| 00:00.15 | chenthu | th0r: :) |
| 00:01.26 | dyingprism | ok so should i work at nouveau drivers or the nvidia one? the proprietary driver wouldn't work in ubuntu, that's kinda why i installed debian. i have a 460 gtx |
| 00:01.38 | dyingprism | kinda wanna play eve and stuff |
| 00:01.52 | ardian_irccloud | HI I have Debian dualbooted with windows. but somehow Windows isn't in the list but the file system is there, how do I edit the grub menu list ? |
| 00:02.10 | daemonkeeper | ardian_irccloud: Install os-prober and try again |
| 00:02.19 | wechat | ardian_irccloud: `update-grub` |
| 00:02.25 | wechat | yes |
| 00:02.35 | ardian_irccloud | okay thank you |
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| 00:03.02 | KaffeeJunky123 | dyingprism: if you want to play games, get the binary drivers |
| 00:03.33 | dyingprism | thanks KaffeeJunky123 |
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| 00:09.30 | ardian_irccloud | daemonkeeper: hmm it didn't work I only see Debian and Debian recovery |
| 00:09.51 | daemonkeeper | You have os-prober installed? |
| 00:10.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | daemonkeeper: probably not |
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| 00:10.32 | chenthu | Hey all its time i gt ot go to bed....bye good night.... Thank you all that helped KaffeeJunky123 th0r babilen wechat LtL Krakerjak wols TCW bullgard4 |
| 00:10.43 | chenthu | bye |
| 00:10.50 | KaffeeJunky123 | chenthu: gn8 |
| 00:10.56 | ardian_irccloud | daemonkeeper: Yes it was pre-installed |
| 00:11.12 | ardian_irccloud | sudo os-prober |
| 00:11.12 | ardian_irccloud | /dev/sda1:Microsoft Windows XP Professional:Windows:chain |
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| 00:11.26 | ardian_irccloud | but it doesn't add it to the grub menu list |
| 00:11.41 | daemonkeeper | You want to run update-grub then (and why do you have a menu.lst?) |
| 00:12.50 | ardian_irccloud | daemonkeeper: okay I think that worked thanks a lot |
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| 00:17.08 | wechat | chenthu: have a nice day ^ |
| 00:17.39 | wechat | ardian_irccloud: add them manually |
| 00:17.48 | bemasc | Is there a debian equivalent to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml, i.e. a guide to setting up a simple NAT gateway? |
| 00:18.37 | daemonkeeper | bemasc: Its vastly the same, except that you don't need all the boring stuff which copes half of that manual dealing with kernel configuration. |
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| 00:19.26 | bemasc | daemonkeeper: sure. I've seen a lot of variants of the iptables rules in particular, and wonder if there's a "debianish" way to set up a NAT. |
| 00:19.36 | daemonkeeper | No |
| 00:19.45 | jetscreamer | !nat |
| 00:19.45 | dpkg | i guess nat is Network Address Translation. Use the iptables package, and see <http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/> for details. |
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| 00:21.31 | jhutchins_lt | daemonkeeper: I remember when the majority of the documents at tldp.org began with five pages about how to patch and recompile the kernel. |
| 00:21.57 | jhutchins_lt | (To be fair, most actually gave the topic three or less.) |
| 00:22.18 | daemonkeeper | Fortunately the kernel deals pretty good - feature-wise these days. |
| 00:22.26 | wechat | bemasc: ask on #gentoo |
| 00:22.41 | bemasc | wechat: I'm configuring a debian box! |
| 00:23.05 | kdog | Anyone have a repository for arduino that will work with testing? |
| 00:23.36 | wechat | bemasc: linux is always linux |
| 00:23.38 | kdog | The Software Center asks to add a repo but doesn't :-/ |
| 00:24.20 | bemasc | jetscreamer: thanks. Following links from debian.org/doc/#howtos, I wound up at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.14, which says things like "Newer Linux 2.2.x kernels also include some NAT functionality". I would be nice if your link was there instead! |
| 00:24.45 | bemasc | s/I would/It would/ |
| 00:26.09 | daemonkeeper | You will hardly find anything network related the kernel does not support today. Notice "newer 2.2 kernels" implies a document being written more than 10 years ago |
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| 00:27.11 | bemasc | daemonkeeper: That's my point; I just thought it was funny (and slightly irritating) that debian.org was directing me to such woefully out of date documentation. |
| 00:28.08 | daemonkeeper | Feel free to file a bug against www.debian.org |
| 00:28.16 | bemasc | Hmm. The new IP masquerading HOWTO wants me to dump a script into /etc/rc.d/ |
| 00:28.18 | rajkosto | i'd like a newer gcc :( |
| 00:28.32 | daemonkeeper | rajkosto: Newer than 4.6? |
| 00:28.53 | daemonkeeper | BernardV: This is /etc/init.d/ for Debian. |
| 00:30.08 | rajkosto | 4.6 would be ok i guess |
| 00:30.10 | rajkosto | 4.7 is ideal |
| 00:31.05 | daemonkeeper | There is no 4.7 |
| 00:31.22 | daemonkeeper | The latest release is a 4.6.x which is in Debian |
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| 00:33.21 | flaccid | hmmm i recall there was a page on the debian wiki or something like that on available ec2 debian images? i'm trying to find it so i can add to it |
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| 00:35.13 | jhutchins_lt | bemasc: You can put it in rc.local |
| 00:35.33 | jhutchins_lt | bemasc: It's not out of date, it hasn't changed at all. |
| 00:35.48 | bemasc | jhutchins_lt: cool, thanks. |
| 00:36.26 | rajkosto | daemonkeeper, how do i get it |
| 00:36.28 | jhutchins_lt | bemasc: There are minor changes from the 2.2 to the 2.4 kernel, and a few new features like throttling in later versions, but the basics are still the same. |
| 00:36.35 | daemonkeeper | judd: versions gcc-4.6 |
| 00:36.35 | judd | Package gcc-4.6 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.6.1-4; sid: 4.6.1-5 |
| 00:36.44 | rajkosto | wheezy and sid |
| 00:36.46 | rajkosto | im on squeeze |
| 00:36.51 | bemasc | Nonetheless, dropping huge shell scripts into my filesystem is not my preferred configuration method. It looks like there's a nice guide for shorewall on debian, so I think I'll try that. |
| 00:36.57 | daemonkeeper | Well, this is how stable works, rajkosto |
| 00:37.14 | themill | jhutchins_lt: that document considers ipchains to be the new and promising way to go. I think that probably means it's a little out of date. |
| 00:37.17 | babilen | rajkosto: What do you need it for? |
| 00:37.21 | rajkosto | c++0x |
| 00:38.56 | daemonkeeper | themill: Why? ipchains is a great improvement over ipfwadm! |
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| 00:39.27 | babilen | rajkosto: And you need all the functionality that is not yet in 4.5? http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html |
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| 00:39.46 | rajkosto | squeeze still has 4.4 |
| 00:39.48 | babilen | yes |
| 00:39.50 | babilen | sorry |
| 00:39.57 | rajkosto | of course |
| 00:41.26 | rajkosto | lambdas dont work in 4.4 |
| 00:41.37 | babilen | Well, I guess you can run a development version of Debian with all the problems that are associated with that or use a different distribution. Compiling in a chroot or locally installing your toolchain is probably also an option. |
| 00:42.08 | rajkosto | can i just upgrade to wheezy ? |
| 00:43.06 | NiLoni | so I'm moving *everything* to new hard disk, would it be enough if I plug new drive in, dd everything to new drive and unplug old drive? |
| 00:43.25 | daemonkeeper | rajkosto: You can, if you are aware of consequences. |
| 00:43.26 | babilen | rajkosto: You should be aware of what you are getting into, please read at least http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable -- Please note that you *will* (sooner or later) run into problems. |
| 00:43.42 | daemonkeeper | (unstable is not exactly testing) |
| 00:43.49 | rajkosto | testing |
| 00:43.50 | rajkosto | not unstable |
| 00:43.51 | babilen | rajkosto: It certainly is an option though. |
| 00:44.00 | bemasc | rajkosto: You can install gcc from wheezy without upgrading |
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| 00:44.09 | rajkosto | bemasc, how do this |
| 00:44.12 | jhutchins_lt | themill: It does discuss iptables and I think it even has how to convert. I started with it and ipchains though, so I may misremember. |
| 00:44.39 | babilen | rajkosto: The FAQ in that article covers unstable, but a lot of the good practices apply to testing as well. Even some of the breakage might make it to wheezy ;) |
| 00:44.47 | daemonkeeper | I'm not so sure you really want to backport gcc. gcc is a beast to be built. |
| 00:45.04 | bemasc | rajkosto: I followed this post: http://forums.spry.com/debian/620-how-install-testing-packages-debian-stable-apt-get.html |
| 00:45.11 | jhutchins_lt | I'd help with a rewrite, but these days I use dd-wrt and don't have to mess with it. |
| 00:45.31 | babilen | I would probably work in a chroot or vm if wheezy/sid wouldn't be an options. |
| 00:45.47 | jhutchins_lt | bemasc: Ah, yes, "How to turn your stable system into a brick in a few easy steps". |
| 00:45.57 | babilen | bemasc: That is, quite often, the route into a broken system. |
| 00:46.24 | rajkosto | bemasc, my sources.list file looks like http://codepad.org/WWZIvQnk |
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| 00:46.58 | daemonkeeper | sees evil dotdeb packages |
| 00:47.21 | rajkosto | i needed dat nginx |
| 00:47.30 | daemonkeeper | nginx is in Debian too |
| 00:47.33 | rajkosto | but old |
| 00:47.45 | daemonkeeper | judd: versions nginx |
| 00:47.45 | judd | Package nginx on i386 -- lenny: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-backports: 0.7.67-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.7.67-3; squeeze-backports: 1.0.4-1~bpo60+1; sid: 1.0.5-1; wheezy: 1.0.5-1 |
| 00:47.46 | babilen | 1.0.4 is too old? |
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| 00:47.53 | daemonkeeper | How old can it be? |
| 00:49.27 | rajkosto | it was old enough at the time that i needed to put dotdeb in there |
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| 00:56.29 | flaccid | ah finally, http://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image |
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| 01:27.57 | dyingprism | hey i can't seem to find a way to restart X.. /etc/init.d/gdm restart doesn't work |
| 01:28.17 | dyingprism | no such file or directory |
| 01:28.30 | KaffeeJunky123 | dyingprism: how about gdm3 |
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| 01:30.33 | dyingprism | KaffeeJunky123: lemme try |
| 01:31.24 | wechat | dyingprism: xinit -- :0 |
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| 01:32.02 | dyingprism | ok yeah that worked gdm3 exists i guess |
| 01:32.22 | dyingprism | uhm. but yeah i'm still having issues with compiz and i can't determine if it was me not installing the nvidia proprietary drivers or not |
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| 01:32.34 | dyingprism | it works really well but i can't move or resize windows |
| 01:33.25 | TCW | dyingprism, the window move plugin enabled? |
| 01:33.33 | dyingprism | is that in ccsm? |
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| 01:34.09 | TCW | dunno the exact name and I don't use compiz right now so I can't look... but see through ccsm |
| 01:34.20 | TCW | dyingprism, yes |
| 01:34.52 | dyingprism | wow i feel stupid. yeah that's it. |
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| 01:36.13 | dyingprism | i came from ubuntu and most things were simpler there, but i can already see a huge difference in performance |
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| 01:53.21 | flaccid | for anyone interested, I have updated http://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image with 20 images across all 5 regions. |
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| 01:55.05 | jimcooncat | flaccid, workspace for devs? |
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| 01:56.50 | flaccid | jimcooncat: huh? |
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| 01:59.39 | jimcooncat | nm |
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| 02:20.47 | nsadmin | I want to tell grub I have a new debian I just installed without its own grub, how to go about that? |
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| 02:21.36 | zykotick9 | nsadmin, if you are using grub2, have you tried letting grub2 auto find it? update-grub2 |
| 02:22.07 | nsadmin | zykotick9, the partitions aren't mounted for it, that ok? |
| 02:22.21 | zykotick9 | nsadmin, mounting NOT required |
| 02:22.42 | nsadmin | but the drive, a sata in an esata enclosure, is attached |
| 02:23.05 | nsadmin | ok, I'll give it a shot |
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| 02:23.58 | nsadmin | excellent, that worked great |
| 02:24.11 | nsadmin | now to see if it boots... |
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| 02:32.19 | cesurasean | Someone mind helping me with this? - http://pastebin.com/0hAsNsm1 |
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| 02:34.08 | cesurasean | getting this; server:~/clockingit/cit-0.99.3# gem install rmagick -v 1.5.14 -r |
| 02:34.08 | cesurasean | ERROR: Could not find a valid gem 'rmagick' (= 1.5.14) in any repository |
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| 02:37.45 | cesurasean | Can't install RMagick 2.13.1. Can't find Magick-config in /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
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| 02:38.05 | cesurasean | when i do whereis imagemagick, it doesn't show a location, yet apt-get install imagemagick has been done |
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| 02:38.47 | cesurasean | any help? |
| 02:38.56 | th0r | cesurasean: I believe imagemagick is a collection of programs. Among them is convert and resize if I recall correctly |
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| 02:40.02 | cesurasean | so, what else do i need installed? |
| 02:40.11 | th0r | cesurasean: what do you want to do? |
| 02:40.16 | zykotick9 | cesurasean, just to clarify what th0r mentioned above, I don't think there is an "imagemagick" binary |
| 02:40.26 | webad_13 | I'd like to pipe a photo throught ssh and open it on the server... something like cat photo| ssh user@host 'DISPLAY=:0 open photo' |
| 02:40.41 | th0r | zykotick9: yeah...I did manage to not say that, didn't I <smile> |
| 02:40.50 | webad_13 | is it possible? |
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| 02:41.01 | zykotick9 | webad_13, not with cat no. |
| 02:41.11 | cesurasean | rmagick requires ImageMagick. If you're unable to install ImageMagick 6.3.0+, which the latest |
| 02:41.11 | cesurasean | version of rmagick requires, please install version 1.5.14 instead: |
| 02:41.11 | cesurasean | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.12 | webad_13 | zykotick9: cat was just as an example |
| 02:41.18 | webad_13 | zykotick9: maybe tar? |
| 02:41.34 | cesurasean | i tried that command they suggest, and get this; |
| 02:41.34 | cesurasean | server:~/clockingit/cit-0.99.3# gem install rmagick --ruby=/usr/bin/ruby1.8 |
| 02:41.34 | cesurasean | ERROR: While executing gem ... (OptionParser::InvalidOption) |
| 02:41.34 | cesurasean | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:42.02 | cesurasean | whoops |
| 02:42.02 | th0r | cesurasean: gem must be some ruby thing...can't help with that |
| 02:42.13 | zykotick9 | webad_13, cat or tar can't "display" an image, at least not in a meaningful way. You could try with some image viewer however |
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| 02:42.45 | th0r | cesurasean: there is an rmagic in the repos for generating website stats...is that what you want? |
| 02:42.58 | cesurasean | i dont know |
| 02:43.04 | cesurasean | its part of a program |
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| 02:43.10 | cesurasean | rmagick is a gem |
| 02:43.22 | webad_13 | zykotick9: I was thinking tar it first to transfer it, then untar and view at once on the server - but somehow without saving this.... I don't know, this is why I'm asking :):):) |
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| 02:44.45 | zykotick9 | webad_13, sorry I really don't have any suggestions. I don't however think using tar will help the transferring of the file in any way. |
| 02:45.33 | webad_13 | zykotick9: ok, nprobs - I'll try to look into it more |
| 02:45.36 | cesurasean | ok found i needed this; apt-get install libmagick9-dev |
| 02:45.39 | wechat | cesurasean: http://rmagick.rubyforge.org/install-faq.html |
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| 02:54.39 | jason404 | how do I do this is debian? |
| 02:54.43 | jason404 | httpd -S |
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| 02:55.35 | Alam_Squeeze | jason404: for apache 2? |
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| 02:55.47 | jason404 | Alam_Squeeze_ yes |
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| 02:55.55 | Alam_Squeeze | /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
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| 02:56.42 | jason404 | Alam_Squeeze: thanks. so apache2 start is the same as httpd -S ? |
| 02:58.32 | Alam_Squeeze | oh, you want the settings of apache2? |
| 02:58.44 | jason404 | yeah |
| 02:58.45 | Alam_Squeeze | "-S Show the settings as parsed from the config file (currently only shows the virtualhost settings)." |
| 02:59.17 | jason404 | yes, I am trying to get help on why my vhosts are not working |
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| 03:00.12 | jason404 | I was asked for this output of httpd -S, but I do not know how to get it on debian |
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| 03:02.05 | jason404 | Alam_Squeeze: any idea? |
| 03:02.38 | Alam_Squeeze | try to look how apache2ctl start up apache2 so I can pass -S myself |
| 03:02.57 | wechat | `/etc/init.d/apache2 start` apache2ctl start |
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| 03:05.26 | jason404 | Alam_Squeeze, wechat: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/where-is-the-httpd-s-command-762549/ |
| 03:05.27 | crunge | Would I be rolling the dice running btrfs on a box I care about? |
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| 03:05.52 | jmarsden | jason404: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl -S |
| 03:06.07 | Alam_Squeeze | heh |
| 03:06.16 | jmarsden | No different than on any other platform, as far as I know... |
| 03:06.24 | jason404 | jmarsden: thanks, that worked |
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| 03:06.28 | wechat | jmarsden: apache-top |
| 03:06.34 | jmarsden | You're welcome |
| 03:06.52 | Alam_Squeeze | wait, so apache2ctl on debian is the same as "httpd" on CentOS? |
| 03:07.05 | wechat | httpd??? |
| 03:07.18 | wechat | apache2ctl is default in debian |
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| 03:07.58 | jason404 | I did try earlier, but from the wrong dir, as it is not in the path |
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| 03:08.42 | wechat | jason404: sudo !! |
| 03:08.43 | Alam_Squeeze | ahh, I mean apachectl = apache2ctl and apache2 = httpd |
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| 03:09.41 | jason404 | ah of course |
| 03:11.09 | wechat | jason404: a2enmod is for modules. `sudo aptitude install apachetop` `dpkg -L apache2 | grep bin` |
| 03:11.49 | jason404 | wechat: I'm not sure what you mean |
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| 03:12.00 | jason404 | a2enmod ? |
| 03:12.09 | wechat | to load modules |
| 03:12.18 | wechat | apachetop to view processes |
| 03:12.36 | wechat | dpkg -L apache2 to view installed files |
| 03:12.36 | dpkg | No packages found matching apache2 to view installed files |
| 03:12.45 | jason404 | ok thanks. I'll make a not of that and maybe I'll know what you are talking about soon |
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| 03:21.12 | jason404 | does anybody know what could be wrong with my vhosts setup? http://pastebin.com/CkD6D2JG |
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| 03:26.02 | KnightsWhoSayNi | setup for static in /etc/network/interfaces on 192.168.1.15, but when i check it with etherape, it looks like i am setup on dhcp with 192.168.1.101. also it says i am at eth1 when it should be eth0 :P |
| 03:26.32 | KnightsWhoSayNi | should i turn off, uninstall network manager? |
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| 03:30.58 | zykotick9 | KnightsWhoSayNi, uninstalling N-M not required, if you setup static using interfaces file. Switching from eth0 to eth1 typically because udev detects a change in MAC address, have you been changing it? use "/sbin/ifconfig" to establish what network you are using (vs etherape?) |
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| 03:36.48 | KnightsWhoSayNi | have i been changing my mac address? i dont think so, i thought the mac was hardware dependent. i do have 2 network cards, 1 is not in use. i know debian does things like flip them around. yes that is what ifconfig is saying, that i am using eth1 dhcp at 192.168.1.101 |
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| 03:38.52 | KnightsWhoSayNi | no wait, i only have 1 network card - thinking of my old machine - dont see why it uses eth1 at all. |
| 03:39.27 | centHOGG | did you ever have another card with it |
| 03:39.41 | KnightsWhoSayNi | not in this machine, no |
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| 03:40.26 | centHOGG | sometimes if you swap out some nics the card will sit on eth1 instead of eth0 |
| 03:40.36 | KnightsWhoSayNi | ifconfig says inet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 03:40.55 | centHOGG | looks fine |
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| 03:41.30 | KnightsWhoSayNi | centHOGG: should be at 192.168.1.15 though on eth0 :P |
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| 03:42.54 | KnightsWhoSayNi | i have allow-hotplug eth0 in my interfaces file - maybe i should have auto |
| 03:43.08 | centHOGG | try it |
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| 03:48.59 | flamingspinach | why does qtconfig not list "oxygen" as GUI style, even though I've installed oxygen-icon-theme and oxygencursors? Is there a separate package for the oxygen Qt style? If so I can't see it... |
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| 03:52.51 | Rusty1 | flamingspinach: there is a #qt channel where you might ask whilst waiting for someone here to respond |
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| 03:53.30 | flamingspinach | well, I found this debian bug which might explain it, I guess: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=630012 |
| 03:54.01 | flamingspinach | I don't have kdebase-runtime installed either (let alone kdebase-workspace), but it would be nice if oxygen could get its own little package so I don't need to install KDE :) |
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| 03:56.29 | boudiccas | flamingspinach; but KDE may well be pulled in as a dependency |
| 03:56.58 | centHOGG | kde = qt |
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| 03:57.49 | flamingspinach | boudiccas: yes, but it shouldn't be |
| 03:58.10 | flamingspinach | centHOGG: huh? KDE just uses Qt as its graphical toolkit |
| 03:58.19 | flamingspinach | well, and general purpose toolkit |
| 03:58.34 | flamingspinach | I don't have to like KDE to like Qt :) |
| 03:58.46 | centHOGG | heh |
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| 04:01.35 | jason404 | does anybody know what could be wrong with my vhosts setup? http://pastebin.com/CkD6D2JG |
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| 04:05.17 | jmarsden | jason404: Assuming you really do own the domains foo.co.uk and bar.co.uk and that you have DNS for them pointing to your server, your virtual host setup looks OK. What is the actual problem you are experiencing? |
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| 04:06.54 | jason404 | jmarsden: I am still getting the default webpage in /www/, rather than /www/foo.co.uk/ |
| 04:08.07 | jmarsden | jason404: You are browsing to http://www.foo.co.uk to do this? If I browse to that URL as a test, I will reach your web server? |
| 04:08.34 | jason404 | jmarsden: try www.jinkosyste,s.co.uk |
| 04:08.36 | jason404 | oops |
| 04:08.42 | krakrjak | jason404: not having an entry for the fqdn in /etc/hosts for that ip will give that warning. |
| 04:08.43 | jason404 | jinkosystems.co.uk |
| 04:08.51 | centHOGG | lol |
| 04:09.21 | jason404 | krakrjak: thanks. I'll take a look at that |
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| 04:09.36 | jason404 | centHOGG: why are you loling? |
| 04:09.46 | centHOGG | jinko |
| 04:09.56 | jmarsden | jason404: I just see an Apache index of a directory with no files in it. |
| 04:10.26 | jason404 | jmarsden: ah okay, it does work then. wonder why not for me |
| 04:10.35 | jason404 | centHOGG: what's wrong with jinko? |
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| 04:11.05 | centHOGG | idk |
| 04:12.11 | lduros | hello i'm having an odd problem with debian and my laptop. everytime it seems the capture device get muted (x) in my |
| 04:12.14 | krakrjak | jason404: I get the default page on the ip address too. What about the dns you set up for ServerName. |
| 04:12.16 | lduros | sound preferences |
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| 04:12.24 | lduros | literally everytime i close it. |
| 04:12.34 | lduros | everytime i close the sound preferences window, i mean |
| 04:12.38 | jason404 | centHOGG: okay, you just laugh at the moon I suppose. I thought that maybe it may mean something in a foreign language, I already checked japanese |
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| 04:14.11 | jeremym | i have two directories for dhcp.../etc/dhcp and /etc/dhcp3 |
| 04:14.13 | jason404 | jmarsden: it must be my local browser cache |
| 04:14.22 | jeremym | whats the difference and how can i tell what one im using |
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| 04:15.35 | xreal | Anyone with a nice color scheme for bash? |
| 04:15.48 | jmarsden | jason404: If you are unsure, read your apache log files to see what your server machine did when I browsed to it, and what it does when you browse to it. |
| 04:15.59 | jeremym | its using /etc/dhcp.../var/lib/dhcp3 hasnt had a timestamp change since feb 5 |
| 04:16.14 | jason404 | jmarsden: I tried another browser, and it was fine |
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| 04:18.29 | jeremym | did one of the debian updates go from dhcp3-server to isc-dhcp-server? |
| 04:18.50 | jason404 | krakrjak: what shall I add as the FQDN in hosts when I have multiple vhosts? |
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| 04:20.28 | flamingspinach | jason404: 人工 (zinkou) means man-made in Japanese, fwiw |
| 04:21.00 | jason404 | flamingspinach: that's pretty cool then. do you speak japanesE? |
| 04:22.21 | jmarsden | jason404: Use the FQDN of the server itself in /etc/hosts, not of any of the web sites it happens to host. So jasonsbigserver.jason.org.uk or whatever... |
| 04:23.36 | jason404 | jmarsden: so I should choose one of my domains to use as the main one for the FQDN? |
| 04:23.53 | flamingspinach | jason404: some |
| 04:23.56 | jmarsden | jason404: Hmmm, its reverse DNS entry is apparently 46-38-190-79.static.cloud-ips.co.uk so you could use that?? What is the actual name and domain of the server itself? |
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| 04:24.28 | Mr19 | Does anyone know the package name for Java 7 JRE or JDK? |
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| 04:25.19 | jason404 | jmarsden: I am not sure if it has a domain. this is a rackspace server. the hostname is osiris |
| 04:25.59 | jmarsden | jason404: So maybe add osiris.jinko.co.uk to your DNS and use that as the host FQDN. |
| 04:26.15 | jason404 | jmarsden: ok, I'll try that |
| 04:26.30 | bocaneri | Ubuntu's repos only have references to java 6. |
| 04:26.44 | jmarsden | bocaneri: This is #debian ... |
| 04:26.48 | bocaneri | Debian sid's would be more recent, maybe? |
| 04:27.09 | jmarsden | Mr19: What makes you think there is an official Debian package for Java 7 ? |
| 04:27.16 | kgoetz | correct me if i'm wrong, but are google now denying the ability to install plugins to systems runing chromium from squeeze? |
| 04:27.22 | kgoetz | if thats the case rage will ensue -.- |
| 04:27.23 | Mr19 | I havent played around with debians, but I have a friend that needs it. |
| 04:27.52 | bocaneri | Your friend runs debian? |
| 04:28.04 | Mr19 | Well, he hosts a server that runs debians. |
| 04:28.19 | bocaneri | What does the server itself run? |
| 04:28.21 | centHOGG | good for him |
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| 04:28.56 | Mr19 | irc servers, bots and other stuff that I am not aware of. |
| 04:29.14 | flamingspinach | it's not in sid, nor experimental - openjdk-7-jdk is in experimental, but sun-java7-jdk doesn't even exist yet |
| 04:29.48 | Mr19 | Ah, I practically dont like the use of OpenJDK, I guess he will have to wait |
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| 04:31.09 | jmarsden | Mr19: But you just said he "needs it"! He is in deep trouble if he needs something that doesn't exist... what application is he running that "needs" Sun (or Oracle) Java 7 ? |
| 04:31.34 | Mr19 | Basically the bots that running on the server. |
| 04:31.56 | Mr19 | They mainly handle web parsing/crawling and stores it into cache. |
| 04:31.59 | jmarsden | If they are already running, he already has the Java version he needs to run them. |
| 04:32.06 | kgoetz | how can people need java 7 already? |
| 04:32.11 | bocaneri | You don't need bleeding edge languages or vm environments for bots. |
| 04:32.11 | kgoetz | esp with its loop handling issues *g* |
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| 04:34.20 | jason404 | jmarsden: when I changed the line in hosts from 46.38.190.79 osiris to 46.38.190.79 osiris.jinkosystems.co.uk, I get more erroirs when restarting apache |
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| 04:35.12 | jmarsden | jason404: Sounds like you did not actually add osiris.jinkosystems.co.uk to your DNS first? |
| 04:35.34 | jmarsden | jason404: dig osiris.kinkosystems.co.uk fails for me... |
| 04:35.48 | jason404 | ah. I see. |
| 04:36.15 | jmarsden | Earlier, I said: <jmarsden> jason404: So maybe add osiris.jinko.co.uk to your DNS and use that as the host FQDN. |
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| 04:36.31 | jason404 | ic |
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| 04:41.18 | jason404 | jmarsden: I added the A record for the host for the domain |
| 04:41.35 | jason404 | I tried restarting apache, and got this: |
| 04:41.37 | jason404 | jason@osiris:/etc$ sudo apachectl -k restart |
| 04:41.37 | jason404 | apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 46.38.190.79 for ServerName |
| 04:41.37 | jason404 | [Sun Jul 31 04:41:17 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
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| 04:42.36 | jason404 | not sure what the second error is about either, as I thought setting up vhosts is what i have been trying to do for the last couple of hours |
| 04:42.46 | kgoetz | asarch: please pstebin the contents of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname |
| 04:42.50 | kgoetz | its a warning, not an error |
| 04:43.12 | asarch | ? |
| 04:43.17 | asarch | What do you mean? |
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| 04:43.29 | jason404 | kgoetz: are you talking to me? |
| 04:43.35 | kgoetz | jason404: yes |
| 04:43.44 | kgoetz | asarch: sorry about the ping |
| 04:43.45 | jason404 | ok |
| 04:43.54 | asarch | NP :-) |
| 04:43.58 | kgoetz | :) |
| 04:44.37 | jmarsden | jason404: Can you successfully dig osiris.jinkosystems.co.uk and get the 46.38.190.79 IP address back? And yes, do what kgoetz asked :) |
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| 04:47.03 | jason404 | kgoetz: http://pastebin.com/CkD6D2JG |
| 04:47.23 | jason404 | jmarsden: yes, I think so. I added the output to the above pastebin |
| 04:49.11 | jmarsden | jason404: I'd combine lines 3 and 4 into one line in /etc/hosts: 46.38.190.79 osiris.jinkosystems.co.uk osiris |
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| 04:49.23 | kgoetz | ++ |
| 04:49.59 | jason404 | oh yeah. I thought I had done that after I experimented with doing it that way |
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| 04:52.11 | jason404 | jmarsden. kgoetz: I get even more errors now :/ |
| 04:52.14 | jason404 | jason@osiris:/etc$ sudo apachectl -k restart |
| 04:52.14 | jason404 | sudo: unable to resolve host osiris |
| 04:52.14 | jason404 | apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for osiris |
| 04:52.14 | jason404 | apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName |
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| 04:52.31 | dyingprism | so i installed my nvidia graphics drivers, and glxinfo |grep rendering returns yes.. uhm what would be a way to check to see the current driver being used, or some other way to verify i did this properly |
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| 04:52.42 | jason404 | oops |
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| 04:53.36 | kgoetz | jason404: what do hostname; hostname -d; hostname -f return? |
| 04:53.40 | dyingprism | cuz in wine i'm getting something along the lines of failed to get gl context for default adapter, problems with direct 3d9 and opengl |
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| 04:55.03 | jason404 | kgoetz: hostname returns osiris, and the other two return hostname: Name or service not known |
| 04:55.49 | kgoetz | thats not healthy. o.o |
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| 04:57.00 | jokar1 | hello all |
| 04:57.03 | jokar1 | o/ all |
| 04:57.23 | jokar1 | i install a software in my debian but i can't uninstall it |
| 04:57.26 | jason404 | kgoetz: do you think I may need to restart something or reboot the server? |
| 04:57.35 | jokar1 | i can't see it in my package manager |
| 04:57.44 | kgoetz | jokar1: how did you install it? |
| 04:57.50 | jokar1 | yeah |
| 04:58.01 | kgoetz | jason404: if you can that would be handy (: |
| 04:58.03 | jokar1 | from source |
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| 04:58.15 | kgoetz | then it won't appear in the package manager ... |
| 04:58.24 | jokar1 | yeah |
| 04:58.37 | jason404 | my IRC bouncer is on the same server :/ |
| 04:58.50 | kgoetz | jason404: ah, ok. |
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| 04:59.20 | jokar1 | i install vmware but i can't remove it |
| 04:59.30 | jokar1 | vmware has a unistaller but not work |
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| 04:59.39 | kgoetz | jason404: could you try 'hostname osiris.jinkosystems.co.uk' |
| 05:00.17 | kgoetz | jokar1: then you're screwed |
| 05:00.34 | jokar1 | yes |
| 05:00.44 | jason404 | kgoetz |
| 05:00.46 | jason404 | jason@osiris:/etc$ sudo hostname osiris.jinkosystems.co.uk |
| 05:00.46 | jason404 | sudo: unable to resolve host osiris |
| 05:01.01 | kgoetz | oh, you're running with sudo. |
| 05:01.02 | kgoetz | hm |
| 05:01.25 | jason404 | shall I log in as root? |
| 05:01.39 | kgoetz | jason404: could you try HOSTNAME='osiris' in front of that |
| 05:01.43 | kgoetz | yeah, if you can |
| 05:01.58 | jason404 | and ignore what you just said? |
| 05:02.21 | kgoetz | yes |
| 05:02.25 | kgoetz | ignore me ;) |
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| 05:04.52 | jason404 | kgoetz: thanks. everything seems to be working fine now |
| 05:05.08 | kgoetz | jason404: \o/ |
| 05:05.13 | kgoetz | jason404: what did you do, ignore me? ;) |
| 05:05.18 | jason404 | heh |
| 05:05.29 | jason404 | logged in as root and did hostname osiris.jinkosystems.co.uk |
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| 05:07.47 | jmarsden | jason404: hostname is not a command that should need you to be root or to use sudo. |
| 05:08.13 | kgoetz | jmarsden: you do to set hostname |
| 05:08.36 | jmarsden | True, but... ah, OK... |
| 05:08.38 | jason404 | jmarsden: it would seem strange for any user to change the same of the host, wouldn't it? |
| 05:08.57 | jmarsden | hostname prints the name of the host for any user. |
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| 05:10.03 | jmarsden | Anyway, now hostname works, does apache restart cleanly? |
| 05:10.04 | jason404 | will the bash promot include the whole fqdn when I log back from now? |
| 05:10.09 | jason404 | prompt? |
| 05:10.28 | kgoetz | no, it should include the short version |
| 05:10.40 | jason404 | jmarsden> yes it does. the errors have gone, but there is a warning |
| 05:11.03 | jason404 | jason@osiris:/etc$ sudo apachectl -k restart |
| 05:11.03 | jason404 | [Sun Jul 31 05:05:33 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 05:11.50 | kgoetz | have you set up your virtualhosts? |
| 05:12.12 | jason404 | all this effort has precisely with the aim of doing that |
| 05:12.18 | jason404 | been ^ |
| 05:12.32 | jason404 | and yes, I think |
| 05:12.34 | kgoetz | i see |
| 05:12.39 | kgoetz | sorry, i cam ein half way through |
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| 05:12.51 | jason404 | oh yeah |
| 05:14.01 | kgoetz | please pastebin your site config |
| 05:14.11 | kgoetz | (i assume you've set up a file in sites-enabled) |
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| 05:15.38 | jason404 | once sec |
| 05:16.57 | KnightsWhoSayNi | i just had to remove portmap, because it was keeping other services from running for some reason. |
| 05:17.09 | KnightsWhoSayNi | very strange |
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| 05:22.01 | jason404 | kgoetz: what is sites-enabled? I can see it in the output for apachectl -S |
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| 05:26.21 | kgoetz | jason404: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 05:26.32 | kgoetz | jason404: where debian puts sites to be read by apache |
| 05:27.14 | jason404 | kgoetz: I just have 000-default in there, and it seems to be a symlink |
| 05:27.57 | jason404 | pointing to ../sites-available/default |
| 05:28.01 | kgoetz | yep |
| 05:28.11 | kgoetz | so you haven'[t configured apache yourself? |
| 05:28.42 | jason404 | no. I just installed it |
| 05:29.10 | jason404 | I am new to apache |
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| 05:29.45 | voltagex | hi, I need some help with a bug-report - difference between the built in r8169.ko and Realtek's GPL r8168.ko. Where would I log it and how much information do I need to provide? |
| 05:29.50 | kgoetz | ok. your warning is because there is no NameVirtualHost or VirtualHosts entries in there. its not something you need to worry about |
| 05:30.30 | kgoetz | voltagex: built in? |
| 05:30.46 | jason404 | kgoetz: ok, that's good to know. at least I don't have to be concerned about it. I'll read more about configuring apache and sort itout |
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| 05:31.12 | voltagex | kgoetz: sorry, the one that comes with the debian 2.6.39-2-amd64 kernel |
| 05:31.30 | kgoetz | jason404: if you want to create your own virtual hosts, stick them in their own files. by and large you want to leave 000-defualt alone (unless you're just doing a quick hack to test something) |
| 05:31.54 | kgoetz | voltagex: you can get the source for both of them and compare |
| 05:31.59 | jason404 | ok, thanks. I'll make a note of that |
| 05:32.51 | voltagex | kgoetz: I'm not too worried about the source, but basically r8169 does not work, while r8168 does - so anyone with the same NIC is going to have a lot of trouble |
| 05:34.03 | kgoetz | my guest has arrived, so i'll bbl |
| 05:34.07 | kgoetz | good luck all :) |
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| 05:34.19 | jason404 | kgoetz: thanks |
| 05:36.09 | voltagex | anyone here using a Z68 based motherboard? What NIC do you have? |
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| 05:37.17 | jason404 | is Z68 an Intel chipset? |
| 05:37.57 | Andorin | I'm following some instructions to build a new libcairo2 for better font rendering on Squeeze. They seem to require the libpixman-1-deb package, but I get a dependency error when I try to install it: "libpixman-1-dev: Depends: libpixman-1-0 (=0.16.4-1) but 0.21.4-2~bpo60+1 is to be installed" How do I fix this? |
| 05:38.10 | voltagex | jason404: I guess, new i7 here. |
| 05:38.23 | jason404 | nice |
| 05:38.39 | voltagex | Andorin: where did you get the new libcairo2? also can I see the instructions you're using? |
| 05:38.54 | Andorin | voltagex: http://lovingthepenguin.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-font-rendering-in-debian-squeeze.html |
| 05:39.11 | voltagex | jason404: not so nice, had all sorts of issues with the video card and the NIC |
| 05:39.17 | Andorin | It fails at "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc" because of unresolvable dependency issues |
| 05:39.20 | unforgiven512 | Is anyone else having trouble signing onto Google Talk with Pidgin? |
| 05:39.28 | jason404 | voltagex: if it is anything like the old Intel chipsets, you could have any sort of nic on the motherboard, as it is not part of the chipset |
| 05:39.58 | unforgiven512 | It was working fine earlier today for me, and, out of nowhere, I pinged out, went to reconnect, and was faced with this: "Server does not use any supported authentication method" |
| 05:40.28 | jason404 | voltagex: you should look at the specs for the motherboard |
| 05:40.51 | voltagex | jason404: I just thought the Realtek 8111 series were fairly common, so I was hoping to get someone else to help test something |
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| 05:41.12 | voltagex | Andorin: what step are you up to where you get the error? |
| 05:41.15 | jason404 | ic. |
| 05:41.22 | Andorin | voltagex: It fails at "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc" because of unresolvable dependency issues |
| 05:41.54 | voltagex | and are you sure you ran apt-get build-dep cairo? |
| 05:42.09 | voltagex | Andorin: just checking, you're actually running squeeze? |
| 05:42.23 | Andorin | voltagex: Yes, I'm running Squeeze, and no, I'm not sure I did that ^^; |
| 05:42.40 | Andorin | Will running that and then retrying with dpkg fix it? |
| 05:43.05 | voltagex | Andorin: please don't copy and paste those instructions, you need to read all of them. Also, don't include the # at the front |
| 05:43.16 | voltagex | start at the top. |
| 05:43.18 | Andorin | voltagex: I know, I just missed that one by accident |
| 05:43.40 | voltagex | Andorin: yep, then all you're missing are the build-deps |
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| 05:44.04 | Andorin | voltagex: apt-get build-dep cairo gives me the same unmet dependencies error |
| 05:44.12 | voltagex | hm |
| 05:44.32 | voltagex | can you please pastebin/pastie your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 05:44.38 | Andorin | k |
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| 05:45.42 | Andorin | voltagex: http://pastebin.com/ZRDsLn41 |
| 05:46.47 | voltagex | Andorin: looks ok, how long since you've done apt-get update? |
| 05:47.02 | Andorin | voltagex: I ran it just after adding the deb-src repo a little bit ago |
| 05:48.03 | voltagex | Andorin: very strange, I suspect those instructions are out of date - give me about 40 minutes to do other stuff then I'm going to try the same on a Squeeze machine. |
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| 05:48.27 | Andorin | voltagex: Sure, and thanks |
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| 05:49.09 | Andorin | voltagex: Could the dependency error have to do with the fact that I technically ran the commands out of order, since I didn't run apt-get build-dep cairo at the point the instructions specified? |
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| 05:51.51 | voltagex | Andorin: no, apt-get build-dep cairo should have fixed it |
| 05:52.01 | Andorin | mk |
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| 05:55.29 | Aaron_ | hey i have a question, i have a laptop using the ati drivers, i was trying to play flightgear but the videocard is very slow what seems to be the issue? |
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| 05:56.47 | voltagex | Aaron_: do you know which ATI card? |
| 05:56.56 | jason404 | do I have to sing in as root to upload website files? |
| 05:56.57 | Aaron_ | how can i see that? |
| 05:57.07 | voltagex | Aaron_: also, are you comfortable running some console commands for me? |
| 05:57.12 | Aaron_ | sure |
| 05:57.16 | voltagex | jason404: What do you mean? |
| 05:57.29 | Aaron_ | 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200] |
| 05:57.40 | Aaron_ | there we go |
| 05:57.49 | voltagex | Aaron_: that's what I needed :) |
| 05:57.59 | Aaron_ | which driver do i use? |
| 05:58.12 | jason404 | voltagex: well, I cannot seem to write files within /www/ without sudo, but I do not want to be using my root credentials on web authoring software for SFTP |
| 05:58.19 | voltagex | Aaron_: probably radeon, but I'm not 100% sure |
| 05:58.34 | Aaron_ | hmmm |
| 05:58.42 | voltagex | jason404: are you trying to edit files locally or on a remote machine? |
| 05:58.54 | jason404 | remote |
| 05:59.03 | voltagex | Aaron_: lsmod | grep radeon |
| 05:59.17 | Aaron_ | voltagex, join #flood |
| 05:59.18 | voltagex | jason404: who owns the remote machine? |
| 05:59.25 | jason404 | rackspace |
| 05:59.26 | voltagex | Aaron_: use pastebin :P |
| 05:59.30 | Aaron_ | ok |
| 05:59.41 | voltagex | jason404: check with them what credentials and permissions you're supposed to use |
| 05:59.57 | Aaron_ | http://pastebin.com/mXE4v5H0 |
| 05:59.58 | Aaron_ | there we go |
| 06:00.00 | jason404 | voltagex: it's a vps though |
| 06:00.10 | voltagex | jason404: do they provide any support? |
| 06:00.35 | voltagex | jason404: depending on your web server everything should be owned by www-data inside of /var/www |
| 06:00.36 | jason404 | yeah, but I don't see how it has anthing to do with them |
| 06:00.43 | Aaron_ | voltagex, what do i use |
| 06:00.47 | voltagex | jason404: it's their machine |
| 06:00.55 | voltagex | Aaron_: hold up |
| 06:01.04 | Aaron_ | ok |
| 06:01.20 | jason404 | voltagex: but only the physical hardware. the virtual machine is completely under my control. It's a VPS |
| 06:01.29 | voltagex | Aaron_: dmesg | grep radeon |
| 06:01.38 | voltagex | jason404: then which webserver are you using? |
| 06:01.44 | jason404 | apache |
| 06:01.58 | voltagex | jason404: check the permissions on www-data |
| 06:02.08 | jason404 | ah, ok thanks |
| 06:02.08 | voltagex | jason404: sorry, I meant on /var/www |
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| 06:02.58 | jason404 | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jul 31 02:10 www |
| 06:04.15 | voltagex | sigh |
| 06:04.26 | voltagex | too few helpers, many many askers |
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| 06:06.41 | jason404 | so voltagex, how do I change it to allow my user to access www? |
| 06:06.49 | jason404 | currently it is: |
| 06:06.49 | jason404 | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jul 31 02:10 www |
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| 06:07.01 | jason404 | but obviously I still want it secure |
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| 06:07.16 | jason404 | just with this one user have write access |
| 06:08.14 | voltagex | jason404: I recommend you find a tutorial to set up apache, you need to change the owner of /var/www to www-data then add your user to /var/www |
| 06:08.46 | jason404 | ok, thanks |
| 06:10.01 | voltagex | Andorin: I'm getting there |
| 06:11.22 | Bushmills | jason404, your user *has* access to www. just no write permissions |
| 06:11.40 | Bushmills | ah. that's what you need - right |
| 06:12.08 | jason404 | yes. As it is a web directory, ervybody has read access |
| 06:12.11 | voltagex | Bushmills: yeah, do you remember if it's still advised to just add a user account to www-data? |
| 06:12.16 | Bushmills | no |
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| 06:12.29 | Bushmills | you need to change *group* of www, |
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| 06:12.40 | Bushmills | and set group permissions accordingly |
| 06:12.51 | jmarsden | It would be safer for jason404 to grant the user write access to the virtual hosts concerned, and leave permissions of /var/www/ itself alone, as far as I know... |
| 06:13.11 | Bushmills | we don't know why user is claimed to need access |
| 06:13.12 | voltagex | jmarsden: I'd say we're not even up to vhosts yet :) |
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| 06:13.31 | jmarsden | voltagex: Oh yes we are, you were not here earlier I think ... |
| 06:13.33 | jason404 | jmarsden: thanks |
| 06:13.34 | jason404 | voltagex: I have set up vhosts |
| 06:13.47 | voltagex | jmarsden: thanks |
| 06:14.04 | voltagex | Andorin: were you able to run games in any other OS? |
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| 06:14.28 | Andorin | voltagex: Dunno, I only use Linux |
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| 06:15.36 | voltagex | Andorin: I'm just not sure how powerful the 4000 series are |
| 06:15.48 | voltagex | Andorin: but it'd be worth trying fglrx I guess. |
| 06:16.03 | Andorin | voltagex: 4000 series of what? |
| 06:16.16 | voltagex | Andorin: ATI Mobility, isn't that what lspci showed? |
| 06:16.56 | Andorin | voltagex: Are you sure you aren't confusing me with someone else? |
| 06:17.06 | voltagex | Andorin: quite possibly. |
| 06:17.25 | voltagex | yes, sorry Abyssion |
| 06:17.28 | Abyssion | It's k |
| 06:17.39 | voltagex | A[tab] :P |
| 06:20.58 | cesurasean | can anyone tell me why this script; http://forum.clockingit.com/discussion/632/ is giving me this error when starting? Starting ClockingIT Services:no such file to load -- /bin/../config/environment |
| 06:21.29 | cesurasean | they said to only change the path of the clockingit, and so i did, but still won't start for some odd reason! |
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| 06:22.25 | cesurasean | i don't see /bin/../conf/environment anywhere in the script! |
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| 06:32.46 | namoamitafo | Hi guys |
| 06:33.13 | namoamitafo | When I click the "Shutdown" button, it only logs out, not shutdown. How to solve it? |
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| 06:34.19 | KnightsWhoSayNi | what wm are you using anyway |
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| 06:34.32 | namoamitafo | gnome with metacity |
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| 06:36.29 | namoamitafo | I had disabled awesome |
| 06:36.44 | Abyssion | voltagex: I tried the instructions on another computer with Squeeze, and on apt-get build-dep cairo, it simply said that no available version of libpixman-1-dev can satisfy the version requirements |
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| 06:41.28 | voltagex | Abyssion: odd. |
| 06:41.59 | voltagex | oh! you may want to try adding debian-backports |
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| 06:44.42 | rkvirani | Hi All, I recently aquired a PPC G5 dual CPU box, Im thinking abot putting Debian on it and using it for LAMP development... Any gotchas I should know about? Also, does anyone have any recommendations for resizing the HFS+ partition on it? |
| 06:45.07 | voltagex | Abyssion: I meant that the version of the package you're looking for may be in debian-backports |
| 06:45.21 | Abyssion | Mm, it's worth a try |
| 06:45.38 | namoamitafo | The problem is similar: |
| 06:45.40 | namoamitafo | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=45771&start=0 |
| 06:45.41 | wols_ | !ppc |
| 06:45.41 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 06:46.03 | namoamitafo | How to solve it in debian Squeeze && Wheezy |
| 06:46.44 | Abyssion | voltagex: Nope, same error |
| 06:47.04 | voltagex | Abyssion: just checking, you ran apt-get update after adding the repo? |
| 06:47.11 | Abyssion | voltagex: Yep |
| 06:47.14 | voltagex | Abyssion: also, what version specifically is it looking for? |
| 06:47.25 | Abyssion | voltagex: libpixman-1-dev : Depends: libpixman-1-0 (= 0.16.4-1) but 0.21.4-2~bpo60+1 is to be installed |
| 06:47.37 | voltagex | odd |
| 06:48.04 | voltagex | very strange, you haven't installed anything from the ubuntu repositories have you? |
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| 06:48.04 | Abyssion | voltagex: No, of course not |
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| 06:48.24 | voltagex | Abyssion: I'll see what I can find out about those versions |
| 06:48.26 | Abyssion | Does this mean it wants a specific version of libpixman-1-0 that is older than the current version, and for some reason the current version won't work? |
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| 06:49.42 | voltagex | Abyssion: apt-get -t stable install libpixman-1-0 |
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| 06:50.40 | Abyssion | voltagex: Already installed, it appears |
| 06:50.55 | voltagex | Abyssion: what version? |
| 06:51.29 | voltagex | apt-get -t stable install libpixman-1-0=0.16.4-1 may work |
| 06:52.01 | Abyssion | voltagex: Synaptic says that 0.21.4-2~bpo60+1 is the installed version |
| 06:52.04 | Abyssion | I'll try that |
| 06:52.08 | namoamitafo | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=48644 |
| 06:52.13 | namoamitafo | How to solve |
| 06:52.29 | voltagex | Abyssion: looks like backports is too new as well, better off commenting that out for now, sorry! |
| 06:53.07 | Abyssion | voltagex: I probably shouldn't install what you just told me to... it'd remove a mountain of packages |
| 06:53.33 | Abyssion | Okay, backports removed |
| 06:53.35 | voltagex | Abyssion: Thought it might do that, you're in dependancy hell and I hope it's not my fault |
| 06:53.37 | namoamitafo | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=66425 |
| 06:53.59 | voltagex | namoamitafo: posting this again and again isn't going to make us help faster - you were given a workaround in that thread |
| 06:54.18 | voltagex | ok, see if you can remove that version of libpixman |
| 06:54.29 | voltagex | it's newer than the rest of your system, sorry. |
| 06:55.26 | Abyssion | voltagex: Nope, removing libpixman0 would likewise remove a mountain of packages |
| 06:55.38 | Abyssion | libpixman* |
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| 06:56.15 | wols_ | Abyssion: why aren't you installing the -dev package from backports? |
| 06:56.19 | voltagex | Abyssion: oh crap, let me try to replicate this in a VM |
| 06:56.24 | wols_ | ,versions libpixman-1-dev |
| 06:56.25 | judd | Package libpixman-1-dev on i386 -- lenny: 0.10.0-2; lenny-backports: 0.16.4-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.16.4-1; sid: 0.22.2-1; wheezy: 0.22.2-1; experimental: 0.23.2-1 |
| 06:56.28 | voltagex | wols_: I think I've caused a big problem :S |
| 06:56.32 | wols_ | ok, it's not there I gues |
| 06:56.53 | voltagex | wols_: lenny-backports has the correct version for what he's trying to do |
| 06:57.19 | namoamitafo | voltagex: they are different url |
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| 06:57.32 | voltagex | namoamitafo: what is the issue you're having? |
| 06:57.33 | wols_ | backport libpixman itself so you can have both |
| 06:57.40 | wols_ | no, lenny-bpo does not |
| 06:57.46 | wols_ | ,versions libpixman |
| 06:57.46 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libpixman' was found in i386. |
| 06:57.48 | wols_ | ,versions libpixman-1 |
| 06:57.50 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libpixman-1' was found in i386. |
| 06:58.01 | wols_ | ,versions libpixman-1-0 |
| 06:58.03 | judd | Package libpixman-1-0 on i386 -- lenny: 0.10.0-2; lenny-backports: 0.16.4-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.16.4-1; sid: 0.22.2-1; wheezy: 0.22.2-1; experimental: 0.23.2-1 |
| 06:58.08 | namoamitafo | voltagex: the shutdown button only turn the pc back to the login screen |
| 06:58.21 | wols_ | Abyssion: from where did you get your current 0.21 libpixman ? |
| 06:58.55 | wols_ | Abyssion: apt-cache policy <package> should show it |
| 06:59.20 | voltagex | namoamitafo: it's a bug in GDM, can you use something else? |
| 06:59.50 | Abyssion | wols_: Would that be this line? 500 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages |
| 06:59.51 | namoamitafo | voltagex: known bug? |
| 06:59.56 | namoamitafo | voltagex: thanks |
| 07:00.04 | Abyssion | Anyway, as far as I know, it was installed with my system |
| 07:00.24 | namoamitafo | what about lightdm |
| 07:00.27 | wols_ | no. cause .21 is not in squeeze |
| 07:00.58 | wols_ | no, you got it from bpo somewhere |
| 07:01.04 | voltagex | Abyssion: which backports line did you use? stable or testing? |
| 07:01.20 | Abyssion | voltagex: # deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 07:01.45 | wols_ | why is there a # in front? |
| 07:01.54 | Abyssion | Because I commented it out at voltagex's request |
| 07:02.04 | voltagex | wols_: because I wasn't sure if I'd done the right thing on requesting him using backports |
| 07:02.17 | voltagex | wols_: how would you revert to the correct stable version of libpixman? |
| 07:02.19 | wols_ | !tell Abyssion about ssb |
| 07:02.53 | wols_ | Abyssion: backport libpixman yourself so that you have boththe library and the -dev packages, so that you can in turn go on and backport whateevr eles you need (cairo?) |
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| 07:03.38 | Abyssion | wols_: I'm trying to build a new version of libcairo2 to improve font rendering, and "apt-get build-dep cairo" fails with these dependency issues |
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| 07:04.30 | voltagex | I'd *really* like to know what that Ubuntu patch does if this person is recommending you to rebuild libcairo2 |
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| 07:05.11 | systemclient | I just installed apache2 on a empty netinstall stable and my httpd.conf is empty. how can I get a working apache setup? |
| 07:05.23 | Abyssion | Anyway I guess I'll try the instructions that dpkg gave me :S |
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| 07:06.23 | wols_ | Abyssion: apt-get source <libpixman>;apt-get build-dep <libpixman>;dpkg-buildpackage tell us if there are any errors |
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| 07:06.52 | wols_ | Abyssion: you found out why backporting isn't always as easy as dpkg tells you it is: recursive dependency hell :) |
| 07:07.06 | voltagex | Abyssion: don't remove half your system |
| 07:07.06 | wols_ | systemclient: it already is. erad the httpd.conf content |
| 07:07.19 | systemclient | ls |
| 07:07.27 | voltagex | Abyssion: what rendering improvements are you trying to get? |
| 07:07.37 | wols_ | voltagex: yes, before anything is remvoed, show us. the goal is to add stuff, not remove |
| 07:07.41 | Abyssion | voltagex: Ubuntu-like font rendering for Gnome |
| 07:08.23 | wols_ | systemclient: it's all in and under /etc/apache2/ just in different files and a single hugh conf file |
| 07:08.37 | systemclient | wols_: oh, it is the apache2.conf? |
| 07:08.39 | Abyssion | wols_: It's not generating any errors, but apt-get wants me to install autoconf, automake, autotools-dev, libltdl-dev, libtool and quilt |
| 07:08.46 | systemclient | how do I activate PHP then? |
| 07:08.55 | voltagex | Abyssion: oh! that's correct, what is it remocing then? |
| 07:08.59 | voltagex | removing* |
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| 07:09.07 | Abyssion | It doesn't say it's removing anything |
| 07:09.16 | Abyssion | I'd be happy to pastebin the output thus far |
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| 07:09.43 | wols_ | Abyssion: those are all development tools. you need them |
| 07:09.51 | Abyssion | Installing, then |
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| 07:10.25 | Abyssion | tail: cannot open `debian/changelog' for reading: No such file or directory |
| 07:10.25 | Abyssion | dpkg-buildpackage: error: tail of debian/changelog gave error exit status 1 |
| 07:10.30 | Abyssion | That's the only error, I think |
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| 07:11.34 | wols_ | Abyssion: what version of libpixman exactly did you get and how? |
| 07:11.59 | Abyssion | wols_: Do you mean just now, with the commands you just had me run? |
| 07:12.00 | wols_ | and in which directory are you when running dpkg-buildpackage? |
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| 07:13.00 | Abyssion | Er, the wrong one |
| 07:13.17 | Abyssion | switches |
| 07:13.43 | wols_ | you need to enter the directory of the package you want to build. e.g. "cd libpixman-1_0.21" |
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| 07:14.23 | Abyssion | Okay, in the right directory, dpkg-buildpackage gives this error: "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libpixman-1-dev (>= 0.12.0)" |
| 07:14.50 | Abyssion | That's the package that won't install because it apparently depends on a different version of libpixman-1-0 |
| 07:14.51 | systemclient | which package contains mod_rewrite for apache |
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| 07:15.42 | levi501d | is there a way to update kde to kde 4.6 without having to move everything over to testing? |
| 07:15.56 | wols_ | levi501d: no |
| 07:16.14 | wols_ | Abyssion: inside what directory are you? |
| 07:16.19 | wols_ | Abyssion: "pwd" |
| 07:16.25 | Abyssion | wols: /home/andorin/patched-packages/libcairo2/deb-sources/cairo-1.8.10 |
| 07:16.56 | wols_ | I told you to compile your own libpixman-1 |
| 07:16.59 | wols_ | NOT cairo |
| 07:17.41 | Abyssion | That directory is from the instructions I was following to rebuild libcairo2... the directions I was using when this dependency problem hit |
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| 07:18.03 | Abyssion | So I need to compile a new libpixman-1? From the !ssb instructions? |
| 07:18.05 | wols_ | if you know where to get the proper libpixman-1-dev, feel free |
| 07:18.10 | wols_ | yes you do |
| 07:18.17 | Abyssion | Alright |
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| 07:23.57 | Abyssion | It's moving through apt-get -b source libpixman-1-0 |
| 07:25.12 | Abyssion | Ergh, it failed |
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| 07:25.59 | Abyssion | wols_: I think this is where it failed http://pastebin.com/9bhVFzdV |
| 07:27.00 | wols_ | no that's not it |
| 07:27.43 | Abyssion | mk =/ |
| 07:28.18 | wols_ | show us exactly what you did (entered) and what the output was |
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| 07:28.47 | wols_ | and I see "libcairo" still in there. why is there ANY cairo there? I want to see pixman ONLY. why don't I see that? |
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| 07:29.49 | wols_ | I want to see something like "~/pixman-0.22.2" NOT any cairo |
| 07:30.13 | Abyssion | Well, I followed dpkg's instructions... added a deb-src for sid, enabled backports, apt-get update'd... build-essential was already installed... aptitude build-dep libpixman-1-0 had me install one package and upgrade another, but I can't remember what they were... and apt-get -b source libpixman-1-0 is what's just failed, and it generated a ton of output |
| 07:30.24 | Abyssion | Okay, I'll change directories |
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| 07:33.49 | wols_ | Abyssion: apt-get source libpixman-1-0 then go into the newly made directory and run dpkg-build-package |
| 07:34.02 | wols_ | and if that errors, show us the _first_ error |
| 07:34.08 | Abyssion | wols_: From ~/libpixman, right? |
| 07:34.23 | wols_ | yes |
| 07:34.29 | Abyssion | k |
| 07:34.40 | wols_ | from where are you getting your source packages btw? |
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| 07:36.43 | Abyssion | Get:2 http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ sid/main pixman 0.22.2-1 (tar) [616 kB] <-- That was part of the output for apt-get source libpixman-1-0... does that answer your question? |
| 07:36.51 | Abyssion | Because beside that I don't know |
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| 07:39.51 | Abyssion | Okay, it failed again, but I honestly have no idea what constitutes "the first error" beside the error listed at the end of its torrent of output |
| 07:39.55 | Abyssion | This error is different |
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| 07:43.38 | Abyssion | I'd be happy to pastebin the entire output of dpkg-buildpackage, but there is a lot of it >< |
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| 07:45.05 | wols_ | Abyssion: dpkg-buildpackage 2> error.out |
| 07:45.30 | Abyssion | Is that 2 intentional? |
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| 07:45.44 | wols_ | yes |
| 07:45.46 | Abyssion | k |
| 07:45.54 | Abyssion | Now it's running again |
| 07:46.24 | Abyssion | Let me guess, 2> pipes the contents to the file in addition to, rather than instead of, displaying them in the console |
| 07:46.44 | wols_ | no |
| 07:46.59 | wols_ | it redirects ALL error messages to a file and doesn't show it on console |
| 07:47.04 | Abyssion | Aha |
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| 07:47.10 | Abyssion | Useful |
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| 07:50.59 | Abyssion | wols_: Here's the error.out http://pastebin.com/T7pZsgcp |
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| 07:54.21 | wols_ | dh_install: libpixman-1-0 missing files (usr/lib/*/libpixman-1.so.*), aborting is the error, but I dunno why this happens. maybe check for the .so files if they were compiled |
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| 07:57.36 | Abyssion | Where would those be? |
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| 08:08.08 | Abyssion | wols: ? |
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| 08:09.42 | Shirakawasuna | Sorry for the annoying question, but if anyone's around and using KDE, could you verify that the 'window menubar' plasmoid is or isn't functional in debian? I'm not sure if it's even easily available, it's presumably from the ayatana project (ubuntu junk) |
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| 08:17.50 | sickgut | anyone here notice some ram useage problems in the new seamonkey? |
| 08:17.54 | sickgut | i think its based in ff5 |
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| 08:17.58 | sickgut | so maybe more bloat |
| 08:18.06 | sickgut | all of a sudden 512mb ram isnt enough |
| 08:18.15 | sickgut | im always in 100mb swap or so |
| 08:18.26 | sickgut | used to have 200mb free all the time |
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| 08:24.07 | voltagex | sickgut: so use a different browser? |
| 08:25.29 | sickgut | just asking so if anyone had same prob then its browser not me laymeness |
| 08:25.41 | sickgut | hoping its not the browser coz seamonkey is so sweet |
| 08:25.50 | sickgut | i would let it chew on my dome |
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| 08:25.58 | Shirakawasuna | wow, seamonkey has lots of stuff built-in. I thought it was just browser+ email |
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| 08:26.07 | andreluiz | how can i change the regulatory domain of my wireless card? |
| 08:26.08 | sickgut | im using the seamonkey irc |
| 08:26.18 | sickgut | its the best and the url links all work |
| 08:26.28 | dyingprism | wow. so i actually got the nvidia proprietary drivers, eve online, and compiz running great after all these hours... does anyone know the name of that utility to monitor temps and performance that you can imbed on the desktops? |
| 08:26.36 | sickgut | for last 10 years ive just been using gmail |
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| 08:28.53 | Shirakawasuna | sickgut: looks pretty cool. I'd try to help w/ the memory thing, but I'm not running deiban :/ |
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| 08:30.27 | wols_ | Shirakawasuna: iirc it depends on the chip/driver |
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| 08:33.25 | Abyssion | Great.... now I have another problem. My laptop auto-logs me in and I decided to try booting into whatever "TWM" is that it provides in the list of WMs/DEs at login. TWM doesn't work; it just hangs. How do I get back to the login screen? |
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| 08:33.42 | voltagex | Abyssion: try ctrl-alt-backspace |
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| 08:34.25 | Abyssion | voltagex: No change. I've just got a black screen with the Gnome "loading..." cursor. |
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| 08:34.53 | voltagex | Abyssion: not sure what's happened, you can always ctrl-alt-f1 to get a console, we can start from there |
| 08:35.02 | Abyssion | I know, but I don't know what to enter |
| 08:35.11 | voltagex | killall gdm for a start |
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| 08:35.50 | wols_ | Abyssion: twm is a window manager. a very very basic windowmanager |
| 08:36.07 | Abyssion | Well, it doesn't work, apparently |
| 08:36.11 | wols_ | Abyssion: logout from twm and you should be back at your nromal displaymanager |
| 08:36.16 | voltagex | wols_: it shouldn't have stopped X reloading at all |
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| 08:36.23 | wols_ | it works fine. you just aren't accustomed to it |
| 08:36.25 | Abyssion | sudo killall gdm3 killed it, now I've got a blank window with a cursor |
| 08:36.48 | voltagex | probably have to restart gdm3 then |
| 08:36.50 | Abyssion | wols_: No... it doesn't work at all... I log into it and I get a blank screen with the "loading" cursor. No menus, no nothing. |
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| 08:37.28 | wols_ | Abyssion: that IS twm. I told you it's basic. and yes it does work |
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| 08:37.38 | action09 | hi all |
| 08:37.44 | Abyssion | voltagex: '/etc/init.d/gdm3 restart' right? No change |
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| 08:38.07 | wols_ | Abyssion: are you on the console? X is all stopped and none running? |
| 08:38.11 | Abyssion | Right |
| 08:38.13 | action09 | back :) sorry i ask a question/help and slept on my keyboard :( i have a problem installing iceweasel 5 on stable, here the infos: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/b343ac01/ |
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| 08:39.46 | voltagex | I'm not sure Abyssion |
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| 08:40.06 | Abyssion | 'startx' gives me...... |
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| 08:40.47 | Abyssion | Okay. That's confusing. It put me into Gnome. |
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| 08:41.13 | Abyssion | I log out and I'm back to a console... |
| 08:41.20 | Abyssion | I reboot... |
| 08:41.35 | babilen | action09: Could you carefully compare your command for installing iceweasel to the one given on http://mozilla.debian.net please? (hint: -t) |
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| 08:43.51 | Abyssion | ....I reboot and I'm at a blank black screen with the "loading" cursor. |
| 08:43.58 | Abyssion | wols_: If this really is TWM, how do I tell it to log me out? |
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| 08:44.09 | wols_ | Abyssion: right click on desktop (I think) |
| 08:44.12 | action09 | babilen oops sorry yes but same error with -t .. http://paste.debian.net/124643/ |
| 08:44.22 | Abyssion | wols_: Does nothing... |
| 08:44.35 | wols_ | Abyssion: and this is normal. your /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager is gnome while there is a setting in gdm3 now which tells it to log you in to twm |
| 08:44.51 | wols_ | so you need to change the gdm3 setting. I dunno how to config gdm3 tho |
| 08:45.01 | wols_ | Abyssion: is twm running? |
| 08:45.13 | Abyssion | wols_: I don't know. Blank black screen, "loading" cursor. |
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| 08:45.39 | valdyn | Abyssion: you can chose a session at the login screen |
| 08:46.03 | Abyssion | wols_: Wait, holding down left click brought up a menu that let me get back to the login screen |
| 08:46.13 | wols_ | valdyn: he can't. he set his gdm to autologin... |
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| 08:46.21 | valdyn | I see |
| 08:46.36 | voltagex | What would cause the following kernel oops? Jul 31 18:03:18 horus kernel: [ 561.494767] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0 (r8169): transmit queue 0 timed out |
| 08:46.38 | wols_ | Abyssion: if you logout from twm, it _should_ get you back to gdm |
| 08:46.39 | Abyssion | I autologin because I use disk encryption and I don't want to have to enter two passwords on boot |
| 08:46.46 | Abyssion | wols_: Yes, the problem is fixed now |
| 08:46.46 | wols_ | voltagex: faulty NIC |
| 08:47.04 | voltagex | wols_: it's onboard, and works fine in another OS. |
| 08:47.20 | voltagex | wols_: this is the first time in 10 years I've had problems with a realtek nic in Linux |
| 08:47.38 | Abyssion | anyway, it's 2 in the morning |
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| 08:47.45 | Abyssion | wols_ and voltagex, thanks for your help earlier |
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| 08:49.01 | voltagex | wols_: the funny thing is, the NIC works for about a minute with the r8169 driver, koops happens with Realtek's own R8168 driver |
| 08:49.13 | wols_ | voltagex: there is nothing wrong with your NIC, your kernel is wrong, relax. better? |
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| 08:50.07 | voltagex | wols_: same problem, different description :P |
| 08:50.49 | voltagex | full pastebin of the r8168 is at http://pastebin.com/3qQPSJei anyway |
| 08:51.39 | wols_ | why would anyone willingly use realtek proprietary drivers? |
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| 08:54.11 | voltagex | wols_: because R8169 free driver results in 90% packet loss |
| 08:54.53 | wols_ | voltagex: maybe, just maybe your hardware is bad after all when both have problems? |
| 08:55.22 | tsccof | how many active Debian developers exist? |
| 08:55.22 | voltagex | Faulty only under Linux? |
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| 08:56.40 | krakrjak | wols_: I've been calling hardware since voltagex first saw the port flapping up and down every few seconds in dmesg. |
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| 08:57.33 | krakrjak | voltagex: if you really really don't think it's hardware cause it works in windows then maybe you need more kernels to test with. |
| 08:57.42 | voltagex | krakrjak, wols, ok ok, but until next week when I can buy a new NIC or motherboard I would really like this system to work |
| 08:57.49 | voltagex | krakrjak: which kernels would you suggest? |
| 08:58.01 | krakrjak | voltagex: what have you tried? |
| 08:58.11 | tvman | Is this the place to ask apt related questions? |
| 08:58.18 | voltagex | krakrjak: 2.6.32 and 2.6.39 |
| 08:58.40 | krakrjak | voltagex: ok so those are the two I'd start with. Was either one any better? |
| 08:59.02 | krakrjak | voltagex: do you have another NIC laying around in a long lost corner? |
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| 08:59.25 | sakal | hi, I have pptp by pptpsetup. so, I got an connection and I need add route to some host. I try: route add -host 10.8.2.111 gw 10.2.5.115 and got message: No such process. Where 10.8.2.111 - target hot, 10.2.5.115 - server IP in pptp session |
| 08:59.34 | pharvey | voltagex: FWIW I have an rt8169 in an old box running 2.6.32. That NIC doesn't see much traffic, but I haven't noticed any problems. |
| 08:59.37 | sakal | what I doing wrong? |
| 08:59.39 | krakrjak | voltagex: perhaps a second onboard port to use if this one is out? |
| 09:00.02 | voltagex | krakrjak: 2.6.39 slightly better, no spare NICs, will ask at my office tomorrow and if not I will go and buy one. |
| 09:00.02 | wols_ | tvman: depends on which distro you run your apt |
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| 09:00.51 | voltagex | "soft lockup" interesting |
| 09:00.51 | stasi | i get an error when i do apt-update for etch |
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| 09:01.20 | wols_ | !tell stasi about bat |
| 09:01.43 | voltagex | very strange, unplugging and plugging in the cable brought the system back |
| 09:01.51 | tvman | ahh yes i am running debian squeeze and was wondering if there are repo problems in the USA right now |
| 09:02.42 | pharvey | you might try clearing your bios settings or pressing whatever buttons it takes to force your bios to re-assign IRQs/reset DMI/etc. |
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| 09:03.04 | sickgut | WOTS TWM |
| 09:03.04 | krakrjak | sakal: try ip route add 10.8.2.111 via 10.2.5.115 |
| 09:03.08 | voltagex | pharvey: good idea. |
| 09:03.09 | sickgut | ooops caps sry |
| 09:03.34 | sickgut | is it "teh windowzes managerzerzes" ? |
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| 09:04.12 | voltagex | tiny window manager I think. |
| 09:04.26 | wols_ | sickgut: twm is the windowmanager xorg ships with |
| 09:04.39 | sakal | krakrjak, thank you |
| 09:04.43 | krakrjak | tsccof: not enough. 243 were in the group picture at DebConf11 |
| 09:05.01 | voltagex | krakrjak: getting to DebConf is expensive. |
| 09:05.06 | wols_ | krakrjak: DDs != maintainers btw |
| 09:05.10 | sickgut | rly? |
| 09:05.11 | krakrjak | sakal: no problem. I try to steer clear of the old hard to remember route command and use ip now. |
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| 09:05.15 | sickgut | it ships with one |
| 09:05.17 | wols_ | and there are around a thousand DDs IIRC |
| 09:05.25 | sickgut | so i type xinit then twm? |
| 09:05.47 | stasi | deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ etch contrib main <-- this line in sourceslist give a 404 not found error |
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| 09:05.54 | kgoetz | wols_: i thought it was only 600ish active now? |
| 09:06.01 | sickgut | i know how to solve DD problem shortages |
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| 09:06.12 | themill | stasi: etch hasn't been on the mirrors for a very long time. /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 09:06.24 | stasi | right |
| 09:06.30 | stasi | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:06.31 | voltagex | krakrjak: how did you force yourself to learn the ip command? is there a tutorial for people who are *really* used to route |
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| 09:06.37 | wols_ | kgoetz: could be. I don't really know |
| 09:06.50 | tvman | stasi: your getting 404 errors too? |
| 09:06.52 | sickgut | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dd/dd/dd/dd/dd/dd/dd/dd/dd/dd/dd/dddddddddddddddddddddddd.img bs=1M count=999 |
| 09:07.03 | stasi | tvman: yes |
| 09:07.17 | stasi | is there any repository that still does support etch ? |
| 09:07.42 | wols_ | archive.debian.org |
| 09:07.53 | themill | stasi: read what dpkg would have told you.... |
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| 09:08.52 | stasi | k thanks |
| 09:08.54 | krakrjak | voltagex: just practice. The big win was the output of ip route show is much easier to read. |
| 09:09.21 | krakrjak | voltagex: so reading man pages and relying on that one command and knowing that ip is so much more powerful I had to keep learning it. |
| 09:09.23 | voltagex | krakrjak: I gave up on a few tricky routing jobs just because I didn't understand route |
| 09:09.49 | krakrjak | voltagex: I'm a routing kinda guy. Some people see bridges, I see routing tables. |
| 09:11.23 | voltagex | so if my system still responds to SysRQ I guess it isn't a proper crash |
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| 09:13.10 | krakrjak | voltagex: well the kernel is still running at that point. |
| 09:13.36 | voltagex | krakrjak: I'm not used to a kernel oops where the system comes back after 5 minutes. |
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| 09:14.49 | voltagex | is this soft lockup stuff new? |
| 09:15.00 | krakrjak | voltagex: the OOM killer will teach you that one :) Linux comes back from a lot of failures these days. |
| 09:15.21 | voltagex | krakrjak: It must be at least 5 years since I've used Linux like this |
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| 09:15.36 | krakrjak | voltagex: oops being isolated to a single driver and not _always_ causing a full PANIC is a couple of years old now, but pretty modern. |
| 09:16.01 | voltagex | krakrjak: hopefully that means I can diagnose this problem and solve it. What's your suggestion for the next kernel to try? |
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| 09:18.00 | krakrjak | voltagex: I think you need to install kdump, a crash kernel and get it to dump through the SysRq while you're having the problem. |
| 09:18.41 | voltagex | krakrjak: is that as simple as apt-get install kdump? |
| 09:19.07 | voltagex | evidently not |
| 09:19.13 | krakrjak | voltagex: try aptitude install -s kdump |
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| 09:19.55 | krakrjak | voltagex: kdump-tools |
| 09:19.58 | voltagex | krakrjak: from my untrained eye, it looks like two programs tried to grab a handle to the NIC at the same time, but I'll try that |
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| 09:20.57 | pharvey | voltagex: FWIW I've had some "soft lockups" with 2.6.39, where kworker threads max out CPU |
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| 09:21.16 | voltagex | "This is just a placeholder until real man page has been written" |
| 09:21.21 | krakrjak | voltagex: like dhclient running twice? |
| 09:21.26 | voltagex | July 27 2005. Sigh |
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| 09:22.21 | voltagex | krakrjak: what sysrq combination invokes kdump? |
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| 09:23.09 | krakrjak | voltagex: you setup kdump to dump on PANIC. Then use the syrq for panic. |
| 09:23.25 | voltagex | krakrjak: uhh, ok |
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| 09:25.59 | me-1 | hi....how is Linux mint Debian...??? |
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| 09:26.15 | qop | what is the support time of Debian? |
| 09:26.23 | kgoetz | me-1: itisn't |
| 09:26.27 | kgoetz | qop: pardon? |
| 09:26.29 | qop | me-1: Mint is not Debian? |
| 09:26.57 | nevyn | no |
| 09:27.00 | Morten_ | qop, has far as I know, the linux mint debian edition is based on Debian testing instead of Ubuntu. |
| 09:27.01 | krakrjak | votagex: nice thing about that setup is if the sysrqs are working you can sync the disks first. |
| 09:27.04 | qop | kgoetz: How long a debian release is supported... you know, patches and stuff |
| 09:27.11 | ompaul | !mint |
| 09:27.11 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 09:27.19 | me-1 | qop, there is a linux mint debian version |
| 09:27.33 | kgoetz | qop: 12months after the release of the next release. |
| 09:27.43 | me-1 | linux mint based on debian |
| 09:28.03 | qop | kgoetz: Morten_: still it is Mint not debian, the only one I know it is 1005 compatible to Debian is Mepis |
| 09:28.12 | qop | me-1: ^ |
| 09:28.19 | qop | kgoetz: :p oopsies |
| 09:28.27 | qop | kgoetz: and thanks :) |
| 09:28.33 | Morten_ | qop, it's still based on it, eventhough it ain't 100% compatible :) |
| 09:28.34 | kgoetz | qop: np :) |
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| 09:29.33 | qop | Morten_: peaches aren't pomergrenade even if they are both based on seeds, trees and leafs |
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| 09:29.43 | me-1 | qop, well ok |
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| 09:30.22 | Morten_ | qop, "Yes, 100%. LMDE is compatible with repositories designed for Debian Testing or Debian Squeeze." - http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php |
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| 09:30.31 | qop | btw, mepis is a quite nice port... just sayin |
| 09:30.31 | Morten_ | they could be lying. |
| 09:30.48 | ompaul | please drop the mint chatter thanks |
| 09:30.49 | Morten_ | !mepis |
| 09:30.49 | dpkg | MEPIS is a live CD distribution based on Debian. SimplyMEPIS 11 (based on Squeeze), SimplyMEPIS 8.0/8.5 (based on Lenny) and antiX (based on <testing>) are not supported in #debian. http://www.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 09:33.47 | grenddale | my wireless card is fixed at channel -1. how to set it to a desired channel? |
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| 09:34.18 | voltagex | krakrjak: still fighting with kdump here |
| 09:34.47 | optraz | any good website generator in debian? been doing with webgen but it is a total broken software |
| 09:34.59 | optraz | i need a working website generator. |
| 09:35.00 | kgoetz | no such thing as a good website generator -.- |
| 09:35.10 | kgoetz | grenddale: what sort of card/chipset? |
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| 09:35.28 | optraz | kgoetz: How do you mean? |
| 09:35.30 | optraz | i need a workign one |
| 09:35.31 | optraz | that's it |
| 09:35.34 | voltagex | krakrjak: no matter what parameters I pass to the kernel, kdump still asks me to reserve memory |
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| 09:35.59 | grenddale | kgoetz: rt2500 |
| 09:36.04 | krakrjak | voltagex: you have to reserve some memory like 16M |
| 09:36.22 | qop | optraz: Hyde ;) http://iwantmyname.com/blog/2011/02/list-static-website-generators.html |
| 09:36.26 | chenthu | krakrjak: hey...how r u ...morning |
| 09:36.52 | kgoetz | grenddale: hm, not familiar with that one |
| 09:36.55 | kgoetz | dpkg: rt2500 |
| 09:36.55 | dpkg | The Ralink RT2500 802.11g PCI chipset (RT2500/RT2560) is supported by the rt2500pci next-generation driver, included in mainline Linux kernels since 2.6.24. It does not require firmware from userspace. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt2500 . For RT2500USB/RT2571 device support, ask me about <rt2500usb>. |
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| 09:37.15 | voltagex | krakrjak: /proc/cmdline says the last parameter was crashkernel=64M@16M |
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| 09:37.53 | grenddale | kgoetz: thks. |
| 09:37.58 | optraz | qop: the webgen is a rubbish software in the repos |
| 09:38.10 | optraz | when run as per describe int eh documentation, it miss the dependency.. |
| 09:38.12 | optraz | what a crap software |
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| 09:38.33 | grenddale | kgoetz: doesn't really answer my question. |
| 09:38.37 | qop | optraz: I feel itchy with ruby sorry, no xp there |
| 09:38.45 | optraz | yes, ruby shit |
| 09:38.47 | optraz | shoudl have remove that |
| 09:39.18 | kgoetz | grenddale: no, it doesnt. unless you can set it the normal way (eg, iwconfig foo channel) i've no idea |
| 09:39.27 | chenthu | hey guys...u know how to connect to wifi from terminal? |
| 09:39.29 | qop | it isnt crap, I just... nvm doesnt matter |
| 09:39.53 | grenddale | kgoetz: have tried with iwconfig, no go. thks anyway. |
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| 09:40.26 | kgoetz | grenddale: perhaps check syslog for errors? |
| 09:40.33 | voltagex | eep! 442mb kernel-dbg package |
| 09:40.37 | Morten_ | chenthu, have you tried the program wicd? |
| 09:40.44 | krakrjak | chenthu: morning! |
| 09:40.50 | grenddale | kgoetz: yeah, thks for the suggestion. |
| 09:40.57 | krakrjak | chenthu: time to make the coffee and update the kernel sources. |
| 09:41.05 | chenthu | Morten_: is it through terminal? |
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| 09:41.11 | krakrjak | voltagex: that seems about right... what are you fighting? |
| 09:41.17 | Morten_ | chenthu, wicd-cli is :) |
| 09:41.33 | chenthu | krakrjak: morning! |
| 09:41.39 | krakrjak | voltagex: yeah, but it's got everything. Debug symbols for all your hardware. |
| 09:41.39 | voltagex | krakrjak: it says I haven't reserved memory, anyway I need to download the debug kernel first I guess. |
| 09:41.50 | grenddale | can debian runs on tablets e.g. apple ipad, samsung galaxy? |
| 09:41.52 | eshat | where to find the debconf videos ? |
| 09:41.55 | krakrjak | voltagex: try 128M@16M |
| 09:42.04 | voltagex | krakrjak: all hardware, not just mine ;) glad this isn't metered traffic |
| 09:42.16 | optraz | qop: you must be shitting me |
| 09:42.17 | chenthu | Morten_: how to download that?..... |
| 09:42.19 | optraz | the link u given |
| 09:42.33 | ronald | what a relief, just ditched ubuntu (unity; blegh) and installed my very first debian |
| 09:42.37 | krakrjak | voltagex: nah just for your platform. doesn't include the ppc debug stuff ;) |
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| 09:42.52 | voltagex | krakrjak: I long for PPC after using this motherboard :P |
| 09:42.53 | chenthu | krakrjak: u wanna see my Xorg.log file?...so that u vould help me? |
| 09:43.21 | krakrjak | chenthu: pastebin it up |
| 09:43.27 | voltagex | krakrjak: how do you calculate the reserved amount? I have 6GB in my box |
| 09:43.29 | qop | optraz: yes? |
| 09:43.34 | qop | whats wrong |
| 09:43.42 | optraz | qop: i just want a simple website generator.... |
| 09:43.48 | optraz | i do not watn to go into the fineer details |
| 09:43.53 | voltagex | optraz: there is no such thing |
| 09:43.54 | optraz | please suggest a good tools |
| 09:44.12 | chenthu | krakrjak: http://paste.debian.net/124626/ |
| 09:44.20 | optraz | i want a few pages, like home, contact us, what's new |
| 09:44.23 | optraz | seomthing like that |
| 09:44.26 | qop | optraz: I gave you a list with 32 options, rather you choose a foolproof one or not is your option |
| 09:44.36 | optraz | no need go into fancy and non-working generator which u need to learn in order to generate |
| 09:44.45 | qop | optraz: and I already said Hyde |
| 09:44.48 | chenthu | Morten_: can u give me the download link.? |
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| 09:45.19 | Morten_ | chenthu, it should be in the repo |
| 09:45.22 | ronald | krakrjak: good idea, coffee! |
| 09:45.32 | qop | optraz: hyde supports all of Django |
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| 09:45.57 | voltagex | qop: Django isn't exactly "simple" |
| 09:46.05 | odn | bonjour. je démarre en script schell et je n'arrive pas à faire une fonction... |
| 09:46.08 | odn | #!/bin/bash |
| 09:46.08 | odn | function default { |
| 09:46.08 | odn | } |
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| 09:46.21 | odn | ./launcher.sh: line 3: Erreur de syntaxe près du symbole inattendu « } » |
| 09:46.21 | odn | ./launcher.sh: line 3: `}' |
| 09:46.24 | qop | voltagex: you dont have to mess with django even... whatever |
| 09:46.31 | qop | odn: ... |
| 09:46.31 | kgoetz | odn: englishin here please |
| 09:46.39 | kgoetz | odn: and use a pastebin |
| 09:46.40 | qop | no flood |
| 09:46.44 | odn | oh sorry :s |
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| 09:47.25 | chenthu | Morten_: The problem is i cant access the repo, as i am not connected to the net, i can connect it using wifi nd theat too cant get to a loggin in screen, as i have a problem with my graphic driver, i just somehow installed my wifi driver with th0rs help...the only way is to download on my windows laptop and use a usb to transfer to my linux |
| 09:47.44 | optraz | qop: useless |
| 09:47.47 | optraz | server error in hyde |
| 09:47.49 | optraz | i cannot download |
| 09:47.49 | krakrjak | chenthu: ok I have some good news and maybe some bad news. What kernel are you running and are you using btrfs? |
| 09:47.51 | grenddale | the last time i chat, #ubuntu was much more active than #debian. now its the other way round. what's happening? |
| 09:48.01 | qop | optraz: learn politeness or gtfo |
| 09:48.03 | krakrjak | ronald: yes! Must grind beans now! |
| 09:48.18 | optraz | qop: click on the https://nodeload.github.com/lakshmivyas/hyde/zipball/master |
| 09:48.18 | chenthu | krakrjak: how to find that? |
| 09:48.20 | optraz | u see why |
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| 09:49.23 | krakrjak | chenthu: I think I know your problem. It looks a lot like my roomate's issue with the novea driver and 2.6.39. |
| 09:49.45 | optraz | i just want a simple and working website generator with few pages. i do not need what django or etc. |
| 09:49.57 | chenthu | krakrjak: yay........now u bring hope to me.... :) |
| 09:50.01 | nevyn | optraz: ickywiki? |
| 09:50.06 | krakrjak | chenthu: can you try using the nv driver? |
| 09:50.09 | wols | chenthu: so how far along are you with your network driver? |
| 09:50.25 | wols | chenthu: the driver works but you are not connected to an access point yet? |
| 09:50.30 | chenthu | krakrjak: how to and where to download |
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| 09:50.55 | krakrjak | chenthu: it's hosted in non-free |
| 09:51.03 | chenthu | wols: my network driver is installed and i can scan my wifi now...th0r's idea worked...thank all you guys for your support ..... |
| 09:51.28 | optraz | nevyn: What? |
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| 09:51.41 | krakrjak | chenthu: ack!!! sorry... look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 09:51.42 | nevyn | optraz: website generator |
| 09:51.45 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok....so first i got to connect to network right? |
| 09:52.00 | krakrjak | chenthu: no not to change the X driver. |
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| 09:52.06 | chenthu | krakrjak: i dont have that file |
| 09:52.07 | wols | chenthu: what encryption does your WLAN network use? |
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| 09:52.36 | krakrjak | chenthu: them make one that only has the video card in it and tell it to use the nv driver |
| 09:52.43 | krakrjak | *then |
| 09:53.00 | optraz | nevyn: does it working? please give something that is working. so far i get like webgen (borken dependency), hyde (server cannot be access), and that's frustrating.. my requirement is simple |
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| 09:53.15 | optraz | nevyn: i just watn a simple website generator, i do NOT need any fancy django or waht |
| 09:53.18 | optraz | ajax |
| 09:53.37 | chenthu | wols: wpa2 |
| 09:53.50 | kgoetz | optraz: which wbgen dependency is broken? |
| 09:53.55 | ronald | doh, how do i scroll up in irssi :P |
| 09:53.56 | chenthu | wols: wpa2 PSK |
| 09:53.58 | nevyn | optraz: how do you want to write? |
| 09:54.01 | kgoetz | optraz: if its uninstallable a bug should be filed |
| 09:54.02 | nevyn | ronald: pgup |
| 09:54.08 | optraz | kgoetz: kramdown |
| 09:54.18 | ronald | nevyn: ty :) |
| 09:54.20 | wols | ronald: pgup. and you can use /lastlog <pattern> |
| 09:54.24 | optraz | kgoetz: something liek that you can install webgen and then run webgen on the create dir |
| 09:54.42 | kgoetz | optraz: did you use the debian packages? |
| 09:54.44 | optraz | nevyn: write that? |
| 09:54.49 | chenthu | krakrjak: if you could put the steps in pastebin so i could use it step by step...cause i am new to linux and not good with these stuffs |
| 09:54.55 | optraz | kgoetz: are you kidding me? im using apt-get |
| 09:54.58 | wols | chenthu: do you have installer cd CD1 or did you install from netinst? |
| 09:55.12 | nevyn | optraz: ickywiki takes markdown or RST and creates webpages |
| 09:55.16 | kgoetz | optraz: thats not something you'd specified, so no, i'm not kidding |
| 09:55.23 | wols | chenthu: but first decide what you want to do: network access or X running? |
| 09:55.30 | kgoetz | nevyn: hm, that sounds win |
| 09:55.40 | optraz | kgoetz: why dont you install that app yourself |
| 09:55.40 | kgoetz | nevyn: packaged? |
| 09:55.42 | optraz | and follow the readme |
| 09:55.49 | chenthu | wols: installer cd1....but networ driver i got those files from th0r |
| 09:55.50 | nevyn | kgoetz: should be. |
| 09:55.51 | optraz | u know why than asking againa nd again here |
| 09:55.57 | kgoetz | optraz: frankly, because i'm not interested in it |
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| 09:56.05 | optraz | kgoetz: so am i, no more on that crap |
| 09:56.13 | wols | ,versions webgen |
| 09:56.14 | judd | Package webgen on i386 -- lenny: 0.3.8-3; squeeze: 0.3.8-3; sid: 0.3.8-4; wheezy: 0.3.8-4 |
| 09:56.14 | chenthu | wols: network access so my X riunning could be easy |
| 09:56.16 | kgoetz | optraz: you are the one here whiningin that people won't spoon feed you |
| 09:56.24 | optraz | kgoetz: no im not |
| 09:56.28 | kgoetz | nevyn: i'll go and have a look for it then |
| 09:56.34 | optraz | im just frustrate the thign given here is not working |
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| 09:56.38 | optraz | nvm |
| 09:56.39 | optraz | i go google |
| 09:56.42 | optraz | thanks for your help =) |
| 09:56.44 | wols | chenthu: there is a wpasupplicant on the cd. install that |
| 09:57.19 | voltagex | krakrjak: ok, debug kernel is installed, now what? |
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| 09:57.47 | chenthu | wols: i have to write it to a usb to and then load it now i think...which folde u know? |
| 09:57.52 | kgoetz | optraz: goodluck with it |
| 09:58.34 | optraz | nevyn: do you mean Icky Wiki ? |
| 09:58.55 | kgoetz | nevyn: ickywiki doesn't appear to be in squeeze :/ i'll try and pull it off the 'net though. |
| 09:58.58 | wols | chenthu: you said you have CD1 sinec you installed from that |
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| 10:00.13 | nevyn | yeah I did |
| 10:00.14 | krakrjak | voltagex: brb, look up the sysrq commands so you can sync your disks and panic the system when you see the driver go crazy and lock up the system. |
| 10:00.32 | chenthu | wols: yeah i downloaded cd one and used a usb installer, by using the command 'cat' |
| 10:00.50 | wols | chenthu: and you have overwritten that USB stick since? |
| 10:00.59 | chenthu | krakrjak: can u please tell me how to make that file and what to put in? |
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| 10:01.22 | chenthu | wols: yeah...but that isnt a problem i can write it again in a jiffy |
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| 10:02.29 | wols | no need |
| 10:02.55 | chenthu | wols: oh ook..then wht should i do? |
| 10:03.46 | krakrjak | chenthu: give me a minute I'll paste up a shell xorg.conf for ya |
| 10:03.56 | wols | install wpasupplicant and wireless-tools |
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| 10:04.07 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok thank you...sorry if i am bugging u a lot |
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| 10:04.32 | chenthu | wols: ok wireless tools as such? |
| 10:04.48 | krakrjak | chenthu: nah, I'm just getting sleepy. been hacking at iSCSI most of the evening and night. Time to get ready for the morning. Sun's going to rise here soon. |
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| 10:05.35 | voltagex | krakrjak: this can continue tomorrow, but looks like sysrq-C is disabled in my kernel |
| 10:05.39 | chenthu | krakrjak: lol....oh ok..u nocturnal like me... |
| 10:05.54 | voltagex | krakrjak: kexec is...interesting |
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| 10:08.23 | chenthu | wols: installing wpasupplicant now...anything else should i install? |
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| 10:12.31 | action09 | hmm |
| 10:12.41 | action09 | no one for my iceweasel pb ? :) |
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| 10:16.58 | voltagex | krakrjak: finally got kdump to load |
| 10:17.29 | chenthu | wols: installed wpa supplicant...wht else |
| 10:17.52 | krakrjak | chenthu: http://paste.debian.net/124651 save that as /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try again. |
| 10:18.15 | krakrjak | voltagex: ok so now you have a kernel you can dump? |
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| 10:18.28 | krakrjak | voltagex: just try it and see if you get anything in /var/crash |
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| 10:18.39 | voltagex | krakrjak: I'm not sure, it booted the non -dbg kernel last time |
| 10:18.52 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok Tq |
| 10:19.09 | krakrjak | voltagex: it's not suppossed to boot the dbg kernel, just be there for symbols, it runs the normal kernel. |
| 10:19.17 | babilen | chenthu: /me would rather recommend to save that as, say, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nv.conf |
| 10:19.33 | voltagex | ooh, no response from sysrq this time |
| 10:20.01 | babilen | chenthu: Tried the nvidia module(s) ? |
| 10:20.25 | babilen | chenthu: Oh, and more importantly: Are you online now? |
| 10:21.54 | voltagex | e |
| 10:21.59 | ronald | what would be a nice twitterclient for debian, tried tweetdeck but hate it, far too..big |
| 10:22.17 | chenthu | babilen: i installed the wifi drivers now...i can scan my wifi successfully ...but trying to figure out how to connect to wifi |
| 10:22.41 | krakrjak | chenthu: hopefully that will help some. |
| 10:22.51 | action09 | ronald not debian related, but used echofon in firefox/iceweasel |
| 10:23.16 | jimcooncat | where can I find a doc to describe .forward file? Would like to have two addresses in /root/.forward |
| 10:23.16 | babilen | chenthu: You want to connect to a WPA(2) encrypted network IIRC, is that correct? |
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| 10:23.21 | chenthu | krakrjak: yeah/...i hope....now i have to restart and see if this nvidia thing works? |
| 10:23.34 | babilen | "nv" is not "nvidia" |
| 10:24.01 | voltagex | krakrjak: system didn't come back from the soft hang this time |
| 10:24.07 | babilen | Ok, too many helpers on the loose -- /me stops confusing. |
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| 10:24.49 | voltagex | krakrjak: is there a way for me to build a debug version of the r8169 driver to get some more verbose output from it? |
| 10:24.49 | chenthu | babilen: oh ok .....and yeah i wanna connect to a WPA2 PSK encryoted network named Chenthu.....but no idea what is IIRC |
| 10:24.56 | wols | chenthu: what is your network interface? "iwconfig" tells you |
| 10:25.17 | babilen | ronald: There are plenty, people like gwibber IIRC, but bitlbee (the libpurple variant) is also a nice. |
| 10:25.29 | babilen | chenthu: IIRC == if I remember correctly :) |
| 10:25.54 | chenthu | babilen: oh ok...lol |
| 10:25.56 | krakrjak | chenthu: so if you can scan and you have wpasupplicant all you need is a conf file right? http://paste.debian.net/124653 as /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 10:26.09 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, the method to do so is detailed in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz and on http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpa_supplicant |
| 10:26.26 | webad_13 | my installation of debian does not have smooth fonts - it was bare bones installation on which I added gnome-core and openbox... On my other installations of debian I had no problems with fonts (neither with Ubuntu) - on the same machine |
| 10:27.01 | wols | chenthu: in your /etc/network/interfaces put something like this http://paste.debian.net/124654/ and then run ifup wlan0 |
| 10:27.10 | webad_13 | so is there some package of fonts that I should install to improve rendering or what, please help - it looks ugly :) |
| 10:27.13 | babilen | krakrjak: That would also need the "wpa-roam" configuration in /etc/network/interfaces -- This is overkill right now, as I am sure that chenthu will want to use wicd/network-manager eventually. |
| 10:27.41 | ronald | action09; you're right, not really debian related :) |
| 10:27.53 | ronald | babilen: i'll give bitlbee a try, thanks |
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| 10:28.20 | babilen | chenthu: Fow what its worth: I would just directly configure the network in /etc/network/interfaces as detailed in WPA-PSK and WPA2-PSK â 3. on the Debian wiki. |
| 10:28.39 | krakrjak | voltagex: if it's not out of the kernel tree than your debug kernel has those extra symbols. To get more information out of that module try http://ltp.sourceforge.net |
| 10:29.23 | krakrjak | babilen: ??? not for just a single connection to get it working. |
| 10:29.29 | babilen | chenthu: Once you have your essid and pre-shared key (i.e. passphrase) in there you can bring up the interface with "ifup wlan0" (assuming your wireless interface is wlan0) |
| 10:29.35 | voltagex | krakrjak: it looks like I can't even do modprobe r8169 debug=1 |
| 10:29.42 | chenthu | babilen: my iwconfig tells that : http://paste.debian.net/124656/ |
| 10:29.58 | krakrjak | voltagex: is debug=1 a valid option for that module? |
| 10:30.09 | chenthu | babilen: its already up i did that yeterday... |
| 10:30.32 | voltagex | krakrjak: not for a while, it seems |
| 10:30.41 | voltagex | krakrjak: hence wanting to rebuild it |
| 10:31.00 | babilen | chenthu: but it is not associating with your network ... Please make sure the psk is in "" |
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| 10:31.21 | krakrjak | voltagex: gotcha. |
| 10:31.24 | babilen | chenthu: What do you have in /etc/network/interfaces now? |
| 10:31.25 | wols | chenthu: what is the interface name of your wlan device? |
| 10:31.31 | chenthu | wols: how to edit the interfaces file?...nano? |
| 10:31.36 | wols | chenthu: yes |
| 10:33.08 | voltagex | krakrjak: argh, I can't get kdump to pay attention to the crash as sysrq-C is disabled |
| 10:33.23 | chenthu | wols: ok |
| 10:33.37 | wols | chenthu: last time: what is the name of your WLAN interface? |
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| 10:35.15 | chenthu | babilen: auto lo |
| 10:35.43 | chenthu | babilen: iface lo inet loopback ....these are the things i have in my interface file now |
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| 10:36.34 | chenthu | wols and babilen : my wlan interface name is wlan0 |
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| 10:37.03 | wols | chenthu: then the interfaces stanza I a pasted is correct for you |
| 10:37.07 | krakrjak | voltagex: ACK! |
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| 10:38.02 | babilen | wols: Oh, you pasted one before? hehe, too many helpers indeed :) |
| 10:38.23 | wols | < wols> chenthu: in your /etc/network/interfaces put something like this http://paste.debian.net/124654/ and then run ifup wlan0 |
| 10:38.24 | chenthu | wols: ok i just added |
| 10:38.32 | voltagex | krakrjak: I believe the correct response here would be RST |
| 10:38.52 | duga|away | is away: Jestem zajÄty |
| 10:39.05 | krakrjak | voltagex: lol! I almost lost some coffee out the nose |
| 10:39.05 | wols | duga|away: remove that here |
| 10:39.14 | babilen | chenthu: What did you have in there before? |
| 10:39.17 | wols | duga: away messages are not allowed |
| 10:39.56 | chenthu | auto lo |
| 10:39.58 | chenthu | iface lo inet loopback ....these are the things i have in my interface file befor |
| 10:40.06 | chenthu | babilen: ^^^^ |
| 10:40.23 | voltagex | the stacktrace is interesting for this problem, but I guess it depends how much time you have krakrjak |
| 10:40.36 | voltagex | I should do what wols suggests and buy a new NIC |
| 10:40.55 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, I somehow assumed that you added the stanza wols gave you since yesterday night as we've been talking about it back then. |
| 10:40.56 | krakrjak | voltagex: some time actually I wouldn't mind looking. Yeah I think it's probably hardware. |
| 10:41.02 | chenthu | wols: do i have to installe wpa supplement before do ing that |
| 10:41.08 | wols | voltagex: you installed the firmware package some realtek NICs need? |
| 10:41.09 | babilen | chenthu: So, now that you've added it run "ifup wlan0" |
| 10:41.18 | chenthu | babilen: yeah i added it just now |
| 10:41.22 | voltagex | wols: neither driver requests the firmware |
| 10:41.23 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.27 | babilen | chenthu: yes, you need wpasupplicant. Didn't you install that already? |
| 10:41.29 | wols | chenthu: you said you have it already installed |
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| 10:41.48 | babilen | is confused |
| 10:41.50 | chenthu | wols oh my i9 just downloaded it..ok installing now |
| 10:42.16 | jesajdu | Hi I need help with bind, I've installed it and I made zone in named.conf, I made .db file where I've put Nameservers and records, but after restarting bind nslookup still doesn't work for domain I'm trying to setup, but when I write command "named-checkconf -z", it writes that zone loaded correctly. Any suggestions? |
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| 10:44.02 | jimcooncat | fresh squeeze install, cli only. Added user jim, configured Exim 4, mail working correctly. adduser mark results in no mail service for mark, get "/var/mail/mark: No such file or directory" in mutt |
| 10:44.33 | chenthu | babilen: my wpasupplement file is in tar.gz format i should use tar xfvj "filename" to install right? |
| 10:44.45 | wols | jimcooncat: have you send a mail to mark yet? |
| 10:44.54 | jimcooncat | wols, yes |
| 10:44.55 | wols | chenthu: then you downloaded the wrong file |
| 10:45.06 | wols | jimcooncat: then check logs where exim stored it |
| 10:45.13 | chenthu | wols: :( |
| 10:45.14 | babilen | chenthu: Please download the Debian package from http://packages.debian.org and install that. |
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| 10:45.21 | jimcooncat | is there an "adduser" command for exim? |
| 10:45.48 | babilen | chenthu: You can install it with "dpkg -i the_file_you_downloaded.deb" |
| 10:45.50 | wols | no. by default exim delivers to system users |
| 10:46.16 | jimcooncat | thanks wols, hitting the docs again |
| 10:46.18 | chenthu | babilen: ok... downloading now |
| 10:46.29 | wols | jimcooncat: unless you configured otherwise. do you actually know how to configure exim4 or did you follow a magic howto? |
| 10:46.52 | voltagex | krakrjak: fallen asleep over there? ;) |
| 10:47.07 | babilen | chenthu: You want http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/wpasupplicant (just to make sure -- and get the one for your architecture) |
| 10:47.32 | chenthu | babilen: thank you so much :) |
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| 10:47.45 | babilen | chenthu: brb |
| 10:48.26 | jimcooncat | wols, used "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" and debian documentation. |
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| 10:49.11 | voltagex | krakrjak: http://pastebin.com/2SBXTNGs is the full trace |
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| 10:56.44 | dwep | i've created the folder /usr/share/fonts/misc/ and added a .pcf.gz file in it, and mkfontcale/mkfontdir, xset +fp /usr/share/fonts/misc/ and xset fp rehash |
| 10:56.49 | dwep | but still nothing |
| 10:56.52 | chenthu | wols and babilen: i installed wpasupplicaant now ran ifup wlan0... i am getting a group of litening sending DHCPDiscpover |
| 10:57.12 | dwep | what gives? |
| 10:57.30 | wols | chenthu: and what is in your /etc/network/interfaces exactly? |
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| 10:59.10 | chenthu | wols: i will paste bin it now.... but now i get NO DHCPOFFERS recieved. and No working leases in persistent database -sleeping |
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| 11:00.10 | Parsifal | chenthu: I've had that problem caused by a wireless card that needs non-free firmware which isn't installed. Are you aware if this applies to you, and if not what model is your wireless card? |
| 11:00.45 | wols | Parsifal: supposedly that has been fixed, but I didn't actually check if he has it working. I trusted his say so, which might be wrong |
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| 11:01.12 | babilen | Parsifal: AFAIK chenthu installed the firmware yesterday night (it is an bcm4311 cards - firmware installed with fwcutter) |
| 11:01.24 | Parsifal | Ah, fair enough. |
| 11:01.49 | chenthu | wols: http://paste.debian.net/124657/ |
| 11:02.39 | wols | chenthu: looks alright. |
| 11:02.55 | chenthu | Parisfal: how to find that i forgot....its somthing like 4312 |
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| 11:03.31 | chenthu | Parisfal babilen : its not BCM4311 ITS BCM 4312 |
| 11:03.48 | krakrjak | voltagex: not much revealed there just that the link is flapping even in debug mode. |
| 11:03.55 | babilen | chenthu: Right, Mea culpa, was a bit tired yesterday :) |
| 11:04.16 | chenthu | babilen: thats ok... :) |
| 11:04.22 | voltagex | krakrjak: it is? |
| 11:04.24 | krakrjak | babilen: last I had checked in yesterday afternoon central us he had the fwcutter and bnx2 installed. |
| 11:05.02 | krakrjak | voltagex: at the end I see link down twice followed by a link up twice. |
| 11:05.25 | babilen | krakrjak: Ah, welcome back. Yes, I had that in mind too. |
| 11:05.40 | chenthu | krakrjak and babilen : but after that th0r helped me install bcm43 and bcm43 legacy it worked only then...it was able to scan and point my wifi |
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| 11:06.44 | babilen | chenthu: Which module do you use now? "lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i network" should tell you |
| 11:06.47 | chenthu | krakrjak: i will copy that Xorg.conf file in etc/X11 and restart to check if that worked well with the driver? |
| 11:06.52 | Woet | how does RAID 1 resync work with mdadm? How does it determine which data to add and remove to resync the drives? |
| 11:07.01 | optraz | kgoetz: nevyn do not know wht is ickywiki but there is a template in the some site giving free dowload, i guess i download from there and change =) |
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| 11:07.23 | babilen | chenthu: No, I pointed out earlier that you want to place it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d -- but please lets work on one problem at a time. |
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| 11:07.46 | brian-99 | I use debian 6.0 and I have ATI HD 4250. I can not set the frequency over 60Hz. I use the driver xorg-video-ati proprietary because the page load that I was doing worse. as change the frequency? |
| 11:07.51 | chenthu | babilen: ok....sry |
| 11:08.14 | voltagex | krakrjak: that was me pullling the cable to make the console responsive again |
| 11:08.17 | wols | brian-99: do you have a tft or a crt? |
| 11:08.37 | krakrjak | voltagex: can you dump the kernel while it's unresponsive? |
| 11:08.39 | brian-99 | CRT 17" LG 710E |
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| 11:08.59 | voltagex | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:09.15 | chenthu | babilen: lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i network retirned nothing... |
| 11:09.16 | wols | brian-99: "driver xorg-video-ati proprietary" does not exist. what driver do you actually use? |
| 11:09.45 | chenthu | babilen: sry was my mistake.spelt it wrong |
| 11:09.47 | wols | chenthu: run "lsmod":driver b43 or wl or neither? |
| 11:09.48 | brian-99 | please one moment ;) |
| 11:09.54 | krakrjak | voltagex: need a new kernel? not a sysctl tweakable? |
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| 11:10.25 | babilen | chenthu: Did you get any errors when you installed the wpasupplicant package? |
| 11:10.37 | voltagex | krakrjak: sysctl -a | grep sysrq shows nothing |
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| 11:11.49 | krakrjak | voltagex: what's /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq? |
| 11:12.03 | brian-99 | in the package manager I have activated all xserver-xorg-video-XXXX (ATI - MATCH- R128) and radeon tool |
| 11:12.30 | voltagex | krakrjak: 438, sysrq itself works but the crash command does not |
| 11:12.59 | krakrjak | voltagex: echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq that will enable all sysrqs including c |
| 11:13.25 | wols | brian-99: everyone, no matter what (other) driver he uses, has those packages. everyone. again: what driver are you using |
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| 11:14.15 | wols | brian-99: also check your Xorg.0.log to see what other frequencies you have available for oyur monitor. "read-edid" might help too |
| 11:14.49 | voltagex | krakrjak: argh, now I can't reproduce the crash. How do I definitively stop a driver loading at boot? Previously I was doing rmmod r8169 && modprobe r8168 |
| 11:15.01 | brian-99 | thanks! forgiveme, as I look I'm using that driver? |
| 11:15.04 | wols | !blacklist |
| 11:15.04 | dpkg | In lenny and later, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 11:15.20 | wols | brian-99: pastebin your Xorg.0.log |
| 11:15.50 | voltagex | wols: does it have to be blacklist.local.conf? because I created blacklist-netdev.conf |
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| 11:16.19 | wols | voltagex: doesn't matter what name at all. but: mind the initramfs too |
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| 11:16.48 | krakrjak | !blacklist-initramfs |
| 11:16.48 | dpkg | If your kernel uses an initramfs image (e.g. Debian stock kernel images), you need to run 'update-initramfs -u' in order to refresh its copy of blacklist table. Otherwise, early bootup won't follow your blacklist requests in e.g. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf |
| 11:16.51 | chenthu | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/124659/ |
| 11:16.59 | brian-99 | in / etc/X11 / I can not find the file Xorg.0.log |
| 11:17.00 | brian-99 | There was to look for? |
| 11:17.11 | wols | brian-99: cause it's a log file. /var/log |
| 11:17.27 | voltagex | wols: is there a way to check which drivers are in initramfs? |
| 11:17.46 | wols | voltagex: have you read the factoid? |
| 11:17.47 | chenthu | babilen: and no erros while installing wpasupplicant |
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| 11:18.09 | brian-99 | Oh, realy thanks! please moment.. i pastebin |
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| 11:18.16 | voltagex | ok |
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| 11:18.40 | optraz | anybody using pdns-recursor? is it possible to add an entry to the pdns-recursor for local server hsotname to local ip? |
| 11:18.50 | omid8bimo | anybody knows where can i download a pastebin package to set it up on my local server as local pastebin? |
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| 11:19.38 | brian-99 | http://paste.debian.net/124660/ |
| 11:21.49 | voltagex | wols: ok, initramfs is updated now too |
| 11:21.53 | chenthu | wols: lsmod brings in a huge data |
| 11:22.28 | wols | chenthu: you are using b43 |
| 11:22.37 | chenthu | babilen: i think so |
| 11:22.53 | wols | brian-99: it seems your monitor can't run above 60Hz according to the logs |
| 11:23.12 | wols | brian-99: what videocard do you have? |
| 11:23.37 | chenthu | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/124659/...what i got running the command |
| 11:24.14 | brian-99 | tengo ati hd 4250. en sistema operativo windows la uso a 85Hz! |
| 11:24.26 | brian-99 | I have ati hd 4250. the Windows operating system in use at 85Hz! |
| 11:24.58 | voltagex | krakrjak: you're not going to believe this, after blacklisting both realtek modules and loading r8168 manually, it works |
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| 11:26.04 | chenthu | wols: i think so |
| 11:26.18 | voltagex | wols, krakrjak: thanks |
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| 11:27.45 | wols | brian-99: then you need to write your own xorg.conf since your monitor doesn't tell X about its capabilities to run at 85Hz |
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| 11:27.57 | alpha-- | is there a way to migrate from gentoo to debian without full reinstall ? |
| 11:28.20 | wols | no |
| 11:28.38 | alpha-- | sucks. |
| 11:28.38 | voltagex | next challenge is setting up a cross-compile environment for another box |
| 11:28.50 | raz0 | why? they are very dissimilar |
| 11:29.00 | voltagex | alpha--: you could use gentoo to set up a new partition then debootstrap, but totally not supported |
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| 11:29.11 | brian-99 | I have to edit a file indicating Xorg running at 85Hz. I have to create a new file? |
| 11:29.19 | brian-99 | or edit existent ? |
| 11:29.24 | wols | voltagex: debootstrap is supported just fine. it's a (re)install after all |
| 11:29.28 | raz0 | probably new brian-99 |
| 11:29.30 | chenthu | wols: how to check if my wifi is connected? |
| 11:29.32 | alpha-- | problem is, don't have free disk space to backup all data and do clean install on new partition |
| 11:29.39 | wols | brian-99: create. xorg.conf doesn't exist |
| 11:29.44 | alpha-- | so need to manage somehow without wiping out the hdd |
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| 11:29.55 | voltagex | alpha--: difficult |
| 11:30.12 | wols | chenthu: I'd check the dmesg output for signs of loading the b43 driver and its firmware. but since I avoid broadcom I can't be more specific |
| 11:30.53 | Parsifal | alpha--: dpkg is in Gentoo's portage tree, so with a bit of ingenuity you might be able to manage it. It would be entirely unsupported, though. |
| 11:31.10 | alpha-- | that's... interesting |
| 11:31.14 | brian-99 | ok wols! THANKS! |
| 11:31.37 | brian-99 | for create i am read: Xorg-configure in text mode? |
| 11:31.43 | babilen | chenthu: What you could try is "modprobe -r b43-pci-bridge ; modprobe -r b43 ; modprobe b43 ; dmesg | tail -23" and check if it is complaining about missing firmware. |
| 11:31.45 | p0g0 | chenthu: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw |
| 11:32.07 | babilen | !tell brian-99 -about empty xorg.conf |
| 11:32.13 | babilen | !tell brian-99 -about xorg.conf.d |
| 11:32.30 | chenthu | babilen: will try now |
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| 11:33.08 | babilen | brian-99: I would recommend to create a device specific configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for your screen/graphic card -- Are xrandr/arandr/grandr/.. not working? |
| 11:34.15 | brian-99 | -- Are xrandr/arandr/grandr/.. not working? |
| 11:34.26 | babilen | !tell brian-99 about xrandr |
| 11:34.54 | babilen | brian-99: arandr/grandr/lxrandr are graphical interfaces that allow you to configure various aspects of you X |
| 11:35.08 | brian-99 | ah!! |
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| 11:35.41 | brian-99 | then entered the terminal and put xrandr? |
| 11:36.33 | wols | babilen: does that work even when X hasn't detected 85Hz as a working refresh rate? |
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| 11:37.07 | babilen | wols: No, hence my question if that is not working :) |
| 11:37.45 | chenthu | babilen: i get this http://paste.debian.net/124667/ |
| 11:37.47 | brian-99 | sorry, I do not understand English well, but you have good will thank you! |
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| 11:38.04 | brian-99 | sorry, I do not understand English well, but you have good will thank you! |
| 11:38.06 | chenthu | p0g0: reading that now |
| 11:38.14 | brian-99 | I thought it was simpler! |
| 11:38.35 | jeeger`` | Greetings ! I'm trying to set up a samba server with encrypted passwords, but I'm missing the smbpasswd binary. Is there any special program that I need to install? |
| 11:38.55 | chenthu | wols : what does this mean: after running dmesg| tail -23 http://paste.debian.net/124667/ |
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| 11:39.38 | Parsifal | jeeger``: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=bin/smbpasswd&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 11:40.13 | brian-99 | thanks WOLS ;) |
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| 11:40.29 | jeeger`` | Parsifal: Ah, thanks. |
| 11:40.42 | babilen | chenthu: What happens if you run "ifup wlan0" now? What about "modprobe -r ssb ; "modprobe -r b43-pci-bridge ; modprobe -r b43 ; modprobe b43 ; ifup wlan0" ? |
| 11:41.24 | frostschutz | Woet: it takes data from the clean drive and dumps it on the unclean one(s). members are marked unclean when mdadm kicks them out, or of they have an old timestamp I guess. see also mdadm --examine /dev/sdx1 for a raid member. If both drives think they're clean but they're not in sync anyway, you have a problem |
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| 11:42.38 | chenthu | babilen: modprobe -r b43-pci-bridge gives " FATAL: Module b43_pci_bridge not found |
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| 11:42.56 | babilen | chenthu: no problem, disregard that in the future |
| 11:43.36 | babilen | chenthu: So the first "ifup wlan0" did timeout with no DHCP offers again? You might also want to try to enclose the wpa-psk in "" in your /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 11:44.34 | krakrjak | voltagex: awesome! glad you got the realtek working. |
| 11:45.29 | chenthu | babilen: now when i run :ifup wlan0"... i get ifup: interface wlan0 already configured |
| 11:45.48 | babilen | chenthu: Run "ifdown wlan0 ; ifup wlan0" |
| 11:45.59 | chenthu | babilen: ok |
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| 11:46.54 | babilen | chenthu: And there were no complains about missing firmware in the dmesg output, right? |
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| 11:49.39 | chenthu | babilen: nope...it it said only abt b43-pci-bridge disabled...but when i run another command given by or wols i got this which said kernel driver in use is pci-bridge... http://paste.debian.net/124659/ http://paste.debian.net/124667/ |
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| 11:52.26 | JohnLenin | Hi, bit of a weird one... I installed Debian on this laptop for the first time last night, everything works great except for some reason the time jumps two and a half days ahead whenever the laptop resumes from suspend or boots up. NTPD doesn't do anything, however issuing an ntpdate command does. Any ideas? |
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| 11:52.55 | webad_13 | once again, I am searching but I no success in finding the right solution. All of my fonts look edgy, and I would like to smooth them out a bit. On versions of Mint(Debian) and Ubuntu I didn't have this problem. I'm on Debian unstable |
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| 11:54.45 | chenthu | babilen: i got the previous time i ran ifup wlan0 and again when i ran "ifdown wlan0 and then ifup wlan0" ..... http://paste.debian.net/124668/ |
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| 11:58.21 | babilen | chenthu: And "iwconfig wlan0" shows that you could associate with the AP? /me hates broadcom crap cards |
| 11:58.34 | p0g0 | chenthu: use iw or iwconfig (depending on which you have-you may have both, use both or either) to report the interface status, as "iw dev wlan0 link" or "iwconfig wlan0". If you have iwlist, report the results of "iwlist scan wlan0", if you have iw use "iw dev wlan0 scan". Also, please report the results of "ifconfig -a". Paste the results of those commands please. |
| 11:59.36 | babilen | p0g0: If I understand correctly, chenthu is typing those pastes. So better ask specific questions ;) |
| 11:59.42 | ronald | entering the world of ndiswrapper..can't seem to find proper native support for bcm4309 :'( |
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| 12:00.08 | wols | !tell ronald about bcm4309 |
| 12:00.27 | duga | is away: Jestem zajÄty |
| 12:00.30 | p0g0 | babilen: 'k, it'll be hard to hand key the results, tis true. |
| 12:00.38 | ronald | wols: kewl :) |
| 12:00.44 | nkuttler | hrm, is there a way to have post-down actions run when removing a hotplugged nic? |
| 12:00.46 | chenthu | babilen: yet says not associated |
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| 12:01.35 | p0g0 | chenthu: the scan tools should tell you if there are access points visible to the station. |
| 12:01.44 | jeeger | nkuttler: I use ifplugd, and that works. I don't know if it works without ifplugd. |
| 12:02.10 | nkuttler | jeeger: thanks, i'll have a look |
| 12:02.28 | p0g0 | chenthu: if no access points are reported, there's nothing to associate with. |
| 12:02.42 | wols | babilen: if iwlist scan works, then the firmware is loaded and the driver is wroking fine, right? |
| 12:02.56 | p0g0 | wols: yes |
| 12:03.01 | chenthu | p0g0: i dont have iw but i have iwconfig.... reult for iwconfig .... http://paste.debian.net/124669/ |
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| 12:04.57 | p0g0 | chenthu: odd results- you have not got the encryption going yet, and I'd have expected the mode to be either managed or access point, not both (you can do both, but that's likely not what you are trying to do). |
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| 12:05.55 | chenthu | p0g0: "iwlist wlan0 scan" syays i have two essid on " chenthu" ---this is my network , and "Tikona" ------ this is public wifi subscription |
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| 12:06.09 | ronald | wols: problem -> http://paste.debian.net/124670 .. :S |
| 12:06.13 | chenthu | p0g0: so what now? |
| 12:06.26 | p0g0 | chenthu: ok- your driver and card is up and working |
| 12:06.34 | chenthu | babilen: what now? |
| 12:06.55 | chenthu | babilen: read my pastebin? |
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| 12:07.33 | wols | ronald: broadcom itself is always one single, huge, intractable problem |
| 12:07.48 | chenthu | p0g0: yeah but it is not connecting? |
| 12:07.50 | ronald | so, buy pcmcia card? :P |
| 12:07.53 | krakrjak | chenthu: is the chenthu network or the Tikona network encrypted? |
| 12:08.29 | chenthu | krakrjak: chenthu is encrypted with "WPA2 PSK" |
| 12:08.45 | chenthu | p0g0: if itw woeking why isnt it connecting?.... |
| 12:09.27 | p0g0 | chenthu: it sounds like you have either messed up the crypto (the psk key or ESSID), or have created both an access point and a station interface (less likely- I say that because of the "managed access point" you reported in the paste).) |
| 12:10.40 | krakrjak | chenthu: ok so I need to catch up a litte on your /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 12:11.18 | p0g0 | chenthu: if you own the chenthu access point, you can try turning off the wpa2 for a bit and see if you can connect then. If so, you know it's a WPA2 problem. |
| 12:11.19 | chenthu | p0g0: no i havent... this is what i have in my /etc/network/interfaces file " http://paste.debian.net/124657/ " and this is what i get when i run ifup wlan0 "http://paste.debian.net/124668/ " |
| 12:11.57 | chenthu | p0g0: yeah i wown ok i will switch of wpa2 for now... |
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| 12:12.29 | chenthu | krakrjak: my inter face file has this http://paste.debian.net/124657/ |
| 12:12.41 | p0g0 | chenthu: also check the access point to be sure it is offering DHCP. |
| 12:12.54 | chenthu | krakrjak: interfaces* |
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| 12:13.18 | chenthu | p0g0: no idea how to do that...but i am able to connect to it using windows |
| 12:13.44 | p0g0 | chenthu: and the windows setup is auto, not static? |
| 12:14.29 | chenthu | p0g0: ok removed encryption i have to change my /etc/networ/interfaces file and remove the epa2 key right?... http://paste.debian.net/124657/ |
| 12:14.41 | p0g0 | chenthu: yes |
| 12:14.44 | chenthu | p0g0: yeah auto |
| 12:14.53 | chenthu | p0g0: ok will do now an dpost result |
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| 12:18.16 | chenthu | p0g0: Tried it i am again getting this ----> http://paste.debian.net/124668/ |
| 12:19.46 | p0g0 | chenthu: did you ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0? |
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| 12:20.53 | chenthu | p0g0: yeah i did " ifdown wlan0 and then ifup wlan0" |
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| 12:24.08 | p0g0 | chenthu: please paste the full results of "ifconfig wlan0; iwconfig wlan0; iwlist wlan0 scan" |
| 12:24.38 | krakrjak | chenthu: still researching on my end. Is NetworkManager installed by any chance? |
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| 12:25.24 | chenthu | krakrjak: thank you so much... no idea if its installed even the i cannot access my desktop remmebr |
| 12:25.30 | chenthu | p0g0: ok will post |
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| 12:29.47 | lamah | W: Duplicate sources.list entry |
| 12:29.48 | lamah | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 12:29.50 | lamah | what means that |
| 12:31.33 | lamah | who knows |
| 12:31.51 | chenthu | p0g0: results of ifconfig wlan0 --------> http://paste.debian.net/124671/ |
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| 12:32.46 | p0g0 | chenthu: ok, the interface exists, but has seen no traffic at all. |
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| 12:34.57 | micols | lamah: fix your /etc/apt/sources.list , it has duplicated line in it |
| 12:35.12 | chenthu | p0g0: results of iwconfif wlan0 -----------> http://paste.debian.net/124673/ |
| 12:35.13 | micols | then run apt-get update , to update db afterwards |
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| 12:35.30 | lamah | micols: i can't see nothing for duplicate |
| 12:35.41 | micols | just apt-get update then |
| 12:36.17 | micols | I don't really know fedora.. you only get the problem in debian usually with duplicate lines as it correctly says :) |
| 12:36.19 | lamah | micols: it shows that always |
| 12:36.29 | lamah | micols: only on apt-get update |
| 12:36.34 | p0g0 | chenthu: the iwconfig paste shows no ESSID-that's wrong. |
| 12:36.54 | chenthu | p0g0: i dont know why cause before when i ran iwconfig wlan0 it reulted and in essid it said :chenthu:...but now nothing |
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| 12:39.05 | webad_13 | for the third time (and then I'll stop for a day :) ) is there anyone who could help me out with font smoothness in debian - it looks like anti-aliasing is off. I tried creating .font.conf as suggested by some people but that didnt help, I also tried creating /etc/fonts/local.conf but nothing changed. Please any suggestion is appreciated |
| 12:39.07 | p0g0 | chenthu: the Not-associated indicates the interface never made it through the ESSID/PSK handshakes. I need to look up why it's reporting "Managed Access Point". You want a station interface setup (managed), not an Access Point. |
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| 12:42.30 | chenthu | p0g0: may by i will add "wpa2-psk <password>" line in place of "wpa-psk <password>" in the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 12:43.25 | p0g0 | chenthu: I don't think that is your problem, and if you have turned off wpa on the Access Point, it's the wrong thing to do. |
| 12:44.12 | chenthu | p0g0: i gturned it on just now, cause of the essid issue..ok i will turn of...but what abt the interface file? |
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| 12:45.24 | chenthu | p0g0: or can i add it like how krakrjak said ----------> http://paste.debian.net/124653 |
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| 12:49.12 | krakrjak | chenthu: then run wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -C /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 12:50.04 | voltagex | anyone used crosstool-ng to build a crosscompiler on debian? I'm looking for the right flags to use |
| 12:50.14 | p0g0 | krakrjak: not yet, he's turned off wpa and the wpa supplicant call is automatic from the /etc/network/interfaces settings. |
| 12:50.45 | chenthu | krakrjak: ok |
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| 12:51.31 | p0g0 | chenthu: if you want a decent discussion of how it works: http://manual.aptosid.com/en/inet-wpa-en.htm#wpa-basic |
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| 12:54.17 | nsadmin | , pciid 1002:9712 |
| 12:54.19 | judd | [1002:9712] is 'M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'radeon' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:9712 http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and the out-of-tree 'fglrx', 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 12:55.38 | wols | nsadmin: judd's pciid command is not erally useless but spouts a lot of crap |
| 12:55.46 | wols | e.g. snd-hda-intel is definitel ynot out of tree |
| 12:56.14 | nsadmin | right, which I'm having a separate problem with... |
| 12:56.37 | chenthu | p0g0: thank you...its really good to read ... :) |
| 12:57.05 | nsadmin | all the kernels I've tried (incl in ubuntu) make my sata controller's read IRQ shut down because "nobody cared" |
| 12:58.05 | nsadmin | well this doesn't happen until I modprobe snd-hda-intel |
| 12:59.15 | p0g0 | chenthu: ok, I am not sure what is going on- the "managed access point" is throwing me. If you have no crypto on the access point, you must not declare any psk stuff in the interfaces file. You can try the instructions in section 4 of the page I showed you "troubleshooting", and use the wpa_cli -i wlan0 tool, but you need to understand the 4-way handshake protocol to follow the results. |
| 12:59.18 | chenthu | krakrjak: would always take long to give results after u run the command? |
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| 12:59.32 | wols | nsadmin: switch around PCI IRQs then |
| 12:59.44 | chenthu | p0g0: ok i am reading |
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| 12:59.54 | chenthu | p0g0: will get back if i have any doubt |
| 13:00.09 | th0r | chenthu: did you turn off wpa? |
| 13:00.12 | chenthu | p0g0: thank you very much for the time u have spent on this.... |
| 13:00.45 | nsadmin | where would I do that? |
| 13:00.51 | p0g0 | chenthu: yw. |
| 13:00.58 | nsadmin | in the bios? |
| 13:01.10 | chenthu | th0r: hey how r u?.... yeah cause i wasnt able to to connect to it though it showed the ap previously |
| 13:01.43 | p0g0 | chenthu: leave crypto off until you get the association and network working, then turn it back on. |
| 13:01.55 | chenthu | p0g0: ok i have turned it off |
| 13:02.06 | th0r | chenthu: right. I never have successfully gotten wpa to work with linux. Here is an interfaces file without wpa....http://pastebin.com/BmeMTMXN |
| 13:02.17 | p0g0 | chenthu: turnbed off on both the station and the AP. |
| 13:02.21 | p0g0 | *turned |
| 13:02.35 | th0r | chenthu: just use nano to change the essid in the last line. |
| 13:03.12 | th0r | chenthu: once you have that file edited and in /etc/network, you should be able to get online with 'ifup wlan0' |
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| 13:03.48 | th0r | chenthu: and I just got up so I have to walk the dog....will be back in a bit. Good luck |
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| 13:04.56 | chenthu | th0r: i have already edited the interfaces file ...my current cuntest of the interface file are ---------> http://paste.debian.net/124675/ |
| 13:05.22 | chenthu | th0r : ok |
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| 13:11.33 | th0r | chenthu: that is a bit different, but I think it will work. open a terminal, log in as root, and enter the command 'tail -f /var/log/messages'. Then in a second terminal, also as root, enter the commands 'ifdown wlan0' and then 'ifup wlan0'. Watch the messages file and pastebin the output. be back in a few minutes. |
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| 13:13.45 | nsadmin | wols, can you, or *, can anyone, tell if fglrx (which is said to be for r6xx and r7xx cards) would work on mine? |
| 13:13.51 | xreal | How can I find out, if my system is swapping at the moment aka uses the swap file? |
| 13:14.08 | p0g0 | chenthu: the one bug I think that you have in the interfaces file, when you have the psk/crypto going, is that you need to use wpa-ssid not ssid to declare the wpa encrypted essid. |
| 13:14.17 | zapadlo | lxreal free |
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| 13:15.06 | th0r | chenthu: just remembered I have an errand to run so will be gone a while. Maybe wols can help you, he is an expert at getting wpa to work |
| 13:16.51 | nsadmin | (and while I want to crosspost this to #ubuntu, I'm actually asking for both, because I run both) |
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| 13:21.27 | wols | nsadmin: it will work |
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| 13:23.09 | p0g0 | chenthu: if you want to prove the wpa_supplicant configuration, use wpa_passphrase (see man page for usage) to generate the passkey for your essid- it will also construct the wpa_supplicant.conf stanza that you can paste int the conf file directly. You can use the passkey in place of the passphrase in the interfaces file as well. Look again at the page I showed you for the correct "wpa-" prefixes required when you run with crypto enabled. lastly, I wond |
| 13:23.09 | p0g0 | er if wpa_supplicant is really down or not- you might try pgrep to see if it is still active. It should not be if you are not using crypto. |
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| 13:24.12 | p0g0 | chenthu: gl, I gotta go. |
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| 13:26.59 | chenthu | p0g0: thank you very much for the help......see ya...bye |
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| 13:33.28 | krakrjak | chenthu: when I run wpa_supplicant on kbsd it connects with only a couple of lines of output. Should associate quickly. In another terminal then I run dhclient wlan0 to get an IP. |
| 13:34.59 | chenthu | krakrjak: i think installing too many drivers have messed up...so i am planning to reinstall everything from scratch and install the last working wlan drivers....that wasy i would be knowing what i am doing....moreover what is kbsd? |
| 13:36.00 | krakrjak | chenthu: port of Debian to the FreeBSD kernel. Available in squeeze. That's what I'm using now on wireless with an ath5k wireless card. |
| 13:36.31 | krakrjak | chenthu: seems like a sensible plan. get it going fresh. |
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| 13:37.12 | chenthu | krakrjak: whats the difference between the free bsd kernel and linux kernel? |
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| 13:38.17 | drgr33n | Hey guys !! I've got a problem with plymouth & debian. Everything works fine untill I go to reboot. Then I just get a blinking white cursor and my system hangs ? |
| 13:38.49 | drgr33n | I've read adding acpi=force fixes this but it didn't my end ? If I boot without splash it works as expected ? |
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| 13:40.14 | duga | chenthu: wikipedia && google: bsd linux kernel |
| 13:40.46 | chenthu | duga: thank you for the reminder....think working around with troubleshooting has messed up mind lol |
| 13:41.14 | babilen | chenthu: I would also recommend to actually use the CD1 and install the desktop environment as this will allow you to use tools you might be more comfortable with. Furthermore: Is there no way to set the network to not use any encryption for now and/or connect to ethernet? |
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| 13:42.04 | anatoly | Hello everybody! |
| 13:42.34 | anatoly | How can I rebuild make file from makefile.am in debian way? |
| 13:43.41 | duga | anatoly: ??? maybe automake. Rebuild from what? What is the program? |
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| 13:44.42 | chenthu | babilen: I always install the desktop environment...the problem is i cant get in to a login screen after installation cause the screen is discoloured and scrambled and i have switched of the encryption but still not working...so decided to go for a fresh install |
| 13:45.11 | babilen | chenthu: You have turned off the encryption already? |
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| 13:45.25 | anatoly | duga: I'm rebuilding libgtk package with patch which modifies makefile.am file, so I need to update makefile |
| 13:45.28 | chenthu | babilen krakrjak : how to know the size of the file using ls command or any other command |
| 13:45.42 | chenthu | babilen: yeah i have already |
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| 13:46.50 | babilen | chenthu: Which file? Please check one more thing for me: Which letters does "dpkg -l network-manager-gnome|tail -1" start with? Do you see any lines that start with "ii" when you run 'dpkg -l "network-manager*"' ? |
| 13:48.35 | chenthu | babilien it says " No packages found matching network-manager-gnome" |
| 13:49.03 | babilen | chenthu: After having done that, you might want to: "ifdown wlan0 ; iwconfig wlan0 essid Chenthu ; ifconfig wlan0 up ; dhclient wlan0" do you get an IP? Are you associated when you run "iwconfig wlan0" ? |
| 13:49.29 | chenthu | babilen: nope not assosiated as of now |
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| 13:49.54 | babilen | chenthu: Oh, and just for the fun run "killall wpa_supplicant" before that :) |
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| 13:50.40 | babilen | You can also check if you are associated after you run "ifconfig wlan0 up" and before the dhclient call |
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| 13:52.11 | chenthu | babilen : ok wil try now |
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| 13:53.18 | chenthu | babilen : the the kill all command produced a " no process found " result |
| 13:53.28 | babilen | ok, no problem |
| 13:54.34 | khaije|minder | i'm interested in learning more about packaging with/for debian. Are there any how-to or introductory videos I could review? |
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| 13:55.49 | chenthu | babilen: and the dpkg-l "network-manager*" prodeces a statuus = not installed and err = reinstall required |
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| 13:55.56 | khaije|minder | hmm, i think i found something i can get started with... nevermind but thanks |
| 13:55.59 | babilen | khaije|minder: The seminal document to read is the new maintainers guide (/msg dpkg nmg), the Debian policy, developer reference and dfsg |
| 13:56.43 | khaije|minder | babilen: yup i have that bookmarked but i was hoping for an overview to help me structure all the info :) |
| 13:56.45 | babilen | khaije|minder: There are also some nice slides by lucas ... http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=676 |
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| 13:57.10 | babilen | khaije|minder: Please note that most support for new maintainers happens in #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org / irc.oftc.net |
| 13:57.52 | khaije|minder | babilen: i'll check that out, cheers |
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| 13:58.54 | babilen | khaije|minder: There have also been some debconf talks that might be of interest to you. I found the debhelper talk of the last debconf to be helpful and this debconf had http://penta.debconf.org/dc11_schedule/events/836.en.html |
| 13:59.21 | babilen | *sigh* /me heads over to #debian-mentors to catch khaijelminder there |
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| 14:01.12 | flo` | hi |
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| 14:01.52 | flo` | i've debian running in a chroot inside my internet router. now i've the problem that i cannot access the debian servers via apt-get because it tries and fails to use IP6 |
| 14:02.01 | flo` | how can i make it use IP4? |
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| 14:03.32 | wols | !tell flo` about noipv6 |
| 14:04.12 | flo` | i cannot use any kernel command lines or sysctl settings, as i'm in a chroot |
| 14:04.19 | flo` | it's not lenny's kernel which is running |
| 14:04.54 | wols | apt is perfectly ipv6 aware. so what is exactly your problem? |
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| 14:06.39 | flo` | wols, that my router offers IP6 adresses, but cannot connect to them |
| 14:06.51 | babilen | chenthu: hmm? |
| 14:06.52 | flo` | "the router" is the device lenny is running inside a chroot |
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| 14:14.15 | chenthu | babilen: sry some one was at the door... |
| 14:14.26 | chenthu | babilen: tell me |
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| 14:16.16 | chenthu | babilen: ok brb...have to go out for a min or 2 will be back soon |
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| 14:19.18 | rajkosto | how do i install a desktop environment ? |
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| 14:19.38 | DexterF | hi |
| 14:19.39 | wols | rajkosto: which one? |
| 14:19.44 | rajkosto | gnome |
| 14:19.51 | wols | !tell rajkosto about install gnome |
| 14:21.27 | DexterF | I need to move a debian server from 32 to 64 bit unless someone knows how to access 8gig with an exisitng 32bit install. I'd like to keep the migration simple, the idea is: clone the installation, run a live system, make a list of all installed packages and reinstall them with 64bit deb sources |
| 14:21.32 | DexterF | would that work? |
| 14:22.00 | wols | !bigmem |
| 14:22.00 | dpkg | For i386, -bigmem linux-images support up to 64 GB of RAM on squeeze and lenny systems supporting <PAE>. If you have more than about 3.4 GB of RAM, install and use this to see everything past the sub ~3.4 GB limit (but with additional CPU overhead). Alternatively, if you have a <x86-64> processor, use an -amd64 linux-image instead. See also <686-pae>. |
| 14:23.04 | wols | DexterF: as long as each proces doesn't need more than 3GB of RAM the bigmem kernel can be used. or you could simply install an amd64 kernel, that works too |
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| 14:23.17 | rajkosto | how can i access gnome etc, i can access the console via ssh |
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| 14:24.24 | berarma | rajkosto: gnome is a desktop environment, you can't use it from the console |
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| 14:24.33 | rajkosto | how do i remote use it |
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| 14:25.22 | DexterF | wols: well, a kernel alone won't do, I'd still need to replace all packages. |
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| 14:25.50 | wols | DexterF: why do you need a 64bit userland? |
| 14:26.21 | DexterF | wols: machine has 8GB, file server with xfs which uses a lot of RAM if it can plus there will be 2 VMs running each at 1GB ram |
| 14:26.54 | DexterF | with that "additional cpu overhead" remark I tend to go for the 64 migration |
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| 14:29.12 | DexterF | then again I will just try bigmem and if there's any problem with that I can still roll up my sleaves and migrate |
| 14:29.17 | DexterF | so thanks for the hint |
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| 14:34.44 | markit | hi, I want to avoid a (broken) package to be installed during aptitude full-upgrade. With "apt-cache depends dnet-common" I've found the package depend on it and put on hold, but still the package is in the "new" list of the ones that are going to be installed... any clue? |
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| 14:35.43 | wols | why not "hold" the package you don't want to upgrade itself? |
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| 14:37.04 | babilen | markit: Is the package not reported by apt-listbugs? And yeah, hold all packages you don't want to install. |
| 14:37.11 | markit | wols: what do you mean? I've put on hold dnet-common too |
| 14:37.31 | markit | babilen: the package is rep9orted by listbugs as broken, that is why I want to skip |
| 14:37.47 | markit | but since is new, can't hold it, have to hold the ones that depend on it |
| 14:37.48 | babilen | markit: You can easily hold them from within apt-listbugs if you enter "p" |
| 14:38.25 | babilen | Which package are we talking about here? Are you aware of the #debian-next channel on irc.oftc.net? (support for wheezy/sid) |
| 14:38.28 | markit | never used apt-listbugs directly... it asks for some arguments |
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| 14:39.11 | markit | babilen: oh, I read it on the topic, sorry... btw, I'm always in freenode, should add oftc too on the server list I guess |
| 14:39.23 | markit | (correct, I'm running sid) |
| 14:39.53 | markit | in any case, is a general question... why I can't avoid that package to be installed as dependency |
| 14:40.05 | markit | dnet-common{a} |
| 14:40.22 | wols | ,info dnet-common |
| 14:40.23 | markit | (btw, what does it mean {a}?) |
| 14:40.24 | judd | Package dnet-common (net, extra) in squeeze/i386: Base package for Linux DECnet. Version: 2.52; Size: 38.4k; Installed: 180k |
| 14:40.39 | wols | wtf still needs decnet? |
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| 14:42.22 | markit | :) |
| 14:43.46 | themill | markit: "marked as being automatically installed" (to satisfy the dependency of something you have actually asked for) |
| 14:45.12 | markit | themill: thanks a lot |
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| 14:52.38 | sevenfourk | hello guys! Is that possible to build nvidia module with the 2.6.39-2-686-pae kernel and old video card GeForce4 MX 440? Building with the off. installer from NVIDIA, got stuck and think off impossibleness of this procedure :-) |
| 14:53.58 | wols | it's possible |
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| 14:54.25 | wols | sevenfourk: do you have the headers for your kernel installed? |
| 14:55.57 | wols | sevenfourk: you will need the nvidia 96xx legacy drivers btw |
| 14:56.01 | sevenfourk | wols: yeah, gonna throw some messages of nvidia-installer on pastebin |
| 14:56.49 | sevenfourk | http://pastebin.com/ukjNa2cn |
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| 14:57.48 | wols | sevenfourk: what command did you run to get this output? |
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| 14:58.39 | sevenfourk | wols: its the /var/log/nvidia-installer.log, sh NVIDIA* |
| 14:58.53 | wols | that's not what I asked. |
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| 14:59.20 | wols | ah, sh NVIDIA*. we do not support the nvidia.run installers here at all |
| 15:00.06 | sevenfourk | Am, I used Debian time ago, and used to install my nvidia driver this way |
| 15:00.16 | sevenfourk | wols: I lessed nvidia-installer.log |
| 15:00.43 | wols | sevenfourk: this way was never supported. use the debian repo to install nvidia drivers |
| 15:00.45 | eevar | who do I bitch at when wheezys cabal-install package is broken? and where? |
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| 15:01.08 | wols | eevar: you bitch at yourself for being stupid |
| 15:01.09 | erus` | is there a ghc7 package anywhere? |
| 15:01.52 | eevar | wols: how is that? |
| 15:02.13 | sevenfourk | funny, cuz that worked some years ago.. :/ |
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| 15:02.21 | valdyn | judd: versions ghc6 |
| 15:02.22 | judd | Package ghc6 on i386 -- lenny: 6.8.2dfsg1-1.1; squeeze: 6.12.1-13; wheezy: 7.0.3-2; sid: 7.0.4-4 |
| 15:02.28 | valdyn | erus`: ^^ |
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| 15:03.41 | erus` | what? |
| 15:03.52 | valdyn | erus`: read what judd said |
| 15:03.56 | erus` | ghc 6 |
| 15:04.13 | wols | erus`: read the version numbers more carefully |
| 15:04.16 | valdyn | erus`: the whole line |
| 15:04.23 | erus` | oh |
| 15:04.26 | sevenfourk | wols: what do you think about rolling back to stable and fetch older kernel and the same nvidia kernel, the thing is in testing and unstable there's no same nvidia-kernel I got installed, specified abobe |
| 15:04.27 | erus` | super thanks :) |
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| 15:04.49 | eevar | erus`: imho you're best off just installing gch7 from source |
| 15:04.50 | wols | sevenfourk: are you running testing? |
| 15:05.14 | erus` | why? |
| 15:05.17 | eevar | of course, you'll need a working ghc version for that |
| 15:05.20 | wols | sevenfourk: I think you should reinstall stable and stick with that since you obviously aren't capable of running debian testing |
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| 15:05.33 | valdyn | eevar: whats wrong with the debian package? |
| 15:05.40 | sevenfourk | wols: some packages are testing, some unstabble, I do not update too often |
| 15:05.46 | wols | sevenfourk: why would you need a nvidia-kernel* package? |
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| 15:06.10 | eevar | I've had nothing but library conflicts using it. and the arch package |
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| 15:06.24 | sevenfourk | wols: its the binary module I should not build AGAIN |
| 15:06.26 | wols | ,versions nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-dkms |
| 15:06.28 | judd | Package nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 96.43.18-2; sid/non-free: 96.43.19-3 |
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| 15:06.58 | sevenfourk | I got it |
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| 15:07.10 | quebra | hi |
| 15:07.18 | quebra | each time i restart my debian |
| 15:07.24 | quebra | i have exactly +2 hours clock |
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| 15:07.35 | quebra | and i need to use ntpdate to correct it |
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| 15:07.54 | wols | quebra: grep UTC /etc/default/* |
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| 15:08.12 | quebra | /etc/default/rcS:UTC=no |
| 15:08.16 | wols | quebra: and in which timezone are you? |
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| 15:08.26 | quebra | cat /etc/timezone |
| 15:08.26 | quebra | Europe/Warsaw |
| 15:08.41 | wols | quebra: hwclock --show |
| 15:08.58 | berarma | quebra: how do you correct it? |
| 15:09.11 | quebra | wols: hwclock --show |
| 15:09.11 | quebra | Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method. |
| 15:09.11 | quebra | Use the --debug option to see the details of our search for an access method. |
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| 15:09.29 | wols | quebra: so what is your BIOS clock set to right now? |
| 15:09.35 | quebra | umm |
| 15:09.40 | quebra | i need to restart to check it out.. |
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| 15:09.46 | quebra | one moment.. |
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| 15:11.40 | quebra | it's set correctly.. |
| 15:11.47 | quebra | 17:11 |
| 15:11.51 | quebra | but now again i have 19:11 |
| 15:11.52 | quebra | :P |
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| 15:13.35 | wols | quebra: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and choose the proper timezone? |
| 15:13.44 | wols | strange :( |
| 15:13.51 | quebra | i already did that, set it to Europe/Warsaw |
| 15:13.57 | quebra | is it possible that it might be kernel releated ? |
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| 15:14.02 | quebra | i recently recompiled my kernel |
| 15:14.04 | rajkosto | anyoe know what my xconfig should be to start gnome in squeeze ? |
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| 15:15.34 | wols | rajkosto: you have xorg installed and then installed gnome? and gnome doesn't start by default? |
| 15:15.40 | zykotick9 | rajkosto, "exec gnome-session" i believe, it's been a while since i used .xinitrc though |
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| 15:16.08 | wols | zykotick9: see /etc/alternatives/x-windowmanager |
| 15:16.22 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.44 | rajkosto | wols, yes i installd all |
| 15:16.55 | rajkosto | im talking about ~/.vnc/xconfig |
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| 15:18.54 | berarma | quebra: I remember an option somewhere to select wheter BIOS time should be UTC or local time |
| 15:19.06 | berarma | quebra: have you ntp installed? |
| 15:19.21 | babilen | quebra: Do you dual-boot with windows? If not, I would actually just set the hwclock to UTC and adjust /etc/default/rcS accordingly |
| 15:19.27 | zykotick9 | wols, I don't get it. x-window-manager appears to be a quasi-binary file? (for "me" this is information only) |
| 15:19.59 | wols | !tell zykotick9 about alternatives |
| 15:20.33 | zykotick9 | wols, :) oh ya, I'm familiar with the update alternatives option, thanks. |
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| 15:20.41 | babilen | quebra: That is probably not the solution to your problem and it would still be interesting to find out what causes these shifts. Also make sure that you have ntp installed in order to synchronise automagically (won't work for large offsets) |
| 15:23.02 | quebra | berarma: i have ntp |
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| 15:23.09 | quebra | babilen: i do dualbot, windows7 and debian |
| 15:23.38 | quebra | i guess 7200sec is large offset |
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| 15:24.09 | babilen | quebra: Ok, then you should leave the time settings as they are not, because windows expects the system clock to be set to local time. (not sure if that is still the case) |
| 15:24.37 | quebra | so my debian is set to local time as well i guess ? |
| 15:24.55 | quebra | with /etc/default/rcS:UTC=no |
| 15:24.56 | babilen | quebra: So, you timezone is set correctly? (dpkg-reconfigure tzdata) You have UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS and the system clock is set to local time? |
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| 15:25.22 | quebra | yes, timezone is correct, but how do i check if the system clock is set to local time ? |
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| 15:26.51 | quebra | hwclock --debug |
| 15:26.57 | quebra | hwclock: Open of /dev/rtc failed, errno=2: No such file or directory. |
| 15:27.10 | babilen | quebra: You've just checked the in the BIOS didn't you? You can also take a look at the output of "hwclock" but that failed earlier didn't it? |
| 15:27.19 | quebra | yep |
| 15:27.24 | quebra | im missing /dev/rtc |
| 15:27.57 | babilen | quebra: Are you using a Debian kernel? |
| 15:28.12 | wols | quebra: are you inside a VM or VPS? |
| 15:28.39 | quebra | babilen: no, i compiled kernel 3.0 on my own ;) |
| 15:28.46 | quebra | wols: no, real system |
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| 15:29.15 | quebra | ah |
| 15:29.20 | rajkosto | how do i enable gnome on a username ? |
| 15:29.24 | rajkosto | i keep getting authentication failure |
| 15:29.30 | rajkosto | from gdm |
| 15:30.03 | quebra | so if i have /dev/rtc it will work ? |
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| 15:30.56 | babilen | quebra: I guess that you are missing CONFIG_RTC_DRV_CMOS=y -- You should take more care when you compile a kernel. (Or use Debian's kernel - or at least its configuration) -- http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html |
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| 15:31.49 | quebra | # CONFIG_RTC is not set |
| 15:31.49 | quebra | # CONFIG_RTC_CLASS is not set |
| 15:31.53 | quebra | i think you are right.. |
| 15:31.59 | quebra | i'll recompile |
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| 15:32.50 | babilen | quebra: Please take a look at the kernel handbook and in particular the pkg-deb make target |
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| 15:42.20 | dyingprism | i'm having issues with ssh server & web server right now, port 80 and 22 are being forwarded to the proper internal ip address, triple checked to be sure sshd and apache are running, checked ports in config file, but no outside connections are being made |
| 15:42.25 | dyingprism | would anyone be willing to try for me? |
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| 15:45.37 | dyingprism | my router is kind of odd, it asks for the computer name, but shows a table of active sessions' computer names... mine doesn't show one, could that possibly be a problem? it knows the right IP address though... |
| 15:48.08 | kie27 | hiya all, am struggling to get an epson v330 scanner working under debian wheezy, have downloaded avasys .deb packages, but nothing is found when i run sane-find-scanner. any ideas? |
| 15:48.24 | wols | dyingprism: how does your router ask for a computer name? |
| 15:48.33 | wols | dyingprism: and how is this a debian problem? |
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| 15:49.09 | dyingprism | wols: sorry, uhm it isn't |
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| 15:49.36 | sta19 | dyingprism: if you can afford the down time I'd try a hard reset on the router...... sometimes they get confused, you know... |
| 15:50.01 | dyingprism | sta19: alright i'll try that, only been doing soft reset previously |
| 15:50.04 | dyingprism | thanks guys bbiawhile |
| 15:50.20 | sta19 | worth a shot... good luck |
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| 16:02.09 | panosru | Hello, I have a problem with Mysql service, it won't start on boot but it will if I run /etc/init.d/mysql start :/ Any suggestion is much appreciated! Thanks a lot ! |
| 16:02.51 | th0r | panosru: there is a program called bum that is a gui for controlling startup packages. It might be worth installing as a starting point. |
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| 16:03.07 | panosru | th0r: I'm through ssh :) |
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| 16:03.31 | mah454 | Hello ... |
| 16:03.41 | panosru | I will try to run update-rc.d to change its startup position |
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| 16:03.48 | th0r | panosru: you might try 'service mysql start'. I think that is a call that survives reboot |
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| 16:04.43 | panosru | th0r: service mysql start will start mysql as /etc/init.d/mysql start will do too the issue is that it won't start on boot |
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| 16:05.27 | th0r | panosru: I thought the init.d call was a one off....not setting it up to start automatically. But I admit it has been years since I tinkered with mysql, and they didn't use service calls at the time |
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| 16:08.16 | mah454 | I use this command for make filesystem in /dev/ram : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ram1 bs=6M count=1 ; mkfs.ext4 /dev/ram1 |
| 16:08.26 | mah454 | but grub-install do not work ... ! |
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| 16:11.53 | wols | mah454: why would you install grub there? |
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| 16:13.58 | mah454 | for testing new distro ... without install on HDD . sample LFS Project ... |
| 16:14.33 | th0r | mah454: why not install it in virtualbox? |
| 16:14.52 | panosru | it seems that mysql broke when I removed dovecote :/ |
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| 16:16.09 | mah454 | VirtualBox ? How ? |
| 16:16.19 | mah454 | th0r VirtualBox ? How ? |
| 16:16.33 | wols | !virtualbox |
| 16:16.33 | dpkg | Oracle VM VirtualBox is a virtual machine solution. To install, ask me about <vbox-install squeeze> or <vbox-install lenny>. http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ http://www.virtualbox.org/ #vbox on irc.freenode.net. See also <vbox manual>, <vbox guest-utils>, <vbox-ose vs vbox>, <vbox migrate win>, <vdi>, <virtualization>. |
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| 16:16.43 | kie27 | hiya all, am struggling to get an epson v330 scanner working under debian wheezy, have downloaded avasys .deb packages, but nothing is found when i run sane-find-scanner. any ideas? |
| 16:16.45 | th0r | mah454: define a linux vm. Give it a hard drive of maybe 500M...you aren;t going to use it anyway. Then point the vm cd to the lfs iso and boot it up |
| 16:16.59 | th0r | mah454: that is how I tested lfs....only took two minutes |
| 16:17.40 | mah454 | th0r no . I building new distro ... |
| 16:18.36 | th0r | mah454: if you are trying to build a new distro then lfs is probably not a very good starting point. It was tinkered to be super-secure. No telling what mods the govt put it in |
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| 16:19.37 | mah454 | th0r What is your Idea ? |
| 16:19.50 | th0r | mah454: just checked...wrong lfs <smile>. I had it confused with a distro the US govt is putting out...sorry |
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| 16:25.59 | m1k3 | hi i've installed debian with grafical installer, and at the end of the installation it asked me if i wanna install x server i choose yes, but after the reboot i dont have any x running can you show me a guide on this? |
| 16:26.54 | valdyn | m1k3: run "startx" and let us know what you get |
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| 16:29.59 | m1k3 | valdyn: blank black screen on tty7 |
| 16:30.24 | valdyn | m1k3: and text output wherever you ran startx |
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| 16:31.46 | m1k3 | valdyn: you're asking for the textoutput from startx user? |
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| 16:32.13 | wols | m1k3: no, he asks what happens when you run startx. what GUI comes up? |
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| 16:32.32 | m1k3 | ah, nothing. blank black screen with no mouse even |
| 16:32.41 | valdyn | m1k3: im assuming that startx is failing to start the X server, what we need to see is the error message |
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| 16:32.46 | wols | ctrl+alt+f1 works |
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| 16:35.23 | m1k3 | x.org x server 1.7.7 couple of info lines. |
| 16:35.40 | kie27 | hiya all, am struggling to get an epson v330 scanner working under debian wheezy, have downloaded avasys .deb packages, but nothing is found when i run sane-find-scanner, BUT it does appear is /var/log/messages and dmesg. any ideas? |
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| 16:35.45 | m1k3 | selinux: disabled on systemnot enabling in xserver |
| 16:36.24 | m1k3 | erros from xkbcomp are not fatal to the xserver |
| 16:36.28 | m1k3 | basicly these |
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| 16:37.27 | valdyn | m1k3: no, not "basically these", the error is what we need |
| 16:37.35 | Guest61312 | hi i'm trying to insall skype on deb6 squeeze but it misses libqt4-network i've installed libqtcore4 & gui but that's still missing |
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| 16:39.11 | mjt | ,versions libqt4-network |
| 16:39.12 | judd | Package libqt4-network on i386 -- lenny: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; lenny-security: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; squeeze: 4:4.6.3-4+squeeze1; sid: 4:4.7.3-5; wheezy: 4:4.7.3-5 |
| 16:39.20 | m1k3 | valdyn: ye but theres only 2 error as i can see 1. the xkeyboard keymap complier (xkbcomp) reports: type ONE LEVEL has 1 levels, but RALT has 2 symbols ignoring extra symbols |
| 16:39.36 | valdyn | m1k3: thats not a single error |
| 16:39.43 | m1k3 | valdyn: 2. razer lycosa: failed to initialize for relative axes |
| 16:39.58 | valdyn | m1k3: you can put the whole log up on a paste site |
| 16:40.11 | valdyn | m1k3: but we cannot use your random quotes |
| 16:40.42 | m1k3 | ye okey ill try, its a bit tricky without mouse or grafical browser sec |
| 16:40.52 | valdyn | !pastewithoutx |
| 16:40.52 | dpkg | Install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://paste.debian.net; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://paste.debian.net/ ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste, or ask me about <paste2pastebin pipe> |
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| 16:46.14 | MakedonceMarko | halo be :) |
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| 16:47.58 | MakedonceMarko | hello everybody |
| 16:48.08 | MakedonceMarko | imali kojata :) |
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| 16:52.36 | MakedonceMarko | bb |
| 16:52.37 | MakedonceMarko | bb |
| 16:52.38 | MakedonceMarko | bbž |
| 16:54.31 | m1k3 | valdyn: http://94.247.88.132/~ziszisz/Xorg.0.log |
| 16:55.13 | MakedonceMarko | halooo |
| 16:55.48 | MakedonceMarko | coveci ::))) |
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| 16:58.45 | babilen | MakedonceMarko: Do you need help? Do you have a Debian related question? |
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| 17:00.48 | panosru | why the f* mysql throws me errors when I try to install it? :S check here : http://pastebin.com/23xHtQJv |
| 17:01.37 | wols | panosru: check your (mysql) logs while it failed to start up |
| 17:02.17 | valdyn | m1k3: looks like X is ok |
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| 17:02.46 | MakedonceMarko | i dont need help |
| 17:02.50 | valdyn | m1k3: which desktop environment do you want? |
| 17:03.03 | MakedonceMarko | i just came its boring nobody talk |
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| 17:03.08 | MakedonceMarko | before |
| 17:03.10 | wols | !ot |
| 17:03.11 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 17:03.12 | MakedonceMarko | :) |
| 17:03.14 | panosru | wols: /var/log/mysql.log and /var/log/mysql.err are empty |
| 17:03.19 | wols | MakedonceMarko: this is NOT a social channel |
| 17:03.30 | MakedonceMarko | w??? |
| 17:03.33 | MakedonceMarko | whaat |
| 17:03.37 | MakedonceMarko | chat is |
| 17:03.41 | MakedonceMarko | than |
| 17:03.48 | jigg | hello guys! Im having some difficulties with gnome using laptop+monitor: after setting a different resolution on my monitor [1280x1024 vs 1920x1080] I end up with a desktop where my icons/panels arent proportionally aligned + a 'wallpaper on wallpaper' effect |
| 17:03.50 | m1k3 | valdyn: oh nice. as i know kde and gnome are good? kde maybe |
| 17:03.57 | jigg | someone pls have a look http://minus.com/mbe2Xw3 |
| 17:03.57 | MakedonceMarko | :) |
| 17:04.02 | valdyn | !install kde |
| 17:04.02 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, the 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > KDE > Install". See also <KDE>. |
| 17:04.08 | valdyn | m1k3: ^^ |
| 17:04.14 | m1k3 | valdyn: thanks very much |
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| 17:04.51 | MakedonceMarko | loool |
| 17:05.12 | MakedonceMarko | what chat weird everything |
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| 17:05.56 | wols | MakedonceMarko: if you don't have any constructive support to contribute, then please be quiet |
| 17:06.13 | MakedonceMarko | lool |
| 17:06.24 | MakedonceMarko | what suport |
| 17:06.32 | MakedonceMarko | suport of what |
| 17:06.39 | wols | MakedonceMarko: this channel is for debian support only and not for social chat |
| 17:06.50 | MakedonceMarko | ohh |
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| 17:07.02 | MakedonceMarko | what is debian |
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| 17:07.17 | wols | MakedonceMarko: debian is a linux distribution. www.debian.org |
| 17:07.58 | MakedonceMarko | ohhh |
| 17:08.01 | MakedonceMarko | i see |
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| 17:08.11 | MakedonceMarko | i enter in wrong chat |
| 17:08.14 | MakedonceMarko | sorry |
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| 17:08.31 | fir31ight | !chat |
| 17:08.31 | dpkg | well, chat is what we do in #debian-offtopic |
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| 17:09.43 | MakedonceMarko | ok smart people i leaving |
| 17:09.48 | babilen | MakedonceMarko: Please enter "/join #defocus" if you are after a chat channel, but you are probably looking for a different network such as efnet or dalnet |
| 17:09.49 | ag4ve | how do i stop the system from telling me i have new email? |
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| 17:11.58 | fir31ight | ag4ve: do you want the mail to still exist or be dumped but not receive the notification? |
| 17:12.11 | KnightsWhoSayNi | ag4ve: exim right? you might want to open mutt and look at your mail, or delete it |
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| 17:12.52 | ag4ve | uh.... it's just local mail.... probably exim |
| 17:13.31 | ag4ve | yeah, exim |
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| 17:14.08 | ag4ve | fir31ight: yeah, i want the mail to be there. i just don't want the 'new mail' message getting in the way when i'm typing stuff |
| 17:14.26 | m1k3 | bb |
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| 17:14.31 | ag4ve | then i hit ^L and it clears my screen and messes up other stuff |
| 17:15.14 | KnightsWhoSayNi | hmm, i have never seen any notifications so far - go look at the message, and i think the message goes away after its read |
| 17:15.31 | KnightsWhoSayNi | the notification i mean |
| 17:15.36 | ag4ve | or 'messes up other stuff' == it clears my screen (as it should) but is the only way i know how to properly see my command |
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| 17:16.44 | fir31ight | ag4ve: use the command -> biff n |
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| 17:17.17 | fir31ight | ag4ve: wait you might not have that |
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| 17:17.41 | ag4ve | fir31ight: yeah, i was just looking at that :) |
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| 17:18.46 | ag4ve | maybe a 'mail' switch.... looking |
| 17:18.55 | fir31ight | ag4ve: how about this -> unset MAILCHECK |
| 17:19.00 | fir31ight | ag4ve: put in your .bashrc file |
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| 17:19.34 | chenthu | babilen: i am back ...you there? |
| 17:19.54 | ag4ve | fir31ight: ahha, yep that looks right: MAILCHECK=60 |
| 17:20.00 | ag4ve | thanks |
| 17:20.06 | babilen | Who summoned me? |
| 17:20.18 | ag4ve | .zshrc, but i get the point :) |
| 17:20.20 | JoshDreamland | I run a free software package with dependencies on G++. One of my users is getting an error that a call to abs(int) is ambiguous. So I had him replace <cmath> with <math.h>; now he's told that abs() is undeclared. |
| 17:20.30 | babilen | chenthu: Yes, I am here. What is the result of those commands? |
| 17:20.52 | JoshDreamland | No one on any of Arch, Ubuntu, SUSE, or even Windows or Apple has ever had this error. Why is it affecting him? |
| 17:21.03 | JoshDreamland | is there a difference in Debian's GCC packages? |
| 17:22.35 | JoshDreamland | I'm going to assume his gcc package is destroyed and ask him to reinstall that |
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| 17:26.03 | dvs | JoshDreamland: gcc uses the std namespace |
| 17:26.36 | JoshDreamland | dvs: C has no namespaces. But after cmath, I added using namespace std;. |
| 17:26.49 | JoshDreamland | That was not removed upon changing to math.h. |
| 17:27.42 | chenthu | babilen: i tried all those u said it still cant find newtwork....atleast previously it found chenthu but now now... these are the commands u gave right?.."ifdown wlan0 ; iwconfig wlan0 essid Chenthu ; ifconfig wlan0 up ; dhclient wlan0" |
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| 17:28.14 | th0r | chenthu: the essid is not capitalized is it? I think it is case sensitive |
| 17:28.31 | webad_13 | I can do this without a problem: cat image.jpg|feh, however if I do: cat image.jpg| ssh user@host 'cat | feh' it says that "No loadable images specified" |
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| 17:29.09 | panosru | I removed /etc/init.d/mysql do anyone know what should I do in order to get it back? |
| 17:29.37 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 17:29.38 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 17:29.39 | valdyn | panosru: ^^ |
| 17:29.47 | rcbarnes | I have a complex situation that I'd really appreciate a hand with. I have a RAID array (3ware HW controller) that hosts my / partition, which is an LVM-managed crypted partition that I've been using since etch was stable. I booted up today and my raid card started verifying my drive during a fsck which trashed my superblocks, but my filesystem is mounted readonly and using what appears to be a correct file table (I can see all my |
| 17:30.03 | chenthu | th0r: it is not case sensitive cause my first letter is capital and rest small....but when my debian wifi detected it showed all in small |
| 17:30.26 | babilen | chenthu: I would appreciate it if we wouldn't switch channels |
| 17:30.33 | rcbarnes | Is there a way to save my memory's copy of the metadata, etc? |
| 17:31.03 | babilen | th0r: That was the ESSID chenthu gave earlier IIRC |
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| 17:31.18 | babilen | th0r: Or at least the one from his /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:31.31 | chenthu | babilen: switch channels? |
| 17:31.34 | edgar | holas >( |
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| 17:31.52 | th0r | babilen: just checking. I was having trouble getting wicd to connect here, then realized there was an upper case letter in the middle of the essid |
| 17:31.53 | babilen | chenthu: Hop between freenode and oftc .. This is freenode. |
| 17:32.00 | panosru | valdyn: thanks! for the $packagename should I enter something else instead? I tried mysql-common but still I cant get the files missing :/ |
| 17:32.15 | babilen | th0r: It might very well be the problem, no idea. I've never seen scan output. |
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| 17:33.44 | chenthu | babilen: OMG i am really sry i dint realise that iw as switching...sorry |
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| 17:34.26 | babilen | no problem, it was just slightly disconcerting and people in the other channel might not be aware of things that are going on here |
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| 17:36.44 | chenthu | babilen: ok ...so do u have any idea where i can find the other file (b43-open/ucode5.fw) |
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| 17:40.45 | babilen | chenthu: You should be able to cut it from the firmware. Did you read the link I gave you on the other network? I would also expect the b44-*-installer package to do that automagically. |
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| 17:43.57 | stealthii | hi there. can anyone pastebin the debian lenny /etc/bashrc for me? |
| 17:44.17 | stealthii | needs to be the system default one, for bash 3.x |
| 17:44.37 | DDoS | good morning |
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| 17:45.21 | leelo | hello...I'm having a problem I suspect is with my network drivers...can someone help me out for a minute? |
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| 17:46.01 | kristian-aalborg | greetings |
| 17:46.16 | kristian-aalborg | I have a super old laptop (1997) that I love to play with |
| 17:47.05 | kristian-aalborg | I'm thinking of booting from a cd to usb (bios won't support it) and then have a very slim install there - would this be horribly slow? USB is 1.0, obviously |
| 17:47.06 | dvs | frizbee? |
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| 17:48.50 | th0r | kristian-aalborg: if you can boot from cd why not boot into a netinstall or a live cd and install from there? |
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| 17:50.36 | kristian-aalborg | th0r, I will have to make a specific grub cd to run from the USB |
| 17:50.42 | kristian-aalborg | but will it be okay-ish? |
| 17:51.04 | th0r | I have never used a usb boot. Older computers usually don't support it |
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| 17:51.41 | tonytraductor | I've been messing with a midi controller and rosegarden, and, whenever I do, seem to lose access to sound. |
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| 17:52.22 | tonytraductor | I'm wondering if putting sound in full duplex would help, and also, how to do that (and I mean, from the cli, not using gnome or kde or anything else with nifty gui tools for manipulating the sound system). |
| 17:52.41 | zulu7 | generally, it is recommended to upgrade the system in single-user-mode. But I guess doing it on the console without X running (including login managers) is also okay, isn't it? |
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| 17:54.08 | tonytraductor | shutting down timidity and restarting sounds gets me back, but having to do that everytime I want to playback what I'm writing is a PITA. |
| 17:54.44 | tonytraductor | zulu7: I've upgraded signed into X without issues, frankly. |
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| 17:55.09 | VirtualEpeen | test |
| 17:55.10 | thekix | hi |
| 17:55.30 | Electroso | test |
| 17:55.32 | zulu7 | test failed |
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| 18:01.57 | DexterF | how much swap should one give a 8GB RAM file server? |
| 18:02.24 | Electroso | ? |
| 18:02.30 | sickgut | none |
| 18:02.34 | Avinash_Sonawane | msg nickserv register Universeas1990 avinash.sonawane1990@gmail.com |
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| 18:02.44 | dvs | DexterF: about 8GB |
| 18:02.45 | DexterF | lol |
| 18:02.52 | DexterF | dvs: reason? |
| 18:02.59 | jhutchins | DexterF: none is good, 8G would be another option - but consider how long it takes to swap 8g. Maybe 2G? |
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| 18:03.11 | sickgut | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.15 | wols | what does a fileserver need swap for? |
| 18:03.26 | DexterF | well, it will do more than only file server |
| 18:03.38 | dvs | sickgut: But I'd rather have the swap when the time comes than have the server crash. |
| 18:03.38 | DexterF | two 1GB VMs |
| 18:03.51 | jhutchins | DexterF: Ideally it's only for emergencies, you wan to tune the system not to swap, but during the tuning process you'll probably need/use some. |
| 18:03.52 | wols | DexterF: then start by telling us what you're actually doing and skip the lies |
| 18:04.10 | DexterF | wols: your choice of words: it sucks |
| 18:04.28 | jhutchins | DexterF: His choice of words: it is correct. |
| 18:04.28 | wols | DexterF: just like your questions. I guess we're even then |
| 18:04.30 | nailora | Avinash_Sonawane: I think you forget a /. You should change your PW though. |
| 18:05.03 | Avinash_Sonawane | nailora: this is my experiance |
| 18:05.11 | Avinash_Sonawane | *first |
| 18:05.59 | sickgut | i dont thing people know how much 8gb of ram really is |
| 18:06.00 | jhutchins | Avinash_Sonawane: So try again with a leading / and a different password. |
| 18:06.00 | nailora | DexterF: A fileserver should only ever handle file data and file metadata. Swapping out file data is kind of pointless and you should not need more than 8 GB RAM for file metadata. So no swap. |
| 18:06.30 | wols | sickgut: they don't know what various types of servers do either |
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| 18:06.50 | sickgut | if you had 4gb ram for file server i would still say it would prob never need swap |
| 18:06.57 | wols | sickgut: and last but not least they don't tell us what they actually use it for but make shit up |
| 18:07.26 | sickgut | 2gb prob still no swap |
| 18:07.59 | sickgut | especially if it is just sitting at the command line |
| 18:08.14 | sickgut | with no monitor connected like a real server |
| 18:08.35 | DexterF | ok, the system is supposed to: be a HTPC running XBMC, so it will have a desktop system, most likely xfce for low footprint and so I have a desktop system in case I need to have one to launch a browser. that media center will access a softraid 5 with large xfs volumes. xfs takes a lot of RAM if it can for buffering. the raid will be served via NFS4 to a local net. then the mentioned two VMs with 1GB RAM. |
| 18:08.39 | DexterF | that's about it. |
| 18:08.58 | sickgut | lol |
| 18:09.15 | sickgut | ok so about as far away from being a fileserver as you can get |
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| 18:09.23 | sickgut | so let re evaluate |
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| 18:11.02 | DexterF | sickgut: well, I don't expect xbmc to use rather small buffers. it's rather a cpu/gpu thing. |
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| 18:11.30 | Avinash_Sonawane | @ nailora- thanx! |
| 18:11.54 | wols | can't see anything that needs excessive swap at all. so maybe you can if you really want to set up a few hundred MB of it but that's it |
| 18:11.59 | babilen | Avinash_Sonawane: It is a good habit not to perform any nickserv actions within a channel, so you don't reveal your email/password by mistake. |
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| 18:13.49 | DexterF | is there anything that cannot live without having swap space at all? |
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| 18:14.00 | VirtualEpeen | what would you use a virtual pc for? i just set one up and i am think of what i can do with it |
| 18:14.01 | wols | no |
| 18:14.13 | Avinash_Sonawane | @babilen- 4m "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto" this, I did that. |
| 18:14.17 | Tectu | i need a mkv to avi converter, any recommends? I'd like to have a gui |
| 18:14.37 | DexterF | hm. guess I'll try without then first. can add one later if all explodes |
| 18:14.54 | rajkosto | how get gcc 4.6 without messing up my squeeze |
| 18:15.06 | wols | rajkosto: what for? |
| 18:15.11 | wols | ,versions gcc-4.6 |
| 18:15.11 | judd | Package gcc-4.6 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.6.1-4; sid: 4.6.1-5 |
| 18:15.12 | zykotick9 | Tectu, winff perhaps? it's a frontend for ffmpeg. |
| 18:15.29 | Avinash_Sonawane | First encounter with IRC. I am in great need of IRC commands and everything about IRC. Please help. |
| 18:15.30 | rajkosto | HOW wheezy without messing up |
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| 18:15.45 | Tectu | zykotick9: i am using that right now, i have some problem... i cannot convert because i get the error with wrong parameters but i let the additional options emty |
| 18:15.54 | Tectu | empty* so it should be default, zykotick9 |
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| 18:16.14 | wols | rajkosto: what for? |
| 18:16.24 | rajkosto | 0x lambdas god damn it |
| 18:16.31 | wols | rajkosto: you can install a wheezy in a chroot for example |
| 18:16.37 | rajkosto | no |
| 18:16.50 | rajkosto | i want gcc -v to give me 4.6 |
| 18:16.55 | Grav | Hi is it possible to change partition size after installation I want to make / bigger and /home smaller |
| 18:16.59 | wols | rajkosto: and I want a pony |
| 18:17.12 | zykotick9 | Tectu, depending on what is inside that .mkv, you might need codecs from d-m (you might be having a problem with AAC, which the ffmpeg from debian probably doesn't support) |
| 18:17.12 | wols | rajkosto: you can try and backport it yourself. that's about it |
| 18:17.48 | rajkosto | nein |
| 18:17.52 | rajkosto | how use some packages from testing |
| 18:17.58 | Tectu | zykotick9: the codec's name is "d-m"? just to be sure... |
| 18:18.08 | zykotick9 | !d-m |
| 18:18.08 | dpkg | [dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze> <dmm lenny>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>. |
| 18:18.37 | zykotick9 | Tectu, does mplayer (or other tool) tell you what is inside the MKV? |
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| 18:18.51 | wols | rajkosto: you upgrade to testing or you backport. those are the only ways |
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| 18:18.59 | rajkosto | cant i mix |
| 18:19.16 | wols | you can. then you get a broken debian and can reinstall it sooner or later. your choice |
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| 18:19.37 | rajkosto | cant i compile it myself |
| 18:19.53 | wols | yes you can. I told you: backport |
| 18:20.24 | Avinash_Sonawane | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.47 | cahoot | !irc |
| 18:20.47 | dpkg | IRC is Internet Relay Chat, the means to provide #debian to its patrons. Official Debian IRC channels: http://wiki.debian.org/IRC . Please read http://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc . Ask me about <irc tutorial> and <faq>. See also <debstats> and <irclog>. |
| 18:21.12 | cahoot | !tell Avinash_Sonawane about irc tutorial |
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| 18:24.04 | Tectu | zykotick9: vlc says: http://www.abload.de/img/codecjjd7.png |
| 18:25.23 | zykotick9 | Tectu, sorry I don't have any experience with DTS audio (but doubt it's an open standard, and thus included in default Debian - but could be wrong). Best of luck. |
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| 18:26.16 | Tectu | okay, thanks anyway, zykotick9 |
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| 18:36.20 | Rafase282 | Hello, how can I make a backup of a flash usb to I can move the filesystem to a bigger flash drive? |
| 18:36.25 | DexterF | should I go for ext3 or ext4 for / ? any reason not to use ext4? |
| 18:36.34 | Rafase282 | use ext4 |
| 18:36.45 | Rafase282 | but if is a flash drive use ext2 |
| 18:37.23 | DasEi | Rafase282: rsync -Pr |
| 18:37.44 | Rafase282 | what does that do? |
| 18:38.16 | DasEi | Rafase282: same as copy, but resumable n better algorythm; is it a bootable drive ? |
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| 18:38.42 | Rafase282 | yeah i have arch linus fs there that i use to boot my server from |
| 18:38.45 | DexterF | Rafase282: and you give fs type advice? :) |
| 18:38.48 | boudiccas | Rafase282; man rsync |
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| 18:39.00 | Rafase282 | i just want to make a copy to a bigger usb flash drive since im runing out of space |
| 18:39.20 | DasEi | Rafase282: well bootable, dd will do, but then you keep old filesystem |
| 18:39.27 | Rafase282 | His question was not that hard |
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| 18:39.56 | DasEi | in the later can then re-size to bigger space |
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| 18:40.41 | TimmyT1 | how to use xmpp/jabber to login into yahoo? (yahoo transport) |
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| 18:41.54 | Rafase282 | im trying gparted for the copy |
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| 18:42.05 | Rafase282 | i was looking into dd |
| 18:42.19 | Rafase282 | never used or saw rsync before |
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| 18:43.00 | TimmyT1 | Nu^253r: wat r u doing here? |
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| 18:43.31 | Nu^253r | u here TimmyT1 ? |
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| 18:43.55 | DasEi | Rafase282: dd if=/dev/sdSource of=/dev/sdDestination (ask sudo fdisk -l) , afterwards use geparted to resize bigger usb, then correct fstab/grub (uuids) |
| 18:43.58 | TimmyT1 | Nu^253r: no, its just my ghost |
| 18:45.05 | Nu^253r | oh ok good to hear |
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| 18:56.36 | DexterF | is /etc/debian_version still used in 6.0? |
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| 19:01.30 | rudi_s | DexterF: Yes. |
| 19:01.45 | DexterF | rudi_s: weird. says 5.0 but it's lenny |
| 19:02.00 | rudi_s | DexterF: Well, lenny is 5.0, squeeze is 6.0 |
| 19:02.06 | DexterF | -.- |
| 19:02.29 | DexterF | I'm getting old. "back then" I knew the production weeks of my cpus.... |
| 19:02.52 | rudi_s | ;-) |
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| 19:13.39 | george_ | how do you use the mail command for sending e-mail on the internal network, I did "mail username@hostname" and when I checked my mail it gave me message that it failed to send |
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| 19:30.48 | chenthu | babilen: hey i think its working |
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| 19:31.04 | babilen | chenthu: great, please elaborate |
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| 19:35.35 | chenthu | babilen: when i give this command " dhclient wlan0 if i get this ----------> http://paste.debian.net/124704/ it means its working right? |
| 19:36.38 | babilen | no |
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| 19:36.50 | chenthu | babilen: omg.... :( |
| 19:37.09 | babilen | Can you run "ping 8.8.8.8" ? or "ping google.com" ? |
| 19:37.28 | babilen | and that is not the output of "dhclient wlan0" :) |
| 19:37.44 | chenthu | babilen: ok will try |
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| 19:38.06 | chenthu | says unknow host google |
| 19:38.14 | chenthu | babilen: ^^ |
| 19:38.37 | wols | chenthu: and ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
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| 19:39.04 | chenthu | wols: network unreachable |
| 19:40.05 | wols | chenthu: can you ping your router IP then? |
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| 19:41.02 | wols | chenthu: your paste from above has nothing to do with dhclient wlan0 btw |
| 19:41.06 | babilen | chenthu: What did you do before? How did you configure your network now? |
| 19:41.12 | chenthu | wols: says unreachable...i think something happened now |
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| 19:42.18 | chenthu | babilen: just downloaded a zip file and copied the folders to /etc/firmware following this link -------------> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=759100 ....but i know the drivers are old....jiust wanna check it |
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| 19:42.36 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 19:42.53 | babilen | I can't read that. |
| 19:43.01 | chenthu | babilen: why?....did i do anything wrong?.... |
| 19:43.44 | chenthu | babilen: there is another link ...this is not alone for ubuntu...wait let me give u the exact link..... |
| 19:44.11 | chenthu | babilen: http://www.omattos.com/node/6 |
| 19:44.19 | babilen | No idea, but /etc/firmware is definitely wrong. Didn't we discuss this enough yesterday? You have to install the firmware-b43legacy-installer package, not some random files from Ubuntu forums. Apart from that I also linked you to the kernel.org page that explained how to use fwcutter. |
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| 19:45.01 | magog_ | hi |
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| 19:45.19 | chenthu | babilen: i d=understood that...but i wanted to try this one cause it said no fw-cutter needed.... i am sry if i have done somwthing wrong |
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| 19:46.27 | chenthu | babilen: cause when i google for b43/ucode5.fw and b43-open/ucode5.fw i got this link which said it worked irrespecttive of distro and many positive comments so i used it |
| 19:46.49 | chenthu | babilen: i am reaslly really sry if thats something wrong in using ubuntuforum advice |
| 19:46.58 | babilen | I don't know if you've done something wrong -- Don't worry, it is just hard to start from the beginning now. The problem with firmware-b43legacy-installer is that it needs a working network connection to download the firmware. |
| 19:47.32 | chenthu | babilen: i just copied a folder...so i can just delete the folde |
| 19:47.50 | magog_ | I need some help. I need deb file for my program. I have sources of it. my distributive is gentoo and i dom't know how to create deb packet on gentoo. Someone can create вÑи packet for me? |
| 19:48.06 | magog_ | deb* |
| 19:48.07 | babilen | Ok, so you've downloaded the firmware? I have no idea if it is the correct firmware or something else. The firmware should be installed to /lib/firmware and *not* /etc/firmware |
| 19:48.25 | Ramosa | how come sudo npm tells me "npm: command not found" when npm alone works fine |
| 19:48.28 | chenthu | babilen: yeah yeah i mistyped... its /lib/firmware and i did it right |
| 19:49.15 | babilen | chenthu: So, what I would like you to do now is to copy the firmware to /lib/firmware ... |
| 19:49.30 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, important details ;) |
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| 19:49.54 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, when yoy run "lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i network" which kernel module is in use? |
| 19:49.56 | chenthu | babilen: i already did.... i just mistyped it here... i copied it to lib/firmware.... i am sure i could even see it here |
| 19:50.44 | babilen | chenthu: It's fine, but as it is hard for me to take a look these details are important. And there is really absolutely *no* way for you to get online using ethernet? |
| 19:50.45 | chenthu | babilen: b43-pci-bridge |
| 19:51.47 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, run "modprobe -r b43 ; modprobe b43 ; dmesg | tail -23" now. Is it complaining about missing firmware or do you get other errors? Can you see your network when you run "ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan" ? |
| 19:52.09 | chenthu | babilen: nope....may be i will go to my friends place use a ethernet if he is available.....cause i stopped using wire connection long before....because i keep travelling i usually carry my 3g card or stream wifi from my android |
| 19:53.06 | babilen | ok (just wanted to make sure) |
| 19:53.26 | chenthu | babilen: modprobe -r b43 gives b43-pci-bridge 0000:01:00.0 PCI INT A disabled |
| 19:53.50 | th0r | babilen: pm? |
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| 19:55.55 | chenthu | babilen; for command modprobe b43 : i get a lot of things u want me to pastebin? |
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| 19:57.38 | babilen | th0r: sure |
| 19:57.47 | chenthu | babilen: it says i am using a old firmware and no issing firmware |
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| 19:57.55 | babilen | chenthu: Is it complaining about anything in particular? |
| 19:58.24 | chenthu | babilen: nope...it just says abt the old firmware nothing else |
| 19:58.26 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, lets assume that this is not a huge problem. You really should have downloaded the firmware from the kernel.org website I gave you earlier. |
| 19:58.36 | babilen | chenthu: What abou the network scan? |
| 19:58.39 | MobileMe | Hi, I'm having issues with my box, it simply can't connect to some wireless routers. I'm using Broadcom 4312 with NetworkManager |
| 19:59.14 | MobileMe | I have done pretty much everything I could thing of |
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| 20:00.10 | chenthu | babilen: i already have downloaded since this is a fresh install i havent used it... i will delete the 2 copied folders and then do as u told me yeterday.... and yesterday th0r gave me some folder and it worked till scanning it dint connect...so may be ii will do that first? |
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| 20:02.15 | chenthu | babilen: dmesg result it again says only abt the old firmware and not missing firmware...but it says found Broadcom 4311 WLAN and not 4312...cause thats mine not 4311 |
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| 20:02.54 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, what about the network scan? |
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| 20:03.29 | chenthu | babilen: host name lookup failure |
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| 20:04.08 | babilen | chenthu: You run "ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan" and get host name lookup failure? |
| 20:04.10 | chenthu | babilen: sry i gave it wrong |
| 20:04.34 | babilen | chenthu: btw, th0r talked you through this yesterday. it would be nice if you could repeat what you've done yesterday again. |
| 20:04.36 | chenthu | babilen: now i gave it right and it doesnt give anything just goes to the next terminal line |
| 20:04.51 | chenthu | babilen: ok |
| 20:05.12 | babilen | chenthu: Please run "iwlist wlan0 scan" again ... Absolutely no output? Do you see the interface in "iwconfig" and "ifconfig -a" ? |
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| 20:05.38 | chenthu | babilen: he gave me some files and ask me to install fwcutter before i carry out his instructuons and i installed fwcutter |
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| 20:06.30 | chenthu | babilen: when i run iwlist wlan0 scan i get three host name and related data |
| 20:06.39 | babilen | yes, indeed .. lets pretend we have done that. You don't see the interface in "iwfconfig" nor "ifconfig -a" and "iwlist wlan0 scan" does not give any output *at all* ? |
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| 20:06.54 | babilen | chenthu: You can see three networks? |
| 20:07.05 | babilen | chenthu: Is one of them yours? Is it still unencrypted? |
| 20:07.17 | chenthu | babilen: yeah.. two mine ( 1 my wifi another my adhoc wifi from this sys) |
| 20:07.34 | chenthu | babilen: yeah both of mine are unencrypted |
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| 20:08.24 | Tekk_ | what's the aptitude flag to remove something without getting rid of the things that it was installed with? |
| 20:08.29 | babilen | Ok, run "iwconfig wlan0 Chenthu" now (assuming your network's ESSID is Chenthu) and then "iwconfig wlan0" -- is it associated? |
| 20:08.39 | Tekk_ | like I installed gnome, but I don't want mono, empathy, or evolution |
| 20:08.57 | babilen | !tell Tekk_ -about remove rhythmbox |
| 20:09.27 | Tekk_ | babilen: thanks |
| 20:09.28 | chenthu | babilen: it says unknown command chenthu |
| 20:09.41 | babilen | Tekk_: That is *one* general strategy. I would personally recommend to just install a smaller gnome-metapackage and "aptitude unmarkauto" everyhting else you want to keep. /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 20:10.05 | babilen | chenthu: Ah, sorry ... make that "iwconfig wlan0 essid Chenthu" :) |
| 20:10.25 | Tekk_ | babilen: alright, seems like I need to be installing gnome-session then |
| 20:10.41 | babilen | Tekk_: For example, that depends on your needs :) |
| 20:10.54 | Tekk_ | babilen: yeah, gnome-sessions seems about right :) |
| 20:11.01 | babilen | But if you want to get rid of evolution, you'll have to, yes. |
| 20:11.03 | DexterF | how can I reinstall grub2 from a live system? I can access / including boot. I think chroot but I need to pass the devices along somehow |
| 20:11.06 | Tekk_ | emacs, pidgin, iceweasel, miro.. |
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| 20:11.15 | babilen | Tekk_: Right! Have fun :) |
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| 20:11.31 | babilen | !tell DexterF -about fixmbr |
| 20:12.16 | babilen | chenthu: status? |
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| 20:13.07 | chenthu | babilen: ok now after running both the commands i get ----------> http://paste.debian.net/124706/ |
| 20:13.20 | DexterF | babilen: no dvdrom on the target system. cannot boot a cd/dvd there. need to prepare the disk on the system I am on now. |
| 20:13.23 | chenthu | babilen: sry for the delay was typing in pastebin |
| 20:13.40 | DexterF | oh well, I could boot a rescue disc on that one... |
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| 20:14.03 | babilen | chenthu: It is much faster if you just answer questions and don't just type everything in a pastebin :) |
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| 20:14.22 | chenthu | babilen: ok ....sry for that... :) |
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| 20:14.37 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, it is not associating. The network is named chenthu ? It is still unencrypted? (I.e. open) ? |
| 20:14.50 | chenthu | babilen: yeah it is open |
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| 20:15.20 | babilen | and the networks name is "chenthu" ? (exactly like that) |
| 20:15.43 | chenthu | babilen: yeah iexactly like that "chenthu" |
| 20:16.21 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, try "ifconfig wlan0 down ; iwconfig wlan0 essid chenthu ; ifconfig wlan0 up" again. Run "tail -f /var/log/messages" in another tty and check errors. |
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| 20:16.39 | babilen | chenthu: If it is associating, run "dhclient wlan0" (or run it anyway) |
| 20:17.00 | babilen | chenthu: It might be that you'll have to install the firmware with fwcutter as th0r explained yesterday. |
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| 20:17.40 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 20:18.04 | babilen | is taking a break. |
| 20:18.24 | Posterdati | please I'm playing with usban terror (full screen) then if I switched back to kde with Tab + Alt, the screen become black with the pointer only |
| 20:18.28 | babilen | chenthu: Once you've done this (and got an address with dhclient) you can run the "ping 8.8.8.8" and "ping google.com" again. |
| 20:18.50 | chenthu | babilen: cant open another tty cause i am actually doing all this in recovery mode |
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| 20:19.03 | eptalon | heyas |
| 20:19.08 | babilen | runs |
| 20:19.19 | eptalon | saw |
| 20:19.44 | eptalon | Is there a way to attach to a running X11 session from another comp? |
| 20:20.03 | eptalon | rather than starting a new one? |
| 20:20.21 | DexterF | eptalon: run x11vnc on target, connect with xtightvncviewer |
| 20:20.43 | gonzzor | Gnome has a built-in VNC server that you can start |
| 20:20.47 | DexterF | eptalon: if you only want a single app try ssh -X <target>, then run app from console |
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| 20:22.00 | burt_ | G'day from NZ! I am a relative NuB who can not mount a floppy disk. I have read man & tried advice from "LinuxQuestions.com" but get "mounting as read-only" but nothing happens ? |
| 20:22.00 | eptalon | DexterF: I basically want the whole display output mapped, to check something; I dont need an ssh or ssh with X forwarding |
| 20:22.35 | eptalon | burt_: mount /dev/fd0 /some/where |
| 20:22.52 | eptalon | burt_: perhaps mount -o rw... |
| 20:23.31 | gonzzor | eptalon: If you use gnome, vino-server should be able to solve your problem.. |
| 20:23.33 | eptalon | burt_: but true 3.5" floppies have a write protect switch. |
| 20:23.44 | eptalon | gonzzor: I use xfce |
| 20:24.05 | burt_ | eptalon:tried that - nothing also tried with write protect off - nothing |
| 20:24.08 | eptalon | burt_: if you can see through the hole, the thing is write protected. |
| 20:24.22 | burt_ | see above |
| 20:24.47 | DexterF | eptalon: http://pastebin.com/UF2UBrQF <- save that as "rx" somewhere in your path, make it executable. creates a ssh tunnel for x11vnc so its secure. requires x11vnx on the target to be installes, and I think you have to manually create ~/.vnc on the target before you run it first |
| 20:25.28 | babilen | chenthu: status? |
| 20:25.46 | chenthu | babilen: not associated again |
| 20:26.04 | chenthu | babilen: dhc client doesnt return anything |
| 20:26.19 | chenthu | babilen: i am installing fwcutter now...is it ok? |
| 20:26.23 | babilen | sure |
| 20:26.24 | burt_ | eptalon: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 does not work? |
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| 20:27.38 | eptalon | burt_: it should, what does syslog say? |
| 20:28.04 | eptalon | not sure if floppies are vfat.. |
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| 20:28.56 | burt_ | eptalon: dunno - will look now - Be r-i-g-h-t back the foppie opens ok in Windoze XP? |
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| 20:29.08 | chenthu | babilen: installed fwcutter now?...do i have to continue as th0r said yesterday ? |
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| 20:30.33 | babilen | chenthu: It should basically be what is detailed on http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Other_distributions_not_mentioned_above |
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| 20:31.01 | babilen | chenthu: But could you give me the pciid again? (lspci -nn|grep -i network) |
| 20:31.07 | chenthu | babilen: ok doing that right now |
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| 20:31.41 | plov | for some reason now whenever i login to a debian server, i need to source ~/.bash_profile just to get terminal color, didn't use to be this way |
| 20:31.50 | plov | anyone know what caused it or how i can fix it? |
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| 20:31.54 | chenthu | babilen: [14e4:4312] |
| 20:31.59 | babilen | chenthu: thanks |
| 20:32.11 | chenthu | babilen: thanks to u .. :) |
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| 20:33.17 | babilen | chenthu: Let's try one more thing. Could you run "ifconfig wlan0 down ; modprobe -r b43 ; modprobe ssb" and then "iwconfig" -- Is it showing the device? |
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| 20:34.05 | chenthu | babilen: it was showing my device as 4311 as i told you...but i will do it again and check ... :) |
| 20:34.55 | babilen | chenthu: No, I meant interface -- Does it have wireless extensions? If so run "iwconfig wlan0 essid chenthu" and "dhclient -v wlan0" |
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| 20:35.54 | chenthu | babilen: modprobe -r b43 gives b43-pci-bridge 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A disabled |
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| 20:36.23 | babilen | chenthu: The command I want you to run is "ifconfig wlan0 down ; modprobe -r b43 ; modprobe ssb" (note the ssb) |
| 20:36.40 | chenthu | babilen: oh ok...u mean all to gether? |
| 20:36.53 | chenthu | babilen: together* |
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| 20:37.33 | babilen | chenthu: yes, that is *one* command ... you can also run them seperately if you prefer though. |
| 20:38.42 | chenthu | babilen: u want me to pastebin it?...or just the interface? |
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| 20:39.43 | babilen | No, please run "iwconfig" and tell me if you can see wlan0 with wireless extensions (or another interface with wireless extensions) |
| 20:40.55 | babilen | Also: Can you see the interface in "ifconfig -a" ? |
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| 20:42.37 | ParkerR | I am trying to use a VGA monitor with the proprietary nvidia drivers on my laptop. I plug in my monitor and it says no signal. I do xrandr -q and it only shows my laptop display. Any ideas? |
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| 20:43.19 | burt_ | eptalon: Only thing I could find in SYSLOG that MIGHT be relevant FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! |
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| 20:43.37 | chenthu | babilen: babilen : u there?.... |
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| 20:44.01 | babilen | chenthu: Yes, I am waiting for the answer to my questions? (does the interface exist and does it have wireless extensions) |
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| 20:45.05 | wols | ParkerR: nvidia doesn't support xrandr. use nvidia-settings |
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| 20:45.09 | chenthu | babilen: sry i dint see those 2 lines u typed cause it never indeicated me.... :-P |
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| 20:45.46 | chenthu | babilen: yeah when i give wlan0 ihave the wirless extentions |
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| 20:46.24 | chenthu | babilen: yeah when i give iwconfig" i see wlan0 with wireless extention |
| 20:46.41 | burt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.23 | ParkerR | wols, and nvidia-settings doesnt show the display either |
| 20:47.45 | babilen | chenthu: Ok, no run "ifconfig wlan0 down ; ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwconfig wlan0 essid chenthu ; dhclient -v wlan0" |
| 20:47.46 | chenthu | babilen: "ifconfig -a gives all three interface (eth0 lo and wlan0) with extentions |
| 20:47.55 | babilen | s/no/now |
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| 20:51.07 | burt_ | Tried: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 does not work? |
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| 20:52.16 | chenthu | babilen: it gave a lot of info which one u need..... |
| 20:52.54 | babilen | chenthu: You got an address? (DHCPOFFER) Can you ping now? (ping 8.8.8.8 - ping google.com) |
| 20:53.32 | chenthu | babilen: nope it says No DHCPOFFERS |
| 20:53.35 | burt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.02 | ParkerR | burt_, we heard you the first three times |
| 20:54.19 | burt_ | sorry |
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| 20:55.09 | babilen | chenthu: Pity, OK. You have a couple of options now: Get wired internet. Try the wl driver http://wiki.debian.org/wl or work on the firmware. The best hing would probably to get online and install the firmware-b43legacy-installer package, but you can also do it manually. |
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| 20:55.34 | babilen | chenthu: Ah, the best option would be to get rid of this broadcom crap and buy a better wireless adaptor. |
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| 20:56.12 | chenthu | babilen: will be getting my new laptop only by the end of aug... |
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| 20:57.15 | chenthu | babilen: i think i would rather go for live usb and install from ther cause that worked the previous time but that was a 32bit image and i just am downloading the 64bit hybrid iso image image |
| 20:57.19 | babilen | chenthu: Ah, ok. Well, you know what you can try. The wl driver is certainly a viable alternative ... |
| 20:57.34 | chenthu | babilen: ok will try it now.... :) |
| 20:57.35 | babilen | chenthu: I don't see how this would make a difference |
| 20:57.42 | chenthu | babilen: thank you very much |
| 20:58.23 | chenthu | babilen: what abt the display issue...any idea or better i wait for my live usb 64bit hybrid iso image to get downloaded? |
| 20:58.46 | ParkerR | wols, ahh I had to click detech displays in nvidia-settigs. Thanks for the help |
| 20:58.54 | ParkerR | *detect |
| 20:59.11 | babilen | chenthu: The new ISO will not change anything. Work on the system you have now. Reinstalling doesn't help. Once you have internet you can install the nvidia driver. |
| 20:59.17 | babilen | !tell chenthu -about nvidia dkms |
| 20:59.36 | babilen | chenthu: You just have to get online somehow, everyhting will be *much* easier then. |
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| 20:59.53 | chenthu | babilen: ok... :) |
| 21:00.21 | babilen | curses broadcom |
| 21:00.48 | burt_ | ParkerR: Any suggestions? |
| 21:01.11 | chenthu | babilen: thank you very much you were really a great help...and thank others too th0r wols TCW krakrjak |
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| 21:31.00 | ParkerR | 1111Has anyone gotten the headphone jack to work with Realtek HD audio chipsets? |
| 21:31.10 | ParkerR | r/1111/ |
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| 21:31.47 | adminewb | Afaict my routing tables are ok, but a virtualbox host-only network isn't sending packets out as it should. pinging to the host's outgoing interface address times out. Someone can look at this? http://paste.debian.net/124711/ |
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| 21:32.39 | adminewb | should I pastebin some ping output? |
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| 21:33.21 | Nu^253r | u can message dpkg about it adminewb |
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| 21:33.49 | adminewb | hmm |
| 21:34.04 | Nu^253r | or u can pasebin adminewb |
| 21:34.11 | Nu^253r | which ever suits u best |
| 21:34.26 | Nu^253r | but usually ull get kicked if u type like loads in a litiel while |
| 21:34.49 | adminewb | if that's a joke, it's lost on me |
| 21:34.56 | dpierce | i found my computer with a blank screen and assumed the monitor had powered it self off, but i found the keyboard unresponsive and the display never came back up. so i rebooted. upon reboot, X is borked and gdm fail to start correctly. |
| 21:35.09 | Nu^253r | its not a jole adminewb im being seriouse |
| 21:35.14 | Nu^253r | serious** |
| 21:36.13 | adminewb | I'm asking for some network routing help, not saying I'm about to flood the channel |
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| 21:37.48 | Nu^253r | i know that adminewb, the bot doesnt think that, so its better to pastebin it |
| 21:37.55 | dpierce | i generated a new xorg.conf and uninstalled the pkg, rm'd /etc/X11 and reinstaelled both X and gdm to no avail. i am very limited in my understanding of X and gdm, so any help at getting a gui back would be appreciated. (even getting a limited framebuffer of sorts is also welcomed). in the meantime, i will happily elnks about the web. |
| 21:38.09 | p0g0 | chenthu: did you sort out your wireless? |
| 21:38.29 | chenthu | p0g0: nope... :) |
| 21:38.47 | p0g0 | chenthu: pm ok? |
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| 21:39.22 | chenthu | p0g0: sure |
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| 21:40.08 | chenthu | sry closed it by mistake |
| 21:40.21 | chenthu | p0g0: sure pm me |
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| 21:42.25 | ws2k3 | are there some problems with some debian mirrors? |
| 21:42.41 | ws2k3 | i wanne install a package with apt-get but i cannot connect to 94.75.223.121 |
| 21:43.08 | ws2k3 | and if i ping it i get response and if i enter it in my browser i get response |
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| 21:45.22 | dandersson | Test another mirror to see if it's a local or remote problem. |
| 21:45.57 | ws2k3 | how should i do that ? |
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| 21:46.06 | ws2k3 | even with apt-get update i get error on some parts |
| 21:46.26 | dpierce | ws2k3: i have problems with the gatech.edu mirrors all the time. |
| 21:46.38 | dandersson | !mirrors |
| 21:46.38 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <geo sources.list>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 21:47.06 | scoobertron | I am trying to get rtorrent to start in a dtach session on boot, as a user. |
| 21:47.08 | dandersson | E.g. change in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:47.30 | ws2k3 | but itr strange that i can wget and ping it from my debian machine |
| 21:47.33 | ws2k3 | but not use apt-get |
| 21:47.34 | scoobertron | for some reason, this doesn't work: @reboot dtach -n ~/rtorrent rtorrent |
| 21:47.49 | scoobertron | works fine from the shell, and I have lots of other @reboot lines working in cron |
| 21:47.53 | scoobertron | any ideas? |
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| 21:49.26 | dandersson | ws2k3: Test another mirror. If problem persists, then it's probably a local problem. If it works, then it probably is a (temporary) configuration problem with the original mirror. |
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| 21:50.07 | dandersson | scoobertron: Do you have other "@reboot detach" lines working in cron? |
| 21:50.38 | dandersson | Otherwise, test with another command to isolate problem to either rtorrent or dtach. |
| 21:50.39 | ws2k3 | had to open ftp port(A) |
| 21:50.54 | ws2k3 | thanks |
| 21:51.17 | scoobertron | dandersson: good idea, I will give that a go. |
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| 21:52.25 | dandersson | Another alternative can be to install it as a service that is started during startup. I can imagine there can be a problem if rtorrent tries to start before network is up. |
| 21:52.53 | dandersson | If you install it as a service, you can make it depend on networking, so it will wait until it is set up before starting. |
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| 21:54.19 | dpic | why does debian install without networking if it isn't plugged in during the install? |
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| 21:54.46 | dpic | now i can't do anything |
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| 21:55.26 | th0r | dpic: I just set up networking after the install, it wasn't that hard |
| 21:55.26 | dvs | dpic: how do you expect Debian to configure your network if you are not connected to it. |
| 21:55.42 | dpic | how do you set it up post install? |
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| 21:56.25 | adminewb | Afaict my routing tables are ok, but a virtualbox host-only network isn't sending packets out as it should. pinging to the host's outgoing interface address times out. Someone can look at this? http://paste.debian.net/124711/ need some ping output? |
| 21:56.27 | dpic | i dunno, the same way fedora and ubuntu does? once oyu plug them in post-install they just connect, don't they? |
| 21:56.51 | dvs | !tell dpic -about networking |
| 21:56.59 | dpic | aha |
| 21:57.35 | dpic | dvs: ifup was not found |
| 21:57.49 | th0r | dpic: are you logged in as root? |
| 21:57.52 | dpic | yes |
| 21:58.01 | dpic | oh nevermind, it works. derp. |
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| 22:03.35 | dpic | nope. i'm confused. it isn't working. and the link that dpkg sent me is down |
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| 22:03.42 | adminewb | "connect: Network is unreachable" error when trying to ping 192.168.0.100 (host's LAN addr) |
| 22:04.31 | adminewb | any reference material pertaining? |
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| 22:06.36 | IamTrying | Where can i put the "vga=791 splash quiet" In my debian i do not have /boot/grub/menu.lst. |
| 22:06.55 | dpic | do i need to change the deffault interfaces for ifup -a to work? |
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| 22:09.26 | dpic | it currently has auto lo, iface lo inet loopback, allow-hotplug eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 22:09.51 | dpic | but i am not conencted |
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| 22:10.14 | dvs | dpic: Do you use DHCP? |
| 22:10.17 | dpic | yes |
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| 22:10.36 | Jayro | hey, whats that package called where its basic devel tools like make and gcc? |
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| 22:10.54 | th0r | dpic: are you using a wired connection? |
| 22:10.59 | dpic | yes |
| 22:11.18 | dvs | dpic: lspci -nn | grep -i eth |
| 22:11.27 | th0r | dpic: what results do ifup eth0 give? |
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| 22:11.59 | Jayro | anyone? |
| 22:12.14 | dpic | ifup eth0 says no such device |
| 22:12.19 | dvs | Jayro: build-essential |
| 22:12.22 | themill | !b-e Jayro |
| 22:12.22 | dpkg | Jayro: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 22:12.24 | Jayro | thanks! |
| 22:12.46 | dpic | lspci brings up broadcom bcm5704 (twice) and intel 82557/8/9/0/1 |
| 22:13.23 | dpic | 14e4:1648 (the broadcom one, and 8086:1229 (the intel one) |
| 22:13.53 | dvs | !14e4:1648 |
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| 22:14.11 | dvs | !pciid 14e4:1648 |
| 22:14.16 | dvs | drat! |
| 22:14.23 | dpic | hm? |
| 22:14.35 | babilen | ,pciid 14e4:1648 |
| 22:14.37 | judd | [14e4:1648] is 'NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'tg3' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:1648 |
| 22:14.47 | dvs | thx |
| 22:14.50 | babilen | np |
| 22:15.12 | babilen | dvs: "judd:" or "," |
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| 22:16.50 | Jayro | I am trying to install the drivers for my Nvidea Geforce 550 TI graphics card, but in the installer its telling me 'The CC version check has failed, kernel compiled with 4.3, current compiler is 4.4). Can anyone help me with this? |
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| 22:18.32 | babilen | Jayro: How are you installing it? |
| 22:18.44 | themill | Jayro: using the debian packages rather than the nvidia installer will always be less pain in the long run |
| 22:19.09 | babilen | !tell Jayro -about nvidia dkms |
| 22:19.13 | IamTrying | Where is my bootloader config file? To edit vga=ask? |
| 22:19.17 | dpic | is there a reason why my interfaces file says allow-hotplug eth0 instead of auto eth0? |
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| 22:22.25 | IamTrying | Is this where we include the kernel parameter? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" |
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| 22:24.02 | dpic | dvs, th0r: this is a clean install. i got this machine from the FSF and they were using it without issues \= |
| 22:24.11 | dvs | IamTrying: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX |
| 22:24.15 | kgoetz | dpic: to allow hotplug |
| 22:24.18 | dpic | in the past, i'd always just reinstalled debian if i'd forgotten to plug it in during the install |
| 22:24.36 | dpic | kgoetz: do i also need the "auto"? |
| 22:24.44 | IamTrying | dvs, vi /etc/default/grub; GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="vga=791 splash quiet" ; update_grub ; init 6; i am doing is this ok? |
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| 22:24.47 | kgoetz | no. |
| 22:25.01 | kgoetz | man 5 interfaces sholud explain it |
| 22:25.03 | dvs | IamTrying: That will only add the option to the default kernel. |
| 22:25.13 | dpic | ok. that's what dpkg when dvs had it explain some stuff to me |
| 22:25.14 | dpierce | anyone wish to help me with my X.org issues stated in the scrollback? |
| 22:25.15 | th0r | dpic: I noticed mention of the tg3 module. I have a dell that on install asked for a tigon/tg3.??? firmware. Since I didn't use the wired interface I didn't pursue it. |
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| 22:25.30 | th0r | dpic: but you may need that to get the interface running |
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| 22:26.23 | dpic | th0r: is that some proprietary firmware? i'm pretty sure the FSF didn't use any of that on it. it even has coreboot |
| 22:26.36 | IamTrying | dvs, ok thank you. Its saying "vga=791" is deprecated |
| 22:27.03 | IamTrying | And now i have freezed splash screen. Debian freezed is it normal? |
| 22:27.06 | dpic | th0r: and i can't install anything without networking.. |
| 22:27.07 | Jayro | babilen, i did what the bot said and now it dosnt go into kde.... |
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| 22:27.29 | th0r | dpic: if you google tigon/tg3.bin you will find several references to it. here is a reference you might check...http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=53939 |
| 22:28.15 | dpic | ,pciid 8086:1229 |
| 22:28.17 | judd | [8086:1229] is '82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'e100' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1229 |
| 22:28.44 | smallchange | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.45 | dpic | th0r: it seems like the intel one should work, right |
| 22:29.52 | dpic | ? |
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| 22:30.01 | IamTrying | Its freezed now in a black screen and not botting anything. |
| 22:31.24 | th0r | dpic: not sure. I recall that on the first of two installs I did find and install tigon/tg3.bin even though I didn't need it. If you can't find it, I can power up the dell and see if it is there. |
| 22:31.27 | IamTrying | Not accepting Esc, Ctrl+alt+double del, nor ctrl+esc .. just freezed dead in black screen saying "Splashy ERROR: timeout (120 sec) .... on the splashy socket" |
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| 22:32.08 | th0r | dpic: here is a site that tells you exactly what to do....http://noviantech.com/blog/2010/06/23/debian-kernels-and-tigon-tg3-firmware/ |
| 22:32.12 | wanabe | hi ^^ |
| 22:32.28 | th0r | dpic: of course, all of this is based on the assumption that this is the root of your problem. |
| 22:33.13 | dpic | th0r: i can't install anything without networking. |
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| 22:33.22 | kristian-aalborg | hi |
| 22:33.26 | dpic | ]= |
| 22:33.52 | dpic | but i don't have to use the broadcom one, i can use the intel one-- |
| 22:33.54 | dpic | ,pciid 8086:1229 |
| 22:33.55 | judd | [8086:1229] is '82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'e100' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1229 |
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| 22:34.01 | kristian-aalborg | I have an old laptop... I'd prefer not to use a traditional hdd in it, as it gets loud |
| 22:34.12 | wanabe | i need help can anyone help me? (with translator) lol |
| 22:34.23 | th0r | dpic: right...I forgot you have more than one nic. |
| 22:34.36 | kristian-aalborg | what I was suggested (and I have thought of this myself) was to install to USB, then boot from a cd with a custom GRUB on it |
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| 22:35.09 | kristian-aalborg | box is old, USB 1.0... 128 megs of ram, 233 mhz etc etc... would this likely work or just be a waste of time? |
| 22:35.12 | dpic | hm, i guess that might require nonfree firmware as well. based on my rookie googling |
| 22:35.30 | dpic | but how can i install that without networking? |
| 22:35.34 | dpic | argh. |
| 22:36.00 | jelly-home | dpic: which debian release are you trying to install? |
| 22:36.01 | th0r | dpic: you should be able to fetch the deb using the computer you are on, then use a usb drive or cd to move it to the other computer |
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| 22:36.32 | wanabe | i need to filter a word within a line in bash. as i do? |
| 22:36.39 | smallchange | dpic: you probably have everything you need to run an Intel NIC |
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| 22:36.51 | dpic | jelly-home: squeeze |
| 22:37.01 | dpic | it's installed, i just have no networking |
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| 22:37.13 | systst | hi, i've a problem with lm-sensors: it displays acpitz-virtual-0 but not other onboard sensors (deb. squeeze) |
| 22:37.15 | dpic | th0r: ah, right, thanks |
| 22:37.22 | th0r | dpic: you can fetch the broadcom firmware from here http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 22:37.31 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell dpic about firmware images |
| 22:37.38 | dpic | is stupid with frustration (been working on getting this set up for days, with other issues before this) |
| 22:37.42 | smallchange | dpic: try cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 22:37.55 | th0r | dpic: do you show an eth in ifconfig? |
| 22:37.57 | smallchange | does it show the intel NIC as eth1? |
| 22:38.09 | dpic | jelly-home: i'm not going to reinstall because i spent days with someone on #coreboot getting debian to work with linux-as-bootloader |
| 22:38.22 | IamTrying | I cant boot to my Debian. Freezed on every reboot shows splashscreen and then dead black screen. Is there bug? |
| 22:38.52 | jelly-home | smallchange, dpic: even e100 driver started to need outside firmware at some point. It's in the same firmware-linux-nonfree package |
| 22:39.00 | dpierce | my /etc/X11 directory only has twm/ and the xorg.conf i moved there. is this because the initial start of X fails and its not generating the files? |
| 22:39.48 | dpierce | if someone could point me in the general direction of where i need to go, i would appreciate it. |
| 22:39.49 | dpic | let me fetch that package and see if that fixes the issue |
| 22:39.52 | Jayro | startx tells me it cannot load the module 'nvidea', can someone help me please? |
| 22:41.14 | th0r | dpic: first things first, see if you have a card working. What does ifconfig say? is there an ethx card there? |
| 22:41.33 | jelly-home | dpic: some drivers need a rmmod/modprobe cycle (or a reboot) after having provided the firmware |
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| 22:41.54 | Jayro | anyone please? |
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| 22:42.04 | dandersson | Jayro: run "sudo modprobe nvidia" and see what it says |
| 22:42.31 | dpic | th0r: ifconfig returns no output |
| 22:42.56 | th0r | dpic: right, then install that deb package and then modprobe tg3, see if you get an ethx card |
| 22:43.21 | Jayro | dandersson, FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/updates/dkms/nvidia.ko): No such device |
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| 22:44.46 | dandersson | Jayro: There you have something to google, at least. |
| 22:44.51 | Jayro | ok |
| 22:44.53 | boudiccas | dpierce; down the corridor last door on the right |
| 22:45.21 | babilen | Jayro: Might be you need a different driver version -- /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 22:46.27 | boudiccas | dpierce; can you log on to your machine and use it? if so, you might get more help from the mailing list |
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| 22:47.43 | dpic | th0r: ifconfig shows lo |
| 22:47.51 | dpic | ifup eth0 still says no suuch device |
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| 22:47.57 | dandersson | Jayro: babilen's suggestion is good. Make sure your card is supported by the installed Nvidia driver. Some older cards need the legacy driver versions. If you have a card not supported by the current driver, it is expected that the driver can't find a (supported) device. |
| 22:48.36 | th0r | dpic: do a modprobe -r tg3, then modprobe tg3, and see if ifconfig shows ethx |
| 22:49.21 | dpierce | boudiccas: i'd love to head down the corridor, but if the monitor keeps flickering like this ill probably be too blind to even stumble. |
| 22:49.40 | dpic | th0r: nope |
| 22:49.57 | dpic | i rebooted and i only see lo |
| 22:50.01 | dpierce | boudiccas: ill try an figure it out a bit on my own, if all else fails ill shoot them a message... or maybe just shoot them :) |
| 22:50.04 | th0r | dpic: check /lib/firmware and make sure there is a tigon folder |
| 22:50.28 | dpic | i'm plugged into the intel one, should i switch to one of the broadcom ones? |
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| 22:50.54 | dpic | th0r: yes there is |
| 22:50.57 | th0r | dpic: yes, the files we have been working with are for the broadcom card |
| 22:51.27 | dpic | the only thing i installed was firmware-linux-nonfree and i thought that was for both cards? |
| 22:51.59 | th0r | dpic: it might be, but I have only been looking for the broadcom info |
| 22:52.27 | dpic | ok, well it's plugged in there now, no change |
| 22:52.50 | th0r | dpic: the cable shouldn't make a diff at this point. We are still trying to get the card recognized. |
| 22:53.26 | dpierce | boudiccas: do the X Strike Force guys have a ML, should i fire it off to bugs? |
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| 22:53.51 | jelly-home | !debian-x |
| 22:53.52 | dpkg | The "X Strike Force" takes care of packaging <X.Org> for Debian. http://lists.debian.org/debian-x http://x.debian.net/ #debian-x on irc.oftc.net. See also <xorg config>, <xrandr>. |
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| 22:54.21 | dpierce | +1 karma jelly |
| 22:54.26 | dpic | th0r: yeah. this is strange |
| 22:54.41 | th0r | dpic: give me a minute...checking into something |
| 22:54.50 | dpic | th0r: okay, thanks so much |
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| 22:56.10 | smallchange | dpic: you need to know which ethernet card is recognized and associated with which interface. That info is in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 22:57.48 | th0r | dpic: been reading some more. Looks like we are on the right track with the tg3 module. There is one site that talks about setting up aliases for the cards...simple lines...here is the url...http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/HP-server-Broadcom-Corporation-NetXtreme-BCM5704-Gigabit-Eth--ftopict383819.html |
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| 22:58.11 | dpic | smallchange: the broadcoms seems to be eth1 and eth2 and the intel seems to be eth3 |
| 22:58.18 | boudiccas | dpierce; no idea, i only know about the debian ML because i joined this morning |
| 22:58.33 | dpic | smallchange: there's something (forcedeath) which is eth0 |
| 23:00.49 | dpic | (forcedeth)* |
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| 23:02.52 | smallchange | dpic: plug the cable into the Intel NIC. Edit /etc/network/interfaces and replace eth0 with eth3. run ifup eth3 |
| 23:03.22 | dpierce | boudiccas: i subscribe to several of them just out of curiosity for the current state of debian. they seem bus enough so, ill probably do that as a _last_ resort. |
| 23:03.36 | dpierce | s/bus/busy |
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| 23:04.29 | boudiccas | dpierce; fair enough |
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| 23:05.50 | dpic | smallchange: you're a hero! th0r, thanks for the firmware help! |
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| 23:06.27 | th0r | smallchange: take a cookie out of petty cash |
| 23:06.49 | smallchange | dpic: you should now install the firmware and add entries to interfaces for the other 2 interfaces. they should all work |
| 23:08.30 | dpic | smallchange: thanks. another issue now is that running apt-get update says the signatuures for ftp.us.debian.org are invalid/expired |
| 23:09.19 | smallchange | dpic: try aptitude install debian-archive-keyring |
| 23:09.24 | boudiccas | dpic; choose another mirror |
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| 23:10.53 | dpic | smallchange: 0 packages to install |
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| 23:11.26 | abrotman | dpic: choose a mirror closer to you |
| 23:11.33 | abrotman | debian.org/mirrors/list |
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| 23:12.18 | dym | abrotman: the one on the hallway? (: |
| 23:12.31 | dym | in* |
| 23:12.36 | abrotman | if that's the closest one .. that'd work |
| 23:12.47 | dym | doubt apt would like it :| |
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| 23:21.23 | MobileMe | Hi, I'd like some advice about why my debian lappy just won't connect to some routers to which other boxes can simply connect. I had tried almost everything I could think of. Using Debian 64 bit on a Vostro 1310 laptop, WL iface is a Broadcom 4312. |
| 23:22.39 | max_sharpe | what kind of routers are you having problems connecting to? |
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| 23:23.36 | abrotman | MobileMe: honestly, i'd blame broadcom |
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| 23:24.29 | dym | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.37 | dym | dodgy crap |
| 23:25.16 | abrotman | MobileMe: what is your current kernel? uname -r? |
| 23:25.56 | MobileMe | max_sharpe: wireless routers in general, i don't know the branding of this particular one. |
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| 23:26.41 | MobileMe | abrotman: just a second |
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| 23:29.06 | max_sharpe | oh okay |
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| 23:29.28 | max_sharpe | hmmmm your wireless card is set to what broadband set and what were the routers on |
| 23:29.41 | max_sharpe | maybe the routers were all on a your card was only doing b? |
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| 23:29.54 | MobileMe | abrotman: 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 23:30.15 | abrotman | MobileMe: is there anything in common with those routers that don't work |
| 23:30.16 | abrotman | ? |
| 23:31.03 | MobileMe | max_sharpe: not that I can think of... my android phone can connect perfectly to them.. |
| 23:31.24 | max_sharpe | hmmmm. |
| 23:31.29 | max_sharpe | all dhcp? |
| 23:31.38 | max_sharpe | no passwords or passwords you had? |
| 23:31.49 | max_sharpe | all the same wep or wpa configs? |
| 23:31.58 | max_sharpe | no mac address blocking? |
| 23:32.23 | max_sharpe | can you even see the in question routers ssid ? |
| 23:32.35 | MobileMe | abrotman: not that I know, but I did not configure them |
| 23:33.01 | abrotman | really blames the driver |
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| 23:33.31 | MobileMe | max_sharpe: everything is okay with the setup, as said, I can connect from other devices with the same setup |
| 23:33.45 | max_sharpe | hmmmm. |
| 23:34.11 | th0r | MobileMe: do the problem wifi systems use wpa? |
| 23:34.48 | MobileMe | abrotman: I was to the point of capturing the handshake data with tcpdump, unfortunately I was unable to do so |
| 23:35.03 | abrotman | MobileMe: do you ahve another wifi card you can test with ? |
| 23:35.10 | MobileMe | th0r: yes |
| 23:35.50 | MobileMe | abrotman: unfortunately not with the debian box |
| 23:35.56 | th0r | MobileMe: I have run into problems with some of my wifi hubs with wpa in linux. I finally gave up and went to mac address filtering and disabling ssid broadcast. |
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| 23:36.29 | th0r | MobileMe: I would sure be curious to find out if turning off wpa allowed you in...just to see if it worked |
| 23:37.14 | max_sharpe | i would probably disable all security on the router and disable all the security settings on the laptop to see if it connected. |
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| 23:37.58 | th0r | MobileMe: I would also be tempted to remove network-mangler and install wicd...it seems to handle wifi better |
| 23:38.00 | MobileMe | th0r: well, just for your concern, mac filtering is not a good workaround since macs can be spoofen, but this is a hotel router, I do not manage it |
| 23:38.30 | th0r | MobileMe: I didn't say it was a good solution...just that it was a solution that finally allowed me to connect the linux box to the router <smile> |
| 23:38.37 | MobileMe | th0r: already has tried wicd, no success at all |
| 23:38.42 | max_sharpe | ohhh its not your router okay |
| 23:39.22 | MobileMe | th0r: sure, just wanted to make sure you were aware of the security risks implied :) |
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| 23:41.49 | vlad | Hi all. I'm trying connect to my server with Remmina and identity file. After double click on server Remmina says "SSH public key authentication failed: Public key file doesn't exist". Why? Identity file is not public key. What public key wants Remmina? |
| 23:42.15 | MobileMe | abrotman: I guess changing the driver is not an option (neither is changing the OS ;) ). Any other advice? |
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| 23:42.49 | abrotman | MobileMe: test with another device ... |
| 23:43.00 | abrotman | MobileMe: i realize you may not be able to do this right now |
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| 23:43.15 | abrotman | MobileMe: lspci -nn | grep Broad .. what is the actual device? |
| 23:43.28 | MobileMe | abrotman: you mean another nic or another router? |
| 23:43.39 | abrotman | another NIC |
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| 23:45.41 | MobileMe | abrotman: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) |
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| 23:53.44 | th0r | MobileMe just checking, you did install the b43 firmware for that card, right? |
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| 23:53.54 | MobileMe_ | abrotman: I had just reconnected, have you said anything after I told you the NIC model |
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| 23:54.51 | th0r | MobileMe_: just checking, you did install the b43 firmware for that card, right? |
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| 23:56.06 | MobileMe_ | th0r: yes |
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| 23:57.21 | th0r | MobileMe_: I have a vested interest in your problem. I have exactly the same card in this netbook and haven't yet had to use wpa <smile> |
| 23:58.14 | abrotman | MobileMe_: is'nt that supposed to be the wl driver? |
| 23:58.20 | abrotman | !bcm4315 |
| 23:58.21 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4312 (PCI ID 14e4:4315) is a PCI-E 802.11g wireless LAN chipset with a low-power PHY, supported by <b43> as of Linux 2.6.32. Firmware is required, ask me about <contrib> and install the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package to provide. Lenny users, see <bcm4312 lenny>. Alternatively supported by <wl>. PCI ID 14e4:4312 uses a BCM4311 chipset, requiring firmware-b43-installer. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx |
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| 23:58.34 | abrotman | MobileMe_: well, you could try the wl driver if oyu're using the b43 |
| 23:59.30 | Sleep_Walker | I'm not sure |
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| 23:59.59 | Sleep_Walker | where to report it, but debian-ports armhf debootstrap fails as there is no libc6 |
