| 00:00.00 | majorgrubert | it didnt do good |
| 00:00.08 | dondelelcaro | majorgrubert: what did it do? |
| 00:00.18 | majorgrubert | i mean it works |
| 00:00.29 | majorgrubert | just that it does the same as when i manually copy the content to the key |
| 00:00.32 | majorgrubert | it just doesnt boot |
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| 00:00.53 | dondelelcaro | majorgrubert: run zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdX1; and then try booting off of the device. |
| 00:01.05 | dondelelcaro | (making sure that you're using the harddrive image boot.img file) |
| 00:01.53 | dondelelcaro | majorgrubert: if that doesn't boot, then it's possible that the machine you're trying to boot doesn't support booting off of USB, or you need to select a bios option to get it to try to boot off of usb. |
| 00:01.55 | majorgrubert | i already tried to zcat boot.img.gz to the key |
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| 00:02.29 | majorgrubert | i got into the bios to set the boot from the usb, and tried to boot on another computer with it |
| 00:02.37 | majorgrubert | nothing happens on the other computer |
| 00:03.03 | majorgrubert | i also tried the unetbootin method |
| 00:03.05 | dondelelcaro | well, that method definitely works if you're doing it properly; I've installed many machines that way |
| 00:03.06 | majorgrubert | doesnt work |
| 00:03.12 | majorgrubert | i trust u |
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| 00:03.19 | majorgrubert | i just dont get where I screw up |
| 00:03.34 | dondelelcaro | majorgrubert: what are the exact commands that you are running? |
| 00:03.55 | majorgrubert | i will follow §4.3.3 and tell u exactly what I run |
| 00:04.02 | majorgrubert | so that u have a better idea of what I do |
| 00:04.14 | majorgrubert | please wait a moment |
| 00:04.27 | dondelelcaro | majorgrubert: ok; you're better off doing 4.3.2 to start with, since that has fewer commands. |
| 00:04.45 | majorgrubert | ok |
| 00:04.48 | dondelelcaro | (or 4.3.1 if you can download the miniiso) |
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| 00:05.47 | majorgrubert | by the way, i read somewhere that some keys might not be bootable |
| 00:05.50 | majorgrubert | -__-' |
| 00:06.13 | majorgrubert | are they talking about something into the hardware |
| 00:06.19 | majorgrubert | that would prevent it from booting |
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| 00:08.21 | majorgrubert | i'm trying 4.3.1, the mini iso method |
| 00:08.28 | majorgrubert | i'll get back to u after reboot |
| 00:09.56 | odn | i'm trying to install nvidia drivers, but they ask me about linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic... i've got linux-headers-2.6.35-22-amd64... someone know how to fix it ? |
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| 00:11.47 | Rockj | hm, is there any solution for the debian installer to install grub2 on a mdadm raid1 array of my system? grub2 seems to have issues with the installer using mdadm metadata newer then 0.9 if I understand threads correctly. |
| 00:11.55 | Rockj | http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/02/msg00821.html |
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| 00:12.46 | nsadmin | majorgrubert, do you have another usb device? |
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| 00:16.31 | Mack | Is there a PowerPC 64-bit build of Debian? |
| 00:16.35 | themill | odn: that sounds a lot like you're mixing debian and ubuntu packages |
| 00:16.39 | Mack | On the site I found powerpc, but nothing for 64-bit |
| 00:16.48 | nsadmin | is there a 64-bit ppc? |
| 00:17.00 | Mack | The G5s are 64-bit |
| 00:17.07 | Mack | And I have an old iMac G5 that shall become a server |
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| 00:18.41 | nsadmin | I haven't looked into that, so I don't know |
| 00:19.08 | nsadmin | are there 64-bit kernels? |
| 00:19.10 | majorgrubert | ok i'm doing zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb |
| 00:19.31 | majorgrubert | then i'll mount the key and put the iso directly to the root |
| 00:19.54 | Mack | There is amd64, ia64, and powerpc, but no powerpc64 :/ |
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| 00:21.07 | nsadmin | majorgrubert, after doing the zcat, you might want to check the size of the filesystem and how much free space there is |
| 00:21.59 | Mack | And from Google, I've found mixed results some saying that the powerpc build is 64-bit, and others saying it isn't |
| 00:22.05 | nsadmin | normally the boot.img.gz -is- a disk image (with a partition table and mbr and everything) that is a specific size |
| 00:23.03 | nsadmin | Mack, maybe you could find (or later build) a 64-bit kernel after installing all 32-bit |
| 00:23.45 | Mack | Yeah, I'm going to try downloading the powerpc build onto it |
| 00:23.54 | Mack | And maybe I'll get lucky and it will be 64-bit already |
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| 00:24.35 | fulapol | hi |
| 00:24.50 | fulapol | I have some issues with ld when compiling a software |
| 00:25.12 | majorgrubert | gosh what the heck, why does the filesystem is in read only, thats new -__-' |
| 00:25.53 | majorgrubert | ok that was a bug |
| 00:25.57 | majorgrubert | no big deal |
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| 00:26.27 | nsadmin | (again, not looked into this stuff and) #debian-ppc here or on oftc is an additional source of info |
| 00:26.28 | majorgrubert | ok i'm rebooting now |
| 00:27.04 | nsadmin | majorgrubert, you're talking to us on a different machine? |
| 00:27.16 | fulapol | I am using g++ and ld says that libstdc++.so is not compatible |
| 00:27.18 | majorgrubert | lol no ; ), i'm gonna be away for a while |
| 00:27.24 | majorgrubert | starting from now |
| 00:27.30 | majorgrubert | see u in a minute |
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| 00:27.36 | Mack | nsadmin: Oh wow, I didn't know #debianppc existed |
| 00:27.37 | fulapol | but compiling others things works |
| 00:28.03 | nsadmin | Mack, hope they know more than I do :) |
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| 00:37.25 | Woet | why can't i download snmp-mibs-downloader? "Package snmp-mibs-downloader is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
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| 00:38.38 | Woet | oh, right, "non-free" |
| 00:38.46 | Woet | silly debian |
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| 00:44.49 | Rockj | http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/02/msg00425.html , is there a way I can set the superblock version to 0.90 under install? |
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| 00:49.02 | Mack | When I boot to the installer, it asks if I want to install 32 or 64 bit. So now I know, Debian is 64 bit |
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| 00:49.40 | nsadmin | I suppose that's a good thing :) |
| 00:49.48 | Mack | Yup :) |
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| 00:50.50 | Rockj | wouldnt it be smart to use amd64 to use the 64bit arch for all software and not just the kernel if you have a cpu capable of 64bit? |
| 00:52.01 | nsadmin | Rockj, well, unless you happen to have a ppc... |
| 00:52.36 | Rockj | I guess |
| 00:52.43 | Mack | Yeah, I'm doing this on a PowerPC processor :P |
| 00:52.52 | Mack | So the amd64 wouldn't really work too well |
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| 00:54.12 | Rockj | anyway, jumping to bed now - late in norway. And frigging squeeze installer obiously doesnt like mdadm raid1 installs with seperate /boot - simple refuses to install grub2 and there's lots of bugs reports about it since february. find it odd there isnt an updated revision of squeeze with a fix :-/ |
| 00:54.16 | nsadmin | Rockj, also there can be problems if you use binary-only stuff |
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| 00:56.38 | nsadmin | Rockj, you may wish to arrange your drives so there's a little extra space for non-raid partitions |
| 00:56.49 | nsadmin | and put your boot there |
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| 00:57.27 | Rockj | I want /boot to be on raid1 aswell :-/ |
| 00:58.09 | Rockj | guess solution is to do a single hd install, then convert to raid1 afterwards and then update grub to use the array to boot from - but seriously - such a pain and amount of work for something that's supposed to be so simple :( |
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| 01:09.03 | Mack | Now to figure out if I can disable the iMac's screan |
| 01:09.05 | Mack | screen* |
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| 01:20.55 | jhutchins_lt | Mack: You'll need the ppc installer/kernel presumably. |
| 01:21.08 | jhutchins_lt | Mack: I just acquired a G4 that will eventually get debian. |
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| 01:22.08 | Mack | jhutchins_lt: Yeah, the PPC download on Debian's site included both 32-bit and 64-bit |
| 01:22.20 | jhutchins_lt | Hm. 32b ppc... |
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| 01:22.36 | jhutchins_lt | needs to learn more about architectures. |
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| 01:48.30 | freeayu | hello |
| 01:48.44 | freeayu | which virutal machine should I select. virtualbox or vmware, qemu? |
| 01:48.44 | MefhigosetH | Hello |
| 01:48.45 | freeayu | which one |
| 01:48.57 | freeayu | is better |
| 01:49.03 | centHOGG | <vmware |
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| 01:49.29 | freeayu | vmware is too big |
| 01:49.33 | MefhigosetH | Mmm... the three are good options. |
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| 01:49.36 | freeayu | take up too much memory |
| 01:49.49 | centHOGG | heh |
| 01:49.50 | MefhigosetH | Your question is relative. |
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| 01:50.06 | freeayu | which one could be easy to manage the share directory with the host machine |
| 01:50.31 | MefhigosetH | For a desktop virt, VirtualBox is the best. |
| 01:50.57 | freeayu | hmmm |
| 01:51.01 | freeayu | okay |
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| 01:51.12 | MefhigosetH | For production virt, i think that qemu is the best. |
| 01:51.29 | freeayu | what's production? |
| 01:51.41 | babilen | freeayu: You really need to tell us more about your needs? How many machines are you going to parallise? What will those be used for? ... |
| 01:52.14 | freeayu | My host is debian,. just want to use XP in the virtual |
| 01:52.22 | centHOGG | gay |
| 01:52.25 | freeayu | only one xp |
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| 01:52.43 | freeayu | but need to have a share directory with the host system |
| 01:52.44 | th0r | freeayu: I run xp in a virtualbox vm under debian and it runs fine |
| 01:52.44 | MefhigosetH | Freeayu: Production is a production virt system or solution. A non test or dev environment. |
| 01:53.29 | freeayu | th0r sounds great. any share directory with debian? |
| 01:53.38 | freeayu | easy to set it? |
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| 01:54.01 | freeayu | MefhigosetH understand. it's like a development project |
| 01:54.03 | th0r | freeayu: yes, I share two actually, and they are easy to set up. Getting XP to run under linux is actually easier than the other way around |
| 01:54.29 | freeayu | th0r great to hear about that |
| 01:54.47 | th0r | freeayu: I will say though, that I had problems with virtualbox 4.1....went back to 4.0.12 and everything runs fine |
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| 01:55.13 | MefhigosetH | So, VBox is the best for you. I 've too an XP on my Debian work pc. |
| 01:55.53 | freeayu | apt-get install virtualbox? |
| 01:56.31 | babilen | !vbox-install squeeze |
| 01:56.31 | dpkg | As root: "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` virtualbox-ose". After <DKMS> builds the necessary kernel modules, VirtualBox can be started. |
| 01:56.51 | th0r | freeayu: I think you can only get the ose from the repos. You need the standard version downloaded from virtualbox.org to be able to share folders and run fullscreen |
| 01:57.28 | freeayu | th0r okay. configure and make install by myself? |
| 01:57.42 | MefhigosetH | Freeayu: Yes, and don't miss to install the Virtualbox guest additions. |
| 01:58.11 | th0r | freeayu: they have deb files there...just download and install with dpkg. And yes, make sure you download the virtualbox extensions and install the guest additions |
| 01:58.25 | th0r | freeayu: the guest additions are included in the virtualbox deb |
| 01:58.51 | babilen | Do you have a processor with vt-x? If so a look at qemu-kvm might be worth it too |
| 02:00.00 | freeayu | th0r the deb package including the guest additions? http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads |
| 02:00.53 | th0r | freeayu: right. Further down the page is a link to earlier versions if 4.1 acts up for you |
| 02:01.39 | th0r | freeayu: there is even a ppa you can install if you desire |
| 02:01.45 | freeayu | downloaded. but some dependencies needed to be solved first |
| 02:01.56 | MefhigosetH | Good nights to everyone. I don't have more batery in my Motorola Milestone :-( |
| 02:02.13 | freeayu | MefhigosetH night |
| 02:03.35 | freeayu | th0r ppa? |
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| 02:04.23 | th0r | freeayu: right, an independent 'repo' that is not maintained by ubuntu, but rather by the software maintainer...such as oracle |
| 02:04.58 | freeayu | th0r if use apt to install, any bad things? |
| 02:05.02 | th0r | freeayu: you can add it to your repo list (/etc/apt/sources.list) so virtualbox gets updated automatically via synaptic and the autoupdater |
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| 02:05.25 | th0r | freeayu: I don't think you will have any problems. There are pretty good instructions on that page you linked |
| 02:05.36 | freeayu | okay |
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| 02:08.36 | shuckakorn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBXQneiZZYs |
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| 02:09.57 | mrgenixus | I need to get a file from a package I have installed, that is corrupted on disk |
| 02:10.00 | mrgenixus | how can I get that |
| 02:12.01 | koollman | mrgenixus: get the package, take that file out of it ? or reinstall the package. or better yet, restore backups on a new, working disk ? |
| 02:12.38 | mrgenixus | koollman: oh. um. how do I get the name of the installed version/ |
| 02:12.51 | centHOGG | force reinstall |
| 02:12.58 | koollman | mrgenixus: which file is it? |
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| 02:13.33 | koollman | mrgenixus: dpkg -S /path/to/the/file |
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| 02:14.10 | mrgenixus | awesome |
| 02:14.16 | mrgenixus | thanks so much |
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| 02:19.54 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 02:19.55 | dpkg | methinks reinstall is aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone>, <debian clone>. |
| 02:20.35 | jetscreamer | nah that's like reinstall everything |
| 02:20.57 | jetscreamer | !confmiss |
| 02:20.57 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
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| 02:21.12 | chillywilly | so I really want to install netatalk 2.2.neta4 from testing/wheezy on squeeze via apt-pinning but it wants to upgrade libc6, do you guys think things could break horribly if I do that? |
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| 02:21.19 | chillywilly | 2.2.beta4 that is |
| 02:21.31 | jetscreamer | libc6 can break lots of stuff |
| 02:21.34 | jetscreamer | it's a major thing |
| 02:21.42 | chillywilly | yes, it is |
| 02:21.46 | jetscreamer | !libc6 |
| 02:21.46 | dpkg | libc6 is the GNU C library version 2, which Debian GNU/Linux uses since version 2.0. Do not try to downgrade it. It is a essential component of your Debian system, and we are not responsible if it breaks. |
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| 02:22.24 | jetscreamer | me i'd go with 'no don't' personally |
| 02:22.32 | chillywilly | I know what libc6 is, I just want to know if anyone has done this...there's lots of crap out there on the interwebs about upgrading netatalk to handle Mac OS X Lion updates |
| 02:22.59 | chillywilly | I could always compile it or build the deb from testing |
| 02:23.18 | jetscreamer | just run sid :o |
| 02:23.20 | jetscreamer | j/k |
| 02:23.25 | chillywilly | heh |
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| 02:26.45 | nsadmin | "It is a essential component of your Debian system, and we are not responsible if it breaks." <-- what kind of a lame, irresponsible contradiction is this? |
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| 02:27.23 | nsadmin | debian maints -chose- to use it, and then they say they're not responsible?! |
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| 02:28.31 | chillywilly | attempts to build the deb from testing for netatalk on squeeze |
| 02:28.38 | Mannequin | hi. I'm having a hard time trying to print some file types (PDF, PS, SVG) |
| 02:28.42 | th0r | nsadmin: did you just come to whine or is there a question in there |
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| 02:28.59 | jetscreamer | don't they mean if you jack with it and it breakes they're not responsible? that's always been my take on it |
| 02:29.00 | nsadmin | plonk |
| 02:29.12 | Mannequin | I've already tried from 3 different systems running some debian-based distros (jolicloud, linux-mint and crunchbang) |
| 02:29.18 | nsadmin | th0r, please don't talk to or about me |
| 02:29.49 | boudiccas | nsadmin; cant face the truth? |
| 02:29.53 | Mannequin | I can print the test page (via the Printing dialog) and I also can print some plain text via command line (lp and lpr commands) |
| 02:30.21 | Mannequin | but then, when I try to print a PDF or a SVG, nothing happens |
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| 02:31.19 | Doc` | got a qustion about bind |
| 02:31.22 | nsadmin | boudiccas, kinda ironic, isn't it... I'm not sure why the bot says "not responsible if libc breaks", ot |
| 02:31.27 | Doc` | I've been allocated two IPv6 ips |
| 02:31.35 | Doc` | can I sue those in bind as nameservers? |
| 02:31.36 | Doc` | use* |
| 02:31.50 | nsadmin | er, -it- isn't saying who disclaims responsibility |
| 02:32.10 | boudiccas | nsadmin; oh do stop whining and grow up! |
| 02:32.59 | nsadmin | boudiccas, do you know whether the maints disclaim responsibility? |
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| 02:33.45 | nsadmin | also, isn't libc6 what debian used to use, and now they use some forked libc? |
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| 02:37.30 | jetscreamer | nothing like a generic 'they' eh |
| 02:37.45 | jetscreamer | i dunno, forkem :o |
| 02:39.52 | TBotNik | All: One of my computers locked up and thought I had bad motherboard only to find ext HD was responsible, but in the process somehow crashed all my network settings. HOWTO please! I have already edited the /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf, /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf; then restarted the network and even rebooted but the eth2 and the wlan0 configs do not come up and on network restart are giving "Disabled" errors. |
| 02:40.59 | nsadmin | Doc`, nameservers to perform what purpose? |
| 02:41.16 | Doc` | basically I want to run my own dns on my server |
| 02:41.30 | Doc` | and I've always just had the domain go to ns1.mymaindomain.org, ns2 |
| 02:41.40 | Doc` | then my other ones go to ns1.mymain, etc |
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| 02:41.50 | Doc` | and with this ipv6 crap it's not seeming to work |
| 02:41.59 | Doc` | ns1 IN AAAA 2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:5903:1d5f |
| 02:41.59 | Doc` | ns2 IN AAAA 2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:de6c:5e3e |
| 02:41.59 | Doc` | @ IN NS ns1.ariact.org. |
| 02:41.59 | Doc` | @ IN NS ns2.ariact.org. |
| 02:41.59 | Doc` | @ IN A 205.185.117.24 |
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| 02:42.05 | Doc` | :x |
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| 02:42.21 | Doc` | http://doctor.privatepaste.com/d243700fb7 < is what I have |
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| 02:44.12 | nsadmin | well I guess you can do what you want with your own domain... and, you may or may not want to have to learn what you need to know to run authoritative dns over your servers... if the domains are to perform at anything like fast and highly available, you almost always want someone big to pull dns duty for your domain |
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| 02:44.34 | nsadmin | otherwise, you have a LOT to learn |
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| 02:45.56 | Doc` | ah :p |
| 02:45.59 | Doc` | I've been told the wrong thing then |
| 02:46.13 | Doc` | where would you suggest I do my dns then? |
| 02:46.21 | Doc` | freedns or whatever it is? |
| 02:47.33 | Doc` | because I've been told I shouldn't go with the registrar, but then again lol |
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| 02:49.19 | nsadmin | well tdl.net does many 10s of thousands of domains, but I'm not sure they do -just- dns... you might also check out gandi.net as they're linux-friendly and the way their admin pages work is closer to the actual underlying reality |
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| 02:50.07 | nsadmin | they handled a domain for me for awhile; I would give them zone files and they would put them up |
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| 02:50.13 | mrgenixus | so, dpkg -S doesn't get me the file, it just get's me the package |
| 02:50.24 | GoodBoy | hey how do i install the gtk ? |
| 02:50.25 | mrgenixus | do I just want to use that for a parameter of file-roller? |
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| 02:50.35 | mrgenixus | .. if I want that file |
| 02:50.38 | nsadmin | err, "they" being tdl |
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| 02:50.59 | Doc` | nsadmin: cool, I'll see about it, thanks |
| 02:51.30 | nsadmin | Doc`, out of curiousity, what were you told? |
| 02:52.09 | Doc` | well a friend of mine always hosted his dns on his own domain, idk why, and that using registrars was usually slower than either on your own machine or something else |
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| 02:53.27 | nsadmin | Doc`, is he someone that would help you get going? |
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| 02:54.15 | Doc` | he was just a friend that gave me some advice when I started a server, he's a sysadmin at verisign iirc |
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| 02:54.37 | adrenalin-rush-o | Hi All |
| 02:54.39 | nsadmin | I mean, the idea of learning all the stuff, to me, seems overwhelmiong |
| 02:54.54 | nsadmin | if you do it alone |
| 02:55.08 | Doc` | mhm |
| 02:55.13 | nsadmin | but if you have someone helping you as you go, it might not be so bad |
| 02:55.29 | nsadmin | one thing you could do temporarily, |
| 02:55.53 | nsadmin | is get (say) gandi to pull the dns duty to start with |
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| 02:57.48 | adrenalin-rush-o | РебÑÑа подÑкажиÑе. Ðожно ли поÑÑавиÑÑ "вино 1,3,25 "на Ðебиан ÑÑабилÑнÑй |
| 02:58.05 | adrenalin-rush-o | The guys tell me. Can I put the "wine 1,3,25" in Debian is stable |
| 02:58.15 | adrenalin-rush-o | 6.0 |
| 02:58.36 | nsadmin | let's see: |
| 02:58.43 | nsadmin | , versions wine |
| 02:58.43 | judd | Package wine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-3.1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
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| 02:59.22 | nsadmin | so backporting would be out; you could try compiling it yourself |
| 02:59.30 | nsadmin | that seems the only way to get that version |
| 03:00.04 | adrenalin-rush-o | Thank you. but I had a mean version of the squeeze |
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| 03:01.03 | nsadmin | you want wine-1.3.25, and nowhere in debian is even close to that version, not even experimental |
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| 03:02.22 | adrenalin-rush-o | the only option to collect yourself? |
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| 03:02.46 | nsadmin | to build wine yourself, yes. |
| 03:03.33 | adrenalin-rush-o | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:06.36 | nsadmin | the only other way I can think of is if someone has their own aptable source of packages. I wouldn't know how to find them outside of a google search, and the quality of software that's not in the main section of debian weren't tested by debian maints and so at best the quality is unknown |
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| 03:07.47 | nsadmin | you would have to trust whatever source you find, which implies trusting the people who build it and the policies they adhere to |
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| 03:13.03 | ManateeLazyCat | I use sudo or gksu start application can works with IBus, but IBus can't work if i use gksu-polkit instead gksu, anybody know reason? |
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| 03:34.02 | Mack | I keep getting a bunch of unrecognized opcode errors, is GCC not generating the assembly properly? |
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| 03:39.13 | electrog1ue | hello, I am looking for something. There was an embedded Linux device that was very modular and each module programmed each other. Anyone know project this is? |
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| 03:39.38 | electrog1ue | it was ARM based and it was tiny...it acted like an organism of sorts |
| 03:39.45 | centHOGG | kewl |
| 03:41.09 | electrog1ue | I cant find this thing to save my life. I even saw youtube video of it...it just cost too much so I disregarded owning it |
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| 03:41.47 | jmarsden | electrog1ue: Maybe ask in #linuxembedded or #oe or similar embedded Linux channels? |
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| 03:47.33 | electrog1ue | jmarsden: righto |
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| 04:16.19 | monsterb | electrog1ue: Bug by buglabs? |
| 04:20.20 | monsterb | Bug 1.0 ran debian. |
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| 04:54.42 | timido | hey i have a question |
| 04:54.54 | timido | can someone help me, to insert a factoid to my blootbot? |
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| 05:12.25 | streuner | timido: http://infobot.org/ |
| 05:12.36 | timido | it does not say |
| 05:12.36 | timido | there |
| 05:12.37 | timido | ;) |
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| 05:26.26 | spal | is there an IRC server package with ChanServ, NickServ, etc.? |
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| 05:48.29 | TBotNik | All: Back, did not succeed getting network back online under HDD boot so here again on liveCD. |
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| 06:07.09 | ws2k3 | hello people i use debian alreaedy for couple of years now but i know how chown en chmod and users work. but i wanne learn more about linux groups what benefit u have if u place a user in a group somebody has a good link for me ? |
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| 06:23.47 | Dewi | ws2k3: generally works a lot like users, but can be shared between several of them |
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| 06:26.28 | benjie | hi! How can I transfer/clone a debian squeeze to another computer, same hardware |
| 06:26.55 | anotherone | use clonezilla |
| 06:27.29 | anotherone | but try parted magic |
| 06:27.40 | anotherone | there is clonezilla application too |
| 06:27.40 | benjie | I have partimage |
| 06:27.47 | benjie | and fsarchiver |
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| 06:27.59 | anotherone | try parted magic to clone |
| 06:28.23 | anotherone | believe in me, fast and simple |
| 06:28.33 | benjie | is there a live cd for that? |
| 06:28.46 | benjie | or much better usb boot.... |
| 06:28.52 | anotherone | parted magic is live cd |
| 06:28.55 | anotherone | usb |
| 06:29.05 | anotherone | usb too |
| 06:29.49 | anotherone | benjie you will have all in one using parted magic |
| 06:30.00 | benjie | ok I see it in distrowatch -- I'll try that. |
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| 06:30.44 | benjie | does this do cloning magically? :) |
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| 06:32.47 | anotherone | yeah |
| 06:33.14 | anotherone | well I tried a lot of disk clone software / distro |
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| 06:36.42 | neurolysis | Hm... I had a server have power failure today whilst I was asleep, it fell back to UPS, and now power is back online. However, when I try to restart the server, the `shutdown' process almost immediately becomes dead state... what should I do? |
| 06:36.47 | benjie | okay -- I'll if I can find some article on actually cloning a system to another computer using parted magic... |
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| 06:42.41 | anotherone | neurolysis I didnt understand you |
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| 06:43.08 | neurolysis | anotherone: I can't restart it. Shutdown becomes dead state almost immediately. |
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| 06:43.58 | anotherone | did you tried use some debian fall back? |
| 06:45.19 | anotherone | man I don't remember the process how happened, but if I remember. try update your system or possibility your kernel |
| 06:45.28 | neurolysis | ... |
| 06:45.38 | neurolysis | that seems completely irrelevant to my problem. |
| 06:45.43 | anotherone | may there is a relational call sys corrupt |
| 06:46.44 | anotherone | if were this ... I dont know if it is a kernel parameter (maybe corrupt), or script resolution |
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| 06:47.49 | anotherone | some idea to you try, sorry I tried help you, but I never saw this problem |
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| 06:48.52 | Rockj | neurolysis: you get zombie process of the "shutdown" process? |
| 06:49.04 | neurolysis | yes |
| 06:49.05 | neurolysis | $ ps aux | grep 'shutdown' |
| 06:49.05 | neurolysis | root 4754 0.0 0.1 1888 720 ? D 07:26 0:00 shutdown -r 0 w |
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| 06:49.44 | Rockj | you could try some sysrq magiq to cleanly sync disk io and unmount before doing a "hold the power button in until it turns off" |
| 06:49.59 | Rockj | http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/SysRq_Help |
| 06:50.50 | neurolysis | thanks, will try that |
| 06:50.55 | neurolysis | but i have no physical access |
| 06:50.58 | cnz | you could also try a baseball bat |
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| 06:52.58 | Rockj | hmf, tricky withotu physical acess tho. I guess I would try sysrq s (sync) u (remount read only) and then do b (reboot) and hope for the best |
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| 06:56.18 | deever | hi |
| 06:56.51 | deever | how can i disable ipv6 DNS (AAAA record) lookups? |
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| 06:57.27 | Rockj | unloading the ipv6 module. |
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| 06:58.03 | swulf--_ | I recently upgraded libc6-dev (apt-get update & apt-get install libc6-dev), but now I get a missing stubs-32.h whenever I compile *anything*. any ideas how to fix this? |
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| 06:58.46 | Rockj | deever: which you do by rmmod ipv6 , then do a /etc/init.d/networking restart (I belive might be required) |
| 06:58.52 | swulf--_ | I have stubs-32.h in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gnu/ but not in /usr/include/gnu, which is where .. it used to be. |
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| 07:00.34 | jmarsden | swulf--_: Either you should understand the change that led to this, or else you can just bodge it, and symlink from where it used to be to where it is now :) |
| 07:00.36 | Rockj | swulf--_: my c skills is is rather low, but can't you specify "gnu"-include to your configure? |
| 07:00.46 | deever | Rockj: the ipv6 module is not loaded at all |
| 07:01.17 | swulf--_ | jmarsden, rockj: problem is that there's a bunch of stuff in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu that aren't included. if i symlink or copy the header, the compiler then complains of missing crti.o. |
| 07:01.37 | swulf--_ | i'd rather have a working debian install, of course :) |
| 07:01.41 | Rockj | deever: sure? lsmod | grep ipv6 says? |
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| 07:02.00 | jmarsden | Then you need to use my first option... find out why the change happened :) Any clues in the changelog of the new libc6-dev package? |
| 07:02.06 | swulf--_ | jmarsden, rockj: can I force a re-install of the libc6-dev package? How, if so? |
| 07:02.09 | Rockj | deever: might be that your kernel has it compiled in, and not as a module. Then you have to recompile the kernel afaik. |
| 07:02.12 | swulf--_ | jmarsden: I'll look. |
| 07:03.11 | swulf--_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.12 | swulf--_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.13 | swulf--_ | interesting |
| 07:03.35 | anotherone | bsd kernel more security ;) |
| 07:04.10 | jmarsden | swulf--_: So is /usr/include/gnu a symlink to /usr/include/i486-linux-gnu or something like that? |
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| 07:04.26 | swulf--_ | jmarsden: not on my machine.. though that could be suspect, huh? |
| 07:04.52 | swulf--_ | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-08-05 13:53 gnu |
| 07:05.27 | Rockj | deever: test -f /proc/net/if_inet6 && echo "Running kernel is IPv6 ready" |
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| 07:07.14 | deever | Rockj: yes, the file is there...mb i try to delete the ipv6 addresses from the ifaces |
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| 07:11.22 | deever | Rockj: do you know how to remove addresses from an interface? |
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| 07:12.59 | Kromgol | Anyone that could recommend a backup utility that's able to backup the whole filesystem? Or at least parts of it |
| 07:13.12 | th0r | Kromgol: rsync |
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| 07:14.42 | RafaFuturo | Ok now im loving debian |
| 07:14.49 | Kromgol | th0r: Is there any tutorial for rsync backup on Debian available? |
| 07:15.36 | Kromgol | Nvm |
| 07:15.38 | Kromgol | Found something |
| 07:15.44 | th0r | Kromgol: rsync has been around forever, so I am sure there is plenty of info on the web. You might also want to look at grsync...the gui frontend |
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| 07:16.00 | Kromgol | Nah, i run without X on my server |
| 07:16.12 | deever | Kromgol: or rsnapshot/rbackup |
| 07:16.21 | th0r | Kromgol: I'm proud of you <smile> |
| 07:16.29 | Kromgol | lol |
| 07:17.00 | Kromgol | deever: I did try rsnapshot, but i failed. |
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| 07:22.45 | deever | Kromgol: how do you mean that? |
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| 07:23.38 | Kromgol | deever: I tried selecting which directories to sync in the configuration file, and i did exactly as i was supposed to. But it wouldn't pass the config check. |
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| 07:25.42 | X-Raimo | hello. How do I make my initscript start during system start. I've made invoke-rc.d mydeamon start, also I tried to add links (S03mydeamon) to rcX.d folders |
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| 07:27.45 | Rockj | deever: are you running a custom kernel? afaik you should be able to just rmmod ipv6 and do a networking restart to get rid of ipv6 and your system wont be doing ipv6 dns queries as ipv6 is not loaded IF your running a kernel that comes from debian repositories |
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| 07:31.27 | foobaru | Anyone try out bumblebee with the newer Optimus hybrid gpus? |
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| 07:32.41 | Rockj | deever: echo net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 > /etc/sysctl.d/disableipv6.conf |
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| 07:32.51 | Rockj | deever: reboot and it shouldn't enable ipv6 I think. |
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| 07:33.36 | deever | Rockj: forget about it...was a router problem! ;) |
| 07:34.56 | deever | Kromgol: what did you do "oppositely"? ;) |
| 07:35.14 | Kromgol | deever: ? |
| 07:37.41 | cnz | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 07:37.41 | dpkg | Following a release, testing tends to be more of a developer's playground and a <moving target>. If you have to ask how to do this, ask yourself if you know enough about Debian packaging to run a non-stable release yet. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like squeeze-updates and backports, then change squeeze to wheezy. "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade". See also <testing> and <apt-listbugs>. |
| 07:39.07 | deever | Kromgol: with rsnapshot i mean! ;) |
| 07:39.43 | Kromgol | I didn't do anything oppositely D: |
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| 07:40.40 | Kromgol | Great, i was using rsync and it managed to nearly delete my whole storage disk :D |
| 07:40.50 | Kromgol | I forgot a "/" at the end of the backup directory |
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| 07:57.22 | cnz | is there anyway to recover yoru root password for mysql if you forget it |
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| 07:58.34 | deever | cnz: yes, but not debian-specific |
| 07:59.23 | cnz | deever: ok, how would I go about recovery it? |
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| 08:01.01 | deever | cnz: ask in #mysql, the probably know |
| 08:01.14 | deever | s/the/they/ |
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| 08:17.50 | fubs | hmm, the removal of a realtek alsa driver removed the snd_hda_intel /etc/init.d/alsa etc.etc. How do i get those back? |
| 08:17.51 | syntaxx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:22.53 | legs | hi all |
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| 08:33.10 | legs | sup people |
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| 08:34.04 | cnz | is there a better ftp server for debian than proftpd? |
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| 08:36.42 | babilen | cnz: No FTPd? But vsftpd is worth a look too. Note that "/msg dpkg ftp must die" |
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| 08:39.25 | brotatos | what does the d in dpkg stand for? |
| 08:39.49 | cnz | babilen: that's very interesting |
| 08:39.59 | cnz | debian |
| 08:40.01 | cnz | is my guess |
| 08:40.05 | brotatos | thanks |
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| 08:40.15 | capri | im using a lun mapped with fibrechannel to my debian. now i resized my lun and i want, that debian recognize that and get the new size. is this possible online or i have to reboot the system? |
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| 08:57.17 | hahnp | i accidently deleted my passwd file, someone knows a trick how to get all the users back |
| 08:57.23 | hahnp | i hardly could get my gnome to work |
| 08:57.29 | hahnp | but still some problems :D |
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| 08:59.41 | lancelot_of | hi there |
| 08:59.51 | lancelot_of | how ot take screenshot? |
| 09:02.25 | lancelot_of | not in kde or gnome or whatever DE |
| 09:02.25 | lancelot_of | just on X |
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| 09:04.01 | benjie | anybody know how to restore/install grub2 to my debian squeeze computer? |
| 09:04.07 | benjie | using parted magic |
| 09:04.46 | capri | im using a lun mapped with fibrechannel to my debian. now i resized my lun and i want, that debian recognize that and get the new size. is this possible online or i have to reboot the system? |
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| 09:06.19 | deeLer | capri, you'll have to reboot, using a emulex, then fdisk a new partition |
| 09:06.50 | capri | deeLer: do you know its planned to fix this? |
| 09:07.20 | capri | windows could do this online, so im sure, linux could also in a few "years" ^ |
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| 09:07.48 | brammator | which debian repo should I use for wheezy? |
| 09:08.31 | Bushmills | a local one |
| 09:08.34 | deeLer | this is driver-related to your HBA card |
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| 09:09.32 | cnz | anyone know how to fix this issue http://pastebin.com/dm24ZR9U |
| 09:09.56 | capri | deeLer: ok, so qlogic driver need update to fix this ^^ |
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| 09:10.24 | deeLer | capri, possibly, I don't use qlogic |
| 09:10.34 | TiMIDo | hey does anyeone in here knows how to insert a factoid to blootbot? |
| 09:10.35 | capri | ok :) |
| 09:10.39 | TiMIDo | i forgot the command |
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| 09:11.37 | TiMIDo | gzip -dc apt_dump|grep 'INSERT INTO `factoids`'|sed 's/INSERT/REPLACE/'|mysql -ublootbot -p blootbot |
| 09:11.41 | TiMIDo | does not work |
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| 09:13.34 | babilen | lancelot_of: scrot works nice |
| 09:14.45 | babilen | TiMIDo: You might want to ask in #infobot (btw, blootbot is old and infobot should be used) |
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| 09:18.21 | cnz | anyone have an idea on http://pastebin.com/dm24ZR9U |
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| 09:22.24 | tvm_ | is it normal that 3.0 doesn't builds with make-kpkg |
| 09:22.33 | tvm_ | s/$/?/ |
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| 09:51.07 | Sw33NY_ | hi |
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| 09:57.02 | Rockj | Q: when installing debian, and I come to the software selection ... is there a list somewhere on the web that actually tells me what packages it installs? like "File server", what does it install and do? |
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| 09:57.18 | Rockj | (always used jsut standard system utilities and fixed everything manually) |
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| 10:00.17 | fubs | Rockj: run tasksel --new-install --task-packages |
| 10:00.18 | fubs | i think |
| 10:00.22 | fubs | ;man tasksel |
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| 10:03.13 | Rockj | aha :) |
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| 10:05.57 | andref | hi, I'm now during compilation |
| 10:06.22 | andref | how to change priority of compiling process at once? |
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| 10:07.03 | Rockj | andref: you can use nice , abit unsure about syntax but a quick look into man should do the trick |
| 10:07.04 | andref | renice does not work, bacause cpp1 process is created every few seconds |
| 10:07.14 | Rockj | oh :/ |
| 10:07.29 | Rockj | doesnt it get forked by a parent process and you can nice that one? |
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| 10:07.42 | andref | oh, maybe |
| 10:07.55 | Rockj | check with htop (gives you nice tree view) |
| 10:10.04 | ksk | pstree (-p) does too (and is non-interactive) |
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| 10:10.38 | hroi | hi |
| 10:10.45 | hroi | Im running debian as a server |
| 10:11.01 | hroi | and installed some gnome dependent stuff like emacs |
| 10:11.14 | hroi | well at least the emacs Im using |
| 10:11.32 | hroi | anyway... when i start emacs over an ssh -X |
| 10:11.34 | hroi | session |
| 10:11.53 | andref | Rockj: I do not have htop in system |
| 10:11.54 | andref | ;) |
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| 10:12.03 | hroi | I get GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most .... missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon |
| 10:12.16 | ksk | Adriien: but pstree? :p |
| 10:12.18 | hroi | emacs opens non-the less |
| 10:12.23 | Rockj | andref: hehe - pstree as ksk suggested will do aswell. Im just way too used to htop |
| 10:12.31 | Rockj | im also pretty sure your able to even list it with ps .. hm |
| 10:12.32 | hroi | Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: /usr/bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally without any error message |
| 10:12.56 | Rockj | aye, ps -ejH frmo "man ps" ;p |
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| 10:13.40 | andref | pstree -p |
| 10:13.41 | andref | ;) |
| 10:13.43 | andref | yes |
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| 10:14.13 | andref | Rockj: thanks |
| 10:14.30 | Rockj | I'll do admit the pstree -p had nice ascii - haha. |
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| 10:15.51 | TBotNik | All: Wifi settings not holding any ideas? |
| 10:15.57 | Rockj | hroi: sorry, have no experieence running GUI programs over ssh. just that it's either -X or -x option. |
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| 10:16.25 | Rockj | now on my awesome fileserver, I wonder if I should bother with winbind or not. |
| 10:18.35 | Whitesquall | TBotNik: what are you use to connect to your wifi? |
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| 10:21.11 | TBotNik | Whitesquall: Have DLink DWL-G520. I works but computer did bad shutdown and now all screwed up. |
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| 10:22.23 | Whitesquall | TBotNik: setting stored in network-manager? |
| 10:22.29 | Whitesquall | *settings |
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| 10:24.28 | TBotNik | Whitesquall: I've edited the nm-systems-settings.conf file, change managed from false to true and back again, disabled in boot up applications, etc. but nothing is working. |
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| 10:29.11 | metaphlex | I have a broken dependency pidgin-ppa. any advice? I've never fixed a broken dependency before |
| 10:30.34 | TBotNik | Whitesquall: Even have a network restart script but not helping. Sometimes I get 1/2 way there then it screws me again. There are 2 extra false connections [ifupdown (eth2) and ifupdown (wlan0)] showing under "wired" connections in Network Manager, but can not delete them. I think there is another place in gnome or gconf that is holding these and that is where the problem is coming from, these conflict with the real eth2 and wlan0 settin |
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| 10:35.57 | DotHack | is it possible to add a group to a group? for istance i have user1 user2 and user3 in group1 and user4 and user5 in group2 and i want to have a group3 that has group1 and group2 as members |
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| 10:38.47 | TBotNik | All: Anyone else have ideas on how I fix my WiFi? |
| 10:39.59 | neurolysis | Top tip: your messages go to everyone by default. |
| 10:40.05 | neurolysis | No need to prefix with 'All'. |
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| 10:49.27 | fips4d | re |
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| 10:50.38 | xreal | Anyone with an idea, where the PGDATA is stored in squeeze? Only in the config? |
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| 11:25.00 | Derick | Hi! Where can I read about plans for getting GNOME3 (or rather, not) into Debian (unstable)? |
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| 11:28.05 | macrobat | maybe there is a gnome team with a mailing list? |
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| 11:31.20 | DimmuR | which is now prefered method of running init scripts? old style /etc/init.d/ or upstart? |
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| 11:32.04 | devil_ | DimmuR: still oldstyle init atm, future prolly belongs to systemd |
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| 11:32.23 | DimmuR | thanks devil_ |
| 11:32.52 | ansgar | Derick: GNOME3 is already partly in unstable. And I doubt the maintainers want to keep an unmaintained version in Debian... |
| 11:33.01 | devil_ | upstart is more ubuntuish |
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| 11:34.01 | Derick | ansgar: guess I should look for a new thing then :-/ |
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| 11:42.24 | m8 | when i try to type anything gnome-terminal crashes |
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| 11:43.48 | xreal | Anyone with an idea, where the PGDATA is stored in squeeze? Only in the config? |
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| 11:45.56 | obiwahn | is there a way to determine the next free display for xinit |
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| 11:48.24 | yagoo | obiwahn, like :1 ? |
| 11:48.38 | yagoo | if u use "--" means next free available space... |
| 11:49.06 | yagoo | so u can start up more than 1 Xserver.. i dont see much praticality though.. |
| 11:49.31 | yagoo | (xinit -- &) |
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| 11:50.15 | yagoo | i may use xinit just to test and exit.. of course u don't normally start X like this |
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| 11:52.00 | obiwahn | why not? |
| 11:52.21 | yagoo | actually i tried this xinit.. it's a bummer |
| 11:52.49 | yagoo | i believe more proper way is startx -- :1 & and then u can have a startx -- :2 & |
| 11:53.30 | yagoo | the rest is just homework.. |
| 11:53.39 | yagoo | u have to check ur startx scripts etc.. |
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| 11:54.06 | yagoo | gdm/kdm can also start on separate screens.. or u can even have 2 gdms running at the same time i believe.. |
| 11:54.14 | yagoo | this is ideal for multi-seat machines.. |
| 11:54.25 | yagoo | (meaning two people sharing the same computer) |
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| 11:55.32 | obiwahn | mh that is waht we are doing |
| 11:55.36 | yagoo | oh |
| 11:55.38 | yagoo | lol |
| 11:55.58 | obiwahn | i use xinit there is not much difference to startx |
| 11:56.05 | yagoo | obiwahn, well people have done this.. shouldn't be too hard.. but is hard if you're new to linux |
| 11:56.32 | niidst | hey... i have a ruby script in my home directory... how can i do for bash command perkns run the /home/Desktop/perkns.rb? |
| 11:56.33 | obiwahn | ust because i am lazy i don't want to keep track of the used displays |
| 11:56.38 | yagoo | obiwahn, it's easier to make a copy of the gdm startup script and just assign it a :1 for the second (the first is automatically :0) |
| 11:56.43 | yagoo | ":0" :) |
| 11:56.51 | obiwahn | mh in most cases i will not need more than 0,1 |
| 11:57.02 | yagoo | (eg: /etc/init.d/gdm2 << a copy of /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 11:57.14 | yagoo | also.. |
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| 11:57.21 | obiwahn | i hate gdm kde wdm and all that stuff:P |
| 11:57.24 | niidst | any ideas? |
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| 11:57.44 | yagoo | make a new xorg.conf in /etc/X11 -- call it like-- /etc/X11/xorg-seat2.conf ... and have this .conf specified somewhere from the gdm2 script.. |
| 11:57.52 | yagoo | u using what as ur desktop? |
| 11:58.00 | yagoo | oh thats fine then.. |
| 11:58.08 | niidst | please! |
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| 11:58.14 | obiwahn | niidst: chmod 750 yourscript |
| 11:58.31 | obiwahn | make sure it has the #! |
| 11:58.33 | yagoo | see the manpage of xinit.. |
| 11:58.39 | obiwahn | so your interpreter will be found |
| 11:58.42 | yagoo | use another conf file to use separate keyboard/monitor resource |
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| 11:59.01 | obiwahn | and run it with /path/to/script |
| 11:59.14 | obiwahn | or in case you are in the dir via ./script |
| 11:59.22 | niidst | ls |
| 11:59.38 | niidst | i don't want run ./script.. |
| 11:59.42 | obiwahn | yagoo: thanks i konw how xinit works |
| 11:59.56 | yagoo | if ur lazy to make an xorg.conf file.. unplug the stuff u dont need for 1 user (like the mouse/keyboard/monitor) and do a X -configure |
| 12:00.00 | yagoo | :) |
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| 12:00.09 | obiwahn | then put the script or a symbloic link in your path |
| 12:00.20 | niidst | i want that command perks run the script on /home/../Desktop/perks.rb but when i run perks: command not found |
| 12:00.58 | obiwahn | ln -s /blaballba/perks.rv ~/.bin/perks |
| 12:01.06 | obiwahn | create .bin first |
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| 12:01.29 | obiwahn | and export $PATH=$PATH:~./bin |
| 12:01.41 | obiwahn | and export PATH=$PATH:~./bin |
| 12:02.25 | yagoo | i believe u have xdm no? |
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| 12:02.35 | yagoo | xdm requires no gdm or kdm base libraries.. |
| 12:02.56 | yagoo | cuse i just looked at the xinit manual and u cant specify an xorg.conf option.. |
| 12:02.57 | obiwahn | i just uses xinit for the alst 5 years |
| 12:03.16 | obiwahn | you can use -layout |
| 12:03.19 | yagoo | well what is :0 and :1 ? |
| 12:03.37 | obiwahn | displays |
| 12:03.37 | yagoo | u were asking about passing display to xinit.. this is in the manpage.. |
| 12:03.44 | yagoo | yah.. |
| 12:03.52 | yagoo | but they need to be specified somewhere... |
| 12:03.53 | obiwahn | i dont want to pass a digit |
| 12:04.01 | yagoo | where is :0 and :1 specified? |
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| 12:04.08 | obiwahn | i want a script that gives me the number for the next free display |
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| 12:04.42 | niidst | obiwahn: don't work. :s |
| 12:04.52 | yagoo | obiwahn, you're lying.. |
| 12:05.07 | yagoo | obiwahn, 5 years with xinit? seems like you're experimenting for 5 minutes.. |
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| 12:05.44 | Rockj | hmf, can you setup mdadm raid1 on a bios partition table? or will debian detect these on each drive of the raid1 array and fix the bootloader? |
| 12:05.50 | yagoo | i just gave u a solution.. |
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| 12:06.17 | yagoo | i told you everything to get it working (making separate xorg.conf).. apply 2 xdm to separate .conf.. |
| 12:06.29 | yagoo | that way it's easy and elegant.. |
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| 12:07.05 | obiwahn | yagoo:DISPLAY=0; while [ -e "/tmp/.X${DISPLAY}-lock" ] ; do DISPLAY=$(( $DISPLAY + 1 )); done; |
| 12:07.13 | obiwahn | seperate xorg.conf?! |
| 12:07.43 | obiwahn | you are kind of stupid .. sorry |
| 12:07.49 | yagoo | thought u said it was multiseat.. to make it easier |
| 12:07.56 | yagoo | well u're asking over and over.. |
| 12:08.08 | yagoo | i'm stupid for helping.. ur thanks appreciated.. |
| 12:08.53 | obiwahn | what do you expect |
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| 12:09.10 | obiwahn | you do not understand the problem. |
| 12:09.27 | obiwahn | then you start flaming me. |
| 12:09.38 | obiwahn | there is no need to thank you. |
| 12:10.10 | yagoo | there's a million ways to start X. I'm stupid for mentioning the wrong one. |
| 12:10.15 | yagoo | No thank you to too. |
| 12:10.22 | yagoo | jackass |
| 12:10.37 | themill | please try to keep it constructive, guys |
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| 12:11.18 | yagoo | themill, it's okay.. it's only 5 years old.. |
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| 12:25.41 | factorx | Is it possible to set a user's login shell to /bin/false while this user still has to run cronjobs? |
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| 12:29.57 | phycho | hey guys |
| 12:30.07 | phycho | nightly iso release broken for testing? |
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| 12:39.57 | abrotman | phycho: possibly .. that's why they call it testing |
| 12:41.35 | abrotman | factorx: i would doubt it .. the cron man pages may say more |
| 12:43.01 | babilen | factorx: The preferred way is to install squeeze and upgrade from there, because you can use the stable *installer* that way. Please also refer to the information linked from the /topic of #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:43.02 | phycho | abrotman: any ideas where I will find archived copies? |
| 12:43.28 | babilen | phycho: ^^^^ (ENICK - sorry) |
| 12:43.34 | phycho | ah, ty. |
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| 12:43.51 | svip | How do I check which version of Debian I am using by command? |
| 12:44.00 | svip | Varnish's guide suggests lsb_release -s -c |
| 12:44.01 | babilen | !tell svip about version |
| 12:44.12 | babilen | svip: yes, that works |
| 12:44.25 | svip | I don't have lsb_release |
| 12:44.47 | babilen | svip: Install it if you need it |
| 12:44.52 | wols | !version |
| 12:44.52 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 12:45.06 | svip | Which package is it in? |
| 12:45.22 | wols | !tell svip about search |
| 12:45.30 | svip | wols: That returned nothing. >_> |
| 12:45.44 | babilen | svip: lsb-release. You might want to ask our bot about <search> <apt-file> and <aptitude search>. For example: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 12:46.01 | babilen | svip: Please check the private messages from dpkg |
| 12:46.10 | svip | I did. |
| 12:46.24 | svip | Thanks though, the hyphen vs. underscore was the problem. |
| 12:46.30 | wols | svip: and you got one |
| 12:46.39 | svip | I did get it now! |
| 12:46.47 | svip | Thanks again. |
| 12:46.50 | babilen | yw |
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| 12:50.47 | xreal | Can anyone please tell me, how to set up sysstat correctly? |
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| 12:51.54 | abrotman | setup? to do what? |
| 12:52.52 | Lesterwood | why am i having such a hard time configuring scim |
| 12:53.02 | Lesterwood | i want to be able to type chinese charecters and shit |
| 12:53.12 | Lesterwood | any ideas |
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| 12:55.35 | xreal | abrotman: I've enabled it... that's it? |
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| 12:55.58 | abrotman | xreal: what more did you want from it? |
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| 12:56.25 | xreal | abrotman: I want to log it to a file, since I want to analyse its content after a week or so. |
| 12:56.38 | xreal | disk usage, cpu usage, memory etc. |
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| 12:58.10 | wols | does testing now support nouveau with 3D? |
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| 13:00.37 | abrotman | xreal: did you look in /usr/share/doc/sysstat/ |
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| 13:09.44 | xreal | abrotman: ;) |
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| 13:11.49 | xreal | nice... No manual entry for sysstat |
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| 13:19.08 | abrotman | i didn't say man pages ... |
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| 13:19.40 | abrotman | xreal: and you want man 1 sar.sysstat |
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| 13:20.46 | squidlyx | Hi guys, currently working at moving my personal webserver away from a cpanel vps to a debian vps with no controlpanel installed. I have got the basic server going (lighttpd, mysql, php, phpmyadmin, proftpd). The last hurdle is getting bind/dns going so I can set the cname/a records for the various domains. Anyone know of a good guide to help set up bind to run your own nameservers (ns1 & ns2.hzd.com.au)? The vps I am setting up |
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| 13:20.58 | squidlyx | tutorial that is not about setting up a DNS caching server for a network |
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| 13:26.21 | colo-work | squidlyx, I'd recommend looking at powerdns as an alternative to bind |
| 13:26.47 | xreal | abrot: thx |
| 13:27.27 | andref | hi, :> |
| 13:27.33 | andref | ranlib: could not create temporary file whilst writing archive: No more archived files |
| 13:27.49 | andref | while doing checkinstall |
| 13:27.58 | andref | any solution? |
| 13:28.32 | abrotman | xreal: FWIW, dpkg -L sysstat | grep man |
| 13:28.46 | abrotman | andref: out of disk space or inodes ? |
| 13:29.44 | andref | abrotman: |
| 13:29.46 | andref | no |
| 13:29.47 | andref | ;) |
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| 13:30.18 | andref | abrotman: tmpfs 474M 0 474M 0% /dev/shm |
| 13:30.21 | andref | yes |
| 13:30.30 | andref | what is tempfs? |
| 13:30.32 | andref | :> |
| 13:31.08 | andref | lol |
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| 13:32.28 | andref | how to clean up tempfs? |
| 13:32.54 | xreal | abrotman: Nice, noted down. |
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| 13:34.10 | ecksun | I was upgrading to wheezy (aptitude --download-only full-upgrade) and aborted after a little while (still downloading packages), now when i try to continue I get a huge conflict (it suggest removing half my system, including gnome), is there some way to reset aptitude or the likes, so i can get back to the previous state? |
| 13:34.28 | ecksun | I also get internal errors when i try to run full-upgrade again |
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| 13:35.23 | wols | !tell ecksun about bat |
| 13:35.53 | ecksun | sure thing, give me a sec |
| 13:36.13 | ecksun | however the output of the command i aborted has dissapered up and out of my backlog |
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| 13:37.01 | andref | lol, as usualy I cannot get no solution here ;) |
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| 13:37.37 | ecksun | andref, tmpfs is in ram, and cleaning it up i guess would just mean to remove stuff from /dev/shm |
| 13:37.41 | ecksun | http://paste.debian.net/125189/ |
| 13:38.01 | wols | ecksun: removing stuff from /dev/shm is kinda hard... |
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| 13:38.10 | themill | andref: that output is irrelevant |
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| 13:38.27 | ecksun | wols, okay :( |
| 13:38.50 | Justin | ecksun: try apt-get install apt |
| 13:39.39 | ecksun | okay, how would that help? |
| 13:40.59 | Justin | by a) not using aptitude, and b) upgrading a bunch of packages |
| 13:41.52 | ecksun | hmm, way to simple and elegant for me to think of ;) |
| 13:41.58 | ecksun | apt-get upgrade didnt complain at all |
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| 13:42.49 | ecksun | Justin, do you have any idea what caused the problem i pasted? |
| 13:43.07 | ecksun | or rather, why that would ha ppen when i abort |
| 13:43.10 | Justin | aptitude, most likely |
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| 13:43.36 | ecksun | :D |
| 13:43.40 | ecksun | well, yes :) |
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| 13:43.58 | Justin | installing apt should upgrade that, libc6, a bunch of other things |
| 13:44.08 | ecksun | it did not upgrade much |
| 13:44.10 | Justin | once that works, apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade should have you fully upgraded |
| 13:44.51 | ecksun | yeah, apt-get didnt complain as I mentioned, so Im doing it that way |
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| 13:45.07 | ecksun | i really need to figure out the difference between apt-get and aptitude |
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| 13:45.59 | Justin | in my experience, apt-get works and does what you tell it to do. aptitude fucks up all the time and tries to remove half your packages |
| 13:46.10 | ecksun | :D |
| 13:46.11 | abrotman | then you're doing it wrong |
| 13:46.16 | TBotNik | All: Where is a good HOWTO on setting up this kind of bridging/masquerade on wicd? |
| 13:46.21 | ecksun | for some reason I have gotten used to aptitude |
| 13:46.34 | abrotman | TBotNik: the Debian wiki covers bridging |
| 13:46.36 | Justin | abrotman: aptitude makes it too easy to do it wrong |
| 13:46.58 | abrotman | Justin: still better than dselect! |
| 13:46.59 | themill | ecksun: for big upgrades, aptitude tries to be too clever and gets things wrong; for most day-to-day package management and especially in difficult to handle situations, aptitude is better |
| 13:47.06 | TBotNik | abrotman: with wicd? |
| 13:47.13 | Justin | abrotman: that's true.. most confusing application ever |
| 13:47.15 | abrotman | Justin: i think the problem is that most people don't realize you can say 'n' and get a next set of package options |
| 13:47.28 | ecksun | themill, hmm, i see, thats a good explanation |
| 13:47.30 | ecksun | thx |
| 13:48.04 | abrotman | TBotNik: i don't use wicd for bridging two networks .. not a clue |
| 13:49.00 | abrotman | TBotNik: you oculd uh .. try it |
| 13:50.04 | TBotNik | abrotman: already loaded it, but noobie on it so can't figure the bridge/masquerade thing out yet. |
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| 13:51.15 | TBotNik | abrotman: Actually working, you see me here via wicd now don't you!! |
| 13:53.56 | TBotNik | abrotman: When I get the LAN linked in then I'm done. Been at this since 2 pm CDT, now 5 am, so trying to finish. |
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| 13:54.20 | TBotNik | sorry 9 am, read the clock wrong. |
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| 14:00.37 | jason404 | Q: If I want to change the source code for a program that is already installed, can I just run the ap-get command to only download the source, modify it, and then install it over the current installation? |
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| 14:01.25 | themill | dpkg: tell jason404 about package recompile |
| 14:01.51 | jason404 | themill: thanks |
| 14:02.01 | simonlnu | you have our permission :P |
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| 14:02.46 | jason404 | themill: so it is okay to just reinstall over the current installation? |
| 14:02.54 | babilen | yes |
| 14:02.58 | jason404 | ok thanks |
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| 14:03.43 | themill | jason404: you'll be making a package with a different version string and then using "dpkg -i foo.deb" to install it. The package system handles that quite happily. |
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| 14:04.13 | jason404 | ok |
| 14:05.17 | simonlnu | fyi manpages-dev update conflicts with libaio-dev (aio_init.3) |
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| 14:08.02 | jason404 | themill: the program was originally installed using apt-get. does this make any difference? I am not sure what the relatopnship is between apt-get and dpkg. I have only used apt-get. |
| 14:08.34 | themill | jason404: apt-get just downloads packages and coordinates dpkg to install them. |
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| 14:09.22 | jason404 | themill: I see. so apt-get install actually uses dpkg |
| 14:09.48 | hwq001 | dpkg:tell hwq001 about package recompile |
| 14:10.19 | hwq001 | dpkg: tell hwq001 about package recompile |
| 14:10.56 | babilen | hwq001: "/msg dpkg package recompile" is easier and you don't spam the channel. |
| 14:11.20 | abrotman | !tell hwq001 about selftell |
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| 14:19.40 | Devastator-work | is there a pastebin package for me to paste within ssh? |
| 14:20.24 | ecksun | pastebinit |
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| 14:22.10 | Devastator-work | thanks |
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| 14:25.59 | squid | hello! |
| 14:26.06 | abrotman | eek! |
| 14:26.20 | Guest3013 | hello squid |
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| 14:26.59 | silly_newb | Hi. I have an extraction problem. i have '| cpio -idm share/foo/zap share/bar/something'. It refuses to extract the last file. If I switch the files around, share/bar/something is extracted but not share/foo/zap. Ideas? |
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| 14:36.20 | squid | hello! |
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| 14:38.22 | kNC | hey all - any word on if squeeze will be updated to a new codename sooner then later? i dont want to install it then find out a new one is released, cause i wouldnt know how to update it if it were true lol! |
| 14:38.59 | TBotNik | All: Was told wicd was superior to Network Manager, but now can not make it masquerade to bridge my LAN across my wlan0 connect. Additionally I do not see a way in it to set the wlan0 as the default come up first, and it seems to ignore all the standard files, so at a loss right now to know what to do. Anyone done this in wicd before? I'm total noobie on this one. |
| 14:39.28 | themill | dpkg: tell kNC about wwwr |
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| 14:40.31 | kNC | ah ok cool. well i will help if i can |
| 14:40.58 | abrotman | TBotNik: do you actually understand the terms you're using? |
| 14:41.24 | TBotNik | abrotman: I think I do |
| 14:41.31 | wols | TBotNik: #ubuntu |
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| 14:46.24 | mplabs | Hi |
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| 14:47.32 | mplabs | why echo -e "whatever\!" prints "whatever\!" instead of "whatever!"? I'm not sure if it's the correct way to print a "!" |
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| 14:50.55 | nkuttler | mplabs: #bash |
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| 14:52.24 | Bushmills | mplabs: echo 'whatever!' |
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| 14:53.33 | Bushmills | if you insist on escaping the !, don't quote it: echo whatever\! |
| 14:54.51 | mplabs | in the real code I need something like: echo -e "whatever\! a break\nand $VALUE" |
| 14:55.33 | mplabs | matias@localnode:~$ echo whatever\! a break\nand $VALUE |
| 14:55.38 | mplabs | doesn't print the new line |
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| 14:55.52 | mplabs | neither with -e |
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| 14:58.07 | Bushmills | you can use different quotes on different parts of your string |
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| 15:00.53 | mplabs | I fixed it using printf instead of echo |
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| 15:03.45 | jason404 | what does this do?: |
| 15:03.48 | jason404 | aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot |
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| 15:06.24 | themill | jason404: feel free to guess. "apt-cache show packagename" may help. |
| 15:06.26 | jason404 | what does the fakeroot part do? |
| 15:06.31 | Bushmills | it boils your RAM soft |
| 15:07.35 | jason404 | it's the fakeroot bit which I am asking about? |
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| 15:08.17 | abrotman | read trhe package description |
| 15:08.20 | Bushmills | that part "does" nothing, "install" does |
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| 15:10.08 | jason404 | I cannot find any info on fakeroot in the description |
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| 15:10.40 | themill | jason404: did "apt-cache show fakeroot" not provide any information? |
| 15:10.46 | Mmike | Hi, lads. Anyone here using fio to test disk performance? |
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| 15:11.08 | Mmike | I'm interested in 'do I have to set size= parametar larger than my RAM to avoid caching'? |
| 15:11.40 | jason404 | themill: okay, I did not realise that it was a command. I thought it was a switch |
| 15:11.47 | Mmike | I've googled about it and there is no mention of it, and I see people is using 64M/128M or 1G as a size... but my test server has 48G of ram |
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| 15:12.31 | m8 | Do you have problem with vnc4server or tightvncserver with debian6? Thanks in advance |
| 15:12.43 | abrotman | m8: do you? |
| 15:12.50 | jason404 | themill: I accidentally executed 'fakeroot', on its own. will that have done anything? |
| 15:12.55 | m8 | yes abrotman :( |
| 15:13.08 | m8 | abrotman, when i run gnome-terminal or empathy |
| 15:13.24 | abrotman | i didn't say i did or knew anything about it |
| 15:13.38 | dunpeal | Hi. I 4 packages, foo which depends on bar, and baz which depends on qux. However, bar and qux conflict. What's a way to have both foo and baz installed? |
| 15:13.41 | m8 | abrotman, or other random software the software i'm running crash |
| 15:13.41 | m8 | :| |
| 15:13.47 | themill | jason404: that just starts a new shell that pretends to be a root shell. Just exit that shell. |
| 15:14.07 | jason404 | themill: ok, thanks |
| 15:14.17 | dunpeal | More succintly, I have two packages with conflicting dependencies, and I need to install both. |
| 15:14.51 | Bushmills | dunpeal: that's with debian stable? |
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| 15:14.54 | themill | dunpeal: irc doesn't deal with hypotheticals. Real package names would help. |
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| 15:15.24 | dunpeal | Bushmills, themill: these are packages I built myself :) |
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| 15:15.34 | themill | dunpeal: so don't make the conflict |
| 15:15.34 | dunpeal | aptitude packages for two of my projects. |
| 15:15.44 | Bushmills | dunpeal: relax the dependencies then |
| 15:15.50 | dunpeal | they don't, their dependencies do. |
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| 15:16.18 | themill | dunpeal: please start providing details.... don't make this painful. |
| 15:16.28 | dunpeal | themill: bar and qux are different, incompatible versions of the same .so file |
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| 15:17.05 | dunpeal | so foo is a legacy library, and depends on an older version of the .so. bar depends on new features in the latest .so |
| 15:17.05 | themill | dunpeal: then they conflict for a reason |
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| 15:17.21 | dunpeal | themill: correct, a reason which I can't quite fix |
| 15:17.54 | dunpeal | (the full graph there is that foo depends on a library that depends on the old .so, and bar depends on a library that depends on the new .so) |
| 15:18.23 | dunpeal | and there's no newer version for the library that foo depends on. |
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| 15:18.52 | tonytraductor | quick OT question: Does anybody know when Unix (&-based) systems first overcame the 14 char limit on filenames? |
| 15:18.57 | dunpeal | is there any solution for that? I don't think so, but I wanted to make sure. |
| 15:19.22 | cahoot | would a static package be pointless? |
| 15:19.29 | themill | dunpeal: there is not... or at least, there's no way we can work one out while you keep being vague. |
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| 15:19.49 | mike | hi all |
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| 15:20.06 | boxxertrumps | hi. |
| 15:20.15 | tonytraductor | hi |
| 15:20.31 | dunpeal | themill: I don't know how much more explicit I could be. |
| 15:20.50 | dunpeal | cahoot: what's a "static package"? |
| 15:20.54 | afterlife | anyone got any experience adding the cryptodev module? |
| 15:21.06 | themill | dunpeal: "foo" "bar" ... that's *really* explicit. |
| 15:21.17 | dunpeal | themill: these are not released packages. |
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| 15:21.27 | themill | gives up |
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| 15:22.07 | dunpeal | I would bother confusing everyone with the actual names if it mattered at all, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. |
| 15:22.16 | boxxertrumps | dunpeal: what are you trying to accomplish by al of this? |
| 15:22.33 | boxxertrumps | don' |
| 15:22.41 | boxxertrumps | t tell us what you are trying to do |
| 15:22.47 | dunpeal | boxxertrumps: I'm building aptitude packages to be installed by sysadmins |
| 15:22.51 | kanneblei | hi, I've been trying to chroot from lenny to a lucid and am getting the "kernel too old" error. Can anyone point me in the direction to solve this issue. I know it's probably relative to glibc and the kernel version, just not sure where to go from there. |
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| 15:23.57 | boxxertrumps | dunpeal: why odn't you provide the .so with bar? |
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| 15:24.04 | themill | kanneblei: you need to update the kernel that your host system is running. There's a backported kernel package for lenny around (/msg dpkg bpo) or alternatively, you could upgrade from lenny to squeeze (/msg dpkg lenny->squeeze) |
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| 15:24.36 | dunpeal | boxxertrumps: it's not my choice, the way it works right now is that bar itself is a package which I did not create. |
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| 15:25.23 | dunpeal | I guess the only solution is to repackage bar such that it doesn't have a conflict with qux. |
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| 15:25.34 | kanneblei | themill: my main problem is that it's an important server and it's bad to stop it. Is there anyway to update the lucid chroot instead? |
| 15:25.39 | dunpeal | possibly by loading the .so from a relative location in runtime. |
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| 15:26.00 | boxxertrumps | dunpeal: yeah |
| 15:26.00 | dunpeal | boxxertrumps: I was kind of curious how Debian solves this problem in general? |
| 15:26.20 | boxxertrumps | dunpeal: people make their packages not conflict with eachother |
| 15:26.34 | dunpeal | i.e. I've been using Debian for a while and never encountered this situation with supported packages in the official repos |
| 15:26.44 | boxxertrumps | as in, lagacy libs are in different packages than the latest |
| 15:26.44 | mrtnt1 | Is it possible to check, which files a package includes while this package is still in the repository? Usually I check package information using "apt-cache show packagename", but this doesn't include the files inside the package. |
| 15:26.48 | boxxertrumps | so you can have multiply |
| 15:26.53 | boxxertrumps | multiple |
| 15:26.59 | dunpeal | boxxertrumps: ok, so it's the responsibility of the developers and the package maintainers? |
| 15:27.07 | boxxertrumps | YA THINK |
| 15:27.24 | kanneblei | themill: thanks for the backports site, btw. |
| 15:27.36 | dunpeal | and you help them by packaging potential conflicts in different paths such that they won't conflict |
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| 15:28.05 | boxxertrumps | dunpeal: definitly, if people don't maintain their packages they fall out of stable, with good reason |
| 15:28.18 | themill | kanneblei: I doubt it, but I don't know what the actual requirements of lucid are; #ubuntu would know. (such chroots on a Very Important Server⢠seems slightly odd too, btw) |
| 15:28.50 | boxxertrumps | dunpeal: you dont name libfire V1 and libfire V2 both libfire.so |
| 15:29.03 | themill | kanneblei: you only have ~6 months of security support for lenny left anyway, so I presume that you have been planning your upgrade to squeeze already. Perhaps now is the time? |
| 15:29.04 | boxxertrumps | you name them libfire.1.so libfire.2.so |
| 15:29.05 | afterlife | probably a dumb question but if anyone can help me, I've built a module wget/untar/make/make install but i cant modprobe it. do I have to copy it somewhere? |
| 15:29.33 | kanneblei | themill: it is an awkward situation, but we needed x86 machines, and that's the only one available for now ;) |
| 15:30.01 | dunpeal | boxxertrumps: aha. I was wondering if there's some virtualization solution available, but I guess there isn't |
| 15:30.04 | th0r | afterlife: depmod -a |
| 15:30.11 | boxxertrumps | that way they can both be in /usr/lib, dunpeal, and programs can link the one they want |
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| 15:30.24 | dunpeal | the only "virtualization" solution that could help here is a hammer like chrott |
| 15:30.27 | dunpeal | *chroot |
| 15:30.39 | kanneblei | themill: makes sense enough. Thanks for all the help. :) |
| 15:30.40 | boxxertrumps | yeah i suppose |
| 15:30.47 | afterlife | @th0r: legend. thanks!! |
| 15:30.56 | afterlife | TIL |
| 15:31.36 | boxxertrumps | dunpeal: what packages are these, btw? and are they maintained currently? |
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| 15:32.23 | dunpeal | boxxertrumps: not exactly, they are old vendor-type thingies |
| 15:32.40 | dunpeal | i.e. they were supposed to be maintained by a vendor, except they're not. |
| 15:32.48 | dunpeal | specifically, bar is. |
| 15:32.52 | dunpeal | broken, that is. |
| 15:35.45 | dunpeal | OK, thanks, everyone. |
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| 15:39.30 | boxxertrumps | i can't beleive he asked if package maintainers were the ones that were supposed to maintain packages |
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| 15:39.46 | afterlife | heh |
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| 15:43.56 | nailora | how do i specify in debian/control that my package needs either of two alternatives installed? |
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| 15:47.51 | Woet | why does debian by default start apache/nginx before networking? |
| 15:47.58 | Woet | that causes them to fail because the IPs they bind upon are not there yet |
| 15:48.02 | themill | nailora: foo | bar; see policy §7.1 |
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| 15:48.07 | Woet | and how to correct it? |
| 15:48.35 | nailora | Woet: thanks |
| 15:48.54 | Woet | passes the thanks on to themill |
| 15:49.24 | themill | Woet: what makes you say that they are started in that order? |
| 15:49.40 | Woet | themill: /etc/rc0.d - K01apache2, K01nginx, K07networking |
| 15:49.59 | themill | K |
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| 15:52.17 | Woet | themill: or is that correct? |
| 15:52.41 | themill | Woet: K is for shutting down, S for starting. Looks fine to me. |
| 15:52.42 | Woet | themill: in my console i see "startpar: service(s) returned failure: apache nginx ... failed!" - but nothing in syslog or messages |
| 15:53.29 | Woet | themill: okay, I see their S99 in rc2 - which is after the rc0 of networking S |
| 15:53.41 | Woet | themill: but they won't start, and i don't see anything anywhere besides the console |
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| 15:55.47 | jason404 | themill: when I downloaded the source for the package, to modify it, I got the program.x.x, program.x.x.tar.bz2 and program.x.x.orig.tar.gz. Do I ignore the .tar files and modify the files in the directory? Can I delete them? |
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| 15:57.04 | jason404 | oops, program.x.xdebain.tar.bz2 I meant to say |
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| 15:58.12 | jason404 | I am guessing I shoudl delete the .tar files, modify the files in the directory, and then .tar them before I can install it? |
| 15:58.17 | zastaph | what's the difference between /usr/local and ~/local ? |
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| 15:58.46 | Amnesia | hi |
| 15:58.56 | Amnesia | does anyone over here know anything about aufs/isohybrid? |
| 15:59.22 | nailora | zastaph: first is for all users whereas second is in your home dir and is for your user only |
| 15:59.30 | jason404 | zastaph: I don't have a ~/local |
| 15:59.57 | themill | jason404: apt-get source will have unpacked the source package for you; edit the unpacked files keeping the .orig.tar.gz around too. |
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| 16:00.20 | zastaph | nailora, got it, thanks |
| 16:00.34 | jason404 | themill: thanks. but what do I need the .orig.tar.gz for, and what is it? |
| 16:00.36 | Woet | themill: any idea why it wont start or how i can debug it? |
| 16:00.49 | nailora | furthermore there is a .local dir in your homw |
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| 16:01.41 | themill | Woet: most things keep good logs when they complain. |
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| 16:02.10 | themill | jason404: that's the actual source that the upstream developers released; you need it to separate out your changes from their code |
| 16:02.24 | jason404 | ic |
| 16:03.11 | jason404 | themill: and after I make my changes to the unpacked files I would need to .tar them into a .debian.tar.bz2 file? |
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| 16:05.02 | themill | jason404: the package building process will do that for you |
| 16:05.08 | themill | (just a dpkg said) |
| 16:05.16 | jason404 | ok thanks |
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| 16:07.08 | Amnesia | anyone known with aufs? |
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| 16:07.40 | doublehp_ | i have been said once that soft-raid version 1 and > had some disadvantages over 0.9; any one can remind me what they are ? |
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| 16:11.26 | niidst | hello! i want install proftpd 1.3.3c on my debian! i know that it's vunerable.. but i'm creating a (in)security lab... |
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| 16:11.39 | niidst | any ideas? |
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| 16:12.54 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: Any ideas? |
| 16:12.55 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of rutabagas, a little thermal paste, and 5 or 6 rabid kittens. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 16:13.18 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions proftpd |
| 16:13.20 | judd | Package proftpd on i386 -- lenny: 1.3.1-17lenny4; lenny-proposed-updates: 1.3.1-17lenny6; lenny-security: 1.3.1-17lenny6 |
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| 16:13.48 | Amnesia | has anyone over here ever made a livecd? |
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| 16:14.03 | jhutchins_lt | !tell niidst about uupdate |
| 16:14.40 | zastaph | what's the prefered packages for installing vim? |
| 16:14.56 | Amnesia | zastaph: compile it? |
| 16:15.13 | zastaph | Amnesia, why not apt-get ? |
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| 16:15.26 | Amnesia | optimalization? |
| 16:16.04 | zastaph | i prefer apt-get |
| 16:16.10 | jhutchins_lt | zastaph: vim minimal/tiny (I think) should be installed by default. |
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| 16:16.23 | jhutchins_lt | zastaph: Which vim do you want? |
| 16:17.06 | zastaph | jhut, it's first time trying out vim. but I see there's a gtk and gnome version too. probably would like both the shell and gui version |
| 16:17.12 | zastaph | but which is better, gtk or gnome? |
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| 16:17.49 | kNC | ok so im install debian. how can i get the system to add the cd packages, without having to mount every cd at a time when it askks for a package. through source list right? |
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| 16:18.17 | zastaph | probably gnome right? since debian runs on it |
| 16:18.34 | skilz | hey anyone know how to get a scanner working? |
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| 16:19.58 | kNC | zastaph; i would say |
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| 16:20.04 | skilz | canon color scanner |
| 16:20.18 | systemclient | how can I change the order of the entries in grub on sid? |
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| 16:20.52 | zastaph | according to aptitude search vim vim-tiny and vim-common is installed (what's v and p mean?) |
| 16:21.58 | systemclient | zastaph: v might be for virtual |
| 16:22.29 | jason404 | In the source file, I have a perl script called version.pl. I think I need to execute it. How? |
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| 16:22.55 | systemclient | jason404: give it exec permissions with chmod +x version.pl, then do ./version.pl |
| 16:23.01 | systemclient | jason404: or just "perl version.pl" |
| 16:23.10 | jason404 | systemclient: thanks |
| 16:23.17 | systemclient | jason404: since it has a suffix, the latter might be the more standard approach |
| 16:23.27 | jason404 | ok |
| 16:23.40 | tensorpudding | jason404: scripts which begin with a hashbang, when executed, will load the file in the program listed in the hashbang |
| 16:24.01 | tensorpudding | jason404: a perl script would probably have a hashbang like #!/usr/bin/env perl |
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| 16:24.13 | systemclient | jason404: right, if there is no "#!/usr/bin/env perl" at top, ./version.pl will not worl |
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| 16:24.19 | systemclient | perl version.pl will always work |
| 16:24.23 | jason404 | tensorpudding: yeh, it does, thanks |
| 16:24.28 | tensorpudding | jason404: but debian has perl installed already, and tht will work |
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| 16:26.11 | jhutchins_lt | zastaph: Sorry, didn't see your reply. I do not like any of the GUI integrations, a GUI is really a detriment to how I use vi. I use vim-nox myself, it has the most features without departing from console/text. |
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| 16:26.41 | jhutchins_lt | Amnesia: v means it's a virtual package that caused something else to be installed. |
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| 16:27.03 | Amnesia | jhutchins_lt: eh wrong person I guess:P? |
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| 16:27.18 | jhutchins_lt | Amnesia: Yes, not sure how that happened. |
| 16:27.21 | systemclient | if I have kernels I do not use, do I just have to remove them from the /boot dir? |
| 16:27.23 | Amnesia | ^^ |
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| 16:28.18 | bamccaig | I have a text-only install of Debian running in a VMware Workstation VM ... |
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| 16:28.56 | themill | !congratulations bamccaig |
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| 16:29.03 | jhutchins_lt | zastaph: Look at the key at the top of the dpkg output for the meaning of the letters. |
| 16:29.12 | Amnesia | hm |
| 16:29.16 | bamccaig | When it's inactive for a while (i.e., I leave for lunch) the VM screen (full-screened on a dual monitor) goes black and doesn't seem to show up again until I focus the 'window' and type something. |
| 16:29.25 | Amnesia | does anyone know how to get a squashfs loaded into your memory? |
| 16:29.29 | jhutchins_lt | systemclient: You should uninstall them like any other package. |
| 16:29.32 | systemclient | bamccaig: =screensaver |
| 16:29.35 | bamccaig | I suspect it is some kind of screen saver mechanism, but I don't know if it's the host OS, the VM software, or Debian doing it. |
| 16:29.53 | systemclient | jhutchins_lt: och, I think I fooled around with windows too much in the last month ⦠|
| 16:30.11 | jhutchins_lt | bamccaig: Most Linux systems include a console screen blanker. |
| 16:30.19 | themill | !blanking |
| 16:30.19 | dpkg | screen blanking is, like, you can control screen blanking in console via setterm -blank (and/or your BIOS powersave settings), and in X via "xset -dpms", xscreensaver, or your desktop environment's screensaver controls. If the console-tools package is installed, permanent console blanking adjustments can be made by editing /etc/console-tools/config. |
| 16:30.44 | bamccaig | Thanks. :) |
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| 16:32.14 | skilz | I need help setting up my Canon Canoscan N670U scanner, I run xsane and it says no scanners found...? |
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| 16:33.16 | jason404 | is it okay for me to make the version number something like 1.2.3J, so that it does not conincide with any official futire updates? |
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| 16:33.25 | jason404 | I added a J at the end |
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| 16:33.41 | jason404 | coincide |
| 16:33.43 | judgen | What would you say would be the easiest way to install debian via USB? |
| 16:34.03 | bamccaig | Will work to add 'setterm -blank 0 -powersave off' to /etc/profile? |
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| 16:34.18 | bamccaig | +it |
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| 16:34.48 | babilen | judgen: Create bootable USB stick, boot from it and install I would say. |
| 16:34.55 | babilen | !tell judgen -about usb install |
| 16:34.56 | themill | jason404: did you "/msg dpkg debian/rules"? |
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| 16:35.07 | jason404 | judgen: UNetbootin? http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 16:35.14 | jason404 | themill: yes |
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| 16:35.45 | babilen | judgen: The creation of the bootable stick basically boils down to "cat debian.iso /dev/sdX ; sync" (replace X with something sensible) |
| 16:35.51 | themill | jason404: and dpkg suggested what to append to your version string, didn't he? |
| 16:36.15 | babilen | judgen: Argh, I missed a > in there ... Should have been "cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX ; sync" |
| 16:36.17 | judgen | oh sorry i was using the inproper words. I want to install "to" an USB not "via". |
| 16:36.32 | themill | jason404: «1.2.3-2+jason1» would be better. |
| 16:36.59 | judgen | can i install from one usb install device to another? |
| 16:37.00 | skilz | hmm there appears to be no linux driver for my Canon scanner, can I use a windows or os x driver? |
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| 16:37.21 | babilen | judgen: Ah, ok. Yes that makes a difference :) -- I would say that you can just install to the USB device and install the bootloader there. I haven't done that personally though, so I can't give you a more detailed account. |
| 16:37.30 | jason404 | themill: I cannot see anything like that in debian/changelog |
| 16:37.40 | jhutchins_lt | skilz: Where did you look for the driver? |
| 16:37.45 | judgen | i tried just using the CD once (perhaps a year ago or so.) it did not boot. |
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| 16:37.53 | judgen | after the install that is |
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| 16:39.10 | themill | jason404: you need to make a new entry in the changelog, and you append "+jason1" to the version string. |
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| 16:39.29 | jason404 | themill: okay, got it |
| 16:39.32 | jason404 | thanks |
| 16:39.55 | themill | jason404: "dch --local +jason" would do that for you |
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| 16:40.19 | jason404 | I see |
| 16:41.30 | Eil | I'm looking at the wheezy packages and I see both gnome 2 and gnome 3 packages... will wheezy have both when it goes stable or just gnome 3? |
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| 16:42.02 | skilz | jhutchins_lt: Oh wow!! |
| 16:42.18 | skilz | jhutchins_lt: when I run xsane as root it works |
| 16:42.31 | skilz | so how can I enable xsane to work in user mode? |
| 16:42.55 | judgen | Also if i were to be able to install debian to a USB device that boots properly. How much wear and tear would i expect in the drive for regular usage? |
| 16:43.22 | jhutchins_lt | skilz: I had to change permissions or something... |
| 16:43.31 | jhutchins_lt | skilz: Can't find a scanner as a regular user, right? |
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| 16:43.39 | skilz | jhutchins_lt: Yep |
| 16:43.55 | skilz | jhutchins_lt: How do I fix that? |
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| 16:44.09 | jhutchins_lt | skilz: iirc I actually changed the sane template to look for the device that is user accessible. |
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| 16:44.35 | jhutchins_lt | skilz: Should have taken better notes, sorry. I filed a bugreport. |
| 16:45.02 | jhutchins_lt | skilz: Let me see if I can find that... 2.6.32 kernel, right? |
| 16:45.53 | skilz | jhutchins_lt: I found something about it on a slackware forum, simply copy libsane.rules (from source CD, no.5 or 6) to /etc/udev/rules.d to auto-chown dan works with user priviledge.... <--- Not sure if that helps??? |
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| 16:46.20 | jhutchins_lt | sounds good to me. |
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| 16:47.09 | uosiu | hi all |
| 16:47.25 | uosiu | I'm trying internal corpo package with config files for MPD |
| 16:48.00 | skilz | jhutchins_lt: yep 2.6.32 |
| 16:48.01 | uosiu | ccig-mpd-config |
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| 16:48.21 | abrotman | uosiu: is that supposed to be a question ? |
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| 16:48.30 | uosiu | abrotman: it will be a question |
| 16:48.38 | skilz | Hmm my time is wrong, how I update it? |
| 16:48.50 | jhutchins_lt | skilz: man date |
| 16:48.53 | jhutchins_lt | !ntp |
| 16:48.54 | dpkg | The Network Time Protocol (NTP) is used to synchronize the clocks of computer systems over a network. "aptitude install ntp" for basic usage, use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. http://wiki.debian.org/NTP http://www.ntp.org/ See also <set time>, <pool.ntp>. |
| 16:49.34 | skilz | thanks, took the bios battory out |
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| 16:50.00 | uosiu | this package contains /etc/mpd.conf, which of course, is in collision with mpd package config file. How to declare in package specs to force overwrite of that file? |
| 16:50.03 | adam__ | Hi all. Does anyone have a suggestion for an PCI-E interface sata controllre for a low cost NAS rig? |
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| 16:53.08 | uosiu | How to declare in my custompkg.deb to force overwrite a file from other package? |
| 16:53.11 | abrotman | uosiu: this is covered in the packaging manual i blieve .. dpkg-divert possibly ? |
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| 16:54.06 | kNC | ok so i made a [small] mistake. i selected the graphical environment, how can i exit that and go to the command line only, and then if i want to, bring the command like back up |
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| 16:56.20 | kNC | anyonme out there :D |
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| 16:57.14 | ectospasm | kNC: disable the display manager (gdm,kdm,xdm, slim, etc...) |
| 16:58.05 | kNC | Which is what? |
| 16:58.06 | kNC | :{ |
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| 17:04.10 | Bushmills | kNC: ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 17:04.17 | kNC | thanks Bushmills |
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| 17:05.09 | Llywelyn | Hi ! I'd like to know if there is some way to use a SiS 6326 graphic card on Debian |
| 17:05.33 | valdyn | Llywelyn: anything that supports vesa can be used |
| 17:05.38 | Llywelyn | I get a black screen |
| 17:05.50 | Llywelyn | valdyn : well does this card support VESA ? |
| 17:05.57 | Keizer | I love the black screen with white text |
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| 17:06.02 | valdyn | Llywelyn: i dont know a card that does not |
| 17:06.26 | valdyn | Llywelyn: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:06.34 | Llywelyn | valdyn: well, it's a 1996 card |
| 17:06.47 | valdyn | Llywelyn: vesa is much older |
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| 17:07.23 | Bushmills | is that video controller somehow related to SiS 630 chipset? |
| 17:07.28 | valdyn | Llywelyn: black screen can be your monitor not supporting the current mode or X without anything running |
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| 17:07.44 | Llywelyn | valdyn: i currently don't have access to the computer running debian :( but i had installed LXDE, does it support vesa ? |
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| 17:07.58 | kNC | WPASupplicant is the newest version, but I dont see it. Where is it in debian? I cant connect to a wireless network.. |
| 17:07.59 | kNC | :( |
| 17:08.01 | valdyn | Llywelyn: lxde does have nothing to do with this |
| 17:08.02 | Llywelyn | Bushmills: i don't know, never had a SiS device after that one |
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| 17:08.18 | Bushmills | on-board controller? or actually a card? |
| 17:08.19 | jhutchins_lt | Llywelyn: lxde doesn't care about the chipset, xorg handles that. |
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| 17:08.26 | Llywelyn | valdyn: it's not a black screen actually, my mistake. It looks like a tv without connection |
| 17:08.28 | valdyn | Llywelyn: this is pointless if you cant read the log |
| 17:09.02 | Llywelyn | valdyn: with more contrast: more colours and a lot of black |
| 17:09.02 | jhutchins_lt | Llywelyn: also pointless if you can't change things and report the results to us. |
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| 17:09.17 | valdyn | Llywelyn: like snow? |
| 17:09.17 | Llywelyn | Bushmills: i believe it's a real card |
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| 17:09.45 | v0rtek | were can i dins i install image taht has bradcom drivers |
| 17:10.16 | Llywelyn | valdyn: if I remember well, there were large parts of the screen in dark, the rest was like snow, yes |
| 17:10.28 | v0rtek | err where caan i find imafe that has broadcome drivers? |
| 17:10.43 | Bushmills | i had a bare bones once with a sis 630 chipset, and the same problem. enabling bios-irq in linux kernel parameter at boot time solved that |
| 17:11.01 | Llywelyn | Bushmills: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SiS_6326 this might help you to know whether it's onboard or not. I believe it's a card though |
| 17:11.13 | jhutchins_lt | Llywelyn: Looks like it should use the sis driver, but there may be problems. |
| 17:11.16 | Llywelyn | Bushmills: how would you do that ? |
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| 17:11.55 | Llywelyn | jhutchins_lt: there is no sis driver for linux I believe. I found on the internet that a guy named "Thomas Winninschhofer" develops drivers for that card, but i don't think they are integrated in the kernel |
| 17:12.07 | Bushmills | at that time, not using initrd or grub, i added the appropriate kernel parameter to lilo config file, behind kernel options |
| 17:12.45 | Llywelyn | Bushmills: i don't know which bootloader i have. I installed Debian 6.0 with a netinstall |
| 17:13.13 | jhutchins_lt | Llywelyn: No, that's totally wrong, the sis driver has been around forever. |
| 17:13.16 | Bushmills | it's rather unlikely that lilo is installed |
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| 17:13.53 | Llywelyn | jhutchins_lt: according to its wikipage, "There is little support to Linux except the drivers developed independently by Thomas Winischhofer[3]. Since the driver does not support OpenGL, not even the Windows one provided by SiS, this driver is only for 2D acceleration." |
| 17:13.55 | uosiu | Hi again |
| 17:14.04 | kNC | Anyone know where i can get drivers for an Intel Corp PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network wireless card (its integarded) |
| 17:14.07 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions xserver-xorg-video-sis |
| 17:14.09 | Llywelyn | jhutchins_lt: but I believe you. So the card is not supported by SiS drivers ? |
| 17:14.09 | judd | Package xserver-xorg-video-sis on i386 -- lenny: 1:0.10.0-1; squeeze: 1:0.10.3-1; sid: 1:0.10.3-3+b1; wheezy: 1:0.10.3-3+b1 |
| 17:14.12 | uosiu | http://wklej.org/id/572632/ this is my problem with package with file colission. divertion is activated |
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| 17:14.29 | valdyn | kNC: you already have that driver, but you need to install the firmware |
| 17:14.31 | valdyn | !ipw |
| 17:14.34 | valdyn | !ipwfw |
| 17:14.59 | kNC | Huh> |
| 17:15.02 | valdyn | kNC: firmware-ipw2x00 - Binary firmware for Intel Pro Wireless 2100, 2200 and 2915 |
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| 17:15.44 | kNC | it says it is referred to by another package? |
| 17:16.00 | valdyn | kNC: its in non-free |
| 17:16.20 | kNC | you lost me sorry ? |
| 17:16.21 | jhutchins_lt | Llywelyn: The card is supported. There may be some features that are not automatically supported. If you can reach this channel when you have access to the system we may be able to fix the problem. |
| 17:16.38 | valdyn | uosiu: what do you expect when installing 2 differently name packages that contain mpd? |
| 17:16.41 | jhutchins_lt | Llywelyn: The problem is with your specific system and configuration, not with linux support for the SiS card. |
| 17:16.54 | valdyn | uosiu: mpd config rather, i guess |
| 17:17.16 | uosiu | valdyn: yes, mpd config |
| 17:17.26 | Llywelyn | jhutchins_lt: Thank you for the information ! So I can hope to have a working system running Debian... |
| 17:17.31 | uosiu | i want to declare in ccig-mpd-config to overwrite default config |
| 17:17.34 | jhutchins_lt | Llywelyn: Yes. |
| 17:17.41 | valdyn | uosiu: man dpkg-divert |
| 17:17.59 | uosiu | valdyn: grep divert -iR ./ |
| 17:18.21 | uosiu | valdyn: ./ccig-mpd-config/DEBIAN/preinst:dpkg-divert --add --rename --divert /etc/mpd.conf.orig /etc/mpd |
| 17:18.24 | uosiu | ./ccig-mpd-config/DEBIAN/postrm:dpkg-divert --remove --rename \ |
| 17:18.27 | uosiu | ./ccig-mpd-config/DEBIAN/postrm: --divert /etc/mpd.conf.orig /etc/mpd.conf |
| 17:18.46 | Llywelyn | jhutchins_lt: also, do you believe that Pentium II (running stock 233Mhz but I have oced it to 300Mhz) is enough to run 6.0 ? |
| 17:19.01 | kNC | So what is this nonfree |
| 17:19.02 | kNC | ? |
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| 17:19.15 | valdyn | uosiu: looks to me like youre diverting the orig, not the .conf, but i dont quite remember |
| 17:19.33 | uosiu | ok |
| 17:19.41 | jhutchins_lt | Llywelyn: It'll be slow, and you'll want to use a simple desktop with extra features disabled. xfce |
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| 17:19.55 | jhutchins_lt | Llywelyn: How much ram? |
| 17:20.31 | jhutchins_lt | !nonfree |
| 17:20.32 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>, or are encumbered by patents or other legal issues. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system run "aptitude search '~i~snon-free'". For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 17:20.33 | valdyn | uosiu: nah, nevermind |
| 17:21.02 | kNC | !non-free sources |
| 17:21.02 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then aptitude update. But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
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| 17:22.38 | kNC | i dont have any mirror lines |
| 17:22.43 | kNC | they're all cd's. |
| 17:22.47 | kNC | 8 cds i downloaded |
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| 17:23.34 | valdyn | kNC: what a waste of disks |
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| 17:24.41 | babilen | (and bandwidth) |
| 17:24.42 | kNC | valdyn; now you decide to answer? cool. |
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| 17:25.10 | kNC | its ok babilen |
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| 17:26.08 | kNC | well off to work i go. see ya. |
| 17:26.21 | valdyn | kNC: i dont like answering questions where the literal google search will give a better response than I ever could ;) |
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| 17:27.38 | kNC | valdyn; well, in all honesty thanks for your help this far, but smart-ass comments are not needed and now making me look down on you in such a way it is unspeakable |
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| 17:31.50 | _DarkFader | I can still build packages for sparc32 with dpkg-dev, right? |
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| 17:36.41 | jason404 | one thing which I thought I would have figured out by now, but I haven't: |
| 17:36.59 | jason404 | what is the difference between the ~ and # locations? |
| 17:37.14 | Bushmills | # isn't a location |
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| 17:37.38 | jason404 | Bushmills: so is it just an alias for ~ ? |
| 17:37.45 | Bushmills | # is a warning |
| 17:38.02 | jason404 | why does cd # go to home then? |
| 17:38.15 | Bushmills | because cd does too |
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| 17:38.42 | Bushmills | and i thought of # and ~ in your prompt |
| 17:38.51 | jason404 | ah, I see |
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| 17:39.10 | jason404 | cheers |
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| 17:40.01 | skilz | How do I disable my pc speaker? |
| 17:40.14 | skilz | its driving me nuts |
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| 17:40.52 | skilz | it's 3.40am here and it beeps each time I backspace too face ect and everyone in the house sleeping can hear it :/ |
| 17:41.01 | Bushmills | mixer |
| 17:41.18 | _DarkFader | disable pcspkr module? |
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| 17:41.37 | BrixSat | hello i have a debian system fresh install up to date and when i try to see on the network manager applet the wifi networks i get to see a message saying "device not managed" |
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| 17:48.16 | jhutchins_lt | BrixSat: Network Manager will not manage a device configured in /etc/interfaces. |
| 17:49.08 | skilz | how do I disable pcspkr module?? |
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| 17:49.27 | v0rtek | LSMOD |
| 17:49.29 | v0rtek | RMMOD |
| 17:49.42 | v0rtek | opps small letters |
| 17:50.10 | _DarkFader | yeah, I saw something like that when I googled it too |
| 17:50.11 | skilz | so lsmod or rmmod? |
| 17:50.14 | v0rtek | that removes the mode froom memory |
| 17:52.13 | skilz | O.K, now how do I make that perminant? |
| 17:52.23 | skilz | so I doesnt come back when I reboot? |
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| 17:53.55 | zorrolero | !tell skilz about blacklist |
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| 18:13.30 | brunoramos | Anyone else getting this warning message with apt-get update? "W: Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_i18n_Index Encountered a section with no Package: header" |
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| 18:14.58 | _DarkFader | I'm getting E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room :P |
| 18:15.54 | sixyearsofdreams | heya, my "mail" command wont execute anymore :/ |
| 18:16.53 | sixyearsofdreams | brunoramos: no error |
| 18:17.05 | valdyn | !dynamic mmap |
| 18:17.05 | dpkg | Getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get or aptitude? Put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: APT::Cache-Limit "12582912"; If that file doesn't exist, create it, or put the line in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ If you still get the same error, increase the value. Alternatively, delete entries within /etc/apt/sources.list that you don't actually need. |
| 18:17.10 | valdyn | _DarkFader: ^^ |
| 18:17.36 | _DarkFader | tnx |
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| 18:19.46 | _DarkFader | hmm.. "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6.infrant1 is to be installed" |
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| 18:20.09 | _DarkFader | can I update packages without updating the whole system? |
| 18:20.28 | _DarkFader | I want to update python on my ReadyNAS :) |
| 18:20.38 | iceroot | _DarkFader: sudo apt-get install python |
| 18:20.47 | daemonkeeper | 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6.infrant1?? |
| 18:20.49 | daemonkeeper | wtf? |
| 18:21.03 | sixyearsofdreams | nobody can help me rebuild mail command ? |
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| 18:23.01 | _DarkFader | it'd be nice if multiple lib versions could be installed together |
| 18:23.34 | daemonkeeper | Your problem seems more complicated than that. |
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| 18:25.24 | tharkun | Gentlemen how do i mount a mac formated hdd on a linux machine? |
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| 18:26.16 | daemonkeeper | HFS+ support is in the kernel (read-only) |
| 18:26.38 | daemonkeeper | Write access is experimental and - I think - disabled in the Debian kernel. |
| 18:27.43 | tuvwx | right when mercurial 1.9 completed 10 days in unstable, the maintainer uploaded 1.9.1. testing is still stuck with 1.8.3 :( |
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| 18:39.54 | brunoramos | I'm trying to run nvidia-bug-report.sh but it says I should start the X server with "startx -- -logverbose 6" where can I change that? I'm using gdm and xfce... |
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| 18:41.20 | chrissbx | Is there a tool to close all unused device mapper devices? |
| 18:41.54 | chrissbx | I'm getting tired to close all these layers manually after being done with the last layer. |
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| 18:42.52 | chrissbx | Also, this tool should work recursively, or know about dependencies. i.e. close higher layers first then the next layers too. |
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| 18:43.31 | wols | brunoramos: close gdm and xfce and start it |
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| 18:45.03 | brunoramos | wols: call that from the command line directly you say? |
| 18:45.29 | wols | yes |
| 18:46.20 | brunoramos | Ok, I'll try it, thank you. |
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| 18:58.02 | sixyearsofdreams | can anyone help me rebuild my mail command |
| 18:58.31 | wols | sixyearsofdreams: ask sensible questions |
| 18:59.27 | sixyearsofdreams | when i was configuring sendmail, i ended up removing it for the first time and purging it aswell, after that the mail command wont execute |
| 18:59.40 | sixyearsofdreams | wols: when you first login it would show you if you have mail or not |
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| 19:00.48 | sixyearsofdreams | wols: i guess it isnt much important, squierrel mail is working with sendmail now, but just curious why its gone |
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| 19:03.35 | SurlyFrog | Anyone got an opinion on the best server configuration management tools for Debian (Puppet, Chef, Bcfg2, CFEngine, etc.)?? |
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| 19:10.20 | cire | What is the standard way of sharing my address book (kmail at home, thunderbird at work)? I'd prefer storing it inside my imap mail account. Or is there another way? I have a server which could run an additional application. |
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| 19:14.09 | jhutchins_lt | cire: I don't think there's a standard. A lot of email programs can use an ldap server, but there's no standard there either, just some incomplete templates. |
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| 19:14.44 | jhutchins_lt | cire: If you have a knack for ldap and can turn a rough template into a full, workable schema, you could run a directory server, but that's the only method I know of. |
| 19:14.57 | jhutchins_lt | SurlyFrog: vi |
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| 19:16.32 | cire | jhutchins_lt: thanks, that's what I suspected... Setting up an ldap server would be too much, I will have a look if there's something easier... |
| 19:16.50 | jhutchins_lt | cire: Let me know what you find. |
| 19:16.57 | cire | okay |
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| 19:21.18 | cire | jhutchins_lt: I tzhink I will try syncing both, kmail & thunderbird with google contacts. I know this is not the best solution, giving google all my contacts, but I will give it a try. |
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| 19:30.36 | jhutchins_lt | cire: All your contacts are belong to us. |
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| 19:34.24 | Delf1 | rsyslogd is eating cpu. Whats going on? |
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| 19:35.02 | valdyn | Delf1: something spamming logs? |
| 19:35.19 | Delf1 | valdyn: How do I see what it would be? |
| 19:35.41 | valdyn | Delf1: /var/log/messages probably |
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| 19:36.35 | Guest4124 | hello all |
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| 19:41.56 | kingsley | What's debian's preferred virtualization platform? xen? kvm? |
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| 19:42.47 | dondelelcaro | kingsley: if you can use kvm, you probably want to. If you can't, xen works. |
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| 19:44.09 | Delf1 | valdyn: There's lots of code but I don't see a name of a process. |
| 19:44.41 | valdyn | Delf1: how come you cant see? its right after the hostname |
| 19:44.55 | valdyn | Delf1: or show us a few lines |
| 19:45.08 | Delf1 | I'll show you few lines |
| 19:45.33 | Delf1 | I'm trying to open the file with nano, it's still loding, blank. |
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| 19:45.34 | valdyn | Delf1: if its actually "kernel" instead of the process name, let us know |
| 19:45.43 | valdyn | Delf1: tail -f /var/log/messages.3.gz |
| 19:45.44 | Delf1 | valdyn: It's kernel |
| 19:45.45 | valdyn | Delf1: tail -f /var/log/messages |
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| 19:45.55 | valdyn | Delf1: ok, show us what it is |
| 19:46.15 | valdyn | Delf1: on a paste site, not here... |
| 19:46.18 | Delf1 | its not letting me to do tail -f /var/log/messages |
| 19:46.27 | Delf1 | it loads.. blank |
| 19:46.40 | Delf1 | the computer is overloaded i'm guessing |
| 19:46.40 | jhutchins_lt | Sounds like there may be a disk problem. |
| 19:46.46 | jhutchins_lt | Delf1: df? |
| 19:46.49 | Delf1 | df? |
| 19:46.59 | valdyn | more like disk errors, not disk full |
| 19:47.00 | Delf1 | Disk Failure? |
| 19:47.07 | jhutchins_lt | Delf1: See if your disk is full, but more likely errors. |
| 19:47.09 | jhutchins_lt | Delf1: Yes. |
| 19:47.19 | Delf1 | None of my disks are full |
| 19:47.21 | valdyn | Delf1: cant say nothing useful without seeing the messages |
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| 19:47.37 | Delf1 | brb, I'll try to jump in here from the server |
| 19:47.48 | valdyn | Delf1: btw, use "dmesg" instead |
| 19:48.00 | valdyn | Delf1: since its kernel messages its also contained in dmesg |
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| 19:49.17 | Delf | Ok, lets see. |
| 19:49.27 | Guest4124 | hi all |
| 19:49.32 | Guest4124 | please help me |
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| 19:49.43 | valdyn | !tell Guest4124 -about ask |
| 19:49.52 | Mack | My computer has a built-in modem. Is there a way to check if it's a winmodem from Debian? |
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| 19:50.19 | valdyn | Mack: its a winmodem if you dont see the /dev/ttySx that belongs to it |
| 19:50.42 | p0g0 | Mack: also viz: http://linmodems.org/ |
| 19:50.56 | Mack | valdyn: But I don't know which ttySx it belongs to |
| 19:51.06 | Mack | I just know that from /dev/ttyS0 to ttyS3 exist |
| 19:51.10 | valdyn | Mack: how many physical serial ports do you have? |
| 19:51.12 | Mack | But I don't know what they are |
| 19:51.13 | Mack | One |
| 19:51.16 | valdyn | Mack: 4? |
| 19:51.31 | Mack | There's only one I think |
| 19:51.37 | Mack | I'm connected through SSH now, I can check when I get home |
| 19:51.52 | valdyn | Mack: run minicom and talk to your using at commands |
| 19:52.04 | Mack | I think it has one serial port and two phone jack connections |
| 19:52.05 | valdyn | Mack: talk to the serial ports even |
| 19:52.13 | Delf | I'll grow old untill the page loads. |
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| 19:52.21 | Mack | Is there a way, without being at the computer, to see if the serial port is a modem? |
| 19:52.25 | Llywelyn | jhutchins_lt: I have 200Mb ram on it and i am ready to use one simple desktop. You say i should use xfce, isn't lxde lighter ? |
| 19:52.26 | valdyn | Mack: one modem should reply to the command "at" with "OK" |
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| 19:52.32 | Delf | XT3 kernel: [333156.147289] Inbound IN=bridge OUT= PHYSIN=vpn MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:ff:b1:71:65:8f:08:00 SRC=10.0.0.120 DST=10.255.255.255 LEN=72 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 |
| 19:52.33 | alex-- | deb: command not found |
| 19:52.39 | valdyn | Mack: i just told you |
| 19:52.40 | Delf | GXT3 Kernel: |
| 19:52.51 | valdyn | Delf1: thats enough |
| 19:52.55 | Mack | Ok |
| 19:53.04 | valdyn | Delf1: who switched your firewall logging on? |
| 19:53.09 | Delf | valdyn: I'm not pasting, I just corrected. |
| 19:53.17 | Delf | valdyn: Not me :S |
| 19:53.21 | valdyn | Delf: sorry |
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| 19:53.36 | Delf | valdyn: For what? |
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| 19:54.35 | Dexter_F | hey |
| 19:54.38 | p0g0 | Mack: the page I refferred you to has a tool called scanmodem, it should help you sort out if you have a linmodem or what. |
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| 19:55.26 | Delf | I'm going to have to reboot, brb! |
| 19:55.53 | Mack | p0g0: Ok, I'll look at that too |
| 19:56.05 | valdyn | Mack: that tools should automate what i suggested |
| 19:56.13 | valdyn | Mack: so it should be quicker anyway |
| 19:56.26 | valdyn | Mack: a winmodem is a soundcard |
| 19:56.50 | Mack | I got minicom connected to /dev/ttyS0 |
| 19:56.53 | Mack | I don't know how to send AT though |
| 19:57.00 | valdyn | Mack: just type it |
| 19:57.17 | Mack | That didn't do anything |
| 19:57.23 | p0g0 | valdyn: and when you pick up an extension on your POTs line with any modem, what do you hear? |
| 19:57.28 | valdyn | Mack: then go ahead use the next port |
| 19:57.35 | Mack | My ping to the server is 500ms right now though, so I'll try the automated method |
| 19:57.46 | Mack | It's taking forever to do anything |
| 19:57.59 | valdyn | p0g0: though i have used modems alot im not at all familiar with telephony terminology like "extension" |
| 19:58.20 | p0g0 | valdyn: a second hand set on your telephone line... |
| 19:58.33 | wols | valdyn: pick up another phone while the modem is doing its job |
| 19:58.46 | p0g0 | my point is that all modems are acoustic devices. |
| 19:58.55 | valdyn | p0g0: sure i know that |
| 19:59.15 | valdyn | p0g0: i was talking about what it looks like after you booted debian |
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| 19:59.45 | valdyn | p0g0: and if theres an alsa driver itll show in /proc/asound/cards |
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| 19:59.57 | p0g0 | Mack: re the AT command set: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_command_set or any decent modem manual. |
| 20:00.19 | p0g0 | eh, kill the "l" at the start of http... |
| 20:00.24 | v0rtek | how do i mount a cd with the drivers i need |
| 20:00.27 | Mack | I've used that on my phone's baseband |
| 20:00.32 | Mack | I've never tried it with minicom though |
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| 20:01.02 | Guest4124 | help |
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| 20:01.11 | valdyn | !tell Guest4124 -about ask |
| 20:01.16 | Llywelyn | Hi, I run Debian 6.0 on a PII 300Mhz computer, with 200Mb of RAM. Can I hope running it smoothly and fastly ? thanks ! |
| 20:01.31 | valdyn | oh damn its the same guy |
| 20:01.37 | v0rtek | how do i mount a cd with the drivers i need ? |
| 20:02.05 | valdyn | v0rtek: question makes no sense |
| 20:02.18 | valdyn | v0rtek: "how do i copy drivers to a cd" is what you mean? |
| 20:02.47 | v0rtek | i got a cd with the drivers i need but i cant get it to mount |
| 20:03.34 | valdyn | v0rtek: mount /dev/cdrom /path/to/mountpoint |
| 20:04.21 | v0rtek | can the mount point be a file? |
| 20:04.22 | valdyn | Llywelyn: for some things yes, but the regular debian tools like apt-get should be quite slow |
| 20:04.31 | valdyn | Llywelyn: since the repositories are so huge now |
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| 20:04.57 | Llywelyn | valdyn: can I fix that ? deleting some repositories for instance ? |
| 20:05.00 | Guest4124 | thanks you! |
| 20:05.14 | valdyn | Llywelyn: debian main is the biggest and you cant do without that one |
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| 20:05.44 | Llywelyn | valdyn: ok. But isn't the speed more related to the internet connection rather than the processing power ? |
| 20:05.52 | Llywelyn | valdyn: in this particular case |
| 20:06.15 | JosefAssad2 | hi. Quick stupid question. I just installed squeeze. To go to testing I just replace all instances of squeeze with wheezy in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 20:06.49 | valdyn | Llywelyn: on my phone the slow part is not downloading but extracting the package databases and the packages themselves |
| 20:07.06 | jacobw | JosefAssad2: and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade.. yeah |
| 20:07.09 | v0rtek | soory i just want to make shure i get it right |
| 20:07.12 | JosefAssad2 | jacobw: danke! |
| 20:07.15 | valdyn | Llywelyn: it runs a debian derivative and is probably faster than you p2 in all aspects |
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| 20:07.24 | Llywelyn | valdyn: you have a phone running debian ? or you're talking about cydia ? |
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| 20:07.36 | valdyn | Llywelyn: nokia n900 |
| 20:07.42 | Llywelyn | valdyn: maemo ? |
| 20:07.47 | Eval_Sanchez | strange that the sound stopped from the browser, no youtube video or any video run on the browser will work |
| 20:07.49 | valdyn | Llywelyn: yes |
| 20:07.55 | Eval_Sanchez | but I can play music locally no problem |
| 20:08.20 | Llywelyn | valdyn: well... I'll be patient then. Do you think i'll be able to play videos on YouTube for instance ? |
| 20:08.20 | valdyn | Llywelyn: its not debian, its respositories are miniscule compared to debian |
| 20:08.28 | valdyn | Llywelyn: no way |
| 20:08.42 | Eval_Sanchez | same with Chrome as Firefox |
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| 20:09.07 | valdyn | Llywelyn: webbrowser alone should be usable, but this also largely depends on the website |
| 20:09.17 | Llywelyn | valdyn: surf the internet with some flash/js enabled ? |
| 20:09.22 | zykotick9 | Eval_Sanchez, i'd guess the common element is flash. Do you have a ~/.asoundrc (or similar name?) |
| 20:09.28 | wols | Llywelyn: no flash |
| 20:09.42 | valdyn | Llywelyn: and websites are not exactly lightweight nowadys |
| 20:09.48 | Llywelyn | wols: thanks |
| 20:09.53 | Eval_Sanchez | hmmmm no I don't zykotick9 |
| 20:10.05 | Llywelyn | valdyn: yes... it's as shame ! and should I use IW or another browser ? |
| 20:10.06 | JosefAssad2 | and testing is on a 2.6.39 kernel I take it? |
| 20:10.13 | Miesco | Why would ISP's use mega bits per second when everything is measured in bytes? |
| 20:10.22 | valdyn | Llywelyn: i had something like this with 96mb and the web worked fine, but that was before y2k |
| 20:10.22 | Eval_Sanchez | but this happened I think at some point where I was launching VMWare and it said that it wanted to disconnect the sound from host |
| 20:10.26 | Eval_Sanchez | and I said yes, zykotick9 |
| 20:10.31 | wols | Llywelyn: you can download the flashmovie however and then watch it in VLC (was the best player to use on a PII 266 128MB RAM. I used lenny back then with windowmaker and firefox. it worked but it noticeably slow to browse the web. Slow because the rendering of the page took so long, not the download |
| 20:10.34 | Eval_Sanchez | but usually when it's off, it still works |
| 20:10.58 | Delf | (10:10:29 PM) Delf: I rebooted and now its ok |
| 20:10.59 | Delf | (10:10:35 PM) Delf: After 1-2 days it'll do this again |
| 20:11.04 | Llywelyn | brb |
| 20:11.18 | Delf | valdyn: Whats going on? |
| 20:11.42 | valdyn | Delf: what you pasted gave the impression you were logging every single network packet |
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| 20:11.54 | valdyn | Delf: which would be due to a firewall rule someone added |
| 20:12.05 | zykotick9 | Eval_Sanchez, sorry if it's related to VMWare I can't help ya. Best of luck. (Note: ALSA isn't the best at sharing with others, sometimes) |
| 20:12.17 | Eval_Sanchez | yea..it's an ALSA problem alright |
| 20:12.29 | Eval_Sanchez | how do i enter alsa settings? |
| 20:12.39 | Eval_Sanchez | an interface of some sort |
| 20:12.40 | valdyn | Delf: iptables --list | grep LOG |
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| 20:12.44 | Eval_Sanchez | not from the sound icon |
| 20:12.49 | zykotick9 | Eval_Sanchez, usually through the .asoundrc (or whatever it's called) |
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| 20:14.13 | JosefAssad2 | sorry another dumb question. Going from squeeze to wheezy, what do I do with the line in sources.list saying "deb http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main" ? Do I just comment that one out? I see no folder wheezy-updates on http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/dists/ ... |
| 20:14.25 | Delf | http://paste.debian.net/125219/ |
| 20:14.30 | valdyn | JosefAssad2: yes, comment it out |
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| 20:14.58 | JosefAssad2 | valdyn: ok. Thanks :) |
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| 20:15.30 | valdyn | Delf: i cant really parse that, but it does look to me like youre logging *alot* |
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| 20:15.47 | JosefAssad2 | all this for a crapster atheros wifi chipset... *sigh* |
| 20:15.53 | TiMiDo | hi |
| 20:15.59 | TiMiDo | how can i install ipv6 in debian? |
| 20:16.02 | Eval_Sanchez | there's no such thing as ~/.asoundrc or any of the stuff that the ALSA wiki mentions.. |
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| 20:16.43 | zykotick9 | Eval_Sanchez, http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc |
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| 20:16.59 | valdyn | Delf: you need to have someone look at the whole output who knows how to read this exactly |
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| 20:17.25 | valdyn | Delf: as it is you can just say that theres logging rules, not if theyre triggered and when |
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| 20:17.58 | zykotick9 | Eval_Sanchez, sorry I have the first google hit, this may be more relevant http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc |
| 20:18.00 | Obsidian1723 | I downloaded the 6.0.2.1 netinstall and ran it, but then it sat @ the part where it looked to be downloading files. How long does it take? I am on a 20up/50Mbps down connection. |
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| 20:18.30 | valdyn | Obsidian1723: not long |
| 20:19.01 | valdyn | TiMiDo: it is installed |
| 20:19.22 | wols | Obsidian1723: if you mean at the end where you select "Standard" "Desktop" and so on: depends how much you selected. but that's all optional |
| 20:19.40 | TiMiDo | i was taling about miredo ;) |
| 20:19.42 | TiMiDo | *talking |
| 20:19.48 | Obsidian1723 | gotcha. is there a one-dvd-download like other distros? |
| 20:20.06 | Obsidian1723 | like Ubuntu you can install or run live off of one dvd |
| 20:20.13 | valdyn | TiMiDo: "apt-get install miredo" ? |
| 20:20.23 | wols | Obsidian1723: there is CD1, there is DVD1, and there is netinst which is a fully funtioning debian as well |
| 20:20.30 | TiMiDo | no siht |
| 20:20.35 | TiMiDo | wow valdyn ur fucking smart |
| 20:20.38 | wols | Obsidian1723: live cd are yet another thing |
| 20:21.00 | Delf | valdyn: I'm going insane |
| 20:21.06 | valdyn | TiMiDo: my sarcasm detector is broken |
| 20:21.19 | valdyn | Delf: hmm? |
| 20:21.23 | TiMiDo | lol |
| 20:21.23 | TiMiDo | ;) |
| 20:21.26 | TiMiDo | i bet it is |
| 20:21.27 | TiMiDo | ;ah |
| 20:21.38 | Delf | valdyn: I'll do a fresh install. |
| 20:21.54 | valdyn | Delf: it seems odd that you have no idea who set up your firewall |
| 20:22.19 | wols | Delf: you aren't running windows anymore |
| 20:22.46 | Eval_Sanchez | I just stopped the alsa daemon |
| 20:22.50 | Eval_Sanchez | and i can still play music locally.. |
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| 20:22.56 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: theres no alsa daemon |
| 20:23.01 | Eval_Sanchez | sure there is |
| 20:23.03 | Eval_Sanchez | alsa-utils |
| 20:23.09 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: thats not a daemon |
| 20:23.17 | Eval_Sanchez | well i was able to stop and start it |
| 20:23.23 | Eval_Sanchez | don't know what that would be called |
| 20:23.34 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: a daemon keeps running after its started |
| 20:23.39 | Eval_Sanchez | and when stopped it says "Shutting down alsa" |
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| 20:24.03 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: yea, thats a lie |
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| 20:24.13 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: i mean, the script is lieing, not you |
| 20:24.13 | Eval_Sanchez | haha |
| 20:24.17 | Eval_Sanchez | oh |
| 20:24.34 | Eval_Sanchez | well the sound from the browser stopped working |
| 20:24.39 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: theres more init scripts that do that though, its not unusual |
| 20:24.43 | Eval_Sanchez | i can still play music locally, just can't get any sound from the browser |
| 20:24.49 | Eval_Sanchez | and that's why im trying this |
| 20:25.11 | abrotman | lying ? |
| 20:25.24 | valdyn | abrotman: probably |
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| 20:26.01 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: it stores and restores "driver settings", thats stuff like volume |
| 20:26.31 | Eval_Sanchez | any idea as to how I can get that problem fixed? |
| 20:26.46 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: your browser cant do sound, maybe you mean adobe flash |
| 20:27.03 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: or maybe you mean another audio plugin |
| 20:27.13 | ompaul | outsourced playing that is |
| 20:27.29 | valdyn | Eval_Sanchez: or actually, guess it can do sound with html5, but thats still probably not what you mean |
| 20:27.37 | Eval_Sanchez | what the.. |
| 20:27.48 | Eval_Sanchez | concentrate, man |
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| 20:28.28 | ompaul | Eval_Sanchez: seriously we don't need to, we know when we are being distracted ;-) |
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| 20:31.40 | Eval_Sanchez | gonna try something else |
| 20:31.51 | Llywelyn | valdyn: i'm back |
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| 20:32.27 | valdyn | !wb |
| 20:32.27 | dpkg | thanks, valdyn. It's good to be back. |
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| 20:32.37 | valdyn | bleh |
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| 20:33.56 | Llywelyn | valdyn: so which web browser should I use for my PII computer ? |
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| 20:34.10 | ompaul | lynx |
| 20:34.15 | zapadlo | ie6 |
| 20:34.28 | daemonkeeper | anyone. |
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| 20:34.37 | ompaul | daemonkeeper: ? |
| 20:34.41 | wols | Llywelyn: did you read what I wrote above? dillo is usable too but lacks pretty much all js support |
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| 20:34.57 | Eval_Sanchez | I rebooted ... |
| 20:35.05 | daemonkeeper | Its not about the browser, but the usage how terrible^W^W^W good it will perform on a PII |
| 20:35.05 | Eval_Sanchez | I knew it would fix it, I didn't want to resort to it..but yea |
| 20:35.08 | Llywelyn | wols: i'm sorry, I had to disconnect a few minutes because I had an internet problem |
| 20:35.29 | wols | Llywelyn: I wrote you before you disconnected. you wrote to the channel after I wrote |
| 20:35.36 | valdyn | Llywelyn: links2 -g probably, but even mindori or chrome should work. The problem is the sites, not running the browser |
| 20:35.47 | valdyn | Llywelyn: s/mindori/midori/ |
| 20:35.58 | Llywelyn | wols: oh so i'm afraid i didn't see your message then :( will i be able to use hotmail with dillo ? |
| 20:36.12 | Llywelyn | valdyn: midori has js support ? |
| 20:36.30 | wols | unlikely. as a rule, #debian inhabitants rarely know about hotmail... |
| 20:36.39 | valdyn | Llywelyn: yes |
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| 20:36.53 | ompaul | Llywelyn: in terms of horsepower that box is unlikely to run at any speed close to useable |
| 20:37.12 | Llywelyn | wols: yes, gmail is much better. love to have my mail read and analyzed |
| 20:37.30 | ompaul | by microsoft rather than google - your call |
| 20:37.31 | valdyn | ompaul: i dont know, it should be usable for some sites |
| 20:37.36 | sixyearsofdreams | so i edited my motd, i folllowed mewbies guide, would anyone look at this please, http://pastebin.com/g2Dv6Mxy |
| 20:37.59 | Llywelyn | ompaul: it runs pretty well under W2K so Linux should do even better, I hope ;) |
| 20:38.02 | valdyn | Llywelyn: slashdot open, midori using 64mb ram, i dont really know if thats good |
| 20:38.14 | valdyn | Llywelyn: but it looks like it could work for your system |
| 20:38.16 | _DarkFader | tries debootstrapping etch |
| 20:38.45 | Llywelyn | valdyn: as i have 200mb ram, i will depend on how much ram the rest of the OS uses |
| 20:39.20 | ompaul | 200 not 256 interesting |
| 20:39.30 | valdyn | probably 196 |
| 20:39.43 | Llywelyn | ompaul: I have different ram barrets |
| 20:39.55 | Llywelyn | valdyn: yes, 196 exactly |
| 20:40.08 | ompaul | I wouldn't have found that number interesting |
| 20:41.12 | Llywelyn | I think it's a 128mb barret + 64 mb so 192mb |
| 20:41.16 | Llywelyn | not sure about this |
| 20:41.26 | Llywelyn | but it's around 200mb |
| 20:42.40 | Llywelyn | so the best combo would be: xfce + midori ? |
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| 20:42.45 | valdyn | thats 196k kb ;) |
| 20:42.49 | valdyn | plus a few |
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| 20:43.17 | valdyn | Llywelyn: no, windowmaker plus midori |
| 20:43.20 | Llywelyn | valdyn: oh ok ;) |
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| 20:43.41 | Llywelyn | valdyn: windowmaker is like gnome, kde, ect... ? |
| 20:43.42 | valdyn | Llywelyn: or fluxbox |
| 20:43.48 | fa | no Llywelyn |
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| 20:43.57 | fa | windowmaker is something like black box |
| 20:43.59 | fa | gnome is gnome kde is kde |
| 20:44.05 | fa | xfce4 might look like gnome |
| 20:44.08 | valdyn | Llywelyn: not at all, its only a window manager with an appliction starter menu at the right mouse button |
| 20:44.09 | fa | but not window maker |
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| 20:44.35 | valdyn | Llywelyn: so its functionality is limited, but so is its memory footprint |
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| 20:45.27 | Llywelyn_ | sorry, had to reload the page |
| 20:46.05 | valdyn | Llywelyn: looks like you need a real irc client |
| 20:46.12 | fa | yeah |
| 20:46.13 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: i use webchat |
| 20:46.20 | fa | lol |
| 20:46.36 | ompaul | on what client? |
| 20:46.44 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: in which operating system? |
| 20:46.52 | Llywelyn_ | ompaul: it's not my client, it's my browser, SRWare Iron |
| 20:47.04 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: currently Windows 7 Starter Edition |
| 20:47.26 | fa | use irssi xcha |
| 20:47.27 | fa | t |
| 20:47.27 | fa | damn i'm lagged |
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| 20:48.10 | Llywelyn_ | Wtf ? |
| 20:48.20 | Llywelyn_ | oh ok just got it :D |
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| 20:50.24 | Llywelyn_ | fa: well i'll try Opera's IRC to start with... don't like having too much software installed on my school pc |
| 20:50.44 | fa | oh |
| 20:50.46 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: hope i didn't shock you with my OS :) |
| 20:50.53 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: no you didnt |
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| 20:51.15 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: i was about to suggest an irc client, but I guess opera is fine |
| 20:51.41 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: well I still have to install one on my desktop so please go ahead |
| 20:51.42 | esaym153 | what are some good skills to put on a resume for linux administrator? |
| 20:52.04 | Llywelyn_ | irssi looks nice |
| 20:52.17 | sixyearsofdreams | i run irssi its awesome :0 |
| 20:52.24 | sixyearsofdreams | irssi / sreen |
| 20:53.09 | Llywelyn_ | well i would have liked a graphical interface. I guess that it will be the only IRC client i'll be able to run on my P2 though |
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| 20:53.36 | fa | Llywelyn_: why are you in debian if you're using windows |
| 20:53.37 | fa | ? |
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| 20:53.48 | valdyn | fa: hes been asking about debian |
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| 20:54.10 | fa | oh |
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| 20:54.22 | Llywelyn_ | fa: didn't know that windows users were to be banned from #debian |
| 20:54.28 | valdyn | fa: and it was me who brought up the OS, but thats done |
| 20:54.29 | Nirgal | Hello. I could use help about mime types: My application handle microsoft access files. /etc/mime.types says mdb files are application/msaccess, file -i reports them as application/x-msaccess, /usr/share/mime/globs2 says application/vnd.ms-access... What I am supposed to use? Should I repport this differences or is this something "normal"? |
| 20:55.20 | Llywelyn_ | fa: anyway I use ubuntu on my primary PC and was thinking about switching to debian, so I wanted to try to install debian on my secondary pc (the P2 one) to see if i'm skilled enough to do it |
| 20:56.06 | Llywelyn_ | fa: and i obviously cannot change the OS on my school's notebook... the system i'm using right now |
| 20:56.27 | Llywelyn_ | fa: so here's why i'm on #debian even if I use windows |
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| 20:57.19 | fa | try installing |
| 20:57.20 | fa | something like virtualbox |
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| 20:59.50 | Dexter_F | there's no wheezy-backports yet, right? |
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| 21:00.35 | dondelelcaro | Dexter_F: backports are generally only for stable releasesss |
| 21:00.49 | Llywelyn_ | fa: slow and battery consuming... |
| 21:00.52 | dondelelcaro | Nirgal: for some mime types, there isn't a specific standard; many microsoft ones are an example of this |
| 21:01.20 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: should I reinstall my debian OS or is there an easy way to remove LXDE ? |
| 21:01.38 | dondelelcaro | Llywelyn_: just install whatever DE you want to use, or aptitude remove lxde; |
| 21:01.50 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: you dont need to remove it |
| 21:02.07 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: you can *add* whatever else you decided to try |
| 21:02.35 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: and I choose which DE to use in xorg.conf ? |
| 21:02.54 | dondelelcaro | Llywelyn_: no, you choose which DE to use in your DM or your .xsession or similar. |
| 21:03.11 | Llywelyn_ | dondelelcaro: thanks ! |
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| 21:05.04 | Llywelyn_ | once the DE is installed, I should install synaptic and then I can continue like in ubuntu ? i mean, full graphical mode ? |
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| 21:06.52 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: yes |
| 21:07.24 | wols | Llywelyn_: you don't want to install a DE. and you shouldn't use synaptic either |
| 21:07.49 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: very nice. but i guess that using apt-get in terminal is a wiser option, right ? |
| 21:08.05 | wols | on a machine like this, every little bit of RAM or CPU cycles more than needed is a waste you cannot afford |
| 21:08.08 | valdyn | right, i took his DE as meaning fluxbox or windowmkaer or blackbox, not something larger than lxde |
| 21:08.23 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: yes |
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| 21:08.32 | Llywelyn_ | wols: i'd like a DE... i'll try fluxbox or windowmaker |
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| 21:08.54 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: those things are just window managers, not desktop environments |
| 21:09.11 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: what's the difference ? |
| 21:09.15 | wols | Llywelyn_: neither of them are DEs |
| 21:09.25 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: i can run a window manager without a DE ? |
| 21:09.30 | wols | DE is a bundle of programs wasting a lot of precious RAM |
| 21:09.31 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: a de tries to contain everything you need regularily |
| 21:09.33 | daemonkeeper | sure |
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| 21:09.51 | Llywelyn_ | wols: got it :) |
| 21:09.57 | daemonkeeper | A window manager is only (yet important) part of a desktop environment. |
| 21:10.03 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: a window manager doesnt do alot more than displaying borders around apps and makeing them movable with your mouse etc |
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| 21:10.20 | daemonkeeper | valdyn: Well, there are some more things ... :) |
| 21:10.28 | v0rtek | i cant get my cdrom to mount . It has my ethernet card drivers |
| 21:10.39 | Llywelyn_ | daemonkeeper: well, i think it's better to keep the things simple :D |
| 21:10.41 | wols | v0rtek: what command did you try? |
| 21:10.51 | v0rtek | the guids i read dont help |
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| 21:10.56 | v0rtek | mount |
| 21:11.06 | wols | v0rtek: I hope you used more than that... |
| 21:11.16 | v0rtek | yeah |
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| 21:11.29 | v0rtek | but what command should i be using |
| 21:11.54 | Llywelyn_ | but as I have limited storage i would like to delete the DE i've installed before... maybe a clean install is better ? |
| 21:12.04 | valdyn | !remove xfce |
| 21:12.08 | valdyn | !remove lxde |
| 21:12.11 | valdyn | !test |
| 21:12.11 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 21:12.14 | biggi_mat | v0rtek, mount /dev/cdrom ? |
| 21:12.23 | v0rtek | yeah |
| 21:12.31 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: try "apt-get remove --purge lxde-common" |
| 21:12.32 | biggi_mat | Aaaaand? |
| 21:12.44 | biggi_mat | Maybe mount /dev/cdrom /mnt |
| 21:12.50 | biggi_mat | Then ls /mnt |
| 21:12.51 | biggi_mat | ? |
| 21:12.52 | v0rtek | say cant find mount point lol |
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| 21:13.09 | biggi_mat | Try what I said last |
| 21:13.19 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: thanks. but isn't aptitude better for the removal of dependencies ? i heard that apt-get only removes the package, not the libs ect... |
| 21:13.36 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: sure yes |
| 21:14.06 | wols | Llywelyn_: not anymore |
| 21:14.29 | Llywelyn_ | ? |
| 21:14.32 | v0rtek | k i try it thanxs! bbl time to eats |
| 21:14.42 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: apt-get *can* do this too now |
| 21:14.57 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: i dont appreciate that, but you use whatever you prefer |
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| 21:15.32 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: i have no preference, i'd like to use the easiest and better one. I've always used apt-get until now though. |
| 21:16.01 | valdyn | Llywelyn_: stick to apt-get then, its not really convenient to alternate usage between those 2 |
| 21:17.26 | Llywelyn_ | valdyn: ok then |
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| 21:22.04 | junix659 | it is blowing up on upon install |
| 21:22.15 | junix659 | telling me taht it can't do the video output |
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| 21:41.07 | v0rtek | im still getting unable to find device lol |
| 21:41.30 | streuner | lol |
| 21:42.03 | v0rtek | i need a guide for for fstab and mounting cds |
| 21:42.32 | streuner | mount /dev/sr(x) /media/cdrom |
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| 21:47.41 | v0rtek | i hope this work bb; |
| 21:47.50 | v0rtek | ;:) |
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| 21:50.18 | twobitsprite | so, I'm in an environment where we operate 3 DNS servers, 2 of which are used for internal names only, and one of which is a caching/forwarding name server for public names/domains. |
| 21:50.20 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.24 | twobitsprite | I've noticed that depending on the order of my DNS servers, sometimes public names won't resolve, as if it checks the first one, gets NXDOMAIN and gives up |
| 21:50.32 | twobitsprite | what's the best way to do this? Should the internal name servers forward to the caching/forwarding server? Or should I have the caching/forwarding one replicate from the internal ones? |
| 21:50.56 | twobitsprite | (not debian specific, but one of the DNS servers which I'm rebuilding will be debian :) |
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| 21:52.55 | twobitsprite | or should I just get rid of the caching/forwarding one and make the two internal ones caching/forwarding so they both have all the names? |
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| 21:53.42 | dym | twobitsprite: forward from internal to external |
| 21:53.44 | daemonkeeper | twobitsprite: Yes, that's the way to go. You want all name servers as resolvers (put some ACLs in it) |
| 21:54.29 | daemonkeeper | Or separate authoritative name server(s) completely from your network. |
| 21:55.32 | twobitsprite | daemonkeeper: the only problem is I have 3 sites (local, and then 2 datacenters)... |
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| 21:56.18 | pipeline | twobitsprite: modern versions of BIND support split DNS |
| 21:56.20 | daemonkeeper | Well, if you can't split the tasks, use some access control to determine which clients are allowed to recures. |
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| 21:56.49 | pipeline | twobitsprite: so have all clients use the internal nameservers exclusively |
| 21:58.02 | twobitsprite | hmm... let me elaborate a bit... We have our local office, which doesn't have any servers, but has people who need DNS... then we have our 2 datacenters... Maybe I should make them all replicate the internal stuff, but also make them all caching/forwarding for public stuff... |
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| 21:58.25 | twobitsprite | then have all the servers in each datacenter point to their local DNS and the one in our local office as a backup? |
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| 21:58.41 | twobitsprite | and have the local workstations point to the local DNS and just one of the remote ones? |
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| 21:59.20 | twobitsprite | also, one of the datacenters is halfway across the country (US) |
| 21:59.33 | Misiol | hi |
| 22:00.51 | daemonkeeper | twobitsprite: What's your problem? Configure both name servers as recursors and authoritiative nameservers and grant access for recursing only from your office. |
| 22:01.28 | twobitsprite | daemonkeeper: I think I see what you mean |
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| 22:02.42 | twobitsprite | daemonkeeper: so basically what I was saying... all 3 should have everything, but make the office one the primary for office stuff, but allow recursing on the datacenter servers as fallback |
| 22:03.01 | daemonkeeper | Just do it(tm). |
| 22:03.03 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | Ù٠اØد ÙتØدث اÙعربÙØ© |
| 22:03.09 | twobitsprite | :) |
| 22:03.17 | twobitsprite | thanks |
| 22:03.51 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | I NEED name channel arabic |
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| 22:04.14 | daemonkeeper | !arabic |
| 22:04.14 | dpkg | [arabic] Linux supports the Arabic language. See http://www.arabeyes.org/download/documents/howto/arabic-howto-en/ For help with debian in Arabic, ask in #debian-lb on irc.freenode.net (and be patient! it's a small community) |
| 22:04.14 | twobitsprite | !arabic |
| 22:04.17 | lumio | hello everybody... I got a question ... a mixture out of php, shell and gnokii: I want to call gnokii via php to send and receive sms... I want to do that in a cronjob, so only errors should be sent back to output. But gnokii always has it's version sent for output... even if I say gnokii --command > /dev/null, there comes always the "header" GNOKII Version 0.6.29 - does anyone know to disable that? |
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| 22:05.20 | ompaul | lumio: perhaps some messing with sheel like cut -d"." -f1 |
| 22:05.24 | ompaul | shell |
| 22:05.38 | ompaul | or f3 |
| 22:05.54 | lumio | .... ok... ahm... what does that mean :D |
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| 22:06.19 | ompaul | cuts it in front of the 29 |
| 22:06.28 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | اÙا Ùا اتØدث اÙاÙÙÙÙزÙØ© |
| 22:06.47 | twobitsprite | aLHzen]]Mtem{{: /join #debian-lb |
| 22:06.53 | lumio | so pmaul - what should I do? |
| 22:07.09 | v0rtek | now i get a "-/bin/bash: sysntax error: unexpected "c" |
| 22:07.11 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | I can,nt speak english |
| 22:07.22 | ompaul | aLHzen]]Mtem{{: /join #debian-lb |
| 22:07.31 | v0rtek | any ideas? :) |
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| 22:08.01 | thomaschaaf | I am having trouble with the shutdown command. I would like to shutdown in 1 hour from now. shutdown -k -t 3600 now tells me now that the machine will shutdown but will do it in 1 hour can I do it differently? That it will tell me in 1 hour? |
| 22:08.08 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | ok |
| 22:08.10 | thomaschaaf | what do I put instead of the now? |
| 22:08.35 | ompaul | lumio: actually sorry I didn't read your request, I'd look for a channel for gnokii |
| 22:08.48 | twobitsprite | thomaschaaf: |
| 22:08.56 | twobitsprite | thomaschaaf: "shutdown -h 1h" |
| 22:09.08 | thomaschaaf | twobitsprite: thanks! |
| 22:09.11 | twobitsprite | or whatever options you need... but it should understand 1h |
| 22:09.46 | lumio | ompaul ... yeah I tried it in #gnokii - but it seems there is eveyone idle :D |
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| 22:10.41 | thomaschaaf | twobitsprite: does not seem to work. |
| 22:10.56 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | I GO IB |
| 22:11.22 | thomaschaaf | using what you just gave me just gives out the help |
| 22:12.02 | twobitsprite | thomaschaaf: sorry, try "shutdown -h 1:00" |
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| 22:12.39 | thomaschaaf | shutdown -h 60 seems to be 1 hour |
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| 22:12.51 | thomaschaaf | 1:00 would be the time :) thanks anyway! |
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| 22:14.57 | twobitsprite | you're right... damn, I fail today |
| 22:15.24 | ompaul | abrotman: there is nobody in -lb no chanserv nothing |
| 22:15.31 | ompaul | only that guy |
| 22:15.37 | twobitsprite | poor guy |
| 22:15.45 | ompaul | well me ... |
| 22:15.51 | twobitsprite | the factoid did say it was a small community :P |
| 22:16.00 | ompaul | but I don't speak any more than one person |
| 22:16.13 | ompaul | knows one guy who might but not at this time locally |
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| 22:16.53 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | pleas go #sugar |
| 22:16.53 | ompaul | twobitsprite: it is not even a registered channel |
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| 22:18.48 | twobitsprite | aLHzen]]Mtem{{: debian-l10n-arabic@lists.debian.org |
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| 22:19.23 | ironm | good evening. I hope you can five me a hint. Why do I get the followinf error message when executing the last debuild command? |
| 22:19.30 | ironm | apt-get source xen; sudo apt-get build-dep xen; dch; debuild -us -uc -B |
| 22:19.52 | ironm | like: dpkg-buildpackage: Fehler: Fehler-Exitstatus von fakeroot debian/rules clean war 2 |
| 22:19.52 | ironm | debuild: fatal error at line 1340: |
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| 22:20.01 | v0rtek | is there a debian supprt chan for librariy related error? |
| 22:20.12 | daemonkeeper | The actual problem is denoted above, ironm. |
| 22:20.28 | daemonkeeper | As far as I remember this is by design. |
| 22:20.41 | streuner | v0rtek: #debian :-) |
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| 22:20.50 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: what's your error? |
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| 22:20.58 | daemonkeeper | In the first run, the Xen build Makefile only generates control files. |
| 22:21.01 | ironm | daemon, hmmm .. how do you mean that? ... <daemonkeeper> The actual problem is denoted above, ironm. |
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| 22:21.08 | v0rtek | "-/bin/bash: sysntax error: unexpected "c" |
| 22:21.18 | streuner | v0rtek: and please tell us which package it is |
| 22:21.19 | daemonkeeper | Paste the full output |
| 22:21.26 | daemonkeeper | (To a pastebin!) |
| 22:21.35 | streuner | dpkg, paste |
| 22:21.35 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 22:21.42 | ironm | daemonkeeper, do you mean I should it once more ? |
| 22:21.53 | daemonkeeper | As far as I remember, yes. |
| 22:22.22 | juso | is there a way I can screen shot a desktop while remotely ssh'ed into the machine? |
| 22:22.22 | daemonkeeper | Yet, paste the output to a pastebin. |
| 22:22.34 | ironm | sure daemonkeeper .. I did .. it looks better now |
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| 22:22.44 | ironm | thank you :) |
| 22:22.46 | v0rtek | twobitsprite: here the msg -/bin/sh: syntax error: unexpected "c" |
| 22:22.58 | streuner | juso: scrot? |
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| 22:23.26 | ompaul | juso: ssh -X user@farbox program-name-goes-here |
| 22:23.28 | v0rtek | i tried to google for it first |
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| 22:23.45 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: what are you running when you get that message? |
| 22:23.47 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | Do you want help my channel /join #sugar |
| 22:23.49 | streuner | v0rtek: whic package? |
| 22:23.58 | juso | ompual: "program name" ? |
| 22:23.58 | ompaul | juso: with it's options when escaped |
| 22:24.00 | streuner | v0rtek: which package? |
| 22:24.02 | v0rtek | mount |
| 22:24.13 | streuner | thats insane, then |
| 22:24.23 | v0rtek | im trying to mount my cdrom |
| 22:24.25 | ompaul | juso: pick a program that will do screenshots that is installed on the other box |
| 22:24.27 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: you run "mount" and get that error? |
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| 22:24.32 | streuner | sure |
| 22:24.35 | v0rtek | yes |
| 22:24.35 | streuner | what else |
| 22:24.55 | juso | ompaul, ahhh! ok gotcha |
| 22:25.06 | debish | heya! |
| 22:25.10 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: is that the only thing it says, or is there more to it? can you pastebin the full thing from command to the end of the output? |
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| 22:25.17 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | Channel the translation |
| 22:25.34 | v0rtek | thats all the uotput |
| 22:25.47 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: what does "which mount" say? |
| 22:26.06 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | channle is the translation |
| 22:26.12 | v0rtek | want me to reboot and find out? |
| 22:26.21 | streuner | no |
| 22:26.47 | streuner | maybe you tell us what kind of version of Debian you use |
| 22:26.49 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | GO /join #sugar |
| 22:26.58 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: why would you need to reboot to run "which mount"? |
| 22:27.09 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: oh, I guess you're dual booting? |
| 22:27.19 | twobitsprite | aLHzen]]Mtem{{: no |
| 22:27.34 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | whay |
| 22:27.44 | ompaul | we don't know sugar |
| 22:27.48 | v0rtek | xp only thing that will go online atm i have to reboot to debian to get u the error |
| 22:27.52 | twobitsprite | aLHzen]]Mtem{{: why /join #sugar? |
| 22:28.07 | streuner | v0rtek: oh, you are using virtualbox or something? |
| 22:28.14 | v0rtek | no |
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| 22:28.39 | v0rtek | goodbye microsoft on google im using that |
| 22:28.54 | v0rtek | yeah dual boot |
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| 22:29.06 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: it doesn't make sense to me that running "mount" would give you a bash error... it's an ELF executable.... so yeah... go ahead and reboot and get the output of "which mount" and "file `which mount`" |
| 22:29.53 | ironm | daemonkeeper, what package can I install to sign .deb packages? .. Could not find a signing program (pgp or gpg)! |
| 22:30.12 | daemonkeeper | gnupg. Why do you want to sign packages? |
| 22:30.46 | v0rtek | brb |
| 22:31.09 | ironm | daemonkeeper, hmm .. I have gnupg installed .. |
| 22:31.26 | streuner | ironm: thats not the question... |
| 22:31.49 | daemonkeeper | Well, most likely you did not change debian/changelog to match your name, so debuild won't find a matching private key as you are no developer. |
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| 22:32.00 | daemonkeeper | Hence I ask, why you want to sign your packages at all. |
| 22:32.20 | streuner | (you dont need to sign packages at all, if you arent a DD...) |
| 22:32.47 | ironm | I see daemonkeeper ... it is due to ironm@wheezy:~/xen-4.1.2$ debuild -sa -S -k'PGPKEY' |
| 22:33.04 | ironm | thank you streuner .. I guess I don't need to sign them |
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| 22:34.56 | streuner | ironm: you dont need to sign packages, only if you give them to public... |
| 22:35.44 | streuner | and public means, if you upload them into Debian |
| 22:35.45 | ironm | streuner, one day i will do .. however I don't really need to sign them now |
| 22:35.49 | ironm | yes |
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| 22:36.14 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | ا٠ÙÙاة ââ sugarÙÙ ÙÙاة ترجÙ
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| 22:36.17 | remote | hello |
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| 22:37.15 | streuner | dpkg, sy |
| 22:37.15 | dpkg | streuner: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 22:37.18 | streuner | hm |
| 22:37.23 | streuner | dpkg, arabic |
| 22:37.23 | dpkg | i heard arabic is Linux supports the Arabic language. See http://www.arabeyes.org/download/documents/howto/arabic-howto-en/ For help with debian in Arabic, ask in #debian-lb on irc.freenode.net (and be patient! it's a small community) |
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| 22:37.38 | v0rtek | ash command not found |
| 22:37.49 | twobitsprite | streuner: dont' bother, we've told him... plus there's no one in there anyways |
| 22:37.52 | streuner | aLHzen]]Mtem{{: please tell us in english, most of us dont unterstand arabic very well |
| 22:37.53 | remote | I hate to ask this here but I've just installed debian 6 in dual boot with windows 7 and I'm unable to boot windows anymore (yay!), its partitions are still available from Linux but when I try to boot the OS i get a very quick blue screen of death and it then says it cannot locate the file system. |
| 22:37.58 | remote | Could someone please advise? |
| 22:38.29 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | Sorry |
| 22:38.33 | remote | I do get the "Starting windows" screen with the very nice animation but the crash occurs after that |
| 22:38.36 | streuner | np |
| 22:39.18 | ironm | streuner, I started it just as follows and it looks better: ironm@wheezy:~/xen-4.1.2$ debuild -sa |
| 22:39.43 | twobitsprite | aLHzen]]Mtem{{: email debian-l10n-arabic@lists.debian.org |
| 22:40.02 | ironm | daemonkeeper, .. yes .. I am not debian developer |
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| 22:42.25 | v0rtek | now what ? |
| 22:43.15 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: that's all you got, was "ash command not found"? |
| 22:43.34 | v0rtek | correct |
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| 22:44.02 | v0rtek | im stumbed i even tried google lol |
| 22:44.12 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: when/where did you get that error? |
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| 22:44.29 | v0rtek | in ash shell |
| 22:44.43 | v0rtek | during debian install |
| 22:45.01 | twobitsprite | ohh, this is in the installer? |
| 22:45.06 | v0rtek | i went to a terminal to try and mount the cd |
| 22:45.14 | v0rtek | yes |
| 22:45.39 | v0rtek | im totaly lost |
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| 22:45.44 | streuner | and you are sure, its installed stable at all? |
| 22:46.01 | twobitsprite | it didn't mount the cd when it booted? |
| 22:46.03 | aLHzen]]Mtem{{ | smhar |
| 22:46.22 | v0rtek | no |
| 22:46.47 | streuner | why do you want *mount* the CD at all? |
| 22:47.09 | v0rtek | it has drivers needed for my network card |
| 22:47.13 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: what problem are you trying to solve... does the installed complain that it can't find the cd or something? |
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| 22:47.32 | v0rtek | yes |
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| 22:47.47 | streuner | v0rtek: everything should be solved via sources.list |
| 22:48.06 | twobitsprite | streuner: I think he's using the firmware cd |
| 22:48.13 | streuner | v0rtek: and in gerneral in the kernel itself |
| 22:48.14 | v0rtek | k what server should i us? |
| 22:48.26 | streuner | non-free |
| 22:48.39 | streuner | according to twobitsprite then |
| 22:49.01 | streuner | /msg dpkg non-free |
| 22:49.14 | twobitsprite | v0rtek: try this instead http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 22:50.31 | streuner | twobitsprite: omg, HOW do you come to FW in any case? |
| 22:51.02 | streuner | because his NIC doesnt work? |
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| 22:51.11 | v0rtek | can y/msg dpkg k i dl and give it a try thanxs now this is why i run debian great support |
| 22:51.33 | twobitsprite | streuner: he's using a separate CD for drivers for his NIC... my understanding is that all drivers are ther, but the only separate CD I know of for that stuff is the firmware CD |
| 22:51.45 | streuner | hm |
| 22:51.53 | twobitsprite | am I wrong? |
| 22:52.05 | streuner | i have no idea |
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| 22:52.20 | twobitsprite | streuner: then what's with the "omg wtf are you talking about" speech? |
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| 22:52.34 | streuner | no, you got that wrong then :-) |
| 22:52.53 | twobitsprite | streuner: ok :) my apologies then |
| 22:52.54 | v0rtek | wres the debian genera; chat room? |
| 22:53.02 | streuner | twobitsprite: the question is still, why he got an error about libs... |
| 22:53.10 | TBotNik | All: Hey guys another box will let me boot HDD, can not login through XWin, but with Alt+F1 logins in fine. ??? Any ideas? |
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| 22:53.19 | twobitsprite | streuner: I haven't seen any errors about libs |
| 22:53.51 | boudiccas | v0rtek; i havent a clue what you're on about! Please speak english |
| 22:55.02 | streuner | twobitsprite: <v0rtek> is there a debian supprt chan for librariy related error? |
| 22:55.52 | twobitsprite | streuner: yeah, I don't know what he meant there... but I asked what the error was, and it was an error while running "mount" complaining about bash syntax errors |
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| 22:57.30 | nsadmin | TBotNik, seems like your box is working |
| 22:58.10 | nsadmin | what exactly is your box doing at xdm login? |
| 22:58.28 | nsadmin | is there a place to put your user name and pass? |
| 22:59.01 | TBotNik | nsadmin: Get the login screen and that is all, fails login every time. Was originally thinking bad/corrupted passwd file but not after getting in on tty. |
| 22:59.16 | nsadmin | define "fails login" |
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| 22:59.45 | nsadmin | what is the -exact- behavior you see? |
| 22:59.57 | TBotNik | nsadmin: Fails and returns to login screen again. |
| 23:00.07 | twobitsprite | TBotNik: do you get an error? |
| 23:00.17 | ompaul | caps lock |
| 23:00.19 | twobitsprite | TBotNik: does it get an F- on it's paper? |
| 23:00.20 | TBotNik | Originally the chmod on sudoers and sudoers.d was 775, but got that changed to 440 as should be. supspecting something else in X11 got permissions changed. What do I look for? |
| 23:00.38 | streuner | ompaul: its an error by default :-P |
| 23:00.57 | ompaul | default position error - good - you wouldn't want people getting in |
| 23:00.58 | nsadmin | so, what I think is happening is, your login -succeeds-, but then the thing xdm wants to start isn't there or is having a problem |
| 23:01.21 | streuner | ompaul: not those who using CAPS LOCK :-P |
| 23:01.25 | ompaul | change to twm |
| 23:01.41 | nsadmin | default position error!! OH NOEZ! hope there's not an earthquake! |
| 23:01.42 | twobitsprite | SPEED CONTROL FOR COOL |
| 23:02.00 | streuner | hehe :-) |
| 23:02.01 | nsadmin | if you are positioned on default, that could be a problem :) |
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| 23:02.57 | nsadmin | {41444d494e}, hey! those are caps! |
| 23:04.20 | v0rtek | hrm whats a good free burner for wintendo? |
| 23:04.38 | v0rtek | windows |
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| 23:05.05 | nsadmin | pack of matches and some sterno? |
| 23:05.59 | streuner | cdrw tools for windows, just google for it |
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| 23:06.12 | v0rtek | thankyou |
| 23:06.23 | ompaul | goto local shop buy some random linux magazine install linux get your debian install media onto it and then move from there |
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| 23:07.10 | v0rtek | im on a nursing home lol |
| 23:07.33 | ompaul | s/on/in/ perhaps |
| 23:07.49 | nsadmin | so the nursing home is located below you? |
| 23:07.50 | streuner | ompaul: lol |
| 23:08.23 | nsadmin | or, you're parked by it and snarfing their ip connectivity :) |
| 23:08.35 | twobitsprite | I do all my hacking sitting on the roof of nursing homes :P |
| 23:08.57 | streuner | v0rtek: nevermind, its a strange question in #Debian, just get nero, there should be a demo version available |
| 23:09.27 | v0rtek | yes |
| 23:09.29 | v0rtek | ty |
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| 23:09.45 | ompaul | has an allegy, it is to microsoft windows |
| 23:09.46 | klh | I need a clean /home |
| 23:09.47 | twobitsprite | uses imgburn... free as in free, not as in demo or shareware... and it just works :) |
| 23:10.01 | nsadmin | klh, man rm :) |
| 23:10.03 | klh | how do I change /home from residing on hda4 to the same as / |
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| 23:10.21 | streuner | ompaul: tell us news :-P (its really strange that you are in #Debian then) :-P |
| 23:10.22 | twobitsprite | klh: man cp |
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| 23:10.59 | ompaul | as root mv /home /something-not-home mkdir /home and alter your fstab |
| 23:11.17 | twobitsprite | klh: seriously, copy or rsync or whatever the files to something like /tmp, then umount whatever is mounted on /home, then copy/rsync back to home... edit /etc/fstab to keep it from being mounted again |
| 23:11.30 | klh | this is good |
| 23:11.38 | klh | except the issue is startx issues |
| 23:11.41 | ompaul | streuner: actually if you knew me you'd say allergy is a bit polite, pathological hatred might be closer |
| 23:11.44 | klh | which i encountered |
| 23:12.13 | klh | so I need a *clean* /home for the files that need be in there by default |
| 23:12.17 | twobitsprite | doesn't understand hatred towards OS's... it's an OS... |
| 23:12.46 | klh | because with the current minimal installs, the files are not being put in my current /home |
| 23:12.56 | nsadmin | ompaul: he might need to umount /home first...and all these different and some incomplete sets of steps starting to float around, communication breakdown imminent :) |
| 23:13.03 | klh | thus every time I startx a daggum xterm is opened |
| 23:13.44 | ompaul | twobitsprite: ahh some day you'll remember what damage I have done ;-) |
| 23:13.52 | twobitsprite | klh: ok.. copy/rsync contents of /home to something like /tmp, rm -rf /home/<user>, cp -var /etc/skel /home/<user> |
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| 23:14.12 | nsadmin | kln: as long as something is mounted on /home, stuff copied to /home/wherever/* will end up on the mounted fs |
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| 23:14.28 | debish | (about to overcome the channel limit :O) |
| 23:14.31 | klh | etc/skel/home ? |
| 23:14.33 | debish | I should leave |
| 23:14.38 | klh | it has the files you say...? |
| 23:14.59 | nsadmin | debish, the bot will take care of it |
| 23:15.19 | lyetz | Any reason why symlinks in rcX.d aren't being run? |
| 23:15.35 | klh | well, i shall return if this does not pan out |
| 23:15.35 | lyetz | I have one in each level, althuogh it's not being run whatsoever |
| 23:15.46 | nsadmin | you're not in runlevel X? |
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| 23:16.01 | lyetz | nsadmin, I have it in each directory |
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| 23:16.14 | nsadmin | what's the symlink called? |
| 23:16.19 | lyetz | ../etc/init.d/up |
| 23:16.22 | lyetz | whoops |
| 23:16.24 | lyetz | ../init.d/up |
| 23:16.43 | nsadmin | and the name of the symlink is? |
| 23:16.47 | lyetz | S02up |
| 23:17.02 | nsadmin | ls -l /etc/init.d/up |
| 23:17.13 | lyetz | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 68 Aug 5 22:43 /etc/init.d/up |
| 23:17.28 | nsadmin | looks good... |
| 23:17.34 | lyetz | Yeah, can't figure it out |
| 23:17.37 | lyetz | Works flawlessly in 5.0 |
| 23:17.40 | lyetz | 6.0 gives me problems |
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| 23:17.56 | nsadmin | ohh, wait, the new init |
| 23:18.55 | lyetz | nsadmin, new init? |
| 23:19.05 | nsadmin | it's not sysvinit or upstart, it's something akin to make |
| 23:20.02 | lyetz | So what are my options? |
| 23:20.02 | streuner | hm |
| 23:20.13 | nsadmin | you probably need to put some comment lines in there, look at the other scripts in /etc/init.d |
| 23:20.24 | lyetz | ah |
| 23:20.25 | streuner | amset:/tmp# ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov |
| 23:20.25 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.26 | lyetz | I'll take a look |
| 23:20.28 | streuner | ... |
| 23:20.40 | streuner | 7202 sec. wtf? |
| 23:20.54 | nsadmin | many secs! |
| 23:20.58 | streuner | yeah |
| 23:21.07 | amphi | heh |
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| 23:21.46 | streuner | amphi: i have no idea what this hugh difference caused... |
| 23:21.49 | nsadmin | of course... maybe nasa lost some funding... |
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| 23:22.05 | amphi | streuner: nor I ;) |
| 23:22.26 | streuner | shakes his head |
| 23:23.22 | TBotNik | twobitsprite nsadmin: K put PB with logs at: http://pastebin.com/VgdmNzv9 |
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| 23:24.13 | nsadmin | well of course you should try reading those logs |
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| 23:26.10 | abrotman | ompaul: ? |
| 23:26.42 | lyetz | nsadmin, any other ideas? |
| 23:27.20 | abrotman | ompaul: what is -lb? |
| 23:30.04 | ompaul | abrotman: it is in the arabic factoid lebonan |
| 23:30.07 | ompaul | woops |
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| 23:30.35 | ompaul | Lebanon |
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| 23:33.00 | streuner | well, it was more sy, but its all arabic |
| 23:37.00 | streuner | dpkg> somebody said arabic was Linux supports the Arabic language. See http://www.arabeyes.org/download/documents/howto/arabic-howto-en/ For help with debian in Arabic, ask in #debian-lb on irc.freenode.net (and be patient! it's a small community) |
| 23:37.00 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, streuner |
| 23:37.07 | streuner | sure :-P |
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| 23:37.48 | streuner | all arabic people into #debian-lb |
| 23:38.02 | streuner | so it seems to me |
| 23:38.26 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | I don't have much hard drive space in my test installation, and I want to install a 1GiB game from its 1GiB installer. The binary is presently on a DVDR, so I can't just execute it. How can I make a ramdisk to copy the installer to, where I can mark it executable and run it? |
| 23:41.16 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | (I don't see /dev/ram1 or anything like that, I haven't had success with some of the other instructions I've found online, and /tmp is swapping too much.) |
| 23:41.43 | streuner | get some newer hardware |
| 23:42.47 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | streuner: Core i7 2600K. 16 GiB DDR3-1333 cas 7. :-P |
| 23:43.33 | abrotman | ompaul: try oftc? |
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| 23:45.14 | zykotick9 | utrrrongeeb_fenr, i assume you are using wine (thus the executable problem on cd/dvd media?), if you use wine from CLI it won't give you the executable issue. |
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| 23:46.39 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | xykotick9: I'm not; aren't they mounted noexec by default? |
| 23:46.59 | streuner_ | its a FS issue then |
| 23:47.05 | zykotick9 | utrrrongeeb_fenr, don't think so. PS. TAB fail ;) |
| 23:47.27 | streuner_ | if you have noexec, its an error then... |
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| 23:48.27 | streuner_ | but anyway, with this kind of hardware, you shouldnt have a problem at all, IMO |
| 23:48.45 | zykotick9 | utrrrongeeb_fenr, "udf,iso9660" are the only default for cd in my fstab |
| 23:48.50 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | zykotick9: I'm using ircII since I haven't installed Pidgin yet. No tab. Sorry. |
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| 23:49.29 | zykotick9 | utrrrongeeb_fenr, well, you got my nick that time. ircii doesn't have tab completion? that's downright ODD. |
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| 23:49.44 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | streuner, zykotick9: I'm using Thunar in Xfce. The DVDR is a little bit corrupted, so for some reason it isn't mounted automatically, and doesn't appear in gvfs for manual mounting. So I have to use the command line to mount it... |
| 23:50.28 | zykotick9 | utrrrongeeb_fenr, and on my system manually mounting the cd wouldn't prevent execution... but i guess on yours it does? |
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| 23:50.42 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | streuner, zykotick9: fstab only lists the options user,noauto. I manually mounted it exec... (just a moment.) |
| 23:52.00 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | streuner, zykotick9: It's executable now. Not sure what the deal with the default DVD permissions are -- seems everything is executable, but that's disallowed by default. Guess the ramdisk wasn't necessary.... Thanks! |
| 23:53.00 | zykotick9 | utrrrongeeb_fenr, I don't think i helped, but you're welcome ;) |
| 23:53.25 | streuner_ | well, i second zykotick9 :-) |
| 23:53.41 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | Hey, you made me try remounting it properly... I probably would've battered away with ramdisks for the next little while... |
| 23:53.57 | utrrrongeeb_fenr | (Of course, it could be useful to know how to do that....) |
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| 23:55.41 | streuner_ | damn, when are going to ask somebody easy questions? :-P |
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| 23:57.42 | streuner_ | somebody* |
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| 23:58.18 | rickbol | upgraded a squeeze box to wheezy but it didn't upgrade the kernel to 2.6.39-2-686-pae. Are there caveats to upgrading the kernel image? |
| 23:58.41 | streuner_ | meta-package |
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| 23:59.27 | streuner_ | (if you have the meta package installed, it should install the new kernel in the branch then...) |