| 00:00.20 | Umeaboy | Just wondering...........has anybody here managed to build a package for Imprudence to use in DEbian? |
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| 00:00.25 | Umeaboy | Debian |
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| 00:01.39 | prodigel | hi all. I'm trying to run dwm in debian, but I get 'cannot open display' if running it from console after stoping gdm. Anyone using it? Documentation is scarce ... |
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| 00:02.05 | Umeaboy | I'll wait for an answer. |
| 00:02.15 | Mneumonic | Hi, I have a weird issue. About halfway through booting my laptop screen dims to 0 brightness and i have to manually use the Fn keys to raise brightness back up. I know I was able to fix this last time i reinstalled by having some command start at boot that put brightness at max but i dont remember what it is |
| 00:02.17 | Dewio | prodigel: well, it needs an x server |
| 00:02.18 | Umeaboy | goes to watch some TV. |
| 00:02.45 | Dewio | prodigel: are you sure you want to not run gdm? |
| 00:03.00 | prodigel | Dewio, not sure, just thought it's the way to do it |
| 00:03.24 | Dewio | !dwm |
| 00:03.25 | dpkg | [dwm] dynamic window manager, which manages windows in tiling and floating modes. http://dwm.suckless.org/ #suckless at irc.oftc.net. See also <window manager>. |
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| 00:04.57 | Dewio | prodigel: gdm can be used with non-gnome WMs and environments |
| 00:06.05 | Dewio | prodigel: it just handles the login screen, and keeping xorg running so that your WM/environment can display on it |
| 00:06.51 | prodigel | Dewio, I see... Thanks for the clearing. I'll read on how to configure gdm to use dwm then |
| 00:06.59 | abrotman | Mneumonic: xbacklight ? |
| 00:07.04 | Dewio | prodigel: unfortunately I don't really know if that or another one is best for use with dwm, or how to configure it |
| 00:07.29 | abrotman | Mneumonic: what is your video card? |
| 00:07.34 | Dewio | !gdm |
| 00:07.34 | dpkg | <GNOME> Display Manager (GDM) is a <display manager> based on <xdm>, but with no original xdm code. Written with looks (and security) in mind. It uses ~/.gnomerc instead of ~/.xsession. http://projects.gnome.org/gdm #gdm on irc.gimp.org. Not to be confused with the General Purpose Mouse (GPM) interface, see <gpm>. |
| 00:07.38 | abrotman | you can msg the bot |
| 00:07.49 | daedhel | prodigel: you could manually configure your xsession with ~/.xinitrc |
| 00:08.21 | prodigel | I just saw that :) |
| 00:08.29 | prodigel | daedhel, (that was for you) |
| 00:08.49 | Dewio | prodigel: http://wiki.debian.org/DisplayManager |
| 00:08.54 | daedhel | prodigel: but you would lose some benefits from GDM, such as policykit authentification and stuff like that, wich are a headache to setup in .xinitrc (imo) |
| 00:09.48 | daedhel | prodigel: best would be to use a session from another WM like LXDE or XFCE4 and modifiy is to start DWM instead of Openbox (for LXDE) or Xfwm4 (for xfce4) |
| 00:11.18 | prodigel | daedhel, I'll try that, even if I dont know what policykit auth. does, it sounds important ;) |
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| 00:11.47 | daedhel | prodigel: it is! it allows you to automount your drives and stuff like that |
| 00:12.34 | daedhel | prodigel: i'll be away for an hour, but I can help you later |
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| 00:13.03 | prodigel | daedhel, Thanks! I don't think I'll be around in an hour anymore |
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| 00:13.46 | daedhel | prodigel: hit the Archlinux wiki: http://wiki.archlinux.org |
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| 00:14.14 | daedhel | prodigel: keywords like X Session, DM, WM, dwm, policykit, etc. |
| 00:15.20 | buhman | what's going on here? |
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| 00:15.22 | buhman | http://paste.pound-python.org/show/12245/ |
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| 00:20.31 | abrotman | buhgrrr .. left |
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| 00:29.26 | buhman | hehe, forgot to edit screen.h |
| 00:30.47 | abrotman | edit? |
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| 00:32.07 | buhman | abrotman: yeah; because the debian packagers are too lazy to patch screen to support TERM's greater than 20 characters long |
| 00:33.02 | abrotman | buhman: did you file a bug? |
| 00:33.28 | buhman | abrotman: others have |
| 00:33.33 | abrotman | okay |
| 00:33.33 | buhman | abrotman: two bugs in the tracker |
| 00:33.41 | abrotman | buhman: have you submitted a patch ? |
| 00:33.44 | buhman | one with a valid patch |
| 00:33.48 | abrotman | okay |
| 00:33.50 | Oxy290 | How many have played with a fujitsu lifebook B series and successfully got the touchscreen to work. |
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| 00:36.30 | Lns | kernel.org is down? :/ |
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| 00:36.43 | abrotman | you tell us |
| 00:36.50 | Lns | it is for me! |
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| 00:37.13 | abrotman | it's a round robin |
| 00:37.13 | abrotman | lnssays down for maintenance |
| 00:37.16 | Lns | Oxy290, i used to have one of those |
| 00:37.18 | Oxy290 | It states very clearly it is down for maintenace |
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| 00:37.29 | abrotman | Lns: do you need something from there? it's mirrored everywhere |
| 00:37.38 | Oxy290 | Lns: Did you ever ght the touch screen to work and calibrated properly |
| 00:37.45 | Lns | well i'm getting an 'unable to connect' ...don't see anything else lol |
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| 00:38.01 | abrotman | that doesn't answer my question |
| 00:38.04 | Lns | Oxy290, afair you just configure it as a ps2 mouse |
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| 00:38.32 | Oxy290 | tried that, maybe I have a faulty TS |
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| 00:38.39 | Lns | abrotman, all my apt sources are from mirrors.kernel.org, and they're timing out |
| 00:39.03 | Lns | maybe their dns is out due to the recent hostilities heh |
| 00:39.13 | abrotman | Lns: change them to cdn.debian.net instead .. it'll find a mirror near you |
| 00:39.28 | Lns | hmm, thanks abrotman =) |
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| 00:42.28 | abrotman | Lns: working for you ? |
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| 00:43.22 | Lns | abrotman, yup |
| 00:43.27 | Oxy290 | anyone have any good SH scripts that make music out of the beep command? |
| 00:43.36 | Lns | <3 sed |
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| 00:48.29 | buhman | Oxy290: perhaps you should write a python script to create one for you |
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| 00:49.04 | buhman | resample wave audio into beep characters; should be relatively trivial and you'd need no more than just what's already in the standard library |
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| 00:52.45 | dud | hello dudes |
| 00:52.53 | dud | i got a dudism |
| 00:53.15 | dud | with multiple default gateways i just wnt to use one as backup gw, and very low metric |
| 00:53.49 | dud | how should i tell linux that it should use at 99% the default gw and then the backbone gw? |
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| 00:56.59 | spersaud | why does amd64 get stuck sometimes, ?? even when I do a simple clear its stuck |
| 00:57.09 | spersaud | I see its running flush a lot |
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| 00:58.44 | dud | because amd64 makes a lot of excrements, it isnt a risc cpu so it has to do a lot of flushs |
| 00:59.20 | grenddale | which is the video download program for debian? |
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| 00:59.41 | streuner | video download programm? |
| 00:59.57 | streuner | are you talking about youtube? |
| 01:00.12 | dud | lol |
| 01:00.19 | dud | i suggest sabnzbd |
| 01:00.19 | grenddale | more than that, one which is versatile. |
| 01:00.25 | dud | so you can download the entire usenet lol |
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| 01:00.42 | streuner | wget <internet>? |
| 01:00.55 | dud | wget /dev/urandom |
| 01:01.15 | grenddale | wget, have used it before. how about clive? |
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| 01:01.55 | dud | thats gonna be cool with my dreambox |
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| 01:02.40 | grenddale | dud, why do you find it so funny? don't u download video ? |
| 01:03.12 | streuner | pr0n? |
| 01:03.27 | dud | could u make a pipe with clive? |
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| 01:04.49 | grenddale | i am trying to download one of Michael Moore's movie. |
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| 01:05.09 | streuner | URL? |
| 01:05.18 | dud | those videos are to fat for any router |
| 01:06.04 | grenddale | streuner: i streamed it yesterday. will look up the URL again. wait. |
| 01:06.12 | dud | damnid if i run some command with ssh and & at the end it doesnt continue when i log of the machine |
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| 01:10.49 | grenddale | streuner: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/capitalism-love-story/ |
| 01:11.26 | LtL | dud: fire up a screen in your ssh session, then backgroung your job. ctrl^a^d to detach and logout, reattach upon login if I read you correctly. |
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| 01:15.50 | dud | ltl i am logged in via ssh from remote |
| 01:16.12 | dud | and i don't want to stay logged in but i want to continue running |
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| 01:18.37 | streuner | grenddale: How about to just buy it second hand, and after sell it after watching? |
| 01:18.40 | LtL | dud: so type 'screen' issue 'command &' it will run in te background of that particular screen, detach from it and logoff, it should continue. Then upon login 'screen -r' and your back to the running job, type jobs and you hould see it. |
| 01:19.00 | neil | I am using debain on a dreamplug... in what config file is the wifi setup normally? |
| 01:19.16 | streuner | grenddale: saves more headaches... |
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| 01:19.24 | grenddale | that would be extreme capitalism. :D |
| 01:20.03 | streuner | nah, extreme would be if you make casino ;-) |
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| 01:20.31 | grenddale | actually, my motive here is to look for a versatile video downloader. |
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| 01:20.58 | Blue1 | !sleep |
| 01:20.59 | dpkg | i guess sleep is for wimpy organic beings. Or, sleep is probably a poor substitute for coffee or for mortals or for the weak or the glory of the cowards and the un-caffeinateds. :-) or the activity of choice for the intelligent person or time which could be spent hacking the planet.. or .. whatever .. ZZzzzz ... fsck: warning: /dev/brain has gone countless hours without being checked. Check forced. zZZzzzz... *zonk* |
| 01:21.11 | streuner | in that URL, its possible to watcht that movie via flash |
| 01:21.20 | streuner | watch* |
| 01:21.52 | grenddale | i can watch it now. i want to save a copy of it. |
| 01:21.54 | lotus-blade | does debian support multiple core systems? if so how do I configure it to run a 6 core amd processor? |
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| 01:24.53 | neil | I am using debain on a dreamplug... in what config file is the wifi setup normally? |
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| 01:25.05 | neil_m | lotus-blade will just work out of the box tbh |
| 01:25.21 | gimpy1305 | lotus-blade: Debian supports multiple cores and you don't have to configure anything for it. some applications are not multi-threaded though that is not a Debian issue, it's an application issue. |
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| 01:25.38 | neil_m | lotus-blade my 1090T lists all cores |
| 01:25.44 | neil_m | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:25.49 | Blue1 | lotus-blade: yes, I have an amd quad core running - you will need the 64 bit version of debian |
| 01:26.07 | lotus-blade | that is what I run |
| 01:26.40 | lotus-blade | just wondering because I just ordered my new board and cpu |
| 01:26.45 | lotus-blade | thx |
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| 01:26.51 | neil_m | lotus-blade will work fine then |
| 01:27.39 | neil_m | unless they scam you and give you a n AMD duron |
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| 01:28.04 | lotus-blade | I just remember in the older linux versions having to do special tweakes to the kernel and having to custom build it |
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| 01:35.25 | L0C41H05T | hi i have a problem when trying to make install what ever programs |
| 01:35.28 | Vutral | someone knows if there is a universal package cache solution like apt-cacher |
| 01:35.36 | L0C41H05T | it keeps giving errors |
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| 01:36.15 | L0C41H05T | like this one http://pastebin.com/VzQjHPsj |
| 01:36.20 | streuner | L0C41H05T: please show us the whole command |
| 01:36.22 | streuner | oh |
| 01:37.00 | streuner | L0C41H05T: so its not in Debian? |
| 01:37.10 | L0C41H05T | it is Debian 6 |
| 01:37.39 | streuner | sure, but that package isnt in Debian? |
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| 01:37.57 | L0C41H05T | no |
| 01:38.03 | mike881991 | hi everybody i installed debian squeeze! |
| 01:38.25 | dvs | !beer mike881991 |
| 01:38.26 | dpkg | pulls out an exquisite Yuengling Lager for mike881991 |
| 01:38.28 | neil | I have a dreamplug with the wifi enabled... I want to change the configuration... but cant find where it is configured the interface uap0 isn't in /etc/network/interfaces file... where could the wifi setup be? |
| 01:38.30 | streuner | L0C41H05T: whats the name of the package, and do you have an URL? |
| 01:38.56 | L0C41H05T | http://www.denorastats.org/download/denora/1.4.5/ |
| 01:39.07 | L0C41H05T | its Denora Stats |
| 01:39.43 | mike881991 | but when i reboot the the pc i have to ifconfig eth0 ip adress 192.168.1.22 and route add default gw 192.168.1.1 |
| 01:39.51 | mike881991 | how can i save it? |
| 01:40.30 | streuner | L0C41H05T: just use there channel then - irc://irc.anope.org/denora |
| 01:40.57 | zykotick9 | mike881991, check /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:41.03 | streuner | dpkg, listkeys denora |
| 01:41.05 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'denora' by key returned no results. |
| 01:41.08 | streuner | hm |
| 01:41.31 | mike881991 | has anyone an idea? |
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| 01:42.54 | Driver | mike881991 check /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:43.19 | dvs | do you need a 3rd opinion? |
| 01:43.21 | Driver | or setup and configure network-manager |
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| 01:44.48 | mike881991 | checked it ... and my settings are inside |
| 01:45.10 | mike881991 | adress 192.168.1.55 |
| 01:45.25 | dvs | mike881991: paste your file in a pastebin. |
| 01:45.35 | abrotman | [put them in a pasteibin |
| 01:45.52 | dvs | abrotman: bad idea! ;-) |
| 01:45.55 | L0C41H05T | streuner: but its like that for any program though |
| 01:46.29 | streuner | L0C41H05T: nah, they should know better about HOW to compile within Debian... |
| 01:47.11 | Blue1 | if a computer is in sleep mode, is there a way to make a remote ssh connection wake it up> |
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| 01:48.08 | mike881991 | ok ... here are my network settings |
| 01:48.10 | mike881991 | http://pastebin.com/sy6i22C0 |
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| 01:48.29 | Lns | Blue1, maybe if you ssh into a different live computer on the same network and use wol |
| 01:48.38 | dvs | mike881991: address is spelt wrong |
| 01:49.49 | abrotman | spelled ? |
| 01:49.54 | mike881991 | i check it |
| 01:49.54 | Blue1 | Lns: what is wol? |
| 01:50.13 | dvs | spilt? |
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| 01:51.22 | mike881991 | WORKS! |
| 01:51.30 | ezflashback | THANKS!!!!! |
| 01:51.32 | dvs | !beer me |
| 01:51.32 | dpkg | pulls out a tasty Yuengling Lager for dvs |
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| 01:56.16 | Lns | Blue1, wake on lan? |
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| 01:56.39 | streuner | !wol |
| 01:56.39 | dpkg | [wol] Wake-on-LAN, a method of powering on a computer remotely through the use of a "magic" packet. See http://wiki.debian.org/WakeOnLan and http://gsd.di.uminho.pt/jpo/software/wakeonlan/mini-howto/ for more information. WoL utilities packaged for Debian: etherwake, wakeonlan. Online WOL services: http://stephan.mestrona.net/wol/ , http://www.rshut.com/products/wol/mobile |
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| 01:57.53 | Blue1 | Lns: ahh that;s a bios thing - I didn't know about -- maybe that's it have to reboot to check so brb |
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| 02:00.47 | neil | I am trying to find where this debian configures its wifi.. it isn't in /etc/network/interfaces ... where/who could it be doing it? |
| 02:01.30 | dvs | neil: a lot of people like wicd |
| 02:02.49 | neil | dvs, ok... so there doesn't appear to be a executable wicd |
| 02:03.01 | dvs | !wicd |
| 02:03.01 | dpkg | somebody said wicd was Wireless Interface Connection Daemon, a wired and <wireless connection manager>. A backported package is available for Lenny, ask me about <bdo>. See also <netdev>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wicd http://wicd.sf.net/ #wicd on irc.freenode.net. |
| 02:03.18 | dvs | that needs updating |
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| 02:04.16 | neil | dvs, is there an easy way to check if this is being used? |
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| 02:04.59 | dvs | neil: dpkg -l wicd |
| 02:05.46 | daedhel | hi, i'm on debian sid, I followed this wiki page, I have a nvidia card with the nouveau drivers, and plymouth is not working at boot. |
| 02:05.53 | daedhel | http://wiki.debian.org/plymouth |
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| 02:06.18 | neil | dvs, doesn't appear to be wicd ... not found. |
| 02:06.40 | ezflashback | how do i setup my serial console? |
| 02:06.51 | ezflashback | minicom doesnt work for some reason |
| 02:06.58 | ezflashback | do you have any idea? |
| 02:07.17 | neil | dvs, I have been hunting for quite some time for any hint on how the wifi is setup nothing matches so far. |
| 02:08.52 | dvs | neil: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 02:09.27 | ezflashback | everytime i try to run minicom -s it says ... error opening file /dev/modem |
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| 02:11.49 | karlpinc | ezflashback: There's I/O on the serial port if you've a serial console. You need a crossover cable and plug into _another serial port. 'screen' may be better than minicom. |
| 02:12.06 | karlpinc | ezflashback: You need to configure minicom to use another port. "man minicom" |
| 02:12.31 | karlpinc | ezflashback: And you need to be root to use -s, IIRC. |
| 02:13.15 | karlpinc | ezflashback: And you probably need to be a member of the dialout group if you run as a regular user, regardless of what you use. |
| 02:13.35 | ezflashback | i want to use it instead of the windows hyperterminal |
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| 02:14.06 | f00li5h | does /etc/init.d/networking restart kill ssh sessions now? |
| 02:14.15 | f00li5h | or has my shell frozen for another reason? |
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| 02:15.32 | teratorn | could anyone offer advise how to recover a broken system? *apprently* something went wrong as I was running debootstrap trying to create a debian unstable chroot... now no commands will run.. the shell just reports "file not found".. upon reboot 'init' will not run and the kernel panics... debootstrap was stuck on "extracting libc...", so I'm thinking somehow it screwed up the host environment |
| 02:15.42 | abrotman | karlpinc: not crosssover, null modem |
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| 02:16.02 | ezflashback | i want to connect my server with another one ... i have a 0 model cable |
| 02:16.28 | teratorn | any way to reinstall the correct libc package for my OS (squeeze), from a rescue CD environment? |
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| 02:16.46 | neil | dvs, I can't find any of the modules listed there in the output from lsmod. |
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| 02:20.41 | abrotman | teratorn: you can unpack it manually |
| 02:21.34 | teratorn | i guess I need to use something more advanced than the rescue mode on a debian CD - as that lacks dpkg |
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| 02:29.22 | somiaj | teratorn: do you recall the deboostrap command you were running. I don't see why that would fubar things so baddly. Until we can figure out what went wrong it might be hard to recover the system. |
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| 02:41.36 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 02:41.36 | dpkg | <try_catch_this> for the record I dont care what you use, to me I get things done faster with guis. |
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| 02:46.49 | wooter | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.59 | wooter | :| |
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| 02:54.06 | joebobjoe | How do I restart iptables in Debian 6? |
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| 02:57.10 | windparadise | hello all, pls what control panel tool is appropriate for debian? like cpanel for centos, ? |
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| 02:58.10 | abrotman | !free whcp |
| 02:58.11 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig>, <ispCP> Omega and <RavenCore>. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 03:01.14 | teratorn | somiaj: yes, the exact command was `debootstrap sid /sid-root http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/' |
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| 03:02.36 | teratorn | somia: it's just my assumption that this has something to do with it... a fubar'ed libc can result in this kind of 'file not found' error when trying to execute processes.. and libc was just what debootstrap was on when I noticed the system had stopped working |
| 03:02.44 | H3ruS | how i can to change the font size on tty |
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| 03:03.16 | teratorn | somiaj: and I wasn't doing anything else that can account for it |
| 03:03.34 | songer | hello people |
| 03:03.37 | abrotman | H3ruS: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ? |
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| 03:04.10 | songer | does enybody knows a software to meake invoice |
| 03:04.50 | f00li5h | does anyone know of a sensible way to configure dnsmasqd? |
| 03:05.02 | f00li5h | the default "helpful" config is full of comments that don't explain anything |
| 03:05.16 | f00li5h | they explain every option, but not what to do with them |
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| 03:06.28 | daedhel | hi, i'm on debian sid, I followed this wiki page, I have a nvidia card with the nouveau drivers, and plymouth is not working at boot. |
| 03:06.32 | daedhel | http://wiki.debian.org/plymouth |
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| 03:09.39 | H3ruS | abrotman: this is to keyboard |
| 03:09.39 | H3ruS | no tty |
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| 03:09.39 | joebobjoe | L |
| 03:09.39 | joebobjoe | jk |
| 03:10.23 | abrotman | H3ruS: huh? |
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| 03:19.20 | Cono256 | Is there a FOSS project out there that could use a decent GUI? Preferably something that newbies would use, and which either has no GUI or has a terrible user-unfriendly one. I've been getting some Qt experience at work and I'd like to contribute back to the community. |
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| 03:21.23 | abrotman | Cono256: there are many applications that use Qt that have bugs or could use help .. |
| 03:22.35 | Cono256 | abrotman: can you think of a couple off-hand |
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| 03:23.18 | Amarande | Cono, well, I can tell you what percentage of applications have bugs |
| 03:23.28 | abrotman | Cono256: bugs.debian.org would have tons ;) |
| 03:23.33 | Amarande | that would pretty much be 100%. |
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| 03:27.33 | Cono256 | Amarande: what would I be searching for? Looking for "qt" in the subject yields no results. |
| 03:28.23 | Amarande | Cono: Pick an open source project, there's a 99.9% chance that it has bugs and could use help. :) |
| 03:28.41 | Amarande | This is so because virtually every non-trivial application will have bugs. |
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| 03:36.09 | wolfe213 | how do I get the uuid of a partition? |
| 03:36.23 | wolfe213 | just created a new partition would like to enter it into fstab with UUID |
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| 03:41.57 | debiantonio | wolfe213, http://wiki.debian.org/Part-UUID |
| 03:42.02 | aidalgol | I just upgraded my system from squeeze to wheezy, and everything is working fine except for sound. |
| 03:42.12 | aidalgol | Where do I start troubleshooting? |
| 03:43.40 | simonlnu | get out your shotgun |
| 03:43.53 | Amarande | check your device settings and mixer/volume settings, first |
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| 03:44.16 | aidalgol | Uh, never mind. Some controls that did nothing before and were muted now affect the sound card. :P |
| 03:44.33 | aidalgol | Alsa got better support for my card, I guess. |
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| 03:47.31 | aidalgol | But since I've brought it up, why doesn't ALSA mute the speakers when I plug in headphones? |
| 03:47.31 | Amarande | aidalgol, that's usually your speakers' job |
| 03:47.32 | Amarande | at least, with the speakers I have, the speakers themselves mute themselves when I plug in headphones, it's not up to the computer to tell them to |
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| 03:47.32 | Amarande | and if the speakers don't have a headphone jack, presumably you have to unplug the speakers and plug the headphones into the out on the sound card/mobo |
| 03:47.32 | Dewi | aidalgol / Amarande : lots of soundcards support that, but it's far from universal so it will probably depend on alsa & the specific driver |
| 03:47.32 | debiantonio | lsmod |
| 03:47.32 | Amarande | of course, the speakers I have are Bose, so I'm not sure if cheap speakers are similarly well designed |
| 03:48.35 | aidalgol | Dewi: I just assumed my card didn't support it until I installed Windows (dual-boot, not over Debian!) for gaming and discovered that it did so. |
| 03:48.54 | debiantonio | lshw |
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| 03:49.35 | cardamon | Any good cli smtp/pop email clients out there? |
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| 03:49.59 | aidalgol | cardamon: mutt is the best I've tried. |
| 03:51.25 | Dewi | aidalgol: search for alsa "headphone detection" and your chipset/driver module |
| 03:51.43 | Dewi | aidalgol: it certainly supports it for some cards |
| 03:52.55 | aidalgol | Output of hwinfo --sound <http://paste.debian.net/128952/> |
| 03:53.07 | Amarande | I guess I just haven't, in a long time, seen a sound card where you actually plug in both headphones and speakers at the same time |
| 03:53.20 | Amarande | unless you're doing it via speakers that have a headphone jack on the speaker unit, rather than on the sound card |
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| 03:54.52 | aidalgol | Amarande: My box has a separate headphone jack on the front. I can only assume my sound card has a separate output, as well (given the aforementioned behaviour observed in Windows). |
| 03:55.14 | cardamon | aidalgol: pros? cons? |
| 03:56.08 | aidalgol | cardamon: Of what? |
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| 04:08.59 | Vutral | there is no package which depends on xinit |
| 04:09.03 | Vutral | funny squeeze |
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| 04:24.18 | windparadise | here is the specs 6 cores 4/5 GBRAM 200 GBHDD 2 TBBANDWITH 100 Mbps UPlink |
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| 04:35.26 | ProGenY | hi i am wondering how can i forward port 80 on one ip to the same ip but port 909 |
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| 04:43.49 | Vutral | mhm |
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| 04:54.01 | bambanx | anyone know how make more smooth the fonts on debian squeeze ? |
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| 05:13.44 | Oxy290 | What is a good IRC for beginers? |
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| 05:16.32 | Oxy290 | sure is quiet tonight |
| 05:16.34 | edwinsage | Oxy290: Do you mean a good channel, or a good client? |
| 05:16.48 | Oxy290 | oh, just channel, I'm using pidgin |
| 05:16.53 | phrantiq | you mean irc client? |
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| 05:18.06 | edwinsage | Oxy290: I guess it depends what you're interested in. I'm not terribly familiar with IRC, so I don't think I can make any good suggestions of specifically friendly channels. |
| 05:18.31 | cromag | 7j #chat |
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| 05:18.49 | cromag | no fun there |
| 05:19.04 | Oxy290 | This is the friendliest debian channel i can find. all the others everyone tends to think they are better than everyone else |
| 05:19.37 | edwinsage | Oxy290: Yeah, that's a side effect of the internet, I think. It really brings that side out in people. |
| 05:19.52 | edwinsage | Oh, internet. |
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| 05:20.47 | Oxy290 | I wouldn't say that, I would just say Computer Scientists in their own habitat has that effect on them |
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| 05:22.13 | Oxy290 | what is the parameter for uname to display kernal information (version #) |
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| 05:22.35 | Oxy290 | nvm got it. uname -a |
| 05:25.12 | Oxy290 | Let me run a scenario past you guys. 2 dell gx260's both w/ onboard NICs and one has a PCI expansion NIC. the one with the expansion runs debian with DHCP the other one has Ubuntu. If i run internet to onboard with debian and configure DHCP to serve out of the expansion NIC to the onboard Ubuntu NIC. will i need a patch cable, or will a standard CAT5e do? |
| 05:25.49 | edwinsage | Oxy290: Patch cable, I'm pretty sure. |
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| 05:26.07 | edwinsage | Router hardware is wired differently. |
| 05:26.36 | edwinsage | Though you might want to have someone else verify that. |
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| 05:27.39 | Oxy290 | Well the thing is that I have always belived that you would need a Patch in this situation, but i heard a rumor of some kind of "auto negotiating technology" in the debian package? IDK. wanted to see what yous guys think. |
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| 05:28.05 | edwinsage | I don't think it's an issue that software can address. |
| 05:28.37 | Oxy290 | my point exactally... pshh rumors.. |
| 05:28.43 | Oxy290 | Thanks guys! |
| 05:29.36 | Dewi | Oxy290: I got the feeling most newer hardware doesn't care |
| 05:29.44 | Dewi | Oxy290: and will autodetect |
| 05:30.00 | Dewi | Oxy290: I certainly haven't had to think about it in many years |
| 05:30.10 | Oxy290 | would a dell gx260 have this capability? or any idea, also, another wierd problem... "dpkg-reconfigure: command not found" |
| 05:30.26 | Dewi | Oxy290: you need to be root |
| 05:30.48 | Dewi | Oxy290: you should be able to tell whether the cable is working by looking at link-lights on the socket? |
| 05:31.19 | Oxy290 | Dewi: would this be before or after (or at any time) installing DHCP services |
| 05:31.37 | Dewi | Oxy290: at any time |
| 05:32.02 | Dewi | Oxy290: I think when you are unplugged it also says so in ifconfig? |
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| 05:34.08 | Oxy290 | Dewi: Thank you for your help, no patch needed, auto negotiating... |
| 05:34.11 | Dewi | Oxy290: can't remember what that looks like, sorry |
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| 05:46.57 | Oxy290 | While installing debian on a GX260 We are getting video errors. both on graphical install and on the regular install. suggestions? |
| 05:47.19 | Oxy290 | undefiend video code number: 314 |
| 05:48.02 | Oxy290 | Dewi: still here? |
| 05:49.45 | Oxy290 | nvm issue resolved 'graphical expert install' |
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| 06:00.24 | boudiccas | on logging into gmail this morning on iceweasel i got the following message ...... You are using an old version of Firefox that Gmail no longer supports. Some features may not work correctly..... are there any plans for upgrading iceweasel to get round this problem, or should i install fa more updated ?irefox |
| 06:00.58 | boudiccas | s /a/firefox |
| 06:01.58 | Dewi | boudiccas: are you running squeeze? |
| 06:02.18 | boudiccas | Dewi; yes |
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| 06:03.21 | Bushmills | ,versions iceweasel |
| 06:03.23 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-6; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-8~bpo50+1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-8; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-9; wheezy: 5.0-6; sid: 6.0.2-1; experimental: 7.0~b4-1 |
| 06:03.44 | Dewi | yeah there's no 3.6 backport |
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| 06:04.46 | Vutral | mhm |
| 06:04.48 | Dewi | boudiccas: normally I'd recommend asking the bot about ssd, but iceweasel isn't something I'd want to build myselfg |
| 06:04.56 | Dewi | boudiccas: er, ssb |
| 06:04.56 | Vutral | any suggestions on configuring nfsboot clients ? |
| 06:05.14 | Vutral | i would like to setup indivdual configs at bootup |
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| 06:05.19 | Vutral | but wonder what tool to use |
| 06:05.21 | Vutral | or if i should make something my own |
| 06:05.37 | Vutral | but then i need to hook it in very early in boot |
| 06:05.52 | Dewi | !tell boudiccas about mozilla.debian.net |
| 06:06.00 | Bushmills | Vutral: any local nonvolatilke space on client? |
| 06:06.11 | Vutral | diskless |
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| 06:06.34 | Dewi | boudiccas: you could use that, or just ignore it until proper backports are available |
| 06:06.39 | Vutral | they should make a folder on the nfs |
| 06:06.53 | Vutral | best would be if the server could divert to a unionfs |
| 06:06.55 | Vutral | well |
| 06:07.27 | Vutral | Bushmills, any idea ? |
| 06:07.59 | Bushmills | Vutral: i'd think of mount binding a client specific directory, maybe by client name or ip address, per client, and symliink the specific config files to the files where they are expected |
| 06:08.33 | Bushmills | that's be done for all boot clients - the non-specific ones would all symlink to the default config files |
| 06:08.41 | Vutral | it isnt done with symlinking |
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| 06:08.55 | Vutral | i need to run something to configure the stuff automatically |
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| 06:10.04 | kristian-aalborg | okay, so I messed up on partitioning somehow.... the partition won't mount |
| 06:10.17 | kristian-aalborg | I have a feeling I need to do something really simple |
| 06:10.47 | boudiccas | kristian-aalborg; what partition? you havent given us enough information for us to help you |
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| 06:10.57 | Dewi | kristian-aalborg: what filesystem is on there? |
| 06:11.17 | kristian-aalborg | boudiccas, my next question would be "what info do you need?" |
| 06:11.24 | kristian-aalborg | Dewi, should be ext3 |
| 06:11.37 | Dewi | kristian-aalborg: (you don't mount partitions, you mount filesystems which occupy partitions) |
| 06:12.08 | Dewi | kristian-aalborg: what is the mount command & error message? |
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| 06:13.46 | kristian-aalborg | sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt/music |
| 06:14.13 | icesword | lol |
| 06:14.17 | kristian-aalborg | EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock |
| 06:14.35 | imperium | hi, sorry for my bad english. i have lenovo b450 with ar2425 wifi card (module ath5k), running debian wheezy latest kernel. problem is, i cant get this wifi works, rfkill list always shows Hard blocked: yes. i am sure i turned on the hardware switch and enabled the wifi on bios. could someone give me hints what to do? |
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| 06:15.35 | icesword | kri, do you use vm? |
| 06:15.50 | Dewi | kristian-aalborg: so did you create a filesystem there? |
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| 07:42.48 | Oxy2901 | what configuration file to i set the network interface that the DHCP server listens on when started? (isc dhcp3 server) |
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| 07:43.20 | simonlnu | look in /etc/default ... |
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| 07:45.07 | manan | i have downloaded and installed debian 6 netinst image WITHOUT INTERNET CONNECTION. it have iinstalled and a command shell is in front. i want to install xfce desktop on my debian base... |
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| 07:48.01 | manan | i have downloaded and installed debian 6 netinst image WITHOUT INTERNET CONNECTION. it have iinstalled and a command shell is in front. i want to install xfce desktop on my debian base... |
| 07:48.06 | manan | please somebody help me... |
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| 07:49.34 | simonlnu | so install xorg and xfce4 |
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| 07:52.00 | simonlnu | don't /msg me without asking |
| 07:52.20 | manan | ok sorry |
| 07:52.34 | manan | may i send you a msg? |
| 07:53.09 | simonlnu | no. say it here. there's no need to /msg people for support. it's not it's private |
| 07:53.17 | simonlnu | it's not like * |
| 07:53.33 | simonlnu | !install |
| 07:53.34 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <various cd1>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 07:53.37 | manan | ok. |
| 07:53.41 | simonlnu | !install stuff |
| 07:54.12 | fasta | What is acceptable input to a2ensite? The manpage doesn't tell me. |
| 07:54.26 | simonlnu | !install x |
| 07:54.27 | dpkg | To install X in Debian Lenny and later releases: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To configure your X server, ask me about <xorg config>. |
| 07:54.31 | fasta | It only says 'site', but where does it match this 'site' exactly? |
| 07:54.45 | simonlnu | fasta: type the command itself, you'll see |
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| 07:55.04 | simonlnu | in /etc/apache2/sites-available ... |
| 07:55.05 | fasta | simonlnu: that's much easier :) |
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| 07:55.19 | simonlnu | manan: ^^^ <install x> |
| 07:55.26 | Oxy2901 | ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1. (How do i set eth1 to a specific hardware address |
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| 07:57.18 | somiaj | Oxy2901: have you set it up in /etc/network/interfaces do you want to set it up as an alais, or just configure eth1 |
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| 07:57.43 | somiaj | Oxy2901: if you have eth1 configured, it just ifup eth1 (not eth1=eth1 you use this if you want somthing like eth1=alais and you configure different aliases) |
| 07:57.57 | Oxy2901 | just configure eth1 |
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| 07:58.30 | Oxy2901 | somiaj: Thank you for your help |
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| 07:59.18 | somiaj | Oxy2901: yer welcome |
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| 08:04.30 | daniel-s | hello |
| 08:04.41 | daniel-s | I am having a problem updating iceweason on squeeze |
| 08:04.51 | daniel-s | I've added the mozilla repositories |
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| 08:05.08 | daniel-s | when trying to update, it holds iceweasel back because of unmet dependencies |
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| 08:10.41 | daniel-s | http://pastebin.com/fVJJb1t4 |
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| 08:11.47 | asdjaputra | daniel-s, what is that? |
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| 08:12.27 | daniel-s | the pastebin relates to my problem just above |
| 08:12.36 | daniel-s | when I try to apt-get upgrade, that's the output |
| 08:12.42 | daniel-s | it's not upgrading iceweasel |
| 08:13.18 | daniel-s | this is the line in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 08:13.18 | daniel-s | deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-beta |
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| 08:15.06 | jk_ | daniel-s: try apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 08:18.27 | Oxy2901 | how do i get eth1 to start automatically with the system... -_- |
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| 08:19.38 | asdjaputra | Oxy2901, place a script in startup applications |
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| 08:19.46 | asdjaputra | sudo ifconfig eth1 up |
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| 08:22.09 | daniel-s | !dist-upgrade |
| 08:22.10 | dpkg | dist-upgrade tells apt to also install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages). Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; in lenny, aptitude calls dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. See also <why not dist-upgrade> <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze> <full-upgrade>. |
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| 08:23.03 | daniel-s | !why not dist-upgrade |
| 08:23.03 | dpkg | If you're going to use apt-get dist-upgrade (or aptitude full-upgrade), when you run the command, you need to make absolutely sure that it isn't going to remove anything you actually want to have installed. If it does, use apt-get install to install specific packages that have been held back on apt-get upgrade, and only allow upgrades that don't remove things that you want. Ask me about <pinning> <hold> <unmarkauto>. |
| 08:24.14 | daniel-s | yk: that helps, it chooses to install all the packages that are being held back *except* for iceweasel itself :( |
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| 08:24.22 | daniel-s | I'll give it a go anyway, see what happens |
| 08:25.29 | yk | daniel-s: ok, i hope that helps |
| 08:25.57 | Oxy2901 | want to serve internet coming in from eth0 out to the rest of the network on eth1 |
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| 08:26.38 | Oxy2901 | tcp ipv4 someodd forward? i know there is a configuration to turn this to true |
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| 08:27.27 | ||__\\\ | The requested URL /changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.32-35squeeze1/changelog was not found on this server. |
| 08:27.30 | ||__\\\ | =( |
| 08:28.21 | asdjaputra | what is the problem about ||__\\\ ? |
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| 08:29.38 | asdjaputra | i meant, ||__\\\ what is the problem? |
| 08:29.48 | Minkben | What should I do if I want /var/www to be owned by both www-data and another user? |
| 08:30.10 | somiaj | Oxy2901: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
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| 08:34.30 | yk | Minkben: set them into one group |
| 08:34.46 | Minkben | yk, how do I add an user to a group? |
| 08:34.59 | sep | adduser user group |
| 08:35.10 | asdjaputra | usermod |
| 08:35.15 | fasta | How can I give access to user X to directory /home/blah/deep/directory/here without giving access to /home/blah? |
| 08:35.15 | sep | need to log out and back in also |
| 08:35.35 | somiaj | fasta: chown / chmod (set permisions) |
| 08:36.05 | somiaj | fasta: though might not want to let other users get that group, and just put everything in /home/<new dir> |
| 08:36.07 | fasta | somiaj: AFAIK, you also need permissions on the parent directories... |
| 08:36.26 | fasta | somiaj: are you sure that you don't need permissions on the parent directories? |
| 08:36.27 | somiaj | fasta: you just neex the 'x' permisions, you don't have to be able to read or write to anything except the directory chain |
| 08:36.41 | fasta | somiaj: ok. |
| 08:37.00 | somiaj | fasta: though I'd just put that /some/deep/dir someone else |
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| 08:37.09 | somiaj | somewhere else |
| 08:37.22 | ||__\\\ | asdjaputra: I wanted to see changelogs for the kernel, but I guess this was what I was looking for http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-latest-2.6/linux-latest-2.6_29/changelog |
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| 08:37.35 | ||__\\\ | (kernel package I mean) |
| 08:37.48 | asdjaputra | ||__\\\, you can always download the main log in kernel.org |
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| 08:38.20 | ||__\\\ | asdjaputra: well, not atm :D |
| 08:38.27 | somiaj | debian kernels will have their own changelogs attached for all the patches as well. |
| 08:38.40 | ||__\\\ | but I was looking for the debian changelog anyways |
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| 08:42.13 | fasta | Why is the www-data user not listed in some Gnome user management application? |
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| 08:42.44 | fasta | I.e., apache runs as www-data, but that should mean there exists a user for it, right? |
| 08:43.50 | dokma | I'm thinking of how to install ISPConfig on my dedicated Debian box that already has a ton of manually configured web sites on it. Does anyone have experience with installing ISPConfig on a production machine? I was thinking that my other option was to install Debian from scratch to an VirtualBox machine, configure everything and then copy the sites to that VirtualBox machine. Is this possible? |
| 08:44.21 | somiaj | fasta: grep www-data /etc/passwd |
| 08:45.16 | fasta | somiaj: it is listed there. |
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| 08:45.45 | somiaj | fasta: then the user exists, not sure why gnome app X doesn't show it. maybe it hides non login users such as that one. |
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| 08:46.12 | fasta | somiaj: is there some application which does allow 'real' management? |
| 08:46.18 | somiaj | fasta: are you trying to let apache2 see $HOME/public_html |
| 08:46.25 | niklaswe | hmm when i trying to get my ssh-key from ldapsearch it breaking it with newline.. |
| 08:46.37 | fasta | somiaj: I don't like to read a manpage every single time I want to change some permissions. |
| 08:46.37 | somiaj | fasta: I do it from things like adduser and grep |
| 08:47.10 | somiaj | fasta: chown user.group file list |
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| 08:48.52 | fasta | somiaj: don't you mean :? |
| 08:50.10 | somiaj | fasta: I use ., not sure if would also accept : |
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| 08:52.16 | bint | if i rent a dedicated server with debian lenny or squeeze on it.. no php and stuff just a plain os.. and i always upgrade and update it.. will it be vrunable or is it moreless secure then? |
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| 08:53.08 | asdjaputra | bint, do you use any firewall |
| 08:53.15 | bint | just hardware |
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| 08:53.21 | asdjaputra | bint, you should, even without php and stuff |
| 08:53.29 | bint | a softwarefireall? |
| 08:53.56 | asdjaputra | bint, restrict outoing operations rather than port 80 |
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| 08:54.06 | asdjaputra | and block all incoming ports |
| 08:54.28 | asdjaputra | wait, block all except 80 and 22 (for SSH) sorry |
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| 08:55.30 | sephii | and install fail2ban or implement some port-knocking for ssh, it's quite effective |
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| 08:56.25 | asdjaputra | snort |
| 08:56.41 | asdjaputra | wait a sec i'm searching my firewall config, the ones i said ^ may be wrong |
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| 08:57.47 | aidalgol | I haven't enlarged my swap partition since adding 2GB of RAM to my box. It's still only 1.91G. Is it actually necessary to enlarge the swap space when adding physical memory? |
| 08:57.53 | asdjaputra | i'm using shorewall as firewall and snort |
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| 08:58.25 | asdjaputra | IMO, you won't need swap |
| 08:58.52 | asdjaputra | unless you run all the hardcore memory drainer programs at once |
| 08:58.57 | asdjaputra | games, office, etc. |
| 08:59.10 | somiaj | aidalgol: if you ever use hibernate to swap you need enough to hold all your ram. But no its not a requirement. |
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| 09:15.34 | Sweetshark | !seen _rene_ |
| 09:15.34 | dpkg | Sweetshark: i haven't seen '_rene_' |
| 09:15.45 | Sweetshark | hmm |
| 09:15.56 | asdjaputra | !seen asdjaputra |
| 09:15.57 | dpkg | asdjaputra is currently on #debian (1h 9m 48s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '!seen asdjaputra'. |
| 09:17.26 | streuner | Sweetshark: why do you need him? |
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| 09:18.42 | Sweetshark | streuner: found a ftbfs in ubuntu that is most likely there on debian too. |
| 09:18.56 | streuner | Sweetshark: /j #debian-oo in OFTC |
| 09:20.20 | streuner | #debian-oo 6 LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org legacy packaging channel | OOo 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze2 in stable (squeeze) | OOo 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny8 in oldstable (lenny) (in 5.0.8); -lenny11 in oldstable-security | LibO 3.3.1-1 in unstable and testing | OOo 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze2~bpo50+1 in lenny-backports |
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| 09:22.30 | sephii | I'm having some bothersome behaviour with my mail server. I've got amavisd which filters the mails but I constantly get "BANNED contents" mail forwarded to postmaster. I tried to D_DISCARD banned destiny and virus destiny mails but I keep receiving them |
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| 09:23.50 | sephii | (also I've got several .dpkg-dist configuration files, do they get interpreted or not?) |
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| 09:24.37 | Sweetshark | streuner: no _rene_ there too. Anyway, I will just fix on ubuntu and ping _rene_ about it then. |
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| 09:25.51 | streuner | Sweetshark: http://db.debian.org/search.cgi |
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| 09:26.27 | niklaswe | any ide how i should do to get out my ssh-key right from ldap.. so ldapserch doesnt break it with newline |
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| 09:27.39 | Oxy2901 | Data from the internet is incomeing from eth0, auto neg. no special configuration. eth1 goes to another computer. Using DHCP server with subnet set with option routers, range, and allow unknown-clients, etc/default/dhcp interfaces=eth1, unable to get IP from DHCP server |
| 09:27.40 | asdjaputra | olspookishmagus, it's for DDs i guess |
| 09:27.50 | streuner | olspookishmagus: OFTC |
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| 09:27.58 | asdjaputra | irc.oftc.net |
| 09:28.01 | Oxy2901 | tl;dr? eth0 in eth1 out, eth0 works like a charm. eth1 will not connect |
| 09:28.16 | streuner | or irc.debian.org |
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| 09:29.39 | Oxy2901 | any ideas? |
| 09:30.33 | asdjaputra | irc.debian.org have less community than in freenode |
| 09:31.26 | dwfreed | asdjaputra: irc.debian.org is just OFTC |
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| 09:31.40 | asdjaputra | dwfreed, and it has less people than in here |
| 09:32.15 | dwfreed | Mostly because OFTC isn't as well-known as Freenode |
| 09:32.27 | Oxy2901 | interwebs -> DHCP server (ALL IS GOOD) DHCP server -> Client (Unable to connect to the network) |
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| 09:36.22 | Oxy2901 | nobody here is able to help me with this? |
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| 09:36.43 | Vutral | aaaaaaaa |
| 09:36.46 | Vutral | now nfs4 works |
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| 09:38.14 | petemc | Oxy2901: do you see a dhcp request from the client in /var/log/messages ? |
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| 09:38.39 | Oxy2901 | dhcp client is a windows vista machine |
| 09:38.43 | petemc | and? |
| 09:38.45 | Oxy2901 | or do you mean on the server |
| 09:38.51 | petemc | i mean the server |
| 09:39.05 | petemc | Sep 9 10:41:38 mail dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.0.11.107 from a4:ba:db:95:0b:76 via eth1 |
| 09:39.10 | petemc | would look like that |
| 09:39.56 | petemc | will be in syslog and messages |
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| 09:40.34 | Oxy2901 | any quick way to grep the file for this? |
| 09:41.17 | petemc | you answered your own question.. |
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| 09:41.44 | Oxy2901 | /var/log/messages | grep dhcp ? |
| 09:41.57 | Oxy2901 | im a little new to the whole bash thing |
| 09:41.58 | petemc | other way round |
| 09:42.12 | petemc | grep dhcp /var/log/messages |
| 09:42.14 | Oxy2901 | grep dhcp | /var/log/messages ? are you serious? |
| 09:42.17 | Oxy2901 | no | |
| 09:43.50 | Oxy2901 | no requests have been made in the log files |
| 09:44.00 | Oxy2901 | dhcp server is started though |
| 09:44.27 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.32 | petemc | as root |
| 09:45.11 | Oxy2901 | nothing but 0.0.0.0 |
| 09:45.27 | petemc | thats as it should be |
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| 09:46.25 | petemc | tail -f /var/log/syslog , watch that file and run /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server restart |
| 09:46.34 | petemc | assuming you're using isc dhcpd |
| 09:46.39 | Oxy2901 | yes i am |
| 09:49.23 | asdjaputra | there's no place like 127.0.0.1 -- Geeks |
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| 09:51.12 | daemonkeeper | Ask Black_Prince. He will tell you in 127.0.0.1 no one will hear you scream. |
| 09:51.34 | Oxy2901 | erm... not good.... SDA ERROR: Read only filesystem. panic? |
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| 09:51.48 | Black_Prince | s/127.0.0.1/'/dev/null'/ |
| 09:51.50 | Oxy2901 | think i know my DHCP problem now! |
| 09:51.53 | asdjaputra | :D |
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| 09:52.30 | nsadmin | sda error is not dhcp problem... |
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| 09:52.47 | Oxy2901 | lol it is when your errors force your system into Read Only! even as root! xD |
| 09:53.04 | Oxy2901 | Hard Drive just failed oh joy! =D |
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| 09:53.59 | nsadmin | perhaps the hd failing caused a multitude of issues including dhcp config problems |
| 09:54.17 | Oxy2901 | yes I would suppose so |
| 09:54.25 | Oxy2901 | !winbind |
| 09:54.54 | Oxy2901 | lol'd |
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| 09:55.01 | Black_Prince | !lol |
| 09:55.02 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 09:55.43 | nsadmin | and we all know aol users look really weird... |
| 09:56.44 | Oxy2901 | -bash: shutdown: command not found |
| 09:56.57 | daemonkeeper | su |
| 09:56.59 | Black_Prince | As normal user it's not |
| 09:57.01 | daemonkeeper | password: |
| 09:57.39 | mosno | i'd say "lol" has moved well past AOL territory |
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| 09:57.54 | Black_Prince | su -c 'mv daemonkeeper /tmp && shutdown -h now' |
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| 09:58.07 | daemonkeeper | is not using tmpfs |
| 09:58.18 | Black_Prince | It gets clean anyways ... |
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| 09:58.25 | daemonkeeper | Not on my system :p |
| 09:58.36 | daemonkeeper | I _always_ forget cruft I left there accidentally. |
| 09:58.36 | Black_Prince | Damn :/ |
| 09:58.46 | daemonkeeper | So I tweaked the init system not to clean it. |
| 09:59.31 | Black_Prince | Nice. /run shall be my next target :P |
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| 10:02.43 | sylar_ | what do I write to dpkg so he'd tell me how to upgrade to squeeze? |
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| 10:03.13 | petemc | sylar_: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 10:03.32 | sylar_ | k, thanks |
| 10:03.56 | Black_Prince | dpkg, k |
| 10:03.56 | dpkg | It's OK. OK stands for Zero Killed. If you keep on saying k, there won't be zero killed for much longer. |
| 10:03.57 | Black_Prince | :P |
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| 10:04.50 | nsadmin | Oxy2901, if you're sure the hd failed, just replace it, and either restore from backup or reinstall from scratch |
| 10:04.54 | sephii | I've got an entry in my fstab for a usb harddrive but it never gets mounted. However if I do a mount -a, it gets mounted. Any idea? |
| 10:05.07 | t0ni | how do i add something to start when debian starts up? |
| 10:06.02 | nsadmin | sephii, probably, at the time the system boot process runs mount -a something's missing at that time, maybe a driver |
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| 10:10.49 | smw | Which CDs are actually needed for installing? There are over 30GB of them! |
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| 10:11.06 | smw | Does it have the entire debian repo or something? |
| 10:11.10 | smw | lol |
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| 10:11.35 | t0ni | jus get net install |
| 10:11.37 | smw | It is too small to be all packages and too big to be a selection |
| 10:11.53 | smw | t0ni, Is that the easiest way? |
| 10:11.59 | t0ni | yip |
| 10:12.15 | nsadmin | smw, depends on your situatoin |
| 10:12.20 | sephii | nsadmin: the partition is an ext4 one, just like the partitions of the internal hard drive |
| 10:12.37 | smw | t0ni, seriously, why a 30GB selection? lol |
| 10:12.41 | t0ni | then u choose the stuf uwant |
| 10:12.57 | nsadmin | smw: |
| 10:13.00 | nsadmin | !ig |
| 10:13.00 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 10:13.42 | t0ni | how do i add something to start when debian starts up? |
| 10:14.01 | smw | t0ni, is it an init script? |
| 10:14.14 | t0ni | i dont know |
| 10:14.30 | smw | t0ni, what is it you want to start on boot? |
| 10:14.36 | t0ni | yes |
| 10:14.49 | t0ni | kteatime |
| 10:14.57 | smw | t0ni, I like sys-rc-conf |
| 10:15.18 | t0ni | with LXDE |
| 10:15.20 | smw | it is a ncurses program that I think is written in perl |
| 10:15.51 | smw | I can't fine a netinstall cd |
| 10:16.09 | smw | I am going to assume cd1 does netinstall as an option |
| 10:16.27 | t0ni | live cd? |
| 10:16.37 | smw | oh |
| 10:16.38 | smw | lol |
| 10:16.48 | t0ni | there wasnt one? |
| 10:17.09 | smw | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 10:17.32 | smw | I want to finally try a debian desktop |
| 10:17.37 | t0ni | i have the amd 4400 |
| 10:17.44 | smw | ubuntu ticked me off for the last time |
| 10:17.50 | t0ni | dual core |
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| 10:18.29 | t0ni | i had kubuntu an it just disappeared 1 day |
| 10:18.58 | petern_ | you can't find a netinstall? |
| 10:19.01 | petern_ | it's pretty easy to find |
| 10:19.21 | petern_ | it's on the front page of www.debian.org |
| 10:19.24 | nsadmin | utiktu? |
| 10:19.26 | petern_ | "Network Install" |
| 10:19.38 | t0ni | i install it offa usb stick |
| 10:19.52 | smw | also, would you recommend testing for a desktop? |
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| 10:21.07 | petern_ | i'd start with stable |
| 10:21.33 | smw | petern_, I have alot of experience with ubuntu and centos. |
| 10:21.57 | smw | petemc, I am not new to linux or much of debian (yes, I know ubuntu is not debian) |
| 10:22.16 | sylar_ | :S |
| 10:22.16 | smw | petern_, * |
| 10:22.18 | sylar_ | supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Debian release: 5.0.5 |
| 10:22.47 | smw | http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst No testing links :-\ |
| 10:23.12 | ||__\\\ | if i'd _really_ wanted to run testing on something i'd run lmde, otherwise, if i need packages from testing, i just add the testing repo and pin it down and perhaps pin special packages up |
| 10:23.16 | nsadmin | why testing? |
| 10:23.23 | smw | petern_, assuming you knew what you were doing, would you go with testing for a desktop? |
| 10:23.35 | smw | nsadmin, I like having the newest stuff :-) |
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| 10:23.41 | petern_ | only if i found something i really needed from testing |
| 10:23.43 | nsadmin | testing is still a moving target |
| 10:23.59 | petern_ | i do know what i'm doing, and my desktop systems run stable ;) |
| 10:24.15 | smw | petern_, that is my question :-) |
| 10:24.21 | petern_ | (although i do self-compile the audio-tools i use) |
| 10:24.39 | smw | just in case I want to later, can I just change repos and do some sort of dist upgrade? |
| 10:24.44 | ||__\\\ | smw: if you're into bleeding edge, perhaps debian is not the right choice.. |
| 10:24.59 | smw | ||__\\\, you have a better idea? |
| 10:25.15 | nsadmin | linux frm scratch? |
| 10:25.24 | smw | ||__\\\, ubuntu's bleeding edge has cut me for no good reason too many times.. |
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| 10:25.50 | nsadmin | in what way? |
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| 10:26.02 | smw | nsadmin, unity for one :-P |
| 10:26.19 | petern_ | smw, yes, it's simple to upgrade |
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| 10:26.35 | smw | pulseaudio was a nightmare when it originally came out... |
| 10:26.48 | bambanx | guys after a lot of work on my debian i have in the best point i wish , exist any form to do a image of all my system ? |
| 10:26.49 | ||__\\\ | smw: heh, (hope i don't start a flame war now ;) i run archlinux on my laptop, but i'd also look at lmde, wouldn't run neither on a server though |
| 10:27.07 | smw | ||__\\\, looking only at desktops. |
| 10:27.24 | smw | ||__\\\, I use centos for servers |
| 10:27.35 | ||__\\\ | smw: is it for you own machine or for all the workstations at a company/organisation? |
| 10:27.37 | Oxy290 | Okay, DHCP functional, eth0 is on the internet, eth1 is on the network. how do i have DHCP clients connected to eth1 communicate with the network (internet) comeing in on eth0 (/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding has been changed to 1 (allow) |
| 10:27.47 | smw | ||__\\\, my own machine |
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| 10:27.59 | Oxy290 | would it be an IP table? and if so what would the command look like? |
| 10:28.33 | ||__\\\ | smw: but if you want it to be debian based and bleeding edge, have a look at http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1604 |
| 10:28.35 | smw | ||__\\\, I am a sysadmin who wants a good OS for his laptop :-) |
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| 10:28.57 | smw | ||__\\\, I saw that but though why not just get the real thing? lol |
| 10:29.55 | ||__\\\ | smw: well, because "the real thing", in this case i guess testing, is a "moving target", as someone said, and it could break whenever, because it's not stable |
| 10:29.58 | ||__\\\ | now: lunch |
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| 10:30.57 | sephii | could anybody help me configuring automount? I've been trying to use it since several months but I still can't get anything to work |
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| 10:31.37 | smw | ||__\\\, now to start a real flame war I need to choose gnome vs kde :-P |
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| 10:31.51 | t0ni | LXDE |
| 10:31.58 | t0ni | :) |
| 10:31.59 | sephii | awesome |
| 10:32.13 | smw | t0ni, hell no |
| 10:32.20 | Oxy290 | how to ifup on an ethernet controller (eth2) and make it permanant (automatically bring up the controller on startup) |
| 10:32.25 | t0ni | why? |
| 10:32.34 | smw | t0ni, I used archlinux for some time with lxde. Eventually I got tired of stuff not just working :-P. |
| 10:32.50 | petemc | Oxy290: in /etc/network/interfaces there is a line beginning 'auto' , append eth2 to that |
| 10:33.01 | t0ni | okay |
| 10:33.31 | smw | t0ni, want to read a pdf? Find and install the program. I can do that I guess. But the fact that I could not get chrome to use that pdf reader ticked me off. |
| 10:33.32 | smw | lol |
| 10:33.44 | smw | t0ni, I think I did not give arch a fair chance using lxde |
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| 10:33.49 | Oxy290 | petemc, the line ready 'auto lo' eth0 is not included but starts up automatically. what gives? |
| 10:33.53 | smw | I stuck with it for 6 months though |
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| 10:34.11 | petemc | Oxy290: you're sure there isnt another auto line for eth0 ? |
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| 10:34.24 | smw | t0ni, but after half a year... I just decided it was not worth the continuous time investment and paper cuts |
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| 10:34.55 | smw | t0ni, but the speed and simplicity was amazing. I still use claws and the other quick programs I found through using lxde |
| 10:34.58 | t0ni | it starts up Document Viewer |
| 10:35.02 | Oxy290 | petemc 'allow-hotplug eth0' and 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' are the only lines |
| 10:35.21 | Oxy290 | for eth0 that is* |
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| 10:35.29 | ethanol | I run upgrade and I get; |
| 10:35.37 | ethanol | dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable. |
| 10:35.38 | ethanol | dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable. |
| 10:35.38 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, ethanol |
| 10:35.39 | ethanol | :< |
| 10:35.43 | smw | t0ni, then again, I am thinking about lxde again... lol |
| 10:36.08 | t0ni | i like xfce too |
| 10:36.09 | nsadmin | ethanol, running that as root? |
| 10:36.15 | ethanol | using sudo |
| 10:36.23 | Krabbe | are they flagged as executable anyways? :D |
| 10:36.24 | smw | t0ni, I don't remember why I did not like xfce |
| 10:36.31 | ethanol | rob@nowcast:~$ sudo echo $PATH |
| 10:36.31 | ethanol | /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
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| 10:36.50 | ethanol | hrm no sbin there :< |
| 10:36.53 | nsadmin | something is weird with sudo... try su -, root passwd, then run the thing |
| 10:36.55 | smw | t0ni, maybe it was because the default theme hurt my eyes. Or something about double clicks... lol |
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| 10:37.02 | ethanol | ah |
| 10:37.06 | ethanol | seems I really have to su to root |
| 10:37.09 | ethanol | my bad |
| 10:37.23 | nsadmin | due caution, since you'd have a root shell |
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| 10:37.35 | t0ni | or fluxbox |
| 10:37.39 | ethanol | it's just apt-get upgrade |
| 10:37.39 | ethanol | :> |
| 10:37.42 | ethanol | runs fine now |
| 10:37.54 | smw | t0ni, lxde beats fluxbox in my book :-P |
| 10:38.00 | smw | openbox! |
| 10:38.01 | smw | lol |
| 10:38.03 | Oxy290 | eth1 uninstalled, how to rename eth2 to eth1 properly? |
| 10:38.08 | t0ni | i try all the window managers :P |
| 10:38.16 | nsadmin | cool, don't run anything else for now :) especially avoid rm, chmod, chown |
| 10:38.16 | smw | t0ni, so have I |
| 10:38.34 | smw | t0ni, in case it is not obvious, I have tried them all. I used to be a kde guy |
| 10:38.44 | smw | t0ni, at this point I am a gnome guy |
| 10:39.00 | t0ni | too much gobblygook in kde |
| 10:39.03 | nsadmin | a gnome? or a guy? |
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| 10:39.22 | petemc | Oxy290: /msg dpkg z70 |
| 10:39.32 | smw | t0ni, openbox: lxde without the bloat |
| 10:39.34 | siefca | anyone successfully used pam_ldap to change password on debian? |
| 10:39.35 | sylar_ | what can I do so installation don't stop to ask question? |
| 10:39.50 | sylar_ | i mean upgrade |
| 10:39.57 | ethanol | sylar_, apt-get --help |
| 10:40.02 | sylar_ | i mean that it would continue and ask later |
| 10:40.14 | ethanol | ask what? |
| 10:40.21 | Oxy290 | nu huh petemc, i dont like dpkg any more after /msg dpkg winbind |
| 10:40.22 | Oxy290 | haha |
| 10:40.51 | sylar_ | ethanol, stuff like the config file was modify keep the old, or overite it? |
| 10:40.51 | ethanol | sylar_, there is the -y switch |
| 10:41.05 | ethanol | sylar_, which assumes 'yes' to all questions |
| 10:41.20 | ethanol | so in the case of config files, it will keep the old ones |
| 10:41.22 | t0ni | weeerd the 19 monitor is only a inch taller than my 14 incher |
| 10:41.24 | sylar_ | ethanol, I want to think about the question, but I don't want to sit at the screen, or it stop |
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| 10:41.41 | ethanol | sylar_, then no, there is nothing you can do to do that |
| 10:41.44 | smw | t0ni, want to know when I became a gnome guy? KDE with it's constant crashing (this was ubuntu, maybe their packager's fault?) pushed me to do something simple. lxde on arch. When I decided I was sick of lxde, I went back to kubuntu. But there were too many moving parts, animations, etc. |
| 10:41.54 | sylar_ | ethanol, k |
| 10:42.02 | smw | t0ni, It made me sick and I ran to gnome :-P. |
| 10:42.05 | t0ni | too many bouncy things |
| 10:42.10 | smw | exactly! |
| 10:42.11 | ethanol | sylar_, either you answer them and it waits for you, or you tell it to say yes to everything. :- ) |
| 10:42.33 | sylar_ | ethanol, one other option that it have is to background the process |
| 10:42.39 | t0ni | fading in n out |
| 10:42.49 | sylar_ | ethanol, but IDK if it can be done in advance for all |
| 10:42.51 | ethanol | sylar_, uhm, where? |
| 10:43.11 | t0ni | this is a desktop not hollywood |
| 10:43.16 | sylar_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.22 | ethanol | oh you mean that |
| 10:43.23 | smw | t0ni, I am glad I am not the only one. |
| 10:43.36 | ethanol | sylar_, maybe you can do this using -o, but I don't know all the options |
| 10:43.57 | t0ni | more animations than pixar |
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| 10:44.40 | ethanol | I like the latest fedora, does that make me a bad person? :< |
| 10:45.02 | smw | hm... maybe I should try fedora... lol |
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| 10:45.13 | amphi | ethanol: you have to ask? |
| 10:45.18 | ethanol | yes! |
| 10:45.25 | amphi | anathematises ethanol |
| 10:45.35 | amphi | heretic! |
| 10:45.52 | ethanol | why? I still use debian on all servers :< |
| 10:45.59 | ethanol | I just don't consider debian a desktop os |
| 10:46.02 | amphi | ethanol: I joke |
| 10:46.18 | amphi | I find debian pleasant on my laptop |
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| 10:46.35 | ethanol | maybe if I'd run it as unstable. |
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| 10:50.28 | bambanx | how can install wine 1.3 on debian squeeze? |
| 10:52.37 | ||__\\\ | smw: i use awesome, it's awesome |
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| 10:53.00 | smw | ||__\\\, never heard of that |
| 10:53.03 | smooki | hi |
| 10:53.10 | smw | ||__\\\, but I use gnome, it is gnome... :-P |
| 10:53.10 | smooki | is there a tool to 'clear' file ? |
| 10:53.29 | smooki | to remove it's content without deleting it |
| 10:54.29 | ||__\\\ | smw: echo "" > file |
| 10:54.40 | ||__\\\ | it will still contain a line though |
| 10:54.50 | ||__\\\ | why don't you want to delete it? |
| 10:54.51 | smooki | thanks |
| 10:55.00 | frostschutz | echo -n gets rid of the newline |
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| 10:55.12 | ||__\\\ | frostschutz: ah, true |
| 10:55.13 | smooki | echo 'content' > file replace the file content, and >> append ? |
| 10:55.21 | frostschutz | yes |
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| 10:55.26 | smooki | thanks |
| 10:56.02 | frostschutz | you can actually do just "> file" without echo whatsoever |
| 10:56.09 | frostschutz | to get a 0 byte file |
| 10:56.16 | smooki | :) |
| 10:56.18 | smooki | cool |
| 10:56.28 | ethanol | or touch! |
| 10:56.29 | ethanol | =D |
| 10:56.37 | frostschutz | touch works, but only if the file doesnt already exist |
| 10:56.46 | smooki | I see |
| 10:56.49 | kgoetz | ethanol: touch updates the timestamp, it doesn't clear it |
| 10:56.52 | ethanol | or, my bad, didn't read so far up |
| 10:57.06 | frostschutz | dd of=file count=0 is another alternative :) |
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| 10:57.58 | frostschutz | or truncate --size=0 file |
| 10:59.48 | smw | frostschutz, ooh, I did not know about the truncate function |
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| 11:07.08 | sylar_ | the z option is not what I thought, it background the whole installation process |
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| 11:10.19 | daniel-s | !dist-upgrade |
| 11:10.20 | dpkg | dist-upgrade tells apt to also install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages). Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; in lenny, aptitude calls dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. See also <why not dist-upgrade> <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze> <full-upgrade>. |
| 11:10.22 | daniel-s | !why not dist-upgrade |
| 11:10.22 | dpkg | If you're going to use apt-get dist-upgrade (or aptitude full-upgrade), when you run the command, you need to make absolutely sure that it isn't going to remove anything you actually want to have installed. If it does, use apt-get install to install specific packages that have been held back on apt-get upgrade, and only allow upgrades that don't remove things that you want. Ask me about <pinning> <hold> <unmarkauto>. |
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| 11:10.46 | petemc | daniel-s: /msg dpkg .. |
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| 11:13.11 | daniel-s | iceweasel is not being updated |
| 11:13.12 | daniel-s | http://pastebin.com/kg6zdENz |
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| 11:13.21 | daniel-s | can anyone see why? |
| 11:13.50 | daniel-s | is libnss3-1d too low a version in backports? |
| 11:14.48 | Arafangion | daniel-s: That explicitly says that you need a newer xulrunner. |
| 11:14.55 | Arafangion | daniel-s: Which is not installed automatically. |
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| 11:15.06 | sylar_ | what to do with:W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/e100/d101m_ucode.bin for module e100 ? |
| 11:15.27 | Arafangion | sylar_: Do you want that firmware? If so, get it and put it in. |
| 11:15.40 | sylar_ | where is it? |
| 11:16.07 | Arafangion | In firmware-linux-nonfree, I think. |
| 11:17.08 | daniel-s | Arafangion: when I try to install xulrunner 7.0 it says there is an unmet dependency |
| 11:17.14 | daniel-s | I cannot install that dependency |
| 11:17.19 | Arafangion | daniel-s: Why not? |
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| 11:18.57 | sylar_ | what to do about "Unable to migrate to dependency-based boot system" ? |
| 11:19.03 | sylar_ | woudl that prevent boot? |
| 11:19.50 | daniel-s | Arafangion: libnss3-1d on which xulrunner-7.0 is the newest version on the repositories, but is not new enough for xulrunner-7.0 |
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| 11:21.45 | daniel-s | actually, I think I have the answer! |
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| 11:22.20 | cherrybone | how do I update an HP notebook's BIOS from within Debian? |
| 11:23.08 | sylar_ | would that prevent boot? |
| 11:23.16 | sylar_ | "Unable to migrate to dependency-based boot system" ? |
| 11:23.19 | sep | cherrybone, been a while. but normaly it involves copying the flash tool and bios firmware to some DOS bootable floppy/cdrom/usb ; and rebooting on that to do the flash from dos |
| 11:23.27 | sep | sylar_, no, |
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| 11:23.53 | sep | it will use the old (slower?) sequencial boot |
| 11:23.55 | leadgy | hey guys |
| 11:24.06 | cherrybone | sep, think I've found something. Thanks |
| 11:24.28 | sylar_ | ok reboot then |
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| 11:28.10 | leadgy | my debian server freezes in runlevel 2 and I've been told this could be a CVE |
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| 11:29.46 | leadgy | after it enters in runlevel 2, it loads a few init.d services and then freezes - the console is still typeable but it doesn't take any commands |
| 11:29.47 | petemc | leadgy: runlevel 2 is the default runlevel - or do you mean it locks up and is unusable? |
| 11:30.21 | daniel-s | Arafangion: thanks, I found that for some reason my backports was commented out |
| 11:30.45 | leadgy | petemc - yes, I mean that in runlevel 1/maintenance mode it works but after I press CTRL+D it loads a few services and freezes - I can still type in the console but nothing happens |
| 11:30.45 | daniel-s | fixed it :) |
| 11:30.51 | sep | leadgy, what's the last output before it freezes ? |
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| 11:31.25 | leadgy | initially it was "starting apache2" and I disabled apache2 from init.d |
| 11:31.36 | leadgy | then the last output became "starting tomcat 5.5" |
| 11:31.41 | leadgy | and I disabled it as well |
| 11:31.54 | leadgy | then the last output became "starting proftpd" ... |
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| 11:31.55 | leadgy | and so on |
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| 11:32.25 | leadgy | I don't think it is because of apache2 or tomcat but I don't know how to debug this issue |
| 11:32.31 | mstevens | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:32.43 | tawtaw | when i trigger my application (php) to send a email, qmail only delivers it locally o_O why is this? any ideas? i would like it to send it to the user and not keep it locally. |
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| 11:32.56 | leadgy | sep, any ideas? |
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| 11:33.14 | th0r | mstevens: I installed it this morning, and have been waiting for the other shoe to drop. But so far so good |
| 11:33.20 | sep | you can't ssh to the device or anything ? |
| 11:33.34 | leadgy | sep, I can enter maintenance mode |
| 11:33.38 | neil | tawtaw, have you put an alias in /etc/aliases |
| 11:33.40 | sep | leadgy, remove quiet from your bootline if you have that |
| 11:33.45 | leadgy | by choosing grub/single mode |
| 11:33.55 | leadgy | sep - will do |
| 11:33.57 | sep | to see if you get more verbose output |
| 11:34.00 | mstevens | th0r: I got a BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request, but I've also been a bit suspicious of this hardware for a while... |
| 11:34.01 | tawtaw | neil: ... no :) should i? |
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| 11:34.34 | Bushmills | tawtaw: sent mail goes to the machine running the smtp server which takes in mail for the user. it is up to the user to fetch the mail from there |
| 11:34.51 | neil | tawtaw, if you want all internal mail to user xyz to go to an external email... yes |
| 11:35.23 | neil | tawtaw, and run newaliases (as root) |
| 11:35.27 | tawtaw | Bushmills: i think you are missunderstanding. (which is probably my faut) i have a webform that should send a email to info@whatever.com, now when i go to my info@whatever.com account its empty, when i run qmail-qread the mails are there |
| 11:35.51 | neil | tawtaw, this is assuming you have your MTA setup correctly. |
| 11:36.16 | Bushmills | tawtaw: i'd guess that's due to incorrect configuration |
| 11:36.16 | tawtaw | neil: it is, i can send emails and get them otherwise no problem, i can do mail info@anothersite.com and it works fine |
| 11:36.47 | tawtaw | and info@whatever.com can send and get emails fine |
| 11:36.49 | neil | tawtaw, that seems ok |
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| 11:37.04 | tawtaw | its only the webform which does not work |
| 11:37.15 | tawtaw | i never toched /etc/aliases before, i will readup on it |
| 11:37.17 | tawtaw | thanks |
| 11:39.51 | tawtaw | neil: can you explain to me how to setup /etc/aliases? the first entry is source and the : second is destination right? but then it would be info@whatever.com: info@whatever.com but that would not work would it? |
| 11:40.07 | tawtaw | i am very new to mailserver sorry for my ignorance |
| 11:40.10 | leadgy | sep, I don't get any additional info before it freezes |
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| 11:43.08 | sep | leadgy, then i dont know. start in single use mode. and start scripts manually untill it freezes ? |
| 11:43.09 | neil | tawtaw, the aliases file sets up a forwarding email for a user... so if you have a user 'info' ... a line like "info: me@home.com" ... would send internal email to user 'info' to the external address. |
| 11:43.24 | leadgy | sep, how do I start the scripts manually? |
| 11:43.38 | leadgy | you mean I just /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
| 11:43.41 | leadgy | and all the same? |
| 11:43.51 | tawtaw | neil: how do i know who the user is for the php form? |
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| 11:45.45 | neil | tawtaw, no idea... you could have a look at /var/mail files and see which user it is being put in. |
| 11:46.33 | sep | leadgy, yes. preferably in the order they normals are started. look in rcS.d and rc2.d |
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| 11:47.10 | leadgy | sep, will do -thanks |
| 11:47.14 | vyadhaka1 | synaptic, aptitude, or update manager do not load. how to fix this? |
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| 11:47.45 | Bushmills | vyadhaka1: you'd start by determining the reason for the problem |
| 11:47.52 | Bushmills | like, reading error messages |
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| 11:49.40 | xp | what does "searching questions" mean? does it mean "very deep thoughtful questions"? |
| 11:50.28 | neil | how do I change the timezone? do I just put the correct thing in /etc/timezone ? |
| 11:50.58 | Bushmills | neil, there's tzselect which can do that for you |
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| 11:52.18 | neil | Bushmills, thanks |
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| 12:00.46 | koskoz | hi |
| 12:01.00 | koskoz | is there a way to cd into /log/apache2? |
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| 12:02.42 | Mmike | koskoz, using 'cd' ? |
| 12:02.47 | file-exists-p | hi all. I try to follow http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging to create a package, but when running 'debuild -us -uc' it actually try to write into /usr/bin to install the binary. Is that normal ? |
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| 12:03.41 | ries | gents, is there a command to look at the license of a specific package? |
| 12:04.07 | neil | Bushmills, ok I ran tzselect... it said what the timezone should be.. I already knew that... so I manually changed /etc/timezone ... logged out and back in ... and date is still reporting the incorrect timezone... and "ehco $TZ" doesn't report anything... what is wrong? |
| 12:04.12 | galaxyAbstractor | hey |
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| 12:04.40 | galaxyAbstractor | I am quite new to linux, and I wonder how I can specify file permissions for a specific group? |
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| 12:05.14 | galaxyAbstractor | I know about chmod g+s folder but that would only set it to the permission of the current logged in group under root, right? |
| 12:05.15 | koskoz | Mmike:koskoz@lolilolbox:/var/log$ cd apache2/ |
| 12:05.16 | koskoz | bash: cd: apache2/: Permission denied |
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| 12:05.31 | file-exists-p | galaxy in basic UNIX, it does the other way around: each file belongs to a group (and to a user) and you specify what the said group (or user, or everybody) can do with the file |
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| 12:05.37 | file-exists-p | -does+goes |
| 12:05.48 | galaxyAbstractor | ah |
| 12:06.28 | koskoz | I've set a chmod 775 on /var/log/apache2 but I don't kno if it's a good solution |
| 12:06.34 | Mmike | koskoz, either become root, or add yourself in adm group |
| 12:06.37 | Mmike | it's probably not |
| 12:06.45 | __njvic | hello, i'm getting this error: dpkg: error processing apache2.2-common_2.2.9-10+lenny11_i386.deb (--install): unable to create `./etc/apache2/conf.d/security': Permission denied |
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| 12:07.14 | file-exists-p | koskoz: edit /etc/group and add your login at the end of the line starting with "adm" |
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| 12:07.17 | __njvic | any idea what would cause that? |
| 12:07.42 | galaxyAbstractor | I'm really confused though and I don't even know if chmod is the right thing to do :s, I have three groups and I am trying to create three directories in a /shared folder, each folder only accessible to said group |
| 12:07.48 | galaxyAbstractor | but I'm kinda lost :P |
| 12:08.14 | file-exists-p | galaxy: you would do "chgrp groupname /dirname" |
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| 12:08.31 | galaxyAbstractor | ah, thanks, I'll try :D |
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| 12:08.44 | file-exists-p | this will indicate that the said dir now belongs to the said group |
| 12:09.15 | nsadmin | without saying anything about how the content should change |
| 12:09.21 | file-exists-p | yes |
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| 12:09.58 | file-exists-p | I would personnaly do something like chown -R login:group dir |
| 12:10.07 | file-exists-p | to state the user, the group, and do it recursively |
| 12:10.34 | nsadmin | but... can only run that as root |
| 12:10.39 | file-exists-p | what? |
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| 12:10.50 | nsadmin | cannot run chown as plain user. |
| 12:10.53 | file-exists-p | ??? |
| 12:10.57 | nsadmin | cannot run chown as plain user. |
| 12:10.57 | file-exists-p | of course you can |
| 12:11.04 | file-exists-p | why couldn't you? |
| 12:11.09 | file-exists-p | ah |
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| 12:11.33 | file-exists-p | there are constraints on what owner / group you can use, yes I presume |
| 12:11.34 | Bushmills | neil, TZ is not supposed to be set, unless you want to override /etc/timezone |
| 12:11.36 | nsadmin | if you could then it would be much easier for users to setuid root |
| 12:11.48 | Mmike | Bushmills, I love you! |
| 12:12.00 | Mmike | I'd love you if you were Tullamore Dew too! |
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| 12:12.04 | nsadmin | Bromance!! |
| 12:12.29 | koskoz | file-exists-p: thanks. Can you tell me what were the default permissions on /var/log/apache2 please? |
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| 12:13.14 | neil | Bushmills, ok |
| 12:13.26 | Bushmills | do dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 12:13.37 | Mmike | $ ls -ald /var/log/apache2/ |
| 12:13.37 | Mmike | drwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 2011-09-04 07:38 /var/log/apache2/ |
| 12:13.42 | neil | Bushmills, do I need to reboot for the new setting to take effect? |
| 12:13.57 | Bushmills | not with dpkg-reconf... |
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| 12:14.43 | neil | Bushmills, much better |
| 12:14.56 | mincho | hello |
| 12:16.15 | file-exists-p | kskoz wait a min sorry I was on the tel |
| 12:16.30 | mincho | I'm trying to install debian on sparc and have a "Release file signed by unknown key" |
| 12:16.37 | mincho | could someone give some help please |
| 12:17.16 | neil | tawtaw, did you figure out what user the form is using? |
| 12:17.22 | file-exists-p | kskoz: I presume 640 root:adm ? |
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| 12:17.38 | nsadmin | mincho, what version of debian? |
| 12:17.43 | mincho | squeeze |
| 12:17.54 | mincho | im doing a netinstall |
| 12:17.55 | koskoz | file-exists-p: thanks |
| 12:17.58 | nsadmin | and this happens when? |
| 12:18.02 | mincho | don't know if that matters |
| 12:18.07 | oldtopman | Can someone help me with a HD labeling issue? |
| 12:18.20 | oldtopman | Take your time, ofc |
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| 12:18.38 | koskoz | file-exists-p: ah, and now I can't access to the folder anymore, even if I'm added to the "adm" group. Do I need to relog for the group change to take effect? |
| 12:18.43 | tawtaw | neil: the problem is that the server i am runing apparently was running plesk, and thus not using normal qmail, so i dont have newaliases :/ |
| 12:18.45 | mincho | well everything goes fine up to the "Install the base system" step |
| 12:18.55 | tawtaw | neil: thanks for all the help though, i am going through the forums now |
| 12:19.01 | nsadmin | ok |
| 12:19.09 | mincho | I have the error Release file signed by unknown key (key id 64481591B98321F9 |
| 12:19.23 | neil | tawtaw, ok see ya |
| 12:19.28 | mincho | tried different mirrors but the same error... |
| 12:19.39 | nsadmin | is this fatal? does it cause the process to stop? |
| 12:19.43 | mincho | yep |
| 12:20.09 | mincho | "The base system installation into /target/ failed" |
| 12:20.18 | nsadmin | ok, your netinstall cd should have the base on it... try this... reinstall, but leave network unconfigured |
| 12:20.33 | nsadmin | this should cause the installer and the base to be pulled from the cd |
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| 12:20.48 | jelly | are there torrents for DebConf11 videos? http://meetings-archive.debian.net/ is a bit slow |
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| 12:21.17 | mincho | I'm using a minimal system for the netinstall, do you thing I should try with more complete image |
| 12:21.31 | galaxyAbstractor | oh, another thing, all files created in these folders should be owned by the same group that owns the folder the file is placed in |
| 12:21.39 | nsadmin | no, try what I'm telling you |
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| 12:21.54 | nsadmin | but additionally, find out what driver the net card is using |
| 12:21.54 | galaxyAbstractor | how would I set it up to automatically apply that group on file creation? |
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| 12:22.32 | nsadmin | galaxyAbstractor, you can do that for a dir by turning on its setgid bit |
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| 12:22.37 | mincho | here is a part of my syslog |
| 12:22.41 | mincho | http://pastebin.com/mq8izn6J |
| 12:22.52 | galaxyAbstractor | ahh, /me googles away on setgid :P |
| 12:23.16 | oldtopman | Hello? |
| 12:23.19 | mincho | I don't think it is a network problem, because the installer connects to the mirror in order to get the drivers |
| 12:23.29 | mincho | so the connection is ok |
| 12:23.42 | nsadmin | you're not understanding... |
| 12:23.46 | mincho | maybe |
| 12:23.48 | nsadmin | we're tricking it |
| 12:23.54 | nsadmin | we're doing a trick |
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| 12:24.04 | mincho | let me reread |
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| 12:24.36 | mincho | ok |
| 12:24.52 | nsadmin | here's what normally is supposed to happen: you tell it "detect nte network" it finds the driver and probably you say "dhcp" |
| 12:24.57 | mincho | is retrying |
| 12:25.07 | mincho | yeah yeah I got you |
| 12:25.19 | file-exists-p | galaxy "mode g+s blah" will change the mode of blah so that any file created there will now belong to the same group as blah |
| 12:25.29 | sephii | could anybody help me configuring automount? I've been trying to use it since several months but I still can't get anything to work |
| 12:25.35 | mincho | I'm not sure the base is on the system, because I'm using only a small "boot.img" because I'm installing on sparc |
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| 12:25.51 | galaxyAbstractor | file-exists-p: yeah I just found it and it worked :D thanks |
| 12:26.03 | mincho | So what I can possibly do is to boot on the boot.img and get the base over nfs or something |
| 12:26.10 | nsadmin | after which the network is configured AND the installer knows it's configured AND it uses this knowledge to infer: "I can get the installer from the net... since the net is up... I can also get the base from the net... since the net is up..." |
| 12:26.29 | nsadmin | nonono, you don't have to do anything like that |
| 12:26.33 | __njvic | this is wierd... as root, I can't update a file, it says permission is denied. permissions for the file are 755. What's going on? |
| 12:26.48 | nsadmin | all you have to do is start the install over and FAIL to configure the net |
| 12:27.12 | mincho | I'm using a really tiny image to boot -- like 9750128bytes |
| 12:27.25 | mincho | so I don't think there is a base on it |
| 12:27.29 | mincho | but will try however |
| 12:27.30 | mincho | bbl |
| 12:27.36 | nsadmin | so you're actually not using the netinstall image? |
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| 12:27.50 | nsadmin | maybe the business card cd? |
| 12:28.14 | mincho | not even that |
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| 12:28.44 | nsadmin | if it's the netinst image, it should be about 150-200mb |
| 12:29.03 | nsadmin | maybe larger since it's a sparc and sparcs are risc |
| 12:29.08 | mincho | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-sparc/current/images/netboot/ |
| 12:29.12 | mincho | this is it |
| 12:29.24 | nsadmin | oh, net-boot- |
| 12:29.29 | mincho | yep |
| 12:29.44 | nsadmin | is there a netinst image for it? |
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| 12:30.02 | nsadmin | alternatively to all of this... you may be able to install the key mamually |
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| 12:30.47 | StephenS | sleep time |
| 12:31.34 | nsadmin | you have to first get the key from gpg, then I think you use aptring-key to add it to the proper key |
| 12:31.49 | nsadmin | apt-key, proper keyring |
| 12:32.34 | siefca | can someone fix libpam-ldap ? :) there is very annoying bug, that makes it unable to change password when using LDAP |
| 12:32.35 | nsadmin | if those programs are available in the installer env, you're probably set |
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| 12:33.03 | nsadmin | siefca, maybe you can |
| 12:33.04 | siefca | libpam-ldap is simply missing dependency (should require libpam-cracklib) |
| 12:33.08 | __njvic | this is driving me nuts.. why does dpkg tell me it doesn't have permission when I am running it as root?? |
| 12:33.32 | oldtopman | Can someone help me with an installation issue? |
| 12:33.35 | mincho | nsadmin: thanks givving it a try |
| 12:34.00 | nsadmin | see if you can execute a shell in the installer env |
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| 12:34.14 | nsadmin | then see if gpg exists, and apt-key |
| 12:34.21 | siefca | nsadmin: i have to read about development process first, never touched Debian's repos |
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| 12:35.26 | siefca | nsadmin: but i will, since I've switched to Debian from PLD on all my machines |
| 12:35.34 | nsadmin | I meant that perhaps you could fix it for yourself. if you keep track of exactly what you did to find and then to fix the problem, you could then file a bug report with the fix in it |
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| 12:36.18 | nsadmin | what if you install the cracklib thing? |
| 12:36.21 | siefca | nsadmin: the bug is filled, but probably something is blocking it to be released in squeeze |
| 12:36.31 | __njvic | is there a more appropriate channel to ask dpkg questions in ? |
| 12:36.37 | siefca | nsadmin: if I install it problem is solved |
| 12:36.56 | flamingspinach | __njvic: you could just PM it :P |
| 12:37.01 | siefca | nsadmin: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=588434 |
| 12:37.07 | nsadmin | it might not be important enough. the only kinds of things that can change in squeeze is critical bugs |
| 12:37.14 | nsadmin | especially security issues |
| 12:37.37 | __njvic | haha... no I mean questions related to errors that I get when actually running the command :) |
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| 12:37.59 | nsadmin | in short, you will have to move a few mountains to get this released by debian into squeeze |
| 12:38.08 | __njvic | it's not playing nice. |
| 12:38.11 | the_menace | hello. any idea how can i find out the server's connection speed to the internet ? |
| 12:38.27 | oldtopman | the_menace: Try http://www.speedtest.net/ |
| 12:38.39 | oldtopman | Nobody's here Q.Q |
| 12:38.50 | siefca | nsadmin: isn't it important, when user cannot change its password? :) |
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| 12:38.56 | the_menace | its not on my pc , its on my remote server |
| 12:39.04 | siefca | s/its/his\/her/ |
| 12:39.09 | nsadmin | I'm not the one you have to convince |
| 12:39.27 | siefca | i know, just ensuring myself that I'm thinking correctly |
| 12:39.28 | nsadmin | what if you install the cracklib thing? |
| 12:39.29 | siefca | :0 |
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| 12:39.53 | siefca | if i install the cracklib thing there is no problem and user is able to change the password |
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| 12:41.25 | the_menace | any idea how i can find out the backbones my server is connected to ? |
| 12:41.34 | oldtopman | traceroute. |
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| 12:42.21 | nsadmin | ok, so therefore these two problems can be separated (your problem at your local site by installing a package on each box, and then convincing first the maintainer that this is a problmm serious enough, and then convincing security.d.o folks to release the fix) |
| 12:42.30 | ethanol | __njvic, are you using sudo? |
| 12:42.48 | oldtopman | I'll ask one more time (then leave politely). Can anyone help me with an issue I had during the install of Debian 6.0.2.1? It seems to be confused about my Hard drive layout and installed to the wrong one. |
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| 12:43.13 | ethanol | oldtopman, it installed whatever you told it to, I imagine :< |
| 12:43.20 | the_menace | backbones are the hops ? |
| 12:43.29 | nsadmin | oldtopman, what do you want to do about it? |
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| 12:44.02 | oldtopman | I'd like to have debian up and working, and am willing to try again, but I need it to work this time (and not delete any of my crap) |
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| 12:44.21 | oldtopman | I'll explain in more detail |
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| 12:44.39 | siefca | nsadmin: for me it's not a problem, I just want other people to not waste their time debugging PAM. I'll try to reach the maintainer an sec. guys and convince them that changing password is a nice feature that should work. :) |
| 12:44.40 | NSQ | the_menace: if you are only interested in download speed, you could just torrent a popular file, usally you should get fullspeed there |
| 12:44.58 | nsadmin | oldtopman, did you give the partitioner permission to do some of the decision work for you? |
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| 12:45.09 | oldtopman | nsadmin: no. |
| 12:45.15 | ethanol | the_menace, some providers host a 100mb.bin file for speedtesting |
| 12:45.22 | nsadmin | so you created all the partitions |
| 12:45.24 | ethanol | the_menace, try googling that |
| 12:45.29 | the_menace | thanks |
| 12:45.42 | nsadmin | and then set the installer loose |
| 12:45.43 | oldtopman | I have three HDs in my system. sda (sata) sdb (sata) and sdc (IDE). I partitioned sda into two partitions (swap and main) and installed debian. |
| 12:45.49 | oldtopman | Thats right. |
| 12:46.03 | oldtopman | main was / and swap was the only swap I allowed it to use. |
| 12:46.24 | oldtopman | Upon booting sda, all I had was my old (broken) slackware installation. |
| 12:46.37 | oldtopman | sdc however... |
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| 12:46.55 | oldtopman | The bootloader only goes to a black screen and the files aren't on sda. |
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| 12:47.05 | oldtopman | So I am suspecting that it installed everything to sdc |
| 12:47.13 | nsadmin | so maybe it installed grub to sdc? |
| 12:47.21 | oldtopman | So it did. |
| 12:47.34 | oldtopman | But the files are on sdc too. |
| 12:47.43 | oldtopman | adb: Why would it do this |
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| 12:47.49 | oldtopman | b52: How can I stop it |
| 12:47.51 | __njvic | ethanol: no. I am root |
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| 12:48.06 | b52 | oldtopman: ? |
| 12:48.08 | __njvic | chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf': Permission denied |
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| 12:48.11 | __njvic | as root |
| 12:48.19 | oldtopman | b52: no idea, tabfail |
| 12:48.21 | oldtopman | sorry |
| 12:48.25 | b52 | np |
| 12:48.28 | nsadmin | b52, he maeant a and b |
| 12:48.35 | oldtopman | And C: What prevents sdb from being my next target? |
| 12:49.11 | oldtopman | (sdc being my dev env, and sdb being my main OS. backups FTW) |
| 12:49.12 | Trewas | oldtopman: with mixed sata/pata system it is unknowable in what order different kernel versions and grub will assign as the disks |
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| 12:49.39 | nsadmin | so you had to restore the drive from backups |
| 12:49.44 | oldtopman | no |
| 12:49.51 | oldtopman | I have all my source code in backups |
| 12:50.02 | oldtopman | I have to completely reinstall slackware, etc |
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| 12:50.18 | nsadmin | oh, ok |
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| 12:50.50 | nsadmin | so the debian installer did something it was specifically told not to do according to what you're saying |
| 12:50.52 | oldtopman | ironically, I was installing debian as a dev environemnt. |
| 12:50.55 | oldtopman | right |
| 12:51.16 | jrib | __njvic: pastebin the output of « mount » |
| 12:51.20 | nsadmin | and the thing it did anyway destroyed an existing partition |
| 12:51.31 | oldtopman | oh, that reminds me |
| 12:51.49 | __njvic | jrib: / is rw, or do you need further info? |
| 12:51.57 | oldtopman | The partitioner reformatted sda properly, but it mk3fs'd sdc |
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| 12:52.10 | jrib | __njvic: need further info |
| 12:52.14 | oldtopman | Because I now have an sda with a bad header and all my old files |
| 12:52.29 | oldtopman | header/superblock/bootloader |
| 12:52.33 | nsadmin | header? |
| 12:52.46 | __njvic | everything is rw.. tic |
| 12:52.48 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 12:53.14 | oldtopman | The broken slackware was even more angry at its main data partition beginning 3gb backwards |
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| 12:53.41 | __njvic | http://pastebin.com/QGRw1wiF |
| 12:53.47 | nsadmin | so it also altered the partition table without being told to? |
| 12:53.58 | oldtopman | No. |
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| 12:54.17 | nsadmin | ok, what do you mean with the 3gb thing? |
| 12:54.20 | oldtopman | The partitioner did the right thing, bit it formatted the wrong drive. |
| 12:54.34 | oldtopman | 3gb is the size of my swab file |
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| 12:54.53 | nsadmin | let me get what you want to accomplish with just the debian installer |
| 12:55.08 | __njvic | jrib: url above |
| 12:55.16 | oldtopman | reformat hd, install debian |
| 12:55.28 | nsadmin | you want your sda to hold debian, AND you want grub to be installed in the master boot record of sda |
| 12:55.29 | nsadmin | yes? |
| 12:55.47 | oldtopman | yes |
| 12:55.59 | jrib | __njvic: what's the chmod command you executed before on /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf? |
| 12:56.14 | Vutral | fucking xdm |
| 12:56.24 | nsadmin | ok, in order to accomplish this and given the installer somehow got confused, I want to suggest a way to not allow it to get confused |
| 12:56.35 | Vutral | it should stop displaying a login prompt when i ask it for a chooser |
| 12:56.35 | __njvic | chmod 755 |
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| 12:56.53 | oldtopman | is all ears |
| 12:56.55 | nsadmin | can you temporarilly take sdb and sdc offline just long enough to install debian? |
| 12:57.05 | __njvic | jrib: actually it was chmod 777 |
| 12:57.11 | nsadmin | s/can you/are you willing/ |
| 12:57.15 | oldtopman | glares at the wiring inside his case |
| 12:57.21 | __njvic | jrib: perms are currently 755 |
| 12:57.25 | oldtopman | s'pose so |
| 12:57.26 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 12:57.45 | Iridos | __njvic, note "(rw,errors=remount-ro)" ... is it possible that you can't edit any file on /? |
| 12:57.46 | jrib | __njvic: full commands please |
| 12:58.36 | nsadmin | I have NO idea what's wrong with the installer... and, this should be reported,,, if everything is as you say, this could cause undesired results for some subset of the debian population |
| 12:58.38 | __njvic | i wondered if it was a filesystem problem. I could touch /forcefsck and after rebooting it was clean, but I still have the same problem |
| 12:58.50 | oldtopman | nsadmin: Do you suppose that grub would work if I installed debian properly? |
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| 12:59.01 | vehicle | Yello', Securing Debian manual suggest one not to connect machine to the internet before configuring it. Is it really an issue if you're doing netinstall behind a router with firewall (and no ports forwarded)? |
| 12:59.05 | oldtopman | had issues with debian 6.0 and grub |
| 12:59.09 | nsadmin | well it does for me |
| 12:59.11 | __njvic | jrib: chmod 777 /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf |
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| 12:59.19 | oldtopman | alright |
| 12:59.37 | Iridos | __njvic, it's ext3... you can also set files immutable with chattr - but why that should be the case for any config file is beyond me |
| 12:59.49 | oldtopman | nsadmin: Where do I go to report bugs like this? Or are you going to do it for meh |
| 12:59.54 | Iridos | __njvic, you can check with lsattr |
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| 13:00.32 | __njvic | Iridos: lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf |
| 13:01.02 | __njvic | lemme google that |
| 13:01.14 | Iridos | huh? |
| 13:01.33 | oldtopman | nsadmin? |
| 13:01.34 | nsadmin | and in your case, if you make it so that only sda is online during install and you're going to reformat the entire hd, you're essentially completely sidestepping the problem and possibly hiding it from view... perhaps after that it would be hard to reproduce, while in your case trying to reproduce it could cause further damage |
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| 13:02.01 | __njvic | Iridos: are you referring to the error or to me googling the error? |
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| 13:02.38 | Iridos | __njvic, means the filesystem doesn't support attributes, which it should being ext3 |
| 13:03.19 | nsadmin | I dunno what the problem actually is... I'd like to suggest debian-boot@lists.debian.org to start with, and once they're seeing this you could try #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net |
| 13:03.40 | oldtopman | nsadmin: email then irc |
| 13:03.43 | oldtopman | got it |
| 13:03.50 | nsadmin | this is simply another example of "separating two coupled problems" |
| 13:03.53 | jrib | why does __njvic have "/dev/xvda1" instead of "/dev/sda1"? Is that a debian thing or does it mean something specific? |
| 13:03.58 | oldtopman | and just email them as much detail as I can I suppose? |
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| 13:04.10 | nsadmin | and in this case ignoring one of them :P |
| 13:04.17 | nsadmin | :) |
| 13:04.23 | __njvic | jrib: it is a VM running on xenserver.. lenny |
| 13:04.31 | nsadmin | yeah |
| 13:04.39 | nsadmin | maybe they can comment |
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| 13:05.25 | nsadmin | btw, you never did any dd partition copying before this, no? |
| 13:05.56 | oldtopman | How do you mean? |
| 13:06.20 | oldtopman | I do it all the time with broken crap, but not to those 3 HDs. |
| 13:06.22 | __njvic | i'm trying to resolve a wider issue, which is a failed apt-get upgrade, but this one little issue has got me stumped. |
| 13:06.25 | oldtopman | (or from) |
| 13:06.25 | nsadmin | dd if=/dev/sdaX of=/dev/sdcY |
| 13:06.34 | nsadmin | that kind of thing |
| 13:06.38 | oldtopman | Yeah. |
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| 13:06.51 | oldtopman | Did it to fix my Wii's backup HD |
| 13:06.54 | oldtopman | And my PS2 HD |
| 13:07.20 | oldtopman | anyway |
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| 13:07.28 | oldtopman | nsadmin: What did you want me to do? |
| 13:07.36 | nsadmin | has given up on the wii due to the crappy cd drive that can't be cleaned by normal methods |
| 13:07.41 | oldtopman | heh |
| 13:08.07 | oldtopman | Thats why I use a backup loader. So the CD drie will work ehrn I (inevitably) resell it. |
| 13:08.10 | nsadmin | I'll never buy snother nintendo -anything- |
| 13:08.16 | oldtopman | D: |
| 13:08.21 | oldtopman | But lets stay on topic |
| 13:08.33 | __njvic | Iridos: because it's a VM I can power it off and mount the volume on another VM, any chance that's going to help resolve the ioctl problem? |
| 13:08.38 | oldtopman | What do I need the dd command for? |
| 13:09.00 | nsadmin | you don't, I'm just wondering if you ever did that |
| 13:09.00 | wols | oldtopman: for copying |
| 13:09.01 | bambanx | what good ftp client for debian? |
| 13:09.02 | Iridos | __njvic, that's not a problem... more of a mystery |
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| 13:09.12 | oldtopman | ah |
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| 13:09.16 | wols | bambanx: filezilla, lftp, ncftp |
| 13:09.25 | Iridos | __njvic, do you get the same for all other files on / ? |
| 13:09.52 | bma | is there some major breakage in unstable? |
| 13:09.53 | nsadmin | see, some partition types have this uuid thing, and if you dd you copy the uuid and therefore have two partitions on separate drives but with the same uuid |
| 13:09.53 | bma | Preparing to replace libc6 2.13-6 (using .../libc6_2.13-19_amd64.deb) ... |
| 13:09.53 | blue_sky | Hi, I've just done an apt-get update/upgrade in response the the Sec Ann. from yesterday evening. The upgrade has generated warnings about missing firmware for my NIC, where do I look to see if it's now built in? |
| 13:09.53 | bma | /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: line 141: /bin/mv: No such file or directory |
| 13:10.28 | nsadmin | bma, a statistically more interesting question is "is there not breakage in sid" |
| 13:10.37 | bma | :( |
| 13:10.38 | jhutchins_lt | bma: It's not, but it probably doesn't matter. |
| 13:11.19 | jhutchins_lt | bma: There is ALLWAYS major breakage in unstable, that's why it's called unstable. |
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| 13:11.32 | bma | I don't need a lecture on unstable sometimes having breakages, I used to be a DD, I know this |
| 13:11.51 | jhutchins_lt | bma: It's not called "shiney new stuff you can install to be cooler than anybody else". |
| 13:11.52 | bma | what I came to find out is if there's some major cahnge going on with libc |
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| 13:12.08 | nsadmin | ok, so, what are you asking then? :) |
| 13:12.21 | nsadmin | oh, ok |
| 13:12.45 | nsadmin | is not in that frey so I dunno :) |
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| 13:13.14 | __njvic | Iridos: chmod 777 worked ok in /var/log on a file, I tried on /etc/rmt, that worked fine, seems nothing in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ can be changed.. permission denied. |
| 13:13.46 | Bushmills | __njvic: why would you want to set a log file execeutable?? |
| 13:13.49 | nsadmin | oh, this is where we should tell you about the channel that specifically supports sid |
| 13:13.57 | nsadmin | what's it called, it's on oftc |
| 13:14.08 | wols | bma: so far you are the first one we saw with this problem. but are you really missing /bin/mv ? |
| 13:14.09 | __njvic | Bushmills: I don't.. it was just a test.. |
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| 13:14.20 | Bushmills | well, you *did* |
| 13:14.24 | bma | wols: no, the binarys are there |
| 13:14.33 | __njvic | Bushmills: read back a bit further |
| 13:14.35 | bma | shagrat:/bin# echo /bin/ls |
| 13:14.35 | bma | /bin/ls |
| 13:14.38 | bma | etc |
| 13:14.43 | bma | but they won't execute :) |
| 13:14.44 | nsadmin | !debian-next |
| 13:14.48 | wols | bma: and of course, currently there is the multiarch transistion which will hit amd64 a lot in the future |
| 13:14.54 | jelly | nsadmin: !wheezy |
| 13:14.58 | __njvic | Bushmills: it's no longer, if that's what you're worried about |
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| 13:15.00 | bma | I think it's the multiarch thign |
| 13:15.03 | bma | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640872 |
| 13:15.06 | bma | probably related to this ticket |
| 13:15.16 | bma | wols: yea, this is an amd64 box |
| 13:15.21 | Bushmills | __njvic: i'm not worried. i just wanted to point out that it makes no sense |
| 13:15.22 | nsadmin | !wheezy |
| 13:15.22 | dpkg | The release after squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie), and will be Debian 7.0. Ask me about <testing>. #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
| 13:15.26 | jhutchins_lt | I'm betting it's an intell nic. |
| 13:15.45 | nsadmin | oh, its here, not on oftc |
| 13:15.59 | nsadmin | did it move from there? |
| 13:16.04 | Oxy290 | the next debian is to be called wheezy? O.o I thought that had already been used, what is it's ETA? |
| 13:16.15 | __njvic | Bushmills: well it all depends what you're trying to do.. if you're trying to demonstrate whether or not doing that is going to cause the same ioctl error as other files in the same filesystem, it makes perfect sense. |
| 13:16.22 | Bushmills | bma: installed 64 bit libc on 32 bit system? |
| 13:16.27 | Iridos | __njvic, I mean lsattr? |
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| 13:16.35 | nsadmin | I think you're thinking of squeezy |
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| 13:16.58 | Oxy290 | nope, I was thinking of lenny, sorry |
| 13:17.04 | Oxy290 | anways, what is it's ETA |
| 13:17.27 | __njvic | Iridos: yes, lsattr elsewhere works fine |
| 13:17.27 | nsadmin | dunno, I don't think it's even frozen yet |
| 13:17.37 | Iridos | __njvic, hm... dunno, the only thing I think is: "fsck the drive". You said you did that, though, but that's the only thing I can think of |
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| 13:18.09 | Oxy290 | dpkg: winbind |
| 13:18.09 | dpkg | Oxy290: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 13:18.14 | Oxy290 | lol |
| 13:19.16 | __njvic | Iridos: actually, just going up a couple of levels.. I ran 'lsattr /etc' and it has an issue only with /etc/motd and all of /etc/apache2 |
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| 13:19.21 | blue_sky | updated my kernel re security announce, update-initramfs warns possible missing firmware for tigon tg3 nic, |
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| 13:19.38 | blue_sky | any ideas where that's gone? |
| 13:19.58 | Oxy290 | Closest debian mirror to Dallas/Fort Worth area |
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| 13:20.40 | __njvic | Iridos: sorry... /etc/motd is a different error ,operation not supported |
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| 13:22.57 | __njvic | Iridos: thanks for the help.. I have an idea. I will mount the volume into another server and rename the /etc/apache directory, then do a reinstall for apache. then redo configs. will take a while but might just work. |
| 13:23.19 | Iridos | __njvic, another possibility is that something else is mounted on top of /etc... but the output of your mount doesn't show any of this |
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| 13:23.26 | Oxy290 | what is better for debian download mirrors? HTTP or FTP |
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| 13:23.51 | blue_sky | hey, turns out GI *M* F :) |
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| 13:24.26 | tp43 | Anyone can help me setup a mail server? |
| 13:24.33 | bambanx | i have python 2.6 on my system and i wanna install 2.7 , is necesary remove 2.6 version ? |
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| 13:27.03 | nsadmin | Oxy290, the name (like ftp.us.debian.org) doesn't matter, because it handles both protocols... having said that, the http protocol (http://...) is more rpbust |
| 13:27.47 | nsadmin | so http://ftp.us.debian.org is perfectly valid because the site handles the protocol |
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| 13:27.55 | Iridos | __njvic, if you don't want to find out, just fix it, copy the whole thing off somewhere (tar as root and option-preserving options), make a new filesystem and copy it back |
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| 13:28.54 | bambanx | nsadmin can you help me with python versions? |
| 13:28.54 | __njvic | Iridos: after mounting into a different server, I have found /etc/apache2 to be empty. |
| 13:29.20 | __njvic | oh well |
| 13:29.37 | __njvic | i can get the configs of another similar server, so should be ok |
| 13:29.42 | Iridos | __njvic, then it must have been mounted on top of / from somewhere else. Your output of "mount" didn't show that, though |
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| 13:35.09 | Bushmills | tp43: statistically, most likely. the art is probably to find somebody who knows what you need help with. |
| 13:36.07 | Bushmills | good chances to find one is by googling for "network services consultant" |
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| 13:36.26 | tp43 | Bushmills, my gmail was spamming the mails, but its working, so easy, just install exim4 and then run exim4-config |
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| 13:41.24 | ahihi2 | hi, I just installed screen from apt but its visual bell is not working - nothing seems to happen when a bell is emitted |
| 13:41.28 | ahihi2 | any ideas? |
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| 13:42.17 | nsadmin | screen purposely silences the bell |
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| 13:42.34 | nsadmin | oh, visual bell,,, dunno |
| 13:42.59 | debiantonio | mental bell.... |
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| 13:43.16 | nsadmin | mental ball |
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| 13:44.06 | oldtopman | nsadmin: Do you want a CC: of my error :P |
| 13:44.23 | Iridos | ahihi2, ctrl-a ctrl-g? |
| 13:44.33 | Oxy290 | dpkg: lol |
| 13:44.33 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 13:44.36 | Oxy290 | what is wrong with this ^ |
| 13:44.38 | nsadmin | appreciate the offer... I won't have time this week to look at it |
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| 13:44.43 | Oxy290 | What if I am from ATL? |
| 13:44.45 | Oxy290 | AOL* |
| 13:45.00 | ahihi2 | Iridos: that switches to the audible bell |
| 13:45.03 | ahihi2 | which is not what I want |
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| 13:45.06 | oldtopman | nsadmin: its really just what I told you earlier, but good luck with the weekend |
| 13:45.11 | oldtopman | Oxy290: We hate you. |
| 13:45.21 | Oxy290 | haha, But I love you =D |
| 13:45.37 | oldtopman | UGH |
| 13:45.41 | oldtopman | AOL germz |
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| 13:51.30 | Vespakoen | Hi there!, I have a webserver with a folder "images", everytime i want to upload something with sftp (ssh) i have to "sudo chown vespakoen:www-data images" to be able to upload something and "sudo chown www-data:www-data images" afterwards to be able to upload something via the website again |
| 13:51.55 | Vespakoen | how can i fix permissions so that i can upload via the website, and upload via sftp ? |
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| 13:55.17 | Bushmills | Vespakoen: set your permissions to world readable |
| 13:55.18 | wols | make the directory group writable |
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| 13:55.45 | Iridos | so many options |
| 13:55.58 | Vespakoen | but i dont want everyone to be able to upload something, it has to be secure in some way |
| 13:56.16 | Bushmills | forget what i said. i somehow understood you had problems reading the uploaded files |
| 13:56.32 | Vespakoen | directory group writable = chmod -R 0775 ? |
| 13:56.37 | Iridos | Vespakoen, he said world-*readable* |
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| 13:56.50 | Vespakoen | oh i see |
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| 13:57.25 | Vespakoen | should it be vespakoen:www-data or www-data:www-data + world readable ? |
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| 13:57.46 | Iridos | the webserver just needs to read it. owner then does not matter |
| 13:58.04 | wols | only for uploading, then the webserver needs to be able to write to it too |
| 13:58.07 | Vespakoen | oh wait, i dont have problems reading |
| 13:58.18 | Iridos | wols, write to images? |
| 13:58.18 | wols | e.g it runs as www-data:www-data |
| 13:58.23 | Vespakoen | when its www-data:www-data i cant upload via sftp (user vespakoen) |
| 13:58.31 | wols | Iridos: yes. he clearly wants to upload images via the website |
| 13:58.37 | Vespakoen | yes |
| 13:58.40 | Iridos | he said "ftp" |
| 13:58.43 | Iridos | sftp* |
| 13:58.44 | Vespakoen | via website AND via sftp |
| 13:59.05 | Vespakoen | but now, if i want to do both i have to change the groups in between |
| 13:59.11 | Vespakoen | or owner* |
| 13:59.20 | wols | you won't want stuff owned by www-data (imho). so let the directory be owned by vespakeon:www-data and make it group writable and owner writable |
| 13:59.44 | Iridos | you can have user as ... right, was going to say that |
| 13:59.47 | Vespakoen | ok, so how to change the group permissions then ? |
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| 14:00.33 | Iridos | "chmod g+rw"? |
| 14:01.17 | Vespakoen | so lets say i want www-data to be able to modify files |
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| 14:01.24 | Vespakoen | and vespakoen too |
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| 14:01.34 | Vespakoen | www-data = group, vespakoen = user if i am correct |
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| 14:02.54 | Iridos | you could set the suid-bit on the directory for user and group, then they all new files will have these owners |
| 14:03.30 | Iridos | hm, not user on my system? |
| 14:03.45 | Vespakoen | i think that is for example, when i upload a file via the website and want to overwrite it with sftp? thats not happening in my case |
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| 14:04.02 | Vespakoen | the website is adding files, and sftp is adding files, no conflicts with the files themselves |
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| 14:04.39 | Vespakoen | drwxr-xr-x 15 vespakoen www-data 4096 sep 7 21:24 images |
| 14:04.51 | Vespakoen | thats the current situation |
| 14:05.05 | Iridos | then you only need write permission for the webserver (or one of its groups) and for the user (or one of his grous) on the directory (and set user+group accordingly) |
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| 14:05.26 | Iridos | chmod g+s sep |
| 14:05.31 | Iridos | err |
| 14:05.34 | Iridos | chmod g+w sep |
| 14:05.39 | __njvic | Iridos: all fixed. |
| 14:05.40 | Iridos | g==group w==write |
| 14:05.47 | Vespakoen | sep = september =P |
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| 14:05.49 | Iridos | __njvic, what was it |
| 14:06.11 | Vespakoen | ok, lets see what that does |
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| 14:07.07 | Iridos | Vespakoen, "man chmod" is said to be a useful read |
| 14:07.08 | __njvic | Iridos: dunno.. i think it was probably that it had removed the /etc/apache2 directory contents, but somehow the filesystem hadn't caught up with that. strangely enough it persisted through reboots. |
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| 14:07.20 | Vespakoen | drwxrwxr-x 15 vespakoen www-data 4096 sep 7 21:24 images |
| 14:07.28 | Vespakoen | will read that! |
| 14:08.30 | Vespakoen | upload doesnt work |
| 14:09.19 | __njvic | Iridos: I was doing a reinstall of apache, but in the process it was complaining about the file/permissions errors. not sure how it could have been corrected without mounting the volume in another system.. and I guess I'll never know.. not unless it happens again, which I hope it doesn't - surely all future apt-get upgrade commands will work seamlessly without error ;) |
| 14:09.24 | Iridos | Vespakoen, and a bit more extensive is "info coreutils" search (ctrl-s or /) for: permissions |
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| 14:11.16 | Iridos | what? Setuid on directories is not universal and apparently doesn't direct file-ownership in linux?! |
| 14:11.21 | Iridos | what does it do, then? |
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| 14:15.29 | Iridos | the scandal |
| 14:15.34 | Iridos | Vespakoen, upload with what= |
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| 14:16.48 | Vespakoen | website |
| 14:16.51 | Vespakoen | behind a user login |
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| 14:19.22 | Iridos | Vespakoen, should... give write permissions on the directory to everyone, upload a file via the web and look what owner/group it gets |
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| 14:22.44 | GJdan | I'm having a little trouble settings up a static ip :\ |
| 14:22.49 | Iridos | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.59 | GJdan | where do I find network and broadcast ips? I see nothing of the sort in my router stats |
| 14:23.19 | N-I-L | ifconfig |
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| 14:24.13 | GJdan | aye, doesn't show it when I use the default interfaces file |
| 14:24.21 | GJdan | this is the interfaces I'm trying to use http://dpaste.org/DUsuM/ |
| 14:24.50 | GJdan | I had it working until I got this cisco modem router combo |
| 14:25.04 | wols | and what isn't working now? |
| 14:25.07 | GJdan | nope |
| 14:25.19 | wols | I asked what isn't working now exactly? |
| 14:25.23 | GJdan | it isn't taking that's all, not able to connect to the internet |
| 14:25.25 | GJdan | lolol sry |
| 14:25.35 | wols | can you ping the router? |
| 14:26.01 | wols | can you ping 209.85.148.104 ? |
| 14:27.00 | N-I-L | wols: would a reservation need to be set? |
| 14:27.08 | N-I-L | in dhcp that is |
| 14:27.26 | GJdan | I'm trying to find where to do that sry |
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| 14:28.38 | GJdan | found it, one sec |
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| 14:29.28 | GJdan | oh wow nvm it's not there... haha...ha |
| 14:29.34 | gp5st | hello, how does one flush the dns cache? |
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| 14:32.24 | N-I-L | /etc/init.d/networking restart i believe. |
| 14:32.39 | gp5st | i'm over ssh...is that a good idea? |
| 14:32.40 | GJdan | ya, I've been using that |
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| 14:33.07 | GJdan | this router modem was given by my ISP, and it seems they may have screwed with it a little :\ |
| 14:33.34 | N-I-L | gp5st: im not sure on that. |
| 14:33.43 | th0r | gp5st: look what shows up when you look http://www.techiecorner.com/35/how-to-flush-dns-cache-in-linux-windows-mac/ |
| 14:34.03 | gp5st | ive seen that |
| 14:34.07 | gp5st | we don't have nscd |
| 14:34.10 | gp5st | hence why i came here |
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| 14:36.32 | th0r | gp5st: are you going to tell what you DO have, or should we guess? |
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| 14:37.06 | gp5st | 1) i don't know, 2) I'm not sure my local cache is the issue |
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| 14:37.47 | N-I-L | whats the problem exactly gp5st? |
| 14:37.49 | th0r | gp5st: where is the logic in sending everyone a wild goose chase for a problem you might not have? |
| 14:38.19 | gp5st | it's not a wild goose chase |
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| 14:38.38 | gp5st | N-I-L gave me what i wanted to know, i was content with that |
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| 14:52.53 | GJdan | aight, my router sees the static ip now. But I still have no internet |
| 14:53.04 | GJdan | other computers work fine |
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| 14:54.51 | petemc | GJdan: can you ping the router? |
| 14:55.15 | GJdan | lol N-I-L asked earlier. I can't seem to find how :\ |
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| 14:55.36 | N-I-L | i didnt ask |
| 14:55.46 | wols | GJdan: you also need to set DNS when you go static normally |
| 14:55.51 | petemc | GJdan: do you know the routers ip address? |
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| 14:55.55 | GJdan | oh right I see, was wols |
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| 14:56.28 | N-I-L | i asked wols if there should be a reservation in dhcp |
| 14:56.30 | GJdan | hmm up till now I've never had to touch router settings for anything except port forwarding |
| 14:56.41 | GJdan | I do |
| 14:56.49 | GJdan | do you mean the default gateway, or the external ip? |
| 14:56.59 | petemc | the gateway |
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| 14:57.13 | N-I-L | 192.168.0.1 i would think in this case. right? |
| 14:57.18 | GJdan | yes |
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| 14:57.25 | nsadmin | gateway being a relative term... |
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| 14:57.33 | GJdan | true enough |
| 14:57.43 | petemc | is it? |
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| 14:58.01 | nsadmin | it's relative to the subnet it serves |
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| 14:58.13 | petemc | and how is that relevant here? |
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| 14:58.44 | gary_golden | How to convert maxmind geoip .dat files to csv ? |
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| 14:59.48 | GJdan | k, I went out on a limb and assumed you meant to run ping 192.168.0.1 from debian, I can ping 192.168.0.1 |
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| 14:59.57 | petemc | GJdan: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
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| 15:00.33 | GJdan | yes |
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| 15:00.47 | petemc | GJdan: can you ping google.com ? |
| 15:01.08 | GJdan | no |
| 15:01.27 | nsadmin | ability to ping 8.8.8.8 indicates your network is up |
| 15:01.34 | petemc | GJdan: check /etc/resolv.conf , it needs to contain a line like "nameserver 192.168.0.1" |
| 15:01.37 | N-I-L | so flush your dns after making sure you have a reservation in dhcp and have assigned the ip locally. |
| 15:02.00 | nsadmin | inability to ping google (by name) indicates the dns is not set up properly |
| 15:02.01 | N-I-L | that seems logical to me |
| 15:02.04 | GJdan | are there some routers that require you to configure things in router settings to use static ips? |
| 15:02.24 | GJdan | k, I'll check that |
| 15:02.39 | petemc | GJdan: not usually, as long as the address doesnt conflict with one it will give out via dhcp |
| 15:04.01 | GJdan | resolv.conf does contain a line that says nameserver 192.168.0.1 |
| 15:04.17 | petemc | GJdan: try adding one below that, "nameserver 8.8.8.8" |
| 15:04.53 | GJdan | k |
| 15:05.03 | GJdan | oh, I can ping google now |
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| 15:05.58 | GJdan | what is 8.8.8.8? |
| 15:06.04 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.14 | GJdan | oh :\ hmm |
| 15:06.16 | nsadmin | I think it's google's dns that it offers publically |
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| 15:07.08 | GJdan | so then I have to set up my dns properly? |
| 15:07.24 | GJdan | would that be done in interfaces? |
| 15:07.30 | petemc | GJdan: you can continue to use googles dns server |
| 15:07.38 | GJdan | ehh, I guess so >.< |
| 15:08.20 | petern_ | if you trust google ;) |
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| 15:09.24 | GJdan | it seems slow lolol compared to the other comps |
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| 15:11.56 | GJdan | aight, it works though as well as switching in my existing dns addresses |
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| 15:12.23 | GJdan | resolv.conf says it was generated though. Will it not be overwritten sometime if it's regenerated? |
| 15:12.49 | petemc | only if you use dhcp |
| 15:13.04 | GJdan | ah, so if I have a static ip set up it's fine |
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| 15:15.10 | GJdan | should I remove the 192.168.0.1 dns that didn't work? |
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| 15:21.43 | Vespakoen | i cant connect to my asxi box while its still running and pingable |
| 15:21.48 | Vespakoen | any clues what this could be ? |
| 15:21.53 | GJdan | aight, I'll assume yes. one last question and thanks for the help so far |
| 15:22.08 | GJdan | actually, nvm I'll experiment |
| 15:22.08 | Vespakoen | my connection got lost while installing |
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| 15:22.43 | webdawg | How do I use a package from sid? |
| 15:22.54 | nsadmin | run sid |
| 15:23.09 | webdawg | So upgrade entire distro right? |
| 15:23.26 | nsadmin | well see that's not actually recommended |
| 15:23.36 | webdawg | heh |
| 15:23.41 | webdawg | So. How do I do it then? |
| 15:23.47 | nsadmin | sid will be annoying in its brokenness |
| 15:23.54 | Vespakoen | anyone has an idea, all my servers are down now =( =P |
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| 15:24.12 | Vespakoen | NVM its back up |
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| 15:24.58 | nsadmin | trying to install a sid package on (what do you have?) would potentially cause a partial upgrade due to deps |
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| 15:25.08 | webdawg | Thats fine. |
| 15:25.18 | webdawg | I run squeeze...how do I do it though. |
| 15:25.24 | webdawg | Just install one package and its deps. |
| 15:25.29 | webdawg | From sid. |
| 15:26.08 | nsadmin | why would the package from squeeze not work? |
| 15:26.09 | petemc | webdawg: you could look for a backport or attempt to backport it yourself |
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| 15:28.02 | nsadmin | webdawg: do you have a solid backup plan? |
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| 15:28.21 | petemc | Vespakoen: how are you trying to connect ? |
| 15:28.21 | nsadmin | and are you running that plan? |
| 15:28.51 | GJdan | now using sudo results in "sudo: unable to resolve host gjdan" |
| 15:28.59 | GJdan | it still works though |
| 15:29.00 | webdawg | Yeh. |
| 15:29.02 | webdawg | Listen. |
| 15:29.09 | webdawg | If it kills my system no problem. |
| 15:29.23 | webdawg | I just want to know how to upgrade that single package and its deps. |
| 15:29.24 | Vespakoen | petemc, never mind, suddenly i could connect again, i think the system was hanging for a while |
| 15:29.28 | themill | webdawg: what package? |
| 15:29.43 | webdawg | znc but what does it matter? |
| 15:29.54 | webdawg | http://packages.debian.org/sid/znc |
| 15:30.04 | nsadmin | because someday after doing something like what you're proposing, you're going to come in here and say: "how do I downgrade the sid stuff back to squeeze" and someone is going to say "restore from backup or wipe and reinstall. did you separate your /home?" |
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| 15:30.27 | webdawg | I. |
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| 15:30.31 | webdawg | Would like to know. |
| 15:30.34 | webdawg | How to do it. |
| 15:30.37 | webdawg | Please. |
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| 15:30.40 | themill | dpkg: tell webdawg about ssb |
| 15:31.08 | themill | hmm... actually, znc is not trivially backportable. You'll have to do some work. |
| 15:31.18 | nsadmin | is not the one who's going to get into that |
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| 15:32.02 | webdawg | Heh. |
| 15:32.18 | webdawg | It seems easier to compile it myself. |
| 15:32.43 | webdawg | Dammit. |
| 15:32.52 | nsadmin | that's what a ssb is with the addition that an ssb also packages the result |
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| 15:35.28 | webdawg | nsadmin: do I keep my old deb-src line? |
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| 15:46.03 | WhitePelican | how do I install kde in debian testing? |
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| 15:48.25 | themill | WhitePelican: /msg dpkg install kde |
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| 15:49.51 | WhitePelican | themill, I meant, is there a meta package that installs all of kde in testing? |
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| 15:50.02 | themill | did you read what dpkg said? |
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| 15:50.44 | Guest17896 | anyway I might as well here too, well I'm trying to evade tweetdeck (Adobe AIR) any propositions regarding a twitter client? |
| 15:50.53 | bint | whats the default app to extract tar.gz archives on squeeze? |
| 15:51.20 | nsadmin | tar |
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| 15:51.38 | nsadmin | man tar or info tar for details |
| 15:51.51 | linduxed | bint: can't say i know of any other tool used than tar |
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| 15:51.53 | themill | bint: "default" meaning what? Do you mean the default if you happen to install the gnome desktop? file-roller (I think) |
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| 15:52.02 | linduxed | bint: it's the standard |
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| 15:52.15 | systemclient | what is the php-simpletest package good for if it does not include the simpletest/autorun.php? |
| 15:52.35 | bint | linux_probe |
| 15:52.36 | bint | ahh thx |
| 15:52.38 | bint | i just did a mistake |
| 15:52.58 | nsadmin | systemclient, ask the maint after you try it |
| 15:53.03 | bint | i went for tar xjf and thats for .bz files |
| 15:53.09 | bint | but using xvf works fine :) |
| 15:53.20 | systemclient | nsadmin: I tried to use the package, but it is missing a lot of stuff :-/ |
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| 15:54.24 | themill | !dbugs 614641 |
| 15:54.30 | dpkg | DONE:#614641:N[ftp.debian.org] RM: php-simpletest -- RoQA; unused, orphaned, no revdeps (); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:39:25 UTC [] |
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| 15:55.53 | WhitePelican | ty, themill |
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| 15:58.42 | WhitePelican | for me next question :) I seem to have an issue with my webcam not working properly in Skype or cheese. It works in cheese but the image is messed up. any ideas? |
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| 16:08.53 | smooki | hmmm I can't get sudo working ?! |
| 16:09.10 | cantido | smooki: not working == ?? |
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| 16:09.16 | smooki | command not found |
| 16:09.17 | N-I-L | smooki: whats happening exactly? |
| 16:09.50 | smooki | well command not found |
| 16:10.02 | kuznetzvo-afk | ./msg dpkg sudo |
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| 16:10.46 | twobitsprite | bash: ./msg: No such file or directory |
| 16:10.47 | twobitsprite | :P |
| 16:10.55 | smooki | msg command not found for sure ^^ |
| 16:11.11 | kuznetzvo-afk | that distant bang you just heard was a facepalm |
| 16:11.31 | somiaj | twobitsprite: sudo dosen't have to be installed by default depending your setup. apt-get install sudo |
| 16:11.38 | skiy1337 | Hi. I'm having trouble signing my first debian package. Please take a look: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wXqXzPai |
| 16:11.39 | kuznetzvo-afk | hi somiaj :) |
| 16:11.48 | N-I-L | somiaj: thats what i was thinking. |
| 16:11.52 | twobitsprite | somiaj: I think you meant someone else |
| 16:12.01 | smooki | done thanks somiaj |
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| 16:12.04 | somiaj | twobitsprite: oh yea smooki check my comment. (: |
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| 16:12.36 | somiaj | smooki: afterwards add yourself to the sudo group, 'adduser username sudo' -- then log out and back in to get sudo privlages |
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| 16:13.40 | smooki | somiaj I do this like this event if the account allready exists ? |
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| 16:13.59 | kuznetzvo-afk | afk a bit biological issues |
| 16:14.25 | nsadmin | sounds... global... |
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| 16:14.51 | inad922 | hello |
| 16:14.59 | smooki | -_- |
| 16:15.04 | inad922 | How can I check which files a package installs? |
| 16:15.09 | somiaj | smooki: correct, because even if the user exists doesn't mean he is in the sudo groups. You can type 'groups' to see what groups you are in first to make sure you wern't put in it by default |
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| 16:15.15 | somiaj | inad922: dpkg -L <pkg name> |
| 16:15.24 | inad922 | thanks somiaj |
| 16:15.46 | somiaj | inad922: if you don't have the package installed look at apt-file -- you can also view the contents on packages.debian.org |
| 16:15.55 | smooki | somiaj is this for to be able to use sudo ? cause it allready works |
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| 16:18.00 | somiaj | smooki: well then you must be in the sudo group at creation. Yes not every user is given the ability to run sudo, the default debian package wants you to put the allowed users in that group. |
| 16:18.46 | somiaj | of course you can customize it how ever you want by running visudo and modifing the suders file. |
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| 16:19.09 | Jay8 | anybody know a cmd in debian to disable apache? |
| 16:19.11 | smooki | ok I can edit /etc/sudoers I see |
| 16:19.33 | somiaj | smooki: NO you cannot edit /etc/suders directally. Run visudo to edit it indirectally. |
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| 16:19.50 | somiaj | Jay8: what do you mean disable? So it doesn't start at boot. 'update-rc.d apache2 disable' |
| 16:19.54 | smooki | ok |
| 16:20.20 | somiaj | smooki: the file doesn't have write primisions for obvious reasons (security) |
| 16:20.30 | smooki | I understand that |
| 16:21.01 | smooki | so username ALL(ALL) ALL ? |
| 16:21.02 | Jay8 | somiaj: I think I fucked something up on my last config of apache and now I have a script that does that and everything else I need to do with the server so I want to use that, but to setup the new apache I need to old one to be disabled |
| 16:21.05 | Jay8 | or so it tells me |
| 16:21.46 | somiaj | Jay8: then I have no idea what you mean. If you want to just stop it from running so you can run the script, /etc/init.d/apache2 stop |
| 16:22.08 | Jay8 | I don't know what I mean either |
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| 16:22.30 | Jay8 | I'm setting up rtorrent with rutorrent web UI on my new dedi |
| 16:22.35 | somiaj | Jay8: but I don't know what this 'script' you speak of is from or is supose to do except 'everything thing else you need' and I wouldnt' use thrid party tools to manage things on debian. |
| 16:23.11 | Jay8 | http://forums.rutorrent.org/index.php?topic=608.0 |
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| 16:23.16 | Jay8 | under the 3rd code box |
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| 16:24.02 | Jay8 | do you see what I need to do now somiaj? :\ |
| 16:24.13 | Jay8 | I've been trying to get this to work all day |
| 16:24.29 | somiaj | Jay8: if you don't need apache, I'd just uninstall it |
| 16:24.44 | somiaj | Jay8: again I personally try to avoid non debian package installers since I am a fan of dpkg |
| 16:24.54 | Jay8 | well I do need it, but this new thing will install it for me |
| 16:25.00 | Jay8 | how do I remove it? |
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| 16:25.42 | somiaj | Jay8: I'm going to leave that up to you. Again I wouldn't be letting a third party install apache on my servers. |
| 16:26.01 | somiaj | Jay8: use apt-get, aptitiude to manage software isntalls and removes. |
| 16:26.06 | jmarsden | Jay8: Use the standard Debian package management tools, such as aptitude |
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| 16:26.20 | Jay8 | is there no simple cmd? |
| 16:26.28 | Jay8 | I really hate this linux stuff |
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| 16:26.38 | nsadmin | then don't run it |
| 16:26.47 | Jay8 | I obviously need to |
| 16:26.51 | somiaj | Jay8: there is, but I would suggest you read up on the two commands I mentioned, 'apt-get' or 'aptitude' |
| 16:27.00 | nsadmin | why is it obvious? |
| 16:27.28 | somiaj | Jay8: and get a bit familar with debian package management before just bliding following irc suggetions to 'remove' things with 'apt-get' |
| 16:27.31 | Jay8 | because if I hate it I wouldn't be stupid enough to *choose* to use it if I had a choice not to |
| 16:28.02 | nsadmin | well |
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| 16:28.34 | nsadmin | if you don't have a choice you need to learn the shell |
| 16:28.35 | somiaj | Jay8: again we won't be able to help you if this script messes things up and so I am hoping you get some basic knowledge of admin tools so you can fix anything you need to if the script has issues. |
| 16:28.49 | Jay8 | somiaj: I have zero interest in knowing the first thing about debian package management, I just want this seedbox up. My friend is going to config things again in 3 weeks when he's back from the USA |
| 16:29.18 | Jay8 | if the scripts messes anything up I'll re-format the box |
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| 16:29.23 | nsadmin | Jay8, then you need to pay an assistant who is familiar tith it |
| 16:30.01 | Jay8 | I need to set up one thing and never touch it again |
| 16:30.16 | nsadmin | then find out how and then do it |
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| 16:30.42 | Jay8 | I only need to know one cmd, which is what I came here to find out -.- |
| 16:30.51 | Jay8 | I have enough to learn in C++ |
| 16:31.12 | nsadmin | there is docs. I' NOT AT ALL WILLING to help anyone who is resistant to being helped. |
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| 16:31.20 | nsadmin | got it? |
| 16:31.29 | Jay8 | lol, resistant to being helped? |
| 16:31.36 | nsadmin | yes. you. |
| 16:31.37 | Jay8 | either tell me the cmd or don't |
| 16:31.40 | JasonWoof | you can't administer a system without being willing to learn something about how it works |
| 16:31.47 | somiaj | Jay8: you have been told the command multiple times. |
| 16:31.51 | Jay8 | I'm not trying to administer any system |
| 16:31.57 | JasonWoof | Jay8: you were told a command as soon as you asked your question |
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| 16:32.22 | JasonWoof | Jay8: that's the problem. you want your system administered, but you don't want to do it |
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| 16:32.43 | Jay8 | no, I don't |
| 16:32.45 | JasonWoof | Jay8: that's why people are getting frustrated with you. people are telling you how to go about it and you don't want to do it |
| 16:32.50 | Jay8 | I'm installing one package |
| 16:32.54 | JasonWoof | Jay8: if you don't like what we're telling you to do, go ask elsewhere |
| 16:32.55 | nsadmin | and by the way the negative attitude that is leaking from you and into the channel is increasingly unwelcome |
| 16:33.10 | Jay8 | ... |
| 16:33.24 | JasonWoof | we're being as helpful as we know how. if that doesn't work for you, please try to find folks who think/talk in a different way. |
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| 16:35.08 | nsadmin | if you're being forced to do something you don't want to do and then go into a separate place and demand help without being really fucking polite is about as stupid as it's possible to be without being a government official |
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| 16:35.38 | nsadmin | it's not our fault or doing that you have to do this, and we don't have to hold your hand |
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| 16:37.32 | Jay8 | nsadmin: chill out dude |
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| 16:38.05 | Jay8 | I know somiaj gave me the cmd when I joined, I was just talking to him about it.. |
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| 16:38.21 | Jay8 | and ty somiaj :> |
| 16:39.07 | nsadmin | thanks for calming down |
| 16:39.33 | Jay8 | I wasn't un-calm, you must have been mistaken |
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| 16:40.15 | somiaj | Jay8: I have no interest in just helping you install a thrid party script that I have no clue what it does, espically if you have no interest in learning. I would go ask one of the rutorrent people who know this install precedure and ask what they mean by 'disable'. They can then probabaly give you the command that will most likely work |
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| 16:41.20 | somiaj | Jay8: If the package was in debian and tested to work well with debian by the debian matainers, that would be another story. So you should ask for help somewhere were people have experience with rutorrent. |
| 16:41.21 | Jay8 | just wanted a cmd, which you gave me, which worked |
| 16:41.57 | somiaj | Jay8: (: -- well hopefully that script does its thing, if not the rutorrent people will be the better place to ask. |
| 16:42.24 | Jay8 | indeed, ty |
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| 17:08.25 | astrostl | trying to make a package with dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage. the package has a makefile, with 'make' (to build) and 'make install' (to install). that is everything. i have set "build: make" per my guess from reading the docs, but it yields "make[2]: *** No rule to make target `w'. Stop." |
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| 17:08.47 | astrostl | actually, it looks like it's running 'sh' and that perl isn't in its path either? (this is a perl thing, but not CPAN) |
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| 17:11.34 | tharkun | Gentlemen I've tested quite a few pdf viewers, I am having some isues regarding noise on the image when comparing it to a windows pdf viewer, Can someone suggest aditional options or a way to find all of them using aptitude |
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| 17:13.46 | somiaj | astrostl: does the source compile if you avoid the debian packing thing. i.e. does './configure && make' work |
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| 17:13.54 | somiaj | astrostl: if not figure out what is wrong with the source and/or missing libs |
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| 17:14.08 | n-iCe | hi, is it possible that 3.0 kernel have any bug about temperature in laptops? i think the fan isn't working well and temp is going up and up, overheat |
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| 17:15.08 | astrostl | it doesn't have a configure script |
| 17:15.10 | tharkun | n-iCe: first try cleaning the fan with a burst of compressed air. |
| 17:15.12 | astrostl | it is just make; make install |
| 17:15.14 | astrostl | that works fine |
| 17:15.32 | astrostl | i'm trying to force dpkg-buildpackage to be stupid about it |
| 17:15.42 | astrostl | by default it is trying autoclean, configure, yadayadayada |
| 17:16.02 | somiaj | n-iCe: yes its possible. have you tried older kenerls that don't have this issue? |
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| 17:16.17 | somiaj | astrostl: don't do the make install of course to test...(: |
| 17:16.38 | somiaj | astrostl: so I take it y ou ran dh_make to create the debian/, what command did you run for that? |
| 17:16.41 | astrostl | the issue is not with compilation or installation |
| 17:16.57 | astrostl | dh_make --createorig -s -p "$app" |
| 17:17.08 | astrostl | with DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME set appropriately |
| 17:17.23 | astrostl | it populates debian/ |
| 17:17.27 | astrostl | i modify the changelog, etc. |
| 17:17.39 | astrostl | the issue is that it is trying to do all kinds of stuff; i just want it to run 'make' and 'make install' |
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| 17:18.18 | n-iCe | tharkun: I just bought the fan is new |
| 17:18.22 | n-iCe | somiaj: no, I don't know hw |
| 17:18.53 | somiaj | astrostl: no you do not want it to run make install |
| 17:19.14 | somiaj | astrostl: you want it to run make, then package the resulting binaries into a debian package (: |
| 17:19.20 | astrostl | okay |
| 17:19.42 | somiaj | astrostl: I'm no expert here,b ut I think you need a '-b' flag in dh_make to tell it to use 'sane defaults' |
| 17:20.05 | astrostl | dpkg-buildpackage you mean? |
| 17:20.08 | astrostl | i'm using -b (binary) |
| 17:20.09 | somiaj | n-iCe: well how did you install this new 3.0 kernel? In squeeze the kernel is 2.6.32 |
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| 17:21.06 | tharkun | n-iCe: as somiaj allready stated, try debugging any isue with a standard debian kernel, then you can hop on to the 3.x series :D |
| 17:22.06 | n-iCe | somiaj: 3.0.0-1-amd64 |
| 17:22.09 | n-iCe | testing |
| 17:22.26 | somiaj | n-iCe: are you running testing or are you running stable -- yes testing is known to be buggy. |
| 17:22.37 | somiaj | n-iCe: you have to check the bts for the actual bugs that have been found though. |
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| 17:23.50 | somiaj | astrostl: there is a lot that needs to be generated but there is a simple system. there is the '-b' option (new in dh_make) that replaces the old cdbs build option. Though I think with the newer debconf there is a better choice than -b but I forget what it is |
| 17:24.07 | somiaj | astrostl: http://build-common.alioth.debian.org/cdbs-doc.html |
| 17:24.10 | astrostl | i think i'm just going to skip dh_make... |
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| 17:24.28 | somiaj | well if there isn't a debian/ dir and you want to make a debian package, you can't. |
| 17:24.47 | somiaj | astrostl: if you jsut want to install the software and not care about using a debian package, just 'make install' and putting it into /usr/local is jsut fine. (: |
| 17:24.49 | tharkun | takes a 10,000 W laser and begins to tatoo dh_make options on somiaj retina |
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| 17:25.19 | iPod-nano | How can I copy the debian netinst image to a USB HDD to install on a netbook? There doesn't seem to be much information online pertaining to non-Live distributions. |
| 17:26.01 | gfrlog | I'm just starting with debian, used to ubuntu where something like "apt-get install svn" would generally work without any configuration. I'm looking at http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/subversion and trying to figure out what I need to add to my sources list... |
| 17:26.07 | tharkun | iPod-nano: you will have to make a bootable disk, take a look at unetbooting most of the work will be automagically don |
| 17:26.10 | tharkun | e |
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| 17:26.42 | somiaj | gfrlog: you just need the basic squeeze sources. HOw about give us a copy of your sources.list |
| 17:26.50 | somiaj | gfrlog: use a pastebin |
| 17:27.10 | gfrlog | somiaj: http://pastie.org/2509545 |
| 17:27.12 | iPod-nano | tharkun, and this will work with a non-flash disk drive? |
| 17:27.35 | gfrlog | you know.... |
| 17:27.47 | gfrlog | I think the answer was contained in my question. |
| 17:27.57 | gfrlog | I need to call it "subversion" rather than "svn". |
| 17:28.02 | gfrlog | augh, sorry for wasting time :) |
| 17:28.08 | somiaj | gfrlog: (: |
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| 17:29.18 | somiaj | iPod-nano: the .iso image can be put on a cd/dvd or a usb device. you can just dd the image onto the device, but it will destory any data that is on it. If you want to put the image alongside other data on the device it will be more work |
| 17:30.32 | somiaj | hmm, doesn't the dh7 setup with a blank debian/rules script prefered over using the cdbs for just trying to build a source into package. can't seem to find google info on the dh7 |
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| 17:31.49 | iPod-nano | No good. It doesn't see my drive. It's a 2.5" SATA drive connected via a USB converter, not a jump drive. |
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| 17:34.16 | iPod-nano | I don't understand why jump drives will work but real drives won't. |
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| 17:35.08 | tharkun | iPod-nano: What difference does it make the technology under the /dev/sda device, it is indeed still a file :D |
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| 17:35.35 | iPod-nano | tharkun, oh by the way, I'm using Windows Vista. |
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| 17:35.59 | somiaj | iPod-nano: sounds like its an issue with your sata -> usb converter or the drive. what does dmesg say when you plug the drive in |
| 17:36.07 | tharkun | iPod-nano: there is a windows version of unetbootin, I just don't know if it works on vista or not |
| 17:36.46 | iPod-nano | I have three computers that actually work: One laptop running Vista, one old Apple PowerBook running OS X 10.5, and my headless server running Debian... 5 I think. |
| 17:36.50 | studiofenix | unetbootin -> tested with XP and Win7 and it works, should work on vista |
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| 17:37.03 | iPod-nano | Of these, only the laptops have USB 2.0. |
| 17:37.40 | iPod-nano | Windows and OS X have no problems recognizing or talking to the SATA drive. I can read/write files with no issue. |
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| 17:38.00 | iPod-nano | The Windows version of unetbootin, for some reason, refuses to recognize the drive. |
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| 17:41.07 | iPod-nano | Of course, the Mac version of unetbootin is Intel-only and I have a PowerPC. |
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| 17:43.56 | dashs | What is the definition of 'boot_facility' on the insserv man page? |
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| 17:44.30 | sylar | how to flashblock epiphany? |
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| 17:46.03 | mosno | sylar: tried this? http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/FlashBlock |
| 17:46.12 | mosno | first hit on the googles |
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| 17:46.35 | fm\Bret | Hi there, could someone tell me the correct wget command to download all files of a certain type in one directory? I want to download all of the .zip files from one of my servers via wget and download them to another. wget -r doesnt really help and gives me all of the directory structure. Any help would be appreciated! |
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| 17:47.22 | sylar | mosno, yes I tried. The first don't work because the script is not good enough, I guess, the second don't work c |
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| 17:47.39 | sylar | because on squeeze epiphany is not gecko |
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| 17:49.52 | Ryccardo | [joke] What is the difference between "format c: /autotest /q" and "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda &" ?? |
| 17:50.06 | Ryccardo | On Linux you can do other things at the same time. |
| 17:50.41 | mosno | fires up an XP VM to test the former |
| 17:50.56 | ProGenY | any one around using 'iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp --source 1.2.3.4 --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 9090' but no luck any sugestions ? |
| 17:51.34 | thewanderer1 | Ryccardo: lucky me, I netboot :) |
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| 17:52.02 | Ryccardo | :) |
| 17:52.10 | mosno | Ryccardo: "Invalid parameter - /autotest" |
| 17:52.19 | dkr | ProGenY: iptables -vLn -t nat an check packet counts for that particular chain, maybe it's getting caught by an earlier rule. also ##networking |
| 17:52.27 | Ryccardo | mosno: that was in the DOS & win98 times |
| 17:52.39 | mosno | hmm |
| 17:52.53 | sylar | lol |
| 17:53.04 | mosno | sylar: you used BlockFlash2 or another script? |
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| 17:53.17 | alazare619 | anyone find it funny that most people run xp or seven with a linux vm but yet we..run xp in a vm :P |
| 17:53.29 | sylar | mosno, I used BlockFlash2 |
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| 17:53.59 | dkr | alazare619: I doubt "most people" do that. :) |
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| 17:57.16 | ProGenY | dkr: both counts in/out are 0 ill try ##networking thnx |
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| 17:58.10 | sylar | There has to be someone here that use debian stable ... |
| 17:58.25 | sylar | and epiphany .. |
| 17:58.31 | sylar | and block flash |
| 17:59.00 | dkr | that would have made a lot more sense in a single sentence |
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| 18:00.27 | alazare619 | dkr: i run a vm of linux on my xp partition and a vm of xp on my linux partition using virtualbox's live partition mounting thing cant remember the name of it |
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| 18:00.42 | alazare619 | so i dual but but can access my other partition live through vm :P |
| 18:00.51 | alazare619 | boot* |
| 18:01.18 | astrostl | !heredoc |
| 18:01.21 | astrostl | oops |
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| 18:10.38 | gkffjcs__ | Hey all, I am planing on installing debian/kFreeBSD on my new 64bit home server/file server. I would like to run a virtual host on the system aswell. I am looking into virtualization tools, but am confused about which ones are supported on debian/kfreebsd. It appears that FreeBSD has a port of virtualbox, does this mean that there is likewise one for debian/kFreebsd? if not, are there other vm solutions which are a: free, and b: |
| 18:10.39 | gkffjcs__ | capable of running on debina/kFreeBSD? |
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| 18:19.16 | ProGenY | nm fixed it |
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| 18:20.37 | dkr | alazare619: I hadn't heard of this live partition thing. pretty neat idea. I also have dual boot, but haven't booted into windows in over a year and just occasionally use a virtualbox image |
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| 18:27.04 | ahoneybun | anyone think the installer could be better? |
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| 18:28.49 | dashs | A kernel update has triggered a kernel traceback from google-chrome paging events. http://pastebin.com/MkfhRZSx |
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| 18:30.39 | smw | ahoneybun, the debian installer? Hell no |
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| 18:31.00 | smw | ahoneybun, I wish redhat would use it :-) |
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| 18:32.59 | alazare619 | ya dkr its actually pretty easy to setup in nix i had a harder time making the live partition of my nix one show to my windows host |
| 18:33.23 | alazare619 | had to install some special driver to get it to see ext4 to begin with |
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| 18:39.00 | ahoneybun | smw, it is well done, but maybe add some more control for partitioning? |
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| 18:40.00 | smw | ahoneybun, what type of control? I am sure that you could make some improvements :-) |
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| 18:40.16 | ahoneybun | alazare619, my extral hdd is formatted to ext4 and it is not shown in windows by default |
| 18:40.35 | ahoneybun | smw, like the ubuntu installer, with the sliders? |
| 18:40.59 | smw | ahoneybun, no, the debian one is so easy to use and automate |
| 18:40.59 | echo083 | maybe it's obvious i admit i didn't search, cat A B > A how to achieve without using an intermediate file because A is flushed before the cat is started |
| 18:41.12 | smw | ahoneybun, even when I use ubuntu, I install using the debian installer |
| 18:41.31 | ahoneybun | smw, archlinux installer with what is it, ch something |
| 18:42.03 | Bushmills | echo083: cat B >> A |
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| 18:42.09 | ahoneybun | smw, nevermind it does seem good. |
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| 18:42.52 | ahoneybun | smw, I'm going to install debian 6 then switch to wheezy |
| 18:43.02 | ahoneybun | smw, when I get home |
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| 18:43.15 | echo083 | Bushmills, no i need A ! the full command is complex si i didn't write it here and use something lighter let's say mycommand A B > A |
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| 18:43.41 | smw | ahoneybun, I am thinking of doing that too. I am an ubuntu user who is thinking of using real debian :-) |
| 18:43.49 | echo083 | Bushmills, i need A for my command and write the result in A without using an intermediary file |
| 18:43.49 | Bushmills | sorry, i didn't replay to a question you did *not* ask. instead i replied to what you actually asked |
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| 18:43.55 | Bushmills | reply |
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| 18:44.12 | smw | ahoneybun, but I have extended experience with the ubuntu version of the debian installer (automating it and stuff) |
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| 18:45.03 | ompaul | unity is not the DI ;-) |
| 18:45.21 | Bushmills | echo083: you'll understand that i'm not going to try to understand what you're asking now, because you might want something entirely different again |
| 18:45.22 | ahoneybun | smw, I have Ubuntu 11.04 right now, and have been with Arch and Fedora but keep thinking of going to Debian, but rethinking it for the reason of open source drivers for java |
| 18:45.35 | ahoneybun | ompaul, DI? |
| 18:45.39 | ompaul | debian installer |
| 18:45.52 | ahoneybun | ompaul, oh, ok |
| 18:45.57 | cantido | ahoneybun: open source drives for java? |
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| 18:46.04 | bint | anybody knows a good website that explains the mail function of debian |
| 18:46.11 | cantido | ahoneybun: s/for/or/ ? |
| 18:46.19 | astrostl | O M F G i hate making debian packages >:( |
| 18:46.20 | bint | if someone trys to execute commands with insufficent rights and stuff |
| 18:46.21 | Bushmills | bint: "the mail function"? |
| 18:46.27 | echo083 | Bushmills, it was not correctly asked to start with I agree, "again" it's only the second time and it's an open chan you are free to ignore my new request |
| 18:46.28 | ahoneybun | cantido, no, the nvidia drivers, not nouvea |
| 18:46.30 | bint | yes sometimes it sais: a mail has been sent to the admin |
| 18:46.33 | astrostl | was trying dh_make, punted to manual a la http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging |
| 18:46.36 | Bushmills | coming up with a name of an actual program would be helpful |
| 18:46.38 | cantido | ahoneybun: nvidia works fine in debian |
| 18:46.44 | astrostl | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `w'. Stop. |
| 18:46.46 | astrostl | any ideas? |
| 18:46.47 | bint | its acutally "mail" i think |
| 18:46.48 | cantido | ahoneybun: java also works fine |
| 18:46.53 | astrostl | this package has: 'make' and 'make install' |
| 18:46.59 | astrostl | not even a configure script. that's it. it's just perl. |
| 18:47.07 | Bushmills | ah. it has a man page |
| 18:47.13 | ahoneybun | cantido, for minecraft it does not give the best performance, the real nvidia driver is better there |
| 18:47.18 | bint | man: can't resolve /usr/share/man/man1/mail.1.gz: No such file or directory |
| 18:47.29 | cantido | ahoneybun: debian has the non-free nvidia driver |
| 18:47.50 | ahoneybun | cantido, I don't know its name. |
| 18:48.06 | ahoneybun | cantido, its in the packages? install with aptitude? |
| 18:48.26 | cantido | ahoneybun: and the version of Java in debian can use that whatever glx is installed.. I'm doing dev with Java and OpenGL right now |
| 18:48.36 | cantido | ahoneybun: its in non-free, nvidia-glx etc |
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| 18:49.18 | ahoneybun | cantido, ok so "aptitude install nvidia-glx" is the real driver and will get rid of the open soucre one? |
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| 18:49.38 | cantido | tries to remember what the nvidia factoid is.. |
| 18:49.47 | ahoneybun | cantido, what do i add to sources.list to get to non-free? |
| 18:49.51 | twobitsprite | !nvidia |
| 18:49.51 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. See <nvidia lenny> for oldstable. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:49.57 | Bushmills | bint: there's something wrong. look what you got with ls /usr/share/man/man1/mail* |
| 18:50.06 | cantido | has a poor memory apparently |
| 18:50.11 | twobitsprite | :P |
| 18:50.22 | ahoneybun | twobitsprite, thanks |
| 18:51.22 | cantido | ahoneybun: just because debian doesnt potentially illegally ship non-free stuff in main doesnt mean you can't install it |
| 18:52.00 | cantido | wonders how ship ended up over there |
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| 18:53.21 | JordiGH | One of my hardware sensors (core temp) doesn't seem to be working with backported linux. |
| 18:53.36 | ahoneybun | twobitsprite, I was on that page and believe "aptitude install nvidia-glx" will give me the official driver? |
| 18:53.38 | JordiGH | Is this just a limitation of the backported linux, or do I need to recompile a module or what? |
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| 18:54.01 | WhitePelican | since installing testing, certain apps do not work. one such app is gwenview. I had an idea to wipe my kde settings and try again, but not sure what to delete, can someone advise? |
| 18:54.08 | ahoneybun | cantido, I'm going to try to deal with the open source version of the driver first |
| 18:55.16 | ahoneybun | /usr/bin? |
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| 18:56.37 | thewanderer1 | WhitePelican: move .kde, try again, if it worked then you can be more selective... |
| 18:57.18 | WhitePelican | thewanderer1, is that the only folder? what about the kderc file? |
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| 18:57.38 | cantido | ahoneybun: the open source driver doesnt do any hardware rendering IIRC |
| 18:58.06 | cantido | ahoneybun: and you dont get VA-API support either I think.. the non-free drivers are easy enough to install |
| 18:58.15 | thewanderer1 | WhitePelican: I never noticed any improvement related to messing with that one :P |
| 18:58.25 | WhitePelican | gotcha :) |
| 18:58.58 | WhitePelican | I use xfce4 anyway, so I might as well just blow away the .kde folder |
| 18:59.11 | WhitePelican | I'll let you know what I screw up next :) |
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| 19:02.15 | xJaM | Hi everyone. I've recently installed Squeeze to small disc without any GUIs and have trouble with booting. Grub was installed succesfully but system do not want to boot from this disc. |
| 19:03.05 | xJaM | If I connect another disc (with Win 7), then Debian boots ... |
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| 19:03.23 | xJaM | I am not much familiar with the grub. |
| 19:03.29 | wols | !fixgrub |
| 19:03.30 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 19:03.37 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: The disk may be identified differently if a second disk is connected. |
| 19:03.52 | jhutchins_lt | Does it matter what other disk is connected? |
| 19:03.54 | xJaM | I guess it very nice loader, but sometime very unintuitive for newbies ... |
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| 19:04.17 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: Usually works without user intevention. |
| 19:04.29 | Jordan_U | xJaM: That pretty clearly suggests that grub's boot sector and embedded area are on the Disk containing Windows 7. |
| 19:04.35 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: We need to know what it displays when it doesn't boot, and what it displays when it does. |
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| 19:05.04 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: I take it the w7 disk was connected when you installed? |
| 19:05.09 | Jordan_U | xJaM: To change which drive grub gets installed to on updates of the grub-pc package run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc". |
| 19:05.13 | xJaM | Jordan_U : but I've installed Debian without Wins disc. |
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| 19:05.33 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: We need to know what it displays when it doesn't boot, and what it displays when it does. |
| 19:05.48 | xJaM | No jhutchins_It it was not connected, that is strange. |
| 19:06.06 | xJaM | Probably this disc is getting old. |
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| 19:06.14 | ahoneybun | !dual boot guide |
| 19:06.15 | dpkg | A guide for setting up dual booting with various combinations of Linux and Windows (XP, Vista, 7) can be found at http://apcmag.com/dualboot . The guide covers both Windows and Linux being installed first on the machine. Also ask me about <fixmbr>, <supergrub>. |
| 19:06.29 | Jordan_U | xJaM: Then I'm not sure what's happening. as jhutchins_lt mentioned we need more information. The RESUTS.txt from boot info script might also help: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ |
| 19:06.47 | WhitePelican | thewanderer1, that didn't work either, guess i'm going back to stable |
| 19:07.11 | xJaM | Yes, Jordan_U I know you need more info, but you must know I am pretty rusted on Linux(es) :) |
| 19:07.51 | xJaM | Two year ago I've managed to install Debian 5 with no problems with the KDE GUI, |
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| 19:08.13 | xJaM | Now I wanted to install with the GNOME. |
| 19:08.14 | jhutchins_lt | if he doesn't want to tell us what happens, I |
| 19:08.24 | jhutchins_lt | 'm not interested in his problem. |
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| 19:09.03 | wildc4rd | evenin all |
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| 19:09.18 | xJaM | Good evening wildc4rd |
| 19:10.12 | xJaM | Jordan_U I've tried to download bootinfoscript but unzip reported afterward zip file is not correct. |
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| 19:13.09 | ahoneybun | cantido, I want w7 for the soul purpose of netflix lol |
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| 19:16.03 | xJaM | For what purposes expirienced users do individual partition for /boot? |
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| 19:16.23 | cantido | ahoneybun: you cant do it in virtualbox with a windows xp vm? |
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| 19:18.07 | xJaM | During normal install I've also found that installing from CD mashine sometimes read very hard from CD, but installing via net install works better. |
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| 19:19.09 | ompaul | xJaM: do you have a specific question or do you want to write an opinion piece for linux journal? |
| 19:19.24 | xJaM | Of course I didn't do any checksums on iso files, but have tried to burn more rewritable CD. |
| 19:19.53 | xJaM | ompaul : I do not understand your question 1000% |
| 19:20.50 | ompaul | xJaM: this is not a chat channel it is a support channel, you were asked specific questions a long time ago you have talked about every other thing that happened, you never answered the questions |
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| 19:21.32 | ahoneybun | cantido, no xp cd. |
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| 19:21.55 | cantido | Who would have thought the installer would read from the CD drive when installing from CD.. damn |
| 19:22.06 | xJaM | ompaul : I see, sorry for that. I've said that I am a bit rusty on Linuxes (and of course I would like to answer if am able to) |
| 19:22.21 | cantido | ahoneybun: you can get xp vms for free IIRC.. from MS for testing with IE6 IIRC and then convert to virtualbox image ;) |
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| 19:23.22 | cantido | ahoneybun: what does netflix use that needs windows though? I thought it was browser/flash based |
| 19:23.29 | ahoneybun | cantido, try but I like 7 to be honest, just issues with my ext hdd being in ext4 format, need something that can be read from windows |
| 19:23.36 | twobitsprite | xJaM: you were asked the simple question about what you see when it doesn't boot, and what you see when it does... |
| 19:23.53 | cantido | ahoneybun: windows supports fat32 apparently |
| 19:23.55 | ahoneybun | cantido, there is drm on it and silverlight that is made by M$ |
| 19:24.05 | cantido | ahoneybun: ok, fair enough |
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| 19:24.22 | cantido | thought there was some mono silverlight thing happening |
| 19:24.39 | ahoneybun | cantido, I'll format when I get home, there is moonlight on linux that is like silverlight but the DRM is stopping it being used on linux |
| 19:25.06 | xJaM | twobitsprite : when it does not boot system says : THIS DISC NOT BOOTABLE etc. (or something similar - just like I would try to boot from empty disc.) |
| 19:25.53 | cantido | xJaM: have you configured the bios to boot from CD? |
| 19:26.01 | xJaM | I do not understand the MBR in full. How it workd under MS Windows or under Debian. |
| 19:26.12 | xJaM | cantido: Yes. |
| 19:26.32 | cantido | xJaM: hang on, are you installing from CD or booting an install you have just done? |
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| 19:26.40 | cantido | CDs dont have an MBR |
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| 19:26.56 | xJaM | I can boot for instance from Live CD for gNewSense and see Debian carrying system from there. |
| 19:27.10 | Bushmills | xJaM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record |
| 19:27.13 | twobitsprite | cantido: no, he installed to a drive, but the drive won't boot... but when he plugs in another drive with win7 then grub comes up and he can boot |
| 19:27.28 | cantido | twobitsprite: sounds like a shit bios |
| 19:27.39 | Sadistt0 | or crappy cd |
| 19:27.40 | xJaM | Yes, twobitsprite : exactly that! |
| 19:27.46 | ahoneybun | twobitsprite, grub install on the other drive |
| 19:27.53 | cantido | Sadistt0: why doesnt the cd matter? |
| 19:27.55 | ahoneybun | it happened to me |
| 19:28.01 | ahoneybun | boot to the debian |
| 19:28.22 | ahoneybun | and run "grub-install /dev/(whatever drive it is) |
| 19:28.28 | cantido | xJaM: Is this an older machine? I've actually seen a similar issue like 6 years ago |
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| 19:28.44 | ahoneybun | cantido, it is grub installed on the other drive |
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| 19:28.55 | xJaM | Yes candido it is - but do not laugh because of that :) |
| 19:28.57 | Sadistt0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.03 | Sadistt0 | PC* |
| 19:29.08 | cantido | ahoneybun: it could be that, some bios are also total shit |
| 19:29.23 | Vespakoen | Hej peeps! Mac OS X seems is not really working good together with PPTPD on debian, it connects but hangs up after a simple ls -la command |
| 19:29.30 | ahoneybun | cantido, happened with me on my laptop and installing debian |
| 19:29.41 | Vespakoen | any alternatives i can use to establish a vpn connection with the server park ? |
| 19:29.57 | cantido | Sadistt0: I'm guessing it actually says "NO BOOTABLE DISK" or similar.. the message the bios spits out is generic |
| 19:30.02 | ahoneybun | cantido, I needed my drive that i installed the debian to boot as it had my grub on it |
| 19:30.03 | Sadistt0 | maybe |
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| 19:30.22 | yakamo | is it possible to install emdebian easly onto a desktop machine |
| 19:30.25 | yakamo | ? |
| 19:30.29 | Sadistt0 | yup |
| 19:31.00 | yakamo | can you direct me to a website that has clear instructions as im not finding what i need on emdebian.org |
| 19:31.09 | yakamo | or im just being a noob at figureing it out |
| 19:31.10 | Sadistt0 | you can try to install on QEMU |
| 19:31.38 | yakamo | what does qemu do? |
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| 19:32.28 | yakamo | i want to have the smallest possible install |
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| 19:32.32 | yakamo | im open to other options |
| 19:33.22 | xJaM | How developers test Debian for installing? I guess the best thing is to have fresh machine with new discs and CD readers. But I would imagine that system like Debian is, might be a bit more robust (to say to forgive older hardware and such). |
| 19:33.22 | ompaul | yakamo: what do you mean smallest - smallest to do what? |
| 19:33.22 | ahoneybun | xJaM, boot in to debian. and run "grub-install /dev/whatever u have debian installed partition" |
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| 19:33.48 | yakamo | i want the most minimal install possible |
| 19:33.52 | ahoneybun | ompaul, maybe size wise? |
| 19:33.54 | Sadistt0 | yakamo: QEMU x86, PowerPC, ARM, 32-bit MIPS, Sparc32/64, ColdFire(m68k), CRISv32 and MicroBlaze CPUs are supported. |
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| 19:34.03 | EyesIsMine | E: Regex compilation error: Invalid preceding regular expression |
| 19:34.05 | EyesIsMine | Uh, what |
| 19:34.06 | xJaM | ahoneybun : I think that I've already done this, with no effect (but I will try more) |
| 19:34.24 | ahoneybun | xJaM, run fdisk -l as well |
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| 19:34.25 | cantido | yakamo: is it an x86 machine? |
| 19:34.31 | xJaM | ahoneybun : /dev/sda it is I think. |
| 19:34.37 | yakamo | yes x86 |
| 19:34.54 | xJaM | ahoneybun : This infor I get from fdisk -l, right? |
| 19:34.59 | xJaM | *info |
| 19:35.05 | cantido | yakamo: other than size is there any reason you want emdebian? |
| 19:35.20 | yakamo | pretty much just size |
| 19:35.20 | ahoneybun | xJaM, that would list your partitions |
| 19:35.26 | xJaM | ahoneybun : sorry I didn' see you last post :) |
| 19:35.27 | cantido | yakamo: you can get standard debian into 512MB if you try |
| 19:35.39 | Sadistt0 | even smaller |
| 19:35.41 | Sadistt0 | DSL |
| 19:35.44 | yakamo | i have debian install at around that size already |
| 19:35.48 | yakamo | but i want even smaller |
| 19:36.04 | ahoneybun | xJaM, "grub-install /dev/sda" ? |
| 19:36.08 | yakamo | my knowledge is limited at the moment |
| 19:36.13 | cantido | yakamo: do you have a target? |
| 19:36.22 | cantido | yakamo: you wont get debian into 4MB of flash |
| 19:36.26 | xJaM | ahoneybun : yes. |
| 19:36.34 | Sadistt0 | yakamo: you can try Damnsmall linux 50MB system based on debian |
| 19:36.40 | ahoneybun | xJaM, you have done that already? |
| 19:36.58 | yakamo | cantido: tiny as possible to be honest and use as little resources as possible |
| 19:37.01 | xJaM | ahoneybun : I think, yes (but as I've said before, I will try again) |
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| 19:37.10 | ahoneybun | Sadistt0, tiny core if you want like 10mb |
| 19:37.13 | yakamo | Sadistt0: can i modifiy that and add my normal apps |
| 19:37.21 | cantido | Sadistt0: if (s)he wants really small (s)he probably wants something that uses ulibc |
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| 19:37.26 | Sadistt0 | yakamo: i think so |
| 19:37.29 | ahoneybun | xJaM, reboot without the drive and see what it does |
| 19:37.53 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Which drive do you mean? CD? |
| 19:37.55 | Vespakoen | what are the VPN alternatives to PPTP ? |
| 19:38.03 | ompaul | Vespakoen: OpenVPN |
| 19:38.06 | Sadistt0 | Vespakoen: openvpn |
| 19:38.15 | yakamo | gona give that a look |
| 19:38.17 | ahoneybun | xJaM, what drive needs to be plugged in for it to normally boot>? |
| 19:38.20 | Vespakoen | openvpn requires quite some configuration right ? |
| 19:38.29 | Sadistt0 | yep |
| 19:38.31 | Bushmills | "quite some"? |
| 19:38.37 | Vespakoen | loads ? |
| 19:38.38 | Bushmills | it does need config, yes |
| 19:38.38 | ahoneybun | yakamo, depends on the dependieces of the app |
| 19:38.44 | xJaM | ahoneybun : A second disc with WIndows 7. |
| 19:38.49 | Vespakoen | is there an easier solution |
| 19:38.50 | Vespakoen | ? |
| 19:38.55 | ompaul | Vespakoen: depends on your needs, worth installing looking and running. |
| 19:38.56 | Bushmills | there are example configs one can use |
| 19:39.10 | kuznetzvo-afk | l2tp/ipsec |
| 19:39.15 | Vespakoen | it has to be secure, pptpd was allright but the mac didnt accept it |
| 19:39.17 | ompaul | Vespakoen: I can get the most basic version up in about 15 mins without sweating too much |
| 19:39.18 | yakamo | im gona be using xmonad and gcc |
| 19:39.21 | Vespakoen | looks like steve didnt like pptp or something |
| 19:39.23 | ahoneybun | xJaM, the cd with windows 7 lets it boot? that might mean that the windows booter is being used not grub |
| 19:39.33 | ompaul | Vespakoen: it is insecure |
| 19:39.38 | ompaul | your pptp |
| 19:39.41 | Vespakoen | okay |
| 19:39.44 | ompaul | insecure by design |
| 19:39.45 | xJaM | Has anyone tried to install GNU Hurd kernel? |
| 19:39.46 | Vespakoen | so openvpn is the way to go ? |
| 19:39.47 | Sadistt0 | Vespakoen: try to check the logs on server and resolve the problem |
| 19:39.55 | Sadistt0 | pptp is working on osx |
| 19:40.00 | Vespakoen | it does work |
| 19:40.02 | Vespakoen | but very bad! |
| 19:40.06 | ahoneybun | xJaM, nope, good old linux kernal for me |
| 19:40.08 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: We need to know what it displays when it doesn't boot, and what it displays when it does. |
| 19:40.15 | Vespakoen | on windows it runs smooth, mac os x makes it shit |
| 19:40.16 | ahoneybun | true |
| 19:40.23 | xJaM | ahoneybun : How is that possible if I installed Debian on a single disc without connected second didsc? |
| 19:40.34 | Vespakoen | anyways, i think openvpn will be better for mac, and more secure |
| 19:40.43 | Vespakoen | so ill just have to dig into the configuration |
| 19:40.47 | Bushmills | "it has to be secure" pptp != secure |
| 19:40.49 | ahoneybun | xJaM, you installed debian on a cd? |
| 19:41.16 | Vespakoen | pptp vs opening ssh or database port ? |
| 19:41.17 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Nope - on hard drive. |
| 19:41.24 | ahoneybun | xJaM, to be honest I'm not a expert, just trying to help |
| 19:41.35 | ahoneybun | xJaM, so what is installed on the HDD? |
| 19:41.37 | Bushmills | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.40 | Sadistt0 | Vespakoen: you need to install tunnelblick for vpn on your osx machine |
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| 19:41.45 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Yes, thank you for any help. I do apreciate. |
| 19:42.03 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: You've been at this for more than half an hour and still won't give us the basic information we need to solve your problem. We can keep guessing and trying random things, but if you won't tell us what's happening and do what we suggest it's going to be a long night. |
| 19:42.04 | Vespakoen | btw, openvpn = pptp ? |
| 19:42.09 | Sadistt0 | nope |
| 19:42.09 | Bushmills | nope |
| 19:42.18 | ahoneybun | xJaM, your very welcome and it is a learning exp. for me and you lol |
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| 19:42.45 | xJaM | jhutchins_It : I am doing my best :) |
| 19:42.59 | ahoneybun | xJaM, so you have debian and w7 on that HDD? |
| 19:43.23 | xJaM | ahoneybun : No, on one disc I have Debian, and on another disc Windows 7. |
| 19:43.41 | ahoneybun | xJaM, they are the installer cds? |
| 19:44.00 | blubberdiblub | ahoneybun, he meant hard disks |
| 19:44.02 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Whe I disconnect second disc with Windows, Debian do not want to boot and displays: DISC NOT BOOTABLE and so on. |
| 19:44.16 | Vespakoen | ok ill check that out |
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| 19:44.52 | xJaM | ahoneybun : And if I reconnect second disc I can login as root. |
| 19:45.02 | jhutchins_lt | Sounds pretty simple to me. The disk is probably detected as a different device if a second drive is present. |
| 19:45.04 | ahoneybun | blubberdiblub, so he has 2 hdds one with debian and one with w7? |
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| 19:45.29 | Vespakoen | thanks guys, by backpack is fulled with good info again, im off to the console, byebye! |
| 19:45.34 | xJaM | jhutchins_It : If I run fdisk -l I get /dev/sda for debian |
| 19:45.37 | blubberdiblub | ahoneybun, i think so, yes. and as far as i have understood it, he can boot his debian when the w7 disk is connected, but not otherwise |
| 19:45.54 | xJaM | jhutchins_It : and /dev/something for NTFS. |
| 19:46.13 | ahoneybun | blubberdiblub, sounds like a boot loader problem |
| 19:46.29 | ahoneybun | xJaM, the NTFS would be the windows 7 I believe |
| 19:46.39 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Yes. |
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| 19:46.54 | blubberdiblub | ahoneybun, not necessarily. i don't see how windows 7 bootloader would easily boot debian |
| 19:46.58 | xJaM | I have two partitions on that 2nd disc, but this is not an issue here. |
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| 19:47.25 | fasta | Is there some stupidly simple OpenID provider package in Debian? |
| 19:47.29 | ahoneybun | xJaM, so when the windows 7 disk is connected it boots from grub or what is showen on the screen |
| 19:47.38 | ahoneybun | ? |
| 19:47.42 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I also do not understand this, because I have installed Debian without connected 2nd disc with MS Win 7. |
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| 19:48.13 | ahoneybun | xJaM, so you installed the debian without the win7 disk mounted? |
| 19:48.24 | xJaM | ahoneybun : No, it does not boot from grup, it boots normally like there is just one system. |
| 19:48.26 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: Do you have any other devices like a CD or a USB Flash drive/ |
| 19:48.26 | twobitsprite | xJaM: if you disconnect the debian drive, and only connect the windows 7 drive... do you see grub? |
| 19:48.27 | jhutchins_lt | ? |
| 19:49.01 | JoeK | i just got a trojan horse from this channel somehow |
| 19:49.05 | xJaM | twobitsprite : No I do not see grup, just normal boot with Windos. |
| 19:49.13 | ahoneybun | xJaM, so it is using the windows botting |
| 19:49.14 | JoeK | or at least from the log files |
| 19:49.15 | ahoneybun | booting |
| 19:49.18 | ahoneybun | booter |
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| 19:49.44 | apofis | hi guys |
| 19:49.56 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Yes, I've installed Debina wothout the Win 7 disk mounted. |
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| 19:50.07 | twobitsprite | xJaM: sounds like your bios settings are messed up somehow... double check the drive settings and boot order, etc |
| 19:50.28 | twobitsprite | xJaM: also, what kind of drives are these? if they're old IDE drives, check the master/slave jumpers |
| 19:50.29 | ahoneybun | xJaM, sounds like windows booter is taking over or you did not install grub |
| 19:50.42 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt : I have DVD reader and not other devices. |
| 19:50.46 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | If I have a system with 4Gig of RAM is it better to use a 64 bit version or a 32 bit with PAE is enough ? |
| 19:50.55 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | got a hexcore AMD |
| 19:50.57 | Sadistt0 | 64bit better |
| 19:51.12 | twobitsprite | sh4d3sl4y3r_: if you have a 64-bit machine, you should run a 64-bit OS unless you have a specific reason to run a 32-bit OS |
| 19:51.21 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | thanks mates |
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| 19:51.48 | xJaM | twobitsprite : I've checked boot order/jumpers and yes, they are old IDE drives. |
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| 19:51.52 | apofis | here is my problem I added new NIC to my server and it's visible in the system. I also added proper entry to /etc/network/inerfaces when I call ifup eth1 my interface shows up with proper parameters BUT when I reboot server my new interface is down :/ any ideas ? |
| 19:52.07 | blubberdiblub | ahoneybun, no, you read it wrong |
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| 19:52.24 | twobitsprite | xJaM: so, the debian drive is set as master? and/or connected to the master connector on the IDE cable? |
| 19:52.28 | ahoneybun | blubberdiblub, I think so |
| 19:52.33 | Sadistt0 | apofis: add - auto eth1 on interfaces |
| 19:52.55 | xJaM | ahoneybun : I have do complete install and no errors were during it, so I guess grub WAS installed. |
| 19:53.03 | ahoneybun | blubberdiblub, so this is one of the issues of using different hdd for different OS |
| 19:53.03 | Sadistt0 | apofis: before configuration on eth1 |
| 19:53.25 | xJaM | twobitsprite : Yes. |
| 19:53.29 | twobitsprite | ahoneybun: no, having seperate disks for windows and linux is fine... |
| 19:53.39 | apofis | @Sadistt0; ahh shit - right I forgot about it :/ |
| 19:53.41 | bambanx | hello |
| 19:53.50 | blubberdiblub | ahoneybun, when you ask me it looks like his BIOS is somehow not recognizing his debian disk drive for purposes of booting when its the only hard drive connected |
| 19:53.52 | apofis | @Sadistt0; thx a lot :) |
| 19:53.57 | Sadistt0 | apofis: np :) |
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| 19:54.02 | ahoneybun | xJaM, sounds like a bios issue. so you need boot from the drive with debian first and add windows 7 to the grub menu |
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| 19:54.20 | blubberdiblub | ahoneybun, and _only_ for purposes of booting. it's recognized fine for normal operation |
| 19:54.46 | ahoneybun | blubberdiblub, I have never done it before as money is tight with me |
| 19:54.56 | twobitsprite | xJaM: yeah... something is wonky with your bios and/or IDE controller/drives/etc... I'm out of ideas... you might try asking in ##hardware |
| 19:55.03 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : probably disc is too old for normal booting - this is also possible. |
| 19:55.47 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, no, i don't think so. booting from hard drives is not related to the hard drives age (when reading/writing from them works fine) |
| 19:55.49 | xJaM | twobitsprite : I see. Thank you anyway for all your help. I guess I'll grab some new machine in the future. Thank you again. |
| 19:55.59 | ahoneybun | xJaM, try a clean install of windows 7 first then debian |
| 19:56.55 | xJaM | ahoneybun : In what way do you mean? The 2 disc to be connected or to do separate installs? |
| 19:57.06 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, i think it's just your bios getting confused by the partition layout on your debian hard drive or something like that |
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| 19:57.14 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Like I've done it already. |
| 19:57.23 | Nirgal1 | Is alioth down? |
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| 19:57.53 | ahoneybun | xJaM, are you saying "discs" as in cd or hard drive? |
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| 19:58.13 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, can you try to partition the drive from windows 7 and then installing debian onto it without changing partition layout? |
| 19:58.15 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I might figure it out if I understand things around MBRs and booting with grub and with NTFS. |
| 19:58.50 | xJaM | ahoneybun : With "disc" I mean hard drive :) |
| 19:59.07 | ahoneybun | xJaM, oh, so one hdd with 7 and one hdd with debian? |
| 19:59.11 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : Probably I can try :) |
| 19:59.22 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Yes, yes! |
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| 19:59.50 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Isn't this a gooed way to have at least two OS? |
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| 20:00.04 | xJaM | On separate HDDs. |
| 20:00.08 | ahoneybun | xJaM, so with jus the debian "disc" there is a output of nonbootable disc |
| 20:00.25 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, be sure to check inside debian installer to make extra sure it doesn't change the partition layout. changing the filesystem IDs is okay, tho |
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| 20:00.39 | xJaM | I imagine to have in this way and to have one loader (let say grub) and not to mess with BIOS. |
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| 20:01.19 | ahoneybun | xJaM, grubs list needs to have boot the windows 7 disc and the debian and tell it where they both are |
| 20:01.26 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Yes, in this case I get this kind of message from my PC. |
| 20:02.30 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I do not understand how can I check installer for this. Can you elaborate more on this? |
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| 20:02.59 | ahoneybun | xJaM, maybe this will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 |
| 20:03.01 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, i don't install debian very often. i just mean you have to read carefully what the installer says what it will do |
| 20:03.01 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : Mainly I've done "normal" install :) |
| 20:03.21 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : Aha, I see. |
| 20:03.48 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : Everything looked OK, but booting is a hell of a thing :) |
| 20:04.00 | ahoneybun | xJaM, or this |
| 20:04.04 | ahoneybun | xJaM, http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/02/17/how-to-dual-boot-debian-6-and-windows-7/ |
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| 20:04.13 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Thank yo for link, I will read it. |
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| 20:05.00 | ahoneybun | xJaM, no problem hope it is helpful |
| 20:05.02 | xJaM | I was very glad with Debian 5, so I've said to myself now it's time to go on. |
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| 20:07.14 | cooldude | does anyone know about IspCP Omega here? |
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| 20:07.24 | zastaph | debian runs about 4 times slower (fps wise) than ubuntu in virtualbox, how come? I run amd64 version |
| 20:07.26 | cooldude | becasue #ispcp here is unresponsive D: |
| 20:08.35 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Just one more question. From your 2nd link. Does it make sense to have to HDDs and to 'dual boot' two OSs, or two have two partitions in a single hard drive? What do you think? |
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| 20:08.47 | xJaM | *two HDDS |
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| 20:09.31 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: Two disks use slightly more energy. |
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| 20:10.01 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: Aha, so this is main issue against this way? |
| 20:10.51 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: OF course you have to know a lot more, if you want to have real dual boot in a single hard drive, right. |
| 20:11.38 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: No, dual boot on a single drive is easy, it's what the installer defaults to. |
| 20:11.56 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: But from a layman point of view you should use two separated hard drive for 2 different OSs... |
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| 20:12.09 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: I see. |
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| 20:12.21 | ahoneybun | xJaM, I've always have 2 partitionsfor the 2 OS's is easy |
| 20:12.27 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: So, normaly boot loaders are meant to do in this way? |
| 20:12.44 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, grub can easily do it that way |
| 20:13.09 | xJaM | ahoneybun : Yes, it is easy for you, but stiil hard for me :) |
| 20:13.12 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: The Linux bootloaders are capable of loading Windows as well, but the Windows bootloader is not. Unless you use your BIOS to choose the boot drive, allowing the Linux bootloader to choose the OS is the only way to dual boot. |
| 20:13.48 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: Somehow I know that that grub is capable of that. |
| 20:14.30 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: So, there is no way to boot both system on separate hard drives unless you mess with BIOS? |
| 20:14.50 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: Yes, the Linux bootloaders can do that as well. |
| 20:14.56 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: I undesrtand this from your sayings. |
| 20:15.01 | ahoneybun | xJaM, making partitions on one disc? |
| 20:15.16 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: They must be installed on the default boot device (selected by the BIOS). |
| 20:15.19 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, there is. i'm doing it like that. you just have to have grub on the drive that is booted |
| 20:15.30 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: In fact grub is not just Linux loader, right? |
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| 20:15.51 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: Right. |
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| 20:16.12 | xJaM | So I do not understand you all right. |
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| 20:17.04 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : What does it mead that you have grub on the drive that is booted... |
| 20:17.05 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, grub is one linux bootloader. and lilo ( = linux loader) is another linux bootloader |
| 20:17.10 | xJaM | *mean |
| 20:17.28 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : Yes, I know. |
| 20:17.37 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: If grub is installed on the default boot device, it can load either Windows or Linux from either different partitions on the same drive or from different disks. |
| 20:17.41 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, it means that grub is started first and then offers me a menu to either boot debian from hard drive 1 or windows from hard drive 2 |
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| 20:18.35 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : But do you have to do something in windows so grub becomes active, or yo do that simple from Debian for isntance? |
| 20:18.54 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: No, we fool windows into thinking it is in control. |
| 20:19.00 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, no, i just have to have grub installed to the MBR of the disk that gets booted first |
| 20:19.17 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: Grub replaces the part of WIndows that would cause it to load. |
| 20:19.35 | xJaM | I think it is possible to solve my particular problem without reinstalling any of my systems, just have to figure it out how :) |
| 20:20.00 | blubberdiblub | (well actually it just replaces the loader of the loader of the loader, but that doesn't really matter *g*) |
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| 20:20.47 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : So, I have to try to make it in order grub in hard drive, where I have Debian. (which do not want to boot right now :) |
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| 20:21.43 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : without help from hard drive with Windows 7. So I have fooled Debian to boot with WIndows, he, he. |
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| 20:21.45 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, you could also install grub to your windows hard drive. but as you earlier said you tried to remove the windows hard drive i assumed you wanted to get rid of windows altogether |
| 20:22.22 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : No, I still want to keep good 'old' wins :) |
| 20:22.40 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, then try installing grub to the windows hard drive |
| 20:23.06 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I am afraid to mess the whole Win OS, then. |
| 20:23.26 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I guess it is possible that I mess again :) |
| 20:23.33 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, then make a backup of the first few blocks of the drive. so you can put them back in case you mess anything up |
| 20:23.54 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, having backups is always a good idea ;) |
| 20:23.56 | xJaM | I think I still have to teach myself some more grub thing. |
| 20:24.02 | wols | xJaM: do you have a windows installer cd? |
| 20:24.09 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: I don't think you have a problem then. |
| 20:24.27 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: You want both drives installed, which works. |
| 20:24.32 | xJaM | wols: I have CD, yes. |
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| 20:24.55 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: When you have learned more about linux, you may figure out why it doesn't boot without the Windows drive, but that's OK for now. |
| 20:24.58 | wols | xJaM: then you don't need anything else. you can restore the windows bootloader with that if you screw it up |
| 20:25.13 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, it's just booting into debian, running "update-grub" to check if it detects windows. and if it does do a "grub-install /dev/drive-where-windows-is" |
| 20:25.28 | jhutchins_lt | blubberdiblub: He doesn't need to do that. |
| 20:25.42 | jhutchins_lt | blubberdiblub: It boots just fine as it is if the windows drive is present. |
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| 20:26.17 | blubberdiblub | jhutchins_lt, but if i understood correctly, he doesn't have a way to select OSes then. maybe i misunderstood that part? |
| 20:26.27 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: It boots fine, but I have to switch BIOS if I want Windows to boot! |
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| 20:26.48 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: Try running update-grub then, it should detect and add windows. |
| 20:26.58 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: No need to reinstall. |
| 20:27.06 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : You didn't misuderstand that. |
| 20:27.32 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt: I guess yes, no need to reinstall. |
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| 20:28.53 | xJaM | I have to change to 2nd hard drive in BIOS if I want to boot to Windows. Adn if I disconned this hard drive, then Debian does not boot (this is my problem). |
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| 20:29.38 | xJaM | I will try to run update-grup with 2nd hard drive connected. |
| 20:29.50 | jhutchins_lt | This article seems to suggest that the W7 bootloader is capable of loading Linux (or at least passing off to Linux): http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/02/17/how-to-dual-boot-debian-6-and-windows-7/ |
| 20:29.54 | blubberdiblub | well, i thought we were already at the point that you don't have to disconnect the w7 hard drive, when you want to keep it ;) |
| 20:30.13 | jhutchins_lt | xJaM: Yes, that is the next thing you should try. |
| 20:30.45 | xJaM | And as wols said, I'll have WIndows installer CD near by :) |
| 20:31.08 | blubberdiblub | "update-grub" doesn't change anything on your w7 hard drive |
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| 20:31.52 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I see. Okay then. |
| 20:32.08 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I believe you :) |
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| 20:33.05 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, "update-grub" just updates the grub.cfg or menu.lst (depending on what version of grub you're using). that is located on your linux install |
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| 20:34.16 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I have grub.cfg (and this is generated automatically rigt, from some scripts, not to write it on your own - although you might, if you experienced enough |
| 20:34.19 | thewanderer1 | uh, I just got a zombie screen process upon launching "screen -S kernel"... is that normal / should it happen at all? :P |
| 20:34.28 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, that is correct |
| 20:34.37 | SurlyFrog | Anyone have experience making Debian packages (*.deb files)? I have a couple of questions I'd like to ask. |
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| 20:34.49 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : So, my Debian is using grub 2? |
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| 20:34.59 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, actually, on debian it's better not to change it on your own, since it will be overwritten the next time update-grub is run |
| 20:35.03 | bambanx | how i can change my grub ? |
| 20:35.15 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : Aha. |
| 20:35.37 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, you can adjust how the updating does update the config file, tho, using /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/* |
| 20:35.38 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : And grub (1) is using menu.lst? |
| 20:35.47 | blubberdiblub | xJaM, yes |
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| 20:36.32 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I guess they using grub also in that crazy supercomps Crays :) |
| 20:36.41 | xJaM | *in those |
| 20:36.50 | blubberdiblub | i have no idea |
| 20:37.11 | xJaM | blubberdiblub : I know they using some Linux. |
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| 20:37.40 | pfred1 | has wicd woes |
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| 20:38.33 | xJaM | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_%28computer%29 :: Cray Linux Environment |
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| 20:39.35 | pfred1 | having never seen it work presently I doubt wicd even works on Squeeze |
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| 20:46.00 | wolfe213 | could someone advise me on a proper way to use an xapp in a chroot with schroot? I have everything all setup to the point that schroot -c lenny -p program runs and says it cannot open the display just need advice on doing xauth in a sane way |
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| 20:46.54 | pfred1 | wolfe213 did you try export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 20:47.12 | wolfe213 | pfred1: you obviously have no idea whats going on. heh |
| 20:47.30 | wolfe213 | its trying to open :0 its failing due to xauth.. |
| 20:47.31 | pfred1 | wolfe213 oh yeah I've never seen a cannot open display error in X |
| 20:47.47 | pfred1 | then use xhost |
| 20:48.40 | wolfe213 | pfred1: which is? |
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| 20:48.58 | pfred1 | wolfe213 you're high kid |
| 20:49.09 | wolfe213 | pfred1: yeah, so? |
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| 20:49.59 | wolfe213 | I was going to just to something like xauth list > /path/to/somewhere/in/chroot |
| 20:50.15 | wolfe213 | then add it from in the chroot but that seems inelegant and insecure |
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| 20:50.35 | wolfe213 | don't look up that word.. its only in GWB's dictionary |
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| 20:51.41 | wolfe213 | actually I gues that is a word.. I thought I just made it up |
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| 20:52.28 | pfred1 | wolfe213 welcome to the wunnerful world of X Window have a nice day |
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| 20:53.13 | file-exists-p | hi all. how comes 'fakeroot bash' leads to 'ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.' |
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| 20:53.21 | wolfe213 | I just figured schroot had something I have missed that does this.. acutally I thought doing a -p wouldve done it |
| 20:53.27 | file-exists-p | I recompiled and reinstalled the fakeroot package from source |
| 20:53.35 | file-exists-p | did the same with the standard from the repository |
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| 20:54.10 | file-exists-p | if I force the library location with -l, no error but I can not do anything "as root" |
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| 20:56.00 | pfred1 | file-exists-p how about that fakeroot is just a shell script learn something new every day I guess |
| 20:56.15 | file-exists-p | what? |
| 20:56.35 | file-exists-p | fakeroot uses LD_PRELOAD to force the loading of libfakeroot.so |
| 20:56.41 | pfred1 | file-exists-p I just kept on filing the link chain from which fakeroot it lead to a shell script |
| 20:56.46 | file-exists-p | ah |
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| 20:57.05 | file-exists-p | the main thing is the libfakeroot.so library afaiu |
| 20:57.07 | pfred1 | file-exists-p cat /usr/bin/fakeroot-sysv |
| 20:57.11 | file-exists-p | yes |
| 20:57.15 | file-exists-p | cat $(which fakeroot) :) |
| 20:57.22 | file-exists-p | less even |
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| 20:57.50 | pfred1 | well my fake root is a link that points to another link that points to the actual script file |
| 20:57.57 | file-exists-p | ok |
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| 20:59.36 | pfred1 | file-exists-p there is much mention in the script to libraries looking at it |
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| 21:01.09 | file-exists-p | hm |
| 21:01.12 | file-exists-p | and there are two packages? |
| 21:01.18 | file-exists-p | fakeroot and fakeroot-ng |
| 21:01.19 | file-exists-p | wtf |
| 21:01.31 | pfred1 | yes i sort of remember havint to install something besides just fakeroot |
| 21:01.35 | file-exists-p | hm |
| 21:01.47 | pfred1 | though -ng doesn't ring a bell |
| 21:01.50 | file-exists-p | ok |
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| 21:02.21 | file-exists-p | to tell the truth I am not sure to understand what does fakeroot allows |
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| 21:02.33 | file-exists-p | it intercepts systems call for file manipulations |
| 21:02.41 | file-exists-p | and make the application believes it indeed do things as root ? |
| 21:02.42 | pfred1 | I use it with make-dpkg |
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| 21:02.48 | file-exists-p | to allow making packages ? |
| 21:03.06 | file-exists-p | I have this problem precisely to make a package |
| 21:03.11 | pfred1 | yeah sort of need it to do kernels the Debian way |
| 21:03.14 | file-exists-p | it complains on creating a file in /usr/bin/ |
| 21:03.16 | file-exists-p | ok |
| 21:03.44 | pfred1 | try following the instructions for making kernels the debian way to get fakeroot with everything it needs |
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| 21:04.02 | pfred1 | least that always seems to work here |
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| 21:04.12 | file-exists-p | I find strange that such a central tool is messed up |
| 21:04.21 | file-exists-p | what architecture and version ? |
| 21:04.25 | file-exists-p | amd64 squeeze here |
| 21:04.40 | pfred1 | vanilla i32 here |
| 21:04.47 | file-exists-p | hm |
| 21:05.06 | Prolac | hi, does anyone knows how can I detach from screen which is inside another screen? |
| 21:05.09 | DSpair | Hello all, I'm getting strange problems on a Squeeze installation on EC2. Anyone know why all of the dependencies might be broken there? I'm specifically having issues with glibc/libc6 versions being incompatible. |
| 21:05.26 | file-exists-p | prolac you kept the standard key shortcuts ? |
| 21:05.37 | file-exists-p | then it should be ^aa^d no ? |
| 21:06.16 | Pici | that should be it. |
| 21:06.21 | Prolac | ah yep, thanks file-exists-p |
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| 21:44.08 | mufasis | i just installed debian from the netinstaller |
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| 21:44.38 | mufasis | i setup raid 1 and after rebooting im stuck at grub rescue as it said fd0 and fd1 had errors no such disk |
| 21:44.42 | mufasis | maybe someone could help me |
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| 21:45.36 | Prolac | are there any logs which keep info about who logged in via ssh? |
| 21:45.52 | mufasis | anyone? |
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| 21:46.05 | pfred1 | mufasis comment your floppy drive out in fstab |
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| 21:46.17 | pfred1 | r make it no auto |
| 21:46.21 | SuperNull | Hey all i forget the name of the software but .. basically it scans log files for bad things and iptables firewall it based on a hit count .. does anyone know the name of it ? |
| 21:46.38 | mufasis | im in grub rescue how do i do that, the system hasnt even loaded yet |
| 21:47.04 | pfred1 | mufasis you're going to have to boot with something and mount your root dir and edit the file |
| 21:47.30 | pfred1 | mufasis install CD may work if it allows a live environment something like that |
| 21:48.18 | pfred1 | mufasis sounds like /etc/fstab has a broken entry for your floppy drive to me though |
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| 21:48.46 | mufasis | ok how do i reboot from grub rescue |
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| 21:55.35 | MSTRCNVS | how do I downgrade packages that are no longer in any of my sources? |
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| 21:57.14 | Oxy290 | GJdan, I would also look into your DHCP settings on your server also, this information whould automatically be set with your IP |
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| 21:58.24 | Oxy290 | MSTRCNVS 'apt-get remove <package>' for the main packages, then 'apt-get autoremove' |
| 21:58.24 | GJdan | Oxy290: heh that was pretty late |
| 21:58.37 | Oxy290 | GJdan, just woke up x.x sry |
| 21:58.38 | hikenboot | been about 4 years since using debian.. I am back to it again... getting gcc error not a valid path when gcc is linked to gcc-4.4 should i change the simlink in /usr/bin/gcc to another gcc? |
| 21:59.09 | hikenboot | or should I skip the problem by installing the open tools available under synaptic for vmware |
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| 22:00.15 | Oxy290 | hikenboot, are you in the middle of installing Debian, or just compiling software? |
| 22:00.44 | MSTRCNVS | Oxy290: i mean.. I installed some packages from debian-multimedia /testing but I want to downgrade them to the version that they were before |
| 22:01.19 | hikenboot | Oxy290: installing vmware tools for the debian vm |
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| 22:02.05 | Oxy290 | oh gees g2g guys, sry petemc still around? |
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| 22:03.09 | bint | how can i see if /something is on sda1 or sda2 ? |
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| 22:03.44 | hikenboot | bint how about mounting them and doing a find / -iname whateveriamlookingfor.pl |
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| 22:04.16 | hikenboot | althought sda1 is usually your system drive |
| 22:04.27 | hikenboot | i which case it should be mounted already |
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| 22:06.52 | hikenboot | een about 4 years since using debian.. I am back to it again... getting gcc error not a valid path when gcc is linked to gcc-4.4 should i change the simlink in /usr/bin/gcc to another gcc? |
| 22:07.00 | hikenboot | s/een/been |
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| 22:08.11 | themill | /usr/bin/gcc is not a symlink you should be touching. |
| 22:08.41 | Ikey | update-alternatives :p |
| 22:08.58 | themill | Ikey: what about it? |
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| 22:18.05 | cardamon | Anyone got a good cli email client? |
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| 22:18.12 | cardamon | I'm trying mutt...and failing at it. |
| 22:18.32 | hikenboot | never mind figured it out all by my lonesome |
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| 22:18.43 | hikenboot | cardamon what about evolution |
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| 22:20.57 | xJaM | jhutchins_lt : I've managed to solve my problem with booting from both hard drives according to given URL. |
| 22:21.03 | cardamon | hikenboot: not cli |
| 22:21.18 | cardamon | I want something I can run from a term. |
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| 22:22.55 | hikenboot | ah sorry |
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| 22:27.47 | relix | Hi, I installed ruby through apt-get, compiled a new ruby, apt-get removed ruby, did make install |
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| 22:28.23 | relix | so now there's a self-compiled /usr/local/ruby, but in my current shell, typing "ruby" has the error "/usr/bin/ruby does not exist", while when I do"which ruby" it does show the correct "/usr/local/ruby" |
| 22:28.48 | relix | if I logout and back in, "ruby" now works. Is there a way I can get these paths "updated" without logging out and back in? |
| 22:28.54 | relix | I tried "reset" to no avail |
| 22:29.48 | cantido | relix: export PATH=... |
| 22:29.52 | themill | hash -r |
| 22:30.14 | relix | cantido do you think that was the problem? |
| 22:30.23 | relix | it could be, that's an interesting though |
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| 22:30.34 | cantido | relix: why is ruby in /usr/local/ruby? |
| 22:30.34 | relix | thanks cantido, themill |
| 22:30.45 | cantido | /usr/local/bin is on the default $PATH |
| 22:30.46 | relix | cantido: that's just the default when doing make install |
| 22:31.04 | cantido | relix: give it a --prefix and put it in the right place |
| 22:31.04 | relix | err sorry |
| 22:31.08 | relix | it's in /usr/local/bin |
| 22:31.21 | relix | /usr/local/bin/ruby |
| 22:31.38 | relix | so yeah, that's on the default $PATH, which is why when I logged out and back in, "ruby" did work |
| 22:31.50 | cantido | dunno then |
| 22:31.57 | relix | I don't understand why it didn't work before though, maybe some caching going on in the shell? |
| 22:31.59 | relix | oh well, thanks :) |
| 22:32.06 | relix | I can't "retry" it anyway |
| 22:32.17 | cantido | relix: just be happy it works now ;) |
| 22:32.23 | relix | yes :) |
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| 22:38.39 | themill | relix, cantido: yes, path caching is used. "hash -r" to refresh the cache. "help hash" for more information |
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| 22:40.08 | cantido | themill: learn something every day :) thanks |
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| 22:40.44 | bambanx | hello |
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| 22:41.16 | bambanx | good afternoon themill |
| 22:41.18 | JoshH | so say you have a lot of isc dhcp subnets. every now and then, you get a request to make sure one of the ip's is "static" for someone, so you add a host entry, but the ip's for that are random throughout your ranges, so you don't want to adjust your ranges all the time to exclude the ip's that are host entries, but it's also not practical to keep ip's for that outside of a normal range. everything works that way, but your logs complain and tell you to rem |
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| 22:42.22 | relix | thanks themill, wasn't sure you were responding to me |
| 22:42.28 | relix | sorry about that |
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| 22:46.56 | wolfe213 | how can I get schroot to run a X app? I have it working from a root terminal using chroot, but I want to set it up to work with schroot automatically so I can make a launcher icon for it |
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| 22:47.49 | somiaj | wolfe213: You have the tmp folder bound in your chroot so it can access the the .Xauthorty file, and then use the same number for the username in the chroot |
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| 22:48.21 | somiaj | wolfe213: I belive once you have that, just let schroot know the 'users' to chroot as...most likely its a premision issue -- you'll also have to make sure all the xlibs and binaries are installed in the chroot |
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| 22:48.52 | wolfe213 | somiaj: ah ok.. I have that bind mounted, and I did make a user.. |
| 22:48.59 | luke-jr | is there any docs for setting up Asterisk on Debian? :/ |
| 22:49.01 | luke-jr | err |
| 22:49.13 | luke-jr | what's the oldest kernel I can boot Debian stable with? |
| 22:49.14 | somiaj | wolfe213: again its been so long since I have done it I don't rember, I just recall about that issue. |
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| 22:49.31 | somiaj | luke-jr: why would you want to use anything older than 2.6.32 (fully security patched)? |
| 22:49.44 | luke-jr | somiaj: it's crashing randomly on our hardware |
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| 22:50.47 | somiaj | luke-jr: I don't know the kernel changes enough to know what in squeeze would cause issues. Are you going to compile a custom kernel -- You could try the lenny kernel (again not sure if there is any changes that make it not work in squeeze) |
| 22:50.54 | luke-jr | we know 2.6.21 works with the hardware at least |
| 22:51.23 | somiaj | can you determine what change in the kernel made it not work with the hardware, maybe fill a bugreport and get the kernel team to look into it |
| 22:51.29 | wolfe213 | somiaj: I think its not working because my cookie isn't in /tmp |
| 22:51.59 | somiaj | wolfe213: that would do it, I personally bound my whole home dir for my user into the chroot (so I didn't have to have multiple copy of user config files) |
| 22:52.53 | luke-jr | somiaj: I need out-of-tree drivers |
| 22:53.01 | wolfe213 | somiaj: I'm just doing a lenny chroot for psx emulation.. doesnt work on anything newer than lenny cause the only two working emulators are gtk1 |
| 22:53.07 | luke-jr | so kernel team probably won't care |
| 22:53.42 | somiaj | luke-jr: yea, unlss its also a driver in debian. Well if you want a debian kernel, i'd try the lenny one (Since it is still getting security patches) |
| 22:53.46 | wolfe213 | somiaj: I've been playing it from a root terminal with chroot but the schroot method is still giving me a hard time about connecting to the display |
| 22:54.05 | luke-jr | somiaj: I'm just worried about incompatibilities, like with udev or such |
| 22:54.36 | bambanx | i love debian |
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| 22:54.47 | bambanx | :) |
| 22:54.50 | somiaj | wolfe213: well sounds like you understand the issue, I rember geting it to work but I think I used dchroot |
| 22:55.19 | somiaj | luke-jr: I can't help you there, personally I'd just try it (since installing multiple kernels is easy and you can always revert to a working one) |
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| 22:55.31 | wolfe213 | yeah well schroot is the only way I know of being able tor run it as a normal user and have an icon for it |
| 22:55.32 | luke-jr | somiaj: I don't have physical access ;) |
| 22:55.59 | Ikey | o/ Deadguy |
| 22:56.01 | somiaj | wolfe213: dchroot I think does the same thing, its the one I rember using. Not sure if it will work better |
| 22:56.29 | wolfe213 | somiaj: I didnt know about dchroot I thought that was a typo.. heh |
| 22:57.02 | somiaj | luke-jr: well best of luck....well look at this |
| 22:57.17 | somiaj | luke-jr: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549710 (apears < 2.6.22 so your 2.6.21 is to old) |
| 22:57.56 | wolfe213 | somiaj: the description of dchroot basically says schroot is the same with additional features |
| 22:58.18 | somiaj | wolfe213: well sounds lke you understand what you need, been so long since I've done it I can't give you more advise than it can be done and I used dchroot to do it |
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| 23:00.03 | MSTRCNVS | how can I get the lastest gstreamer plugins? I'm needing mplex plugin, but the gstreamer really-bad stable version doesn't provide it |
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| 23:00.56 | somiaj | MSTRCNVS: 1) check backports see if it has been backported and has the plugin you need |
| 23:01.04 | somiaj | MSTRCNVS: if its not in backports, you can try to backport it yourself |
| 23:01.46 | MSTRCNVS | somiaj: you mean backports.debian.org? |
| 23:02.17 | somiaj | MSTRCNVS: correct, it appears that it is not available from backporst |
| 23:02.22 | somiaj | MSTRCNVS: http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=squeeze-backports&keywords=gstreamer |
| 23:02.53 | somiaj | MSTRCNVS: /msg dpkg ssbp (tell you how to backport from either testing or sid -- again I'd check that the sid packages by default have what you want, and if they do don't install the binarys, compile your own backport as in that factoid) |
| 23:04.41 | zykotick9 | wolfe213, personally, I've always had to use sink to using "xhost +" (which disables all security for X) in order to get chroot GUI programs working, I was hoping your question might be of benefit to me too. Good luck man. |
| 23:06.08 | wolfe213 | zykotick9: well localhost is better than + and just doing xauth list > file then xauth add $(cat file) or such inside then chroot works better |
| 23:06.43 | zykotick9 | wolfe213, thanks I'll check those options out. |
| 23:07.00 | wolfe213 | but thats not my issue.. I have the app running in the chroot I just want to be able to make an icon that launches and app in a chroot.. so I need to figure out how to do this with schroot |
| 23:07.24 | seb82 | once again... how I can port sound with rdp? |
| 23:07.40 | wolfe213 | I may have to make a script that puts the xauth into a file then another than runs in the schroot config to import it |
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| 23:09.38 | wolfe213 | I have /home, /dev, /tmp and /proc all bound inside the chroot, and I can run xapps in that chroot from a root terminal.. but I can't get schroot to do it.. heh |
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| 23:10.45 | somiaj | wolfe213: doesn't schroot run as the user, not as root...so can you run apps as the normal user inside the chroot? |
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| 23:11.10 | zozeo | wolfe213: you need a copy of your passwd and shadow as well |
| 23:11.34 | somiaj | well just for the user he wants to have access |
| 23:11.40 | somiaj | whole file is overkill |
| 23:11.50 | zozeo | true |
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| 23:13.04 | vixus | Anyone know how to solve this error: http://pastebin.com/2KcWS23E ? Has to do with the libstdc++ on squeeze not being compiled with the -fPIC option, I guess. Does this mean I have to recompile g++? |
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| 23:13.28 | vixus | Why is it linking to the static library anyway? |
| 23:13.52 | wolfe213 | zozeo: what the heck does that have to do with xauth? |
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| 23:14.58 | wolfe213 | the user wolfe is the same with same password in and outside the chroot and I dont see how that matters with auth anyhow |
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| 23:15.41 | somiaj | user id is really all it checks |
| 23:16.03 | somiaj | but you want things set up so it looks for the xauth file in the right place |
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| 23:16.40 | wolfe213 | shrugs.. uid is 1000 both places |
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| 23:17.32 | zozeo | wolfe213: I just wanted to point out that you need the same setup as your real env. Same home same uid. |
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| 23:17.44 | wolfe213 | yeah thats all setup |
| 23:18.18 | wolfe213 | but still I can only get it to run an X app from root terminal using chroot not using schroot as normal user |
| 23:19.43 | zozeo | wolfe213: can you please tell me what is the command you run? sorry if i missed it before |
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| 23:20.23 | dondelelcaro | vixus: why in the world are you linking against the static library while creating a dynamic library? |
| 23:20.44 | vixus | dondelelcaro: I'm not. |
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| 23:21.00 | vixus | dondelelcaro: Nowhere in the build script is it being told to link the static library |
| 23:21.23 | vixus | I'm just using the configure/build method specified in the readme file that comes with jack2. |
| 23:23.03 | dondelelcaro | well, presumably they're doing something incorrectly, since they're asking ld to link with the static library |
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| 23:23.51 | vixus | dondelelcaro: I think it's actually because the libstdc++.so doesn't link to an existing file. |
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| 23:24.19 | vixus | Now I need to find the actual file and point it in the right direction |
| 23:24.27 | wolfe213 | zozeo: schroot -c lenny -p /srv/pSX/pSX |
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| 23:24.42 | wolfe213 | zozeo: it says cannot connect to display :0.0 |
| 23:25.40 | dondelelcaro | vixus: that's also a possibility; assuming you've installed the appropriate libstdc++6-dev package, that symlink should be created, though |
| 23:25.46 | dondelelcaro | (and you should have the .a file without having that installed) |
| 23:26.23 | vixus | dondelelcaro: There's no such package.. |
| 23:26.46 | vixus | agh |
| 23:26.57 | dondelelcaro | vixus: libstdc++6-???-dev... |
| 23:27.04 | vixus | yeah, I got it |
| 23:27.09 | vixus | it was already installed |
| 23:27.15 | vixus | but I tried a --reinstall |
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| 23:27.29 | vixus | hmm nope.. gonna manually ln |
| 23:27.37 | dondelelcaro | you don't need to manually ln it |
| 23:28.15 | vixus | well the package isn't doing it, so I guess I do? |
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| 23:28.17 | dondelelcaro | vixus: which package did you install? the link is in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.?/ |
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| 23:28.38 | vixus | dondelelcaro: 4.4 |
| 23:28.44 | dondelelcaro | vixus: dpkg -L libstdc++6-4.4-dev (or whatever version is appropriate) and check to make sure that the .so is there |
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| 23:29.25 | vixus | dondelelcaro: I see the issue.. the build configurator thinks I have v4.4.5 of gcc |
| 23:29.32 | vixus | I wonder why.... |
| 23:29.33 | dondelelcaro | vixus: and you also shouldn't have a /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.a in the first place; we don't distribute that |
| 23:29.56 | dondelelcaro | you probably built it or compiled something manually, and have random detrius lying about |
| 23:30.14 | vixus | dondelelcaro: Hmm, I don't remember compiling anything like that.. |
| 23:30.38 | rypervenche | I am going to make a backup of my /home on a new external HDD that I got. I want it to be LUKS, so should I go with aes-cbc- |
| 23:30.40 | vixus | dondelelcaro: Well can I just rm the directory? |
| 23:31.12 | dondelelcaro | vixus: probably, but hard to say what else you've got laying about |
| 23:31.15 | rypervenche | Oops, should I go with aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 or aes-xts-plain ? |
| 23:31.40 | vixus | dondelelcaro: True.. Not sure how that got there anyway.. |
| 23:32.10 | vixus | dondelelcaro: Any way of checking if anything else might be hanging around? |
| 23:32.21 | dondelelcaro | vixus: there's cruft and you can always check dpkg -S |
| 23:33.00 | vixus | dondelelcaro: Here's something else strange, I've got libstdc++ v4.6.1 for some reason. |
| 23:33.21 | vixus | dondelelcaro: could it be because of ia32-libs? |
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| 23:34.40 | vixus | dondelelcaro: damn, I know why.. my system mixed up packages from sid and squeeze |
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| 23:44.36 | gnarface | in netstat -s |
| 23:44.56 | gnarface | "connections established" is the number of total concurrent connections in/out of the box on all interfaces at the moment>? |
| 23:45.05 | gnarface | on all protocols? |
| 23:46.35 | oconnore | Hi, I am creating a Raid1 system with 2 disks from an existing system on sda. I want to be able to boot from either disk, so that if one crashes, I can easily restart the computer and resync the other disk. I have /dev/md0 as my raid array, currently holding [sdb,missing]. When I attempt to install grub to md0 with "grub-install --modules=raid /dev/md0", I get an error "can't open /dev/md/0: no such file." Any ideas? |
| 23:47.05 | oconnore | (also to #grub) |
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| 23:47.54 | DarkSmark | ;) |
| 23:48.03 | oconnore | Please help, I have spent the last hour googling various combinations of "grub, raid, bootstrap, install" |
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