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| 00:00.53 | m1h0 | yagoo , the installer was from hplipopensource, because it is verion 3.11 , otherwise the installation package in aptitude is 3.10 |
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| 00:17.04 | khaleel5000 | hi on debian sid, kde 4.45, intel hd audio (82801I ) ich 9 family.... dmix doesnt work |
| 00:17.22 | dvs | khaleel5000: #debian-next |
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| 00:18.01 | m1h0 | the installer from hplipopensource makes the whole installation into one dir, i mean can i extract just the driver from it ? |
| 00:18.13 | m1h0 | for the specified printer |
| 00:18.21 | tharkun | Gentlemen is apparmour, selinux or tomoyo recomended for any particular use or do either of them serve the same purpose? Also in case of missbehaviour which one is the least troublesome? |
| 00:18.29 | khaleel5000 | dvgsvc: i must be invited :( |
| 00:18.51 | tharkun | khaleel5000: wrong network try oftc |
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| 00:19.07 | tharkun | !debian-next |
| 00:19.19 | tharkun | !#debian-next |
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| 00:19.55 | khaleel5000 | tharkun: thanks |
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| 00:26.52 | karlpinc | xelister: I suppose it depends on what you install. There's more packages, so that means more bugs. But there's solutions too. |
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| 00:35.17 | RafaelFuturo | hhiiiĀ“ |
| 00:35.35 | thewanderer1 | tharkun: well, grsecurity is recommended by me as superior above all of which you've listed :P |
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| 00:38.07 | marcelomauro | how can I install this device on debian http://www.leadership.com.br/produto_descricao.asp?codigo_produto=91 |
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| 00:40.57 | thewanderer1 | tharkun: also, SELinux serves the purpose of making your life harder :P |
| 00:42.06 | magyar | if I open pdf files in iceweasel by means of okular, the "find" sidebar doesn't allow typing |
| 00:42.20 | magyar | i can c/p but not type words |
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| 00:47.38 | Sefid_Par | I have downloaded Debian live for usb. extracted it to usb drive. And booted it. But it got error. |
| 00:47.58 | Sefid_Par | Err: Operating system not found. |
| 00:48.37 | thewanderer1 | Sefid_Par: how exactly did you 'extract' it? |
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| 00:49.53 | Sefid_Par | thewanders1:Using win32 Diskimager |
| 00:50.37 | thewanderer1 | Sefid_Par: and you extracted the image's contents? |
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| 00:53.50 | Sefid_Pa1 | thewanderer1: Excuse me. My connection have failed. |
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| 00:57.13 | Sefid_Par | thewanderer1: I used win32 diskimager. |
| 00:57.22 | thewanderer1 | Sefid_Par: maybe the system did not boot from the pendrive? |
| 00:57.56 | Sefid_Par | I think it booted. but have some problems. |
| 00:58.30 | thewanderer1 | I mean, it may have booted from a hard disk instead of the pendrive |
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| 00:58.41 | Sefid_Par | thewanderer1: Do you know any better software for making bootable usb drive from Debian in windows? |
| 00:59.08 | Sefid_Par | thewanderer1: I changed the settings of bios. |
| 00:59.15 | NickyP | I have failing vboxsf mounts in fstab. Can I move these to the later in the boot sequence? which file is the one to place the mount in? |
| 00:59.24 | Sefid_Par | And it found my thumb drive. |
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| 00:59.52 | thewanderer1 | Sefid_Par: have you checked the md5 sum of the downloaded file? |
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| 00:59.55 | mjrosenb | hey, is there a way to get dpkg to look at a different directrory for /etc/group? |
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| 01:00.14 | llvllatrix | Hello All. A bit off topic. I was wondering if anyone had any career advice for someone in software. I'm currently developing a career plan. |
| 01:00.15 | Sefid_Par | thewanderer1: No! |
| 01:00.15 | thewanderer1 | NickyP: rc.local I guess :P |
| 01:00.22 | mjrosenb | i'm having errors where i'm trying to run dpkg on a filesystem on /mnt/foo |
| 01:00.32 | thewanderer1 | Sefid_Par: well maybe it's corrupt |
| 01:00.46 | mjrosenb | but the dpkg config is making references to groups that don't exist on the host system |
| 01:00.56 | Sefid_Par | thewanderer: I'l check it now. |
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| 01:01.50 | NickyP | thewanderer1: doesn't rc.local run after each runlevel? |
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| 01:03.31 | thewanderer1 | NickyP: yes, but are you going to be switching runlevels a lot for that to matter, and would this script giving you warnings be a problem? |
| 01:03.48 | NickyP | no |
| 01:03.58 | NickyP | ill try it |
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| 01:06.57 | shadowh511 | hey, I am having trouble with an easycap card in debian |
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| 01:09.14 | shadowh511 | hey, I am having trouble with an easycap card in debian |
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| 01:21.48 | Sefid_Par | thewanderer: I checked md5. It mached. |
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| 01:22.36 | boudiccas | shadowh511; we know, we heard you the first time! |
| 01:23.16 | boudiccas | polishes my crystall ball, to read the signs as to what shadowh511 'trouble' is |
| 01:23.39 | shadowh511 | it won't do the audio channels |
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| 01:24.30 | boudiccas | be precise, what do you mean by 'trouble', and what do you mean by' it won't do'? |
| 01:24.38 | thewanderer1 | hands boudiccas extra tea leaves and a mandatory black cat |
| 01:24.59 | shadowh511 | i cannot get video from the card onto my laptop using tvtime |
| 01:25.02 | asarch | How can I install those admin packs? |
| 01:25.03 | asarch | http://paste.scsys.co.uk/132243 |
| 01:25.15 | asarch | That message is from pgAdminII |
| 01:25.22 | asarch | *pgAdminIII |
| 01:25.40 | boudiccas | shadowh511; whats that got to do with the audio channels? |
| 01:25.42 | thewanderer1 | Sefid_Par: now I wonder if Ubuntu's win32imager is compatible with Debian builds, actually |
| 01:25.54 | thewanderer1 | Sefid_Par: try UNetBootin with the image file that you had downloaded |
| 01:26.08 | shadowh511 | nothing, i fail at typing |
| 01:26.20 | Sefid_Par | thewanderer: Going to it. |
| 01:26.24 | boudiccas | shadowh511; doh! |
| 01:26.57 | shadowh511 | boudiccas: when i ./install.sh the driver, gcc complains about a bad argument |
| 01:27.14 | thewanderer1 | this will be a long night |
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| 01:27.39 | thewanderer1 | I'm off though, hopefully UNetBootin has more success |
| 01:27.56 | boudiccas | shadowh511; what <exactly> is the error message you get? |
| 01:28.12 | shadowh511 | lemme pastebin it |
| 01:28.52 | shadowh511 | http://pastebin.com/gg8qK0S3 |
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| 01:32.49 | shadowh511 | boudiccas: any idea what I did wrong? |
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| 01:33.51 | boudiccas | shadowh511; what happens if you su, and then ./install.sh? |
| 01:33.59 | shadowh511 | i |
| 01:34.04 | shadowh511 | i'll try* |
| 01:34.39 | shadowh511 | nope |
| 01:34.43 | shadowh511 | same error |
| 01:34.59 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:35.32 | shadowh511 | exactly |
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| 01:36.08 | boudiccas | right, log out of root, and it looks like there is a fault in the script |
| 01:36.24 | shadowh511 | fun |
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| 01:36.48 | DeM0nFiRe | Hello |
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| 01:37.50 | boudiccas | shadowh511; you need to talk to the people who provided the script for you, and show them you're output and see if they can come up with a solution for you |
| 01:38.07 | shadowh511 | where would that be? |
| 01:38.23 | boudiccas | i've no idea, where did you get the script from? |
| 01:38.37 | shadowh511 | their SF site |
| 01:38.50 | boudiccas | well they will have contact details there |
| 01:39.02 | lyte_ | shadowh511: where's cc1 come from? gcc accepts "-Wframe-larger-than=8192" |
| 01:39.22 | shadowh511 | i'll sed it |
| 01:39.25 | lyte_ | i think you've actually got a funky c compiler getting in the way |
| 01:40.27 | shadowh511 | lyte_: then where do I fix it? |
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| 01:41.19 | lyte_ | shadowh511: "which cc1" then: file "$(which cc1)" |
| 01:41.22 | lyte_ | in to pastie... |
| 01:41.49 | shadowh511 | which cc1 gets me nothing |
| 01:42.23 | lyte_ | oh well in that case it's possibly something the make script is doing, so i'll be quiet and let you contact the authors :p |
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| 01:44.17 | mooglenorph | Hi. I've got a thinkpad x200s, and the speakers don't work with puleaudio from debian stable. |
| 01:44.28 | mooglenorph | The headphone jack works, but I can't get any output from the speakers. |
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| 01:53.52 | shirish | hi all, which is the utility for knowing/understanding hdd (hard disk drive) integrity and how things are ? |
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| 01:54.06 | dvs | hdparm? |
| 01:54.08 | shirish | I know hdparm is one, but there is another one as well. |
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| 01:58.23 | DexterF | shirish: smartctl from smartmontools |
| 01:58.23 | sinedeviance | hi all! i am running a debian 6.0.2 server and want to take it all the way back to the base system, except for keeping a few things (like apache2, mysql, and samba) |
| 01:58.27 | DeM0nFiRe | Anyone here have an ATI Mobility GPU with HyperMemory? Know how to control the HyperMemory settings? |
| 01:58.33 | sinedeviance | is there any way to do this through apt? or do i really have to reinstall the system? |
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| 01:59.10 | simonlnu | purge stuff you don't want |
| 01:59.30 | sinedeviance | simonlnu: but i dont know what to purge. there's 4 gigs worth of packages i want to get rid of |
| 01:59.37 | shirish | DexterF: that's the one I was not remembering, thanks |
| 02:00.37 | sinedeviance | i installed trinity-desktop (kde3.5) on the server for use with NX, i definitely want that gone. but after that goes, how do i remove the remnants easily? |
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| 02:02.13 | sinedeviance | so i guess there's just no good way? |
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| 02:04.57 | jwmoll | I don't know if this will help you, but try the commands apt-get autoremove, apt-get autoclean, apt-get clean |
| 02:05.10 | sinedeviance | jwmoll: okay, i will. thanks! |
| 02:05.23 | jwmoll | If you have deborphan installed, try 'deborphan | xargs apt-get remove --purge -y' |
| 02:05.39 | jwmoll | And then one more, try 'aptitude purge ~c' |
| 02:05.48 | sinedeviance | jwmoll: so orphans are packages that have no use on the system? like libs for desktop environments that no longer exist? |
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| 02:05.52 | jwmoll | I use those to clean packages off my system and it seems to get rid of the same amount it installed |
| 02:06.21 | jwmoll | Yeah I guess so, I'm still a newbie with packages and dependencies myself, but I'm pretty sure they're packages left over that no other program requires, which makes them safe to remove |
| 02:06.38 | sinedeviance | okay. i think autoremove takes care of those for me |
| 02:06.45 | jwmoll | (run all those commands as root) |
| 02:06.46 | sinedeviance | i'll try the clean and autoclean commands |
| 02:07.11 | jwmoll | Remember 'aptitude purge ~c' as well, that seems to remove a lot of stuff too. And go ahead and installed deborphan and run that other command mentioned, that seems to get a lot too |
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| 02:12.50 | kingsley | How would you diagnose why booting leaves the root file system read only? |
| 02:13.53 | shirish | hi all, is there some nice GUI front-end (wrapper ?) for smartctl ? |
| 02:14.30 | DexterF | sinedeviance: best way to have a clean system is a clean system. and why you want trinity gone is beyond me :) |
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| 02:14.44 | sinedeviance | DexterF: because my root partition is full |
| 02:14.55 | DexterF | sinedeviance: buy a bigger disk |
| 02:15.05 | sinedeviance | jwmoll: hmm i've got some odd stuff happening now |
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| 02:15.20 | sinedeviance | DexterF: not every problem is solved by throwing money at it. i dont NEED a bigger disk. |
| 02:15.23 | DexterF | shirish: not that I knew. I'd build some filters with grep. |
| 02:15.48 | DexterF | sinedeviance: you *always* need bigger disks. |
| 02:15.56 | sinedeviance | DexterF: wrong. |
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| 02:16.06 | jwmoll | You could always do a reinstall, although you shouldn't keep resorting to that easy way out. That seems like bad practice to keep doing |
| 02:16.22 | sinedeviance | jwmoll: well yeah thats what i'm trying to avoid |
| 02:16.31 | sinedeviance | okay so i ran apt-get purge ~c |
| 02:16.36 | jwmoll | Yeah I agree, how did those commands work out? |
| 02:16.42 | sinedeviance | i typed 'n' because i wanted to review the list |
| 02:16.52 | sinedeviance | NOW, when i do apt-get purge ~c, nothing comes up |
| 02:16.54 | sinedeviance | what the hell happened? |
| 02:17.02 | DexterF | shirish: better yet I'd write some scripts that check the disks and mail me if something fails. a certain debian derivate has something like this built-in, maybe it's worth spying into the package (tho I don't really know if that is in theier smartmontools package) |
| 02:17.10 | jwmoll | I didn't even know that switch existed, thanks for the tip. |
| 02:17.19 | jwmoll | Try 'aptitude purge ~c' as root |
| 02:17.32 | sinedeviance | jwmoll: er yes i meant aptitude purge ~c. sorry :" |
| 02:17.35 | sinedeviance | :D |
| 02:17.48 | sinedeviance | i ran aptitude purge ~c and selected 'n' |
| 02:17.53 | sinedeviance | now, when i run it, nothing shows up |
| 02:17.54 | jwmoll | So that one didn't work? |
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| 02:18.05 | jwmoll | That's selected "no" to that prompt, isn't it? |
| 02:18.11 | sinedeviance | um no it apparently wiped half my dependency tree |
| 02:18.38 | shirish | DexterF: is that certain debian derivative distribution called ubuntu ? If yes, any idea what the package might be called ? |
| 02:18.43 | jwmoll | Seriously? |
| 02:19.22 | jwmoll | Did you go ahead with the removal? If you didn't yet, tell me what packages it's about to remove and how much space should be freed |
| 02:19.24 | sinedeviance | jwmoll: yess |
| 02:19.30 | sinedeviance | jwmoll: no, i didnt |
| 02:19.35 | sinedeviance | i would have had to type 'y' to do it |
| 02:19.42 | sinedeviance | thats why i didn't, i wanted to review the list |
| 02:20.01 | sinedeviance | jwmoll: it doesnt want to remove ANY now. thats the problem |
| 02:20.08 | sinedeviance | the packages it was going to remove have vanished into thin air |
| 02:20.11 | sinedeviance | at least, they have to apt |
| 02:20.16 | sinedeviance | i'm sure the data is still there |
| 02:20.23 | DexterF | shirish: right/not really. I'd ask there and maybe download the smartmontools package. packages.ubuntu.com. I'm pretty sure it could be easily ported to deb. |
| 02:20.34 | sinedeviance | *sigh* i guess i better go get my debian netinst cd |
| 02:21.45 | shadowh511 | does anyone know what input standard I need for a signal from an american wii? |
| 02:24.32 | pipeline | shadowh511: s-video, ntsc composite, or y-pb-pr (component) |
| 02:24.54 | shadowh511 | the yello wore |
| 02:24.59 | shadowh511 | yellow wire* |
| 02:25.14 | pipeline | yellow is probably ntsc composite |
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| 02:27.11 | shadowh511 | ok |
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| 02:34.04 | shadowh511 | wtf, I get video now, but only for half a second then it gives me bars |
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| 02:36.28 | himuraken | yeah is yellow is the NTSC composite bit of the standard three wire RCA IIRC |
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| 02:42.18 | shadowh511 | himuraken: what would you think would be the vlc argument for it? |
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| 02:42.51 | himuraken | shadowh511, you got me stumped on that. Let me see if I can figure that out. |
| 02:43.03 | shadowh511 | kay, i'll recheck the manpage |
| 02:43.58 | himuraken | Yeah, shadowh511, you are on your own there. :-) |
| 02:44.30 | shadowh511 | i need to change the :norm, but i do not know the list of values it can be |
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| 02:47.48 | MarconM | who work on debian.org |
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| 02:49.10 | shadowh511 | I kp'd |
| 02:50.15 | boudiccas | MarconM; what do you mean? |
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| 02:50.48 | shadowh511 | I got a Kernel panic from my wireless driver, random issue with WPA |
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| 02:51.54 | MarconM | boudiccas: i did a deb for install automatic instalation xmonad |
| 02:51.59 | MarconM | all the packages |
| 02:52.17 | MarconM | i want to know if they can to set on repository |
| 02:52.24 | MarconM | like |
| 02:52.33 | MarconM | apt-get install xmonad-debian |
| 02:53.04 | shadowh511 | okay so |
| 02:53.12 | shadowh511 | i get video for n seconds |
| 02:53.16 | shadowh511 | then bars |
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| 02:53.21 | shadowh511 | (test bars) |
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| 03:09.36 | shadowh511 | boudiccas: i am uploading footage of what I get when I try to stream from the card |
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| 03:11.36 | shadowh511 | boudiccas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uU2zhrsUB4 |
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| 03:16.37 | boudiccas | shadowh511; sorry, i dont watch youtube at all |
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| 03:24.25 | kingsley | Will "ro" in the "linux" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst stop the root filesystem from being writeable? |
| 03:24.46 | kingsley | /etc/fstab has "rw". |
| 03:24.50 | wols | kingsley: no |
| 03:26.47 | kingsley | How would you diagnose why the root filesystem is only mounted "read-only" while booting? |
| 03:27.16 | wols | is it ro after your boot finishes or do you want to know why it is "ro" in grub.cfg? |
| 03:28.03 | kingsley | wols: Thanks for asking. I'd like to know why it's ro after booting. |
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| 03:29.14 | kingsley | Perhaps I should have asked... How would you diagnose why booting leaves the root filesystem only readable, and not also writeable (ro)? |
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| 03:33.10 | wols | it is ro cause it has errors the quick fsck on boot couldn't fix |
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| 03:33.24 | wols | fsck it and reboot |
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| 04:47.24 | Ichigo | I'm trying to get red5 running on debian, but whenever trying to start it, it just says "failed!" |
| 04:47.31 | Ichigo | Through the init script that is |
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| 04:48.19 | Ichigo | I only see WARN logs in the error log. |
| 04:48.29 | Ichigo | Nothing fatal. |
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| 04:48.53 | wols | ,versions red5 |
| 04:48.54 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'red5' was found in i386. |
| 04:49.02 | wols | Ichigo: what is this red5? |
| 04:49.27 | Ichigo | No one seems to have any idea what red5 is, hah.. |
| 04:49.31 | Ichigo | ,version red5-server |
| 04:49.40 | Ichigo | oi |
| 04:49.50 | Ichigo | Well, the package name is red5-server |
| 04:49.54 | wols | ,versions red5-server |
| 04:49.56 | judd | Package red5-server on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.1-4; sid: 1.0~svn4198-2; wheezy: 1.0~svn4198-2 |
| 04:50.19 | Ichigo | It's an RTMP server. |
| 04:50.41 | wols | start it directly from a console and see if there are errors |
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| 04:51.31 | Ichigo | There's no actual binary for red5. There's a red5.sh file though, which does output some error. One moment. |
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| 04:51.47 | Ichigo | (The red5.sh file is located in /usr/share/red5) |
| 04:52.15 | Ichigo | http://pastie.org/pastes/2364615/text |
| 04:53.04 | wols | which java version do you have installed? |
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| 04:53.34 | wols | dpkg -l |grep jre |
| 04:53.34 | dpkg | No packages found matching |grep jre |
| 04:53.41 | Ichigo | java version "1.6.0_18" |
| 04:53.56 | Ichigo | OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.8.7) (6b18-1.8.7-2~squeeze1) |
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| 04:54.13 | wols | Ichigo: use Suns JRE instead |
| 04:54.19 | Ichigo | o.e |
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| 04:56.29 | Ichigo | E: Package 'sun-java6-jre' has no installation candidate; Hm, goes under a different package name? |
| 04:56.50 | micols | I have a few projects I want to put into apt, is there anywhere I can read about creating debian packages the right way for this (they're mostly C programs) ? |
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| 04:57.28 | micols | one of them already uses configure+autoconf+automake and all that other fancy stuff, but not sure where to begin and end |
| 04:58.31 | wols | !tell Ichigo about install java |
| 04:58.43 | wols | Ichigo: you miss the repos needed |
| 04:58.54 | wols | !tell micols about nmg |
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| 05:00.09 | Ichigo | I enabled non-free and it worked. Was there something else I needed to do? |
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| 05:00.27 | Ichigo | I'm going off the debian documentation for it. |
| 05:00.42 | Ichigo | (http://wiki.debian.org/Java/Sun) |
| 05:02.25 | Ichigo | wols, It seems to work after installing Sun. |
| 05:02.30 | micols | wols: thanks, exactly what I needed ! |
| 05:02.45 | Ichigo | The init script keeps outputting "sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory" though. |
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| 05:04.58 | Skipp_OSX | The guidelines didn't say anything about not posting ascii art graphics directly into the channel |
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| 05:07.31 | Ichigo | Skipp_OSX, Read the topic maybe. |
| 05:07.39 | Ichigo | "NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin" |
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| 05:08.16 | Ichigo | There's also "offtopic: #debian-offtopic" |
| 05:08.48 | laurus | On Debian Wheezy, the new kernel (3.0) doesn't boot the system, it eventually just restarts the computer. What should I do? |
| 05:09.13 | Skipp_OSX | Ichig: I was just checking if anybody was listening |
| 05:09.15 | Ichigo | laurus, Panic! |
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| 05:09.45 | laurus | Ichigo, why? I just use the older kernel, just I am wondering if I should file some kind of report to help the developers. |
| 05:10.37 | Ichigo | Aha.. I wasn't being serious. If you have any kind of error logs, you should pastebin them and post them here though. |
| 05:11.05 | laurus | Okay, where are those logs in the system? |
| 05:11.47 | Ichigo | /var/log/kern.log maybe. |
| 05:12.36 | wols | laurus: use another kernel? |
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| 05:12.57 | laurus | wols, I am just trying to help the developers since it seems this kernel will be the one for Wheezy |
| 05:13.15 | wols | laurus: you can, yes. it also helps if you could maybe debug the problem to help the devs a bit. e.g. do your hardware need firmware to work properly? |
| 05:13.25 | Ichigo | I'm sure if everyone out there is having problems booting to the kernel, they won't release it :p |
| 05:13.37 | wols | nah, 3.0 won't be the one shipping with wheezy. way too early for that to decide |
| 05:13.41 | laurus | wols, I am not sure... this is one of those ASUS netbooks |
| 05:13.50 | laurus | I did not install the wireless firmware, I do know that |
| 05:14.04 | Ichigo | I've been wanting to get an Asus. They have a nice high-performance laptop. |
| 05:14.08 | wols | that shouldn't be a problem. what is the last thing you see before it reboots? |
| 05:14.23 | laurus | wols, hmm, I forgot. I haven't booted it to that kernel in a few days |
| 05:14.28 | laurus | Would you like me to try it now? |
| 05:14.33 | Ichigo | Wouldn't the logs show that? |
| 05:14.43 | laurus | Ichigo, I forgot which part of the log is relevant |
| 05:14.48 | wols | usually they won't. hence why I said "what do you see" |
| 05:15.03 | laurus | wols, I will try restarting now, and come back and report to you :) |
| 05:15.05 | Ichigo | wols, I ask because I don't know :p |
| 05:15.15 | Ichigo | Not trying to say you're wrong |
| 05:15.18 | laurus | I will also show you the newly generated part of the log |
| 05:15.52 | wols | e.g. does the kernel boot and is it the init script where it crashes or is it when the kernel boots when it immediately reboots. that would be a help and then finding out which init script causes it if possible |
| 05:16.14 | laurus | wols, okay, I will rely on you to help me figure that out :) I am not an expert on this at all |
| 05:16.38 | laurus | Be right back ok? |
| 05:16.46 | wols | you can see when the kernel booting ends and init scripts start being run |
| 05:16.51 | laurus | Oh, okay |
| 05:17.03 | laurus | I will report to you what I saw |
| 05:17.17 | laurus | Be right back |
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| 05:20.01 | laurus | wols: It seems the problem has already been fixed somehow! |
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| 05:20.49 | wols | laurus: is it a amd based netbook? |
| 05:20.50 | laurus | wols, though I have another problem I wanted to ask about |
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| 05:20.53 | laurus | wols, yes, amd64 |
| 05:21.01 | DeM0nFiRe | laurus: What netbook is it? |
| 05:21.02 | wols | then it needed the non-free firmware |
| 05:21.16 | laurus | DeM0nFiRe: ASUS 1015PEM |
| 05:21.21 | laurus | wols, what do you mean? |
| 05:21.27 | laurus | What non-free firmware? |
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| 05:22.06 | wols | firmware for your radeon 6310 |
| 05:22.09 | DeM0nFiRe | Heh laurus then it's not amd based, it's x86_64 which is also referred to as amd64, but it's an intel based netbook |
| 05:22.24 | laurus | DeM0nFiRe: Oh sorry, right, my mistake |
| 05:22.34 | laurus | x86_64 :) |
| 05:23.05 | DeM0nFiRe | amd-based usually means AMD CPU and/or GPU (Dunno if any intel CPU netbook has AMD GPU, but I doubt it) |
| 05:23.15 | laurus | Ah I see. |
| 05:23.21 | laurus | wol, radeon 6310 is what? |
| 05:23.28 | laurus | Oh, never mind |
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| 05:23.38 | laurus | I also have a problem with the headphones on this notebook |
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| 05:23.44 | wols | laurus: not in your netbook. the AMD fusion based netbooks use that chip |
| 05:23.45 | laurus | Basically, they don't work :P |
| 05:23.53 | laurus | wols, understood, thanks :) |
| 05:24.06 | DeM0nFiRe | wols: Yeah he doesn't have an AMD based netbook :P Also, not all AMD based netbooks are fusion based, actually |
| 05:24.10 | DeM0nFiRe | I have one that is not |
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| 05:24.20 | DeM0nFiRe | AMD Neo K125 and AMD Radeon HD 4225 |
| 05:24.36 | laurus | Let me try this headphones fix and then I will tell you if I am still having problems after restarting, one second |
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| 05:26.02 | wols | DeM0nFiRe: hard to say if that one is a netbook. just hasn't the battery staying power to called a netbook :P |
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| 05:26.55 | DeM0nFiRe | wols: I get 4 to 8 hours depending on what I do |
| 05:27.03 | DeM0nFiRe | And I can always get a bigger batter if necessary |
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| 05:28.24 | DeM0nFiRe | But I mean, personally I think it's a much better design for a netbok |
| 05:28.24 | laurus | Well, two for two, the headphones work now with that fix when they didn't a few months ago. |
| 05:28.25 | wols | DeM0nFiRe: how many watts does it draw when idle? |
| 05:28.27 | DeM0nFiRe | netbook* |
| 05:28.37 | DeM0nFiRe | wols: I am not sure actually |
| 05:28.42 | DeM0nFiRe | I've never had the chance to check that |
| 05:29.28 | wols | your acpi tells you that. asked another way: how many Wh in your battery? |
| 05:30.45 | DeM0nFiRe | wols hold on let me find out |
| 05:30.54 | wols | DeM0nFiRe: current power draw is in /proc or /sys somewhere. always forget the exact place. find /proc -name *current* shows you which |
| 05:31.04 | wols | current powerdraw that is |
| 05:31.07 | DeM0nFiRe | I am not on the netbook now, that's the issue |
| 05:31.14 | DeM0nFiRe | Also I don't have linux installed on it yet |
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| 05:33.48 | DeM0nFiRe | wols: looks to be about 49 Wh if I did the calculation right |
| 05:33.54 | laurus | wols did you say you wanted an Asus laptop? |
| 05:33.57 | DeM0nFiRe | It's 4400 Ah 11.1v |
| 05:34.20 | DeM0nFiRe | Heh sorry |
| 05:34.24 | DeM0nFiRe | 4400 mAh |
| 05:34.36 | wols | laurus: no. defintely I don't. I like mine to last :) |
| 05:34.55 | laurus | wols, haha, right, I was going to advise against it... |
| 05:35.06 | laurus | DeM0nFiRe, was it you who said so? |
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| 05:36.37 | DeM0nFiRe | laurus: Nah I already have an Acer |
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| 05:36.54 | laurus | DeM0nFiRe, oh okay. Maybe I just imagined things |
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| 05:40.44 | laurus | Thanks for the help everyone :) |
| 05:40.46 | DeM0nFiRe | Ok wols according to some reviews, it's 6.2w idle |
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| 05:41.42 | DeM0nFiRe | It's very powerful compared to at least the atom netbooks that were out at the time, which is why I wanted it |
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| 05:42.56 | DeM0nFiRe | Plus if I need to I know I can find bigger batteries |
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| 05:46.44 | DeM0nFiRe | Heh wols see, I can come close to doubling the life if necessary http://www.global-laptop-batteries.com/acer-laptop-battery/Acer-Aspire-One-AO521-Battery.html :P |
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| 05:47.36 | DeM0nFiRe | 7800 mAh is 85 Wh, which is, you know 14 hours idle? |
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| 06:00.49 | jokar | o/ all |
| 06:01.09 | jokar | excuse me i want find a messenger for voice and phone |
| 06:01.22 | jokar | i see name of messenger like eigiki |
| 06:01.24 | DeM0nFiRe | Hey, how's it going? |
| 06:01.34 | jokar | can you show me a right name? |
| 06:02.19 | DeM0nFiRe | Sorry, I have no idea what you are asking |
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| 06:02.50 | jokar | i want name of messenger for voice and video chat |
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| 06:03.11 | DeM0nFiRe | Umm, skype? |
| 06:03.16 | jokar | no |
| 06:03.18 | jokar | anothert |
| 06:03.19 | IdleOne | ekiga |
| 06:03.26 | jokar | yeah |
| 06:03.28 | jokar | thanks |
| 06:03.30 | DeM0nFiRe | Oh, my bad heh |
| 06:03.33 | IdleOne | sure thing |
| 06:03.43 | jokar | can i use ekiga for calling? |
| 06:03.49 | IdleOne | yes |
| 06:04.02 | jokar | thanks very much |
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| 06:06.56 | [E]sc | apple osx has a feature that allows you to view all programs in a cascade format temporarily without making the actual window resize, does debian have this feature? or is it possible? |
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| 06:09.53 | wols | [E]sc: http://www.google.com/search?q=expose+for+compiz |
| 06:11.07 | [E]sc | sweet..thanks wols!! |
| 06:13.03 | h2n2 | Hey, happy weekend to everyone. I'm trying too extract the contents of a .deb file. I read about the 'ar' program, but I can't find it in the main contrib or non-free repos. As far as I could tell with the last 20 minutes of searches is I need this utility for the job. What am I missing? I am more than willing to read if pointed to a link or man page that could get me started. I'm running Squeeze, btw. Thanks. |
| 06:13.59 | boudiccas | h2n2; do you mean 'ark' ? |
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| 06:15.23 | Drizzt321 | I'm trying to follow these instructions (http://jeff.doozan.com/debian/) for installing Debian to a USB drive on an arm system (PogoPlug), but I'm getting stopped by debootstrap, which seems unable to determine the architecture |
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| 06:15.52 | Drizzt321 | /usr/share/debootstrap/ exists, but doesn't contain an arch directory |
| 06:16.22 | Drizzt321 | should there be one? |
| 06:16.31 | wols | h2n2: dpkg -x |
| 06:16.39 | wols | boudiccas: no, he means ar. |
| 06:16.47 | wols | !tell h2n2 about search |
| 06:16.51 | h2n2 | boudiccas, that will work? I was seeing references to 'ar'. example a bit down the page here http://www.g-loaded.eu/2008/01/28/how-to-extract-rpm-or-deb-packages/ |
| 06:17.13 | wols | h2n2: yes it is ar. and you can easily search for a program either via apt-file or via pdo |
| 06:17.13 | Drizzt321 | I guess the problem is there's no dpkg or udpkg to get the host architecture from, even though it's the same |
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| 06:18.49 | h2n2 | wols, I did search for ar both in the repos and on the net for about 20 min, like i mentioned. but thank you, I will move forward with your advice. Thanks, boudiccas =] |
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| 07:04.53 | Lasers | Hi. I'll install Debian in the farm area. The connection will blow. What is the best option? |
| 07:05.20 | Lasers | (Ah, I realized about LiveCD -- Is that what I want -- I want gnome-core though). |
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| 07:07.18 | Lasers | Err. Nevermind. Apparently I have been using netinst installation inthe past. |
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| 07:27.26 | Yancho | i am trying to upgrade my lenny, but the dist-upgrqade is giving a lot of errors : cannot initiate the connection to security.debian.org and an ipv6 in the brackets. however if i do nslookup the same domain i get an ipv4. any idea whats going haywire pls ? |
| 07:27.31 | jokar | o/ all |
| 07:27.47 | jokar | i want change my speech person in espeak or gnome spek |
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| 07:29.07 | jokar | i see http://cepstral.com/downloads/ and download some person and install it but how use they in Espeak or gnome Speak? |
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| 07:29.39 | dwhite | Yancho: try 'dig <name> aaaa', to see if there's an ipv6 record. sounds like you have an ipv6 address assigned to an interface, without v6 connectivity. |
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| 07:30.53 | Yancho | dwhite, dig name is ipv4 but dig name aaaa gives ipv |
| 07:30.53 | Yancho | 6 |
| 07:31.24 | dwhite | Yancho: so, ipv4 records are 'a' records, and ipv6 records are 'aaaa'. a dns name can have both. |
| 07:31.42 | Yancho | right |
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| 07:32.08 | Yancho | can i force apt to use only a records? |
| 07:32.37 | dwhite | Yancho: like i said, you probably have a basic network misconfiguration. try removing any ipv6 addresses you have assigned to your interfaces (ifconfig) |
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| 07:33.37 | Yancho | tried that - no ipv6 in /et/network/interfaces :S |
| 07:33.50 | dwhite | Yancho: and in the output of ifconfig? |
| 07:34.05 | Yancho | it shows an ipv6 ip too |
| 07:34.48 | dwhite | Yancho: if you have a non local-link address (fe80:...) assigned, then that's likely your problem. |
| 07:35.16 | Yancho | inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:98ff:fea0:81b7/64 Scope:Link |
| 07:36.18 | dwhite | you can disable ipv6 underneath: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/ |
| 07:36.52 | wols | !noipv6 |
| 07:36.52 | dpkg | To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for this change to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel (excluding loongson-2f flavour), add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
| 07:37.41 | Yancho | thanks wols - doing that |
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| 07:45.51 | Yancho | http://pastebin.com/ECYEpfQQ dwhite wols - problem is that now after applying the echo install line - ipv6 disappeared from ifconfig but still got the same error |
| 07:46.07 | wols | Yancho: you did reboot? |
| 07:46.12 | Yancho | yes |
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| 07:47.24 | wols | Yancho: just curious, any special reason you can't use squeeze? |
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| 07:47.51 | Yancho | wols im still on lenny |
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| 07:56.23 | lac | I am running wheezy/sid. I want to use the lastest version of firefox. I went to http://mozilla.debian.net/ to find out what to download. Do I tell it I am running testing or unstable? |
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| 08:04.17 | wols | lac: no need |
| 08:05.16 | wols | lac: read the instructions on that page more carefully |
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| 08:11.12 | wols | I wouldn't know. but I'm sure there are some docs for your TTS synthesizer |
| 08:11.46 | jokar | nah |
| 08:12.01 | jokar | i download some person form http://cepstral.com/downloads/ |
| 08:12.13 | jokar | and install they but how use they? |
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| 08:29.28 | vyadhaka | I just installed debian and am trying to setup sources, but I am unable to select "downloadable from the internet" options. Why is that? The only change I made so far was to add the user to sudoer's file |
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| 08:39.54 | babilen | vyadhaka: Did you relogin after modifying sudoers? (Please note that probably an easier way is to add your user to the "sudo" group (adduser YOURUSER sudo)) - Can you run whatever program you are complaining about with "gksudo PROGRAM"? |
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| 08:40.39 | babilen | vyadhaka: If all that does not work: Can you edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually? This is what a lot of people in here prefer and I am certainly more used to that way. |
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| 08:41.59 | vyadhaka | babilen: editing /etc/apt/sources.list is not a problem, I am just curious as to why I cannot do something this simple through the GUI! |
| 08:43.39 | babilen | *shrug* -- What kind of GUI are you using? Is it possible if you start the program with gksudo? consolekit installed? ... really not sure as I *never* user GUI tools for this. |
| 08:43.44 | babilen | s/user/use |
| 08:45.00 | spal | what is used in the boot menu? grub.cfg or menu.lst? |
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| 08:46.20 | babilen | spal: grub.cfg (grub2) -- but what are you trying to do? |
| 08:46.57 | spal | babilen, trying to troubleshoot something for a friend. she has /boot and grub.cfg properly created but when she boots, the system boots directly to windows. |
| 08:47.10 | spal | seems like GRUB didn't overwrite the MBR. |
| 08:48.27 | babilen | spal: Ok, you should also take a look at /etc/default/grub the *custom* scripts in /etc/grub.d/, os-prober and update-grub/grub-install -- I guess that a grub-install /dev/sdX is needed. |
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| 08:50.40 | spal | babilen, shouldn't ibe be grub-install /dev/hda ? |
| 08:50.58 | spal | sorry, grub-install /dev/sda ? |
| 08:50.58 | wols | spal: no |
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| 08:51.31 | wols | spal: which is why babilen said "/dev/sdX" since he doesn't know what disks you have there |
| 08:51.33 | babilen | spal: yes, "a" is a valid substitution for "X" in there, but I would assume that you want "grub-install /dev/sda" -- but you can not generalise that. |
| 08:51.49 | spal | okay |
| 08:52.16 | babilen | the "but I would ..." part doesn't make sense with your hda Ć¢ĀĀ sda correction ;) |
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| 08:56.48 | dudz_ | i just installed a new monitor, but now standard text sizes are really large |
| 08:57.24 | dudz_ | most things can't even fit on screen, its saying i have resolution set at 1920x1080 but its asif i'm using 640x480 |
| 08:58.01 | dudz_ | i'm using KDE though so perhaps not the place to ask about this |
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| 09:00.33 | iderik | I installed debian during the night and woke up to this while booting: http://pastebin.com/cMQUcaaG |
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| 09:01.21 | iderik | Somehow the tty cant be accessed. I am trying to run /sbin/init but i cant seem to find "/" on my swedish keyboard. Where is it located on your US keyboard? |
| 09:01.49 | jelly-home | iderik: do you have a numeric keypad? |
| 09:01.50 | iderik | Ok, i found the / |
| 09:02.04 | iderik | i didnt have to press shift or alt at all |
| 09:02.08 | babilen | vyadhaka: It might very well be that you need to install software-properties-gtk if that is not yet installed (and assuming you are talking about software-center not synaptic) |
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| 09:02.54 | iderik | jelly-home: "sbin/init" not found |
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| 09:03.49 | iderik | jelly-home: did you see my pastebin there? :) |
| 09:03.52 | JoeK | how do i get apt-get to use network instead of the install disk? |
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| 09:04.19 | th0r | JoeK: enable the online repositories |
| 09:04.26 | JoeK | er? |
| 09:05.03 | jelly-home | iderik: it sounds as if you've given the wrong root= parameter and initramfs tried to mount wrong filesystem as root |
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| 09:05.11 | th0r | JoeK: do you have access to synaptic? |
| 09:05.38 | JoeK | i just unchecked CD from software sources |
| 09:05.58 | iderik | jelly-home: is it possible for me to configure that from that prompt? |
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| 09:08.22 | jelly-home | iderik: you can set it at lilo prompt time, but figure out whether it's correct or not, first |
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| 09:09.10 | iderik | jelly-home: how to i break/stop in lilo prompt time? |
| 09:09.18 | iderik | cant i just open the init file from here? |
| 09:09.48 | jelly-home | iderik: that won't help |
| 09:09.53 | iderik | oh man, "/sys and /proc not found" sounds pretty heavy to me |
| 09:10.32 | jelly-home | iderik: verify the current kernel command line (/proc/cmdline) makes sense, and see if the root= parameter really points to your root filesystem |
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| 09:10.52 | Liquid-Silence | is there a way to make 3 harddisks look like 1? |
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| 09:11.14 | jelly-home | Liquid-Silence: what are you trying to accomplish |
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| 09:12.21 | Liquid-Silence | jelly-home I have some media items I want to create a nas forĆ¢ĀĀ¦. but with doing that I want to create say 2 x 2TB disks to be seen as 1 x 4TB to my network. so that I can put all the media in there and not have to map two shares to my mac |
| 09:12.39 | valdyn | Liquid-Silence: that would be really stupid |
| 09:12.56 | Liquid-Silence | valdyn the issue however is that itunes can only monitor one folder |
| 09:13.02 | Liquid-Silence | maybe symlinks |
| 09:13.05 | Liquid-Silence | will work |
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| 09:13.40 | valdyn | Liquid-Silence: you can do this, but that doesnt mean its a good solution. If one disk breaks you might lose all the data |
| 09:13.41 | Liquid-Silence | but now what will happen is Sports folder will be to big to fit on only 1 disk so it will span two |
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| 09:14.05 | Liquid-Silence | valdyn not really phased about redunance for media |
| 09:14.31 | Liquid-Silence | for software etc.. yes that I will use 2x 2tb disks in raid |
| 09:14.34 | valdyn | Liquid-Silence: maybe not, but youre trying to do the contrary of what redundance does |
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| 09:14.59 | iderik | jelly-home: "cat /proc/cmdline": "auto BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=815" |
| 09:15.01 | jelly-home | Liquid-Silence: you can use LVM and make a volume group with two physical disks as PVs |
| 09:15.02 | Liquid-Silence | valdyn like I said I am not phased about redunancy at this point in time |
| 09:15.27 | iderik | jelly-home: i cant see if that make sense to me at all |
| 09:15.41 | jelly-home | Liquid-Silence: and a large LV spanning the whole VG for the filesystem |
| 09:15.49 | Liquid-Silence | VG? |
| 09:15.56 | jelly-home | volume group |
| 09:16.04 | Liquid-Silence | hmmm |
| 09:16.08 | Liquid-Silence | that might work :) |
| 09:16.10 | valdyn | !lvm |
| 09:16.10 | dpkg | [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 09:16.58 | jelly-home | Liquid-Silence: you might also make a md raid0 array if the disks are the same size, but extending that array if you get a third disk might be fun |
| 09:17.18 | Liquid-Silence | jelly-home the thing is I have too much media and photos |
| 09:17.26 | Liquid-Silence | and 1 2TB disk is not working |
| 09:17.41 | Liquid-Silence | so I need to expand it but by keeping the folders intact |
| 09:17.50 | valdyn | Liquid-Silence: you should get a 3rd disk, then this isnt as insane anymore |
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| 09:18.09 | Liquid-Silence | valdyn then the items are spanned over 2 disks |
| 09:18.16 | valdyn | Liquid-Silence: or get rid of 2 TB, as youre doing to have a disk break sooner or later anyway |
| 09:18.20 | Liquid-Silence | itunes can only map one media folder |
| 09:18.34 | jelly-home | iderik: 815 in root=815, if I remember correctly, means a device with major number 0x08, minor 0x15, that is /dev/sdb5 |
| 09:18.40 | valdyn | Liquid-Silence: nah, with 3 disks you can do raid5 |
| 09:18.57 | Liquid-Silence | will it be seen as 1 6TB disk then? |
| 09:19.23 | valdyn | Liquid-Silence: raid 5 adds redundancy, thats 4 TB with 3 2TB disks |
| 09:19.36 | Liquid-Silence | ah I see |
| 09:19.38 | jelly-home | Liquid-Silence: valdyn seems to suggest you making an array that can survive dying of one disk |
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| 09:19.56 | Liquid-Silence | but can I then see it as 1 4TB folder? |
| 09:20.13 | jelly-home | if you format a single large 4TB filesystem on it, sure |
| 09:20.23 | Lasers | LVM? |
| 09:20.45 | Lasers | Oh you mentioned it already. |
| 09:20.55 | Liquid-Silence | jelly-home even though it is 2 x 2TB? |
| 09:21.03 | babilen | lvm seems to be a sensible choice -- why don't you like that solution, Liquid-Silence? |
| 09:21.17 | valdyn | babilen: he likes it, I dont |
| 09:21.22 | Liquid-Silence | babilen just checking mate :) |
| 09:21.29 | Liquid-Silence | valdyn makes some valid points |
| 09:21.45 | jelly-home | Liquid-Silence: there are multiple ways to make 2 (or more) physical devices look like one larger device |
| 09:21.49 | Liquid-Silence | maybe I must just go out and buy 4 x 3TB |
| 09:22.11 | Liquid-Silence | going to have to be software raid though this machine does not do raid :( |
| 09:22.25 | valdyn | Liquid-Silence: software raid is perfectly fine |
| 09:22.30 | babilen | indeed |
| 09:22.31 | jelly-home | if the user doesn't care about all the data going away when one disk dies... |
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| 09:23.06 | iderik | jelly-home: im not sure if that is root, but it feels correct since there is 4 primaries. i made a partioning with seperate /home. |
| 09:23.37 | jelly-home | iderik: well, first find out which partition IS your root |
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| 09:24.50 | iderik | jelly-home: any suggestion on how to? dmesg didnt gave me much i guess |
| 09:25.06 | jelly-home | iderik: mount each one and see what's there? |
| 09:26.09 | iderik | jelly-home: i cant even mount anything, since /etc/fstab doesnt exist |
| 09:26.11 | vyadhaka | babilen: I can install fine from software-centre, cannot from synaptic. also adding USER ALL=(ALL) ALL to the sudoers file not advisable right? so to give a user admin rights, do I add them to the adm group or sudo group? |
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| 09:26.43 | valdyn | vyadhaka: adm does not get admin rights |
| 09:27.00 | jelly-home | iderik: you don't need /etc/fstab to mount filesystems manually |
| 09:27.08 | iderik | i am also thinking of burning the netinst to a cd, since i had problems with the usbmemory last night. it would have been great with a clean install without errors :) |
| 09:27.35 | sveinse | Hi. I'm building a debian package, and I'd like to append a build number to its version number without having to edit debian/changelog. Is there a way I can change rules to allow for this? I guess I could autogenerate debian/changelog from another file and insert the version number there |
| 09:27.36 | babilen | vyadhaka: it is perfectly fine to add that to your sudoers, it is just an alternative to add your user to the sudo group which achieves the same. |
| 09:28.17 | babilen | sveinse: no, why don't you want to edit debian/changelog? Please note that packaging support is typically done in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 09:28.20 | jelly-home | iderik: mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /somemointpoint (fix the fs type, the device, the mountpoint) |
| 09:28.44 | JoeK | client.c:27:18: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory |
| 09:28.49 | JoeK | where do i get that zlib package? |
| 09:29.01 | valdyn | JoeK: use apt-cache search |
| 09:29.13 | JoeK | i get tons of results, including php5 |
| 09:29.30 | vyadhaka | valdyn, babilen: ok, whats a better option: adding USER ALL=(ALL) ALL or %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL and then adding the user to the admin group? |
| 09:29.56 | valdyn | vyadhaka: you mean sudo group |
| 09:30.03 | babilen | JoeK: You probably want zlib1g-dev -- try "apt-file search -x 'zlib.h$'" |
| 09:30.17 | valdyn | vyadhaka: none is better, its a matter of taste |
| 09:30.25 | babilen | +1 |
| 09:30.28 | naequs | hello |
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| 09:30.35 | naequs | what device does acpitz-virtual-0 represent in the lm_sensors output ? because according to sensors its becoming near critically hot but the laptop just doesnt feel that hot. |
| 09:30.57 | naequs | and coretemp-isa-0000 looks fine |
| 09:31.01 | sveinse | babilen: Thanks, I'll head over to that channel |
| 09:31.12 | jelly-home | JoeK: in Debian, development packages containing headers have a "-dev" appended to the name. So, apt-cache search zlib dev |
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| 09:31.50 | sveinse | babilen: Well, simply because I'd like to have the svn revision number embedded in the package version number, and I don't want to to it manually all the time |
| 09:32.03 | vyadhaka | valdyn: is sudo group same as admin group? also how does one administer the system after installing it for the first time, if they don't have admin privileges |
| 09:32.29 | valdyn | vyadhaka: the root user always has admin privileges |
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| 09:32.48 | valdyn | vyadhaka: i dont know what admin group youre talking about, theres no admin group |
| 09:32.49 | jelly-home | vyadhaka: there is no group named "admin" in Debian by default |
| 09:33.10 | valdyn | vyadhaka: theres "adm" but thats a group that can read log files, maybe some other stuff, it does not get admin rights |
| 09:33.44 | vyadhaka | jelly-home: ok, then why do they use %admin in sudoers? just confusing |
| 09:34.01 | beardy | vyadhaka: You use 'su', or if you orefer and configure it; 'sudo'. |
| 09:34.13 | beardy | prefer* |
| 09:34.20 | jelly-home | vyadhaka: it's an example! |
| 09:34.39 | vyadhaka | jelly-home: ok |
| 09:34.44 | iderik | jelly-home: is it possible to see the size of each mount? thanks for helping, this is so much learning going on :D |
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| 09:35.14 | jelly-home | iderik: the initramfs shell is very restricted, I'm not sure there's a df command |
| 09:35.24 | beardy | iderik: df, 'df -h' you might want |
| 09:35.34 | jelly-home | iderik: you don't need to see sizes though, just look at the contents |
| 09:35.35 | iderik | jelly-home: i found a system on sda3 too, but i think that is my backup partion, but its too weird that it contains all system files, like /sys, /proc and so on |
| 09:35.38 | beardy | Hmmkaythen. |
| 09:36.00 | iderik | jelly-home: i know that my backup partion is around 50gb, that was why i wanted to know |
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| 09:36.42 | jelly-home | iderik: cat /sys/block/sda/size if /sys is mounted |
| 09:36.48 | jelly-home | (it ought to be) |
| 09:36.50 | iderik | jelly-home: omg, i found a system on sd7 too.. |
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| 09:37.24 | jelly-home | iderik: note that number is probably in 512B sectors |
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| 09:37.45 | jelly-home | so divide by 2 for KiB |
| 09:38.00 | iderik | jelly-home: lets try to put rootpath to sda7, how do i do that? :D |
| 09:38.12 | naequs | does anyone know what the acpitz-virtual-0 device represents in the lm_sensors output ? |
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| 09:38.41 | jelly-home | iderik: at lilo prompt, write linux root=/dev/sda7 |
| 09:39.13 | iderik | jelly-home: i still not sure how to stay at lilo prompt, it goes to fast and goes pass it |
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| 09:39.36 | jelly-home | iderik: hold shift or alt before it appears |
| 09:39.38 | beardy | iderik: Press shift. |
| 09:39.45 | iderik | oh cool |
| 09:39.48 | jelly-home | or play with caps lock |
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| 09:40.02 | beardy | Or all of the above, plus Ctrl. |
| 09:40.10 | jelly-home | only thing capslock is good for |
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| 09:40.25 | beardy | It can make you walk or run too. |
| 09:40.40 | iderik | hehe |
| 09:41.38 | iderik | oh god, where is the "=" on your US keyboards? |
| 09:42.04 | beardy | Left of Backspace. |
| 09:42.17 | beardy | IIRC. |
| 09:42.20 | iderik | thanks |
| 09:42.34 | beardy | left of right Shift |
| 09:42.37 | amero | how do you change num of fd allowed for a process with ulimit? |
| 09:42.39 | vyadhaka | I added USER ALL=(ALL) ALL to the sudoers file and after logging back in synaptic opens up as superuser, is that alright? |
| 09:42.48 | beardy | / left of right Shift :) |
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| 09:43.05 | iderik | ya :) i found that one few minutes ago hehe |
| 09:43.16 | jelly-home | amero: "help ulimit |
| 09:43.21 | Marcin12 | Hello |
| 09:43.27 | jelly-home | or run-help ulimit in zsh |
| 09:43.48 | babilen | vyadhaka: sounds plausible |
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| 09:44.23 | amero | jelly-home: i know all those options but how to use it? |
| 09:44.39 | jelly-home | amero: ulimit -n 500 |
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| 09:44.55 | vyadhaka | babilen: ok |
| 09:44.58 | iderik | ok, ive tried "root=/dev/sda7" and all other numbers, all tries gave me: "No such image. [Tab] shows a list." this tab gave me a menu with "Linux" in it, i guess that is the one it tried to use before |
| 09:45.31 | jelly-home | iderik: did you forget "Linux" in front of the root= parameter |
| 09:45.40 | iderik | yes! |
| 09:46.21 | iderik | loading linux..... |
| 09:46.31 | amero | jelly-home: does that affect all process tht are already running? |
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| 09:47.01 | jelly-home | amero: it affects only the current process, that shell you're running it in, and its future children |
| 09:48.15 | jelly-home | amero: what are you trying to achieve, really |
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| 09:52.34 | amero | i'm setting up a socks proxy and i was told to raise the fd for the socks process if i need to support more clients connections |
| 09:52.50 | iderik | jelly-home: I GOT IN TO DEBIAN! :D |
| 09:53.14 | amero | but i never found a proper doc how to use the ulimit when starting up a process |
| 09:53.25 | iderik | is there any downside of using Lilo instead of Grub? should I change to Grub? |
| 09:55.10 | iderik | reading about lilo vs grub |
| 09:55.50 | White_R | hello :-) I'm running debian stable (with a 2.6.37 kernel) on an asus eee pc 1215p which mounts a broadcom BCM4313. By default, the module used is brcm80211 which doesn't support neither ad-hoc nor master mode. How can I fix this? How can I get ad-hoc capability? |
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| 09:56.17 | iderik | jelly-home: i want to know why lilo choose wrong partion, do you have any idea? was my misstake when installing lilo? i could choose from a list and i took the recommended one |
| 09:56.55 | vyadhaka | now that I can install software, how do I find out what non-firmware I need to install to get full functionality. I believe I need to install firmware-iwlwifi to get the wireless working. Is there a good documentation on how to look for missing firmware and also how to install it? I searched debian website and didnot come up with one. |
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| 09:57.22 | vyadhaka | sorry I meant non-free firmware |
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| 09:58.07 | jelly-home | iderik: dunno. fix your /etc/lilo.conf and rerun lilo |
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| 10:00.15 | jelly-home | amero: well. For interactive shells, you'd enable pam_limits in /etc/pam.d/* (depending on how your users log in) and put settings in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 10:00.36 | jelly-home | amero: for a service, I guess you can put an ulimit command in its init script |
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| 10:01.24 | jelly-home | iderik: and consider installing grub instead, it offers a bit more flexibility for when things go wrong |
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| 10:02.17 | trnzmeta | anyone know what the default mysql base dir is debian? |
| 10:02.55 | babilen | trnzmeta: /var/lib/mysql |
| 10:03.31 | trnzmeta | thanks |
| 10:03.32 | amero | jelly-home: any way to query and retrieve the fd numbers that a process is running with? |
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| 10:03.50 | jelly-home | amero: lsof |
| 10:03.55 | jelly-home | oh, the limits? |
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| 10:04.18 | amero | yup |
| 10:04.46 | jelly-home | amero: maybe something in /proc/PID/ |
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| 10:07.05 | iderik | jelly-home: it says when ive configged lilo.conf i must run lilo. does it mean to run lilo at reboot like it does automaticly or now when i am in debian? |
| 10:07.13 | iderik | i tried but the lilo command does not exist |
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| 10:16.50 | jelly-home | iderik: it ought to be in root's PATH |
| 10:17.59 | jelly-home | iderik: and you need to run it in your linux, every time you change the configuration |
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| 10:21.58 | amero | jelly-home: yeah found it. it's in /proc/pid/limits |
| 10:22.05 | amero | many thanks :) |
| 10:22.44 | iderik | yes, thanks for all the help, jelly-home :) |
| 10:23.52 | iderik | what is the different with "root=" and "boot=" in lilo.conf? |
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| 10:25.09 | qop | hello |
| 10:25.37 | iderik | i have a seperate root partion on sda5 and /home on sda7. should both root= and boot= be set to sda5? |
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| 10:27.31 | qop | I need to access machine A remotely, IP of A is dynamic and I need to access it from remote machine B. Without using a dns service, how can I know what teh current IP of A is at any time? Any suggestion? probably some script to paste ip somewhere over the internet, or use email, dunno |
| 10:28.50 | qop | iderik: I dont think boot= would be mandatory is that case |
| 10:29.13 | jelly-home | iderik: boot is your boot device, the disk BIOS tries to boot from |
| 10:29.38 | jelly-home | iderik: so /dev/sda (most likely) and not any partition |
| 10:29.53 | cusco | qop: what is wrong with a dns service? |
| 10:30.43 | qop | cusco: I dont need to access this machine too often |
| 10:31.11 | iderik | jelly-home: when i try to run lilo to update the configuration, i get a "warning: LBA32 addressing assumed." should I skip that and install grub now? or should i fix the problem first? |
| 10:31.30 | jelly-home | iderik: that's just a warning |
| 10:31.34 | cusco | qop: you need it enough to have the trouble of asking here how to get the ip.. |
| 10:31.47 | cusco | a dns service seems fairly easy, and it should protect your data |
| 10:31.54 | cusco | unlike pasting to some random public site |
| 10:31.58 | petemc | qop: if machine B runs a service like httpd you could have a script on machine A that wgets a unique request that you could search for in the logs |
| 10:32.06 | qop | jelly-home: actually that is if the drive is set to boot from mbr but if it / is in some partition somewhere in sdc... |
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| 10:32.56 | qop | then partiion can be specified, though there is the root (hd0,0) and so |
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| 10:33.16 | jelly-home | qop: we're discussing lilo.conf |
| 10:33.24 | qop | petemc: uhm, I like that |
| 10:33.32 | qop | jelly-home: oh sorry |
| 10:34.10 | qop | souldnt guess anybody still uses lilo |
| 10:34.30 | cusco | you do.. |
| 10:35.31 | qop | petemc: except that A would be spamming B if it cant find it and I still have to run a dyndns in B |
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| 10:35.52 | vyadhaka1 | I am trying to get my USB t |
| 10:36.20 | qop | there must be some easier way to know the ip... best thing I can come up with is an automated email |
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| 10:39.44 | jelly-home | qop: how is a http GET request more complicated than email? |
| 10:39.46 | petemc | qop: your reluctance to use dns is hard to understand |
| 10:40.18 | vyadhaka1 | I am trying to get my USB DVB-T tuner working, dmesg says it needs dvb-usb-af9015.fw firmware, and also http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DigitalNow_TinyTwin_DVB-T_Receiver says it's supported since 2.6.34, I am on 2.6.32, should I move to 2.6.34 or higher or is there another way to get this working? here's dmesg output http://paste.debian.net/126078/ |
| 10:40.35 | dodobas | hi |
| 10:41.02 | dodobas | when i put laptop to suspend while on charger and turn it on without charger pluged in, system still thinks that charger is plugged in |
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| 10:41.27 | dodobas | disabling laptop-tools |
| 10:42.02 | qop | jelly-home: not more complicated... wel yes but the problem is that I would be running a server on one of those machines, apache in this case and I dont want/need a web server running constantly |
| 10:42.55 | qop | jelly-home: besides when B is down I have to make a script to hold until it is available or to ping B before seding etc... |
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| 10:43.34 | qop | petemc: I know that is one of the two reasons that dns exist ;) I just need A to be as silent as possible |
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| 10:44.08 | u19809 | hi all, I have trouble with my networkmanager who things my cable is unplugged and refuses to setup my wired lan |
| 10:44.08 | u19809 | running ifup does work if I put eth0 in my interfaces file |
| 10:44.31 | qop | and a single email or scripted paste makes just one small connection |
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| 10:47.17 | qop | btw, also... does anybody remember how to get the vga modes available... cant recall |
| 10:47.27 | jelly-home | qop: but can A even know when its public address has changed without going to the interwebs |
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| 10:48.02 | qop | jelly-home: it can ask the router ;) |
| 10:48.09 | jelly-home | that's nice |
| 10:48.15 | qop | which can be as noisy as it wants |
| 10:48.36 | jelly-home | at least you're not polling whatismyip.com |
| 10:48.59 | qop | D: I want it silent no |
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| 10:53.52 | vyadhaka1 | whats the best way to install missing firmware? |
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| 10:55.46 | aminpy | how can I find a file with ignore case option? |
| 10:56.07 | iderik | I just installed grub with apt-get and it went fine. I still cant execute grub-install or grub commands, neither does the conf exist. any idea of what just happend? |
| 10:56.59 | iderik | this is the last line from apt-get: "Setting up grub (0.97-64) ..." |
| 10:57.03 | iderik | looks like it went fine imo |
| 11:00.40 | babilen | iderik: Why not grub2? |
| 11:01.04 | iderik | babilen: ya, my misstake, i installed grub2 |
| 11:01.17 | iderik | still commands does not exist |
| 11:01.23 | babilen | which command? |
| 11:01.28 | iderik | grub-install |
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| 11:01.40 | iderik | neither does the conf exist |
| 11:01.58 | iderik | i went efter this guide: www.wiki.debian.org/FromLiloToGrub |
| 11:02.05 | babilen | iderik: try /usr/sbin/grub-install |
| 11:02.19 | iderik | ive only done the first step: apt-get install grub |
| 11:02.20 | babilen | iderik: And which configuration are you looking for? |
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| 11:02.36 | iderik | i looked for /boot/grub.menu.lst |
| 11:02.46 | iderik | according to that tutorial |
| 11:03.32 | iderik | babilen: ok! worked great |
| 11:04.08 | iderik | now "grup-update" doesnt exist :O ive tried in /usr/sbin/ too |
| 11:04.14 | qop | iderik: updatedb && locate grub.menu.lst can do too ;) |
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| 11:04.44 | iderik | i ran "/usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda" |
| 11:04.51 | babilen | iderik: That page gives information about grub1 not grub2 -- The way to configure grub significantly changed between grub (pkg: grub) and grub2 (pkg: grub-pc) |
| 11:05.25 | babilen | iderik: It looks as if you installed the old grub not grub2, is that correct? |
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| 11:05.33 | qop | also you can run the installl from within grub shell isnt it |
| 11:05.38 | babilen | yes |
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| 11:06.14 | iderik | babilen: ah damn. so ive installed grub now, and not grub2 |
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| 11:07.00 | babilen | No problem, you can use lilo, grub or grub2 - your decision. I just wanted to know what we are talking about. |
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| 11:07.03 | qop | babilen: dpkg -s grub |
| 11:07.13 | babilen | qop: thanks ;) |
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| 11:07.26 | iderik | babilen: i want to remove lilo (and now grub1 also) and install grub2 :) |
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| 11:07.44 | valdyn | iderik: apt-get install grub-pc |
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| 11:07.59 | babilen | Ok, then please install grub-pc -- Do you have other operating systems on that computer as well and if yes which? |
| 11:08.17 | iderik | valdyn: could you please tell me what that does? im kind of scared when playing with MBR, its my first time doing this stuff |
| 11:08.46 | babilen | iderik: don't be scared -- there is *always* a way out. Can you come here even if you bork that computer? |
| 11:09.02 | iderik | no other OS, just another EXT3 partion which is my backup, so no other system |
| 11:09.07 | valdyn | iderik: theres no point in switching boot manager unless your old one makes problems |
| 11:09.08 | babilen | iderik: Also: Which version of Debian are you using? |
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| 11:09.25 | qop | agree |
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| 11:09.37 | iderik | babilen: yes, i am chattign with you right now from my laptop. i am doing this on my stationary |
| 11:09.59 | iderik | i am using version 2.30.2 |
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| 11:10.47 | aminpy | when I run locate command, I see command not found! |
| 11:10.52 | iderik | babilen: "already the newest version of grub-pc" |
| 11:10.58 | jason404 | dpkg-buildpackage: error: tail of debian/changelog gave error exit status 1 |
| 11:11.07 | babilen | iderik: marvellous, nothing to worry about then. Just install grub-pc and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/sdX" where X should be subsituted with a,b or c. You will, most likely, want to use sda (first hdd) |
| 11:11.18 | jason404 | what do I do when there is no debian/changelog ? |
| 11:11.24 | jason404 | do I just use make or what? |
| 11:11.37 | babilen | iderik: You had grub-pc installed already ;) |
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| 11:12.10 | babilen | jason404: What are you trying to do? Debian packages need a debian/changelog |
| 11:12.33 | iderik | babilen: grub-install doesnt exist, neither in /usr/sbin/ |
| 11:12.41 | jason404 | I am trying to install a generic package from source |
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| 11:13.38 | jason404 | babilen: the package is imagemagick . the version in the debian repo is very old |
| 11:13.45 | babilen | iderik: Which Debian version do you use (squeeze / 6.0.1 for example) -- also what does "dpkg -l grub-pc | tail -1" give you? |
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| 11:13.56 | babilen | ,versions imagemagick |
| 11:13.57 | judd | Package imagemagick on i386 -- lenny-security: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg2-1~lenny3; lenny: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg2-1~lenny4; squeeze: 8:6.6.0.4-3; sid: 8:6.6.9.7-5; wheezy: 8:6.6.9.7-5 |
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| 11:14.30 | babilen | jason404: I am not sure about that package, but you might be able to backport it. The procedure of doing so is outlined in "/msg dpkg ssb" |
| 11:14.39 | Arial456 | my laptop mic is not working.. I 've tried to configure alsamixer... but i dont know if my settings are proper.. help plz |
| 11:14.49 | jason404 | babilen: ok thanks |
| 11:15.29 | babilen | jason404: You could also install it locally from upstream sources to /usr/local -- If you go that route I would suggest to use stow to manage those installations. Ask dpkg about <stow> <stow usage> and <usrlocal> |
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| 11:16.14 | iderik | babilen: 2.30.2 squeeze. command gave me: "ii grub-pc 1.98+20100804-14 GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC-BIOS version) |
| 11:16.21 | jason404 | babilen: ok thanks |
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| 11:17.19 | babilen | iderik: Do you have to type all this information or can you paste from the box in question? (i.e. do you have network access?) |
| 11:18.09 | babilen | iderik: Looks as if the symbolic link is gone -- is /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/grub-install there? |
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| 11:18.10 | iderik | babilen: that was all |
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| 11:19.08 | babilen | iderik: I know, that is all I needed, but knowing that you have to type everything by hand will change my questions from "paste info a b c and d" to "if you look at a do you see foo?" ;) |
| 11:19.48 | babilen | iderik: Regardless of all that: I have to go and will be back later. I would recommend to remove grub (grub 1 that is) and reinstall grub-pc |
| 11:20.35 | iderik | how do i remove grub1? |
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| 11:21.02 | iderik | babilen: and there is no grub-install in that folder |
| 11:21.34 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 11:25.02 | qop | iderik: apt-get update |
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| 11:25.17 | johabba | I'm compiling something and I need to make the Makefile aware of some extra include files. I have the options of editing CFLAGS or OPTFLAGS variable. To which variable can I add "-I/usr/include/myincludes"? |
| 11:25.25 | qop | iderik: oops... apt-get install locate |
| 11:26.01 | iderik | qop: installed :) |
| 11:26.02 | qop | iderik: also: which grub-install |
| 11:26.17 | qop | iderik: updatedb && locate grub-install |
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| 11:26.56 | iderik | /usr/sbin/grub-install |
| 11:27.06 | iderik | but isnt that grub1 now? |
| 11:27.15 | qop | iderik: /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda (or whatever) |
| 11:27.58 | iderik | finished, no errors |
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| 11:28.33 | iderik | but i do still have grub1 on the computer, how do i remove it? even tho its not installed, i think |
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| 11:29.00 | valdyn | iderik: does your computer boot using the new grub2? |
| 11:29.01 | qop | iderik: its all set, try: dpkg -s grub && dpkg -s grub2 |
| 11:29.18 | Jarvis | grub-install exists in both grub and grub-pc |
| 11:29.22 | qop | so it tells you which one is instaled |
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| 11:30.40 | iderik | qop: package: grub, installed ok. |
| 11:30.52 | iderik | qop: "packaged grub 2 is not installed and no info is avaaible" |
| 11:30.59 | Jarvis | the package name is grub-pc |
| 11:31.08 | Jarvis | for grub2 |
| 11:31.18 | iderik | it says just "grub" |
| 11:31.26 | Jarvis | thats grub 1 then |
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| 11:31.34 | qop | oh yes sorry, dpkg -s grub-pc |
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| 11:32.11 | iderik | grub-pc is also installed ok |
| 11:32.28 | qop | iderik: apt-get remove grub && apt-get install grub-pc && grub-install /dev/sda (or whatever) |
| 11:33.39 | iderik | instlatioin finished |
| 11:33.51 | qop | iderik: grub-install -v tells you version too, you can append --help tomostly any comand and get more info |
| 11:34.19 | iderik | now that dpkg test says "grub: deinstall ok config-files" |
| 11:34.25 | iderik | and grub-pc installed ok |
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| 11:35.09 | iderik | grub-install (GRUB) 1.98+20100804-14 |
| 11:35.26 | TestingTesting1 | I am getting this weired error while installing valac? e.g: https://gist.github.com/1143756 |
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| 11:35.43 | iderik | are we ready to test grub2? or do we need any grub1 configfiles? |
| 11:35.45 | qop | iderik: google say thats grub2 |
| 11:35.56 | Jarvis | grub-pc will automatically remove grub when it installs .. and it usually updates the bootsector when it does so as well |
| 11:36.10 | qop | iderik: you neet to locate and edit the grub.conf and grub.map |
| 11:36.29 | qop | or at least make sure it is right |
| 11:37.29 | Jarvis | the first boot chainloads grub2 from grub 1 |
| 11:37.41 | Jarvis | if i recall |
| 11:37.44 | qop | does anybody remember how to list vga modes? or at least how to translate 317 to 31a and so? |
| 11:38.01 | Jarvis | not sure if it will fail back to normal boot if the chainload fails however |
| 11:38.54 | TestingTesting1 | apt-get install valac gives error. Is this normal? |
| 11:38.59 | iderik | i did updatedb and located grub.conf and grub.map, none was found |
| 11:39.26 | Jarvis | its called grub.cfg |
| 11:39.33 | Jarvis | and its not designed to be edited |
| 11:39.34 | valdyn | ...and devices.map |
| 11:39.54 | Jarvis | the files are in /boot/grub usually |
| 11:40.13 | Jarvis | its basically making sure they exist and that devices.map points at something valid |
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| 11:40.26 | Jarvis | the first boot will use the legacy config anyways |
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| 11:41.04 | qop | Jarvis: though his original bootloader was lilo, not sure grub2 will take the info from it |
| 11:41.10 | Jarvis | ah |
| 11:41.26 | valdyn | qop: which info would it need to take? |
| 11:41.29 | Jarvis | i've never done the upgrade path from lilo > g2 :/ |
| 11:41.46 | iderik | i didnt find any .cfg in /boot/grub, but i found the device.map in there |
| 11:41.59 | valdyn | iderik: that file is autogenerated, dont worry about it |
| 11:41.59 | qop | valdyn: drive paths, kernel parametrs... |
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| 11:42.42 | qop | b.conf |
| 11:43.10 | Jarvis | i don't think theres an automatic upgrade from lilo > grub-pc :/ |
| 11:43.16 | qop | iderik: its probably /etc/grub.conf |
| 11:43.33 | Jarvis | thats the legacy file |
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| 11:43.37 | valdyn | there doesnt need to be an "upgrade" path unless you have special kernel parameters |
| 11:43.38 | qop | :\ |
| 11:43.39 | Jarvis | from grub v1 |
| 11:43.53 | qop | Jarvis: well g2 will read it too |
| 11:43.59 | Jarvis | it will ? |
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| 11:44.15 | Jarvis | i thought it only looked at grub.cfg in the boot directory :/ |
| 11:44.15 | valdyn | qop: "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" should ask you all questions that are relevant |
| 11:44.21 | qop | Jarvis: it reads from legacy in your own words ;) |
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| 11:44.44 | qop | valdyn: probably yes |
| 11:44.44 | iderik | qop: no, but there is a folder named "grub.d" and inside there is few files name: 00_header, 10_linux, and so on. |
| 11:45.11 | valdyn | it reads your chainloaders from old grub for example, but it *also* autodetects windows, so then you get to have 2 identical entries for windows |
| 11:45.20 | Jarvis | from legacy grub yes, but if the system was originally lilo :s |
| 11:45.24 | TestingTesting1 | how do you fix such? e.g: https://gist.github.com/1143756 |
| 11:45.48 | Jarvis | gah got to go :/ |
| 11:46.34 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: show us the perl version you get in "dpkg -l perl" |
| 11:46.41 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: and your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:46.48 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: and the output for "uname -r" |
| 11:47.45 | aguitel | i am in squeeze ,how change the wallpaper in the panel in kde ? |
| 11:48.21 | jelly-home | TestingTesting1: if anything wants to upgrade "libc6" as part of its installation process, it means it might not be good for you installed debian release |
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| 11:49.11 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: you have unstalbe sources in there |
| 11:49.16 | qop | aguitel: is that kde4? |
| 11:49.20 | iderik | qop: hmm, i found two cfg in /usr/share/doc/grub-pc/examples/grub.cfg |
| 11:49.30 | aguitel | qop, yes |
| 11:49.36 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: that should imply that you read the sid faq ( sid = unstable ), and are capable of fixing this yourself |
| 11:49.59 | qop | aguitel: systemconfig and find the desktop theme module, you can download themes online |
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| 11:51.36 | qop | iderik: just rebot and see if it works, also as valdyn said you could try: dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc |
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| 11:52.59 | TestingTesting1 | valdyn: thank you please have a look here. https://gist.github.com/1143756 |
| 11:53.49 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: yea, remove the unstable sources, maybe its not to late for that |
| 11:53.51 | aguitel | qop, ok |
| 11:54.00 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: after that run "apt-get update" |
| 11:54.32 | qop | iderik: also: http://urly.it/14pb should explain many things |
| 11:54.48 | valdyn | judd: versions valac |
| 11:54.49 | judd | Package valac on i386 -- lenny: 0.3.4-1; squeeze: 0.8.1-2; sid: 0.10.4-1; wheezy: 0.10.4-1 |
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| 11:55.36 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: what you precisely needed to remove is the deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 11:55.40 | iderik | qop: it didnt boot, but i got to grub prompt |
| 11:55.47 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: removing the deb-src line is ok, but not required |
| 11:56.08 | aguitel | is anyway to upgrade kde4 to 4.7 in squeeze ? |
| 11:56.31 | valdyn | judd: versions kdebase |
| 11:56.32 | judd | Package kdebase on i386 -- lenny: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; lenny-security: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; squeeze: 5:66 |
| 11:56.47 | valdyn | !kde4 |
| 11:56.47 | dpkg | Squeeze released with version 4.4 of <KDE>. Ask me about <install kde4> for details of the various metapackages available. Assistance is also available in #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 11:57.07 | TestingTesting1 | valdyn: thanks doing now the apt-get update ..... |
| 11:57.11 | iderik | qop: it says, root is (hd0,msdos5): filesystem is ext2. i cant remember setting any partion to ext2. my root is sda5 |
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| 11:57.41 | valdyn | iderik: ext3 filesystems are *readable* as ext2 filesystems |
| 11:57.59 | valdyn | iderik: and thats all that really matters to a boot manager that never writes to it |
| 11:58.16 | iderik | valdyn: any idea why it didnt boot? it didnt gave me any error, just grub prompt |
| 11:58.19 | TestingTesting1 | valdyn: Still gives error https://gist.github.com/1143756 |
| 11:58.21 | qop | iderik: ext3 and ext4 are ext2 with "addons" |
| 11:58.52 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: i think the package is valac, not vala |
| 11:59.07 | iderik | hd0,msdos5, is that the same as hda,sda5? :O |
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| 11:59.12 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: err |
| 11:59.39 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: try "aptitude install valac" |
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| 11:59.50 | qop | iderik: yes, just look at the link I gave you, it should do |
| 12:00.19 | qop | grub update could do anyway |
| 12:00.34 | qop | but check it out |
| 12:01.15 | TestingTesting1 | valdyn: maybe its installed but still i get that strange error https://gist.github.com/1143774 |
| 12:01.46 | valdyn | judd: versions libc6 |
| 12:01.48 | judd | Package libc6 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze: 2.11.2-10; wheezy: 2.13-10; sid: 2.13-16 |
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| 12:02.02 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: problem is you already installed some unstable packages |
| 12:02.21 | TestingTesting1 | valdyn: can i rollback to 0? |
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| 12:02.52 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: maybe you can, but i cannot walk you through downgrading the libc6 package |
| 12:03.25 | TestingTesting1 | valdyn: if i remove it? |
| 12:03.44 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: that package is crucial for everything, its not removable |
| 12:03.51 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: ( without breaking everything ) |
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| 12:04.28 | qop | seriously???? dyndns new slogan is: "Don't be an idiot; become a VIP!" :o |
| 12:04.31 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: is this a newly installed system? |
| 12:04.40 | TestingTesting1 | valdyn: yes |
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| 12:04.55 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: ok, then its probably a good idea to just reinstall |
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| 12:05.21 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: i know *I* would just downgrade my libc6, but i cant walk you through the things i might have to do |
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| 12:06.16 | TestingTesting1 | valdyn: maybe i can search google to downgrade libc6 on debian how to's. I want to learn instead of reinstalling it. |
| 12:06.29 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: maybe |
| 12:06.45 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: it might involve booting from a live cd |
| 12:07.00 | valdyn | TestingTesting1: if youre lucky its just "apt-get install libc6=<version>" |
| 12:07.02 | ea_ | Hello, I am installing Debian Testing together with Windows 7. Windows has this 100MB partition. Do you know if it is safe to remove the partition and use it instead for /boot? |
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| 12:07.20 | qop | ugh, messing with libc is going to hurt your head |
| 12:07.23 | Bushmills | 100 MB is *very* little for windows |
| 12:07.28 | valdyn | ea_: not safe |
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| 12:07.37 | valdyn | ea_: thats the boot manager |
| 12:07.41 | Bushmills | it's even very little for linux |
| 12:08.08 | ea_ | ok so I leave it untouched... |
| 12:08.19 | ea_ | thanks!! |
| 12:08.37 | Bushmills | generally, it is very safe to use windows partitions. especially when it results in windows not working any longer |
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| 12:08.50 | Bushmills | only a non-working windows is a safe windows |
| 12:08.54 | qop | ea_: yes, you can install debian bootloader over mbr nd not have to touch it |
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| 12:09.24 | qop | Bushmills: :o |
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| 12:10.19 | qop | ea_: who knows whats thee but windows can messup pretty badly for things like that, so why bther for 100 mbs |
| 12:10.52 | qop | besides /boot would probably not fit in 100 mbs |
| 12:11.02 | ea_ | ok. i just thought 100mb is enough for initrd and kernet ;) |
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| 12:11.16 | ea_ | kernel* |
| 12:11.21 | Bushmills | ah, "for boot" ... 100 mb is a good size for that purpose |
| 12:11.29 | valdyn | ea_: it is, but you would overwrite windows equivalent to those things |
| 12:12.10 | qop | not necessarily |
| 12:12.42 | valdyn | qop: are you saying that the tiny partition that windows creates is for no useful purpose? |
| 12:13.01 | qop | and probably no, what if he has to add some additional drivers and on some update he gets two kernels? thats pushing, also 100mb MINUS- FS reserved blocks |
| 12:13.44 | Bushmills | ea_: size is good. 64 mb is ok already if you're not installing many kernels. |
| 12:13.47 | qop | I say, why risk a whole reinstall of windows for 100 mbs valdyn :) |
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| 12:14.05 | valdyn | right |
| 12:14.11 | Bushmills | general tendency of size recommendation is about 128 mb |
| 12:15.18 | Bushmills | you can guesstimate that you'll need about 15 mb per kernel, and about 5 mb for the grub support files |
| 12:15.54 | qop | plus init |
| 12:16.09 | Bushmills | initrd already counted in the 15 mb |
| 12:16.33 | ea_ | ok. left it alone ant put everything in/ |
| 12:17.25 | qop | Bushmills: actually in my system vmlinux has 16 and init has 4.3 |
| 12:17.29 | ea_ | now another headache will be to make debian boot from the fakeraid :D |
| 12:17.51 | qop | ;) |
| 12:18.01 | Arial456 | my laptop mic is not working.. I 've tried to configure alsamixer... but i dont know if my settings are proper.. help plz |
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| 12:19.00 | iderik | qop: awsome guide! well, ive manually booted and found the problem. /boot/grub/grub.cfg is missing. And I cant execute grub-update, it doesnt exist. I ve tried to google but without result |
| 12:19.30 | Bushmills | it's update-grub |
| 12:19.39 | qop | Arial456: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Alsa-sound-6.html |
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| 12:19.44 | diverdude | does there exist a debian desktop system or do i have to install e.g. gnome manually? |
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| 12:19.56 | Bushmills | define "manually" |
| 12:20.17 | diverdude | Bushmills, well download gnome, compile gnome, deploy gnome |
| 12:20.26 | Bushmills | ah. not needed |
| 12:20.36 | qop | iderik: you can cp the example one you found to /boot/grub |
| 12:20.49 | Bushmills | there are ready made packages for gnome, and you can select it during installation as "desktop task" |
| 12:20.50 | diverdude | Bushmills, what is then needed? Just do apt-get install gnome ? |
| 12:20.55 | Bushmills | or that |
| 12:20.59 | Arial456 | qop, ThankU.. I'll try that.. |
| 12:21.00 | diverdude | aha ok |
| 12:21.02 | Bushmills | !aptitude |
| 12:21.03 | dpkg | methinks aptitude is a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude"). Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> <aptitude docs> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude or http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
| 12:21.20 | diverdude | Bushmills, how difficult is debian compared to ubuntu? |
| 12:21.28 | qop | iderik: it also tells you how to make a custom that wont be overriden |
| 12:21.36 | Bushmills | how easy is ubuntu compared to debian? |
| 12:22.06 | diverdude | Bushmills, i dont know, thats why im asking |
| 12:22.15 | diverdude | i never tried debian |
| 12:22.26 | Bushmills | i also don't know, i'm a debian user, not an ubuntu user |
| 12:22.45 | diverdude | ok, you never tried ubuntu? |
| 12:22.55 | Bushmills | that's right |
| 12:23.06 | diverdude | for how long did you use debian? |
| 12:23.19 | qop | did? |
| 12:23.21 | Bushmills | with interruptions, since v1.1 |
| 12:23.39 | valdyn | !rex |
| 12:23.39 | dpkg | i heard rex is the codename for Debian 1.2, released mid-Dec 1996 |
| 12:23.43 | diverdude | and why did you choose to ude debian? |
| 12:23.43 | valdyn | !hamm |
| 12:23.43 | dpkg | Hamm (Debian GNU/Linux 2.0) was released for i386 and m68k (first multi-arch release) on July 24, 1998. It is no longer supported. Get old hamm ISOs here: http://mirror.debianforum.de/debian-iso-archive/hamm/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianHamm |
| 12:24.08 | valdyn | dammit, guess its bo then |
| 12:24.36 | Bushmills | diverdude: because i was intrigued by the reputation it had, of being for people wanting to see under the hood, when i was using slackware before |
| 12:24.55 | Bushmills | but then i was disappointed, initially, because debian had an install menu |
| 12:25.14 | Bushmills | or was it when coming from SLS, not sure |
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| 12:25.34 | Cyross | Hello |
| 12:26.02 | valdyn | diverdude: debian is clean, not easy. Sometimes that means being "hard" only because thats cleaner |
| 12:26.12 | Cyross | how i can use a .deb file? |
| 12:26.33 | diverdude | valdyn, what do you mean "clean"? |
| 12:26.35 | valdyn | Cyross: why must you use a .deb file ? |
| 12:26.48 | valdyn | diverdude: it means that policy is more important than convencience for users |
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| 12:26.58 | diverdude | ahh ok |
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| 12:27.04 | valdyn | diverdude: nvidia drivers are not in debian because thats policy, its non-free |
| 12:27.16 | diverdude | i guess windows, mac and ubuntu are very dirty then |
| 12:27.19 | valdyn | diverdude: that makes it "harder" to use those drivers |
| 12:27.32 | qop | Cyross: dpkg -i /path/tp/file.dpkg to install, dpkg --help for more info |
| 12:27.41 | valdyn | diverdude: windows and mac arent even distros |
| 12:27.51 | diverdude | valdyn, i see...so how do you use your nvidia graphic card then if there are no drivers? |
| 12:28.07 | valdyn | diverdude: but i believe macs put an app into their own directories, thats alot cleaner than what windows does |
| 12:28.20 | Cyross | perhaps was use a wrong word. i have a .deb file for a openttd server. i must unpack it that i have the content |
| 12:28.35 | valdyn | diverdude: they are there, just in non-free, just not as easy to install as on say ubuntu, but its not hard |
| 12:28.44 | Bushmills | Cyross: dpkg -i |
| 12:28.51 | Cyross | kk thx |
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| 12:29.36 | Bushmills | some non-official package have the tendency to break systems. careful |
| 12:30.11 | qop | somebody once told me, if you make something stupid proof, only stupids will use it, but its still wise to keep things simple. both distros have their focus and values, their packages and the way they are dealt with are a reflection of those values |
| 12:30.23 | qop | diverdude: ^ |
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| 12:30.51 | diverdude | aha' |
| 12:30.52 | qop | diverdude: and you can google: debian nvidia |
| 12:31.00 | Bushmills | openttd is available in debian. not sure whether that includes server, though |
| 12:31.15 | diverdude | so debian is for the person who wants to get his fingers a bit dirty |
| 12:31.31 | Bushmills | it helps if you don't mind that |
| 12:31.41 | qop | diverdude: I'd say is for the true perfectionist ;) |
| 12:31.44 | valdyn | diverdude: thats a little misleading |
| 12:31.49 | Bushmills | though a lot can be done by simply installing and using |
| 12:31.58 | dodobas | when i put laptop to suspend while on charger and turn it on without charger pluged in, system still thinks that charger is plugged in which renders laptop-tools ineffective, what to do |
| 12:32.18 | qop | diverdude: your statement is more for gentoo I think |
| 12:32.23 | diverdude | aha ok |
| 12:32.29 | valdyn | diverdude: because it seems to imply that you do things without understanding why or what they do |
| 12:33.04 | valdyn | diverdude: but you never do that in debian |
| 12:33.32 | diverdude | valdyn, i think most ubuntu users do not fully comprehend what they are doing..and that is certainly the case for other OS such as mac or windows |
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| 12:33.53 | Bushmills | generally, provided configs of debian packages are quite useable |
| 12:35.08 | indystorm | Hey guys I am a newbie to debian. I love the interface so far, but I am having a hard time finding support on how to install adobe flash in chromium.... Any ideas? I've switched suppositories to the non-free ones, and still nothing--- it won't install flashplayer-nonfree any ideas? |
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| 12:35.24 | valdyn | diverdude: systems that dont have package management arent comparable, those are just messy beyond repair ;) |
| 12:35.40 | diverdude | valdyn, hehe true |
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| 12:36.10 | diverdude | valdyn, package management is one of the best ideas in the world of OS |
| 12:36.12 | Bushmills | flashplugin-nonfree from nonfree repo should be usable for chromium too |
| 12:36.14 | qop | indystorm: did you read: http://wiki.debian.org/Flash ? |
| 12:36.27 | Bushmills | that' only an installer for flash plugin, not the plugin itself |
| 12:36.42 | qop | indystorm: also, about:plugins in chromium address |
| 12:36.43 | valdyn | actually that should be in contrib |
| 12:36.53 | Bushmills | true |
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| 12:37.28 | valdyn | diverdude: ok, I touched some things, but the difference isnt quite that easy to explain |
| 12:37.50 | indystorm | no, I didn't... so I can install a third party flash player? it doesnt have to come directly from adobe?? |
| 12:38.01 | diverdude | valdyn, yes it is much appreciated |
| 12:38.28 | Bushmills | !gnash |
| 12:38.28 | dpkg | Gnash is the GNU <Flash> movie player, developed from GPLFlash and part of the GNU project. The project aims to create a free software player and browser plugin. The browser plugins are packaged for Debian as mozilla-plugin-gnash and konqueror-plugin-gnash. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ #gnash on irc.freenode.net. |
| 12:38.45 | valdyn | indystorm: thats not a third party flash player, and even though you can use 3rd party flash players, the usability of those is not great |
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| 12:39.01 | qop | gnash is non interactive tho, that means no youtube |
| 12:39.14 | indystorm | OK, but it's not saying there is any support for Chromium.... only konquerer.... |
| 12:39.15 | qop | unless changed in the last months |
| 12:39.33 | Bushmills | i understood that gnash is nowadays useable with youtube |
| 12:39.47 | phogg | indystorm: any browser which supports netscape-style plugins will be able to use it |
| 12:39.50 | qop | indystorm: oh if you have flash already installed then just link the plugin where chromium can find it |
| 12:40.17 | qop | indystorm: so, about:plugins should tell if it can find it or not |
| 12:40.20 | indystorm | well let me tell you this- I goto youtube, and it says error at the top.... what does this mean? I have bad plugin? |
| 12:40.58 | iderik | qop: thanks so much for the help! it is running fine now. another thing, when i restarted the comp, the background on my desktop had been changed :O |
| 12:40.58 | indystorm | "an error occured, please try again later" for every video I click on |
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| 12:41.19 | indystorm | I have a brand new, fresh install of debian 6 on this machine... |
| 12:41.50 | iderik | qop: oh, i see you that there some kind of image slider ive turned on :P |
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| 12:43.18 | qop | iderik: well done, and yes you can select grub themes: http://urly.it/14pd |
| 12:43.46 | qop | indystorm: again, about:plugins intead of guessing |
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| 12:45.35 | Cyross | how i can unpack a .zip in debian? :) |
| 12:45.56 | jelly-home | unzip |
| 12:45.57 | qop | Cyross: man unzip |
| 12:46.13 | Cyross | kk thx i test it |
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| 12:46.26 | qop | Cyross: or with file-roller or ark... |
| 12:47.11 | qop | Anybody knows how to figure out the vga modes from ej 317 to 31a? |
| 12:47.26 | qop | cant recall >.< |
| 12:48.06 | jelly-home | qop: Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt |
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| 12:49.41 | qop | jelly-home: aha! there it was :) |
| 12:49.48 | lynx____ | Could someone please help me with a script... someone wrote a nice bash script, but it doesn't work |
| 12:49.58 | lynx____ | where do the enters go in the script |
| 12:50.11 | lynx____ | IT's at http://www.linux.com/news/software/multimedia/8258-how-to-convert-youtube-videos-to-divx-or-xvid |
| 12:50.11 | abrotman | #bash |
| 12:50.43 | lynx____ | it says: h: /bin/shif: bad interpreter: No such file or director |
| 12:50.46 | lynx____ | y |
| 12:50.47 | abrotman | lynx____: try #bash |
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| 12:51.09 | lynx____ | what does that do |
| 12:51.15 | lynx____ | it does the same thing |
| 12:51.22 | lynx____ | gives me a # prompt again |
| 12:51.34 | qop | lynx____: dont ask in #debian, ask in #bash instead |
| 12:51.35 | abrotman | its a channel for scripting help |
| 12:51.40 | llutz | lynx____: typo in line 1, it 2 lines: 1. #!/bin/sh 2. if [ -z "$1" ]; then |
| 12:52.16 | lynx____ | I did, now it says line 8: syntax error near unexpected token `do' and [1]+ Done xterm |
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| 12:52.19 | lynx____ | readme:/home/lynx# apt-get install cksfv^C |
| 12:52.22 | lynx____ | readme:/home/lynx# ./flv2avi.sh |
| 12:52.24 | lynx____ | ./flv2avi.sh: line 8: syntax error near unexpected token `do' |
| 12:52.25 | llutz | lynx____: dont ask in #debian, ask in #bash instead |
| 12:52.26 | lynx____ | ./flv2avi.sh: line 8: `do case "$1" in -divx) MENC_OPTS="-ovc lavc -la |
| 12:52.27 | abrotman | lynx____: try #bash |
| 12:52.27 | qop | smells a kick |
| 12:52.46 | lynx____ | I already tried #bash instead of #/bin/sh, it doesn't work at all. I also typed bash at the # prompt |
| 12:52.56 | lynx____ | just does nothing, makes another line with a prompt |
| 12:53.02 | llutz | lynx____: you should ask in channel "#bash" |
| 12:53.03 | lynx____ | oooh |
| 12:53.05 | abrotman | lynx____: which distro are you on? |
| 12:53.07 | lynx____ | you meant the channel sorry |
| 12:53.09 | lynx____ | I'm on debian |
| 12:53.15 | abrotman | omfg |
| 12:53.28 | aldermikov | lolin |
| 12:53.45 | qop | how did you installl debian and not know about # in console... |
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| 12:54.06 | lynx____ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.17 | abrotman | anyway, the question should go to #bash |
| 12:56.02 | jelly-home | lynx____: that script is horribly munged by the poster's content mgmt system and is basically unusable |
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| 12:57.23 | abrotman | judd: info youtube-dl |
| 12:57.25 | judd | No record of package 'youtube-dl' in squeeze/i386. |
| 12:57.29 | abrotman | boo |
| 12:58.27 | jelly-home | ,versions cclive |
| 12:58.28 | qop | there are various firefox addons that use ffmpeg for that |
| 12:58.29 | judd | Package cclive on i386 -- squeeze: 0.6.3-1; sid: 0.7.3.1-1.1; wheezy: 0.7.3.1-1.1 |
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| 13:01.01 | qop | anyway, many handhelds can play flv nowadays |
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| 13:01.37 | Arial456 | "$ amixer set Capture cap" This command fetched my mic working ! ThankU |
| 13:02.18 | qop | hands cookie to Arial456 |
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| 13:02.40 | lynx____ | what does \\ mean in bash |
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| 13:04.09 | lynx____ | Hrm |
| 13:04.12 | lynx____ | that's good, but I want my script to work |
| 13:04.15 | lynx____ | maybe I sho uld go: |
| 13:04.17 | lynx____ | .yaEh"w! OETK*O8 -.rWG ay$;mi3) N|wFYq`J ZciIO\y WoTuP`Ee |
| 13:04.22 | lynx____ | *fyV\# g+f&l"xL ),px\'"a m|CO;P- u`[mV-Z hy."b>;f N>.mSBt# |
| 13:04.27 | lynx____ | just kidding |
| 13:04.30 | lynx____ | do case "$1" in -divx) MENC_OPTS="-ovc lavc -lavcopts |
| 13:04.32 | lynx____ | \\ vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=$V_BITRATE:mbd=2:v4mv:autoaspect" ;; -xvid) |
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| 13:04.34 | lynx____ | for that, where do I push enter |
| 13:04.37 | lynx____ | Nevermind I got it working! |
| 13:04.40 | lynx____ | Where do I press enter here: ;; esac shiftdone |
| 13:04.42 | lynx____ | which are the separate commands? |
| 13:05.27 | abrotman | wtf |
| 13:05.49 | qop | told u |
| 13:05.58 | qop | I can smell those |
| 13:05.58 | lynx____ | HELP ME |
| 13:06.04 | lynx____ | run dun dun dun dunna nun nun nu n |
| 13:06.06 | lynx____ | HELP ME! |
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| 13:07.27 | abrotman | lynx____: a) stop pasting b) dont be annoying and demand help |
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| 13:07.57 | lynx___ | HELP ME! |
| 13:07.58 | qop | good thing about lynx is that he made abrotman go "wtf" haha |
| 13:08.04 | lynx___ | ) JsO_1 {>D%io'x xJ8zPQ/u IqjJCr* ,|ugO^&I =]/TASp^ f~VNKo1b |
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| 13:08.20 | lynx___ | \FaS@I v/<.iFy arfg@0G> }ZIL^.h *rRI IYO b*u|%<c* cs}pmp- |
| 13:08.26 | lynx___ | }h2|n<g{ w:QJDn z)Cq<^w %s$|>LD p42W,yb '<.?N<:v $R2|"*m |
| 13:08.31 | lynx___ | HELP ME! |
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| 13:08.34 | lynx___ | MN!0M$q# M0\Zk: ,,Zm}b=& <T]jB+Z *6L}\Dfs ~Y`v CuH 0dfe~^i |
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| 13:09.35 | qop | that it... I kinda hoped he had more weapons under the belt |
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| 13:09.51 | abrotman | qop: i say wtf all the time :) |
| 13:10.40 | jelly-home | awtfman |
| 13:10.52 | abrotman | heh |
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| 13:16.25 | cusco | he just wanted to know what \\ meant |
| 13:16.26 | cusco | lol |
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| 13:21.23 | trnzmeta | nite all |
| 13:21.24 | iderik | How do I extract a .deb file to /? I tried with GUI but sudo was needed. How do I solve this the safest way? I tried to extract it to downloads then "mv ~/Downloads/nvidia/* /" but then it asked my to overwrite and it made me unsecure |
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| 13:22.14 | iderik | the .deb file contains folder likes etc/, usr/ and so on. So i think it should be extracted to root ("/") |
| 13:22.36 | abrotman | why not use dpkg like you're supposed to? |
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| 13:22.54 | iderik | It is nvidia-kernel-common modules. I had to do this manually because apt-get couldnt find the package |
| 13:22.58 | iderik | abrotman: |
| 13:23.05 | abrotman | why not use dpkg like you're supposed to? |
| 13:23.28 | iderik | i didnt think of it, because the debian guide told me to use apt-get |
| 13:23.33 | prodigel | hi all. I have a routing problem I've never encountered before: While using an openvpn connection I need to manually add a custom route to access a class of IP's. A few minutes after doing that my route is deleted - I presume the routing rules are reset. Any idea who is deleting/resetting my routings? |
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| 13:26.01 | iderik | abrotman: the package doesnt exist there either. isnt it using the same repositories? how do i search in dpkg? i couldnt find it in manual |
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| 13:26.29 | iderik | dpkgd --search |
| 13:26.34 | Bushmills | dpkg is used to deal with individual packages, not for searching the repository |
| 13:26.34 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, Bushmills |
| 13:26.49 | Bushmills | dpkg, botsnack |
| 13:26.49 | dpkg | Bushmills: aw, gee |
| 13:26.56 | wols | iderik: I gave you the "search" factoid this morning IIRC |
| 13:27.02 | iderik | dpkg --search nvidia |
| 13:27.02 | dpkg | iderik: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 13:27.09 | iderik | dpkg help |
| 13:27.19 | wols | iderik: what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 13:27.41 | Bushmills | !apt-cache |
| 13:27.41 | dpkg | apt-cache is a tool with several commands that query the package cache in various ways. To see versions of a package or which repository it came from, use "apt-cache policy foo", "apt-cache show foo" or "apt-cache showpkg foo" (searches for reverse dependencies). "apt-cache search foo" helps to find which packages provide or are related to foo, by searching all package descriptions. See also <which repo>. |
| 13:27.50 | jelly-home | iderik: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:27.53 | jelly-home | iderik: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 13:28.13 | iderik | wols: hehe :) i am trying to install nvidia drivers, i am following the debian guide |
| 13:28.39 | wols | iderik: you don't. if you did, you had installed it via apt-get. you probably are missing non-free in your sources.list |
| 13:28.51 | iderik | i tried the search but i could only find the nvidia kernel source, do i need to compile it? ^^ would be cool to learn that |
| 13:29.11 | wols | iderik: which nvidia card/chip is it? |
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| 13:29.22 | iderik | wols: ah ok, ill check the rep list and see if there is any line commented there |
| 13:29.26 | iderik | let me see |
| 13:29.47 | wols | iderik: pastebin your sources.list |
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| 13:30.44 | iderik | nvidia geforce 9500 GT (rev 1a) |
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| 13:32.10 | iderik | wols: hmm, /etc/apt/sources.list is empty |
| 13:32.29 | iderik | but ive used the softwarecenter already, and i had no problem there |
| 13:32.42 | iderik | ive also used synaptic package manager without problem |
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| 13:33.01 | wols | iderik: please pastebin the full output of "apt-cache policy" |
| 13:33.58 | iderik | www.pastebin.com/nZcjBzFf |
| 13:34.15 | iderik | mm wait |
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| 13:35.14 | iderik | wols: http://pastebin.com/nZcJBzFf |
| 13:35.23 | totte | Hey, I get "drwx--S---" on ls -la output, what's that "S" mean? |
| 13:36.25 | valdyn | totte: permissions are explained in the faq |
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| 13:39.29 | wols | iderik: somewhere in /etc/apt or in a subfolder you have a line with "ftp.se.debian.org" add the words non-free contrib at the end of it. then apt-get update, then type /msg dpkg nvidia dkms in your irc client |
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| 13:42.56 | totte | Yeah I looked it up on the wiki but I didn't find an explanation of the capital s. Some mailing list explained it as "Set Group Id" which I don't understand. |
| 13:43.02 | abrotman | iderik: /msg dpkg nvidia ... the wiki has good instructions |
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| 13:45.44 | iderik | wols: wow, that bot gave me a sick commandline. cool stuff! |
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| 13:47.48 | ompaul | iderik: there was something wrong with the command line? |
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| 13:48.56 | iderik | not sure, i havnt tested it yet. but its just that i havnt seen such advanced one, i was chocked and impressed! |
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| 13:52.18 | iderik | should i change the "My GPU" in that line? |
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| 13:54.49 | iderik | wols: ^? |
| 13:55.11 | wols | iderik: no |
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| 13:56.39 | iderik | wols: "Couldnt find any package whose name "nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
| 13:57.37 | iderik | so my rep isnt fixed yet? |
| 13:57.40 | cusco | that is weir |
| 13:58.03 | cusco | perhaps not, can you paste your soources.list ? |
| 13:58.18 | iderik | yes, ive found it now |
| 13:58.24 | cusco | ok |
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| 13:59.30 | iderik | cusco: http://pastebin.com/w2bXhvDe |
| 13:59.53 | iderik | i guess line 4 is badly structured? |
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| 14:01.13 | cusco | seems right |
| 14:01.27 | cusco | iderik: did you run 'apt-get update' after changing sources.list ? |
| 14:01.51 | iderik | no :/ |
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| 14:02.54 | iderik | ok, now the packages are downloading just fine :) |
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| 14:03.05 | iderik | oh man, ive learned so much today! |
| 14:03.25 | aldermikov | congratulations |
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| 14:04.42 | cusco | iderik: just keep it up |
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| 14:05.16 | cusco | read docs, you will find interesting stuff about various types of open source software |
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| 14:05.29 | iderik | cusco: yes, i want to test fluxbox later today. i want tiled windows :) |
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| 14:05.51 | cusco | I thought ion2 did organize the windows for you |
| 14:06.37 | iderik | oh, is that debians default wm? i cant google right now while im downloading, my connectin is very slow |
| 14:06.47 | cusco | and /usr/share/doc/ has most stuff you will need to read regarding your debian conf |
| 14:07.15 | cusco | iderik: I don't think debian has a default wm. I know cd1 brings gnome, and cd2 brings kde |
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| 14:07.28 | iderik | during this day ive noted a few alias i must add to my zshrc :) |
| 14:07.35 | cusco | I also never install 'desktop package selection' so i always install gnome afterwards |
| 14:07.45 | iderik | so what is ion2? |
| 14:07.58 | iderik | a short desc before i google :) |
| 14:08.02 | aldermikov | if you want to learn to use a tiling wm i suggest starting with dwm |
| 14:08.09 | cusco | a window mnager that organizes windows for you |
| 14:08.17 | iderik | aldermikov: why? :) |
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| 14:08.47 | aldermikov | it's extremely small (2 packages w/ dmenu), does the job |
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| 14:09.04 | iderik | ok, i trust you, hehe |
| 14:09.33 | aldermikov | i started with dwm then moved to xmonad which is a fork of dwm |
| 14:09.46 | aldermikov | a lot of people like awesomewm too |
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| 14:13.30 | iderik | ok, i got a few errors. it starts at line 147: www.pastebin.org/MatvyCJL |
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| 14:14.13 | iderik | hmm, was jsut a warning but still there is one at line 156 |
| 14:14.20 | iderik | and i did make sudo |
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| 14:14.42 | iderik | maybe it was because that huge oneliner had a ";" which creates a "new" command? which also needs sudo? |
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| 14:15.37 | iderik | ill try to fix that once my swedish meatballs are ready :) |
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| 14:26.50 | nbprashanth | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.13 | ansgar | nbprashanth: dpkg-buildpackage -S will only build the source package. |
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| 14:29.46 | julius___ | hi |
| 14:29.50 | nbprashanth | ansgar: But it will check for the dependencies right? |
| 14:30.10 | ansgar | nbprashanth: -d will skip that. But then building the source package can fail. |
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| 14:31.17 | julius___ | a run of make KDEB_PKGVERSION=custom.1.0 deb-pkg resulted in: chown: changing ownership of `/home/dmkcrew/tmp/linux-kernel2/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/fwtmp/lib': Operation not permitted the directory /home/dmkcrew/tmp/linux-kernel2 is owned by my user and group, in that directory i did run apt-get source linux-2.6 and the make command....how is a permission error possible? |
| 14:31.26 | nbprashanth | ansgar: Well the problem is that i am using open build system to build my packages. I have the dsc file already, but a change to the original tarball is causing problems. I updated the sha checksums but i cant find what is the hash used under the files part of a dsc file. |
| 14:31.39 | nbprashanth | So i ll just need a dsc file and the build would be done online. |
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| 14:34.18 | ansgar | nbprashanth: It's a md5 hash. But I don't see why you cannot just build the source package? |
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| 14:34.30 | nbprashanth | ansgar: I am running SUSE. |
| 14:34.49 | nbprashanth | And i am forced to run it for a while. I cannot change. |
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| 14:35.37 | ansgar | nbprashanth: You could setup a chroot environment (-> debootstrap, maybe also schroot). Might also help with testing the package. |
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| 14:37.13 | nbprashanth | ansgar: That is possible. But i just have to fix a single package. And since the build happens online, i am a bit reluctant to go through all that right now. I just need to fix the dsc file and i am done. :) |
| 14:37.38 | nbprashanth | The only file conflict was the hash. I ll replace the hashes and test my builds. |
| 14:37.45 | nbprashanth | Thanks for your help. |
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| 14:39.02 | iderik | cusco: any idea how to check if my driver is working properly? ive tried to launch a gave but it said "Graphicdriver error" |
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| 14:43.02 | cusco | iderik: what did you try to launch? Have you checked the factoid regarding nvidia on dpkg bot? or wiki.debian.org ? |
| 14:44.10 | babilen | !tell iderik -about nvidia dkms |
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| 14:44.35 | babilen | iderik: Take a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if it complains about something and which driver is used. |
| 14:44.58 | iderik | cusco: i launched a java game which worked before i launched that oneliner |
| 14:44.59 | iderik | ok |
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| 14:45.26 | cusco | iderik: are you using nvidia proprietary driver now? |
| 14:45.42 | iderik | cusco: how do I see that? |
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| 14:46.14 | iderik | from log: "No inpit/driver identifier specified" |
| 14:46.16 | cusco | well... grep nvidia /var/log/Xorg.0.log I guess |
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| 14:47.07 | iderik | cusco: "load module: "nvidia" |
| 14:47.56 | iderik | on ubuntu, when i opened "Monitor" in the menu, it opened a nvidia program. but here it doesnt |
| 14:48.37 | wols | cusco: nvidia driver is all uppercase spelled in Xorg.0.log |
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| 14:49.03 | wols | iderik: what exactly errors and what is the error? |
| 14:49.05 | cusco | oops sorry |
| 14:49.09 | iderik | wols: ok found some more, let me read |
| 14:49.37 | iderik | wols: there were actually no error when launching the game, but i saw the window title was named: "Graphicdriver error" |
| 14:49.53 | iderik | it didnt launch properly |
| 14:50.05 | iderik | it break at the game's splashscreen |
| 14:50.56 | wols | iderik: answer my question |
| 14:51.42 | iderik | i cant find any noticeable in the log when grep "NVIDIA". only: "No modes were requested; the deafult mode "nvidia-auto-select" |
| 14:52.04 | iderik | wols: let me see game's logfile |
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| 14:53.07 | wols | iderik: games don't have logfiles. please pastebin all your files under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 14:53.40 | babilen | iderik: Could you paste the output of "glxinfo" and you /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net please? Also include the output of "dpkg -l '*nvidia*'" .. |
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| 14:54.36 | iderik | roger! |
| 14:55.11 | babilen | iderik: In short: Paste all the things! |
| 14:55.26 | iderik | yes ^^ |
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| 15:01.56 | iderik | wols babilen www.paste.debian.net/126092 |
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| 15:03.40 | wols | iderik: your nvidia driver is working fine. if you want to change some settings, you could install the package nvidia-esttings |
| 15:03.48 | iderik | added to ToDo list: make a pastebin uploader script |
| 15:03.59 | wols | !tell iderik about pastebinit |
| 15:04.06 | iderik | wols: great to hear! |
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| 15:06.12 | BrixSat | hello im trying to install a package from a deb file(maurin) and i get these message "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgail-3-0 (>= 3.0.0)" what can i do? |
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| 15:08.16 | iderik | wols: im reading the logs of the game, it says "Failed to create display. Could not choose GLX13 config. Display with unspecified pixelformat. Driver does not support OpenGL." Since the game worked with vesa/nsvous~ and not now, something must have changed. I remember from the time when i installed archlinux and configed xorg, there was problem with pixelformat(?), like 800x600@74Hz. Could it be something similar now? |
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| 15:08.27 | DelphiWorld | hello guys |
| 15:08.41 | DelphiWorld | please could someone give me the latest squeeze repo ? |
| 15:09.00 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: theres no latest squeeze repo, they're all the same |
| 15:09.06 | wols | !tell DelphiWorld about squeeze sources.list |
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| 15:09.19 | iderik | wols: is this what the settings could do, that you were talking about? |
| 15:09.19 | DelphiWorld | thank woll a lot |
| 15:09.43 | S4nD3r | Hybrid video card works on Debian? (Intel Sandy bridge + Nvidia GT 540M) |
| 15:10.10 | S4nD3r | I'm looking for a distro who really works with them |
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| 15:10.24 | S4nD3r | be free and easy to install :) |
| 15:10.29 | iderik | !dpkg --search nvidia-settings |
| 15:10.30 | wols | S4nD3r: no |
| 15:10.39 | iderik | dpkg --search nvidia-settings |
| 15:10.39 | dpkg | iderik: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 15:10.52 | DelphiWorld | :P |
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| 15:11.02 | wols | iderik: as you've been told time and again: dpkg is NOT for searching |
| 15:11.15 | iderik | ok :P |
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| 15:12.12 | S4nD3r | I got to make nvidia works (a friend did that) |
| 15:12.19 | S4nD3r | but intel dont works |
| 15:12.56 | babilen | BrixSat: That package (libgail-3-0) is not in squeeze -- you *might* be able to backport it, but it very much looks as if you that package you have there is not meant to be used on Squeeze or even Debian. |
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| 15:13.17 | wols | S4nD3r: what videocard is selected in BIOS? |
| 15:13.41 | wols | S4nD3r: and what debian do you run? |
| 15:13.45 | babilen | S4nD3r: You need a newer version of xserver-xorg-video-intel which is not squeeze, but wheezy and sid. That essentially means that you would have to run wheezy/sid |
| 15:14.10 | S4nD3r | I don't have how to select video card in BIOS |
| 15:14.22 | S4nD3r | I have a Dell XPS LX502x |
| 15:14.24 | wols | S4nD3r: and you cannot switch between intel and nvidia if you use the proprietary drievrs |
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| 15:14.36 | wols | S4nD3r: you don't have to but you can |
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| 15:15.07 | dfc | how do i force a package to downgrade? |
| 15:15.14 | S4nD3r | HOw I can wols ? |
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| 15:15.26 | valdyn | dfc: apt-get install package=version |
| 15:15.37 | dfc | valdyn: it is not in apt's cache anymore |
| 15:15.48 | dfc | i downloaded the deb files that i need from a mirror |
| 15:15.54 | valdyn | dfc: dpkg -i file.deb |
| 15:16.10 | jhutchins_lt | !tell dfc about partial downgrade |
| 15:16.13 | valdyn | dfc: that works if dependencies are satisfied |
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| 15:17.13 | babilen | dfc: Note, however, that downgrades are not supported. Which package is it and which version of Debian do you run? |
| 15:17.20 | dfc | valdyn: thanks. i did not even bother trying that before asking. i just assumed it would not install an older version without some force flags |
| 15:17.36 | dfc | unstable and it is the fglrx packages |
| 15:17.39 | dfc | hides |
| 15:17.50 | babilen | unhides dfc |
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| 15:17.55 | dfc | the fglrx drivers in 11.7 break a lot of gpu computation stuff |
| 15:18.39 | babilen | dfc: No problem, if there is a grave/serious bugs with the current version you should report them. Good luck! (ah, btw, we have a #debian-next channel over at irc.oftc.net for wheezy/sid support) |
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| 15:19.28 | dfc | it is one of these "msterious bugs" a lot of people are experiencing it but there is not clear evidence cause of the problem |
| 15:19.31 | Cain | mkpasswd seems to not recognize sha1 method, any other way to generate sha1 hashes via CLI ? |
| 15:19.33 | dfc | thanks for your help |
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| 15:32.52 | BrixSat | babilen: thks |
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| 15:34.31 | Pix_Me | hi, is this script correct? |
| 15:34.32 | iderik | wols: ive tried to play minecraft now, just to test. it aint smooth as it was in ubuntu. do you think ive got all drivers needed? i havnt installed any motherboard, network, or similar drivers, is that needed? |
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| 15:34.40 | Pix_Me | http://pastebin.com/YV3Ps3Cx |
| 15:35.03 | Pix_Me | i'm trying to connect to a server with ppk from a debian server but it don't works |
| 15:35.10 | Pix_Me | could you help me |
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| 15:38.06 | Kobaz | is there something special I need to do to turn on DMA for new drives... i just popped in two 1.5tb sata drives and they aren't doing dma |
| 15:38.15 | Kobaz | i'm getting like 450kb/sec to these fancy new drives |
| 15:38.28 | S4nD3r_ | Please, what is wrong that my intel card do not works? http://pastebin.com/7b3ibBsd |
| 15:38.49 | Kobaz | and i get a ata1.00: failed command: WRITE DMA on bootup |
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| 15:40.37 | wols | Kobaz: dmesg |grep ata and dmesg| grep sdX where sdX is your new drive |
| 15:40.56 | wols | Pix_Me: if you want to use .ppk I suggest you use putty |
| 15:41.03 | valdyn | Kobaz: you cant switch on dma for sata |
| 15:41.16 | zapadlo | !good |
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| 15:41.49 | S4nD3r_ | It's upgraded in http://pastebin.com/kBHHkkxx |
| 15:42.17 | wols | S4nD3r_: babilen told you what the matter is and you ignoreed him |
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| 15:42.30 | wols | S4nD3r_: not to mention you run ubuntu |
| 15:42.41 | S4nD3r_ | I didn't see his tips |
| 15:42.50 | wols | S4nD3r_: go to #ubuntu. we don't support it here |
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| 15:43.55 | babilen | S4nD3r_: You are already getting help in #ubuntu -- Please do not ask in here for help with Ubuntu, because we do not support it. |
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| 15:44.22 | Kobaz | wols: you want the whole thing? |
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| 15:44.32 | S4nD3r_ | Im looking for help in .deb package |
| 15:44.34 | S4nD3r_ | just it |
| 15:44.36 | wols | Kobaz: no I want a pony |
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| 15:44.46 | S4nD3r_ | nobody in ubuntu answered |
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| 15:44.49 | Kobaz | i think i saw some ponies on craigslist |
| 15:45.14 | boudiccas | S4nD3r_; then wait and try again, you'll get no support here |
| 15:45.21 | wols | !tell S4nD3r_ about they don't know |
| 15:45.22 | Kobaz | wols: http://pastebin.com/vN1543Bx |
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| 15:46.13 | S4nD3r_ | and there are people who says that free software is one helping another one |
| 15:46.15 | Kobaz | i'm going to replace the sata cable, since it's only one drive |
| 15:46.32 | S4nD3r_ | when you have a problem, look for help in forum, irc |
| 15:46.33 | boudiccas | S4nD3r_; oh do stop whining |
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| 15:46.37 | wols | Kobaz: good choice |
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| 15:46.46 | Kobaz | the other drive doesn't have that problem |
| 15:46.48 | S4nD3r_ | Just conversation |
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| 15:46.52 | S4nD3r_ | nothing this is true |
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| 15:47.18 | wols | S4nD3r_: stop it. this is not a channel for conversation but for technical debian support only. you do not run debian, you cannot get support here since we don't know. please stop |
| 15:47.24 | babilen | S4nD3r_: This is a Debian support channel, please take chats to #defocus or #debian-offtopic and support questions to #ubuntu. Thank you. |
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| 15:48.11 | S4nD3r_ | Ok. Let me see if its technical support |
| 15:48.15 | TecLab | S4nD3r_ u got to understand that ubuntu being derived from debian, is not debian |
| 15:48.29 | babilen | Lets drop this discussion. |
| 15:48.29 | S4nD3r_ | Which is the repository to upgrade xserver-xorg-video-intel versin ? |
| 15:48.33 | S4nD3r_ | version** |
| 15:48.42 | wols | S4nD3r_: you cannot ask support questions here for ubuntu, if you do, ops will remove you |
| 15:48.46 | boudiccas | S4nD3r_; how would we know, we dont run ubuntu |
| 15:49.00 | S4nD3r_ | It's no a question about ubuntu |
| 15:49.07 | S4nD3r_ | it's about repository of a video card |
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| 15:49.27 | TecLab | S4nD3r_ there is no repository of a video card in debian |
| 15:49.35 | Pix_Me | wols: thank you, but i can't use putty it's on my debian server i need to transfer a file ton another server |
| 15:49.49 | babilen | S4nD3r_: You have been silenced for 10 minutes. Please take Ubuntu support questions to #ubuntu or install Debian and ask in here. We can and will not support Debian derivatives in here. Thank you. |
| 15:49.50 | wols | ,versions putty |
| 15:49.53 | judd | Package putty on i386 -- lenny: 0.60-3; squeeze: 0.60+2010-02-20-1; sid: 0.61-1; wheezy: 0.61-1 |
| 15:49.54 | Cain | when i log to debian, /etc/motd is executed, where can i find which other files are executed on a bash terminal ? (like .profile .bashrc...) can i include a bash script to be ran in addition to /etc/motd ? |
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| 15:50.12 | Pix_Me | wols: and they give me a ppk file, i tried with winscp and putty it works but when i try on my debian, failed |
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| 15:50.16 | wols | Pix_Me: and you need to use putty if you insist on ppk files. there are lots of howtos how to use key based out with plain sftp and ssh |
| 15:50.19 | Kobaz | wols: that fixed it |
| 15:50.45 | wols | Cain: /etc/motd is not executed |
| 15:50.47 | Kobaz | wols: i saw a thread on an ubuntu bug report with the same error, someone replaced their cables and fixed it |
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| 15:51.51 | Cain | wols : yes, i mean 'viewed' or content-listed ^^' |
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| 15:52.17 | Pix_Me | wols: is it possible to install putty on a debian server? |
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| 15:52.36 | wols | Pix_Me: yes. it's in the repos |
| 15:52.52 | Pix_Me | wols: oh cool |
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| 15:53.37 | jmarsden | Pix_Me: But what does putty give you regarding file xfer to another server that scp doesn't do? |
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| 15:54.00 | wols | jmarsden: support for the .ppk file format? |
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| 15:54.57 | chipnt | how can i allow access to a specific port only from a specific ip ? |
| 15:55.06 | chipnt | with iptables? |
| 15:55.10 | Pix_Me | jmarsden: i try this but it don't works, so i don't know ho to do the xfer |
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| 15:55.28 | Pix_Me | jmarsden : http://pastebin.com/YV3Ps3Cx |
| 15:55.30 | wols | chipnt: yes |
| 15:55.31 | jmarsden | Pix_Me: scp somefile you@someothermachine.example.com: |
| 15:55.47 | chipnt | wols what params shall i give |
| 15:55.52 | Pix_Me | jmarsden : ok i try |
| 15:55.53 | chipnt | im a bit noob with iptables as u see |
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| 15:57.37 | wols | chipnt: have you read a single iptables howto? |
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| 15:59.29 | chipnt | im under some time limits brb |
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| 15:59.39 | chipnt | hope google helps |
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| 16:02.42 | iderik | I recently installed debian and it is running noticable slower than ubuntu. Is there something to install that I might have forgotten? |
| 16:03.09 | iderik | It could be the graphics that are slow, im not sure |
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| 16:03.53 | iderik | And Nvidia is installed |
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| 16:04.06 | DasEi | iderik: which g-card do you use ? and install htop, conky to see your system-load and what might slow it down |
| 16:04.35 | nkuttler | iderik: what does "nvidia is installed" mean? |
| 16:04.44 | iderik | DasEi: GeForce 9500 GT |
| 16:04.51 | nkuttler | !tell iderik about nvidia |
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| 16:05.03 | iderik | nkuttler: i installed the nvidia drivers |
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| 16:06.22 | Bushmills | does your system also *use* the nvidia drivres? |
| 16:06.24 | Bushmills | drivers |
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| 16:06.59 | iderik | yes, two users from this channel did check the logs and some command outputs |
| 16:07.31 | Bushmills | name a program which runs slower |
| 16:07.34 | iderik | but there was a java game that worked before i installed nvidiadrivers that doesnt work now. It says OpenGL is not s upported |
| 16:07.39 | syn4pse- | iderik use htop or atop or some other task manager to see what apps are using a lot of resources |
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| 16:07.48 | iderik | Bushmills: minecraft game and the webbroswer |
| 16:07.49 | DasEi | iderik: closed source, version 280.13 ? or the open source one |
| 16:08.16 | babilen | Bushmills, DasEi: http://paste.debian.net/126092 is the paste iderik is referring to |
| 16:08.19 | iderik | DasEi: the nvidiadriver? the non-free one |
| 16:08.27 | iderik | or no |
| 16:08.29 | iderik | the free one :O |
| 16:08.35 | iderik | which should be opensource, ya? |
| 16:08.43 | DasEi | iderik: yes |
| 16:08.46 | Bushmills | nouveau? |
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| 16:09.06 | Pix_Me | jmarsden : it seems to be fine with scp |
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| 16:09.23 | iderik | Bushmills: nouveau worked fine with the game that now crashes and saying OpenGL isnt support by the driver (now nvidia) |
| 16:09.27 | DasEi | iderik: the support is quite well, though for full 3d support you need nv's original which work well |
| 16:09.30 | Pix_Me | jmarsden: do you know how to use the ppk file in the command |
| 16:10.35 | iderik | the webbrowser has freezed upon me several times already |
| 16:10.39 | Bushmills | nvidia driver (not nv) should be faster than nouveau for opengl |
| 16:10.49 | iderik | i was just browsing my email inbox |
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| 16:11.26 | iderik | i cant see anything critical in htop |
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| 16:13.00 | iderik | here is my system info: www.pastebin.org/vJJSBuPg |
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| 16:13.23 | iderik | ops should be .com |
| 16:13.43 | jmarsden | Pix_Me: No, I don't generally use Putty :) I think there is a Putty utility that converts putty-specific key files into the standard form that openssh uses, but I forget the details, you can good for it. "putty ppk to openssh" shows several likely tutorials to read. |
| 16:13.56 | jmarsden | s/good for it/google for it/ |
| 16:14.35 | DasEi | iderik: I looked at the paste from babil. , that looks fine as the 195.XX..-driver installed, can you run nvidia-settings and it displays driver in use ? |
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| 16:15.45 | boudiccas | S4nD3r; |
| 16:15.53 | S4nD3r | hi |
| 16:16.04 | S4nD3r | My system crased |
| 16:16.07 | S4nD3r | crashed |
| 16:16.19 | boudiccas | S4nD3r; thats ubuntu for you |
| 16:16.26 | iderik | DasEi: i have nvidia-settings installed and it runs fine. i cant see any "nvidia" inside the settingwindow, but since it runs i guess it should be working as supposed to? |
| 16:16.32 | ea_ | right.so after a bit of headache, a coffee break,lunch and a nap, i am finally running a Debian/wheezy with Linux 3.0 (!!) on a OCZ Revodrive PCIe SSD in a dual-boot environment with Windows 7 Pro. |
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| 16:16.44 | babilen | S4nD3r: Haven't we discussed this already? Ask in #ubuntu! |
| 16:16.56 | S4nD3r | Im not here for discussing |
| 16:17.00 | iderik | DasEi: in OpenGL tab: should Sync to VBlank be enabled? its off now |
| 16:17.03 | S4nD3r | just to see all you are talking about |
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| 16:17.12 | babilen | S4nD3r: ok |
| 16:17.15 | S4nD3r | I like to know about technical issues |
| 16:17.20 | boudiccas | S4nD3r; and you're not here for support as we cant support you |
| 16:17.22 | DasEi | iderik: otherwise it would tell something like driver installed but not enabled or such |
| 16:17.48 | S4nD3r | Ok boudiccas |
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| 16:18.31 | DasEi | iderik: on the right side you see 195... installed |
| 16:18.45 | iderik | DasEi: Another thing, when i open "Monitor" from the system menu, I get the Monitor Preferences and it says "Monitor: Unknown" and colored red |
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| 16:19.09 | iderik | DasEi: nothing happens if i press "Detect monitors" |
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| 16:19.27 | DasEi | iderik: what a monitor is it ? |
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| 16:20.01 | iderik | DasEi: the nvidia setting can tell: ViewSonic VX910 |
| 16:20.11 | iderik | but the default monitor setting cant :O |
| 16:20.35 | DasEi | iderik: give me a minute,maybe I can look it up |
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| 16:20.53 | iderik | another hint, the game that now crashes when I installed nvidia, says that it cant create a display because there is no defined PixelFormat (like 800x600@75Hz) |
| 16:21.01 | iderik | DasEi ^ |
| 16:21.20 | iderik | it does also say that OpenGL is not supported' |
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| 16:23.26 | DasEi | iderik: nvidia-settings find it ? then press detect and save to x-configuration file, so you'll get a valid monitor-section, restart x |
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| 16:25.21 | iderik | DasEi: it makes me browse to the config file, are you talking about /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf? |
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| 16:26.23 | DasEi | iderik: /etc/X11/xorg.conf , the settings-box can write to there |
| 16:26.23 | iderik | DasEi: this sounds good actually, i remember from an archlinux install when configuring xorg, i needed to insert display settings manually, but now i cant find anywhere that display info, i so guess it is missing |
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| 16:26.57 | iderik | DasEi: ok! i got no xorg.conf there! |
| 16:27.05 | iderik | aha! :) |
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| 16:27.21 | DasEi | iderik: don't mind that's default, but it still can be used |
| 16:28.02 | iderik | so i have to create it first, it says |
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| 16:28.26 | DasEi | iderik: as root: touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 16:29.14 | iderik | DasEi: oh, that command was new to me. i use to create in /home then mv it :) hehe |
| 16:30.01 | goodman | debian |
| 16:30.29 | iderik | DasEi: hmm, "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! |
| 16:30.43 | iderik | no reason given |
| 16:31.17 | DasEi | iderik: where ? in touch or in settings-write ? |
| 16:31.20 | iderik | it couldnt save to my /home either, so there is no permission reason |
| 16:31.25 | iderik | settings-write |
| 16:31.32 | babilen | DasEi: nvidia is configured and running |
| 16:31.33 | iderik | when saving the display |
| 16:31.34 | DasEi | iderik: called as root ? |
| 16:32.01 | iderik | oh, i opened the settings from the system menu |
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| 16:32.29 | iderik | DasEi: same there |
| 16:32.42 | iderik | i tried to /home also, so there is no permission thing imo |
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| 16:33.19 | iderik | babilen: seems like my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is missing, it should contain info about my display |
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| 16:33.47 | iderik | that is also why the game complains about not being able to get create a display because pixelformat isnt defined |
| 16:33.53 | wols | iderik: 800x600@75Hz is not a pixelformat |
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| 16:35.00 | babilen | iderik: Did you install/configure nvidia dkms as recommended in the factoid? In that case you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf and an <empty xorg.conf> |
| 16:35.06 | goodman | debian good |
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| 16:35.16 | babilen | goodman: yes, debian good. |
| 16:35.18 | iderik | wols: the game says: "Creating display with unspecified pixelformat, choosable=[800 x 600 x 24 @ 64 HZ], [blabla], [blabla] and so on with more examples of "pixelformat" :P |
| 16:35.33 | iderik | wols: it sounds weird in my ears too, but that what it says |
| 16:36.15 | DasEi | iderik: sorry for delay, I just found that moni, pastebin in a second |
| 16:36.17 | iderik | babilen: i have a /xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf yes, but no xorg.conf, not even empty one |
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| 16:36.45 | iderik | babilen: but shouldnt that 20-nvidia.conf contain info about the display? |
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| 16:38.27 | DasEi | iderik : http://pastebin.com/ZS5BGXi7 |
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| 16:39.12 | iderik | DasEi: wow, nice! |
| 16:39.15 | babilen | iderik: No, that would be the Monitor device section -- I have no idea why that game is not working, but FWICT the rest is working fine. It might not like your resolution. |
| 16:39.35 | DasEi | iderik: so run nvidia-xconfig and put that for monitor if trouble, for that (xconfig) log out |
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| 16:39.59 | babilen | iderik: Or create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-monitor.conf file and put that in there |
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| 16:40.49 | iderik | babilen: so nvidia can find that file itself? or do I need to run any command to update? |
| 16:40.58 | iderik | oh, a restart might update it |
| 16:41.04 | iderik | but still, will nvidia find that file? |
| 16:41.14 | DasEi | iderik: restart gdm3. yes |
| 16:42.00 | babilen | iderik: Please read the <empty xorg.conf> and <xorg.conf.d> factoid (/msg dpkg xorg.conf.d) |
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| 16:42.30 | mhall | I am experiencing a couple real unusual behaviors on my Sandy Bridge box. 1) Many of the boot screens of GRUB come up only on the VGA port and not the DVI port. 2) I am having the boot process of the new system get stuck in the initramfs. It seems like the system is not all that happy being booted off of GPT and Intel dmraid. I tried to see if GPT / EFI were covered in either the stable or development install guide but did not see anything in them. Any adv |
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| 16:43.18 | iderik | babilen: i have no xorg.conf and there is nothing to read in xorg.conf.d but the 20-nvidia.conf |
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| 16:45.15 | babilen | !tell iderik -about empty xorg.conf |
| 16:45.19 | babilen | !tell iderik -about xorg.conf.d |
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| 16:46.22 | SoloGaijin | installing debian on a old dell 400mhz 256mb ram laptop, 10GB HDD, does it make much difference if I separate out the partitions or is it more preference for recovery features? |
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| 16:47.23 | jelly-home | SoloGaijin: don't bother separating |
| 16:47.29 | SoloGaijin | not even home? |
| 16:47.31 | pipeline | SoloGaijin: with only 10G to work with, you will want the filesystems as combined as possible |
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| 16:47.40 | SoloGaijin | right on, thanks |
| 16:47.40 | jelly-home | SoloGaijin: you only have 10G around |
| 16:48.05 | SoloGaijin | im installing this more to learn about the OS than anything else |
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| 16:48.09 | DasEi | SoloGaijin: and you might want a light installation, aca minimal and another WM |
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| 16:48.29 | SoloGaijin | I am running net installer currently |
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| 16:49.00 | SoloGaijin | had several recommendation from damnsmalllinux, tinycore, and finally debian so I grabbed debian |
| 16:49.09 | DasEi | SoloGaijin: icewm or such, maybe lxde, least a PIII ? |
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| 16:49.23 | SoloGaijin | I believe its a PII but it might be a pIII |
| 16:49.46 | DasEi | SoloGaijin: humm, headless.. |
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| 16:50.24 | SoloGaijin | so should I back out of the install and grab a different ISO to load? |
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| 16:51.02 | babilen | SoloGaijin: netinstall is fine, just make sure that you don't install the desktop task |
| 16:51.04 | SoloGaijin | I was told debian can run well even with under 100MB ram |
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| 16:51.08 | SoloGaijin | okay |
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| 16:51.22 | wols | it can, but not with 100MB RAM and gnome trying to load |
| 16:51.23 | jelly-home | SoloGaijin: sure, Debian can... Xorg might not |
| 16:51.28 | DasEi | SoloGaijin: it might work, but could be frustating slow, have you got a live cd to try and get some more specs ? |
| 16:51.38 | babilen | SoloGaijin: if you want X install it along with a memory friendly window manager such as fluxbox |
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| 16:51.54 | SoloGaijin | not really - I tried loading lubuntu but had a lot of problems |
| 16:51.58 | SoloGaijin | as far as live CD |
| 16:52.05 | babilen | SoloGaijin: and yes, it might be quite slow -- but see yourself. |
| 16:52.24 | SoloGaijin | its a PII |
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| 16:52.31 | SoloGaijin | just checked dells website |
| 16:52.45 | DasEi | SoloGaijin: if any live booted a cat /proc/cpuinfo would tell PII/III |
| 16:52.58 | DasEi | ah |
| 16:53.20 | DasEi | SoloGaijin: try DSL, damn small linux on it |
| 16:53.46 | nejucomo | I'm having trouble with broadcom wifi. lspci calls it bcm4313, but dmesg|grep -i broadcom says BCM4727... |
| 16:53.48 | SoloGaijin | will do.. do I need to join a different channel for support or is it debian based? |
| 16:53.54 | JoeK | debian minimal can run on 64mb |
| 16:53.55 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, forget lubuntu - it's dead... in that case go for a ubunut minimal install and install LXDE later on... but i'd recommend you debian... |
| 16:53.59 | DasEi | SoloGaijin: ##linux |
| 16:54.08 | nejucomo | When I load brcm80211 and run iwconfig I see eth1 which is unassociated. |
| 16:54.14 | SoloGaijin | cool - you guys have been real helpful |
| 16:54.45 | DasEi | SoloGaijin: get a better box so won't get frustrated, see you back then .. |
| 16:54.51 | nejucomo | If I run "iwlist eth1 scan" it complains with "Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument" |
| 16:55.09 | SoloGaijin | ha, ive got VMware running on a server but want to see what I can get out of this old laptop just for kicks |
| 16:55.28 | nejucomo | And if I run "iwconfig eth1 essid $NAME" then "iwconfig" it does not show any association. $NAME is an unencrypted network ap name. |
| 16:55.40 | nejucomo | Also syslog says nothing when I do this. |
| 16:55.52 | nejucomo | Does anyone have any ideas? Is this the proper channel for these questions? |
| 16:56.16 | DasEi | SoloGaijin: as said, headless will be no problem, but with gui it'll be sticky on a PII |
| 16:56.28 | SoloGaijin | ill go headless and just play around then |
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| 16:56.52 | mhall | that laptop sounds like a candidate for DOS ;-) |
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| 16:56.57 | SoloGaijin | ha |
| 16:57.04 | DasEi | win 98 se |
| 16:57.19 | mhall | DasEi: i was figuring using something without a tcp/ip stack |
| 16:57.26 | mhall | DasEi: so it doesn't get owned the second you plug it in |
| 16:57.30 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, after all, the system itself will not be the main resource consumer... if you install gentoo, debian, fedora, red hat... if you use command line they will be all of the same (felt) speed in daily use... it is more important to find a good GUI for your needs. gnome and kde will be too fat. even xfce amybe. lxde is a good ide.. if you want more spped then go for a window manager like openbox, fluxbox, icewm ar what else is ther. a |
| 16:57.31 | Benkinooby | lso the choice of appolications will make a bigger impact on performance than the choice of distribution. firefox might be slow... but a small, fast web browser like chromium, midori or maybe opera will be a better choice |
| 16:57.46 | abrotman | a PII is more than enough to run debian .. |
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| 16:58.00 | mhall | abrotman: it's more the low amount of RAM than the CPU ;) |
| 16:58.05 | abrotman | right |
| 16:58.13 | abrotman | chromium, small? hehh |
| 16:58.15 | mhall | abrotman: and i was being a bite of a wiseass |
| 16:58.22 | mhall | bit* |
| 16:58.31 | SoloGaijin | thanks Benkinooby ill keep that in mind |
| 16:58.43 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, i had to learn that the hard way :P |
| 16:58.44 | kingsley | How would you diagnose why booting leaves the root file system "read only"? |
| 16:58.46 | mhall | it's not often that you run across a piece of HW these days that's a good candidate for DOS |
| 16:59.02 | mhall | kingsley: did you try shift-pgup yet |
| 16:59.03 | wols | kingsley: didn't I tell you before? |
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| 16:59.40 | kingsley | Hold on.... I'll be back... |
| 17:00.09 | mhall | isn't that the same guy who used to count the profanities in #D? |
| 17:00.36 | mhall | I recall that, I used it as an excuse to bring myself to the top of the profanity users' list. |
| 17:00.45 | jelly-home | man, fuck that |
| 17:01.01 | wols | nejucomo: you sure your wlan is named eth1? |
| 17:01.24 | wols | nejucomo: and is the firmware for your chip loaded? and which driver are you using? |
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| 17:02.46 | cgar | Is there a way to change the framebuffer resolution (not the grub starting screen)? Debian is currently running cli-only with no X as a virtualbox guest. |
| 17:02.50 | mhall | jelly-home: indeed. :) |
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| 17:03.11 | mhall | cgar: did you try the Documentation dir of the kernel source |
| 17:03.23 | wols | cgar: fbset? |
| 17:03.28 | mhall | cgar: i believe that talks about the boot options you can pass in the grub loader to configure it |
| 17:03.35 | mhall | cgar: so it will be right from boot |
| 17:03.43 | mhall | cgar: then there's also fbset type stuff |
| 17:03.56 | mhall | cgar: although my recommendation would be just sshing to it |
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| 17:04.06 | nejucomo | wols: I'm using brcm80211. I first followed these instructions: http://wiki.debian.org/wl |
| 17:04.25 | nejucomo | -but when that did not work, I tried these instructions: http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211#Squeeze |
| 17:04.37 | nejucomo | (squeeze instructions in both cases.) |
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| 17:05.02 | mhall | has reinstalled about 3 times now trying to figure out how to get this sandy bridge box to boot right with GPT... uggh |
| 17:05.21 | mhall | !lart gpt and efi |
| 17:05.21 | dpkg | keeps mailing gpt and efi free America Online CDs until he drowns |
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| 17:05.35 | cgar | thanks, looking both options up |
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| 17:05.58 | mhall | almost forgot about free AOL CDs |
| 17:06.13 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, i can recommend you openbox or fluxbox... they are one of the "bigger" window managers... maybe go for wicd for network management, and a light file manager like pcman or thunar. use midori as web browser that should give you a good set of software tools for messing around with debian and doing research |
| 17:06.14 | mhall | used to be a serial AOL floppy reformatter |
| 17:06.45 | tensorpudding | oh man, I forgot about the floppy days of AOL |
| 17:07.04 | mhall | yeah, hahaha, that lart brought back memories |
| 17:07.13 | jason404 | my cron job failed to execute. how can I find out what might have happned? |
| 17:07.21 | Benkinooby | mhall, lart? |
| 17:07.25 | mhall | one fun thing with the AOL floppies was you could run the QNX demo live floppy |
| 17:07.37 | mhall | Benkinooby: 10:05 * dpkg keeps mailing gpt and efi free America Online CDs until he drowns |
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| 17:07.49 | abrotman | jason404: what is the filename? |
| 17:07.54 | mhall | Benkinooby: I larted GPT and EFI because they're fucking up my install on my Sandy Bridge box |
| 17:08.03 | mhall | Benkinooby: And that was the lart that dpkg chose. :) |
| 17:08.39 | mhall | This Sandy Bridge box is even worse than when I had to set up the dual Opteron box with the SATA BIOS bug that made half the controllers disappear |
| 17:08.45 | jason404 | abrotman: the filename for what? the crontab file? |
| 17:09.06 | mhall | Some geniuses mapped some of the AHCI IO registers over the top of ACPI reserved memory space and the kernel got pissed and disabled them. |
| 17:09.19 | abrotman | jason404: then use full paths, also try a touch to test if it is running? |
| 17:09.39 | mhall | I really hope this crap-heap installs successfully this damn time. |
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| 17:10.09 | wols | nejucomo: and iwconfig shows eth1 has wireless extensions enabled? |
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| 17:10.32 | Benkinooby | mhall, ok, now i don't understand any of your sentences :P |
| 17:10.41 | nejucomo | wols: checking... |
| 17:10.44 | jason404 | abrotman: not sure what you are suggesting. I tried this: |
| 17:10.45 | jason404 | sudo /var/spool/cron/crontabs/jason |
| 17:10.45 | jason404 | sudo: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/jason: command not found |
| 17:10.52 | mhall | Benkinooby: Well, when you have large disks you have to use the new partition table format |
| 17:10.56 | abrotman | full path to sudo |
| 17:11.02 | jason404 | and touch changes timestamps I though? |
| 17:11.06 | mhall | Benkinooby: And it seems like the machine refuses to boot right because of it |
| 17:11.12 | mhall | Benkinooby: For obscure reasons I can't figure out |
| 17:11.14 | nejucomo | Yes, it shows things like "IEEE 802.11" and "Access Point: Not-Associated".\ |
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| 17:12.04 | wols | nejucomo: is there any reason you don't want to use WPA? |
| 17:12.06 | Benkinooby | mhall, ah! gpt and efi are the partition table formats... now i recongize them... but what got this to do with dpkg (=packagemanagement) |
| 17:12.20 | mhall | Benkinooby: dpkg is the channel bot here :) |
| 17:12.23 | wols | Benkinooby: efi is a BIOS replacement. nothing to do with partition tables |
| 17:12.38 | jason404 | abrotman: /usr/bin/sudo /var/spool/cron/crontabs/jason |
| 17:12.38 | jason404 | sudo: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/jason: command not found |
| 17:12.39 | cusco | then there is the gpt partition table |
| 17:12.40 | mhall | but EFI does have something to do with the weird boot behavior I believe |
| 17:12.53 | kingsley | I'm back. |
| 17:12.55 | nejucomo | wols: The wifi here has no encryption and i want as few layers as possible to make debugging easier? |
| 17:13.01 | mhall | However I'm having trouble getting the error screens to pop up right |
| 17:13.03 | Benkinooby | wols, thx for clarification |
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| 17:13.25 | mhall | Benkinooby: the other channel bot is of course apt |
| 17:13.44 | kingsley | mhall, I've not tried shift-pgup yet. Please elaborate on how it might help. |
| 17:13.44 | nejucomo | wols: I am assuming wpasupplicant builds on top of iwconfig, so I could be wrong or I could be missing steps that wpasupplicant would perform though... |
| 17:14.05 | mhall | kingsley: well i'm thinking you might see more of the error messages causing your boot failure |
| 17:14.13 | Benkinooby | i'd say rather unlucky names for bots ;) |
| 17:14.23 | Benkinooby | apt get |
| 17:14.23 | apt | somebody said get was search http://www.apt-get.org |
| 17:14.29 | Benkinooby | ah! |
| 17:14.30 | jason404 | abrotman: 5 * * * * jason /home/users/jason/SCRIPTS/foo/bar |
| 17:14.35 | mhall | Benkinooby: i think it came from them being helpful tools in the channel |
| 17:14.42 | mhall | Benkinooby: sort of like dpkg and apt are for the OS itself |
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| 17:15.09 | mhall | s/helpful tools/occasionally useful automated channel spammers/ |
| 17:15.19 | Benkinooby | mhall, until now, those bots with their names have caused more confusion that anything else :P |
| 17:15.40 | mhall | i guess i'm used to them nowadays, i've been coming here since 1997 |
| 17:15.47 | kingsley | wols, I know we've chatted recently, but I do not recall if it was specifically about how to diagnose why booting leaves the root file system "read only". My computers have had so many bugs r3ecently that they make Charlie Sheen look stable. |
| 17:15.59 | nejucomo | wols: Also, I'm unfamiliar with how to connect wiht wpasupplicant instead of just iwconfig. |
| 17:16.12 | mhall | this can't be the same kingsley as long ago |
| 17:16.22 | mhall | he wouldn't have cracked a Charlie Sheen burn |
| 17:16.23 | wols | kingsley: nine out of ten times partition is mounted read only cause there were errors detected in the filesystem |
| 17:16.31 | nejucomo | Regardless of which tool I use, shouldn'\t the driver send messages to syslog explaining that it could not associate? The behavior is totally silent currently. |
| 17:16.32 | wols | kingsley: and I told you this before |
| 17:17.11 | mhall | nejucomo: Want to hear a good three-word joke? Linux Wireless Drivers. |
| 17:17.38 | wols | mhall: wrong. it's broadcom which is shit. which is solely the fault of the company called broadcom |
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| 17:17.54 | wols | nejucomo: checked your kernel log? |
| 17:17.58 | tensorpudding | broadcom provides a nice driver for my wireless |
| 17:18.00 | mhall | wols: Agreed. But sometimes one takes liberties with these things for the sake of comedy. ;) |
| 17:18.15 | tensorpudding | i can't say that i'm unhappy with them |
| 17:18.20 | kingsley | wols, Do you suppose fsck would adequately diagnose fs errors? |
| 17:18.34 | wols | kingsley: it's what it was made for... |
| 17:18.51 | tensorpudding | better a functional proprietary blob than a dysfunctional open workaround, in an imperfect world |
| 17:18.52 | mhall | Yeah that's always the problem with stuff like Broadcom. It works well enough, until it doesn't, then it's impossible to troubleshoot or fix. |
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| 17:18.53 | Benkinooby | mhall, still i don't know what lart/larting/ a lart is... |
| 17:19.04 | wols | Benkinooby: /msg dpkg lart |
| 17:19.04 | kingsley | wols, I tried it. |
| 17:19.10 | Benkinooby | dpkg, lart |
| 17:19.12 | mhall | Benkinooby: ah, sorry about that. it's a UNIX admin joke. |
| 17:19.22 | mhall | Benkinooby: lart == Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool |
| 17:19.25 | wols | kingsley: your system will have told you why it mounted it read only. read that |
| 17:19.30 | mhall | Benkinooby: it's kind of the same concept as a "cluebat" |
| 17:19.47 | mhall | Benkinooby: a tool or method of beating up a stupid user to make them behave better |
| 17:19.59 | nejucomo | wols: Do you mean the output of dmesg? It seems to say nothing (except there's a lot of noise about CPU0 or CPU1 attaching sched domain). |
| 17:20.09 | mhall | Benkinooby: so, our channel bots have got a collection of larts set up, and also smites |
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| 17:20.24 | mhall | Benkinooby: you can use them against software, hardware, or people, which are making you really angry |
| 17:20.41 | Benkinooby | revenge of the admins |
| 17:20.45 | nejucomo | Hm, maybe I should try the wl driver approach again. |
| 17:20.47 | mhall | Benkinooby: there used to be a particularly foul smite called the mhallsmite, but sadly it was deleted |
| 17:20.48 | Benkinooby | for a better world |
| 17:20.52 | Roboman2444 | I'm having trouble using unrar to extract a multiple part rar fiile |
| 17:21.03 | kingsley | wols, If you can, please elaborate on where my "system" will reveal why the root fs is mounted read only. |
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| 17:21.14 | tensorpudding | Roboman2444: are you using it on the first part? |
| 17:21.17 | mhall | Benkinooby: if you are bored some day and having nothing better to do, it's a lot of fun to read entries from the Jargon File |
| 17:21.19 | wols | kingsley: on your screen. possibly in your logs |
| 17:21.20 | tensorpudding | robotgerman: which unrar is it? |
| 17:21.29 | mhall | Benkinooby: many of the obscure in-jokes and terms for UNIX are explained in there |
| 17:21.32 | wols | mhall: do you confuse #debian with a social channel? |
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| 17:21.55 | tensorpudding | err, sorry robotgerman |
| 17:22.00 | mhall | wols: Apparently I did. I'll stop. |
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| 17:22.10 | Benkinooby | apt jargon file |
| 17:22.11 | apt | Description of common hacker words and phrases. URL: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/ |
| 17:22.20 | wols | !tell Benkinooby about msgthebot |
| 17:22.27 | tensorpudding | Roboman2444: which unrar is it? |
| 17:23.08 | kingsley | wols The logs aren't written to because the root file system is read only. The console doesn't diagnose it. |
| 17:23.16 | wols | tensorpudding: hasn't there been an announcement by gnu.org about a Free rar v3 unpacker not so long ago? |
| 17:23.33 | tensorpudding | wols: not sure what you mean |
| 17:23.40 | mhall | Can't you unpack them using the 7zip CLI utility? |
| 17:23.47 | wols | tensorpudding: you know that rar v3 is not supported by Free unrar? |
| 17:23.58 | mhall | I'm pretty sure that's free code. Or does it call the proprietary RAR libs? |
| 17:24.04 | mhall | Or maybe doesn't support V3. |
| 17:24.08 | wols | mhall: uses the same code as unrar |
| 17:24.08 | mhall | checks |
| 17:24.10 | tensorpudding | wols: didn't know that, but then i've never used the free unrar |
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| 17:24.40 | wols | kingsley: what happens if you try to remounte it rw? |
| 17:24.42 | mhall | tries to avoid obscure compression formats |
| 17:24.57 | tensorpudding | in either case, there's still two unrar packages in squeeze |
| 17:25.06 | tensorpudding | rar is hardly obscure |
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| 17:25.18 | valdyn | rar is for "warez" |
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| 17:25.31 | tensorpudding | it's probably the second most common for cross-platform, after zip, and before 7z |
| 17:25.34 | kingsley | wols, It seems to me you pose a clever question. |
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| 17:25.39 | wols | valdyn: not anymore. it successfuly used warez to become popular |
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| 17:26.09 | valdyn | evil |
| 17:26.19 | wols | kingsley: are you trying to make people stop helping you on purpose? |
| 17:26.34 | mhall | tries to stick with tgz, tbz2, and zip |
| 17:26.37 | Roboman2444 | It's unrar-free |
| 17:26.38 | valdyn | wols: he alwaystalks weird |
| 17:26.40 | kingsley | wols, What would you think of rebooting with a so called "recovery mode" kernel, trying to remount it there, and looking for a specific error message? |
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| 17:26.57 | wols | kingsley: good luck. you'll need it |
| 17:27.07 | Roboman2444 | And it's two parts... Thing.Part1.rar and thing.part2.Rar |
| 17:27.12 | Roboman2444 | Oops caps |
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| 17:27.27 | Roboman2444 | I have tried renaming to .r00 and .r01 |
| 17:27.29 | valdyn | Roboman2444: just use unrar from non-free |
| 17:27.35 | Roboman2444 | Alright |
| 17:27.40 | cgar | fixed it, just had to add to grub.cfg the following lines to keep the res from grub set gfxpayload=keep and insmod vbe |
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| 17:28.18 | valdyn | cgar: bad idea, dont edit grub.cfg directly |
| 17:28.42 | obiwahn | why not |
| 17:28.42 | wols | cgar: anytime you will install a kernel, these settings will be gone |
| 17:28.57 | obiwahn | to test things it is ok:) |
| 17:29.02 | valdyn | obiwahn: because that file is regularily regenerated on various events |
| 17:29.16 | zastaph | for sftp to work do I need to setup an ftp server besides ssh daemon? |
| 17:29.24 | valdyn | zastaph: no |
| 17:29.37 | cgar | add it to 00_header? |
| 17:29.41 | zastaph | valdyn, I read 4-5 guides now, I can't connect (from filezilla) |
| 17:30.07 | valdyn | zastaph: sftp is ambigous |
| 17:30.14 | zastaph | valdyn, meaning what |
| 17:30.17 | wols | zastaph: filezilla gives you a log. what does it say |
| 17:30.29 | wols | valdyn: filezilla works fine with sftp. no problems with it |
| 17:30.51 | valdyn | zastaph: sftp is a program that is part of ssh and works over ssh, but its also been used for "secure ftp" ( which is probably ftp over ssl or somesuch ) |
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| 17:30.54 | Benkinooby | mhall, so AOL is a iternet provider that sent free floppies on request? |
| 17:30.54 | zastaph | wols, actually the problem right now is that i can't get a connection at all (but I can with regular SSH) |
| 17:31.00 | valdyn | wols: no idea about filezilla |
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| 17:31.10 | wols | !tell Benkinooby about ot |
| 17:31.18 | wols | valdyn: but I do :) for this case at least :) |
| 17:31.22 | Roboman2444 | Alright j slapped in the x64 one from the Rar site into /use/bin and now it works |
| 17:31.24 | Roboman2444 | Thanks |
| 17:31.32 | obiwahn | cgar: pls check /etc/default/grub first |
| 17:31.36 | wols | zastaph: I asked about a log. I did as for a reason |
| 17:31.48 | wols | *ask |
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| 17:31.57 | tifflor | can someone help me to find out why apache shows me a 503 service not available error after including this file http://pastebin.com/K6qz5Cpm |
| 17:32.01 | tifflor | it's working without any problems as soon as I remove that file |
| 17:32.05 | tifflor | I can't find any specific error within the logfiles mentioned in that file and none at all in the main error log |
| 17:32.19 | zinx | Benkinooby: no, AOL is an internet provider that sent free floppies if they had your address, whether you requested them or not |
| 17:32.33 | obiwahn | cgar: yep there is a val where you can set it |
| 17:32.57 | zastaph | wols, besides the screen output? I dont know where it stores log files on windows |
| 17:33.01 | obiwahn | gfx_payload_linux |
| 17:33.20 | wols | zastaph: yes the screen output below the menu and toolbar |
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| 17:33.44 | wols | tifflor: 503 for which url? |
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| 17:33.45 | cgar | <obiwahn>: I don't have a /etc/default/grub |
| 17:33.48 | zastaph | wols: fzSftp started, open "user@ip"22. Error: Connection timed out |
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| 17:34.09 | wols | zastaph: it's fine if you don't want to give out the real logs. have a nice day |
| 17:34.26 | wols | cgar: what debian do you run? |
| 17:34.35 | jason404 | how can I found out why my cron job is not executing? |
| 17:34.49 | jason404 | does it need to be enabled somehow? |
| 17:34.52 | cgar | squeeze 6.02 |
| 17:35.07 | jason404 | All I did was makde crontab file with crontab -e |
| 17:35.07 | valdyn | jason404: if it is a cron job then it is exectuted, maybe its not doing what you think it does |
| 17:35.29 | viddy | I'm having tons of those "hung_tsk" or "task blocked" (whatever you want to call them) errors, and i really dont get why. Neither do i know where to look, an example of the log here: http://pastebin.com/rFViZyft -- Help appreciated :i |
| 17:35.35 | jason404 | but I kept an eye on htop whilke it was suposed to happen, but I never saw anything |
| 17:35.37 | obiwahn | cgar: 10_linux |
| 17:35.57 | obiwahn | grep for set gfxpayload |
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| 17:36.35 | wols | obiwahn: editing those file is as bad as editing grub.cfg |
| 17:36.43 | valdyn | viddy: what type of storage is used by the process that is causing that issue ( rsync ) |
| 17:36.53 | jason404 | isn't there a log file or something? |
| 17:37.16 | obiwahn | wols: never harmed my system:) what do you suggest? |
| 17:37.29 | viddy | valdyn: sata, only have one controller in the machine |
| 17:37.37 | valdyn | viddy: filesystems? |
| 17:37.39 | viddy | valdyn: this happens when doing i/o to both drives on the controller as well |
| 17:37.42 | viddy | valdyn: ext3 on both |
| 17:38.00 | viddy | fsck also takes ages |
| 17:38.08 | valdyn | viddy: so its happening on an rsync between 2 sata drives? |
| 17:38.10 | obiwahn | cgar: keep a backup and get a usbstick that is bootable when you are playing .. just in case |
| 17:38.11 | viddy | so there seems to be SOME sort of i/o problem which i am failing to locate |
| 17:38.15 | viddy | valdyn: in this case, yes. |
| 17:38.41 | valdyn | viddy: the stack trace is not the error itself, show us the complete dmesg |
| 17:39.12 | viddy | hmm, the dmesg just has tons of those, i can paste a bigger part |
| 17:39.20 | cgar | obiwahn: will do, thanks. Do I write 'keep' in 10_linux after set gfxpayload=? |
| 17:39.27 | valdyn | viddy: nothing between those errors? |
| 17:39.32 | viddy | nope |
| 17:39.37 | valdyn | viddy: uname -r |
| 17:39.43 | viddy | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 17:40.22 | valdyn | viddy: it could be a bad disk, but then you should see errors in dmesg |
| 17:40.27 | viddy | its not a bad disk |
| 17:40.30 | viddy | tried in another box |
| 17:40.32 | valdyn | viddy: and same for bad cabling |
| 17:40.39 | viddy | that might be, i could try switching s-atacables |
| 17:40.45 | viddy | but its weird for two cables to be failing |
| 17:40.48 | viddy | at the same time |
| 17:40.56 | valdyn | viddy: maybe power supply? |
| 17:41.02 | viddy | THAT is actually very possible |
| 17:41.12 | viddy | if that can have such an effect |
| 17:41.15 | valdyn | viddy: all those issues should show ata command errors in dmesg though |
| 17:41.15 | hideo | jason404: you could make your crontab "command >> /tmp/blah.log" and see |
| 17:41.38 | viddy | no ata-errors in logs or dmesg :/ |
| 17:41.46 | valdyn | viddy: the effects of analog issues are unpredictable |
| 17:41.52 | viddy | yeah |
| 17:41.59 | jason404 | hideo: ok thanks, but I don't thnk it is actually executing at all |
| 17:42.10 | valdyn | viddy: less you have hardware watchdogs, but im sure you dont, on pc hardware |
| 17:42.15 | tifflor | wols: the url within that config file I pasted |
| 17:42.15 | obiwahn | cgar: jep - if that helped you - dont forget the backup and usb stick |
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| 17:42.25 | tifflor | and for any other url too |
| 17:42.59 | valdyn | viddy: can you do that rsync successfully without hung task between the same disk(s) in a different machine? |
| 17:43.03 | obiwahn | cgar: you could use the mbr of a 2nd disk as a fallback |
| 17:43.08 | viddy | valdyn: yes |
| 17:43.18 | valdyn | viddy: is that other machine using the same kernel? |
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| 17:43.33 | viddy | no, its not |
| 17:43.41 | cgar | obiwahn: great. thnx |
| 17:43.44 | valdyn | viddy: what kernel is it? |
| 17:43.55 | valdyn | viddy: can you switch to the one the other machine is using? |
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| 17:44.41 | viddy | valdyn: its 2.6.38 on the other box |
| 17:44.50 | valdyn | viddy: i can easily reproduce that error in software, but I'm using btrfs, which sure has severe latency issues |
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| 17:45.12 | viddy | right, hmm. this sucks. |
| 17:45.18 | viddy | brand new hardware too, all except the drives |
| 17:45.24 | valdyn | viddy: problem is i never heared of such issues with ext3, but you might want to try different kernel |
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| 17:45.41 | valdyn | viddy: the lack of any hardware error messages though seems to indicate software issues |
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| 17:45.55 | viddy | yes, that was my initial thought too. but i failed to get to the bottom of it |
| 17:46.11 | viddy | is there any good way (debian way) to switch kernels to something not available in the default debian repos? |
| 17:46.18 | viddy | i dont want to break everything totally |
| 17:46.21 | valdyn | viddy: use bpo |
| 17:46.24 | valdyn | !bpo |
| 17:46.24 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <bdo key> <backports-sloppy> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 17:46.30 | viddy | aha |
| 17:46.47 | valdyn | viddy: backports.org is fine, just make sure you only get their kernel of you choice, not other stuff you might not want |
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| 17:47.35 | viddy | so if i add this to my sources, i should do some prioritizing or something? |
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| 17:47.51 | viddy | i usually just use repos which dont have overlapping packages, so i havent been doing much of that before :i |
| 17:48.33 | valdyn | viddy: I dont remember, the site has docs, but you should just install their kernel and get rid of it the sources line after, unless that new kernel fixes your issue |
| 17:48.38 | SoloGaijin | j #damnsmalllinux |
| 17:48.40 | viddy | right |
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| 17:48.42 | viddy | thanks alot, valdyn! |
| 17:48.43 | SoloGaijin | oops |
| 17:48.45 | wols | viddy: no. you only install from backports if you expressly say so in your apt-get command |
| 17:48.55 | viddy | nice to know |
| 17:49.13 | SoloGaijin | heh dsl chan says no longer in dev use tinycore heh |
| 17:49.18 | viddy | hmm.. breaks initramfs, scary |
| 17:49.21 | SoloGaijin | cant seem to connect to my wifi |
| 17:49.28 | SoloGaijin | and laptop has no ethernet |
| 17:49.49 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, do you use wicd? |
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| 17:50.58 | viddy | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/AGyiSjj9 :-D |
| 17:51.11 | viddy | these things tend to break everything, don't they |
| 17:51.24 | SoloGaijin | I dont see wicd |
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| 17:51.41 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, in your repositories? |
| 17:51.42 | SoloGaijin | iwconfig, ndiswrapper, prism2, wlancardconfig are all the options in apps/system |
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| 17:52.03 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, ah.. you're still installing |
| 17:52.09 | SoloGaijin | well its installed |
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| 17:52.46 | viddy | upgrading linux-base, lets hope i dont die |
| 17:52.47 | viddy | :i |
| 17:53.17 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, download wicd for your debian install with an other computer and transfer it to your laptop (has it usb?) connectiont to a wlan without wicd or networkmanager is a real pain... especially if it is encrypted |
| 17:53.30 | wols | ,versions wicd-gtk |
| 17:53.31 | judd | Package wicd-gtk on i386 -- squeeze: 1.7.0+ds1-5; sid: 1.7.0+ds1-6; wheezy: 1.7.0+ds1-6 |
| 17:53.38 | Benkinooby | nice |
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| 17:55.36 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, what version of debian you use? |
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| 17:56.25 | mendred | has gone fishing: Gone away for now |
| 17:56.51 | mendred | is back. |
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| 17:56.52 | SoloGaijin | I grabbed the latest install of DSL |
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| 17:58.10 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, i don't know about dsl... |
| 17:58.39 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, seems i can not help you further :( maybe there is a dsl chanel |
| 17:58.52 | SoloGaijin | there is, it says "no longer being developed, use tinycore instead" |
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| 17:59.50 | simonlnu | it's also offtopic\ |
| 17:59.56 | simonlnu | s,\\,, |
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| 18:00.01 | SoloGaijin | ? |
| 18:00.04 | SoloGaijin | what is |
| 18:00.08 | Dude214365 | does anyone know how i can use /usr/lib/apt/methods/http manually ? |
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| 18:00.18 | simonlnu | dsl |
| 18:00.22 | SoloGaijin | ah, sorry |
| 18:01.03 | Dude214365 | is there a channel for apt-get ? |
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| 18:01.21 | Kharec | lo |
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| 18:01.39 | simonlnu | Dude214365: just ask your real question |
| 18:01.57 | Dude214365 | simonlnu, i did ! |
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| 18:02.23 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, sorry, but i can't help you any further because i don't have any experience with dsl or their package management |
| 18:02.26 | jason404 | cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 27272: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 18:02.28 | wols | Dude214365: why would you want to? use wget or curl |
| 18:02.32 | jason404 | what is thi? |
| 18:02.35 | SoloGaijin | its okay Benkinooby I scrapped it- installing debian now |
| 18:02.43 | simonlnu | it all depends on why you're asking that. hence my statement |
| 18:02.54 | wols | jason404: cron is already running |
| 18:03.05 | Dude214365 | wols: this machine i am on doesn't have either, i'd love to use the apt http method |
| 18:03.11 | simonlnu | jason404: cron is already running, maybe |
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| 18:03.21 | wols | Dude214365: what debian version is this? |
| 18:03.25 | simonlnu | Dude214365: it all depends on why you're asking that. hence my statement |
| 18:03.31 | Dude214365 | wols, not a debian, its my iphone |
| 18:03.41 | jason404 | wols, okay, I stopped it and started it aghain with that command |
| 18:03.43 | wols | Dude214365: then ask #iphone or whatever |
| 18:03.48 | mrtnt1 | Not directly Debian question, but hopefully not offtopic as well. I'm searching for an used Intel X3220 CPU for my Linux server. Any ideas, where to find one? The best one I have found so far is this: http://cgi.ebay.de/INTEL-XEON-X3220-2-4GHz-8M-1066Mz-PROCESSOR-SL9UP-/290598709445?pt=CPUs&hash=item43a90868c5 Where do you search for used hardware with good price? |
| 18:04.04 | wols | mrtnt1: #hardware |
| 18:04.11 | Dude214365 | wols: its not an iphone question, its a apt question |
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| 18:04.20 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, maybe, as final hint, you might be insterested in puppy linux... it support debian and/or ubunut packages not sure... puppy linux is a minimal linux too as dsl, but i think it is intended to be a live system and not a installed system... but i am sure a minimal debian install + the apps i recommended will do fine ;) |
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| 18:04.29 | wols | Dude214365: it's not a debian question and that is all that mattery. this channel is for debian support only |
| 18:04.35 | wols | *matters |
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| 18:05.06 | Dude214365 | wols: which is why i asked if there was a channel for apt... |
| 18:05.11 | SoloGaijin | thx again - youve given me some good guidelines |
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| 18:05.54 | simonlnu | Dude214365: there is, but they don't do support, they do devel. they will boot you if you try to ask support questions |
| 18:06.20 | mercora | hello all ;) ive got trouble setting persistent permissions for a lv... i tried the example in /usr/share/doc/dmsetup/examples/udev-dm-permissions.rules but it has no effect :( |
| 18:06.52 | Dude214365 | simonlnu: its not a real support question, i just want to ask info about the protocol two of their components use to interact, could you tell me the channel name ? |
| 18:07.23 | simonlnu | ipc |
| 18:07.41 | Dude214365 | ? |
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| 18:08.58 | nvictor2 | hello debian ]o/ |
| 18:09.01 | nvictor2 | \o/ |
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| 18:09.15 | nvictor2 | so i decided that debian would be my dev platform |
| 18:09.18 | nvictor2 | isn't that great? |
| 18:09.24 | mercora | it parses the rules file "parse_file: reading '/etc/udev/rules.d/99-permissions.rules' as rules file |
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| 18:09.52 | mercora | but then it says udev_rules_apply_to_event: GROUP 6 /lib/udev/rules.d/91-permissions.rules:4 |
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| 18:10.30 | jason404 | in crontab.. |
| 18:10.37 | jason404 | 10 * * * * /home/users/jason/fooscript |
| 18:10.52 | jason404 | that is supposed to happen very 10 past the hour, right? |
| 18:11.24 | wols | yes |
| 18:11.46 | jason404 | but it does not seem to be doing anything |
| 18:11.48 | wols | jason404: have you checked if you got mail by crond? |
| 18:12.07 | wols | provided you have a MDA |
| 18:12.10 | jason404 | whre woudl it be? I have not set up a mail server |
| 18:12.45 | jason404 | ->mail |
| 18:12.46 | jason404 | No mail for jason |
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| 18:13.32 | koshieFinalReliz | Hi everyone. I've on Squeeze / XFCE4 installed clementine but I don't have a theme (so it's VERY ugly), what is the good package for qt application please ? |
| 18:13.38 | wols | jason404: if a cronjob goes haywire, cron wants to send a mail and tell you about it |
| 18:14.00 | jason404 | I do not see it come up on htop when it is supposed tp |
| 18:14.14 | boudiccas | jason404; put this on the end of your cron line ............ >/home/jason//apt-get.txt |
| 18:14.14 | jason404 | no redirected output logs or anything |
| 18:14.17 | kingsley | Could listing the wrong device for the root file system in /etc/mtab help explain why booting leaves the root file system "read only"? |
| 18:14.21 | jason404 | it is as thoug it just is not happening |
| 18:14.29 | boudiccas | miss out the second / |
| 18:14.46 | jason404 | boudiccas: double slash?? |
| 18:14.51 | koshieFinalReliz | Maybe something like kde-icons-* |
| 18:14.59 | boudiccas | no, i just said miss out the second / |
| 18:15.19 | nvictor2 | if i get the stable release of debian |
| 18:15.19 | jason404 | okay, but I had tried that befpre |
| 18:15.27 | nvictor2 | would i be able to upgrade later on? |
| 18:15.29 | jason404 | trust me, it is not executing at all |
| 18:15.41 | boudiccas | jason404; you'll see if it runs by the log file it creates |
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| 18:15.55 | wols | nvictor2: yes |
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| 18:17.04 | jason404 | boudiccas: okay, but I have tried this before. I changed the path to a direcvtory that exists |
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| 18:17.17 | jason404 | - /home/users/jason/.tmp/cron.txt |
| 18:17.39 | wols | jason404: what debian version is this? |
| 18:17.45 | nvictor2 | wols: a la bonheur \o/ |
| 18:17.54 | jason404 | 6,0 - Squeeze |
| 18:18.05 | wols | jason404: why /home/users ? |
| 18:18.12 | simonlnu | kingsley: no one edits mtab except the system. mount for example. |
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| 18:18.20 | jason404 | because that is where my user directory os |
| 18:18.22 | jason404 | is |
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| 18:18.40 | wols | any special reason why it's there? |
| 18:18.58 | jason404 | I don't know. It was just like that when I started using it |
| 18:19.06 | simonlnu | o_O |
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| 18:19.09 | jason404 | > /home/users/jason/.tmp/cron.txt |
| 18:19.25 | simonlnu | must've been a debconf question |
| 18:19.26 | jason404 | supposed to excute in one minute |
| 18:19.30 | nvictor2 | wow 8 dvd! :O |
| 18:19.41 | nvictor2 | isn't there a minimal setup |
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| 18:19.50 | nvictor2 | then i can get the packages i want later? |
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| 18:19.59 | boudiccas | nvictor2; yes, just the first cd/dvd |
| 18:20.08 | nvictor2 | boudiccas: awesome! |
| 18:20.45 | jason404 | 8 DVDs? is that teh whole repo? |
| 18:20.47 | wols | nvictor2: minimal is the 180MB netinst |
| 18:21.15 | wols | jason404: no it was not. debian doesn't put stuff into /home/users by default |
| 18:21.44 | jason404 | well, it was there on this one (rackspace cloud server) |
| 18:21.44 | nvictor2 | wols: ok will try that one too |
| 18:21.53 | aldermikov | if you want to do a minimal install, get the netinst image and uncheck desktop environment, laptop (if applies), and standard system utilities when installing |
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| 18:22.24 | nvictor2 | i would need the laptop |
| 18:22.26 | jason404 | I do not recall making the user directory, anyway |
| 18:22.37 | nvictor2 | aldermikov: i can uncheck desktop env? |
| 18:22.42 | nvictor2 | aldermikov: that's cool :) |
| 18:22.45 | simonlnu | you *want* the standard task |
| 18:22.59 | aldermikov | simonlnu: depends. i installed without it and haven't had any issues. |
| 18:23.03 | jason404 | omg, it ran |
| 18:23.06 | nvictor2 | aldermikov: would graphics libraries work? |
| 18:23.07 | Dmitry | hi all |
| 18:23.10 | nvictor2 | aldermikov: SDL? |
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| 18:23.35 | jason404 | oh actually, it didnlt |
| 18:23.45 | aldermikov | nvictor2: i don't know. i unchecked everything then installed xorg xmonad irssi etc. and it worked fine for me. |
| 18:24.22 | nvictor2 | aldermikov: noting :) |
| 18:24.53 | nvictor2 | yea i guess irssi is imp so i can get into this channel |
| 18:25.13 | jason404 | ahh, it has been naming the files wrong. that is what has been happening. as the root user is out of time by one hour because it does not know about BST daylight saving |
| 18:25.18 | Dmitry | ĆĀĆĀĆĀĆĀĆĀŗĆĀ¾ĆĀĆĀ·ĆĀĆĀĆĀ½ĆĀ¾ĆĀµ ĆĀ½ĆĀ°ĆĀĆĀµĆĀ»ĆĀµĆĀ½ĆĀøĆĀµ ĆĀµĆĀĆĀĆĀ? |
| 18:25.35 | boudiccas | Dmitry; english only please |
| 18:26.43 | nvictor2 | ah come on :) |
| 18:26.53 | nvictor2 | we like diversity, don't we? :P |
| 18:26.57 | Dmitry | boudiccas, Russian is forbidden? |
| 18:27.03 | boudiccas | jason404; have you installed ntp? when run that will correct the internal clock for you |
| 18:27.15 | ansgar | !ru |
| 18:27.15 | dpkg | eto anglijsko govorjashhij kanal, pozhalujsta govorite po anglijski ili posetite #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
| 18:27.19 | boudiccas | Dmitry; you wont find many that will understand you |
| 18:27.33 | nvictor2 | !es |
| 18:27.34 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 18:27.37 | nvictor2 | !fr |
| 18:27.38 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 18:27.44 | nvictor2 | !uk |
| 18:27.44 | dpkg | [uk] the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and comprises the countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. (Under ISO 3166-1, it should have been .gb not .uk, but that never quite caught on.) |
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| 18:27.48 | jason404 | boudiccas: yes, the clock is fine, but the root user has not got the summer time daylight saving adjustment in the .bashrc file |
| 18:27.54 | nvictor2 | hahaha :lol: |
| 18:27.57 | nvictor2 | !sw |
| 18:27.57 | dpkg | troubled: you un-stats whore |
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| 18:28.04 | nvictor2 | !se |
| 18:28.04 | dpkg | Svensktalande debian-anvƤndare hittar du i #debian.se pƄ FreeNode (irc.freenode.net), SE is also the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Sweden, it was included in the standard 1974. |
| 18:28.06 | nvictor2 | !pr |
| 18:28.25 | Dmitry | boudiccas, but it is possible to find, right? |
| 18:28.25 | ansgar | nvictor2: Please don't spam the channel. You can talk to the bot in private. |
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| 18:28.42 | boudiccas | Dmitry; find what? |
| 18:29.01 | Dmitry | people who understand russian |
| 18:29.30 | boudiccas | Dmitry; i doubt if you'll find many, if any at all, russian speakers here |
| 18:29.41 | Dmitry | ok |
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| 18:33.35 | boudiccas | !ru |
| 18:33.35 | dpkg | eto anglijsko govorjashhij kanal, pozhalujsta govorite po anglijski ili posetite #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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| 18:35.38 | TrueDD | Hi everybody ! |
| 18:35.59 | izua | hello. i'm running latest debian, installed iceweasel 5 from mozilla.debian.net sources, downloaded libflashplayer.so from adobe, copied it to ~/.mozilla/plugins, and there's nothing listed in the extensions page |
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| 18:36.23 | izua | and obviously, flash doesn't work. |
| 18:36.26 | rozie | izua: why don't you use flash from Debian? |
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| 18:36.42 | simonlnu | it won't show up in extensions, but plugins |
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| 18:38.06 | izua | because nothing works with that |
| 18:38.38 | SoloGaijin | okay im up and running debian with no gui and want to install lxde, im on the debian lxde page - do I just want lxde-core? |
| 18:38.50 | izua | gnash was installed by default, but except some very very simple stuff, nothing that involved streaming or complex animations worked. |
| 18:39.06 | wols | izua: you can install flash from adobe via package manager |
| 18:39.32 | wols | !tell izua about adobe flash |
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| 18:39.37 | simonlnu | WorksForMe |
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| 18:41.05 | wols | SoloGaijin: what debian lxde page? in debian you usually install stuff via apt, not some webpage |
| 18:41.08 | nvictor2 | simonlnu: works_for_me, python forever :P |
| 18:41.15 | wols | SoloGaijin: and you need xorg as well |
| 18:41.33 | SoloGaijin | its a really old machine so I ran netinstaller but dont have ethernet, only wifi, which isnt setup yet |
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| 18:41.51 | SoloGaijin | so figured id download the packages until I have net up |
| 18:42.06 | rozie | SoloGaijin: you probably will want some login manager. slim is pretty light |
| 18:42.20 | wols | SoloGaijin: then I strongly suggest you set it up. cause lxde-core will have many dependencies it needs to actually function. you can download all thoes package manually, but it will be very very tedious |
| 18:42.35 | izua | wols: so, i want to add "contrib non-free" keywords for each source, then apt-get update and then install flashplugin. |
| 18:42.35 | SoloGaijin | alright |
| 18:42.57 | wols | izua: no, not for every source and why do you think you need non-free for flash? |
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| 18:43.25 | SoloGaijin | I have wicd package on a usb drive, just googling how to install the package |
| 18:43.39 | jason404 | is exim4 installed by default, or did I install it and not remember? |
| 18:43.40 | wols | SoloGaijin: with dpkg. man dpkg should help |
| 18:43.52 | valdyn | jason404: it is installed by default |
| 18:44.02 | jason404 | oh, okay thank |
| 18:44.03 | izua | every method out there i found on getting flash required adding some repo from dipconsultants |
| 18:44.03 | rozie | jason404: by default if you have at for example |
| 18:44.15 | jason404 | at~? |
| 18:44.15 | SoloGaijin | I am doing ls in media usb and usb0 but its not showing me my usb's contents where the package is |
| 18:44.16 | wols | jason404: I think it is installed via the "standard" setting. but not sure. apparently people can get a debian nowadays without exim4 installed. in the past, it was always installed |
| 18:44.30 | jason404 | ic |
| 18:44.36 | wols | valdyn: not anymore it seems |
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| 18:44.49 | wols | izua: dpkg just told you what to do |
| 18:44.50 | jason404 | I started off with a very minial installation, but I seem to have it |
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| 18:45.17 | valdyn | cron needs it, question is if you need cron. Most systems do |
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| 18:46.09 | valdyn | but theres no hard dependency |
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| 18:46.12 | valdyn | appearantly |
| 18:46.21 | simonlnu | wols: yeh, i noticed that during my last install |
| 18:46.42 | simonlnu | i had to explicitly select an mta |
| 18:47.00 | simonlnu | ,info cron |
| 18:47.01 | wols | makes it easier for us postfix types :) |
| 18:47.01 | judd | Package cron (admin, important) in squeeze/i386: process scheduling daemon. Version: 3.0pl1-116; Size: 91.0k; Installed: 336k; Homepage: http://ftp.isc.org/isc/cron/ |
| 18:47.15 | simonlnu | ,info mail-transport-agent |
| 18:47.16 | judd | No record of package 'mail-transport-agent' in squeeze/i386. |
| 18:47.17 | SoloGaijin | ah got it - didnt have the usb mounted |
| 18:47.31 | simonlnu | ,info exim4-daemon-light |
| 18:47.32 | judd | Package exim4-daemon-light (mail, standard) in squeeze/i386: lightweight Exim MTA (v4) daemon. Version: 4.72-6+squeeze2; Size: 536.4k; Installed: 1040k; Homepage: http://www.exim.org/ |
| 18:47.42 | simonlnu | ah |
| 18:47.53 | simonlnu | and i did have standard selected... how odd |
| 18:48.16 | valdyn | simonlnu: deps should still be " exim4 | postfix | mail-transport-agent " |
| 18:48.26 | valdyn | simonlnu: i think that will pull exim4 first |
| 18:48.36 | simonlnu | ,deps cron |
| 18:48.45 | valdyn | cron has no deb |
| 18:48.50 | simonlnu | ,depends cron |
| 18:48.51 | judd | Package cron -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libselinux1 (>= 1.32), debianutils (>= 1.7), adduser, lsb-base (>= 3.0-10), libpam-runtime (>= 1.0.1-11). |
| 18:48.52 | valdyn | cron has no *dep* |
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| 18:49.06 | valdyn | maybe that is all that changed |
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| 18:49.20 | valdyn | maybe due to aptitude pulling recommends by default? |
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| 18:49.33 | simonlnu | possibly |
| 18:49.51 | valdyn | at least i would consider a cron that cant report in a default install a bug |
| 18:49.53 | mstevens | I think my mime types have got messed up. gnome can't open any files anymore befcause it can't decide what they are |
| 18:50.03 | simonlnu | yeh really |
| 18:50.11 | SoloGaijin | how do I know which pacakge I want for wicd: lenny, squeeze, weezy, sid... I installed netinstaller 6.0.2.1 |
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| 18:50.26 | simonlnu | squeeze |
| 18:50.29 | wols | SoloGaijin: squeeze aka stable |
| 18:50.49 | wols | SoloGaijin: and wicd will want another half dozen packages to run. why do you want wicd? |
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| 18:51.04 | simonlnu | it's not so much installer version as debian release |
| 18:51.16 | SoloGaijin | Benkinooby said setting up my network would be a pain without it |
| 18:51.32 | simonlnu | better than n-m |
| 18:51.34 | SoloGaijin | I just need a way to connect to my wireless so I can download some apps |
| 18:51.40 | valdyn | SoloGaijin: your wlan interface most likely needs firmware first and foremost |
| 18:51.40 | wols | simonlnu: that's not the point :) |
| 18:52.05 | simonlnu | hehe |
| 18:52.09 | wols | SoloGaijin: and wpasupplicant and wireless-tools. if these are all present, it's all you need |
| 18:52.53 | SoloGaijin | neither are present, command not found |
| 18:53.11 | valdyn | SoloGaijin: dpkg -l wpasupplicant; dpkg -l wireless-tools |
| 18:53.13 | wols | SoloGaijin: we know. these you must get via pdo |
| 18:53.21 | valdyn | ah |
| 18:53.23 | wols | valdyn: he used a netinst |
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| 18:53.30 | valdyn | and no network.. i get it |
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| 18:54.15 | SoloGaijin | so my task is then to manually get wireless-tools to connect to the wifi? |
| 18:54.25 | valdyn | SoloGaijin: all 3 things |
| 18:54.42 | simonlnu | and probably the right firmware package too |
| 18:54.54 | SoloGaijin | and these will all have a handful of dependencies which will make this a pain in the |
| 18:55.03 | simonlnu | butt |
| 18:55.06 | SoloGaijin | =/ |
| 18:55.10 | valdyn | SoloGaijin: no |
| 18:55.20 | simonlnu | not that complicated |
| 18:55.43 | wols | SoloGaijin: the 3 things we told you about don't have a ton of dependencies like wicd does |
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| 18:55.52 | wols | SoloGaijin: what wlan chip do you have? |
| 18:56.10 | SoloGaijin | pcmcia card, dlink G650 |
| 18:56.15 | SoloGaijin | OLD laptop |
| 18:56.32 | wols | SoloGaijin: I asked for the chip, not the card name |
| 18:56.39 | SoloGaijin | ah.. how to find out |
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| 18:56.40 | boudiccas | ever get the sense of deja-vu? we had this discussion with SoloGaijin this morning |
| 18:56.58 | wols | boudiccas: such stuff is normal. unfortunately |
| 18:57.11 | wols | SoloGaijin: lspcmcia might be a start |
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| 18:57.34 | alfplayer | why "ls" inside grub rescue shows empty directories with Debian Testing + ext4 + usb case ? |
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| 18:58.13 | SoloGaijin | atheros ar5001x+ |
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| 18:58.26 | wols | in a pcmcia card? interesting |
| 18:58.44 | valdyn | SoloGaijin: get those 3 packages from pdo or reinstall using the first cdrom instead of netinstall, and get only the firmware package via pdo |
| 18:58.44 | valdyn | SoloGaijin: getting 3 packages is probably the quicker way |
| 18:58.45 | wols | atheros 500x cards usually don't need any firmware |
| 18:58.50 | SoloGaijin | well lspcmcia didnt give results so I did lspci and saw that |
| 18:58.53 | rozie | I hope Debian community will realize that there's real need for working installers, not only pure and free installers and next edition will be shipped with two official installer lines... |
| 18:58.57 | wols | valdyn: what firmware? |
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| 18:59.16 | SoloGaijin | okay ill just do that valdyn |
| 18:59.16 | wols | rozie: it won't |
| 18:59.27 | rozie | wols: why? |
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| 18:59.33 | valdyn | wols: none i guess |
| 18:59.39 | valdyn | rozie: this "complaint" is as old as debian |
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| 18:59.49 | valdyn | rozie: its not going to happen |
| 19:00.03 | wols | rozie: cause debian has a DFSG. and: there already is an installer with firmware available. and there is also a way to use the normal installer which then can get firmware if needed |
| 19:00.06 | simonlnu | you can't plan for every corner case |
| 19:00.10 | wols | !tell rozie about firmware |
| 19:00.18 | rozie | but only Squeeze has this problem with firmwares |
| 19:00.21 | wols | rozie: read it. including the other factoids it mentions |
| 19:01.06 | valdyn | rozie: not entirely true but youre right that debian removed firmware from the kernel itself |
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| 19:02.47 | valdyn | rozie: issues with wireless chipsets that never had firmware in kernel is totally unchanged afaik |
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| 19:03.14 | wols | and there are the majority of all wireless chips by far |
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| 19:08.13 | rozie | wols: thanks. I thought there's only kmuto installer (unofficial) with better hardware support. any idea how it differs from official non-free installer? |
| 19:09.29 | wols | it differs like kmuto always differed: backported kernel |
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| 19:17.59 | moniker326 | hello everyone |
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| 19:19.07 | moniker326 | I'm using debian as a web server and I'm getting a 503 after installing a SSL cert and doing a proxypass directive, I'll post the error log and my virtualhosts in a sec |
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| 19:22.15 | moniker326 | http://pastebin.com/if1h4Btr |
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| 19:27.24 | moniker326 | http://pastebin.com/2ar6rMah |
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| 19:30.26 | holmgren | So, when it worked, with no SSL cert, you didn't have the ProxyPass either? |
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| 19:32.31 | moniker326 | I haven't got the subdomain to work just with or without the proxypass |
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| 19:33.08 | moniker326 | want subdomain.domain.com to go to www.domain.com/billing |
| 19:33.15 | moniker326 | won't show the folder |
| 19:33.37 | moniker326 | shows fine just as www.domain.com/billing |
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| 19:36.45 | holmgren | This is confusing. Can you contact www.domain.com (it would probably help if you didn't obfuscate that bit) from the server? |
| 19:37.12 | holmgren | Isn't it the same server? |
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| 19:37.50 | moniker326 | sorry just not trying to give out the name |
| 19:38.01 | moniker326 | it's a multi-site server |
| 19:38.16 | holmgren | subdomain.domain.com doesn't occur in the config. |
| 19:38.29 | moniker326 | sorry |
| 19:38.42 | moniker326 | it's customers.domain.com |
| 19:38.46 | holmgren | Why would you want to use ProxyPass to the same server? |
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| 19:39.04 | Woet | why doesn't you just set a DocumentRoot for that subdomain? |
| 19:39.15 | moniker326 | I'm new to all this |
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| 19:40.17 | moniker326 | was just following what last admin had done on another site |
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| 19:40.52 | Woet | moniker326: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#documentroot and join #httpd |
| 19:40.54 | holmgren | Seems that you could set DocumentRoot to /home/domain/public_html/billing or similar. |
| 19:41.13 | moniker326 | ok |
| 19:41.16 | Woet | fuck previous sysadmins |
| 19:41.16 | Woet | :) |
| 19:41.26 | babilen | +1 |
| 19:41.26 | Woet | they suck, else you wouldn't be doing their job |
| 19:41.27 | moniker326 | I don't like the moderator for httpd |
| 19:41.37 | ompaul | breaking stuff is not the qay forward |
| 19:41.44 | ompaul | s/qay/way |
| 19:41.49 | Woet | it most often is, ompaul |
| 19:41.56 | Woet | breaking the wrong way and building it the right way |
| 19:41.57 | ompaul | Woet: replacement is the right way |
| 19:42.03 | Woet | e.g, breaking proxypass and adding documenroot :) |
| 19:42.19 | moniker326 | learning sometimes takes breaking :D |
| 19:42.21 | ompaul | one wonders why it was built like that --- |
| 19:42.28 | moniker326 | as long as you kept the original it's ok :D |
| 19:43.26 | moniker326 | where would I add DocumentRoot? Under :80 or :443 vitualhost? I'm assuming :443 |
| 19:44.14 | Woet | moniker326: #httpd - regardless of your reasoning not to use it |
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| 19:45.16 | moniker326 | gonna have to use another name them ;) |
| 19:46.36 | moniker326 | he's always banning people cause he's not nice but expects everyone to kiss his ass and know where to go but everyone sends them to there in my months in there he banned at least one a day if not more |
| 19:46.58 | moniker326 | quit asking questions cause I 'couldn't ask them right' in his book |
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| 19:57.10 | daedaluz | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy is this true? KDE in Wheezy being 4.6? |
| 19:58.41 | ansgar | daedaluz: Right now, yes. |
| 19:59.02 | daedaluz | ansgar: but testing isn't in freeze yet, right? |
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| 20:00.41 | ansgar | daedaluz: No, it's not. The freeze is planned for next year. |
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| 20:01.30 | daedaluz | k. just thought that having 4.6 is ridiculous if freeze starts after 4.8 is out. |
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| 20:13.52 | treebeen | free as in beer? ;) |
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| 20:16.31 | treebeen | i have trouble with nfs via pxe, when i try to use nfsroot it will tell me "nfs over tcp" not available, although I *can* mount the same share from a normal client with tcp, on some occasions it's possible to use nfsopts=-oudp and then it will work, but that argument is often not accepted... |
| 20:16.47 | craigevil | saac, electronic or hard copy format? there are several e-magazines, http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ , fedora and pclinuxos also have one |
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| 20:21.13 | Bop | how do i re-run /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 20:24.32 | Odaym | I'm on Squeeze, and a lot of the times i lose sound suddenly |
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| 20:24.49 | Odaym | sound was never a problem with any of the other distros I've used before |
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| 20:26.13 | treebeen | Bop: /etc/init.d/networking stop/start |
| 20:26.32 | treebeen | Odaym: one the same machine? |
| 20:26.44 | Odaym | yes |
| 20:26.50 | Odaym | it's so random the way it happens |
| 20:27.23 | craigevil | Odaym, using Pulse-audio ? |
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| 20:27.33 | Odaym | I don't know |
| 20:27.44 | Odaym | how would I know? |
| 20:27.49 | Odaym | lspci | grep... what |
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| 20:30.52 | Odaym | no idea either? |
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| 20:44.49 | besson3c | Does anybody know why in Ubuntu's virt-manager I can change the storage format of disks in the VM config GUI, whereas in Debian's I can't? I'm also unclear as to how to present my bridged network which I've created to KVM/libvirt? |
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| 20:49.21 | Nikyo | Hi |
| 20:50.11 | besson3c | hi |
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| 20:52.41 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, hi |
| 20:52.50 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, how are things going on? |
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| 20:53.46 | SoloGaijin | got sidetracked but now back at a clean install from CD1 with CLI only |
| 20:54.03 | SoloGaijin | going to work on installing lxde I think |
| 20:54.40 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, hm, maybe the lxde will also give you a proper networkmanager |
| 20:54.56 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, i don't know the dependencies |
| 20:56.09 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, here you will find the lxde system requirements http://lxde.org/lxde |
| 20:56.11 | SoloGaijin | how do you run things as su besides doing su - and running as root? |
| 20:56.33 | Nikyo | sudo -i |
| 20:56.34 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, you can do sudo -i that will give you a root shell |
| 20:56.47 | SoloGaijin | nice I meet those requirements |
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| 20:57.00 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, how much ram do you have left? |
| 20:57.14 | SoloGaijin | top says 176MB free |
| 20:57.22 | SoloGaijin | out of 256 |
| 20:57.23 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, use the command top or better htop to see the how much RAM and CPU you are currently using |
| 20:57.37 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, nice |
| 20:58.03 | SoloGaijin | when I do aptitude install is there a way to have it look on the CD? its not finding htop or lxde when I do apititude install |
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| 20:58.28 | wols | yes there is. apt-cdrom. but are you sure lxde is on that cd? |
| 20:58.30 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, you have to add the cd to the sources.list |
| 20:58.35 | SoloGaijin | no im not sure at all |
| 20:58.38 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, ah, listen to wols |
| 20:59.26 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, if you ask me, your Nr.1 priority should be to get internet access on your laptop |
| 20:59.28 | wols | SoloGaijin: grep -r cdrom /etc/apt/ |
| 20:59.36 | braveone | can someone tell me the best way to build a custom debian install with only the tools that are needed |
| 21:00.06 | Benkinooby | braveone, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
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| 21:00.26 | wols | braveone: install from netinst. don't install anything via tasksel. disable recommends. install any package you think you need.done |
| 21:00.45 | treebeen | besson3c: i remember from RHEL6 that i wasn't able to select the virtio driver up vm creation, but I could change it after I had created the config |
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| 21:00.54 | braveone | humm |
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| 21:01.00 | treebeen | s/up/upon |
| 21:01.07 | braveone | i think i will need the cd version |
| 21:01.15 | braveone | thanks toy benkinooby and wols |
| 21:01.15 | Benkinooby | braveone, oh, sorry, forget my comment, i miss-read your request |
| 21:01.37 | braveone | so |
| 21:01.41 | Benkinooby | braveone, all credits to wols |
| 21:01.42 | wols | braveone: why do you need a cd version? which cd version? |
| 21:01.43 | braveone | what if i want media |
| 21:01.55 | besson3c | treebeen: yeah, I'm sure I can do it that way tooĆ¢ĀĀ¦ I'm just confused as to why the version number of virt-manager in both Debian and Ubuntu is identical, but there are several GUI differences? |
| 21:02.12 | braveone | my goal is to build a super small version of debian with a custom kernel |
| 21:02.15 | wols | define "media". what you actually want is very hard to understand. |
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| 21:02.36 | wols | braveone: and? |
| 21:02.53 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, so you don't have ethernet on your laptop... only that wireless pcmi-card? |
| 21:02.59 | SoloGaijin | yeah |
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| 21:03.21 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, hm, can you give me the output of "uname -a" |
| 21:03.37 | braveone | i would like to be able to install it from a cd |
| 21:03.42 | Nikyo | braveone: I'm running Debian 6 on a Pentium 3 @ 450 mhz and 256 mb of memory with a 10 gb hard drive. Thats small. :-) |
| 21:03.43 | SoloGaijin | linux 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 21:03.44 | treebeen | besson3c: not sure, maybe the ubuntu version has it fixed? it's probably a bug |
| 21:03.53 | braveone | and being able to net install would be great too |
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| 21:04.10 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, hm, that didn't work... can you tell me what version of debian you use? |
| 21:04.22 | SoloGaijin | 6.0.2.1 |
| 21:04.26 | SoloGaijin | grabbed CD1 |
| 21:04.39 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, use "more /etc/debian_version" |
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| 21:05.08 | wols | braveone: you need to decide what you want: a debian installation or a debian custom cd |
| 21:05.33 | SoloGaijin | output is + |
| 21:05.36 | SoloGaijin | errr: 6.0.2 |
| 21:05.40 | braveone | wols do you mind if i pm you |
| 21:05.44 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, ok |
| 21:05.50 | wols | yes |
| 21:06.44 | braveone | what are the pros and cons of each wols? |
| 21:06.53 | besson3c | treebeen: several substantial GUI differences are bugs? |
| 21:07.03 | wols | braveone: there is no pros and cons. it's: what do you want to do? |
| 21:07.24 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, ok, see... this here is the site for the wicd packagae for debian sqeeze http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/wicd-cli |
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| 21:07.28 | wols | Benkinooby: why do you suggest for him to get wicd? |
| 21:07.46 | wols | and from pdo of all places? |
| 21:07.59 | braveone | i want to be able to deploy a very lightweight distro with select software and a custom kernel |
| 21:08.24 | wols | braveone: single install or for lots of installs? |
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| 21:08.55 | Benkinooby | wols, SoloGaijin because it is the most painless and fastest way to connect to a wireless network. i tried to do it manually once with wpaclient and iwconfig and stuff, but it was really painfull. i think as soon as he has a reliable internet connection he still can toy around with wpa_client |
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| 21:09.21 | SoloGaijin | apt-cdrom add should make the files in cdrom avail to apt-get install? |
| 21:09.26 | wols | Benkinooby: wrong. if you have to install it via pdo it's anything but painless |
| 21:09.39 | Benkinooby | wols, pdo? |
| 21:09.48 | braveone | lots of installs wols |
| 21:09.49 | wols | Benkinooby: and wpasupplicant is dead easy: 3 lines in interfaces |
| 21:10.07 | wols | braveone: then you want the link Benkinooby gave you |
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| 21:10.18 | braveone | ahh |
| 21:10.19 | braveone | ok |
| 21:10.23 | braveone | thank you |
| 21:10.47 | wols | !tell Benkinooby about pdo |
| 21:10.51 | Benkinooby | wols, i never figured out these 3 lines for me |
| 21:11.41 | wols | Benkinooby: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK see 3. |
| 21:12.55 | Benkinooby | wols Oo ... i would have killed for that link some time ago :P |
| 21:13.41 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, check out the link wols gave me http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK and try it before listening to my wicd stuff |
| 21:14.23 | wols | SoloGaijin: you were told all this actually before. you still need to install wpasupplicant and wireless-tools from your CD |
| 21:14.27 | sveinse | Anyone with knowledge of upstart here? |
| 21:14.52 | sveinse | When changing runlevels in with upstart, how is start and stop ordering handled? E.g. if I'm in runlevel 2 and enters level 3, will the "stop on runlevel [!2]" services stop before the "start on runlevel [3]" are started? |
| 21:15.17 | wols | sveinse: what debian versions do you run? |
| 21:15.21 | sveinse | natty |
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| 21:15.30 | wols | sveinse: please ask in #ubuntu |
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| 21:16.03 | sveinse | wols: Oh, sorry. I crossed my eyes |
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| 21:16.49 | boudiccas | sveinse; we only support debian, and not ubuntu, sorry but its a fact |
| 21:16.54 | SoloGaijin | wpa_supplicant is already installed |
| 21:17.20 | wols | SoloGaijin: iwconfig shows your wlan working? |
| 21:17.23 | sveinse | Yeah, I'm sorry guys. Didn't mean to post it here. |
| 21:17.38 | wols | sveinse: np |
| 21:17.42 | boudiccas | sveinse; but we're not all guys, i'm not, i'm female |
| 21:17.59 | SoloGaijin | no wols I was editing my interfaces file as per that document |
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| 21:19.05 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, what interfaces are shown if you do "ifconfig" ? |
| 21:19.16 | SoloGaijin | lo |
| 21:19.22 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, nothing else? |
| 21:19.26 | SoloGaijin | negative |
| 21:19.29 | sveinse | boudiccas: That's good to hear! I guess "guys" are a result of that old cultural term of everyone (from the days where women were suppressed) |
| 21:19.30 | Benkinooby | :( |
| 21:19.42 | Benkinooby | but you see the card with lspci? |
| 21:19.46 | wols | SoloGaijin: I asked you something |
| 21:19.51 | SoloGaijin | yep |
| 21:19.56 | wols | Benkinooby: what "ifconfig" shows is irrelevant |
| 21:19.59 | boudiccas | sveinse; its an americanism, a cheap get out |
| 21:20.03 | SoloGaijin | hmmm, it actually does wols |
| 21:20.04 | wols | Benkinooby: it' snormal it shows nothing |
| 21:20.17 | wols | boudiccas: please take your feminism elsewhere. thank you |
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| 21:20.30 | Benkinooby | wols, ok |
| 21:20.56 | jhutchins_lt | Is the dependency booting in squeeze done by upstart or does Debian have it's own method? |
| 21:21.03 | wols | jhutchins_lt: it's own |
| 21:21.12 | jhutchins_lt | That's what I thought. |
| 21:21.13 | SoloGaijin | so if its showing up in iwconfig, configuring the interfaces file should be enough right wols ? |
| 21:21.16 | wols | afaik you can install upstart. now clue how good it works |
| 21:21.47 | jhutchins_lt | I fail to see the point in a twelve-second boot if it takes over ninety seconds to load the desktop after login. |
| 21:22.05 | wols | jhutchins_lt: windows does it so it must be good |
| 21:22.26 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: insserv is not Debian's, but it's not upstart either |
| 21:22.35 | jhutchins_lt | I have a G4 mac book, and it's about twenty seconds from login to full desktop. |
| 21:23.01 | jhutchins_lt | Somebody should give the KDE developers a mac. |
| 21:23.18 | SoloGaijin | nice, works out of the box wols / Benkinooby |
| 21:23.27 | SoloGaijin | just had to use that wpa_supplicant config link =) |
| 21:23.34 | wols | jhutchins_lt: why? they already have enough IBM PC compatibles. no need for them to get another one :) |
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| 21:23.57 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, good to hear... since wols seems to have sent it first all credits to him |
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| 21:24.09 | SoloGaijin | yeah but you both have been very helpful |
| 21:24.12 | SoloGaijin | heh |
| 21:24.16 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, i think now that you have internet on your laptop things should get easier |
| 21:24.20 | jhutchins_lt | wols: So they can figure out how OSX loads the desktop in 20 seconds. |
| 21:24.32 | SoloGaijin | yeah I hope so |
| 21:24.42 | jhutchins_lt | wols: That's on 2005 hardware. |
| 21:25.24 | wols | !tell SoloGaijin about squeezes sources.list |
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| 21:27.08 | Benkinooby | wols, thanks... i learned something today |
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| 21:27.28 | DexterF | hi |
| 21:27.33 | dvs | allo |
| 21:28.50 | DexterF | I'd like to netcat a partition to a backup server. so I use cat <dev> | nc -l <port> on the send side and nc <sending_ip> <port> >backupfile on the receiver |
| 21:29.05 | DexterF | but nc on the recv. side immediately exits. no firewalls in the way. |
| 21:29.14 | DexterF | help? |
| 21:30.09 | DexterF | i put pv -b in the pipe, sender says "64k" and waits, receiver says "0 k" and exits. seems it does not get the stream. but why. |
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| 21:36.22 | Agiofws | hey |
| 21:36.22 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.24 | DexterF | solved. made the recv listen and then let the sender build the connection. |
| 21:36.27 | Agiofws | ^^ anyone know what going on ? |
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| 21:36.48 | DexterF | Agiofws: some python -dev package missing? |
| 21:37.03 | DexterF | what gives that error? |
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| 21:37.18 | Miki-Mobile | hi |
| 21:37.54 | Nikyo | hi |
| 21:38.01 | tharkun | thewanderer1: I'm taking a look at grsescurity thanks for the extra option :) |
| 21:38.02 | Agiofws | compiling cycles on debian |
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| 21:40.12 | SoloGaijin | any idea why even though I have a net connection aptitude install wireless-tools / aptitude install lxde comes back with no packages found? |
| 21:40.34 | SoloGaijin | did update/upgrade |
| 21:40.57 | jhutchins_lt | SoloGaijin: bad sources.list? Pastebin it. |
| 21:41.21 | SoloGaijin | kinda hard im on cli only atm |
| 21:41.47 | tharkun | SoloGaijin: also if you are running from a utf8 client to a non utf8 client you might have some unseen characters |
| 21:41.49 | SoloGaijin | when I do aptitude update its showing the cdrom I have in the drive though - did apt-cdrom change where its looking? |
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| 21:42.22 | alesan | hi. I will need to do 'netinstall' for several devices I have here at the office |
| 21:42.35 | tharkun | SoloGaijin: enter the aptitude interactive shell and search within it for the package. It should make life easier on your |
| 21:42.36 | alesan | I was wondering if I could "mirror" the debian repo here on my machine so it's faster |
| 21:42.50 | alesan | it does not make any sense to waste bandwidth N times |
| 21:42.50 | tharkun | alesan: apt-cacher-ng |
| 21:43.02 | Agiofws | does squeeze include python 3.2 ? |
| 21:43.14 | alesan | tharkun, if I type that it will download a debian mirror? |
| 21:43.19 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/167731 |
| 21:43.31 | alesan | tharkun, I need ARMEL architecture |
| 21:43.36 | babilen | Agiofws: it does not |
| 21:43.49 | Agiofws | how can i install it ? |
| 21:43.56 | tharkun | !tell alesan about apt-cacher-ng |
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| 21:44.26 | babilen | Agiofws: download from upstream, compile, install to /usr/local and use virtualenv+virtualenvwrapper+pip for package installations. |
| 21:44.49 | Agiofws | what is a irtualenv+virtualenvwrapper+pip |
| 21:44.50 | tharkun | it will serve all your debian machines and some derivatives also that use the debian repo layout |
| 21:44.54 | Agiofws | *v |
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| 21:45.16 | babilen | Agiofws: Three distinct tools/script that are very nice if you are doing python development. |
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| 21:51.18 | SoloGaijin | I had to unedit the sources in my sources.list, I think because I had no network when I installed it commented them out |
| 21:51.38 | Benkinooby | hm, could be a reason |
| 21:51.53 | dvs | unedit? |
| 21:52.09 | Benkinooby | dvs, put it back to original state |
| 21:52.10 | babilen | uncomment? |
| 21:52.26 | SoloGaijin | yeah uncomment, sorry |
| 21:52.27 | babilen | undo? restore? |
| 21:52.30 | dvs | ah |
| 21:53.02 | dvs | Benkinooby: So, you have a network connection now? |
| 21:53.36 | Benkinooby | dvs, oh, i was jsut answering your "unedit"? |
| 21:53.47 | alesan | tharkun, do you know where apt-cacher keeps its stuff? |
| 21:54.06 | dvs | Benkinooby: yes, just asking if your network is working now. |
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| 21:54.12 | SoloGaijin | still not able to install lxde per: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Debian |
| 21:54.24 | tharkun | alesan: it is fully configurable IIRC the default place is on the man page |
| 21:54.45 | Benkinooby | dvs, it is... |
| 21:54.53 | Benkinooby | dvs, i never complained... |
| 21:55.01 | alesan | tharkun, do you think it is /var/cache ? |
| 21:55.13 | wols | SoloGaijin: what error do you get? |
| 21:55.22 | SoloGaijin | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "lxde" |
| 21:55.23 | Benkinooby | dvs, maybe you were refring to my discussion with wols about wicd vs. wpa_client... |
| 21:55.27 | dvs | Benkinooby: Ah I see, so uncommenting the file restored the package manager |
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| 21:55.34 | wols | !tell SoloGaijin about squeeze sources.list |
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| 21:55.38 | tharkun | alesan: /var/cache/ holds usually what apt-get has downloaded to install on your system |
| 21:55.48 | Benkinooby | !sources.list |
| 21:55.49 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
| 21:55.54 | wols | SoloGaijin: add the proper squeeze repo (main mostly) and it will work fine |
| 21:56.25 | tharkun | alesan: /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng/ |
| 21:56.57 | alesan | thanks! |
| 21:57.22 | tharkun | np, gl |
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| 21:57.45 | alesan | tharkun, I am trying to "port" debian on my board and I may make mistakes that I need to reinstall several times |
| 21:57.53 | alesan | this will hopefully speedup things |
| 21:58.32 | tharkun | alesan: a full blown gnome install over a 100Mb network with 100Mb nics takes 2 minutes to download and 72 to install :) |
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| 21:58.49 | alesan | well |
| 21:58.57 | alesan | we will see |
| 21:59.12 | SoloGaijin | go figure, I was missing: deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main |
| 21:59.16 | alesan | but if I also have to download on a relatively slow link... I tihnk we have 6Mbps here |
| 21:59.23 | SoloGaijin | why wouldnt that be included by default, a main source? |
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| 21:59.35 | tharkun | alesan: expect your download time to be reduced a lot. Your instalation time will not be touched at all |
| 21:59.51 | alesan | installatoin time includes download time |
| 22:00.35 | SoloGaijin | sweet, installing lxde as we speak |
| 22:00.36 | tharkun | alesan: no i like to distinguish them as two seperate entities |
| 22:00.58 | alesan | when using the netinstall initrd the two things are indistinguishable |
| 22:01.34 | alesan | in any case |
| 22:01.38 | alesan | it seems it's working |
| 22:01.41 | alesan | thanks! |
| 22:02.04 | tharkun | alesan: the overall time will be improved a lot :-) |
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| 22:02.23 | dvs | SoloGaijin: It would, if you installed with a network connection. |
| 22:02.31 | alesan | yes thanks |
| 22:02.32 | alesan | bye |
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| 22:03.29 | Benkinooby | SoloGaijin, nice :D |
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| 22:11.54 | Benkinooby | wols, thanks again for your time & efforts |
| 22:12.00 | dvs | np |
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| 22:12.39 | Benkinooby | puts http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK to his bookmarks |
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| 22:13.02 | sveinse | If you have a debian source package which generates multiple binary packages, is there a way to call dpkg-buildpackage to build only one of them? |
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| 22:14.45 | an0 | The root of my debian system is /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 which apparently means I have a RAID1 array (didn't realize the drives were configured that way until now). I have 3 drives and no need for the array. Is it possible to free two of the drives and remove the array without losing data? |
| 22:14.52 | an0 | Or even freeing one drive from the array? |
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| 22:17.25 | tharkun | sveinse: you actually build the bunch together and install only the one you are missing |
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| 22:18.32 | tharkun | an0: IIRC that is hw raid so you might be able to do it on the server bios |
| 22:18.45 | tharkun | an0: totally hw dependent |
| 22:18.49 | tharkun | !cciss |
| 22:19.09 | sveinse | tharkun: Ok. No way to separate them? I just need test a small one out of many much larger.. |
| 22:19.25 | an0 | Hm. Okay, it is an HP ProLiant server. If I disable the RAID array and set.. say drive 1 to be the first boot device, debian won't freak out? |
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| 22:20.19 | tharkun | sveinse: to do that it would take hours of hacking debian/rules, when there is really no need for that |
| 22:20.59 | sveinse | tharkun: ok, thanks |
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| 22:21.43 | tharkun | an0: Debian won't freak, real question is if the hdd that will boot debian has everything on it |
| 22:22.07 | an0 | Right. |
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| 22:23.48 | bernhard1 | any clue how to fix this .. EXT4-fs (dm-0): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem |
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| 22:24.17 | bernhard1 | dm-0 /dev/root |
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| 22:27.33 | kerframil | bernhard1: the journal needed replaying before the usual point at which the filesystem is mounted r/w. I wouldn't worry about it unless you keep seeing this message as it suggests that it wasn't unmounted cleanly prior. |
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| 22:28.30 | kerframil | bernhard1: it should be followed by a message saying that write access is enabled for the scope of the recovery process |
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| 22:28.41 | DeM0nFiRe | Hello |
| 22:29.00 | bernhard1 | <kerframil> this is my problem.. installed ubuntu server 11.4.. but when it is shut down it says it is not cleanly unmounted.. then.. when i boot i get this error. mountall: fsck /boot{344} terminated with status 1 then.. about 50 lines.. cannot write bytes: broken pipe when i fix the errors with knoppix cd after one or two reboots i have the same error. This is my syslog ? http://pastebi |
| 22:29.01 | bernhard1 | n.com/4wRJdULM It seem to be filesystem errors: repare the disk with: fsck /dev/sda1 output: /dev/sda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. check disk after repair: fsck /dev/sda1 echo $? output: /dev/sda: clean After the next reboot i start with the same errors.. mountall: fsck /boot{344} terminated with status 1 then.. about 50 lines.. cannot write bytes: broken pipe. Any idears ?? |
| 22:29.15 | DeM0nFiRe | I am wondering, in the "Additional Software" step of the netinst install, what is in the "Laptop" selection? |
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| 22:29.56 | petemc | DeM0nFiRe: /msg dpkg laptop task |
| 22:30.17 | DeM0nFiRe | Thanks petemc |
| 22:30.21 | petemc | np |
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| 22:33.13 | lmarcetic | is there a way to mount directory foo/bar in the place of foo given default user privileges and default fstab (mounting by root only)? |
| 22:33.54 | Bushmills | bernhard1: does that error only show with ubuntu, or also when you shut down debian? |
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| 22:34.40 | yagoo | lmarcetic, u asking if u can do a 2nd mountpoint from same path? |
| 22:35.15 | yagoo | lmarcetic, (if so asking.. then u can.. but usually that's not done) |
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| 22:35.57 | lmarcetic | yagoo, not sure what you mean, so i'll put it simply: i want to superseed one directory with the another('s contents). i believe this is default mount behavior on GNU/Linux, but don't know how to do it with non-uid=0 and without changing fstab. |
| 22:36.37 | yagoo | lmarcetic, you mean you're trying to unify contents? you'd need to do a union mount. |
| 22:36.38 | lmarcetic | (in contrast, some mounts merge directory contents) |
| 22:37.11 | lmarcetic | yagoo, no, supersede. as in exchange until unmount. |
| 22:37.14 | yagoo | lmarcetic, that cant be done with any other mountpoint driver. (the contents won't be deleted from the native host, they just won't show up when that path is mounted) |
| 22:37.30 | lmarcetic | that's what i want, yes |
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| 22:37.59 | yagoo | lmarcetic, what is it you want? A or B(B meaning->the contents won't be deleted from the native host, they just won't show up when that path is mounted))) |
| 22:38.38 | yagoo | check unionfs.. I'm guessing you want union mount |
| 22:38.48 | lmarcetic | yagoo, B |
| 22:38.58 | yagoo | oh b.. |
| 22:39.30 | yagoo | dunno then what you're asking then.. that occurs naturally with any mountpoint (this is not a merge) |
| 22:39.33 | lmarcetic | yagoo, look. B has a file b in it. A has a file a. i <do the thing>, et voila. B only shows a. i <undo the thing>, et voila, all is back to normal |
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| 22:39.57 | lmarcetic | yagoo, i'm asking for a way that a normal user could do it, without being enabled to do it in the fstab. |
| 22:40.11 | lmarcetic | yagoo, ie without changing default fstab settings |
| 22:40.13 | yagoo | you're speaking babbles.. |
| 22:40.35 | yagoo | you can't overmount a mountpoint. |
| 22:40.55 | yagoo | what's something is mounted on that path "/path", something can't overtake "/path" as a mountpoint |
| 22:41.06 | yagoo | "once" something is mounted on that path "/path", something can't overtake "/path" as a mountpoint |
| 22:41.08 | yagoo | ^. |
| 22:41.21 | lmarcetic | yagoo, |
| 22:41.22 | lmarcetic | mount A/ B/ |
| 22:41.22 | lmarcetic | mount: only root can do that |
| 22:41.29 | yagoo | ? |
| 22:41.40 | lmarcetic | geez, are you trolling me? |
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| 22:41.46 | yagoo | read again. |
| 22:41.55 | yagoo | you can't overmount a mountpoint. |
| 22:42.41 | Bushmills | lmarcetic: use symbolic links. point to one, or another directory |
| 22:43.40 | Bushmills | ln -sf A B ; ln -sf where_b_is B for the two "modes" |
| 22:43.43 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, I wish B was a real directory :-/ |
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| 22:44.27 | Bushmills | mount --bind |
| 22:44.51 | lmarcetic | yagoo, mount --bind A/ B/ |
| 22:44.56 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, oh sry |
| 22:45.06 | yagoo | well if that's what he wants.. |
| 22:45.15 | lmarcetic | yagoo, *non-root* |
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| 22:45.39 | Bushmills | pmount |
| 22:45.46 | yagoo | dunno, maybe a setsuid on a script that does it |
| 22:46.03 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, not installed by default it seems |
| 22:46.09 | Bushmills | and so? |
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| 22:46.38 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, as i've said already, i'm hoping for a solution that would work on a "default" install |
| 22:46.41 | yagoo | I don't see that pratical, but only a security issue |
| 22:46.56 | Bushmills | "by default" is probably not even debian installed |
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| 22:48.11 | lmarcetic | yagoo, i guess you're right... |
| 22:48.53 | Bushmills | as during install choices are already made, i don't even know what a "default install" is. even before - what installer one uses affects what gets installed |
| 22:48.55 | lmarcetic | yagoo, actually, since you can rm -rf your dirs, why not just mount over |
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| 22:49.24 | yagoo | lmarcetic, maybe yuo should tell the channel what application you want your users to use |
| 22:49.58 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, well it's not mount, it's not pmount, and (because of a different effect) it's not ln. |
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| 22:52.08 | lmarcetic | yagoo, i want to make a desktop switcher in the true sense of the word. the app would have profiles, and depending on your current virtual desktop, you would see different files on it (just like you have different tabs open). so you could have a: "C programming desktop", a "Fun desktop", and a "Study desktop". |
| 22:52.39 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, granted, this would work via ln, but i'd like a "default" desktop to be contents of Desktop/ |
| 22:52.42 | Bushmills | and you "wish" it to be real directories and not symlinks |
| 22:53.31 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, as i've said... |
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| 22:54.22 | Bushmills | and probably no editing of config files - as that would mean the system isn't "default" any longer |
| 22:54.47 | Bushmills | you could swap hard disks |
| 22:56.22 | yagoo | lmarcetic, how long you been using linux? there's many ways of doing what you want.. you dont even need mountpoints for that |
| 22:56.54 | lmarcetic | yagoo, ~5 years |
| 22:57.07 | yagoo | is this a kiosk? |
| 22:57.10 | lmarcetic | yagoo, if there is (for the set constrains), i'm all ears still. |
| 22:57.32 | lmarcetic | yagoo, no. it's just something i don't want to have a lot of dependencies. |
| 22:57.43 | yagoo | good luck |
| 22:58.02 | yagoo | seems like you've been using linux for 5 days. :// needless to say I have no idea what you want.. |
| 22:58.05 | lmarcetic | yagoo, you sounded like you know "many ways" of doing what i want |
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| 23:01.38 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, thanks for trying to help. As there seems to be no convenient alternative, I may go with symlinks. Btw. I was also surprised that pmount isn't preinstalled.. |
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| 23:03.35 | Bushmills | lmarcetic: why should it, if it can be easily installed when needed? |
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| 23:05.01 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, for the reasons it was made (add to the description: "and directories") |
| 23:05.48 | Bushmills | others way complain that there's no windows emulator installed by default |
| 23:05.52 | Bushmills | may |
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| 23:06.29 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, I really don't think mounting over own directories is asking too much |
| 23:06.53 | lmarcetic | *being able to, by default |
| 23:06.55 | Bushmills | askng too much from who? |
| 23:07.38 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, from the config team I guess. Maybe LaMont Jones |
| 23:07.40 | Bushmills | you can mount over directories containing stuff. you can't mount afaik over directories which already serve as mountpoint |
| 23:07.41 | tmi92 | how do I get the SSl certs to use more than one port on 443? |
| 23:08.07 | tmi92 | got one installed ok but then they all want to see that one instead of using the correct one for that site |
| 23:08.09 | Bushmills | lmarcetic: feel free to join them and get your ideas through |
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| 23:08.30 | Bushmills | i don't think that's asking too much :) |
| 23:09.00 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, you can't mount over dirs without root as it is. <-- period |
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| 23:09.11 | Bushmills | you can |
| 23:09.30 | Bushmills | unless you refuse to edit config files, of course. |
| 23:09.31 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, my B dir is no mountpoint |
| 23:09.44 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, can a regular user edit those config files you speak of? |
| 23:09.56 | tmi92 | lmarcetic, you can CHOOSE your own mount point |
| 23:10.01 | Bushmills | it's not a mount point as long nothing is mounted there |
| 23:10.08 | yagoo | Bushmills, he's way to smart for us. He already has Z1 dir all over the drive. |
| 23:10.12 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, nothing is mounted in B/ |
| 23:10.27 | Bushmills | because you didn't mount anything there |
| 23:10.39 | tmi92 | +1 bushmills |
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| 23:11.23 | yagoo | lmarcetic, maybe you should ask in #linux.. this is very trivial |
| 23:11.52 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, http://paste.debian.net/126127/ |
| 23:12.04 | lmarcetic | yagoo, quit trying to provoke me |
| 23:12.21 | tmi92 | lmarcetic, use sudo |
| 23:12.30 | Bushmills | pmount is for exactly that purpose, allowing users to mount without being root - which you refuse to use because it isn't "default" |
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| 23:12.56 | Bushmills | "default" is root setting up the config to allow users to mount |
| 23:13.04 | yagoo | notices lmarcetic's native language is not english |
| 23:13.04 | tmi92 | +1 bushmills - I didn't know that one |
| 23:13.09 | Bushmills | so go for that, if "default" is important to you |
| 23:13.10 | ompaul | lmarcetic: if you buy a car and have a flat wheel do you not change it because it was not installed by default? |
| 23:13.14 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, because it isn't installed on the end-user's computer, and I can't make him. If I were to make a .deb, it would be no problem. But this ought to be a simple script. |
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| 23:13.48 | yagoo | lmarcetic, now you're talking scripts. As I said there's many ways.. this is very non-debian.. there's more audience about this on #linux that can help you.. |
| 23:14.05 | ompaul | lmarcetic: apt-get install pmount what else do you want? |
| 23:14.11 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, well I'm thinking about that now. I maintain that the answer would be: Let the user mount over his/her own dirs if he/she wants to. |
| 23:14.14 | Bushmills | "If I were to make a .deb.." ?? why would *you* need to make a deb? |
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| 23:14.21 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, *correct answer |
| 23:14.23 | tmi92 | yeah, now it went way off what he was originally asking |
| 23:14.23 | ompaul | there is one there |
| 23:14.33 | tmi92 | now he's talking about installing a script |
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| 23:14.41 | ompaul | there is a fee for walking across the bridge |
| 23:14.58 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, to autoinstall the dependency. But your question is valid in this case: It should be installed already. :-P |
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| 23:15.47 | tmi92 | lmarcetic, not true, it depends on teh script you're installing, many times you need to create dirs for the scripts to work and change permissions because they don't create them 'automatically' |
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| 23:16.01 | Bushmills | well. some preceived problems appear to be purely artificial |
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| 23:16.23 | Bushmills | perceived... |
| 23:16.36 | yagoo | Bushmills, this is not a debian problem.. |
| 23:16.45 | ompaul | then why is it in #debian |
| 23:16.55 | ompaul | checks the channel name |
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| 23:17.02 | ompaul | yeap this is #debian |
| 23:17.02 | lmarcetic | tmi92, I beg to differ. All "default" (for the package) settings, are set automatically. This includes all root-requiring changes (such as editing conf, adding binaries to /usr/bin, documentation, and all kinds of other directories). |
| 23:17.17 | tmi92 | yeah he needs to head to the script forums or irc channel |
| 23:17.28 | tmi92 | what script are you installing, lmarcetic? |
| 23:17.43 | ompaul | lmarcetic: there is a package already called pmount install it be done with it and stop wasting your oxygen, you have more important things to do I guess |
| 23:17.59 | Bushmills | wonders whether a system where a user has mounted anything is still a "default" system |
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| 23:18.08 | lmarcetic | tmi92, you cut in on the bashing a bit too late. don't have a grip on things i see. |
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| 23:19.10 | lmarcetic | ompaul, yeah. i guess. theoretically, i should ask for uid=0 perms, and then auto-install it. but i really really wish i didn't have to. |
| 23:19.22 | yagoo | smells troll |
| 23:19.30 | lmarcetic | yagoo, shower then |
| 23:19.33 | tmi92 | lmarcetic, not bashing I'm just trying to find out what you're trying to install, other than just a drive.... you talk about two separate things, mounting a dir and installing a script, those a two very different issues altogether |
| 23:19.34 | ompaul | yagoo: I did say fee and bridge a while ago |
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| 23:21.34 | tmi92 | anyone help with multiple ssls on one port 443?? |
| 23:21.37 | lmarcetic | tmi92, thanks for trying to help. i've discussed this matter for quite some time now. i don't want to restate my question, no hard feelings. |
| 23:22.01 | tmi92 | no biggie |
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| 23:22.06 | tmi92 | I just joined anyways |
| 23:22.35 | ompaul | [TZ:33:13] <lmarcetic> is there a way to mount directory foo/bar in the place of foo given default user privileges and default fstab (mounting by root only)? <<< looks like I want to read someone elses directory |
| 23:23.23 | lmarcetic | ompaul, then you missed numerous explanations |
| 23:24.02 | tmi92 | well I think that's why people are trying to get clarification from you lmarcetic... |
| 23:24.02 | ompaul | lmarcetic: I have been popping though your stuff - your use case is unclear after an hour during which I installed kde SID on a laptop from scratch |
| 23:24.12 | ompaul | just saying |
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| 23:24.57 | tmi92 | you should be lucky they've spent this much time on you, I don't even get that many questions from most of these guys... ;) just sayin..... heh |
| 23:25.03 | ompaul | over crummy dsl I might add |
| 23:25.13 | dvs | ompaul: uphill? both ways? ;-) |
| 23:25.14 | lmarcetic | ompaul, lmarcetic> yagoo, i want to make a desktop switcher in the true sense of the word. the app would have profiles, and depending on your current virtual desktop, you would see different files on it (just like you have different tabs open). so you could have a: "C programming desktop", a "Fun desktop", and a "Study desktop". |
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| 23:25.28 | lmarcetic | ompaul, what's unclear there? |
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| 23:25.45 | alesan | hi! I have finished the installaton of ARMEL Debian on my board |
| 23:26.00 | alesan | this is the first boot... last message is "Starting periodic command scheduler: crond." |
| 23:26.00 | Bushmills | mounts his dir with doctored executables into lmarcetic's /usr/sbin with his modified mount-which-allows-mounting-over-dirs-without-root |
| 23:26.08 | alesan | than it stays there... it's several minutes now |
| 23:26.09 | lmarcetic | tmi92, i guess. if it wasn't trolling. :-/ |
| 23:26.17 | alesan | any idea when I will get a login prompt? |
| 23:26.25 | lmarcetic | BarthezZ, you're one fake root, yaknow that? |
| 23:26.45 | lmarcetic | enjoy your sandbox ;-) |
| 23:27.34 | yagoo | he's trying to build an application that depends on ~/Desktop.. easiest solution is to re-symlink ~/Desktop. Case closed. |
| 23:27.47 | ompaul | lmarcetic: I fail to see why using the separate desktops in gnome or kde or xfce and lots of others would not populate your machine with the correct apps and save desktops on the way out |
| 23:27.58 | Bushmills | suggested already. he doesn't "wish" to |
| 23:28.08 | lmarcetic | yagoo, see, it's not that complicated to grasp. |
| 23:28.11 | ompaul | yagoo: true but ahh Bushmills beat me to it |
| 23:28.23 | Bushmills | getting slow? |
| 23:28.38 | yagoo | well he obviously doesn't know how to build a package,script or mount.. so the question should be asked in #linux once again. |
| 23:28.42 | yagoo | a non-debian issue.. |
| 23:28.48 | ompaul | Bushmills: I was never fast :) |
| 23:28.49 | lmarcetic | ompaul, virtual desktops are "workspaces" |
| 23:29.05 | lmarcetic | yagoo, bugger off trollie |
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| 23:29.49 | ompaul | lmarcetic: your pedantic call outs of everyone else means you have the worlds most specific use case or something else |
| 23:30.16 | lmarcetic | Bushmills, ompaul, symlinks do rank first still. |
| 23:30.34 | ompaul | throws bruce schnier at lmarcetic and watches him beg for a round house kick from chuck n ;-) |
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| 23:32.10 | yagoo | !ops lmarcetic trolling |
| 23:32.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: yagoo complains about: lmarcetic trolling |
| 23:32.20 | babilen | hmm? |
| 23:32.23 | simonlnu | oh come on... |
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| 23:32.32 | dvs | yeah right |
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| 23:32.38 | yagoo | telling me I'm not helping him. I suggest symlinks. and then he says symlinks are first. << This is enough.. |
| 23:32.45 | yagoo | he's trolling. |
| 23:33.29 | tmi92 | <lmarcetic>tmi92, i guess. if it wasn't trolling. :-/ |
| 23:33.42 | lmarcetic | tmi92, yagoo's trolling not mine -_- |
| 23:33.44 | tmi92 | usually the one who smelt it dealt it |
| 23:33.46 | babilen | Please everyone relax -- The discussion, however, looks to have digressed far beyond what could be considered a Debian problem. |
| 23:34.03 | smacnay | Debianites - I have been using Debian for 13 years or so and, just recently, was forced to by a Mac for some education I enrolled in. I gotta say that, as nice and EXPENSIVE as the Mac is, I like Debian/GNU linux over MacOSX. I miss my deb box. |
| 23:34.27 | lmarcetic | tmi92, you really weren't paying attention |
| 23:34.35 | ompaul | smacnay: bring a real lappy with you :-) |
| 23:34.51 | smacnay | I wish. |
| 23:35.06 | smacnay | ompaul: this is a nice laptop. |
| 23:35.10 | babilen | lmarcetic, yagoo, tmi92: Please drop this issue. The discussion seem to lead nowhere. |
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| 23:35.25 | simonlnu | smacnay: dual boot os x and debian ;p |
| 23:35.40 | smacnay | simonlnu: I could or install vbox |
| 23:35.52 | simonlnu | or that ;) |
| 23:36.01 | yagoo | babilen, I'm not feeding anything here. |
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| 23:36.06 | smacnay | I am not that far into tinkering with this box yet. It is all too new to me and I don't want to be the bull in the china shop. |
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| 23:38.16 | lmarcetic | yagoo, btw. Bushmills suggested symlinks, not you. Perhaps it may be ultimate trolling to make me re-read the logs and report *me* as a troll, but trust me, it won't happen again. Talk to the filter. |
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| 23:38.25 | yagoo | ignores lmarcetic |
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| 23:40.50 | tmi92 | can anyone help with mulitple sites ssl install?? All of my certs are coming up with the first cert that's a wildcard not the one that is installed for that site |
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| 23:44.33 | ompaul | tmi92: this may be what you want or not - however if not it rules out one problem http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/multiple-ssl-certificates-per-ip-address-15625/ |
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| 23:49.41 | tmi92 | http://www.howtoforge.com/hosting-multiple-ssl-web-sites-on-one-ip-address-with-apache-2.2-and-gnutls-debian-lenny |
| 23:49.55 | tmi92 | I found this but haven't been able to get it to work yet |
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| 23:50.35 | sedulous | is there a GUI equivalent of "dialog", e.g. for scripts to display error messages on an X11 desktop |
| 23:50.36 | tmi92 | and looking into SNI as well |
| 23:50.50 | tmi92 | http://daniel-lange.com/archives/2-Multiple-Apache-VHosts-on-the-same-IP-and-port.html |
| 23:51.34 | ompaul | sedulous: x11 or gnome or kde? |
| 23:51.58 | ompaul | sedulous: zenity and kdialog there is something else for straight X |
| 23:52.07 | ompaul | my brain is not great at this time |
| 23:52.52 | yagoo | sedulous, there's xdialog i heard of not sure if that's good.. |
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| 23:54.58 | Bushmills | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:55.44 | ompaul | babilen: would it be a useful bug to suggest kmix should be one of the depends for task*kde* and plasma* |
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| 23:56.03 | ompaul | wrong channel / network |
| 23:57.32 | babilen | sedulous: There is also libnotify-bin and xosd-bin -- I guess the former will do nicely |