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| 00:00.40 | peterray | See /etc/network/interfaces . |
| 00:00.44 | jmarsden | omido: If you don't want it, remove all eth0 related config stuff from /etc/network/interfaces . |
| 00:01.28 | Amarande | oh, that reminds me. has debian gotten any better with handling static IP on a LAN without the network tools puking and feeling like there is no Internet connection because you're not using DHCP? |
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| 00:02.23 | Amarande | in the past, at least, it seemed like the X network-related gadgets would insist that you weren't on the network if you used static and didn't accept a dynamic LAN IP |
| 00:02.49 | omido | petteray and jmarsden i'm a newbie . can i be able to use Wired lan connection the next time i want? |
| 00:03.22 | jmarsden | If you leave things alone, yes. if you remove the config info for the wired interface, you would need to put it back before you can use it :) |
| 00:03.28 | Amarande | (And since 1) most routers don't seem to be smart enough to be able to assign static IPs to certain MACs via DHCP, and 2) you can't have a machine be the DHCP server for *itself* ...) |
| 00:03.29 | peterray | That's never happened to me, Amarande. |
| 00:04.23 | peterray | Comment the lines with '#' instead of deleting them, omido. |
| 00:04.37 | Amarande | peterray: whenever I did my usual editing of the config file to have a static IP I'd get a nice fun icon in my desktop claiming that I had no Internet, even though there very definitely *was* a network connection. I could never seem to make that icon reflect the actual status unless I let the machine receive its IP via DHCP. |
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| 00:05.03 | Amarande | at least, that was the case up through lenny-while-it-was-testing or so, which was the last time I used Debian. |
| 00:05.10 | omido | thanx a lot. |
| 00:05.10 | peterray | Oh, sorry. Didn't realize you were talking about gadgets. |
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| 00:05.30 | peterray | All I use is openbox and conky. |
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| 00:09.02 | omido | sorry if this question maybe offtopic.but when i want to download skype for debian 5x x86 it gives me an .exe installer (maybe because i use an iranian ip) isnt there another way to install skype? |
| 00:09.26 | streuner_ | !skype |
| 00:09.27 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> program which Debian cannot distribute due to its restrictive license. Packages are available from http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ or use the sources.list line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free". Not supported in #debian, consider using <ekiga>, <linphone> or <pidgin> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/skype |
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| 00:10.21 | ntvork | Is there anyone here that knows Java, that could help me? |
| 00:10.30 | omido | streuner_ thankyou |
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| 00:12.14 | streuner_ | omido: np |
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| 00:13.27 | omido | !ati |
| 00:13.27 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 00:13.43 | omido | :( |
| 00:15.00 | streuner_ | omido: if you need more than 1280 resolution, VESA is just able to deal with that... |
| 00:15.33 | omido | streuner_ i just installed debian right now and i'm a newbie. i wanted to know if my graphic card is installed and works or not. |
| 00:15.53 | streuner_ | omido: just use a LIVE-CD |
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| 00:16.11 | cnz | how do I clearn /var/cache? |
| 00:16.13 | streuner_ | omido: well, VESA works always... |
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| 00:16.39 | streuner_ | cnz: apt-get clean (var/cache/apt) |
| 00:16.46 | omido | streuner_ i want to have 3d and i've heared that if a graphic driver is installed battery life will be longer |
| 00:16.51 | cnz | ty just read that in the help option |
| 00:17.04 | Amarande | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, first wail and gnash teeth. At least, if the ATI drivers are as bad as the last time I tried to use an ATI card in Linux. :S |
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| 00:17.30 | peterray | Not that bad. |
| 00:17.40 | cnz | why doens't tab compression work all the time |
| 00:17.41 | dvs | Amarande: It's build into the kernel now |
| 00:17.48 | peterray | Except they're a bit slow to update the drivers, so using them with a new kernel needed some hacking. |
| 00:17.53 | Amarande | Back in those days, every single time I tried to use Linux with an ATI card, I would get a kernel panic every time I tried either switching users with GDM, or logging out, or anything that would result in X exiting for any reason |
| 00:18.19 | dvs | Amarande: No such problems here. |
| 00:18.27 | omido | Amarande right know i have also openSUSE 11.4 installed and i installed the ATI catalyst driver by using its one click-install i also had ubuntu before and it asked me to install ATI drivers. what should i do with debian? |
| 00:18.29 | cnz | tab completion won't work for /var/(tab) |
| 00:18.39 | Amarande | Apparently, it was a known bug, but it went at least two full major releases of fglrx without being fixed |
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| 00:18.53 | peterray | The current version has a big bug, at least for my card. |
| 00:18.56 | dvs | omido: Install the nonfree firmware package. |
| 00:19.13 | dvs | omido: I guess it depends what model you have. |
| 00:19.27 | omido | ATI Mobility radeon HD 4500 |
| 00:19.31 | peterray | There's a little box of about 20 square pixels in the bottom-right corner, and if I put my mouse pointer there, X hogs the CPU. |
| 00:19.43 | dvs | omido: My HD 4200 works fine. |
| 00:20.06 | peterray | There's no actual "box", I mean an area. |
| 00:20.07 | omido | dvs how should i install that package? |
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| 00:21.25 | dvs | omido: aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 00:21.44 | dvs | but you have to have nonfree in your sources.list |
| 00:22.58 | Amarande | peterray: it's surprising how bad that bottom right corner is for the OS in certain cases :S |
| 00:23.08 | cnz | question is aptitude better to use than apt-get or does it not matter? |
| 00:23.16 | Amarande | I'm not sure why. I do know I've seen the bottom right corner to be a source of grumbliness in other completely different situations too |
| 00:23.28 | Amarande | like, for instance, any Windows based machine I've seen with a touchscreen, the bottom right corner has by far the least responsiveness |
| 00:23.28 | peterray | Heh. |
| 00:23.29 | streuner_ | cnz: aptitude is default |
| 00:23.30 | omido | dvs i'm right now in software sources . how could i add nonfree? |
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| 00:24.13 | dvs | omido: uh... check the checkbox? |
| 00:24.39 | streuner_ | cnz: some people in Debian use dselect still, and dselect kept many people to use Debian at all... |
| 00:24.42 | omido | dvs when i click nothing happens. i mean it dosnt check |
| 00:25.17 | streuner_ | cnz: so just use whatever you are more familar, IMO |
| 00:25.20 | omido | dvs should i use the U.S server? |
| 00:25.23 | daemonkeeper | dselect is deprecated. |
| 00:25.34 | ntvork | I'm really sad at the moment. GNOME and KDE won't work with my onboard GPU |
| 00:25.34 | streuner_ | crap |
| 00:25.35 | dvs | omido: Any official mirror should work. |
| 00:25.36 | cnz | streuner_: aahh thanks for the understanding |
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| 00:25.47 | ntvork | Back to vista :( |
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| 00:26.05 | omido | thankyou |
| 00:26.07 | streuner_ | daemonkeeper: dselect is still maintained and in Debian, its always a part of Debian :-P |
| 00:26.15 | daemonkeeper | cnz: You can use either one, you can even happily mix apt-get with aptitude these days. |
| 00:26.27 | streuner_ | true |
| 00:26.28 | peterray | I guess it's because of spin locks, Amaran. I had to patch the drivers because the kernel removed the big kernel lock. Either way, I'm sticking to 11.4 right now, as it doesn't have the problem. |
| 00:26.36 | dvs | np |
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| 00:27.04 | daemonkeeper | streuner_: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#pkgmgmt |
| 00:27.06 | cnz | daemonkeeper: yeah I have noticed you can mix it up |
| 00:27.20 | streuner_ | daemonkeeper: and btw dselect is just great, but you should what you are doing ;-) |
| 00:27.32 | daemonkeeper | cnz: Beware that's not _entirely_ true for Lenny or older |
| 00:27.33 | streuner_ | know* |
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| 00:28.04 | streuner_ | dpkg, start a packagemanager |
| 00:28.05 | dpkg | streuner_: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 00:28.08 | streuner_ | no |
| 00:28.39 | daemonkeeper | cnz: If you want to know more, ask dpkg about "why aptitude" (or "why not aptitude") |
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| 00:29.13 | cnz | daemonkeeper: cool thanks for the tips |
| 00:29.32 | streuner_ | dpkg, start a package manager war |
| 00:29.32 | dpkg | msi is victorious! |
| 00:29.41 | streuner_ | wtf is msi? |
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| 00:30.20 | althaser | guys someone using r8192e_pci module in amd64 systems ? |
| 00:30.36 | roksy | ok 10th reinstall, I can do this |
| 00:30.54 | dvs | !anyone |
| 00:30.55 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 00:31.33 | Amarande | cnz: generally, I use aptitude if there's a bunch of stuff I want to install at once (like when setting up the base system), and apt-get directly when I'm only planning to install a thing or two at the time |
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| 00:32.16 | althaser | dvs ok thanks ;) |
| 00:32.56 | cnz | Amarande: aahh, so like updated the system |
| 00:33.09 | cnz | would be a good choie to use aptitude vs apt-get |
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| 00:59.01 | kNC | So I have the debian OS, 8 cds - is there a way I can get the package that is nonfree for my wireless card? It is I think ipwx2200 or something like this. |
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| 00:59.16 | kNC | cause obviously i cant aptitude to get it cause its not on the internet |
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| 01:03.37 | ntvork | that's a good question, kNC... I'd like to also hear the answer |
| 01:04.05 | kNC | stick around ntvork, or i can pm you theanswer :) |
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| 01:04.11 | ntvork | Okay thanks :) |
| 01:04.14 | cyxri | guys need to restore ejabberd database anyone know how ? :\ |
| 01:04.18 | ntvork | my debian machine doesn't have wireless haha |
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| 01:05.11 | kNC | oh ntvork :< |
| 01:06.12 | ntvork | This is probably not the right irc, but when I install debian with GUI, GNOME(or)KDE won't work. |
| 01:06.22 | ntvork | my GPU has compatibility issues haha |
| 01:06.28 | ntvork | back to Vista :( |
| 01:06.49 | kuznetzvo | what kind of GPU we talkin about? |
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| 01:07.23 | ntvork | the graphics processor is an onboard one for My ASUS laptop. |
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| 01:07.59 | kuznetzvo | when i've had that, where you install with gui then x won't start.. usually it was failing to autodetect the right kind of module for your GPU |
| 01:08.34 | ntvork | oh, right, is there any way I could fix that? |
| 01:08.45 | ntvork | like installing CLI Debian first or something? |
| 01:09.11 | kuznetzvo | i have many fond memories of doing stage 1 gentoo installs for hours and hours.... |
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| 01:09.17 | kuznetzvo | staring at the xorg conf in nano =p |
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| 01:13.13 | ntvork | hmmm |
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| 01:13.38 | ntvork | kuznetzvo: thanks for that tidbit of info |
| 01:13.53 | ntvork | kuznetzvo: I'm actually looking at ways to solve the problem now. |
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| 01:13.59 | kuznetzvo | it's been years since i've done that. i wish i remembered more |
| 01:14.12 | ntvork | heh, I think I have to do something with nvidia-xconfig |
| 01:14.25 | ntvork | just not sure what |
| 01:14.41 | kuznetzvo | so your integrated GPU is nvidia? |
| 01:14.53 | ntvork | NVIDIA MCP79MVL |
| 01:15.06 | ntvork | so yes |
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| 01:15.30 | kNC | ntvork; found the firmware for download. so downloading then putting it on usb |
| 01:15.57 | ntvork | kNC: Awesome, do you have a link? |
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| 01:16.29 | kNC | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/squeeze/current/ |
| 01:16.31 | kNC | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ |
| 01:16.48 | kNC | It is one file but all firmware |
| 01:17.02 | ntvork | kNC: Thank you kindly! |
| 01:17.03 | ntvork | :) |
| 01:17.19 | kuznetzvo | ntvork: there are some forums out there with your issue. the consensus seems to be this. 1: remove existing drivers and kernel module for your GPU. install latest from nvidia's website. rerun nvidia-xconfig. reboot. |
| 01:17.21 | kNC | sure no problem if I can help I will |
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| 01:18.05 | ntvork | kuznetzvo: Thank you ver much for your help, I will try that. |
| 01:18.38 | kuznetzvo | first messing with gentoo stage 1 installs doing all this shit by hand.. no autodetect or autoconfig anything.. i definitely have sympathy :) |
| 01:19.06 | ntvork | wow, I feel your pain |
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| 01:19.30 | kuznetzvo | but hey, stage 1 is about as close to LFS as you can get without going full monty |
| 01:19.34 | kuznetzvo | you learn A LOT. |
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| 01:20.03 | ntvork | ha wow. |
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| 01:25.29 | kNC | ntvork. on the internet ;) |
| 01:26.26 | ntvork | wow. |
| 01:26.38 | ntvork | nvidia doesn't have any linux drivers for my chipset |
| 01:26.42 | ntvork | go figure... |
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| 01:27.49 | troutwine | I note that http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ calls pinning sloppy. What is the preferred way of preferring backports, nowadays? |
| 01:27.53 | ntvork | kNC, woo!!! |
| 01:27.59 | kNC | wow really ntvork? |
| 01:28.04 | kNC | ntvork; you must restart |
| 01:28.33 | Arrowmaster | troutwine: you shouldnt need to do anything now |
| 01:28.53 | ntvork | kNC: yeah it's a bit of a bummer. |
| 01:29.20 | troutwine | Arrowmaster: I enabled backports for virtualbox-4.x; squeeze has 3.x I did 'aptitute upgrade' after an update and did not get prompted for any new package updates. |
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| 01:30.13 | Arrowmaster | packages arent automatically upgraded from squeeze to squeeze-backports, you have to do it manually once, after that the version from backports will be upgraded automatically |
| 01:30.40 | troutwine | Hmm, that is much nicer than pinning. |
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| 01:31.09 | Arrowmaster | it just has a default to pin at 200 |
| 01:31.21 | kNC | ntvork; now to figure out how i can get out and in of the GUI to command line w/o going to Apps > Terminal |
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| 01:33.19 | ntvork | Try ALT + F2. |
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| 01:34.05 | kNC | no that just runs an application, sort of like START > Run, in Windows |
| 01:35.24 | ntvork | are you using GNOME? |
| 01:36.32 | kNC | Bingo was his name-o :) |
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| 01:36.48 | Arrowmaster | try ctrl-alt-f2 |
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| 01:36.57 | kNC | that works |
| 01:37.16 | kNC | thank you very much Arrowmaster - *makes a note on notepad near his desktop* |
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| 01:41.01 | sec-info | http://www.montauban-tourisme.com/ |
| 01:41.03 | sec-info | :-) |
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| 01:41.59 | kNC | shoots debian login screen and says, im only one user! |
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| 01:54.05 | ntvork | Oh Debian |
| 01:54.16 | ntvork | ... |
| 01:54.19 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 01:54.28 | ntvork | Nvidia, Y U NO SUPPLY DRIVERS FOR LINUX? |
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| 02:06.16 | Amarande | um, ntvork, nvidia supplies perfectly good drivers for linux |
| 02:06.50 | Amarande | in fact, I've never had any problems with nVidia except at times when my card has been too new to work with the versions available in Debian packages, in which case I'd find installation to be ridiculously arcane |
| 02:06.59 | ntvork | amarande, they haven't supplied any for MCP79MVL. |
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| 02:08.06 | nevyn | motherboard? |
| 02:08.27 | ntvork | GPU |
| 02:08.31 | ntvork | it's the chipset |
| 02:08.49 | Amarande | ah, onboard GPU? |
| 02:08.55 | Amarande | I've never seen that model number before. |
| 02:08.57 | ntvork | yeah, for my laptop |
| 02:09.12 | Amarande | hmm, it's not a GeForce or equivalent? weird. |
| 02:09.36 | ntvork | GeForce 8200M Series |
| 02:10.11 | Amarande | hmm |
| 02:10.33 | Amarande | http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-195.36.31-driver.html is the list of cards supported by the version that's available in the non-free archive for stable |
| 02:10.59 | Amarande | I see the 8200M G listed, anyway |
| 02:12.09 | ntvork | hmm, thanks Amarande. |
| 02:12.34 | ntvork | The overall problem is that when I install any linux distro, it works |
| 02:12.36 | ntvork | but the GUI does not. |
| 02:13.13 | ntvork | where is this non-archive stable? (sorry for the noob question) |
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| 02:24.58 | acx0 | is it preferred to setup the system $PATH in .profile or the shell's rc? I have it in .profile right now, but I've noticed that it doesn't take effect if I ssh into a machine |
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| 02:26.56 | intruder | acx0: if you want to set a custom system-wide $PATH it should be in a new file in /etc/profile.d/ |
| 02:28.15 | otzi | there's no preferred way. Rather, each person prefers one thing. |
| 02:28.17 | acx0 | intruder, not system wide, i'd prefer to keep it local, as I don't have root access to some of the machines i work on |
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| 02:28.33 | intruder | for a single user you're right ~/.profile should work |
| 02:28.34 | otzi | I have my .profile calling .bashrc and I set everything inside .bashrc |
| 02:28.45 | acx0 | i'm just wondering if it's okay in terms of convention to setup PATH in the shell's configuration file instead of .profile |
| 02:29.17 | otzi | I'm not aware of any conventions |
| 02:30.07 | intruder | By defaults, ~/.profile launches ~/.bashrc and sets the $PATH |
| 02:31.37 | acx0 | intruder, it doesn't seem to do anything when I log in through ssh (with PATH set in the .profile), I believe it has something to do with non-login shells |
| 02:32.48 | intruder | acx0: I doubt it since it also takes care of launching .bashrc |
| 02:32.53 | intruder | are you using screen by any chance ? |
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| 02:34.05 | acx0 | intruder, same behaviour with screen and without (and tmux as well) |
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| 02:34.21 | acx0 | is .profile only used by bash? because i'm using zsh at the moment |
| 02:34.30 | acx0 | but i think it was the same when i was using bash too |
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| 02:36.29 | intruder | as per its man page it should source /etc/profile then ~/.profile much like anything else |
| 02:36.55 | intruder | I bet on the syntax error ;P |
| 02:38.01 | acx0 | well, when I log in through ssh and check PATH, it's the system default, but if I do 'source .profile', then it sets it up according to my settings |
| 02:38.11 | acx0 | I guess i'll just put it in my shell's config file |
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| 02:41.04 | acx0 | oh nevermind, I guess zsh doesn't use .profile, looks like it uses .zprofile instead |
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| 02:41.17 | intruder | wow |
| 02:41.49 | roothorick | Okay, I *NEED* ddclient 3.8.1. What's the easiest way to install it in a way that it won't get clobbered by an update? |
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| 02:42.08 | intruder | outdated man page |
| 02:42.42 | intruder | clobbered ? |
| 02:42.48 | intruder | how ? |
| 02:42.51 | acx0 | use apt pinning? |
| 02:43.28 | roothorick | I don't want it to get overwritten if say, there's a 3.8.0-12 done by Debian maintainers |
| 02:43.48 | intruder | it wont update if the version isnt newer |
| 02:44.18 | roothorick | 3.8.1, far as I can tell, doesn't exist in Debian repositories |
| 02:46.16 | intruder | ah ok, well, get the tarball and do it the redneck way |
| 02:47.36 | roothorick | yeah, latest sid is 3.8.0-11.3 |
| 02:48.36 | intruder | which is the same as in stable |
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| 02:49.25 | roothorick | wasn't there a tool that creates deb packages on the fly from source releases? |
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| 02:50.21 | acx0 | checkinstall i believe |
| 02:50.34 | roothorick | that's it! |
| 02:51.09 | acx0 | but i think you'd have to setup apt pinning so that apt doesn't try to install the debian repository version |
| 02:51.23 | acx0 | i remember having that problem when using a custom patched version of urxvt |
| 02:51.51 | roothorick | ... this doesn't have a make install. Oh sod it. |
| 02:52.09 | acx0 | did you try make? |
| 02:52.13 | acx0 | it might just produce a binary |
| 02:52.17 | roothorick | it doesn't have a makefile at all |
| 02:52.23 | acx0 | lol |
| 02:52.25 | roothorick | which makes since actually since it's written in Perl |
| 02:52.43 | roothorick | a lot of packages will have a make install anyway though |
| 02:52.54 | acx0 | can't you just put it in /usr/local/bin then? not sure if it's a good idea though |
| 02:52.57 | Sue | since i've never tried, how is kde on testing at the moment |
| 02:53.06 | roothorick | that's what I'm thinking right now |
| 02:53.11 | roothorick | seems better than the alternatives |
| 02:53.26 | roothorick | but it does mean I won't get updates at all |
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| 02:56.14 | roothorick | Okay, question |
| 02:56.30 | roothorick | during this mess I did an apt-get build-dep which installed about fifty packages |
| 02:56.38 | roothorick | I just removed the original package with apt-get remove |
| 02:56.48 | roothorick | but apt-get autoremove doesn't see anything that needs to be removed |
| 02:57.09 | roothorick | why? did it just update packages or something? |
| 02:58.46 | acx0 | try using aptitude |
| 02:59.35 | acx0 | just 'aptitude install' without any package name should execute any pending actions like removing unneeded dependencies |
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| 03:01.43 | craigevil | they aren't really unused, you can use deborphan to remove them, deborphan | xargs apt-get -y remove --purge |
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| 03:03.20 | roothorick | "aptitude install" wants to... install libcurl4-openssl-dev but that causes a conflict, so it wants to remove a package, or not install it... huh? |
| 03:03.54 | roothorick | I said don't install, as I have a custom-compiled libcurl install, and it... did nothing |
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| 03:09.16 | roothorick | something I've still been fuzzy on |
| 03:09.34 | roothorick | when I install a package with "apt-get install", how does it remember I want that package, so it's not removed with autoremove? |
| 03:09.41 | roothorick | and can I edit that database? |
| 03:10.49 | acx0 | i believe it's marked as manually installed, and iirc, dependencies are marked as 'automatically installed' |
| 03:11.14 | acx0 | you can see this with 'aptitude search <package>' |
| 03:11.21 | acx0 | i don't think apt-cache search shows it by default |
| 03:11.27 | roothorick | is there a way I could get a list of all "manually installed" packages? |
| 03:11.46 | acx0 | i think it was something like 'aptitude search ~i' |
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| 03:13.17 | roothorick | okay, and finally, can I change that mark without outright removing or reinstalling the package? |
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| 03:13.59 | acx0 | not sure, my knowledge of aptitude is minimal |
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| 03:14.54 | Amarande | acx0: you should have said your aptitude with aptitude. :D |
| 03:15.09 | acx0 | lol |
| 03:15.15 | Amarande | ahhh, the fun of Linux package names |
| 03:15.20 | Amarande | I still remember one gem from back in the day |
| 03:15.26 | Amarande | "SeX is still under development, and is known to be buggy." |
| 03:15.28 | acx0 | roothorick, i know it's possible, i'm just trying to remember how |
| 03:16.40 | roothorick | the manpage says it's "install <package>&m" but I'm trying it, and it doesn't get the package selected by autoremove |
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| 03:16.52 | roothorick | er, &M |
| 03:17.44 | roothorick | or "markauto" |
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| 03:20.08 | roothorick | ...okay, I really don't understand dependencies in debian at all |
| 03:20.23 | roothorick | "depends" is pretty obvious, but recommends? suggests? |
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| 03:20.58 | fpu | hello |
| 03:21.30 | fpu | I am trying to set keypad using kbd driver in xorg.conf |
| 03:21.37 | fpu | it has 7 buttons |
| 03:21.42 | fpu | and xev reacts to them; it shows events |
| 03:21.56 | fpu | but they are completely random |
| 03:22.14 | fpu | One time it's "Backspace", other it's "Xf86VolUp" |
| 03:22.23 | fpu | I'm at loss here |
| 03:22.48 | roothorick | it might be firing both events and you're just seeing the one it processes last |
| 03:24.28 | fpu | keycodes are different |
| 03:24.31 | fpu | even when I press the same button |
| 03:24.37 | fpu | and when I'm not pressing any button |
| 03:24.42 | fpu | there are ongoing events |
| 03:24.43 | fpu | called |
| 03:24.59 | fpu | keycode 8 |
| 03:25.01 | fpu | keysym 0x0 |
| 03:25.07 | fpu | NoSymbol |
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| 03:27.23 | fpu | also I have tried setting it up by lirc |
| 03:27.29 | fpu | no xorg |
| 03:27.43 | fpu | irrecord had a bit of trouble |
| 03:28.00 | fpu | because I had to press them over and over very fast for it to register the "gap" |
| 03:28.14 | fpu | and holding by button creates only one event |
| 03:28.29 | fpu | but overall created lircd.conf |
| 03:28.30 | fpu | with my keys |
| 03:28.40 | fpu | irw though shows nothing when lircd is running |
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| 03:43.09 | moniker326 | I installed my ssl cert for my site and now the site seems to have issues showing up correctly. only shows my text and doesn't like my links or pictures/graphics (css I'm thinking) What is the best way to diagnos. Nothing odd (errors) in error logs either |
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| 03:46.13 | roothorick | moniker326: browser is blocking non-SSL content for security reasons? |
| 03:47.00 | moniker326 | the ssl was a wildcard so not sure.. if it's the browser it's going on in ANY browser I've tried |
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| 05:04.21 | voltagex | http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/08/msg00120.html Any ideas about this? |
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| 05:17.37 | babloo | hi please help me in setting up wifi in debian squeeze for bradcom b4313 |
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| 05:25.00 | babloo | ? any one here |
| 05:25.19 | MrFrood | !tell babloo about b43 |
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| 05:30.29 | jokar | o/ all |
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| 05:30.43 | jokar | how changa partition permission in debian? |
| 05:31.15 | jokar | change* |
| 05:31.42 | goshawk1 | jokar, what do you mean by partition permission? |
| 05:32.03 | MrFrood | jdo you mean dirs?? |
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| 05:32.12 | MrFrood | er jokar |
| 05:32.14 | jokar | no |
| 05:32.30 | jokar | i want change my partition permission for full write |
| 05:32.47 | tensorpudding | jokar: what type of partition is it |
| 05:33.01 | jokar | i use fstab for auto mount my partition NTFS And EXT4 |
| 05:33.14 | tensorpudding | jokar: you need to install the ntfs configuration tool |
| 05:33.24 | jokar | i use ntfs-3g |
| 05:33.54 | jokar | i want,when my debian is loaded my partition is mounted as full write |
| 05:34.06 | goshawk1 | the ntfs partition? |
| 05:34.11 | jokar | yeah |
| 05:34.18 | tensorpudding | the ntfs config tool is easier to use, but if you read the manual for mount.ntfs it'll probably tell you how to determine permissions |
| 05:34.24 | Alam_Squeeze | then you need to write an udev rule to change the mode |
| 05:34.30 | tensorpudding | you may want to go to the trouble of mapping NTFS ACLs |
| 05:34.46 | jokar | aha |
| 05:34.54 | jokar | i have some problem with my new hdd |
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| 05:35.14 | riv3t | I installed xosd-bin but there is no man page for it, I want to use amixer with xosd to show a OSD volume bar when I increase / decrease the volume |
| 05:35.16 | jokar | after plug a new hdd my Vbox not work properly |
| 05:35.46 | jokar | o/ goshawk1:can you show me a man page about change permission? |
| 05:36.11 | goshawk1 | jokar, you installed ntfs-3g correct? |
| 05:36.15 | jokar | yeah |
| 05:36.21 | jokar | it work correct |
| 05:36.48 | goshawk1 | jokar, you just cant write to ntfs? |
| 05:37.03 | jokar | yeah but my Vbox cant write in my partition |
| 05:37.19 | jokar | it show me error when i want make new virtual machine |
| 05:37.24 | jokar | Vmware too |
| 05:37.56 | jokar | i think i must change my partition permission to the full write |
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| 05:38.10 | goshawk1 | jokar, oh, you can write to it normally, for example, you can mount it and copy a file to it. you just cant write to it from a vm, is that correct? |
| 05:38.25 | jokar | yeah |
| 05:38.39 | jokar | you right |
| 05:39.14 | goshawk1 | jokar, as far as I know, if you mount with ntfs-3g, umask=0, that gives permissions to everyone for read,write and execute |
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| 05:39.28 | goshawk1 | what does your fstab entry for this mount look like? |
| 05:39.41 | riv3t | how to tell what my mixer device is? not sure if its /dev/mixer or other |
| 05:39.53 | koko_ | hello |
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| 05:40.36 | jokar | o/ goshawk1 :in fstab i write /dev/sda5 /media/d ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 |
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| 05:41.38 | goshawk1 | jokar, that looks right, you should be able to write from that, if I am not mistaken |
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| 05:42.26 | koko_ | there exists a solution for managing data between members of a company in several places on my debian server ? |
| 05:43.00 | jokar | o/ goshawk1:why my vbox can't write in partition? |
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| 05:44.58 | goshawk1 | jokar, can vbox see the partition? |
| 05:45.03 | jokar | o/ goshawk1:when i plug new hdd,my vbox not work!!! |
| 05:46.23 | goshawk1 | jokar, i dont know, dont know much about vbox, but, otherwise you should be able to write to that partition. |
| 05:46.42 | koko_ | there exists a solution for managing data between members of a company in several places on my debian server ? |
| 05:47.51 | goshawk1 | koko_, do you mean you have members of a company in many places and you want to let them share data through your server? |
| 05:49.31 | koko_ | no not really , to share it easy but i search some thing like workflox open souce on debian |
| 05:50.34 | goshawk1 | koko_, like groupware software maybe, is that what you mean? |
| 05:51.24 | koko_ | yeah like that |
| 05:52.27 | goshawk1 | koko_, take a look here: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php |
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| 05:55.07 | koko_ | thanks, it's can be install on my dedicated server and members in several place could use it ? |
| 05:55.43 | goshawk1 | koko_, yup, that's what groupware servers are for. there are others, citadel is a very good one though. |
| 05:56.34 | jokar | o/ goshawk1:thanks |
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| 05:58.00 | aminpy | how can I search "a text" in / recursively? |
| 05:58.10 | koko_ | ok and it good to make it in ssl i think ? |
| 05:58.25 | goshawk1 | koko_, sure |
| 05:58.57 | koko_ | ok i will learn and use |
| 05:59.30 | koko_ | because my company want to pay a soft like that for windows |
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| 05:59.55 | rypervenche | aminpy: I think it's ... |
| 06:00.02 | riv3t | When I kill xmms2d it respawns, why is that and how can I stop it? |
| 06:00.05 | goshawk1 | aminpy, grep -lir "text" * |
| 06:00.06 | rypervenche | aminpy: grep -r "a text" / |
| 06:00.15 | rypervenche | or that |
| 06:00.21 | goshawk1 | :-) sorry |
| 06:00.27 | koko_ | yet there are many open source on debian |
| 06:00.40 | riv3t | Could it be cause of conky? |
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| 06:00.55 | aminpy | goshawk1, what does ir switch do? |
| 06:01.52 | goshawk1 | aminpy, -i = ignore case, -r -rv = recursive |
| 06:03.05 | aminpy | goshawk1, when I run that command I see huge output !!! |
| 06:03.55 | goshawk1 | aminpy, depending on what you are looking for, I would assume that you would |
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| 06:04.14 | aminpy | goshawk1, http://dpaste.com/588456/ |
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| 06:04.39 | goshawk1 | aminpy, you could narrow it down a bit with better wild card use instead of just "*" |
| 06:04.46 | rypervenche | goshawk1: Is there a difference betwen doing / and * in the grep command there? |
| 06:05.19 | goshawk1 | rypervenche, I was just assuming that he was searching from root |
| 06:05.41 | rypervenche | goshawk1: So if I was on root, the commands would have the same output? |
| 06:05.42 | goshawk1 | rypervenche, the * just says "everything" |
| 06:06.15 | goshawk1 | rypervenche, not sure, hang on ... :-) |
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| 06:08.17 | goshawk1 | rypervenche, nope, yours is better |
| 06:08.42 | aminpy | goshawk1, I see very warnings and ... |
| 06:09.13 | goshawk1 | rypervenche, well, I think it is anyways. |
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| 06:10.01 | ribasushi | is there anything in debian that ships with a copy of "ms-dos mbr" ? |
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| 06:11.28 | rypervenche | goshawk1: I can't test it, but I think using "*" it goes in alphabetical order, and just using "/" it doesn't. That's my guess as of right now. Computer is too slow to test it :/ |
| 06:11.29 | aminpy | with this huge output, how can I find my text?! |
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| 06:12.09 | goshawk1 | rypervenche, I'm looking at the two searches and they are very different |
| 06:12.45 | goshawk1 | rypervenche, I used * because I was thinking "search recursively from where I am now on every file" |
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| 06:13.14 | pbase | errors on mounting/formatting the usb drives .. has anyone found a patch? |
| 06:13.33 | goshawk1 | aminpy, I would think that you are going to have to narrow your search by expanding your search criteria |
| 06:14.05 | goshawk1 | aminpy, what text are you looking for? |
| 06:14.19 | aminpy | gholamalibarare |
| 06:14.52 | aminpy | goshawk1, I'm looking for "gholamalibarare" |
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| 06:16.19 | goshawk1 | aminpy, are you root when you search? |
| 06:17.06 | aminpy | goshawk1, both |
| 06:17.22 | aminpy | goshawk1, both create huge output |
| 06:17.34 | goshawk1 | right |
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| 06:18.51 | aminpy | goshawk1, how can I fix this? |
| 06:19.45 | goshawk1 | aminpy, not sure, running as either root or a normal user, I am not seeing the output that you are |
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| 06:21.37 | goshawk1 | rypervenche, just for testing, I removed the "r" option and just searched from / using the "*" for text in a file that I knew was there and it returned the filename, however, using the same search with "/" returned nothing. |
| 06:22.03 | aminpy | goshawk1, http://dpaste.com/588464/ |
| 06:22.35 | goshawk1 | aminpy, why are you using just "-r"? |
| 06:22.38 | pbase | ok found the solution to fix the usb drive errors for mounting - http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=60190 |
| 06:22.52 | rypervenche | aminpy: Use -lir |
| 06:23.10 | goshawk1 | aminpy, grep -r "gholamalibarare" / |
| 06:23.27 | goshawk1 | aminpy, that's from the link you just sent |
| 06:23.40 | goshawk1 | aminpy, you will see tons of useless output like that |
| 06:24.31 | aminpy | rypervenche, goshawk1 http://dpaste.com/588467/ |
| 06:25.35 | aminpy | I just want to see just files that they have my text |
| 06:25.41 | aminpy | how can I do that? |
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| 06:26.23 | goshawk1 | aminpy, not sure why you are seeing all the warnings, I get clean output when I search this way |
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| 06:27.23 | rypervenche | Ditto. Maybe try the -s option as well? |
| 06:27.24 | goshawk1 | aminpy, what happens if you add the -s switch? |
| 06:27.37 | goshawk1 | hehe |
| 06:27.41 | aminpy | w8 |
| 06:29.22 | aminpy | goshawk1, I don't see any output, but I wait for find my text |
| 06:29.31 | aminpy | I'm waiting* |
| 06:29.45 | goshawk1 | aminpy, yeah, it could take a while |
| 06:30.17 | aminpy | goshawk1, what does -s swith do? |
| 06:30.27 | goshawk1 | aminpy, no error messages |
| 06:30.33 | aminpy | aha :D |
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| 06:37.44 | federic | I have a conflict here: http://nopaste.info/84e965c2d4_nl.html |
| 06:38.15 | federic | (multimedia, libx264) |
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| 06:45.39 | aminpy | goshawk1, thanks it works |
| 06:45.51 | goshawk1 | aminpy, good :-) |
| 06:47.03 | federic | anyone can help me... what's the deal with mplayer compilation & libx264, thanks. |
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| 07:22.32 | voltagex | http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/08/msg00120.html Any ideas about this? |
| 07:22.40 | Ozzapoo | What would be the best way to secure my SSL private key (permissions wise) so that apache can read it, but nobody else? |
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| 07:28.42 | voltagex | is there a quick way to download multiple projects from http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/ |
| 07:30.41 | wols | Ozzapoo: permission 600 and owner www-data:www-data |
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| 07:35.42 | dddbmt | Hi guys, If I have this command: "scp -r myfolder <destination-ip>:/var/www/myfolder". Will it overwrite the files if they allready exists on <destination-ip> ? |
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| 07:36.32 | asarch | I had to re-install my system and now every time I shutdown I get a kernel panic. Is there any way to check the "post-mortem" log? |
| 07:36.56 | asarch | I would like to report that problem |
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| 07:38.19 | wols | what does the kernel panic say? normally there is no log since the kernel has well panicked and can't do anything anymore, including writing to disk |
| 07:38.28 | wols | you could save it by using a serial console for example |
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| 07:41.02 | asarch | Would a screen shot (from an external camera device) help? |
| 07:42.04 | Bushmills | dddbmt: if permissions are such that overwriting is possible, they will be overwritten |
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| 07:42.48 | dddbmt | Bushmills, if the user I'm scp'ing with has overwrite permissions? |
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| 07:43.24 | Bushmills | if the already present files are writeable by user |
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| 07:44.59 | Gokee2 | Hello everyone, I seem to have somehow locked up my USB devices. I unplugged my USB mouse while testing and found out it will not work in any USB port now. Anything command that has to do with USB seems to hang. I just tried "modprobe -rf ehci_hcd" and it hung as well. Is there any way to force a reset of the USB drivers other then to restart the whole computer? |
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| 07:54.55 | ckop64 | hello, Ive created a bootable pendrive with debian-installer (testing netinst x64) on it. I'd like to use it as a desktop system (once I installed it), and I'd like to ask if there is an option during the installation process to select XFCE as the DE of the installed environment. |
| 07:57.35 | p_quarles | ckop64: not exactly; the netinstall image uses tasksel to customize the installation; you can select the "desktop environment" task, but it's just Gnome; to do XFCE you would need to install without a desktop and use APT to install the desktop later |
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| 07:58.12 | popkill | p_quarles: mmmm i install other desktops with the netinstall image... |
| 07:58.49 | popkill | in expert mode, you can see "alternatives desktops..." |
| 07:58.54 | p_quarles | yeah, you can install whatever you like with APT; but tasksel doesn't give you that option during the install process; at least as far as I recall |
| 07:59.02 | p_quarles | aha; didn't know that, my mistake |
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| 07:59.29 | ckop64 | p_quarles: thats what i was afraid of. :P (I'm not too familias with debian and its derivatives). Where can I find a step-by-step guide on how to install a debian desktop from a core system? |
| 07:59.39 | p_quarles | ckop64: listen to popkill |
| 08:00.26 | ckop64 | popkill: cool, ill check it out |
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| 08:00.40 | ckop64 | thanks for the help guys |
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| 08:00.45 | p_quarles | you can also just run apt-get install xfce4 |
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| 08:02.37 | popkill | ckop64: check the option of alternative desktop, is the first thing you must select |
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| 08:04.39 | ckop64 | popkill: ok, the image on the oendrive was created by UnetBootIn. and there is actually no menu at the beginning of the installation, the language selection is the first screen. |
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| 08:06.56 | popkill | ckop64: i dont know ... i guess you should al least have a screen to select suck expert installation mode.. |
| 08:07.24 | popkill | ckop64: this should be the first screen |
| 08:08.03 | ckop64 | there is none, just UnetBootins bootloader, so I guess I'm gonna use another image. Which one shoul I put on a pendrive? Is there a specific USB *.iso image? |
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| 08:09.44 | wols | ckop64: do not install the "desktop" task at the and and simply install xorg and xfce after the installation with apt |
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| 08:10.07 | wols | there is no specific iso, and they are all hybrid images too |
| 08:10.21 | wols | there is however a CD1 which by default installs xfce |
| 08:10.31 | popkill | that is another option, simplest |
| 08:11.19 | ckop64 | ok, thank you guys. see you later. :) |
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| 08:12.55 | shadow193193 | HI all Im trying to configure my xorg and got a problem...my graphic card driver had been installed with an error, I tried to install it with sgfxi script, how to reinstall driver? |
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| 08:13.24 | wols | !tell shadow193193 about errors |
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| 08:16.19 | shadow193193 | http://pastebin.pl/46379 |
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| 08:17.25 | babloo | problem in installing wl |
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| 08:17.53 | wols | shadow193193: this paste is useless since it doesn't show the actual error |
| 08:17.57 | wols | !wayttd shadow193193 |
| 08:17.57 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, shadow193193? |
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| 08:19.01 | shadow193193 | Im trying to use my openbox,but it runs wrong now:(earlier that required that driver... |
| 08:19.12 | babloo | wols: problem while wifi configuration |
| 08:19.16 | babloo | modprobe wl |
| 08:19.28 | wols | shadow193193: so how does it run "wrong"? |
| 08:19.48 | babloo | FATAL: Module wl not found. FATAL: Error running install command for wl >> tried to install it it installed correctly |
| 08:19.49 | shadow193193 | lagging..errors in console |
| 08:20.08 | shadow193193 | how can I paste my log? |
| 08:20.14 | wols | babloo: where on disk is wl.ko? |
| 08:20.19 | wols | !paste |
| 08:20.19 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 08:21.01 | babloo | ok wols |
| 08:21.20 | babloo | wols wats that wl.ko? |
| 08:21.32 | wols | babloo: your wl kernel module file |
| 08:21.40 | wols | babloo: the one you want to load |
| 08:21.47 | babloo | how to check that |
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| 08:24.13 | kuznetzvo | is there a particular raid controller i should stay away from building a new debian server from scratch, or are most of them pretty much kosher? |
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| 08:24.52 | shadow193193 | ok, here is log : http://pastebin.pl/46380 |
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| 08:25.00 | wols | kuznetzvo: depends what you call a raid controller exactly |
| 08:25.15 | babloo | wols u r asking for wat ? |
| 08:25.29 | wols | babloo: I am asking for where on your disk the wl.ko file is |
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| 08:26.15 | kuznetzvo | eg on newegg, i see a lot of boards describe the raid support saying "Intel Matrix Storage [for windows only]" ; that's what bothers me. |
| 08:26.27 | wols | shadow193193: I don't support shit like sgfxi. I ask what your current problem with your xorg and openbox are. if you want sgfxi support you are in the wrong channel. as the author of this malware |
| 08:26.40 | babloo | wols: its not there |
| 08:26.41 | wols | *ask the author |
| 08:27.00 | kuznetzvo | also, good evening wols. it's nice to see you again.n |
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| 08:27.20 | wols | babloo: either you have wl.ko somewhere or your question doesn't make sense. for modprobe to be able to load a kernel module it has to be somewhere under /lib/modules. so I ask again: where is it? |
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| 08:27.32 | wols | kuznetzvo: that's not raid |
| 08:27.41 | shadow193193 | wols : then if you can tell me how to reinstall my ati driver |
| 08:28.00 | wols | kuznetzvo: unless you buy a real server board which costa around 100-200 bucks more than your typical board, you don't get a raid controller. ever |
| 08:28.03 | kuznetzvo | are they basically saying intel is providing windows support with drivers for software raid but NOT at the hardware level, which would just be a volume that linux or whatever could access? |
| 08:28.19 | wols | shadow193193: ati = xorg ati or ati = fglrx ? |
| 08:28.30 | wols | !tell kuznetzvo about fakeraid |
| 08:28.32 | shadow193193 | fglrx |
| 08:28.35 | kuznetzvo | i'm looking between supermicro, tyan, and asus offerings atm |
| 08:28.37 | shadow193193 | from ati site |
| 08:28.37 | kuznetzvo | ty |
| 08:28.40 | shadow193193 | .run file |
| 08:29.09 | wols | shadow193193: unsupported here. it breaks debian. why do you think you need this driver? |
| 08:29.18 | wols | shadow193193: if you want support for this driver: #ati I think |
| 08:30.12 | shadow193193 | Then what driver I need? I just want to run openbox on my laptop. I can watch hd videos without lags but openbox is lagging... |
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| 08:30.22 | wols | shadow193193: debian supports a properly working fglrx in non-free. anything that uses ati .run driver including your sgfxi is unsupported |
| 08:30.32 | wols | shadow193193: what videochip do you have? |
| 08:30.49 | shadow193193 | Im watching that in windows:( |
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| 08:31.12 | shadow193193 | Wols: then how to uninstall this driver? |
| 08:31.21 | wols | device manager tells you the PCI ID. and people usually know what videocard they have: look at your invoice when you bought your hardware for example |
| 08:31.33 | wols | shadow193193: I don't know how to uninstall it and I don't care either |
| 08:32.29 | wols | kuznetzvo: any ICHxxR "raid" chip is useless and you want to use Linux software raid then |
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| 08:32.59 | kuznetzvo | ty |
| 08:33.19 | wols | kuznetzvo: same would apply to nvidia and amd raid chips on mobos btw |
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| 08:36.55 | wols | babloo: have you found your wl file? |
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| 08:37.47 | babloo | wols search is in progress |
| 08:38.27 | wols | babloo: it will be probably in more than one place |
| 08:39.01 | babloo | ok let me try again |
| 08:39.27 | shadow193193 | wols: how can I install fglrx driver which are you talking about? |
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| 08:39.56 | wols | !fglrx |
| 08:39.57 | dpkg | fglrx is the ATI/AMD proprietary display driver for Radeon HD and FireGL graphics cards. As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chips prior to the R600 series (i.e. models up to and including the Radeon X1950) are supported; use the <radeon> or <radeonhd> drivers for device support. To install fglrx, ask me about <fglrx dkms>; see <fglrx lenny> for oldstable. http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 08:40.18 | wols | shadow193193: /msg dpkg fglrx dkms |
| 08:40.25 | wols | if you run squeeze or later that is |
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| 08:44.41 | Sebo | Hi, I need to install an old *.deb at a fresh squeeze. It is seed the package depends at libpq4 (>=8.1.4) and postgresql-libs (>=8.1.4) hovewer I know it will work with some packages from the current repo when some symlinks where created. Therefore I need to find out which packages do I really need and which symlinks do I need to create. How can I investigate this? |
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| 08:45.31 | Sebo | Any idea? |
| 08:45.35 | boudiccas | Sebo; it might help if you told us what the old package is |
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| 08:45.59 | Sebo | I can even post ypu the one :) |
| 08:46.19 | Sebo | Its name is: smabi-demo_1.7-0_i386.deb |
| 08:46.31 | boudiccas | thank you |
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| 08:46.37 | Sebo | I'll upload it to some web srv in a minute :) |
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| 08:51.58 | wols | !info libpq4 |
| 08:52.08 | wols | ,versionslibpq4 |
| 08:52.11 | wols | ,versions libpq4 |
| 08:52.12 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libpq4' was found in i386. |
| 08:52.25 | wols | ,versions postgresql-libs |
| 08:52.26 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'postgresql-libs' was found in i386. |
| 08:52.44 | wols | Sebo: no symlink ever will help you |
| 08:53.25 | Sebo | I've uploaded the smabi-demo_1.7-0_i386.deb package to http://seeyour.net.pl/smabi-demo_1.7-0_i386.deb |
| 08:53.56 | wols | Sebo: you can either not install your software via dpkg or you can use equivs |
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| 08:55.21 | Sebo | But I had this innstaled and it worked with some symlink (I do not remember which) before my old HDD had crashed. |
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| 08:56.01 | wols | Sebo: there is no libpq4 and no postgresql-libs in debian so a simply symlink never has worked in any debian |
| 08:56.12 | wols | well, not in any debian of lenny and later |
| 08:56.24 | wols | dpkg will have refused to install that deb |
| 08:56.24 | dpkg | wish i knew, wols |
| 08:57.15 | kuznetzvo | let's see if i got this right |
| 08:57.17 | kuznetzvo | so when i installed Server2k3 on old dell poweredge with dell Serve-raid built in and set up raid1 in bios... when i installed the drivers, the drivers basically instruct the OS/installation how to handle the software raid aspect? |
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| 08:57.39 | babloo | wols: didnt find wl.ko but wlp.ko i found lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/uwb/wlp/wlp.ko |
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| 08:59.18 | wols | babloo: last time, where on your disk is a wl.ko. for modprobe to oad it it must be under /lib/modules, but somwhere else there must be a wl.ko or your whole question is meaningless |
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| 08:59.32 | Sebo | Is it at least possible to check which files my smabi-demo_1.7-0_i386.deb is really expecting? |
| 08:59.56 | wols | kuznetzvo: dell serveraid is not done via a ICHxxR intel chip, is it? |
| 09:00.22 | wols | Sebo: dpkg -i <deb>. it will tell you what .deb packages it wants |
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| 09:00.35 | Sebo | That I know |
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| 09:00.54 | babloo | wols: what can i do if i can't find it :( |
| 09:00.55 | wols | Sebo: there is no way to see what the binaries inside that .deb do except with debugging |
| 09:01.12 | wols | babloo: what did you do to make it work so far? |
| 09:01.20 | Sebo | nad I can always usse some --force-deps to make the dpkg not to check it like this |
| 09:01.22 | babloo | i was trying to install wifi for b4313 as i got wiki help to chcek |
| 09:01.23 | wols | babloo: you must have done something to install wl to your system |
| 09:01.28 | kuznetzvo | it looks like they make their own controllers, call 'em "PERC" power edge raid control. pretty hefty cards with sodimms for cache, etc. I think those might be hardware level, good performance |
| 09:01.43 | wols | kuznetzvo: yes there are hardware raid |
| 09:02.00 | kuznetzvo | so fuck anything that's ICHxxR ? :) |
| 09:02.01 | wols | *these |
| 09:02.08 | babloo | so wl installation i was facing problem so installed wl -beta |
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| 09:02.32 | Sebo | And lomething like checking which files it is trying to open? |
| 09:02.41 | wols | kuznetzvo: not necessarily. if you can live with linux software raid (which is often superior since it works in any linux. with real hardware raid you will need the exact same controller again if the old one dies) |
| 09:03.00 | wols | babloo: I asked you what you actually did on your command line |
| 09:03.09 | Sebo | i.e something like lsof but narrowed to the given process. |
| 09:03.25 | babloo | installation successful but it cant find wl module to load |
| 09:03.33 | kuznetzvo | I grew up studying windows, with their lovely little dynamic disk invention. Thus, I learned to be very afraid of using software raid for anything other than annoying people who have to manage the system. |
| 09:03.34 | babloo | modprobe wl |
| 09:03.39 | babloo | wols ^^ |
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| 09:04.11 | kuznetzvo | I infer that you mean to say that linux software raid is much more.. efficient |
| 09:04.29 | wols | babloo: before that. you had to extract the wl.ko file or compiled it or whatever |
| 09:05.07 | babloo | did nothing just passed the command apt-get install wl then modprobe wl |
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| 09:05.36 | wols | ,versions wl |
| 09:05.37 | judd | Package wl on i386 -- lenny: 2.14.0-9; sid: 2.14.0-12; squeeze: 2.14.0-12; wheezy: 2.14.0-12 |
| 09:05.44 | babloo | can u give me a link to check the details how to compile it wols |
| 09:05.59 | wols | babloo: what debian version are you on? |
| 09:06.10 | babloo | squeeze |
| 09:06.44 | wols | ,info wl |
| 09:06.45 | judd | Package wl (mail, extra) in squeeze/i386: mail/news reader supporting IMAP for emacsen. Version: 2.14.0-12; Size: 897.4k; Installed: 3916k; Homepage: http://www.gohome.org/wl/ |
| 09:07.00 | wols | babloo: wl is a mail and news reader. it's NOT a wlan driver |
| 09:07.02 | wols | !wl |
| 09:07.02 | dpkg | wl is Broadcom's proprietary wireless LAN driver (x86, x86-64 only). Supports BCM4312 LP-PHY (802.11g) and BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225 (802.11n) chipsets; 43227 and 43228 are supported in <testing>. Monitor mode is not available. To install, see http://wiki.debian.org/wl . See also <brcm80211>. For support of other Broadcom PCI(-E) chipsets, ask me about <b43>. |
| 09:07.43 | wols | babloo: see that wiki link? use it! |
| 09:08.20 | babloo | wols did the same stuff |
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| 09:09.01 | wols | babloo: that wiki article never ever said anything about "apt-get install wl" |
| 09:10.29 | babloo | yes but while loading wl it said couldnt find so installed it |
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| 09:11.20 | Sebo | And is there a way to see the install script of the given *.deb? |
| 09:11.34 | wols | babloo: dpkg -l |grep broadcom-sta |
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| 09:12.13 | wols | Sebo: /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.* |
| 09:14.00 | babloo | http://pastebin.com/4U4WWkCb >> wols |
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| 09:14.58 | wols | babloo: then start again from point 3 in the wiki howot |
| 09:15.34 | wols | babloo: and this time, report any errors you encounter |
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| 09:15.52 | babloo | wols its given a error |
| 09:16.00 | wols | !errors |
| 09:16.00 | dpkg | If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too. Please don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin instead; ask me about <pastebin>. |
| 09:17.01 | popkill | wols: i have a broadcom also (4312) and use b43, it would be better to use wl? |
| 09:17.20 | wols | popkill: 4312 != 4313 |
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| 09:19.22 | popkill | i thought he had the same chipset :S |
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| 09:20.47 | babloo | wols: http://pastebin.com/mHDbR8N6 |
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| 09:21.53 | babloo | brb lunch |
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| 09:35.31 | ckop64 | hello people, I'd like to thank you again for the help you provided, the install worked flawlessly, even the upgrade from stable to testing went smoothly. :) |
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| 09:40.58 | babilen | ckop64: We welcome you in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net :) |
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| 09:46.28 | babloo | babloo: back |
| 09:46.52 | babloo | wols: did u check the log ? |
| 09:47.26 | ckop64 | babilen, thanks =) |
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| 09:49.14 | wols | babloo: I did. debian only provides i386 package for your driver when it should provide a amd64 one too :( |
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| 09:50.12 | babloo | so wat should i do know ? |
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| 09:50.48 | babloo | wicd instalkation will be help full ? |
| 09:50.53 | babloo | installation |
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| 09:51.33 | wols | no. you have not driver wicd can work on. easiest is to reinstall debian and use i386 instead of amd64 |
| 09:52.02 | babloo | ok |
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| 09:52.30 | wols | failing that you would need to get the wl broadcom-sta-source package from sid, install it and replace the source code there with the amd64 version of it from broadcom.com and then run module-assistant on it |
| 09:52.35 | babloo | but i used i386 dvd itself |
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| 09:53.40 | amero | hey |
| 09:53.46 | richo | how do I undo an aptitude forbid-version ? |
| 09:53.57 | wols | babloo: dpkg --print-architecture |
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| 09:54.01 | amero | anyone here ever build a deb package from source? |
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| 09:54.20 | richo | amero: I have a few times |
| 09:54.24 | wols | !tell amero about anyone |
| 09:55.21 | babloo | wols its i386 |
| 09:55.44 | richo | if I do forbid version, then apt-cache policy shouldn't show that version as candidate, right? |
| 09:55.59 | wols | babloo: do you run a amd64 kernel? |
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| 09:56.34 | babloo | no idea wols new to linux >> linux noob |
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| 09:56.45 | mjt | uname -a tells what? |
| 09:56.47 | wols | babloo: uname -a |
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| 09:58.13 | amero | well im fairly new to this whole deb packing thing. i have a bit of problem with building a deb for collectd. i can't figure out why the resulted deb contains all the small plugins that i have explicitly disabled during configuring |
| 09:58.13 | babloo | wols >> Linux babloo 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 |
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| 09:58.33 | wols | babloo: install a 686 kernel then and do the module assistant run again |
| 09:58.47 | wols | babloo: reboot after installing the kernel btw. you must run the 686 kernel |
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| 09:59.44 | G0d-servant | how to enable gparted to create JFS file system? |
| 09:59.46 | babloo | wols it would be great how could i do it >> link referals will do |
| 10:00.39 | wols | apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 and then boot from the new kernel |
| 10:02.16 | jokar | o/ all |
| 10:02.29 | jokar | excuse me do you work with truecrypt? |
| 10:02.46 | jokar | i want Encrypting my external hdd |
| 10:03.17 | babilen | jokar: I would recommend dm-crypt -- /msg dpkg dm-crypt |
| 10:03.48 | wols | babloo: does dm-crypt work across OSes? |
| 10:03.55 | krakrjak | jokar: also googlable as LUKS |
| 10:03.55 | wols | !truecrypt |
| 10:03.55 | dpkg | TrueCrypt is a <non-free> (under DFSG's definitions) implementation of on-the-fly disk encryption that also attempts plausible deniability, something not found in other OTFE systems like <EncFS> and <LUKS>. Not in Debian, RFP in bug #413070. http://forums.truecrypt.org/ http://www.truecrypt.org/ |
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| 10:04.26 | babilen | wols: Is that necessary? |
| 10:04.50 | jokar | my hdd by defaults has a software for do it,and when i unlock my hdd it create one partition,and one drive.one partition has my file and another drive has unlocker software |
| 10:04.53 | wols | babilen: for a external hdd, imho yes |
| 10:05.27 | jokar | TrueCrypt work like WD software? |
| 10:05.44 | jokar | it create a drive like cd-rom and one partition? |
| 10:05.44 | wols | no |
| 10:05.46 | babilen | wols: Oh, ok. I am using it on my external drives without a problem -- but I know what you mean, so lets stop this argument :) |
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| 10:06.51 | babilen | wols: But it seems to be at least supported under Windows http://www.freeotfe.org/ |
| 10:07.10 | babilen | No idea about OS X though |
| 10:07.17 | jokar | hey |
| 10:07.21 | jokar | i use WD hdd |
| 10:07.46 | krakrjak | jokar: the make of the hdd is not important |
| 10:07.52 | wols | jokar: and the proprietary crap from WD is not supported under Linux |
| 10:08.06 | jokar | yeah,it is not support linux |
| 10:08.07 | wols | or rather, WD doesn't support Linux |
| 10:08.27 | jokar | i need a disk encrypte that work under windows and linux |
| 10:08.29 | babilen | I still recommend dm-crypt / luks |
| 10:08.38 | Digdilem | jokar, truecrypt ? |
| 10:08.44 | jokar | nah |
| 10:08.45 | babilen | dm-crypt! |
| 10:08.49 | krakrjak | I'm with babilen, but truecrypt is a good way forward too. |
| 10:09.02 | jokar | dm-crypt / luks is work onder windows too? |
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| 10:09.40 | babilen | yes, i've just said that -- http://www.freeotfe.org/ (note that I have no personal experience with windows and freeotfe) |
| 10:10.07 | jokar | do you see WD software? |
| 10:10.12 | jokar | o/ babilen:: |
| 10:10.21 | jokar | it make a cdrom drive and hdd drive |
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| 10:10.45 | babilen | Ah, and? |
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| 10:11.07 | jokar | i use cd-rom drive for unlock my hdd |
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| 10:12.09 | babilen | You need a CD-ROM to unlock your external HDD? |
| 10:12.19 | babloo | brb |
| 10:13.02 | wols | babilen: not need, but it's the way WD chose to deliver the encryption software |
| 10:13.33 | jokar | o/ wols:yeah |
| 10:13.39 | babilen | Why is WD's software relevant now? I have the feeling I need coffee again ... bbl |
| 10:13.41 | wols | similar to the 3G sticks that provide a usb CDROM device for the (windows) software needed to use the stick |
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| 10:14.10 | babilen | usbmodeswitch should take care of the cd-rom thingie though. |
| 10:14.14 | jaakkos | What's the deal with deprecating make-kpkg in favor of deb-pkg? With 3.0.1, Documentation/lguest is missing and make-kpkg doesn't work, which is widely reported. however, why the hell does deb-pkg create over 100MB initrd images?! I ran out of boot partition space and even booting is much slower because of that. With make-kpkg the initrd is around 10M. |
| 10:14.18 | wols | jokar: you create two partitions. one unencrypted with the software you need to install to access and the othe with the encrypted data |
| 10:14.34 | babilen | jaakkos: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html |
| 10:15.00 | wols | jaakkos: what is deb-pkg ? |
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| 10:15.49 | jaakkos | wols: apparently we should use deb-pkg instead of make-kpkg these days. on some of my systems, recent kernels don't compile with make-kpkg without hacking Documentation. |
| 10:16.13 | jaakkos | funny enough on some of my system, they still compile... don't really know why. |
| 10:16.18 | babilen | jaakkos: And you can also create a slim initrd, but I can't find the documentation right now |
| 10:16.19 | nevyn | make deb-pkg works for me. |
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| 10:16.35 | jaakkos | for me it creates 100MB initrd images which is not fine. |
| 10:16.36 | wols | jaakkos: what IS "deb-pkg"? |
| 10:16.46 | jaakkos | wols: kernel makefile target |
| 10:16.54 | wols | *shudder* |
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| 10:17.09 | jokar | o/ wols:thanks |
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| 10:20.48 | babloo | wols: updated as per the direction and rebooted |
| 10:21.17 | wols | babloo: now do step3 again in the wiki article. and pray it runs without error :) |
| 10:21.28 | babloo | uname :: 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 10:21.53 | wols | babloo: good |
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| 10:22.45 | babloo | iam done :) |
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| 10:23.52 | wols | babloo: did m-a work now? |
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| 10:24.02 | babloo | yes |
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| 10:24.12 | Nirgal | What is the best way to name a release candidate version for 1.0? 1.0rc1 is greater than 1.0. Is 1.0~rc1 the correct way? |
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| 10:24.14 | sajjadG | ho to all |
| 10:24.24 | babilen | wols: no reason to shudder, it is officially recommended by the kernel team (see the kernel-handbook I linked earlier) |
| 10:24.50 | babilen | Nirgal: yes, but you probably want #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net for questions like this |
| 10:24.50 | sajjadG | is there a program that can tell how much each program is using the internet? |
| 10:24.58 | krakrjak | Nirgal: yes 1.0~rc1 |
| 10:25.12 | Nirgal | thank you :) |
| 10:25.50 | sajjadG | system monitor says the total traffic but i want the details. what program and how much? |
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| 10:26.19 | babilen | Nirgal: ah, sorry if my "yes" wasn't clear :-/ |
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| 10:26.27 | wols | babilen: just because some DDs or teams say something doesn't make it right. see the recently discussed decnet issue |
| 10:26.35 | Markosny | Hi guys, can someone explain to me why if I run by terminal "mail address@domain.tld" he asks me the subject and then seems like all is blocked? |
| 10:26.36 | babilen | wols: +100 |
| 10:26.56 | Markosny | I must exit by pressing 2 times ctrl+c |
| 10:27.15 | Markosny | on logs there isn't nothing that interests mails... |
| 10:28.36 | krakrjak | Markonsy: that's the way the mail program works. It asks for the subject and expects you to type the body of the email followed by EOF ^d |
| 10:29.05 | krakrjak | Markonsy: try the mail command again. Give a subject and type in your message then enter a newline followed by ctrl-d. |
| 10:29.17 | Markosny | mhm ok I try it |
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| 10:29.46 | Markosny | yeah it works! sorry |
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| 10:30.17 | Markosny | bye and thanks a lot ;) |
| 10:30.30 | krakrjak | Markosny: everyone has to learn some time... you can also use a file for the mail body and run mail something@somewhere.tld < message |
| 10:30.35 | krakrjak | dang... |
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| 10:38.41 | tuv | great. collectd is not in testing |
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| 10:38.58 | sajjadG | is there any software that can tell the detailed on use of internet traffic ? |
| 10:39.23 | p_quarles | sajjadG: wireshark |
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| 10:40.41 | sajjadG | p_quarles: thanks :) |
| 10:41.08 | p_quarles | np :) |
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| 10:41.59 | wols | sajjadG: you don't want to use wireshark... |
| 10:42.21 | jemadux | hi .. how to make looks the gtk apps in qt ?? i running the testing |
| 10:42.23 | p_quarles | hehe; it will definitely give you details |
| 10:42.23 | sajjadG | wols:why? |
| 10:42.58 | wols | sajjadG: it will give you the content of every single package you transmit or receive. moer than you ever wanted |
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| 10:43.36 | p_quarles | wols: in fairness, you can set it with the parameters you like; if you run it with no switches, of course, it will do exactly as you say |
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| 10:43.51 | sajjadG | so what should i do then? |
| 10:44.09 | p_quarles | sajjadG: what kind of network info are you specifically looking for? |
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| 10:44.55 | sajjadG | I just want to know the usage of each program |
| 10:45.15 | p_quarles | bandwidth usage you mean? or more detailed? |
| 10:45.27 | p_quarles | or just where each program is connecting? |
| 10:45.49 | p_quarles | netstat -tunva is a useful command that will tell you generally what is going on at the moment |
| 10:45.55 | sajjadG | bandwidth |
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| 10:47.26 | p_quarles | and you wish to monitor bandwidth usage divided into processes? sorry, don't know of anything like that |
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| 10:47.40 | thewanderer1 | sajjadG, perhaps you can write the software yourself, should be possible in C or bash |
| 10:47.43 | sajjadG | p_quarles:yeah |
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| 10:48.34 | sajjadG | thewanderer1:yes of course. but that’s the last action :) |
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| 10:49.41 | Iridos | there's at least one that does it on a per-process basis now |
| 10:50.00 | Iridos | there wasn't for a long time... I was looking for something to do that from 2000 to 2006 or so :) |
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| 10:50.39 | Iridos | found that something like that exists 1-2 years ago... |
| 10:50.49 | Iridos | and by now forgot what it's called... but it'd in Debian :-P |
| 10:51.09 | Iridos | or at least was in Debian in lenny |
| 10:51.13 | sajjadG | perfect :D |
| 10:51.47 | sajjadG | so i should search through 29000 package right :D |
| 10:52.03 | p_quarles | nethog, I think |
| 10:52.10 | Iridos | of course... don't you do that all the time anyway? |
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| 10:52.10 | p_quarles | nethogs* |
| 10:52.16 | Iridos | p_quarles, that sounds like it |
| 10:52.31 | p_quarles | description: " Net top tool grouping bandwidth per process" |
| 10:52.33 | Iridos | right |
| 10:53.01 | ckop64 | hello, have anyone had luck comiling the equinox gtk engine? |
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| 10:53.04 | Iridos | oh... process was the keyword to search for... I typed "program" |
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| 10:54.57 | sajjadG | wireshark can't detect my net interfaces !!! |
| 10:55.09 | thewanderer1 | sajjadG, run as root, repeat |
| 10:55.18 | Iridos | wash, rinse? |
| 10:55.35 | p_quarles | sajjadG: 1) wireshark won't do what you're after; 2) listen to thewanderer1 |
| 10:55.45 | Sebo | hi could you tell me how can i repair my postgres db? I am setting up the debian db srv and by mistake I had restored some db overriding postgres. therefor I'd like to delete all postgres db files and set up the databases again |
| 10:56.06 | Iridos | sajjadG, more like... listen to p_quarles above... it's nethog that does what you asked |
| 10:57.31 | sajjadG | p_quarles,Iridos:i want to just look and see what is waireshark capable of and i'm on nethogs too .same problem :) |
| 10:57.58 | Iridos | same solution, too |
| 10:58.14 | Iridos | also, specify the network device it's supposed to use |
| 10:58.18 | p_quarles | sajjadG: anything trying to capture network data as an unprivileged user is going to be rejected; run as root |
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| 10:58.33 | p_quarles | ifconfig -a to see a list fo network devices |
| 10:58.39 | sajjadG | I'm on root terminal ! |
| 10:59.03 | sajjadG | my active interface is eht1 |
| 10:59.17 | sajjadG | and nethogs is looking for eth0 |
| 10:59.24 | sajjadG | i should change it |
| 10:59.38 | thewanderer1 | sajjadG, read the manpage :P |
| 10:59.54 | sajjadG | i am |
| 11:00.05 | sajjadG | i did |
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| 11:00.35 | p_quarles | sajjadG: nethogs eth1 |
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| 11:00.38 | sajjadG | nethogs device eth1 and nethogs eth1 not working |
| 11:01.11 | p_quarles | WorksForMe(tm); what Debian version are you running? |
| 11:01.14 | wols | !doesn't work |
| 11:01.14 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
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| 11:01.56 | sajjadG | squeeze 6.0.0. |
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| 11:03.19 | jokar | o/ all |
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| 11:03.37 | jokar | excuse me can i encrypte a partition with gpg? |
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| 11:04.18 | p_quarles | jokar: you would need to run lvm encryption during initial setup |
| 11:04.36 | jokar | oh |
| 11:04.45 | sajjadG | i cant even run wireshark in root terminal :No protocol specified |
| 11:05.03 | jokar | gpg can't encrypte partition? |
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| 11:05.24 | p_quarles | sajjadG: wireshark is a graphical app; are you running an X server? |
| 11:05.46 | sajjadG | yes i can run wireshark from application menu |
| 11:05.51 | p_quarles | jokar: it could encrypt a loopback device, but I don't believe it can encrypt a primary partition on a hard disk |
| 11:05.54 | devil | sajjadG: you want sux instead of su |
| 11:05.59 | sajjadG | im in Gnome |
| 11:06.13 | devil | sux=su for X |
| 11:06.15 | jokar | o/ p_quarles:tnx |
| 11:06.30 | sajjadG | whoami says im root ! |
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| 11:06.36 | Iridos | ... just like michel jackson... no, hold on, that wasn't gnomes, that was kids |
| 11:06.40 | devil | sajjadG: read what i said |
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| 11:06.57 | p_quarles | sajjadG: but you can't run X apps from a root terminal; use sux |
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| 11:08.03 | Iridos | p_quarles, actually, you can |
| 11:08.07 | sajjadG | what about gedit? the gedit is not a X app? |
| 11:08.18 | p_quarles | you can, but not reliably, and it won't always work right |
| 11:09.01 | sajjadG | error: |
| 11:09.02 | sajjadG | root@debian:/home/gerami# sux wireshark |
| 11:09.02 | sajjadG | xauth: error in locking authority file /tmp/libgksu-Ow0HB7/.Xauthority |
| 11:09.02 | sajjadG | Unknown id: wireshark |
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| 11:09.06 | p_quarles | it really depends more on how the app is written to deal with permissions more than anything else |
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| 11:09.15 | Iridos | p_quarles, (to my annoyance) $XAUTHORITY now contains the place of the xauthrity file, it and DISPLAY are exported and inherited if you just type "su", so no problem to run X applications |
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| 11:09.48 | Iridos | oh well |
| 11:09.53 | Iridos | !next |
| 11:09.54 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 11:10.01 | p_quarles | lewl |
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| 11:11.27 | sajjadG | i kicked by debhelper :( i just paste 3 lines |
| 11:12.03 | the-fonz | [04:08] * sajjadG was kicked by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste) |
| 11:12.38 | riv3t | any debian friendly way to recompile conky with xmms2 support becides download source from side and compile? |
| 11:13.07 | p_quarles | there are 1100 people in here; pasting more than one line probably isn't called for |
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| 11:14.02 | sajjadG | http://paste.debian.net/125346 |
| 11:14.13 | Iridos | !tell riv3t -about package recompile |
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| 11:15.46 | sajjadG | sux not working with wireshark. any other way to run it with superuser privilege ? |
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| 11:16.35 | Iridos | sux sucks? |
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| 11:16.47 | p_quarles | sajjadG: you may just want to delete the broken .xauthority file; you may also try gksu |
| 11:16.54 | sajjadG | Iridos:yes :) |
| 11:17.36 | wols | riv3t: apt-get the source and build a deb with the proper options you need |
| 11:17.38 | Iridos | actually, that's an amazing output... I get |
| 11:17.43 | Iridos | $ sux wireshark |
| 11:17.43 | Iridos | Unknown id: wireshark |
| 11:17.46 | sajjadG | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:17.57 | p_quarles | sajjadG: honestly at this point if I were you, I would take the coward's way out and reboot; it should get rid of the temp files that are giving you shit |
| 11:18.05 | simonlnu | that's an x error |
| 11:18.05 | sajjadG | i get that too unkown id |
| 11:18.14 | the-fonz | lol @ cowards way out |
| 11:18.16 | the-fonz | NEVER! |
| 11:18.21 | p_quarles | lawl |
| 11:18.56 | sajjadG | so I'am going :) thanks for help see you later guys |
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| 11:20.10 | riv3t | wols: How can I build a deb with the options I need? |
| 11:20.26 | Iridos | p_quarles, you just said that to get rid of him! |
| 11:20.49 | wols | riv3t: one way would be to edit the debian/rules to call ./configure differently |
| 11:20.56 | p_quarles | Iridos: easiest way to solve all problems: convince person with problem that going away will solve everything |
| 11:21.42 | p_quarles | also, it should delete the temp files cleanly, and that sounded to me like the problem |
| 11:22.05 | Iridos | they tried that with gaddafi and it didn't work, though |
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| 11:22.47 | p_quarles | yes but no one with Gaddafi's fabulous fashion sense would be caught dead on irc |
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| 11:23.19 | riv3t | This is complex shit |
| 11:23.23 | riv3t | intense |
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| 11:24.24 | Iridos | not so much.. follow instructions? |
| 11:24.36 | madmadmad | test |
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| 11:25.08 | Iridos | riv3t, you did get the pm from dpkg, didn't you? most of that is copy&paste |
| 11:25.25 | riv3t | yeah about the debian/rules |
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| 11:25.39 | riv3t | thats abit over my head |
| 11:25.51 | wrtiii | I've been having a large issue with installing linux over the past week. I believe I had finally determined what the problem has been. While partitioning my drives I noticed that the installation usb was labeled hda, with my primary drive being hdb and secondy hdc naturally. Everything appears to go smoothly until I reboot, the pc posts and screen goes to black with a blinking cursor and it |
| 11:25.52 | wrtiii | hangs there. This time I installed as per every other time except when it asked me if I wished to install the bootloader to the mbr I removed the usb stick. It now has given me a fatal error as it is unable to install to hda. |
| 11:26.06 | wrtiii | Is there something I can do pre installation to correct this, or am I best to replace the usb stick and let it install the bootloader to it. then boot from the usb stick and somehow ( I would need help with this ) install the bootloader to the correct drive after the installation? |
| 11:26.13 | Iridos | riv3t, no, about "package recompile", you should also /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 11:26.16 | wols | wrtiii: we do not support ubuntu here |
| 11:26.20 | wrtiii | I have had this problem across multiple machines and multiple distros. Is this something I am doing incorrectly to end up with the usb stick registered as hda during the installtion? |
| 11:26.31 | wols | wrtiii: the problem you describe is no debian problem |
| 11:26.44 | wrtiii | wols: I am currently using a debian distro |
| 11:26.45 | riv3t | Iridos: Yeah sorry I got the messages but I got stuck on the debian/rules part |
| 11:26.53 | wols | !tell wrtiii about based on debian |
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| 11:27.30 | wrtiii | wols: I am using debian stable_netinstall x64 It is debian and is not ubuntu. |
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| 11:28.22 | wols | wrtiii: then your problem description is wrong.debian doesn't force you to install a bootloader |
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| 11:29.02 | wrtiii | wols: Does the debian intaller not ask as the 2nd last step requiring user input if you would like to install the bootloader to the mbr? |
| 11:29.09 | zuulian | hey! how do i configure sendmail on my debian box so that i can use it together with mutt so that it will ask for the sender's email adress and password everytime i'm going to send a mail? at the moment, it just breaks... |
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| 11:31.28 | wrtiii | wols: I currently have 2 systems with this same problem 1 has a debian installation 1 has a ubuntu installation. I also have 2 other system experiencing the same symptons although as it's been a rough week I could not tell you off the cuff which distro they are currently sitting with. |
| 11:33.34 | Iridos | riv3t, not complex at all... follow instructions, edit debian/rules, search for COMMON_CONFIGURE_FLAGS and add whatever you need, follow instructions (don't forget to edit debian/changelog... just copy stuff from below and edit) |
| 11:33.40 | wols | zuulian: is there any special reason you used sendmail? |
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| 11:34.02 | zuulian | wols: what else should i use? esmt or something? |
| 11:34.21 | zuulian | wols: i use it 'cause i think it's reasonable |
| 11:34.52 | wols | zuulian: sendmail is never reasonable unless you know exactly what you are doing |
| 11:35.11 | zuulian | wols: so: alternatives? |
| 11:35.35 | wols | exim, postfix, ssmtp and nullmailer |
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| 11:35.56 | wols | tho I dunno what your problem exactly is. and an MTA being a daemon, cannot put up a dialogbox for you to enter credentials |
| 11:36.05 | wols | no matter which MTA you use |
| 11:38.29 | zuulian | wols: basically i'm trying to use mutt to send from different mail addresses, but it can't handle the task without a MTA... |
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| 11:45.47 | Iridos | zuulian, what different email addresses |
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| 11:47.17 | wols | zuulian: that is no MTA problem but a purely and only mutt problem |
| 11:47.21 | Iridos | oh well, this is not getting anything done... laters |
| 11:47.23 | zuulian | Iridos: well, if i want to send a mail from zuulian@gmail.com at one time and zuulian@hotmail.com the other time |
| 11:47.44 | wols | what MTA mutt uses to send each mail is yet another problem |
| 11:48.13 | zuulian | wols: mutt says "connecting to smtp.live.com..." but than stops, so it's able to send the stuff over to sendmail, but then it interrupts... |
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| 11:49.28 | wols | zuulian: you need to learn what you call "sendmail". e.g smtp.live.com doesn't run sendmail, ever. at least for the sake of MSFT I hope so |
| 11:49.38 | Iridos | doesn't work this way... I don't think mutt was ever designed to be used for anything but local unix mail |
| 11:49.40 | simonlnu | smtp.live.com is not sendmail |
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| 11:50.30 | Iridos | and the MTA would take care of outgoing and incoming email... |
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| 11:50.47 | babilen | zuulian: Take a look at muttprofile |
| 11:51.48 | zuulian | is it a mutt patch? |
| 11:52.11 | Bushmills | zuulian: check out nullmailer or ssmtp |
| 11:52.26 | babilen | zuulian: It is a set of perl scripts that allow you to switch between configuration subsets from within mutt -- Please read the package description and its documentation. |
| 11:52.32 | simonlnu | it's a package.. |
| 11:52.38 | simonlnu | ,info muttprofile |
| 11:52.39 | judd | Package muttprofile (mail, optional) in squeeze/i386: a utility to choose profiles in Mutt. Version: 1.0.1-3; Size: 18.5k; Installed: 60k |
| 11:53.01 | Iridos | I would more suggest using something like thunderbird that's supposed to connect to multiple external email accounts than spending hours to hack something together with mutt |
| 11:53.34 | babilen | Why? muttprofile works well and you don't have to use a MUA that you wouldn't use if it weren't for this particular feature. |
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| 11:55.08 | Iridos | babilen, I still don't see how that works. hotmail/gmail would use something like pop-before-smtp or somesuch... mutt would always try to give email to the MTA and that would take care of sending? (not sure, I never used mutt, but that'S what the manpage suggests) |
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| 11:55.36 | simonlnu | gmail does auth |
| 11:55.38 | the-fonz | yay |
| 11:55.48 | Iridos | there seems to be "cone" among text-based email clients |
| 11:55.48 | mjt | and the MUA can hand that mail to your ISP, too |
| 11:55.51 | the-fonz | i love non rtfm comments when they're justified |
| 11:55.52 | the-fonz | ^__^ |
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| 11:57.03 | Iridos | mjt, the manpage doesn't say mutt does that |
| 11:57.37 | mjt | mutt gives it to MUA, whatever MUA does with it is up to MUA and should not be described in mutt's manpage |
| 11:57.59 | ompaul | !test |
| 11:57.59 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 11:58.03 | ompaul | good bot |
| 11:58.06 | wols | mjt: care to enlighten me what you consider a MUA? maybe give some names? |
| 11:58.14 | Iridos | I just wondered |
| 11:58.19 | mjt | heh. s/MUA/MTA/ ;) |
| 11:58.28 | mjt | sorry about that |
| 11:58.32 | petemc | mutt can talk to remote smtp servers, has been able to for years |
| 11:58.49 | ompaul | petemc: cept when the firewall stops it ;-) |
| 11:58.56 | petemc | well, aye |
| 11:59.01 | Iridos | mjt, those don't give things to _different_ smtp servers, usually ... specially if stuff comes from the same user |
| 11:59.30 | babilen | Iridos: You would use different ssmtp profiles for example in each mutt profile. |
| 12:00.25 | Bushmills | one of those nullmailers can select the upstream smtp server by sender address |
| 12:00.39 | Bushmills | but i'm not sure which one that was |
| 12:00.51 | babilen | s/ssmtp/esmtp or msmtp or ../ |
| 12:01.02 | mjt | actually there's no big reason to use different smtp servers. A "Nearby" server (the one of your ISP) usually works just fine. |
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| 12:01.22 | Iridos | oh well... I don't doubt it's possible somehow, maybe with more, maybe with a bit less tinkering... just saying it's so much easier to use an email client that was made to do those tasks |
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| 12:01.35 | babilen | mjt: If they relay mails with different From: headers and do not rewrite them |
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| 12:01.52 | mjt | yes sure |
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| 12:02.30 | Iridos | also, spam-checking scripts might drop the emails if it says "mjt@gmail.com", but comes from some IP somewhere, not from any of googles servers |
| 12:02.30 | babilen | Iridos: I would trade a little tinkering for a MUA that I like, but I agree with you that mutt wasn't designed with this in mind and other people might prefer to use one of the "modern" MUAs |
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| 12:03.08 | babilen | Iridos: You would typically use the SMTP server genuine to the email address you are sending from. |
| 12:03.29 | Iridos | babilen, ha, but that's because you love tinkering.. but he's asking here... and there's a simple solution so should point him to it |
| 12:03.30 | zuulian | babilen: ssmtp? is it really easier to set up? |
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| 12:05.21 | wols | babilen: can mutt use various smtp servers, maybe with the help of muttprofile? |
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| 12:08.05 | babilen | wols: You basically specify different sendmail thingies that use different profiles. A "sendmail thingie" would be msmtp or ssmtp for example. |
| 12:09.12 | babilen | You can also use smtp_url and smtp_pass as detailed in http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#smtp |
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| 12:09.33 | babilen | has this feeling that we should move over to #mutt :) |
| 12:09.52 | wols | nah, it's fine to talk about obscure rubbish MUAs :P |
| 12:10.20 | babilen | I would think that setting smtp_url is the easiest way ($sendmail is the fallback if that is not set) |
| 12:10.45 | babilen | wols: What is wrong with mutt? It is more or less the only MUA I can stand |
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| 12:12.31 | babilen | thunderbird is not an option as it does not work with maildirs -- how can you design a MUA that does not work with maildirs? And I haven't yet found another MUA that is usable without a mouse in the same way as mutt is. gnus might be an option if my emacs-fu would a bit stronger than it is right now, but meh |
| 12:12.55 | wrtiii | Once I am loaded into a debian installation. How do I tell it to create a new grub bootloader on a drive that I specify? |
| 12:13.53 | boudiccas | wrtiii; 'loaded into a debian installation'? what do you mean? |
| 12:14.09 | Iridos | babilen, apt-cache search seems to suggest "cone"... never tried that, though |
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| 12:14.27 | wols | !tell wrtiii about fixgrub |
| 12:14.32 | Iridos | babilen, and (al)pine doesn't work with maildirs for years and years now :) |
| 12:14.33 | ompaul | babilen: imap is your friend ime |
| 12:14.35 | wrtiii | boudiccas: logged in and @ root prompt |
| 12:14.47 | boudiccas | wrtiii; ah, right |
| 12:14.54 | babilen | zuulian: So, to get back to your actual question: I would use muttprofile to manage different profiles and have profiles that differ in their $smtp_* values |
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| 12:15.48 | babilen | ompaul: That certainly is an option, yes. |
| 12:15.56 | wrtiii | !tell wrtiii about rescue mode |
| 12:15.57 | Bushmills | ssmtp allows selection of forwarder through sender address, by configuring /etc/ssmtp/revaliases |
| 12:16.13 | Bushmills | and yes, ssmtp is easy to set up |
| 12:16.19 | wrtiii | !tell wrtiii about install guide |
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| 12:16.34 | wols | !tell wrtiii about selftell |
| 12:17.05 | zuulian | babilen: at the moment i'm purely confused! when i try to send a mail using mutt it just says that it is connectin to the server, but then it stops working...but i haven't configured sendmail at all yet, so why is it connectng then? |
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| 12:18.15 | riv3t | How do I set permission to a file that all users can read? |
| 12:19.36 | Iridos | "chmod a+rw file"? |
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| 12:20.25 | wrtiii | riv3t: I believe chmod 744 will allow yourself access to read write and execute the file but only read access to everyone else. |
| 12:20.39 | Iridos | oh, all can read |
| 12:20.51 | Iridos | only "chmod a+r file", then |
| 12:21.05 | wrtiii | riv3t: 444 is strictly read only I believe |
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| 12:21.06 | riv3t | thanks |
| 12:21.07 | Iridos | don't forget to make all higher-level directories executable |
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| 12:21.33 | riv3t | how to install xmms-infopipe |
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| 12:21.39 | Llywelyn | Is there a way to use Adblock Plus on Midori ? Thanks ! |
| 12:21.51 | sphenxes01 | I am using debian/squeeze and installed zfs-fuse. I want to access my data on freenas (192.168.178.35:/mnt/NASZFS01). I tried zfs mount -o /media/NASZfs 192.168.178.35:/mnt/NASZFS01. i get error: media/NASZfs': invalid dataset name. my question how can I mount zfs hard drive (freenas) to linux (zfs-fuse)? |
| 12:21.55 | wrtiii | iridos: Is there a difference between using chmod codes vs the attributes or just diffrent methods to achieve the same results? |
| 12:22.16 | simonlnu | tmtowtdi |
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| 12:22.28 | wols | Llywelyn: no |
| 12:22.37 | battaglin | sphenxes01: cifs? |
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| 12:22.58 | Iridos | wrtiii, yes, there is... it's EASY to remember a+r (all plus read) for pretty much everyone, but much harder to take apart the octal 744 into the rwx bits for user/group/all |
| 12:23.02 | wols | sphenxes01: freenas is a damn NAS! use a network filesystem |
| 12:23.02 | sphenxes01 | battaglin, nfs |
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| 12:23.27 | Llywelyn | wols: too bad. Is there a lightweight browser that supports Adblock Plus ? I know K-meleon for Windows... maybe Seamonkey, but it might be much heavier than Midori... |
| 12:23.42 | Iridos | wrtiii, so same result on the computer side... probably a lot less confusing for the person you tell it to, so different result on the user side :-P |
| 12:23.58 | simonlnu | Llywelyn: some of those have their own implementation |
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| 12:24.02 | sphenxes01 | wols, i am juts trying to work and learn zfs. |
| 12:24.37 | Llywelyn | simolnu: you mean a built-in adblock ? |
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| 12:25.28 | wols | sphenxes01: then create a LOCAL zfs |
| 12:25.43 | wrtiii | So once I am @ prompt in rescue mode I need to use the command grub-install '(hd0)' is it written exactly like that including the quotes and brackets? |
| 12:25.49 | sphenxes01 | wols, thanks |
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| 12:30.02 | babilen | zuulian: How is mutt configured? Have you set sendmail or smtp_url? Maybe http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttFaq/Sendmail clarifies it a bit? |
| 12:31.00 | babilen | zuulian: I would guess that mutt uses exim right now -- Please also read about the smtp_* options. |
| 12:31.04 | babilen | ,versions mutt |
| 12:31.05 | judd | Package mutt on i386 -- lenny: 1.5.18-6; lenny-backports: 1.5.20-5~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.5.20-9+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1.5.21-4~bpo60+1; sid: 1.5.21-5; wheezy: 1.5.21-5 |
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| 12:33.35 | efix | Guys, the epiphany browser is compatible with HTML5 ? |
| 12:34.30 | wols | efix: there is no such thing as "html5" yet. at most there is a working draft and all available browsers in states of various non-compliance and brokenness |
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| 12:41.16 | FriarLaurence | hi people, after i did the last upgrade, the gnome-terminal appears in retro style. how can i switch to the normal gnome look? |
| 12:42.07 | asarch | I would like to report a problem |
| 12:42.19 | asarch | I am having this issue every time I halt the system: |
| 12:42.22 | asarch | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/dsc04873o.jpg/ |
| 12:42.39 | efix | Friarlaurence, edit > profiles |
| 12:42.41 | wrtiii | Upon doing an fdisk -l I have two 160 gb drives showing sda and sdb now. One is a samsung one is a wd. How can I confirm which is which? |
| 12:42.50 | asarch | It only happens if I halt. If I reboot, nothing happen |
| 12:43.35 | FriarLaurence | efix: changing the profile didnt work. the whole program appears in old gtk style. also the menu bar that usually is not editable by terminal profiles |
| 12:44.10 | wrtiii | scratch that last question.. How do I do grub-install to sda? |
| 12:44.37 | simonlnu | '(hd0)' |
| 12:44.49 | efix | :@ |
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| 12:45.13 | wrtiii | oh ok, I thought the h changes to an s for sata drives? |
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| 12:45.45 | wrtiii | Ok Installation Finish no errors |
| 12:46.01 | wrtiii | so I should be able to pull my usb stick and boot normally I guess |
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| 12:47.25 | linux-fox | hi,all |
| 12:48.49 | Sefid_Par | linux-fox:Hi |
| 12:49.03 | efix | sorry, but i don't know reply your question. |
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| 12:49.42 | zuulian | babilen: your hint kinda helped, at least mutt is asking for the password now, but when i enter the correct password, i get "SASL authentication failed" -- ? |
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| 12:50.06 | Sebo | hi, Could you tell me how can I make tty2 to run shell for a given user (that will not require any logon) |
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| 12:55.43 | zuulian | what's wrong when SASL auth fails on foobar@smtp.live.com:587? |
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| 12:56.34 | wols | zuulian: can be many things. not so easy to answer |
| 12:56.57 | zuulian | password is correct, port is right, domain is good... |
| 12:57.14 | zuulian | account name matches.. |
| 12:57.16 | ompaul | zuulian: does it give you an error message |
| 12:57.28 | zuulian | only "SASL authentication fails" |
| 12:57.32 | zuulian | *failure* |
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| 12:58.29 | wols | ompaul: sasl is like that. which is why we all like it so much |
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| 13:00.27 | zuulian | mutt even is build with SASL support |
| 13:00.49 | linux-fox | what is SASL? |
| 13:01.22 | ompaul | linux-fox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Authentication_and_Security_Layer |
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| 13:05.20 | ompaul | zuulian: this is the only link on the internets that seems to help your position, however I don;t have an account on live.com and unlikely to ever have such a beast http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/configure-postfix-to-connect-to-remote-smtp-server-806224/ |
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| 13:07.19 | mightym | hey guys, i wonder how i could forward a website (which only allows access from the ip of my server) on a port so that different people get access to it? |
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| 13:09.08 | ompaul | mightym: nat though your router and surprisingly enough tell people your ip or else get a static ip, or get dydns.org to forward traffic |
| 13:09.50 | wrtiii | installing a web server via taskdel on debian does not ask you to set a mysql password? |
| 13:10.07 | mightym | my servers ip is static, thats because i like it to use |
| 13:10.38 | wols | mightym: and the IP is? |
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| 13:12.23 | mightym | well maybe I'm complete wrong, but i thought i could do sth like i do on my local machine with a shh tunnel on the server… like "get the website/ip rout it to port 500" |
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| 13:13.04 | mightym | but without a ssh tunnel, just on the server |
| 13:13.39 | doublehp | any LDNA screen server for Linux ? not the part that provides files (i hav emediathomb), but the part that can browse files and accept incoming cessions from mobile phones |
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| 13:14.34 | mightym | well thy anyway for your help |
| 13:15.18 | wols | mightym: if you don't answer questions we cannot help you |
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| 13:16.23 | mightym | wols: ah sry thought its a joke asking for the ip |
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| 13:21.01 | bernhard1 | After installing Ubuntu 11.4 server i get errors when booting. I have this issue on several disks (new and old one). It gives errors on the filesystem /boot . rdev/sda1 mountall fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1 then: cannot write bytes: broke pipe (many times)then it boots to prompt and i can login: So i repair the hd with Knoppix cd. It says the /boot was unmounted not not cleanly. |
| 13:21.01 | bernhard1 | then it repairs. When i repair sda1 with the knoppix cd with the command fsck /dev/sda1 it is fixed. So the server boots fine. But once the server is shutdown once it will startup again with these same message: mountall fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1 cannot write bytes: broke pipe Any clue how i can fix this ???? |
| 13:21.37 | mightym | or maybe someone could tell me at least if I can do that with apache? |
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| 13:22.54 | ompaul | !ubuntu |
| 13:22.54 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 13:24.37 | bernhard1 | Im here because im leaning towards debian :) |
| 13:25.05 | wols | bernhard1: then come back when you run debian |
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| 13:25.23 | wols | mightym: if you don't answer questions we cannot help you |
| 13:25.31 | wols | mightym: do I have to repeat this a 3rd time? |
| 13:25.33 | ompaul | mightym: ignore questions asked when you ask for help and find yourself getting the same treatment, people want to inform themselves of the status, in a way they understand so it is in your interest to work with people |
| 13:26.00 | ompaul | mightym: that is if you want to fix the problem, maybe you just want to hang out and be cool! |
| 13:26.41 | wols | ompaul: more like pseudo cool. or coming of as a total moron more likely |
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| 13:26.51 | ompaul | wols: there is that |
| 13:27.28 | izua | i'm looking for a quicklaunch tool that supports folders. something like truelaunch bar for windows. |
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| 13:28.13 | ompaul | izua: no idea what windows truelaunch does - do you mean a file manager - if so which desktop are you running and what version of debian is it? |
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| 13:28.48 | izua | no, a quicklaunch - like the default one - that allows me to group shortcuts in something that resembles the folder/directory concept in a fs. |
| 13:29.24 | mightym | ompaul: oh very nice atmosphere in here :) thx for the explanation… well i don't see a reason to tell foreigners an ip of a devserver… maybe you understand this. but if sty. like forwarding an ip over a proxy depends on the ip … that i have bad luck |
| 13:29.27 | ompaul | you want to add them to your panel |
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| 13:29.53 | ompaul | mightym: your info demanded the question and you didn't answer have a nice day ;-) |
| 13:30.04 | izua | i'm ok with running either kde or gnome. running debian 6. |
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| 13:30.51 | mightym | ompaul: ah ok, thank you very much anyway and sry for bothering you |
| 13:31.06 | wols | mightym: from what we understood you wanted to make the webserver available for people over the internet, ie making it publically accessible. hence there was no expectation of privacy needed. you don't want to answer information that is needed to answer your question, you cannot get answers. good luck |
| 13:33.03 | bernhard1 | when i want to install a debian server on an amd64 i go to this page http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/amd64/iso-cd/ inst there just one cd to use ??? |
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| 13:33.16 | simonlnu | basically: help us help you. simple, really. |
| 13:33.19 | doublehp | people still use CDs ? |
| 13:33.25 | mightym | wols: no it was just the question how i forward f.e. www.google.de over my debian server to f.e. 78.324.23.12:3000 … sry for wasting your time guys |
| 13:33.38 | izua | bernhard1: no, there are ~8 DVDs. the usual install is pulling packages from the internet as needed. |
| 13:33.58 | mightym | a nice an peaceful sunday to you |
| 13:33.59 | doublehp | people still use plastic circles ? |
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| 13:34.19 | doublehp | 8 DVDs polute 8 times more than a CD, and infinitly more than PXE |
| 13:34.22 | bernhard1 | <doublehp> debian site still provides them.. you disgree ? |
| 13:34.29 | wols | bernhard1: there is. CD1 |
| 13:34.48 | wols | bernhard1: or if you want it even smaller: netinst iso |
| 13:34.50 | bernhard1 | my servers have only cd drives. |
| 13:34.57 | doublehp | bemawi: Debian should provide PXE/TFTP server . |
| 13:35.14 | ompaul | bernhard1: do they have network connections? |
| 13:35.19 | bernhard1 | yes |
| 13:35.34 | ompaul | bernhard1: then use the netinstall cd one cd and do the rest from the internet |
| 13:36.21 | bernhard1 | ok ill try that.. thanx |
| 13:36.37 | ompaul | bernhard1: when the first one is made make a proxy server of it and have the others apt-get via there or make a proxy server now and later in a post install world make a different box the proxy server |
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| 13:37.00 | izua | bernhard1: if you have multiple identical boxes, you can dd from one to the other after the first install. |
| 13:37.06 | Sebo | Can I 'tell' dpkg that I've got some package installed, whithout installing it acctually (I've noticed I've got needed files but apt still forces me to deinstal cause of unsatisfactioned deps). |
| 13:38.09 | wols | izua: why do they have to be completely identical? and what does he do when he uses static IPs in /etc/network/interfaces which is very common for servers? |
| 13:38.19 | wols | !tell Sebo about equivs |
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| 13:38.53 | izua | uh, i guess he only needs the same partition space |
| 13:39.22 | izua | if he has modifications to make, he can change them after the system is up and running, which installs faster with dd |
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| 13:40.08 | Sebo | wols: thx |
| 13:41.00 | ompaul | drops the words "squid" and "documentation" on mightym's head |
| 13:41.06 | ompaul | wanders off |
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| 13:50.11 | mightym | ompaul: kleiner spassvogel :) |
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| 13:57.50 | skilz | How do I figure out what device my USB memory stick is? I thought it may have been sda1 but that is my main HDD. I would like to have it set up so when I plug in a USB memory stick it auto mounts to /media/usb. |
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| 13:58.21 | skilz | Also, I am using fluxbox not gnome. |
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| 13:59.05 | Ulfalizer | how do i list the available versions for a particular package? |
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| 13:59.25 | nooodl | hi, i'm trying to install debian; the installer tells me i'm missing firmware files "rtl_nic/rtl8168d-*.fw" |
| 13:59.42 | themill | !wayttd Ulfalizer |
| 13:59.43 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Ulfalizer? |
| 13:59.43 | nooodl | this appears to be a known issue, and the solution is to install the firmware-realtek package |
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| 14:00.02 | nooodl | but how do i install that before even installing debian? |
| 14:00.26 | nooodl | can i just put those files on some device and have it find them? |
| 14:00.35 | wols | !tell nooodl about installer firmware |
| 14:02.01 | Ulfalizer | dpkg: see if there's a more recent version of buildbot available, and install it if so |
| 14:02.01 | dpkg | Ulfalizer: You are person #3 to send an unparseable request |
| 14:02.15 | Ulfalizer | s/dpkg/themill/ |
| 14:02.19 | nooodl | "When the installer starts, it will automatically find the firmware tarball on the removable storage and, if needed, install the firmware for your hardware." |
| 14:02.20 | nooodl | neat |
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| 14:03.37 | boudiccas | Ulfalizer; dpkg is a bot! |
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| 14:03.51 | nooodl | anything goes? usb sticks, dvds, etc.? |
| 14:03.56 | themill | Ulfalizer: packages.debian.org is the best place to check that; or /msg judd versions buildbot |
| 14:04.30 | Ulfalizer | what happens if you manually install some packages that overwrite files installed by the package manager? how confused might it get in the worst case? |
| 14:04.54 | boudiccas | Ulfalizer; time for a reinstall then! |
| 14:04.58 | Ulfalizer | s/packages/programs/, to avoid confusion |
| 14:05.13 | themill | Ulfalizer: btw mixing debian and ubuntu packages isn't a good plan. |
| 14:05.15 | Ulfalizer | boudiccas: is it that brittle? :/ |
| 14:05.49 | boudiccas | Ulfalizer; only when you play silly buggers with it! |
| 14:05.56 | hikenboot | its been a while since i have come in here...hello ...I am wondering if anyone in here has any experience using openfiler or someother software san solution with drdb. I am looking for ideas on a SAN-to-SAN solution for replication over a WAN network. I have approximately 1TB of storage that I would like to replicate and automate failover Ihave been very happy with nexentastor as a single site solution but since this is a HA solut |
| 14:05.58 | wols | nooodl: have you read the links in the factoid? and in your case, you don't need network access while installing. and you can then install the firmware package later, easily |
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| 14:06.42 | nooodl | all right, i'm going to try that |
| 14:06.47 | wols | hikenboot: how is this openfiler debian related? |
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| 14:10.06 | hikenboot | its not I was looking for other solutions |
| 14:10.48 | wols | hikenboot: still don't see a debian support connection |
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| 14:11.15 | hikenboot | ok forget it i will go elsewhere...i figured the debian people are the best of the best so i came here to ask |
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| 14:12.01 | boudiccas | hikenboot; try #debian-offtopic |
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| 14:13.02 | lidenbrock | hi, why do I have to put my debian cd on my cdrom driver in order to install application, such as grace? What do I have to do in order not to need my debian cd? |
| 14:13.46 | wols | lidenbrock: remove or comment out the lines starting with deb cdrom in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 14:14.34 | hikenboot | boudiccas: thanks for the suggestion |
| 14:14.50 | boudiccas | hikenboot; yw |
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| 14:15.57 | lidenbrock | how do I save changes using vim? |
| 14:16.18 | themill | lidenbrock: :w is to write; :x is to write and exit |
| 14:16.22 | wols | lidenbrock: ESC : w |
| 14:17.01 | nooodl | ZZ if you're cool! |
| 14:17.36 | lidenbrock | thx |
| 14:17.43 | themill | !next |
| 14:17.43 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 14:19.28 | lidenbrock | how do I see processes that are still working |
| 14:19.33 | lidenbrock | and how do I kill them? |
| 14:20.17 | pbase | lidenbrock: "top" and killall <process name> |
| 14:20.38 | boudiccas | lidenbrock; top and k will allow you to kill them from thier pid number |
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| 14:22.02 | lidenbrock | thanks |
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| 14:36.35 | mrtnt1 | Is there anything that "ps" can do, that "lsof" can't? |
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| 14:38.41 | jhutchins_lt | Yes |
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| 14:43.40 | N1x | hi guys i have one problem, |
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| 14:43.54 | N1x | i have d-link dwa-125 wireless adapter (usb) |
| 14:44.11 | N1x | i have installed firwmare and working |
| 14:44.16 | N1x | but when i connect my adapter |
| 14:44.29 | N1x | i see disconnected in network-manager |
| 14:44.39 | N1x | why? |
| 14:45.02 | dvs | N1x: is it configured in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 14:45.09 | [Sanyi] | u can connect everywhere if the network-manager displays disconnected? |
| 14:45.37 | N1x | [Sanyi]: nah, only i see in terminal wlan0 is up |
| 14:45.44 | N1x | but i can't see any ssid-s |
| 14:45.58 | N1x | because device is disconnected when i have connected :/ |
| 14:46.16 | [Sanyi] | hm |
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| 14:46.32 | wols | N1x: answer dvs please |
| 14:47.07 | N1x | dvs: no i have't |
| 14:47.46 | wols | N1x: so what do you use to configure it? |
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| 14:48.33 | jhutchins_lt | There is "connected" meaning plugged in to the computer, and "connected" meaning having successfully associated with an AP. |
| 14:48.42 | N1x | wols: hm connect to my ssid and recieve ip frm dhcp |
| 14:48.58 | dvs | jhutchins_lt: It's a wireless connection |
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| 14:49.08 | jhutchins_lt | dvs: Right. USB. |
| 14:49.26 | N1x | yep |
| 14:49.52 | N1x | when i have plugged my usb adapter into computer |
| 14:50.01 | N1x | i see dlink adapter is disconnected |
| 14:50.04 | N1x | to network-managers option |
| 14:50.38 | Benkinooby | hm, what is the most verbose way of copying files via commandline? i know cp -v is there maybe one that shows a progress bar or additional info? |
| 14:50.45 | jhutchins_lt | N1x: That is because you have not established a connection. |
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| 14:51.04 | jhutchins_lt | Benkinooby: rsync -av --progress |
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| 14:51.34 | Benkinooby | jhujhiti, thank you |
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| 14:52.15 | N1x | and i can't scan any ssds |
| 14:52.15 | N1x | like when eth0 is up and cable is not plugged |
| 14:52.15 | N1x | :) |
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| 14:53.36 | N1x | jhutchins_lt: yep but when i trying iwlist wlan0 scan |
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| 14:53.44 | N1x | i can't see any ssid-s |
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| 14:55.11 | wols | N1x: what wlan chip is it? |
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| 14:56.02 | N1x | any idea? |
| 14:56.21 | ompaul | N1x: please answer [15:55:11] <wols> N1x: what wlan chip is it? |
| 14:56.44 | N1x | wols: wlan chip? |
| 14:56.51 | N1x | what u mean? |
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| 14:57.07 | xingu | does squeeze's rescue mode support luks volumes? |
| 14:57.09 | wols | what chip does your wlan adapter use? |
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| 14:57.27 | xingu | sorry, bit of a --clue question I realise, but I'd rather find out before finding out. |
| 14:57.35 | N1x | wols: 802.11 bgn |
| 14:57.47 | ompaul | N1x: lspci and what does the laptop have |
| 14:58.08 | wols | N1x: that's no wlan chip id but a network protocol. simply guessing and making shit up won't work |
| 14:58.17 | wols | ompaul: IIRC it's a usb device |
| 14:58.33 | ompaul | all lovely so an lsub might help |
| 14:58.38 | ompaul | lsusb even |
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| 14:58.58 | N1x | ompaul: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 07d1:3c0d D-Link System DWA-125 Wireless 150 USB Adapter |
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| 15:00.52 | ompaul | N1x: seems you need to read this page and the part about your lenny / squeeze whatever doing the one for your system http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta |
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| 15:02.33 | c3l | how come my debian installation suddenly displays the wrong time, its now one hour ahead of actual time. sweden, timezone "Sweden (GTM+1/GTM+2)" |
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| 15:03.08 | bernhard1 | Installing debian net-inst |
| 15:03.26 | ompaul | bernhard1: squeeze I hope |
| 15:04.00 | boudiccas | c3l; install ntp and it will correct the time |
| 15:04.04 | ompaul | c3l: locale | grep TIME does that say something about your rime? |
| 15:04.07 | ompaul | s/time |
| 15:04.10 | bernhard1 | 6.0.2.1 |
| 15:04.16 | ompaul | bernhard1: that's the one |
| 15:04.37 | wols | boudiccas: I doubt that will help him |
| 15:04.40 | bernhard1 | already starting to moan .. this install |
| 15:04.45 | bernhard1 | missing firmwares.. |
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| 15:05.06 | bernhard1 | e100/d102e_ucode.bin |
| 15:05.17 | bernhard1 | tigon/tg3_tso.bin |
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| 15:05.59 | ompaul | bernhard1: usually it will just work |
| 15:06.07 | ompaul | and you can visit that later if you really need to |
| 15:06.11 | bernhard1 | just continue ? |
| 15:06.40 | bernhard1 | i did.. |
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| 15:06.51 | ompaul | bernhard1: you got more than one machine is my understanding from what you said earlier, I'll take it you do |
| 15:07.27 | bernhard1 | yes 3 servers... |
| 15:08.13 | ompaul | bernhard1: I have had one situation where I had to install using the normal "cd1" and then I threw on firmware-linux-nonfree and it got on with it's life - it is rather productive these days is what I write on its report card ;-) |
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| 15:10.09 | itsPhilip | A software raid of mine is currently checking itself. Right now my server is under heavy load so I would like to pause the check and continue it when the load has declined. How can I do that? |
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| 15:10.15 | nooodl | i was installing debian on this laptop, and must've misconfigured GRUB or something, and now i can't boot from my HDD |
| 15:10.22 | nooodl | i'm stressing out :( |
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| 15:10.52 | nooodl | can i, from the CD installer, just undo any changes i've made? |
| 15:11.24 | ompaul | http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover |
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| 15:11.53 | iluminator101 | how is auto defrag for btrfs implemented in linux 3.0 kernel; does btrfs has fsck yet is anyone using btrfs on linux 3.0 kernel, if so what are your results? |
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| 15:12.14 | skilz | How do I figure out what device my USB memory stick is and how can I make it auto mount when I insert it? |
| 15:12.46 | nooodl | ompaul: it's not the other crappy os (windows 7) that's broken |
| 15:12.56 | nooodl | is that article still what i'm looking for? |
| 15:13.53 | ompaul | nooodl: frankly you said, must've misconfigured grub ... I make my assumption that I give you the right page there and then if it fails I expect you to check it out |
| 15:13.55 | skilz | something about lspci? |
| 15:14.08 | wols | skilz: dmesg |
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| 15:14.30 | wols | nooodl: when you try to boot, what happens? |
| 15:14.56 | nooodl | wols: blinking cursor in the top-left corner of the screen |
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| 15:15.18 | nooodl | i'm not actually sure grub is the issue here. that's a wild guess |
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| 15:15.33 | thewanderer1 | iluminator101, try ##linux... to the best of my knowledge, there is no fsck yet, and on Debian there were cases of data loss [citation needed] :P |
| 15:15.35 | skilz | wols: Thanks, I discovered it's sdc1, now how do I auto mount it each time it's inserted? |
| 15:15.48 | ompaul | !tell nooodl about ask |
| 15:16.10 | wols | nooodl: what's your partition layout? fdisk -l |
| 15:16.11 | iluminator101 | thewanderer1, thanks |
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| 15:16.15 | ompaul | nooodl: check out the message from the bot it will tell you how to phrase what you know so maybe we stand a chance of helping you |
| 15:16.22 | wols | !tell skilz about automount |
| 15:16.46 | nooodl | ompaul: sorry, i think i'm as confused as you are, though |
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| 15:17.10 | wols | nooodl: we know. and that's the problem |
| 15:17.22 | ompaul | abandons them all to wols :) |
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| 15:18.01 | bernhard1 | there is no server cd for debian.. i want to install the server but on the install it selects graphical desktop environment.. not a good idear for a server i think.. |
| 15:18.02 | nooodl | alright, fdisk -l says |
| 15:18.26 | ompaul | bernhard1: the top box is "able to be unselected" |
| 15:18.30 | wols | bernhard1: no one hold a gun to your head and forces you to install the desktop task |
| 15:18.30 | rozie | bernhard1: there is role choice in installer |
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| 15:18.39 | ompaul | the one with desktop in there |
| 15:18.54 | wols | !tell nooodl about paste |
| 15:19.06 | rozie | you can choose none of roles, it'll give you pure base system |
| 15:19.12 | nooodl | wols: i'm manually typing everything over |
| 15:19.24 | nooodl | i can't connect to a network, either, so |
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| 15:20.25 | babloo | wols: thankyou atlast some things set for using debian |
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| 15:20.47 | wols | babloo: you got your broadcom working? |
| 15:20.57 | ompaul | nooodl: you can type or you can take a photograph and put it on imagebin but people are not going to guess the what feels like an infinite amount of things that could be in that list |
| 15:21.03 | babloo | :) just exploring the workd of debian /me got a new fried debian on friendship day ;) |
| 15:21.22 | babloo | yes in 686 |
| 15:21.22 | nooodl | ompaul: i'm typing, hold on :) |
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| 15:22.56 | nooodl | http://paste.debian.net/125368/ this looked like the relevant info |
| 15:23.18 | ompaul | nooodl: is there only one operating system on that machine? |
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| 15:23.24 | wols | nooodl: only one harddisk? |
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| 15:24.17 | nooodl | wols: that's /dev/sda, which had windows 7 on it, previously |
| 15:24.53 | nooodl | it's kinda starting to look like i overwrote everything on there by accident |
| 15:25.15 | wols | nooodl: how many harddisks do you have? |
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| 15:25.38 | wols | nooodl: and did you use a CD or a usb stick to install debian? |
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| 15:25.53 | nooodl | there's also /dev/sdb, which is 2 GB |
| 15:26.00 | nooodl | wols: a CD |
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| 15:26.13 | nooodl | (DVD, actually) |
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| 15:27.20 | wols | !fixgrub |
| 15:27.21 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
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| 15:27.34 | wols | reinstall grub to /dev/sda with this |
| 15:28.32 | nooodl | so, mount -t ext2 /dev/sda ... |
| 15:28.50 | nooodl | or do i replace /target with /dev/sda in there |
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| 15:29.17 | wols | nooodl: sda1 and no, bioth mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /target |
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| 15:30.14 | nooodl | but /target is supposed to be something else, right? there's no such directory |
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| 15:30.48 | wols | use /mnt that pretty much always exists |
| 15:31.16 | skilz | anyway I can set iwconfig, ifconfig, iwlist ect to run as user not root? |
| 15:31.38 | wols | skilz: /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 15:32.22 | skilz | wols: how can I make it when when I just type ifconfig ect? |
| 15:32.33 | nooodl | "warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR. This is a BAD idea." |
| 15:32.36 | wols | skilz: put /sbin and such in the path of normal users |
| 15:33.01 | skilz | wols: How do I put /sbin in the path of normal users? |
| 15:33.03 | bernhard1 | got an error after my install: When i shut down. deactivating swap done: unmounting local file systems, done: shutting down LVM volume groups: cant deactivate volume group "duizend" with one open logical volume(s) FAILED Will now Halt. |
| 15:33.06 | wols | nooodl: you ran grub-install /dev/sda1, you should run grub-install /dev/sda |
| 15:33.27 | nooodl | installation finished. |
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| 15:33.47 | nooodl | alright, just exit and reboot now? |
| 15:33.49 | frostschutz | bernhard1: root on lvm? in that case the message is normal/harmless |
| 15:33.53 | wols | skilz: grep PATH ~/.* |
| 15:34.13 | wols | nooodl: grup-update detected your kernel(s)? |
| 15:34.17 | Featurefreak | Hi folks, i'm looking to set up iptables ina simple manageable way for someone who's new to firewalls. |
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| 15:34.42 | Featurefreak | if there is something that i could read today, and have the firewall done in about an hour, i'd be very happy |
| 15:34.44 | skilz | wols: /home/skilz/.profile: PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" |
| 15:35.00 | nooodl | i think it only found the debian one |
| 15:35.03 | bernhard1 | <frostschutz> how can i see if root is on LVM ? |
| 15:35.11 | frostschutz | bernhard1: mount? |
| 15:35.14 | johannes1 | on lenny my /boot/grub/menu.lst ist lost, how do get a new one? |
| 15:35.15 | wols | nooodl: that's what it should find |
| 15:35.19 | nooodl | alright |
| 15:35.29 | wols | johannes1: try update-grub |
| 15:35.30 | skilz | wols: Which line for I need to edit? |
| 15:35.42 | wols | skilz: then one where it sets path(s) |
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| 15:35.53 | wols | skilz: and you only showed us one single line |
| 15:36.16 | johannes1 | wols: I tried, and update-grub does not write a menu.lst |
| 15:36.29 | wols | johannes1: errors? |
| 15:36.30 | skilz | Thats all it showed whin I typed that command |
| 15:36.35 | nooodl | wols: i'll try to boot now |
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| 15:36.58 | johannes1 | wols: only "Searching for Grub Installation directiory ... found: /boot/grub |
| 15:37.00 | nooodl | wols: i'd much rather see that i manage to boot into windows than debian now, though |
| 15:37.34 | wols | nooodl: are there any windows partitions left? I haven't seen any in your fdisk -l output |
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| 15:37.43 | skilz | wols: http://pastebin.com/jcPLVgp9 |
| 15:37.45 | johannes1 | wols: my complete /boot was lost, and i reinstalled the kernel and grub, now only menu.list ist is still missing |
| 15:38.08 | nooodl | wols: looks like there aren't... |
| 15:38.49 | nooodl | oh man |
| 15:38.50 | bernhard1 | <frostschutz> -/dev/mapper/duizend-root on type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 15:38.59 | nooodl | i managed to boot into debian... i think windows is *gone* |
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| 15:41.40 | nooodl | well, i'd at least like to be able to connect to a network |
| 15:41.53 | nooodl | DHCP failed for some reason |
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| 15:43.30 | wols | nooodl: what network connection? what network chip? |
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| 15:44.42 | ragnar76 | hi all |
| 15:44.52 | nooodl | wols: WLAN |
| 15:45.04 | ragnar76 | i just installed debian on a ppc mac, what are good repositories for it? |
| 15:45.15 | wols | ragnar76: the debian repos |
| 15:45.21 | wols | nooodl: what wlan chip? |
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| 15:46.16 | nooodl | i'm not sure, where should i find out? |
| 15:46.39 | wols | lspci or lsusb |
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| 15:47.35 | themill | nooodl: "lspci -nn", most likely |
| 15:47.50 | mosno | why would 'm-a a-i broadcom-sta' pull in openssh-server? seems a bit strange, no? |
| 15:48.25 | wols | mosno: possibly recommends. but yes it's strange |
| 15:48.38 | nooodl | Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller [10:ec:8168] |
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| 15:48.50 | mosno | wols: hmm yes. those damned recommends... sometimes they're critial, sometimes they're superfluous.. |
| 15:48.51 | nooodl | during the installer, i had to get the firmware for that |
| 15:48.53 | wols | !rtl8191se |
| 15:48.54 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8191SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8171, 10ec:8172) and RTL8192SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8173, 10ec:8174, some 10ec:8192) are PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192se) is in mainline since Linux 3.0. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware>. |
| 15:48.58 | mosno | critical* |
| 15:49.04 | nooodl | i wonder why dhcp still wasn't found |
| 15:49.12 | nooodl | wols: i have the .fw file |
| 15:49.14 | wols | nooodl: oh joy! |
| 15:49.17 | nooodl | :) |
| 15:49.21 | wols | nooodl: but no driver |
| 15:49.36 | nooodl | could be |
| 15:50.14 | mosno | oh, it was openssh-client |
| 15:50.16 | wols | nooodl: what laptop is this? |
| 15:50.17 | mosno | slaps himself a bit |
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| 15:50.24 | wols | mosno: still |
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| 15:50.49 | mosno | i never can choose whether to leave Recommends on or turn it off... either way i get bitted |
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| 15:50.52 | themill | mosno: "aptitude why broadcom-sta-source openssh-client" |
| 15:50.52 | mosno | bitten* |
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| 15:51.29 | mosno | themill: quilt -> git -> openssh-client |
| 15:51.48 | themill | indeed. why gettext requires git I'll never understand |
| 15:52.02 | nooodl | wols: Medion Akoya P8614 |
| 15:52.04 | mosno | you mean quilt? |
| 15:52.06 | wols | nooodl: the "easiest" way it to use testing and get a 3.0 kernel for it. if you really want to run testing is another matter |
| 15:52.08 | mosno | themill: ^ |
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| 15:52.14 | themill | no |
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| 15:53.25 | wols | nooodl: oh. just sat half a week on one of those. totally awfully shitty network connection with the realtek. ended up buying a tplink PCI-E card with atheros chip and an external antenna. no the internet there works as opposed to 0 to 10 kB/s |
| 15:54.03 | wols | nooodl: oh. laptop. then it was another medion I guess (desktop), but it had the same realtek check inside |
| 15:54.18 | nooodl | heh :) |
| 15:55.20 | nooodl | can't complain about the network connection, though. it worked fine on windows 7, so it probably should on debian as well |
| 15:55.47 | nooodl | i'll just need the drivers so that it can use the thing, i guess |
| 15:55.48 | themill | !dbugs 628743 |
| 15:55.52 | wols | ,kernels |
| 15:55.53 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-1); wheezy: 2.6.39-2-686-pae (2.6.39-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny3) |
| 15:55.55 | dpkg | DONE:#628743:N[autopoint] autopoint: Autopoint depends on git (); Tue, 31 May 2011 22:45:01 UTC [] |
| 15:55.58 | themill | mosno: ^^ |
| 15:56.18 | wols | nooodl: compat-wireless would be an option maybe |
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| 15:57.18 | wols | nooodl: compat-wireless is a tarball with the latest wlan drivers which you can then compile for your older kernel |
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| 15:58.18 | wols | nooodl: do you have _any_ network access, e.g. via ethernet? |
| 15:58.44 | nooodl | nope |
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| 15:59.19 | Sebo | do you know any debian console disasambler? |
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| 16:00.07 | Sebo | ie the disasambler that could run in debian console :) |
| 16:00.14 | wols | not even for a quarter of an hour? or maybe you have CD1 of debian? apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 16:00.39 | wols | Sebo: I don't know of any. IDA Pro runs under linux tho |
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| 16:01.11 | wols | or rather, you can run it under linux (dos box for example) und disassemble ELF binaries |
| 16:01.15 | nooodl | i installed from CD1, yeah |
| 16:02.02 | wols | nooodl: check if http://linuxwireless.org/download/compat-wireless-2.6/ is down for you too please |
| 16:02.24 | nooodl | it is |
| 16:02.40 | wols | this doesn't look good: PING linuxwireless.org (78.46.109.217) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 16:02.43 | wols | From host.sipsolutions.net (78.46.109.213) icmp_seq=1 Time to live exceeded |
| 16:03.44 | Sebo | wols: thx, I'll see |
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| 16:04.52 | xortch | i forget the apt command that will show me all of the available versions of a package |
| 16:05.34 | llutz | xortch: apt-cache policy package |
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| 16:05.56 | nooodl | that site chose a bad day to be down, heh |
| 16:05.57 | xortch | llutz: thanks |
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| 16:07.12 | nooodl | wols: if i had the driver files, what would i have to do with them to install them? |
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| 16:07.49 | wols | nooodl: there is a readme. basically a make;make install |
| 16:08.22 | nooodl | oh, just that |
| 16:08.33 | wols | nooodl: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Zo0y2y9VBr4J:wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download+compatwireless&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com |
| 16:08.47 | wols | go into the directory of the extracted files. make. make install |
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| 16:11.39 | nooodl | wols: well, that just links to http://wireless.kernel.org/, which is down |
| 16:12.15 | JeanValjean | Hi folks! Yesterday I dont want help. I want to help. For example by testing softwares or translating softwares...How can I start doing that stuffs? |
| 16:12.34 | JeanValjean | forget the yesterday word |
| 16:12.54 | wols | nooodl: the link I gave you explains how to install it. not where to get it |
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| 16:13.45 | wols | JeanValjean: if you want to help testing software: run unstable or testing and report the bugs you encounter |
| 16:13.54 | mosno | JeanValjean: http://www.debian.org/intro/help |
| 16:13.57 | wols | translations are done upstream generally, not at the distro |
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| 16:15.14 | JeanValjean | wols, but coldn't I help ? |
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| 16:15.39 | JeanValjean | mosno, I will check the link. Thank you |
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| 16:18.24 | nooodl | wols: is this because i have a rarely-used wlan chip, or do most people have to go through this process? |
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| 16:22.43 | omido | offtopic! |
| 16:22.46 | omido | !offtopic |
| 16:22.46 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 16:35.15 | wols | nooodl: crappy wlan chip :) if you had an intel or atheros which wasn't brand new, you usually don't have this problem |
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| 16:35.26 | nooodl | ah |
| 16:35.38 | wols | but broadcom, ralink, realtek are very often problematic |
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| 16:37.36 | nooodl | wols: i'll probably just have to wait for that site to come back on-line |
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| 16:49.06 | themill | Guest38486: probably network-manager (and network-manager-gnome) |
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| 16:50.23 | Guest38486 | i don't have a gui inistalled |
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| 16:54.11 | themill | Guest38486: so are you wanting a gui as well? or are you looking for a command-line way of telling if the cable is unplugged? |
| 16:54.21 | Guest38486 | cli way |
| 16:54.27 | Guest38486 | so just network-manager?? |
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| 16:54.46 | themill | mii-tool or ethtool or ifplugd might be what you're looking for. |
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| 17:04.50 | jason404 | I have foo_2.10-1.diff.gz foo_2.10-1.dsc and foo_2.10.orig.tar.gz |
| 17:05.03 | jason404 | how do I build a deb file out of those? |
| 17:05.31 | jason404 | do I have to unpack them first? |
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| 17:07.10 | wols | jason404: use apt-get source to get them. much easier |
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| 17:08.02 | jason404 | wols: but the program does not seem to be in the official repo. the program is from google code |
| 17:08.10 | jason404 | http://code.google.com/p/shellinabox/source/browse/trunk#trunk/distributions/debian |
| 17:08.50 | marcelomauro | how can I install debian on pen drive? I have tryed but grub cann't install |
| 17:09.14 | wols | jason404: you unpack the tar.gz, and then you patch it with the diff file |
| 17:09.24 | wols | ,versions shellinabox |
| 17:09.25 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'shellinabox' was found in i386. |
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| 17:10.02 | jason404 | wols: has the bot got any intructions on doing that? |
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| 17:10.19 | wols | I don't think so |
| 17:10.30 | jason404 | oh, okay |
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| 17:15.15 | marcelomauro | I would like some tutorial about how to install debian on pendrive. I want install and boot for it. Anybody? |
| 17:16.13 | marcelomauro | excuse me my English, I cann't express me very well. |
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| 17:17.44 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, do you want a real install that will store your modifications (all files that you write) on the pendrive, or a live system? |
| 17:18.10 | nooodl | wols: i found drivers here: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/hardware/434035-realtek-rtl8191-8192se-wifi-drivers.html |
| 17:18.24 | Guest38486 | hey i just reinstalled debian, what is the package that notifies me when i have a cable unplugged or plugged in??>?? |
| 17:18.41 | nooodl | they seem to be relevant enough |
| 17:19.15 | thewanderer1 | Guest15721, network-manager and some front-end to it? |
| 17:19.31 | Guest38486 | i'm only on the cli |
| 17:19.42 | marcelomauro | thewanderer1: a real install. Is it possible? |
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| 17:20.17 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, yes, it is possible - just boot from the normal boot CD/DVD and the USB pendrive will appear as a normal hard drive, you can install to it |
| 17:20.18 | marcelomauro | I have tryed but the grub get a mistake when I install |
| 17:20.36 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, remove all other disk drives when doing that, only leave the pendrive in the machine |
| 17:20.49 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, as far as I know, GRUB is installed to all hard disks, which is not what you want |
| 17:20.54 | marcelomauro | I did that |
| 17:21.25 | thewanderer1 | if you got a GRUB error, you'll need to tell us exactly what the error message was |
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| 17:21.50 | nooodl | hmm, "Network" has a "Windows Network" in it |
| 17:21.51 | nooodl | what's that |
| 17:21.58 | marcelomauro | It's says GRUB cann't be installed |
| 17:22.25 | marcelomauro | LILO is the same |
| 17:22.32 | thewanderer1 | nooodl, newer Linux kernel versions should have drivers for that, check it out |
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| 17:22.56 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, what is the brand and model of the pendrive? and what exact error message is that? (type it here) |
| 17:23.27 | nooodl | thewanderer1: is updating the kernel hard? |
| 17:23.40 | ehnde | i've just installed debian testing, my wireless card shows up as wlan0 in iwconfig, but it's not manageable in the gnome network manager |
| 17:23.45 | nooodl | can it mess anything up? |
| 17:23.46 | marcelomauro | thewanderer1: I have tryed with a pendriver 4Gb and other hd extern 500gb |
| 17:24.09 | ehnde | can someone tell me how to get my wireless card working? it worked fine during the installation process but i can't get it to work now |
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| 17:25.03 | thewanderer1 | nooodl, for the most part, yes, you need to know how to compile a kernel or know where to get a pre-compiled one that works |
| 17:25.24 | thewanderer1 | maybe backports has some new kernels you can try |
| 17:25.36 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, what is the exact error message? |
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| 17:26.07 | ehnde | nm-applet says "device not managed" for wlan0 |
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| 17:26.55 | thewanderer1 | ehnde, is the device listed in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 17:26.56 | marcelomauro | Simply says that GRUB can't be installed and because that the system wouldn't be initiable |
| 17:27.53 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, and you chose to install GRUB to the MBR? |
| 17:27.59 | marcelomauro | I utilize for instalation debian testing - netinst |
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| 17:28.21 | ehnde | thewanderer1: yes, the install process put wlan0 into /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:28.47 | marcelomauro | thewanderer1: when in install process there are no question about this |
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| 17:30.27 | thewanderer1 | ehnde, try commenting out the relevent stanzas and restart network-manager, it should begin to manage the interfaces |
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| 17:31.19 | marcelomauro | thewanderer1: I will try again and I will describe for you, ok? |
| 17:31.32 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, yeah, I can't help unless I get more context |
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| 17:35.48 | ehnde | i don't see my wireless NIC available for configuration inside of nm-applet after restart it, but it may be that i need to reset networking and log in and out of gnome |
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| 17:36.00 | ehnde | probably will get disconnected during this process, but i'm grateful for the help |
| 17:36.03 | ehnde | thanks thewanderer1 |
| 17:36.13 | thewanderer1 | ehnde, try rebooting even |
| 17:36.17 | thewanderer1 | just to be sure |
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| 17:37.43 | Guest38486 | ok |
| 17:38.01 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, wait, you said you're using Debian Testing... |
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| 17:38.41 | marcelomauro | yes |
| 17:40.00 | marcelomauro | But I have tryed with others SO (Ubuntu) and i get no sucess too |
| 17:40.02 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, you shouldn't be doing that... download the stable ISO |
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| 17:52.45 | ompaul | marcelomauro: what hardware have you got? |
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| 17:54.07 | marcelomauro | ompaul: one desktop and laptop... intel dual core 5400 2.6 and intel i5 2.4 |
| 17:54.30 | ompaul | which one are you trying to install on? |
| 17:54.40 | marcelomauro | both |
| 17:55.00 | marcelomauro | on desktop I eliminate all hd |
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| 17:55.19 | ompaul | which one right now are you describing problems on, and what install media did you choose? |
| 17:55.20 | marcelomauro | on laptop I cant do that |
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| 17:55.44 | marcelomauro | on desktop in pendrive 4gb |
| 17:55.49 | ompaul | marcelomauro: is the desktop working? |
| 17:56.05 | marcelomauro | the grub cant be installed |
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| 17:56.20 | marcelomauro | in both |
| 17:56.55 | boudiccas | marcelomauro; do they, or have they, got windows 7 on? |
| 17:57.02 | marcelomauro | I am trying again, now on internet |
| 17:57.16 | marcelomauro | I am on win7 ow |
| 17:57.20 | marcelomauro | now |
| 17:57.45 | thewanderer1 | it vaguely sounds to me like "MBR anti-virus protection" enabled in BIOS |
| 17:57.49 | boudiccas | i wonder if win7 does something to the mbr which locks other things out of it? |
| 17:57.54 | ompaul | marcelomauro: you have to pick one which you want to install this second - you have 7 booted and so we can work on the other one, what have you booted? |
| 17:57.58 | marcelomauro | but I wan not install grub o main hd |
| 17:58.15 | ompaul | marcelomauro: that line does not make sense |
| 17:58.20 | boudiccas | marcelomauro; what? |
| 17:58.20 | ompaul | please say again |
| 17:58.40 | marcelomauro | heheh, i'm Brazil, heheheh |
| 17:58.59 | boudiccas | marcelomauro; so, doesnt stop you speaking english! |
| 17:59.20 | marcelomauro | I wan't to install grub on first hd |
| 17:59.38 | ompaul | marcelomauro: what version of debian are you trying to install on the i5 ? |
| 17:59.45 | marcelomauro | want not intall |
| 17:59.53 | ompaul | then what do you want? |
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| 18:00.07 | marcelomauro | debian testing - netinst |
| 18:00.29 | ompaul | you must install it on something does that make sense? |
| 18:00.41 | marcelomauro | I would have one pendrive independent for anywhere I run the debian |
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| 18:01.11 | ompaul | eh netinst is an install media not a live cd |
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| 18:01.18 | ompaul | or am I missing something |
| 18:01.25 | thewanderer1 | from what I understand, he wants to install Debian on a pendrive, but the GRUB install is failing |
| 18:01.31 | marcelomauro | I want not a live cd |
| 18:01.48 | marcelomauro | thewanderer1: yes |
| 18:01.59 | thewanderer1 | so I'm suspecting: a) BIOS MBR protection, or b) general TESTING brokenness |
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| 18:02.42 | marcelomauro | I have tryed on pendrive (4gb) and extern hd 500gb. It's the same |
| 18:02.52 | thewanderer1 | and since Ubuntu was failing to install GRUB as well, let's investigate the MBR protection... |
| 18:03.12 | ompaul | thewanderer1: may I pm you? |
| 18:03.22 | thewanderer1 | ok |
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| 18:04.06 | marcelomauro | thewanderer1: I have no try to install ubuntu on desktop yet. In it I can eliminate other hard drivers. I will try it now... but I want debian, no ubuntu |
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| 18:05.05 | marcelomauro | In this moment I trayng to install again but with internet on. Give more time for feedback |
| 18:05.08 | zastaph | creating a .bash_profile seemd to make my .bashrc not being called |
| 18:05.12 | ompaul | marcelomauro: please talk only to thewanderer1 for a while - and use only one piece of hardware ok - I strongly suggest that you try to set ot up on the desktop |
| 18:05.25 | ompaul | marcelomauro: I guess the i5 is the laptop am I right? |
| 18:05.43 | marcelomauro | yes |
| 18:05.54 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, okay, so let's switch to the desktop |
| 18:06.11 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, you should use Stable, not Testing CD for installation, Testing might have bugs |
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| 18:07.39 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, are you trying to install Ubuntu from the desktop on the pendrive now? |
| 18:07.55 | marcelomauro | no, the debian |
| 18:08.05 | marcelomauro | but now with internet on |
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| 18:08.30 | dacu | I have a windows7 Machine - I want to backup this machine - Erase everything - Install Debian Squeeze - then Install KVM libvirt and create a virtual machine where I can restore the Windows7 machine - therefore run it as a virtual machine - I need a way to backup windows so I can restore it as kvm virtual machine (.img) |
| 18:08.50 | marcelomauro | It must download 1000 files yet |
| 18:08.50 | ajikeshi_ | dacu, wbadm |
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| 18:09.01 | ajikeshi_ | dacu, or go search for WAIK |
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| 18:11.42 | dacu | ajikeshi: I thought is some japaneze poetry with this wbadm and waik - but they seem that this is what I need |
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| 18:12.07 | dacu | ajikeshi_ thanks |
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| 18:13.38 | thewanderer1 | wow, I'd have suggested simply dumping a compressed disk image somewhere, but what do I know :P |
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| 18:14.15 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 18:15.54 | nooodl | wols: concerning that problem i had earlier... |
| 18:16.05 | nooodl | maybe i should just install the new linux kernel? |
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| 18:16.17 | dacu | thewanderer1: I used to to this kind of stuff with tar - and I forgot - that time I needed a simple way to restore from barebone - but I want now to make it a virtual machine |
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| 18:16.42 | dacu | basically, I have a physical machine running window7 and I want to make it a virtual machine in kvm |
| 18:17.02 | nooodl | that just seems a bit drastic for just getting this stupid wlan chip to work |
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| 18:18.20 | thewanderer1 | dacu, you know, it's possible to convert a raw disk dump to a compressed qcow2 file |
| 18:18.40 | thewanderer1 | or even run your VM from the raw dump, without any conversion |
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| 18:18.44 | Caelum | how do I change the domain that's in the From: address with ssmtp? |
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| 18:19.25 | dacu | thewanderer1, seems very familiar - so to create that rawdiskdump I should use what ? |
| 18:19.51 | Bushmills | i suppose you don't. you pick or create a different sender account in your email client |
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| 18:20.06 | thewanderer1 | dacu, dd? :P |
| 18:20.06 | Caelum | oh there's a hostname entry in ssmtp.conf |
| 18:20.56 | Gen_Patton | NFS kernel, How does one install it? |
| 18:20.57 | thewanderer1 | dacu, and yes, the dump of the disk will take the whole capacity of the disk :) |
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| 18:21.25 | dacu | the wanderer: so I take off the hard disk with the working windows7 - get it and hook it as a slave or external devide - then in debian machine what should I ddo |
| 18:21.45 | odn | hello :) |
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| 18:22.06 | dacu | the wanderer- if I shrink the windows7 partition to a smaller size - would that part will be dumped ? |
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| 18:22.43 | thewanderer1 | dacu, a disk dump is a disk dump, dumps everything |
| 18:22.56 | odn | i'm trying to build a light debian(testing) based live cd. i've rem /usr/share/doc, and split the binaries. iso size = 550 Mo. any other ideas ? |
| 18:23.37 | thewanderer1 | odn: remove various apt stuff that you're not gonna use on liveCD - indexes, package cache |
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| 18:24.02 | thewanderer1 | dacu, so a dump from a 80GB disk will take 80GB of space |
| 18:24.23 | thewanderer1 | dacu, but then you can just keep using the old disk and run from that... |
| 18:24.41 | odn | thewanderer1, i started from a minimal install, i just have the core, a minimal gnome and 3 or 4 more apps. |
| 18:25.10 | thewanderer1 | odn, still, purge the apt indexes and package cache |
| 18:25.12 | odn | and the goal is to do an installable live cd, so i need all the basic stuff... |
| 18:25.23 | thewanderer1 | odn, indexes are recoverable |
| 18:25.51 | thewanderer1 | odn, also "a minimal gnome" is an oxymoron, you won't get a small liveCD with GNOME :P |
| 18:26.16 | odn | thewanderer1, that's an idea thx :) (known apt-cache comand to do that ?) |
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| 18:26.45 | thewanderer1 | odn, I don't know, I always use rm :P |
| 18:26.51 | valdyn | odn: why testing and not stable? |
| 18:27.31 | odn | valdyn, i've had issues with stable kernel. but my script could be used to build a stable iso too. |
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| 18:27.39 | dacu | thewanderer1: I need to run that Windows7 as a virtual machine - I do not think that is possible - you need to recreate the environment in kvm - but now that you said it I am not so sure about it |
| 18:27.47 | odn | there're missing firmwares in current stable kernel |
| 18:27.58 | valdyn | odn: i suggest you do stable + backports - theres plenty newer kernels |
| 18:28.06 | odn | and not "official" ones. |
| 18:28.31 | thewanderer1 | dacu, I run a VM using a physical disk hooked up to KVM |
| 18:29.10 | valdyn | dacu: thats pretty easy except for one issue, windows boot manager including its disk controller drivers |
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| 18:29.18 | odn | valdyn, ok, next time i'll do with the stable version and see what linux-image i can find in backports |
| 18:29.30 | thewanderer1 | valdyn, I'm not sure if this is current as of Windows 7... with XP, true |
| 18:30.30 | valdyn | its the same with 7, if the driver isnt in the boot manager ( i dont know how it works exactly ), then it wont boot |
| 18:30.43 | thewanderer1 | oh, ok |
| 18:30.50 | odn | and thewanderer1 i know gnome is quite easy, i've a version with xfce too... but i use gnome for my everyday OS |
| 18:31.01 | valdyn | thewanderer1: its probably pretty similar to the system linux uses with the initrd |
| 18:31.12 | valdyn | thewanderer1: except that linux has all the drivers in the initrd |
| 18:31.19 | thewanderer1 | yeah yeah |
| 18:31.36 | thewanderer1 | for reference: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows - this MergeIDE tool applies to KVM too |
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| 18:32.32 | thewanderer1 | dacu, so you can use a physical disk or a file as a "virtual disk" for KVM if you want to run Windows 7 in that |
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| 18:35.17 | dacu | thewandere1: that is so great - less headache - I will just add an additional hard disk |
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| 18:36.51 | dacu | the wanderer, so you are telling me that if I have the harddisk with windows7 running - I should just add it to a linux machine which has debian kvm libvirt - and run the windows7 |
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| 18:38.04 | jmanuel_cool | please, can someone help me to install debian on a netbook with arm's processor and a NAND memory with embebded windows CE |
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| 18:41.05 | dacu | jmanuel_cool, you have to ask a concrete question you want to be answered - the way you put seem that you want training/tutoring - it is very unlikely you will get so detail help - but you should start with specific questions - is not clear whether you want to do a dual booting or what ? |
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| 18:41.37 | zak_ | what command shall i use to see if there were any intrusions to my lappy |
| 18:43.05 | jmanuel_cool | dacu, first, i apologize because my englihs is so bad, now i wan't install only linux (preferred debian or derivative) |
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| 18:43.59 | jmanuel_cool | dacu, do you understand me? i wan't kill windows and have only debian |
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| 18:46.31 | babilen | dacu: Which laptop are you installing on? What are the actual problems you run into? |
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| 18:47.26 | dacu | babilen: I have a workstation with window7 on it - but I want to convert that physical machine with Windows 7 in a virtual machine - which I can run it in Debian with KVM and libvirt |
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| 18:48.25 | dacu | jmanuel_cool, do you have utp network cable or only wifi to your netbook ? |
| 18:48.32 | babilen | argh, I mean jmanuel_cool :) |
| 18:48.35 | dacu | do you have a cd |
| 18:48.51 | jmanuel_cool | dacu, i have connected it with network cable |
| 18:49.15 | babilen | jmanuel_cool: What are the actual problem you are running into? Which laptop are you installing on? |
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| 18:50.00 | dacu | I did not install it in arm - but then I think you should go and burn an network install and get the http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst aremel small sc |
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| 18:50.48 | dacu | jmanuel_cool, just in case you change your mind - I would backup (create restore disks for your windows in case you want to reinstall it later) |
| 18:50.50 | tyoc213 | how can I set connection time out system wide? because I have some problems with an apache server that connects to another server which is answer is after 2 minutes |
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| 18:54.49 | jmanuel_cool | dacu, i have backup ready |
| 18:56.10 | jmanuel_cool | babilen, my problem is my children's netbook, i want to install debian (preferred) or another linux |
| 18:56.45 | dacu | jmanuel_cool, http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ and http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/armel/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-armel-netinst.iso - but as I said I did not install it myself in arm - and will not hang around much today - but there are so many experts here |
| 18:56.58 | jmanuel_cool | babilen, it's an arm processor and have a NAND memory wich have a embebded Windows CE |
| 18:57.41 | dacu | jmanuel_cool, just download that file - burn on cd boot the computer from that CD and follow instructions - is preety easy and you can choose any language you are confortable with |
| 18:57.50 | jmanuel_cool | dacu, i tried this, but netbook haven't a button to select boot |
| 18:58.07 | dacu | you have to go to bios and change options |
| 18:58.36 | dacu | to boot or prompt from external devices - usb stick or cd |
| 18:58.39 | babilen | jmanuel_cool: Do you have more information about the netbook such as a name for example? |
| 18:58.46 | dacu | lol |
| 18:58.53 | jmanuel_cool | dacu, netbook haven bios options, system is embebded like a tablet |
| 18:59.14 | dacu | oh - screwed to max |
| 18:59.19 | babilen | jmanuel_cool: Can you change the boot device in the BIOS? |
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| 19:00.16 | jmanuel_cool | babilen "iview-700NB: 256RAM; storage 1Gb; processor: VIA 250Mhz ARM926EJ-S RISC" |
| 19:00.19 | babilen | Ah, "haven" is probably "no BIOS" -- Sounds as if you would need to flash it. Please provide more information as there *might* be a way, but I wouldn't count on it. |
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| 19:00.26 | babilen | jmanuel_cool: Thanks |
| 19:00.34 | dacu | jmanuel_cool get the manual of the netbook and read it - is there - call the manufacturer etc - google your howto install debian linux netbookofjmanuel_cool |
| 19:00.35 | MrCTP | hi all |
| 19:00.44 | jmanuel_cool | babilen, i can't choose |
| 19:01.23 | jmanuel_cool | dacu, haven= haven't sorry |
| 19:02.23 | renanpantoja | debian is not recognizing my accent in text mode there can someone help me ...? |
| 19:02.23 | renanpantoja | It is well: Ã?rea de Trabalho Documentos Downloads Imagens ircd Música Modelos Público VÃÂdeos |
| 19:02.23 | dacu | howto install linux iview-700NB |
| 19:03.38 | babilen | jmanuel_cool: I would be surprised if you can install Debian on that device easily. You certainly need some third-party firmware that you can flash to it (as detailed for windows in http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCMQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fiviewus.com%2Fadmin%2Ffile_upload%2F20100709135849file.pdf&ei=QeE-TrucN4jDhAelrLiLAg&usg=AFQjCNGgiVjv-H0ChOKPk7GwuGK--3T4FA |
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| 19:04.17 | jmanuel_cool | babilen, but its possible |
| 19:04.30 | babilen | jmanuel_cool: Are you sure? What makes you think that? |
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| 19:04.54 | babilen | I am not saying that it is not possible, but I haven't found much information that confirms that claim. |
| 19:05.06 | renanpantoja | debian is not recognizing my accent in text mode there can someone help me ...? |
| 19:05.07 | renanpantoja | It is well: Ã?rea de Trabalho Documentos Downloads Imagens ircd Música Modelos Público VÃÂdeos |
| 19:05.20 | jmanuel_cool | babilen, i forgott symbols: but its possible???? |
| 19:06.42 | babilen | jmanuel_cool: There surely is a way, but it might mean a lot of time to get it done. Insofar I haven't found any information from people who are working on that. |
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| 19:08.43 | MrCTP | can someone help a newbie? I installed since a few days debian amd64 6.0.2.1 and i have some problem with autentication in several website.. |
| 19:09.08 | jmanuel_cool | babilen, gracias |
| 19:09.19 | jmanuel_cool | babilen, thanks a lot |
| 19:10.06 | ompaul | MrCTP: some problem but you can see the rest of the internet ok? |
| 19:10.54 | thewanderer1 | I wonder what "problem with authentication" means |
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| 19:11.39 | MrCTP | i put username and password |
| 19:11.42 | MrCTP | and then |
| 19:11.46 | MrCTP | nothing more... |
| 19:12.01 | MrCTP | in websites like www.190.it www.poste.it www.univpm.it |
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| 19:12.26 | MrCTP | in windows is ok |
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| 19:12.34 | jason404 | how do I merge a .diff.gz to the main orig.tar.gz ? |
| 19:12.44 | MrCTP | i tried iceweals and epiphany |
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| 19:12.50 | ompaul | MrCTP: check out if you are blocking scripts |
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| 19:13.26 | dfc | how do I print the list of build-deps for a package? |
| 19:13.49 | jetscreamer | !patch |
| 19:13.49 | dpkg | it has been said that patch is just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1' |
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| 19:14.27 | jason404 | jetscreamer: is that for me? |
| 19:14.42 | jetscreamer | think so |
| 19:14.42 | dfc | i want to get see a list of the buid-deps for emacs23. i tried running apt-get build-dep emacs23 but i got an error about dependencies "libtiff4-dev : Depends: libjpeg-dev" |
| 19:14.50 | jason404 | thanks |
| 19:14.52 | MrCTP | how i can check blocking scripts? |
| 19:14.59 | jetscreamer | preferences |
| 19:15.18 | jetscreamer | about:config |
| 19:15.55 | MrCTP | java and javascripts are allowed.. |
| 19:16.11 | jason404 | jetscreamer: but this is not for a kernel patch, just an application. do the inscructions still apply? |
| 19:16.44 | jetscreamer | should, try man patch.. i just know what you use, never done it |
| 19:16.53 | Mr-R | jason404: extract the tar.gz and change in the extracted dir. then try the patch-commands... |
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| 19:17.20 | Gen_Patton | I can't seem to mget the nfs hosted home directory on my server hostname+"taylor" to ,mount on hostname="shannon" desktop howvere i have thhe following line in my /etc/fstab file 192.168.X.109:/home /mnt/home nfs rw,user.sync,hard,intr o o but i rebooted about three times and no auto mount. the nfs kernel driver and nfs utils packages are install as per the article on debian admin. |
| 19:17.36 | jason404 | Mr-R: okay. thanks |
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| 19:18.12 | jetscreamer | nfs always worked for me if i turned off the firewalls |
| 19:18.19 | rtr- | gen_patton what says mount -a |
| 19:18.22 | jetscreamer | course, who wants to do that |
| 19:22.52 | ompaul | wols: would you care to annouce to this channel that I ompaul has been wrong in the past |
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| 19:23.18 | ompaul | someone asked me a q in pm and I'd rather be in public so people could catch it if I screw up |
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| 19:24.11 | MrCTP | fi fu fa |
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| 19:25.35 | ompaul | MrCTP: that much is good do you have no script or some such installed? |
| 19:25.37 | jetscreamer | !wols abuse |
| 19:25.41 | MrCTP | about my problem with authentication in some website.. i got problem with amsn too.. don't know if this could be related |
| 19:25.58 | ompaul | abuses jetscreamer |
| 19:26.36 | MrCTP | i think i have nothing strange installed.. i'm new to debian |
| 19:26.42 | MrCTP | i tried different browser too |
| 19:26.47 | ompaul | MrCTP: noscript is not strange ;-) |
| 19:27.38 | neodragon | Hi, first debian install ever, However not new to linux. Doing and expert install, I was reading through the installation docs and when I get to the part about picking the kernel to install it gives me the choice of linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 or linux-image-2.6-amd64. Is the 2.6-amd64 simply a meta package for whatever the latest kernel is in the repos or what, and which should I install? |
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| 19:27.48 | MrCTP | i mean.. i have not custom nothing.. |
| 19:28.04 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 19:28.09 | mjt | neodragon: yes it's a metapackage |
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| 19:28.31 | jetscreamer | it's a matter of taste, metapackage is the default |
| 19:28.34 | ompaul | MrCTP: so then the question is what is happening |
| 19:28.42 | jetscreamer | auto upgrade when available |
| 19:29.01 | MrCTP | really strange.. i can log in in google.. and in hotmail.. |
| 19:29.18 | neodragon | mjt: so I am assuming it is a newer version of the kernel then the 2.6.32-5 |
| 19:29.29 | ompaul | MrCTP: maybe they don't like your browser |
| 19:29.34 | jetscreamer | some websites don't like linux |
| 19:29.34 | mjt | neodragon: not really |
| 19:29.38 | neodragon | OK |
| 19:30.00 | neodragon | so it helps with upgrading the kernel then, am I right |
| 19:30.00 | ompaul | MrCTP: not that I could consider this a long term answer but try chromium |
| 19:30.06 | mjt | neodragon: during install it finds that 2.6.32 and generic 2.6 that points to that same 2.6.32 |
| 19:30.12 | jetscreamer | when -6 comes out it will be upgraded |
| 19:30.23 | MrCTP | chronium, i try |
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| 19:30.40 | jetscreamer | if you only explictly install -5 it's up to you to do |
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| 19:31.01 | jetscreamer | try konquer if you're running kde |
| 19:31.07 | jetscreamer | or however you spell it |
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| 19:31.27 | boudiccas | konqueror |
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| 19:31.44 | neodragon | well this is going to be a webserver not sure I want to upgrade it that often |
| 19:31.47 | jetscreamer | you 'could' try the firefox from mozilla.com but that's not supported |
| 19:32.04 | jetscreamer | then you'd be running stable neodragon and yes you would |
| 19:32.13 | jetscreamer | security patches |
| 19:32.38 | neodragon | you are correct, forgot about that |
| 19:33.01 | mjt | but both choices will pull security updates ;) |
| 19:33.19 | ompaul | MrCTP: there is #debian-it and they would most likely have more experience of these things I'd guess |
| 19:33.32 | neodragon | definitely want to keep my server secure |
| 19:33.47 | neodragon | thanks for clearing that up |
| 19:34.14 | neodragon | thanks mjt and jetscreamer |
| 19:34.32 | MrCTP | and what about amsn problem? sometimes it gives me "disconnected, logged in another location" and sometimes it gives me server error |
| 19:35.56 | neodragon | I will be back if I run into any problems. thanks again! |
| 19:37.50 | mjt | MrCTP: it's just firefox, a browser used by millions of users worldwide, it works the same way on windows and on linux. |
| 19:37.56 | nooodl | headdesks |
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| 19:38.14 | nooodl | this usb drive is called "NORTON 360" |
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| 19:38.22 | mjt | times when sites checked your MSIE version are long gone |
| 19:38.34 | mjt | (refusing to work if itt's not msie) |
| 19:38.48 | nooodl | error: "/media/NORTON: No such file or directory" |
| 19:38.59 | nooodl | seems like $(PWD) is not escaping filenames |
| 19:39.09 | nooodl | can i force it to do so? |
| 19:39.10 | mjt | it does not |
| 19:39.30 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.33 | mjt | there are double quotes for that |
| 19:39.43 | nooodl | mjt: right, thanks |
| 19:39.50 | nooodl | i'll just edit the makefile |
| 19:39.53 | mjt | btw, what _is_ $(PWD) |
| 19:39.59 | mjt | ah, makefile |
| 19:40.37 | petemc | why would you want the output of PWD executed? |
| 19:40.52 | mjt | that's backwards petemc |
| 19:41.02 | petemc | oh right |
| 19:41.42 | mjt | exec'ing output of PWD will be, like, $($(PWD)) or eval $(PWD) |
| 19:41.43 | nooodl | screw it, i'm moving these files elsewhere then making them from there :) |
| 19:42.44 | mjt | lots of various pieces of software on unix are not prepared for filenames with spaces in them |
| 19:43.00 | mjt | including tons of shell scripts, makefiles and the like |
| 19:43.37 | nooodl | "make: execvp: ./scripts/check_config.sh: Permission denied" |
| 19:43.41 | nooodl | i'm root, what the heck is going on |
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| 19:43.51 | mjt | it does not have x bit |
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| 19:44.12 | nooodl | oh, chmod |
| 19:44.32 | mjt | even as root you can't execute a random file |
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| 19:54.34 | punker | Hi |
| 19:54.38 | punker | I need help |
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| 19:55.05 | babilen | punker: Ask a question and we have a chance to answer it. Our crystal balls are good, but not that good. |
| 19:55.18 | punker | I have this problem |
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| 19:55.33 | boudiccas | PEBKAC |
| 19:55.34 | punker | GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd-glib2.0_2.28.6-1-i386-A3fp41/glib2.0-2.28.6/./gio/gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL) |
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| 19:55.55 | john___ | hello |
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| 19:56.12 | junix659 | i just read up on the multi-arch for the next release of debian....can I do a multi-arch install (full install) instead network isntall?? |
| 19:56.32 | john___ | I replaced Listen to Port 631 in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf but still cannot connect to cups from a computer in the LAN |
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| 19:57.03 | jhutchins_lt | john___: You need to tell it to listen on the public address instead of just localhost. |
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| 19:57.30 | john___ | I thought that Port 631 will do that |
| 19:58.15 | john___ | Listen 0.0.0.0:631 yields no success either |
| 19:58.53 | john___ | Listening to a specific addres is not possible as it is issued by dhcp |
| 19:58.54 | Gen_Patton | damn nfs is a pits on remote home directories |
| 19:59.12 | thewanderer1 | Gen_Patton, works for me :P |
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| 19:59.46 | babilen | !tell punker -about smart questions |
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| 20:00.34 | babilen | punker: Please explain what you are doing to cause that error, what you are expecting and provide as much information as possible. If possible provide that information on http://paste.debian.net so we can take a look at it. |
| 20:00.34 | jhutchins_lt | john___: I think it's the allow/deny in <Location> |
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| 20:01.27 | john___ | Location / has Allow all |
| 20:01.59 | jhutchins_lt | john___: No, sorry, it's Allow remote access, which is commented. |
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| 20:02.11 | punker | babilen, sorry, Ok, this problem is becouse I want run gedit in "su" |
| 20:02.26 | jhutchins_lt | ...but still lets me in... |
| 20:02.30 | babilen | punker: Use "gksu" or "gksudo" |
| 20:02.30 | punker | I'm mexican |
| 20:02.32 | thewanderer1 | john___, this is my working CUPS file which allows remote access: http://paste.debian.net/125409/ |
| 20:02.48 | john___ | ok, I try--thanks |
| 20:02.52 | punker | babilen, I tried too, but is the same |
| 20:03.11 | punker | root@debian:/home/punker# gksudo gedit |
| 20:03.11 | punker | ** |
| 20:03.11 | punker | GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd-glib2.0_2.28.6-1-i386-A3fp41/glib2.0-2.28.6/./gio/gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL) |
| 20:03.20 | jhutchins_lt | john___: Did you restart the server? |
| 20:03.24 | john___ | yes |
| 20:03.48 | jhutchins_lt | john___: Does it refuse the connection or not allow login? |
| 20:03.54 | john___ | it refuses connection |
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| 20:04.29 | jhutchins_lt | john___: Do you have access on the host? |
| 20:04.33 | babilen | punker: Which version of Debian is that? Which version of gedit? Can you run other GUI programs with gksudo? Can you run gedit without it? |
| 20:04.43 | john___ | jhutchins_lt: yes |
| 20:04.54 | john___ | wait |
| 20:04.59 | jhutchins_lt | john___: Mine appears to have been configured to share printers and allow remote printing on the Administration tab of the web interrface. |
| 20:05.02 | john___ | the problem was that update-rc.d didn't work |
| 20:05.12 | john___ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.13 | john___ | -_- |
| 20:05.15 | john___ | thanks |
| 20:05.24 | punker | babilen, debian sid, and I can run gedit but in root not |
| 20:05.33 | jhutchins_lt | john___: No help from me, but glad you got it working. |
| 20:06.10 | babilen | punker: Ah, I assumed that you are running squeeze. One second please, I'll try to reproduce it. |
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| 20:08.26 | punker | babilen, thanks |
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| 20:10.03 | babilen | punker: Hmm, gedit is currently in the 3.0 transition and I can therefore not install it due to serious bugs. Which version do you have installed? btw: Do you know about the #debian-next channel on irc.oftc.net that provides wheezy/sid support? |
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| 20:12.57 | punker | I have version 2.30.4 gedit, I'll join in oftc.net, thank you babilen |
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| 20:14.18 | tuv | great. collectd is not in testing |
| 20:18.37 | Giru | Hi all. I'd like your opinion on this: I have a Debian Squeeze server with a lot of free CPU time. So I want to use it to do my video transcoding stuff. I'm using ffmpeg (from debian-multimedia repo), x264, vobcopy and mediainfo to do almost everything I want. The problem is ffmpeg does not handle dvd well and I have a VOB file that contains menu-related stuff AND a part of audio/video stream: when I probe the file (ffprobe) for soundtracks, I g |
| 20:18.37 | Giru | ot nothing. mediainfo gives me everything right but I can't have ffmpeg working on this file. Then my question is: do you know of any light CLI software (*not* mplayer or avidemux: I have nothing against dbus or avahi, but it's useless to actually transcode video) that would be able to demux the file or tell me between what and what dd? |
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| 20:23.13 | montezaus | do you know a successful package to uncompress rar files? I installed unrar-free and unp without success |
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| 20:24.04 | Mr-R | montezaus: try unrar from non-free |
| 20:24.56 | montezaus | should i pay anything for that? |
| 20:25.24 | Mr-R | montezaus: nope. got version "UNRAR 3.93 freeware" here |
| 20:25.42 | john___ | montezaus: try 7zip |
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| 20:26.03 | montezaus | thanks! |
| 20:26.16 | Mr-R | montezaus: non-free as in "no free source" |
| 20:26.31 | john___ | 7z is open source AFAIK |
| 20:26.48 | nooodl | 7z is great |
| 20:26.48 | Mr-R | sure. but unrar from non-free isnt. :) |
| 20:26.54 | Giru | john___: not the rar plugin |
| 20:27.03 | montezaus | i see. what should i write to the command window, apt-get install unrar non-free ? |
| 20:27.13 | john___ | oh, ok--didn't know that--thanks for pointing it out |
| 20:27.44 | Giru | nop |
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| 20:28.53 | Giru | montezaus: AFAIK, you have to add the non-free keyword in /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 20:30.18 | Giru | and then search in synaptic/aptitude/apt-get for "unrar" (without '-free') or "p7zip-rar" |
| 20:31.19 | zulu7 | wanted to ask this in #openbox but it is invite only. Have you got any experience with cairo-dock under openbox? Does it well integrate? |
| 20:32.03 | montezaus | thanks for your help, appreciated! |
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| 20:33.18 | Giru | Nobody for my transcoding related question? Any idea of a more appropriate channel? |
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| 20:35.08 | zulu7 | Giro, what are you about to transcode? (I just joined the channel) |
| 20:35.15 | babilen | !tell montezaus about non-free sources |
| 20:36.44 | babilen | montezaus: After you've done that you can install unrar which is the <non-free> version as opposed to unrar-free |
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| 20:37.22 | Giru | Basically, I want to transcode stuff on a remote headless server. I made an iso out of one of my DVD this afternoon and tried to transcode it. The problem is when I merge the proper video/audio-related vob files, ffmpeg (that I use to transcode) can't find my audiostreams anymore. |
| 20:37.50 | shadow193 | Hi all is there any battery indicator for openbox? |
| 20:38.23 | HardDisk_WP | how do i replace the string foo.bar.tld with baz.tld in all files inside a directory? |
| 20:39.22 | daemonkeeper | rename is your friend |
| 20:39.37 | daemonkeeper | no, misread, sed -i |
| 20:40.19 | Giru | zulu7: I could try mplayer, transcoder or avidemux to extract the audio streams but the dependencies are really too big (I don't need avahi, dbus and stuff to transcode a video, do I?) so I'd rather stick with ffmpeg. |
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| 20:40.28 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: find -exec + sed -i'' -e 's/foo\.bar\.tld/baz.tld/g' -- see /msg dpkg find tutorial |
| 20:40.34 | zulu7 | Giru, maybe ask in #ffmpeg |
| 20:40.36 | HardDisk_WP | thx |
| 20:40.52 | wols | ompaul: you getting something wrong? never! |
| 20:41.08 | ompaul | wols: damn you took your time ;-) |
| 20:41.20 | ompaul | complains about missing commas |
| 20:41.34 | Giru | zulu7, Already done that: "ffmpeg does not handle DVDs, it's working on audio/video streams". |
| 20:41.43 | ompaul | !dvd |
| 20:41.43 | dpkg | [dvd] Digital Versatile Disc. To play a video DVD, ask me about <dvd playback>, then use either <totem>, <vlc>, <xine> or <mplayer>. To burn a DVD, ask me about <wodim> or <growisofs>. To download Debian DVD images, ask me about <iso> and <small dvd>. To buy Debian DVDs, ask me about <vendors>. To copy/rip/transcode DVD video, ask me about <dvd ripping>. |
| 20:41.46 | wols | contrary to popular belief, I don't live in #d |
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| 20:41.54 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: Ah, I meant "/msg dpkg using find" |
| 20:41.59 | ompaul | wols: I think you are bluffing ;-) |
| 20:42.06 | zulu7 | Giru, but maybe those guys know better where else to ask since these topics are akin |
| 20:42.13 | krakrjak | rename 's/foo\.bar\.tld/bas.tld' files |
| 20:42.18 | nooodl | wols: i didn't thank you for your help earlier |
| 20:42.32 | krakrjak | typo fix -> rename 's/foo\.bar\.tld/bas.tld.' files |
| 20:42.38 | babilen | krakrjak: That will rename the files not edit them in place. |
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| 20:43.02 | krakrjak | babilen: ahh contents.... I misread too. |
| 20:43.09 | Giru | zulu7 Yes... I asked there to check if someone knew of another software that could do the job. |
| 20:43.25 | nooodl | compat-wireless is not compiling correctly, for some reason; what could cause that? |
| 20:43.50 | nooodl | the releases are almost daily but i've checked today's and one from last week |
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| 20:44.22 | wols | nooodl: what are the error(s)? |
| 20:44.32 | nooodl | both give the same errors. "previous definition of 'rc80211_pid_init' was here" |
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| 20:44.43 | Giru | zulu7 Anyway, thanks for your help: I'll gi back to ffmpeg and mplayer to see what I get. |
| 20:44.44 | nooodl | same for rc80211_pid_exit |
| 20:45.02 | nooodl | this is on last week's version, but today's had the same issue |
| 20:45.06 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: Can you figure it out? I basically meant "find /path/to/files -exec sed -i'' -e 's/foo\.bar\.tld/baz.tld/g' {} \;" -- remove the '' after -i if you want to keep the originals around. |
| 20:45.19 | nooodl | i manually tweaked the #defines for a while but that's just wrong |
| 20:45.20 | zulu7 | Giro, guess you will need to wait |
| 20:45.40 | Giru | yep |
| 20:45.59 | wols | nooodl: maybe the debian kernel is too old. I used compat around a month ago just fine tho |
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| 20:46.14 | wols | but that doesn't help you since back then there was no realtek driver in compat |
| 20:46.41 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: See http://joemaller.com/823/quick-note-about-seds-edit-in-place-option/ for a short discussion of the -i'' if that is unclear -- #sed will know more ;) |
| 20:46.45 | HardDisk_WP | thx |
| 20:46.55 | nooodl | it looks like it's installing a lot more than just realtek drivers |
| 20:47.14 | nooodl | i ran ./scripts/driver-select but it doesn't seem to affect the installation a lot |
| 20:47.14 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: I would try that on a test dataset first though, in case it is not doing what you expect. |
| 20:47.28 | HardDisk_WP | i'll make backups |
| 20:47.50 | wols | nooodl: yes it updates all mac80211 drivers and bluetooth too |
| 20:47.50 | nooodl | wols: so, upgrading my kernel version might fix the problem, right? |
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| 20:48.02 | nooodl | because that might not be a bad idea at this point |
| 20:48.02 | wols | ,kernels |
| 20:48.03 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-1); wheezy: 2.6.39-2-686-pae (2.6.39-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny3) |
| 20:48.12 | wols | nooodl: getting the backports kernel, yes |
| 20:48.27 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:49.23 | Eval_Sanchez | what's the best way to compress a pdf? |
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| 20:52.05 | nooodl | wols: can i just get one package from http://backports-master.debian.org ? |
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| 20:52.20 | wols | !tell nooodl about backports |
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| 20:53.03 | Featurefreak | Hi folks, i'm looking to setup a firewall on a debian vm I'm working on in college |
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| 20:53.26 | Featurefreak | so we can take control of the port openings available to us, the college have us locked down and takes 2 weeks any time we need a change |
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| 20:54.05 | Featurefreak | so they said if we config our iptables, we can be set loose from the college firewall rules. |
| 20:54.19 | Featurefreak | of course at our own risk, but it's killing our deliverables when we need ports changes |
| 20:55.05 | Featurefreak | is there a good place I go to get a good quickstart guide to iptables on debian? So I can get it done in the next hour or so |
| 20:55.35 | dvs | Featurefreak: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
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| 20:57.12 | HardDisk_WP | babilen, uh, the command find htdocs -exec sed -i'' -e 's/foo\.bar\.tld/baz.tld/g' {} \; didnt work... is the - a regex symbol?7 |
| 20:57.18 | HardDisk_WP | both domains contain a hyphen |
| 20:57.24 | nooodl | wols: there's no compat-wireless package in there |
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| 20:59.51 | nooodl | am i just really bad at all of this or is it really hard :) |
| 21:00.49 | Featurefreak | dvs, hmm, looks promising, if a little terse, ok thanks |
| 21:00.55 | dvs | np |
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| 21:01.20 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: Works beautifully here -- You probably want to restrict find further to only consider files (-type f) -- but what is the actual error you get. You can also run the sed command on a single test file first. I just confirmed that it works. http://paste.debian.net/125411/ |
| 21:01.38 | nooodl | i've been at this for about 4-5 hours now and can't install one small driver. it's really frustrating |
| 21:01.55 | petn-randall | Hi, is anyone running the 3.0 kernel on squeeze? If so, do I need to fix up any packages so it works with one less version number? |
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| 21:02.53 | DasEi | petn-randall: running is said too much, I installed it on one of my vm's and had no issue, but no daily use |
| 21:03.22 | dvs | petn-randall: I'm using it on squeeze and I haven't had any major problems. |
| 21:03.28 | Giru | nooodl: which one? |
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| 21:04.08 | petn-randall | Thanks for the info, DasEi and dvs |
| 21:04.15 | dvs | no prob |
| 21:04.22 | nooodl | realtek RTL8191 |
| 21:05.29 | nooodl | it's terrible, so it's not supported by default. i had to get compat-wireless, but the site was down, so i looked for some mirror, which was something else. i wasted a good hour trying to install that |
| 21:05.36 | dvs | nooodl: Did you follow http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 21:05.45 | wols | nooodl: no. the idea is: get a backports kernel which is 2.6.39 and therefore much nearer to the 3.0 compat-wireles one. then compile compat-wireles with your rtl8191 for this one |
| 21:06.10 | HardDisk_WP | babilen, oh forget it, i'm sorry. i friggin' hate wordpress. |
| 21:06.12 | wols | !rt8191se |
| 21:06.20 | HardDisk_WP | or at least the authors of some templates |
| 21:06.20 | wols | !rtl8191se |
| 21:06.20 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8191SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8171, 10ec:8172) and RTL8192SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8173, 10ec:8174, some 10ec:8192) are PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192se) is in mainline since Linux 3.0. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware>. |
| 21:06.46 | dvs | oh.. bummer |
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| 21:08.24 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: What is the problem? You know that it is incredibly hard to help you without actually knowing what you are trying to do. I tried my best with foo-bar, but that does not seem to match the actual input. And I agree, WP is ... |
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| 21:08.45 | HardDisk_WP | babilen, noh, the problem is that only half the links were replaced. |
| 21:08.57 | HardDisk_WP | i was stupid enough to check only those which were generated by the template |
| 21:09.08 | azathoth99 | wordpress is as evil as sugarcrm, oracle, microsoft, puppet, or obama |
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| 21:09.24 | ehnde | are there any wine packages available for wheezy? |
| 21:09.24 | HardDisk_WP | azathoth99, i wouldnt be that general. wordpress is nice |
| 21:09.53 | HardDisk_WP | but the plugin authors are sometimes so damn stupid... i've seen $1500 templates containing obvious XSS, RCE or other bugs |
| 21:09.54 | wols | ,versions wine |
| 21:09.54 | judd | Package wine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-3.1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 21:09.57 | azathoth99 | I hand coded some html with 3 tags |
| 21:10.01 | azathoth99 | very fast |
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| 21:10.42 | azathoth99 | img link and pre for lists |
| 21:10.48 | azathoth99 | p for rest |
| 21:10.50 | azathoth99 | ok 4 tags |
| 21:10.51 | ehnde | wols: i don't see any wine packages for wheezy in the repository |
| 21:11.22 | nooodl | wols: ohh. do i download the header files too? |
| 21:11.25 | Giru | nooodl: did you try the drivers from realtek ? It's a real pain to compile every time you change your kernel but in the meanwhile, you'll have a functionnal wifi device. |
| 21:12.05 | althaser | nooodl whats your module ? rtl8191 ? |
| 21:12.07 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: Ok, let me know if you need further help. There are also more specific channels such as ##workingset, #sed or #awk |
| 21:12.25 | nooodl | althaser: yup |
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| 21:12.35 | HardDisk_WP | babilen, cool thanks for your help :) |
| 21:12.45 | nooodl | rtl8191se |
| 21:13.47 | Giru | So nooodl did you have header files for you kernel ? |
| 21:14.49 | qwd | I have two lists in text files. One is folder names, the other is what I want to change the folder names to. How can I combine the two? I want to add "mv" in the beginning of each line in gedit after combining so I can change all the folder names. I tried combining them by pasting as different columns in Google Docs Spreadsheet but for some reason the second list won't paste normally, Docs inserts an empty line after every line for some reason. |
| 21:15.01 | wols | nooodl: yes you need them |
| 21:15.10 | wols | ehnde: as judd showed you there aren't any |
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| 21:15.44 | ehnde | wols: i found an ubuntu package, seems to be working |
| 21:16.56 | petn-randall | qwd: Is there the same amount of items in each list? |
| 21:17.15 | ompaul | ehnde: there are better ways than frankinbuntu |
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| 21:17.29 | DasEi | nooodl: did you just try the firmware-realtek packacke ? I've got another realT here, but before that initram was giving errors |
| 21:17.39 | qwd | petn-randall: yep, and they are sorted correctly. though the first is aphabetically sorted and the other one is not. |
| 21:17.44 | ehnde | lol |
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| 21:18.04 | ompaul | ehnde: you now can't dist-upgrade |
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| 21:18.29 | wols | DasEi: have you read what dpkg knows about his chip? /msg dpkg rtl8191se |
| 21:18.37 | petn-randall | qwd: So item 15 on list1 corresponds to item 15 on list2? |
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| 21:18.55 | qwd | petn-randall: yep |
| 21:18.57 | DasEi | wols: yes, just queried |
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| 21:19.38 | wols | DasEi: if you have a better suggestion, I'm sure nooodl is all ears |
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| 21:20.22 | DasEi | nooodl: try that package an restart network, re-check ? |
| 21:20.32 | junix659 | anyone have any idea when a multi-arch insatller DVD will be available??? |
| 21:20.35 | petn-randall | qwd: If the names on list2 are derived from list1, you can do it with rename(1) and a regex |
| 21:20.55 | wols | DasEi: please read the factoid until you actually understand it. thank you |
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| 21:21.09 | petn-randall | qwd: Otherwise you'll probably have to get out your scripting skills to to loop over both lists |
| 21:21.13 | wols | junix659: early 2013 |
| 21:21.14 | althaser | I can't get connection via wireless r8192e_pci, this is a staging driver any clue ? |
| 21:21.39 | wols | althaser: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 21:22.12 | althaser | wols no success |
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| 21:22.28 | wols | !tell althaser about doesn't work |
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| 21:23.22 | wols | althaser: what is your actual chip? lspci -nn |
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| 21:23.30 | althaser | wols it doesn't set a ip, I saw networks around with iwlist but it never can get connected |
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| 21:23.36 | qwd | petn-randall: I don't have any skills though, that's why I'm doing it this slightly complicated but easy way :) |
| 21:23.47 | althaser | wols 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E/RTL8192SE Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) |
| 21:23.59 | junix659 | wols: :-( |
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| 21:24.24 | mrtnt1 | Is there a file system under Debian GNU/Linux, which supports file creation dates? |
| 21:25.20 | Sgt_Lemming | mrtnt1, erm every one? |
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| 21:25.36 | mrtnt1 | Sgt_Lemming: how do you check it? |
| 21:26.10 | Sgt_Lemming | err, mebe not |
| 21:26.12 | Sgt_Lemming | sorry |
| 21:26.14 | Sgt_Lemming | though they did |
| 21:26.31 | petn-randall | mrtnt1: If it supports ctime or how to check the file creation date? |
| 21:26.32 | Sgt_Lemming | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems#Metadata |
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| 21:27.07 | DasEi | wols: what's wondering me is dpkg sayin firmware-realtek from version 0.32, non-free sources is 0.28 on my squeeze here |
| 21:27.15 | mrtnt1 | petn-randall: yes, but for example if I do "chmod 755 file", the ctime of the file changes |
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| 21:27.48 | mrtnt1 | Sgt_Lemming: I should use FAT16 :P |
| 21:28.05 | mrtnt1 | Sgt_Lemming: it supports "Creation timestamp" |
| 21:28.06 | wols | ,versions firmware-realtek |
| 21:28.07 | judd | Package firmware-realtek on i386 -- lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28; sid/non-free: 0.33; wheezy/non-free: 0.33 |
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| 21:28.17 | wols | DasEi: see that? |
| 21:28.30 | Sgt_Lemming | fat16 also has an 8.3 file name limit |
| 21:28.31 | mrtnt1 | Sgt_Lemming: hmm..ext4 should support this as well. I have ext4 |
| 21:28.32 | dvs | No squeeze-backports? |
| 21:28.39 | wols | DasEi: and since the firmware has no dependency, you can easily install it in any debian |
| 21:28.44 | Sgt_Lemming | i.e. 8 char name, 3 char extension |
| 21:29.00 | DasEi | wols: ic, nooodl : ? |
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| 21:29.13 | marcelomauro | thewanderer1: I have sucess now. Whith stable version and hd extern. Thank you for help! |
| 21:30.26 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, glad I helped - also keep in mind to use stable :) |
| 21:31.14 | marcelomauro | ok.. but there are packages very old in stable it isn't? |
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| 21:32.26 | marcelomauro | thewanderer1: for example, in ubuntu, version of python is 2.7.2 and not 2.6 |
| 21:32.33 | wols | DasEi: you still don't get it. his problem is not the firmware but getting a driver |
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| 21:32.58 | marcelomauro | the testing version of debian have more news |
| 21:33.21 | bavicp | Hey guys, would anyone have a link to a page with the OID for network related stuff (bascially i want to get current transfer rate, like vnstat -tr does, using SNMP) - I've googled for ages but can't find a single thing about OIDs and network.. |
| 21:33.58 | thewanderer1 | marcelomauro, stable has packages that are known to work well and not have many bugs... if you *really* need a new version of software, there are ways to get it on stable too. |
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| 21:35.20 | babilen | marcelomauro: The point of stable is that the versions of the packages do not change. You can still install python2.7 locally (/usr/local -- /msg dpkg stow) and install dependencies with pip into virtualenvs. (which you want to use anyway if you are developing in Python) |
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| 21:36.32 | marcelomauro | hummm, i need to study more this |
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| 21:37.46 | marcelomauro | there are some time that i'm not using debian. With the last changes in ubuntu i'm came back for the house. |
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| 21:38.54 | EduardeCalibal | Hello. If I copy a file to /var/cache/apt/archives I need use a command to the apt see this package no? |
| 21:38.55 | boudiccas | marcelomauro; what? |
| 21:39.27 | marcelomauro | boudiccas: excuse me my english if i can not be undertood |
| 21:39.35 | nullisnil | After some years I ran into a strange issue the command `w` cuts off after 80 chars when grepping in it... |
| 21:39.59 | nullisnil | Any ideas how to grep the params behind 80 chars? |
| 21:40.03 | petn-randall | EduardeCalibal: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 21:40.18 | EduardeCalibal | I have a old package in a old backup. |
| 21:40.26 | boudiccas | marcelomauro; you fracture english and make it unintelligible |
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| 21:40.51 | marcelomauro | hehehh, let me say again |
| 21:40.51 | LikeVinyl | hi all |
| 21:40.52 | nullisnil | EduardeCalibal you can install every deb by using dpkg from any path |
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| 21:41.16 | marcelomauro | I know, my english is very very bad. heheheh |
| 21:41.16 | EduardeCalibal | Ok... But I need the command to reconstruct the indext of packages in my system. |
| 21:41.22 | EduardeCalibal | Is this my question. |
| 21:41.45 | EduardeCalibal | Only for speed up purpose... |
| 21:41.46 | petn-randall | EduardeCalibal: Well, if you want it to use those files as a cache, it should be enough to just copy them to the exact same spot again |
| 21:42.19 | EduardeCalibal | pent-randall, this work only in the same machine. My plan is to use it in another system. |
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| 21:42.26 | petn-randall | EduardeCalibal: This will work as a one-shot thing, but if you want to do this regularly, you're probably better off using apt-cacher-ng or something similar. |
| 21:42.37 | EduardeCalibal | I try it. |
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| 21:42.41 | EduardeCalibal | I will. |
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| 21:43.47 | boudiccas | EduardeCalibal; if you put the first three or four letters of th enick you're talking to into the prompt line and press TAB you should get the full nick of them |
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| 21:44.16 | nullisnil | anyone here who grepped a longer line than 80 characters from w? |
| 21:44.25 | EduardeCalibal | In my old system this work, but here no... Strange. :D |
| 21:45.30 | petn-randall | nullisnil: I don't think this is a bug with grep; w just doesn't output lines longer than 80 chars |
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| 21:45.54 | zastaph | what could have removed npm and other programs from my path? i edited .bash_profile but it was empty |
| 21:46.00 | nullisnil | petn-randall, it does for me on the terminal without catting or similar |
| 21:46.14 | marcelomauro | boudiccas: I try to say: Some time ago i do not use debian. I've been using ubuntu instead but with their latest changes I retured to debian |
| 21:46.33 | marcelomauro | *returned |
| 21:46.34 | boudiccas | marcelomauro; ah, that makes more sense. thank you |
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| 21:46.46 | petn-randall | nullisnil: Are you sure grep is the culprit? I've grepped files with > 80 chars lines very often |
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| 21:46.57 | marcelomauro | thanks.. google translator is my teacher |
| 21:47.03 | boudiccas | lol |
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| 21:47.17 | petn-randall | marcelomauro: hehe :) |
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| 21:47.26 | nullisnil | e.g.: w: "xxxx tty7 :0 18:16 5:50m 5:45 0.51s gnome-session --session=ubuntu" |
| 21:47.43 | nullisnil | ends up to "lkasp tty7 :0 18:16 5:50m 5:46 0.52s gnome-session -" with w |grep gnome |
| 21:48.13 | nullisnil | i have no idea who is the culprit |
| 21:48.14 | nyk2005 | How can I prevent the screen from getting locked when I close the lid of the laptop? I already tried "chmod 000 /etc/acpi/lid.sh", which would be a hack, but it didn't even work... :( |
| 21:48.22 | petn-randall | nullisnil: Ha! I could just reproduce your problem. Very weird. |
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| 21:48.49 | smugglerinc | @nyk2005: Have you tried in screensaver preferences? |
| 21:48.54 | nullisnil | petn-randall, i grepped with > 80 chars, often too which causes me to get into some weird thougths |
| 21:48.57 | nyk2005 | smugglerinc: yes |
| 21:49.15 | nullisnil | its really strange on ubuntu and debian |
| 21:49.23 | nyk2005 | smugglerinc: it doesn't mention the lid there |
| 21:49.53 | petn-randall | nyk2005: If smugglerinc's suggestion doesn't work, try renaming that file. root will still be able to execute that script with sh |
| 21:49.54 | smugglerinc | nyk2005: Are you using gnome screensaver? |
| 21:49.55 | themill | nyk2005: are you using gnome, kde, ...? |
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| 21:50.19 | nullisnil | maybe someone knows another way to get pptpd conected usernames when w and grep dows not work |
| 21:50.19 | petn-randall | nullisnil: piping the output of w to less is also chopped off |
| 21:50.37 | smugglerinc | nyk2005: The option might also be in the power settings. |
| 21:50.43 | nullisnil | petn-randall, its all chopped, cat, grep, less, awk |
| 21:50.47 | nullisnil | all of them |
| 21:50.55 | nyk2005 | smugglerinc: yes, you can select the action in "power managment", but only "blank screen", suspend, hibernate and shutdown. I would like "no action" |
| 21:51.06 | nyk2005 | themill: gnome |
| 21:51.20 | mwarning | hi, I want to install debian on my laptop, but the the lan chipset isn't supported yet. I will probably have more luck with the wlan driver. Is there an usb stick image with the debain installer that also has wlan tools onboard? |
| 21:51.26 | nyk2005 | petn-randall: ah, ok, didn't know root was able to exec it! I try.. |
| 21:51.45 | themill | nyk2005: there should be an option in power settings or similar for that. (I don't use gnome, however) |
| 21:51.49 | nullisnil | mwarning, on wlan you can always fall back to ndiswrapper |
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| 21:52.04 | petn-randall | nullisnil: maybe w checks where it's output goes to and adjusts it accordingly |
| 21:52.05 | nyk2005 | petn-randall: no effect when I move it elsewhere |
| 21:52.19 | petn-randall | nyk2005: Then it doesn't get executed |
| 21:52.25 | smugglerinc | nyk2005: Afraid I can't help much on locating those options. I needed to disable my gnome power daemon and gnome-screensaver. |
| 21:52.27 | nyk2005 | themill: yes, but you can't select "no action" there. |
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| 21:52.36 | petn-randall | nyk2005: If you're using gnome, it'll probably do it somewhere else |
| 21:52.36 | wols | mwarning: cd1. but you don't need network access to install. what lan and wlan do you have? |
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| 21:52.46 | themill | nyk2005: hmm. You certainly can in KDE, but that doesn't help you. |
| 21:52.54 | dvs | mwarning: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 21:53.02 | nyk2005 | petn-randall: yes, but that means it was the wrong script.. |
| 21:53.02 | smugglerinc | nyk2005: I am fairly certain that there is an option in gnome-screensaver. |
| 21:53.37 | mwarning | wols: hi again, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201106-8092 |
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| 21:53.55 | petn-randall | nyk2005: Check out power management in gnome --> "When laptop lid is closed" |
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| 21:54.38 | nyk2005 | smugglerinc: you did? It wasn't possible to configure? Well, yes, disabling the screensaver might help! |
| 21:54.49 | nyk2005 | petn-randall: yes, it did |
| 21:55.07 | wols | mwarning: if ubuntu can handle it, so can debian |
| 21:55.27 | nyk2005 | themill: no.... not that I don't like KDE, I just don't need it... |
| 21:55.38 | wols | mwarning: you might need a backport kernel for example. but handle it, it can |
| 21:56.13 | mwarning | wols: I tried xubuntu and I could install it, but after restart the display went off after xbuntu screen appeared |
| 21:56.24 | mwarning | but that's probably some otehr problem |
| 21:56.44 | mwarning | I will try http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ and report back |
| 21:56.56 | smugglerinc | nyk2005: `gconf-editor /schemas/apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_enabled 0` Should do what you want. |
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| 21:57.29 | smugglerinc | nyk2005: as root. Then you would need to restart gnome-screensaver some how. |
| 21:57.51 | nyk2005 | smugglerinc: wow you were right! It was "Lock screen when screensaver is active"! I was so stupid, though it had nothing to do with closing the lid. But closing the lid seems to activate the screensaver in way that cannot be prevented.. |
| 21:58.22 | smugglerinc | nyk2005: Glad I could help. |
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| 21:59.38 | nyk2005 | smugglerinc: yes, thanks! do you think your last suggestion is better? I'm not sure.... I mean it works now and I can still lock the screeen with ctrl+l, that's good enough for me... :) |
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| 22:00.26 | smugglerinc | nyk2005: My last suggestion was in case you couldn't find it. You found it so great. |
| 22:01.26 | nyk2005 | smugglerinc: very nice! thanks again! I happen to open and close the lid whenever I switch working from inside to outside or from balcony to terrace, so I entered the passwort about 50 times a day... :) |
| 22:02.14 | smugglerinc | nyk2005: heh That can be a bit obnoxious. |
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| 22:02.51 | smugglerinc | I need to allow a user to run rmmod and modprobe on a specific module. I would like to limit it to only that module. Applying the setuid bit on a script doing that doesn't seem to work. |
| 22:03.25 | Sean-Der | Is Debian testing rolling release? |
| 22:03.41 | valdyn | Sean-Der: its not a release |
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| 22:04.28 | wols | smugglerinc: scripts can't be suid root |
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| 22:05.00 | valdyn | Sean-Der: it contains software that is somewhat tested, it gets new packages all the time. Where its different from a rolling release is that stuff can be missing or broken at any time without a quick fix happening |
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| 22:05.10 | Sean-Der | valdyn: I am coming from ArchLinux. Does Debian Testings package management resemble this style? |
| 22:05.30 | valdyn | Sean-Der: guess i answered that one already |
| 22:05.38 | smugglerinc | wols: Would you have another suggestion? Applying suid to those two binaries seems like it would produce a security hole. |
| 22:05.50 | valdyn | Sean-Der: sid is probably closer to arch |
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| 22:06.25 | smugglerinc | Sean-Der: I would agree that sid is closer to Arch in the fact that its a rolling release. |
| 22:06.28 | Sean-Der | valdyn: So go with sid? I am leaving Arch because of a few things that are bothering me of late and just testing things out to find a new home |
| 22:06.29 | petn-randall | smugglerinc: just allow sudo for that script |
| 22:06.33 | valdyn | Sean-Der: but neither sid nor testing are *intended* for usage |
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| 22:06.40 | thewanderer1 | smugglerinc, how about sudo? |
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| 22:07.25 | smugglerinc | petn-randall, the wanderer1: Right. Forgot that sudo has a nopassword function, Thanks. |
| 22:07.27 | wols | smugglerinc: write a small c program with simply contains execv ("modprobe", "your module here",null); |
| 22:07.37 | valdyn | Sean-Der: you should use the stable installer anyway, so you can try each and upgrade |
| 22:07.50 | valdyn | Sean-Der: but upgrade properly |
| 22:07.53 | dfc | i dont really care /quit |
| 22:08.06 | Sgt_Lemming | lol |
| 22:08.38 | Sean-Der | valdyn: If I am using Debian (current?) aren't releases few and far between? Debian is been around 11 years and they are on 5? |
| 22:08.41 | petn-randall | Sean-Der: quite a few people run Debian sid as their daily bread, but it's bleeding edge, so you will catch a regular stream of bugs you have to cope with. |
| 22:09.05 | valdyn | Sean-Der: debian has no and does not care about marketing |
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| 22:09.19 | valdyn | Sean-Der: thats why it also has no version number inflation |
| 22:09.25 | smugglerinc | wols: execv, Never heard of it. I shall look into it. |
| 22:09.29 | Sgt_Lemming | Sean-Der, 6 is current version |
| 22:09.37 | wols | smugglerinc: it's a C library function |
| 22:09.48 | valdyn | Sean-Der: stable releases are about every 2 years now |
| 22:09.52 | wols | smugglerinc: http://www.gnu.org/s/hello/manual/libc/Executing-a-File.html |
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| 22:10.14 | valdyn | Sean-Der: the only recommended installer is the stable installer and i said you can "upgrade" to testing and sid from there |
| 22:10.26 | smugglerinc | wols: There we go. You saving me some effort. Thanks! |
| 22:10.30 | Sean-Der | valdyn: Ok I will try that |
| 22:10.32 | Sean-Der | Thank you |
| 22:10.46 | valdyn | !kmuto |
| 22:10.47 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 2.6.38) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/oldstable/i386/ch04s03 |
| 22:10.58 | valdyn | Sean-Der: if you have new hardware, check out ^^ |
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| 22:13.02 | mosno | so if security patches can't be applied to non-free (because of the lack of source), this means that i'm running a version of Adobe Flash with known vulnerabilities, right? |
| 22:13.12 | mosno | ie. version 10.0 |
| 22:13.23 | mosno | um, 11.0* |
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| 22:13.53 | smugglerinc | mosno: Probably. |
| 22:13.55 | valdyn | mosno: no, it means that *debian* cant do security fixes |
| 22:14.07 | smugglerinc | Thats a more valid answer |
| 22:14.29 | mosno | valdyn: yes... the question was framed in the context of the non-free component of the debian archive |
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| 22:14.55 | valdyn | mosno: so was my comment |
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| 22:15.00 | mosno | :) |
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| 22:15.37 | valdyn | mosno: if at any time adobe leaves holes open, then debian cant fix those, thats all |
| 22:15.42 | themill | mosno: you'll note that flash isn't actually in the archive anyway. |
| 22:16.04 | mosno | themill: well, the version that it pulls |
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| 22:16.36 | themill | mosno: no |
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| 22:17.13 | mosno | themill: do you mean in the sense that non-free is not part of debian? |
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| 22:17.34 | pipeline | flash is literally not in the archive |
| 22:17.40 | valdyn | judd: versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 22:17.41 | judd | Package flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.8.3~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8.3; wheezy/contrib: 1:2.8.3 |
| 22:17.42 | pipeline | the nonfree flash package is a bundle of scripts to retrieve flash from adobe's own sites |
| 22:17.47 | themill | mosno: flash is not in non-free. An install script is in contrib and you can run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" to have it update. |
| 22:17.50 | pipeline | debian does not distribute flash |
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| 22:18.48 | mosno | pipeline: i'm aware of that :) that's what i meant by "the version that it pulls" |
| 22:18.52 | mosno | themill: nice.... |
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| 22:24.16 | mosno | interestingly, it pulls the beta version |
| 22:24.32 | mosno | and here i was thinking i was out of date ;) |
| 22:24.59 | smugglerinc | mosno: never hurts to check. |
| 22:25.32 | smugglerinc | :D |
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| 22:27.53 | ParkerR | Hey. I have a USB headset that I use for teamspeak in debian. How would I tell my main output of the computer to be the headset? |
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| 22:30.01 | valdyn | !asoundrc |
| 22:30.07 | mwarning | wols, I installed debian from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ now via usb stick. I skipped the repositories as there are no valid ones for this special debian version. Now after restart I see the normal kernel output on the screen and then the screen turns in a colorful mashup and I can recognize anything anymore. |
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| 22:30.51 | valdyn | ParkerR: http://www.seehuhn.de/pages/alsa |
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| 22:31.17 | mwarning | is there a kernel option I can add while in grub to use some failsafe display? |
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| 22:33.57 | ParkerR | Ok bbr made a .asoundrc file |
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| 22:34.00 | ParkerR | *brb |
| 22:34.02 | DasEi | mwarning: vga parameter ? |
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| 22:34.10 | valdyn | ParkerR: why the hell brb? |
| 22:35.00 | mwarning | DasEi, I tried vga=ask, but that didn't seem to work |
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| 22:35.52 | DasEi | mwarning: sure, what a monitor is it or what happens if you boot default ? |
| 22:36.30 | ParkerR | valdyn, I rebooted |
| 22:36.40 | ParkerR | valdyn, and it worked. Thanks |
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| 22:37.02 | DasEi | mwarning: http://tinyurl.com/cfy59b |
| 22:37.03 | ParkerR | valdyn, I did the .asoundrc file in the home directory |
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| 22:39.07 | ParkerR | valdyn, it's working nicely too :) |
| 22:41.58 | mwarning | DasEi, this is my system: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201106-8092 |
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| 22:43.00 | mwarning | DasEi, I see that with the vga option, the test has a different resolution, but after a few lines from kernel (at least I think so), the screen turns to a colorful static |
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| 22:47.23 | DasEi | mwarning: if you go with vga=788 , can you boot safemode ? |
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| 22:48.13 | jason404 | what does green mean in the ls colouring? |
| 22:48.27 | DasEi | jason404: directory |
| 22:48.28 | Gen_Patton | man recompiling a kernel sure does takr a while |
| 22:48.51 | jason404 | DasEi: But the directories are usually blue? |
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| 22:49.12 | DasEi | jason404: you're right, executable |
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| 22:49.29 | jason404 | ah okay, thanks |
| 22:49.34 | mwarning | DasEi, I see that the resolution of the screen has changed, but the result is the same |
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| 22:50.26 | Gen_Patton | is there a package comparible to wgetpaste on gentoo for debain? |
| 22:51.06 | DasEi | mwarning: what happens if you try nomodeset ? |
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| 22:51.34 | themill | Gen_Patton: pastebinit? |
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| 22:52.47 | mwarning | DasEi, nomodeset works :) |
| 22:53.23 | DasEi | mwarning: for later, first get a working xorg.conf, then go that way |
| 22:53.37 | mwarning | aye |
| 22:53.46 | DasEi | you can set it nomodeset permantly in grub |
| 22:53.51 | mwarning | thanks for the help! |
| 22:53.56 | mwarning | yes, will do |
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| 22:54.02 | DasEi | have fun |
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| 22:55.10 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 22:55.37 | azathoth99 | guys www.archlinux.org obsosleted debian 4 years ago |
| 22:55.41 | azathoth99 | [shields up] |
| 22:56.15 | Derpadong | LOL |
| 22:56.35 | abrotman | azathoth99: go play somewhere else |
| 22:56.42 | azathoth99 | hek it obsoleted slack and deadrat and solaris too |
| 22:56.50 | azathoth99 | just saw rise of apes |
| 22:56.52 | azathoth99 | gota vent a lil |
| 22:56.57 | daemonkeeper | *sigh* |
| 22:56.59 | abrotman | azathoth99: do you have a Debian question ? |
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| 22:57.09 | abrotman | or nevermind :) |
| 22:57.11 | themill | azathoth99: please take a break from #debian and be more signal and less noise in the future |
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| 23:04.27 | abrotman | ? |
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| 23:05.14 | abrotman | stop abusing the bot, ask a real question |
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| 23:21.50 | danielboston26 | does anyone here run debian on parallels desktop 6? |
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| 23:22.23 | mwarning | DasEi, I got a new problem: http://pastebin.com/PxnjmGH8 |
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| 23:22.42 | mwarning | I tried this, but it did not help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863742 |
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| 23:23.24 | abrotman | mwarning: why are you asking here about ubuntu ? |
| 23:23.32 | DasEi | mwarning: did you edit sources.list without saving ? |
| 23:23.39 | abrotman | bleh .. |
| 23:24.08 | abrotman | mwarning: did you try to rm /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian* ? and then aptitude update ? |
| 23:24.37 | mwarning | DasEi, I edited sources.list after that error came, but it did not cahnge it. |
| 23:24.41 | babilen | mwarning: So, you removed the lists, ran apt-get update and the error persists? (do not remove the lock file in there) |
| 23:25.14 | danielboston26 | does anyone here run debian on parallels desktop 6? |
| 23:25.28 | mwarning | I did "rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/" - yes |
| 23:25.31 | abrotman | danielboston26: you? are you having a problem with it ? |
| 23:25.59 | danielboston26 | it won't let me install parallels tools |
| 23:26.13 | abrotman | won't let you? |
| 23:26.25 | Gen_Patton | is rther an aqivelent package to wgetpaste on gentoo? |
| 23:26.35 | abrotman | Gen_Patton: pastebinit |
| 23:26.47 | themill | Gen_Patton: [23:51] <themill> Gen_Patton: pastebinit? |
| 23:26.57 | danielboston26 | when i run the installer it tells me that there is no program to handle executable files |
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| 23:27.45 | babilen | danielboston26: "it" ? What is telling you that? Isn't that rather a problem with parallels than with Debian? |
| 23:28.09 | danielboston26 | no |
| 23:28.24 | danielboston26 | im booted into debian |
| 23:28.30 | danielboston26 | i mount the cd |
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| 23:28.44 | danielboston26 | double click on the file in nauitils |
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| 23:29.05 | danielboston26 | and it says theres no program to handle executable files |
| 23:29.06 | babilen | which file? which cd? could you please use punctuation instead of the enter key? |
| 23:29.16 | mwarning | babilen, yes, that's what I did |
| 23:29.27 | danielboston26 | the parallels tools cd |
| 23:29.34 | Gen_Patton | Whom was it that needed an example /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 23:30.01 | themill | Gen_Patton: no-one needs example sources.list files. |
| 23:30.23 | babilen | mwarning: May I see the complete output of the aptitude/apt-get update run, the content of the /var/lib/apt/lists/ directory before and after on http://paste.debian.net please? Could you also try a different mirror (say ftp2.de) |
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| 23:31.10 | babilen | danielboston26: What kind of executable file is it? Can you execute it from the command line? What are the permissions of that file? |
| 23:31.24 | mwarning | babilen, moment please |
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| 23:33.16 | babilen | danielboston26: If it turns out that we can not help you because we are not familiar with parallels you could also try http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=30722 -- but please provide more information, preferrably on a pastebin such as http://paste.debian.net ( "file /media/cdrom/path/to/the/file" "ls -l /media/cdrom/path/to/the/file" ... ... ... ... |
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| 23:35.14 | Gen_Patton | babilen: i'de suggest installing an running netselect-apt asfoloows sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.backup && sudo apt-get install netselece-apt && netselect-apt -s -n -f -o /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:35.22 | abrotman | Gen_Patton: NO ONE ASKED |
| 23:35.24 | abrotman | jesus |
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| 23:35.59 | abrotman | nevermind the twelve typos |
| 23:37.03 | Gen_Patton | babilen: i'de suggest installing an running netselect-apt as follows sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.backup && sudo apt-get install netselece-apt && netselect-apt -s -n -f -o /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 23:37.23 | mharrison | wow, love the use of sudo |
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| 23:37.29 | abrotman | Gen_Patton: stop, you're embarassing yourself |
| 23:37.34 | Gen_Patton | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.44 | babilen | Gen_Patton: I have no idea why you are telling me that and I ask you to refrain providing support no one asked for. |
| 23:37.46 | abrotman | Gen_Patton: please be quiet |
| 23:38.01 | babilen | s/refrain/refrain from/ |
| 23:38.03 | abrotman | mharrison: assuming you have it installed and configured .. yay |
| 23:38.49 | mharrison | abrotman: why bother configuring it.....using su lets you run all the commands you want without sudo before each one.......stupid ubuntu sheep |
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| 23:39.08 | abrotman | mharrison: i think you missed my sarcasm .. |
| 23:39.31 | mharrison | abrotman: I got it....just ubuntu sheep piss me off |
| 23:39.48 | babilen | mharrison: sudo is a very useful tool and has nothing to do with being an "Ubuntu sheep" whatever that might be. |
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| 23:40.05 | mwarning | babilen, here is my sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/125425/ |
| 23:40.13 | babilen | mwarning: ta |
| 23:40.16 | abrotman | babilen: i understand what he's getting at .. it's like when you see someone go "you should 'sudo lspci' |
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| 23:40.37 | mwarning | babilen, this is the output of apt-get update: http://paste.debian.net/125426/ |
| 23:40.41 | LostyJai | hey guys, i need to know how to merge two partitions |
| 23:40.42 | Gen_Patton | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.43 | LostyJai | like.... ASAP!! |
| 23:40.58 | mharrison | babilen: you are correct, however people who spout off all commands with sudo first are 98.9% Ubuntu users |
| 23:41.14 | abrotman | it's okay .. he missed a sudo, the command would fail anyway |
| 23:41.16 | babilen | abrotman: sure, but that is not an inherent problem of sudo but o ... (why am I telling you this? you know it anyway) ;) |
| 23:41.28 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 23:41.38 | norc | I have a server running a custom patched kernel. Is using kexec to switch to another kernel a safe thing to do? :) |
| 23:41.42 | abrotman | LostyJai: i'm not sure you can |
| 23:41.54 | norc | (I remember reading a lot of dicsussions about problems with devices that need to initialized at boottime) |
| 23:41.58 | abrotman | LostyJai: you can shrink parittions, grow partitions, not sure you can merge |
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| 23:42.07 | Gen_Patton | mharrison: I have configured debian,gentoo, and arch all as suggested in the appropriate distributions wiki and handbooks |
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| 23:42.35 | mharrison | Gen_Patton: would you like a cookie? |
| 23:42.36 | babilen | mwarning: Well, your sources.list is a bit wrong -- /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 23:42.46 | LostyJai | well grow |
| 23:42.51 | LostyJai | sorry not merge, grow |
| 23:43.01 | LostyJai | i have a vm running debian and it was only assigned 20GB HDD |
| 23:43.03 | norc | Furthermore, will network devices and active TCP connection survive a kernel switch using kexec? |
| 23:43.06 | LostyJai | now it has run out, and I want to add more |
| 23:43.16 | abrotman | LostyJai: a VM? or VPS? |
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| 23:43.21 | mwarning | babilen, what's wrong with it? |
| 23:43.21 | LostyJai | virtual machine |
| 23:43.21 | LostyJai | vmware |
| 23:43.23 | LostyJai | i will go increase the vdisk to 80gb |
| 23:43.27 | norc | Or is a truly transparent kernel switch just not possible |
| 23:43.36 | abrotman | LostyJai: and what is the filesystem? |
| 23:43.44 | LostyJai | ext3 |
| 23:44.02 | abrotman | LostyJai: i'm sure if you google "expand ext3 paritition" you'll get some helpful hints |
| 23:44.08 | LostyJai | ok thanks |
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| 23:44.26 | babilen | mwarning: well, you are missing the standard suites for example. One second ... |
| 23:44.35 | DasEi | LostyJai: virtualbox ? |
| 23:44.39 | mwarning | babilen, ok, I noticed that I commented the wrong lines, only the *security* lines should be in. the rest should be commented |
| 23:44.42 | Gen_Patton | no thanks mharrison I was only making the point that just because I use sudo instead of using root for admionistrative purposes because i am secutiy aware and not a "ubutnu sheep" |
| 23:45.01 | babilen | mwarning: Why is that? |
| 23:45.05 | Gen_Patton | no thanks mharrison I was only making the point that just because I use sudo instead of using root for admionistrative purposes because i am secutiy aware and not a "ubuntu sheep" |
| 23:45.09 | abrotman | wtf |
| 23:45.14 | LostyJai | no |
| 23:45.16 | LostyJai | vmware |
| 23:45.21 | LostyJai | vsphere 4.1 |
| 23:45.24 | LostyJai | esxi host |
| 23:45.29 | babilen | !tell LostyJai -about enter |
| 23:45.29 | abrotman | less enter |
| 23:45.41 | Gen_Patton | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.52 | DasEi | LostyJai: ok, not sure if it's decribed in their FAQs then |
| 23:45.54 | mwarning | babilen, those lines were present when I first started the system |
| 23:45.55 | LostyJai | ok, sorry.. i'm just a little stressed |
| 23:46.28 | babilen | mwarning: Do you have any reason why you don't want the standard suites? |
| 23:46.41 | mwarning | babilen, I proceeded to comment the cdrom line and add the other lines |
| 23:47.15 | mwarning | babilen, the problem is that my lan chipset doesn't seem to work with the standard suite |
| 23:47.30 | babilen | mwarning: don't you want to install other software? I would recommend to remove the ftp.de* lists, use http://paste.debian.net/125427/ and run "apt-get update" -- Please give output of the complete session ... |
| 23:47.43 | mwarning | ok, will do |
| 23:48.29 | babilen | mwarning: No, you just need a newer kernel which you can get from backports. you still want to install software from squeeze. (is this a sandybridge with 82579LM NIC?) |
| 23:48.36 | Dewi | what's the "proper" way to make init.d scripts not output to console? |
| 23:48.40 | babilen | !tell mwarning -about bdo kernel |
| 23:49.11 | Dewi | (and presumably get logged somewhere, I'm not too fussy about where) |
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| 23:50.41 | norc | Is there some other place I should rather ask my question perhaps? |
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| 23:51.07 | abrotman | norc: is it really that important to not reboot? |
| 23:51.13 | norc | abrotman: Yes. |
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| 23:51.27 | babilen | mwarning: With backports it would be http://paste.debian.net/125429/ -- you can install a .39 kernel with "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae" for i386 or replace 686-pae with amd64 if you use that. |
| 23:51.28 | abrotman | norc: then i guess you try it, and if it freaks out, you end up rebooting, right? |
| 23:51.34 | mwarning | babilen, here is the output of apt-get update with your sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/125430/ |
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| 23:52.13 | norc | abrotman: Well I'd hate the serial port not working after this. Because then I couldn't reboot the machine at all. |
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| 23:53.30 | babilen | mwarning: You removed the lists before? Could you please provide a paste of all your commands and all the output please? If you like to you can also make ample use of "ls" and "cat" to show that the relevant files are OK and the lists have indeed been removed. Please also replace ftp.de with ftp2.de in the sources.list and provide all of this in a single pastebin. |
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| 23:54.06 | mwarning | babilen, the problem is that I have to transfer all text from console to an usbstick :/ |
| 23:54.30 | mwarning | babilen, I have tried ftp2, but no change |
| 23:54.42 | babilen | mwarning: Ah, why didn't you say that a bit earlier. Why don't you have network access? Do you know the "script" tool? |
| 23:55.00 | mwarning | "scipt" tool? - no idea |
| 23:55.11 | babilen | mwarning: And you removed the lists? (the /var/lib/apt/lists/ directory is empty?) |
| 23:55.14 | mwarning | babilen, this is my laptop http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201106-8092 |
| 23:55.21 | abrotman | norc: i'd say your lack of ability to test the non-reboot kernel switch outweighs the desire to not reboot :) |
| 23:55.30 | babilen | mwarning: "man script" it will write all commands and output to a file |
| 23:55.37 | mwarning | babilen, I did it every time before I did apt-get update |
| 23:55.49 | mwarning | (removed the lists that is) |
| 23:56.02 | mwarning | babilen, ok, I didn't know about that :) |
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| 23:56.46 | norc | abrotman: Ok, I guess I'll just don't do anything. ;-) |
| 23:57.01 | norc | abrotman: Not until I have a secondary server there I can test this out on :) |
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| 23:57.28 | mwarning | babilen, do you think I will have more luck installing the official netinstall iso and then installing the new kernel from backports? |
| 23:57.35 | babilen | mwarning: Ok, just for the fun of it ... try it with ftp.uk -- Do you get any other errors when you run apt-get update? |
| 23:57.45 | mwarning | sec |
| 23:57.49 | babilen | mwarning: Was that the kmuto one? |
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| 23:58.19 | abrotman | norc: or that .. not sure if your situation allows that .. but that's your decision |
| 23:58.41 | orioni | which crosscompiler to use for compiling progs for ARMv5ej ? |
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