| 00:01.54 | FDFlock | rypervenche: I'll try it for troubleshooting purposes, but I need the browser to selectively use the SOCKS5 tunnel depending on the connection (using an autoconfig javascript file named "proxy.pac")... Does Chromium support suck magic? |
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| 00:02.09 | FDFlock | Also, the squeeze version is 6.... ugh |
| 00:02.25 | FDFlock | s/suck/such |
| 00:02.34 | FDFlock | says "OMG" |
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| 00:04.14 | rypervenche | FDFlock: chromium supports SOCKS5 yes. |
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| 00:04.34 | FDFlock | rypervenche: Does it support proxy.pac? |
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| 00:04.55 | rypervenche | I don't know. Try and find out. |
| 00:05.02 | FDFlock | ok :) |
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| 00:15.47 | GJdan | sendmail doesn't seem to be sending emails properly anymore, though it does send some sporadically and when I was trying to have a look at it I noticed the package manaher is being a little funny. When I run apt-get update it says, " http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or |
| 00:15.47 | GJdan | directory)" ~ http://dpaste.org/wofA2/ (sources.list) |
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| 00:20.47 | FDFlock | rypervenche: SOCKS5 and the "proxy.pac" auto-config script work fine with Chromium (v.6), so thank you, this definitely helps to narrow down the problem. |
| 00:20.50 | FDFlock | rypervenche: Unfortunately, it seems that Chromium leaks DNS info... (it should use DNS through SOCKS, like Firefox, but it doesn't) |
| 00:21.02 | FDFlock | At least I know the SSH server is working fine |
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| 00:29.49 | rypervenche | FDFlock: That's a plus :) Which version of IW are you using? |
| 00:31.30 | FDFlock | IW = ? |
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| 00:36.10 | andermetalsh | Hello , my friends has a problem with it's Nvidia GTX280 card . He installed the propietary drivers , but X( and gdm3 ) don't load |
| 00:36.12 | FDFlock | BTW, if you're interested, to make Firefox forward DNS requests through SOCKS, you must toggle the option "network.proxy.socks_remote_dns" to true (only compatible with SOCKS v5, IIRC) |
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| 00:37.05 | FDFlock | andermetalsh: Did he use the nvidia-kernel-dkms package? |
| 00:37.48 | FDFlock | andermetalsh: Also, did he run "nvidia-xconfig" (or whatever the command is) before restarting the X server? |
| 00:38.02 | andermetalsh | yeshello1here, both packages were installed |
| 00:38.09 | yeshello1here | andermetalsh: good to know |
| 00:38.20 | andermetalsh | sorry :\ |
| 00:38.21 | yeshello1here | :D |
| 00:38.23 | FDFlock | ^^ |
| 00:38.49 | andermetalsh | He tried even with module-assistant and dmakms |
| 00:39.00 | otak | G |
| 00:39.07 | FDFlock | I've never tried that :S |
| 00:39.14 | andermetalsh | Uses debian Sid, btw |
| 00:39.20 | pingouin | how to install debian with efi bios motherboard ? |
| 00:39.28 | otak | GJdan: /msg dpkg etch |
| 00:39.36 | FDFlock | In any case, you could verify that the kernel module is loaded |
| 00:39.42 | yeshello1here | andermetalsh: he should check the contents of /var/log/X.Org.log.0 or similar |
| 00:39.46 | yeshello1here | it's named something like that |
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| 00:40.49 | FDFlock | pingouin: Do you want EFI booting? Because I'm using Debian with an EFI laptop and good-old GRUB boots just fine... (an a GPT disk!) |
| 00:41.03 | FDFlock | pingouin: But it might depend on the BIOS, I don't know |
| 00:41.18 | FDFlock | s/an/on |
| 00:41.25 | pingouin | FDFlock: grub legacy ? or grub 2 ? |
| 00:42.19 | FDFlock | pingouin: grub2, but I think legacy would work too... the point is that at least my laptop (a Lenovo) is booting just fine without using the EFI facilities and special partitioning |
| 00:43.12 | pingouin | FDFlock: did you partitioned your hd using the debian installer ? |
| 00:44.43 | FDFlock | hmm, not really, I used gdisk directly because I wanted GPT (to ensure correct alignment on an SSD) |
| 00:44.46 | pingouin | andermetalsh: can you pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere we can read ? |
| 00:45.19 | FDFlock | pingouin: then I used the installer. But I thing that d-i supports GPT as well |
| 00:45.40 | pingouin | FDFlock: what is gdisk ? (aptitude cache gave me no awser) |
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| 00:46.33 | FDFlock | pingouin: If interested on dual booting with Win, read http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html and the rest of that guy's articles.... they are very informative and clear some misunderstandings about GPT/EFI/GRUB/multibooting etc. |
| 00:46.52 | FDFlock | pingouin: gdisk is like fdisk but made for GPT partitioning |
| 00:47.01 | pingouin | FDFlock: sid ? |
| 00:47.40 | pingouin | FDFlock: thanks for url, i'll read. not so much info for debian stable installer/efi/new gpt hd outside :/ |
| 00:47.45 | FDFlock | no idea, I'm using squeeze, but I run gdisk from the gparted live CD (because you want a recent version of gdisk) |
| 00:47.52 | andermetalsh | pingouin, sorry, I can not do that until tomorrow |
| 00:48.08 | andermetalsh | maybe he could downgrade to testing and then install nvidia drivers |
| 00:48.32 | pingouin | FDFlock: ah ok, live cd of gparted, thanks for the information |
| 00:48.44 | pingouin | andermetalsh: so...tomorrow |
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| 00:49.00 | FDFlock | pingouin: You want a recent version because it's under active development and many bugs are fixed |
| 00:49.26 | FDFlock | gparted has a quite recent one :) |
| 00:49.34 | pingouin | FDFlock: i guess....i'll wait for the next debian stable to upgrade to new motherboard :) |
| 00:50.00 | FDFlock | good luck (mine has been bad with motherboards lately!) :) |
| 00:50.44 | dvs | has had only one bad M/B |
| 00:51.13 | pingouin | andermetalsh: downgrade to testing ?! what you mean ? |
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| 00:51.32 | FDFlock | has a Lenovo laptop (already mentioned) with a really shitty one, that doesn't properly support 8GB RAM |
| 00:52.09 | FDFlock | hates laptops, but needs one |
| 00:52.43 | pingouin | hates computers, but....needs one |
| 00:52.49 | FDFlock | lol! |
| 00:53.12 | dvs | doesn't like laptops either, but lucked out with this one. |
| 00:53.14 | FDFlock | How can you hate computers! You need one to run LINUX on! |
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| 00:53.31 | pingouin | doing so doesnt mean i love computers :) |
| 00:53.40 | FDFlock | ;) |
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| 00:53.56 | max_sharpe | why would you hate laptops? |
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| 00:55.17 | pingouin | is 7.223 seconds reply for ping is lag ? :) |
| 00:55.24 | FDFlock | max_sharpe: Many reasons (and a bit) offtopic: shitty hardware, non-upgradable, thermal issues, shitty firmware/BIOSes, come with junk preinstalled, are slower, have TERRIBLE screens (ALL of them) and mediocre keyboards... |
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| 00:55.49 | pingouin | yeah, computers sucks :) |
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| 00:56.55 | FDFlock | really, my 6-year-old DFI motherboard BIOS is by far the best one I've ever come across, and still my "measuring stick"... no laptop comes close (and very few desktops) |
| 00:57.52 | karlpinc | I've a 45.2G fs. But when I run "dd if=/dev/vg00/guido of=/tmp/badblock bs=4096 count=1 skip=559597029" I get "dd: `/dev/vg00/guido': cannot skip: Invalid argument". What am I doing wrong? |
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| 00:58.27 | FDFlock | this Lenovo machine caused me some really bad problems after trying to upgrade the RAM to 8GB, including an unexplained factor-50 slowdown (booting a Linux kernel was taking 5 minutes to init!) |
| 00:58.45 | pingouin | awsome ! :) |
| 00:59.54 | pingouin | is there a way to have gnome 3 in stable ? |
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| 01:00.26 | somiaj | pingouin: you can check backports but as I still think gnome3 isn't fully in sid there may not be any offical ones. |
| 01:00.36 | karlpinc | pingouin: Basically, no. Not unless somebody puts it in backports and that sounds unlikely. |
| 01:00.37 | FDFlock | I don't think so... unless you run a mixed system/use apt pinning? But it would be crazy with so many packages |
| 01:00.54 | jetscreamer | compile it |
| 01:01.03 | pingouin | somiaj karlpinc FDFlock :/ |
| 01:01.29 | pingouin | jetscreamer: yes...but do the depends are high enough in stable to do so..... ? |
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| 01:02.07 | somiaj | pingouin: you could *gulp* try to backport it yourself, but you are on your own...or use testing. Either you won't be stable and you won't be in kansass anymore |
| 01:02.40 | somiaj | pingouin: http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/16/installing-gnome-3-on-debian-6-0-squeeze-no-sorry/ |
| 01:03.00 | FDFlock | pingouin: Have yu tried it on a Live CD/USB first? You might NOT like it... |
| 01:03.00 | pingouin | somiaj: unfortunately, my skills are far beyond making packages/backports..... :/ |
| 01:03.12 | FDFlock | s/yu/you |
| 01:03.35 | babilen | pingouin: There is *no* way to get Gnome3 in stable. |
| 01:03.56 | pingouin | somiaj: thanks for the url :/ |
| 01:04.14 | pingouin | FDFlock: no i did not. but good id, live cd (again :) ) |
| 01:04.15 | babilen | pingouin: FWIW, there are even quite a number of serious bugs that prevent it from being installed in unstable, so don't even think about it. |
| 01:04.33 | pingouin | babilen: i've just read that on the url somiaj gave us :/ |
| 01:04.53 | pingouin | i'll stay with i3 :) |
| 01:05.13 | babilen | pingouin: Raphaël's post is two months old so things might have changed. Yes, stay with i3 and be happy. |
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| 01:05.36 | pingouin | yeah i3 it's great |
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| 01:06.37 | pingouin | but i like testing more 'for all people' desktop for friends that dont use command line/computers and gnome 3 looked like mac interface |
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| 01:09.22 | GJdan | otak: thx, I See now |
| 01:10.14 | FDFlock | pingouin: Be sure to try it first on a Live CD before installing (or backporting! ;). I'd say that it still s*cks to the point of being unusable, but you should still try it with an open mind (for 2-3 days at least, to overcome the initial usability shock) |
| 01:10.49 | FDFlock | it still lacks basic things, like a font configuration dialog... (how could they!) |
| 01:11.28 | FDFlock | There are some good ideas though... |
| 01:12.02 | konr | is there a packaging guide for people with ADHD? |
| 01:12.39 | pingouin | Avanced Dungeons Hand's Dragons ? |
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| 01:13.02 | babilen | !tell konr -about nmg |
| 01:13.02 | konr | attention deficit disorder :D |
| 01:13.50 | konr | thanks, babilen |
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| 01:14.32 | babilen | konr: And ADHD and packaging are not a good match. |
| 01:14.45 | somiaj | pingouin: just rember once you upgrade to testing you can't go back -- so be prepared to deal with it, sometimes its painless, sometimes its not |
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| 01:15.32 | pingouin | somiaj: i'll be patient, i'm good with stable, so next stable one.. |
| 01:15.45 | pingouin | or as FDFlock just with a live cd with it |
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| 01:16.24 | pingouin | i forgot the said, or as FDFlock just *said* |
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| 01:33.30 | CannedCorn | hey guys I'm getting sudo: apache2-ssl-certificate: command not found |
| 01:33.33 | CannedCorn | when i try to run that command |
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| 01:34.08 | qop | does anybody knows how much difference in performance there is between raid and lvm? |
| 01:34.47 | qop | I know raid 0 is always faster, its just that I have this lvm system and want to migrate it to raid |
| 01:35.04 | qop | but I am not sure if the performance difference will be worth it |
| 01:35.05 | pingouin | CannedCorn: wich command ? |
| 01:35.08 | gnarface | qop: its gonna depend a lot on your hardware and your use cases |
| 01:35.19 | CannedCorn | apache2-ssl-certificate |
| 01:35.26 | pingouin | CannedCorn: did you installed sudo ? |
| 01:35.29 | CannedCorn | yeah |
| 01:35.29 | qop | gnarface: lvms mostly |
| 01:35.31 | CannedCorn | sudo is workin |
| 01:35.38 | qop | oops, mean... VMs |
| 01:35.38 | pingouin | just to be sure :) |
| 01:35.52 | gnarface | qop: software raid or hardware raid? |
| 01:36.03 | qop | software raid |
| 01:36.14 | gnarface | qop: how many disks, and which raid type? |
| 01:36.53 | qop | 2 disks on raid 0, they are currently lvm on 1 disk... not a huge server just my work pc that is a little slow fore what I need |
| 01:37.09 | qop | thinkering to improve performance |
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| 01:39.03 | qop | I run a lot of tests on the VM, but also have to run a bunch of things paralell on the desktop |
| 01:39.25 | gnarface | qop: i would expect you to notice a performance benefit, but only under load. lvm isn't really for performance, its for ease of partition manipulation |
| 01:39.40 | qop | yup |
| 01:39.47 | pingouin | good night/day all |
| 01:39.51 | gnarface | qop: nonetheless if performance really matters for this, i would expect different hardware to make a much bigger difference |
| 01:39.55 | qop | although it does improve disk performance |
| 01:40.14 | qop | gnarface: heh, yes I wish |
| 01:40.18 | gnarface | qop: you might want to seriously consider an actual hardware raid controller, or at least just buying faster disks, with bigger cache |
| 01:40.45 | qop | gnarface: cant, its my employer's machine |
| 01:41.45 | gnarface | qop: well failing that, i know that raid can make a much bigger difference if you know how to tune the stripe width/blocksizes and such to most appropriately compliment the harddrives capabilities - the specifics of this process though i'm not clear on, sorry. |
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| 01:42.13 | qop | gnarface: sso you vote that its worth it :) |
| 01:42.17 | qop | thanks |
| 01:42.34 | gnarface | qop: there's a caveat: its only worth it if your time is cheaper than replacement hardware |
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| 01:43.23 | gnarface | qop: in my industry they're more likely to opt for just buying faster hardware than spending man hours on careful tuning - but your mileage may vary |
| 01:43.33 | qop | yes, I can spend days waiting for stuff to run (compile) on servers while I watch youtube :p |
| 01:43.40 | versuchsanstalt | where can i still download etch? |
| 01:43.51 | gnarface | hmm. |
| 01:43.53 | gnarface | !etch |
| 01:43.53 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
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| 01:44.08 | versuchsanstalt | !etch iso |
| 01:44.08 | dpkg | Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 ("Etch") installation images are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/4.0_r9/ . Note that Etch has been superseded by Lenny, ask me about <install lenny>. Security support for Etch ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. |
| 01:44.09 | somiaj | versuchsanstalt: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 01:44.16 | versuchsanstalt | a, good |
| 01:44.20 | versuchsanstalt | thank you, somiaj |
| 01:44.46 | gnarface | versuchsanstalt: try to get to lenny, and then to squeeze though... that's the official recommendation. don't run ancient distros unless absolutely inescapable |
| 01:45.22 | versuchsanstalt | gnarface: i think i'll upgrade as soon as i have installed via them good ol' floppy images |
| 01:45.22 | dvs | likes hamm |
| 01:45.39 | versuchsanstalt | thanks for the warning though |
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| 01:47.27 | gnarface | versuchsanstalt: for a fresh install, if you're only going to etch becasue the newer installers don't fit in your hardware spec anymore - if i were you i'd seriously consider an alternate upgrade path (assuming hardware was not replaceable) and that upgrade path is simply this: pull the drive, install to it using debootstrap and chroot on a current (squeeze, version 6.x) debian and then move the harddrive back |
| 01:49.06 | gnarface | versuchsanstalt: but it should also be stated for the record, that if you have an old machine but it still has enough ram and a late enough cpu that its *supposed* to work on newer installers - the bug tracker does deserve to be informed of the problem |
| 01:49.37 | swirl | is there any way to enter a debian mirror manually when installing via the net installer? it only presents me with a couple of mirrors to choose from, but a much faster local mirror is available |
| 01:50.25 | versuchsanstalt | gnarface: that's a good idea. i will consider it, thank you. depends on the casing and the ram, i think. |
| 01:50.27 | gnarface | swirl: did you try expert mode? |
| 01:51.14 | gnarface | versuchsanstalt: pretty much anything x86 later than 586 - aka pentium 1 (someone check me on that?) should still work as long as it has at least 128MB of ram and some swap space available |
| 01:51.16 | swirl | yes, i think so...i tried every option i could find...perhaps i missed something |
| 01:51.51 | swirl | i will start it installing on another machine and come back |
| 01:51.58 | versuchsanstalt | gnarface: and without xorg, what would you think? |
| 01:51.59 | gnarface | swirl: i think you'd have have to have typed 'expert' or something like that at the linux boot prompt after the installer loads. check the help notes that you can access from there with the F1-F... keys |
| 01:52.14 | swirl | thanks gnarface |
| 01:52.14 | gnarface | versuchsanstalt: that figure WAS without xorg |
| 01:52.23 | versuchsanstalt | gnarface: i see. |
| 01:52.39 | gnarface | versuchsanstalt: linux is kinda big these days :-/ gone are the days of a 8MB install. |
| 01:52.57 | gnarface | versuchsanstalt: but windows needs half a gig so we still win :-D |
| 01:53.15 | nevyn | gnarface: nah it doesn't... |
| 01:53.27 | nevyn | gnarface: reccommended minimum is 50gig |
| 01:53.30 | gnarface | versuchsanstalt: the point is if you have the specs, the problem is something ELSE (bios issues, installer regressions, kernel regressions etc) |
| 01:53.35 | nevyn | linux I can still do comefortably in 25 |
| 01:53.38 | gnarface | haha nevyn |
| 01:53.39 | versuchsanstalt | gnarface: i think i should have more than 64MB ram and a couple of GB hd |
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| 01:54.02 | nevyn | gnarface: I'm serious. |
| 01:54.02 | gnarface | versuchsanstalt: tight fit then. can't say |
| 01:54.29 | gnarface | what's the minimum for the squeeze installer, officially? is it 64 or 128? |
| 01:54.36 | gnarface | i know you can boot it with 64 |
| 01:54.42 | gnarface | but the installer requires more, and swap |
| 01:55.52 | nevyn | 96 I think |
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| 01:56.25 | MrGeneral | hello folks, I'm having a few issues with mysql. I need to reinstall mysql-server from scratch in debian squeeze. I tried apt-get --purge remove mysql-server but a few files remained there, I'm getting several errors |
| 01:56.57 | gnarface | the oldest machine i've successfully installed squeeze on was a p3 ibm netvista desktop pizza box form factor with 128MB and a couple gigs hd and an onboard intel i810 video card |
| 01:57.05 | dvs | MrGeneral: if it just says "directory not empty" then delete the directory. |
| 01:57.21 | gnarface | after pulling the drive to do a chroot/debootstrap atrocity on this netvista box i discovered squeeze only failed due to a cpu core regression |
| 01:57.30 | MrGeneral | dvs: It's all messed up, I had to rm /etc/mysql |
| 01:57.31 | MrGeneral | :\ |
| 01:57.37 | gnarface | (needed to pass no-hlt or something like that to the kernel) |
| 01:57.40 | MrGeneral | now I don't know what to do to get this back |
| 01:58.14 | gnarface | MrGeneral: you probably forgot to purge mysql-common or something like that |
| 01:58.34 | MrGeneral | probably |
| 01:58.36 | MrGeneral | It's all messed up |
| 01:58.38 | MrGeneral | danit |
| 01:58.39 | MrGeneral | damnit |
| 01:58.54 | gnarface | install again, then uninstall everything that comes up in dpkg -l |grep mysql |
| 01:59.12 | gnarface | then do a clean install and be happy |
| 01:59.51 | gnarface | MrGeneral: and if you ever mixed source mysql install components with the debian packages... god save your soul |
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| 02:00.57 | MrGeneral | I didn't gnarface |
| 02:01.10 | un214 | gnarface sounds like part of gnome |
| 02:01.25 | gnarface | un214: how dare you! |
| 02:01.32 | gnarface | un214: e16 foreva!!! |
| 02:01.37 | MrGeneral | now I only miss one thing gnarface , the init file /etc/init.d/mysql |
| 02:01.38 | MrGeneral | <.< |
| 02:01.54 | gnarface | MrGeneral: do you have mysql-common installed? |
| 02:02.07 | MrGeneral | yes |
| 02:02.10 | MrGeneral | newest version |
| 02:02.20 | gnarface | MrCoffee: pastebin us the output of dpkg -l |grep mysql |
| 02:02.39 | Bop | MrGeneral, apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server |
| 02:02.53 | Bop | should put everything in place |
| 02:03.08 | gnarface | sorry MrGeneral my message to MrCoffee was for you. Bop's advice is probably the ultimate solution though |
| 02:03.38 | dvs | gnarface: Freudian slip? ;-) |
| 02:03.40 | gnarface | Bop: doesn't he need --force or something too? |
| 02:03.45 | Bop | no |
| 02:03.49 | gnarface | dvs: tab-completion error |
| 02:03.51 | Bop | just --reinstall |
| 02:04.05 | MrGeneral | Wait folks, I'm trying bop's suggestion :-) |
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| 02:04.56 | MrGeneral | hah it worked |
| 02:04.59 | Bop | :p |
| 02:05.00 | Melli | levated concentrations of airborne asbestos can occur after asbestos-containing materials are disturbed by cutting, sanding or other remodeling activities. Improper attempts to remove these materials can release asbestos fibers into the air in homes, increasing asbestos levels and endangering people living in those homes. |
| 02:05.01 | MrGeneral | reinstall worked Bop , thanks mate :P |
| 02:05.07 | MrGeneral | gnarface: I got it, thank you for your help |
| 02:05.10 | Bop | no prob |
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| 02:05.42 | Melli | How long after asbestos abatement is asbestos elevated in the air? |
| 02:06.00 | dvs | ???? |
| 02:06.40 | dvs | aptitude purge asbestos |
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| 02:07.17 | gnarface | haha |
| 02:08.27 | un214 | until you let it rain |
| 02:08.43 | gnarface | Melli: this is OFF topic for debian. i know we're the smartest channel in all of IRC but you really gotta stop coming to us for home improvement tips. i would *suspect* (without official knowledge of any sort) that the answer is "until about 4 minutes after you turn on the AC" |
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| 02:09.34 | Melli | gnarface: , It can't be in the AC forever. |
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| 02:10.43 | un214 | I used to take bets in the ubuntu channel about the safety of sudo kill -9 1 |
| 02:11.01 | gnarface | Melli: asbestos isn't like radiation. its just microscopic particles that are corrosive to your lung tissue in a strange way that gives you cancer. they're similar to prions in that respect - they are just shaped harshly, nothing more evil or malicious than that. once you get rid of the material and properly vent the place, you shouldn't be at any greater risk of contamination than you would be if you were spraypainting in you |
| 02:11.01 | gnarface | r kitchen |
| 02:11.39 | max_sharpe | yeah its basicaly a dust that never gets out of your lungs |
| 02:11.50 | GJdan | what's the first thing I should try if sendmail is installed but not working? |
| 02:11.59 | gnarface | GJdan: install exim4 instead |
| 02:12.14 | Melli | So if I go to a building that asbestos abatement last month, it should be fine now and forever after. |
| 02:12.17 | GJdan | oh? |
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| 02:12.41 | gnarface | GJdan: haha sorry, i'm prejudiced. iwhat i mean is try dpkg-reconfigure sendmail (if that doesn't fix it, then go to exim4 - its the debian default for a reason) |
| 02:12.50 | Melli | What I do know is the last time I was anywhere near an abestos abatement project, one of the workers was talking loudly to an inspector in a nearby cafe about the asbestos getting into the whole building's air supply |
| 02:12.55 | Melli | and he was really agitated about this. |
| 02:13.02 | Melli | The inspector told him to quiet down.; |
| 02:13.06 | GJdan | gnarface: ah k, sound good to me |
| 02:13.38 | JadedJacob | hi, has anyone ever used the ddrescue program to recover files from a failing hard drive. |
| 02:13.47 | Melli | I think we must presume asbestos abatement is done imperfectly to various degrees. |
| 02:14.14 | un214 | JadedJacob: I've used it on a suspect but not known failing |
| 02:14.19 | gnarface | Melli: well that's not good. you certainly don't want to be around it without a proper respirator during the actual process of ripping the shit out .... i imagine this *should* be something that active ventilation clears on its own fairly quickly... but this is WELL beyond my level of expertise. around here we deal with computers because we don't *like* physical reality. maybe you missed out on that part of the psyche profile? |
| 02:14.23 | GJdan | gnarface: random question, I'm not really allowed to do major updates on this particular system. will dpk-reconfigure work on etch? I can't update to lenny, but on the upside that means I can pass the problem to someone else :\ |
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| 02:14.34 | un214 | JadedJacob: After the fact I ended up believing the backup files were corrupted instead |
| 02:15.02 | JadedJacob | ok |
| 02:15.19 | Melli | gnarface: , You must admit it's a good channel to ask one's questions. |
| 02:15.23 | thogar | is there any taskbar panels for displaying live amd card temps? |
| 02:15.28 | gnarface | GJdan: you'll need root access. |
| 02:15.38 | un214 | Personally I'd recommend debian-offtopic |
| 02:15.46 | JadedJacob | I'm trying to recover files from a 200gb drive formatted as ntfs using ddrescue |
| 02:15.52 | GJdan | ya, I got that. It's not that I can't, it's that I'm not allowed. |
| 02:15.53 | un214 | although I might use the streight channel if it was quiet |
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| 02:16.22 | gnarface | GJdan: we don't fix political problems here, we just fix technical problems. in fact, my advice for your political problem is likely to be harmful |
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| 02:17.07 | linkandzelda | hello |
| 02:17.09 | un214 | good one gnarface |
| 02:17.15 | GJdan | gnarface: lolol noted. It's not a huge political problem though, I can deal with it. I'm just wondering if an update to lenny would be necessary to run dpk-reconfigure... you know what, I'll just try it and see what happens |
| 02:17.47 | linkandzelda | is anyone interested in buying a vbulletin 4 publishing suite license for cheap? |
| 02:18.05 | gnarface | GJdan: should not be necessary to upgrade distros just to reconfigure an already installed package - so long as you actually installed by the debian package, not by source |
| 02:18.33 | GJdan | gnarface: k, thanks :) |
| 02:20.16 | gnarface | linkandzelda: you're hawking commercial software/services in the #debian channel?! certainly you must be joking |
| 02:20.23 | gnarface | !ops linkandzelda (spamming) |
| 02:20.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: gnarface complains about: linkandzelda (spamming) |
| 02:20.54 | gnarface | god people, is this "come out of the woodwork monday" or what? |
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| 02:21.53 | gnarface | try reading /topic |
| 02:22.20 | aidalgol | Is http://mozilla.debian.net/ run by Debian? |
| 02:22.36 | aidalgol | Or are debian.net sites unofficial? |
| 02:24.56 | OldParr | i upgraded from full updated lenny to squeeze and the sysytem do not starts it reboots again and again after showing this warning screen http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/pic0011wj.jpg/ (i tried with command update-initramfs -u -k <kernel name> yesterday but it do not worked, i also tried fsck over all linux partitions and it neither worked |
| 02:25.50 | gnarface | OldParr: you need to manually run fsck like it says. it probably has errors that need to be corrected by passing a non-default fsck option |
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| 02:27.43 | OldParr | gnarface: i tried fsck with options i do not remember specifically wich option but i think it was -r |
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| 02:29.17 | gnarface | OldParr: its gonna depend on the filesystem. i'm afraid that's as much useful information as i have to give you - have you read the man page for your filesystem's fsck? |
| 02:30.38 | OldParr | gnarface: i have read man page and i like -f option ... |
| 02:30.51 | OldParr | sorry -r |
| 02:31.03 | OldParr | -r |
| 02:32.15 | gnarface | OldParr: hardware failure is a possibilty here |
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| 02:33.27 | gnarface | OldParr: which filesystem, out of curiosity? |
| 02:33.49 | NekawA | i had that problem before oldparr i put FSCKFIX=yes in rcS in /etc/default |
| 02:33.59 | NekawA | and didn't haev a problem ever again, it fixed it after that without the -y option |
| 02:34.20 | gnarface | OldParr: ^^ listen to this guy. he clearly knows more about it than me |
| 02:34.36 | OldParr | gnarface: my hardware was ok before the upgrade it is improbable such event i think it is more probable a software problem, and wright now it boots windows very well because this machine is dual boot, i booted today with a fedora live CD and it is also ok |
| 02:34.49 | gnarface | is one of the few people who never had a problem with reiserfs, so never is up-to-date on whatever is wrong with ext* these days |
| 02:35.28 | OldParr | NekawA: i am ghoing to try that i welcome new ideas |
| 02:36.17 | NekawA | well for my system, it wanted me to run fsck -y.. |
| 02:36.30 | NekawA | ..like when the system was running fsck, it couldn't auto-answer yes to fix the errors.. |
| 02:36.33 | gnarface | speaking of which - which filesystem should i be seriously anxious for first: ext4 or btrfs? |
| 02:36.49 | NekawA | ..putting that into rcS did the trick |
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| 02:37.12 | NekawA | gnarface any major benefits in them over ext3/xfs ? |
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| 02:37.47 | gnarface | NekawA: ext4 and btrfs you mean? other than that they're newer, i have no fucking clue, that's why i'm asking |
| 02:37.55 | OldParr | NekawA: [root@localhost ~]# ls /etc/default ----> nss useradd there is not a file called rcS ? |
| 02:38.56 | NekawA | i don't have nss or useradd in /etc/default |
| 02:38.58 | pfred1 | ext4 is nice if you have to fsck |
| 02:39.07 | pfred1 | stuff is fast |
| 02:39.13 | NekawA | owait yea i do |
| 02:39.29 | NekawA | for rcS it says 'this file belongs to the initscripts' |
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| 02:39.43 | OldParr | NekawA: there is no file called rcS in /etc/default ... |
| 02:39.58 | NekawA | I dunno what exactly that means, but I have like 20x files in that directory |
| 02:40.10 | f3xy | I'm trying to install cairo-compmgr cairo-compmgr-plugins from the http://download.tuxfamily.org/ccm/ repo but it's dependenices like libvala0 for instance aren't in testing or unstable just stable. In testing and unstable the packages is libvala-0.10-0 |
| 02:40.14 | OldParr | ok sorry |
| 02:40.30 | OldParr | i listed wrong directory ... |
| 02:40.45 | f3xy | throw stable in to the mix for one dependency or bash my head against a wall trying to create a deb against the new libraries? |
| 02:40.47 | OldParr | i listed directory on live System |
| 02:40.55 | NekawA | ahh, that makes sense |
| 02:41.13 | NekawA | honestly though OldParr |
| 02:41.17 | pfred1 | f3xy could you get the src deb out of stable and remake it for the version you're on? |
| 02:41.22 | NekawA | its probably not going to work, if u already entered the root password |
| 02:41.31 | NekawA | and tried to do fsck -y / |
| 02:41.39 | gnarface | pfred1: how long does it take to format new partitions in ext4? one of the things i noted that was significantly different with reiserfs is that you can format even very large partitions in mere seconds. formatting an ext3 partition in the multi-terabyte range takes longer than a 2-hour beer-drinking lunch |
| 02:41.50 | NekawA | thats basically what the option does.. |
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| 02:42.19 | pfred1 | gnarface I don't know nothing I've ever dealt with largest HDD i have is 500 GB and it isan't even all one partition |
| 02:42.46 | gnarface | pfred1: oh, yea below 250GB i never used to notice the difference, it only becomes extreme in the TB+ range |
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| 02:43.21 | pfred1 | gnarface next HDD i get will be a larger one I'll have to check it out though even it will likely be only about 1 TB or so |
| 02:44.16 | gnarface | pfred1: i've assumed in general that this is because ext3 is just a journal added to ext2 (which is almost as old as me) and while i've heard ext4 is fundamentally different internally from its ext* predecessors, i don't have any authoritative info on the matter |
| 02:44.26 | pfred1 | gnarface in the recent storm I lost power a few times and machines shut down so I apprecited the fast recovery here |
| 02:45.02 | pfred1 | well ext4 journal recovers a lot faster than ext3 |
| 02:45.30 | gnarface | pfred1: my locale has such low-quality power that i have long ago just standardized on UPSes for all my home machines. i'd highly recommend them, fwiw. APC makes the best ones |
| 02:45.44 | gnarface | er... best *cheap* ones i should say |
| 02:45.44 | pfred1 | I'm not thrilled by al lthe processes ext4 spawns but in reality they don't impact performance that I've noticed |
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| 02:46.06 | aidalgol | Is Gnome3 available in Debian testing yet? |
| 02:46.23 | gnarface | pfred1: yea i was always impressed by reiserfs's very low memory footprint |
| 02:47.18 | OldParr | NekawA: i wrote FSCKFIX=yes in rcS now what i must do ? |
| 02:47.29 | gnarface | OldParr: reboot and pray |
| 02:47.41 | TuxFighter | Anyone know what this means: grub: asmstub.c:170: grub_stage2: Assertion `ret == 0' failed. |
| 02:48.16 | OldParr | gnarface: reboot the damaged debian ? |
| 02:48.19 | gnarface | TuxFighter: it refers to line 170 of the file 'asmstub.c' in the source of grub. that's all i can tell you from this info though |
| 02:48.46 | gnarface | OldParr: NekawA's advice assumes your debian is not actually 'damaged' but there is a bug that makes it think that it is |
| 02:48.49 | aidalgol | TuxFighter: Sounds like a bug. |
| 02:48.54 | thogar | lol does anyone run debian on their phone |
| 02:48.55 | TuxFighter | yea pretty sad |
| 02:49.04 | TuxFighter | I really would like to set pw |
| 02:49.09 | gnarface | thogar: you run debian on your phone?! where can i get such a phone? |
| 02:49.25 | thogar | iono |
| 02:49.27 | karlpinc | OldParr: The "right way" is "shutdown -F -r now". |
| 02:49.43 | thogar | i dont know if it was some simple shell look alike thing or not |
| 02:49.59 | gnarface | thogar: there was the open moko freerunner but its not supported by US cellphone networks |
| 02:50.25 | OldParr | gnarface: my debian do not boots ... it only shows this screen http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/pic0011wj.jpg/ |
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| 02:50.38 | gnarface | thogar: the nokia N9 should also be able to do it, but it ALSO is not supported in the continental US so i can't help you there either |
| 02:50.49 | gnarface | thogar: and its *also* discontinued so... :( |
| 02:51.02 | thogar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R71KxQsohUU iono what that is, im still new to all this lol |
| 02:51.09 | thogar | wth is hot booting? |
| 02:51.14 | gnarface | OldParr: that was after adding FSCKFIX=yes ? |
| 02:51.20 | NekawA | gnarface |
| 02:51.30 | NekawA | when my power would go out |
| 02:51.42 | NekawA | sometimes there was cross linked files that fsck would not fix, and it would sit there at that same prompt he got |
| 02:51.52 | NekawA | the fsckfix=yes made it autofix those cross linked files.. |
| 02:52.05 | OldParr | gnarface: no i have not rebooted after the change in rcS |
| 02:52.37 | gnarface | NekawA: i think your advice is likely to help him. i just told him to try it. can you please get him to? |
| 02:52.48 | OldParr | NekawA: i am going to try to boot dameged debian |
| 02:52.50 | gnarface | OldParr: well... i think that is a necessary step |
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| 02:53.01 | NekawA | well he said he did I thought |
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| 02:53.22 | NekawA | oh now he says he did not reboot |
| 02:53.33 | NekawA | i guess i'm confused because we got a second screenshot still showing the nonworking fsck |
| 02:53.43 | gnarface | NekawA: i think there is a language barrier here |
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| 02:54.04 | gnarface | NekawA: probably amplified by a network latency barrier |
| 02:54.04 | NekawA | ohhhh that is the same pic as before not a new screeny |
| 02:54.10 | NekawA | lol |
| 02:54.12 | NekawA | dual barrier |
| 02:54.40 | gnarface | raise your hand if english is the FIRST language you learned |
| 02:54.51 | thogar | 0o |
| 02:55.00 | gnarface | fuck, am i the only one?! |
| 02:55.01 | NekawA | but i'm still confused as to what he did |
| 02:55.10 | un214 | hand up |
| 02:55.12 | NekawA | did he type his root pw and do fsck / to see what it says |
| 02:55.15 | aidalgol | gnarface: English is my first language. |
| 02:55.18 | thogar | i learned baby before english lol |
| 02:55.21 | NekawA | or did he do nothing and take a screenshot and come here :/ |
| 02:55.32 | gnarface | aidalgol: i think we're in the minority here |
| 02:55.38 | pfred1 | I never learned English so much as absorbed it over time |
| 02:56.06 | NekawA | so does anyone have a flash fix |
| 02:56.09 | karlpinc | gnarface: Just forcing fsck won't fix it. You get that message when the fsck fails and you need to run "fsck -fy /dev/foo" and have it fix the fs and fix all the problems. He should have gotten a prompt for the root password, unless it's an old debian, at the bottom of his screenshot. |
| 02:56.34 | karlpinc | I've a 45.2G fs. But when I run "dd if=/dev/vg00/guido of=/tmp/badblock bs=4096 count=1 skip=559597029" I get "dd: `/dev/vg00/guido': cannot skip: Invalid argument". What am I doing wrong? |
| 02:56.44 | NekawA | that seems to be the only thing I can't get working after converting this winblows machine to linus |
| 02:57.08 | karlpinc | !tell NekawA about flash |
| 02:57.21 | gnarface | karlpinc: well that's the point of what i first told him - but he said he tried it and it didn't work, now we're not sure if he understood the point of what i said. NekawA had a line on a specific bug that might have caused this behavior in spite of proper fscking it, and he said he tried that too, but then later said he had not |
| 02:57.36 | NekawA | huh? i know about it buddy, it doesn't work right |
| 02:57.40 | gnarface | karlpinc: we're trying to figure out what's actually going on but there seems to be a language barrier |
| 02:57.43 | NekawA | the flashplugin-nonfree skips in fullscreen |
| 02:57.51 | karlpinc | NekawA: You can link through the dpkg factoids (or see the wiki) for helpful flash hints. |
| 02:58.05 | NekawA | i've already looked there |
| 02:58.08 | un214 | download latest flash from adobe and it's passing test for me |
| 02:58.09 | NekawA | thats why I asked in here |
| 02:58.20 | NekawA | someone already confirmed that there is a bug |
| 02:58.31 | NekawA | so I was asking if someone had a fix, not to be redirected to how to install the package |
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| 02:58.34 | NekawA | thanks though |
| 02:58.48 | un214 | did you catch what I said NekawA? |
| 02:58.57 | karlpinc | NekawA: Then check the bts. |
| 02:59.19 | NekawA | yea i did un214 v11 non-free from wheezy repo' |
| 02:59.28 | gnarface | NekawA: sorry to tell you but if you're having framerate troubles in fullscreen with flash on linux, they're probably not solveable unless you overclock your video card ram. flash is a dog, but flash linux is a bitch |
| 02:59.32 | un214 | uhh I went to adobe's site and got it |
| 02:59.34 | NekawA | it works fine in a window if I make the window bigger then half the screen it gets all choppy |
| 02:59.45 | un214 | (and I'm running vesa driver) |
| 02:59.54 | gnarface | NekawA: KNOWN LIMITATION OF FLASH |
| 03:00.02 | NekawA | well u don't have to goto adobe site, if u just add contrib and non-free repo' u can apt-get it |
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| 03:00.11 | NekawA | well gnarface I guess i'm a little disappointed cuz this machine flash ran fine in windows |
| 03:00.23 | NekawA | its a htpc with an ion2 with 512mb dedicated ddr3 and an atom d525 |
| 03:00.25 | un214 | gnarface: it's not known to me and I used it yesterday |
| 03:00.33 | NekawA | i know the atom's aren't the greatest, but i'd think it would be able to handle flash ok, apparently not |
| 03:00.34 | gnarface | NekawA: unfortunately adobe is the only one who can address it, and it doesn't seem very high on their list of priorities |
| 03:00.46 | NekawA | that sucks.. |
| 03:00.47 | un214 | oh atom that's why |
| 03:01.01 | NekawA | ..in case anyone cares youtube not has html5 trials u can join that work perfect |
| 03:01.08 | NekawA | no its not cuz its an atom |
| 03:01.08 | gnarface | NekawA: its been a problem since flash FIRST supported HD video |
| 03:01.13 | NekawA | as I said it works fine with windows |
| 03:01.44 | NekawA | un214: it seems to happen to almost anyone that doesn't have an i* processor |
| 03:01.52 | gnarface | NekawA: "fine" is pretty subjective ...the other platform vendors complain regularly about the cpu/power draw on their platforms even when it IS running at full framerate |
| 03:01.52 | NekawA | at least the 5-10 people i've asked have the same issue |
| 03:02.00 | gnarface | NekawA: flash isn't omitted from iphones for no reason |
| 03:02.04 | un214 | I recall atom being slooow |
| 03:02.14 | NekawA | well there are some super slow single core atoms |
| 03:02.26 | NekawA | the one i got the d525 is dual core hyperthreaded it shows up as 4x cpu's @ 1.8ghz |
| 03:02.35 | NekawA | i'm pretty happy with the speed considering the whole machine with ssd uses 22watts |
| 03:02.41 | un214 | flash tries to use the video slow path and so can overload a slow processor |
| 03:02.42 | thogar | lol atom cpu? |
| 03:03.04 | un214 | (flash over remote actually works so it's definitely slow path) |
| 03:03.16 | NekawA | well what gnarface is saying makes more sense that what un214 is saying |
| 03:03.26 | NekawA | i'd believe its a problem with flash, I don't believe its a problem with my cpu |
| 03:03.37 | NekawA | and yea gnarface, fine is debatable, it probably was maxing the cpu and what not |
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| 03:03.55 | gnarface | NekawA: i've got a 4 core 3.6GHZ desktop, with 4GB of DDR2 ram and 8GB of swap, and a video card that takes up 2 PCI-E slots you could dry your hair with in the morning when its lit up with a windows game running through wine, and *I* still can't watch a high-def youtube video in fullscreen without it dropping frames so hard as to be unwatchable |
| 03:03.56 | NekawA | now if there was some way to get flash to use vdpau with gpu acceleration i'd be golden |
| 03:03.57 | un214 | it's simply a problem of horsepower |
| 03:04.05 | un214 | it's draining 1.5 of my 2 cores |
| 03:04.19 | NekawA | omg gnar' thats insane |
| 03:04.35 | NekawA | gnarface if you goto youtube.com/html5 and signup for html5 trial they work fine |
| 03:04.37 | un214 | I agree that's insane |
| 03:04.41 | un214 | it works for me though |
| 03:04.48 | NekawA | but that doesn't help for other sites that use flash obviously |
| 03:05.07 | un214 | video card appears to not matter |
| 03:05.19 | NekawA | right un214 |
| 03:05.24 | jsedmann | many videos are still not available in html5 |
| 03:05.24 | karlpinc | NekawA: You could use vmstat or even top to find out what the cpu is doing.... |
| 03:05.25 | NekawA | unless they make some way for flash to USE the gpu |
| 03:05.30 | NekawA | then it won't matter |
| 03:05.41 | gnarface | NekawA: flash support was NOT omitted from the iphones for no reason. its got serious inherent performance problems. adobe (and in the past, macromedia) have been under fire for flash's performance problems, ESPECIALLY on non-windows platforms practically from day-1... they basically have responded by giving the whole industry the middle finger. i suggest you consider putting your effort behind html5 video through theora - ogg h |
| 03:05.41 | gnarface | as always been known for low cpu requirements |
| 03:05.46 | jsedmann | for example, videos with ads in the video, can't be viewed over html5 |
| 03:06.22 | karlpinc | Nobody can hit me with a clue regards my dd problem? |
| 03:06.25 | NekawA | yes, this is stated on the html5 trial |
| 03:06.29 | NekawA | but some videos are better then no videos |
| 03:06.35 | NekawA | and right now I can view zero videos in flash |
| 03:06.48 | un214 | I ran flash over remote X once, no problem except for no sound and high mouse latency |
| 03:06.49 | gnarface | NekawA: well they're fine if you're not in fullscreen, right? |
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| 03:07.02 | NekawA | once again, fine is debatable |
| 03:07.11 | NekawA | a window thats 300x300, yea it plays okay |
| 03:07.24 | NekawA | if the window is 1024x768 it starts getting choppy |
| 03:07.37 | NekawA | put it 1920x1080 window with the youtube vid takin' up 1/2 the screen and its just as bad as fullscreen |
| 03:07.41 | gnarface | NekawA: hehe. so drop your desktop resolution to pretend its fullscreen, ... or just grow a spine and boycot the shitty product like it deserves! |
| 03:07.54 | NekawA | haha |
| 03:08.00 | NekawA | well its not about boycotting the product at this point |
| 03:08.01 | somiaj | grab youtube-dl and use use mplayer |
| 03:08.11 | NekawA | its about boycotting the sites that use it |
| 03:08.27 | NekawA | somiaj i probaly will for youtube, but that still doesn't help me with my other sites that use flash |
| 03:08.33 | NekawA | which as of lately seems to be EVERY streaming site |
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| 03:08.49 | gnarface | NekawA: well i've had some limited luck with lower-bitrate flv's by overclocking my video card ram through nvclock - but this is only gonna work on nvidia cards. you'll have to look for an analogous solution with other vendor's cards. |
| 03:09.00 | NekawA | oh well, i'll just load up the gaming rig when i want a flash vid' i guess |
| 03:09.00 | somiaj | hmm, I play many flash videos just fine at 1920x1080 resolution, its just youtube's player that was laggy for me. |
| 03:09.23 | gnarface | NekawA: but then you're shortening your video card lifespan just to play flash ... is it really worth it? its easer to just download the flv and use ffmpeg to convert it to something sane (like any other format at all) |
| 03:09.35 | NekawA | yea ,maybe if i run a .flv or .mp4 in vlc after d/l'ing it |
| 03:09.55 | NekawA | this gpu is like 533mhz |
| 03:10.11 | NekawA | no its not worth it, this htpc might be a fanless system i'm not 100% sure, o/c'ing might be the end of it |
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| 03:10.34 | OldParr | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/pic0003hu.jpg/ |
| 03:10.41 | gnarface | i would just download it, and transcode it to mp4 - my cpu is well fast enough to transcode most video formats to other formats in faster than realtime, so i can just pipe ffmpeg's stdout to something else's stdin (like mplayer, vlc, xine, etc) |
| 03:11.22 | NekawA | hmm, how does .udev/ already exist on the static dev, and why can't it create /dev/shm |
| 03:11.36 | OldParr | nothing happened it reamains with trouble |
| 03:11.37 | somiaj | youtube provides lots of vids in mp4 format too, just throw the right option to youtube-dl |
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| 03:11.47 | somiaj | again not useful for many other sites, but you can download their videos too |
| 03:12.08 | gnarface | NekawA:^^(re: my last comment) in fact, the fact i can do THAT and playing through the actual flash plugin dwarfs the overall cpu load and plays worse, is a testiment to flash's inherent suckiness |
| 03:12.21 | karlpinc | OldParr: What happens if you press the enter key? Do you get a request for password or a prompt? |
| 03:12.30 | OldParr | NekawA: i tried erasin .udev and it does not worked |
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| 03:12.49 | NekawA | he already has a prompt for PW |
| 03:12.54 | NekawA | that : u can type PW |
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| 03:13.12 | OldParr | karlpinc: it does not accepts keyboard input in that screen |
| 03:13.13 | jpinx | I want to run youtube-dl in squeeze, but it is only packaged for wheezy. Is there a backport? |
| 03:13.20 | NekawA | but oldparr I don't know what your problem is, but i would say that the udev and the unable to mount /dev/shm thing might have something to do with it |
| 03:13.30 | jpinx | I don't see anything listed :( |
| 03:13.39 | NekawA | isn't there a iceweasel addon you can just use for YT-dL? |
| 03:13.48 | karlpinc | OldParr: So, if you put in the root password you get a prompt? |
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| 03:14.10 | somiaj | NekawA: sure, I just like the command line version then I don't have to even load the page. |
| 03:14.15 | somiaj | NekawA: just get the link |
| 03:14.21 | OldParr | NekawA: it do not accepts keyboard input |
| 03:14.38 | NekawA | gotcha somiaj |
| 03:14.40 | somiaj | OldParr: at this point might want to just backup personal data and reinstall |
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| 03:14.52 | forero | hi |
| 03:14.55 | NekawA | wow that sucks oldparr i had an install go wrong like that |
| 03:14.59 | NekawA | i installed encrypted |
| 03:15.01 | karlpinc | OldParr: I'd suggest booting off the install cd in rescue mode. Then you can run "fsck -fy /dev/whatever" to fix your root filesystem. |
| 03:15.12 | NekawA | LVM, then when it asked for password the numlock light went off on keyboard |
| 03:15.14 | NekawA | and it wouldn'tn take password |
| 03:15.27 | NekawA | never got it fixed |
| 03:15.28 | forero | how can I dump ram memory? |
| 03:15.54 | OldParr | karlpinc: i am going to try fsck -fy /dev |
| 03:16.26 | karlpinc | OldParr: You need to know what's mounted as / in /dev. What device name to use. |
| 03:17.36 | OldParr | when i was upgrading i was reading something about the posibility of getting renamed all the devices and the warning that it may give you problems may be that is the case ... |
| 03:19.06 | karlpinc | OldParr: What did you do to get this problem? Upgrade major releases? Did you follow the instructions in the release notes? It has suggestions for when you don't and things go wrong. |
| 03:19.17 | NekawA | yea oldparr that could be the case |
| 03:19.28 | NekawA | if thats it though u can boot in recovery mode and run blkid and just rename them in fstab |
| 03:19.59 | NekawA | but i mean u should still get the initrd prompt and it should say not able to find root dir if that was the case |
| 03:21.30 | karlpinc | OldParr: Were you upgrading lenny to squeeze? If so the kernel and udev must be upgraded separately. You could try a resuce cd and chroot in and upgrade the kernel and udev per the release notes. |
| 03:21.37 | OldParr | NekawA: http://paste.debian.net/127782/ |
| 03:21.58 | jpinx | ok -- I'll ask a different question ;) How does one download videos from youtube in squeeze ? |
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| 03:23.01 | NekawA | so look in your /etc/fstab oldparr it looks like /dev/sda* is your linux drive |
| 03:23.20 | NekawA | so if /etc/fstab is referencing /dev/sda then thats probably not the issue |
| 03:23.46 | NekawA | thats the only thing that warning would have changed, it would have replaced /dev/sda1 in fstab with UUID=b47c7447474etc |
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| 03:24.41 | OldParr | NekawA: http://paste.debian.net/127783/ |
| 03:26.32 | OldParr | NekawA: sorry i listed wrong /etc/fstab |
| 03:28.14 | OldParr | NekawA: this is the wright etc/fstab ---> http://paste.debian.net/127784/ |
| 03:28.19 | NekawA | lol |
| 03:29.22 | NekawA | well that one looks right, the uuid matches |
| 03:29.29 | NekawA | so you must have answered yes to that question then when u upgraded |
| 03:29.52 | un214 | I've had nothing but pain with UUID |
| 03:29.56 | OldParr | do i must chroot before running blkid |
| 03:30.07 | NekawA | all blkid is tell u the uuid |
| 03:30.09 | NekawA | u ran blkid |
| 03:30.32 | NekawA | and it showed /dev/sda1,2,5 was your linux, so its a good thing you updated the fstab to uuid, because before it was /dev/hda |
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| 03:32.36 | ksx4system | i have a bunch of Debian squeeze ready *.deb packages. how can I make repository out of it? |
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| 03:33.10 | NekawA | i wonder if possibly your disk is full oldparr |
| 03:33.15 | NekawA | after all it does say it simply cannot create something |
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| 03:33.48 | OldParr | NekawA: my disk is as empty as my bottle of OldParr |
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| 03:34.14 | NekawA | ohhh it say permission denied making /dev/shm |
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| 03:34.51 | NekawA | and what does it do when your fsck it from livecd? |
| 03:35.04 | NekawA | i'm stumped |
| 03:35.07 | OldParr | wait ... i'll show you |
| 03:35.08 | NekawA | you are in same bad position as me |
| 03:35.18 | NekawA | with no keyboard, it is hadr to do anything |
| 03:35.32 | NekawA | even if you press control-d |
| 03:35.38 | NekawA | it still doesn't give u the shell? |
| 03:36.40 | OldParr | NekawA: no shell possibility at all |
| 03:37.17 | un214 | how about init=/bin/sh |
| 03:37.33 | OldParr | NekawA: i still keep positive in mind |
| 03:37.42 | NekawA | why not backup like he say |
| 03:37.44 | NekawA | and reinstall? |
| 03:38.13 | OldParr | NekawA: reinstalling is against my principles |
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| 03:39.17 | aidalgol | ,rimshot |
| 03:39.45 | NekawA | yea I don't know what else to say - your fsck problem was like mine but you say after fsck it still doesn't work so I dunno |
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| 03:40.22 | OldParr | NekawA: somewhere somehow must be a solution |
| 03:40.32 | NekawA | but the first pic you post OldParr it says 'starting maintenence shell now' press control-d to exit etc. you say it never start this so I don't know |
| 03:40.49 | karlpinc | OldParr: Well, you could answer my questions. |
| 03:41.48 | OldParr | karlpinc: sorry i was concentrated with NekawA because i have faith on a possible solution |
| 03:42.28 | NekawA | i have no idea oldparr |
| 03:42.33 | OldParr | fsck -r /media/disk-1 ? |
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| 03:42.55 | NekawA | he is asking u a question though if you upgraded from lenny to squeeze |
| 03:43.20 | OldParr | yes i upgraded from fully updated lenny to squeeze |
| 03:43.21 | NekawA | /media/disk-1? |
| 03:43.30 | NekawA | isn't the disk /dev/sda2? |
| 03:43.47 | karlpinc | OldParr: And you did so without reading the upgrade instructions in the release notes? |
| 03:44.05 | konr | which package does contain dh_make? |
| 03:44.11 | OldParr | let me try fsck -r /dev/sda2 |
| 03:44.28 | karlpinc | konr: Use the apt-file program/package to answer that question, or packages.debian.org. |
| 03:45.02 | zykotick9 | konr, you might want to try "apt-cache search dh_make" |
| 03:45.32 | OldParr | do i must unmount /dev/sda2 before running fsck -r /dev/sda2 ? |
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| 03:47.22 | OldParr | fsck ---> http://paste.debian.net/127789/ |
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| 03:49.50 | OldParr | fdisk -l ----> http://paste.debian.net/127790/ |
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| 04:59.08 | Karen_m | i'm having trouble with ipv6, can someone help me set it up properly? |
| 05:00.27 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:01.14 | Karen_m | I added ipv6 to /etc/network/interfaces, restarted the networking, and ping6 ipv6.google.com and it comes back network unreachable |
| 05:01.18 | Karen_m | address unreachable rather |
| 05:02.07 | wols_ | do you get a ipv6 from your ISP? |
| 05:02.14 | Karen_m | yes |
| 05:02.21 | Karen_m | wols, may i please message you? |
| 05:02.42 | wols_ | no |
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| 05:54.33 | Konroes | Folks, do you recommend I shut off my WIRELESS INTERNET when I am sleeping? |
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| 05:55.19 | thogar | like, a router? |
| 05:55.22 | Konroes | Yes. |
| 05:55.31 | Bushmills | Konroes: i'd try closing eyes and shutting down brain |
| 05:55.33 | thogar | what protection does it have? |
| 05:55.40 | Konroes | Are the signals from the router potentially interfering with my body? |
| 05:56.03 | Konroes | No, not worried about security. Worried about my body while sleeping. Want the best sleep I can get. |
| 05:56.41 | Bushmills | if you're worried enough, you might want to shut it down all the time, not only during night |
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| 05:56.55 | Konroes | Bushmills: You think it's a potential issue, yes? |
| 05:57.04 | Bushmills | no, idon't think that it is |
| 05:57.33 | Bushmills | but if somebody is convinced that it is, it probably will be one |
| 05:57.38 | Konroes | Bushmills: Are you biased for being a techie type with an irrational fondness for all things electric? |
| 05:57.46 | thogar | lolol radiation? |
| 05:57.56 | thogar | the whole world is flooded with it |
| 05:58.00 | Konroes | thogar, Not radiation per se, but the waves through the air from the router. |
| 05:58.14 | thogar | harmless, imo from a router |
| 05:58.17 | thogar | unless its like 20 watts rofl |
| 05:58.29 | Konroes | thogar, Router that powers the whole home with wireless Internet. |
| 05:58.32 | Bushmills | Konroes: no. i'm just rational enough to consider that bit of added radiation irrelavant, compared to the rest i'm subjected to |
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| 05:58.53 | Konroes | Bushmills: I don't like the idea of the signals from the router bothering my body and brain all night. |
| 05:58.57 | thogar | how close is it to your head :P |
| 05:59.01 | Bushmills | then turn it off |
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| 05:59.26 | Konroes | I just got this from someone I queried in private. |
| 05:59.27 | wols_ | Konroes: then I suggest you stop using cellphones and additionally move into a shielded faraday cage |
| 05:59.27 | Konroes | What do you think? |
| 05:59.30 | Konroes | "In all fairness, wifi signals are the least of your worries. There are millions of cell phone signals floating through your skull every second of the day. One wifi signal does not come anywhere close to that kind of interference." |
| 05:59.58 | Konroes | Personally, I don't own a cell-phone and use only corded phones. |
| 06:00.05 | thogar | the strength of the router is too low |
| 06:00.10 | Bushmills | then use wired network |
| 06:00.14 | Konroes | I'm not trying to be a troll here. That's just the truth. I don't want any issues from cell-phone use. |
| 06:00.15 | thogar | its in mw probably, depending on what router |
| 06:00.25 | wols_ | Konroes: how is this all debian related? |
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| 06:00.55 | Konroes | wols_: Probably one of the better places to ask, no? |
| 06:01.04 | wols_ | no. please take it elsewhere |
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| 06:01.23 | Konroes | wols_: I've already got 3+ experts discussing it. |
| 06:01.27 | Konroes | That seems pretty good. |
| 06:01.36 | thogar | there probably is a wifi related channel actually lolol |
| 06:01.44 | wols_ | not really, as trolls go, it's subpar |
| 06:03.00 | Konroes | I looked up my city on a map for CELL PHONE TOWER SITES. |
| 06:03.05 | Konroes | My home is not too close to any of them. |
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| 06:03.20 | Konroes | Plus they tend to put them on the top of tall buildings |
| 06:03.24 | wols_ | Konroes: please stop it already. yours is not a debian support problem |
| 06:03.28 | Konroes | so they interfere relatively little with civilians on the ground. |
| 06:04.52 | Konroes | So we either discuss this or this channel goes silent. |
| 06:05.01 | thogar | o0 |
| 06:05.01 | Konroes | If there is any troll here, wols_ , it's you. |
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| 06:05.46 | Bushmills | you may have noticed that there is no discussion. there were some answers to your questions, and recently it was a monologue. |
| 06:06.00 | Konroes | Look at this: |
| 06:06.01 | Konroes | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.02 | civillian | Konroes: I am not on the ground |
| 06:06.06 | thogar | well obviously there will be some radation, just very tiny |
| 06:06.09 | Konroes | <Konroes> Isn't that a health issue? |
| 06:06.18 | Konroes | <Character7> Ofcourse it is. |
| 06:06.24 | thogar | and after a while you will get immune to it \:D/ |
| 06:06.24 | Konroes | Character7> "They" don't care. |
| 06:06.29 | Konroes | Now what do you think of that, folks? |
| 06:06.30 | Konroes | Comments? |
| 06:06.33 | SkilZ | yeah they aint good news Konroes |
| 06:06.42 | SkilZ | Cancer causing and such |
| 06:06.57 | simonlnu | it's off topic, that's what i think |
| 06:07.32 | Konroes | simonlnu: It's relevant to all of us. |
| 06:07.36 | Konroes | If not discussed here, where? |
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| 06:07.48 | bazhang | #defocus |
| 06:07.52 | simonlnu | !offtopic |
| 06:07.52 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 06:07.55 | xqix9u2v | #ubuntu |
| 06:08.00 | SkilZ | !ontopic |
| 06:08.01 | dpkg | Please stay on topic. #debian's mission is to help users of Debian solve problems and understand their Debian systems. If what you are discussing has no relationship to Debian, please move your discussion (and invite participants) to a channel where it is on topic, such as #politics, #general, #ubuntu, or #yourownchannel. Failure to moderate yourself will result in operators moderating for you. |
| 06:08.07 | Konroes | Please get some lives, trolls. |
| 06:08.11 | Bushmills | eating is relevant to all of us too, that's not a good reason to exchange cooking recipes on #debian |
| 06:08.13 | SkilZ | !newtopic |
| 06:08.25 | simonlnu | Konroes: uh, who's trolling who exactly? |
| 06:08.29 | SkilZ | !broadhorizons |
| 06:09.00 | simonlnu | respect the channels policy, or leave. |
| 06:09.04 | Konroes | simonlnu: You're being a troll by making a fuss about a legitimate discussion. |
| 06:09.12 | Konroes | A troll is an ugly loser who sits under a bridge and complains. |
| 06:09.29 | wols_ | !ops please show Konroes the door |
| 06:09.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: wols_ complains about: please show Konroes the door |
| 06:09.33 | simonlnu | no i'm not. i'm asking you to respect the channel. |
| 06:09.56 | SkilZ | In chaos we find order! |
| 06:09.56 | Konroes | <Character7> Well they probably have their houses sealed off, but occasionally they have to go out into the warzone of signals. |
| 06:10.00 | SkilZ | cDc |
| 06:10.03 | Konroes | He's talking about the elite sealing off their homes from these signals. |
| 06:10.06 | Konroes | What do you think of that? |
| 06:10.07 | simonlnu | *plonk* |
| 06:10.18 | SkilZ | Cult Of The Dead Cow |
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| 06:10.47 | thogar | lets get on track here... |
| 06:10.55 | Konroes | He's saying the elite sleep in sealed homes with no signals through their brains. |
| 06:10.59 | thogar | ill start, so why do you guys use debian over other distros, such as ubuntu? |
| 06:11.16 | Konroes | <Character7> You can seal a building from allowing in or out any signals by using special paint and special window tinting... They use this type of stuff in some corporate offices that use wifi so as not to be wirelessly hacked. |
| 06:11.30 | Konroes | So it's only the masses who sleep with these signals through their brains. |
| 06:11.31 | Konroes | Wow! |
| 06:11.34 | wols_ | thogar: so you want to be the next troll here? debian support problems, not distro advocacy |
| 06:11.49 | thogar | and thats what i get for tryin lol |
| 06:11.51 | SkilZ | Konroes, Lead walls |
| 06:11.57 | xqix9u2v | Konroes, do you know what a faraday cage is? |
| 06:12.07 | wols_ | xqix9u2v, SkilZ: please ignore the troll |
| 06:12.14 | thogar | i was merely just curious tbh |
| 06:12.25 | simonlnu | *support*, not advocacy. *hint* |
| 06:12.29 | xqix9u2v | yessir... |
| 06:12.44 | simonlnu | thank you very much |
| 06:13.41 | SkilZ | Mr the troll Konroes come to #debian-offtopic and we can talk about it |
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| 06:13.57 | SkilZ | Mr the plague |
| 06:14.33 | Konroes | SkilZ: It says I am banned there. |
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| 06:14.46 | SkilZ | hmm |
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| 06:15.23 | civillian | perhaps he was asking a debian support question in there |
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| 06:17.06 | SkilZ | haha |
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| 06:17.20 | SkilZ | Konroes, come to #fluxbox-chitchat |
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| 06:21.57 | SkilZ | What is the benefits of upgrading to 3.0 kernel on an older system if any? |
| 06:22.36 | wols_ | !tell SkilZ about sns |
| 06:22.36 | streuner | if you dont know, you prolly dont need it... |
| 06:22.43 | nevyn | SkilZ: new hardware support maybe if that affects you. regression fixes maybe |
| 06:22.58 | nevyn | but if what you've got works then... fugeddaboutit |
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| 06:24.44 | SkilZ | okay then cheers |
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| 06:38.54 | sweetandy | Can anything bad happen if /dev/sdb is a USB stick and I run # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4M |
| 06:39.09 | sweetandy | like, when it reaches the end of /dev/sdb, what happens? |
| 06:39.19 | nevyn | it stops. |
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| 06:39.34 | nevyn | so if you do that be aware that the device still contains blocks with data. |
| 06:39.53 | sweetandy | Just \0 though |
| 06:40.05 | sweetandy | Alright, thanks |
| 06:40.06 | nevyn | nope. |
| 06:40.24 | nevyn | the flash chips will still contain actual data |
| 06:40.32 | nevyn | recovery is difficult but not impossible. |
| 06:40.42 | sweetandy | Oh, I see what you're getting at |
| 06:40.49 | sweetandy | Wait, I can never use this stick after I do this? |
| 06:40.58 | nevyn | (because the system controller does wear leveling and bad block marking) |
| 06:41.11 | nevyn | sweetandy: no you can do that. |
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| 06:41.36 | sweetandy | You mean... the software that operates the USB stick then? |
| 06:41.45 | sweetandy | internally? |
| 06:41.49 | sweetandy | soft/firm |
| 06:42.24 | nevyn | so the nand memory chip will have some blocks which were marked bad that are no longer addressable by the operating system |
| 06:42.38 | nevyn | marked bad in firmware |
| 06:42.43 | sweetandy | AAHHH brilliant |
| 06:43.12 | nevyn | whatever was on those blocks. is still in the original locations in the nand. |
| 06:43.17 | nevyn | and the os can't get them |
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| 06:43.29 | sweetandy | Thank you very much! |
| 06:43.33 | nevyn | but if you pull the chip and read it with a microcontroller or something you're golden |
| 06:43.41 | sweetandy | haha |
| 06:43.46 | wols_ | SSDs can be securely reased sometimes since they have firmware commands for it. USB sticks don't. at least I've never even heard of them |
| 06:43.52 | sweetandy | I'm not masochistic |
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| 06:44.24 | nevyn | sweetandy: I'm capable of doing that attack so I consider it valid |
| 06:44.52 | sweetandy | For hardware geeks, power to you. I am not that technically informed. |
| 06:45.42 | mosno | but if a block is bad, how can you retrieve any data from it? |
| 06:46.04 | mosno | or is it just "marked" bad but actually fine? and if so, wouldn't any self-respecting SSD erase that block first? |
| 06:46.12 | nevyn | sweetandy: so it's a tradeoff between the damage from releaseof whatever was on it vs the value of the usbkey at $40 + environmental concerns |
| 06:46.14 | mosno | pardon my ignorance... |
| 06:46.24 | nevyn | mosno: so flash cells have limited write cycles. |
| 06:46.31 | mosno | nevyn, yes... |
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| 06:47.04 | nevyn | mosno: so when it's marked bad. a spare block is assigned and the data is read from the bad block and written to the new spare block |
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| 06:47.24 | nevyn | but as it's bad for write most firmware doesn't attempt to wipe the now bad block |
| 06:47.31 | sweetandy | nevyn: I'm not particularly concerned with the data that was on *this* device, but thanks for your knowledge; you've given me something to read up on when I get more curious. |
| 06:47.39 | nevyn | because the failure mode is you can't write to it |
| 06:47.47 | mosno | nevyn, so it is near death but still technically readable |
| 06:48.07 | nevyn | mosno: the failure mode of flash is not that you can't read it. it's that you can't write it. |
| 06:48.15 | mosno | hmm, i see |
| 06:48.21 | mosno | that sucks |
| 06:48.38 | sweetandy | Somebody had to invent these things with this in mind. I appreciate those people. |
| 06:49.02 | mosno | i wonder if there are devices that can do a proper erase before it is too late? |
| 06:49.18 | nevyn | mosno: so the bigger problem is if the cell has actually failed. |
| 06:49.23 | nevyn | and you try to wipe it. |
| 06:49.45 | nevyn | you might get 30% of the bits setting to 0 or something |
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| 06:50.36 | mosno | nevyn, okay, but what if a device could pre-emptively erase and mark bad the block a bit earlier in the lifecycle? does this feature exist? |
| 06:50.47 | sauvin | mosno, yes. It's called a sledgehammer. |
| 06:50.49 | mosno | ie. "premature/pre-emptive bad block marking" or something |
| 06:52.03 | sweetandy | you guys are the best. IRC and documentation is all I freaking need to be happy in life. |
| 06:52.07 | sweetandy | Caio |
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| 06:52.17 | sweetandy | Ciao? whoops |
| 06:53.18 | mosno | sauvin, yeah. or LUKS, i guess |
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| 07:00.47 | shirish | hi all, does anybody know how to test audio under Debian ? |
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| 07:03.33 | ben42 | hello, may i list the installed packages with the repository name (update, security, backport etc) ? |
| 07:03.48 | VI | shirish you can use aplay |
| 07:04.10 | shirish | VI: can aplay play .ogg files ? |
| 07:04.19 | ben42 | i looked into dpkg-query -W -f but i can't find a variable for that |
| 07:05.05 | VI | shirish aplay Is to test hardware for musique player you can use xmms, xmms2, totem, amarok... |
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| 07:05.52 | wols_ | !tell shirish about alsa checklist |
| 07:06.12 | shirish | VI: how to test hardware |
| 07:06.17 | wols_ | ben42: not really doable since the repos where you installed from might be long gone or have totally changed |
| 07:06.18 | shirish | using aplay |
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| 07:07.56 | shirish | wols_: thanx, no clue how to add myself to the audio group. |
| 07:08.20 | wols_ | shirish: what does "id" say? |
| 07:08.29 | VI | shirish: 'aplay -L' to list tour hardware, 'speaker-test' to test audio |
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| 07:10.13 | Traubert | audio doesn't auto-work on my cheap crappy netbook, is there any package that wants a bugreport? |
| 07:11.12 | shirish | wols_: id shows this uid=1000(shirish) gid=1000(shirish) groups=1000(shirish),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),108(netdev),109(bluetooth),115(scanner) |
| 07:11.24 | VI | In audio you have to check If you use alsa driver or oss. |
| 07:12.17 | shirish | VI: how do I check that ? |
| 07:12.31 | wols_ | so you are in the audio group after all |
| 07:12.50 | VI | shirish list your package with 'dpkg -l' |
| 07:12.53 | ben42 | wols_, i mean something like the information i get with the apt-cache policy |
| 07:12.53 | wols_ | shirish: you don't need to since you will know if you use OSS |
| 07:13.07 | VI | shirish and check If you have alsa package |
| 07:13.10 | wols_ | ben42: and I told you why this is not really possible |
| 07:13.29 | wols_ | shirish: did you see what dpkg messaged you? did you follow it? |
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| 07:14.15 | shirish | wols_: tried it, but didn't get anywhere. |
| 07:14.38 | ben42 | wols_, well i always get an answer with apt-cache policy |
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| 07:15.34 | wols_ | ben42: answer about the current state of your repos. nothing about the past which is what you were asking |
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| 07:18.34 | shirish | wols_: VI: this is what I get when I try the command to list alsa users |
| 07:18.47 | shirish | $ fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer |
| 07:18.47 | shirish | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:18.47 | shirish | /dev/snd/controlC0: shirish 24649 F.... pulseaudio |
| 07:18.47 | shirish | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:20.53 | VI | shirish you use pulseaudio your probably using gnome right ? |
| 07:21.23 | shirish | VI: yes, I'm on gnome. |
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| 07:21.40 | shirish | wols_: VI: the paste just in case it didn't come right. http://paste.debian.net/127800/ |
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| 07:22.42 | VI | shirish In gnome panel you test sound and system have you try that ? |
| 07:22.54 | VI | (you can) |
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| 07:27.05 | shirish | VI: I got the sound from the gnome-panel custom sound things. |
| 07:27.17 | shirish | in alert sounds. |
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| 07:28.11 | shirish | VI: that works/worked. |
| 07:29.38 | shirish | Vl: thanx, that was the thing. think the sound volume was too low as well as the speaker volume. I just had to do both of them and everything is working fine. Thanx. |
| 07:29.45 | shirish | out. |
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| 07:41.01 | warpzero | is there some way to sort installed packages by size |
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| 07:54.58 | e-anima | hi |
| 07:54.59 | e-anima | http://pastebin.com/v2Qtey36 |
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| 07:55.03 | e-anima | shouldnt that work? |
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| 07:58.14 | VI | e-anima you should specify '#! /bin/sh' at the begning of your script |
| 07:58.54 | aidalgol | e-anima: 1) The script should start with the line #!/bin/sh , 2) are the read flags set appropriately? and 3) you should make a symbolic link instead (pass the -s option to ln). |
| 07:59.13 | e-anima | yep i gave it chmod +x |
| 07:59.32 | aidalgol | That's execute, now read. |
| 07:59.34 | aidalgol | *not |
| 08:00.11 | e-anima | r is also set |
| 08:01.06 | aidalgol | ok, not that then. |
| 08:01.22 | aidalgol | What about 1) and 2)? |
| 08:01.44 | e-anima | ah i doscovered some missing export stuff for java |
| 08:01.46 | e-anima | one sec |
| 08:01.49 | aidalgol | ah |
| 08:03.58 | Konroes | I just read that old homes using plaster |
| 08:04.02 | Konroes | are effective faraday cages. |
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| 08:04.24 | Konroes | "Pre dry-wall, many homes used plaster applied to lath, or chicken wire -- essentially creating a giant Faraday cage for the homeowner." |
| 08:04.30 | Konroes | Interesting, no? |
| 08:04.42 | Konroes | And now when we most need faraday cages for our homes, we are using dry-wall! |
| 08:05.04 | aidalgol | Konroes: It's a conspiracy! |
| 08:05.28 | Konroes | I can assure you, aidalgol , that they elite are not living in dry-walled homes. |
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| 08:06.45 | Konroes | so basically |
| 08:06.49 | Konroes | the elite are living in Faraday cages |
| 08:06.56 | Konroes | while the masses are completely exposed. |
| 08:07.02 | Konroes | And you think nothing of that. |
| 08:08.02 | Konroes | You folks are too easy. |
| 08:08.33 | Konroes | Too easy to posion, too easy to scramble, too easy to abuse. |
| 08:08.40 | Konroes | And you come back for more. |
| 08:08.47 | Konroes | You worship the elite who treat you like scum. |
| 08:08.53 | Konroes | Gotta love that. |
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| 08:09.00 | Konroes | LICK MY BOOTS, SCUM. |
| 08:09.07 | Konroes | And you do it because you like it. |
| 08:09.23 | Konroes | You like feeling like SCUM beneath the boots that kcik and trample you. |
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| 08:10.01 | e-anima | 11 |
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| 08:10.28 | aidalgol | Konroes: Actually, my house is almost 100 years old, and the plaster walls have joot mesh in them. |
| 08:10.33 | Konroes | LICK HIS DIRTY BOOTS, SCUM. |
| 08:10.45 | Konroes | aidalgol: , Meaning what? |
| 08:10.51 | Konroes | Have you got a Faraday cage or not? |
| 08:10.51 | e-anima | i built my own aluminium hat! |
| 08:10.59 | aidalgol | *jute |
| 08:11.12 | aidalgol | Konroes: No. Plant material. |
| 08:11.21 | wols_ | please don't feed Konroes and take offtopic chatter elsewhere |
| 08:11.24 | Konroes | aidalgol: How do you know it's not a Faraday cage? |
| 08:11.49 | aidalgol | Konroes: OK, I'm gonna stop now, since the topic police have arrived. I just wanted to mention that. |
| 08:12.10 | aidalgol | *that about my house |
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| 08:12.22 | e-anima | http://pastebin.com/e6A5QZrP this does not work, but i can start if if i am directly in /opt/solr/example, so there must be something wrong with the path i guess? |
| 08:12.44 | wamani-peter | hello. |
| 08:12.55 | e-anima | i added it to /etc/profile like: JAVA_HOME='/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/' export JAVA_HOME |
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| 08:13.52 | wamani-peter | this is peter and harison from dreamfish place nairobi |
| 08:14.07 | boudiccas | wamani-peter; irrelevant |
| 08:14.21 | wamani-peter | we would like to know how to install debian into virtualbox |
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| 08:14.48 | wamani-peter | can someone help pls |
| 08:16.17 | boudiccas | wamani-peter; do you have the cd or dvd number 1 of debian? |
| 08:16.18 | webad_13 | how can I set up /network/interfraces wlan0 to automatically connect on RFswitch - so when press the button to turn wireless on that it connects to the network (tried with allow-hotplug, but no luck) |
| 08:16.56 | wamani-peter | not yet we have just downloaded the OS |
| 08:17.40 | boudiccas | wamani-peter; let us know when you've got it and we can proceed further |
| 08:17.53 | wamani-peter | thanks |
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| 08:23.47 | Konroes | WHAT HAPPENED TO aidalgol ? |
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| 08:24.15 | Konroes | IF ANYONE IN HERE SEES aidalgol SPEAK, kindly drop me a note in private. |
| 08:24.29 | Konroes | If you see aidalgol any time in the next 5 days, let me know. |
| 08:25.13 | Konroes | By the way |
| 08:25.33 | Konroes | if anyone is interested in great deals on a genuine Faraday cage Inn, drop me a line in private. |
| 08:28.34 | Digdilem | wow, you're annoying. |
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| 08:34.57 | cityLights | how to block a certain version of a package from being installed? |
| 08:35.21 | cityLights | I dont want to upgrade to package foobar version 48 |
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| 08:35.29 | cityLights | 47 is good for me |
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| 08:36.05 | xqix9u2v | Konroes, as paranoid as u are i am surprise you arent cloaked |
| 08:36.41 | xqix9u2v | oops |
| 08:36.44 | Digdilem | cityLights, i don't know the bot shortcuts, but googling for "package pinning apt" should help |
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| 08:37.39 | wols_ | .!hold |
| 08:37.41 | wols_ | !hold |
| 08:37.41 | dpkg | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771. |
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| 08:38.58 | wfq | hi guys |
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| 08:39.16 | wfq | what is the most popular UML tool used in Debian please? |
| 08:39.29 | xqix9u2v | hi |
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| 08:40.19 | wfq | I can guess gaphor |
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| 08:41.39 | cityLights | wols_: doesnt work for me |
| 08:41.57 | cityLights | in maemo |
| 08:42.00 | cityLights | echo kernel-power-modules hold |dpkg --set-selections |
| 08:42.14 | cityLights | then apt-get install mobilehotspot |
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| 08:42.32 | cityLights | I get: The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 08:42.32 | cityLights | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.57 | wols_ | cityLights: which debian version is this? |
| 08:43.07 | wols_ | !maemo |
| 08:43.07 | dpkg | Maemo is a development platform to create applications for the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet and other maemo compliant handheld devices. http://maemo.org/ #maemo on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 08:44.48 | asdjaputra | hello |
| 08:45.10 | asdjaputra | my friend wants to know if wi-fi drivers are available with debian :facepalm |
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| 08:45.14 | asdjaputra | but idk, is it? |
| 08:45.19 | decio_ | lol |
| 08:45.34 | asdjaputra | decio_, wi-fi type please |
| 08:45.42 | asdjaputra | wireless card* |
| 08:45.55 | decio_ | ? |
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| 08:46.08 | wols_ | asdjaputra: shouldn't you tell us what wlan chip your friend has? |
| 08:46.23 | asdjaputra | i'm asking him |
| 08:46.27 | asdjaputra | decio_. |
| 08:46.43 | decio_ | I don't know, ubuntu comes with them.. I have no ideo |
| 08:46.58 | wols_ | decio_: lspci -nn |
| 08:47.02 | e-anima | that seems to be a really bad way to start up jetty. what do you think? http://pastebin.com/LMzKUbkE |
| 08:48.01 | decio_ | http://paste.opensuse.org/11270288 |
| 08:48.07 | decio_ | it shows this |
| 08:49.14 | xqix9u2v | wfq, software ideas modeler looks kinda nice although idk if it is in repos |
| 08:49.32 | wols_ | !rtl8191se |
| 08:49.32 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8191SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8171, 10ec:8172) and RTL8192SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8173, 10ec:8174, some 10ec:8192) are PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192se) is in mainline since Linux 3.0. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 08:49.56 | asdjaputra | so you have to download 3.0? |
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| 08:50.34 | Konroes | Folks, KTWO HAS JUST BOOKED HIS FRIDAY NIGHT STAY AT A GENUINE FARADAY CAGE INN. |
| 08:50.39 | Konroes | Would anyone else like to join him>? |
| 08:50.46 | ajikeshi | xqix9u2v, looks like windows only |
| 08:51.09 | decio_ | asdjaputra, what do I do? |
| 08:51.26 | asdjaputra | add contrib and non-free repos |
| 08:51.42 | babilen | Konroes: Do you have a Debian related question? |
| 08:51.43 | decio_ | what? |
| 08:52.40 | wols_ | ,kernels |
| 08:52.41 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); wheezy: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny3) |
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| 08:54.13 | Konroes | babilen: I'm booking people in at a genuine Faraday cage inn. |
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| 08:54.33 | Konroes | babilen: Special deals are going out. Already booked in two #debian users for this Friday. |
| 08:54.41 | Konroes | babilen: Contact me in private if you wish to join them. |
| 08:55.23 | babilen | Konroes: Take it elsewhere. |
| 08:55.48 | asdjaputra | Konroes, advertising? |
| 08:55.50 | Konroes | babilen: Special favor exclusively for ##debian users. Honestly, you're going to be amazed at what you feel |
| 08:55.55 | Konroes | after sleeping in a genuine Faraday cage. |
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| 08:56.20 | asdjaputra | uh.. |
| 08:56.23 | decio_ | wols, how do I get Debian with the drivers for my wi-fi connection? |
| 08:56.41 | xqix9u2v | right you are, you would need mono to run on Linux... |
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| 08:57.10 | xqix9u2v | ajikeshi, ^^ |
| 08:57.14 | asdjaputra | decio_, refer tohttp://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54167 |
| 08:57.20 | asdjaputra | decio_, refer to http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54167 |
| 08:57.55 | ajikeshi | xqix9u2v, apparently... |
| 08:59.45 | xqix9u2v | been a bit since i use netbeans or eclipse |
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| 09:00.59 | xqix9u2v | ajikeshi, what do you use? |
| 09:01.19 | ajikeshi | nothing.. but im looking for an good uml tool as well |
| 09:01.27 | ajikeshi | umbrello is not that bad |
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| 09:01.44 | xqix9u2v | ubuntu ships w/a bunch of mono apps |
| 09:02.01 | xqix9u2v | thought maybe debian might as well |
| 09:02.41 | xqix9u2v | kinda old |
| 09:02.58 | ajikeshi | yes.. |
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| 09:03.06 | ajikeshi | mono is not really nevessary |
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| 09:08.32 | ferni | hi, where to report a problem with backports package? audacious-plugins in squeeze-backports is broken on amd64 and cannot be installed due to dependencies to wheezy |
| 09:09.38 | ferni | there is a mail in mailing list but nothing has happened.. http://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2011/08/msg00068.html |
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| 09:20.34 | omido | i have a ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 card. i followed the instructions on the wiki . now i'm gonna install fglrx usint software center but it says it belongs to AT r6xx-r7xx drivers. should it apply to my card to ? |
| 09:21.28 | wols_ | yes. see the output of lspci -nn|grep VGA of course |
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| 09:21.45 | wols_ | s/of course/for example/ |
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| 09:25.56 | killown | Where I can get the package xtables-addons-common?, its not available on the main repositories |
| 09:26.26 | babilen | !tell omido -about fglrx dkms |
| 09:27.00 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | what is the utility that gnome uses to take screenshots pressing the print screen button? |
| 09:27.27 | omido | babilen: how can i exit x? i'm a newbie |
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| 09:28.57 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | omido: ps -A | grep Xorg and then kill the process using PID . |
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| 09:29.47 | babilen | omido: Easiest way is probably to just run "service gdm3 restart" or exit your desktop environment. |
| 09:29.59 | babilen | omido: You have to run that as root :) |
| 09:30.07 | omido | guys isnt there an easier way to install fglrx ? i installed it on suse with just one click installer. and on ubuntu too. isnt there another way rather than dealing with the command line ? |
| 09:30.53 | babilen | ferni: The mailing list is the correct place -- Reply to the mail you've cited. |
| 09:30.57 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | babilen: can you check and tell me the name of the utility the gnome uses to take screenshots? I need to use it for my lxde |
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| 09:31.37 | babilen | sh4d3sl4y3r_: gnome-screenshot? |
| 09:32.10 | babilen | omido: It is a single command to install and configure fglrx, you "just" have to enable contrib and non-free sources before. |
| 09:32.16 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | babilen: its the one that enables gnome to take screenshots by just pressing the Print Screen? |
| 09:32.31 | babilen | sh4d3sl4y3r_: No idea, I don't use Gnome |
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| 09:32.38 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | babilen: kde? |
| 09:32.53 | babilen | sh4d3sl4y3r_: awesomewm |
| 09:32.55 | omido | babilen: i have enabled contrib using software sources. |
| 09:33.02 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | geeks :P |
| 09:33.13 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !contrib |
| 09:33.13 | dpkg | [contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ [lenny|squeeze|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then aptitude update. Also ask me about <non-free>. |
| 09:33.46 | babilen | omido: Ok, you need non-free as well -- If you could paste your /etc/apt/sources.list I can take a look or help you. But just make sure the lines end in "main contrib non-free" |
| 09:33.57 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | So contrib are basically packages that got non-free dependencies. |
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| 09:34.13 | babilen | sh4d3sl4y3r_: That is the very definition of them :) |
| 09:34.34 | omido | babilen: thankyou i'll do this. btw cant i download the package from : http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/fglrx-driver and install it ? |
| 09:34.51 | omido | i installed my wireless drivers and skype using that way |
| 09:35.00 | babilen | omido: No, you need its dependencies as well. |
| 09:35.03 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | babilen: i wanna switch to a complete free environment someday. Switched to gnash. Just the nvidia drivers are holding me to keep contrib and non-free enabled :( |
| 09:35.05 | babilen | !fglrx dkms |
| 09:35.05 | dpkg | [fglrx dkms] For Squeeze users. Ensure you have <non-free sources> added. Exit X / stop any <DM>, then as root: "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` fglrx-driver && modprobe -r radeon drm ; mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "fglrx"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf". |
| 09:35.14 | babilen | omido: Just ran that ^^^ command |
| 09:35.33 | babilen | omido: (as root!) |
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| 09:39.17 | omido | babilen: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/b9648c13 |
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| 09:46.34 | babilen | omido: More or less, I would remove the CD and add <squeeze-updates> as in http://paste.debian.net/127809/ |
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| 09:47.10 | babilen | omido: But yeah, that should do the trick. Run "apt-get update" now to activate it. |
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| 09:49.31 | omido | babilen: thankyou. i'll do this. i'm running on a very slow internet speed (10 kb/s) and the update will take too much time.i'll try installing fglrx after the full update. |
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| 09:50.07 | babilen | omido: Ok, if there is something else that is unclear let us know. |
| 09:50.53 | Bushmills | will retiring oracle's license of java distribution in linux affect squeeze, or future versions of debian only? |
| 09:51.00 | omido | babilen: thankyou. i'm too much used to opensuse's YaST.(which did all of these done for me) now i installed debian and i find nothing like YaST. and i'm trying to learn. |
| 09:51.28 | decio_ | does Debian xfce come with a graphical package manager like the software center? |
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| 09:52.30 | babilen | omido: You can Exit X/stop and DM by logging out of gnome, switching to a console (ctrl-alt-f1), logging in there as root and running "service gdm3 stop" -- I am actually thinking that this step is not necessary if you would rather like to reboot. In that case remove "; modprobe -r radeon drm" from that command and reboot once everything is installed. |
| 09:52.35 | Coornail | You can instsll synaptics |
| 09:53.19 | NekawA | omg took me forever and a day but I finally got my dom0 online :D |
| 09:54.27 | NekawA | okay now its playing games on me why would the dom0 stop forwarding |
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| 10:03.30 | bint | t |
| 10:03.35 | decio_ | does debian xfce come with a graphical sofwtware manager? Like the ubuntu software manager? |
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| 10:04.46 | archetech | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.47 | decio_ | ?!? |
| 10:04.56 | decio_ | taks |
| 10:05.02 | decio_ | thanks |
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| 10:05.26 | archetech | yw |
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| 10:07.20 | jargon- | i've got a 1tb seagate freeagent goflex and i'm trying to rename it with `e2label /dev/sdf1 jargon1tb`, but i get this error: "e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdf1. Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock." it's a brand new external usb drive,and i can copy to it just fine from file manager. |
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| 10:08.10 | fladd | is anyone here familiar with serial port programming and can answer me a question? |
| 10:08.19 | wols_ | jargon-: what filesystem does sdf1 use? |
| 10:08.33 | wols_ | !tell fladd about anyone |
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| 10:08.56 | jargon- | wols_: fdisk -l says: /dev/sdf1 63 1953520127 976760032+ 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT |
| 10:09.15 | wols_ | jargon-: and now you know why e2label cannot work |
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| 10:09.29 | jargon- | i do? |
| 10:09.36 | jargon- | oh |
| 10:09.38 | jargon- | i do |
| 10:09.56 | wols_ | ntfsprogs has what you need btw |
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| 10:10.09 | fladd | The Serial Port input receive buffer defined in the kernel is 4096 bytes, right? Why is it, that when an external device sends 1 byte per ms, after 5 seconds the receive buffer is not full with 4096 bytes, but fluctuates around 3970? |
| 10:10.09 | jargon- | is there anything else i could use to rename it,without reformatting the drive? |
| 10:10.24 | jargon- | wols_: oh ok |
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| 10:14.24 | archetech | wols; does ext3-4 handle both ntfs files as well as linux files? |
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| 10:15.04 | archetech | I am setting up my first samba server |
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| 10:16.09 | archetech | or do I need 2 sep partitions |
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| 10:17.19 | xqix9u2v | archetech, nope either will be fine for samba |
| 10:18.22 | archetech | ok |
| 10:18.49 | xqix9u2v | if it is your first samba server i would read about SWAT for setting it up... |
| 10:19.02 | archetech | yes I've heard it helps |
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| 10:25.13 | gilesw | heya all |
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| 10:25.29 | Onryo | I am working on a Debian squeeze live distro that can be booted from a USB/CD. Head that there is a kernel that can be booted on almost any architecture. Is this true? |
| 10:25.49 | gilesw | I'm using this to stop apt prompting for config file changes on package installation |
| 10:25.50 | gilesw | DPkg::Options::=--force-confold |
| 10:25.50 | dpkg | gilesw: bugger all, i dunno |
| 10:25.58 | gilesw | oops |
| 10:26.21 | gilesw | but i'm still prompted for service restarts |
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| 10:27.49 | ghoulsblade | hi all, i've got machine running 2.6.18 that i can't update to newer kernel, ran fine as vm, but trying to start it native it hangs during bootup saying "waiting for root fs", that means it has loaded the kernel, but somehow couldn't find the rest ? since it's all on one big partition (no extra /boot or so), that's a bit surprising |
| 10:28.01 | VI | Onryo you can dowload a debian live multiarch iso I think you can probably find some anwser on It |
| 10:28.29 | mjt | ghoulsblade: the most obvious cause is that it does not have drivers for your disk controller |
| 10:29.01 | mjt | ghoulsblade: it has drivers for virtual controller but obviously it is not the same as your host machine |
| 10:29.27 | ghoulsblade | humm, interesting. but how did it load the kernel then ? did grub do that but the loaded kernel couldn't access the partition afterward ? |
| 10:29.28 | mjt | ghoulsblade: which vm is/was it? |
| 10:29.37 | ghoulsblade | vmware |
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| 10:30.12 | Onryo | VI since I am about 95% done with "my distro" was wondering if it is enough to just pull a hybrid kernel. Might be a dumb question? |
| 10:30.13 | ghoulsblade | tried in virtualbox too, boots but crashes /hangs randomly when i use multiple processors, so i gave up on that |
| 10:30.27 | mjt | a virtual machine - vmware in particular - _emulates_ hardware. from the virtual machine it looks like real hardware (some scsi card), but in reality vmware catches all access to it and uses "anti-driver" to interpret all requests as if it were real hw. |
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| 10:31.29 | ghoulsblade | yep, makes sense. so i need to recompile the kernel with some module for the right hardware, or install some debian package with drivers as kernel modules ? |
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| 10:31.54 | ghoulsblade | back in a bit, dinnertime =) |
| 10:32.03 | mjt | Onryo: you can't have kernel that works on any architecture. like, x86 and sparc are very different beasts |
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| 10:33.19 | asdjaputra | one more debian user :) |
| 10:33.21 | wols_ | archetech: I dont understand your question. what are "ntfs files"? |
| 10:33.26 | Onryo | mjt thats what I thought. Kind of scratching my head when I heard about a "iso-hybrid" |
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| 10:34.01 | wols_ | iso hybrid means the filesystem inside that ISO file works both for CDs and for harddisks |
| 10:34.13 | wols_ | like the debian install ISO for example |
| 10:34.26 | mjt | and as usb stick |
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| 10:34.46 | mjt | so the image can be written to almost any media and you can boot from it |
| 10:34.47 | wols_ | usb sticks are harddisks |
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| 10:35.12 | mjt | well, for some definition of "disk" anyway :) |
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| 10:35.40 | mjt | the interface is the same, but usually for a consumer that's unimportant detail |
| 10:35.44 | wols_ | ok, they are a "randomly accessible blockdevice" just like harddisks are. satisfied? |
| 10:35.59 | Onryo | What exactly is the multi-arch iso-cd ? |
| 10:36.22 | mjt | there, multi-arch usually means i386 and amd64 |
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| 10:36.39 | mjt | ie, multiple variants, so to say, of the same base arch |
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| 10:36.56 | wols_ | !multiarch |
| 10:36.56 | dpkg | Debian is working towards the ability to install packages from one architecture on a machine that is running a different architecture. This makes i386/amd64 issues simpler (no more ia32-libs!), helps tag firmware blobs with the correct arch and allows easier cross-compiling and bootstrapping. For further details see http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch http://lists.debian.org/20110627105453.GC31198@virgil.dodds.net |
| 10:37.17 | wols_ | multiarch is a release goal of wheezy |
| 10:37.21 | mjt | there's no reason to produce an ISO which has x86 and sparc binaries for example, because they share very little |
| 10:37.45 | wols_ | and more importantly, there is no hardware which can use both :) |
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| 10:39.01 | mjt | it may be fun to release an iso with _every_ architecture which is supported by debian |
| 10:39.17 | mjt | dunno if it's possible to boot such a thing :) |
| 10:39.19 | Onryo | wols_ I am starting to feel the joy =) I also have a wheezy VM that I could make a live USB out of. Is it enough to just pull a linux-image and make it multiarch ? |
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| 10:39.51 | wols_ | Onryo: I don't understand your question |
| 10:40.13 | SammyTheSnake | when I was doing a safe-upgrade the other day I had a message from apt-listchanges that I would like to see again, but I'm not sure exactly which package prompted the message, is there a way to find that out based on the files in /var/log/apt/ ? |
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| 10:42.41 | Onryo | wols_ As of now I am using linux-image3.0.0-1-486 in this VM. Linux is as you know the kernel. Was wondering if I could replace that kernel to make my live USB work with any computer. |
| 10:43.17 | Onryo | wols_ aka multiarch |
| 10:43.41 | Onryo | wols_ sounds a bit far fetched |
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| 10:44.31 | SammyTheSnake | more specifically, I'd like to re-read the message that told me about a change in the paths used for 64/32 bit libraries, which affects build chains |
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| 10:52.03 | wols_ | Onryo: for a program to run on the most computers possible it needs to use the least amount of special code. meaning your 486 kernel there is the one that will run on the biggest number of machines already |
| 10:52.48 | poisonbit | howdo I get 256 colors in urxvt? if I use TERM=urxvt-256color, vim does not take it, If I use TERM=xterm-256colors, it works, but.... can has side effects, if using urxvt I export a different TERM? |
| 10:54.08 | Onryo | wols_ Agreed. All the same I did find what I was looking for. Looks like a lot of work. http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation |
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| 11:09.20 | taleon | hi |
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| 11:15.28 | dude | hello humans |
| 11:17.35 | dude | i want to move my Raid1 mdadm system disks to a SSD Raid1, do i have to install grub on those ssd drives, then rsync the mdx drive to mdy drive, editing fstab, then restart with editing grub at start and then update-grub? |
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| 11:17.46 | dude | does that work? |
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| 11:20.40 | Angstrom_ | I'm getting some SERIOUS kernel errors... Sometimes I even get FATAL ERROR: This is not a software problem! and really weird stuff like "EIX 00c4:56cf" a sample error paste is at http://pastebin.com/x3fX5KYy |
| 11:21.05 | Angstrom_ | I tried typing apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-686, and apt-get --reinstall install gnome |
| 11:21.31 | e-anima | anyone here ever imported a mysql dump from 5.0 into 5.1? somehow that does not work errors galore |
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| 11:24.56 | fosstux | Hi! What is the recommended way to install Apache Solr on Debian Squeeze? |
| 11:25.39 | dude | according to william shakespeare, take a tea first |
| 11:26.13 | e-anima | fossala aptitude install apache2 , i did it like that ^^ |
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| 11:28.49 | rafal__ | wita jest ktos z polski |
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| 11:29.35 | berarma | !pol |
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| 11:29.50 | berarma | !pl |
| 11:29.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pl is polska -> #debian-pl (on irc.freenode.net). Also, pl is a common extension for perl scripts and is sometimes used as an abbreviation for "packet loss". |
| 11:30.26 | fosstux | e-anima: I already have apache installed, but not solr |
| 11:31.26 | e-anima | i downloaded it manuelly and put it into /opt/solr |
| 11:31.34 | e-anima | then start the jetty filei n the example dir |
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| 11:31.45 | e-anima | like java -jar start.jar |
| 11:32.15 | e-anima | i use it with drupal, pretty easy to set it up for it. dunno about other systems |
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| 11:41.21 | fosstux | thx |
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| 11:42.57 | fosstux | How can I add sid repositories for some packages only? |
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| 12:00.53 | zorrolero | !tell fosstux about apt-pinning |
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| 12:02.01 | jack_tho1pson | where do i specify -ignoreABI to make X from unstable work with nvidia drivers |
| 12:02.03 | jack_tho1pson | ? |
| 12:02.14 | jack_tho1pson | xinit -ignoreABI doesn't worl |
| 12:02.25 | jack_tho1pson | neither does startx -ignoreABI |
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| 12:07.13 | jjohnson | can anyone offer me some options to reduce the size of a debian 6 install for a router, i need some toolsets but the available space for / is only 768mb and the default install takes up about 600 of that |
| 12:07.38 | jack_tho1pson | it belongs into the xorg.conf -> Section " |
| 12:08.02 | jack_tho1pson | server_layout" -> option "IgnoreABI" "true" |
| 12:08.06 | jack_tho1pson | don't you guys forget... |
| 12:08.18 | jack_tho1pson | because there will sure other people come here and ask... |
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| 12:08.37 | jack_tho1pson | xorg.conf -> Section "server_layout" -> option "IgnoreABI" "true" |
| 12:08.39 | jack_tho1pson | xorg.conf -> Section "server_layout" -> option "IgnoreABI" "true" |
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| 12:11.47 | wols_ | jjohnson: what "default" install? |
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| 12:12.00 | wols_ | if you have only that small amount of space you don't want any "defaults" |
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| 12:25.21 | bittin | Somone wants a Mac LC? |
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| 12:26.07 | dpkg | stew <~stew@freenode/staff-emeritus/stew> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 35d 20h 27m 38s ago, saying: 'bjacob: is build-essential installed?'. |
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| 12:27.13 | DSpair | Hello all. Need some help with apt.conf. We have an internal unauthenticated repo for our in-house packages. Is there a way to set the allow-unauthenticated option for that repo by default? |
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| 12:53.36 | wamani-peter | hello this is wamani and peter. pls help us install the debian on the virtual box |
| 12:53.43 | wamani-peter | we have it on the cd |
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| 12:54.00 | wamani-peter | what are we required to do? |
| 12:54.02 | deeLer | I got dnsmasq , it works as a DHCP server and a DNS forwarder. DNS names resolve, but not the local client's hostnames using DHCP |
| 12:54.08 | StucKman | how can I track the memory usage of the processes in a machine? |
| 12:54.08 | deeLer | somebody please help |
| 12:54.25 | nsadmin | wamani-peter, start by reading the install guide |
| 12:54.27 | StucKman | deeLer: it reads /etchosts |
| 12:54.28 | nsadmin | !ig |
| 12:54.29 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 12:54.56 | wamani-peter | we are reading thanks |
| 12:55.04 | rozie | deeLer: how DNS should know hostnames of the machines? |
| 12:55.22 | deeLer | Stuckman , yes, but that works, I can see clients getting an address in the syslog file , but when i ping their hostname it doesn't resolve |
| 12:55.45 | StucKman | deeLer: what does /etc/resolv.conf say? |
| 12:55.50 | deeLer | rozie: Aug 30 14:53:38 ccaartselaar dnsmasq-dhcp[1393]: DHCPACK(eth0) 192.3.1.13 00:19:b9:3b:af:50 saninetjw |
| 12:55.55 | StucKman | it should point to your own server |
| 12:56.08 | deeLer | rozie: because dnsmasq itself gives them the ips |
| 12:56.09 | rozie | but IIRC dnsmasq allows binding hostname to IP |
| 12:56.14 | StucKman | or maybe you´re trying to ping machine instead of machine.domain.org |
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| 12:56.29 | StucKman | ans you don´t have the proper serach stanza in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 12:56.38 | rozie | deeLer: it's DHCP, not DNS |
| 12:56.46 | StucKman | rozie: it does both |
| 12:56.58 | rozie | one daemon does not mean automatic data exchange |
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| 12:57.06 | StucKman | rozie: it even can accept a hostname set by the client and add it to the current DNS table |
| 12:57.22 | nsadmin | can you boot the installer as a virtual guest? |
| 12:58.47 | deeLer | StucKman: my /etc/resolv.conf points to 127.0.0.1, the "upstream" dns file is a another file |
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| 12:58.57 | deeLer | all upstream dns queries work |
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| 12:59.04 | StucKman | deeLer: I got that part |
| 12:59.36 | StucKman | deeLer: how do you ping? can you paste the complete command? just the command, not the output |
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| 13:00.28 | deeLer | root@ccaartselaar:~# nslookup saninetjw |
| 13:00.30 | deeLer | Server:127.0.0.1 |
| 13:00.31 | deeLer | Address:127.0.0.1#53 |
| 13:00.33 | deeLer | ** server can't find saninetjw: REFUSED |
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| 13:01.29 | deeLer | and now for an upstream: |
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| 13:01.31 | deeLer | root@ccaartselaar:~# nslookup ibm |
| 13:01.32 | deeLer | Server:127.0.0.1 |
| 13:01.33 | nsadmin | there would need to be a domain name server running on the same machine you're querying from |
| 13:01.34 | deeLer | Address:127.0.0.1#53 |
| 13:01.35 | deeLer | Non-authoritative answer: |
| 13:01.37 | deeLer | Name:ibm.vanmarcke.be |
| 13:01.38 | deeLer | Address: 192.56.1.200 |
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| 13:03.19 | deeLer | nsadmin; yes , dnsmasq |
| 13:03.34 | nsadmin | normally I run bind |
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| 13:03.55 | StucKman | is it that people does not read the backlog? |
| 13:04.32 | StucKman | deeLer: that means that in your resolv.conf you have a «search vanmarcke.be» stanza |
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| 13:04.51 | StucKman | deeLer: question is: what domain do you deliver to your clients? |
| 13:04.54 | deeLer | i do, want me te remove that ? |
| 13:05.03 | StucKman | deeLer: not nessesarily |
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| 13:05.12 | deeLer | it's vanmarcke.be, specified in dnsmasq.conf |
| 13:05.13 | StucKman | you can even have several «searchg» stanzas |
| 13:05.19 | StucKman | deeLer: hmmm |
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| 13:05.51 | deeLer | root@ccaartselaar:~# more /etc/dnsmasq.conf | grep vanmarcke |
| 13:05.52 | StucKman | deeLer: had you try «host saninetjw.vanmarcke.be»? |
| 13:05.53 | deeLer | domain=vanmarcke.be |
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| 13:06.39 | deeLer | root@ccaartselaar:~# nslookup saninetjw.vanmarcke.be |
| 13:06.40 | deeLer | Server:127.0.0.1 |
| 13:06.42 | deeLer | Address:127.0.0.1#53 |
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| 13:06.43 | deeLer | ** server can't find saninetjw.vanmarcke.be.vanmarcke.be: REFUSED |
| 13:06.54 | deeLer | hmmm , it seems to double the vanmarkce.be suffix |
| 13:07.06 | deeLer | i'll remove them from resolv.conf |
| 13:07.31 | StucKman | deeLer: REFUSED is strange, is like you´re not alowinf queries from itself |
| 13:07.43 | andermetalsh | hello, where in the repos is nouveau firmware? |
| 13:07.46 | StucKman | allowing* |
| 13:07.51 | deeLer | yes, some iptables maybe? |
| 13:08.10 | StucKman | andermetalsh: apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
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| 13:08.23 | StucKman | deeLer: no, that´s an answer from the DNS server itselft |
| 13:08.28 | StucKman | itself* |
| 13:09.06 | deeLer | yeah indeed |
| 13:09.15 | rozie | StucKman: not by default IIRC |
| 13:09.26 | takahiro2 | hi im using debian 6.0 squeeze and i'm getting perl errors whenever i run apt-get... such as "perl: warning: Setting locale failed" and "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory" ... Any ideas what happened? I haven't messed with perl |
| 13:09.59 | rozie | so assuming 'it (DHCP) knows hostname so it (DNS) will resolve for given IP' is not true |
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| 13:13.52 | spiekey | Hello! |
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| 13:14.14 | spiekey | how can i check if my system binaries match the packets md5sum? |
| 13:14.30 | spiekey | i think i might have a compromised box and i want to verify it with a live cd |
| 13:14.32 | deeLer | StucKman: I removed domain vanmarcke.be from the resolv.conf and the resolv_dnsmasq.conf (where the dns upstream servers are) and now it works |
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| 13:14.49 | deeLer | thanks anyway !!! |
| 13:15.07 | StucKman | deeLer: is goed! |
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| 13:15.32 | deeLer | :) |
| 13:15.56 | StucKman | spiekey: cd / && md5sum -c /var/lib/dpkg/info/package.md5sums or something like that |
| 13:19.17 | nsadmin | spiekey: or, mount the live cd (you sure it's the same version as what you have?) and use cmp in a loop |
| 13:19.50 | spiekey | i think i want debsum |
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| 13:20.21 | nsadmin | do you want to compare the content of one file to the content of another file? |
| 13:20.36 | nsadmin | if no, why a live cd? |
| 13:21.39 | nsadmin | otoh, if debsum does the job then go for it. |
| 13:22.16 | rudi_s | spiekey: If you find a good way plese tell me. My current approach is clumsy at best. Not sure if debsum works for all packages. |
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| 13:23.20 | StucKman | rudi_s: not for all because a) md5sums do not cover config files and b) not all packages have md5sums (WTH not?) |
| 13:23.40 | StucKman | spiekey: you too ^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 13:23.46 | rudi_s | StucKman: Ah, good to know. Thanks. |
| 13:23.57 | Angstrom_ | I'm having problems installing a piece of software that requires redhat-lsb version 4.0. Even Debian wheezy/unstable is 3.2. Where do I get the working lsb 4.0 source code? |
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| 13:24.33 | rudi_s | spiekey: Oh and btw. in case you want to do it manually, aptitude download _doesn't_ verify downloaded packages! |
| 13:25.12 | rudi_s | (Not mentioned in the man page ...) |
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| 13:37.15 | ap_PP | my deb box boots only in gui mode can anybody tell me how to check if some gui is installed there or not |
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| 13:37.57 | ap_PP | ?? |
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| 13:38.29 | need_suse | hay guys, is i possible that this is what I need to do in the terminal in other to get my wi-fi drivers working? |
| 13:38.47 | need_suse | su; apt-get install sudo; apt-get install firmware-realtek wireless-tools; modprobe rtl8191se; iwconfig; ifconfig wlan0 up |
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| 13:39.54 | need_suse | hay guys, is i possible that this is what I need to do in the terminal in other to get my wi-fi drivers working? |
| 13:39.54 | need_suse | <need_suse> su; apt-get install sudo; apt-get install firmware-realtek wireless-tools; modprobe rtl8191se; iwconfig; ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 13:40.02 | wols_ | ap_PP: if your debian boots in gui mode you already obviously have a gui... |
| 13:40.30 | wols_ | !rtl8191se |
| 13:40.31 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8191SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8171, 10ec:8172) and RTL8192SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8173, 10ec:8174, some 10ec:8192) are PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192se) is in mainline since Linux 3.0. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 13:40.49 | ap_PP | sorry it goes to login screen and then when i login the screen goes blank |
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| 13:41.21 | wols_ | ap_PP: press ctrl+alt+f1 and you get a text console |
| 13:41.23 | Zap-W | hey in Documentation/filesystems/nfsroot.txt dosen't state how to configure Point to point interface |
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| 13:41.48 | ap_PP | yeah i get that but how to check if gnome or kde is installed |
| 13:42.27 | RaviResck | Hey guys, i need some material to authenticate a Linux RADIUS server with a cisco router. Do you guys have anything on that way? |
| 13:42.45 | ap_PP | when i use startx it shows fatal error server is already active for display 0 |
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| 13:45.20 | boudiccas | RaviResck; what makes you think we're all guys here? |
| 13:45.46 | RaviResck | i dont think that, sorry. |
| 13:45.59 | RaviResck | [Soehnke]: guys and girls, anyone have some material on that way? |
| 13:46.15 | RaviResck | crazy irc client... |
| 13:46.21 | Soehnke | :) |
| 13:46.54 | RaviResck | [Soehnke]: sorry, dindt mean that... My irc client auto complete anything with a "," |
| 13:47.04 | Soehnke | No problem :P |
| 13:47.04 | wols_ | ap_PP: dpkg -l |grep gnome dpkg -l |grep kde for example |
| 13:47.20 | ap_PP | thanks |
| 13:47.36 | wols_ | and if you want to run startx you have to stop that graphical login first. probably /etc/init.d/gdm stop or gdm3 stop |
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| 13:50.01 | xqix9u2v | i think guys is ok to refer to plural of both sexes |
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| 13:51.54 | xqix9u2v | like "HEYYY YOU GUYS!!!!" |
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| 13:51.57 | abrotman | RaviResck: there is the libpam-radius-auth package .. is that what you want? |
| 13:52.24 | xqix9u2v | dont blame us guys, blame public television |
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| 13:52.41 | abrotman | move along |
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| 13:54.37 | RaviResck | [abrotman]: Hm, maybe. Ill take a look... I know that there is also the FREERadius package, but i want some theorical stuff. |
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| 13:55.05 | abrotman | RaviResck: when you do that goofy nick complete, it doesn't highlight me |
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| 13:55.16 | abrotman | RaviResck: which Linux is this? |
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| 13:55.53 | RaviResck | [abrotman]: Any linux. In my case, debian squeeze. |
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| 13:57.43 | DusteD | Anyone know how to try to boot from grub-rescue, I've set root and prefix, now I'd like to test it out (grub2) |
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| 13:58.13 | boudiccas | DusteD; restart? |
| 13:58.20 | boudiccas | or reboot? |
| 13:58.27 | ap_PP | hi can anybody tell me which desktop environment requires less download and how to install it ?? |
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| 13:58.29 | DusteD | restart the machine, changes are saved automaticcally when entered? |
| 13:59.09 | DusteD | long version: raid1, sda1, sdb1, sda1 dissapears from /proc/mdstat, only sdb1 is shown in md0, so I cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda. root goes away, reboot machine, I'm now in grub-rescue ^__^ |
| 13:59.58 | wols_ | DusteD: "boot" when kernel and everything else is set |
| 14:00.23 | Bushmills | ap_PP: http://wiki.debian.org/DesktopEnvironment |
| 14:00.24 | wols_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Rescue%20Mode%20%28%27%27grub%20rescue%3E%27%27%29%20Booting see the list of commands |
| 14:00.29 | DusteD | wols_, I thought so too, like when you do normal editing from the bootloader menu |
| 14:00.48 | abrotman | ap_PP: there are some very small WMs |
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| 14:00.59 | DusteD | but boot is not recognized, neigther is ? or help.. I've googled around, all I can find is "set" and "ls" |
| 14:01.30 | DusteD | ooh, insmod.. |
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| 14:02.38 | wols_ | DusteD: I suggest you look at a grub2.cfg file to see what you need to run to load your linux kernel |
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| 14:03.18 | DusteD | wols_, I know how to do that, but I'm not in a stage where grub even knows what "root" or "linux" means yet |
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| 14:03.54 | DusteD | I'm in the stage before grub have tried to read anything from disk yet, not even it's own modules |
| 14:04.16 | wols_ | that's why I told you to look at a grub2.cfg so you know what steps to take |
| 14:04.20 | dashs | Somehow exportfs was not installed with Debian 6.0 starter -- it also won't reinstall for weird dependency reasons |
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| 14:04.51 | wols_ | dashs: /msg dpkg errors /msg dpkg bat |
| 14:04.59 | DusteD | wols_ the cfg is read only after grub have access to the disk |
| 14:05.21 | wols_ | DusteD: is the grub2.cfg on your disk the only grub config file on earth? |
| 14:05.35 | DusteD | wols_, no, but the commands in there are not recognized by grub2 yet |
| 14:05.42 | DusteD | because grub2 haven't loaded any modules |
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| 14:06.31 | DusteD | nvm, I'll read through the docs, can see I have a lot of joyous learning ahead of me today :D |
| 14:06.32 | Zap-W | how to configure pointopoint mode with klibc ipconfig |
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| 14:10.35 | AnthLee | is there a way to make apt-get/aptitude use the GTK interface for configuring packages? The behavior I want out of apt is what you get if you run this: dpkg-reconfigure -f gnome keyboard-configuration |
| 14:10.46 | dashs | Somehow exportfs was not installed with Debian 6.0 starter? http://pastebin.com/FxX2TTUK |
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| 14:11.54 | linux-fox | hi,all |
| 14:12.24 | linux-fox | i am using erc of emacs to login the irc at least |
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| 14:13.03 | adac | If I do have the phpmyadmin.conf file in /etc/apache2/conf.d as it comes with default debian/ubuntu installation.... is it posible to htaccess protect phhpmyadmin in the the default vhost with using the .conf file? |
| 14:13.35 | adac | like telling in the default vhost: protect /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf |
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| 14:18.18 | Woet | adac: just like protecting any other folder through .htaccess or apache config? |
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| 14:22.45 | egoproctor | if I installed the harden-doc package where do I find the files? |
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| 14:23.07 | adac | Woet, actually it would be basic ldap authentication |
| 14:23.26 | Woet | adac: yes, so why don't you put that in the phpmyadmin config? |
| 14:23.31 | Kromgol | I messed up my GRUB2, how do i rewrite the "grub" folder in /boot? |
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| 14:23.37 | Woet | Kromgol: update-grub? |
| 14:23.40 | Kromgol | Ah |
| 14:23.41 | Kromgol | Thanks. |
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| 14:23.52 | adac | Woet, so there is a way to write this directly whitin the conf file, yes... but I just thought there ight be another solution |
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| 14:24.08 | Woet | adac: what is wrong with putting configuration in the configuration file? |
| 14:24.17 | Woet | you can also put a .htaccess in the /usr/share/phpmyadmin folder if you prefer that |
| 14:24.33 | adac | Woet, I just thought in case of an ugrade of the debian config via apt maybe |
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| 14:24.44 | adac | would be nicer not to to modify that file |
| 14:24.51 | Woet | debian upgrade by default do not touch any configuration files |
| 14:24.58 | Woet | unless you explicitely tell it to |
| 14:25.07 | linkandzelda | I'm selling a vBulletin 4.x Publishing Suite license, with access to members area and vbulletin.org. Retail price is $285, i'm selling for $180-200. PM me if you are interested. Thanks |
| 14:25.16 | Woet | .. and how is that relevant to php? |
| 14:25.38 | Woet | that something is written (partly) in PHP doesn't mean this is a marketplace |
| 14:25.53 | adac | Woet, yes I'm aware of tht but I i would keep ldap auth out of the file I could upgrade the config file without any problems |
| 14:25.54 | linkandzelda | partly? |
| 14:25.58 | linkandzelda | i would say mostly :P |
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| 14:26.12 | Woet | linkandzelda: actually, even worse - how is that relevant to debian? |
| 14:26.20 | linkandzelda | its not haha |
| 14:26.24 | Woet | adac: then put it in .htaccess |
| 14:26.37 | linkandzelda | im, just trying to sell it and am out of places to go so im trying irc channels |
| 14:26.53 | Woet | linkandzelda: don't care, stop spamming. |
| 14:26.58 | adac | Woet, kk |
| 14:26.59 | linkandzelda | if you can give me places to go, i would be happy |
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| 14:27.02 | adac | Woet, thank you |
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| 14:29.03 | Kromgol | I seem to have run into some kind of problem, i recently switched my /boot partition from one HDD to another, then removed that HDD, then did grub-install /dev/sdc, and it did what it was supposed to. But now when i boot, i only enter the GRUB2 console for some reason? |
| 14:29.07 | Kromgol | I do not get a menu |
| 14:29.18 | wols_ | !ops linkandzelda please remove the spammer |
| 14:29.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: wols_ complains about: linkandzelda please remove the spammer |
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| 14:41.47 | lancelot_of | hi there |
| 14:42.25 | lancelot_of | how to disable services at boot time?i tried with update-rc.d -f /etc/init.d/TOREMOVE remove but nothing changed |
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| 14:45.22 | wols_ | you don't remove anything from init.d. only dpkg would do this when you uninstall something |
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| 14:45.35 | wols_ | you remove it from getting started in your runlevel with update-rc.d |
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| 14:46.08 | ksx4system | what causes this error? http://wklej.org/hash/5c54455b7d4/txt/ (that's from syslog if it helps: http://wklej.org/hash/f878b67b9cf/txt/) |
| 14:47.40 | wols_ | ksx4system: ug 30 18:32:51 maryland mysqld: InnoDB: mmap(272236544 bytes) failed; errno 12 that is the error which causes it |
| 14:47.43 | wols_ | ,versions mariadb |
| 14:47.44 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'mariadb' was found in i386. |
| 14:47.54 | wols_ | ksx4system: where do you get this mariadb .deb file? |
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| 14:48.57 | daemonkeeper | From the MariaDB homepage, I suppose |
| 14:49.02 | daemonkeeper | They provide Debian debs |
| 14:49.03 | ksx4system | wold_: "askmonty" repo, w8 i'll provide link |
| 14:49.10 | wols_ | then I suggest you ask them for support |
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| 14:49.17 | daemonkeeper | Even worse :> |
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| 14:49.48 | ksx4system | wols_: http://downloads.askmonty.org/mariadb/repositories/ |
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| 14:50.08 | ksx4system | btw problem solved, it was related to low memory on my server |
| 14:50.47 | wols_ | yes, as the line I pasted showed |
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| 14:52.28 | SammyTheSnake | I'm trying to build wine (from winehq.org git) on debian (testing) and I vaguely remember a notice on apt-get update last week talking about multiarch support in the debian build tools meaning I'd need to change library paths, but I can't find the message, has anyone else succeeded in building wine (or anything else) on debian testing in the last few days? |
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| 14:55.38 | DrkCodeman | am i able to do a side by side installation of debian on top of my windows 7 installation? |
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| 14:56.57 | zykotick9 | DrkCodeman, "on top of my windows" what do you mean? |
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| 14:57.38 | sisif | Hello guys. Currently running on wheezy and I`m having some issues with libnotify4 (0.7.3-2) and gnome-settings-daemon (2.30.2-4). Thought of updating g-setting-daemon, but the latest .deb. I see on packages.debian.org is the same version. Any suggestion on what should I do next? |
| 14:58.06 | abrotman | sisif: if you do 'aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade' is everything up to date? |
| 14:58.57 | lancelot_of | wols_, so should i remove the packages i don't want to start, right? |
| 14:59.12 | DammitJim | I know this is off topic, but what channel should I go to about doing reports from SQL using linux scripts? |
| 14:59.15 | sisif | abrotman, yes, it is |
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| 14:59.54 | abrotman | sisif: and you checked the BTS? |
| 15:00.05 | sisif | abrotman, BTS ? |
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| 15:00.07 | abrotman | DammitJim: what kind of reportS? what kind of scripts? |
| 15:00.10 | abrotman | !btssmite sisif |
| 15:00.11 | dpkg | beats sisif around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if sisif is running testing or unstable |
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| 15:00.28 | sisif | Aha |
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| 15:01.07 | DrkCodeman | if ubuntu can't support 2+ TB drives was wondering if debian could |
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| 15:01.25 | XLV | DrkCodeman, both can |
| 15:01.31 | DammitJim | abrotman, the report is a matrix of location vs frequency in Hz |
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| 15:01.42 | abrotman | DammitJim: wasn't really what i meant .. |
| 15:01.45 | DammitJim | but the SQL output gives me rows of location, frequency, owner |
| 15:01.48 | iderik | Where is the keyboard maps located? I cant find them either on google's directions or locate command |
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| 15:01.49 | DammitJim | LOL |
| 15:01.50 | zykotick9 | DrkCodeman, again you need to look into GPT i believe |
| 15:02.00 | abrotman | DammitJim: so you want like a PHP or python script? maybe perl? |
| 15:02.07 | DrkCodeman | GPT? |
| 15:02.09 | DammitJim | when I said scripts... I'm looking to figure out what tool to use to automate that in linux |
| 15:02.14 | DammitJim | yes |
| 15:02.21 | XLV | DrkCodeman, gpt |
| 15:02.24 | Zap-W | GPT |
| 15:02.32 | XLV | ^ |
| 15:02.44 | somiaj | DrkCodeman: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/whatsgpt.html |
| 15:02.51 | Zap-W | how to tell if bios supports GPT |
| 15:03.29 | XLV | Zap-W, if its uefi, it most likely supports it |
| 15:03.54 | XLV | all new s1155/56 intel mb eg are uefi now and support booting from gpt |
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| 15:04.30 | XLV | certain older intel s1156 mbs with uefi, though they claimed support, actually had problems |
| 15:04.39 | Bogus8 | Can anyone help me figuire out why is my raid 5 down with (s) spares indicated at the remaining 3 drives? |
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| 15:04.55 | DrkCodeman | gpt is going to damage mbr lol then im not going to toy with it |
| 15:04.55 | iderik | Anyone know where the keyboardmaps are located in debian? |
| 15:05.07 | DammitJim | where should I go ask about this? or is it easier to work off of a csv file and awk? |
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| 15:05.29 | ferz | Hi |
| 15:05.35 | XLV | DrkCodeman, if you already got windows installed on a gpt partition, you arent using MBR anyhow |
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| 15:05.57 | zykotick9 | DrkCodeman, {from my understanding} GPT replaces the MBR altogether |
| 15:06.34 | vixus | Has anyone here managed to get a working Intel/nVidia (sandy bridge) hybrid graphics system working? Maybe with bumblebee or something? |
| 15:07.15 | ferz | http://paste.scsys.co.uk/138497 i'm tryng to access to unstable sources for postgresql-9.1 |
| 15:07.27 | ferz | how can I fix that error? |
| 15:07.54 | DrkCodeman | exactly i dont want to toy around with MBR lol |
| 15:08.15 | XLV | vixus, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQxNg |
| 15:08.20 | DrkCodeman | there shouldnt be a issue like this installing linux with windows 7 |
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| 15:09.07 | XLV | DrkCodeman, theres no issue actually.. the gpt partition is already there... do an fdisk -l on some shell to see which partitions come up |
| 15:09.26 | XLV | DrkCodeman, also, to get rw ntfs partitions, install ntfs-3g |
| 15:09.49 | DrkCodeman | i know about rw for ntfs |
| 15:10.48 | XLV | then whats the problem? |
| 15:11.02 | XLV | linux has no problem with gpt partitions for a long time |
| 15:11.11 | XLV | grub2 is compatible |
| 15:11.24 | XLV | its a pebkac, keep trying |
| 15:11.27 | iderik | Please, where is the keyboard maps located? None of google's direction is correct. /usr/share/keymaps/ doesnt exists. The command "setxkbmap se" does not change kbmap for terminals! |
| 15:11.50 | somiaj | iderik: look up loadkeys |
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| 15:12.05 | vixus | XLV: Yes, I did try and get the debian version running (guide at http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/13660/linux-hybrid-graphics/) but the optirun command locks up the system. Also there's no hardware acceleration on the Intel side of things. |
| 15:12.11 | iderik | somiaj: I have. So where do I get the keymap from? |
| 15:12.31 | iderik | somiaj: all guides telling me to get the maps from /usr/share/keymaps/ which doesnt exist |
| 15:12.33 | Coweater | !keymap |
| 15:12.34 | dpkg | Squeeze users: run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your console and X keymap. Lenny users: run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" to change the console keymap (use loadkeys for temporary adjustments) -- to change the X keymap, read "man xmodmap" and ask me about <xorg config lenny>; gnome-control-center and kcontrol can also be used. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
| 15:12.35 | somiaj | iderik: since that program loads differnt keyboard maps it might tell you. I don't work with different keyboard maps |
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| 15:15.15 | lancelot_of | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:16.19 | DrkCodeman | zykotick9: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc725671.aspx think that should do it? |
| 15:16.32 | iderik | Coweater: thanks! I should have though of that bot :) That command was not found anywhere on the 20x sites i searched for on google |
| 15:16.47 | somiaj | lancelot_of: what do you mean 'dont want to start' -- you can just use update-rc.d and remove them from starting at bootup, but still have the software there (I do that with apache and mysql on my desktop, but can fire them up when I want to do some testing) |
| 15:16.57 | zykotick9 | DrkCodeman, technet article really? I have no idea, I haven't used MS in close to 10 years. Good luck. |
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| 15:17.39 | DrkCodeman | not that i can boot into linux atm im looking to setup gpt |
| 15:17.49 | DrkCodeman | trying to convert mbr to gpt |
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| 15:18.18 | XLV | DrkCodeman, again.. if you already got windows installed to a >2TB parititon, MBR isnt used, GPT is |
| 15:18.21 | lancelot_of | somiaj, i did this way but nothing changed. I run sudo update-rc.d -f /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon remove, for example, but at successive boot time avahi-daemon is still started |
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| 15:18.39 | lancelot_of | so for other software such as cron |
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| 15:19.05 | DrkCodeman | ohh |
| 15:19.13 | somiaj | lancelot_of: did you do an upgrade which installed the package again (it will resume the default startup options) unles you use 'disable' |
| 15:19.22 | DrkCodeman | so im already on gpt didn't know |
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| 15:19.54 | XLV | vixus, i dont have a nvidia optimus system, so i havent tested any of those.. i suppose its some weird acpi switch-off setting on your specific laptop.. i would use the instructions on these pages to send a dst and acpi dump to developers |
| 15:21.36 | lancelot_of | somiaj, yes i did and i didn't know anything about "disable" option...what does it do?how to use it? |
| 15:21.42 | somiaj | lancelot_of: but removing the package is also an option (though maybe you have something that depends on it that is starting it up) |
| 15:21.47 | XLV | vixus, its a work in progress in very early stages, on a quite hard matter that many issues are involved... X, nvidia drivers, intel drivers, weird acpi commands used on each specific laptop |
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| 15:22.08 | somiaj | lancelot_of: update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon disable (its like remove but it disables it so future calls to update-rc.d wont put the link back) |
| 15:22.45 | somiaj | lancelot_of: though when I looked this option up it said 'may not be supported and in future releases', it seemed to do teh trick (since I run sid my packages upgraded a lot and it was annoying to keep removing the startup links) |
| 15:23.02 | somiaj | lancelot_of: enable is how you undo the disable |
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| 15:23.29 | iderik | Coweater: Is there someway to check my current keymap? Since it doesnt work :/ the keymap works great in all applications but the terminals |
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| 15:24.30 | lancelot_of | somiaj, thank you very much, you were really enlightening |
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| 15:27.25 | DrkCodeman | does the installer even look for gpt partitions? or only mbr partitions? |
| 15:27.27 | Coweater | iderik: i don't know, did you logout and in on the terminals to check for change? |
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| 15:29.01 | iderik | Coweater: i restarted the computer |
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| 15:30.09 | iderik | Coweater: is there any configfile i can check and maybe manuelly edit? |
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| 15:35.36 | Coweater | iderik: /etc/default/keyboard, at least on wheezy, not sure it applies to squeeze |
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| 15:36.03 | wfq | hi guys |
| 15:36.15 | wfq | how cold I get my apt to remove the settign files as well |
| 15:36.17 | wfq | ? |
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| 15:37.30 | cantido | wfq: purge |
| 15:37.30 | Coweater | wfq: use purge instead of remove |
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| 15:38.06 | zykotick9 | wfq, FYI even purge won't remove any settings from you home directory |
| 15:38.23 | wfq | thought purge was only available for dpkg |
| 15:38.26 | wfq | thanks guys |
| 15:38.47 | cantido | wfq: apt-get/aptitude are frontends to dpkg.. |
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| 15:39.06 | wfq | actually it didn't bloody hell |
| 15:39.15 | wfq | can't get rid of /smb.conf |
| 15:39.18 | cantido | zykotick9: I wouldnt want a package manager to go around deleting user's files.. |
| 15:39.18 | Coweater | wfq: if you need to remove them after a package has been removed you can do "aptitude purge '~c' |
| 15:39.36 | iderik | Coweater: looks good in that file. i wonder why it doesnt work in my terminals |
| 15:39.43 | Coweater | (that will remove ALL config files without an installed package though) |
| 15:39.49 | zykotick9 | cantido, neither would I |
| 15:40.39 | zykotick9 | cantido, i was just pointing that out, people make settings changes (saved in there home dir) and wonder why uninstalling/reinstall the package doesn't fix there mix-configuration issue(s) |
| 15:41.08 | Coweater | iderik: maybe something loaded in the user's config file? try a new user or check your .bash_profile .bashrc etc. |
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| 15:41.47 | cantido | zykotick9: fair enough :) |
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| 15:43.18 | mns | I am using wheezy. I had a ThinkPad T500. The LCD and/or video controller died (blank screen whether VGA output or the LCD). So the IT folks gave me a new T500, and swapped out the hard drives. Now wireless does not turn on. Its Intel 5100 AGN for the wifi. I was using wifi on the old T500 (same wifi card) until yesterday. The interface numbering is all wrong also. wlan1 instead of wlan0. eth2 instead of eth0. |
| 15:43.27 | iderik | Coweater: im downloading the "console-data" package now. ill try out "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data" command |
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| 15:44.29 | mns | anyone have any suggestions ? |
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| 15:44.55 | abrotman | mns: does not turn on at all? |
| 15:45.00 | iderik | Coweater: i was using XTerm without unicode support... |
| 15:45.06 | abrotman | !tell mns about z70 |
| 15:45.08 | abrotman | !tell mns about 70 |
| 15:45.21 | iderik | Coweater: this problem happened when i change to Awesome WM, and its using XTerm as default terminal, without unicode |
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| 15:46.27 | wfq | i just messed up the installation |
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| 15:46.36 | mns | abrotman: thanks. so it seems like a udev caching issue then ? |
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| 15:46.52 | abrotman | might be |
| 15:47.18 | iderik | Coweater: i always try to stay away from downloading unnecessary packages. so I installed this "console-data" now. Is it possible to undo that? I would also like to remove the packages that it was demanding |
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| 15:49.16 | iderik | Coweater: nevermind :) thanks for the help! |
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| 15:50.38 | koshieFinalReliz | Hi. I've paid for a VPN connection from IPredator, but when I'm configuring Network-Manager like this link http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/Ipredator it doesn't work. The connection failed. I'm in ethernet. |
| 15:51.16 | koshieFinalReliz | the login and the password are good, and I've installed network-manager-pptp and network-manager-pptp-gnome. |
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| 15:53.59 | BlueMatt | whens the last time anyone has seen fEnIo? |
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| 15:54.25 | cantido | koshieFinalReliz: you could ask their support no? |
| 15:55.06 | koshieFinalReliz | cantido, not stupid. I'm on Debian so naturally I'm coming here :D. |
| 15:55.09 | koshieFinalReliz | I will try, thanks. |
| 15:55.49 | cantido | koshieFinalReliz: you at least need to get some logging or something... check dmesg, syslog etc |
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| 16:05.19 | mns | abrotman: thanks for the udev tip. its working now. I removed the existing 70-persistent-net.rules file, and rebooted. I did a udevadm trigger before that which got the wireless working (at least I think that is what caused it). wifi comes up on reboot now, and interfaces are renamed as they should be. the world is back to normal as it should be. |
| 16:05.51 | abrotman | good deal |
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| 16:07.43 | tdfischer | I have a packaging question |
| 16:08.10 | tdfischer | I've been a fedora packager for a while, where fedora gives packagers a repository to hold .spec files and patches |
| 16:08.29 | tdfischer | since debian packages need a debian/ directory in the sources, whats the best place to store that directory? |
| 16:08.41 | tdfischer | like, store it between releases |
| 16:09.17 | tdfischer | I'm totally new to debian packaging if it isn't obvious |
| 16:09.17 | abrotman | between? you can put it in the source tree, right? |
| 16:09.21 | tdfischer | yeah |
| 16:09.27 | tdfischer | I'm upstream |
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| 16:09.50 | tdfischer | like, is it a bad idea to commit the debian/ directory to the upstream repository |
| 16:09.54 | thewanderer1 | several free software projects provide debian directory in the source tarballs |
| 16:10.01 | tdfischer | ah, cool |
| 16:10.20 | tdfischer | thanks |
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| 16:11.00 | somiaj | I actually like it when the upstream has a debian/ directory so I can make my own package easily (instead of creating it with dh_make) if I want to compile a newer version from upstream than is in sid. So it is useful to others as well. |
| 16:11.08 | tdfischer | cool |
| 16:11.18 | tdfischer | I wish projects did that for rpm .spec files sometimes |
| 16:11.20 | thewanderer1 | yeah well, not sure how it goes along with Ubuntu |
| 16:11.30 | tdfischer | also, is there some easier method of splitting a package instead of creating some more files inside the folder |
| 16:11.30 | somiaj | with wine I have to run dh_make each time I want to compile their new unstable branch. |
| 16:11.43 | abrotman | tdfischer: i was recently looking at sometihng .. uh lenmus .. and it had a debian/ dir .. untarred the source, and built the package in a few minutes |
| 16:11.51 | tdfischer | neat |
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| 16:12.07 | abrotman | (no idea why lenmus isn't in Debian properly, but whatever) |
| 16:12.22 | tdfischer | I'll do that then, it sounds painless enough |
| 16:12.52 | tdfischer | another question, is there something similar to fedora's koji, but for debian? |
| 16:12.54 | abrotman | tdfischer: you also may want to read up on lintian and the new maintainer guide .. also see mentors.debian.net |
| 16:12.59 | abrotman | tdfischer: wtf is koji ? |
| 16:13.09 | tdfischer | its a packaging server system thingie |
| 16:13.14 | tdfischer | like opensuse's OBS |
| 16:13.24 | tdfischer | but tailored to fedora packaging |
| 16:13.35 | tdfischer | actually anything RPM |
| 16:13.37 | abrotman | oh .. if the package is in Debian, yes .. they have the buildd .. you can setup your own as well |
| 16:13.38 | abrotman | !buildd |
| 16:13.38 | dpkg | buildd is probably Debian's automated build system that automatically compiles everything it finds. http://buildd.debian.org/ http://wiki.debian.org/buildd |
| 16:13.46 | tdfischer | heh, nice |
| 16:13.47 | tdfischer | thanks |
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| 16:14.49 | tdfischer | unfortunately I don't really have the time to be a full-time debian packager, I just want to make it easier for someone to bundle up my goodies |
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| 16:18.00 | abrotman | tdfischer: well, if you are willing to take patches upstream, it would probably make it easier .. |
| 16:18.38 | abrotman | tdfischer: at least participating with Debian is a good thing :) |
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| 16:19.46 | tdfischer | yup |
| 16:19.57 | tdfischer | I'd be more than happy to take patches |
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| 16:20.31 | tdfischer | my project if anyone is interested in a super super super simple CD ripping tool: http://fedorahosted.org/rippit |
| 16:20.48 | tdfischer | I've got a kubuntu VM I'm playing around with to package it up |
| 16:21.10 | twobitsprite | inb4 !ubuntu :P |
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| 16:21.27 | tdfischer | hehe |
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| 16:21.47 | tdfischer | I only have it for work purposes, I swear >_> |
| 16:21.48 | Guest893 | hola como estan tengo una consulta me quieren vender una macbook pero como puedo ver el hadware ya que no dice nada en el exteriror |
| 16:21.55 | twobitsprite | !es |
| 16:21.55 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 16:22.11 | debianito | las macbook se le puede instalar debian? |
| 16:22.22 | somiaj | in terms of building a pacakge, and the debian/ dir there really isn't that much difference, its the core pacakages/software and policys that are different. |
| 16:22.37 | tdfischer | yeah, I gathered that much from the copious pages of documentation there is around |
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| 16:25.09 | somiaj | I'd like to think for a perphial pice of software a good debian/ dir should alow any .deb based distro to compile their own pacakges on the distro |
| 16:25.23 | somiaj | (provided the dependencies are available) |
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| 16:29.26 | BlueMatt | whens the last time anyone has seen fEnIo? |
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| 16:29.50 | somiaj | !seen fEnIo |
| 16:29.51 | dpkg | fenio <fenio@serwer.fenski.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 19d 23h 20m 5s ago, saying: 'any users from Ukraine? Lviv?'. |
| 16:29.51 | Jikan | Aucune trace de fEnIo dans la base de données LastSeen. |
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| 16:31.45 | abrotman | not so usfeul in here .. probably not the same fenio |
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| 16:37.53 | jhutchins_lt | #debian has one developer who's only contribution on IRC is to tell people they're wrong. Never says what's right, just points out errors. |
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| 16:38.47 | cantido | jhutchins_lt: just one? |
| 16:39.16 | jhutchins_lt | Heh. Would "wrong window" be obvious here? |
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| 16:39.55 | jhutchins_lt | cantido: I've really only encountered one guy. Was discussing the general hostility in the Mandriva channels. |
| 16:40.12 | jhutchins_lt | cantido: #debian is a LOT more friendly and helpful. |
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| 16:40.55 | cantido | You do get people that dislike being told "dont do that!! ffs" and take it as hostility too though.. |
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| 16:41.45 | forero | Hi, is there a way to implement computer security in an environment without physical security? |
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| 16:41.57 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, we have to hammer on the ones who want to run sid just because it's "newer". |
| 16:42.03 | thewanderer1 | forero: no. and I believe this is outside the scope of this channel. |
| 16:42.22 | cantido | that sounds like an exam question.. |
| 16:42.48 | forero | thewanderer1: debian is a broad channel... |
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| 16:43.23 | cantido | jhutchins_lt: "I just want to install this sid package into stable" .. those people dont listen |
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| 16:43.31 | thewanderer1 | forero: in case you do want to try, have a look at TPM, trusted GRUB and something called "trousers"... but Invisible Things Lab have a cool blog about it, have a read |
| 16:43.47 | forero | ok thanks |
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| 16:44.16 | forero | tpm is hardware based, isn't it? |
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| 16:45.21 | cantido | Does linux do full memory encryption? |
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| 16:45.52 | thewanderer1 | forero: TPM as in the module, yes, but trusted computing relies on cooperation between the TPM-aware OS and the underlying cryptographic device |
| 16:46.14 | karlpinc | cantido: What does that even mean? If it's encrypted it can't be used without decryption, more or less by definition. |
| 16:46.15 | thewanderer1 | cantido: no, your memory is in the RAM cells in "plain text", anyone can read it if they are physically present |
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| 16:46.35 | thewanderer1 | you can encrypt swap when hibernating, though |
| 16:46.52 | cantido | karlpinc: you decrypt to cpu registers.. |
| 16:47.42 | karlpinc | cantido: Well, if the hardware does that transparently, then sure! |
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| 16:48.47 | cantido | karlpinc: I guess you would need some hardware support if you expect a machine thats sitting in the open to be "secure" |
| 16:49.14 | cantido | intrusion detection etc |
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| 16:56.43 | thewanderer1 | cantido: preferably coupled with a 500g C4 payload |
| 16:57.05 | cantido | thewanderer1: and spikes |
| 16:57.45 | thewanderer1 | just shrapnels |
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| 17:00.15 | Pinchiukas | Simple question: what's wrong here: http://pastebin.com/gtXi3fwV ? |
| 17:00.20 | thewanderer1 | oh. also, TPM can be hacked by dipping it in acid and accessing its internal circuits... just so you know :P |
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| 17:00.58 | cantido | thewanderer1: I never really got what TPM does.. its like signed applications isnt it? |
| 17:01.10 | cantido | i.e. you cant load any code that isnt trusted by the TPM |
| 17:01.41 | thewanderer1 | cantido: it's much like a smart card really, the OS can make upcalls to it and request various signatures etc. |
| 17:02.13 | cantido | so if you can get into the kernel you turn off those calls? |
| 17:02.29 | cantido | or does the TPM have the ability to reset the CPU if it doesnt call home? |
| 17:03.17 | thewanderer1 | cantido: that is implementation-dependent AFAIK, so far I haven't seen watchdogs in TPM. but presumably getting into the kernel == TPM is void |
| 17:03.34 | thewanderer1 | so no security for you today, sorry, check back tomorrow :) |
| 17:04.24 | thewanderer1 | Pinchiukas: you're not using an initrd, are you? also, this is not a Debian kernel, right? |
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| 17:05.20 | cantido | thewanderer1: I wonder why it hasnt caught on ;) |
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| 17:09.14 | TBotNik | wols_: Howdy! |
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| 17:11.14 | Pinchiukas | thewanderer1: seems EC2 is for some reason using another kernel. |
| 17:11.26 | Pinchiukas | I should be using the debian one. |
| 17:11.34 | Pinchiukas | I'm trying to do a debootstrap. |
| 17:12.01 | cantido | Pinchiukas: because its running in their VM environment... |
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| 17:12.56 | thewanderer1 | Pinchiukas: I can't see a connection between debootstrap and their kernel, are you making a VM image from scratch? |
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| 17:13.57 | Pinchiukas | thewanderer1: yeah. |
| 17:14.03 | Pinchiukas | cantido: what does that even mean? |
| 17:14.19 | cantido | Pinchiukas: a real kernel won't run on their hypervisor |
| 17:14.21 | Pinchiukas | EC2 uses Xen afaik so I must be running my own kernel. |
| 17:14.38 | Pinchiukas | And it's paravirtualized so they must be running a kernel. |
| 17:14.39 | thewanderer1 | Xen is paravirt, this is nothing like real hardware |
| 17:14.50 | cantido | Pinchiukas: do you have access to the boot manager they use? |
| 17:14.57 | cantido | Pinchiukas: I.e. can you supply your own kernel? |
| 17:15.00 | Pinchiukas | What do you mean by "access"? |
| 17:15.09 | cantido | see above |
| 17:15.19 | Pinchiukas | I thought I was doing it now... |
| 17:15.45 | cantido | if this is your own kernel you are having initramfs issues.. because its not dropping into the rescue shell |
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| 17:17.18 | Pinchiukas | I don't have physical access to the machine when it boots. |
| 17:17.19 | cantido | thewanderer1: I thought debian kernels would run on xen.. even without HVM. I dont think EC2 allow you to boot your own kernels though |
| 17:17.22 | Pinchiukas | I can just see the log. |
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| 17:17.28 | matrixiumn | hello |
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| 17:17.52 | cantido | Pinchiukas: in the control panel or whatever is there a way of selecting the kernel you want to boot? |
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| 17:18.29 | Pinchiukas | Yeah, there is. |
| 17:18.39 | Pinchiukas | And there is a very long list of meaningless entries. :/ |
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| 17:19.06 | cantido | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.29 | Pinchiukas | Yeah, I see now... :) |
| 17:19.29 | wols_ | damn that's old |
| 17:19.38 | cantido | You probably dont have an initramfs.. which means all the support for your / needs to be in the kernel |
| 17:19.43 | Pinchiukas | I just can't understand why it's hijacking my kernel. |
| 17:19.53 | cantido | wols_: redhat backport stuff but keep the numbers IIRC |
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| 17:20.06 | cantido | wols_: it says redhat later on in his dmesg.. |
| 17:20.14 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: Because you're on a VM. |
| 17:20.18 | cantido | (gcc version 4.0.1 20050727 (Red Hat 4.0.1-5)) |
| 17:20.28 | cantido | old skool GCC |
| 17:20.54 | cantido | Pinchiukas: I dont think udev etc in stable will run on that kernel any how |
| 17:22.20 | Pinchiukas | Well I've used Xen somewhat and kernel-wise it seemed to me like it was pretty much the same dael as on dedicated hardware except that I have to use a Xen kernel. |
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| 17:22.46 | cantido | Pinchiukas: I think the debian kernel can run in a domU .. |
| 17:23.41 | cantido | Pinchiukas: the problem here is that A: your kernel isnt from your debian install B: it doesnt have a initramfs or one that works so you're dropping into the old style boot (root= stuff), C: That kernel cant mount your root |
| 17:23.41 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: Depnds on how the host is set up. |
| 17:23.54 | ferz | where can I find the new release of postgresql-client-common (115) ? http://paste.scsys.co.uk/138503 |
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| 17:25.39 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions postgresql-client |
| 17:25.40 | judd | Package postgresql-client on i386 -- lenny: 8.3.13-0lenny1; lenny-proposed-updates: 8.3.14-0lenny1; lenny-security: 8.3.14-0lenny1; squeeze-security: 8.4.7-0squeeze2; squeeze: 8.4.8-0squeeze1; lenny-backports: 8.4.8-0squeeze2~bpo50+1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 8.4.8-0squeeze2; squeeze-updates: 8.4.8-0squeeze2; lenny-backports-sloppy: 9.0.4-1~bpo50+1; squeeze-backports: |
| 17:25.42 | judd | 9.0.4-1~bpo60+1; sid: 9.0.4-1; wheezy: 9.0.4-1; sid: 9.1+121 |
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| 17:26.56 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: How did you try to install that? |
| 17:27.34 | cantido | wonders if he mkfs.ext4'd for / .. |
| 17:28.02 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: Sorry |
| 17:28.10 | jhutchins_lt | ferz: How did you try to install that? |
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| 17:29.30 | Pinchiukas | jhutchins_lt: how can the host CAN be set up? |
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| 17:30.10 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: My guess is a modified bootloader that mounts their own /boot. |
| 17:30.12 | Pinchiukas | So the Debian kernel should be able to detect when it's running in a Xen VM and act accordingly? |
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| 17:30.33 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: Make sure that somebody doesn't load an unauthorized kernel. |
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| 17:32.21 | Pinchiukas | So now I guess I should look at what kernels EC2 offers and choose one... |
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| 17:32.54 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: Probably. |
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| 17:34.22 | Pinchiukas | Now I just have to find a human-readable list of which kernel is which... |
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| 17:36.11 | drdo | Are there installation cds with snapshots of sid? |
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| 17:36.28 | ferz | jhutchins_lt: ok, I've found. |
| 17:36.34 | Pinchiukas | Anyone know what kernel (AKI) I can use on EC2 with Debian Squeeze? |
| 17:36.40 | cantido | drdo: The debian-install page links the IIRC |
| 17:36.47 | abrotman | drdo: use stable, and upgrade from there |
| 17:36.51 | cantido | drdo: s/the/them/ |
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| 17:37.20 | cantido | abrotman: what if you need something that only works in a newer debian-installer? |
| 17:37.23 | drdo | cantido: what page would that be? |
| 17:37.26 | abrotman | cantido: /msg dpkg kmuto |
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| 17:38.25 | cantido | drdo: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- those images are snapshots of testing |
| 17:38.43 | abrotman | and hopefully not broken today \o/ |
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| 17:38.47 | abrotman | use stable, upgrade from there |
| 17:38.48 | drdo | well yes i found those, i was wondering about unstable ones |
| 17:38.51 | cantido | drdo: I thought there were sid images as well |
| 17:38.59 | abrotman | there are |
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| 17:39.56 | cantido | drdo: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/ |
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| 17:40.15 | drdo | Is it possible to run mostly stable and get a few packages from unstable? |
| 17:40.24 | cantido | drdo: no |
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| 17:40.28 | cantido | drdo: use backports |
| 17:40.35 | drdo | I need linux >3.0 |
| 17:40.40 | drdo | wireless drivers |
| 17:40.55 | ompaul | what is your wireless card? |
| 17:41.05 | drdo | realtek 8192se |
| 17:41.06 | cantido | drdo: newer kernels usually need newer support tools like udev etc |
| 17:41.25 | drdo | cantido: sure, but that should be specified in the deb? |
| 17:41.36 | abrotman | drdo: testing has a 3.0.x kernel |
| 17:41.42 | abrotman | !rtl8192se |
| 17:41.42 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8191SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8171, 10ec:8172) and RTL8192SE (PCI IDs 10ec:8173, 10ec:8174, some 10ec:8192) are PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192se) is in mainline since Linux 3.0. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 17:42.11 | daemonkeeper | The earliest supported kernel is 2.6.32 for udev. Generally it works fine to use Sid/Testing kernels in Stable by just installing them, this is, however, not true for 3.0 |
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| 17:42.43 | iderik | !keymap |
| 17:42.44 | dpkg | Squeeze users: run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your console and X keymap. Lenny users: run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" to change the console keymap (use loadkeys for temporary adjustments) -- to change the X keymap, read "man xmodmap" and ask me about <xorg config lenny>; gnome-control-center and kcontrol can also be used. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
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| 17:43.07 | drdo | well, guess i'll just go with sid |
| 17:43.22 | abrotman | what could go wrong ... |
| 17:43.42 | ompaul | drdo: and one word of warning READ the updates for removals and the like at a minimum |
| 17:43.53 | ompaul | abrotman: depends on the day of the week |
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| 17:44.58 | drdo | thanks guys |
| 17:44.59 | thewanderer1 | daemonkeeper: what does one need to change in Squeeze to run a 3.0 kernel? |
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| 17:45.27 | cajac | If I try running wireshark as a no-root user. No interfaces show up. |
| 17:45.40 | valdyn_ | cajac: how is that surprising? |
| 17:46.11 | cajac | @valdyn_ because I did run dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common and added myself to the wireshark group |
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| 17:46.40 | cajac | Are there any other settings I should change? |
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| 17:47.07 | valdyn_ | cajac: did you log out and back in after joining the wireshark group? |
| 17:47.48 | cajac | @ valdyn_ no I haven't but will do so now |
| 17:48.12 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: Squeeze's udev is too old (I think) |
| 17:48.14 | valdyn_ | cajac: stupid anachronism i know, but you need to log out and in to join a grop effectively |
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| 17:48.31 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 17:48.32 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); wheezy: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny3) |
| 17:48.37 | thewanderer1 | daemonkeeper: but does it check the kernel version? O.o |
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| 17:48.57 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: What's the 3.x kernel have that 2.6.39 doesn't? |
| 17:49.11 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: It does not depend on a kernel version (which no package does), but its API incompatible. |
| 17:49.12 | cajac | @ valdyn_ Thank you! (it worked) |
| 17:49.13 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins_lt: version number |
| 17:49.31 | thewanderer1 | strange, I thought there were no API changes |
| 17:49.38 | valdyn_ | cajac: welcome, but skip the @ sign please, just nickname works better |
| 17:49.39 | jhutchins_lt | I guess I'm just not insecure about the size of my version number. |
| 17:50.25 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins_lt: specifically, I'm running a patch set where new patches require 3.0.* |
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| 17:51.47 | iderik_ | Hello, I cant change channel in IRSSI because it does only prints these weird characters "±²³´µ¶·¸¹°«". Im using Unicode XTerm (I need it for my swedish keyboard). How do I remove this feature? Thanks :) |
| 17:52.42 | PerfDave | iderik_: How are you trying to change channel? |
| 17:53.10 | iderik_ | PerfDave: as default: ALT+# |
| 17:53.22 | PerfDave | iderik_: Seems like you're pressing AltGr rather than Alt... |
| 17:53.32 | iderik_ | ive tried to use "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" and turned that feature off, but it doesnt change anything for me |
| 17:53.57 | iderik_ | PerfDave: no, when i use altgr is types other weird characters |
| 17:54.16 | PerfDave | iderik_: Changing windows with "/win #" works, I assume? |
| 17:54.26 | PerfDave | iderik_: Do you get those weird characters in other apps or just irssi? |
| 17:55.36 | iderik_ | win # doesnt work, are you sure its a command? |
| 17:55.44 | iderik_ | its only in XTerm apps |
| 17:56.57 | iderik_ | its weird, because im turning it off with "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" but it doesnt change |
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| 17:58.02 | mooglenorph | Hi. Can anyone offer advice on backing up to amazon S3? I'm considering both duplicity and anacron/s3cmd, running debian stable. |
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| 17:59.54 | iderik_ | PerfDave: ok, /window # works |
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| 18:05.23 | ompaul | mooglenorph: start a s3 community ;-) |
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| 18:06.30 | ompaul | mooglenorph: if you have to back things up now and again or even everyday there are two ways in my book, one is amanda, which does virtual tape libaries, and the other is rsync. |
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| 18:07.35 | linduxed | ok so i've got a weird issue with permissions on my samba server. when i just do "touch some_file_that_doesnt_exist" it gets 660, the default ACL for the folder is 770 so it gets effective 660. that already is confusing to me. on top of that, when i edit an office document in the folder, it gets 460 |
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| 18:13.59 | dashs | Used to get away with running rsh when the target system had .rhosts defined for the requesting IP -- no longer -- always asks for password; I know that it's deprecated, but is there a way? |
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| 18:14.42 | jhutchins_lt | dashs: ssh |
| 18:15.31 | dashs | jhutchins_lt: I couldn't make that work, either. |
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| 18:16.47 | dashs | jhutchins_lt: Is there a good tutorial for tha? |
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| 18:17.21 | jhutchins_lt | I'm sure there's a howto at http://tldp.org - might be something on the wiki too... |
| 18:17.23 | jhutchins_lt | !ssh |
| 18:17.23 | dpkg | [ssh] the Secure SHell; "aptitude install ssh" (<openssh>). Clients for other platforms include <putty>, <cygwin>, <niftytelnet> and MacSSH. It's _unwise_ to enable both RSA and password authentication. Firewalls to mitigate against brute-force attacks on your SSH server include <fail2ban> and <denyhosts>. See also <scp>, <sftp>, <ssh without password>, <ssh permissions>, <sshx>, <ssh linedraw>, <debug sshd>, <dropbear>, <ssh-copy-id>. |
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| 18:20.27 | iderik_ | PerfDave: so you have no idea? :/ im still thankful for the help you gave me :) |
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| 18:23.19 | PerfDave | iderik_: I think the keyboard-configuration stuff is for text consoles, not X terminals (though I could be wrong) |
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| 18:28.12 | iderik | Could anyone please tell me from where XTerm is executed? I wish to add a command ("xtermset -fg white -bg black") when launching it |
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| 18:29.53 | abrotman | depends on your DE/WM |
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| 18:30.32 | iderik | abrotman: oh, im using Gnome DE with Awesome WM |
| 18:30.36 | Tekku | Boas tardes pessoal :) |
| 18:32.20 | iderik | abrotman: there is a variable in Awesome WM config: terminal="uxterm" is it possible to att my xtermset command to that line somehow? |
| 18:32.42 | iderik | or is it defined in the theme? |
| 18:32.52 | cantido | iderik: xterm probably has an rc file for that stuff.. |
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| 18:34.12 | Tynach | Hey, I think I accidentally deleted a bunch of various QT related library files, how do I basically verify with apt/dpkg if there are files missing, and reinstall those packages/files? |
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| 18:35.02 | cantido | Tynach: mmm debsums maybe? |
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| 18:35.45 | Tynach | Ah, that's the command for checking the checksums of the files, right? I've used that before, but I couldn't remember the name. Will that also let me automatically reinstall those packages? |
| 18:35.51 | somiaj | Tynach: you could just --reinstall your packages, won't take to much if they are mostly still sitting in /var/cache/apt/archive |
| 18:36.01 | Tynach | I don't know what packages they are. |
| 18:36.16 | somiaj | Tynach: dpkg -S (even if the file does't exist) should tell you what package it came from |
| 18:36.29 | Tynach | I... Don't know all the filenames either. |
| 18:36.33 | Tynach | I just know they all were related to QT. |
| 18:36.50 | Tynach | Kate gives me an error about one file... I reinstall the package that corresponds to that one file, but the problem persists. |
| 18:37.01 | Tynach | And it won't give an error about a different file either. |
| 18:37.33 | Tynach | Running debsums now. |
| 18:38.19 | somiaj | Tynach: just be overagressive and reinstall every pacakge |
| 18:38.22 | nfo-overload | trying to follow this guide, http://www.howtoforge.com/debian-squeeze-squid-kerberos-ldap-authentication-active-directory-integration-and-cyfin-reporter i'm at the kinit administrator step and get the following. kinit: Improper format of Kerberos configuration file while initializing Kerberos 5 library |
| 18:39.21 | Tynach | debsums has caught a few others, including aspell. |
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| 18:40.12 | somiaj | nfo-overload: sounds like a bad config file, maybe a kerberos chan could give better help on spotting the error in it. |
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| 18:43.17 | nfo-overload | somiaj - thanks |
| 18:43.22 | iderik | cantido: i coudltn find any rc file for xterm. maybe i could change the /usr/bin/xterm script? but im not sure how to |
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| 18:44.33 | somiaj | iderik: what sort of config are you trying to set for xterm. Usually I put the options in .Xresources file, the man page will tell you what resources xterm honors. |
| 18:44.56 | somiaj | iderik: $HOME/.Xresources |
| 18:45.16 | Tynach | debsums is taking a while... |
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| 18:46.57 | somiaj | esicaply if you have 4-5 gigs of software installed (or more if you use a full DE, which you might with all that QT stuff) |
| 18:47.46 | iderik | somiaj: thanks, ill look in to that :) |
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| 18:49.02 | bst | Tynach: try cruft, first read man pages and docs |
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| 18:49.35 | Tynach | Well, honestly, I'm running Ubuntu. But I came here because I figured the solution would be dealing with the package manager, and the Ubuntu channel is probably not going to be too helpful with that. |
| 18:49.35 | harlan | My /var/lib/dpkg/status file keeps getting corrupted - it says there is no Version: string for things like dpkg, and if I just delete that "stanza" and reinstall it or add a Version: string and reinstall it the same thing happens again. |
| 18:49.39 | ironm | good evening. please allow me one question: I try to create a debian package for xen-4.1.2 *but* I am getting errors like missing xen-libraries (s. http://paste.debian.net/127870/ ). Do you have any idea what I am missing? |
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| 18:49.48 | harlan | (sorry to step in there - I'll wait) |
| 18:50.00 | Tynach | So, I have what... 3 or 4 desktop environments installed, and all that. |
| 18:50.03 | Tynach | What's cruft? |
| 18:50.41 | valdyn_ | harlan: the cause for this is most probably crashes caused by defective hardware |
| 18:51.05 | harlan | valdyn_: thanks - and we're not seeing any crashes on the box. |
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| 18:51.28 | valdyn_ | harlan: but it can be many things, like a power outage or an actual software bug |
| 18:51.40 | valdyn_ | harlan: that still doesnt exclude defective hardware |
| 18:52.20 | boudiccas | Tynach; your best bet is to ask about it in #ubuntu as we dont support ubuntu here. we dont know about there way of doing thinsg which may well be different from our debian ways |
| 18:52.40 | harlan | No power outage. I also get a fair number of consistent entries where the last part of a "stanza" is truncated and the "Package: " line is appended to the previous stanza. |
| 18:52.51 | valdyn_ | harlan: test your disk(s) with badblocks and the ram with memtest86 and repeated kernel compiles |
| 18:52.52 | harlan | smartmon says the disk is OK. |
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| 18:53.16 | valdyn_ | harlan: smartmon sais that your disks firmware things its ok |
| 18:53.16 | harlan | If badblocks is there I will run it, and I'll see if I canget memtest on the box. |
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| 18:53.35 | valdyn_ | s/things/thinks/ |
| 18:53.38 | harlan | thanks - I'll try those and return here when they are done. |
| 18:53.43 | Tynach | boudiccas, I doubt that Ubuntu does package management THAT differently. And if they do, I'm sure for many reasons they at least have the same sorts of tools in the repositories. |
| 18:53.54 | valdyn_ | harlan: sometimes hardware defects are hard to reproduce |
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| 18:54.46 | Tynach | I just know that Ubuntu's channel will have quite a few people who are new to Linux - of which I am not. I'm fairly comfortable with Debian (and Debian was my first distro), I mostly came here because I couldn't remember what debsums was called. |
| 18:54.48 | Tynach | And, it finished. |
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| 18:55.29 | abrotman | Tynach: Ubuntu support is still offtopic here, doesn't matter how different you think it is |
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| 18:55.59 | valdyn_ | harlan: obviously dpkg could be broken too, but i have not noticed this in the last 15 years |
| 18:56.23 | robokop | can someone tell me why mediawiki needs php5 and not php5 | php5-cgi? |
| 18:57.01 | abrotman | the maintainer f'ed up? |
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| 18:57.11 | ompaul | fessed |
| 18:57.26 | abrotman | robokop: though ... you can have them both installed, right ? |
| 18:57.29 | valdyn_ | robokop: because php5 already has that and more | |
| 18:58.06 | valdyn_ | no it doesnt look like the maintainer fucked up |
| 18:58.34 | valdyn_ | robokop: apt-cache show php5 and read the description and its depends |
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| 18:58.58 | robokop | well i would like to switch to apache2-mpm-worker instead of apache2-mpm-prefork because of memory limits on my vps |
| 18:59.03 | cantido | isnt php5 provided by php-cgi etc? |
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| 18:59.14 | cantido | robokop: why not use lighttpd? |
| 18:59.31 | valdyn_ | cantido: that could be a second way that would come to the same conclusion |
| 19:00.18 | valdyn_ | robokop: so what exactly is keeping you from switching? |
| 19:00.21 | cantido | finds that php stuff always seems to want to install apache2 + modphp |
| 19:01.24 | cheebu | i have an issue with mysql... im trying to run a program that should use libmysqlclient.so.15 but i have libmysqlclient.so.16 what should i do? |
| 19:01.38 | valdyn_ | cheebu: recompile that program |
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| 19:03.13 | cheebu | ive heard of people making some kind of symbolic link or something |
| 19:03.47 | valdyn_ | cheebu: thats kind of unsafe but might be fine for your case, go ahead and try and see.. |
| 19:03.48 | TrueDD | Hi everybody ! |
| 19:03.53 | cantido | cheebu: the soname changes when things that break stuff changes |
| 19:04.03 | cantido | cheebu: so maybe it will work, maybe it wont |
| 19:04.35 | valdyn_ | uh |
| 19:04.56 | oobe | anyone know what happened to http://qt-kde.debian.net |
| 19:05.16 | cheebu | how do i do that tho i type # ln -s libmysqlclient.so.15 libmysqlclient.so.16 like that? |
| 19:05.30 | cheebu | in the directory of the program or how? im sorry im realy bad |
| 19:05.47 | valdyn_ | cheebu: cd /usr/local/lib |
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| 19:05.55 | cheebu | make the link there |
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| 19:06.18 | valdyn_ | cheebu: ln -s libmysqlclient.so.15 /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16 ( or i can never remember the proper order for symlinking ) |
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| 19:06.25 | valdyn_ | cheebu: yes |
| 19:07.03 | valdyn_ | cheebu: dont change anything in places that are used by debian packages |
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| 19:07.24 | valdyn_ | cheebu: except where change is planned for, like in /etc, naturally |
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| 19:07.38 | raboof | would almost suspect the syntax for symlinking isn't consistent across versions of 'ln', or something |
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| 19:07.49 | raboof | almost everyone seems to have trouble remembering the right order :) |
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| 19:08.32 | raboof | or perhaps it's just because it's the other way around compared to 'cp' and 'mv' |
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| 19:09.33 | cheebu | root@Debian-60-squeeze-64-LAMP /home/sphere # cd /usr/local/lib |
| 19:09.33 | cheebu | root@Debian-60-squeeze-64-LAMP /usr/local/lib # ln -s libmysqlclient.so.15 /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16 |
| 19:09.33 | cheebu | ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16': File exists |
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| 19:09.40 | void | hi |
| 19:09.45 | valdyn_ | cheebu: so i had the order wrong |
| 19:10.01 | void | someone here got thunderbird configured with gmail <smtp> ? |
| 19:10.18 | valdyn_ | void: ask your real question. |
| 19:10.25 | surplus | My ubuntu domU doesn't load any xen modules on boot. How do I rebuild the initrd so all the right xen modules will be loaded at boot time? |
| 19:10.35 | cheebu | so i do ln -s /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16 libmysqlclient.so.15 ? |
| 19:10.42 | cheebu | or how? |
| 19:10.48 | valdyn_ | cheebu: yes, thats what i meant |
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| 19:11.25 | Skummel | void: If you got the standard thunderbird install it's no problem to get your gmail account set up through smtp |
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| 19:11.29 | void | i cant send emails using the smtp of gmail |
| 19:11.40 | valdyn_ | void: you need to use authentication |
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| 19:11.54 | raboof | void: can you cannect to it with telnet? some ISP's block outgoing smtp connections. |
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| 19:12.31 | void | this is my config: |
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| 19:13.16 | valdyn_ | void: iirc gmail supports tls and ssl, just try both if one refuses to work on their default ports |
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| 19:13.44 | oobe | just to be clear it cheebu its ln -s /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16 /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.15 |
| 19:13.50 | void | server name: smtp.gmail.con port: 587 auth method: normal pass security : SSL/TLS |
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| 19:14.20 | valdyn_ | void: use ssl instead |
| 19:14.31 | DL7LN | i just installed freeradius via apt-get, but the /etc/freeradius/freeradius.conf or radius.conf are missing...what's going on and how can i fix it? |
| 19:15.29 | valdyn_ | void: the name is smtp.gmail.com, not smtp.gmail.con |
| 19:15.30 | void | valdyn the only option thunderbird gives me its: SSL/TLS |
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| 19:16.08 | void | the config looks good but i dont know why its not working |
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| 19:16.34 | valdyn_ | void: STARTTLS is another option there |
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| 19:16.51 | cheebu | root@Debian-60-squeeze-64-LAMP /home/sphere # ./spheresvr |
| 19:16.51 | cheebu | ./spheresvr: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:17.12 | valdyn_ | void: you can also use port 465 for ssl/tls |
| 19:17.16 | void | val i know its .com i just wrote con here |
| 19:17.28 | void | let me try that |
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| 19:18.50 | cheebu | can some one baby step me through this |
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| 19:20.02 | valdyn_ | cheebu: verify that the proper symlink exists in /usr/local/lib |
| 19:20.10 | valdyn_ | cheebu: then run "ldconfig" and try again |
| 19:20.33 | valdyn_ | cheebu: you can verify like this : "ls -l /usr/local/lib/libmysql*" |
| 19:21.31 | void | now its asking me a password my gmail password seems not to work neither the password the admin has given me |
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| 19:22.02 | cheebu | its there now run ldconfig? |
| 19:22.10 | valdyn_ | cheebu: yes |
| 19:22.26 | cheebu | in that same directory right |
| 19:22.35 | valdyn_ | void: show us your username for gmail, just schematically, not the real username |
| 19:23.14 | boudiccas | cheebu; use your common sense and think for yourself, you can do it :) |
| 19:23.19 | cheebu | still getting the same error |
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| 19:23.25 | saturne | hello |
| 19:23.52 | DL7LN | i just installed freeradius via apt-get, but the /etc/freeradius/freeradius.conf or radius.conf are missing...what's going on and how can i fix it? |
| 19:23.54 | valdyn_ | cheebu: copy the symlink into the same directory as the program |
| 19:24.03 | void | u mean username@gmail.com ? |
| 19:24.06 | boudiccas | cheebu; what exactly does the error message say? |
| 19:24.10 | valdyn_ | void: yes |
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| 19:24.42 | shad0VV | hello |
| 19:24.50 | cheebu | root@Debian-60-squeeze-64-LAMP /home/sphere # ./spheresvr |
| 19:24.50 | cheebu | ./spheresvr: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:25.00 | abrotman | that's your hostname?! |
| 19:25.10 | shad0VV | does anyone have issue with dbus shutdown/reboot about authorization? |
| 19:25.23 | valdyn_ | !tell shad0VV -about ask |
| 19:25.34 | valdyn_ | void: yes, thats what i mean |
| 19:25.42 | void | the new work where i went in is asking me to use gmail smtp with ssl port 587 (this doesnt work) with the port u gave me it seems asking me for a pass but not work |
| 19:26.08 | valdyn_ | void: so everything but probably the username and the password is fine |
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| 19:26.17 | shad0VV | I have issue with dbus shutdown/reboot about authorization |
| 19:26.24 | void | I got in < |
| 19:26.27 | shad0VV | ck sessions are correct |
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| 19:26.38 | shad0VV | but i am not Authorized |
| 19:26.40 | void | i can get emails without problem |
| 19:26.56 | void | or maybe should i look for another smtp |
| 19:27.14 | valdyn_ | void: maybe you should fix your username and password |
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| 19:27.29 | void | what u mean with "fix" ? |
| 19:27.50 | valdyn_ | void: google smtp works fine with probably more programs and devices than any other mail provider |
| 19:28.19 | valdyn_ | ( google sucks for different reasons but thats offtopic ;) |
| 19:28.32 | void | i bet it does but its not working for me :P |
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| 19:28.55 | saturne | i search to sign with S/MIME certificate the mail. Mails with just text, just html, with text and html, and with attatchments. So i've read the rfc, but don't found howto construct how to build the PKCS7 signature when I sign text and html and attachments. Anyone has the info on it? |
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| 19:30.11 | cheebu | can some one baby step me through this... |
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| 19:31.14 | valdyn_ | cheebu: did you already try copying the symlink to the same directory as the program? |
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| 19:32.07 | cheebu | ya but i think i did it crooked cuz it doesent look like symlink no more |
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| 19:32.29 | valdyn_ | cheebu: what does it look like then? |
| 19:33.11 | cheebu | just says libmysqlclient.so.15 |
| 19:33.23 | cheebu | without -> lib* |
| 19:33.34 | valdyn_ | cheebu: err? |
| 19:33.44 | boudiccas | cheebu; what? |
| 19:33.52 | valdyn_ | cheebu: i get it, you recreated the real file, thats not a problem |
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| 19:34.08 | cheebu | give me the command to copy symlink |
| 19:34.30 | valdyn_ | cheebu: LD_PRELOAD=libmysqlclient.so.15 ./spheresvr |
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| 19:36.38 | cheebu | oot@Debian-60-squeeze-64-LAMP /home/sphere # LD_PRELOAD=libmysqlclient.so.15 . /spheresvr |
| 19:36.38 | cheebu | ERROR: ld.so: object 'libmysqlclient.so.15' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded : ignored. |
| 19:36.38 | cheebu | ./spheresvr: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 19:37.20 | scramasaxus | hi there |
| 19:37.23 | cheebu | if i gave you the server login would you be able to make it run for me... plz |
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| 19:37.55 | TehAndrewRyan_ | how would i use chown to gain ownership of external media? |
| 19:37.55 | valdyn_ | cheebu: maybe, maybe not, I would probably be able to experiment quicker |
| 19:38.13 | valdyn_ | cheebu: but then again, who would be insane enough to hand out passwords to random people on the internet |
| 19:38.15 | TehAndrewRyan_ | i've for some reason lost ownership of my other internal drives |
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| 19:39.17 | valdyn_ | cheebu: run "file ./AMP /home/sphere # LD_PRELOAD=libmysqlclient.s |
| 19:39.20 | valdyn_ | gah |
| 19:39.25 | valdyn_ | nvm that |
| 19:40.07 | valdyn_ | cheebu: again: run "file ./spheresvr" and "file ./libmysqlclient.so.15" |
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| 19:41.15 | jetscreamer | !ntfs-rw |
| 19:41.20 | jetscreamer | hmmm |
| 19:41.26 | jetscreamer | !ntfsrw |
| 19:41.26 | dpkg | NTFS-3G is a userspace driver providing NTFS read and write support. "aptitude install ntfs-3g". Usage examples: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/#usage . Also ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
| 19:41.40 | trewq | Hi folks - I have a server that is running debian 4.0 and would like to upgrade.. what is the least risky way to upgrade to the latest release? |
| 19:41.51 | jetscreamer | !upgrade |
| 19:41.51 | dpkg | i heard upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first. Ask me about <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze>. |
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| 19:42.31 | jetscreamer | !tell trewq -about lenny->squeeze |
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| 19:43.17 | trewq | I think I'm older than Lenny |
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| 19:43.35 | jetscreamer | 4.0 sounds lenny-ish but i dunno |
| 19:43.46 | boudiccas | trewq; wasn't etch debian 4.0 ? |
| 19:43.47 | trewq | when I do "cat /etc/issue", I get Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 |
| 19:43.51 | jetscreamer | maybe that was 5 |
| 19:43.54 | zykotick9 | jetscreamer, lenny is 5 |
| 19:43.55 | trewq | I think it is etch |
| 19:43.56 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 19:44.00 | Derpadong | etch is 4 |
| 19:44.00 | ompaul | it is etch |
| 19:44.23 | trewq | so how to etch -> squeeze. I am very nervous doing this. |
| 19:44.27 | jetscreamer | ok so do etch to lenny then lenny to squeeze , unless it says there's no issues going etch to squeeze |
| 19:44.32 | ompaul | upgrade from etch to lenny to squeeze and read the release notes |
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| 19:45.07 | trewq | ok.. how to upgrade from etch -> Lenny.. I am happy to read up on this |
| 19:45.17 | cafuego | trewq: It'll work fine, just follow the release notes. |
| 19:45.30 | jetscreamer | !tell trewq -about etch->lenny |
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| 19:45.39 | cafuego | trewq: get the lenny release notes, they'll be on the CD and on the bot :-) |
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| 19:46.20 | trewq | ok.. I am on etch now, and I did "apt-get upgrade git".. I get "Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/l/lcms/liblcms1_1.15-1.1+etch3_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 128.101.240.212 80]" |
| 19:46.58 | ompaul | ehhh do the upgrades first |
| 19:46.58 | cafuego | trewq: I think you want 'git-core' and I think you'll want a backport. |
| 19:47.06 | jetscreamer | it's apt-get upgrade, OR apt-get install git |
| 19:47.17 | cafuego | !info git etch |
| 19:47.30 | cafuego | thanks dpkg |
| 19:47.40 | cafuego | FIXME: files//debian/Packages-etch-main-i386.gz does not exist? - win |
| 19:47.51 | jetscreamer | how about |
| 19:47.57 | jetscreamer | !info git oldstable |
| 19:48.05 | ompaul | ,info git etch |
| 19:48.05 | judd | Package git (vcs, optional) in squeeze/i386: fast, scalable, distributed revision control system. Version: 1:1.7.2.5-2; Size: 4744.3k; Installed: 9940k; Homepage: http://git-scm.com/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/git |
| 19:48.06 | jetscreamer | oh duh nvm |
| 19:48.16 | jetscreamer | i'm gonna crawl back in my stupid hole |
| 19:48.16 | trewq | ok.. I think I'll do the upgrade first |
| 19:48.29 | ompaul | trewq: it is the safest thing to do |
| 19:48.41 | cafuego | trewq: Yes, close some security holes. Maybe 500 or so ;-) |
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| 19:48.56 | ompaul | cafuego: oh come on its only 372 |
| 19:49.11 | cafuego | was, uh ... rounding? |
| 19:49.16 | ompaul | haha |
| 19:49.24 | trewq | so when I do the upgrade, I still get the same error.. since it is Unable to fetch some archives, what do I need to point it to? |
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| 19:49.41 | cafuego | to the nearest 2^8 or somesuch |
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| 19:49.48 | boudiccas | ompaul; i've told you a million times, don't exaggerate, its 370! |
| 19:49.53 | trewq | I am on etch now, and I did "apt-get upgrade".. I get "Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/l/lcms/liblcms1_1.15-1.1+etch3_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 128.101.240.212 80]" |
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| 19:50.15 | cafuego | trewq: Just running äpt-get upgrade" won't do anything. |
| 19:50.28 | ompaul | trewq: you are going to have to learn things hang on a sec |
| 19:50.30 | jetscreamer | and do your sources say etch, or stable |
| 19:50.44 | Derpadong | Well he could upgrade to squeeze since its much better |
| 19:50.48 | cafuego | trewq: You need to modify your sources.list, then update, then upgrade ... AFTER reading the release notes. |
| 19:50.50 | Derpadong | =P |
| 19:50.53 | ompaul | jetscreamer: look at the liblcms ... |
| 19:50.53 | boudiccas | Trewas; do .... sudo apt-get update ......... and then sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 19:50.56 | jetscreamer | Derpadong: that's the idea |
| 19:51.00 | ompaul | Derpadong: he has been advised |
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| 19:51.35 | boudiccas | sorry Trewas i meant trewq |
| 19:52.51 | cafuego | bed |
| 19:52.54 | ompaul | trewq: please check http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive#non-us-archive |
| 19:53.00 | ompaul | night / morning cafuego |
| 19:53.02 | trewq | here is my source list http://pastebin.com/3G5kSSJx |
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| 19:54.12 | trewq | what all do I need to change in my source list? |
| 19:54.15 | ompaul | trewq: please read the page I posted the answer is at the top - you should guess that etch is in there in place of hamm etc |
| 19:54.34 | trewq | ok.. |
| 19:54.53 | jetscreamer | change the word etch to lenny if you're going etch->lenny->squeeze |
| 19:55.11 | jetscreamer | but there may be more issues i don't know about |
| 19:55.26 | ompaul | first you update etch to its final position and then jump ship |
| 19:55.35 | ompaul | good practice is always nice |
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| 19:57.13 | trewq | ok.. got rid of my security source and added the archive source.. Now I get "There are no public key available for the following key IDs" |
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| 19:57.30 | jetscreamer | wheee |
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| 19:57.48 | jetscreamer | isn't there a package for that? |
| 19:57.55 | jetscreamer | there was |
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| 19:59.07 | jetscreamer | !gpgkey |
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| 20:00.22 | jetscreamer | !info debian-archive-keyring |
| 20:00.25 | abrotman | he probably needs the debian-keyring package |
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| 20:00.39 | abrotman | judd: info debian-keyring --release squeeze |
| 20:00.40 | judd | Package debian-keyring (misc, optional) in squeeze/i386: GnuPG keys of Debian Developers. Version: 2010.12.29; Size: 30343.7k; Installed: 34988k; Homepage: http://keyring.debian.org/ |
| 20:00.41 | trewq | I am "gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys XXXX" |
| 20:00.45 | dpkg | debian-archive-keyring: (GnuPG archive keys of the Debian archive), section misc, is important. Version: 2010.08.28 (sid), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
| 20:00.52 | abrotman | erm .. yeah .. debian-archive-keyring .. not hte other :) |
| 20:00.54 | trewq | trying to see if I can fetch that key.. |
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| 20:01.16 | ompaul | trewq: I take it you did apt-get update |
| 20:01.33 | jetscreamer | apt-get install debian-archive-keyring |
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| 20:02.12 | trewq | installed that package, and got to "GPG error: http://archive.debian.org woody/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" |
| 20:02.30 | trewq | ompaul: yes. I am doing apt-get update |
| 20:02.49 | jetscreamer | woody... my first linux distro |
| 20:03.07 | jetscreamer | you'd think i'd know something.. but nooooo |
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| 20:04.07 | ompaul | jetscreamer: can you see this ... if so you know your nick ;-) |
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| 20:04.12 | thewanderer1 | how can I find out if a DVD I burned is still open for writing, and if so, how to add data to it? I'm on GNOME, Squeeze. |
| 20:04.47 | Derpadong | Does the disk say DVD-R or DVD-RW on it? |
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| 20:05.39 | trewq | I got rid of the archive source, and it is proceeding.. I hate to move forward without understanding why it is working now.. oh well |
| 20:05.41 | thewanderer1 | it's a DVD+R, but I think there's an option somewhere to leave a session open for appending |
| 20:05.58 | jetscreamer | trewq: at a guess if you got that woody error as the archive key was installing, most keys got added.. but i dunno |
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| 20:06.17 | trewq | after I did update, I am doing an "apt-get upgrade" |
| 20:07.03 | Derpadong | Doesnt mean you can write over stuff but you can add stuff to it anyways |
| 20:07.11 | boudiccas | thewanderer1; it doesnt sound like a rewritable disk |
| 20:07.35 | boudiccas | thewanderer1; if it was it would be DVD+RW |
| 20:07.44 | thewanderer1 | boudiccas: I know, I don't mean rewriting but appending to an open session |
| 20:07.47 | jetscreamer | iirc you can tell it to go ahead anyway when you get There are no public key available for the following key IDs... |
| 20:07.54 | cantido | +R supports multiple sessions |
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| 20:08.17 | thewanderer1 | does it? ok, how can I append a session to this? |
| 20:08.28 | thewanderer1 | Brasero is really not helpful |
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| 20:09.27 | cantido | thewanderer1: I dont know how you find out if the disc is still open.. I'm not sure if +R has that concept.. but I'm pretty sure the advantage of +R over -R is multiple sessions |
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| 20:10.20 | jetscreamer | there is a 'finalize disc' option to disable appending |
| 20:10.32 | jetscreamer | but i know nothing.. least not much |
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| 20:10.33 | trewq | arrgh - this is too nerve racking |
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| 20:10.48 | jetscreamer | back your stuff up and do a clean install |
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| 20:11.03 | jetscreamer | oh.. ALWAYS BACK UP FIRST |
| 20:11.25 | thewanderer1 | cantido: will multiple session overwrite the original filesystem, or add to its contents? |
| 20:11.33 | jetscreamer | no matter what... so you should have already backed up stuff |
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| 20:12.14 | jetscreamer | seems to me adds on the end, but i've 'never' done multiple sessions, just seen the options |
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| 20:12.18 | cantido | thewanderer1: apparently both -R and +R can do multisession. +R is apparently better at it |
| 20:12.40 | cali | how can I forbid a process from using network? |
| 20:12.42 | cantido | thewanderer1: its appened with cd's at least |
| 20:12.44 | trewq | jetscreamer: appreciate the feedback :) |
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| 20:12.53 | thewanderer1 | oh well, I've got a plenty of space left... perhaps I should just re-record the whole thing to "refresh" my backup, with the new files added :P |
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| 20:13.42 | trewq | when I do an apt-get upgrade.. is it upgrading me to lenny? |
| 20:13.56 | jetscreamer | no |
| 20:14.00 | jetscreamer | updating etch |
| 20:14.21 | jetscreamer | unless you changed the sources |
| 20:14.37 | jetscreamer | and you should use dist-upgrade when you do.... i believe |
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| 20:14.53 | ompaul | trewq: path is and write this down, update etch, reboot, update to lenny, reboot, update to squeeze, all need sources changes |
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| 20:15.08 | ompaul | you should be doing the first one atm |
| 20:15.12 | boudiccas | trewq; do you need upgrading as well? its harder to upgrade a human being, but they managed it on startrek so it must be possible |
| 20:16.02 | trewq | "update to lenny" - is this doable through a CD or can it be doing through apt-get? |
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| 20:16.29 | jetscreamer | both should work, ass-u-me-ing you only have packages install that are actually on the cd |
| 20:16.30 | ompaul | trewq: apt-get - if you are going to burn a cd burn Squeeze |
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| 20:16.54 | ilya80 | Hey guys! :) |
| 20:16.55 | jetscreamer | s/install/installed/ |
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| 20:17.04 | ompaul | trewq: in which case back up your data and do a fresh install |
| 20:17.13 | trewq | thanks ompaul - |
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| 20:17.31 | boudiccas | ilya80; sexist! |
| 20:17.45 | ilya80 | ouch! |
| 20:17.47 | ilya80 | sowwy |
| 20:17.49 | ilya80 | hey :D |
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| 20:18.00 | jetscreamer | if you have to call female occifers in the military sir, i don't see a problem :) |
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| 20:18.17 | cantido | jetscreamer: what about half male half female furries? |
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| 20:18.22 | ilya80 | damn i just caught myself thinking " what is she doing in #debian " |
| 20:18.26 | boudiccas | all female officers here are called 'ma'am |
| 20:18.26 | ilya80 | so you were right :< |
| 20:19.03 | ironm | guys ... it is debian channel .. not debian-social *g* |
| 20:19.16 | ilya80 | shutting up. |
| 20:19.32 | ilya80 | i`m actually reading through debian live how-to before i start asking stupid quiestions |
| 20:19.32 | tylkas | > guys |
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| 20:19.37 | cantido | thought guys could be used for everyone anyhow |
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| 20:20.13 | boudiccas | cantido; not here in the UK |
| 20:20.20 | cantido | boudiccas: I'm from the UK |
| 20:20.24 | jetscreamer | : a rope, chain, rod, or wire attached to something as a brace or guide âcalled also guyline |
| 20:20.35 | ompaul | !offtopic |
| 20:20.35 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 20:20.58 | ompaul | or I'll start chattering and I promise you I'll melt your brains ;-) |
| 20:21.12 | ironm | ilya80, debian live image - http://www.it-infrastrukturen.com/fileadmin/linux/debian-live-xen/README.xen-live |
| 20:21.26 | ironm | rsync -avP rsync://www.it-infrastrukturen.ch/ftp/xen411-wheezy-kernel3-amd64-live-gnome-binary-hybrid.iso . |
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| 20:21.48 | jetscreamer | ilya80: think there's a #debian-live too, for those hard to answer specifics |
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| 20:22.10 | ironm | ilya80, OFTC / #debian-live |
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| 20:22.33 | trewq | rebooting now.. |
| 20:22.41 | ilya80 | k thanks for the pointer! |
| 20:23.07 | ompaul | trewq: after that change sources to point to lenny :-) |
| 20:23.40 | jetscreamer | aand dist-upgrade , right? not jsut upgrade |
| 20:23.52 | ompaul | correct |
| 20:24.02 | jhutchins_lt | full-upgrade post-etch |
| 20:24.07 | ompaul | but wait for the reboot, methinks |
| 20:24.32 | jetscreamer | full-upgrade ? |
| 20:24.40 | trewq | ompaul - thanks :).. I am looking for source.list for lenny.. the machine came up fine |
| 20:24.43 | jetscreamer | doesn't make one of the many comments that comes to mind |
| 20:24.49 | ompaul | http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-upgrade-from-debian-etch-40-to-lenny-50.html |
| 20:24.52 | jetscreamer | just change the word etch to lenny |
| 20:25.03 | deadbeef | HELLO DEAR SWEET FRIENDS i have a problem!!! |
| 20:25.13 | jetscreamer | and make those security updates have contrib |
| 20:25.37 | jetscreamer | in your sources, i noticed they only have main, but your regular has main non-free contrib |
| 20:25.39 | jhutchins_lt | !sources.list |
| 20:25.39 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
| 20:25.48 | deadbeef | when i standby my laptop it kills the apps i am running, like eclipse |
| 20:25.59 | deadbeef | i am running debian testing |
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| 20:26.43 | jhutchins_lt | deadbeef: Congratulations! Your test successfully found a problem! |
| 20:26.46 | jetscreamer | installer puts main contrib by default on security line |
| 20:26.57 | jhutchins_lt | deadbeef: Please check the <bts> to see if it's been reported. |
| 20:27.08 | deadbeef | guys any idea why my debian wheezy kills the apps i am running when i standby my laptop??? |
| 20:27.31 | jhutchins_lt | !bts |
| 20:27.31 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
| 20:27.35 | deadbeef | ah ok thanks |
| 20:27.36 | jetscreamer | wow... the answer right on top of the question |
| 20:27.49 | jetscreamer | lag |
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| 20:28.18 | trewq | ompaul: thank you for the link.. following it now |
| 20:28.22 | deadbeef | i actually googled the bug plus debian wheezy but got nothing |
| 20:28.42 | ompaul | deadbeef: google is not bugs.debian.org just in case ;-) |
| 20:28.43 | deadbeef | so maybe i misconfigured something |
| 20:28.56 | jhutchins_lt | deadbeef: Suspend to ram or to disk? |
| 20:29.03 | jhutchins_lt | deadbeef: Using what tool? |
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| 20:29.50 | deadbeef | jhutchins_lt: ram i think, closing the lid |
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| 20:30.04 | trewq | updating the core apt packages now |
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| 20:30.48 | thewanderer1 | when I try to unmount a removable device (any: USB drive, CD-ROM) under GNOME, I'm asked about the root password. I can mount without any issues, but now GNOME tells me >> |
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| 20:31.19 | thewanderer1 | >>that the root password is needed to "unmount devices mounted by another user" |
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| 20:32.22 | jetscreamer | you mounted it/them using the gnome automount stuff, just clicked the icon and it was magically mounted? just curious |
| 20:32.42 | deadbeef | i am guessing if UBUNTU kils apps too when it's put on standby |
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| 20:32.59 | strycore | Hi, some package ( snes9x-gtk ) has been deleted from the archives, I don't care what it takes but I way to put it back in the repositories, should I start a Debian Maintainer training right now ? or is there another faster way to get this package back in the archives ? |
| 20:33.02 | deadbeef | maybe it's time i switch to some decent distribution |
| 20:33.07 | ompaul | deadbeef: tell me this, why was ubuntu mentioned? |
| 20:33.19 | ompaul | ohh the blackmail option |
| 20:33.26 | ompaul | ahh have a nice trip |
| 20:33.35 | deadbeef | because i heard debian is based on ubuntu |
| 20:33.43 | jetscreamer | lol |
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| 20:33.52 | jetscreamer | other way |
| 20:33.56 | ompaul | deadbeef: oooooo I think you got that wrong |
| 20:34.03 | jetscreamer | sid with security fixes |
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| 20:34.33 | jhutchins_lt | deadbeef: Does suspend work correctly with stable instead of testing? |
| 20:34.43 | abrotman | is he even using Debian ? |
| 20:35.02 | trewq | well.. Need to get 693MB of archives :) |
| 20:35.04 | jetscreamer | strycore just learn to compile it for yourself using upstream sources, for updates. |
| 20:35.20 | trewq | will be back tomorrow or later today. |
| 20:35.24 | jetscreamer | what's the factoid, simple sid backport? |
| 20:35.26 | ompaul | trewq: as long as you know that you will have the same kind of thing for squeeze y |
| 20:35.31 | jetscreamer | same principle isn't it |
| 20:35.32 | ompaul | !ssb |
| 20:35.33 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 20:35.36 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: Said it was testing. |
| 20:35.44 | abrotman | he said he googled it? |
| 20:35.50 | trewq | Very much appreciate the help.. |
| 20:35.52 | jhutchins_lt | wheezy actually. |
| 20:35.52 | ompaul | yeah |
| 20:35.56 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: Yup. |
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| 20:36.04 | strycore | jetscreamer, this is not enough for me, one of my project expects this package to exist in the archives |
| 20:36.05 | abrotman | doesn't mean he's running it .. |
| 20:36.22 | ompaul | trewq: enjoy |
| 20:36.30 | deadbeef | jhutchins_lt: i am with my laptop only, in a foreign country and rarely with an internet connection |
| 20:36.38 | deadbeef | can't use any stable atm |
| 20:36.54 | trewq | ok -- I am looking at what a "backport" means |
| 20:37.01 | trewq | and why I should care |
| 20:37.16 | jhutchins_lt | deadbeef: What's the point of a testing install if you don't have a stable install to compare it to? |
| 20:37.25 | jetscreamer | strycore: go to the package page and see why it's out, yadda yadda... |
| 20:37.25 | deadbeef | guys btw why did you come up with this "debian" fork -- wasn't ubuntu decent enough ? |
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| 20:37.37 | jetscreamer | ah he's teasing/baiting |
| 20:37.37 | jhutchins_lt | !ubuntu |
| 20:37.37 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 20:37.38 | trewq | ok I know what a backport is |
| 20:37.44 | jetscreamer | !troll |
| 20:37.45 | jhutchins_lt | !based on debian |
| 20:37.45 | dpkg | In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts rude or offensive messages on the Internet, such as in online discussion forums, to disrupt discussion or to upset its participants. "Troll" can also mean the message itself or be a verb meaning to post such messages. "Trolling" is also commonly used to describe the activity. Rule #1: Don't feed the troll. Rule #2: Really, don't feed the troll. Rule #3: See rule #1. |
| 20:37.52 | strycore | jetscreamer, orphaned, dead upstream, low popcon; |
| 20:37.53 | abrotman | flooding the channel ... |
| 20:37.55 | ompaul | trewq: go to squeeze and then you don't bp to lenny :) |
| 20:38.16 | ilya80 | deadbeef is a troll :P |
| 20:38.18 | deadbeef | jhutchins_lt: more up to date software |
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| 20:38.30 | abrotman | deadbeef: is your laptop running Debian or Ubuntu ? |
| 20:38.31 | jetscreamer | strycore: become a maintainer, or host your own package repo and redo your app to use your repo |
| 20:38.50 | jetscreamer | strycore: at a guess those are the options.. no idea. |
| 20:38.59 | deadbeef | abrotman: debian wheezy |
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| 20:39.00 | deadbeef | i am following testing |
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| 20:39.10 | abrotman | deadbeef: please stop discussing ubuntu then |
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| 20:39.21 | abrotman | deadbeef: and please stop trolling |
| 20:39.24 | deadbeef | can't even update, because i rarely get an internet connection |
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| 20:39.38 | deadbeef | i am not trolling |
| 20:39.40 | jetscreamer | you know he's gotta be a troll with the word fork |
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| 20:39.52 | strycore | jetscreamer, i don't want my app to ask for root access anywhere, I think I'll distribute binaries without a package then, it will solve many of my problems |
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| 20:40.23 | GTRsdk2 | how do I get newer versions of my applications into debian? |
| 20:40.26 | ilya80 | distributing app as binaries is a bad idea? |
| 20:40.37 | abrotman | ilya80: like Debian? |
| 20:40.42 | thewanderer1 | hey wow, Brasero managed to import a session and append data to it. this rocks :D |
| 20:40.47 | rudi_s | !tell GTRsdk2 about backports |
| 20:40.57 | Bushmills | biggest problem with an /ignore is all the people keeping up the thread |
| 20:41.01 | rudi_s | Normally you don't in stable versions of Debian. |
| 20:41.06 | thewanderer1 | still, problems with mounting/umounting persist. |
| 20:41.28 | LinuxGuy2009 | I installed plymouth on my netbook yesterday and changed the default theme and it works great. Right now Im trying to get my desktop machine using plymouth as well. I tried the same thing, but this time I cant change the default theme. It always comes up with the text theme. Could it be due to me using a non-free video driver from nvidias website? Is there a solution to this? |
| 20:41.40 | GTRsdk2 | rudi_s: I don't want a backport, I want to get a newer version into experimental/unstable |
| 20:42.00 | GTRsdk2 | but it doesn't exist in experimental |
| 20:42.07 | abrotman | GTRsdk2: which package? |
| 20:42.15 | jetscreamer | compile from upstream source |
| 20:42.16 | GTRsdk2 | abrotman: xmoto |
| 20:42.22 | abrotman | judd: versions xmoto |
| 20:42.23 | judd | Package xmoto on i386 -- lenny: 0.4.2-3; squeeze: 0.5.2-2+b1; sid: 0.5.5-1; wheezy: 0.5.5-1 |
| 20:42.25 | nyuszika7h | It looks like someone typoed when setting limit! |
| 20:42.31 | nyuszika7h | Shouldn't it be 1337? :P |
| 20:42.57 | abrotman | GTRsdk2: it's .2 versions behind |
| 20:43.05 | deadbeef | guys i think i fixed debian |
| 20:43.05 | deadbeef | Wheezy is still in testing status, so it's configuration may change rapidly. A very notable change is that HAL is phased out. If you still have the hal package installed, you should remove it or it will interference with pm-utils during suspend |
| 20:43.13 | GTRsdk2 | abrotman: almost 3 |
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| 20:43.38 | taequx | Hello guys. |
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| 20:43.48 | Lenin_Cat | whats a good webcam recorder other then cheese? |
| 20:43.49 | abrotman | GTRsdk2: you can offer to help the maintainer if you're capable |
| 20:43.54 | abrotman | cheese? |
| 20:44.02 | taequx | I've got problem. I would like to install Debian testing on ASUS 1215N, but the installer cannot find CD-ROM. What should I do? |
| 20:44.12 | abrotman | taequx: did you use unetbootin? |
| 20:44.15 | Lenin_Cat | cheese isnt working for me, trying to record with it just crashes the program |
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| 20:44.39 | jetscreamer | scan the cd again sometimes mostly works.. reburn usually works. |
| 20:44.46 | taequx | abrotman: No. I used dd. Copied iso image directly to usb-drive. |
| 20:44.48 | jhutchins_lt | Lenin_Cat: Which version? |
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| 20:45.17 | Lenin_Cat | jhutchins_kc, 2.30.1 |
| 20:45.22 | jetscreamer | use the usb stick version .iso instead of the cd.version.iso? |
| 20:45.31 | abrotman | taequx: did you read the instructions on how do that ? you should use cat, not dd |
| 20:45.44 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions cheese |
| 20:45.45 | judd | Package cheese on i386 -- lenny: 2.22.3-3; squeeze: 2.30.1-2; sid: 3.0.1-2; wheezy: 3.0.1-2 |
| 20:45.50 | taequx | jetscreamer: Where can I find this? |
| 20:45.56 | abrotman | taequx: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| 20:46.03 | abrotman | jetscreamer: they're the same now |
| 20:46.06 | abrotman | taequx: they're the same now |
| 20:46.11 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/ |
| 20:46.12 | ompaul | cat *.iso > /dev/whateverITis then boot, also try different usb sockets for key |
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| 20:46.16 | GTRsdk2 | abrotman: is there a guide on how to package applications into debian? |
| 20:46.20 | jetscreamer | o |
| 20:46.22 | jhutchins_lt | Lenin_Cat: You could try the backport kernel and see if it handles the camera better. |
| 20:46.23 | abrotman | !tell GTRsdk2 about nmg |
| 20:46.34 | taequx | abrotman: And whats the diffrence between copying via dd and via cat? |
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| 20:46.39 | abrotman | GTRsdk2: but really, contact the maintainer .. see if they want help or if there is something holding them back |
| 20:46.43 | jetscreamer | but there are instructions, i just read some on the usb |
| 20:46.48 | Lenin_Cat | jhutchins_kc, the kernel handles it fine, I can take screenshots, I can view it, etc |
| 20:46.51 | abrotman | taequx: i don't know that there is .. i'm just telling you what the manual says in this case |
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| 20:46.57 | Lenin_Cat | I just cant record with it on cheese |
| 20:46.59 | jhutchins_lt | taequx: cat is file oriented, dd is block oriented. |
| 20:47.15 | GTRsdk2 | abrotman: thanks for the information |
| 20:47.21 | jetscreamer | o nvm that was the live |
| 20:47.22 | abrotman | taequx: it also depends on the exact dd command you used |
| 20:47.40 | taequx | jhutchins_lt: Thanks. |
| 20:47.42 | jetscreamer | Image files suitable for writing to USB keys of the appropriate size. This format is offered in case the BIOS of your system cannot handle booting "hybrid" ISO images from USB keys. |
| 20:47.42 | abrotman | GTRsdk2: see the package page to see who the maintainers are .. but it looks like the debian-games team is partially responsible |
| 20:47.42 | jhutchins_lt | I've displayed and snapshotted, never recorded. Again, that's something that a newer driver might help. |
| 20:48.00 | jetscreamer | so apparently some computers can't hang with hybrid images |
| 20:48.02 | abrotman | jetscreamer: he didn't say that . it clearly boots, the installer can't find the ISO |
| 20:48.21 | taequx | jhutchins_lt: And because of it Debian installer can not find CD-ROM? ;x |
| 20:48.25 | jetscreamer | he said cdrom is what it couldn't find |
| 20:48.38 | jetscreamer | makes me think it's the cdrom image |
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| 20:48.44 | jetscreamer | i dunno |
| 20:48.49 | taequx | jetscreamer: Yes. |
| 20:48.57 | taequx | jetscreamer: And is there any Debian USB stick image? |
| 20:49.13 | jhutchins_lt | There is a fairly common error that makes the system look for the CD. It could be from using the wrong image file, or the wrong procedure, I don't know. |
| 20:49.19 | spersaud | I have amd 64 system ... its now showing xterm colors when I do an ls |
| 20:49.21 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ live, abrotman said they're combined now |
| 20:49.32 | jetscreamer | live has a just stick version |
| 20:49.39 | taequx | I haven't used debian since a few months. |
| 20:49.39 | jhutchins_lt | I know that I used unetbootin from linux and didn't have any trouble with squeeze just prior to release |
| 20:49.41 | spersaud | thats not the case on my 32 bit laptop, I know some things are setup different |
| 20:49.48 | spersaud | how do I remove the colors, I cant stand the colors |
| 20:49.49 | abrotman | jetscreamer: WTF .. NOT what i said |
| 20:49.50 | abrotman | jesus |
| 20:49.57 | abrotman | jetscreamer: perhaps you should also read the installation manual |
| 20:50.17 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: that "cannot find CD" is usually from unetbootin |
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| 20:50.25 | jetscreamer | [15.46.04] <abrotman> jetscreamer: they're the same now |
| 20:50.25 | jetscreamer | [15.46.07] <abrotman> taequx: they're the same now |
| 20:50.32 | jetscreamer | ok |
| 20:50.37 | abrotman | WHERE THE FUCK did i say anything about the live images? |
| 20:50.48 | jetscreamer | no that's not what i said |
| 20:50.49 | taequx | jetscreamer: Thanks much for help. I'm downloading Live. |
| 20:50.51 | Odaym | ho ho ho |
| 20:50.53 | spersaud | let me try google |
| 20:50.56 | Odaym | what's going on? :o |
| 20:51.09 | ompaul | !tell Odaym about debian |
| 20:51.09 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-i386-netinst.iso .. that is the same .. CD or USB .. only need one image |
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| 20:51.23 | abrotman | that is the one taequx needs |
| 20:51.23 | ompaul | Odaym: read the message from the bot please |
| 20:51.24 | abrotman | not the live CD |
| 20:51.38 | abrotman | jetscreamer: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| 20:52.14 | jetscreamer | ok my line was confusing, but i didn't say live and other was combined |
| 20:52.20 | abrotman | neither did i |
| 20:52.24 | jetscreamer | correct |
| 20:52.28 | thewanderer1 | spersaud: try alias ls="ls --color=no" in bashrc or profile |
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| 20:52.44 | Odaym | I was asking about jetscreamer's trolling, not about what's going on in this channel :o |
| 20:52.48 | abrotman | jetscreamer: and now taequx is downloading the wrong image .. great job |
| 20:52.55 | taequx | What will be better for girl? KDE or Gnome3? |
| 20:53.06 | Lenin_Cat | When I try to use my microphone in flash, it only lists "HDA Intel" Which I believe is my microphone, but theres no sound being picked off by it from flash |
| 20:53.07 | jetscreamer | up to the girl.. why not both |
| 20:53.20 | Lenin_Cat | sound recorder, skype, etc work properly |
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| 20:53.22 | abrotman | taequx: squeeze does not have gnome3 .. gnome2.30 or something like that |
| 20:53.24 | Lenin_Cat | but not flash |
| 20:53.37 | Odaym | true, 2.30 |
| 20:53.43 | spersaud | thewanderer1: there is not .bash_rc |
| 20:53.56 | taequx | abrotman: I doesn't matter. I will install for her via Sid and she won't update it since I will be able to upgrade the system. :) |
| 20:53.56 | somiaj | its .bashrc, and if there isn't one in $HOME you can create it |
| 20:54.00 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: I think it's usually unetbootin in Windows, but it could still be from picking the wrong image. |
| 20:54.06 | abrotman | taequx: that's a horrible idea |
| 20:54.15 | taequx | abrotman: Why? |
| 20:54.28 | abrotman | taequx: sid breaks frequently enough that a non-technical user shouldn't be using it |
| 20:54.32 | jhutchins_lt | taequx: You don't want to use sid for someone who doesn't understand system maintenance. Use stable. |
| 20:54.47 | spersaud | why would anyone want to use SID .. |
| 20:54.50 | taequx | jhutchins_lt: Stable or testing? |
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| 20:54.54 | abrotman | stable |
| 20:55.00 | taequx | I think stable is too... old? |
| 20:55.06 | abrotman | a non-technical person won't care about super-new-whizbang-features |
| 20:55.07 | jhutchins_lt | taequx: Is the purpose to use it, or to test the release for bugs? |
| 20:55.07 | spersaud | stable or old is always best .. |
| 20:55.10 | thewanderer1 | !tell taequx about sns |
| 20:55.24 | ompaul | taequx: and your user will have fun when they do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and X disappears |
| 20:55.27 | taequx | jhutchins_lt: No. |
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| 20:55.37 | spersaud | or atleast do a separate install so you can give feedback |
| 20:55.39 | tylkas | spersaud: no |
| 20:55.46 | taequx | Ok guys. I lost. I will instable stable version./ |
| 20:55.51 | taequx | Does stable has KDE4?:) |
| 20:55.54 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 20:55.56 | taequx | *have |
| 20:56.07 | spersaud | tylkas: ? |
| 20:56.09 | spersaud | no what |
| 20:56.13 | abrotman | kde4 and gnome2.3x |
| 20:56.23 | tylkas | spersaud: > spersaud | stable or old is always best .. |
| 20:56.37 | spersaud | tylkas: its not ? |
| 20:56.51 | taequx | Squeeze is now stable, yes? |
| 20:56.54 | abrotman | yes |
| 20:56.55 | taequx | isn't it? |
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| 20:58.28 | taequx | abrotman: I've got one small thing more. Have you ever met two graphic cards on Debian? How does it work? |
| 20:58.34 | abrotman | met? |
| 20:58.52 | taequx | Ekhm.. Any diffrent verb... |
| 20:58.58 | ompaul | taequx: that is not your laptop eh? what is the use case here and are they the same? |
| 20:59.00 | abrotman | taequx: it is possible .. but i think people have better success with one card with two heads |
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| 21:00.04 | taequx | ompaul: No. It's my girlfriends netbook. She will play any stupid games, write documents and surf the Internet. |
| 21:01.01 | taequx | abrotman: No. I mean that this netbook has dwo graphic cards. Intel is used on small CPU usage, for example writing documents, hearing music etc. Nvidia is used on games etc. Do you know what I think about? |
| 21:01.29 | abrotman | taequx: oh, you don't have two physical places to plug in a monitor |
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| 21:01.42 | abrotman | taequx: i'd probably stick to making one of them work |
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| 21:02.00 | ilya80 | my vote aswell |
| 21:02.06 | ompaul | I'd go for the intel - avoid all that stupid stuff with drivers |
| 21:02.08 | cheebu | whats the hotkey to end the program that is currently runing Ctrl+C |
| 21:02.09 | ilya80 | people around tried to get it to work to no avail |
| 21:02.11 | cheebu | ? |
| 21:02.20 | taequx | Intel? |
| 21:02.21 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 21:02.22 | taequx | abrotman: Intel. |
| 21:02.23 | abrotman | cheebu: ctrl-c |
| 21:02.29 | wols_ | taequx: google for bumblebee if you really really want both work at once. however: it is highly experimental and you will have to figure it out yourself pretty much |
| 21:02.44 | abrotman | taequx: that'd be my choice .. but i generally don't support/like nvidia |
| 21:02.56 | cheebu | what if that does not work |
| 21:03.40 | abrotman | open another terminal and kill the process |
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| 21:06.46 | taequx | Ok, so let's go to the conclusion. I have to download LiveCD and write it on USB stick, and then I will be able to install Debian from USB, right? |
| 21:07.20 | cheebu | how to get list of running proceses? |
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| 21:07.51 | phogg | cheebu: use ps |
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| 21:07.52 | ompaul | cheebu: ps auwx | less |
| 21:08.01 | phogg | or top, maybe |
| 21:08.15 | abrotman | taequx: no .. i said that five times .. jetscreamer gave you the wrong link |
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| 21:08.46 | abrotman | taequx: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-i386-netinst.iso .. that is the same .. CD or USB .. only need one image .. if you need amd64/64bit, let me know, and i'll find that instead |
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| 21:08.50 | taequx | abrotman: I haven't read, sorry. I do not use very often IRC, I'm so much sorry. |
| 21:09.10 | taequx | abrotman: No. I would like to have 32bits. |
| 21:09.11 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 21:09.14 | Lenin_Cat | I am upgrading my debain from squeeze to sid, should I run a safe-upgrade? |
| 21:09.18 | jetscreamer | you can install from live image |
| 21:09.22 | taequx | Lenin_Cat: full-upgrade |
| 21:09.36 | abrotman | taequx: please use the ISO i just linked, and please ignore jetscreamer |
| 21:09.43 | Lenin_Cat | so just click no? I am using the update manager gui |
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| 21:10.08 | taequx | Lenin_Cat: I would use aptitude update && aptitude full-ugrade |
| 21:10.12 | wols_ | Lenin_Cat: use apt-get or aptitude |
| 21:10.26 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: just do a dist-upgrade in one step and cross your fingers (you can do it in two steps upgrade then dist-upgrade, but with a major change I'd just do one jump and pray) |
| 21:10.37 | taequx | abrotman: I used that one. |
| 21:11.01 | taequx | And Debian installer can't find CD-ROM. |
| 21:11.08 | abrotman | taequx: did you use cat ? |
| 21:11.15 | taequx | abrotman: Yes. |
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| 21:11.19 | abrotman | or dd ? |
| 21:11.21 | jetscreamer | and i gave him a perfectly fine link it does what he/she asked |
| 21:11.24 | abrotman | you told us dd earlier |
| 21:11.43 | taequx | abrotman: But I did cat few minutes ago. |
| 21:11.47 | abrotman | taequx: do you have the exact command you used to make that installer? |
| 21:11.52 | installer | Hi |
| 21:12.14 | taequx | abrotman: Yes. Would you like to see that? |
| 21:12.27 | abrotman | yes |
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| 21:12.56 | taequx | cat /home/taequx/downloads/debian-6.0.2.1-i386-netinst.iso > /dev/sdb |
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| 21:13.22 | installer | I'm doing a clean install right now but the replica I chose is really slow, can I change the replica while it is downloading packages? |
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| 21:13.31 | abrotman | the mirror? |
| 21:13.43 | installer | yes, that is |
| 21:13.51 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj, your right, I have a windows installation as a backup anyway |
| 21:13.57 | abrotman | taequx: then sync, and then you checked the files? |
| 21:14.11 | wols_ | installer: stop the download and change the mirror, yes |
| 21:14.15 | taequx | abrotman: No, I haven't synced. |
| 21:14.42 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: also its suggested you goto irc.debian.org (offical irc network) and /j #debian-next |
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| 21:15.02 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: might also want to install apt-listbugs first to make sure you don't have any grave or critical bugs at the time of upgrade |
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| 21:15.22 | Lenin_Cat | to late somiaj |
| 21:15.22 | Lenin_Cat | too late. |
| 21:15.22 | installer | wols_: how can I stop it? It's already downloading packages and it doesn't respond pressing escape |
| 21:15.34 | jwaters | hello, i am accessing the security settings of a samba share from windows, is there a way to mask unix accounts root & everyone? |
| 21:15.39 | Lenin_Cat | oh its just getting packages somiaj, is it safe to ctl c |
| 21:15.40 | Lenin_Cat | :P |
| 21:15.43 | cheebu | oke if any 1 can help with this... im starting a program called putty to manipulate remote server... whe i pull up the console i run the program that i need the server to run it works fine... when i close the terminal to log out of the server it closes down the app... |
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| 21:16.02 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: *PRAY* -- and advice for future atempts if needed, upgrade to sid after a base system install (instead of upgrading a full install with a DE for instance) |
| 21:16.18 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: yes, crtl-C during the download won't effect anythign. When you rerun the command it will start downloading where it left oft |
| 21:16.22 | somiaj | off |
| 21:16.23 | prodigel | hi all. I have an old laptop, battery almost dead (gnome reports 2.4% capacity) and above all this a broken power plug. The problem is that almost each time I touch the power cord the laptop tries to go in suspend - which ultimately fails. I would like to disable this, as usually, moving a bit the power cord the plug gets connected back. Is it from acpi settings, or something else? Should I uninstall acpi? I don't really care about the laptop, it's al |
| 21:16.23 | prodigel | ready pretty broken, but it's really annoying to wait for it to shutdown/power on. Thanks |
| 21:17.07 | abrotman | prodigel: i'm having that same issue .. i abused the cord .. |
| 21:17.16 | abrotman | prodigel: did you check the gnome power settings? |
| 21:17.37 | installer | by the way, I'm installing from netinst, interrupt doesn't work either |
| 21:17.40 | prodigel | abrotman, I did, it's of no use. On Battery power the only options I have are suspend/hibernate, none good enough |
| 21:18.24 | thewanderer1 | prodigel: the detailed config should be in gconf2, an equivalent of the Windows registry... |
| 21:18.47 | Lenin_Cat | ok somiaj I installed that package, just return to the upgrade now? |
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| 21:19.33 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: yup, the only thing is it will list any gave/critical bugs in the packages you are upgrading and ask you to confirm again |
| 21:19.42 | taequx | abrotman: I used http://wklej.org/id/587409/ |
| 21:20.01 | taequx | And there is no diffrence. Installer can't find CD-ROM device. |
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| 21:20.19 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: things like 'makes system unbootable' bugs you may want to wait a day or so to upgrade. They are rare, but sid still breaks things |
| 21:21.01 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj, hehe, well I returned it it and it hasnt shown any errors yet |
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| 21:21.14 | jetscreamer | well keep trying |
| 21:21.20 | Lenin_Cat | oh no |
| 21:21.47 | taequx | jetscreamer: me? |
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| 21:21.52 | abrotman | taequx: i believe the eeepc has a similar issue |
| 21:21.57 | abrotman | taequx: what is your netbook model ? |
| 21:22.01 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj, I have a few actually |
| 21:22.04 | taequx | abrotman: ASUS 1215N. |
| 21:22.21 | zorrolero | cheebu: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen |
| 21:22.25 | taequx | abrotman: It is EeePC. |
| 21:22.30 | Lenin_Cat | http://pastebin.com/WHyf67zu |
| 21:22.35 | ilya80 | cheebu: use screen |
| 21:22.36 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: not all will effect you, so you'll have to read though each one and decide if it will be an issue -- or just hit 'Y' and pray as we said eariler |
| 21:22.47 | abrotman | taequx: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallUsingStandardInstaller .. cute .. it says to use dd instead of cat ... |
| 21:22.52 | abrotman | !tell taequx about eeepc |
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| 21:22.58 | Lenin_Cat | soma`, theres a couple of big ones there |
| 21:23.00 | Lenin_Cat | BOOT FAILS |
| 21:23.09 | Lenin_Cat | :P |
| 21:23.14 | taequx | abrotman: I tried dd. It doesn't mattes, as I said. |
| 21:23.16 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj* |
| 21:23.19 | ilya80 | !screen |
| 21:23.19 | dpkg | screen is a terminal multiplexor, allowing you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, scroll back, copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or are disconnected. See /usr/share/doc/screen/README.Debian and ask about <screen tutorial>, <byobu>. See http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnuScreen to keep ctrl-a unbroken. http://www.gnu.org/software/screen #screen on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:23.26 | abrotman | taequx: there's a special channel on irc.oftc.net for people that use eeepcs |
| 21:23.31 | abrotman | ilya80: you can msg the bot |
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| 21:23.39 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: use paste.debian.net -- your site has some silly add I can't close and read what you pasted...:/ |
| 21:23.52 | prodigel | thewanderer1, thanks! I've set it to 'none'. I'll test it right away... |
| 21:24.07 | abrotman | taequx: did you check the contents to see if the thing has written correctly ? |
| 21:24.19 | jetscreamer | you 'could' try the image designed to be used solely on a usb stick, but that would be silly eh |
| 21:24.32 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj, http://paste.debian.net/127889/ |
| 21:24.33 | taequx | abrotman: Yes. I checked. |
| 21:24.34 | Lenin_Cat | adblock |
| 21:24.38 | Lenin_Cat | why dont you has it |
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| 21:25.07 | taequx | jetscreamer: You told me I should use LiveCD to install Debian from USBstick, wasn't it? |
| 21:25.14 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: goto bugs.debian.org/<bug number> for the initscripts bug, I'm surprised that one is still around. I was able to upgrade and not have any grave errors, but that is the only major one I would worry about. |
| 21:25.19 | jetscreamer | livecd/installer |
| 21:25.49 | jhutchins_lt | Sid isn't even supposed to be a working distribution. |
| 21:25.55 | jetscreamer | but they have hybrid images too |
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| 21:26.13 | jhutchins_lt | I'm pretty sure there are much more sane solutions for even the latest eeepc. |
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| 21:26.26 | jetscreamer | as well as the 'designed for systems that don't work and play well with hybrids' option |
| 21:26.51 | jetscreamer | or you could just keep trying abrotman's way |
| 21:26.53 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638341 -- that is the only one I see I would worry about...little info on it. Up to you if you want to hope you don't get effected. |
| 21:26.58 | jetscreamer | obviously the better choice |
| 21:27.11 | abrotman | jetscreamer: it's likely a problem with the eeepc .. that's why i sent him to the eeepc channel |
| 21:27.15 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj, if I just dont upgrade that package what will happen? |
| 21:27.32 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: you will want to upgrade everything at this point if you want sid, you will want the newer initscripts |
| 21:27.33 | taequx | jetscreamer: I can't see any LiveCD image on debian.org... |
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| 21:28.12 | abrotman | taequx: live.debian.net is probably a good place to start |
| 21:28.24 | Lenin_Cat | well somiaj what does it mean it wont boot, like grub wont come up or just debian |
| 21:28.35 | Lenin_Cat | I can take the risk for the second |
| 21:28.36 | Lenin_Cat | :P |
| 21:28.40 | jetscreamer | Official live install images for the "stable" release |
| 21:28.47 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 21:28.48 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: according to that bug you just need to do a ll /etc/init.d/ after the upgrade and ensure you have the +x flag on your scripts. |
| 21:29.02 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj, will it mess up grub? |
| 21:29.04 | ilya80 | hmm why wouldnt it let me mount freshly downloaded debian-live-6. ... .img with "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop <.img> /mnt/iso ? says "bad fs type, bad option ... " etc |
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| 21:29.07 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: so I would upgrade -- I'm just kinda showing you things you should pay attention to and resources. |
| 21:29.10 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: nope |
| 21:29.13 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: grub isn't initscripts |
| 21:29.17 | Lenin_Cat | ok cool |
| 21:29.21 | jetscreamer | taequx: http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
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| 21:29.49 | jetscreamer | USB-HDD |
| 21:29.49 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: againt this dosen't mean other thigns won't break.....you have been warned may times. (: |
| 21:30.10 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: and repeate #debian-next on irc.debian.org is a better place for testing/unstable questions -- actually its the prefered place you go. |
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| 21:30.45 | jetscreamer | taequx: but it mightl probably do the same thing |
| 21:30.51 | Lenin_Cat | * Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only). somiaj |
| 21:30.52 | Lenin_Cat | :P |
| 21:31.07 | taequx | jetscreamer: You mean, the same problem, right? |
| 21:31.08 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: this is not irc.debian.org (the offical debian irc network) |
| 21:31.26 | Lenin_Cat | oh right |
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| 21:31.45 | jetscreamer | taequx: it might, it works fine for me but |
| 21:32.16 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj, how do I escape this text entry, its at end |
| 21:32.18 | Lenin_Cat | but what do I do |
| 21:32.19 | JyZyXEL | whats a good way of keeping hot spares spinned down on squeeze? |
| 21:32.20 | Lenin_Cat | FFFFF |
| 21:32.38 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: it should be asking you 'are you sure you want to upgrade', if so hit 'Y' |
| 21:33.06 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj, it gave me a bunch of scrollable text |
| 21:33.09 | Lenin_Cat | I am done with that |
| 21:33.09 | Lenin_Cat | now |
| 21:33.14 | Lenin_Cat | Its giving me scrollable text |
| 21:33.17 | Lenin_Cat | and END at the bottle |
| 21:33.59 | ilya80 | JyZyXEL: shouldnt spares spin down on their own since they get no activity? |
| 21:34.19 | jhutchins_lt | ilya80: depends on the hardware. |
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| 21:34.27 | ilya80 | yeps |
| 21:34.44 | somiaj | Lenin_Cat: hit 'q', probabaly piped the output to less |
| 21:34.45 | JyZyXEL | not that im aware of? |
| 21:34.47 | xemacs4321 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.52 | ilya80 | i`m assuming JyZyXEL knows his hardware |
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| 21:35.21 | JyZyXEL | i don't think consumer hard drives often spin down unless the OS requests that |
| 21:36.03 | ilya80 | when i had similar question about my mirror i googled it up and found out my HDDs do not support that |
| 21:36.15 | ilya80 | well |
| 21:36.58 | jhutchins_lt | JyZyXEL: It may be configurable with mdadm or hdparm, or it might just not be available with the controller you have. |
| 21:37.06 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: hardware raid? |
| 21:37.17 | JyZyXEL | md |
| 21:37.24 | ilya80 | hdparm |
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| 21:38.11 | MateMathieu | hello |
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| 21:38.56 | MateMathieu | I am new to setting up a file server on debian, and I have question... |
| 21:39.18 | MateMathieu | how do I know its URI? |
| 21:39.46 | MateMathieu | is it like: localhost@domain? |
| 21:40.04 | MateMathieu | ⦠I am setting up samba |
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| 21:41.02 | MateMathieu | I maybe have to request one no? |
| 21:41.15 | jhutchins_lt | MateMathieu: You make it up yourself. |
| 21:41.40 | MateMathieu | jhutchins_It: How? |
| 21:41.41 | mschoolbus | can anyone help me get xorg back and running with nvidia drivers in unstable please? |
| 21:41.50 | jhutchins_lt | MateMathieu: This is one of those wonderful "If you don't know, ask your System Administrator" questions - and you ARE the System Administrator! |
| 21:42.03 | JyZyXEL | well only hdparm option i see that could be of use is -Y |
| 21:42.07 | jhutchins_lt | MateMathieu: What kind of network are you on? Who will be accessing the server? |
| 21:42.12 | MateMathieu | no I am in a university |
| 21:42.15 | JyZyXEL | it pretty much shuts down the drive |
| 21:42.26 | MateMathieu | I should ask them then |
| 21:42.29 | jhutchins_lt | MateMathieu: Is this an official project? |
| 21:42.33 | MateMathieu | yes |
| 21:42.57 | ilya80 | JyZyXEL: -S sets timeout for spindown ? |
| 21:43.03 | jhutchins_lt | In that case, yes. You can probably pick your own hostname as long as it's not offensive or already in use, domain will be assigned by the network admin. |
| 21:43.09 | MateMathieu | ok thank you jhutchins_It |
| 21:43.22 | JyZyXEL | so how about smartmontools then |
| 21:43.27 | JyZyXEL | will that spin up the drive |
| 21:43.40 | JyZyXEL | do you need to exclude the hot spares from smartmontools |
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| 21:44.15 | JyZyXEL | or somehow make sure the drive goes back to sleep after smart check |
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| 21:44.21 | JyZyXEL | if it even spins up for that in the first place |
| 21:44.21 | jhutchins_lt | MateMathieu: In contrast, I register (buy) a domain name and set up an external DNS service to point it at my IP address. My provider doesn't index my IP back to that name, but other than that it works. |
| 21:45.01 | MateMathieu | ok thank you you are making it crystal clear |
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| 21:47.08 | MateMathieu | I wanted to make this file server "idiot proof", do you have any advice? |
| 21:47.55 | jhutchins_lt | Heh. The problem is they're always coming out with a better idiot. |
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| 21:48.34 | jhutchins_lt | MateMathieu: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/TrinityOS/cHTML/TrinityOS-c.html |
| 21:48.47 | jhutchins_lt | MateMathieu: It really depends on what the server will be providing though. |
| 21:48.54 | MateMathieu | cool thanks |
| 21:50.35 | Vasistha | oh god umask strikes again, making everything impossible. So how do I make umask 002 for everything everything everything? |
| 21:50.44 | Vasistha | I thought I had it but it does not work in X sessions D: |
| 21:50.59 | MateMathieu | jhutchins_It: a lot of stuff... |
| 21:51.12 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: hmm. pam_umask? |
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| 21:51.53 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: I changed pam_umask, I thought i did it right... let me look again at exactly what i did |
| 21:52.13 | Vasistha | darn broken shift key. apparently i always use the right shift key, not the left one |
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| 21:52.25 | jhutchins_lt | Vasistha: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
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| 21:54.18 | cheebu | i have a server thats running debian there is a root pwd how do i change it? |
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| 21:54.42 | jetscreamer | passwd |
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| 21:55.00 | cheebu | so to make it password i write passwd password |
| 21:55.08 | cheebu | ya? |
| 21:55.11 | Lesterwood | what does "/exec -o strings -n 5 /dev/urandom" do? |
| 21:55.14 | Vasistha | thewanderer1, jhutchins_lt: I changed it to 002 in /etc/login.defs and I also added a line, "session required pam_umask.so umask=002" to /etc/pam.d/login |
| 21:55.24 | Vasistha | what else do I need to do so that X sessions will be loaded with umask 002? |
| 21:55.41 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: I'm not sure if X sessions use the login program |
| 21:56.00 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: my guess is they don't. so where do I fix it? |
| 21:56.08 | thewanderer1 | more like /etc/pam.d/kdm or gdm or whatever your DM is, or common-session |
| 21:56.09 | jhutchins_lt | Vasistha: The thing is that Xsessions don't have anything to do with creating files. Applications do that. Where do they get their umask? Depends on the app. |
| 21:56.24 | Vasistha | alright... let's see... |
| 21:56.26 | jhutchins_lt | X sessions use xauth. |
| 21:56.48 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins_lt: umask is inherited on fork() AFAIK, so it originally comes from PAM |
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| 21:57.14 | Vasistha | I was so excited when I saw that message stating squeeze would have a default umask of 002, but... it just doesn't. |
| 21:57.39 | jhutchins_lt | If you have to be anal about umasks, stick with the console. |
| 21:57.46 | thewanderer1 | and I don't think xauth is used for authenticating users at login |
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| 21:58.07 | cheebu | repository root is not suported |
| 21:58.09 | Vasistha | it's not that I want to be anal about them. It's that when they are wrong, my team of developers can't share their code |
| 21:58.25 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: Wonder if ?dm does it directly or through pam or what. I think it uses pam. |
| 21:58.48 | Vasistha | fwiw I don't see anything about umask in /etc/pam.d/gdm or /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin |
| 22:00.16 | jhutchins_lt | Vasistha: Chapter 10 might be usefull. |
| 22:00.46 | Vasistha | jhutchins_lt: you've got to check this out XD http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/x-xdm.html |
| 22:01.15 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: then it probably uses common-session, which might or might not include an umask setting |
| 22:01.35 | thewanderer1 | just edit common-session to set it system-wide, and remove umask from all other session config files |
| 22:01.48 | ilya80 | brb |
| 22:02.15 | jhutchins_lt | Vasistha: Not really, I find the way squeeze works by default to be just fine for me. |
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| 22:03.29 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: so do I add a line to common-session similar to the one I put in login? I guess I'll try that |
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| 22:04.10 | thewanderer1 | any idea what the CD/DVD Assistant in GNOME does when it says it's "getting the size"? |
| 22:04.22 | thewanderer1 | (2 minutes already) |
| 22:04.40 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: no love :( |
| 22:04.56 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: how are you testing the umask? |
| 22:05.26 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: invoke-rc.d gdm restart; login, start xterm, umask |
| 22:05.27 | cantido | thewanderer1: what is it getting the size of? |
| 22:05.36 | Vasistha | I think that's the question |
| 22:05.40 | thewanderer1 | cantido: I'd like to know that too... |
| 22:05.47 | cantido | thewanderer1: if you have a lot of deeply nested files it my take a while to get the size.. |
| 22:06.18 | cantido | guesses you added to some files to a CD project or something |
| 22:06.21 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: Bash usually sources /etc/profile or bashrc and, by default, one of these two (both?) contains a umask command... |
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| 22:06.37 | thewanderer1 | cantido: I did... but there was no disk activity going on while counting that :/ |
| 22:06.45 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: when I log into a VT I get 002, so I'm pretty sure I've got those set up properly |
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| 22:07.06 | cantido | thewanderer1: disk cache doing its job maybe :) |
| 22:07.07 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: hmm, then it should be /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 22:07.17 | thewanderer1 | cantido: haha right, and taking 2 minutes :D |
| 22:07.49 | cantido | thewanderer1: du can take an age if you have a deep tree |
| 22:08.17 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't currently have any umask in it, I guess I'll add it |
| 22:09.15 | Vasistha | oh! it worked! ... for the login shell. Let's see if other apps get it as well |
| 22:09.43 | Vasistha | nope, dolphin file manager still has 022 |
| 22:09.52 | thewanderer1 | I don't see how "other apps" would derive anything from bash |
| 22:09.55 | thewanderer1 | hmm |
| 22:10.10 | thewanderer1 | this might not be a great idea, but... rgrep umask /etc |
| 22:10.18 | thewanderer1 | and find the guilty party :P |
| 22:10.38 | abrotman | don't you want a -i ? |
| 22:10.50 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: Probably some hidden config file in the home directory if it's for an x app like dolphin. |
| 22:11.11 | thewanderer1 | abrotman: I don't think so, don't remember any config files / programs that would use capitals |
| 22:11.20 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: Probably configured through some control panel applet that may or may not be included. |
| 22:11.35 | thewanderer1 | hmm, knowing KDE, this should not be the case... |
| 22:12.31 | Lenin_Cat | FUCK |
| 22:12.37 | thewanderer1 | it broke? |
| 22:12.40 | Lenin_Cat | I just actdently interputed a upgrade |
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| 22:13.33 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: /etc/X11/Xsession has a umask on my system... that might have something to do with it |
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| 22:13.46 | jhutchins_lt | Lenin_Cat: Don't worry, with sid it won't make any difference, it'll still be broken. |
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| 22:14.28 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: hum. well... mine doesn't... |
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| 22:15.54 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: sure about that? sounds strange... did you grep the file, look all over it? O.o |
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| 22:16.16 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: grep -i umask /etc/X11/* /etc/X11/*/* |
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| 22:16.40 | Bartzy | Debian doesn't have a SVN package ? :o |
| 22:16.44 | Bartzy | SVN client package |
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| 22:16.59 | thewanderer1 | Bartzy: subversion |
| 22:17.01 | Lenin_Cat | Ok, I can still boot into debian |
| 22:17.08 | Bartzy | thank you. sorry. :| |
| 22:17.09 | Lenin_Cat | dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable. |
| 22:17.09 | dpkg | Lenin_Cat: I give up, what is it? |
| 22:17.11 | Lenin_Cat | dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable. |
| 22:17.15 | Lenin_Cat | dpkg: error: 2 expected programs not found in PATH or not executable. |
| 22:17.15 | dpkg | Lenin_Cat: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 22:17.17 | Lenin_Cat | Note: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin |
| 22:17.19 | Lenin_Cat | :/ |
| 22:17.21 | Lenin_Cat | whoops |
| 22:17.23 | Lenin_Cat | should of used pastebin |
| 22:17.24 | abrotman | Lenin_Cat: use a pastebin |
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| 22:17.39 | Lenin_Cat | abrotman, see my last line |
| 22:17.47 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: hmm, are you on Squeeze? O.o |
| 22:17.54 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: yes, fresh install |
| 22:18.07 | abrotman | Lenin_Cat: see the timestamp .. i had already typed it |
| 22:18.38 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: that's funny, my two squeeze installs have the uname line in /etc/X11/Xsession... |
| 22:18.57 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: I'll check the other squeeze install |
| 22:19.01 | Lenin_Cat | abrotman, must be lagging |
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| 22:19.25 | Lenin_Cat | somiaj, you stil there? |
| 22:19.25 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: you might want to modify the Xsession script to dump the current umask to some temporary file and see what its value is at the beginning of the session |
| 22:19.53 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: you don't mean the line that says 'if (umask 077 && touch ... |
| 22:20.16 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: I do |
| 22:20.24 | abrotman | Lenin_Cat: and what happened to your path? |
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| 22:20.55 | Lenin_Cat | abrotman, no clue |
| 22:20.56 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: do you have another line with a umask? because that line is not going to change the system umask. that umask ends with the right parenthesis. |
| 22:20.56 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: it does look like a kludge for creating the error log file, but in reality I think that it the original umask is never restored... |
| 22:21.08 | Lenin_Cat | I accidently interputted a upgrade |
| 22:21.08 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: hm, are you sure? |
| 22:21.08 | abrotman | Lenin_Cat: echo $PATH |
| 22:21.19 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: yeah, I'm pretty good with the shell. |
| 22:21.35 | Lenin_Cat | abrotman, /home/XXXX/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
| 22:21.47 | Lenin_Cat | XXXX is my user name |
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| 22:22.01 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: ok, my bad... back to grepping the whole etc :P |
| 22:22.13 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: if you go in your terminal and do $ (umask 077; umask); umask; # you'll see |
| 22:22.22 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: yeah I just did that |
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| 22:23.25 | abrotman | Lenin_Cat: that's very wrong .. tha'ts root's path ? |
| 22:23.37 | Lenin_Cat | oh, I forgot to add sudo |
| 22:23.49 | Lenin_Cat | abrotman, same path |
| 22:24.00 | abrotman | still wrong |
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| 22:24.17 | abrotman | Lenin_Cat: try using 'su' instead of sudo .. just FS&G |
| 22:24.41 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: Xsession didn't even get accessed during the X login |
| 22:25.04 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: hmm, that's news to me... how were you checking that? O.o |
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| 22:25.12 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: stat |
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| 22:25.28 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: and the filesystem runs with relatime by default... |
| 22:25.30 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: fs&g? |
| 22:25.34 | Lenin_Cat | abrotman, /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 22:25.37 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: uh... no idea on that one |
| 22:25.51 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: in short, access times are useless, but that's irrelevant now |
| 22:25.56 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: oh wait... excuse me... it did get called, it just took longer than I thought it would |
| 22:26.02 | troutwine | I've just installed phppgadmin and confirm that /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d/pgsql exists but when I access the newly installed phppgadmin I get "Your PHP installation does not support PostgreSQL. You need to recompile PHP using the --with-pgsql configure option." A lot of google references, but not many of them modern. I've installed both phppgadmin and php5-pgsql. |
| 22:26.14 | troutwine | Anyone have any ideas what I need to do differently? |
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| 22:26.32 | jhutchins_lt | !readme.debian |
| 22:26.32 | dpkg | README.Debian (or README.Debian.gz) is a document found in the /usr/share/doc/$packagename/ which explains any Debian specific details in the package's operation or configuration. |
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| 22:27.14 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: for shits and giggles |
| 22:27.20 | abrotman | Lenin_Cat: that looks better |
| 22:29.28 | troutwine | jhutchins_lt: If that was intended for me, I did not find anything apropos there originally. |
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| 22:30.06 | jhutchins_lt | troutwine: I know you pretty much have to consult the README.Debian for phpmysqladmin to work. |
| 22:30.26 | jhutchins_lt | troutwine: Um, did you a2enable the module? |
| 22:30.33 | jhutchins_lt | a2enmod? |
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| 22:33.49 | troutwine | jhutchins_lt: The README.Debian concerns itself with the database setup, which I've not yet gotten to. I haven't tried a2enmod yet. |
| 22:34.09 | troutwine | jhutchins_lt: What module would I enable? |
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| 22:34.41 | jhutchins_lt | Something to do with php & pgsql |
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| 22:36.24 | Lekensteyn | any experts here with multi-arch packaging? |
| 22:36.38 | daemonkeeper | Lekensteyn: #debian-mentors on OFTC |
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| 22:39.17 | troutwine | php5 is already enabled. Trying to issue apache2 -M nets me "bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}". The installation process did enable a large list of modules. |
| 22:39.25 | troutwine | jhutchins_lt: ^^ |
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| 22:41.40 | chops1 | Anyone know how to get emacs to start displaying line numbers when it's stuck in "L??" mode? I've tried skipping to the top of the document, and it still says "L??" instead of "L0". |
| 22:41.45 | daemonkeeper | troutwine: You want to use apache2ctl, not apache2 |
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| 22:42.38 | ws2k3 | does anyone have any idea how this is possible. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/naamloosnv.jpg/ |
| 22:43.07 | ws2k3 | i have 2 machines with both 8 gb on ram. but on one machine less programes uses more ram.. and its the same program.. |
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| 22:43.59 | abrotman | that'd be so much better if i could read it |
| 22:44.33 | Vasistha | ws2k3: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 22:44.34 | troutwine | daemonkeeper: Thanks. |
| 22:44.51 | abrotman | ws2k3: use 'free' not top .. subtract buffers out |
| 22:44.58 | abrotman | !tel ws2k3 about free ram |
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| 22:45.32 | Lekensteyn | daemonkeeper: thanks for the hint |
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| 22:46.03 | troutwine | These are the currently loaded modules: https://gist.github.com/1182308 |
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| 22:47.03 | troutwine | php5 is enabled, and, as previously noted, it's configured to include the pgsql extension. |
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| 22:47.26 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: I've just checked and using pam_umask.so with a UMASK set in login.defs works for me in GNOME |
| 22:47.45 | orfix | Hi, there's no video output for .wmv file using mplayer http://paste.debian.net/127899 , I installed w64codecs by the way (squeeze). any idea ? Thanks. |
| 22:47.53 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: really! so... how do you "use" pam_umask.so ? |
| 22:47.56 | thewanderer1 | also, my laptop just got frozen because of I/O wait when testing the said umask stuff on another user. crappy hardware |
| 22:48.17 | Vasistha | someone once told me that dust is the #1 cause of lockups |
| 22:48.17 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: "session optional pam_umask.so" as the first module in /etc/pam.d/common-session |
| 22:48.36 | Vasistha | ah, the FIRST module. |
| 22:48.46 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: in my case, it's *actual* I/O wait... the system was not hung up, just unresponsive |
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| 22:48.57 | thewanderer1 | need to fit this crap with SSD some day |
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| 22:50.55 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: ugh still not working :( |
| 22:51.01 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: I'm on xfce btw |
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| 22:51.30 | thewanderer1 | is the UMASK set to your desired value in login.defs? |
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| 22:51.53 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: yes it is |
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| 22:51.58 | thewanderer1 | hmm |
| 22:52.16 | overview | hi guys, i have problem with xenserver, when I make file or directory i see msg error Read Only file system, what this? |
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| 22:53.07 | thewanderer1 | I wonder if the umask module actually gets called O.o |
| 22:53.11 | nsadmin | overview, do you know what a filesystem is? |
| 22:53.43 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: well that's part of what I'm wondering, how does this pam shit work anyway? |
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| 22:54.00 | Vasistha | I've never understood it, I think it's somehow linked into the kernel, but I'm not sure how often config files get read you know? |
| 22:54.12 | Vasistha | do I need to reload the pam module for my changes to take effect? |
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| 22:54.53 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: no, it's all userspace |
| 22:54.53 | overview | nsadmin all files I cant remove or create |
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| 22:54.59 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: no, the config is parsed at runtime I think (so at the time you login or su or whatever) |
| 22:55.04 | nsadmin | what operating system do you run? |
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| 22:55.23 | overview | nsadmin xenserver use centos |
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| 22:55.33 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: alright... but we have no idea which of these files get parsed when an xfce session starts |
| 22:55.45 | nsadmin | oh, you might check #centos |
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| 22:55.50 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: that depends on the display manager, not the session itself |
| 22:56.22 | thewanderer1 | it should just call its appropriate session modules and those should link to common-session |
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| 22:56.43 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: you can verify if the umask module works by passing debug option to it |
| 22:58.05 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: how do i do that? |
| 22:59.17 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: session optional pam_umask.so debug |
| 22:59.36 | thewanderer1 | (meant to replace the current entry without debug) |
| 23:01.27 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: and now that I've done that where do I look for that debug info? |
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| 23:01.57 | ilya80 | Hey again :) |
| 23:02.37 | ilya80 | please remind my what do i use to get my devices back? :) like fdisk /dev/sdc shows me i got /dev/sdc1 but its missing from my /dev |
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| 23:03.03 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: /var/log/auth.log I suppose |
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| 23:08.05 | Vasistha | I am just like... in awe of how much this sucks, and of how frickin' difficult it is to solve this problem, and the fact that nobody seems to have any answers about it. I see these developers arguing about what the default should be but none of them actually tell anyone how you can change it. It's just ... argh. |
| 23:08.25 | somiaj | ilya80: its supose to be automatic via udev, if its not automically setting the devices for you via udev, something is wrong with your setup |
| 23:08.30 | Vasistha | like... here's what you do to change the umask to 002. change this file, and this one, and you're done. |
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| 23:08.52 | somiaj | ilya80: the old system of making manual devices with MAKEDEV or the script in /dev has been depreicated to udev a few releases ago |
| 23:09.10 | Vasistha | but instead I have spent... what is it, now... over 2 hours trying to fix this issue and I am still stuck |
| 23:09.38 | somiaj | ilya80: there is still a MAKEDEV script in /dev with udev though and you can configure udev device names and links in /etc/udev/ |
| 23:10.37 | ilya80 | somiaj: I`ll elaborate just a bit. /dev/sdc is a usb stick. I just had written debian-live hdd-usb disk image onto it using dd. |
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| 23:11.02 | somiaj | ilya80: so you wrote the image onto /dev/sdc not the first partition /dev/sdc1? |
| 23:11.45 | ilya80 | somiaj: yep exactly. i believe it might was right thing to do since .img contained image of whole disk and not a single partition |
| 23:12.06 | ilya80 | doh my grammar kills me |
| 23:12.10 | somiaj | ilya80: either should work, I've seen many usb drives not be partitioned at all |
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| 23:12.26 | somiaj | well usually usbsticks, the drivers not so much |
| 23:12.34 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: sorry had to rant a moment. anyway, in /var/log/auth.log I see gdm[3093]: pam_unix(gdm:session): session opened for user mark by (uid=0) |
| 23:12.59 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: followed by pam_ck_connector(gdm:session): nox11 mode, ignoring PAM_TTY :0 |
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| 23:13.45 | ilya80 | hmm |
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| 23:14.08 | ilya80 | i have a guess - i did not plug it out and back in after dd |
| 23:14.27 | ilya80 | and it had nothing before |
| 23:14.39 | somiaj | ilya80: I have no real expereince with the live image and booting...I do all my installs with debootstrap then just move the hd into the computer afterwards |
| 23:15.06 | somiaj | ilya80: did that fix all your issues? |
| 23:15.06 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: I think I figured it out: libpam-umask is not installed. wtf??? |
| 23:15.35 | ilya80 | somiaj: i`ll check it now. :) |
| 23:17.01 | somiaj | ilya80: there should be another way to refresh (reread the usbdrive) but I don't know, unpluging and pluging back in seems easy enough |
| 23:17.24 | ws2k3 | abrotman thanks |
| 23:17.34 | ilya80 | yeah. i knew it but forgot.. that why asking in first place |
| 23:17.36 | ws2k3 | but still the one system use more ram then the other |
| 23:17.48 | ilya80 | something like blkid but not that :P |
| 23:17.48 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: hmm, that's peculiar |
| 23:17.54 | ilya80 | nvm please |
| 23:18.02 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: and there is no installation candidate?? http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stable§ion=all&arch=i386&searchon=names&keywords=umask |
| 23:18.16 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: in libpam-modules |
| 23:18.35 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: ooh, just found a juicy one: gdm has a bug. http://bugs.debian.org/336214 |
| 23:18.44 | Vasistha | !umask |
| 23:18.44 | dpkg | The umask or user mask is the set of permissions which are *not* set on files and directories that are created with a default set of permissions. For example, a umask of 0022; would mean that files would be created with 644 permissions by default, directories with 755. help umask; or man 2 umask and info coreutils 'File Permissions'; for further details. (You may have to install manpages-dev if you don't have the umask manpage) |
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| 23:19.32 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: that's funny. gdm3 works for me :D |
| 23:19.57 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: heh. I guess it's funny for someone who didn't just lose 2 hours of work time :P |
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| 23:20.43 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: see message #10 which leads to the actual cause... well, it does sound quite logical that gdm is the culprit :D |
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| 23:21.39 | Vasistha | !umask example is a umask of 0022 would mean that files would be created with 644 permissions by default, and directories with 755. help umask; or man 2 umask and info coreutils 'File Permission'; for further details. (You may have to install manpages-dev if you don't have the umask manpage) |
| 23:21.39 | dpkg | Vasistha: okay |
| 23:21.53 | Vasistha | thewanderer1: message #10 ? |
| 23:22.29 | Vasistha | !literal umask |
| 23:22.30 | dpkg | "umask" is "<reply> The umask or user mask is the set of permissions which are *not* set on files and directories that are created with a default set of permissions. For example, a umask of 0022; would mean that files would be created with 644 permissions by default, directories with 755. help umask; or man 2 umask and info coreutils 'File Permissions'; for further details. (You may have to install manpages-dev if you don't have the umask manpage)" |
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| 23:23.09 | thewanderer1 | Vasistha: yeah, in the bug report... or don't bother at all and install gdm3 :D |
| 23:23.42 | Vasistha | !no, umask is <reply> The umask or user mask is the set of permissions which are *not* set on files and directories that are created with a default set of permission. Ask me about <umask example> or <change default umask> |
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| 23:27.04 | Vasistha | !change default umask is see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopHowTo -- in short: /etc/login.defs: UMASK 002; /etc/pam.d/common-session: session optional pam_umask.so umask=0002; and note gdm has a bug, so /etc/gdm/Xsession: umask 002 |
| 23:27.06 | dpkg | that doesn't look right |
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| 23:27.19 | Vasistha | !set default umask is see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopHowTo -- in short: /etc/login.defs: UMASK 002; /etc/pam.d/common-session: session optional pam_umask.so umask=0002; and note gdm has a bug, so /etc/gdm/Xsession: umask 002 |
| 23:27.19 | dpkg | okay, Vasistha |
| 23:27.27 | Vasistha | wait, is "set" a keyword? :P |
| 23:28.02 | Vasistha | ah, it worked, yay. god damn. |
| 23:28.30 | daemonkeeper | Vasistha: You should use /msg for such things |
| 23:28.59 | Vasistha | daemonkeeper: I often do, but sometimes it's nice to let others proof-read? |
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| 23:40.52 | ws2k3 | !tell ws2k3 free ram |
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| 23:41.20 | Vasistha | ws2k3: /msg dpkg free ram |
| 23:41.25 | ws2k3 | sorry |
| 23:41.32 | Vasistha | ws2k3: no prob you're learning |
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| 23:42.41 | ws2k3 | a human is allways learning :) |
| 23:42.45 | ws2k3 | but thanks didnt know this |
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