| 00:00.05 | DelphiWorld | peace: i hop you're realy peacefull. |
| 00:00.29 | peace | so far,so good, but i want that when the users login per ftp or ssh, they have something like a chroot so they can access the normal binaries (stuff like imagemagick etc), but not other users' homes |
| 00:00.58 | peace | how do i do this? |
| 00:01.20 | peace | @DelphiWorld i'm not lulzsec |
| 00:01.22 | peace | ;) |
| 00:01.22 | somiaj | peace: you will have to put a copy of the binaries in each chroot |
| 00:01.27 | icebrain | peace: set each users' directories permissions accordingly? |
| 00:01.58 | somiaj | peace: or if all of the users are in a single chroot, you can just chmod 700 (or 750) the user directories |
| 00:02.02 | peace | icebrain, the public_html directories have to be world-readable soapache can see them, so a direct cd /home/uname/public_html will still work for other users |
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| 00:02.59 | somiaj | just make all the home dirs 750 nad have them be owned by user.www-data then the web browser can get in the dirs, but the other users cannot |
| 00:03.01 | icebrain | peace: unless you create a group for each user and put apache's user in all of them. |
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| 00:03.32 | peace | hmm, that should work... |
| 00:03.41 | icebrain | (in fact, AFAIK each user should already have its own group) |
| 00:03.50 | peace | they do, yeah, LDAP based authentication |
| 00:04.10 | peace | every user has its own group |
| 00:04.33 | peace | now the point is, how do i get the UNIX user "apache" into the LDAP user groups... |
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| 00:04.51 | icebrain | yeah, LDAP is unknown to me, sorry |
| 00:05.02 | somiaj | peace: adduser apache <user group name> |
| 00:05.08 | somiaj | peace: or just etc /etc/groups by hand |
| 00:05.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | note thatdebian has www-data |
| 00:05.37 | ward_ | nobody? |
| 00:05.43 | ward_ | this wacom bs is driving me completely crazy |
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| 00:05.57 | Kamping_Kaiser | ward_: whats your question? |
| 00:06.04 | somiaj | peace: though the default is what I said, just allow the www-data group to access the home dirs and keep the users out of it. They own it so its just fine. |
| 00:06.19 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, how to get the wacom digitizer from my portege M400 working |
| 00:06.24 | peace | interesting, www-data is always GID 33 |
| 00:06.26 | justjealouse | anyone here have experience with wine debugging? i wish they made a 1.3 release.. |
| 00:06.38 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, that wacom pacjkage with the really long stupid name i keep forgetting is installed |
| 00:06.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | peace: yes, its a system group |
| 00:06.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | peace: iirc provided by base-files |
| 00:07.14 | HardDisk_WP | justjealouse, there's #winehq for wine problems and #winehackers if you're really into development of wine itself |
| 00:07.21 | peace | ah, okay |
| 00:07.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | ward_: please pastebin your xorg |
| 00:07.29 | justjealouse | ill try that |
| 00:07.36 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, it's defualt i didn't alter anything |
| 00:07.51 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, i don't find what i should alter, i googled my ass off for an hour |
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| 00:08.12 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, do i still pastebin it? |
| 00:08.16 | somiaj | justjealouse: I compile my own wine binaries cause even in sid the package is a bit old. I did a test and compiled the 1.2 against squeeze, but haven't tried 1.3 |
| 00:08.31 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, also the system uses xorg.d so its multiple parts |
| 00:08.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | ward_: yes |
| 00:08.40 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, all parts? :s |
| 00:08.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | oh, ok |
| 00:08.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | what are the parts? |
| 00:09.01 | ward_ | xorg.conf.d i mean |
| 00:09.38 | ward_ | evdev, wacom and synaptics |
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| 00:11.04 | DelphiWorld | somiaj: how do i change the shell language ? |
| 00:11.13 | peace | thx for the help |
| 00:11.14 | peace | gn8 |
| 00:11.23 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, and xsetwacom --list returns nothing |
| 00:11.25 | DelphiWorld | night peace |
| 00:11.30 | somiaj | DelphiWorld: what? |
| 00:11.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | have you looked at http://wiki.debian.org/WacomTablets ? |
| 00:11.33 | somiaj | DelphiWorld: I woudln't know |
| 00:11.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom might have soe more, andi know redhats bugzilla has stuff on it |
| 00:11.53 | DelphiWorld | somiaj: like now my shell language is french |
| 00:12.50 | somiaj | DelphiWorld: again I wouldn't know. I have only ever used debian in english. you could try 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' but there could be something else I am not aware of. |
| 00:13.07 | DelphiWorld | somiaj: would try. thank you a lot |
| 00:13.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | altering LANG or LC_ALL |
| 00:13.33 | somiaj | locales should set the defaults for that. |
| 00:13.34 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, both mouses dont seem to work... (yet i'm using one of them: my touchpad) |
| 00:13.51 | DelphiWorld | yo yo somiaj ! |
| 00:14.01 | DelphiWorld | siomiThank you a lot ! Wireless is up up up ! |
| 00:14.02 | ward_ | all wacom crap worked out of the box so far... |
| 00:14.06 | ward_ | this is pretty sucky |
| 00:14.17 | DelphiWorld | somiaj: Thank you a lot ! Wireless is up up up ! |
| 00:14.35 | ward_ | Kamping_Kaiser, read the link trough, nothing usefull |
| 00:14.36 | somiaj | DelphiWorld: (: |
| 00:15.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | why is none of it useful? do you not have input/wacom devices?] |
| 00:15.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | i don't have a tablet, so i can't do debugging here |
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| 00:17.21 | DelphiWorld | would give somiaj a gift |
| 00:18.22 | ward_ | and why is wacdump gone :-@ |
| 00:18.24 | kingsley | Is my recollection correct that "apt-get purge --reinstall" removes installed files before re-creating them? |
| 00:18.26 | ward_ | this keeps getting worse and worse |
| 00:18.36 | ward_ | its broken and the tools to debug it are removed! |
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| 00:19.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | kingsley: presumably --purge reinstall |
| 00:19.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | kingsley: don't know if reinstall worksworks with purge though |
| 00:21.08 | kingsley | Kamping_Kaiser: Does your man page for apt-get say that it recognizes "reinstall" instead of "--reinstall"? |
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| 00:24.32 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there a music player app that can play from a NAS DLNA server like my WD MyBookLive? I got totem to play videos from it with the totem-coherence plugin. But the rhythmbox-coherence plugin fails to work or I don't know how to configure the two settings that it has. |
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| 00:25.30 | alazare619 | whats the terminal command to remove a folder |
| 00:25.37 | alazare619 | not rm... cant remember the other one |
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| 00:27.04 | LinuxGuy2009 | rmdir? |
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| 00:28.38 | iluminator101 | hi, i am getting this error http://paste.pocoo.org/show/473856/ thanks in advance |
| 00:28.42 | iluminator101 | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/473856/ |
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| 00:32.33 | ward_ | gonna try to find out if there are any other distros that don't have this problem |
| 00:32.39 | ward_ | or have decent documentation at least |
| 00:32.55 | ward_ | 2 hours on getting my damn digitizer to work, without any result whatsoever is just too long |
| 00:33.26 | m_ | somiaj, uhh... one question, how do i protect users from stupid software making files world-readable? |
| 00:34.23 | cooldude | hey guys, how can you remove a chat off of a eggdrop's config in partyline? |
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| 00:36.21 | alazare619 | when i close and restart there showing them again |
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| 00:41.29 | boudiccas | cooldude; hey jordie, your question is off topic for here, please ask in #eggdrop |
| 00:42.16 | justjealouse | i think debian should play saw theme song when you log on, discuss |
| 00:42.36 | justjealouse | give it a chance, think it over first |
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| 00:47.03 | zykotick9 | alazare619, right click the channel on the left side, Settings / Hide Join/Parts Messages |
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| 00:59.16 | sweetandy | I have a headless server in my room, just power and ethernet connected. I plan on upgrading from squeeze to wheezy; is it a bad idea to do this entirely over ssh, or should I connect a monitor/keyboard? |
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| 01:01.22 | zykotick9 | alazare619, it does for me? Are you using xchat-gnome by chance? |
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| 01:02.42 | somiaj | sweetandy: most would suggest you don't run wheezy on a server. There have been some grave bugs recentally hitting people upgrading. |
| 01:03.08 | somiaj | sweetandy: but I'd just have the monintor/keyboard handy incase you have to fix anything... |
| 01:03.42 | sweetandy | somiaj, it's not really a "server" so much as an optical drive that works and a place to hold/convert media before transferring it to my main computer |
| 01:04.02 | somiaj | sweetandy: Well you have been warned, now have fun!! :D |
| 01:04.05 | sweetandy | yay!!! :D |
| 01:04.15 | sweetandy | Grave bugs are the sorts of things that need fixin'! Maybe I can help, who knows. |
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| 01:05.05 | somiaj | sweetandy: just be sure you know how to admin debian and check the bts for when things go bad |
| 01:05.18 | sweetandy | You got it, Cap'm |
| 01:05.20 | sweetandy | thanks |
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| 01:06.56 | iluminator101 | hi, i am getting this error http://paste.pocoo.org/show/473856/ thanks in advance |
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| 01:09.15 | somiaj | iluminator101: the server you are installing isn't starting up...says a bad config file, have you checked the bts |
| 01:09.26 | justjealouse | how do i view my current video driver? |
| 01:09.49 | somiaj | justjealouse: if it has 3d support, 'glxinfo' will give you info about the driver and 3d support |
| 01:10.07 | iluminator101 | somiaj, just fixed it |
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| 01:10.36 | iluminator101 | somiaj, solution:ifconfig lo up |
| 01:11.06 | somiaj | iluminator101: better add 'auto lo' to your /etc/network/iterfaces. (: |
| 01:11.09 | justjealouse | somiaj: when i type that it brings up a ton of 'fixme' and hex locations |
| 01:11.46 | somiaj | justjealouse: the top of it says some info -- lsmod list all the modules that are loaded, your kernel driver will be in tehre |
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| 01:12.08 | somiaj | justjealouse: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what was setup when you ran x, and give you the xorg-video-driver |
| 01:12.16 | iluminator101 | somiaj, i already have auto lo in intefaces i dont know why it does not start automatically though |
| 01:12.46 | somiaj | iluminator101: hmm, check logs is only thing I can think of |
| 01:13.13 | somiaj | iluminator101: what does 'ifup lo' give you? |
| 01:13.24 | iluminator101 | what is auto called in rc.d i wanna see if its there when its there |
| 01:13.38 | somiaj | iluminator101: you need "iface lo inet loopback" as well |
| 01:13.47 | iluminator101 | ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" |
| 01:13.55 | somiaj | iluminator101: what do you mean? its /etc/init.d/networking that is the script run to bring up all the 'auto' devices |
| 01:14.06 | justjealouse | this is so complicated |
| 01:14.20 | somiaj | iluminator101: that is your issue, permisions on that file preventing ifup from reading it, which is what gets called from the startup script. |
| 01:14.39 | justjealouse | is there a package i can download that will tell me what driver i am using |
| 01:15.37 | justjealouse | what package do i "apt-get" that will give me my driver |
| 01:15.48 | iluminator101 | somiaj, how can i fix this |
| 01:16.10 | somiaj | iluminator101: ls -l /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:16.43 | iluminator101 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 347 Sep 10 21:15 /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:17.02 | somiaj | iluminator101: ls -ld /etc/network |
| 01:17.30 | justjealouse | what about me |
| 01:17.38 | iluminator101 | permission to pm somiaj |
| 01:17.53 | somiaj | iluminator101: I would prefer not, put the output in a pastebin. Thanks for asking though |
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| 01:18.09 | somiaj | justjealouse: look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see which video driver it detected |
| 01:18.13 | iluminator101 | drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Sep 2 10:36 /etc/network |
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| 01:18.44 | justjealouse | somiaj: theres a lot of text there, can i ctrl+f for something |
| 01:20.09 | somiaj | justjealouse: paste the output of the whole file in paste.debian.net |
| 01:20.25 | somiaj | iluminator101: provide me with your interfaces fil in a pastebin |
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| 01:21.51 | iluminator101 | somiaj, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/473862/ |
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| 01:22.36 | justjealouse | this is it http://pastebin.com/iSRyJUK2 |
| 01:22.44 | justjealouse | you could just tell me what to ctrlf |
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| 01:23.32 | somiaj | justjealouse: NVIDIA GLX Module 260.19.12 Fri Oct 8 11:41:55 PDT 2010 -- line 78 looks like you are using the non-free nvidia drivers |
| 01:24.18 | justjealouse | excellent the debian ones are bad right? |
| 01:24.51 | somiaj | justjealouse: what do you mean bad? Yes I think the non-free nvidia drivers provide the best preformance for the card, but if you aren't running 3d applications the 'free' ones in debian from the kernel are just fine |
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| 01:25.09 | justjealouse | im running some serious shit my man |
| 01:25.14 | somiaj | iluminator101: I am not seeing any error. Only suggestion I would have is comment out that 'post-up' line and see if 'ifup lo' and 'ifdown lo' work |
| 01:25.38 | ward_ | i dont find any device section in the xorg.conf.d crapness |
| 01:25.43 | ward_ | what wrong with ONE file!?!!? |
| 01:25.58 | ward_ | so where do i find my device section please? |
| 01:26.01 | somiaj | ward_: nothing, just make one /etc/X11/xorg.conf file |
| 01:26.11 | justjealouse | give it to somiaj, he'll find it for your |
| 01:26.12 | somiaj | ward_: by default debian provides with NO xorg config file |
| 01:26.18 | justjealouse | he's a human ctrl+f machine |
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| 01:26.44 | ward_ | pff |
| 01:26.47 | somiaj | justjealouse: I coudln't tell you waht to type since I had no clue what drivers, card or anything about yourset up....so I used my eyes and my brain to figure it out. (: |
| 01:26.54 | iluminator101 | somiaj, it worked expected i got run-parts: /etc/network/if-up.d/blockcontrol exited with return code 8 |
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| 01:26.55 | ward_ | is there anything that can generate a xorg.conf for me then?... |
| 01:27.06 | ward_ | there are no decent docs about this at all |
| 01:27.08 | justjealouse | there is one thing.. |
| 01:27.11 | justjealouse | its name is somiaj |
| 01:27.21 | ward_ | just su |
| 01:27.26 | somiaj | iluminator101: there is something wrong with that post-up line then..that error is just probabaly because the device was already up. |
| 01:28.17 | somiaj | ward_: I have never found a good generation tool, there are some though, X --configure I belive is one |
| 01:28.31 | ward_ | thnks somiaj |
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| 01:28.46 | somiaj | might just be -configure |
| 01:29.09 | somiaj | or Xorg -configure |
| 01:29.24 | iluminator101 | thanks somiaj you are the best |
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| 01:32.16 | somiaj | iluminator101: your welcome. |
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| 01:37.33 | ward_ | still no digitizer |
| 01:37.41 | ward_ | well 4 hours wasted |
| 01:37.56 | ward_ | beginning to think its just debian |
| 01:38.06 | ward_ | all wacom tablet have worked on all other linux distros out of the box |
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| 01:50.01 | maxd | hello. how can I get unlisted monitor resolutions to appear in monitor config (gnome)? |
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| 01:52.32 | justjealouse | anyone know if you can get playonlinux for wheezy? it doesnt seem to be supported |
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| 02:22.52 | Bar_ | Can I cap the network bandwidth of a specific command I execute? |
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| 02:33.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | Bartzy: there are some tools to do so |
| 02:33.35 | Bartzy | Kamping_Kaiser: Yeah, I just found trickle |
| 02:37.07 | justjealouse | is there an easy way to dl and install all the amd_64 packages on this website? http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
| 02:38.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | wget and dpkg? |
| 02:38.14 | justjealouse | im still new to wheezy |
| 02:38.30 | justjealouse | im not sure how to do it so the 32 bit stuff doesnt get installed |
| 02:38.34 | NiLon | wheezy? :o |
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| 02:38.49 | justjealouse | ? |
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| 02:39.28 | NiLon | why you run wheezy |
| 02:39.37 | justjealouse | the website told me to :( |
| 02:39.45 | NiLon | right |
| 02:39.53 | justjealouse | so can you explain? |
| 02:40.29 | NiLon | nothing to explain, you are just using unstable bomb :P |
| 02:40.34 | justjealouse | not at all |
| 02:40.40 | justjealouse | there are no problems with wheezy |
| 02:40.43 | NiLon | good that you think so |
| 02:40.46 | justjealouse | wine isnt supported on lenny either |
| 02:40.51 | justjealouse | what are you talking about? |
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| 02:41.11 | NiLon | so your options are lenny and wheezy? :D |
| 02:41.14 | justjealouse | ok buddy id like someone who knows what theyre doing |
| 02:41.19 | NiLon | not current stable squeeze? |
| 02:42.01 | justjealouse | how do i check my version? |
| 02:42.05 | NiLon | uname -a |
| 02:42.39 | NiLon | or that won't tell you directly your version, but go figure |
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| 02:43.35 | Dagger3 | `cat /etc/debian_version`, on the other hand... |
| 02:44.02 | NiLon | and /etc/issue |
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| 02:46.33 | NiLon | justjealouse do you need those unstable versions of wine? |
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| 02:58.03 | altker128 | Hey all. Is it possible if I want to build a package from source, to get a list of relevant options so I can set them as I like? |
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| 03:00.43 | aypea[1] | alt: like configure options for the src tarball? |
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| 03:01.28 | altker128 | aypea[1]: Yes, exactly. I know I can do --config-file but I'm wondering is there a way to get something like the FreeBSD ports system where it pulls up an ncurses GUI to set the relevant options |
| 03:02.19 | aypea[1] | alt: investigate the debian dir of the source package. all the stuff you want is there |
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| 03:04.57 | justjealouse | NiLon ill look around myself for now |
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| 03:14.01 | justjealouse | how i download/install the 64 squeeze version of playonlinux from this repository? http://deb.playonlinux.com/ |
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| 04:27.40 | webdawg | When I try to apt-get -b source znc I get errors. Debian sid. While I can work on the error through support channels I think I can bypass it. How do I control what is passed through configure when znc is built? |
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| 04:39.30 | sedulous | how can I easily verify the checksums of all packages' files in a debian chroot and identify files that don't belong to packages? do i actually have to enter the chroot or are the tools that can analyze it from the outside, without actually chrooting? |
| 04:39.43 | sedulous | s/are the/are there/ |
| 04:40.30 | sedulous | the chroot has to be assumed compromised, so executing anything inside it would not be reliable |
| 04:44.48 | simonlnu | $chroot/var/lib/dpkg/info/*md5sums and debsums command too |
| 04:46.15 | sedulous | the former would involve scripting a solution by myself, which seems redundant but i'll look at the latter, thanks |
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| 04:51.02 | webdawg | I figured it out. |
| 04:51.06 | webdawg | I needed to edit the rules file. |
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| 04:54.01 | webdawg | Hmm. |
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| 04:54.08 | webdawg | Anyone know if I should make this into my own package? |
| 04:56.24 | simonlnu | up to you |
| 04:56.57 | webdawg | Well. |
| 04:57.13 | webdawg | Would I need to I suppose is the question. |
| 04:57.35 | webdawg | I would not want it to get overridden by znc0.200-2 |
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| 05:10.46 | simonlnu | webdawg: you will be eventually, regardless, but to keep it you'd name it -2.1 or -nmu2 or such (debian/changelog; easy to do with dch in devscripts) |
| 05:10.51 | namoamitabuddha | Does slim support for switching users? |
| 05:11.04 | webdawg | Well. |
| 05:11.12 | webdawg | editing the rules file messed something up. |
| 05:11.18 | simonlnu | apt-cache show <package> |
| 05:11.19 | webdawg | I am going to give up. |
| 05:11.29 | webdawg | I am just going to manually compile it. |
| 05:11.34 | webdawg | Instead of the sid script |
| 05:11.38 | simonlnu | webdawg: it's a make script (makefile) so tabs matter |
| 05:11.42 | hydromet | hi, this might be a dumb question, but is there any way to extract a debian source package from a debian binary package (including a .dsc file and patches and possibly original upstream source)? In other words, is there a way to work backward to sources solely from a binary package? |
| 05:11.47 | webdawg | The sid script compiles all the features. |
| 05:11.59 | webdawg | simonlnu, I will try it again. |
| 05:12.08 | webdawg | it was compiling |
| 05:13.55 | somiaj | hydromet: no, you cannot get the source out of a binary, its why reverse engeerining a closd source binary driver takes time. |
| 05:14.07 | webdawg | simonlnu, what do I have to do again to edit it? |
| 05:14.09 | webdawg | Err. |
| 05:14.12 | webdawg | Change the version. |
| 05:14.15 | hydromet | somiaj: thanks, that's what I thought |
| 05:14.17 | somiaj | hydromet: but debian provides the exact source that made each packages including their personal patches from upstreem. |
| 05:14.39 | somiaj | hydromet: and that is easy to get ahold of. apt-get source <pkg name> you just need a deb-src line in your sources.list |
| 05:16.30 | hydromet | somiaj: indeed. but I'm sort of in a conundrum -- there is an upstream source that is new (openswan 2.6.35) but the current debian repository (sid) only has version 2.6.28 |
| 05:17.26 | somiaj | and you want to make a package from the upstream source? |
| 05:17.28 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.33 | hydromet | somiaj: the new source has a debian/ directory and also a patches/ directory but only a few patches in it and I am not sure if I should apply the same patches for a Debian downstream (there are 20 of them in 2.6.28) to the new source |
| 05:17.36 | simonlnu | so file a bug saying 'new upstream version' or something |
| 05:18.03 | hydromet | somiaj: yes, I want to make a package from the upstream source ... and try it out on a non-production machine |
| 05:18.08 | simonlnu | hydromet: the maintainer (team) does that anyway |
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| 05:18.35 | hydromet | simonlnu yes but the maintainer (team) has not yet done so for the newest version 2.6.35 that was released in July |
| 05:19.02 | hydromet | at least not that I'm aware of yet (but maybe I need to look in a different repository besides sid (unstable))? |
| 05:20.02 | somiaj | hydromet: I would just compile the upstream source as is and not worry about the debian paticular patches unless you run into an issue. In which case look though the patches to see if they fix that issue with debian. |
| 05:20.03 | simonlnu | so file a bug saying 'new upstream version' or something |
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| 05:21.05 | webdawg | simonlnu, I edit the rules file and it still builds all the extra crap heh |
| 05:21.08 | hydromet | simonlnu: that's a good idea, but in the mean time I wouldn't mind figuring out how to roll my own if possible, but maybe its too unknown since I don't know if the same patch files for 2.6.28 for debian downstream should also be applied to the 2.6.35 version |
| 05:21.19 | somiaj | hydromet: and yes a wishlish bug would be reasonable. Depending on the project there are different levels of communications between the debian matainers (making the debian patches) and upstream. |
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| 05:22.33 | hydromet | somiaj: what is a bummer is that the upstream source provides a developer snapshot release candidate as a debian binary package only (for their paid customers) but wouldn't also supply the modifications to the original source used to make the binary package :-( |
| 05:22.40 | hydromet | nor the .dsc file |
| 05:22.49 | hydromet | even it was only used in house |
| 05:22.54 | hydromet | or for their customer |
| 05:23.16 | somiaj | hydromet: It could be that many of the debian patches are things that have been integrated into the upstream source, so just compile it and if you notice something amiss, look though the patches debian provides to see if they are there to give better integration into debian systems. But I wouldn't worry about them unless you have some issue |
| 05:23.37 | somiaj | hydromet: you say the have a debian/ directory in the upstream. have you tried to just rool a package with debian/rules binary? |
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| 05:25.49 | webdawg | I think I may have figured it out. |
| 05:26.40 | hydromet | somiaj: yes, they have in their original source a debian/ subdirectory (beneath the root directory of the source once its extracted from the tarball), and inside this debian/ directory they have files like control, info, and "openswan.preinst", "openswan.prerm" etc. ... and also a patches/ subdirectory but the patches/ subdir has a 00list file and only two patches ... so maybe this is all I need? |
| 05:27.11 | hydromet | somiaj: I have never tried to rool a package, what should I do to try this? What does it generate? |
| 05:27.40 | somiaj | hydromet: if the rules script is set up to do it. If you have all the debian develomenot packages installed just running 'debian/rules binary' can be enough |
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| 05:30.11 | hydromet | somiaj: that is really cool! There is, in fact, a rules file in the /debian dir and I'm looking at it now, its a script that calls /usr/bin/make and exports DH_OPTIONS ... indeed, I have a dedicated virtual machine with the debian development packags installed (like debbuild) |
| 05:31.13 | hydromet | somiaj: I really appreciate this, I wasn't aware that its possible to run the rules script like this ... will it then probably create a binary for me and so I might not need a .dsc file etc.? |
| 05:31.34 | somiaj | hydromet: it should create a .deb for you |
| 05:32.26 | hydromet | somiaj: I will definitely try this, thanks for a great suggestion (I might have been making life more difficult for myself) |
| 05:33.22 | somiaj | hydromet: the difficult part I've ran into rolling my own packages is creating a debian/ dir (if there isn't one or the supplied one is missing) -- but dh_make will create a simple one that works with many source tars that use automake/autoconf |
| 05:33.48 | somiaj | hydromet: but even with dh_make I'm able to easily turn the newest upstream of wine 1.3 source into a debian package. |
| 05:34.36 | Dulak | somiaj++ |
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| 05:46.22 | cooldude | hey guys, how can i make it so that sendmail is not sending mail locally because i have a bind config that should be routeing the mx records to google mail |
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| 05:48.06 | mitc0185 | I'm trying to build a .deb from a source package. I need to compile with an extra option passed to ./configure -- is there a debian-specific way to do that? |
| 05:48.34 | mitc0185 | when I run configure and then dpkg-buildpackage the build errors out |
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| 05:50.18 | somiaj | mitc0185: what have you done? easiest way should be to grab the debian source package and modifie the configure options it the debian/rules script |
| 05:50.37 | mitc0185 | somiaj: debian/rules was the clue I was looking for |
| 05:50.44 | mitc0185 | just found that in a forum post... |
| 05:50.45 | mitc0185 | thanks |
| 05:50.59 | somiaj | mitc0185: do you have the -dev libs installed for the additional option as well so the configure script doesn't error out? |
| 05:51.01 | mitc0185 | I was just running ./configure before attempting to build the package |
| 05:51.22 | mitc0185 | somiaj: I believe so, yes |
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| 05:51.36 | mitc0185 | it's for the fastcgi module for clisp -- and I have libfcgi-dev installed |
| 05:52.08 | somiaj | well there should be some sort of CONFOPTS env variable or an actual configure line you can just add the options to in the debian/rules script. (: |
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| 05:52.45 | hydromet | somiaj: looks like I need to add the dpatch tool because I got a "make: dpatch: Command not found" (apparently I don't have all the debian build tools) ... but I am optimistic this is going to work (similar to your needs for upstream wine) |
| 05:53.00 | hydromet | somiaj: you rock! |
| 05:53.02 | holben | I just did a upgrade of my 'testing' and notice that my '/' drive partition has changed from hda2 to sda2. where can i read more on this change? |
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| 05:53.41 | somiaj | holben: the change is in the kenrel. For the most part is it nothing more than name change |
| 05:54.30 | somiaj | holben: old ide devices were called hda, new sata hds were called sda -- newer kernels just now call them all the same labeling scheme. |
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| 05:56.40 | cooldude | hey guys, how can i undo this -> "You have new mail in /var/mail/cooldude" |
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| 05:57.58 | phrantiq | tried typing mail? |
| 05:58.11 | cooldude | yes |
| 05:58.19 | cooldude | i cna get my mail in ssh |
| 05:58.22 | cooldude | thing is i dont want that |
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| 05:58.31 | cooldude | i want my mail routing into my google apps account |
| 05:58.53 | mitc0185 | somiaj: looks like my build with a modified debian/rules script is working. Thanks again. |
| 05:58.58 | somiaj | cooldude: do you want to just disable notifications in general? |
| 05:59.06 | somiaj | mitc0185: you are welcome. |
| 05:59.58 | cooldude | somiaj, like i said, yes i want to disable notifications, AND i am not getting any mail that is being made from my server into my google apps account |
| 06:00.17 | cooldude | i can send mail and recieve it from my google apps account |
| 06:00.33 | cooldude | but i cannot recieve mail that is made thru my debian server into my google apps account |
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| 06:01.06 | hydromet | somiaj: after installing dpatch it looked like make / dhmake was going to town and I'm missing a dependency but that should be easy to solve -- I think you are spot on about getting a .deb binary made from debian/rules thank you *very* much! :-) |
| 06:01.07 | somiaj | cooldude: you can just set your $MAIL envvar to nothing in your .bashrc |
| 06:01.16 | cooldude | uh |
| 06:01.16 | somiaj | cooldude: export MAIL= |
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| 06:03.13 | cooldude | so somiaj, i put "export MAIL=" in the .bashrc in root/ |
| 06:03.14 | cooldude | ? |
| 06:03.14 | somiaj | seems you should also change the $MAILCHECK var by 'unset MAILCHECK' |
| 06:03.28 | cooldude | so somiaj, i put "export MAIL=" in the .bashrc in root? |
| 06:03.43 | somiaj | cooldude: or what ever user you want to disable that notifation for |
| 06:04.03 | cooldude | so what should i exactly put in my .bashrc somiaj? |
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| 06:07.30 | somiaj | cooldude: I'd put both. |
| 06:08.10 | cooldude | so i put "export MAIL=$MAILCHECK" in the .bashrc? |
| 06:08.34 | holben | somiaj: thks. the change is not reflected in /etc/udev devfs.rules. |
| 06:08.57 | phrantiq | just MAIL= and MAILCHECK= |
| 06:09.10 | cooldude | well |
| 06:09.18 | cooldude | here is my .bashrc from /home/cooldude |
| 06:09.18 | cooldude | http://pastebin.com/Wewi10pr |
| 06:10.00 | cooldude | and here is my .bashrc from /root/ |
| 06:10.01 | cooldude | http://pastebin.com/4KsKHxKQ |
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| 06:10.19 | somiaj | cooldude: unset MAIL MAILCHECK |
| 06:10.22 | somiaj | cooldude: that should be enough |
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| 06:11.22 | cooldude | somiaj, so i put "unset MAIL MAILCHECK" in any .bashrcs? |
| 06:11.31 | somiaj | cooldude: as a single line at the end of the file is fine |
| 06:11.37 | cooldude | k |
| 06:11.50 | somiaj | cooldude: you can just type that into your running shell to turn it off now so you don't have to logout and backin for it to take effect |
| 06:12.20 | cooldude | ok... |
| 06:12.46 | cooldude | so now my mail that is being sent locally from my server will go to my Google Apps Account? |
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| 06:13.41 | somiaj | depends, you will still collect mail sent to 'localhost' |
| 06:13.59 | somiaj | but any mail sent to yourdomain.foo will be reidreicted by your MX record |
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| 06:14.11 | cooldude | well i want to collect mail sent to my Google Apps account |
| 06:14.31 | cooldude | let me see here |
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| 06:14.56 | cooldude | let me register a dummy nick on my IRC server as the services has a mail verify thing |
| 06:15.07 | somiaj | I'm saying that your computer sometimes generates an email and sends it to itself at local host. But mail you send to yourdomain.foo is just fine. |
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| 06:16.19 | cooldude | ya the mail is sending thru sendmail that is installed on the server, but it is receiving it |
| 06:17.33 | cooldude | and i have a named.conf.local bind9 setup to have the mx records to gmail |
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| 06:17.53 | somiaj | cooldude: what mail server do you use? |
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| 06:18.11 | cooldude | somiaj, just sendmail... |
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| 06:19.09 | BlueG | I have a debian machine that has quite updating, and I'm not sure why. I know there are updates available for several packages, but aptitude safe-upgrade shows nothing. |
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| 06:22.29 | streuner | BlueG: please show us your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 06:25.28 | windparadise | hello good morning. please I am trying to install LAMP on a fresh VPS box and I have an error below, what do I do ? root@storecomplex:~# apt-get install php Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Unable to locate package phproot@storecomplex:~# |
| 06:25.29 | somiaj | cooldude: try 'sendmail forward all mail' in google, got some hits. I don't know sendmailt that well. |
| 06:25.53 | cooldude | somiaj, k |
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| 06:26.24 | somiaj | windparadise: the package name is 'php5' |
| 06:27.25 | windparadise | the same applies to php5 too |
| 06:27.31 | BlueG | streuner: It's only two non-comment lines. |
| 06:27.35 | windparadise | somiaj: good morning |
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| 06:27.40 | BlueG | deb http://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/debian/ squeeze main |
| 06:27.40 | BlueG | deb-src http://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/debian/ squeeze main |
| 06:27.42 | windparadise | I thougth you were gone |
| 06:27.46 | windparadise | I felt asleep yesterday |
| 06:27.58 | streuner | BlueG: /msg dpkg security |
| 06:28.13 | windparadise | I thing it's an empty box, I will need to add the repositories now |
| 06:28.18 | BlueG | I just swapped from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ to see if that would make a difference |
| 06:28.24 | somiaj | windparadise: did you ever get me the output of your /etc/apt/sources.list file? |
| 06:29.00 | streuner | BlueG: updates are in security.debian.org, for details /msg dpkg security |
| 06:29.19 | Dulak | Anyone know a hook that would let me remount /tmp while installing packages? |
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| 06:29.33 | windparadise | somiaj: no, what commend do I type? |
| 06:29.49 | somiaj | windparadise: cat /etc/apt/sources.list -- copy the output and put it at paste.debian.org |
| 06:30.56 | BlueG | streuner: ah, that appears to be what I was missing. Thanks |
| 06:31.10 | streuner | np |
| 06:31.45 | somiaj | windparadise: sorry I mean paste.debian.net |
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| 06:33.00 | windparadise | somiaj: euh, they are not many, root@storecomplex:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian-security squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 06:33.24 | TheoKar | hello |
| 06:33.41 | somiaj | windparadise: run 'apt-get udpate' |
| 06:33.49 | somiaj | windparadise: apt-get update |
| 06:33.56 | cooldude | blah i am getting overwhemled over all this... |
| 06:34.20 | windparadise | ok |
| 06:34.40 | jason404 | Which US City is in the EST timezone which also appears in the tzdata tool?? |
| 06:34.46 | Dulak | cooldude: sendmail is evil |
| 06:35.01 | streuner | jason404: NY? |
| 06:35.02 | cooldude | Dulak, lol |
| 06:35.09 | jason404 | oh duh |
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| 06:36.06 | Dulak | cooldude: it wouldn't surprise me if sendmail ends up being the core of the rogue AI that will inevitably kill us all. |
| 06:36.35 | somiaj | cooldude: default MTA on debian is exim. 'dpkg -l | grep sendmail' to see if you have it really installed or another mta. |
| 06:36.46 | jason404 | sendmail from cybderdyne systems |
| 06:36.51 | Bushmills | hasn't sendmail been integrated into emacs long ago? |
| 06:37.18 | cooldude | i am just gonna try to wait paitently as my VPS guy is gonna reimage my box to a box with a SolusVM |
| 06:37.26 | cooldude | and somiaj, ok let me do that |
| 06:38.12 | cooldude | this is what comes up |
| 06:38.15 | cooldude | i will pastebin |
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| 06:39.20 | cooldude | http://pastebin.com/GcYrnsnA |
| 06:39.21 | cooldude | there |
| 06:39.31 | Ac-town | is there anyway to boot a debian livecd without ipv6 support? |
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| 06:39.56 | windparadise | somiaj: I have this error from line 34 http://pastebin.com/mU9rPWMx |
| 06:40.19 | Dulak | cooldude: do you have a sharp knife and a live chicken handy? |
| 06:40.35 | cooldude | Dulak, lol why..É |
| 06:40.42 | somiaj | windparadise: your security line is a bit flawed |
| 06:40.52 | TheoKar | I'm trying to connect to to a win VPN server (via PPTP) its a easy task with windows clients, but I could not get it working with debian! I know SERVER-URL LOGIN ans PASSWORD but the howto's i found so far are terrible. isn't there a simple command to get debian connected over existing network conenction? |
| 06:41.00 | Dulak | cooldude: configuring sendmail requires the voodoo man. |
| 06:41.14 | cooldude | oh..? |
| 06:41.24 | windparadise | somiaj: ? |
| 06:41.35 | windparadise | I don't understand, and what do I do? |
| 06:41.39 | somiaj | windparadise: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian-security should be deb http://secuirty.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 06:41.41 | Bushmills | TheoKar: how does that relate to openvpn? |
| 06:41.53 | somiaj | windparadise: modify that file, fix the url |
| 06:41.57 | Dulak | cooldude: yes now the first step is to learn the macro language m4. It's pretty simple, but you use it to create the config file. |
| 06:42.10 | windparadise | where is the file located? |
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| 06:42.28 | cooldude | well Dulak, i was not the one who created the config of sendmail on my box, i had someone else doing that |
| 06:42.29 | somiaj | cooldude: ls /etc/mail (do you have a directory filled with config files there)? |
| 06:42.30 | Bushmills | TheoKar: ehm, sry. i thought i was on a different channel |
| 06:42.43 | somiaj | cooldude: might as well just wait for the person who knows it then. |
| 06:42.52 | TheoKar | Bushmills: k :-) |
| 06:42.53 | hydromet | somiaj: I have great news! Your suggestion was right on the money! Once I got my build dependencies added, I got my binary package to be made. You made my day! |
| 06:42.58 | Dulak | cooldude: yes and I'm telling you what you need to learn in order to change/fix it |
| 06:43.26 | cooldude | [02:42:28 AM] <somiaj> cooldude: ls /etc/mail (do you have a directory filled with config files there)? <- i see a sendmail.conf in ther |
| 06:43.32 | TheoKar | Bushmills: but if openvnc could handle pptp ... |
| 06:43.43 | windparadise | somiaj: where can I pls locate the file to be modified ? |
| 06:44.00 | somiaj | windparadise: /etc/apt/sources.list (its the same file I've asked you about (: |
| 06:44.03 | Bushmills | TheoKar: /j #openvpn, and there !pptp |
| 06:44.13 | Dulak | cooldude: http://www.sendmail.org/m4/readme.html |
| 06:44.32 | jason404 | I set the hostname using `hostname -v -b foo.bar.com`, but when I type `dndomainname` I get `dnsdomainname: Name or service not known` |
| 06:45.04 | jason404 | what have I done wrong? |
| 06:46.12 | TheoKar | Bushmills: I know its crappy! but its the one the server is using. |
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| 06:51.48 | windparadise | somiaj: pls look at the new log |
| 06:51.50 | windparadise | http://pastebin.com/bcJ4AaPE |
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| 06:56.06 | somiaj | windparadise: typo, could have been my fault its 'security.debian.org' you have secuIRty.debian.org |
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| 06:58.25 | windparadise | somiaj: thanx, should I start the installations now ? |
| 06:59.23 | somiaj | windparadise: yes, try apt-get install php5 now |
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| 07:09.13 | valdyn | jason404: the hostname is not the dnsdomainname |
| 07:09.42 | windparadise | somiaj: I am trying to install mysql server and had the following error http://pastebin.com/q5qYTw9w |
| 07:09.44 | jason404 | yes, I know that, but I had a set a fqdn |
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| 07:10.15 | valdyn | jason404: where? your command does not set the dnsdomainname |
| 07:10.19 | somiaj | windparadise: apt-cache search mysql-server -- try to search for the name yourself. (: |
| 07:10.40 | windparadise | ok ok, sorry I am still in the neo state |
| 07:10.56 | jason404 | valdyn: yes, I reaslise that now. when i rebooted it everything was the same as before anyway, including the hostname |
| 07:11.21 | somiaj | windparadise: try to install mysql-server-5.1 |
| 07:11.25 | jason404 | valdyn: so I guess I need to change it at the hypervisor level ort something? (it an Amazon EC2 instance) |
| 07:11.35 | valdyn | jason404: your dnsdomainname is independent of any setting of your local computer |
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| 07:11.50 | valdyn | jason404: no |
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| 07:12.16 | valdyn | jason404: the dnsdomainname is queried at your name server |
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| 07:12.24 | jason404 | ic |
| 07:12.33 | valdyn | jason404: or at /etc/hosts |
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| 07:13.00 | valdyn | jason404: theres /etc/hostname, which you can set, but thats not your dnsdomainname |
| 07:13.12 | jason404 | yes, I added the fqdn in hosts, but it did not do anything |
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| 07:13.39 | valdyn | jason404: show us that line |
| 07:13.53 | yagoo | cool debian turned 18.. sounds pretty mature hahahha |
| 07:13.58 | Soothsayer | My deployment script which runs as a normal user needs to do an apache restart at the end of it. I don't mind entering my root password.. but I need it to be a oneline command to "become root and restart apache". How would I type this command? |
| 07:14.01 | yagoo | <awkward> |
| 07:14.04 | yagoo | lol :) |
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| 07:14.24 | jason404 | xx.xx.xx.xx host.domain.tld |
| 07:14.31 | kristian-aalborg | aight, so after building a kernel, I want to build another one... how do I clean up the dir? |
| 07:14.41 | windparadise | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:14.43 | yagoo | kristian-aalborg, make clean? hahahahaha |
| 07:14.47 | yagoo | kristian-aalborg, clean it boy |
| 07:15.08 | valdyn | jason404: it needs to me "xx.xx.xx.xx host.domain.tld host" |
| 07:15.16 | kristian-aalborg | yagoo, that's enough? |
| 07:15.25 | jason404 | valdyn: on my other vps, which is all set up, /etc/hostname has a fqdn in it. is that right? |
| 07:15.25 | yagoo | kristian-aalborg, there's a readme doc as well.. |
| 07:15.31 | yagoo | kristian-aalborg, should be in root of kern source |
| 07:15.34 | valdyn | jason404: and /etc/hostname needs to contain just the host |
| 07:15.35 | somiaj | windparadise: Well run apt-get update -- I do not see why you keep having this same issue. |
| 07:15.40 | somiaj | windparadise: apt-cache search mysql |
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| 07:16.15 | valdyn | jason404: question is also what you are trying to achieve with this |
| 07:16.40 | jason404 | valdyn@ that's really strange, as I have put the hwol fqdn in /etc/hostname and everything has been working perfectly for months, inclusing mail and everything |
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| 07:16.56 | jason404 | hwol - whole |
| 07:18.04 | valdyn | jason404: I dont know how exim queries the names exactly |
| 07:18.10 | yagoo | jason404, u changed hosts too? ( http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname ) |
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| 07:18.45 | jason404 | yagoo: I'll have a look at that in a bit, thanks |
| 07:20.20 | valdyn | jason404: this is by far not all places on that wiki |
| 07:20.45 | jason404 | valdyn: I didn't understand that |
| 07:20.57 | windparadise | somiaj: it seems some of the packages are not installed based on the error on this log, from ln 24 |
| 07:21.08 | windparadise | http://pastebin.com/AAcUMnd3 |
| 07:21.11 | valdyn | jason404: this wiki lists various places where a hostname appears and may need to be changed, but its not complete |
| 07:21.22 | yagoo | valdyn, http://thank-you.debian.net/ |
| 07:21.26 | valdyn | jason404: though naturally it depends on which services you have installed |
| 07:22.03 | somiaj | windparadise: give me the output of your sources.list file again |
| 07:22.05 | jason404 | ic, well, I would not have expected that this would need to be set in various places |
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| 07:22.35 | valdyn | jason404: you never told us what you are trying to achieve |
| 07:22.56 | jason404 | rename host and set fqdn |
| 07:22.58 | valdyn | jason404: typically systems can be looked up with more than 1 name |
| 07:23.09 | valdyn | jason404: no, thats a means to do what? |
| 07:23.31 | jason404 | just so that it has a memorable name to connect with |
| 07:23.38 | valdyn | jason404: fix your bash prompt? have mail work properly? ping that host by name? |
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| 07:23.51 | jason404 | bash prompt too |
| 07:24.01 | windparadise | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.07 | valdyn | jason404: so you want to reach that host from elsewhere by name? |
| 07:24.11 | yagoo | jason404, what's in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 07:24.24 | yagoo | jason404, are you running a namerserver/bind ? |
| 07:24.26 | jason404 | the way everything works on my current host is perfect, so I am just looking up how come it works perfvtly with a fqdn in /etc/hostname |
| 07:24.42 | somiaj | windparadise: this is the last time. Fix that file and change the security line like I just told you before. |
| 07:24.49 | jason404 | yagoo@ no bind |
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| 07:25.06 | yagoo | jason404, apropos hostname |
| 07:25.32 | yagoo | google got rid of google.com/linux |
| 07:25.34 | yagoo | bastards |
| 07:25.56 | maxd | anyone knows hot to put more resolutions under monitor settings? |
| 07:26.02 | maxd | squeeze, gnome |
| 07:26.18 | valdyn | maxd: more than you see listed in "xrandr" ? |
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| 07:27.16 | maxd | valdyn, I don't know what is xrand, but I meant under monitor configuration from gui menu |
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| 07:27.33 | valdyn | maxd: open a terminal, run "xrandr", let us know if you get enough resolutions |
| 07:27.43 | jason404 | (valdyn) jason404: it needs to me "xx.xx.xx.xx host.domain.tld host" |
| 07:27.50 | jason404 | ^^ I don't understand why? |
| 07:27.58 | valdyn | jason404: in /etc/hosts, yes |
| 07:28.07 | maxd | wait a sec. have to boot up that machine |
| 07:28.16 | valdyn | jason404: i dont either, and i dont care, i figured this out in the 90ies |
| 07:28.36 | valdyn | jason404: which means any reason i once might have had is forgotten ;) |
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| 07:29.01 | yagoo | jason404, "You can't change the FQDN (as returned by hostname --fqdn) or the DNS domain name (as returned by dnsdomainname) with this command. The FQDN of the system is the name that the resolver(3) returns for the host name." |
| 07:29.04 | valdyn | jason404: this is probably to split host from domain |
| 07:29.04 | yagoo | jason404, hostname |
| 07:29.09 | yagoo | lol |
| 07:29.13 | yagoo | rtfm ;-) |
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| 07:29.36 | jason404 | yagoo: yes, I read the manpage before |
| 07:29.51 | yagoo | stop whinning.. |
| 07:29.51 | jason404 | but after I initially asked |
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| 07:29.52 | yagoo | :) |
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| 07:30.26 | jason404 | I can't see how I could be said to be whining about anything |
| 07:31.06 | valdyn | jason404: so now we already told you how to fix the files in /etc/ . What else is there to solve now? |
| 07:31.42 | windparadise | somiaj: pls forgive me to disturb you again, currently I noticed the repo contains php5.3 how do I for the repo to install php 5.2? |
| 07:31.59 | jason404 | actually I remamber now, with rackspace I had to do it in the web interface, as it was overwritten on reboot otherwise |
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| 07:32.06 | windparadise | php5.3 causes some nasty errors on most of my scripts |
| 07:32.14 | jason404 | and I think the same is happening with Amazon EC2 |
| 07:32.21 | jason404 | they both run on Xen |
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| 07:32.41 | yagoo | windparadise, u sure it's not php? |
| 07:33.01 | windparadise | its php |
| 07:33.09 | yagoo | windparadise, then pastebin it |
| 07:33.33 | maxd | valdyn, yes. more under xrandr |
| 07:33.41 | windparadise | most of errors are deprecated functions errors in earlier versions or php which are not available in the new version |
| 07:33.54 | maxd | max there is 800x600. |
| 07:34.03 | valdyn | maxd: do you see enough resolutions in xrandr ? |
| 07:34.09 | yagoo | windparadise, so try loading a legacy support module.. who know ? |
| 07:34.18 | yagoo | windparadise, maybe there's a legacy toggle.. |
| 07:34.19 | maxd | no. just from 320x200 to 800x600 |
| 07:34.29 | maxd | 240* |
| 07:34.34 | valdyn | maxd: ok, now we need to know which video driver you're using |
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| 07:35.18 | yagoo | windparadise, if it aint' broke don't need to upgrade :) |
| 07:35.23 | maxd | I wish I could know. if it should be seen under xrand, then it is not there |
| 07:35.45 | windparadise | ok |
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| 07:36.46 | valdyn | maxd: run 'grep "Driver mode" /var/log/Xorg.0.log | head -1' |
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| 07:39.48 | maxd | valdyn, command executed, but nothing showed up |
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| 07:40.26 | valdyn | maxd: ok, try "grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log", that will bring quite alot of noise too, so put it up on a paste site |
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| 07:45.03 | maxd | valdyn, trident as driver 0 and vesa as driver 1 |
| 07:45.48 | maxd | that machine is not connected to network of any sort. to post full log i have to get it with flash or fdd. |
| 07:46.10 | maxd | both drivers are autoconfigured |
| 07:46.12 | valdyn | maxd: wow trident, that got to be old |
| 07:46.32 | maxd | yes. that laptop is from ~99. |
| 07:46.45 | maxd | brand - pico. model uknown |
| 07:46.54 | valdyn | maxd: trident should be what is used right now |
| 07:47.07 | valdyn | maxd: put up your whole Xorg.0.log or read yourself which modes are excluded why |
| 07:47.08 | maxd | probably |
| 07:47.17 | maxd | ok |
| 07:47.44 | valdyn | maxd: you might have to generate modelines and monitor specs yourself |
| 07:47.45 | windparadise | please how do I add this to the current repo ? from this url ? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libonig2 |
| 07:48.09 | wols_ | windparadise: you already run squeeze and already have the repos for it |
| 07:48.18 | valdyn | maxd: and you might want to look at the read-edid package to look at provided monitor specs, they might be wrong |
| 07:48.38 | valdyn | maxd: and if they are correct you get a monitor section for free from that tool |
| 07:49.05 | windparadise | this is what happens to me |
| 07:49.49 | windparadise | root@storecomplex:~# apt-get install libonig2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package libonig2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source |
| 07:50.00 | windparadise | and when I search for it, I didn't find it in the list |
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| 07:50.49 | windparadise | apt-cache search libonig or libonig2 returns no output |
| 07:51.04 | somiaj | have you fixed your sources.list to actually update correctly yet? |
| 07:51.07 | maxd | valdyn, that is what I want - to add more modes by myself. just don't know where. monitor should handle at least 1024x768. and refresh rates I asume could be the same as for 800x |
| 07:51.23 | windparadise | yes, I have fixed it and ran the update |
| 07:51.42 | buntfalke | Hi |
| 07:51.43 | valdyn | maxd: I know what you want |
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| 07:52.54 | buntfalke | Is it not possible to use "Package: concrete-package\nPin: release a=oldstable"? Does a=oldstable only work with "Package: *"-blocks? |
| 07:52.55 | valdyn | maxd: There's 2 things that might be wrong. 1) The monitor specs detected by the trident driver - thats why you need to read the modes in Xorg.0.log, each line contains also a reason why its not used if its not used ) |
| 07:53.27 | valdyn | maxd: and 2) possible modes might not be tried at all, those you need to generate yourself and add in Xorg.0.log |
| 07:53.27 | maxd | bad mode clock/interlace/doublescreen. that is what's said for 1024x768 |
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| 07:53.44 | maxd | for other modes there is wrong refresh rates or memory is too low |
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| 07:53.58 | maxd | but other modes is not my concern |
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| 07:54.40 | valdyn | !videogen |
| 07:54.49 | maxd | !videogen |
| 07:55.00 | valdyn | maxd: videogen is a package that can be used to generate modelines |
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| 07:56.16 | maxd | that one is not installed by default, right? |
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| 07:56.23 | valdyn | maxd: nope |
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| 07:56.42 | windparadise | any answer pls? |
| 07:57.17 | maxd | that complicates things at this situation |
| 07:57.23 | maxd | maybe need to figure out how to connect that laptop to the internet |
| 07:57.31 | streuner | judd, versions libonig2 |
| 07:57.32 | judd | Package libonig2 on i386 -- lenny: 5.9.1-1; sid: 5.9.1-1; squeeze: 5.9.1-1; wheezy: 5.9.1-1 |
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| 07:57.44 | maxd | if only windows ICS worked |
| 07:57.49 | valdyn | maxd: you can generate modelines elsewhere |
| 07:57.51 | maxd | router will not be available for some days |
| 07:57.59 | valdyn | maxd: but you cant use read-edid elsewhere |
| 07:58.06 | streuner | windparadise: according to judd, it should be in the repos, if you using Debian :-) |
| 07:58.09 | maxd | ou, I see. just the numbers, not some configuration file |
| 07:58.38 | windparadise | judd: I am using amd64 |
| 07:58.46 | maxd | when I get correct modelines, next step is? |
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| 07:59.04 | valdyn | maxd: no, the first step is figuring out why the higher modes arent used |
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| 07:59.23 | valdyn | maxd: you already saw the reason listed in Xorg.0.log |
| 07:59.31 | maxd | yes |
| 07:59.50 | valdyn | maxd: but you dont know if the modeline is beyond monitor specs or if the monitor specs are detected wrong |
| 08:00.14 | streuner | windparadise: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/libonig2/download |
| 08:00.23 | valdyn | maxd: but sure if monitor specs that are detected are "good enough" for a higher mode you can just generate that one |
| 08:00.40 | streuner | judd, versions libonig2 --release amd64 |
| 08:00.41 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libonig2' was found in i386. |
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| 08:00.53 | valdyn | maxd: and add it to your xorg.conf |
| 08:01.32 | valdyn | maxd: http://howto-pages.org/ModeLines/ |
| 08:01.46 | streuner | judd, versions libonig2 --arch amd64 |
| 08:01.46 | judd | Package libonig2 on amd64 -- lenny: 5.9.1-1; sid: 5.9.1-1; squeeze: 5.9.1-1; wheezy: 5.9.1-1 |
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| 08:01.57 | windparadise | thx a lot |
| 08:01.57 | streuner | windparadise: ^^^ |
| 08:02.01 | streuner | np |
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| 08:03.09 | maxd | valdyn. tnx. looks like usefull stuff |
| 08:03.26 | maxd | but next thing is xorg.conf itself. it is not located @ /etc/X11 |
| 08:03.36 | valdyn | maxd: except i dont see generating new modes explained there |
| 08:03.45 | valdyn | maxd: just modifications of a current mode |
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| 08:04.39 | maxd | http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl |
| 08:04.43 | maxd | this one could be it |
| 08:04.51 | valdyn | maxd: yea |
| 08:05.03 | feisar | hi, if I need to install Sun Java JDK on Squeeze, do I need to do it manually? |
| 08:05.21 | valdyn | maxd: keep in mind your trident chipset might not have enough ram to display the idael solution in true color |
| 08:05.28 | valdyn | maxd: keep in mind your trident chipset might not have enough ram to display the idael resolution in true color |
| 08:05.28 | somiaj | feisar: its in the non-free repo, the package is sun-java6-jdk |
| 08:05.56 | yagoo | valdyn, ur pathetic |
| 08:05.58 | yagoo | geez |
| 08:06.10 | valdyn | yagoo: uh? |
| 08:06.13 | feisar | somiaja: thanks but unfortunately I get 'E: Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate' |
| 08:06.35 | windparadise | is this trustworthy ? |
| 08:06.37 | windparadise | http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php |
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| 08:06.39 | valdyn | yagoo: lets not go this way |
| 08:06.40 | somiaj | feisar: do you have the non-free repos enabled in your sources.list file -- there was a reason I mentioned non-free |
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| 08:06.59 | feisar | somiaj: yes, I believe so |
| 08:07.09 | somiaj | feisar: what does apt-cache search sun-java retrun |
| 08:07.14 | feisar | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free |
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| 08:08.39 | feisar | somiaj: it returns: sun-java6-fonts, sun-java6-javadb, sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-source |
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| 08:09.07 | calculon_ | Hi. Where am I? |
| 08:09.38 | somiaj | feisar: no clue why you aren't seeing sun-java6-jdk, its a pacakge http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/sun-java6-jdk, try to update or check apt-cache policy sun-java6-jdk |
| 08:09.47 | valdyn | calculon_: /topic |
| 08:09.48 | calculon_ | is it anonymous alcoholics club? |
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| 08:10.55 | feisar | somiaj: thanks, could ppc be anything to do with it? |
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| 08:11.30 | somiaj | feisar: appears so, scroll down on that page its only available for amd64 and i386 -- |
| 08:11.35 | calculon_ | guys i have a question. |
| 08:11.56 | yagoo | calculon_, and what makes you think we have an answer ? ;-) |
| 08:12.17 | somiaj | feisar: looks like you'll have to use the source files sun-java6-source and maybe they can be made into the jdk |
| 08:12.22 | calculon_ | Why when I'm trying create live-cd with live build I can not add wget, man-db packages? |
| 08:12.25 | yagoo | calculon_ must be using his first ubuntu boot |
| 08:12.31 | calculon_ | it's always deleting. |
| 08:12.42 | feisar | somiaj: ah, ok, thanks |
| 08:12.50 | yagoo | (debian/ubuntu persay err) |
| 08:13.13 | somiaj | feisar: no clue how to do that, I'd check google or /usr/share/doc/sun-java-source when you install that package |
| 08:13.32 | calculon_ | today is 11 September. |
| 08:13.51 | calculon_ | My brother birthday |
| 08:13.52 | windparadise | hello, pls where do I locate my web folder? |
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| 08:14.04 | feisar | somiaj: thanks for your help, do you know if a version for ppc will be released? |
| 08:14.05 | wols_ | windparadise: /var/www |
| 08:14.10 | windparadise | thx |
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| 08:14.42 | somiaj | feisar: my guess is there is some reason its not there, but unless you start searching though the package info and bug reports I couldnt' say. Not an issue I run into |
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| 08:15.04 | feisar | somiaj: ok thanks for the help |
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| 08:15.50 | wols_ | feisar: yes, jdk ÃÂs i386 and amd64 only. http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/sun-java6-jdk |
| 08:15.59 | calculon_ | Do u know what i'm thinking? |
| 08:16.09 | calculon_ | 'bout sex |
| 08:16.12 | calculon_ | =) |
| 08:16.14 | feisar | wols_: thanks |
| 08:17.01 | calculon_ | how to find a pretty girl and do what i want |
| 08:17.13 | wols_ | feisar: openjdk has a sdk available: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/openjdk-6-jdk |
| 08:17.29 | maxd | valdyn, how do I generate xorg.conf, if (x) server is active? |
| 08:17.57 | maxd | I remebmer that some time ago you could get out of x by ctrl+alt+backspace |
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| 08:18.25 | feisar | wols_: ah, that might work. I don't know a lot about it though. I'm trying to install OpenBravo which needs it. Is OpenJDK likely to work as a dependency? |
| 08:18.41 | wols_ | only one way to find out... |
| 08:18.49 | feisar | yeah tias |
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| 08:19.08 | wols_ | maxd: not anymore. just shut your X down |
| 08:19.20 | wols_ | maxd: log out and /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 08:20.14 | calculon_ | oh booooooooring |
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| 08:23.20 | maxd | ok, will try thoose approaches |
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| 08:31.30 | Oxy290 | is there a way to PXE boot a live debian? Or PXE boot a debian installation that does NOT require downloads? |
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| 08:31.57 | greenEyes25 | Oxy290: drbl |
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| 08:32.29 | Oxy290 | dpkg: drbl |
| 08:32.29 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, Oxy290 |
| 08:32.36 | Oxy290 | hmm, same here dpkg |
| 08:32.47 | kristian-aalborg | hmm |
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| 08:33.11 | kristian-aalborg | if I don't have X on my system, can I disable all graphics drivers when compiling the kernel? |
| 08:33.22 | kristian-aalborg | apart from the framebuffer stuff...? |
| 08:33.42 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: even that |
| 08:33.43 | greenEyes25 | this is normal with fresh install and testing main contrib non-free ? aptitude upgrade > open: 451901; closed: 313629; defer: 63; conflict: 149 |
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| 08:33.58 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: why would you compile a custom kernel? |
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| 08:34.03 | yagoo | kristian-aalborg, well u dont want to disable dependencies that may be needed for ur video driver to work |
| 08:34.14 | yagoo | (meaning "dependency driver code) |
| 08:34.17 | rtr- | Oxy290, gpxe? |
| 08:34.44 | Oxy290 | naw, I'm using isc-dhcp-server with tftpd-hpa |
| 08:34.47 | kristian-aalborg | yagoo, for fun |
| 08:34.50 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: dependencies are automatic, so you can remove as much as you want as long as you verifiy that what you need is there |
| 08:34.50 | Oxy290 | I know how to boot with pxe |
| 08:35.03 | yagoo | kristian-aalborg, |
| 08:35.08 | Oxy290 | just wanna know if i can have all the nessecary files needed for installation available locally |
| 08:35.13 | yagoo | vga-rom stuff is ansi like stuff |
| 08:35.35 | valdyn | Oxy290: cds and dvds can be downloaded |
| 08:35.46 | yagoo | kristian-aalborg, maybe you'd like to check out what ansi is (it's a terminal type -- defacto supported on basiscally all vga rom) |
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| 08:35.56 | Oxy290 | valdyn: I am attempting to book via PXE |
| 08:35.57 | maxd | ok, I will return to this stuff later. tnaks for help |
| 08:36.00 | Oxy290 | boot* |
| 08:36.14 | valdyn | Oxy290: but youre asking about packages, they are on downloadable cd / dvd images |
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| 08:36.42 | Oxy290 | how would I configure the netboot to not use a mirror but instead pull it from tftpd |
| 08:37.02 | valdyn | Oxy290: theres no handholding solution to your problem, you need to get the packages by the means of your choice |
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| 08:38.07 | valdyn | Oxy290: one dvd *is* a ( partial ) mirror |
| 08:38.31 | yagoo | Oxy290, a netinstall iso can install a basesystem without network (eg: netinstall iso install from cd)-- just uncheck the network packages/addon from the module list to prevent network place packages.. |
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| 08:38.55 | kristian-aalborg | http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/configuring-an-ultralight-2-6-34-kernel/ |
| 08:39.03 | kristian-aalborg | reads this ^ |
| 08:39.17 | kristian-aalborg | also misses the kmandla blog |
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| 08:39.54 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: that guy is stupid |
| 08:40.09 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: i means he's doing stupid things |
| 08:40.18 | kristian-aalborg | valdyn, such as? |
| 08:40.31 | kristian-aalborg | playing with old hardware? |
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| 08:42.02 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: building a monolithic kernel is not saving resources |
| 08:42.20 | kristian-aalborg | ah, that... I wouldn't know |
| 08:42.51 | kristian-aalborg | but (s?)he has introduced me to a bunch of cool software, and clever tricks |
| 08:43.11 | kristian-aalborg | and the blog was very well-written |
| 08:43.13 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: i cant say anything about the other things he might be doing |
| 08:44.24 | kristian-aalborg | check it out if you got some time to kill, it's interesting |
| 08:44.48 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: his kernel is a good way to save turnaround time when rebuilding kernels |
| 08:48.19 | kristian-aalborg | I think I'll use it as a template upon next try |
| 08:48.51 | kristian-aalborg | oh, btw... I'm building several versions of the exact same kernel... naming them custom1 custom2 etc... this is not a problem? |
| 08:49.01 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: nope |
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| 08:50.31 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: upstream + append_to_version + revision makes the unique id |
| 08:51.04 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: where revision defines the upgrade path iirc |
| 08:51.22 | valdyn | kristian-aalborg: ... if youre using make-kpkg that is |
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| 08:53.34 | kristian-aalborg | I am |
| 08:54.02 | mac7 | Hi, try to install the oxywin plasma theme, downloaded and unpacked the gz file, but how to install this theme? |
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| 08:54.29 | valdyn | mac7: no README inside? |
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| 08:55.06 | mac7 | valdyn: no only an oxywin-dark desktop configuration file... |
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| 08:55.57 | mac7 | dunno how to use it... |
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| 08:59.33 | Oxy290 | Where can I learn how the installation CD works for linux distros |
| 08:59.39 | Oxy290 | now how to use it, but how it works |
| 08:59.53 | Oxy290 | not how to use it* -_- |
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| 09:01.56 | brunner | if I have 8GB of RAM, do I really need a swap partition? |
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| 09:08.18 | icebrain | brunner: you do if you want to hibernate the machine |
| 09:08.38 | brunner | icebrain: I can live without hibernation |
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| 09:10.40 | icebrain | then it's your call; will you use more than 8GB of RAM? If so, it can be useful to prevent the OOM killer for killing your processes until you can get it down. If not, you don't need it. |
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| 09:11.50 | valdyn | brunner: depends on your usage, its sometimes better not to have swap but let the oom-killer do its thing |
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| 09:13.46 | brunner | valdyn: is oom-killer already in the kernel? |
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| 09:13.54 | valdyn | brunner: yes |
| 09:13.59 | brunner | valdyn: this is plain old desktop usage |
| 09:14.31 | valdyn | brunner: then the decision is probably irrelevant |
| 09:14.34 | brunner | wait, so processes are subject to random death if I run out of memory??? |
| 09:14.35 | valdyn | brunner: throw a dice |
| 09:14.44 | valdyn | brunner: yes |
| 09:14.45 | icebrain | brunner: not random, there's an algorithm to decide |
| 09:14.57 | icebrain | http://lwn.net/Articles/391222/ |
| 09:14.58 | brunner | and this is the default behavior?? |
| 09:15.01 | valdyn | brunner: its heuristics, but you can assume its random |
| 09:15.11 | valdyn | brunner: do you understand what the alternative is? |
| 09:15.27 | brunner | valdyn: an error message? :) |
| 09:15.32 | valdyn | brunner: a system crash |
| 09:15.33 | nkuttler | swap won't protect you from the killer though |
| 09:16.03 | xingu | brunner: fyi my 8GB dram desktop system is presently 30MiB into swap. |
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| 09:16.14 | brunner | do popular distros warn users if they get close to running out of memory? |
| 09:16.38 | valdyn | brunner: if a program works as simple as "i want 1 G ram" and that ram is not available, then that program will die and there will not be an oom-killer |
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| 09:16.59 | wols_ | valdyn: commit vs. allocation... |
| 09:17.00 | valdyn | brunner: unfortunately reality is alot more complex, thats why you get an oom-killer or a system crash |
| 09:17.54 | valdyn | brunner: no |
| 09:18.16 | valdyn | brunner: i dont know of a system that does |
| 09:18.48 | xingu | brunner: some of the math involved isn't straightforward, either; consider - a naive implementation would force page reclaim (ie zeroing once-dirty, now released pages) at some high watermark (at the point that memory contention became probable); unfortunately this tend toward a situation where your system is 100% busy doing nothing but page reclaim |
| 09:19.12 | xingu | brunner: effects like _that_ are the reason why 1/ not exhausting the last 10% of space on a mounted volume 2/ having a little swap are a good idea. |
| 09:19.33 | valdyn | xingu: if he could understand your text he wouldnt ask his questions, i think ;) |
| 09:19.41 | xingu | laughs |
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| 09:20.37 | peterrooney | valdyn: might give pause for thought, and further research |
| 09:21.22 | bartmon | Hi! I'm testing out fail2ban with sshd and it's not doing its stuff at all. First of all it doesn't recognise subsequent failed auth attempts in a session and once the ban is supposed to be in effect I can still login from thaat WAN IP. Do you have similar experiences? |
| 09:21.26 | xingu | in the "swap vs noswap" grand chess game what currently matters isn't actually snapshot totals in mapped memory but rather the rate at which memory is dirtied (vs reclaimed) |
| 09:22.30 | Bushmills | bartmon: maybe you have a ssh accept rule in your firewall before jumping to fail2ban table |
| 09:23.31 | Bushmills | well, anyway, you can check its operation by examining your iptables rules |
| 09:23.54 | bartmon | Bushmills: Thanks, I do have shorewall installed and it adds some of its own rules. |
| 09:24.11 | valdyn | bartmon: shorewall works nicely with fail2ban on my system |
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| 09:25.01 | valdyn | bartmon: fail2ban rule should be at the top, just look it up -> iptables -L |
| 09:25.33 | bartmon | valdyn: from what I see it is on top of the INPUT chain |
| 09:25.54 | valdyn | bartmon: and the policy of the input chain is what? |
| 09:26.20 | bartmon | valdyn: Sorrym I should have written OUTPUT |
| 09:26.30 | brunner | valdyn: someone was speaking to me elsewhere, ass |
| 09:26.36 | brunner | xingu: thank you for the explanation |
| 09:26.39 | Bushmills | eh? |
| 09:26.44 | bartmon | valdyn: No, wait, I was right the first time, lol |
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| 09:26.59 | valdyn | brunner: ass? |
| 09:27.25 | bartmon | valdyn: The policy of INPUT is accept |
| 09:27.32 | brunner | valdyn: I suppose that if you could understand my text you wouldn't need to ask for clarification, to paraphrase your words |
| 09:27.52 | valdyn | brunner: no, you got that wrong |
| 09:28.10 | brunner | valdyn: how so? |
| 09:28.19 | xingu | if you have 20-and-change GB/s worth of memory bandwidth vs 100-500MB/s worth of IO bandwidth, 8GB physical, and say 6 CPU cores it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to work out what happens if you have a foo-to-bar filter that reads one 4GB file and spits it out again transformed; meanwhile, ponder the effect on _other_ applications running concurrently. |
| 09:28.30 | brunner | valdyn: sorry, I'm probably just tired and cranky. I apologize |
| 09:28.35 | brunner | take care folks |
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| 09:28.55 | valdyn | brunner: i said that if you completely understood xingus text then you wouldnt come here and ask questions, there's nothing offensive in that, so you dont need to call me names |
| 09:29.45 | valdyn | bartmon: i dont know what its doing in the OUTPUT chain |
| 09:29.52 | xingu | notes that "tar xjf" qualifies as a foo to bar converter |
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| 09:30.23 | ompaul | xingu: only in the context of bz2ing your life away |
| 09:30.29 | xingu | :) |
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| 09:32.51 | valdyn | bartmon: it should be in the INPUT chain and the chain itself should RETURN all but currently blacklisted |
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| 09:36.42 | jason404 | why am I getting apache error.log (new server) saying... |
| 09:36.43 | jason404 | File does not exist: /etc/apache2/htdocs |
| 09:37.03 | jason404 | that location does not even exist in debian, and I cannot see anythng wrong with my vhosts file |
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| 09:39.10 | wols_ | jason404: debian doesn't use a vhosts file |
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| 09:39.54 | jason404 | wols_: the files in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ what are they called then? |
| 09:41.01 | wols_ | I was assuming you created a single file for all vhosts. and: you didn't specify the document root most likeley |
| 09:41.04 | EyesIsMine | sites. |
| 09:41.04 | wols_ | *likely |
| 09:41.12 | EyesIsMine | I hate DocumentRoot |
| 09:41.22 | EyesIsMine | It gives me nothing but 403 errors |
| 09:41.32 | jason404 | docuemt root is set |
| 09:41.54 | jason404 | it's set to /var/www/sitename |
| 09:41.59 | jason404 | everything looks fine |
| 09:42.09 | valdyn | jason404: you know that sites-available is not runtime configuration? |
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| 09:42.18 | EyesIsMine | It's /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 09:42.20 | valdyn | jason404: sites-enabled is |
| 09:42.22 | jason404 | valdyn: yes |
| 09:42.38 | valdyn | jason404: alrigth then |
| 09:42.59 | jason404 | enabled just has symlinks pointing the the actual files in sites-available |
| 09:43.15 | valdyn | jason404: at least thats how its intended, yes |
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| 09:57.10 | jason404 | right, I think I found the problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=569026 |
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| 09:58.07 | lol37 | hi |
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| 09:58.26 | lol37 | how to enforce loading nvidia module with startx ? |
| 09:59.00 | wols_ | lol37: dpkg -l |grep nvidia to check if everything needed is actually installed |
| 09:59.08 | lol37 | already installed |
| 09:59.12 | lol37 | i installed nvidia-glx |
| 09:59.17 | wols_ | !tell lol37 about nvidia dkms |
| 09:59.26 | wols_ | nvidia-glx is not the only thing you need |
| 09:59.38 | lol37 | it installs dependencies |
| 09:59.59 | lol37 | dkms included |
| 10:00.01 | somiaj | you have to write a custom xorg.conf file, I belive there is a nvidia-config that attempts to just that. |
| 10:00.05 | wols_ | you don't want to follow the advice given, I stop giving it. good luck |
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| 10:00.29 | lol37 | somiaj : i will try it |
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| 10:01.13 | somiaj | hmm, seems package name is nvidia-xconfig -- though I have nevr used it I just wrote my own xorg.conf file |
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| 10:03.12 | lol37 | my x server can't be launched |
| 10:03.19 | lol37 | damn :/ |
| 10:03.38 | somiaj | check the xorg log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) to see what is wrong in your config file |
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| 10:04.11 | lol37 | it tries to load 4 differents and wrong modules |
| 10:04.17 | lol37 | then stop saying no screens found |
| 10:04.34 | somiaj | look for EE lines |
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| 10:05.14 | lol37 | failed to load module "nv" "nouveau" "vesa" "fbdev" |
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| 10:06.07 | somiaj | lol37: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configure_X_to_use_the_nvidia_driver |
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| 10:06.31 | babilen | lol37: If you look at the factoid dpkg told you about on wols_ behalf, you will have a one-liner that creates a nvidia specific configuration file. That is *all* that is needed to configure the X server. In particular you do not need a monolithic xorg.conf |
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| 10:07.04 | lol37 | the nvidia script from official website do it well |
| 10:07.23 | lol37 | dunno why it doesn't with the package |
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| 10:08.56 | babilen | lol37: If you use the installer from upstream you should ask for support in #nvidia -- How is the x server configured? (Please paste applicable configuration files) and your Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net -- I assume that you followed the factoid before restarting. |
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| 10:43.40 | TrueColors | Ok... I'm not looking for debian help, but... there was someone in here a long time ago (according to this: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/20050305.html.gz) called Devilbunny. He use to be in the PHPFreaks irc, though he disappeared some time ago - curious where the hell he went? |
| 10:43.46 | TrueColors | If any of you know, let me know... xD |
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| 10:46.17 | TrueColors | Ooh.. just had a look at the log list.. |
| 10:46.19 | TrueColors | this was in 2005... |
| 10:46.20 | TrueColors | damn |
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| 10:48.44 | thewanderer1 | how do I make every WM start a command on session init? I've put some commands in .Xsession, but they apparently are not executed by GDM on awesome start. |
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| 10:50.14 | Python1320 | Anyone happens to know any lightweight linux web server with case insensitive search in case the file is not found, like http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_speling.html ? |
| 10:50.42 | thewanderer1 | Python1320: make your own error handler pages that solve this problem |
| 10:51.35 | Python1320 | Still need a web server for that, I wouldn't want to try to make one from scratch.. |
| 10:51.41 | Bushmills | you may be able to bind mount the web directory with case insensitive file name option |
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| 10:51.58 | Bushmills | not verified, just a thought |
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| 10:54.26 | thewanderer1 | Python1320: lighttpd |
| 10:54.51 | asdjaputra | agree with thewanderer1 |
| 10:55.03 | asdjaputra | but lighttpd could get Invalid URLs a lot |
| 10:55.07 | asdjaputra | like in facebookapps |
| 10:55.08 | asdjaputra | twitter |
| 10:55.09 | asdjaputra | youtube |
| 10:55.34 | thewanderer1 | what... |
| 10:55.47 | asdjaputra | with light weightness, comes light of smartness |
| 10:55.59 | asdjaputra | thewanderer1: lighttpd |
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| 10:56.55 | thewanderer1 | I did understand the words, but I didn't quite get what you mean the problem with lighttpd is |
| 10:57.20 | asdjaputra | many websites with lighttpd suffers frequent Invalid URL error |
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| 10:57.30 | asdjaputra | i'm quite sure it's because of lighttpd |
| 10:57.59 | thewanderer1 | are you sure it's not because of Chinese-made Inter® chips inside or maybe solar flares? ... |
| 10:58.26 | asdjaputra | facebook? ohoh no |
| 10:58.39 | asdjaputra | twitter? ohoh no |
| 10:58.42 | asdjaputra | youtube? ohoh no |
| 10:58.51 | thewanderer1 | come on, stop talking nonsense |
| 10:58.54 | asdjaputra | idk though it can also be the server's fault |
| 10:59.19 | asdjaputra | i'm pretty sure its lighttpd's |
| 10:59.23 | asdjaputra | IMO |
| 10:59.30 | Bushmills | that it gets requests is the server's fault? |
| 10:59.52 | thewanderer1 | if the URL is wrong, it's wrong, and it's not related to the server whatsoever |
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| 11:00.10 | asdjaputra | invalid url != wrong URL |
| 11:00.21 | Bushmills | one would look at "why to the requests get there in first place" |
| 11:00.25 | Bushmills | do |
| 11:00.26 | asdjaputra | i opened twitter's root page |
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| 11:00.42 | asdjaputra | and it shows URL "/" is not valid |
| 11:00.55 | Bushmills | how is that related to your web server? |
| 11:01.09 | Bushmills | or do you mean twitter uses lighttpd as web server? |
| 11:01.16 | asdjaputra | yes they do |
| 11:01.45 | Bushmills | you got that from twitter web server's log file? |
| 11:02.09 | asdjaputra | wanna see the link? |
| 11:02.25 | ompaul | no link it is not true ... |
| 11:02.38 | Bushmills | not sure - i prefer to first understand what problem you describe |
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| 11:02.54 | asdjaputra | twitter/youtube/apps.facebook.com usually suffers Invalid URL error |
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| 11:03.09 | asdjaputra | whether that is caused by down server, or lighttpd |
| 11:03.15 | asdjaputra | it's |
| 11:03.50 | Bushmills | those services report "invalid URL" on trying to access valid urls? |
| 11:03.56 | asdjaputra | http://redmine.lighttpd.net/wiki/1/PoweredByLighttpd |
| 11:04.01 | asdjaputra | yes they do |
| 11:04.37 | asdjaputra | i opened "/" and it shows me the error |
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| 11:04.52 | Bushmills | i can't find any "invalid" on that page |
| 11:05.15 | asdjaputra | Bushmills: that's why i said sometimes, and not currently |
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| 11:05.39 | asdjaputra | and i thought it was the lighttpd's fault so yeah, i don't recommend Python1320 to use it |
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| 11:08.48 | valdyn | asdjaputra: if you could point us to the bug report, that would help |
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| 11:11.21 | asdjaputra | http://redmine.lighttpd.net/wiki/1/HowToFightDeepLinking |
| 11:11.38 | asdjaputra | so every person that tries to copy twitter's index.html will make it invalid |
| 11:11.57 | asdjaputra | that's not really it actually |
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| 11:12.35 | asdjaputra | i was just saying that I'm *quite sure* that invalid URL's are lighttpd's fault |
| 11:14.09 | valdyn | asdjaputra: http://redmine.lighttpd.net/issues/2288 is similar, but you said nothing about https |
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| 11:16.36 | asdjaputra | valdyn: wait let me check twitter using https |
| 11:17.15 | asdjaputra | nope, that's not the problem |
| 11:17.34 | asdjaputra | some time of the day, twitter works, and the rest of it, it doesn't :( |
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| 11:18.33 | asdjaputra | valdyn: is it also possible that the server's down and the web host don't know what to post? |
| 11:18.37 | Iridos | simple... your dad configured a firewall to return "incorrect url" on webpages he doesn't want you to access at certain times a day |
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| 11:19.11 | asdjaputra | Iridos: my dad can't even open the router's config page |
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| 11:19.39 | Iridos | YOR MUM |
| 11:19.46 | asdjaputra | is using 98 |
| 11:19.49 | asdjaputra | W98. |
| 11:20.05 | asdjaputra | tell me again YOR SISTER |
| 11:20.12 | asdjaputra | :D |
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| 11:20.37 | ompaul | fantastic use of #debian, so clueful ;-) |
| 11:20.40 | ompaul | hides |
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| 11:21.14 | asdjaputra | seeks ompaul |
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| 11:22.01 | Iridos | nah, yor sister dun't care if you twote all over the place 24/7 |
| 11:22.13 | asdjaputra | 哈哈 |
| 11:22.18 | Iridos | twit* |
| 11:22.27 | asdjaputra | twot ;) |
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| 11:23.45 | anigma | what's the easiest way to change the resolution in GDM? |
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| 11:24.06 | asdjaputra | anigma setterm? |
| 11:24.41 | asdjaputra | uh nvm |
| 11:25.06 | anigma | what does that have to do with GDM? |
| 11:25.12 | asdjaputra | nvm |
| 11:25.26 | asdjaputra | setterm can change attribute to a terminal |
| 11:25.29 | asdjaputra | turn the monitor off/on |
| 11:25.33 | asdjaputra | even for tty7 |
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| 11:26.01 | asdjaputra | anigma: http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/open-source/79919-how-change-gdm-resolution-gutsy.html |
| 11:26.04 | Iridos | anigma, I don't think gdm chooses resolution... X chooses one, then gdm3 runs on top of that? |
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| 11:28.23 | Iridos | aargh |
| 11:28.58 | Iridos | please don't link to dicsussions where one clueless discusses with other cluelesses |
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| 11:29.31 | asdjaputra | :) haven't read it all yet, found out there's no solution |
| 11:29.41 | asdjaputra | i always paste the first one that comes out, you know that? |
| 11:29.44 | asdjaputra | my bad |
| 11:30.04 | Iridos | well, READ first... so painful to read those, only worth it if finally someone with a clue joins in |
| 11:30.09 | neil | I have a little box running debian/lenny when I reset it the front lights turn off/on :-) ... but when I use 'shutdown -h now' the front lights don't turn off :-( ... are there different scirpt run for these two actions? |
| 11:30.29 | asdjaputra | Iridos: ok will take the advice |
| 11:30.37 | Iridos | much appreciated |
| 11:31.11 | asdjaputra | sudo poweroff or sudo halt |
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| 11:31.14 | Iridos | actually, everytime I google for a problem and find an ubuntu thread, I seriously consider not wading through it and solve the problem myself or leave it unsolved |
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| 11:31.40 | asdjaputra | is that an offending statement ;-) |
| 11:31.52 | asdjaputra | you mean ubuntu forums are most likely have unsolved threads? |
| 11:32.08 | Iridos | neil, what hardware is that on a "little box"? |
| 11:32.28 | asdjaputra | "Intel Xeon server" :-) |
| 11:32.33 | neil | Iridos, a DreamPlug |
| 11:32.55 | Iridos | mmh, that's arm |
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| 11:33.38 | neil | Iridos, yes. |
| 11:33.40 | ompaul | asdjaputra: if you really need to be told here you go, that is about ubuntu so it may not apply in debian, it is about gutsy which is iirc 2007, so gdm may have changed since then. Also it is not the debian way so there you go again pointing at things which may or may not work on Debian. But lets not get too into it. |
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| 11:33.47 | Iridos | anigma, is the gdm3 greeter resolution different from the one after login? |
| 11:34.46 | asdjaputra | ompaul: oh ic. ubuntu's spirit is way different from debian's. i'll behave, sorry :-( |
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| 11:35.55 | Iridos | actually gdm DID change... it's gdm3 since squeeze |
| 11:36.58 | babilen | Iridos: As you already mentioned: It is X, not gdm3 that is of importance here. |
| 11:37.10 | Iridos | anigma, also, I wonder why is it that you want to change gdm greeter resolution? is the login out of view? |
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| 11:37.50 | asdjaputra | anigma edit /etc/gdm/Init/Default |
| 11:37.56 | Iridos | babilen, probably. gdm could use some low resolution instead of the default, though |
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| 11:39.14 | babilen | Iridos: Not that I know of, but I typically don't spend much time thinking about gdm{,3}. I am therefore not entirely sure that it does not mess with the resolution, but would be mildly surprised if it does. |
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| 11:39.38 | Iridos | don't see it doing any |
| 11:41.36 | asdjaputra | anigma: do xrandr -q |
| 11:41.49 | asdjaputra | find out which is your screen and what it's resolution is |
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| 11:42.09 | asdjaputra | the resolution is marked by an asterisk |
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| 11:42.51 | Iridos | he can't just do that when gdm3 is running. That would need him to get the magic cookie for X first |
| 11:43.10 | Iridos | anyway, he seems gone |
| 11:43.19 | asdjaputra | wait a second i'm not done yet |
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| 11:43.53 | asdjaputra | do xrandr --output <name of monitor> --mode <width x height> to test if it works well |
| 11:44.10 | bartmon | any fail2ban users here? |
| 11:44.16 | asdjaputra | and if all goes well, edit /etc/gdm/Init/Default |
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| 11:44.40 | babilen | bartmon: Just asked, those that can answer will if they are so inclined. |
| 11:44.45 | asdjaputra | and add xrandr --output <monitor name> --mode <width x height> before the /sbin/initct1 -q <...> line |
| 11:44.47 | babilen | s/asked/ask/ |
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| 11:45.22 | jmd | I have a question about keyboards. Firstly there's a command to show you the scancodes. Can anyone remember what it is? Second how do I set the layout on an individual basis? |
| 11:45.41 | mosno | jmd: showkey |
| 11:45.57 | mosno | jmd: define "individual" |
| 11:47.08 | jmd | A single entity. |
| 11:47.33 | thewanderer1 | like, for a console user? |
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| 11:48.06 | jmd | For whoever is using the keyboard. |
| 11:48.15 | babilen | jmd: xev maybe? |
| 11:49.07 | jmd | So far as I'm aware, X only knows about one keyboard per server. |
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| 11:49.33 | jmd | Also I'd like to be able to do it at a lower level, because I don't use X all the time. |
| 11:49.38 | Iridos | neil, dunno how power management is called for arm devices... it's acpi for PC hardware... hmm this post http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg01205.html says the regular linux power management commands should work... so I guess it should switch off |
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| 11:52.43 | neil | Iridos, it does go thought the scripts and shutdown but the lights stay on... :-( ... it looks like I need to modify /etc/rc0.d/S90halt script |
| 11:53.28 | MrFrood | jmd: just a guess but would the loadkeys command in a users shell-rc file do what you want? |
| 11:54.29 | jmd | Perhaps, but so far as I'm aware, there's no way to tell it which keyboard you want it to modify. It seems to do all of them. |
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| 11:55.03 | Iridos | neil, dunno, the hardware might just not support it? All things I see on the web about plugs seem to indicate that for the posters, the device doesn't switch off on powerdown |
| 11:56.25 | MrFrood | jmd: "The affected console device or devices can be specified using the -C (or --console ) option." |
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| 11:57.04 | neil | Iridos, I realise it doesn't actually turn the power off. What I want to know is when it is safe to pull the plug. I thought getting the lights to switch off would be a good indication. |
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| 11:57.27 | jmd | MrFrood: Hmm. So how do I know the id of a particular keyboard? |
| 11:57.51 | MrFrood | no idea |
| 11:58.26 | jmd | Also according to the man page, no such option exists. |
| 11:59.01 | MrFrood | jmd: the quote was from the man page (on stable) |
| 11:59.40 | jmd | You must have a different stable to me. |
| 11:59.55 | MrFrood | squeeze |
| 12:00.56 | ompaul | jmd: there only ever one stable at any one time |
| 12:01.16 | jmd | ompaul: That's what I thought. |
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| 12:01.37 | jmd | So why does MrFrood's stable have a different manpage to my stable. |
| 12:01.40 | MrFrood | jmd: It's from the ddesription section of the man page |
| 12:01.56 | Iridos | neil, look in /sys/power/state hmm, and search for power in /proc (won't be /proc/acpi/button/power as on pcs, though, but there might be an equivalent) |
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| 12:02.55 | Iridos | neil, oh... if you got a computer, just ping it? |
| 12:03.01 | cas_ | hi |
| 12:03.33 | jmd | http://paste2.org/p/1643644 |
| 12:03.38 | cas_ | anyone know how to set the default login session in gdm3 3.0.4-2? |
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| 12:04.00 | thewanderer1 | cas_: update-alternatives --config x-session-manager ? |
| 12:04.22 | neil | Iridos, with ping that would stop before the shutdown is complete. |
| 12:04.40 | Iridos | why do you think so? |
| 12:04.42 | cas_ | thewanderer1: tried that. gives me a choice between gnome-session and openbox-session. I want gnome-fallback. |
| 12:04.50 | Iridos | little bit before |
| 12:04.52 | Iridos | not a lot |
| 12:05.00 | Iridos | stops when networking goes down |
| 12:05.04 | thewanderer1 | cas_: maybe do a symlink manually |
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| 12:06.44 | MrFrood | jmd: http://paste2.org/p/1643661 |
| 12:07.19 | AndroidBeing | I have a NIS server setup, and have configure another machine as a slave, I now need to switch roles. What is involved with this? |
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| 12:07.41 | cas_ | thewanderer1: doh! should have thought of that. |
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| 12:07.53 | cas_ | this should do it "update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-session-manager x-session-manager /usr/bin/gnome-session-fallback 10 --slave /usr/share/man/man1/x-session-manager.1.gz x-session-manager.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/gnome-session.1.gz" |
| 12:08.00 | MrFrood | can someone on squeeze check the man page for http://paste2.org/p/1643661 andd compare it to mine & jmd's pastes please |
| 12:08.35 | MrFrood | *manpage for loadkeys |
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| 12:09.36 | Iridos | MrFrood, I got the bit that was quoted (searched for affect) |
| 12:09.42 | Iridos | but too lazy to compare |
| 12:10.08 | Iridos | judd, versions kbd |
| 12:10.08 | judd | Package kbd on i386 -- lenny: 1.14.1-4; squeeze: 1.15.2-2; sid: 1.15.3-6; wheezy: 1.15.3-6 |
| 12:10.28 | Iridos | 1.15.2-2; check |
| 12:10.41 | thewanderer1 | Mr_Queue: mine seems to match your link, does not exactly match jmd's manpage |
| 12:10.51 | MrFrood | Iridos: the quoted bit means you have the same as me |
| 12:11.07 | MrFrood | thewanderer1: ta |
| 12:11.39 | jmd | Odd. I wonder why mine's different. |
| 12:11.43 | Iridos | so what he has is Not Debian(tm) |
| 12:11.46 | Iridos | jmd, dpkg -l kbd |
| 12:12.12 | Iridos | actually the sentence also appears on lenny |
| 12:12.12 | asdjaputra | anigma: you still there? |
| 12:12.19 | cas_ | thewanderer1: thanks, that seems to work. |
| 12:12.30 | cas_ | bye |
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| 12:12.46 | jmd | Iridos not installed |
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| 12:13.20 | Iridos | jmd, then you should find out where you got loadkeys and its manpage from... |
| 12:13.30 | hartzie | does someone know why i keep getting updates for the linux kernel 2.6.32-5? |
| 12:13.32 | thewanderer1 | hmm... I wonder what `lsb_release -a` says there... |
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| 12:13.44 | jmd | Iridos: console-tools |
| 12:13.51 | thewanderer1 | hartzie: there have been security updates and regressions lately, it's supposed to be like that |
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| 12:14.18 | hartzie | ok thewanderer1 thanks :D |
| 12:14.22 | Iridos | jmd, not installed |
| 12:14.55 | Iridos | guess that explains it |
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| 12:15.04 | becker_11 | hi my wireless driver is loaded but it isn't mapped to wlan0 can anyone tell me how to make it right |
| 12:15.28 | jmd | Looks like kbd and console-tools are mutually exclusive alternatives |
| 12:15.41 | Iridos | yes |
| 12:16.10 | jmd | Anyway, it looks as if neither are going to do what I want. |
| 12:16.19 | Iridos | ours is the default one, though |
| 12:16.32 | Iridos | what? I thought the -C option IS waht you wanted |
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| 12:17.47 | jmd | Iridos: Maybe. I'll check it out. |
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| 12:24.25 | becker_11 | just thinking I may not have the right packages installed for wireless on my eee pc the driver is loaded but the interface isn't being detected by the network manager could anyone tell me what packages should be installed for it too work please |
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| 12:49.40 | maxking | I have a dependency problem in my squeeze installation |
| 12:50.12 | maxking | I have some 12 broken pakages and so i am not able to resolve dependencies |
| 12:50.16 | maxking | Any help? |
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| 12:52.11 | zykotick9 | maxking, have you tried "apt-get -f install"? Perhaps if you have a pastebin with the actual error(s) the channel could help more. |
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| 12:59.45 | develstream | is it possible compile debian linux kernel with intel compiler ? |
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| 12:59.51 | iKiro | is there a way to make X multiuser login? |
| 13:00.24 | thewanderer1 | iKiro: X already supports multi-user login, you can have many sessions |
| 13:01.09 | iKiro | thewanderer1: is there a guide for this? |
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| 13:02.28 | thewanderer1 | iKiro: what is your problem? on GNOME, you can lock the screen, press "new login" and you are presented with another session... |
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| 13:03.13 | jmd | develstream: I didn't know that intel sold compilers. |
| 13:03.18 | iKiro | thewanderer1: I'm not using gnome. |
| 13:03.20 | freeone3000 | So I'm attempting to install from a flash drive on a system with no CD-ROM. Tried both businesscard and netinstall ISOs. Both prompt for CD drives. Why? How can I get something that's fine with just installing from USB? |
| 13:03.48 | _SKiTZO | i noticed that my debian box wont power down the screen. i dont have xorg installed, just a regular terminal |
| 13:03.54 | _SKiTZO | how can i fix that? |
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| 13:04.06 | thewanderer1 | iKiro: what are you using, then? usually, this is carried out by a display manager, frequently supported by the desktop environment. |
| 13:04.25 | iKiro | thewanderer1: I know. I'm using awesome wm. |
| 13:04.46 | freeone3000 | (Can't be all the previous installs I've tried with this USB drive, I'm wiping the boot sector each time.) |
| 13:05.17 | iKiro | the PCs here will need to use multiple WMs, customizable for each user. |
| 13:05.21 | dvs | freeone3000: ...or you can put the ISO on the flash drive? |
| 13:05.38 | freeone3000 | dvs: Won't recognize it as a *drive*. |
| 13:05.54 | freeone3000 | dvs: Besides, with a netinstall, it should be grabbing it from the internet anyway. |
| 13:06.00 | zykotick9 | freeone3000, [unsupported suggestion] you might want to try Unetbootin to see if it works. |
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| 13:06.27 | dvs | freeone3000: how are you putting the ISO into the flash drive? |
| 13:06.53 | freeone3000 | dvs: Copying it onto the FAT partition after dding in the install .img. |
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| 13:07.25 | dvs | freeone3000: dd the .img or .iso file? |
| 13:07.47 | freeone3000 | dvs: usb-hdd installs are distributed as .img files. |
| 13:07.56 | dvs | freeone3000: dd the .iso file |
| 13:08.04 | freeone3000 | dvs: Okay. |
| 13:08.43 | thewanderer1 | iKiro: apparently under GDM it was handled by "gdmflexiserver", no longer supported as of gdm3... you'll have to trace what GNOME does |
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| 13:09.10 | freeone3000 | Hmm. Alright, that seemed to work. Now it's complaining about a specific missing driver which it doesn't seem to need anyway. Thanks. :) |
| 13:09.26 | _SKiTZO | ok after googling some more i figured out that i probably want to use "setterm" to enable "DPMS", however isnt there some config already where I can just switch this on? |
| 13:09.27 | iKiro | thewanderer1: thanks man. will look it up. |
| 13:10.43 | zykotick9 | thewanderer1, gdmfliexiserver is no longer supported? It seems to be working on here (squeeze with gdm3)? |
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| 13:11.15 | dvs | freeone3000: np |
| 13:11.22 | thewanderer1 | zykotick9: strange. here it returns a bucketful of DBUS messages :P |
| 13:11.35 | thewanderer1 | maybe it depends on some strange GNOME proxy/bridge DBUS service... ah, dbus is a mess |
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| 13:17.15 | g00se | Never had a kernel oops before. Wondering if this is serious- happening for other processes, e.g. chromium-browse too: http://pastebin.com/HVNR6jgT |
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| 13:18.45 | thewanderer1 | damn commercialist yankee portal with ads not letting me in and requesting both CAPTCHA and cookies, bummer |
| 13:19.00 | Gh0sty | hello, just performed dist-upgrade to testing (wheezy) from stable (squeeze) ... but my kvm machines can't find the hard disk device anymore ... (my first guess would be something to do with the uuid's can't really find any information at a first google?) |
| 13:19.36 | Gh0sty | I use lvm for my disks and the xml file contains /dev/vg01/lv01 for disk |
| 13:20.00 | thewanderer1 | Gh0sty: it's libvirt, isn't it? might not even be KVM's fault |
| 13:20.11 | Gh0sty | or yes libvirt |
| 13:20.51 | thewanderer1 | check your permissions |
| 13:20.53 | Gh0sty | but not sure how to debug actually ... I found a log in /etc/libvirt/qemu/ but there it just says it already tries to start it with uuid's ... |
| 13:21.06 | Gh0sty | what should have changed? |
| 13:21.27 | thewanderer1 | like the user that qemu-kvm is run as does not have access to the device file |
| 13:21.37 | Gh0sty | ergh that should have been /var/log/libvirt/qemu/ |
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| 13:30.38 | Gh0sty | hmmz friend is suggesting that I should have used virtio, my disks are scsi emulation ... |
| 13:30.59 | Gh0sty | the virtual machine starts but just reports no HD found ... |
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| 13:32.17 | thewanderer1 | Gh0sty: in either case, libvirt silently ignores disks that it can't access (like that behaviour is perfectly fine, heh) |
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| 13:37.04 | DimitryKakadu | Hi all! |
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| 13:37.33 | DimitryKakadu | Does anybody use `newest` Intel i7s with integrated video to processor? |
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| 13:38.43 | nsadmin | DimitryKakadu, my guess is not just anybody |
| 13:39.18 | ompaul | DimitryKakadu: have you some other question? |
| 13:39.22 | nsadmin | for every i7 in a computer, there's an owner, and that person would use it |
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| 13:39.35 | nsadmin | !ask |
| 13:39.36 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:39.41 | nsadmin | !sicco |
| 13:39.42 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 13:40.05 | nsadmin | and respond quickly. respect people |
| 13:40.09 | nsadmin | and their time. |
| 13:40.11 | DimitryKakadu | hmm |
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| 13:40.50 | EClaesson | Hi, my internet connection is a bit unstable. It drops connection (to internet, not gateway/router) for a minute every 10-15 minutes or so. It must be something wrong with the drivers/config as if i boot windows on this computer this problem does not occour. What can be wrong? |
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| 13:41.41 | ompaul | eh no, your machine could be behaving correctly and the router you are connecting to is saying I'll give you a different IP ever 15 minutes |
| 13:42.00 | nsadmin | EClaesson, trying to make a series of guesses on "what can be wrong" is wasteful. find out what REALLY IS wrong. |
| 13:42.22 | EClaesson | ompaul: The problem doesn't occour when i boot windows, or any other computer |
| 13:42.35 | EClaesson | nsadmin: Yes, sorry. I meant more like: How do i find out whats wrong? :P |
| 13:42.39 | maxking | Hi, i am using debian sqeeze, i am having a problem with resolving dependencies(essential perl-modules) because of some broken packages |
| 13:42.48 | DimitryKakadu | Does Intel Integrated (to CPU) Graphics is support by linux? It means is it usable and can I found drivers for it in repository? I'm going to buy new computer and I'm interesting is such graphics, because I don't like nVidia cards. |
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| 13:43.10 | maxking | I tries out with apt-get -f install but same story |
| 13:43.29 | nsadmin | EClaesson, it's interesting that win works without this problem and linux does not. that means the problem is in software. |
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| 13:43.48 | EClaesson | nsadmin: Exactly, and other computers on the same network works fine |
| 13:43.58 | ompaul | DimitryKakadu: I have a sandybridge laptop, it only runs kernel 3.0 or higher I'm on SID |
| 13:44.11 | EClaesson | nsadmin: So my guess is that it's my drivers or my config that's messed up (or something related) |
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| 13:45.00 | nsadmin | what is the shape of your internal net? where is the problem machine in that net? |
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| 13:45.23 | DimitryKakadu | ompaul: what about hardware acceleration? |
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| 13:46.09 | ompaul | DimitryKakadu: what about it? |
| 13:46.19 | DimitryKakadu | ompaul: it works? |
| 13:46.38 | ompaul | DimitryKakadu: maybe you should ask if I use it. I don't. |
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| 13:47.09 | DimitryKakadu | ompaul: I understand. |
| 13:47.16 | ompaul | DimitryKakadu: I use the default intel graphics driver and enjoy it (btw stay away from non intel graphics on new hardware, it is a real pain) |
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| 13:47.30 | mosno | ompaul +1 |
| 13:47.38 | EClaesson | nsadmin: The same as all other computers. We have a server that acts as router, and i'm connected to that one |
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| 13:48.01 | DimitryKakadu | ompaul: thanks. |
| 13:48.22 | ompaul | DimitryKakadu: you are welcome, I hope you enjoy your new computer. |
| 13:49.22 | blubberdiblub | DimitryKakadu, ompaul, the default intel graphics driver has some 3d acceleration. many opengl games run fine on my eeepc which has intel graphics |
| 13:49.25 | nsadmin | EClaesson, what shall we name this server (for purpose of this conversation)? |
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| 13:50.31 | EClaesson | nsadmin: We call it Vanilla, for some odd reason.. :P |
| 13:50.43 | EClaesson | The guy who installed it named it so |
| 13:51.02 | DimitryKakadu | blubberdiblub: does this driver use video integrated to the motherboard or to CPU? |
| 13:51.04 | nsadmin | ok, how many computers use Vanilla as gateway? |
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| 13:51.30 | EClaesson | nsadmin: 3 |
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| 13:51.41 | EClaesson | 4 sometimes |
| 13:52.13 | nsadmin | ok, and of the computers that have this issue of off for a minute, only the one? |
| 13:52.13 | babilen | DimitryKakadu: FWIW, with xorg from backports/wheezy/sid you should have hw accellerated graphics with intel hd 3000 (sandybridge) -- I use it without problems on sid. Problematic is the kernel, as 3.0 has not entered backports yet, so you have to build it yourself or run wheezy/sid. |
| 13:52.51 | blubberdiblub | DimitryKakadu, i don't know. how do i check that? |
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| 13:53.15 | DimitryKakadu | blubberdiblub: what is your CPU model? |
| 13:53.20 | EClaesson | nsadmin: Yes, only one |
| 13:53.38 | nsadmin | ok. |
| 13:53.44 | DimitryKakadu | babilen: OK, thanks. |
| 13:54.00 | blubberdiblub | DimitryKakadu, intel atom N270 |
| 13:54.38 | nsadmin | thinking about all the computers using Vanilla as gateway, what do they have in common? what's different about the failing one? |
| 13:54.53 | nsadmin | also, what OS is Vanilla running? |
| 13:55.28 | EClaesson | nsadmin: The working ones are running Windows XP, the one that doesn't work correctly is running Debian Stable |
| 13:55.36 | EClaesson | Vanilla is running Ubuntu 10.xx |
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| 13:55.52 | DimitryKakadu | blubberdiblub: I think you have not GPU in CPU |
| 13:56.07 | blubberdiblub | DimitryKakadu, yeah, it's probably too old |
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| 13:57.10 | nsadmin | I may do nothing here except gether and organize info; there is a chance that the easiest way of finding what's going on, is to network analysis hardware on the net behind Vanilla and watch it to see what happens during and just before the minute the debian box is cut off |
| 13:58.18 | nsadmin | one possibility that comes to mind is the debian box is receiving a new IP from dhcp server that may be running on Vanilla |
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| 14:01.25 | ompaul | EClaesson: which says volumes about someone saying: eh no, your machine could be behaving correctly and the router you are connecting to is saying I'll give you a different IP ever 15 minutes, and that is really strange |
| 14:02.50 | fasta | If I press the i on my keyboard I get the ' when I run it in qemu. I selected the default layout on a US International keyboard. Why? |
| 14:02.57 | fasta | Virtualbox had no such issues doing the exact same operation. |
| 14:03.11 | EClaesson | nsadmin: Okay. There is a dhcp server on Vanilla, yes |
| 14:03.18 | fasta | This is during installation of the latest stable release of Debian Squeeze. |
| 14:03.36 | ompaul | yay competition |
| 14:04.13 | ompaul | fasta: key mapping wrong from the off? |
| 14:04.23 | fasta | ompaul: wrong from the off? |
| 14:04.28 | ompaul | from the install |
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| 14:04.37 | ompaul | beginning when it started etc |
| 14:04.55 | fasta | ompaul: I did the exact same thing as on my physical machine. |
| 14:05.15 | fasta | ompaul: and the exact same thing as in Virtualbox. I am not sure what I could possibly have done wrong. |
| 14:05.30 | fasta | If I press a , I get a \ too. |
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| 14:05.41 | fasta | All letters of the alphabet work, except the i. |
| 14:05.43 | ompaul | fasta: ok, keyboard is wrong |
| 14:06.02 | ompaul | somehow you need to tell it about another keyboard |
| 14:06.27 | ompaul | fasta: pc105 / 104 or something like that |
| 14:06.43 | fasta | ompaul: that is not an option in the installer. |
| 14:07.09 | fasta | ompaul: you can say for example dvorak, a bunch of languages, and the default. |
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| 14:07.19 | fasta | ompaul: not 'pc105'. |
| 14:07.28 | fasta | ompaul: I know you can configure that in Gnome, but this not Gnome. |
| 14:07.50 | ompaul | fasta: so if it is not gnome, what is it |
| 14:08.06 | fasta | ompaul: it is gtk+. |
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| 14:08.24 | fasta | ompaul: Gnome uses slightly more complicated components, AFAIK. |
| 14:08.34 | fasta | (which makes sense for an installer) |
| 14:08.35 | EClaesson_ | There my connection dropped again :( |
| 14:08.55 | iKiro | thewanderer1: i finally found a solution, in case you need multi-user functionality - slim login manager |
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| 14:09.26 | ompaul | EClaesson_: It's 99% tail your /var/log/syslog on your box and wait to see where its getting its ip from |
| 14:09.50 | ompaul | EClaesson_: I'll bet you that over two cycles it will be different boxes |
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| 14:10.41 | EClaesson_ | ompaul: Ok, i'll wait until the next drop and see what happends |
| 14:10.54 | ompaul | EClaesson_: tail -f /var/log/syslog |
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| 14:12.39 | thewanderer1 | iKiro: good... any easy way to call a new session? |
| 14:13.12 | EClaesson | ompaul, nsadmin: At least the last dhcp was on Vanilla, i'll check what happends on my next drop |
| 14:13.22 | EClaesson | Oh, ompaul isn't here :P |
| 14:15.52 | asdjaputra | lol at nyuszika7h's part message |
| 14:16.02 | EClaesson | :) |
| 14:16.18 | asdjaputra | anyone here using xmonad? |
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| 14:22.50 | thewanderer1 | how to make dircproxy prever IPv6 over IPv4? |
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| 14:27.22 | thewanderer1 | ok so another, more generic question: how to make the program believe only IPv6 is available? |
| 14:27.37 | thewanderer1 | maybe I can trick it into connecting over IPv6 |
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| 14:28.30 | iKiro | thewanderer1: still looking for a way to deal with the "switch user" gig. |
| 14:29.13 | thewanderer1 | it'd be really helpful to have a DM always run on one display and fork off sessions to other displays |
| 14:29.15 | Dagger3 | if you're using 6to4, you can fiddle with the rules in /etc/gai.conf to make it prefer that to ipv4 |
| 14:29.33 | Dagger3 | if you're using a native v6 range, it should prefer v6 automatically |
| 14:29.37 | thewanderer1 | Dagger3: no, I'm on normal IPv6 addresses |
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| 14:29.43 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, does the host you want it to connect to have a hostname that resolves to an AAAA record only? then you could use that hostname |
| 14:30.08 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: I don't know, I want to connect to Freenode... and chat.freenode.net resolves to A and AAAA |
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| 14:30.51 | rozie | hm. in this case v6 should be preferred, right? |
| 14:30.56 | Dagger3 | there's ipv6.chat.freenode.net |
| 14:31.06 | thewanderer1 | oh, didn't know that |
| 14:31.13 | thewanderer1 | rozie: I guess it depends on the application logic |
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| 14:31.43 | thewanderer1 | Dagger3: dead:beef:cafe nice addresses they have there :D |
| 14:32.00 | thewanderer1 | ok let's see anyway :P |
| 14:32.05 | Dagger3 | it should depend on the getaddrinfo() logic, which is what /etc/gai.conf configures |
| 14:32.59 | thewanderer1 | wow, so glibc functions have config files these days |
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| 14:34.37 | jelly-home | um... the resolver always had config files |
| 14:35.00 | thewanderer1 | I know about resolv.conf, yes |
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| 14:35.15 | thewanderer1 | but have a look at this, `getent hosts chat.freenode.net` returns IPv6 entries only |
| 14:35.29 | thewanderer1 | and still, somehow dircproxy manages to connect over IPv4... stubborn one |
| 14:36.01 | blubberdiblub | maybe it doesn't use the system resolver, but resolves them on its own? |
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| 14:36.41 | thewanderer1 | hm, sounds quite plausible |
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| 14:36.58 | thewanderer1 | I'll just connect to the Dead Beef Cafe then :) |
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| 14:37.59 | jelly-home | maybe getent hosts doesn't do the same thing as the app |
| 14:38.34 | EClaesson | nsadmin: Now my connection dropped again, but the dhcp seems to be on Vanilla (the server) every time |
| 14:38.42 | EClaesson | At least from what i understand of the log |
| 14:39.36 | thewanderer1 | hmm, it takes a strangely long time to look up ipv6.chat.freenode.net |
| 14:39.54 | centHOGG | are u sure its the protocol? |
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| 14:39.56 | nsadmin | how does Vanilla get its outward IP? |
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| 14:40.44 | EClaesson | nsadmin: Actually, i don't know |
| 14:40.58 | EClaesson | I don't know much about it at all |
| 14:41.07 | EClaesson | More than it's being replaced next week :P |
| 14:41.31 | thewanderer1 | guess what, dircproxy doesn't listen on tcp6 either! |
| 14:43.30 | thewanderer1 | ok, any sane IRC proxies out there that actually support IPv6? |
| 14:43.42 | thewanderer1 | or should I perhaps try some newer version... |
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| 14:44.04 | Dagger3 | I've been using ZNC on a v6-only VPS |
| 14:44.27 | thewanderer1 | oh, there's no newer dircproxy version. znc it is, then. |
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| 14:47.26 | Iuri | hi there, i want to install a pkg via apt-get install but i want to add a few parameters at the ./configure step |
| 14:47.31 | Iuri | how do I dod that? |
| 14:47.53 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, yes, znc does ipv6 alright. that's what i'm using |
| 14:47.57 | thewanderer1 | Iuri: this is not Gentoo, Debian does not compile packages at install time. you'll have to compile the package yourself. |
| 14:48.26 | thewanderer1 | uh, znc seems complex |
| 14:48.42 | Iuri | thewanderer1, how dos it install it then |
| 14:48.43 | Iuri | ? |
| 14:48.53 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, nope, it has a neat configuration utility. it walks you through the process |
| 14:49.10 | thewanderer1 | Iuri: it fetches a pre-compiled binary package and extracts it |
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| 14:49.50 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: like an ncurses script? I don't want a host-wide install, just for one user |
| 14:49.57 | Iuri | thewanderer1, in this case i should just download the pkg .deb and fix it to be compiled with my paramteres |
| 14:50.03 | Iuri | thewanderer1, is that possible? |
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| 14:50.24 | thewanderer1 | Iuri: no, download the source package instead and build it using debian/rules (it's a makefile) |
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| 14:50.37 | thewanderer1 | Iuri: apt-get source pkgname # will download the source for you |
| 14:50.37 | Iuri | hmm |
| 14:50.39 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, ncurses script? don't know what you mean. it's just a config utility that asks you questions. on the console, yes, if that's what you meant |
| 14:50.40 | Iuri | good idea |
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| 14:52.00 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: ok, I'll try it |
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| 14:52.22 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, you can also create the config by hand if you don't like the wizard. it's relatively easy. the config format is documented on the wiki |
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| 14:53.03 | TrueDD | Hi everybody ! |
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| 14:59.15 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: I assume you know what "[ !! ]is already running on this config. ]" means? |
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| 14:59.38 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, have you tried to start it twice? |
| 14:59.48 | thewanderer1 | sure |
| 15:00.04 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, why? once is enough |
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| 15:00.20 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: because it didn't work the first time, I guess |
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| 15:00.50 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, well, it looks like it's already running using the same config file, so it won't run a second time with the same config file |
| 15:01.09 | thewanderer1 | it's not running, lulz |
| 15:01.38 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, can you paste the complete output? |
| 15:02.50 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, it says that error message if it is already running on that config file. check if it's really not running already. the config option starts znc when it's done, i think |
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| 15:03.58 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: http://paste.debian.net/129389/ |
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| 15:04.50 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, and you are sure there is no znc process running at the moment? |
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| 15:05.38 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: positive |
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| 15:05.59 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, "ps -Af | egrep znc" please |
| 15:06.07 | blubberdiblub | or grep if you want |
| 15:06.22 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: only grep, as is expected |
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| 15:06.40 | blubberdiblub | well, i'm using egrep all the time. it's a habit |
| 15:07.15 | thewanderer1 | why does it seem to me that it's trying to use some pidfile and failing miserably? |
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| 15:08.16 | thewanderer1 | oh, it can't get a lock on the config file |
| 15:08.17 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, it does not use a pid file here |
| 15:08.29 | thewanderer1 | great, I have to debug locking now :P |
| 15:09.03 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, "lsof /your/config/file.conf" |
| 15:09.22 | blubberdiblub | if you have lsof installed |
| 15:09.35 | thewanderer1 | I don't really think that a stalled lock would cause flock() to return EIO... |
| 15:10.11 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, i still think some other program keeps the config file open |
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| 15:10.46 | thewanderer1 | this does not seem to be the case |
| 15:10.57 | thewanderer1 | as per lsof output |
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| 15:11.19 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, wrong permissions maybe? |
| 15:11.41 | Mneumonic | What Desktop Environment would you recommend for someone looking for a minimalist system but still with some features? |
| 15:11.50 | thewanderer1 | Mneumonic: LXDE |
| 15:12.02 | Mneumonic | I have been trying XFCE and like it, but I've looked at LXDE, E17, Openbox and others lately too |
| 15:12.09 | Mneumonic | How does LXDE compare to XFCE |
| 15:12.21 | thewanderer1 | Mneumonic: smaller and cleaner |
| 15:12.41 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: nah, I seem to have broken locking. crap. |
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| 15:13.11 | Mmike | Hola, lads. What would you recommend as an alternative to sshfs for home/local network? Samba? NFS? |
| 15:13.16 | Mmike | sshfs is just too slow |
| 15:13.23 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, how did you accomplish that? |
| 15:13.23 | thewanderer1 | Mmike: I use NFS, gets close to wire-speed |
| 15:13.41 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: I have no bloody idea! it works for .znc/configs, but not for the config file itself, lulz |
| 15:13.58 | Mneumonic | whats the benefit of LXDE over Openbox, i've heard a lot of good things about Openbox |
| 15:14.24 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, rm it and start over with a new config file? ;) |
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| 15:14.37 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: locks broken with other files too :D |
| 15:14.39 | thewanderer1 | oh fun |
| 15:14.46 | Mmike | thewanderer1, you have it always mounted, or? I ditched NFS earlier because my storage box is often off line, and I can do sshfs as user, and for nfs exports I can mount them only as root. |
| 15:15.05 | thewanderer1 | Mmike: yes, it's always mounted as the server is up 24/7 |
| 15:15.17 | Mmike | good, thnx |
| 15:15.18 | thewanderer1 | Mneumonic: openbox is not a desktop environment, LXDE is |
| 15:15.36 | Mneumonic | I'm fine with a window manager also |
| 15:15.43 | Mneumonic | I don't use panel plugins and stuff |
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| 15:15.59 | thewanderer1 | Mneumonic: go for fluxbox then :P |
| 15:16.08 | Mmike | fvwm ftw! :) |
| 15:16.13 | Mneumonic | whats the difference between flux and open |
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| 15:16.30 | thewanderer1 | Mneumonic: try them both and see! :) |
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| 15:18.57 | thewanderer1 | ok, looks like it's just my NFS server going crazy |
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| 15:19.11 | thewanderer1 | uninterruptible sleep can't be any good :P |
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| 15:23.47 | dweebboi | adfh |
| 15:24.34 | Mneumonic | Has anyone compared LXDE to E17 |
| 15:24.37 | Mmike | Is debian kernel intentionaly not allowing my AMD CPU not to use frequency scaling, or I messed something up? |
| 15:24.41 | Mneumonic | Enlightenment also looks like it might be super lightweight |
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| 15:24.46 | Mneumonic | and still offer some features |
| 15:24.55 | thewanderer1 | Mneumonic: good luck getting it to work on Debian :P |
| 15:25.16 | Mneumonic | Alright i'll stick with LXDE |
| 15:25.28 | Mneumonic | I was using XFCE for a while but it seems to be going the gnome/kde way |
| 15:25.30 | Mneumonic | and becoming heavy |
| 15:25.45 | Mneumonic | Which is fine, but I don't need all the extra stuff they put into them |
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| 15:26.29 | thewanderer1 | stay with Fluxbox then, it hasn't been changing for a decade or so :P |
| 15:26.43 | thewanderer1 | LXDE is pretty static too, if you want a DE |
| 15:27.07 | lrojas | what about dwm? |
| 15:27.37 | Mneumonic | what is that |
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| 15:28.13 | lrojas | a window manager |
| 15:28.15 | Mneumonic | wow dwm looks very oldschool |
| 15:28.27 | Mmike | I used enlightenment E16 ages ago, can't say it was lightweight, but I did like it then. |
| 15:28.32 | lrojas | is fast and light :p |
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| 15:28.53 | thewanderer1 | heh, I'm on awesome now (yes, it's a wm name) :P |
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| 15:29.50 | blubberdiblub | there's also i3 |
| 15:30.22 | somiaj | fvwm if you want one you can configure almost every aspect of. |
| 15:30.24 | Mneumonic | ive tried IceWM on a live cd once, how is that |
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| 15:30.48 | Mneumonic | I'm thinking of just sticking with LXDE, I am just looking for a bit more lightweight than XFCE4 |
| 15:31.00 | centHOGG | whatever floats your boat |
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| 15:31.43 | Dulak | is awesome a tiling wm? |
| 15:32.07 | lrojas | i think so |
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| 15:32.49 | lrojas | Mneumonic: there is also OpenBox, used to great effect in CrunchBang Linux |
| 15:33.03 | lrojas | 860724 |
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| 15:36.24 | WormFood | I'm looking for an accounting package...something to make invoices with, at the very least. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations of anything to get or avoid, based on experience? |
| 15:36.50 | centHOGG | did you try wiki? |
| 15:37.04 | centHOGG | they list comparable progs of all types |
| 15:37.25 | centHOGG | look up quickbooks and then trace a linux comparable |
| 15:37.38 | WormFood | never heard of an accounting package called "wiki" |
| 15:37.44 | Dulak | WormFood: gnucash is probably the best but can be a pain to get configured |
| 15:37.46 | centHOGG | no wikipedia |
| 15:38.01 | WormFood | wikipedia does not do accounting...thanks anyways centHOGG |
| 15:38.08 | centHOGG | nm |
| 15:38.24 | WormFood | thanks Dulak....I presume you use it? |
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| 15:38.47 | Dulak | WormFood: nope, I use a web service for my invoices |
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| 15:41.18 | boudiccas | WormFood; kmmymoney |
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| 15:42.11 | Mmike | How do I differentiate nfs3 from nfs4 expors. I created export in /etc/exports, and I can mount it using mount. But if I use mount.nfs4, I get 'mounting failed failed, reason given by server: no such file or directory) |
| 15:43.05 | WormFood | boudiccas, thanks for the suggestion. |
| 15:44.08 | boudiccas | WormFood; yw |
| 15:44.19 | WormFood | the wikipedia page on KMyMoney is kinda sparse |
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| 15:44.53 | WormFood | boudiccas, does it print invoices? |
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| 15:47.54 | blubberdiblub | Mmike, with nfs4, you have to specify the full path from the virtual root down to the leaf directory, maybe that's the problem? |
| 15:48.15 | g00se | Never had a kernel oops before. Wondering if this is serious- happening for other processes, e.g. chromium-browse too: http://pastebin.com/HVNR6jgT |
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| 15:49.25 | thewanderer1 | guys, I'm having a major headache with NFS4 locking |
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| 15:49.36 | thewanderer1 | every attempt to execute flock() returns an I/O error |
| 15:49.40 | Mmike | Hm. This works: "mount -t nfs enchilada:/storage /mnt/nfs/enchilada-storage/", but this gives a 'no such file or directory' error: ""mount -t nfs4 enchilada:/storage /mnt/nfs/enchilada-storage/ |
| 15:49.42 | thewanderer1 | well, with files at least. |
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| 15:51.35 | blubberdiblub | Mmike, have you set up a virtual root with fsid=0 in your exports file? |
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| 15:52.12 | Mmike | blubberdiblub, erm, nope? I only have this: /storage buntor(rw,...) |
| 15:52.26 | Mmike | my /dev/md0 is mounted on /storage on my nfs-server |
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| 15:53.01 | blubberdiblub | Mmike, nfsv4 needs a virtual root |
| 15:53.19 | Mmike | blubberdiblub, aha. Ok, thnx, will investigate. |
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| 15:54.01 | thewanderer1 | daaaaamn znc locking bug |
| 15:54.23 | Pavel | Hello. I am trying to net-install Debian on a laptop, with a complication: the only mode I have for Internet access is a WPA-secured WiFi network, and it looks like Debian installer only does WEP. What can I do? |
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| 15:55.30 | blubberdiblub | thewanderer1, well, it works fine here. maybe use a different bouncer if it doesn't work correctly for you? |
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| 15:56.04 | thewanderer1 | blubberdiblub: I've just discovered a deeply-rooted misunderstanding in many programs... people don't know how to use locking :( |
| 15:56.09 | thewanderer1 | now I have to report bugs in all that |
| 15:56.21 | Mmike | blubberdiblub, thnx, works now: enchilada:/ on /mnt/nfs/enchilada-storage type nfs4 (rw,addr=192.168.10.2,clientaddr=192.168.10.1) |
| 15:56.24 | Mmike | yey :) |
| 15:56.34 | thewanderer1 | who the hell thinks that read-only fopen and then LOCK_EX is just fine?! |
| 15:57.27 | Mmike | php? :) |
| 15:58.38 | thewanderer1 | no, same bug in flock and znc |
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| 15:58.54 | thewanderer1 | I mean flock(1), not the system call fortunately... |
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| 15:59.32 | thewanderer1 | well anyway, off to the bugzilla |
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| 16:03.46 | alazare619 | im looking for a gtk frontend to p7zip/full any ideas? |
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| 16:06.25 | mac7 | Try to install libreoffice but get errors.... broken packages...can someone help? |
| 16:06.45 | thewanderer1 | alazare619: doesn't File Roller support that? |
| 16:06.54 | somiaj | mac7: provide the errors, what version of debian? |
| 16:06.54 | alazare619 | no idea |
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| 16:06.56 | Pavel | Problem solved by finding an unsecured network and stealing WiFi. :( |
| 16:07.12 | thewanderer1 | mac7: you're installing from b.d.o, not from the upstream, aren't you? |
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| 16:07.30 | mac7 | installing with apt-get |
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| 16:07.43 | alazare619 | thewanderer1: if file roller supports p7zip as a gui ill just install that im building a deb distro didnt know if it had a gui im trying to do every app having a cli and a gui so that you can use it in a non booting enviorment |
| 16:07.44 | somiaj | I didn't think libreoffice was in squeeze yet, so if in testing or unstable check the bts |
| 16:07.52 | mac7 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 16:07.54 | mac7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.56 | mac7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.58 | mac7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.59 | mac7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.01 | mac7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.03 | mac7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.04 | mac7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.06 | mac7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.07 | mac7 | E: Broken packages |
| 16:08.07 | somiaj | mac7: that doesn't mean you are using offical debian sources though and don't paste here |
| 16:08.09 | wols_ | mac7: stop it! |
| 16:08.20 | mac7 | oh sorry |
| 16:08.29 | somiaj | are you running testing? |
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| 16:09.09 | jelly-home | ,versions libreoffice-gtk |
| 16:09.11 | judd | Package libreoffice-gtk on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.3.2-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:3.3.3-4+b1; sid: 1:3.4.3-1 |
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| 16:10.08 | alazare619 | mac7 do sudo apt-get install -t squeeze-backports libreoffice |
| 16:10.19 | alazare619 | in terminal and youll be good to go |
| 16:10.22 | jelly-home | installinog from sid repos on a lower release, then |
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| 16:10.50 | jelly-home | not the greatest idea for the unwary |
| 16:11.08 | fbs | is there a way to monitor which packages are installed on a debian install? |
| 16:11.09 | somiaj | yea he is asking for a sid package, not sure if he is running sid, or has stable/testing all mixed together |
| 16:11.10 | mac7 | thanks alazar619... but no go... The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 16:11.12 | mac7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:11.34 | somiaj | mac7: provide us with your sources.list -- also runnign testing/sid these dependency problemsd aren't uncommon, you just have to manually trace them out and fix them |
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| 16:12.39 | jelly-home | mac7: again. Which Debian release are you using. |
| 16:13.13 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell mac7 -about bat |
| 16:13.21 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell mac7 -about paste |
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| 16:13.42 | mac7 | jelly-home: a knoppix version of debian |
| 16:14.14 | jelly-home | mac7: we can't support derivatives in here, sorry. They change too much stuff. |
| 16:14.18 | jelly-home | !knoppix |
| 16:14.18 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems. |
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| 16:16.17 | mac7 | Thanks for the info, I did not knew that |
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| 16:18.08 | thewanderer1 | ok, looking for suggestions on IRC bouncers that support IPv6 (!dircproxy) and proper locking (!znc) |
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| 16:19.08 | alazare619 | anyone here wana test a distro ive been making i can throw up a torrent if you wana test it, its based on deb stable standard task all hand picked packages all gtk tho with almost every app having a cli version so you can do it from the terminal even irc if something bad happend |
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| 16:21.45 | timi0tree | waht package do i have to install to mount -o loop? |
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| 16:22.47 | timi0tree | or do i have to load a kernel module? |
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| 16:23.35 | somiaj | timi0tree: what error do you get when you try to mount -o loop -- yes you will need the module for both the loopback file system and the actual file system you are trying to mount |
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| 16:24.09 | timi0tree | somiaj: mount: could not find any free loop device |
| 16:24.16 | timi0tree | trying to mount a squashfs |
| 16:24.45 | timi0tree | and I have no clue what to do |
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| 16:26.15 | somiaj | timi0tree: ls /dev/loop* do you have any loop devices? |
| 16:26.37 | timi0tree | loop0 |
| 16:26.48 | timi0tree | so I have to install squashfs-modules? |
| 16:27.00 | timi0tree | and squashfs-tools? |
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| 16:27.17 | somiaj | that is the only loop device you have? Sounds like you'll have to tell udev to make more loop devices, also 'lsmod | grep loop' |
| 16:27.47 | somiaj | yes you will have to have squashfs module to mount the filesystem as well -- the tools will probabaly be handy (not I don't know anything about squashfs other than its an fs) |
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| 16:28.02 | timi0tree | how do i get the squashfs-modules? |
| 16:28.09 | timi0tree | i cannot find it via apt-cache search |
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| 16:29.10 | somiaj | try to ask google 'squashfs debian' |
| 16:29.39 | timi0tree | thing is i am running a rescue system for my vps with debain on it |
| 16:30.03 | timi0tree | trying to mount anothe rlinux from squashfs boot image to chroot into it |
| 16:31.18 | timi0tree | lsmod | grep loop shows nothing |
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| 16:39.07 | everythingWorks | Ive just installed debian (: (yay!) |
| 16:39.28 | everythingWorks | The problem is, i want to uninstall all that crap like "solitaire" "audio cd extractor" "brasero" ... |
| 16:39.44 | everythingWorks | Im sure i dont need it |
| 16:39.55 | everythingWorks | whats the recommended way to do that? |
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| 16:40.28 | WormFood | ugh! what was the command to test the different apt mirrors for the best speed? If I remember correctly, there are 2 of them, and I can't remember what they're named :( |
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| 16:41.03 | WormFood | everythingWorks, aptitude remove <package> or apt-get remove <package> |
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| 16:43.18 | wols_ | WormFood: there is (or was?) netselect-apt. or you could use ftp.cdn.debian.org |
| 16:43.29 | everythingWorks | wormfood: i dont know the package names. |
| 16:43.41 | everythingWorks | I didnt load all these useless applications and installed them ;) |
| 16:43.46 | WormFood | everythingWorks, man dpkg |
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| 16:44.06 | WormFood | everythingWorks, find the executable, or some file, then use the dpkg option to figure out what package owns that file. |
| 16:44.16 | WormFood | you can also use aptitude search |
| 16:44.22 | everythingWorks | thats a lot of work i see.. |
| 16:44.34 | babilen | everythingWorks: There are a couple of things to note here, but I assume that you just installed the "Desktop" task during the initial installation or how did you install Gnome? |
| 16:44.36 | everythingWorks | isnt there a easy way to uninstall all the not needed packages |
| 16:44.51 | WormFood | yes...since you are new to debian, it would be advantageous for you to learn how the package manager works....it is an investment of time that is well worth it. |
| 16:44.53 | everythingWorks | babilen: its a time ago, i assume desktop, yes |
| 16:45.09 | everythingWorks | actuallly im using the "software centre" |
| 16:45.09 | thewanderer1 | how to tell debian/rules to run 4 jobs in parallel? |
| 16:45.15 | babilen | everythingWorks: As *you* installed the packages it is very hard to know which packages *you* consider to be unneeded. :) |
| 16:45.38 | everythingWorks | babilen: so a reinstallation would be the best, you suggest? :) |
| 16:45.43 | everythingWorks | -> Just marking the ones i want |
| 16:45.51 | WormFood | babilen, that is easy for me to know...but my damn mind-reading helmet is in the shop ;) |
| 16:45.59 | babilen | everythingWorks: No, not at all. Are you comfortable on the command line? |
| 16:46.10 | everythingWorks | A little bit :) |
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| 16:47.20 | babilen | everythingWorks: Ok, you will face a bit of a problem when you remove these packages as essentially *all* of gnome will be removed once you removed one of the packages that were installed as the "gnome" set (in fact as dependencies of the gnome metapackage) |
| 16:47.45 | WormFood | does ftp.hk.debian.org work for anyone? it seems their server is rejecting my connections...not sure if it is me or something else. (other mirrors work ok, so I'm suspecting the server is having problems or being worked on) |
| 16:47.55 | everythingWorks | babilen: yep, i've heard something like that |
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| 16:48.38 | everythingWorks | The debian system should be a "working pc". |
| 16:48.44 | WormFood | gnome does not depend on solitare....it is the other way around |
| 16:48.45 | babilen | everythingWorks: I would therefore recommend to install one of the smaller metapackages like gnome-session or gnome-desktop-environment and mark all other packages you want to keep as manually installed. That can be done with "apt-get install PKG" or "aptitude unmarkauto PKG" and there is probably a way in the software centre too. |
| 16:48.48 | everythingWorks | Nothin installed not needed |
| 16:49.18 | babilen | !tell everythingWorks -about install gnome |
| 16:49.25 | babilen | !tell everythingWorks -about remove rhythmbox |
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| 16:52.09 | babilen | everythingWorks: The second factoid dpkg just told you about follows a different strategy in that all packages that belong to the gnome metapackage are marked as manually installed (and will therefore not be removed automatically) which would be the route to follow if you want to keep most of Gnome. I would personally just start with "gnome-session" or "gnome-core" and by installing/unmarkauto the rest of the packages you want to keep. In ... |
| 16:52.15 | babilen | ... particular you want to remove gnome-games, brasero and some other packages to meet your needs. |
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| 16:52.52 | everythingWorks | I think everything i need is already marked as "manually installed" (I loaded them via apt-get install) |
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| 16:53.02 | babilen | everythingWorks: I recently raised this topic on debian-devel, but the situation is unlikely to change soon. I consider this to be badly implemented in Debian. |
| 16:53.29 | everythingWorks | Im unsure to take gnome-core / session or -environment |
| 16:53.59 | babilen | everythingWorks: Then just remove the packages you do not want. Tools/commands like apt-file, apt-cache search, aptitude search and debtags might help you to figure out what you want to remove. |
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| 16:54.49 | everythingWorks | Okay, now im confused. I want to remove everything but not the packages i installed myself |
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| 16:56.03 | becker_11 | Guys I've just been talking to my new roommate & he tells me I should do my CCNA what does everyone think? |
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| 16:56.38 | babilen | everythingWorks: That should already be the case. If not, run "apt-get autoremove" to make sure. To know why, for example, gnome-games is installed run "aptitude why gnome-games" -- Please paste the output of those commands and "dpkg -l gnome|tail -n 1" to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 16:57.29 | babilen | becker_11: I think that this is by no means a Debian related question and should therefore be asked somewhere else. A good channel is #debian-offtopic :) |
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| 17:00.58 | _guru_ | hello, i'm wondering about how to delete games on squeeze such as FreeCell or Chess, without getting a problem deleting gnome too as well as a result! |
| 17:01.14 | _guru_ | any idea? |
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| 17:01.38 | _guru_ | i even tried with Synaptic, but i tells that gnome have to be removed according to that! |
| 17:01.38 | nsadmin | !any ideas |
| 17:01.38 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of ground beef, a little thermal paste, and a handful of sex-crazed goats. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 17:01.45 | everythingWorks | Ok. "apt-get autoremove" did some work :). http://paste.debian.net/129407/ |
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| 17:02.20 | _guru_ | everythingWorks, :/ |
| 17:02.26 | _guru_ | how come! |
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| 17:02.39 | babilen | _guru_: Can you travel back in time (say 10 minutes) and read what I've written back then? Otherwise: Give me a minute as I'll just take a break. One of the kinder souls might paste it somewhere. |
| 17:02.45 | everythingWorks | _guru_ yes? :D |
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| 17:04.12 | babilen | everythingWorks: See, the "gnome" metapackage is installed. You have to remove that, but that will cause all its dependencies (essentially all of gnome) to be removed as well. Follow my earlier advice to get around that. |
| 17:04.13 | _guru_ | babilen, i just jumped in man, did't saw your golden wrote here |
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| 17:04.59 | _guru_ | everythingWorks, it gaves the same results :) |
| 17:05.00 | babilen | _guru_: I know -- I was just thinking "Argh, I've just explained all that to everythingWorks and don't want to write it again" -- I'll be back in a second. /me still suggests gtime travel though. |
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| 17:05.33 | everythingWorks | _guru_ same problem, heh? :> |
| 17:05.42 | _guru_ | yeah |
| 17:05.59 | _guru_ | i just got the same results everythingWorks |
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| 17:06.24 | _guru_ | everythingWorks, i can't even delete the other games such as nipples, tali....etc |
| 17:06.37 | everythingWorks | yeah.. neither me ;) |
| 17:06.39 | babilen | _guru_: i'll be back in a second. You might want to explain what you are trying to achieve and everythingWorks might help a little as well |
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| 17:06.53 | _guru_ | everythingWorks, don't know why the like to pull gnome with them :) |
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| 17:07.18 | _guru_ | babilen, tyt man, i appreciate your efforts |
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| 17:07.35 | _guru_ | babilen, my question is clear as sun :) |
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| 17:08.02 | _guru_ | wanted to delete a games without losing gnome-desktop-environment |
| 17:08.13 | _guru_ | as simple as this! |
| 17:08.55 | _guru_ | everythingWorks, using squeeze too as well? |
| 17:09.12 | LocoenelCoco | hello, how do i set the volume louder than 100 on debian squeeze?i was able to do it on ubuntu on the sound preferences menu option at the speaker applet |
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| 17:09.52 | wols_ | LocoenelCoco: this one goes to eleven? have you thought, just for a second, what you are asking? |
| 17:10.13 | _guru_ | i guess i did remove them while i was using lenny before, but after about 6 months of internet abruption, found it tough so :) |
| 17:10.15 | LocoenelCoco | of course i know what im asking im not idiot wols |
| 17:10.17 | LocoenelCoco | of course i know what im asking im not idiot wols_ |
| 17:10.30 | everythingWorks | guru: yep, 6.0 |
| 17:10.34 | wols_ | I rest my case |
| 17:10.36 | idank | I've recently been getting these kernel failures when using Chrome: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/474158/ |
| 17:10.45 | idank | anyone know what's going on there? |
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| 17:10.54 | LocoenelCoco | anyone knows how to bypass the volume limit on debian squeeze? |
| 17:11.12 | LocoenelCoco | bypass the alsamixer limit i mean |
| 17:11.34 | _guru_ | everythingWorks, it's just a masterpiece, just that games issue :) |
| 17:11.42 | thewanderer1 | LocoenelCoco: run PulseAudio like on Ubuntu and boost the sound from there? |
| 17:11.57 | jelly-home | idank: you're triggering some sort of a kernel bug. Pastebin the last 500ish lines of /var/log/kern.log |
| 17:11.58 | LocoenelCoco | thewanderer1, letme try that |
| 17:12.18 | everythingWorks | guru_ i need to uninstall everything but the programs ive installed myself (just 2 or 3 ) |
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| 17:12.27 | babilen | _guru_: http://paste.debian.net/129411/ -- You can ask our bot about "install gnome" and "remove rhythmbox" by executing "/msg dpkg install gnome" in your IRC client. You might also want to read http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/08/msg00693.html |
| 17:12.47 | babilen | _guru_: Cya later |
| 17:13.04 | _guru_ | thanks babilen, later! |
| 17:13.04 | everythingWorks | babilen still here? ;D |
| 17:13.14 | _guru_ | everythingWorks, follow the same link man :P |
| 17:13.28 | everythingWorks | ive read all that but im still not sure what to do exactly |
| 17:13.36 | everythingWorks | Installing a less big metapackage i think |
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| 17:14.16 | LocoenelCoco | how to use pulseaudio instead of alsa on debian squeeze? |
| 17:15.02 | babilen | everythingWorks: Indeed, start with "aptitude install gnome-session" or "aptitude install gnome-core" and take it from there. It will list all the packages that will be removed. If you are unhappy with that list run "aptitude unmarkauto PKG" for all packages that you want to keep. Just make sure that one of the smaller metapackages stays installed. |
| 17:15.04 | thewanderer1 | LocoenelCoco: install pulseaudio package |
| 17:15.19 | idank | jelly-home: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/474161/ |
| 17:15.26 | LocoenelCoco | thewanderer1, kk |
| 17:15.36 | everythingWorks | understood. |
| 17:16.17 | everythingWorks | what does session have what core doesnt? |
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| 17:18.11 | LocoenelCoco | thewanderer1, k package installed now how to use it? |
| 17:18.31 | jelly-home | idank: so your first bug happens at line 397. You found a bug in debian kernel, congrats! |
| 17:18.46 | idank | yay! what do I get? :) |
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| 17:19.03 | jelly-home | warm fuzzy feeling if you report it! |
| 17:19.09 | windparadise | hello, pls how do I fix this issue? |
| 17:19.22 | windparadise | I am calling http://208.93.155.217/info.php and it is prompting to download the php file, |
| 17:19.27 | windparadise | what do I do to solve this issue? |
| 17:19.34 | idank | heh, well the other day a popup appeared asking me if I'd like to send it to kerneloops |
| 17:19.55 | idank | could be a different bug as it wasn't chrome that crashed |
| 17:20.48 | jelly-home | if you have different apps triggering it, might be a driver or a hardware issue |
| 17:21.06 | LocoenelCoco | how to boost the sound volume in debian squeeze? |
| 17:21.19 | idank | haven't changed hardware |
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| 17:21.24 | idank | I did apt-get update the other day |
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| 17:21.35 | idank | maybe that's when it started |
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| 17:22.03 | LocoenelCoco | how to boost the sound volume to more than 100 in debian squeeze? |
| 17:22.11 | idank | where do I report a bug and are there any other logs I should attach? |
| 17:22.36 | windparadise | any answer please ? |
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| 17:22.46 | windparadise | I have LAMP installed anyway |
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| 17:24.37 | thewanderer1 | LocoenelCoco: boost your speakers instead of asking the same question after getting an answer :/ |
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| 17:24.41 | peterrooney | LocoenelCoco: 100% is as loud as it gets. |
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| 17:25.36 | LocoenelCoco | thewanderer1, its for my laptop |
| 17:25.41 | dweebboi | I am trying to get my wireless working I have pasted dmesg|tail -20 here http://pastebin.com/aQivWRhr It worked the 3 times I did it before and now something is awry. |
| 17:25.51 | thewanderer1 | LocoenelCoco: get headphones, then |
| 17:25.52 | LocoenelCoco | peterrooney, yeah its posible on ubuntu 10 |
| 17:27.30 | dweebboi | I installed the firmware and wireless tools and modprobed it to work...... |
| 17:28.29 | dweebboi | it could be the wrong key in wpasupplicat or /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:28.36 | dweebboi | hmmmjm |
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| 17:29.50 | dweebboi | nm |
| 17:29.57 | dweebboi | I figured it out |
| 17:30.08 | LocoenelCoco | its possible to notice can go higher than the 100% when using vlc, the sound on it goes to 200%, id like to boost the sound volume of all gnome |
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| 17:33.26 | echo083 | LocoenelCoco, when vlc reaches 200% it is not 100% of the possibility of the system ? don't they use a half reference ? |
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| 17:34.04 | LocoenelCoco | echo083, no it sounds real louder than other applications playing the same file |
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| 17:34.52 | DelphiWorld | Hello ! |
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| 17:34.56 | DelphiWorld | hi zumbi |
| 17:34.59 | echo083 | LocoenelCoco, anything in the gconf-editor ? |
| 17:35.29 | echo083 | LocoenelCoco, found it right click on the sound icon and click preferences |
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| 17:36.06 | blubberdiblub | there's nothing stopping vlc from multiplying the samples by 1.5, or 2 (and clipping them, if they exceed the maximum values). that would be useful if the original file doesn't have a maximum amplitude. apart from that, you can filter sounds in a way to increase the sound pressure |
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| 17:36.11 | LocoenelCoco | echo083, alreay tried that but here it doesnt goes over 100, on ubuntu 10 it did |
| 17:36.38 | echo083 | LocoenelCoco, then i have no idea :( sorry |
| 17:36.52 | DelphiWorld | anyone did Multicast DVB channels ? |
| 17:36.52 | LocoenelCoco | np |
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| 17:48.41 | boudiccas | since todays kernel update on squeeze i'm being prompted every hour to reboot, but i dont want to reboot yet so how can i kill this irritating nagging reminder please? |
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| 17:49.32 | Kre10s | hello. I just installed nginx... any reason why the version is 0.6.32? isn't that kinda old? |
| 17:49.56 | peterrooney | ,versions nginx |
| 17:49.59 | judd | Package nginx on i386 -- lenny: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-backports: 0.7.67-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.7.67-3; squeeze-backports: 1.1.0-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.1.0-1; sid: 1.1.2-1 |
| 17:50.39 | Kre10s | D: so why does apt-get install nginx install old version? |
| 17:50.51 | thewanderer1 | boudiccas: hunt down all processes which sound like "notifier", I guess? |
| 17:50.57 | jelly-home | Kre10s: are you using Debian 5, lenny? |
| 17:51.06 | Kre10s | yes... |
| 17:51.10 | jelly-home | Kre10s: that's why. |
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| 17:51.43 | Kre10s | :/ hows I do a quit easy simple upgrade of ze everything? |
| 17:52.12 | boudiccas | Kre10s; sorry? |
| 17:52.19 | windparadise | hi, pls I have installed LAMP on my debian VPS box, after creating and running info.php prompt me to download the php file, waht do I do? |
| 17:52.23 | jelly-home | Kre10s: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 17:52.52 | jelly-home | Kre10s: it's not really quite easy and simple, but it's not too complex either. |
| 17:53.25 | boudiccas | thewanderer1; thanks, i've checked in 'top' and cant see any processes with 'notifier'. i guess i'll look at 1927 when it fires up again |
| 17:53.43 | jelly-home | windparadise: did you enable the apache php5 module, if that's what you're using? |
| 17:54.22 | Kre10s | Where can I find some documentation explaining how to upgrade? |
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| 17:54.38 | windparadise | yes, I have installed php5 and apache is already running, where do I enable it? |
| 17:55.01 | boudiccas | Kre10s: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze. |
| 17:55.11 | jelly-home | windparadise: zless /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/README.Debian.gz <-- read that. Use a2enmod. |
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| 17:55.44 | jelly-home | Kre10s: that is the irc command to type in and receive more details (from the "dpkg" irc bot) |
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| 17:56.02 | Kre10s | got it\ |
| 17:56.25 | windparadise | ok |
| 17:56.29 | LocoenelCoco | anyone recommends installing OSS and using it instead of ALSA? does it sounds better? what about pulseaudio? |
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| 18:00.42 | windparadise | jelly-home: which one is a2enmod? how do I use it? |
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| 18:07.08 | sec-info | Salut |
| 18:07.09 | sec-info | un ami ma donner une script qui genere des codes allo-passe. |
| 18:07.12 | sec-info | comment je peut tester cette script sur un site. |
| 18:08.47 | windparadise | sec-info: il s'agit de quelle script ca? |
| 18:09.22 | sec-info | une script .py |
| 18:09.22 | windparadise | sec-info: et le script est dans quelle language programme? |
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| 18:09.59 | sec-info | windparadise : donner moi un site allo-passe pour le test |
| 18:10.07 | windparadise | hmm, dans ce cas il faut soit installer python a ton serveur et le lancer, ou si to connais qq1 qui l'as deja, ca tomberas bien |
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| 18:10.33 | windparadise | ah, vous voulez un site basee sur allo-passe ? |
| 18:10.40 | sec-info | oui |
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| 18:10.54 | jelly-home | !fr |
| 18:10.55 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
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| 18:11.15 | sec-info | windparadise: donner moi le numero et moi je te donne le code et tester le toi meme svp |
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| 18:11.39 | jelly-home | windparadise: just a2enmod modulenamehere (php5 in your case I think) and restart apache |
| 18:12.18 | sec-info | windparadis : give me the number and I'll give you the code |
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| 18:14.54 | windparadise | hi |
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| 18:16.11 | sec-info | hi |
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| 18:16.56 | windparadise | ok, j'avais accidentellement hiberne mon pc |
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| 18:17.07 | lrojas | what driver should i choose when installing debian if my ethernet card is Intel(R) 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection |
| 18:17.12 | windparadise | je suis pas tres familier avec le system allow passe |
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| 18:18.05 | sec-info | il ma dis que je peus faire l'argent avec. |
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| 18:18.36 | pandog | I am running lenny, I want to install 'libv4l-0' but as I understand it it is only in backports (http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/libv4l-0) , I believe I have added backports to my sources.list and I'm running 'apt-get -t lenny-backports install libv4l-0' but still get a couldn't find package error |
| 18:19.03 | sec-info | et il ma dis que je peut telephoner avec cette script |
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| 18:19.17 | windparadise | sec-info: es tu 1 detaillant ou tu veux tester le system et apres l'utiliser pour faire des achats? |
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| 18:20.56 | pandog | a-hah. i had the backports.org one, not the debian.org one |
| 18:21.00 | pandog | thanks chaps ;) |
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| 18:24.00 | ben_ | Hey all, my friend and I are going to put together a computer to put Debian on. Do y'all know of major hardware incompatibilities? |
| 18:24.14 | ben_ | Like does Intel work better than AMD? |
| 18:24.40 | ben_ | Which video cards have people had better luck with? |
| 18:25.47 | jelly-home | nvidia if you don't care about their closed-sourceness |
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| 18:26.03 | ben_ | jelly-home: which did YOU use? |
| 18:26.22 | ben_ | I do care about that stuff, that's why I want to use Debian, because it stands for soemthing. |
| 18:26.56 | jelly-home | ben_: I use nvidia. |
| 18:27.14 | windparadise | jelly-home: how do I find available apache modules so I can choose which one to enable ? |
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| 18:27.44 | ben_ | Any suggestions for Motherboard Manufacturer? And chipset Intel versus AMD? |
| 18:27.51 | jelly-home | windparadise: try running that command without any parameters. Read its manual. |
| 18:28.09 | windparadise | ok |
| 18:28.12 | jelly-home | ben_: rule of thumb, anything older than 12 months |
| 18:28.41 | jelly-home | that's about how much it takes for Linux to gain passable support |
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| 18:28.54 | ben_ | jelly-home: Honestly been out of the loop for computer hardware for a bit. Don't even know wher eto start. |
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| 18:29.31 | ben_ | jelly-home: still using an old Mac Mini from 2005 so don't know PC hardware so well. |
| 18:29.47 | ben_ | But VERY interested in getting to use Debian. |
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| 18:30.25 | jelly-home | ben_: oh, I use a 2005 thinkpad until this year. I just went to a shop that had their own configurations, picked their second cheapest config and added more RAM and my own disks and graphic card |
| 18:30.33 | phrantiq | ben_: what for? |
| 18:31.05 | jelly-home | s/use/appropriate past tense of 'to use'/ |
| 18:31.40 | thewanderer1 | used to use :P |
| 18:31.53 | ben_ | phrantiq: I work at a library all day so I dont' need it for work / heavy duty. I just would use it mostly for internet, basic stuff. thinking of using XFCE, mozilla firefox, audacious, jitsi, schismtracker... |
| 18:32.00 | jelly-home | was thinking " 'd used " |
| 18:32.24 | thewanderer1 | 'd been using :P |
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| 18:32.26 | ben_ | phrantiq: but would love for it to last a while before having to upgrade it. want something fast and simple. don't care about games. |
| 18:32.28 | DelphiWorld | Hey back |
| 18:32.38 | phrantiq | ben_: very nice |
| 18:32.41 | DelphiWorld | please would someone help me configure my wireless as a adhoc network ? |
| 18:32.42 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: yeah! |
| 18:32.45 | DelphiWorld | dpkg: adhoc |
| 18:32.45 | dpkg | Procedures for establishing a <WiFi> Ad-hoc network on Debian systems can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc |
| 18:33.01 | ben_ | jelly-home: id use an old computer but i like the idea of having something that will last a while. |
| 18:33.13 | ben_ | jelly-home: or does that seem silly? |
| 18:33.24 | thewanderer1 | ben_: I've had very good luck with GIGABYTE/AMD |
| 18:33.49 | peterrooney | ben_: there's #debianppc |
| 18:33.49 | jelly-home | ben_: not old computer, just previous generation hardware |
| 18:33.53 | thewanderer1 | but I have to say that my recent GIGABYTE/Intel set is doing good too |
| 18:34.04 | thewanderer1 | ben_: what budget? |
| 18:34.10 | ben_ | phrantiq: so any suggestions for that? |
| 18:34.20 | peterrooney | ben_: some wag once said, linux on powerpc is a continuous IQ test. |
| 18:34.27 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: may i ask you ? |
| 18:34.42 | thewanderer1 | DelphiWorld: I have no idea about ad-hoc networks |
| 18:34.54 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: evean infrastructure mode |
| 18:34.59 | ben_ | thewanderer1: under 1000 US dollars |
| 18:35.04 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: iwlist scan wlan0 give me: wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down |
| 18:35.08 | jelly-home | peterrooney: my tape libraries at work run ppc linux inside, and Brocade FC switches seem to do that as well |
| 18:35.13 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: so how do i scan for wireless ? |
| 18:35.21 | ben_ | peterrooney: yeah, thats why im setting up a new computer. don't want to try it on my old mac mini. :p |
| 18:35.25 | thewanderer1 | DelphiWorld: ip link set up dev wlan0; # try scanning now |
| 18:35.51 | phrantiq | ben_: i'm only familiar with pc's but would like to try mac |
| 18:35.53 | ben_ | jelly-home: OK. That's what people have been saying, not the newest stuff. |
| 18:36.09 | DelphiWorld | lol lol laugh a bit thewanderer1 ! -bash: thewanderer1:: command not found :P |
| 18:36.14 | thewanderer1 | ben_: Core i3 with a GIGABYTE mobo, give it 4GB of RAM and a NVIDIA graphics card (Intel is good too if you have it embedded - I did not) and you're good to go |
| 18:36.22 | ben_ | phrantiq: well a pc would be cheapter to build for what i want. not gonna use the mac os so why bother paying more? |
| 18:36.32 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: you stole my config! |
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| 18:36.52 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: sorry, I did that back in 2010 :P |
| 18:37.07 | phrantiq | ben_: only for educational purposes |
| 18:37.14 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: still failing :( |
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| 18:37.26 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: since there has been a sandybridge update in the meantime, does that mean sandybridge is now gen N-0.5 and thus eligible? |
| 18:37.29 | ben_ | phrantiq: oh some day I'd like to do that too! but when I have more experience. :p |
| 18:37.43 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: mine is still Nehalem. works reasonably fast. |
| 18:38.01 | phrantiq | ben_: are you into programming? |
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| 18:38.44 | ksx4system | where exactly can I find logs for boot? i get trillions of errors related to 51-hso-udev.rules file on boot |
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| 18:38.53 | lrojas | what does a blocking fix mean in bug report logs? |
| 18:39.19 | ben_ | phrantiq: i honestly don't know much about programming at all. all i know is html. i'm mostly interested because i love the ideology and community of gnu/linux in general and debian in particular. |
| 18:39.27 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: how do i bring it down aguin ? |
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| 18:39.54 | phrantiq | ksx4system: try dmesg |
| 18:39.58 | ben_ | phrantiq: and i don't like the cultural / political / ethical / social way comptuers are going. id like to build something that stands as an example of something we cna do to creat an alternative |
| 18:40.55 | thewanderer1 | DelphiWorld: ip link set down dev wlan0 |
| 18:41.06 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: Thank you. |
| 18:41.08 | ben_ | thewanderer1: so ANY nvidia that's 12 months old? and will the computer builder know what core i2 with gigabyte mobo means? because i'm so lame, i dont. |
| 18:41.25 | ben_ | thewanderer1: i mean i3 |
| 18:41.26 | phrantiq | ben_: this issues are much more sophisticated |
| 18:41.43 | ben_ | phrantiq: which ones? |
| 18:42.07 | ksx4system | pharantiq: thanks, fixed :) |
| 18:42.11 | ben_ | hey all, i gotta go but i'll be back on later, a friend just came by to visit unnannounced. :p |
| 18:42.27 | ben_ | thank youy so much for your help!! <3 I'll prob be back on later |
| 18:42.32 | phrantiq | ben_: the ones you mentioned |
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| 18:43.36 | phrantiq | ksx4system: no prob |
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| 18:44.37 | nitzs | Can anyone recommend any tool that may find as much information about the host system as possible? |
| 18:46.09 | nitzs | anyone? |
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| 18:46.44 | jelly-home | nitzs: for hardware information, lshw |
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| 18:47.41 | nitzs | jelly-home: okay |
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| 18:49.35 | project2501a | I HACK THE GIBSONZ, d00d |
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| 18:50.05 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: Blam Ralink. |
| 18:50.08 | DelphiWorld | love atheros |
| 18:50.51 | thewanderer1 | project2501a: ECHAN? :P |
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| 18:51.45 | project2501a | thewanderer1: did you search the trash can? |
| 18:52.06 | thewanderer1 | project2501a: no, I actually went and bought the rig |
| 18:52.39 | project2501a | do you know the little red book that won't fit on a shelf? |
| 18:53.32 | Aenigma | Hi, I'm having difficulty trying to use read-only bind mounts. I have a partition mounted and want two specific directories in that partition bind mounted to two different locations. Currently I bind mount it and then I remount the bind mounts to be read-only as I've read this works. However, when I do this, my partition also becomes read-only. Any advice? |
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| 18:54.56 | jelly-home | Aenigma: hm. Can you investigate which kernel version started supporting ro bind mounts and do you have that version or later? |
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| 18:56.09 | luichi | hello |
| 18:56.19 | Aenigma | jelly-home: okay. I've 2.6.32 and this bit suggests that it was added in 2.6.26 |
| 18:56.29 | Aenigma | http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_26#head-84b0b94f54cc4be3dd955b16a41cab633d11645b |
| 18:56.37 | luichi | hibernate uses swap and suspend no. Is that correct? |
| 18:56.47 | Aenigma | luichi: correct |
| 18:57.00 | luichi | Aenigma, ok perfect, thanks |
| 18:57.31 | jelly-home | luichi: hibernate can be made to use a file as well, I think, but using a preexistent swap partition is more common |
| 18:57.42 | luichi | yes i read it |
| 18:58.05 | luichi | but if you look here http://wiki.debian.org/Swap it says: Swap space is also fundamental to the processes of the "Suspend" and "Hibernate" features of Linux. |
| 18:58.21 | luichi | why it says is fundamental to suspend? |
| 18:59.14 | project2501a | might mean that if you leave the laptop suspended and it reaches down to 4% battery life, it writes to disk |
| 18:59.20 | project2501a | then shuts down |
| 18:59.47 | Aenigma | project2501a: that's what i was thinking |
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| 19:00.07 | luichi | Aenigma, aha, it's possible |
| 19:00.13 | jelly-home | luichi: it's a Wiki! It might be incorrect or outdated. |
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| 19:01.42 | luichi | jelly-home, ok but to have some idea |
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| 19:04.30 | jelly-home | you got the general idea right, suspend-to-ram should not require swap |
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| 19:11.28 | Aenigma | okay, so if bind mount a directory once, it's okay. but if I bind mount it twice, it's not |
| 19:11.31 | Aenigma | is that a bug? |
| 19:11.43 | tuv | does the current testing installer support wpa? |
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| 19:14.40 | mirko | hey, just downloaded the latest wheezy businesscard iso and configured an LVM on top of a crypto volume containing home, root and swap |
| 19:15.02 | mirko | however the installer is blaming me for having configured my swap partition outside the crypto-container |
| 19:15.26 | mirko | "An unsafe swap space has been detected." |
| 19:15.39 | Aenigma | mirko: no, that's the swap space you're using now |
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| 19:16.00 | mirko | Aenigma: can you elaborate? |
| 19:16.02 | Aenigma | mirko: you can't make crypto partitions with an unencrypted swapspace enabled. |
| 19:16.27 | mirko | Aenigma: which swap partition? it's the installer |
| 19:16.34 | mirko | Aenigma: i didn't configure any swap |
| 19:16.38 | mirko | *confused* |
| 19:16.49 | Aenigma | you have to run swapoff in a separate tty. The Debian installer automounts swap detected on your machine. |
| 19:17.08 | Aenigma | I had the same problem a while ago |
| 19:17.14 | mirko | Aenigma: there's no swap partition yet configured |
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| 19:17.31 | mirko | Aenigma: the installer is an USB stick (iso->usb-stick) and the harddrive is zeroed |
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| 19:18.19 | Aenigma | mirko: could you run swapon -s just in case? |
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| 19:18.22 | mirko | Aenigma: 'cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i swap' shows me "0 kB swap" |
| 19:18.46 | mirko | Aenigma: "SwapTotal 0 kB" |
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| 19:20.28 | mirko | Aenigma: it's more than misleading: it suggests a) to run swapoff (however there is no active swap in fact) or b) to configure an encrypted swap (which _is_ the case) |
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| 19:20.51 | Aenigma | Hm |
| 19:21.16 | Aenigma | when you configure to lvm, does it default to using the unspecified partition as swap? |
| 19:21.43 | mirko | Aenigma: as said, there is no swap active, so it doesn't use the swap inside the LVM inside the crypto yet |
| 19:21.45 | Aenigma | there's a bug report detailing this here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=414309 |
| 19:22.20 | mirko | Aenigma: |
| 19:22.20 | mirko | I have a second disk with an independent installation of Debian on it. |
| 19:22.20 | mirko | From looking at /proc/swaps, it appears that the installer saw a swap |
| 19:22.21 | mirko | partition there and is using it. I didn't ask it to. |
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| 19:22.37 | mirko | grr |
| 19:22.51 | mirko | the reporter says the installer just used an existing swap |
| 19:22.58 | mirko | this is not the case for me |
| 19:23.11 | mirko | there's no swap and (therewith obviusly) none is used |
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| 19:23.30 | DasEi | mirko: information of mount ? |
| 19:23.45 | mirko | DasEi: no swap |
| 19:23.57 | Aenigma | mirko: by the way, I've always lvm in an encrypted volume. I don't know why you'd want to do the opposite. |
| 19:24.09 | Aenigma | mirko: perhaps I'm being a bit nosy there, though |
| 19:24.11 | mirko | Aenigma: ? my setup is the same? |
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| 19:24.25 | DasEi | mirko: blkid as root ? |
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| 19:24.44 | mirko | Aenigma: did i mix it up somewhere? crypto -> lvm -> swap (outer to inner) |
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| 19:25.12 | iluminator101 | this smartsource coupon to print does not load on my pc, does anyone know a work around for this? |
| 19:25.26 | Aenigma | mirko: no, wait, that's right, sorry. |
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| 19:25.52 | mirko | DasEi: 4: sda1, vfat (usb-stick, installer) | sdb1: ext2 (boot) | sdb2: crypto_LUKS | ,apper/sdb2_crypt: LVM2_member |
| 19:26.34 | Aenigma | mirko: does it work if you try doing guided encrypted partitioning? |
| 19:26.48 | DasEi | mirko: .. but still no hint about a used swap ? where did you get the warning about unsecure swap ? |
| 19:26.50 | mirko | Aenigma: didn't try yet |
| 19:27.11 | Kre10s | I've got this package: linux-image-2.6-amd64 - Linux 2.6 for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) what is the exact kernel version of that? |
| 19:27.30 | mirko | DasEi: partitioner (manual) -> finish partitioning -> write changes to disk -> yes -> error |
| 19:27.39 | Kre10s | 2.6.35.4? |
| 19:27.59 | mirko | Kre10s: isn't fixed, take a look for its dependencies |
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| 19:28.38 | mirko | Kre10s: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-2.6-amd64&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 19:28.43 | DasEi | mirko: you can set up encrypted partitions without swap, which is less secure than either wipe or secure it, too, or even go without swap, I got you wrong in first hand, as I felt the complain came later, in a running os |
| 19:29.07 | mirko | DasEi: i'm still inside the installer |
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| 19:29.41 | mirko | DasEi: sorry, I didn't get it |
| 19:29.44 | DasEi | mirko: ah : manually >> lvm > use a own member for swap, encrypt lvm |
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| 19:33.17 | DasEi | mirko: usually one gets this worning when choosing wde and then later sets up an unencrypted swap |
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| 19:33.24 | DasEi | warning* |
| 19:33.31 | mirko | DasEi: Aenigma: good old screenshots: http://nanl.de/debian/ |
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| 19:35.23 | Aenigma | mirko: that looks good, I think. |
| 19:35.52 | mirko | so it is likely a bug |
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| 19:36.38 | Aenigma | swapon -s returned nothing, correct? |
| 19:37.07 | mirko | Aenigma: we're inside the installer - it's busybox ;) |
| 19:37.13 | mirko | there's no "-s" |
| 19:37.32 | jelly-home | mirko: the installer has its own irc channel, btw. #debian-boot on irc.debian.org (oftc) |
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| 19:37.46 | mirko | gnaaa - "Back" and "Continue" inside the warning dialog both jump into the partition dialog |
| 19:37.53 | mirko | so i'm not able to continue at all |
| 19:37.58 | justjealouse | im trying to uninstall an old version of wine, but it says there are unmet dependencies, how can there be unmet dependencies for an unistall |
| 19:38.26 | jelly-home | justjealouse: uninstall all of its packages at the same time |
| 19:38.37 | mirko | jelly-home: thanks, but i'm the only user in this channel right now ;) |
| 19:38.58 | Aenigma | justjealouse: are you using aptitude? |
| 19:38.59 | mirko | jelly-home: pardon, besides ChanServ :) |
| 19:39.08 | jelly-home | mirko: you're not there at all! |
| 19:39.16 | jelly-home | mirko: different irc network |
| 19:39.23 | justjealouse | k |
| 19:39.28 | mirko | jelly-home: you didn't mention that ;) |
| 19:39.46 | mirko | jelly-home: i get redirected to ##debian-boot (freenode) |
| 19:39.50 | jelly-home | yes I... I see what you did there. |
| 19:39.51 | simonlnu | yes he did |
| 19:40.08 | Aenigma | mirko: yes, he did. he said, "on irc.debian.org" |
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| 19:40.37 | justjealouse | second question, i need to install a set of .debs all at once, libwine* and wine* how do i make it install both at once |
| 19:40.39 | mirko | jelly-home: Aenigma: eeks! sorry.. |
| 19:40.57 | jelly-home | justjealouse: use dpkg. |
| 19:40.59 | justjealouse | i only know how to dpkg -i wine* to install a set with the same name, but when they have different names im confused |
| 19:41.02 | Sadistt0 | justjealouse: dpkg -i *.deb ? |
| 19:41.14 | justjealouse | that works too |
| 19:41.25 | jelly-home | justjealouse: same thing. * is interpreted by the shell anyway. |
| 19:41.53 | jelly-home | justjealouse: try "echo dpkg -i libwine* wine* " |
| 19:42.20 | jelly-home | if you're satisfied with the command, remove the "echo" part |
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| 19:42.46 | jelly-home | or create and use a local repository |
| 19:43.05 | Sadistt0 | or use wine repository :) |
| 19:43.41 | jelly-home | there is none for Debian |
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| 19:45.15 | DelphiWorld | Re |
| 19:45.21 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: sory for asking back ;) |
| 19:45.27 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: ip link dev up wlan0 right ? |
| 19:45.36 | Some_Person | Why does the Debian/GNOME live CD exceed the size of a CD? |
| 19:45.43 | thewanderer1 | nope :P |
| 19:45.58 | thewanderer1 | DelphiWorld: ip link set up dev wlan0... write it down :P |
| 19:46.45 | wols_ | Some_Person: compressed filesystem. or what do you mean? |
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| 19:47.13 | Some_Person | wols_: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 19:47.18 | Some_Person | the size of the ISO is 1.1G |
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| 19:49.19 | DelphiWorld | love thewanderer1 ! |
| 19:49.56 | wols_ | DelphiWorld: TMI |
| 19:50.09 | DelphiWorld | WOLLTMI? |
| 19:50.53 | thewanderer1 | Some_Person: use the stable images... current == testing, and they are not trimmed |
| 19:51.04 | Some_Person | oh |
| 19:51.12 | Some_Person | thanks -- I didn't realize that |
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| 19:51.43 | Some_Person | So the link to "stable" on this page is wrong? http://live.debian.net/ |
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| 19:52.26 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: i have no luck with adhoc at all :( |
| 19:52.56 | thewanderer1 | Some_Person: I think it is indeed - there's no way in hell 1st september coincides with Debian Stable |
| 19:53.34 | Some_Person | ok, so where the heck do I find the latest stable version? |
| 19:54.09 | DelphiWorld | my PC: 172.18.0.122. Debian: 0.3. Router: 0.1. iPhone: 0.207. can ping everywhere except debian. debian can ping everywhere except my PC. |
| 19:54.24 | thewanderer1 | Some_Person: I guess here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 19:54.44 | Some_Person | thewanderer1: But that's not the live version |
| 19:54.45 | Kre10s | I'm getting this while upgrading... http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1329640 |
| 19:54.59 | thewanderer1 | oh wait |
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| 19:55.44 | DasEi | mirko: solved your problem ? |
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| 19:55.48 | thewanderer1 | no CD images for you, then. it's a DVD age |
| 19:56.00 | Some_Person | well damn |
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| 19:56.04 | Some_Person | I wanted to use a 1GB SD card |
| 19:56.07 | thewanderer1 | (why exactly they ever grew in size, I don't have an idea) |
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| 19:57.45 | Some_Person | I just need to reinstall GRUB |
| 19:57.50 | Sadistt0 | cd & dvd - rip |
| 19:57.55 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: can the phone ping the pc |
| 19:58.08 | Sadistt0 | flash era is now :) |
| 19:58.13 | DelphiWorld | jelly: can't try but PC can ping it. |
| 19:58.14 | nitzs | DelphiWorld: Are you able to ping your PC from the iphone? |
| 19:58.18 | thewanderer1 | Some_Person: you can do that using an install CD |
| 19:58.25 | Some_Person | thewanderer1: really? |
| 19:58.33 | thewanderer1 | Some_Person: it has a rescue mode, yes |
| 19:58.34 | DelphiWorld | nitzs: PC can ping the Phone but i don't have how to ping from iphone ;) |
| 19:58.39 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: I'm betting nothing can ping the PC because of its firewall anyway |
| 19:58.57 | DelphiWorld | jelly: nothing in PC at all. router can ping the PC. |
| 19:59.02 | thewanderer1 | Some_Person: as to how to boot that from SD, I'm not sure yet, but should be possible - consult the installation manual |
| 19:59.18 | Some_Person | thewanderer1: That part's easy -- unetbootin |
| 19:59.25 | jelly-home | router might be a special case |
| 19:59.40 | DelphiWorld | jelly: no |
| 19:59.42 | Some_Person | My system recognizes anything in the SD slot as a normal USB drive |
| 19:59.47 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: that's a adhoc network |
| 19:59.59 | mirko | DasEi: nope |
| 20:00.06 | mirko | DasEi: currently creating a bug report |
| 20:00.18 | DasEi | Some_Person: so just for grub2 can even dd a iso from supergrubdisk to sd |
| 20:00.48 | DasEi | mirko: noo, I'm in ##debian-boot,mind coming there ? |
| 20:01.21 | Some_Person | I just need to reinstall GRUB2 to my partition bootsector (it's currently installed in a horridly bad way) |
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| 20:02.37 | Kre10s | I'm getting this while upgrading... http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1329640 How do i fix this? |
| 20:02.58 | DasEi | Some_Person: so either need to boot another os and chroot in or try to boot a broken sys and then re-install grub |
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| 20:03.20 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: how do i change the ip addr of a wlan iface from shell ? |
| 20:03.31 | Some_Person | DasEi: Can I reinstall it from within a Debian installation on that partition? |
| 20:03.36 | Some_Person | (that's where I am now) |
| 20:04.13 | DasEi | Some_Person: yes, you will need to chroot and moutn-bind some few other 3 or partitons for that |
| 20:04.31 | Some_Person | Why do I need to do that? |
| 20:05.20 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: the usual way I guess? ifconfig ifacename ip.ad.dre.ss netmask net.ma.s.k |
| 20:05.47 | DasEi | Some_Person: I assume if your grub is broken, you can't boot in your preferred way, so need an independent system that can |
| 20:05.57 | Some_Person | DasEi: Actually, I am able to boot just fine |
| 20:06.02 | Some_Person | GRUB is just installed weirdly |
| 20:06.11 | DasEi | Some_Person: explain more .. |
| 20:06.18 | DasEi | doesn't work .. |
| 20:06.26 | Some_Person | GRUB is installed to a file on my Windows partition, that the Windows bootloader can load |
| 20:06.41 | Some_Person | I want to change that so GRUB is installed to my partition bootsector |
| 20:07.02 | DasEi | Some_Person: I see, which windows ? |
| 20:07.05 | Some_Person | 7 |
| 20:07.10 | DasEi | ah |
| 20:07.37 | nitzs | Some_Person: does update-grub not work? |
| 20:07.45 | Some_Person | I don't like my ability to boot Linux to be dependent on my Windows partition |
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| 20:08.47 | DasEi | Some_Person: I haven't had a chance to play with that, and before you follow my advice please first ask in ##windows for their latest gags; else install grub2 from debian to mbr and run an os-prober |
| 20:08.59 | Some_Person | I don't want GRUB2 in my MBR |
| 20:09.17 | DasEi | (22:06:36) Some_Person: I want to change that so GRUB is installed to my partition bootsector |
| 20:09.27 | Some_Person | yes, the *partition bootsector* |
| 20:09.37 | DasEi | so not hte mbr |
| 20:09.48 | Some_Person | as in, what you would get if you did "grub-install /dev/sda3" on a live CD |
| 20:10.09 | DasEi | Some_Person: so you have win7 chainloading grub right now and want what ? |
| 20:10.56 | jelly-home | it's easier to set up grub2 chainloading win7 than vice-versa :-| |
| 20:11.01 | Some_Person | I'm going to put a different bootloader in my MBR. That one requires GRUB to be on the partition bootsector to chainload it |
| 20:11.03 | DasEi | Some_Person: a warning, and will be prompted for that attempt to intall grub to a parti |
| 20:11.34 | DasEi | jelly-home: yes, if you're up with win7 and newer hardware, ;) |
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| 20:12.01 | jelly-home | DasEi: this worked on a 2005 Thinkpad |
| 20:12.35 | DasEi | jelly-home: I'd go the same way, it's just idk, I don't use win 7 |
| 20:12.58 | jelly-home | I'm sure Some_Person has an excellent reason not to do that! |
| 20:13.22 | Some_Person | jelly-home: not to do what? |
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| 20:13.46 | jelly-home | Some_Person: put grub2 in mbr |
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| 20:14.11 | Aenigma | Some_Person: why would you do that? GRUB is the most versatile of all the bootloaders. You want it in the MBR |
| 20:14.52 | Some_Person | Why am I being questioned like this? |
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| 20:15.28 | jelly-home | mainly because of not providing said reason |
| 20:15.29 | DelphiWorld | never give up, jelly-home |
| 20:16.08 | Some_Person | Here's the deal: I want to use a different bootloader in my MBR. This bootloader is not detecting Linux because there is nothing in the partition bootsector |
| 20:16.39 | Aenigma | Some_Person: you want to use the windows bootloader to chainload grub, yes? |
| 20:16.39 | cafuego | Some_Person: so write grub to the partition bootsector, problem solved. |
| 20:16.52 | Some_Person | cafuego: EXACTLY! |
| 20:17.06 | cafuego | Some_Person: So why don't you? grub-install /dev/sdaX |
| 20:17.11 | cafuego | done |
| 20:17.31 | Some_Person | cafuego: Can this be done from *within* the install on that partition, or do I need to use a Live CD? |
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| 20:17.50 | cafuego | Some_Person: You need 1) grub2 and 2) access to the partition device file. |
| 20:18.02 | jelly-home | grub-install is usually started from within |
| 20:18.03 | cafuego | Some_Person: So both option 1 and option 2 will work. |
| 20:19.08 | Some_Person | Why the heck does grub-install say "/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR. This is a BAD idea.." |
| 20:19.35 | cafuego | Some_Person: becasue that would traditionally leave you unable to boot (if you don't have anything in the MBR) |
| 20:20.05 | DelphiWorld | jelly: Fun! Replying. |
| 20:20.07 | Some_Person | It also says "/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.." |
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| 20:20.11 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: :P |
| 20:20.19 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: Broadcast address was missing |
| 20:20.33 | Some_Person | What are "blocklists" and what makes them "unreliable"? |
| 20:20.38 | cafuego | Some_Person: no idea |
| 20:20.44 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: "should not happen" |
| 20:21.02 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: so , i added broadcast and is pinging;) |
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| 20:21.44 | Aenigma | Some_Person: blocklists are reffered to device names like (hd0,1), etc I believe |
| 20:22.13 | jelly-home | Some_Person: AFAIUI, grub 2 works the same way as lilo in this scenario -- it writes down exactly where its stages are on the disk. |
| 20:22.34 | Some_Person | Is that bad? |
| 20:22.39 | Aenigma | grub2 genereally autodetects stuff |
| 20:22.50 | Aenigma | generally* I'm bad today :3 |
| 20:23.01 | jelly-home | Some_Person: a package upgrade will necessitate a grub-install again |
| 20:23.12 | jelly-home | Some_Person: I think. |
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| 20:23.24 | jelly-home | Some_Person: I just gave up and put it in MBR. |
| 20:23.28 | alazare619 | blahaha i got banned from #ubuntu |
| 20:23.30 | cafuego | Some_Person: Not so bad, LILO worked fine for nearly everyone for decades :-) |
| 20:23.30 | alazare619 | there scrubs anyways |
| 20:23.32 | alazare619 | get a real debian distro |
| 20:23.40 | DelphiWorld | Well go to multicast right now |
| 20:23.47 | jelly-home | alazare619: we don't care! |
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| 20:23.48 | Aenigma | jelly-home: yes, it should. unless there are some options so that you can specify where to install grub |
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| 20:24.12 | jelly-home | Aenigma: sorry? |
| 20:24.12 | alazare619 | jelly-home just thought id say so :P |
| 20:24.19 | alazare619 | so i need testers for my distro |
| 20:24.29 | Aenigma | jelly-home: whenever grub2 updates, it'll probably install in /dev/sda or what have you |
| 20:24.32 | Aenigma | like you said |
| 20:24.46 | jelly-home | alazare619: please don't. This is a tech support channel, and for Debian (not derivatives). |
| 20:24.55 | cafuego | alazare619: Oh you for banned for spamming unrelated crap? |
| 20:25.04 | cafuego | well done |
| 20:25.21 | alazare619 | no i was banned cause o went off on a guy whose name was HappyNineEleven |
| 20:25.40 | cafuego | alazare619: Maybe his birthday is november 9? |
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| 20:25.59 | alazare619 | doubtfull |
| 20:26.04 | cafuego | alazare619: Or are you oe of those people who can't write dates either |
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| 20:26.19 | cafuego | or eats freedom fries |
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| 20:26.37 | jelly-home | cafuego: bashing USians for their inadequate date formats isn't really topical either! |
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| 20:27.13 | chipotle | how can i manually retrieve my bookmarks from iceweasal? |
| 20:27.16 | chipotle | where are they located? |
| 20:27.18 | cafuego | jelly-home: No, but it helps to remind them from time to time they have dumb-arse expectations of the world. |
| 20:27.20 | Aenigma | Fun Fact: They're called french fries because the style in cutting the potatos are referred to as "french" and has nothing to do with france |
| 20:27.42 | ompaul | cafuego: pm |
| 20:27.45 | alazare619 | whats the command to show channel lists... |
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| 20:27.58 | jelly-home | alazare619: /msg alis help |
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| 20:48.08 | chipotle | how can i manually retrieve my bookmarks from iceweasal? |
| 20:48.10 | chipotle | where are they located? |
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| 21:04.03 | Cap_K | good evening |
| 21:05.27 | somiaj | chipotle: .mozilla or .firefox -- usually in one of those two in your home dir |
| 21:05.27 | babilen | o/ |
| 21:05.32 | Cap_K | (: |
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| 21:07.04 | simonlnu | ~/.mozilla/firefox |
| 21:07.23 | babilen | somiaj: You can also export them from within firefox/iceweasel in the bookmark manager. But they are saved in ~/.mozilla/firefox/[a-z0-9]*.default/ .. not entirely sure which file(s) exactly though. |
| 21:08.34 | simonlnu | it's a sqlite3 db |
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| 21:09.27 | simonlnu | places.sqlite |
| 21:09.31 | jack_lt | Please set JAVA_HOME to the path of a valid jre |
| 21:09.32 | jack_lt | how? |
| 21:09.56 | simonlnu | what's the real issue? |
| 21:10.34 | jack_lt | trying to get funambol running on my debian server |
| 21:11.00 | jack_lt | # /opt/Funambol/bin/install |
| 21:11.00 | jack_lt | ./ant/bin/ant: line 299: /opt/Funambol/tools/jre-1.6.0/jre/bin/java: cannot execute binary file |
| 21:11.00 | jack_lt | ./ant/bin/ant: line 299: /opt/Funambol/tools/jre-1.6.0/jre/bin/java: Success |
| 21:11.38 | somiaj | babilen: the fileis called bookmarks.html and is nice to get for when you ssh into your computer and want your book marks. Note it use to be .firefox and iceweasle still honors profiles there, but the default now is .mozilla/firefox -- (: |
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| 21:12.18 | simonlnu | ~/.mozilla/firefox/<someprofile>/places.sqlite bookmarks.html isn't used any more |
| 21:12.21 | somiaj | jack_lt: export JAVA_HOME="/path/to/java" |
| 21:12.47 | somiaj | hmm, I haven't used firefox/icewealse in about a year so didn't notice that change. |
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| 21:12.57 | jack_lt | somiaj, and how to know the path? |
| 21:13.09 | somiaj | jack_lt: check which java's you ahve installed |
| 21:13.20 | jack_lt | # which java |
| 21:13.21 | jack_lt | /usr/bin/java |
| 21:13.27 | somiaj | is the sqlite file parseablle or do you need some other app to extract the bookmarks from it now? |
| 21:13.38 | somiaj | jack_lt: its probabaly a link |
| 21:13.41 | jack_lt | There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java |
| 21:13.42 | babilen | somiaj: yeah, i've found it in the meanwhile, but thanks ... collective intelligence ftw |
| 21:14.00 | jack_lt | is tha tthe path? |
| 21:14.08 | jack_lt | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.22 | jelly-home | somiaj: um, that doesn't seem like a correct JAVA_HOME |
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| 21:14.51 | jelly-home | something like "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre" would be more appropriate |
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| 21:15.19 | jelly-home | when using Debian's package, setting JAVA_HOME explicitely should not be needed |
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| 21:18.00 | jack_lt | Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/lib/tools.jar |
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| 21:20.51 | LocoenelCoco | anybody knows a good up to date guide to teach me how to install pulseaudio on debian squeeze? |
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| 21:26.26 | chipotle | somiaj: where inside? what do i look for? |
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| 21:28.30 | zykotick9_ | LocoenelCoco, i don't know of a guide, but personally from netinstall/gnome i use "apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-utils pavumeter pavucontrol gnome-audio" |
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| 21:29.42 | LocoenelCoco | zykotick9_, dont need to configure or such? u just do that and it works? hehe |
| 21:29.56 | zykotick9_ | LocoenelCoco, i believe so yes |
| 21:29.56 | LocoenelCoco | sorry im new to linux |
| 21:30.10 | LocoenelCoco | zykotick9_, i will try that ty |
| 21:30.30 | zykotick9_ | LocoenelCoco, you can probably ignore the bluetooth one if you don't use BT |
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| 21:30.47 | LocoenelCoco | yeah sure |
| 21:30.52 | chipotle | somiaj: i don't see anything with bookmarks, unfortunately :/ |
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| 21:34.09 | simonlnu | chipotle: (repost) ~/.mozilla/firefox/<someprofile>/places.sqlite ; bookmarks.html isn't used any more |
| 21:34.37 | chipotle | simonlnu: how do i read that sqlite file? |
| 21:34.54 | chipotle | i'm trying to recover my bookmarks from a backup |
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| 21:35.09 | nezZario | Where is uh, lvm? |
| 21:35.16 | simonlnu | open the bookmarks manager, and do whatever you need to. |
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| 21:35.30 | LocoenelCoco | zykotick9_, ok all packages installed any tips on how i switch from alsa to pulse now? |
| 21:35.38 | nezZario | I don't have a 'lvm' executable |
| 21:35.44 | nezZario | Nor 'lvcreate', 'pvcreate', etc |
| 21:35.45 | chipotle | simonlnu: so i can just take that file, open the bookmarks manager and tell it to open that bookmarks file (places.sqlite)? |
| 21:35.49 | nezZario | I don't see it as a package |
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| 21:40.20 | negger | aah |
| 21:40.25 | nezZario | seriously? |
| 21:40.26 | negger | so guys |
| 21:40.27 | nezZario | where the hell is lvm? |
| 21:40.38 | negger | Is there a way to use inputattach to work with a serial mouse? |
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| 21:41.01 | negger | also... How do I do input attach |
| 21:41.03 | negger | err |
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| 21:41.54 | negger | how do I keyboard |
| 21:41.58 | negger | err |
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| 21:43.20 | negger | how do I take a list of packages separated by carriage returns (0As or 0D 0As) and install them all using aptitude? |
| 21:43.40 | zykotick9_ | LocoenelCoco, that's a common misconception - Pulse actually uses ALSA for it's lowlevel stuff, Pulse is actually a replacement for ESD. Ahhh, other then restarting I'm not really sure, sorry. |
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| 21:45.05 | th0r | negger: you going to misbehave here like you just did in #ubuntu? |
| 21:45.08 | negger | no |
| 21:45.15 | negger | I was just testing to see if ANYONE was online at all |
| 21:45.50 | negger | It's all rubbity dib jabby |
| 21:45.59 | negger | I feel like running my ouchers program again |
| 21:46.13 | negger | I'm really really tempted to misbehave because people aren't answering my questions? |
| 21:46.24 | negger | But I won't, because I value my stay at #debian |
| 21:46.34 | th0r | can't understand that...you are such a considerate individual |
| 21:46.52 | DelphiWorld | how do i enable multicast ? |
| 21:46.55 | negger | I think I can answer my own input attach problem if I went on the web |
| 21:47.17 | negger | as for aptitude install < from_a_file, well, that's probably not possible |
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| 21:49.02 | negger | I said how can we be lovers if we can't be friends? |
| 21:49.07 | negger | How can we be lovers |
| 21:49.19 | negger | It's time for the rubbity dib dab jive |
| 21:49.35 | kristian-aalborg | hmm |
| 21:49.47 | El_Bastardo | is the package "xml2" the one that gets me XML rendering? |
| 21:49.48 | negger | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:49.51 | kristian-aalborg | setfont produces "cannot find default font"... google is of no help |
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| 21:50.18 | El_Bastardo | because I am trying to run "Program E" on the webserver and I get " |
| 21:50.19 | El_Bastardo | Loading startup.xml |
| 21:50.19 | El_Bastardo | could not open XML input" |
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| 21:50.50 | babilen | negger: You have been silenced for 10 minutes. Please try to stay on-topic and refrain from messages like the one you've just sent or those in #ubuntu. Thank you. |
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| 21:51.35 | alazare619 | owned! |
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| 21:51.46 | El_Bastardo | there was no ownage in that.. |
| 21:51.46 | toolbag | hi guys |
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| 21:51.50 | El_Bastardo | just a simple kick and ban |
| 21:52.01 | El_Bastardo | oh; there was no kick |
| 21:52.02 | El_Bastardo | owned. |
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| 21:52.19 | babilen | Lets move on ... |
| 21:52.33 | El_Bastardo | yes, let's |
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| 21:53.44 | zykotick9_ | I'm having some trouble with icedove and a POP mail account, where can I find details/logs for what is happening? I'm not getting any errors during send/receive but I'm not getting any mail for the last 2 days. Signing onto the account through webmail, shows there a lots of emails that have arrived (I use this account for my Debian mailing lists). |
| 21:53.51 | toolbag | dpkg is insisting that i should autoremove a whole bunch of packages. basically it wants me to uninstall all of gnome because i removed the gnome-desktop pacakge i believe. |
| 21:53.51 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, toolbag |
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| 21:55.32 | toolbag | back |
| 21:55.56 | zykotick9_ | toolbag, that dark side of meta packages, good luck. |
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| 21:56.53 | toolbag | i am having an seemingly odd issue with dpkg. it insists on telling me with every apt command that i should autoremove basically most of gnome. i don't have a problem with that in principle, but it would see strange that it would insist on removing most of gnome just because i removed something like the gnome metapackage (actually, I don't know which package triggered this, perhaps removing evoloution) |
| 21:57.00 | amphi | toolbag: aptitude's desire to remove all of gnome is a sign of its good taste, IMHO |
| 21:57.17 | somiaj | chipotle: as the converastion got it, it was changed to a places.sqlite file |
| 21:57.18 | toolbag | is it possible to tell dpkg to shut up about certain packages? |
| 21:57.26 | babilen | toolbag: You want to install one of the smaller metapackages (/msg dpkg install gnome) and mark other packages you want to keep as manually installed (apt-get install PKG -- aptitude unmarkauto PKG). Another approach would be to mark *all* depedencies and recommends of the gnome metapackage as manually installed, which is detailed in "/msg dpkg remove rhythmbox" -- I would personally recommend the former and you probably want the gnome-session, ... |
| 21:57.31 | babilen | ... gnome-core or gnomedesktop-environment metapackage. |
| 21:57.43 | toolbag | amphi: lol me too, i have switched to something completely different. only using gnome while i write a new ui for this tablet pc |
| 21:57.56 | amphi | toolbag: ;) |
| 21:58.22 | toolbag | babilen: oh sweet, thank you kindly |
| 21:58.28 | toolbag | really appreciate that |
| 21:58.30 | babilen | toolbag: Have fun :) |
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| 21:59.40 | alazare619 | toolbag just let it remove it then fix broken then install gnome-minimal |
| 22:00.08 | alazare619 | thats why i refuse to use meta's and instead just install each by hand i use netinstall's and manually install each by hand |
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| 22:01.38 | alazare619 | hmm |
| 22:02.35 | toolbag | that is interesting too. thank you |
| 22:02.36 | DelphiWorld | hey babilen :) |
| 22:02.41 | babilen | alazare619: nothing wrong with the gnome-session metapackage, but sure, you can install all the packages manually. |
| 22:03.15 | babilen | DelphiWorld: o/ |
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| 22:03.28 | DelphiWorld | babilen: i'm in a real fight with deb6:) |
| 22:03.52 | babilen | DelphiWorld: Just surrender, it'll win anyway |
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| 22:04.04 | DelphiWorld | babilen: :) |
| 22:04.13 | DelphiWorld | babilen: Multicast problem. |
| 22:04.30 | babilen | DelphiWorld: ask the channel please, if I have something to contribute i'll let you know |
| 22:04.40 | DelphiWorld | babilen: hahaha, i know |
| 22:04.49 | DelphiWorld | so, anyway to enable multicast on debian6 ? |
| 22:05.01 | DelphiWorld | i am multicasting through VLC but is not working at all |
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| 22:05.35 | negger | okay |
| 22:05.40 | negger | now that I'm back |
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| 22:06.01 | toolbag | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.01 | negger | I SAID HOW DO I TAKE A LIST OF PACKAGES SEPARATED BY CARRIAGE RETURNS AND PIPE THEM INTO APTITUDE TO INSTALL THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 22:06.05 | negger | oops |
| 22:06.06 | windparadise | hello, pls how do I fix this issue again ? |
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| 22:06.11 | toolbag | sorry about that |
| 22:06.16 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 22:06.30 | windparadise | root@storecomplex:~# apt-get install phpmyadmin E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using |
| 22:06.34 | simonlnu | doesn't learn... |
| 22:07.24 | windparadise | what do I do pls ? |
| 22:07.58 | streuner | simonlnu: some people never learn ;-) |
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| 22:08.30 | windparadise | me? |
| 22:08.42 | DelphiWorld | yo nezZario ! |
| 22:08.56 | ||__\\\ | windparadise: i think you have another (hanged?) package manager running |
| 22:09.03 | streuner | if you are able to read, then no, otherwise feel free to think you are in this group |
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| 22:09.57 | simonlnu | windparadise: something's using it already |
| 22:10.32 | windparadise | ok, i was running it till my internet went off |
| 22:10.32 | themill | !status lock |
| 22:10.32 | dpkg | If you have errors that there the dpkg status database cannot be locked, check to see if another package management tool is already running. This might be aptitude, dpkg, update-manager, unattended-upgrades, synaptic, ... Find out by running (as root): fuser -vi /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
| 22:10.54 | windparadise | i was installing phpmyadmin |
| 22:11.52 | tdrusk | Hey. Can someone verify this for me? I had a problem with grub2 and followed http://wiki.debian.org/Grub to fix it. I followed "When I upgraded from grub to grub2 I lost an entry to XP/WP7 , how can I recover the menu entry to boot there?" and it caused a ton of lines of unreadable errors to crop up and basically force me to restart. So I did it again, without the GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false and it worked. So the line is clearly not |
| 22:12.20 | toolbag | so it was evolution |
| 22:12.28 | toolbag | i cannot believe evolution is considered part of gnome-core |
| 22:12.30 | toolbag | oh well |
| 22:12.35 | toolbag | thank you kindly for your help guys |
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| 22:16.35 | ||__\\\ | windparadise: you could 'ps aux | grep apt' and see if there are any apt-get/aptitude processes running, if there are, kill them with 'pkill apt' and then look with the ps command again and, if they're gone, delete the lockfile |
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| 22:17.00 | ||__\\\ | then you should be able to run your package manager |
| 22:17.06 | windparadise | I'm slaughtering them |
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| 22:17.23 | streuner | windparadise: or just a brutal way, just reboot, if you can |
| 22:17.29 | themill | .... where could it go wrong |
| 22:17.42 | windparadise | ok |
| 22:17.47 | ||__\\\ | why would you reboot for something like that? :D |
| 22:18.00 | windparadise | done |
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| 22:18.14 | streuner | why not? |
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| 22:18.45 | streuner | or is that a question of your selfconvidence? |
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| 22:21.29 | ||__\\\ | windparadise: it is the lock-file that prevents you from running the application, so that no harm comes to your installed packages and or package database |
| 22:21.37 | ||__\\\ | things could get messy like that |
| 22:22.16 | windparadise | ok, thanks, I have killed the process and ran dpkg --cofigure -a |
| 22:22.23 | windparadise | which continued the installaiton |
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| 22:22.28 | windparadise | so I don't need to start from scratch |
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| 22:23.09 | ||__\\\ | streuner: you should only need to reboot when you have upgraded your kernel, or something has gone really bad |
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| 22:23.41 | markmental | I have a question about Debian Testing I am currently running stable. How messed up can testing get. Because I can fix synaptic if it screws up but not if apt-get or aptitude fails. |
| 22:23.44 | Jef91 | Anyone running on squeeze can you paste me the contents of your /etc/inittab file? |
| 22:23.46 | ||__\\\ | but i guess that is my server-think |
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| 22:24.33 | ||__\\\ | markmental: why do you need to run testing? |
| 22:24.52 | ||__\\\ | I've just tried a few times, and it didn't work out that well |
| 22:24.57 | windparadise | but I don't know how to run phpmyadmin |
| 22:25.02 | markmental | I just want to research In case I do want to |
| 22:25.09 | markmental | which I probably wont |
| 22:25.10 | windparadise | I tried running it by appending /phpmyadmin and it didn't work |
| 22:25.31 | streuner | jef91: amset:/tmp# ls -l /etc/inittab |
| 22:25.31 | streuner | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2008 25. Jul 2007 /etc/inittab |
| 22:25.53 | streuner | jef91: would that be enough, its sid, but i think, it should be the same in squeeze? |
| 22:26.05 | Jef91 | those two lines are in it only? |
| 22:26.13 | streuner | jef91: according to the date of the file, no. |
| 22:26.28 | Jef91 | I need the contents of the file |
| 22:26.34 | ||__\\\ | markmental: instead I use stable and add testing repositories and "pin" those down in /etc/apt/preferences, that way I can install packages from testing with 'aptitude install <package>/wheezy' |
| 22:26.58 | ||__\\\ | and aptitude will help me resolving dependencies (most of the time) |
| 22:27.08 | markmental | Sorry I have been told to NEVER mix testing and stable repo's |
| 22:27.49 | ||__\\\ | windparadise: what? run phpmyadmin how? |
| 22:27.52 | Jef91 | markmental mixing the two will be better than running straight testing |
| 22:28.16 | wols_ | Jef91: please don't tell people such falsehoods |
| 22:28.17 | windparadise | http://localhost/phpmyadmin |
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| 22:28.29 | wols_ | Jef91: mixing them is the fastest way to a reinstallation |
| 22:28.40 | ||__\\\ | markmental: it is safe if you pin the testing repo down, that means that the stable repo will have priority over the testing repo, even though there are newer versions in the testing repo |
| 22:28.46 | markmental | I am in love with the stability and I suppose I could just compile the latest programs I need and i think wols_ is right |
| 22:28.56 | wols_ | markmental: ignore them. it is not safe no matter what |
| 22:29.04 | wols_ | ||__\\\: please don't tell people that |
| 22:29.14 | rookie2030 | anyone can help im trying my own bash cript and how i use a for variable to grep |
| 22:29.21 | ||__\\\ | wols_: oh |
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| 22:29.42 | Jef91 | anyone want to just paste bin me the contents of their /etc/inittab file please? |
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| 22:30.25 | markmental | A pure Squeeze one? |
| 22:30.26 | windparadise | ||__\\\: please look at this: Alias /phpmyadmin /usr/share/phpmyadmin <Directory /usr/share/phpmyadmin> Options FollowSymLinks DirectoryIndex index.php |
| 22:30.36 | Jef91 | if you could markmental |
| 22:30.50 | streuner | Jef91: http://paste.debian.net/129466/ |
| 22:31.10 | rookie2030 | i want to use for for reading a file and then use it for search words with grep |
| 22:31.38 | streuner | Jef91: as we already told you, that's out of sid, but i think, it should be the same |
| 22:31.42 | wols_ | rookie2030: why can't you use grep directly? and I strongly suggest you ask #bash |
| 22:32.04 | Jef91 | should be fine |
| 22:32.18 | windparadise | I have restarted apache but it didn't solve the issue |
| 22:32.23 | markmental | here you go http://pastebin.com/U6en0Lag |
| 22:32.32 | rookie2030 | thanls |
| 22:33.50 | ||__\\\ | windparadise: anything in the log files? |
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| 22:34.18 | windparadise | euh, oh, I think I don't have log files set up yet |
| 22:34.30 | windparadise | or where does log files normally resides? |
| 22:34.30 | wols_ | windparadise: apache logs by default |
| 22:34.36 | windparadise | ok |
| 22:34.42 | wols_ | all logfiles are in /var/log |
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| 22:38.11 | windparadise | 41.218.252.232 - - [12/Sep/2011:02:23:07 +0400] "GET /phpmyadmin HTTP/1.1" 404 507 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0" |
| 22:38.30 | zeroedout | Hi, I have Debian setup with an encrypted LVM on 100 gig drive. I want to back it up and toss it onto a 1TB drive if i "dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/target/backup" can I just restore that image with "dd if=/path/to/target/backup of=/dev/sda" Then once everything works just resize with LVM. Will everything work okay? |
| 22:38.54 | windparadise | [Mon Sep 12 02:32:46 2011] [error] [client 41.218.252.232] File does not exist: /var/www/phpmyadmin |
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| 22:39.51 | streuner | windparadise: what does "dpkg -l phpadmin" say? |
| 22:40.01 | streuner | windparadise: what does "dpkg -l phpmyadmin" say? |
| 22:40.15 | streuner | windparadise: its installed fully or not? |
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| 22:40.24 | windparadise | it seems to be installed |
| 22:40.27 | windparadise | but let me check out again |
| 22:40.35 | streuner | so "ii"? |
| 22:40.38 | windparadise | it was installing before the internet connection went off |
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| 22:41.37 | streuner | windparadise: in doubt just run "apt-get install --reinstall phpmyadmin" |
| 22:42.23 | windparadise | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name version Description +++-================-================-================================================ ii phpmyadmin 4:3.3.7-6 MySQL web... |
| 22:42.25 | windparadise | ...administration tool root@storecomplex:~# |
| 22:42.54 | n0sq | i don't know what happened but my desktop is locked up - squeeze 64 bit - gnome |
| 22:42.57 | streuner | hm |
| 22:43.16 | wols_ | !tell rookie2030 about pm |
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| 22:43.57 | FredZ | I don't know anything about this, but can I collect/get the MAC address of a NIC and then use that address/variable in a sed statement to write to a file? |
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| 22:44.41 | streuner | windparadise: its installed, and phpmyadmin usually is very easy to use |
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| 22:44.57 | windparadise | ok |
| 22:45.11 | streuner | i dunno why you got 404 |
| 22:45.22 | windparadise | me ? |
| 22:45.32 | streuner | judd, versions phpmyadmin |
| 22:45.34 | judd | Package phpmyadmin on i386 -- lenny: 4:2.11.8.1-5+lenny7; lenny-proposed-updates: 4:2.11.8.1-5+lenny9; lenny-security: 4:2.11.8.1-5+lenny9; squeeze: 4:3.3.7-5; squeeze-security: 4:3.3.7-6; sid: 4:3.4.4-1; wheezy: 4:3.4.4-1 |
| 22:45.55 | windparadise | judd: I am using amd |
| 22:46.02 | windparadise | 64bit |
| 22:46.05 | streuner | judd, versions phpmyadmin --arch amd64 |
| 22:46.06 | judd | Package phpmyadmin on amd64 -- lenny: 4:2.11.8.1-5+lenny7; lenny-proposed-updates: 4:2.11.8.1-5+lenny9; lenny-security: 4:2.11.8.1-5+lenny9; squeeze: 4:3.3.7-5; squeeze-security: 4:3.3.7-6; sid: 4:3.4.4-1; wheezy: 4:3.4.4-1 |
| 22:46.13 | streuner | its the same |
| 22:46.22 | windparadise | oh, hooh, judd is a bot, |
| 22:46.55 | n0sq | even though the so called rescue mode from grub starts but doesn't complete - if i have to reinstall should i go to 32 bit? |
| 22:47.19 | streuner | windparadise: check out /usr/share/doc/<package>, it should describes HOW you access phpmyadmin |
| 22:47.31 | windparadise | ok |
| 22:48.03 | streuner | windparadise: i need to install about 70 MB in order to see whats going on... |
| 22:48.41 | windparadise | hmmm, mine was 92 MB I think |
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| 22:48.48 | windparadise | or less than that |
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| 23:04.30 | negger | how do I resize my swap partition? |
| 23:04.34 | negger | how do I resize my swap partition! |
| 23:04.52 | negger | err |
| 23:05.05 | negger | How do I resize my ext4 partition so I can make a swap partition, and what size should the swap partition be? |
| 23:05.09 | negger | !dpkg swap |
| 23:05.09 | dpkg | Swap is RAM you wish you had. Generally it is said that for low amounts of RAM (say, less than 2GB), you should have twice the RAM as swap. You don't have to have a swap partition either, as you can always create a <swap file> and use that. See also <am i swapping>. http://wiki.debian.org/Swap http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swap_space#Linux |
| 23:05.13 | dondelelcaro | negger: you don't need to do that |
| 23:05.15 | negger | !dpkg gparted |
| 23:05.15 | dpkg | GParted is the <GNOME> partition editor, which uses libparted (see <parted>) and other optional filesystem tools. Install the ntfsprogs package to enable <NTFS> support and the dosfstools package for FAT16/32 support. Consider a <debian-live> image and installing gparted (after boot) as an alternative to the GParted Live CD. http://gparted.sf.net/faq.php #gparted on irc.gnome.org. |
| 23:05.25 | dondelelcaro | negger: just create a swapfile on the ext4 partition |
| 23:05.39 | negger | I tried that, dondelelcaro, but swapon kept crashing |
| 23:05.44 | negger | I made /extraswap |
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| 23:05.58 | dondelelcaro | negger: how did you make the swapfile? |
| 23:06.15 | negger | using dd if=/dev/zero and specified the size |
| 23:08.07 | dondelelcaro | negger: and then what did you do? |
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| 23:09.22 | negger | I typed swapon /extraswap |
| 23:09.33 | negger | But I want a partition. |
| 23:09.37 | negger | I know I could just resize this one |
| 23:09.49 | dondelelcaro | negger: that won't work. You need to mkswapfs before you run swapon |
| 23:09.55 | negger | The problem is, finding information one how to resize an ext4 partition is hard |
| 23:10.03 | negger | that explains it |
| 23:10.12 | negger | I would still want a swap partition instead of a file |
| 23:10.20 | dondelelcaro | negger: then man resize2fs |
| 23:10.22 | streuner | sure |
| 23:11.28 | streuner | but, if you usually dont need swap at all, just as security, its senseless then |
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| 23:11.45 | streuner | s/senseless/useless/ |
| 23:12.05 | negger | I just typed resize2fs /dev/sda5 200M by mistake, then typed the same thing with 200G |
| 23:12.09 | negger | did I mess up my files? |
| 23:12.48 | dondelelcaro | negger: presumably |
| 23:13.00 | dondelelcaro | negger: but why are you asking us? check them out |
| 23:13.38 | dondelelcaro | (though in general, it should fail to resize instead of destroying files) |
| 23:14.08 | negger | that's what I believe happened |
| 23:15.26 | negger | I'm asking here because I had instructions that said I might have to backup all my files and it seemed to involve more steps than needed |
| 23:15.40 | negger | is there a utility like PArtition magic for linux or gparted that lets you edit and resave a new size? |
| 23:16.25 | dondelelcaro | negger: resize2fs modifies the filesystem, and it's the program which changes the size of the filesystem |
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| 23:17.12 | dondelelcaro | negger: the partition you can modify with anything you want. gparted can also call resize2fs and libparted to resize the underlying partitions |
| 23:18.24 | negger | I think I understand, I can't resize it while it is mounted |
| 23:18.34 | dondelelcaro | negger: you can in some cases |
| 23:18.39 | windparadise | streuner: its now working, :) |
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| 23:18.55 | streuner | dpkg, congratulate windparadise |
| 23:18.55 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies windparadise, you did it! |
| 23:19.06 | negger | giw tgeb dondelelcaro |
| 23:19.10 | negger | How then, dondelelcaro |
| 23:19.13 | windparadise | lol :D |
| 23:19.17 | negger | how do you resize while mounted |
| 23:19.18 | dondelelcaro | negger: with resize2fs |
| 23:19.19 | streuner | windparadise: good job, you're welcome |
| 23:19.32 | rhenani | Hello guys I have a question, how do i copy a cd audio using comand line on a debian squeeze machine version 6.02 |
| 23:19.53 | dondelelcaro | negger: in some cases you can't shrink, but you can grow ext3 and 4 filesystems online. |
| 23:19.55 | rhenani | like in windows xp you can do it using windows media player but in debian using comand line |
| 23:20.10 | windparadise | I am beginning to love my server, |
| 23:20.17 | negger | I'm not using all of my space... and just installed it |
| 23:20.21 | windparadise | btw, I am trying to create a new db, what will be the collation you suggest? |
| 23:20.27 | dondelelcaro | rhenani: use cdparanoia or one of many other things which rip, like ripit or similar |
| 23:20.46 | negger | is there a better burning program than xcdroast |
| 23:20.49 | negger | something that can overburn? |
| 23:21.08 | dondelelcaro | negger: wodim can overburn |
| 23:21.14 | streuner | (almost) every tool is nowadays to overburn |
| 23:21.19 | streuner | able* |
| 23:21.22 | negger | thanks |
| 23:21.40 | negger | Weird, it can't overburn for my computer's generic cd burner |
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| 23:22.43 | streuner | dpkg, info qpxtool |
| 23:22.45 | dondelelcaro | not every burner allows you to overburn, but usually you can using raw. read the manpage |
| 23:23.00 | dpkg | qpxtool: (CD/DVD quality checker), section otherosfs, is extra. Version: 0.7.1.002-5 (sid), Packaged size: 619 kB, Installed size: 1584 kB |
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| 23:23.48 | streuner | negger: just try what dpkg told you, it is able to verify what dondelelcaro said |
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| 23:27.25 | streuner | negger: qpxtool tells you about the details of your CD/DVD hardware |
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| 23:32.20 | streuner | DrDeeps: dont IRC as root, you arent able to talk here, just logout and login as <user> |
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| 23:37.20 | windparadise | hello is SFTP normally slower than FTP? |
| 23:37.53 | juhan | not appreciably |
| 23:37.53 | streuner | yes |
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| 23:38.05 | streuner | if you have the *right* hardware :-P |
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| 23:39.50 | sigmonsay | Can someone remind me of the package name to search package contents of uninstalled packages? |
| 23:40.09 | somiaj | apt-file or packages.debian.org |
| 23:40.24 | sigmonsay | Thanks, apt-file is it |
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| 23:41.20 | un214 | how do I turn off unicode on debian console (perminantly) |
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| 23:42.22 | fujin | yo if I use debconf-set-selections to preseed some values |
| 23:42.25 | fujin | anyway to knock those out? |
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| 23:44.04 | somiaj | un214: you can use a non-unicode character set, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 23:44.44 | somiaj | fujin: what do you mean knock them out? Make a new preseed? |
| 23:44.53 | fujin | yeah |
| 23:45.01 | fujin | I want to reset to "no preseed values set at all for a particular key" |
| 23:45.06 | fujin | that make sense? |
| 23:45.16 | somiaj | ok just checking. I don't mess with preseeds just wanted to clarify. (: |
| 23:45.22 | un214 | I'm looking for decgraphics and/or ibmgraphics |
| 23:45.25 | somiaj | not sure if it would be easier to make a new one or edit the current one. |
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| 23:45.51 | Xgamerz | hi |
| 23:46.36 | Xgamerz | i m trying to create file with gedit and i get prob of permission |
| 23:46.44 | Xgamerz | You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file |
| 23:47.00 | Xgamerz | in /var/www |
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| 23:48.18 | freeone3000 | So my bootloader refuses to install automatically. How can I force the netinstall cd to put grub on /dev/sdb? |
| 23:48.38 | rhenani | exit |
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| 23:51.01 | windparadise | how do we uninstall a pacckage via apt-get ? |
| 23:51.07 | Kre10s | I get the error: "default_host" parameter can be specified for the default "listen" directive only ... |
| 23:51.26 | dvs | windparadise: apt-get remove |
| 23:51.35 | windparadise | thx |
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| 23:51.43 | Kre10s | I thought that the listen directive is default because i mark it using default_host... |
| 23:51.58 | Kre10s | why does nginx complain? |
| 23:52.48 | negger | How do I use aptitude to install package lists from a file |
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| 23:54.49 | negger | Weird, it can't overburn for my computer's generic cd burner |
| 23:54.55 | negger | How do I use aptitude to install package lists from a file |
| 23:55.01 | dvs | negge: dpkg --set-selection |
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| 23:56.12 | dvs | --set-selections |
| 23:57.39 | negger | thanks |
| 23:58.03 | dvs | np |
| 23:58.41 | negger | I typed that, now what |
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| 23:59.54 | negger | it said "dpkg: unknown option --set-selection" |