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| 00:04.42 | dekar | Black_Prince, thanks. I guess you answered my questions ;) |
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| 00:05.44 | dekar | oh well there is still random IO generated by mlocate |
| 00:06.32 | dekar | dpkg tell dekar why mlocate |
| 00:06.48 | dekar | so sad :/ |
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| 00:09.44 | Craigwd_2000 | Something isn't right here...; I can't seem to get digiKam to download the SD Cards entire contents in one go... As far as I can tell even after I used Select All & told it to download the images from the Card Reader I ended up with only image at the end... What gives...? |
| 00:10.01 | Craigwd_2000 | Card's* |
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| 00:22.10 | Craigwd_2000 | Would I just be better off using Picasa 2.7 until digiKam gets fixed/updated...? |
| 00:23.12 | themill | digikam in squeeze is unlikely to ever change (and it works just fine for me) |
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| 00:27.27 | gimpy1302 | Black_Prince: If you are still around, I'm stuck on step 3, I can't figure out what to use for the probe_mask. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737 |
| 00:27.30 | Craigwd_2000 | Themill: That doesn't apply to me since I've enabled both Squeeze & Wheezy just to make sure that I get the best of both worlds... :) |
| 00:27.54 | themill | umm... no. Worst of both worlds is more likely. |
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| 00:29.19 | Craigwd_2000 | Themill: Nope: surprisingly aptitude hasn't even failed me once in terms of its intelligent & very selective dependency resolution skills... :) |
| 00:30.13 | themill | Craigwd_2000: you're running in a completely unsupported, unsupportable and untested configuration. Any bug you have is going to be blamed on mixing releases. As I said, digikam works for me. |
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| 00:31.38 | Craigwd_2000 | If all else fails I can always fall back on the more reliable safe-upgrade instead of full upgrade... Themill: Like I honestly have any other choice with such proprietary & new hardware on-board... :( |
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| 00:40.16 | gimpy1302 | huzzah, I got HDMI audio working! |
| 00:40.31 | themill | !congratulate gimpy1302 |
| 00:40.31 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies gimpy1302, you did it! |
| 00:41.02 | gimpy1302 | Now to watch my first 1080p movie on my new TV. |
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| 00:42.44 | McLovin926 | gimpy1302, how? I've been trying for days to get mine working and can't |
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| 01:17.47 | gimpy1302 | McLovin926: I'm running squeeze, installed alsa-source, used module-assistant to compile and use it, then followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10465858&postcount=21 |
| 01:18.34 | gimpy1302 | McLovin926: I've got an nvidia G210 and since I have two audio cards (mobo and G210) my sound.conf looks like so: options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=-1,0xa |
| 01:19.18 | gimpy1302 | McLovin926: Also, use alsamixer to be sure your card is not muted. MM means muted. |
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| 01:24.35 | nikin | hi. i am setting up a debian server which is to be used for xen. What is the minimum root partition you would suggest for the dom0? |
| 01:25.32 | gimpy1302 | nikin: The size? It depend son how you like to build your system. My prod builds are 20G with a seperate /var and any data stores are seperate. |
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| 01:26.43 | gimpy1302 | Then again, that's my standard for *any* linux system I build. |
| 01:26.56 | nikin | gimpy1302: the plan is to keep the dom0 at a minimum, and put every domU on a separate LVM logical volume |
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| 01:27.40 | gimpy1302 | nikin: Sounds like an alright plan, although I'm not very familiar with Xen. |
| 01:30.04 | nikin | gimpy1302: on my laptop with all the programs i use 6GB of root. Considering using SWAP files instead of DISK that fives an other 4 Gigs + some space to breathe, that will come to 12GB. And i am not planning on having a 6GB system. If my estimations are correct the base system will stop at aroun 1.5 |
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| 01:31.08 | gimpy1302 | nikin: Will root by on LVM and ext4? If so then use can us lvresize to make it bigger and expand the filesytsem for you....live. |
| 01:31.21 | karlpinc | gimpy1302: ext3 will do that as well. |
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| 01:31.57 | nikin | gimpy1302: and it will fragment the LV to two different phisical spaces? |
| 01:31.58 | gimpy1302 | karlpinc: True, but I had ext3 corrupt when I tried to expand it a different way once, so I don't expand ext3 anymore. |
| 01:32.12 | karlpinc | gimpy1302: resize2fs? |
| 01:32.46 | gimpy1302 | karlpinc: Probably, it was 3 or so years ago. |
| 01:32.48 | nikin | And yes... its a RAID1 LVM setup |
| 01:33.59 | karlpinc | gimpy1302: Depends on the ext3. Newer versions will expand dynamically. YMMV. |
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| 01:34.05 | gimpy1302 | Not that ext3 and ext4 are all that different anyway. I've only had to expand an ext4 system a few times. |
| 01:34.33 | gimpy1302 | Hmm, it was an older RHEL box, don't remember the version. |
| 01:34.40 | DasEi | gimpy1302: readability under win is |
| 01:35.16 | gimpy1302 | nikin: Just give yourself enough space to handle problems with apps such as when they start logging like crazy. Why use swap files instead of a swap LV? |
| 01:36.16 | karlpinc | nikin: I agree. Swap on lv is the way to go. |
| 01:36.27 | gimpy1302 | DasEi: Well, that's Windows...and I don't care about Windows or OSX :) |
| 01:36.33 | nikin | gimpy1302: i use LVM on RAID1 ... dedicating swap space on RAID1 is waste of mondey. The amount of ram is planned way beyond expected usage |
| 01:36.48 | nikin | money* |
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| 01:37.27 | karlpinc | nikin: If you're using swapfiles then you've that problem anyway. Perhaps you should raid1 partitions instead of whole drives and reserve other parititions for swap. |
| 01:37.43 | gimpy1302 | nikin: If you are going to mirror root, you should mirror root. If it is on a single disk and that disk dies it's as if you suddenly lost RAM that may have been in use. |
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| 01:38.22 | gimpy1302 | erm, you should mirror swap. |
| 01:38.28 | karlpinc | nikin: gimpy1302 has a point. If you're after reliability (and raid is not a substitute for backup) then you want reliability in swap too. |
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| 01:38.37 | nikin | karlpinc: that makes recovery a lot harder AFAIK, and using swap files... i dont use them... they only get created if there is some big problem. |
| 01:39.52 | karlpinc | nikin: Well then you can create lvs for swap if there's a big problem. And that's one less layer to go through. (Although it does seem to be splitting hairs.) |
| 01:40.04 | nikin | the swap will be RAIDed either way... the question is, should i dedicate lets say 4 Gigs to SWAP, or not. Swap file will be created anyway if needed. |
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| 01:40.57 | karlpinc | nikin: Disk is cheap and it sucks to have the oom killer eating your processes just when load gets heavy. |
| 01:40.57 | jonesst1 | 1 or 2 gb for swap is usually heaps |
| 01:41.00 | gimpy1302 | nikin: Even if you have a ton of RAM, still create some sort of swap. If an app is behaving badly and eats all the RAM it gives you breathing room before the kernel goes OMM and kills your processes. |
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| 01:42.04 | karlpinc | nikin: (Plus, may as well swap out programs that are sitting doing nothing.) |
| 01:42.32 | gimpy1302 | karlpinc: I actually hate it when my workstation does that. |
| 01:42.35 | nikin | gimpy1302: ok then. I create 4 Gigs of SWAP. My experience goes a bit against it. But in some cases like running amavisd (which tends to leak some RAM sometimes) it is a good idea. On other ocasions misbehaving apps eat memory in seconds. |
| 01:42.45 | stew | gimpy1302: then lower your swappiness setting |
| 01:43.10 | gimpy1302 | stew: It doesn't bother me enough to fix it. |
| 01:43.17 | gimpy1302 | is lazy |
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| 01:44.03 | DasEi | gimpy1302: or re-nice annoying apps, also sysctl.conf |
| 01:44.40 | gimpy1302 | DasEi: I'll get around to it eventually, but it usually only happens when I;m away from a machine for a few days. |
| 01:45.11 | nikin | gimpy1302: do copy paste... sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=0 |
| 01:45.31 | gimpy1302 | nikin: 4GB is fine most of the time. My ye-olde Unix co-worker insists 2xRAM up to 32GB. |
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| 01:46.59 | nikin | gimpy1302: 4GB of RAM is planned. The current system which will be replaced has 2.1 GB And average usage ranges from 400 to 1600MB |
| 01:47.02 | gimpy1302 | nikin: I've read of some downfalls of lowering it which I'd want to look into first. I don't like making changes to my work station, to me it's as important as the mail backbone servers... |
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| 01:48.15 | nikin | gimpy1302: i ran netbooks with SSD-s and there you kill swapping the first second... didnt see any problems in years. |
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| 01:49.22 | nikin | So we can agree then on 10GB of / (planned usage is around 2-3 GB) and 4 GB of SWAP |
| 01:50.07 | gimpy1302 | I'd go bigger on root, but it al depends on how much storage you can allocate to the system in the first place. |
| 01:50.14 | nikin | and i will resize it if needed. The FS would be ext4 then |
| 01:50.28 | gnarface | swap is easy to add later |
| 01:50.58 | nikin | the system has a 500GB of disk space |
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| 01:52.16 | nkuttler | yeah, 10G for / isn't much. but then, 10G / doesn't really mean anything by itself |
| 01:52.32 | gimpy1302 | It's your system, make it whatever size you want. I just like to make them big enough so that I never get a ticket on disk usage and have to fix it. Are you going to have a seperate /var or others? |
| 01:52.57 | nikin | nkuttler: i use 6GB on my work maschine now. And it will be a Xen system |
| 01:53.45 | nkuttler | what gimpy1302 said |
| 01:54.20 | nikin | gimpy1302: i will have a separate var. But there i am trapped agin. As i dont know how mouch i will need. All real work will be on the domU -s |
| 01:54.27 | gimpy1302 | Also, if other people have access to the system they might do bad things and fill up the disk *cough* DBAs *cough* |
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| 01:55.18 | nikin | gimpy1302: noone will have access to the dom0. just the VM-s |
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| 01:56.08 | gimpy1302 | My prod builds are 200MB /boot outside of LVM, 20GB /, 10GB /var, 2xRAM up to 32GB swap within LVM. Data such as mail spools on a mail server are seperate LVs. Then again, everyone has their own recipe. |
| 01:56.32 | nikin | that is the major reason for me to move to virtualisation. People where overusing the system, and this way i can limit them efficiently, or move them to an other hardware if needed |
| 01:57.25 | leefan | why is my laptop utilizing almost all of the cpu to transfer files onto a usb drive... |
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| 01:58.00 | nikin | gimpy1302: why /boot outside LVM? |
| 01:58.58 | gimpy1302 | nikin: Because the RHEL installer (anaconda) made me when I started building systems. Not sure if it still makes you do that. |
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| 01:59.52 | gimpy1302 | leefan: What process is using the CPu the most when it happens? |
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| 02:05.38 | leefan | gimpy1302: mount.ntfs |
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| 02:06.18 | gimpy1302 | leefan: Are you copying from NFS to USB? |
| 02:06.36 | leefan | from ext3 to an ntfs usb |
| 02:06.41 | leefan | owait |
| 02:06.46 | leefan | its going from ntfs to ntfs |
| 02:07.02 | nikin | dualboot? |
| 02:07.12 | leefan | yea |
| 02:07.20 | gimpy1302 | Whoops, read that as nfs...but yea, there ya go. That's FUSE for ya. |
| 02:07.28 | leefan | o really? |
| 02:07.32 | leefan | any way to speed it up? |
| 02:07.50 | gimpy1302 | You could not use Windows and stick with Linux filesystems. |
| 02:08.06 | leefan | well i still need windows on this for school |
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| 02:08.09 | nikin | leefan: you can reformat your USB to Fat32.. if you do not have 4+ GB files |
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| 02:08.29 | leefan | does fat32 have much better performance? |
| 02:08.30 | bdp | got a question if someone could direct me, lol |
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| 02:08.37 | leefan | because i do have 4g+ files |
| 02:08.42 | gimpy1302 | bdp: Ask. |
| 02:08.44 | leefan | but if the performance gets a massive boost |
| 02:08.47 | leefan | i don't mind splitting |
| 02:08.51 | nikin | leefan: then you can not use fat32 |
| 02:08.59 | nikin | og |
| 02:09.01 | nikin | oh |
| 02:09.19 | bdp | i got a palm pre i loaded xorg server onto, and loaded an image of debian onto, it is completely up to date, and running lxde on it, only issue im having is dbus wont configure, i've tried everything i know |
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| 02:09.31 | boudiccas | leefan; what do you use for school that doesnt have naything comparabale on linux? |
| 02:09.49 | nikin | leefan: it should by logic. but i have no winbox since 2005 |
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| 02:10.02 | bdp | and it seems to not work, even reinstall it, the issue is it just floods with cant connect and cant bind errors when i run any window manager. so is it safe to just remove since it isn't working, and if so what will be effected.. |
| 02:10.21 | leefan | visual studio - we often get visual studio projects to work with as well as test manager files |
| 02:10.37 | boudiccas | leefan; fair enough |
| 02:10.49 | bdp | any window manager says it can't connect to configure dbus, they work fine but its really slow due to the error and it keeps repeating it 10-20 times a second. |
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| 02:12.52 | nikin | leefan: leefan if you need a common partition for win/linux maybe ext2 would be better if you are using linux more |
| 02:13.13 | leefan | hmmm |
| 02:13.19 | leefan | alright |
| 02:13.31 | leefan | mainly its that i'm using my firefox profile for iceweasel |
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| 02:13.42 | leefan | and likewise for thunderbird |
| 02:13.43 | leefan | haha |
| 02:14.44 | nikin | http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=23220 |
| 02:15.10 | leefan | yea i installed that |
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| 02:15.21 | leefan | but for somereason im still not picking up the ext2 drives through windows |
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| 02:18.39 | user__ | does anyone know how to remove a drive from a RAID1 array in mdadm? failing that, a manpage or web guide would suffice |
| 02:18.45 | user__ | can't seem to find anything relevent |
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| 02:19.44 | nikin | leefan: what is the speed you are getting on your copy bytheway? |
| 02:20.04 | leefan | like fluctuations between 1Mb/s and 10 MB/s |
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| 02:22.35 | nikin | leefan: if you have time you could try the FAT32 aproach.. that remove one round of FUSE which might speed up things |
| 02:22.46 | leefan | hmmm |
| 02:22.48 | leefan | i suppose |
| 02:23.05 | leefan | its not too big of a problem usually, just that its over the summer so i do a lot more batch transfers |
| 02:23.16 | leefan | thanks! |
| 02:23.17 | rwt | i am have some trouple with mirrors.... they are going extremly slow and I dont know if the problem is on my end or the servers ends\ |
| 02:23.37 | nikin | rwt: speedtest.net ? |
| 02:23.53 | rwt | mirrors.leaseweb.com is crawling at 3kb/s a second... so are many others i try |
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| 02:24.07 | rwt | 100Mb/s |
| 02:24.16 | rwt | wget leasweb test file |
| 02:24.18 | rwt | full speeds |
| 02:24.50 | nikin | rwt: then the problem should not be on your side |
| 02:25.56 | rwt | i gave tryed many i have tried many other mirrors to though |
| 02:26.00 | rwt | and they are the same |
| 02:26.13 | rwt | here is my sources.list |
| 02:26.15 | rwt | http://pastebin.com/YBryuGTs |
| 02:27.43 | rwt | should be on pastbin now... had to enter capatcha |
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| 02:31.13 | nikin | rwt: this is mine: and works fine now http://pastebin.com/GrcEafTN |
| 02:32.05 | rwt | i will try it... are the official debian repos throttled? |
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| 02:33.17 | nikin | wrgh the debian installer tricked me again... didnt ask for a root password... and now i cant log in |
| 02:33.37 | gimpy1302 | nikin: It did ask. |
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| 02:34.20 | rwt | still at a crawling speed, i am going to contact the host about it |
| 02:35.18 | nikin | gimpy1302: if it did, and i hit enter it should be blank... that does not work... |
| 02:36.18 | gimpy1302 | nikin: Squeeze? When it asks for a root password and you leave it blank it sets up sudo for the first user, which it then asks you to create. |
| 02:37.03 | nikin | didnt ask for a user either |
| 02:37.21 | nikin | i think it is my bad... i used expert install |
| 02:37.36 | nikin | anyway recovery mode should help |
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| 02:37.58 | Section58 | hi guys and gals |
| 02:38.08 | Section58 | i seem to be having a space issue |
| 02:38.13 | Section58 | http://pastebin.com/xRDJAsBD |
| 02:38.23 | boudiccas | Section58; so do NASA |
| 02:38.41 | gimpy1302 | Section58: So use du to find the usage: du -sh /* |
| 02:39.03 | Section58 | well as you can see its not at 100% useage yet |
| 02:39.06 | gimpy1302 | Section58: 5.2GB is pretty small for a root partition though. |
| 02:39.10 | Section58 | but my website files are moaning that No space left on device etc |
| 02:39.21 | Section58 | unsure why it can't use this 512mb that is left |
| 02:39.26 | Section58 | i guess its not reporting properly |
| 02:39.28 | Section58 | or broken |
| 02:39.36 | nikin | Section58: reserved for root ? |
| 02:39.42 | Section58 | yea gimpy its only a lil vm :( |
| 02:39.53 | gimpy1302 | nikin: Ding ding. That was what I was going to say. |
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| 02:40.00 | Section58 | it was touching closer to 100% 5 days ago when i had the same problem |
| 02:40.28 | gimpy1302 | Also, different tools report slightly different usage sometimes. |
| 02:40.28 | Section58 | but my 'find out whats taking the space' commands were extremely slow to respond |
| 02:40.28 | nikin | gimpy1302: :) recovery mode, and passwd did the trick :D |
| 02:40.34 | Section58 | so i had to guess and cleaned apt-cache and stuff like that for a quick fix |
| 02:40.40 | gimpy1302 | Section58: du takes time depending on hardware and what sort of files it has to look though. |
| 02:41.02 | Section58 | yeah harddrive speed on this vm node isn't its strong point |
| 02:41.06 | gimpy1302 | Section58: Unless it is looking though an NFS share or something by mistake. |
| 02:41.24 | Section58 | no NFS that i am aware of |
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| 02:42.36 | Section58 | yeah your sujested du -sh /* command seems to be hanging when its looking at /home |
| 02:42.45 | Section58 | i think i have thousands of little cache files in there |
| 02:43.05 | gimpy1302 | Section58: Many little files takes longer than few big files. |
| 02:44.09 | Section58 | so asuming on that logic du -sh /home/steve/* might work better in this case |
| 02:44.18 | Section58 | as its going to be there where all the crap is |
| 02:44.46 | gimpy1302 | Section58: You could do /home/steve to see the usage of that dir, /home/steve/* to see the usage of everything inside that dir. |
| 02:45.18 | Section58 | yeah it would be everything in it |
| 02:45.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | allnon hidden |
| 02:45.32 | Section58 | looks like i need to do some ftp backup/removes on there |
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| 02:51.39 | railshero | i removed some package but still configuration filese are there, how can i remove that with aptitude ? |
| 02:51.49 | railshero | rc --- |
| 02:52.09 | gimpy1302 | railshero: aptitude purge whatever |
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| 02:54.45 | railshero | thanks |
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| 03:03.27 | Section58 | haha du is still going :) |
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| 03:04.26 | gimpy1302 | Section58: for 5GB? Sound like you need new hardware. |
| 03:05.31 | gimpy1302 | Section58: I just did it on 3.7TB in under a second....but that was only with a dozen or so folders in the first level. |
| 03:05.32 | Section58 | tell goscomb :) |
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| 03:06.19 | Section58 | i am attempting to grab stuff via ftp, the que atm is on 2100 files and its still on the first dir |
| 03:06.38 | Section58 | i think its having so much trouble cause there are thousands of lil files in keyed dirs |
| 03:06.55 | Section58 | xml caches for every api pull i have ever done or something :) |
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| 03:09.59 | nikin | Section58: if you have console login... then maybe after you have some MB of free space, you could tar.gz the files together |
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| 03:13.44 | Section58 | thats an awesome idea nixoeen |
| 03:14.01 | nixoeen | Section58: heh ?! |
| 03:14.08 | Section58 | i think tho, that this might abstruct apache slightly |
| 03:14.12 | Section58 | :) |
| 03:14.59 | nikin | Section58: why so? |
| 03:15.40 | Section58 | apache would want to read whats inside the compressed tarballs |
| 03:16.01 | Section58 | i could make my site static, tho, and get them to just download the whole thing as a file |
| 03:16.03 | Section58 | that would work |
| 03:16.05 | Section58 | :) |
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| 03:19.00 | optraz | hi, where does pdns_recursor sync its mapping from? |
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| 03:20.57 | Section58 | erm #powerdns ? |
| 03:22.12 | nikin | Section58: if there are XML files, they are highly compressible... that means if you make some free space beforehand, you can leave the originals there |
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| 03:27.02 | Section58 | yeah nikin sorry, i was trying to be funny, but failing |
| 03:27.26 | Section58 | the files involed are required by php to be used for data collection from functions |
| 03:27.37 | Section58 | compression or moving them isn't possible |
| 03:27.42 | Section58 | i will have to find something else |
| 03:27.51 | Section58 | update : 40k files, 315mb .... |
| 03:29.19 | nikin | Section58: cant you move them to a db? |
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| 03:34.29 | Section58 | that was the whole point of the cache files |
| 03:34.34 | Section58 | to keep db useage down |
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| 03:34.51 | Section58 | whatever the case, i seroiusly need to rethink this setup |
| 03:37.37 | nikin | Section58: how mouch RAM do you have on the VPS? |
| 03:38.13 | Section58 | 256 |
| 03:38.21 | Section58 | it was 128 but was capping out all the time |
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| 03:38.32 | Section58 | they wanted to change my package to up my swap |
| 03:38.46 | Section58 | but i just went with a ram upgrade cause i already had stuff on there |
| 03:39.42 | Section58 | apache has already been downtweaked to run like 2 servers with 10 children or something |
| 03:39.48 | nikin | Section58: i dont know for sure, but my guess is that 7kb is faster out of DB then from a VPS disk |
| 03:39.50 | Section58 | the default spec was too hardcore for her |
| 03:40.05 | Section58 | yeah are probably totatlly right |
| 03:40.28 | Section58 | trying to scan this disk atm is time consuming |
| 03:40.36 | nikin | Section58: did you consider switching to an other webserver? |
| 03:40.59 | nikin | lighttpd or nginx? |
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| 03:41.00 | Section58 | this vps was selected for its location over anything else |
| 03:41.09 | Section58 | its quite expensive for what i get from it |
| 03:41.16 | Section58 | but the bw its premium |
| 03:41.25 | nikin | Section58: i meant the software :) |
| 03:41.57 | Section58 | so its good for my radio streaming and mumble stuff |
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| 03:41.58 | Section58 | fair |
| 03:42.02 | Section58 | no apache for life |
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| 03:42.13 | Section58 | lighthttd for maybe static files |
| 03:42.17 | Section58 | never really thought about it |
| 03:42.41 | Section58 | the code the runs on the server is quite heavy |
| 03:43.10 | nikin | Section58: self made? |
| 03:43.23 | Section58 | yeah, i try and keep the code as clean as possible |
| 03:43.38 | Section58 | but some of the crons will do 1000 querys per cycle |
| 03:43.51 | nikin | Section58: ouch... |
| 03:44.00 | Section58 | there is so much data it needs to loop thu |
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| 03:44.06 | Section58 | i don't know another way to get around it |
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| 03:44.52 | nikin | Section58: can i ask what kind of data are you handling? and what the db size is? |
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| 03:45.32 | Section58 | its character data via api and dumps for eve online |
| 03:45.57 | Section58 | the size is touching about .... |
| 03:46.10 | Section58 | i would tell you the size, but phpmyadmin says no atm |
| 03:46.14 | Section58 | due to the lack of space |
| 03:46.24 | Section58 | its quite massive |
| 03:46.50 | Section58 | lets pretend its fresh on day one |
| 03:47.00 | Section58 | it will double in size by day 2 |
| 03:48.23 | Section58 | it would have char info for 'now' 24 hours, 48 hours, 7 days etc |
| 03:48.31 | Section58 | set up for ease of query |
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| 03:48.50 | Section58 | so it doesn't have to sum and count all the time |
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| 03:49.27 | nikin | Section58: so your crons generate all the old stuff, and you generate and cache the rest on-the-fly? |
| 03:50.13 | Section58 | it will compare new with old, make stats |
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| 03:50.21 | Section58 | old is then replaced with new |
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| 03:51.11 | Section58 | i use multible api's to obtain the main data chunk |
| 03:51.39 | nikin | Section58: you only generate data by crons? and collect throught api. Or you generate some on query? |
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| 03:51.55 | Section58 | the api source uses a 'cached till x time' so the file cache is so it doesn't block me |
| 03:53.28 | Section58 | via query and api pulls, then comparing |
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| 03:53.51 | Section58 | the file cache is a middle man between the server and the api source |
| 03:54.46 | nikin | Section58: i see. how is your cpu usage? |
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| 03:58.43 | Section58 | when its busy running ? |
| 03:58.49 | Section58 | will sit on about 70% |
| 03:59.01 | Section58 | normal useage is practicly 0% |
| 03:59.16 | Section58 | i think the vm is set to allow me to use all the cores on the quad |
| 03:59.32 | nikin | Section58: then there is maybe use for onthefly compression/decompression .. |
| 03:59.54 | Section58 | cause of the spare cpu ... |
| 03:59.57 | Section58 | yeah good point |
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| 04:02.05 | Pryon | gah |
| 04:04.07 | nikin | Section58: i read somewhere that normal gzip compresses the average xml to about 50% |
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| 04:05.52 | Section58 | o yeah man |
| 04:05.56 | Section58 | probably even more |
| 04:06.07 | Section58 | text files will love being compressed |
| 04:07.02 | jonesst1 | I would have thought mor elike 6:1 |
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| 04:08.26 | nikin | my info is from here: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-tipcomp/index.html |
| 04:08.28 | gnarface | for xml i would have thought like 10:1 |
| 04:09.02 | gnarface | since best-case for gzip is about 10:1 compression (best on text files with lots of redundency, like xml) |
| 04:09.37 | nikin | gnarface: 10:1 is something i had for PS files containing a generated, very high number of the same object on different positions |
| 04:10.06 | nikin | XML is not that redundant |
| 04:10.55 | nikin | also one doesnt have to use the best compression... there is a speed/size optimum somewhere |
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| 04:11.07 | gnarface | well gzip is made to be optimized for speed |
| 04:11.27 | gnarface | bz2 is optimized for space (and better compression of binaries, which gzip tends to suck at, size-wize) |
| 04:11.47 | nikin | gzip is better on xml than bzip ... see the link i put |
| 04:12.14 | gnarface | gzip is the only one commonly supported by browsers, so if this is for transparent decompression at the client-side you're pretty much stuck with gzip for all practical purposes |
| 04:12.31 | gnarface | great way to save bandwidth though |
| 04:12.32 | nikin | gnarface: you are right.. but thats not the case |
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| 04:13.42 | nikin | gnarface: for profile, this case is about a larga amount of frequently recalculated data |
| 04:13.43 | ShaunR | there was a program for debian that would trick the system into thinking it was a i386 machine rather than x86_64, anybody remember what it was called |
| 04:14.08 | gnarface | ShaunR: you mean chroot? |
| 04:14.36 | ShaunR | no, chroot as far as i know doesnt trick a system into thinking it's running a i386 kernel |
| 04:15.55 | ShaunR | n/m found it... linux32 :) |
| 04:15.59 | gnarface | ShaunR: i'm somewhat confused about why you need to do this. i run a number of 64 bit systems and execute i386 code on them just fine without having to fool the kernel.... |
| 04:16.47 | ShaunR | it's useful some times when compiling code to run linux32 gcc prog.c |
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| 04:49.44 | xrfang | what is the difference between use update-rc.d to add an init script and just write the command directly in rc.local? |
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| 04:52.02 | gnarface | xrfang: runlevel control, system V compliance |
| 04:52.21 | Vasistha | xrfang: in the future maybe an automatic software update might redo it, and then it's nice if the init script has the proper info so the update happens properly. That's the only difference I can detect. |
| 04:53.36 | gnarface | Vasistha: that's basically what i said |
| 04:54.22 | gnarface | xrfang: there are features of the init script setup you probably aren't utilizing directly (though your system is) |
| 04:54.40 | gnarface | xrfang: i still use rc.local for quick patches that i know i want globally |
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| 05:01.07 | xrfang | gnarface, thanks |
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| 05:03.05 | xrfang | I am studying deb package for the nginx server, and wonder why it set the owner of its log file to www-data:adm, the default (if I compile) is root:root, is there any security problem with log files being owned by root? |
| 05:03.21 | stew | also init scripts can be called with stop and restart, and you can influence the order in which they run |
| 05:03.55 | xrfang | also, the redis deb package set the process owner (as well as data directories) to redis:redis, why it can't juse use nobody:nobody? |
| 05:04.13 | stew | xrfang: they are owned by www-data so that the web server process can run with reduced privileges and still be able to write to the log file. they are owned by the group adm because that group exists solely as a group you can put people into go get access to read log files |
| 05:04.35 | xrfang | I would like some suggestions on best practice of setting file/process owner (for security or whatever reason). thanks! |
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| 05:05.53 | stew | xrfang: it looks like redis wants to be able to write to disk, which is something you wouldn't want to give to "nobody" |
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| 05:12.09 | gnarface | xrfang: i think the only security issue with leaving the logs written as root:root is that you have to then sudo or be root to read them, or else add more lenient permissions, both of which are a big no-no. debian's standard group policies where they differ from the source package are for ease of administration without sacrificing TOO much security, typically. www-data, adm allows adm group to read logs and www-data to write th |
| 05:12.09 | gnarface | em (which your web server under debian's package will run as by default) |
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| 05:13.22 | gnarface | xrfang: that way if you want dev users to read the logs without giving read access to everyone, or giving sudo or root password access to them, you can just add them to the adm group as necessary. make any sense? |
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| 05:13.52 | gnarface | that way nobody gets to read logs who shouldn't AND you don't have to give out root/sudo access. |
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| 05:14.01 | gnarface | best of both worlds |
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| 05:23.45 | extraclassic | i have a virtualbox question i thought someone might know the answer to...i installed a vm through the command line and am starting it headless...I set it to bridged networking and specified an adapter, but when it boots up all I have is a loopback interface |
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| 05:31.47 | buhman | when aptitude says "X not upgraded", how do I find out what package that is, and should I be worried? |
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| 05:43.32 | Tectu | when i have an console application, which requires a string input, such as a login name, and i have a c program written on my own, which prints that string by using printf(), how can i pipe the program output to the other application? |
| 05:44.20 | Ichigo | Does postfix have its own logfile somewhere? |
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| 05:45.12 | wols | Tectu: <yourapp> | <otehrapp> |
| 05:45.21 | wols | Ichigo: /var/log/mail.log |
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| 05:45.44 | Tectu | ah, i thougt something like this, wols: otherapp < ./myapp |
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| 05:46.07 | cesurasean | Setting up the Chroot happens by adjusting the `ChrootDir' Directive within your `httpd.conf'. - how do i use this?? |
| 05:46.11 | wols | Tectu: that only works with otherapp < somefile |
| 05:46.13 | Ichigo | wols, That's what I thought, it's just not showing anything then. |
| 05:46.24 | Tectu | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.34 | wols | Ichigo: by default it does log every mail processed |
| 05:46.53 | Ichigo | Ah, well I'm trying to figure out why postfix isn't actually starting |
| 05:47.19 | wols | usually your config is wrong :) |
| 05:47.26 | cesurasean | do i just need "ChrootDir "/usr/local"" or such for this to work? |
| 05:47.34 | Tectu | wols: okay, this one: ./myapp | echo gives an empty line, but my program works. Is it, because echo is not for such tests? |
| 05:47.45 | cesurasean | Ichigo, look at your logs |
| 05:47.51 | Ichigo | I assumed so. I've looked at so many debian guides on getting a mail server set up, one of them probably screwed me up somewhere, so I was hoping the log would show me what was wrong in the config :p |
| 05:47.52 | wols | there also is mail.loc |
| 05:47.57 | gnarface | Ichigo: does /var/log/mail.err, mail.info or mail.warn have anything that mail.log doesn't that is useful? |
| 05:47.58 | wols | erm, mail.err |
| 05:48.48 | Ichigo | Jun 29 22:49:35 g6950-21596 postfix/master[9016]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use |
| 05:48.52 | Ichigo | Well now I'm getting that |
| 05:48.57 | Ichigo | But postfix claims it's not running |
| 05:49.01 | Ichigo | Humph. |
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| 05:49.35 | gnarface | Ichigo: sounds like you're on a virtual machine |
| 05:49.36 | wols | Ichigo: but something is. so check what |
| 05:49.47 | Ichigo | gnarface, Nah, I'm not. |
| 05:50.22 | wols | Ichigo: netstat -anplt |grep 25 |
| 05:50.23 | gnarface | Ichigo: well wols is right though...SOMETHING is binding that port globally already by the time postfix tries to start.... |
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| 05:51.04 | Ichigo | Ohai sendmail. |
| 05:51.14 | Ichigo | That was it. |
| 05:51.21 | Ichigo | Sendmail was running on it. |
| 05:51.21 | gnarface | kill it with fire |
| 05:51.22 | wols | sendmail was uninstalled when postfix was installed |
| 05:51.24 | Ichigo | Ahah |
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| 05:51.44 | Ichigo | Yeah, I killed it and it started up now. |
| 05:51.46 | Ichigo | \o/. |
| 05:51.48 | Ichigo | Thanks. |
| 05:51.49 | wols | Ichigo: what debian is this? |
| 05:51.49 | gnarface | wols: only if sendmail was installed packaged... instead of by source.... |
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| 05:52.47 | Ichigo | wols, squeeze |
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| 05:54.32 | Ichigo | 221 2.7.0 Error: I can break rules, too. Goodbye. |
| 05:54.34 | Ichigo | o_O How rude. |
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| 06:02.55 | paul9548712 | Hey ! Do you know if it s possible to pass to $_POST random content in While 1 loop ? |
| 06:04.15 | gnarface | paul9548712: sounds like a php question, not a debian question |
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| 06:04.47 | gnarface | paul9548712: as for the answer to your question however, yes in theory but probably not the way you mean to |
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| 06:05.19 | paul9548712 | well it s not a real php question |
| 06:05.33 | paul9548712 | cause i am not looking to do something in php |
| 06:06.07 | paul9548712 | i just wana try a vuln on a friend website, i am not sure if it s a vuln or not |
| 06:06.17 | Phoul | lol. |
| 06:06.19 | paul9548712 | :D |
| 06:06.36 | gnarface | well as far as i understand it, php handles importing post and get data when the script initializes, and is done before line 0 of your code even gets run. so if you were to add data to POST during a while loop, you'd probably have to do it internally to the php. sending a NEW post from the client end would just cause apache to fork off a brand new php process. not what you want |
| 06:07.03 | paul9548712 | well k |
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| 06:08.36 | gnarface | that doesn't mean your friend's site is safe though. vulnerability testing is highly prudent with more recent web apps, especially the PHP ones. most of the world's existing PHP code that i didn't personally write is massively insecure. |
| 06:08.50 | gnarface | aww... too late to save him |
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| 06:21.24 | jaggz | how do i get postfix to use /etc/aliases if the virtual mailbox maps fails to match? |
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| 06:22.38 | debby90 | anyone have experience setting up wifi on a lenovo t410? |
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| 06:24.11 | somiaj | debby90: not really the best question, but what is the chipset? |
| 06:24.17 | wols | debby90: get firmware-linux-nonfree and it will work |
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| 06:27.06 | debby90 | wols: thanks for the help, doing it now.. |
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| 06:27.19 | debby90 | somaij: lspci says: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 |
| 06:27.36 | deeLer | goodmorning it-crowd |
| 06:29.07 | debby90 | wols: ok, i install that package. would i need to restart? |
| 06:29.35 | somiaj | debby90: should just need to remove and reload your wireless module so it detects the firmware |
| 06:29.41 | somiaj | debby90: a restart does that but not needed. |
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| 06:36.06 | debby90 | somiaj: i tried modprobe iwlagn but it didn't work. is that command correct? |
| 06:36.36 | somiaj | debby90: is that the name of the module? You will probabaly have to remove it first with rmmod, also check dmesg to see why it didn't work |
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| 06:37.50 | somiaj | debby90: http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn -- looks like you need the firmware in firmware-iwlwifi package -- also double check the support list to make sure your card is supported. |
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| 06:38.44 | debby90 | http://pastebin.com/UT6364f2 |
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| 06:39.51 | debby90 | somiaj: downloading that package now.. thanks for all the help! |
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| 06:41.41 | debby90 | somiaj: Perfect! it's working now. Thanks again guys! |
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| 06:42.48 | ompaul | have we a direct link to the nonfree firmware? |
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| 06:43.13 | somiaj | ompaul: in the non-free repo of course |
| 06:43.16 | ompaul | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=firmware-nonfree sorted :) |
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| 06:43.39 | ompaul | somiaj: yeah - this is for an install on a box of unknown nature later this morning |
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| 06:46.09 | ompaul | that is even better (actually what I want) http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-linux-nonfree/download |
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| 07:04.09 | FreeMem | Does the FreeBSD Kernel Option randomize the packet sequence like NetBSD? |
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| 07:09.23 | cer_abg | hi there! |
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| 07:09.52 | cer_abg | someone has strong knowledge of GNUtls? :D |
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| 07:10.29 | deeLer | shoot |
| 07:10.30 | cer_abg | actually: someone has strong knowledge of GNUtls being used with ldap client? :D |
| 07:10.46 | cer_abg | ok |
| 07:10.51 | wols | cer_abg: stop your stupid question and ask your real one |
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| 07:11.25 | Strav | He. I'm trying to debug a slow boot process. The system seems to spend most of it's time on the scripts init-bottom part (which I don't quite know what it's for). Then I get some fsck reports and the boot sequence continues smoothly up to gdm. I generated a bootchart but so far, couldn't get anything conclusive from it. I also tried to set the disk checks to 0 in my fstab to avoid the fsck but it didn't made any difference. Any |
| 07:11.25 | Strav | suggestions on how can I debug this? |
| 07:12.06 | FreeMem | serial port? |
| 07:12.14 | wols | Strav: what is a "init-bottom"? |
| 07:12.54 | cer_abg | I want to use a certificate chain in my ldap client to accept more than 1 server certificate. In Debian, ldap client is linked agains GNUtls, and GNUtls doesn't support (afaik) certs chains of more than 1 root CA... so.. What can I do? |
| 07:12.58 | FreeMem | With a serial port and say minicom you ought to be able to watch your computer boot |
| 07:13.18 | Strav | wols: so far, to me, that's what the boot sequence spurs out when the system seems to waste it's time. |
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| 07:13.45 | cer_abg | The cert chain should be something like this: subCA_signedbyROOTCA1-> ROOTCA1 -> ROOTCA2 |
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| 07:14.02 | Strav | FreeMem: it's a local system with screen and all that, I can see the system boot. :) |
| 07:14.14 | cer_abg | or maybe ROOTCA2 -> subCA_signedbyROOTCA1 -> ROOTCA1 |
| 07:14.25 | wols | then look at it and check where it wastes time? it shows every init script it runs |
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| 07:14.33 | cer_abg | both ways, GNUTLS fails to verify the chain |
| 07:14.55 | wols | !tell Strav about bootlog |
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| 07:16.05 | Strav | wols: I've stumbled on bootlog while searching about bootchart. I'll give it a try thanks. |
| 07:16.46 | Strav | hopefully I'll get to see what this "scripts init-bottom" is about. |
| 07:17.09 | Strav | brb |
| 07:17.12 | FreeMem | maybe search for init-bottom and find the file and read the file to find what it's running |
| 07:17.40 | Strav | FreeMem: assuming it's a file, it's not a bad idea. |
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| 07:20.03 | FreeMem | Straw - on my little box here, I see /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-bottom it's just a directory for me |
| 07:20.23 | FreeMem | I'd assume you drop your scripts in that directory |
| 07:21.00 | Strav | yea, but it seems one of those script loads /dev |
| 07:21.59 | Strav | udev, sorry |
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| 07:22.13 | Strav | I'll check my udev rules if there's anything messed up |
| 07:23.11 | FreeMem | Strav - I have a cobalt box running debian, and I don't see anything in that directory either. So I looked at two now, a desktop with GUI and a cobalt raq with no gui |
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| 07:25.13 | Strav | FreeMem: before anyone finds out, I must confess I'm on ubuntu. But as everyone on #ubuntu is trying to spin their compiz cube, I figured I might as well come to the "source". |
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| 07:27.15 | Strav | anyways, one of those script here is messing with plymouth and bootcharts tells me plymout does hit my cpu ressources at one point. |
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| 07:31.02 | FreeMem | plymouth is a theme?! |
| 07:31.09 | FreeMem | heh... |
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| 07:33.56 | FreeMem | Hey Strav http://wiki.debian.org/plymouth |
| 07:34.02 | ronny | ho |
| 07:34.11 | FreeMem | I'd uninstall it. ;o) |
| 07:34.28 | ronny | ok, i got a weird issue on my weezy - gnome-terminal gives me "*** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap' |
| 07:34.41 | ronny | however terminator, which also uses vtw just works |
| 07:34.45 | ronny | *vte |
| 07:34.52 | ronny | anyone got an idea how to debug that |
| 07:35.03 | ronny | btw, i dont have the file /etc/termcap |
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| 07:37.56 | FreeMem | ronny sounds like a warning. Warning you the file can't be read from that file. |
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| 07:38.19 | nyuszika7h | Hi, do you see this, Gryllida? |
| 07:38.22 | ronny | FreeMem: it also makes gnome-terminal unusable, it doesnt accept the <return> key any more |
| 07:38.25 | Gryllida | yes nyuszika7h |
| 07:38.30 | nyuszika7h | Ok |
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| 07:41.26 | ronny | hmm |
| 07:41.36 | ronny | seems the package termcap-compat is no more :( |
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| 07:43.00 | FreeMem | Find one in rpmfind and extract the file? |
| 07:43.05 | FreeMem | Heh. |
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| 07:43.16 | FreeMem | bad advice. fine the proper package |
| 07:43.27 | Trewas | ronny: I guess you googled the error message and found the debian bug about that already? |
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| 07:46.24 | FreeMem | ronny - like trewas said... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/140011 seems a symlink helps some |
| 07:46.55 | Trewas | and there is more recent http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611826 |
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| 08:32.49 | HauM1 | is HP still maintaining HP-Tools (e.g. hp-health_8.5.0.1.2-2_amd64.deb, hp-snmp-agents_8.5.0.1.1-2_amd64.deb, hpacucli_8.50-6.0.2-2_i386.deb) for debian? |
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| 08:33.35 | stockholm | Skaperen: ödmjukt nick där |
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| 08:35.24 | sauvin | stockholm, man spricht Englisch hier. |
| 08:35.38 | stockholm | sauvin: ich weiss |
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| 08:38.48 | HauM1 | because HP-Tools for rpm-systems are newer (e.g. hp-snmp-agents-8.7.0.23-17.rhel6.x86_64.rpm, hpacucli-8.70-8.0.noarch.rpm) |
| 08:39.17 | HauM1 | hp-health-8.7.0.22-17.rhel6.x86_64.rpm |
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| 08:39.48 | HauM1 | noone using hp-server? |
| 08:40.32 | deeLer | Dell here |
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| 08:42.59 | deeLer | what is the difference between 'apt-get clean' and 'apt-get autoclean' ? |
| 08:43.51 | themill | deeLer: I presume you have already consulted "man apt-get" |
| 08:44.37 | deeLer | no man, I presume I'll get a much more to the point explenation here |
| 08:44.45 | deeLer | :) |
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| 08:47.27 | fgarp | I have some problem here: I have a hard disk connected and the BIOS detects it, however it's not making a block device |
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| 08:49.28 | deeLer | do you see it in dmesg ? |
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| 08:50.02 | cusco | hi... |
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| 08:52.57 | fgarp | anyone? |
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| 08:53.24 | FreeMem | fgarp deeLer asked you to look if you see it in dmesg |
| 08:53.35 | fgarp | I didn't see that |
| 08:53.43 | FreeMem | yeah ya got disconnected there |
| 08:53.44 | fgarp | prolly the buffer cleared |
| 08:54.07 | fgarp | anything special should i look for? |
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| 08:54.24 | cusco | if I was to ask for a feacture on a package instalation, a specific action such as set timezone configurations like the system wide timezone configurations on php.ini after installing php |
| 08:54.30 | cusco | what would be the proper way to request it? |
| 08:54.47 | cusco | fgarp: is it sata? |
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| 08:55.02 | fgarp | no, I have a sata disk and 2 ides |
| 08:55.11 | fgarp | one of the ides is detected |
| 08:55.12 | cusco | its a ide |
| 08:55.23 | fgarp | this one no |
| 08:55.25 | cusco | dmesg|grep hd |
| 08:55.26 | deeLer | fgarp: dmesg | fgrep -e sdb for example |
| 08:55.27 | cusco | maybe |
| 08:55.57 | deeLer | fgarp: or grep on the model / serial numer perhaps ... |
| 08:56.09 | deeLer | fgarp also check fdisk -l |
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| 08:56.58 | FreeMem | I wonder if the cable is good? Bent pins etc? |
| 08:57.01 | fgarp | nothing so far on dmesg |
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| 08:57.52 | fgarp | nothing on fdisk -l either |
| 08:58.00 | fgarp | the 2 other disks are detected |
| 09:00.39 | FreeMem | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.01 | FreeMem | df -ha sometimes helps me analyze disks |
| 09:01.15 | FreeMem | try a new cable too |
| 09:01.25 | FreeMem | check jumpers |
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| 09:01.35 | fgarp | the jumpers are allright |
| 09:01.48 | fgarp | the bios detects the disk |
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| 09:02.05 | fgarp | and there is no reference, not even an error in dmesg about this disk |
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| 09:02.50 | Digdilem | is it the same type as the working disks? (sata/pata), and did you replace the cable yet? (even though bios picks it, it could fail in work) |
| 09:03.02 | deeLer | how large is the disk ? |
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| 09:03.42 | FreeMem | fgarp, well I would do some more testing. I've had a box that had horrible intermittent problems when I mixed a pair of 500G IDE drives with a 120G sata. As soon as I went all sata the problems stopped |
| 09:03.43 | fgarp | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:03.47 | twofish | why the hell does ssh ask to unlock keys /after/ starting a session with a server? |
| 09:04.11 | fgarp | so I don't really think it's the cable |
| 09:04.26 | fgarp | but I'll try change it for the sake of it |
| 09:04.49 | fgarp | deeLer: 40GB |
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| 09:04.58 | FreeMem | fgarp do you have a sata / ide to usb test kit hardware? That would be a good way to make sure the drive is even working |
| 09:05.16 | nevyn | twofish: cause that key is for authenticating you not for securing the session |
| 09:05.22 | FreeMem | fgarp, Just because BIOS says its all good don't mean it is all good |
| 09:05.43 | twofish | oh right |
| 09:05.44 | twofish | duh |
| 09:05.45 | twofish | v2 |
| 09:05.46 | fgarp | FreeMem, no I don't have such kind of thing, and I know the disk works because I changed it from computer nothing else |
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| 09:06.11 | twofish | I remember in v1 when auth was implicit in session establishment |
| 09:06.40 | nevyn | yeah there's a reason that 2 only is the reccomended configuration |
| 09:06.52 | nevyn | conflating session establishment with authentication is a badmove |
| 09:07.15 | twofish | it's just annoying sometimes because I'll start a script on a machine which has a passworded key |
| 09:07.21 | twofish | and I'll forget about it |
| 09:07.35 | nevyn | that's what agents are for |
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| 09:07.46 | fgarp | ok. i'll get into changing the cable, be back with you soon |
| 09:07.52 | twofish | yea I should do that |
| 09:07.56 | twofish | but I'm perpetually lazy |
| 09:08.09 | nevyn | loves his ssh agent |
| 09:08.15 | Serjs | everyon have good link or tips about soft raid? |
| 09:09.42 | nevyn | Serjs: make the devices just a little smaller than the absolute size of your disks |
| 09:10.01 | nevyn | so when you buy more disks that are ever so slightly smaller you can still add them to the raid |
| 09:10.47 | twofish | that's good advice nevyn, i'd not thought of that |
| 09:10.57 | twofish | but I'm running 3 raids under LVM |
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| 09:11.01 | Serjs | what about paritions? /boot endure beyond the raid? |
| 09:11.02 | linuxfreaker | Hi |
| 09:11.11 | twofish | and when i need to expand I just add another entire raid |
| 09:11.17 | linuxfreaker | Where can I download Update Debian 6.0.2 recently announced? |
| 09:11.17 | Serjs | I planned to organize 1 lvl raid, cos i have 2 disks only |
| 09:11.19 | twofish | and expand the lv |
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| 09:13.16 | fgarp | I'm back, not only i changed the cable, but also swapped master/slave |
| 09:13.21 | streuner_ | linuxfreaker: /msg dpkg netinstall |
| 09:13.28 | Serjs | thx nevyn for basic advices I will take note of this |
| 09:13.29 | fgarp | and it appeared! |
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| 09:13.40 | linuxfreaker | streuner: Dont we have ISo images |
| 09:13.41 | fgarp | so the disk wasn't fried after all |
| 09:13.47 | streuner_ | linuxfreaker: if its already installed, just /msg dpkg security |
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| 09:14.02 | twofish | Serjs also look into LVM, it works well with raid |
| 09:14.10 | linuxfreaker | Is it only available through updates..dont we have ISO CD DVD |
| 09:14.16 | streuner_ | linuxfreaker: sure, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-i386-netinst.iso |
| 09:14.27 | fgarp | anyway thanks for your help, freemem and deeler |
| 09:14.34 | linuxfreaker | Any other way than netinst |
| 09:14.38 | afuentes | is it possible to shrink a lv in lvm to size to adjust to the new size of a partition? |
| 09:14.55 | deeLer | you're welcome |
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| 09:16.11 | FreeMem | fgarp if you get a lot of work with drives, you should get or make one of those IDE/SATA to USB adapters. |
| 09:16.17 | FreeMem | cruft |
| 09:16.17 | adac | I'm on lenny still but i would ned a new git version urgently. id there any external package source i can add to apt? |
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| 09:27.40 | nevyn | twofish: I do that too... |
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| 09:29.01 | adac | You should be able to use any of the listed mirrors by adding a line to your /etc/apt/sources.list like this: |
| 09:29.01 | adac | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main |
| 09:29.01 | adac | Replacing backports.debian.org/debian-backports with the mirror in question. |
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| 09:29.29 | adac | can anyone explin to me what does "mirror in questiion" means? |
| 09:30.29 | larrikin | adac: replace the reference url given with the url of your local mirror |
| 09:31.16 | adac | larrikin, but when i want to use original mirror, exactly the one above that would work as well, right? |
| 09:31.30 | adac | I'm trying to upgrade git-core on lenny toversion 1.7* |
| 09:31.43 | adac | and i found this: http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/git-core |
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| 09:31.59 | larrikin | adac: yes, but you must know what would happen if everybody decided to do this |
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| 09:32.40 | adac | larrikin, I know its not a good idea, but it is a urgent case |
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| 09:36.15 | adac | larrikin, but even when i add backports, git-core is not shown as upgradable |
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| 09:37.21 | larrikin | adac: how do you know that you don't have the latest version installed already? |
| 09:37.33 | MoL0ToV | hi to all, i have a problem with raid, one disk is damaged so i removed it, but the system don't boot. grub menu is not shower, the system load something from hard disk for just 1ms then reboots |
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| 09:37.49 | adac | larrikin, git --version |
| 09:37.49 | adac | git version 1.5.6.5 |
| 09:37.50 | MoL0ToV | is software raid |
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| 09:48.24 | linuxfreaker | Debian now talks 6.0.2 which also means this Debian 6.0.2.1. |
| 09:48.29 | linuxfreaker | Is it correct? |
| 09:48.39 | linuxfreaker | Looks It is more stable than original Debian 6.0.2, so you only can find 6.0.2.1 from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian6.0.2/Release |
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| 09:49.47 | linuxfreaker | Please check change log at http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/ChangeLog ========================================== Sun, 26 Jun 2011 - Debian 6.0.2.1 released ========================================== * No package changes. Reroll due to broken Packages files on both kfreebsd architectures ========================================= Sat, 25 Jun 2011 - Debian 6.0.2 released ========================================= |
| 09:49.55 | linuxfreaker | Whats this ? |
| 09:50.03 | linuxfreaker | Why no package chnaged? |
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| 10:02.56 | aminpy | how can I open an .mpg file in command? |
| 10:03.50 | acemi | mplayer |
| 10:04.18 | ujjain | nohup du -h --max-depth=2 /var/lib/backuppc/pc/ > /root/disk_usage_pool & < what is wrong with this command? it errors about std's |
| 10:04.28 | aminpy | acemi, mplayer command not found |
| 10:04.56 | FreeMem | install mplayer |
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| 10:07.37 | S1m | is there anyone that is using rhythmbox , if so are you able to play ogg,mp3 files ! |
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| 10:09.06 | nikin | morning :) i have installed xen4 dom0 last night, and am now trying to change the console resolution. I have put GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN_DEFAULT="vga=775" . The same number worked for the dafult kernel just fine. But xen ignores it. |
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| 10:09.19 | aminpy | and how can i open image files with command? |
| 10:09.30 | S1m | babilen: hello , how you doin there buddy :) |
| 10:10.57 | nikin | aminpy: display some_image.ext ... needs the imagemagick package installed |
| 10:12.35 | coolcat | hi, how can I see if Qt is installed on my pc? |
| 10:12.59 | wols | dpkg -l |grep qt |grep ^ii for example |
| 10:12.59 | dpkg | No packages found matching |grep qt |grep ^ii for example |
| 10:13.05 | nikin | coolcat: qt is a big thing what part do you need? |
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| 10:25.51 | SandmanNet | Can't I specify password as an argument to useradd? |
| 10:26.00 | SandmanNet | I'm automating something |
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| 10:27.17 | vtts | SandmanNet, you can specify a password hash |
| 10:27.32 | nikin | SandmanNet: http://linux.die.net/man/8/useradd |
| 10:27.36 | SandmanNet | oh, that would do. (how do I generate a password hash?) |
| 10:27.39 | SandmanNet | Thanks, I'll look |
| 10:27.46 | nikin | -p is for password |
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| 10:27.58 | SandmanNet | Riight |
| 10:28.00 | SandmanNet | Thanks! |
| 10:28.26 | vtts | -p is also hash |
| 10:28.40 | SandmanNet | The encrypted password, as returned by crypt(3 |
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| 10:29.05 | SandmanNet | Only, how do I generate a hash? |
| 10:29.06 | SandmanNet | hmmm |
| 10:29.08 | SandmanNet | digging... |
| 10:29.08 | Miesco | Do we have code::blocks in the repository for squeeze? |
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| 10:29.30 | SandmanNet | Ah, PHP seems to have a crypt() |
| 10:30.28 | Miesco | ,versions codeblocks |
| 10:30.29 | judd | Package codeblocks on i386 -- sid: 10.05-2; wheezy: 10.05-2 |
| 10:30.34 | Miesco | I see |
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| 10:32.47 | vtts | SandmanNet, try: mkpasswd -H md5 <your_unencrypted_password> |
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| 10:36.57 | Zopieux | hi |
| 10:37.52 | Zopieux | i'm under debian squeeze and I want to install both python2.6, 2.7 and 3k |
| 10:38.35 | SandmanNet | vtts: That did the trick as well, thanks :) |
| 10:38.38 | Zopieux | do you know a "howto" that explains how to do that cleanly? or can you explain me? |
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| 10:39.16 | boudiccas | Zopieux; no-one can explain you, you're beyond explanation! :) |
| 10:39.35 | Zopieux | sorry for my English. |
| 10:39.50 | Zopieux | explain it to me* |
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| 10:40.00 | Diverdude | hmmm so pay software such as oracle and websphere does not run on debian? |
| 10:40.17 | boudiccas | Zopieux; ah, that makes more sense now |
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| 10:45.10 | Iridos | Zopieux, "aptitude install python2.6 python2.7 python3"? |
| 10:45.40 | Iridos | hm, what's "3k"? |
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| 10:48.08 | wols | Iridos: another name for python 3 |
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| 10:48.29 | discozohan | Hello! How can i increase open files limit, set to 1024 by default ? I added line "* hard nofile 4096" to /etc/security/limits.conf, logged out, logged in, and hard limit it still 1024. What do i wrong ? |
| 10:48.55 | nikin | Diverdude: why whould that be impossible? |
| 10:49.16 | nikin | Diverdude: http://edin.no-ip.com/blog/hswong3i/oracle-database-11g-release-1-debian-sid-howto |
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| 10:50.05 | WoShiNiBaBa | Öîλ´óϺº¿£¡Ð¡µÜÔÚÕâÀï¸øÄãÃǾ´ÀñÁË...... |
| 10:50.06 | MoL0ToV | i have problem installing grub-legacy on a ext4 fs: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. suggestions? |
| 10:50.27 | WoShiNiBaBa | #123456 |
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| 10:52.15 | genieliu | WoShiNiBaBa: ... |
| 10:52.49 | nikin | WoShiNiBaBa: your keyboard is set up sucessfully [ OK ] |
| 10:52.50 | Iridos | discozohan, that seems ok |
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| 10:53.26 | SandmanNet | "mkpasswd -H md5 foo" and PHP "print crypt('foo');" gives different results |
| 10:54.07 | discozohan | Iridos: yup, i know. I can't get why there is no affect |
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| 10:55.25 | nikin | discozohan: limits.conf is for users AFAIK. the global thing is in sysctl : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-increase-the-maximum-number-of-open-files/ |
| 10:57.08 | discozohan | nikin: the global setting is set to over 1 million. ulimit -Ha shows 1024 for number of files. |
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| 10:58.37 | nikin | discozohan: see.. mybad |
| 10:58.47 | WoShiNiBaBa | To die |
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| 10:59.28 | jargon- | anybody know of a debian pkg corresponding to Bundle:DBI? i can find Apache::DBI (libapache-dbi-perl) but not Bundle:DBI |
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| 10:59.44 | babilen | WoShiNiBaBa: Do you have a Debian related question? If not you might want to switch to a social channel such as #defocus. |
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| 11:02.04 | jargon- | aah,wait. it looks like Bundle:DBI is libdbi-perl |
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| 11:06.27 | Iridos | discozohan, did the limit persist over a reboot? |
| 11:06.50 | discozohan | Iridos: i just want to check it out :) |
| 11:07.44 | WoShiNiBaBa | Where are you |
| 11:08.04 | Iridos | discozohan, I see the same... I never actually increased limits before and only decrease limits very rarely... lemme try with a different limit |
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| 11:09.37 | calculon | guys, I can not build live cd. On iso-image just memtest. |
| 11:10.01 | WoShiNiBaBa | Good movie-songs-good novel good TV series-fun games-good net |
| 11:10.04 | Iridos | discozohan, it must be set somewhere else as nikin suggested... if I change nproc and ssh into localhost, that changes |
| 11:10.22 | MoL0ToV | someone uses lilo? |
| 11:10.36 | WoShiNiBaBa | Brazil 14 die amazed at your tender eye! Angelababy this is the current of the hottest 14 years old, a model Dabora Brazil today early in the morning to see her, I immediately feel infinite well... |
| 11:10.41 | Iridos | discozohan, also if I decrease the number of open files, that is recognized |
| 11:10.59 | jargon- | what's with this dude? |
| 11:11.08 | Iridos | he wants some ops |
| 11:11.14 | jargon- | looks like |
| 11:11.19 | babilen | !ops WoShiNiBaBa nonsense (earlier as well (youyouyou) same IP) |
| 11:11.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill: babilen complains about: WoShiNiBaBa nonsense (earlier as well (youyouyou) same IP) |
| 11:11.45 | calculon | somebody are using live-builder? |
| 11:13.43 | calculon | is in internet only teenagers? |
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| 11:14.16 | Iridos | discozohan, it's curious... one can increase it as root via ulimit, but increasing via limits.conf fails |
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| 11:18.53 | lukosanthropos | Can anyone help me setup IPtables on my server, I want to limit connections so that everything is blocked baring 1 ipaddress |
| 11:19.21 | Iridos | discozohan, duh... also add a line * soft nofile 2048 |
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| 11:21.46 | wols | why is everyone suddenly asking "anyone" questions? are they only asking rhetorical questions or don't they want help? |
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| 11:22.19 | c3l | how would I permit only certain users of using su? |
| 11:22.33 | sekon_ | I cant even compile simple C programs |
| 11:22.35 | sekon_ | http://pastebin.com/L27j9Xnn |
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| 11:23.18 | wols | c3l: why would you want to do that? only a user who has the password for the target account can switch to that account |
| 11:23.25 | fleischergesell | how long should it take to delete a 30G file on an ext3 partition (7200 SATA disk)? |
| 11:23.30 | wols | !tell sekon_ about build-essential |
| 11:23.34 | pierrep | c3l: only users with group wheel can use su |
| 11:23.43 | wols | pierrep: huh? |
| 11:24.08 | wols | pierrep: here, everyone can call su: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 29152 Feb 16 02:11 /bin/su |
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| 11:24.53 | pierrep | wols, yeah.. wheel on gentoo, I was guessing it is the same |
| 11:25.06 | c3l | wols: someone might try to brute force it. or are actions already taken to prevent this? |
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| 11:25.16 | wols | !tell pierrep about wheel |
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| 11:25.34 | sekon_ | wols: please look at my paste |
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| 11:25.44 | themill | dpkg: tell sekon_ about cross-post |
| 11:25.44 | sekon_ | I dont even include stdio.h |
| 11:25.57 | sekon_ | i am getting linker errors |
| 11:26.06 | wols | c3l: you will ntoice it when your /var/log is 1 terrabyte due to all the auth.log log messages each failed login creates... |
| 11:26.17 | wols | sekon_: I told you what to do |
| 11:26.17 | themill | sekon_: you're also ignoring everyone who tells you how to solve the problem |
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| 11:26.48 | c3l | so its not really a good idea to change permissions for /bin/su to 750 and :su, then just add trusted users to group su? |
| 11:27.06 | wols | !tell c3l about wheel |
| 11:27.12 | wols | you can do it. but what's the point? |
| 11:27.28 | sekon_ | wols: themill I am moving over to oftc |
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| 11:27.51 | wols | if your passord is so weak it gets cracke dbefore billions of tries have been done, you aren't secure anyways. and since even unsuccessful login creates about 100+ bytes anyways? |
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| 11:29.26 | wols | if you hve some attacker already on the machine as a user, it's usually easier for the attacker to priviledge escalate instead of brute force |
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| 11:30.04 | c3l | ah well yes, thats true. thanks. I also dont allow root login via ssh, and no password auth either. I guess I can relax |
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| 11:33.41 | MoL0ToV | there is a way to downgrade a raid1 disk to a simple disk? |
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| 11:36.47 | simonlnu | downgrade? you wanna pull it out of the array? fail it. |
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| 11:37.18 | simonlnu | mount it like a normal non-raided drive/partition |
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| 11:42.28 | c3l | how do I best block a host/ip being allowed to create connections to me? or preferably automatically do this after X failed login attempts via ssh |
| 11:42.32 | rvsjoen | I have a fresh setup of squeeze, and I have two monitors that support 1920x1200 resolution, however for some reason xrandr only comes up with 1600x1200, any idea on how I can troubleshoot this ? |
| 11:44.01 | phix | hi |
| 11:44.15 | wols | c3l: fail2ban |
| 11:44.17 | rvsjoen | this is an Intel GMA 4500 chip |
| 11:44.30 | wols | rvsjoen: check your Xorg.0.log |
| 11:44.56 | phix | sup? |
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| 11:45.41 | c3l | wols: thanks |
| 11:45.55 | MoL0ToV | simonlnu, don't work |
| 11:46.07 | phix | hmmmmm |
| 11:46.14 | wols | !tell MoL0ToV about doesn't work |
| 11:46.28 | phix | so how about that debian? |
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| 11:46.39 | wols | MoL0ToV: as soon as you mount it as /dev/sda1 etc again it's done |
| 11:47.12 | rvsjoen | my Xorg.0.log is at http://pastebin.com/Rn3YrnAZ I can't say anything jumps out at me |
| 11:47.24 | phix | what isnt working? |
| 11:47.47 | wols | rvsjoen: you are using VESA instead of INTEL. why? |
| 11:48.04 | discozohan | Iridos: no, reboot didn't help ;( limit it still 1024 |
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| 11:48.23 | rvsjoen | fairly good question |
| 11:48.28 | MoL0ToV | wols, linux don't let me to mount ar regular filesystem |
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| 11:48.36 | rvsjoen | the intel driver for X11 is installed |
| 11:48.47 | syren | hi |
| 11:48.48 | wols | rvsjoen: why are you runing 2.6.37? |
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| 11:49.06 | syren | anyone know what arguments are required for aptitude-run-state-bundle to restore the bundle? |
| 11:49.14 | rvsjoen | its a 1 hour old install of squeeze from netinst, I have dont nothing but to install X (yet) |
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| 11:49.45 | wols | rvsjoen:there is no squeeze that uses kernel 2.6.37 |
| 11:49.45 | rvsjoen | and it is running 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 11:50.14 | rvsjoen | at least thats what uname says |
| 11:50.14 | wols | oh. sorry. "Build operating system". not running OS |
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| 11:51.15 | rvsjoen | whats that pciid command, the display adapter is 8086:2e12 |
| 11:51.32 | streuner_ | lspci -n |
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| 11:51.43 | wols | update-pciids |
| 11:51.47 | rvsjoen | ,pciid 8086:2e12 |
| 11:51.48 | judd | [8086:2e12] is '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'i915' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2e12 |
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| 11:52.45 | rvsjoen | ok, so the "intel" driver for X11 should work |
| 11:52.59 | Iridos | discozohan, did you see what I wrote in between? |
| 11:53.04 | rvsjoen | question is why it doesnt load it |
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| 11:53.51 | rvsjoen | can I dump the current X configuration in any way ? cause I have no Xorg.conf file |
| 11:54.19 | wols | you can create your own. you only need the driver section |
| 11:54.25 | simonlnu | X -configure perhaps may help |
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| 11:54.40 | simonlnu | like wols said, only need driver section |
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| 11:55.21 | wols | at http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary look at A minimal /etc/X11/xorg.conf example is shown below: and in that example config replace fglrx with intel. done |
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| 11:55.28 | simonlnu | ata_generic too? |
| 11:55.29 | discozohan | Iridos: can you repeat, please? -.- |
| 11:55.56 | simonlnu | discozohan: if your client supports it, you can do /lastlog |
| 11:56.18 | Iridos | discozohan, http://pastebin.com/9ezFBX8L |
| 11:56.36 | Iridos | and especially: <Iridos> discozohan, duh... also add a line * soft nofile 2048 |
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| 11:57.42 | discozohan | Iridos: yes, i also added "soft" line, but anyway - hard limit hasn't changed |
| 11:58.35 | discozohan | Iridos: and i changed "nproc", and again, no result |
| 11:58.47 | Iridos | discozohan, the limit was recognized the moment I added hard + soft limit |
| 11:58.53 | Iridos | what version of debian is this? |
| 11:59.18 | discozohan | 6.0.2 |
| 11:59.30 | Iridos | discozohan, nproc I could decrease without problems... how do you do the "fresh login"? |
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| 12:00.15 | discozohan | Iridos: logged out from ssh, logged in back |
| 12:00.43 | Iridos | hm, I'm logged in locally and did an "ssh localhost"... that should be equivalent |
| 12:00.46 | rvsjoen | wols: awesome, thanks |
| 12:01.11 | FreeMem | lukosanthropos - make any head way on your iptables? |
| 12:01.46 | discozohan | Iridos: ok, thanks, anyway ;) i'll try to google more |
| 12:01.53 | Iridos | discozohan, there should be a line "session required pam_limits.so" in /etc/pam.d/login - but that is default in squeeze |
| 12:02.12 | lukosanthropos | Thanks FreeMem, yes and no, I solved the problem but not through iptables |
| 12:02.31 | Iridos | discozohan, does grep pam_limits.so /etc/security/limits.conf return that? |
| 12:03.04 | FreeMem | lukosanthropos: so do you still want a way via iptables? |
| 12:03.13 | discozohan | Iridos: you mean /etc/pam.d/login, not /etc/security/limits.conf, yes ? |
| 12:03.32 | discozohan | /etc/pam.d/login has this, "session required pam_limits.so" |
| 12:03.42 | lukosanthropos | FreeMem I'd like to know how I could have done it but it isn't necessary |
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| 12:04.12 | FreeMem | okay I won't cloud the channel with iptables noise then |
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| 12:04.33 | lukosanthropos | Thanks though I do appreciate the thought |
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| 12:06.38 | discozohan | Iridos: oh, may be "UsePam" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config somehow effects that :/ |
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| 12:06.57 | discozohan | Iriod: "UsePam no", i mean |
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| 12:12.29 | wide_awake | Good morning |
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| 12:12.48 | wide_awake | How can I tell which driver is in use for my raid card? |
| 12:12.59 | Iridos | discozohan, indeed |
| 12:12.59 | `Lynx | hello, how can i set the motd displayed whenever user login on the shell on debian? |
| 12:13.03 | joltcan | wide_awake: look at dmesg and lsmod? |
| 12:13.09 | `Lynx | i cant find any motd at /var/run nor /etc |
| 12:13.23 | wide_awake | joltcan, according to dmesg, it's a "STARDOM" raid controller o_O |
| 12:13.48 | joltcan | wide_awake: usually hardware vendors use a myriad of different chipsets |
| 12:13.59 | wide_awake | is it possible that "sata_sil" is the driver? |
| 12:14.05 | joltcan | so even if the card says vendor x, it will be vendor y's chipset |
| 12:14.21 | wide_awake | I strongly suspect that this card is a piece of junk |
| 12:14.34 | wide_awake | I just want to set up a monitor for the raid status :-/ |
| 12:15.03 | joltcan | sata sil sounds possible |
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| 12:15.25 | joltcan | `Lynx: you mean the "blabla linux hostname kernel" etc? |
| 12:15.48 | marsfligth | does exist a command to verify if files names (thousands), are encoded correctly, has the allowed length name and if they are not, it can repair them in batch? |
| 12:15.50 | joltcan | `Lynx: thats in /etc/motd, otherwise it's /etc/issue[.net] |
| 12:16.12 | `Lynx | joltcan: no, i mean the no warranty message bla bla gnu |
| 12:16.28 | Fudge | um trying to install openssh-server in 6.0.1 says installation candiate not available, how do i get the ssh server to work |
| 12:16.33 | `Lynx | like, whenever i login at my username at startup [theres no x installed] a message is displayed |
| 12:16.35 | simonlnu | (probably several commands, not one, if it exists) |
| 12:16.37 | `Lynx | i want to change it |
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| 12:18.13 | abrotman | wide_awake: lspci -k |
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| 12:19.48 | wide_awake | abrotman, one sec, just installing pciutils |
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| 12:21.00 | blink | hey guys, I have a VM that just went unresponsive, seemingly due to an irq issue. the two lines preceeding the call trace are: 'irq 18: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)' and 'Pid: 0, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1' |
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| 12:21.25 | wide_awake | nobody cared :( |
| 12:21.29 | wide_awake | poor vm |
| 12:21.33 | blink | i know :( |
| 12:21.57 | blink | the output on console said that e1000 belonged to irq 18 |
| 12:22.37 | simonlnu | poor vm, no one cared except the kernel. |
| 12:22.46 | wide_awake | abrotman, Mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) |
| 12:22.47 | wide_awake | thanks |
| 12:22.49 | blink | and then it disabled that irq, causing the machine to be unreachable on the network (but otherwise responsive). it's a web server, so really. I care. |
| 12:22.59 | wide_awake | all the google hits for that are "data corruption with ___" |
| 12:23.00 | wide_awake | :-/ |
| 12:23.22 | simonlnu | tried unloading/loading the driver? |
| 12:23.35 | abrotman | wide_awake: got the driver? |
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| 12:24.19 | wide_awake | abrotman, everything is working fine |
| 12:24.33 | wide_awake | I'm just trying to figure out how to query the status of the hw raid array |
| 12:25.14 | abrotman | it's okay |
| 12:25.20 | abrotman | you were asking before how to find the driver |
| 12:25.27 | wide_awake | ah, right. |
| 12:25.56 | wide_awake | ya, it's sata_sil |
| 12:26.11 | wols | wide_awake: this is a fakeraid? |
| 12:26.21 | wide_awake | wols, ? |
| 12:27.36 | rvsjoen | any good resources on setting up dual monitors ? am I on the right track with this ? http://pastebin.com/e6p0gyCh |
| 12:27.53 | wols | sil3114 is no raid controller |
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| 12:29.17 | wide_awake | hehe, what is it? |
| 12:29.28 | wols | as I said: not a raid controller |
| 12:29.36 | wols | a normal, 4 port sata controller |
| 12:30.58 | wide_awake | hm |
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| 12:32.27 | wide_awake | writes a shell script that just does 'echo OK' |
| 12:32.28 | wide_awake | :-/ |
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| 12:36.16 | wide_awake | wols, would the presence of dm_snapshot,dm_mirror mean fakeraid? |
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| 12:41.08 | atlas95 | Hi |
| 12:41.12 | atlas95 | I would like to start acpid daemon AFTER hal, this is the only way i have find for bind my function key. I'm running squeeze, i can't find the good way to modify this order. |
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| 12:44.25 | project2501a | hey guys. i just bought a lacie hard drive. it has an interesting feature, it can read a fingerprint reader.... but it will not let me mount the disk attached to it as r/w, unless i install their driver. i keep wondering, how can i bypass that? |
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| 12:56.52 | wols | project2501a: disable that "feature" |
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| 13:00.30 | rvsjoen | doesnt seem to matter what I do... the leftmost display always wants to be the primary |
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| 13:01.44 | nkuttler | rvsjoen: um, switch cables? |
| 13:01.52 | rvsjoen | yeah tried that too |
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| 13:02.15 | nkuttler | which card/driver? |
| 13:02.19 | rvsjoen | problem is, then I have to reconfigure LeftOf to RightOf to make the correct edge transition |
| 13:02.27 | rvsjoen | and then it jumps back to the left screen |
| 13:02.30 | nkuttler | i see |
| 13:02.31 | rvsjoen | intel gma 4500 |
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| 13:04.49 | rvsjoen | basically, I want my empty screen to be left of the primary |
| 13:05.41 | rvsjoen | http://pastebin.com/ZVSZhgLE thats my current xorg.conf |
| 13:06.02 | nkuttler | do you have two different monitors? |
| 13:06.06 | rvsjoen | no |
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| 13:06.17 | rvsjoen | same model |
| 13:06.22 | nkuttler | hm, that was the only time i had layout problems |
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| 13:06.40 | hborderiou | Hi |
| 13:06.59 | hborderiou | Do you know the name of the php5 package DOM/XML for Sqeeze please ? |
| 13:07.12 | hborderiou | I don't find it, even on google |
| 13:07.23 | hborderiou | and even in package.debian.org |
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| 13:07.56 | nkuttler | hborderiou: looks like php4 which is obsolete? |
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| 13:08.22 | nkuttler | hborderiou: http://php.net/manual/en/book.domxml.php |
| 13:08.27 | hborderiou | I found it for php4. |
| 13:08.45 | rvsjoen | are you sure php5 doesnt ship with it compiled-in ? |
| 13:09.05 | hborderiou | I don't know. You're right, I've got to check it |
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| 13:11.15 | lynks | i did an apt-get update/upgrade and my sound died :( apt-get is refusing to install ia32-libs because it 'is also in package fglrx-glx' this might not even be the problem, but its the only thing apt-get is erroring on. dmesg contains snd-usb-audio: probe of <address> failed with error -5. any ideas? |
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| 13:13.04 | Iridos | switch the speakers on! |
| 13:13.18 | Iridos | the thing about ia32-libs is strange |
| 13:13.39 | nkuttler | i vaguely remember seeing this on sid a few weeks ago.. |
| 13:13.43 | wols | lynks: are you running wheezy? |
| 13:14.11 | lynks | squeeze |
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| 13:15.04 | wols | lynks: and what packages did you upgrade since your sound failed? |
| 13:15.58 | Iridos | hmm, I wonder... could still be muted... lynks: wouldn't hurt to go through the list dpkg gives you with /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
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| 13:16.44 | Iridos | guess you can skip 1) in that, though :-P |
| 13:16.52 | tech13 | have a system here that is giving a core dump, something about general protection fault. Reinstalled Debian 6.0.2.1, still happening. memtest+ continues to pass after runnning for 14 hours, memtest fails within the first 5 minutes, and stops responding to keyboard. Anyone see something like that before? |
| 13:17.01 | Iridos | if an upgrade removes you from the audio group, someting would be so wrong |
| 13:17.13 | lynks | very few, the first thing i did was --reinstall alsa-base, as that has worked in the past. apt-get returned some output i havent seen before, a bunch of gpg: Key xxx...not changed, then update/upgrade, which only did apache and php. |
| 13:17.38 | lynks | i will do the checklist thanks |
| 13:17.50 | wols | lynks: I didn't ask how many... I asked what packages. the correct answer to this are package names and version numbers |
| 13:19.04 | Iridos | tech13, I'm grateful I haven't |
| 13:19.17 | wols | tech13: you are sure you get a GPF in Linux? really? |
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| 13:19.37 | lynks | is it ok if i paste a package list? |
| 13:19.39 | Iridos | hehe... I wondered that, too... |
| 13:19.46 | wols | !pastebin |
| 13:19.46 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 13:19.52 | lynks | mmmk |
| 13:19.58 | Iridos | lynks, use a pastebin... there's also the program pastebinit to help you do that |
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| 13:20.44 | tech13 | wols, yeah. heard they happened, but usually as a result of bad hardware. The system was 32-bit Debian 5, without issue. 64-bit Debian 6 hasn't gone so well. |
| 13:21.23 | wols | tech13: there are no GPFs in Linux... |
| 13:21.56 | wols | and now you talk about "heard". above you write that you yourself have a system which shows you this |
| 13:22.20 | tech13 | wols, this one isn't mine, but I'm not the only one that has seen a GPF in linux before. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/kernel/101891-general-protection-fault-0000-1-smp-syslogd.html |
| 13:22.22 | wols | tech13: maybe you should lean back and check exactly what your problem is before asking? |
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| 13:23.11 | lynks | http://pastebin.com/mtBhiaRW |
| 13:23.22 | lynks | this was the upgrade |
| 13:23.36 | wols | so your kernel panics? that certainly isn't a core dump. again. lean back and check exactly what the problem is and then tell us about this exact problem. don't use big words needlessly |
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| 13:24.48 | tech13 | wols, so 'core dump' is more informative then the first line of the 'core dump' for you? |
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| 13:26.26 | wols | tech13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_panic vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_dump |
| 13:26.28 | lynks | i was told GPFs triggered a segfault/other more specific fault in unix |
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| 13:27.35 | tech13 | wols, you were the one to call it a 'core dump' first. sorry for using your "big words" that you applied incorrectly. |
| 13:27.43 | wols | < tech13> have a system here that is giving a core dump, |
| 13:27.50 | Iridos | tech13, actually you used the term in your original question |
| 13:27.59 | Iridos | and we're just trying to find out what really happened... |
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| 13:28.17 | wols | tech13: and to do that you need to give proper information and not just tidbits |
| 13:28.22 | Iridos | a core dump would mean that one process gets killed by the system and a core dump of its memory is written to disk |
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| 13:28.28 | tech13 | Iridos, err... oops, I did. |
| 13:28.39 | Iridos | and I think that's not what happened and that's why wols is a bit pissed |
| 13:28.40 | wols | and anytime _any_ memtest program errors it's basically bad memory. even when other memtest programs don't error |
| 13:29.13 | wols | a passed memtest run is never a conclusive proof of error free memory unfortunately |
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| 13:29.54 | Iridos | still I find it amazing that it would run for bloody 14 hours and then say "passed" on bad memory |
| 13:30.08 | Iridos | seems to make the whole exercise pretty useless |
| 13:30.33 | wols | lynks: I don't see a kernel upgrade in the log but I do see a header upgrade which is a but strange. your dmesg entry very much suggests a kernel problem but how can that happen when the kernel hasn't changed |
| 13:30.53 | wols | Iridos: you can't prove a negative... |
| 13:31.23 | Iridos | wols "my parents are NOT in this room... I looked!" |
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| 13:31.26 | Iridos | :-P |
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| 13:31.55 | stew | if you have an intermittent problem that occurs every 48 hours, that's a pretty bad problem... |
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| 13:32.48 | Iridos | oh well, he left fairysnuff |
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| 13:33.12 | lynks | i did a kernel update from 2.6.26-2-amd64 to 2.6.32-5-amd64 a week or so ago, but the sound has worked fine until today. admittedly i didnt test it before i did the apt-get upgrade, but given the ia32-libs error, i immediately thought that was the problem |
| 13:33.39 | Iridos | lynks, did going through the checklist reveal anything interesting? |
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| 13:36.08 | lynks | iridos, only that i dont have a Noise.wav |
| 13:36.10 | Iridos | he also upgraded firmware-free... but that seems to contain stuff for network cards |
| 13:36.23 | Iridos | lynks, hehe... take any other wav then |
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| 13:37.31 | lynks | procinfo in alsamixergui does not contain a usb-esque option |
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| 13:37.43 | lynks | hunts of a wav |
| 13:37.50 | Iridos | so... everything unmuted, no pesky sound-daemon that could mess up stuff, ... |
| 13:37.57 | Iridos | locate / dlocate |
| 13:38.46 | lynks | praetorian:/home/lynks# aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav |
| 13:38.46 | lynks | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 13:39.01 | Iridos | lynks, also... if snd-usb-audio returns that message... is the module still loaded afterwards or not? |
| 13:39.38 | lynks | modprobe...something? |
| 13:40.05 | Iridos | I guess "lsmod |grep snd-usb-audio" |
| 13:40.12 | lynks | ahh ok |
| 13:40.15 | Iridos | actually this isn't your real driver, I'd say |
| 13:40.24 | Iridos | there must be another module for the actual card |
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| 13:41.18 | lynks | there is a reference to snd_usb_audio (underscores) next to 'usbcore' |
| 13:41.23 | Iridos | what sound card is it anyway... if it's usb, lsusb should say |
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| 13:42.08 | lynks | it is, and lsusb does contain it, complete with manufacturer and product name |
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| 13:42.49 | Iridos | and an id that goes something like 1234:5678 ... so what card is it |
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| 13:43.36 | Iridos | from that you can find the kernel module needed... you could unload that with rmmod and load it again to see if you get additional messages in dmesg |
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| 13:44.04 | Iridos | oh noes... I ran an upgrade on squeeze and it's installing a new kernel... again |
| 13:44.11 | wols | lynks: do you have two alsa cards in tehre? one hdmi from the ati, the other your real card? maybe it's trying to use the wrong one? |
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| 13:46.34 | lynks | wols: yes you're right, proc contains an ATI HDMI, and a VIA (which i believe is the on-board), but only those two |
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| 13:47.54 | wols | lynks: and which one is the default? |
| 13:48.19 | lynks | is that something i check in alsa? |
| 13:48.49 | kkulhavy | lynks, I am getting an idea now, to run Skype, which shows you a list of available sound devices, and try one after another, if you can get the bubbling test sound with one of them |
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| 13:49.17 | lynks | HDMI is the default |
| 13:49.50 | lynks | fires up skype |
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| 13:50.06 | kkulhavy | lynks, I also saw a problem on my own PC where turning on/off the HDMI clock in BIOS affected whether sound card worked or not |
| 13:50.26 | dokma | hey guyz! I've got a raw email on my hand, is there any viewer for that kind of stuff? |
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| 13:51.01 | kkulhavy | dokma, you have a raw email and want to view it the way email is normally shown? |
| 13:51.02 | Digdilem | vi ? |
| 13:51.09 | dokma | kkulhavy: exactly |
| 13:51.21 | lynks | kkul: unfortunately skype only lists the cards shown in proc, ie no sign of a usb |
| 13:51.25 | dokma | Digdilem: talking to me? |
| 13:51.32 | kkulhavy | dokma, not 100% sure, but I would try to put it into a file and then run the "mutt" program on the file as if it were a mailbox |
| 13:51.44 | kkulhavy | dokma, maybe mutt <filename> but again not 100% sure |
| 13:51.48 | dokma | kkulhavy: ahhh.... didn't know that was possible |
| 13:51.50 | dokma | let me try |
| 13:52.02 | stew | dokma: is there something other than text that you want to extract from the email? |
| 13:52.08 | IRsee | Howdy Debian. |
| 13:52.14 | kkulhavy | lynks, so you have an USB sound card and want to make it work? |
| 13:52.20 | lynks | correct |
| 13:52.46 | Digdilem | dokma, yes, but perhaps it's not the answer you wanted |
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| 13:53.13 | Digdilem | doesn't work so well with html emails or attachments, but for plaintext, vi is fine |
| 13:53.25 | dokma | Digdilem: yes, it's not. I'm looking to see that raw email the way a normal email viewer would display it because of the transformations of the text |
| 13:53.36 | dokma | so I can copy paste |
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| 13:53.46 | Iridos | lynks, well... if the wrong one is used by default there you are, or not? |
| 13:54.43 | kkulhavy | lynks, and in dmesg do you see the USB soundcard being recognized? |
| 13:54.50 | lynks | iridos, according to alsamixer, the hdmi is default, but the only other option is the onboard. |
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| 13:55.18 | Iridos | hm, well, that still leaves the question open if you have the needed kernel module loaded |
| 13:56.14 | lynks | kkulhavy, dmesg contains a block in which the usb soundcard is recognized perfectly, but then a little further down contains the error: snd-usb-audo: probe of xxxx failed with error -5 |
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| 13:56.38 | lynks | iridos, sure, so i have the device hexcode from lsusb |
| 13:56.56 | Iridos | well, what's it and the card name then |
| 13:57.08 | lynks | Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:0a0c Logitech, Inc. Clear Chat Comfort USB Headset |
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| 13:57.32 | Iridos | judd, pciid 046d:0a0c |
| 13:57.32 | judd | [046d:0a0c] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=046d:0a0c |
| 13:57.33 | kkulhavy | lynks, aha, looks to me like the kernel and the soundcard don't work together |
| 13:57.43 | kkulhavy | lynks, and therefore the soundcard is not available in your system |
| 13:58.14 | lynks | it has always worked in squeeze |
| 13:58.31 | kkulhavy | lynks, and now you have sid? |
| 13:58.48 | lynks | no still squeeze |
| 13:59.04 | kkulhavy | lynks, so it stopped working by itself? |
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| 13:59.53 | Iridos | lynks, hm, close, I have ID 046d:0a02 Logitech, Inc. Premium Stereo USB Headset 350 |
| 14:00.00 | Iridos | pity, would have been handy if it was the same |
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| 14:00.12 | lynks | maybe i should upgrade :P |
| 14:00.19 | wols | Iridos: a usb headset is not a pci device |
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| 14:00.30 | wols | lynks: at most you'd want a backport kernel |
| 14:00.34 | Iridos | wols, I know... but I thought the ID system is share |
| 14:00.36 | Iridos | d |
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| 14:00.49 | dokma | where is the email of system users stored if exim is the mta? |
| 14:00.59 | dokma | by default |
| 14:01.04 | Merbo | Where is the location of gcc program normally put? |
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| 14:01.16 | stew | Merbo: /usr/bin/gcc-$version |
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| 14:03.59 | kkulhavy | Merbo, and gcc version is shown by gcc --version |
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| 14:04.38 | Iridos | lynks, when I plug mine in, dmesg says: http://pastebin.com/srvjLQUA |
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| 14:05.56 | lynks | i really need to get copy/paste from irc working |
| 14:06.15 | Iridos | heh |
| 14:06.50 | lynks | very similar output to mine, except a few lines later i have the and-usb-audio probe fail |
| 14:06.54 | lynks | snd* |
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| 14:07.16 | Iridos | hm |
| 14:07.40 | Iridos | try downgrading the kernel to the last patchlevel? |
| 14:07.58 | Merbo | how do I get the latest kernel headers? vmware tools is so annoying but i need it to get internet connecion in my vmware |
| 14:08.05 | lynks | i still have the previous kernel entry in grub, can i just run that? |
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| 14:08.23 | wols | lynks: yes. |
| 14:08.35 | lynks | will return shortly |
| 14:08.41 | wols | Merbo: like any other package- apt-cache search linux-header |
| 14:09.19 | Iridos | wols, can he? If it's an upgrade for a minor patchlevel version, it would just replace the package? |
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| 14:09.48 | wols | < lynks> i still have the previous kernel entry in grub, it is most probably 2.6.26 from lenny |
| 14:10.14 | Iridos | but that wouldn't work well at all... udev and all |
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| 14:13.01 | lynks | now running 2.6.26, still no sound (same errors in dmesg) and now fglrx is broken (everything is rendering slow) |
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| 14:13.04 | Iridos | lynks, what was that other entry "still there"? I just meant going to the last kernel before upgrade... and that should have been uninstalled with the upgrade |
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| 14:14.21 | lynks | iridos, im still a bit confused on the kernel update process, i have never run an apt-get dist-upgrade, upgrade alone seems to change the kernel version every now and again, and when it does, im left with both kernels, visible in grub |
| 14:14.22 | Iridos | with a little luck the image should have been one of the files in /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.32-5-* though |
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| 14:16.02 | Iridos | lynks, the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that dist-upgrade will also remove packages if necessary (and install additionals, I think) |
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| 14:16.26 | lynks | ok thanks |
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| 14:16.59 | Iridos | !tell lynks -about dist-upgrade |
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| 14:18.28 | lynks | i always assumed the dist was for distribution...as in debian i suppose. |
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| 14:18.59 | wols | lynks: it will only change kernel verison when a new debian comes out. e.g. lenny used 2.6.26, squeeze now uses 2.6.32. so one version change with two kernels every two years or so |
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| 14:19.24 | lynks | im going to uninstall fglrx, seeing as its broken now anyway, and seems to be stopping the upgrade of ia32-libs |
| 14:19.28 | lynks | wols, thanks |
| 14:19.42 | Iridos | lynks, you will always get minor kernel updates with e.g. security updates or so... changes from one kernel version to another only happen if you have a meta-package installed, e.g. linux-image-2.6 - that package always depends on the newest kernel version, so in squeeze it will continue to depend on 2.6.32, when you upgrade to wheezy it will depend on a newer version of the kernel and hence cause that to be installed (and then your old kernel keeps stic |
| 14:19.42 | Iridos | king around, because no mechanism forces that it is uninstalled and it is not upgraded itself) |
| 14:19.56 | Iridos | I don't know if I could make that clear :) |
| 14:20.50 | lynks | i understand thanks :P |
| 14:20.56 | Iridos | upgrade means a package is replaced by a newer version... you upgrade the meta-package linux-image-2.6 and that depends on something new, so that's pulled in |
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| 14:21.23 | Iridos | at that moment you do not upgrade linux-image-2.6.32-5-bigmem or whateever, so that just sticks around |
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| 14:21.37 | everamzah | if i chmod 644 /dev/input/mouse how can i make that change persistent across reboots? |
| 14:22.00 | Iridos | but as wols said, that only happens either in testing/unstable or when you switch from one stable distribution to another |
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| 14:23.04 | Iridos | everamzah, if its not, I would think the device is created in udev... look in /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 14:23.20 | Iridos | hm |
| 14:23.27 | everamzah | ty |
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| 14:24.01 | wols | everamzah: why would you want to do this? |
| 14:24.17 | everamzah | wols, quakeworld client ezQuake has evdev support |
| 14:24.22 | everamzah | but requires the file be readable |
| 14:24.42 | wols | everamzah: show us the current permissions of your mouse file. before you mangled them |
| 14:25.08 | everamzah | crw------- |
| 14:25.17 | everamzah | readable only by root |
| 14:25.41 | everamzah | crw------- 1 root root 13, 32 Jun 30 10:10 mouse0 |
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| 14:28.20 | michelem | hello folks |
| 14:28.57 | michelem | I'm writing a bounch of scripts to run after network up. I put them in /etc/network/if-up.d , but I see only some of them are run |
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| 14:29.17 | twobitsprite | michelem: are they all +x? |
| 14:29.21 | michelem | I suppose ifup stops running the sequence when one terminates with an error? |
| 14:29.25 | michelem | twobitsprite: yes |
| 14:29.33 | Iridos | lynk |
| 14:29.35 | twobitsprite | michelem: is one terminating with an error? |
| 14:29.41 | Iridos | gorn again |
| 14:29.48 | michelem | twobitsprite: that's what I want to know. How would I do that? |
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| 14:31.56 | michelem | and in general, is there any docs on writing those scripts? I needed to reverse engineer everything so far |
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| 14:32.11 | boudiccas | i had my widgets unlocked and lost my panel with the taskbar, system tray and windows panel. i've now got them back to their original positions but am unable to have any program details on the spacer in the panel. How do i get the program details back onto the panel please? this is with kde on squeeze |
| 14:33.01 | twobitsprite | michelem: you can "exit 1" at the end of one of the other scripts that get's run and see if it stops the later scripts from being executed |
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| 14:33.45 | twobitsprite | boudiccas: "program details"? |
| 14:34.04 | boudiccas | twobitsprite; sorry? |
| 14:34.24 | twobitsprite | boudiccas: what does that mean? I don't remember any "program details" in the panel in KDE |
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| 14:34.36 | everamzah | wols, ? |
| 14:35.18 | boudiccas | twobitsprite; ah right. there is normally a little bar in the panel which has in it xchat, or gkrellm, or libreoffice. do you understand now? |
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| 14:35.42 | twobitsprite | boudiccas: you mean the window list? |
| 14:35.51 | th0r | is there an up to date how to for doing a net install using a broadcom wifi card? |
| 14:35.52 | boudiccas | twobitsprite; yes |
| 14:36.27 | twobitsprite | boudiccas: there should be a window list widget you can add |
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| 14:37.10 | twobitsprite | th0r: the driver should be either in the installer or the driver CD |
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| 14:38.00 | th0r | twobitsprite: I have the net install cd, and it is asking for ucode15.fw, which I have been unable to locate. Is there another iso I need to download and burn? |
| 14:38.45 | twobitsprite | th0r: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ |
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| 14:39.06 | th0r | twobitsprite: thanks....heading there now |
| 14:39.09 | twobitsprite | th0r: scroll down and you should see a link in a yellow box for an installed cd with firmware |
| 14:40.06 | th0r | twobitsprite: can I burn that to a usb stick? I can't remove the netinstall cd to put that one in the drive |
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| 14:40.50 | th0r | twobitsprite: is that a replacement for the original netinst cd? It appears so but the wording isn't quite clear |
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| 14:41.37 | primary | I'm getting 404's on some files when I try to do a build-dep midori with Debian Squeeze |
| 14:41.40 | twobitsprite | th0r: well... there's 2 ways. You can download the firmware tarball and boot the normal cd then load the firmware... or you can boot the unofficial netinst cd which has the firmware included |
| 14:41.47 | boudiccas | twobitsprite; no, window list isnt it, what i'm thinking of is a small horizontal bar in the panel which allows you to put the names of programs that are running in that desktop there. EG gkrellm on every desktop will have an entry on every desktop panel, from which you can make it show on all desktops |
| 14:41.56 | th0r | twobitsprite: ok...thanks. |
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| 14:42.13 | twobitsprite | boudiccas: sorry, no idea |
| 14:42.52 | primary | libdbus-1-dev amd64 1.2.24-4 404 Not Found [IP: 35.9.37.225 80] |
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| 14:43.06 | primary | Maybe I should add FTP to my /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 14:43.21 | twobitsprite | primary: have you done an aptitude update recently? |
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| 14:45.47 | primary | twobitsprite: Apparently not recently enough |
| 14:45.53 | primary | Current status: 52 updates [+52], 28493 new [-2]. |
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| 14:46.32 | primary | Now it hums along fine. Thanks twobitsprite. |
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| 14:49.23 | twobitsprite | primary: you must be running testing... yeah, things can move pretty fast in testing, and they don't keep old packages around... update often |
| 14:49.44 | primary | I'm not running testing. |
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| 14:49.58 | twobitsprite | primary: that many updates in stable? |
| 14:50.44 | primary | sec |
| 14:51.23 | twobitsprite | actually, now that I'm looking at it, I have 37 updates on my stable box |
| 14:51.26 | primary | Would volatile explain it |
| 14:51.38 | ElDiabolo | There has been a larger number in stable recently. |
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| 14:52.45 | twobitsprite | ElDiabolo: strange... I wonder why the sudden flood of updates |
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| 14:53.28 | lynks | the headset is now working, but i am not sure what fixed it |
| 14:54.12 | karlpinc | twobitsprite: Because they put out a new point release 6.0.2. |
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| 14:54.24 | twobitsprite | karlpinc: ahh, I must have missed the memo |
| 14:54.28 | lynks | i messed around with apt-get a bit, attempted to blacklist my hdmi output in alsa, and went for a cigarette before rebooting. any of these things could be the reason it now works. no error in dmesg, everything is as you would expect. |
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| 14:55.04 | ElDiabolo | twobitsprite, Just looked it up, 6.0.2 released |
| 14:55.07 | twobitsprite | lynks: the cigarette probably... happens to me all the time, like my system is telling me to take a break :P |
| 14:55.21 | lynks | yeah i would tend to agree |
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| 14:57.01 | Iridos | lynks, I vote for the cigarette being the cause :) |
| 14:57.21 | Iridos | oh... so did twobitsprite already |
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| 15:01.30 | corecode | hi |
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| 15:03.47 | th0r | twobitsprite: I downloaded and burned the net install cd from that link, but it is still stuck asking for that ucode15.fw |
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| 15:09.16 | corecode | is it a known problem that some python packages omit 0-sized __init__.py files, therefore breaking python's concept of packages? |
| 15:09.19 | corecode | modules* |
| 15:09.45 | lynks | thanks for the help all |
| 15:09.58 | Justin | corecode: generally people at least put a # in empty __init__.py packages... |
| 15:10.05 | Justin | er, files |
| 15:10.10 | corecode | right |
| 15:10.14 | corecode | but some don't, it seems |
| 15:10.51 | twobitsprite | th0r: it might be easier if possible to install on a wired connection and installing the wireless afterwords |
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| 15:26.23 | engrxyz | hi anyone knows what release of debian is the bnx2 firmware supported by default? |
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| 15:27.43 | daemonkeeper | engrxyz: All do (well, recent) |
| 15:27.55 | boudiccas | i had my widgets unlocked and lost my panel with the taskbar, system tray and windows pager. i've now got them back but not to their original positions but am unable to have any program details on the spacer in the panel. How do i get the program details back onto the panel please? this is with kde on squeeze |
| 15:27.55 | engrxyz | i got this dell 1950 |
| 15:27.56 | daemonkeeper | Squeeze definitively does, but it needs firmware. |
| 15:28.01 | engrxyz | used debian lenny |
| 15:28.10 | engrxyz | but the bnx2 is not supported during install |
| 15:28.43 | xk | it is supported if firmware-*bnx2*.deb is supplied on a usb stick. |
| 15:28.47 | boudiccas | windows pager = desktop pager |
| 15:29.12 | daemonkeeper | The package is called firmware-bnx2. |
| 15:29.22 | daemonkeeper | Lenny did not had this, if I'm not mistaken |
| 15:29.38 | engrxyz | as i don't want to move to squeeze |
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| 15:29.45 | daemonkeeper | You better do |
| 15:29.55 | engrxyz | since a software that i want to use, ultramonkey, won't work with squeeze |
| 15:29.59 | xk | daemonkeeper: I remember doing this in 2008 :) |
| 15:30.10 | daemonkeeper | xk: So do I |
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| 15:30.31 | daemonkeeper | xk: I am just not sure what I did back then. |
| 15:30.52 | daemonkeeper | engrxyz: Well, Lenny's security support will end in half a year or so |
| 15:31.23 | engrxyz | nah nobody wants to hack my debian running internall |
| 15:31.33 | engrxyz | coz it's just for testing |
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| 15:32.04 | daemonkeeper | Well, do whatever you want. |
| 15:32.15 | daemonkeeper | You need firmware-bnx2 in any case. |
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| 15:32.31 | engrxyz | yeah but ultramonkey won't work with squeeze |
| 15:32.55 | daemonkeeper | Ultramonkey is just a pre-configured LVS+ldirectord or so, right? |
| 15:33.02 | engrxyz | specially ipvsadm |
| 15:33.08 | engrxyz | yeah sort of but |
| 15:33.09 | daemonkeeper | That's LVS |
| 15:33.16 | daemonkeeper | So what's the problem then? |
| 15:33.21 | engrxyz | there is a section on ipvsadm that won't appear on squeeze |
| 15:33.22 | daemonkeeper | Both are available in Squeeze |
| 15:33.35 | daemonkeeper | A section? |
| 15:34.25 | engrxyz | yeah |
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| 15:34.32 | stew | ultramonkey hasn't been updated since etch or something the last I looked |
| 15:34.37 | xk | what section? |
| 15:34.39 | riverboater | How do I get xterm to recognize the Meta_L key? |
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| 15:35.27 | engrxyz | LVSSyncDaemonSwap |
| 15:35.29 | riverboater | I've having to use ESC in bash to use the sequences like M-f... |
| 15:35.30 | engrxyz | that one |
| 15:35.36 | boudiccas | i had my widgets unlocked and lost my panel with the taskbar, system tray and windows pager. i've now got them back but not to their original positions but am unable to have any program details on the spacer in the panel. How do i get the program details back onto the panel please? this is with kde on squeeze |
| 15:35.37 | riverboater | I've been* |
| 15:35.50 | engrxyz | daemonkeeper: this one ,.... LVSSyncDaemonSwap |
| 15:36.05 | primary | turtles having sex: http://www.gnu.org/software/recutils/ |
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| 15:36.32 | daemonkeeper | engrxyz: http://archive.linuxvirtualserver.org/html/lvs-users/2007-04/msg00116.html |
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| 15:37.22 | engrxyz | daemonkeeper, : i know that but it won't install on squeeze |
| 15:37.35 | xk | lol @ LVSSyncDaemonSwap. sounds like a workaround for a problem on a 2.4.x kernel |
| 15:37.37 | engrxyz | yeah i know ultramonkey is not updated but it is a damned good piece of shit |
| 15:37.45 | daemonkeeper | Well, did you miss the part where it says "its obsolete since half a decade"? |
| 15:37.56 | engrxyz | i know that |
| 15:38.13 | engrxyz | but that one is needed to get ultramonkey usable |
| 15:38.22 | engrxyz | and it will only run on lenny |
| 15:38.29 | xk | heartbeat v1 is has close to zero cluster resource management ability. |
| 15:38.38 | daemonkeeper | As said, do whatever you want. |
| 15:38.47 | daemonkeeper | But your choice is a bad one :) |
| 15:39.01 | engrxyz | well it is the best one i got |
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| 15:39.18 | engrxyz | who can recommend to me to have an active-active sip server |
| 15:39.24 | stew | engrxyz: what does ultramonkey get you that just installing the current versions of all the component parts doesn't? |
| 15:39.27 | daemonkeeper | I doubt that. You can do much more sophisticated jobs with heartbeat and LVS |
| 15:39.41 | engrxyz | like i said |
| 15:39.42 | xk | daemonkeeper: or corosync and pacemaker :) |
| 15:39.50 | engrxyz | i need it for sip sip sip sip sips |
| 15:39.52 | daemonkeeper | xk: That's essentially the same these days |
| 15:39.55 | xk | yeah |
| 15:40.06 | engrxyz | i don't need pacemaker or timebomb or whatever |
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| 15:40.25 | engrxyz | coz it won't solve the result that i want to achieve |
| 15:40.47 | xk | please divulge what you want to achieve |
| 15:40.55 | engrxyz | and as i said, does anyone has a succeful result with active-active sip server |
| 15:41.00 | engrxyz | i just did |
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| 15:41.04 | engrxyz | active-active sip server |
| 15:41.12 | engrxyz | and it can only be done with ultramonkey |
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| 15:41.42 | daemonkeeper | Definitively not, since Ultramonkey is a script collection around the very same tools we are suggesting you, just not in ancient verions |
| 15:41.52 | daemonkeeper | *versions |
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| 15:42.07 | stew | engrxyz: you might want to verify your claims with the folks in #linux-ha ; i think they'll disagree that ultramonkey is the only way |
| 15:42.38 | engrxyz | stew: oh yeah verify a claim then will ask me blah blah blah u just need to hire a consultant |
| 15:42.58 | xk | ewhat you want to achieve doesn't make sense. |
| 15:43.05 | xk | do you want two load balancers running at the same time? |
| 15:43.06 | engrxyz | stew, : i already made ultramonkey to work with active-active sip server with live video call |
| 15:43.13 | xk | or do you want two sip workings being utilised? |
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| 15:43.20 | xk | er, servers |
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| 15:43.28 | engrxyz | problem is, the production machine i want to move in doesn't support this shit bnx2 fucking driver |
| 15:43.34 | xk | lol |
| 15:43.36 | stew | engrxyz: oh, so when you say "it can only be done with ultramonkey" you don't mean that at all, you just mean "i know how to do it with ultramonky, and I'm not willing to learn anything else", right? |
| 15:43.40 | engrxyz | xk, : of course |
| 15:43.43 | Iridos | riverboater, that's normal... you can remap at will, though using xmodmap |
| 15:43.44 | xk | learn to use a usb stick and copy firmware-bnx2*.deb to it |
| 15:43.56 | xk | engrxyz: of course to what? one or both? |
| 15:43.58 | engrxyz | xk, : it'll just boil down on what scheduling algo one will be using |
| 15:44.01 | engrxyz | but it works actuall |
| 15:44.05 | engrxyz | both |
| 15:44.13 | engrxyz | ls |
| 15:44.25 | riverboater | Iridos I know.. but bash still won't recognize M-f, for instance... I have to use ESC f |
| 15:44.38 | xk | what's the point of sync daemon |
| 15:44.41 | xk | if sip is stateless? |
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| 15:44.44 | xk | :) |
| 15:45.00 | xk | sync daemon only "works" if tcp is involved. |
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| 15:45.02 | rvsjoen | dpkg: compiz |
| 15:45.04 | engrxyz | xk, : to check the status of ldirectord |
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| 15:45.07 | __name__ | Good evening/ |
| 15:45.16 | boudiccas | i had my widgets unlocked and lost my panel with the taskbar, system tray and windows pager. i've now got them back but not to their original positions but am unable to have any program details on the spacer in the panel. How do i get the program details back onto the panel please? this is with kde on squeeze |
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| 15:45.32 | engrxyz | oh goodness, not sure if you did implemented sip servers at all |
| 15:45.32 | xk | engrxyz: i think you're getting confused |
| 15:45.34 | primary | one time i inhaled cotton candy |
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| 15:45.37 | __name__ | How do you tell apt to restore a package's configs to the initial state? |
| 15:45.50 | xk | heartbeat sync daemon swap != lvs daemon swap. |
| 15:45.50 | rvsjoen | meh... anyone have an idea how I can get compiz working in wheezy ? when I do compiz --replace, it whines about /bin/sh emerald not found, however, there are no packages with emerald as far as I can tell |
| 15:45.56 | xk | they're two totally different things |
| 15:45.57 | boudiccas | __name__; ourge |
| 15:46.03 | engrxyz | oh yeah confused or not but i got xmpp, jabber, sip, etc running active active |
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| 15:46.07 | stew | __name__: it depends on whether the config files are conffiles or not or managed with ucf, or somethign else, start with /msg dpkg confnew |
| 15:46.09 | boudiccas | __name__; purge i mean |
| 15:46.23 | engrxyz | xk, : make yours work first before you comment that i am confused |
| 15:46.27 | xk | engrxyz: I've implemented more than enough complex-requirement HA servers |
| 15:46.30 | muay-guy | hello, what did Debian renamed httpd binary to? |
| 15:46.38 | xk | if you are so smart |
| 15:46.39 | __name__ | boudiccas: but that uninstalls all things that depend on it. |
| 15:46.41 | xk | why are you having so many problems? |
| 15:46.42 | engrxyz | xk, : whatever ha is it not sure if that is with sip servers |
| 15:46.52 | xk | you're just wasting everyone's time |
| 15:46.57 | stew | muay-guy: are you asking about some particular httpd like apache2? |
| 15:46.59 | Iridos | riverboater, I meant you can remap the windows keys to act as escape... I dunno if one can change the definition of "meta" to be something else... might be |
| 15:47.15 | daemonkeeper | muay-guy: apache2 (most likely you mean) |
| 15:47.21 | riverboater | Well, it makes sense, since Meta isn't actually escape. |
| 15:47.31 | xk | engrxyz: I have a saying: If you think you are smarter than the problem, then you're going create many more problems yourself. |
| 15:47.42 | engrxyz | xk, : i don't have any problem with ultramonkey in fat it works very well for me....but i will be migrating all these stuff to a dell 1950 and this fucktard from bnx2 doesn't want to have their driver in debian |
| 15:48.03 | daemonkeeper | engrxyz: we told you at least four times which package you need |
| 15:48.05 | xk | google firmware-bn2 debian isntall |
| 15:48.09 | xk | bnx2 |
| 15:48.22 | engrxyz | xk, : you are confusing yourself..my question is related to bnx2 not working on debian 64.x lenny |
| 15:48.33 | riverboater | Iridos what I'm trying to do is get bash to recognize the meta key, not map the "windows key" to esc |
| 15:48.49 | xk | engrxyz: I made debian work with a bnx2 card in 2008. |
| 15:48.52 | xk | in 64 bit mode. |
| 15:48.59 | xk | so what am I confusing myself over? |
| 15:49.29 | engrxyz | oh good sows i need to get to the bathroom coz i am going to poop with this discussion |
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| 15:50.22 | xk | jesus. are people more stupid than 10 years ago? |
| 15:50.37 | __name__ | I doubt it. |
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| 15:50.52 | ujjain | How can I max out size with lvcreate? |
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| 15:51.03 | xk | or just more over-confident people around? |
| 15:51.04 | abrotman | xk: in this channel ... ? |
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| 15:51.06 | boudiccas | using kde on squeeze, i want the clock on the right of the panel at the bottom of the screen, with the system tray next to it, and then a space between the system tray and the virtual desktops pager on the extreme left with a space in between that shows what programs are open on that desktop. but how do i do it please? |
| 15:51.10 | xk | abrotman: yeah |
| 15:51.17 | xk | thsi channel went downhill since 2004 :) |
| 15:51.29 | abrotman | xk: i think there is a broader spectrum of linux users in general .. take that for what you will :) |
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| 15:51.42 | hopper7 | in the Setup it asks me for the time zone and gives choice between "eastern", "central", [...]. Can't I just say gmt+1 somehow? |
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| 15:52.01 | xk | a broader spectrum of users who dropped their training wheels a bit too early. |
| 15:52.03 | abrotman | hopper7: those are US timezones .. what country did you pick ? |
| 15:52.07 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 15:52.37 | __name__ | is dpkg (the bot) dead? |
| 15:52.44 | hopper7 | wtf, I picked USA (like I always do). but I want German time |
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| 15:52.58 | xk | no apt, no dpkg. wonderful :o |
| 15:53.01 | muay-guy | sorry stew I lost connection... I m having issues with a local site and I'm asking for help in #httpd,.. and I was told to do httpd -S |
| 15:53.02 | hopper7 | go to irc.debian.org into #debian for dpkg |
| 15:53.09 | stew | __name__: you can get the factoids from http://ircbots.debian.net |
| 15:53.12 | abrotman | huh? |
| 15:53.14 | screensilently | hello, how can i install debian on EEEpc? I tried dd the iso to a flash driver but it's not booting |
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| 15:53.24 | hopper7 | abrotman: isn't it possible? |
| 15:53.26 | abrotman | hopper7: dpkg is here too |
| 15:53.37 | abrotman | hopper7: it restricts timezones based on the ocuntry you pick |
| 15:53.42 | abrotman | !tell screensilently about eeepc |
| 15:53.54 | abrotman | ugh |
| 15:54.00 | abrotman | dselect: tell screensilently about eeepc |
| 15:54.01 | stew | muay-guy: /usr/sbin/apache2 i suppose. what exactly are you trying to do |
| 15:54.11 | abrotman | __name__: use dselect |
| 15:54.12 | hopper7 | abrotman: k, thanks |
| 15:54.19 | abrotman | never wanted to utter those words again :( |
| 15:54.31 | muay-guy | stew I'm trying to do httpd -S |
| 15:54.35 | xk | heh |
| 15:54.54 | xk | dselect needs to be renamed aptitude :) |
| 15:54.54 | dselect | xk: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 15:55.19 | stew | muay-guy: yes, i understand, but what problem are you trying to solve? |
| 15:56.37 | muay-guy | Im working on a website and when I click on the links (eg http://localhost/chicafashion/category/something) I get redirected to /var/www/index.php |
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| 15:56.58 | stew | muay-guy: did you modify /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default ? |
| 15:57.03 | stew | (or disable it) |
| 15:57.50 | muay-guy | don't recall having done so |
| 15:57.56 | stew | muay-guy: have a look at that file |
| 15:57.58 | muay-guy | I'll check it out |
| 15:58.03 | stew | muay-guy: but anyway, to answer your question, "/usr/sbin/apache2 -S" would be what you are looking for |
| 15:58.19 | stew | muay-guy: if you didn't edit or disable that file, where did you put your configuration? |
| 15:58.26 | riverboater | Iridos it seems you were right, the right way to do it is by setting the metasendsescape option in .xresources... thanks |
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| 15:58.58 | muay-guy | stew: the file's here |
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| 16:00.12 | ujjain | I ran rm -rf for 30 minutes and it still removed less than 800 megabytes... how can it be SO slow? |
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| 16:00.37 | xk | ujjain: how many files? |
| 16:00.53 | ujjain | xk: lots and lots of hard copies, but 30min - 900mb is extreme |
| 16:00.55 | xk | physical server or VM? |
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| 16:01.08 | ujjain | powerful VM. |
| 16:01.25 | xk | well... I did have one VM that took me 1 hour to create a backup of 4gigs of data :) |
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| 16:02.15 | ujjain | hmm, I use ext4, should be alright, rsync backups are fast. |
| 16:02.18 | ujjain | this is backuppc |
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| 16:02.20 | xk | ujjain: is the VM block-backed or virtual-image based? |
| 16:02.32 | xk | er, file-image baed |
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| 16:03.16 | ujjain | xk: It's VMWare ESXi. |
| 16:03.28 | xk | SATA? SAS? |
| 16:03.33 | xk | RAID10? RAID5? |
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| 16:04.01 | stew | ujjain: can you show us what a few seconds of "vmstat 1" outputs? |
| 16:04.15 | stew | actually i'm not sure anything really that useful would come out of it |
| 16:04.22 | xk | or maybe dstat? |
| 16:04.40 | ujjain | stew: during such a delete? |
| 16:04.43 | xk | would be mostly the same, except colourful :) |
| 16:04.45 | stew | yes |
| 16:04.46 | ujjain | I still have 23gb left of data, |
| 16:04.51 | ujjain | not sure how much got removed, but not many |
| 16:04.56 | ujjain | much* |
| 16:05.07 | xk | ujjain: the reason I asked the above is because they can also have an effect. |
| 16:05.16 | hopper7 | in the installation setup while partitioning/formatting the disk: when setting up the root filesystem, why is "bootable flag" by default turned off? Does the system even boot correctly after installation when one leaves it that way? |
| 16:05.26 | xk | i've seen some really poorly performance systems, especially hardware RAID ones. |
| 16:05.33 | xk | and software raid, too. |
| 16:05.37 | xk | seen and solved. |
| 16:05.47 | ujjain | the servers perform very well, but backuppc not so much |
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| 16:06.13 | xk | so it's reading and writing to the same array? |
| 16:06.41 | treebeen | hopper7: grub doesn't care about the bootable flag |
| 16:06.44 | MrTorque | hi. I need some help with troubleshooting a cifs mount. The mount takes more than 10 minutes. I do not know if it would succeed because it should work within <5 sec. |
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| 16:07.03 | Bananara | hallo leute |
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| 16:07.15 | ujjain | xk: no, just removing. |
| 16:07.18 | hopper7 | treebeen: so it doesn't matter whether it's set on or off? |
| 16:07.20 | ujjain | I shut down backuppc when doing rm -rf |
| 16:07.23 | MrTorque | i try to mount with mount -t cifs //192.168.100.5/backup-yfm1 -o username=yfm1server,password=xxxxxxx /backupServer |
| 16:07.32 | MrTorque | No error message, just nothing. |
| 16:07.46 | xk | ok... so the files... is it the size or the number of files? |
| 16:07.51 | MrTorque | 100.5 is pingable and the share is accessable with windoze |
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| 16:08.02 | Bananara | one question: i have a rootserver with debian 6.0 running. can somebody help me to install a graphical user interface with vnc or something like that? |
| 16:08.02 | boudiccas | using kde on squeeze, i want the clock on the right of the panel at the bottom of the screen, with the system tray next to it, and then a space between the system tray and the virtual desktops pager on the extreme left with a space in between that shows what programs are open on that desktop. but how do i do it please? |
| 16:08.19 | stew | lots of operations are slow when working with a big hardlink forest like backppc would create, though I'd not expect rm to be a problem |
| 16:08.28 | Bananara | would be nice if somebody could query me to help me |
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| 16:09.27 | valdyn | ujjain: why are you deleting a backuppc repository by file? |
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| 16:10.04 | ujjain | valdyn: uh, how should I delete it? |
| 16:10.09 | Mannequin | hi. I've successfully mounted some remote servers (FTP, SSH) using Nautilus. |
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| 16:10.19 | valdyn | ujjain: you should just format the fs |
| 16:10.19 | Mannequin | But I can't see them listed in ~/.gvfs/ |
| 16:10.24 | valdyn | ujjain: mkfs |
| 16:10.32 | Mannequin | I'm not sure where have been them mounted |
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| 16:10.41 | ujjain | valdyn: err, I don't want to remove everything, just some hosts. |
| 16:10.45 | valdyn | ujjain: its not exactly hidden that backuppcs creates millions of files |
| 16:10.56 | valdyn | ujjain: then you have to wait. |
| 16:10.59 | ujjain | I know how to remove a filesystem. |
| 16:11.06 | ujjain | when I remove a host, and run nightly run. |
| 16:11.09 | ujjain | it does not remove the files. |
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| 16:13.11 | stew | ujjain: what do you have set for your "nightly period'? |
| 16:13.47 | ujjain | stew: I ran it with 0 255 as parameters. |
| 16:14.25 | ujjain | - /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_nightly 0 255 |
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| 16:14.47 | ujjain | http://images.codepad.eu/v-ISmSn6.png - although load gets pretty high too |
| 16:14.52 | boudiccas | how do i get back to a graphical login if CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE dont register and work please? |
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| 16:15.24 | wols | boudiccas: what is your problem exactly? |
| 16:15.24 | xk | ujjain: load is nothing to worry about |
| 16:15.30 | xk | although... 50% system is a worry. |
| 16:15.51 | xk | kswapd is running at 7% hmmm even though 0 KB swap is used :) |
| 16:16.03 | xk | looks like a fs-related problem. |
| 16:16.06 | boudiccas | wols; i've killed the plasma desktop so want to log off and log on to recover it |
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| 16:16.36 | ujjain | hmm, backuppc server seems to get high load, cpu usage easily, |
| 16:16.36 | wols | boudiccas: kill your X server from a console |
| 16:16.38 | ZykoticK9 | boudiccas, alt+printscreen+k is new ctrl+alt+backspace |
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| 16:16.45 | ujjain | it's weird, it's the same template as other virtual machines |
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| 16:16.49 | ujjain | that are very very fast |
| 16:16.59 | xk | disk i/o isn't a problem... although 10% disk i/o ("wa" state) is all you want. |
| 16:17.05 | ZykoticK9 | boudiccas, wols suggestion would be "sudo service gdm restart" |
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| 16:17.26 | xk | ujjain: try a different file system? |
| 16:17.32 | MrTorque | weird... after doing some pinging the same command works |
| 16:17.34 | hopper7 | since when are Debian CD-/DVD-Images hybrig? |
| 16:17.34 | ujjain | xk: I use ext4. |
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| 16:17.49 | valdyn | xk: theres nothing better than ext4 for this |
| 16:17.50 | ZykoticK9 | hopper7, squeeze |
| 16:18.14 | hopper7 | k |
| 16:18.21 | ujjain | I created lvm on a server, it lists a new dm-0 disk now... weird? Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table |
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| 16:19.20 | ujjain | also, I cannot test fstab without rebooting, can I? |
| 16:19.28 | xk | "mount -a" |
| 16:19.48 | ujjain | ah ok, that mounted |
| 16:20.06 | boudiccas | ZykoticK9; thanks that worked although it was a bit of a stretch getting all keys depressed at one time! :) |
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| 16:20.34 | boudiccas | using kde on squeeze, i want the clock on the right of the panel at the bottom of the screen, with the system tray next to it, and then a space between the system tray and the virtual desktops pager on the extreme left with a space in between that shows what programs are open on that desktop. but how do i do it please? |
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| 16:20.39 | ujjain | thanks! :) brb |
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| 16:22.33 | michelem | how can I tell if a system is shutting down? |
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| 16:23.00 | michelem | I see runlevel shows "2 0", is there a more accurate/simpler way, like a shutdown flag? |
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| 16:23.50 | boudiccas | michelem; everything eventually stops and the machine switches off. is that it? :) |
| 16:24.07 | michelem | I need to feedback that on display. |
| 16:24.52 | boudiccas | michelem; what desktop, as there might be a kde widgit for doing that |
| 16:25.19 | michelem | it's on a very tight mobile phone, I need command line stuff |
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| 16:25.32 | boudiccas | ah right |
| 16:25.34 | Bushmills | michelem: don't shutdown with "now", but specify a shutdown time, then a shutdown warning will be sent to all consoles |
| 16:25.59 | michelem | Bushmills: right, but how to catch that? |
| 16:26.23 | Bushmills | "need to feedback that on display" - no need. done automatically |
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| 16:26.26 | michelem | simplest yet is still "test `runlevel` | grep -q 0" |
| 16:26.52 | michelem | Bushmills: display is graphical (icewm + dzen2) |
| 16:27.05 | boudiccas | using kde on squeeze, i want the clock on the right of the panel at the bottom of the screen, with the system tray next to it, and then a space between the system tray and the virtual desktops pager on the extreme left with a space in between that shows what programs are open on that desktop. but how do i do it please? |
| 16:27.32 | xk | dselect: repeat |
| 16:27.32 | dselect | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 16:28.20 | Bushmills | michelem: put some remote notifying action script in /etc/init.d, and make it a runlevel change action |
| 16:28.31 | hopper7 | what's the difference between dpkg and dselect? (I mean the IRC bots) |
| 16:28.58 | Bushmills | you probably want to execute it early |
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| 16:31.22 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: i don't understand why that would be difficult. Unlock the toolbar and mess with it, move things around, add things. |
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| 16:34.31 | twobitsprite | ugh... I hate it when people write blog posts trying to explain how to do something, and they make amateur errors, like using *.* .... |
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| 16:35.24 | ZykoticK9 | twobitsprite, was the blog about MS-DOS ;) |
| 16:35.40 | twobitsprite | ZykoticK9: hehe... in my comment I even said "this isn't DOS" |
| 16:35.46 | twobitsprite | http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/5-amazing-gnome-shell-themes-and-how-to.html |
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| 16:36.33 | twobitsprite | and almost as bad, he tars the contents of the directory instead of the directory itself... I hate that |
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| 16:37.16 | lukosanthropos | twobitsprite *.* is valid if they only want files with extensions and to do it badly, clearly if he wanted to do it well he would have tar'd the directory or been more intelligent |
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| 16:37.49 | nikin | twobitsprite: depends on what one is used to ... *.* is sure != * , but taring the directory or the contents really depends on preference |
| 16:40.10 | twobitsprite | lukosanthropos: sure, it's a valid glob pattern, but clearly not the intent... it's not like he was explicitely trying to *not* tar files without .'s in them |
| 16:40.43 | twobitsprite | nikin: I have never downloaded a tarball from a respected developer or packager who let the tarball puke all over the current directory... |
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| 16:41.10 | nikin | people have some bad habits... like me, and the 256 color xterm i use. It creates sometimes problems with ssh logins. Still i use it for vim, so thats the default. on modern systems using gvim vould be a better choice when running X |
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| 16:42.02 | twobitsprite | nikin: I wouldn't call that a bad habbit. I run vim in rxvt-unicode instead of running gvim :) |
| 16:42.03 | jhutchins_lt2 | twobitsprite: Does mozilla count? |
| 16:42.21 | twobitsprite | jhutchins_lt2: count for what? does their tarball puke in the cwd? |
| 16:42.31 | jhutchins_lt2 | twobitsprite: They have in the past. |
| 16:42.35 | twobitsprite | yuck |
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| 16:43.50 | twobitsprite | doesn't anymore it seems... just downloaded it and it neatly extracts to a directory |
| 16:44.13 | nikin | twobitsprite: thats true. And most people learn to tar dirs normally, only doing files in special cases |
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| 16:46.42 | nikin | twobitsprite: the bad habbit is using 256 color xterm. It hit me on sh couple of times |
| 16:47.15 | twobitsprite | I'm not sure what color depth I'm using on mine, whatever the default for urxvt is |
| 16:47.38 | twobitsprite | but I've never had any problems with ssh |
| 16:47.45 | nikin | urxvt is 8 or 16 color as far as i remember |
| 16:47.58 | jhutchins_lt | proposes that the topic return to debian support. |
| 16:48.13 | twobitsprite | looks for anyone actually talking about debian support and finds none |
| 16:48.59 | nikin | is discussing todos and dontdos :) trying to create good usr habits :) |
| 16:49.15 | twobitsprite | nikin: +1 |
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| 16:52.38 | tharkun | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:01.57 | screensilently | Hello, how can I put debian's iso to a usb stick, so I can install it on a notebook? |
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| 17:02.14 | tharkun | Gentlemen i have a few installs of sqlite on a server which is scheduled to be updated this evening, backup of the databases are also scheduled. Should i expect trouble if squeeze works with lennys databases for a few hours? |
| 17:02.24 | primary | GENTLEMEN. |
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| 17:02.49 | nikin | tharkun: what version of sqlite? |
| 17:03.09 | wols | !tell screensilently about usb install |
| 17:03.11 | bzed | screensilently: take the netinst cd image and just dd it to the usb stick |
| 17:03.25 | bzed | screensilently: and read the install documentation, its all mentioned in there. |
| 17:03.34 | tharkun | nikin: Package sqlite on i386 -- lenny: 2.8.17-4; sid: 2.8.17-6; squeeze: 2.8.17-6; wheezy: 2.8.17-6 |
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| 17:04.07 | tharkun | I am unsure what the 4 and 6 mean. (better safe than sorry) |
| 17:04.19 | bzed | !revision |
| 17:04.25 | bzed | :( |
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| 17:04.55 | nikin | tharkun: dont expect any problems. |
| 17:05.11 | stew | %debian revision |
| 17:05.11 | dselect | [debian revision] a number added to the package number to show that the Debian maintainers for the package have had a number of attempts at the packaging. The Debian revision is the string after the last - in the version (1.2.3-5 has a Debian revision of 5) and will also indicate a security update (e.g.1+lenny2) or an NMU. Ask me about <nmu> <binnmu> <compare versions> <version epoch>, or section 5.6.12 of <policy> |
| 17:05.28 | nikin | tharkun: still a backup does not hurt. |
| 17:06.33 | tharkun | Can any dd do nmu to a package if it needs the aditional features inside it? |
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| 17:06.49 | screensilently | bzed: because i can't understand it. i have a fat32 formatted usb stick, and debian's iso. what i type to put the iso in the usb stick and be bootable? |
| 17:07.09 | ujjain | How can I make sure backuppc does not cause high load? It uses more cpu than any other virtual machines, bacula/rsnapshot use 50x less resources |
| 17:07.10 | tharkun | !unetbootin |
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| 17:08.41 | screensilently | someone help me please. |
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| 17:10.10 | sveinse | I am writing a package, and make install can't accept path in DESTDIR, but INSTALL_PATH instead. I planned on using "override_dh_auto_install" in rules, however I can't figure out how to get the DESTDIR path within the rules files. |
| 17:10.29 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 17:10.37 | tharkun | abrotman: dpkg is awall |
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| 17:10.49 | tharkun | %unetbootin |
| 17:10.49 | dselect | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions, packaged for Debian. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ See also <usb install>. |
| 17:11.01 | tharkun | screensilently: ^^ |
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| 17:11.02 | sveinse | E.g. make INSTALL_ROOT=$(DESTDIR) install fails; I see from the logs that "make INSTALL_ROOT= install" is called |
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| 17:11.20 | screensilently | tharkun: i want to do it manually.. |
| 17:11.29 | tharkun | %usb install |
| 17:11.29 | dselect | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 17:11.36 | tharkun | screensilently: ^^ |
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| 17:11.47 | tharkun | take a look there also |
| 17:12.01 | abrotman | tharkun: AWOL |
| 17:12.07 | abrotman | tharkun: it's been happening for a few days |
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| 17:12.17 | abrotman | dselect: tell sveinse about mentors |
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| 17:13.46 | sveinse | Can mentors be used for asking questions for packages that won't become a part of Debian? |
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| 17:14.33 | daemonkeeper | sveinse: Yes, but note mentors only allows source packages. Perhaps you want to use Launchpad or so. |
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| 17:15.22 | hopper7 | I just installed debian testing, which is an image from June 20., did an apt-get update && upgrade and it says no upgrades. It looks suspicious, I mean no updates for ten days??? |
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| 17:15.40 | SpeCon | can anyone tell me what command i have to use in terminal to find our how many file decriptors are into my system ? |
| 17:15.42 | daemonkeeper | hopper7: What's in your sources.list? |
| 17:15.42 | SpeCon | on debian |
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| 17:15.58 | daemonkeeper | SpeCon: File descriptors are local to a process |
| 17:16.04 | SpeCon | eum |
| 17:16.06 | trebor_dki | hi. mactel-core2duo here. which debian6 ist most suitable (standard, ia64, amb64)? |
| 17:16.20 | SpeCon | daemonkeeper, they need to know how many file decriptors my server have .. for an irc server |
| 17:16.20 | hopper7 | daemonkeeper: deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main \n deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org wheezy main |
| 17:16.37 | SpeCon | daemonkeeper, Number of file descriptors compiled in kernel: |
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| 17:16.55 | hopper7 | daemonkeeper: there seems the normal repo to be missing, doesn't it? |
| 17:17.09 | daemonkeeper | hopper7: Indeed |
| 17:17.43 | abrotman | hopper7: where are you geographically? |
| 17:18.20 | daemonkeeper | SpeCon: Well, sysctl -a | grep fs.file-max. This can be changes the same way |
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| 17:19.18 | abrotman | hopper7: something like "deb http://ftp.plusline.de/debian/ wheezy main" |
| 17:19.56 | hopper7 | I added de.debian.org (I am German) |
| 17:20.09 | daemonkeeper | That's fine either |
| 17:20.42 | SpeCon | daemonkeeper, how to check wich version of named is running on my debian system |
| 17:20.49 | ujjain | what are mentors? |
| 17:20.54 | SpeCon | and version of sync program |
| 17:21.08 | daemonkeeper | judd: version bind9 |
| 17:21.13 | daemonkeeper | judd: versions bind9 |
| 17:21.14 | judd | Package bind9 on i386 -- lenny: 1:9.6.ESV.R3+dfsg-0+lenny1; lenny-proposed-updates: 1:9.6.ESV.R4+dfsg-0+lenny2; lenny-security: 1:9.6.ESV.R4+dfsg-0+lenny2; lenny-backports: 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze2; squeeze-security: 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze2; sid: 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1+b1; wheezy: 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1+b1 |
| 17:21.19 | daemonkeeper | ^- SpeCon |
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| 17:21.46 | daemonkeeper | ujjain: http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/welcome |
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| 17:25.01 | TimmyT | how to restart samba server? |
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| 17:25.09 | homie | fucking robbers! |
| 17:25.17 | daemonkeeper | Like every other daemon |
| 17:25.44 | TimmyT | daemonkeeper: well, there is nothin in /etc/init.d for it |
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| 17:25.56 | daemonkeeper | There is certainly. |
| 17:26.01 | abrotman | should be, unless you didn't install it via debian packages |
| 17:26.23 | TimmyT | but i did, and im sure it is installed |
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| 17:26.43 | daemonkeeper | TimmyT: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/samba/filelist Look, first file |
| 17:26.48 | abrotman | TimmyT: so you should have /etc/init.d/samba |
| 17:26.48 | daemonkeeper | err, second. |
| 17:26.55 | abrotman | fail :( |
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| 17:30.58 | Iridos | hm, from when on would xfs threaten to become heavily fragmented? I've actually managed to arrive at /dev/sda3 Size 745G Used 731G Free 15G 99% / |
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| 17:34.13 | abrotman | debhelper: fix your internet! |
| 17:34.40 | daemonkeeper | apt-get install internet? |
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| 17:35.12 | boudiccas | using kde on squeeze, i want the clock on the right of the panel at the bottom of the screen, with the system tray next to it, and then a space between the system tray and the virtual desktops pager on the extreme left with a space in between that shows what programs are open on that desktop. but how do i do it please? |
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| 17:35.39 | cousin_mario | hello |
| 17:35.47 | cousin_mario | how do I get rid of ipv6 for good? |
| 17:35.59 | abrotman | dselect: noipv6 |
| 17:35.59 | dselect | To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for this change to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
| 17:36.15 | cousin_mario | abrotman: same goes for squeeze? |
| 17:36.20 | daemonkeeper | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#How_to_turn_off_IPv6 |
| 17:36.20 | abrotman | boudiccas: do you do what? |
| 17:36.23 | abrotman | cousin_mario: i believe |
| 17:36.27 | cousin_mario | abrotman: thanks |
| 17:36.39 | stew | cousin_mario: what do you mean by "same goes for squeeze"? |
| 17:36.53 | cousin_mario | stew: sorry, missed the second part:) |
| 17:36.58 | stew | that's what I thought :) |
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| 17:37.28 | abrotman | oh, misread too :) |
| 17:37.53 | cousin_mario | again, how do I add a default option for every kernel using grub? |
| 17:38.06 | cousin_mario | or will it be brought over when upgrading? |
| 17:38.21 | daemonkeeper | cousin_mario: You want to edit /etc/default/grub2 |
| 17:38.31 | daemonkeeper | (assuming you do have grub2) |
| 17:38.53 | cousin_mario | daemonkeeper: I'm still on grub 1 |
| 17:38.56 | boudiccas | abrotman; how do i get the panel as i described? |
| 17:39.16 | daemonkeeper | Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst then. There are some magic lines. Just read the file |
| 17:39.45 | abrotman | boudiccas: a screenshot might be better |
| 17:39.49 | abrotman | cousin_mario: wtf, why? |
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| 17:40.24 | cousin_mario | abrotman: I must confess I'm not running a kosher debian installation here:) |
| 17:40.45 | boudiccas | abrotman; but how do i get a screenshot please? |
| 17:40.59 | boudiccas | i've never done one before |
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| 17:41.19 | stew | cousin_mario: the magic line you are looking for in menu.lst is # kopt= |
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| 17:41.34 | stew | !wb |
| 17:41.35 | dpkg | thanks, stew. It's good to be back. |
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| 17:42.10 | cousin_mario | stew: right! thanks |
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| 17:42.58 | abrotman | dpkg: goodbye |
| 17:42.58 | dpkg | Goodbye to you too, abrotman |
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| 17:44.36 | boudiccas | how do i get a screenshot please? |
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| 17:45.17 | daemonkeeper | For KDE, use ksnapshot. Gnome might have something similar. |
| 17:45.20 | stew | !screenshot |
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| 17:45.36 | stew | did we lose dpkg already? |
| 17:45.37 | abrotman | hands stew a % |
| 17:45.42 | abrotman | i said goodbye! |
| 17:45.51 | abrotman | %screenshot |
| 17:45.51 | dselect | To take a screenshot of your current desktop, you can probably just hit the "PrintScreen" key on your keyboard (Gnome and KDE). Alternatives include ksnapshot, gnome-panel-screenshot, the Gimp's "Acquire->Screenshot", "import -window root screenshot.jpg" (imagemagick package), scrot, xwd. For framebuffer consoles, use fbgrab. http://wiki.debian.org/ScreenShots http://screenshots.debian.net/ |
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| 17:46.12 | _dirtycookie | hi peeps, |
| 17:46.16 | abrotman | wonders how effective debhelper can be like this ... |
| 17:46.20 | boudiccas | daemonkeeper; thanks, simple! :) |
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| 17:46.49 | _dirtycookie | i wanted to know if there is a possibility to cache several webcontents for offline use and also to save bandwidth usage |
| 17:47.13 | daemonkeeper | You are asking for a caching proxy? |
| 17:47.33 | cousin_mario | thanks everyone |
| 17:47.35 | cousin_mario | goodbye |
| 17:47.36 | daemonkeeper | If so, consider using Squid. |
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| 17:49.22 | scampbell | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:49.50 | _dirtycookie | daemonkeeper: well kinda, i want to use such a solution for my laptop. if it is squid, do u know a proper solution |
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| 17:50.50 | daemonkeeper | _dirtycookie: You can certainly run Squid on your laptop, if its worth for you. Smaller alternatives like privoxy don't cache, as far as I can tell (with a slightly different purpose) |
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| 17:51.37 | _dirtycookie | daemonkeeper: did u have such an experience |
| 17:51.38 | _dirtycookie | ? |
| 17:51.44 | daemonkeeper | To do that? Install Squid? |
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| 17:52.29 | _dirtycookie | daeminkeeper: yes |
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| 17:53.05 | daemonkeeper | Sure, but on gateways only. I never used it for a single client. That's perhaps a bit useless, you could configure a similar behavior in your proxy. |
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| 17:53.17 | daemonkeeper | err |
| 17:53.20 | daemonkeeper | in your browser I meant |
| 17:53.24 | _dirtycookie | hmmm.... ok |
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| 17:54.20 | daemonkeeper | Technically you can certainly do what you were considering |
| 17:54.24 | boudiccas | abrotman; http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/snapshot1.png ......... is the snapshot showing how my screen is at present |
| 17:54.58 | abrotman | okay .. and? |
| 17:55.02 | _dirtycookie | daemonkeeper: ok, from a different perspective, i visit some sites quite often and instead of being dependent so much on the internet i would like to have the webcontent locally for offline use |
| 17:55.31 | daemonkeeper | _dirtycookie: There are browser plugins to achieve this. |
| 17:56.07 | _dirtycookie | daemonkeeper: ah really?? 4 firefox? |
| 17:56.15 | _dirtycookie | daemonkeeper: what is it called? |
| 17:56.34 | daemonkeeper | http://readitlaterlist.com/ |
| 17:57.20 | ujjain | stew: do you have any idea why bacula is so much faster than backuppc? |
| 17:57.28 | boudiccas | if you look at my screenshot .....http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/snapshot1.png......... it shows my desktop as it is at present. but i want the clock moved to the extreme right with the system tray next to it, and then remaining space being used to show what programmes are in that virtual desktop |
| 17:57.47 | boudiccas | but, how do i get it as i want please? |
| 17:58.00 | stew | ujjain: i don't know anything about bacula, other than it is some kind of backup system |
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| 17:58.19 | daemonkeeper | A pretty complex and feature-rich actually |
| 17:58.25 | ujjain | stew: right :) I'd prefer using backuppc, but it's slow, |
| 17:58.36 | themill | boudiccas: that sounds awfully like the default setup; but perhaps #kde can help more. |
| 17:58.53 | stew | can those things not just be dragged around at will? |
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| 17:59.11 | boudiccas | themill; yes it is the default setup, but how do i get it back to it please? |
| 17:59.14 | ujjain | stew: for me? I don't follow |
| 17:59.23 | stew | ujjain: not fo ryou |
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| 18:01.57 | teratorn | has anyone set up a sid chroot on squeeze? I'm getting a silly error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/425007/ |
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| 18:03.56 | teratorn | trying to run the failing command manually results in: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/425010/ |
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| 18:05.25 | abrotman | teratorn: in the latest devel news, they had a mention of something like that |
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| 18:05.52 | abrotman | teratorn: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/06/msg00002.html |
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| 18:06.12 | abrotman | debhelper: stay! |
| 18:08.09 | daemonkeeper | debhelper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Gn0e7kvTA |
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| 18:08.39 | IRRC | hola amigos! |
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| 18:12.24 | boudiccas | if you look at my screenshot .....http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/snapshot1.png......... it shows my desktop as it is at present. but i want the clock moved to the extreme right with the system tray next to it, and then remaining space being used to show what programmes are in that virtual desktop but, how do i get it as i want please? this is to get back to the default desktop, this on debian 6 and kde |
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| 18:15.19 | ogzy | anybody know how to fix the lpadmin -v bad device-uri problem for a new backend at debian?, do you think dpkg-reconfigure cups will see the new backend and i will see it listes at lpinfo -v output? |
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| 18:17.26 | lapsusbrutus | Anyone using mediawiki? just aptituded it, now what? since I didnt build it my self, theres no howto and no man file either |
| 18:18.11 | stew | lapsusbrutus: the first place to look is /usr/share/doc/mediawiki/README.Debian* |
| 18:18.16 | abrotman | lapsusbrutus: /usr/share/doc/medaiwiki/ ? |
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| 18:21.50 | lapsusbrutus | ok:) thanks |
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| 18:23.00 | simonlnu | !wb |
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| 18:23.03 | dpkg | thanks, simonlnu. It's good to be back. |
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| 18:24.25 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: Unlock the tool bar, drag the clock to where you want it, drag the other items to where you want them. |
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| 18:25.15 | boudiccas | jhutchins; but they don't stay where they're put, they just snap back to their starting point |
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| 18:27.34 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: http://picpaste.com/desktop-3w8Jt4F2.png |
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| 18:30.04 | boudiccas | jhutchins; yes, thats what i want |
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| 18:33.55 | jc319 | I used "Places > Connect" to connect to a Windows share, it is now on the desktop and I can access the contents by clicking on the icon. However I can't find the full linux path anywhere, properties shows a smb:// link. Does this mean I cannot access to this share as a standard linux directory? |
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| 18:57.21 | lapsusbrutus | abrotman: there are broken symbolic links after mediawiki install on wheezy it seems.. ill try a --purge and try again ( /var/lib/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php: broken symbolic link to `/etc/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php' ) |
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| 19:06.34 | lapsusbrutus | http://www.myserver.org/mediawiki/config/index.php config folder do not exist as it should as it said in readme.debian.. hmm, to me, wheezy package looks broken. compiling then... |
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| 19:07.26 | stew | lapsusbrutus: what folder doesn't exist? |
| 19:07.37 | stew | lapsusbrutus: if you think it is broken, check the bts |
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| 19:07.57 | stew | lapsusbrutus: though I'd be that the problem is that you deleted stuff, and the package isn't recreating it on purpose (/msg dpkg confmiss) |
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| 19:11.33 | MacEochaidh | good evening! |
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| 19:12.17 | MacEochaidh | I'm on a system with Lenny, and I have neither the expertise nor the time to upgrade it to Squeeze |
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| 19:12.45 | MacEochaidh | I want to update various packages to more recent versions, but when I, for example, do: |
| 19:12.46 | MacEochaidh | apt-get upgrade mysql-common libmysqlclient15-dev libmysqlclient15off |
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| 19:13.09 | MacEochaidh | it gives me a series of errors like: |
| 19:13.11 | MacEochaidh | Err http://http.us.debian.org lenny/main base-files 5lenny3 |
| 19:13.11 | MacEochaidh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.18 | lapsusbrutus | stew: /etc/mediawiki/* (only 2 files there) I havent deleted anything that I know about |
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| 19:14.49 | stew | lapsusbrutus: does "dpkg -s mediawiki" list conffiles other than those two in /etc/mediawiki? |
| 19:15.40 | stew | MacEochaidh: "base-files" in there seems odd. can you show us your sources.list using a pastebin? |
| 19:15.41 | Iridos | MacEochaidh, it's apt-get install <package> or better aptitude install <package> ... upgrade always upgrades all. did you run "apt-get update"? |
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| 19:16.03 | Iridos | and what stew said |
| 19:16.04 | Iridos | <--- slow |
| 19:16.07 | MacEochaidh | just did, Iridos, and that seems to have been the issue |
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| 19:16.55 | Iridos | still a good idea to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:16.59 | MacEochaidh | shame, and as a user-interface issue counterintuitive, that it's now upgrading everything |
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| 19:17.57 | lapsusbrutus | stew: hmm no, hmm but then the README.debian is old/broken then |
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| 19:18.11 | stew | lapsusbrutus: how is the README.debian broken? |
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| 19:20.00 | lapsusbrutus | tried to start the start script as explained there and files didnt exist, broken symlinks etc |
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| 19:20.35 | stew | lapsusbrutus: what file didn't exist? |
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| 19:23.01 | lapsusbrutus | http://127.0.0.1/mediawiki/config/index.php Im told to do this. but nothing there |
| 19:23.14 | project2501a | daaaaamn |
| 19:23.15 | stew | lapsusbrutus: did you configure apache to serve this page? |
| 19:23.23 | project2501a | if i iever loose my vision, i am f*cked |
| 19:23.33 | project2501a | the braile keyboard readers go for 10k USD |
| 19:23.38 | project2501a | brb |
| 19:24.02 | stew | "You may of course configure your webserver to serve this URL. A default configuration can be found in /etc/mediawiki/" |
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| 19:24.21 | stew | lapsusbrutus: does /usr/share/mediawiki/config/index.php exist? |
| 19:24.53 | primary | what year will we have 5TB HDD |
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| 19:26.48 | lapsusbrutus | stew: yeah |
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| 19:26.56 | jhutchins_lt | What's a keyboard reader? |
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| 19:27.37 | Iridos | prolly like an ebook reader |
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| 19:27.54 | stew | lapsusbrutus: so the file isn't missing, it seems that you just have to configure apache to serve /mediawiki |
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| 19:28.57 | somiaj | primary: lvm a few drives together. Though its the TB sized SSD I'm waiting for. |
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| 19:29.22 | daemonkeeper | That will take a while. |
| 19:29.44 | primary | lvm two 3TBs, and have four of them for RAID1 |
| 19:29.51 | primary | brilliant |
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| 19:29.56 | somiaj | yea I'm not rich enough to want to spend on a 30GB SSD just for my os |
| 19:29.58 | primary | AES256-XTS |
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| 19:30.02 | rhenani | hello guyus |
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| 19:30.36 | rhenani | I have a question, how do i transfer a file from a debian operating system to another debian operating system |
| 19:30.44 | rhenani | i have the ip and every of the other pc |
| 19:31.03 | lapsusbrutus | stew: ohh, I guess your right. Though that was automaticly ok. A reinstall of apache? |
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| 19:31.10 | rhenani | bboth are mine but i need to transfer a file from this computer to that one |
| 19:31.13 | rhenani | how do i do it? |
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| 19:32.11 | stew | lapsusbrutus: no, you don't have to reinstall it, you just have to configure it. they gave you a sample snippet in /etc/mediawiki/apache.php |
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| 19:32.14 | stew | err |
| 19:32.15 | stew | apache.conf |
| 19:32.54 | somiaj | rhenani: I prefer to use ssh to transfer things. with ssh server running on one of the machines (or both) you can transfer with scp, rsync and other tools. |
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| 19:33.56 | somiaj | rhenani: but if you have sshd running, "scp <server1>:<source file> <server2>:<dest>" |
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| 19:37.06 | lapsusbrutus | stew: ahhh now I see.. problem was me being stupid it seems.. I think I know to do now,, at least in theory :) |
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| 19:38.50 | daemonkeeper | somiaj: Better use server to server copy, and even better use sftp instead of scp |
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| 19:39.34 | stew | daemonkeeper: wait, way would one choose sftp over scp? |
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| 19:40.41 | daemonkeeper | stew: Because sftp is a standardized file transfer protocol over SSH where SCP is random copy of allowed/available commands, no way standardized (don't confuse sftp with ftps) |
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| 19:41.27 | stew | daemonkeeper: i don't understand the "random copy of..." part. what do you mean? |
| 19:42.17 | ajikeshi__ | stew, they just took stuff thats working atm and build something around it |
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| 19:42.29 | ajikeshi__ | without even considering standardizing it? |
| 19:42.52 | daemonkeeper | stew: scp is basically a subset of a (restricted) shell + put which are expected to be available on the remote peer. It is no way standardized which commands _have_ to be available. So different SSH servers have different understandings of what scp is |
| 19:42.54 | ajikeshi__ | you can see that.. as there is no rfc for scp |
| 19:43.12 | vinsci | is any Debian version affected by the remote sshd root exploit? https://twitter.com/#!/kaepora/status/86503964517994496 |
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| 19:43.27 | daemonkeeper | vinsci: Note the "last update 7 years ago" |
| 19:43.41 | daemonkeeper | vinsci: That said, only _long_ obsolete versions are affected, if any. |
| 19:43.41 | stew | ajikeshi__: you can also see that there is no rfc for sftp |
| 19:43.53 | rhenani | somiaj: I have ssh but when i do Shortcuts |
| 19:43.53 | rhenani | ssh user@host |
| 19:44.00 | ajikeshi__ | stew, sftp is just a "encapsulation" thingy |
| 19:44.08 | vinsci | daemonkeeper, that sounds reassuring. thanks. |
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| 19:44.13 | stew | ajikeshi__: how is that different from scp? |
| 19:44.16 | daemonkeeper | stew: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/secsh/draft-ietf-secsh-filexfer/ (draft) |
| 19:44.25 | vinsci | going to keep sshd off for a while though |
| 19:44.32 | stew | daemonkeeper: what is a situation that might exist where scp would fail? |
| 19:44.33 | somiaj | vinsci: check the debian secuirty annoucments -- any officially supported debian version in lenny or squeese (And the one the on that propragets though sid) will all be fixed |
| 19:44.37 | ajikeshi__ | stew, if the server supports ssl/tls whatever ftp works encrypted... |
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| 19:44.49 | rhenani | somiaj: it gives this error: ssh: connect to host 172.16.109.165 port 22: Connection refused |
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| 19:44.54 | stew | ajikeshi__: what does ftp have to do with anything? |
| 19:45.19 | daemonkeeper | stew: Just try to copy to a restricted shell or to a commercial (i.e. not OpenSSH) SSH implementation. |
| 19:45.21 | somiaj | rhenani: sounds like the ssh server isn't running. "scp file1 user@server:/loc/to/copy" |
| 19:45.23 | dokma | I know diff -rq can compare directories but I wonder if I can uset it to find files that are missing in folder B but are available in folder A |
| 19:45.28 | ajikeshi__ | if you dont have a "standard" ssh server (with which i mean a highly customized yet rfc-conform one) scp might not work |
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| 19:45.46 | dokma | so not a simmetrical comparison but just find out which files available in one folder are not in another |
| 19:45.46 | somiaj | rhenani: though I'd listen to daemonkeeper and not use scp if you want a standard protocol -- scp works fine for me, but it appears there are issues. |
| 19:46.22 | stew | daemonkeeper: try sftp to a restricted server that doesn't allow sftp... |
| 19:46.34 | ajikeshi__ | stew, then you can fallback to ftp |
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| 19:46.45 | stew | ajikeshi__: that is a horrible idea |
| 19:46.45 | ajikeshi__ | since the s is just an additional layer |
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| 19:47.01 | stew | ... |
| 19:47.04 | ajikeshi__ | stew, then get the serveradmin to enable encryption |
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| 19:47.18 | ajikeshi__ | brb |
| 19:47.22 | stew | ajikeshi__: i think you missed the point of this conversation entirely |
| 19:47.31 | ajikeshi__ | probably |
| 19:47.39 | daemonkeeper | stew: Well, yes. My point isn't that scp would be bad or you should expect it to fail as long as you use OpenSSH on both edges. Its just that we shall migrate to a more sane solution in the long term. |
| 19:47.56 | manitou | is it alternative for Direct Connect Client aka dc++ for linux ? |
| 19:48.06 | rhenani | somiaj: cp: cannot stat `file1': No such file or directory |
| 19:48.06 | rhenani | ssh: connect to host 172.16.109.165 port 22: Connection refused |
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| 19:49.14 | somiaj | well use the correct name for the file of course...and as I said, if your getting connenction refused, its most likely you don't have a ssh server running. |
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| 19:50.18 | rhenani | somiaj: conection refused |
| 19:50.29 | rhenani | somiaj: how do i get ssh server running? |
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| 19:51.07 | daemonkeeper | stew: Just as a final note, while you can't (easily) use a scponly shell (unless you install the program of the same name), this is, for example, no problem to sftp. |
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| 19:52.15 | stew | daemonkeeper: i don't follow, but i think i understand your points. but this seems irrelevant in this case |
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| 19:52.38 | somiaj | rhenani: are these computers close to each other, use a thumb drive, or goto goole and read up. apt-get install ssh 'should' work. |
| 19:52.39 | stew | and the "one of the machines might not be using a free ssh server" is completely a foreign concept to me |
| 19:53.23 | daemonkeeper | stew: Well, you can exchange "free" by "another than your local scp supplier". |
| 19:54.09 | rhenani | somiaj: yes i have them in front of me |
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| 19:54.50 | somiaj | rhenani: grab a thumb drive and stop bothering me -- there are many ways you can do it, over ssh is the best -- goto google to read up on that -- you can also use ftp, http, and many other methods, though maybe a usb thumb drive will be easiest for you. |
| 19:55.06 | daemonkeeper | stew: Besides you are certainly right, for the particular use case requested this does not matter (pretending every involved party uses an OpenSSH compliant client) |
| 19:55.56 | iceisfun | I get a : symbol lookup error /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 undefined symbol ... when using aptitude |
| 19:56.10 | daemonkeeper | iceisfun: Are you using sid? |
| 19:56.29 | iceisfun | its someone elses machine, im not sure what happened to it but im trying to recover it |
| 19:57.12 | SrTroll | HEY WHO CAN HELP ME WITH A WIN32 ERROR |
| 19:57.17 | somiaj | daemonkeeper: anyways thanks, I didn't realize that scp wasn't standarized -- though a nice replacement would be nice -- since I like the basic ease of use of scp (when both servers are debian over openSSH) |
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| 19:58.06 | Strav | He. I have a samba share automatically mounted as cifs from fstab using the _netdev and soft options but still, if my network connection fails, every process trying to access the mounted share hangs. Any suggestion? |
| 19:58.11 | daemonkeeper | somiaj: You can use the "sftp" command almost as drop-in replacement |
| 19:59.05 | somiaj | daemonkeeper: I'll look into it, but I got to run. have a good day |
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| 20:01.48 | rhenani | how do install vmware workstation tools in a debian-guest operating system |
| 20:02.27 | chicomarx | I just burned debian to a dvd, but my sony vaio refuses to boot from it. I already checked the bios, even if I disable my hard drive the dvd doesnt boot. I tried google but my problem is too genral, can't find anything specific to solve it. |
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| 20:04.50 | chicomarx | I hear the dvd spinning during boot, but the software doesn't load. maybe I have the wrong kernel. I'm using intel 64. |
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| 20:05.08 | Black_Prince | chicomarx, ia64 ? |
| 20:05.11 | D3814N | rhenani, https://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_newguest_tools_linux.html |
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| 20:05.28 | chicomarx | is ia64 |
| 20:05.35 | chicomarx | I mean yes ia64 |
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| 20:05.45 | Dev0n | over 3000 TIME_WAIT isn't too good is it ? |
| 20:05.57 | Black_Prince | chicomarx, I guess you don't have Intel Ithanium processor. If you have intel procesor capable of running 64 bit instructions you should download amd64 one |
| 20:05.59 | Dev0n | on a single port |
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| 20:06.55 | chicomarx | really? amd64? I was downloading i386, would that possibly work or should I just cancel that? |
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| 20:07.06 | Black_Prince | i386 will work too. |
| 20:07.51 | Black_Prince | chicomarx, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium |
| 20:08.07 | chicomarx | oh... then I will use that... I suppose a 32 system will save me more hassel anyway. thanks. |
| 20:08.16 | chicomarx | thanl you :) |
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| 20:08.29 | chovy | anyone know how to bypass an ssh key when logging into a host? I want to use my password as if I didn't use keys. |
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| 20:09.12 | Arrowmaster | if you arent being prompted for a password it sounds like the host has password auth disabled |
| 20:09.57 | pipeline | chovy: man ssh_config, then on the commandline, ssh -o whatever=no |
| 20:10.10 | pipeline | chovy: it'll be like "RSAKeyAuthentication=no" or something |
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| 20:11.55 | themill | PubkeyAuthentication |
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| 20:13.39 | smhar | how to keep the ssh connection alive? it keeps hanging on me if idle for some time and I need to reconnect again |
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| 20:15.39 | chovy | pipeline: thanks |
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| 20:15.57 | pipeline | smhar: ssh -o ClientAliveInterval=5 |
| 20:16.07 | pipeline | smhar: err other way around, ServerAliveInterval=5 |
| 20:16.22 | pipeline | smhar: (you set ClientAliveInterval on the server to do the same thing in the opposite direction) |
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| 20:17.26 | smhar | pipeline, it is my shared hosting server |
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| 20:17.53 | Innocentus | hi |
| 20:18.06 | pipeline | smhar: it doesn't particularly matter which side issues the keepalives. If on the client, set ServerAliveInterval. If on the server, set ClientAliveInterval. Clearer? |
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| 20:18.22 | Innocentus | am I right here for problems with php5 extension packages (managed with apt)? |
| 20:18.33 | smhar | pipeline, yes, thank you |
| 20:19.32 | Innocentus | anyone here with expertise in such things? |
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| 20:23.15 | Innocentus | PHP Warning: Cannot load module 'pdo_mysql' because required module 'pdo' is not loaded in Unknown on line 0 |
| 20:23.19 | Innocentus | I installed the php5-mysql package |
| 20:23.26 | Innocentus | so normally there should be also a pdo.so |
| 20:23.28 | Innocentus | but it is missing |
| 20:23.37 | Innocentus | also after reinstalling the php5-mysql package |
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| 20:24.25 | pipeline | Innocentus: I think you want php-db not php5-mysql |
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| 20:24.29 | epsilon | !paste |
| 20:24.29 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 20:26.03 | Innocentus | hmm |
| 20:26.05 | Innocentus | right |
| 20:27.13 | Innocentus | pipeline: the problem is that pdo_mysql.so is existing, but pdo.so is missing |
| 20:27.30 | Innocentus | installing the php-db package doesn't solve the problem because it doesn't replace the missing pdo.so |
| 20:28.08 | pipeline | Innocentus: did you delete pdo.so ? if so you need to set the --fix-missing option |
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| 20:28.12 | cousin_mario | hello |
| 20:28.19 | pipeline | Innocentus: not fix-missing |
| 20:28.20 | Innocentus | ok |
| 20:28.22 | Innocentus | that is cool |
| 20:28.36 | pipeline | Innocentus: there's an optino to replace files you deleted |
| 20:28.46 | pipeline | Innocentus: but the package system does not default to doing that, because it assumes you deleted files for a reason |
| 20:29.10 | Innocentus | apt-get install php5-mysql --fix-missing |
| 20:29.22 | Innocentus | I tried it after removing php5-mysql it |
| 20:29.30 | Innocentus | but |
| 20:29.37 | Innocentus | the pdo.so is still missing and the error stays |
| 20:29.46 | Innocentus | could the package be broken? |
| 20:30.03 | themill | pdo.so is part of the php5-common package |
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| 20:32.26 | penrod | greetings, is it better to use grub or persistent rules to assign scsi disks . I have a new system which has a scsi disk and a 3ware raid. |
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| 20:33.56 | marsfligth | Please, can you tell what exactly does this: ""rsync -azvhEAX --chmod=ugoa=rwx"". Thanks |
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| 20:34.51 | cousin_mario | bbl |
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| 20:35.33 | TimmyT | i've formated one of my disks with mkfs.vfat. is it possible to recover it's data? |
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| 20:35.55 | daemonkeeper | No |
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| 20:43.04 | Starfury^ | anyone able to help me install vmware tools on a wheezy install within a vmware server? |
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| 20:48.45 | jhutchins_lt | Starfury^: vmware tools comes with instructions. If they don't work, contact vmware support. |
| 20:49.11 | Starfury^ | its to do with linux-headers |
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| 20:49.17 | cousin_mario | hello, again |
| 20:50.59 | cousin_mario | I've been tinkering with hostapd, ath5k and virtual interfaces for the last two days, now the only remaining glitch is that one of the interfaces doesn't hold the address. Is there some mechanism (udev?) for having an IP being forced upon a particular NIC even after a manual change? |
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| 20:51.37 | innociv | Erm. When I reboot my server, instead of lighttpd being started I get the apache "It works!" page. if I try to apt-get remove apache2 it says it's not installed... |
| 20:51.57 | innociv | I do have an /etc/apache2 folder.. |
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| 20:52.55 | epsilon | then you uninstalled, but not used --purge option to wipe out all files |
| 20:53.17 | epsilon | if you don't have/need apache, then backup /etc/apache* and delete |
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| 20:53.48 | epsilon | and "it works!"... it's just a file in /var/www |
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| 20:58.38 | innociv | epsilon, why would "It works!" show up wihtout apache running? |
| 20:58.47 | innociv | Something is running on port 80 when I reboot my server, and it's not lighttpd |
| 20:58.58 | innociv | I have to /etc/init.d/apache2 stop |
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| 21:00.05 | hopper7 | what's the state-of-the-art cd/dvd burning program on UNIX. Is it growisofs/genisoimage or something else? |
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| 21:01.15 | epsilon | innociv: netstat -aptn | grep 80 |
| 21:01.24 | dawud | hopper7: from CLI, wodim |
| 21:01.32 | innociv | It'll say lighttpd now. I already stopped apache |
| 21:01.46 | epsilon | run as root and it should tell you the process using the port |
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| 21:03.34 | nikin | hi. Is there any plan to backport blktap2 back to xen on squeeze? Without that file storage is out of the question... wich is bad :( |
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| 21:05.49 | hopper7 | dawud: thanks |
| 21:06.19 | Innocentus | themill: ok, but php5-common is already installed |
| 21:06.58 | breardo | stupid question here, but on FreeBSD, when I'd throw in a sata drive into a hot system, a new device would be found in /dev; in Debian it seems that I do not get a new device automatically created in /dev -- is there a tool to re-poll the system for sata drives and add the approriate device? |
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| 21:07.15 | themill | Innocentus: try reinstalling that package if /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/pdo.so is missing |
| 21:07.21 | breardo | this box detects the new drive, but nothing new in /dev (and dmesg doesnt report a new device name either) |
| 21:07.48 | Dev0n | hey, on debian 6.0, why is my tcp_tw_recycle read only ? |
| 21:07.49 | Dev0n | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 1 03:03 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_recycle |
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| 21:08.45 | Innocentus | themill: you mean the php5-common package which has to be reinstalled? |
| 21:09.00 | themill | Innocentus: does that file exist? |
| 21:09.15 | Innocentus | pdo.so is missing, indeed |
| 21:09.19 | Innocentus | this is the problem |
| 21:09.28 | Innocentus | because of this everything else also fails |
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| 21:09.39 | themill | Innocentus: not just "pdo.so" but specifically /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/pdo.so |
| 21:10.06 | Innocentus | themill: the extensions-directory is /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs on mine |
| 21:10.13 | Innocentus | but this seems to be machine specific |
| 21:10.14 | Bushmills | breardo: udevadm could have something for you, maybe udevadm trigger |
| 21:10.15 | themill | what release of debian is this? |
| 21:10.25 | Innocentus | lenny (5) |
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| 21:10.50 | themill | Innocentus: yeah, that's the right extensions dir. I take it that pdo.so is not in there. |
| 21:11.16 | themill | Innocentus: so yes, reinstalling that package would be appropriate. But before you do, should we think about why it's missing? |
| 21:11.33 | Innocentus | themill: yes |
| 21:11.44 | themill | Innocentus: Did you monkey around with some other php package (dotdeb?) or a source install? accidentally delete some files? |
| 21:11.49 | breardo | thanks Bushmills .. I think I see the issue though, its plugging into a 3ware RAID under the SCSI subsystem.. .maybe that doesnt support hot plugging or something |
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| 21:12.08 | Innocentus | themill: yea, I used pecl to compile the pdo extensions manually |
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| 21:12.38 | Innocentus | themill: but then I went over to use the newly offered apt managed pdo php extension packages |
| 21:13.26 | Innocentus | themill: because otherwise I had to recompile pdo php extensions each time I updated apache2 (by apt) |
| 21:13.28 | themill | ahh.. so pecl remove may have deleted things it shouldn't have. That makes sense. |
| 21:13.31 | Innocentus | yes |
| 21:13.36 | Innocentus | I used pecl remove of course |
| 21:13.39 | Innocentus | yea, you found it out |
| 21:13.46 | Innocentus | so this is the error |
| 21:14.05 | themill | ok, just making sure we have an explanation... it's not a failing disk or something nasty. |
| 21:14.10 | Innocentus | so I just remove the php5-common package and install it again |
| 21:14.22 | themill | Innocentus: so yeah, or just "aptitude reinstall php5-common" should be enough. |
| 21:14.26 | themill | dpkg: tell Innocentus about debsums |
| 21:14.28 | Innocentus | yea |
| 21:14.30 | Innocentus | thank you |
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| 21:14.44 | themill | Innocentus: you might like to use debsums to see if there's anything else that wants fixing |
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| 21:15.05 | Innocentus | ok |
| 21:15.07 | Innocentus | perfect |
| 21:15.22 | Innocentus | yea |
| 21:15.29 | Innocentus | hurra |
| 21:15.32 | Innocentus | pdo.so is back again |
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| 21:17.58 | breardo | yeah that was it.. had to import the drive in the scsi controller first :/ |
| 21:18.02 | breardo | thanks anyways ;) |
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| 21:22.41 | tharkun | Gentlemen i need to list the available fonts on a machine. I think i need to use defoma but there is no list option? |
| 21:23.28 | Innocentus | themill: thank you, pdo and pdo mysql php extension is working again, hurra |
| 21:23.40 | themill | excellent! |
| 21:24.21 | Innocentus | thank you |
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| 21:35.17 | stew | tharkun: fc-list? |
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| 21:38.16 | Dev0n | how would I make a file that's not writable by root :/ ? |
| 21:38.21 | Dev0n | errr not make, fix |
| 21:39.17 | stew | Dev0n: what are the permissions of the file? is it chattr +i? |
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| 21:39.50 | Dev0n | stew, -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 1 03:28 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_recycle |
| 21:40.00 | Dev0n | not sure what you mean by chattr +i |
| 21:40.30 | Dev0n | I'm trying to set the value of that to 1 because I have over 3000 TIME_WAITs :( |
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| 21:41.40 | stew | Dev0n: oh, /proc aren't real files. I'm not sure why that would be 444 instead of 644 for you, nor do I know how to change it |
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| 21:41.53 | Dev0n | damn :( |
| 21:42.01 | stew | its 644 here |
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| 21:42.22 | Dev0n | it's 644, on another debian 6 for me too but on this openvz vps, it's somehow 444 =x |
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| 21:50.01 | Dev0n | is it bad to have TIME_WAITs over 3000 ? |
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| 21:50.32 | daemonkeeper | For a moderately loaded server: no |
| 21:50.55 | tharkun | stew: thanks |
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| 21:58.54 | kassah | is there a way to install groups of software after the installer has finished? |
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| 22:02.30 | Bushmills | kassah: tasksel |
| 22:02.40 | kassah | ooo.. thanks! |
| 22:05.12 | Bushmills | also, meta packages. they look like normal packages |
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| 22:06.26 | djustice | how can i tell diff to ignore lines starting with the '#' char? |
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| 22:07.14 | dserban | what's the debian installer channel called |
| 22:07.35 | daemonkeeper | #debian-boot |
| 22:07.39 | daemonkeeper | on OFTC |
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| 22:08.12 | Giggaflop | hey guys |
| 22:08.19 | streuner_ | well, its more a devel channel... |
| 22:08.37 | Giggaflop | anyone here familiar with apt-get update |
| 22:08.56 | Giggaflop | i need to manually update :D |
| 22:09.01 | dserban | daemonkeeper: thanks, now to figure out how to get weechat there :) |
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| 22:09.09 | Giggaflop | via a sneakernet |
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| 22:09.38 | dserban | streuner_: ahh... so ask about installation probs here? |
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| 22:09.41 | daemonkeeper | Sure |
| 22:09.44 | streuner_ | dserban: you dont listen, do you? |
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| 22:10.04 | streuner_ | dserban: yES |
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| 22:10.43 | dserban | streuner_: :/ missed your message |
| 22:10.47 | thelastninja | djustice : diff ............ | grep -v -e "^#" or something like that may help |
| 22:10.49 | nikin | can anyone help me with xen 4.0 blktap2 on squeeze. |
| 22:10.50 | nikin | ? |
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| 22:11.03 | djustice | thelastninja: aha! thanks! |
| 22:12.04 | daemonkeeper | !anyone |
| 22:12.04 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 22:13.23 | cousin_mario | I've been tinkering with hostapd, ath5k and virtual interfaces for the last two days, now the only remaining glitch is that one of the interfaces doesn't hold the address. Is there some mechanism (udev?) for having an IP being forced upon a particular NIC even after a manual change? |
| 22:14.15 | Giggaflop | i need to know how to manually update a apt-get database |
| 22:14.23 | thelastninja | quit |
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| 22:16.29 | nikin | daemonkeeper: i started with that hours ago... The point is that the problem itself is very complex, and i did put the main parts into the line. For longer things: debian dropped blktap2 from the xen dom0 because some license issues which were resolved about 4 months ago, and still they didnt put it back. blktap1 is also left out, this way using a file as storage for xen under debian is only possible using loopback devices which are very slow, |
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| 22:17.38 | daemonkeeper | I know, but what's your question then? |
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| 22:18.53 | nikin | daemonkeeper: how can i get tap support in my xen, is there any plan to put it back? what (besides of LVM) can i use for creating virtual machines for testing pourposes, which are frequently deleted. |
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| 22:19.28 | Strav | Hi. Anyone here familiar with autofs? |
| 22:21.00 | daemonkeeper | nikin: For Squeeze chances are bad due to Debian policies. However there is blktap2 in Xen 4.1 (in wheezy). |
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| 22:21.11 | daemonkeeper | That said, you can backport it, or wait for a backport |
| 22:21.27 | daemonkeeper | Besides I really suggest you to use LVM instead. Its just better(tm) |
| 22:21.51 | nikin | daemonkeeper: the problem is that putting debian xen 4.1 debian into google turns up a lot of problems :S |
| 22:22.21 | daemonkeeper | nikin: Well, basically because of Xen 4.1 not so much because of Debian. |
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| 22:23.13 | daemonkeeper | Xen is on a major transition from xm/xend to xl |
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| 22:24.56 | nikin | daemonkeeper: true. Still i am looking for something mature for production use. The only possible way i can think is to add an extra disk, with an extra VG for test guests. And just wipe it time to time, so that fragmentation is avoided |
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| 22:25.32 | daemonkeeper | nikin: There is virtually no fragmentation when using LVM, or at least not more than on the file system level. |
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| 22:26.36 | daemonkeeper | nikin: Besides you can still patch your Xen stuff and enable blktap in your Xen 4.0 |
| 22:26.41 | marsfligth | i have set updatedb in cron. every time it starts opens a terminal. ho can i run it minimized or hidden? |
| 22:26.42 | nikin | daemonkeeper: creating and deleting partitions will fragment LVM logically, or there is some kind of prevention mechanism? |
| 22:27.27 | daemonkeeper | nikin: It does, but its not as bad as you would imagine, LVM operates on pages anyway and uses some magic to avoid this. |
| 22:27.33 | nikin | daemonkeeper: yep i came across that patch-set, but would prefer a supported solution. Anyway maybe patching is the way to go. |
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| 22:31.02 | nikin | daemonkeeper: tnaks didnt know about that magic. LVM is still not exactly clear to me, as of inner workings. What are you using for xen? |
| 22:31.23 | daemonkeeper | LVM exclusively. Its /so/ much easier to manage volumes with it., |
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| 22:32.42 | nikin | daemonkeeper: and how do you move VM-s from one machine to the other? or you have centralised storage? |
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| 22:33.33 | gimpy1380 | I'm trying to install Squeeze but when I select "Install" in the installer it freezes with no error. What do? |
| 22:34.23 | daemonkeeper | nikin: For offline migration I just copy LVM images. For live migration I'm using xnbd, but some of my machines use iSCSI storage. |
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| 22:39.46 | jhutchins_lt | LVM is great - until it messes up. |
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| 22:41.00 | nikin | daemonkeeper: i was googling around with the info you gave and it looks like a fair solution. So i will stick with LVM then. I dont really get the xNBD thing yet, but i will read some more. Thanks for the help |
| 22:41.28 | Novicane | Hey guys, I was hoping someone might either know of a good tool or have a suggestion on how I can inspect a running process (apache2 in this case) to peak into its memory usage? im having an issue with a server over committing a lot of memory and memstat shows those procs using a ton... but i have no idea what they're using it on, strace isnt very helpful and i cant use valgrind to hook into these procs since they're already running it |
| 22:41.39 | daemonkeeper | nikin: Its very nifty in fact. Its a block device you can access through a network. |
| 22:42.06 | daemonkeeper | nikin: And by using some magic you can migrate your domU |
| 22:42.47 | daemonkeeper | nikin: Unfortunately (for you) I didn't care enough to make a xnbd backport to Squeeze yet. |
| 22:42.54 | nikin | daemonkeeper: i found this on the topic https://bitbucket.org/hirofuchi/xnbd/wiki/Home#!scenario-3-live-vm-disk-migration-with-xen |
| 22:42.59 | daemonkeeper | Yep |
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| 22:43.11 | gray-- | Novicane: not sure if i quite understand, is ps not showing memory usage? or you want to know what it's doing with it rather than simply how much it's using? |
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| 22:43.32 | tharkun | gentlemen i have this Gentium:style=Regular font on one machine that is killing all the reports printed from there. How can i find which package is responsable for it in order to nuke it? |
| 22:43.43 | Novicane | gray--: yes, I'd like to see what it's doing with the memory, some sort of heap inspection would be great |
| 22:43.46 | gray-- | (don't think i'll be able to answer, sounds above me, but i'd like to understand the question at least ;) |
| 22:43.50 | nikin | daemonkeeper: you are running sid? |
| 22:44.03 | daemonkeeper | nikin: On my servers? Certainly not. |
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| 22:45.34 | nikin | daemonkeeper: :) sounded strange :) The copy-on-write feature looks very handy |
| 22:46.22 | daemonkeeper | nikin: What I meant, if you look after xnbd in Debian, you will notice it is in Testing, but not in stable yet. I didn't care enough to make a public backport yet, that's what I was saying. |
| 22:47.18 | ludens | hello, if anyone could point me towards any resources on installing iceweasel 5 in squeeze, id be very thankful. instructions on mozilla.debian.net don't work for me (aptitude refuses to install xulrunner 5.0) |
| 22:49.26 | themill | ludens: the full output in a pastebin along with your sources.list and "apt-cache policy" would help. |
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| 22:49.30 | themill | ludens: /msg dpkg bat |
| 22:49.56 | ludens | themill: my aptitude is in swedish... :) |
| 22:50.04 | daemonkeeper | LC_ALL=C aptitude ... |
| 22:50.55 | gray-- | Novicane: a bit of googling says you'd like a core dump perhaps, get the contents of memory for your perusal |
| 22:51.08 | ludens | daemonkeeper: thx a lot! |
| 22:51.24 | gray-- | http://linux.die.net/man/5/core |
| 22:51.27 | gray-- | gdb? |
| 22:51.27 | Novicane | gray--: that sounds like a good avenue to start on |
| 22:51.38 | Novicane | gray--: i'll take a look, thanks |
| 22:51.53 | ymas | hello everyone, on a stock install of PHP 5.3 on Debian Squeeze, the following code is returning 0 results. http://codepad.viper-7.com/zy2Klc |
| 22:52.00 | gray-- | Novicane: hope it helps, would be interested to see if you find anything of interest |
| 22:52.04 | ymas | I'm just wandering if this is reproducible |
| 22:54.01 | daemonkeeper | ymas: I guess, your question is more one for ##php (or #php or whatever) |
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| 22:55.39 | ymas | daemonkeeper: no problem, thanks for your suggestion. |
| 22:56.47 | ludens | daemonkeeper: the suggested solution was to remove iceweasel 3.5 and keep iceweasel 5 uninstalled :) |
| 22:57.17 | daemonkeeper | ludens: Do you meant to address themill? |
| 22:57.44 | ludens | no i didnt |
| 22:57.47 | ludens | but i will |
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| 22:57.53 | Strav | autofs anyone? |
| 22:58.08 | derchris | i'm looking for guide to replicate/load-balance mysql on debian. found a guide from 2006, using heartbeat/ldirectord. anyone know of any other, maybe more recent guides to do this? |
| 22:58.10 | ludens | daemonkeeper: youre the one who said LC_ALL=C... |
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| 22:58.42 | daemonkeeper | ludens: I just told you how to get English output from aptitude to provide a understandable pastebin :) |
| 22:58.51 | ludens | oh how weird |
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| 22:59.01 | ludens | because this solution was not suggested to me before |
| 22:59.08 | ludens | i just got a E: broken packages |
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| 23:00.37 | Bushmills | Strav: Jan Christoph Nordholz |
| 23:00.55 | ludens | problem seems to be libcairo2. i dont understand why it wont install that for me. its supposed to be in the mozilla repo |
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| 23:02.28 | Strav | Bushmills: yea that'll be the guy. |
| 23:02.54 | Bushmills | the most anyone you can find |
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| 23:05.38 | Strav | Bushmills: if I'd post you some autofs configs, you'd be able to tell if they're right? It seems like a mess so far. I'm tailing syslog and first I got this message saying that there was a syntax error in nsswitch.conf (which I didn't touch). A launchpad bug said a line should be added to fix this, so I added it. Now I'm getting: lookup_init:136: lookup(yp): map auto.master: Local domain name not set. Can't I simply get my damn config |
| 23:05.39 | Strav | to work? Is autofs that neglected? |
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| 23:06.51 | tharkun | Gentlemen how do i get rid of the package ttf-freefont if cups depends on it. Without uninstalling cups |
| 23:06.54 | Bushmills | Strav: you didn't post me anything. i replied to your "anyone" question, by giving you the most anyone you could possibly find. |
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| 23:07.37 | Strav | Bushmills: yea I know that. But I'm just asking. (in the case anyone else reads... I won't send a mail to the package maintainer just yet) |
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| 23:07.53 | derchris | tharkun, dpkg -r ttf-freefont |
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| 23:08.06 | Bushmills | to tell whether they're right or now, why not simply try them? |
| 23:08.53 | Strav | Bushmills: of course I tried, but the thing is, I don't see much log output (even though I enabled autofs logging). |
| 23:09.04 | Bushmills | seems that getting errors from auto.master indicates that they aren't |
| 23:09.59 | Strav | Bushmills: auto.master is usually a two liner from the configs I've seen so far. I'll dig a little more. |
| 23:10.36 | Bushmills | besides, why do you ask me about autofs configs, only because i replied to your question of "anyone"? |
| 23:10.51 | themill | tharkun: "/msg dpkg equivs" but you get to keep both bits when you break it :) |
| 23:10.54 | Bushmills | i gave you an answer, now you're changing subject :) |
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| 23:11.43 | Bushmills | direct your questions to the channel, instead of to a single person, instead. |
| 23:11.44 | nikin | is hearing this a lot from his wife :) </offtopic> |
| 23:12.05 | tharkun | themill: thanks but now i have a ton of broken reports. Guess a bit of broken apps will not add much |
| 23:12.30 | themill | tharkun: "broken reports"? |
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| 23:13.09 | Strav | Bushmills: coz you cared to reply once so I guess you'd care to reply twice. |
| 23:13.14 | tharkun | yes, that package has some font that is breaking the layout of a lot of reports. |
| 23:13.35 | themill | tharkun: ahh... you're sending plain text to lpr and letting it format it in some way? |
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| 23:13.51 | ludens | themill, daemonkeeper: i got it working now, thx anyway! |
| 23:14.01 | themill | !congratulate ludens |
| 23:14.01 | dpkg | Woohoo ludens, you did it! |
| 23:14.07 | ludens | haha |
| 23:14.14 | ludens | dpkg: thanks man |
| 23:14.14 | dpkg | ludens: no worries |
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| 23:14.17 | tharkun | themill: I don't know the exact way it is beeing printed. I just get to fix the broken stuff |
| 23:15.33 | themill | tharkun: heh... it'd be easier to fix if you knew where the font was being applied. cups has to use *some* font to print the text, after all, so if you knew where it was getting that font, you'd be able to configure it to use some other font. |
| 23:15.59 | streuner_ | dpkg, what are you? |
| 23:15.59 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more info see <infobot>. |
| 23:16.01 | Bushmills | Strav: i might have considered to reply to your autofs question, if it wasn't of the kind of "if i send you my config, can you debug it for me". i would if i were a consultant you have hired. |
| 23:16.38 | ludens | kinda weird that aptitude didnt offer me any solutions until i ran it in english... :s |
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| 23:17.38 | Bushmills | actually, "some configs" (plural) |
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| 23:20.26 | Bushmills | probably would have to deduce how the problem manifests from those configs too |
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| 23:25.59 | Strav | Bushmills: when I'll solve this issue, I'd gladly give a hand to anyone having problems with those two liner configs. You might have seen this odd behavior in forums. Anyhow, the fact that you answered my question indicated that you might know a thing or two about autofs. Furthermore, I only asked if you were familiar enough with autofs config to help. A mere no or yes would have suffice. |
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| 23:27.08 | GeekShadow | hello |
| 23:27.30 | GeekShadow | i'm trying to install a powerpc of squeeze |
| 23:27.49 | GeekShadow | but no mirror works for packages |
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| 23:28.14 | daemonkeeper | Which mirror are you using? |
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| 23:28.33 | GeekShadow | ftp.fr.debian.org |
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| 23:29.35 | daemonkeeper | Looks fine to me, e.g. ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/Contents-powerpc.gz |
| 23:30.07 | GeekShadow | oh weird |
| 23:30.18 | Bushmills | Strav: "I only asked if you were familiar enough.." actually that not what you asked. you asked "can i send you my messy configs so you can tell me whether they're right", but neglected to tell how the problem shows, except giving you syntax errors and missing settings |
| 23:30.24 | GeekShadow | at the step where I do have to choose a mirror, can I check my network setup ? |
| 23:30.37 | GeekShadow | oh yep |
| 23:31.24 | GeekShadow | huh no ifconfig :( |
| 23:31.53 | daemonkeeper | You are installing? Consider finishing your installation right now, and debug later on the running system. |
| 23:32.02 | GeekShadow | ok |
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| 23:32.47 | GeekShadow | security.debian.org unreachable |
| 23:32.53 | GeekShadow | seems like a network issue |
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| 23:33.34 | stew | GeekShadow: that is 3 different machines located in 3 different places. which ip address are you having trouble with? |
| 23:35.15 | GeekShadow | stew, I guess it's the network setup on the machine which fail |
| 23:35.54 | streuner_ | just finish the install process, you are able to fix that later |
| 23:36.41 | hovel | GeekShadow: you need root privileges to use ifconfig |
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| 23:37.55 | Turl | hi all |
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| 23:39.01 | Turl | I was wondering, how much does it usually take from mozilla releasing an update (ex: firefox/thunderbird 5) and it hitting the debian repos/mozilla.debian.net? |
| 23:40.11 | daemonkeeper | If you are looking for Firefox 5, its already there. |
| 23:40.31 | craigevil | Turl, iceweasel 5 was in the repo the same day |
| 23:40.32 | daemonkeeper | In experimental though. |
| 23:42.51 | Turl | yep, I'm running it already |
| 23:43.11 | Turl | I really asked with icedove in mind |
| 23:43.24 | nsadmin | probably newer installers use ip rather than ifconfig/route |
| 23:43.43 | daemonkeeper | They do? |
| 23:44.02 | Turl | I noticed mozilla.debian.net had alpha/beta/etc packages for iceweasel, but not for icedove |
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| 23:46.29 | nsadmin | so security.debian.org works fine, and it's on a round robin... if it doesn't work the first time, just try agaiun |
| 23:46.39 | djustice | i need to use 'find' to show only real shared object files.. recursively. ideas? |
| 23:46.59 | daemonkeeper | "real" in contrast to links? |
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| 23:47.16 | nsadmin | how do you know they're real? shared? object? |
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| 23:47.21 | brainsoft | dmesg shows this after pushing an usb mp4 |
| 23:47.25 | brainsoft | [ 199.032017] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 |
| 23:47.26 | brainsoft | [ 204.144020] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe the USB cable is bad? |
| 23:47.30 | brainsoft | how can i solve this? |
| 23:47.33 | djustice | daemonkeeper: no symlnks, only files. |
| 23:47.37 | daemonkeeper | "-type f" should help you then |
| 23:47.44 | djustice | and yep, shared dynamic, not static |
| 23:47.48 | djustice | daemonkeeper: hm.. |
| 23:48.00 | nsadmin | brainsoft, there is a suggestion in what you just posted |
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| 23:48.16 | daemonkeeper | Excluding static libraries means to look for .so files (instead of .a) |
| 23:48.16 | streuner_ | for USB? :-) |
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| 23:49.18 | streuner_ | brainsoft:so it works usually? check out the connections then |
| 23:49.33 | djustice | ya.. but here sometimes .so are actually .a.. -.- anyways, thanks. i was lost for a minute. |
| 23:49.46 | nsadmin | brainsoft, so, did you read what you posted yet? |
| 23:50.19 | daemonkeeper | If you find a library ending in .so, but not being a _s_hared _o_bject, you should file a bug |
| 23:50.56 | Bushmills | djustice: why find? wouldn't ldconfig -p do? |
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| 23:51.08 | streuner_ | brainsoft: what kind of device is that, are you using a working hub? |
| 23:51.19 | GeekShadow | ok the config network missed DNS ip |
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| 23:51.34 | streuner_ | GeekShadow: makes sence |
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| 23:51.59 | brainsoft | streuner_: i solved doing sudo rmmod ehci_hcd. thx both anyways |
| 23:52.38 | streuner_ | brainsoft: the system should do that for you, but USB could be sometimes a nightmare |
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| 23:58.16 | GeekShadow | well... weird I can ping router, and the DNS in /etc/resolv.conf match my router IP |
| 23:58.23 | guiledazimba | someone can help me to configure a firewall? |
| 23:59.20 | streuner_ | Are you running a server? |
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| 23:59.44 | guiledazimba | i'm installing debian 6.01 |
