| 00:00.11 | streuner_ | that didnt answer the question |
| 00:00.40 | nsadmin | GeekShadow, does your router provide ens? |
| 00:00.44 | nsadmin | dns |
| 00:01.00 | guiledazimba | yes, i have 2 servers |
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| 00:01.41 | GeekShadow | yup |
| 00:02.01 | guiledazimba | has some interface in debian to configure a firewall?? |
| 00:02.44 | guiledazimba | some program |
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| 00:02.54 | streuner_ | prolly a GUI? :-) |
| 00:03.04 | guiledazimba | yes |
| 00:03.05 | streuner_ | which solves everything? |
| 00:03.16 | nsadmin | a firewall is a -separate- machine that does -nothing- except the routing and filtering function |
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| 00:04.44 | guiledazimba | i wanna see the sites that machines in the network access.. filter ports, limit bandwith, its what a firewall do? |
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| 00:05.09 | guiledazimba | sorry my english |
| 00:05.31 | nsadmin | a firewall is a router |
| 00:06.00 | streuner_ | nah, your language is ok, but if you think a firewall would solve any security issue, you are prolly wrong |
| 00:06.20 | guiledazimba | :/ |
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| 00:06.53 | nsadmin | assuming that's the case for a minute, why not say what you're trying to do specifically |
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| 00:07.11 | guiledazimba | my objectives are: tracker the navigation of machines in the network |
| 00:07.32 | guiledazimba | block some ports, like p2p, msn, and specifics sites |
| 00:07.49 | guiledazimba | a firewall do not do this? |
| 00:07.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | basically, you want to oppress your users *g* |
| 00:08.22 | GeekShadow | ok network work now |
| 00:08.31 | GeekShadow | I did add a missing in route |
| 00:08.37 | GeekShadow | *piece |
| 00:08.53 | nsadmin | well then the firewall router (which you probably have) is an edge device, that lives on the edge of your network and serves to connect the whole net to the outside |
| 00:09.07 | GeekShadow | so now I do I fix mirrors ? |
| 00:09.13 | nsadmin | and you'd do whatever from that |
| 00:09.22 | streuner_ | GeekShadow: interfaces |
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| 00:09.55 | streuner_ | GeekShadow: routing in Debian is usually an interfaces issue... |
| 00:10.49 | nsadmin | GeekShadow, I'd say run your own dns somewhere and point the installing machine to that |
| 00:10.50 | GeekShadow | streuner_, ok |
| 00:11.02 | nsadmin | even just temporarilly |
| 00:11.09 | GeekShadow | nsadmin, it's working now |
| 00:11.27 | GeekShadow | should I add the mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 00:11.53 | streuner_ | sure, nano /etc/apt/sources.list would help |
| 00:12.09 | guiledazimba | CENARIO ACTUAL: modem ==> switch==> computers DREAM CENARIO: modem ==> firewalll (packet tracer, bandwith limiter, block ports) ==> switch ==> computers |
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| 00:12.46 | GeekShadow | deb ftp.fr.debian.org squeeze main |
| 00:12.48 | GeekShadow | I guess? |
| 00:12.49 | nsadmin | GeekShadow, oh, ok |
| 00:12.59 | guiledazimba | i have a computer with 2 network cards and im installing debian rigth now |
| 00:13.09 | nsadmin | http:// |
| 00:14.01 | streuner_ | GeekShadow: it seems you have already security.debian.org in your sources.list, right? |
| 00:14.09 | nsadmin | deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main |
| 00:14.29 | streuner_ | GeekShadow: if so, just answer the question stew asked you... |
| 00:14.31 | GeekShadow | streuner_, right |
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| 00:15.13 | streuner_ | GeekShadow: ping -c1 security.debian.org |
| 00:15.18 | nsadmin | guiledazimba, you can see if ipmasq would work (it's old, and you'd have to build the pkg from source, might work) |
| 00:16.43 | guiledazimba | nsadmin: CENARIO ACTUAL: modem ==> switch==> computers DREAM CENARIO: modem ==> firewalll (packet tracer, bandwith limiter, block ports) ==> switch ==> computers <=== ipmasq to this cenario? |
| 00:17.34 | nevyn | guiledazimba: ipmasq does something else |
| 00:18.00 | streuner_ | dpkg, ipmasq |
| 00:18.00 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ . The ipmasq package was removed from Debian post-Lenny to resolve bug #538384. |
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| 00:18.18 | nevyn | guiledazimba: you want a combination of iptables or some frontend thing for iptables ntop etc |
| 00:18.18 | nsadmin | ipmasq is a set of scripts that could operate in that context. what it does is look at your existing interfaces and their ip address and netmasks and -calculates- a firewall |
| 00:18.35 | nsadmin | it doesn't have a front end that I know of |
| 00:18.47 | nevyn | it is a frontend |
| 00:18.50 | nevyn | to iptables |
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| 00:18.52 | nsadmin | you'd have to come to understand it |
| 00:19.02 | nsadmin | well yes that's true |
| 00:19.17 | nsadmin | but prev appli3s still: |
| 00:19.21 | nsadmin | you'd have to come to understand it |
| 00:19.27 | streuner_ | what he wants is a GUI ... :-P |
| 00:19.28 | nevyn | but it's not one that's focusd on security outcomes overly and it doesn't have functionality like bandwidth limiting |
| 00:19.32 | nevyn | afaik |
| 00:20.08 | nsadmin | true, and nothjng has been added to it in a few years since lenny bit it |
| 00:20.15 | streuner_ | ipmasq is an easy way to share an i-net connection to serveral machines, but not more IMO |
| 00:20.57 | nsadmin | it's also an abstract structure of a firewall |
| 00:21.03 | guiledazimba | later i can use other programs to do what i want? ike bandwidth limiting, rigth? |
| 00:21.05 | nevyn | guiledazimba: I suspect your modem is actually a router btw. |
| 00:21.16 | guiledazimba | yes |
| 00:21.36 | nevyn | guiledazimba: so adding a second layer of nat is bad news. |
| 00:21.43 | nsadmin | it's router season! |
| 00:22.26 | streuner_ | good router firmware should solve many things, but bandwidth limits? |
| 00:22.28 | streuner_ | no |
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| 00:22.31 | nevyn | no. |
| 00:23.00 | nevyn | streuner_: what I was alluding to was that to do this he probably needs to change his router into a bridge most probably |
| 00:23.33 | streuner_ | whats about openwrt? |
| 00:23.53 | guiledazimba | i can set the modem to bridge mode |
| 00:24.05 | nevyn | right. |
| 00:24.27 | nevyn | guiledazimba: do you have more than one public ip address? |
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| 00:24.33 | Bushmills | guiledazimba: is your dream scenario the one you consider the most secure setup, or is it the result some space/economics/complexity vs security tradeoff? |
| 00:25.27 | nevyn | space? |
| 00:25.32 | nevyn | oh waf |
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| 00:27.10 | guiledazimba | i consider the most secure setup... why? |
| 00:27.37 | Bushmills | so if your internet-facing machine gets compromised, your LAN is exposed? |
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| 00:28.28 | streuner_ | guiledazimba: most secure = lots of work, and lots of knowledge, IMO |
| 00:28.52 | nevyn | streuner_: it's always a tradeoff. |
| 00:29.19 | nevyn | guiledazimba: most secure off locked in a safe... it's not terribly useful tho. |
| 00:29.30 | streuner_ | nevyn: yeah |
| 00:30.40 | guiledazimba | nevyn: yeah.. |
| 00:30.49 | streuner_ | Fort Know has different security issues vs. some user |
| 00:31.09 | streuner_ | Knox* |
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| 00:32.12 | nevyn | right. |
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| 00:33.32 | nevyn | guiledazimba: so there are dedicated firewall/network gateway/vpm/blah things like ipcop which have a nice userinterface on the sort of functionality you want. |
| 00:35.52 | guiledazimba | with ipcop i have to set the modem/router to bridge mode? |
| 00:37.25 | nevyn | that would be the sensible thing to do regardless |
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| 00:38.41 | nevyn | guiledazimba: it's possible to have the router do ip allocation and dhcp. and a firewall but it's a lot more complicated than just replacing those functions onto something more capable. |
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| 00:40.39 | guiledazimba | with ipcop can i see the sites that network requisietes? |
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| 00:42.00 | nevyn | guiledazimba: so there's a squid module |
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| 00:42.40 | nevyn | guiledazimba: so all the components of ipcop are also availible in debian but ipcop has a simple web administration ui |
| 00:43.04 | nevyn | debian would require you to know how to configure squid, iptables, ntop etcx |
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| 00:45.35 | guiledazimba | nevyn: you alread used ipcop? |
| 00:45.49 | nevyn | I have in the past... |
| 00:46.02 | nevyn | the bit that's hard is the bandwidth limiting stuff |
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| 00:47.02 | guiledazimba | in ipcop can i install squid??? |
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| 00:48.14 | nevyn | squid is a web proxy server that can filter and log http requests |
| 00:48.59 | streuner_ | dpkg, ipcop |
| 00:48.59 | dpkg | IPCop is a Linux distribution providing a simple-to-manage stateful firewall using <Netfilter>. Originally a fork of <SmoothWall> by disillusioned developers. Not supported in #debian. http://www.ipcop.org/ #ipcop on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:49.33 | streuner_ | both should usually solve different issues... |
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| 00:50.18 | streuner_ | guiledazimba: as we try to tell you, there is no simple way to solve everything... |
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| 00:53.35 | streuner_ | guiledazimba: sure, but you should be able to use smoothwall and squid in Debian |
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| 00:55.11 | streuner_ | guiledazimba: what kind of nature have this servers? production servers? |
| 00:55.15 | nevyn | smoothwall is a distribution |
| 00:55.54 | guiledazimba | yes |
| 00:55.54 | streuner_ | nevyn: hm, i thought its some GUI (firewall)? |
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| 00:57.38 | nevyn | http://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls here's a list of gui's |
| 00:58.39 | streuner_ | hm, shorewall its what i meant |
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| 01:00.48 | GeekShadow | ok, seems like debian beat ubuntu on supporting my eMac :) |
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| 01:01.34 | nevyn | sigh webmin |
| 01:01.37 | guiledazimba | whats the GREEN interface in ipcop?? |
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| 01:02.21 | nevyn | guiledazimba: we'll need to move to #ipcop to continue this |
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| 01:03.52 | karlpinc | I prefer the approach ferm takes to the model shorewall uses. But it all depends on what you're doing. |
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| 01:05.05 | guiledazimba | nevyn,GeekShadow,streuner_: thanks for all informations!! and congratulations for yours knowledge |
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| 01:06.06 | guiledazimba | nsadmin: thanks |
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| 01:06.38 | Bushmills | with a suitable router, you could run openwrt or debwrt on it |
| 01:07.05 | streuner_ | well, dpkg has even no entry for it :-) |
| 01:07.32 | streuner_ | openwrt |
| 01:07.51 | streuner_ | is too lazy to install openwrt on his router |
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| 01:08.34 | GeekShadow | what is the best solution to startx automatically when debian boots ? |
| 01:09.02 | Bushmills | effort depends on router. with some, it's merely using the original firmware's firmware update function. |
| 01:09.18 | streuner_ | GeekShadow: none |
| 01:09.42 | streuner_ | GeekShadow: startx is just a command after you login... |
| 01:10.15 | GeekShadow | streuner_, I know but I may give this computer to other people ;) |
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| 01:10.58 | streuner_ | GeekShadow: maybe a DisplayManager is what you need then |
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| 01:11.14 | GeekShadow | streuner_, gnome is installed |
| 01:11.44 | streuner_ | well, so usually gdm is installed too |
| 01:11.57 | GeekShadow | ok |
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| 01:14.10 | crisyelit | what your talk on channel in women debian |
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| 01:14.47 | streuner_ | just /join there and see yourself |
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| 01:18.14 | k-man_ | is it possible to have safe-upgrades automatically applied as they become available? and if it is, is it advisable to do that? |
| 01:18.39 | streuner_ | for the second question, no. |
| 01:18.46 | k-man_ | ok |
| 01:18.47 | k-man_ | thanks |
| 01:19.57 | boudiccas | streuner_; i've just tried to join #debian-women and got shunted over to another channel as debian-women was no longer available |
| 01:20.16 | streuner_ | hm |
| 01:20.36 | k-man_ | maybe its on oftc rather than freenode? |
| 01:20.36 | boudiccas | streuner_; that channel being ##unavailable |
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| 01:22.19 | streuner_ | http://women.debian.org/faqs/ |
| 01:22.48 | boudiccas | streuner_; it is over on oftc, under #debian-women |
| 01:23.03 | streuner_ | "nce installed, connect to irc.debian.org and /join #debian-women." |
| 01:23.41 | streuner_ | irc.debian.org = OFTC |
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| 01:24.05 | GeekShadow | is there a iceweasel 4 or 5 for powerpc ? |
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| 01:27.13 | stew | GeekShadow: looks like amd64 and i386 only: http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/Release |
| 01:27.29 | stew | well, perhaps 4 is in experimental? |
| 01:27.39 | stew | judd: versions iceweasel --arch powerpc |
| 01:27.42 | judd | Package iceweasel on powerpc -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-6; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-7~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-7; sid: 3.5.19-2; wheezy: 3.5.19-2; experimental: 5.0-1 |
| 01:27.50 | stew | oh, 5.0 is |
| 01:29.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | can i change the calendar view in Iceowl to be 7 day view (or yesterday + 7 days)? |
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| 01:31.09 | GeekShadow | apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel ? |
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| 01:31.26 | stew | GeekShadow: /msg dpkg experimental |
| 01:32.30 | GeekShadow | I don't get it |
| 01:32.36 | ice799 | Hi |
| 01:33.18 | ice799 | I know there is a debian maintainers channel, but thought i'd ask here first... if I have a debian/config script for debconf, i'm confused about the arguments that get passed in and the manual isnt too clear about it. |
| 01:33.47 | ice799 | either 'configure' or 'reconfigure' can be passed in. presumably reconfigure gets passed in when you run dpkg-reconfigure, but when does configure get passed in? |
| 01:33.54 | ice799 | everytime the package is installed? |
| 01:33.58 | ice799 | or just the first time? |
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| 01:34.24 | ice799 | stew: ^^^ |
| 01:36.34 | k-man_ | so grub is giving me this message about installing onto /dev/sda /dev/sdb and /dev/md0 |
| 01:36.49 | k-man_ | which devices should i install it to? |
| 01:36.55 | k-man_ | oh, and /dev/dm-0 |
| 01:38.43 | somiaj | k-man_: depnds on your bios, but a reasonable suggestion is /dev/sda (the mbr of the disk your machine boots off of) -- if you have other bootloaders or want to boot off the secondary drive from the bios you can put grub elsewhere. |
| 01:38.56 | stew | ice799: off the top of my head, I don't know, I would be looking to 'man 7 debconf-devel' |
| 01:39.10 | k-man_ | thanks somiaj |
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| 01:41.21 | ice799 | stew: ok thanks, i also asked in debian-maintainers |
| 01:41.24 | ice799 | but that channel seems rather lifeless |
| 01:41.45 | stew | ice799: have you looked at that manpage? |
| 01:42.05 | ice799 | im lookin now |
| 01:42.56 | stew | ice799: looks pretty straightforward. it gets "configure 1.2.3-1" during preconfigure and postinst, and "reconfigure 1.2.3-1" from dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 01:44.24 | ice799 | stew: but if i upgrade an installed package |
| 01:44.34 | ice799 | do i get reconfigure or just configure? |
| 01:44.37 | ice799 | or nothing? |
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| 01:45.07 | Blueleaf | ? |
| 01:45.10 | stew | you maybe get configure newversion when preconfigure runs, and you get configure newversion when the postinst runs |
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| 01:45.25 | ice799 | i see there is a |
| 01:45.32 | ice799 | dpkg --compareversion |
| 01:45.32 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, ice799 |
| 01:45.35 | stew | ice799: my reading of it is that you only get reconfigure when they call dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:45.40 | Blueleaf | can anyone help me live disk debian? |
| 01:45.50 | ice799 | stew: right |
| 01:45.55 | ice799 | but you always get configure even on upgrade |
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| 01:46.02 | stew | yes |
| 01:46.14 | ice799 | mmmmehhh |
| 01:48.00 | k-man_ | how can i tell if crashplan is hitting the /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches limit? |
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| 01:50.07 | coruja | Blueleaf, maybe you want to visit #debian-live on oftc |
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| 01:59.06 | ice799 | stew: heh i see so when it is being installed for the first time |
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| 01:59.17 | ice799 | the previous version is empty |
| 01:59.29 | ice799 | thats how you can tell if its an install or upgrade |
| 01:59.31 | ice799 | heh. |
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| 02:19.36 | GeekShadow | how do I fix colors ? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/364419/temp/debian.png |
| 02:20.02 | GeekShadow | under debian/ppc on an eMac (CRT screen 1024x768-90) |
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| 02:22.03 | sheepa | hello, are there any good irc for linux (network) programming? |
| 02:22.27 | boudiccas | GeekShadow; fix colours where? |
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| 02:23.06 | berkough | sheepa I usually just hangout in the channels of my favorite distros... what language do you want to program in? |
| 02:23.10 | GeekShadow | I mean upgrade the color depth |
| 02:23.19 | sheepa | c++ |
| 02:23.23 | boudiccas | ah right |
| 02:23.36 | berkough | I'm sure there is a c++ channel :) |
| 02:24.09 | ZykoticK9 | sheepa, ##c++ |
| 02:25.05 | sheepa | its not so much language orientated as linux/debia but ill try |
| 02:27.24 | sheepa | im using raw ethernet sockets on a wireless nic. Im trying to use a different mac address as source, it appears as sent on wireshark at the local computer but only if i use my actual mac address it appears on remote computers wireshark. |
| 02:27.55 | sheepa | #c++ seems to be full or something, i reach #overflow |
| 02:28.45 | ZykoticK9 | sheepa, you need to register your nick with freenode i believe |
| 02:29.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | there is also ##linux and ##networking, i dont' know if either of those would be of help |
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| 02:32.26 | CyL | Hi, some time ago I was having some problems with my wl interface, and on that occasion I gave ndiswrapper a try, but I switched back to the previous driver. Now I must mannually load the module and start the interface before I can connect to the networks. How can I make this happen automatically again? I have a Broadcom BCM4312 |
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| 02:35.53 | dvs | CyL: I'd run grep 'blacklist wl' /etc/modprobe.d/* |
| 02:37.34 | djustice|FFF | lol. chakra<3. baii. |
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| 02:39.28 | CyL | dvs: the driver's are not black listed |
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| 02:58.44 | t3a | why does the debian chromium package install version 6? |
| 02:59.27 | nsadmin | apt-cache policy chromium |
| 02:59.36 | nsadmin | take a look at that |
| 02:59.41 | stew | t3a: because that was the latest version that was available at the time when squeeze was frozen in august |
| 02:59.50 | t3a | ah |
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| 03:01.13 | t3a | I can't seem to find any repositories with 12 and the uncompiled version is huge |
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| 03:01.55 | leo-unglaub | hi, i have a big problem here, i upgradet debian to squeeze with the kernel 2.6.32 but now vmware server don't work anymore |
| 03:02.18 | leo-unglaub | i know there are some patches out there, but none of them work |
| 03:02.19 | leo-unglaub | is there a way to downgrade my server back to lenny? |
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| 03:02.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | no |
| 03:02.55 | leo-unglaub | okay, ....so i have a big problem :( |
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| 03:05.33 | nsadmin | you could restore from the backup you made before you upgraded |
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| 03:05.57 | leo-unglaub | i have backups from all configs, all data |
| 03:06.02 | leo-unglaub | but no complete image |
| 03:06.22 | leo-unglaub | creating images from live servers is a hard think |
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| 03:08.03 | stew | i'm suprised that vmware can't work on 2.6.32, since that is the kenrel that many major distros (like debian/redhat/ubuntu/suse) collectively agreed upon for major releases |
| 03:08.34 | leo-unglaub | don't tell me... i am suprized as hell... |
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| 03:08.53 | leo-unglaub | vmware server 2 is only compat with kernels lower than 28 |
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| 03:10.11 | brainsoft | hi. google has bought plink. an app for android who tells you the author of a plot from a picture taken from the mobile. is there such kind of software to do so on linux over a jpg? |
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| 03:11.06 | nsadmin | since vmware is closed-source and commercial/payware, no part of it is actually a part of debian... having said that, you have at least two choices I can think of... one, install earlier debian, and two, install later vmware |
| 03:12.24 | nsadmin | for detailed questions about vmware, you could call the vmware rep or go to their website to find what your options are |
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| 03:12.53 | nsadmin | other than that, this is cut and dried |
| 03:14.23 | leo-unglaub | can someone please explain this to me? http://pastebin.com/YvMKGPrP |
| 03:14.38 | Turl | t3a: debian testing/unstable both have chromium 12 |
| 03:14.53 | brainsoft | product was PlinkArt, a visual recognition app for mobile that analyses pictures of well-known artworks and paintings and identifies them. is there a software for that on linux? |
| 03:15.53 | nsadmin | you said that already. try google |
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| 03:22.19 | blackshirt | leo-unglaub: i think you need install linux kernel headers |
| 03:22.55 | leo-unglaub | ii linux-headers-2.6.32-5-amd64 2.6.32-35 Header files for Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 03:22.56 | leo-unglaub | ii linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common 2.6.32-35 Common header files for Linux 2.6.32-5 |
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| 03:26.04 | blackshirt | leo-unglaub: are you sure your kernel-headers has been installed / |
| 03:26.06 | blackshirt | ? |
| 03:26.28 | leo-unglaub | yes, i also dit a apt-get instal --reinstall |
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| 03:30.16 | t3a | thanks turl |
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| 03:32.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | judd: versions kernel-handbook |
| 03:32.48 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'kernel-handbook' was found in i386. |
| 03:32.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm |
| 03:35.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | judd: versions debian-kernel-handbook |
| 03:35.11 | judd | Package debian-kernel-handbook on i386 -- sid: 1.0.10; wheezy: 1.0.10 |
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| 04:13.06 | sanmarcos | is there any guide from transfering a debian server to another server, over a network? |
| 04:13.17 | sanmarcos | basically, replicating the system |
| 04:14.44 | Turl | sanmarcos: are the servers the same hardware wise? |
| 04:14.57 | sanmarcos | VPS, so pretty much yeah |
| 04:15.03 | sanmarcos | one is debian 5, the other debian 6 |
| 04:15.20 | Turl | I suppose you can boot both on live cds and then just clone the disks over the network |
| 04:15.21 | sanmarcos | I just want to get the package list, install it on the other server, and i'll move the files over, migrate the configurations |
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| 04:16.06 | Turl | dpkg --get-selections can give you a package list if that's what you need |
| 04:16.06 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, Turl |
| 04:16.23 | Turl | oh, there's a bot :p |
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| 04:17.04 | sanmarcos | its pretty short, 444 packages |
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| 04:17.57 | Turl | my desktop system has 1447 as a comparison |
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| 04:29.14 | pishi_naznazi136 | I'd copied a file into my cool disk, I want to know the date of copying, how can i find it? |
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| 04:31.53 | pishi_naznazi136 | just asked a question |
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| 04:34.12 | sanmarcos | pishi_naznazi136: ls -l |
| 04:34.24 | sanmarcos | or get the properties/information in your visual file manager |
| 04:34.33 | sanmarcos | see "Modifed Date" or created date |
| 04:35.57 | pishi_naznazi136 | sanmarcos: non of them say the date of making copy of that file from computer into my cool disk, |
| 04:36.12 | sanmarcos | there is no concept of "date of copying" in computer file systems |
| 04:36.20 | sanmarcos | at least in the most widely used |
| 04:36.27 | sanmarcos | there is the date created and date modified of a file |
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| 05:01.46 | ManateeLazyCat | I use aptdaemon write a "Update Manager", i got error "dbus.exception.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1", this error just occur with 64-bit system, 32-bit is fine. Any help or tips? Thanks! :) |
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| 05:23.45 | dudz_ | something that is aware of daylight savings perhaps |
| 05:23.57 | dudz_ | i don't want to change my systems timezone, just display different times |
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| 06:07.37 | agrundner | I just did a server upgrade which resulted in a new kernel. Got an error after it tried to update GRUB. Checked aptitude - shows GRUB is not installed. Should I go with grub2 to fix? |
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| 06:23.22 | ManateeLazyCat | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=603662 fix my problem. |
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| 06:33.35 | pianist | Greetings to all! |
| 06:34.08 | pianist | I want to ask you have ever installed Redmine! Debian Squeeze! |
| 06:34.30 | massmc | hello. I just installed squeeze, my external drive is XFS, It gives me a bad block error and wont see the drive even after install xfsprogs.. Am I doing it right? |
| 06:34.42 | pianist | and have managed to configure this and that as stated in the howto Redmine |
| 06:35.03 | tonsofpcs | massmc: based upon my experiences with XFS, any attempted use of such is 'doing it wrong' |
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| 06:35.25 | fanne | hey guys, after doing an apt-get upgrade yesterday i'm stuck with following error when doing an apt-get : symbol lookup error /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2ideE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 |
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| 06:35.56 | pianist | I have a Debian web server but I need to install Redmine Squeeze! and you can not any of you in this channel has been configured Redmine on Debian or impossible? I take 1 years unsuccessfully trying to configure |
| 06:37.25 | centHOGG | !redmine |
| 06:38.50 | pianist | centHOGG: |
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| 06:39.44 | pianist | Do you configure Redmine know? |
| 06:40.32 | deeLer | what's Redmine ? |
| 06:40.51 | nevyn | like trac |
| 06:41.01 | pianist | http://www.redmine.org |
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| 06:41.20 | deeLer | k |
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| 06:42.23 | swilson06 | is there a command to modify the sources.list when new versions come out? |
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| 06:43.04 | pianist | I've given up on Redmine, the forum of the website is crap, answer the questions for programmers not for novices |
| 06:43.10 | swilson06 | i don't want to just point it at 'stable' however when new versions come out, i have to check the repo or run 'update' watch something fail and revert |
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| 06:43.58 | swilson06 | ... i'm wondering if there's some way of saying 'the new version is called this, go check my repos, see if it's there and update sources.list if so'? |
| 06:44.30 | pianist | IRC Redmine most have no voice to speak and say what happens, the pages of blogspot about certain details of Redmine not resolved, it took 1 year and I could not install Redmine on Debian Lenny or the or the Squeeze |
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| 06:46.11 | pianist | please! community some of you have managed to install Redmine your answer is very useful to give up once and for all this |
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| 06:46.20 | and | hellos |
| 06:46.50 | and | i just got wireless working and google.com pings back but ONLY debian.org comes up on firefox...any ideas?? |
| 06:47.21 | and | google.com says Server not foud |
| 06:47.24 | ajikeshi_ | and, dnslookup works for other url? |
| 06:47.24 | and | found* |
| 06:47.30 | and | let me try |
| 06:47.53 | and | dont have dnsloookup installed |
| 06:47.55 | fanne | anyone an idea what I can best do to try and solve this problem? |
| 06:47.57 | ajikeshi_ | dig |
| 06:48.04 | ajikeshi_ | or dig6 for ipv6 |
| 06:48.10 | pianist | :O} |
| 06:48.25 | and | ok ill try dig ajikeshi_ |
| 06:48.39 | pianist | good if no one answers me means that nobody has installed thanks anyway for your attention |
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| 06:48.51 | and | yes dig yahoo.com returns -properly ajikeshi_ |
| 06:49.00 | ajikeshi_ | and, good |
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| 06:49.06 | and | so now? |
| 06:49.08 | ajikeshi_ | you can ping yahoo.com? |
| 06:49.21 | and | yahoo.com says sever not found in Iceweasel |
| 06:49.48 | and | yes i can ping it and it returns the ping |
| 06:49.55 | ajikeshi_ | do you use a proxy? |
| 06:50.03 | centHOGG | try another browser |
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| 06:50.14 | ajikeshi_ | centHOGG, good idea :D |
| 06:50.15 | and | no porxy |
| 06:50.19 | and | proxy* |
| 06:50.27 | ajikeshi_ | ya... try w3m or lynx for a start |
| 06:50.29 | centHOGG | epiphany |
| 06:50.34 | and | i tried galeon |
| 06:50.36 | ajikeshi_ | or that one :D |
| 06:50.40 | and | epiphany* |
| 06:50.45 | and | ill try lynx |
| 06:51.02 | and | cant |
| 06:51.05 | and | not installed |
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| 06:51.14 | ajikeshi_ | install it then :D |
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| 06:51.26 | and | oh i think aptitude will work just not browser |
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| 06:51.57 | ajikeshi_ | and, alternatively: netcat $URL 80 |
| 06:52.01 | ajikeshi_ | and send a HELO |
| 06:52.03 | and | ajikeshi_ |
| 06:52.08 | and | aptitude works |
| 06:52.12 | and | ping works |
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| 06:52.15 | and | dig works |
| 06:52.16 | and | all work |
| 06:52.28 | and | just not iceweasel or epiphany |
| 06:52.35 | and | ONLY debian.org loads |
| 06:52.40 | and | no proxy.... |
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| 06:52.41 | ajikeshi_ | and,did you set a proxy in gnome? |
| 06:52.49 | ajikeshi_ | like globally |
| 06:52.54 | and | no i didint but i will double check |
| 06:53.19 | and | nope it is set to direct internet connection |
| 06:53.41 | and | puzzler huh? |
| 06:53.51 | and | i tried to google this with no luck |
| 06:53.52 | pianist | .l. |
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| 06:54.10 | centHOGG | weird |
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| 06:54.14 | and | yeah |
| 06:54.24 | ajikeshi_ | and, try netcat www.yahoo.com |
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| 06:54.27 | and | ill try restarting but doubt that will no anything |
| 06:54.35 | ajikeshi_ | and then type HELO |
| 06:54.37 | and | i will netcat www.yahoo.com now |
| 06:54.41 | and | and hit HELO |
| 06:54.45 | ajikeshi_ | with 80 at the end |
| 06:54.58 | and | HELO 80 |
| 06:55.01 | and | ? |
| 06:55.02 | ajikeshi_ | err no |
| 06:55.08 | and | yahoo.,com 80 |
| 06:55.10 | ajikeshi_ | netcat $URL 80 |
| 06:55.13 | and | ok |
| 06:55.15 | and | roger |
| 06:55.15 | ajikeshi_ | then: HELO |
| 06:55.20 | and | rgr |
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| 06:55.55 | Ikarus | anyone know a good script/program/foo to detect if an network connection is actually up (or atleast the next or the hop after that is responding), I could cook up something myself, but if there is a good default option for that |
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| 06:56.01 | Ikarus | has to do with failing over to backup routes |
| 06:56.48 | and | ajikeshi_ |
| 06:56.52 | and | netcat hangs |
| 06:56.55 | ajikeshi_ | mhh |
| 06:56.56 | and | no response |
| 06:56.59 | ajikeshi_ | argh |
| 06:57.02 | ajikeshi_ | helo was pop |
| 06:57.04 | ajikeshi_ | sry |
| 06:57.08 | and | no no |
| 06:57.10 | and | it hangs |
| 06:57.14 | ajikeshi_ | ya |
| 06:57.19 | ajikeshi_ | but the connection didnt get refused |
| 06:57.28 | and | after i enter netcat www.yahoo.com 80 |
| 06:57.36 | and | no refuse |
| 06:57.39 | and | just hangs |
| 06:57.44 | deeLer | Ikarus: ping a dns server |
| 06:57.46 | and | but ping worls |
| 06:58.02 | ajikeshi_ | mhhh |
| 06:58.10 | ajikeshi_ | maybe traffic is being filtered |
| 06:58.14 | and | ajikeshi_ any other idea or where i can ask they might know |
| 06:58.19 | and | hm |
| 06:58.39 | ajikeshi_ | did you setup a firewall on your debian machine? |
| 06:58.40 | Ikarus | deeLer: not quite my plan, but close to it, but as said, I'd like to avoid reinventing the wheel |
| 06:58.45 | and | i am accessing this router through a nintendo 3ds and google.com comes up |
| 06:58.48 | ajikeshi_ | and/or do you have a hardware firewall? |
| 06:58.56 | and | no firewall ajikeshi_ |
| 06:59.01 | and | nope |
| 06:59.05 | and | so strange |
| 06:59.06 | ajikeshi_ | router==firewall in most cases |
| 06:59.23 | ajikeshi_ | other computers behave normally? |
| 06:59.26 | and | yess but traffic iss let through |
| 06:59.35 | and | exactly |
| 06:59.40 | ajikeshi_ | hum |
| 06:59.43 | ajikeshi_ | really weird :D |
| 06:59.47 | and | ill try to have router settings checkec |
| 07:00.10 | ajikeshi_ | your default route is set properly? |
| 07:00.21 | ajikeshi_ | mhh.. no.. must be otherwise you couldnt ping |
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| 07:00.45 | and | yeah |
| 07:00.52 | and | this is debian specific |
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| 07:00.55 | and | ping work |
| 07:00.59 | and | apt works |
| 07:01.00 | ajikeshi_ | and google.com works properly? |
| 07:01.06 | and | no |
| 07:01.07 | ajikeshi_ | like you can search for something? |
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| 07:01.19 | and | ONLY debian.org is displayed in the browsers |
| 07:01.23 | ajikeshi_ | oh |
| 07:01.27 | and | all other sites ping buit dont render |
| 07:01.42 | ajikeshi_ | did you activate your copy of debian? ;) |
| 07:01.48 | and | and on the other computer system (not debian) it works okay |
| 07:01.51 | and | Lol |
| 07:01.54 | ajikeshi_ | mhh |
| 07:01.57 | ajikeshi_ | tried lynx yet? |
| 07:01.58 | and | :( |
| 07:02.02 | and | oh will try now |
| 07:02.04 | kenifanying | hi all, I can set automatic proxy configuration in GNOME, but how can i do it in comand line? |
| 07:02.27 | ajikeshi_ | and, ah... i got an idea what might be the problem... :D |
| 07:02.33 | and | ajikeshi_ lynx fails |
| 07:02.38 | and | ok, idea? |
| 07:02.39 | ajikeshi_ | does your router support ipv6? |
| 07:02.50 | and | not sure i cant adminiter it |
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| 07:02.52 | ajikeshi_ | and does the nic get a ipv6 adress? |
| 07:03.00 | and | ill checkl |
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| 07:03.08 | ajikeshi_ | if yes... the system might get just AAAA records |
| 07:03.18 | and | yes |
| 07:03.25 | and | it look like it does aji |
| 07:03.32 | and | in ifconfig |
| 07:03.34 | ajikeshi_ | try disabling ipv6 in your networkmanager |
| 07:03.38 | jaggz | is there an official doc on installing dbndns [specifically]? |
| 07:03.42 | and | inet6 is displayed |
| 07:03.56 | and | where can i disable ip6? |
| 07:04.24 | ajikeshi_ | you use the nmapplet to conect? |
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| 07:05.01 | and | no but i should.. |
| 07:05.09 | and | in ipv6 setting it says Ignore |
| 07:05.12 | ajikeshi_ | how did you connect your wifi then? |
| 07:05.14 | ajikeshi_ | oh |
| 07:05.25 | and | the gnome dialog |
| 07:05.25 | ajikeshi_ | then you ll just have a fe80 address.. that wont change anything |
| 07:05.26 | and | wireless-ttols |
| 07:06.19 | and | there is no nmapplet package? |
| 07:06.25 | and | in squeeze? |
| 07:06.26 | ajikeshi_ | nm-applet |
| 07:06.29 | and | still |
| 07:06.34 | ajikeshi_ | the thinky in your "systray" in gnome |
| 07:06.34 | and | 0 results on aptitude |
| 07:06.57 | and | aj |
| 07:07.00 | and | ah yes |
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| 07:07.08 | and | aji i am using nm-applet |
| 07:07.12 | ajikeshi_ | mhh |
| 07:07.17 | and | where can i disable ip6? |
| 07:07.34 | ajikeshi_ | if its set to ignore.. you should be fine |
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| 07:07.52 | and | yeah maybe i should try automatic? |
| 07:08.01 | and | cause its on ignore methos |
| 07:08.04 | and | method |
| 07:08.05 | ajikeshi_ | worth a try but shouldnt change a thing |
| 07:08.15 | and | anyother idea? |
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| 07:08.46 | ajikeshi_ | sry... ran out of em |
| 07:08.50 | ajikeshi_ | ah |
| 07:08.51 | and | ok :( |
| 07:08.54 | and | hm? |
| 07:08.58 | ajikeshi_ | lynx didnt work too? |
| 07:09.04 | and | correct |
| 07:09.09 | and | ping does though |
| 07:09.13 | ajikeshi_ | mhhhh |
| 07:09.14 | and | netcat doesnt |
| 07:09.33 | and | debian related for sure i think |
| 07:09.38 | ajikeshi_ | probably your router blocks the traffic |
| 07:09.40 | and | or somethin heh? |
| 07:09.43 | and | okay |
| 07:09.45 | ajikeshi_ | maybe it got banned or something |
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| 07:09.52 | and | ill ask admin to make sure all is let through |
| 07:09.57 | ajikeshi_ | oh |
| 07:10.00 | ajikeshi_ | its not your router? |
| 07:10.24 | and | nah |
| 07:10.31 | and | i live in a group home |
| 07:10.35 | ajikeshi_ | ah okay |
| 07:10.39 | and | heh |
| 07:10.55 | ajikeshi_ | well thats the last thing i can think of.. that something in the router configuration has gone wrong... |
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| 07:11.09 | ajikeshi_ | or something in your debian is utterly broken |
| 07:11.16 | and | thank aji |
| 07:11.20 | and | tahnks |
| 07:11.24 | ajikeshi_ | might sound stupid... did you try rebooting? |
| 07:11.29 | and | yep |
| 07:11.32 | and | i di hah |
| 07:11.36 | and | thanks aji |
| 07:11.39 | and | take care bud |
| 07:11.41 | ajikeshi_ | nm :) |
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| 07:11.46 | ajikeshi_ | and good luck :) |
| 07:11.47 | jaggz | is it plugged in? |
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| 07:12.15 | ajikeshi_ | jaggz, ya... everything seems to work except http |
| 07:12.20 | ajikeshi_ | OH wait |
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| 07:12.42 | ajikeshi_ | dang :D |
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| 07:19.20 | tuxcrafter | http://paste.debian.net/121576/ < does somebody know anything about these ext4-fs error count messages |
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| 07:30.45 | izua | hey. |
| 07:30.51 | izua | how do i get a pdf viewer zoom above 400$? |
| 07:30.53 | boudiccas | what? |
| 07:30.56 | izua | s/\$\$/ |
| 07:31.01 | izua | erm |
| 07:31.04 | izua | s/\$\%/ |
| 07:31.29 | izua | i've tried several pdf viewers and they all seem to be software limited to 400% |
| 07:31.33 | izua | for one reason or another. |
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| 07:48.13 | adminewb | I seem to run into trouble easily with chrome v12.0.742.112/90304 on squeeze |
| 07:48.59 | cusco | that is not a debian package |
| 07:49.07 | adminewb | indeed |
| 07:49.13 | adminewb | you recommend another channel? |
| 07:49.15 | cusco | not supported |
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| 07:49.17 | cusco | yes |
| 07:49.23 | cusco | !chrommium-browser |
| 07:49.25 | cusco | err |
| 07:49.30 | cusco | !chromium-browser |
| 07:49.30 | dpkg | Chromium is an open source web browser produced by Google, based on WebKit. Google Chrome is based on Chromium. Packaged as chromium-browser in squeeze, chromium in sid. http://wiki.debian.org/Chromium http://www.chromium.org/Home #chromium-support on irc.freenode.net. For the game formerly known as Chromium, ask me about <chromium-bsu>. |
| 07:49.38 | cusco | #chromium-support |
| 07:49.55 | adminewb | thanks |
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| 07:50.50 | jabbathehutt | how many times can i write to a hdd sector before the hdd fails? |
| 07:50.53 | jabbathehutt | a million? |
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| 07:56.50 | adminewb | jabbathehutt you can query the SMART interface on the disk using gnome's disk utility, it will give you some pattern of degradation if you want to run the stress test yourself |
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| 07:59.04 | X0x | hi run-parts --test /etc/cron.hourly/ doesn't show my script but it's on the /etc/cron.daily/ and well executed when I start it manally, I restart cron but nothing change am I missed something ? thanks |
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| 08:15.58 | lefoobar | hi, i would like to compile vmware-tools with a recent kernel, can anyone recommend a kernel version to me, which is known to work for that? |
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| 08:22.38 | nvictor | hi all |
| 08:22.59 | nvictor | i wanted to install ubuntu font but i can't find good guides on that |
| 08:23.05 | nvictor | anyone done that before? |
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| 08:23.41 | kornerr | hi |
| 08:24.07 | kornerr | i was installing Squeeze, and left it running after selecting necessary packages |
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| 08:24.20 | kornerr | upon return, i could not proceed with the following install steps |
| 08:24.28 | kornerr | is there a way to proceed with grub install? |
| 08:24.40 | kornerr | without installing all the things that have already been installed? |
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| 08:25.29 | boudiccas | nvictor; is that installing onto debian or onto ubuntu? |
| 08:25.36 | nvictor | debian |
| 08:25.42 | boudiccas | ah right |
| 08:25.49 | nvictor | synaptic does not have an entry for it |
| 08:26.04 | nvictor | and i also can't find how the font is called |
| 08:26.28 | boudiccas | how is this font packaged? deb or ttf? |
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| 08:27.08 | nvictor | boudiccas: i don't have it |
| 08:27.19 | nvictor | i think it's called ubuntu font family |
| 08:27.40 | boudiccas | nvictor; well how can you install it if you dont have it? |
| 08:28.07 | nkuttler | kornerr: if you boot the expert installer you should be able to just install grub |
| 08:28.27 | kornerr | it says 'must install basic system', and that one fails |
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| 08:29.10 | nvictor | boudiccas: i can't find it |
| 08:29.10 | boudiccas | kornerr; i reckon a reinstall is necessary, just to be certain that you've ticked all the boxes |
| 08:29.15 | nvictor | i mean with apt |
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| 08:29.37 | kornerr | not nice |
| 08:30.21 | nkuttler | kornerr: then spawn a shell and use grub manually |
| 08:30.43 | kornerr | i want it to detect my present OS |
| 08:30.54 | boudiccas | nvictor; i reckon that you first should find the font package in the ubuntu install media and then try to install it from the command line onto debian |
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| 08:32.06 | nvictor | boudiccas: how do i install a font on debian? |
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| 08:32.16 | nvictor | boudiccas: i have them now, they are ttfs |
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| 08:33.53 | nvictor | boudiccas: nvm, found a guide |
| 08:33.55 | boudiccas | nvictor; i dont know how its done in debian, not had the need to install extra fonts yet. is this in kde or gnome or what? |
| 08:34.16 | nvictor | gnome |
| 08:34.23 | boudiccas | ah right |
| 08:34.40 | nvictor | there is a .fonts folder in your home i think it's just a matter of copying to it |
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| 08:35.42 | mamalujo | hi! using squeeze, both when using notify-send manually and w irssi notify.pl script , the thing spontaneously stops functioning, and giving a "GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed" error. Is there at least something I could conveniently restart (w/o logging out of the X session) to correct this? |
| 08:36.10 | kornerr | hm |
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| 08:36.25 | nvictor | nope i had to create the .fonts dir :) |
| 08:36.27 | nvictor | thanks all |
| 08:36.28 | kornerr | in Rescue mode in VM it looks like it worked with GRUB only after minimal setup |
| 08:36.29 | nvictor | see you |
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| 09:00.20 | couannette | hi, is there a maintainer for the oss4 package around ? |
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| 09:01.36 | fanne | when I put APT::Default-Release "stable"; in apt.conf do I have to change my sources.list to have deb http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ stable main instead of deb http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ squeeze main ? or is it better to leave squeeze instead of stable? |
| 09:01.52 | couannette | how to configure permissions in /dev/oss/* with udev rule ? |
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| 09:02.48 | streuner_ | couannette: no, why? |
| 09:03.09 | couannette | streuner_: I've installed oss4 in debian wheezy |
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| 09:03.19 | streuner_ | and it doesnt work, sure |
| 09:03.20 | couannette | and device permissions Ă 666 root:root |
| 09:03.35 | streuner_ | judd, versions oss4-dkms |
| 09:03.37 | judd | Package oss4-dkms on i386 -- squeeze: 4.2-build2003-1; sid: 4.2-build2004-1; wheezy: 4.2-build2004-1 |
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| 09:03.46 | Caelum | I can't run aptitude safe-upgrade, this is what I get: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/117959 |
| 09:04.10 | couannette | oss4 is working, just I want to know how to setup permissions on /dev/oss/* |
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| 09:04.36 | streuner_ | but why someone want change permissions /dev at all? |
| 09:04.51 | couannette | to restrict access to audio devices to the audio group |
| 09:05.02 | streuner_ | couannette: anyway, /msg dpkg permissions |
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| 09:06.34 | couannette | streuner_: thank you, i know that :) |
| 09:06.50 | Caelum | and it won't let me upgrade apt without removing a whole bunch of crap |
| 09:07.24 | couannette | for alsa device there is an udev rule like this : 91-permissions.rules:SUBSYSTEM=="sound", GROUP="audio", |
| 09:07.42 | Caelum | maybe I just won't upgrade :/ |
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| 09:08.46 | streuner_ | couannette: have fun reading <udev rules> then ;-) |
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| 09:09.05 | streuner_ | dpkg, udev rules |
| 09:09.05 | dpkg | file:///usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html (removed at udev v151), or read it online at http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
| 09:09.10 | couannette | streuner_: thank you indeed |
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| 09:09.48 | jabbathehutt | any1 need helpo? |
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| 09:14.37 | couannette | streuner_: for the sake of completness, with alsa I've sound devices group=audio perm=660, that's fine, with oss4 I've group=root perm=666, that's BAD :) |
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| 09:14.59 | varis | hi - I'm building a .deb from a python package |
| 09:15.17 | X0x | join /svn |
| 09:15.50 | varis | I'm using the debhelper way and have a minimal debian/rules - what else do I need to set up so my scripts are found during package building? |
| 09:16.07 | varis | dh_install says they're not in debian/tmp |
| 09:16.10 | streuner_ | couannette: well, iam using the package of opensound, there is only a dir in /dev |
| 09:16.54 | couannette | streuner_: mine is like this : |
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| 09:17.05 | streuner_ | couannette: amset:/dev# ls -l oss* , drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 220 8. Jun 08:51 oss_hdaudio0 |
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| 09:17.26 | couannette | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 249, 4 Jul 1 11:11 /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm0 |
| 09:17.30 | couannette | sorry |
| 09:17.40 | couannette | I've made chmod / chgrp myself ;))))) |
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| 09:18.01 | couannette | I want that the udev system make this when computer starts ;) |
| 09:18.31 | couannette | streuner_: devices are under /dev/oss/<driver>/* |
| 09:19.23 | streuner_ | couannette: amset:/dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0# ls -l *, crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 251, 3 8. Jun 08:51 mix0 |
| 09:20.00 | couannette | streuner_: yes ! you have the same problem ;) |
| 09:20.21 | streuner_ | couannette: nah, you got that wrong, i dont have a problem with OSS4 at all |
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| 09:21.09 | couannette | streuner_: I'm not saying that oss4 is not working, listen, I'm saying that I don't want users that does not belongs to the audio group to be able to open/read/write those devices ! |
| 09:21.35 | streuner_ | couannette: as long as they arent in audio group, they shouldnt... |
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| 09:22.01 | couannette | streuner_: ? |
| 09:22.32 | streuner_ | couannette: are they able? i think, its only root who are able to |
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| 09:23.26 | streuner_ | couannette: root is the owner, why could a user able to write in /dev at all? (crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 251, 4 8. Jun 08:51 pcm0) |
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| 09:25.14 | couannette | streuner_: correct perm is : crw-rw---- root audio |
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| 09:27.29 | jabbathehutt | what can i press to go into text mode in ubuntu |
| 09:27.32 | jabbathehutt | is there some key combination |
| 09:27.49 | streuner_ | jabbathehutt: please /j #ubuntu |
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| 09:28.11 | jabbathehutt | cant |
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| 09:28.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | jabbathehutt: then /j #ubuntu-ops and ask why not |
| 09:28.56 | jabbathehutt | i was banned |
| 09:28.59 | jabbathehutt | from ubuntu |
| 09:29.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | #ubuntu-ops is still the correct place to talk about your ban, and this is the wrong place for ubuntu questions. |
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| 09:41.06 | crocket | Debian is composed of 8 DVDs. |
| 09:41.09 | crocket | Do I need all of them? |
| 09:41.13 | slaeshjag | no |
| 09:41.36 | crocket | What do they contain? |
| 09:41.42 | slaeshjag | Unless you're going to be without a internet connection and still want access to the entire software repository |
| 09:42.13 | crocket | Which disc do I need? |
| 09:42.41 | slaeshjag | Depends on how much you want to install during installation etc. |
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| 09:43.06 | crocket | how about CD 1 only? |
| 09:43.13 | slaeshjag | CD1 should do unless you want some specific package that isn't part of the standard installation |
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| 09:43.21 | crocket | how about DVD1? |
| 09:43.53 | slaeshjag | I don't really use the full CD/DVDs, so I can't answer that, I'm afraid |
| 09:44.14 | slaeshjag | Whatever you don't have the disk for can be downloaded from the internet by the package manager |
| 09:44.20 | Guest39106 | crocket: NO |
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| 09:44.48 | michelem | hello folks |
| 09:44.50 | hydra | crocket: use the 185MB iso (small cd) and use Internet |
| 09:45.04 | michelem | I posted about a problem yesterday with some scripts in /etc/network/if-up.d not being run |
| 09:45.24 | michelem | for the archive, the solution is reported here: http://mailman.linuxchix.org/pipermail/techtalk/2006-April/021191.html |
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| 10:15.01 | p3rror | hello |
| 10:15.11 | p3rror | i have no sound in my browser |
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| 10:15.23 | p3rror | i can play an flash video |
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| 10:16.36 | pdelgallego | Hi guys. What is the -s command here doing in this IPTABLE rule ? I am new to iptables |
| 10:16.42 | pdelgallego | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.10 | pdelgallego | I read the man, but I didn't get it |
| 10:17.26 | boudiccas | pdelgallego; i cant answer your question because i'm not a guy, i'm female |
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| 10:18.15 | pdelgallego | boudiccas, :) |
| 10:18.42 | dreamer | anybode here having succes using the live-builder from sid? |
| 10:18.58 | pdelgallego | boudiccas, any suggestion? |
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| 10:19.25 | boudiccas | like i said, i cnat answer your question |
| 10:19.32 | boudiccas | *cant |
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| 10:20.00 | pdelgallego | :( |
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| 10:20.21 | Harry` | pdelgallego: -s limit this rules to the specified source (ip address or subnet) |
| 10:20.24 | sephii | I followed the guide here http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs to have autofs automount my usb hdd but the udev part doesn't create the links in /dev. any idea ? |
| 10:20.37 | Harry` | pdelgallego: See iptables --help |
| 10:20.44 | sephii | (I already restarted udev) |
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| 10:21.21 | pdelgallego | Harry, that source is the place that the resquest is made? I was reading the manual. but or I has make some mistake or I misunderstood the manual |
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| 10:22.14 | pdelgallego | -s Source specification. Address can be either a network name, a hostname, a network IP address (with /mask), or a plain IP address |
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| 10:23.51 | ragnar76_ | hi all |
| 10:24.11 | ragnar76_ | just a question, is there a special irc channel for debian ppc? |
| 10:24.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: ppc |
| 10:24.59 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
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| 10:25.42 | ragnar76_ | thx Kamping_Kaiser |
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| 10:26.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | np |
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| 10:26.57 | Harry` | pdelgallego: Yes, the host that made the request. |
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| 10:30.22 | pdelgallego | Harry`, so If I have a server in 50.xxx.xxx.62 that wants to connect to the first server the IP table rule in the first server should be something like iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -s 50.xxx.xx.62 --dport 27017 -j ACCEPT. Is that correct? |
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| 10:31.40 | pdelgallego | Harry`, Its my first time that I need to fix any iptable rule so I am kind of confuse with the rules that the sysadmin set up before. |
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| 10:34.57 | Harry` | pdelgallego: Yes, if you want to allow 50.xxx.xxx.62 to connect on port 27017 only. |
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| 10:52.32 | crocket | woohoo |
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| 10:56.23 | hopper7 | is it correct that there are no free drivers for the Broadcom bcm4313 chipset? |
| 10:57.03 | streuner_ | dpkg, listvals 4313 |
| 10:57.05 | dpkg | Factoid search of '4313' by value (6): brcm80211 ;; 4313 ;; bcm4313 ;; wl ;; bcm4727 ;; b43. |
| 10:57.15 | streuner_ | dpkg, bcm4313 |
| 10:57.16 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI ID 14e4:4727, incorrectly identified as BCM4727 by wlc_hybrid) is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chipset, not supported by the <b43> driver. For support on Debian systems, ask me about <brcm80211>, <wl>. |
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| 10:57.58 | hopper7 | dpkg brcm80211 |
| 10:57.58 | dpkg | brcm80211 (renamed to brcmsmac at Linux 2.6.39) is an open source mac80211 driver released by Broadcom, supporting the <BCM4313>, <BCM43224> and <BCM43225> PCIe 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. Included as a staging driver in Debian 2.6.32 kernel images for x86. Firmware is required (bcm43xx-0.fw, bcm43xx_hdr-0.fw), ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-brcm80211 package to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 |
| 10:57.58 | abrotman | hopper7: i think every broadcom wifi device requires a blob .. |
| 10:58.02 | abrotman | !msg the bot |
| 10:58.02 | dpkg | Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . If you're helping people, you can check that you have the right factoid before showing it to others. |
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| 10:58.12 | abrotman | even though streuner_ can't figure it out after how long ... |
| 10:58.14 | hopper7 | k |
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| 10:59.06 | streuner_ | <abrotman> !msg the bot, well :-) |
| 10:59.26 | abrotman | to show you ... |
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| 11:02.11 | hopper7 | how do I configure APT that the only non-free software it uses is the wlan driver I need? |
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| 11:02.23 | hopper7 | but does it update when there is one |
| 11:02.48 | pdelgallego | Harry`, thx for the help with the iptable rule. I got it working now. |
| 11:03.48 | Harry` | pdelgallego: you're welcome :) |
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| 11:07.07 | abrotman | hopper7: just only install that package? |
| 11:07.42 | fail007 | I installed Debian 6.0.2.1 (latest), now when ever I Safely Remove a USB-HDD the system freezes, screen goes black and only pointer is there in the center, I can't Ctrl+Alt+<number> to try and restart gdm. I searched in google and could't find something in last 10 minutes. |
| 11:08.07 | abrotman | fail007: is it a brand new install ? |
| 11:08.13 | fail007 | Yes. |
| 11:08.49 | fail007 | I am about to reinstall everything after dpkg --get-selections > list and backup /var/cache/apt/archives. |
| 11:09.07 | fail007 | Thought to ask here before going ahead. |
| 11:09.44 | fail007 | I just tried Safley Removing a flash drive, it doesn't feeze but with a USB-HDD it does. |
| 11:10.04 | ajikeshi_ | fail007, tried a different kernel? |
| 11:10.21 | ajikeshi_ | i used to have similar fuzzy issues with a few kernel versions |
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| 11:10.34 | fail007 | No, but there is one thing different from before, my account name starts with 0 (digit) |
| 11:10.58 | fail007 | I created it with useradd -m -s /bin/bash 0xsomenumber. |
| 11:11.13 | fail007 | Could it be because of that? |
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| 11:11.27 | fail007 | the file system accepts everything except /0 and \ |
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| 11:11.35 | fail007 | \0 and / |
| 11:11.37 | abrotman | fail007: tried a different flash drive ? |
| 11:11.57 | fail007 | I have only 1 near me atm. |
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| 11:15.02 | hopper7 | abrotman: no, I mean that I do not install other non-free software by accident |
| 11:15.31 | hopper7 | abrotman: else, when I search and find some software that looks interesting, I first have to check if it's free |
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| 11:16.02 | ompaul | hopper7: so you just type apt-cache policy packagename |
| 11:16.09 | abrotman | hopper7: FWIW, those binary drivers get updated rarely .. you could install it, then remove the non-free source |
| 11:16.10 | abrotman | also |
| 11:16.15 | abrotman | !tell hopper7 about vrms |
| 11:16.31 | ompaul | cries at the mention of vrms |
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| 11:17.59 | hopper7 | abrotman: I know vrms, it's funny software but it doesn't prevent me from installing proprietary stuff. I think I will just remove the non-free line after install |
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| 11:25.06 | sonias | anyone knowing how how to find the css page in mediawiki? http://server/mediawiki/index.php/MediaWiki:Common.css is blank.. tried a lot of different options. did debian do this differently from standard? its pretty wierd.. If anyone knows how to list such pages, that would be great :) |
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| 11:27.37 | wols | sonias: can't you simply find the page(s) in your /var/www/ ? |
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| 11:30.55 | dreamer | I want to upgrade the package live-build from the repo live.debian.net, I added the repo to sources.list.d/ and apt can find it now. how do I continue upgrading this particular package? |
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| 11:33.47 | wols | dreamer: apt-get install <package> |
| 11:34.08 | dreamer | wols: it says it's already the newest version |
| 11:34.14 | wols | then it is |
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| 11:34.39 | dreamer | apt-cache show sees 3 versions, and afaik 3.0~a21-1 |
| 11:34.42 | dreamer | is installed |
| 11:35.08 | wols | how can apt-cache show show more than one? |
| 11:35.18 | dreamer | I don't know. I just see 3 |
| 11:35.19 | wols | apt-cache policy <package> will show all available |
| 11:36.03 | dreamer | Installed: 3.0~a21-1 |
| 11:36.20 | dreamer | and in version table there are the 2 others |
| 11:36.34 | wols | any is one of them with a higher version? |
| 11:36.37 | dreamer | but seriously, with apt-cache show I see 3 versions each with the full review |
| 11:36.39 | dreamer | wols: yes |
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| 11:36.51 | wols | dreamer: so what does apt-cache policy say? |
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| 11:36.52 | dreamer | 3.0~a23-1 << is the latest |
| 11:37.13 | dreamer | ah, it's in experimental I see now |
| 11:37.14 | wols | and yes, I remmeber, apt-cache show does show more than one, if a newer one is available |
| 11:37.25 | dreamer | wols: it also shows the older |
| 11:38.46 | dreamer | anyway, I'm just hoping the newst actually works. the one in sid doesn't for me |
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| 11:41.24 | dreamer | installs with -t experimental now |
| 11:41.32 | dreamer | oh hehe, didn't even need the other repo for that, oh well |
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| 11:47.03 | dreamer | meh, still doesn't work |
| 11:47.24 | dreamer | and #debian-live is almost empty |
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| 11:51.16 | sephii | I just realized I have 63 /dev/ttyX nodes, is that "normal" ? |
| 11:51.18 | Fudge | hi when update-grub finds my 6.0.1 it says /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem. |
| 11:51.31 | Fudge | any ideas on how i can troubleshoot what has broken |
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| 11:57.00 | wols | Fudge: what filesystem is it in reality? |
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| 11:59.34 | Fudge | wols ext4? |
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| 12:01.32 | wols | make sure it's the correct partition type in MBR and that grub has a *ext4* in /boot/grub/ |
| 12:01.52 | wols | otherwise, you need to check out os-prober itself. IIRC it's a script |
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| 12:02.51 | rozie | Fudge: it is grub or grub2? |
| 12:03.12 | Fudge | grub2 |
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| 12:03.49 | Fudge | i might have screwed it up the way i put it on the partition though, can u tell me i f i have done |
| 12:04.16 | Fudge | i dd'd the filesystem-squashfs onto the partition and updated grub, so guessing that is not a workable solution |
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| 12:04.33 | Fudge | its a remastered debian with a screen reader enabled by default |
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| 12:07.55 | wols | Fudge: how is a squashfs a ext4 filesystem? |
| 12:08.35 | Fudge | wols , um |
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| 12:09.03 | Fudge | youre right thats very noob of me |
| 12:09.10 | Fudge | sry for wasting ur time |
| 12:09.42 | wols | I guess grub doesn't know about squashfs. what does the system use normally to boot? syslinux? |
| 12:10.30 | Fudge | i think so i have a few OS's on here |
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| 12:10.57 | Fudge | ill jsut get him to do the cd again, must have some errors on it somewhere |
| 12:11.20 | Fudge | anywayz burning debian that ive been working on today so it will boot with speech, been looking forward to it |
| 12:11.37 | Fudge | for some reason its faster than downstream distro :p |
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| 12:27.10 | blue_sky | What's the command to list hardware and which module it's using? |
| 12:27.22 | abrotman | lspci -k |
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| 12:27.38 | skilz | hey whats the command to connect wlan0 to my wifi network NETGEAR? there is no password and I want to use dhcp and the network is not hidden... |
| 12:28.11 | blue_sky | abrotman: great thank you |
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| 12:28.28 | abrotman | skilz: command? or utility? |
| 12:28.49 | skilz | the iwconfig command |
| 12:28.54 | skilz | or is it ifconfig? |
| 12:29.24 | skilz | can you please tell me the actuall one liner command? |
| 12:30.04 | metro | hi |
| 12:30.11 | metro | i'm trying to build wireshark |
| 12:30.18 | metro | but the compilation fails with this error |
| 12:30.24 | metro | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/425776/ |
| 12:30.26 | abrotman | it's not one line .. you have to use iwconfig wlan0 essid "foo" .. then ifup wlan0 |
| 12:30.37 | skilz | ok |
| 12:30.40 | abrotman | metro: wireshark is in debian |
| 12:30.43 | skilz | is that it? |
| 12:30.48 | abrotman | try it and see |
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| 12:31.21 | skilz | so just iwconfig wlan0 "NETGEAR" |
| 12:31.28 | skilz | I need the " "? |
| 12:31.46 | metro | i want to buil wireshark from source |
| 12:32.06 | metro | and i get a compilation error that is related to some missing library |
| 12:33.26 | metro | i have debian wheezy 64bit |
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| 12:38.13 | rozie | metro: wajig commands look for build-depend |
| 12:38.17 | rozie | OSLT |
| 12:39.29 | sep | i have a debian deployment machine, that deploys linux usign fai., now i also need to deploy a win7 for dualboot. would clonezilla function for a windows 7 partition, or are there better alternatives (preferably in debian) |
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| 12:41.35 | metro | rozie: already done that thinks |
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| 12:41.52 | metro | apt-get build-dep wireshark and apt-src install wireshark |
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| 12:48.42 | wols | sep: windows needs its own PE environment thingie. are you sure you can use debian to create such an image? |
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| 12:49.36 | ali3n0 | hi folks. what's the suggested place for an iptables-restore at boot time? |
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| 12:50.09 | kripz | can i make a bash script to start a screen session with split views? |
| 12:50.25 | sep | i belive so. if i can manage to make it bootable. it's simply cloning a partition that's been taken backup of. |
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| 12:52.25 | wols | ali3n0: pre-up in your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:52.29 | wols | ali3n0: see man interfaces |
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| 12:52.42 | ali3n0 | wols, thanks |
| 12:52.49 | negaduck | what should i add to sources.list to install smth from unstable? |
| 12:53.10 | Guest58945 | ali3n0: You might also want to take a look at iptables-persistent |
| 12:53.29 | wols | !tell negaduck about ssb |
| 12:53.38 | Guest58945 | negaduck: You should not do that. Create a backport of that package instead. -- /msg dpkg ssb |
| 12:54.16 | ali3n0 | Guest58945: is it Debian specific or not? |
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| 12:56.52 | babilen | ali3n0: What exactly? |
| 12:57.07 | ali3n0 | babilen, the iptables-persistent package |
| 12:57.09 | drwrr | i've built some packages for myself, and accidentally put something that's usually packaged separately in there. is there a way to create an (empty) dummy package in order to fulfil depends of other packages? |
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| 12:57.19 | petemc | drwrr: equivs |
| 12:57.22 | wols | !tell drwrr about equivs |
| 12:57.25 | babilen | ali3n0: Ah, not quite sure if it is packaged for other distributions as well. |
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| 12:57.58 | drwrr | petemc, wols, thanks, but dpkg seems to be asleep |
| 12:58.11 | wols | drwrr: install the equivs package then. read its docsd |
| 12:58.12 | wols | -d |
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| 12:59.42 | drwrr | thanks, that'll do it :) |
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| 13:09.56 | Fudge | hi having trouble with a pretty fresh install with sources http://pastebin.com/k6QAcKCz |
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| 13:10.58 | ompaul | Fudge: that ain't fresh ;-) .geekconnection.org/ |
| 13:11.46 | abrotman | Fudge: try using ftp.au.debian.org ? |
| 13:12.19 | Fudge | a friend installed it and i remastered it and grabbed the iso, i cant install debian by myself |
| 13:13.50 | Fudge | will try ftp |
| 13:13.55 | ompaul | Fudge: remastering ain't going to be the way forward ;-) do this vi /etc/apt/sources.list then in that window type the following Esc :%s/us/ie/g |
| 13:14.16 | ompaul | then ESC :wq |
| 13:14.45 | ompaul | then apt-get update; and go on with whatever - personally I'd use a debian cd for debian installs |
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| 13:15.02 | ulzeraj | Hello guys. Anything I should know about upgrading from lenny to squeeze? Talking about a Xen server. |
| 13:15.15 | ulzeraj | besides the basic stuff on how to upgrade of course. |
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| 13:16.02 | sep | http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#Upgrading.2BAC8-transition |
| 13:17.04 | Justin | ompaul: that's not his problem |
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| 13:17.16 | braunr | hello |
| 13:17.20 | Justin | Fudge: squeeze/updates is only for security.debian.org. you have redundant incorrect entries |
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| 13:17.58 | braunr | are there known issues about using gnome-keyring with something else than gnome (but with gdm) ? |
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| 13:18.44 | braunr | it looks like the env vars used by e.g. ssh aren't set (although the daemon is running), which prevents the ssh client from getting keys from gnome-keyring |
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| 13:20.18 | Fudge | i have real trouble using vi but can use nano |
| 13:20.21 | Iridos | is there a way to get new extensions for the chromium in squeeze? The chrome webstore detects that you have "an older version of Google Chrome", greys out the install button and tells you to upgrade |
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| 13:20.35 | Fudge | im happy to start the sources.list fresh, can someone give me a bsic source? |
| 13:20.39 | Fudge | basic, plz |
| 13:20.46 | Iridos | Fudge, vi is an acquired taste |
| 13:21.01 | Fudge | i find it hard with my screen reader with all the ~~~~s, but i knoww blind ppl who sware by it |
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| 13:21.05 | wols | !tell Fudge about squeeze sources.list |
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| 13:21.20 | abrotman | Fudge: all you had to do was change 'http.us.debian.org' to 'ftp.au.debian.org' |
| 13:21.36 | Fudge | i did abrotman |
| 13:21.41 | Fudge | and get invalid entry in line 6 |
| 13:21.48 | Justin | abrotman: but he has squeeze/updates on the main mirrors |
| 13:22.10 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 13:22.12 | Iridos | like... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gpgcolmilkcnccpllfdleobpflemehec ... |
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| 13:23.50 | Fudge | but this wasnt updating after install, only from the cd, i thought it was my friends gateway causing problems |
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| 13:23.59 | Fudge | its 6.0.1 |
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| 13:25.17 | Fudge | abrotman did i type it in wrong, deb ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 13:25.41 | Fudge | maybe i have to supply ftp:// ? |
| 13:25.49 | abrotman | probably .. put your /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.debian.net .. someone will check it |
| 13:25.52 | boudiccas | Fudge; you dont need the space between / and squeeze |
| 13:26.05 | abrotman | boudiccas: no, it's completely malformed |
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| 13:27.05 | jeybop | hi |
| 13:27.08 | GeekShadow | hello |
| 13:27.11 | boudiccas | hello |
| 13:27.26 | GeekShadow | how do I upgrade color depth ? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/364419/temp/debian.png |
| 13:27.33 | GeekShadow | under debian/ppc on an eMac (CRT screen 1024x768-90) |
| 13:28.45 | jeybop | I am wondering if this problem require a bugreport: linux-image-686-pae meta package links to testing, unstable and axperimental packages. linux-headers-686-pae only links to experimental. It could lead to errors |
| 13:29.48 | boudiccas | afternoon frenchie :) |
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| 13:30.31 | jeybop | is it so obvious? :) |
| 13:30.53 | braunr | jerome@chimere.imag.fr, it is |
| 13:31.15 | boudiccas | braunr; you beat me to it :) |
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| 13:33.38 | jeybop | I thought it was because of the frenglish speaking |
| 13:34.04 | abrotman | jeybop: is there actually a headers package that would work in testing? |
| 13:35.19 | jeybop | abrotman, yes linux-headers-2.6.39-2-686-pae |
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| 13:36.35 | abrotman | judd: versions linux-headers-686-pae |
| 13:36.36 | judd | Package linux-headers-686-pae on i386 -- experimental: 3.0.0~rc5+38 |
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| 13:37.11 | abrotman | jeybop: it's not really a critical bug .. i probably wouldn't bother .. i'd imagine it would be fixed eventually .. and running testing/unstable, you shuld know how to find the package |
| 13:37.35 | abrotman | i'd imagine the kernel team is aware |
| 13:37.37 | Fudge | abrotman i replaced the sources :D |
| 13:37.42 | abrotman | okay? |
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| 13:38.44 | stew | i'm not sure what it means for a package to "link to" experimental or testing |
| 13:38.53 | stew | judd: depends linux-image-686-pae --release wheeze |
| 13:38.54 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'linux-image-686-pae' was found in None/i386. |
| 13:38.55 | stew | judd: depends linux-image-686-pae --release wheezy |
| 13:38.56 | judd | Package linux-image-686-pae -- depends: linux-image-2.6.39-2-686-pae. |
| 13:39.33 | abrotman | headers package, not image |
| 13:39.54 | stew | judd: versions linux-headers-686-pae |
| 13:39.54 | judd | Package linux-headers-686-pae on i386 -- experimental: 3.0.0~rc5+38 |
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| 13:40.12 | stew | i don't see a problem |
| 13:40.21 | abrotman | stew: versions linux-headers-2.6-686-pae --release wheezy |
| 13:40.26 | abrotman | judd: versions linux-headers-2.6-686-pae --release wheezy |
| 13:40.26 | judd | Package linux-headers-2.6-686-pae on i386 -- wheezy: 2.6.39+35.1 |
| 13:40.27 | abrotman | hehe |
| 13:40.32 | abrotman | jeybop: is that what you wanted ? |
| 13:40.45 | abrotman | tried to query stew's database ... |
| 13:40.51 | jeybop | I know it's not critical, but if you upgrade doing some "install linux-image-686-pae linux-headers-686-pae", it does do what is expected, or I misunderstand the metapackage normal usage |
| 13:41.10 | abrotman | jeybop: but linux-headers-2.6-686-pae is a metapackage |
| 13:41.21 | stew | has linux-headers-686-pae EVER been in any suite other than experimental? |
| 13:41.39 | negaduck | in sources.list i have squeeze main contrib non-free. I have installed gitolite-1.5.4. How to upgrade it to 2.0.1? |
| 13:41.40 | jeybop | maybe not |
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| 13:41.58 | jeybop | stew, but linux-image-686-pae is |
| 13:42.03 | stew | jeybop: ok? |
| 13:42.38 | stew | judd: versions gitolite |
| 13:42.39 | judd | Package gitolite on i386 -- lenny-backports: 1.5.4-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.5.4-2+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1.5.4-2+squeeze1; sid: 2.0-1; wheezy: 2.0-1 |
| 13:42.43 | jeybop | ok ok, this was not a problem for me especially, I know how to handle by hand this situation, I just wanted to know if it can be considered as a bug or not |
| 13:42.51 | stew | certainly not |
| 13:42.58 | stew | negaduck: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 13:43.06 | jeybop | stew, abrotman ok, thanks |
| 13:43.16 | stew | babilen: errr, /msg dselect ssb |
| 13:43.20 | stew | i suck |
| 13:43.36 | stew | babilen: i have no idea why i'm even talking to you :) happy friday |
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| 13:44.14 | stew | jeybop: a package which exists in experimental but not in testing happens all the time |
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| 13:45.15 | ga_bash | Hi guys, I am trying to install php5 from aptitude but it says that it cannot find it. I am using the repository listed at : http://packages.debian.org/lenny/php5-common |
| 13:45.17 | negaduck | stew: should it show me some info in private message? |
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| 13:45.53 | stew | negaduck: yes, but use dselect, not dpkg, sorry, i forgot that dpkg is on vacation and mostly unavailable this week |
| 13:46.05 | ga_bash | I am using this repository : deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main |
| 13:46.05 | ga_bash | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:46.28 | abrotman | ga_bash: could you put your full sources.list in a pastebin? |
| 13:46.38 | ga_bash | abrotman, sure. please give me a moment. |
| 13:47.04 | stew | ga_bash: that's good if you are running lenny ; if you are, you should be considering moving to squeeze soon, that security mirror will stop service for lenny in a half year or so |
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| 13:47.24 | ga_bash | stew, thats really sad. |
| 13:47.48 | stew | why? |
| 13:48.09 | stew | sad that we only support outdated releases for a year? |
| 13:48.29 | ga_bash | abrotman, stew http://pastebin.com/KbA4zPs8 |
| 13:48.42 | abrotman | a year? |
| 13:48.47 | abrotman | oh, yeah |
| 13:48.51 | ga_bash | stew, no issues, but I have been using lenny for a couple of years and it feels sad to just let it go. |
| 13:49.21 | stew | if you loved lenny, you'll squeeze, its the best debian yet! |
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| 13:49.27 | abrotman | ga_bash: is this php5 for cli or apache ? |
| 13:49.42 | ga_bash | abrotman, php5-common |
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| 13:50.02 | abrotman | oh, your security line is wrong |
| 13:50.15 | abrotman | and your last source is mistyped also |
| 13:50.54 | abrotman | ga_bash: 'deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" is what it should be |
| 13:51.05 | abrotman | ga_bash: and you misspelled 'debian' on the last line of your file |
| 13:51.14 | ga_bash | abrotman, yes I noticed the last line too. |
| 13:51.34 | stew | his security line should work |
| 13:51.40 | Craigwd_2000 | Ga_bash: If you're currently running KDE 3.5.10 rather than the older release of GNOME that came with Lenny there's always Kanotix which offers the old Lenny version of KDE 3 & the Squeeze version of KDE 4... |
| 13:51.50 | stew | since http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/lenny/updates/Release works |
| 13:52.21 | ga_bash | abrotman, corrected but still 404 not found :( |
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| 13:52.44 | ga_bash | Craigwd_2000, I use gnome |
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| 13:53.05 | abrotman | ga_bash: let's see it again |
| 13:53.09 | ga_bash | stew, yeah :( |
| 13:53.25 | Craigwd_2000 | Oh: well: Squeeze comes with an updated GNOME too... |
| 13:54.00 | abrotman | ga_bash: the actual error might help also |
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| 13:56.25 | ga_bash | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/XxqVzS4U |
| 13:56.29 | ga_bash | stew, http://pastebin.com/XxqVzS4U |
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| 13:57.07 | stew | judd: versions php5-common |
| 13:57.09 | judd | Package php5-common on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; lenny-proposed-updates: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny12; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny12; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze3; sid: 5.3.6-12; wheezy: 5.3.6-12 |
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| 13:57.28 | abrotman | ga_bash: did you aptitude update first ? |
| 13:57.33 | stew | ga_bash: looks like it has been a LONG time since you have run apt-get update or aptitude update |
| 13:57.35 | ga_bash | abrotman, no. |
| 13:57.48 | ga_bash | abrotman, stew I feel unsafe to update/upgrade |
| 13:58.08 | abrotman | ga_bash: and uh .. so you haven't done an upgrade lately either? so you're missing a metric shittonne of security patches :( |
| 13:58.22 | stew | ga_bash: if you DONT update, you are trying to install an old php5 that is missing 8 new security releases |
| 13:58.24 | ga_bash | abrotman, should I do update or upgrade ? |
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| 13:58.37 | ga_bash | stew, oh I see. |
| 13:58.41 | abrotman | ga_bash: aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade |
| 13:58.51 | ga_bash | abrotman, cool |
| 13:58.56 | stew | ga_bash: we no longer distribute the older version you are trying to install because it is known to have security problems |
| 13:58.56 | abrotman | you'll probably see some stuff being held back, we'll deal with that after this round |
| 13:59.08 | ga_bash | abrotman, I do not want squeeze now |
| 13:59.14 | abrotman | you won't get squeeze |
| 13:59.18 | ga_bash | :( |
| 13:59.25 | ga_bash | claps and cheers. |
| 13:59.29 | abrotman | you can do that later .. you should do the security patches now though |
| 13:59.42 | abrotman | you're likely missing a lot of php patches, kernel patches .. all sorts of stuff |
| 14:00.10 | ga_bash | abrotman, yeah I am doing the update now. |
| 14:00.16 | ga_bash | abrotman, stew thanks for guidance. |
| 14:00.31 | dvs | ga_bash: why have lines 15 and 17? |
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| 14:01.02 | ga_bash | dvs, I wanted to install the nvidia drivers |
| 14:01.04 | stew | dvs: so that he can install new packages? |
| 14:01.20 | dvs | looks again |
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| 14:01.36 | stew | dvs: or do you mean "why have both" |
| 14:01.43 | stew | i read your question as "why have either" |
| 14:01.55 | babilen | is sure the question was "why have both" |
| 14:02.14 | dvs | stew. I mean why have both |
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| 14:02.48 | stew | right, ignore me |
| 14:02.57 | erix | Hi all, I install Squirrel mail server. When I try to login, I get this error message: Error connecting to IMAP server: tls:localhost, What could be problem? any idea, thanks |
| 14:03.04 | dvs | huh? Did someone say something? |
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| 14:03.19 | stew | blahblahblah |
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| 14:03.49 | ompaul | stew: could you give me a sec in #d-o please :) |
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| 14:04.15 | Iridos | reads the backlog |
| 14:04.22 | Iridos | I loved "<stew> if you loved lenny, you'll squeeze, its the best debian yet!" |
| 14:04.25 | Iridos | squeezes |
| 14:04.36 | dvs | wheezes |
| 14:05.04 | twobitsprite | potatoes |
| 14:05.12 | ompaul | does after visiting the doctor but it is getting less wheezy |
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| 14:09.00 | andi_kuchen | Hello awesome free software people. I have a tiny problem with ssh. |
| 14:09.00 | andi_kuchen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:09.00 | andi_kuchen | My computer runs openssh-server. ssh localhost, ssh <lan ip> works but ssh <internet ip> sucks. |
| 14:09.00 | andi_kuchen | It says => Connection refused |
| 14:09.02 | andi_kuchen | Although I activated port forwarding and even restarted my router several times! |
| 14:09.05 | andi_kuchen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:09.09 | andi_kuchen | Please, can someone help me? |
| 14:09.12 | andi_kuchen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:09.25 | twobitsprite | andi_kuchen: are you copy and pasting this from a forum or something? |
| 14:09.45 | andi_kuchen | nope I wrote it |
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| 14:09.54 | stew | andi_kuchen: please don't flood this channel. the blank lines are uneccessarily annoying |
| 14:09.58 | andi_kuchen | okok |
| 14:10.03 | andi_kuchen | I'm sorry. |
| 14:10.12 | Iridos | you're the first person I see writing empty lines anyway |
| 14:10.13 | stew | andi_kuchen: what version of debian is your router running? |
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| 14:10.49 | andi_kuchen | My router doesn't run debian. |
| 14:11.05 | ompaul | andi_kuchen: I'll go so far as to say you need to forward port 22 and it is not a debian problem |
| 14:11.19 | andi_kuchen | It's just a piece of hardware from siemens I think. |
| 14:11.25 | andi_kuchen | mhm |
| 14:11.39 | andi_kuchen | but I forwarded port 22 |
| 14:11.47 | twobitsprite | andi_kuchen: try #networking or something |
| 14:11.51 | andi_kuchen | ok |
| 14:11.54 | stew | !connection refused |
| 14:11.57 | twobitsprite | we don't support random network hardware in here :P |
| 14:11.59 | stew | %connection refused |
| 14:11.59 | dselect | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running on the specified IP address at all (e.g. apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 14:12.25 | stew | andi_kuchen: since you can connect to the port 22 on the local ip address we know its the router or a firewall, but not the debian machine |
| 14:12.36 | andi_kuchen | dselect: thx |
| 14:12.36 | dselect | THX (R), the next generation surround sound, developed by a George Lucas company. (mplayer is not certified), or just say "Thanks" |
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| 14:13.28 | andi_kuchen | I'm running debian desktop. Does debian have a firewall by default? |
| 14:13.34 | ompaul | andi_kuchen: you are talking to a bot when you mentioned dselect |
| 14:13.41 | ompaul | andi_kuchen: no |
| 14:13.44 | vtts | ga_bash, be carefull, there is a problem with latest php upgrade, var_export fix was incorrectly backported |
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| 14:13.52 | twobitsprite | andi_kuchen: it has iptables, but it's not configured to block anything by default |
| 14:13.56 | stew | andi_kuchen: no. and since you can connect using the ip address, you have already verified that its not a firewall problem on your machine |
| 14:14.04 | twobitsprite | andi_kuchen: you can check with "iptables -L" as root |
| 14:14.29 | stew | when you see nothing but "policy: ACCEPT" it means that you are doing no firewalling |
| 14:14.30 | twobitsprite | stew: well, can't you set up iptables to block by interface? |
| 14:14.35 | vtts | ga_bash, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=632194 |
| 14:15.05 | ompaul | andi_kuchen: it is not a problem for here plaese check this http://portforward.com/ and make sure you have the external ip correct |
| 14:15.22 | stew | twobitsprite: it seems that he has already connected over the correct interface, so unless he has firewalled off his router specifically, which i can't imagine... |
| 14:15.36 | andi_kuchen | ompaul: ok thanks |
| 14:16.01 | twobitsprite | stew: well... he could have a different interface for local as he does for public.... but yeah, probably not the problem |
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| 14:17.32 | swilson06 | how do i recursively unzip a bunch of files into their cwd? i try: find -name "*.zip" -print0 | xargs -0 -i{} unzip {} |
| 14:17.49 | swilson06 | ... and it puts everything into my cwd, not that of the zipfile |
| 14:18.16 | twobitsprite | andi_kuchen: I assume you're new to IRC, but for future referrence it's considered rude to private message people. Please keep the disucssion in the channel. |
| 14:18.29 | swilson06 | do i need to do '..... basename {}' or something? |
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| 14:18.44 | twobitsprite | besides, you'll be better served have the whole channel to answer your questions anyways |
| 14:19.19 | Justin | swilson06: need something like unzip {} -d `basename {}` |
| 14:19.20 | Iridos | judd, versions chromium-browser |
| 14:19.22 | judd | Package chromium-browser on i386 -- squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze5; squeeze-security: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze5; wheezy: 12.0.742.91~r87961-1; sid: 12.0.742.112~r90304-1 |
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| 14:20.47 | twobitsprite | Justin: I don't think that will work... the shell will interpret the backticks before find has had a chance to put the filename where the {} is |
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| 14:22.07 | Justin | twobitsprite: oh, righto then.. that's the gist of it though, you need to give it the -d parameter |
| 14:22.40 | Justin | i'd just do find -name '*.zip' |while read f;do unzip "$f" -d "`basename $f`";done |
| 14:22.43 | swilson06 | Justin: ah, something like that, but.... |
| 14:23.04 | swilson06 | ^^ the basename blah is the problem |
| 14:23.05 | twobitsprite | Justin: yeah, that's what I was thinking... I can't think of a way to do it without a for loop |
| 14:23.20 | twobitsprite | er, while, whatever |
| 14:23.52 | swilson06 | but basename still leads to the cwd which isn't good |
| 14:24.09 | Justin | oh, and you want dirname, not basename |
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| 14:25.15 | andi | I'm sorry ... me again. iptables -L says everything is accepted. Does it mean that "everything" from the internet is also accepted? I'm running debian desktop and not server that's why I ask. |
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| 14:25.40 | Justin | andi: are you asking what the definition of everything is? |
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| 14:25.46 | andi | I'm andi_kuchen. |
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| 14:26.00 | complete | Good Afternoon Debian! How do I find out infos about my swap partition? I thought ´mount´ would show me the swap partition but it doesnt. |
| 14:26.05 | twobitsprite | andi: 1) that means everything is accepted which reaches it, but your router is likely filtering somewhere, 2) debian doesn't have "server" and "desktop" editions... are you sure you're really running debian? |
| 14:26.06 | Bushmills | swilson06: -execdir unzip ... should do, rather than piping output to xargs |
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| 14:26.20 | andi | oh := |
| 14:26.34 | ompaul | complete: type "free" |
| 14:26.35 | andi | I thought so :) sry |
| 14:26.39 | Justin | oh, execdir is much better :) |
| 14:26.40 | vtts | complete, check /etc/fstab |
| 14:26.47 | swilson06 | Bushmills: so --exec 'blah'; -execdir? |
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| 14:26.58 | vtts | complete, also fdisk -cul /dev/YOUR_DISK |
| 14:27.06 | ompaul | andi: do this uname -a and paste the result in here please |
| 14:27.09 | Bushmills | -execdir changes to directory of found file, which seems to be what you want |
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| 14:27.19 | Bushmills | -exec doesn't |
| 14:27.29 | complete | i found what i wass looking for: cat /proc/swaps |
| 14:27.32 | complete | thanks everybody |
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| 14:27.41 | swilson06 | oh, so execdir does the same as exec, just changes the dir.... cool, thanks |
| 14:27.48 | andi | well I installed gnewsense but I think it's nearly the same as debian. |
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| 14:28.04 | ompaul | andi: join #gnewsense |
| 14:28.08 | andi | :) |
| 14:28.08 | andi | ok |
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| 14:28.27 | ompaul | ehhhh what |
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| 14:42.22 | negaduck | what env variable i have to set to force dpkg-preconfigure? like $ SOMEVAR=somevar aptitude install gitolite |
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| 14:45.43 | poisonbit | aptitude only documents 4 environment vars, and none seems related |
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| 14:46.25 | poisonbit | maybe you're looking for apt.conf (there is a DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {"/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure... in the man page) |
| 14:46.35 | poisonbit | ^^^ negaduck |
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| 14:49.41 | negaduck | poisonbit: i'll look a bit later. Thanks |
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| 15:01.07 | Diverdude | is it more difficult for people to write virus for linux than for windows? |
| 15:01.52 | DerPate | Diverdude it's not about how complex it is it's more about what you get as revenu |
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| 15:04.32 | twobitsprite | Depends on the vector. Trojans for example are generally more difficult to make because while in windows most users run with administrative rights be defaults, in linux you run as a non-root user, so it's harder for a trojan to do damage to the system |
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| 15:05.38 | abrotman | to the system, but not your user files |
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| 15:06.14 | twobitsprite | abrotman: true... but it won't be able to infect system executables, i.e.... |
| 15:06.22 | ksk | mhm dunno |
| 15:06.30 | abrotman | unless there is an unpatched system vuln |
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| 15:06.39 | ksk | in win7 you get asked if you want to invoke adminstrator rights |
| 15:06.52 | twobitsprite | right, I was just going to say, the other difference is that linux systems tend to get security patches quicker |
| 15:07.00 | seppy003 | hello, is it possible to change the bootloader (isolinux) of the cd to syslinux? |
| 15:07.01 | ksk | if you get ppl using linux to do the same (downloading a binary and runing it as root) it would be just the same in linux |
| 15:07.09 | twobitsprite | ksk: I'm not sure how secure that really is... I haven't looked in to it enough |
| 15:07.38 | twobitsprite | ksk: true, there's always the "user" vector there's no way around that... |
| 15:07.52 | dkr | plus.google.com "Your browser configuration is not supported. Learn more Update to a modern browser" google says firefox-3.5.x is not modern. how obnoxious |
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| 15:08.37 | twobitsprite | dkr: it sure seems to like firefox 5 |
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| 15:10.21 | dkr | I think their idea is more to move people to chrome than firefox. claiming a year and a half old version is not "modern" is absurd |
| 15:11.15 | dkr | ,versions iceweasel |
| 15:11.16 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-6; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-7~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-7; sid: 3.5.19-2; wheezy: 3.5.19-2; experimental: 5.0-1 |
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| 15:12.04 | twobitsprite | probably something about html5 support maybe |
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| 15:13.14 | twobitsprite | I'm still sort of confused about Chrome as a business strategy. How does it benefit Google? |
| 15:13.22 | twobitsprite | but, I guess that's a bit off-topic... |
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| 15:17.44 | debianewb | hello, can I get some help with ICE1724-based card (ESI Juli)? i am using debian squeeze, just installed, and I can't seem to get this card to work. there is no sound at all, however, i am sure my equipment is working, just tested cable and amplifier with other device. card also works fine under windows |
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| 15:21.04 | Justin | debianewb: what does aplay -l show? |
| 15:21.40 | debianewb | Justin: http://codepad.org/yG0IiaMh |
| 15:22.03 | debianewb | sorry, http://codepad.org/ALxP5AKk |
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| 15:22.27 | Justin | debianewb: you have two cards. the sound is probably coming out of the first one |
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| 15:22.59 | debianewb | i tried specifying any of ESI analog devices, no sound |
| 15:23.07 | Justin | fix the mixer? |
| 15:24.44 | debianewb | all bars up in alsamixer, if that's what you mean. however, if I do aplay -D hw:1,0 it fails: http://codepad.org/4pk4uT8q |
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| 15:29.20 | cousin_mario | hello |
| 15:29.35 | boudiccas | hi |
| 15:29.53 | cousin_mario | I need to execute a script right after a particular daemon (hostapd) is launched. What do you think would be the cleanest way to do so? |
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| 15:30.40 | boudiccas | what launches the daemon? |
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| 15:30.58 | cousin_mario | boudiccas: not sure whether it's upstart or sysvinit |
| 15:31.16 | boudiccas | ah, i'd go for a cron job myself |
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| 15:31.37 | cousin_mario | boudiccas: could you elaborate on that? |
| 15:32.04 | Justin | debianewb: aplay is pretty basic, it's telling you that it can't play 16bit for some reason |
| 15:32.09 | boudiccas | set up the script to be run in your users crontab and run it from there |
| 15:32.39 | cousin_mario | boudiccas: I see. |
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| 15:33.00 | cousin_mario | boudiccas: actually I'd like for the script to run every time the daemon is started |
| 15:33.10 | cousin_mario | so even outside the normal booting sequence |
| 15:33.16 | boudiccas | cousin_mario; but then i believe in running most things, wherever possible, from a cron job |
| 15:33.17 | Justin | debianewb: try mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.0 |
| 15:33.32 | cousin_mario | boudiccas: sounds sensible |
| 15:33.56 | cousin_mario | boudiccas: do you think it could be possible in my case? |
| 15:34.08 | boudiccas | cousin_mario; can you start the daemon from a cron job, that would make it easier if you can? |
| 15:34.20 | abrotman | cousin_mario: squeeze? |
| 15:34.45 | cousin_mario | boudiccas: I'd like not to forget to launch the script whenever I stop hostapd for maintenance |
| 15:34.49 | cousin_mario | abrotman: yes |
| 15:34.57 | abrotman | !lsb tags |
| 15:35.03 | abrotman | dselect: lsb tags |
| 15:35.03 | dselect | From squeeze onwards, Debian is using a dependency-based boot sequence (see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.Debian). This requires that all init scripts have appropriate headers in them so that the correct order of execution can be determined. Scripts like S25libdevmapper1.02 are left over from Sarge and can be deleted; your own scripts will need LSB headers added: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
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| 15:37.04 | cousin_mario | abrotman: like I said, I'm not sure that would solve my problem |
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| 15:37.53 | cousin_mario | is there an alternative to modifying the init script? |
| 15:37.59 | abrotman | why not? |
| 15:38.42 | debianewb | Justin: it fails with quite similar error: http://codepad.org/EpCc4PGv |
| 15:39.09 | cousin_mario | abrotman: would it still work if I restarted the daemon? |
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| 15:39.34 | os_admin | hello, i've this message after updating my server from lenny to squeeze $ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 15:39.35 | os_admin | No apache MPM package installed |
| 15:39.52 | os_admin | have you any solution plz |
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| 15:40.24 | abrotman | cousin_mario: restarted which daemon ? |
| 15:40.55 | homie | either get that package or edit your apache2 init script to not look for an mpm apache2 but rather another one ? |
| 15:41.09 | cousin_mario | abrotman: hostapd |
| 15:41.16 | abrotman | what is the other program ? |
| 15:41.26 | cousin_mario | abrotman: a script |
| 15:41.28 | homie | ,apache2 |
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| 15:41.34 | abrotman | cousin_mario: a script that does .... ? |
| 15:41.50 | homie | a non mpm apache2 |
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| 15:41.53 | cousin_mario | abrotman: set an IP address to an interface |
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| 15:42.02 | homie | search in the list of packages for apache2, you'll see |
| 15:42.03 | abrotman | cousin_mario: you can use the postup part of the interfaces file |
| 15:42.15 | cousin_mario | abrotman: the interface is created by hostapd |
| 15:42.24 | abrotman | cousin_mario: doesn't it always have the same name? |
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| 15:42.44 | cousin_mario | abrotman: If I set it in /etc/network/interfaces, hostapd will re-set the address. |
| 15:42.45 | abrotman | sorry, post-up |
| 15:42.56 | abrotman | cousin_mario: that's why it's called, post-up ? |
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| 15:44.22 | cousin_mario | abrotman: so, I create the interface in pre-up, set it as manual and in post-up set the address? |
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| 15:44.44 | cousin_mario | abrotman: I still think that hostapd will run after that and remove the IP that I set |
| 15:45.03 | abrotman | you can try |
| 15:45.03 | os_admin | this file /usr/sbin/apache2 does not exist |
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| 15:45.33 | abrotman | os_admin: did you install apache2-mpm ? |
| 15:45.42 | cousin_mario | abrotman: hostapd will create the interface even if it doesn't exist in /etc/network/interfaces, so I assume it will destroy it first |
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| 15:45.59 | abrotman | cousin_mario: then tack it on the end of the init file |
| 15:46.23 | abrotman | you seem to want that answer instead of trying better methods .. i'm going to stop trying to dissuade you |
| 15:46.33 | os_admin | yes before updating my server from lenny to squeeze i have lamp |
| 15:46.47 | os_admin | runnig without any problem |
| 15:47.14 | os_admin | but after update i've this problem |
| 15:47.45 | cousin_mario | abrotman: only because I just tried the post-up method and didn't work |
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| 15:48.11 | abrotman | and i gave you another method too |
| 15:48.25 | abrotman | another possible method |
| 15:48.35 | [u]nsigned | hola |
| 15:48.37 | abrotman | just tack it at the end of the init script .. |
| 15:49.13 | cousin_mario | abrotman: I had come to the same conclusion, but was hoping there was a cleaner way |
| 15:49.22 | abrotman | i suggested one ... |
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| 15:49.44 | cousin_mario | abrotman: the other one would only work at boot time |
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| 15:52.50 | nvz | I really don't like that there is no longer a specific mode for identifying.. |
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| 15:53.24 | nvz | I had gotten used to looking at my status line and seeing if I was identified or not |
| 15:53.38 | twobitsprite | nvz: I still show +i in my status line |
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| 15:53.56 | nvz | twobitsprite: thats just invisible and you're +i even when not identified |
| 15:54.10 | myopicjazz | Is there a specific channel for Debian Testing? |
| 15:54.11 | twobitsprite | ohh.... what was the mode for ident? |
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| 15:54.21 | nvz | myopicjazz: no, but you could ask here |
| 15:54.37 | nvz | twobitsprite: it used to be +e a while back when you identified |
| 15:54.38 | twobitsprite | myopicjazz: here is fine... but there's also #debian-next on oftc |
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| 15:55.22 | nvz | most testing/unstable questions are gonna be met with education on how to avoid such disasters in the future.. heh |
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| 15:56.05 | nvz | I need to install wheezy on something.. I haven't run testing/unstable in ages and been very unhappy with the last two releases |
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| 15:56.53 | nvz | if I don't help debug the testing distro I really got no room to complain.. heh |
| 15:57.21 | myopicjazz | Cool. I'll hang out here. |
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| 15:57.41 | Iridos | myopicjazz, you could also just have had a look at the topic :) |
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| 15:57.53 | nvz | myopicjazz: its not a bad place... I've lingered here over 10 years.. I prefer it to any other debian channel |
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| 15:58.34 | ion__ | hello everyone..anyone here know a good channel to talk about C language I found some but I must invited ...I don't ask here because is not a suitable place for those kind of questions I believe so... |
| 15:58.43 | twobitsprite | freenode's been around for 10 years? |
| 15:59.05 | nvz | uh yeah.. I came here back in like '99 or 2000 |
| 15:59.10 | twobitsprite | ion__: ##c |
| 15:59.47 | twobitsprite | ion__: (yes, with 2 # signs) |
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| 16:00.19 | ion__ | twobitsprite: cheers man, have a nice day ... |
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| 16:02.07 | shiftingcontrol | I have planned to move from ubuntu to debian,so i downloaded a .jigdo file and how to find my jigdo-lite finished d/l.I gave ls in the current directory ,I got debian-6.0.2.1-i386-CD-1.iso.list ,debian-6.0.2.1-i386-CD-1.iso.tmpdir ,debian-6.0.2.1-i386-CD-1.jigdo,debian-6.0.2.1-i386-CD-1.jigdo.unpacked ,debian-6.0.2.1-i386-CD-1.template .I closed terminal unknowingly |
| 16:02.23 | cousin_mario | ok, the filthy solution (hacking the startup script) worked. Thanks everyone. |
| 16:02.25 | cousin_mario | bbl |
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| 16:02.44 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: do you have a high speed connection to install? Cause you really don't need the cd.. |
| 16:03.13 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: I have been using my laptop to do debian installs via PXE, and USB is pretty easy too no need to burn a disc |
| 16:03.37 | shiftingcontrol | nvz:I normally get d/l speed of 50-60kbps ,my cdrom don't work I want to liveUSB |
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| 16:04.02 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: ah well, then cd install would be faster I suppose |
| 16:04.08 | arnoldB | hey. how to type a @ in debian squeeze (no desktop installed)? |
| 16:04.25 | Justin | arnoldB: do you get a " instead? |
| 16:04.30 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, How to proceed from now ? |
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| 16:05.04 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: I have no experience with jigdo.. but I can try.. you're saying the download completed but didnt finish building the ISO? |
| 16:05.11 | arnoldB | Justin: The german keyboard layout is installed. If I try to type ALT GR + Q, only q appears |
| 16:05.21 | debianewb | Justin: thanks for your time, I'll go for deeper investigation with my issue. |
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| 16:05.52 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, let me hang in here :) |
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| 16:06.12 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, Hw lng ur using debian ? |
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| 16:06.26 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: I've been using debian exclusively for about 10 years |
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| 16:06.49 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, oops,wrong question :) |
| 16:06.51 | stew | hw lng ur using englsh? |
| 16:06.52 | arnoldB | Justin: arghh have it |
| 16:07.03 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: are you able to pastebin some stuff related to this issue with jigdo? paste.debian.net |
| 16:07.23 | nvz | stew: I speak pittsburgese pretty fluently so I dont complain much |
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| 16:07.52 | nvz | stew: I used to make fun of my cousin for texting like that to me but after owning an itouch and knowing what the keyboard is like on his iphone I feel his pain |
| 16:07.55 | shiftingcontrol | nvz,so i should run jigdo-lite and paste the 0/p ? |
| 16:08.13 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: I'd like to see some directory info |
| 16:08.23 | stew | nvz: better yinz than me |
| 16:08.28 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: ls -l *; file * |
| 16:08.40 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: where the files are jigdo downloaded |
| 16:09.09 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, sure |
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| 16:10.02 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: if you could give me the command you ran too that would be nice |
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| 16:10.36 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: the jigdo command you killed so quickly ;) |
| 16:10.40 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, I ran in ~ so you will have loads and loads of info |
| 16:10.52 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: well you could grep it |
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| 16:11.40 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: all the files will have that debian-cd whatever name right? |
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| 16:12.29 | shiftingcontrol | nvz:yea,debia* some name,here is pastie http://paste.debian.net/121609/ |
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| 16:14.29 | Lukosanthropos | Hi I'm trying to install apache on a debian box and just getting loads of errors, the full log is here http://pastebin.com/UKHiLN2V can anyone help? |
| 16:15.15 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, updated pastie http://paste.debian.net/121611/ |
| 16:16.48 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: so how much have you downloaded then? |
| 16:17.01 | Iridos | buagent? |
| 16:17.33 | nvz | looks to me like it had already started joining files but I you never gave the info saying the file sizes |
| 16:17.33 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, no idea,you want me to run df ? |
| 16:17.50 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: would be du or ls, df is for whole filesystems |
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| 16:18.20 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: I have no idea what you've done maybe you should just torrent a damn CD image |
| 16:18.45 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: btw if you're trying to do a live debian distro off a usb stick you're better off using debian live |
| 16:18.49 | Raccoon1400 | I want to create a shared folder that can be seen by other linux machines on the house wireless network. What's the best way? |
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| 16:19.03 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: and probably should just use unetbootin in ubuntu |
| 16:19.31 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, ok ,thank you,I m planning to make liveusb,I tried using unet but it doesn't work properly at all |
| 16:19.35 | nvz | seems to me like you're just making problems that aren't really debian problems. heh |
| 16:20.09 | cahoot | Raccoon1400, nfs comes to minf |
| 16:20.11 | discozohan | Hello! Can you suggest me easy tool to test read/write random/sequential file IO ? |
| 16:20.13 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: the debian cd will not easily make you a live USB image and you're taking the most complicated route of doing it |
| 16:20.14 | cahoot | mind |
| 16:20.15 | discozohan | sysbench ? |
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| 16:20.34 | Lukosanthropos | Iridos I think it is buagent I just don't know how to fix it |
| 16:20.53 | Iridos | Lukosanthropos, what the heck is buagent and what's it got to do with apache |
| 16:21.04 | Lukosanthropos | good question |
| 16:21.19 | mibocote | Lukosanthropos: buagent is r1soft's CDP backup agent |
| 16:21.26 | Lukosanthropos | Aaaaaaaah |
| 16:21.28 | Iridos | there's no such thing on my system and I have ii apache2.2-common 2.2.16-6+squeeze1 installed |
| 16:21.31 | mibocote | I've seen that error before but I don't remember how I fixed it |
| 16:21.34 | shiftingcontrol | nz :i din't know this,i usually d/l iso and make a liveusb and install ,so what should i do now ? |
| 16:21.48 | mibocote | I had to manually fix the rc script though, I remember that |
| 16:21.53 | mibocote | for buagent |
| 16:21.56 | Lukosanthropos | Yeah |
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| 16:22.35 | Iridos | so why is the postinst script of apache2.2-common doing anyting with buagent? |
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| 16:22.45 | Iridos | or its start-script, to be precise |
| 16:23.15 | Lukosanthropos | Time to call the guys who setup the server, they can fix it |
| 16:23.24 | Iridos | hehe... |
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| 16:23.41 | Iridos | right... it's not part of a regular debian install, anyway |
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| 16:24.55 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: there are prebuilt debian live images for each desktop |
| 16:25.28 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, ok http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ i am d/l from here |
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| 16:27.08 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: if you can't figure out jigdo and want a live portable distro anyhow, then you should just download one.. that seems obvious to me |
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| 16:28.06 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, yea ur right, I am doing the second one :) |
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| 16:28.48 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: debian isn't gonna be much different than ubuntu |
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| 16:29.27 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, yea,but UI of ubuntu I have issue since 10.04,it hngs daily like windows bul shit. . . |
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| 16:30.43 | folivora | Gday. grub-probe fails, it can't find my sda1. After i did run grub-mkdevicemap, /boot/grub/device.map is empty. |
| 16:30.55 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: the differences are a matter of the communities behind the projects.. debian has always been about freedom and stability across a wide number of platforms. Ubuntu has faster release schedule, less concerned with DFSG freedoms, and a somewhat simpler gui.. |
| 16:31.19 | jargon- | run-init: /sbin/init: No such file or directory Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 16:31.23 | jargon- | any ideas |
| 16:31.24 | jargon- | ? |
| 16:31.34 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, yea . . .Debian is rock as solid,that is what ppl say,is it ? |
| 16:31.48 | folivora | Any ideas, how I could fix this problem? dmesg |grep sd gives sda1 which is my OS disk. |
| 16:31.50 | shiftingcontrol | sry solid as rock |
| 16:31.54 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: others complain its out of date.. but thats the idea we run with |
| 16:32.21 | jargon- | it won't even let me enter recovery mode. is there any way to fsck? |
| 16:32.32 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, 6 mnths is too early release ,you don't big change in 6 mnths,One year one release is much better |
| 16:32.51 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: well debian usually takes abvout 1.5-2 years.. heh |
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| 16:34.12 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, i am happy because that is how i can be happy,i had new look in 10.04 and 10.10 not big change on 11.04 more mac-ish unity,no consistency |
| 16:34.34 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: do you use different machines all the time or do you have one? |
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| 16:35.10 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: whats the point of using usb? |
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| 16:36.00 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, All these days I was student full time linux at home,i use laptop,I might buy one more lap as far as home .@Work windows.My dvd rom not working so i ve to use liveusb and update it |
| 16:36.31 | folivora | Here is what it says: http://pastebin.com/rHbvyKrW |
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| 16:37.43 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: ah, I never did get into that carrying my OS around thing.. |
| 16:38.32 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: I found using unetbootin to make a parted magic live was good enough for me.. |
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| 16:39.26 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, As far as my exp unet fails terrible in ubuntu,in windows i tried one it worked fine |
| 16:39.40 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, I will use liveusb to install in my lap . . . |
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| 16:41.10 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: I've seen my fair share of ubuntu bugs.. heh |
| 16:42.02 | nvz | folivora: what are we even looking at? |
| 16:42.16 | nvz | folivora: did you run some command that generated that error? |
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| 16:42.47 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, let me try in unet last time in ubnut ,so you are maintainer of any of debian packages or foss prjects ? |
| 16:43.25 | nvz | shiftingcontrol: nope, haven't got into any of that. Just a user |
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| 16:44.21 | shiftingcontrol | nvz, ok ,:) |
| 16:45.31 | folivora | nvz: above. I did run aptitude upgrade, everything was ok until upgrading of kernel. Somehow it wont find my OS disk, I have written udev rule that sda is sys disk. System boots without errors, but somehow it wont work! |
| 16:45.34 | nvz | I am maintaining boredom in #d today |
| 16:45.59 | nvz | o.O |
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| 16:48.01 | aeRO2 | This partition cannot be changed as it is currently in use or configured for use. How can i make this partition not being used? |
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| 16:48.27 | nvz | is everyone going to ask vague questions today? |
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| 16:48.45 | nvz | Let me guess, sol.exe caused that error? |
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| 16:49.58 | nvz | google comes up with ubuntu when I type that error in.. heh |
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| 16:54.27 | Iridos | nvz, is anyone ever asking anything but vague questions? |
| 16:55.13 | Iridos | aeRO2, unmount it? |
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| 17:01.07 | Iridos | jargon-, mount / from a live disk and look if you see what's wrong? |
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| 17:03.11 | shiftingcontrol | nvz,so ur frm USA ?:D |
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| 17:03.54 | Iridos | folivora, does grub-mkdevicemap -vvv or so provide a clue? |
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| 17:04.56 | folivora | Iridos: noup, it goes and does nothing, except now device.map is empty |
| 17:05.16 | Iridos | feel free to add more "v"s |
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| 17:05.25 | Iridos | it should print _something_ |
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| 17:05.50 | Iridos | hm |
| 17:06.13 | Iridos | folivora, mine actually looks in /dev/disk/by-id/ |
| 17:06.16 | folivora | Iridos: It doesn't print anything + it removes (hd0) /dev/sys1 from /boot/grub/device.map |
| 17:06.42 | aeRO2 | iridos, umount didn't work it says the device is busy |
| 17:06.43 | folivora | I am clueless.... |
| 17:06.52 | Iridos | could it be that your disks have no ID set and hence no representation in /dev/disk/by-id/ and that's the cause? |
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| 17:07.57 | Iridos | folivora, well, do your disks show up in /dev/disk/by-id/ ? |
| 17:08.08 | folivora | Iridos: yes |
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| 17:09.25 | folivora | Iridos: http://pastebin.com/KFgzhFSU |
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| 17:09.44 | Iridos | aeRO2, it does that... you can try to kill the processes using it, but it won't work if this is / ... you have to boot into recovery mode for /, then you can mount that disk read-only with mount -o remount,ro / (killing should work for all other disks though, but you might want to have a look at what you kill) - fuser -km /path/to/partition would kill it |
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| 17:10.20 | Iridos | folivora, what version of debian is this, btw? |
| 17:10.56 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ... how can i install debian testing ? |
| 17:11.42 | folivora | Iridos: Iridos Lenny |
| 17:11.46 | folivora | ops |
| 17:11.48 | Iridos | oh |
| 17:11.53 | wols | you install debian stable and upgrade to testing |
| 17:12.23 | cobra-the-joker | wols , ok |
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| 17:12.31 | stew | cobra-the-joker: you can also test the current testing installer, which has less chance of working: http://debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 17:12.50 | cobra-the-joker | a chance :D ... i am installing this on my main :D |
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| 17:14.16 | cobra-the-joker | stew , you tried that ? |
| 17:14.40 | Iridos | folivora, that's still using grub1 by default |
| 17:14.53 | seppy003 | i want to install debian on a thinkpad 380ed, downloaded debian 6.0.2 netinst, burned it, tested it (md5sum/vm), but it does not start "ISOLINUX 4.02 debian-20101014 *face* isolinux:" also debian 3.1 does not work, any suggestions? |
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| 17:16.06 | Serjs | can someone help me with iptables? |
| 17:17.33 | folivora | Iridos: yes :) |
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| 17:17.42 | folivora | Iridos: and is that a problem ? |
| 17:17.46 | Serjs | if i have 2 chains iptables -A INPUT -j CHAIN1 and iptabls -A INPUT -j CHAIN2 connections go to chain1 and look rules and after goes to chain2? |
| 17:18.23 | Iridos | folivora, only in so far as that's not supposed to act the same way as my squeeze system here, so bit difficult to compare |
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| 17:19.06 | folivora | hehe, :) |
| 17:19.14 | wols | cobra-the-joker: if you don't like chances, then testing is wrong for you |
| 17:19.18 | folivora | gotta investigate more... |
| 17:19.19 | folivora | bb |
| 17:19.42 | wols | cobra-the-joker: and this installer is remade every week approximately. so I doubt stew has tested this one |
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| 17:21.51 | Sevet | does anyone know why 'iface eth0 inet6 static' is ignored in /etc/network/interfaces if there's also a 'iface eth0 inet static'? works fine if inet isn't on the interface (i know it works in squeeze) |
| 17:21.58 | Sevet | is that just a limitation of lenny? |
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| 17:22.52 | stew | cobra-the-joker: i haven't installed debian in years |
| 17:23.16 | cobra-the-joker | :D |
| 17:23.32 | cobra-the-joker | lol ... so you just upgrade |
| 17:23.37 | ajikeshi_ | hehe |
| 17:23.37 | ajikeshi_ | lol |
| 17:23.43 | ajikeshi_ | imagine... upgrading from woody :D |
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| 17:23.47 | cobra-the-joker | lol |
| 17:24.05 | ajikeshi_ | i bet there will be sooooo much broken stuff inside wheezy then :D |
| 17:24.06 | nvz | has upgraded from potato |
| 17:24.07 | stew | yes. i typically just upgrade. or i have a hosting company giving me a base install to start from |
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| 17:24.16 | gNewPower | Hi - I have installed testing on a Compaq Presario C552US which sysinfo identifies as Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30a5. I am concerned that Debian does not identify it correctly. Can you please help? |
| 17:24.17 | stew | many of my boxes are upgrades from woody, yes |
| 17:24.20 | stew | and its no more broken |
| 17:24.41 | gNewPower | my resolution is 60 and all my fonts look "blurred" |
| 17:24.45 | Iridos | mine were all from potato until recently... |
| 17:24.50 | dvs | 60? |
| 17:24.55 | Iridos | but there's stuff left over from upgrades |
| 17:24.57 | nvz | heh |
| 17:25.36 | stew | that's really not even enough pixels for a blurry font |
| 17:26.05 | nvz | he only sees the W on the welcome screen.. heh |
| 17:26.13 | Iridos | specially if they're all in one row :) |
| 17:26.15 | gNewPower | dvs: 1280 x 800 - 60khz |
| 17:26.23 | gNewPower | sorry - hz |
| 17:26.26 | jargon- | Iridos: thanks |
| 17:26.40 | gNewPower | and I used to run another distro at 70 or 75 (if I remember correctly) |
| 17:26.48 | stew | gNewPower: that's likely the native frequency of the monitor which isn't going to be changable |
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| 17:26.59 | stew | gNewPower: is it an lcd? |
| 17:27.06 | gNewPower | stew, yes |
| 17:27.20 | stew | i didn't think they ever ran at anything other than a single frequency |
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| 17:27.31 | stew | which is usually 60hz |
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| 17:27.42 | gNewPower | ok, can I then do something about the fonts looking ugly? |
| 17:27.50 | Flash_ | is the native resolution of the monitor 1280 x 800 ? |
| 17:28.02 | Flash_ | that being wrong is more likely to cause your problem than refresh |
| 17:28.05 | gNewPower | Flash_, yes, |
| 17:28.40 | wols | gNewPower: all LCDs run at 50 or 60Hz. and they aren't blurry. other distros don't run at 70. you only run at 70 if you use a vga out, and then only the cable runs at this. inside the LCD it's all 60Hz again |
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| 17:28.52 | nvz | this is a $400 15.4" notebook we're talking about that came with vista and 512mb ram |
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| 17:29.14 | wols | gNewPower: check your Xorg.0.log at what resolution it runs to be blurry |
| 17:29.23 | ajikeshi_ | O_o |
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| 17:29.29 | ajikeshi_ | vista runs on 512MB ram? |
| 17:29.34 | dvs | gNewPower: I'd look at the /var/log/xorg.0.log to see what resolution was chosen. |
| 17:29.34 | nvz | no.. heh |
| 17:29.39 | gNewPower | its this one: http://www.amazon.com/Presario-C552US-Notebook-celeron-Processor/dp/B000O58PW6 |
| 17:29.45 | dvs | wols: You're too quick |
| 17:29.53 | Iridos | stew, some do, some can run at multiple .. usually at something between 60Hz and 80Hz |
| 17:29.54 | nvz | but they've been selling windows computer that don't work since... well.. actually none of them work |
| 17:30.03 | Flash_ | do the specs for that computer actually have a 945GM/GMS gpu? |
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| 17:30.17 | wols | gNewPower: LCDs are blurry when they are used at something other than thair native resolution. your LCD run at 1024x768 would make it blurry for example |
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| 17:30.40 | gNewPower | dvs what exactly am I looking for in /var/log/xorg.0.log? |
| 17:30.47 | nvz | been trying to explain to people that everything windows does is as hard on your hardware as it can be. It physically relocates everything you download when there is absolutely no reason to.. |
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| 17:32.51 | ajikeshi_ | nvz, O_o |
| 17:33.18 | Sevet | does anyone know why 'iface eth0 inet6 static' is ignored in /etc/network/interfaces if there's also a 'iface eth0 inet static'? it works fine if inet isn't on the interface. i know it can assign both ipv4 & ipv6 in squeeze this way. is this just a limitation of lenny? |
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| 17:35.03 | wols | Sevet: full IP v6 compatibility was a (achieved?) squeeze release goal |
| 17:35.08 | gNewPower | ok. another question. when I try to access "login screen" I get a prompt "click to make changes". but when I click on it it does nothing. How can I change the background of the login screen? thanks |
| 17:35.14 | wols | so lenny probably wasn't dual stack ready? |
| 17:35.15 | dvs | gNewPower: mine says "(II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1366x768" |
| 17:35.23 | Sevet | right, ok |
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| 17:35.29 | gNewPower | dvs ok. lemme check |
| 17:35.34 | Sevet | guess i need to try to get that server upgraded then |
| 17:36.11 | nvz | wols: by the look of that laptop its not a widescreen resolution it looks to be 4:3 |
| 17:36.13 | stew | Sevet: i don't know the answer to your question definitively, you should be able to assign the additional addresses in post-up lines instead |
| 17:36.31 | wols | nvz: you are mistaken |
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| 17:36.35 | Iridos | gNewPower, a review on that amazon page says you're supposed to have 1280x800 resolution |
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| 17:36.55 | stew | Sevet: so iface eth0 inet static ; address 1.2.3.4.... post-up ip addr -6 add a:b:c::1/64 dev eth0 |
| 17:36.57 | gNewPower | Idros yes, I do |
| 17:37.18 | Sevet | and post-up route -6 ... for the ipv6 default gateway, gotcha |
| 17:37.28 | gNewPower | Iridos, the resolution is there, its just that many fonts look ugly |
| 17:37.38 | nkuttler | mh, where's dpkg? |
| 17:37.48 | Iridos | hm |
| 17:37.52 | stew | nkuttler: vacation, use dselect instead |
| 17:38.08 | nvz | wols: ah it is wxga 1280x800 |
| 17:38.10 | nkuttler | stew: ty |
| 17:39.13 | gNewPower | in the font rendering details I have: resolution 96 dots per inch, subpixel (lcd) smoothing, slight hinting, RBG subpixel order (whatever that means) |
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| 17:39.44 | stew | gNewPower: yeah, you probably should verify that you have RBG and not RGB |
| 17:40.21 | seppy003 | i want to install debian on a thinkpad 380ed, downloaded debian 6.0.2 netinst, burned it, tested it (md5sum/vm), but it does not start "ISOLINUX 4.02 debian-20101014 *face* isolinux:" also debian 3.1 does not work, any suggestions? |
| 17:40.36 | Justin | seppy003: *face* ? |
| 17:40.39 | gNewPower | stew, I have RBG and not BGR |
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| 17:40.46 | stew | gNewPower: when you look at a white pixel on the screen with a magnifying glass, what pixels are the order in on the screen? red then green then blue? or red then blue than green |
| 17:40.50 | seppy003 | it is an ascii face |
| 17:41.10 | nvz | seppy003: where are you getting these cd images from? |
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| 17:41.19 | wols | seppy003: can other linuxes or windows cds boot? can you boot from usb? |
| 17:41.19 | Justin | seppy003: try floppies ? |
| 17:41.26 | seppy003 | nvz: debian.org |
| 17:41.35 | Justin | i have an old thinkpad 760e that ran debian great |
| 17:41.43 | Justin | installed it from 20 floppies :) |
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| 17:41.50 | nvz | seppy003: how about specifically? maybe you have the wrong architecture |
| 17:41.51 | seppy003 | wols: dsl is working |
| 17:42.03 | seppy003 | wols: with syslinux instead of isolinux |
| 17:42.16 | seppy003 | wols: no usb available |
| 17:42.35 | Justin | seppy003: try lenny? |
| 17:42.44 | seppy003 | Justin: the floppies i tried did not find any cdrom drive |
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| 17:42.57 | seppy003 | Justin: sarge did not work |
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| 17:43.17 | nvz | seppy003: we're talking a pentium 166mhz machine with what like 32mb ram? |
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| 17:43.28 | seppy003 | nvz: its 80mb ram |
| 17:43.36 | seppy003 | nvz: but yes it is |
| 17:43.56 | nvz | hmm, I'd think the squeeze i386 would run on that |
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| 17:44.19 | nvz | that would be considered a 586 I believe |
| 17:44.37 | seppy003 | nvz: p mmx is i586 |
| 17:44.47 | nvz | been a long time since I seen one of those |
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| 17:45.00 | gNewPower | ok. another question. when I try to access "login screen" I get a prompt "click to make changes". but when I click on it it does nothing. How can I change the background of the login screen? thanks |
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| 17:46.10 | nvz | gNewPower: seems you have to do all that manually with gdm3 cause the damn config tool doesn't do crap. The older gdm has full theme configuration, remote login..etc all in the settings |
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| 17:47.03 | nvz | gNewPower: you can either lookup how to do that manually, or you could remove gdm3 and install gdm instead |
| 17:47.08 | gNewPower | nvz, so how do I change the background wallpaper on the login screen manually? |
| 17:47.56 | seppy003 | is it possible to change the cd bootloader? |
| 17:48.11 | Sevet | hmm, did 'ip -6 addr add' and ping6 gives 'Address unreachable' to ips in the same network (lenny) |
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| 17:49.03 | Sevet | oh never mind, fixed... packets had state invalid in OUTPUT ip6tables chain, which was making them drop |
| 17:49.10 | wols | seppy003: yes, you could build your own cd |
| 17:49.20 | nvz | gNewPower: hell if I know, I'd have to google it just like you.. makes me mad they have these newer versions installed by default that don't have the GUI config tools up to speed with the previous versions.. |
| 17:49.38 | wols | but I dunno how and dpkg, which has factoids about this is offline /me glares at stew |
| 17:49.45 | nvz | gNewPower: I'm actually installing gdm now while we're talking about it cause I've been wanting to change mine too. heh |
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| 17:52.33 | seppy003 | http://linux.simple.be/debian/etch/floppy |
| 17:52.35 | gNewPower | ok nvz I will also do some research about that and maybe install gdm again... |
| 17:52.36 | seppy003 | with etch |
| 17:52.39 | egecko | anyone able to help a rusty linux user troubleshoot why an init.d script isn't running (or at least not starting the daemon invoked by the script) when his squeeze boots? |
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| 17:53.54 | Sevet | does it start if you use the init.d script yourself? |
| 17:54.01 | egecko | yes |
| 17:54.08 | nvz | gNewPower: apt-get install gdm |
| 17:54.18 | Sevet | you can try 'update-rc.d name defaults' to check it's configured to start at boot |
| 17:54.20 | egecko | and i ran insserv to insert it into the boot sequence |
| 17:54.26 | nvz | gNewPower: best to goto tt1 login as root, service stop gdm3 first |
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| 17:55.13 | a1123 | ola |
| 17:55.37 | nvz | gNewPower: the old gdm has a gui config with 5 tabs worth of widgets to configure parts of the display manager.. the gdm3 has a small dialog with maybe two settings |
| 17:55.52 | egecko | yep, its there (not using default start runlevel though since i need to make sure this daemon has everything else started first) |
| 17:56.09 | gNewPower | nvz what amazes me is that I cannot even enter my root pw to access gdm3's GUI... |
| 17:56.29 | gNewPower | and that splashscreen is *ugly* |
| 17:56.31 | nvz | gNewPower: only thing it will let you do is configure a timed login |
| 17:56.43 | nvz | gNewPower: so don't feel bad, its a useless gui anyhow |
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| 17:57.10 | gNewPower | nvz, fine, then at least give me a file to edit manually :-) |
| 17:57.19 | nvz | things like this should be the OPTIONAL and the old gdm should be what gets pulled in by metapackages |
| 17:57.35 | Sevet | egecko: could also be a path problem, when you're logged in your'll have more in your path than when the init.d script is run at boot |
| 17:57.55 | gNewPower | nvz, I just dumped Ubuntu because of their friggin "innovations" and I was not expecting to see the same problems in Debian :-( |
| 17:58.16 | gNewPower | hates Unity, Shuttleworth, Canonical., etc... |
| 17:58.21 | nvz | gNewPower: I don't know, google it for the 3rd time, or goto tty1 by presin ctrl+alt+f1 and login as root, then type "service gdm3 stop && apt-get install gdm" |
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| 17:58.49 | nvz | gNewPower: I know the feeling, tons of shit in this new release has little documentation or useful config tools |
| 17:59.15 | egecko | hrm, how can i log the output of the startup sequence so i can tell whats going on? |
| 17:59.22 | nvz | gNewPower: gdm will make it easy to change and add themes |
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| 17:59.49 | gNewPower | will gdm totally replace gdm3? |
| 17:59.56 | nvz | gdm3 is just not ready for the average user yet.. its all new config file format, its undocumented and there is no gui for it |
| 18:00.02 | egecko | when i do a tail boot, it just says "(Nothing has been logged yet.)" |
| 18:00.10 | nvz | gNewPower: yes installing it will remove gdm3 and gnome-desktop-environment |
| 18:00.32 | gNewPower | do I want to remove the gnome-desktop-environment?? |
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| 18:00.55 | gNewPower | what does that remove exactly? |
| 18:01.03 | nvz | gNewPower: all that packge is for is to istall all of gnome, its an empty package |
| 18:01.23 | nvz | gNewPower: that package should refer to gdm not gdm3 since gdm3 is not matured yet |
| 18:01.25 | egecko | could it be a permission issue with the application and/or its folder? |
| 18:01.39 | nvz | however every time I bitch about stuff like this the maintainers tell me to piss off.. heh |
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| 18:01.47 | stew | wols: dselect has a copy of dpkg's database and is online, or there is ircbots.debian.net |
| 18:02.35 | gNewPower | nvz, things have not imporved much on that list, eh...? |
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| 18:03.07 | gNewPower | nvz, are you also on testing? |
| 18:03.34 | nvz | gNewPower: I'm on stable |
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| 18:05.23 | gNewPower | gotta go, thanks guys |
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| 18:06.46 | Citizen666 | hello i got a huge install problem |
| 18:07.03 | Citizen666 | i want to install trought a usb key uing netintall |
| 18:07.25 | Citizen666 | it boot it start install process but fail at mounting cd-rom ( wich is suppossed to be the usb ) |
| 18:07.33 | Citizen666 | so installation fail |
| 18:07.43 | Citizen666 | how i can make this work ? |
| 18:07.50 | Citizen666 | trying to intall debian 6.0 |
| 18:07.50 | juso | So I move to linux and I cant use: itunes / netflix / cannon software to interact with camera / and my all in one printer/scanner/fax - Are any of you guys using linux as main desktop nowadays? |
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| 18:08.50 | Justin | juso: does since 1999 count as nowadays? |
| 18:09.23 | juso | So are you purposely avoiding the software/hardware that doesn't work on linux? |
| 18:09.34 | juso | I just don't get it |
| 18:09.44 | Sevet | yea, that's so last millenium |
| 18:09.51 | juso | What is? |
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| 18:10.04 | Sevet | 1999 |
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| 18:11.02 | Sevet | you could always run windows in a vm ;) |
| 18:11.24 | Sevet | wine's your other best bet |
| 18:11.38 | Sevet | but not everything'll run under it well |
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| 18:12.13 | juso | Yeah but thats defeats the whole purpose in my mind. |
| 18:12.30 | Sevet | there are alternatives to itunes/camera software |
| 18:12.42 | nvz | Sevet: for what? |
| 18:13.20 | Sevet | printer/scanner/fax depends on the make/model |
| 18:13.25 | Sevet | nvz: see juso's comment above |
| 18:13.49 | juso | I just don't like the feeling of, a really cool new device coming out that I an interact with on my computer, but I cant because its linux. is no one else on this boat? |
| 18:14.31 | Sevet | yep, but it's down to the manufacturers not supporting linux properly, luckily a lot of manufacturers do support it so you can vote with your money |
| 18:14.39 | nvz | juso: nope, I don't buy really cool new stuff, I buy stuff that work |
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| 18:14.54 | nvz | my itouch is the exeception, but a jailbreak solves that |
| 18:14.55 | juso | nvz: you're being a bit ridiculous |
| 18:15.06 | jhutchins_lt | juso: I've used linux as my only desktop since about 2004. |
| 18:15.13 | Sevet | in the case of itunes, there is similar music software, and there are programs that let you sync from linux, but itunes itself is probably a no-no |
| 18:15.15 | Bushmills | juso: my canon camera interacts nicely with linux - no canon software needed |
| 18:15.20 | Justin | juso: use linux or don't use linux. if you want to use itunes, then don't use linux |
| 18:15.45 | nvz | I prefer debian, and if itunes doesn't work on it, I say screw itunes its a piece of shit anyway |
| 18:16.02 | juso | Bushmills, im not talking about a mass storage device - the EOS software lets you view from camera lens and take pics/video |
| 18:16.03 | nvz | which is why I jailbreak my device |
| 18:16.20 | dvs | needs to jailbreak his nano, but I digress |
| 18:16.32 | Bushmills | juso: i use the camera for that purpose, rather than lugging the computer connect to it around |
| 18:16.41 | jhutchins_lt | Who wants iTunes nickel-and-diming you into poverty? I use amarok to manage my iPod and music collection and it doesn't try to bleed me to death. |
| 18:17.14 | juso | Bushmills, what? there is no canon eos utility option on linux. |
| 18:17.19 | jhutchins_lt | juso: If you want a live video camera, get a decent video camera. |
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| 18:17.41 | Bushmills | juso: thus not needed |
| 18:17.44 | juso | jhutchins_lt, im not sure you are aware of what im even talking about. |
| 18:17.46 | jhutchins_lt | If you want EOS specifically, buy windows. |
| 18:18.10 | jhutchins_lt | juso: I know exactly what you're talking about. You want Linux to be Windows without having to pay for it. It doesn't work that way. |
| 18:18.26 | juso | Says who? |
| 18:18.38 | juso | I don't care for paying I care for using that i ALREADY HAVE |
| 18:18.55 | jhutchins_lt | juso: Part of being a free system is that the components have to be free. If you get things that are locked down and owned by the makers instead of you, you loose that freedom. |
| 18:19.41 | Sevet | juso: i know what you mean with the camera, nikon has a similar thing. also windows only :/ |
| 18:19.50 | jhutchins_lt | Anyway, this should move to #debian-offtopic if you want to pursue it. |
| 18:20.10 | juso | Sevet, OSX as well |
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| 18:21.27 | juso | Seems to be a mindset of "if it doesn't work on linux its crap" in here a lot, besides a select few... wow - ok im outta here. |
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| 18:22.08 | boudiccas | good |
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| 18:22.39 | jhutchins_lt | Some people just have no clue what it's about. |
| 18:22.58 | juso | like you it seems. |
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| 18:25.05 | Bushmills | juso: some people could be considered consumers, without interest in what's inside. those don't tend to care whether the technology inside is free or not. some are interested enough to care about what they run, specifically the software on their computers |
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| 18:26.29 | Bushmills | from a consumer point of view, i'm sure your position has its merits too |
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| 18:28.47 | juso | Anyone who claims that software/hardware that doesn't run on linux is crap - is delusional |
| 18:29.07 | _spm_Draget | I have an old Debian Etch system inside a virtual machine. I want to migrate things but would like to get it running inside the VM first. When installing vmware guest modules, they are compiled and some files are missing. I manually added and installed linux-headers-2.6.18 but I think I also need kernel-kbuild and kernel-utils etc. aptitude search kernel-kbuild does not return anything. I updated my apt sources - but when I updated aptitude |
| 18:29.09 | _spm_Draget | and tried to install anything, it updated half the system, ending in everything messed up. Can I somehow only update one single packge? |
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| 18:29.58 | _spm_Draget | I tried to search for linux-kbuild for etch online but failed to find the package. |
| 18:30.15 | Bushmills | just because the opinion of those claiming that differs from your doesn't mean that their position is less valid |
| 18:30.17 | _spm_Draget | Instead of upadteing apt sources, I would prefer just isntalling this package. |
| 18:31.09 | stew | _spm_Draget: it would be called linux-kbuild-$version not kernel-kbuild-$version |
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| 18:31.22 | _spm_Draget | OhĂ¢Â€Â¦ |
| 18:31.43 | stew | but I don't remember if etch even had those packages |
| 18:32.04 | stew | i think prehaps it was brefore they existed |
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| 18:33.03 | _spm_Draget | stew: Thanks for the info. And yet my old etch does not even find anything with 'aptitude search kbuild', in paricular no linux-kbuild-... |
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| 18:33.40 | _spm_Draget | But maybe I find the package that way... *googles+ |
| 18:34.04 | stew | ah, linux-kbuild-2.6.17 appears to have been the first, so a 2.6.18 at least existed. i have no idea if it was in etch |
| 18:34.16 | somiaj | you'll most likely not find a package compadable with etch's libaries. |
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| 18:34.22 | somiaj | or have a lot of trouble |
| 18:34.25 | _spm_Draget | Oh, got it! |
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| 18:42.20 | _spm_Draget | Someone mentioned 'kernel-utils'Ă¢Â€Â¦ what is the name of that package? 'kernel-utils' or 'linux-utils' I fail to to find for etch again =( |
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| 18:44.02 | sauvin | _spm_Draget, um... etch is pretty old. You *have* to use it? |
| 18:44.15 | shiftingcontrol | _spm_Draget, its is core-utils what you want |
| 18:44.22 | shiftingcontrol | if i m ryt |
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| 18:45.43 | myopicjazz | Looks like the xorg updates borked the Nvidia driver. I'll reinstall nvidia-glx when I get home and see if things improve |
| 18:48.24 | drwrr | i recall someone mentioned this here - what's that package that will make launchers in gnome's admin menu automatically run as root? |
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| 18:49.59 | gustonegro | hello, is it appropriate to ask packaging related questions here? I have one regarding debuild and gtk-doc |
| 18:50.33 | Zopieux | i'm currently using debian squeeze |
| 18:50.56 | Zopieux | what can happen if I change squeeze to sid in source.list? |
| 18:51.50 | jhutchins_lt | Zopieux: The usual. Things will break. |
| 18:51.54 | myopicjazz | Zopieux, you get to experience more frequent package breakage. See my entry about Nvidia above. |
| 18:52.06 | Zopieux | hm |
| 18:52.09 | myopicjazz | Although I'm running testing. |
| 18:52.30 | jhutchins_lt | Zopieux: I think experienced users recommend going through wheezy first anyway. |
| 18:52.34 | Zopieux | so is it possible to upgrade from squeeze to sid (or wheezy) without breaking everything? |
| 18:52.51 | jhutchins_lt | Zopieux: No. wheezy and sid exist to be broken. |
| 18:53.18 | Zopieux | yes i know, that's not what I would like to understand |
| 18:53.45 | myopicjazz | I suspect I would fewer breakages without Nvidia drivers. I'm pretty much asking for trouble. |
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| 18:54.04 | Zopieux | I mean, is changing "squeeze" to "wheezy" in source.list clean enough to change my debian distrib? |
| 18:54.28 | jhutchins_lt | !squeeze->wheezy |
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| 18:54.50 | dvs | !tell Zopieux -about squeeze->wheezy |
| 18:54.52 | jhutchins_lt | Zopieux: You want to make sure you're completely up-to-date on squeeze first. |
| 18:55.07 | jhutchins_lt | dselect squeeze->wheezy |
| 18:55.07 | dselect | Following a release, testing tends to be more of a developer's playground and a <moving target>. If you have to ask how to do this, ask yourself if you know enough about Debian packaging to run a non-stable release yet. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like squeeze-updates and backports, then change squeeze to wheezy. "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade". See also <testing> and <apt-listbugs>. |
| 18:55.30 | Zopieux | so it's enough. |
| 18:55.37 | Zopieux | two little apt-get and done. |
| 18:55.57 | jhutchins_lt | Is udev still broken in wheezy? |
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| 19:00.18 | daemon | hello all I am trying to port a wepapp (service) over from freebsd to linux; what would the equivlent to mdconfig -a -t malloc -s 10M |
| 19:00.23 | daemon | basically create a drive in ram |
| 19:00.27 | daemon | that then can be formatted and used |
| 19:01.04 | daemon | well formatted; mounted and used |
| 19:01.19 | Zopieux | hm |
| 19:01.29 | Zopieux | i've no choice, i'm stuck with the 2.6.32 kernel |
| 19:01.30 | sauvin | Can't use /dev/shm? |
| 19:01.37 | Zopieux | is it ok to go to wheezy? |
| 19:02.06 | Zopieux | it's actually an OpenVZ VPS, so i'm not sure. |
| 19:02.53 | sauvin | daemon, the drive has to be a certain size? Can't use /dev/shm? |
| 19:03.26 | daemon | sauvin, yes it has to be a certain size |
| 19:04.13 | daemon | sauvin, I have no experiance with /dev/shm can I create malloc memdisks via it; if so what man page would be the one you recommend to read |
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| 19:04.51 | bocaneri | Don't know, looking. /dev/shm exists and is ready to use; a drive in RAM. |
| 19:05.33 | somiaj | Zopieux: its not recomended to run testing on a server -- you can look for kernel backports if you need a more recent kernel. |
| 19:06.02 | Zopieux | the problem is not stability - this VPS is not really used publicy |
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| 19:06.28 | Zopieux | i was wondering about openvz issues if I upgrade the debian distrib |
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| 19:06.33 | Zopieux | of kernel issues |
| 19:06.43 | somiaj | just saying its not recomended, but you should cehck the /topic if you want to talk about #debian-next on another irc network |
| 19:06.55 | pzn | I have a printer that is too fast by USB and too slow by Ethernet. I think that is related to the driver that I choose in cups. Lexmark E120N. any hint about how to find the right driver? |
| 19:06.58 | somiaj | you just have to be wlling to fix anything that breaks |
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| 19:24.56 | jhutchins_lt | Zopieux: Specialized kernels WILL be slower to come out for Sid. |
| 19:25.08 | Zopieux | ok |
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| 19:29.29 | Bushmills | pzn: how can a printer be too slow for ethernet? |
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| 19:31.14 | jhutchins_lt | Or too fast for that matter. |
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| 19:33.15 | Bushmills | ppds for E120 are in foomatics |
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| 19:34.25 | peterrooney | would it be considered a bug that iotop, when quitting, leaves text on the prompt line? |
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| 19:36.04 | jhutchins_lt | Embedded printservers are notorious for storming the network. |
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| 19:38.54 | bentleymt | I keep losing my network connection. On a reboot it works fine. Does someone have ideas for tracking down the problem when it next occurs? |
| 19:39.38 | bentleymt | It seems to be happening at random, but I could be wrong. I know that it drops if I try to transfer large files over my home network. |
| 19:39.46 | Bushmills | bentleymt: kernel > 2.6.32, with broadcom wlan controller? |
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| 19:40.26 | bentleymt | Bushmills: How do I check the controller? |
| 19:40.32 | Bushmills | lspci |
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| 19:41.35 | bentleymt | Thanks. kernel info: 2.6.36-2.dmz.5-liquorix-686 |
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| 19:41.49 | Bushmills | that's not a debian kernel |
| 19:42.04 | Bushmills | alien kernels may cause extra problems |
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| 19:42.19 | pzn | Bushmills, when I use it via USB, I think the computer "process" the graphics pages and writes to printer in a specific language. When I use ethernet, it seems that the computer sends the PS file to the printer, so it has to process locally |
| 19:42.40 | bentleymt | Maybe I will try the default kernel next time I reboot. |
| 19:42.52 | jhutchins | ,versions irssi |
| 19:42.54 | judd | Package irssi on i386 -- lenny: 0.8.12-7; lenny-backports: 0.8.15-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.8.15-2; squeeze-backports: 0.8.15-4~bpo60+1; sid: 0.8.15-4; wheezy: 0.8.15-4 |
| 19:42.56 | pzn | Bushmills, usb-fast -> using the manufacturer windows driver. ethernet -> using the cups recommended driver (postscript) |
| 19:43.11 | bentleymt | Is this the relevant bit of lspci output: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) |
| 19:43.55 | wols | bentleymt: probably. at least it's an ethernet nic. but definitely not broadcom but ancient realtek |
| 19:44.05 | pzn | Bushmills, slow is one page each 90 seconds for graphics in ethernet and one page each 10 seconds in usb |
| 19:44.10 | Bushmills | bentleymt: if that's the interface you're using, yes. though that's a robust interface. |
| 19:44.50 | bentleymt | It should be. Do not have wireless on this laptop. 2006 era Toshiba. |
| 19:45.57 | jhutchins | pzn: What happens if you use the cups driver over usb? |
| 19:46.08 | Bushmills | pzn: , graphics tend to be a lot slower, as they'll have to e transferred pixelwise, in contrast to textm which, when sent as postscriptm is rendered in the printer (if printer supports it) |
| 19:46.39 | Bushmills | sorry, small keys. double strokes |
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| 19:48.08 | pzn | jhutchins, A little hard to test cups over usb. all thin clients, hard to take the printer near the server to connect with it directly to the usb port. will have to do it after 18hs :-) |
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| 19:49.40 | bentleymt | So, what seems to be the problem, or at least may be part of the problem, is that sudo ifup eth0 fails, saying that eth0 is not configured. ifconfig shows eth0 though. |
| 19:50.37 | Justin | bentleymt: ifup uses /etc/network/interfaces. |
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| 19:52.39 | bentleymt | Hmmm.... Did not know that. Will look at how to restart them. |
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| 19:55.02 | _spm_Draget | Debian Etch: Is there a script that is executed each boot where I can add my own command? |
| 19:56.04 | pzn | _spm_Draget, one easy way is to add a cron rule "@reboot /path/to/my/command" |
| 19:56.55 | _spm_Draget | pzn: is there also something like @boot ? |
| 19:57.21 | pzn | _spm_Draget, @reboot is what you need. it executes once at boottime |
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| 19:58.11 | _spm_Draget | pzn: Into the roots contab? (i.e. conrtab -e as root)? |
| 19:58.39 | _spm_Draget | Oopw, found it. |
| 19:58.48 | pzn | _spm_Draget, it can be any user. if you want that your program to be run as root, add in roots crontab. it you want other user, add in other user crontab |
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| 19:59.36 | gNewPower | Hi. apt-get autoremove just shot my install of testing and removed the network manager. is that a known issue? |
| 20:00.23 | Justin | gNewPower: which? apt-get autoremove removing too many things, or the user not paying attention to what apt-get does? |
| 20:00.30 | stew | gNewPower: what does "shot my install" mean? |
| 20:00.58 | gNewPower | means removed a shitload of active applications including my network manager |
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| 20:01.23 | stew | gNewPower: did you recently remove something that would have caused gnome or gnome-desktop-environment packages to be removed? |
| 20:01.45 | gNewPower | stew, I don't believe so, no |
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| 20:02.09 | gNewPower | I installed htop and got a prompt to enter apt-get autoremove |
| 20:02.17 | gNewPower | never had a problem with that before |
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| 20:02.27 | stew | gNewPower: are you, or were you ever running gnome? |
| 20:02.32 | gNewPower | yes |
| 20:02.35 | gNewPower | on both |
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| 20:03.21 | gNewPower | how do I get my network-manager back? is there a way to do that with the install CD? |
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| 20:03.32 | stew | gNewPower: aptitude install network-manager |
| 20:03.47 | stew | gNewPower: are the gnome and gnome-desktop-environment packages currently installed? |
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| 20:03.53 | gNewPower | I have no connection... |
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| 20:04.26 | stew | you don't need one to install from the CD |
| 20:04.47 | gNewPower | ok |
| 20:04.50 | gNewPower | I will try |
| 20:04.53 | stew | dselect: apt-cdrom |
| 20:04.53 | dselect | somebody said apt-cdrom was used to add a new CDROM to APT's list of available sources: man apt-cdrom. See also <apt-cdrom_external>. |
| 20:05.10 | gNewPower | thanks, I will let you know |
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| 20:05.52 | stew | gNewPower: if you remove a package which causes the gnome metapacakge to be removed, it is expected that all of gnome might get removed by autoremove as a result |
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| 20:06.38 | stew | i wish I could remember who blogged on planet about fixing this recently |
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| 20:07.16 | ompaul | fornow please fix that connection thanks |
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| 20:08.59 | _spm_Draget | Thanks pzn, working like a charm. Bye! |
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| 20:16.47 | gNewPower | stew, what is the syntax for apt-cdrom |
| 20:17.03 | gNewPower | (my cdrom is already mounted) |
| 20:17.19 | stew | i don't know |
| 20:17.51 | gNewPower | well, then I am in trouble. bad thing being a debian noob I suppose |
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| 20:18.02 | stew | i'd have to read the manpage to find out myself |
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| 20:18.18 | gNewPower | ok |
| 20:18.25 | gNewPower | thanks anyway |
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| 20:19.39 | Justin | gNewPower: just run apt-get install network-manager and copy the debs that mentions from the cd to /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 20:20.14 | pokkerface | how do i see the latest packages i installed? |
| 20:20.29 | gNewPower | actually, I found it. its "apt-cdrom add" |
| 20:20.35 | Justin | pokkerface: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 20:20.38 | gNewPower | sorry, I am having a really bad day |
| 20:20.48 | pokkerface | thx |
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| 20:23.48 | gNewPower | stew, Justin network manager failed to install as APT tried to download a bunch of associated files/dependencies through my network. so I am still stuck |
| 20:23.49 | gNewPower | I really would like to stick to debian, but so far its been horrible, to be honest. |
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| 20:24.16 | Justin | gNewPower: are you using a wired or wireless connection? |
| 20:24.31 | gNewPower | could use either one, but none works right now |
| 20:24.40 | Justin | oh, FFS then, just run dhclient eth0 |
| 20:25.12 | stew | i would imagine that any distro would give you problems when you have it remove of tons of packages you were relying on |
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| 20:26.54 | gNewPower | ok. this time it installed. forgive the dumb question, how do I start the network manager now? |
| 20:27.16 | gNewPower | as root from the CLI, of course |
| 20:27.24 | Justin | it would start automatically |
| 20:27.37 | gNewPower | it did not, it said that it was stopped |
| 20:27.47 | gNewPower | "Network manger already stopped" |
| 20:27.51 | stew | /etc/init.d/network/manager start |
| 20:27.54 | stew | err |
| 20:27.56 | stew | network-manager |
| 20:28.08 | gNewPower | thanks stew - I will try that now |
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| 20:29.30 | gNewPower | ok. its says that its already started. but I see nothing in the task bar. |
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| 20:29.46 | nkuttler | hm, how can i find out why package isn't available for some architecture? |
| 20:29.58 | stew | nkuttler: in unstable? |
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| 20:30.00 | gNewPower | what is the comprehensive " GNOME reinstall" command? |
| 20:30.08 | nkuttler | stew: yeah |
| 20:30.09 | Justin | oh, well you should have said something about the taskbar.. you asked how to start it as root from the CLI |
| 20:30.10 | stew | gNewPower: aptitude install gnome |
| 20:30.19 | stew | nkuttler: check buildd.debian.org/sourcepackagename |
| 20:30.25 | gNewPower | ok stew, I will try that - adn thanks a lot for your patience! |
| 20:30.28 | Justin | you need to run nm-applet to start the network manager applet |
| 20:30.35 | Justin | it'll probably start automatically if you log out and back in |
| 20:31.28 | nkuttler | oh my it's not even in squeeze.. i guess dockapps aren't very popular any more :\ |
| 20:31.30 | gNewPower | stew - I think that its reinstalling it all. thanks a lot. |
| 20:32.26 | gNewPower | stew, you know, I am 110% pro-Debian on values and this is why I dumped Ubuntu, but the first steps are tough, so your help and patience with a noob like myself is really greatly appreciated!! |
| 20:33.13 | eikenberry | For chromium password management... I know it works with gnome-keyring and kwallet, but does anyone know if it works with keychain? |
| 20:33.23 | gNewPower | Justin, thanks to you too |
| 20:33.41 | stew | gNewPower: that's great to hear. sorry you are having troubles. I do, however, think that these troulbes are not debian specific. letting "apt-get autoremove" remove tons of packages on you could have just as easily happened in ubuntu |
| 20:34.08 | gNewPower | stew - on Ubuntu apt-get autoremove never cause a problem to me |
| 20:34.33 | gNewPower | since APT is the one which told me to do it, I assumed that it was safe |
| 20:34.42 | gNewPower | why was my assumption mistaken? |
| 20:34.47 | stew | gNewPower: and you are the one that told apt it was ok to remove network-manager |
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| 20:35.25 | stew | gNewPower: yes, it was safe |
| 20:35.34 | gNewPower | stew, well, it was in the list I am sure, but I did not even look since that list of obsolete packages was suggested by APT in the first place |
| 20:35.35 | stew | it won't do somehting unsafe like removing an essential package |
| 20:35.42 | stew | it will remove the packages it tells you it is going to remove though |
| 20:35.55 | gNewPower | I lost other apps. like liferea and a few others, not just the network manager |
| 20:36.14 | stew | if you had it remove all of GNOME, i'm sure you lost a lot of apps |
| 20:36.19 | gNewPower | but is a network manager not an essential package? |
| 20:36.23 | stew | certainly not |
| 20:36.27 | gNewPower | oh |
| 20:36.41 | gNewPower | well, in Ubuntu it was. |
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| 20:36.53 | stew | i run dozens of machines and the only one that has it installed is my wife's laptop |
| 20:37.01 | stew | i doubt it is in ubuntu |
| 20:37.03 | gNewPower | so is there a safe way to remove all obsolete packages? |
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| 20:37.22 | stew | gNewPower: what do you mean by obsolete? |
| 20:37.33 | philipballew | how do i start an applaction from the comand line |
| 20:37.41 | gNewPower | well, it was APT that labeled obsolete |
| 20:37.49 | wols | philipballew: you enter the binary's name and press enter |
| 20:37.58 | gNewPower | philipballew, if you know the name, just type it in the terminal |
| 20:38.38 | stew | gNewPower: "apt-get autoremove" then |
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| 20:38.53 | gNewPower | stew, that is what I did! |
| 20:38.57 | stew | yes |
| 20:39.10 | Bushmills | deborphan may be useful too |
| 20:39.22 | gNewPower | and it shot my network connection |
| 20:39.31 | philipballew | wols thats what i assume, but when i did a apt-get install cmus. it installed but when i type cmus it says comand not found |
| 20:39.35 | stew | if you mean "is there a way to have apt read my mind and not remove things that I tell it to remove because it knows I don't actually want them removed" then no |
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| 20:39.53 | stew | gNewPower: if you want to tell apt that a pacakge it thinks is obsolete shouldn't be removed, use apt-mark |
| 20:40.38 | gNewPower | stew, LOL. I don't think I will ever use the apt-get autoremove again... |
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| 20:41.19 | peterrooney | philipballew: what I would do would be, dpkg -L cmus | grep /bin/ ti find out the name of the binary. |
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| 20:42.02 | gNewPower | stew, my connection is back. thanks, brother, thanks A LOT for your help and patience! |
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| 20:43.01 | Gunstick | hi. little wordpress/debian question: I want to use wordpress as a standard user in his home directory instead of the default install. is this possible with the debian package or should I simply use the tar.gz from wordpress site? |
| 20:43.11 | gNewPower | stew, can I remove my cdrom from my repo list now? |
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| 20:43.19 | philipballew | hum. peterrooney it says no packages found. perhaps a bad install |
| 20:43.21 | wols | philipballew: dpkg -L <cmus package name> |grep bin |
| 20:43.46 | wols | philipballew: damn. you mind read me :( |
| 20:44.16 | wols | rather peterrooney did. you both start with the same letter |
| 20:44.28 | wols | guess it might be time for bed |
| 20:44.50 | philipballew | haha wols, ill try with aptitude and not spt-get |
| 20:44.55 | philipballew | *apt-get |
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| 20:46.30 | philipballew | peterrooney, wols, well that didnt work either. intresting. perhaps a different cli music player is needed |
| 20:46.50 | Gunstick | anyone here who installed wordpress via apt? |
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| 20:47.56 | bst | gNewPower: yes, or comment line |
| 20:48.26 | gNewPower | bst, in synaptic - just unmark the CD, right? |
| 20:49.16 | bst | gNewPower: i don't use synaptic |
| 20:49.26 | gNewPower | bst, ok |
| 20:49.36 | gNewPower | in sources simply comment out. thanks |
| 20:49.51 | philipballew | how do i install Install Media Player Codecs |
| 20:50.18 | gNewPower | philipballew, I used debian multimedia repositories |
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| 20:50.49 | gNewPower | http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs |
| 20:51.42 | gNewPower | http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
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| 20:52.27 | bentleymt | Hmmm.... So, if understand correctly, if something is not defined in /etc/network/interfaces and NetworkManager is installed, then NetworkManager will be what deals with a connection? |
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| 20:54.43 | flamingspinach | when using a program like `less` or `man` which displays stuff on the screen but erases it when it exits, you lose lines from the top of your scrollback, right? It doesn't create a separate buffer or anything, does it? |
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| 20:55.18 | Gunstick | it creates a separate buffer if the terminal supports it |
| 20:55.20 | jY | i'm looking to build http://packages.debian.org/testing/admin/monit for lenny.. never did it before.. can use the debian.tar.gz listed on the right somehow? |
| 20:55.45 | Bushmills | philipballew: cmus is in main of all lenny through sid. if that doesn't install, the solution is not to choose another player, but to fix your sources.list |
| 20:55.49 | gNewPower | thanks everybody! bye |
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| 21:08.08 | pokkerface | how do i open a port in debian? |
| 21:08.48 | wols | you bind some program to it so it's open |
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| 21:09.42 | pokkerface | wols, how do you do that? |
| 21:10.00 | wols | pokkerface: tell us your real problem please |
| 21:10.07 | topyli | pokkerface: why do you close ports to begin with? :) |
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| 21:10.49 | pokkerface | i suppose they are closed by default |
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| 21:11.51 | pokkerface | i opened the port in the router and now i need to open it in my pc |
| 21:11.51 | topyli | i'm not sure. i thought everything is open by default, but i'm new to debian really so i haven't thought about it |
| 21:12.14 | wols | topyli: on any OS, every port is closed by default |
| 21:12.25 | topyli | wols: not ubuntu, for example |
| 21:12.29 | Brekkjern | Hello. Really stupid question here. I just finished installing Debian I think. I just forgot what the last message said. I am looking at a blue display with an input box in gray on the bottom. What do? |
| 21:12.30 | wols | pokkerface: so what server do you want to run behind your router or why did you forward that port? |
| 21:12.38 | wols | topyli: ALL of them |
| 21:13.00 | topyli | the ports are open, no services are just listening :) |
| 21:13.08 | phogg | topyli: I think you misunderstand what "open" means |
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| 21:13.15 | wols | topyli: you have to bind to it with a program to open it. no exceptions. sometimes this program can run by default in the OS, but naturally a port is always closed |
| 21:13.26 | pokkerface | wols, nicotine |
| 21:13.38 | topyli | ah ok, we're talking about different things |
| 21:13.39 | wols | ,info nicotine |
| 21:13.39 | judd | Package nicotine (net, optional) in squeeze/i386: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. Version: 1.2.14+dfsg-1; Size: 1107.7k; Installed: 3983k; Homepage: http://www.nicotine-plus.org/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/nicotine |
| 21:13.43 | Ichigo | I'm getting a 404 error trying to install a package on squeeze with aptitude, http://pastie.org/2151885 |
| 21:14.34 | wols | judd: then find out on which port this thing listens and forward that exact port. you can see what programs have opened what with "netstat -anpl |less" |
| 21:14.43 | topyli | wols, phogg: i'm only talking about the iptables configuration. of course if nothing listens to a port, it's "closed" |
| 21:15.01 | topyli | or "invisible" or something |
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| 21:15.21 | wols | ,versions http://pastie.org/2151885 |
| 21:15.21 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'http://pastie.org/2151885' was found in i386. |
| 21:15.27 | wols | ,versions libdbus-1-dev |
| 21:15.27 | judd | Package libdbus-1-dev on i386 -- lenny: 1.2.1-5+lenny1; lenny-proposed-updates: 1.2.1-5+lenny2; lenny-security: 1.2.1-5+lenny2; squeeze: 1.2.24-4+squeeze1; wheezy: 1.4.12-2; sid: 1.4.12-4; experimental: 1.5.4-2 |
| 21:15.37 | phogg | topyli: it would be nice if all OSes firewalled all ports by default, too |
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| 21:16.06 | wols | Ichigo: try another mirror? |
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| 21:17.08 | Ichigo | wols, Well being that the mirror it's 404'ing on is debians ftp mirror, I thought it might be worth reporting |
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| 21:17.36 | wols | Ichigo: IIRC it's a round robin mirror. and sometimes a mirror has problems |
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| 21:18.26 | Ichigo | and problems don't get fixed if they're not reported :p |
| 21:18.58 | Ichigo | I'll try another mirror though, thanks. |
| 21:19.11 | topyli | phogg: why not. i don't really see the point, but there's no real harm i guess if we make it easy to open them |
| 21:19.21 | wols | here is the wrong place to report them :) |
| 21:19.42 | Ichigo | Any specific mirror you'd recommend as a secondary by chance? |
| 21:20.13 | wols | no. my mirror which seems to work fine (.de) is in europe... |
| 21:20.27 | dvs | Ichigo: it depends where you are. |
| 21:20.38 | Ichigo | U.S. |
| 21:20.51 | dvs | Hawaii? Alaska? |
| 21:20.58 | Ichigo | North Carolina |
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| 21:21.06 | Ichigo | Hawaii doesn't sound to bad though. |
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| 21:23.56 | dvs | Ichigo: ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu isn't too far away |
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| 21:24.44 | Ichigo | Ahah, I just realized I'm an idiot.. |
| 21:24.51 | Ichigo | I'm in North Carolina, but my server is in Arizona. |
| 21:25.42 | jhutchins_lt | Is there some application that will take multiple firefox bookmarks files and combine them, eliminating duplicates? The one on this system has become corrupt and I need to restore it from another copy. |
| 21:26.46 | Brekkjern | Hello. Really stupid question here. I just finished installing Debian I think. I just forgot what the last message said. I am looking at a blue display with an input box in gray on the bottom. What do?v |
| 21:27.14 | jhutchins_lt | Ichigo: Physical proximity and network proximity are not necessarily related. I can traceroute servers right here in kansas city that get routed through baltimore. |
| 21:27.39 | jhutchins_lt | Brekkjern: Hit enter? |
| 21:28.24 | Brekkjern | Just a new line |
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| 21:29.13 | hopper7 | isn't there any good anternative to tuxcmd? |
| 21:29.15 | craigevil | jhutchins_lt, you should be able to restore the bookmarks from one of the back ups in your profile dir, mine is in /home/craig/.mozilla/firefox/id0xuejo.default/bookmarkbackups/ |
| 21:30.23 | craigevil | hopper7, mc :) |
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| 21:30.38 | jhutchins_lt | craigevil: Yes, but I want to preserve any new bookmarks that are salvagable. |
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| 21:30.55 | hopper7 | craigevil: I'm talking about GUI programs |
| 21:31.08 | jhutchins_lt | craigevil: Also, I'd like to occasionally merge the bookmarks from my desktop and my laptop. |
| 21:31.22 | craigevil | i have backups from yesterday, unless you added bookmarks today it should be fine |
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| 21:31.38 | bst | jhutchins_lt: bookmarkbridge ? |
| 21:31.55 | craigevil | have you thought about using Mozilla sync or Xmarks? |
| 21:32.11 | Craigwd_2000 | I've been getting a lot of Segmentation Faults when attempting to boot into Wheezy via the option for the AMD64 2.6.32-5 Xen specific Kernel... Should I be concerned about this...? Would this be the sort of thing that might be indicative of a failing motherboard...? I mean it is an HP after all... |
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| 21:33.33 | Brekkjern | Mkay. Suddenly I got activity. Ill concider it solved :P |
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| 21:36.10 | jhutchins_lt | craigevil: No, that's what I'm looking for - suggestions to look into. |
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| 21:37.17 | craigevil | xmarks is rather nifty especially since it works with Chrome/Chromium as well |
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| 21:38.15 | Tobbe__ | I'm running debian 5.0.3 and installed git from source a long time ago. Now I want to remove it and install using apt instead. How do I remove it? There's no "make uninstall" target |
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| 21:39.39 | nyov | Tobbe__: manually find the files involved and remove them |
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| 21:41.08 | Craigwd_2000 | Was that comment directed at me...? I've tried an AMD64 specific hardware troubleshooting distro before but it doesn't work right since the kernel & everything else is so out-dated... I would just install HP's UEFI package but I can't without knowing how large the hidden partition needs to be... Even if I could get it installed the Intel EFI Docs. don't even explain how to run UEFI based POST Test...; no command listed in any |
| 21:41.08 | Craigwd_2000 | their PDFs some I'm honestly quite stumped... |
| 21:41.12 | nyov | maybe the old make install target tells you what got moved where |
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| 21:41.59 | Tobbe__ | can't remember what options I used to configure when I installed it... |
| 21:42.14 | Craigwd_2000 | so I'm* |
| 21:42.35 | Tobbe__ | found the git binary... it's a start :) |
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| 21:44.33 | nyov | Tobbe__: this is probably the best reason why most people would rather build a custom package than installing something from source/make install on thir box ;) |
| 21:44.56 | Tobbe__ | yes |
| 21:44.57 | nyov | at least the ppl here I'd think |
| 21:46.01 | nyov | Tobbe__: fwiw you can probably just install the new git package and it will overwrite what isn't tracked by dpkg |
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| 21:47.01 | Tobbe__ | if apt installs to the same location I did |
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| 21:47.10 | babilen | Tobbe__: I also found stow to come in handy when you install locally compiled software. -- /msg dpkg stow -- /msg dpkg stow usage -- /msg dpkg usrlocal |
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| 21:48.14 | babilen | Tobbe__: (not that this helps you right now, but keep it in mind for the future) |
| 21:48.17 | alkisg_web | Hi, I installed Wheezy and _then_ I found out that my nvidia MX 4000 graphics card is only supported up to Squeeze. Can I install this package to Wheezy, or do I have to downgrade? http://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx |
| 21:48.44 | Tobbe__ | babilen: I think I'll just stick to apt in the future :) |
| 21:48.58 | nyov | babilen: looks nice, maybe debian should advertise something like that for the "from-source crowd"? |
| 21:49.37 | craigevil | alkisg_web, yes you can pull nvidia packages from sid to testing just be careful to watch what it wants to upgrade/install, use aptitude |
| 21:50.26 | alkisg_web | Thank you craigevil , trying it... |
| 21:50.36 | babilen | Tobbe__: Sure, but not every single piece of software out there has been packaged. But yeah, use Debian's packages for everything that is. |
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| 21:51.33 | nyov | too many "howtos" on howtoforge et al. concerning "how to install x on debian" come with the lines "make" and "make install". quite hilarious at times |
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| 21:51.51 | frostfire | I need assistance getting my box online |
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| 21:52.04 | nyov | frostfire: shoot |
| 21:52.05 | babilen | nyov: You'll still have to make sure that you get security updates and that the software is integrated into the system. It makes local installations easy, but it is in no way enough to be usable by the "from the source crowd". There are other distributions out there that are much better suited for them. |
| 21:52.37 | nyov | babilen: right. full ack. |
| 21:52.54 | frostfire | I recently installed a fresh copy of 6.0 (squeeze) ont my desktop, as i wish to use it as a server. I perfromed an install without a desktop environment as well as with ssh and a web server |
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| 21:53.33 | frostfire | So, I only have a prompt displayed and no internet connection. |
| 21:53.38 | babilen | nyov: Yeah, that (the tutorial thing) is true (sad though). I blame it on the immediate gratifacation you receive by solving it that way -- the pain and problems are delayed. (cf. Tobbe__) |
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| 21:54.04 | frostfire | I am currently on an ubuntu live cd hoping to download what i need through it and transfer it to my hd with debian |
| 21:54.23 | craigevil | only thing even close to 'from source' in 7 yrs of running debian was installing nvidia drivers, and wireless, and these days dkms takes care of that |
| 21:54.48 | th0r | frostfire: you should be able to bring up the interface using ifconfig, ifup and ifdown. If you want it to come up on boot you define it in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 21:55.20 | frostfire | yeah, i cant run those commands. |
| 21:55.35 | frostfire | If i could, i wouldnt be going through the route im taking |
| 21:55.40 | th0r | frostfire: all those need root access |
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| 21:55.59 | frostfire | Is it e4ven possible to download what i need through my live cd and transfer it to my debian hd? |
| 21:56.42 | nyov | babilen: indeed, but I always wonder why they name it ".. on debian" then. because there are some apt line involved versus rpm ones? meh |
| 21:56.56 | nyov | *lines |
| 21:56.57 | craigevil | first look in /etc/network/interfaces and see if the correct interface is listed |
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| 21:57.26 | craigevil | frostfire, and take a look at /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 22:02.01 | nyov | frostfire: if you really can't run those commands you might be missing ifupdown package and maybe other important ones |
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| 22:02.11 | frostfire | i am |
| 22:02.14 | frostfire | I need to get them |
| 22:02.14 | eden21 | help, there's is no sound in miro |
| 22:04.15 | th0r | frostfire: are you trying to run those commands using sudo or are you logged in as root? They reside in /usr/sbin so it isn't in the path for anyone but root |
| 22:04.22 | frostfire | sudo |
| 22:04.27 | frostfire | ah |
| 22:04.29 | frostfire | ok |
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| 22:05.02 | th0r | frostfire: if you use su to change to root...make sure you use 'su -' |
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| 22:05.29 | frostfire | ok |
| 22:05.56 | frostfire | Well, i should be able to gain internet conenction now, but I still need to enable wireless |
| 22:06.11 | th0r | frostfire: iwconfig |
| 22:06.32 | frostfire | from what ive read i need the ath5k driver, wpa-supplicant, and wireless-tools |
| 22:06.49 | alkisg_web | I'm trying to install http://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx to my wheezy, and I'm getting this: http://paste.debian.net/121637/ |
| 22:06.57 | alkisg_web | I should downgrade instead, right? |
| 22:07.30 | alkisg_web | (I mean, to install squeeze from scratch...) |
| 22:07.36 | frostfire | th0r: Ive l\only used iwconfig for information purposes. does it handle wpa? |
| 22:07.50 | eden21 | Can someone help me get sound on Miro? |
| 22:08.09 | th0r | frostfire: my atheros wifi came up on install, so I think the correct modules are available at install. But wpa and wireless tools you might need to install. And I think iwconfig will handle the wpa, but it does require wpa-supplicant |
| 22:08.30 | frostfire | ok, thank you |
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| 22:19.52 | Tobbe__ | I just tried to update to squeeze from lenny. Asked dpkg (chan bot) about it, as the topic said. But get the following error "E: Couldn't find package linux-image-0.8.0". What to do? |
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| 22:21.58 | babilen | Tobbe__: You better follow the release notes -- I guess that the sed command went wrong on your box. You basically need to upgrade your kernel to the version in squeeze. |
| 22:22.02 | Hazuki | Does anyone here have experience with "push scanning?" Meaning, a networked scanner scanning images to a samba share |
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| 22:22.58 | Hazuki | we've got a Canon ImageRunner 2200 (and a 2270 in the other office). The 2270 used to be able to see the share on one of the machines automatically |
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| 22:23.14 | Hazuki | but a recent update of Ubuntu (the boss will let me change this for Debian soon) seems to have broken that |
| 22:23.56 | nyov | Hazuki: better ask the ubuntu crowd about that then? |
| 22:24.26 | babilen | Hazuki: Hmm, not much we can do at this time. Better ask #samba or #ubuntu-server about it. (#ubuntu might be worth a try too) |
| 22:24.28 | Hazuki | we all know Ubuntu is the ancient Zulu word for "Can't work the Debian install" :) and I'm sitting in the office with the 2200 on a Debian machine |
| 22:24.34 | Hazuki | okay, thanks |
| 22:24.41 | nyov | Hazuki: manually, from a computer, verify the share is accessible and writeable |
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| 22:25.06 | Hazuki | Done already. It is accessible and I can even use mkdir and such from the smb prompt |
| 22:25.13 | Hazuki | works remotely too :) |
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| 22:25.43 | babilen | Hazuki: And I've never played with that -- ImageRunners are nice machines, but I never scanned to a samba share and you are not at all using Debian. Better ask the samba/ubuntu people. Good luck! |
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| 22:25.45 | Kurdistan | hey! |
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| 22:26.13 | Hazuki | babilen: I'm in the office with the 2200 and sitting at a Debian box right now |
| 22:26.24 | Kurdistan | is debian stable repos much older pack. compare to testing etc? |
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| 22:26.30 | nyov | Hazuki: so you're testing with a debian samba? confused |
| 22:26.36 | babilen | Hazuki: Ah, ok. You are testing the setup for the time after the switch? |
| 22:26.41 | Hazuki | yes :) |
| 22:26.54 | babilen | Hazuki: You confused me for a second there. |
| 22:27.02 | Hazuki | This office: iR2200/Debian. Other office: 2270/Ubuntu-to-be-Debian |
| 22:27.03 | dvs | Kurdistan: not right now |
| 22:27.03 | jhutchins_lt | Hazuki: Essentially "push scanning" either mounts the remote share, or does something like an smbclient copy without actually mounting. Depends on the scanner. |
| 22:27.11 | babilen | Hazuki: I see :) |
| 22:27.20 | jhutchins_lt | Hazuki: Requires that the scanner have enough of an OS that it acts as a client. |
| 22:27.33 | Hazuki | jhutchins: Aha...okay, so I KNOW the 2270 does that, I've seen it in action |
| 22:27.56 | Kurdistan | dvs: didnt really understand |
| 22:28.09 | Kurdistan | so it´s up to date? |
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| 22:28.19 | Hazuki | So, the samba share is accessible...somehow I need to poke the 2200 and figure out how to point it at the share then> |
| 22:28.20 | dvs | Kurdistan: stable and testing are fairly close right now. |
| 22:28.49 | jhutchins_lt | dvs: Um, there were some 4000 changes the first week of the new testing, I wouldn't say they're close. |
| 22:28.55 | Kurdistan | dvs is it like that always or just right now? |
| 22:29.03 | babilen | I wouldn't say that as well. |
| 22:29.33 | nyov | Hazuki: if you are bold enough to test with wireshark, I find it easier to debug such things by looking at what runs through the wire |
| 22:29.50 | jhutchins_lt | Kurdistan: Stable packages have been much more thoroughly tested and bugs found and patched. |
| 22:29.53 | Kurdistan | how stable is testing compare to ubuntu stable (not ubuntu 11.04 more like maverick/lucid). |
| 22:29.55 | Hazuki | nyov: whoo, hacktools :) But I don't even know what to look for in this case |
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| 22:30.22 | Hazuki | Kurdistan: In my experience, running Testing right now, it's about as up to date as non ~arch Gentoo and hasn't crashed on me yet |
| 22:30.25 | craig_ | more than a 6 month difference between stable and testing |
| 22:30.25 | nyov | Hazuki: but then there's the "listening in?" concern. at the office.. hmm :P |
| 22:30.29 | jhutchins_lt | Kurdistan: They're very different approaches to stability. |
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| 22:30.50 | Hazuki | remember Debian is conservative-minded distro. so, "testing" is no worse than most modern distributions I would say |
| 22:30.53 | Kurdistan | jhutchins_lt: thx for the info. |
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| 22:31.17 | Hazuki | pokes her printer-scanner-faxer-thing >> |
| 22:31.18 | jhutchins_lt | Kurdistan: Ubuntu generally takes a set of packages, semi-freezes them, debugs for six months and releases fixed or not. |
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| 22:31.52 | Kurdistan | okey. so with debian stable it is stable :). |
| 22:32.06 | jhutchins_lt | Kurdistan: Debian has a process for updating and testing the packages. When a certain level of bug-free quality is reached, it's frozen, debugged, and when the release critical bugs drop low enough it releases. |
| 22:32.45 | Hazuki | Kurdistan: Debian testing is like a well-updated Ubuntu, though it seems to be "rolling release" and is therefore more like Arch or Gentoo in terms of package newness |
| 22:32.46 | jhutchins_lt | Kurdistan: Unlike the "next" release of a distro like Ubuntu, testing reallly isn't a release yet, and sid never is. |
| 22:33.08 | Kurdistan | that is really good. I will in near future try debian or debian based system (already running buntu). |
| 22:33.11 | jhutchins_lt | It's also possible for a known breakage to enter testing in order to work it out. |
| 22:33.50 | jhutchins_lt | So it's possible for what appears to be a "stable" install of testing to break on any given upgrade. |
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| 22:33.57 | Kurdistan | so I only need to add repos to get from stable to testing? |
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| 22:34.13 | Kurdistan | or do I need to download new live-iso? |
| 22:34.38 | lapsusbrutus | Kurdistan: Id use wheezy for desktop :) and stable for server |
| 22:34.52 | Kurdistan | :) rolling release me like. |
| 22:35.15 | Kurdistan | dont like to reinstall every 6 month |
| 22:35.29 | hopper7 | ^^ that's what I misst about windows... |
| 22:35.38 | lapsusbrutus | :p |
| 22:35.52 | nyov | Kurdistan:you don't have to reinstall debian every 6 months :P |
| 22:36.13 | Black_Prince | I reinstall debian much more often heh ... (because I'm bored or I screw something up) |
| 22:36.16 | Hazuki | runs Gentoo on any machine she can: her lappy and the two corporate servers |
| 22:36.20 | Kurdistan | how can I fast write names here? |
| 22:36.26 | Hazuki | and yes I know Gentoo well enough to use it in production |
| 22:36.44 | hopper7 | nyov: you're not bored, you just got used to reinstallation over and over again |
| 22:37.12 | Black_Prince | I guess that was meant to me .. |
| 22:37.16 | nyov | hopper7: me? i don't do reinstalls |
| 22:37.33 | lapsusbrutus | stockholm syndrome... |
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| 22:38.12 | lapsusbrutus | missing to reinstall :p |
| 22:38.16 | rawtt | does any know if 100BASE-TX can output 200mbps simultaneonasly? |
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| 22:38.44 | rawtt | 100 for upstream, 100 for downstream, simultaneonasly |
| 22:38.55 | rawtt | ? |
| 22:38.55 | casts | the term is full duplex |
| 22:39.07 | rawtt | or just duplex |
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| 22:39.37 | Hazuki | rawtt: I believe it does by definition. (full-)duplex just means it can send and receive at the same time |
| 22:40.01 | lapsusbrutus | half duplex? :) |
| 22:40.18 | Kurdistan | thx guys/girls for the info |
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| 22:44.18 | nyov | Hazuki: we encountered some gentoo varnish cache servers at a company. and they were done by an gentoo "expert" from what I could tell. except they suddenly performed much better after migrating to opensuse (of all things) |
| 22:44.42 | Hazuki | nyov: Ah, nothing so complicated here :) Just Apache, Postfix, and so on |
| 22:45.00 | nyov | now i'm no gentoo expert. but I also don't buy into the source advantage |
| 22:45.10 | nyov | :P |
| 22:45.21 | Hazuki | said expert probably forgot to set the latency parameters in the kernel and kept the timer at 1000 Hz or something equally dumb |
| 22:45.25 | casts | nyov: a while ago someone benchmarked debian vs gentoo vs something else, i recall debian winning :D |
| 22:45.57 | Hazuki | in my experience all distros are about the same in modern machines. i just like Gentoo because i'm a control freak, and it was my first distro |
| 22:46.00 | nyov | Hazuki: could be any number of things. |
| 22:46.54 | simonlnu | !gentoosmite foo |
| 22:46.54 | dpkg | spends 5 days recompiling foo, and when it's all done, foo runs 0.9% faster than previously |
| 22:47.33 | Black_Prince | !install gentoo |
| 22:47.33 | dpkg | It takes three commands to install Gentoo: http://bash.org/?464385 |
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| 22:50.05 | th0r | dpkg: config, make and make install? |
| 22:50.06 | dpkg | th0r: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 23:01.55 | clinton5 | hi! |
| 23:02.44 | andantino | i just reinstalled debian squeeze and i cant remember the line i have to add to my software sources in order to connect to backports |
| 23:03.04 | clinton5 | does anybody knows about some work in awk running in debian stable? |
| 23:03.49 | Black_Prince | !backports |
| 23:03.49 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>, <volatile>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 23:07.39 | clinton5 | nevermind |
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| 23:12.42 | tharkun | Is there a cups comand like postsuper -r ALL ? |
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| 23:18.29 | nyov | tharkun: meaning what? reprinting all saved 'done' jobs? |
| 23:19.11 | tharkun | nyov: requeueing all the stuck jobs on the print queue |
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| 23:20.51 | nyov | tharkun: are they not automatically continued after the printer comes back online? maybe my cups knowledge is getting rusty :/ |
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| 23:27.32 | tharkun | nyov: they have been stuck for something over 6 hours. The printer is back on line but the jobs are stuck on the initial server |
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| 23:29.18 | Kevin` | I have a problem compiling linux: http://pastebin.com/TtRTsGHk |
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| 23:30.12 | thepro4ever | what is the shortcut to switch between terminal tabs in debian? |
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| 23:30.21 | dvs | !tell Kevin` about kp |
| 23:30.40 | Ziber | thepro4ever: you can make your own in preferences. |
| 23:30.50 | Kevin` | dvs: if you say so, but I think the problem is a bit lower level |
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| 23:31.10 | tharkun | thepro4ever: terminal dependent |
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| 23:31.42 | tharkun | ctr-shift-pgup|pgdwn might be |
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| 23:31.59 | tharkun | %kp |
| 23:31.59 | dselect | [kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
| 23:32.11 | tharkun | Kevin`: ^^ |
| 23:32.41 | Kevin` | tharkun: if you say so, but I think the problem is a bit lower level |
| 23:33.26 | Kevin` | it will take a few minutes to try that, since the system is running under qemu right now |
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| 23:34.17 | tharkun | Kevin`: kvm might be usefull for you |
| 23:34.33 | Kevin` | kvm only runs x86 guests :( |
| 23:37.01 | nyov | tharkun: maybe you can lpmove them to the same printer again? just a thought, no cups env to test |
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| 23:38.24 | tharkun | nyov: thanks i'll try that |
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| 23:39.44 | Kevin` | dvs: tharkun the first step listed in that is make menuconfig, which gives the same error |
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| 23:42.40 | lotus-blade | Is there a way to install 2 different drivers into the kernel? I have an nvidia onboard which I finally got working and an ati radeon 9250 |
| 23:42.45 | tharkun | Kevin`: what arch are you trying to compile the kernel for? |
| 23:42.57 | Kevin` | tharkun: mips |
| 23:42.58 | lotus-blade | I want to get the dual screens running |
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| 23:44.39 | yakamo | hi have a computer with debian squeeze and its cli only, how do i disable screen blanking |
| 23:44.42 | yakamo | ? |
| 23:44.59 | Kevin` | yakamo: setterm -blank 0, iirc |
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| 23:45.22 | yakamo | Kevin`: awesome will try that out now d00d cheers |
| 23:45.32 | Kevin` | hopefully with an lcd or similar screen that won't (permanently) burn-in? :) |
| 23:45.35 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 23:46.29 | yakamo | Kevin`: will that be it set even after a reboot |
| 23:46.49 | Kevin` | yakamo: no |
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| 23:46.59 | tharkun | .bashrc |
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| 23:47.25 | nsadmin | TrueDD. hi |
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| 23:47.46 | nsadmin | wait, you say something other than "gnite"?!! |
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| 23:48.04 | yakamo | Kevin`: ok, now i have a lead ill google the rest thanks for the help |
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| 23:49.12 | TrueDD | hi nsadmin |
| 23:49.55 | TrueDD | nsadmin, it depends on when I get in :) |
| 23:51.10 | TrueDD | nsadmin, that's right that I usually rather say "gnite" that this time |
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| 23:52.00 | nsadmin | it's just that it's been months and nver saw you say anything else yet |
| 23:52.41 | TrueDD | I bet that you're one of those who thought that I was a bot :) |
| 23:52.52 | tharkun | Kevin`: have you picked inside the make scipt? Have you taken a look at gcc bts for any hint? |
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| 23:53.53 | Kevin` | tharkun: no, but i'll probably get to that shortly. I hate tracing makefiles :( |
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| 23:55.03 | nsadmin | I dunno if I considered bot as a possibility, but this is the most posting for you ever (afaict) |
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| 23:56.16 | nsadmin | this is a record... |
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| 23:56.39 | nsadmin | slaps TrueDD five and hands him a beer |
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| 23:56.47 | TrueDD | :D |
| 23:57.29 | TrueDD | thanks nsadmin and slaps him five |
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| 23:58.31 | bst | Please help fornow , couldn't decide whether to stay or go. :) |
| 23:58.32 | nsadmin | sips water... the good stuff! |
