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| 00:10.52 | barf | http://pastie.org/private/qr2i1wjwpuglvbvygywkw |
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| 00:11.51 | barf | The size of the screen is 720p |
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| 00:12.31 | barf | 1366 x 768 |
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| 00:17.35 | kaluva | barf: That's very confusing. For one thing, DDC shouldn't fail, and vrefresh range 59.00 to 61.00 with vrefresh 71.00 just plain doesn't make sense |
| 00:17.42 | kaluva | barf: Is that a laptop? |
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| 00:19.01 | barf | Itâs a monitor Samsung SyncMaster 400PXn, motherboard Siemens Futro S400 AMD Geode NX 1500 |
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| 00:20.21 | barf | The monitorâs native resolution is 1366x768 or also refered to as 720p |
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| 00:21.45 | kaluva | barf: Try writing a xorg.conf with just a monitor section |
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| 00:23.23 | barf | Like what? |
| 00:23.23 | barf | 1360 x 768 |
| 00:24.19 | kaluva | barf: VertRefresh of 60 would be the most important |
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| 00:25.08 | barf | But what is the name of the conf file? |
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| 00:25.46 | barf | Xwrapper? |
| 00:25.55 | kaluva | barf: xorg.conf (Duh) |
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| 00:26.56 | barf | I found only 2 on my system: /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/examples/xorg.conf |
| 00:26.56 | barf | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.08 | kaluva | barf: man xorg.conf |
| 00:27.09 | barf | I usually find conf files in /etc/ folder |
| 00:27.29 | kaluva | barf: You don't have one, you write one yourself |
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| 00:28.02 | D-Strife89 | *just* completed an installation of 6.0.2.1 via a Netinstall CD and has a handful of problems. |
| 00:28.16 | barf | So /etc/xorg.conf |
| 00:28.34 | kaluva | D-Strife89: Did the cup holder break? ;-) |
| 00:28.36 | D-Strife89 | Firstly, GRUB does not list Windows XP, even though the installer indicated that the dry run detected XP. |
| 00:29.05 | kaluva | barf: No, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, like it says in the manpage |
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| 00:29.49 | D-Strife89 | Secondly, the network manager applet reports that "wireless is not managed", even though the installer reportedly installed the non-free driver and *used* wireless for most of the installation. (The hardware switch is on, as confirmed in the BIOS.) |
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| 00:30.54 | barf | Like this: http://pastie.org/private/75hpyzjwzmenmieybecgiw |
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| 00:31.05 | D-Strife89 | Could I get assistance with the issues. |
| 00:31.06 | D-Strife89 | ? |
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| 00:33.03 | abrotman | did yo uinstall os-prober? |
| 00:33.21 | abrotman | D-Strife89: make sure the wifi is actually working .. check in dmesg |
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| 00:36.06 | kaluva | barf: Yes, like that |
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| 00:37.16 | D-Strife89 | abrotman: Hard to say. Pruning it for eth1 returns 3 rather unhelpful lines. |
| 00:37.35 | abrotman | to you perhaps ... |
| 00:37.48 | D-Strife89 | (And yes, I'm pretty sure the installer reported the Wi-Fi radio as eth1) |
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| 00:38.32 | D-Strife89 | abrotman: eth1: no IPv6 routers present | going into suspend ... | coming out of suspend ... |
| 00:38.51 | abrotman | and eth1 is your wireless? |
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| 00:39.05 | D-Strife89 | Pretty sure |
| 00:39.09 | abrotman | what's in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 00:39.58 | D-Strife89 | #The primary network interface |
| 00:40.03 | D-Strife89 | allow-hotplug eth1 |
| 00:40.11 | D-Strife89 | iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 00:40.33 | D-Strife89 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.41 | D-Strife89 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.10 | D-Strife89 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.35 | D-Strife89 | End of file |
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| 00:51.18 | kaluva | D-Strife89: I *think* network-manager might refuse to control something that is being controlled by ifup / ifdown already |
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| 00:51.55 | D-Strife89 | kaluva: Know of any way to check that? |
| 00:52.22 | kaluva | D-Strife89: You might remove / comment the lines, log out and back in, see what happens |
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| 00:54.04 | max_sharpe | doenst network manager sit on top of ifup/ifdown ? |
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| 00:54.31 | D-Strife89 | kaluva: Nope, that didn't work. |
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| 00:55.30 | kaluva | I don't know, I don't use it |
| 00:55.40 | kaluva | D-Strife89: You have tried googling already? |
| 00:55.59 | D-Strife89 | Some. |
| 00:56.58 | D-Strife89 | Aha |
| 00:57.05 | D-Strife89 | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=60887 |
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| 00:57.21 | D-Strife89 | Sure enough, managed=false right now. |
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| 00:58.04 | D-Strife89 | (In /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf) |
| 00:58.07 | kaluva | K |
| 00:58.08 | kaluva | Bye |
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| 00:59.53 | abrotman | D-Strife89: remove the eth1 stanza from your interfaces file |
| 01:00.54 | D-Strife89 | Meaning the first, second, or both lines? |
| 01:01.51 | abrotman | 'stanza' |
| 01:02.12 | D-Strife89 | ... Ah. |
| 01:02.32 | gentz | I was just messing with my wireless card drivers, and now when i boot normal debian it hangs on starting hald |
| 01:02.50 | gentz | how can i find out what my problem is? |
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| 01:03.20 | abrotman | D-Strife89: or comment it out .. |
| 01:03.26 | D-Strife89 | After a full reboot, all's good on the wireless. |
| 01:03.35 | D-Strife89 | abrotman: I commented out the lines |
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| 01:03.51 | D-Strife89 | Now all that's left is the GRUB problem. |
| 01:03.55 | Odaym | abrotman! you're everywhere :) |
| 01:04.05 | abrotman | i am ? |
| 01:04.15 | abrotman | D-Strife89: don't you think you should test the wifi 'fix' ? |
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| 01:04.32 | Odaym | hmmm.. maybe I've just been running into you here a lot and not remembering, but your name is always on the main channel |
| 01:04.36 | abrotman | wonders where else he saw Odaym today ... |
| 01:04.49 | Odaym | glad to see so much people are benefiting from the wealth of information you have |
| 01:04.49 | D-Strife89 | abrotman: I have, and it works. :) |
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| 01:05.07 | edbian | What package should I install to get the command pdflatex ? |
| 01:05.28 | abrotman | D-Strife89: did oyu install os-prober like i suggested 30 minutes ago ? |
| 01:05.32 | abrotman | edbian: apt-file |
| 01:05.52 | D-Strife89 | abrotman: Ah, I didn't realize that was aimed at me |
| 01:05.54 | karlpinc_ | edbian: He means, install it and use it. (Or, I think, packages.debian.org. I forget.) |
| 01:06.03 | edbian | karlpinc_: yes :) |
| 01:06.08 | edbian | abrotman: thanks :P |
| 01:06.24 | edbian | apt-file functionality should be in apt-get or aptitude at least |
| 01:06.27 | D-Strife89 | abrotman: That said, it's already installed. |
| 01:06.52 | abrotman | D-Strife89: run update-grub |
| 01:07.06 | karlpinc_ | edbian: Maybe not. It's sort of a lot of data that everyone might not need. (aptitude should have dpkg -S functionality though.) |
| 01:07.28 | D-Strife89 | Okay, it reports "Found Windows XP Professional." |
| 01:07.32 | D-Strife89 | Rebooting to confirm |
| 01:07.53 | karlpinc_ | edbian: Feel free to file a wishlist bug report. (Or search the bts for one already filed.) |
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| 01:08.12 | edbian | thanks |
| 01:08.29 | D-Strife89 | Normally I don't run Windows, period, but thus far it has been the only OS to perform halfway-decently on my laptop. |
| 01:08.37 | abrotman | edbian: those Contents files are large .. thta'd be a lot of wasted bandwidth every time you run apt-get update |
| 01:08.48 | D-Strife89 | Anyway, GRUB's listing it now. :) |
| 01:08.49 | abrotman | D-Strife89: and then you installed Debian ? |
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| 01:08.58 | D-Strife89 | Thanks, abrotman. |
| 01:08.59 | edbian | abrotman: I see |
| 01:09.02 | D-Strife89 | abrotman: Yep. |
| 01:09.21 | D-Strife89 | I've already been using Debian on my desktop for a while (6 months, in fact.) |
| 01:09.35 | abrotman | edbian: Contents-i386.gz 25-Jun-2011 11:06 17450602 |
| 01:09.48 | abrotman | i guess they could do pdiff with those too ... |
| 01:09.50 | D-Strife89 | (Indeed, this is said desktop.) |
| 01:10.14 | karlpinc_ | D-Strife89: If you haven't already you should check out the <introduction> factoid and at least read the other factoids it references too. |
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| 01:10.58 | D-Strife89 | karlpinc_: Where might this be? |
| 01:11.12 | karlpinc_ | D-Strife89: You type "/msg dpkg introduction" into your irc client. |
| 01:11.18 | Odaym | what is the conf file for GRUB called in Squeeze? |
| 01:11.28 | Odaym | because I `locate`d till i was choked, nothing came up |
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| 01:11.44 | edbian | installing latex is huge .... >:| |
| 01:11.56 | abrotman | Odaym: in /etc/ .. uhm, /etc/grub/ or /etc/default/ IIRC |
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| 01:13.23 | karlpinc_ | Odaym: /etc/grub.d/* |
| 01:13.31 | Odaym | yes i'm there already..but |
| 01:14.07 | Odaym | yea |
| 01:14.11 | karlpinc_ | Odaym: You probably want just /etc/default/grub and run update-grub afterwards. |
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| 01:14.51 | karlpinc_ | Odaym: I swear I saw something that describes how it all works, but I can't find it now. Maybe it was in the info pages in the grub-doc package? |
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| 01:15.02 | Odaym | yea there's the simple file I'm used to |
| 01:15.06 | Odaym | with the timeout and whatnot |
| 01:15.36 | TBotNik | All: Close but no banna. Got my dhcp3-server settings at least put the right IP and range on the eth0, but still it is not serving IPs to the network. Latest PB at: http://pastebin.com/YJKNRXVk I guess after all this I may be the expert on this LOL :) :) |
| 01:15.52 | Seth_Hikaru | How do I copy to overwrite files and do it without confirmation. I can't find it in the --help. |
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| 01:17.00 | Odaym | I don't have the update-grub binary it seems |
| 01:17.09 | Seth_Hikaru | cp -Rf |
| 01:17.10 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: What are you typing now? cp usually copies without requiring confirmation. |
| 01:17.16 | Seth_Hikaru | cp -R |
| 01:17.22 | Seth_Hikaru | * |
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| 01:17.34 | Seth_Hikaru | Ignore the * it was a correction mark. |
| 01:17.44 | TBotNik | All: Main thing I noticed that made the biggest change is all the eth0 setting had to be grouped together in the interfaces file. |
| 01:18.04 | Seth_Hikaru | It keeps asking for overwrite confirmation and I was sick of hitting y and then enter repeatedly because it would take me forever. |
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| 01:18.25 | Odaym | it's in `/usr/lib/grub-legacy/update-grub` though |
| 01:18.55 | Odaym | it'll just get updated upon reboot won't it? |
| 01:19.00 | Odaym | when that's due, that is |
| 01:19.13 | karlpinc_ | TBotNik: The logs (/var/log/daemon*) and 'tail -f' are your friend. |
| 01:19.28 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: Does "aliases" say you've an alias for cp? |
| 01:19.39 | Seth_Hikaru | Um. |
| 01:19.43 | Seth_Hikaru | What? |
| 01:19.47 | Odaym | well I have to go now, later, thanks |
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| 01:22.35 | Seth_Hikaru | karlpinc_: So, what do? |
| 01:22.46 | abrotman | odableh |
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| 01:25.19 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: What happens when you type "alias"? |
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| 01:25.48 | Seth_Hikaru | A bunch of stuff. |
| 01:26.16 | Seth_Hikaru | http://sethhikaru.com/alias.txt |
| 01:26.20 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: If "cp" is aliased then that's why it's asking for confirmation all the time. (If it aliases to "cp --interactive" for example.) |
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| 01:26.45 | Seth_Hikaru | So how do I fix? |
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| 01:26.58 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: Permanently or temporarily? |
| 01:27.06 | Seth_Hikaru | What would you reccomend? |
| 01:27.27 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: I make regular backups, so don't want confirmation. |
| 01:27.37 | Seth_Hikaru | I hate confirmation myself since I pay more attention to file operations on a linux box. |
| 01:27.42 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay permanently then. |
| 01:28.13 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: echo $SHELL says /bin/bash, right? |
| 01:28.37 | Seth_Hikaru | Yes. |
| 01:28.48 | Seth_Hikaru | I don't know why I had to do that. |
| 01:28.53 | Seth_Hikaru | I know I always use bash. |
| 01:29.14 | Seth_Hikaru | Anyway. |
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| 01:29.19 | Seth_Hikaru | Next? |
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| 01:29.33 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: It'll either be in .bashrc or .bash_aliases in your home directory. How did those settings get in there? It's not default. |
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| 01:29.42 | Seth_Hikaru | No idea. |
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| 01:30.02 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: You will need to start a new terminal to make the changes take effect. (or just type "bash" and start a new shell.) |
| 01:30.04 | Seth_Hikaru | karlpinc_: Can you pm me how to fix it? I have to leave and won't be near a wifi connection so. |
| 01:30.09 | Jayro | Hello, I am trying to build kismet and getting this error "Failed to find libcurses or libncurses.". However I cannot find those packages in the repos. Can someone help |
| 01:30.11 | Jayro | ? |
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| 01:30.31 | abrotman | Jayro: it wants the -dev packages |
| 01:30.32 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: Those files will have an "alias" command in them. Comment it out. |
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| 01:30.36 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: Or delete it. |
| 01:30.43 | Seth_Hikaru | okay |
| 01:30.45 | Seth_Hikaru | Thanks. |
| 01:30.55 | Jayro | abrotman, any idea what they are called? |
| 01:31.13 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: Delete the alias command, not the file. |
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| 01:32.10 | karlpinc_ | Seth_Hikaru: Or /etc/bash_profile. But that would be ugly. |
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| 01:34.39 | Jayro | abrotman, ihave installed libncursesw5-dev and libncursesw5 but still nothing. they are the cloetpackages i can find |
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| 01:35.31 | magyar | hi, i have an mkv file that plays on windows but no squeeze |
| 01:35.51 | abrotman | Jayro: maybe you sohuld pastebin the actual errors |
| 01:36.00 | Jayro | abrotman, okay. |
| 01:36.27 | beardy | magyar: How do you try to play it? |
| 01:36.47 | Jayro | abrotman, http://pastie.org/2271554 |
| 01:37.03 | magyar | beardy: using dragon player or kaffeine |
| 01:37.23 | beardy | magyar: Try VLC or mplayer instead. |
| 01:37.29 | abrotman | Jayro: i meant the full command and all output |
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| 01:37.59 | magyar | beardy: i can play other mkv files with dragon player |
| 01:38.02 | Jayro | abrotman, its just ./configure and its finding all libraries but the ones in that error |
| 01:38.17 | abrotman | right, can we see all of that? |
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| 01:38.38 | Jayro | abrotman, sure 1 sec |
| 01:38.49 | beardy | magyar: So? This one uses some other crap format then? MKV is only the container. |
| 01:39.43 | Jayro | abrotman, http://pastie.org/2271565 |
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| 01:40.20 | abrotman | Jayro: dpkg -l *curses* |
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| 01:41.24 | Jayro | abrotman, http://pastie.org/2271570 |
| 01:41.47 | abrotman | you didn't install libncurses5-dev |
| 01:41.56 | abrotman | judd: versions ibncurses5 |
| 01:41.58 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ibncurses5' was found in i386. |
| 01:41.59 | abrotman | judd: versions libncurses5 |
| 01:42.00 | judd | Package libncurses5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.7+20081213-1; squeeze: 5.7+20100313-5; sid: 5.9-1; wheezy: 5.9-1 |
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| 01:44.51 | magyar | beardy: it does play with vlc, so does that mean that not all players are able to play formats for which there are codecs available on the system |
| 01:44.53 | magyar | ? |
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| 01:45.48 | demona | please, god, make the six foot purple toads under my bed go away |
| 01:45.50 | TBotNik | karlpinc_: Not seeing anything useful in the logs |
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| 01:47.07 | TBotNik | karlpinc_: put the last 20 of syslog at: http://pastebin.com/M5zUxbnf |
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| 01:47.19 | demona | Anyone use dovecot? I've solved this damn problem before but mislaid my bookmarks. Claiming mailbox doesn't exist when I try to login. mail.log shows successful login followed by immediate disconnect. mail_location properly set, INBOX exists, I can frigging well see it. |
| 01:48.06 | nsadmin | cuts the 42 purple toads in half... ohshit.. the bottom halves are sproiuting heads!! now you have 84 3foot purple toads! |
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| 01:50.43 | magyar | how can i make vlc my default video player? |
| 01:51.04 | abrotman | in what? |
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| 01:51.17 | magyar | kde (squeeze) |
| 01:51.27 | abrotman | you ask the worst questions sometimes .. and you've been asking for like five years .. one would think you'd have learned a better way to ask by now :) |
| 01:51.35 | TBotNik | karlpinc_: All my setting show at: http://pastebin.com/YJKNRXVk Between the 2 do you see anything you would want to change? |
| 01:51.56 | magyar | abrotman: thanks |
| 01:52.11 | abrotman | thanks? |
| 01:52.28 | magyar | abrotman: I can set default browser, filemanager etc, but not multimedia player |
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| 01:53.13 | nsadmin | so kde doesn't have the concept of a default video player? |
| 01:53.19 | magyar | abrotman: thanks for giving a credit when credit is due :) |
| 01:53.47 | magyar | nsadmin: i can change the file handler one by one |
| 01:53.53 | magyar | but that is no fu |
| 01:53.55 | magyar | fun |
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| 01:54.13 | TBotNik | karlpinc_: If the server starts working and serving IPS to the network I will see on my win box with "ipconfig /renew *" cmd, but right now no service so no IP renew happening. |
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| 01:55.27 | nsadmin | ok, so you're not actually referring to kde; that's too general and there are "file managers" that put icons representing files on your background screen |
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| 01:55.40 | nsadmin | it's the file manager you want to adjust |
| 01:56.06 | nsadmin | because it's the file manager that responds to file type associations |
| 01:56.10 | Iu | hi, I'm having some trouble getting my gigabit nic to run at gigabit speeds. the adapter is an atheros ar8121/ar8113/ar8114 gigabit adapter using the atl1e driver, but ethtool only reports 10 or 100 mbps modes |
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| 01:59.57 | magyar | nsadmin: yeah , that's another neat trick, I've tried associating files the same way as you described, just to find out that the file manager tells me to f-off and reverts the settings. |
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| 02:00.33 | nsadmin | magyar, what you're calling a neat trick is actually the direct approach to what you are asking for |
| 02:01.02 | magyar | and with case sensing the way to represent a mpeg file is what 3 to the power of three |
| 02:01.08 | nsadmin | and now, I'm going back to my initial inclination: |
| 02:01.16 | nsadmin | !smart questions |
| 02:01.16 | dpkg | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>. |
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| 02:02.32 | beardy | magyar: Codecs are player specific, so in a sense it means that yes. |
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| 02:02.38 | nsadmin | that's also not enough in this case... you also want to learn more about kde |
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| 02:03.10 | nsadmin | 27? |
| 02:03.37 | magyar | beardy: makes sense, thanks |
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| 02:04.13 | magyar | nsadmin: well, am exsaturating a bit |
| 02:04.30 | demona | enabling debug in dovecot: It may be because it's not finding the index and control files? But WTF, the whole reason I've always used dovecot is because it presents a goddamn plain jane mbox directory as an imap folder? And builds that shite if it needs to? |
| 02:05.20 | demona | (/rhetorical) |
| 02:05.35 | Seth_Hikaru | karlpinc_: Where would I find that file? |
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| 02:13.21 | nsadmin | magyar, it's ok to go slowly, the speed at which you explore something because you want to learn it depends on how quickly you need the results |
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| 02:14.44 | magyar | nsadmin: Plato? |
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| 02:16.22 | nsadmin | nsadmin. |
| 02:16.29 | magyar | -_- |
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| 02:18.31 | nsadmin | either you want to know right now, so you want to spend a few hours right now explorign the details and moving parts of kde... or you still want to know but you can relax about how often you explore the small details |
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| 02:19.49 | demona | 1) Oh right, mail_plugins=autocreate 2) why isn't that working any more on my other system which hasn't been upgraded and thus has no reason to break, 3) why isn't it freaking working on this new system... |
| 02:19.51 | demona | *headdesk |
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| 02:21.35 | demona | and of course, why isnt there a g-ddamn simple working out of the box dovecot setup on any distro after all this time |
| 02:21.46 | magyar | nsadmin: the thing about #debian, you always learn how to skin a cat a hundred or more ways, it could be an eye opening experience |
| 02:21.57 | demona | at least it autocreates certificates now, theres progress |
| 02:21.59 | magyar | it is for me |
| 02:22.05 | karlpinc_ | TBotNik: You'll want to grep the log for dhcp. For instance, line 4 of http://pastebin.com/M5zUxbnf looks suspicious. |
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| 02:22.59 | nsadmin | magyar, that's always a good thing... why not take that ability with you when you're not in #debian |
| 02:23.06 | magyar | abrotman never ceases to amaze me |
| 02:24.07 | magyar | nsadmin: that will never happen, you can't pry #debian out of my cold, dead hands |
| 02:24.57 | magyar | as long as there is 3G |
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| 02:29.40 | nsadmin | I'm not trying to take anything away... and, I'm telling you that #debian is not the only place/way you can apply these things |
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| 02:34.37 | magyar | Phew you scared me for a minute there..... nsadmin |
| 02:34.59 | magyar | in any case I get your point |
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| 04:27.42 | TBotNik | karlpinc_: Sorry had to step away for a while. So saw you comment and remove 2 pkgs dhcp-relay and dhcp-probe, don't think they are needed and they showed no dependencies to main dhcp3-server code when I removed them. |
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| 04:28.50 | TBotNik | karlpinc_: Unfortunately now every restart of networking causes terminal to hang so have to run reboot instead, so BRB after reboot. |
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| 04:32.55 | sab0tage | check your /etc/network/interfaces file, an interface is probably not configuring with the daemon. |
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| 04:53.23 | TBotNik | All: On my wifi to lan ICS bridge I was reading that one thing that causes problems is IPv6 and most seem to be disabling it to make the dhcp3-server and bridging work. Do you all agree with that? |
| 04:55.02 | karlpinc_ | TBotNik: Can't hurt if you're not using ipv6. (Gotta go.) |
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| 04:56.02 | TBotNik | K since already in synaptic will remove IPv6. |
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| 04:58.53 | TBotNik | All: If this fixes this I will be soooooooooooooooo happy!!! |
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| 05:05.04 | TBotNik | All: See there is no way to disable IPv6 from synaptic so had to follow HOWTO at: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-1004.html Hope this is all good, as from the descript will have to go down for reboot on this. |
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| 05:05.48 | TBotNik | I'll give ya'll a little time to comment, before I reboot. Thanks! |
| 05:08.43 | TBotNik | All: Eureka, I'm in and it is working and without the reboot. Ohhh Happppppyyy Dayyyy!!!! |
| 05:08.51 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.51 | dpkg | To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for this change to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
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| 05:10.10 | yar1k | hello |
| 05:10.26 | BataLoopPak | hi |
| 05:11.41 | TBotNik | All: Well not all works. Boohoo! The dhcp3-server is giving me IPs on the network, but DNS is not working or passing through so ping from the Win box is not getting through for "ping www.google.com" the basic ping test. What now? |
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| 05:11.51 | BataLoopPak | hi, i'm having a problem with networking, my eth0 isn't coming up, only after i booted and execute ifup eth0, i'm using debian squeeze |
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| 05:12.39 | yar1k | i need help, watching this Phoronix test report (iozone) and tell me: its normal for VPS? or its bad results? http://xackep.dyndns-remote.com/benchmark/iozonetest.txt |
| 05:12.49 | jokar | o/ all |
| 05:12.51 | jokar | hi |
| 05:12.54 | TBotNik | All: I assume I need something from the wlan0 nameservers, passed through to the eth0 port, so need to find that now. Help please almost there. |
| 05:13.04 | jokar | can i change my login screen with gdm3? |
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| 05:13.33 | yar1k | BataLoopPak: use wicd =) its beatiful network assistant =) |
| 05:13.40 | yagoo | anyone using bind9? rndc querylog && tail /var/log/messages doesn't show queries |
| 05:13.57 | jokar | GDM have a GUI utilitty for change it but gdm3 not have |
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| 05:14.21 | yar1k | jokar: search gdm3setup packet. |
| 05:14.45 | jokar | is it a package? |
| 05:14.54 | BataLoopPak | LOL i just the **** problem. |
| 05:14.59 | BataLoopPak | thanks anyway |
| 05:15.07 | BataLoopPak | just saw* |
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| 05:15.45 | TBotNik | BRB rebooting to see if I go all the way with reboot. |
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| 05:30.43 | TBotNik | All: Well reboot did not fix the nameserver issues. Taking a small break to update my forum posts and config posts on this. BRB |
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| 05:54.43 | philipballew | hey, when i installed squeeze i was offline and chose to configure my dchp later. now i plug in my laptop to cat5 and i cant connect. what do i do? |
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| 06:11.48 | streuner_ | philipballew: interfaces |
| 06:12.27 | philipballew | streuner_, so what am i gonna type in the terminal? or will i neet to open the network interfaces file? |
| 06:12.48 | streuner_ | philipballew: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 06:13.13 | philipballew | lets give it a go |
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| 06:13.36 | streuner_ | if you using GNOME, make sure network-manager is disabled |
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| 06:14.18 | streuner_ | (/etc/init.d/network-manager stop) |
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| 06:14.41 | philipballew | i have a cli system streuner_ |
| 06:14.53 | streuner_ | ok |
| 06:14.54 | philipballew | i cant connect at all |
| 06:15.50 | philipballew | so do i type "/msg dpkg interfaces" or install the package interfaces? |
| 06:16.10 | philipballew | because when i type /msg dpkg interfaces i get nothing |
| 06:16.19 | streuner_ | dpkg, +tell philipballew -about interfaces |
| 06:16.20 | dpkg | told philipballew about interfaces. |
| 06:16.40 | philipballew | well dkpg opens and shows its options |
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| 06:17.13 | Driver|krsK | man interfaces |
| 06:17.34 | philipballew | theres no just one comand. haha |
| 06:17.55 | Driver|krsK | if your provider use dhcp. type dhclient eth0 |
| 06:18.23 | philipballew | ifconfig only shows lo |
| 06:18.30 | asarch | How do you change/set the password for a PostgreSQL user database? |
| 06:18.43 | babilen | philipballew: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration + "man interfaces" (or use network-manager or wicd) |
| 06:18.51 | Driver|krsK | dhclient up eth0 if found valid dhcp server |
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| 06:19.10 | Driver|krsK | ifconfig -a |
| 06:19.12 | streuner_ | <philipballew> i have a cli system streuner_ |
| 06:19.19 | Driver|krsK | show all interfaces |
| 06:20.29 | philipballew | ifconfig only shows lo . so do I dhclient lo |
| 06:21.05 | streuner_ | How about to read what we told you |
| 06:21.14 | babilen | No, ok, lets start this from the beginning. Please run "lspci -nn|grep -i ethernet" and paste the result |
| 06:21.29 | Driver|krsK | and ifconfig -a |
| 06:21.41 | babilen | (to http://paste.debian.net) |
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| 06:22.35 | streuner_ | Driver|krsK: How about to let babilien do this, he seems so motivated ;-) |
| 06:22.37 | philipballew | alright :) |
| 06:23.01 | babilen | (you can help all you want) |
| 06:23.05 | Driver|krsK | okay :) |
| 06:23.07 | streuner_ | one cook is usually more than enough :-P |
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| 06:24.49 | alanhaggai | Hello. In my Debian Squeeze server, scp/rsync do not seem to copy over anything. Works fine with another server though (so not a client side problem). When using scp, it just creates an empty file and waits. /etc/bash.bashrc contains `[ -z "$PS1" ] && return` at the top as well. What might be the problem. SSH works fine. |
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| 06:25.06 | alanhaggai | No firewall either. |
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| 06:35.55 | TBotNik | All: Well have done several things, but nothing fixing the nameserver part yet. The best HOWTO on this so far has been the one at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing and wondering if I should be starting at and implementing the sections at/under "Gateway Set up". In particular the NAT and IPTables sections. What do you guys think? |
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| 06:36.43 | streuner_ | !ipmasq |
| 06:36.43 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ . The ipmasq package was removed from Debian post-Lenny to resolve bug #538384. |
| 06:37.00 | FunkyBob | tried to do an install on a HP DL380 G7 today... and parted just kept locking up... |
| 06:37.24 | Dewi | streuner_: dnsmasq and shorewall seem to work well together |
| 06:37.47 | Dewi | or just shorewall only if you don't care about dhcp or dns relaying |
| 06:38.11 | Dewi | that probably should have been to TBotNik: |
| 06:39.08 | streuner_ | FunkyBob: what kind of iso do you use? |
| 06:39.37 | FunkyBob | streuner_: well, from what little I can gather... the problem is related to booting from a USB stick |
| 06:39.52 | FunkyBob | originally tried the netinst... the I suggested trying the full first CD |
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| 06:41.12 | TBotNik | Dewi: What to look for or add in /etc/hosts?? |
| 06:41.39 | FunkyBob | in the end, we managed to partition, format and mount a root, and persuade the installer to keep going |
| 06:42.22 | Dewi | TBotNik: sorry I didn't catch the original question. You're trying to set up NAT, but are you wanting to use a DNS server or repeater? |
| 06:42.39 | Dewi | TBotNik: (as opposed to everyone using the upstream DNS) |
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| 06:43.40 | FunkyBob | streuner_: still... could have done without the pain... as those boxes take FOREVER to reboot |
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| 06:44.02 | Doranwen | I'm having some traffic spikes on my server, but I'm not really sure from what. I tried installing ntop on a friend's suggestion, but apt doesn't seem to have it. Is there a source I should enable, or a different tool I should try to see what is using all my bandwidth? |
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| 06:46.38 | TBotNik | Dewi: See my forum posts at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11086749#post11086749 Got all this working except passthrough of nameservers, but right now stuck somewhere in limbo, because ping is not working now, from cmd line, so rebooting to get back. Have to capture the networking restart errors also as getting several, from what I was trying to do to get the nameservers working. |
| 06:48.17 | TBotNik | BRB rebooting |
| 06:48.19 | Dewi | TBotNik: okay, take it one step at a time. Can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
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| 06:48.52 | TBotNik | Yup |
| 06:49.25 | TBotNik | Dewi: Know it is nameserver problem, straight addresses work. |
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| 06:49.48 | TBotNik | BRB rebooting |
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| 06:55.29 | Doranwen | how do I get a hold of ntop for etch? it seems to be offline from the location the site says |
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| 06:55.52 | Doranwen | perhaps because it's obsolete--and I'd love to go through the upgrade process, but I need to tackle the bandwidth usage problem right now and it'll do it in about 10 min |
| 06:56.01 | Doranwen | so I'm hoping to have it running by then so I can look and see what it is |
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| 06:59.19 | Doranwen | they'll hit my server in about 6 minutes--anyone know where I can get ntop for etch before then? |
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| 07:00.02 | TBotNik | All: K back now I can ping from the U-Box. I get the IPs on net at Win-Box, but can not ping from there. Still needing the nameserver info to passthru, so all help appreciated. Thanks! |
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| 07:00.42 | burhan | what does (DUP!) mean in a ping response? |
| 07:00.59 | wols | burhan: duplicate I'd say |
| 07:01.20 | AimHere | Doranwen, 'ntop' has been in debian since forever ago. Shouldn't you be able to apt-get (or your package manager of choice) it? |
| 07:01.21 | burhan | yeah but what does that mean - network is not setup correctly? |
| 07:01.40 | AimHere | Okay, I read up, ignore me |
| 07:01.45 | wols | it means it pinged one host and got two replies back |
| 07:02.12 | Doranwen | I ran across this but don't know what to do from here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/ntop/files/ntop/ |
| 07:02.17 | burhan | hrmm, that's normal? |
| 07:02.24 | wols | no it's not |
| 07:02.31 | Doranwen | and I really just need a deb for etch if there is one anywhere |
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| 07:02.40 | Doranwen | but in 3 min not sure if that's possible |
| 07:02.54 | Doranwen | may have to take another bandwidth hit and wait another night to figure out what the problem is |
| 07:03.01 | Doranwen | then wait another night to tackle it, lol |
| 07:03.20 | burhan | so this is probably nothing to do with the way /etc/network/interfaces is setup? |
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| 07:04.12 | burhan | because honestly I was not sure what to put in the "network" setting (no dhcp on the network) |
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| 07:05.56 | FunkyBob | streuner_: oh, lovely... word from the front line... for some reason, the install returned to partman, and has choked again.... FUCK! |
| 07:06.34 | streuner_ | FunkyBob: so you are using a testing iso, by any chance? |
| 07:06.45 | FunkyBob | streuner_: nope |
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| 07:07.09 | FunkyBob | unless this is a testing ISO: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 07:07.27 | streuner_ | thats stable/squeeze |
| 07:07.33 | FunkyBob | that's what I thought |
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| 07:08.02 | CruX| | hello ttf-mscorefonts-installer is not available in squeeze for me |
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| 07:08.15 | CruX| | what repository needs to be enabled ? |
| 07:08.18 | CruX| | nonfree ? |
| 07:08.25 | yebyen | nonfree or contrib |
| 07:08.36 | Driver|krsK | nonfree |
| 07:09.02 | streuner_ | judd, versions ttf-mscorefonts-installer |
| 07:09.02 | judd | Package ttf-mscorefonts-installer on i386 -- lenny/contrib: 2.7; sid/contrib: 3.3; squeeze/contrib: 3.3; wheezy/contrib: 3.3 |
| 07:09.22 | Driver|krsK | hmmm |
| 07:09.28 | yebyen | blam |
| 07:09.43 | Driver|krsK | why contrib? |
| 07:09.46 | Driver|krsK | ahhh |
| 07:09.51 | Driver|krsK | installer -_- |
| 07:10.35 | Driver|krsK | then contrib right |
| 07:11.15 | CruX| | can any1 put me sources.list for squeeze to pastebin ? |
| 07:11.20 | CruX| | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile squeeze/volatile main |
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| 07:11.25 | CruX| | this repo is obsolete ? |
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| 07:12.15 | streuner_ | CruX|: /msg dpkg volatile ; /msg dpkg contrib |
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| 07:18.32 | CruX| | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile squeeze/volatile main contrib non-free |
| 07:18.39 | CruX| | is this line correct ? |
| 07:18.52 | CruX| | I got lot of 404 errors during update :( |
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| 07:20.01 | jk | CruX|: as of Squeeze, it's called squeeze-updates |
| 07:20.15 | jk | deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free |
| 07:20.18 | jk | or something like it |
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| 07:20.39 | streuner_ | dpkg, squeeze volatile |
| 07:20.40 | dpkg | The Debian <Volatile> archive is discontinued starting from Debian 6.0, replaced by the squeeze-updates suite on official mirrors. Your squeeze sources.list could have "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free". http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates . Not to be confused with <squeeze/updates>, ask me about <security>. |
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| 07:25.25 | CruX| | well ttf-mscorefonts-installer is still not available :( |
| 07:26.05 | CruX| | what is missing ? http://pastebin.com/sLZckjL8 |
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| 07:28.14 | jk | CruX|: 'contrib' at the end of the first line (you might want to add non-free too), and you can add those to the security.debian.org line as well |
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| 07:29.33 | TBotNik | All: UPDATE: Getting IPs on this remote network but can not ping any names like "www.google.com" from the network machines, but can ping googles address of 74.125.47.99, so know it is a nameserver problem |
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| 07:31.03 | CruX| | jk: great |
| 07:31.07 | CruX| | it works |
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| 07:31.41 | CruX| | but aircrack-ng is missing, -> it's not in deb repository ? |
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| 07:31.55 | solars | how can I install git 1.7.4.1 on debian lenny? the current version is buggy |
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| 07:32.21 | CruX| | solars: compile from sources |
| 07:32.24 | streuner_ | judd, versions aircrack-ng |
| 07:32.25 | judd | Package aircrack-ng on i386 -- lenny: 1:1.0~rc1-2; sid: 1:1.1-1.1 |
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| 07:32.46 | CruX| | streuner_: squeeze is missing ? |
| 07:32.57 | streuner_ | CruX|: its available in sid, just /msg dpkg ssb, and please read the whole factoid now :-) |
| 07:33.00 | streuner_ | yes |
| 07:33.08 | streuner_ | its not in squeeze |
| 07:33.17 | streuner_ | according to the bot judd |
| 07:34.33 | solars | CruX|, there is also a way using packages I guess, right? |
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| 07:35.23 | streuner_ | judd, versions git |
| 07:35.23 | judd | Package git on i386 -- lenny: 4.9.4-1; lenny-backports: 1:1.7.2.3-2.2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-2; sid: 1:1.7.5.4-1; wheezy: 1:1.7.5.4-1; experimental: 1:1.7.6-1 |
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| 07:36.42 | streuner_ | solars: 1.7.2 is available in lenny-backports, if you need 1.7.5, just make a backport of it |
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| 07:37.17 | solars | I need at least 1.7.4.1 |
| 07:37.25 | streuner_ | solars: /msg dpkg backports then |
| 07:37.27 | solars | streuner_, can you give me any pointers to read how to do this? |
| 07:37.30 | solars | thanks |
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| 07:56.49 | TBotNik | All: Re-ran my config capture script and posted in PB at: http://pastebin.com/yC9fcguh |
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| 08:11.06 | zorrolero | TBotNik: maybe you should add something like this "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 141.1.1.1" to your /etc/network/interfaces (via http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration) |
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| 08:20.59 | TBotNik | zorrolero: Working on it |
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| 08:22.03 | kdawg_ | weird question is apt-get extremely slow right now on debian 5.0 |
| 08:22.20 | wols | no |
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| 08:22.29 | wols | your debian mirror might be slow for example |
| 08:22.35 | kdawg_ | might be a stupid question just my server ssh is really slow right now |
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| 08:23.29 | marisn | one of my squeeze (2.6.32-5-amd64) servers time to time during night goes into high load mode. It's still running (I can ping and see log files), still I can't SSH into it to see WTF?!? |
| 08:23.42 | marisn | ideas how to find out offending process/reason? |
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| 08:25.24 | Blue1 | kdawg_: I think a router is out somewhere I am getting some very slow traffic for some sites |
| 08:25.34 | kdawg_ | Okay its come down to it that is a preoblem with the server ping response is encredibly bad right now average 75% packet lose think i'll message the isp |
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| 08:25.58 | kdawg_ | Never had a problem with that before |
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| 08:26.22 | Blue1 | kdawg_: I am having trouble reaching websites in northern california, from so. arizona |
| 08:26.53 | kdawg_ | i am having issues from canada to france where the server is located |
| 08:27.08 | kdawg_ | just relised something |
| 08:27.28 | kdawg_ | there is some kind if vkvm on this setup which i not used to |
| 08:27.37 | Blue1 | traceroute might shed some light |
| 08:27.39 | kdawg_ | you'd think they would let us no |
| 08:28.01 | kdawg_ | but i've had a server through them before with no kvm of any kind |
| 08:28.22 | kdawg_ | so maybe thats why but they should have ssh shipped out with there server is what i don't understand |
| 08:28.50 | Blue1 | yeah I am not getting past los angeles |
| 08:29.19 | kdawg_ | tracing now lets see where it gets me |
| 08:29.30 | Blue1 | kewl |
| 08:29.45 | kdawg_ | i'm on a windows system lol accessing a linux server |
| 08:29.49 | Blue1 | kdawg_: what province are you in? |
| 08:30.06 | kdawg_ | BC |
| 08:30.18 | Blue1 | yeah that might get routed to la too, who knows? |
| 08:30.50 | kdawg_ | has and issue between shawcable and the data center |
| 08:30.53 | Blue1 | let me see if I can get the san jose mercury news |
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| 08:32.19 | Blue1 | nope |
| 08:32.25 | kdawg_ | Shouldn't be taking this long to set up |
| 08:32.30 | Blue1 | different stopping point |
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| 08:32.50 | kdawg_ | Wonder if there is a problem with my ISP and these guys |
| 08:33.09 | Blue1 | i think it's router somewhere -- acts more like that |
| 08:34.51 | Blue1 | wow I tried to hit a local site here, and it routed me via chicago |
| 08:34.56 | kdawg_ | Could be i just wish ovh would actually answer me on site |
| 08:35.15 | kdawg_ | Their customer service sucks |
| 08:35.23 | kdawg_ | but then again i never had a problem before |
| 08:35.30 | Blue1 | it does work though |
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| 08:35.48 | Blue1 | well we don't call them cox suckers for nothing here. |
| 08:36.40 | Blue1 | ru with shaw or rogers? |
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| 08:36.51 | Blue1 | ahh shaw |
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| 08:39.38 | Blue1 | whoa -- this is an ip you don't see -- a 192 that's NOT a lan! traceroute to azstarnet.com (192.104.182.109), |
| 08:40.20 | kdawg_ | lol |
| 08:40.23 | kdawg_ | thats a router ip |
| 08:40.43 | wols | Blue1: only the 192.168/16 is in RFC1918 |
| 08:41.12 | kdawg_ | internal ip sorry not external to be more exact |
| 08:41.20 | Blue1 | wols: correct - but I have never seen anything outside the 192.168 realm till just now |
| 08:42.21 | colo-work | well, welcome to the internet then. |
| 08:42.39 | Blue1 | naw - I just have never encountered that - that's all |
| 08:43.09 | Blue1 | i knew that 192.168 was for lan - but I had never seen a 192 address that was a lan till today. |
| 08:43.21 | Blue1 | wasnt |
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| 08:43.46 | kdawg_ | oic |
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| 08:45.20 | chris2 | hi. i've recently reinstalled a server with lenny, and now my nfs+xfs setup is really slow, even tho the configs seem to be the same |
| 08:45.28 | chris2 | any ideas how to debug that? |
| 08:46.21 | chris2 | erm, lenny->squeeze |
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| 08:46.42 | Blue1 | chris2: obvious question - update or fresh install? |
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| 08:47.13 | chris2 | Blue1: fresh install |
| 08:47.34 | Blue1 | chris2: and you copied over the config files from a saved copy of /etc/ |
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| 08:48.22 | chris2 | Blue1: yeah |
| 08:48.32 | chris2 | i just checked /etc/defaults/nfs* and /etc/exports |
| 08:48.44 | chris2 | also checked file system and mount options |
| 08:48.45 | Blue1 | should have worked -- that's what I did.... |
| 08:48.51 | chris2 | well it works |
| 08:49.00 | Blue1 | did you look at fstab and see if it jacked up anything there? |
| 08:49.00 | chris2 | but it is really slow |
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| 08:49.04 | Blue1 | and mtab |
| 08:49.29 | chris2 | both plain xfs |
| 08:49.33 | Blue1 | i had automount issues ru using automount? |
| 08:49.41 | chris2 | nope |
| 08:49.56 | Blue1 | hmm |
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| 08:50.06 | chris2 | network speed is ok. i get 26mb/s with scp |
| 08:50.16 | Blue1 | that's good |
| 08:50.34 | Blue1 | i get about 3 meg on my system |
| 08:50.41 | chris2 | i can unpack tar.gz and really see how each file gets extracted |
| 08:50.48 | chris2 | if i do it on the server, it works instantly |
| 08:50.58 | chris2 | thus the problem really seems to be nfs |
| 08:51.25 | Blue1 | i am not uber experienced with nfs - I have played with it got it working and about it. |
| 08:52.02 | Blue1 | chris2: any firewalls? |
| 08:52.09 | chris2 | should not have changed |
| 08:52.28 | chris2 | but i'll have a look at them |
| 08:52.39 | Blue1 | okay shoot me I come from the ubuntu word |
| 08:52.46 | Blue1 | sudo ufw status |
| 08:53.13 | chris2 | oh, we have a "real" firewall |
| 08:53.15 | Blue1 | should be inactive -- |
| 08:53.21 | Blue1 | router? |
| 08:53.28 | chris2 | no iptables i guess |
| 08:53.33 | Blue1 | yup |
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| 08:53.41 | Blue1 | i cheat and use webmin |
| 08:53.43 | chris2 | iptables is empty |
| 08:53.45 | tartocode | hi |
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| 08:54.06 | Blue1 | iptables and vi are the two things I haven't mastered yet |
| 08:54.24 | chris2 | hah |
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| 08:54.32 | chris2 | i use both |
| 08:54.40 | chris2 | but here we have a cisco for firewalling |
| 08:54.44 | chris2 | which utterly sucks |
| 08:54.48 | Blue1 | chris2: i do this kinda stuff: http://www.pkill-9.com |
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| 08:55.42 | Blue1 | okay almost 2 am my brain turns into a pumpkin then |
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| 08:58.30 | FunkyBob | intersting that nobody seemed to spot "dies without optimisation, works with it" as an unitialised data bug... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=602568 |
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| 09:03.47 | vtts | irssi |
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| 09:11.55 | colo-work | barf, irssi or weechat |
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| 09:17.18 | TBotNik | All: That last move of purging Network Manager killed my network, so had to run from the liveCD to get back up. Posting errors in PB as soon as I can recall/remember how to chroot to the HDD and get the errors file I saved. |
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| 09:17.28 | Famic | hi |
| 09:17.51 | Famic | I'm trying to install java and I get http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/s/sun-java6/sun-java6-jre_6.24-1~squeeze1_all.deb : 404 Not Found [IP : 212.27.32.66 80] |
| 09:18.07 | Famic | I'm using aptitude install sun-java6-bin |
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| 09:18.18 | Famic | the non-free repositories are in my sources.list |
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| 09:18.43 | Famic | anyn idea what's going wrong (or any other way to install java through apt) ? |
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| 09:20.54 | Ticho | Famic: perhaps try a different mirror |
| 09:21.49 | Ticho | Famic: or apt-get update - that mirror only has 6.26 for squeeze |
| 09:22.33 | Famic | looks like apt-get update fails |
| 09:22.44 | Famic | W: Impossible de récupérer http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/Release Unable to find expected entry squeeze-updates/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
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| 09:26.35 | Famic | nevermind, removing suqeezes-updates from sources.list did the trick |
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| 09:28.40 | TBotNik | All: K my restart and reboot errors are at: http://pastebin.com/Dh9AMdyq |
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| 09:35.15 | TBotNik | All: Dang it, as always, when you are making progress and you crash; the guy you were working with goes away and you start over. |
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| 09:37.32 | marisn | any ideas how to find a server process that time to time leads to extra high system load and makes server unresponsive? |
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| 09:38.26 | Odaym | fork bomb! :) |
| 09:38.29 | wols | marisn: top |
| 09:38.35 | vtts | marisn, turn off swap and check oom messages :) |
| 09:38.35 | Odaym | set it as a cron job |
| 09:38.35 | An_Ony_Moose | would it be possible to use debootstrap to install linux mint to an empty partition? |
| 09:38.44 | wols | and press "c" in top |
| 09:38.53 | marisn | wols: not funny. vtts: hm. an idea... |
| 09:39.06 | wols | An_Ony_Moose: probably. best ask mint if they work with debootstrap |
| 09:39.17 | wols | marisn: why not funny? |
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| 09:39.37 | TBotNik | All: When I chroot to HDD from liveCD and run synaptic is RAM copy from liveCD or the root copy on the HDD being modified? |
| 09:39.41 | An_Ony_Moose | wols: I did... debootstrap isn't in the mint repository though, and I can't find any mint debootstrap scripts. So is that a no? |
| 09:40.07 | marisn | wols: it happens time to time during nigh and when it happens, load is too high to SSH into box |
| 09:40.26 | TBotNik | wols: Hey! |
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| 09:42.34 | An_Ony_Moose | ah whatever, I'll use ubuntu |
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| 09:43.38 | marisn | vtts: disabled all swap and will wait for OOM to come ;) |
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| 09:44.30 | marisn | still it needs some time with low load and then a fast transition into system state with high load... |
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| 09:46.46 | wols | TBotNik: when you chroot it's the chroot (HDD) that is modified |
| 09:47.05 | wols | marisn: high system load is not really an OOM scenario, is it? |
| 09:47.08 | TBotNik | All: Did anyone look at my latest error on PB at: http://pastebin.com/Dh9AMdyq? I need to recover my network again. Was advised to purge Network Manager, as it kept overwriting the /etc/resolv.conf file, so we could not get the nameserver working. When I purged NM it took the wlan0 configs out completely and now having to boot from liveCD to have inet access to fix this latest screw up. HEEEELLLLP! |
| 09:47.13 | wols | unless due to swapping |
| 09:47.33 | wols | TBotNik: you need to tell us what crap is in your /etc/network/interfaces to make any guesses |
| 09:47.55 | TBotNik | wols: But should I just put NM back in since it was overwriting the resolv.conf file all the time? |
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| 09:48.23 | wols | whatever you want to use: NM, wicd or interfaces? |
| 09:48.29 | marisn | wols: it could be swapping issue. Log files are clean and I can't login - thus I can't see what's going on |
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| 09:50.06 | TBotNik | wols: Hey since I've been banging on this one for more than 3 days, I wrote a bash script that grabs all my config files at once and that is what I keep posting in the PB. Just a min, I need to log in there and look for the latest config post, as on the liveCD now, so don't have my correct settings. |
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| 09:53.42 | wols | TBotNik: it this a debian or a ubuntu you try to fix? |
| 09:54.16 | wols | and what do you want to use? interfaces, wicd or networkmanager |
| 09:54.34 | TBotNik | wols: UBox |
| 09:54.52 | wols | what is Ubox? |
| 09:55.29 | wols | are you running debian on the broken installation? |
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| 09:57.01 | imgrey | good day #debian |
| 09:57.22 | imgrey | Could someone PLEASE tell me how to turn off f%cking FRAMEBUFFER ? |
| 09:57.48 | imgrey | I upgraded kernel and now it ise FRAMEBUFFER by default |
| 09:58.00 | imgrey | I got Intel card on my desktop and it is just awful |
| 09:58.04 | TBotNik | wols: I want to use what works. Had the dhcp3-server giving me IPs and could ping to hard addresses from the other machine on the network through the eth0 (LAN) to wlan0 (INET) bridge, but could not get the nameservers working right, partially because NM was always re-writing the resolv.conf file. I figure there is a way to get it to put in the right nameserver crap, but did not know how, nor did those helping me, so we remove NM to try to |
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| 09:58.57 | dokma | is there a way to allow access to one folder outside of chroot environment ?? |
| 09:59.00 | wols | !nofb |
| 09:59.00 | dpkg | To disable framebuffer use at Debian installation time, supply the "fb=false" (d-i) or "video=vga16:off" (kernel) boot options. |
| 09:59.12 | imgrey | LOOK: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/screenshotyo.png/ |
| 09:59.15 | imgrey | WTF is that ? |
| 09:59.16 | TBotNik | wols: Man I am so close on this, but keep bumping my head against the wall. |
| 09:59.16 | wols | dokma: symlink the folder into your chroot |
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| 09:59.33 | dokma | wols: shouldn't that fail? |
| 09:59.41 | imgrey | I tried to work in such conditions for about a month, but that's it, I cannot tolerate it any longer |
| 10:00.04 | blue_sky | An installed package has somehow become broken. How do I force apt or dpkg to re-install the package? |
| 10:00.15 | imgrey | Who's perverted imagination produced such shit as framebuffer ? |
| 10:00.26 | imgrey | and then put that as default video driver |
| 10:00.33 | imgrey | want to kill somebody |
| 10:00.48 | dokma | wols: that fails as expected |
| 10:00.54 | timo | blue_sky: apt-get --reinstall install <package> |
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| 10:01.14 | dokma | it's the purpose of chroot to disallow to cd outside so ordinary symlink fails |
| 10:01.34 | dokma | if it's possible at all there must be another technique |
| 10:01.39 | TBotNik | timo: Need the --fix-broken with it, think my syntax is correct |
| 10:02.29 | blue_sky | timo: TY, hasn't fixed the problem, perhaps the package is already broken... will check bug reports. TY anyway |
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| 10:03.33 | timo | TBotNik: if there are broken dependencies, as far as I understand |
| 10:03.36 | barf | and here came barfster |
| 10:03.40 | barf | irssi |
| 10:03.59 | timo | blue_sky: what kind of breakage are you experiencing? |
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| 10:04.16 | barfster | Is there tabbed browsing in irssi? Or how does several chat rooms simultanously work? |
| 10:04.36 | tvm | barfster: they're in separate windows |
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| 10:04.55 | tvm | barfster: so technically, they're 'tabs' yeah |
| 10:05.00 | TBotNik | timo: Never hurts to run with that option, when something goes bump, but also doing a direct search of the repositories and upgrading the repo directory is good too. |
| 10:05.39 | blue_sky | timo: package python-support has broken symlinks, /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/python-supporth.pth points to non-existent file ... also s/4/5/ same problem (current stable verson) |
| 10:06.02 | timo | barfster: you can also split the screen, so you have two or more windows visible at the same time |
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| 10:06.15 | blue_sky | s/supporth/support/ |
| 10:06.18 | TBotNik | timo: If you ever work with CentOS, you'll learn to practice that daily, repos are all over the place there and installing something simple like MONDO, will have you going everywhere to get the build done. |
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| 10:08.18 | TBotNik | timo: Took me 6 weeks to get a MONDO build on one box, because had TRIX PBX which would not allow any upgrades, so see how much fun I had? HA HA LOL |
| 10:08.58 | timo | TBotNik: fortunately, I haven't had to touch CentOS. i use debian stable and only official repositories, (almost) never problems with dependencies |
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| 10:10.26 | TBotNik | timo: I know, debian and ubuntu are the easiest and most stable and all the packages, even the Asterisk PBX forks, like TRIX run and accept all upgrades on these 2. We are sooo blessed. |
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| 10:10.53 | TBotNik | wols: What did you think of the configs? |
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| 10:14.05 | TBotNik | wols: What is your suggestion? |
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| 10:21.51 | D4T | just removed apache2 in debian squeeze with a apt-get purge, however when i re-install with apt-get install it doesnt recreate the configs in /etc/ ? |
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| 10:23.06 | epsilon | just delete /etc/apache2 if you want clean new config files |
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| 10:23.27 | D4T | i did but it doesnt get re-created? |
| 10:23.34 | epsilon | it should have |
| 10:23.41 | D4T | thats what i thought! |
| 10:23.42 | D4T | lol |
| 10:24.06 | epsilon | you have no /etc/apache2 after install? |
| 10:24.13 | D4T | exactly |
| 10:24.28 | epsilon | then... something went terribly wrong |
| 10:24.31 | simonlnu | it's not in 'apache2' |
| 10:24.51 | D4T | really? i had an apache2 folder before? |
| 10:25.29 | simonlnu | apache2.2-common |
| 10:25.38 | simonlnu | (common mistake) |
| 10:25.39 | barf | tvm: How can I switch between them? |
| 10:25.48 | barf | Is there some key combo? |
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| 10:26.20 | barf | also how can I filter/grep page up inside screen? is turning on logging and grepping the transcripts my only way to go? |
| 10:26.48 | epsilon | simonlnu: apache2 is a metapackage which also depends on -common |
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| 10:27.02 | D4T | simonlnu: just realised that ty. looking better so far :D |
| 10:27.45 | epsilon | ah you didn't uninstall all apache-packages, just the metapackage? |
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| 10:27.59 | D4T | yup |
| 10:28.16 | tvm | barf: /window next |
| 10:28.17 | tvm | barf: alt+[0-9] should also work |
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| 10:29.10 | epsilon | D4T: dpkg --get-selections '*apache*' |
| 10:29.17 | D4T | ty |
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| 10:30.30 | barfster | and if I would like to enter 2 rooms, on each their servers? |
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| 10:36.16 | TBotNik | All: Dang it's late, later off to Z land 4 me!! Cheers!! :) :) |
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| 10:37.22 | D4T | ok now apache2 seems to be ignoring the envvars file :/ |
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| 10:40.40 | sedulous | what's a pragmatic way to run a PHP web app as a separate user? apache2-mpm-itk? |
| 10:41.26 | Coornail | suphp I think |
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| 10:41.54 | colo-work | sedulous, mpm-itk is a fine choice. |
| 10:42.00 | sedulous | thanks |
| 10:42.08 | Coornail | apc won't work with it I think, and who knows what else |
| 10:42.11 | colo-work | especially if you don't do SSL/TLS. but even if you do, it's perfectly fine for most requirements. |
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| 10:43.29 | sedulous | oh, i'm going to need https |
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| 10:44.11 | colo-work | the "problem" with itk is that httpd processes run under EUID 0 until the HTTP 1.1 vhost is determined |
| 10:44.23 | colo-work | that means that the SSL handshake also happens while running as root |
| 10:44.29 | colo-work | that worries some folks. |
| 10:45.03 | sedulous | yes |
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| 10:45.51 | fleischergesell | sedulous: Use FastCGI with Suexec, then you can run not only php but any cgi/fcgi as a specified user |
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| 10:46.07 | sedulous | i like python's WSGI solution. that's easy to configure with separate privileges and works well |
| 10:46.29 | colo-work | you could use mod_fcgid and PHP with suexec. I built such a setup once. |
| 10:46.29 | sedulous | thanks, fleischergesell, i'll consider that too |
| 10:46.41 | colo-work | today, I'm just running mpm-itk without looking back |
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| 10:46.43 | fleischergesell | sedulous: WSGI should have the same secutiry implications as itk, though |
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| 10:47.25 | fleischergesell | Or is the wsgi-binary setuid root? |
| 10:48.23 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 10:49.06 | OleMoudi | hid3, is there any standard command line tool to periodically monitor response time of a webpage ? |
| 10:49.12 | OleMoudi | or should I code one myself :/ |
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| 10:50.16 | fleischergesell | OleMoudi: "time wget url -O /dev/null" would be the easiest just to get a number |
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| 10:50.22 | petemc | ive used smokeping to measure latency in the past |
| 10:50.43 | sedulous | fleischergesell: mod_wsgi is just a single apache .so module. i'm not familiar with the internals tho |
| 10:51.18 | fleischergesell | For real monitoring there is other tools. You probably could easily write a munin-plugin to measure response/output time for a webpage |
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| 10:52.10 | colo-work | or use zabbix, to get that feature built-in, and with stuff like session/cookie-support and multiple steps |
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| 10:53.15 | fleischergesell | sedulous: Well, if you run it in daemon mode (that is, with deditacted per user vhost-like applications) there is certainly a binary or the like involved. And if that is not setuid root, the root-apache process has to fork that daemon process itself |
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| 11:23.03 | disposable | roughly at the same time as i upgraded from squeeze to testing (2.6.38-2 kernel), these messages started appearing in my /var/log/syslog. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/652360/ Can anybody please decrypt them for me? i need to know whether i should return the cpu or mobo. |
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| 11:32.07 | th0r | disposable: I would back up to squeeze before blaming the hardware |
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| 11:41.43 | disposable | th0r: i've tried 2.6.38 and 2.6.39 kernels, same error messages and at ridiculous frequencies - sometimes faster, sometimes slower. i had to shutdown rsyslog to get any work done. i'll boot live ubuntu just to be sure. |
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| 11:46.08 | th0r | disposable: there is a reason they call it 'testing' |
| 11:46.46 | simplechat | Hey, is there any way to tell mdadm to automatically readd all devices on device recreation? |
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| 11:47.03 | simplechat | rather then having to mdadm --assemble then --manage --add each device back in manually? |
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| 11:47.57 | wols | disposable: if you really want, you can run memtest overnight to check your hardware. the error simply means a problem with your L3 cache. Phenom or intel core i? |
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| 12:19.04 | razz11 | sorry to ask this question here but without registration I cannot use the #fedora channel, I am trying to create a live USB of fedora DVD iso with dd, but keeps failing to boot? any help |
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| 12:19.38 | themill | razz11: /msg nickserv help register; or ask in ##linux |
| 12:20.09 | razz11 | themill: thanks |
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| 12:40.14 | GreenDance | Afternoon :) |
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| 12:44.29 | r3m | Hi, I a2enmod mod_userdir. One of my user is not familiar with scp. But ftp is plain text. I heard there is a way to secure ftp. Which ftp deamon do you recommend? thanks |
| 12:44.52 | abrotman | r3m: have your user use filezilla from windows? |
| 12:45.00 | r3m | abrotman: yes |
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| 12:45.16 | abrotman | r3m: i'm saying, you can use that with the ssh server your system is already running |
| 12:45.45 | r3m | nice, thanks! |
| 12:45.53 | abrotman | r3m: one o fthe options is 'ftp over ssh' or something like that .. have your user try that one |
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| 12:46.39 | r3m | abrotman: well my user use filezilla |
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| 12:47.00 | abrotman | r3m: okay, well, now they're going to use a different auth method ... |
| 12:47.39 | r3m | abrotman: thanks, can you just give me the term? I will google it |
| 12:47.49 | abrotman | i did? |
| 12:47.56 | r3m | ftp over ssh? |
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| 12:48.27 | r3m | abrotman: thanks |
| 12:48.29 | abrotman | r3m: i believe that's the phrase it uses |
| 12:49.11 | abrotman | r3m: http://wiki.filezilla-project.org/Howto .. for example |
| 12:49.22 | abrotman | r3m: that one is using keys .. you don't have to do that |
| 12:49.40 | r3m | abrotman: thanks a lot! |
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| 12:49.48 | themill | istr you can just give filezilla an sftp://username@hostname/path/ url and it copes |
| 12:50.50 | abrotman | you can .. i was talking about using the GUI "Site Manager" |
| 12:51.37 | abrotman | (he did say it's a windows user!) |
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| 12:57.14 | dub54 | hey, I've got a debian vps, it's been working fine for months but all of a sudden I can't create files properly, I have permission to create the files through ftp but the owner isn't the account and when I chmod file.txt, it throws Requested Range Not Satisfiable |
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| 13:04.28 | burhan | dub54: ran out of disk space? |
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| 13:05.43 | dub54 | burhan: nope |
| 13:06.06 | SandmanNet | Yeah, debian needs more animation in its GUI, like OSX Lion... that would make it a lot better. |
| 13:06.07 | SandmanNet | ;P |
| 13:06.23 | SandmanNet | bash has *WAY* too few animations. :P |
| 13:07.01 | fbs | is it possible to install wordpress without installing apache2? |
| 13:07.11 | SandmanNet | How would you access it? |
| 13:07.15 | fbs | nginx |
| 13:07.42 | SandmanNet | Would permalinks work? |
| 13:08.25 | fbs | need to try that |
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| 13:09.16 | fbs | http://wiki.nginx.org/Wordpress |
| 13:09.42 | fbs | it looks like it should work. |
| 13:09.45 | aguitel | how to add nm-applet icon in kde ? |
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| 13:10.39 | fbs | I just wonder why wordpress depends on apache2, why isnt apache not made Recommend? |
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| 13:12.33 | Bushmills | apache is not a package in debian any longer |
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| 13:13.38 | fbs | apache2 is? |
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| 13:13.44 | Bushmills | yes |
| 13:14.26 | fbs | bit offtopic? |
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| 13:15.33 | th0r | I have debian running on a 40G harddrive at present. I want to dd onto a 40G partition on a new 340G hard drive. Will dd create the correct sized partition and filesystem or do I need to partition and format the drive before starting the copy? |
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| 13:16.50 | Bushmills | dd will create a file, which is in this case a disk image. it won't change it, therefore not have suddenly larger partitions than the original had |
| 13:17.02 | Bushmills | you may want to look at rsync |
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| 13:17.33 | th0r | Bushmills: I have rsync running for other purposes. Is there an advantage? |
| 13:17.54 | Bushmills | over dd? yes - you can copy from old drive to partition of new drive |
| 13:18.07 | th0r | Bushmills: and would it take care of the boot sector as well? |
| 13:18.14 | Bushmills | no. |
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| 13:18.36 | th0r | Bushmills: this is a totally new drive, and I want to end up with linux on a 20G partition, and the remainder on /home |
| 13:18.38 | Bushmills | grub-install will take care of that |
| 13:19.15 | Bushmills | when dd'ing the image from old drive, there won't be a remainder |
| 13:19.34 | th0r | Bushmills: yeah, that is what I was afraid of. Will research using rsync...thanks |
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| 13:21.23 | th0r | Bushmills: if I use rsync, do I need to chroot to run grub-install, or can I just tell grub-install /dev/sdb? |
| 13:21.54 | Bushmills | grub-install has an option for installing to a different device |
| 13:22.40 | abrotman | fbs: apache2 is .. apache1 is not |
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| 13:44.17 | RioKuro | Hey everyone, I'm trying to do a 'reset' of a debian system. I only want to have the packages installed in the base systems group and ssh server group of tasksel. All other packages have to be uninstalled. A reinstall is not an option |
| 13:44.49 | RioKuro | does anyone have an idea? normal tasksel with those groups doesn't remove other packages |
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| 13:45.28 | abrotman | RioKuro: you can use aptitude to do something like that .. *check* before running this to see what it's removing .. aptitude remove '~poptional' .. for example |
| 13:45.46 | abrotman | or purge if you want ot purge |
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| 13:46.21 | RioKuro | abrotman: thanks I'll check it out! |
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| 13:51.44 | quitte | is apt breaking in sid a known problem? maybe even with a known solution? |
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| 13:54.36 | aguitel | why keyboard numeric led is off if i put on in systemsettings ? |
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| 13:58.00 | quitte | aguitel: what exactly is the name of the menupoint where you set that? |
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| 13:58.27 | quitte | aguitel: the alternative layout thing? |
| 13:58.51 | frussif | hello how do i fix sound |
| 13:58.58 | aguitel | quitte, i am in squeeze kde in want the led of numeric keyboard enable |
| 13:59.02 | Bushmills | frussif: glue? |
| 13:59.19 | frussif | ill see if that works |
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| 13:59.34 | quitte | aguitel: i don't use kde - so i won't be able to help. why don't you just push num-lock? |
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| 13:59.48 | dandersson | aguitel: see package numlockx |
| 14:00.03 | aguitel | quitte, dandersson i install numlockx |
| 14:00.48 | rozie | hello. does anyone knows anything about multi thread support for gpg in Debian? default installation is single threaded, there are no signs of libgpgme-pth described in gpg docs... |
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| 14:01.03 | dandersson | aguitel: Can you run the binary standalone? Does it work? If so, make it run on session start. |
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| 14:01.12 | quitte | frussif: that depends on how and what is broken. please provide at least some information. |
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| 14:01.35 | dandersson | aguitel: It is supposed to install session scripts automatically (from its description), but help it if it fails. |
| 14:02.01 | frussif | Nothing is muted in asla, kernel modules are loaded, but still no sound |
| 14:02.15 | aguitel | dandersson, standalone is not working |
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| 14:02.34 | quitte | frussif: what kind of hardware? |
| 14:02.57 | aguitel | dandersson, are you in kde? |
| 14:03.14 | dandersson | aguitel: No. |
| 14:03.17 | frussif | onboard laptop, hda intel |
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| 14:03.51 | quitte | does line-out work? |
| 14:03.57 | frussif | nope |
| 14:04.24 | quitte | fr4u |
| 14:04.28 | frussif | oh shit it does work |
| 14:04.34 | quitte | heh |
| 14:04.49 | frussif | i never actually put on the headphoen |
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| 14:04.59 | quitte | got the same problem - might as well try to fix it myself ;) |
| 14:05.02 | frussif | but it seems that the volume is just really really low |
| 14:05.21 | frussif | i can barely hear anything |
| 14:05.25 | quitte | frussif: can you be very specific about the hardware? |
| 14:05.35 | rozie | frussif: which version of Debian? |
| 14:05.37 | frussif | realtek alc269 |
| 14:05.39 | frussif | squeeze |
| 14:06.11 | quitte | frussif: a laptop or a specific motherboard? |
| 14:06.17 | frussif | laptop |
| 14:06.48 | rozie | frussif: had similiar problem on Lenny. take a look on http://rozie.blox.pl/strony/linux-on-fujitsu-siemens-esprimo-V6515.html section Sound |
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| 14:07.11 | quitte | frussif: sigh. brand and model? |
| 14:07.12 | frussif | cool thanks |
| 14:07.25 | frussif | the laptop? vaio e series |
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| 14:08.23 | lamah | The following packages have been kept back: libsane mplayer postgresql postgresql-client postgresql-contrib postgresql-doc 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded. what means that how can i remove/clean this message on apt-get update? |
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| 14:08.41 | themill | !kept back |
| 14:08.41 | dpkg | well, kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available. This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "full-upgrade" and old packages need to be removed as part of the upgrade. To investigate, "aptitude -s install <kept-package>". Also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 Ask me about <full-upgrade>. |
| 14:08.58 | quitte | frussif: that is not specific enough. if you have hardware specific problems please provide enough information that someone trying to help you could by the same exact model. |
| 14:09.09 | quitte | buy |
| 14:09.17 | jhutchins_lt | lamah: Note that aptitude is the recommended tool here. |
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| 14:09.50 | lamah | jhutchins_lt: yea, ok but can i remove this packages? |
| 14:10.00 | themill | lamah: why do you want to remove them? |
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| 14:10.41 | lamah | themill: i think this is an old packages and i think apt-get system removes then if I run it manually but keeps newer versions? |
| 14:11.02 | themill | lamah: you can't have more than one version of a package installed at the same time |
| 14:11.19 | lamah | hmm ok i understand now |
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| 14:12.10 | themill | lamah: if you want to remove those packages, you remove them; if you want to upgrade them, then "aptitude safe-upgrade" (or perhaps "aptitude full-upgrade") will do that for you |
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| 14:12.38 | lamah | well, thanks ok |
| 14:12.40 | lamah | themill |
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| 14:13.03 | ssl | hi all. i need some help setting up a very tiny postfix mailserver on my icybox NAS with a chroot debian system. I have the chroot system working already and trying to get postfix working. the only thing i want to do is to forward all mail (catch-all) sent to my domain to a specified external email address (say gmail) but i cant get it to work. i also cant get logging to work so i can see what is going wrong. can you please help me? |
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| 14:13.44 | disposable | wols: phenom x3 |
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| 14:14.52 | dokma | is there a way to eaves drop a socket between two programs? |
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| 14:16.28 | dokma | I'm getting some issues between sugarcrm and exim4 and would like to know what exactly are they talking to eachother |
| 14:17.00 | lamah | themill: can i use backports in full-upgrade like "aptitude -f backports-squeeze full-upgrade" ? |
| 14:17.04 | sequencesequence | Hi, i'm running a VM using raw disk access, so the block device /dev/sda2 is being used. How can I prevent that partition from being mounted by Linux? Thanks! |
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| 14:17.28 | themill | lamah: no. "aptitude install -t squeeze-backports some-package" is how you should use it. |
| 14:17.39 | themill | (just as the backports.org documentation says) |
| 14:17.57 | ssl | no postfix/chroot experts here? |
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| 14:21.19 | ner0x | Any "todo" trackers with priority settings? |
| 14:21.31 | lamah | themill: i have run the full-upgrade from aptitude but packages are still there in/for kept back in 'update' process |
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| 14:21.35 | llutz | ssl read this? http://serverfault.com/questions/49044/simple-postfix-configuration-forward-all-incoming-email-to-single-address |
| 14:21.58 | karlpinc_ | ssl: set "relayhost=foo.example.com" to relay all outbound mail. |
| 14:22.24 | karlpinc_ | ssl: And you should see stuff in /var/log/mail.* |
| 14:22.53 | karlpinc_ | ner0x: I've heard good things about requesttracker but have not used anything and have no experience. |
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| 14:25.39 | ner0x | karlpinc_: request-tracker package? |
| 14:25.44 | ssl | kartlpinc: the problem is that /var/log/mail.log is empty |
| 14:25.49 | karlpinc_ | !tell sequencesequence about fstab |
| 14:25.52 | wols | dokma: tcp socket? |
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| 14:25.56 | ssl | like mail.info, mail.err and so on |
| 14:25.59 | karlpinc_ | ner0x: Sounds right. |
| 14:26.19 | dokma | wols: yes, I'm using tcpdump atm |
| 14:26.25 | dokma | any better way? |
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| 14:27.02 | minus_ | Hi! I have installed gnome-netstatus-applet. But it doesn't show up in the list when I try to "Add to panel". |
| 14:27.04 | karlpinc_ | ssl: Is the daemon even running? What does "postfix check" say? |
| 14:27.14 | minus_ | Does anyone know what causes this? |
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| 14:27.47 | ner0x | karlpinc_: requires apache? Weird. |
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| 14:28.08 | quitte | minus_: have you tried logging off and in? |
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| 14:28.16 | ssl | karlpinc_ i started it with postfix start and it works. postfix check outputs nothing. i also telnetted to the smtp server and gave him a mail so that part is working |
| 14:28.23 | quitte | s/off/out |
| 14:28.50 | ssl | but i guess some logging deamon isnt running because of the chroot system |
| 14:28.55 | minus_ | quitte: I think I have. I'll try doing it again. |
| 14:29.23 | DogBoy | installing but getting this message about needing some firmware, rtl_nic/rt18168d-2.fw |
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| 14:29.49 | minus_ | quitte: That didn't work :/ |
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| 14:32.58 | sequencesequence | karlpinc_: thanks, but unfortunately I can't find anything about blacklisting a block device from being used by fstab, fstab is probably a good keyword to use when searching though so thanks for that. |
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| 14:35.18 | karlpinc_ | sequencesequence: If it's not in fstab it won't mount at boot. Otherwise I'm not sure there's a facility for preventing someone with root privliges from mounting something that's mountable. You could look into selinux, but if you've got root you ultimately have permission. You could hack up a custom kernel or something, but why? |
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| 14:36.53 | karlpinc_ | ssl: You'll want to log using syslog. Perhaps not using a unix socket but using udp and localhost. (I forget what's the deal with unix sockets and chrooting and the security thereof.) |
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| 14:37.31 | karlpinc_ | DogBoy: See the install guide for how to give the installer non-free firmware. |
| 14:37.48 | wols | karlpinc_: it works fine. I use lmtp with postfix like that (postfix is chrooted) |
| 14:37.56 | karlpinc_ | !tell DogBoy about installer firmware |
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| 14:38.47 | ssl | karlpinc_: how to setup postfix so it uses syslog? is my chroot even running a syslog deamon if not started manually? |
| 14:38.55 | ssl | how to start syslogd manually? |
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| 14:39.16 | karlpinc_ | ssl: Perhaps you're not starting it with /etc/init.d/postfix start so the chroot is not getting setup properly? |
| 14:39.29 | karlpinc_ | !tell ssl about readme.debian |
| 14:39.40 | sequencesequence | karlpinc_: I'm trying to do this on a single-user laptop, i'm trying to prevent the partition from being mounted under Linux because VirtualBox is using the block device for "raw disk" accesd, I don't want to corrupt the NTFS filesystem. I can trust myself to not mount it as root, but it could accidentally be mounted under gnome |
| 14:40.24 | sequencesequence | karsten: Ah but I guess I could probably make a udev rule to remove disk group ownership of that block device |
| 14:40.27 | DogBoy | thanks karlpinc_ |
| 14:40.34 | sequencesequence | karsten: Sry, wrong person |
| 14:40.44 | sequencesequence | karlpinc_: see above, typo :o |
| 14:41.35 | karlpinc_ | sequencesequence: udev might work. You could ask in #gnome if that's the problem. |
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| 14:41.54 | sequencesequence | karlpinc_: sounds like a good idea, thx! |
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| 14:45.02 | dokma | hmmm... I can't get tcpdump to display any normal content between sugarcrm and exim... it all just look like random text |
| 14:45.09 | dokma | and the connection is not encrypted |
| 14:45.19 | dokma | am I missing something obvious in tcpdump? |
| 14:45.44 | dotinwall | May I suggest you use Wireshark? |
| 14:46.13 | dokma | dotinwall: is it command line? this is happening on a dedicated box miles away from me |
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| 14:46.32 | dotinwall | No, it's not. |
| 14:46.50 | jhutchins_lt | dokma: Wireshark might help. |
| 14:46.51 | dokma | dotinwall: any way to use it to eavesdrop on something remote? |
| 14:47.27 | jhutchins_lt | wireshark can run on a different machine to analyse tcpdump traffic. |
| 14:47.43 | dotinwall | I believe you can feed data to it. |
| 14:47.54 | dotinwall | You don't have to listen to the inteface directly. |
| 14:47.56 | dokma | I see! |
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| 14:48.02 | dokma | good I'll dig into it |
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| 14:58.59 | lamah | how can i upgrade kept back packages? |
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| 15:00.11 | petemc | lamah: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 15:00.28 | oznt | hi everyone |
| 15:00.43 | oznt | i hit a problem with my bridged devices |
| 15:00.44 | lamah | petemc: yes i am do that what dpkg says but it still the same |
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| 15:01.13 | oznt | i have a virtual machine which can't ping through a br0 the host, any idea how to solve it ? |
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| 15:01.23 | Zapadlo | !best |
| 15:01.23 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 15:01.32 | krakrjak | lamah: what's being held back? |
| 15:01.33 | wip | hi, is it possible to keep nvidia module but not using a connected monitor (sometimes i will plug a monitor, but sometimes not). right now debian doesn't boot X11 without a monitor... |
| 15:02.12 | quitte | oznt: the ip of the host shouldn't be assigned to the physical interface but to the bridge |
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| 15:02.30 | lamah | krakrjak: libsane postgresql postgresql-client postgresql-contrib postgresql-doc the following package are kept back i am do aptitude -s install <package> or full-upgrade but they are still there in 'update' parameter |
| 15:02.42 | oznt | quitte, you mean, br0 has the address ? |
| 15:02.55 | quitte | oznt: yes. eth0 doessn't |
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| 15:03.55 | oznt | quitte, so i do "ifup br0" |
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| 15:04.51 | krakrjak | wip: disable DPMS in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 15:04.53 | oznt | but there is no response from 192.168.1.30 (the virtual host) |
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| 15:05.21 | wip | is trying DPMS |
| 15:05.24 | oznt | quitte, i get host unreachable |
| 15:05.26 | krakrjak | wip: that should bypass monitor detection and start X anyway. You may need an explicit xorg.conf that sets screen size etc for this to work. |
| 15:05.27 | quitte | oznt: that won't help with proper entries in etc/network/interfaces. /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils has examples iirc |
| 15:05.31 | vlt | Hello. How to enable remote logging for rsyslogd? |
| 15:05.44 | quitte | s/with/without |
| 15:05.53 | krakrjak | lamah: aptitude why-not postgresql |
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| 15:06.36 | lamah | krakrjak: what? |
| 15:06.45 | krakrjak | lamah: also apt-cache policy postgresql might hint at the problem. |
| 15:06.53 | oznt | quitte, what do you mean "won't help with proper entries" ? |
| 15:07.02 | quitte | without proper entries |
| 15:07.25 | krakrjak | lamah: aptitude has why and why-not both are commands for aptitude that can help explain apt policy decisions as to why or why-not a package is being installed/upgraded |
| 15:07.43 | lamah | ah :) |
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| 15:07.55 | krakrjak | lamah: apt-cache policy may help figure this out too. |
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| 15:08.25 | lamah | nothing everywhere it looks ok |
| 15:08.27 | quitte | oznt: the bridge should be ip-less. it is connected to the physical network via eth0. the host is connected to the bridge via br0. and the virtual machines through their respective interfaces. |
| 15:08.37 | krakrjak | lamah: last time I had this there was an upgrade in experimental, but it's priority was such that I could see they were upgradable and it wouldn't install them by default. |
| 15:08.45 | quitte | oznt: that's why br0 instead of eth0 should have the ip. |
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| 15:09.16 | oznt | quitte, when br0 has the ip address i have no network at all - not even the host |
| 15:09.34 | quitte | oznt: is eth0 an interface of the bridge and up? |
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| 15:10.59 | oznt | if i do /etc/init.d/networking start than yes, the eth0 is up, and then i have network to the WAN |
| 15:11.06 | quitte | oznt: when dealing with bridges you may want to disable network-manager |
| 15:11.26 | quitte | oznt: but in that case eth0 is up but also has an ip |
| 15:11.29 | oznt | quitte, it is the first thing i do when i install debian - remove it |
| 15:11.30 | quitte | that is wrong. |
| 15:11.50 | oznt | eth0 has no address |
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| 15:11.55 | lamah | krakrjak: this is only from apt-get |
| 15:11.58 | krakrjak | lamah: if you do an aptitude safe-upgrade does it not install? can I see the pastebin output from that? |
| 15:12.02 | oznt | at least that is what i see when doing ifconfig |
| 15:12.15 | quitte | oznt: ok. does br0 have an address? |
| 15:12.18 | krakrjak | lamah: ok apt-get upgrade output? |
| 15:12.31 | quitte | oznt: and is eth0 an interface of br0? |
| 15:12.41 | oznt | yeah br0 192.168.1.4 |
| 15:12.57 | lamah | hmm |
| 15:13.09 | oznt | quitte, wait i 'll paste my interfaces |
| 15:13.17 | lamah | krakrjak: apt-get upgrade it's ok but apt-get -t squeeze-backports upgrade it shows kept back |
| 15:13.21 | quitte | great. add brutils show |
| 15:13.22 | lamah | krakrjak: only apt-get -t squeeze-backports upgrade |
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| 15:14.23 | oznt | quitte, paste.debian.net/124192 |
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| 15:16.07 | krakrjak | lamah: okay can you pastebin that for me to look at? Maybe with a truncated /var/log/dpkg.log? |
| 15:16.16 | oznt | the second one is in 123193 |
| 15:16.35 | oznt | quitte, i put the output brctl show, not brutils |
| 15:16.53 | quitte | oznt: that's what i meant ;) |
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| 15:18.46 | lamah | krakrjak: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/446815/ what?? :)) heh wgetpaste/paste or > to file shows ok 0 0 0 for upgrade bot only in console screen i got this issue maybe is a log problem YES |
| 15:18.59 | quitte | oznt: hmm i always had to ifconfig eth0 up or add something to interfaces. but that seems to work for you. can you paste ifconfig without any options anyway? |
| 15:19.35 | lamah | krakrjak: but how to fix it |
| 15:19.45 | quitte | oznt: oh |
| 15:19.46 | oznt | 124194 |
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| 15:19.53 | oznt | is the output of ifconfig |
| 15:20.26 | quitte | oznt: if i'm not mistaken you have configured 3 bridges instead of 1 bridge with 3 interfaces |
| 15:20.38 | quitte | eth0 is an interface of br0 |
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| 15:21.03 | quitte | virbr0 and pan0 are bridges without any interfaces? |
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| 15:21.24 | oznt | yes, i think so , they are added by libvirt or virt-manager |
| 15:22.11 | gkwhc | hi, how can I downgrade debian from sid/wheezy to squeeze? |
| 15:22.30 | quitte | i guess we found the cause of the problem. i dont know how to use virt-manager, though. but please don't make a bridge an interface of a bridge. |
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| 15:23.24 | oznt | so how can i delete these bridges ? |
| 15:23.46 | zorrolero | !tell gkwhc about downgrade |
| 15:23.52 | quitte | brctl delbr. but it's probably better to find out what creates them |
| 15:23.56 | oznt | where do you see that about that bridges ? |
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| 15:24.25 | vlt | vlt: Make sure that UDPServerRun or InputTCPServerRun is not commented in the config file. |
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| 15:24.33 | diafygi | howdy all, I'm only seeing a "$" when I ssh into my Debian 6 server. Shouldn't I be seeing a "user@domain:/path/to/folder$"? |
| 15:24.37 | quitte | oznt: at the moment no bridge is an interface of another, if that's what you're asking |
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| 15:25.05 | petemc | diafygi: depends on how $PS1 variable is set |
| 15:25.14 | quitte | oznt: it's just a potential solution that might even work but would cause trouble later |
| 15:25.19 | diafygi | petemc: where can I check that? |
| 15:25.29 | petemc | diafygi: echo $PS1 , mine is \h:\w\$ |
| 15:26.33 | diafygi | petemc: my $PS1 is blank, was I supposed to add an option for that when I "useradd -m user"? |
| 15:26.47 | petemc | diafygi: you should have used adduser |
| 15:27.09 | diafygi | petemc: ahhh |
| 15:27.13 | diafygi | thanks |
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| 15:30.19 | oznt | quitte, i now removed virbr0 |
| 15:30.32 | quitte | oznt: the more i think about it the more i think that adding a bridge to a bridge is a correct way to connect bridges. so if you end up doing that you#ll have to rely on the manual |
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| 15:46.30 | krakrjak | lamah: sorry, got pulled away looking. |
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| 15:47.42 | krakrjak | ooh well he disappeared. Log file was empty anyway... |
| 15:49.26 | psilikon | Can you make a raid 1 partition bootable? |
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| 15:49.59 | SparFux | on install of dahdi module, I get DEPMOD 3.0.0-1-amd64 /bin/sh: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-1-common/scripts/depmod.sh: No such file or directory |
| 15:50.49 | psilikon | SparFux, do you have the kernel headers installed? |
| 15:51.03 | SparFux | psilikon: yes. |
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| 15:51.18 | psilikon | SparFux, did you install build-essential |
| 15:51.32 | SparFux | not recently. |
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| 15:52.13 | SparFux | psilikon: but it's still installed, build-essential. |
| 15:52.34 | Strogg | Has anyone here gotten virtualbox working on wheezy? when I try to start it, I get "RTR3Iinit failed with rc=-1912. Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root." |
| 15:52.45 | Strogg | the problem is, I have that installed, and the module is loaded. |
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| 15:53.32 | Strogg | and I do have the headers installed for my current kernel, too. |
| 15:53.33 | kNC | hi guys. is there a command to see how much bandwidth i have used since my account first got created |
| 15:53.44 | Strogg | I had to go through this mess for my nvidia driver.. Heh. |
| 15:53.47 | psilikon | SparFux, what version of Dahdi? |
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| 15:54.03 | SparFux | psilikon: latest svn it is. |
| 15:54.10 | abrotman | kNC: not unless you set it up when it was started |
| 15:54.15 | SparFux | psilikon: it works with kernel 2.6.39-2. |
| 15:54.39 | gestapo | alsa has activated my soundcard but the mixer isnt working and volume is stuck at full 100%, running 'alsactl init' seems to not recognize the built in sound card |
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| 15:55.06 | gestapo | is says : Hardware is initialized using a guess method |
| 15:55.06 | psilikon | SparFux, I seem to run into issues like that sometimes. Try with the 2.4.1.2 from asterisk.org |
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| 15:55.59 | cahoot | gestapo, I'd consider a nickchange in your place |
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| 15:56.17 | kNC | abrotman. thanks. i went to my control panel and saw: 6.25GB in / 3.89GB out (10.14gb). I am guessing I used 10.14GB in BW? |
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| 15:56.40 | gestapo | cahoot: id stop wasting bandwidth if i was you |
| 15:56.46 | abrotman | reasonable guess .. sounds like their tracking it for you |
| 15:56.56 | kNC | Ok ty |
| 15:57.00 | abrotman | they're |
| 15:57.04 | abrotman | hits himself |
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| 15:57.24 | kNC | dont hit yourself |
| 15:57.25 | kNC | :p |
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| 15:58.01 | GroperYank | so |
| 15:58.37 | DasEi | cahoot: good hint , I also don't like chat with gestapo, thank you |
| 15:58.58 | GroperYank | goddam whiners |
| 15:59.21 | GroperYank | Hitler was a wuss compared to the yank |
| 15:59.24 | DasEi | GroperYank: get the exact s-card model and look up alsorg for your module |
| 15:59.26 | abrotman | GroperYank: that's enough |
| 15:59.37 | th0r | that's an interesting first few lines to see on logging in here |
| 16:00.16 | abrotman | GroperYank: give us your kernel version to start |
| 16:00.58 | GroperYank | im running 2.6.30-1-686 kernel |
| 16:00.59 | SandmanNet | is there a way to use host names of debian boxes on the lan for DNS? I.e I have "Web01" on 10.0.0.22 and I would want to type "ssh root@Web01" to access it |
| 16:01.02 | SandmanNet | Can it be done? |
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| 16:01.16 | SandmanNet | Without a local DNS |
| 16:01.58 | abrotman | GroperYank: uhm .. why? that's not current in any version of Debian |
| 16:01.59 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.05 | SparFux | psilikon: does not even compile: ;-P /home/source/digium/dahdi-linux-2.4.1.2/drivers/dahdi/dahdi_transcode.c:49:31: error: âSPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKEDâ undeclared here (not in a function) |
| 16:02.15 | twobitsprite | SandmanNet: either with local DNS, or add it to /etc/hosts on your local systems |
| 16:02.38 | GroperYank | well i do have some recent kernels installed but they are broken |
| 16:02.38 | SandmanNet | Hmmm, ok... /etc/hosts would work of course... and since my FW only let's me in to on |
| 16:02.43 | SandmanNet | Sorry |
| 16:02.44 | abrotman | GroperYank: broken how? |
| 16:02.45 | SandmanNet | I'll try it |
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| 16:03.03 | GroperYank | when i boot some more recent kernel they just hang on boot |
| 16:03.19 | abrotman | GroperYank: to be fair, i'd work on fixing that |
| 16:03.32 | GroperYank | yea you think thats related ? |
| 16:03.32 | abrotman | is this a new problem wiht your sound card? |
| 16:03.37 | abrotman | or a new sound card? |
| 16:03.49 | GroperYank | no the old alsaconf commmand worked just fine |
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| 16:03.58 | abrotman | wasn't really what i asked? |
| 16:04.10 | GroperYank | so the problem is new but the card is not |
| 16:04.23 | SandmanNet | so entering "10.0.0.21web1" <- would be the correct way? |
| 16:04.24 | GroperYank | and it used to work fine |
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| 16:05.54 | freespeech | so you seem to think that moving to a recent kernel will fix the soundcard problem |
| 16:06.29 | freespeech | dam |
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| 16:08.08 | abrotman | freespeech: stop changing nicks |
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| 16:09.12 | freespeech | jawohl herr abrotman |
| 16:09.17 | freespeech | o/ |
| 16:09.44 | abrotman | wtf |
| 16:09.44 | abrotman | is done .. |
| 16:09.48 | freespeech | click boots |
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| 16:18.19 | jhutchins_lt | !alsaconf |
| 16:18.19 | dpkg | alsaconf is a formerly included <ALSA> configuration tool to detect sound cards. Removed from the alsa-utils package at version 1.0.17-1: "The only valid use-case for alsaconf is aiding the configuration of ISA sound cards." Ask me about <install alsa>, <alsa checklist>, <default alsa>. See also /usr/share/doc/alsa-utils/NEWS.Debian.gz |
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| 16:23.58 | oznt | does some one has experience with vnc on windows ? |
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| 16:28.52 | jhutchins_lt | oznt: What is your specific question? |
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| 16:30.39 | oznt | well, i used to be able to connect form debian to win 7 using vncviewer, but all of a sudden i am getting "No password configured for VNC Auth" which has very vague solutions |
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| 16:35.22 | jhutchins_lt | oznt: Which vnc package are you using? |
| 16:35.48 | jhutchins_lt | oznt: Probably some protocol nonsense with the W7 server. |
| 16:36.20 | sneezewort | Is there a way to have sshd listen on 2 different ports? |
| 16:36.43 | rozie | sneezewort: yes |
| 16:36.48 | rozie | use comma |
| 16:36.49 | rozie | ;) |
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| 16:37.12 | sneezewort | rozie: Ill give that a try. Thanks! |
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| 16:38.02 | rozie | sneezewort: at least AFAIR it worked. don't try it on remote machine (before reading latest manual) |
| 16:38.31 | oznt | jhutchins, i tried tigervnc, tightvnc everything, yesterday tightvnc worked |
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| 16:39.25 | jhutchins_lt | Well, you could try a verbose mode to debug, but I'm guessing the answer lies in stepping through the configuration on the Windows system again. |
| 16:39.31 | jhutchins_lt | oznt: Just a guess though. |
| 16:40.01 | jhutchins_lt | oznt: Windows is prone to "security updates" that break things like RDP. (Oh, that's something else you should probably try.) |
| 16:40.29 | oznt | so an update broke my setup ? |
| 16:40.53 | oznt | ach, configuration in windows ... the thing i like most |
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| 16:43.21 | TBotNik | All: Morning, OK re-installing Network Manager so I can get off this liveCD and back on the HDD bootup. |
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| 16:46.12 | TBotNik | BRB rebooting |
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| 16:46.44 | jhutchins_lt | oznt: Just a guess. |
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| 16:51.00 | oznt | jhutchins_lt, i just installed on another win 7 , it works there, so you are probably right, on that other hosts there are pending updates |
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| 16:52.19 | fish_ | hi |
| 16:52.31 | Hachya | ello feeesh! |
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| 16:53.09 | norbert_ | hey all, I just upgraded to testing and unfortunately when I open a Skype chat window X crashes |
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| 16:53.14 | fish_ | i try to put every repos into a single sources.list. so i have the basic repos in sources.list and stuff like security updates in sources.list.d/security.list |
| 16:53.44 | norbert_ | I had to start kernel 2.6.32, because the latest .39? or .37? didn't have the nvidia drivers in it |
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| 16:54.04 | fish_ | if i try to upgrade (or, in that case simulate a upgrade with -s) with specifing the sourcelist to use, it warns about dublicated sources.list entries |
| 16:54.13 | fish_ | apt-get -s upgrade -o Dir::Etc::SourceList=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/security.list |
| 16:54.38 | fish_ | ie.: "W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ftp.de.debian.org squeeze/updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian-security_dists_squeeze_updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages)" |
| 16:54.47 | jhutchins_lt | norbert_: Congratulations! Your test has succeeded in finding a problem! Please document it so that the rest of the comunity can benefit from your work. Thank you for testing the next release of Debian! |
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| 16:55.23 | norbert_ | jhutchins: is that sarcasm? |
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| 16:55.36 | jhutchins_lt | norbert_: It's entirely sincere. That's what testing is for! |
| 16:55.40 | thekix | hi |
| 16:55.55 | norbert_ | Redhat seems to have had this issue too for some people https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522739 |
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| 16:57.14 | abrotman | wtf is there a bug about skype in the RH bugzilla? |
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| 16:57.16 | karlpinc_ | !tell norbert_ about reportbug |
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| 16:57.32 | berarma | really? "norbert_> I had to start kernel 2.6.32, because the latest .39? or .37? didn't have the nvidia drivers in it" |
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| 16:58.14 | nkuttler | mh. great. the 'obsolte' prism54 driver is disabled... used to work for me though |
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| 16:58.26 | norbert_ | ren:/home/norbert# apt-cache search nvidia-kernel|grep 2.6 |
| 16:58.27 | norbert_ | nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-686 - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.32-5-686 |
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| 16:58.37 | norbert_ | berarma: ^ |
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| 16:59.02 | nickSwe | hi! I am trying to compile a package named mediatomb on debian, and it requires mysql-devel library, but I cannot find it with apt-get install mysql-devel... Any ideas? |
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| 16:59.21 | berarma | norbert_: install nvidia-kernel-dkms |
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| 16:59.40 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions mediatomb |
| 16:59.40 | judd | Package mediatomb on i386 -- lenny: 0.11.0-3; squeeze: 0.12.0~svn2018-6.1; sid: 0.12.1-2; wheezy: 0.12.1-2 |
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| 17:00.15 | norbert_ | nickSwe: probably libmysqlclient-dev |
| 17:00.21 | norbert_ | nickSwe: search for libmysql|grep dev |
| 17:00.46 | nkuttler | would somebody know where there error codes for "[ 207.840196] p54pci: probe of 0000:03:00.0 failed with error -2" are documented? kernel source? |
| 17:00.49 | nickSwe | norbert_, How do I perform that search (sorry I am kind of novice) |
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| 17:01.00 | nkuttler | s/there // |
| 17:01.02 | jhutchins_lt | aptitude install build-deps mediatomb? |
| 17:01.02 | MarKsaitis | what package do I have to reinstall if I want to get back the default apache2 config files? |
| 17:01.05 | MarKsaitis | HELP PLEASE |
| 17:01.06 | MarKsaitis | =) |
| 17:01.11 | norbert_ | berarma: is already installed... ("nvidia-kernel-dkms set to manually installed.") |
| 17:01.17 | berarma | nickSwe: that package is in debian, why don't you use that version? |
| 17:01.21 | jhutchins_lt | !confmiss |
| 17:01.21 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 17:01.41 | nickSwe | berarma, Because I need to compile from source since I have to apply a patch to get srt support for Samsung TVs |
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| 17:02.07 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: What about aptitude install build-deps mediatomb? |
| 17:02.52 | berarma | norbert_: then you should already have nvidia drivers for latest kernels |
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| 17:03.21 | nickSwe | jhutchins_lt, I need to apply a patch before ./configure, to get srt support for Samsung TVs |
| 17:03.41 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: So? How does that affect build-deps? |
| 17:03.55 | norbert_ | berarma: when I rebooted, X didn't start and nvidia-settings is an X app (I think), so I just assumed I had to go back to whatever 2.6.x I found via apt |
| 17:04.07 | jhutchins_lt | berarma: I think he's looking for backport kernels, which often don't have full support. |
| 17:04.28 | berarma | jhutchins_lt: he's in testing |
| 17:04.36 | norbert_ | yep, testing |
| 17:04.45 | jhutchins_lt | berarma: Then he should know that nothing's fully supported in testing. |
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| 17:05.04 | norbert_ | I know that, but Debian stable is always ancient |
| 17:05.04 | scampbell | nkuttler: errno 2 is 'enoent" or essentially.. "not found". |
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| 17:05.14 | norbert_ | I want xfce 4.8 that was released in January |
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| 17:06.05 | mcfrisk | Hello, trying to run rsync from cron jobs but oddly touch is not creating a pid file under /var/run on Debian Squeeze (xen vm). Any ideas what could be wrong? http://pastie.org/2274829 |
| 17:06.06 | berarma | norbert_: you shouldn't mix packages from stable or sid with testing, that's likely to give you problems |
| 17:06.07 | nickSwe | jhutchins_lt, what will happend when I do the aptitude build-deps mediatomb? will it download all dependencies and install them for me, or what is the deal? I've only been using apt-get so far |
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| 17:07.04 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: Perhaps it would be best if you looked at the build-dep section of the aptitude man page - it explains it better than I could. |
| 17:07.46 | scampbell | mcfrisk: what user is running that rsync and do they have rights to create a pid file in /var/run? ( I suspect they do not) |
| 17:07.58 | berarma | nickSwe: you can also try building the debian package and then try to apply your patch |
| 17:08.03 | mcfrisk | scampbell: root |
| 17:08.20 | scampbell | mcfrisk: nicks that thought then doesn't it :) |
| 17:08.44 | nickSwe | jhutchins_lt, Allright thanks! Will try to get the libmysqlclient-dev first, if that does not work then I will look in to aptitude. Thank you |
| 17:08.45 | berarma | nickSwe: this could not work if the patch is not intended for the version in debian though |
| 17:08.59 | mcfrisk | seems to have something to do with backgrounding processes, though. Starting that with & makes it work, it seems. |
| 17:09.06 | nkuttler | ooh, i've still got a 2.6.18 with prism54 installed, let's see if that works |
| 17:09.33 | nickSwe | berarma, I am not really sure of for which version is it suited for. I am just following a guide on a forum trying to get the srt to work for my Samsung TV :) |
| 17:09.46 | norbert_ | 2.6.18, is that from 2006? |
| 17:10.00 | norbert_ | that is like 5 years old |
| 17:10.01 | nkuttler | i guess it's the install kernel. not sure |
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| 17:12.02 | norbert_ | so, if I boot into 2.6.39 instead of this 2.6.32 and I have nvidia-kernel-dkms installed, I should be able to work out the whole 'X not starting' thing? |
| 17:12.35 | norbert_ | not with nvidia-settings because that's an X app, but maybe with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org? |
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| 17:12.49 | nkuttler | depends on why you x doesn't start |
| 17:12.51 | nickSwe | jhutchins_lt, + norbert_,: libmysqlclient-dev worked just fine! :) Thank you both! |
| 17:13.05 | nkuttler | ok, the .18 won't boot anyway.. |
| 17:13.17 | ujjain | How can I see apt-get log? (I want to remove recently added packages) |
| 17:13.26 | scoobertron | norbert_: there is something called (I think) nvidia-xconfig, which is a command line tool for setting up nvidia and X |
| 17:13.29 | nkuttler | oh wth i'll just wait one day until the new hardware arrives and not mess with this.. |
| 17:13.37 | norbert_ | scoobertron: thanks, will try |
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| 17:15.05 | nickSwe | I am trying to find libmp4v2-dev for debian using apt-get, but I just get "E: Unable to locate package libmp4v2-dev". Any ideas on where to find this library? Also, the same goes for "id3lib-dev"... |
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| 17:17.11 | karlpinc_ | ujjain: /var/log/apt* ?? |
| 17:17.44 | mcfrisk | Ok, seems like starting this to background solves this, touch now creates a lock file. When starting this to foreground, suspending and backgrounding, file was not created under /var/run. Don't know why. http://pastie.org/2274829 |
| 17:17.54 | psilikon | Why do I see this : GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'!. Is this a new default? |
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| 17:18.41 | berarma | mcfrisk: use apt-file or apt-cache |
| 17:18.49 | psilikon | fdisk shows me that btw |
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| 17:19.10 | berarma | nickSwe: ^^ |
| 17:20.15 | Arrowmaster | psilikon: is it a large drive? |
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| 17:20.34 | psilikon | Arrowmaster, 2TB |
| 17:20.35 | mcfrisk | actually, this not deb data so apt wont help. Perhaps some other rsync wrapper mirror script would be better, though. |
| 17:20.41 | nickSwe | berarma, what? |
| 17:20.54 | psilikon | I have been struggling trying to setup a software RAID1 |
| 17:20.58 | berarma | nickSwe: sry, I exchanged nicks |
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| 17:21.23 | nickSwe | berarma, no worries... so this was for me? --> use apt-file or apt-cache |
| 17:21.37 | berarma | nickSwe: yes |
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| 17:22.04 | nickSwe | berarma, I use apt-file search foo to search for packages? |
| 17:22.07 | nickSwe | never used that before :) |
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| 17:22.18 | berarma | for files in packages |
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| 17:22.48 | nickSwe | berarma, I do not have apt-file in my system... command not found. Can I do apt-get install apt-file? ;) |
| 17:22.58 | berarma | nickSwe: yes |
| 17:23.13 | nickSwe | berarma, Oh! hehe thanks! |
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| 17:25.06 | berarma | nickSwe: you can try auto-apt too, no experience with it though |
| 17:25.25 | nickSwe | berarma, will read up on that. thank you. |
| 17:26.34 | lamah | deprecated logs |
| 17:26.37 | lamah | i got |
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| 17:31.20 | abrotman | Alam_Squeeze: finally upgraded ? |
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| 17:31.27 | nickSwe | berarma, I cannot locate libmp4v2-dev using either apt-file or apt-cache |
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| 17:32.05 | nickSwe | berarma, the closest I can find is libmp4-info-perl, and that cannot be correct :( |
| 17:32.38 | berarma | nickSwe: apt-file looks for files and that seems a package name, maybe it's not in debian |
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| 17:32.57 | berarma | where have you seen that package referenced? |
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| 17:33.51 | nickSwe | berarma, I am trying to compile "mediatomb" from source. And when I run ./configure I get the summary where it says that libmp4v2 is not enabled. And I wish to get it enabled before I proceed with make install. |
| 17:33.55 | cahoot | nickSwe, not in debian, try debian.multimedia |
| 17:35.01 | norbert_ | X+nvidia works now, with 2.6.39-2-686-pae (Skype chat windows still crash X) |
| 17:35.21 | berarma | nickSwe: if you need it and it's not in debian you might need to build it too |
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| 17:35.31 | nickSwe | cahoot, I actually did find it here: http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-powerpc/package/libmp4v2-dev.php but the problem is that when I try to install the .deb-file it says its not the correct architecture |
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| 17:35.58 | nickSwe | berarma, I see... Ouch... Smells like problems ahead :) |
| 17:36.11 | berarma | norbert_: make sure you have all packages from testing, then you're ready to start testing and filing bugs |
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| 17:48.13 | mtnman | hey disputin are you related to rasputin? |
| 17:48.21 | Anyvie | x) |
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| 17:49.17 | mjt | both are sons of putin i guess. |
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| 17:50.35 | jhutchins_lt | norbert_: Just FYI, skype works fine on stable. |
| 17:50.56 | norbert_ | >< |
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| 17:51.08 | norbert_ | I know that, I just upgraded to testing from stable |
| 17:51.09 | norbert_ | :P |
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| 17:54.31 | jhutchins_lt | norbert_: Testing isn't an upgrade, it's an experiment. |
| 17:54.44 | jonaskoelker | Hi all. Is debfoster not redundant when apt{,itude} has the mark-as-automatically-installed feature? |
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| 17:55.05 | jonaskoelker | ... or are they in some subtle way different? |
| 17:55.54 | norbert_ | yes, an experiment that has xfce 4.8 that has been out since January |
| 17:56.03 | norbert_ | I'm glad to experiment |
| 17:56.17 | norbert_ | I'll just not use Skype for a while, it's not free software anyways |
| 17:56.48 | daemonkeeper | Well, better use it while it is still available :> |
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| 17:57.22 | daemonkeeper | I bet, Skype is on its farewell tour on Linux. |
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| 17:58.18 | norbert_ | no worries http://video.linux.com/video/2127 |
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| 17:59.21 | daemonkeeper | That's just part of the undermine concept |
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| 18:19.14 | Amnesia | question |
| 18:19.25 | Amnesia | I want to use mplayer for embedded avi files in webpages |
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| 18:19.32 | Amnesia | I'm using firefox 5.0 |
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| 18:20.05 | Amnesia | I unpacked the *so files from: http://mirrors.nl.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/m/mplayerplug-in/mozilla-mplayer_3.55-1.1_amd64.deb in my $firefoxdir/plugins/ |
| 18:20.13 | Bushmills | Amnesia: mozplugger has, afaik, a preconfig for embedding mplayer |
| 18:20.26 | Amnesia | the mozplugger? |
| 18:20.58 | Amnesia | Bushmills: so mozilla-mplayer won't work? |
| 18:21.09 | Amnesia | (it is listed @ about:plugins) |
| 18:21.16 | Bushmills | it may work too, but mozplugger is more versatile |
| 18:21.41 | Amnesia | hm ok. |
| 18:23.00 | Amnesia | shitload of dependencies:/ |
| 18:24.09 | Bushmills | aren't you confusing dependencies with suggestions or recommendations? |
| 18:24.59 | burhan | if I have two squeeze installations and I want to - wait for it - squeeze them both together into one installation (basically sync all the debs) is there some tool that does this? |
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| 18:25.06 | Amnesia | The following NEW packages will be installed: dictionaries-common hunspell-en-us iceweasel libhunspell-1.2-0 libmozjs2d libnspr4-0d libnss3-1d libstartup-notification0 libxcb-event1 m4 mozplugger xulrunner-1.9. |
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| 18:27.28 | format_c | When I plug an USB drive it's being mounted automatically. But I want to add the "sync" option. How can I achieve this? |
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| 18:28.05 | Bushmills | format_c: that depends on what mounts your drive automatically |
| 18:28.43 | Bushmills | usbmount has a conf file where you can change mount options in /etc/usbmount |
| 18:29.36 | zykotick9 | Amnesia, when you say firefox 5 are you being literal? I see iceweasel is in the dependencies being installed |
| 18:29.45 | format_c | Bushmills, that's exactly the point which I don't know. I don't have any idea where to look or for what to search for. |
| 18:30.01 | Amnesia | zykotick9: I got firefox from firefox.com not the repos |
| 18:30.11 | zykotick9 | Amnesia, i see. Have fun. |
| 18:30.30 | Amnesia | :) |
| 18:30.50 | Jiyuusenshi | don't use unpackaged software if it's available packaged. it doesn't make sense |
| 18:30.52 | format_c | one mount option states: "uhelper=hal" Maybe this is a hint |
| 18:31.14 | Amnesia | Jiyuusenshi: yes it does |
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| 18:31.16 | format_c | Bushmills, I don't even have a file /etc/usbmount |
| 18:31.26 | jhutchins_lt | Amnesia: Maybe if you cleaned up the non-debian stuff and reinstalled a proper debian setup you'd find it just worked. |
| 18:31.26 | Amnesia | Jiyuusenshi: I don't want an outdated browser |
| 18:31.50 | zykotick9 | Amnesia, see mozilla.debian.net for updated iceweasel packages, just FYI for future. |
| 18:31.52 | Bushmills | format_c: then you don't have usbmount installed, and it's something else mounting your usb drives |
| 18:31.53 | jhutchins_lt | Oh, comeon, you can type more than one character of my nic. |
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| 18:32.10 | jhutchins_lt | Amnesia: Running iceweasel 5.0 here, I think up to 7 is available. |
| 18:32.18 | Amnesia | hmkay didn't knew |
| 18:32.45 | Jiyuusenshi | iceweasel 5 is available through sid |
| 18:33.03 | jhutchins_lt | Amnesia: They hide them over at http://mozilla.debian.net - 5.0 is "release". |
| 18:33.14 | Amnesia | hm thx:) |
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| 18:44.30 | wildc4rd | evenin all |
| 18:44.37 | Anyvie | :) |
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| 18:45.06 | vlt | Hello. On Debian squeeze I installed latest xen hypervisor and dom0 kernel. Every few hours the kernel suddenly looses the SATA drives and nothing can be written anymore. Neither in dom0 nor in any domU. I replaced the server hardware and (just to be sure) 2 hard drives with weird smart logs. Has anyone experienced similar issues? What can I do to prevent these crashes? |
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| 18:48.50 | jhutchins_lt | vlt: You might also ask in #xen |
| 18:48.55 | barf | The local time is totally crazy |
| 18:48.59 | barf | How to fix this? |
| 18:49.20 | barf | I just ran dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 18:51.26 | barf | I now used date --set |
| 18:52.26 | vlt | jhutchins_lt: I'm in ## xen for months now. Nobody knows. I thought I'd ask here whether someone using the same Debian stable setup had similar problems. |
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| 18:53.43 | vlt | Sometimes the server runs for 10 days, sometimes crashes after 3 hours. |
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| 18:55.41 | barf | Which server? |
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| 18:55.47 | epsilon | broken RAM? |
| 18:56.02 | barf | I use vboxheadless for several of my boxes |
| 18:57.00 | vlt | epsilon: I completely replaced the hardware. memtest ran several days w/o errors on the new server before using it. The old one runs for a week now on memtest w/o error. |
| 18:57.02 | barf | debian on the bottom |
| 18:57.23 | barf | debian and others on the top; ubuntu, hackintosh, w2k3, etc |
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| 18:58.44 | vlt | barf: The hardware is pure intel server board and xeon CPUs. |
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| 18:59.09 | vlt | barf: It's even an intel case and PSU. |
| 18:59.44 | format_c | How can I confirm if my usb disk has been mounted/detected as an USB2.0 device which it actually is? |
| 19:01.34 | vlt | format_c: I think you can tell from the driver used. Either uhci, ehci or ohci I think. (Don't know which is which.) |
| 19:02.02 | ajikeshi__ | i think ehci was usb 2.0 |
| 19:02.52 | format_c | ah i see |
| 19:03.02 | format_c | seems to be ehci |
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| 19:03.24 | format_c | but transfer with sync optionfeels slow like 1.1 |
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| 19:04.26 | bisconer | any one here now know to add spellcheck support to quassel in debain?\ |
| 19:04.55 | berarma | I think lsusb shows that information |
| 19:05.44 | kNC | i wish debian had an GUI for people who own VPS's. like they do for transmission-deamon. lol that would rock! |
| 19:05.56 | kNC | is in his fantasy world again |
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| 19:08.11 | jhutchins_lt | kNC: Why would a GUI be specific to a VPS? |
| 19:08.51 | kNC | jhutchins_it, im notsaying it would, but for a noobie like me, it wouldbe alot easier =P |
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| 19:09.36 | jhutchins_lt | kNC: Are you talking about somethng like a web-based control panel for system administration, or just running Gnome System Settings over forwarded X? |
| 19:09.51 | jhutchins_lt | kNC: Or running a full desktop environment then using VNC? |
| 19:10.02 | kNC | jhutchins_lt, cpanel for sys admin web-based |
| 19:10.10 | jhutchins_lt | !free whcp |
| 19:10.11 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig>, <ispCP> Omega and <RavenCore>. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 19:10.30 | kNC | not for web hosting jhutchins, you told me that :) |
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| 19:10.55 | kNC | maybe i am not explaining correctly |
| 19:11.17 | kNC | i use putty to SSH in my VPS - what i am saying is instead of command base, it'd be point and click like you were at a console |
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| 19:11.21 | vlt | kNC: Just install xvnc4server on your VPS and connect to it via VNC (over ssh). |
| 19:11.36 | jhutchins_lt | Since linux configuration is text based anyway, what you end up with is some GUI wrapper that attempts to manage the text config files. You really can't trust them unless you know what's going on underneath anyway. |
| 19:11.56 | kNC | oh |
| 19:12.31 | kNC | no such thing in apt vlt |
| 19:12.55 | jhutchins_lt | It's called a "steep learning curve". To start out, you have to learn a huge amount to do the most trivial things. Once you start to make some progress though, it just gets easier (and you get more powerful). |
| 19:13.08 | kNC | ah i see |
| 19:14.10 | Odaym | it isn't steep.. |
| 19:14.10 | vlt | kNC: Sorry, the server part is called vnc4server (the client is xvnc4viewer) |
| 19:14.12 | jhutchins_lt | kNC: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/ |
| 19:14.34 | jhutchins_lt | vlt: There are probably a dozen alternative VNC packages in Debian. |
| 19:14.46 | jhutchins_lt | vlt: Tight, vnc4, GTK, etc. |
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| 19:15.51 | nickSwe | If I have a debian server running without any X-server (the server has no graphics card, its just a NAS).. Is it possible to access it with remote desktop from e.g. a Ubuntu desktop and browse around on the server, or is SSH the only way to go? |
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| 19:18.07 | vlt | nickSwe: SSH is used to connect. What you usually get is a shell. You can use VNC (directly or through SSH tunnel) to get a desktop. |
| 19:18.37 | vlt | nickSwe: VNC or X forwarding |
| 19:19.11 | nickSwe | vlt, thanks.. so I need to install a VNC server on my debian server, and then a VNC client on my ubuntu? Can you suggest any good apps for this? |
| 19:19.46 | vlt | nickSwe: Very easy to handle: vnc4server and xvnc4viewer |
| 19:20.12 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: You'd have to install a full X-server and desktop environment for that to work. |
| 19:20.31 | vlt | nickSwe: No, no full DE nessessary. |
| 19:20.56 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: VNC is completely unnecessary on a server without X. There's nothing to see. |
| 19:21.28 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: It is possible to install and run X apps over SSH and display the GUI on your local X desktop directly. |
| 19:22.17 | nickSwe | okay... but not possible to logon to my server from my ubuntu desktop and get same/similar access as through the SSH shell? |
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| 19:23.40 | vlt | nickSwe: What would "similar access" look like? |
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| 19:23.48 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: Just use a terminal app. |
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| 19:24.07 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: Give me a specific task you're thinking of. |
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| 19:24.27 | berarma | vnc4server can be used on a system without X |
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| 19:24.43 | nickSwe | jhutchins_lt, I would like to be able to move files using my mouse pointer, install .deb packages etc... like sitting in front of the server. |
| 19:25.02 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: So what you want to do is run a GUI file manager on the server. |
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| 19:25.31 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: Several options: you can use sshfs and mount the remote filesystem, then use the local filemanager. |
| 19:25.57 | aPpYe | I am finding it difficult to google an explanation of what the "standard system utilities" item installs when making a fresh install. I am finding that I do not like having a "mail server" installed when I boot into a minimal system where I only selected "standard system utilities" |
| 19:25.58 | jhutchins_lt | nickSwe: You might be interested in a package called mc similar to the DOS era Midnight Commander/Norton File Manager. |
| 19:26.13 | berarma | jhutchins_lt: he wants to operate on the remote machine, install packages and so on |
| 19:26.15 | zykotick9 | nickSwe, from your Ubuntu client, Place / Connect to Server / select SSH / input your credentials & server address - bingo GUI file manager on your Ubuntu ;) |
| 19:26.33 | nickSwe | zykotick9, will try that immediately |
| 19:26.34 | jhutchins_lt | It's more keyboard than mouse based, but can do a lot of the GUI style magement. |
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| 19:27.19 | aPpYe | so where can I get an explanation of what packages are installed? I do not see "standard system" or anything like that in aptitude's tasks or in tasksel itself. |
| 19:27.47 | nickSwe | zykotick9, that worked like a charm! thanks :) |
| 19:27.50 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: dpkg -l? |
| 19:28.13 | jhutchins_lt | zykotick9: Thanks for the tip, didn't realize it was that well integrated by now. |
| 19:28.18 | jhutchins_lt | zykotick9: That's in Gnome? |
| 19:28.28 | zykotick9 | jhutchins_lt, yes gnome |
| 19:28.37 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, "aptitude search ~pstandard" |
| 19:28.44 | jhutchins_lt | Not quite as easy in KDE4 on squeeze. |
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| 19:29.11 | aPpYe | jhutchins, I am not sure what the output of this means ... |
| 19:29.16 | nickSwe | zykotick9, what if I wish to perform things as root... I cannot login through ssh with my root account, so normally I do the "su" command in the shell... what about now using gnome? |
| 19:29.45 | aPpYe | zykotick9, this will give me what would have been installed if I had chosen the item during the install? |
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| 19:29.56 | zykotick9 | nickSwe, oh god. Don't. --- I'm really not sure, sorry. |
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| 19:30.28 | nickSwe | zykotick9, okay thanks anyways :) i assume I have to use the shell for that until I find time to google it deeper... Thanks! |
| 19:30.29 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, I believe so yes, there does seem to be a slight variation on my system 114 packages from cd, 111 from above method. |
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| 19:31.08 | berarma | nickSwe: I think you're looking for vnc4server or X11 forwarding, try searching for these |
| 19:31.25 | nickSwe | berarma, okay thanks... will do so! |
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| 19:31.30 | zykotick9 | berarma, won't do anything if Xorg isn't installed. nickSwe |
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| 19:32.13 | gypsion | where's thunderbird? i don't want to use iceape. |
| 19:32.25 | zykotick9 | gypsion, icedove |
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| 19:33.25 | aPpYe | zykotick9, hmm. none of this stuff seems too crucial... I think I will leave it out and let them be installed as dependencies if they are needed. I guess I would want less, maybe dnsutils ... |
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| 19:33.43 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, bash-completion is really handy |
| 19:34.37 | aPpYe | zykotick9, I was just wondering about that ... I am still able to complete paths using tab, yet bash-completion is not installed. What is it for then? |
| 19:34.56 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, try "aptitude ins<TAB>" with b-c it will work |
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| 19:35.18 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, it's the "extra" tab completion stuff |
| 19:35.54 | aPpYe | zykotick9, hmm. it did not work. |
| 19:36.17 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, try "aptitude ins<TAB>" WITH b-c it will work |
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| 19:36.26 | AcTiVaTe | after installing you need to relog or source the bash-completion script to have it activated |
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| 19:36.58 | zykotick9 | AcTiVaTe, true, but you first need the bash-completion package |
| 19:37.24 | aPpYe | hm.... still did not work... I rebooted. |
| 19:37.54 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, how are you becoming root? if you use "su" it might fail, but "su -" should work. |
| 19:38.00 | nickSwe | Does anyone know what the meaning of this is: ../src/metadata/libmp4v2_handler.cc:77: error: âMP4GetMetadataNameâ was not declared in this scope I get this error while trying to "make" mediatomb from source. |
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| 19:38.26 | aPpYe | zykotick9, well I chose not to allow root login during the install. I become root with sudo su |
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| 19:38.49 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, i see... |
| 19:39.12 | aPpYe | zykotick9, hmm... yeah it works as a regular user but not when I sudo su |
| 19:39.37 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, i don't even want to say, cause it feels so wrong -- but try "sudo su -" |
| 19:40.19 | aPpYe | zykotick9, lol I don't think that will work |
| 19:40.31 | jhutchins | aPpYe: Why would you use sudo su instead of just su - ? |
| 19:40.34 | aPpYe | sudo aptitude ins<TAB> works though |
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| 19:41.02 | aPpYe | jhutchins, well, because there is no root password. root logins are disallowed. |
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| 19:41.27 | zykotick9 | jhutchins, ubuntu comes to debian ;) |
| 19:41.34 | aPpYe | I figured it would be a little more secure? |
| 19:41.34 | intgr | DebConf video streams SNAFU? |
| 19:41.47 | aPpYe | I haven't used ubuntu for years. |
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| 19:41.55 | aPpYe | actually coming over from archlinux |
| 19:42.03 | zykotick9 | aPpYe, just the sudo think, not you. |
| 19:42.13 | jhutchins | aPpYe: You're not running Debian, are you? |
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| 19:42.28 | zykotick9 | s/think/thing/ |
| 19:42.41 | zykotick9 | "think" works too ;) |
| 19:42.55 | aPpYe | jhutchins, I am running it in a VM for now to get more familiar with it and to reaquaint(sp?) myself with apt |
| 19:43.12 | aPpYe | but yes, my host is archlinux atm. |
| 19:43.37 | aPpYe | I am thinking I am going to switch over though. debian seems more "automatic" ... |
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| 19:44.13 | aPpYe | things like when I install openssh, it is already running and automatically runs at boot. No editing rc.conf or having to manually start the daemon |
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| 19:45.39 | aPpYe | and actually the real experiment here for me is to use linux mint's testing repo's instead of regular testing. I find them a nice compromize for a sort of rolling release system. |
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| 19:46.11 | aPpYe | they freeze testing every month and release the previous month ... or something like that. |
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| 19:47.51 | aPpYe | basically, here is what I am going to use: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1781 ... but I am building the system myself using debian, as I am not a huge fan of some of their bloatware. |
| 19:48.26 | jhutchins | aPpYe: This channel is for support of Debian Stable, not testing or other Distributions. |
| 19:49.32 | aPpYe | jhutchins, I know ... I diverged from my original question, but you answered it for me. aptitude search ~pstandard |
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| 19:49.37 | aPpYe | worked like a charm. |
| 19:50.39 | abrotman | jhutchins: that's not really true |
| 19:50.43 | abrotman | well, not true at all |
| 19:50.56 | abrotman | however, other distros are offtopic |
| 19:51.21 | barf | What is the solution when the time is wrong? dovecot tells me that it commits suicide when I change the time using date --set |
| 19:51.35 | kNC | thank you both vlt jhujhiti |
| 19:51.39 | fiae | I'm using skype 2.2 on debin 6 KDE based; My camera is working fine but when I start Video chat they can see me but I can't see them as I see a white area in place of their video. I tried to login to twm and it works fine. I guess something with compiz. this happens after installing cairo-dock |
| 19:51.41 | jhutchins | points to the "| wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) |" part of the topic. People typically help out here when they can though. |
| 19:51.42 | abrotman | !tell barf about set the time |
| 19:52.01 | abrotman | jhutchins: suggested .. not required .. wheezy/sid can be supported here |
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| 19:52.40 | aPpYe | anyway, thanks for the help! what is ~pstandard anyway? how would I find out the packages to be installed with another tasksel task? I cannot search for things like ~p for example. |
| 19:52.45 | jhutchins | abrotman: Ok, won't say it again then. |
| 19:52.47 | aPpYe | this is part of aptitude? |
| 19:53.22 | abrotman | aPpYe: see the aptitude manual .. there are many short-hand search terms |
| 19:53.26 | fiae | Any help/ |
| 19:54.01 | abrotman | who bought skype again? |
| 19:54.02 | fiae | :) |
| 19:54.05 | barf | abrotman: I used tzconfig, is that enough for the other pat? |
| 19:54.11 | jhutchins | fiae: That sounds like a problem within skype. Maybe you can figure out the internal setup? |
| 19:54.15 | abrotman | barf: read the factoid |
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| 19:54.34 | aPpYe | abrotman, okay, thanks. |
| 19:54.36 | aPpYe | whoa ... |
| 19:54.46 | barf | apt-get install ntp gave me ntpd |
| 19:54.53 | abrotman | and? |
| 19:55.04 | jhutchins | barf: That's a good way to keep your clock on time. |
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| 19:55.13 | fiae | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.16 | aPpYe | man pages are not working with arrow keys ... they are scrolling by page with s and f? |
| 19:55.25 | abrotman | i didn't say man page ... |
| 19:55.29 | aPpYe | how do I get rid of this? I feels like vi |
| 19:55.32 | aPpYe | yuck. |
| 19:55.37 | aPpYe | ah. |
| 19:55.38 | barf | reboot did not set the time correctly, timezone is correct however CEST |
| 19:55.40 | aPpYe | less is not installed. |
| 19:55.42 | aPpYe | probably. |
| 19:55.46 | abrotman | aPpYe: lay off your damn enter key |
| 19:55.55 | aPpYe | sorry. |
| 19:56.52 | barf | Do I need to make a script to query ntp at boot? |
| 19:56.54 | aPpYe | abrotman, gotcha full manual. |
| 19:57.13 | jhutchins | barf: Time-sensitive apps can have serious problems if the time changes drastically. You could try setting the hardware clock in rescue mode, then rebooting. |
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| 19:57.33 | abrotman | barf: nope |
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| 19:58.49 | barf | dovecot has a hard time if I try to use date --set |
| 19:58.57 | jhutchins | barf: zless /usr/share/doc/ntp/README.Debian.gz might be of interest. |
| 19:59.08 | jhutchins | barf: Right, shut it down, set the time, restart it. |
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| 20:00.33 | barf | Itâs running in vbox |
| 20:00.54 | jhutchins | barf: Expect ongoing problems then. |
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| 20:02.45 | fiae | I'm using skype 2.2 on debin 6 KDE based; My camera is working fine but when I start Video chat they can see me but I can't see them as I see a white area in place of their video. I tried to login to twm and it works fine. I guess something with compiz. this happens after installing cairo-dock!!!! Any help please???? |
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| 20:03.20 | Slasher` | fiae; have you tried disabling compiz? |
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| 20:05.25 | aPpYe | abrotman, jhutchins, zykotick9, ... thanks for the insight! |
| 20:05.51 | abrotman | "lay off the enter key" is insight? |
| 20:06.06 | aPpYe | abrotman, you scared me. |
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| 20:08.48 | fiae | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.22 | Slasher` | fiae; not sure what else to suggest then, sorry |
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| 20:11.15 | Mmike | How do I change default locale on a |
| 20:11.17 | Mmike | blah, ignore |
| 20:11.22 | Anyvie | XD |
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| 20:14.04 | fiae | I'm using skype 2.2 on debin 6 KDE based; My camera is working fine but when I start Video chat they can see me but I can't see them as I see a white area in place of their video. I tried to login to twm and it works fine. I guess something with compiz. this happens after installing cairo-dock!!!! Any help please???? |
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| 20:15.13 | krakrjak | fiae: sounds like the kwin compositer is giving you hell. Try turning off Desktop Effects ctrl+F12 or under system settings->desktop effects |
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| 20:16.56 | fiae | krakrjak: not kwin but compiz |
| 20:17.01 | fiae | with kde |
| 20:17.27 | abrotman | so don't use compiz |
| 20:17.35 | bahamas | hello. i'm trying to install debian from a usb stick, but i get a message saying that no installable kernel was found. should i abort this? |
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| 20:20.42 | phogg | bloody aptitude |
| 20:20.52 | abrotman | ? |
| 20:20.53 | phogg | trying to remove as a solution in preference to simply upgrading |
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| 20:21.47 | phogg | suggests I remove libasound2-dev to resolve some depends. I keep saying n, never suggests "upgrade libasound2-dev". I q and tell it to also install libasound2-dev... bingo, it works! |
| 20:21.50 | phogg | this happens all the time |
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| 20:27.00 | bahamas | what could be the cause for the missing kernel? i followed the instructions presented here http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne |
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| 20:29.36 | abrotman | bahamas: oh, i don't think those are valid anymore |
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| 20:30.40 | bahamas | great |
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| 20:31.12 | fiae | I'm using skype 2.2 on debin 6 KDE based; My camera is working fine but when I start Video chat they can see me but I can't see them as I see a white area in place of their video. I tried to login to twm and it works fine. I guess something with compiz. this happens after installing cairo-dock |
| 20:31.27 | abrotman | bahamas: the standard instructions may be enough |
| 20:31.37 | abrotman | thought skype was dead? |
| 20:31.42 | bahamas | abrotman: any alternatives? btw, i don't actually have an acer, but i assumed the setup is the same for all notebooks |
| 20:32.01 | abrotman | bahamas: do you have a linux box to prepare the USB drive? |
| 20:32.20 | bahamas | abrotman: yes, i'm on ubuntu right now |
| 20:32.27 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 20:32.27 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
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| 20:32.37 | abrotman | see the first link .. the debian.org link |
| 20:32.54 | abrotman | i believe you just dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdX |
| 20:33.08 | krakrjak | fiae: I think the same rules apply though. Compiz compositer is blowing up on you. |
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| 20:33.49 | krakrjak | abrotman: facebook just integrated it so it's not dead, just dying like facebook. |
| 20:34.08 | bahamas | abrotman: i noticed that there are a lot of cds. it's enough to just use the first one, right? |
| 20:34.19 | abrotman | netinst is enough |
| 20:34.26 | abrotman | krakrjak: where is facebook going ? |
| 20:34.30 | krakrjak | abrotman: skype will be the BSD of video conferencing soon enough. |
| 20:34.46 | oz123_ | well, how many problems can i have in one day with bridged networking ? i can ping a website, but i can't browse it :-( |
| 20:34.49 | bahamas | abrotman: ah, i already have that. great |
| 20:34.57 | krakrjak | abrotman: not necessarily away (see MySpace). Although, see MySpace. |
| 20:35.32 | Lasers | Or see AOL. |
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| 20:35.52 | abrotman | krakrjak: i knew they'd been bought .. MS bought skype 2.5 months ago |
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| 20:37.21 | gypsion | what's the package name for Windows fonts? |
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| 20:37.29 | abrotman | what? |
| 20:37.35 | abrotman | msftcorefonts maybe? |
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| 20:38.06 | streuner_ | judd, versions ttf-mscorefonts-installer |
| 20:38.06 | judd | Package ttf-mscorefonts-installer on i386 -- lenny/contrib: 2.7; sid/contrib: 3.3; squeeze/contrib: 3.3; wheezy/contrib: 3.3 |
| 20:38.08 | abrotman | not even sure those still exist |
| 20:38.11 | abrotman | there you go! |
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| 20:41.15 | gypsion | they ran out of sources??? i don't see it in apt. |
| 20:41.37 | zykotick9 | gypsion, you'd need contrib to see it |
| 20:41.45 | gypsion | okay. |
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| 20:44.31 | Lasers | So I want to try KDE on Debian. I installed it on VM and get this -- http://i.imgur.com/IBLBc.png -- Suggestions? |
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| 20:45.30 | fiae | I'm using skype 2.2 on debin 6 KDE based; My camera is working fine but when I start Video chat they can see me but I can't see them as I see a white area in place of their video. I tried to login to twm and it works fine. I guess something with compiz. this happens after installing cairo-dock |
| 20:46.03 | gypsion | how do i enable contrib using aptitude. i was used to dselect. |
| 20:46.15 | abrotman | maybe you shouldn't use compiz ? |
| 20:46.20 | abrotman | gypsion: really? |
| 20:46.25 | abrotman | !tell gypsion about contrib |
| 20:46.25 | streuner_ | gypsion: /msg dpkg contrib |
| 20:47.32 | streuner_ | someone who uses dselect and dont know how to use contrib, strange. |
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| 20:57.12 | bahamas | abrotman: i did that and i got 'isobin linux missing or corrupt' or something like that |
| 20:57.26 | abrotman | uh what? |
| 20:57.43 | abrotman | bahamas: sorry, it's cat, not dd |
| 20:57.50 | abrotman | cat foo.iso > /dev/sdX |
| 20:58.11 | krakrjak | you can use dd, dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sdX |
| 20:58.18 | bahamas | i just did |
| 20:58.21 | krakrjak | boo |
| 20:58.43 | bahamas | waited like half an hour too, because this pc is slow as hell |
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| 20:59.31 | Seth_Hikaru | I was wondering if it's possible to set up a vpn server on a box that only has an external ip? |
| 21:00.06 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: not really unless you have vlan interfaces for internal traffic. |
| 21:00.10 | epsilon | why not? |
| 21:00.23 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: Is there a way to make one of those? |
| 21:00.36 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: if your vpn server is the only thing you need to access then you are done. |
| 21:00.43 | epsilon | just use nat, no vlan quired |
| 21:00.50 | Seth_Hikaru | I can't. |
| 21:00.59 | epsilon | vpn has own interface |
| 21:01.04 | Seth_Hikaru | The box only has one external ip. |
| 21:01.07 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: if you are trying to make an internal network available on your public IP via VPN then OpenVPN does this in its sleep. |
| 21:01.21 | epsilon | yes, you NAT on externat IP |
| 21:01.30 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm not fond of openvpn. |
| 21:01.32 | krakrjak | you only need one external IP, but you need an internal interface as well to give to the VPN clients for access. |
| 21:01.32 | epsilon | all vpn clients get LAN IP |
| 21:01.33 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm using pptpd |
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| 21:01.38 | krakrjak | not a fan? |
| 21:01.47 | Seth_Hikaru | I don't like openvpn. |
| 21:01.51 | krakrjak | you can use pptp connections with openvpn |
| 21:02.01 | Seth_Hikaru | Oh. |
| 21:02.03 | Seth_Hikaru | Herp. |
| 21:02.04 | Seth_Hikaru | Derp. |
| 21:02.22 | Seth_Hikaru | I don't like using openvpn as a protocol. |
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| 21:02.40 | Seth_Hikaru | That's what I meant. |
| 21:02.41 | krakrjak | not sure I follow and feel free to make your point. |
| 21:02.46 | fiae | I'm using skype 2.2 on debin 6 KDE based; My camera is working fine but when I start Video chat they can see me but I can't see them as I see a white area in place of their video. I tried to login to twm and it works fine. I guess something with compiz. this happens after installing cairo-dock |
| 21:02.52 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: I'm good. |
| 21:02.56 | Seth_Hikaru | Anyway. |
| 21:03.03 | Seth_Hikaru | apt-get install openvpn -y ? |
| 21:03.14 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: so if you have two interfaces and one external IP you can do this with either pptpd or openvpn. |
| 21:03.39 | Seth_Hikaru | I only have the external ip interface. |
| 21:03.45 | Seth_Hikaru | How can I set up a vlan? |
| 21:03.50 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: and a bit of reading. |
| 21:03.55 | Seth_Hikaru | good point. |
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| 21:04.08 | Seth_Hikaru | I guess I'm not that stupid. |
| 21:04.13 | Seth_Hikaru | I'll come back if I need help. |
| 21:04.23 | Seth_Hikaru | Thanks krakrjak. |
| 21:04.27 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: if the only interface is the public interface how does it communicate with your lan? Are you trying to just have access to that one system? |
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| 21:04.50 | Seth_Hikaru | Ok.. um. |
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| 21:04.53 | Seth_Hikaru | Let me think |
| 21:05.04 | Seth_Hikaru | the public interface connects to the net. |
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| 21:05.15 | krakrjak | uh huh.. And... |
| 21:05.16 | Seth_Hikaru | I want a vlan interface so I can issue internal ips for vpn. |
| 21:05.24 | Seth_Hikaru | clients* |
| 21:05.33 | fiae | I'm using skype 2.2 on debin 6 KDE based; My camera is working fine but when I start Video chat they can see me but I can't see them as I see a white area in place of their video. I tried to login to twm and it works fine. I guess something with compiz. this happens after installing cairo-dock |
| 21:05.39 | krakrjak | So your clients will only be able to access that one machine, but then also each other through the VPN? |
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| 21:06.09 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: It's going to have ip forwarding if that helps. |
| 21:06.23 | Seth_Hikaru | client to client really doesn't matter. |
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| 21:06.49 | krakrjak | So client->server and client->client, but not client->server->LAN |
| 21:07.16 | Seth_Hikaru | The last would be useful for a work environment, correct? |
| 21:07.20 | krakrjak | If you only have a public interface you'll need cooperation from your upstream network provider to have vlan type interfaces. |
| 21:07.23 | krakrjak | Yes |
| 21:07.26 | krakrjak | but it requires two interfaces |
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| 21:07.28 | Seth_Hikaru | Ignore that last one. |
| 21:07.41 | krakrjak | So just client->server |
| 21:07.46 | Seth_Hikaru | pretty much. |
| 21:07.54 | krakrjak | VPN is the wrong solution. |
| 21:08.00 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay. |
| 21:08.06 | krakrjak | what are you trying to do? |
| 21:08.12 | Seth_Hikaru | You know online vpn services that mask your ip for security? |
| 21:08.18 | Seth_Hikaru | That's what I want to do. |
| 21:08.31 | krakrjak | So like a TOR node for all your traffice to anonymize yourself? |
| 21:08.41 | abrotman | 'anonymize' .. |
| 21:08.44 | Seth_Hikaru | tor is different. |
| 21:08.53 | krakrjak | make more anonymous? |
| 21:08.54 | Seth_Hikaru | but in a sense yes. |
| 21:09.05 | bahamas | abrotman: should i delete everything from the stick before using cat because i got the same error again? |
| 21:09.21 | krakrjak | hrm... I don't think the VPN buys you much as the enpoint is still obvious. |
| 21:09.28 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay. |
| 21:09.45 | Seth_Hikaru | Um. |
| 21:09.50 | Seth_Hikaru | ponders |
| 21:09.58 | krakrjak | searches google. |
| 21:10.07 | abrotman | bahamas: it will all be deleted regardless .. |
| 21:10.42 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: The image here is what I want but ignore the other services. |
| 21:10.48 | Seth_Hikaru | http://pigtail.net/nicholas/pptp/ |
| 21:10.53 | Seth_Hikaru | Just the center server. |
| 21:11.08 | Seth_Hikaru | That's the type I want to set up. |
| 21:11.17 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: might want to read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2P |
| 21:11.28 | Seth_Hikaru | i know about i2p. |
| 21:11.29 | Seth_Hikaru | No. |
| 21:11.53 | Seth_Hikaru | I pretty much co-own the ds this vps runs on. |
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| 21:12.15 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm not worried about anonymity. |
| 21:13.00 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: okay I think I see a way forward and you can use openvpn or pptpd |
| 21:13.15 | Seth_Hikaru | I mostly have pptpd set up atm. |
| 21:13.22 | Seth_Hikaru | But I would need a vlan interface. |
| 21:13.28 | Seth_Hikaru | For the internal ips to issue. |
| 21:13.29 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: try creating another lo device |
| 21:13.43 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: with an IP on the range you want to use for VPN clients. |
| 21:13.44 | smhar | I plan to rebuild my debian system, and planning to have a separate partition for /var/cache/apt which is currently less than 1GB, how big should I make it for a Debian Testing ? |
| 21:13.52 | bahamas | anyone else have any idea regarding this issue? i wrote the iso to my device, but i still get 'isolinux.bin corrupted' or something |
| 21:13.53 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: How would I do that? |
| 21:14.24 | bahamas | one thing i notice is that isolinux.bin is not in the root of my device, but in an isolinux directory |
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| 21:14.34 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: edit /etc/network/interfaces and add a stanza for another lo interface. |
| 21:14.54 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay. |
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| 21:15.45 | Seth_Hikaru | auto venet0:0 is the only one in there. |
| 21:15.55 | Seth_Hikaru | So would I go auto venet1:0 ? |
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| 21:17.08 | Seth_Hikaru | wait. |
| 21:17.10 | Seth_Hikaru | I got it. |
| 21:17.16 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: !!! share !!! |
| 21:17.40 | Seth_Hikaru | Just kinda follow how they set this up. |
| 21:17.41 | Seth_Hikaru | http://www.microhowto.info/howto/configure_an_ethernet_interface_as_a_vlan_trunk_on_debian.html |
| 21:18.08 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm not installing the vlan, just how they set up the lo interface names. |
| 21:18.12 | Seth_Hikaru | or numbers. |
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| 21:18.46 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: Yeah that's great! so the special form of lo.1 <blah> should do it right? |
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| 21:19.23 | Seth_Hikaru | I set mine up as venet0:1 |
| 21:19.28 | bahamas | anyone? |
| 21:19.34 | Seth_Hikaru | seeing as my main one is venet0:0 |
| 21:19.48 | krakrjak | bahamas: that's normal. |
| 21:20.01 | krakrjak | bahamas: do you not have isolinux installed? |
| 21:20.35 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: so you're good now? Can you connect? |
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| 21:20.55 | Seth_Hikaru | Im not sure I need to run through the pptpd config files and see if I need to change anything. |
| 21:20.58 | smhar | does the install CD support ext4? |
| 21:21.11 | krakrjak | bahamas: can you catch me up. Last thing I remember is you trying to dd or cat the .bin file to a device. What's up? |
| 21:21.46 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: ok. Good luck! I still have no idea what you are up to, but it sounds like you'll figure it out pretty quickly. |
| 21:22.04 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: Did you wanna test it after I set it up? |
| 21:22.18 | bahamas | krakrjak: basically, i'm trying to install debian from a usb stick |
| 21:22.22 | Seth_Hikaru | I'll punch in a quick test user in there. |
| 21:22.22 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: I wish I could. Maybe later, I'm still at work. |
| 21:22.26 | Seth_Hikaru | Ah. |
| 21:22.28 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay. |
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| 21:22.35 | Seth_Hikaru | I can always test it myself. |
| 21:22.55 | krakrjak | bahamas: okay... So you are trying to get the USB key prepped for installation? |
| 21:23.07 | bahamas | krakrjak: then i got the advice to try what it says here http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 |
| 21:23.12 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: if I'm not idle later hit me up. |
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| 21:23.18 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay. |
| 21:23.22 | bahamas | which basically tells me to do cat iso > device |
| 21:23.27 | Seth_Hikaru | I'll try and make sure this is set up right. |
| 21:23.47 | bahamas | krakrjak: the iso in my case is debian-6.0.2.1-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 21:24.23 | bahamas | after writing that iso to my device with cat, i get isolinux.bin missing or corrupted when trying to boot from the device |
| 21:25.30 | kNC | vlt: ./vnc4config: unable to open display "" - Can ya help how to set it up |
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| 21:26.49 | krakrjak | bahamas: hrm... I saw an issue like this in kfreebsd land last week hang on. |
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| 21:29.20 | krakrjak | bahamas: I don't think this is your issue, but maybe. Can you try with the mini.iso |
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| 21:30.35 | zykotick9 | bahamas, <UNSUPPORTED SUGGESTION FOLLOWS> try Unetbootin to create the USB instead |
| 21:30.44 | bahamas | krakrjak: is that the businesscard one or a different one? |
| 21:30.52 | krakrjak | bahamas: you really should be able to do it the way you are doing it. |
| 21:30.55 | dirtycookie | hi people, i wanted to know if there is something like apt-proxy but for all the windows updates |
| 21:31.04 | krakrjak | bahamas: yes the businesscard one. |
| 21:31.07 | dirtycookie | as a debian server |
| 21:31.28 | krakrjak | bahamas: and I echo zykotick9 if cat just won't do try a new tool. |
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| 21:34.39 | krakrjak | bahamas: so the unetbootbin method is aptitude install unetbootbin, followed by unetbootin method=diskimage isofile="/path/to/netinst.iso" |
| 21:35.33 | zykotick9 | bahamas, Unetbootin also has a GUI |
| 21:35.39 | mrtnt1 | I have a blank CD-R media in a remote machine. Is it possible to check, what is exact the capacity of this blank CD-R disk? I tried with "wodim dev=/dev/scd0 -dummy -doa -v file.txt", but I could not read out, what's the exact size of the CD-R disk. Any ideas? |
| 21:36.31 | zykotick9 | krakrjak, thanks, i wasn't aware there was a CLI option |
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| 21:39.47 | bahamas | krakrjak: zykotick9 businesscard didn't work. trying unetbootin with the gui |
| 21:40.44 | bahamas | hm, i got an error about the device being out of space. i thought it would do the formatting itself |
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| 21:41.44 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: Still having problems. |
| 21:42.15 | Seth_Hikaru | It needs a venet device but I'm not sure if it can pick one to issue ips to. |
| 21:42.56 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: it's the device naming you can't have alias IP addresses in different subnets. The : in the interface specification means alias. Try with a . (dot) instead. |
| 21:43.18 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: keep the original vnet device, but change the other over to vnetdev0.1 |
| 21:43.42 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay. |
| 21:43.43 | krakrjak | bahamas: yeah you probably need to just blank the partition table and start over with that stick. |
| 21:43.56 | bahamas | krakrjak: how do i do that? |
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| 21:44.25 | zykotick9 | bahamas, fyi, unetbootin requires you to format the stick vfat (which would clean the stick for you) |
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| 21:44.43 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: It still want that venet0:1 it has to be in that format. |
| 21:44.53 | Shendelzare | hello |
| 21:45.00 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm not sure how I can get this to work. |
| 21:45.03 | Seth_Hikaru | vlan is useless for me. |
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| 21:45.08 | antivirtel | hi! I want to use mc with SMB on lenny. I know, that it disabled. I downloaded the deb-src, I recently built it, but it had no samba. I want to send '--with-samba' option to `make`, but I'm using `dpkg-buildpackage`. May I set environment variable (maybe CFLAGS) to "--with-samba"? Will it work? |
| 21:45.16 | Shendelzare | i just made $sudo rm -rf ./* |
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| 21:45.20 | Shendelzare | without dot |
| 21:45.33 | Shendelzare | Looking for some empathy :( |
| 21:45.52 | bahamas | zykotick9: any tips on how i can do that? |
| 21:46.36 | Arrowmaster | can anybody name a good epub reader in debian? |
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| 21:47.53 | zykotick9 | bahamas, mkfs.vfat |
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| 21:48.47 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: Would I be able to set up nat in the iptables? |
| 21:48.55 | Seth_Hikaru | Would that do it instead? |
| 21:48.58 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: sure for one interface... For the "internal network" interface it needs to be something else. You'll have venet0:1 and maybe a venet0.1, but I'd just use lo.2 |
| 21:49.10 | bahamas | zykotick9: yes, found it. thanks |
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| 21:50.07 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: you HAVE to set up nat for the VPN to work if you want your clients to be able to access the internet |
| 21:50.17 | Seth_Hikaru | I know. |
| 21:50.20 | Seth_Hikaru | That's my problem. |
| 21:50.32 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm trying to do that. |
| 21:50.35 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: ... I think I'm lost again. |
| 21:50.42 | Seth_Hikaru | pfff. |
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| 21:50.46 | Seth_Hikaru | You think you're lost. |
| 21:50.50 | krakrjak | :) |
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| 21:50.58 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm the one who's doing this and 10 times lost then you are. |
| 21:51.01 | Shendelzare | c'mon people |
| 21:51.09 | Shendelzare | i just rm -rf'ed my server |
| 21:51.11 | krakrjak | let's start from the beginning. Can you pastebin the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 21:51.14 | Seth_Hikaru | Oh btw if I set something in iptables is there a way I can remove it? |
| 21:51.20 | Seth_Hikaru | Shendelzare: Nice one. |
| 21:51.31 | Shendelzare | Seth_Hikaru, rm -rf ./* |
| 21:51.37 | Shendelzare | without dot :) |
| 21:51.44 | Shendelzare | what was so cool :\ |
| 21:51.49 | Seth_Hikaru | I bet you were having fun. |
| 21:51.56 | Seth_Hikaru | That box won't even turn on anymore. |
| 21:52.03 | Lasers | Hi Debbies, why is Debian broke? :3 |
| 21:52.05 | Shendelzare | Seth_Hikaru, i haven't backed up last two sites :D |
| 21:52.10 | Seth_Hikaru | Yay. |
| 21:52.16 | Seth_Hikaru | Like I said have fun. |
| 21:52.25 | streuner_ | Lasers: troll somewhere else |
| 21:52.43 | Lasers | Tried to install Debain + KDE on VM. Now the filesystem is read-only. :\ |
| 21:52.52 | Shendelzare | Seth_Hikaru, I still hope support will help me plug virtual drive to another virtual machine :D |
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| 21:53.07 | krakrjak | Shendelzare: it will too turn on. It might even boot... Was /boot mounted? |
| 21:53.13 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: I'm going to try something first. |
| 21:53.35 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: go for it! |
| 21:53.36 | Shendelzare | krakrjak, no physical device :\ Virtual machine in xen cloud :) |
| 21:53.43 | krakrjak | nm |
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| 21:54.33 | antivirtel | hi! I want to use mc with SMB. I know, that it disabled. I downloaded the deb-src, I recently built it, but it had no samba. I want to send '--with-samba' option to `make`, but I'm using `dpkg-buildpackage`. May I set environment variable (maybe CFLAGS) to "--with-samba"? Will it work? |
| 21:54.36 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: That didn't work. |
| 21:54.43 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: How can I edit the iptable? |
| 21:54.53 | Seth_Hikaru | Where's it located. |
| 21:55.05 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: many ways. You need a rule in another table? |
| 21:55.09 | Seth_Hikaru | No. |
| 21:55.15 | Seth_Hikaru | I just need to remove something I put in there. |
| 21:55.46 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: iptables -t <table> -D # |
| 21:56.01 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: or iptables -t INPUT -D 9 |
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| 21:57.00 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm not even sure what number it's listed under. |
| 21:57.01 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: you can get the rule number easily by running iptables -t INPUT -L --line-numbers |
| 21:57.07 | Seth_Hikaru | ah. |
| 21:57.37 | Seth_Hikaru | ouch |
| 21:58.18 | Seth_Hikaru | http://pastebin.com/pdMmpyw0 |
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| 21:59.08 | krakrjak | uhm.... |
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| 21:59.23 | krakrjak | modprobe ip_tables |
| 21:59.34 | krakrjak | maybe install it? |
| 22:00.37 | Seth_Hikaru | So what happened when I did this? iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.1 -j SNAT --to 64.31.30.21 |
| 22:00.47 | Seth_Hikaru | It didn't say anything. |
| 22:01.15 | Shendelzare | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.22 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay. |
| 22:01.26 | Shendelzare | Source Network adress tranlastion |
| 22:01.28 | Seth_Hikaru | How do I undo that? |
| 22:01.33 | Shendelzare | from -s(ource) 192.168.0.1 |
| 22:01.46 | Shendelzare | Seth_Hikaru iptables -t nat -D |
| 22:01.52 | Shendelzare | i think so |
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| 22:02.26 | Seth_Hikaru | -D requires an aregument. |
| 22:02.32 | Seth_Hikaru | argument* |
| 22:02.37 | bahamas | zykotick9: krakrjak unetbootin did it. thanks |
| 22:02.41 | sudokill | custom kernel? |
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| 22:07.09 | FDFlock | Hello guys, are there any actually decent guides for Debian networking? I'm interested in "Internet sharing" (iptables NAT) of a PPPoE connection on a bridged ethernet+wifi network (including how bridging can be achieved, with WPA2 enabled). |
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| 22:07.18 | chowder | hello all. I'm interested in installing Debian testing. Does the install CD support WPA2? I tried to do a netinstall and found that I couldn't connect to a WPA2 access point. |
| 22:07.24 | FDFlock | What I'm actually trying to do is replicate the full functionality of a standard wireless ADSL/cable modem/router, but my networking-fu is insufficient. |
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| 22:09.44 | FDFlock | chowder: no idea regarding WPA, but is your wireless NIC supported? You might need something like this: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 22:10.24 | Seth_Hikaru | krakrjak: I think that's enough for tonight. I'm giving up for now. I have other business to attend to. |
| 22:10.30 | gkwhc | Hi, i am new to debian. how can I diagnose why apt-get install <package> hangs when downloading packages? |
| 22:10.32 | bahamas | how can i shut down my debian machine? i don't have neither shutdown nor poweroff |
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| 22:10.53 | chowder | FDFlock, iirc, I did need some non-free firmware for my wireless card |
| 22:11.02 | gkwhc | bahamas: try sudo shutdown or sudo poweroff |
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| 22:11.22 | FDFlock | bahamas: try "halt" (although it's calling poweroff internally, AFAIK) |
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| 22:11.39 | bahamas | gkwhc: sudo not found. i used a netinstall.iso, if that's relevant |
| 22:11.44 | chowder | bahamas, you should modify your /etc/sudoers so that you, as a user, can shutdown your machine normally |
| 22:12.00 | chowder | bahamas, apt-get install sudo |
| 22:12.05 | gkwhc | can i actually diagnose why apt-get install hangs while downloading packages? |
| 22:12.12 | kNC | vlt: Ya there? |
| 22:12.14 | FDFlock | chowder: "sudo halt" should work without modifying sudoers |
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| 22:12.30 | ompaul | gkwhc: usually it tells you |
| 22:12.37 | chowder | FDFlock, of course, but its kind of annoying having to enter in your password everytime you wanna shut down |
| 22:12.40 | FDFlock | chowder: unless you need it without password ;) |
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| 22:12.55 | FDFlock | chowder: ;) |
| 22:12.56 | gkwhc | ompaul: logg file? |
| 22:12.58 | chowder | FDFlock, right, that's what I was getting at, lol. Especially if its on a desktop system |
| 22:13.14 | ompaul | gkwhc: what happens when you use it ... it should tell you |
| 22:14.06 | bahamas | damn, i don't have internet access on this machine. i'll just use the shutdown button |
| 22:14.07 | nkuttler | i believe that both gdm and kdm let you halt a box.. which 'desktop users' should probably use |
| 22:14.16 | gkwhc | ompaul: unfortunately it doesnt. it starts downloading to a some %, then stops completely for 20 minutes, then goes back for a bit to a low speed like 16B/s, then stops again |
| 22:14.46 | FDFlock | bahamas: why would you need internet access to shutdown Oo |
| 22:14.50 | ompaul | gkwhc: sounds like you should use a different mirror to test against, which one do you point at |
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| 22:15.42 | gkwhc | ompaul: i am using the defualt debian mirror as well as mirror.rit.edu/debian |
| 22:15.44 | FDFlock | gkwhc: Surely sounds like that mirror is having problems, try a different one ("software sources" in Gnome) |
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| 22:15.57 | ompaul | gkwhc: as well as ... only use one |
| 22:16.12 | kNC | Anyoneknow how I can configure the VNC Server? I installed vnc4server |
| 22:16.20 | ompaul | gkwhc: please paste your sources.list in a pastebin thanks |
| 22:16.22 | bahamas | FDFlock: i need internet access to install sudo |
| 22:16.29 | bahamas | oh, wait |
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| 22:17.02 | bahamas | never mind. i just switched to root and ran 'poweroff' |
| 22:17.06 | bahamas | thanks for all the help |
| 22:17.38 | FDFlock | bahamas: you're welcome (I was thinking that sudo would be pre-installed) |
| 22:17.51 | FDFlock | bahamas: "halt" is probably preferable |
| 22:18.02 | krakrjak | booo |
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| 22:18.07 | krakrjak | poweroff is great! |
| 22:18.15 | FDFlock | lol ok |
| 22:18.24 | gkwhc | ompaul: http://pastebin.com/UmLKqX2v |
| 22:18.30 | krakrjak | the manpage states it's the same as shutdown -h |
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| 22:19.04 | ompaul | gkwhc: who told you to set it up like that |
| 22:19.12 | vlt | kNC: . |
| 22:19.16 | krakrjak | Seth_Hikaru: I'll be around tomorrow. we'll try again. |
| 22:19.22 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay. |
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| 22:19.35 | gkwhc | ompaul: thats wrong? |
| 22:19.50 | FDFlock | krakrjak: indeed, I just checked... not on all runlevels though (?) |
| 22:19.54 | anoob | are there any way to discover how my hardware is mapped on debian? i mean (sda, sr0, etc) ... |
| 22:20.03 | bahamas | btw, before i go to sleep, if i want to install the rest of the basic applications, do i find them all somewhere or i need to take pick them one by one? |
| 22:20.04 | ompaul | gkwhc: let me put it this way, it is very confusing and has the habit of breaking things |
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| 22:20.16 | ompaul | gkwhc: you either run unstable or you run stable |
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| 22:20.46 | ompaul | gkwhc: if you run stable you should run security repos also |
| 22:20.52 | FDFlock | bahamas: is that a desktop system? If yes, use Synaptic, it's great. Otherwise use "aptitude" |
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| 22:21.00 | vlt | Hello. How can I install pkg mdadm without being asked any qustions? |
| 22:21.14 | vlt | *questions |
| 22:21.17 | ompaul | gkwhc: the .edu is commented out - so my question is - what system do you want to run? |
| 22:21.21 | krakrjak | FDFlock: weird right? I figured it would be all runlevels. |
| 22:21.27 | FDFlock | yes |
| 22:21.43 | bahamas | FDFlock: what do you mean by desktop system? i used a netinstall.iso to install debian |
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| 22:21.53 | gkwhc | ompaul: stable. but some special software i need are only in unstable |
| 22:21.55 | bahamas | s/a/the/ |
| 22:22.36 | FDFlock | bahamas: oh, are you still in the installation phase? I just meant that using an apt-get frontend like aptitude is a good idea |
| 22:22.43 | FDFlock | easy to use and powerful |
| 22:22.48 | nsadmin | vlt, the questions are for setting it up |
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| 22:23.04 | bahamas | FDFlock: well, i installed the system and shut it down |
| 22:23.07 | ompaul | gkwhc: do this /msg dpkg repos |
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| 22:23.37 | bahamas | but i'll want to install the rest of the stuff that i need, including a windowing system |
| 22:23.45 | ompaul | gkwhc: also I strongly suggest you comment out that repo unless there is exactly one package in there |
| 22:23.49 | vlt | nsadmin: Ok, how to set it up without questions? |
| 22:23.50 | kNC | vlt: Wondering how to configure the vnc server. I installed the vnc4server |
| 22:24.17 | vlt | kNC: Usually just run it. |
| 22:24.17 | ompaul | gkwhc: also I strongly suggest you comment out the unstalbe repo unless there is exactly one package in there |
| 22:24.17 | ompaul | unstable even |
| 22:24.30 | gkwhc | yes, there are a few |
| 22:24.38 | bahamas | ok, i'll find out tomorrow. |
| 22:24.41 | bahamas | 'night |
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| 22:25.11 | krakrjak | is heading home. Good luck with all your Debian related issues! |
| 22:25.37 | ompaul | gkwhc: well what you have is a mess, I'll leave you with a comment - read what the bot says and check out backports more than likely it will be more helpful for you |
| 22:25.42 | vlt | nsadmin: Can I create a conf file in advance to avoid the questions? |
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| 22:26.12 | vlt | kNC: What did you do, what did you expect and what exactly happened instead? |
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| 22:30.40 | nsadmin | vlt do the questions come from debconf? |
| 22:31.10 | vlt | nsadmin: I think so. |
| 22:31.22 | FDFlock | Any networking gurus here right now? |
| 22:31.32 | nsadmin | !ask |
| 22:31.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 22:34.08 | TBotNik | All: OK still trapped out on liveCD at this point as even locked out of synaptic on HDD boot. Please read forum post and the PB post therein for full understanding of the problem. Thinking about complete re-install of 10.04, to get back to ground zero on this. Hope there are some networking gurus out there that can get me past the issues here. |
| 22:34.08 | TBotNik | Thanks! |
| 22:34.11 | nsadmin | vlt so there are interfaces debconf can use, and also level of questions; if you were to look into those you'd find a family of solutions |
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| 22:34.48 | vlt | nsadmin: Thanks. |
| 22:34.49 | nsadmin | TBotNik, debian doesn't have a version 10... |
| 22:35.25 | nsadmin | TBotNik, ubuntu does |
| 22:35.40 | TBotNik | nsadmin: On U-Box |
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| 22:36.08 | TBotNik | Sorry all forum post at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11089497#post11089497 |
| 22:36.15 | FDFlock | TBotNik: What nsadmin said, and also please include that forum URL if you need help (not everyone here is a member) |
| 22:36.24 | FDFlock | oh, i see :) |
| 22:36.39 | twobitsprite | TBotNik: Perhaps you should try in #ubuntu |
| 22:36.42 | nsadmin | well if you go to the forum, there could be a band and dancing there |
| 22:37.17 | nsadmin | maybe the bass player is a net guru? |
| 22:37.18 | TBotNik | twobitsprite: I've been fighting this for days, and gotten best help here, thanks! |
| 22:37.45 | twobitsprite | TBotNik: well, Ubuntu is not the same as Debian. Only Debian is supported in here |
| 22:38.19 | TBotNik | twobitsprite: ##networking and #ubuntu very little help, best help from here and ##linux. |
| 22:39.02 | twobitsprite | TBotNik: then maybe you should be running Debian if you can't get support for your OS from the people who actually support it |
| 22:39.12 | FDFlock | twobitsprite: Yes, true, but most low-level configuration would be the same. Let's avoid nitpicking |
| 22:39.44 | twobitsprite | FDFlock: I don't know if that's true, I don't have an ubuntu box to verify... and there are significant and important differences between them |
| 22:39.54 | TBotNik | FDFlock: Thanks! |
| 22:40.09 | twobitsprite | FDFlock: you're welcome to help him in #ubuntu :) |
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| 22:41.01 | FDFlock | twobitsprite: I guess so, but i'm no longer an Ubuntu user ;) In any case, config certainly used to be the same in the past |
| 22:41.09 | FDFlock | I don't know about recent versions |
| 22:41.46 | twobitsprite | FDFlock: I have seen it happen plenty of times... the people in this channel spend a lot of time trying to help troubleshoot someones problem, only to find out they're running ubuntu and there's some difference that the people in here didn't know about |
| 22:41.57 | themill | FDFlock: that's exactly why ubuntu help is in #ubuntu and not #debian... people are here to help debian users and know about debian. |
| 22:42.34 | twobitsprite | too much potential to waste everyone time troubleshooting a problem that's ubuntu specific |
| 22:43.21 | FDFlock | themill: Sure, I agree, but I have to point out that an elitist attitude towards ubuntu (and other distro) users seems ugly |
| 22:43.32 | FDFlock | But I'm not a regular here... |
| 22:43.39 | FDFlock | ...so what do i know! |
| 22:43.44 | nsadmin | ubuntu is elitist?! |
| 22:43.50 | FDFlock | no, debian is |
| 22:43.54 | twobitsprite | FDFlock: it's not elitist.... I run ubuntu on my home laptop... the point is, Debian != Ubuntu, and ubuntu is off-topic in here |
| 22:43.56 | themill | FDFlock: it's not elitist at all. each channel has a topic and you should stick to it. |
| 22:43.58 | twobitsprite | that's what #ubuntu is for |
| 22:44.18 | FDFlock | themill: I already stated that I agree, in principle. |
| 22:44.40 | themill | then how about answering back and instead moving on... |
| 22:44.40 | FDFlock | themill: In this particular case I think that some people here could help him |
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| 22:45.22 | twobitsprite | FDFlock: and those people could go over to #ubuntu or #debian-offtopic or PM to help him. |
| 22:45.39 | FDFlock | OH COME ON LET'S STOP THIS! |
| 22:45.45 | FDFlock | Oh my! |
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| 22:46.23 | nsadmin | shiftkeystiction! |
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| 22:53.57 | bisconer | how unstable is debain ustable? |
| 22:54.33 | bisconer | i mean is this a term used lightly or heavily in this case? |
| 22:55.23 | zykotick9 | bisconer, in this case the "unstable" probably isn't being used in the sense you expect. Unstable means the package versions are constantly changing, thus "unstable". |
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| 22:56.24 | bisconer | zykotick9, so its like using the latest version of ubuntu (stablity wise) |
| 22:56.26 | interference | hmm, when i try to launch red eclipse from my file manager or through a menu.. it fails, but when i launch it from terminal it runs |
| 22:56.29 | interference | any ideas? |
| 22:56.57 | zykotick9 | bisconer, ubuntu starts with testing/unstable and it goes downhill from there ;) |
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| 22:57.06 | interference | i've tried putting the shell script and the bin itself in the menu, no dice |
| 22:57.13 | interference | but when i run either from terminal the game launches |
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| 22:58.01 | bisconer | zykotick9, thanks for helping with tath. |
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| 22:58.52 | hermogenes | interference: when you run it from the terminal you do it from what directory? This may be an issue with your $PATH environment variable. |
| 22:58.53 | zykotick9 | bisconer, the general rule seems to be "if you have to ask about Sid - don't use it". I'm not trying to be rude, just sharing what I perceive to be the general sentiment. |
| 22:59.45 | bisconer | zykotick9, No I understand that. if im not confertiable with stable release, going to ustable isnt going to help. |
| 22:59.48 | interference | it seems to run if i put in the whole path (/home/user/games/reclient.bin) or if i cd to the directory and run it |
| 22:59.49 | th0r | I have a fresh install from the Debian Live cd. I cannot mount an external usb drive; it gives this error: "ntfs-3g-mount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/usb0." I am a member of both fuse and plugdev, and have installed both thunar-volman and usbmount |
| 23:00.08 | bisconer | zykotick9, i was just thinking about wither or not it would be better to use to get more features. |
| 23:00.26 | bisconer | zykotick9, like i cant simply use my usb headset via plug an play |
| 23:00.41 | bisconer | well actully to behonst i dont understand why it dosnt work. |
| 23:00.54 | bisconer | because it worked out of the box in ubuntu. |
| 23:01.08 | interference | the shell script for the game seems to set the path variables every time it runs.. idk why it wouldnt launch it from file manager |
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| 23:02.01 | interference | oh well, not a big deal, can just launch it from terminal |
| 23:02.08 | hermogenes | interference: hum... strange. |
| 23:02.45 | interference | yeah, was strange to me too, only reason i brought it up here |
| 23:03.31 | interference | afaik the openbox menu basically enters whatever you put in the item as if directly into terminal |
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| 23:04.22 | interference | maybe something to do with runlevels, idk |
| 23:04.42 | interference | i mean permission levels or whatever, lol |
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| 23:21.43 | bizy | can anyone help me make it so when i click on weblinks Chrome is opened rather than konqour. |
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| 23:23.19 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 23:23.33 | man_in_shack | anyone here do video editing? i'm wondering what a good program is :) |
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| 23:25.24 | vlt | Hello. I try to "aptitude install mdadm" w/o being asked any questions. I tried by creating /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf before but that didn't help. Any idea? |
| 23:25.48 | vlt | man_in_shack: I don't know whether there is any :( |
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| 23:26.21 | vlt | man_in_shack: "kino" maybe. Or "pitivi". |
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| 23:27.30 | delvalle26 | quick question to anyone running wheezy, what does htop show for nm-applet ram usage? Mine is showing 160mb... |
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| 23:29.52 | Igneous | For amd64 users, what's the suggested way to have binary compatability with (dependency heavy) 32bit apps? Is a 32bit dchroot still the suggested method? |
| 23:30.35 | greedo | anyone use ksplice? |
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| 23:31.38 | man_in_shack | Igneous: chroot of some type (i use schroot) is the most reliable methdo |
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| 23:33.02 | nevyn | man_in_shack: kmoviemaker for simple stuff there's a beast of a editor/renderer |
| 23:33.04 | nevyn | as well |
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| 23:38.32 | FDFlock | man_in_shack: Not for editing, but for simple conversions etc. you can try Avidemux... and of course mencoder. Also mkvtoolnix is a very reliable and easy-to-use tool for the final muxing, if you like the matroska format. |
| 23:38.54 | FDFlock | man_in_shack: That's not real video editing though ;) |
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| 23:39.13 | man_in_shack | i use handbrake for most of my converting |
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| 23:39.28 | man_in_shack | but i'm looking for a reliable, stable video editing solution |
| 23:39.35 | man_in_shack | last i used was imovie in 2003 :D |
| 23:40.04 | FDFlock | man_in_shack: If you find one, tell me too :-P |
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| 23:40.24 | man_in_shack | well there's compilerror ... i mean cinelerra |
| 23:40.40 | rhineheart_m | how to delete directory which is not empty... :) |
| 23:40.41 | man_in_shack | but i find it ugly and confusing |
| 23:40.48 | rhineheart_m | with this remdir |
| 23:41.04 | man_in_shack | rhineheart_m: rm -rf your_full_directory |
| 23:41.04 | queso_ | I followed the commands on mozilla.debian.net to add the archive key to my keyring, but when I go in aptitude it is giving me a GPG error that the signiture could not be verified. What to do? |
| 23:41.12 | FDFlock | rhineheart_m: Just use "rm -rv nameofdir" |
| 23:41.15 | man_in_shack | rhineheart_m: that won't ask for ANY confirmation though |
| 23:41.25 | FDFlock | rhineheart_m: "-r" is for "recursive" |
| 23:41.26 | man_in_shack | use with EXTREME caution |
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| 23:41.35 | rhineheart_m | shocks! taking note of it.. |
| 23:41.47 | man_in_shack | -f is for "do it without asking or stopping" |
| 23:42.30 | queso_ | Nevermind, fixed it :) |
| 23:42.32 | FDFlock | avoiding "-f" really saved my once from my own stupi... ehm, typo |
| 23:42.41 | FDFlock | *saved me |
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| 23:43.06 | FDFlock | I had typed ".." instead of "." Oo |
| 23:43.16 | FDFlock | with rm in front |
| 23:43.20 | FDFlock | oh yeah |
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| 23:43.53 | kristian-aalborg | greetings |
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| 23:44.11 | man_in_shack | vlt: i don't see a package for "kmoviemaker" |
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| 23:46.05 | nevyn | cinelerra was the name I was hunting for |
| 23:46.47 | man_in_shack | the most annoying thing about cinelerra is there are two versions |
| 23:46.54 | man_in_shack | cinelerra and cinelerra-cv |
| 23:47.12 | man_in_shack | both of which, last time i tried to find video editing software, were hideously unstable |
| 23:47.16 | man_in_shack | just in different ways |
| 23:47.34 | iateadonut | kdenlive is good. |
| 23:47.58 | FDFlock | lol, I remember trying in the (distant) past. It was veeeeeery unstable indeed. |
| 23:48.03 | iateadonut | kdenlive is pretty unstable, but it saves your files often, so when you re-open it after it crashes, you're right where you were. |
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| 23:48.37 | iateadonut | if my sources.list file only has a security server in it, can i just cron "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" every night? |
| 23:48.45 | vlt | sounds great o_O |
| 23:51.16 | FDFlock | man_in_shack: No, I remember now, it wasn't cinelerra the program that I had tried (and found unstable), it was kino. You might want to look it up, seems decent and probably is more stable now. |
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| 23:52.35 | nevyn | iateadonut: you can do anything you like will stuff not break. maybe. |
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| 23:57.39 | man_in_shack | hmm |
| 23:57.47 | man_in_shack | kdenlive doesn't seem to want to record audio only |
| 23:57.52 | *** join/#debian ozdeb (~Oz@adsl-75-34-32-197.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:59.16 | iateadonut | when i "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade", i only have "http://security.debian.org/" in my sources.list, so why is it displaying: "Hit ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org" |
| 23:59.58 | simonlnu | check in sources.list.d |
