| 00:00.09 | streuner_ | we know then, its a kernel thingie or just a config thingie... |
| 00:00.21 | gnarface | good idea |
| 00:00.37 | gnarface | some better testing info would be useful too |
| 00:00.40 | gnarface | hardware details |
| 00:00.43 | gnarface | or did i miss them? |
| 00:00.52 | streuner_ | yes :-/ |
| 00:01.56 | adminewb | strace output: http://paste.debian.net/120598/ |
| 00:02.07 | gnarface | the trick for me with my snd_hda_intel onboard audio device was this line: options snd_hda_intel index=0 model=6stack-dig enable_msi=1 position_fix=1 |
| 00:02.53 | adminewb | looks as if I hit a size limit, but the ending items are intact (dropped from the start to meet size limit, it seems) |
| 00:02.53 | boudiccas | i've just installed the chromium browser on squeeze to try out, but when i put 'chromium' on the command line it says 'command not found' . what must i put in to get it running please? |
| 00:03.05 | *** join/#debian AcTiVaTe (~activate@d594eeda.static.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 00:03.05 | streuner_ | gnarface: i have an Intel chipset too, the bug came after .19 or so, it wasnt fixed then |
| 00:03.06 | stew | boudiccas: iirc, chromium-browser |
| 00:03.29 | stew | adminewb: does "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq" succeed on the command line? |
| 00:03.31 | *** join/#debian assurbanipal (~quassel@adsl-25.109.242.61.tellas.gr) |
| 00:03.36 | streuner_ | gnarface: the only soundsystem which works is OSS4 |
| 00:03.36 | gnarface | streuner_: like i said i'm on .39 and not having any trouble :-/ |
| 00:03.49 | boudiccas | stew; same thing, command not found :( |
| 00:03.56 | stew | boudiccas: dpkg -S packagename | grep bin |
| 00:04.08 | adminewb | stew do I need to be root? |
| 00:04.09 | streuner_ | gnarface: <blackshirt1> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) |
| 00:04.12 | gnarface | streuner_: openal, alsa pulse and oss all work for me, but i disable pulse and oss cause pulse sucks and alsa handles oss fine |
| 00:04.12 | stew | adminewb: no |
| 00:04.15 | *** join/#debian Zambezi (Zulu@80.67.9.2) |
| 00:04.29 | gnarface | streuner_: question: how many jacks does it have? |
| 00:04.36 | gnarface | streuner_: do you know? |
| 00:04.41 | streuner_ | gnarface: no idea |
| 00:04.57 | *** join/#debian ix (kvamtroe@cassarossa.samfundet.no) |
| 00:04.57 | *** join/#debian ix (kvamtroe@unaffiliated/ix) |
| 00:04.57 | adminewb | stew no the shell locks up doing that, ctrl-Z doesn't work either |
| 00:05.38 | stew | adminewb: so there is your problem, which sounds like a kernel problem. i assume "lsmod | grep cpufreq" returns matches? |
| 00:05.45 | stew | adminewb: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 00:05.46 | *** join/#debian ymasory (~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 00:06.37 | adminewb | uname -r : 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 00:06.57 | adminewb | cpufreq_powersave 902 0 |
| 00:06.58 | *** join/#debian Hoxzer (haikion@amadeus.cc.tut.fi) |
| 00:07.14 | adminewb | cpufreq_stats 2659 0 |
| 00:07.27 | adminewb | cpufreq_conservative 5162 0 |
| 00:07.36 | boudiccas | stew; i put into the CL ...... dpkg -S chromium-browser | grep bin ....... but i dont get any response, it runs but gives me no feedback |
| 00:07.43 | adminewb | cpufreq_userspace 1992 0 |
| 00:09.27 | adminewb | would that be an unusual set of cpu modules? |
| 00:09.54 | *** join/#debian webad_13 (~milos@host189-212-static.40-85-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 00:10.01 | *** join/#debian GJdan (~GJdan@S0106001346a72861.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 00:10.18 | *** join/#debian npoektop (~npoektop@85.202.112.90) |
| 00:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1069] by debhelper |
| 00:12.00 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:12.34 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.12 | *** join/#debian Qtronix (~qtronix@252.84-49-116.nextgentel.com) |
| 00:13.23 | *** join/#debian Moskito (~Moskito@77-57-185-193.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 00:14.02 | adminewb | come to think of it, in dmesg output for boot activity, there's what looks like a crash dump shortly after an inventory of kernel modules; ignored it before because the system seems to run well enough in spite of it |
| 00:14.08 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 00:14.39 | danilom | hi, how can i change the encoding of the system? i need to change it to LATIN1 |
| 00:14.55 | streuner_ | gnarface: the solution of using the old kernel would answer everything, and well, i think so too, its prolly something really trivial, mobo issues or such |
| 00:15.08 | *** join/#debian emerald-dragon (~emerald_d@ip65-47-30-46.z30-47-65.customer.algx.net) |
| 00:15.10 | nevyn | danilom: dpkg-reconfigure locales I think? |
| 00:15.34 | *** part/#debian emerald-dragon (~emerald_d@ip65-47-30-46.z30-47-65.customer.algx.net) |
| 00:15.35 | danilom | nevyn, ok im going to try |
| 00:15.50 | *** join/#debian rettub (~amar@unaffiliated/rettub) |
| 00:16.01 | gnarface | boudiccas: try "apt-cache search ^chromium-browser" instead; dpkg only searches through the list of already installed stuff |
| 00:16.07 | danilom | is there other way? |
| 00:16.11 | Moskito | anybody an idea why aes ni wouldn't be listed in /proc/cpuinfo? the CPU is a 1220L which, according to intel has aes ni, the distri is squeeze with all packages up to date... |
| 00:16.18 | streuner_ | gnarface: but aplay should work, so its more likely a user issue |
| 00:16.20 | danilom | is to create a db in latin1 |
| 00:16.21 | *** join/#debian phb (~phb@c80-216-217-192.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 00:16.28 | nevyn | danilom: oh. for a database. |
| 00:16.38 | nevyn | danilom: with mysql or postgres? |
| 00:16.41 | streuner_ | gnarface: as root... |
| 00:17.27 | gnarface | streuner_: yea alsa needs some better documentation. that checklist dpkg has doesn't cover everything |
| 00:17.46 | boudiccas | gnarface; "apt-cache search ^chromium-browser" ....... bash: apt-cache search ^chromium-browser: command not found ........ which seems odd as i just installed it |
| 00:18.03 | *** join/#debian matt8686 (~martin@21.40.235.80.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 00:18.05 | adminewb | dmesg output of potential concern: http://paste.debian.net/120600/ |
| 00:18.38 | *** join/#debian wissem (~wissem@unaffiliated/wissem) |
| 00:19.21 | danilom | nevyn, is for postgresql |
| 00:19.53 | streuner_ | gnarface: there is a easy solution, just download OSS4 of opensound and use that |
| 00:19.57 | *** join/#debian timo (thietanen@kapsi.fi) |
| 00:20.00 | adminewb | stew no longer here? |
| 00:20.16 | boudiccas | adminewb; i guess he's awfk |
| 00:20.21 | boudiccas | afk |
| 00:20.28 | *** join/#debian fims (~freenode@h1851396.stratoserver.net) |
| 00:20.30 | streuner_ | gnarface: if its not working its a cable/mobo/or whatever issue |
| 00:20.32 | danilom | when i tryied to create a db with LATIN1, posgresql says "system is not LATIN1" an dont crete |
| 00:21.01 | gnarface | danilom: so create it with utf-8 and be happy? |
| 00:21.02 | *** join/#debian bzed_ (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) |
| 00:21.19 | *** join/#debian Myztik (~Myztik@80-195.anonymous.at.anonine.com) |
| 00:21.26 | nevyn | danilom: system is utf-8 but postgres should allow you to make a latin1 db on a utf-8 system |
| 00:21.29 | *** join/#debian satellit_ (~satellit@2002:d064:8d43:0:219:d1ff:fe73:14e6) |
| 00:21.43 | danilom | gnarface, i need it in LATIN1 |
| 00:21.43 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~mezgani@2001:470:9b36:1::2) |
| 00:22.13 | boudiccas | gnarface; "apt-cache search ^chromium-browser" ....... bash: apt-cache search ^chromium-browser: command not found ........ which seems odd as i just installed it |
| 00:23.39 | *** part/#debian kalyplato (~kalyplato@unaffiliated/kalyplato) |
| 00:25.12 | dougvann | just read this and wanted to get opinions on it "The web [at least the open source side of it] has all but standardized on Debian or Ubuntu" |
| 00:25.21 | streuner_ | amset:/tmp# apt-cache search chromium-browser |
| 00:25.21 | streuner_ | chromium-browser - Chromium browser - transitional dummy package |
| 00:25.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | dougvann: to that i say o.0 |
| 00:25.53 | *** join/#debian p0g0_ (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 00:26.05 | dougvann | wow Kamping_Kaiser that was too cryptic for me.. ;-) |
| 00:26.44 | nevyn | dougvann: fedora exists. |
| 00:26.50 | dougvann | ahh raising an eyebrow |
| 00:26.53 | jhutchins_lt | dougvann: I would classify that as whishful thinking. Enterprizes use RH or SuSE. |
| 00:27.00 | adminewb | boudiccas, my chrome install seems to be from another package so it will differ, but my menu setting has: command="/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome" |
| 00:27.06 | nevyn | jhutchins_lt++ |
| 00:27.10 | jhutchins_lt | dougvann: It is a best-practices standard. |
| 00:27.32 | dougvann | yah. i wondered if the author was off their rocker |
| 00:27.33 | nevyn | hates best-practice it usually means lowest common denominator. |
| 00:27.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: don't run the command in "" |
| 00:27.50 | jhutchins_lt | I worked for a company that supplied some large companies, and we standardized on CentOS so we could track RHEL compatibility. |
| 00:27.52 | nevyn | and copes badly with paradigm shifts. (like puppet) |
| 00:28.07 | *** join/#debian Raphaelt (~raphaelt@217.195.19.241) |
| 00:28.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: what are you trying to find out? |
| 00:28.27 | jhutchins_lt | IBM is a major manufacturer of POS systems, and their systems come with a SuSE system. |
| 00:28.32 | stew | judd: file /usr/bin/chromium-broswer |
| 00:28.36 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 00:28.43 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 00:28.43 | streuner_ | hm |
| 00:28.48 | stew | uhh |
| 00:28.52 | streuner_ | typo |
| 00:29.03 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; i'm trying to gte chromium running to test it out |
| 00:29.19 | stew | boudiccas: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/i386/chromium-browser/filelist its /usr/bin/chromium-browser |
| 00:29.28 | streuner_ | judd, file /usr/bin/chromium-browser |
| 00:29.29 | stew | adminewb: a debian package would not touch /opt |
| 00:29.31 | judd | /usr/bin/chromium-browser in squeeze/i386: chromium-browser: usr/bin/chromium-browser |
| 00:29.48 | stew | boudiccas: what version of chromium-browser do you have installed? |
| 00:30.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: you need to use chromium-browser, not chromium |
| 00:30.44 | *** join/#debian pokkerface (~carlos@r190-133-24-126.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 00:30.50 | streuner_ | what's the difference? |
| 00:31.03 | stew | he's either not using the squeeze package or he deleted stuff |
| 00:31.07 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@208-179-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 00:31.08 | adminewb | stew I think I mentioned this .deb file came from google not debian |
| 00:31.18 | boudiccas | stew; who is 'he'? |
| 00:31.26 | stew | boudiccas: you |
| 00:31.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | streuner_: between? |
| 00:31.38 | boudiccas | stew; i'm not a 'he', i'm female |
| 00:31.44 | stew | boudiccas: pardon me |
| 00:31.52 | streuner_ | Kamping_Kaiser: chromium and chromium-browser |
| 00:32.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | streuner_: one is a game, (chromium-bsu) and one a web browser (chromium) |
| 00:32.19 | npoektop | hi! i configured exim to send mail via gmail: http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 but it now doesn't send mail to local users. How to fix it? |
| 00:32.29 | boudiccas | stew; i use the version of chromium-browser that is in the squeeze repos, i've just installed it |
| 00:32.32 | streuner_ | boudiccas: we just think that most in a technical channel are male |
| 00:32.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | streuner_: chromium package is a transitional package in squeeze |
| 00:32.58 | stew | boudiccas: then you must have deleted /usr/bin/chromium-browser ; i'd recommend reinstalling the chromium-browser package |
| 00:33.07 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: Props for the nic. |
| 00:33.08 | boudiccas | streuner_; you cant make that assumption, especially when my nick is female too |
| 00:33.39 | streuner_ | boudiccas: iam not english native, so please have some unterstanding for me |
| 00:33.40 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: However, a moderately large percentage of "female" nics are guys too, so... |
| 00:33.46 | boudiccas | stew; i've just reinstalled chromium-browser but its still not running from the CL |
| 00:33.46 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: Welcome aboard. |
| 00:34.07 | boudiccas | jhutchins; thank you :) |
| 00:34.08 | stew | boudiccas: do you get an error when you run "/usr/bin/chromium-browser"? |
| 00:35.00 | boudiccas | stew; /usr/bin/chromium-browser........bash: /usr/bin/chromium-browser: No such file or directory |
| 00:35.13 | adminewb | stew, you may see something germane to my chrome process going astray, in this dmesg clip: http://paste.debian.net/120600/ |
| 00:35.21 | stew | boudiccas: then you either deleted that file, or you didn't install the squeeze version. what version is currently installed? |
| 00:35.50 | boudiccas | how can i found out if i cant run it please? i cant --version it |
| 00:35.59 | streuner_ | according to judd, chromium-browser is only in stable available |
| 00:36.07 | *** join/#debian tazle (~tazle@kapsi.fi) |
| 00:36.08 | stew | boudiccas: dpkg -l packagename |
| 00:38.14 | boudiccas | stew; right, no version available as chromium-browser cant be found. so i'm installing it now, and thought that it would be pulled in when i installed chromium |
| 00:38.27 | boudiccas | sorry for the noise |
| 00:38.32 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 00:38.44 | streuner_ | boudiccas: no need to say sorry |
| 00:39.37 | stew | its odd that "dpkg -S chromium-browser | grep bin" didn't give an error then |
| 00:39.51 | stew | and that reinstalling it didn't work |
| 00:40.16 | *** join/#debian arsenm (~Matt@146-115-98-16.c3-0.brl-ubr1.sbo-brl.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 00:40.43 | *** join/#debian Keefe (~keefe@pool-96-229-92-117.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:41.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1058] by debhelper |
| 00:41.06 | adminewb | stew, so there may be something germane to my chrome process going astray, in this boot time dmesg clip: http://paste.debian.net/120600/ |
| 00:41.37 | *** join/#debian row (~row@87-194-37-143.bethere.co.uk) |
| 00:42.09 | ujjain | Is tehre software better than Nagios for monitoring? |
| 00:42.09 | boudiccas | stew chromium-browser wasnt installed at all until i tried to find its version number, and realised that it wasnt installed |
| 00:42.10 | stew | adminewb: yes, there is something wrong with cpufreq, which isn't a suprise, after seeing the chromium problem |
| 00:42.18 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.191.157) |
| 00:43.34 | *** join/#debian Tramp (~mt@xdsl-188-154-217-113.adslplus.ch) |
| 00:43.39 | stew | ujjain: icinga is a fork of nagios. they forked because they were tired of waiting for patches to be merged. so its very much like nagios, but so far with some minor improvement |
| 00:43.42 | stew | s |
| 00:43.57 | stew | ujjain: and there is munin for graphing with some reporting ability |
| 00:44.18 | ujjain | stew: Yes, I looked at op5, observium, stew, but roles differ |
| 00:44.24 | *** join/#debian Tramp (~mt@46-127-15-123.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 00:44.27 | ujjain | Can you recommend icinga over nagios possiby with op5? |
| 00:44.31 | *** join/#debian asias (~asias@lifeatwarp10.com) |
| 00:45.14 | *** join/#debian NMZ (~NMZ@2001:6f8:3bf::101) |
| 00:45.21 | adminewb | stew, should I be posting a bug report to debian or something? |
| 00:45.27 | *** join/#debian canaria (~ircap@21.Red-88-5-155.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:45.48 | *** join/#debian Monotoko (~Monotoko@unaffiliated/monotoko) |
| 00:45.52 | adminewb | or upstream |
| 00:45.55 | *** part/#debian canaria (~ircap@21.Red-88-5-155.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:46.04 | *** join/#debian pnukeid (~pnukeid@110.138.237.198) |
| 00:47.20 | *** part/#debian dspace (~dspace@74-131-161-158.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 00:48.43 | pokkerface | openproj, is a rpm, what should i do' |
| 00:49.08 | streuner_ | shoot yourself? :-) |
| 00:49.12 | Monotoko | hey guys...trying to install postfix and I can send mail locally, but I keep getting "relay access denied" if I try to send to anywhere else |
| 00:49.22 | Monotoko | any ideas? |
| 00:49.24 | pokkerface | hehe |
| 00:49.26 | streuner_ | pokkerface: find a solution for debian? |
| 00:49.32 | *** join/#debian epsilon (~one@p5DDB0FDE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:49.37 | *** join/#debian asias_ (~asias@lifeatwarp10.com) |
| 00:49.50 | streuner_ | pokkerface: there is alien, but just pray then |
| 00:49.53 | *** join/#debian _jesse_ (~jesse@pool-74-111-186-76.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:50.11 | *** join/#debian MeatBalls (~MeatBalls@unaffiliated/meatballs) |
| 00:50.11 | pokkerface | i have to do a perth diagram fast for university |
| 00:51.00 | streuner_ | maybe if you explain your problem exactly somebody knows how to solve it in Debian... |
| 00:51.23 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@c-66-177-163-8.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 00:51.23 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@fsf/member/pipeep) |
| 00:51.27 | stew | ujjain: sure. i don't know what op5 is |
| 00:51.44 | stew | adminewb: its much more likely to be a hardware problem. you might try just blacklisting the module |
| 00:51.53 | *** join/#debian ryuguns (~Mervyn@c-66-176-170-31.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 00:52.06 | ryuguns | Hello |
| 00:52.16 | MeatBalls | Hey |
| 00:52.46 | abrotman | Monotoko: www.postfix.org has great docs |
| 00:52.58 | adminewb | stew, without that module, won't certain functions of CPU control be missing? is that just to resolve more troubleshooting data points? |
| 00:53.05 | streuner_ | pokkerface: alien just works in some cases, in some other not... |
| 00:53.06 | *** join/#debian rsr (~rsr@187.15.144.61) |
| 00:53.12 | MeatBalls | Guys, any idea why PyPanel isnt in the repos? |
| 00:53.13 | *** join/#debian allan8904 (~allan@unaffiliated/allan8904) |
| 00:53.27 | *** part/#debian DasEi (~m@gtng-4db05350.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 00:53.29 | pokkerface | streuner_: ok i ll try it |
| 00:53.32 | stew | adminewb: your cpu would never slow down, it would always be running at its maximum design frequency |
| 00:53.43 | streuner_ | pokkerface: you are able to install via source too.... |
| 00:53.47 | Monotoko | abrotman, I have it open and that's how I got this far...I'm just stuck now... |
| 00:54.15 | ryuguns | I'm an Ubuntu/Windows user... |
| 00:54.17 | stew | Monotoko: probably becuase nobody has volunteered to package it. you might check wnpp: /msg dpkg wnpp |
| 00:54.18 | adminewb | if it's a hardware problem, the CPU itself or mainboard northbridge would be implicated, I'd think |
| 00:54.20 | pokkerface | first option alien 2nd option sources third option suicide |
| 00:54.28 | *** join/#debian Pavel (~pavel@pool-173-75-5-189.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:54.36 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@59.176.35.208) |
| 00:54.39 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 00:55.00 | *** join/#debian xiangfu (~user@fidelio.qi-hardware.com) |
| 00:55.04 | *** join/#debian thinkster (~paq@d24-36-11-96.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 00:55.05 | thinkster | hi |
| 00:55.08 | streuner_ | pokkerface: lol |
| 00:55.10 | *** join/#debian x23 (1000@123-2-176-73.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) |
| 00:55.26 | *** join/#debian mashihabong (~mashihabo@74.198.87.72) |
| 00:55.33 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~smaug9@12.173.132.2) |
| 00:55.37 | thinkster | I was wondering, if I want to watch movie on laptop that is located on the network on my desktop, is it possible? |
| 00:56.04 | *** join/#debian _sss_1 (~suguru@w0109-49-133-131-143.uqwimax.jp) |
| 00:56.32 | thinkster | Never mind |
| 00:56.50 | ryuguns | ... |
| 00:56.59 | ryuguns | You figured it out? |
| 00:57.23 | *** join/#debian TBCOOL (~tb@c-3c3671d5.09-42-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 00:57.32 | streuner_ | pokkerface: before i go to hell, i would think about using something else, other than Debian :-P |
| 00:57.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | ryuguns: fwiw, #ubuntu for ubuntu questions, ##windows for windows questions |
| 00:57.41 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 00:57.41 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 00:57.57 | *** part/#debian MeatBalls (~MeatBalls@unaffiliated/meatballs) |
| 00:58.08 | ryuguns | I was asking, should I ever switch to debian? |
| 00:58.22 | streuner_ | ryuguns: well, /msg dpkg why Debian |
| 00:58.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell ryuguns about why debian |
| 00:58.23 | *** join/#debian Bhavicp (Alex@124-197-12-7.callplus.net.nz) |
| 00:58.27 | streuner_ | hm |
| 00:58.48 | ryuguns | Okay |
| 00:58.49 | ryuguns | brb |
| 00:58.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | looks like that factoid has overflowed |
| 00:58.57 | adminewb | I'd take your word then stew, that the module is worth a blacklist |
| 00:59.17 | streuner_ | Kamping_Kaiser: in other words, nobody read it? ;-) |
| 00:59.26 | *** join/#debian bliket (48c0ad75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.192.173.117) |
| 00:59.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | well... not exactly ;) |
| 00:59.48 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 00:59.49 | *** join/#debian xromiuz (~xN@bas1-toronto06-2925210316.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 01:00.29 | bliket | hello, I have a machine that downloads an sh startup script. the only problem is that 50% of the time it works and the other 50% of the time it hasnt got an ip address from the server. is there any way to make it wait to get a connection before contiuing my bash script? |
| 01:00.48 | bliket | sleep 5 should work |
| 01:00.49 | bliket | right? |
| 01:00.52 | bliket | "sleep 5" |
| 01:00.56 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@89.146.180.168) |
| 01:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1072] by debhelper |
| 01:01.02 | *** join/#debian Cibort (~Cibort@unaffiliated/cibort) |
| 01:01.03 | stew | bliket: run it from a post-up line in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:01.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | put it in an init script which waits on networking (should work?) |
| 01:01.39 | bliket | it says |
| 01:01.39 | bliket | auto lo iface lo inet loopback |
| 01:01.56 | bliket | so i just say after it "wget http://somescript.sh/" |
| 01:01.58 | bliket | right? |
| 01:02.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | no. man 5 interfaces, look for post-up |
| 01:02.27 | bliket | .. |
| 01:02.36 | stew | bliket: no, is that they only interface defined in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 01:02.39 | bliket | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.42 | stew | bliket: are you using network-manager or something? |
| 01:02.49 | bliket | i think so |
| 01:02.54 | stew | then nevermind |
| 01:02.59 | *** join/#debian omeddragon (~omeddrago@pool-71-178-234-18.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:02.59 | bliket | it just says "you are not connected to eth0" |
| 01:03.10 | bliket | now* |
| 01:04.07 | *** join/#debian Stupendoussteve (~Stevie@pdpc/supporter/student/stupendoussteve) |
| 01:04.50 | pokkerface | streuner_: alien worked ajajajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajaja |
| 01:05.08 | streuner_ | pokkerface: why not just have luck today :-) |
| 01:06.07 | streuner_ | keep in mind, the packagename says everything :-) |
| 01:06.58 | *** join/#debian olol85 (~olol85@S0106687f746277fb.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 01:07.11 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 01:07.11 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 01:07.37 | streuner_ | but that are the prons of Debian, always have a solution (thanks to joeyh) :-) |
| 01:08.03 | bliket | lets see if sleep 10 will work |
| 01:10.39 | *** join/#debian Nematocyst (~eric@c-68-35-106-79.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 01:10.57 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 01:11.06 | *** join/#debian Yasir^ (~simon@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fffcc000-50.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 01:11.49 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 01:11.50 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 01:11.55 | streuner_ | pokkerface: keep in mind, if that package doesnt work well, there is always the option for just to compile it from source |
| 01:12.21 | *** join/#debian sawy_ooonkkk (~g@pool-74-111-197-135.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:12.31 | *** join/#debian gusto (~gusto@p4FFE725B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:12.38 | sawy_ooonkkk | u guys know that since www.archlinux.org exists debian is pretty much obsolete right? |
| 01:12.44 | sawy_ooonkkk | might as well join arch project |
| 01:12.50 | sawy_ooonkkk | delte your git |
| 01:13.04 | streuner_ | heh |
| 01:13.06 | stew | sawy_ooonkkk: thanks, but lets just keep this channel on-topic |
| 01:13.16 | *** part/#debian ryuguns (~Mervyn@c-66-176-170-31.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 01:13.24 | sawy_ooonkkk | just trying to help |
| 01:13.26 | sawy_ooonkkk | ;) |
| 01:13.28 | streuner_ | in other words, troll somewhere else |
| 01:13.30 | sawy_ooonkkk | any forth programmers in here? |
| 01:13.46 | sawy_ooonkkk | I think stallman should implement the hurd in forth |
| 01:13.57 | stew | sawy_ooonkkk: lets stick to debian end-user support please. for general chit-chat you can try #debian-offtopic or ##defocus |
| 01:14.01 | sawy_ooonkkk | can debian use the hurd not linux by now? |
| 01:14.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | i'm bored of this troll already |
| 01:14.14 | streuner_ | iam too |
| 01:14.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | bannaowpls? |
| 01:14.35 | *** join/#debian totem (~mplayer@182.6.236.192) |
| 01:14.39 | *** join/#debian totem (~mplayer@unaffiliated/totem) |
| 01:14.42 | slaeshjag | I think it's cute, can I keep it as a pet? |
| 01:15.01 | sawy_ooonkkk | I knew debian has furries |
| 01:15.08 | Nematocyst | I have installed Debian to a sheevaplug in 2 ways. a USB thumb drive, and to internal flash. when running from the thumb drive, load averages go to 0 very fast, but when the root fs is on internal flash, the load never drops below 0.15. what's going on? |
| 01:15.40 | gnarface | Nematocyst: is the internal flash nand? |
| 01:15.44 | Nematocyst | yes |
| 01:15.53 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (~master_of@p57B5536E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:16.02 | *** join/#debian XSoul (~XRule@89.253.189.93) |
| 01:16.10 | *** part/#debian ChrisW (~Chris_W@cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net) |
| 01:16.13 | *** join/#debian omeddragon (~omeddrago@pool-71-178-234-18.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:16.24 | gnarface | Nematocyst: i'm just guessing but that might have something to do with it. nand is fundamentally different from the type of flash used for sd cards and usb thumb drives in some way, but i'm not clear on what |
| 01:16.55 | swayy_ooonkk | did anyone here ever have to upload a file TO a web server? |
| 01:16.58 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (~suguru@w0109-49-133-131-143.uqwimax.jp) |
| 01:17.00 | swayy_ooonkk | or know how its done? |
| 01:17.01 | slaeshjag | gnarface: SD cards and USB thumb drives are usually NAND too :P |
| 01:17.08 | swayy_ooonkk | in a cron scirptable way |
| 01:17.08 | *** mode/#debian [+o stew] by ChanServ |
| 01:17.08 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@pool-74-111-197-135.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] by stew |
| 01:17.09 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 01:17.14 | gnarface | Nematocyst: i've been thinking of getting one of those... how do they do as private web/email servers? how is the power consumption? |
| 01:17.36 | nevyn | swayy_ooonkk: the usual mechinism is via a http post of the file. |
| 01:18.27 | Nematocyst | gnarface, well. for light tasks, i prefer a Dockstar, actually. mostly because the sheevaplug power supply went out on me. it's a common problem. but in general the devices are great for LAMP and email |
| 01:18.53 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 01:18.53 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 01:19.39 | gnarface | huh |
| 01:19.41 | gnarface | ok noted |
| 01:19.53 | Nematocyst | gnarface, here's a photo of my 3 devices in operation: http://nematocyst.dyndns.org the 3 boxes on the drawer are 2 dockstars and 1 sheevaplug |
| 01:19.55 | juso | would mkfs.vfat make a fat32 filesystem? |
| 01:20.03 | Nematocyst | one of the dockstars is running that page |
| 01:20.15 | streuner_ | juso: it makes a vfat FS |
| 01:20.44 | streuner_ | juso: but basically its the same... |
| 01:20.47 | juso | then how can I make it fat32? or.. |
| 01:20.49 | juso | ok cool |
| 01:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1064] by debhelper |
| 01:21.25 | streuner_ | juso: but why, your filesystem is limited to 4 GB (file) then? |
| 01:21.43 | *** join/#debian tenthirteen (~ten13@c-68-52-151-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 01:21.43 | *** join/#debian tenthirteen (~ten13@unaffiliated/tenthirteen) |
| 01:21.47 | gnarface | juso: yes, you want to use mkfs.vfat if you want to make a fat32 filesystem |
| 01:21.51 | streuner_ | juso: any Linux FS is better or just NTFS |
| 01:21.55 | *** part/#debian swayy_ooonkk (~g@pool-74-111-197-135.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:22.04 | gnarface | juso: but yes you should probably reconsider |
| 01:22.21 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 01:22.21 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 01:22.26 | gnarface | Nematocyst: i'm jealous. this dockstar? http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/network_storage/freeagent_dockstar/ |
| 01:22.29 | *** join/#debian frotz47 (~matthew@cpe-74-75-53-107.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 01:22.35 | gnarface | Nematocyst: does it run debian? |
| 01:22.40 | boudiccas | if you make a ntfs/fat32 filesystems dont they need to be defragged? |
| 01:23.07 | streuner_ | boudiccas: well, in Linux there is no tool to defrag for NTFS... |
| 01:23.08 | *** join/#debian ddan (~iacku@host230-237-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 01:23.10 | Nematocyst | yep. that's it. if you do a search of dockstar debian, you will find tons of info how to run debian on it |
| 01:23.20 | *** join/#debian antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) |
| 01:23.22 | streuner_ | boudiccas: you need windows to do so... |
| 01:23.34 | boudiccas | streuner_; yes i know, so you'd have to have access to MS windows |
| 01:23.39 | abrotman | there used to be tools to defrag fat on linux ... probably long dead now |
| 01:23.49 | streuner_ | boudiccas: yes |
| 01:23.52 | Nematocyst | the only thing to keep in mind is a sheevaplug has 512MB ram and 512MB NAND. the dockstar has 128MB ram and 256 NAND |
| 01:24.26 | Nematocyst | otherwise they are quite similar. the dockstar has 3 USB ports though, and an external power supply. making it more reliable |
| 01:24.29 | streuner_ | boudiccas: but in most cases it just a USB stick or such, so its not that important... |
| 01:25.06 | gnarface | if you opened up a sheevaplug could you attach it to an external power supply and disconnect the burnt out one? |
| 01:25.33 | *** join/#debian anniex (~anniexx@41.155.2.102) |
| 01:25.53 | boudiccas | i recently bought a 500gig usb external drive, formatted ntfs, so i immediately formatted it ext3 before i used it |
| 01:25.59 | gnarface | i really want to run debian on a sheevaplug |
| 01:26.01 | Nematocyst | gnarface, if i had the knowhow, yes. i just ordered an new supply from globalscale. it arrived today which is why i'm messing with installing Debian to its NAND |
| 01:27.01 | Nematocyst | anyway, it appears to work fine. just the load averages are noticibly higher when running from NAND than from a flash drive. seems weird to me |
| 01:27.05 | *** part/#debian anniex (~anniexx@41.155.2.102) |
| 01:27.08 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi_ (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 01:27.16 | *** join/#debian newl (~newl@97.75.165.156) |
| 01:27.47 | *** join/#debian Mosquito (~Moskito@77-57-185-193.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 01:28.19 | *** join/#debian kingsley (~kingsley@71-37-11-98.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 01:28.23 | gnarface | Nematocyst: that is strange and unexpected to me. it makes me second guess whether or not to empty out the NAND on my WIZ |
| 01:28.26 | *** join/#debian wols_ (~klingens@p5B0DAAB8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:28.37 | *** join/#debian Bop_ (~Vrooomm@bl10-180-57.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 01:28.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | Nematocyst: sorry i wasn't paying attention, but what fs do you have on nand? |
| 01:29.26 | Nematocyst | gnarface, i don't understand what's happening. but it isn't unexpected-- when i first got the sheevaplug, it shipped with ubuntu 8.04 i think. same issue. i had thought Ubuntu was the culprit, but i think it was running the root fs from NAND |
| 01:30.09 | Nematocyst | Kamping_Kaiser, UBIFS |
| 01:30.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | Nematocyst: hm, i'm not familiar with that one |
| 01:31.16 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 01:31.35 | newl | is it a parasitic fs? |
| 01:32.00 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 01:32.03 | slaeshjag | Nematocyst: Hmm... We use UBIFS on the OpenPandora without high load avrages |
| 01:32.24 | Nematocyst | it's a compressed fs, designed (but not necessarily intended) to run on flash. it keeps stuff moving around to avoid burning out a location |
| 01:32.38 | newl | hence the word parasitic |
| 01:32.41 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (~suguru@w0109-49-133-131-143.uqwimax.jp) |
| 01:33.00 | *** join/#debian ailo (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 01:33.11 | newl | it only cares for itself and not the efficient running of the os |
| 01:33.20 | Nematocyst | i don't think the fs is the problem. had similar problem when it was jffs |
| 01:33.40 | Nematocyst | of course that has similar philosophy |
| 01:33.42 | Mosquito | is there any explanation for aes ni not being listed in /proc/cpuinfo other than it being a hardware issue (processor/mainboard/...)? |
| 01:34.43 | *** join/#debian gjs (~gjs@GSWoT/Member/gjs) |
| 01:35.20 | Nematocyst | i suspect, though, that if I install to a USB flash drive, using the same fs, the problem will go away. i guess i'd have to do that to be sure |
| 01:35.28 | newl | use ntfs |
| 01:35.36 | *** part/#debian adminewb (~local@67-220-12-225.usiwireless.com) |
| 01:36.12 | Nematocyst | ?? |
| 01:36.39 | newl | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.49 | streuner_ | Nematocyst: please use a whole sentence, most of us cannot read your mind... |
| 01:36.51 | *** join/#debian chokesmaster (~chokesmas@bas7-sherbrooke40-2925312439.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 01:37.22 | abrotman | streuner_ definitely can't :) |
| 01:38.04 | stew | i can read his mind, it was "what kind of recommendation is ntfs as a filesystem for installing linux on?" |
| 01:38.16 | Nematocyst | exactly |
| 01:38.42 | Nematocyst | i was just typing something basically what stew said :) |
| 01:42.08 | *** join/#debian rsr_ (~rsr@187.15.177.11) |
| 01:42.14 | *** join/#debian jaymeproni (~jayme@187.56.21.67) |
| 01:42.22 | *** join/#debian crypted (~doobie@ip72-198-74-111.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 01:43.08 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 01:44.17 | gnarface | Nematocyst: there is a debian-arm channel around here somewhere i think. they might be more helpful in there |
| 01:44.37 | gnarface | !arm |
| 01:44.37 | dpkg | Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a processor architecture. The Debian arm port was deprecated at Debian 5.0 with official support dropped at Debian 6.0, ask me about <armel> for the replacement port. http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ For help with Debian on ARM systems, join #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. |
| 01:44.47 | *** join/#debian neuronic (~neuronic@xdsl-87-79-155-143.netcologne.de) |
| 01:44.56 | gnarface | !armel |
| 01:44.56 | dpkg | armel is the Debian <ARM> EABI port, first released with <lenny>. http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. |
| 01:45.03 | *** join/#debian lanthan (~ze@46.253.54.75) |
| 01:45.06 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-24-7-1-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:46.58 | Nematocyst | yeah, thanks. not sure what i want to do with the box yet. after it crashed, the redundant server took over all the tasks, so i don't really need it atm. it's just inconvenient to run from USB because the sheevaplug has just one port. (newer sheevaplugs do not have that issue, and their PS is superior) |
| 01:47.17 | newl | Nematocyst: use it for a swap drive ;) |
| 01:47.53 | *** join/#debian lanthan (~ze@46.253.54.75) |
| 01:49.37 | *** join/#debian celord (~celord@201.193.82.8) |
| 01:51.05 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 01:53.00 | boudiccas | is anybody using the machine-update script from the linux counter please? i'm trying to but the emails that it sends are going out from 'boztu@localhost.localhost' instead of 'boudiccas@talktalk.com' where do i change the email address please? |
| 01:53.08 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (~suguru@w0109-49-133-131-143.uqwimax.jp) |
| 01:53.38 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 01:54.41 | *** join/#debian jonesst1 (~jonesst1@130.195.245.249) |
| 01:55.13 | gnarface | boudiccas: probably /etc/hosts ? |
| 01:55.35 | boudiccas | gnarface; thanks, i'll have a look there |
| 01:55.53 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@175.139.62.69) |
| 01:56.05 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@187.132.134.11) |
| 01:58.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: have you configured exim since installing the machine? |
| 01:58.34 | *** join/#debian MadViking (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe8efb00-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 01:59.19 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; no, i havent touched it as i know nowt about it :) |
| 01:59.35 | gnarface | oh you definitely need to do that |
| 01:59.51 | gnarface | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config i believe |
| 02:00.04 | *** join/#debian killown (~geek@unaffiliated/killown) |
| 02:00.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: thats your problem then :) |
| 02:00.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: seems gnarface beat me to the punchline, so there you go |
| 02:00.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: exim4-config |
| 02:00.39 | dpkg | Kamping_Kaiser: are you using Windows? |
| 02:00.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: i know you know this |
| 02:00.46 | dpkg | Kamping_Kaiser: i don't know |
| 02:00.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: configure exim |
| 02:00.52 | dpkg | Kamping_Kaiser: wish i knew |
| 02:00.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | :@ |
| 02:01.09 | streuner_ | dpkg, listvals exim4-config |
| 02:01.11 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'exim4-config' by value (4): configure exim #del# ;; cmd: drec (.*?) ;; exim boot stall ;; exim4 reconfigure. |
| 02:01.24 | gnarface | boudiccas: if you haven't even done that yet you should also still check your /etc/hosts file though. unless your dns server contains entries for your ip address you at least want to add that to it. |
| 02:01.26 | *** part/#debian newl (~newl@97.75.165.156) |
| 02:02.12 | *** join/#debian m4g (~marcus@p5DD52923.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:02.12 | *** join/#debian m4g (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 02:02.18 | abrotman | streuner_: you know you can msg the bot? |
| 02:02.59 | *** join/#debian imgx64 (~imgx64@188.116.200.55) |
| 02:03.42 | streuner_ | abrotman: /msg the bot via listvals/listkeys is always helpful in order to give a lesson to other people, IMO |
| 02:03.55 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; how do you reclour the background of ..... dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ...... as its got grey text on a dark bkue backgriound and i cant read it! ?? |
| 02:04.02 | boudiccas | recolour |
| 02:04.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: i don't think you can. (tbh i've never thought to do so) |
| 02:05.00 | streuner_ | abrotman: most of us did only learn via dpkg, <foo> in the channel HOW to use dpkg at all... |
| 02:06.46 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 02:07.21 | abrotman | decides streuner_ is drunk ... |
| 02:07.22 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; its totally unreadable and useless for its purpose, there must be some way or some other way? |
| 02:07.50 | dvs | *hiccup* |
| 02:08.10 | boudiccas | i've just tried ...... sudo nano dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ..... but that just seems to open up an empty file |
| 02:08.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: i've never had a problem reading debconf dialougs before (which is what you're looking at), so i've never tried to find alternatives |
| 02:08.42 | dvs | !wayttd boudiccas |
| 02:08.42 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, boudiccas? |
| 02:09.01 | boudiccas | wait one...... |
| 02:09.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | dvs: she is trying to reconfigure exim, and can't read the debconf screens |
| 02:09.29 | boudiccas | 'boztu@localhost.localhost' instead of 'boudiccas@talktalk.com' change the email address please? |
| 02:10.18 | *** join/#debian Jayro (~jarred@142.68.36.184) |
| 02:10.21 | Jayro | hello, I am trying to compile Visual Boy Advance but when i run make i get this http://pastebin.com/ReAa50yA |
| 02:10.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: try dpkg-reconfigure -freadline exim4-config |
| 02:11.16 | abrotman | Jayro: you probably want to ask them why their code doesn't compile |
| 02:11.31 | *** join/#debian HardDisk_WP (~marco@velirat.de) |
| 02:11.31 | *** join/#debian HardDisk_WP (~marco@wikipedia/harddisk) |
| 02:11.52 | Jayro | abrotman, i have compiled it on my other machine, and am just having trouble with this one. |
| 02:12.04 | *** join/#debian Lost_Cau1e (~nick@pool-173-76-8-253.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:12.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: you may also need perl-modules and libterm-readline-gnu-perl installed to use that front end |
| 02:12.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | isn't vba packaged already? |
| 02:13.03 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; thanks, i'll install them. what is 'whiptail' please? its running as root and eating up my cycles |
| 02:13.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: its a dialog frontend |
| 02:13.48 | *** join/#debian Lost_Cau1e (~nick@pool-173-76-8-253.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:14.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: i take it you killed debconf to free up your terminal? it probably left running in the background |
| 02:14.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: install debconf-doc and 'man 7 debconf' if you'd like to know hwere i got the readline suggestion from |
| 02:14.35 | *** join/#debian Lost_Cau1e (~nick@pool-173-76-8-253.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:15.21 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; spot on :) kill it, forget it :) |
| 02:16.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: :) |
| 02:16.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: i'm heading afk for 15 or so. gl with it, i'll check how its going when i return |
| 02:16.49 | *** join/#debian Lost_Cau1e (~nick@pool-173-76-8-253.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:17.33 | boudiccas | k, thanks |
| 02:18.00 | *** join/#debian Lost_Cause (~nick@pool-173-76-8-253.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:19.12 | *** join/#debian Pipo (~clap@modemcable043.168-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:19.14 | Pipo | Hi |
| 02:19.15 | *** part/#debian arsenm (~Matt@146-115-98-16.c3-0.brl-ubr1.sbo-brl.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 02:20.02 | *** join/#debian x7x (~X@90.154.241.134) |
| 02:20.35 | Pipo | I'm creating new users, but when I try to set passwords, I get " User not known to the underlying authentication module". I googled it and it's stuff about LDAP and editing /etc/pam.d. AFAIK this is a standard Debian install. Any idea why I'm dealing with this stuff? |
| 02:21.07 | Pipo | and how to revert to a standard authentication system? I've never used LDAP, this is just a toy server. |
| 02:22.38 | abrotman | add them how? |
| 02:23.03 | *** join/#debian Keefe (~keefe@unaffiliated/keefe) |
| 02:23.07 | Pipo | adduser |
| 02:23.49 | Pipo | as per the debian-administrator site's instructions |
| 02:24.45 | Pipo | I must have a different authentication system going. I wouldn't have installed it knowingly, maybe it was part of something else I got with apt-get. How can I find out what it is? I have nothing running here, no worries about breaking things. |
| 02:25.09 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 02:26.01 | Pipo | ok, finally found more info. It's not LDAP, it's Kerberos (or both?). |
| 02:27.09 | antiwire | ldap is a directory service and kerberos is auth |
| 02:27.35 | Pipo | is there any way to find out why either of them was installed? ie which package got them running on my system? |
| 02:28.02 | Pipo | I certainly didn't install either of them knowingly. It's enterprisey stuff. |
| 02:28.17 | abrotman | you can use pam with kerbreos and ldap |
| 02:28.18 | antiwire | did you install samba 4k? |
| 02:28.21 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 02:29.03 | Pipo | nope. apache2, etckeeper, unattended-upgrades...I think that's it. |
| 02:29.19 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; thanks, i've got it all working properly now and able to send emails. that line ....dpkg-reconfigure -freadline exim4-config .... was extremely good and helped no end :) |
| 02:29.23 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 02:29.24 | *** join/#debian mgalvin (~mgalvin@unaffiliated/mgalvin) |
| 02:29.24 | Pipo | I only use this server for SSH tunneling |
| 02:30.27 | Pipo | Can I safely remove the Kerberos and LDAP packages? I take it they're not used internally by Debian? |
| 02:31.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1057] by debhelper |
| 02:31.14 | abrotman | which kerberos package? |
| 02:33.11 | Pipo | I'll tell you in a sec. What's that command that lets you limit output of another command to one page of text at a time? |
| 02:33.20 | Pipo | I need it for dpkg -l |
| 02:33.24 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 02:33.31 | *** part/#debian x7x (~X@90.154.241.134) |
| 02:33.56 | bliket | less |
| 02:33.57 | dudz_ | Pipo, your talking about less or more |
| 02:34.04 | bliket | less is more |
| 02:34.15 | Justasic | hey i hate to be caption obvious or anything but i cant seem to access the debain iso download links |
| 02:34.35 | *** join/#debian Runeg (~Runeg@cpe-76-173-168-2.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 02:34.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: no problem :) if you want to use readline all the time you can dpkg-reconfigure debconf to set it |
| 02:35.06 | abrotman | Justasic: they're likely preparing 6.0.2 .. which arch do you need? |
| 02:35.25 | Justasic | i just wanted the 6.0 i386 |
| 02:36.04 | abrotman | http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 02:36.22 | Justasic | thank you very much sir |
| 02:36.29 | dudz_ | 6.0.2 :o |
| 02:37.19 | Pipo | damn, how do i do it? Should be "less !dpkg -l" according to the help file. And I can't google for examples because it's a poor keyword. |
| 02:37.29 | abrotman | Pipo: dpkg -l | less |
| 02:37.39 | Pipo | aah, thanks |
| 02:37.48 | dudz_ | pipe not explination mark |
| 02:38.06 | Pipo | abrotman: it's krb5-config |
| 02:38.26 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 02:38.26 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 02:38.26 | Pipo | I really need to learn this stuff. Hopefully this summer with the school break. |
| 02:38.28 | abrotman | you can leave that |
| 02:39.13 | Pipo | I see samba-common. I didn't install that. |
| 02:39.42 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 02:40.04 | *** join/#debian davidrussell (~zurich@68-113-106-89.static.leds.al.charter.com) |
| 02:42.20 | Pipo | to hell with this, I'll just start removing anything ldap in the hopes of restoring the traditional user authentication system. Worst case scenario, system goes down and I reinstall the 2 or 3 packages I do use. |
| 02:42.30 | Pipo | err, reimage the server and reinstall... |
| 02:42.42 | dudz_ | yeah do that |
| 02:42.48 | dudz_ | start from scratch |
| 02:43.01 | dudz_ | your using a copy someone else has been playing with ? |
| 02:43.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | hopes Pipo dosen't admin production servers |
| 02:44.08 | Pipo | dudz: it's a VPS I bought so I could watch Hulu from Canada. Basically an online server. |
| 02:44.20 | *** join/#debian catsup (d@ps38852.dreamhost.com) |
| 02:44.38 | Pipo | but I also used it to spend some time trying cool packages (for a while wanted an SVN server with apache2 frontend and such) |
| 02:44.50 | Pipo | nothing that could've caused this authentication mess though |
| 02:46.34 | *** join/#debian grappr (~grappr@strong.century21apartments.com) |
| 02:47.12 | Pipo | What is the | doing when you told me to do "dpkg -l | less" ? Where can I read more about it? |
| 02:47.42 | *** join/#debian Justasic (~Justasic@184-100-207-68.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 02:47.54 | *** join/#debian davidrussell (~zurich@68-113-106-89.static.leds.al.charter.com) |
| 02:48.01 | aypea[2] | pipo: man bash, search for pipe |
| 02:48.47 | Pipo | thanks |
| 02:50.45 | *** join/#debian WormDude (~wormfood@183.15.181.117) |
| 02:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1051] by debhelper |
| 02:51.26 | *** join/#debian syn4pse- (~syn@p5DDC0837.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:52.49 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 02:52.50 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 02:56.24 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta (~MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot) |
| 02:56.38 | Pipo | got the sucker! I removed libpam-krb5 and woosh! Everything fine! |
| 02:57.07 | *** join/#debian tomkap (~tomkap@unaffiliated/tomkap) |
| 02:58.24 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 02:58.57 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 02:59.04 | *** join/#debian nat3 (~null@ppp-58-8-49-53.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 03:00.42 | *** join/#debian walterheck (~walterhec@78.180.93.160) |
| 03:01.41 | *** join/#debian Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 03:04.41 | ujjain | nagios-nrpe plugins depends on... fping libgd2-noxpm libnet-snmp-perl libradiusclient-ng2 libtalloc2 libwbclient0 nagios-images nagios-plugins nagios-plugins-basic nagios-plugins-standard nagios3 nagios3-cgi nagios3-common nagios3-core qstat samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient... but I dont want to use samba stuff... |
| 03:04.42 | *** join/#debian james (~james@199.21.199.156) |
| 03:05.01 | *** part/#debian james (~james@199.21.199.156) |
| 03:05.50 | ujjain | how should I install it without samba? |
| 03:06.17 | *** join/#debian cnu (cnu@the.ultimate.lamer.la) |
| 03:06.26 | stew | judd: depends nagios-nrpe-server |
| 03:06.27 | judd | Package nagios-nrpe-server -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.3), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8f-5), libwrap0 (>= 7.6-4~), lsb-base (>= 3.0-3). |
| 03:06.39 | stew | ujjain: you probably wnat to install --without-recommends |
| 03:07.12 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 03:07.17 | ujjain | hmm, It was not under suggested, but The following extra packages will be installed: |
| 03:07.22 | *** join/#debian el_doggy[14] (~x3User172@212.164.153.138) |
| 03:07.41 | ujjain | but I will try without those packages. |
| 03:07.43 | ujjain | thanks!! |
| 03:07.45 | stew | right, its not in Suggests: its in Recommends: |
| 03:07.52 | *** join/#debian jmichaelx (~james@199.21.199.156) |
| 03:08.05 | *** part/#debian jmichaelx (~james@199.21.199.156) |
| 03:08.43 | ujjain | so there is 1) dependencies 2) recommends 3) suggested ? |
| 03:09.05 | stew | yes, and also 4) enhances |
| 03:09.18 | stew | but you have the main three type of dependencies |
| 03:09.18 | ujjain | stew: thanks, how do I see if it's a dependency or recommend? |
| 03:09.23 | ujjain | via apt-get... |
| 03:09.26 | stew | ujjain: apt-cache show packagename |
| 03:09.31 | stew | you probably can't via apt-get |
| 03:09.56 | ujjain | right, I see it. |
| 03:10.11 | *** join/#debian jmichaelx (~james@199.21.199.156) |
| 03:10.17 | ujjain | thanks, apt-get cache is fine, I just was looking for a non-http/irc way ^^ |
| 03:10.20 | stew | ujjain: depends is "it won't work without these" recommends is "you are probably also expecting this as well, things might not work right without it, though not strictly required. suggests is "hey, you might also want this" |
| 03:11.03 | ujjain | right, I might need the pugins too, but not libradius or samba or snmp |
| 03:11.10 | stew | (there is also pre-depends, but you as user don't need to distinguish that from depends) |
| 03:11.57 | stew | without the recommends in this case, you end up with a nrpe server that cannot check anything. so you have to add whatever plugins you acutally need by hand. with the recommends you get them all, so stuff generally works |
| 03:12.13 | *** join/#debian killown (~geek@unaffiliated/killown) |
| 03:13.18 | *** part/#debian via (~via@vtluug/member/via) |
| 03:15.11 | *** part/#debian fr0ggie (fr0ggie@unaffiliated/nn) |
| 03:15.30 | infernix | is there an easier way to download a bunch of packages from testing other than wget + packages.debian.org? need to downgrade xorg and mesa on my unstable box |
| 03:16.31 | ujjain | stew: thanks :) I need nagios-plugins + nagios-server-nrpe iirc :) |
| 03:17.18 | *** join/#debian QuikNik (~djv@S010678ca39fbf9d1.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 03:17.27 | stew | infernix: /msg dpkg pinning |
| 03:17.53 | stew | infernix: or aptitude install package=version package2=otherversion |
| 03:18.03 | stew | infernix: or aptitude install package/testing |
| 03:18.47 | infernix | yeah but i'm going down in versions, does that even work nowadays? |
| 03:18.59 | stew | myabe |
| 03:19.06 | allan8904 | hi, i have flash hardware acceleration working in ubuntu, but on a debian setup with identical flash versions and configuration files it doesnt work...any idea why? |
| 03:19.09 | stew | downgrading is always dicey |
| 03:19.12 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 03:19.12 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 03:19.17 | infernix | maybe aint good enough, i'll just do the dreaded wget then |
| 03:19.17 | infernix | :> |
| 03:19.27 | stew | that's still the same maybe |
| 03:20.01 | stew | the maybe is that maintainer scripts don't support downgrading, not that you can't tell aptitude/apt-get to do this possibly broken thing for you |
| 03:20.18 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~josue@190.148.208.114) |
| 03:20.45 | infernix | i know. i'll live, been here before |
| 03:21.08 | stew | so why bother asking... |
| 03:21.31 | *** join/#debian celthunder (~celthunde@rofltech.net) |
| 03:22.47 | *** join/#debian rideh (~rideh@99-8-16-147.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:22.48 | infernix | i was asking for an easier way to get a bunch of packages from testing other than wgetting the URLs off of packages.debian.org, nothing more |
| 03:23.17 | stew | right, and i gave you three, and you decided to do the "dreaded thing" anyway |
| 03:24.18 | infernix | didn't i just point out that pinning won't work for downgrading? |
| 03:24.22 | infernix | anyway never mind |
| 03:24.58 | stew | from the manpage I was pointing you to "P > 1000 causes a version to be installed even if this constitutes a downgrade of the package" |
| 03:25.22 | stew | if this is not working, file a bug |
| 03:25.33 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 03:25.47 | *** join/#debian sasquatchzorin (~Zorin@univ097085.halls.colostate.edu) |
| 03:26.16 | sasquatchzorin | hello all |
| 03:26.38 | *** join/#debian brakus (~brakus@24.145.75.183) |
| 03:27.35 | brakus | people from Miami?\ |
| 03:27.38 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone) |
| 03:27.54 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (foobar@mnhm-5f74f2b6.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 03:28.09 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@99-8-168-46.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:28.09 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@unaffiliated/llua) |
| 03:28.19 | Justasic | *sigh* i dont understand why debian 6 and the newer ubuntu's refuse to boot on any of my computers |
| 03:29.15 | gnarface | Justasic: are they P3 systems? |
| 03:29.27 | allan8904 | i feel you Justasic....i dont understand why flash doesnt work in debian properly when it works fine in ubuntu |
| 03:29.45 | Justasic | its a celeron |
| 03:29.49 | sasquatchzorin | Justasic: I was using unetbootin gui for my debian live distro and had the same issue until I specifically chose 'Live 686' |
| 03:30.35 | Justasic | well no its not even that, it boots to the bootloader/installer menu but freezes when it tries to load a kernel |
| 03:31.20 | sasquatchzorin | Justasic: huh, sorry no experience with that |
| 03:31.21 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@183.15.180.123) |
| 03:31.38 | Justasic | and ubuntu does the same thing |
| 03:31.49 | Justasic | heh i have been on debian 5 for everything |
| 03:32.56 | stew | Justasic: specifically which image are you trying to boot? |
| 03:33.24 | *** part/#debian Pipo (~clap@modemcable043.168-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:33.29 | stew | unetbootin should really no be necessary with a current debian version |
| 03:34.00 | Justasic | stew, its the debian 6.0.1 i386 net install i believe |
| 03:34.17 | stew | hrm |
| 03:35.20 | somiaj | I have a directory tree /home/foo on both my laptop and desktop, each has been modified sepertally. Is there a tool I can use to compare the two trees, such that it copys over any missing files and in the case of modified files keeps the ones with the newest timestamp? |
| 03:35.38 | *** join/#debian citizen666 (~citizen66@ip016.231-51-69.Sogetel.net) |
| 03:35.50 | gnarface | somiaj: rsync? |
| 03:35.59 | somiaj | seems rsync only goes one way -- I might be able to achive such an effect |
| 03:36.08 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@r180-216-74-50.cpe.vividwireless.net.au) |
| 03:36.19 | gnarface | somiaj: read the entire rsync man page carefully |
| 03:36.29 | somiaj | gnarface: I haven't found an option that does what I want...seems to use a clear source/destination. |
| 03:36.36 | *** join/#debian cdhelp1234 (~root@99-153-255-163.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:37.09 | gnarface | somiaj: you're telling me you can't find an option to keep the newest timestamp? |
| 03:37.25 | *** join/#debian celord (~celord@200.91.75.115) |
| 03:38.12 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-67-44-26.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:38.33 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (~suguru@w0109-49-133-131-143.uqwimax.jp) |
| 03:38.48 | *** join/#debian aef (~quassel@neoschlageter.raxys.net) |
| 03:38.50 | gnarface | somiaj: what about -u? |
| 03:38.52 | somiaj | gnarface: not that, as far as I can tell it only goes one direction -- so I'll have to sync twice so I was more hoping for other tools |
| 03:38.54 | *** join/#debian intlkleinblue (~mazzo@97-114-11-235.roch.qwest.net) |
| 03:39.34 | Tux^verdreifelt | somiaj: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ maybe? |
| 03:39.47 | *** join/#debian c2pLaY (~yep@S01060026f3c71ae8.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 03:39.47 | *** join/#debian c2pLaY (~yep@unaffiliated/c2play) |
| 03:39.49 | somiaj | one maybe more suited for this case. |
| 03:39.50 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 03:40.53 | sasquatchzorin | anyone used lxde and noticed a considerable speed difference compared to gnome? |
| 03:41.00 | somiaj | Tux^verdreifelt: yes that seems to be the tool I was looking for. |
| 03:41.12 | gnarface | somiaj: i'm pretty sure rsync can do what you want you just didn't read the man page carefully enough. check out the options --compare-dest=DIR --copy-dest=DIR --link-dest=DIR |
| 03:43.02 | Tux^verdreifelt | gnarface: the problem is that these are DESTINATIONS |
| 03:43.07 | stew | i don't think rsync can do what he wants |
| 03:43.22 | Tux^verdreifelt | but he doesn't know if a dir. is a src or a dest yet |
| 03:44.04 | stew | somiaj: you want so that if you change file A on machine A and file B on machine B, you run one command and A gets copied to machine B and B gets copied to machine A and nothing else happens, right? |
| 03:44.07 | *** join/#debian Celelibi (celelibi@231.238.62.62.rev.sfr.net) |
| 03:44.23 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 03:44.59 | somiaj | stew: correct, along with copy over any files I create on either machine. |
| 03:45.18 | somiaj | unison looks a tool that will dot hat and it is in the debian repos |
| 03:46.22 | *** join/#debian daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@r180-216-74-50.cpe.vividwireless.net.au) |
| 03:46.53 | ujjain | How do I add nonfree to apt sources? |
| 03:47.17 | somiaj | ujjain: modify /etc/apt/sources.list (uslaly just add non-free to the end of the desired source lines) |
| 03:47.50 | *** join/#debian B|ackbird (tanta@unaffiliated/backbird/x-3237639) |
| 03:47.58 | somiaj | ujjain: the line may look something like this "deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free" |
| 03:49.26 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@82.131.67.152.cable.starman.ee) |
| 03:50.08 | ujjain | thanks somiaj , |
| 03:50.34 | somiaj | ujjain: aptitude update afterwards of coures, (: |
| 03:50.42 | ujjain | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.surfnet.nl/os/Linux/distr/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/Release Unable to find expected entry nonfree/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 03:50.43 | *** join/#debian mordoczero (~mordoczer@host249.190-230-31.telecom.net.ar) |
| 03:50.47 | ujjain | apt-get update not good? |
| 03:50.54 | somiaj | either or |
| 03:50.54 | *** part/#debian mordoczero (~mordoczer@host249.190-230-31.telecom.net.ar) |
| 03:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1045] by debhelper |
| 03:51.05 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 03:51.05 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 03:51.07 | somiaj | ujjain: non-free |
| 03:51.24 | ujjain | I wrote non-free. |
| 03:51.42 | ujjain | argh, |
| 03:51.48 | somiaj | didn't apear so in your error you got |
| 03:51.50 | ujjain | I did not write nonfree, I just thought... |
| 03:52.02 | ujjain | no, I wrote nonfree indeed, while I said to myself, add the dash, add the dash |
| 03:53.50 | ujjain | how do I add sid? I need debian snmp-mibs-downloader for observium. |
| 03:53.52 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@82.131.67.152.cable.starman.ee) |
| 03:54.00 | ice799 | Is it recommended to use CDBS when packaging? I don't need anything special. It's jsut a bunch of C code. I need to run configure, make, and then copy a few configuration files into place. |
| 03:54.19 | somiaj | you don't want to just add a 'sid' package to your stable system cause of dependencies and once you pull in a bad libc6 you'll start to get bugs |
| 03:54.31 | somiaj | ujjain: look into backports or making your own if you want a sid package you don't have |
| 03:55.14 | *** join/#debian sourcode (~code@ppp-58-8-96-210.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 03:55.22 | *** join/#debian intlkleinblue (~mazzo@97-114-11-235.roch.qwest.net) |
| 03:55.45 | ujjain | somiaj: Thanks. |
| 03:56.04 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 03:56.04 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 03:56.15 | somiaj | !tell ujjain about ssbp |
| 03:56.51 | *** join/#debian wols (~klingens@p5B0DAAB8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:58.32 | ujjain | deb http://ftp.surfnet.nl/os/Linux/distr/debian/ squeeze-updates main non-free squeeze-backports |
| 03:58.36 | ujjain | typo again? |
| 03:58.47 | stew | ujjain: what version of debian are you running? |
| 03:58.51 | stew | judd: versions snmp-mibs-downloader |
| 03:58.51 | judd | Package snmp-mibs-downloader on i386 -- sid/non-free: 1.1; squeeze/non-free: 1.1; wheezy/non-free: 1.1 |
| 03:59.08 | ujjain | oh, it's in squeeze-nonfree. |
| 03:59.14 | ujjain | I am running 6.x |
| 03:59.24 | ujjain | E: Package 'snmp-mibs-downloader' has no installation candidate |
| 03:59.26 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (~suguru@w0109-49-133-131-143.uqwimax.jp) |
| 03:59.56 | ujjain | I use x64 though. |
| 03:59.56 | somiaj | ice799: cdbs has been fine for the packages I have had to create the debian/ build rules, has even worked fine with wine's offical source here. |
| 04:00.47 | stew | ice799: people either love or hate cdbs, there are probably more haters than non-haters. dh7 is more popular than cdbs for simple packaging |
| 04:00.59 | stew | judd: versions snmp-mibs-downloader --arch amd64 |
| 04:01.00 | judd | Package snmp-mibs-downloader on amd64 -- sid/non-free: 1.1; squeeze/non-free: 1.1; wheezy/non-free: 1.1 |
| 04:01.05 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 04:01.10 | stew | ujjain: /msg dpkg squeeze sources.list |
| 04:01.29 | *** join/#debian Tobias| (~Tobias@202-6-153-16.static.adam.com.au) |
| 04:01.39 | Tobias| | Anybody have experience getting xboxdrv working under squeeze? |
| 04:01.53 | stew | ujjain: squeeze-backports and squeeze-updates are two completely different things, you cannot add squeeze-backports to the end of the line like that. to use bacports, see backports.debian.org |
| 04:02.09 | stew | ujjain: the non-free you are looking for would go at the end of a line that had "squeeze" not "squeeze-updates" |
| 04:02.13 | wols | Tobias|: please state yor real problem |
| 04:03.00 | wols | stew: what are "-updates"? new name for security? |
| 04:03.14 | ujjain | I am searching in squeeze/non-free stew. |
| 04:03.41 | *** join/#debian Mrc0d3r (Mrc0d3r@unaffiliated/mrc0d3r) |
| 04:03.41 | stew | wols: no, its the new volatile, named for maximum confusion with squeeze/updates which is security |
| 04:03.41 | *** join/#debian cdquestion (~root@cpe-75-82-205-210.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 04:03.44 | ujjain | stew: I dont have such a line. |
| 04:03.55 | wols | stew: awesomeness! |
| 04:04.06 | *** part/#debian Mrc0d3r (Mrc0d3r@unaffiliated/mrc0d3r) |
| 04:04.08 | wols | ujjain: that's why you can't get it :) |
| 04:04.16 | stew | ujjain: put your sources.list into a pastebin |
| 04:04.32 | ice799 | stew: ok maybe i'll give dh7 a shot then |
| 04:04.51 | Tobias| | xboxdrv isn't in squeeze's packages and compiling it myself looks to be a convoluted process due to several of the dependencies not existing in squeeze's repository. Hence, I'm angling for a simple way to get xboxdrv set up on squeeze. Is that better, wols? |
| 04:04.58 | ice799 | any pointers to documentation for dh7, stew? |
| 04:05.01 | stew | ice799: well, you'd likely be using dh8 or dh9, but dh7 was the one that first made for the 3 line debian/rules files |
| 04:05.11 | ujjain | stew: http://www.codepad.eu/view/87761250 |
| 04:05.20 | wols | Tobias|: not really: WHAT dependencies? |
| 04:05.28 | stew | ice799: no, sorry |
| 04:05.41 | *** part/#debian cdquestion (~root@cpe-75-82-205-210.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 04:05.48 | stew | judd: build-dep xboxdrv --release experimental |
| 04:05.50 | judd | Package xboxdrv -- Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 8), scons, libusb-dev, libx11-dev, libboost-thread1.42-dev. |
| 04:05.56 | stew | judd: versions libboost-thread1.42-dev |
| 04:05.57 | judd | Package libboost-thread1.42-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 1.42.0-4; sid: 1.42.0-4+b1; wheezy: 1.42.0-4+b1 |
| 04:06.00 | Tobias| | dbux-glib-1 and gthread-2.0 |
| 04:06.03 | wols | Tobias|: all you need is build-essential and your current linux-headers- oackage. done. if you install vbox via debian, all is done automatically |
| 04:06.16 | Tobias| | vbox? |
| 04:06.19 | stew | Tobias|: those don't look like build dependencies |
| 04:07.04 | stew | ujjain: you also want a "deb http://ftp.surfnet.nl/os/Linux/distr/debian/ squeeze main non-free" |
| 04:07.05 | wols | stew: virtualbox-ose-extensions or such. and Tobias| probably doesn't use debian repos for it... |
| 04:07.24 | Tobias| | When did virtualbox come into this? |
| 04:07.32 | stew | i don't know |
| 04:07.39 | ice799 | stew: cool thanks |
| 04:07.43 | stew | Tobias|: are you compiling the source package from experimental? |
| 04:07.46 | ice799 | stew: ill try to use this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ i think |
| 04:07.48 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 04:07.48 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 04:07.56 | wols | mea culpa. sorry. I didn't read corrctly. vboxdrv is the main module for vbox |
| 04:08.01 | Tobias| | No; stew. Downloaded it from http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/ |
| 04:08.17 | wols | Tobias|: and much more common than xboxdrv |
| 04:08.43 | stew | ice799: look at source packages which are declaring a depencency on debhelper > 7 and look at their debian/rules. many of them will have a 3 line rules file |
| 04:08.49 | Tobias| | I see, sir |
| 04:09.06 | *** join/#debian HerbMillerJr (~neophytep@c-67-172-29-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 04:09.18 | *** part/#debian antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) |
| 04:09.43 | stew | ice799: perhaps: grep-dctrl -F Build-Depends debhelper -s Build-Depends,Package /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Sources |
| 04:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1036] by debhelper |
| 04:11.20 | *** join/#debian antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) |
| 04:11.31 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 04:12.23 | allan8904 | i have flash hardware acceleration working in ubuntu, but on a debian setup with identical flash versions and configuration files it doesnt work...is there a technical reason why this isnt working on debian? |
| 04:12.40 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 04:12.41 | stew | flash has configuration files? |
| 04:13.01 | allan8904 | stew: yeah in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg |
| 04:15.46 | *** join/#debian bla (bla@afdns.sownet.pl) |
| 04:17.09 | *** join/#debian late (~chatzilla@221.201.107.104) |
| 04:17.12 | *** join/#debian jnovoas (~jnovoas@201.222.232.83) |
| 04:17.26 | *** join/#debian Phenox_ (~Bernd@88.215.198.24) |
| 04:17.50 | *** part/#debian sasquatchzorin (~Zorin@univ097085.halls.colostate.edu) |
| 04:18.25 | *** part/#debian ddan (~iacku@host230-237-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:19.50 | *** join/#debian moele (~turtle@S010620cf304ce9d6.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 04:19.53 | moele | I HATE YOU DEBIAN |
| 04:19.54 | moele | :( |
| 04:19.57 | moele | i got hacked today |
| 04:20.00 | moele | and its all your fault |
| 04:20.42 | ujjain | stew, it's stuck at 99% [1 Packages gzip 0 B] |
| 04:20.54 | ujjain | oh, just took very long, high load on virtual machine |
| 04:21.17 | *** part/#debian jnovoas (~jnovoas@201.222.232.83) |
| 04:21.29 | ujjain | awesome worked, thanks stew ! |
| 04:21.32 | ujjain | moele: what happened? |
| 04:22.09 | moele | ujjain, one word. |
| 04:22.11 | moele | ujjain, Joombla |
| 04:22.20 | *** join/#debian bla (bla@afdns.sownet.pl) |
| 04:22.27 | ujjain | oh lol, I hosted many joomla's that got hacked |
| 04:22.32 | ujjain | no biggie |
| 04:22.41 | ujjain | just make sure to block the site quickly, inform the customer, so the spam stops. |
| 04:22.55 | ujjain | but your debian is still fine right? or did they get into the server too? |
| 04:23.14 | moele | they ran arbi code. that spawned a root console |
| 04:23.19 | moele | they had sex with my machine |
| 04:23.30 | moele | stupid apache |
| 04:23.35 | moele | some much for chroot |
| 04:23.39 | moele | so much* |
| 04:23.40 | moele | anyways |
| 04:23.42 | moele | its ok |
| 04:23.45 | moele | i restored from backup |
| 04:23.49 | moele | removed all instances of joomie |
| 04:23.57 | moele | and told clients they cant use joomla |
| 04:23.57 | ujjain | well, if ur customers can spawn a root console, |
| 04:23.58 | moele | phpmyadmin |
| 04:23.59 | totem | moele: i had to be there? |
| 04:24.01 | moele | or anything else crappy :) |
| 04:24.03 | ujjain | then something is wrong with security. |
| 04:24.04 | moele | totem, ya ; |
| 04:24.19 | totem | moele: ewwww |
| 04:24.41 | ujjain | shame :( consider running hardened suhosin php to be sure, and follow guides, try to see how they hacked you rserver |
| 04:24.50 | ujjain | seems very wrong if they can get root access via php |
| 04:24.52 | moele | i know how they did |
| 04:24.53 | moele | lol |
| 04:24.55 | moele | i just told you |
| 04:25.03 | moele | they ran like blah.php?c=/bin/sh |
| 04:25.05 | moele | it isnt hard |
| 04:25.15 | moele | and it was moronic |
| 04:25.16 | *** join/#debian Quite (~mats@213-64-74-217-no57.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 04:25.19 | moele | i will never use joomla |
| 04:25.26 | moele | and i use bastile or whatever |
| 04:25.28 | moele | to harden my system |
| 04:25.28 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 04:25.29 | ujjain | hmm, this does not seem like a secure set-up at all? even chroot |
| 04:25.32 | boudiccas | moele; please stop using th e enter key for punctuation |
| 04:25.33 | moele | as well as locking down every mechanic i can thinik of |
| 04:25.42 | moele | boudiccas, is it a crime? |
| 04:25.44 | ujjain | stop blaming Joomla ffs, I hosted thousands of domains and Joomla got hacked all the time. |
| 04:25.53 | moele | ujjain, heh |
| 04:25.56 | moele | ujjain, it was joomla |
| 04:25.57 | ujjain | it's just part of the joomla way of life. |
| 04:25.57 | moele | crappy coding |
| 04:26.00 | moele | led to buffer overflows |
| 04:26.12 | ujjain | right, but the servers never got hacked though. |
| 04:26.16 | moele | meh |
| 04:26.20 | moele | alright |
| 04:26.25 | *** join/#debian LegolasV (~whoeiii35@kde/developer/sverberkt) |
| 04:26.30 | *** join/#debian honu (~kris@cpe-66-8-245-216.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 04:26.32 | moele | how do you find ops |
| 04:26.33 | moele | for a channel? |
| 04:26.41 | moele | is there a chanserc command? |
| 04:26.44 | ujjain | chanserv info maybe, |
| 04:27.06 | moele | hmm |
| 04:27.09 | stew | moele: /msg chanserv access #channel list |
| 04:27.10 | ujjain | no, that's not it, I dont know how you can see flags ops, |
| 04:27.42 | stew | moele: and yes, you should really use more punctuation and less <enter> key |
| 04:27.48 | moele | sorry |
| 04:27.51 | moele | cant help it |
| 04:27.56 | moele | ive been doing it for 6 years... |
| 04:27.58 | boudiccas | bullshit! |
| 04:28.00 | moele | more like 12.. |
| 04:28.02 | stew | moele: you'll have to try |
| 04:28.04 | moele | boudiccas, language please |
| 04:28.10 | stew | her language is fine |
| 04:28.12 | moele | no its not |
| 04:28.16 | stew | moele: then use ignore |
| 04:28.20 | moele | i just did ;) |
| 04:28.37 | *** join/#debian intlkleinblue (~mazzo@97-114-6-250.roch.qwest.net) |
| 04:29.08 | Arrowmaster | if you use any kinda free cms or portal software it will be hacked if you dont keep a strict eye on it |
| 04:30.01 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 04:30.05 | ujjain | Yeah, wordpress has nice auto-update function though, obviously you shouldn't customize much then. |
| 04:30.21 | ujjain | but if you have tens of sites, using Joomla will get hellishh with security updates. |
| 04:30.30 | *** join/#debian stylesen (~stylesen@202.3.120.9) |
| 04:31.28 | honu | I have a couple of noob questions, is Swap a part of Mem? I mean I have 1.7G of RAM and 900mb in Swap ... is that 900mb from Memory/ |
| 04:31.56 | Arrowmaster | swap is the equivalent of a page file in windows if you know what that is |
| 04:32.03 | honu | yes i do, thanks |
| 04:32.35 | honu | I have a memory issue I guess.. I have 1.7g and 1.2g used and I can't see where it's being used with top |
| 04:32.59 | boudiccas | honu; firefox/iceweasel? |
| 04:33.19 | *** join/#debian crus (~crusader@2001:44b8:7f2b:bec0::607:beef) |
| 04:33.37 | honu | boudiccas: iceweasel? never heard of it |
| 04:33.41 | honu | http://pastebin.com/e4mEtMfj does this look odd? |
| 04:33.44 | boudiccas | thats notorious for being a memory hog |
| 04:34.07 | honu | I'm just running a debian squeeze box with LAMP |
| 04:34.32 | *** join/#debian Somename (kvirc@host80.186-125-66.telecom.net.ar) |
| 04:34.38 | Arrowmaster | honu: probably just being used by disk cache, see http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 04:35.34 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone) |
| 04:35.52 | honu | ah k |
| 04:36.11 | honu | so when i do #free -m it shows 1.2g free |
| 04:36.16 | honu | -/+ buffers |
| 04:36.52 | *** join/#debian piko (~piko@ip4-83-240-108-205.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 04:44.20 | honu | thanks Arrowmaster |
| 04:46.08 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 04:46.30 | *** join/#debian martchukov (~antonm@178.67.101.75) |
| 04:46.38 | *** join/#debian Python1320 (~python132@unaffiliated/python1320) |
| 04:47.07 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 04:48.44 | *** join/#debian halcon (~halcon@S0106002275466fa5.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 04:50.12 | *** join/#debian adminewb (~local@67-220-12-225.usiwireless.com) |
| 04:51.57 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 04:53.41 | *** join/#debian walterheck (~walterhec@78.180.93.160) |
| 04:55.34 | *** join/#debian Quite (~mats@213-64-74-217-no57.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 04:58.05 | *** join/#debian jonez (~jam@75-138-122-224.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com) |
| 04:58.05 | *** join/#debian jonez (~jam@unaffiliated/jonez) |
| 04:59.22 | *** part/#debian Quite (~mats@213-64-74-217-no57.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 04:59.35 | *** join/#debian maum (~maum@210.119.60.152) |
| 05:00.00 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 05:00.14 | *** join/#debian Quite (~mats@213-64-74-217-no57.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 05:00.29 | *** join/#debian Raptors (~Raptors@dsl-173-248-213-35.acanac.net) |
| 05:00.55 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 05:01.19 | *** join/#debian crypticsquared (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 05:01.25 | *** join/#debian mfladischer (~fladische@2001:470:1f0b:11df:ddae:6de3:d33c:6ca6) |
| 05:02.44 | adminewb | stew? I discovered something w.r.t. my trouble with cpufreq_stats module; seems that having a definite value for CPU clock and multiplier, instead of default "auto" setting, triggers a fault when the kernel module tries to control what BIOS claims. Difficulty now is that by default it (kernel? BIOS?) chooses a clock of 2.1GHz, where I had 1.9 with a reduced core voltage. CPU tends now to overheat without extra cooling on an open box. How can |
| 05:03.37 | stew | adminewb: you got cut off after "How can", but I can tell that my answer is going to be "no idea" :) but i'm glad to hear that you've made some progress |
| 05:04.03 | adminewb | :D How can I regain control of my heat load? |
| 05:04.46 | adminewb | yes it's nice to at least know what brought on the kernel oops |
| 05:05.54 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 05:06.20 | *** join/#debian evilbulgarian (~vladi@66-192-149-18.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 05:06.21 | stew | adminewb: i'd check "modinfo modulename" for all the cpufreq modules you have loaded (lsmod | grep cpufreq) to see if anything looks relevant |
| 05:06.30 | stew | adminewb: and I'd check documentation in /usr/share/doc/cpufrequtils |
| 05:07.00 | *** join/#debian icewewe (~hmartin@unaffiliated/icewewe) |
| 05:07.14 | stew | adminewb: and cpufreqd might be something else to look at |
| 05:07.28 | adminewb | sounds decent, thanks stew |
| 05:07.31 | stew | though userspace stuff might not happen soon enough to prevent the oops |
| 05:07.58 | stew | adminewb: in "modinfo" you are looking for params which might help |
| 05:10.50 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 05:11.25 | *** join/#debian ymasory (~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 05:11.40 | adminewb | in this case I'd imagine there'd have to be a fairly tight control loop daemon, that feeds temp increases into a reduction in core voltage & clock speed, to arrive at some equilibrium |
| 05:12.32 | *** join/#debian secure1 (~jokar@91.98.0.234) |
| 05:12.48 | secure1 | hi all |
| 05:12.51 | secure1 | o/ all |
| 05:13.08 | secure1 | i want dowanload debian 64 bit for intel core2 duo |
| 05:13.16 | adminewb | been playing with showing live sensor readings on the panel in xfce, that could work a lot better; cpu clock rates are not on offer for monitoring either |
| 05:13.19 | wols | secure1: amd64 |
| 05:13.23 | secure1 | in website i only see amd 64 |
| 05:13.38 | wols | adminewb: conky or such maybe? |
| 05:13.46 | secure1 | amd64 work on intel core2due? |
| 05:13.49 | adminewb | conky might be the thing, thanks wols |
| 05:14.00 | wols | Phenox_: why not control voltage explicitly? |
| 05:14.06 | wols | adminewb: ^^ |
| 05:14.12 | secure1 | wols |
| 05:14.18 | adminewb | secure1, intel has bowed to market acceptance of amd's 64 bit arch |
| 05:14.28 | wols | !amd64 |
| 05:14.28 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running i386 Debian with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. core2duo machines are AMD64. See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>. |
| 05:15.08 | wols | adminewb: what is the specified default MHz for your CPU? |
| 05:15.16 | secure1 | ok,therefor if i download amd64 i can run it on intel |
| 05:15.47 | secure1 | my cpu is intel core2due 2.66 GHZ |
| 05:15.51 | adminewb | wols, don't know, how would I find out? my guess is 2.0GHz, but it's just a guess |
| 05:16.09 | wols | adminewb: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 05:16.32 | wols | the "model name" |
| 05:16.52 | adminewb | model: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ |
| 05:17.06 | adminewb | but afaik that has poor correlation to nominal clock rates |
| 05:17.23 | wols | nah, it secifies exactly what max clock you can use :) |
| 05:17.23 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 05:18.01 | adminewb | well, the 4000+ refers to some fudgified benchmark factor or other I hear |
| 05:18.02 | secure1 | hey all,AMD64 is for amd and intel? |
| 05:18.13 | wols | and you can get linux-phc to control voltage continously so it can never overhat again. tho unless you are in the trpics with 35°C it shouldn't overheat :) |
| 05:18.17 | adminewb | secure1, read what dpkg bot said |
| 05:18.23 | wols | secure1: yes |
| 05:18.30 | secure1 | thank you |
| 05:18.32 | secure1 | ;) |
| 05:18.40 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-24-63-160-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 05:18.40 | secure1 | excuse me |
| 05:18.48 | secure1 | debian have 6 dvd |
| 05:18.55 | secure1 | 8 dvd |
| 05:19.01 | wols | secure1: you only need CD1 or DVD1 |
| 05:19.04 | adminewb | linux-phc, got it ty |
| 05:19.12 | secure1 | what is another dvd? |
| 05:19.17 | *** join/#debian reactor (~lab-term-@unaffiliated/reactor) |
| 05:19.23 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 05:19.24 | stew | secure1: the other dvds are there as a way to get packages to machines which cannot download packages from a network |
| 05:19.26 | wols | secure1: the rest of debian. debian is a very very big distro |
| 05:19.39 | reactor | guys? Is package called "desktop-base" installed by default? |
| 05:19.52 | secure1 | oh |
| 05:20.00 | secure1 | it use for install offline |
| 05:20.03 | secure1 | ? |
| 05:20.08 | stew | reactor: its installed if you tell it ot install a "Desktop" task at the end of the install |
| 05:20.08 | wols | reactor: no. but it might be installable via tasksel at the end of the installation. not default tho |
| 05:20.13 | stew | secure1: yes |
| 05:20.14 | wols | secure1: yes |
| 05:20.20 | secure1 | very nice |
| 05:20.25 | secure1 | i'm a fedora user |
| 05:20.28 | stew | wols and I seem to agree on a lot suddenly :) |
| 05:20.32 | secure1 | but i want swich to debian |
| 05:20.42 | secure1 | fedora package install online |
| 05:20.54 | wols | stew: scary! the end of the world must be near any day now. maybe that christian funie has been right! |
| 05:20.57 | reactor | stew, wols, even in case machine has graphical user interface? |
| 05:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1027] by debhelper |
| 05:21.03 | secure1 | if debian package install offline it is very good |
| 05:21.03 | *** join/#debian home-alone (~home-alon@119.152.36.187) |
| 05:21.18 | wols | secure1: yes, even then. "by default" debian doesn't install X |
| 05:21.36 | secure1 | aha |
| 05:21.42 | secure1 | it is very good |
| 05:22.01 | stew | reactor: at the end of the install process you get a bunch of checkboxes for "Standard" "Desktop" "Web server" "File Server" etc. if you check the Desktop one, you get desktop-base |
| 05:22.03 | secure1 | debian is nice |
| 05:22.10 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@f052201141.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 05:22.36 | secure1 | excuse me what is ia64? |
| 05:22.42 | *** join/#debian dokyb (dokyb@host123-166-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 05:22.47 | secure1 | i download it but not boot on my system |
| 05:22.50 | stew | secure1: itanium2 |
| 05:23.05 | reactor | ok |
| 05:23.06 | reactor | thx |
| 05:23.06 | secure1 | not work on intel core2due? |
| 05:23.08 | *** part/#debian reactor (~lab-term-@unaffiliated/reactor) |
| 05:23.11 | stew | secure1: you don't have one. people that spent 100k on a machine that has itanium don't have to question :) |
| 05:23.12 | Bushmills | !ia64 |
| 05:23.12 | dpkg | Intel Architecture-64 (IA-64) is a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as <Itanium> and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>. |
| 05:23.21 | stew | secure1: certainly not |
| 05:23.54 | secure1 | very good |
| 05:23.58 | secure1 | i understand |
| 05:24.37 | adminewb | debian seems to be the distro with more arch support than anyone; I imagine you get lots of arch questions here |
| 05:24.53 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 05:25.10 | *** join/#debian McMAGIC--Copy (~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy) |
| 05:26.08 | nyov | yay, always wanted to install debian on an S/360 - if someone could provide the S/360? |
| 05:26.14 | wols | surprisingly rare. the amd64/ia64 thing is the worst |
| 05:26.22 | stew | i haven't paid attention to what netbsd is running on these days, which is the other os that supports lots of arches. but debian has also started dropping arches |
| 05:26.29 | *** join/#debian sjs205 (~sjs205@host86-160-172-107.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:26.43 | stew | we no longer have m68k or alpha or arm, for instance |
| 05:26.48 | adminewb | architecture, rather, not arch linux xP |
| 05:26.59 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 05:27.38 | *** join/#debian cornelinux (~koelbel@dslb-094-219-155-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:28.42 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 05:28.44 | Bushmills | wasn't somebody busy porting debian to P'' ? |
| 05:28.52 | *** join/#debian fulgore (~fulgore@glomsecurity.com) |
| 05:30.13 | adminewb | off topic? secure1, if you don't mind, what prompted the desire to use debian rather than fedora |
| 05:30.39 | *** join/#debian evilbulgarian (~vladi@66-192-149-18.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 05:30.44 | fulgore | eh, that's a chevy vs ford |
| 05:31.05 | *** join/#debian slon_ (slon@ip4-83-240-73-64.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 05:31.10 | *** join/#debian ymasory (~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 05:31.15 | adminewb | nvm then |
| 05:34.00 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 05:34.09 | *** join/#debian tobago (~crolle@unaffiliated/tobago) |
| 05:35.43 | *** join/#debian piko (~piko@ip4-83-240-108-205.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 05:36.54 | *** join/#debian lanze_so4 (~hed@clnet-p02-144.ikbnet.co.at) |
| 05:39.43 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@2.211.184.217) |
| 05:39.45 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-104-112.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:41.04 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 05:42.48 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-104-112.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:46.12 | *** join/#debian Justasic (~Justasic@184-100-207-68.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 05:46.41 | *** join/#debian mosno2 (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 05:47.34 | adminewb | just found the linux-phc page at sourceforge |
| 05:49.08 | *** join/#debian crazy2k_ (~pablo@unaffiliated/crazy2k) |
| 05:49.38 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@178.131.93.45) |
| 05:49.42 | stew | wow, yeah, http://www.netbsd.org/docs/ netbsd still runs on lots of arches |
| 05:49.54 | adminewb | it looks as though it may be too closely tied to a given kernel version |
| 05:50.18 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 05:50.40 | crazy2k_ | Why don't I have an xorg.conf in debian squeeze? |
| 05:50.51 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-104-112.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:51.14 | adminewb | playstation2 o.o |
| 05:51.23 | allan8904 | crazy2k_: you dont need one by default |
| 05:51.28 | allan8904 | only if you want to do crazy stuff |
| 05:52.06 | *** join/#debian tiphiid (~tiphiid@24.121.121.6) |
| 05:52.24 | crazy2k_ | allan8904: I have installed debian squeeze on an old mac. A PowerPC G4 which has an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200. I'd like to know if X is using the card or what. |
| 05:54.18 | *** part/#debian secure1 (~jokar@91.98.0.234) |
| 05:54.59 | crazy2k_ | I'm installing xserver-xorg-video-radeon now. |
| 05:55.00 | *** join/#debian imran-uk (~imran@188-222-192-73.zone13.bethere.co.uk) |
| 05:55.05 | *** join/#debian rocketmagnet (~rocketmag@unaffiliated/rocketmagnet) |
| 05:55.08 | rocketmagnet | hi all |
| 05:55.08 | crazy2k_ | Oh, it was already installed. |
| 05:55.30 | allan8904 | crazy2k_: what do you mean if its using the card? |
| 05:55.33 | stew | crazy2k_: does X start? |
| 05:56.48 | crazy2k_ | Yes, everything is fine. My knowledge on this is pretty poor. I noticed there's a CPU peek when I move windows around, for example, and was wondering if the processor is doing something the graphics card should do. |
| 05:56.53 | crazy2k_ | Maybe this is normal. |
| 05:57.27 | rocketmagnet | i have a problem with x11 - when i first started it it worked normaly, but now when i start it i only get a black screen and nothing happens (also ctrl+alt+ent doesn't work anymore |
| 05:57.34 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~dnai23@HSI-KBW-078-043-178-011.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 05:57.37 | *** join/#debian jemark (~mark@unaffiliated/jemark) |
| 05:57.47 | rocketmagnet | which log file should i look at to find the problem ? i can start into singleuser mode |
| 05:58.04 | allan8904 | crazy2k_: nah thats normal :) X is running fine |
| 05:58.17 | *** join/#debian luxor (~quassel@91.178.200.127) |
| 05:58.43 | allan8904 | if you want proof your graphics card driver module is running type lsmod and look whats loaded under video |
| 05:59.04 | stew | crazy2k_: what does "glxinfo | grep direct" return? |
| 05:59.41 | *** join/#debian grubbyt (~tompfr@ool-45788600.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:59.45 | *** join/#debian davyg (~davyg@2a01:e35:8b2b:fac0:215:c5ff:fe7e:4a96) |
| 05:59.55 | crazy2k_ | stew: direct rendering: Yes |
| 06:00.11 | stew | crazy2k_: then you are using hardware accelleration on your graphics cad |
| 06:00.13 | stew | card* |
| 06:00.27 | crazy2k_ | stew: Thanks. |
| 06:00.36 | crazy2k_ | allan8904: Thank you too. |
| 06:00.46 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-104-112.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 06:00.51 | allan8904 | no probs crazy2k_ |
| 06:00.52 | wols | rocketmagnet: Xorg.0.log also check if you can boot into text mode nromally, ie not loading the DM |
| 06:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1036] by debhelper |
| 06:01.39 | *** join/#debian KitsuneDrag0n (~hats@unaffiliated/kitsunedrag0n) |
| 06:02.09 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 06:03.03 | *** join/#debian mrcarrot (~lasse@unaffiliated/mrcarrot) |
| 06:03.06 | *** join/#debian voss749 (~chatzilla@adsl-68-223-206-196.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:03.52 | mrcarrot | before i even bother to try to install, i want to ask here as i found nothing on google: is adobe flash working on amd64 running kFreeBSD debian |
| 06:04.05 | *** join/#debian ailo_ (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 06:04.15 | *** join/#debian drew987 (~drew987@ovh.frag.co.uk) |
| 06:04.54 | *** join/#debian corretico (~luis@201.201.44.82) |
| 06:06.01 | crazy2k_ | stew: I see my results in glxgears are a bit low comparing to what I saw on the Internet, but I guess that's because my card is a Mobility, not just a Radeon 9200. |
| 06:08.33 | rocketmagnet | wols: what's the DM ? |
| 06:08.34 | allan8904 | crazy2k_: yeah you'll notice a bit of a difference on the low power notebook cards vs desktop cards |
| 06:08.49 | rocketmagnet | i can start into single user mode normaly |
| 06:09.39 | stew | crazy2k_: glxgears isn't a benchmark. when things work correctly, glxgears framerate should match the monitor refresh rate |
| 06:09.48 | rocketmagnet | wols: i start into singleuser mode and come back to irssi .. ok ? |
| 06:10.27 | *** join/#debian pAt_ (~schlagete@82.113.98.128) |
| 06:10.35 | wols | rocketmagnet: "display manager" |
| 06:10.36 | *** join/#debian apt415 (~apt415@S01060026f3e131e8.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 06:10.41 | wols | !nodm |
| 06:10.41 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 06:11.26 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-104-112.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 06:11.36 | rocketmagnet | wols: but don't i need a DM to use gnome ? |
| 06:11.54 | Bushmills | no need |
| 06:12.09 | rozie | crazy2k_: 9200 is an old card. don't expect much |
| 06:12.13 | rocketmagnet | ok - so i start into singleuser mode and come back to this channel |
| 06:12.16 | crazy2k_ | rozie: I know. |
| 06:12.16 | wols | mrcarrot: several ways: a) depreciated flash64 plugin b)32bit plugin with nspluginwrapper c) swfdec or gnash |
| 06:12.18 | rocketmagnet | see ys |
| 06:12.21 | wols | rocketmagnet: no |
| 06:12.27 | *** part/#debian voss749 (~chatzilla@adsl-68-223-206-196.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:12.28 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 06:12.31 | crazy2k_ | stew: How do I know my monitor's framerate? |
| 06:12.37 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@46.115.17.58) |
| 06:12.57 | rocketmagnet | the strange thing is that the system completely hangs - so no num or shift keys are working, nor ctr-alt-ent |
| 06:12.59 | rozie | crazy2k_: rovclock -i will provide some details about memory and GPU clock |
| 06:13.04 | wols | crazy2k_: with a laptop, it's 50 or 60Hz always. TFTs too, CRTs more |
| 06:13.16 | rozie | and it may have shared memory... |
| 06:13.52 | crazy2k_ | rozie: I don't have that program. |
| 06:14.11 | tiphiid | find your monitor's framerate |
| 06:14.33 | wols | crazy2k_: the actually used framerate is in your X logs |
| 06:14.50 | wols | maybe xrandr shows it too. perhaps |
| 06:14.56 | rozie | crazy2k_: install it. it's in offical repo |
| 06:15.11 | wols | rocketmagnet: that doesn't show a refresh rate |
| 06:15.33 | crazy2k_ | (II) RADEON(0): Supported established timings: |
| 06:15.34 | crazy2k_ | (II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@60Hz |
| 06:15.47 | stew | crazy2k_: is it an LCD? |
| 06:16.17 | crazy2k_ | And glxgears gives me like 84 FPS. |
| 06:16.21 | crazy2k_ | It's an iBook G4. |
| 06:16.37 | mrcarrot | wols: as far as i know, there is no freebsd flash plugin.. so it would have to run with linux emulation. this is why i am asking if it is working |
| 06:17.05 | crazy2k_ | It's TFT. |
| 06:17.17 | stew | crazy2k_: older glxgears didn't sync to the monitor refresh rate. if you are running one of those, you can increase your 'performance' by making the glxgears window smaller |
| 06:18.02 | crazy2k_ | stew: Yes, now it shows like 200FPS. |
| 06:18.13 | wols | mrcarrot: kFreeBSD is only a freebsd kernel. your iceweasel is using Linux/GNU software. since flash is userland too, the same linux stuff will work |
| 06:18.17 | *** join/#debian sena001 (~sena3@host-115-150.kawo1.RWTH-Aachen.DE) |
| 06:18.23 | wols | so there is a flash plugin for kFreeBSD, no? |
| 06:18.54 | wols | mrcarrot: when you run debian/kfreebsd you aren't running BSD. at least not really |
| 06:20.25 | sena001 | hello all, after installing a program from source and linking 'ln -s /usr/bin/prog /path/prog' how to make this prog available in bash |
| 06:20.45 | sena001 | without writing the whole path |
| 06:21.08 | aypea[2] | I'd put such things in /usr/local/bin and what error are you getting? |
| 06:21.29 | wols | sena001: you already made a symlink, so what is the problem? |
| 06:21.32 | sena001 | ok good idea, actually no errors |
| 06:21.58 | aypea[2] | not of much help that :) |
| 06:22.06 | aypea[2] | so the answer is: it could be anything :) |
| 06:22.16 | sena001 | it is like its not installed not recognized from the environment or so |
| 06:22.26 | aypea[2] | there should be an error then |
| 06:22.34 | *** join/#debian Dion (~Dion@122.58.51.228) |
| 06:22.44 | sena001 | but you understand what i want |
| 06:23.03 | sena001 | i want just to write the name of the prog in the bash prompt |
| 06:23.07 | aypea[2] | if it's found but exits it, itself, might be lame and not produce an error, but that's a different issue and would require knowledge of the app. |
| 06:23.22 | Bushmills | sena001: why would you want to symlink a program which is already in /usr/bin/ ? |
| 06:23.23 | aypea[2] | when you type it in a bash prompt, do you get an error? |
| 06:23.30 | aypea[2] | bush: it's not. |
| 06:23.38 | sena001 | and it will know that the symlink it in /usr/local/bin and from there in /home/usr/programs/prog |
| 06:23.41 | *** join/#debian Morten_ (~morten@2.107.15.157) |
| 06:23.51 | *** join/#debian Pikel (~xaero@ool-435056c7.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 06:23.58 | sena001 | i build it only with make |
| 06:24.03 | sena001 | no make install |
| 06:24.08 | Bushmills | aypea[2]: "... and linking 'ln -s /usr/bin/prog /path/prog' ..." |
| 06:24.19 | sena001 | so its build only in /home/usr/program/prog |
| 06:24.21 | *** join/#debian Matt_799 (~Matt@pool-108-18-214-57.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 06:24.34 | Pikel | is it possible to have apt-get/aptitude recursivly remove WM's that are going unused (such as KDE...) |
| 06:24.34 | *** join/#debian dekar (~dekar@drms-590ecc43.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 06:24.37 | aypea[2] | sena: compile it properly and install it properly first. then test. |
| 06:24.39 | sena001 | yes after that just linked to /usr/bin |
| 06:24.50 | Bushmills | sena001: aren't you confusing the order of arguments to ln -s ? |
| 06:24.56 | wols | !remove kde |
| 06:24.56 | dpkg | To remove or purge KDE: aptitude remove kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data libkdecore5. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 06:24.56 | Matt_799 | anyone want to video chat? http://tinychat.com/redditchat |
| 06:24.59 | sena001 | nope all good |
| 06:25.02 | *** join/#debian tonytraductor (~chatzilla@c-71-235-82-118.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 06:25.16 | aypea[2] | bush: ah. I read what he meant not what he typed >:) |
| 06:25.21 | Dion | attack lol |
| 06:25.32 | sena001 | aypea[2], it is compiled properly i have the binary in /home/usr/programs |
| 06:25.42 | aypea[2] | sena: did you install it? |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian DrMrHorse (~Charming@ool-44c67502.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 06:25.45 | sena001 | its actually rsync |
| 06:25.53 | sena001 | no i don't want to install it |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@adsl-108-193-97-52.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 06:26.07 | sena001 | i want to keep the binary in /home/usr.... |
| 06:26.17 | sena001 | but just put symlink in /usr/bin |
| 06:26.21 | sena001 | is it possible |
| 06:26.27 | aypea[2] | sena: configure it properly, compile, install and then test. |
| 06:26.36 | *** join/#debian otraoli (~otraoli@184-106-204-203.static.cloud-ips.com) |
| 06:26.38 | Bushmills | and read ln man page again |
| 06:26.41 | aypea[2] | sena: configure will let you specify where to install it. |
| 06:26.46 | *** join/#debian ealdor (~ealdor@140.Red-79-147-21.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 06:27.00 | vlt | Hello. What rsync option do I need to just compare contents of files and ignore owner or time? |
| 06:27.06 | *** join/#debian Dion (~Dion@inversible.com) |
| 06:27.06 | sena001 | the program is working when i put in the bash prompt /home/usr/programs/rsync/debian/buildtree/rsync |
| 06:27.16 | *** join/#debian justyb (~SXEman@66.99.48.125) |
| 06:27.16 | *** join/#debian allya (~troller@host170-0-static.45-85-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:27.16 | *** join/#debian PelvisRe (~Sparkle@host170-0-static.45-85-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:27.16 | *** join/#debian s0lamnia (~{GiBb0n}@65.211.187.57) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian candy15 (~Ehin@65.122.159.234) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian |iCE| (~marc@65.122.159.234) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian CRAZYONE (~sam-sam-@195.70.21.79) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian Hawaiian (~dreamthe@66.99.48.125) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian kris1 (~Taylor1@65.242.78.81) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian HARDER (~junior@static-68-236-176-181.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian zaxaroul (~LaTiNGaW@static-68-236-176-181.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian Hmmm (~blue@65.242.78.81) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian marc_ant (~bahumatz@67.133.189.34) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian candy (~howell@67-129-88-163.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian darkerth (~CheekyGu@67-129-88-163.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 06:27.17 | *** join/#debian 31NAAMGJF (~dewdrops@67.133.189.34) |
| 06:27.28 | *** join/#debian Marina (~RebelBoy@59.145.212.82) |
| 06:27.28 | *** join/#debian HeAtBOy (~Ch|no@85.105.7.244) |
| 06:27.28 | *** join/#debian Gigabit (~esmer@123.30.13.62) |
| 06:27.40 | sena001 | man i don't want to use the last step make install |
| 06:28.05 | sena001 | that moves the binary to /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin |
| 06:28.12 | *** join/#debian GAME (~Luisa@180.183.172.87) |
| 06:28.16 | aypea[2] | sena: not if you configure it properly. |
| 06:28.22 | sena001 | i want the same effect with just symlink |
| 06:28.41 | *** join/#debian mandolin (~Debbie@200.69.246.81) |
| 06:28.42 | *** join/#debian Playmate (~DJAGA@195.70.21.79) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian NixName (~kidDX@219.94.5.70) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian priti (~kermit@61.12.56.210) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian eva59 (~reshma@67.133.189.34) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian swin (~sabbyy@217.139.243.42) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian Wild_Guy (~Defco@65.211.187.57) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian BRUNO_55 (~eagle@217.139.243.42) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian WAKs (~kuzgun@217.139.129.214) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian babycake (~Alpha@217.139.129.214) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian |-FlipMo (~DrCode@65.211.187.57) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian bubbaweb (~spice@61.12.62.34) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian jamesbon (~HeAtBOy@61.12.62.34) |
| 06:28.43 | *** join/#debian ^mac1^ (~ass-hat@219.94.5.70) |
| 06:28.43 | aypea[2] | but anyway. your use of ln is also broken as bush has indicated. |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian sweetNsa (~certz@61.12.23.94) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian ansi (~coolguy@61.12.23.94) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian coco-e (~Gorth-@60.52.187.233) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian F1 (~Have3Cat@61.12.56.210) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian Paradidd (~henryx@61.163.164.227) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian idha (~Authenti@61.177.131.65) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian U2_one (~Kalyka@61.177.131.65) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian Jayla (~IrYsHs@61.12.21.250) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian evildrag (~poop@140.112.0.117) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian mysty (~GirL@61.12.0.46) |
| 06:28.44 | *** join/#debian fido (~mags@140.112.0.117) |
| 06:28.46 | sena001 | aypea[2], what do you mean to configure it properly |
| 06:28.53 | *** join/#debian male (~Sandyman@61.163.93.66) |
| 06:29.00 | *** join/#debian Stevenz (~Steven@inversible.com) |
| 06:29.14 | aypea[2] | sena: it has a 'configure' script in the src tree, right? |
| 06:29.35 | DrMrHorse | does a split |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian Greeneye (~GirL@61.12.23.94) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian billabon (~wrighty@ll81-2-78-61-192-81.ll81-2.iam.net.ma) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian CoreDump (~Flower@ll81-2-78-61-192-81.ll81-2.iam.net.ma) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian Ehin (~singh@60.52.187.233) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian spacecat (~silver@62.140.79.70) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian Playmate (~conan@62.140.79.70) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian marie20 (~Iz@ll81-2-18-202-192-81.ll81-2.iam.net.ma) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian bahumatz (~taz@ll81-2-18-202-192-81.ll81-2.iam.net.ma) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian RussianG (~DexterBo@ll81-2-18-202-192-81.ll81-2.iam.net.ma) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian Elconejo (~derftsru@84.235.50.21) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian H|GHcam (~troller@61.12.62.34) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian [S3cR3t] (~Firebird@host122-115-static.33-85-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian DragonFl (~kitos@host122-115-static.33-85-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian rainkiss (~KOoL@host122-115-static.33-85-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian wrighty (~mario@61.12.62.34) |
| 06:29.38 | *** join/#debian raggie (~aish@84.235.50.21) |
| 06:29.53 | aypea[2] | a horse doing a splits... sounds very wrong. |
| 06:29.55 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@2001:1470:faca:1502:3f:17fd:a9aa:5b42) |
| 06:29.59 | sena001 | aypea[2], ok i will check again |
| 06:30.02 | DrMrHorse | im amazing |
| 06:30.21 | *** join/#debian babycake (~DE-cYpHe@85-90-217-84.adsl.sta.poltava.velton.ua) |
| 06:30.25 | aypea[2] | sena: and always read the README or INSTALL docucments in a src package. quite useful stuff in there. |
| 06:30.25 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 06:30.38 | *** join/#debian Astanix- (~hexcite@190.26.91.173) |
| 06:30.38 | Stevenz | /ex |
| 06:30.43 | *** join/#debian Mp3S3v3r (~eva59@201.86.128.145.static.gvt.net.br) |
| 06:31.13 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 06:31.18 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 06:31.19 | *** join/#debian derchris (~derchris@78-86-128-162.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 06:31.31 | sena001 | aypea[2], i do it man |
| 06:32.15 | *** join/#debian mfladischer (~fladische@2001:470:1f0b:11df:2185:e63:b017:cb9e) |
| 06:33.37 | *** join/#debian ivo_ (~ivo@f049044226.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 06:33.47 | *** join/#debian Illuminatus (~us@backtrack/hispanic-community-member/illuminatus) |
| 06:33.49 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-104-112.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 06:33.49 | Illuminatus | hi |
| 06:33.58 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~dnai23@HSI-KBW-078-043-178-011.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 06:34.23 | tensorpudding | what packages provides Qt 4's source headers? |
| 06:34.42 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@ip-88-212-34-153.antik.sk) |
| 06:35.08 | tensorpudding | is it libqt4? |
| 06:35.47 | adminewb | all that I can find searching the web for linux-phc or phctool looks to me like it is not for the faint of heart, or someone expecting trouble free install and config |
| 06:36.20 | adminewb | can't find any basic documentation for them either |
| 06:36.47 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-104-112.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 06:36.58 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD49A90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:37.21 | sena001 | aypea[2], you were right i did not use ln properly |
| 06:37.54 | aypea[2] | sena: bush spotted it :) |
| 06:37.55 | sena001 | after creating the symlink good the program is automatically available in bash |
| 06:38.01 | sena001 | yeah :D |
| 06:38.14 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 06:39.01 | sena001 | thanks Bushmills |
| 06:40.53 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD49A90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:41.07 | sena001 | i was getting this output after the command: ln: creating symbolic link `/home/usr/programs/rsync/rsync-3.0.3/debian/buildtree/rsync': File exists |
| 06:41.13 | *** join/#debian McMAGIC--Copy (~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy) |
| 06:41.33 | sena001 | and just read creating symbolic link without noticing the error at the end |
| 06:41.49 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-184.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 06:42.11 | *** join/#debian DimmuR| (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 06:42.15 | aypea[2] | :) |
| 06:42.15 | sena001 | nice |
| 06:45.00 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 06:45.28 | *** join/#debian Parsifal (~steven@CPE-121-217-131-200.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 06:46.07 | *** join/#debian discozohan (~ogolovano@178.140.241.202) |
| 06:46.18 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.77.241.93) |
| 06:48.14 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@212-198-160-108.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 06:51.34 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@homestuck.iskon.hr) |
| 06:51.44 | *** join/#debian Meier (~cmaser@p7123e3d4.np.gmx.net) |
| 06:53.03 | *** join/#debian rdav (~rdav@247.40.70.115.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 06:53.04 | *** join/#debian odyi (~ody@puppetlabs/ps/odyi) |
| 06:53.57 | *** join/#debian on1ald (~ben@178-118-137-81.access.telenet.be) |
| 06:54.44 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 06:56.18 | *** join/#debian Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@184.91.132.0) |
| 06:57.38 | *** part/#debian rdav (~rdav@247.40.70.115.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 06:58.37 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 06:59.44 | *** join/#debian digdilem_ (~digdilem_@host86-133-31-80.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:59.55 | *** join/#debian B|ackbird (tanta@unaffiliated/backbird/x-3237639) |
| 07:00.09 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 07:00.52 | *** join/#debian honu (~kris@cpe-66-8-245-216.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 07:00.59 | ice799 | anyone know where i could find more information about adding interactive mode to my debian package? |
| 07:01.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1042] by debhelper |
| 07:01.08 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-104-112.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:01.08 | ice799 | i have a package but when it gets installed the user needs to select something |
| 07:01.23 | ice799 | ive seen other packages do this like postfix but not sure what it is called so dunno what to google |
| 07:01.31 | *** join/#debian anniex (~anniexx@41.155.98.13) |
| 07:02.16 | *** join/#debian totem (~mplayer@unaffiliated/totem) |
| 07:02.50 | *** part/#debian anniex (~anniexx@41.155.98.13) |
| 07:04.05 | *** join/#debian moumoul (~jerem@ANantes-557-1-172-100.w2-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:04.47 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 07:06.51 | *** join/#debian joo__ (~joo@85.235.246.106) |
| 07:08.05 | streuner | !postfix |
| 07:08.05 | dpkg | Postfix is a <MTA> originally created as an alternative to <sendmail>. It aims to be fast, secure, easy to administer and (relatively) sendmail compatible. Receiving "no mechanism available" with SASL when used as a SMTP client? Install the suggested libsasl2-modules package. Kyle Dent's Postfix FAQ: http://www.seaglass.com/postfix/faq.html . http://wiki.debian.org/Postfix http://www.postfix.org/ #postfix on irc.freenode.net. |
| 07:09.41 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 07:09.47 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@91.213.150.50) |
| 07:11.05 | *** join/#debian BartekKop (~IceChat77@212.182.119.50) |
| 07:11.27 | *** join/#debian thinksteve (~stephan@p579BD103.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:11.29 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 07:11.33 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~gmarselis@109.171.130.235) |
| 07:11.38 | *** part/#debian BartekKop (~IceChat77@212.182.119.50) |
| 07:11.47 | *** join/#debian patterson (patterson@c-24-4-180-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:12.39 | *** join/#debian no1 (~no-one@d347h.info) |
| 07:12.41 | *** join/#debian jujugre (~julienb@peniche.pck.nerim.net) |
| 07:12.43 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 07:15.57 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-104-112.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:16.19 | *** join/#debian D3JAVU (D3JAVU@46.162.200.120) |
| 07:16.48 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:17.14 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p5DF5B578.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:17.22 | *** join/#debian oznt (~BabartheK@blackhole.science-computing.de) |
| 07:17.49 | oznt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:18.03 | oznt | quit |
| 07:19.33 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 07:19.52 | *** join/#debian digdilem_ (~digdilem_@host86-133-31-80.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 07:20.09 | *** join/#debian oznt (~BabartheK@blackhole.science-computing.de) |
| 07:20.09 | DrMrHorse | hahahaha |
| 07:21.33 | fulgore | ouch, that sucks |
| 07:22.16 | *** join/#debian anniex (~anniexx@41.155.98.13) |
| 07:22.26 | *** join/#debian coolmadmax (~cool_code@client-203-166-108-62.net2000.com.au) |
| 07:23.52 | *** join/#debian grazymax (~grazymax@host8-154-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:24.45 | Illuminatus | anyway to monitor the backlog or get the current state of the queue? |
| 07:25.23 | jelly-home | Illuminatus: which queue? |
| 07:25.27 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:26.01 | *** join/#debian apt415 (~apt415@S01060026f3e131e8.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 07:26.10 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 07:26.20 | Illuminatus | jelly-home: hi, I wanna see the half-syn connection |
| 07:26.23 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 07:26.23 | *** join/#debian blinx (~blinx@78-62-154-73.static.zebra.lt) |
| 07:26.35 | Illuminatus | I would like to know when the backlog is almost full |
| 07:27.06 | jelly-home | I have no idea if it has exposure somewhere in /sys or /proc |
| 07:28.15 | *** part/#debian crazy2k_ (~pablo@unaffiliated/crazy2k) |
| 07:28.29 | Illuminatus | jelly-home: that's what I want. I'm looking in google with no results. |
| 07:28.38 | Illuminatus | thank you anyway |
| 07:29.09 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 07:30.09 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 07:31.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1049] by debhelper |
| 07:31.22 | *** join/#debian mariusv (~marius@tech.upsources.com) |
| 07:31.22 | *** join/#debian mariusv (~marius@fsf/member/mariusv) |
| 07:31.23 | *** join/#debian Delf (~Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 07:31.23 | *** join/#debian jaytaph (~jaytaph@83.232.96.217) |
| 07:31.23 | anniex | hello |
| 07:31.41 | anniex | i need a hacker to make $$ with me |
| 07:31.51 | *** join/#debian cga (~cga@cemitftp.mondadori.it) |
| 07:32.50 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slvmecha@c-24-91-117-140.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 07:32.54 | *** join/#debian phate408 (Phate@c-24-20-92-230.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:32.58 | *** join/#debian spark666 (~spark666@93.122.250.31) |
| 07:33.28 | spark666 | hello guys |
| 07:34.10 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 07:34.44 | spark666 | i tried to install debian from live dvd |
| 07:34.50 | spark666 | and i have a problem |
| 07:35.11 | *** join/#debian tremo (~tremo@wurzeldiener.jfreitag.de) |
| 07:35.24 | *** join/#debian digitalmortician (~digitalmo@77.245.31.55) |
| 07:35.44 | *** join/#debian hogem (~mk4306@hogem.us) |
| 07:35.57 | babilen | spark666: Please tell us more about your problem. Also: Why did you use the live DVD instead of the install CDs? |
| 07:36.00 | spark666 | when the installer reach the part :configuring apt its skips |
| 07:36.13 | spark666 | wait a second pls |
| 07:36.16 | babilen | !enter |
| 07:36.16 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 07:36.47 | *** join/#debian eSa| (~esa@host55-61-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:37.22 | spark666 | ok so why it skips,and after its all done,and i run apt-get update it ask me to enter the cd/dvd for the sources list |
| 07:37.57 | *** join/#debian kenifanying (~kenifanyi@2001:250:1003:f012:225:64ff:fe5e:2076) |
| 07:38.16 | *** join/#debian uestra (~lard@a89-182-130-179.net-htp.de) |
| 07:38.17 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 07:39.36 | *** join/#debian Lasers (~Lasers@unaffiliated/lasers) |
| 07:39.56 | *** join/#debian rdav (~rdav@247.40.70.115.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 07:40.56 | babilen | spark666: It skips what? Sorry, I have no experience with the live CDs and their squirks. You can easily add a repository to /etc/apt/sources.list though. Ask out bot .... |
| 07:41.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1058] by debhelper |
| 07:41.03 | babilen | spark666: Please do not /msg me |
| 07:41.09 | elninja | edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the line about the CD |
| 07:41.51 | babilen | spark666: ... about <squeeze sources.list>, <non-free sources> <contrib> <squeeze-updates> -- Also remove the entry for the CD/DVD |
| 07:42.05 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host242-67-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:42.07 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 07:42.20 | babilen | spark666: For example, do "/msg dpkg non-free sources" |
| 07:42.44 | spark666 | i understand,thank you.but i still dont understand why it skip that step..:P |
| 07:43.13 | *** join/#debian adminewb (~local@67-220-12-225.usiwireless.com) |
| 07:43.33 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 07:43.33 | babilen | spark666: As I said: I have no experience with the live DVDs and will not start to guess. |
| 07:43.48 | *** part/#debian rdav (~rdav@247.40.70.115.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 07:43.52 | spark666 | ok ,i`m sorry |
| 07:45.08 | babilen | spark666: No problem at all. If you could paste your /etc/apt/sources.list after you are done we can make sure it is correct. :) (paste to http://paste.debian.net ) |
| 07:45.21 | jelly-home | anniex: this isn't really a programming channel, this is more tech support for Debian |
| 07:46.36 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 07:46.49 | anniex | :) |
| 07:47.53 | kenifanying | hi , i run maxima in texmacs, and tick Mathematical input. but when i try this example " 1+1;" ， the output is "?", is a bug? sorry for my poor english. |
| 07:49.59 | *** join/#debian ragnar76_ (~ragnar@f050056216.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 07:50.02 | ragnar76_ | hi all |
| 07:50.05 | babilen | kenifanying: No idea. I would try to ask in #maxima or #latex -- they probably know more about that software. |
| 07:50.40 | anniex | ok jelly home |
| 07:50.43 | ragnar76_ | what's the package name of the kde control center in wheezy? it's not kcontrol or it's not in my repo :( |
| 07:50.56 | *** part/#debian anniex (~anniexx@41.155.98.13) |
| 07:51.06 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@2a02:6b8:0:408:c4c2:2b6a:e74c:2b7b) |
| 07:51.24 | *** join/#debian streuner (foobar@mnhm-5f74f2b6.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 07:51.29 | kenifanying | bailen, I have try #texmacs, but this channel only 3 people include me. I will try #maxima instead. thanks! |
| 07:51.37 | babilen | ragnar76_: Do you know the name of the program? |
| 07:51.52 | babilen | kenifanying: Good luck! |
| 07:52.28 | ragnar76_ | babilen: not really. i need to setup the kde them grey text on a grey background is not very readable :D |
| 07:52.38 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFC46B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:52.40 | *** join/#debian extor (~extor@c-76-16-36-19.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 07:52.48 | *** join/#debian fclddcn (~user@124.94.29.95) |
| 07:52.50 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 07:53.50 | babilen | ragnar76_: Hmm, /me never used KDE and I am not familiar with its packaging. The reason for my question was that it is easy to determine in which package a specific file is shipped. -- /msg dpkg apt-file -- so if you knew the name of the program that starts the control-center you can search for it easily. |
| 07:54.20 | babilen | ragnar76_: Another Idea would be to install one of the KDE metapackages as this will almost certainly include the kde control-center -- /msg dpkg install kde |
| 07:55.12 | babilen | ragnar76_: Installing the "kde-standard" task will definitely pull it in and I would be surprised if "kde-plasma-desktop" does not |
| 07:55.19 | *** join/#debian negge (~sam@cs109108025024.pp.htv.fi) |
| 07:55.26 | ragnar76_ | babilen: i'm not very familiar with kde too. i'm only using krename. i never saw a good renaming tool for gtk/gnome |
| 07:56.02 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host205-66-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:56.30 | *** join/#debian JulienBussi (~mouhahah@92.103.138.114) |
| 07:56.46 | babilen | ragnar76_: Ah, you are using a KDE/QT application *not* in KDE and it does not look good? |
| 07:57.07 | ragnar76_ | babilen: yes |
| 07:57.18 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 07:57.20 | babilen | ragnar76_: Well, I typically use "rename" to rename files. (man rename) |
| 07:57.23 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 07:57.43 | ragnar76_ | babilen: > 3000 files? ;) |
| 07:58.42 | *** join/#debian MarKsaitis (~MarKsaiti@195.59.185.18) |
| 07:58.44 | babilen | ragnar76_: Sure, why not? But http://www.infinicode.org/code/pyrenamer/ looks quite OK. |
| 08:00.49 | *** join/#debian NurIch_ (~NurIch_@137.226.154.136) |
| 08:01.00 | ragnar76_ | babilen: of course, i could build a "for i in *; bla bla foobar dosomething; done" contruct but clicking a few times with a mouse is much more convenient way |
| 08:01.12 | ragnar76_ | pyrename? i'll have look at it |
| 08:01.26 | *** join/#debian pif (~ldm@90.84.144.146) |
| 08:01.27 | ragnar76_ | brb |
| 08:02.31 | *** join/#debian head_band (~he@ip68-2-140-46.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 08:03.05 | *** join/#debian tiphiid (~tiphiid@24.121.121.6) |
| 08:03.07 | babilen | ragnar76_: Also take a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_QT_and_GTK_Applications -- the qtcurve theme is packaged in Debian as well. |
| 08:03.11 | ansgar | ragnar76_: If you use rename, you do not need to write a loop in shell. |
| 08:04.05 | babilen | ragnar76_: I find rename (as in "man rename") to be quite powerful, but YMMV |
| 08:06.10 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@46.216.84.141) |
| 08:09.11 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 08:09.23 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 08:09.36 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~martyd@tmo-106-210.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 08:09.37 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~martyd@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 08:09.50 | *** join/#debian rat (~rat409@bb-205-209-95-251.gwi.net) |
| 08:10.04 | avernos | is there any package similar to the ubuntu one like restricted extras. with flash, codecs and stuff? |
| 08:10.17 | ragnar76_ | babilen: i'll have a look |
| 08:10.43 | ragnar76_ | babilen: ymmv? |
| 08:10.45 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@r180-216-74-50.cpe.vividwireless.net.au) |
| 08:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1070] by debhelper |
| 08:11.13 | ragnar76_ | ansgar: i never used rename so far |
| 08:11.14 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 08:12.00 | *** join/#debian CptAcab (~CptAcab@host225-90-static.30-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:12.02 | ragnar76_ | avernos: whet ubuntu package? |
| 08:12.42 | *** join/#debian grok0 (~o~o@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 08:12.58 | avernos | ragnar76_, i think its called ubuntu restricted extras, is just a pack of desktop software tools, codecs flash, java |
| 08:13.20 | ragnar76_ | avernos: take a look at debian multimedia. in most cases yo will find the packages there |
| 08:13.32 | avernos | ragnar76_, ty |
| 08:14.00 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@79.109.195.222.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 08:14.00 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 08:14.43 | ragnar76_ | avernos: http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 08:15.01 | avernos | :D |
| 08:15.07 | *** join/#debian imgx64 (~imgx64@188.116.200.55) |
| 08:15.11 | oznt | does someone know how to enable this option AllowedAuthentications in openssh? |
| 08:15.45 | *** join/#debian _Qman (~Q@mail.dnavision.be) |
| 08:15.46 | *** join/#debian coolmadmax (~cool_code@client-203-166-108-62.net2000.com.au) |
| 08:16.50 | jelly-home | oznt: that sounds old. What exactly are you trying to do |
| 08:17.06 | *** join/#debian npoektop (~npoektop@85.202.112.90) |
| 08:17.42 | *** join/#debian larsivi (~quassel@228-29-232.connect.netcom.no) |
| 08:17.47 | oznt | hmm.. i want to prevent LOCKED users from loging into the machine with SSH keys... |
| 08:18.09 | oznt | at the moment it is possible, and i can't cancel the usage of key based auth |
| 08:18.15 | oznt | any idea? |
| 08:18.25 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@2a02:6b8:0:408:2537:1eab:32d6:5878) |
| 08:20.32 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 08:20.55 | *** join/#debian Moskito (~Moskito@77-57-185-193.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 08:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1076] by debhelper |
| 08:21.41 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 08:22.36 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 08:22.38 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 08:25.03 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@m229.dkm.cz) |
| 08:26.10 | *** join/#debian Woodi (~Woodi@hfy250.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 08:27.33 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 08:29.28 | *** part/#debian rat (~rat409@bb-205-209-95-251.gwi.net) |
| 08:29.41 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 08:31.31 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@unaffiliated/nixoeen) |
| 08:31.40 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 08:31.47 | *** join/#debian frankie (~frankie@lugbari/people/frankie) |
| 08:32.47 | *** join/#debian Raphaelt (~Raphael@ret08-1-88-182-200-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:33.07 | *** join/#debian Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 08:33.10 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 08:34.29 | *** join/#debian uestra (~lard@a89-182-130-179.net-htp.de) |
| 08:34.33 | *** join/#debian fairway (~fairway@91.137.72.169) |
| 08:35.47 | *** join/#debian jareth_ (~X@h180022.upc-h.chello.nl) |
| 08:37.07 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@151.83.68.220) |
| 08:37.21 | *** join/#debian krull (~mcroth@82.102.64.218) |
| 08:37.21 | *** join/#debian krull (~mcroth@unaffiliated/krull) |
| 08:37.41 | *** join/#debian LiENUS (quake@209.168.144.219) |
| 08:37.53 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 08:39.02 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 08:40.15 | *** join/#debian Delf1 (~Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 08:40.32 | *** join/#debian artwin (~art@make.lv) |
| 08:40.39 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 08:41.41 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 08:42.28 | *** part/#debian kenifanying (~kenifanyi@2001:250:1003:f012:225:64ff:fe5e:2076) |
| 08:44.00 | *** join/#debian c0nfl|ct (~tiagrei@83.240.134.68) |
| 08:44.21 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 08:44.25 | *** join/#debian seven| (~seven@pool-108-35-199-32.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 08:45.06 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 08:45.17 | *** join/#debian dc5ala (~dc5ala@stgt-5f70f9b3.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 08:45.48 | *** join/#debian jargon- (~dayo@unaffiliated/jargon-) |
| 08:50.10 | jmarsden | oznt: As a workaround, you could probably use a DenyUsers line in sshd_config instead? |
| 08:50.19 | *** join/#debian LiENUS (quake@209.168.144.219) |
| 08:50.26 | *** join/#debian zerodeux (~zerodeux@bearstech/zerodeux) |
| 08:50.36 | *** part/#debian grok0 (~o~o@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 08:51.01 | oznt | jmarsden, similar solution i have been suggested is to DenyGroups blocked-ssh |
| 08:51.14 | oznt | users who are locked are automatically added to that group |
| 08:51.26 | *** join/#debian grok0 (~o~o@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 08:51.29 | jmarsden | oznt: Oh, then sure, that way is easier to implement... |
| 08:51.42 | oznt | thanks for your attention though |
| 08:51.51 | jmarsden | You're welcome. |
| 08:53.21 | *** part/#debian DrMrHorse (~Charming@ool-44c67502.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 08:56.32 | *** join/#debian case__ (~case@46-129-85-178.dynamic.upc.nl) |
| 08:57.44 | *** join/#debian solairion_ (5142f26f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.66.242.111) |
| 08:58.13 | *** join/#debian dgm_077 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-93-109.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 08:58.23 | solairion_ | Hello every body i search to download debian 5 but it isn't in the archive and in the site of debian |
| 08:58.40 | *** join/#debian runev_ (~runev@25.62.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 08:58.42 | MrFrood | !lenny |
| 08:58.42 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for the current <oldstable> release, Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on 2009-02-15 and superseded by Squeeze as of 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 . Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>, <lenny release notes>, <install lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.8>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
| 08:59.01 | case__ | He guys, I need some advice. I want to install Debian Squeeze. I have one 500GB hdd and 3x 160GB hdd's that I want to put in RAID5. Should I a) install the system on the 500GB disk first and later add the RAID5 array? b) use LVM? |
| 08:59.02 | *** join/#debian achadwick (~achadwick@nat-alpha.ceu.ox.ac.uk) |
| 08:59.27 | case__ | open for discussion \o/ |
| 08:59.51 | syn4pse- | id use lvm if you plan on adding/removing drives in the future |
| 09:01.14 | *** join/#debian ziman (~ziman@functor.sk) |
| 09:01.16 | case__ | syn4pse-: this will probably be the last time the server is going into the datacenter, so I think i can skip LVM |
| 09:01.55 | solairion_ | MrFrood: i must obtain lenny because the squeeze is not functional with centreon (snmp) |
| 09:01.56 | *** join/#debian holmgren (~magnus@c-b7cfe455.011-326-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 09:03.01 | MrFrood | solairion_: /msg dpkg install lenny |
| 09:03.45 | *** join/#debian Python132o (~python132@unaffiliated/python1320) |
| 09:04.19 | *** join/#debian nlko (~user@li59-24.members.linode.com) |
| 09:04.33 | nlko | hi, what do i need to use to create a ssl cert on my apache2 server? |
| 09:04.58 | *** join/#debian Delf (~Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 09:05.26 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@247-50-223.ftth.xms.internl.net) |
| 09:05.36 | ziman | hello, I use KDE applications (Kopete, Kdevelop) outside KDE (I use fluxbox) on Debian Wheezy and since a ~month, these applications have stopped being oxygen-themed and use the default Qt plastique theme instead (which looks bad). I seem to have been unable to google anything related. Does anybody have a similar experience? |
| 09:06.31 | *** join/#debian Bauldrick (~5678@host81-156-53-127.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:07.05 | solairion_ | MrFrood: It's not good to install squeeze and go back to lenny, i prefer directly install lenny so i search a netinstall of lenny amd64 iso. |
| 09:08.22 | *** join/#debian wallblom_ (~niklasw@89-253-123-217.customers.ownit.se) |
| 09:08.23 | *** join/#debian badzo (57c70c74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.199.12.116) |
| 09:08.30 | badzo | hi |
| 09:08.50 | badzo | will apt-get remove iceweasel remove its browsing history as well? |
| 09:09.15 | telmich | badzo: probably not, because this is saved in the user's home directory |
| 09:09.29 | badzo | okay, thanks |
| 09:09.49 | badzo | i accidentally installed version 6 instead of 5 and want to change that:) |
| 09:09.50 | badzo | cheers! |
| 09:10.20 | *** join/#debian pk4r (~pk4r@78-57-145-242.static.zebra.lt) |
| 09:11.09 | pk4r | Hi, is there an easy way just to move ext4 partition from the middle to the beginning of hard drive ? i don't have access to gparted at the moment, only parted is present but it doesn't support ext4 in the meantime |
| 09:11.17 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 09:12.32 | *** join/#debian dobber (~dobber@213.169.45.222) |
| 09:13.03 | MrFrood | solairion_has quit but he seemed to of totally missedd the point of the install lenny factiod, the factoid seems clear to me but am I missing something, could it be made clearer? |
| 09:16.00 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 09:16.04 | *** join/#debian chalcedony (~llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony) |
| 09:16.27 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 09:18.19 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 09:18.19 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 09:18.29 | *** join/#debian reber (~reber@ns1.sylogix.net) |
| 09:18.52 | *** part/#debian fairway (~fairway@91.137.72.169) |
| 09:20.03 | reber | hi. How to refresh usb storage devices ? I explain : if i power up an external hd usb device *before* the pc, this device isn't recognised, and then i can't mount it. I have always to power it down and power it up again. Any workaround for this problem ? For example force to rescan usb devices ? |
| 09:20.40 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 09:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1082] by debhelper |
| 09:22.57 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 09:24.24 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 09:24.35 | *** join/#debian pierrep (~pierrep@126.146.202.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 09:24.38 | *** join/#debian evilgenius101 (~evilgeniu@115-186-159-72.nayatel.pk) |
| 09:24.44 | evilgenius101 | any help... http://tinypaste.com/be2315 |
| 09:26.18 | *** part/#debian pk4r (~pk4r@78-57-145-242.static.zebra.lt) |
| 09:26.43 | _Qman | evilgenius101: df -h? what is the space left on /var? or on / if you do not have a separated partition for /var |
| 09:28.36 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 09:29.06 | *** join/#debian danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 09:31.13 | *** part/#debian adminewb (~local@67-220-12-225.usiwireless.com) |
| 09:32.00 | martb | evilgenius101: I'm going to take a while guess that there's no space left on a device you're trying to write to |
| 09:32.13 | martb | wild guess, even |
| 09:33.20 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 09:35.56 | *** join/#debian rorkes (~toshlatec@dhcp-0-13-46-d2-ef-c7.cpe.mountaincable.net) |
| 09:37.04 | *** join/#debian alfadir (~alfadir@129.69.93.132) |
| 09:37.52 | *** join/#debian shahrius (~shahri@dslb-094-221-100-100.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:38.04 | *** join/#debian DeathNostril (~quag7@c-69-137-190-102.hsd1.az.comcast.net) |
| 09:38.24 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dyndsl-091-096-175-244.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 09:40.09 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~Daniele@host171-69-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:40.20 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~kusanagi@140.87.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 09:42.42 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@2.213.38.246) |
| 09:44.35 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@59.176.35.208) |
| 09:44.39 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 09:45.12 | *** join/#debian peterrooney (~peter@96.54.181.59) |
| 09:47.25 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 09:47.33 | *** join/#debian arosen (~arosen@130.127.39.173) |
| 09:49.27 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@82.131.67.152.cable.starman.ee) |
| 09:49.45 | *** join/#debian ayuask (~ayuask@186.221.154.144) |
| 09:52.14 | *** join/#debian troulouliou (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou) |
| 09:53.00 | troulouliou | hi is there security updates for iceweasel 4.0 in mozilla.debian.net ? latest blog post is a little bit confusing |
| 09:53.45 | *** join/#debian MrMind (~MrMind@90-231-155-23-no21.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 09:53.45 | *** part/#debian mrcarrot (~lasse@unaffiliated/mrcarrot) |
| 09:53.46 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@82.131.67.152.cable.starman.ee) |
| 09:56.21 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~Daniele@host160-68-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:58.42 | *** part/#debian ziman (~ziman@functor.sk) |
| 10:00.32 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 10:00.56 | *** join/#debian thiagoss (~thiagoss@189.71.100.100) |
| 10:03.20 | *** join/#debian smica_ (~smica@91.213.150.50) |
| 10:03.50 | *** join/#debian tobiasBora (~user@ALyon-551-1-12-231.w92-137.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:03.55 | tobiasBora | Hello ! |
| 10:04.36 | tobiasBora | I've a question : I would like to use oss keypmap in console mode. |
| 10:05.25 | tobiasBora | however, setxkbmap fr -variant oss doesn't work (only GUI) |
| 10:05.38 | tobiasBora | How could I use it in terminal ? |
| 10:06.21 | *** join/#debian D3JAVU (D3JAVU@46.162.200.120) |
| 10:06.42 | *** join/#debian squantrill (~simon@62-177-253-225.dsl.bbeyond.nl) |
| 10:06.43 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@2a01:e35:8a1c:7b20:214:85ff:fe32:af1d) |
| 10:06.44 | amphi | tobiasBora: loadkeys? |
| 10:08.25 | tobiasBora | amphi: yes, but which options ? I've try loadkeys fr -variant oss and I've an error. |
| 10:08.42 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 10:09.12 | *** join/#debian ketsa (~ketsa@adsl-84-226-227-167.adslplus.ch) |
| 10:10.37 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@unaffiliated/llua) |
| 10:10.46 | amphi | tobiasBora: or perhaps fiddle with /etc/default/keyboard if you have it |
| 10:10.50 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 10:12.26 | *** join/#debian sergiosanche (~sergiosan@85.52.192.128) |
| 10:12.28 | sergiosanche | hi |
| 10:12.40 | D3JAVU | hi |
| 10:12.57 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@178.131.78.230) |
| 10:13.10 | troulouliou | what is the best prog in debian squeeze repos to cut an mpeg file in several files ? |
| 10:13.55 | *** join/#debian Bartzy|work (~Bartzy@194.90.113.113) |
| 10:13.57 | amphi | troulouliou: you want each to be playable, or just split it into chunks? |
| 10:13.59 | ectospasm | troulouliou: I don't think it's in the repos, but tsmuxer may help. |
| 10:14.14 | *** join/#debian sphenxes01 (~sphenxes@85-127-168-128.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 10:14.37 | troulouliou | i recorded a 25 gigi file yeterday witn multimedia player , want to cut it in several files |
| 10:14.53 | troulouliou | and if possible beeing able to se a picture of where i m cutting |
| 10:15.01 | troulouliou | in gui if possible :) |
| 10:15.15 | amphi | perhaps Lives can do that |
| 10:15.30 | *** join/#debian beerbroy (~asfnet@p4FFFE9E8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:16.01 | troulouliou | ha ok checking thoe two progs |
| 10:16.03 | epsilon | I'd take virtualDub, but I guess it's Windows only? |
| 10:16.17 | streuner | only windows |
| 10:16.17 | troulouliou | yep think so |
| 10:16.36 | *** join/#debian Jippi (~jippignu@x1-6-60-33-4b-2e-fb-5c.k47.webspeed.dk) |
| 10:16.44 | ectospasm | troulouliou: yeah, tsmuxer will do it |
| 10:16.49 | ectospasm | ...it has a GUI |
| 10:16.51 | troulouliou | gnome subtitle has same features for subtitles so i guess this program exist |
| 10:16.57 | troulouliou | ectospasm, ha ok thanks |
| 10:17.09 | ectospasm | unfortunately I don't think it's in the repos |
| 10:17.18 | babilen | ,versions tsmuxer |
| 10:17.18 | judd | Package tsmuxer on i386 -- sid-multimedia/non-free: 1.10.6-0.0; squeeze-multimedia/non-free: 1.10.6-0.0; wheezy-multimedia/non-free: 1.10.6-0.0 |
| 10:17.29 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@215.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 10:17.33 | streuner | !judd, versions avidemux |
| 10:17.35 | babilen | It is in Debian Multimedia -- /msg dpkg dmm -- /msg dpkg dmm sources |
| 10:17.35 | tobiasBora | amphi: what I've to do with this file (it exist) |
| 10:18.09 | tobiasBora | amphi : I've : XKBMODEL="pc105" XKBLAYOUT="fr" XKBVARIANT="oss" XKBOPTIONS="compose:rwin,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" |
| 10:18.09 | tobiasBora | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.24 | streuner | troulouliou: try avidemux too, its a videoeditor written in GTK |
| 10:19.09 | troulouliou | streuner, ok thanks too |
| 10:20.15 | streuner | judd, versions avidemux |
| 10:20.17 | judd | Package avidemux on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia: 1:2.5.4-0.3squeeze1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.5.5-0.0; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.5.5-0.0 |
| 10:20.38 | *** join/#debian [diablo] (~diablo@unaffiliated/miles/x-000000001) |
| 10:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1088] by debhelper |
| 10:21.06 | [diablo] | afternoon #debian ..... does anyone know if there is a support channel for apt ? |
| 10:21.15 | troulouliou | streuner, i have read in a mag about a nice GUI frontend for ffmpeg , are you aware of such a tool , i m not against cmd line but for those kind of tool i m more at ease with gui |
| 10:21.33 | alfadir | troulouliou: check cinelerra ? |
| 10:21.44 | themill | [diablo]: your distro's support channel, unless you mean apt development itself. |
| 10:21.51 | troulouliou | alfadir, no will do now |
| 10:21.54 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@athedsl-366937.home.otenet.gr) |
| 10:22.16 | *** join/#debian White_R (~bruno@host129-92-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:22.29 | *** join/#debian krion (~seb@unaffiliated/krion) |
| 10:22.48 | [diablo] | hi themill ... well I want to do some python dev. that needs to work with apt... I want to find how I can get apt to show me all installed packages on a system... normally I use dpkg, however Ubuntu does not ship with a python library to handle dpkg |
| 10:22.52 | *** part/#debian White_R (~bruno@host129-92-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:23.02 | *** join/#debian kyansaa (~kyansaa@123.241.97.84.rev.sfr.net) |
| 10:23.22 | Bartzy|work | Hi, |
| 10:23.28 | digdilem_ | i have a squeeze machine on a lan. It can't ping the gateway although it can ping everywhere else. route shows the gateway as the default UG. There's no physical issue. Anyone have any ideas why it can't ping that one box? (No firewall btw) |
| 10:23.41 | Bartzy|work | Why CRLs have expiry dates ? Why not just let them live forever, until they're replaced with a new one ? |
| 10:24.24 | troulouliou | digdilem_, double ip on the same lan , check the arp cache |
| 10:24.27 | troulouliou | on the gateway |
| 10:24.49 | digdilem_ | thx, checking |
| 10:24.50 | *** join/#debian zhanshime (~zhanshime@218.201.103.155) |
| 10:26.37 | *** join/#debian totem (~mplayer@unaffiliated/totem) |
| 10:27.25 | *** join/#debian flash_ (~digdilem_@host86-133-31-80.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:27.31 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 10:27.49 | streuner | troulouliou: no |
| 10:29.40 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@187.127.77.251) |
| 10:29.40 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 10:30.54 | streuner | troulouliou: there is little nice tool, handbrake :-) |
| 10:31.14 | troulouliou | ?? |
| 10:31.29 | streuner | dpkg, info handbrake-gtk |
| 10:32.06 | *** join/#debian nlko (~user@li59-24.members.linode.com) |
| 10:32.25 | *** join/#debian grindhold_ (~quassel@188-193-45-174-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 10:32.56 | flash_ | troulouliou, thank you. indeed, the router is storing that server's mac under a different ip. If I change the ip to the one the router things it should be, it works. Now to find out why... |
| 10:35.29 | troulouliou | digdilem_, just listen on the iface ith thshark or tcpdup for arp traffic |
| 10:35.44 | digdilem_ | gotcha |
| 10:36.05 | *** join/#debian alfa_y_omega (~alfa_y_om@90.166.231.220) |
| 10:36.43 | *** join/#debian m3asmi (~rachid@197.253.190.37) |
| 10:36.46 | *** join/#debian hoverfly (~me@host-219-70-196-43.dynamic.kbtelecom.net) |
| 10:36.53 | troulouliou | arp entries are refresshed every 30 sec by default (if i remember well) , so if you didn't add a static entry , the ghost host is still alive |
| 10:36.55 | *** part/#debian m3asmi (~rachid@197.253.190.37) |
| 10:37.49 | *** join/#debian katsrc (~quassel@cpe-69-203-198-189.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 10:38.09 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 10:38.09 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 10:38.14 | themill | ,info handbrake-gtk --release squeeze-multimedia |
| 10:38.15 | judd | Package handbrake-gtk (graphics, extra) in squeeze-multimedia/i386: versatile DVD ripper and video transcoder (GTK GUI). Version: 0.9.5-0.1; Size: 3391.9k; Installed: 8656k; Homepage: http://www.handbrake.fr/ |
| 10:38.26 | *** join/#debian tux0 (tux0@d118-75-242-224.col.wideopenwest.com) |
| 10:38.27 | themill | troulouliou: ^^ that's what streuner was after earlier. |
| 10:38.30 | *** join/#debian Woodi (~Woodi@hfy250.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 10:38.48 | troulouliou | yes tanks , tought it was a joke ... :) |
| 10:39.11 | streuner | hm, that might explain why dpkg showed no output |
| 10:39.54 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@2a02:6b8:0:408:2537:1eab:32d6:5878) |
| 10:40.13 | themill | streuner: wrong bot, wrong distribution, ... where else could it go wrong? |
| 10:40.40 | Rienzilla | Hmm |
| 10:41.04 | *** join/#debian fti (~nnscript@213.164.69.193) |
| 10:41.07 | *** join/#debian abdelkhalak (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.71) |
| 10:41.20 | Rienzilla | why does the kexec from kexec-tools-2.0.1-4 for mips not accept an --initrd option... |
| 10:41.25 | *** join/#debian abdelkhalak (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.71) |
| 10:41.46 | *** join/#debian abdelkhalak (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.71) |
| 10:42.19 | *** join/#debian angiloo (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.71) |
| 10:42.39 | *** join/#debian angiloo (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.71) |
| 10:43.04 | *** join/#debian angiloo (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.71) |
| 10:45.49 | *** join/#debian ange1 (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.62) |
| 10:46.13 | *** join/#debian ange1 (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.62) |
| 10:46.38 | *** join/#debian ange1 (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.62) |
| 10:47.00 | *** join/#debian ange1 (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.62) |
| 10:47.22 | *** join/#debian ange1 (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.62) |
| 10:47.32 | Seb | what would cause my wlan0 to be ifdown'ed when I suspend the laptop ? |
| 10:47.44 | *** join/#debian ange1 (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.62) |
| 10:48.05 | *** join/#debian ange1 (~abdelkhal@41.137.63.62) |
| 10:48.06 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 10:48.08 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@41.137.63.*$##fix_your_connection] by themill |
| 10:48.10 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 10:48.12 | *** join/#debian feilei (~god@60.212.132.187) |
| 10:48.29 | *** join/#debian manitou (~manitou@3e6b9981.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 10:48.50 | *** join/#debian tzily (~cream@fiberlink-113-207.curteadearges.rdsnet.ro) |
| 10:49.11 | tzily | hello, is there any way i could get a list of subfolder names from a deleted folder ? like from the logs or something |
| 10:49.15 | *** join/#debian imgx64 (~imgx64@188.116.200.55) |
| 10:49.57 | nlko | hi guys, im trying to get ssl working on apache on debian, my vhosts work fine, but over 443 i get "peer has invalid cert" error |
| 10:50.25 | *** join/#debian Bartzy|work (~Bartzy@194.90.113.113) |
| 10:51.37 | *** join/#debian frederick (~frederick@ppp-205-24.26-151.libero.it) |
| 10:52.35 | themill | dpkg: tell tzily about cross-post |
| 10:53.50 | tzily | sorry |
| 10:54.10 | *** join/#debian feilei (~god@60.212.132.187) |
| 10:54.11 | tzily | i thought there were different users here |
| 10:54.19 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 10:54.29 | *** join/#debian MarKsaitis (~MarKsaiti@195.59.185.18) |
| 10:54.43 | babilen | tzily: And I am not aware of any log like that. |
| 10:55.26 | themill | tzily: you should also ask in the appropriate channel (i.e. #ubuntu) not in every random channel you've heard of. |
| 10:56.33 | digdilem_ | troulouliou, follow up. Wasn't an ip conflict. The router had that ip reserved with a different mac for dhcp reservation, so wasn't listening to any other macs using it. |
| 10:56.45 | digdilem_ | thanks for your help, that pointer was a good one |
| 10:57.50 | *** join/#debian eAndrius (~andrew@motoko.sutas.eu) |
| 10:57.59 | troulouliou | digilink, sounds fair , in ip conflict cause with default value you have generally connection with sloxdown / short interuption |
| 10:58.21 | tzily | Digdilem yea and ubuntu is centos based distro |
| 10:58.23 | *** join/#debian Sweetshark (~bjoern@port-17397.pppoe.wtnet.de) |
| 10:58.23 | *** join/#debian Sweetshark (~bjoern@canonical/sweetshark) |
| 10:58.30 | tzily | thanks babilen |
| 10:58.34 | *** part/#debian tzily (~cream@fiberlink-113-207.curteadearges.rdsnet.ro) |
| 10:59.26 | *** join/#debian Nu^253r (~LessIsMor@2.176.133.67) |
| 10:59.37 | *** join/#debian nyl (me@92.83.121.85) |
| 10:59.43 | rypervenche | How can I add a line of text to the top of a file in the command line? Like using (echo "test" >> file) but at the beginning instead of the end. |
| 11:01.29 | digdilem_ | rypervenche, I don't know of a way, other than echo your command to a new file, cat the contents of the first >> it, and then rename it over the first |
| 11:01.55 | rypervenche | digdilem_: Ok, that works I suppose. Thank you. |
| 11:02.02 | digdilem_ | it's ugly, i know |
| 11:02.25 | rypervenche | Well, what works works, it's only a few extra lines for the same result. |
| 11:02.36 | *** join/#debian mia20UK (mia20UK@94.197.73.96.threembb.co.uk) |
| 11:02.44 | mia20UK | hey! any guys for Skype?x |
| 11:02.45 | *** join/#debian nardev (~nardev@92.36.209.12) |
| 11:03.42 | abrotman | mia20UK: isn't there a #skype? |
| 11:04.08 | *** join/#debian blackshirt (~najwa@203.78.122.80) |
| 11:04.12 | mia20UK | is there? |
| 11:04.19 | mia20UK | i don't think so :( |
| 11:04.19 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 11:04.52 | mia20UK | yeah there are several but quite lame |
| 11:04.58 | mia20UK | like 5 users in them |
| 11:05.21 | *** join/#debian Sashi_ (~Sashi@S0106485b39e8054d.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 11:05.31 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:06.28 | themill | mia20UK: perhaps you want to find a social channel like #defocus. |
| 11:07.20 | niklaswe | !command |
| 11:08.45 | *** join/#debian MIOW (~miow@nat223-248-205-109.tvoe.tv) |
| 11:09.08 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 11:09.32 | *** join/#debian jodeba (~debel@ip3.c198.obr248.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 11:10.29 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@pD9FC5B87.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:10.29 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 11:11.43 | blackshirt | still no sound on my debian system :( |
| 11:12.13 | *** join/#debian aidaho (~aidaho@21-107-134-95.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 11:12.57 | streuner | what happens if you using a live-CD? |
| 11:14.10 | blackshirt | streuner: it works normally |
| 11:14.24 | streuner | blackshirt: what kind of kernel use it? |
| 11:14.27 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 11:14.39 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 11:14.56 | streuner | blackshirt: grml, knoppix, ubuntu-live or Debian-live CD? |
| 11:15.46 | streuner | blackshirt: are you able to install the "old" working kernel again? |
| 11:15.53 | [diablo] | mmm , anyone know how to get apt to show all installed packages please? not aptitude ... |
| 11:16.02 | blackshirt | streuner: kernel from stock ubuntu live-cd |
| 11:16.40 | blackshirt | streuner: on process install other kernel |
| 11:16.59 | wols | [diablo]: dpkg -l |grep ^ii |
| 11:17.08 | *** join/#debian Sashi__ (~Sashi@S0106485b39e8054d.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 11:17.13 | [diablo] | wols, , nope sorry it has to be from apt |
| 11:17.22 | babilen | [diablo]: Why? |
| 11:17.23 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~Daniele@host253-66-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 11:17.23 | [diablo] | wols, as I need to write a python script to list all installed packages |
| 11:17.33 | babilen | wols: Use python-apt |
| 11:17.56 | babilen | s/wols/[diablo] |
| 11:18.03 | [diablo] | babilen, can't see any means of getting python-apt to list all installed packages :-( |
| 11:18.14 | babilen | [diablo]: http://apt.alioth.debian.org/python-apt-doc/ |
| 11:18.33 | *** join/#debian blackshirt1 (~najwa@203.78.122.118) |
| 11:18.34 | [diablo] | babilen, yep I did look through it earlier |
| 11:19.52 | *** join/#debian Anubisss (~anubisss@77.111.167.71) |
| 11:19.53 | *** join/#debian katsrc (~quassel@cpe-69-203-198-189.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 11:20.35 | *** join/#debian miguetan (~miguetan@237.242.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 11:21.02 | wols | [diablo]: fyi writing a python script doesn't give a reason why it has to be apt which displays it all |
| 11:21.14 | *** join/#debian Flash_ (~Digdilem@plague.digdilem.org) |
| 11:21.31 | [diablo] | wols, yes I know... but I would like to find a way of doing it (if possible) via apt |
| 11:21.56 | [diablo] | wols, also seems strange that apt (appears) not to keep a reference of installed packages |
| 11:22.02 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000) |
| 11:22.24 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@2a02:6b8:0:408:2537:1eab:32d6:5878) |
| 11:23.11 | wols | it does. somewhere. to keep up with autoinstalled stuff if nothing else |
| 11:23.30 | *** join/#debian Farmer_ (~Knecht_Ro@musketeer.stwwh.uni-jena.de) |
| 11:23.44 | babilen | [diablo]: No idea if it is the best way, but "cache = apt.Cache() \n installed = [pkg for pkg in cache if pkg.installed]" does what you want |
| 11:24.17 | [diablo] | babilen, will try, thank you |
| 11:25.05 | *** join/#debian Sashi__ (~Sashi@S0106485b39e8054d.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 11:25.11 | babilen | [diablo]: Err, make that "pkg.is_installed" not "pkg.installed" |
| 11:25.27 | *** join/#debian acemi (~acemi@unaffiliated/acemi) |
| 11:25.43 | [diablo] | babilen, many thanks dude! superb |
| 11:26.23 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.191.157) |
| 11:26.48 | *** join/#debian sigbon (~chatzilla@1.22.16.161) |
| 11:29.19 | *** join/#debian Raphaelt (~raphaelt@217.195.19.241) |
| 11:32.30 | *** join/#debian Sashi__ (~Sashi@S0106485b39e8054d.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 11:33.00 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone) |
| 11:34.01 | *** join/#debian elbing (~elbing@62.37.25.223) |
| 11:36.00 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 11:36.35 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 11:37.01 | nardev | does anyone know how to set length of possible password when cracking with john the ripper? |
| 11:39.00 | WormFood | what the hell happened to audacious2 in testing? It looks like shit now. WTF? |
| 11:40.01 | WormFood | oh, I see...that was nice of them to change the default interface without asking me. |
| 11:40.43 | WormFood | does anyone actually use the GTK interface for audacious? |
| 11:41.34 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@c-b21e3eab-74736162.cust.telenor.se) |
| 11:42.23 | *** join/#debian dawud (~dawud@55.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 11:43.25 | *** join/#debian ts_ (~ts@maintenance.concentrade.de) |
| 11:45.43 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 11:46.34 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 11:46.34 | *** join/#debian meise (~dm@3st.be) |
| 11:48.03 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 11:48.44 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 11:48.52 | *** join/#debian MadViking (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe8efb00-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 11:48.56 | *** join/#debian dougvann (~chatzilla@chest-dhcp-131-187-66-117.ls.oar.net) |
| 11:48.56 | *** join/#debian NBSuser (~irbis@94.28.37.22) |
| 11:49.41 | *** join/#debian Calyp (~Caly@unaffiliated/calyptratus-tzm) |
| 11:49.42 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@215.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 11:49.50 | *** join/#debian monkey (~kvirc@176.14.168.36) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#debian el_doggy[14] (~x3User172@95.191.168.41) |
| 11:50.01 | *** join/#debian satellit_ (~satellit@2002:d064:8d43:0:219:d1ff:fe73:14e6) |
| 11:52.17 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone) |
| 11:53.57 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@c-4f663cae-74736162.cust.telenor.se) |
| 11:55.11 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 11:57.14 | *** part/#debian flypp (~flypp@215.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 12:01.02 | *** join/#debian Raphaelt (~raphaelt@217.195.19.241) |
| 12:02.44 | *** join/#debian BCMM_ (~chatzilla@cpc4-oxfd21-2-0-cust297.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:03.05 | *** join/#debian BCMM_ (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/bcmm) |
| 12:03.51 | *** join/#debian susam (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 12:04.56 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430923.home.otenet.gr) |
| 12:05.09 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@pD9FC5B87.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:05.09 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 12:05.28 | BCMM_ | how can i install iceweasel 4 on squeeze? http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/iceweasel-4.0 is 404 even though the menu at http://mozilla.debian.net/ will help you point your sources.list that way |
| 12:05.50 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@ip90-6-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 12:05.50 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@unaffiliated/stefandevries) |
| 12:05.55 | themill | BCMM_: iceweasel 5.0 is available for squeeze; 4.0 is no longer available |
| 12:06.03 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 12:06.27 | BCMM_ | themill: thanks; looks like i failed to notice firefox 5.0 happening |
| 12:06.32 | *** join/#debian crus (~crusader@2001:44b8:7f2b:bec0::607:beef) |
| 12:06.45 | *** join/#debian spal (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 12:07.00 | BCMM_ | hooray for version number inflation. |
| 12:07.07 | themill | BCMM_: this only changed today/yesterday. If in doubt, check the mozilla.d.n web page |
| 12:07.47 | themill | ahh... I see that mozilla.d.n is still generating 4.0 sources.lists though. Oh well. |
| 12:08.07 | BCMM_ | i'd forgotten that they'd moved to faster version numbers; previously i'd have seen the news somewhere if there had been a major release of Fx |
| 12:08.17 | BCMM_ | themill: and 3.0 :) |
| 12:08.34 | *** part/#debian q1x (~qix@147-247-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 12:08.51 | themill | BCMM_: it tells you some things are unavailable though; it needs to do so for 4.0 now too |
| 12:09.08 | *** join/#debian bn` (~Patrick@unaffiliated/bn/x-6686386) |
| 12:10.50 | *** join/#debian jhoc (~jh@blk-222-3-74.eastlink.ca) |
| 12:10.59 | themill | dpkg, iceweasel backports is <reply> Backports of the iceweasel web browser are not available from <debian backports> as they have not yet made it to wheezy. See http://mozilla.debian.net/ for iceweasel 5.0 for squeeze, wheezy or sid. |
| 12:10.59 | dpkg | themill: okay |
| 12:11.39 | *** join/#debian Woodi (~Woodi@hfy250.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 12:11.39 | *** join/#debian uuid (~uuid@chili.Publizistik.Uni-Mainz.DE) |
| 12:12.35 | *** join/#debian leitaox (~leitaox@189.20.94.66) |
| 12:13.31 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 12:13.49 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@91.99.238.231) |
| 12:14.37 | *** join/#debian RobinJ (~Robin@109.132.160.119) |
| 12:14.39 | *** join/#debian RobinJ (~Robin@unaffiliated/robinj) |
| 12:16.39 | rypervenche | ,versions iceweasel |
| 12:16.40 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-5; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-6; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-7~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-7; sid: 3.5.19-2; wheezy: 3.5.19-2; experimental: 4.0.1-4 |
| 12:16.57 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 12:17.18 | *** join/#debian etorix_ (~etorix@p54B2BD7C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:17.25 | *** join/#debian neoclass (~neoclass@par69-8-88-161-100-113.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:20.23 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@89.146.180.168) |
| 12:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1095] by debhelper |
| 12:21.47 | *** join/#debian miguetan_ (~miguetan@237.242.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 12:22.34 | uuid | hi, I'm trying to install squeeze on a machine with a yet to be supported network card (sandy bridge, e1000e, driver apparently in 2.6.38). what is the recommended way to do this? I'd like to avoid building my own install medium |
| 12:22.54 | etorix_ | http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/defence-and-security-blog/2011/jun/20/nato-and-libya-and-gaddafi-and-airstrikes NATO has bombed libya 11,500 times., 11,500 sorties by their own account. This is NAKED AGRESSION AND TERRORISM |
| 12:23.07 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 12:23.09 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@84.178.189.124] by themill |
| 12:23.11 | *** kick/#debian [etorix_!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (You should know better) |
| 12:23.12 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 12:23.20 | *** join/#debian coolmadmax (~cool_code@client-203-166-108-62.net2000.com.au) |
| 12:23.38 | blackshirt1 | themill: my debian still no sound.. |
| 12:24.00 | themill | blackshirt1: at least you've got an excuse for ignoring emails as they come in then. |
| 12:24.05 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 12:25.03 | *** join/#debian blackshirt (~najwa@203.78.122.68) |
| 12:25.25 | *** part/#debian monkey (~kvirc@176.14.168.36) |
| 12:25.30 | *** join/#debian sphenxes01 (~sphenxes@85-127-131-94.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 12:27.28 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.191.157) |
| 12:27.31 | *** join/#debian homie (~levgue@xdsl-84-44-211-78.netcologne.de) |
| 12:27.45 | *** join/#debian bint (bint@cable-static-220-208.intergga.ch) |
| 12:28.48 | *** join/#debian mezod (nnscript@unaffiliated/mezod) |
| 12:29.24 | *** join/#debian rahul (~rjain@66-234-32-156.nyc.cable.nyct.net) |
| 12:29.35 | alfadir | have problems with logitech_g15, on newer debian sid, could it be that the XKBDMODEL="logitech_g15" does not work any more ? xorg 1:7.6+7 ..input-evdev 1:2.6.0-2+b1, udev 171-1, g15deamon 1.9.5.3-8.2 |
| 12:30.05 | alfadir | alternative model ? |
| 12:30.33 | alfadir | works in console |
| 12:31.20 | *** join/#debian Kobaz (~kobaz@its.kobaz.net) |
| 12:31.34 | Kobaz | what's a method i can use to just reboot a box without running through the shutdown sequence |
| 12:31.37 | Kobaz | just acpi reset |
| 12:31.47 | *** join/#debian kurkale6ka (~chatzilla@gatej.thls.bbc.co.uk) |
| 12:33.30 | petemc | sysrq + b |
| 12:34.12 | Kobaz | what about if you're not at the console |
| 12:34.30 | petemc | how will you be sending commands to this machine? |
| 12:36.29 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 12:36.29 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 12:36.43 | Kobaz | shutdown -f -n now -r |
| 12:36.45 | Kobaz | that did it |
| 12:38.13 | *** join/#debian `ph8 (~ph8@85.234.155.91) |
| 12:38.47 | *** join/#debian jeremym (~jsmartin@173-28-54-165.client.mchsi.com) |
| 12:39.10 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 12:39.15 | *** join/#debian Usuke (~Usuke@i58-89-96-104.s02.a022.ap.plala.or.jp) |
| 12:41.23 | *** join/#debian german_ (~german@r186-48-21-17.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 12:41.26 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 12:42.01 | *** join/#debian blackshirt1 (~najwa@203.78.122.85) |
| 12:42.21 | krion | hi |
| 12:42.35 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@bl9-245-57.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 12:43.03 | krion | can i shoot out an esthetic bug for module-init-tools |
| 12:43.30 | krion | -o for modprobe doesn't exist anymore, it doesn't show in the man, but it show in the usage |
| 12:43.37 | themill | dpkg: tell krion about reportbug |
| 12:43.48 | *** join/#debian HazardX (~HazardX3@pool-108-7-70-183.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 12:44.41 | *** join/#debian MrOpposite (~mropposit@unaffiliated/mropposite) |
| 12:44.44 | krion | don't have time yet for report... i'll do it when i got time |
| 12:44.48 | *** join/#debian FooMunki (~daronjone@5ac47332.bb.sky.com) |
| 12:44.50 | [diablo] | babilen, heading off... but MANY thanks for the help with the apt python ... works perfectly !!! ciao |
| 12:44.52 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 12:47.27 | *** join/#debian tawtaw (d59f0020@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.159.0.32) |
| 12:48.37 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@215.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 12:48.48 | *** join/#debian spacepup (~spacepup@l237186.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) |
| 12:48.56 | *** join/#debian DotHack (~larsmaes@80.112.206.46) |
| 12:49.25 | *** join/#debian rsr__ (~rsr@187.15.196.23) |
| 12:50.54 | *** join/#debian NurIch_ (~NurIch_@137.226.154.136) |
| 12:51.00 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@109.168.48.230) |
| 12:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1104] by debhelper |
| 12:52.44 | *** join/#debian ring0 (~ring0@unaffiliated/ring0) |
| 12:53.10 | tawtaw | could somebody help me identify the reason my apache server (httpd) is at 100% almost all the time, even after restarting the service |
| 12:53.23 | tawtaw | how do i figure out what a PID is acctually doing? lsof -p <pid> did not get me so fart |
| 12:53.28 | tawtaw | lol |
| 12:53.29 | tawtaw | far |
| 12:55.21 | cla | lol |
| 12:55.34 | *** join/#debian g0bl1n (~prokter@unaffiliated/g0bl1n) |
| 12:55.35 | cla | tawtaw: Do you run mod_php? |
| 12:55.50 | tawtaw | cla: yes |
| 12:55.53 | petemc | tawtaw: ls -la /proc/$PID/fd/* |
| 12:56.06 | *** join/#debian MrOpposite (~mropposit@unaffiliated/mropposite) |
| 12:56.48 | *** join/#debian sphenxes01 (~sphenxes@85-127-210-53.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 12:57.18 | *** join/#debian jonathas (~jonathas@187.13.163.148) |
| 12:57.20 | tawtaw | petemc: that kinda shows me t he same stuff that lsof did, which is basically that its logging |
| 12:57.24 | tawtaw | and has many files open |
| 12:57.29 | *** join/#debian ddan (~iacku@host230-237-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:57.35 | tawtaw | i have more then 200vhosts on that machine |
| 12:57.55 | *** join/#debian isaac1024 (~isaac1024@95.60.222.77) |
| 12:58.02 | *** join/#debian IceW (~old-times@189.56.21.197) |
| 12:58.02 | *** join/#debian IceW (~old-times@unaffiliated/icew) |
| 12:58.36 | petemc | maybe look at apachetop |
| 12:59.10 | tawtaw | petemc: good idea, ill install it :) |
| 12:59.17 | Radex | tawtaw: apache status module |
| 12:59.22 | *** join/#debian mcgreg (~pegasos@p5B161519.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:59.24 | mcgreg | hi |
| 12:59.38 | *** part/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 12:59.39 | mcgreg | is there any tool that can show me my power demand in a console? |
| 12:59.44 | petemc | powertop |
| 13:00.12 | mcgreg | petemc: the version I have installed either doesnt do it or I miss something |
| 13:00.35 | tawtaw | apachetop only looks at the access_log |
| 13:00.45 | tawtaw | dunno how that helps |
| 13:00.51 | mcgreg | PowerTOP 1.97 is what I have |
| 13:00.52 | *** join/#debian c2pLaY (~yep@unaffiliated/c2play) |
| 13:01.21 | *** join/#debian [1]danilom (~danilom@190.199.106.122) |
| 13:01.25 | petemc | mcgreg: you want to know how power in total your machine is drawing? |
| 13:01.31 | *** join/#debian Jurkki (~jukka@a91-156-172-94.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 13:01.31 | tawtaw | specially since my access_logs are scattered all over the place cos im using vhosts |
| 13:01.43 | *** join/#debian joe6 (~joe6@c-76-20-251-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 13:02.02 | *** join/#debian crypted (~doobie@ip72-198-74-111.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 13:02.11 | *** join/#debian ayambit (~chatzilla@dev-174.nic.ru) |
| 13:02.19 | mcgreg | petemc: I want to have something like the gnome-power-manager , but for the console.- it should you online the current power demand |
| 13:02.57 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@230.48.168.109.dsl.static.ip.kpnqwest.it) |
| 13:04.25 | *** join/#debian Evil_Otto (~no@unaffiliated/evilotto) |
| 13:05.19 | *** join/#debian wallblom_ (~niklasw@89-253-123-217.customers.ownit.se) |
| 13:06.14 | *** join/#debian tech13 (~tech13@adsl-99-18-51-150.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:06.32 | tawtaw | can i minimize the amount of work that apache does somehow? |
| 13:06.41 | *** join/#debian Dragon_X (~Dragon_X@gw.paraibuna.com.br) |
| 13:06.48 | tawtaw | so that my cpu stops peaking all the time |
| 13:07.31 | abrotman | you should probably see what it's doing instead |
| 13:07.38 | stew | tawtaw: is it really the cpu? or is it io load? |
| 13:07.41 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@2a01:e35:2ef5:dce0:213:e8ff:fe8a:42d9) |
| 13:07.48 | *** join/#debian Monotoko (~monotoko@027dee90.bb.sky.com) |
| 13:09.22 | tawtaw | stew: i have like 8 processes all httpd which are like 19.9% |
| 13:09.32 | tawtaw | stew: sometimes one process has 99% |
| 13:10.04 | stew | tawtaw: yeah, you really have to to fiugre out what they are doing |
| 13:10.22 | tawtaw | stew: could be that i have a load this high, as i stated i have ~200-260 websites hosted on that machine. but the problem is that my mailserver is not sending mail properly because the cpu is spiking so high. |
| 13:10.33 | stew | tawtaw: there are things that can be done to get marginal speed improvements, like using an opcode cache, but they are really going to be marginal |
| 13:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1118] by debhelper |
| 13:11.00 | stew | tawtaw: if there is a particualar process that is constantly up in the top, strace it perhaps |
| 13:11.29 | tawtaw | stew: is it possible to strace something thats running? i have only used strace like this 'strace <command> |
| 13:11.41 | stew | tawtaw: yes, with -p |
| 13:11.49 | tawtaw | thanks! |
| 13:12.03 | *** join/#debian clinton (~clinton@110-175-13-23.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 13:12.18 | joe6 | anyone using graft? I use stow and am wondering if "graft" is better? |
| 13:12.34 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 13:12.41 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 13:12.54 | clinton | hi, is there documentation on how to get USB automounting working on debian squeeze in gnome? I'm getting "unable to mount ... not authorized" when inserting usb devices in gnome. I am in the plugdev group. |
| 13:13.22 | clinton | or other than documentation, does anyone have any ideas about how to do this? |
| 13:13.26 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 13:13.30 | tawtaw | stew: cool this is very useful :) looks like its just doing php related stuff |
| 13:13.53 | tawtaw | i might just need to get myself another server and move some stuff over to it |
| 13:13.54 | *** join/#debian oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) |
| 13:14.15 | stew | tawtaw: yeah, well hopefully it will at least point to which php files are causing the most load |
| 13:14.38 | stew | tawtaw: perhaps some of the stuff the heavier php pages are doing could be cached with memcache or similar |
| 13:14.51 | *** join/#debian rtui (~rga@80.Red-83-32-247.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:15.27 | rtui | Hi, some tools like wicd etc, show my distance from ap like "45%, 80%" etc, how can I extract those values using command line? |
| 13:16.45 | *** join/#debian manitou (~manitou@3e6b9981.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 13:16.45 | *** join/#debian stepkrav (~null@46-77-227.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 13:16.53 | tawtaw | stew: not sure how to determain what php files are causing the load. :"/ |
| 13:16.57 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@r180-216-74-50.cpe.vividwireless.net.au) |
| 13:17.09 | llutz | rtui: iwconfig |grep "Link Quality" |
| 13:17.17 | stew | rtui: look at "Quality" in "iwlist scan" |
| 13:18.06 | *** join/#debian ciphernaut (~proxy@59.167.220.214) |
| 13:18.21 | *** join/#debian pokkerface (~quassel@r190-134-39-126.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 13:19.09 | rtui | ok thank you |
| 13:19.28 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 13:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1126] by debhelper |
| 13:23.42 | *** join/#debian weaseal (~weaseal@unaffiliated/weaseal) |
| 13:23.49 | *** join/#debian tenthirteen (~ten13@c-68-52-151-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 13:23.49 | *** join/#debian tenthirteen (~ten13@unaffiliated/tenthirteen) |
| 13:24.32 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 13:25.32 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 13:27.06 | *** join/#debian sphenxes02 (~sphenxes@85-127-207-105.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 13:27.14 | *** join/#debian hybridark (~hybridark@187.13.163.148) |
| 13:27.54 | *** join/#debian smhar (~salman@46.42.99.196) |
| 13:28.09 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-184.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 13:29.47 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@230.48.168.109.dsl.static.ip.kpnqwest.it) |
| 13:30.23 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 13:30.25 | *** join/#debian hybridark (~hybridark@187.13.163.148) |
| 13:30.56 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@230.48.168.109.dsl.static.ip.kpnqwest.it) |
| 13:31.28 | *** join/#debian lanthan (~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:31.36 | *** join/#debian hybridark (~hybridark@187.13.163.148) |
| 13:32.19 | *** join/#debian LiENUS (quake@209.168.144.219) |
| 13:32.46 | *** join/#debian Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc8-reig4-2-0-cust24.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:33.58 | *** join/#debian lanthan (~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:35.04 | *** join/#debian hybridark (~hybridark@187.13.163.148) |
| 13:37.54 | *** join/#debian chattr (~mike@94.166.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 13:39.44 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@89.165.28.32) |
| 13:40.14 | *** join/#debian blackshirt (~blackshir@203.78.122.96) |
| 13:41.36 | *** join/#debian poisonbit (~poisonbit@83.173.180.250.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 13:43.47 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@215.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 13:43.59 | *** join/#debian monkey (~kvirc@176.14.168.36) |
| 13:45.15 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@109.168.48.230) |
| 13:45.59 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~smaug9@h-68-164-75-226.sfldmidn.static.covad.net) |
| 13:46.18 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 13:48.10 | *** join/#debian ozux (~ozux@77.238.59.39) |
| 13:49.20 | *** join/#debian ozux (~ozux@77.238.59.39) |
| 13:49.58 | *** join/#debian Anubisss (~anubisss@77.111.167.71) |
| 13:50.09 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 13:50.09 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 13:50.40 | *** join/#debian ksheurs (~sheursk@nyv-exweb.iac.com) |
| 13:56.38 | *** join/#debian derchris (~derchris@78-86-128-162.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 13:59.35 | *** join/#debian seven| (~seven@pool-108-35-199-32.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:59.35 | *** join/#debian h2oman (~h2oman@72.130.18.149) |
| 13:59.37 | *** join/#debian Guest80423 (~admin@ppp201-15.static.internode.on.net) |
| 14:01.16 | *** join/#debian Hobart (jon@fsf/member/Hobart) |
| 14:01.16 | *** join/#debian Antilect (~Antilect@90-229-197-56-no150.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 14:01.16 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@187.132.132.42) |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian Mostoles (~chatzilla@233.Red-81-32-118.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:01.19 | Mostoles | you have seen this timelapse of how you build the supercomputer Magerit Spain the most powerful? |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian Gm4n_ (~Gm4n@threadsnake.kicks-ass.net) |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian debhelper1 (~debhelper@rzlab.ucr.edu) |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian debhelper (~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper) |
| 14:01.19 | *** mode/#debian [+o debhelper] by ChanServ |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian jeremym (~jsmartin@32.97.110.55) |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian F0lk___ (~TheY@p5DF3D292.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:01.19 | Mostoles | this is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd6IipXAWSU |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian tgies_ (~tgies@wopr.omaha.tgies.net) |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian miguetan (~miguetan@237.242.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian kytv (~kytv@gateway/tor-sasl/killyourtv) |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@2a02:6b8:0:408:2537:1eab:32d6:5878) |
| 14:01.19 | *** join/#debian fignew (~woowoo@user-11214mq.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 14:01.20 | poisonbit | Mostoles, does it run Debian ? =) |
| 14:01.20 | *** join/#debian mgalvin (~mgalvin@unaffiliated/mgalvin) |
| 14:01.20 | *** join/#debian ferr (~ferr@vfmw0.neptun.6net.hu) |
| 14:01.20 | Mostoles | debian is not compatible with ppc |
| 14:01.20 | abrotman | Mostoles: yes it is |
| 14:01.20 | stew | Mostoles: sure it is |
| 14:01.20 | Mostoles | an all the hardware that habe the blades |
| 14:01.20 | Mostoles | have |
| 14:01.21 | abrotman | Mostoles: anything else? |
| 14:01.21 | *** join/#debian wissem (~wissem@unaffiliated/wissem) |
| 14:01.21 | blackshirt | not compatible ? |
| 14:01.21 | stew | http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ |
| 14:01.21 | Mostoles | this blades are ps702 |
| 14:01.21 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1131] by debhelper |
| 14:01.21 | *** join/#debian XLV (~XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) |
| 14:01.21 | *** join/#debian Xerrao (~XRO@synergy.serv.xdk2.net) |
| 14:01.23 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@230.48.168.109.dsl.static.ip.kpnqwest.it) |
| 14:01.52 | *** join/#debian Cain` (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 14:02.02 | *** join/#debian cromag (cromag@er.kun.lidt.b0s.dk) |
| 14:02.02 | *** join/#debian cromag (cromag@irssi/user/cromag) |
| 14:02.35 | *** join/#debian jbaptiste_j (~mail@193.49.207.193) |
| 14:02.51 | *** join/#debian Phil-Work (~phil@87.84.128.98) |
| 14:03.53 | *** join/#debian breardo (~breardo@234-200-29-134.hcc.mnscu.edu) |
| 14:04.24 | breardo | hello all... im running Debian Wheezy amd64, fresh install from yesterday... at the console, I continually get "INIT: Id "co" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes" errors.. |
| 14:04.35 | breardo | I googled it, and disabled extra ttys in the inittab file, but the problem persists |
| 14:04.46 | breardo | this is a console-only box (X installed, but not running) |
| 14:05.21 | breardo | any tips on getting this to stop? |
| 14:06.24 | *** join/#debian Eno_ (~Eno@static-storm.com) |
| 14:07.35 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@215.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 14:07.47 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~martyd@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 14:07.54 | *** join/#debian Paul_E (~paul@67-200-235-82.static.logixcom.net) |
| 14:10.04 | Paul_E | Greetings all--when upgrading kernel security updates, should a debian server be rebooted? How do I know when a reboot is a good idea after updates? |
| 14:11.34 | Eno_ | Are you using Ksplice? |
| 14:11.40 | wols | when the kernel gets replaced |
| 14:11.49 | *** join/#debian psycodad (~cschnee@2001:4060:4419:b1:202:a5ff:fe84:e21c) |
| 14:11.58 | blackshirt | Paul_E: for some times..i think reboot was a good idea if security is your concerns.. |
| 14:12.13 | *** join/#debian mozzwald (~www.mozzw@c-71-239-236-121.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 14:12.21 | blackshirt | but we can have rebootless kernel with ksplice |
| 14:12.30 | *** join/#debian delYsid (~user@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 14:12.34 | *** join/#debian delYsid (~user@debian/developer/mlang) |
| 14:13.43 | *** join/#debian jannic (~jan@volga.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE) |
| 14:14.23 | *** join/#debian CyrusB (cyrusb@cmr-208-124-165-82.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 14:16.03 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 14:16.45 | breardo | any tips on getting "INIT: Id "co" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes" errors to stop? |
| 14:18.57 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 14:19.05 | stew | breardo: what does "grep ^co /etc/inittab" return? |
| 14:19.12 | *** join/#debian sllide (~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 14:19.16 | *** join/#debian benf (~benf2004@unaffiliated/benf2004) |
| 14:19.35 | breardo | co:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty hvc0 9600 linux |
| 14:20.13 | stew | breardo: what happens when you run "/sbin/getty hvc0 9600 linux" ? |
| 14:20.44 | *** join/#debian extraclassic (~jbarnett@64.238.252.50) |
| 14:20.47 | stew | wait |
| 14:20.51 | breardo | it executes, but doesnt return me to a prompt until ^C |
| 14:21.04 | stew | shouldn't that be /sbin/getty hvc0 9600 linux ? |
| 14:21.09 | stew | err |
| 14:21.13 | stew | shouldn't that be /sbin/getty 9600 hvc0 linux ? |
| 14:21.27 | breardo | im not sure |
| 14:21.33 | breardo | i'll rotate it if you want :) |
| 14:21.46 | stew | manpage says baud_rate,... port [term |
| 14:21.52 | breardo | aye.. as do the other entries |
| 14:21.52 | vtts | $ grep hvc /etc/inittab |
| 14:21.52 | vtts | 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 hvc0 |
| 14:22.06 | stew | breardo: does /dev/hvc0 exist? |
| 14:22.13 | *** join/#debian jujugre (~julienb@peniche.pck.nerim.net) |
| 14:22.26 | breardo | no, it doesnt exist |
| 14:22.42 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@215.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 14:22.44 | *** part/#debian Mostoles (~chatzilla@233.Red-81-32-118.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:22.52 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 14:22.56 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@93.189.143.198) |
| 14:23.01 | stew | then you wont' be able to put a term there |
| 14:23.23 | breardo | its the default in wheezy :) |
| 14:24.38 | *** join/#debian fr0ggie (fr0ggie@unaffiliated/nn) |
| 14:24.50 | fr0ggie | is there a proper MIPS32 port? (say for ar71xx)? |
| 14:26.18 | *** join/#debian zhanshime (~zhanshime@218.201.103.155) |
| 14:27.33 | *** join/#debian delcoyote (~delcoyote@unaffiliated/delcoyote) |
| 14:28.13 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.191.157) |
| 14:28.15 | *** join/#debian xlotlu (~john@188.27.108.142) |
| 14:29.10 | *** join/#debian celord (~celord@201.198.102.2) |
| 14:29.20 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 14:29.20 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 14:31.46 | *** join/#debian bint (bint@cable-static-220-208.intergga.ch) |
| 14:31.55 | *** join/#debian ketsa2 (~chatzilla@164-63.104-92.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 14:33.22 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 14:33.26 | *** join/#debian `Lynx (~Lynx@189.35.150.69) |
| 14:33.58 | fr0ggie | i guess noone hee talks? |
| 14:34.06 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-114-231.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 14:34.23 | breardo | its dead as usual |
| 14:34.28 | `Lynx | i see pypanel has been removed from repositories, is there anything similar on repositories? |
| 14:34.32 | *** join/#debian trbs (~trbs@2001:470:d2ad:1:4a5b:39ff:fe7d:1623) |
| 14:34.36 | breardo | nah it gets active in here |
| 14:34.50 | *** join/#debian blackshirt (~blackshir@203.78.122.82) |
| 14:36.27 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av1-84-91-22-6.netvisao.pt) |
| 14:36.49 | *** join/#debian saturne (~Momo@ppp-45.net-62-100-146.static.magiconline.fr) |
| 14:37.20 | *** join/#debian Paul_E (~paul@67-200-235-82.static.logixcom.net) |
| 14:37.20 | *** join/#debian Fyrespray (~Mark@78.32.255.161) |
| 14:37.36 | *** join/#debian Tectu (~quassel@221-112.195-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 14:37.43 | *** join/#debian Runeg (~Runeg@cpe-76-173-168-2.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 14:37.45 | fr0ggie | i want to do a debian chroot on my WNDR3700 (AR7161 MIPS 24kc)-- problem is Debian/MIPS packages seem to be for MIPS-I which is apparently incapable of running. I mostly know what im doing, but i lack a machine really capable of much cross compiling-- it likes to overheat and catch on fire |
| 14:39.07 | *** join/#debian honucr (~kris@cpe-66-8-245-216.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 14:39.14 | *** join/#debian daft (~daftF@f248151.upc-f.chello.nl) |
| 14:39.24 | *** join/#debian HoldKjeft_ (~quassel@188.95.241.142) |
| 14:39.25 | *** join/#debian Dbug_ (~Dbug@p5B13E482.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:39.26 | *** join/#debian Dbug_ (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 14:39.28 | *** join/#debian gjs (~gjs@GSWoT/Member/gjs) |
| 14:39.55 | *** join/#debian lek_ (~lek@a191073.upc-a.chello.nl) |
| 14:40.18 | *** join/#debian Momo__ (~Momo@zat.oensic.com) |
| 14:40.32 | *** join/#debian lancelot_of (~TheKnight@193.205.228.108) |
| 14:40.36 | lancelot_of | hi all |
| 14:40.48 | *** join/#debian sllide (~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 14:41.01 | *** join/#debian SPF (~spf@ip4da58de3.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 14:41.14 | *** join/#debian soapie (~lenka@gateway/tor-sasl/gluu) |
| 14:41.19 | *** join/#debian willj (~willj__@24-145-40-016-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net) |
| 14:42.06 | *** join/#debian bier|tp (~bier@p54A59AD9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:42.08 | *** join/#debian bier (~bier@p54A59AD9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:42.35 | lancelot_of | i must install g77 compiler (not gfortran) i know about package transition in debian but i need it 'cause the binaries i've to compile for work need g77 ad some compiling option, such as -fno-silent , are not recognized in gfortran. I tried to link simbolically g77 to gfortran but not all goes right, just for the above reason. any suggestion? |
| 14:43.40 | *** join/#debian xuser (~xuser@204.97.199.6) |
| 14:43.47 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam8157@123.118.173.117) |
| 14:43.50 | *** join/#debian Dewi (~dewi@sh.disobedi.net) |
| 14:44.11 | *** join/#debian apt415 (~apt415@S01060026f3e131e8.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 14:44.14 | *** join/#debian Gunni (~gunni@unaffiliated/gunni) |
| 14:44.51 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@85.183.18.158) |
| 14:45.11 | *** join/#debian frotz47 (~matthew@cpe-74-75-53-107.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 14:45.20 | *** join/#debian daemonkeeper (~Arno@unaffiliated/metalfoo) |
| 14:46.50 | *** join/#debian lolmatic (~kommander@port-92-200-40-72.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:47.32 | *** join/#debian miosx (~miosx@nat/hp/x-hkkzswdvpgjjnrxl) |
| 14:47.36 | *** join/#debian grandie (~thomas@p57ACFF95.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:47.47 | *** join/#debian nevyn (~nevyn@124-168-100-227.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 14:47.55 | *** join/#debian LiENUS (quake@209.168.144.219) |
| 14:47.56 | themill | lancelot_of: quite a lot of work was done to get rid of g77 from debian during the development of lenny. If you really need it, you could do your compilation in an etch chroot and then should be able to run the compiled executables outside the chroot. The better way is probably to fix the makefiles so that they work with gfortran. |
| 14:49.17 | *** join/#debian davidrussell (~zurich@68-113-106-89.static.leds.al.charter.com) |
| 14:49.55 | lancelot_of | themill, ok thanks |
| 14:50.46 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-152-2-139.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) |
| 14:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1141] by debhelper |
| 14:51.09 | *** join/#debian bst (~bst@net232-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 14:51.15 | themill | you might need to recompile any old libraries that you've got kicking around with gfortran too. I don't believe you can mix objects that were compiled with g77 and gfortran. There are a couple of threads on the debian-science mailing list about this transition that might be helpful |
| 14:51.51 | *** join/#debian DarkEyes (~d4rk@unaffiliated/darkeyes) |
| 14:52.06 | *** join/#debian fnordperfect (~fab@dslb-092-075-206-150.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:52.26 | *** join/#debian wroos (~wroos@83.172.84.178) |
| 14:53.02 | *** join/#debian Section1 (~section1@190.194.144.66) |
| 14:53.08 | *** part/#debian Section1 (~section1@190.194.144.66) |
| 14:53.17 | *** join/#debian an0 (~an0@null.skytreasure.org) |
| 14:54.44 | an0 | I need help expanding a partition on a debian virtual machine running within XenServer. I've already expanded the virtual disk from 8 to 40GB, and df -hT tells me the disk is /dev/xvda1, ext3, and currently 7.5GB. |
| 14:54.49 | an0 | Can anyone help? |
| 14:55.13 | *** join/#debian Parsifal (~steven@CPE-121-217-131-200.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 14:56.12 | stew | an0: i know little about xen, but if the partition is bigger than the fileysstem, you should just be able to run "resize2fs /dev/whatever" to expand the filesystem to fit |
| 14:56.36 | *** join/#debian djandruczyk (~dandrucz@dyn219-208.utd.rochester.edu) |
| 14:56.50 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@85-127-207-105.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:57.00 | an0 | Does it matter that the system is running and the partition I'm referring to is the boot partition? |
| 14:57.12 | *** join/#debian Speed` (~Curry@cpc1-nfds7-0-0-cust900.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 14:57.14 | djandruczyk | how does one setup debian/rules when dealing with a really ODD package that does NOT use Makefiles or autoconf ? (darwin streaming server) |
| 14:57.36 | stew | an0: no, expanding an ext3 filesystem can be done while the filesystem is mounted |
| 14:57.50 | djandruczyk | i.e. this cluster of a package has a "Buildit" and "Install" scripts which are just shellscripts |
| 14:58.00 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta (~MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot) |
| 14:58.04 | an0 | stew: resize2fs 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) |
| 14:58.04 | an0 | The filesystem is already 1994060 blocks long. Nothing to do! |
| 14:58.18 | stew | an0: then it doesn't think the partition is bigger |
| 14:58.26 | an0 | Hm. |
| 14:58.31 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@proxy3.library.nuigalway.ie) |
| 14:58.47 | djandruczyk | ano: is it a raw partition or an LVM logical volume? |
| 14:58.48 | nsadmin | you may have to reboot for that |
| 14:58.54 | djandruczyk | or use partprobe |
| 14:59.00 | stew | djandruczyk: just call buildit from build-arch or build-indep (whichever is appropriate) and Install from the install target |
| 14:59.21 | *** part/#debian ddan (~iacku@host230-237-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:59.23 | an0 | djandruczyk: I'm not sure. It's a virtual disk in XenCenter, that is all I know. |
| 14:59.38 | an0 | Is there a way I can check? |
| 14:59.43 | *** join/#debian Prolac (~rope@unaffiliated/prolac) |
| 14:59.46 | djandruczyk | an0: did you expand that disk in Xencenter? |
| 14:59.51 | an0 | Yes. |
| 15:00.08 | djandruczyk | you need to run partprobe for the device or reboot that VM |
| 15:00.16 | djandruczyk | as you probaly did that wheile the VM was running didn't you? |
| 15:00.46 | an0 | No, it's required that the VM be shut down before the disk size can be modified. How do I run partprobe? |
| 15:01.10 | djandruczyk | ok, hold up for a moment, if you grew the disk did you enlarge the partition on that vdisk from the VM's point of view? |
| 15:01.30 | djandruczyk | i.e. if you run "fdisk" in that VM does it show you have unused cylinders? |
| 15:01.31 | *** join/#debian cornelinux (~koelbel@dslb-094-219-155-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:01.55 | an0 | Nope. All I did was type 40GB in the disk size field in XenCenter and then started the VM. Now I'm trying to resize the / partition |
| 15:02.19 | djandruczyk | doe the VM use std partitions or LVM ? |
| 15:02.20 | *** join/#debian assurbanipal (~quassel@adsl-25.109.242.61.tellas.gr) |
| 15:02.34 | an0 | I'm sorry, I don't know. How can I check? |
| 15:02.36 | djandruczyk | try this: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda, |
| 15:02.54 | djandruczyk | or sudo fdisk /dev/xvda depending on which version of Xen you're running |
| 15:03.02 | *** part/#debian Hobart (jon@fsf/member/Hobart) |
| 15:03.05 | djandruczyk | sorry, that's fdisk -l |
| 15:03.07 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 15:03.16 | djandruczyk | -l just LISTS the partition table without changing anything |
| 15:03.35 | an0 | Disk /dev/xvda1: 8167 MB, 8167670784 bytes |
| 15:03.35 | an0 | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 992 cylinders |
| 15:03.35 | an0 | Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes |
| 15:03.36 | an0 | Disk identifier: 0x00000000 |
| 15:03.36 | *** kick/#debian [an0!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste) |
| 15:03.47 | *** join/#debian an0 (~an0@null.skytreasure.org) |
| 15:03.51 | an0 | Sorry. |
| 15:03.52 | djandruczyk | an0, no partitions on it? |
| 15:04.06 | *** join/#debian TheWarden (~thewarden@S0106001cf0c3da95.ss.shawcable.net) |
| 15:04.17 | djandruczyk | did you ADD an additional disk or increase the size of an existing one? |
| 15:04.25 | an0 | Increased the existing one. |
| 15:04.31 | *** join/#debian vooze (~vooze@90.185.17.181) |
| 15:04.39 | *** join/#debian vooze (~vooze@unaffiliated/vooze) |
| 15:04.46 | djandruczyk | strange as your output only shows 8167 MB (8 GB) |
| 15:04.58 | an0 | Oh I think I know why |
| 15:05.05 | djandruczyk | and no paritions thought they may have been cut off if you cut and pasted on big blob |
| 15:05.14 | an0 | XenCenter is reporting the disk as /dev/xvda but the system only sees /dev/xvda1 |
| 15:05.14 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 15:05.40 | an0 | XenCenter -- Local Storage 0, 40GB, /dev/xvda |
| 15:05.48 | *** join/#debian Lost_Cause (~nick@pool-173-76-8-253.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 15:07.43 | *** join/#debian oldtopman_ (~oldtopman@71-208-3-227.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 15:07.46 | djandruczyk | an0, you did the wrogn cmd, you did kdisk -l /dev/xda1 , use just xvda |
| 15:08.04 | djandruczyk | sorry, fdisk |
| 15:08.16 | *** part/#debian oldtopman_ (~oldtopman@71-208-3-227.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 15:08.22 | vooze | Hey guys, i just bough 3 x 2TB HDs for my nas server, running debian 6... when i run: cfdisk /dev/hdb (or c or d) i just get the error: FETAL ERROR, closing.. or somthing like that.. any ideas? |
| 15:08.38 | djandruczyk | sudo fdisk -l /dev/xvda1 should show all paritions m, however depending on your payout you might be screwed regarding growing a partition |
| 15:08.49 | an0 | djandruczyk: okay but note that /dev/xvda doesn't appear when running dh -h |
| 15:08.51 | *** join/#debian Monotoko (~Monotoko@unaffiliated/monotoko) |
| 15:09.03 | *** join/#debian lansiir (~oldtopman@71-208-3-227.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 15:09.03 | *** join/#debian lansiir (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) |
| 15:09.04 | djandruczyk | ano it WONT |
| 15:09.04 | *** join/#debian Eno_ (~Eno@static-storm.com) |
| 15:09.07 | an0 | k |
| 15:09.16 | djandruczyk | xvda1 is the DRIVE, xvda{123] are the paritions on it.. |
| 15:09.21 | stew | FETAL! |
| 15:09.34 | an0 | Okay |
| 15:09.36 | djandruczyk | you mount the paritition/volumes not the drive itself (usualy) |
| 15:09.38 | Monotoko | hey guys, I am trying to set up a simple mailserver and I keep running into this: http://pastebin.com/WQ3e99Dq, my postconf -n is here: http://pastebin.com/d3xjVnrZ and I could just do with some pointers, what should be in the postconf instead of "smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth-client" or what do I need to do to make that bit work? Is it a file or directory I haven't created? |
| 15:09.40 | an0 | Disk /dev/xvda: 42.9 GB, 42949672960 bytes |
| 15:09.40 | stew | vooze: perhaps they are /dev/sdx not /dev/hdx? does "fdisk -l" show your drives anywhere? |
| 15:09.47 | djandruczyk | dam typos. |
| 15:10.00 | djandruczyk | an0, what partitions are on xvda ? |
| 15:10.09 | *** join/#debian pipeline (edab9f3892@unaffiliated/pipeline) |
| 15:10.11 | an0 | 1, 2, and 5 |
| 15:10.13 | *** join/#debian B|ackbird (tanta@unaffiliated/backbird/x-3237639) |
| 15:10.15 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@85-127-208-202.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 15:10.21 | djandruczyk | show me |
| 15:10.30 | vooze | stew: ofcouse, that helped.. thanks :D |
| 15:10.50 | an0 | It isn't letting me send when I copy and paste |
| 15:10.54 | *** join/#debian rphillips (~rphillips@unaffiliated/rphillips) |
| 15:10.59 | djandruczyk | do only a couple lines at a time |
| 15:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1147] by debhelper |
| 15:11.39 | an0 | Oh it's because they start with /dev/xvda |
| 15:11.44 | an0 | Thinks they are commands lol |
| 15:11.45 | an0 | one sec |
| 15:11.58 | an0 | I'll put dots before them. |
| 15:12.01 | *** join/#debian Tobias|| (~Tobias@202-6-153-16.static.adam.com.au) |
| 15:12.02 | an0 | ./dev/xvda1 * 1 993 7976241 83 Linux |
| 15:12.07 | an0 | ./dev/xvda2 994 1044 409657+ 5 Extended |
| 15:12.14 | an0 | ./dev/xvda5 994 1044 409626 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
| 15:12.15 | *** join/#debian m3asmi (~rachid@197.253.177.16) |
| 15:12.39 | djandruczyk | an0: Ok its doable however you need to temporarily get rid of swap to do it |
| 15:12.43 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-170-109.home.otenet.gr) |
| 15:12.47 | djandruczyk | since you did NOT use LVM |
| 15:13.08 | *** part/#debian m3asmi (~rachid@197.253.177.16) |
| 15:13.57 | stew | Monotoko: does /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf exist? |
| 15:14.01 | an0 | fml |
| 15:14.06 | an0 | lol okay can you show me how please? |
| 15:14.17 | stew | an0: you should really used a paste site for that kind of thing |
| 15:14.20 | djandruczyk | am doing via PM |
| 15:14.23 | an0 | Sorry. |
| 15:14.33 | an0 | I will use pastebin or cl1p next time. |
| 15:14.34 | djandruczyk | you should see the priv window up from me |
| 15:14.50 | an0 | okay I'll talk to you there |
| 15:16.34 | *** part/#debian joe6 (~joe6@c-76-20-251-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 15:18.52 | *** join/#debian xakz (~XaMaD@ARennes-554-1-135-237.w92-158.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:19.58 | *** join/#debian pickcoder (~blah@unaffiliated/pickcoder) |
| 15:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1141] by debhelper |
| 15:21.47 | *** join/#debian jahil1 (~mohsin@94.203.101.202) |
| 15:22.45 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@93.189.143.198) |
| 15:24.41 | *** join/#debian jpinx (~jpinx@simula.gunkies.org) |
| 15:25.33 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@219.243.32.29) |
| 15:26.47 | *** join/#debian Jussi__ (~jussi@0132700296.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 15:26.49 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 15:28.12 | *** join/#debian joe6_ (~joe6@c-76-20-251-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 15:28.16 | *** join/#debian MadViking (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe8efb00-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 15:28.47 | *** join/#debian ^_^joirene (~chatzilla@121.1.41.5) |
| 15:30.48 | *** join/#debian lorenzo (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 15:31.16 | *** join/#debian fairway (~fairway@91.137.72.169) |
| 15:31.48 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@gb075.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) |
| 15:31.48 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@unaffiliated/nixoeen) |
| 15:33.41 | *** join/#debian xuser (~xuser@unaffiliated/xuser) |
| 15:35.47 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@2a01:e35:2ef5:dce0:213:e8ff:fe8a:42d9) |
| 15:35.52 | *** join/#debian citizen6662 (~citizen66@ip016.231-51-69.Sogetel.net) |
| 15:36.08 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~mezgani@2001:470:9b36:1::2) |
| 15:36.24 | *** join/#debian Farhad (~Farhad@97.103.242.74) |
| 15:39.34 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@nat-88-212-37-51.antik.sk) |
| 15:39.40 | *** join/#debian pLk (~mail@xdsl-188-118-133-90.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 15:43.09 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 15:43.09 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 15:44.14 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 15:45.18 | *** join/#debian rcu (~santa@79.112.139.222) |
| 15:45.52 | Farhad | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.52 | Farhad | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.25 | *** join/#debian Moskito (~Moskito@vpn-global-dhcp3-178.ethz.ch) |
| 15:47.42 | stew | Farhad: that is true. they are pinned by default at 100, so until you specifically ask for a backport, it won't be installed, then once it is installed you get automatic updates for that pacakge from backports |
| 15:48.08 | *** join/#debian sphenxes01 (~sphenxes@85-127-213-208.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 15:48.18 | *** join/#debian LiohAu (~LiohAu@mur75-1-81-57-44-204.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:48.21 | Farhad | stew, can I ask for a backport via Synaptic? |
| 15:48.26 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@91.191.20.3) |
| 15:48.26 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@unaffiliated/black-prince/x-4865215) |
| 15:48.28 | *** join/#debian Jarred (~Jarred@142.68.36.184) |
| 15:48.57 | Farhad | I meant a specific backpot |
| 15:49.01 | Jarred | Hello, I have just installed debian, and when i try to sudo a command, it says I am not in the sudoers file. how do i fix this? |
| 15:49.01 | Farhad | a specific application |
| 15:49.06 | vooze | Hey.. i'm currently formating my harddrives to ext3, but its "stock" at: Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information:... how long shold it take? |
| 15:49.24 | stew | Farhad: i don't know about synaptic |
| 15:49.30 | *** join/#debian pierrep (~pierrep@126.146.202.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 15:49.41 | Farhad | ok thanks stew |
| 15:50.15 | stew | Jarred: run visudo to edit /etc/sudoers, or add your user to the sudo group |
| 15:50.41 | Jarred | stew, thanks. I will do. Now how can i disable desktop icons? |
| 15:51.11 | *** join/#debian davidrussell (~zurich@validate.247birmingham.com) |
| 15:51.17 | djandruczyk | stew: whats the difference between binary: and build: in the rules file ? they both seem to mean similar things |
| 15:52.25 | stew | djandruczyk: build is "compile and stuff" binary is "make the .debs" |
| 15:52.33 | *** join/#debian kurkale6ka (~chatzilla@gatek.mh.bbc.co.uk) |
| 15:52.52 | stew | djandruczyk: see policy 4.9 |
| 15:53.31 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 15:53.34 | stew | Jarred: i don't know, ask the channel in general, but since this is DE specific, you should mention which DE you are using (gnome? kde?) |
| 15:53.58 | Jarred | im wondering how to disable desktop icons in regards to gnome2 |
| 15:54.58 | *** join/#debian cheasee (zeitgeist@2001:858:5:2001::50) |
| 15:55.21 | *** part/#debian an0 (~an0@null.skytreasure.org) |
| 15:56.11 | Jarred | also: it cant seem to detect my wireless card. |
| 15:56.20 | djandruczyk | stew: unfortunatley I'm completely lost as a lthe deb docs assuming you're working with a nice clean Makefile or Autofoo based project, not this completely nonstandard monster. |
| 15:57.01 | *** join/#debian lorenzo (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 15:57.29 | stew | djandruczyk: ask more questions, show us what you have so far, look at other source pacakges in debian to see what they do |
| 15:59.18 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 15:59.34 | djandruczyk | I have, prob is I need to look at some pkg that definitely uses a nonstd build system. I'm trying to package up darwinsteamingserver. So far I've gotten some patches integrated, and a get-origi-source stanza that fetechs the original source and mangles it into a debian friendly filename, but am lost as to the build/patching installign stuff as non of the dh stuff seems to fit as it all assume std clean makefiles or autofoo stuff. |
| 15:59.56 | Jarred | could anyone help me get debian to see my wireless card? |
| 16:00.28 | djandruczyk | this ugly package uses 3 shellscripts, one to build, (Buildit), one to clean (clean), and one to install (Install) the latter I've heavily patched. |
| 16:00.31 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@nat-88-212-37-51.antik.sk) |
| 16:00.53 | stew | djandruczyk: perhaps I'm missing something, but it all sounds straightforward |
| 16:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1131] by debhelper |
| 16:01.10 | stew | djandruczyk: instead of calling "./configure; make" in build-arch, call the compile script |
| 16:01.28 | stew | djandruczyk: instead of calling make dist-clean or whatever in the clean: target, call their clean script... |
| 16:01.43 | djandruczyk | to someone familiar with debian rules and makefile syntax it's probabl ysuper easy, but to a noob, its like climbing a silky smooth wall with oily fingers and toes... |
| 16:02.06 | *** join/#debian jonez (~jam@75-138-122-224.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com) |
| 16:02.06 | *** join/#debian jonez (~jam@unaffiliated/jonez) |
| 16:02.26 | djandruczyk | I tried that and it just says: |
| 16:02.27 | djandruczyk | make -f debian/rules clean |
| 16:02.27 | djandruczyk | make: `clean' is up to date. |
| 16:02.35 | djandruczyk | clean: |
| 16:02.35 | djandruczyk | @./clean |
| 16:02.39 | djandruczyk | from debian/rules |
| 16:02.54 | djandruczyk | the "clean" script it came with is called "clean" |
| 16:03.07 | stew | djandruczyk: you want to make sure to mark that as a PHONY |
| 16:03.33 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 16:03.34 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 16:03.44 | stew | (especially since the target and the script have the same name) |
| 16:03.47 | djandruczyk | stew: how do you do that? (I'm nto a makefile wiz) |
| 16:03.53 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-114-231.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 16:04.05 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~casosac@190.235.89.228) |
| 16:04.06 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@host230.186-108-150.telecom.net.ar) |
| 16:04.09 | stew | http://www.gnu.org/s/hello/manual/make/Phony-Targets.html |
| 16:04.31 | *** join/#debian vchrizz (~fucker@78.142.179.175) |
| 16:04.44 | vchrizz | hi |
| 16:04.46 | *** join/#debian aschro (~andi@dslb-088-069-190-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:04.49 | stew | djandruczyk: its saying "i don't have to make clean, the file named clean already exists". you need to tell it "no no, i don't mean that clean is a file, its just something I'm going to ask you to do" |
| 16:05.10 | djandruczyk | ok, that works.. |
| 16:05.15 | djandruczyk | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.26 | djandruczyk | ok, how to get the build portion to do the patching? |
| 16:05.41 | stew | djandruczyk: are you using a patch system? which? |
| 16:05.44 | djandruczyk | or should I not need to worry about that? |
| 16:05.50 | *** join/#debian iluminator101 (~iluminato@unaffiliated/iluminator101) |
| 16:05.52 | *** join/#debian Yoha (~yoha@2a01:e35:8b19:5a30:224:1dff:fe86:5ace) |
| 16:05.58 | djandruczyk | uhhm, thats a good question |
| 16:06.08 | djandruczyk | i have debian/patches/series if that tells you? |
| 16:06.14 | stew | djandruczyk: or do you just have a directory full of patches? or what? most people would just use the 3.0 (quilt) package format which makes dpkg do the patching for you automatic |
| 16:06.24 | djandruczyk | I use edit-patch to integrate the patches |
| 16:06.28 | *** join/#debian s0ultekkie (~soultekki@a89-152-75-45.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 16:06.29 | stew | yeah, that sounds like quilt. what does "debian/source/format" contain? |
| 16:06.41 | iluminator101 | 50-udev-default.rules is changed where did the old 50-udev-default.rules file go to or renamed as? |
| 16:06.42 | djandruczyk | 3.0 (quilt) |
| 16:06.51 | *** part/#debian Yoha (~yoha@2a01:e35:8b19:5a30:224:1dff:fe86:5ace) |
| 16:07.08 | vchrizz | my server crashed (blank screen; no ping, no reaction on ctrl+alt+del) so i power cycled it and since then when shortly after booting (single mode) i get those strange errors: http://666kb.com/i/bukx9irpqxv8gbp2n.jpg , http://666kb.com/i/bukx9orgx48l14drj.jpg |
| 16:07.14 | *** join/#debian flubber (~hjgh@91-115-221-55.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 16:07.14 | stew | djandruczyk: then it should be patching for you |
| 16:07.26 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@187.127.77.251) |
| 16:07.26 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 16:07.42 | djandruczyk | hmm, ok. |
| 16:08.01 | stew | vchrizz: smells like filesystem corruption |
| 16:08.08 | vchrizz | i dont know how to debug this case, what could i do? |
| 16:08.19 | Flash_ | yes. the bit before then, vchrizz - did it mention mounting readonly? |
| 16:08.31 | Jarred | could anyone help me with my wireless card? |
| 16:08.33 | vchrizz | stew, oh, so you think i would just need to fsck it offline? |
| 16:08.53 | stew | vchrizz: no, i think you need to restore from backup. but fsck would be a wise first step |
| 16:08.54 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 16:08.58 | vchrizz | Flash_: no errors, warnings or information about mounting read only |
| 16:09.07 | vchrizz | it even passes fsck (as you see in first screenshot) |
| 16:09.38 | vchrizz | then it cries with permission denied on /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh |
| 16:09.45 | Flash_ | i can't see any mount info - but whichever, try a fsck but be prepared to reinstall, and possibly with a new hdd too |
| 16:10.01 | stew | vchrizz: can you boot into a rescue environment and check the permissions of those files? |
| 16:10.32 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@230.48.168.109.dsl.static.ip.kpnqwest.it) |
| 16:10.49 | *** join/#debian blackshirt (~blackshir@203.78.122.126) |
| 16:10.53 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 16:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1140] by debhelper |
| 16:11.42 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 16:11.44 | vchrizz | Flash_: sec ill make another screenshot with output some lines before |
| 16:11.46 | *** join/#debian assurbanipal (~quassel@adsl-88.109.242.49.tellas.gr) |
| 16:12.11 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 16:12.21 | Flash_ | i believe you vchrizz, if it doesn't it doesn't. no need for another ss :) |
| 16:12.24 | *** join/#debian null- (~null-@204.97.199.6) |
| 16:12.35 | vchrizz | stew: i could setup dhcp/netboot env on another host to boot via network into debian installer or similar |
| 16:13.54 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@rc137-1-82-233-159-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:14.03 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 16:14.03 | *** join/#debian Ivermect1na (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 16:14.25 | vchrizz | Flash_: http://666kb.com/i/bukxlyekp8izezlwv.jpg this is what i get when booting kernel without arg "single" |
| 16:14.55 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~josue@190.148.208.114) |
| 16:15.28 | null- | can apt-cache show which pkgs are installed when doing a search like aptitude does it? |
| 16:15.38 | *** join/#debian dawud (~dawud@55.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 16:15.43 | *** join/#debian jmarsden (~jmarsden@unaffiliated/jmarsden) |
| 16:15.50 | Flash_ | vchrizz, yeah.... I'd say you're going to be needing to test your backup policies |
| 16:15.52 | iluminator101 | stew i updated my system and 50-udev-default.rules is different |
| 16:16.05 | stew | iluminator101: ok? |
| 16:16.17 | stew | null-: no |
| 16:17.12 | vchrizz | null-: dpkg -l ? |
| 16:17.19 | *** join/#debian isaac1024 (~isaac1024@95.60.222.77) |
| 16:17.25 | null- | stew: ok |
| 16:17.36 | null- | vchrizz: that's not apt-cache :) |
| 16:17.47 | *** join/#debian Zapadlo (~Zapadlo@82.132.248.130) |
| 16:17.54 | vchrizz | null-: but it shows which pkgs are installed :) |
| 16:18.11 | null- | vchrizz: I know, that was not my question |
| 16:19.39 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slvmecha@c-24-91-117-140.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 16:20.31 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 16:20.31 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 16:20.37 | iluminator101 | stew i used to add http://paste.pocoo.org/show/417024/ to 50-udev-default.rules but not its different i add it there it doesnt do what its supposed to do |
| 16:21.35 | *** join/#debian earthnative (~nemo@ppp118-208-11-56.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) |
| 16:23.57 | *** join/#debian stepkrav (~null@unaffiliated/stepkrav) |
| 16:24.21 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@c83-252-75-32.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 16:24.21 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 16:24.27 | *** join/#debian ARandomMale (~treblanel@97-121-57-232.bois.qwest.net) |
| 16:25.12 | ARandomMale | A discussion channel eh? |
| 16:25.33 | *** join/#debian dashs (~dave@dashs.denver.co.us) |
| 16:25.52 | ARandomMale | With 1126 people that are lurking like pros. |
| 16:26.12 | stew | ARandomMale: if you have a question, just go ahead and ask |
| 16:26.39 | ARandomMale | Ok, how are you today? |
| 16:26.53 | *** join/#debian johndo (~johndo@213.144.140.118) |
| 16:27.09 | *** join/#debian lanze_so4 (~hed@77.119.129.22.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 16:27.33 | johndo | hi |
| 16:27.36 | johndo | shouldn't gcc give me a warning about a (possibly) uninitialized variable in this code? http://pastebin.com/mhupGVDm |
| 16:27.50 | stew | ARandomMale: this isn't a social channel though, its intended to provide end-user support for debian. if you are looking for social chat try #defocus or #debian-offtopic |
| 16:28.14 | ARandomMale | Thanks :D |
| 16:28.16 | *** part/#debian ARandomMale (~treblanel@97-121-57-232.bois.qwest.net) |
| 16:28.39 | *** join/#debian dawN` (~dawN@chello080108040220.22.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 16:28.56 | *** join/#debian wm4 (~troll666@p4FF0373E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:29.00 | *** join/#debian blink (~blink@reality.is-after.me) |
| 16:29.02 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 16:29.14 | stew | johndo: seems like a quesion for #gcc |
| 16:29.24 | wm4 | the initramfs-tools trigger updates the initrd only for the first kernel on the list (don't ask me which list) |
| 16:29.31 | wm4 | is that normal? |
| 16:29.54 | blink | what do you all use to manage multiple hosts on a LAN/WAN? puppetmaster seems to be a little clunky, and CFEngine is just not for me. |
| 16:30.20 | *** join/#debian rafanovas (~rafael@c95142e0.virtua.com.br) |
| 16:30.27 | johndo | stew: unfortunately #gcc seems to be dead, no communication at all for the last hours and i cannot post messages there :( |
| 16:30.33 | johndo | and it's the debian gcc :P |
| 16:30.55 | *** join/#debian celord (~celord@201.198.102.2) |
| 16:31.02 | stew | johndo: you cannot post messages there? |
| 16:31.34 | johndo | stew: -!- #gcc Cannot send to channel |
| 16:32.31 | stew | johndo: yes, you need to be registered with nickserv |
| 16:32.40 | johndo | don't know why, i'm not an irc expert, but looks like it's not moderated and nobody has voice, so strange to me |
| 16:32.52 | *** part/#debian rafanovas (~rafael@c95142e0.virtua.com.br) |
| 16:32.54 | johndo | ah, ok, that may be the reason |
| 16:32.57 | stew | johndo: they have silenced non-registered users there |
| 16:33.17 | stew | johndo: ##c would be another place to ask this question |
| 16:34.07 | johndo | stew: question is, should i file a bug about that or am i wrong and should ignore the missing warning? |
| 16:34.21 | johndo | stew: i'll try ##c, thanks |
| 16:34.34 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@77-87-137-42.internetia.net.pl) |
| 16:34.39 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 16:34.39 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@host-091-097-107-032.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 16:35.20 | *** join/#debian webad13 (webad13@213.155.190.138) |
| 16:35.43 | johndo | stew: ##c is even worse, cannot join without identification ... |
| 16:35.58 | jhutchins_lt | For some reason all my konversation settings vanished overnight. |
| 16:36.14 | *** join/#debian monkey (~kvirc@176.14.168.36) |
| 16:36.34 | *** part/#debian mcgreg (~pegasos@p5B161519.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:36.59 | *** join/#debian sombunall (~sombunall@modemcable045.147-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 16:37.25 | johndo | i guess i ignore this missing warning |
| 16:37.48 | *** join/#debian aidaho (~aidaho@220-145-134-95.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 16:39.25 | *** join/#debian Fringe (~baihu@205.214.201.176) |
| 16:39.49 | *** join/#debian nitro44x (~nitro@128.210.68.206) |
| 16:40.18 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~dnai23@HSI-KBW-078-043-178-011.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 16:41.36 | *** join/#debian D3JAVU (D3JAVU@46.162.200.120) |
| 16:42.40 | *** join/#debian RobinJ (~Robin@unaffiliated/robinj) |
| 16:43.33 | *** join/#debian kalyplato (~asd@46-77-227.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 16:43.49 | *** join/#debian HerbMillerJr (~neophytep@c-67-172-29-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 16:44.49 | *** part/#debian kalyplato (~asd@46-77-227.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 16:47.12 | *** part/#debian nitro44x (~nitro@128.210.68.206) |
| 16:48.48 | *** join/#debian spal (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 16:48.49 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@194.126.108.2) |
| 16:49.11 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~netexpert@2001:470:5:44d:226:c7ff:fe73:a9e6) |
| 16:50.00 | *** join/#debian ketsa (~ketsa@adsl-62-167-146-241.adslplus.ch) |
| 16:53.57 | Jayro | Hello, could someone please help me get my wireless card working? i see it in iwconfig but not in ifconfig, and wicd cant seem to find any networks. |
| 16:54.19 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~PhoenixST@bl18-125-23.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 16:55.06 | *** join/#debian Raptors23 (~Raptors@dsl-173-248-213-35.acanac.net) |
| 16:55.22 | jhutchins_lt | Jayro: Get rid of wicd. |
| 16:55.41 | jhutchins_lt | Jayro: If you need roaming, use network-manager. (If you have both, that's your problem.) |
| 16:56.07 | *** join/#debian vchrizz (~fucker@78.142.179.175) |
| 16:56.09 | jhutchins_lt | Jayro: If you don't need roaming - always on the same network - just use the interfaces file to set it up. |
| 16:56.29 | *** join/#debian levi501d (~levi501d@173-8-248-29-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 16:56.30 | stew | Jayro: does "iwlist scan" list networks? |
| 16:56.33 | *** join/#debian WifiBrn3 (brain@cpc2-mapp3-0-0-cust318.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 16:56.59 | *** join/#debian Fill (~Fill@static.88-198-3-19.clients.your-server.de) |
| 16:57.13 | stew | Jayro: does "ifconfig -a" see it? does "ifconfig wlan0 up" help? |
| 16:57.31 | stew | jhutchins_lt: why would you recommend network-manager over wicd for roaming? |
| 16:57.34 | *** join/#debian milobit (~milobit@unaffiliated/milobit) |
| 16:57.46 | *** join/#debian Toidi (~FFForever@unaffiliated/ffforever) |
| 16:58.02 | jhutchins_lt | stew: Because it works better. wicd often fails to even see the NIC. |
| 16:58.11 | Toidi | how do I upgrade from lenny to squeeze? |
| 16:58.15 | Toidi | nvm |
| 16:58.31 | stew | *shrug*. most people I know switched to wicd because it works better |
| 16:59.03 | jhutchins_lt | It did - at etch-n-half. |
| 16:59.42 | Jayro | stew, ifconfig -a does see it, but i get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted" when trying to put it up. |
| 16:59.52 | stew | (it wasn't in etch at all) |
| 17:00.00 | *** join/#debian Swim (~swim@2607:f178:1:6:219:b9ff:fede:8291) |
| 17:00.12 | stew | Jayro: are you trying to put it up as root? |
| 17:00.13 | *** join/#debian nukefree (nuke@i.got.evils.in) |
| 17:00.13 | *** join/#debian alarmschaben (~armin@nepomuk.metulskie.org) |
| 17:00.13 | *** join/#debian soultekkie (~soultekki@a89-152-75-45.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:00.40 | Jayro | stew, i have tried root and my user |
| 17:00.52 | *** join/#debian bizarrefish (~lee@cl-15.lon-03.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 17:00.52 | *** join/#debian Cueball (~lee@coffee.lb3.co.uk) |
| 17:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1131] by debhelper |
| 17:01.04 | *** join/#debian rozie (~rozie@rozie-1-pt.tunnel.tserv11.ams1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 17:01.20 | *** join/#debian Ticho (~Ticho@unaffiliated/ticho) |
| 17:01.59 | *** join/#debian andatche (~herb@mule.andatche.com) |
| 17:02.03 | jhutchins_lt | stew: Fine, you help him. |
| 17:02.06 | *** part/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 17:02.08 | *** join/#debian dokyb (dokyb@host123-166-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:02.46 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~kusanagi@140.87.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 17:02.47 | *** join/#debian Russell`` (~russell@2a02:40:40:62::4) |
| 17:03.12 | *** join/#debian catatonic (catatonic@user.efnet.se) |
| 17:03.38 | stew | Jayro: check dmesg when you get that error as root (you definitely need to run that as root) |
| 17:04.02 | *** join/#debian artabros (~Artabros@108.Red-83-32-72.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:04.11 | Leoneof | hello, i want to install kernel 2.6.38 on Debian 6 |
| 17:04.16 | *** join/#debian cnu (cnu@the.ultimate.lamer.la) |
| 17:04.23 | *** part/#debian blink (~blink@reality.is-after.me) |
| 17:04.28 | Eno_ | Compile it. |
| 17:04.33 | wols | !tell Leoneof about bpo |
| 17:04.49 | wols | Eno_: no need for that |
| 17:05.09 | Leoneof | compile it? it is awful |
| 17:05.12 | Eno_ | It's in repo? |
| 17:05.26 | wols | Leoneof: dpkg told you what to do |
| 17:05.29 | Eno_ | ha ya in backports |
| 17:05.36 | *** join/#debian RecQuery (~kris@cameron6.krisdavidson.org) |
| 17:05.36 | *** join/#debian RecQuery (~kris@pdpc/supporter/active/kirok) |
| 17:06.03 | *** join/#debian eliad (~Eliad@2.176.251.75) |
| 17:06.03 | Eno_ | http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-headers-2.6.38-2-all |
| 17:06.15 | Leoneof | yay |
| 17:06.21 | Leoneof | thanks thanks ^_^ |
| 17:06.25 | *** join/#debian cga (~cga@82.84.169.60) |
| 17:07.13 | *** join/#debian bolt (~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 17:07.34 | *** join/#debian D3JAVU (D3JAVU@host-120.200.162.46.ucom.am) |
| 17:07.46 | Eno_ | Anynone knows if Adobe will fix segfault in flash? It's happening since years now |
| 17:08.28 | pipeline | Eno_: whenever adobe closes a hole, they open an abyss |
| 17:08.53 | Leoneof | true |
| 17:09.16 | Eno_ | everytime i'm using flash related my syslog is crying |
| 17:09.19 | Eno_ | [25411.813710] npviewer.bin[9319]: segfault at e7cfd0ac ip 00000000f61a8fe7 sp 00000000ff976c10 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[f5dd1000+bc1000] |
| 17:09.22 | *** part/#debian rideh (~rideh@99-8-16-147.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:09.47 | *** join/#debian aLgEBrA (~holger@p2-001.pptp.ggew-net.de) |
| 17:09.57 | *** part/#debian arosen (~arosen@130.127.39.173) |
| 17:11.21 | *** part/#debian iluminator101 (~iluminato@unaffiliated/iluminator101) |
| 17:11.32 | *** part/#debian bst (~bst@net232-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 17:12.39 | Leoneof | the kernel is : linux-headers-2.6.38-bpo.2-686 , right? |
| 17:13.52 | *** join/#debian Toidi (~FFForever@vps.chr1831.com) |
| 17:13.52 | *** join/#debian Toidi (~FFForever@unaffiliated/ffforever) |
| 17:16.57 | *** join/#debian dlind_ (~dlind@130.243.8.14) |
| 17:17.05 | *** join/#debian peterrooney (~peter@96.54.181.59) |
| 17:17.26 | *** join/#debian ix (kvamtroe@unaffiliated/ix) |
| 17:17.29 | *** join/#debian Fill (~Fill@static.88-198-3-19.clients.your-server.de) |
| 17:17.36 | *** join/#debian sveva65 (~sverre@130.80-203-25.nextgentel.com) |
| 17:17.36 | *** join/#debian sveva65 (~sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) |
| 17:17.51 | *** join/#debian debianlurker (~deblurk@c83-254-101-192.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 17:18.09 | *** join/#debian calculon (~calculon@188.233.39.240) |
| 17:18.21 | *** join/#debian crs (~crs@gentoo/user/crs) |
| 17:18.43 | calculon | why I can not build a live cd with live-builf utilities? |
| 17:19.11 | calculon | there only memtest and no live mode |
| 17:19.19 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-45702fe1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:19.20 | calculon | lb config -d sid -p minimal --debian-installer live --packages "htop nmap" |
| 17:20.35 | stew | Leoneof: that is not the actual kernel, but the headers you would use to compile out of tree modules for your kernel. the kernel would be in a -image package, not -headers |
| 17:20.54 | calculon | ? |
| 17:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1125] by debhelper |
| 17:21.03 | stew | calculon: you might gret better help in #debian-live on irc.debian.org |
| 17:21.10 | calculon | ok |
| 17:21.41 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h141n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 17:21.46 | *** join/#debian cnu (cnu@the.ultimate.lamer.la) |
| 17:22.01 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 17:25.00 | *** join/#debian sphenxes01 (~sphenxes@85-127-207-5.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 17:26.02 | Bartzy|work | Hi |
| 17:26.22 | Bartzy|work | is it possible to use 'openssl req -newkey' to create a private key that has a passphrase ? I can't accomplish that. |
| 17:26.49 | *** join/#debian lanze_so4 (~hed@77.118.150.122.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 17:27.11 | *** join/#debian D3JAVU (D3JAVU@46.162.200.120) |
| 17:28.15 | *** join/#debian Phil (~phil@2001:470:1f09:3d1:34dd:b00b:cafe:babe) |
| 17:28.29 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 17:28.35 | *** join/#debian Nu^253r (~LessIsMor@2.176.133.67) |
| 17:29.21 | calculon | there is no guys who can help me |
| 17:29.44 | calculon | who often building livecd's? |
| 17:30.11 | calculon | exit |
| 17:31.52 | *** join/#debian asdjaputra (~angga@125.164.21.28) |
| 17:32.05 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@alcotrash.org) |
| 17:32.20 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@195.91.55.53) |
| 17:32.32 | *** join/#debian MarKsaitis (~MarKsaiti@195.59.185.18) |
| 17:33.04 | *** join/#debian calculon (~calculon@188.233.39.240) |
| 17:33.10 | *** join/#debian [diecast] (u320@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gbovnyczxkvelqts) |
| 17:33.20 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-121-167.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 17:33.21 | *** join/#debian batchy (~batchy@81-64-250-56.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 17:34.02 | stew | Bartzy|work: if you want to create a key with a passphrase, do something like openssl genrsa -out foo.key -des3 2048 |
| 17:34.09 | [diecast] | im automating the installation of java and using the command 'echo sun-java6-jre shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1 select true | /usr/bin/debconf-set-selections' - does this change become permanent or does that need to be run every time i want to update java |
| 17:34.27 | *** join/#debian CyrusB (~cyrusb@cmr-208-124-165-82.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 17:36.10 | *** join/#debian oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) |
| 17:37.00 | *** join/#debian killown (~geek@unaffiliated/killown) |
| 17:37.00 | stew | [diecast]: look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-jre.preinst ; it looks like it is going to ask every time |
| 17:37.26 | stew | [diecast]: oh, wait, perhaps not |
| 17:37.48 | [diecast] | ok, so running debconf-set-selections is a an environment change |
| 17:37.49 | stew | [diecast]: i missed the initial db_get in there |
| 17:38.41 | *** join/#debian mh_ (~mh@dev.hollo.dk) |
| 17:39.06 | stew | as opposed to a noop? |
| 17:39.33 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~L3D@69.196.165.41) |
| 17:39.38 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-184.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 17:39.38 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~L3D@unaffiliated/hexiled) |
| 17:39.42 | *** join/#debian Hoxzer (haikion@amadeus.cc.tut.fi) |
| 17:39.43 | [diecast] | im automating this with puppet, so i'd like to either track some file change or possibly run it once and forget it |
| 17:39.52 | *** join/#debian micket (~mikael@dhcp2-pc051043.am.chalmers.se) |
| 17:39.57 | *** join/#debian spacelab (~dspace@128.163.46.250) |
| 17:40.06 | *** join/#debian crs (~crs@gentoo/user/crs) |
| 17:40.26 | *** join/#debian nickr (nick@magenta.zorcat.com) |
| 17:40.35 | *** join/#debian gopher^23 (~kvirc@p5B33355E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:40.40 | *** part/#debian gopher^23 (~kvirc@p5B33355E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:40.45 | *** join/#debian juso (~adamb@208.78.95.50) |
| 17:42.36 | *** join/#debian aranax (~wences.ar@98.162.216.201.static.intelnet.net.gt) |
| 17:43.15 | *** part/#debian aranax (~wences.ar@98.162.216.201.static.intelnet.net.gt) |
| 17:43.15 | *** join/#debian ddan (~iacku@host230-237-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:44.57 | [diecast] | i might not be understanding the concept of using debconf-set-selections |
| 17:45.14 | [diecast] | but is it possible to ensure setting these selections remains in the system |
| 17:45.46 | [diecast] | and once set where can i see those changes |
| 17:45.47 | *** join/#debian Zylvain (~Zylvain@2a01:e35:8a07:4aa0:215:afff:fea2:cf66) |
| 17:46.43 | stew | [diecast]: debconf-get-selections |
| 17:47.08 | [diecast] | dont have that |
| 17:47.11 | [diecast] | i have debconf-show |
| 17:47.32 | stew | judd: file bin/debconf-get-selections |
| 17:47.35 | judd | bin/debconf-get-selections in squeeze/i386: debconf-utils: usr/bin/debconf-get-selections |
| 17:48.10 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 17:48.25 | karlpinc | Speaking of ssl keys and passphrases, is it possible to create a key without a passphrase in one step? I always have to create one with a passphrase and then remove the passphrase (set it to ''). |
| 17:48.49 | *** join/#debian sygeek (sygeek@we.have.hot.chicks.at.gshellz.org) |
| 17:49.11 | [diecast] | thanks. |
| 17:49.43 | *** join/#debian monkey|2 (~kvirc@176.14.168.36) |
| 17:49.43 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 17:50.04 | *** join/#debian kjfletch (~user@cpc6-newc14-2-0-cust545.gate.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:50.24 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@195.91.56.33) |
| 17:50.34 | stew | karlpinc: perhaps -N '' |
| 17:50.45 | *** join/#debian BladeFreak (~BladeFrea@unaffiliated/bladefreak) |
| 17:51.23 | *** join/#debian galba (~ldm@90.84.146.243) |
| 17:51.25 | *** join/#debian jemark (~mark@unaffiliated/jemark) |
| 17:52.37 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:52.40 | *** join/#debian FusionX (sygeek@unaffiliated/fusionx) |
| 17:55.15 | *** join/#debian icub3d (~icub3d@50.8.117.135) |
| 17:55.43 | *** join/#debian blime (~blime@166.61.227.69) |
| 17:56.20 | *** join/#debian myosound (~myosound@smtp1.nationaltrust.org) |
| 17:56.50 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-71-166-48-26.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:57.00 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-184.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 17:57.38 | *** join/#debian crs (~crs@gentoo/user/crs) |
| 17:58.10 | *** join/#debian cabaire (~nobody@p549414F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:58.59 | *** join/#debian monkey|2 (~kvirc@176.14.168.36) |
| 17:59.00 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 18:03.14 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.70.203.86) |
| 18:04.58 | *** join/#debian notregistered (~notregist@static219-118.mimer.net) |
| 18:07.05 | *** join/#debian ehbello (~quassel@chancho.osl.ull.es) |
| 18:07.22 | *** join/#debian kyr0 (~kyr0@unaffiliated/kyr0) |
| 18:07.48 | *** part/#debian asdjaputra (~angga@125.164.21.28) |
| 18:07.59 | *** join/#debian myosound (~myosound@smtp1.nationaltrust.org) |
| 18:09.03 | notregistered | should I use hurd or linux? |
| 18:09.56 | *** join/#debian khaard (~khaard@83-144-64-2.static.chello.pl) |
| 18:10.02 | *** join/#debian the-newsman (~sdf@41.130.39.54) |
| 18:10.14 | the-newsman | does debian have default user/pass ? |
| 18:10.27 | *** join/#debian killown (~geek@unaffiliated/killown) |
| 18:10.39 | stew | the-newsman: no |
| 18:10.41 | *** join/#debian cafuego (~cafuego@luv/admin/cafuego) |
| 18:11.00 | the-newsman | stew can i /msg u ? |
| 18:11.27 | *** join/#debian Touma (~Touma@190.202.88.164) |
| 18:11.27 | stew | notregistered: there is a question if debian will even keep the hurd port. its going to depend on the hurd porters getting it in shape for release by the time wheezy is released. and its questionable as to whether that would be possible |
| 18:11.46 | stew | the-newsman: sure, i guess. but if you have debian related questions, they are better here so that others can help/benefit with your questions |
| 18:12.31 | *** join/#debian el_doggy[14] (~x3User172@95.191.168.41) |
| 18:12.58 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (~jiggumbob@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 18:13.20 | notregistered | stew: hmm.. i see.. i read that the hurd is superior to linux |
| 18:14.33 | notregistered | maybe servers will benefit more from hurd than regular users? |
| 18:14.38 | stew | sounds like a troll |
| 18:14.49 | stew | i cannot imagine how hurd might be superior to linux |
| 18:14.51 | amphi | notregistered: it's interesting; I'd install linux and play with the hurd in a vm |
| 18:15.12 | notregistered | good idea |
| 18:15.20 | amphi | any file can be a mount point, rather than only directories? ;) |
| 18:16.47 | stew | http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/ "The Hurd is under active development, but does not provide the performance and stability you would expect from a production system" |
| 18:17.00 | tensorpudding | well, hurd is theoretically better because it's based on a microkernel design |
| 18:17.01 | stew | certainly doesn't sound like "superior to linux" or "servers will benefit more from hurd than regular users" |
| 18:17.24 | tensorpudding | but it's actually worse because you're going to get random kernel panics |
| 18:17.29 | stew | its also theoretically worse because it is based on the microkernel |
| 18:17.40 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a79-168-158-235.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 18:17.41 | stew | it just depends on your perspective... |
| 18:17.46 | tensorpudding | and it has virtually no driver support |
| 18:17.51 | tensorpudding | and is hard to install |
| 18:18.34 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@chello085216139214.chello.sk) |
| 18:18.35 | slaeshjag | stew: How is a microkernel theoretically worse? |
| 18:18.57 | *** join/#debian kytv (~kytv@gateway/tor-sasl/killyourtv) |
| 18:19.14 | vooze | Hey, i'm trying to setup samba.. i can see /mnt/disk1 just fine on the server (debian 6.0) but cant connect to it though samba.. here is the config: http://pastebin.com/P93rx545 - i have also tryed to chown -R 777 /mnt/disk1 |
| 18:19.30 | stew | slaeshjag: slower |
| 18:19.54 | slaeshjag | stew: Yes, but if you do it right, you can make it *so* much more stable |
| 18:20.02 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 18:20.09 | stew | slaeshjag: yes, there are pros and cons to each... this is my point |
| 18:20.25 | tensorpudding | xnu proves that microkernels can be used for a modern, powerful operating system |
| 18:20.29 | stew | slaeshjag: so far they have failed to produce something that is at all stable... |
| 18:20.49 | slaeshjag | stew: I haven't followed hurd much, I'm more interested in Minix3 |
| 18:21.11 | stew | tensorpudding: so does osx and so did next... |
| 18:21.14 | *** join/#debian icub3d (~icub3d@50.8.117.135) |
| 18:21.18 | tensorpudding | well, it's not purely microkernel |
| 18:21.19 | *** join/#debian biz (biz@unaffiliated/biz) |
| 18:21.22 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.178.77) |
| 18:21.23 | tensorpudding | it's hybrid |
| 18:21.30 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@ip90-6-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 18:21.30 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@unaffiliated/stefandevries) |
| 18:21.33 | tensorpudding | but the core is mach |
| 18:21.36 | tensorpudding | same as hurd |
| 18:21.42 | tensorpudding | i think |
| 18:21.46 | boudiccas | i used dpkg-reconfigure -freadline exim4-config to amend my email address to send out emails from exim, and since then i'm not receiving any emails from the system, and neither is root or mail, its just as if theyve been switched off. can anyone help em switch it back on please? |
| 18:21.58 | tensorpudding | hurd was first mach, but they tried l4 for a few years and gave up on it |
| 18:23.01 | *** join/#debian user (~xae8koo@zebra719.startdedicated.com) |
| 18:23.03 | user | Hello |
| 18:23.08 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone) |
| 18:23.12 | user | Can debian do 801.1x security? |
| 18:23.38 | biz | hi, how can I search for "manually installed packages not depending on anything related to xorg (client/server)"? I've tried this, but it looks like it doesn't catch recursive dependencies: aptitude search '~i !~M !~Dxorg' |
| 18:23.44 | *** join/#debian Monotoko (~monotoko@unaffiliated/monotoko) |
| 18:24.00 | notregistered | any difference between experimental and unstable? |
| 18:24.11 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell notregistered about experimental |
| 18:24.23 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell notregistered about sid faq |
| 18:24.53 | homie | hmmmm, is it normal that qemu gets non-responsive and blacksreened when trying to mfks.ext3 on a attached qcow2 drive ? |
| 18:26.08 | user | How can I do 801.1x authentication? EAP (PEAP), MSCHAPv2 |
| 18:26.30 | dkr | this is really annoying. I turned off "adaptive junk filtering" in icedove because of some false positives but now I still got a mail with a negative x-spam-score in my junk folder(which the server only does for scores about 6.5) so apparently icedove is still doing it |
| 18:26.44 | dkr | s/about/above/ |
| 18:27.47 | eliasson_ | Hi. How can I use regex to filter a output from stdin? |
| 18:28.16 | slaeshjag | eliasson_: egrep? |
| 18:29.09 | *** join/#debian Spec (~nwheeler@unaffiliated/spec) |
| 18:29.11 | eliasson_ | Won't that just grep lines based on regex? |
| 18:29.16 | slaeshjag | oh |
| 18:29.22 | *** join/#debian JamezQ (~james@2002:1804:b038:0:21e:64ff:fe7a:4b08) |
| 18:29.33 | slaeshjag | misunderstood your question |
| 18:29.38 | notregistered | write a perlscript |
| 18:29.43 | jelly-home | eliasson_: what is it exactly you wanted to do? |
| 18:29.46 | [diecast] | ya that question has some interesting wording |
| 18:29.47 | eliasson_ | notregistered: Seems overkill. |
| 18:29.54 | biz | wonders if there's a section or tag for all X apps to use in an aptitude search filter |
| 18:30.15 | jelly-home | eliasson_: pastebin an example -- some input, your regexp, and desired output |
| 18:30.17 | eliasson_ | I've got the value 1% 18% and 100%. I want to get the numeric - without the procentage. |
| 18:30.32 | eliasson_ | 1% => 1 |
| 18:30.35 | eliasson_ | 100% => 100 |
| 18:30.37 | stew | biz: no, there are X apps in many sections. there is the interface::x11 tag |
| 18:30.40 | jelly-home | tr -d % |
| 18:30.43 | *** join/#debian kassah (~textual@Warlock/Developer/Kassah) |
| 18:30.45 | *** join/#debian Ergo^_ (~ergo@79.139.87.107) |
| 18:30.54 | eliasson_ | jelly-home: Thanks. |
| 18:31.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1119] by debhelper |
| 18:31.12 | *** join/#debian Guest71273 (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 18:31.27 | *** join/#debian isaac1024 (~isaac1024@95.60.222.77) |
| 18:31.32 | jelly-home | look ma no regex! |
| 18:31.36 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 18:31.39 | eliasson_ | jelly-home: :) |
| 18:31.47 | *** join/#debian zapadlo (~zapadlo@host-84-13-49-47.opaltelecom.net) |
| 18:33.05 | DammitJim | man, why is it so much fun to install debian? |
| 18:33.16 | DammitJim | I think I've installed debian at least 20 times in the last 2 months |
| 18:33.24 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 18:33.25 | JamezQ | I think you have a condition |
| 18:33.28 | JamezQ | you should see a doctor |
| 18:33.50 | DammitJim | totally |
| 18:34.03 | [diecast] | manually installed? |
| 18:34.07 | *** join/#debian H2S04 (~wee@gateway/tor-sasl/h2s04) |
| 18:34.11 | biz | stew: thanks. I've never looked into debtags.. they look really useful if all maintainers would apply them :) |
| 18:34.36 | *** join/#debian mendred (~quassel@2.25.79.139) |
| 18:35.07 | stew | biz: it doesn't require a maintainer to set them. but yes, it would be great. it would mean we could ditch sections completely, whare are not very useful |
| 18:35.24 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@nat-88-212-37-51.antik.sk) |
| 18:36.00 | *** join/#debian dawN` (~dawN@chello080108040220.22.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 18:36.12 | notregistered | i really like debian, but I don't want to wait three years before i can install gnome 3 in stable |
| 18:36.48 | stew | notregistered: then make sure to help squash RC bugs in testing so that the next stable can come out sooner |
| 18:37.03 | stew | notregistered: or see if you can help speed along some of the release goals |
| 18:37.11 | *** join/#debian asdjaputra (~angga@125.164.21.28) |
| 18:37.26 | DammitJim | [diecast], yes |
| 18:37.42 | *** join/#debian nyl (me@92.83.121.85) |
| 18:37.53 | DammitJim | no gnome3 here... e17 |
| 18:38.29 | *** join/#debian Iridos (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 18:39.19 | notregistered | stable has "gnome do" right? |
| 18:39.44 | *** join/#debian stepkrav (~step@unaffiliated/stepkrav) |
| 18:40.55 | *** join/#debian chachan (~quassel@190.207.78.68) |
| 18:41.34 | *** join/#debian noahfx_ (~josue@190.148.207.158) |
| 18:42.31 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 18:43.46 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 18:43.49 | *** join/#debian Passant (~Passant@78-22-244-50.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:45.26 | swilson06 | how do i create a socket that is listening on a port? i guess it would be a fifo socket or something? |
| 18:45.50 | wols | on a port? |
| 18:46.00 | *** join/#debian Mac101 (~Mac@host109-155-115-18.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:46.37 | stew | swilson06: a tcp port? what are you actually trying to accomplish? |
| 18:47.29 | swilson06 | i want a persistent socket so that i can start node.js, point it at the file and when i stop it, the socket is still there |
| 18:48.04 | swilson06 | that way, i could have two programs going, and if i want to modify the code, no one is the wiser - stop one, start it, stop the other, and start it. |
| 18:48.12 | *** join/#debian joe6_ (~joe6@c-76-20-251-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 18:48.23 | [diecast] | nginx+node.js+websockets |
| 18:48.32 | [diecast] | there is a screencast out there on it |
| 18:48.50 | *** part/#debian aucabarcas (~netexpert@2001:470:5:44d:226:c7ff:fe73:a9e6) |
| 18:48.58 | [diecast] | it was an hour long, i almost fell asleep |
| 18:49.00 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 18:49.11 | swilson06 | errr, not exactly, i mean a fifo that takes network requests |
| 18:49.25 | *** join/#debian roasted (~jason@unaffiliated/roasted) |
| 18:49.30 | swilson06 | not a websocket |
| 18:49.42 | roasted | Which branch of Debian contains the ability to add Gnome 3 repos and update accordingly? |
| 18:49.58 | [diecast] | python twisted maybe |
| 18:50.12 | jelly-home | you seem to want a socket proxy of some sort |
| 18:51.29 | swilson06 | yes, probably |
| 18:51.49 | jelly-home | why not just run your service from inetd |
| 18:51.58 | swilson06 | maybe i should just use nginx and call it a day... just figured there was a way to do this with a fifo or something |
| 18:52.43 | swilson06 | hummm, didn't consider inetd.... that might work. i'll have to look into that. thanks |
| 18:53.00 | boudiccas | i used dpkg-reconfigure -freadline exim4-config to amend my email address to send out emails from exim, and since then i'm not receiving any emails from the system, and neither is root or mail, its just as if theyve been switched off. can anyone help em switch it back on please? |
| 18:53.02 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 18:53.24 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@108-117-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 18:53.37 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 18:54.08 | jelly-home | read the logs; check the service is running |
| 18:54.10 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.178.77) |
| 18:55.23 | *** join/#debian noahfx_ (~josue@190.148.232.85) |
| 18:55.28 | *** join/#debian Mac101 (~Mac@host109-155-115-18.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:55.30 | jelly-home | boudiccas: /var/log/exim4/mainlog and other files in /var/log/exim4/ maybe. Haven't run exim in a while |
| 18:56.03 | *** join/#debian fap-machine (~clarksdal@iskon6990.duo.carnet.hr) |
| 18:56.04 | *** join/#debian teratorn (~teratorn@python/site-packages/teratorn) |
| 18:56.22 | teratorn | Hi, where could I download an ISO of debian sarge for x86? |
| 18:56.57 | themill | dpkg: tell teratorn about sarge |
| 18:57.00 | asdjaputra | teratorn, debian.org |
| 18:57.02 | asdjaputra | heh |
| 18:57.24 | dutchfish | teratorn, http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 18:57.42 | teratorn | thanks |
| 18:58.11 | *** join/#debian homie (~levgue@xdsl-78-35-160-31.netcologne.de) |
| 18:58.21 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 18:58.31 | teratorn | are there any package mirrors left? |
| 18:59.00 | peterrooney | teratorn: um, what are you really trying to do? |
| 18:59.20 | teratorn | I need an old linux VM to test software on |
| 18:59.27 | dutchfish | teratorn, sorry nope, but snapshot.debian.org |
| 18:59.28 | themill | no. not for around 3 years. |
| 18:59.41 | themill | teratorn, dutchfish: archive.debian.org |
| 19:00.25 | teratorn | themill: ta, debian rules |
| 19:00.43 | stew | teratorn: for isos you want http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 19:00.55 | *** join/#debian chattr (~mike@94.166.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 19:00.59 | *** join/#debian rcu (~santa@79.112.139.222) |
| 19:01.13 | themill | (the link is in dpkg's factoid for sarge) |
| 19:01.16 | peterrooney | teratorn: what about this software demands compatibility with a deprecated release? |
| 19:01.25 | *** join/#debian wilfredor (c85a272a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.90.39.42) |
| 19:01.34 | *** join/#debian wakatana (~Administr@nat-88-212-40-131.antik.sk) |
| 19:01.34 | *** join/#debian squantrill (~simon@s5146e475.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 19:01.40 | *** join/#debian fnordperfect (~fab@dslb-092-075-206-150.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:01.43 | *** join/#debian wilfredor (c85a272a@unaffiliated/libertad) |
| 19:01.43 | *** join/#debian wilfredor (c85a272a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.90.39.42) |
| 19:01.50 | *** join/#debian MrFrood (happy@ukato.freeshell.org) |
| 19:01.51 | *** join/#debian rhenani (~rhenani@201.243.21.191) |
| 19:01.56 | rhenani | hello guys |
| 19:01.57 | wilfredor | Hi |
| 19:01.57 | wilfredor | I'm printing a PDF 12 kb, but when I send print, the file grows in size in the print queue. There is a way around this problem? |
| 19:02.36 | *** join/#debian gjs (~gjs@GSWoT/Member/gjs) |
| 19:02.43 | daft | We recommend that you upgrade your linux-2.6 and user-mode-linux packages. These updates will not become active until after your system is rebooted. I do not like to be a troll. But does that mean i need to set LOAD_KEXEC=false in /etc/default/kexec . To force a "BOOT" of my system by bios. while the whole thing is kexec is to restart with out reboot. |
| 19:03.04 | rhenani | I configured my wlan0 interface to connect automatycally to one of the red, but i moved and i have a new red which has a WEP key |
| 19:03.36 | *** join/#debian discozohan (~ogolovano@178.140.241.202) |
| 19:03.42 | boudiccas | jelly-home; /var/log/exim4/mainlog doesnt exist, and /var/log/exim4/ is empty. i think i may run dpkg-reconfigure -freadline exim4-config again and see if i can switch it back on again |
| 19:03.47 | teratorn | peterrooney: its for building software actually. GHC includes calls to certain kernel syscalls if they are available, but this produces executables which don't work on older kernels, so I need a build machine that is old as _hell_ |
| 19:04.37 | rhenani | And now i don't how to configure the wlan0 interface to connect automatcally to my new red |
| 19:04.38 | *** join/#debian andrelo (~andre@87-231-244-58.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:04.39 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 19:04.44 | rhenani | I have the essid and key |
| 19:04.47 | dutchfish | themill, does archive for sarge latest contain sec updates as snapshot does? |
| 19:04.55 | Iridos | daft, I was told kexec will boot the first entry from your grub config, so you can still boot into a new kernel if that takes the new #1... haven't tried myself, though, just deactivated kexec, because I don't see the point for me |
| 19:05.21 | rhenani | but i don't how put the password i just iwconfig wlan0 essid [name of the red] channel [channel of the red] |
| 19:05.54 | rhenani | But i don't now what's next |
| 19:06.03 | rhenani | can some help me please? |
| 19:06.36 | *** join/#debian TrueDD (~truedd@unaffiliated/truedd) |
| 19:06.49 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@xdsl-87-79-161-45.netcologne.de) |
| 19:07.19 | daft | Yea if enabled it wil Load the new kernel if you command a restart. overideing the hard reboot. |
| 19:07.25 | *** join/#debian Raphaelt (~Raphael@ret08-1-88-182-200-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:08.13 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 19:08.13 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 19:08.26 | daft | Iridos, so from a documentation point of view reboot is not required. |
| 19:10.03 | *** join/#debian jonez (~jam@75-138-122-224.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com) |
| 19:10.03 | *** join/#debian jonez (~jam@unaffiliated/jonez) |
| 19:10.52 | *** join/#debian killown (~geek@unaffiliated/killown) |
| 19:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1126] by debhelper |
| 19:12.42 | *** join/#debian gusto (~gusto@p5DC15C38.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:12.43 | *** join/#debian j3r3mias (t7DS@187.82.61.51) |
| 19:13.31 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 19:14.04 | *** join/#debian LordVorp (~rob@38.100.208.71) |
| 19:14.16 | *** part/#debian fap-machine (~clarksdal@iskon6990.duo.carnet.hr) |
| 19:14.20 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 19:14.27 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 19:14.39 | boudiccas | hello true |
| 19:14.46 | boudiccas | hello TrueDD |
| 19:15.01 | LordVorp | I'm trying to use a different binary for haproxy, but keep the init script. I set the value HAPROXY to the path of the new binary in /usr/local/sbin, but I keep getting "start-stop-daemon: Unable to start /usr/local/sbin/haproxy: No such file or directory" |
| 19:15.28 | LordVorp | is there some special qualification that start-stop-daemon has for, say filename translation, that I'm not getting? |
| 19:15.29 | pickcoder | DPL meeting on oftc now #debian-meeting |
| 19:15.43 | *** join/#debian larsivi (~quassel@188.113.74.106) |
| 19:16.06 | TrueDD | hello boudiccas |
| 19:16.08 | *** join/#debian sjs205 (~sjs205@host109-149-135-203.range109-149.btcentralplus.com) |
| 19:16.11 | ujjain | how do I not install recommended packages? |
| 19:16.44 | *** join/#debian jodeba (~debel@ip3.c198.obr248.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 19:16.53 | themill | dpkg: tell ujjain about apt recommends |
| 19:17.15 | *** join/#debian GJdan (GJdan@w120-233.wireless.uvic.ca) |
| 19:17.24 | asdjaputra | is dpkg a bit deaf today? |
| 19:17.29 | asdjaputra | dpkg |
| 19:17.36 | themill | asdjaputra: no |
| 19:17.44 | asdjaputra | oh |
| 19:17.46 | asdjaputra | pm |
| 19:17.50 | asdjaputra | sorry |
| 19:18.02 | ujjain | hehe right, I got the pm. |
| 19:18.08 | ujjain | libradiusclient-ng2, wonder why this is needed for nrpe |
| 19:18.08 | asdjaputra | heh |
| 19:18.32 | *** join/#debian nevyn (~nevyn@124-168-100-227.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 19:18.47 | iridos | dpkg, tell asdjaputra -about enter |
| 19:18.52 | *** join/#debian zok (~derzok@unaffiliated/zok) |
| 19:19.07 | zok | What is the apt-get package name for the network tool 'dig'? |
| 19:19.08 | iridos | see, demonstrated + used a useful message to do so :-P |
| 19:19.14 | zok | I can't for the life of me find it |
| 19:19.18 | zok | And when I do apt-cache search dig |
| 19:19.21 | pickcoder | dnsutils |
| 19:19.23 | zok | I get like, 12 pages of stuff |
| 19:19.28 | iridos | dpkg, tell zok -about apt-file |
| 19:20.00 | *** part/#debian asdjaputra (~angga@125.164.21.28) |
| 19:20.38 | *** join/#debian dashs (~dave@dashs.denver.co.us) |
| 19:21.06 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:21.23 | *** part/#debian djandruczyk (~dandrucz@dyn219-208.utd.rochester.edu) |
| 19:21.59 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 19:22.01 | dashs | X arrrgh: I can't get my X server to display a remote app (tuned off nolisten, have xhost +, etc |
| 19:22.10 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@189.90.33.131) |
| 19:22.20 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 19:22.35 | *** join/#debian clsmith (~cls@ambrose.lubutu.com) |
| 19:23.12 | *** join/#debian cesar_CR (~celord@200.91.75.115) |
| 19:23.26 | clsmith | hey all. i was hoping someone could help me with texlive refusing to install http://sprunge.us/SZdR it seems to be a packaging problem. any idea who i should ask, etc? |
| 19:23.48 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-184.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 19:24.24 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@109-61-63-36.adsl-pool.dravanet.hu) |
| 19:24.53 | stew | clsmith: you are running testing/unstable? have you checked the bts? |
| 19:25.01 | *** join/#debian nachox (~imarambio@unaffiliated/nachox) |
| 19:25.11 | nachox | what is the sync user used for? |
| 19:25.51 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@188.123.230.122) |
| 19:25.54 | *** join/#debian mysticsilent (~dirk@dhcp-077-250-062-076.chello.nl) |
| 19:26.10 | stew | nachox: see /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html |
| 19:26.30 | clsmith | stew: i'm running testing. i've looked at the bts, i couldn't find anything similar |
| 19:26.38 | stew | clsmith: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 19:27.10 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 19:27.42 | clsmith | hmm, okay, i'll report it. i was hoping to have something more of value than "it doesn't work ;-;" ;) thanks |
| 19:27.49 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 19:27.49 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 19:29.24 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 19:29.48 | *** join/#debian aoh (~aki@85.23.168.115) |
| 19:30.01 | *** part/#debian wilfredor (c85a272a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.90.39.42) |
| 19:30.03 | stew | clsmith: is this #600013 or #560317 ? |
| 19:30.49 | npoektop | how to set password for grub2? Can't get http://grub.enbug.org/Manual |
| 19:30.55 | npoektop | it's offline |
| 19:31.05 | *** join/#debian fr0ggie (fr0ggie@unaffiliated/nn) |
| 19:31.34 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@215.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 19:31.48 | *** join/#debian chipotle (~chipotle@140.247.79.40) |
| 19:32.02 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@188.125.213.76) |
| 19:32.16 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:32.20 | clsmith | stew: it doesn't look like it |
| 19:32.31 | *** join/#debian Gunni (~gunni@unaffiliated/gunni) |
| 19:32.49 | nachox | stew, thanks |
| 19:33.07 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 19:33.16 | *** part/#debian teratorn (~teratorn@python/site-packages/teratorn) |
| 19:34.21 | *** join/#debian XThief (~XThief@166.Red-95-121-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:35.06 | *** join/#debian XThief (~XThief@166.Red-95-121-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:35.21 | dawud | hi all |
| 19:35.31 | *** part/#debian LordVorp (~rob@38.100.208.71) |
| 19:36.33 | *** join/#debian MarKsaitis_ (~MarKsaiti@195.59.185.18) |
| 19:37.51 | *** join/#debian LiohAu (~LiohAu@mur75-1-81-57-44-204.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:39.19 | clsmith | stew: on a closer look it seems related to #593782 |
| 19:40.19 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (~suguru@w0109-49-133-131-143.uqwimax.jp) |
| 19:40.34 | clsmith | ah, no it isn't, that file seems to exist |
| 19:40.39 | clsmith | just reportbugs |
| 19:40.55 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-24-63-160-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 19:41.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1134] by debhelper |
| 19:42.28 | *** join/#debian Tramp (~mt@46-127-15-123.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:43.05 | *** join/#debian Fill (~Fill@unaffiliated/fill) |
| 19:44.13 | *** join/#debian McMAGIC--Copy (~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy) |
| 19:45.04 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 19:45.59 | *** join/#debian craigevil (~craig@66-87-0-60.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 19:46.02 | *** join/#debian orl (~orl@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-240-95.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 19:46.05 | *** join/#debian trbs (~trbs@2001:470:d2ad:1:4a5b:39ff:fe7d:1623) |
| 19:46.06 | orl | Hi! |
| 19:46.31 | *** join/#debian tr3yv1 (~tr3yv1@26-31.3-213.fix.bluewin.ch) |
| 19:46.59 | orl | got a question about lspci and FireWire: I've about to buy a laptop because it has a FW port, but with a live-cd, I can't find any line with FreiWire IEEE or 1394 in lspci or lshw out, even after running update-pciids |
| 19:47.11 | orl | is it possible that the card is not known by now? |
| 19:47.38 | stew | orl: does it have lines in lspci which are unknown? |
| 19:47.43 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-114-231.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 19:47.48 | *** join/#debian bst (~bst@net232-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 19:47.56 | *** join/#debian killown (~geek@unaffiliated/killown) |
| 19:48.37 | *** join/#debian zoidbergg (~zoidbergg@66-230-116-17-rb1.nwc.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net) |
| 19:49.04 | orl | not sure, should it be written specifically unknown ? there were a lot of lines I wasn't used to read concerning micro processor controller. |
| 19:49.25 | orl | stew: but it's an i7, and i never tried this before, so I don't know whether it's problematic or not. |
| 19:49.37 | orl | By the way, I've an example by my side by now. |
| 19:50.02 | orl | I can check it, I just have not to accept windows license so that I can give it back to ACER to get my money back. |
| 19:50.35 | *** part/#debian tr3yv1 (~tr3yv1@26-31.3-213.fix.bluewin.ch) |
| 19:50.44 | *** part/#debian nachox (~imarambio@unaffiliated/nachox) |
| 19:51.45 | stew | orl: if you have the "lspci -nn" output, that would be the most helpful |
| 19:52.04 | orl | OK, I'm gonna do that |
| 19:52.05 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 19:52.13 | orl | just the time for me to get it plugged, and so on |
| 19:52.27 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~smaug9@12.173.132.2) |
| 19:52.28 | *** part/#debian Pikel (~xaero@ool-435056c7.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:53.44 | *** join/#debian lilibox (~franta_bi@93.99.40.10) |
| 19:53.51 | zoidbergg | orly |
| 19:53.59 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 19:54.31 | zoidbergg | finally installed Debian for the first time, feels good man. |
| 19:54.59 | *** join/#debian Fanisk (~Fanisk@217-117-112-78.proc.ru) |
| 19:55.31 | zoidbergg | took a break from linux for a while, came back and installed Open Suse 11.3, and Mandriva 2010.2, they are a mess. |
| 19:55.34 | *** join/#debian thewanderer1 (~thewander@cwx253.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:56.18 | zoidbergg | we need a clever bot in here so it seems as if this is a chat room. |
| 19:56.32 | thewanderer1 | hi, I've got an .exe file - how to unpack it? file-roller lists the contents, so does p7zip-full, but extracting yields "Unsupported Method" |
| 19:56.49 | *** join/#debian monkey|3 (~kvirc@176.14.168.36) |
| 19:57.17 | Jarvis | thewanderer1: usually its cabextract |
| 19:58.29 | *** join/#debian Cibort (~Cibort@unaffiliated/cibort) |
| 20:00.12 | thewanderer1 | Jarvis: that didn't work, is not a CAB file apparently O.o |
| 20:00.25 | thewanderer1 | what's strange though is that 7-zip can "see" the contents, but not unpack |
| 20:00.31 | Jarvis | hmm |
| 20:00.40 | Jarvis | thewanderer1: what does file <filename> say about it ? |
| 20:00.55 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: winzip 10? |
| 20:01.11 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 20:01.13 | thewanderer1 | PE32 executable for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit... not that I expected something different |
| 20:01.44 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@89.146.180.168) |
| 20:02.23 | *** join/#debian miosx (~miosx@192.6.114.30) |
| 20:04.02 | *** join/#debian Lost_Cause (~nick@pool-173-76-8-253.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:04.05 | *** join/#debian monkey|2 (~kvirc@176.14.168.36) |
| 20:04.25 | *** join/#debian baudelaire (~baudelair@wikipedia/Baudelaire) |
| 20:04.49 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 20:04.51 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home, Jarvis: looks like I need p7zip-rar installed... let's see |
| 20:05.17 | Jarvis | curious |
| 20:05.29 | *** join/#debian q_a_z_steve (~q_a_z_ste@50.8.64.128) |
| 20:05.36 | *** join/#debian ferr (~ferr@vfmw0.neptun.6net.hu) |
| 20:06.14 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@athedsl-366937.home.otenet.gr) |
| 20:06.31 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; hi there, i used dpkg-reconfigure -freadline exim4-config to amend my email address last night/this morning and since then I'm not recieving any mail from the system. You said that if i had any problems to get back to you, so here i am. can you help please? |
| 20:06.39 | *** part/#debian joe6_ (~joe6@c-76-20-251-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 20:07.25 | thewanderer1 | Jarvis: yeah, found a bug report |
| 20:08.03 | *** join/#debian Spec (~nwheeler@unaffiliated/spec) |
| 20:08.41 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-213-249-170.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 20:13.06 | *** join/#debian crypted (~doobie@ip72-198-74-111.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 20:14.27 | *** join/#debian mcgreg (~pegasos@p5B161519.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:14.30 | mcgreg | hi |
| 20:14.44 | *** join/#debian miosx (~miosx@192.6.114.30) |
| 20:15.11 | *** join/#debian vooze (~vooze@90.185.17.181) |
| 20:15.11 | *** join/#debian vooze (~vooze@unaffiliated/vooze) |
| 20:15.24 | mcgreg | do you know if there is a good reason why wine(-unstable) is pretty old in the debian repos? no maintainer? or is the software too low quality or something? |
| 20:16.24 | jelly-home | maintainer busy with other stuff |
| 20:16.56 | *** join/#debian wim_ (~wim@dslb-088-073-030-007.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:17.42 | mcgreg | ok |
| 20:17.44 | mcgreg | thx |
| 20:18.05 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; ping? |
| 20:18.06 | jelly-home | mcgreg: you may or may not want to take a look at http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
| 20:18.40 | *** join/#debian LegolasV (~whoeiii35@kde/developer/sverberkt) |
| 20:20.31 | mcgreg | jelly: thank you |
| 20:23.09 | orl | stew: lspci -nn here: www.pastebin.com/9b4v1cwH |
| 20:26.05 | *** join/#debian nsanee (IceChat77@unaffiliated/nsanee) |
| 20:26.32 | *** join/#debian Woodi (~Woodi@hfy250.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 20:26.55 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@2001:1470:faca:1502:885c:2894:f16d:da4f) |
| 20:26.57 | *** join/#debian twanny796 (~twanny@46.11.81.241) |
| 20:28.01 | nsanee | Anyone could point me to software that will detect and log ddos attacks? They are either bigass pings or other packet flood reaching 30mbps |
| 20:28.36 | orl | stew: and lshw here www.pastebin.com/KaetHXS |
| 20:29.19 | *** join/#debian ksheurs (~sheursk@nyv-exweb.iac.com) |
| 20:29.40 | *** join/#debian abahkaiyisah (~abahkaiyi@110.139.99.96) |
| 20:29.52 | *** join/#debian iateadonut (~dan@static-96-254-122-36.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:29.52 | abahkaiyisah | hi all |
| 20:30.00 | Black_Prince | orl, unknown paste id |
| 20:30.26 | orl | Black_Prince: sorry |
| 20:30.29 | orl | I'm not on the same machine |
| 20:30.33 | orl | I'll check it once again |
| 20:30.50 | orl | stew: and lshw here www.pastebin.com/rKaetHXS |
| 20:30.53 | orl | this one is good |
| 20:30.58 | abahkaiyisah | hi orl |
| 20:31.05 | orl | Hi! |
| 20:32.17 | abahkaiyisah | i'm thinking about small server that can be scaled-out by adding other small server |
| 20:32.36 | abahkaiyisah | what is the key word for google ? |
| 20:32.49 | abahkaiyisah | is it cloud ? |
| 20:33.09 | *** join/#debian Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 20:33.21 | *** join/#debian inta (~inta@e178003154.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:33.24 | Zopieux | hi |
| 20:33.48 | Zopieux | i've got a debian server without root privileges, I can only work in my ~ |
| 20:34.00 | Zopieux | I'm desperately trying to install user-wide fonts for xelatex |
| 20:34.10 | Zopieux | do you know if it possible? |
| 20:34.11 | *** join/#debian lalochezia (~lalochezi@chello080108101183.24.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 20:34.18 | *** part/#debian lilibox (~franta_bi@93.99.40.10) |
| 20:34.23 | *** join/#debian Cain (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 20:34.51 | babilen | Zopieux: It is possible -- See http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/TeX-on-Debian/ch4.html for example |
| 20:35.17 | Zopieux | do you think this can work with xelatex too, babilen? |
| 20:35.41 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (~suguru@w0109-49-133-131-143.uqwimax.jp) |
| 20:35.53 | *** join/#debian ymasory (~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 20:35.56 | *** join/#debian peppe (~peppe@unaffiliated/peppe) |
| 20:37.04 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; ping |
| 20:37.25 | babilen | Zopieux: I do not see a reason why it shouldn't work. Note that XeLaTeX also uses fontconfig fonts -- Please read /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html as I am not really familiar with it. |
| 20:37.25 | *** part/#debian inta (~inta@e178003154.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:37.38 | Zopieux | ok, thanks |
| 20:38.30 | *** join/#debian lrojas (~lrojas@mail.rogue-research.com) |
| 20:38.51 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@108-117-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 20:39.29 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 20:39.31 | Black_Prince | orl, what linux version is that? |
| 20:39.38 | babilen | Zopieux: Good luck :) |
| 20:39.50 | orl | Black_Prince: a ubuntu 10.04 live-cd |
| 20:39.56 | orl | burn a few monthes ago |
| 20:40.01 | Black_Prince | Linux (kernel) not Distribution |
| 20:40.08 | orl | Oh sorry |
| 20:40.38 | orl | 2.6.32-21 SMP |
| 20:40.40 | Black_Prince | That hardware is quite new, I guess support for it has been added in 2.6.38/2.6.39 ... not before |
| 20:40.52 | orl | Oh, OK, this could be the deal |
| 20:41.05 | orl | Maybe if I burn a new live-cd (debian unstable) |
| 20:41.08 | orl | ? |
| 20:41.34 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~josue@190.148.105.158) |
| 20:41.45 | Black_Prince | Grab kernel debs from Sid (2.6.39 ones), and install it via dpkg ... Don't upgrade to sid, it is not recommended if you are new user |
| 20:42.08 | orl | Black_Prince: I'm not a new user, I'm under sid for 7 years now ;) |
| 20:42.42 | orl | OK, so just from a squeeze live-cd and then, wget the .deb and dpkg it? |
| 20:42.43 | babilen | Zopieux: You probably just want to copy the fonts to ~/.fonts/ and run "fc-cache -fv" to generate the indices |
| 20:42.44 | *** join/#debian martchukov (~antonm@algol.ru-spb-hm.net.martchukov.com) |
| 20:43.00 | Black_Prince | orl, also you can try installing 2.6.38 kernel from squeeze backports. |
| 20:43.18 | Black_Prince | orl, yeah, wgeting debs and dpkg -i then would be the right way. |
| 20:43.31 | orl | the problem is to do that from a live-cd (cause I don't have to install anything till I'm not sure) |
| 20:43.34 | Zopieux | babilen, ok but I don't really get how all this font sh*t works |
| 20:43.39 | *** join/#debian monkey (~kvirc@176.14.168.36) |
| 20:43.42 | orl | OK, it's not really a problem, but I'm not so in ease with this |
| 20:43.59 | orl | OK, I'm going to try with the Debian Squeeze live-cd I've got |
| 20:44.01 | orl | brb |
| 20:44.15 | Zopieux | the problem here is that the 'lmodern' font is the default xelatex font but it's not installed on the server |
| 20:44.18 | *** join/#debian kishy (~kishy@69-196-137-205.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 20:44.23 | babilen | Zopieux: Let font-shit be font-shit and do not try to wrap your head around it :) -- In particular LaTeX fonts a huge clusterfuck and one of the reasons for the development of XeLaTeX |
| 20:44.25 | Zopieux | even if i don't use this font, xelatex wants it. |
| 20:45.04 | babilen | Zopieux: Oh, that should be installed by default. Let me see which package comes with it. lmodern is *the* standard LaTeX font |
| 20:45.39 | Zopieux | yes, but my sys admin refuses to install it (50Mb is a bit huge for him) |
| 20:45.48 | babilen | ,info lmodern |
| 20:45.51 | judd | Package lmodern (fonts, optional) in squeeze/i386: scalable PostScript and OpenType fonts based on Computer Modern. Version: 2.004.1-3; Size: 17774.2k; Installed: 45644k; Homepage: http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern/ |
| 20:45.53 | *** join/#debian crypted (~doobie@ip72-198-74-111.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 20:45.55 | Zopieux | I have to find another way of install it |
| 20:46.27 | babilen | Zopieux: Pity -- As if installing it yourself will somehow use less space :) |
| 20:46.41 | Zopieux | I know... |
| 20:48.00 | *** join/#debian flaming_bass (~flaming_b@HSI-KBW-078-043-090-249.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 20:49.20 | *** join/#debian mikkidog (~william@bas16-ottawa23-1242481939.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 20:50.32 | *** join/#debian malkomalko (~malkomalk@adfb4f22.cst.lightpath.net) |
| 20:50.59 | *** join/#debian notrev (~everton@unaffiliated/notrev) |
| 20:51.46 | *** join/#debian salvin_ (~salvin@93-46-44-126.ip106.fastwebnet.it) |
| 20:52.32 | *** join/#debian Calyp (~Caly@unaffiliated/calyptratus-tzm) |
| 20:53.26 | *** join/#debian martchukov (~antonm@algol.ru-spb-hm.net.martchukov.com) |
| 20:53.27 | *** join/#debian chellomere (~alex@h-234-42.A189.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 20:53.34 | *** join/#debian felipe13 (~chatzilla@190.10.109.36) |
| 20:54.02 | *** join/#debian roovis (rcs@206.74.174.172) |
| 20:54.16 | orl | Black_Prince: sidux could be OK? |
| 20:54.23 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@unaffiliated/speedyg) |
| 20:54.46 | Black_Prince | orl, never used it. You can give it a try |
| 20:55.00 | Zopieux | hmm and debian provides no tool to install latex packages? |
| 20:55.05 | Black_Prince | But be aware that sidux may not be supported here |
| 20:55.07 | *** join/#debian alexb_1 (~alex_b@pool-108-52-13-61.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:55.08 | *** join/#debian Cusipzzz (~Cusipzzz@unaffiliated/cusipzzz) |
| 20:55.29 | *** join/#debian Eitan (~Eitan@adsl-99-22-192-148.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:55.36 | *** join/#debian head_band (~he@ip68-2-140-46.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 20:55.49 | *** join/#debian bint (bint@cable-static-220-208.intergga.ch) |
| 20:56.01 | daemonkeeper | Zopieux: There are a lot of Latex packages available. If the CTAN package your are looking for is not available your're indeed on your own (but you can use CTAN of course) |
| 20:56.01 | Eitan | gonna install my first debian system, tyring to set up a load balancer for to IIS http servers.... going to use ultra monkey |
| 20:56.05 | Eitan | does this sound like a decent path to take? |
| 20:56.08 | *** join/#debian zoidbergg (~zoidbergg@66-230-116-17-rb1.nwc.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net) |
| 20:56.14 | orl | Black_Prince: OK, cause I can't get the linux-image package in that live mode (don't know why, but leads to kernel panic |
| 20:56.38 | alexb_1 | hi all, can anyone recommend good usb lamp? need to be able to turn if on /off using soft. thanks. |
| 20:56.46 | orl | Black_Prince: I don't want to install sidux, just want to run a live-cd with 2.6.39 so that I can use a suitable lspci |
| 20:57.02 | orl | Black_Prince: any idea about another debian live-cd for SID? |
| 20:57.06 | orl | with SID, I mean |
| 20:57.11 | *** join/#debian skrewler (~skrewler@209.213.206.58) |
| 20:57.23 | *** join/#debian Recku (~radkos@77-85-91-107.btc-net.bg) |
| 20:58.04 | Zopieux | daemonkeeper, ok, so the question is, "is there a tool to easily install CTAN packages" :) |
| 20:58.46 | *** join/#debian wvmac (~wvmac@c-98-236-80-164.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 20:59.23 | daemonkeeper | Sure, the genuine Latex tools :) |
| 21:00.07 | Zopieux | hmmm |
| 21:00.20 | Zopieux | i'm reading http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/TeX-on-Debian/ch4.html |
| 21:00.33 | Zopieux | it's all about manual downloads. |
| 21:00.40 | Eitan | which release should i install for a 64bit virtual machine? |
| 21:01.10 | rhenani | hellohello guys |
| 21:01.21 | rhenani | trying to build mozilla-firefox 5.0 |
| 21:01.38 | valdyn | Eitan: stable / squeeze |
| 21:01.40 | *** join/#debian webad13_ (webad13@213.155.190.134) |
| 21:01.48 | rhenani | I got next error: |
| 21:01.51 | rhenani | http://paste.debian.net/120683/ |
| 21:02.01 | *** join/#debian clauwn (~clauwn@deliberabundus.de) |
| 21:02.04 | Eitan | valdyn: thanks, how many CD's is that ? just trying to run ultra monkey on it |
| 21:02.08 | Eitan | for load balancing |
| 21:02.09 | valdyn | rhenani: wrong channel |
| 21:02.21 | valdyn | !netinstall |
| 21:02.23 | dpkg | hmm... netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 21:02.24 | valdyn | Eitan: ^^ |
| 21:02.39 | Eitan | thank you :) |
| 21:04.00 | rhenani | valdyn: -_- |
| 21:04.03 | *** join/#debian uhm (~uhm@188-223-46-186.zone14.bethere.co.uk) |
| 21:04.24 | clauwn | hey there, i'm running squeeze and i did "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" and afterwards did "sudo aptitude full-upgrade" and now gnome is not starting. gdm3 is started but there is no session on tty7. |
| 21:04.35 | *** join/#debian balleyne (~balleyne@CPE002369def1ec-CM000e5c6dba64.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:04.55 | TheAvatar | I am using nut (UPS package) in squeeze to an HP UPS through serial port. Since Squeeze update, it drops the connection just about daily and I need to restart. I map the serial port through a host to a xen guest. Any ideas? |
| 21:05.04 | TheAvatar | It looks like the serial port is unmapped from the guest |
| 21:05.14 | *** join/#debian efaistos (~efaistos@ns303084.ovh.net) |
| 21:05.35 | *** join/#debian luxor (~quassel@91.178.33.76) |
| 21:05.38 | orl | Black_Prince: it's going to be a bit long, got to load and burn a new live-cd |
| 21:05.48 | *** join/#debian Vespakoen (~Vespakoen@D57D5F22.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 21:05.55 | *** part/#debian mcgreg (~pegasos@p5B161519.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:06.38 | Eitan | valdyn: ever used ultra monkey for load balancing? |
| 21:06.46 | valdyn | Eitan: nope |
| 21:06.46 | Vespakoen | Hey guys! i just installed apache / php on my Squeeze, now when i try to upload a file with PHP, i says the directory isnt writable, how do i find out in what user group apache or php is ? so i can give it more rights ? |
| 21:06.52 | abahkaiyisah | i got it. it's clustering technology |
| 21:07.02 | valdyn | Vespakoen: www-data |
| 21:07.08 | orl | abahkaiyisah: yeah, now you've said it |
| 21:07.24 | Vespakoen | thanks! now how can i give www-data rights to upload files, chmod etc ? |
| 21:07.28 | abahkaiyisah | thanks orl |
| 21:08.08 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@h-9-111.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 21:08.15 | clauwn | well, it seems to be a problem with the nvidia kernel module... i just changed my driver to nouveau and the xserver started |
| 21:08.38 | *** join/#debian mapd (~sas@a81-84-45-39.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 21:08.40 | mapd | hi |
| 21:08.59 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@f052205125.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:09.13 | mapd | have install wheezy + nouveau since 96.43 isnt on wheezy but it says it cant find nouveau_vleux_dri.so |
| 21:11.00 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-114-231.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 21:11.32 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@h-9-111.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 21:11.49 | *** join/#debian G_O_D1 (~marco@host34.190-138-234.telecom.net.ar) |
| 21:11.56 | *** join/#debian pickcoder (~blah@unaffiliated/pickcoder) |
| 21:12.06 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@c-66-177-163-8.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 21:12.06 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@fsf/member/pipeep) |
| 21:12.20 | *** join/#debian ^_^joirene (~chatzilla@121.1.41.5) |
| 21:12.49 | *** join/#debian monkey (~jc-team@176.14.168.36) |
| 21:12.59 | *** join/#debian monkey|2 (~jc-team@176.14.168.36) |
| 21:13.49 | Vespakoen | let me put it this way, if i sudo /etc/.... apache2 start , does php has the 'root' permissions or www-data permissions ? |
| 21:14.39 | mapd | gtg bye |
| 21:15.04 | Bushmills | it has the permissions of the user you configured in apache config to run apache as |
| 21:15.26 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 21:15.32 | abahkaiyisah | is cluster good for webserver ? |
| 21:15.33 | stew | Vespakoen: www-data unless you setup suexec |
| 21:15.33 | Vespakoen | got it! sudo chown www-data images -R |
| 21:16.52 | *** join/#debian Pavel (~pavel@pool-173-75-5-189.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:18.04 | *** join/#debian fredden (~fredden@unaffiliated/fredden) |
| 21:18.23 | jelly-home | or suphp |
| 21:19.06 | jelly-home | because suexec implies #! scripts and other proper executables |
| 21:19.34 | valdyn | abahkaiyisah: yes and no, depends |
| 21:20.12 | abahkaiyisah | valdyn: what is the key factor? |
| 21:20.19 | *** join/#debian monkey (~jc-team@176.14.168.36) |
| 21:20.44 | *** join/#debian walterheck (~walterhec@78.180.93.160) |
| 21:20.59 | valdyn | abahkaiyisah: the non-parallelizable component of your webapp |
| 21:21.44 | abahkaiyisah | ok i see. thanks valdyn |
| 21:21.54 | *** join/#debian monkey|2 (~jc-team@176.14.168.36) |
| 21:22.05 | valdyn | abahkaiyisah: thats typically an sql database |
| 21:22.36 | *** join/#debian Spec (~nwheeler@unaffiliated/spec) |
| 21:22.44 | *** join/#debian manitou (~manitou@3e6b9981.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 21:22.45 | abahkaiyisah | may use mysql cluster ? |
| 21:23.10 | valdyn | abahkaiyisah: relational databases are not suitable for clustering |
| 21:23.51 | abahkaiyisah | what should be used for the database? |
| 21:23.51 | valdyn | abahkaiyisah: are we doing your homework? whats your real question? |
| 21:23.59 | Pavel | I am seeing a Heisenbug in Skype 2.2 for 64-bit Debian. Running "skype" from the menu or from command line causes it to crash within a few seconds of logging in, especially when interacting with the UI. When I run "gdb skype" and execute the program, it seems to work without problems. |
| 21:24.05 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-178-200-137-129.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 21:24.28 | Pavel | Any ideas what might be going on? |
| 21:24.28 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1387.ams-04.nl.sixxs.net) |
| 21:24.50 | valdyn | Pavel: race, probably related to skype doing audio initialisation |
| 21:24.58 | Bushmills | ,versions skype |
| 21:24.59 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~kusanagi@140.87.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 21:24.59 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'skype' was found in i386. |
| 21:25.12 | abahkaiyisah | i prepare a server tech for hi perform but lowest cost |
| 21:25.29 | deepa | abahkaiyisah: postgresql |
| 21:25.41 | abahkaiyisah | thanks deepa |
| 21:25.41 | Pavel | judd: There is a Debian 64-bit version of Skype on their site now. |
| 21:25.51 | valdyn | abahkaiyisah: a relational database is the most versatilie but its not very scalable |
| 21:25.51 | jelly-home | Pavel: judd is a bot |
| 21:26.01 | valdyn | abahkaiyisah: that includes postgres |
| 21:26.07 | *** join/#debian fredden (~fredden@unaffiliated/fredden) |
| 21:26.22 | valdyn | abahkaiyisah: alternatives are more scalable while obviously having to cut back on features |
| 21:26.30 | Pavel | jelly: I guess it just passed the Turing test, then. |
| 21:26.32 | valdyn | abahkaiyisah: this is far beyond the scope of this channel |
| 21:26.40 | jelly-home | Pavel: there's only so much this channel can guess about bugs in 3rd or 1st party software |
| 21:26.57 | Pavel | jelly-home: Fair enough. |
| 21:27.31 | jelly-home | I'm still on old 2.1.0.81 and it doesn't seem to crash that often |
| 21:27.44 | Bushmills | especially when those bugs fall into the responsibility of microsoft :P |
| 21:27.58 | Pavel | valdyn: Sounds plausible; as far as workarounds go, running it under gdb seems to be an easy one. |
| 21:28.18 | abahkaiyisah | valdyn: sorry , because i like debian and will use it |
| 21:28.27 | jelly-home | Bushmills: no, it's not "especially". MS is just another vendor. |
| 21:28.32 | valdyn | Pavel: my skype works fine |
| 21:28.52 | valdyn | Pavel: guess yours is not using pulseaudio then |
| 21:29.08 | Bushmills | jelly-home: microsoft has an unrivalled track record of critical bugs |
| 21:29.12 | Pavel | valdyn: 2.2.0.35 packaged for 64-bit Debian? |
| 21:29.23 | *** join/#debian monkey (~jc-team@176.14.168.36) |
| 21:29.50 | jelly-home | Bushmills: this isn't MS software, and such comments are not relevant for Skype. Yet. |
| 21:30.03 | Bushmills | now it is |
| 21:30.28 | *** part/#debian roovis (rcs@206.74.174.172) |
| 21:30.33 | Bushmills | they're already improving it |
| 21:30.34 | valdyn | Pavel: 2.1.0.81 |
| 21:30.35 | jelly-home | Bushmills: that's not how acquisitions go. #debian-offtopic if you really want to know |
| 21:31.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1123] by debhelper |
| 21:31.13 | *** join/#debian nich0s1 (~nich0s@ip174-71-34-200.om.om.cox.net) |
| 21:31.15 | *** part/#debian nich0s1 (~nich0s@ip174-71-34-200.om.om.cox.net) |
| 21:31.36 | valdyn | Pavel: time to try the new one.. |
| 21:32.07 | clauwn | already solved it, the kernel module was not compatible with the newest one |
| 21:32.09 | clauwn | thanks |
| 21:32.10 | *** part/#debian clauwn (~clauwn@deliberabundus.de) |
| 21:32.36 | *** join/#debian dddbmt_ (~dddbmt@ip1.c356.ksv130.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 21:33.08 | dddbmt_ | a2enmod means "apache2 enable module" - correct? |
| 21:33.14 | daemonkeeper | Yes |
| 21:33.24 | npoektop | why there is no ossec package? |
| 21:33.33 | valdyn | Pavel: debian/amd64/sid, deb from skype.com, works |
| 21:33.51 | valdyn | npoektop: why would there be one? |
| 21:34.22 | *** join/#debian mralk3 (~Brent@c-71-235-235-84.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:34.30 | npoektop | valdyn: why would not? |
| 21:34.38 | dddbmt_ | thanks daeminkeeper |
| 21:34.43 | *** join/#debian sllide (~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 21:34.44 | daemonkeeper | npoektop: License issues, # |
| 21:34.46 | daemonkeeper | 361954 |
| 21:34.52 | *** part/#debian dddbmt_ (~dddbmt@ip1.c356.ksv130.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 21:35.03 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 21:35.18 | npoektop | daemonkeeper: ok |
| 21:35.39 | mralk3 | hello. what do each of the debian installation discs contain? I am trying to locate the disc that contains module-assistant, wireless-tools. I am trying to install the boradcom-sta drivers for my dell inspiron 14r from the current 6.0.1 stable release. |
| 21:36.14 | daemonkeeper | mralk3: I bet, both is on the first CD |
| 21:36.25 | mralk3 | which directory would that be located? |
| 21:37.14 | daemonkeeper | On the CD you mean? |
| 21:37.18 | mralk3 | yes |
| 21:37.45 | daemonkeeper | pool/{m,w} I'd assume. Why do you care? |
| 21:37.48 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 21:38.13 | *** join/#debian digilink (~digilink@70.90.228.197) |
| 21:38.39 | *** join/#debian digilink (~digilink@unaffiliated/digilink) |
| 21:38.52 | mralk3 | daemonkeeper: I was unable to find them. i will take a closer look. I just needed to verify I did not need to download any more of the ISO images. Ty for the info. <3 |
| 21:39.24 | daemonkeeper | mralk3: You can search on http://cdimage-search.debian.org/. |
| 21:40.28 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-88-152-225-144.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 21:41.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1109] by debhelper |
| 21:41.20 | *** join/#debian stepkrav (~step@unaffiliated/stepkrav) |
| 21:41.43 | *** join/#debian kyansaa (~kyansaa@123.241.97.84.rev.sfr.net) |
| 21:41.58 | Pavel | valdyn: Interesting. Do you use PulseAudio? |
| 21:42.05 | valdyn | Pavel: yes |
| 21:43.29 | *** join/#debian monkey (~jc-team@176.14.168.36) |
| 21:44.39 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@h-9-111.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 21:44.40 | Pavel | valdyn: It works inside strace, too... |
| 21:45.31 | Pavel | valdyn: Never mind, it doesn't. |
| 21:46.36 | *** join/#debian lolmatic (~kommander@port-92-200-71-229.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 21:50.23 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 21:50.57 | *** join/#debian gm152 (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 21:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1103] by debhelper |
| 21:51.57 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 21:52.59 | Pavel | On the other hand, sometimes running it under strace works, sometimes it doesn't... |
| 21:53.05 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; ping? |
| 21:54.37 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@host249.190-230-162.telecom.net.ar) |
| 21:54.38 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@unaffiliated/se-bash) |
| 21:54.38 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@48-63-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 21:54.38 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 21:54.48 | *** join/#debian Gilde_ (~Gilde@dyndsl-091-096-178-088.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 21:58.09 | *** join/#debian yagoo (~askme@modemcable004.103-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:58.19 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 21:58.34 | *** join/#debian Kazen (~Kazen@541F86A1.cm-5-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 21:59.51 | *** join/#debian aLgEBrA (~holger@p2-001.pptp.ggew-net.de) |
| 21:59.53 | *** join/#debian TAKE_MY_DEMON (~julien@host-212-68-244-112.brutele.be) |
| 22:00.22 | *** join/#debian nvz (~nvz@184.236.156.238) |
| 22:00.41 | *** join/#debian kaolc2 (~c0in@87-104-147-11-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk) |
| 22:00.44 | kaolc2 | I'm trying to run a java .jar that normally searches the Windows registry for some license files and then runs normally. I'm trying to get it to run on debian but it's using a config file instead. Is there any way to make the java vm believe that it's running inside a windows box and pass it specific registry keys and values? Or is there any other way to accomplish this? Help is very much appreciated. |
| 22:01.14 | daemonkeeper | Pervert ideas include to run the JVM in wine? |
| 22:01.18 | orl | Black_Prince: I'm running a 2.6.38 kernel by now, and get approximately (or mightbe stricly, but I can't compare easily) the same thing |
| 22:01.22 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 22:01.30 | peterrooney | so much for "write once, run anywhere" |
| 22:01.38 | nvz | I need a little advice doing a rube goldberg install.. heh. I have internet here through my cell phone but its entirely too slow to install.. so what I wanted to do is take my 80gb hd that has debian installed on it and clone it onto another 80gb drive from another desktop.. they are both roughly 80gb but different make/model and slightly different size |
| 22:01.38 | pickcoder | peterrooney: heh |
| 22:02.09 | *** join/#debian soapie (~lenka@gateway/tor-sasl/gluu) |
| 22:02.14 | *** join/#debian Ivermectina (~Ivermecti@unaffiliated/d33r) |
| 22:02.16 | nvz | since they aren't the exact same geometry I was afraid dd might not do it.. any suggestions? |
| 22:02.26 | boudiccas | clonezilla |
| 22:02.31 | kaolc2 | daemonkeeper, will try |
| 22:02.54 | nvz | clonezilla isn't showing in my package manager |
| 22:03.47 | nvz | finds the website for clonezilla |
| 22:04.20 | nvz | ,versions clonezilla |
| 22:04.22 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'clonezilla' was found in i386. |
| 22:04.31 | nvz | yeah doesnt seem to be in debian at all |
| 22:04.47 | *** join/#debian Cusipzzz (~Cusipzzz@unaffiliated/cusipzzz) |
| 22:04.51 | nvz | but if it will reliably clone drives of slightly different sizes it may be worth checking out |
| 22:05.12 | *** join/#debian arjovr (~seba@host82.186-124-199.telecom.net.ar) |
| 22:05.33 | jelly-home | nvz: do you have a swap partition? |
| 22:06.23 | jelly-home | keep other partitions the exact same size, and resize that one to fit |
| 22:06.25 | nvz | jelly-home: not on the souce drive.. just a single ext3 partition |
| 22:06.28 | *** join/#debian chachan_ (~quassel@190.207.78.68) |
| 22:06.33 | jelly-home | oh |
| 22:06.40 | jelly-home | shrink it to fit |
| 22:06.45 | nvz | jelly-home: for whatever reason I mustve used a swapfile on my desktop |
| 22:06.52 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 22:07.05 | nvz | jelly-home: well the target drive is the bigger one.. its like 83gb |
| 22:07.15 | jelly-home | what's the problem then? |
| 22:07.23 | nvz | jelly-home: idk just never done this before.. |
| 22:07.33 | *** join/#debian Tectu (~quassel@221-112.195-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 22:07.34 | jelly-home | you can just dd the whole drive |
| 22:07.36 | nvz | trying to take a whole install and bootloader from one machine to another |
| 22:07.57 | nvz | jelly-home: what happens to the remaining space? just remains unpartitioned? |
| 22:08.03 | jelly-home | yes |
| 22:08.26 | nvz | jelly-home: so I could then use that extra 2-3 gb to make a swap partition on the target then I guess |
| 22:08.39 | *** join/#debian IceStorm (~icestorm@79-101-211-116.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 22:08.43 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 22:08.44 | nvz | jelly-home: just a dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb should do it? |
| 22:08.51 | jelly-home | yes |
| 22:08.58 | jelly-home | from a livecd |
| 22:09.12 | nvz | jelly-home: can't do it booted from /dev/hda1? |
| 22:09.18 | jelly-home | obviously you don't want to copy from a live system |
| 22:09.21 | *** join/#debian wooden (~anon@user-1087hp5.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:09.21 | *** join/#debian wooden (~anon@pdpc/supporter/active/wooden) |
| 22:09.27 | jelly-home | I guess it's not that obvious |
| 22:09.31 | nvz | jelly-home: ah, well I can tftp boot from my netbook |
| 22:09.37 | *** join/#debian gm152 (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 22:09.52 | nvz | should be able to dd from a netboot install image I suppose |
| 22:10.12 | jelly-home | you can do it in rescue mode while everything is mounted read-only |
| 22:10.32 | nvz | i didn't think just a low-level copy would effect the running system |
| 22:10.56 | nvz | as I said, I've never done anything like this before |
| 22:11.03 | jelly-home | it wouldn't. It would affect the destination |
| 22:11.15 | peterrooney | wonders how many ways things could go wrong copying a live system. |
| 22:11.26 | nvz | jelly-home: so if the source is read-only it will be fine then? |
| 22:11.27 | jelly-home | well it would effect it as well because that's what it's supposed to |
| 22:11.35 | peterrooney | has run out of fingers already |
| 22:11.37 | jelly-home | nvz: right |
| 22:11.53 | nvz | ah well that is doable, I can take it to runlevel 1 and remount ro |
| 22:11.55 | jelly-home | nvz: verify it's r-o and remount if necessary |
| 22:12.01 | jelly-home | yeah |
| 22:12.54 | jelly-home | if your OS uses UUIDs or LABELs to boot or in /etc/fstab it will be muchly confused if you reboot with both disks in after the copy is done |
| 22:12.55 | nvz | I imagine this will be way faster than trying to install from a tethered cell phone with a iptables NAT |
| 22:13.12 | *** part/#debian IceStormi (~icestorm@79-101-211-116.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 22:13.39 | nvz | jelly-home: ah right, well I'm gonna take the target out and put it into another system.. just gotta install and updated kernel, and a few other things.. |
| 22:14.03 | jelly-home | (if the OS is Debian 6, it probably does) |
| 22:14.03 | nvz | jelly-home: I could do that from a chroot or once its in the new machine.. doesnt matter to me |
| 22:14.11 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@fsf/member/pipeep) |
| 22:14.38 | nvz | jelly-home: its 5.0.4 /etc/debian_version says |
| 22:14.54 | nvz | and I originally installed it on a 64bit with a 32bit userland and 64bit kernel |
| 22:15.11 | *** join/#debian don1804 (~dh@host86-154-65-72.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:15.16 | nvz | both machines are now 32bit.. and the only 32bit kernel currently on the system is an old 2.6.26-686 |
| 22:15.46 | nvz | need a newer 32bit kernel at some point.. may just update that on the source drive before I copy.. idk |
| 22:15.52 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 22:16.00 | *** join/#debian m3asmi (~rachid@41.214.238.77) |
| 22:16.01 | jelly-home | if the destination machine boots |
| 22:16.13 | *** part/#debian m3asmi (~rachid@41.214.238.77) |
| 22:16.19 | nvz | I don't see why it wouldn't.. if the copy goes smoothly |
| 22:16.30 | *** part/#debian don1804 (~dh@host86-154-65-72.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:17.01 | nvz | would dd be any faster if there was more free space or is it the same regardless? |
| 22:17.34 | *** join/#debian mr_jrt2 (~j@jamie-thompson.co.uk) |
| 22:17.52 | jelly-home | dd will copy all the free space! |
| 22:17.54 | jelly-home | for free |
| 22:17.55 | nvz | cause there is a buncha stuff on there that are my personal files I will end up deleting from the target anyhow |
| 22:18.32 | nvz | just wondering if it will take longer to copy that than if I just move it all off the source drive now |
| 22:18.54 | nvz | i.e. if free space is faster to copy than data. since its at a block level I imagine its just the same |
| 22:19.17 | jelly-home | you're kidding right |
| 22:19.22 | *** join/#debian nj3ma (~yaaic@41.215.224.90) |
| 22:19.28 | nvz | heh |
| 22:19.30 | *** join/#debian gridl0ck (~cube@pdpc/supporter/bronze/radius) |
| 22:19.35 | nvz | I said I've never done this |
| 22:19.56 | nvz | I know what dd is, I understand it general use.. but I've never used it for anything other than creating a swapfile |
| 22:20.27 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-88-152-225-144.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 22:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1095] by debhelper |
| 22:21.32 | orl | OK, I'm going to sleep |
| 22:21.38 | orl | I'll try to think about it tomorrow |
| 22:21.40 | daemonkeeper | dd copies block wise, no matter of the actual contents of the block. If its zeroed, it copies zeros. That's bad if you have much unused space |
| 22:21.57 | *** join/#debian v3d (~v3d@94.54.231.201) |
| 22:22.02 | nvz | yeah I know that much.. so its the same speed no matter what its copying |
| 22:22.23 | orl | good night everybody |
| 22:22.28 | nvz | just wasnt sure if it would somehow go faster over contiguous free space |
| 22:22.30 | pickcoder | you can always shrink the partition to dump unused space |
| 22:22.38 | daemonkeeper | Not really, its faster if the disk is (almost) fully used. |
| 22:23.00 | daemonkeeper | Since it copies contiguously block by block |
| 22:23.00 | nvz | which means it would be quicker to move my personal data first then copy, than to copy all then delete |
| 22:23.03 | pickcoder | 'course you'll have to regrow it or change your parition usage to get more space back |
| 22:26.13 | nvz | wonder how long this 80gb partition will take. heh.. only one way to find out I guess.. |
| 22:26.36 | *** join/#debian bussiere (~root@nan92-7-88-170-222-153.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:26.37 | jelly-home | an old 80GB PATA disk could maybe do 20MB/s |
| 22:26.39 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF60A8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:26.39 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 22:26.46 | daemonkeeper | 80 GiB sounds like an old disk so the answer is: long. |
| 22:26.49 | nvz | yeah they're both PATA on the same channel |
| 22:26.59 | jelly-home | fail |
| 22:27.06 | pickcoder | heh |
| 22:27.21 | nvz | I have another IDE channel |
| 22:27.33 | *** join/#debian Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc8-reig4-2-0-cust24.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:27.34 | nvz | and I guess as you say I could shrink the partition |
| 22:27.36 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@187.107.20.138) |
| 22:27.38 | jelly-home | dd_rescue has a progress bar! |
| 22:27.46 | daemonkeeper | jelly-home: So has dd |
| 22:27.52 | nvz | dd has progress? |
| 22:27.55 | jelly-home | daemonkeeper: no, dd has kill -USR1 |
| 22:27.56 | nvz | thats news to me |
| 22:28.04 | jelly-home | daemonkeeper: NOT a progress bar |
| 22:28.05 | daemonkeeper | Send it SIGUSR1 as jelly-home said |
| 22:28.18 | nvz | hmm |
| 22:28.20 | frostschutz | dd can show the progress, it can also ignore errors as ddrescue does |
| 22:28.36 | frostschutz | dd is one of the most versatile tools out there ;-) |
| 22:28.38 | jelly-home | but ddrescue != dd_rescue |
| 22:29.01 | pickcoder | tar + bzip2 + nc |
| 22:29.08 | nvz | maybe I should just dd the MBR and use regular filesystem level copy for the rest |
| 22:29.19 | jelly-home | pickcoder: yes. That. Between two local disks. |
| 22:29.24 | *** join/#debian [Raiden] (~kvirc@unaffiliated/raiden/x-2347523) |
| 22:29.25 | nvz | that would probably be quicker |
| 22:29.32 | pickcoder | two local disks? |
| 22:29.37 | pickcoder | hrm |
| 22:29.39 | nvz | that way I can leave out what I dont need on the target |
| 22:29.43 | jelly-home | /dev/hda and /dev/hdb he said |
| 22:29.46 | nvz | i.e. /home/nvz/ |
| 22:29.47 | pickcoder | oh.. didn't see that |
| 22:29.48 | nvz | heh |
| 22:30.25 | nvz | cause it says 48gb used and there is no way the debian install is that big.. 40GB or more is my homedir |
| 22:30.36 | jelly-home | nvz: don't dd the MBR, use sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk /dev/hdb if you want to clone the partition table |
| 22:31.02 | jelly-home | nvz: you'd need to reinstall the boot loader anyway in that case |
| 22:31.08 | nvz | well I can make my own partition table |
| 22:31.15 | nvz | I just wanna copy the bootloader |
| 22:31.23 | jelly-home | MBR is not enough |
| 22:31.31 | nvz | but I suppose if I filesystem level copy it and chroot I can just install the bootloader |
| 22:31.40 | jelly-home | indeed |
| 22:31.51 | *** join/#debian walterheck (~walterhec@78.180.93.160) |
| 22:31.51 | jelly-home | also you get free defragmentation! |
| 22:32.01 | nvz | haha |
| 22:32.17 | nvz | I get confused sometimes installing a bootloader on a chroot |
| 22:32.35 | nvz | I guess technically I dont even need to chroot, I can just do grub-install hd1 |
| 22:32.45 | nvz | since the files will be the same on both drives anyhow |
| 22:34.02 | nvz | so if I use something like rsync will it preserve permissions? |
| 22:34.19 | *** join/#debian chipotle (~chipotle@209-6-67-222.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 22:34.21 | pickcoder | if you specify archive |
| 22:34.59 | *** join/#debian s3a (~ubuntu@ip69-17-251-168.vif.net) |
| 22:36.11 | nvz | ah.. ok.. well I'm gonna try create the partition table manually, then rsync everything but /home and /opt then install the bootloader |
| 22:36.28 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@mail.safeformat.com) |
| 22:36.28 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar) |
| 22:37.08 | nvz | cause that will be copying the least data and only the most significant parts leaving out the shit I got in /home/nvz/ and /opt/ I dont need on the new target |
| 22:37.20 | *** join/#debian error4o4 (~Kate_Libb@109.207.47.108) |
| 22:37.21 | jelly-home | rsync -PaHSx and I can't even remember why I care about sparse files |
| 22:37.34 | nvz | I used to keep debian mirrors.. but I haven't had one since like sarge. heh |
| 22:37.36 | s3a | i reduced a logical volume and i had forgotten to reduce the filesystem first but i didn't run e2fsck or anything. as soon as i noticed i enlarged the thing back and then did e2fsck and reduced the filesystem and then reduced the logical volume properly. it didn't seem to cause any problems but then when i boot through a live cd and try to do update-grub i get: http://pastebin.com/k3VdmzkU |
| 22:37.40 | nvz | I'm used to always having internet |
| 22:37.51 | error4o4 | is there a way to list directories that hold a pregiven+ number of files? |
| 22:38.06 | nvz | jelly-home: this idea has merit though right? I mean I'm not gonna fuck up /dev/ or something? |
| 22:38.10 | error4o4 | because having problems with Inodes. Exceeded limit |
| 22:38.10 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 22:38.40 | nvz | error4o4: ext3? |
| 22:39.16 | *** join/#debian allan8904 (~allan@unaffiliated/allan8904) |
| 22:39.17 | nvz | I've never hit a filesystem limit yet |
| 22:39.32 | jelly-home | s3a: that hostname... frankly, it doesn't look like a Debian system |
| 22:39.40 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@net240-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 22:39.44 | s3a | jelly, it is. the live cd is ubuntu |
| 22:39.54 | s3a | jelly-home not jelly |
| 22:40.10 | pickcoder | error4o4: aren't you on a shared host |
| 22:40.30 | jelly-home | s3a: if that lvreduce-oops-lvextend-resize2fs-lvreduce thing worked, you were very lucky |
| 22:41.13 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; ping |
| 22:41.30 | jelly-home | s3a: do you have a separate /boot? |
| 22:41.40 | s3a | jelly-home, good luck aside lol :), what can i do now? chrooting into it works well but update-grub just screws up slightly |
| 22:41.53 | s3a | jelly-home, all lvm installations do |
| 22:41.57 | s3a | to my knowledge |
| 22:41.59 | jelly-home | s3a: and/or a separate /var? |
| 22:42.01 | s3a | or is that not what you asked? |
| 22:42.14 | s3a | i have a separate /boot by force from lvm and a separate /home |
| 22:42.22 | jelly-home | s3a: are they all mount inside the chroot |
| 22:42.25 | s3a | everything else is unified to / |
| 22:42.26 | jelly-home | mounted, even |
| 22:42.27 | s3a | yes |
| 22:42.37 | s3a | i even binded things |
| 22:42.55 | s3a | it's not the first time i chrooted so i know i'm chrooting correctly |
| 22:43.09 | *** join/#debian Miss_Anthropie (~blob@gssn-5f75756a.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:43.10 | jelly-home | nvz: /dev is dynamic in lenny anyway |
| 22:43.18 | s3a | jelly-home, i had done rm -rf /boot/grub/grub.cfg prior to update-grub |
| 22:43.22 | nvz | actually now that I think about it I have a sata drive in my laptop that has a fairly recent (nearly pristine) install of squeeze on it, but its a 160gb that I'm not sure right now without checking how I split it.. cause I have windows on the first partition |
| 22:43.39 | error4o4 | nvz, pickcoder: trying to figure out which filesystem it is but somehow cant. Its a Debian VPS running on Virtuozo |
| 22:43.45 | nvz | might be a better idea to use that drive instead.. |
| 22:44.07 | *** join/#debian cobrajoker (~cobrajoke@c-66-31-26-241.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 22:44.08 | jelly-home | s3a: you didn't rm /boot/grub/*.lst as well? |
| 22:44.18 | *** join/#debian kytv (~kytv@gateway/tor-sasl/killyourtv) |
| 22:44.25 | s3a | jelly-home, no. i will do that now |
| 22:44.31 | *** join/#debian bemawi (~bemawi@cou82-2-88-180-132-32.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:44.34 | jelly-home | s3a: don't, it's already missing |
| 22:44.59 | *** join/#debian ]3n19m4[ (~]3n19m4@176.Red-83-43-186.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:44.59 | error4o4 | nvz pickcoder: its raiserfs |
| 22:45.02 | jelly-home | s3a: dunno, maybe dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc will make it reinstall things back into /boot/grub/ |
| 22:45.16 | s3a | jelly-home, o wait what about grub-install? |
| 22:45.34 | s3a | wait is that the same thing ish? |
| 22:45.37 | *** join/#debian Zylvain (~Zylvain@2a01:e35:8a07:4aa0:215:afff:fea2:cf66) |
| 22:45.50 | pickcoder | s3a: no |
| 22:45.54 | *** join/#debian magnet (~magnet@silmaril.mithrandir.net) |
| 22:46.49 | s3a | pickcoder, jelly-home, it seems i have no /boot at all. ubuntu's gparted says it's unallocated |
| 22:47.01 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-88-152-225-144.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 22:47.19 | nvz | error4o4: reiserfs has a limit of around 4 billion files.. you're telling me you hit that limitation? |
| 22:47.34 | jelly-home | s3a: ignore what "mount" says inside chroot, cat /proc/mounts to verify it's mounted |
| 22:47.47 | error4o4 | nvz: debian on a VPS. a have 9 000 000 limited |
| 22:47.53 | jelly-home | s3a: inside chroot, umount /boot, then mount it back |
| 22:48.07 | *** join/#debian nardev_ (~nardev@109.175.63.56) |
| 22:48.07 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 22:48.11 | s3a | jelly-home, cat /proc/mounts in ubuntu or debian? |
| 22:48.18 | jelly-home | s3a: chroot so debian |
| 22:48.28 | jelly-home | it doesn't really matter |
| 22:48.33 | pickcoder | nvz: it looks like a virtuozzo limit |
| 22:48.57 | nvz | pickcoder: yeah I was about to say I think he hit a quota.. idk what a virtuozzo is |
| 22:48.57 | jelly-home | s3a: outside of chroot you should see a /path/to/chroot/boot mountpoint active |
| 22:48.58 | error4o4 | pickcoder: yes i gues it is |
| 22:49.01 | s3a | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/n0MztFij |
| 22:49.04 | nvz | error4o4: sounds like this is a problem only the admin can solve |
| 22:49.15 | *** join/#debian bst (~bst@net216-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 22:49.27 | jelly-home | s3a: no /boot there |
| 22:49.34 | s3a | jelly-home, and like i said gparted in ubuntu says there is no boot at all. what use to be boot is unallocated: umount: /boot: not mounted |
| 22:49.38 | error4o4 | nvz: ok. but any suggestion how to find directories which hold many files.. cant believe i have like 9 000 000 files in those 50GB |
| 22:49.39 | s3a | ya |
| 22:49.43 | *** join/#debian malkomalko (~malkomalk@66-234-41-82.nyc.cable.nyct.net) |
| 22:49.52 | s3a | jelly-home, so do i create it using gparted? |
| 22:49.52 | jelly-home | s3a: well then you know what's wrong |
| 22:50.00 | *** join/#debian nik0 (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) |
| 22:50.23 | *** join/#debian delcoyote (~delcoyote@unaffiliated/delcoyote) |
| 22:50.25 | nvz | error4o4: you're looking for directories with large number of files and not size? |
| 22:50.31 | jelly-home | s3a: where did it disappear? pastebin sfdisk -d /dev/sda (or whatever your disk) |
| 22:50.58 | *** join/#debian german_ (~german@r186-48-21-17.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 22:51.01 | *** join/#debian hereforfun (~hereforfu@142.167.130.39) |
| 22:51.13 | error4o4 | nvz: yea large number of files. doing now ls -R | wc -l to see whats holding many files, but maybe some better solution |
| 22:51.18 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:51.24 | jelly-home | error4o4: df -i |
| 22:51.31 | *** join/#debian pierrep (~pierrep@2a01:e35:8aed:8780:225:d3ff:feef:67fd) |
| 22:51.32 | *** part/#debian chachan_ (~quassel@190.207.78.68) |
| 22:51.35 | error4o4 | jelly-home: 100% |
| 22:51.37 | *** join/#debian cookiemon5ter (~matthew@unaffiliated/cookiemon5ter) |
| 22:51.46 | jelly-home | I'm not sure if df -i shows sane values with reiserfs |
| 22:51.59 | *** part/#debian ^_^joirene (~chatzilla@121.1.41.5) |
| 22:52.04 | jelly-home | error4o4: the whole line, please, if you're pasting |
| 22:52.13 | s3a | jelly-home, sfdisk -d /dev/sdb in ubuntu? |
| 22:52.19 | error4o4 | jelly-home: /dev/vzfs 9000000 9000000 0 100% / |
| 22:52.33 | *** join/#debian tlab (~tlab@c-98-223-20-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 22:52.33 | jelly-home | error4o4: do you see the problem :-) |
| 22:52.55 | *** join/#debian phogg (~phogg@173-10-190-217-BusName-washingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 22:53.03 | error4o4 | jelly-home: yea i know the problem. trying to figure out how i reached 9 000 000 files on ~50GB |
| 22:53.18 | jelly-home | runaway something |
| 22:53.19 | *** part/#debian iateadonut (~dan@static-96-254-122-36.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:53.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: hey |
| 22:53.24 | nvz | error4o4: try maybe find . -type f | wc -l |
| 22:53.29 | pickcoder | error4o4: logs? |
| 22:53.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: still having probs? |
| 22:53.36 | jelly-home | nvz: without -type f |
| 22:53.36 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; hi there :) |
| 22:53.46 | *** join/#debian joshsmith (~joshsmith@rrcs-76-79-70-20.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:53.46 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; yes, let me show you |
| 22:54.04 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.26 | error4o4 | pickcoder: not many custom logs, as its a webserver and they are rotated. /var/log has just about 250 files |
| 22:54.29 | s3a | jelly-home, do i do sfdisk -d /dev/sdb in the chroot or host? |
| 22:54.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: not receiving mail locally, or its not sending mail via the 'net? |
| 22:54.42 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; i'm not receiving any emails from the system, and neither is root or mail, its just as if theyve been switched off. |
| 22:54.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm |
| 22:55.15 | *** join/#debian alpharesearch (~markus@24-158-188-124.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) |
| 22:55.34 | jelly-home | error4o4: you could run "find -xdev / > somefile" and inspect the results |
| 22:55.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: can you run `dpkg-reconfigure -freadline exim4-config` again and step through it with me? |
| 22:55.41 | abahkaiyisah | what channel talking about clustering? |
| 22:55.50 | jelly-home | error4o4: /dev/shm/ is a ram disk if you need some place to put that output |
| 22:55.52 | *** join/#debian bkw (~bachman@balder.rxtx.se) |
| 22:55.52 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; yes, thanks |
| 22:56.04 | *** join/#debian saturne (~Momo@zat.oensic.com) |
| 22:56.05 | jelly-home | s3a: doesn't matter |
| 22:56.46 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; riight its loaded and ready |
| 22:56.47 | *** join/#debian Jaif (~jaif@c83-254-86-77.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 22:57.07 | Rienzilla | hmm |
| 22:57.13 | Rienzilla | what is /dev/xconsole? |
| 22:57.14 | s3a | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/tibm5N5P |
| 22:57.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: what do you have seleted? i've got 'mail sent by smarthost; received via SMTP or fetchmail' |
| 22:57.26 | error4o4 | jelly-home: i guess find -xdev / > somefile will list all of the files inside that file? |
| 22:57.47 | boudiccas | first question i've got 2 as my answer but looking at it i think it should be 4 |
| 22:58.08 | jelly-home | error4o4: all of the directory entries on / filesystem, yes |
| 22:58.30 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; you've got 2 so have i but its not picking up local mail |
| 22:58.35 | jelly-home | error4o4: not just files; however, omiting -type f will make it go much faster |
| 22:58.57 | jelly-home | s3a: fun. What's on sda btw? |
| 22:59.08 | s3a | jelly-home, windows 7 |
| 22:59.43 | error4o4 | jelly-home: on 9 000 000 inodes thats gonna be a big txt file i guess. |
| 22:59.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: is the machine internet connected? if there is nothing sensitive in your exim config perhaps you could pastebin it |
| 23:00.02 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; k |
| 23:00.04 | s3a | jelly-home, is my solution as simple as re-create /boot then do update-grub? |
| 23:00.20 | s3a | jelly-home, or likely to be that? |
| 23:00.27 | jelly-home | error4o4: who cares, you're going to stop it anyway when you find that one directory with millions of files |
| 23:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1086] by debhelper |
| 23:01.03 | jelly-home | s3a: that's a possibility. I'd use "gpart" to see is if can find the old /boot |
| 23:01.15 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; where is my exim config please? i've just tried to locate it and found nothing |
| 23:01.20 | jelly-home | s/is if can find/if it can find/ |
| 23:01.32 | error4o4 | jelly-home: but it has to create the file first before i can have a view on it? |
| 23:01.35 | *** join/#debian rynx (~thyx@142.167.130.39) |
| 23:01.37 | jelly-home | s3a: "gpart" is completely unrelated to gparted. |
| 23:01.42 | *** join/#debian bemawi (~bemawi@cou82-2-88-180-132-32.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:01.43 | *** join/#debian magnet (~magnet@silmaril.mithrandir.net) |
| 23:01.51 | s3a | jelly-home, ya i noticed. how do i use it though? |
| 23:01.56 | jelly-home | error4o4: yeah? |
| 23:02.18 | s3a | jelly-home, sudo gpart _______________ what do i fill in? |
| 23:02.24 | jelly-home | s3a: tbh I don't remember |
| 23:02.41 | *** join/#debian mr_jrt (~j@jamie-thompson.co.uk) |
| 23:02.45 | jelly-home | it won't write anything on the disk tho |
| 23:02.58 | s3a | jelly-home, why should i try to find the old /boot anyways? |
| 23:03.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: its /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf |
| 23:03.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: the template is at least |
| 23:03.18 | s3a | jelly-home, it's not like anything important is in there, right? |
| 23:03.28 | jelly-home | s3a: so you don't have to reinstall all the packages in dpkg -S /boot |
| 23:03.36 | jelly-home | s3a: just the kernels! |
| 23:03.57 | error4o4 | jelly-home: if a line is about 100B, on 9 000 000 inodes the file could be about 850MB i think i dont have that much RAM, have to figure out |
| 23:04.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | the other is /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template , but its the full thing (which we probably don't neeed) |
| 23:04.21 | s3a | jelly-home, ya but if i'm in a ubuntu live cd who has it's own kernel loaded into ram and the chroot has internet access, can't i just tell debian to get the /boot contents back? |
| 23:04.26 | s3a | if so, how? |
| 23:04.42 | jelly-home | error4o4: /dev/shm takes 1/2 RAM by default |
| 23:05.10 | jelly-home | s3a: reinstall all the packages and install the boot loader, I guess |
| 23:05.18 | *** join/#debian freakazoid0223 (~matt@pool-173-49-209-91.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:06.29 | s3a | jelly-home, is there a way to automate that? |
| 23:06.37 | *** join/#debian _pepo_ (c837e07d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.55.224.125) |
| 23:06.40 | nvz | well here goes.. I'm gonna try the same idea I had before only I'm gonna use the sata drive from my laptop as a source, its got squeeze.. I'll boot my lenny, and rsync the squeeze install to the target ;) |
| 23:06.43 | _pepo_ | hi friends |
| 23:07.03 | s3a | jelly-home, what if i made a java program that takes the output of apt-show-versions and places each program after sudo apt-get install ? |
| 23:07.34 | jelly-home | s3a: reinstall just those that had any files in /boot, not everything |
| 23:07.53 | s3a | jelly-home, o lol. how do i know which ones have files in /boot |
| 23:08.00 | jelly-home | I just told you! |
| 23:08.01 | *** join/#debian kfxs_owner (4a6fc587@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.111.197.135) |
| 23:08.13 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-88-152-225-144.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 23:08.16 | kfxs_owner | awsome comedy |
| 23:08.19 | s3a | o is it dpkg -S /boot? |
| 23:08.21 | kfxs_owner | solaris patch is 1.7G |
| 23:08.24 | jelly-home | s3a: YES |
| 23:08.30 | kfxs_owner | how big is allof debian? |
| 23:08.39 | jelly-home | kfxs_owner: define "all of" |
| 23:08.44 | s3a | kfxs_owner, are you talking to me? |
| 23:08.55 | s3a | kfxs_owner, or you meant in general? |
| 23:08.59 | kfxs_owner | well a working debian server snas xorg |
| 23:09.04 | kfxs_owner | sans |
| 23:09.09 | kfxs_owner | no pun intended |
| 23:09.11 | jhutchins_lt | kfxs_owner: ~30,000 packages, several architectures. |
| 23:09.12 | jelly-home | kfxs_owner: base system is about 300MB |
| 23:09.15 | kfxs_owner | ;) |
| 23:09.25 | kfxs_owner | patch to solaris 10 is 1.7G |
| 23:09.33 | kfxs_owner | woo weeee |
| 23:09.50 | jelly-home | kfxs_owner: and you need a support contract to get it legally. So? |
| 23:10.11 | *** join/#debian chipotle_ (~chipotle@209-6-67-222.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 23:11.08 | kfxs_owner | hilarious |
| 23:11.14 | s3a | jelly-home, it seems only the kernel needs to be re-installed: http://pastebin.com/KJ3JYT9N |
| 23:11.14 | jelly-home | and offtopic |
| 23:11.28 | s3a | jelly-home, (the wine error is from a poorly compiled wine) |
| 23:12.12 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; http://pastebin.com/j2G3VtKf |
| 23:12.24 | jelly-home | s3a: I wouldn't have noticed that at all, totally filtered it out |
| 23:12.26 | s3a | jelly-home, ok so 1) i recreate /boot 2) re-install 2.6.39 3) update-grub and all should be well? |
| 23:13.03 | jelly-home | s3a: you'll have to install grub again |
| 23:13.08 | s3a | jelly-home, said it just in case |
| 23:13.19 | s3a | jelly-home, ok so 1) i recreate /boot 2) re-install 2.6.39 3) grub-install 4) update-grub and all should be well? |
| 23:13.51 | *** join/#debian oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) |
| 23:14.07 | jelly-home | s3a: yes, but 2) might break when trying to run update-grub |
| 23:14.36 | jelly-home | so actual order of 2-4 might vary |
| 23:14.38 | s3a | jelly-home, by break do you mean screw everything up or just complain? |
| 23:14.42 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; bbiam |
| 23:14.57 | jelly-home | s3a: fail to complete properly |
| 23:15.05 | jelly-home | mostly complain |
| 23:15.15 | s3a | ok so i'll proceed that way |
| 23:15.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: dc_other_hostnames should be the hostname of your computer, not an email address. i'd also suggest setting dc_hide_mailname='true' and (if you do that) set dc_readhost to something (probably the domain you're emailing from) |
| 23:15.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: sure. |
| 23:16.01 | *** join/#debian walterheck (~walterhec@78.180.93.160) |
| 23:16.07 | *** join/#debian bitblt (~qtf@unaffiliated/bitblt) |
| 23:16.31 | jelly-home | s3a: I have no idea what nuked the /boot partition; I suspect it was you messing with gparted that moved the LVM PV partition to sdb1 from sdb2 because gparted likes to do that |
| 23:16.34 | bitblt | anyone here run squeeze/ppc on a mac mini? |
| 23:16.38 | *** join/#debian ceh421 (~chris@184.79.196.93) |
| 23:16.53 | somiaj | bitblt: not the best question to ask -- what is your real question |
| 23:17.00 | jelly-home | !ppc |
| 23:17.00 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:17.01 | somiaj | bitblt: yes people run debian on mac mini's |
| 23:17.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: this is mine http://pastebin.com/Phd5Azht (it should have a one hour expiry) |
| 23:17.15 | bitblt | somiaj: problems with xorg...Xorg -configure dies |
| 23:17.20 | s3a | jelly-home, i hadn't done anything with gparted other than just view the situation so having said that, i suspect the lvreduce but i'm not too sure of myself |
| 23:17.21 | bitblt | won't write a config |
| 23:17.31 | somiaj | bitblt: why do you need an xorg.conf -- it should just use a blank one these days. |
| 23:17.44 | bitblt | need to set some AGP options |
| 23:18.10 | jelly-home | s3a: I wouldn't be surprised if gparted silently reordered partitions around to "fix" things :-| |
| 23:18.21 | somiaj | bitblt: just add an xorgconf with the options you need -- you don't need to generate the whole config. |
| 23:18.34 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; back |
| 23:18.46 | somiaj | bitblt: I don't use X on my mac mini so no experience there. |
| 23:18.49 | bitblt | ah ok, I'll give that a go |
| 23:18.59 | s3a | jelly-home, sounds possible |
| 23:19.05 | bitblt | somiaj: thanks |
| 23:20.03 | _pepo_ | hi friends |
| 23:20.18 | abahkaiyisah | hi |
| 23:20.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: wb |
| 23:20.33 | nvz | abahkaiyisah: not yet, but I'm working on it.. |
| 23:20.37 | somiaj | _pepo_: can't resist -- I'm not your friend guy -- (: |
| 23:21.11 | *** join/#debian iridos (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 23:21.11 | *** join/#debian josh_ (~josh@subterfuge.kci.net) |
| 23:22.14 | jelly-home | I'm not your guy, pal |
| 23:22.16 | _pepo_ | I've upgraded my testing system with dist-upgrade and now I have problemes with OpenLDAP (slapd) : |
| 23:22.20 | _pepo_ | http://paste.debian.net/120701 |
| 23:22.25 | Corey | I'm not your pal, buddy. |
| 23:22.34 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG_ (~speedyg@ip9135cd7a.speed.planet.nl) |
| 23:22.45 | _pepo_ | Please, can you tell me how do I uninstall (remove) this package (slapd) ? |
| 23:23.08 | jelly-home | !localized errors |
| 23:23.08 | dpkg | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. LANG=C apt-get -f install |
| 23:23.24 | jelly-home | _pepo_: can you follow that ^^ |
| 23:23.44 | somiaj | _pepo_: if your running testing you may want to check the officel irc.debian.net (another server) and join #debain-next (its in the topic) |
| 23:24.26 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@215.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 23:24.32 | _pepo_ | ok, the message is: http://paste.debian.net/120702/ |
| 23:24.34 | somiaj | _pepo_: if you can't remove with apt-get remove slapd -- you can use dpkg -r slapd (but that will fail if things depend on it, so you'll have to remove everything that depends on it first) |
| 23:24.36 | *** join/#debian quidnunc (~user@bas1-montreal46-2925428163.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 23:24.50 | quidnunc | I get the following error when trying to install postgres (dpkg) "/var/lib/postgresql/8.4/main is not accessible or does not exist". What is wrong? |
| 23:25.12 | s3a | jelly-home, i still get the same issues but at least it found the kernel so it might boot. i will go to eat now so thanks for your time. i appreciate it :) |
| 23:25.54 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@2.97.82.41) |
| 23:25.58 | jelly-home | _pepo_: if slapd is not running at all, just comment out the lines that try to stop it in /var/lib/dpkg/info/slapd.prerm and .postrm and retry |
| 23:26.20 | somiaj | _pepo_: line 8 looks to be your error -- which comes from the postrm script -- as jelly-home home pointed out where you can find it. |
| 23:26.42 | jelly-home | _pepo_: also, your custom script /etc/init.d/mepinit.sh seems to need adapting |
| 23:27.15 | jelly-home | (at least I hope it's _your_ script and you're not running Mepis or something) |
| 23:28.16 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~kusanagi@140.87.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 23:28.45 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; right, i've amended my exim.confconf but left the last line to stay as mail spool. how do we test it please? |
| 23:29.25 | jelly-home | s3a: bon appetit |
| 23:29.26 | *** part/#debian josh (~jsa@66.172.33.136) |
| 23:29.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: make sure /etc/mailname is valid, then update-exim4.conf |
| 23:30.50 | *** join/#debian eXXe (~jsa@66.172.33.136) |
| 23:31.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1076] by debhelper |
| 23:31.04 | error4o4 | maybe i have found my Inodes overreach problem.. listing the directory /var/lib/php5 hangs the SSH server connection... hmm |
| 23:31.12 | *** join/#debian cfchris6_ (~nobody@unaffiliated/cfchris6) |
| 23:32.13 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; right done, /etc/mailname is set to my isp [talktalk.net] |
| 23:33.11 | error4o4 | the php sessions seemed to be stored there and apparently never got cleaned up |
| 23:33.45 | nvz | my brain is hurting trying to figure out how to install grub on what is now hdd to boot the drive when it becomes hdc with the other drives removed.. heh |
| 23:33.57 | Kamping_Kaiser | not sure if it should be that or not,but give it a try. run `update-exim4.conf` then try sending an email using 'mail' |
| 23:34.17 | *** join/#debian willj (~willj__@24-145-40-016-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net) |
| 23:34.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: also, if you want local mail to be sent to your external email address, you'll need to update /etc/aliases |
| 23:34.23 | nvz | I'm sure I'll remember by the time this is done copying |
| 23:34.37 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 23:34.40 | *** join/#debian Erbureth (~kvirc@94.229.92.83) |
| 23:35.03 | *** join/#debian hiroyuki_y (~yamanaka_@mfac.st.wakwak.ne.jp) |
| 23:35.19 | jelly-home | nvz: device.map (hd2) /dev/hdd or better /dev/disk/by-id/use-correct-disk-here |
| 23:35.27 | Erbureth | Hi |
| 23:35.59 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; how do i send mail via 'mail' please? mail just opens my spool in /var/mail/ and i normally send mail through kmail |
| 23:36.08 | *** join/#debian german_ (~german@r186-48-36-205.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 23:36.21 | nvz | jelly-home: ah.. right, I'm not doing dd so the uuid wont be the same |
| 23:36.36 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; sorry for being such a div |
| 23:36.40 | *** join/#debian fuchur (~fuchur@p508AC72A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:36.48 | jelly-home | boudiccas: echo test | mail -s 'some subject' recipient@example.com |
| 23:37.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | ^^ |
| 23:37.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | recipient@example.com can also be a local user if thats what you want to test |
| 23:37.39 | jelly-home | </div> |
| 23:37.41 | Erbureth | Is there a way to continue a failed build with git-buildpackage? Tried to build Calligra 2.3.72 debian packages, so i grabbed 2.3.71 template and updated the sources. Build went fine up until the package creation, where the missing files caused the process to fail |
| 23:38.06 | *** join/#debian sjs205 (~sjs205@host109-149-135-203.range109-149.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:38.14 | Erbureth | provided that i fixed the lists, can i resume somehow without the need of rebuilding everything from scratch? |
| 23:38.30 | *** join/#debian maum (~maum@210.119.60.152) |
| 23:38.36 | *** join/#debian BarthezZ (~bart@ip51cd391a.speed.planet.nl) |
| 23:38.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | jelly-home: :) |
| 23:40.30 | *** join/#debian Gnudoll (~charline@c-24-130-240-53.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:42.18 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; it doesnt seem to have worked, i sent one email to myself at gmail.com, and one to my talktalk a/c, neither got through |
| 23:43.20 | *** join/#debian walterheck (~walterhec@78.180.93.160) |
| 23:43.29 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-114-231.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 23:43.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: check /var/mail ; does root have bounce messages in their mbox? |
| 23:44.03 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: /var/log/exim4/mainlog has exims logs, thatmight have clues too |
| 23:45.06 | *** join/#debian willj (~willj__@24-145-40-016-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net) |
| 23:45.30 | *** join/#debian maum (~maum@210.119.60.152) |
| 23:45.40 | *** join/#debian Lesterwood (Lester@c-68-40-197-123.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.15 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@204.212.240.159) |
| 23:48.34 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 23:49.59 | _pepo_ | Is there any web page to connec to irc.debian.net just like http://webchat.freenode.net/ ? |
| 23:50.28 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 23:51.32 | TAKE_MY_DEMON | Scan is accepted ? |
| 23:52.03 | TAKE_MY_DEMON | kay_wall_tourelle_thower_of_thunder_ov_deatrh |
| 23:52.10 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; all roots email is set to go to my username spool mbox. http://pastebin.com/8Be0F0t3 shows some of the output from /var/log/exim4/mainlog |
| 23:53.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: you've copied my smarthost - its my isp, they only accept mail inside their netblocks |
| 23:53.22 | *** join/#debian MadViking (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe8efb00-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:53.44 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slvmecha@c-24-91-117-140.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:53.45 | TAKE_MY_DEMON | kay_wall_tourelle_thower_of_thunder_ov_deatrh_securise_me |
| 23:54.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: also, you are coming from loclahost ; thats probably not what you intended |
| 23:54.03 | *** join/#debian pollutey (~Henry@02dc5a7a.bb.sky.com) |
| 23:54.08 | TAKE_MY_DEMON | IBM_can_afford_a_castlethower |
| 23:54.13 | TAKE_MY_DEMON | kay_wall_tourelle_thower_of_thunder_ov_deatrh_securise_me |
| 23:54.14 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 23:54.15 | TAKE_MY_DEMON | sorry |
| 23:54.16 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@212.68.244.112] by themill |
| 23:54.18 | *** kick/#debian [TAKE_MY_DEMON!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (play elsewhere) |
| 23:54.19 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 23:54.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | interestingly, ibm was 100 years old last week |
| 23:54.53 | *** join/#debian Morphous_ (jan@f048131043.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:55.58 | MrFrood | ibm died in the early 90's |
| 23:56.16 | *** join/#debian ManateeLazyCat (~user@111.175.89.141) |
| 23:56.17 | MrFrood | what we have now is a zombie |
| 23:56.29 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; k, i've amended smarthost, i'm not sure what you mean by 'localhost'? |
| 23:56.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: it isn't localhost; look again :) |
| 23:56.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | MrFrood: o.o |
| 23:58.28 | boudiccas | Kamping_Kaiser; you mean localdelivery? |
| 23:58.29 | ManateeLazyCat | Hi all, it's possible run "apt-get update" don't need super user permission? Most source list is no problem, but some source list will output "Haven't permission for file /var/lib/dpkg/lock" if i don't use sudo. |
| 23:59.02 | ManateeLazyCat | I want build a update manager that running when first time connect network. |
| 23:59.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | boudiccas: look at your paste. 1QZX4s-0000UD-Up ** boztu@loclahost |
| 23:59.12 | ManateeLazyCat | And i don't want user input password everytime |
