| 00:00.06 | jelly-home | lechienkitu: log out, choose a different locale on the graphical logjn screen (assuming you have one) |
| 00:00.09 | ejsejs | nyov: well is my router a dhcp server? |
| 00:00.27 | lechienkitu | jelly-home: okay. I do it. |
| 00:00.53 | nyov | ejsejs: I can't say. if it's a box you got from your ISP, probably |
| 00:01.32 | ejsejs | nyov: okay, wel how would i set up the network interfaces |
| 00:02.39 | nyov | ejsejs: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 00:02.52 | nyov | look for configuring manually |
| 00:03.35 | nyov | the rest it not important to read right now, just advanced things |
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| 00:04.11 | lechienk1tu | Okay, that work. Thanks you. |
| 00:04.27 | lechienk1tu | I will be here for read you and learn english :p |
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| 00:08.10 | tonytraductor | anybody here have experience with a crappy att/gateway 2wire modem/router? |
| 00:08.26 | tonytraductor | I need to open port 22 to this machine so I can admin remotely, and the router interface is driving me nuts |
| 00:08.27 | LinuxGuy2009 | I would like to download and burn a copy of the entire debian wiki if possible for use on an offline machine. What tool can I use to do this? |
| 00:08.59 | vlt | LinuxGuy2009: wget |
| 00:09.03 | ikonia | tonytraductor: contact the router vendor as you where told in the other channels you where asking |
| 00:09.05 | ejsejs | thanks nyov, I'll try it |
| 00:09.20 | ikonia | tonytraductor: I'm sure they have a mailing list, support forum, email, or even phone support service |
| 00:09.29 | vlt | LinuxGuy2009: Look at the "-r" option. |
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| 00:10.40 | LinuxGuy2009 | vlt: Thank you. |
| 00:12.16 | ejsejs | nyov: what "configuring manually" section? |
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| 00:16.23 | nyov | ejsejs: 1.2. Configuring the interface manually |
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| 00:17.15 | Cain | misses dpkg :'( |
| 00:19.41 | nyov | dmesg gone too. uh, hi apt :p |
| 00:20.16 | lechienk1tu | why gcc is not installed on debian ? |
| 00:20.27 | lechienk1tu | after installation.. :/ |
| 00:20.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | dselect: and judd are still here |
| 00:20.40 | dselect | kamping_kaiser, you probably want to address that to judd, not to me. (Hint: leave off the ! in your command -- that's there to grab my attention not judd's) |
| 00:20.40 | nyov | lechienk1tu: because you didn't install it? |
| 00:20.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | dselect: install it |
| 00:20.57 | dselect | Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 00:22.20 | lechienk1tu | nyov: why ? |
| 00:22.20 | nyov | Kamping_Kaiser: oh wow i mixed up dselect with dmesg there. wtf |
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| 00:22.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | nyov: hehe |
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| 00:22.20 | nyov | lechienk1tu: because you usually don't need it |
| 00:22.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | dselect: b-e |
| 00:22.20 | dselect | somebody said build-essential was a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages. If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package. Ask me about <qotd49>. |
| 00:22.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | lechienk1tu: you'll probably want that ^^ |
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| 00:22.20 | lechienk1tu | And, firt debian install I havn't internet and it is no good.. But with internet ut works.. that no cool :( |
| 00:22.35 | nyov | lechienk1tu: get a bigger install iso then, I'd say, not netinstall |
| 00:22.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | and or grab the 8 dvds for offline use |
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| 00:23.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | and or build your own debian mirror |
| 00:23.13 | lechienk1tu | with netinstall it complete |
| 00:23.17 | lechienk1tu | without ... |
| 00:24.19 | lechienk1tu | now what no completed that my english.. So sorry if I'm not comprehensible |
| 00:26.19 | nyov | Kamping_Kaiser: :P that's like hunting insects with rocketlaunchers |
| 00:26.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | lechienk1tu: i'm not entirely sure what your complaint is tbh |
| 00:26.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | nyov: aw, but its so fun! |
| 00:27.02 | nyov | :D |
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| 00:28.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | :) |
| 00:28.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | realises this is helpful, but not furthering his day (aka, trying to generate kernel udebs) |
| 00:28.45 | lechienk1tu | Kamping_Kaiser: what ? tbh ? |
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| 00:28.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | i should probably be off... bbl :) |
| 00:29.06 | guvnor | is this still a party channel? |
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| 00:30.47 | winter | guvnor: yeah, lets party :))) |
| 00:31.01 | guvnor | lol |
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| 00:35.31 | winter | guvnor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7sFZQiEHJ4 |
| 00:37.01 | ejsejs | hey! I managed to get onto my shell server. Whenever I try apt-get install something, it doesn't do anything, but my internet clearly works |
| 00:37.48 | ejsejs | you still there nyov ? |
| 00:38.16 | nyov | ejsejs: yeah |
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| 00:38.46 | nyov | ejsejs: check your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:39.05 | ejsejs | nyov: yeah, there's entries there, and all. |
| 00:39.27 | guvnor | winter, lol |
| 00:39.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | ejsejs: in what way doesn't do anything? |
| 00:39.47 | ejsejs | security.debian.org |
| 00:40.13 | ejsejs | E: Unable to locate package screen |
| 00:40.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | run apt-get update ? |
| 00:40.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | *have you run |
| 00:40.56 | ejsejs | just did, same error, Kamping_Kaiser |
| 00:41.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | ejsejs: please pastebin the full error |
| 00:41.20 | ejsejs | Kamping_Kaiser: How can I? |
| 00:41.25 | ejsejs | I don't even have a gui |
| 00:41.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | dselect: pastebinit |
| 00:41.32 | dselect | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". |
| 00:42.10 | ejsejs | yeah....about that... |
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| 00:42.19 | ejsejs | I'll just copy it |
| 00:42.25 | ejsejs | apt-get install screen |
| 00:42.32 | ejsejs | Reading package lists....done |
| 00:42.46 | ejsejs | Building Dependency tree |
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| 00:42.55 | ejsejs | Reading state information...done |
| 00:43.06 | ejsejs | E: unale to locate package screen |
| 00:43.21 | ejsejs | that's it |
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| 00:44.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | please pastebin your sources.list and anything in sources.list.d |
| 00:44.49 | ejsejs | Kamping_Kaiser: ....wow. |
| 00:45.06 | ejsejs | I have no browser. |
| 00:45.09 | ejsejs | I have no gui |
| 00:45.14 | ejsejs | And I can't install things |
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| 00:45.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | do you have wget and dpkg? |
| 00:45.52 | ejsejs | Kamping_Kaiser: yes |
| 00:46.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | pastebinit is here http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pastebinit/pastebinit_1.1-2_all.deb |
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| 00:47.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | and yes, it was reasonably stupidof me not to notice you couldn't install anything (sorry about that) |
| 00:47.53 | ejsejs | its fine |
| 00:48.55 | ejsejs | Kamping_Kaiser: installing isn't working. Can you do me a favor and google sprunge for me? its a command line pastebin, all it needsis an alias |
| 00:49.22 | Sary | sprunge.us |
| 00:49.29 | Sary | nice tool. |
| 00:49.57 | ejsejs | ah, thanks. I got the alias from wget |
| 00:50.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | Sary: beat me :) |
| 00:50.33 | Sary | Kamping_Kaiser: :) |
| 00:51.25 | ejsejs | neverind, I don't have curl either. |
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| 00:52.01 | Sary | can you sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 00:52.45 | ejsejs | Sary: I don't have a gui, nevermind gedit, but yeah, I can open it easily with nano |
| 00:53.15 | Sary | and make sure deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main is uncomment and deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 00:53.36 | Sary | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main , as well. |
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| 00:54.51 | ejsejs | Sary: can I use us instead of uk? |
| 00:54.55 | Sary | I guess you can also install a text based web browser , lynx or w3m. |
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| 00:55.20 | Sary | Yeah, of course .. the above is what i use. |
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| 00:56.40 | Sary | Kamping_Kaiser: :) excise me if i jumped in and take over .. just thought i can give you a hand there. |
| 00:56.58 | ejsejs | Sary: that squeeze-updates main...is that supposed to be a slash? |
| 00:57.29 | Sary | ejsejs: correct. |
| 00:57.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | Sary: no problem - i'm getting some of the stuff i shoud be doing done ;) |
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| 00:58.01 | Sary | Kamping_Kaiser: cool cool :) |
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| 00:59.21 | ejsejs | Sary: Okay, I did apt-get update, and I got some errors |
| 00:59.40 | Sary | ejsejs: No! |
| 00:59.53 | Sary | can you pasebin em |
| 01:00.07 | ejsejs | again, no, I can't sary |
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| 01:00.32 | Sary | use /query on me and paste them there |
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| 01:04.57 | nyov | ejsejs: some errors? about what? |
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| 01:05.38 | ejsejs | nyov: 404 error when retrievin packags |
| 01:06.10 | nyov | ejsejs: your lines must be wrong. or try another mirror |
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| 01:15.51 | sigbond | hi |
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| 01:43.37 | blackshirt | wew |
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| 01:44.15 | lechienk1tu | what ? That the "1054" users who does this effect ? :p |
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| 01:47.26 | id10t | is upset because deb 64 cds won't boot on his system |
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| 01:48.50 | nyov | poor id10t :( |
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| 01:49.30 | originalnick | id10t: it happens to the best of us. I know that amd64 BSD doesn't run on my system even though amd64 is indeed supported. |
| 01:50.27 | occupant | anyone know if it's possible to use ati discrete graphics simultaneously with intel integrated or can that just not happen? |
| 01:50.37 | occupant | trying to get triple-head going without too much expense |
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| 01:51.03 | nyov | occupant: i believe it should be possible |
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| 01:52.21 | occupant | With either one set as primary, the other seems to not be recognized. If I control-alt-F1, it uses the integrated port to display the terminal, but clt-alt-F7 puts me back in X on the radeon |
| 01:52.29 | occupant | so both of them are working to some degree, just not all together in X |
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| 01:54.23 | nyov | ok, that I don't know then |
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| 01:55.58 | nyov | id10t: you sure, you haven't fetched the wrong discs? |
| 01:56.18 | nyov | id10t: you know ia64 won't run on amd64, right? |
| 01:58.26 | id10t | nyov: yeah. i've got a intel i5-650 cpu and the debian ia64 cds just lock up as soon as the bios stuff is done |
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| 01:59.18 | id10t | nyov: and to make it worse, to run it in 32bit needs noapic and nolapic in order to boot... which for some reason takes away the multi core stuff |
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| 01:59.33 | id10t | nyov: so yeah, i'm not really happy w/ my hw at the moment |
| 01:59.44 | nyov | id10t: have you tried running a live cd? |
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| 02:00.11 | id10t | nyov: yeah, but only 32 bit and i need the noapic/nolapic to make it happen |
| 02:00.17 | nyov | id10t: i just told you ia64 won't run on amd64 :P |
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| 02:00.33 | id10t | nyov: i don't have amd |
| 02:00.59 | tuv | what is the easiest way to fill a scanned form (image from hard copy)? anything more convenient than GIMP? |
| 02:00.59 | nyov | id10t: ok, wait. let me check that cpu %) |
| 02:01.10 | id10t | nyov: intel i5-650 |
| 02:01.24 | id10t | nyov: 3.2ghz 2 core |
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| 02:01.59 | id10t | tuv: print it, fill it in, rescan it |
| 02:02.37 | id10t | nyov: yeah, sure on the right isos. and md5sums are good |
| 02:03.04 | id10t | nyov: just whining really... i think it is a hw issue since i've read lots of good stuff about this mobo in linux |
| 02:03.12 | id10t | nyov: but if you have any ideas, feel free |
| 02:04.45 | nyov | id10t: that does look like amd64 architecture to me |
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| 02:06.23 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 02:06.41 | lenswipe | what do i need to install to create an email server? |
| 02:06.51 | nyov | %ia64 |
| 02:06.52 | dselect | Intel Architecture-64 (IA-64) is a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as <Itanium> and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>. |
| 02:07.20 | lenswipe | i know postfix, dovecot, sendmail and procmail are all available but im not sure which(if not all of them) i need or what does what |
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| 02:08.23 | id10t | lenswipe: nyov thanks. make me smakc myself for not rtfm-ing close enough |
| 02:08.40 | ejsejs | I cant seem to get my wireless applet thing to work |
| 02:08.46 | ejsejs | I just installed debian |
| 02:08.54 | lenswipe | ejsejs, restricted drivers? |
| 02:08.57 | ejsejs | there does not seem to be a network choosin thing |
| 02:09.01 | gnarface | i think someone needs to update that ia64 note to include i3/i5/i7 right? |
| 02:09.12 | gnarface | since they're actually amd64 as well |
| 02:09.17 | gnarface | but the naming is a bit misleading to noobs... |
| 02:09.19 | ejsejs | lenswipe: do I need that? |
| 02:09.20 | nyov | lenswipe: the easy way? get iRedMail |
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| 02:09.30 | lenswipe | nyov, what the crap is that? |
| 02:09.43 | nyov | gnarface: but dpkg is gone, and dselect is read-only |
| 02:09.45 | lenswipe | ejsejs, i dont know depends on your hardware, check the restricted drivers thingy under admin |
| 02:10.02 | nyov | lenswipe: iredmail.org |
| 02:10.29 | lenswipe | nyov, how easy is it to configure? |
| 02:10.50 | nyov | lenswipe: the harder way, http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze |
| 02:11.08 | Black_Prince | There is no such thing as "restricted drivers thingy" in Debian |
| 02:11.18 | lenswipe | Black_Prince, k |
| 02:11.33 | ejsejs | lenswipe: "under admin"? |
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| 02:11.41 | lenswipe | ejsejs, forget it |
| 02:11.42 | lenswipe | ejsejs, aparently im wrong |
| 02:11.44 | ejsejs | okay =/ |
| 02:11.47 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, how did you install Debian? |
| 02:11.51 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: CD |
| 02:12.03 | lenswipe | Black_Prince, he used the restricted drivers thingy in debian |
| 02:12.04 | Black_Prince | netinst or cd1 ? |
| 02:12.05 | ejsejs | But I just installed gnome via command line |
| 02:12.17 | ejsejs | netinst was in the iso image |
| 02:12.38 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, did you install wireless-tools, wpasupplicant and network-manager-gnome or wicd? |
| 02:13.33 | ejsejs | I just installed network-manager-gnome, Black_Prince |
| 02:13.49 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, relogin into your gnome session |
| 02:13.57 | ejsejs | alright, hold on |
| 02:14.27 | Black_Prince | holds on |
| 02:15.08 | Black_Prince | also, are you using usb or pci wireless? |
| 02:15.25 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: the applet is there, but it doesnt even say I'm plugged in |
| 02:15.38 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, answer the question above |
| 02:15.39 | ejsejs | usb? I'm not using usb. I don't know what pci is |
| 02:15.49 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, do lspci -nn | grep -i net |
| 02:16.02 | Black_Prince | what does the output say? |
| 02:16.20 | ejsejs | 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8171] (rev 10) |
| 02:16.21 | ejsejs | 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02) |
| 02:16.28 | Black_Prince | judd pciid 10ec:8171 |
| 02:16.29 | judd | [10ec:8171] is 'RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8171 |
| 02:16.49 | ejsejs | That doesn't sound good |
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| 02:18.56 | Black_Prince | dselect rtl8192se |
| 02:18.57 | dselect | The Realtek RTL8191SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8171, 10ec:8172) and RTL8192SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8173, 10ec:8174, some 10ec:8192) are PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192se) is in mainline since Linux 3.0-rc1, enabled in Debian kernel images at linux-2.6 3.0.0~rc1-1~experimental.1. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin) and currently not packaged (Debian bug #609784), ask me about <linux-firmware> to acquire. |
| 02:19.23 | dvs | 3.0 rc1? |
| 02:19.29 | dvs | goooood luck |
| 02:19.34 | winter | :-D |
| 02:19.52 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 02:19.55 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.0.0-rc5-686-pae (3.0.0~rc5-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.39-2-686-pae (2.6.39-2); wheezy: 2.6.39-2-686-pae (2.6.39-2); squeeze-backports: 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 (2.6.38-5~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny3) |
| 02:19.57 | winter | ejsejs: use windows with that machine |
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| 02:20.15 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, you can try to get it working with ndiswrapper |
| 02:20.16 | ejsejs | winter: I think I have a driver |
| 02:20.32 | Black_Prince | if you have windows driver for that one ... Also there should be linux one on realtek site iirc |
| 02:20.33 | ejsejs | And I just had ubuntu on this machine |
| 02:20.50 | ejsejs | if it works with ubuntu...it has to work with debian, right? |
| 02:21.03 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, did you had to provide windows drivers? |
| 02:21.23 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: windows drivers? wy would I need a drier for windows on ubuntu? |
| 02:21.41 | Black_Prince | I tought it was used with ndiswrapper |
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| 02:22.08 | ejsejs | I'm not even sure what an ndiswrapper is |
| 02:22.42 | winter | it's a tool that allows using of windows drivers on linux or something |
| 02:22.44 | winter | `g |
| 02:22.52 | winter | ~g |
| 02:22.52 | apt | i heard g is google |
| 02:23.03 | nyov | :p |
| 02:23.16 | winter | ~g ndiswrapper |
| 02:23.18 | winter | `g ndiswrapper |
| 02:23.26 | winter | hum |
| 02:23.38 | winter | g ndiswrapper |
| 02:23.47 | winter | nevermind |
| 02:23.47 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, there is driver on realtek website, but you need to have kernel development headers and compiler to compile it |
| 02:24.38 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: dude, it worked with ubuntu |
| 02:24.48 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, use ubuntu then |
| 02:24.56 | ejsejs | ubuntu is BASED off debian |
| 02:24.57 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, debian is in no way ubuntu |
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| 02:25.08 | Black_Prince | ubuntu is far more unstable and it includes non-free stuff |
| 02:25.10 | ejsejs | would it make sense that if it works on ubuntu, it probably works on debian? |
| 02:25.20 | ejsejs | So I'll install the non-free stuff |
| 02:25.40 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, it is not included in debian ... I told you there is driver that you have to compile by yourself |
| 02:26.03 | ejsejs | Well yes, and I had to install it in ubuntu too |
| 02:26.14 | ejsejs | where is my make? I don't have make on my machine? |
| 02:26.28 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, you have to install it along with kernel headers |
| 02:26.37 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, try to hook it up with ethernet connection |
| 02:27.00 | nyov | what's the problem? did dselect not say it's in firmware-linux? |
| 02:27.01 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: I am on ethernet. |
| 02:27.11 | ejsejs | Also, wehre is make? |
| 02:27.14 | Black_Prince | nyov, it is not firmware, it is driver itself |
| 02:27.25 | Black_Prince | driver is included in 3.0 kernel, not before |
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| 02:27.50 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-2.6-arch (arch = amd64, 686, mips, mipsel, armel etc) |
| 02:27.59 | nyov | ugh, always running latest hardware :P |
| 02:28.09 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: is that to get make? |
| 02:28.15 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, yes |
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| 02:28.29 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, to get everything needed for compiling driver |
| 02:29.15 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: okay, installed |
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| 02:30.06 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, download linux tarball from here http://bit.ly/aO2JsW |
| 02:31.30 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: when i press the download links, it gives me a small blank window |
| 02:31.33 | ejsejs | and nothign happens |
| 02:31.44 | Black_Prince | it should start downloading |
| 02:31.51 | Black_Prince | it may fail if you have noscript or javascript turned off |
| 02:32.01 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: I have neither of those, and nothing is downloading |
| 02:32.05 | ejsejs | do you have the direct link? |
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| 02:32.31 | ejsejs | I'll ust install a new browser i guess |
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| 02:33.51 | DriversFixed | hello. Can someone watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI with flash for me and tell me if they get distortion issues? |
| 02:34.14 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, what browser are you using? |
| 02:35.12 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: I downloaded it just fine with chromium. |
| 02:35.14 | ejsejs | what now? |
| 02:35.19 | lotus-blade | I am trying to get my radeon card to work now after finally getting my nvidia card to work |
| 02:35.31 | ejsejs | this is the same eact driver I was trying to reinstall before |
| 02:35.33 | Black_Prince | alright, open terminal, do tar xf archivename.tar.gz and change to extracted directory |
| 02:35.39 | ejsejs | did |
| 02:35.41 | ejsejs | that |
| 02:35.45 | ejsejs | sorry :P |
| 02:35.52 | lotus-blade | anyone know how to get 2 seperat screens for seperate work spaces? |
| 02:35.53 | Black_Prince | type 'make' |
| 02:36.14 | Black_Prince | without the quotes |
| 02:36.30 | ejsejs | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 02:36.30 | ejsejs | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 02:36.41 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, apt-get install linux-headers-2.6-amd64 |
| 02:37.34 | ejsejs | alriht, making Black_Prince |
| 02:37.57 | ejsejs | done |
| 02:38.06 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, make install as root |
| 02:38.13 | ejsejs | now make install and reboot? |
| 02:38.19 | Black_Prince | do not reboot, just make install |
| 02:38.22 | lechienk1tu | I've a simimal problem whan I want compile aircrack-ng ^^ |
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| 02:38.38 | lechienk1tu | similar* |
| 02:38.56 | ejsejs | installed, Black_Prince |
| 02:38.58 | lechienk1tu | i'll paste it. |
| 02:39.17 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, modprobe r8192se_pci |
| 02:39.31 | lechienk1tu | http://pastebin.com/KkMZ9yT7 |
| 02:39.48 | Black_Prince | lechienk1tu, you need libssl-dev |
| 02:40.10 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, and do iwconfig and paste output |
| 02:40.14 | lechienk1tu | how i can have it ? |
| 02:40.22 | Black_Prince | lechienk1tu, apt-get install libssl-dev |
| 02:40.24 | Black_Prince | as root |
| 02:40.25 | lechienk1tu | with a apt-get, that ok ? :p |
| 02:40.29 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: ! I got a notification that networks were available and I have the applet thing, but I can't connect to them |
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| 02:40.42 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, please, do the following step |
| 02:40.45 | lechienk1tu | i should make as root ? |
| 02:40.55 | Black_Prince | lechienk1tu, not necesary |
| 02:40.57 | blackshirt | no |
| 02:41.02 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: iwconfig: command not found |
| 02:41.09 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, as root please |
| 02:41.13 | ejsejs | as root. |
| 02:41.18 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, install wireless-tools |
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| 02:41.26 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 02:41.39 | blackshirt | but make install you should |
| 02:41.53 | lechienk1tu | .. you speak with two persons.. I confond :p |
| 02:41.58 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: oky, got output. Oen sec |
| 02:42.33 | ejsejs | http://pastebin.com/ABQW0L16 Black_Prince |
| 02:43.10 | lechienk1tu | so, what can i do ? |
| 02:43.18 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, iwconfig wlan0 up |
| 02:43.48 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: unknown command up |
| 02:43.56 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, er ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 02:43.57 | Black_Prince | sorry |
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| 02:44.31 | ejsejs | no output, Black_Prince |
| 02:44.35 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, that's ok |
| 02:44.43 | ejsejs | I figured ;) |
| 02:44.44 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, now check if you can connect via network manager |
| 02:45.16 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: no, I get the menu, and I can click, but nothing happens after that |
| 02:45.31 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, paste output of dmesg | tail |
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| 02:45.52 | lechienk1tu | I belive that he works, but "gcc .." while |
| 02:45.57 | lechienk1tu | oO |
| 02:46.11 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: http://pastebin.com/F78eNtY5 |
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| 02:46.36 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, did you attach any device after doing modprobe thing? |
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| 02:46.43 | lechienk1tu | now it puts "make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/lechienkitu/aircrack-ng-1.1/src' |
| 02:46.59 | jhujhiti | where do i find documentation on the apt directory layout? (ie, all of the possible keys in Release files, etc) |
| 02:47.00 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: not after, but I have my harddrive attached |
| 02:47.03 | dudE | im leaving my server on for 2 weeks, if its just a normal computer with debian... its not guna overheat and catch the place on fire right?? |
| 02:47.10 | ejsejs | its possible it disconnected and reconnected, but I doubt it |
| 02:47.19 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, do just dmesg and paste last 100 lines if necesary |
| 02:47.29 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, the wireless part is important if you can notice it |
| 02:47.35 | ejsejs | dudE: invest in a small laptop fan |
| 02:48.06 | dudE | i cant im leaving tonight and guna be gone for 2 weeks, is our place in danger? |
| 02:48.19 | Black_Prince | dudE, put it in a refrigator :) |
| 02:48.27 | dudE | lol |
| 02:48.41 | Black_Prince | dudE, or in a plexiglass box :P |
| 02:48.47 | lechienk1tu | hum, it's crazy ! It puts "leaving ../src" but it exists |
| 02:48.58 | Black_Prince | lechienk1tu, it is done then |
| 02:49.47 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: http://pastebin.com/fUe59y37 |
| 02:50.09 | ejsejs | dudE: I'm sure you have a fan somewhere in your house |
| 02:50.32 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, your wireless works, there are minor issues with network manager I think. try rebooting |
| 02:50.40 | Black_Prince | I meant wireless adapter |
| 02:50.40 | ejsejs | will do. Be back soon |
| 02:51.08 | lechienk1tu | when i run it as root it works.. >< |
| 02:51.21 | dudE | but would an overheated comp really catch on fire |
| 02:53.10 | dvs | printers can. ;-) |
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| 02:53.16 | bdfoster | dudE, you've got issues before that happens that would render the CPU useless |
| 02:53.26 | dudE | alright |
| 02:53.27 | project2501a | gamei to topkap mexri na pswfisei |
| 02:53.42 | bdfoster | dvs, Ive had the honor of seeing that |
| 02:53.54 | dvs | o_O |
| 02:54.08 | lechienk1tu | Just a little question, no for debian but python. You prefer Py2 or Py3 ? |
| 02:54.40 | project2501a | do i like chocolate or vanilla ice cream? |
| 02:54.57 | lechienk1tu | ... |
| 02:55.17 | lechienk1tu | Because I don't know if I switch to py3 |
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| 02:56.59 | project2501a | lechienk1tu: then please ask precise questions :P |
| 02:57.21 | project2501a | lechienk1tu: ubuntu 9.10 or 10.10 ? |
| 02:57.29 | lechienk1tu | ... |
| 02:57.35 | lechienk1tu | Okay, i've my reponse with you ! |
| 02:57.36 | lechienk1tu | ;p |
| 02:57.51 | project2501a | it's ubuntu, isn' it? |
| 02:58.12 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: hey, i rebooted, but my networking isnt working at all |
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| 02:58.26 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, does iwconfig still show wlan0 ? |
| 02:58.30 | lechienk1tu | but for exemple, with C language, I can say that C89 is better that C99 for some peoples |
| 02:58.31 | ejsejs | it asked for my password, but it wont connect |
| 02:58.40 | ejsejs | not even with eternet |
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| 02:59.15 | project2501a | lechienk1tu: why? |
| 02:59.16 | lechienk1tu | project2501a: my english is low... so I say shit :p |
| 02:59.17 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, network manager is screwed. purge it and install wicd for wireless. For wired just do dhclient eth0 to get dynamic address |
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| 02:59.50 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: wlan0 is up, i think |
| 02:59.52 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, also if you prefer not using any network manager, http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpa_supplicant |
| 03:00.14 | ejsejs | why wont it even let me connect via a cord? |
| 03:00.45 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, I told you network manager is fucked up somehow (don't ask) ... You can look at /var/log/daemon.log for more info |
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| 03:01.05 | ejsejs | =/ alright... |
| 03:01.11 | ejsejs | purgin' |
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| 03:02.12 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: cnetworkmanager, or knetworkmanager? |
| 03:02.18 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, wicd |
| 03:02.21 | ejsejs | also, are you SURE this is what I should be doing? |
| 03:02.23 | ejsejs | NO |
| 03:02.27 | ejsejs | what am I supposed to PURGE |
| 03:02.36 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, network-manager and network-manager-gnome |
| 03:02.48 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, wait a sec, you have knetworkmanager and cnetworkmanager ? |
| 03:03.14 | ejsejs | how should i know? |
| 03:03.21 | Black_Prince | damn |
| 03:03.23 | ejsejs | thats what it said |
| 03:03.28 | Black_Prince | just purge network-manager and network-manager-gnome |
| 03:03.29 | ejsejs | and its deleting network-manager now |
| 03:03.40 | ejsejs | and i have no idea how to get wicd on here |
| 03:03.56 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, you have wired interface right? |
| 03:04.02 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, and it uses dynamic addresses? |
| 03:04.08 | ejsejs | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.20 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, you had one and it used dynamic addresses? |
| 03:04.30 | ejsejs | I don't even know what you're talking about |
| 03:04.36 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, do this as root dhclient eth0 |
| 03:05.02 | ejsejs | nothings happening |
| 03:05.03 | ejsejs | its hanging |
| 03:05.13 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, what does it say? |
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| 03:05.18 | ejsejs | it says nothing |
| 03:05.25 | Black_Prince | is it done? |
| 03:05.27 | ejsejs | its still in the program though |
| 03:05.29 | ejsejs | its not done |
| 03:05.39 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, hit ctrl+c and type dhclient -v eth0 |
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| 03:06.38 | ejsejs | okay...its saying stuff... |
| 03:06.59 | ejsejs | DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 |
| 03:07.02 | ejsejs | is the first one |
| 03:07.13 | ejsejs | theres 4 others, with a diffferent number at the end. 12 11 20 13 |
| 03:07.31 | ejsejs | what do you want to know, Black_Prince ? |
| 03:07.47 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, it does not recieve an ip address? |
| 03:08.09 | ejsejs | what would that line look like? |
| 03:08.17 | ejsejs | it has mac addresses |
| 03:08.29 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, bound to xxx.xxx.xxx.xx renewal in xx seconds |
| 03:08.36 | ejsejs | it doesnt |
| 03:08.48 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, damn. Ok let's get back to wireless |
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| 03:08.56 | ejsejs | alrigt... |
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| 03:09.13 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, as root do this wpa_passphrase youressid > ~/wpa.conf |
| 03:09.23 | ejsejs | wjat |
| 03:09.30 | ejsejs | what's my essid*? |
| 03:09.36 | Black_Prince | the one you are connecting to |
| 03:09.47 | ejsejs | what's an essid? |
| 03:09.48 | Black_Prince | name of router |
| 03:10.10 | Black_Prince | eg "My wireless network" or something like that |
| 03:10.11 | ejsejs | first you tell me to type make without quotes, and now youre assuming i know what this means... |
| 03:10.32 | ejsejs | I don't know..whats the name of my router? |
| 03:10.39 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, you should know |
| 03:10.40 | ejsejs | I'm not even connected t omy router |
| 03:10.58 | ejsejs | I don't even knwo waht you're referrign to. |
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| 03:11.08 | Black_Prince | well, when you saw wireless networks in network manager, what was it written on one you were connecting to? |
| 03:11.18 | ejsejs | the name of the network? |
| 03:11.21 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, yes |
| 03:11.30 | ejsejs | thank you, thats what i needed to know |
| 03:11.37 | Black_Prince | %essid |
| 03:11.37 | dselect | i heard essid is http://www.cryer.co.uk/glossary/e/essid.htm |
| 03:11.56 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: I dont have network-manager though, btw |
| 03:11.58 | ejsejs | I purged it |
| 03:12.03 | ejsejs | so keep that inmind... |
| 03:12.05 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, yeah, just do the command above |
| 03:12.45 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, just for curiosity, does your network name include spaces? like "my network" |
| 03:13.46 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: it doesnt, and wpa_passphrase command not found |
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| 03:14.03 | Black_Prince | argh damn, that's why you couldn't connect to wireless |
| 03:14.17 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, do you have any usb disk/stick or something? |
| 03:14.25 | ejsejs | I have an external harddrive |
| 03:14.30 | ejsejs | and...yeah, a usb too, actually |
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| 03:15.48 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, download these debs |
| 03:15.49 | Black_Prince | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/n/network-manager-applet/network-manager-gnome_0.8.1-2_amd64.deb |
| 03:15.59 | Black_Prince | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_0.8.1-6+squeeze1_amd64.deb |
| 03:16.10 | Black_Prince | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/w/wpasupplicant/wpasupplicant_0.6.10-2.1_i386.deb |
| 03:16.33 | Black_Prince | er last one should be http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/w/wpasupplicant/wpasupplicant_0.6.10-2.1_amd64.deb |
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| 03:17.24 | ejsejs | dloaded, let me find my flash drive |
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| 03:19.51 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: theyre on my computer/ yjr mpm-metworked one |
| 03:19.58 | ejsejs | the non-networked* |
| 03:20.05 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, install them from last to first |
| 03:20.19 | ejsejs | clicking on them just opens them |
| 03:20.29 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, right click -> install with gdebi package manager |
| 03:22.15 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: error, failed to fetch debs |
| 03:22.25 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, excuse me? |
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| 03:22.32 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, error on what package? |
| 03:22.38 | ejsejs | An error occured |
| 03:22.46 | ejsejs | the following details are profivded |
| 03:23.00 | ejsejs | failed to fetch [url]gdebicore.deb |
| 03:23.21 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, open terminal and cd to your usb drive (location where the debs are) |
| 03:23.36 | ejsejs | okay |
| 03:23.41 | Black_Prince | as root |
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| 03:23.53 | ejsejs | iu am root |
| 03:24.02 | Black_Prince | first, dpkg -i wpasupplicant*deb |
| 03:24.50 | ejsejs | both of them? |
| 03:24.51 | ejsejs | okay |
| 03:25.26 | ejsejs | errors were encountered while processing |
| 03:25.42 | Black_Prince | and error says? |
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| 03:26.09 | ejsejs | wpasupplicant_0.6.10-2.fdksfdskngdsf.deb |
| 03:26.12 | ejsejs | wpasupplicant |
| 03:26.27 | ejsejs | first has version number |
| 03:26.28 | ejsejs | second doesnt |
| 03:26.30 | Black_Prince | nothing about dependencies? |
| 03:26.38 | Black_Prince | hey you only needed to download second one |
| 03:26.48 | Black_Prince | this one http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/w/wpasupplicant/wpasupplicant_0.6.10-2.1_amd64.deb |
| 03:27.16 | ejsejs | oh, haha, okay |
| 03:27.23 | ejsejs | well, i stil get the same error |
| 03:27.29 | ejsejs | only with "wpasupplicant" |
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| 03:27.58 | Black_Prince | any other info? |
| 03:28.04 | Black_Prince | dependency error maybe? |
| 03:28.16 | ejsejs | yeah |
| 03:28.22 | Black_Prince | what ones are missing? |
| 03:28.29 | ejsejs | dplg: dependencies problems [prevent configuration of wpasupplicant |
| 03:28.38 | Black_Prince | did you ran apt-get autoremove after removing network manager? |
| 03:28.47 | ejsejs | wpa supp depends on libpcsclite1 however libpcslite is not installed |
| 03:29.10 | ejsejs | so,, i need that |
| 03:29.19 | Black_Prince | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/p/pcsc-lite/libpcsclite1_1.5.5-4_amd64.deb |
| 03:30.01 | ejsejs | alright, let me get this |
| 03:30.50 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, how did you configure wired connection first time? |
| 03:31.37 | ejsejs | i didnt |
| 03:31.45 | ejsejs | oi just isntalled debian |
| 03:31.49 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, is your cable still plugged in? |
| 03:32.15 | ejsejs | nope |
| 03:32.22 | ejsejs | be a hassle to talk to you if it was |
| 03:32.59 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: installed wpa supp |
| 03:33.02 | ejsejs | and the other package |
| 03:33.19 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, please do this |
| 03:33.36 | ejsejs | plug in the cab;e? |
| 03:33.38 | ejsejs | sure |
| 03:33.40 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 03:33.50 | ejsejs | oh |
| 03:33.55 | Black_Prince | yeah, also plug in the cable :) |
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| 03:34.45 | ejsejs | did both |
| 03:34.51 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, dhclient -v eth0 |
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| 03:35.30 | ejsejs | okay, did it Black_Prince |
| 03:35.36 | ejsejs | theres an ip address this time |
| 03:35.40 | ejsejs | 192.168.1.1 |
| 03:35.51 | ejsejs | home sweet home |
| 03:36.09 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, do you know is your wireless using wep of wpa? |
| 03:36.28 | Black_Prince | or |
| 03:36.33 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: uhhhh..... |
| 03:36.45 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, ok not necesary |
| 03:36.54 | ejsejs | the password is wpa i think |
| 03:36.59 | ejsejs | if thats what you mean |
| 03:37.30 | Black_Prince | yes that's what I meant |
| 03:37.51 | ejsejs | I'm pretty sure its wpa, but not positive |
| 03:38.51 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, ok |
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| 03:39.01 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, again install network-manager-gnome with apt-get install network-manager-gnome |
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| 03:39.14 | Black_Prince | after that, reboot again |
| 03:39.22 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: how can i?! |
| 03:39.30 | ejsejs | do i have networked now? |
| 03:39.33 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, apt-get install network-manager-gnome |
| 03:39.42 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, if you plugged your lan cable, then you should have network doh :| |
| 03:40.40 | ejsejs | oh! |
| 03:40.47 | ejsejs | then i dont have to run from room to room...do i? |
| 03:40.53 | ejsejs | but yeah, installed it |
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| 03:41.06 | Black_Prince | installed? alright |
| 03:41.11 | Black_Prince | reboot again |
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| 03:42.37 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: rebooted |
| 03:42.50 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, is there network manager icon? |
| 03:43.21 | ejsejs | yes |
| 03:43.26 | ejsejs | its singing into the network |
| 03:43.33 | ejsejs | but i dont think its succeeding |
| 03:44.13 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, you selected your wireless network? |
| 03:44.43 | ejsejs | no, it did it automatically |
| 03:44.51 | ejsejs | it wont connect. it tries though |
| 03:44.54 | ejsejs | also, no network |
| 03:45.00 | ejsejs | no wired. |
| 03:45.55 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: i did have servers set up before, so I had to make a static local ip. this was under ubuntu |
| 03:46.01 | ejsejs | could this have something to do with it? |
| 03:46.08 | Black_Prince | static? |
| 03:46.12 | Black_Prince | that's the problem then |
| 03:46.25 | Black_Prince | right click on network manager icon and then edit connections |
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| 03:46.42 | Black_Prince | is there anything under wireless tab? |
| 03:46.59 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: okay |
| 03:47.50 | ejsejs | there is |
| 03:47.56 | ejsejs | my wifi network |
| 03:47.58 | ejsejs | thats it |
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| 03:48.26 | Black_Prince | select it and click edit, then navigate to ipv4 settings and change to manual, then give your ip adresses there |
| 03:48.35 | Black_Prince | I guess you know them :| |
| 03:48.54 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: do you want me to delete my reserved addresses in my router? |
| 03:49.08 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, if you can set it to dynamic it would be good |
| 03:49.13 | Black_Prince | I mean automatic |
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| 03:49.55 | kzogg011 | Greetings |
| 03:50.30 | kzogg011 | anyone out there? |
| 03:50.41 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: uhh..in the edit menu, there are no ip addresses there |
| 03:50.55 | ejsejs | i set up the staticness in the ip router |
| 03:51.03 | ejsejs | not via my laptop |
| 03:51.04 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, edit, ipv4 settings, select manual from list |
| 03:51.09 | ejsejs | I did that |
| 03:51.19 | Black_Prince | then click add on the right side |
| 03:51.23 | ejsejs | oaky |
| 03:52.16 | ejsejs | do you want me to delete these address reservations off my router first? |
| 03:52.20 | Black_Prince | first one is static ip assigned, second one is netmask ussualy 255.255.255.0, third one is gateway, ip adress of your router |
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| 03:52.52 | ejsejs | I'm not seeing any of those, Black_Prince |
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| 03:54.24 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, how did you setup your wireless in ubuntu? |
| 03:54.41 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: I didn't..? |
| 03:54.44 | ejsejs | I installed a driver |
| 03:54.45 | ejsejs | thats it |
| 03:54.49 | ejsejs | I didn't go to this menu |
| 03:55.03 | ejsejs | I DID reserve addresses in my wireless router though |
| 03:55.14 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, please do ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 03:55.22 | alkisg | In sid, when I run `sudo -i user -i /bin/bash`, sudo stays running, waiting for bash to return. In ubuntu lucid it doesn't do that, saving a little memory. |
| 03:55.22 | alkisg | Can I somehow tell sudo in debian to not wait for the child process to exit? Or, can I do that with some other utility like e.g. su? |
| 03:55.35 | alkisg | *-u |
| 03:56.12 | ejsejs | +- |
| 03:56.19 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: did so |
| 03:56.32 | ejsejs | no output |
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| 03:56.39 | Black_Prince | select your essid in network manager |
| 03:57.30 | kzogg011 | Is it possible to downgrade the kernel after installing debian squeeze without reinventing the wheel? I'm trying to resolve a pci bar issue. |
| 03:57.59 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: you mean attempt to connect to it? okay... |
| 03:58.05 | wols | depends how far you want to downgrade. you cannot downgrade to a lenny kernel (2.6.26) |
| 03:58.10 | wols | what is the "pci bar" issue? |
| 03:58.13 | stew | kzogg011: yes, but you'll not be able to downgrade too far without ditching or downgrading udev, which is bound to get tricky |
| 03:58.18 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, please do grep netdev /etc/group and see if yor name is next to that choice |
| 03:59.01 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: it didnt connect |
| 03:59.12 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, please do this one |
| 03:59.35 | Black_Prince | it should look lie netdev:x:108:yourlogin |
| 03:59.39 | Black_Prince | like* |
| 03:59.41 | kzogg011 | hmmm. Perhaps I could downgrade just a bit without resorting to the lenny kernel...? |
| 04:00.01 | kzogg011 | It's an older system. |
| 04:00.04 | wols | why does the lenny kernel work and others don't? |
| 04:00.16 | ejsejs | netdev:x:106: |
| 04:00.28 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, run this as root -> adduser yourlogin netdev |
| 04:00.31 | ejsejs | noi yourlogin, Black_Prince |
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| 04:00.41 | Black_Prince | replace yourlogin with your debian username |
| 04:01.34 | ejsejs | ++ |
| 04:01.41 | wols | kzogg011: you can try to look at snapshot.debian.org for older kernels, back when squeeze was testing |
| 04:01.47 | ejsejs | sorry. did it Black_Prince |
| 04:01.55 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, log out and log back in |
| 04:03.14 | ejsejs | did so Black_Prince |
| 04:03.23 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, is it connecting to wireless? |
| 04:03.28 | kzogg011 | Interesting idea. I'll check into that. It should help determine when my hardware support seems to drop out of the kernel(version). Thanks |
| 04:03.40 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: its trying to |
| 04:04.10 | ejsejs | but no. it isnt |
| 04:04.17 | ejsejs | neither does it connect to wired |
| 04:04.32 | ejsejs | did you want me to delete the address reservations? |
| 04:04.45 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, ouch |
| 04:05.02 | ejsejs | "ouch" |
| 04:05.04 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, please do this ... go to system menu, then administration, then users and groups |
| 04:05.12 | ejsejs | okay, then whayt |
| 04:05.28 | Black_Prince | select your login there, and click advanced settings |
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| 04:06.32 | ejsejs | okay Black_Prince |
| 04:06.56 | Black_Prince | on user privileges tab make sure "Connect to wireless and wired networks" is checked |
| 04:08.11 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: its checked |
| 04:08.24 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, it was checked or you just check it? |
| 04:08.47 | ejsejs | it was checked |
| 04:08.55 | ejsejs | do you want me to unreserve these addresses? |
| 04:09.01 | ejsejs | I'km going to do it, whatever |
| 04:09.03 | ejsejs | cant hurt |
| 04:09.54 | ejsejs | Black_Prince: why cant i do that thing with the driver again? |
| 04:10.18 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, this is debian way: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#GNOME |
| 04:10.30 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, sorry I can't stay any longer, 6:10 AM here I have to go to bed |
| 04:10.44 | ejsejs | what. |
| 04:11.04 | Black_Prince | ejsejs, you can try to do the driver thing again but I doubt it will change |
| 04:11.05 | Black_Prince | good night |
| 04:11.19 | ejsejs | errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg |
| 04:11.23 | ejsejs | what the hell |
| 04:11.36 | winter | lulz |
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| 05:26.12 | izua | i have installed fglrx and now the console has switched from 1920x1080 to (probably) 640x480 |
| 05:26.41 | izua | is it possible to use a high resolution console with the fglrx driver? |
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| 05:35.32 | gnarface | izua: the way i understand it, they switched the mechanism for vga framebuffer console assignment in a way that doesn't always work with the newest nvidia/fglx proprietary drivers |
| 05:35.53 | gnarface | izua: so now you assign it through grub. its worth trying out, but the short answer is probably not. |
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| 05:43.13 | izua | bah. grub1 used to be so nice. |
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| 05:51.19 | ham5 | whats the WIP in the package versions mean? |
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| 05:56.28 | streuner | ham5 /msg select wip |
| 05:56.39 | streuner | ham5 /msg dselect wip |
| 05:56.40 | ham5 | not online |
| 05:56.55 | streuner | ham5 dselect is the bot |
| 05:57.06 | ham5 | lol couldent of just said work in progress |
| 05:57.08 | ham5 | thanks man |
| 05:57.16 | ham5 | all that lol |
| 05:57.52 | streuner | ham5 that wasnt nice |
| 05:58.06 | ham5 | you are nice, thanks for the help! |
| 05:58.21 | streuner | ham5: please ask before you CTCP version someone |
| 05:58.29 | ham5 | yea right |
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| 06:00.14 | streuner | ham5: you seems to be a very clever person |
| 06:00.30 | ham5 | your the one with the leet bot hax |
| 06:00.35 | ham5 | i dont know a damn thing sorry :( |
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| 06:05.09 | streuner | ham5: nah, thats not what i meant |
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| 06:05.53 | streuner | first you ask for help, got an answer and CTCP VERSION me, after i told you to ask you CTCP FINGER me then |
| 06:06.16 | ham5 | cool story bro |
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| 06:12.58 | nyov | lol |
| 06:13.21 | nyov | sorry :P |
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| 06:13.59 | winter | nyov: o/ |
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| 06:14.12 | nyov | who needs ctcp anyway? |
| 06:14.22 | nyov | winter: \o |
| 06:14.25 | streuner | only very clever people |
| 06:14.32 | ham5 | yea right, block that crap if your skerd |
| 06:14.32 | nyov | ah, I see |
| 06:14.56 | streuner | normally someone knows, that you are able to fake CTCP... |
| 06:15.01 | nyov | ham5: haha uh am I skerd |
| 06:16.23 | nyov | streuner: true, so what's the point |
| 06:16.41 | streuner | nyov: i have no idea |
| 06:17.14 | nyov | ok |
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| 06:17.50 | oldirty | HI EVERYBODY :D |
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| 06:28.36 | loupgaroublond | hi all |
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| 06:29.05 | loupgaroublond | what's the package that adds a session option for X to execute ~/.xsession instead of a real session manager? |
| 06:29.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | it always does |
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| 06:30.27 | loupgaroublond | not for me then |
| 06:31.06 | loupgaroublond | in this case, selecting xmonad instead of 'user session', it just executes the xmonad binary |
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| 06:32.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | selecting it where? |
| 06:32.12 | nyov | loupgaroublond: selecting where? |
| 06:32.17 | nyov | Kamping_Kaiser: :P |
| 06:32.20 | loupgaroublond | in gdm, kdm |
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| 06:36.12 | nyov | I only know of gfm, and there was an option to run Xsession there. no idea where that comes from if it's not there |
| 06:36.15 | nyov | *gdm |
| 06:36.29 | nyov | using xdm nowadays |
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| 06:37.41 | loupgaroublond | it used to be there by default, but then someone said it confused people and the option was ´hidden´ by a package |
| 06:38.56 | loupgaroublond | which i cant for the life of me remember the name of |
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| 06:46.10 | nyov | loupgaroublond: hidden by a debian package? are you sure? |
| 06:46.27 | nyov | seems like overkill to have a package for that |
| 06:48.24 | loupgaroublond | i would say the same thing, but theres been some strange ideas in the linux community the past few years |
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| 06:53.40 | jhujhiti | how do i get dpkg to show me the full package name in the "name" column? |
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| 06:53.49 | jhujhiti | (it's truncated) |
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| 06:54.44 | kripz | i want to update a package to the one used in the unstable version, how can i do this? |
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| 06:55.26 | Fudge | kripz do you already have the repo in sources.list ? |
| 06:55.43 | kripz | Fudge, no. But if i add it in wont all packages be upgradeD? |
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| 06:56.15 | Fudge | cant you apt-get install package-name -t squeeze-testing or what ever the source is called? |
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| 06:57.40 | ZykoticK9 | %ssb |
| 06:57.40 | dselect | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add ONLY a <deb-src> line for sid to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 07:14.11 | eppa | hello! anyone installed armel port on a QNAP TS-509? Trying to work out how different it is to the TS-409â¦I know it's a different SoC |
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| 07:23.57 | P-G-M | get a mac! |
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| 07:26.09 | ikonia | !ops |
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| 07:28.21 | P-G-M | get a mac! |
| 07:30.03 | onosendai | P-G-M: stfu n00b |
| 07:30.18 | ikonia | ignore it, the ops know about it |
| 07:30.28 | ZykoticK9 | P-G-M, just tried the same statement in #ubuntu and was kicked |
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| 07:30.54 | P-G-M | and people took notice |
| 07:30.58 | P-G-M | and uninstalled |
| 07:31.05 | P-G-M | after they couldnt even get flash to work |
| 07:31.11 | P-G-M | im awesome |
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| 07:45.54 | nyov | ZykoticK9: you did? haha |
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| 08:18.07 | ebzzry | Hi! What are good FTP server to install these days? |
| 08:18.12 | ebzzry | servers* |
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| 08:20.00 | epsilon | depends on your needs |
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| 08:21.35 | P-G-M | i just blew a huge turd out of my ass |
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| 08:23.17 | ansgar | %ops P-G-M |
| 08:23.17 | dselect | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill: ansgar complains about: P-G-M |
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| 08:24.10 | owen1 | i use firefox5 and try to install flash. i downloaded the tar.gz file and extracted it. i see libflashplayer.so and a user folder. what is my next step? |
| 08:24.16 | nevyn | ebzzry: installing ftp for public authenticated access is a bad idea these days. |
| 08:24.35 | nevyn | ebzzry: it's ok as an anonymous or semiprivate publishing mechinism |
| 08:24.39 | ebzzry | nevyn: It's OK, it's for private use. |
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| 08:24.48 | ebzzry | nevyn: wordpress plugin installation, to be exact. |
| 08:25.23 | nevyn | so you're going to install plugins that are ftp'd to this system? |
| 08:25.25 | nevyn | wow. |
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| 08:26.31 | ebzzry | nevyn: ya, why? |
| 08:26.59 | mjmt | owen1: Flash is packaged for Debian, in flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 08:27.42 | ansgar | nvIf you can install a ftp server, you can transfer files in a more sane way than using ftp as well. |
| 08:27.49 | ansgar | nevyn: ^^^ |
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| 08:28.56 | nevyn | ebzzry: I'd use a secure protocol even internally today |
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| 08:32.12 | owen1 | mjmt: thanks! |
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| 08:41.57 | opakavic | yak , the channel was full when i tried 5 min before |
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| 08:53.13 | skilz | whats the terminal command if I want to connect my wifi with no password? I tried 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETGEAR' but done nothing |
| 08:53.19 | skilz | whats the terminal command if I want to connect my wifi with no password? I tried 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETGEAR' but done nothing |
| 08:53.22 | skilz | oops sorry |
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| 08:55.41 | Bushmills | skilz: you may have to dhclient wlan0 after associating |
| 08:56.17 | skilz | tryed that |
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| 08:56.43 | skilz | is sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETGEAR the correct command? |
| 08:56.56 | skilz | the network is not password protected |
| 08:58.33 | streuner | skilz: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse might help |
| 08:58.41 | Bushmills | you can use iwconfig to confirm that the ESSID has been set, and that the client has associated |
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| 09:02.14 | Fuzzz3r | Hi all. I Can't run django server on debian. After command ./manage.py runserver I have error "Error: That IP address can't be assigned-to." |
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| 09:03.34 | anddam | hello |
| 09:04.02 | anddam | what are "bt-" and "usb-" in debian-live repository? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/ |
| 09:04.41 | streuner | bt - download via bittorrent |
| 09:05.08 | anddam | usb-hdd ? downloading via usb? |
| 09:05.22 | anddam | (yes, I'm joking) |
| 09:05.31 | streuner | nah, able to install on a USB drive |
| 09:05.46 | anddam | I'm targeting an USB flash drive indeed |
| 09:06.01 | anddam | what about hybrid? |
| 09:06.05 | streuner | anddam: just read ig then (/msg dselect ig) |
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| 09:06.39 | streuner | uhm, select is gone too |
| 09:06.47 | anddam | yep |
| 09:06.58 | anddam | can you please brief it? :-) |
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| 09:09.17 | streuner | anddam: just read http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 09:09.41 | anddam | I'm already reading that |
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| 09:10.03 | anddam | I have to pick an image, dump on the usb stick and go to a friend's to have a look at a computer |
| 09:10.25 | anddam | obviously one doesn't read this sort of things until he needs it⦠|
| 09:11.39 | anddam | streuner: oh that's debian install, I thought it was Live's manual |
| 09:12.42 | anddam | while I don't know everything I have a good overview of the process, I've been using (and installing) debian for a few years on my computers now |
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| 09:13.41 | anddam | streuner: last question, you said the usb-hdd is able to install on an USB drive. Do you mean directly dumping the img onto the device? I'm usually run unetbootin to install ISO files on USB flash sticks |
| 09:14.59 | anddam | I see debian live is aimed at building your own live system but in this case I just need an img ready to dump |
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| 09:16.45 | streuner | anddam: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 09:18.15 | anddam | it's clear to me how to install it, I wonder which image should I pick there's "standard" "rescue" and usual GDE |
| 09:18.32 | anddam | should I pick,* <- place a coma there |
| 09:18.42 | anddam | comma* |
| 09:18.53 | anddam | (wth) |
| 09:19.27 | anddam | streuner: getting lxde usb-hdd, thanks |
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| 09:27.09 | UukGoblin | yup, got spam on my debian bug mailing list address |
| 09:27.55 | UukGoblin | Received: from User (unknown [77.211.172.165]) by mail.zxyy.cn (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F511B9519 |
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| 09:33.33 | CruX| | hello, is it possible to use tmpfs as root fs ? |
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| 09:34.12 | n1md4 | morning. I have a daap share that decided to crash over the weekend, I've no idea why. I've tried purging/reinstalling, rebooting, but it will not scan files. Log says this https://gist.github.com/1063137 |
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| 09:36.09 | kaluva | Hi. I sometimes want to interrupt dhclient when it runs during boot as part of ifup -a, but the Ctrl-C doesn't get through. It does when I do a manual ifup. What is blocking the interrupt? |
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| 09:36.39 | ksk | CruX|: yeah, should be. livesystems like grml to things like that afaik |
| 09:36.50 | ksk | s/to/do/ |
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| 09:49.19 | Fudge | when creating a sources.list in sources.list.d is there a specific filename-format one should use or isnt it important |
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| 09:51.29 | ansgar | Fudge: Yes, see sources.list(5). |
| 09:51.37 | ompaul | Fudge: I've only ever seen files with "*.list" in the .d direcotry - no authority to say other ideas go here but I can test if you want |
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| 09:57.43 | grharry | Hey I am not able to locate debian lenny cd netinst image for download ... any clues ??? |
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| 10:00.36 | poisonbit | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive |
| 10:01.20 | poisonbit | .../5.0.8/$your_arch/iso-cd |
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| 10:03.27 | grharry | thans |
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| 10:15.48 | freemountain | Is it possible to make such a copying of files/dir.s so that whole the content becomes owned by another user - the owner of the dir. that the content is copied to? Thank You. |
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| 10:22.17 | Fudge | ompaul and ansgar thank you |
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| 10:22.32 | ompaul | Fudge: you are welcome |
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| 10:24.05 | Hazuki | kind of at the end of my rope here...i've been going at this for hours |
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| 10:48.02 | cyfyrifilefe | Hello, I'd like to install nmon. Isn't it in the repository? |
| 10:48.17 | cyfyrifilefe | I use Debian 5.0.8 |
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| 10:49.36 | streuner | packages.debian.org/<package> should show you |
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| 10:52.04 | streuner | or just /msg judd versions <package> |
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| 10:53.58 | cyfyrifilefe | sreuner: it seems to exist, but "apt-get install nmon" does not find it. |
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| 10:55.29 | streuner | well, its not even non-free, just show us your sources.list in pastebin |
| 10:55.47 | cyfyrifilefe | ok |
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| 10:58.20 | cyfyrifilefe | http://pastebin.com/L606meXU |
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| 11:01.35 | streuner | it seems there is no package for lenny |
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| 11:02.37 | cyfyrifilefe | . oh, thanks |
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| 11:02.53 | cyfyrifilefe | so I will install it by hand |
| 11:03.07 | cyfyrifilefe | it is just a binary, I guess. |
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| 11:12.15 | skilz | hey what do I need to install to get fluxbox to work? |
| 11:12.16 | skilz | the x package |
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| 11:12.56 | skilz | also how do I make the console resolution smaller? |
| 11:13.09 | babilen | cyfyrifilefe: Please make sure that you install it to /usr/local -- I recommend to use "stow" for that. -- Ask our bot about <usrlocal> <stow> <stow usage> -- E.g: /msg dselect stow usage |
| 11:13.14 | skilz | !x |
| 11:13.22 | wols | skilz: install xorg and fluxbox |
| 11:13.34 | __DL__ | Hello, I'm looking for an Emacs function to have today weekday, and found no easy way to do it. |
| 11:13.36 | skilz | so just apt-get install xorg? |
| 11:13.59 | __DL__ | wrong channel, sorry |
| 11:14.37 | stew | skilz: yes |
| 11:14.45 | skilz | ok thanks |
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| 11:15.14 | streuner | stew: what aptitude, both bots arent available... |
| 11:15.19 | streuner | about* |
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| 11:16.17 | skilz | whats the most lightweight graphical web browser that suppoers youtube and facebook ect? |
| 11:17.16 | streuner | good luck |
| 11:17.29 | DasEi | iceweasel or epiphany I guess, skilz |
| 11:17.34 | streuner | most modern browser arent lightweight at all |
| 11:17.47 | wols | opera mini |
| 11:18.10 | wols | and flash plugin is definitely not lightweight |
| 11:18.15 | skilz | wtf |
| 11:18.19 | skilz | xorg started |
| 11:18.22 | DasEi | hehe |
| 11:18.22 | skilz | fluxbox |
| 11:18.42 | streuner | youtube-dl |
| 11:18.47 | skilz | then I ctrl+alt+ft back to console then try to go back to x and just black screen ??? |
| 11:18.59 | skilz | so I killed x and startx again and still blackscreen |
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| 11:19.06 | wols | what videocard skilz? |
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| 11:19.41 | skilz | its an old dell dimensiob 2400 so I think its an intel intergrated chip |
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| 11:20.24 | skilz | yeah intel |
| 11:20.44 | jelly | skilz: which Debian release are you using? |
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| 11:21.11 | skilz | Linux ataraxia 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Jun 13 04:13:06 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 11:21.20 | skilz | the latest |
| 11:22.23 | skilz | ill try rebook |
| 11:22.25 | skilz | reboot |
| 11:22.27 | skilz | brb |
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| 11:27.13 | Schmorgluck | Hello there, I have a problem. I'd like to install Eclipse Helios, but I don't know how. Last time I tried an apt-pinning for something else, I messed it up, and ended up having to reinstall my whole system. |
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| 11:28.26 | wols | you install the sun jre and get eclipse from eclipse directly |
| 11:29.01 | Schmorgluck | I suppose I should uninstall Galileo first, then? |
| 11:29.27 | wols | shouldm't matter. you will install helios to /usr/local |
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| 11:29.56 | wols | just make sure your user doesn't keep old config files around that points to the old eclipse |
| 11:30.26 | wols | Schmorgluck: /msg dselect stow /msg dselect checkinstall |
| 11:30.50 | streuner | dselect, hi |
| 11:30.59 | streuner | ... |
| 11:31.10 | wols | dselect: botsnack |
| 11:31.21 | wols | damn. now they're all gone :( |
| 11:31.40 | streuner | 10:38 * dselect hat die Verbindung getrennt (*.net *.split) |
| 11:31.46 | Schmorgluck | okay, thanks |
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| 11:35.03 | nyov | apt: slap wols |
| 11:35.03 | apt | ACTION slaps wols, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
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| 11:35.23 | nyov | oops |
| 11:35.47 | cyfyrifilefe | babilen: thanks for the tip. I didn't know stow yet. |
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| 11:39.11 | negge | I need the contents of folder /media/folder1 to be visible under /media/folder2 (folder2 also contains other items). How can I symlink these without having to do it manually for each file? |
| 11:39.48 | ksk | symlink a directory? |
| 11:39.52 | thewanderer1 | negge: ln -s /media/folder1/* /media/folder2/ |
| 11:40.08 | ksk | ah mhmkay |
| 11:40.12 | negge | I'll try that |
| 11:40.36 | wols | but that means making new links whenever a new file comes into folder1 |
| 11:40.43 | thewanderer1 | true |
| 11:40.55 | negge | thewanderer1: nice, thanks! I tried the same but with relative links and then I got a "too deep linking" message |
| 11:41.00 | negge | something like that |
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| 11:45.32 | damasceno | When I try to mount a partition (/dev/sda1) using mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt the system shows that message: get root inode failed. |
| 11:45.39 | damasceno | I need to recover the data of this partition. :S |
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| 11:48.07 | locoabreu13 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:48.41 | locoabreu13 | take image of this partition |
| 11:48.54 | damasceno | locoabreu13, ok, but how can I access this partition? |
| 11:49.01 | skilz | hey guys Im having a problem with x, I keep getting: (E) intel(0):Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration. |
| 11:49.06 | locoabreu13 | and whit image do recover |
| 11:49.19 | skilz | then x freezes and I have to switch back to console and kill it |
| 11:49.21 | damasceno | locoabreu13, Do you speak portuguese? |
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| 11:49.30 | locoabreu13 | no |
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| 11:49.39 | skilz | x works for a few seconds then I get that error |
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| 11:50.02 | damasceno | locoabreu13, Ok, but if I do an image, how can I access the data after doing this? |
| 11:50.21 | skilz | how do I get that little penguin in the top left of my console? |
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| 11:50.28 | locoabreu13 | damasceno:here is example http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/recover-deleted-files-from-memory-card/ |
| 11:50.56 | damasceno | locoabreu13, I'll see, thanks. |
| 11:51.11 | skilz | how do I reconfigure xorg? |
| 11:51.23 | locoabreu13 | no problem damasceno |
| 11:51.33 | skilz | GPU hung |
| 11:53.03 | skilz | help |
| 11:53.16 | damasceno | locoabreu13, Using foremost tool, can I access my data? |
| 11:53.37 | locoabreu13 | maybe if you got luck.... |
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| 11:55.10 | locoabreu13 | what happend with your partiton? |
| 11:55.28 | skilz | I can startx and it works for a few seconds then it freezes and I get this error in the console: (E) intel(0):Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration. |
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| 11:59.17 | skilz | hello?? |
| 11:59.22 | skilz | am I invisible?> |
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| 12:02.42 | crysis | I can startx and it works for a few seconds then it freezes and I get this error in the console: (E) intel(0):Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration. |
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| 12:02.59 | crysis | also I type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 12:03.01 | crysis | and nothing |
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| 12:09.44 | jelly | yes you're invisibl |
| 12:09.45 | Schmorgluck | huh, I don't understand how to install Eclipse. But perhaps I should ask elsewhere... |
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| 12:14.12 | Schmorgluck | how do I put helios to /usr/local? Do I just cut and past the decompressed directory? Sounds messy... |
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| 12:15.55 | skilz | help |
| 12:16.11 | skilz | how do I reconfigure xorg? |
| 12:16.18 | casts | Schmorgluck: what is in helios? |
| 12:16.18 | skilz | !help |
| 12:16.41 | demute_ | I just installed debian-6.0.2.1 on my laptop and I got a so annoying sound every time I press tab etc in the terminal. It's not the pcspkr, (nothing happens when doing rmmod), it's from the speakers... but it doesn't help even if I remove all snd* modules! Anyone recognize this? it's a hp elitebook 8540w. |
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| 12:17.09 | daemonkeeper | demute_: xset b off |
| 12:17.16 | skilz | how do I reconfigure xorg? |
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| 12:17.34 | demute_ | daemonkeeper: that helped, thanks a lot |
| 12:18.13 | demute_ | daemonkeeper: what's the equivalent outside x? |
| 12:18.20 | Schmorgluck | casts, I don't quite get your question |
| 12:18.28 | locoabreu13 | skilz:dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 12:18.37 | locoabreu13 | dpkg |
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| 12:19.44 | daemonkeeper | demute_: setterm -blength |
| 12:19.44 | casts | Schmorgluck: ls helios/ |
| 12:19.57 | daemonkeeper | demute_: Or remove pcspkr |
| 12:19.58 | skilz | locoabreu13: does not work |
| 12:20.08 | Schmorgluck | casts, oh, there's no such directory. It's eclipse/ |
| 12:20.12 | demute_ | daemonkeeper: you are my new lover. Thanks. |
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| 12:20.36 | casts | Schmorgluck: ok. what is in eclipse/ |
| 12:20.46 | locoabreu13 | skilz:wich version Debian you use? |
| 12:21.25 | Schmorgluck | about_files artifacts.xml dropins eclipse.ini features libcairo-swt.so p2 readme |
| 12:21.25 | Schmorgluck | about.html configuration eclipse epl-v10.html icon.xpm notice.html plugins |
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| 12:21.57 | skilz | latest |
| 12:22.05 | locoabreu13 | 6.0? |
| 12:22.07 | casts | Schmorgluck: is eclipse the executable? |
| 12:22.10 | demute_ | daemonkeeper: I tried to remove pcspkr but it didn't helped, seems to be statically compiled to the kernel in this debian version. |
| 12:22.15 | Schmorgluck | casts, yep. |
| 12:23.06 | daemonkeeper | demute_: Not in my kernel. |
| 12:23.06 | Schmorgluck | should I set a symlink? |
| 12:23.16 | skilz | I have a problem I startx and it works fine for a few seconds then it hangs and I get this error in console '(EE) intel(0): Detected a hung GPU, disabling GPU acceleration.' |
| 12:23.27 | skilz | how do I fix that so I can use xorg |
| 12:23.37 | daemonkeeper | demute_: I have /lib/modules/2.6.38-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/input/misc/pcspkr.ko, yours may be similar. |
| 12:23.45 | casts | Schmorgluck: i'd use a symlink |
| 12:24.22 | skilz | please im runing out of time |
| 12:25.08 | demute_ | daemonkeeper: yes, I have the module too. strangely the beep didn't disappear when removing it |
| 12:25.20 | locoabreu13 | skilz:seem like bug your problem |
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| 12:25.31 | skilz | no |
| 12:25.34 | skilz | its not a but |
| 12:25.35 | skilz | bug |
| 12:25.39 | casts | Schmorgluck: something fairly simple, from /usr/local/bin/eclipse to /usr/local/eclipse-version/eclipse perhaps |
| 12:25.54 | skilz | how do I disable GPU acceleration in xorg? |
| 12:26.09 | skilz | how can I fix it? |
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| 12:26.20 | skilz | Ubuntu was working perfect |
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| 12:26.53 | skilz | why doesnt sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do anything? |
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| 12:27.56 | casts | did you install sudo? |
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| 12:31.15 | skilz | yes |
| 12:31.31 | skilz | casts: it just returns to a new # prompt |
| 12:31.47 | skilz | like it done something but returned no text |
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| 12:34.52 | Schmorgluck | now, how do I arrange for Helios to be launched instead of Galileo, when I type eclipse |
| 12:34.55 | Schmorgluck | ? |
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| 12:37.50 | Schmorgluck | And will I have to set manually all my configurations to match my former ones? |
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| 12:39.44 | sdfwe5cd | . |
| 12:39.54 | jokar1 | o/ all |
| 12:39.56 | jokar1 | hi |
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| 12:40.16 | jokar1 | i want install 32 bit program in 64 bit linux what do i do? |
| 12:41.22 | scottmaccal | jokarl: you should be able to |
| 12:41.44 | jokar1 | how? |
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| 12:42.24 | jokar1 | i think i need 32 bit lib |
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| 12:42.42 | scottmaccal | jokarl1: can you explan what you are trying to do? |
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| 12:43.26 | jokar1 | i want install adobe acrobat on debian 64 bit but acrobat is 32 bit |
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| 12:43.51 | casts | proprietary shitware |
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| 12:45.01 | casts | jokar1: does adobe support that? |
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| 12:45.23 | jokar1 | not,adobe not have 64 bit version for linux |
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| 12:45.40 | Schmorgluck | So, I guess I have to remove the eclipse package in order for my stuff to work... |
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| 12:45.56 | jokar1 | but i think linux 64 bit must able to run 32 bit |
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| 12:54.46 | jokar1 | :-/ |
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| 12:59.53 | skilz | when I move windows around they move sooooo slooooow |
| 13:00.22 | skilz | like when I try to drag a terminal window or something like that it moves at like 1fps |
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| 13:01.04 | mu3en | does anyone use connman under debian successfully? |
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| 13:06.50 | skilz | how do I know if im using the right video driver for xorg? |
| 13:06.58 | skilz | my system seems really slow when I move stuff |
| 13:07.17 | Bushmills | skilz: getting picture is a good indication |
| 13:08.00 | skilz | how do I install the flash support got firefox ect? |
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| 13:08.25 | Bushmills | flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 13:08.40 | phogg | mu3en: probably, but why would you want to? |
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| 13:09.40 | skilz | ut is referred to by another package. |
| 13:09.52 | skilz | E: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate |
| 13:10.01 | Bushmills | in contrib |
| 13:10.17 | skilz | !contrib |
| 13:10.29 | skilz | whats the line I need to put in sources.list |
| 13:10.43 | Bushmills | no extra line. |
| 13:10.52 | Bushmills | contrib next to main |
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| 13:11.27 | skilz | whereis the sourceslist |
| 13:11.43 | skilz | never mine found iut |
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| 13:12.02 | skilz | I dont have contrib |
| 13:13.29 | skilz | should I put contrib at the end of security too? |
| 13:13.46 | skilz | or just everything else |
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| 13:15.56 | skilz | how do I get sound working? |
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| 13:16.52 | mu3en | phogg. e17 has very nice integration with connman. |
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| 13:17.47 | mu3en | unfortunately e17 debian packages do not have the connman module, and building e17 from svn on debian and using the connman package doesn't gel. |
| 13:17.50 | damasceno | How can I unpack .img file using dd? I used dd to compact. |
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| 13:18.07 | Bushmills | "get sound working" - you configure it, or turn up the volume |
| 13:18.43 | Bushmills | damasceno: what kind of "compact"ing? |
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| 13:19.17 | Bushmills | translating CR/LF to LF? |
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| 13:19.36 | damasceno | Bushmills, I did a image using dd. |
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| 13:19.56 | Bushmills | i got that. but then you said "I used dd to compact." |
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| 13:20.53 | andi | Hi people. I have a short question: How should I format my 2GB usb stick so that I can boot debian-live from it? |
| 13:21.09 | Bushmills | andi, you don't. you dd the whole image |
| 13:21.24 | andi | whats dd? |
| 13:21.27 | Bushmills | (not to a partition on the device - to the whole device |
| 13:21.33 | skilz | Bushmills: what packages do I need to install / configure for my sound? |
| 13:21.42 | Bushmills | andi, man dd |
| 13:21.44 | lechienkitu | by windows there is unebootin |
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| 13:21.56 | Bushmills | or cat or cp it |
| 13:22.05 | andi | i'm using ubuntu but i'd like to switch to debian |
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| 13:22.21 | lechienkitu | mmh |
| 13:22.27 | Bushmills | lechienkitu: no need. debian live is already suitable for flash booting |
| 13:22.29 | stew | andi: dd is like cp with more knobs to turn that you don't need to turn. "cp foo.iso /dev/whatever" should work (replacing all the contents of /dev/whatver, so make sure you have the right whatever) |
| 13:22.30 | sterna | just change your sources.list to debian and upgrade |
| 13:22.39 | lechienkitu | on ubuntu you've a log for it. |
| 13:22.45 | lechienkitu | wait ;) |
| 13:22.51 | stew | sterna: no, please don't suggestion something like that |
| 13:22.57 | skilz | Bushmills: what packages do I need to install / configure for my sound? |
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| 13:23.25 | sterna | stew: it's a completely valid suicide method. |
| 13:23.31 | Bushmills | skilz: i have no idea what your system needs. many system need nothing in addition to base install. you may want alsa stuff |
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| 13:23.39 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | anyone know the dd command to backup the first track of /dev/sda? |
| 13:23.42 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | to a file |
| 13:23.46 | sterna | first track? |
| 13:23.53 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | track 0, 63 sectors |
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| 13:24.12 | sterna | dd if=/dev/sda of=track.img bs=512 count=64 |
| 13:24.18 | jelly | 63 |
| 13:24.24 | lechienkitu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.24 | sterna | 64. |
| 13:24.30 | jelly | sterna: 63! |
| 13:24.40 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | i'm preety sure hard-drives have 63 sectors per track, thanks |
| 13:24.42 | sterna | the amount of sectors is 64 |
| 13:24.51 | sterna | if it's 0..63 |
| 13:24.53 | jelly | sterna: that's more than "first track" |
| 13:24.58 | jelly | sterna: it's 0..62 |
| 13:25.00 | sterna | oh |
| 13:25.05 | sterna | then yes, 63 |
| 13:25.11 | amero | where is the download link for debian sid? all download links on debian site lead to stable build iso |
| 13:25.15 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | ahh |
| 13:25.18 | sterna | anyway, the concept of tracks doesn't really apply anymore |
| 13:25.24 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | i also thought sector 63 was in first track |
| 13:25.26 | stew | amero: /msg dselect sid iso |
| 13:25.29 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | but zero is the first one |
| 13:25.34 | Bushmills | skilz: try to run speaker-test |
| 13:25.56 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | sterna and to restore the first track? |
| 13:26.05 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | just switch if and of around? |
| 13:26.08 | epsilon | yes |
| 13:26.10 | sterna | dd if=track.img of=/dev/sda |
| 13:26.11 | sterna | yes |
| 13:26.19 | skilz | Bushmills: what alsa stuff do I need to install |
| 13:26.22 | stew | amero: oh, hmm, we are botless, but i was hoping to have to bot tell you that sid isos are generally a bad idea, since sid changes 4 times a day |
| 13:26.26 | sterna | but don't do that if you're running of sda |
| 13:26.27 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | thanks |
| 13:26.28 | sterna | it's dangerous |
| 13:26.48 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | its not dangerous if i add bs and count |
| 13:27.00 | sterna | yes it is |
| 13:27.02 | sterna | well |
| 13:27.03 | sterna | it may be |
| 13:27.03 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | in what way |
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| 13:27.14 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | only if i did a typo |
| 13:27.14 | sterna | depends on where your filesystems are |
| 13:27.30 | skilz | whats to alsa command to configure soundcard please? |
| 13:27.31 | sterna | you should never write to mounted filesystems |
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| 13:28.00 | skilz | first person to help me fix this problem gets $25 US in their paypal |
| 13:28.04 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | i wont |
| 13:28.13 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | that would be done on a windows systen using a live cd |
| 13:28.31 | stew | skilz: you can try "alsactl init" but there isn't really a good also command to do this |
| 13:28.46 | sterna | skilz: what do you need to configure? |
| 13:28.48 | sterna | unmute? |
| 13:28.51 | Bushmills | skilz: i suppose alsa-base, alsa-utils and alsaplayer-alsa would do |
| 13:29.05 | homie | skilz: alsaconf helps too sometimes |
| 13:29.11 | stew | alsaconf is gone |
| 13:29.12 | homie | skilz: don't know if it's in squeeze |
| 13:29.18 | homie | ah ok |
| 13:29.33 | MrFrood | %alsactl |
| 13:29.41 | stew | our bots are also gone |
| 13:29.47 | MrFrood | :( |
| 13:29.49 | skilz | I just ran alsamixer and i can see the card but still cant hear the music playing |
| 13:29.58 | andi` | I just have to copy the debian live cd to my usb stick and I can boot from it? |
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| 13:30.09 | lechienkitu | andi`: no |
| 13:30.14 | andi` | sry debian live image |
| 13:30.18 | stew | skilz: make sure both master and pcm are turned up and unmuted, you can toggle mute with 'm' |
| 13:30.20 | lechienkitu | too |
| 13:30.32 | Bushmills | andi`: right. |
| 13:30.40 | lechienkitu | have you seen the link that posted ? |
| 13:30.41 | sterna | skilz: unmute it |
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| 13:30.57 | skilz | already done that stew |
| 13:31.02 | sterna | skilz: like stew said, use up/down and m key |
| 13:31.04 | andi` | Bushmills: so is just have to copy the image? |
| 13:31.08 | sterna | skilz: what card is that? |
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| 13:31.11 | lechienkitu | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download get the "2" there is a tuto for boot a usb stick |
| 13:31.13 | stew | skilz: put the output of "amixer" into a pastebin |
| 13:31.20 | Bushmills | to the device, yes. not to a file system on the device. |
| 13:31.21 | sterna | skilz: some cards have a phone/speaker switch |
| 13:31.29 | andi` | oh ok |
| 13:32.49 | andi` | cat /home/andi/debian-live-6.0.1-i386-gnome-desktop.iso > /dev/sdb |||| Thats right? |
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| 13:33.18 | lechienkitu | don't know |
| 13:33.33 | lechienkitu | but you've a soft for boot a usb stick on Ubuntu |
| 13:33.50 | lechienkitu | you must do "System -> Boot usb or cd" I don't know ^^ |
| 13:33.59 | andi` | mhm |
| 13:34.01 | stew | andi`: just be sure that sdb is really the right drive |
| 13:34.12 | andi` | stew: yes of course |
| 13:34.19 | Bushmills | andi`: better use cp, to avoid any potential but unlikely translation issues |
| 13:34.32 | stew | translation? |
| 13:34.41 | andi` | ok |
| 13:34.45 | lechienkitu | andi`: if you don't understand me, that normal. I'm french and my english is low ;) |
| 13:35.06 | andi` | i'm from austria :-) |
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| 13:35.22 | skilz | alsa doesnt work |
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| 13:35.26 | skilz | might try OSS |
| 13:35.33 | stew | skilz: show us the output of amixer |
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| 13:40.46 | MrFrood | stew: OSS4 is a pain to set up right but with certain hardware can sound a lot better than alsa (not so much better with other hardware) |
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| 13:42.50 | stew | MrFrood: ok? are you implying that I should not try to help him with alsa? |
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| 13:47.33 | skilz | how can I get the little tux picture in the top leftof my console |
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| 13:49.20 | andi` | I did => cat /home/andi/debian-live-6.0.1-i386-gnome-desktop.iso > /dev/sdb I did not cp ... because I found in the doc # cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX |
| 13:49.21 | andi` | I booted from the usb stick and it says => GRUB loading. Welcome to GRUB! error: no such device: blabla-long-number ... entereing rescue mode ... and now i'm in the grub rescue> shell |
| 13:49.40 | andi` | what should i do? |
| 13:49.55 | andi` | help says nothing |
| 13:50.12 | MrFrood | skilz: I was warning him that switching from alsa to oss4 should not be done with little thought |
| 13:50.25 | MrFrood | er sorry stew |
| 13:50.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | skilz: i believe there is some doco on the debian wiki about it |
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| 13:51.08 | lechienkitu | andi`: imho, your iso is bad. |
| 13:51.16 | lechienkitu | or you boot |
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| 13:52.36 | Kromgol | Hello. How do i set up a software RAID when installing debian? |
| 13:55.24 | thewanderer1 | Kromgol: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03.html.en#mdcfg |
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| 13:58.36 | acerorasus | I am going to buy a netbook. Either the ASUS 1001PXD-WHI101S or the ACER AOD255E-13DQws. Both cost the same. Which one is better value for money? Which one is more GNU/Linux friendly. especially wireless wise, that is to perform wireless security audits |
| 13:58.49 | acerorasus | what's the wireless chipset in them 2 models? neither asus nor acer mention that on their website |
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| 14:04.11 | Bushmills | stew: "translation issues" like cat being aliased to .. say, print line numbers, append $ at line end etc |
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| 14:05.35 | Kromgol | Oh right |
| 14:05.48 | Kromgol | If i'm going to use RAID 1 for example, does the HDD's need to be equal size? |
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| 14:06.56 | vlt | Kromgol: No, but you will only be able to use the size of the smallest disk |
| 14:07.05 | sabgenton | from the web |
| 14:07.07 | sabgenton | When you install that package with aptitude and remove it with aptitude, aptitude 'detects' that those library packages aren't used anymore and will therefore automatically remove thm. |
| 14:07.07 | Kromgol | vlt: I noticed. |
| 14:07.08 | Kromgol | <.< |
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| 14:07.36 | Kromgol | vlt: Let's say i have 3 HDDs then, one 150gb, the rest 250gb, is it possible to mirror all of them in some RAID? |
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| 14:07.59 | sabgenton | does that imply if I intalled with apt-get aptitude wont detect dependencys? |
| 14:08.00 | vlt | Kromgol: Yes |
| 14:08.12 | Kromgol | vlt: What RAID then? |
| 14:08.43 | sabgenton | on uninstall |
| 14:08.56 | vlt | Kromgol: There are so many RAID levels ... What do you need? Reduncy or speed? |
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| 14:09.38 | Kromgol | Redundancy |
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| 14:10.01 | demetan | hi who knows something about 2.4 wireless headset configuration please ? |
| 14:10.14 | greedo | is it possible that lvextend clears all data? |
| 14:10.17 | sabgenton | does aptituede work any different on packages that where installed with apt? (dose it have it's own meta date for eg)? |
| 14:10.17 | vlt | Kromgol: RAID5 should be possible with 3 drives; that will give you 2 * 150 GB |
| 14:10.32 | sabgenton | apt-get I mean |
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| 14:11.21 | ujjain | Starting iSCSI enterprise target service:FATAL: Module iscsi_trgt not found. < what causes this error? |
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| 14:11.42 | vlt | But with only 3 disks you also could run a RAID1 on the two 250 GB disks, which is more performant, especially in write speed. |
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| 14:12.20 | Kromgol | vlt: But there's no way i'm able to combine all three disks, yeah? |
| 14:12.39 | thewanderer1 | Kromgol: with RAID5 you can combine all 3 |
| 14:12.43 | vlt | Kromgol: Of course, in that RAID5, for example |
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| 14:13.22 | ujjain | Yes, I don't see why you should favour a 2-disk raid1 over a 3-disk raid5 |
| 14:13.25 | Kromgol | But it won't let me use the space on one of the disks? |
| 14:13.34 | jelly | ujjain: modules not built for current kernel? |
| 14:13.47 | jelly | ,versions iscsitarget-dkms |
| 14:13.48 | judd | Package iscsitarget-dkms on i386 -- squeeze: 1.4.20.2-1; sid: 1.4.20.2-4; wheezy: 1.4.20.2-4; experimental: 1.4.20.2-5 |
| 14:13.50 | vlt | ujjain: Because you don't get more redundancy from RAID5 |
| 14:13.57 | jelly | ujjain: which debian release are you using? |
| 14:14.01 | vlt | ujjain: But less performance |
| 14:14.12 | jelly | ujjain: and are you using a custom kernel? |
| 14:14.13 | ujjain | I think I have been able to find my issue, I needed to install dkms for iscsi |
| 14:14.19 | ujjain | no, it was not a dependency. |
| 14:14.43 | ujjain | I would use raid-5 if I had 3 identical disks, not raid-1. |
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| 14:15.30 | vlt | ujjain: Kromgol hasn't got three identical ones. |
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| 14:16.00 | ujjain | right, then forget what I said. |
| 14:16.30 | Kromgol | From what i'm reading, if i use RAID5 with one 150gb and 2x 250gb, the 250gb disks will be treated as 150gb instead? |
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| 14:16.56 | vlt | Kromgol: As I said: You will only be able to use the size of the smallest disk |
| 14:17.01 | ujjain | Yes, that should be possible, but I'd sell the 150 and buy a 250gb disk to get decent raid. |
| 14:17.07 | Kromgol | vlt: Now i see. |
| 14:17.11 | Kromgol | Thanks! |
| 14:17.21 | Kromgol | ujjain: Indeed :P |
| 14:17.51 | Kromgol | Bah, now i gotta reformat again after a failed attempt at RAID :D |
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| 14:18.16 | vlt | Kromgol: So either get another 250g disk, or build a 300g RAID5, or a 250g RAID1. Depends on your performance needs. |
| 14:18.34 | zinx | Kromgol: trust me, that's much more painful on 3TB disks |
| 14:18.51 | Kromgol | vlt: Yeah. |
| 14:18.55 | Kromgol | :D |
| 14:19.09 | ujjain | will it be for your home computer? |
| 14:19.21 | ujjain | then I'd go for raid-1, and a seperate disk, or even sell the other disk |
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| 14:19.48 | ujjain | or use it for back-up |
| 14:19.48 | Kromgol | Nah, my server. |
| 14:20.27 | ujjain | hmm, maybe same solution, raid-1 is pretty solid and if you have a decent cpu/memory, IO is not that quickly limiting factor. |
| 14:20.57 | ujjain | so huge IO power does not affect performance as much as lots of RAM, so raid-1 + back-up disk seems solid, althoguh if ur hacked, you'll still be screwed with losing all data. |
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| 14:21.09 | Kromgol | I guess so. |
| 14:21.47 | ujjain | but raid-5 should be possible, it just sounds dirty to me and I wouldn't feel good about raid-5 with seperate style of disks |
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| 14:22.46 | ujjain | Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table |
| 14:22.48 | ujjain | what is dm-0? |
| 14:23.01 | andi | When I use debian-installer can I say that I'd like to encrypt my whole harddrive? |
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| 14:24.15 | ujjain | I don't think so. |
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| 14:28.29 | vlt | ujjain, Kromgol: Using RAID on differently sized devices isn't dirty at all. |
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| 14:30.13 | Bushmills | andi: BIOS would have quite a problem bootstrapping from an encrypted master boot record |
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| 14:32.05 | mSeb123 | Hey, i have a Hetzner EQ4 Rootserver with HW Raid - after installing XEN 4 i get this error displayed via KVM (System doesn't boot) "Begin: Waiting for root filesystem... ..." |
| 14:33.30 | Bushmills | mSeb123: EQ4, unless flexpack+hw raid added, comes with softraid only |
| 14:33.53 | mSeb123 | Bushmills: Its with Flexi-Pack HW RAID and IP Subnet |
| 14:34.01 | Bushmills | and you better make up your mind between xen and kvm |
| 14:34.37 | mSeb123 | Bushmills: I installed XEN and looked at the output after booting on a Lara KVM |
| 14:34.38 | Bushmills | both serve essentially the same purpose |
| 14:35.22 | mSeb123 | Bushmills: I menat KVM Swtich noch Kernel based Virtualiation |
| 14:35.41 | Bushmills | ah, keyboard-video-mouse |
| 14:35.58 | mSeb123 | Bushmills: yes because the server doesn't boot with ssh |
| 14:36.11 | mSeb123 | Bushmills: before this there is the error see above |
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| 14:37.11 | Bushmills | no idea. hw raid should be transparent to the system software. using an i2o controller? |
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| 14:37.44 | mSeb123 | no its a 3ware RAID Controller |
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| 14:39.18 | mSeb123 | hm ... i will try in #xem |
| 14:39.18 | mSeb123 | * #xen |
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| 14:44.23 | niklaswe | any ide how I should do to print all line above my match |
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| 14:45.16 | tvm | niklaswe: explain. |
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| 14:46.28 | niklaswe | tvm: I have some text.. and searching after a specific word.. when i match that i want it to print all lines above that line it match |
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| 14:47.19 | petemc | sed -n '/foo/,$!p' file |
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| 14:47.44 | simonlnu | ravenbird: hi |
| 14:47.44 | ravenbird | simonlnu: i don't know |
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| 14:49.47 | niklaswe | petemc: hmm ty :) |
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| 14:50.51 | blink | hey guys, wondering why my load avg is always 1, (quad core)CPU use shows 0% across the board, I'm using an encrypted volume for ~/Private but nothing special beyond that |
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| 14:51.51 | tvm | blink: that could be normal, is that a laptop ? |
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| 14:54.54 | blink | tvm: yeah, it's an HP elitebook |
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| 14:55.15 | blink | connected to a dock |
| 14:55.19 | tvm | blink: i have quad core thinkpad and it does the same |
| 14:55.26 | tvm | even when idle. |
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| 14:55.43 | blink | right, any idea or just a quirk? |
| 14:56.21 | tvm | dunno, maybe the speed scaling ? that's what i think |
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| 14:58.25 | simonlnu | &test |
| 14:58.25 | ravenbird | Test failed. |
| 14:58.32 | simonlnu | &test |
| 14:58.33 | ravenbird | Test failed. |
| 14:58.40 | MrFrood | yay a bot :) |
| 14:58.43 | simonlnu | \o/ |
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| 14:58.54 | simonlnu | up to date as of 2 days ago |
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| 14:58.57 | MrFrood | ravenbird: hi |
| 14:59.00 | S1Hackalot | dear all , join irc.eff-dev.org #Reddit and channel #debian . we are in demand of ircops, as we are trying to join freenode on a new irc mirror. Thank you. |
| 14:59.12 | simonlnu | !ops S1Hackalot |
| 14:59.22 | simonlnu | &ops S1Hackalot |
| 14:59.23 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill: simonlnu complains about: S1Hackalot |
| 14:59.50 | mrmist | S1Hackalot: No advertising on this network please. |
| 15:00.03 | S1Hackalot | okay thanks, we just joined freenode |
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| 15:07.45 | Yukiteru | hola a todos!!! |
| 15:07.57 | Yukiteru | upsss!!! |
| 15:08.15 | Yukiteru | hello people!!! |
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| 15:09.18 | andi | Yukiteru: hola :-) |
| 15:09.45 | Yukiteru | X) |
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| 15:12.00 | andi | I did ||| debian-live-blablablabla.img > /dev/sdb ||| Usb works, but if I do md5sum /dev/sdb I get a different sum. Is that a problem? |
| 15:13.04 | twobitsprite | andi: try dd instead, not sure if I trust the shell to write an image to a device |
| 15:13.21 | garden | you should perhaps do the md5sum on the first part of sdb, which is presumably bigger than the image you're writing |
| 15:13.23 | andi | twobitsprite: but it works. I can boot from the usb |
| 15:14.03 | twobitsprite | garden: yeah, I was just thinking that... md5sum will read the entire device, including the empty/garbage blocks after the image |
| 15:14.07 | garden | if the img is 100 MB and the usb device is 150, md5sum /dev/sdb calculates the has over all the 150 |
| 15:14.11 | garden | yes |
| 15:14.24 | andi | ah ok |
| 15:14.34 | garden | you can do dd if=/dev/sdb and set block= and count= so to read back the same amount of data you wrote, and pipe it to md5sum |
| 15:15.36 | andi | md5sum /dev/sdb1 works! i have the same sum thanks |
| 15:16.28 | twobitsprite | odd... I wouldn't expect it to... wouldn't the image have to have a partition table in order to even make a sda1? but sda1 wouldn't include that partition table... |
| 15:17.21 | andi | i have no idea but that ... i just know that my usb-stick works perfectly :-) |
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| 15:19.37 | ckop64 | hello, I'm using debian stable with KDE. After a plasma crash my desktop looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/PlnKV.png . I can't rightclick it or anything. How do I bring it back? |
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| 15:25.30 | MrFrood | ckop64: I do not use kde but ctrl+alt+f1 (f1 trough f6 should work) will give you a VT to work in (f7 to get back to the gui with a default install) |
| 15:25.33 | Mmike | Where is it set up weather debconf should ask me a question or not? I have package, netdiag, on lenny, that, when installed on some machines, it asks me a question |
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| 15:25.39 | Mmike | erm, sorrey |
| 15:25.46 | Mmike | fixored that :) |
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| 15:26.30 | ckop64 | MrFrood: after switching back and forth my desktop still looks the same |
| 15:27.06 | genfool | ckop64, have you logged out and back in? |
| 15:27.24 | MrFrood | ckop64: yeah but now you should be able to use the CLI tools to try and work out what is going on |
| 15:27.28 | ckop64 | genfool: yes i did. also tried kquitapp plasma-desktop |
| 15:28.16 | ckop64 | MrFrood: except for the huge black square in the middle of my desktop blocking anything below it the desktop itself works just fine, so GUI works |
| 15:28.27 | genfool | ckop64, if you rename the kde folder in home, will lose any custom settings you had, log out and in and a new one will be generated |
| 15:28.35 | ckop64 | I'm just unable to see (and do anything on) my desktop |
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| 15:29.55 | BenBE | Where to find information on the various Kernel APIs and their data formats? |
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| 15:30.53 | ps_jinx | hey guys I am getting "collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault]" error while building latest php src code cloned from git hub on debian squeeze amd64 .. complete output of make is here http://pastebin.com/tkS0JTCZ |
| 15:30.55 | MrFrood | &kernel |
| 15:30.56 | BenBE | I'm looking in particular for the API of iptables (Reading rules/counters, adding/modifying/removing rules, ...) |
| 15:31.31 | jelly | ps_jinx: are you using old ld or gold? |
| 15:32.50 | BenBE | ps_jinx Are you sure you built for the proper architecture? The error messages indicate there's something trying to build i386 instead of x64. |
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| 15:45.15 | CannedCorn | what is the best way to get a more current mysql than that in squeeze |
| 15:45.29 | CannedCorn | use apt, etc... or just get the source |
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| 15:46.07 | BenBE | CannedCorn Switch to Testing ^^ |
| 15:46.19 | CannedCorn | this is for a production server |
| 15:46.24 | CannedCorn | don't want to really use testing |
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| 15:47.50 | wols | CannedCorn: backport |
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| 15:49.18 | CannedCorn | wols how do i do that |
| 15:49.39 | ps_jinx | BenBE: Actually I switched from i386 to amd64 2 days back .. this source code was cloned for 32 bit and installed that time .. should i clone again ? |
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| 15:50.34 | tharkun | Gentlemen I have this print job stuck on a server which i am by no means able to move, cancel or redirect using standard cli cups commands. Where are they stored on the filesystem so i can manually erase them? |
| 15:51.18 | BenBE | ps_jinx You don't need to clone again; just make clean and re-configure the source. |
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| 15:51.26 | BenBE | Seems to still have the old config files. |
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| 15:52.29 | BenBE | CannedCorn: I'm using Testing for my production servers for years now: Can get a bit tricky, but not much more work than with stable... |
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| 15:53.01 | jelly | BenBE: how do yuou handle security issues |
| 15:53.09 | CannedCorn | is it safe to upgrade from stable |
| 15:53.22 | jelly | CannedCorn: no |
| 15:53.25 | BenBE | As you know: There's only 3 versions of Debian: Obsolete, instable and broken. |
| 15:53.49 | CannedCorn | i see |
| 15:53.53 | jelly | CannedCorn: which features of newer mysql-server-* do you need? |
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| 15:53.58 | simonlnu | &your factoids |
| 15:53.59 | ravenbird | You can search my database on the web at http://ircbots.debian.net/ or on IRC by asking me about <help listkeys> and <help-listvals>. My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are there. See also <search>. |
| 15:54.06 | CannedCorn | limit in subqueries |
| 15:54.18 | CannedCorn | i can't believe mysql 5 doesn't support this |
| 15:54.37 | jelly | ,versions mysql-server-5.1 |
| 15:54.37 | judd | Package mysql-server-5.1 on i386 -- lenny-backports: 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 5.1.49-3; sid: 5.1.57-3; wheezy: 5.1.57-3 |
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| 15:54.56 | jelly | CannedCorn: is that 5.1.49 good enough? |
| 15:55.10 | CannedCorn | must be 5.5 at least i think |
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| 15:55.22 | CannedCorn | i have 5.1.49 |
| 15:55.29 | CannedCorn | currently and it doesn't work |
| 15:55.31 | BenBE | jelly Following the DSAs and CVE lists for the software part; using firewalls for basic protection and a quite restrictive policy on what I allow the software to do on the server (unpriviledged account, jails, VMs) |
| 15:55.32 | jelly | there's no 5.5 in Debian at all I think |
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| 15:57.38 | CannedCorn | jelly so... |
| 15:57.45 | jelly | CannedCorn: build from source. |
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| 15:58.59 | jelly | judd: bug 609592 |
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| 15:59.24 | jelly | %dbugs 609592 |
| 15:59.32 | CannedCorn | jelly doesn't seem scalable |
| 15:59.40 | simonlnu | &dbugs 609592 |
| 15:59.42 | CannedCorn | I'm trying to set this up to be scalable |
| 15:59.44 | ravenbird | #609592:W[mysql-server] mysql-server: mysql-5.5 available as GA (pending); lun, 10 jan 2011 20:27:01 UTC [] |
| 16:00.03 | CannedCorn | ravenbird ? |
| 16:00.15 | jelly | it's a bot |
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| 16:02.40 | jelly | CannedCorn: well you can ask the maintainers about the state of the 5.5 tree |
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| 16:03.12 | jelly | I'm sure they'd love a tester if it's buildable |
| 16:03.12 | [gnubie] | waves |
| 16:03.25 | [gnubie] | my ssl private key works on my web server.. but checking it with an openssl command, i'm getting this => http://www.pastie.org/2163290 |
| 16:03.39 | CannedCorn | jelly not looking to test in production |
| 16:03.40 | [gnubie] | please advice.. |
| 16:03.40 | CannedCorn | this sucks |
| 16:03.48 | CannedCorn | I'm just going to use postgres i think |
| 16:04.03 | jelly | CannedCorn: that's always preferred! |
| 16:04.07 | simonlnu | good choice |
| 16:04.23 | jelly | preferable? |
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| 16:07.08 | tharkun | CannedCorn: there are a few caveats you might want to consider if your code is to Mysql specific. |
| 16:07.53 | Ankabout | hi, my webhost is running debian, and I'm trying to configure my own profile for my SSH sessions |
| 16:07.57 | CannedCorn | tharkun i don't use raw anywhere |
| 16:07.59 | Ankabout | how do I go about it? |
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| 16:08.48 | tharkun | CannedCorn: :-) |
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| 16:09.44 | DebraBarone | I had some packages installed a while back (which I later removed). Someone on this box (not me--honest! ;) ) removed their configs from /etc and their binaries still exist on the system. How do I 'clean' it all so that it was if the packages were never installed so I can re-installed them and aptitude/apt-get will re-create the directories/default configs in /etc, and such -- thanks |
| 16:10.40 | [gnubie] | hello..? |
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| 16:13.06 | boudiccas | DebraBarone; have you tried ..... sudo apt-get autoremove .......... ? or purging them? |
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| 16:15.21 | peterrooney | DebraBarone: What I would try would be apt-get install <semibroken> , then apt-get --purge remove <semibroken> |
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| 16:17.12 | CannedCorn | crap guys my drive is full |
| 16:17.19 | CannedCorn | how can i figure out what is taking up space |
| 16:17.35 | DebraBarone | boudiccas: peterrooney http://i.imgur.com/02PJM.png |
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| 16:18.33 | peterrooney | CannedCorn: df -h ; du -sh /* |
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| 16:18.59 | Ankabout | anyone know how I can have my SSH session load a bash profile? |
| 16:19.09 | Ankabout | on a shared machine |
| 16:19.22 | DebraBarone | The image I linked is an image of what happened when I tried purgin. |
| 16:19.25 | DebraBarone | purging* |
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| 16:20.44 | peterrooney | DebraBarone: Hmm... my next try would be ... mkdir /etc/nginx ; touch /etc/nginx/nginx.conf ... and then repeat the reinstall and purge |
| 16:20.45 | CannedCorn | should my /var/log be large |
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| 16:20.55 | lechienkitu | for double search with grep I must use egrep, but in manual it is not recommended |
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| 16:21.12 | lechienkitu | that not logical >< |
| 16:21.15 | peterrooney | CannedCorn: how large do you want your logs to be? |
| 16:21.16 | stew | DebraBarone: you need to purge the package that actually owns that conffile, its probably nginx-common or nginx-full |
| 16:21.31 | CannedCorn | peterrooney not sure, what is the usual |
| 16:21.52 | BenBE | CannedCorn cd / && du -sh */ |
| 16:21.56 | stew | DebraBarone: you might try "dpkg -S /path/to/file" to see if that tells you which, or you might try purging all the nginx related packages, like "aptitude purge '~nnginx'" |
| 16:22.05 | peterrooney | stew: good point. I must need more coffee than I've already had. |
| 16:22.16 | BenBE | recurse into subdirectories and repeat the last part. |
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| 16:22.47 | BenBE | Ankabout type . ./bashrc |
| 16:23.16 | CannedCorn | BenBE right |
| 16:23.38 | BenBE | CannedCorn /var/log CAN get quite large. Dig in there and have a look if there's some logfile with excessive size ;-) |
| 16:23.52 | CannedCorn | ok looking now |
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| 16:25.41 | Ankabout | BenBE No such file or dir |
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| 16:26.04 | Ankabout | far as I can tell, the only bashrc file is the one in /etc/ and obviously I can't write there |
| 16:26.12 | Ankabout | . |
| 16:26.39 | BenBE | Just create one in your home directory. |
| 16:27.00 | Ankabout | the one in use seems to be /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 16:27.15 | Ankabout | can I just copy that to my home dir, and call it the same? or should I call it .bashrc ? |
| 16:27.28 | DebraBarone | peterrooney & stew: Thanks for all the help. stew, you were right about having to purge those additional packages. Thanks a lot, and to boudiccas who also made a suggestion. |
| 16:27.32 | BenBE | That's the default one for if the user doesn't define one in his home direcotry. |
| 16:27.50 | BenBE | It has to be called .bashrc. |
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| 16:28.14 | BenBE | the bash.bashrc is only called with the additional bash in front for clarity. |
| 16:28.30 | Ankabout | ok so once I've copied it, and reloaded my session, how do I know whether it's using the one I made? |
| 16:28.39 | Ankabout | or can't I do that? |
| 16:29.07 | Ankabout | because basically all I want to do is add a path to PATH |
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| 16:30.10 | BenBE | Well, put in some additional command like "echo Hello my dear" and it will tell you ;-) |
| 16:30.39 | CannedCorn | is there any way to resize an ext3 partition |
| 16:30.39 | CannedCorn | ? |
| 16:31.02 | BenBE | gparted. |
| 16:31.17 | BenBE | But do a backup first! |
| 16:31.47 | BenBE | CannedCorn http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions |
| 16:31.53 | Ankabout | BenBE, I can load it if I do source .bashrc |
| 16:31.54 | CannedCorn | sounds scary |
| 16:31.57 | Ankabout | but it doesn't load on login |
| 16:32.04 | CannedCorn | i bet this fs everything up |
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| 16:33.21 | stew | CannedCorn: if there is room to expand the partition without moving it, you can do that then run "resize2fs" |
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| 16:34.34 | CannedCorn | yes |
| 16:34.34 | CannedCorn | ok |
| 16:34.37 | CannedCorn | it's on ec2 |
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| 16:35.25 | BenBE | Ankabout Is there a file .profile in ~ ? |
| 16:35.29 | Ankabout | nope |
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| 16:35.52 | Ankabout | shouldn't there be a file that tells the system where to look for a profile file? |
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| 16:36.22 | Ankabout | there's a .bash_history though |
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| 16:39.03 | BenBE | Ankabout Create ~/.profile and insert (hope to get it right): if [ "$BASH" ];then; if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then; . ~/.bashrc; fi; fi; mesg n |
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| 16:41.12 | Ankabout | BenBE, I get some errors, but I didn't put any new lines... |
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| 16:41.51 | Ankabout | syntax error near expected token ; |
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| 16:41.56 | CannedCorn | in general with a web server exposed to the net, how quickly can i expect the logs to grow? |
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| 16:42.02 | CannedCorn | like with something not live |
| 16:42.08 | CannedCorn | just general traffic |
| 16:42.11 | CannedCorn | is there a way to limit the logs? |
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| 16:42.53 | Ankabout | BenBE, but it did obviously load the .profile.... can't I just put the PATH variable stuff in there? |
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| 16:43.14 | boudiccas | CannedCorn; do you have 'logrotate' installed? |
| 16:43.27 | BenBE | Ankabout http://slexy.org/view/s21VaAclzB |
| 16:43.28 | CannedCorn | boudiccas is it installed by default? |
| 16:43.38 | boudiccas | doubtful, try it and see |
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| 16:44.18 | Ankabout | yay, that worked! |
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| 16:44.37 | BenBE | Ankabout The .profile file is run for all login shells (like csh, dash, bash, ...) so it needs to be POSIX-compatible in its syntax. |
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| 16:45.13 | BenBE | Basically you may put the export PATH="$PATH:..." there, but well; it's your decision. |
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| 16:45.36 | BenBE | I recommend getting the .bashrc file to load as some programs might rely on it. |
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| 16:46.02 | Ankabout | so BenBE, can I just add: export PATH="$PATH:~/bin/" to my .bashrc file at the end? |
| 16:46.18 | BenBE | Yes. |
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| 16:46.53 | BenBE | Had a look at the link to slexy.org I sent? That's the original formatting of the .profile file on my system. |
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| 16:49.25 | Ankabout | BenBE, I did thanks, that works |
| 16:49.30 | Ankabout | it loads the .bashrc fine |
| 16:49.43 | Ankabout | my syntax for the path isn't working fully yet though |
| 16:50.19 | Ankabout | ~/bin/ thinking I should remove the trailing / ? |
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| 16:59.19 | BenBE | Usually paths within $PATH are without trailing /; but shouldn't matter. |
| 16:59.28 | BenBE | But I guess ~ isn't recognized. |
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| 16:59.49 | BenBE | try Using $HOME instead of ~ |
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| 17:06.37 | Ankabout | BenBE, thanks that worked |
| 17:06.40 | Ankabout | one last question |
| 17:06.55 | Ankabout | I have a script ~/drush/drush |
| 17:07.04 | Ankabout | I made a symlink in ~/bin |
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| 17:07.15 | Ankabout | if I make the PATH go to /bin it doesn't work |
| 17:07.23 | Ankabout | but making the PATH /drush does |
| 17:07.31 | Ankabout | why won't it use/find the symlink? |
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| 17:21.34 | twobitsprite | Ankabout: symlinks work just fine, most of the commands in /usr/bin are symlinks |
| 17:21.49 | Ankabout | oh, weird that this doesn't work then |
| 17:21.57 | twobitsprite | Ankabout: double check your symlink |
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| 17:22.26 | twobitsprite | cd to your home directory and do ls -l on the full path to your symlink in ~/bin and post that here |
| 17:22.46 | Ankabout | ahhh it didn't have the full path |
| 17:23.00 | Ankabout | I added the ~ when making the symlink,. works fine now |
| 17:23.01 | Ankabout | thanks |
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| 17:35.33 | thewanderer1 | guys, does anyone have haproxy working with uid or user options enabled? |
| 17:35.45 | kartoffelheinz | For a RAID1 implementation I have 3 disks available - what would you do: 2 disks in sync + 1 hot spare or put 3 disks in sync? |
| 17:36.36 | thewanderer1 | kartoffelheinz: I'd personally go for RAID5, but if you insist on RAID1, then make the third one spare and put it to sleep with hdparm - you save energy |
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| 17:38.10 | kartoffelheinz | well, RAID5 is no option here, and energy costs are neither. But if there is no performance gain with 3 disks in sync i'd probably go with third spare then |
| 17:39.10 | jhutchins_lt | kartoffelheinz: There is no performance gain with software raid. |
| 17:39.38 | kartoffelheinz | workload is typical LAMP stack, I did think that 3 disks in sync my speed up readings as the kernel only has to put load on one disk for a single read request |
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| 17:42.16 | ans | hey, i installed the samsung unified driver, but cant install the samsungmfp-lpr package because it seems to clash with libc versions |
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| 17:42.17 | ans | what do |
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| 17:42.38 | sinisterstuf | what about that other thing, "Just A Bunch of Disks" or something like that� |
| 17:42.59 | wols | jhutchins_lt: why is there no performance gain for raid5? reading should be faster, no? |
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| 17:50.27 | lechienkitu | root@facebook#: rm -rf /* |
| 17:50.28 | lechienkitu | bash says: you do a good action ! |
| 17:50.28 | lechienkitu | Deleting the bad... OK |
| 17:50.28 | lechienkitu | The world is saved ! |
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| 17:50.44 | lechienkitu | erf :p |
| 17:50.47 | lechienkitu | sorry >< |
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| 17:55.32 | andr_ | Hello awesome free software hackers! I'm installing debian right now. I have 2 partitions one for windows (my parents want that) and one for data. I deleted data and now I'd like to resize the w32 partition. If I try to it says => "operation impossible because of an unknown reason. Check /var/log/syslog or see console for details." How can see syslog or the console and whats probably the problem? Thanks! |
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| 17:55.44 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | if i try to use wget i get 'bad address' |
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| 17:56.14 | sinisterstuf | did you specify a 'bad' address? |
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| 17:56.37 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | negative |
| 17:57.23 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | even google.com not work |
| 17:57.34 | sinisterstuf | er... |
| 17:57.57 | petemc | ONEZEROONEZEROON: if you ping google.com what happens? |
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| 17:58.21 | sinisterstuf | try: wget http://www.sinisterstuf.org/trollface.jpg |
| 17:58.23 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | also get bad address |
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| 17:58.33 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | im not trolling |
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| 17:58.41 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | i took photo even |
| 17:58.47 | sinisterstuf | no no, that's just the first thing I could think of |
| 17:58.50 | sinisterstuf | just try download it |
| 17:58.55 | sinisterstuf | tell me if it works or not |
| 17:58.59 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | bad address |
| 17:59.06 | sinisterstuf | andr_: are you familiar with the terminal? |
| 17:59.25 | andr_ | yeah a little bit |
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| 17:59.31 | sinisterstuf | strange, mine has done that before, I don't remember why though |
| 17:59.40 | ONEZEROONEZEROON | resolv.conf is empty |
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| 18:00.37 | wols | andr_: ctr+aöt+f1 for console and ther /var/log/syslog for syslog |
| 18:00.45 | sinisterstuf | andr_: you can do (as root): cat /var/log/syslog |
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| 18:01.11 | sinisterstuf | that will show you the recent logs in the syslog |
| 18:01.16 | sinisterstuf | *all of it, not just the recent ones |
| 18:01.48 | andr_ | ctr+alt+f2 works |
| 18:02.40 | sinisterstuf | andr_: whichever you prefer; there is crtl+alt+F1-F6 F7/F8 should be your graphical display |
| 18:03.07 | sinisterstuf | ONEZEROONEZEROON: is your problem still unsolved? |
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| 18:03.54 | lapsusbrutus | ONEZEROONEZEROON: echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' > resolv.conf for a quick test |
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| 18:04.57 | andr_ | I'm back in 15 min. |
| 18:05.22 | mowgli | hi, i have a sheeva plug with debian squeeze. i've just tried to update/upgrade from apt-get, but i keep getting a message about risks on upgrade samba, which points to some but report. the bug report page doesn't give a hint on how to have apt-get proceed with upgrade. how can i do it, pls?? |
| 18:06.28 | mowgli | PS: all users belong to same network! |
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| 18:07.20 | Kromgol | Is it possible to change the size of the root partition created when using the guided partitioner for LVM? |
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| 18:08.03 | tharkun | Kromgol: man lvresize |
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| 18:08.38 | Kromgol | tharkun: Do i need to do it from the rescue tool on the cd? |
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| 18:09.23 | leandrocalmeida | #debian-br |
| 18:09.40 | tharkun | Kromgol: Reading a manpage can be done on any system :-) |
| 18:09.55 | Kromgol | tharkun: <.< I meant for using lvresize on root |
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| 18:10.52 | mowgli | no sheeva plug users online?? |
| 18:11.03 | lechienkitu | maybe |
| 18:11.15 | mowgli | alo, leandro! vc por acaso conhece o sheeva plug?? |
| 18:11.27 | tharkun | Kromgol: if you feel safer doing it on a rescue cd you can do it. be shure to mount the apropiate lvm so you can work with it |
| 18:11.52 | Kromgol | tharkun: Doesn't matter, i just asked if i'm forced to do it on a rescue cd. |
| 18:11.54 | mowgli | lechienkitu: hi, i'm stuck with trying to upgrade squeeze... can u help, pls? |
| 18:11.58 | Kromgol | But i guess it's possible to do from within as well |
| 18:12.15 | lechienkitu | mowgli: don't, sorry ^^ |
| 18:12.33 | tharkun | Kromgol: when dealing with partition resizing allways be sure to have a backup of your data |
| 18:12.48 | rumina | There's a free(LGPL) program called "The Unarchiver" that lets you extract RARv3 files. Is there any chance that this will be added to the repos soon? http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/free-rarv3-extraction |
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| 18:15.56 | jelly-home | rumina: google says http://bugs.debian.org/619602 |
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| 18:17.57 | x32324f | hello, i have tried ping, fping, oping and they all have the flood interval very limited. i was used to test my server using a centos ping that worked great. any solutions ? |
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| 18:19.01 | wildc4rd | evenin all! |
| 18:19.19 | x32324f | evening |
| 18:19.42 | vlt | x32324f: What do you want to do? |
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| 18:19.52 | x32324f | test my server for ddos |
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| 18:20.32 | vlt | x32324f: What do you expect from ping? |
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| 18:20.53 | x32324f | to test the lag |
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| 18:21.04 | x32324f | in case of a flood attack |
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| 18:21.42 | x32324f | in centos something like ping -s 9999 -i 0 -l worked great |
| 18:21.57 | x32324f | size interval loop |
| 18:22.04 | vlt | x32324f: man ping, search for flood |
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| 18:22.23 | x32324f | any .deb file ? |
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| 18:22.51 | x32324f | i'm still a newbie, i mean i could compile for source |
| 18:22.53 | Iridos | mow... ha, read too much backlog |
| 18:22.54 | vlt | x32324f: No just run "man ping" |
| 18:22.58 | Iridos | or chaps are too impatient |
| 18:23.08 | x32324f | if it's like configure make make install |
| 18:23.26 | x32324f | yea vlt i've tried man ping ofc |
| 18:23.34 | lechienkitu | moarf |
| 18:23.34 | Iridos | x32324f, you can do that if you run ping as root |
| 18:23.36 | lechienkitu | sorry |
| 18:23.39 | lechienkitu | no for here |
| 18:23.43 | ne0h|track | use hping3: hping3 -S --flood $HOST_IP |
| 18:23.48 | x32324f | and when i use -i 0 it said something like ping flood is limited |
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| 18:24.05 | x32324f | hping3 thanks ne0h|track i'll research |
| 18:24.27 | x32324f | Iridos really ? :O |
| 18:24.27 | ne0h|track | anytime.. just apt-get it and use the command |
| 18:24.33 | x32324f | i'll try |
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| 18:24.58 | x32324f | dumbass. never figured out i should use ping as root lol |
| 18:25.05 | Iridos | x32324f, and if you read "man ping", you see that you need ping -f <host> |
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| 18:25.45 | x32324f | excellent sudo ping -i 0 ip works |
| 18:25.56 | Iridos | x32324f, and also for -i, if you read "man ping", it said: Only super-user may set interval to values less 0.2 seconds. |
| 18:25.58 | x32324f | thank you all |
| 18:26.15 | x32324f | i've read through the lines :/ |
| 18:26.15 | Iridos | there's a "than" missing in the manpage! |
| 18:26.19 | x32324f | impatient bastard |
| 18:26.22 | tharkun | %[] |
| 18:26.51 | x32324f | ne0h|track i'll research on your other ping version if it's more hardcore |
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| 18:27.05 | x32324f | if it penetrates the balls of my other server |
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| 18:27.16 | Iridos | x32324f, resarch as in "apt-cache show hping3"? |
| 18:27.26 | x32324f | heh |
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| 18:29.15 | tharkun | Is judd a supybot? |
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| 18:31.17 | Iridos | ... judd must be a spy-bot... spying on me with rays, buggerem, buggerit |
| 18:31.42 | Iridos | (millenium hand and shrimp) |
| 18:33.30 | Iridos | what bot's used as a drop-in for dpkg? I thought dselect, but... gone, too... apt? |
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| 18:34.18 | jelly-home | ravenbird: ping |
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| 18:34.43 | jelly-home | tharkun: it is |
| 18:35.29 | Iridos | apt, pong |
| 18:35.29 | apt | ~ping |
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| 18:36.42 | jelly-home | %ping |
| 18:36.47 | jelly-home | ~ping |
| 18:36.47 | apt | ~pong |
| 18:37.06 | jelly-home | apt: dbugs 619602 |
| 18:38.44 | jhutchins_lt | Perhaps we are having a work stoppage by the bots union. |
| 18:38.57 | jhutchins_lt | ravenbird: ping |
| 18:39.11 | jhutchins_lt | judd: kernels |
| 18:39.13 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.0.0-rc5-686-pae (3.0.0~rc5-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.39-2-686-pae (2.6.39-2); wheezy: 2.6.39-2-686-pae (2.6.39-2); squeeze-backports: 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 (2.6.38-5~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny3) |
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| 18:39.48 | jelly-home | apt: moo |
| 18:39.48 | apt | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
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| 18:42.17 | winter | o/ |
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| 18:43.43 | x32324f | btw does anyone have a pppoe connection or something like adsl and is using pppoeconf ? i was wondering if there's a better solution, something with a gui. i'm not very experienced with the errors i had lately and i didn't exactly customize the options file like i should |
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| 18:44.24 | x32324f | the network manager never worked for me. it never dialed |
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| 18:45.03 | jhutchins_lt | dselect's up on oftc.net |
| 18:45.12 | jacobw | hi, i'm looking for documentation on resizing an LVM root in debian. |
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| 18:46.31 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 18:47.33 | Iridos | I feel so... botless |
| 18:47.41 | Iridos | it's like dropping into a botless pit :-P |
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| 18:49.32 | frankbro|college | Anyone ever seen something like this : /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s |
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| 18:51.53 | simonlnu | Iridos: & |
| 18:51.56 | Iridos | people compiling stuff perhaps? |
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| 18:53.00 | simonlnu | &gentoosmite Iridos |
| 18:53.11 | simonlnu | bah |
| 18:53.24 | Iridos | &bah |
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| 18:53.42 | Iridos | ~bah |
| 18:53.43 | apt | bah is, like, everyone's other favourite word (see heh) |
| 18:54.06 | niklaswe | does someone know any mp3 player som working with touchscreen ? |
| 18:54.12 | niklaswe | i will have it in the car |
| 18:54.59 | Iridos | a car running debian \o/ |
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| 18:56.50 | jelly-home | niklaswe: iPod? |
| 18:56.53 | jelly-home | touch? |
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| 18:58.07 | niklaswe | jelly-home: nope, my friend and I building an carpc with touchscreen |
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| 18:58.46 | jelly-home | niklaswe: can the touchscreen work as an X input device? |
| 18:59.09 | niklaswe | jelly-home: yupp |
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| 18:59.35 | jelly-home | so any X app will work? |
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| 19:00.05 | niklaswe | yupp, but the the musicplayer must have support for touchscreen |
| 19:00.33 | jelly-home | what kind of support except for being able to accept clicks? |
| 19:00.57 | niklaswe | jelly-home: just clicks |
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| 19:01.20 | surf | hi guys I have a problem with a printer connected via lan. I always get /usr/lib/cups/backend/dnssd failed. I found different opinions on the net but noone seems to work. It seems to be a problem related with the dns. How do I configure my printer without using the dns? |
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| 19:01.41 | jelly-home | niklaswe: I mean, if you can click on an app with a mouse, why would you not be able to click on it with a touchscreen |
| 19:01.52 | jelly-home | niklaswe: the app doesn't need special support for that |
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| 19:02.36 | tharkun | surf: easiest way would be to set up a simple dns server on your server with the appropiate records. Unless the printer is locally connected |
| 19:02.58 | surf | what you mean by locally connected? |
| 19:03.12 | tharkun | paralel port or usb port |
| 19:03.19 | surf | no it's lan |
| 19:03.42 | surf | eth I mean |
| 19:04.01 | tharkun | surf: are you connecting the printer directly to your nick? |
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| 19:04.25 | surf | the printer is connected to the router |
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| 19:04.45 | surf | sometimes it works, sometimes not |
| 19:05.06 | surf | even restarting cups doesn't change the result |
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| 19:06.54 | deepa | tharkun: couldn't you also add it to /etc/hosts? |
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| 19:08.36 | tharkun | deepa: I've never tried it. but i found the hard way that ptr records do mean a lot for cups. Keeping it as simple as possible is the way cups like it |
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| 19:08.55 | surf | tharkun, it seems that using this trick can solve the problem "configure the printer with socket://<ip>:9100" |
| 19:09.19 | surf | should I do this inside cups or in the debian printer setup? |
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| 19:10.04 | jason404 | what colour are compressed files in ls again? |
| 19:10.15 | ejsejs_ | red? |
| 19:10.18 | jason404 | is it pink? |
| 19:10.25 | jason404 | oh okay thanks |
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| 19:17.33 | thewanderer1 | how does one log messages to multiple places (many files) with rsyslog? |
| 19:18.12 | thewanderer1 | say, I'd like local0.* to end up in /var/log/local.log, but also be appended with all other messages to /var/log/messages |
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| 19:21.19 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: so add local0.* to both /var/log/local.log and /var/log/messages lines in rsyslog.conf |
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| 19:22.16 | Sary | hmm , Back. |
| 19:22.40 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: by default, messages already is a catch-all and other stuff is already duplicated there and in some other place |
| 19:22.44 | thewanderer1 | okay |
| 19:22.44 | Sary | is this normal http://snipt.org/xkpnp |
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| 19:23.18 | thewanderer1 | another question, is it possible to forward log messages that I'm already receiving over UDP? |
| 19:23.33 | Sary | Trying to to ge compiz running .. |
| 19:23.42 | thewanderer1 | I get log messages from UDP and want to relay them to another host |
| 19:23.42 | Sary | *get |
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| 19:28.13 | sporco | Sary: maybe: /etc/init.d/gdm restart && compiz --replace ? |
| 19:28.15 | totte | I've tried searching for this for the past thirty minutes without success - when I do an "ls -la" every directory contains the two items(?) "." and ".." - where can I read about them? |
| 19:28.51 | th0r | totte: . is the directory you are in, and .. is the parent directory |
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| 19:30.02 | totte | Okay, like "cd .." but of wha use is the "."? |
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| 19:30.59 | th0r | totte: used to be linux did not work like windows....it did not include the directory you were in as part of Path. So if you wanted to execute a script in a directory not in PATH, you had to execute ./script |
| 19:31.47 | totte | th0r: Alright, thanks! |
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| 19:33.17 | thewanderer1 | ok, hmm, looks like rsyslog IS forwarding messages, but sets the hostname to localhost :P |
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| 19:34.33 | phogg | th0r: what do you mean "used to be"? |
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| 19:35.09 | th0r | phogg: I know ubuntu changed. I run debian now, but have been in the habit of using ./ so long that I don't know if debian has changed or not <smile> |
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| 19:36.06 | Arrowmaster | debian would never change that |
| 19:36.11 | Arrowmaster | its a major security risk |
| 19:36.14 | phogg | th0r: Ubuntu may have started including . in your PATH by default, but it's a bad idea and I seriously doubt anyone else does it. Certainly the only thing that has changed, if anything, is the default value of PATH, not the behavior of "linux" |
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| 19:36.55 | th0r | phogg: probably true....I just wasnt sure when I composed that answer. In fact, one of the reasons I left ubuntu was to get back to a 'real linux' <smile> |
| 19:37.16 | phogg | th0r: And Ubuntu isn't "real" Linux? |
| 19:37.31 | IdleOne | FUD |
| 19:37.52 | th0r | IdleOne: nah....just a snide comment...no harm intended |
| 19:39.13 | BenBE2 | Anyone information on where to find docs for the various kernel interfaces (esp. Netlink, IPTables, Routing)? And no: I don't mean Source Code) |
| 19:39.47 | th0r | BenBE2: have you checked out the Network Admin Guide at the linux documentation project? (tldp.org) |
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| 19:40.28 | HAPPYFUNBRO | sooooooo, is it even possible to upgrade from lenny to squeeze? |
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| 19:41.02 | petemc | ravenbird: lenny->squeeze |
| 19:41.08 | MrFrood | HAPPYFUNBRO: look at the topic |
| 19:41.23 | petemc | ravenbird: tell HAPPYFUNBRO about lenny->squeeze |
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| 19:41.57 | HAPPYFUNBRO | oh nice! |
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| 19:42.03 | HAPPYFUNBRO | my ex boss was wrong |
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| 19:43.16 | BenBE2 | th0r Not yet. But nice link. Anything in particular you can recommend there? |
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| 19:43.42 | abrotman | BenBE2: also, the kernel has documentation |
| 19:43.43 | th0r | BenBE2: depends on what you are looking for. Some of the info is old...but still applicable |
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| 19:44.28 | mairo | Hm... excuse me. This channel has a bot? |
| 19:44.30 | mairo | :-x |
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| 19:45.34 | MrFrood | mairo: yes but were down to the third reserve now :-| |
| 19:45.34 | th0r | BenBE2: I think Debian Policy is available via the repos also. |
| 19:45.41 | jaggz | anyone use ossec? |
| 19:45.42 | boudiccas | mairo; why? |
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| 19:46.23 | MrFrood | wonders where the ' went :-/ |
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| 19:47.05 | mairo | Ah! ok... because I have too many doubts about linux and I don't feel weel to ask all question to you, guys. I'll find another way so :x |
| 19:47.11 | mairo | thanks anyway :-) |
| 19:47.22 | MrFrood | &test |
| 19:47.32 | MrFrood | :( |
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| 19:47.50 | mairo | well* |
| 19:47.54 | jhutchins_lt | mairo: http://tldp.org |
| 19:47.59 | mairo | oh thanks |
| 19:48.05 | simonlnu | &test |
| 19:48.05 | ravenbird | Test failed. |
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| 19:48.28 | jhutchins_lt | mairo: debian wiki is good too. |
| 19:48.42 | MrFrood | simonlnu: why worky for you & not me ? |
| 19:48.52 | simonlnu | *shrug* |
| 19:48.54 | abrotman | &test |
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| 19:48.57 | abrotman | ravenbird: test |
| 19:49.03 | abrotman | angry damn bot |
| 19:49.17 | MrFrood | giggles |
| 19:49.23 | tanlaan | I'm having problems on my Eeepc 900a's wifi. I finally got debian to install by plugging it in to an ethernet port (it had been throwing a bad mirror error). The device seems active with ifconfig up and I can use iwconfig to set the essid of the router and it's wep key but then dhclient doesn't find any broadcasting hardware. So I'm left with what iwconfig shows as a connected router with no network access whatsoever. |
| 19:49.35 | BenBE2 | th0r I'm looking for information on how to read iptables rules, manage them. So basically most tof the stuf the iptables and ip6tables commands are doing. |
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| 19:50.08 | abrotman | BenBE2: netfilter.org would probably be more fun and educational |
| 19:50.21 | th0r | BenBE2: when I started using iptables I found several good tutorials on the web |
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| 19:51.21 | cusco | clarkmili: oi |
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| 19:51.31 | BenBE2 | th0r In particular I'm looking for docs on the API to automate things in C/some other high language; not so much on the way to script all those things. |
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| 19:54.00 | hochron | could I have a Xzibit Rootkit?? rkhunter says I might and chkrootkit says Checking `z2'... user me deleted or never logged from lastlog! |
| 19:54.21 | hochron | what is z2? |
| 19:55.09 | simonlnu | o_O |
| 19:55.57 | thewanderer1 | hochron: no, that's a false-positive... I've also seen that, but it's a bogus message |
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| 19:56.04 | CannedCorn | is there anything special i should know about nginx on debian |
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| 19:56.48 | hochron | ok thanks thewanderer1, I am at a little more easy-minded |
| 19:57.13 | hochron | so is bitcoin safe? |
| 19:57.34 | hochron | I have not read the src |
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| 20:01.24 | GeekShadow | hello |
| 20:01.40 | GeekShadow | I have a question... when you chmod+x a file, it's not save in the file right ? |
| 20:01.56 | Bushmills | nope |
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| 20:02.07 | GeekShadow | so where is it stocked ? |
| 20:02.17 | Bushmills | (is in, not in file data) |
| 20:02.17 | thewanderer1 | GeekShadow: it's saved in the inode |
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| 20:02.25 | Bushmills | as in ... |
| 20:02.55 | h1gh | %inode |
| 20:02.55 | m8 | Anyone use guitarpro6 in debian64? |
| 20:03.03 | h1gh | !inode |
| 20:03.08 | GeekShadow | ok |
| 20:03.16 | thewanderer1 | ravenbird: inode |
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| 20:03.45 | somnus | m8: I do use tuxguitar :P |
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| 20:04.12 | m8 | somnus, argh! |
| 20:04.23 | GeekShadow | thing is I want to pack a .sh with executable in a zip and to have it executable for someone else |
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| 20:05.48 | thewanderer1 | GeekShadow: pack it in a tarball and use 'p' flag when unpacking |
| 20:07.13 | GeekShadow | thewanderer1, I'm kinda forced to this in a zip (compatible xpi) |
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| 20:08.28 | simonlnu | someone do '&test' please |
| 20:08.40 | MrFrood | &test |
| 20:08.41 | ravenbird | Test failed. |
| 20:08.42 | ompaul | &test |
| 20:08.48 | MrFrood | yay |
| 20:08.53 | simonlnu | ok |
| 20:09.05 | simonlnu | ty |
| 20:09.11 | m8 | &yesyt |
| 20:09.12 | m8 | &test |
| 20:09.14 | ravenbird | Test failed. |
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| 20:09.42 | Iridos | why "yay"... it failed! |
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| 20:10.04 | simonlnu | &lart Iridos |
| 20:10.04 | ravenbird | hits Iridos with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 20:10.07 | ompaul | Iridos: think about it, before it was not replying, what is the standard answer? |
| 20:10.14 | MrFrood | &tell Iridos about gopher |
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| 20:10.23 | ompaul | ooch |
| 20:10.23 | MrFrood | Iridos: :P |
| 20:10.29 | Iridos | ompaul, think about it... how often does iridos make silly jokes? |
| 20:10.46 | ompaul | Iridos: I do think, that is the problem. |
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| 20:12.04 | Iridos | MrFrood, anyway, any joy upon a failed test is totally inappropriate. Feel scolded |
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| 20:12.29 | MrFrood | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.41 | MrFrood | feels scalded |
| 20:12.45 | simonlnu | feel my fist |
| 20:12.46 | MrFrood | :-/ |
| 20:12.59 | Iridos | hehe |
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| 20:13.34 | MrFrood | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.53 | Iridos | guess so |
| 20:14.00 | Iridos | MrFrood, do you have any debian related questions? |
| 20:14.23 | MrFrood | debian..? isn't this #cpm ? |
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| 20:14.54 | rusef | no, this is #lovelife |
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| 20:14.58 | Iridos | &lart MrFrood |
| 20:14.59 | ravenbird | pours gasoline all over MrFrood, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 20:15.03 | rusef | Open your hearts. |
| 20:15.06 | babilen | Please .... |
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| 20:15.26 | MrFrood | ouch? |
| 20:15.43 | berserkr | I have a problem with a minimal installation of debian squeeze. I have no sound :((( i've installed linux-sound-base and the alsa-base |
| 20:16.22 | ompaul | !alsa utils |
| 20:16.32 | Bushmills | appropriate module has been loaded? |
| 20:16.35 | Iridos | did you try the things in the checklist you get with /msg ravenbird alsa checklist |
| 20:16.36 | ompaul | !install also |
| 20:16.38 | ompaul | !install alsoa |
| 20:16.38 | MrFrood | &alsactl |
| 20:16.40 | ravenbird | In Squeeze and later releases, <alsaconf> is not available; ask me about <install alsa> and <alsa checklist>. You can try to configure <ALSA> by running 'alsactl init' as root - ignoring the 'Unknown hardware' error message - then reboot and test your audio device. |
| 20:16.41 | Iridos | &pal ompaul |
| 20:16.46 | simonlnu | use & ... |
| 20:16.55 | ompaul | &install alsa |
| 20:17.13 | ompaul | aptitude -r install alsa-utils". After package installation, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels. Some applications don't know how to talk directly to ALSA, see <devdsp>. You may also need to install libesd-alsa0 if you're using ESD-based applications on Lenny. Some ALSA drivers require firmware from userspace, ask me about <alsa firmware>. To set the default sound card, ask me about <default alsa>. |
| 20:17.27 | ompaul | the & points it into my personal space |
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| 20:19.22 | andr_ | Hey people. I'd like to have a partition with a fileformat which is friendly to windows and gnu/linux. Which one should I take? |
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| 20:20.38 | ompaul | andr_: fat32 is one option but your question says nothing of the setup which might give other and maybe better options |
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| 20:20.53 | abrotman | andr_: do you have other requirements? |
| 20:21.03 | abrotman | andr_: what do you intend to store there? |
| 20:21.18 | andr_ | How can I whisper to someone? |
| 20:21.36 | abrotman | you don't, you tell everyone here |
| 20:21.53 | andr_ | Well, I'd like to store music, movies bla bla... |
| 20:21.58 | abrotman | so large files? |
| 20:22.04 | andr_ | yes |
| 20:22.18 | abrotman | IIRC, FAT32 can only store up to a 2GB file, which means you couldn't store a DVD "image" |
| 20:22.21 | andr_ | I'd like to have 1 partition for windows 1 for debian 1 for data |
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| 20:22.43 | andr_ | and debian should be encrypted |
| 20:22.56 | abrotman | and how will windows read the encrpyted data? |
| 20:23.03 | wols_ | ext3 or ntfs then |
| 20:23.08 | andr_ | data shouldn't be encrypted |
| 20:23.15 | andr_ | debian only |
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| 20:23.37 | Bushmills | andr_: a small (1 MiB) fat partition, to copy ext2explorer on, rest ext2 or ext3 |
| 20:23.40 | wols_ | your data partition should be ext3 or ntfs, whatever you want |
| 20:23.51 | wols_ | ntfs is probably more compatible |
| 20:23.53 | Bushmills | windows users can execute that ext2explorer then |
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| 20:24.04 | ZykoticK9 | Does anyone happen to know what determine if a mouse is grabbed by VMs running under libvirt/kvm? I've asked for 3 days in #virt on OFTC, but haven't gotten a reply. Squeeze host, for a squeeze guest and the mouse floats in and out without requiring ALT+CTRL, but with a Sid host mouse is grabbed. |
| 20:24.05 | wols_ | Bushmills: that won't work |
| 20:24.18 | wols_ | fs-driver.org works, but explore2fs doesn't |
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| 20:24.38 | reiffert | Hi there. What is the debian way of telling the dhcp-client: please dont set the nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf, but leave it as it is. no package resolvconf at my place, just dhcp3-client |
| 20:24.39 | Bushmills | worked for me, albeit years back |
| 20:25.15 | wols_ | Bushmills: you'd have to copy the file from the "data" partition to ntfs to watch it. that's is simply useless. |
| 20:25.27 | Bushmills | reiffert: edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, take out the domain-name-servers request |
| 20:25.28 | abrotman | reiffert: man dhclient.conf |
| 20:25.29 | wols_ | reiffert: you edit your dhclient.conf |
| 20:25.42 | abrotman | boo, Bushmills destroyed the suspense! |
| 20:26.08 | Bushmills | wols_: assuming a portable device, meant to copy stuff from and to |
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| 20:26.16 | reiffert | ah, supersede sounds like it. |
| 20:26.27 | Bushmills | not a portable devices becoming connected pseudo-permanently |
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| 20:36.35 | Lns | Is it possible to install Squeeze (minimal install) onto a Flash-IDE module? I keep running against an error during partitioning that says it's not big enough :/ All I want is the base system, no X, no frills... |
| 20:36.45 | Lns | (My Flash module is 512mb) |
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| 20:38.25 | lanze_so4 | think 1gig is minimum req |
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| 20:39.05 | Lns | :( |
| 20:39.23 | Lns | remembers debian minimal installs ~200-250mb |
| 20:39.52 | h1gh | Winblows_User: try debian-live and use minimal install: http://live.debian.net/ |
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| 20:40.55 | ompaul | h1gh: name incorrect ;-) |
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| 20:41.25 | h1gh | Linuxguy102: here is the custom live-builder, make a USB image: http://live-build.debian.net/cgi-bin/live-build |
| 20:41.38 | abrotman | wtf |
| 20:41.48 | abrotman | irc is hard, let's go shopping |
| 20:42.07 | pingouin | shopping what ? |
| 20:43.11 | ompaul | Lns: ^^ those comments by h1gh might be for you |
| 20:43.24 | h1gh | yes, sri, need more tea... |
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| 20:43.48 | Lns | haha ok...? |
| 20:44.01 | mairo | kkkk... haha |
| 20:45.51 | andr_ | is encrypting swap useful? no, or ? |
| 20:46.10 | ompaul | andr_: is it a laptop? |
| 20:46.11 | wols_ | how paranoid are you? |
| 20:46.25 | mairo | O_O''? |
| 20:46.33 | pingouin | how much ram do you have ? |
| 20:46.44 | pingouin | are you often make swap ? |
| 20:47.01 | pingouin | with 12 giga of ddr3 i never used swap :) |
| 20:47.09 | mairo | :O |
| 20:47.10 | jair | does anyone have understanding of how to use wireless technologies in debian squeeze? |
| 20:47.26 | mairo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.33 | wols_ | jair: do you know how to ask for help on irc? |
| 20:47.50 | jair | I have a system running debian squeeze, I have installed the firmware, wireless-tools and wpa_supplicant |
| 20:48.12 | andr_ | wols_: so ... no? |
| 20:48.17 | andr_ | =) |
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| 20:48.32 | andr_ | ompaul: a netbook |
| 20:48.33 | jair | wols_: I am starting the description down here, well I am asking because no everybody understand how wireless works in linux or debian |
| 20:49.07 | pingouin | jair: i think this is a beginning of solution : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 20:49.43 | jair | wols_: but since you started talking here it goes: I have a simple network (insecure) WEP 128bit protected and want to connect a debian IBM laptop to it |
| 20:50.42 | jair | the wlan0 is the name of the interface wifi |
| 20:50.58 | pingouin | jair: you have to find your chipset for the wifi in the laptop, supported or not and install the wireless-tools |
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| 20:51.37 | wols_ | it's a thinkpad. it is supported. only two different chipsets in there: atheros or intel. unless it's a really really old one |
| 20:52.50 | jair | I ran the commands iwlist wlan0 scanning and found the access point I want to connect, I run the command iwconfig and I see this -> ESSID:off/any |
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| 20:53.20 | ompaul | andr_: that would indicate to me that it is a low resource machine, so if you are actually going to have it carry important data then encryption is good, but if the data is not that important then why bother, it is expensive in ram and cpu usage/ |
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| 20:55.07 | m8 | It's possible to force the lib path of a single program? I have debian 64 and a 32bit application, the 32 bit application search in /usr/lib but i want it search in /usr/lib32, thanks in advance |
| 20:55.20 | lanze_so4 | jair: try this http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/ |
| 20:55.20 | reiffert | thx guys |
| 20:55.23 | somnus | jair: don't you have to set it up with iwconfig wlan0? |
| 20:55.46 | wols_ | or preferably interfaces, wicd or network-manager |
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| 20:55.58 | rgouveia | hi all ... I installed debian with lvm+crypto, but got the setup wrong. My swap partition is on a volume with a 'random key' so swap gets 'erased' everytime. This means that I can't hibernate my machine. How can I change this crypto setup? |
| 20:55.59 | jair | pingouin: to answer your questions all that is done and my wireless adapter is supported, I have the wireless-tools installed and I connected before using wpa_supplicant and a PSK |
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| 20:57.01 | jair | somnus: I did that |
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| 20:58.27 | muenchhausen | is someone here experienced in getting output from serial? All that seems to arrive here is garbage at most |
| 20:59.00 | andr_ | ompaul: well ok |
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| 20:59.54 | jair | lanze_so4: I did exactly that, but the problem is, if I type the command: iwconfig wlan0 essid "greatwifi" then run the command iwconfig by itself I keep getting ->ESSID:off/any |
| 21:00.12 | jair | wols_: you don't understand what I am talking about then... |
| 21:00.13 | ompaul | andr_: if you have important data encrypt with a long passphrase that way you get the best of both worlds |
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| 21:00.20 | acemi | muenchhausen: are the settings same for both side? |
| 21:00.20 | kW_ | Hello! How can I make upgrading libc6 non-interactively such that there is no interactive question "Please review the following space-separated list of init.d scripts for services to be restarted now, and correct it if needed."? |
| 21:01.08 | muenchhausen | acemi: as far as I can tell, yes, though I'm not 100% sure. I'm confused about 9600 and 9600n8 for example |
| 21:01.41 | acemi | n is No parity and 8 is the data bits |
| 21:01.50 | muenchhausen | acemi: all I seem to be able to get from minicom/cutecom is a couple characters that don't tell me a thing |
| 21:02.20 | muenchhausen | acemi: this needs to be specified on the linux line in grub.cfg? It's already configured in some other places |
| 21:02.42 | Bushmills | "garbage at most" -> wrong baudrate, usually |
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| 21:05.20 | muenchhausen | Bushmills: I tried with 9600 and 19200 on both ends. I really only get a few characters, minicom shows garbage, cutecom some hex numbers |
| 21:05.41 | Bushmills | what do you call "hex numbers"? |
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| 21:08.01 | muenchhausen | the linux line has: console=ttyS0,9600n8 and before that there's serial --unit=0 --speed=9600, terminal_input serial |
| 21:08.08 | muenchhausen | and output serial |
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| 21:08.27 | muenchhausen | the later is the grub stuff |
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| 21:09.46 | Bushmills | "garbage at most" -> wrong baudrate, usually |
| 21:10.29 | Bushmills | try 115200 |
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| 21:10.57 | marsfligth | what kind of archive manager should give me the possibility to synchronize like 'rsync --delete'? |
| 21:10.59 | acemi | some serial device don't send alphanumeric characters |
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| 21:11.19 | Bushmills | pardon? |
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| 21:15.22 | acemi | muenchhausen: i mean it can send binary data and it seems like a garbage |
| 21:16.33 | muenchhausen | acemi: I got output :) |
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| 21:16.53 | muenchhausen | "Press <Space Bar> to update BIOS" wtf? |
| 21:17.19 | muenchhausen | I wonder what happened there.. |
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| 21:35.59 | andr_ | ahh yeahhh debian is installed :D thanks a lot for the great support |
| 21:36.19 | andr_ | i go to bed good night |
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| 21:51.57 | mairo | hmm... |
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| 22:01.49 | kW_ | Is anyone here who knows how to set /etc/apt/preferences properly? |
| 22:01.51 | kingsley | What do you think of trying to identify malicious code with the applications named "rkhunter" and "chkrootkit"? |
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| 22:02.20 | abrotman | as opposed to ? |
| 22:02.24 | abrotman | kW_: to do what? |
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| 22:03.47 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 22:03.54 | petemc | kingsley: i wouldnt trust them or nearly anything else if my box had been compromised and someone had root access |
| 22:04.14 | hochron | how do I get gnome-volume-control?, I have als and gnome-audio installed |
| 22:04.18 | hochron | alsa |
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| 22:04.41 | kingsley | petemc: Do you happen to know how to tell if someone had root access? |
| 22:04.49 | valdyn | !tell hochron -about search |
| 22:04.58 | valdyn | kingsley: theres no way in general |
| 22:04.59 | lenswipe | i set my server's hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname but when i type hostname -f i get "Unknown host" |
| 22:05.06 | lenswipe | can anyone help as to why the fqdn is failing? |
| 22:05.15 | lenswipe | i do own the DNS records for the domain name im trying to use |
| 22:05.19 | lenswipe | so theres no reason for it to fail |
| 22:05.26 | hochron | !search |
| 22:05.40 | hochron | hmmmm |
| 22:05.42 | lenswipe | ? |
| 22:06.01 | hochron | valdyn, that command did not work |
| 22:06.03 | petemc | kingsley: if you have an idea of which exploit they used to gain access and that exploit allowed root access you can be fairly sure |
| 22:06.33 | valdyn | hochron: ok: http://packages.debian.org/ lets you search for files |
| 22:06.35 | hochron | I have apt-cache searched for gnome-volume-control |
| 22:07.08 | lenswipe | i set my server's hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname but when i type hostname -f i get "Unknown host" |
| 22:07.11 | kingsley | petemc: Do you happen to know how to tell which exploit they used to gain access? |
| 22:07.14 | lenswipe | can someone help |
| 22:07.23 | lenswipe | Note: "Just fucking google it" is /not/ helpful |
| 22:07.48 | valdyn | kingsley: the point of being root is that you can clear any and all tracks |
| 22:08.00 | petemc | kingsley: from what you said previously, it seemed to me it was via exim |
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| 22:08.19 | valdyn | kingsley: fortunately many rootkits are not sophisticated enough to do that - so you see them like you see any root login |
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| 22:10.42 | muenchhausen | atm. it seems I get serial output from the BIOS but not from grub or linux |
| 22:10.59 | valdyn | lenswipe: let us see your /etc/hosts entry |
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| 22:11.07 | lenswipe | valdyn, i fixed it |
| 22:11.09 | lenswipe | i rebooted and it fixed it |
| 22:11.11 | hochron | ty valdyn |
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| 22:16.43 | dym | Hey everyone - I'm looking for an open source alternative to dropbox with similar functionalities. Can someone recommend something? |
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| 22:20.53 | jaggz | when I do lsof | grep dnscache .. I can't see an open port for djbdns (dbndns) listening... |
| 22:20.59 | jaggz | or just lsof | grep dnsc |
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| 22:25.57 | jair | i am running this command iwlist wlan0 scanning and I am getting this: http://paste.debian.net/121914 |
| 22:27.11 | jaggz | jair, interesting |
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| 22:30.26 | jair | I may be having this issue because I have the firmware-iwlwifi and wpa_supplicant? |
| 22:31.00 | jair | jaggz: are you familiar with wifi configuration in debian squeeze? |
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| 22:33.42 | Black_Prince | Jair, http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
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| 22:36.39 | poet | is there a package for the bsd toolchain? i.e. bsdmake, etc |
| 22:37.18 | Black_Prince | it is GNU/kFreeBSD, not FreeBSD |
| 22:37.30 | Black_Prince | gnu toolchain + bsd kernel |
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| 22:38.16 | abrotman | that didn't really answer his question ? |
| 22:38.17 | poet | i have normal debian installed, just trying to build some software that needs bsd toolchain |
| 22:39.04 | abrotman | judd: info freebsd-buildutils --release squeeze |
| 22:39.06 | judd | Package freebsd-buildutils (devel, extra) in squeeze/i386: Utilities for building FreeBSD sources. Version: 8.1-1; Size: 405.9k; Installed: 1504k |
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| 22:39.54 | poet | abrotman: excellent! thanks |
| 22:40.09 | Black_Prince | boah |
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| 22:42.09 | Kromgol | Hello. Is it possible to install GRUB on another HDD? I'm trying to install atm and it gets stuck on installing GRUB due to me having installed the root file system on sdc and left the other partitions unpartitioned. |
| 22:42.16 | Kromgol | i mean harddrives, not partitions |
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| 22:50.29 | abrotman | Kromgol: you can, it asks you to specify |
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| 22:51.43 | jair | Black_Prince: are you sending me this because you think it may have an answer or it is because you have seen the same issue before? |
| 22:52.14 | Kromgol | Unfortunately it didn't abrotman. |
| 22:52.25 | abrotman | in which mode? |
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| 22:52.46 | xindz | I have some problems with my debian squezze machine. My ethernet just dies and im getting this error: kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out. Something wrong with the network driver i think? What should i do ? |
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| 22:56.29 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 22:56.32 | ksx4system | how do I download kernel-image manually? |
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| 22:56.43 | daveo | nitey night ksx4system |
| 22:56.49 | daveo | oops |
| 22:57.26 | ksx4system | i need to downgrade (lenny version) or upgrade (wheezy version) the kernel. (yes, i know what i'm doing) |
| 22:57.42 | dym | Hey, how do I disable the overwrite warning in debian? |
| 22:57.53 | dym | So i dont have to confirm, or use -f all the time? |
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| 22:59.33 | Kromgol | abrotman: Expert install, due to me needing SSH |
| 23:00.08 | abrotman | should still ask you, more so then |
| 23:00.41 | Kromgol | abrotman: At what step? When trying to install GRUB? It just prompted me that it failed. |
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| 23:00.50 | Kromgol | But meh, i will just throw it on my sda |
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| 23:01.01 | themill | ksx4system: there are kernel packages in backports, that's a much better options; /msg dselect bdo |
| 23:01.12 | abrotman | themill: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:01.24 | themill | mmmm ENOBOTS :( |
| 23:01.51 | abrotman | ravenbird: hi |
| 23:01.52 | ravenbird | hey, abrotman |
| 23:01.54 | abrotman | BOT! |
| 23:01.58 | abrotman | apt: hello |
| 23:01.58 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 23:02.00 | abrotman | BOT! |
| 23:02.03 | themill | ravenbird: spank abrotman |
| 23:02.05 | ravenbird | themill: i haven't a clue |
| 23:02.07 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:02.08 | themill | yeah well |
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| 23:02.44 | abrotman | dselect: wb |
| 23:02.44 | dselect | thanks, abrotman. It's good to be back. |
| 23:02.46 | themill | dselect: hello |
| 23:02.47 | dselect | que tal, themill |
| 23:02.49 | ksx4system | themill: but because of some reasons i MUST use lenny's kernel. |
| 23:03.09 | themill | ksx4system: you just said that you could use the wheezy kernel... |
| 23:03.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | xen like system detected *g* |
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| 23:06.52 | dym | Is there an "--assume-yes for "cp"" ? |
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| 23:08.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | force? |
| 23:08.53 | dym | well -f doesnt seem to work |
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| 23:09.29 | dym | cp -Rf /path/one /path/two <--- still asks |
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| 23:10.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | asks what? |
| 23:10.33 | dym | if i want to overwrite the exisiting files |
| 23:10.35 | dym | one by one |
| 23:10.37 | dym | :/ |
| 23:11.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | :| |
| 23:11.13 | dym | what2do? |
| 23:11.25 | tharkun | dym rm before cp :-) |
| 23:11.39 | dym | i might actually start crying, if i have to press y - Enter - y - Enter for a couple of hundret times. |
| 23:11.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | use rsync, or work out why -f isn't working (since f is meant to handle that) |
| 23:11.46 | dym | :D |
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| 23:12.21 | tharkun | dym: what is your full cp command? |
| 23:12.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | dym: if all else fails pipe yes into it (and don't tell anyone i suggested that, or they'll have me shot) |
| 23:12.34 | themill | not setting "-i" for cp would be a good plan |
| 23:13.13 | surrender_ | dym: /bin/cp |
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| 23:13.25 | dym | cp -Rfv /path/one/* /etc/ |
| 23:13.28 | dym | @ tharkun |
| 23:13.52 | dym | is verbose causing it? |
| 23:13.52 | stew | dym: what does "alias cp" return? |
| 23:14.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | um, mass cping into /etc/? |
| 23:14.06 | dym | hah! |
| 23:14.10 | dym | it has -i aliased |
| 23:14.16 | dym | -i is interactive, right? |
| 23:14.19 | tharkun | yes |
| 23:14.21 | xindz | I have some problems with my debian squezze machine. My ethernet just dies and im getting this error: kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out. Something wrong with the network driver i think? What should i do ? |
| 23:14.23 | dym | ok thx |
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| 23:18.13 | jeremy-77 | im on debian page trying to download a cd image but I dont see the one for gnome. is it listed as something ells? |
| 23:18.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | cd one |
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| 23:20.05 | abrotman | jeremy-77: CD or DVD? |
| 23:20.10 | jeremy-77 | cd |
| 23:20.16 | edju | May be the wrong place to ask, but .... Kmail suddenly is crashing, something about mysql log containing errors, and akonadi and nepomuk not registered at dbus. I've tried to find a solution, but what I've read either didn't work or was contradictory. Any one with a good pointer? |
| 23:20.19 | jeremy-77 | amd64 |
| 23:20.53 | jeremy-77 | I want debian amd64 with gnome desktop |
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| 23:21.14 | abrotman | jeremy-77: get CD1 |
| 23:21.15 | ZykoticK9 | jeremy-77, debian cd1 or dvd1 both use gnome (by default) |
| 23:21.35 | jeremy-77 | cool cause that is the one I picked lol |
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| 23:22.33 | jeremy-77 | can I put it on a usb 2 gig and install it ? |
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| 23:24.06 | ZykoticK9 | jeremy-77, yes, and squeeze is a hybrid-ISO/IMG so you can just cat or dd it to the root of the USB drive |
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| 23:25.18 | bronaugh | ok, got an ugly question. using nslcd as an LDAP proxy. how can one con other applications into using its socket? |
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| 23:25.29 | bronaugh | other than pam_ldapd |
| 23:25.42 | jeremy-77 | cool looks like ubuntu startup disk creator is setting it up on my usb for me |
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| 23:28.29 | tippenein | my startup is stalling on "Starting NFS common utilities: statd" any ideas? |
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| 23:31.39 | tharkun | Gentlemen how can i save a file and then exit using nano? |
| 23:31.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | read the instructions at the bottom of the screen? |
| 23:31.54 | derester | CTRL + O |
| 23:32.05 | derester | and CTRL + X |
| 23:32.06 | derester | :) |
| 23:32.24 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: do you have a "lo" network interface? does it have an address? |
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| 23:32.31 | thewanderer1 | (also, is it up?) |
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| 23:33.01 | tippenein | i have the computer plugged in via ethernet port and yes the network is up |
| 23:33.14 | abrotman | isn't ctrl-w write? and ctrl-o open ? |
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| 23:33.22 | tharkun | Gentlemen how on earth do i get out of nano, ctr-anykey sends me to a loop around earthy |
| 23:33.25 | abrotman | doesn't normally use nano |
| 23:33.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | ^x |
| 23:33.36 | thewanderer1 | tharkun: ctrl+x |
| 23:33.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | same as emacs (and is written on your screen) |
| 23:33.46 | lapsusbrutus | abrotman: x should work |
| 23:34.02 | stew | not the same as emacs |
| 23:34.07 | abrotman | lapsusbrutus: to write? |
| 23:34.10 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: how did you install? manually or using the installer? |
| 23:34.10 | jeremy-77 | i know ubuntu comes out with unstable releases every few months.....unstable for me mostly but how often dose debian come out with new releases ? |
| 23:34.16 | tharkun | ctr-x sends me to another idiotic menu that the only keycombination that works is ctr C which puts me back to square one. |
| 23:34.25 | bronaugh | tharkun: in the bottom two lines of your screen, there's a bunch of crap like ^X To Exit |
| 23:34.36 | lapsusbrutus | abrotman: ctrl x and press y :) |
| 23:34.38 | bronaugh | tharkun: ^ means control. hold down control, press x |
| 23:34.45 | lapsusbrutus | :p |
| 23:35.04 | tippenein | thewanderer1: i had to do the network part manually, but I did it from the cd |
| 23:35.19 | lapsusbrutus | abrotman: emacs or vim? |
| 23:35.43 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: ok, paste your /etc/network/interfaces and the output of `ip link sh` somewhere |
| 23:36.25 | lapsusbrutus | abrotman: like usually I mean |
| 23:36.28 | stew | jeremy-77: debian makes new stable releases every 2 years or so, you can see "/msg dselect release history" for a timeline |
| 23:36.42 | abrotman | lapsusbrutus: nano .. i wasn't the asker |
| 23:36.46 | stew | jeremy-77: debian doesn't make new unstable releases, we always have one |
| 23:36.58 | tharkun | bronaugh: thx the tty was missrendered an d the whole thing was a mess |
| 23:37.04 | jeremy-77 | stew, lol |
| 23:37.15 | lapsusbrutus | abrotman: ohh :) |
| 23:37.17 | derester | why u use nano when u don't know to close it? |
| 23:37.25 | lapsusbrutus | lol |
| 23:37.39 | stew | (I'm not sure what might have been funny about that) |
| 23:37.45 | thewanderer1 | tharkun: yeah, maybe "ed" is a better choice... or vim :P |
| 23:38.11 | jair | can squeeze still configure wifi adapters to WEP? I don't think so |
| 23:39.18 | jeremy-77 | stew, I am just ready for something different and something that works. been with ubuntu since 7.10 and only 2 of there releases actually worked for me half way stable. 8.04 and 10.04. everyone tells me I should try debian so here I am |
| 23:39.19 | stew | jeremy-77: i think you perhaps misunderstood my comment about unstable. i'm saying that we always have the "unstable" release, it is never released, we never create a new one. we create new "stable" and "testing" releases, but not new "unstable" releases |
| 23:39.47 | tharkun | thewanderer1: I am puzzled on why was vi removed from alternatives as the default editor |
| 23:40.07 | abrotman | tharkun: shouldn't have been |
| 23:40.07 | jeremy-77 | stew, I understood but the way you put it was funny |
| 23:40.27 | derester | i 10.04 but ubuntu is not for me |
| 23:40.29 | tippenein | thewanderer1: http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=3Y9zWM5C |
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| 23:40.41 | Leinn_Cat | Is there a way to install debian with no external media device? |
| 23:40.45 | tharkun | abrotman: I am no expert but why fix something that wasn't broken |
| 23:40.56 | derester | pendrive? |
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| 23:41.19 | Leinn_Cat | derchris, thats external media |
| 23:41.22 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: ok, somehow your lo interface has not been brought up. call `ifup lo` and then attempt to start nfs-common again. |
| 23:41.26 | Leinn_Cat | derester* |
| 23:41.30 | derester | aw, sorry |
| 23:41.32 | Leinn_Cat | I have internet |
| 23:41.35 | derester | my english is soo bad ;d |
| 23:41.53 | themill | tharkun: debian ships "vim" not "vi" |
| 23:41.56 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: oh, I see the error now. double "auto eth0", not even a single "auto lo" |
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| 23:42.02 | Tau | hi |
| 23:42.14 | Tau | i'm playing counter strike i wanna know a way to minimize the game. |
| 23:42.14 | abrotman | tharkun: huh ? |
| 23:42.17 | tippenein | thewanderer1: so? ' if up lo ' |
| 23:42.17 | tharkun | themill: vi and vim is like sh and bash |
| 23:42.22 | Tau | so i can look at the ircclient and talk to ppl. |
| 23:42.34 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: fix your interfaces file first |
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| 23:43.12 | themill | tharkun: there are numerous programs in debian that can pretend to be "vi", none of them are. "vim" is an alternative for editor as is "nvi" and whatever other things are out there. None of them are still vi which is why "vi" is not in alternatives |
| 23:43.20 | derester | Tau u re using wine? |
| 23:43.32 | tippenein | am i altering under loopback network interface |
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| 23:43.35 | tippenein | ? |
| 23:44.02 | tharkun | themill: ok, your knowledge of debian packages is far greater than mine. s/vi/vim/g |
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| 23:44.39 | cocon | hi, my bluetooth keyboard remains invisible from 'hcitool scan', whereas mouse and phone show up (at least sometimes)... this is on an iMac. any ideas? |
| 23:45.42 | tippenein | thewanderer1: i changed address, network, gateway and dns-nameservers to the same ip |
| 23:46.11 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: that's not the current problem... look at the line below # The loopback network interfac |
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| 23:46.42 | tippenein | that shouldn't be auto eth0? |
| 23:46.53 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: yup, it should say "auto lo" |
| 23:47.00 | thewanderer1 | you already have one auto eth0 |
| 23:48.12 | tippenein | can i restart the network adapter or do i have to restart the system? |
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| 23:48.45 | thewanderer1 | use ifdown and then ifup |
| 23:49.05 | tippenein | ifdown doesn't work |
| 23:49.47 | tharkun | themill: what was the default of editor back in sarge? IIRC it was indeed vi ? |
| 23:50.10 | lapsusbrutus | tippenein: invoke-rc.d networking stop and start might work |
| 23:50.28 | jeremy-77 | how well dose debian get along with ati ? I have a radeon hd 2600xt and like to play wow |
| 23:50.30 | bronaugh | update-alternatives --list editor |
| 23:50.33 | bronaugh | or whatever. |
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| 23:51.07 | tharkun | bronaugh: My last sarge machine is long dead |
| 23:51.16 | lapsusbrutus | jeremy-77: HD 4850 works very well |
| 23:51.26 | themill | tharkun: vim (or vim.tiny or similar), yes. Whether that's a good choice or not I can't say. I always change it to vim on my machines but I know how to drive it. Given the number of people we're seeing in here who don't know how to use "q" to quit out of apt-listchanges (now that it's installed by default), I'm fairly sure vim is a bad default. |
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| 23:51.38 | jair | can I configure the WPE network using wpa_supplicant? |
| 23:51.57 | jeremy-77 | lapsusbrutus, that s much better card than mine....trade? |
| 23:52.11 | bronaugh | themill: elvis-tiny is considerably more annoying to use than vim :) |
| 23:52.17 | lapsusbrutus | jeremy-77: enable non-free (sudo perl -pi -e 's/main$/main contrib non-free/' /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 23:53.16 | themill | offers lapsusbrutus sed -i |
| 23:53.17 | tharkun | themill: never though of vim that way. It is just second nature. Maybe too long using it and had to learn it the hard way :-) |
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| 23:53.27 | jeremy-77 | lapsusbrutus, getting ready to install on my game box so I will have to try that in a few |
| 23:53.28 | themill | quite ;) |
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| 23:53.38 | daemonkeeper | offers themill the better "sed", i.e. perl. |
| 23:53.42 | jaggz | root 19998 0.0 0.0 3656 392 ? S Jul01 1:14 supervise dnscache |
| 23:53.42 | jaggz | root 9386 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z 16:39 0:00 \_ [dnscache] <defunct> |
| 23:53.44 | themill | dselect: fix debhelper |
| 23:53.44 | dselect | takes debhelper to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 23:53.53 | jaggz | defunct? |
| 23:54.13 | themill | %defunct |
| 23:54.13 | dselect | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
| 23:54.28 | tippenein | thewanderer1: still nothing |
| 23:54.58 | jaggz | yeah I know.. just not sure why supervise didn't catch it, rerun it, and why dnscache isn't properly listening on my a.b.c.d:53 |
| 23:55.01 | tharkun | jaggz: just be aware that the number of zombies does not exceed the number of available process on your machine. |
| 23:55.25 | themill | BRAAAAINS! |
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| 23:55.26 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: what is the actual problem now? |
| 23:56.00 | lapsusbrutus | themill how would you do that with sed? hmm interesting |
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| 23:56.08 | jaggz | do any of you use djbdns (or dbndns)? |
| 23:56.12 | tippenein | no network connectivity |
| 23:56.25 | tippenein | i did a restart and added auto lo |
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| 23:56.47 | tharkun | jaggz: bind here with views pragmas to show different versions of the same zone to different people |
| 23:56.50 | themill | lapsusbrutus: «sed -i 's/main/main contrib non-free' /etc/apt/sources.list» (add the $ if you want...) Pretty much the same, just less syntactic overhead |
| 23:57.06 | Lenin_Cat | How do I boot the installation system directly from the hard disk? |
| 23:57.10 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: so... run "ifup eth0" and you should have a working Ethernet connection |
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| 23:57.21 | jaggz | chroot jail for bind? |
| 23:57.35 | jair | where in debian 6.0.2 is the file wpa_supplicant.conf? |
| 23:57.53 | lapsusbrutus | themill: thanks!! that was awesome! |
| 23:57.58 | jair | or I do put the wpa parameters in the file: "/etc/network/interfaces"? |
| 23:58.23 | tippenein | thewanderer1: yes, it says eth0 already configured |
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| 23:58.45 | themill | lapsusbrutus: less problematic with getting the order for -pi -e wrong too |
| 23:58.58 | thewanderer1 | tippenein: it means the interface has been brought up and network connectivity should be working... if not, fix your settings in interfaces, and do another ifdown/ifup cycle |
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| 23:59.15 | tippenein | ok, thank |
| 23:59.24 | jaggz | Lwnin, rhR'A INRWEWARINF.. |
| 23:59.27 | jaggz | uh.. |
| 23:59.47 | jaggz | Lenin, that's interesting.. |
