| 00:00.15 | MobileMe_ | abrotman: I'll give it a try, thanks for the advice, unfortunatelly I can't try it now, sine the debian box has no connectivity |
| 00:00.24 | abrotman | ok |
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| 00:00.48 | abrotman | Sleep_Walker: say again? |
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| 00:01.30 | Sleep_Walker | running debootstrap of armhf port from debian-ports.org fails on libc6 download |
| 00:01.39 | th0r | MobileMe_: just passing this on for your information....http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/HOW_TO_install_the_Broadcom_bcm43xx_Driver_in_Debian_Linux_and_enable_WPA_Encryption |
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| 00:01.45 | dimm0k | anyone know how to get pm-utils to set this to true? Running hook /usr/lib64/pm-utils/power.d/disable_wol false: |
| 00:01.48 | dimm0k | or any of the other hooks for that matter? everything gets passed false, but i want some to be true |
| 00:02.02 | MobileMe_ | what are the differences about b43 and the wl drivers? |
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| 00:03.24 | Sleep_Walker | ftp.de.debian.org/debian-ports mirror seems to work for me |
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| 00:06.42 | th0r | MobileMe_: reading that link I just sent. Did you set up /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf? |
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| 00:15.04 | DexterF | does lenny with latest updates support ext4 at all? |
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| 00:15.37 | DexterF | nvm wiki got it; nope |
| 00:16.23 | project2501b | DexterF: Plans for ext4 on next communist 5 year plan |
| 00:16.33 | project2501b | DexterF: (yeah it does0 |
| 00:17.37 | DexterF | it does? why cant I boot this sucker then... |
| 00:17.54 | project2501b | did you use grub2? |
| 00:17.59 | project2501b | or grub-legacy? |
| 00:18.03 | DexterF | I migrated to a new disk, copied the OS over manually. grub2. |
| 00:18.12 | project2501b | whut? |
| 00:18.19 | project2501b | how did you copy it? |
| 00:18.45 | DexterF | well, mount root and newdiskroot, cp -a evrything over |
| 00:18.58 | project2501b | *facepalm* |
| 00:19.05 | DexterF | what? |
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| 00:19.15 | project2501b | you are doing this wrong |
| 00:19.17 | DexterF | I reinstalled grub from that.. |
| 00:19.22 | DexterF | whats the name |
| 00:19.51 | DexterF | that rescue disc |
| 00:19.52 | project2501b | did you chroot into newdiskroot ? |
| 00:20.05 | project2501b | dude. seriously |
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| 00:20.07 | project2501b | just re-install |
| 00:20.19 | project2501b | then mount the old disk, and copy what you need from there. |
| 00:20.47 | DexterF | http://www.supergrubdisk.org/category/download/rescatuxdownloads/ |
| 00:20.56 | DexterF | ^ that the one. reinstalled grub from that |
| 00:21.18 | DexterF | grub comes up ok, but it uses uuid and of course has the old uuid |
| 00:21.29 | project2501b | so, make a new uuid |
| 00:21.32 | DexterF | tried to point it at the partition manually |
| 00:21.39 | project2501b | or set grub to use the old uui |
| 00:21.40 | project2501b | d |
| 00:21.55 | DexterF | the new disk is in |
| 00:22.01 | DexterF | so I need grub to use the new uuid |
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| 00:23.18 | DexterF | grub sees the config so it must be able to read the partition |
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| 00:25.01 | DexterF | project2501b: hey, I got / mounted and I can chroot there - now simpy reinstall grub? |
| 00:25.20 | DexterF | and how can I get the uuid of that partition? |
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| 00:27.45 | project2501b | DexterF: it comes with the partition when you format it |
| 00:27.52 | DexterF | well - too late |
| 00:27.54 | project2501b | you can also generate it with the fstune thignies |
| 00:27.55 | project2501b | also |
| 00:28.01 | project2501b | before you chroom |
| 00:28.04 | project2501b | before you chroot |
| 00:28.08 | DexterF | blkid! |
| 00:28.33 | project2501b | make sure you mount --bind /proc and /dev into your new setup |
| 00:28.38 | project2501b | then chroom |
| 00:28.42 | project2501b | kicks sauvin |
| 00:28.51 | project2501b | ok |
| 00:29.02 | project2501b | i'm gonna go to sleep |
| 00:29.05 | project2501b | ramadaan kareem |
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| 00:32.03 | sauvin | ate lots of beans and now makes a point to sit right next to project2501b |
| 00:32.40 | FFForever | Is there anything like ksplice but available for new debian systems? It appears that ksplice does not accept new customers and installing it manually would require an access key which I cannot obtain |
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| 00:35.04 | kgoetz | FFForever: apt-get install it? |
| 00:35.20 | kgoetz | judd: versions ksplice |
| 00:35.20 | judd | Package ksplice on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.9-3; sid: 0.9.9-4; wheezy: 0.9.9-4 |
| 00:36.21 | FFForever | kgoetz, http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/install |
| 00:36.42 | kgoetz | FFForever: and? |
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| 00:37.29 | kgoetz | FFForever: ksplice /is in debian/, why are you trying to get it from somewhere else? (soewhere that doesnt want you to get it...) |
| 00:38.52 | FFForever | I assume by installing ksplice from the repo I won't get the updates/fixes automatically without creating the manual patch myself |
| 00:43.53 | kgoetz | i've not used that part, so i can't comment. |
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| 00:49.06 | boudiccas | Theres probably a very simple answer to this but i'm too tired to see it, but how do I get the url here....... A taste of linux http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/index.html ........ to be a clickable link please in a flat text file? |
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| 00:52.36 | abrotman | boudiccas: then it wouldn't be a simple text file ... |
| 00:53.39 | boudiccas | abrotman; its for my signature.txt file for kmail and knode. i know it can be done but i cant remember how |
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| 00:55.01 | kgoetz | boudiccas: unless kmail does html mail, you can't |
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| 00:55.15 | boudiccas | kgoetz; yes, kmail does |
| 00:55.18 | kgoetz | boudiccas: if it does, wrap it in <a href .../> like a normal link |
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| 00:55.27 | kgoetz | it migth be silly enough to process html in random files :) |
| 00:56.11 | abrotman | boudiccas: if it's going to be an HTML email, you just put the <a></a> tags around it IIRC |
| 00:57.59 | boudiccas | abrotman; no, its not for html mail, i dont send any of them, just plain old text emails with my sig on the end being called from this file, signature txt |
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| 00:58.31 | abrotman | boudiccas: then it can't be clickable unless the recipient |
| 00:58.37 | abrotman | boudiccas: then it can't be clickable unless the recipient's client does it magically |
| 00:58.44 | boudiccas | hmm |
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| 00:59.21 | Raptors | configure: error: Cannot find xcb-aux |
| 00:59.26 | Raptors | What package is that? |
| 00:59.43 | Raptors | I install libxcb-aux0 but its still giving me that error |
| 01:00.03 | kgoetz | Raptors: search with packages.debian.org |
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| 01:11.06 | gh0st3r | my debian box is getting stuck on "waiting for headers" when doing an apt-get |
| 01:11.17 | gh0st3r | any ideas on how to fix or troubleshoot? |
| 01:12.26 | kgoetz | gh0st3r: are you dual stacked? |
| 01:13.10 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 01:13.28 | abrotman | gh0st3r: hit ctrl-c .. try again .. if it keeps happening, you can try another mirror perhaps |
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| 01:24.15 | freeminds | does anyone know why the tool "bitmap" doesn't work for me? I can't draw anything |
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| 01:24.32 | gh0st3r | kgoetz, i am dual stacked... |
| 01:24.42 | gh0st3r | abrotman, tried a few mirrors |
| 01:24.57 | max_sharpe | does dual stacked mean you have 4 boobs |
| 01:25.11 | gh0st3r | ipv4 and ipv6 |
| 01:25.11 | gh0st3r | ;p |
| 01:25.37 | kgoetz | gh0st3r: its probably trying v6, fialing for some reason then falling back |
| 01:25.57 | abrotman | max_sharpe: your sense of humor sucks |
| 01:26.07 | max_sharpe | i know |
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| 01:27.17 | DarkEyes | http://pastebin.com/Q5fXVgS9 How can I get this script to continue after the ftp quit command |
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| 01:28.39 | gh0st3r | kgoetz, just done a echo "blacklist ipv6" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist then rebooted the box and still not working |
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| 01:29.43 | jhutchins_lt | !noipv6 |
| 01:29.44 | dpkg | To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for this change to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
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| 01:30.47 | smallchange | DarkEyes: end the here document after the quit |
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| 01:32.15 | gh0st3r | kgoetz, disabled ipv6... both ways |
| 01:32.20 | gh0st3r | I'm still not getting anything from apt-get |
| 01:33.16 | jhutchins_lt | gh0st3r: |
| 01:33.34 | gh0st3r | yeap? |
| 01:33.56 | jhutchins_lt | gh0st3r: Can you ping IP's? can you ping hostnames? |
| 01:34.04 | gh0st3r | networking is all working |
| 01:34.14 | gh0st3r | check : http://pastebin.com/uAzW7szs |
| 01:34.16 | jhutchins_lt | gh0st3r: That's not what I asked. |
| 01:34.23 | gh0st3r | oh wait |
| 01:34.27 | gh0st3r | http://pastebin.com/uAzW7szs |
| 01:34.39 | gh0st3r | can ping ip's, ping dns, telnet to port 80 on an external webserver |
| 01:35.43 | jhutchins_lt | Not spotting it, probably a syntax error in the sources.list |
| 01:35.48 | jhutchins_lt | !sources.list |
| 01:35.48 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
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| 01:37.26 | gh0st3r | so if i change my apt sources.list to: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
| 01:37.33 | gh0st3r | I'm still getting the error |
| 01:39.57 | gh0st3r | seriously out of ideas here |
| 01:40.40 | kgoetz | gh0st3r: how long have you left it, does it time out eventually? |
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| 01:42.45 | smallchange | gh0st3r: remove contrib and non-free from the security line and try it. |
| 01:42.58 | gh0st3r | smallchange im just trying with ftp.debian.org lenny main |
| 01:43.02 | DexterF | how do I make a new init ram disk with ext4? |
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| 01:43.13 | aaronth | missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon |
| 01:43.17 | aaronth | that is my problem |
| 01:43.41 | DexterF | I moved / to ext4 but on booting it stops as "local-premount" saying cannot mount /dev/sda1 on EXT3-fs due to missign features |
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| 01:44.03 | DexterF | i can mount it from squashfs tho and chroot |
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| 01:46.02 | gh0st3r | kgoetz, it doesn't seem to timeout |
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| 01:50.50 | aaronth | I've tried to run gconf-editor and such and it gets me that out put |
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| 02:01.10 | sixyearsofdreams | is there anyway i can view a website view the public address on my debian webserver |
| 02:02.24 | nevyn | tor? maybe |
| 02:02.45 | sixyearsofdreams | editing wordpress through tor is just ridiculas its slow |
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| 02:05.45 | aaronth | i think i messed up with compiz |
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| 02:07.37 | aaronth | anybody |
| 02:07.39 | aaronth | ? |
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| 02:09.51 | ham5 | !anyone |
| 02:09.51 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 02:15.43 | dpierce | so i got X to kinda work. now i get this: http://paste.debian.net/124727 |
| 02:15.48 | dpierce | any ideas? |
| 02:17.34 | ham5 | report the installed version of the "xfree86-common" |
| 02:18.13 | ham5 | actually get a x desktop? |
| 02:19.03 | dpierce | i get x but i can only get a "failsafe terminal" from gdm |
| 02:19.19 | dpierce | wont load a wm. not even tmw |
| 02:19.30 | kgoetz | xfree86-common? |
| 02:19.40 | ham5 | .. |
| 02:21.33 | dpierce | i dont have that on the system if that is what you are asking. |
| 02:21.37 | dpierce | not that i know of anyway. |
| 02:21.43 | dpierce | :-/ |
| 02:21.51 | abrotman | dpierce: is the xorg package installed? which version is it? |
| 02:22.20 | dpierce | abrotman: 1.7.7 |
| 02:22.43 | dpierce | that is the ouput from Xorg -version |
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| 02:23.00 | abrotman | not what i asked |
| 02:24.02 | aaronth | i have something wrong with dbus |
| 02:25.33 | ham5 | ,versions xorg |
| 02:25.34 | judd | Package xorg on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.3+20; squeeze: 1:7.5+8; sid: 1:7.6+7; wheezy: 1:7.6+7 |
| 02:25.37 | dpierce | abrotman: 1:7.5+8? |
| 02:27.00 | aaronth | when i type gconf-editor it comes up with that error |
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| 02:48.57 | abrotman | aarboo |
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| 03:08.25 | faca | hi all |
| 03:08.43 | faca | howto make cp -a / but excluding one or two directories ? |
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| 03:10.21 | faca | howto make cp -a / but excluding one or two directory ? |
| 03:10.44 | faca | i need create VMware image the my server... |
| 03:10.56 | ham5 | how bout mv those two directory out, then cp and mv back? |
| 03:11.29 | faca | no |
| 03:11.44 | faca | ham5, y need create (in one file) clone the '/' |
| 03:12.00 | faca | but?. in var/cache all erase date, i need exclude this dir |
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| 03:12.22 | ham5 | your doing it wrong |
| 03:12.32 | ham5 | but good luck |
| 03:13.21 | faca | ham5, ??? |
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| 03:16.23 | abrotman | faca: why do you want to exclude two? |
| 03:17.48 | ham5 | tryin to make a vm from a current os |
| 03:17.52 | ham5 | sounds like to me |
| 03:18.01 | ham5 | with cp ;\ |
| 03:18.55 | faca | abrotman, but in some directories i have shit |
| 03:19.28 | abrotman | so remove those dirs after you do the cp |
| 03:21.30 | faca | not, but this dir is 5gb and i try ftp download... |
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| 03:22.04 | faca | I do not want to move it ftp.. |
| 03:22.09 | faca | sorry |
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| 03:50.34 | unomi | Hi, how could I go about upgrading an i686 version to _64 on a capable system? |
| 03:50.57 | rww | reinstall? |
| 03:51.20 | unomi | :/ |
| 03:51.23 | abrotman | unomi: you have to reinstall the OS currently, this may change in the future |
| 03:51.31 | unomi | cheers abrotman |
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| 03:53.12 | unomi | it naively seems like it could be handled much in the same way as a dist-upgrade, no? |
| 03:53.20 | rww | no |
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| 03:54.39 | abrotman | unomi: there are trickier ways to do it .. but in reality, the reinstall is the best way currently |
| 03:54.52 | unomi | ok |
| 03:55.12 | unomi | slightly offtopic |
| 03:55.39 | unomi | I am having a conflict of heart here |
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| 03:55.45 | adminewb | Here's what looks like a routing problem, using the host-only network adapter for a virtualbox 4.1.0 vm; please have a look http://paste.debian.net/124731/ ? pinging the modem upstream loses all packets. |
| 03:56.21 | unomi | long story, shortened, OpenBSD -> Debian -> Ubuntu -> ?! |
| 03:57.37 | unomi | ubuntu is really starting to feel heavier than I need, but I am now addicted to semi-recent packages and 3rd party one-click installers |
| 03:57.44 | abrotman | huh? |
| 03:57.54 | abrotman | unomi: have you seen backports.debian.org ? |
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| 03:58.16 | adubz | how would i specify with one command ifconfig wlan and eth |
| 03:58.17 | abrotman | unomi: you can backport lots of stuff yourself also .. |
| 03:58.36 | adminewb | pinging from the guest, I should say |
| 03:58.40 | nevyn | adubz: ip addr |
| 03:58.40 | abrotman | and squeeze packages aren't that old anyway |
| 03:58.44 | unomi | abrotman: nod, that is probably one of the more satisfying routes |
| 03:58.54 | unomi | any comment on Arch? |
| 03:58.59 | abrotman | nope, this is #debian |
| 03:59.06 | unomi | fair enough |
| 03:59.14 | nevyn | which arch isn't. |
| 03:59.24 | adubz | that gives everything i could do ifconfig -a |
| 03:59.45 | adubz | i only want ot display either that or that one command |
| 04:00.12 | adubz | ifconfig eth or wlan |
| 04:00.19 | nevyn | or or and? |
| 04:00.21 | adubz | eth and wlan |
| 04:00.29 | adubz | maybe there is not a way |
| 04:00.38 | nevyn | adubz: I'm sure there's a way |
| 04:00.41 | adubz | either or whatever can only display just those two |
| 04:00.43 | nevyn | what's the info you really want? |
| 04:00.43 | adubz | me either |
| 04:00.53 | adubz | ifconfig wlan; ifconfig eth |
| 04:00.55 | oobe | there is a quick way to search for certain files inside the repsository i.e SDL.h but I forgot it anyone know what I'm talking about |
| 04:00.59 | adubz | would do it but is two commands |
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| 04:01.45 | abrotman | !tell oobe about apt-file |
| 04:02.03 | nevyn | adubz: you really should be using ip rather than ifconfig these days. it's closer to the metal ifconfig can't represent some valid network configurations |
| 04:02.15 | oobe | thanks abrotman thats exactly what Im looking for |
| 04:03.39 | adubz | how about grepping for two different strings |
| 04:04.10 | adminewb | Could someone check this for net route misconfig? Failing to get pings routed from in a vm through host-only network adapter to the host's internet feed; http://paste.debian.net/124731/ |
| 04:04.12 | abrotman | adubz: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=14&gs_id=28&xhr=t&q=grep+for+two+strings&pf=p&sclient=psy&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=grep+for+two+s&aq=0&aqi=g3g-v1g-j1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=b8901692fe56d969&biw=1654&bih=795 |
| 04:04.16 | abrotman | wow .. ugly .. |
| 04:04.44 | abrotman | adubz: in short ... grep 'foo1|foo2' file |
| 04:04.55 | adminewb | grep "string1\|string2" <- like that? |
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| 04:11.53 | Rusty1 | adminewb: there is of course a #vbox channel , maybe more help there? |
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| 04:14.28 | wols | adminewb: host only networking only allows you to access the host, not the hosts internet feed. for that you need NAT or bridged |
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| 04:18.36 | adminewb | wols thanks, but I'd expect host-only traffic would still be routeable somehow |
| 04:19.01 | adminewb | Rusty1, not so far |
| 04:21.33 | wols | you mean you can't even access the host itself? |
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| 04:21.55 | adminewb | yes I can ping the host directly on its host-only i/f address |
| 04:22.09 | adminewb | so far can't get beyond that to the modem, for instance |
| 04:22.22 | wols | and you cann access host services like ssh? |
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| 04:22.39 | adminewb | hmm never tried to setup ssh service |
| 04:22.59 | wols | and that# show it should be. host only means that: host ONLY. not "Host Subnet" or such. |
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| 04:26.07 | adubz | is there a way to only output the exact thing we are grepping for?? |
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| 04:27.46 | xio30 | can anybody confirm that debian 6.0's default kernel is linux-libre ? |
| 04:29.10 | kgoetz | its not.its linux patched |
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| 04:30.55 | xio30 | k- thanks |
| 04:31.15 | wols | kgoetz: how is it not libre? |
| 04:31.23 | wols | what kind of "libre" meaning do you use gthere? |
| 04:31.37 | wols | xio30: it is libre, no even (non-free) firmware in it |
| 04:32.28 | kgoetz | wols: there is a fsf 'linux-libre' project, i assume xio30 is refering to it. |
| 04:32.29 | xio30 | i'm sorry. are you saying it is linux-libre with some patches applied or it is linus's kernel with patches applied? i know debian has linux-libre available. |
| 04:32.56 | kgoetz | wols: and debian uses kernel.org tarballs and modifies them |
| 04:33.13 | xio30 | what i'm trying to find out (and couldn't from the documentation thus far) is which kernel is the default |
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| 04:33.38 | wols | yes debian does, but what parts of it are not "libre"? especially after the non-free firmware is all gone, unlike the kernel.org tarball |
| 04:34.08 | xio30 | what i'm reading suggests debian switched in 6.0 although i think the way it is worded in several places it is simply available and not the default |
| 04:34.19 | wols | xio30: there is no special "Libre" kernel. there is only one debian kernel which has no non-free source code or firmware in it |
| 04:34.31 | wols | it is the default |
| 04:34.42 | rww | xio30: Debian's default kernel does not contain non-free firmware. |
| 04:35.09 | wols | xio30: debian has a single kernel source for all kernels. this source has the firmware bits which are non-free stripped |
| 04:35.16 | kgoetz | wols: iirc there was a single mightbe file debian and linux-libre treated differently, plus linux-libre disables the firmware load mechanism on a number of drivers (with only proprietary modules to be loaded) |
| 04:35.31 | kgoetz | s/mightbe/ might be poprietary/ |
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| 04:36.45 | xio30 | ok- i'm trying to figure out how to word something. "Linux-libre is a derivative of the Linux kernel without any proprietary components. A few well known distributions already include it such as: Trisquel, Debian, and gNewSense (in a less maintained state), amongst others." is that technically correct? |
| 04:37.24 | kgoetz | no. debian includes a libre kenrel which is not linux-libre |
| 04:37.31 | xio30 | aww ok |
| 04:37.33 | wols | I'd say yes, but you are asking about a legal question |
| 04:37.52 | wols | kgoetz: so tell me the proprietary components? |
| 04:38.16 | wols | kgoetz:he defined "linux libre" in his statement and I can't see debian violating that definition |
| 04:38.24 | xio30 | what is the difference between linux-libre kernel and the debian kernel without the proprietary firmware? |
| 04:38.25 | sickgut | !tell sickgut about apt-file |
| 04:39.00 | wols | xio30: the question is, what makes linux libre more free than the default kernel? |
| 04:39.04 | kgoetz | wols: he is refering to http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/ |
| 04:39.06 | xio30 | is it that linux-libre prevents the loading of certain non-free drivers/firmware and the debian kernel just doesn't include them although will load them if present? |
| 04:39.13 | kgoetz | dpkg: tell sickgut about selftell |
| 04:39.36 | wols | xio30: yes, debian kernels will load present non-free firmware |
| 04:39.45 | xio30 | i know the fsf and other are more stringent about these little differences |
| 04:40.00 | wols | but it is shipped without them by default |
| 04:40.08 | xio30 | linux-libre won't load certain non-free firmware components |
| 04:40.08 | kgoetz | xio30: thats correct |
| 04:40.13 | kgoetz | ttbomk, of course |
| 04:40.16 | xio30 | ok- great |
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| 04:41.45 | xio30 | "Linux-libre is a derivative of the Linux kernel without any proprietary components. A few well known distributions already include it or a similar free kernel. These include: Debian, Trisquel, gNewSense (in a less maintained state), amongst others." |
| 04:42.34 | sickgut | do i have to apt get the libre kernel tp run it? |
| 04:42.38 | sickgut | to |
| 04:43.48 | k-man | I tried to install some crappy HP supplied .deb which of course failed, but now I can't remove it. I get this error: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. |
| 04:43.57 | kgoetz | xio30: this is offtopic, but ftr anything on http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html should use linux-libre, or an otherwise libre linux :) |
| 04:44.00 | k-man | any ideas how I can fix this? |
| 04:44.04 | kgoetz | xio30: and gl with your document |
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| 04:44.55 | xio30 | thanks - :) it's actually an advertisement of sorts with a little pro-advocacy in it |
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| 05:06.36 | aminpy | is there a command to rename all files or folder with "amin" name to "aminpy" in folder/ ? |
| 05:07.01 | ham5 | sure is |
| 05:07.06 | ham5 | bet your next question is what is it... |
| 05:07.13 | aminpy | :D |
| 05:07.14 | ham5 | to bad |
| 05:07.20 | ham5 | should of asked that first |
| 05:07.47 | ham5 | hint: find |
| 05:08.32 | aminpy | hint =)) |
| 05:09.03 | aminpy | ham5, thanks teacher for hint |
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| 05:13.27 | babilen | aminpy: rename is worth a look |
| 05:14.11 | ham5 | oh comeon rename, thats to easy, who woulda even thought of that. |
| 05:14.40 | babilen | I? |
| 05:15.04 | babilen | It is a powerful tool and probably excactly what aminpy wants. |
| 05:15.57 | ham5 | but surly if a guy wants to rename files hes going to try rename right? im sure aminpy did before he even came in to ask his q. |
| 05:17.12 | babilen | I am not sure about that, which is why I mentioned the tool. |
| 05:18.53 | ham5 | irc sarcasm is hard |
| 05:19.24 | babilen | ham5 "man rename" please -- There are also some other rename related tools |
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| 05:20.14 | babilen | ham5: I have the feeling you have no idea what I am talking about and assume that by "rename" I am talking about a generic "rename" click&point command. I can assure you that no sarcasm was involved. |
| 05:20.43 | ham5 | thanks, got it, thats why i didnt go with the obvoius, and said find, I was the one being sarcastic... that is why its hard |
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| 05:21.33 | babilen | ham5: So use emoticons and or </sarcasm> or something like this to denote it. /me off |
| 05:21.48 | ham5 | lol k |
| 05:22.03 | ham5 | >>;] |
| 05:22.19 | nsadmin | why does lol rhyme with ball? |
| 05:22.59 | nsadmin | what I really want to know is how do I find out if my video needs firmware and how to find/get it |
| 05:23.56 | ham5 | firmware for a video? |
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| 05:24.25 | ham5 | mabey you mean codec, there is a program called mediainfo... mabey this is what you need. |
| 05:24.49 | nsadmin | 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200] [1002:9712] |
| 05:25.03 | ham5 | gpu: GeForce 8800 GTS (G80) 320Mb @ 2560 x 1024rez -xserver v1.10.2.902- |nVidia module v280.11 |
| 05:25.17 | nsadmin | , pciid [1002:9712] |
| 05:25.19 | judd | [1002:9712] is 'M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'radeon' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:9712 http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and the out-of-tree 'fglrx', 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 05:25.41 | nsadmin | plus, which core is that? |
| 05:26.02 | nsadmin | that video |
| 05:26.30 | babilen | nsadmin: You most likely need firmware-linux-nonfree if you use the radeon driver. No firmware for fglrx needed though. |
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| 05:26.47 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 05:28.18 | nsadmin | ok, didn't have that, I'll try restarting now and see what happens |
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| 05:50.31 | nsadmin | , file bin/glxgears |
| 05:50.34 | judd | bin/glxgears in squeeze/i386: mesa-utils: usr/bin/glxgears |
| 05:52.15 | nsadmin | hmm. 42 fps |
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| 05:59.04 | Viliny | where can i check system temperature? |
| 05:59.15 | Viliny | lm-sensors is installed but i can't run it with that command |
| 05:59.26 | ham5 | just run sensors |
| 06:00.08 | ham5 | you have ran sensors-detect? |
| 06:01.41 | Viliny | ah thank you |
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| 06:05.54 | lamah | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
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| 06:06.06 | lamah | W: Duplicate sources.list entry |
| 06:06.19 | lamah | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.22 | lamah | how to fix that ? |
| 06:06.29 | nsadmin | E: not self explanitory? |
| 06:06.32 | ham5 | uhh.. lol |
| 06:07.06 | nsadmin | IT TELLS YOU IN THE MESSAGE. when you read, it's helpful if you also try to understand. |
| 06:07.24 | ham5 | reading... whats that? |
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| 06:07.59 | lamah | who can help |
| 06:08.12 | nsadmin | not your mind |
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| 06:08.49 | nsadmin | well, not unless you try to think |
| 06:09.09 | nsadmin | okok, |
| 06:09.44 | nsadmin | the second one, W: Duplicate sources.list entry |
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| 06:10.14 | nsadmin | maybe you don't know where the sources are. it's in /etc/apt |
| 06:10.19 | lamah | nsadmin: i don't have duplicate lines in sources.list |
| 06:10.34 | lamah | hah:) |
| 06:10.39 | nsadmin | maybe in sources.list.d |
| 06:10.57 | lamah | sources.list directory is empty |
| 06:11.04 | nsadmin | hmm. |
| 06:11.14 | nsadmin | ok, try aptitude update |
| 06:12.00 | lamah | nsadmin: it updates ok, but can i wgetpaste you my sources.list ? |
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| 06:12.49 | nsadmin | sure... but now that you've updated, you could try to do what you were doing when you got the messages you posted |
| 06:13.05 | ham5 | rm all apt/lists ? |
| 06:13.08 | ham5 | then update |
| 06:13.31 | nsadmin | wait on that, let aptitude handle the lists stuff |
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| 06:18.27 | dwep | is there a linux command for terminal printing of an image's file type, resolution, etc.? |
| 06:19.06 | timo | dwep: identify, part of the imagemagick package |
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| 06:19.50 | dwep | timo: awesome, ty :3 |
| 06:19.57 | timo | np |
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| 06:23.04 | lamah | bleh |
| 06:23.09 | lamah | paste fail sometimes |
| 06:23.16 | lamah | nsadmin: http://pastebin.com/yjsQBCfL |
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| 06:24.36 | tsccof | is it true that a machine becomes unrecoverable after going into runlevel 1 on debian 6? |
| 06:24.51 | tsccof | as in, you must reboot it for getting back to another runlevel |
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| 06:25.54 | streuner_ | !runlevel |
| 06:25.54 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot. By default 2, 3, 4 and 5 are identical (no graphic/non-graphic runlevels), but you can configure this if you wish. Read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d; if that doesn't make sense, consider installing <rcconf> instead. See also http://debian-administration.org/articles/212, <startup>, <file-rc>, <single-user mode>. |
| 06:27.07 | tsccof | streuner_: thanks, in a way, that answered my question |
| 06:27.18 | tsccof | but there is no such bug, is there? :P |
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| 06:29.33 | vlt | Hello. Every few hours my Debian squeeze kernel looses all SATA drives and everything slowly dies because storage is gone. I set up logging on serial console. This is what it looks like: http://pastebin.com/UYnKQq4N |
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| 06:30.06 | vlt | To get rid of these crashes the server hardware (case, psu, mainboard, cpu, ram, sata data and power cables, everything except 4 of 6 SATA drives) has been completely replaced. |
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| 06:30.27 | vlt | It's an intel server board with this: "00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller" |
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| 06:30.48 | vlt | SMART log of the SATA disks: http://pastebin.com/R7tS3zS5 |
| 06:30.48 | Dewi | vlt: tried a different SATA mode in BIOS? |
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| 06:31.25 | vlt | Dewi: Such as? |
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| 06:31.33 | Dewi | vlt: depends on the mobo |
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| 06:32.03 | Dewi | vlt: Often there are choices like normal, AHCI, IDE emulation |
| 06:32.50 | vlt | Dewi: Intel S5520HCR. When switching from AHCI to IDE I'll can't SATA hotswap anymore, right? |
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| 06:33.08 | vlt | Dewi: What about NCQ in IDE mode? |
| 06:33.14 | streuner_ | tsccof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-user_mode |
| 06:33.51 | Dewi | vlt: dunno about either. Hotswap seems vaguely likely to work |
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| 06:34.10 | lamah | nsadmin: did you see my paste? |
| 06:34.10 | Dewi | vlt: what about AHCI? |
| 06:34.22 | streuner_ | tsccof: in short, its ok, no bug needed. |
| 06:34.57 | tsccof | streuner_: what do you mean by "no bug needed"? |
| 06:34.59 | Dewi | vlt: some BIOS do have an option that is neither AHCI nor IDE emulation. I don't know what to call it though. |
| 06:35.49 | tsccof | streuner_: I've read a blog post made by a Debian developer where he claimed a bug existed when switching to runlevel 1 |
| 06:35.51 | streuner_ | tsccof: You dont need to file a bugreport if you arent able switch to another user when you are already in single-user mode? |
| 06:36.10 | tsccof | streuner_: I know, that's not what I meant :P |
| 06:36.33 | streuner_ | ok, i dunno what you mean then |
| 06:36.34 | tsccof | streuner_: what I meant was, if there is a bug whenever you switch from runlevel 1, back to runlevel 3 |
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| 06:37.10 | streuner_ | why, you have to reboot |
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| 06:37.21 | tsccof | do you have to reboot? |
| 06:38.12 | streuner_ | read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-user_mode again, otherwise single-user mode wouldnt make much sense... |
| 06:38.21 | tsccof | no no, wait |
| 06:38.28 | tsccof | I know exactly what single-user mode is |
| 06:38.55 | tsccof | http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_should_start_from__etc_rcS_d__in_Debian____almost_nothing.html |
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| 06:39.12 | tsccof | "There are at least two problems. The first is that it is not possible to recover a machine after switching to runlevel 1." |
| 06:39.24 | auk | Hey, how can I put scp on debian? A server I'm using has some weird set up. No wget, no aptitude -.- |
| 06:39.39 | kgoetz | auk: doesn't sound much like debian |
| 06:40.00 | auk | But it sure does say debian though. |
| 06:40.12 | kgoetz | where did you come accross this server? |
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| 06:40.49 | auk | Either that, or it's some bootleg custumized set up, because the machine is named "rescue". :( |
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| 06:41.47 | rww | auk: sudo apt-get install openssh-client |
| 06:42.14 | molqr | i might have messed something up .. i keep getting "Couldn't stat source package list ...No such file or directory" when i sudo apt-get update ... and apt-get is not able to search for any package |
| 06:42.30 | molqr | it's an old etch machine :( |
| 06:42.37 | auk | rww, I can't even do those :S |
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| 06:42.47 | rww | auk: you're doomed. reinstall! |
| 06:42.53 | kgoetz | auk: how did you get this host? |
| 06:43.04 | kgoetz | molqr: upgrade to a supported release |
| 06:43.45 | molqr | kgoetz: unfortunately that is not an option ... this old system is attached to a robot manipulator that works only with this release :( |
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| 06:44.14 | kgoetz | molqr: :| |
| 06:44.20 | kgoetz | molqr: its on archive.d.o |
| 06:44.26 | kgoetz | dpkg: etch |
| 06:44.26 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 06:44.37 | auk | kgoetz: , rww, I'm following these steps, http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3787 <--- Trying to install ubuntu, since I don't like their buggy customized set up. (it works, but the annoying perl error LOCALE thing purely pisses me off). |
| 06:44.39 | kgoetz | dpkg: archive |
| 06:44.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 06:44.47 | kgoetz | hm, not what i wanted |
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| 06:44.56 | vlt | Dewi: SATA is running in AHCI mode now. Hot swapping works fine so far. |
| 06:45.00 | auk | It's an ovh server. |
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| 06:45.45 | molqr | kgoetz: what is archive.d.o? |
| 06:46.07 | kgoetz | molqr: archive.debian.org |
| 06:46.08 | vlt | Dewi: One of the BIOS modes is called "Enhanced". On that board that means 4 disks work in IDE mode (for compatibility) and 2 in full AHCI mode. |
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| 06:47.13 | molqr | kgoetz: so i can use archive.debian.org in sources.list ... right? |
| 06:47.32 | auk | kgoetz: It's not really my server, I'm just asked to do a remote ubuntu installation. |
| 06:47.44 | Dewi | vlt: unfortunately I've experienced all kinds of flakiness problems with different combos of hardware & kernels, which can often be resolved by random switching of those sorts of things |
| 06:48.01 | kgoetz | molqr: i expect so, yes. note the bit about no security support... and tell management :) |
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| 06:48.56 | molqr | kgoetz: thanks so much :) u r a lifesaver |
| 06:49.04 | Dewi | vlt: it's all compatibility hacks & bugfixes built into the windows driver that the opensource devs don't get told about |
| 06:49.09 | kgoetz | molqr: gl :) |
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| 06:54.34 | systst | hi i've a problem with lm-sensors in deb squeeze: it displays on acpitz-virtual device but not via686a and yet module via686a is loaded and added to etc/modules |
| 06:54.52 | asdjaputra | acpi -V? |
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| 06:56.35 | systst | only displays critical temp:79 |
| 06:56.51 | systst | but not fan speed and other temp |
| 06:57.04 | molqr | i want to remove a package but there is some problem and i m asked to "sudo apt-get install -f" without any package name.. but on trying to do it seems i will lose a xserver gdm and a whole lot http://pastebin.com/maR74nSt |
| 06:57.11 | systst | yet in deb5 everything worked outof the box |
| 06:57.22 | systst | by just installing lm-sensors pack |
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| 06:58.27 | systst | alsa tried sensors-detect |
| 06:58.42 | systst | also* it finds via686 chip but still nothing disp |
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| 07:24.07 | TCW | why would a /etc/network/interfaces wireless WPA config not work but done with network-manager in gnome it just works? In other words, I need help :) Realtek RTL8180L 802.11b wireless card, WPA-PSK , this is the config snippet used http://paste.debian.net/124737/ which does not work. syslog shows several auth / deauth messages... let me get the messages shown in a paste... one sec |
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| 07:26.05 | abhishekb | hi all how to start mysql on start up |
| 07:26.09 | abhishekb | in debian |
| 07:26.26 | TCW | wtf! Now it just works!? |
| 07:26.55 | TCW | abhishekb, install it, configure it, should be started automatically |
| 07:27.14 | abhishekb | actually it is installed already |
| 07:27.24 | abhishekb | i can t reinstall it |
| 07:27.35 | jelly-home | abhishekb: mysql service ought to start automatically once installed, which Debian release are you using? |
| 07:27.56 | TCW | abhishekb, have a look in /usr/share/doc/mysql*/* for hints on configuring |
| 07:28.23 | TCW | abhishekb, why? What is the error message? And why do you want to reinstall if it is installed? |
| 07:28.26 | abhishekb | i always have to start it up using /etc/init.d/mysql start |
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| 07:30.06 | TCW | abhishekb, how about answering questions? |
| 07:30.43 | abhishekb | there are two gzipped files n a copyright file there |
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| 07:33.17 | TCW | abhishekb, for starteers zless /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.1/README.Debian.gz and there are still at least three quaestions left to answer... so please, see what we all said to you and answer the questions |
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| 07:36.39 | molqr | guys i messed up my X on an etch system ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg also is not able to produce a working xorg.conf |
| 07:37.34 | TCW | molqr, etch? Don't you think an upgrade would be somewhat a good idea? |
| 07:38.29 | molqr | TCW: yeah but that option is not available. it's not my system. but its connected to a hardware that won't allow an upgrade and the top brass wants it that way :( |
| 07:38.40 | abhishekb | see actually as mysql is not starting my cronjobs are getting messed up |
| 07:39.19 | abhishekb | so i want it to start i thought reinstalling it will make it run on startup by default |
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| 07:39.46 | abhishekb | but when i thaought about it that is not possible |
| 07:40.00 | molqr | is there any other way to generate a working xorg.conf on etch machine? |
| 07:40.04 | abhishekb | i need to some how put it in startup |
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| 07:40.08 | TCW | molqr, see google, there are hundreds of examples for an xorg.conf file |
| 07:40.19 | abhishekb | i am new to linux so i don t know how to |
| 07:40.21 | abhishekb | :( |
| 07:40.24 | TCW | s/hundreds/thousands/ |
| 07:40.53 | molqr | TCW: guess i have no choice |
| 07:42.34 | TCW | abhishekb, as the very first thing learn how IRC works (read the netiquette) see the topic of this channel and see the FAQ... and maybe you know then how to ask for help and damn it, how to answer them! |
| 07:43.07 | TCW | molqr, dunno if X does know the X --configure switch in etch, but you can try |
| 07:43.25 | TCW | prolly not... |
| 07:43.28 | molqr | TCW: thanks will try that |
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| 07:44.02 | abhishekb | m sorry 4 da inconvinience |
| 07:44.07 | abhishekb | thanks anyway |
| 07:44.20 | abhishekb | i ll try to search it on net :| |
| 07:44.30 | TCW | .oO( ... ) |
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| 07:46.17 | ompaul | molqr: etch needs to be upgraded |
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| 07:47.43 | sixyearsofdreams | is there anyway i can view my webpages on my webserver from my network with the public ip aswell or no? |
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| 07:48.36 | TCW | sixyearsofdreams, maybe with some firewall / routing rules... but I guess that is kinda dirty |
| 07:49.06 | sixyearsofdreams | TCW: ok, because ive been shifting directories in my wordpress all the time |
| 07:49.20 | sixyearsofdreams | TCW: i can view them fine with anonymouse browsing but thats limited |
| 07:49.21 | TCW | sixyearsofdreams, pardon? |
| 07:49.40 | sixyearsofdreams | my wordpress |
| 07:49.49 | sixyearsofdreams | when i want to view it localy i have to edit its paths |
| 07:50.00 | sixyearsofdreams | back to local ip, if i want to view it public, i gota edit directoy to public ip |
| 07:50.08 | TCW | ?! |
| 07:50.10 | sixyearsofdreams | lol |
| 07:50.22 | sixyearsofdreams | i guess you dont know much about wordpress? |
| 07:50.26 | TCW | sixyearsofdreams, why don't you use relative paths? |
| 07:50.43 | sixyearsofdreams | TCW: can you explain |
| 07:51.05 | TCW | sixyearsofdreams, I did set it up once, years ago... I don't remember there were any rules that did forbid one to use relative paths |
| 07:51.14 | sixyearsofdreams | WordPress address (URL) |
| 07:51.18 | sixyearsofdreams | Site address (URL) |
| 07:51.24 | sixyearsofdreams | those are the ones i gota be changing |
| 07:51.44 | molqr | TCW: nopes that does not work |
| 07:51.54 | molqr | ompaul: yeah i know :( |
| 07:54.06 | TCW | sixyearsofdreams, I don't remember anything, sorry... as said it is years ago. But if all fails, set a local alias to the external hostname so if you try to access www.some-webpage.com it goes directly to your apache... |
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| 08:05.31 | VoxWave | I have 86,7 GB left on my harddrive. How much should I give to debian? |
| 08:06.02 | TCW | VoxWave, that highly depends on what ypu plan on storing onto it? |
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| 08:06.17 | TCW | I have around 1TB for Debian :) |
| 08:06.37 | ham5 | my / is 6Gb now out of 15 |
| 08:06.40 | VoxWave | media goes to my 1tb outern hardisk |
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| 08:07.25 | ham5 | seperate /home /var /usr its up to you |
| 08:07.48 | VoxWave | app installs prob have to go to the debian partition |
| 08:08.04 | VoxWave | 20 gig ? |
| 08:08.11 | ham5 | k |
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| 08:08.17 | ham5 | gl hf |
| 08:08.25 | VoxWave | sounds ok right? |
| 08:08.31 | TCW | VoxWave, a very rough estimation... maybe around 10GB should be enough for a common Debian Desktop install, and /home... that really depends |
| 08:09.15 | TCW | and it *really* sucks to move files and folders around when you realise the space you planned is not enough |
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| 08:09.47 | ham5 | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s05.html.en |
| 08:09.52 | Shadur | Is it? I usually use tar and pipes to shuffle stuff around en masse. |
| 08:09.59 | VoxWave | I have a 1 TB external harddrive |
| 08:10.23 | VoxWave | thanks for the advice. |
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| 08:53.20 | jelly | gives TCW a lvm2 setup |
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| 08:53.56 | TCW | jelly, guess what? :p |
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| 08:55.58 | TCW | # pvscan |
| 08:55.59 | TCW | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.00 | TCW | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.27 | frostschutz | beautiful |
| 08:57.19 | White_R | hi! I'd like to use/browse a Point Of Interest map on my debian laptop, offline = no GPS, no internet. Which package(s) should I install? |
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| 08:57.50 | TCW | jelly, but VoxWave was talking about dualboot (Windows) I guess and LVM does not work with WIndows... |
| 08:58.12 | th0r | White_R: that depends on the file format of the map |
| 08:58.19 | TCW | White_R, marble with offline maps? |
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| 08:59.09 | White_R | I'll check the format... |
| 09:00.11 | White_R | hmmm, it seems I can pick the format I prefer http://poiplaza.com/?p=download&d=718&lstpg2=sdb&lstpg=main can't I? |
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| 09:02.08 | White_R | ok, marble is able to read .kml files, I'll go for the keyhole file. |
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| 09:16.39 | gjvisser | My crontab log file shows: Aug 1 11:14:01 millward-backup1 /usr/sbin/cron[2780]: (*system*) WRONG INODE INFO (/etc/crontab) |
| 09:17.08 | gjvisser | what is *system* ? |
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| 09:19.40 | gjvisser | Hi |
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| 09:21.47 | shirish | does anybody how one can find the number of packages in the amd64 distribution on say sid/unstable. |
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| 09:26.14 | kgoetz | shirish: builda debian mirror, or look at packages.debian.org, or look in the Packgaes file |
| 09:26.22 | kgoetz | take your pick |
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| 09:56.24 | blauefuesse | good morning! what do i add to /ets/issue so that the screen after login / or do i add this to /etc/motd and what do i add there ? |
| 09:58.05 | petemc | man motd |
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| 09:58.54 | th0r | blauefuesse: those are text files that are displayed when logging in via ssh or tty. They are just places to put messages to the users |
| 09:59.54 | blauefuesse | my sentence is incomplet, looking for command to add in motd or issue to clear screen after login |
| 10:00.00 | blauefuesse | thank you th0r |
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| 10:00.18 | kgoetz | clear the screen? add it to your profile surely |
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| 10:07.52 | molqr | in the xorg.conf file i need to put busid of my video card .. something like "PCI:0:2:0"(taken from a random xorg.conf file) .. how can i find it out for my own system? |
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| 10:10.44 | Internat | molqr: lspci |
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| 10:11.29 | molqr | Internat: thanks. i get this 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Unknown device 29c2 (rev 10) ... but i don't know how to interpret it? |
| 10:12.21 | Internat | yeah i cant remember how xorg expects it.. but that 00:02.0 is the busid |
| 10:12.36 | project2501b | kgoetz: you can force tty to clear itself after exit |
| 10:13.11 | kgoetz | project2501b: sure. stick 'clear' in your .bash_logout |
| 10:13.30 | kgoetz | project2501b: i was just questioning using {inet,motd}for that purpose |
| 10:14.12 | project2501b | sorry, but i have to disagree |
| 10:14.13 | molqr | thanks Internat |
| 10:14.18 | project2501b | that is not very efficient |
| 10:14.27 | project2501b | especially when you have more than one system |
| 10:14.28 | project2501b | http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=clear+tty+after+exit&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&safe=on#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=active&client=opera&hs=n7&rls=en&source=hp&q=clear+screen+after+logout&aq=f&aqi=g-v1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=e8d8332dd9241009&biw=1497&bih=873 |
| 10:14.34 | project2501b | there you go |
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| 10:15.19 | kgoetz | how does that difficulty scale with multiple systems worse then editing any other config? |
| 10:15.40 | project2501b | because you would have to do it for each user |
| 10:15.51 | project2501b | vs editing a single conf file in the master |
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| 10:17.17 | kgoetz | yeah, for multiple users editing .bash_logout takes longer. i still don't see motod/inet being the correct place for it (your link doesn't seem to support using them either) |
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| 10:23.57 | Jippi | Hi guys... I'm playing around with sudo, and I got an wierd error :) if I define this sudo line "git ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" the git user should be able to sudo as anyone and run any command without password. it seems to work when Im in an interactive shell, but when I invoke it in an non-interactive shell I get: sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified |
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| 10:24.22 | molqr | x does not work on etch ... manually wrote a generic xorg.conf one of the errors i get is "gartinit unable to open /dev/agpgart" |
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| 10:40.03 | molqr | sources.list has this ....deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free ... is that the stable repo? how can i turn on the unstable repo? |
| 10:40.47 | petemc | etch is 2 versions old and has been unsupported since last year |
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| 10:44.40 | oobe | molqr, maybe you want testing |
| 10:44.51 | oobe | testing is pretty new but more stable than unstable |
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| 10:45.33 | oobe | backup your sources.list then find and replace all instances of etch with testing |
| 10:46.14 | molqr | oobe: i really want X to run on etch ... i noticed problems with /dev/agpgart no such device.. on a forum it said that taking the latest kernel from unstable helped the issue |
| 10:46.21 | molqr | thanks oobe |
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| 10:46.54 | kgoetz | if you turn on testing and or unstable on an etch machine you will almost certainly kill it |
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| 10:47.00 | oobe | well unless they posted that only a few days ago then its no longer relevent as unstable is updated constantly |
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| 10:47.24 | oobe | kgoetz, sorry for giving him bad advice |
| 10:47.48 | oobe | molqr, dont upgrade to testing as kgoetz said it will cause problems |
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| 10:47.58 | webad_13 | can grub be set up so that it wont boot during a specific time (say between 00 and 7) |
| 10:48.01 | molqr | oobe: too late :( |
| 10:48.05 | oobe | not really |
| 10:48.20 | kgoetz | webad_13: not afaik |
| 10:48.23 | oobe | unless you downloaded 1000s of packages in a few seconds |
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| 10:48.57 | molqr | oobe: you are right "Couldn't stat source package" saved me i guess |
| 10:49.22 | oobe | just switch it back to etch |
| 10:49.37 | oobe | and if you still want to upgrade do it incrementally by version changes |
| 10:49.49 | oobe | I dont know which version comes after which |
| 10:49.55 | oobe | but it would be time consuming |
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| 10:51.05 | molqr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:51.21 | molqr | what does that mean |
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| 10:52.28 | karl_ | hi all, i have a problem with my bluetooth mouse. since i have moved to squeeze its extremely jerky |
| 10:52.28 | molqr | and (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (No such file or directory) ... both from /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 10:53.35 | karl_ | it seems to be a performance issue of some kind, whenever the computer is doing something, the bt-mouse is jerky |
| 10:53.43 | k-man | is there some way to remove a broken package manually? |
| 10:54.00 | k-man | dpkg still thinks it's there and refuses to uninstall it even with --force-all |
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| 10:54.00 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, k-man |
| 10:54.21 | kgoetz | dpkg: shush |
| 10:54.21 | dpkg | Fine, I'll shut up. |
| 10:54.42 | karl_ | any way to debug that ? |
| 10:54.45 | kgoetz | k-man: you tried to remove with dpkg and it wont'? could you pastebin? |
| 10:54.59 | karl_ | the mouse worked fine in lenny |
| 10:55.25 | kgoetz | karl_: the bluetooth stack is almost completely different, lots and lots of things could be at work |
| 10:56.33 | k-man | http://pastie.org/2303159 |
| 10:56.42 | karl_ | i have read that there were lots of changes in bt, still, my mouse is not working in debian stable which is a bummer |
| 10:57.16 | karl_ | any ideas how to debug, what to try, what to update ? |
| 10:57.46 | k-man | kgoetz, and if I try to install a package I get this: http://pastie.org/2303163 |
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| 10:58.01 | kgoetz | karl_: sorry, not i. don't own any bt gear |
| 10:58.11 | karl_ | bugger |
| 10:58.16 | k-man | what is bt? |
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| 10:59.01 | kgoetz | k-man: hm, nasty. does /var/cache/apt/archives have hte hp package i it? |
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| 10:59.17 | karl_ | bt bluetooth |
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| 11:01.04 | samtuke | Hi, how can I sent a command over ssh to disconnect wifi and reconnect, so that I don't end up with the server I'm ssh'd into being offline and unreachable? I'm applying a new network config (set the server wifi to use static IP) |
| 11:01.15 | gonzzor | Is it possible to disable * expantion on files in bash? |
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| 11:01.29 | bruce14 | samtuke: i guess the easiest way would be to run a shell script doing what you wish to do |
| 11:01.29 | gonzzor | I'm doing a for-loop over some files, and some of them contains a * |
| 11:01.42 | kgoetz | samtuke: run it in screen to help mnitigate the problem |
| 11:02.15 | mosez | i tried to use debootstrap with virtual packages. but i'm getting the error "E: Couldn't find these debs: libopenssl-ruby dhcp-client irb php5-json libzlib-ruby rdoc". how could i solve that? |
| 11:02.18 | samtuke | kgoetz, bruce14: so write a simple script with a delay in and run it with screen? |
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| 11:02.45 | kgoetz | gonzzor: i don't think it is, no. #bash might be more help though |
| 11:02.48 | karl_ | would it be possible to go back to the lenny-bluetooth packages ? |
| 11:02.55 | kgoetz | samtuke: no, run the command ins creen |
| 11:03.13 | gonzzor | kgoetz: Thanks. |
| 11:03.22 | bruce14 | samtuke: if you would loose your connection to the server while making the changes, yes thats what i wouldve done |
| 11:03.42 | kgoetz | karl_: unlikely |
| 11:03.45 | samtuke | kgoetz, which command though? is there a command which will take the interface down and then back up again, like 'service restart' for daemons? |
| 11:04.00 | kgoetz | its called 'networking' |
| 11:04.07 | kgoetz | (the init script is called networking) |
| 11:04.22 | kgoetz | so you restart that one. unless you only wanta specific interface |
| 11:05.00 | samtuke | kgoetz, no, restarting all interfaces is fine (only the wlan0 interface is active) |
| 11:05.18 | mosez | would it be enough to add the packages referenced by the virtual packages? |
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| 11:06.33 | samtuke | kgoetz, hmm, it seems that it has applied the new config anyway! does using ifconfig to reconfigure an interface automatically reconnect it afterwards? |
| 11:06.48 | kgoetz | mosez: not surewhat you're describing |
| 11:06.48 | Rienzilla | a/w 65 |
| 11:07.07 | kgoetz | samtuke: it should apply it on the spot |
| 11:07.21 | samtuke | kgoetz, ok great, thanks to you and bruce14 for your help! |
| 11:07.26 | mosez | kgoetz: 13:02 < mosez> i tried to use debootstrap with virtual packages. but i'm getting the error "E: Couldn't find these debs: libopenssl-ruby dhcp-client irb php5-json libzlib-ruby rdoc". how could i solve that? |
| 11:07.33 | kgoetz | samtuke: wd :) |
| 11:07.45 | kgoetz | mosez: i'm still not sure what you mean, could you paste us the command you ran? |
| 11:08.13 | kgoetz | mosez: and perhaps try installing them after the debootstrap |
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| 11:09.25 | mosez | kgoetz: i ran debootstrap with a long list for --include, and for some packages i'm getting the error above. and all of them are virtual packages. |
| 11:09.33 | karl_ | upgrade bt to testing or unstable ? |
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| 11:09.42 | mosez | one moment, i will paste it |
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| 11:10.27 | kgoetz | mosez: debootstrap supports running a script post install, that might be a way around the problem if you don't hae any more luck |
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| 11:11.12 | mosez | kgoetz: http://pastie.org/2303204 thats my debootstrap call. i'm extending an lxc template. |
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| 11:13.29 | kgoetz | mosez: hm |
| 11:13.42 | kgoetz | mosez: ftr, you probably want to use a differnet mirror then ftp.d.o |
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| 11:13.44 | jane1 | any suggestions for a domain name that has music, education, videos, students , chating , bloging... video chats. text chats.. etc. multi purpose communication . ? |
| 11:14.05 | mosez | kgoetz: i will change it, that was my first testrun |
| 11:14.26 | kgoetz | mosez: interstingly, dhcp-client is not a virtual package |
| 11:14.49 | mosez | kgoetz: replacing the virtual packages with the real packages seems to work. |
| 11:14.53 | mosez | kgoetz: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/dhcp-client it is |
| 11:15.28 | jelly | hi, how/when does http://www.debian.org/mirror/list get updated? I've added back all the architectures to my mirror but the page doesn't list them |
| 11:15.31 | mosez | kgoetz: since squeeze it is a virtual package. |
| 11:15.39 | kgoetz | mosez: hm, so it is. i stand corrected |
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| 11:16.15 | kgoetz | jelly: isn't everything under www fed through the cvs monstor? |
| 11:16.19 | kgoetz | ie, manually |
| 11:16.31 | jelly | kgoetz: I have no idea, is it? |
| 11:16.47 | kgoetz | i think it is |
| 11:16.57 | kgoetz | you'd have to mail the www list to get it fixed |
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| 11:19.34 | Gekz | I need to set up my own small repository (<20 packages), what software should I use? |
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| 11:20.54 | kgoetz | Gekz: custom packages? dpkg-scan{packages,source} and 5 lines of bash |
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| 11:21.16 | Gekz | oh? |
| 11:21.55 | jelly | or that reprepro thing |
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| 11:22.44 | Learnerofskills | hi |
| 11:22.54 | streuner_ | !own repo |
| 11:22.54 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./";, or see <reprepro> |
| 11:23.17 | kgoetz | nuff said |
| 11:24.39 | jelly | and apt nagging about unsigned repos :-| |
| 11:24.53 | Learnerofskills | can someone help me install debian on my android tablet? I have the tablet connected to my computer right now and a terminal open. |
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| 11:25.32 | jelly | Learnerofskills: that's usually a nontrivial task, with model-specific steps |
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| 11:25.53 | Learnerofskills | My tablet is already rooted... |
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| 11:26.22 | Learnerofskills | but ok |
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| 11:27.52 | jelly | Learnerofskills: might have more luck in a architecture specific channel, which CPU is in there |
| 11:28.32 | Learnerofskills | it has an arm processor |
| 11:29.02 | Learnerofskills | nvidia tegra I believe |
| 11:29.14 | janders | Hi, I'm trying to run pppd on a Squeeze, but I get strange behavior: |
| 11:29.31 | janders | If I use an usb-serial adapter it works fine |
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| 11:29.59 | Learnerofskills | whats the channel for debian arm? |
| 11:30.24 | janders | If I try to use any of the "normal" serial interfaces, I don't see any packets, debug messages or anything at all |
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| 11:30.47 | nkuttler | !tell Learnerofskills about arm |
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| 11:31.14 | Learnerofskills | thank you |
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| 11:31.59 | janders | Same command with different device: pppd nodetach debug noauth -crtscts /dev/ttyS1 38400 |
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| 11:38.35 | Mads | Hello |
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| 11:41.54 | k-man | kgoetz, no, its in a .iso I got from hp. I have tried re-installing it, but its well broken and I cannot install it |
| 11:42.28 | k-man | kgoetz, is there some way to make dpkg forget about the package? or manually mark the package as removed from dpkg's databaes or something? |
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| 11:44.43 | kgoetz | k-man: its possible in a 'changing kidneys is possible' way. not sure i'd be game to try and talk someone through it tbh... |
| 11:44.44 | abrotman | k-man: you can, but is that really what you want? |
| 11:45.21 | abrotman | what's wrong with the package? |
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| 11:47.19 | dokma | hey guyz... I need to install cpanel on an existing production server that has been manually administered with apache, mysql, php and exim/vexim |
| 11:47.25 | dokma | is this going to be a nightmare? |
| 11:47.33 | dokma | I have no cpanel experience |
| 11:47.56 | dokma | so I'm interested to know what are the chances of completely messing up my server |
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| 11:48.16 | abrotman | is it a Debian server? |
| 11:48.25 | dokma | yes |
| 11:48.33 | jelly | dokma: non-free control panel products often replace crucial parts of the OS, the end result can't really be called "Debian" any more |
| 11:48.33 | dokma | that's why I ask here |
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| 11:48.46 | jelly | tread carefully |
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| 11:48.59 | dokma | jelly: didn't know that |
| 11:49.01 | abrotman | dokma: i was asking because from what i understand, cpanel and Debian don't mix so well .. |
| 11:49.04 | dokma | can you give me more details |
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| 11:49.18 | dokma | abrotman: I heard it was not supported |
| 11:49.20 | abrotman | !tell gagauga about root |
| 11:49.26 | abrotman | dokma: but you're doing it anyway? |
| 11:49.34 | dokma | I'm considering options |
| 11:49.39 | abrotman | !free whcp |
| 11:49.39 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig>, <ispCP> Omega and <RavenCore>. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 11:49.40 | dokma | I need CPanel on my server |
| 11:49.48 | abrotman | i doubt you need 'cpanel' |
| 11:50.33 | dokma | abrotman: I remember looking into some of these a few years back and I think none of them were on the level of cpanel |
| 11:50.36 | dokma | anything changed? |
| 11:50.44 | abrotman | i'm sure .. it's been a few years |
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| 11:51.22 | abrotman | though the question would be which are in Debian, and which integrate well |
| 11:51.33 | dokma | true |
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| 11:51.37 | dokma | do you know of any? |
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| 11:53.43 | abrotman | in whihc version of Debian? |
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| 11:58.29 | Gekz | how does one go about packaging python3 modules? |
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| 11:59.23 | Shaggy2 | hello I have a problem, I was installing something using apt-get install when my cat stood on the pause/break button on my kb. how do you get the installer going again |
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| 12:00.04 | Stava | I interrupted the installation of mysql-server (apt-get) and now when I try to remove it this happens: http://pastie.org/2303383 what should I do? |
| 12:00.23 | dokma | abrotman: just a sec... phone |
| 12:01.16 | jk | Stava: try apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.1 |
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| 12:01.49 | Stava | jk, oh, thanks |
| 12:01.57 | dokma | abrotman: I'm on stable |
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| 12:02.07 | dokma | minimal install, only 381 packages |
| 12:02.13 | Shaggy2 | hello I have a problem, I was installing something using apt-get install when my cat stood on the pause/break button on my kb. how do you get the installer going again |
| 12:02.17 | abrotman | dokma: i dn't believe any are packaged for stable .. |
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| 12:02.39 | abrotman | Shaggy2: did it do anything? tried ctrl-q ? |
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| 12:06.13 | Shaggy2 | abrotman: this is the message I gothttp://pastie.org/2303409 |
| 12:06.20 | Shaggy2 | abrotman: this is the message I got http://pastie.org/2303409 |
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| 12:07.22 | abrotman | Shaggy2: start by removing that lock file |
| 12:07.33 | Shaggy2 | abrotman: how? |
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| 12:09.25 | Shaggy2 | abrotman: so I changed to /var/lib/dpkg and then type rm lock |
| 12:10.22 | gagauga | ups |
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| 12:10.38 | b44 | How to look up the dns table ?? |
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| 12:11.34 | wols | b44: you mean check what DNS servre is set? cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 12:11.46 | wols | or use nslookup <host> to query it |
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| 12:13.00 | b44 | wols: there is no dns table, where domains which I looked up are saved ? |
| 12:13.18 | b44 | thought domains are only looked up on first run |
| 12:13.35 | abrotman | you mean the cached entries? |
| 12:14.32 | b44 | y |
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| 12:14.48 | abrotman | what is 'y' ? |
| 12:14.53 | b44 | abrotman: yes ;) |
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| 12:15.38 | masterkorp | hey, my debian doesn't recnoze the new cartiges, so i can print anything because hplp keeps saying its low on ink |
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| 12:17.54 | Mads | Hello. I have a problem with a debian server wich is configured as a mail server. My problem is that a specefic group of people do not receive mails --- I have found out that the path to this group is different from the other paths ex. original path --> /mail/group1/mail_acct ... and the people who do not receive mail have the path --> /mail//group2/mail_acct .... does this affect if the people receive their mails or any other sugges |
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| 12:19.08 | b44 | Why could smtp-connection be very slow, while pop/imap is very fast ????? |
| 12:19.17 | b44 | using own email-server |
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| 12:20.50 | dddbmt | hi guys. How do I grep only the MAC address from ifconfig? My eth0. |
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| 12:21.14 | blauefuesse | hi |
| 12:22.28 | gonzzor | ip link show dev eth0 | awk '/ether/ {print $2}' |
| 12:23.08 | dddbmt | was that for me, gonzzor? |
| 12:23.46 | Viliny | is there any kind of protocol or something for allowing users to launch applications on a linux server? |
| 12:23.49 | dddbmt | guess it was - it's working. Thanks gonzzor! |
| 12:23.52 | Viliny | aching to citrix if anyones familiar with that |
| 12:24.17 | Viliny | like, starting pidgin on the server and that window gets casted to a remote client machine |
| 12:24.32 | Viliny | something a little more clever than vnc |
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| 12:25.00 | Viliny | cross platform would be awesome |
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| 12:26.05 | hid3 | Good afternoon everyone |
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| 12:26.28 | blauefuesse | what is the minimum i need to install run (cups... ) cups from browser "localhost:631" i have my a browser allready ;-) and .ppd file for my printer |
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| 12:27.09 | frostschutz | dddbmt: another alternative ifconfig eth0 | grep -Eio "[0-9a-f]{2}(:[0-9a-f]{2}){5}" - I try to avoid grepping output though. |
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| 12:27.33 | optraz | this is a general question, anyone know if there is a site allow user to specify url so that the site will retrive the page? |
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| 12:28.01 | blauefuesse | must i only install cups/j ##linux |
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| 12:29.11 | aLgEBrA | optraz, try http://cache-010.appspot.com/ |
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| 12:29.35 | gjvisser | My crontab log file shows: Aug 1 11:14:01 millward-backup1 /usr/sbin/cron[2780]: (*system*) WRONG INODE INFO (/etc/crontab) |
| 12:29.36 | optraz | aLgEBrA: not bad :) |
| 12:29.44 | gjvisser | how can I get crontab to work again? |
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| 12:30.29 | dddbmt | frostschutz, thanks alot! Would you mind telling me why I should stay away from grep? |
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| 12:30.38 | jelly | gjvisser: what is wrong with that file, /etc/crontab? |
| 12:30.44 | optraz | aLgEBrA: is that private? |
| 12:30.55 | jelly | gjvisser: is it a normal file, for a start? |
| 12:31.33 | raven737 | Hi... i have a lun from a san that i just extended however it is not showing up ind debian (fdisk -l / rescan-scsi-bus.sh-1.48). Is there anyway i can force a rescan of the disks without restarting? |
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| 12:32.06 | b44 | Why could smtp-connection be very slow, while pop/imap is very fast ????? using own citadel email-server |
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| 12:32.22 | aLgEBrA | optraz, its an application build upon googleapp engine i think. you could find more proxyapps of that kind with google .. |
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| 12:34.02 | aLgEBrA | optraz, could be that it is a c.i.a. fake |
| 12:34.07 | Shaggy2 | I want to install debian 6 onto another system that has no optical drive in it, so I am needing to use a usb drive, what do I download from the website? |
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| 12:34.20 | optraz | aLgEBrA: okay, just concern if it track the url user input ;) |
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| 12:34.31 | blauefuesse | what main packages do i need to run cups in brower (localhost:631) ? |
| 12:34.48 | frostschutz | dddbmt: it just breaks easily. for example you could grep for hwaddr, only it's not there if the system is using another language. |
| 12:34.56 | blauefuesse | ^browser |
| 12:35.29 | raven737 | i tried: echo "---" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/scan but it doesn't work :( |
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| 12:36.07 | abrotman | raven737: it's "- - -" |
| 12:36.13 | abrotman | !scsi rescan |
| 12:36.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, scsi rescan is echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host#/scan (where # is the number of the relevant SCSI host). Any new devices found will be listed in /proc/scsi/scsi. Functionality now in sysfs (scsi host has scan node, scsi device has a rescan node). Alternatively, aptitude install scsitools && rescan-scsi-bus.sh, or see the scsiadd package. |
| 12:36.48 | dddbmt | frostschutz, okay - so I should stick to the "awk" solution gonzzor posted? |
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| 12:38.06 | hid3 | Does there exist such thing as Debian Certificates? Like Redhat has, so you can become a 'known good' spec. |
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| 12:38.41 | raven737 | abrotman: thank you -_-); |
| 12:39.28 | optraz | anyone using pdns-recursor? is it possible to add a few entries of computer to pdns locally? |
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| 12:42.11 | Shaggy2 | what file do I download from the debian website to install from a USB Stick? |
| 12:42.30 | abrotman | the netinst |
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| 12:42.42 | abrotman | how did you go from the lock file to installing/ |
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| 12:42.45 | abrotman | ? |
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| 12:44.10 | jelly | optraz: you want to push entries into the cache? |
| 12:44.36 | Shaggy2 | installing on a dif system, the lock file has been sorted thank you. now while that is doing it's thing gunna get another server up and running but it does not have an cd/dvd drive so I have to do it from usb, and I have never done it before, and I am using windows to get it onto the usb stick, but they come in .img format so how do I get it to work? I know I know very stupid question but I do |
| 12:44.36 | Shaggy2 | not know |
| 12:44.50 | abrotman | !tell Shaggy2 about usb install |
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| 12:46.31 | Shaggy2 | ok I'm a dick, I just remembered I have a external usb dvd drive for my laptop der dips*#t |
| 12:46.33 | Shaggy2 | lol |
| 12:47.58 | Eightamr0ck | Hey guys QQ, out of the box apache runs as www-data... for any app that needs to write to the filesystem, should I chown the writeable directory to www-data? or is there a more secure way to do it? |
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| 12:49.22 | abrotman | Eightamr0ck: that is one way, just remember that if there is a compromise, that attacker can write anything they want there |
| 12:49.49 | jelly | Eightamr0ck: or chgrp to www-data and make it g+w |
| 12:49.53 | th0r | Eightamr0ck: I think just making the group www-data should work. |
| 12:50.10 | Eightamr0ck | so just change the group now the owner |
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| 12:51.10 | Eightamr0ck | @jelly 775 on the files then? |
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| 12:51.39 | jelly | Eightamr0ck: do they need to be executable? |
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| 12:52.00 | Eightamr0ck | nope just read and write 755 |
| 12:52.12 | abrotman | that;s not 755 |
| 12:52.31 | th0r | Eightamr0ck: 664 |
| 12:52.37 | Eightamr0ck | sorry, 664 |
| 12:52.38 | abrotman | way to ruin the suspense ... |
| 12:52.39 | Eightamr0ck | yeah |
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| 12:53.01 | th0r | remember, there are 10 kinds of people in the world |
| 12:53.18 | hid3 | yeah |
| 12:53.22 | hid3 | those who know binary |
| 12:53.25 | hid3 | and those who don't |
| 12:53.38 | abrotman | possibly even 660 |
| 12:54.09 | bruce14 | there are 2 kinds of people in the world, those who understand hex and those who don't. ^.^ |
| 12:54.24 | max_sharpe | wait |
| 12:54.30 | Eightamr0ck | I appreciate the help |
| 12:54.37 | max_sharpe | binary is the use of zeros and ones correct? |
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| 12:54.50 | max_sharpe | so 0 = 0 |
| 12:54.54 | optraz | jelly: i just want two or three entries for local map hostname to local ip address. that's it |
| 12:54.55 | Eightamr0ck | So leaving the user as owner but changing the group to www-data is more secure than changing user and group |
| 12:54.55 | max_sharpe | 1 = 1 |
| 12:55.00 | max_sharpe | Only 2 states. |
| 12:55.07 | red_rail | max_sharpe: correct... but its more than just on or off... it can represent numbers |
| 12:55.14 | max_sharpe | yeah i know that. |
| 12:55.29 | max_sharpe | nevermind i get it now |
| 12:55.32 | Shaggy2 | ok maybe the intall will work from the usb cd drive, if the pc would power up AHHHRG, it was working this monring in the lounge room hooked to the TV |
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| 12:56.09 | jelly | optraz: I guess you could use the auth-zones= thing... haven't tried it at all, tho |
| 12:56.34 | jelly | still running a lot of stuff on djbdns' dnscache |
| 12:57.10 | optraz | jelly: http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/PowerDNSSetup |
| 12:57.16 | optraz | is that answer what i want? |
| 12:57.20 | optraz | sorry, no dns expert here |
| 12:57.27 | jelly | optraz: I have no idea -- it says LDAP :-) |
| 12:57.30 | optraz | but i do not need full fledge feature like ldap |
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| 12:58.46 | jelly | optraz: I'd set up a small authoritative DNS for your domain and override root servers with something like forward-zones, but I don't really know if that's the optimal approach for pdns_recursor |
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| 12:59.01 | jelly | optraz: there's a nice #powerdns channel on irc.oftc.net |
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| 13:05.05 | nsadmin | I have this interruot 19, which is shared between sata controller and sound... can I change that? |
| 13:05.36 | fossala | I'm trying to install Debian on a ppc g4 mac. Installed X and when it trys to load X it just freezes (cannot change ttys). |
| 13:05.51 | fossala | Can I boot into runlevel 3 with yaboot? |
| 13:06.13 | jelly | nsadmin: without hardware shuffling? You might if any of the drivers for either of the two support and work with MSI interrupts |
| 13:06.15 | nsadmin | well the first question is can you boot at all |
| 13:06.17 | abrotman | nsadmin: depends on the motherboard usually ... |
| 13:06.28 | abrotman | nsadmin: and if they're both on-board .. gets less likely |
| 13:06.57 | nsadmin | it's a dell 15R series laptop with amd64x2 or maybe x3 |
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| 13:07.23 | p0g0 | might get another sound card in that case, and shut off the motherboard sound hardware. |
| 13:07.27 | jelly | nsadmin: ie. if the sound is using snd-hda-intel driver, try giving it enable_msi=1 option on modprobe |
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| 13:07.47 | nsadmin | ok, so when I insert snd-hda-intel, it shuts off irq 19, saying "nobody cared" |
| 13:07.52 | jelly | nsadmin: modinfo modulename gives out module params |
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| 13:09.57 | nsadmin | jelly, well snd-hda-intel is blacklisted right now, I could try that |
| 13:10.02 | apollo13 | hi, how can I get the cups webinterface to let me in? I always get a 401 :/ |
| 13:10.09 | jelly | nsadmin: blacklisted? |
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| 13:10.24 | nsadmin | yeah, I blacklisted it |
| 13:10.44 | jelly | nsadmin: that was just an example -- I don't know whether that's the actual driver for you to use |
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| 13:11.17 | nsadmin | jelly: what would be my situation once I do that? |
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| 13:11.59 | jelly | if it works, it works |
| 13:12.17 | nsadmin | ok |
| 13:12.27 | jelly | if your motherboard/chipset isn't well made, MSI might not work |
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| 13:13.24 | nsadmin | but if it is, then what, it might pick a different irq? |
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| 13:13.43 | jelly | lspci (with one or two -v) shows whether the pciexpress card in question supports it |
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| 13:14.13 | jelly | nsadmin: yeah, then it uses a different way of assigning IRQs |
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| 13:14.45 | jelly | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Message_Signaled_Interrupts |
| 13:14.57 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.44 | jelly | be root |
| 13:15.46 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:15.57 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 13:16.09 | nsadmin | it says access denied for caps |
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| 13:16.19 | jelly | be... roooooooot!!!1 |
| 13:16.38 | Keizer | How can I get currently installed package data for packagename? |
| 13:16.51 | abrotman | huh? |
| 13:17.04 | Keizer | rpm -qa |grep packagename |
| 13:17.08 | Keizer | equivalent |
| 13:17.19 | claw | Keizer, apt-cache show packagename |
| 13:17.21 | jelly | Keizer: dpkg -l |
| 13:17.27 | Keizer | pwn |
| 13:17.46 | jelly | Keizer: you may give dpkg -l a packagename if you want |
| 13:18.05 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.28 | Keizer | jelly Pigs have flewn |
| 13:18.40 | jelly | Keizer: nowai |
| 13:19.08 | jelly | !refcard |
| 13:19.09 | dpkg | A short reference of Debian commands - quite useful for someone new to Debian - can be found at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/refcard/refcard.en.pdf and packaged for Debian as debian-refcard. See also <grounding>, <vim refcard>. |
| 13:19.13 | nsadmin | theres another capabilities line: Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3 |
| 13:19.37 | plugwash | While trying to build a latex document on debian I get an error message about utf-8.def, I've tried doing a search on this and it seems to find two copies but both are in documentation directories rather than installed anywhere useful |
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| 13:20.07 | jelly | nsadmin: yeah well, MSI is what's interesting for you. rmmod the sound driver, try to modprobe it again manually, see what happens in dmesg and /proc/interrupts |
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| 13:20.57 | jelly | nsadmin: the ata controller driver might also support MSI. I _think_ it's disabled by default because it's not always safe |
| 13:21.27 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.27 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.27 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.35 | nsadmin | what tends to make it unsafe? |
| 13:21.51 | jelly | crappy hardware I guess |
| 13:21.52 | nsadmin | wait, hold that thougt :) |
| 13:22.01 | nsadmin | oh ok, anyway brb |
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| 13:26.06 | nsadmin | jelly, it is the ata driver that is also involved... well, sata |
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| 13:30.35 | nsadmin | jelly, here's the capabilities lines of the sata controller: Capabilities: [70] SATA HBA v1.0 InCfgSpace |
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| 13:32.57 | BluePeppers | I'm having some problems getting the lighttpd package to install, complaining about "Broken packages". Seems to be a problem with missing perl-api, though perl-base is installed. apt-get output is here: http://pastebin.com/VJKk6bqh |
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| 13:33.19 | nsadmin | BluePeppers, mixed system? |
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| 13:34.27 | BluePeppers | nsadmin, could be, what should I do to revert the perl-base package back to the squeeze version? |
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| 13:35.57 | nsadmin | the worst-case motion tends to be that it pulls more and more from the source that has the latest version of each involved package |
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| 13:36.28 | nsadmin | but you could try getting the .debs and install them by dpkg |
| 13:36.58 | BluePeppers | aha! yes, the perl-base in squeeze is 5.10.1, but the version i have is 5.12, which is from sid. |
| 13:36.59 | wols | ,versions libterm-readline-perl-perl |
| 13:36.59 | judd | Package libterm-readline-perl-perl on i386 -- lenny: 1.0302-1; sid: 1.0303-1; squeeze: 1.0303-1; wheezy: 1.0303-1 |
| 13:37.13 | wols | now that is a fscked up package name! |
| 13:37.36 | nsadmin | it's very difficult to know how far your system has been pulled away from squeeze... so the best that can be said is your milage may vary |
| 13:37.47 | BluePeppers | I guess the easiest thing to do is just upgrade everything to sid then |
| 13:37.47 | wols | BluePeppers: naughty. and dangerous. mixing perl versions is icky since debconf depends very much on perl |
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| 13:38.15 | BluePeppers | wols, would never have happened if debian had an up to date version of transmission :P |
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| 13:38.51 | nsadmin | BluePeppers, that's one way to go... but you could be jummping from the frying pan to the fire |
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| 13:40.15 | BluePeppers | nsadmin, sounds like fun |
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| 13:40.23 | nsadmin | wols, would you say that as long as you stay below perl 6 that perl is fairly solid? |
| 13:40.38 | abrotman | judd: versions transmission |
| 13:40.38 | judd | Package transmission on i386 -- lenny: 1.22-1+lenny2; lenny-security: 1.22-1+lenny2; lenny-backports: 1.77-1~bpo50+2; sid: 2.03-2; squeeze: 2.03-2; wheezy: 2.03-2; experimental: 2.10-2; experimental: 2.11-1; experimental: 2.32-1 |
| 13:41.01 | abrotman | BluePeppers: squeeze and sid have the same version ... |
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| 13:42.21 | mallery | What does it mean, when my pc crashes (black screen and no reaction) and the led of button over the shift key is blinking ?? |
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| 13:43.38 | Keizer | mallery: That means it's time for a snack |
| 13:43.43 | jelly | mallery: kernel paniced and died |
| 13:43.44 | ompaul | mallery: is it that your machine has gone into suspend try some ESC space bar mouse single short push of power button |
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| 13:44.10 | ompaul | jelly: don't be frightening the kernel then :) |
| 13:44.16 | jelly | ompaul: _keyboard_ leds blinking = kernel panic |
| 13:44.27 | bahamas | hello. i have a dell inspiron n3010 on which i installed the latest debian stable release. the issue is that tapping twice on the touchpad, doesn't correspond to a click. any idea why? |
| 13:44.34 | mallery | Why could that happen ? |
| 13:44.45 | jelly | ompaul: power led blinking = suspend, maybe |
| 13:46.00 | jelly | mallery: this means an irreversible bug in the kernel; it could be due to any number of reasons, including buggy nonfree or free drivers; unsupported hardware; less often, bad hardware |
| 13:46.33 | mallery | hmm..... |
| 13:46.41 | mallery | and how to specify the source of problem ? |
| 13:46.45 | mallery | any log ? |
| 13:47.20 | jelly | mallery: you'd need to enable some sort of logging for kernel crashes first -- typically the kernel _tries_ to log an informative message to the console |
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| 13:47.39 | Keizer | mallery: dmesg can help sometimes or /var/log/messages |
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| 13:48.12 | wols | I've never seen any fatal crash having time/capability to write to logfiles. screen: maybe. disk: never |
| 13:48.16 | jelly | mallery: if the console is dead or black, you won't be able to see it. Configuring a serial console, if you have a proper serial port, would be helpful |
| 13:48.38 | mallery | jelly, I already restarted |
| 13:48.41 | mallery | rebooted |
| 13:48.47 | mallery | after black screen |
| 13:49.04 | nsadmin | jelly, so when I did the modprobe of snd-hda-intel, it disabled irq 19 again... |
| 13:49.05 | jelly | mallery: you've lost any debugging info, then |
| 13:49.10 | mallery | hm.... |
| 13:49.24 | jelly | nsadmin: modprobe with enable_msi=1 ? |
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| 13:49.43 | nsadmin | so if the sata is on irq 19, should I try enable_msi=1 on that? (yes) |
| 13:50.18 | jelly | nsadmin: ahci driver ought to switch to msi by default if it's able to |
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| 13:51.17 | nsadmin | what's ahci for? usb? |
| 13:51.23 | jelly | nsadmin: SATA |
| 13:51.25 | chenthu | wols: i think mallery has similar problem like mine loggig in cause its same as my scrambled screen but he is getting a black screen |
| 13:51.30 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 13:52.09 | jelly | chenthu: it's not just scrambled. The blinking kbd lights indicate a complete panic, the system is kaputt |
| 13:52.53 | nsadmin | kaputt being a technical term... |
| 13:53.01 | mallery | german term |
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| 13:53.23 | chenthu | mallery: i think u will have the log info....after u get the black screen and u r not abloe to respond just close ur system by pressing and hoolding down the power key then reboot into recovery mode and u will be taken to a terminal then u can find what evr log files you want |
| 13:53.55 | jelly | nsadmin: jaa |
| 13:53.58 | wols | chenthu: do you have wlan access now? |
| 13:54.19 | chenthu | jelly: hmmmm.....k....this is what i could think abt now....lol |
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| 13:54.39 | alex-- | Can I disable the root account? |
| 13:54.58 | chenthu | wols: nope...but i have logged into a live system and i have access to inetrnet using my 3g stick |
| 13:55.07 | wols | alex--: you can. but make sure your sudo works before you do |
| 13:55.24 | alex-- | Why should I use root instead of sudo? |
| 13:55.30 | wols | alex--: passwd, the -d and -l options. see man passwd |
| 13:55.35 | jelly | alex--: why not |
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| 13:55.42 | nsadmin | alex--, they're essentially the same thing |
| 13:55.48 | alex-- | insecure |
| 13:55.53 | alex-- | every command is as root |
| 13:55.53 | jelly | alex--: how so? |
| 13:55.58 | wols | chenthu: shit. I hate broadcom hardware |
| 13:56.04 | alex-- | every person who tries to break in knows that he haves to login with the username root |
| 13:56.31 | wols | alex--: not true |
| 13:56.38 | jelly | alex--: remote access to "root" can be, and often is disabled |
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| 13:57.00 | alex-- | So I can't use root either? |
| 13:57.01 | wols | alex--: you can use any name for "root": as long as the UID is 0, this account has superuser priviledges. you can give several accounts the UID 0 even |
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| 13:58.08 | alex-- | I've been using ubuntu |
| 13:58.13 | alex-- | And I prefer sudo |
| 13:58.20 | chenthu | wols: yeah i know....i have been through a lot these few days....but i have internet using my 3g stick on my live system |
| 13:58.43 | nsadmin | alex--, cdrtainly if your machine directly faces the net you have more to worry about |
| 13:58.50 | jelly | alex--: you can keep using it. It's just a policy or a preference. |
| 13:59.15 | alex-- | Ok |
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| 14:03.09 | wols | chenthu: it would drive me nuts :) |
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| 14:05.52 | nsadmin | jelly, how would I find out if the sata driver is doing msi? |
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| 14:06.46 | jelly | nsadmin: modinfo ? |
| 14:06.58 | jelly | nsadmin: which driver are you using? |
| 14:07.07 | nsadmin | not sure yet |
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| 14:07.42 | chenthu | wols: lol |
| 14:07.47 | nsadmin | I guess it is ahci... but is that the underlying device driver? |
| 14:08.01 | jelly | nsadmin: that _is_ the device driver |
| 14:08.19 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 14:10.03 | nsadmin | there[s only one parameter parm: marvell_enable:Marvell SATA via AHCI (1 = enabled) (int) |
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| 14:10.39 | wols | chenthu: here in .de, 3G data is very expensive, especially compared to normal broadband. |
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| 14:14.12 | chenthu | can every one see what i tyoe... i got dced but i am back |
| 14:14.25 | nsadmin | brb, let me see what I can see in the bios |
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| 14:15.57 | wols | chenthu: 16:11 < wols> chenthu: here in .de, 3G data is very expensive, especially compared to normal broadband. was the last thing relevant for you before you timed out |
| 14:16.09 | wols | chenthu: another 3G disadvantage: the connections are less reliable :P |
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| 14:17.47 | chenthu | wols: hmmm...same as here..but due to heavy competitions prices have come down..now i have connected using my android...through usb and i could use the net |
| 14:17.57 | ParkerR | wols the dual monitors are working nicely :) |
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| 14:22.08 | treebeen | how much issue do you have with sid? anyone using sid as their main machine? |
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| 14:27.28 | jelly | treebeen: yes, there are people doing that. Why do you ask? |
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| 14:33.22 | wols | treebeen: lets put it this way: there is no security support at all, and everytime you install a package you have a lottery of "how long does it take me to fix it until it works again" |
| 14:33.35 | wols | if you are fine with that, go ahead. if not... |
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| 14:34.33 | treebeen | well, i have sid here now. i just would like to know how much problems you get on average... but I will find out myself, just takes a few months :) |
| 14:34.35 | chenthu | guys is there a possible for me to overcome my display as well as wifi issue by loading a live system...so that i could install the drivers from my live system to my fixed system? |
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| 14:35.20 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'wl' by key (15 of 136): CMD: crawlsmite (.*?) ;; awll5077 ;; dwl-120+ ;; dwl-122 ;; dwl-610 ;; dwl610 ;; dwl650+ ;; iwl4965 ;; mwl8k ;; wl ;; wl-1600usb ;; wl-169ge ;; wl-433 ;; wlan-ng ;; wlc_hybrid. |
| 14:35.21 | dimmATwerk2 | anyone have a decent understanding of pm-utils' hooks? trying to figure out how parameters get passed to hooks |
| 14:35.38 | jhutchins_lt | chenthu: It is possible to figure out exactly what the problems on your installed system are and fix them. Simply copying something from a live CD is unlikely to take care of the problem. |
| 14:36.06 | p0g0 | chenthu: you can see what drivers are being used in the live system, and apply that to your failed system, for a start. It's likely that the live system is using the framebuffer driver anyway. |
| 14:36.35 | nsadmin | !wl |
| 14:36.36 | dpkg | wl is Broadcom's proprietary wireless LAN driver (x86, x86-64 only). Supports BCM4312 LP-PHY (802.11g) and BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225 (802.11n) chipsets; 43227 and 43228 are supported in <testing>. Monitor mode is not available. To install, see http://wiki.debian.org/wl . See also <brcm80211>. For support of other Broadcom PCI(-E) chipsets, ask me about <b43>. |
| 14:36.54 | chenthu | jhutchins_lt: k.... |
| 14:36.58 | jelly | /msg the bloody bot! |
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| 14:37.30 | chenthu | p0g0: hey i was serching for you but now here u are.... and ok how to do that?...how can i copy the files for my display driver issue |
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| 14:38.50 | chenthu | p0g0: pm? |
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| 14:39.23 | p0g0 | chenthu: I'm only here for a moment. lsmod will list the kernel modules you are now using- one (or more of them) of them will be the video driver. you can also examine the /etc/X11 stuff on the working system. I have to go, sry. |
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| 14:41.32 | chenthu | p0g0: thats ok...thank you and bye |
| 14:41.38 | Woet | I have problem with the network configuration of ipv6 in combination with bonding. more details at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=67486 - anyone got a clue? |
| 14:43.03 | rozie | Woet: what is your problem, exactly? |
| 14:43.13 | Woet | rozie: did you look at the bottom of the post? |
| 14:43.29 | Woet | rozie: it has a list of commands/results and a summary of the two problems |
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| 14:45.26 | zach23 | Does this mean my drive is screwed or that the upgrade from lenny to squeeze didnt upgrade a driver properly: http://imgur.com/hTdbI |
| 14:46.01 | rozie | Woet: why do you use up /sbin/ifconfig bond0 inet6 add xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:1::2 not address xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:1::1 ? |
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| 14:46.29 | Woet | rozie: because 1::1 is already started by the iface, and the 'up' lines are for the additional IPs. |
| 14:48.16 | jhutchins_lt | chenthu: Don't copy files. Use the apt system to install packages. |
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| 14:48.48 | jhutchins_lt | chenthu: Do you know what chipsets you have for video and wifi? |
| 14:49.22 | rozie | Woet: multiple address lines are not allowed? |
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| 14:50.11 | nsadmin | this is one line of the output of a build of the wl module: /usr/src/modules/broadcom-sta/amd64/src/wl/sys/wl_linux.c:1435: error: âstruct net_deviceâ has no member named âmc_listâ |
| 14:50.55 | nsadmin | is it that a header file is missing? (there is not an error suggesting same) |
| 14:51.08 | zach23 | Is there anything I can do - my debian system does not come up at all : http://imgur.com/hTdbI |
| 14:51.11 | Woet | rozie: i'm sorry, but are you just guessing or you are sure? |
| 14:51.15 | Woet | rozie: but you are not making any sense. |
| 14:51.47 | rozie | guessing |
| 14:51.58 | jelly | zach23: does the system hang after that? |
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| 14:52.18 | Woet | rozie: well, multiple address lines aren't allowed - hence the 'up' bit. |
| 14:52.25 | zach23 | jelly: yes...messages about getty not being able to run and then just hangs |
| 14:52.33 | jhutchins_lt | zach23: Looks like it's checking sda5 |
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| 14:52.55 | jelly | zach23: it looks as if the scsi (raid) controller driver is having some trouble |
| 14:53.11 | zach23 | jelly: we upgraded to squeeze from lenny...what can I do at this point? |
| 14:53.28 | jelly | zach23: if there is a RAID controller BIOS, can you look at the state of your array(s) from there |
| 14:54.11 | zach23 | jelly: ok - it's megaraid.. the arrays looked fine on BIOS check..we did check |
| 14:54.27 | jelly | zach23: they might be ok, and then it's probably just a kernel regression; try a livecd with a newer or different kernel |
| 14:55.01 | zach23 | jelly: yeah i'm downloading ubuntu live cd and will see...what else can i do (for debian squeeze) |
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| 14:56.08 | jelly | zach23: say, grml.org -- it uses 2.6.38 which is a bit different; when you boot a livecd that acts stable, you can mount and chroot into your system, install a different, newer kernel from squeeze-backports, reboot into that and see if it works better |
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| 14:56.49 | jelly | dpkg, tell zach23 about squeeze-backports |
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| 14:57.14 | zach23 | jelly: ahh thanks, i didnt even know of grml |
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| 14:57.23 | jelly | zach23: you might also try and see if there's a firmware update for the controller |
| 14:57.29 | Raccoon1400 | can someone tell me what this means? It's test data for a hard drive. http://pastebin.com/j1FQ6haw |
| 14:57.52 | zach23 | jelly: but if it's the kernel, it was working fine on lenny..it's a major raid card..dontk know why... |
| 14:57.54 | jelly | zach23: ubuntu ought to be good enough |
| 14:58.27 | jelly | zach23: regression bugs happen; sometimes things break in _newer_ versions |
| 14:58.34 | Raccoon1400 | grml is great for usb. You can just dd the image to the drive. I just saved my roomates files with it |
| 14:59.37 | rozie | Raccoon1400: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 079 079 010 Pre-fail Always - 435 |
| 14:59.38 | jelly | I like grml because is Debian-based and has a decent selection of tools for rescue and admin purposes |
| 14:59.52 | rozie | means this drive has badblocks |
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| 15:00.19 | zach23 | jelly: so during the check it gets to 70% and the others are clean from fsck...do you think the driver hit something that tripped it out? |
| 15:00.24 | Raccoon1400 | rozie: can it be saved? |
| 15:00.30 | rozie | no |
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| 15:00.41 | rozie | you can save as much data, as you can |
| 15:00.53 | rozie | I'd use ddrescue for this |
| 15:01.07 | rozie | but I wouldn't put anything valuable on it |
| 15:01.12 | Raccoon1400 | data has already been saved. |
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| 15:01.22 | Raccoon1400 | so the drive isn't saveable? |
| 15:01.58 | rozie | it has hardware errors |
| 15:02.04 | rozie | damaged surface OSLT |
| 15:02.07 | rozie | bbl |
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| 15:02.39 | jhutchins_lt | Raccoon1400: If the badblocks are not changing, you might be able to use the drive. If they are changing, the drive is failing and will soon be unusable. |
| 15:02.56 | Raccoon1400 | jhutchins_It: how do I figure that out? |
| 15:03.18 | jelly | zach23: the controller or the drive stopped responding to SCSI commands. It might be a bug in the driver, or in the controller, or you might need to wait for the controller to detect array failure. Can't really know |
| 15:03.19 | jhutchins_lt | Raccoon1400: Check it more than once. |
| 15:03.58 | nsadmin | if it has a dammaged surface you need to replace it |
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| 15:04.08 | jelly | zach23: does it always happen in the exact same place (percentage?) on repeated reboot |
| 15:04.19 | twobitsprite | when does linux attempt to resolve a name using secondary nameservers (i.e., second and third entries in resolv.conf)... is it only when the first isn't reachable, or should it try them if the first returns NXDOMAIN? |
| 15:04.21 | zach23 | jelly: yes, around that mark, yes |
| 15:04.25 | zach23 | jelly: 70% or so |
| 15:04.28 | zach23 | 70.3 |
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| 15:05.25 | jelly | zach23: and I guess you can't boot the .26 kernel? |
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| 15:06.44 | zach23 | jelly: yes .26 kernel and no, it's not the same..it's always past 70...now it's 76% as opposed to 70% |
| 15:06.53 | jhutchins_lt | zach23: hat's on that partition? |
| 15:07.24 | nsadmin | jelly: so about the ahci module, it only has one param that doesn't have to do with interrupts, and the bios doesn't seem to have anything where you can move interrupts |
| 15:07.43 | jelly | zach23: that's good I guess, it probably means it's a software/firmware issue rather than the array or one of the members gone |
| 15:08.02 | jelly | nsadmin: ahci uses msi for me |
| 15:08.13 | zach23 | jelly: no .32 |
| 15:08.29 | jelly | zach23: can you boot the old one? |
| 15:08.30 | Raccoon1400 | jhutchins: here is another set of data http://pastebin.com/KEYuyw4u |
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| 15:09.29 | jelly | nsadmin: I don't know how it chooses to enable it, could be a whitelist/blacklist of chipsets |
| 15:09.35 | zach23 | jelly: no...that one doesnt even find the root filesystem.now it's 85% - maybe i'll keep doing it until it's 100% - ha |
| 15:09.39 | nsadmin | and, when I inserted the snd-intel-hda module, it's the same as usual, which is that a supposedly spurious interrupt on irq 19 that causes it to be shut down, which slows down disk reads |
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| 15:10.20 | jelly | nsadmin: only slows down? I'd expect disk io to be gone as well at that point |
| 15:11.04 | nsadmin | I think it turns on a polling mode |
| 15:11.10 | jelly | nsadmin: I'd try a newer kernel just for fun |
| 15:11.12 | nsadmin | it works but it crawls |
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| 15:11.37 | nsadmin | I'm at .38-bpo npw |
| 15:11.39 | jelly | nsadmin: are you using any nondefault boot parameters |
| 15:11.41 | nsadmin | now |
| 15:12.00 | nsadmin | no, I let update-grub do its thing |
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| 15:12.36 | nsadmin | the only thing that's not normal is I have snd-hda-intel blacklisted because of this |
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| 15:15.23 | jelly | nsadmin: pastebin your kern.log or dmesg before/after doing "rmmod snd-hda-intel" and "modprobe snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1" |
| 15:15.43 | johan_gbg | hello |
| 15:15.48 | jelly | nsadmin: oh and /proc/interrupts |
| 15:16.00 | davro | Everytime I the grub boot selector with a usb keyboard the keyboard does not work I have to use a PS 2 keyboard is the usb subsystem not loaded or is there a special trick I am missing ? |
| 15:16.16 | abrotman | grub1 or 2? |
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| 15:16.23 | davro | 2 |
| 15:16.39 | nsadmin | jelly. one sec... you want me to pastebin kern.log, rmmod snd-hda-intel, pastebin kern.log? |
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| 15:17.37 | jelly | nsadmin: or just the latter and mark where you did rmmod and modprobe |
| 15:18.00 | davro | abrotman I have usb support and legacy support turned on in the bios |
| 15:18.57 | nsadmin | jelly, so the first rmmod should do nothing if it's done sometime after I reboo and before I modprobe the snd driver |
| 15:19.06 | nsadmin | brb |
| 15:19.30 | jelly | nsadmin: what? Don't reboot, who said anything about reboot |
| 15:20.01 | abrotman | davro: there is a module for grub also |
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| 15:20.59 | davro | abrotman a grub module ? |
| 15:21.12 | abrotman | i think |
| 15:21.55 | abrotman | davro: /boot/grub/usb_keyboard.mod .. but i do not remember how to verify it's being loaded |
| 15:22.21 | davro | abrotman I will check it out ta |
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| 15:24.15 | nsadmin | jelly, as of now, we're at "never inserted snd-hda-intel since last reboot" |
| 15:24.24 | zach23 | jelly: it isn't the drive; ubuntu picked it up; did a fsck in ubuntu and all passed...so now what are my options..grml? |
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| 15:27.19 | nsadmin | jelly, does that change what you want to see? |
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| 15:27.44 | jelly | zach23: chroot into the system, see if 2.6.38 from backports works better |
| 15:28.03 | jelly | nsadmin: nah, it just means you don't have to rmmod |
| 15:28.15 | zach23 | jelly: thank you - odd i cant find much on this online |
| 15:28.23 | nsadmin | btw, I think I tried removing the module some months ago, and the irq still stayed disabled |
| 15:28.48 | jelly | nsadmin: yeah, I don't really know if kernel ever reenables an irq |
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| 15:29.06 | DexterF | hi |
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| 15:29.44 | nsadmin | I wonder if anyone ever wrote a module that just enables it in its init code and then you can remove it |
| 15:29.58 | DexterF | trying to install 6.0.2 from CD1 from a USB dvdrom. installer starts, then says "cannot find the medium" |
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| 15:30.10 | DexterF | my options? |
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| 15:35.19 | rockenrola | how do I check which options were used to build a package in debian? |
| 15:37.37 | nsadmin | look at debian/rules for the ./configure invocation |
| 15:37.44 | nsadmin | this won't work for all packages |
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| 15:38.10 | nsadmin | normally debian/rules is a makefile |
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| 15:40.24 | rockenrola | thanks |
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| 15:41.57 | ||arifaX | my /var/spool/syslog is empty. even after a "logger -s test" - ist that normal? |
| 15:42.47 | petemc | ||arifaX: you mean /var/log/syslog ? |
| 15:42.58 | ||arifaX | petemc: yes |
| 15:43.09 | petemc | it shouldnt be empty |
| 15:43.30 | petemc | ps aux|grep rsys |
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| 15:44.49 | ||arifaX | petemc: I am not sure, I did some changes to rsyslogd.conf to exclude Hylafax program messing up logfiles (I think that part was ok) and then I stopped rsyslogd deletet *.gz in log dir and restarted it. since then it is messed up |
| 15:44.53 | ||arifaX | petemc: root 5773 0.4 0.0 29244 1408 ? Sl 17:35 0:02 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c4 |
| 15:45.53 | nsadmin | ok, I got those logs |
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| 15:46.32 | nsadmin | do you want me to try removing now? |
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| 15:46.41 | nsadmin | jelly |
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| 15:48.03 | martianlobster | I want to give a directory permission so that anyone can add or delete files to it. I tried a chmod +x dirname, but that doesn't work. How can I add write permission for a directory? |
| 15:50.19 | colo-work | chmod a+wx <directory> |
| 15:50.35 | colo-work | makes all users able to change into the directory, and add/remove files to/from it |
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| 15:51.01 | martianlobster | colo-work, thanks |
| 15:51.24 | ksk | they can delete created by other users, too |
| 15:51.31 | ksk | +files |
| 15:51.41 | anoob | i've followed this steps: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#non-free_drivers . Now i want to reinstall the driver. How could i remove everything related to nvidia to reinstall? |
| 15:52.00 | jhutchins_lt | anoob: Why? |
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| 15:53.20 | FDFlock | Hello! A quick question: Installing and booting an AMD64 kernel in a 32bit Debian squeeze installation is 100% safe, right? |
| 15:53.26 | FDFlock | for testing purposes |
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| 15:54.41 | rhineshell | hello out there, since when has debian the eglibc instead of the normal big glibc? |
| 15:54.54 | aPpYe | if I were to simply alias diff for vimdiff will that make it work for when apt offers to show me the difference between a new and an old config file? |
| 15:54.57 | rhineshell | i think that was 2007? |
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| 15:55.30 | aPpYe | I guess ... do they share the same basic switches and syntax? |
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| 15:55.38 | anoob | jhutchins_lt, i can't run games, i will reinstall it and try again ... |
| 15:55.44 | faca | hi all, where is /sys ? |
| 15:56.30 | faca | what's this dir : "/sys" |
| 15:56.31 | cafuego | faca: funny question |
| 15:56.37 | cafuego | !lsb |
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| 15:56.37 | dpkg | Linux Standard Base, a set of guidelines which all linux distributions should follow to ensure compatability between them. http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb . See also <lsb tags>. |
| 15:56.44 | FDFlock | aPpYe: I don't think that a simple alias would work, anyway (not sure though) |
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| 15:57.15 | FDFlock | faca: The full path of /sys happens to be "/sys" |
| 15:57.15 | cafuego | FDFlock: Provided apt is run inreactively, yes it should. |
| 15:57.39 | cafuego | faca: It's esentially the replacement for a bunch of stuff that used to live in /proc |
| 15:57.43 | aPpYe | hmm. How do I find out what syntax apt passes to diff when offering to show differences? |
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| 15:58.01 | cafuego | faca: Plus a whole lot of other stuff that didn't really have aplace or didn't exist some years ago. |
| 15:58.36 | faca | cafuego, Del: |
| 15:58.36 | faca | Al: |
| 15:58.37 | faca | traducci?n del espa?ol al ingl?s |
| 15:58.37 | faca | clear. That's what I'm seeing. It looks like a / proc2 xD |
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| 15:58.50 | FDFlock | aPpYe: You can replace diff with a shell script that outputs its own arguments (temporarily, of course) |
| 15:58.55 | faca | ufff, very restricted. sorry. |
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| 15:59.26 | aPpYe | FDFlock: I think I am not sure how to do that ... |
| 15:59.51 | FDFlock | aPpYe: eg. |
| 15:59.56 | FDFlock | #!/bin/bash |
| 16:00.00 | FDFlock | echo "$@" |
| 16:00.16 | FDFlock | these 2 lines in an executable file would probably work |
| 16:00.17 | faca | cafuego, But this dir create in boot no? |
| 16:00.17 | ||arifaX | what would force a write to syslog so I can verify it works? |
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| 16:00.33 | colo-work | ||arifaX, check out `logger` |
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| 16:00.46 | cafuego | faca: It should exist as an empty directory at bootup, the kernel then populates it when you mount sysfs on it. |
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| 16:01.07 | FDFlock | and of course this mounting is automatic |
| 16:01.08 | faca | ok |
| 16:01.21 | cafuego | FDFlock: In sane distribution, yes. |
| 16:01.22 | rhineshell | this is it: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Debian-changes-from-GLIBC-to-EGLIBC-741455.html |
| 16:01.26 | faca | ok /sys is a /proc2 xD |
| 16:01.27 | ||arifaX | colo-work: would logger -s write to /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages ? |
| 16:01.30 | FDFlock | cafuego: yes :) |
| 16:02.01 | colo-work | ||arifaX, depends on how your syslog daemon is set up |
| 16:02.17 | colo-work | logger just invokes syslog(), a C library function. everything beyond that is black magic. |
| 16:02.26 | cafuego | ||arifaX: On std debian, it writes to /var/log/syslog |
| 16:02.36 | jelly | nsadmin: well, if it wasn't loaded, ever, you don't have to -- just try modprobe snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1 and pastebin after that |
| 16:02.46 | cafuego | ||arifaX: on *cough*defora*cough* to /var/log/messages |
| 16:02.56 | faca | cafuego, thanks |
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| 16:03.21 | cafuego | ||arifaX: To control what goes where you edit /etc/syslog.conf |
| 16:03.25 | jelly | nsadmin: I _think_ module says which irq it allocates in dmesg, when it's loaded |
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| 16:03.42 | cafuego | jelly: /proc/interrupts always shows it anyway |
| 16:04.01 | jelly | cafuego: even after the kernel disables it? |
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| 16:04.08 | FDFlock | aPpYe: first try creating a bash script like I said and testing it (very easy) |
| 16:04.09 | ||arifaX | cafuego: rsyslog.conf here (squeeze) after changes no entry in syslog. could someone verify my rsyslog.conf, please? |
| 16:04.11 | nsadmin | jelly, http://pastebin.com/XnMDRte7 <-- interrupts |
| 16:04.22 | cafuego | jelly: Oh... *that* i dunno. I suppose it ought not to :-) |
| 16:04.28 | FDFlock | aPpYe: Then type "which diff" to find its location |
| 16:04.51 | cafuego | ||arifaX: syslogd *is* running, right? |
| 16:05.00 | FDFlock | aPpYe: After that you can temporarily move diff to diff.bak (let's say) and copy your script as diff |
| 16:05.05 | FDFlock | aPpYe: As root |
| 16:05.16 | FDFlock | aPpYe: Then move it back |
| 16:05.25 | nsadmin | jelly, oh wait, the first one was kern.log |
| 16:05.35 | aPpYe | FDFlock: I am not sure how echo "$@" is going to have anything to do with diff/vimdiff? |
| 16:05.44 | nsadmin | http://pastebin.com/wiVRMqRW |
| 16:05.51 | nsadmin | that one is interrupts |
| 16:05.57 | aPpYe | i am a little confused by that ... |
| 16:06.04 | FDFlock | aPpYe: You asked how to find the arguments apt is calling diff with |
| 16:06.12 | FDFlock | aPpYe: didn't you? |
| 16:06.26 | aPpYe | FDFlock: i see ... I wasn't thinking ... copy the script as diff. |
| 16:06.35 | FDFlock | aPpYe: After finding them you can check the manpages yourself |
| 16:06.43 | ||arifaX | http://pastebin.com/Zadaedge changed the lines containing HylaFAX could someone verify my rsyslog.conf |
| 16:07.00 | FDFlock | aPpYe: careful not to lose your real diff though! ;) |
| 16:07.03 | ||arifaX | cafuego: its running |
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| 16:07.15 | lancelot_of | hi there |
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| 16:08.00 | lancelot_of | i'm trying to use deskmenu on my i3wm but i get:"Your windows manager is not deskmenu compatible". How to workaround?Is it any kind of winsuck stuff? ;) |
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| 16:08.18 | aPpYe | okay, but now we are just passing diff syntax to vimdiff ... will that work? If it does, wouldn't creating an alias as rood accomplish the same thing? |
| 16:09.04 | aPpYe | s/rood/root |
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| 16:09.36 | jelly | nsadmin: "Aug 1 07:22" is you last boot? You already have "Aug 1 07:22:22 amdlap kernel: [ 7.230544] irq 18: nobody cared" even though snd-hda-intel isn't loaded at all |
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| 16:09.49 | jelly | nsadmin: so it's not to blame |
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| 16:09.59 | FDFlock | I lost you there a bit. You'll have to check the manpages to see whether vimdiff is compatible with diff |
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| 16:10.38 | FDFlock | A quick question: Installing and booting an AMD64 kernel in a 32bit Debian squeeze installation is 100% safe, right? (for testing purposes) |
| 16:10.46 | aPpYe | FDFlock: ooooooh now I get it. this was just to find the arguements, not to actually use vimdiff as diff. This will just echo the commands to the console? |
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| 16:10.53 | FDFlock | aPpYe: Yes! |
| 16:11.06 | FDFlock | Yeap, just test it, it's useful |
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| 16:11.22 | aPpYe | FDFlock: so if the syntax is the same, then I can then simply create an alias. |
| 16:11.27 | aPpYe | ... right? |
| 16:11.38 | nsadmin | jelly, is that in the log or after the IIIIIIIIIII in the diff -u? |
| 16:11.48 | FDFlock | aPpYe: And of course you can redirect the output, eg. "echo $@ > /tmp/args.txt" |
| 16:11.55 | jelly | nsadmin: and irq 18 is associated with usb legacy drivers (ohci_hcd) |
| 16:12.08 | FDFlock | aPpYe: Yes, BUT I'm not sure whetther a simple alias would work |
| 16:12.34 | nsadmin | oh, that's irq 18 right? |
| 16:12.59 | FDFlock | Because apt might be resetting aliases, or ignore your bashrc, or... A shell guru would know ;) |
| 16:13.03 | nsadmin | I noticed that |
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| 16:13.36 | hahnp | FDFlock, what was the problem again? |
| 16:13.57 | hahnp | just joinded the channel |
| 16:14.18 | jelly | nsadmin: anyhoo, I'm afk, will be back in an hour or so |
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| 16:14.40 | FDFlock | hahnp: Mine? I asked whether booting an AMD64 kernel in a 32bit installation would be 100% safe |
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| 16:15.14 | FDFlock | hahnp: aPpYe had asked whether he can replace diff with vimdiff in apt, using a shell alias |
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| 16:15.26 | hahnp | ok thanks :) |
| 16:15.37 | nsadmin | alrighty,k thanks for hanging with me |
| 16:15.46 | lancelot_of | i'm trying to use deskmenu on my i3wm but i get:"Your windows manager is not deskmenu compatible". How to workaround?Is it any kind of winsuck stuff? ;) |
| 16:16.13 | hahnp | i had booted an 64bit kernel in a 32bit installation... and had problems |
| 16:16.17 | hahnp | kernel panic, etc |
| 16:16.30 | hahnp | so i think not 100% secure :D |
| 16:16.33 | cafuego | FDFlock: what is yer cpu? |
| 16:17.07 | FDFlock | hmm, I was going to try it only for troubleshooting (as a test), I guess that it wouldn't corrupt anything |
| 16:17.10 | FDFlock | cafuego: i3 |
| 16:17.18 | cafuego | FDFlock: yeah that'll be fine. |
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| 16:17.38 | cafuego | You might have issues on an actual 32bit copu ;-) |
| 16:17.53 | FDFlock | cafuego: It wouldn't even boot ;) |
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| 16:18.06 | cafuego | "issues" |
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| 16:18.17 | cafuego | But it wouldn't destroy anything |
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| 16:18.23 | FDFlock | It's because I'm having really strange memory addressing issues that I want to try it. |
| 16:18.41 | cafuego | You can always boot with root=/dev/wibble so it won't try to mount anything |
| 16:18.45 | FDFlock | eg. bigmem boots but I don't have graphics, things like that |
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| 16:19.07 | cafuego | if it gets to 'can't mount root fs' it'll be fine WITH a disk too :-) |
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| 16:19.45 | cafuego | I run a few 32bit systems with a 64bit kernel, but those are all Xen virtual machines. |
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| 16:20.16 | FDFlock | cafuego: What's /dev/wibble ? |
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| 16:20.36 | FDFlock | Do you mean any random non-existent string? :P |
| 16:20.48 | FDFlock | (non-existent as device) |
| 16:21.09 | nsadmin | maybe wibble is a volume group name |
| 16:21.19 | cafuego | FDFlock: indeed |
| 16:21.25 | nsadmin | in which case /dev/wibble would be a dir |
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| 16:21.58 | FDFlock | I see. |
| 16:22.22 | cafuego | Oh, i *would* run tune2fs first so that you can't accidentially hit the mount count limit and force an fsck. |
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| 16:23.10 | FDFlock | Totally unrelated: It occured to me that mounting apt-cache (/var/cache/apt/archive) on tmpfs would be a good idea, to reduce hard drive wear. |
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| 16:23.32 | FDFlock | Makes you wonder why such tweaks aren't default or selectable during installation |
| 16:23.50 | FDFlock | and of course /tmp is already on tmpfs |
| 16:23.56 | stasi | just bought a brand new DVD writer and a set of brand new CDs |
| 16:24.06 | stasi | but wodin cannot init my drive |
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| 16:24.38 | FDFlock | ...which also isn't selectable during installation |
| 16:24.41 | nsadmin | FDFlock, need for doing that would indicate you're upgradiing way way WAY too often |
| 16:24.41 | cafuego | FDFlock: the wear is negligable, why bother putting in the effort? |
| 16:24.47 | chenthu | jhutchins_lt: hey sry i was away.... yeah i know what chipsets...i have a broadcom bcm4312 wifi card and Nvidia Geforce 6150 go graphics card |
| 16:24.48 | hahnp | stasi, root? |
| 16:24.54 | stasi | yes im root |
| 16:25.07 | hahnp | what does dmesg sai? |
| 16:25.09 | hahnp | say |
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| 16:25.56 | FDFlock | cafuego: I totally agree, it's just that (1) my new SSD was WAY TOO expensive and (2) there's no real reason NOT to do it |
| 16:26.07 | FDFlock | I guess that makes me a tweaking nut |
| 16:26.57 | FDFlock | On the other hand, /tmp on tmpfs is a really good idea (for many reasons), and it should be the default IMO |
| 16:27.03 | cafuego | FDFlock: You're better off worrying which team of monkeys wrote your SSDs firmware ;-) |
| 16:27.23 | FDFlock | haha, yes |
| 16:27.28 | stasi | [14271.838795] hdb: drive not ready for command |
| 16:27.28 | stasi | [14271.843099] hdb: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } |
| 16:27.38 | stasi | i got a whole lot of those |
| 16:28.02 | FDFlock | cafuego: I had just bought that 320-series SSD and the serious Intel bug was announced the following day |
| 16:28.11 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.12 | FDFlock | rare, but it can bbrick the drive |
| 16:28.17 | stasi | dam |
| 16:28.21 | FDFlock | s/bb/b/1 |
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| 16:28.57 | stasi | could it instead be that i inserted a corrupted CD ? |
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| 16:29.42 | FDFlock | stasi: Why is it an hdb instead of "sdb" or "sr?" |
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| 16:31.25 | stasi | its hdb cause i got this line in lilo.conf: append="hdb=ide-scsi" |
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| 16:31.49 | FDFlock | oh |
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| 16:35.10 | stasi | can anyone point me to a link howto install a DVD writer ? |
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| 16:36.29 | Nu^253r | as in a physical drive stasi ? |
| 16:36.41 | stasi | yes |
| 16:37.13 | wols | nothing to it. you plug it in and boot up. what do you think is special about it? |
| 16:37.33 | stasi | ok |
| 16:37.35 | wols | IDE burners are slightly different in that there can be 2 drives per port, master/slave |
| 16:37.43 | wols | sata is point to point |
| 16:37.51 | stasi | yes its an IDE DVD writer |
| 16:38.05 | wols | is it alone on that cable? |
| 16:38.13 | Bouki | hi i've a very weird issue (not sure it's related to debian or not), since 1hour i've lost nearly all of my datas on my drive, only the most recent files are still there (5% of the whole), what should i do in first ? |
| 16:38.15 | Nu^253r | can i post a linke here? |
| 16:38.22 | stasi | no its a slave , theres a disk on the same cable |
| 16:38.26 | EmleyMoor | SATA burners are simple, IDE not overly complicated. No need for anything special to be done these days... provided of course it's recognised... |
| 16:38.35 | EmleyMoor | Nu^253r: What's it a link to? |
| 16:38.50 | Nu^253r | stasi look at this http://www.pcworld.com/article/41021/upgrade_guide_install_a_dvdrom_drive.html |
| 16:39.08 | Nu^253r | EmleyMoor what stasi wanted |
| 16:39.23 | Nu^253r | not spam i swear please dnt band me |
| 16:39.28 | wols | Bouki: lost how? |
| 16:39.48 | stasi | thanks |
| 16:39.52 | Bouki | i don't know, when i've tried to see them again, there were just gone |
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| 16:40.34 | wols | anything in your kernel log? |
| 16:40.44 | stasi | Nu^253r: Select Start, Settings, Control Panel <-- i dont use that stuff lol |
| 16:40.59 | Nu^253r | hmm sorry then wrong link |
| 16:41.00 | wols | if you deleted the files somehow, best thing is to shut down and try to use testdisk or such to undelete |
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| 16:41.24 | wols | if it's a drive failure best would be copying anything that's left to some other disk and then shut down |
| 16:41.27 | Bouki | ok, how can i see the kernel log ? |
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| 16:41.56 | stasi | hdb: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } and hdb: possibly failed opcode: 0xca and hdb: drive not ready for command <-- lots of those |
| 16:42.17 | stasi | thats from kern.log |
| 16:42.29 | stasi | but ok thanks guys |
| 16:42.46 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.16 | stasi | time for some new hardware i guess |
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| 16:44.31 | Bouki | here is my log |
| 16:44.32 | Bouki | http://pastebin.com/sdHGYdGD |
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| 16:47.32 | Bouki | how can i check if it's a hardware failure ? |
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| 16:48.38 | wols | normally SMART long test |
| 16:49.43 | Bouki | i've done a fast test, all the hdd was fine, i'm running a long one |
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| 16:51.49 | Bouki | it's extremely strange, some folders are completely empty, others partially, others untouched |
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| 16:53.44 | FDFlock | Bouki: The proper thing to do (whether it is hardware failure or not) would be shutting down the system and then booting a "live" one without mounting anything |
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| 16:53.57 | FDFlock | Bouki: Otherwise your data could be overwritten |
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| 16:54.09 | FDFlock | Bouki: But first of all check the SMART status of the disk |
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| 16:54.20 | FDFlock | Bouki: Using smartmontools |
| 16:54.43 | Bouki | well it's complicated, the server has no screen/keyboard or dvd drive, but i'll try |
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| 16:55.19 | FDFlock | Bouki: Also after booting the system you should take an image of everything (hard to do because it needs space and time, I know) |
| 16:55.29 | FDFlock | Bouki: eg. using dd |
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| 16:55.54 | FDFlock | Bouki: sounds complicated indeed! Good luck :S |
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| 16:56.07 | Bouki | the long smart test juste returned that everything is fine |
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| 16:56.14 | FDFlock | Mmmm |
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| 16:57.54 | FDFlock | Since it's a server, can you exclude the possibility that it was hacked by a malicious user/individual? |
| 16:58.18 | FDFlock | Bouki: In any case you should probably take an image of the affected partitions before trying to recover |
| 16:58.27 | FDFlock | Bouki: What's the filesystem>? |
| 16:58.53 | Bouki | i've got an apache server, but all is up to date |
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| 17:00.22 | Bouki | filesystem is ext4 for system and ntfs for data |
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| 17:00.30 | Bouki | only the ntfs is affected |
| 17:00.37 | FDFlock | Oh! |
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| 17:01.01 | FDFlock | I assume it's for sharing data with a Windows system, right? |
| 17:01.07 | Bouki | yes |
| 17:01.48 | FDFlock | You could try a Windows tool, like "recuva", but in any case take an image first, because even booting Windows could destroy your data. |
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| 17:02.08 | FDFlock | The bad thing with ntfs is the fact that it's reverse-engineered |
| 17:02.34 | latepre | can anyone explain why a sector-by-sector backup (image) is slower than a general by-file backup (image) |
| 17:02.37 | FDFlock | The ntfs-3g driver is mature and reliable (I've used it myself), but you never know |
| 17:03.01 | FDFlock | latepre: by-file, you mean an archive like tar? |
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| 17:03.08 | FDFlock | Or cpio etc? |
| 17:03.12 | latepre | FDFlock: no. not an archive |
| 17:03.28 | latepre | FDFlock: the one that acronis performs |
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| 17:03.38 | chenthu | Guys .....I have a live system, which i am able to boot up and no display problem, and i have a non live hard disk installed system which has display problems when in boot up......can i copy the configuration from the live system to the hard disk installed one, so that i can |
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| 17:04.00 | chenthu | make it work |
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| 17:04.09 | latepre | don't know how it's done but acronis has 2 differnet options.. sector-by-sector and another one (apparently, sectors are fetched per file on this one) |
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| 17:04.48 | FDFlock | latepre: No idea about acronis (other than the fact that it's Linux-based, i think) but there is absolutely no reason to use it. Linux has very powerful tools forthe same job |
| 17:05.11 | chenthu | p0g0: dude u back? |
| 17:05.26 | latepre | FDFlock: i agree. thing is, i usually use dd but saw that Acronis mentions 2 options for an image creation |
| 17:05.53 | latepre | FDFlock: http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/faq/sector-by-sector-backup/ - this is what i assume dd does |
| 17:06.01 | FDFlock | latepre: I had tried Acronis (only once) about 8 years ago :P |
| 17:06.49 | FDFlock | latepre: yes, it copies sector-by-sector, although I'd recommend using a larger block size (eg. 8MB) for better performance. |
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| 17:07.56 | latepre | FDFlock: won't that cause issues if the disk has bad sectors? |
| 17:08.42 | FDFlock | No idea, do you mean bad sectors that haven't yet been identified by the HDD firmware? |
| 17:08.45 | latepre | FDFlock: what i mean is, won't that cause more errors than if the block size was less? this way if the block size is too big - this block simply will be disregarded as i/o error |
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| 17:08.52 | FDFlock | Because those are mapped-out anyway |
| 17:09.21 | latepre | those that haven't been logically readressed |
| 17:09.55 | latepre | i mean, if you cant read from a block - you can't really copy the data from it right |
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| 17:10.48 | FDFlock | latepre: I'm not sure then, because all my drives are "healthy" (I'm also keeping md5 or sha1 checksums of all my important files). However, it is usually advised to run dd with some non-default options for this reason you mentioned |
| 17:10.57 | S4nD3r | how discover my wireless card in my notebook? |
| 17:11.10 | latepre | FDFlock: i see |
| 17:11.12 | FDFlock | S4nD3r: Use the command lspci |
| 17:11.47 | S4nD3r | Intel |
| 17:11.58 | S4nD3r | I guess its 6230 |
| 17:11.58 | FDFlock | latepre: There is also dd-rescue, which I haven't tried |
| 17:12.08 | S4nD3r | how to install it in 10.04 (2.6.32)? |
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| 17:12.28 | FDFlock | S4nD3r: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 17:12.38 | latepre | FDFlock: i have a few disks w/ I/O errors.. ran badblocks over them, fucked sectors got readressed but you can't copy over the data when do a cp (as multiple scattered blocks constitute a file right?) |
| 17:12.38 | FDFlock | Does this page cover it? |
| 17:13.47 | th0r | S4nD3r: 10.04, that is ubuntu |
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| 17:14.30 | latepre | FDFlock: what i mean is, what happens when the 'badblocks' util encounters bad sectors? those sector might be constituting a file.. it will remap physical blocks logically to the reserved blocks, but where does that leave the data? |
| 17:14.40 | latepre | sectors* |
| 17:15.52 | S4nD3r | I dont know how to discover exactelly my card |
| 17:15.53 | S4nD3r | to install |
| 17:16.28 | rozie | S4nD3r: put lspci and lspci -n output on pastebin |
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| 17:16.52 | FDFlock | latepre: I would guess that it would try to read the bad sector and copy to the healthy one before remapping (after all remapping is supposed to be transparent), but I don't know what it does when the sector is unreadable (I would guess that a completely unreadable one would be rare) |
| 17:17.11 | S4nD3r | http://pastebin.com/427tin44 |
| 17:17.19 | FDFlock | latepre: (because bad blocks can be identified by bad checksums, i think) |
| 17:18.07 | latepre | FDFlock: that's what i'm trying to find out.. the thing is, i'm cp-ing stuff and getting I/O errors (after running bb) |
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| 17:18.32 | dvs | ,pciid 8086:0091 |
| 17:18.33 | judd | [8086:0091] is 'Centrino Advanced-N 6230' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'ata_generic' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0091 |
| 17:19.02 | FDFlock | latepre: If you're getting many error, worry a lot! The drive might die VERY soon |
| 17:19.06 | latepre | FDFlock: it makes sense for it to logically remap damaged physical blocks, but what happens if there's data on them that can not be read.. i guess it probably leaves it intact |
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| 17:19.18 | FDFlock | latepre: However, try a new SATA cable first :P |
| 17:19.40 | FDFlock | latepre: Is the smart status ok? |
| 17:19.54 | S4nD3r | kernel 2.6.32 do not support this card, right? |
| 17:20.05 | latepre | FDFlock: yes i know. those HDDs are toast on SMART errors as well w/ READ DMA issues.. i'm just doing file recovery stuff for people that bring in their damaged hdds :p |
| 17:20.12 | FDFlock | ouch |
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| 17:20.13 | latepre | FDFlock: thank god those aint my drives :p |
| 17:20.37 | latepre | FDFlock: and it's all NTFS |
| 17:20.38 | Python1320 | zombie fork bombed. I didn't run out of ram but I ran out of PIDs, rofl |
| 17:20.44 | FDFlock | latepre: lol indeed (I guess Linux users care more about their hardware) |
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| 17:21.17 | latepre | FDFlock: also i can't figure out what's better to use, the driver from ntfsprogs (ntfsmount)? or linuxs native |
| 17:21.42 | FDFlock | NOT the linux native, if you mean the kernel one |
| 17:21.43 | th0r | S4nD3r: try 'modprobe ata_generic' |
| 17:21.49 | latepre | FDFlock: yes |
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| 17:22.09 | S4nD3r | th0r, only? |
| 17:22.09 | FDFlock | latepre: Also, make sure the partitions are mounted as "read-only" just in case |
| 17:22.14 | latepre | FDFlock: yea |
| 17:22.18 | S4nD3r | th0r, its ready to use? |
| 17:22.22 | latepre | FDFlock: i do a -o remount,ro :p |
| 17:22.39 | th0r | S4nD3r: no, that should get the system to recognize it, then you need to configure it to your network. |
| 17:22.46 | FDFlock | yeap, I do it too frequently :P |
| 17:22.56 | chenthu | Guys .....I have a live system, which i am able to boot up and no display problem, and i have a non live hard disk installed system which has display problems when in boot up......can i copy the configuration from the live system to the hard disk installed one, so that i can boot up and come up with noe display problems? |
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| 17:23.18 | latepre | FDFlock: most of the times linux just refuses to mount saying that NTFS is dirty.. after i perform ntfsfix and the drive is no longer marked dirty - it still refuses to mount |
| 17:23.18 | FDFlock | latepre: if all else fails (and for a limited number of files) you could probably try reading the relevant part of the disk with dd |
| 17:23.19 | S4nD3r | iwlagn 123060 0 |
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| 17:23.19 | S4nD3r | led_class 3764 1 iwlcore |
| 17:23.19 | S4nD3r | cfg80211 148341 3 iwlagn,iwlcore,mac80211 |
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| 17:23.33 | FDFlock | ouch, he was auto-kicked :P |
| 17:23.52 | latepre | FDFlock: so p much theonly option is ntfsmount -o force |
| 17:23.56 | latepre | that always works |
| 17:23.57 | latepre | but still |
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| 17:24.18 | FDFlock | latepre: Is ntfsmount the same as the ntfs-3g driver? |
| 17:24.39 | FDFlock | I would guess so |
| 17:24.42 | latepre | yes it is |
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| 17:26.36 | chenthu | babilen: dude u there? |
| 17:26.38 | FDFlock | Hmm so many people having disconnections... |
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| 17:26.55 | latepre | cp: reading `/lib/modules/2.6.39-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/tun.ko': Input/output error |
| 17:26.58 | latepre | Bus error |
| 17:26.59 | latepre | speaking of errors |
| 17:27.00 | latepre | lol |
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| 17:30.53 | FDFlock | is away |
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| 17:31.47 | jelly-home | latepre: check dmesg for block device issues |
| 17:31.55 | jelly-home | if you still can |
| 17:32.19 | latepre | yea i already did |
| 17:32.21 | latepre | its there |
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| 17:32.46 | latepre | [967135.602583] ata3.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED |
| 17:32.46 | latepre | [967135.603853] ata3.00: cmd 60/08:00:58:fc:b0/00:00:35:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in |
| 17:32.49 | latepre | [967135.603854] res 41/40:08:58:fc:b0/00:00:35:00:00/00 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F> |
| 17:32.50 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 17:32.50 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 17:32.52 | latepre | [967135.606450] ata3.00: status: { DRDY ERR } |
| 17:32.55 | latepre | [967135.607744] ata3.00: error: { UNC } |
| 17:32.58 | jelly-home | SRSLY |
| 17:33.27 | latepre | http://pastie.org/2304817 |
| 17:33.30 | latepre | RLY |
| 17:33.42 | jelly-home | latepre: you're a winner! You won a bad sector. |
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| 17:34.02 | latepre | funny thing is this is on sda |
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| 17:34.05 | latepre | and |
| 17:34.10 | latepre | smartctl -a /dev/sda|grep -i 'error c' |
| 17:34.12 | latepre | shows nothing |
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| 17:34.40 | latepre | or maybe not so funny |
| 17:34.46 | jelly-home | what did you expect it to show |
| 17:34.54 | latepre | Device Error Count? |
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| 17:35.15 | latepre | u jelly |
| 17:35.25 | latepre | of my bad secotrs |
| 17:35.36 | jelly-home | I'm always jelly |
| 17:36.01 | latepre | smartctl -x /dev/sda|grep -i 'error c' |
| 17:36.03 | latepre | Device Error Count: 76 (device log contains only the most recent 8 errors) |
| 17:36.05 | latepre | hehe |
| 17:36.17 | latepre | -a vs -x |
| 17:36.38 | jelly-home | "restore from a backup" |
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| 17:37.53 | aef | hi, i'm trying to install debian via ssh on a headless remote server via a preseeded debian-installer. after accessing the installer via ssh the installers tells me that its missing kernel modules. if i simply continue, no harddrives are found. the system is hosted at godaddy and ran fine on ubuntu with the harddisks. any idea what i'm doing wrong that the installer doesn't detect the harddrives? |
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| 17:39.16 | fret423 | hello, I have been facing some filesystem problems with my IDE (FAT cluster issues, and some hda interrupt timeouts). To solve the problem, we patched the IDE driver to enable DMA. Since this has been enabled we aren't facing any of the previous issues, but have a new problem |
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| 17:39.36 | KNUBBIG | Hey, I got a problem with proftpd. I followed this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52760 to make it work with ISPConfig and now it lets me log in but instantly loggs me out again with a 421 error message, in the logs nothing can be seen but 'trying to chroot' and then 'session closed'. Any help? |
| 17:39.53 | fret423 | On transferring files from the USB to the filesystem, the files are now getting corrupted - basically after copying the md5sum doesn't match the source |
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| 17:40.09 | fret423 | I have manually disabled dma using hdparm, and the problem goes away |
| 17:40.15 | fret423 | Does anyone know what could be causing this? |
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| 17:41.16 | blubberdiblub | fret423, bad cable or wrong dma mode or something like that maybe |
| 17:41.19 | th0r | fret423: I have run into a similar issue and traced it back to the drive requiring too much power |
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| 17:42.08 | kristian-aalborg | greetings |
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| 17:42.39 | fret423 | blubberdiblub - what cable are you referring to? I am using an embedded device, and a USB drive plugged in - so no 'cables' as such |
| 17:42.49 | kristian-aalborg | I have a laptop that won't boot from usb... can I have it boot grub on the regular hdd, then run off the usb.... and then turn off the hdd? |
| 17:42.51 | fret423 | th0r, how did you trace it back and find this problem? |
| 17:43.02 | fret423 | th0r, also how did you find out the power that it was consuming? |
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| 17:43.50 | th0r | fret423: I have a pcmcia usb hub that can use external power. I discovered the drive would corrupt if I tried to run it off an internal port, or an external port without external power, but would work fine if I plugged in the external power supply |
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| 17:44.10 | jhutchins_lt | kristian-aalborg: Yes. |
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| 17:44.33 | jhutchins_lt | kristian-aalborg: See also http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 17:45.17 | fret423 | th0r, ok makes sense - that seems unlikely for me though - using a standard usb drive on the port, and it works fine when dma is not on |
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| 17:45.49 | fret423 | blubberdiblub, also, what do you mean by 'wrong dma mode' - is there more than one? or are you referring to the different hdparm settings? |
| 17:46.06 | th0r | fret423: ok. Just one note, my external drives all work fine on my gateway netbook on the internal ports, but all require external power on my dell |
| 17:46.40 | fret423 | th0r, ok thanks. do you think dma could be causing it to draw extra power, cause it works without it |
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| 17:46.53 | kristian-aalborg | jhutchins_kc, I messed around with plop a bit in the past |
| 17:47.39 | th0r | fret423: dma speeds up the write process, which could I guess fail under marginal power |
| 17:47.58 | fret423 | th0r, is there a way to control that, or reduce the speed |
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| 17:48.27 | th0r | fret423: I have found too many things that didn't seem to correlate...finally decided to just settle for it if it works and not worry too much about 'why' |
| 17:48.43 | fret423 | th0r, we didn't really enable dma to increase the speeds, but rather to take the load of the CPU, and get rid of the FAT filesystem panic errors. so I don't mind reducing the speed again |
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| 17:48.52 | fret423 | th0r, fair enough |
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| 17:49.31 | th0r | fret423: if the drive has a power input you can use the supply from any usb hub to power it. If you have an external usb hub with a power supply, that would accompllish the same thing |
| 17:49.57 | fret423 | th0r, nope its an embedded device, with an internet port that I'm using - so none of that stuff |
| 17:50.14 | lupine_85 | ooh, harsh |
| 17:50.33 | lupine_85 | wheezy detects win7 on the disc, but doesn't add it to grub2 |
| 17:50.44 | kristian-aalborg | jhutchins_kc, will plop turn off a hdd? |
| 17:50.49 | lupine_85 | ah well |
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| 17:51.04 | robos | hello: when doing a large file copy across a NFS mount I see around 80% of load (according to top) is in iowait. Does this sound right to you? |
| 17:51.16 | th0r | fret423: you should be able to plug in a usb hub in the port you are trying to run the drive from, then plug the drive into the hub, I think |
| 17:51.21 | AwesomezGuy | i just forgot my vps's ip address |
| 17:51.26 | dvs | lupine_85: aptitude install os-prober |
| 17:51.31 | AwesomezGuy | however im connected to it on a bouncer |
| 17:51.42 | AwesomezGuy | whats the command to see all active connections |
| 17:52.00 | AwesomezGuy | ive forgotten it |
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| 17:53.17 | fret423 | th0r, ah that way - interesting idea - will give it a shot |
| 17:53.21 | valdyn_ | robos: sure thats right |
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| 17:53.36 | fret423 | however, does anyone know if speeds of transfer can be capped (when using dma) |
| 17:53.41 | jhutchins_lt | AwesomezGuy: What about ifconfig? |
| 17:53.41 | robos | valdyn_, why is that? |
| 17:53.49 | valdyn_ | robos: not having io wait on that operation would be alarming |
| 17:54.10 | robos | valdyn_, so the faster the copy the less i/o wait? |
| 17:54.12 | valdyn_ | robos: iowait is time that your cpu is idling *because* its waiting for io |
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| 17:54.36 | valdyn_ | robos: no, the less demanding on your cpu the io operation, the higher the io wait |
| 17:55.13 | robos | valdyn_, I'm confused. High io wait is high cpu load, correct? |
| 17:55.19 | valdyn_ | robos: hence on a decent system any io operation will cause high io wait instead of high cpu load |
| 17:55.24 | valdyn_ | robos: its not cpu load |
| 17:55.38 | robos | but it affects processes waiting on the cpu, right? |
| 17:55.45 | valdyn_ | robos: its the same as idle *except* that it tells you that it could be faster if your network or disk were faster |
| 17:55.48 | robos | because cpu processes are starting to back up |
| 17:56.21 | valdyn_ | robos: no, nothing is backing up |
| 17:56.44 | valdyn_ | robos: its a specific type of cpu idle |
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| 17:57.10 | robos | valdyn_, hmm. Here is what happens. NFS file copy starts and load on the box goes up to ~30 and lucene/solr (a database type application used for searches) starts to break |
| 17:57.29 | valdyn_ | robos: load doesnt have a thing to do with the cpu directly |
| 17:57.41 | valdyn_ | robos: load means "number of processes waiting" |
| 17:57.47 | robos | right |
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| 17:57.58 | valdyn_ | robos: they *can* be waiting for cpu, but in your case its i/o |
| 17:58.04 | lupine_85 | eh, it came back with a simple update-grub |
| 17:58.11 | lupine_85 | 2.6.39.... wow |
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| 17:58.21 | robos | valdyn_, oh, okay. So maybe in this case solr was waiting for i/o? |
| 17:58.35 | valdyn_ | robos: that would be common for a database yes |
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| 17:59.15 | robos | valdyn_, gotcha. Thanks, it all came together |
| 17:59.26 | valdyn_ | robos: in general a database has to be io bound, but you can construct special cases where its cpu bound |
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| 17:59.49 | robos | gotcha valdyn_, ty again |
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| 18:03.31 | FIReun | is there a debian-live #channel? |
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| 18:03.46 | fret423 | does anybody know how to cap speeds while transferring, or any reason enabling DMA should cause files to get corrupted? |
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| 18:05.25 | valdyn_ | fret423: useless question because we can always blame the hardware |
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| 18:05.56 | berarma | !tell fret423 about live |
| 18:06.11 | jhutchins_lt | fret423: That is not a common failure mode. |
| 18:06.19 | berarma | sorry fret423 |
| 18:06.27 | jhutchins_lt | berarma: That was FIReun who was asking about live. |
| 18:06.28 | berarma | !tell FIReun about live |
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| 18:06.41 | berarma | jhutchins_lt: ok :) |
| 18:06.47 | fret423 | valdyn_: yup you can, however, is there a way to test that to see if there is something wrong with the hardware. or better way to phrase it - if you had what I have, what would you look for to see if it is a hardware problem, dma problem, driver, problem, or something else? |
| 18:06.58 | fret423 | berarma, no problem |
| 18:07.03 | jhutchins_lt | FIReun: #debian-live on irc.debian.org |
| 18:07.13 | fret423 | jhutchins_lt: what do you mean 'common failure mode' |
| 18:07.25 | valdyn_ | fret423: first thing to do is to look into dmesg |
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| 18:07.38 | FIReun | jhutchins_lt: ah man, *another* irc server ): |
| 18:07.55 | jhutchins_lt | fret423: dma is highly unlikely, drivers are unlikely. |
| 18:07.59 | KNUBBIG | It seems that pure-ftp does require a valid shell to allow logins, any idea how to prevent this? |
| 18:08.24 | FIReun | jhutchins_lt: thanks, just the same |
| 18:08.33 | jhutchins_lt | KNUBBIG: Enable anonymous logins. |
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| 18:09.07 | fret423 | valdyn_: well, what would you look for in dmesg? :) |
| 18:09.27 | KNUBBIG | jhutchins_lt: that's all? Okay, thanks. Won't it make my server somewhat insecure? |
| 18:09.42 | jhutchins_lt | KNUBBIG: Yes, but ftp makes your server insecure. |
| 18:09.45 | fret423 | jhutchins_lt: so would you hypothesize that its the hardware, controller-dma compatibility, or something else? in any case, what tests would you do to narrow down possibilities? |
| 18:09.51 | faca | i need crearte raid, partition, encrypted, etc, the order is ok? : 1) disk 2) partition 3) raid 4) dm-crypt 5) LVM 6) FS ext4?. ??? |
| 18:10.06 | faca | and /boot in grub2 (pendrive |
| 18:10.08 | KNUBBIG | jhutchins_lt: But I think I need ftp ;-) |
| 18:10.11 | valdyn_ | fret423: nothing specia, use your common sense |
| 18:10.40 | fret423 | jhutchins_lt: also the problem is that the transfers work fine when dma is disabled, but corrupt when it is enabled - that's why I feel its to do with dma |
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| 18:11.18 | jhutchins_lt | fret423: What's the chipset? |
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| 18:11.29 | gnarface | what's the default ulimit in debian? |
| 18:11.56 | th0r | fret423: used to be...back before the dinosaurs died...there was a warning about enabling dma using hdparm. A lot of the drives couldn't support it. Since this is a dedicated device, I wouldn't be surprised to see the issue there |
| 18:12.50 | fret423 | jhutchins_lt: using a MIPS 32 based RMI Alchemy Au1250 processor |
| 18:14.14 | fret423 | besides testing with dma on, is there anyway or anywhere to check if the drive/controller is supported with dma (also, apologies if any of these are newbie questions) |
| 18:14.54 | jhutchins_lt | fret423: If it wasn't supported it wouldn't enable. I was thinking more of the chipset of the actual disk controller within the device. |
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| 18:15.52 | jhutchins_lt | fret423: I think you have a sufficiently specialized case that Google is going to be your main resource. Look for other people having corruption problems with dma. |
| 18:17.05 | fret423 | jhutchins_lt: thanks for the help, though that's exactly what I didn't want to hear - haven't been able to find a comparable situation elsewhere |
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| 18:17.41 | jhutchins_lt | fret423: I would just look for anybody else having corruption problems with the device. |
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| 18:19.32 | fret423 | jhutchins_lt: will continue to do that, though finding it hard to narrow down, now that I know it is to do with dma |
| 18:19.42 | fret423 | th0r: thanks |
| 18:20.09 | jhutchins_lt | fret423: Being a mips system I am not so certain about DMA as with an intel system. |
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| 18:32.49 | an0 | I made a new SSH user account that has a script referenced at the end of their .profile, so when they log it, it automatically runs the script, however I need it to log them out if they stop the script. |
| 18:32.57 | an0 | In other words, they should be able to run the script, and nothing else. |
| 18:33.48 | an0 | Another user here told me to add the name of the script and "logout" on seperate lines at the end of .profile, but that only worked to make the script run on login, not to logout on stopping the script. |
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| 18:34.35 | jaakkos | why not change their login shell to that script? |
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| 18:34.52 | an0 | Because I didn't know that was possible, lol |
| 18:35.00 | jaakkos | :) |
| 18:35.04 | an0 | so just change it in /etc/passwd from /bin/bash to the path of the script? |
| 18:35.17 | jaakkos | yes. or use usermod command to do that. |
| 18:35.37 | an0 | usermod -s /path/to/script user |
| 18:35.38 | an0 | ? |
| 18:36.09 | jaakkos | iirc yes. can't access manpages now. |
| 18:36.18 | an0 | k let me try that. |
| 18:36.24 | abrotman | you might want to test that before yo udo it to a live user :) |
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| 18:36.55 | an0 | It's on a test box now. |
| 18:37.15 | an0 | It's for internal use only, so I'm not too worried, but that's good advice still :) |
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| 18:37.42 | an0 | Didn't work. |
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| 18:37.48 | an0 | Exec format error |
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| 18:38.07 | Justin | an0: you don't have #!/bin/sh at the top? |
| 18:38.07 | hahnp | show the script |
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| 18:39.42 | an0 | Justin: I don't understand the question. |
| 18:40.03 | an0 | hahnp: the script just has a tail -f command in it. nothing fancy. |
| 18:40.14 | hahnp | an0, show me :) |
| 18:40.56 | an0 | tail -fn 500 /home/user/testlog.log |
| 18:41.20 | hahnp | #!/bin/bash |
| 18:41.25 | an0 | Does it need that at the top? |
| 18:41.33 | hahnp | y |
| 18:41.43 | an0 | Oh.. because I changed the default shell for the user? |
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| 18:42.01 | abrotman | that's not much of a user shell ... |
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| 18:42.10 | abrotman | an0: what are you actually trying to do ? |
| 18:42.11 | an0 | ? |
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| 18:42.38 | an0 | User logs in, automatically tails log file for them. They stop script, logs them out. |
| 18:42.52 | abrotman | an0: the user logs in via SSH? |
| 18:42.53 | an0 | Idiot proof for our "techs" to monitor a log file I need them to see. |
| 18:42.56 | an0 | Yep. |
| 18:42.58 | abrotman | i mean .. it's not actually a user per se ... |
| 18:43.03 | crunge | Is there a simple way to get a listing of which files of an installed package differ from those in (or generated by) the original .deb? |
| 18:43.10 | abrotman | so why not just have it ssh with a specified command instead of altering the shell ? |
| 18:43.11 | hahnp | an0, just write the tail string to the .bashrc |
| 18:43.18 | Justin | crunge: debsums |
| 18:43.25 | abrotman | hahnp: but it won't log them out if it stops |
| 18:43.35 | an0 | Do I need to change the shell back in passwd? |
| 18:43.44 | hahnp | do a exit after the tail |
| 18:43.45 | an0 | i mean /etc/passwd |
| 18:43.47 | Justin | an0: no, you need to put #!/bin/sh to the top of your script |
| 18:43.53 | an0 | k i did |
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| 18:44.08 | an0 | so wait |
| 18:44.22 | an0 | my shell is set to the script, AND i have to put the contents of the script in .bashrc? |
| 18:44.27 | abrotman | you can have ssh execute only a single command remotely, and if that command dies, the connection goes away |
| 18:44.38 | an0 | that's what i want. |
| 18:45.14 | crunge | Justin: perfect! Thanks! |
| 18:45.21 | abrotman | an0: try `ssh user@machine tail -f /home/user/testlog.log' |
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| 18:45.50 | abrotman | (with a valid shell in /etc/passwd) |
| 18:45.55 | jonkri | are out of memory errors automatically logged to /var/log/syslog? i believe i had such problems this morning, but i can't find anything in the log |
| 18:46.39 | abrotman | an0: is that easier? |
| 18:46.42 | valdyn_ | jonkri: yes, except the one where the logging facilities are killed by the oom-killer ( which should be highly unlikely ) |
| 18:46.50 | an0 | abrotman: that works, but I don't want to have to specify the command... |
| 18:46.59 | an0 | that allows them to specify OTHER commands.. |
| 18:47.02 | abrotman | an0: uhm, how were they going to ssh to the machine to being with ? |
| 18:47.22 | an0 | putty |
| 18:47.24 | abrotman | an0: yes, i suppose you're correct .. but if the session initiation is 'automated', they'd not see the command anyway |
| 18:47.30 | valdyn_ | jonkri: but even then it should still be in dmesg unless you had additional spam there |
| 18:47.47 | an0 | putty asks them for the user, then the pass. |
| 18:47.53 | abrotman | an0: then yes .. put it at the end of the .bashrc .. though if they specify another shell, they could get around that |
| 18:47.53 | an0 | thats all they can handle lol |
| 18:48.01 | abrotman | an0: why not use keys .. no user/pass |
| 18:48.04 | jonkri | valdyn_, i have an "Out of memory: kill process 30367 (apache2) score 15368 or a child" error in dmesg, but i don't know from when since there are no timestamps :( |
| 18:48.11 | an0 | this is easier to support |
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| 18:48.22 | abrotman | or use rsyslog to have all the logging sent to a main logging machine so they can just read one log? |
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| 18:48.26 | valdyn_ | jonkri: debian kernels have a timestamp in dmesg |
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| 18:48.46 | valdyn_ | jonkri: like here: "[539391.601851] btrfs: enabling auto defrag" |
| 18:48.51 | jonkri | valdyn_, aha. this is a linode debian kernel |
| 18:49.00 | jonkri | which doesn't |
| 18:49.06 | an0 | abrotman: /bin/bash as the shell, default .profile, and the script contents in .bashrc? |
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| 18:49.19 | valdyn_ | jonkri: look into /var/log/kern.log* |
| 18:49.29 | hahnp | an0, yes |
| 18:49.30 | abrotman | an0: i suppose .. still ways around that if you know |
| 18:49.37 | an0 | do I need #!/bin/bash at the top of .bashrc? |
| 18:49.41 | hahnp | yes |
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| 18:49.46 | an0 | im not worried about it, abrotman |
| 18:49.56 | twobitsprite | an0: no |
| 18:49.57 | an0 | just want it to be easy, not inherently "secure" |
| 18:50.03 | an0 | k thanks, let me try this. |
| 18:50.17 | jonkri | valdyn_, only "/proc/kmsg started." messages these last couple of weeks. that probably means that the server was NOT oom:ing this morning |
| 18:50.20 | jonkri | right? |
| 18:50.21 | twobitsprite | don't need shabang in .bashrc |
| 18:50.29 | valdyn_ | an0: you dont need that #! shebang |
| 18:50.36 | hahnp | sorry didnt read that well |
| 18:50.43 | an0 | valdyn_: k thanks :) |
| 18:50.45 | an0 | one sec |
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| 18:51.37 | valdyn_ | jonkri: right |
| 18:52.09 | valdyn_ | jonkri: those files get rotated daily.. |
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| 18:53.19 | jonkri | valdyn_, i looked in the .1 file which had messages back through most of july |
| 18:53.22 | jonkri | but ok. thanks :) |
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| 18:57.43 | an0 | abrotman: okay that runs the script, but doesn't log out when i hit control+c |
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| 18:58.14 | Justin | an0: why did you change the login shell again? |
| 18:58.16 | abrotman | someone told oyu to add an 'exit' |
| 18:58.18 | hahnp | an0, did you do it using the .bashrcß |
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| 18:58.41 | Justin | the easiest and most reliable way is to set the login shell to the script |
| 18:58.41 | an0 | abrotman: oh i missed that, let me try that |
| 18:58.49 | an0 | i did, it didnt work |
| 18:58.55 | an0 | ^ @ Justin |
| 18:59.14 | Justin | an0: was that before or after you fixed the thing I told you to fix? |
| 18:59.26 | an0 | I can't reember. |
| 18:59.37 | Justin | you aren't so good at following directions |
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| 19:00.34 | an0 | putting #!/bin/bash at the top of .profile? |
| 19:00.40 | Justin | no, at the top of the script! |
| 19:00.44 | hahnp | ^^ |
| 19:00.55 | an0 | ah, no that's what I did. |
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| 19:01.07 | Justin | if that it what you did then it would have worked |
| 19:01.26 | hahnp | an0, can you paste your passwd of the user and the whole script.... |
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| 19:01.38 | an0 | I added it but never tested it. Got sidetracked doing what abrotman told me to do. |
| 19:01.55 | an0 | one sec, does exit need to be in single quotes in .bashrc? |
| 19:02.02 | abrotman | oh sure .. blame me |
| 19:02.03 | hahnp | just exit |
| 19:02.06 | an0 | I added it without and it didn't work. |
| 19:02.10 | Justin | forget .bashrc |
| 19:02.14 | Justin | just change the shell |
| 19:02.17 | an0 | k |
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| 19:02.29 | an0 | one sec. |
| 19:02.32 | hahnp | an0, change the shell in passwd to the script |
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| 19:02.41 | an0 | doing that now |
| 19:03.06 | hahnp | an0, if it does not work, pastebin the passwd entry and the whole script |
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| 19:05.09 | an0 | That works. :) |
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| 19:05.46 | an0 | Very easy, I should write it down! |
| 19:06.14 | an0 | Dumb question, how does #!/bin/bash in the script have any effect? Doesn't the # comment it out? |
| 19:06.48 | Rienzilla | it is a magic marker that tells the shell to feed the rest of the contents of the script to the interpreter /bin/bash |
| 19:07.00 | an0 | Thanks Rienzilla |
| 19:07.11 | Justin | Rienzilla: kernel, not shell |
| 19:07.18 | an0 | Thanks everyone else who helped, even the ones who knocked my direction following skills xD |
| 19:07.35 | Rienzilla | you could replace it with #!/usr/bin/perl or #!/my/own/awesome/interpreter, and it would execute that particular interpreter |
| 19:07.38 | dondelelcaro | s/shell/exec/ |
| 19:07.47 | dondelelcaro | (and then the linker) |
| 19:08.01 | Rienzilla | Justin: ehm, I'm not sure, but why would that be done in the kernel? |
| 19:08.24 | Rienzilla | hmwait you may be right |
| 19:08.27 | Rienzilla | never mind |
| 19:09.36 | dondelelcaro | Rienzilla: man 2 execve; for details if you want to know what is really going on |
| 19:10.34 | valdyn_ | Rienzilla: unix is ancient |
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| 19:15.24 | ssacc | hello everybody, Xterm on my local Debian copy is not working correctly as it is not forwarding <Shift-left/right/up/down> to Emacs properly - is somebody familiar with this topic? |
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| 19:16.21 | mjt | run emacs in its own window |
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| 19:17.38 | mjt | ie, use emacs23 package (gtk version), not emacs-nox |
| 19:17.39 | ssacc | mjt: ;) |
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| 19:17.59 | mjt | why it's funny? |
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| 19:18.04 | ssacc | but i really want to run it in xterm, that's why i'm talking |
| 19:18.10 | ssacc | *asking* |
| 19:18.24 | mjt | works for me in roxterm |
| 19:18.50 | krakrjak | ssacc: just xterm or is it some other terminal. |
| 19:18.51 | ssacc | works for me, too, in other terminals, but still not in xterm |
| 19:19.05 | ssacc | krakrjak: just not working in xterm |
| 19:19.41 | mjt | heh. i haven't used emacs for some 20 years... |
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| 19:19.59 | mjt | i don't even remember how to end its session.. Ctrl+X...<something>... :) |
| 19:20.19 | mjt | ah, fingers have better memory. Ctrl+X C |
| 19:20.19 | ssacc | 'exit' |
| 19:21.04 | mjt | Ctrl+X 2 |
| 19:21.14 | mjt | heh. fun. nostalgie(sp) |
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| 19:22.37 | ssacc | no xterm users here? |
| 19:22.40 | mjt | emacs was at version 1.9 when i first used it (iirc anyway). And last was 1.19 (ditto) |
| 19:23.10 | ssacc | the problem is definetly caused by xterm and not by emacs |
| 19:23.13 | ssacc | for sure |
| 19:24.25 | chenthu | harray my display problem is solved.. :) |
| 19:24.32 | an0 | How do I make a log file read only, except to the program that writes to it? |
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| 19:24.41 | chenthu | p0g0: my display problem is solved |
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| 19:25.37 | alfplayer | Q: Isn't it dangerous that dpkg overwrites without warning files not owned by any package ? Can I disable this ? |
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| 19:26.11 | zach23 | how can i upgrade a kernel in squeeze if the system cannot come up (squeeze's default kernel has very old drivers for the RAID). I have the system running fine on a rescue CD |
| 19:26.30 | hahnp | an0: you need to set rw permissions only to the user that runs the program... |
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| 19:26.45 | hahnp | but root is always allowed |
| 19:26.58 | an0 | How do I see what user runs the program? |
| 19:27.05 | hahnp | ?! |
| 19:27.10 | an0 | It runs on startup, that's all I know. |
| 19:27.28 | abrotman | ah, random processes filling the HDD .. what could go wrong :) |
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| 19:27.45 | xzgv | hi, i compiled scrotwm-0.9.32 in /opt, when i put it in my .xinitrc, gives a "permission denied" error, i man 'chown' but can't make it work. How should i chown? |
| 19:27.51 | hahnp | an0: what program? |
| 19:27.58 | an0 | syslog-ng |
| 19:28.16 | ssacc | well, thx anyway |
| 19:28.19 | zach23 | oddly enough the rescue CD deals with the raid system fine - same kernel |
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| 19:28.34 | hahnp | an0: ps -ef|grep syslog-ng |
| 19:29.00 | an0 | root, looks like. |
| 19:29.17 | hahnp | so... set the permissions to root |
| 19:29.22 | an0 | So chmod 444 /path/to/log |
| 19:29.23 | an0 | ? |
| 19:29.23 | hahnp | only |
| 19:29.31 | an0 | Oh. |
| 19:29.33 | wols | xzgv: what are the current permissions? |
| 19:29.45 | hahnp | no |
| 19:29.50 | hahnp | thats read only for everyone |
| 19:29.59 | an0 | I thought root was exempt from that. |
| 19:30.01 | hahnp | chmod 600 /path/to/log |
| 19:30.05 | an0 | Ah. |
| 19:30.11 | hahnp | so only root got rw |
| 19:30.32 | an0 | Doesn't 600 mean no one else can read? |
| 19:30.35 | hahnp | ah read only |
| 19:30.40 | an0 | Yes. |
| 19:30.40 | hahnp | ok... than 644 |
| 19:30.44 | an0 | Okay. |
| 19:30.45 | xzgv | wols: drwxr-xr-x |
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| 19:31.39 | an0 | Perfect. Thanks!! afk |
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| 19:34.37 | debianuser1223 | Is there a way to install over ssh via livecd ? |
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| 19:36.05 | hahnp | debianuser1223: i dont know a livesystem that has an ssh server integrated... so i would rather say "no" |
| 19:36.18 | Justin | !wayttd debianuser1223 |
| 19:36.18 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, debianuser1223? |
| 19:36.38 | solar_sea | Hi. What's the format of the .jinfo files in /usr/lib/jvm ? |
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| 19:36.52 | cshore | debianuser1223: d-i has an option to do an ssh install if you preseed |
| 19:37.01 | solar_sea | I'm trying to make a proper, local install of java 7 and I'd like it to be configurable with update-java-alternatives |
| 19:37.52 | debianuser1223 | I have a laptop that has no screen and will not pick up external screen but it will boot a livecd need a way to install debian on it. |
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| 19:38.58 | debianuser1223 | cshore: do you know the combinations ? |
| 19:39.42 | hahnp | solar_sea: what do you mean by format? |
| 19:40.14 | solar_sea | I mean what do the lines there mean and how are they handled. I can see that from /usb/sbin/update-java-alternatives somewhat though |
| 19:40.46 | solar_sea | although by all means, if someone has written a .jinfo for a java-7-sun version I'd gladly use it, otherwise I'll roll my own |
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| 19:46.17 | btl | hi whenever i start my computer, I get this message: resume: Could not stat the resume device file "# RESUME=/dev/hda5". Typing Enter moves along the booting process normally, but what file do I need to edit so that I don't get this message anymore? |
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| 19:51.24 | Justin | btl: grep hda5 -r /etc/ |
| 19:51.52 | btl | k, let me try that now... |
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| 19:56.44 | latepre | !u |
| 19:56.44 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 20:11.01 | chenthu | guys can some one tell me how i can delete an already configured interface from my list of network interface |
| 20:11.52 | hahnp | chenthu: ifconfig <interface name> down |
| 20:12.08 | hahnp | then delete in interfaces |
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| 20:13.37 | chenthu | hahnp: ok ....because i was able to connect to my mobile network through usb tethering but now when i connect no indication shows up at all..so i plan to remove the installed samsung android driver and other things related to my mobile and then reinstall and configure the device...does it sound right? |
| 20:15.04 | hahnp | yes |
| 20:15.18 | chenthu | hahnp: oh will try now thanks ,,, :) |
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| 20:17.18 | chenthu | hahnp: it doesnt show the interface |
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| 20:17.41 | hahnp | than its not up |
| 20:18.07 | chenthu | hahnp: hmmm ok...any idea how i could find and reinstall |
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| 20:18.22 | Justin | chenthu: samsung android driver? |
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| 20:19.17 | chenthu | Justin: yeah...i can access the mass storage and other things except usb tethering...and i was able to use it previously |
| 20:19.38 | hahnp | chenthu: did you connect it via usb? |
| 20:20.00 | chenthu | hahnp: yeah |
| 20:20.11 | hahnp | can you show "lsusb" |
| 20:20.39 | chenthu | hahnp: ok...u want me to pastebin? |
| 20:20.51 | hahnp | yes please |
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| 20:21.16 | chenthu | hahnp: it say command not found |
| 20:22.18 | hahnp | hm can you check if usbutils is installed |
| 20:22.33 | chenthu | hahnp: how to do tht? |
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| 20:22.49 | hahnp | dpkg -l|grep usbutils |
| 20:22.50 | dpkg | hahnp: I give up, what is it? |
| 20:23.04 | hahnp | "dpkg -l|grep usbutils" |
| 20:23.20 | chenthu | hahnp: ok |
| 20:23.59 | chenthu | hahnp: it returns nothing |
| 20:24.13 | hahnp | hm can you install it? "apt-get install usbutils" |
| 20:24.13 | chenthu | hahnp: it just goes to the nest command line |
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| 20:24.57 | chenthu | hahnp: no i cant my net is down... i got to access only through my mobile....may be i can download in this windows system and transfer there and then install |
| 20:24.58 | hpproliang | is there any howto install debian on hp proliant server? :) |
| 20:25.27 | hahnp | chenthu: ok then can you show dmesg|grep -i usb |
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| 20:26.30 | chenthu | hahnp: ok pasting it now |
| 20:26.36 | hahnp | ok |
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| 20:28.25 | tanabum | Is there a way to have update-rc.d use a path to a script, rather then putting the script into init.d ? |
| 20:28.49 | Justin | tanabum: why? |
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| 20:29.07 | tanabum | Because I have a script that I don't want to include into init.d :) |
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| 20:30.20 | hahnp | tanabum: what do you want to do? |
| 20:30.27 | hahnp | add a script to a runlevel? |
| 20:30.56 | tanabum | hahnp: exactly that. Just not include the script in the init.d dir; I was reviewing the man page but it looked like it was forcing everything to live int /etc/init.d/ |
| 20:31.19 | hahnp | just create a link in the runlevel |
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| 20:31.38 | Justin | tanabum: scripts go in /etc/init.d/ I suggest you deal with it... |
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| 20:32.06 | tanabum | hahnp: Oh, I didn't know that would do it.Thanks |
| 20:32.23 | tanabum | Justin: Does it matter if I'm playing around with my system and want to fool around with things? It's not a witchhunt :) |
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| 20:33.53 | hahnp | its the common way to handle... but "who cares" ;) |
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| 20:37.25 | chenthu | hahnp: here it is... http://paste.debian.net/124794/ |
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| 20:43.30 | nOuX | hi |
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| 20:44.28 | nOuX | in my kern.log I have those errors : |
| 20:44.28 | nOuX | kernel: SSH REJECTIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00â¦â¦. SRC=â¦. |
| 20:44.28 | nOuX | does any1 know what it means ? |
| 20:44.54 | nOuX | I got some timed out ssh connection and I don't get why |
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| 20:45.04 | hahnp | chenthu: how did you configure it in the first place |
| 20:45.11 | hahnp | or did you do nothing? |
| 20:46.13 | Devastator | hi, i have an ancient isa nic and trying to make it work in lenny in order to upgrade to squeeze, which packages replaced isapnptools? |
| 20:46.24 | chenthu | hahnp: i did nothing..i just connected my android to the system using usb and there is an option for usb tether in my mobile where, i have to select it and then it connects to the net, this is how it happens in windows and it happened here too on linucx previous time |
| 20:46.46 | hahnp | can you check if it is mounted? |
| 20:47.26 | chenthu | hahnp: nope i have removed it now....and even when i connect it it is not mounted...cause i have seperate option for that on my android |
| 20:47.47 | chenthu | hahnp: is it possible to just remove particular drivers from the usb? |
| 20:48.08 | hahnp | can you just replug it? |
| 20:48.25 | hahnp | on the phone there should the option to "ether" again |
| 20:48.45 | chenthu | hahnp: i did it but nothing happens ... thats my problem now |
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| 20:49.43 | chenthu | hahnp: thats why i plan to uninstall and reinstall the GSM modem driver from the usb |
| 20:49.58 | btl | Justin: thank you. grep hda5 -r /etc/ set me on the right track to fix it. |
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| 20:51.30 | hahnp | chenthu: sorry no idea |
| 20:51.55 | chenthu | hahnp: i am downloading the usbutils from debian site... is it of use? |
| 20:51.58 | Devastator | no isa support in lenny? |
| 20:52.02 | Justin | btl: great :) |
| 20:52.30 | hahnp | chenthu: you can check the status of the usb devices |
| 20:52.48 | chenthu | hahnp: ok...thank you very much for the support ... :) |
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| 20:53.16 | abrotman | Devastator: none did .. you have to get it from another version of Debian, it should still work |
| 20:53.30 | iluminator101 | what file is usbfs-like devices in? |
| 20:53.51 | abrotman | !tell Devastator about isapnp |
| 20:54.08 | Devastator | abrotman will it run in lenny? |
| 20:54.11 | hahnp | iluminator101: ?what do you mean |
| 20:54.12 | abrotman | Devastator: see what the bot told you before you whine more |
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| 20:54.19 | abrotman | Devastator: get it and try it |
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| 20:54.28 | abrotman | also see what the bot said |
| 20:54.36 | trinkleinj | hi channel - I am doing a data recovery and am looking at a directory entry. The inode location for a directory entry is impossibly high - 215 million. Am i reading the inode number wrong? It's in hex. I've converted the endian-ness |
| 20:54.49 | trinkleinj | the hex value is 01 00 04 0f - which i've converted to 0f 04 00 01 - a really really huge inode number |
| 20:54.55 | Devastator | abrotman] |
| 20:54.58 | Devastator | thanks!] |
| 20:54.59 | trinkleinj | strangely, the lost+found directory correctly maps 0b 00 00 00 - which is 00 00 00 0b - which is 11, right where lost+found should be |
| 20:55.07 | trinkleinj | so ... what is wrong with the other entry? why is it impossibly big? |
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| 20:55.25 | iluminator101 | hahnp, for my scanner i used to add this like in 50-udev-default.rules under usbfs-like but its no longer there in kernel 3.0 |
| 20:55.26 | abrotman | do you need to know the inode? |
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| 20:56.03 | mjt | trinkleinj: i doubt you'll find good answers here. You may try to ask in some filesystem-specific channel, such as #ext4@freenode (iirc) |
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| 20:56.36 | DexterF | how is ~/.Xauthority created? |
| 20:56.53 | iluminator101 | this is what i add SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", MODE="0666", NAME="bus/usb/$env{BUSNUM}/$env{DEVNUM}" |
| 20:56.55 | chenthu | hahnp: indtalled any commands for usb utils?... |
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| 20:57.11 | trinkleinj | thanks mjt i'll check ext4 |
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| 20:57.41 | trinkleinj | empty channel |
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| 20:57.45 | trinkleinj | =0 |
| 20:58.12 | mjt | trinkleinj: maybe it's @oftc ;) |
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| 20:58.40 | mjt | yeah ext4@oftc |
| 20:59.07 | trinkleinj | ah ok thanks L) |
| 20:59.10 | trinkleinj | :0 |
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| 21:02.51 | FDFlock | "qemu: at most 2047 MB RAM can be simulated" |
| 21:02.53 | FDFlock | Seriously?! |
| 21:02.58 | FDFlock | Is this limit for i686 only or it also affects AMD64? (I'm currently on a 32bit system but plan to install a 64bit one) |
| 21:03.16 | FDFlock | I'm using kvm, in case it matters. |
| 21:03.19 | jelly-home | FDFlock: kvm is not qemu |
| 21:03.28 | abrotman | FDFlock: that's a 32bit issue AIUI |
| 21:03.34 | FDFlock | Well, that's the error message of virt-manager |
| 21:03.36 | bst | DexterF: read man xauth |
| 21:03.49 | abrotman | FDFlock: AIUI, you can only get 2GB per process in 32bit land |
| 21:04.12 | jelly-home | pae! |
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| 21:04.21 | FDFlock | Oh, I thought the limit was 4GB... So on AMD64 it will be OK, I assume |
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| 21:04.51 | FDFlock | jelly-home: Using PAE right now, but AFAIK the per-process limit does not change |
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| 21:05.39 | FDFlock | Anyway, thanks for the responses :) |
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| 21:06.26 | yebyen | does anyone know why apt-cacher-ng might be redirecting my requests from a fast (nearby) mirror to kassia3.snt.utwente.nl? |
| 21:06.49 | yebyen | i can download direct from mirror.rit.edu as long as I don't try to use the proxy tool |
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| 21:07.19 | abrotman | what is the mirror stated in your sources? |
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| 21:07.40 | yebyen | http://localhost:3142/mirror.rit.edu/debian |
| 21:07.57 | yebyen | i've also tried just mirror.rit.edu/debian with the Acquire::http directive in apt.conf |
| 21:07.58 | abrotman | yebyen: FWIW, i've had way way better luck with approx |
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| 21:08.30 | yebyen | maybe i should try it |
| 21:08.35 | hahnp | yebyen can you traceroute to mirror.rit.edu |
| 21:08.50 | yebyen | i can do better, i can connect manually with a web browser to the http |
| 21:09.04 | yebyen | or with a specific http://mirror.rit.edu/debian in the apt/sources.list |
| 21:09.33 | abrotman | so it's just apt-cacher-ng ? |
| 21:09.47 | Cain | Hi, I delete a folder with rm -rf by mistake, is there a hope to get it back ? |
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| 21:10.01 | yebyen | yeah, only with apt-cacher-ng |
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| 21:10.56 | yebyen | i'm thinking it must be overriding my debian mirror since it's not listed in the list provided by apt-cacher-ng, but it actually _is_ listed in /etc/apt-cacher-ng/deb_mirrors.gz |
| 21:11.16 | yebyen | it just decides to use this uber slow mirror that only downloads at 3k/s :( |
| 21:11.41 | DexterF | bst: well. says the program which starts X should generate it. would be gdm in my case, question is: where is it. iirc I heard more recent versions store the xauth cookie somewhere else - but where. |
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| 21:13.19 | yebyen | maybe i'll figure it out, maybe i'll switch to approx... |
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| 21:13.30 | yebyen | for now, i'll just download without a proxy |
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| 21:14.12 | ompaul | yebyen: can you add your mirror to that file? |
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| 21:17.51 | lancelot_of | hi there |
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| 21:18.09 | abrotman | yebyen: i really tried most of the apt proxies, approx seemed to be the easiest to manage and use |
| 21:18.15 | ompaul | Cain: there are slim chances and you should not have written anything to the partition since including logs, you need to check out your nearest friendly search engine and be very hopeful at the same time, did I say slim chances? |
| 21:18.15 | lancelot_of | after suspend/hibernation and resume conky fails to stat battery. Any suggestion? |
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| 21:18.42 | lancelot_of | anyway acpi from command line works and returns all the proper information |
| 21:18.49 | Cain | ompaul : i'm trying with testdisk (cross ALL fingers) |
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| 21:19.07 | lancelot_of | even if during hibernation i get in kernel:"ACPI: Unable to dock!" |
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| 21:20.39 | Cain | ompaul unfortunatly : Support for this filesystem hasn't been enable during compilation. :/ |
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| 21:28.20 | sje46 | How do I switch to pulseaudio? |
| 21:28.22 | DexterF | moving a disk with lvm over to a new system should I copy /etc/lvm, too? |
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| 21:33.55 | ompaul | Cain: what is that file system? |
| 21:34.03 | Cain | reiserfs |
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| 21:34.41 | ompaul | Cain: ah well, ext4 rocks my world - has done for two years |
| 21:35.14 | ompaul | Cain: perhaps alias rm to mv |
| 21:35.21 | sje46 | *ahem*. I use teh alsa sound system. I can't play mpd if I have youtube tabs open. How do I fix this? |
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| 21:35.55 | iluminator101 | hey i got the scanner to work usbfs-like devices is in 91-permissions.rules in sid |
| 21:35.59 | Cain | ompaul : for sure ! |
| 21:36.27 | iluminator101 | just one more thing when i start my eth0 does not work i have to do dhclient eth0 to get it work, why is that |
| 21:37.00 | hahnp | Cain: if the file is still on disk you can try sleuthkit to recreate the inodes |
| 21:37.03 | sje46 | ompaul: w...what? why would you alias rm to mv? |
| 21:37.36 | ompaul | sje46: to save files rather than remove them |
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| 21:37.47 | Cain | hahnp : thx, i'll give it a try |
| 21:38.19 | sje46 | shouldn't that be aliasinng rm to mv ~/.Trash or something, then? |
| 21:38.24 | hahnp | you just need a fiew commands to find the inodes to the files you miss |
| 21:38.41 | sje46 | otherwise it's just going to overwrite all of your files |
| 21:38.43 | ompaul | sje46: correct I implied |
| 21:38.59 | Cain | hahnp : if you know a howto to i'll be glad :) |
| 21:39.02 | ompaul | but was not explicit enough - my bad |
| 21:39.10 | ompaul | Cain: see sje46 comment |
| 21:39.13 | ompaul | about the mv |
| 21:39.30 | Cain | ompaul : yes |
| 21:39.46 | sje46 | Cain: what exactly is your issue? |
| 21:39.57 | sje46 | there's probably better ways than using aliases |
| 21:40.13 | Cain | sje46 i deleted 2 php files on a folder and i want to get them back ^^' |
| 21:40.22 | ompaul | sje46: rm on reiserfs |
| 21:40.24 | Cain | (i deleted the whole folder) |
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| 21:40.53 | sje46 | Cain: I would just alias rm to rm -i then |
| 21:41.22 | sje46 | or a really hackish way is to put a file called -i in your important directories, but I wouldn't recommend it |
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| 21:41.53 | Cain | it's not really the problem, even with the -i option i'll delete them because i forget how the folder is important, now i remember (some cronjobs reminds me !) |
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| 21:56.21 | dondelelcaro | (because it tells you what the defaults are) |
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| 22:00.53 | alex-- | Hello |
| 22:00.57 | alex-- | Webmin can go into debian again :) |
| 22:01.02 | abrotman | not likely |
| 22:01.08 | alex-- | why not? |
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| 22:01.17 | abrotman | are you going to maintain it? |
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| 22:01.50 | Devastator | as far as i know webmin isn't secure |
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| 22:02.38 | abrotman | alex--: is that a no? |
| 22:02.52 | alex-- | Devastator: as far as you know |
| 22:02.58 | alex-- | it's fixed now :) |
| 22:03.09 | alex-- | that bug is several years old; solved and fixed years ago. |
| 22:03.12 | abrotman | alex--: Do you have a Debian related question ? |
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| 22:03.33 | alex-- | yes |
| 22:03.39 | alex-- | why dont they put webmin back into repo's ? |
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| 22:03.52 | abrotman | alex--: are you offering to maintain it? |
| 22:04.00 | abrotman | http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/search-results?query=webmin&search_type=all&cves=on |
| 22:04.01 | alex-- | no, other people are |
| 22:04.17 | abrotman | who is that? where's the ITP bug number? |
| 22:04.36 | daemonkeeper | (and does dondelelcaro know about?) |
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| 22:05.26 | streuner_ | the questions is rather, why he want that webmin is in Debian again... |
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| 22:06.48 | abrotman | alex--: where is the ITP ? |
| 22:07.01 | alex-- | what's ITP? |
| 22:07.08 | dondelelcaro | !ITP |
| 22:07.08 | dpkg | Intent To Package (ITP) is a Debian <bug> filed against the <wnpp> pseudo-package, to indicate someone is working on packaging a piece of software for Debian. This is done to avoid a duplication of work. |
| 22:07.53 | garotosopa | Hi. How can I mark a package to be upgraded from command line but not yet upgrade it so that when I open aptitude interface I would see its upgrade as a pending action? |
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| 22:08.14 | abrotman | and no, there is no ITP and no RFP |
| 22:08.48 | dondelelcaro | garotosopa: aptitude --schedule-only install foopkg; (possibly with an appended version) |
| 22:09.43 | garotosopa | dondelelcaro: thank you! that's exactly what I needed. |
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| 22:14.29 | maximumHAX | can someone help me with a build error from cinepaint? |
| 22:14.39 | abrotman | just ask |
| 22:15.11 | maximumHAX | getting build error on debian squeeze .. http://pastebin.com/YCnh0Yf0 |
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| 22:17.24 | maximumHAX | bad cvs ? |
| 22:17.31 | maximumHAX | or am I doing something wrong |
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| 22:19.26 | abrotman | gcc too old to cope with code? |
| 22:19.34 | streuner_ | dpkg, cinepaint |
| 22:19.34 | dpkg | streuner_: are you using Windows? |
| 22:19.37 | streuner_ | ... |
| 22:19.53 | phik | lol |
| 22:21.14 | streuner_ | maximumHAX: is there a stable version of that software? |
| 22:21.31 | maximumHAX | should be |
| 22:21.41 | streuner_ | just use that instead... |
| 22:21.41 | abrotman | it's not in Debian |
| 22:21.44 | streuner_ | sure |
| 22:21.53 | streuner_ | judd, versions cinepaint |
| 22:21.54 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'cinepaint' was found in i386. |
| 22:22.10 | streuner_ | a stable version to download |
| 22:22.18 | maximumHAX | deb squeeze removed cinepaint |
| 22:22.35 | abrotman | streuner_: http://bugs.debian.org/465691 .. it's an old bug too |
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| 22:23.53 | FDFlock | abrotman: I really doubt that gcc being old would ever cause such problems ;) (C was crerated in the 70s after all) |
| 22:23.55 | abrotman | alex--: did you file an ITP yet? |
| 22:24.06 | alex-- | where can i do it? |
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| 22:24.11 | abrotman | FDFlock: bugs in gcc are fixed every day though .. changing its behaviour |
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| 22:24.27 | FDFlock | it looks like there is a bug in the cvs code |
| 22:24.28 | r3m | Hi, I use the last command to know who connected to my vps. however, the result is just 2 today. yesterday there was like 10 entries. is it because we are the august first? the tmp file got erase? |
| 22:24.40 | FDFlock | abrotman: But the gcc of Debian stable is ...well, stable |
| 22:24.56 | abrotman | i'm aware :) |
| 22:25.14 | FDFlock | I know ;) |
| 22:25.29 | abrotman | r3m: yes, because today is the 1st |
| 22:25.45 | r3m | abrotman: ok, can i change this somewhere |
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| 22:26.40 | abrotman | r3m: change which part? it preserves last month's login list .. last -f /var/log/wtmp.log.1 |
| 22:26.42 | FDFlock | I assume it's logrotate or something...? |
| 22:26.47 | abrotman | erm, wtmp.1 |
| 22:26.54 | FDFlock | didn't bother to tweak the log behavior |
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| 22:26.59 | r3m | nice idea thanks abrotman |
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| 22:31.35 | mallery | smtp connection to citadel mail-server is very slow and needs about 10 seconds, while imap/ or smtp-connection via webcit is very fast. |
| 22:31.45 | mallery | think it's because of dns resolving problems, because this problem occured after moving the server to another LAN. |
| 22:31.50 | mallery | How to solve this? |
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| 22:32.37 | systemclient | do I have to include a complete GPL text in my debian-native package or can I just link to some linux file? |
| 22:33.39 | DexterF | so X loaded the vesa driver for my SandyBridge intel video instead of the intel driver - help? |
| 22:33.48 | daemonkeeper | systemclient: /usr/share/common-licenses/ |
| 22:33.51 | DexterF | core i5, h67 chipset, squeeze |
| 22:33.55 | streuner_ | that is ok? |
| 22:34.03 | streuner_ | 1280? |
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| 22:34.52 | streuner_ | DexterF: VESA is really stable, do you need more than 1280 resolution? |
| 22:34.59 | DexterF | YES. |
| 22:35.04 | streuner_ | hm |
| 22:35.35 | systemclient | daemonkeeper: ty |
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| 22:40.17 | mr_daniel | Is there any official documentation for aptitude version 0.6.3? So far I only used basic APT and aptitude features like 'update' or 'install'. I want to change that, but can't find an up to date documentation. |
| 22:40.43 | mr_daniel | I only found docs for 0.4.11.11 (http://media.fossclub.de/aptitude/html/en/index.html) and 0.4.11.2 (http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/) |
| 22:40.44 | abrotman | mr_daniel: aptitude-doc-de package perhaps ? |
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| 22:42.13 | systemclient | I run sid and try to install kde-standard and it tells me: libc6-dev: breaks: gcc-4.4 (< 4.4.6-4) but 4.4.5-8 is to be installed. |
| 22:42.16 | systemclient | what do I do? |
| 22:42.31 | chenthu | guys my default sources.list has only "ign cdrom// ...... and so on" no ther repository link...can u give me the official repositories link to be added and some importeant unoofficial ones? |
| 22:43.28 | simonlnu | systemclient: don't mix versions? |
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| 22:45.22 | mr_daniel | abrotman: do you know where documentations are placed? |
| 22:45.44 | abrotman | mr_daniel: dpkg -L aptitude-doc-de |
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| 22:46.19 | mr_daniel | this is exactly what I want to learn about, thbanks abrotman |
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| 22:50.04 | systemclient | simonlnu: I read that I might have to run dist-upgrade first |
| 22:50.16 | systemclient | simonlnu: I just did update after stable->sid, not dist-upgrade |
| 22:50.55 | smhar | I installed xchat-gnome client but when I run it, I only get an empty white window, !! normal xchat clients is working fine though |
| 22:51.02 | simonlnu | yeh, well, it's better to do stable>testing>unstable . less issues. but that one isn't hard to fix either. |
| 22:51.55 | mosez | knows somebody a tool to redirect localhost mysql connections to another host? |
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| 22:52.45 | simonlnu | iptables |
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| 22:52.58 | c3l | what would be the best way to get python 2.7 (3.2 would be fun too) in squeeze? |
| 22:53.07 | simonlnu | or just reconfigure your app |
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| 22:53.15 | simonlnu | c3l: /msg dpkg bdo |
| 22:54.31 | mosez | these are not my apps... |
| 22:55.48 | abrotman | judd: versions python2.6 |
| 22:55.49 | judd | Package python2.6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.6-8+b1; sid: 2.6.7-3; wheezy: 2.6.7-3 |
| 22:55.49 | abrotman | judd: versions python2.7 |
| 22:55.50 | judd | Package python2.7 on i386 -- sid: 2.7.2-3; wheezy: 2.7.2-3 |
| 22:55.57 | c3l | simonlnu: I see no python 2.7 in there |
| 22:55.58 | abrotman | mosez: you'd have to backport it yourself |
| 22:56.02 | abrotman | judd: versions python3.2 |
| 22:56.03 | judd | Package python3.2 on i386 -- wheezy: 3.2.1~rc1-1; sid: 3.2.1-1 |
| 22:56.12 | simonlnu | what he said |
| 22:56.22 | streuner_ | have fun :-) |
| 22:56.22 | c3l | hm |
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| 22:57.33 | rtyler | I'm packing up squeeze VM for distribution to some folks, I started it with a net install so /etc/apt/sources.list is filled with references to the mirror I used |
| 22:57.44 | rtyler | is there a preferred, generic mirror I should refer to in the VM? |
| 22:58.55 | abrotman | rtyler: distributed around the world ? |
| 22:59.01 | abrotman | (your image i mean) |
| 22:59.54 | abrotman | rtyler: ? |
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| 23:00.37 | jhutchins_lt | !sources |
| 23:00.37 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
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| 23:01.20 | rtyler | abrotman: yes (ran to the bathroom) |
| 23:01.33 | rtyler | didn't know about cdn.debian.net |
| 23:01.35 | rtyler | interesting |
| 23:01.52 | abrotman | yes, use cdn.debian.net .. be aware it's not official, so it may disappear |
| 23:02.01 | jhutchins_lt | rtyler: /msg dpkg mirrors |
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| 23:02.16 | abrotman | ryan-c: but that will get you the closest mirror as far as the service can figure out |
| 23:02.46 | ryan-c | nick complete fail? |
| 23:02.53 | rtyler | heh |
| 23:03.10 | abrotman | ryan-c: sorry, yes |
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| 23:03.23 | abrotman | ryan-c: more like stubby finger fail :) |
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| 23:03.38 | ryan-c | the keys are like right next to each other |
| 23:03.44 | abrotman | darn things |
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| 23:04.01 | rtyler | ryan-c: I'm really hoping you were referincing that bash.org quote, and if so, well played :) |
| 23:04.40 | ryan-c | rtyler: of course :) |
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| 23:14.03 | Percoles | Hi guys |
| 23:14.33 | Percoles | How do I increase terminal buffer to increase lines? |
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| 23:18.16 | babilen | Percoles: That really depends on the terminal emulator you use. |
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| 23:18.55 | Percoles | I just installed with the netinst and changed to Terminal 12x6 |
| 23:19.01 | Percoles | I need more lines |
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| 23:19.24 | systemclient | how can I change from 686 to 468? |
| 23:21.44 | sauvin | Change what? |
| 23:21.55 | Percoles | babilen: Thank for your help... I am brazilian and I just started to use GNU/Linux |
| 23:22.16 | abrotman | systemclient: from what to what? |
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| 23:22.51 | Woet | abrotman: from 2000 BC to 1000 BC |
| 23:22.53 | babilen | Percoles: Do you use the graphical environment? (i.e. gnome) Or are we talking about the console here? |
| 23:22.56 | Percoles | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=45950 |
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| 23:23.26 | Percoles | babilen: Console... I have not installed it |
| 23:23.38 | systemclient | abrotman: it told me that my vbox would not really support kernel i686-pae would not be supported and I should use i468-pae instead |
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| 23:24.14 | sauvin | "it"? |
| 23:24.28 | babilen | Percoles: In that case you want to read info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' and adjust the values in /etc/default/grub |
| 23:24.30 | Percoles | systemclient: I am using 686 with vbox |
| 23:24.42 | sauvin | Percoles, 686 PAE? |
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| 23:24.55 | systemclient | sauvin: sry, apt-get dist-upgrade, just after switching from stable to unstable |
| 23:25.01 | abrotman | systemclient: no such thing exists .. who told you this? |
| 23:25.25 | Percoles | sauvin: PAE? Sorry |
| 23:26.11 | systemclient | abrotman: when I run apt-get dist-upgrade, it tells me (in ncurses) that it configures linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 23:26.35 | abrotman | okay, and? |
| 23:26.40 | systemclient | this system requiresa different kernel config. Debians 686 kernel as been replaces by the 686-pae config which uses PAE ... |
| 23:26.54 | abrotman | so you want the -486 without PAE, correct? |
| 23:27.03 | systemclient | you sould install linux-image-486 and remove -686 if they are installed |
| 23:27.11 | systemclient | I am not sure what I want ⦠|
| 23:27.13 | abrotman | so do that |
| 23:27.29 | systemclient | what is PAE for? do I need it? |
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| 23:28.03 | sauvin | systemclient, do you have 4GB RAM or more? |
| 23:28.05 | abrotman | probably not |
| 23:28.14 | systemclient | ah, is this that 48-bit thingy? |
| 23:28.25 | babilen | Percoles: You are, in particular, after GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX -- You might also want to play with the console configuration of the "console-setup" package and in /etc/default/console-setup |
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| 23:29.13 | Percoles | I changed grub_gfxmode to 0x143 = 800x600x32 and keep to payload |
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| 23:30.34 | Percoles | babilen: I changed fontface to terminus and fontsixe to 12x6 |
| 23:30.42 | DexterF | is stable-> testing still: change sources, update, upgrade..? |
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| 23:37.16 | abrotman | no |
| 23:37.41 | rich0_ | where can I read about debian versioning? I just uploaded 3.5.0 of some software, but my apt repo thinks it's older than 3.5.0-rc1-3 so it's not wanting to include it |
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| 23:39.37 | daemonkeeper | rich0_: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version |
| 23:39.45 | rich0_ | thanks! |
| 23:40.27 | daemonkeeper | Also, dpkg --compare-versions comes handy to you. |
| 23:40.46 | rich0_ | Aha, thanks :D |
| 23:42.09 | daemonkeeper | By the way, probably you actually meant 3.5.0~rc1-3 |
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| 23:43.32 | rich0_ | (3.5.0-rc1-3) from debian/changelog |
| 23:43.44 | rich0_ | after having a quick play with dpkg --compare-versions I think I might be in trouble |
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| 23:43.58 | daemonkeeper | But I guess you /wanted/ ~rc1-3 |
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| 23:45.18 | Percoles | Do a have to increase frame buffer or other thing |
| 23:45.18 | rich0_ | I think you're right, although upstream chose the version numbers, I'm just trying to build a new version of my fork |
| 23:46.30 | daemonkeeper | 3.5.0~rc1 means rc1 of something which becomes 3.5.0 one day. |
| 23:46.53 | daemonkeeper | But 3.5.0-rc1 is rc1 after 3.5.0 release |
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| 23:49.13 | babilen | (aka 3.6.0~rc1 or 3.5.1~rc1) |
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| 23:50.41 | rich0_ | Yep, I think I'm officially screwed. Oh well, I'll see what the official maintainer does and then try to replicate that |
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| 23:51.01 | daemonkeeper | If you are sure, there will be a 3.5.1 one day, use 3.5.1~really3.5.0 or use an epoch like 1:3.5.0 |
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| 23:52.44 | daemonkeeper | Beware 1:3.5.0 is larger than everything Debian might release. |
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| 23:53.59 | D3814N | gnome-panel doesn't autolad at startup anymore, I deleted .conf .gconf .gnome2 and still no success. Can someone pls help me out :S |
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| 23:54.19 | rich0_ | daemonkeeper: I'm going to wait on the official maintainer and plan my next move based on his actions |
| 23:54.22 | rich0_ | thanks for your help |
| 23:54.53 | DexterF | I need xserver-xorg-video-intel from testing. can I backport this like any other package or will I have to backport the kernel, too? or even more? |
| 23:55.17 | DexterF | the intel driver shipped with squeeze does not work with SandyBridge |
| 23:56.44 | jhutchins_lt | DexterF: What's the pciid of the chipset? |
| 23:57.03 | jhutchins_lt | DexterF: Which kernel do you need? |
| 23:57.28 | devil_ | i would update to wheezy, but thats just me, and i run sid anyways (with sandy bridge, btw) |
| 23:57.36 | jhutchins_lt | DexterF: Sorry, no, xorg drivers have nothing to do with the kernel. |
| 23:57.53 | daemonkeeper | Depends. |
| 23:58.05 | daemonkeeper | Some Xorg driver have a kernel counter part. Don't know about Intel |
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