| 00:00.04 | wrtiii | nsadmin, exactly my thoughts. I'll try ubuntu's big brother rather than the kiddy version |
| 00:00.20 | nsadmin | packard bell??P! :) |
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| 00:01.02 | Some_Person | The green star means that that machine is currently turned on |
| 00:01.09 | nsadmin | wrtiii, so the next step is to determine your backup requirements |
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| 00:01.32 | nsadmin | the default case is you need to backup all storage in the machine |
| 00:01.38 | wrtiii | backup requirments? |
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| 00:01.52 | nsadmin | what do you need to keep? |
| 00:01.55 | wrtiii | mumble-server.ini |
| 00:02.52 | wrtiii | I suppose later on if I change into a web server I will require backup |
| 00:03.17 | wrtiii | but for the time being my intents are a barebone non-gui installation and running murmur only |
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| 00:07.22 | Some_Person | nsadmin: So, what do you think I should do? |
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| 00:08.34 | nsadmin | so you have a laptop that can run debian, in the lower left corner |
| 00:09.11 | Some_Person | It's what I'm talking to you with, though it is currently booted into Windows |
| 00:09.35 | nsadmin | can you come in with one of the other machines? |
| 00:09.43 | Some_Person | why? |
| 00:09.56 | nsadmin | we still want to find the IP of the wrt |
| 00:10.03 | Some_Person | yes |
| 00:10.13 | nsadmin | well hold on... |
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| 00:12.08 | wrtiii | Pentium 4 3.6 Ghz translate to which processor architecture? |
| 00:12.17 | wrtiii | 64bit |
| 00:12.41 | babilen | i386/amd64 |
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| 00:13.06 | nsadmin | can you check (say) the packard bell to see what it has as its gateway address? |
| 00:13.22 | wrtiii | i386 is 32 bit right? |
| 00:13.29 | nsadmin | yes |
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| 00:14.16 | nsadmin | I didn't think a p4 could do amd64 |
| 00:14.22 | Some_Person | nsadmin: hold on |
| 00:14.38 | bzed | nsadmin: there were a few models if I remember right |
| 00:15.23 | nsadmin | Some_Person, or any of the top four machines starting at the top right |
| 00:15.40 | Some_Person | nsadmin: I booted the Gateway 2000, and it has a self-assigned IP with no gateway |
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| 00:17.36 | nsadmin | Some_Person, what about any of the ones that are on, of the top 4 starting at the top right |
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| 00:19.20 | Some_Person | nsadmin: The Presario has the same |
| 00:20.00 | nsadmin | hmm... maybe the 54gl is not being a dhcp server |
| 00:20.03 | Some_Person | I can tell you that setting the default gateway to 192.168.1.254 normally allows that area of the network to access the internet -- that's how the SE is configured |
| 00:20.13 | Some_Person | 192.168.1.254 = 2WIRE |
| 00:20.53 | Some_Person | (the SE is too old for DHCP, so it must be configured that way) |
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| 00:22.48 | Some_Person | It's probably trying to route DHCP to the router at the other end of the 2WIRE's old SSID |
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| 00:23.54 | nsadmin | I guess that's vaguely possible... but I didn't think dhcp could go thru like thaqt |
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| 00:24.42 | Some_Person | Should I switch the 2WIRE's SSID back to the old one? |
| 00:25.37 | nsadmin | see if that makes things work... |
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| 00:27.22 | Some_Person | ok, it's back to the old one (and amazingly the laptop is still connected to freenode despite the switch) |
| 00:28.12 | Some_Person | after an ipconfig/release and ipconfig/renew, the Presario has internet access |
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| 00:29.27 | Some_Person | The Renew button in winipcfg also gave the Gateway 2000 internet access now |
| 00:30.52 | Some_Person | Gateway 2000's IP is 192.168.1.68, default gateway is 192.168.1.254. Presario's IP is 192.168.1.70, same default gateway |
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| 00:33.18 | Some_Person | nsadmin: so... |
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| 00:38.01 | Some_Person | I still want to change the 2WIRE's SSID, but I don't want to break half my network in the process |
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| 00:41.02 | wrtiii | Ok This is just silly |
| 00:41.32 | nsadmin | I can understand that... I don't really want to break my net either |
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| 00:42.02 | wrtiii | I installed on a GX280 system last night and system locks after POST. I got a GX620 tonight and now the new system locks at the same place |
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| 00:42.12 | Some_Person | nsadmin: So what the heck should I do? |
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| 00:44.03 | krakrjak | Some_Person: if you have all the clients bound to the BSSID then changing the ESSID won't matter. |
| 00:44.27 | Some_Person | krakrjak: "BSSID"? "ESSID"? |
| 00:44.40 | krakrjak | Some_Person: if you don't know how to do this or can't for some reason there is no option when you change the ESSID except reconfigure all the client. |
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| 00:45.04 | krakrjak | BSSID=Base Station SID (it's in a MAC address format) |
| 00:45.16 | krakrjak | ESSID=SSID for the most part |
| 00:45.26 | Some_Person | I doubt changing the SSID chnaged the MAC address, so it seems to be bound by ESSID |
| 00:45.55 | krakrjak | that's what most people do. That's how I have my wireless configured here too. |
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| 00:46.15 | krakrjak | So changing the SSID will require reconfiguring all the clients. |
| 00:46.47 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: you got it figured out ? |
| 00:46.53 | Some_Person | here's the real problem: I've got a router acting as a wireless bridge, and I have forgotten how to access its config |
| 00:46.56 | Some_Person | sixyearsofdreams: Nope |
| 00:47.11 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: dang, if you get into 54l settings and u save them it will stay that way until reset ?? |
| 00:47.26 | Some_Person | I don't know how to get into the settings |
| 00:47.30 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: ok |
| 00:47.38 | Some_Person | I'm considering just resetting the darn thing |
| 00:47.48 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: listen, take out your AP ok? the only thing you should have connected is your pc > 54l |
| 00:48.07 | krakrjak | Some_Person: that sounds like a good idea, but you can probably get to the router config through its ethernet port. |
| 00:48.12 | Some_Person | I can change the SSID on the 2WIRE again to break the connection again |
| 00:48.12 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: then point your browser to the default gateway and edit settings, save then add rest |
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| 00:48.25 | Some_Person | There is no DHCP running on the 54GL |
| 00:48.29 | Some_Person | so no default gateway |
| 00:48.35 | Some_Person | It seems to pass DHCP to the other router |
| 00:48.39 | krakrjak | it has an IP right? |
| 00:48.48 | Some_Person | Yes, an unknown/forgotten one |
| 00:48.51 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: but look, can you get it running just for 5 minutes standalone with just pc and ur 54l? |
| 00:49.04 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: edit settings save, and then attach rest of your stuff |
| 00:49.13 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: the reason im telling u this so u can just straight get to the settings, |
| 00:49.29 | Some_Person | sixyearsofdreams: That's how it has been for most of the day (changing the 2WIRE's SSID breaks the connection between the 2 routers, and each machine connected to the 54GL gets a self-assigned IP) |
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| 00:50.03 | Some_Person | there's no DHCP running on the 54GL, so how can I access its settings without knowing what IP it has? |
| 00:50.08 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: at that point 54l is assigning ? |
| 00:50.16 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: did you manual turn this off ??? |
| 00:50.23 | Some_Person | The 54GL is *not* assigning anything |
| 00:50.28 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: u manualy turned DHCP off in routers settings ? |
| 00:50.40 | krakrjak | Som_Person: so the 54GL is just a bridge? |
| 00:50.43 | Some_Person | I must have. I configured this more than a year ago and hardly remember anything about it |
| 00:50.50 | sixyearsofdreams | ah ok |
| 00:50.52 | sixyearsofdreams | krakrjak: yes bridge |
| 00:51.02 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: we been trying to figure out how to get into its settings |
| 00:51.14 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: we can always reset your 54L hard reset |
| 00:51.15 | krakrjak | Some_Person: and the 2Wire is the endpoint of the network? |
| 00:51.21 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: connect it standalone to pc and edit settings |
| 00:51.30 | Some_Person | sixyearsofdreams: How do I "edit settings"? |
| 00:51.48 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: well once you reset, 54L will start assigning |
| 00:52.11 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: 54L will go back to default settings on everything.. its just a router, if u connect it alone to a pc and reset it, it has to give u a default gateway |
| 00:52.14 | sixyearsofdreams | it has to |
| 00:52.22 | Some_Person | yeah, I've been hoping to avoid a hard reset, but it is looking more and more inevitable |
| 00:52.30 | krakrjak | Some_Person: take the 54gl out of the network (on to the porch maybe) and watch the output of tcpdump -n -v -i ethX |
| 00:52.43 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: id say its a pretty quick fix that way, thats just cuz i dont know the rest heh :D |
| 00:53.03 | krakrjak | Some_Porch: you'll probably see it's IP. Set yours to one close to it and try to log in and fix the settings. |
| 00:53.08 | Some_Person | This config has always been rock solid, which is why I have forgotten to access it |
| 00:53.48 | Some_Person | Does there happen to be a tcpdump for windows? |
| 00:54.46 | sixyearsofdreams | if 54L dhcp is off, and you connect the router to the pc via ethernet |
| 00:54.50 | sixyearsofdreams | it will still not assign!? |
| 00:55.18 | Some_Person | How can it assign without dhcp running? |
| 00:55.27 | Some_Person | It passes DHCP to the other router |
| 00:55.34 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: i see |
| 00:55.55 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: i dont see another way geting into its settings without 54L having its name (default gateway) |
| 00:56.27 | sixyearsofdreams | is that even possible? |
| 00:56.39 | sixyearsofdreams | accessing bridge/router settings while DHCP is off ? |
| 00:56.51 | Some_Person | Sure. Just manually input the forgotten Ip |
| 00:57.03 | sixyearsofdreams | manualy enter it where? |
| 00:57.10 | sixyearsofdreams | yo uare talking about the default gateway ip right? |
| 00:57.12 | Some_Person | into the default gateway field and the web browser |
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| 00:57.37 | sixyearsofdreams | so default gateway is always same? never changes? |
| 00:57.48 | Some_Person | why would it change? |
| 00:57.49 | sixyearsofdreams | but we tryied that |
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| 00:57.59 | sixyearsofdreams | we already know by default its 192.168.1.1 |
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| 00:58.02 | sixyearsofdreams | i looked it up |
| 00:58.07 | sixyearsofdreams | for 54; |
| 00:58.07 | Some_Person | We tried that with 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.0.1, which apparently are not its IP |
| 00:58.08 | sixyearsofdreams | l |
| 00:58.23 | sixyearsofdreams | but by default 54Ls default gateway is 192.168.1.1 |
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| 00:58.30 | Some_Person | Well, clearly it isn't now |
| 00:58.34 | sixyearsofdreams | i c |
| 00:58.44 | sixyearsofdreams | so there is a default gateway even though dhcp is off |
| 00:58.48 | sixyearsofdreams | its still possible to access? |
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| 00:58.50 | sixyearsofdreams | i got an idea :) |
| 00:58.54 | sixyearsofdreams | 192.168.1.2 |
| 00:58.56 | sixyearsofdreams | 192.168.1.3 |
| 00:59.00 | sixyearsofdreams | :D so on :Dg get on it hehe |
| 00:59.07 | sixyearsofdreams | 192.168.1.4 :D |
| 00:59.13 | Some_Person | We don't even know it's in the 192.168.1.x range |
| 00:59.19 | sixyearsofdreams | right hehe :) |
| 00:59.30 | sixyearsofdreams | could be 192 168 x x |
| 00:59.37 | sixyearsofdreams | i just dont get it |
| 00:59.41 | sixyearsofdreams | how could default gateway change like that? |
| 00:59.51 | sixyearsofdreams | everywhere i searched either 1.1 or 0.1 |
| 00:59.55 | Some_Person | by changing it in the router config |
| 01:00.01 | Some_Person | I must have changed it for some reason |
| 01:00.03 | sixyearsofdreams | and im assuming u did that? |
| 01:00.04 | sixyearsofdreams | i see |
| 01:00.23 | sixyearsofdreams | krakrjak: hey |
| 01:00.36 | sixyearsofdreams | krakrjak: that tcpdump would that help him at all |
| 01:01.10 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: #networking |
| 01:01.16 | sixyearsofdreams | maybe we can get some help htere |
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| 01:06.31 | Some_Person | holy crud, i got it by random guessing |
| 01:06.34 | Some_Person | 192.168.0.2 |
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| 01:07.06 | sixyearsofdreams | ... |
| 01:07.09 | sixyearsofdreams | are u joking ? |
| 01:07.11 | sixyearsofdreams | lol |
| 01:07.18 | Some_Person | no joke |
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| 01:07.43 | sixyearsofdreams | i think we could have figured it out |
| 01:07.50 | sixyearsofdreams | guessing the fact that your smart |
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| 01:07.56 | sixyearsofdreams | you would set your default to something easy |
| 01:08.01 | sixyearsofdreams | something like 192.168.0.2 |
| 01:08.01 | sixyearsofdreams | lolol |
| 01:08.13 | sixyearsofdreams | one digit differant than its default 192.168.0.1 |
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| 01:08.33 | sixyearsofdreams | well its good i suggested you blindly start inputin digits :D |
| 01:08.36 | freenodiz | wowww,i was having a peek in the debian dos faq for newbies.It's great,well organized...I have experience with mac(also unix) and a bit of centos and ubuntu on me already...i guess i will have a debian server in no time ! yayayayyy!tytytytyty |
| 01:10.00 | Some_Person | Now that I'm in... HOW CAN I AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE??? |
| 01:10.34 | sixyearsofdreams | by writing down defaulted settings u change :D |
| 01:10.38 | sixyearsofdreams | like default gateway! :D |
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| 01:21.58 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: so how it goes lol |
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| 02:06.27 | mooglenorph | Hi. I have a thinkpad x200s, and about 20% of the time, on resume from suspend, the screen's backlight won't turn on. |
| 02:06.48 | mooglenorph | So I'm left with a blank screen. I've googled a bunch and I can't find a clear answer. I'm running debian stable. |
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| 02:08.53 | mooglenorph | The hardware screen brightness controls also do not work. |
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| 02:15.37 | mooglenorph | I don't have gnome installed. |
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| 02:20.27 | shalok | Why does the wine package no longer exist in testing? |
| 02:21.31 | craigevil | uhm because wheezy went on the wagon? |
| 02:22.43 | shalok | Huh? |
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| 02:23.42 | inference | what is a good .pdf viewer? |
| 02:23.49 | inference | ...other than acrobat |
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| 02:24.02 | craigevil | shalok, wine is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=wine |
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| 02:24.33 | craigevil | inference, evince, okular, xpdf, zathura, take your pick |
| 02:24.57 | inference | ty ty |
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| 02:28.26 | nsadmin2 | , file bin/partprobe |
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| 02:54.01 | nsadmin2 | how do you get one of those 2-port midisport things going? |
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| 02:59.50 | th0r | pzn: I believe you can find on the web a simple script to lower case a tree |
| 03:01.04 | th0r | pzn: try here....http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=convert+filenames+to+lower+case+in+linux&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest |
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| 03:29.33 | dpierce | i used echo -e to change the appearance of the cursor for the console so it would stop blinking. when ever i launch another program, such as vim, emacs, etc it resets the cursor back to blinking which drives me nuts. any ideas on how to make the setting stick? |
| 03:32.59 | voltagex | hi, I'm using a Realtek R8111 ethernet chip with Debian Stable, the network seems to drop every 5 seconds |
| 03:33.03 | dpierce | its really annoying in emacs, which has a huge white block cursor that flashes. M-x blink-cursor-mode does nothing to stop it. |
| 03:33.23 | crunge | I've started up upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I rebooted after the kernel and udev install. That hangs before init (2.6.32-5-amd64). However, the old kernel boots fine (2.6.32-2-amd64). The only firmware update-initramfs says is missing is rt8186 which I installed, then ran udpate-initramfs again. No change |
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| 03:39.52 | voltagex | Z68 based motherboards aren't so good under debian AFAICT |
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| 03:43.40 | rhenani | hello guys, I'm trying find out how to see what version of yasm i have installed |
| 03:44.36 | th0r | rhenani: usually you can just do yasm --version |
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| 03:56.36 | voltagex | Whoa, complete system screwup with Radeon and latest testing kernel |
| 03:57.25 | th0r | voltagex: that is why they call it testing |
| 03:57.48 | voltagex | th0r: it's been there fpr a while, garbage and flashing noise on screen. |
| 03:58.06 | voltagex | th0r: since 2.6.38 at least |
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| 04:01.53 | craigevil | radeon or fglrx? radeon works just fine, its fglrx that has issues |
| 04:02.11 | krakrjak | !sns |
| 04:02.11 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 04:02.34 | voltagex | craigevil: not even getting that far, it's just after grub |
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| 04:03.41 | voltagex | craigevil: same in recovery mode |
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| 04:04.21 | voltagex | krakrjak: stable doesn't support my NIC correctly. |
| 04:05.21 | krakrjak | voltagex: so does backports get you what you need or are you a squeeze/wheezy/sid? |
| 04:05.22 | craigevil | never ran testing, always ran sid, Card: ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] X.Org: 1.10.2.902 driver: radeon |
| 04:06.18 | voltagex | craigevil: 6870, not mobility. I know radeon works better with older cards. also blacklist=radeon doesn't seem to help... |
| 04:06.26 | voltagex | voltagex: wheezy. |
| 04:07.09 | krakrjak | voltagex: so what version of the kernel are you running? |
| 04:07.30 | voltagex | whatever's latest in Wheezy, brb |
| 04:08.01 | craigevil | sounds more like your grub is messed up than video driver, not much to using the radeon driver |
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| 04:08.29 | voltagex | craigevil: I can boot 2.6.32 fine. |
| 04:08.56 | krakrjak | voltagex: 2.6.32 doesn't give you hardware support for that card. |
| 04:09.11 | voltagex | krakrjak: I know, but the console works! |
| 04:09.23 | krakrjak | voltagex: different drivers |
| 04:09.54 | krakrjak | voltagex: the fglrx driver didn't grow support for that card until later. |
| 04:10.19 | voltagex | krakrjak: Console does not work at all under 2.6.39 |
| 04:10.39 | craigevil | might need to install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 04:10.44 | voltagex | krakrjak: I currently don't care about any acceleration until I get my system working |
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| 04:11.11 | craigevil | after 2.6.32 some drivers that were in the kernel got moved out of the kernel tree and into separate firmware package |
| 04:11.12 | voltagex | craigevil: if I boot .32 to install that, will .39 find it? |
| 04:11.14 | krakrjak | voltagex: then I guess radeon it is. |
| 04:11.34 | krakrjak | voltagex: yes |
| 04:11.45 | krakrjak | voltagex: it will build the module for all installed kernels by default |
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| 04:12.34 | craigevil | aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree xserver-xorg-video-radeon , then reboot and see what happens |
| 04:12.35 | voltagex | krakrjak: my NIC barely works for some reason, never had this much trouble with a board under linux since DFI |
| 04:12.54 | voltagex | craigevil: no xserver yet. |
| 04:13.01 | krakrjak | voltagex: broadcom nics in particular are also affected by the firmware move |
| 04:13.17 | voltagex | krakrjak: this is realtek, log is full of "eth0: link up" |
| 04:13.31 | voltagex | network speed is 5-8% of normal |
| 04:13.57 | krakrjak | voltagex: sounds like hardware failure. Does it happen on all kernels tested or just .32? |
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| 04:14.29 | voltagex | krakrjak: haven't been able to test any other kernels due to video problems. No issues using the NIC under "that other OS" |
| 04:14.47 | craigevil | if everything works on 2.6.32 and not in newer kernels chances are you just need the necessary firmware packages |
| 04:15.03 | krakrjak | nods |
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| 04:16.06 | Juv1228 | hello, im having abit of trouble with X and debian' |
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| 04:16.22 | Juv1228 | more specifically, X, debian, and mhddfs as /home |
| 04:16.53 | Juv1228 | if i mount /home from an ext4 partition it works fine |
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| 04:17.22 | krakrjak | mhddfs? link me? |
| 04:17.25 | crunge | I've found that with this motherboard 2.6.32-2-amd64 boots without issue. For 2.6.32-5-amd64 to boot I have to disable ACPI in the BIOS |
| 04:17.27 | Juv1228 | but if i mount it with mhddfs to combine a few drives i get /usr/bin/xauth: error in locking authority file /home/amorton/.Xauthority |
| 04:17.38 | Juv1228 | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fromanrm.ru%2Fen%2Fmhddfs&ei=3YUzTu-1DMfPgAeUzsHyDA&usg=AFQjCNFRLbWZiS8A2XaBFd2cB2SIQ85KZQ |
| 04:17.45 | krakrjak | smaller? |
| 04:17.47 | Juv1228 | oops, sorry bout that link |
| 04:17.53 | Juv1228 | http://romanrm.ru/en/mhddfs |
| 04:17.55 | voltagex | aha! I'm missing /lib/firmware/rtl8168d-1.fw apparently |
| 04:18.20 | Juv1228 | its a fuse extension that mounts multiple partitions on one point and sum's their files |
| 04:18.38 | voltagex | firmware not available yet? wtf? welcome back to 2001 |
| 04:19.15 | krakrjak | and you want to diagnose a timing issue in the unionfs lookalike? |
| 04:19.17 | Juv1228 | http://pastie.org/2293016 |
| 04:19.35 | Juv1228 | thats the fstab |
| 04:20.34 | krakrjak | don't use a # in the mhddfs line |
| 04:22.07 | krakrjak | ? |
| 04:22.14 | Juv1228 | it gives me [mntent]: line 28 in /etc/fstab is bad |
| 04:22.53 | krakrjak | ok so it needs to be there... that seems to be the only thing that stands out to me. |
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| 04:23.28 | Juv1228 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.34 | Juv1228 | and i can read/write |
| 04:23.40 | krakrjak | so does this happen after a clean boot where the file system is not mounted on top of the other /home that is commented out? |
| 04:23.46 | voltagex | so apparently there's no firmware for my NIC |
| 04:24.01 | Juv1228 | the only problem is X cant lock its authority files |
| 04:24.05 | Juv1228 | yes, it does |
| 04:24.10 | krakrjak | voltagex: what? that's not the realtek blob you are looking for? |
| 04:24.19 | krakrjak | aaahh. |
| 04:24.25 | Juv1228 | clean boot/manual it makes no difference |
| 04:24.41 | voltagex | krakrjak: debian mailing list something something mumble we can't release the firmware yet :o |
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| 04:26.15 | voltagex | looks like firmware-nonfree fixed the video issue though. Anyone installing off a Debian CD with a HD6 series ATI card is in for a nasty shock |
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| 04:27.14 | krakrjak | voltagex: thank you for noting it. I'm eyeing that card for bitcoin mining. |
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| 04:28.11 | craigevil | voltagex, i have /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw here but not -1 |
| 04:28.30 | voltagex1 | craigevil: the missing firmware script mentioned both |
| 04:28.51 | voltagex1 | argh, brb |
| 04:29.03 | krakrjak | Juv1228: I can't find any good references on file locking in fuse filesystems. |
| 04:29.26 | krakrjak | Juv1228: does basic file locking work? |
| 04:29.26 | craigevil | spoke too soon didnt look up far enough, /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw is there as well |
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| 04:30.06 | Juv1228 | krakrjak, example command? (moron here) |
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| 04:30.40 | krakrjak | Juv1228: lockfile |
| 04:32.34 | Juv1228 | lockfile: Sorry, giving up on ".Xauthority-c" |
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| 04:33.23 | voltagex | still getting the link up spam in my logs |
| 04:33.24 | krakrjak | Juv1228: this may be a limitation of fuse file systems. |
| 04:34.02 | Juv1228 | it also fails on a file in / |
| 04:34.07 | Juv1228 | as root of course |
| 04:34.16 | Juv1228 | which is a strait up ext3 |
| 04:34.26 | krakrjak | Juv1228: seek out fstest on google and see if your fuse filesystem is ready to be a /home file system. Not all of them are created well enough to do robust locking. |
| 04:35.12 | krakrjak | Juv1228: the file shouldn't already exist. |
| 04:35.30 | Juv1228 | oh, then hold up. lets try this again |
| 04:36.19 | Juv1228 | lockfile: Try praying, giving up on "test" |
| 04:36.31 | Juv1228 | works in / but not in /home |
| 04:36.36 | Juv1228 | so i guess it is fuse |
| 04:36.54 | krakrjak | Juv1228: I think so. Try strace on a lockfile to see it. |
| 04:37.10 | krakrjak | Juv1228: strace lockfile ~/test.lockfile |
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| 04:37.44 | krakrjak | Juv1228: and seriously look at fstest to see what fuse filesystems can do this sort of stuff. |
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| 04:39.17 | voltagex | craigevil: where did you get your NIC firmware? |
| 04:39.21 | Juv1228 | http://pastie.org/2293068 |
| 04:39.54 | craigevil | apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree , but i am running sid, although it should be the same in testing |
| 04:40.16 | Juv1228 | link("/home/amorton/_xh.er4MOB.server", "/home/amorton/test.lockfile") = -1 ENOSYS (Function not implemented) |
| 04:40.22 | Juv1228 | that line jumps out at me |
| 04:40.36 | voltagex | craigevil: it's not in testing by the look of it, and the workarounds for the "link up" issue don't work because the driver doesn't listen to ethtool |
| 04:40.45 | craigevil | whoops you meant firmware-realtek |
| 04:41.05 | krakrjak | Juv1228: ENOSYS |
| 04:41.16 | voltagex | craigevil: file isn't in there... |
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| 04:42.42 | craigevil | grab it from sid, apt-get install -t unstable firmware-linux-nonfree, should work ok wothout pulling in other things |
| 04:44.37 | voltagex | I hate hardware :P |
| 04:45.17 | craigevil | http://pastebin.com/NTibG4sf thats part of what dpkg -L firmware-linux-nonfree shows here |
| 04:45.31 | craigevil | crap i mean firmware-realtek |
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| 04:47.17 | voltagex | hm found it, but apt-file didn't see it |
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| 04:48.23 | drwahl | i'm getting some wierd jittery/distorted audio when playing certain media types in web browsers (i've tried konqueror, chrome and iceweasel). i'm running debian sid. any ideas on how to fix/troubleshoot this? |
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| 04:49.35 | Juv1228 | http://svn.uvw.ru/mhddfs/tags/release_0.1.37/README |
| 04:49.44 | Juv1228 | thats the mhddfs version installed |
| 04:49.50 | krakrjak | !sid |
| 04:49.50 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 04:49.52 | Juv1228 | it claims to support file locks? |
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| 04:50.48 | drwahl | krakrjak: i'm able to repro this in squeeze as well |
| 04:51.03 | voltagex | bah. still slow |
| 04:51.14 | voltagex | and still log spam |
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| 04:51.19 | Harzilein | hi |
| 04:51.46 | Harzilein | i'm trying to get at the svn repo behind http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-subversion/ but i'm no dd |
| 04:53.14 | krakrjak | Juv1228: I read that too, but your trace says otherwise. |
| 04:53.51 | Juv1228 | lemmy try building the trunk. current version is 0.1.90 |
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| 04:55.10 | voltagex | http://pastebin.com/VvinUD7b my network issues |
| 04:56.31 | krakrjak | so is it firmware? |
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| 04:58.29 | voltagex | krakrjak: that was my first guess, but apparently not. Firmware installed in 2.6.39 and throughput is still 20mbit max |
| 04:58.49 | voltagex | krakrjak: and then after about a minute, eth0 goes down |
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| 05:02.43 | tuv | do you 'ssh root@remotehost', or 'ssh user@remotehost; sudo' ? |
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| 05:07.21 | Juv1228 | hey, lookit that! |
| 05:07.28 | Juv1228 | krakrjak, |
| 05:07.42 | Juv1228 | compiled svn trunk and it works |
| 05:08.21 | krakrjak | Juv1228: great! |
| 05:08.23 | Juv1228 | thanks for the help figuring this out krakrjak |
| 05:08.35 | Juv1228 | much appreciated! |
| 05:08.55 | krakrjak | voltagex: is there a bug on that firmware package? |
| 05:09.00 | Juv1228 | its had me (and many others) boggled for the last few days ^^ |
| 05:09.10 | voltagex | not a clue. |
| 05:09.54 | krakrjak | Juv1228: no problem glad I could help. |
| 05:09.57 | voltagex | krakrjak: the only lead I get is you may need to turn off link autonegotiation on these cards, but you can't do that anymore. |
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| 05:13.01 | krakrjak | voltagex: I see that too. hrm. ethtool even with the firmware can't turn autoneg off? |
| 05:13.12 | voltagex | krakrjak: no. |
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| 05:15.25 | Viking667 | hi all. Whatever happened to the gtk-config command? Is it still present in recent releases of debian? |
| 05:16.15 | krakrjak | Viking667: gconf2 |
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| 05:16.31 | Viking667 | ugh. I should have thought of that. Thank you. You've answered a conundrum. |
| 05:17.18 | krakrjak | voltagex: did you try the /etc/network/interfaces workaround with post-up ethtool -s ethX speed 100 autoneg off |
| 05:17.39 | voltagex | krakrjak: ethtool says "invalid argument" |
| 05:17.47 | krakrjak | *doh* |
| 05:18.22 | voltagex | krakrjak: afaict ethtool is just fiddling with module parameters, and those parameters don't exist anymore. Next time I will buy a different motherboard. I haven't had this much trouble since DFI made boards. |
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| 05:19.54 | Viking667 | ... weird. |
| 05:20.08 | Viking667 | the gtk-config command I'm after is a programming helper... |
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| 05:21.42 | WeisseWaschbaer | Hey, where do i change the enviroment variables to set my default visudo editor to vim? |
| 05:22.08 | voltagex | WeisseWaschbaer: export EDITOR=vi |
| 05:22.29 | Viking667 | WeisseWaschbaer: also check $VISUAL |
| 05:22.30 | voltagex | WeisseWaschbaer: or add it to .bashrc to make it permenant. |
| 05:22.59 | Viking667 | $VISUAL gets checked (sometimes) if $EDITOR isn't set |
| 05:23.28 | krakrjak | I set $EDITOR to vim unless I have to fall all the way back to vi. |
| 05:24.24 | Viking667 | vim is usually not installed by _default_, though some form of vi usually is. |
| 05:24.40 | Viking667 | (either nvi, elvis or whichever the other one is) |
| 05:25.09 | craigevil | nano is installed by default and maybe vim-tiny |
| 05:25.19 | Viking667 | hates nano |
| 05:25.26 | krakrjak | vim-tiny is in the default for squeeze |
| 05:25.30 | Viking667 | never liked pico either... |
| 05:25.44 | krakrjak | I just grab vim and zsh as quickly as I log into the box. |
| 05:25.52 | craigevil | meh it works well enough to edit things like sources.list and other conf files |
| 05:25.54 | Viking667 | krakrjak: ahh, then things have changed since the last time I dealt with native debian. THAT was back in woody days. |
| 05:26.09 | Viking667 | who remembers slink? heh. |
| 05:26.28 | craigevil | started using debian when woody was the current stable |
| 05:26.45 | Viking667 | I came across debian at the slink/potato releases. |
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| 05:27.02 | Viking667 | Corel Linux 1 used slink as a basis, I believe. |
| 05:27.24 | craigevil | uses cream rather than vim |
| 05:27.26 | WeisseWaschbaer | voltagex: i should add $EDITOR=vi or EDITOR=vi on .bashrc? |
| 05:27.39 | Viking667 | never got the point to cream. |
| 05:27.48 | Viking667 | EDITOR= .... |
| 05:28.29 | krakrjak | I've come to Debian after many other distros |
| 05:29.59 | Viking667 | hahahahahahaha.... like what? |
| 05:30.32 | krakrjak | Mandrake, Red Hat 9, OpenBSD 3, |
| 05:30.41 | krakrjak | SuSe 9.1 |
| 05:32.10 | Viking667 | Redhat 4, TurboLinux6, Mandrake 5, slink, but my earliest setup was based off a 1.0.9 kernel, and a whole lot of tarballs from what appeared to be an early Slackware distribution |
| 05:32.17 | Viking667 | or possibly even SLS |
| 05:32.45 | Viking667 | my first exposure to UNIX happened back in '91 |
| 05:32.56 | Viking667 | ... so that was way before FreeBSD |
| 05:33.44 | WeisseWaschbaer | I just cant use nano which was setted as default on my system for visudo... so I use vi or preferencially vim |
| 05:34.07 | Viking667 | why can't you "use" nano? |
| 05:34.09 | craigevil | xandros>kanotix>pclinuxos>sidux>pure debian, did own a pc until 98 |
| 05:34.21 | krakrjak | I tinkered and failed to install NetBSD several times in the summer of 94-95 |
| 05:35.05 | Viking667 | craigevil: did, or didn't? |
| 05:35.14 | craigevil | didnt |
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| 05:35.31 | Viking667 | heh. I had an XT in 1990 |
| 05:35.56 | debiantonio | 8088-2 |
| 05:35.57 | voltagex | Viking667: because the system still warns against editing visudo with anything other than vi |
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| 05:36.26 | voltagex | WeisseWaschbaer: I have had success using nano -w /etc/sudoers |
| 05:36.29 | Viking667 | voltagex: ahhhh. Might be because of the file that vi is pointed to. |
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| 05:37.33 | WeisseWaschbaer | voltagex: I can use nano but I dislike it\ |
| 05:37.59 | Viking667 | heh. I can use practically every editor I've come across, except for TECO |
| 05:38.17 | Viking667 | ... mind you, ed's a bit awkward. |
| 05:38.51 | krakrjak | you can still copy and paste with ed |
| 05:38.56 | Viking667 | mmmm. |
| 05:39.23 | Viking667 | my problem with ed? I'm too used to being able to scan lines for what I want. |
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| 05:40.08 | krakrjak | me too. I don't compromise. I make sure vim's around. |
| 05:40.21 | Viking667 | mmmm. |
| 05:40.50 | Viking667 | the programs I install? vim, mc, ncftp, wget, a few others. |
| 05:40.53 | voltagex | I'm partial to scite :P |
| 05:41.04 | Viking667 | I never took to scite... |
| 05:41.15 | voltagex | Viking667: lftp is quite good too |
| 05:41.27 | Viking667 | probably is, I've never used it. |
| 05:41.48 | krakrjak | multitail is the hot new stuff here. combining log files into a single screen |
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| 05:41.58 | WeisseWaschbaer | ncftp stands for ncurses ftp? |
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| 05:42.17 | Viking667 | WeisseWaschbaer: I think so, yes |
| 05:42.33 | deadbeef | GUYS is there any way to install Java 7 through apt ? |
| 05:42.40 | WeisseWaschbaer | Viking667: sounds nice, i'll try it later |
| 05:42.46 | krakrjak | why? |
| 05:42.51 | krakrjak | haven't you seen the bug? |
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| 05:44.38 | deadbeef | i mean the sun version |
| 05:44.45 | deadbeef | *oracle |
| 05:44.59 | krakrjak | [general][WARNING] Index corruption and crashes in Apache Lucene Core / Apache Solr with Java 7 |
| 05:45.13 | krakrjak | It's in the Oracle release |
| 05:45.13 | deadbeef | yup but isn't that related only to openjdk = |
| 05:45.17 | deadbeef | aw |
| 05:45.19 | deadbeef | ugly |
| 05:45.21 | voltagex | oracle version has the bug too afaict |
| 05:45.26 | Viking667 | ugh. |
| 05:45.37 | deadbeef | i think i'll wait then |
| 05:45.40 | deadbeef | thanks for warning me |
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| 05:46.50 | krakrjak | They do know about it, but we don't know when there will be a fix. Probably update 2. |
| 05:47.07 | Viking667 | sigh. Guess I'd better not install javaSE7 myself |
| 05:47.08 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: heya bud :) |
| 05:47.15 | sixyearsofdreams | Some_Person: how it goes |
| 05:47.20 | Some_Person | hey sixyearsofdreams |
| 05:48.06 | Some_Person | Everything's fine here now. I changed the 54GL's IP to 192.168.1.1 to make things easier to manage, and now everything is fine |
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| 05:50.34 | Viking667 | sigh. |
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| 05:54.35 | Some_Person | thank you for helping me earlier |
| 05:55.15 | craigevil | openjdk-7-jre is in experimental, with the bugs it is probably still there for a reason and not in sid |
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| 06:28.52 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. I would like to find out if it's possible to load the reiserfs module during install automatically in a preseed file? |
| 06:28.57 | Pegasus_RPG | This is on Squeeze |
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| 06:29.19 | Pegasus_RPG | The idea being so I can then manually create partitions with ReiserFS as a choice |
| 06:31.45 | Pegasus_RPG | Searching the web turns up stuff like d-ipartman-reiserfs/optionsmultiselectbut I have no idea what the available options are |
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| 06:50.23 | pisnux | is it possible to install a debian system on a separate hdd while running it from another one? |
| 06:51.35 | pisnux | A fresh system, and there is no need to share any partitions |
| 06:51.47 | wols | yes. debootstrap |
| 06:51.47 | pisnux | between the disks |
| 06:53.45 | pisnux | wols: thakns |
| 06:53.48 | pisnux | *thanks |
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| 07:16.19 | OhLawd | damn quite as f*ck in here |
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| 07:16.37 | OhLawd | oh well |
| 07:16.40 | OhLawd | anyone who may be remotely interestedin botnets, should definately checkout this paste: http://pastebin.com/YrEygFKk (It is the CNC info and configuration for a large botnet, includes a link to binary files as well and sandbox logs). |
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| 07:19.33 | Webber22 | - IRC client sponsored by http://www.FakeMagazineCover.com (Your photo on mag cover) |
| 07:19.44 | Webber22 | oh wow lots of debian love here |
| 07:20.22 | sixyearsofdreams | i have a lenny webserver, when i upload a site i cant quite see it localy but pubicly its open, is there anything i can do about this ? |
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| 07:22.47 | bluesceada | hey anyone knows how i can install the complete openoffice without having to install all the components separately |
| 07:22.53 | bluesceada | the bundled package doesnt do that somehow |
| 07:23.05 | bluesceada | and core and common also don't |
| 07:23.39 | bluesceada | oh .. openoffice.org does xD |
| 07:25.26 | wols | sixyearsofdreams: what is the error message? |
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| 07:27.55 | sixyearsofdreams | wols: like host couuld not be found, but website can be accessed publicly |
| 07:28.05 | sixyearsofdreams | wols: just cant view publicly from another pc on the network |
| 07:28.45 | ompaul | sixyearsofdreams: is the "other pc" looking at the 192. or www. or external ip |
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| 07:44.09 | jokar | hello al |
| 07:44.12 | jokar | o/ all |
| 07:45.22 | Jiyuusenshi | thats a bad idea. here are over 1000 users. do you expect them to greet back? |
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| 07:48.38 | craigevil | bluesceada, aptitude install openoffice.org or libreoffice.org |
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| 07:49.11 | DarkEyes | is there a group install for compiling. ie: fresh install i need make and g++ c all that |
| 07:49.13 | bluesceada | craigevil: yeah have found that already, thanks .. i had libreoffice before, but it has to many rendering problems with impress ... |
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| 07:49.24 | tamiya | Hi guys |
| 07:49.36 | Guest02711 | DarkEyes: build essentials will give youmsot of what you want |
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| 07:50.07 | Internat | build-essential i mean |
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| 07:50.20 | DarkEyes | yes thats what i was look for thanks Internat |
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| 07:50.31 | nickSwe | I have a USB drive mounted to /home/storage/external/usb1, and now I want to backup everything on my system EXCEPT some folders. Should I utilize rsync for that purpose? |
| 07:50.45 | tamiya | How can I determine where my DNS client is pointed to? I don't seem to have an /etc/resolv.conf file. Runing Debian 6.0.2 |
| 07:50.53 | Internat | it brings in what is generally used to build debian packages, which is more then likely what you want |
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| 07:57.42 | tamiya | How can I determine where my DNS client is pointed to? I don't seem to have an /etc/resolv.conf file. Runing Debian 6.0.2 |
| 07:58.10 | tamiya | I've check /etc/networking/interfaces but DNS entry isn't there |
| 07:58.30 | wols | tamiya: nslookup google.de |
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| 07:59.26 | sixyearsofdreams | wols: the pc i am on im using 192 to access the website, so local ip of the server |
| 07:59.45 | sixyearsofdreams | wols: when i go http://192.168.0.11/site i cant view it |
| 07:59.51 | tamiya | Thanks, I can see now its pointed to localhost for DNS resolution. But where or how did I set it to 127.0.0.1 all those years ago? |
| 08:00.21 | sixyearsofdreams | wols: when you use public ip, internet ip, it works just fine, so i would like to edit the website so i have a hard time looking at finised site |
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| 08:02.19 | woshty | what packages do i need installed to run kde systemsettings? |
| 08:02.46 | sixyearsofdreams | woshty: should already recommend for you |
| 08:02.55 | sixyearsofdreams | woshty: search cache for kde systemsettings and apt-get install it |
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| 08:06.01 | woshty | lol .. it is called sysemsettings .. |
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| 08:23.51 | ws2k3 | hello people i am trying to install ftpd on my debian machine but when i run apt-get install ftpd i get this : http://pastebin.com/8bjq52Pm |
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| 08:25.54 | me-1 | is there anyway i can get gnome 3 for debian 6...??? |
| 08:26.26 | wols | !tell me-1 about gnome3 |
| 08:26.30 | kerframil | ws2k3: the netkit ftp server is archaic. consider using vsftpd or such. |
| 08:26.50 | wols | ws2k3: use vsftpd |
| 08:27.02 | ws2k3 | ok i shall try |
| 08:27.05 | wols | ws2k3: or better yet, do not use ftp at all |
| 08:27.28 | ws2k3 | wols i know but thats not a option for me now |
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| 08:27.41 | ws2k3 | i have my reasons for that |
| 08:28.07 | kerframil | besides which, ftp can be used with tls/ssl |
| 08:28.07 | ws2k3 | wols if i wish just one ftp user with a password that can upload and download some files should i use virtual users or just local ? |
| 08:28.14 | ws2k3 | i know |
| 08:28.29 | wols | ws2k3: you should use sftp then :) |
| 08:28.38 | wols | using scponly |
| 08:29.01 | wols | and I'd use virtual users probably if that user mustn't access the box in other ways (like ssh) |
| 08:29.13 | ws2k3 | nope only ftpd |
| 08:29.27 | ws2k3 | the client only support ftp no sftp |
| 08:30.10 | me-1 | wols, GNOME 3 is the new and not yet complete version of the GNOME desktop environment. Bits of it are starting to work their way into Debian unstable at the moment and wheezy will release with it. See http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html for details. Also ask me about <install gnome>. |
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| 08:30.57 | dspace | What do you mean, "not yet complete"? It was released as stable |
| 08:31.01 | kerframil | ws2k3: if you use a local user, make sure that the daemon constrains the user to the home directory and set /sbin/nologin as a shell. |
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| 08:35.22 | ws2k3 | i will use virtual |
| 08:35.33 | ws2k3 | besides the ftp server will be protected in the firewall |
| 08:35.39 | ws2k3 | only on ip is allowd to log in |
| 08:36.01 | ws2k3 | so its secure in 2 ways and a ftp password with virtual users and a firewall that allows only 1 ip to connect to it |
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| 09:09.24 | TCW | regarding the regulatory domain setting in mac80211 drivers with crda, how is the debian approach to set the local regulatory domain? I have one ath5k box and it is set to "AM" (Armenia?) even if I live in germany/europe. The packge crda does not provide any (good) documentation, nor do I see how it should be implemeted best. I've seen several solutions on the net, but all seem a bit hacky and unclean... |
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| 09:20.09 | craigevil | man crda and man regulatory.bin |
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| 09:26.59 | jsoft | Cant seem to install adblock plus :/ |
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| 09:30.23 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello again. Is it possible to load the reiserfs module during install automatically in a preseed.cfg file on Squeeze? Searching the web turns up stuff like d-i partman-reiserfs/options multiselect but I have no idea what that does or what the available options are. |
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| 09:46.04 | jsoft | So whats new? |
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| 09:58.08 | jokar | o/ all |
| 09:58.24 | jokar | excuse me can you guide me about reverse engineering? |
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| 10:05.33 | nevyn | jokar: easily twice as hard as good normal engineering? maybe 10 times |
| 10:06.03 | jokar | i want learning it |
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| 10:16.06 | chenthu | does anyone know where can i download my b43/ucode5.fw b43-open/ucode5.fw driver? |
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| 10:16.56 | th0r | chenthu: give me a bit and I can get them online for you |
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| 10:17.18 | kgoetz | try packages.debian.org, and search for those file names |
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| 10:18.20 | chenthu | th0r: bit?.... my broadcom wifi adaptor driver |
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| 10:18.42 | wols | b43 fwcutter. from the windows drivers using said fwcutter |
| 10:18.45 | chenthu | th0r: if thats what u ment |
| 10:19.32 | th0r | chenthu: no, I just meant give me a minute to open the public access share. Pick it up from here.... p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Odin/38mfvcn83 |
| 10:19.48 | chenthu | wols and th0r : i am currently installing my debian through usb after so much failure...i am tasting a bit of success...but while installing it is asking menon free driver b43/ucode5.fw b43-open/ucode5.fw |
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| 10:20.03 | chenthu | th0r : thnks will look at it |
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| 10:20.21 | th0r | chenthu: therre are two folders in that gz file, put them in /lib/firmware and it should solve the problem |
| 10:21.08 | th0r | chenthu: I think there is one command you need to run after copying those folders, check the readme in the gz file |
| 10:21.37 | chenthu | th0r : ok...will get back with the results.....thank you very much.... :) |
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| 10:22.00 | th0r | chenthu: I will be closing that share in ten minutes or so, fetch the file soon if you can |
| 10:22.23 | StyXman_ | does anyone know where do network-manager and/or nm-applet store the WPA passwords? |
| 10:22.24 | chenthu | th0r : ok...doing it asap |
| 10:23.24 | chenthu | th0r: its downloading... |
| 10:23.42 | chenthu | Th0r: thank you very much downloaded |
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| 10:24.30 | th0r | chenthu: np....there is a second gz inside the first. It contains the origiinal files I needed with fwcutter. But all fwcutter did was create those two folders and put them in /lib/firmware. Make sure you do the modprobe and add the module to /etc/modules per the readme |
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| 10:25.37 | chenthu | th0r: yeah will do that..but right now let my debian is getting installed... |
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| 10:26.32 | th0r | chenthu: the files you requested are in those two folders |
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| 10:29.08 | chenthu | th0r: there are two folders.. b43 and b43 legacy...do i have to copy both these folders and put it in /lib/firmware ? |
| 10:29.53 | th0r | chenthu: not sure if they are needed, but fwcutter put them both there so I figured I would let success rule |
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| 10:30.24 | th0r | chenthu: I think you only need b43, but they aren't that large. |
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| 10:30.50 | chenthu | th0r: lol..ok...i will copy b43...if doent work then the legacy one ... :) |
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| 10:33.32 | lord_rob | Hi ! If I want to run Joomla! on my Apache server, I have to give write permission in /var/www, right ? |
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| 10:34.32 | lord_rob | to develop with it I mean |
| 10:34.32 | nkuttler | lord_rob: ask joonla support. probably if you want to upload stuff etc |
| 10:34.44 | Debianuser | How can i Install: File Server, web server, and FTP Server. on Debian with desktop? |
| 10:34.47 | lord_rob | ok |
| 10:35.25 | wols | Debianuser: you run "tasksel" and select them |
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| 10:35.32 | th0r | chenthu: just noticed your initial request included b43-open. that folder wasn't created when I used fwcutter...so it might be a problem. |
| 10:35.54 | Debianuser | wols, How can i run tasksel? |
| 10:36.43 | nkuttler | Debianuser: how do you run any command? |
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| 10:37.53 | wols | Debianuser: how do you run any program? |
| 10:37.54 | Debianuser | ok,: "apt-get tasksel? |
| 10:38.01 | wols | no. just tasksel |
| 10:38.28 | chenthu | th0r: hmm....i jsut have to look at the results then....Debian is getting installed....and i am very excited about it....cause i ahve been trying to install ubunt for the past seven days....but all in vain... then from yesterday i treid to install debian...again with problems...but now figured a way with debian 6.0.1...let it get installed...and then i will be needing more help from u guys |
| 10:38.30 | Debianuser | ok thank, i have not used tasksel before |
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| 10:39.47 | chenthu | guys iwhich bootloader do i have to choose... i mean the best..... grub? or Lilo? |
| 10:39.57 | wols | chenthu: do you have ethernet available to get on the internet? |
| 10:40.04 | wols | chenthu: grub2 is default. use it |
| 10:40.11 | chenthu | wols: nope....only wifi inetrnet |
| 10:40.27 | chenthu | wols: thank you i have installed grub now.... :) |
| 10:41.14 | chenthu | wols: but i have a 3g data stick as well , which got drivers so i think would work |
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| 10:45.19 | chenthu | hurrah......i have a functional debian on my system..... thank you all for yor help....now let me start with the drivers |
| 10:48.12 | chenthu | does anyone know how to check for drivers? |
| 10:49.36 | wols | what do you mean "check"? |
| 10:49.59 | chenthu | wols: i meant , if all tghe drivers are available...like in windoes we go to device managers |
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| 10:50.44 | StyXman_ | chenthu: linux works the other way around |
| 10:50.53 | StyXman_ | the kernel (mostly) has all the available drivers |
| 10:50.55 | wols | no such place directly. you check what hardware you have (lspci, lsusb, lshw,...) and then check if linux uses this hardware you want (dmesg, Xorg.0.log, etc) |
| 10:50.56 | chenthu | StyXman_: ? |
| 10:51.05 | StyXman_ | and (mostly) are loaded as needed/at boot time |
| 10:51.40 | chenthu | StyXman_: ok...and the drivers get updated automatically? |
| 10:51.56 | chenthu | wols: ok will remmebr those command and google for tyhe topic |
| 10:52.00 | StyXman_ | chenthu: on each kernel update/upgrade |
| 10:52.27 | StyXman_ | if you automatize package update, then yes |
| 10:52.46 | chenthu | StyXman_: thank you.... |
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| 10:55.34 | chenthu | ok thank you all for the help...i have to logout to use my 3g stick on the linux system.....bye everyone...have a nice day... :) |
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| 11:00.22 | zulu7 | where to ask GPL related questions? |
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| 11:01.01 | grgpl0 | Hi! I was wondering if there are any sysadmins here with rack re-wiring expirence. |
| 11:01.14 | wols | grgpl0: and this is debian related how? |
| 11:01.31 | wols | zulu7: if it's debian related, on debian-legal maybe? |
| 11:02.01 | grgpl0 | wols: well I guess it isn't. But there debian servers and I wasn't sure of a better place to ask |
| 11:02.18 | wols | grgpl0: this is a debian support channel only. maybe ask in #networking or #hardware |
| 11:02.20 | war9407 | dpkg, pinning? |
| 11:02.20 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
| 11:02.33 | grgpl0 | wols: thanks! |
| 11:02.57 | zulu7 | wols, it's not Debian related but GNU/Linux in general |
| 11:03.07 | wols | ##linux then I guess |
| 11:03.17 | zulu7 | wols, thanks |
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| 11:04.27 | war9407 | anyone have any luck with pinning in the latest testing? it used to work 1-2 years ago, there is a nasty bug with e2fslibs in the latest -testing/sid and I want it to pin those packages down |
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| 11:07.18 | war9407 | nvm, got it. |
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| 11:09.44 | wols | !hold |
| 11:09.44 | dpkg | rumour has it, hold is a status flag that tells the package manager not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package: 'echo <package> hold|dpkg --set-selections'. It is also possible to use aptitude: 'aptitude hold <package>'. Note that the hold flag set using aptitude might be ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager and Synaptic), but aptitude will respect the hold set in the dpkg database. |
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| 11:21.52 | jimcooncat | how to read /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/README.Debian.gz using cli? I thought less could do it. |
| 11:22.24 | kgoetz | zless |
| 11:22.26 | kgoetz | or vim |
| 11:22.52 | jimcooncat | thanks kgoetz, zless worked |
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| 11:23.47 | kgoetz | jimcooncat: np |
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| 11:36.56 | Mirrakor | Can someone help me to convert my debian squeeze install to utf8? |
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| 11:37.28 | wols | !locale |
| 11:37.28 | dpkg | A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale |
| 11:37.35 | wols | !locales |
| 11:37.36 | dpkg | Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
| 11:37.40 | Mirrakor | (or point my to a guide - actually I thought squeeze should already use utf-8 but when I try to type umlauts in the console I get mixed results) |
| 11:37.46 | Smixx | hi guys |
| 11:38.18 | wols | Mirrakor: what does "locale" say? |
| 11:39.01 | Smixx | I've a problem with my debian setup... /boot is in lvm, lvm is in raid. lilo does not boot the kernel with error: "no active partition found". |
| 11:39.05 | Mirrakor | wols: thanks for taking an interest: locale says that everything is set to de_DE.UTF-8 (which is what I selected in locale-gen |
| 11:39.19 | Smixx | Could you please help me.... |
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| 11:39.59 | Smixx | Previously the setup worked. |
| 11:40.37 | Smixx | lvm is directly written to the hdd. with no partitions on it. |
| 11:41.11 | wols | which programs give you problems with umlauts? |
| 11:41.43 | Mirrakor | wols: the standard console, especially screen and also irssi (I guess in the end all programs are affected - don't know if it's just a font issue or not) |
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| 11:42.04 | wols | irssi and bäsh run fine here |
| 11:42.19 | Mirrakor | wols: on the console I have to type an umlaut and press space to make it appear |
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| 11:42.31 | wols | you are using ssh or putty? |
| 11:42.38 | Mirrakor | wols: ssh |
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| 11:42.53 | wols | I think it's your ssh client not using proper utf |
| 11:43.07 | wols | I had the same problem when using putty |
| 11:43.43 | Mirrakor | wols: h.. I'm not suree, I can type umlauts on my client machine just fine (and that's how I want it on the squeeze too :D) |
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| 11:44.30 | wols | Mirrakor: can you go to the console of your debian box directly and try? |
| 11:44.52 | Mirrakor | wols: no sorry, it's a headless server |
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| 11:47.47 | Mirrakor | wols: I think that was a good pointer, my locale system is using LC_ALL=POSIX ... |
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| 11:49.19 | Ichigo | Does this package exist? http://packages.debian.org/sid/dovecot-sieve apt-get says it can't find the package. |
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| 11:51.26 | zulu7 | Ichigo, of course it does |
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| 11:51.54 | Ichigo | zulu7, How do I install it then? |
| 11:51.55 | upsy | judd: versions dovecot-sieve |
| 11:51.56 | judd | Package dovecot-sieve on i386 -- sid: 1:2.0.13-1.1; wheezy: 1:2.0.13-1.1 |
| 11:52.24 | Ichigo | "Unable to locate package dovecot-sieve" |
| 11:52.35 | zulu7 | I don't know how you configures your sources.list, I use unstable i386 |
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| 11:53.49 | zulu7 | Ichigo, the package is not in stable http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=dovecot-sieve |
| 11:54.06 | Ichigo | zulu7, Yeah, I just noticed that. |
| 11:54.11 | Ichigo | That explains it then. |
| 11:54.52 | tjansson | I am about to install debian 64bit on a EFI mainboard (Zotac H67ITX-C-E) can the normal installer handle this? |
| 11:55.09 | zulu7 | Ichigo, I am wondering why you are looking for packages in unstable when you are actually using stable |
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| 11:56.44 | Mirrakor | hm ... |
| 11:56.49 | Mirrakor | I give up :/ |
| 11:57.00 | zulu7 | Ichigo, install the program surfraw and then look up packages using the command "sr debpackages <package name>" |
| 11:57.48 | craigevil | add surfraw to your bash.rc, then you dont need the sr part |
| 11:58.49 | ompaul | tjansson: no idea about that board but I have it installed on my laptop which has efi ... and it worked |
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| 12:00.05 | tjansson | ompaul: Okay - so you just used the normal installed and that did the trick? Did you have to do something out of the ordinary to make it work or was it just automagical? |
| 12:00.45 | ompaul | automagic the whole way |
| 12:01.09 | ompaul | tjansson: as it is a sandybridge it had to be testing |
| 12:01.20 | ompaul | or newer |
| 12:02.06 | tjansson | hmm okay - then my netinstall stable won't do the trick :) |
| 12:02.17 | tjansson | I'll get at testing at get going |
| 12:02.18 | tjansson | thanks |
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| 12:03.08 | craigevil | zulu7, surfraw-update-path -add , then you only need the name of the elvi you want to search with, like debbugs, debwiki, debpackages, duckduckgo, etc |
| 12:03.35 | markit | hi, I'm doing a full upgrade of sid, and bugslist tells me there is a problem with "dnet-common". I've put it on HOLD, but it still wants to install it... what am I donig wrong? (aptitude hold dnet-common) |
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| 12:04.47 | craigevil | how did you put it on hold, what app are you using to upgrade? |
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| 12:08.46 | markit | craigevil: I' using aptitude |
| 12:09.13 | markit | craigevil: and I put on hold like I wrote before, aptitude hold dnet-common |
| 12:09.32 | markit | strange but aptitude search ~ahold or aptitude search ~i|grep ^ih does not show hold packages |
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| 12:09.58 | markit | maybe is hold mechanism that is broken |
| 12:10.18 | craigevil | try doing echo dnet-common|dpkg --set-selections |
| 12:10.43 | craigevil | whoops try that again>echo dnet-common hold|dpkg --set-selections |
| 12:10.44 | Smixx | Hi can some tell me how to do a grub2 /boot in lvm setup? |
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| 12:11.57 | craigevil | Smixx, the installer should create /boot when you choose to use lvm not much to it |
| 12:13.12 | Smixx | craigeviI already installed with lilo. And lilo is not booting anymore.... So I want to migrate to grub2 |
| 12:14.18 | markit | craigevil: if I hold "man2dvd" it works, with dnet-common not, maybe because man2dvd is installed while dnet-common not? |
| 12:14.49 | markit | all I want to do is install the 231 packages that need to be upgraded skippint that one that is broken, sigh |
| 12:15.08 | craigevil | could be, find out what is pulling in dnet-common and hold it |
| 12:15.33 | craigevil | its not installed here fully upgraded sid using kde |
| 12:16.28 | craigevil | The following packages have been kept back:gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded |
| 12:16.58 | markit | craigevil: how can I tell what is pulling dnst-common? |
| 12:17.39 | craigevil | apt-cache depends dnet-common |
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| 12:17.57 | smhar | I have a problem, by mistake I have overwritten a file with a file with the same name, is there a way to recover this? where is undo when you really need it :-( |
| 12:18.15 | markit | craigevil: thanks a lot, I take note of this useful tip |
| 12:19.23 | craigevil | there are only two packages on that output that i dont have installed, modutils and dnprogs , so i am betting it is on of those two |
| 12:19.34 | craigevil | s/on/one |
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| 12:20.00 | Phleagor | hi. I'm trying to install "debain 6.0.2.1 i386 netinst" on a laptop without a cd-drive. so i made a bootable USB-drive and booting it works fine but in the installer always checks the cd drive for the installation data. even trying to mount /dev/sdb1 (the usb drive) on /cdrom didn't work (mount says "invalid argument") |
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| 12:20.10 | Phleagor | is the cd drive hardcoded in the installer? |
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| 12:24.42 | Phleagor | even deleting /dev/cdrom and creating a link to /dev/sdb1 doesn't work :( |
| 12:24.57 | craigevil | Phleagor, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 |
| 12:27.01 | markit | craigevil: holding debconf did the trick, thanks a lot for your help, I've to leave now, reboot coming :) |
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| 12:29.20 | smhar | I have a problem, by mistake I have overwritten a file with a file with the same name, is there a way to recover this? where is undo when you really need it :-( |
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| 12:29.55 | smhar | this is an ext4 fs |
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| 12:34.43 | Phleagor | craigevil: that just explains how to create the boot-stick. i did that. the problem ist that the debian installer wants a cd |
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| 12:37.34 | Phleagor | me? o.O |
| 12:37.48 | Phleagor | oh, you forgot the / :) |
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| 12:44.59 | thomasfedb | Hi, are there any kernels newer that 2.6.32 that I can use with Debain? 2.6.33 at least would be good, but 2.6.40/3.0 would be even nicer. |
| 12:45.25 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: at backports.org |
| 12:46.15 | pzn | is there any way to mount an ext3 partition as case insensitive? |
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| 12:46.53 | ompaul | !backports |
| 12:46.53 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>, <volatile>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 12:47.42 | ompaul | pzn: rewrite all file handling facilities? |
| 12:48.18 | ompaul | I != i and never will |
| 12:48.35 | ompaul | but you personally can ignore it with some significant rewrites |
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| 12:49.44 | valdyn_ | im sure theres a reasonable solution to whatever actual problem seems to demand for mounting ext3 case insensitive |
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| 12:50.29 | ompaul | pzn: as valdyn_ says - can you elaborate on why you want this |
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| 12:55.02 | Phleagor | ok guys, I made it work by replacing the install.386/vmlinuz and install.386/initrd.gz with the ones in http://cdimage.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian6.0.2/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ and copying the .iso of the netinst on the drive. this is not the way the manual says but it is even better as i can use the whole USB drive and can use it with ext3 instead of fat16 |
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| 12:55.34 | Phleagor | this may be added somewhere as it is absolutely non-trivial |
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| 13:05.31 | sm1 | I'm getting , http://paste.debian.net/124581/ .. just can't figure out whats going on. |
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| 13:07.37 | themill | sm1: this is looking more like a local network (http proxy?) problem than a problem with the repos themselves |
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| 13:08.40 | timo | sm1: did you install the debian-multimedia-keyring package ? http://debian-multimedia.org/faq.php#q1 |
| 13:09.06 | thomasfedb | valdyn_, ok, thanks |
| 13:09.25 | sm1 | themill: :-) , well .. am using tor. |
| 13:09.33 | mads- | Say I want to recursively delete all the *.avi files which are bigger than 100 MB from a given directory, how would I go about doing that? Can I do it in commandline only or do I need some bash script? |
| 13:09.45 | sm1 | timo: no , i haven't. should i ..! |
| 13:09.54 | kgoetz | the command line is a bash script :p |
| 13:10.17 | timo | sm1: i believe you should |
| 13:10.17 | thomasfedb | valdyn_, did you mean http://backports-master.debian.org/ ? |
| 13:10.40 | mads- | kgoetz, yeah, but a certain point it becomes unreasonable to use commandline only |
| 13:10.51 | sm1 | timo: will do , thnx buddy. |
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| 13:11.01 | kgoetz | mads-: find , potentially xargs and then rm should be all you'll need |
| 13:11.03 | themill | mads-: find can do that for you in one hit |
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| 13:12.09 | aminpy | how can I create tar.gz file from a folder/ ? |
| 13:12.50 | epsilon | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.58 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: yes |
| 13:13.39 | mads- | themill and kgoetz : How do I do the part with "if bigger than 100MB"? |
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| 13:14.18 | epsilon | mads-: find can it |
| 13:14.21 | thomasfedb | valdyn_, I couldn't find the kernel there, does backports include kernels? |
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| 13:14.23 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: but.. appearantly theres no backported kernel |
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| 13:14.35 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: they do, but i cant see one for squeeze |
| 13:14.52 | thomasfedb | valdyn_, great. Any other places that compile kernels for debian? |
| 13:15.08 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: you can try a kernel from wheezy |
| 13:15.26 | kgoetz | mads-: man find -> /size -> read :) |
| 13:15.31 | thomasfedb | valdyn_, hmmm. sounds a tad risky. I'm running debian for a reason! |
| 13:15.54 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: using a kernel from *elsewhere* doesnt make it better than one from wheezy |
| 13:16.01 | kerframil | mads-: something like this: find -name "*.avi" -size +100M -exec rm '{}' \; |
| 13:16.42 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: if theres none in backports theres probably none that gets decent exposure but the ones from wheezy or sid |
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| 13:16.59 | themill | wonders why man find doesn't mention + for -size. |
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| 13:17.20 | thomasfedb | valdyn_, ok, thanks. How significantly different is wheezy? |
| 13:17.43 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: nono, dont use wheezy |
| 13:17.46 | kerframil | themill: I put it down to GNU's retarded policy on man pages (they think they're bad) |
| 13:17.56 | kerframil | themill: so you can only really rely on info |
| 13:17.57 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: im talking only about the kernel, *nothing* else |
| 13:18.10 | kerframil | themill: which sucks |
| 13:18.33 | thomasfedb | valdyn_, i know what you mean, but is the kernel from wheezy truly drop-in-and-everything-is-happy? |
| 13:18.51 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: depends more on the kernel than on wheezy |
| 13:18.58 | themill | ,kernels --release squeeze-backports |
| 13:19.00 | judd | Available kernel versions are: squeeze-backports: 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 (2.6.38-5~bpo60+1) |
| 13:19.07 | themill | valdyn_, thomasfedb: ^^ |
| 13:19.10 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: wow |
| 13:19.22 | valdyn_ | themill: nice, just why didnt i see that one at backports |
| 13:19.29 | thomasfedb | judd, link? (ps: thanks) |
| 13:20.08 | themill | thomasfedb: "aptitude install linux-image-2.6.38-bpo.2-686" |
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| 13:20.26 | Serjs | hi guys |
| 13:20.32 | thomasfedb | themill, thanks. |
| 13:20.47 | Serjs | anyone know how to correct load modules at system boot? |
| 13:20.59 | wols | Serjs: correct how? |
| 13:21.06 | Serjs | i need to autoload nf_conntrack and ip_conntrack |
| 13:21.06 | valdyn_ | thomasfedb: appearantly the search engine on backports is somewhat broken |
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| 13:21.19 | kerframil | Serjs: they should be loaded on demand |
| 13:21.29 | thomasfedb | Does anybody know if the btrfs-tools package in squeeze contain the new 'btrfs' command? I don't have a system handy. |
| 13:21.44 | wols | thomasfedb: packages.debian.org knows |
| 13:21.58 | Serjs | hm |
| 13:22.04 | thomasfedb | wols, thanks. |
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| 13:23.28 | themill | valdyn_: not quite broken, just that it doesn't like giving you pages with too many search results, unfortunately. |
| 13:23.45 | themill | valdyn_: (but yes, that's exactly why judd has that kernels command) |
| 13:23.56 | valdyn_ | themill: which seems to make it useless unless you search for a specific kernel version |
| 13:24.16 | valdyn_ | yea |
| 13:24.36 | themill | valdyn_: yeah, because there's hundreds of different kernel packages with arch names in them |
| 13:27.52 | themill | valdyn_: actually, there is something wrong with it -- there actually are only 5 results by the time the limitations are applied, but it doesn't show them to you. (packages.d.o used to get very bogged down by searches so this might be why this was done) |
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| 13:28.17 | valdyn_ | themill: yes |
| 13:28.30 | valdyn_ | themill: what works is putting the arch name in the search string |
| 13:28.41 | valdyn_ | themill: ( instead of using the arch links listed below ) |
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| 13:29.34 | Guest93746 | How can i install webmin on debian, |
| 13:29.37 | themill | valdyn_: s/arch name/kernel optimisation type/, I presume (e.g. you mean 686 not i386; you're just adding that to the package name search) |
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| 13:30.03 | valdyn_ | themill: yea, not the debian arch |
| 13:30.16 | Guest93746 | i have downloaded webmin, but i cant find the downloaded file |
| 13:30.23 | themill | valdyn_: feel like reporting that? it would be nice to have that fixed.... :) |
| 13:30.44 | kgoetz | Guest93746: its saving you from yourself |
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| 13:30.46 | themill | Guest93746: you're unlikely to find people willing to help you install webmin. |
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| 13:31.16 | chenthu | hey guys...i just installed my debian..... but i installed a 32 bit system on a 64 bit machine, cause of problems with usb booting installer....but now i wanna migrate to 64bit....i found this link --->http://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit an now needs help ans opinion.... |
| 13:31.27 | themill | !kgoetz++ |
| 13:31.30 | Guest93746 | themill: WHY??? |
| 13:31.38 | valdyn_ | themill: file against which "package" in the bts? |
| 13:31.38 | themill | dpkg: tell Guest93746 about webmin |
| 13:32.16 | themill | valdyn_: istr there is a www.debian.org pseudopackage, but at the bottom of the page they say to report things to the mailing list. |
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| 13:33.07 | Guest93746 | dpkg: themill says you can help me with webmin |
| 13:33.07 | dpkg | Guest93746: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 13:33.16 | chenthu | how to install a 64-bit kerenel on 32-bit debian? |
| 13:33.59 | kgoetz | chenthu: if you want 64 bit, you should install it. not try and magic it into place (that way there be dragons) |
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| 13:34.18 | daemonkeeper | Guest93746: Type /msg dpkg webmin |
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| 13:45.48 | chenthu | am i still here?...can u people read me? |
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| 13:46.07 | valdyn_ | chenthu: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 13:46.59 | valdyn_ | chenthu: 32-bit userspace on 64-bit kernel should just work fine. |
| 13:47.02 | wols | chenthu: you cannot migrate to 64bit and you won't get support for it here at all |
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| 13:47.43 | jokar1 | can i compile win32 asm file with nasm |
| 13:48.18 | gkwhc | Hi, if i have a script i want to run at boot, can I just put it in rc5.d? do i need to update anything? i tried doing so but there are no effects of the script |
| 13:48.41 | wols | gkwhc: runlevel 5 isn't used by debian normally |
| 13:49.08 | wols | jokar1: depends on the file, but unlikely |
| 13:49.16 | gkwhc | wols: ah i meant rc[runlevel].d :) |
| 13:49.28 | jokar1 | o/ wols: why? |
| 13:49.43 | jokar1 | asm file is depended on OS? |
| 13:49.44 | wols | gkwhc: don't. put it in /etc/init.d/ and symlink it |
| 13:49.59 | wols | jokar1: yes and no. the same way a .c file depends on the OS |
| 13:50.14 | wols | jokar1: as I told you: it depends what is in that .asm file |
| 13:50.21 | gkwhc | wols: do i need to do update-rc.d? |
| 13:50.37 | wols | gkwhc: you don't need. how you symlink it is your own business |
| 13:50.49 | wols | !tell gkwhc about rc.local |
| 13:51.02 | jokar1 | o/ wols:can you show me a script file for auto mount ntfs partition? |
| 13:51.37 | ompaul | script and auto mount are exclusive |
| 13:51.43 | wols | jokar1: man fstab. /msg dpkg ntfsrw there is no script for it |
| 13:52.08 | gkwhc | wols: ah okay ill look into it |
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| 13:52.08 | jokar1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.12 | gkwhc | thanks |
| 13:52.18 | ompaul | no preceding spaces |
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| 13:53.29 | Ichigo | Anyone have any idea why when using Sieve with Dovecot on Debian, I cannot use the imap4flags directive? |
| 13:53.42 | Ichigo | sieve: imap4flags: file not found |
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| 13:53.52 | omid | hi . i've just installed debian.but my wireless is not working .model : Intel(R) WiFi Link 1000 BGN |
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| 13:54.07 | valdyn_ | omid: firmware is installed? |
| 13:54.11 | Ichigo | fileinto loads just fine, but for some reason imap4flags and imapflags seem to simply not exist. |
| 13:54.14 | omid | lsmod resaults : http://paste.kde.org/103675/03373713/ |
| 13:54.17 | jokar1 | i know ntfs-3g but in opensuse Windows partition is auto mount |
| 13:54.30 | valdyn_ | omid: dmesg will show if youre missing the firmware |
| 13:54.31 | wols | jokar1: man fstab |
| 13:54.35 | themill | dpkg: tell omid about iwlagn |
| 13:54.40 | omid | http://paste.kde.org/103669/13120335/ |
| 13:55.26 | Ichigo | Good lord. This is becoming extremely tedious. |
| 13:55.32 | Ichigo | I'll just try and recompile the whole thing again |
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| 13:56.30 | jokar1 | thanks Wols |
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| 13:57.14 | eagles0513875 | hey guys i have an external hdd and for some blessed reason it wants to use the mount point of my cdrom device |
| 13:57.18 | eagles0513875 | how can i change its mount point |
| 13:57.32 | themill | omid: in the absence of details as to how it doesn't work, I'll take a guess that you don't have the firmware-iwlwifi package installed |
| 13:57.41 | wols | eagles0513875: depends how it is mounted and by what |
| 13:57.55 | ompaul | Ichigo: you seen ssb as a factoid it might help /msg dpkg ssb |
| 13:58.03 | chenthu | valdyn_: thank you...its that easy?... |
| 13:58.08 | eagles0513875 | wols: all i did was plug it in to usb and it seems to have automatically assigned the ountpoint |
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| 13:58.12 | eagles0513875 | mountpoint* |
| 13:58.23 | ikonia | eagles0513875: you sure it's actually the usb drive it's mounted |
| 13:58.34 | ikonia | eagles0513875: any chance we can see the output of "mount" in a pastebin please ? |
| 13:58.35 | valdyn_ | chenthu: yes, if I didnt mix up the package names, try and see |
| 13:58.46 | chenthu | wols: http://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit....it says this can be done...and it is on the official wiki |
| 13:59.01 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: its not showing up in mount |
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| 13:59.06 | eagles0513875 | unless its showing up as the cd drive |
| 13:59.16 | eagles0513875 | but according to gparted the mount point for it is /media/cdrom0 |
| 13:59.31 | ikonia | eagles0513875: do you have a cdrom in the drive ? |
| 13:59.35 | eagles0513875 | yes |
| 13:59.39 | ikonia | eagles0513875: eject it |
| 13:59.49 | eagles0513875 | but why would an external hdd use the same mount point as a cdrom |
| 13:59.58 | ikonia | eagles0513875: eject it, see what happens ? |
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| 14:00.09 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: empty drive now |
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| 14:00.27 | ikonia | eagles0513875: is there still a mount point in /media ? |
| 14:00.28 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: http://pastebin.com/8dkmh3kZ |
| 14:00.30 | psiklops | what do i have to edit to give user permission to open /dev/ttyUSB0 ... (UMTS-USB-stick ( $ wvdial --config .wvdial.conf = Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: Permission denied )) ? |
| 14:00.59 | ikonia | eagles0513875: why did you paste that ? what did you do to create that ? |
| 14:01.00 | wols | psiklops: what are the permissions of /dev/ttyUSB0 ? |
| 14:01.16 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: i double clicked on the drive in the file browser to try and open it |
| 14:01.24 | eagles0513875 | its an ntfs formatted drive im not sure if that would make any difference |
| 14:01.27 | chenthu | valdyn_: i did try but i got a no cnadidate error...so let me download the image first |
| 14:01.33 | psiklops | wols: crw-rw---- |
| 14:01.34 | eagles0513875 | and media is showing cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 |
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| 14:01.40 | themill | chenthu: just because it's on the wiki doesn't make it a good idea to try it. You'll notice that the page describes the process as "ugly" several times. You'd be better of reinstalling that following that procedure. |
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| 14:01.47 | ikonia | eagles0513875: well, it can't mount it, so that's why it's not showing up |
| 14:01.54 | ikonia | eagles0513875: do you mean the icon is the cdrom icon ? |
| 14:01.57 | wols | petemc: there is more than that |
| 14:02.06 | valdyn_ | themill: he only asked to install an amd64 *kernel* |
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| 14:02.12 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: no its a hard disk icon |
| 14:02.14 | psiklops | wols: crw-rw---- 1 ROOT DIALOUT 188 |
| 14:02.24 | ikonia | eagles0513875: so where is it showing as a cdrom mount ? |
| 14:02.28 | valdyn_ | themill: did I miss that he wants to transform the whole system? |
| 14:02.28 | wols | psiklops: so add your uesr to the dialout group |
| 14:02.38 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: in gparted |
| 14:02.43 | wols | psiklops: and learn to paste properly. there is no "ROOT" there |
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| 14:03.02 | themill | wols: «.but now i wanna migrate to 64bit....» make of that what you will. nfc. |
| 14:03.04 | psiklops | wols: ah, thats simple ;-) thanx yeah, pressed the caps lock |
| 14:03.24 | wols | themill: hm? |
| 14:03.42 | ikonia | eagles0513875: so the issue isn't actually the OS mounting it, it's gparted suggesting a mount point for it |
| 14:03.54 | ikonia | eagles0513875: as the OS hasn't actually mounted it, that seems to make sense to me |
| 14:03.54 | chenthu | themill: i dont have an option cause i am not able to install a 64bit using a usb....get cd error problems |
| 14:03.56 | themill | wols: his original question was «.but now i wanna migrate to 64bit....». Later he talked about 64 bit kernels. |
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| 14:04.08 | valdyn_ | chenthu: no, then its the wrong package name, let me look it up |
| 14:04.32 | chenthu | valdyn_: i got the correct package |
| 14:04.37 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: ok and gparted though when i tell it to mount the only mountpoint that is available is the mount point of the cdrom drive |
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| 14:04.59 | ikonia | eagles0513875: have you got all the NTFS stuff installed ? |
| 14:05.02 | chenthu | valdyn_: but the size is just 4.2 kb is it the right pacage i am downloading |
| 14:05.15 | ikonia | eagles0513875: I'm wondering if it thinks it's a cdrom as it can't actually read it |
| 14:05.19 | wols | chenthu: it's a metapackage. you need to use apt-get to install it |
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| 14:05.25 | valdyn_ | chenthu: youre doing that the wrong way |
| 14:05.31 | valdyn_ | chenthu: what wols said |
| 14:05.33 | ikonia | eagles0513875: pastebin the output of fdisk -l please |
| 14:05.40 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: that might be what im missing ntfs3g is it |
| 14:06.04 | chenthu | wols: ok...so i should apt-get and then? |
| 14:06.08 | valdyn_ | linux-image-2.6-amd64 exists |
| 14:06.08 | chenthu | wols: file name? |
| 14:06.12 | joe6 | i am running a binary installer and it says " installer needs root privileges ..." . I am wondering if there is any way to simulate root env? |
| 14:06.14 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: ntfs-3g is already installed |
| 14:06.17 | wols | chenthu: what valdyn_ said |
| 14:06.18 | ikonia | eagles0513875: pastebin the output of fdisk -l please |
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| 14:06.35 | wols | chenthu: and are you soure your apt is configured properly and works? |
| 14:06.35 | joe6 | i am not sure what it does, so I do not want to give the installer root privileges. |
| 14:06.41 | chenthu | wols: ok...will try and post the result |
| 14:06.55 | wols | joe6: virtual machine |
| 14:06.59 | chenthu | wols: no idea how to check if it is correctly configured |
| 14:07.05 | wols | joe6: not perfect but as perfect how it gets |
| 14:07.09 | wols | *as it |
| 14:07.22 | joe6 | wols, ok, will check it. |
| 14:07.24 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: http://pastebin.com/sAcQ7get |
| 14:07.30 | chenthu | wols: can you tell me how to check if my apt is rightly comfigured? |
| 14:07.54 | ikonia | eagles0513875: ok, so that's good, it can see the disk and partition table |
| 14:08.02 | wols | chenthu: just try to install that kernel |
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| 14:08.10 | joe6 | wols, virtualbox? |
| 14:08.14 | chenthu | wols: ok...will try and post the result |
| 14:08.23 | ikonia | eagles0513875: try mounting it manually as there is a problem either with a.) the process Debian is trying to use to mount it b.) the device/filesystem topping the correct process from executing |
| 14:08.31 | Ichigo | ompaul, But that would basically be admitting there's a problem with the current repo.. no..? |
| 14:08.36 | wols | joe6: for example, yes |
| 14:08.57 | joe6 | wols, what do you use? |
| 14:09.12 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: tried mounting and its saying its mounted on cdrom0 already |
| 14:09.25 | eagles0513875 | and its working |
| 14:09.29 | eagles0513875 | but that mount point isnt right |
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| 14:09.34 | ikonia | eagles0513875: not it would appear not |
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| 14:09.47 | ikonia | but at least it's mounted correctly through fuse |
| 14:09.49 | eagles0513875 | ya |
| 14:09.56 | ikonia | eagles0513875: can you please show me the output of the command mount please |
| 14:10.15 | ikonia | do it as the your user, not eagles |
| 14:10.17 | ikonia | not root sorry |
| 14:10.26 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: i didnt even setup root |
| 14:10.36 | ikonia | lets have a look at the ouptut of mount htne |
| 14:10.38 | ikonia | then |
| 14:10.44 | eagles0513875 | http://pastebin.com/BptXhpin |
| 14:11.15 | ikonia | eagles0513875: ok, so it does show up in mount |
| 14:11.23 | ikonia | and it is mounted using fuse correctly, so that's mostly good |
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| 14:11.25 | eagles0513875 | correct |
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| 14:11.50 | ikonia | sorry, I missunderstood, I thought you said it didn't show up in mount |
| 14:12.08 | chenthu | wols: i get this error... http://paste.debian.net/124587/ ...does it mean apt is not configured....cause this even happend when i tried to get firefox |
| 14:12.34 | wols | chenthu: pastebin your sources.list |
| 14:12.56 | chenthu | wols where to find my source.list? |
| 14:12.56 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: before it wasnt mounted cuz i had a cd in the drive so it was showing the normal drive |
| 14:13.14 | eagles0513875 | now that the drive doenst have anything in it and the hard disk is mounted now its showing up correctly |
| 14:13.15 | ikonia | eagles0513875: can you unmount it ? |
| 14:13.24 | eagles0513875 | let me try |
| 14:13.32 | chenthu | wols: how to find my souce.list? |
| 14:13.49 | wols | chenthu: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:14.22 | eagles0513875 | yep it unmounts |
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| 14:15.22 | chenthu | wols: when i opened source.list with gedit, it had only these lines... @ deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot i386 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20110324-09:22]/ squeeze main@ |
| 14:15.29 | ikonia | eagles0513875: I'm wondering if hal's just got confused/glitched |
| 14:15.42 | eagles0513875 | this is a brand spanking clean install of squeeze from this morning |
| 14:15.56 | ikonia | doesn't mean it's not glitched |
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| 14:16.04 | wols | !tell chenthu about squeeze sources.list |
| 14:16.06 | eagles0513875 | its totally possible |
| 14:16.15 | ikonia | I can't see another reason for it to think it's a cdrom |
| 14:16.30 | eagles0513875 | i concur with u hal is probably glytched |
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| 14:16.43 | ikonia | reboot the box, try it again |
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| 14:16.50 | ikonia | be interesting to see if it is reproducable |
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| 14:17.42 | eagles0513875 | ya also another 2 issues im having is nautilus seems to hang as well but when i issue killall nautilus it unfreezes things |
| 14:17.47 | ompaul | eagles0513875: what chipset is in that box? (how new is it) |
| 14:17.49 | eagles0513875 | freezes in the sense i cant click other irc channels etc |
| 14:17.53 | shirish | hi all, does anybody of any good links of 'Bruce Perens' motivations to write the Debian social contract. |
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| 14:17.55 | Ichigo | Sieve on debian seems to be missing imap4flags. |
| 14:18.00 | shirish | the wikipedia page does not give much :( |
| 14:18.06 | eagles0513875 | ompaul: its core2 quad 3 yrs old but mobo had been replaced and its an intel chipset |
| 14:18.10 | Ichigo | I can't think or some to any other conclusion then that there's a problem with the debian repo itself |
| 14:18.23 | debian1223358 | Why is Webmin unsafe? |
| 14:18.26 | ompaul | eagles0513875: it won't be sandybridge problems then :) |
| 14:18.33 | eagles0513875 | as well im having a mouse glytch as well it freezes and stays moving abck and forth on the screen and clicking and opening stuff and closing apps etc |
| 14:18.56 | eagles0513875 | gonna give the system a reboot and give kde a shot see what its like here |
| 14:18.58 | eagles0513875 | i wont be gone long |
| 14:19.03 | Ichigo | Should I just go ahead and report this as a bug then? |
| 14:19.15 | ikonia | eagles0513875: just try a reboot first |
| 14:19.17 | ompaul | debian1223358: go /msg dpkg webmin and have fun reading it |
| 14:19.18 | ikonia | eagles0513875: I'd like to see if the CDRom issue is reproducable |
| 14:19.34 | eagles0513875 | ok |
| 14:19.35 | eagles0513875 | brb |
| 14:20.19 | Ichigo | I guess so then. |
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| 14:20.50 | debian1223358 | ompaul |
| 14:21.09 | debian1223358 | what its fun with that? |
| 14:21.20 | coldpep | hi, whats with the manpage of debuild? the example says "debuild -i -us -uc -b" but none of these one character options are listed.. could someone translate the ones in the example for me, please? |
| 14:22.34 | ompaul | wow I can't answer if you don't hang around |
| 14:23.00 | coldpep | oh apparently its command line arguments used by dpkg-buildpackage(1) .. stupid me. bye |
| 14:23.04 | wols | relax. he did you a favour |
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| 14:23.18 | ompaul | wols: I'm in the fridge :) |
| 14:23.23 | chenthu | wols: i even after editing the two source point in the source file i am getting the same error |
| 14:23.27 | Ichigo | ompaul, So your saying I'm going to have to get another build of Dovecot to get this to work then I guess? |
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| 14:23.43 | wols | chenthu: pastebin your sources.list |
| 14:23.50 | Ichigo | This is rather stupidly frustrating. |
| 14:24.00 | chenthu | wols: ok |
| 14:24.01 | Ichigo | I'm beginning to think compiling dovecot manually would be easier. |
| 14:24.06 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: same issue |
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| 14:24.24 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: the only way im able mount it is via gparted if i double click on the drive icon in the file manager it fails to mount |
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| 14:24.49 | eagles0513875 | once its mounted via gparted then i can access the drive via file manager |
| 14:24.51 | wols | gparted mounts anything? |
| 14:24.52 | ompaul | Ichigo: I think so, from what you have said so far if you want to get stuff that is not in the current you can do it that way or try other stuff, but the idea of building partial packages ... well you have to manage all the security aspects rather than allowing security.debian.org to mind most of your headaches |
| 14:25.04 | craigevil | eagles0513875, make sure there is no cdrom entry in your fstab |
| 14:25.15 | ikonia | yes, lets have a look at the fstab |
| 14:25.16 | eagles0513875 | wols: seems to be mounting my xternal hdd to the cdrom0 mountpoint |
| 14:25.17 | eagles0513875 | ok |
| 14:25.18 | ikonia | that was my next query |
| 14:25.57 | Ichigo | ompaul, This is a basic function that has no reason not to be included though |
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| 14:26.04 | Ichigo | You'd literally have to go in and manually remove it |
| 14:26.10 | eagles0513875 | http://pastebin.com/gqF4nUMD ikonia |
| 14:26.11 | Ichigo | Why on earth would someone do that? |
| 14:26.12 | eagles0513875 | there is the problem |
| 14:26.22 | eagles0513875 | but why on earth would it set it in fstab to use the cdrom to begin with |
| 14:26.32 | ikonia | eagles0513875: there is you go |
| 14:26.40 | Ichigo | and for what purpose? I don't understand other then just to give people massive headaches |
| 14:26.54 | eagles0513875 | wouldnt this be still an issue with hal ikonia |
| 14:27.04 | shirish | does anybody of a good resource of the motivation of Bruce Perens when the Debian social contract were designed (circa 1997) . |
| 14:27.04 | eagles0513875 | in the sense that the wrong mountpoint was set in fstab |
| 14:27.15 | joe6 | any recommendations for a virtual machine? I am checking out qemu/kvm. but, the cpu does not have vmx or svm flags. |
| 14:27.15 | ikonia | eagles0513875: no, |
| 14:27.17 | ikonia | eagles0513875: fstab rules over everything |
| 14:27.19 | chenthu | wols: i tried editing using gedit as root from terminal and added the souces provided by dpkg...but now two source.list files exist....then one i created and the default one....the source.list of the one i created is here....> http://paste.debian.net/124589/ |
| 14:27.34 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: what will happen to the fstab entry once i remove the external hdd or unmount it |
| 14:27.35 | famicube64 | does debian 6 have a set life cycle? I could find anything but my googling skills are rusty |
| 14:27.40 | ikonia | eagles0513875: nothing |
| 14:27.41 | famicube64 | couldn't* |
| 14:27.44 | eagles0513875 | would it revert to the original mount point its currently at |
| 14:27.48 | ikonia | eagles0513875: fstab is static |
| 14:27.50 | eagles0513875 | ok |
| 14:27.55 | ikonia | eagles0513875: you need to remove it from fstab |
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| 14:28.01 | ompaul | Ichigo: let me use the search engines of doom |
| 14:28.17 | eagles0513875 | what would you recommend for the mountpoint /media/sdb1 |
| 14:28.26 | ikonia | eagles0513875: anything you want |
| 14:28.32 | chenthu | wols: the last "cdrom" line is the one in the orignal file also |
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| 14:29.52 | wols | chenthu: there cannot be 2 sources.list file in /etc/apt. just cannot |
| 14:29.59 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: jonathan@EagleEye-Desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 mount: mount point /media/externalMusicDrive does not exist |
| 14:30.06 | joe6 | is there a prepackaged debian virtual image, |
| 14:30.09 | wols | chenthu: and I want to see your current /etc/apt/sources.list, no other file |
| 14:30.09 | eagles0513875 | wait i need to create a folder called that dont i ikonia |
| 14:31.15 | ikonia | eagles0513875: create it |
| 14:31.41 | ikonia | eagles0513875: if you remove the line from fstab, reboot and then insert the usb drive, ti will probably automount for you |
| 14:31.51 | eagles0513875 | ok |
| 14:32.04 | eagles0513875 | ill try that and hope it doesnt automount to the cdrom mountpoint again |
| 14:32.18 | ompaul | Ichigo: it seems to be referenced by a few people so the question is does it exist in some other package |
| 14:32.34 | eagles0513875 | brb again |
| 14:32.35 | ikonia | eagles0513875: shouldn't do as you've removed the fstab entry |
| 14:32.50 | ompaul | Ichigo: tbh until I rebuild the office mail server later in the year I am not going to know what is going on there |
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| 14:37.08 | chenthu | wols: i made a grave mistake...i deleted the file by using rm command from root window terminal.. |
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| 14:38.36 | wols | chenthu: then recreate it? |
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| 14:38.51 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: its working and mounted right now |
| 14:38.56 | ikonia | eagles0513875: excellent |
| 14:39.01 | eagles0513875 | but what i dont get is why the first time it put it on the cdrom mount point |
| 14:39.12 | chenthu | wols: yeah i recreated it..but what to add now?...can u give it in a pastebin so i can copy it? |
| 14:39.15 | ikonia | that's a seperate issue |
| 14:39.22 | eagles0513875 | ok |
| 14:39.38 | ikonia | eagles0513875: cdrom's used to also have "disk" based device files |
| 14:39.38 | eagles0513875 | now that its solved how can i search as to why that occured and also should my xternal hdd have been in the fstab? |
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| 14:39.52 | ikonia | eagles0513875: eg: hard disk, sda, hardisk, sdb, cdrom sdc |
| 14:39.57 | eagles0513875 | ok |
| 14:40.15 | ikonia | eagles0513875: I can only assume the installer did something similar to this |
| 14:40.21 | eagles0513875 | ok |
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| 14:40.38 | eagles0513875 | another thing i had experienced both on kubuntu 11.04 as well as with squeeze |
| 14:41.02 | eagles0513875 | it used to install grub to the wrong MBR it would install it to the mbr of the bootable usb instead of hte hard disk granted the system was installed on hard disk |
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| 14:41.15 | eagles0513875 | but after a reinstall on my netbook that problem was solved as well |
| 14:41.58 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: sorry to bother you another issue i noticed the first time i rebooted i have kde-full package installed yet gdm3 doesnt give me the option to choose a desktop |
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| 14:43.15 | pzn | I am migrating a big website, with close to a thousand html pages. It was previously on an iis server windows. It has tons of wrong case filename links, because fat is case insensitive. can I mount an ext3 partition case insensitive? It would easy for me this migration too much... |
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| 14:44.25 | pzn | valdyn_, ompaul: sorry I had to go away... child is sick... just above is my need for case insensitive ext3 |
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| 14:44.49 | ikonia | eagles0513875: I'd have to look at the config |
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| 14:45.01 | eagles0513875 | which config ikonia |
| 14:45.15 | ikonia | the gdm one |
| 14:45.40 | eagles0513875 | the daemon.conf gdm3 file |
| 14:46.17 | ikonia | however debian does it |
| 14:46.33 | eagles0513875 | ikonia: http://pastebin.com/DGK5kamu |
| 14:46.58 | eagles0513875 | humm actually thats not it |
| 14:47.04 | eagles0513875 | hey guys where is the gdm3 config file? |
| 14:47.33 | ksk | man dgm does not tell you? |
| 14:47.38 | ksk | *gdm |
| 14:47.38 | eagles0513875 | let me look |
| 14:48.16 | eagles0513875 | no mention of a configuration file |
| 14:48.45 | pzn | valdyn_, ompaul : asking in #apache because maybe it has a module to handle this kind of case sensitive problems. |
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| 14:49.10 | chenthu | i think wols is gone somewhere... hmmm... |
| 14:49.19 | ksk | apaches channel here is #httpd btw |
| 14:49.40 | chenthu | can some one paste their source.list file content on a pastebin...casue i deleted mine...by mistake |
| 14:50.11 | TCW | <craigevil> man crda and man regulatory.bin <- I did already read the manpages, and there is no documentation worth the name. Ok, one should set the variable $COUNTRY... where? It has to be very early somewhat at udev time, before networking is brought up... so where is that varaible set? |
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| 14:51.13 | TCW | craigevil, I just say, the documentation *sucks* that's all |
| 14:51.38 | TCW | and before I report a bug I want to know what the debian way is. |
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| 14:56.57 | TCW | regarding the regulatory domain setting in mac80211 drivers with crda, how is the debian approach to set the local regulatory domain? I have one ath5k box and it is set to "AM" (Armenia?) even if I live in germany/europe. The packge crda does not provide any (good) documentation, nor do I see how it should be implemeted best. I've seen several solutions on the net, but all seem a bit hacky and unclean... <- just if another one want to give his 2cents... |
| 14:59.28 | chenthu | can someone paste the contents of their /etc/apt/sources.list file...cause i deleted mine by mistake and need to rebuild it... |
| 14:59.55 | TCW | chenthu, it is *very* easy to rebuilt one from scratch |
| 15:00.12 | chenthu | TCW: how? |
| 15:00.23 | TCW | and every sources.list is more or less for the specific taste of a user. |
| 15:00.43 | chenthu | TCW: i created it already but no contents inside...need to input some... |
| 15:01.01 | chenthu | TCW: can you give me some source list..cause i am new to linux |
| 15:01.06 | TCW | chenthu, deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian main |
| 15:01.27 | chenthu | TCW: ok thanks |
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| 15:01.56 | TCW | that would be the most basic entry... but I I urge you to change the "us" there to something that fits better for your country |
| 15:01.58 | craigevil | TCW, edit either /etc/default/crda or /lib/crda/setregdomain and add the country code to the REGDOMAIN= line |
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| 15:02.50 | chenthu | TCW: ok :) |
| 15:03.05 | TCW | craigevil, ahh... THAT piece is missing, see? :) |
| 15:03.09 | craigevil | you can also use the iw package to set it |
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| 15:03.23 | craigevil | found the info on the arch wiki and by looking at the files |
| 15:03.46 | TCW | craigevil, I know... and there are several other possibilities... |
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| 15:05.37 | chenthu | TCW: i get this error.."E: Malformed line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) |
| 15:05.39 | chenthu | E: The list of sources could not be read.@ |
| 15:05.49 | TCW | Either crda should ask during install time what country-code should be used, or a file in /usr/share/doc/crda/ should explain that. |
| 15:05.56 | TCW | chenthu, oops... me bad :) |
| 15:06.13 | TCW | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main |
| 15:06.28 | craigevil | TCW, as usual linux docs suck |
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| 15:06.43 | TCW | craigevil, now they don't :) |
| 15:06.47 | TCW | err... |
| 15:06.51 | TCW | craigevil, no they don't :) |
| 15:07.54 | TCW | But there is a lot of room for improvement ;) |
| 15:08.19 | sm1 | Alright , i have already installed , yet am still getting http://paste.debian.net/124592/ |
| 15:08.59 | sm1 | installed* debian-multimedia-keyring |
| 15:09.53 | chenthu | can some one give me what command i should use to install .deb file from terminal? |
| 15:10.02 | sm1 | i've even removed multimedia.org from my source.list |
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| 15:10.25 | sm1 | dpkg -i Package ? |
| 15:10.26 | dpkg | removes a speen from sm1 and replaces it with Package |
| 15:10.37 | sm1 | *PAckage.deb. |
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| 15:11.03 | chenthu | sm1: ok will try that..thank you |
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| 15:12.52 | sm1 | that was messed up , so it's dpkg -i package.deb |
| 15:12.53 | TCW | chenthu, err.. you mean aptitude install <pckage name> I guess |
| 15:12.59 | sm1 | yw. |
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| 15:13.38 | TCW | dpkg -i does not getch the package automatically |
| 15:13.38 | dpkg | installs does not getch the package automatically into tcw's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 15:13.45 | TCW | fetch |
| 15:13.54 | chenthu | TCW: i have already downloaded the package |
| 15:14.08 | craigevil | or you can use gdebi which works like dpkg but will also install any needed depends |
| 15:14.15 | TCW | chenthu, is it a third party debian package? |
| 15:14.38 | sm1 | see man dpkg , man apt-get .. to clear things out. |
| 15:14.51 | chenthu | TCW: i am trying to migrate from 32 bit to 64 bit..so i wanna intstall the 64 bit kernal first |
| 15:14.56 | chenthu | kernel* |
| 15:15.17 | TCW | I have a strong feeling that will fail :) |
| 15:15.48 | craigevil | chenthu, see http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html |
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| 15:16.31 | chenthu | craigevil: tq |
| 15:16.46 | chenthu | TCW: yeha me too...but what to do thats my only option |
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| 15:17.42 | TCW | chenthu, why? I suggest you start by explaining your motivation and situation a bit... then we may be able to suggest a working solution |
| 15:18.46 | wols | !tell chenthu about sources.list |
| 15:19.15 | chenthu | TCW: ok...here i go |
| 15:19.26 | wols | chenthu: this factoid tells you two lines for sources.list verbatim. put those two in. if you still get an error, THEN pastebin what is in your sources.list |
| 15:19.39 | chenthu | wols: ok |
| 15:20.25 | TCW | craigevil, do you agree that it should be absolutely clear what a user should do to enable / use a feature without poking around in several places and reading several manpages first? |
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| 15:21.24 | craigevil | yes |
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| 15:22.54 | craigevil | w00t> iw reg set alpha2 Where "alpha2" is the ISO/IEC 3166 alpha2 country code. See http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/iw#Uhttp://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/iw#Updating_your_regulatory_domainpdating_your_regulatory_domain |
| 15:23.11 | project2501a | question: can i install debian from within an existing Linux OS? i have a new disk and i would like to install debian on it. catch is, the machine is currently running redhat. i would like to keep redhat, but boot off the new disk. can i do that? |
| 15:23.23 | chenthu | TCW: I tried installing a 64-bit ubuntu using a usb boot for the past 6 days....notworking....then tried debian...get the "cant find cd rom to mount error" tried with different iso...all official.. i am using unetbootin then i used linux live usb creator, from which i had the option of only downloading a 32 bit iso and it varified it as compatible to be installed using USB and after i... |
| 15:23.25 | chenthu | ...installed....it worked....My machine is a 64 bit machine i am running windows7 as a dual boot |
| 15:24.14 | craigevil | TCW, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/iw#Updating_your_regulatory_domain < |
| 15:24.31 | wols | project2501a: debootstrap |
| 15:25.11 | TCW | craigevil, so what? |
| 15:25.51 | bjwebb | hi. i'm interested in getting some packages into debian. where is my best place to talk to people about them? |
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| 15:26.32 | TCW | chenthu, you may have a very picky hardware there... did you try a more recent installer iso? |
| 15:26.33 | babilen | !tell bjwebb -about mentors |
| 15:26.46 | craigevil | that link is in the iw manpage, and the page has a simple command to change the region |
| 15:27.17 | TCW | craigevil, so what? I don't get what you want to say... |
| 15:28.11 | project2501a | wols: thanks! |
| 15:28.16 | craigevil | nothing just that the info was easy to find just not where one would think it would be |
| 15:28.25 | chenthu | wols: http://paste.debian.net/124594/ |
| 15:28.44 | chenthu | TCW: yeah i tried the most recent iso....not worked |
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| 15:29.04 | TCW | craigevil, as said... *I* already know several solutions to do what I wanted, including iw reg set $SOMETHING |
| 15:29.17 | TCW | chenthu, recent as in "kmuto"? |
| 15:29.36 | wols | chenthu: and? |
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| 15:29.45 | craigevil | just weird that the info isnt in either the cdra or iw docs |
| 15:29.48 | TCW | !kmuto |
| 15:29.48 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 2.6.38) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/oldstable/i386/ch04s03 |
| 15:29.50 | bjwebb | babilen: thanks. the irc channel that lists not longer exists |
| 15:29.51 | chenthu | TCW: whats "kmuto"? |
| 15:30.04 | wols | !kmuto |
| 15:30.04 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 2.6.38) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/oldstable/i386/ch04s03 |
| 15:30.12 | TCW | chenthu, se what Mr. dpkg just told |
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| 15:30.24 | TCW | wols, thanks for the redundancy :p |
| 15:30.32 | project2501a | i am trying to format a 300GB sas 15krpm drive to use ext3. how long does "Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information:" take to finish? |
| 15:30.43 | wols | TCW: belts and suspenders, always :P |
| 15:30.44 | project2501a | it's been there for 8-9 minutes |
| 15:30.49 | babilen | bjwebb: The channel is on irc.oftc.net / irc.debian.org |
| 15:30.53 | chenthu | wols : error ---> http://paste.debian.net/124595/ |
| 15:31.12 | wols | chenthu: did you run apt-get update? |
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| 15:31.41 | chenthu | TCW: oh ok...but no unofficial one...i downloaded everything from the debian website |
| 15:31.42 | eagles0513875 | hey guys i have gnash installed and yet epiphany or iceweasel arent finding it gnash so i can use it for some things :( |
| 15:31.54 | TCW | chenthu, and you are already "root" no need for sudo there |
| 15:32.21 | TCW | chenthu, the officials suggest that one from kmuto for picky hardware |
| 15:32.23 | chenthu | wols: i ran apt-get update its working now... thank you |
| 15:32.27 | bjwebb | babilen: oh, i see. i thought that irc.debian.org was a freenode alias, but i guess i'm thinking of ubuntu |
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| 15:32.52 | nikk | hey guys, greetings |
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| 15:32.58 | chenthu | TCW: oh ok...i never knew that and is it latest and debian? |
| 15:33.02 | nikk | i would like to set up nagios 3.2 |
| 15:33.03 | babilen | bjwebb: It was in the past. All official channels are on irc.oftc.net these days. |
| 15:33.09 | TCW | bjwebb, just curious... about what packages are you about? |
| 15:33.44 | bjwebb | babilen: oh, i see. that makes sense |
| 15:33.57 | TCW | chenthu, it is not latest as in bleeding-edge-latest, but most times recent enough... what exact hardware do you have there? Mainboard? |
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| 15:34.15 | bjwebb | TCW: i'm packaging http://evergreen-ils.org/ - but it has several unpackaged dependencies |
| 15:34.15 | Virtualmix | Hi all. In order to have my webcam working on squeeze I have to add "export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so" in my .bashrc. But how can I also export this variable for sudo ? |
| 15:34.24 | wols | TCW: he has no hardware problems which would make a kmuto installer necessary |
| 15:34.37 | TCW | chenthu, the "installer" is the same on kmuto isos, just the kernel is newer... and teh kernel is that piece that is needed for the hardware |
| 15:34.47 | wols | Virtualmix: why does root need webcam access again? |
| 15:35.24 | chenthu | TCW: i am having compaq pressario v3133au laptop, whith nvidia nforce chipset and nvidia geforce go 6150 graphics card...i updated the ram and hardisk which is 2.5gb and 350 gm hard disk |
| 15:35.34 | Virtualmix | wols, I'm using a anti-thief software on my laptop. |
| 15:35.36 | omid | whom here is familiar with fedora's boot loader |
| 15:35.51 | omid | i know its not the right place but i dont have a registered nick |
| 15:35.56 | TCW | wols, I asked if he tried, not that he should do it... but I see he may have the impression he should do it, agreed... but then again, it does not hurt :) |
| 15:35.58 | omid | and #fedora dosnt let me in |
| 15:36.07 | chenthu | TCW: can u give me the link to download a 64 bit from kmuto? |
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| 15:36.16 | eagles0513875 | omid: register as fedora has nothing to do with this channel |
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| 15:36.22 | eagles0513875 | omid: ask in freenode if you dont know how |
| 15:37.13 | chenthu | TCW: my cd drive is dysfucntional...it rarely works and never works on booting...so i prefer installing through usb... |
| 15:37.13 | Virtualmix | wols, this script needs sudo to run a bunch of commands... Any idea? |
| 15:37.18 | omid | i want to bring debian back to boot loader |
| 15:37.27 | omid | after the installition of fedora i cant access debian |
| 15:37.34 | Stava | I want to append the output of "df -h" to syslog in my cron job, so that it will be sent to my mail by logwatch (i have zz-disk_space disabled). How should I do this? |
| 15:37.44 | TCW | chenthu, oh... how did you put the iso on the usb drive? |
| 15:38.33 | chenthu | TCW: linux live usb creator ---> www.linuxliveusb.com/ |
| 15:39.07 | chenthu | TCW: but this was succesfull....but all the failure ones was in unetbootin |
| 15:39.10 | wols | Virtualmix: man sudo. see the -E option |
| 15:39.17 | ea_ | is the ocz revodrive pci-express fully compatible with debian? are there any known issues with it? (OCZ RevoDrive 50GB PCI-Express X4 SSD) |
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| 15:39.47 | ea_ | I am thinking this as boot/OS disk |
| 15:39.54 | chenthu | TCW: 64bit failed while using unetbootin and linux live usb creator, saying " it cannot find the cd-rom to mount" |
| 15:40.10 | wols | ea_: http://www.google.com/search?q=ocz+revodrive+linux |
| 15:40.29 | Virtualmix | wols, thank you, I'm gonna check this out ;-) |
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| 15:41.02 | TCW | chenthu, I suggest you stick with the official debian documentation regarding usb install then...http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ see if you have mor luck there and report back if something is unclear |
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| 15:41.43 | wols | chenthu: now that you have a debian running, simply dd the CD1 (NOT the live cd) to a usb stick and boot that |
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| 15:41.59 | wols | and of course CD1 of the AMD64 debian. then install that |
| 15:42.06 | chenthu | TCW: yeah will do that |
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| 15:42.58 | TCW | chenthu, basically what wols said is the magic word... but it does not hurt to read the docs there anyway ;) |
| 15:43.37 | chenthu | wols:thats a good idea i now have a linux sysem..previously i dint have one and th documentation exoained process through linux ... i already have that downloaded... will do it now and get back..thank....i may have to relog to swtich the internt back on another laptop to be in touch wih u guys |
| 15:43.55 | chenthu | TCW: ^^^^ |
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| 15:45.06 | TCW | chenthu, I am almost sure there are dozens of windows tools around which can image a usb stick with a ISO file... |
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| 15:47.13 | chenthu | TCW: yeah but the best ones are unetbooting i heard...but what ever i am gonna try what u guys have told me... thank you |
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| 15:48.31 | ecksun | I never got that to work properly with auto-download etc (plus it got no support for several images on one usb-stick) |
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| 15:49.01 | TCW | ecksun, in other words... it is unflexible as hell |
| 15:49.11 | ecksun | yes :) |
| 15:50.16 | ecksun | though it was quite easy to set up grub and get it working that way, once i figured out the installer/livecd (dont remeber which) doesnt have support for loopback mounting |
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| 15:59.39 | chenthu | TCW and wols: guys can i ask you a question on usb? |
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| 16:00.04 | wols | never ask to ask, just ask |
| 16:00.06 | TCW | chenthu, I guess so... after all, we are here ;) |
| 16:00.09 | chenthu | u guys slol |
| 16:00.09 | project2501a | holy shit, deboostrap ROCKS! |
| 16:00.13 | chenthu | ok |
| 16:00.15 | project2501a | ThANK YOU DEBIAN |
| 16:00.17 | project2501a | I LOVE YOU |
| 16:00.30 | TCW | !beer |
| 16:00.30 | dpkg | beer is, like, liquid gold mate |
| 16:00.39 | project2501a | DEBIAN Y U NO RUN IN TOASTER? |
| 16:00.45 | TCW | that factoid... is not what I had in mind... anyway :) |
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| 16:01.17 | wols | !beer TCW |
| 16:01.17 | dpkg | pours a pint of Yuengling Lager for TCW |
| 16:01.29 | TCW | prjif you find a toaster with enough ram and a decent embedded cpu... Debian would run on it :p |
| 16:01.47 | TCW | wols, I don't drink beer... :) |
| 16:01.51 | chenthu | wols and TCW: when i used sudo fdisk -l previously while the usb inserted therewere no partition errors...but now after so many tries of wrioting to the usb now when i use the same command after inserting the same usb i get some partition errors....i would post them on pastebin |
| 16:01.57 | wols | project2501a: netbsd has exclusive access to all toasters. if debian would be release for one, netbsd would immediately sue |
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| 16:02.40 | TCW | chenthu, you did "destroy" the partition table as you did copy the iso on that stick... that is not an error, that is intentional... |
| 16:03.38 | chenthu | TCW: but the disk is now empty and formated...why is the aprtition table very bad still ----> http://paste.debian.net/124597/ |
| 16:03.48 | TCW | chenthu, and fdisk is a partitioning utility... so without a partition on the stick... ;) |
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| 16:04.18 | TCW | chenthu, empty and formated? |
| 16:04.28 | chenthu | TCW: yeah... |
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| 16:05.09 | TCW | chenthu, fdisk -l output looks awkward... but how did you copy the image on the stick? What command exactly? |
| 16:05.39 | chenthu | TCW: i used unetbootin and sometimes usb installer....no command |
| 16:05.50 | chenthu | TCW: all in windows |
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| 16:06.22 | TCW | chenthu, err... didn't we talk about using dd to copy the iso on the stick? |
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| 16:06.49 | TCW | dd... or cat (the official docs speak about cat there) |
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| 16:07.14 | chenthu | TCW: all this before what u said....i just transferd the image to this laptop and i am gonna do what u said....but this is previous error i ahve been haviong from yesterday |
| 16:07.58 | TCW | chenthu, if teh stick is not physically broken... any output you now get is irrelevant, as the stick will get overwritten |
| 16:08.48 | chenthu | TCW: ok starting to use the methid u said will post result |
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| 16:09.45 | TCW | chenthu, poste the commad you use before doing anyway |
| 16:09.50 | TCW | -e |
| 16:10.10 | wizzr | does debian have something similar to red hat network satellite? |
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| 16:11.03 | TCW | wizzr, what is that? |
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| 16:11.43 | wizzr | it allows you to manage multiple servers easily |
| 16:11.44 | chenthu | # cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX and then # sync.... but the device letter inplace of X...and instead of debian.iso i am gonna add my iso path ....right? |
| 16:12.04 | chenthu | TCW: # cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX and then # sync.... but the device letter inplace of X...and instead of debian.iso i am gonna add my iso path ....right? |
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| 16:12.27 | TCW | chenthu, right |
| 16:12.36 | wizzr | does anybody know? |
| 16:12.38 | chenthu | TCW: ok ..beginning process |
| 16:12.53 | TCW | wizzr, what does "manage" mean there? |
| 16:13.52 | wizzr | it allows you to add users to say 50 servers at once |
| 16:13.59 | wizzr | or install apache on all 50 servers at once |
| 16:14.14 | TCW | I guess the answer is somewhat ldap :) |
| 16:14.32 | TCW | ok, ldap does not fit there with software installation :) |
| 16:14.45 | wizzr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Network |
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| 16:29.09 | laurus | When running make to compile a C++ program, how do I tell it look for libraries that are already installed through the package manager? |
| 16:31.03 | Guest97973 | maybe with: LDFLAGS+="-lmylib" make |
| 16:32.03 | wols | laurus: what is your actual problem? |
| 16:32.21 | wols | laurus: are you writing this makefile yourself? |
| 16:32.21 | laurus | wols, I am running "make" on this piece of software: http://digital-haze.net/kepwing.php |
| 16:32.27 | laurus | wols, no, it came with that thing. |
| 16:32.35 | wols | !tell laurus about errors |
| 16:32.41 | laurus | Unfortunately there's no Debian package. |
| 16:32.51 | optraz | how do i forward request from a apache web server to another box web server? |
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| 16:33.14 | Ex-Opesa | If we install ntp, etc and set the server up, does it automatically synchronize the time? If so, then at what intervals? |
| 16:33.16 | mentor | optraz: That depends slightly on what you mean, but you probably want mod_redirect |
| 16:33.39 | mentor | Ex-Opesa: Constantly, excepting a startup period |
| 16:33.49 | optraz | mentor: what do you mean? |
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| 16:34.03 | mentor | optraz: There is more than one "redirect" |
| 16:34.15 | Ex-Opesa | mentor: Constantly? Isn't their any duration in which it syncs? |
| 16:34.16 | laurus | wols, the message is "src/ebdict.h:9:19: fatal error: eb/eb.h: file not found" |
| 16:34.41 | mentor | Ex-Opesa: Yes, constantly |
| 16:34.49 | wols | laurus: that has nothing to do with libraries. it's missing a header file. do you know where to get this header file? |
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| 16:35.00 | mentor | Ex-Opesa: Are you asking "how" it syncs? |
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| 16:35.04 | optraz | mentor: i only have one public ip address and i want to forward the every request destine for foo.com to this internal box |
| 16:35.17 | mentor | optraz: You want to forward the port then? |
| 16:35.21 | optraz | mentor: im looking at mod_proxy but it does not forward to the internal machine |
| 16:35.33 | Ex-Opesa | mentor: Nope, I thought their would be some interval or something, thank you. |
| 16:35.36 | laurus | wols, my guess is that the "eb" directory it refers to is a library called "EB Library" |
| 16:35.38 | optraz | mentor: No, not based on port only, it should based on the hostname |
| 16:35.57 | mentor | Then, yes, probably mod_rewrite |
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| 16:36.06 | wols | laurus: what part of what I wrote didn't you understand? |
| 16:36.11 | wols | laurus: a header file is not a library |
| 16:36.12 | optraz | mentor: are you trying to confused me? |
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| 16:36.58 | wols | optraz: no he's not. but you seem very confused and not very knowledgeable. your internal boxes, do they have routable IPs? |
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| 16:37.09 | laurus | wols, that header file exists in the files for the EB Library. |
| 16:37.14 | laurus | wols: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libeb16 |
| 16:37.22 | mentor | optraz: Er… is the problem that you don't know what mod_rewrite is? |
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| 16:37.48 | optraz | wols: if i know, will i ask the question here? only *one* public ip. the internal machines has their own internal ips addresses. |
| 16:37.58 | wols | laurus: install libeb16-dev then |
| 16:38.12 | optraz | mentor: why should i use mod_rewrite? |
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| 16:38.30 | optraz | mentor: the question is simple, how do i route all the traffic to foo.com to the internal machine |
| 16:38.41 | mentor | optraz: The question is not simple |
| 16:38.46 | wols | optraz: a port forward. which you denied and said it wasn't the right thing |
| 16:38.55 | mentor | optraz: And I'm rapidly becoming bored with trying ot help you |
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| 16:39.18 | mentor | optraz: I'd suggest a slightly more constructive tone if you want anyone to help you at all |
| 16:39.28 | optraz | mentor: ok fine |
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| 16:40.00 | wols | optraz: do you have virtual hosts which then need to be served by different apache servers? |
| 16:40.01 | mentor | optraz: I think the key issue here is that you can only determine which traffic is for foo.com once the HTTP session has started |
| 16:40.03 | laurus | wols, thank you, it got farther. By the way, when running qmake, what does "sh: pkg-config: not found" signify? |
| 16:40.11 | optraz | wols: because not just port 80, the machine has port 80 use too. so that is why forwarding to the internal machine based on the hostname not just port |
| 16:40.17 | mentor | optraz: Hence you're going to have to use some form of in http server redirection |
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| 16:40.53 | mentor | optraz: You've tried mod_proxy, I suggested mod_rewrite. The former apparently does not work. Perhaps you should look at the documentation for the latter. |
| 16:41.29 | optraz | mentor: ok, so mod_proxy is not the one i should be looking at? because i ask similar question yesterday (cant remember exactly) but i twas told that mod_proxy can do and so i have been reading mod_proxy in apache site |
| 16:41.36 | wols | mentor: since his public ip facing apache would need to act as a proxy, how can it work? |
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| 16:41.56 | optraz | mentor: to be exact reverse proxy |
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| 16:42.08 | mentor | wols: I was under the impression mod_rewrite could rewrite on the backend only |
| 16:42.17 | mentor | I.e., not issue a browser redirect |
| 16:43.08 | optraz | ok, so should i use mod_rewrite? |
| 16:43.22 | optraz | if it match foo.com , the rewrite to an internal machine? |
| 16:43.42 | mentor | I believe that something like that is possible; however, I wouldn't solely take my word for it |
| 16:43.53 | optraz | ok |
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| 16:44.15 | ironicum | hai |
| 16:44.27 | optraz | i iknow google help but sometime if you google with the wrong keyword, you would not find the answer to your question |
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| 16:49.12 | chenthu | TCW and wols : guys i think its working..... hurray...........i dint get the error and the installation is going smoother than i expected |
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| 16:54.36 | DDoS | who wants some DDoS? |
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| 16:55.00 | project2501a | hey guys, sorry, silly question, but i have been stare-ing at this "writing superblocks and filesystem account information: " line for half an hour now, while waiting for mke2fs to create the filesystem on a brand new disk i installed. it is a 6G sas 300GB, 15krpm. is this going to take a while? usually, it does not. |
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| 16:55.19 | project2501a | DDoS: http://4chan.org |
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| 16:55.49 | project2501a | garotosopa: sorry, i use the command line, not the gui |
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| 16:59.30 | joe6 | i downloaded an image from : http://people.debian.org/~aurel32/qemu/i386/ , but when I try to mount it, it gives me an error: sudo mount -t ext3 -o loopback,offset=32256 debian_squeeze_i386_desktop.qcow2 /mnt/mount-point-for-qemu-image |
| 16:59.31 | optraz | mentor: dont think it is mod_rewrite also |
| 16:59.34 | joe6 | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, |
| 16:59.45 | optraz | mentor: just read mod_rewrite |
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| 17:00.42 | wols | joe6: why this special offset? |
| 17:00.55 | joe6 | wols, oh, did not realise that. |
| 17:01.24 | joe6 | wols, now, it says: ount: /home/j/local/mplabc30v3_30b/debian_squeeze_i386_desktop.qcow2 is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?) |
| 17:01.33 | wols | joe6: answer my question |
| 17:01.36 | joe6 | sudo mount -t ext3 -o loopback debian_squeeze_i386_desktop.qcow2 /mnt/mount-point-for-qemu-image |
| 17:01.55 | joe6 | wols, no, I just found the mount command and I tried it without thinking about the offset |
| 17:02.37 | joe6 | wols: http://pastebin.com/gggM47fg |
| 17:03.15 | optraz | how do i check if the request is destined to foo.com? |
| 17:03.30 | chenthu | wols: the installation carried out without a glistch and was successful...but now when i boot...i get display error (scrambled screen after everything has loaded) |
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| 17:04.04 | joe6 | wols, probably the offset for the grub partition. |
| 17:04.58 | wols | joe6: there is no such thing as a grub partition and you definitely cannot mount such a thing. think harder before you answer next time pleaser |
| 17:05.07 | wols | joe6: again: why this special number for the offset? |
| 17:05.14 | joe6 | ok, let me think about it. |
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| 17:05.34 | wols | joe6: is there ANY reason why you, joe6, typed in that number? |
| 17:06.06 | mentor | optraz: You want a virtualhost for foo.com, surely? |
| 17:06.30 | joe6 | wols, block size? |
| 17:06.50 | joe6 | wols, reading up on it, here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU#Mounting_qcow2_image |
| 17:07.17 | wols | joe6: please write something sensible. last time: why did you enter those numbers? |
| 17:07.25 | optraz | mentor: sorry, if i have offended to you just now. am cool now sipping coke. |
| 17:07.34 | optraz | mentor: yes, im reading virtualhost as well but im a bit lost |
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| 17:12.03 | mentor | optraz: There should be a virtual hosts example about |
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| 17:16.34 | optraz | mentor: virtualhost allow only selection for different port? the server-A should forward to server-B if the request is equal to foo.com. both server-A and server-B has to be listen on port 80 |
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| 17:17.19 | mentor | optraz: They allow for that but the general usage is differentiating based on namer |
| 17:17.23 | mentor | s/er/e/ |
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| 17:18.11 | optraz | really? cant find any good example in http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html |
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| 17:25.53 | mentor | optraz: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Virtualhost+name+example |
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| 17:31.39 | chenthu | wols: can u help me regarding the diplay error after i boot? |
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| 17:32.34 | wols | chenthu: uname -r |
| 17:32.49 | chenthu | in the terminal? |
| 17:32.56 | chenthu | wols: ^^^ |
| 17:33.10 | _stefanos_ | chenthu: yes |
| 17:33.27 | chenthu | _stefanos_: ok .. |
| 17:33.57 | _stefanos_ | what is exactly the issue because i just came |
| 17:34.04 | chenthu | wols: it says 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 17:34.15 | _stefanos_ | too old i would say |
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| 17:35.59 | chenthu | _stefanos_: after booting up my 64 bit debian i just cant get a login screen...instead i get a scarmbled screen |
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| 17:36.20 | _stefanos_ | what was the last thing you updated? |
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| 17:36.36 | chenthu | _stefanos_: i just installed it and never even used it once |
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| 17:36.51 | _stefanos_ | installed what? GNU / Linux Debian? |
| 17:37.43 | chenthu | _stefanos_: debian |
| 17:39.27 | _stefanos_ | and you just installed it and didn't have any issue while running the setup? |
| 17:39.38 | chenthu | _stefanos_: nope... |
| 17:39.51 | chenthu | _stefanos_: i thik display driver error |
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| 17:40.16 | _stefanos_ | but in terminal is ok, right? it doesn't get stuck or something |
| 17:41.08 | chenthu | _stefanos_: but 32 bit debian which i installed a few minutes ago worked well...i formated and installed a 64 bit and installation was smooth but cant login...i get a colloured screen and gets stuck |
| 17:41.27 | chenthu | _stefanos_: i can get the terminal only through recovery |
| 17:42.04 | TCW | chenthu, what gfx card do you use? |
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| 17:42.36 | chenthu | TCW: Nvidia Geforce 6150 Go |
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| 17:43.31 | TCW | chenthu, hmm... can you paste the Xorg.0.log? Does this machine have net even in recovery mode? |
| 17:43.38 | chenthu | TCW: Compaq Pressario V3133au Laptop with 128 MB of VRAM from Nvidia Graphics card |
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| 17:44.39 | chenthu | TCW: i cant access ineternet in this system because i use wifi and my wifi driver b43 is not installed it was asking for the driver and i dint have so i just said install later and then proceeded... |
| 17:45.07 | chenthu | TCW: where can i find the Xorg.0.log? |
| 17:45.19 | wols | chenthu: lspci -nn|grep VGA |
| 17:45.34 | wols | oh, you already told. sorry |
| 17:45.55 | _stefanos_ | chenthu: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:46.01 | TCW | chenthu, I have to go in a few moments, concentrate on Xorg and try to show the folks here that Xorg.0.log.... and to get wifi running in the console, b43 should be supported, maybe firmware is missing, either problems folks here can help with |
| 17:46.23 | chenthu | TCW: Thank you very much...bye....tc |
| 17:46.29 | TCW | chenthu, for the wifi in cosonel setup ask dpkg about interfaces |
| 17:46.46 | chenthu | TCW: ok.. :)...have a wonderful day |
| 17:46.55 | chenthu | wols: will try that now |
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| 17:47.56 | TCW | chenthu, oh... and ask dpkg about "wifi" too... the rest is almost self-explanatory :) |
| 17:48.40 | chenthu | _stefanos_: i cant access files...says no such file or directory i think its because i am in recoverymode |
| 17:48.51 | _stefanos_ | yes |
| 17:49.06 | chenthu | TCW: ok right now |
| 17:49.32 | apiecux | hi, on an installed Debian system using testing, I would like to run cryptsetup luksOpen at startup, to allow 'mount -a' mount it from /etc/fstab. Is there a standard way to do it, or I have to create an init script in /etc/rc.X/? |
| 17:49.51 | krakrjak | chenthu: mount -a |
| 17:50.17 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok |
| 17:52.04 | chenthu | krakrjak: nothing happens |
| 17:55.04 | tharkun | What is the recomended filesystem format for an usb hdd 750Gb in size? |
| 17:55.16 | chenthu | _stefanos_: ok i mounted and got into the directory...how to open xorg.0.log? |
| 17:55.20 | krakrjak | chenthu: now try to view /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 17:55.31 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok |
| 17:56.09 | bint | is there a command to see what sys spec. my computer got |
| 17:56.32 | bint | like ram, cpu brand / mhz etc.. |
| 17:56.51 | krakrjak | bint: cat /proc/cpuinfo for just details about your processor. |
| 17:56.58 | bint | ah thx |
| 17:57.01 | chenthu | krakrjak: a blank spoace with many blue ~ lines open |
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| 17:57.34 | krakrjak | chenthu: so I guess it didn't make a log file. Do you have any logs in /var/log? Any Xorg.* files? |
| 17:58.00 | krakrjak | bint: also dmidecode, lshal and lshw can give you more details. |
| 17:58.15 | bint | great thank you |
| 17:58.22 | krakrjak | bint: throw in an lspci and you have a lot of information aobut what's in the box. |
| 17:58.33 | chenthu | krakrjak: i have a file called Xorg.0.log.old |
| 17:58.51 | krakrjak | chenthu: is the time stamp on it relevant? |
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| 17:59.07 | chenthu | krakrjak: let me check |
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| 18:00.57 | NiLoni | so if I install 64 bit version, do I also need 64 binaries or does 32 bit binaries work but preference is for 64? |
| 18:01.25 | chenthu | krakrjak: how to check the timestamp? |
| 18:01.29 | _stefanos_ | guys, i don't know what's going on with the new kernel, but in combination with new nouveau driver, it's crashing my system soooooo much! |
| 18:01.39 | optraz | mentor: got it. |
| 18:01.41 | _stefanos_ | if it was a human being, i would kill it by now :D |
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| 18:01.45 | krakrjak | chenthu: ls -l /var/log/Xorg* |
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| 18:01.53 | mentor | optraz: :) ! |
| 18:01.53 | optraz | needed virtualhost, mod_rewrite and mod_proxy |
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| 18:02.03 | mentor | ah, fun. |
| 18:02.09 | optraz | mentor: no it is not |
| 18:02.36 | mentor | optraz: You missed the irony tags |
| 18:02.41 | anoob | hey, are there someone using an AMD Radeon HD 6470M on debian? |
| 18:03.00 | _stefanos_ | btw, what happened to old nVidia proprietary drivers? with them I never had an issue |
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| 18:03.21 | chenthu | krakrjak: old xorg is 22.30 |
| 18:03.35 | chenthu | krakrjak: xorg is 22.34 |
| 18:03.43 | chenthu | krakrjak: i just restarted |
| 18:04.02 | krakrjak | chaenthu: sounds like you didn't get a good log file. crap. Do Over! |
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| 18:04.21 | chenthu | krakrjak: ?.... :( no way? |
| 18:04.52 | krakrjak | chenthu: it's no big deal just try reproducing the problem again and see if you get an Xorg.0.log file. |
| 18:05.04 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok |
| 18:05.16 | krakrjak | chenthu: troubleshooting X issues without the log is pretty hard... |
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| 18:05.24 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok |
| 18:06.04 | _stefanos_ | time for experimentation |
| 18:06.07 | krakrjak | apiecux: no traction yet? |
| 18:06.07 | _stefanos_ | c ya ;) |
| 18:06.30 | krakrjak | good luck _stefanos_ |
| 18:06.40 | optraz | mentor: well , im serious :) am wake at 0206. no time nor sense of humour now |
| 18:06.49 | optraz | mentor: yes, on sunday morning |
| 18:07.06 | chenthu | krakrjak: got it |
| 18:07.37 | krakrjak | chenthu: any hints? Check for WW and EE in the log file |
| 18:07.45 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok |
| 18:08.02 | chenthu | krakrjak: putting in pastebin |
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| 18:11.55 | krakrjak | chenthu: links? |
| 18:12.18 | chenthu | krakrjak: putting in pastebin...i have to type them...typing...just a min |
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| 18:12.55 | krakrjak | chenthu: ahhh sorry. |
| 18:13.14 | chenthu | krakrjak: :) ... |
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| 18:14.03 | chenthu | krakrjak: just the (ww) line or the whole thing...casue no (ee) |
| 18:14.44 | krakrjak | chenthu: just the WW line is fine if there were no EEs |
| 18:15.17 | krakrjak | chenthu: ... that's got me worried that it may be no help. |
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| 18:15.29 | krakrjak | chenthu: still want to see it. |
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| 18:15.50 | moele | anyone know what method cacti uses to poll bandwidth information for generating the graphs? |
| 18:16.03 | chenthu | http://paste.debian.net/124606/............noissues....result or no result ur help is really a need...thank u |
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| 18:16.11 | krakrjak | moele: snmp gets |
| 18:16.25 | chenthu | krakrjak: lol....sry http://paste.debian.net/124606/ |
| 18:16.40 | moele | krakrjak, using what |
| 18:16.59 | moele | krakrjak, does it poll the interface directly |
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| 18:17.35 | chenthu | krakrjak: hey sry missed a lin...just one sec |
| 18:17.57 | krakrjak | chenthu: that was only showing the font stuff. That's normal that there may be font directories listed that you don't have. |
| 18:18.59 | krakrjak | moele: you know I'm not quite sure. It hits the snmpd and uses the MIB to walk the tree and get the data out of the devices.... I know that some MIB entries are handled by scripts to collect the data. |
| 18:19.32 | krakrjak | moele: I think you'd need to look more deeply at the snmpd to find the information you want. cacti is just and snmp client that makes graphs of the data recovered from an snmpd. |
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| 18:20.06 | moele | krakrjak, no i know to be honest i have the CTO at my office whose a complete aardvark |
| 18:20.22 | moele | krakrjak, he insists that SNMP uses IPTables to extrapolate bandwidth data |
| 18:20.24 | chenthu | krakrjak: here is the libnk.... mistake corrected... http://paste.debian.net/124608/ |
| 18:20.33 | moele | krakrjak, and im adamant that he is wrong and i need to find some concrete proof |
| 18:20.41 | moele | krakrjak, becuase he just seems like a dumbass |
| 18:20.41 | moele | :) |
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| 18:20.54 | krakrjak | moele: ok... hrm... I know better too. Let's see. |
| 18:21.08 | moele | krakrjak, cause seriously theres no way they are using iptables to poll it |
| 18:21.20 | moele | i mean you could use iptables to monitor bandwidth |
| 18:21.24 | moele | but snmp using that i doubt it |
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| 18:21.31 | moele | because what about architectures or oses like bsd, or solaris |
| 18:21.33 | moele | that dont even have iptables :) |
| 18:21.36 | moele | and there own convensions |
| 18:21.43 | moele | you saying they use their software firewalls for each different os |
| 18:21.44 | moele | i doubt it; |
| 18:21.45 | krakrjak | moele: and it works there just fine. |
| 18:21.51 | moele | exactly |
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| 18:22.30 | moele | krakrjak, but again i would have too likely look at the code for snmpd |
| 18:22.34 | moele | to see what its doing to collect this information |
| 18:22.40 | moele | but i have a feeling its reading data fromt he actaul interface |
| 18:22.43 | moele | that would be more "compatible" |
| 18:22.47 | moele | and a far more likely scenario |
| 18:22.50 | krakrjak | chenthu: ok so the driver is loading up and X is fat dumb and happy with the hardware. What's it doing? Which driver are you using? |
| 18:23.21 | krakrjak | moele: let me see, I've got an snmpd node hanging around here. |
| 18:23.28 | moele | krakrjak, nice |
| 18:23.37 | moele | <3 snmp |
| 18:23.45 | chenthu | krakrjak: it says "X.org Video Driver: 6.0 |
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| 18:24.16 | moele | krakrjak, look at switches and routers to, which have their little NOS like cisco ios and crap, they have snmp support built in and cacti can poll the infromation from a network switch or router as well |
| 18:24.23 | moele | so how exactly does iptables play any part in that |
| 18:24.30 | moele | it just doesnt seem like it would be very good compatability code |
| 18:24.39 | moele | who would design a program to only work in 1 environment |
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| 18:24.46 | moele | youd want it to be cross-platform |
| 18:25.02 | moele | and i highly doubt they have 500 ifelse directives for each OS |
| 18:25.14 | moele | saying if windows use this if linux use iptables if bsd use pf etc.. |
| 18:25.15 | moele | lol |
| 18:25.38 | krakrjak | moele: conceptually you are dead on. It asks the hardware. |
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| 18:26.05 | chenthu | krakrjak: is tht the one u were looking for? |
| 18:26.37 | moele | krakrjak, now that makes logical sense |
| 18:27.44 | krakrjak | chenthu: not at all unfortunately still just more font stuff. Can be safely ignored. |
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| 18:28.26 | krakrjak | moele: you can get interface statistics without iptables being installed. |
| 18:28.28 | chenthu | krakrjak...then why isnt it loading... cani i record the even and upload it on youtube...so u cant see ? |
| 18:28.43 | krakrjak | moele: prove it to him maybe? I can't find a good place to show a reference for him. |
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| 18:29.20 | wols | chenthu: I suggest you fix your wlan so you can access pastebin properly |
| 18:29.25 | moele | krakrjak, im trying |
| 18:29.31 | moele | krakrjak, i just think when you are like.. |
| 18:29.36 | chenthu | wols: ok |
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| 18:30.07 | moele | coming up with a proposal to monitor bandwidth and other resources it seems so stupid he would want me to explain how things are fetching information, i will tell him SNMP but its not my job to delve intot he source code and find individual mechanisms that are being used |
| 18:30.11 | moele | what a waste of time |
| 18:30.32 | moele | fetching information on such a deep level i mean |
| 18:30.35 | moele | SNMP should be good enuf |
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| 18:31.47 | moele | hey |
| 18:31.49 | moele | i found it |
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| 18:32.14 | chenthu | wols and krakrjak : sry i was wrong...the file is very big and has some more ww info...i just dint scroll will put up in paste bin now |
| 18:32.33 | moele | krakrjak, formula for half duplex is ifinoctets + ifoutoctets x 8 x 100 divided by number of seconds in "interface" x ifSpeed |
| 18:32.51 | chenthu | wols and krakrjak : will try to copy the xorg file to usb then upload in paste bin... |
| 18:33.02 | moele | its using mathematics not iptables to do some mathematical algorithms on the IF statistics from what it looks like |
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| 18:35.15 | aPpYe | with archlinux, I can no longer use bonobo applets via xfapplet in xfce ... this is because they have phased it out completely. Is the same thing expected to happen with debian testing/sid? There are some gnome applets I like to use, particularly mintmenu |
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| 18:35.19 | moele | krakrjak, obviously there is more to it than that, but basically its uses numbers to determine the speed |
| 18:35.19 | chenthu | wols and krakrjak : i really apologize...i di nt see that |
| 18:35.22 | moele | krakrjak, :) |
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| 18:40.48 | chenthu | krakrjak wols ; u there? |
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| 18:45.02 | krakrjak | chenthu: sorry stepped out for a bit. |
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| 18:45.47 | krakrjak | chenthu: can you possibly copy and paste it to save some of your sanity? |
| 18:46.15 | krakrjak | moele: so do you think you have the ammo to thawrt your dim bulbed CTO? |
| 18:46.47 | chenthu | krakrjak: sure...sorry... i am copying the x.org filr to usb and then i am gonna paste it here...again iam very sorry for being so neive and dumb |
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| 18:48.44 | krakrjak | chenthu: ok, you can also try pastebinit if you have networking at the command line. |
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| 18:49.09 | wols | krakrjak: he hasn't. broadcom wlan... |
| 18:49.23 | krakrjak | wols: dagnabbit |
| 18:49.54 | wols | krakrjak: tho he had apt-get install <different kernel> working, so maybe he does, I dunno |
| 18:50.05 | wols | he rarely answers constructively when you ask as you notice |
| 18:51.24 | wols | well they do, but that's cause their whole clothing is black! |
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| 18:56.10 | chenthu | wols: my wifi not workling...trying to get it sorted using the link provided by dpkg and on the whole trying to cp the log ifle to windows and then use it |
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| 18:56.37 | wols | chenthu: how did it all work when you ran 32bit debian? |
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| 18:58.17 | chenthu | wols: no idea...but even then i dint have wifi....i was using my 3g stick.... it got detected |
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| 18:59.43 | wols | chenthu: lspci -nn what is the pci id for your wlan card exactly? |
| 19:01.36 | xreal | What's the correct way to set kernel.shmmax in Squeeze? "sysctl -w kernel.shmmax=11533312" && sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf ? |
| 19:02.05 | chenthu | wols: "Network controller [0280] : Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g [14e4:4312] (rev 01)" |
| 19:02.22 | wols | !bcm4312 |
| 19:02.22 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4312 (PCI ID 14e4:4315) is a PCI-E 802.11g wireless LAN chipset with a low-power PHY, supported by <b43> as of Linux 2.6.32. Firmware is required, ask me about <contrib> and install the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package to provide. Lenny users, see <bcm4312 lenny>. Alternatively supported by <wl>. PCI ID 14e4:4312 uses a BCM4311 chipset, requiring firmware-b43-installer. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx |
| 19:02.46 | wols | !info firmware-b43-lpphy-installer |
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| 19:02.54 | wols | ,info firmware-b43-lpphy-installer |
| 19:02.56 | judd | Package firmware-b43-lpphy-installer (contrib/kernel, optional) in squeeze/i386: Installer package for firmware for the b43 driver (LP-PHY version). Version: 4.174.64.19-4; Size: 5.1k; Installed: 48k |
| 19:03.01 | dpkg | firmware-b43-lpphy-installer: (Installer package for firmware for the b43 driver (LP-PHY version)), section contrib/kernel, is optional. Version: 1:014-5 (sid), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 52 kB |
| 19:03.14 | wols | chenthu: so you know what firmware package you need |
| 19:03.26 | xreal | !bcm5704 |
| 19:03.46 | chenthu | wols: yeah ....u should see the smile on my face now...u guys seem like god...u know a hell lot.... |
| 19:03.47 | wols | xreal: only works for the most common shitty wlan chips from that POS company |
| 19:03.54 | xreal | wols: okay |
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| 19:04.06 | wols | xreal: isn't bcm57 a ethernet nic? |
| 19:04.13 | xreal | wols: yep :-) |
| 19:04.28 | dym | For some strange reason i cannot use "bittorrent" package on my commandline. there doesnt seem to be an executable anywhere after installing the .deb - andi dea? |
| 19:04.33 | dym | any idea* |
| 19:04.37 | xreal | wols: I remember a message at the installation of Squeeze about missing firmware... |
| 19:04.43 | wols | dym: which deb did you install? |
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| 19:04.49 | dym | wols: the one on the repo |
| 19:04.53 | dym | "bittorrent" |
| 19:04.55 | wols | dym: WHICH one? |
| 19:05.00 | dym | sec |
| 19:05.07 | wols | dym: dpkg -L bittorrent |grep bin |
| 19:05.23 | wols | this shows you all callable binaries that package installed |
| 19:05.29 | dym | ii bittorrent 3.4.2-11.3 Original BitTorent client - console tools |
| 19:05.36 | chenthu | wols: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-b43-lpphy-installer which pacage should i download? |
| 19:06.07 | wols | chenthu: there is only one to download there |
| 19:06.15 | wols | chenthu: the link named "all" |
| 19:06.34 | chenthu | wols: yeah..sry :-P |
| 19:06.50 | xreal | What's the correct way to set kernel.shmmax in Squeeze? "sysctl -w kernel.shmmax=11533312" && sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf ? |
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| 19:07.08 | dym | wols: doesnt seem to be the right package. or its described wrong |
| 19:07.10 | dym | ii bittorrent 3.4.2-11.3 Original BitTorent client - console tools |
| 19:07.20 | dym | there is no bin to it. |
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| 19:07.35 | sphenxes | I have build my system (Debian/squeeze) several months ago. Now I would like to add raid controller ADAPTEC AAR 2610SA to my box. My question: should i reinstall the whole system once more. Or I can Add the controller then add (my old hard drive + new hard drive) and the system will work. Planning for Raid 1.Would squeeze recognize the RAID card or should I manually add it? |
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| 19:08.20 | dym | sphenxes: you have a downtime either way |
| 19:08.22 | dym | so trial and error |
| 19:09.06 | sphenxes | dym, no problem with the time, its personal computer. |
| 19:09.10 | krakrjak | sorry for afk, I gotta run, I'll be back on later good luck chenthu |
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| 19:09.31 | xreal | Yeah, kernel 3.0 is running here! |
| 19:09.45 | chenthu | krakrjak: thank you so much for the help...have a good day |
| 19:10.00 | wols | dym: I just looked. there are 10 files in that package which match my command up there. you didn't even try |
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| 19:11.21 | dym | wols: i did. but none seemed to qualify the criteria. |
| 19:11.22 | dym | http://paste.debian.net/124616/ |
| 19:11.49 | chenthu | wols: which command should i use to instal this deb file? |
| 19:11.51 | wols | dym: "download" is a pretty strong hint, don't you agree? |
| 19:11.53 | dym | http://paste.debian.net/124616//away detached |
| 19:11.56 | wols | chenthu: dpkg -i |
| 19:11.57 | chenthu | wols: dpkg? |
| 19:12.02 | chenthu | wols: ok |
| 19:12.05 | dym | wols: but downloadcurses? |
| 19:12.37 | wols | dym: what about it? it's a downloader with a (n)curses interface |
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| 19:13.08 | dym | wols: right. sorry for bothering. ill check the rest out myself. |
| 19:13.30 | wols | dym: maybe you should look into more userfriendly torrent clients? |
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| 19:14.26 | wols | dym: bittornado maybe? or transmission if you have a GUI |
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| 19:18.08 | chenthu | wols: says not supported card here |
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| 19:19.32 | wols | what does? |
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| 19:24.22 | chenthu | wols: searched everywhere..it gives the same file |
| 19:25.13 | chenthu | wols: i tried installing the file it said b43-fwcutter not intsalled...then i downloaded that and installed..but when i tried to install the firmware...itsaid its not support |
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| 19:25.39 | chenthu | wols: sry i dint see that u have typed...i dint get an indication that u typed so i was reading abt this driver |
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| 19:26.20 | Independer | Hello |
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| 19:26.50 | pyroscope | dym: try /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.bittorrent, or better use rTorrent |
| 19:27.38 | pyroscope | the "plain" commands are only available via /etc/alternatives |
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| 19:29.18 | f8l | Independer: Hello. |
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| 19:30.03 | tawtaw | how can i make applications use my second soundcard instead of my first by default? |
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| 19:34.34 | krakrjak | chenthu: need firmware-bnx2 also |
| 19:34.57 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok... |
| 19:35.25 | magyar | tawtaw: Use the /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc configuration files to set your default sound card. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ026 for more information. |
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| 19:39.52 | tharkun | themill: The kernel failure seems to be a problem with one of the hdd partitions, some inconsistency of some sort which the ntfs3g module is not capable of managing. Some more serious debuging is needed but I have yet to understand how the module works. If you have any keyword i might google it would be apreciated |
| 19:40.00 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok installed...now should i try to install firmware-b43-ipphy installer again after firmware-bnx2 |
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| 19:41.05 | technologov | hi ! Just installed new Debian 6.0 box + apache2 + phpbb... but mySQL won't start |
| 19:41.25 | technologov | I get: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) [2002] |
| 19:41.28 | technologov | Any ideas? |
| 19:42.29 | tharkun | themill: noone on the ##kernel channel became interested in the problem |
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| 19:42.44 | magyar | technologov: make sure the process is running, try connecting from console |
| 19:42.50 | technologov | how? |
| 19:43.13 | magyar | using the mysql client |
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| 19:44.49 | chenthu | wols : what now? |
| 19:47.17 | krakrjak | chenthu: yes |
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| 19:49.24 | chenthu | krakrjak: i installed the one u asked nd then try to install the ipphy installer dint work |
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| 19:53.27 | krakrjak | chenthu, e |
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| 19:54.13 | krakrjak | chenthu, sorry, whats the error |
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| 19:55.41 | chenthu | krakrjak: it again says not supported |
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| 19:57.31 | chenthu | krakrjak: but the firmware-bnx2 installed good |
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| 20:17.46 | janos | hi, I tried to install the 2.6.39-2 kernel from testing, but the machine doesn't boot. can you help me? |
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| 20:19.53 | janos | can somebody help me? |
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| 20:21.59 | rozie | janos: provide more details |
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| 20:22.35 | janos | the grub.cfg configure properly. I have a 2.6.38 kernel working with exactly the same settings |
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| 20:23.24 | janos | after boot, 2.6.39 print it can't find the root on unknown-block(0,0) then print kernel panic. ext2 module is loaded. |
| 20:23.48 | rozie | I understand that other kernels still work? |
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| 20:24.08 | janos | yes. I have a 2.6.38 and 2.6.32 working |
| 20:25.39 | janos | my menu entry is the following: |
| 20:25.40 | rozie | janos: you can give a try to linux-image-3.0.0-1 it's in the unstable |
| 20:25.46 | janos | menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 2.6.39-2-686-pae' --class debian --class gnu-linux --class g |
| 20:25.46 | janos | nu --class os { |
| 20:25.46 | janos | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.46 | janos | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.46 | janos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:26.31 | rozie | and I have it working on two machines with Squeeze |
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| 20:27.17 | rozie | BTW 3.0.0 has some additional dependencies |
| 20:28.08 | janos | my kernel menu entry is at http://paste.debian.net/124622/ |
| 20:29.12 | chenthu | krakrjak: dude u there...i got the log file in windows now |
| 20:29.13 | janos | well, maybe 3.0.0 would work but I would stay at debian stable + some packages from testing |
| 20:29.29 | rozie | try 3.0.0... if other kernels boot, it is not critical thing |
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| 20:29.45 | rozie | janos: what's in .39 what is not in .38? |
| 20:30.05 | janos | rozie, I don't know... |
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| 20:30.30 | rozie | so just forget about .39 |
| 20:30.44 | rozie | g'nite |
| 20:31.21 | janos | I just wanted to know why .39 is not working... one day I will need to upgrade to newer kernels |
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| 20:32.36 | janos | rozie, thank you for the help |
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| 20:36.06 | luxor | hi here |
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| 20:38.04 | luxor | i'v a question about USB, i transfer on usb2 at 10Mio/s, i thinks it slow, so i checked usb with lspci and i can see 4xUHCI and 1xEhci, so i understand i have 4xusb1 and 1xusb2. How can i know witch port is usb2 ? |
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| 20:38.27 | luxor | or install specefic modules to enable usb2 on all usb port ? (i have a P5kpl mobo) |
| 20:39.35 | _stefanos_ | hello again. guys, since June 12th I ran updates, I have issues with my PC. I have an old GeForce FX 5200, and after the updates, my system uninstall the proprietary drivers and installed the new nouveau. Since then, without a warning or something, my system would either hung up, freeze, or even worse get panicked. |
| 20:40.04 | _stefanos_ | i have installed the proprietary packages but for some reason it cannot find nvidia.ko in /lib/modules |
| 20:40.21 | daemonkeeper | How did you install them? |
| 20:40.24 | KaffeeJunky123 | _stefanos_: how did you install them? |
| 20:40.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | oh |
| 20:40.30 | _stefanos_ | aptitude |
| 20:40.30 | KaffeeJunky123 | I'm late :o |
| 20:40.35 | daemonkeeper | \o/ first |
| 20:40.43 | daemonkeeper | _stefanos_: More precise please. |
| 20:40.53 | daemonkeeper | There are, I think, three alternatives. |
| 20:41.02 | KaffeeJunky123 | _stefanos_: you should also tell us what debian version you're using |
| 20:41.21 | _stefanos_ | daemonkeeper: since i first installed GNU / Linux Debian on my system i added non-free repositories to be able to install nvidia binaries |
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| 20:41.36 | _stefanos_ | everything was working okay until the updates of June 12th |
| 20:41.52 | _stefanos_ | after this i cannot get nvidia installed properly |
| 20:41.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | _stefanos_: there are different packages with nvidia drivers, we need to know which one you installed |
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| 20:42.09 | gebjgd | hello room |
| 20:42.10 | _stefanos_ | let me prepare the list for you |
| 20:42.16 | daemonkeeper | (alternatively, dpkg -l | grep "nvidia" would help) |
| 20:42.23 | gebjgd | i am a new guy for debian |
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| 20:42.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | gebjgd: you are welcome |
| 20:42.58 | gebjgd | KaffeeJunky123, i have a question about the debian unstable, now i am running debian testing |
| 20:44.14 | _stefanos_ | KaffeeJunky123: there you go http://dpaste.com/582407/ |
| 20:44.26 | gebjgd | KaffeeJunky123, i was using arch then i found it is not stable. i just wanna know is debian unstable stable than arch? |
| 20:45.06 | gebjgd | KaffeeJunky123, because i am suffering some bugs of debian testing |
| 20:45.20 | daemonkeeper | !break |
| 20:45.20 | dpkg | "This release is currently considered ``unstable''. That means that things *will* break if you run it." (quote from old page http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/), or see <ben break>, or http://bugs.debian.org/155873#10 |
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| 20:46.57 | KaffeeJunky123 | gebjgd: unstable is definitly more broken then arch |
| 20:47.05 | daemonkeeper | I don't agree |
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| 20:47.17 | gebjgd | KaffeeJunky123, ok.....i should stay with debian testing |
| 20:47.19 | daemonkeeper | Sid is quite usable actually. |
| 20:47.35 | daemonkeeper | (if you KNOW what you are doing) |
| 20:48.06 | KaffeeJunky123 | gebjgd: well, you should always keep in mind that debian stable is getting the most frequent security updates. |
| 20:48.30 | KaffeeJunky123 | so if you're using debian in a productive enviornment you should use stable, unless you really know what you're doing |
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| 20:48.49 | gebjgd | KaffeeJunky123, i use debian testing for home use |
| 20:49.00 | KaffeeJunky123 | daemonkeeper: arch is also quiet usable when you know what you're doing :) |
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| 20:50.15 | KaffeeJunky123 | gebjgd: I'm using debain stable as my desktop system, I didn't bother with unstable yet |
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| 20:50.25 | KaffeeJunky123 | or testing |
| 20:50.27 | daemonkeeper | KaffeeJunky123: No, its not. Arch gets shiny new toys straight out of the upstream repository. This /will/ break your system by any means. Debian maintainers will have a look on such things (which does not imply it would be bug free) |
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| 20:53.02 | _stefanos_ | KaffeeJunky123: did you see my link before? |
| 20:53.32 | KaffeeJunky123 | _stefanos_: it's a 404 |
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| 20:53.58 | _stefanos_ | http://dpaste.com/582412/ |
| 20:54.25 | joe6 | i came across a message some website that kqemu is not used anymore. Is that true with the latest qemu debian vesion? |
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| 20:56.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | _stefanos_: you've mixed versions of the nvidia driver packages |
| 20:57.09 | _stefanos_ | not me, the system |
| 20:57.24 | _stefanos_ | i have tried to remove the new ones and would remove the legacy drivers as well |
| 20:57.34 | _stefanos_ | something's wrong with the scripts i would say |
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| 20:58.42 | _stefanos_ | for example i am trying to uninstall libgl1-nvidia-alternatives, and wants to uninstall all 173xx legacy drivers |
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| 21:02.27 | _stefanos_ | so kaffeeJunky123, any suggestions? |
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| 21:03.25 | snax | hiya. |
| 21:03.51 | snax | New to gnome. How to disable the lock on when screen saver kicks in ? |
| 21:04.08 | _stefanos_ | what it has to do with GNU / Linux Debian snax? |
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| 21:04.35 | snax | huh? I'm looking for desktop settings. |
| 21:04.37 | KaffeeJunky123 | _stefanos_: well, it looks like nvidia-alternative-legacy-173xx depends on libgl1-nvidia-alternatives |
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| 21:05.02 | _stefanos_ | KaffeeJunky: so basically they have screwed up the two settings? |
| 21:05.25 | _stefanos_ | because the new one depends on 275.09.07-5 version |
| 21:05.42 | KaffeeJunky123 | _stefanos_: check http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/nvidia-alternative-legacy-173xx |
| 21:05.43 | _stefanos_ | snax: System > Preferences > Screensaver |
| 21:05.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | according to this page you can set the driver version with update-alternatives --config nvidia |
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| 21:06.14 | _stefanos_ | hmm let me see it then :) |
| 21:06.15 | _stefanos_ | thanks |
| 21:06.24 | snax | _stefanos_: thanks bud. I"m dyslexic. |
| 21:06.33 | snax | I'm more of a bourne guy. |
| 21:06.45 | dyingprism | will it be hard for a pretty big noob to install debian with the smaller cd & internet connection, or should i just download the 8 dvd image? |
| 21:07.06 | guk | lol just get the netinstall |
| 21:07.17 | _stefanos_ | snax: everyone has a form of dyslexia on this planet, but that's OK. next time, RTM |
| 21:07.24 | guk | even if you just end up with a command line ... remember the command apt-get and you'll be fine |
| 21:07.25 | dyingprism | alright, i believe the last time i tried this i couldn't get my nic driver working, but i also think that was with archlinux or something else |
| 21:07.39 | _stefanos_ | dyingprism: DVD1 would do |
| 21:07.40 | dyingprism | ok thanks guk i know apt-get at least :> |
| 21:07.45 | guk | yeah ... linux has gotten pretty sharp |
| 21:07.58 | guk | I pissed myself when it got auto detection lol ... now it's pretty much click and go |
| 21:08.14 | dyingprism | i like that, but i also don't like being a big noob :( |
| 21:08.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | unless you've some realtek network cards that need binary firmware |
| 21:08.41 | KaffeeJunky123 | you can get special netinstall images for those though |
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| 21:08.53 | dyingprism | let me see what i have |
| 21:10.32 | dyingprism | well yeah it's realtek on the asus m4a87td evo |
| 21:10.33 | _stefanos_ | KaffeeJunky123: "There is only one alternative in link group nvidia: /usr/lib/nvidia/legacy-173xx" |
| 21:10.37 | dyingprism | i don't think it's obscure or anything |
| 21:10.43 | _stefanos_ | and then says "Nothing to configure" |
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| 21:12.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | _stefanos_: okay, did you configure xorg to use the proper module? |
| 21:13.02 | _stefanos_ | yes |
| 21:13.06 | _stefanos_ | and didn't work |
| 21:13.20 | KaffeeJunky123 | did you remove the nouveau stuff? |
| 21:13.44 | _stefanos_ | but right now the funny thing is that i deleted xorg.conf on purpose to see Xorg's reaction, and from somewhere(!?!?!?) found the old configuration and ran it, and now it's using nouveau's module |
| 21:13.46 | KaffeeJunky123 | it shouldn't be causing trouble, so this is just a guess |
| 21:14.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | _stefanos_: well, if I'm not mistaken the version of x.org in testing doesn't need an xorg.conf file at all |
| 21:14.51 | _stefanos_ | well i don't know that buddy |
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| 21:16.50 | _stefanos_ | so, what do you think i should do? |
| 21:17.03 | KaffeeJunky123 | remove the nouveau drivers |
| 21:17.08 | _stefanos_ | ok |
| 21:17.17 | _stefanos_ | wish me good luck then :) |
| 21:17.19 | _stefanos_ | brb |
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| 21:18.59 | chenthu | _stefanos_: hi |
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| 21:23.48 | chenthu | guys can anyone help me with a display problem after booting, i just installed a 64bit squeeze and having trouble logging in....a few people were helping me here but theya re gone for now..... |
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| 21:24.48 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: don't ask to ask, just ask |
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| 21:26.50 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: i have problem loggin in, i get a distorted or scrambled or discolored display after i installed 64bit squeeze, |
| 21:27.49 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: Previously i was asked for the Xorg.0.log file out put... ihave it now |
| 21:28.01 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: what shoould i do |
| 21:28.17 | KaffeeJunky123 | the Xorg.0.log would help |
| 21:28.30 | KaffeeJunky123 | you can paste it to a pastebin site and post the link to it here |
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| 21:29.38 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: _stefanos_ was helping me but he is of now...so if anyone could help me find a solution that would be a great help indeed |
| 21:29.55 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: ok pasting |
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| 21:31.18 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: http://paste.debian.net/124626/ |
| 21:32.05 | wechat | Is there ant good theme for gtk other than moblin theme? I use blackbox but Raleighn theme for gtk is annoyingly gray |
| 21:33.28 | dyingprism | alright i'll be back later, hopefully using debian |
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| 21:34.30 | streuner | wechat: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxStyles ? |
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| 21:36.05 | wechat | streuner: Good resource. Tonnes of information. Thx |
| 21:36.23 | streuner | judd, versions blackbox-themes |
| 21:36.24 | judd | Package blackbox-themes on i386 -- lenny: 0.3; squeeze: 0.3; sid: 0.4; wheezy: 0.4 |
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| 21:37.27 | wechat | I saw'em. |
| 21:37.43 | wechat | One with BSD wallpaper. |
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| 21:39.49 | streuner | dpkg, info blackbox-themes |
| 21:40.03 | wechat | *** lolmatic shows referal to dropbox. There is a good way to get 8 GB of space in there after 1 hour. |
| 21:40.04 | dpkg | blackbox-themes: (Themes for the Blackbox Windowmanager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.4 (sid), Packaged size: 408 kB, Installed size: 512 kB |
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| 21:41.05 | lolmatic | :) |
| 21:41.09 | wechat | ? |
| 21:41.14 | wechat | Really. Legal |
| 21:41.14 | streuner | hehe |
| 21:41.26 | streuner | you just hit a nick... |
| 21:41.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf too? |
| 21:41.34 | wechat | Just set up virtual machine and change MAC addresses |
| 21:41.38 | streuner | by accident |
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| 21:42.21 | chenthu | hold on ...give me...2 min..i have to transfer to usb and then to this system... |
| 21:42.33 | streuner | lolmatic: nice *REAL* name, btw :-P |
| 21:42.50 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: hold on ...give me...2 min..i have to transfer to usb and then to this system... |
| 21:43.01 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: no problem |
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| 21:43.52 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: you could use ssh to transfer files across your network |
| 21:44.01 | wechat | lolmatic: What is your dropbox size now? |
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| 21:44.04 | lolmatic | wechat: not after 1 hour. but every now and then someone registers and you get additional space |
| 21:44.17 | wechat | lolmatic: you |
| 21:44.23 | lolmatic | 4 gb |
| 21:44.28 | wechat | lolmatic: register yourself |
| 21:44.34 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: I like to have sshd set and running on all my systems @home, so I don't have to run around the house that much :) |
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| 21:45.50 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: :)...thats nice man |
| 21:46.44 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: i can't...this is my first linux system...i am new to linux though i have been dillydollying on linux for some time... |
| 21:47.13 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: where can i find the xorg.conf file? |
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| 21:47.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: /etc/X11 :) |
| 21:47.48 | babilen | !tell chenthu -about empty xorg.conf |
| 21:47.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: if you have one :o |
| 21:48.05 | babilen | !tell chenthu -about xorg.conf.d |
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| 21:48.35 | rajkosto | any way to get gcc 4.6 or 4.7 in my squeeze ? |
| 21:48.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: do we have xorg.conf.d in stable now? |
| 21:49.14 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: nope i dont have that |
| 21:49.26 | babilen | KaffeeJunky123: The directory has to be created manually, but is certainly used by the Xorg version in squeeze. |
| 21:49.37 | project2501b | now do i list the network interfaces under /dev ? |
| 21:49.44 | project2501b | what is the device pattern? |
| 21:49.57 | babilen | chenthu: What are you trying to do? |
| 21:50.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: he's having issues with the nouveau driver, his colours are disorted |
| 21:50.41 | wechat | lolmatic: Try to be automatic ^) http://shorl.com/dibrusosilype |
| 21:50.50 | chenthu | babilen: i have problem loggging in...after boot it loads aup and then when i am suppossed to get the loggin screen i am getting a scrambled diplay |
| 21:50.56 | babilen | Why not try the nvidia dkms in that case? |
| 21:51.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: take a look at his xorg.0.log maybe you can get more out of it then me http://paste.debian.net/124626/ |
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| 21:51.25 | streuner | project2501b: you dont make any sense to me |
| 21:51.45 | streuner | project2501b: you want list all network devices? |
| 21:52.06 | project2501b | streuner: yes, please. |
| 21:52.10 | project2501b | sorry for being unclear |
| 21:52.23 | chenthu | babilen: no idea which nvidia dkms driver i have to use...i have geforce go 6150 graphics card |
| 21:52.23 | babilen | chenthu, KaffeeJunky123: Well I know that nouveau still needs some time to be in a usable shape. (squeeze version at least) -- I would try the proprietary nvidia driver. One line install in "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" |
| 21:52.29 | lolmatic | wechat: funny script! :) |
| 21:52.31 | streuner | project2501b: its rather a job for cat /proc/* |
| 21:52.37 | project2501b | hum |
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| 21:52.55 | project2501b | streuner: so, there is no /dev/ filename that shows the nic ? |
| 21:53.09 | babilen | chenthu: I can't tell you of the top of my head which driver version you need for that card. #nvidia or somebody else in here might know. |
| 21:53.20 | streuner | project2501b: the kernel tend to shows its secrets in /proc |
| 21:53.27 | chenthu | babilen: ok...thank you.... |
| 21:53.43 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: you can take a look at the supported card list at the nvidia homepage |
| 21:53.46 | wechat | lolmatic: Read other ways -- there are links in the beggining of the post. I do not use very much dropbox. But if it is very important for you - encrease it. And it's not mine work. I'm just a reader. |
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| 21:54.00 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: ok..will now |
| 21:54.01 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: they've a dialog to point you to the correct driver version |
| 21:54.02 | babilen | chenthu: There is a long list of .... well basically what KaffeeJunky123 just said :) |
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| 21:54.42 | streuner | project2501b: i dont know any way to show them in /dev, i would rather search in /proc |
| 21:54.43 | project2501b | streuner: i am asking, because i see that ifconfig -a is showing a list of interfaces up to eth42 |
| 21:54.43 | chenthu | does .run file work in debian? |
| 21:54.50 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: ofc the drivers in debian suqueeze aren't the most recent ones, but they since your card is quiet old that shouldn't be a problem |
| 21:55.07 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123 and babilen :does .run file work in debian? |
| 21:55.08 | project2501b | streuner: since the people who own this machine are rather fucking stupid, i do not trust them that all 42 eth exist. |
| 21:55.31 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: depends on what that file actually is :) |
| 21:55.37 | sauvin | Mind your language, please. |
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| 21:55.43 | project2501b | sauvin! |
| 21:55.53 | streuner | he is staff |
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| 21:55.56 | project2501b | hits sauvin with OrangTide and Dianora |
| 21:56.02 | streuner | oh no |
| 21:56.06 | sauvin | o.O |
| 21:56.07 | project2501b | HA! |
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| 21:56.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: if you're talking about the installer for the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com, yes it works it's a shell script iirc |
| 21:56.09 | project2501b | <-- dmi |
| 21:56.15 | sauvin | Heya, DMI! |
| 21:56.19 | project2501b | hehehe |
| 21:56.20 | project2501b | :D |
| 21:56.26 | project2501b | calls Davarus over :D |
| 21:56.39 | streuner | who is Davarus? |
| 21:56.44 | project2501b | Oxymoron? |
| 21:56.48 | streuner | oh |
| 21:56.50 | project2501b | crazy dave |
| 21:56.55 | sauvin | Hrm. I'm in #debian? I thought I was in ##linux! |
| 21:56.58 | sauvin | checks map |
| 21:57.05 | project2501b | you thought you were in #c :P |
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| 21:57.07 | project2501b | admit it |
| 21:57.10 | babilen | chenthu: I wouldn't recommend to use the driver from nvidia, but the one that is packaged for debian. It is a one-line command for installation and configuration. If you use nvidia's driver you get support in #nvidia, as we will not support that. |
| 21:57.34 | sauvin | I never watched my language in #c. |
| 21:57.37 | wechat | nvidia in kernel is ugly ^ |
| 21:57.43 | streuner | project2501b: anyway, your problem is a newer problem then |
| 21:57.55 | project2501b | streuner: my problem is a layer 8 problem. |
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| 21:58.12 | KaffeeJunky123 | it's always a layer 8 problem :o |
| 21:58.14 | streuner | great |
| 21:58.38 | KaffeeJunky123 | I'd suggest to completly replace layer 8 |
| 21:58.48 | chenthu | babilen: non one at #nvidia is responding....hmm....i am trying everythin... |
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| 21:59.12 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123 and babilen : can i sue the drivers from here?... http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-173xx |
| 21:59.18 | babilen | !tell chenthu -about nvidia dkms |
| 21:59.20 | project2501b | KaffeeJunky123: yeah, layer 8 in this case is the "central it linux sysadmins" :D |
| 21:59.22 | project2501b | anyway |
| 21:59.24 | project2501b | back to convo |
| 21:59.31 | babilen | chenthu: You need the 173 legacy ones? |
| 21:59.32 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123 and babilen : i mean legacy |
| 21:59.36 | streuner | project2501b: anyway, you have always something new :-P |
| 21:59.53 | chenthu | babilen: yeah...why? |
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| 22:00.06 | babilen | chenthu: "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms-173xx" in that case. |
| 22:00.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: if nvidia.com told you that's the correct version for your card, go ahead and type sudo aptitude install nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-173xx into your shell |
| 22:00.42 | KaffeeJunky123 | ofc only if you've got aptitude ^^ |
| 22:00.50 | KaffeeJunky123 | try apt-get otherwise :o |
| 22:01.12 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123 not connected to net...i could download then transfer through iusb |
| 22:01.12 | babilen | !nvidia dkms-173xx |
| 22:01.12 | dpkg | For Squeeze users (GeForce 5xxx / GeForce FX GPUs supported). Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. |
| 22:01.19 | babilen | chenthu: ^^^ do that |
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| 22:01.35 | babilen | Oh, you don't have a network connection? How hard is that to achieve? |
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| 22:02.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: maybe he's got no spare ethernet cable available ^^ |
| 22:02.17 | boudiccas | chenthu; how are you connecting <now> then please? |
| 22:02.24 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: or the good old binary firmware issue |
| 22:02.31 | Scorp1us | Hi. I am trying to use apt-get update and it says W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA |
| 22:02.32 | KaffeeJunky123 | boudiccas: he's on a different machine |
| 22:02.34 | chenthu | babilen: i have only my wifi connection and a 3g data stick...no drivers for 3g stick through terminal and my b43 driver is f***** up |
| 22:02.37 | babilen | KaffeeJunky123: All of that can be solves, hence my question. |
| 22:02.49 | boudiccas | kafeeah right, thanks i must've missed that |
| 22:02.58 | chenthu | boudiccas: i am using another laptop which runs on windows 7 |
| 22:02.58 | Scorp1us | "W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems." So I run that and it still says the same thing |
| 22:03.06 | Scorp1us | what should I do? |
| 22:03.15 | wechat | Scorp1us: what repo? |
| 22:03.18 | babilen | chenthu: Well, you might want to solve the network connection first. It might just be that you need firmware |
| 22:03.19 | KaffeeJunky123 | boudiccas: it was only implicitly implied by what he said, so it's not your fault ;) |
| 22:03.23 | babilen | !tell chenthu -about b43 |
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| 22:04.16 | chenthu | babilen: already checked abt that b43 .....wols tcw and few aother have already tried helping....but of vain |
| 22:04.48 | streuner | you out of luck, then :-) |
| 22:05.25 | chenthu | :( |
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| 22:05.40 | babilen | chenthu: Sigh -- To be honest, I will not work with you on that now. We can do it in 10-11h and I'm all yours ... |
| 22:06.08 | babilen | chenthu: I can assure you that there *is* a solution to your problem. You have no way to connect to ethernet in the meantime? |
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| 22:06.15 | Scorp1us | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.23 | streuner | heh |
| 22:06.58 | chenthu | babilen: thats ok...what ever youo gives have given is more than anyone could expect...its azmazing that i get hope when i come here....you guys are really helpful |
| 22:07.14 | boudiccas | not all guys |
| 22:07.27 | boudiccas | some are female |
| 22:07.33 | streuner | argh |
| 22:07.40 | chenthu | babilen: i have a 3g stick which worked on my 32bit debian squeeze |
| 22:07.58 | streuner | Scorp1us: that makes no sense |
| 22:08.06 | chenthu | babilen: it had the drivers automatically...so does that count here? |
| 22:08.43 | babilen | chenthu: I thought you had wireless via some broadcom chipset too? |
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| 22:09.11 | chenthu | babilen: yeah i ahve that and thats why i was trying to install b43 drivers |
| 22:09.38 | chenthu | babilen: i have both....the only thing i dont have is a wired ethernet cable connection |
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| 22:10.46 | babilen | right, Ok ... some things /you/ can do right now. Get the pciid of your network card (it is the alphanumerical identifier in brackets at the end of "lspci -nn|grep -i network") |
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| 22:11.37 | chenthu | babilen; already got it...in min will give it |
| 22:11.51 | babilen | chenthu: Once you have that we can gather more information about your chipset. Do you have firmware installed already? What is the output of "modprobe -r b43 ; modprobe b43 ; dmesg | tail -23" ? Does it complain about missing firmware? |
| 22:12.36 | chenthu | babilen: [14e4:4312] |
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| 22:12.48 | babilen | chenthu: There might be two reasons for your problem: You either have a chipset that is not supported by your kernel version (or worse: *any* kernel version) or you need firmware. Argh, actually three as it could be both at the same time :) |
| 22:12.59 | babilen | ,pciid 14e4:4312 |
| 22:13.00 | judd | [14e4:4312] is 'BCM4311 802.11a/b/g' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4312 http://wiki.debian.org/wl and the out-of-tree 'wl' module. |
| 22:13.44 | chenthu | judd; thank you will try.... |
| 22:14.09 | chenthu | babilen: modprobe -r 43 result : PCI INT A disabled |
| 22:14.50 | babilen | chenthu: One second please |
| 22:15.02 | chenthu | babilen: k |
| 22:15.02 | streuner | chenthu: judd is a bot... |
| 22:15.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | streuner: it's never a fault to be kind to bots |
| 22:15.40 | chenthu | streuner: lol..ok thanks for the info |
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| 22:15.51 | chenthu | KaffeeJunky123: lol.... |
| 22:15.59 | streuner | KaffeeJunky123: hehe :-) |
| 22:16.10 | LtL | chenthu: I'm not sure if this applies, I used the package b43-fwcutter to get my broadcom chipset firmware. I have that chipset on a PCMCIA wifi card. |
| 22:16.31 | KaffeeJunky123 | streuner: bots got feelings too, well atleast if you programm them to have some :o |
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| 22:17.08 | streuner | KaffeeJunky123: we are all programmed, so what? :-P |
| 22:17.33 | chenthu | LtL: LtL... when i was intalling the firmware i got from dpkg's link it asked me for a b43-fwcutter too and i successfuklly installed that |
| 22:17.56 | chenthu | LtL: the only thing i couldnt install is the firmware |
| 22:17.58 | th0r | chenthu: those folders I put up didn't work? |
| 22:18.13 | chenthu | thOr..nope |
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| 22:18.43 | chenthu | th0r: i tried but i could never get installed |
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| 22:18.50 | th0r | chenthu: well, inside the first gz was a second. That one should have had the files that b43-fwcutter needed |
| 22:19.19 | chenthu | b43-fwcutter installed perfectly but not the firmward |
| 22:19.22 | babilen | chenthu: There are a couple of modules that claim to support your device. It'll take a bit of time to test all of these. See http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx for an overview. |
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| 22:19.33 | th0r | chenthu: the important question...did you get it working? |
| 22:19.43 | LtL | chenthu: An 'aptitude install b43-fwcutter' should install the firmware and module I believe. |
| 22:19.52 | chenthu | babilen: ok will try |
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| 22:20.22 | chenthu | Ltl : the reason i am installing the wiofi driver is to access net on my linux system to solve my graphix problem |
| 22:20.27 | fabieux | hey everyone |
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| 22:20.38 | chenthu | th0r: no |
| 22:20.51 | LtL | chenthu: been there, done that! good luck |
| 22:21.42 | babilen | chenthu: I'll help you tomorrow morning (UTC) if you still need help. You can probably get it to work with wl (I would be surprised if not), but a free module + firmware might be a nicer/better solution. |
| 22:22.10 | fabieux | I've got a file system I created in a directory using debootstrap. It's being served out to client for diskless boot via NFS. The OS however does not recognise any hardware attached to the nodes. Anyone know what I'm missing to get the hard drives to be recognised? |
| 22:22.43 | chenthu | babilen: sure would try my best till then thaznk you very much for your time and patience |
| 22:23.06 | streuner | hands some sugar to chenthu |
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| 22:24.22 | chenthu | streuner: tq |
| 22:24.26 | streuner | sorry to be rude, but its a just joke, in order to keep in mind that someone who running in years (wols and TCW) arent able to help you... |
| 22:24.39 | babilen | chenthu: Try it with http://wiki.debian.org/wl to get online first. There might be better solutions to look at in the future, but the most important thing should be to get you online. Once that goal has been achieved support is certainly easier. |
| 22:24.44 | chenthu | th0r: hey i just have to use tar command to the file u gave right? |
| 22:25.02 | chenthu | th0r: hey i mean after extracting from the first one |
| 22:25.16 | babilen | chenthu: broadcom is a bit strange in regard to their pciid usage, so we have to make sure that you use the right module and firmware. (in short: work) |
| 22:26.19 | chenthu | babilen: yeah....will try now..if not then i will better go for the 32 bit and migrate to 64 likr explained in the debian wiki... |
| 22:26.23 | th0r | chenthu: right, the second will come apart with tar -xvzf <filename> It contains the two broadcom files that bw43-fwcutter looks for. At least for my card...but I think most of the broadcom cards use the same. I know the module name you listed this morning is in those b43 folders |
| 22:26.35 | chenthu | babilen: had my 32 bit working well today |
| 22:27.40 | th0r | chenthu: the readme in the second (inner) gz file tells the steps I needed to get my wifi working with b43-fwcutter |
| 22:27.44 | chenthu | th0r: will try again |
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| 22:28.24 | babilen | chenthu: But you might just try to get the firmware going. If b43 is indeed the right module for your card. (It might very well be) than you need the firmware. It is a bit of work to "cut it from the windows driver" |
| 22:28.30 | babilen | chenthu: Best of luck! |
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| 22:29.03 | th0r | babilen: that work is done for him. I sent him the b43 and b43 legacy folders that b43-fwcutter created for me. |
| 22:29.05 | chenthu | babilen: thank you..... :)...have a good night or day then |
| 22:29.20 | babilen | th0r: \o\ (you saint) |
| 22:29.24 | streuner | night in germany |
| 22:29.37 | streuner | So 31. Jul 00:29:34 CEST 2011 |
| 22:29.44 | babilen | s/germany/Europe |
| 22:30.01 | streuner | slaps babilien with a large trout |
| 22:30.47 | ompaul | streuner: night is in more than one place you know |
| 22:31.05 | streuner | dont cut hairs :-) |
| 22:31.05 | ompaul | the time may vary by a little bit but not too much |
| 22:31.22 | ompaul | you are trying to tie it all into one place |
| 22:31.29 | ompaul | there are places north and south |
| 22:31.34 | fabieux | Do I have to install a praticular system to get hard drives to be recognised at booth up on a debootstrapped debian install? |
| 22:31.41 | chenthu | babilen: good night then |
| 22:31.45 | babilen | chenthu: ta |
| 22:32.13 | chenthu | th0r: dude iwhere is the fwcutter2 file? |
| 22:32.40 | project2501b | are there no squeeze backports for debian? |
| 22:32.43 | project2501b | ... |
| 22:32.52 | project2501b | are there no squeeze backports for powerpc? |
| 22:33.11 | project2501b | and security is down :( |
| 22:33.42 | babilen | project2501b: There are |
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| 22:34.04 | th0r | chenthu: just a sec...let me take a look at the notes. |
| 22:34.09 | babilen | ,versions mutt --arch powerpc |
| 22:34.10 | judd | Package mutt on powerpc -- lenny: 1.5.18-6; lenny-backports: 1.5.20-5~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.5.20-9+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1.5.21-4~bpo60+1; sid: 1.5.21-5; wheezy: 1.5.21-5 |
| 22:34.20 | babilen | for example |
| 22:34.40 | streuner | someone using mutt |
| 22:34.49 | streuner | in stable |
| 22:34.50 | chenthu | th0r: ok....and do i have tio issue the command one by one...cause idid like that yeterday and dint ework |
| 22:35.25 | project2501b | must have hit the wrong archive then |
| 22:35.34 | streuner | project2501b: packages.debian.org would tell you more... |
| 22:35.58 | streuner | packages.debian.org/<package> |
| 22:36.17 | babilen | actually http://backports.debian.org would, but I'm sure project2501b is aware of that URL |
| 22:36.21 | th0r | chenthu: let's take it a step at a time...it is not a real involved process and shouldn't take long. |
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| 22:36.28 | project2501b | streuner: yeah... sorry, i was not thinking. i am doing my first debootstrap :D |
| 22:36.31 | project2501b | (loving it, too) |
| 22:36.40 | streuner | babilen: why he asking this kink of question then? |
| 22:36.41 | th0r | chenthu: first, do you know what broadcom card you have? |
| 22:36.58 | chenthu | yeah... |
| 22:36.59 | project2501b | streuner: cuz i'm getting 404 from backports.debian.org about powerpc |
| 22:37.04 | project2501b | + arch |
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| 22:37.08 | streuner | hm |
| 22:37.33 | chenthu | th0r: yeah |
| 22:37.36 | streuner | project2501b: basically nobody has an idea about debootstrap here, maybe only dondelelcaro... |
| 22:37.49 | chenthu | th0r: BCM4312 |
| 22:37.55 | th0r | chenthu: ? a bw4310? 4312? |
| 22:38.09 | project2501b | streuner: thanks. appreciate it. i'm doing great on my own. |
| 22:38.25 | th0r | chenthu: ok. have you installed b43-fwcutter yet? |
| 22:38.42 | chenthu | th0r yeah i did |
| 22:38.50 | streuner | project2501b: good luck, you need it then, or you just ask in #debian-boot and someone is willing to answer |
| 22:39.07 | th0r | chenthu: did you take apart the first gz file and check the Readme.txt file? |
| 22:39.44 | project2501b | streuner: looks easy enough so far. the big stick will come when i reboot this ibm p570 into debian |
| 22:39.49 | chenthu | th0r: yeah...but my doubt is do i ahve to but in all the commands at one? |
| 22:39.54 | Scorp1us | yeah, i am pretty confused |
| 22:39.58 | project2501b | and the kernel will decide to re-number the interfaces. |
| 22:40.00 | th0r | chenthu: no, one line at a time |
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| 22:40.25 | th0r | chenthu: and sudo is not enabled in debian by default, so you will probably have to do 'su -' to get to root |
| 22:40.42 | chenthu | th0r: ok do it now will post result |
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| 22:41.37 | Scorp1us | http://pastebin.com/BjjvGXPC |
| 22:41.45 | Scorp1us | that's the whole thing |
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| 22:45.56 | wechat | Scorp1us: http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ |
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| 22:46.40 | babilen | Scorp1us: Don't use ftp.debian.org -- better use ftp.CC.debian.org and replace CC with your country's code. That being said, you might have to upgrade debian-archive-keyring -- you sure you want to run sid? |
| 22:46.45 | themill | wechat: that site is terrible. please don't recommend it |
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| 22:48.04 | zleslie | Howdy |
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| 22:49.47 | zleslie | I am having trouble getting zfs root working on debian kfreebsd. When I go through the installer, I get an error when installing the bootloader, looks like #6134030 to me, but there are no updates. Also, when I reboot, even though I get an error, and do root (hd0) at the grub prompt and do kfreebsd /@/boot/kfreebsd... ; boot, it loads the kernel |
| 22:50.01 | zleslie | But I think I am not passing the root fs correctly, because it fails |
| 22:50.05 | zleslie | uptime 9s |
| 22:50.24 | zleslie | anyone know how I might solve this, or how I pass the correct rootfs option? |
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| 22:51.29 | ajdu89 | hi I would need help |
| 22:51.37 | ajdu89 | if anyone can help me pls |
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| 22:51.55 | streuner | no, not unless you tell us details... |
| 22:52.10 | ajdu89 | sorry I was just checking first if anyone is alive here :D |
| 22:52.12 | ajdu89 | the thing is |
| 22:52.17 | ajdu89 | I am newbie to debian |
| 22:52.28 | streuner | just ask... |
| 22:52.32 | th0r | ajdu89: five lines and you still have said nothing about the problem |
| 22:52.40 | ajdu89 | and I've somehow managed to setup server |
| 22:52.43 | ajdu89 | but |
| 22:52.53 | ajdu89 | when I try to |
| 22:53.01 | ajdu89 | setup in bind |
| 22:53.04 | ajdu89 | NS servers |
| 22:53.05 | wechat | themill: why? |
| 22:53.13 | ajdu89 | they could not be resolved |
| 22:53.25 | ajdu89 | I've put zone in named.conf |
| 22:53.31 | ajdu89 | and everything |
| 22:53.31 | th0r | ajdu89: you are going to get nowhere like that. Put a detailed description on ONE line so people can read it |
| 22:53.42 | themill | wechat: it encourages people to mix releases, add in third-party repos with low-quality packages and generally make a mess of their systems. |
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| 22:54.08 | themill | ajdu89: less with the enter key, more with the details. |
| 22:54.18 | ajdu89 | kk kk |
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| 22:54.52 | zleslie | So I take it that nobody is running kfreebsd with zfs root then, eh? |
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| 22:55.01 | ajdu89 | I cannot resolve NS servers linked to my domains, I have put zone in named.conf file and I've made .db file but still not success |
| 22:55.34 | project2501b | do i need any specific packages to run gpfs under debian? |
| 22:55.53 | project2501b | or do i just reboot and the kernel inserts the appropriate module? |
| 22:56.05 | Bushmills | ajdu89: are you querying your own server, or another server? |
| 22:56.23 | ajdu89 | Bushmills I have dedicated server from leaseweb |
| 22:56.37 | Bushmills | are you querying your own server, or another server? |
| 22:56.57 | ajdu89 | my own |
| 22:57.06 | Bushmills | how do you query it? |
| 22:57.43 | Scorp1us | what is sid? |
| 22:57.50 | Bushmills | !sid |
| 22:57.50 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 22:57.51 | Scorp1us | this is a mythtv box I am trying to upgrade |
| 22:58.00 | ajdu89 | Bushmills I don't know if I understand you well...what do you mean by query? |
| 22:58.06 | Scorp1us | oh I don't need sid |
| 22:58.23 | Bushmills | a name server query? you send a request to it. |
| 22:58.26 | zleslie | ajdu89: your issues are not debian specific. Can you tell us if your bind is even listening to a port? |
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| 22:58.52 | Scorp1us | Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/dists/main/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found |
| 22:59.09 | chenthu | th0r: u there? |
| 22:59.13 | ajdu89 | guys I am newbie to this stuff...I have managed to install bind, apache and phpmyadmin by tutorial but everything else is a bit new to me |
| 22:59.28 | th0r | chenthu: yup |
| 22:59.51 | Scorp1us | what should my sources list be set to? |
| 23:00.07 | Bushmills | ajdu89: install dig. read about it. learn how to query your name server with it. |
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| 23:00.14 | valdyn_ | !sources.list |
| 23:00.14 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
| 23:00.16 | zleslie | Scorp1us: that is completely dependend on what you want to do with your system(s) |
| 23:00.17 | wechat | Scorplus:http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html#13 |
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| 23:00.47 | th0r | chenthu: did those three commands work? |
| 23:01.20 | chenthu | th0r: while executing mthe second command "sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o3." it says cannot open input file broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o3. |
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| 23:03.09 | ajdu89 | !bind |
| 23:03.10 | dpkg | bind is probably the Berkeley Internet Name Daemon, a Domain Name System (DNS) server. To install: "aptitude install bind9 bind9-doc". See also <bind9 lenny>, <bind9 chroot>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bind9 https://www.isc.org/software/bind #bind on irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:03.23 | th0r | chenthu: make sure you have the command entered correctly. The command should end in .o, not .o3 |
| 23:04.06 | chenthu | th0r: k... |
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| 23:05.30 | wechat | Scorp1us: netselect, netselect-apt http://debian-br.sourceforge.net/docs/sgml/apt-howto-en/online/ch-basico.html |
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| 23:05.40 | th0r | chenthu: I just ran that command here and it worked fine. Make sure you are in the same folder that you put the .bz2 file....after the first command there should be a folder called broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5 there |
| 23:08.03 | th0r | chenthu: do a 'ls /lib/firmware' and see if the folders b43 and b43legacy are there |
| 23:08.18 | zleslie | is there a different channel for debian kfreebsd? |
| 23:08.28 | zleslie | or a mailing list ? |
| 23:08.37 | Scorp1us | there is somethign wrong with my apt database or something |
| 23:08.47 | chenthu | th0r: ok |
| 23:08.47 | jaxxdrew | Hi cannot find a way to change font in debian? |
| 23:08.59 | zleslie | Scorp1us: paste your sources |
| 23:09.15 | themill | !show sources.list Scorp1us |
| 23:09.15 | dpkg | Scorp1us: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
| 23:09.50 | th0r | chenthu: does ok mean the folders are there? |
| 23:09.53 | valdyn_ | jaxxdrew: why cant you? |
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| 23:10.49 | jaxxdrew | I cannot find it :( Im use to ubuntu sorry |
| 23:11.07 | valdyn_ | jaxxdrew: it can be done the same way as in ubuntu |
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| 23:11.26 | wechat | jaxxdrew: .gtkrc string Font="" |
| 23:11.30 | chenthu | th0r: legacy is there but not b43,,,instead it has bnx2 |
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| 23:11.41 | valdyn_ | wechat: no! |
| 23:12.04 | jaxxdrew | k thanks |
| 23:12.19 | th0r | chenthu: bnx2 comes from somewhere else. If you still have the folders you downloaded this morning copy them to /lib/firmware. There should be two...b43 and b43legacy |
| 23:12.58 | Scorp1us | http://pastebin.com/2ueXtspU |
| 23:13.03 | chenthu | th0r: ok coppyig now |
| 23:13.25 | th0r | chenthu: when the copy is done, issue the command 'modprobe b43'. |
| 23:13.36 | th0r | chenthu: you have to do that command as root |
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| 23:13.42 | valdyn_ | Scorp1us: why is that an etch system according to first line in sources.list ? |
| 23:13.56 | themill | Scorp1us: both lines of your sources.list are wrong... what release of debian do you think you're actually running? |
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| 23:14.20 | Scorp1us | this is an old mythtv box |
| 23:14.44 | Scorp1us | Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid \n \l |
| 23:15.41 | valdyn_ | Scorp1us: change etch to squeeze in first line , add squeeze between org and main in 2nd line |
| 23:16.18 | themill | Scorp1us: your box sounds like an impressive mess. Could you tell us what you've done to it in the past so we can work out how to fix it? |
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| 23:16.47 | Scorp1us | it is an impressive mess |
| 23:17.11 | Scorp1us | it is a mythtv box, that I tried to use some S3-based video card on. |
| 23:17.17 | wechat | jaxxdrew: http://dpaste.de/pXNj/ fontsconfig |
| 23:17.45 | Scorp1us | I don't use it for video anymore. I am getting ready to transfer it to another computer. I wanted to u/g everything then move the disk |
| 23:18.29 | themill | Scorp1us: could you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy libc6 dpkg perl apt" for us? |
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| 23:19.14 | Scorp1us | http://pastebin.com/ii8HkY0F |
| 23:19.20 | nsadmin2 | what's the typical formula for booting an iso located on an esata drive? (actually I could also use a usb cable on it) |
| 23:20.40 | Scorp1us | formula? just your bios needs to support booting over esata |
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| 23:21.05 | dyingprism | :> |
| 23:21.07 | wechat | Scorp1us: sudo aptitude -f -s install |
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| 23:21.31 | Scorp1us | Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. |
| 23:21.41 | themill | dpkg: tell Scorp1us about etch->lenny |
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| 23:22.23 | themill | Scorp1us: first, upgrade that box to lenny; hopefully that will go ok given that it's actually a mix of etch, pre-lenny, lenny and pre-squeeze. |
| 23:22.35 | themill | Scorp1us: then, upgrade it to squeeze. /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze. |
| 23:23.18 | TBotNik | All: Another quick Q: How you you change Settings in Pidgin to control the width of the right hand frame with the users. Want it to default to 1", but alway at 1/2" |
| 23:23.29 | chenthu | th0r: finished and i ran modprobe b43... |
| 23:23.50 | th0r | chenthu: then the command 'iwconfig'. You should see wlan0 now |
| 23:24.23 | wechat | Scorp1us: pre Lenny? Change everything to "lenny" in sources.list. Then "aptitude safe-upgrade". But if you installed packages from sid or sqeeze it will *not* remove them. |
| 23:24.25 | chenthu | th0r: yeah it does |
| 23:24.38 | chenthu | th0r: lol thats great |
| 23:24.42 | th0r | chenthu: then one last item. |
| 23:24.56 | chenthu | th0r: yeah tell me |
| 23:25.02 | th0r | chenthu: as root, 'nano /etc/modules'. Add 'b43' on a line by itself |
| 23:25.06 | wechat | Scorp1us: once i used "sudo apt-get purge --reinstall package" |
| 23:25.41 | th0r | chenthu: if you have a normal default modules file the only entry is 'loop'. Put 'b43' on the line right below loop |
| 23:25.54 | th0r | chenthu: (no quotes, of course) |
| 23:27.02 | Scorp1us | how do I upgrade to lenny? just change the sources to waht the bot has? |
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| 23:27.27 | chenthu | th0r: where is the line "loop" |
| 23:27.32 | wechat | th0r: How to add ifup eth0 to start level. Maybe my avahi is broken. I have to up the network myself. |
| 23:27.45 | th0r | chenthu: it should be in the file /etc/modules. |
| 23:27.48 | dpic | hey, i'm trying to boot from debian in a server (different machine than it was installed on) be moving the hard drive to it, but it keeps getting stuck at "Starting manual resume from disk" |
| 23:27.55 | dpic | if i put it back in the original machine, ir works |
| 23:28.01 | chenthu | th0r: ok |
| 23:28.12 | th0r | wechat: if the interface is defined in /etc/network/interfaces it should come up at boot |
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| 23:28.38 | th0r | chenthu: just add 'b43' to that file on a line by itself |
| 23:28.43 | Scorp1us | i keep gettign singatures cannot be verified errors |
| 23:29.01 | Scorp1us | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 23:29.11 | chenthu | th0r: how to open the file to add? |
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| 23:30.17 | th0r | chenthu: open a terminal and log in as root (su -). Then issue the command 'nano /etc/modules'. That will open the file in the editor nano. Cursor down to the line below the word 'loop' and add 'b43' on that line. Use Cntrl X to exit and answer the prompts to save the file |
| 23:31.01 | Scorp1us | my aptitude does not understand safe-upgrade |
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| 23:31.28 | themill | Scorp1us: it's too old... just follow the release notes for etch->lenny. |
| 23:31.43 | themill | Scorp1us: or alternatively, reinstall that box... that would probably be easier. |
| 23:31.56 | wechat | Sorplus: full-upgrade, dist-upgrade |
| 23:31.59 | chenthu | th0r: done |
| 23:32.09 | chenthu | th0r: what to do now? |
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| 23:32.16 | th0r | chenthu: are you using gnome? |
| 23:32.26 | wechat | Scorplus: from netinstall to base system ;) |
| 23:32.27 | chenthu | th0r: yeah |
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| 23:33.05 | th0r | chenthu: in the system tray you will find the network manager. I don't use gnome and don't remember exactly, but it should look like maybe a computer, or a couple of them, or maybe a wifi tower? |
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| 23:33.43 | th0r | chenthu: you use that to connect to your wifi network. And in the future, the wifi should come up automatically on boot up. |
| 23:33.55 | chenthu | th0r: the reason i am installing wifi driver is because i have a display problem with loggin in |
| 23:34.29 | chenthu | th0r: people here asked me to get internet so i could update my nvidia driver |
| 23:34.44 | Scorp1us | k, thanks everyone |
| 23:34.56 | th0r | chenthu: I have no experience with nvidia at all, but there should be someone around who can help with that. |
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| 23:35.58 | chenthu | th0r: wow man...how could u know so much abt this drivers?,,,,,u were amazing patient and very detail...thank you so much for your help |
| 23:36.26 | chenthu | th0r: u must be a pro...and dont worry abt the nvidia will get over it npw |
| 23:36.45 | linux_inferno | whats the best way to set up an LDAP ? |
| 23:37.00 | th0r | chenthu: used to be pro...now I am retired. Sitting in the marina on my sailboat...waiting for fall so I can start south <smile> |
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| 23:37.50 | chenthu | thor: lol...ok...so then i should address u as sir...... |
| 23:38.06 | th0r | chenthu: no...I worked for a living <smile> |
| 23:38.43 | phogg | linux_inferno: best is relative. There's no one true answer. Do it however you like. |
| 23:39.01 | chenthu | th0r: how to switch my wlan up?,,,it says down |
| 23:39.32 | th0r | chenthu: that is all handled by the network manager. It will list the wifi systems it hears, and you choose which one you want it to connect to |
| 23:39.50 | chenthu | th0r: everyone works for a living but what u diod today was working for someones trouble....thats really wonderful |
| 23:40.16 | th0r | can someone who uses gnome help chenthu get the network manager set up? |
| 23:40.19 | chenthu | th0r: i cant go to netwrk manager as i told u...i cvcant login...i can only use termianl |
| 23:41.30 | th0r | chenthu: oh....I thought you could get to gnome. Well you can define the network in /etc/network/interfaces and access the net that way. do you know the ssid for your wifi network? |
| 23:41.37 | wechat | chenthu: Wi-fi? |
| 23:41.44 | Scorp1us | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! <-- why is my list huge is I am using the lenny sources lines? |
| 23:42.13 | chenthu | wechat: teah but need termibnal command |
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| 23:42.18 | action09 | hi all |
| 23:42.52 | linux_inferno | phogg: Well I guess what your saying is I should just wing it? |
| 23:43.02 | th0r | chenthu: do you have the ssid for your wifi network? |
| 23:43.39 | chenthu | th0r: yeah i do |
| 23:43.54 | action09 | on debian stable with http://mozilla.debian.net/ i"ve got an "unmet dependencies; iceweasel : Depend: xulrunner-5.0 (>= 5.0-3~bpo60+1) will not be installed" |
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| 23:44.04 | chenthu | th0r: and the wap 2 key |
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| 23:44.20 | th0r | chenthu: ok....just give me a minute |
| 23:44.23 | themill | Scorp1us: your apt doesn't have the key that was used to sign the archive for lenny. (that key was distributed in 2008... that's how far behind you are on that box) |
| 23:44.39 | wechat | action09: dpkg -l | grep xul |
| 23:44.46 | chenthu | th0r: ok |
| 23:44.47 | themill | action09: what command gives that error |
| 23:44.49 | Scorp1us | there's no like "apt-get keys" |
| 23:44.52 | Scorp1us | ? |
| 23:45.12 | action09 | wechat nothing. |
| 23:45.16 | themill | Scorp1us: you need to install the debian-archive-keyring package |
| 23:45.21 | phogg | linux_inferno: don't wing it, but don't worry overly about what's right and wrong. Make a plan, execute it. |
| 23:45.26 | action09 | themill # apt-get update && apt-get install iceweasel -y |
| 23:45.42 | themill | action09: that's not the command that mozilla.debian.net tells you to use, is it>? |
| 23:45.57 | dpic | "PM: Starting manual resume from disk" seems to indicate that it's resuming from hibernation, but it just does this when booting from this machine. plugging it in to the other machine works. |
| 23:45.58 | wechat | Scorp1us: # wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | apt-key add - |
| 23:46.13 | dpic | "P1020296.JPG" and below documents the messages here: http://ge.tt/8CBPOO6 |
| 23:46.14 | themill | wechat: ? |
| 23:46.23 | action09 | themill no, it's apt-get install -t squeeze-backports iceweasel but same result |
| 23:46.35 | phogg | people still use apt-get? |
| 23:46.49 | linux_inferno | phogg: do you suggest any packages for this? I was looking at openLDAPServer |
| 23:46.57 | themill | action09: try aptitude instead, and if that doesn't work, "/msg dpkg bat" and provide some more details |
| 23:47.14 | linux_inferno | apt-get is bad? |
| 23:47.15 | th0r | chenthu: you can bring up the wifi using the iwconfig command and then the ifconfig command. |
| 23:47.22 | Scorp1us | awesome. thanks |
| 23:47.52 | chenthu | th0r: yeah just found out,,,and found my network |
| 23:47.52 | phogg | linux_inferno: on Debian that's the best bet. Using 389ds on Debian is tricky and as for the other options I am not familiar with them |
| 23:48.04 | wechat | themill: What? I have showed apt-key command. |
| 23:48.19 | themill | wechat: how is that going to help him? |
| 23:48.31 | phogg | linux_inferno: apt-get is not so much bad as old |
| 23:48.35 | chenthu | th0r: thank you so much sir.....u were really helpful..... |
| 23:49.01 | linux_inferno | phogg: old? replaced by what? aptitude? |
| 23:49.04 | th0r | chenthu: no problem. Sorry but I have not messed with bringing up a network from the terminal in a long time. Can't remember how to handle wpa encryption |
| 23:49.08 | phogg | linux_inferno: yes |
| 23:49.26 | linux_inferno | I thought apt-get was a call to aptitude |
| 23:49.38 | phogg | th0r: best just to use wpa_supplicant for all wireless, IMO |
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| 23:49.59 | phogg | linux_inferno: not last I knew |
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| 23:50.15 | chenthu | th0r: thats ok sir o am giveing some work to google i know u are already burdened by too mcuh questins :-P |
| 23:50.25 | wechat | linux_inferno: aptitude is cleanier at work than apt-get. |
| 23:50.28 | th0r | phogg: yeah...reading about that now. I haven't used /network/interfaces since before they invented wpa <hee!> |
| 23:50.49 | linux_inferno | wechat: cleanier at work? lol what |
| 23:51.07 | th0r | chenthu: give me a minute...I think I can get you the info you need. |
| 23:51.27 | phogg | th0r: well, for just wep you can use just interfaces, but if wpa/wpa2 is needed (and it should be) I never found a way to work without wpa_supplicant. That said it's a bit tricky to configure correctly, which is why NM is popular I guess |
| 23:51.28 | wechat | themill: He wants to shut up the key not-existance warning. |
| 23:51.42 | themill | wechat: and you think that importing the opera key will solve that problem? |
| 23:51.47 | babilen | chenthu: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpa_supplicant |
| 23:51.57 | wechat | linux_inferno: Does aptitude have "aptitude autoremove"&&&??? |
| 23:52.16 | wechat | themill: no, it was an example |
| 23:52.31 | themill | wechat: not a useful one, however. |
| 23:52.34 | wechat | * Opera is banned? ^ |
| 23:52.38 | babilen | chenthu: Also read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz |
| 23:52.49 | wechat | Know the commands is usefull skill |
| 23:52.57 | linux_inferno | wechat: aptitude has autoclean and remove |
| 23:52.58 | th0r | chenthu: and phogg, I think this will work, it is at least worth a shot....http://pastebin.com/gcC88VPw |
| 23:53.37 | th0r | chenthu: that comes from this website....http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpa_supplicant |
| 23:53.50 | babilen | th0r: :) |
| 23:54.05 | chenthu | babilen: thank you |
| 23:54.06 | th0r | chenthu: you need to edit that file with your network name (ssid) and the wpa passphrase. |
| 23:54.16 | chenthu | th0r: thank you sir |
| 23:54.30 | phogg | th0r: I use wpa-roam /path/to/wpa_supplicant.conf instead |
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| 23:54.37 | dvs | yeah |
| 23:54.58 | th0r | chenthu: then use that file to replace /etc/network/interfaces. And remember....no guarantees <smile> |
| 23:55.01 | phogg | but it's probably not necessary if you only need one connection |
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| 23:55.18 | wechat | linux_inferno: I'm about dependencies not about packages in /var/cache/apt/archieves |
| 23:55.25 | chenthu | th0r: ok lol |
| 23:55.34 | th0r | phogg: I would settle for one connection. Heck, I am impressed I was able to get the card working! |
| 23:56.04 | phogg | th0r: nothing like troubleshooting unfamiliar problems remotely by talking someone through them |
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| 23:56.36 | th0r | phogg: well....in the old days we ran to linux for just that sort of challenge <smile> |
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| 23:58.55 | th0r | chenthu: once you get that file edited and into /etc/network, use the ifup command to try and get the wifi card to connect to the internet |
| 23:59.25 | th0r | need to walk the dog...be back in a bit. |