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| 00:04.53 | bradhe | is there a way to tell dpkg to stick files in a folder in the user's home dir? For instance, when a package is installed, I want a settings file to go to ~/.my_app/settings.txt |
| 00:05.39 | rudi_s | bradhe: No. |
| 00:06.00 | bradhe | grr |
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| 00:06.15 | rudi_s | bradhe: Why do you want to do that? |
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| 00:06.24 | rudi_s | Configuration files belong in /etc. |
| 00:06.48 | bradhe | hmm i guess thats true |
| 00:08.31 | ner0x | find: paths must precede expression: Errors.pm Why do I get this when I use $( find -type f -iname *.pm ) |
| 00:08.40 | ner0x | Sometimes, but some times I do not. Any typical reasons? |
| 00:08.42 | rudi_s | ner0x: find . |
| 00:08.52 | ner0x | Is that really want messes it up?.. |
| 00:08.55 | ner0x | tries. |
| 00:09.03 | ner0x | No, same error. |
| 00:09.12 | rudi_s | ner0x: find . -type f -iname \*.pm |
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| 00:09.33 | rudi_s | (You don't need the ., but it's recommended as some system require it.) |
| 00:09.38 | rudi_s | The missing \ is the problem. |
| 00:09.57 | ner0x | rudi_s: Why is it being read like that? |
| 00:10.00 | rudi_s | Because the shell expands it and then you have something like -iname asdf.pm .. Errors.pm |
| 00:10.25 | ner0x | So it's including .. ? |
| 00:11.14 | rudi_s | ner0x: No. It's including all files ending with .pm in the current directory. |
| 00:11.31 | ner0x | That's what I wanted it to do? |
| 00:11.33 | rudi_s | Try echo find -type f -iname *.pm to see how it gets called (note the echo). |
| 00:11.44 | ner0x | Ah, I didn't think of using echo. |
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| 00:12.06 | rudi_s | ner0x: You want to search for all files which match one of the .pm files in your current directory? That won't work that way.) |
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| 00:12.25 | ner0x | I don't understand. |
| 00:12.35 | rudi_s | ner0x: What are you tryin to do? |
| 00:12.45 | rudi_s | Find all file names ending with .pm? |
| 00:12.51 | ner0x | correct. |
| 00:12.56 | ner0x | In the current directory and below. |
| 00:13.04 | ner0x | find . -type f -iname \*.pm works |
| 00:13.08 | rudi_s | ner0x: Then use find . -type -iname \*.pm |
| 00:13.21 | ner0x | I don't understahdy why find . -type f -iname *.pm doesn't though. |
| 00:13.23 | ner0x | That'll bother me. |
| 00:13.34 | rudi_s | ner0x: Try it with echo and you'll see. |
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| 00:13.49 | ner0x | I did, didn't give me much. |
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| 00:14.20 | rudi_s | -iname only takes a single argument, but you're giving it more than one. And you're no longer searching for '*.pm' but for the first *.pm file in your current directory - or if there's none for no file name at all. |
| 00:14.31 | ner0x | Ah! |
| 00:14.33 | ham5 | <3 abrotman |
| 00:14.35 | rudi_s | *.pm is expanded by the shell. |
| 00:14.37 | ner0x | Bash is expanding it. |
| 00:14.51 | ner0x | So I'm searing all of the files for a single file. |
| 00:14.54 | ner0x | Whichever gets there first. |
| 00:15.06 | ner0x | How does the regex work? like perl? |
| 00:15.11 | rudi_s | Well, not really. As find's errors out. |
| 00:15.15 | rudi_s | man find |
| 00:15.21 | rudi_s | -'s |
| 00:15.23 | ner0x | I read it. |
| 00:15.32 | ner0x | Never gives examples though. Tsk. |
| 00:15.35 | ner0x | looks again. |
| 00:15.44 | ner0x | rudi_s: I go to the docs first, always. |
| 00:16.35 | n0sq | how do you know if you have a 32 bit or 64 bit firefox release? i downloaded a tarball from a mozilla 64 bit tree but Help->About Firefox doesn't say that it's 64 bit |
| 00:16.49 | rudi_s | ner0x: man find | less -p ' -name' |
| 00:17.17 | ner0x | Even '*.pm' works. |
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| 00:17.33 | rudi_s | Of course. That's also escaped. |
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| 00:18.33 | ner0x | rudi_s: I appreciate the help. |
| 00:18.40 | rudi_s | np |
| 00:18.45 | ner0x | With vim, echo, sed, and find I feel like I can take over the world. :-) |
| 00:18.56 | rudi_s | :-) |
| 00:19.05 | ner0x | Crazy, I've been on linux for over a decade but never reall delved into sed or find. |
| 00:19.25 | mircob | Hi, I have a strange problem with a newly setup debian server. The ethernet port seems to loose its connection every couple of min, but the connection between host and switch is stable. Can someone help me to debug that. i am not used to debian. |
| 00:19.53 | operaor | hi, well I set a debian mirror, and I added "security packages" to mirror.list |
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| 00:20.15 | operaor | but no way I can use my own local security repo in my apt sources.list |
| 00:20.17 | orftz | Hello folks. I'm working on a new game and for it we're aiming for a Linux-compatible client. It's all very early but maybe it'll interest you: http://voxlr.net/ :) |
| 00:20.35 | operaor | the other are working fine, u know... main, contrib, non-free |
| 00:20.39 | joeoshawa | mircob, i would suggest first making sure you don't have a bad cat5e wire |
| 00:20.57 | operaor | but with the "security" part, I don't know what line to add to my sources.list. |
| 00:21.08 | joeoshawa | i have delt with 4 machines in 2 weeks with that problem and that is what it was |
| 00:21.18 | mircob | I am sure of that. switched the cables and ports and checked them with other hosts. |
| 00:21.52 | joeoshawa | and its not a bad card on either end? |
| 00:22.34 | mircob | In the Messages log I get constantly every 3min and 14 to 20 sec r8169: eth0: link up |
| 00:23.18 | joeoshawa | sounds like you have a hardware conflict |
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| 00:23.38 | joeoshawa | i am not an expert by any means tho |
| 00:23.40 | mircob | how can I track it down |
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| 00:24.07 | mircob | I am using a fairly new main board and the internal ethernet port. No spare card avail. |
| 00:24.08 | joeoshawa | the port is onboard?\ |
| 00:24.18 | joeoshawa | damn |
| 00:24.34 | joeoshawa | what board |
| 00:24.44 | mircob | GIGABYTE GA-A75-D3H |
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| 00:25.09 | mircob | Realtek RTL8111E chip on board |
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| 00:28.43 | leo-unglaub | hi friends, alter a resize of a virtualbox image a the /boot partition of my debian server is cimplete empty. how can i repair this withour reinstalling the complete system? |
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| 00:31.19 | joeoshawa | wish i could help but thats out of my league hopefully someone else can help mircob sorry |
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| 00:31.59 | joeoshawa | tried to see if someone else had the same trouble but all i found was sound and video problems no ethernet |
| 00:32.03 | joeoshawa | issues |
| 00:32.09 | josephseraos | hi everybody. I would like to know how to change console resolution |
| 00:32.11 | josephseraos | please |
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| 00:32.28 | mircob | Mhh i just found some driver on the realtek site. Starting my first text adventure with the title "Make your own driver" |
| 00:33.47 | debiantonio | mircob, look this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/realtek-semiconductor-co-ltd-rtl8111-8168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-683656/page2.html |
| 00:33.53 | debiantonio | ups |
| 00:34.37 | mircob | @debiantonion thank you |
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| 00:37.39 | c4pt | hello i am having a problem i was wondering if anyone could help me or give me advice i accidentally touched the permissions in / in terminal by accident i thought i was in my home dir and i ran chown -R 0:0 * |
| 00:37.55 | c4pt | after about 2 minutes i realized i was in root and i hit crtl-C to stop this |
| 00:37.56 | c4pt | er |
| 00:37.58 | c4pt | my mistake |
| 00:38.28 | c4pt | i typed chown -R c4pt:c4pt in / in terminal and after a minute or two i realized i was in the wrong directory so i tried to run chown -R 0:0 * to try and fix the problem |
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| 00:39.00 | c4pt | i was wondering is there a bash script around anywhere that can reset all the / permissions back to the way they are supposed to be for debian for system files ? |
| 00:39.29 | c4pt | similar to the way mac os x has repairpermissions in disk utility to set all the permissions back to the way they are supposed to be ? |
| 00:39.30 | josephseraos | hi everybody. I would like to know how to change console resolution, please |
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| 00:39.52 | debiantonio | mircob, :) |
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| 00:43.16 | mircob | @debiantonio, thank you very much, that seems to have done the trick :-) |
| 00:44.09 | c4pt | i basically have this similar problem http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/repair-permissions-installed-deb-package-355052/ |
| 00:44.37 | c4pt | is there a way to install without formatting and without having to delete anything ? i have over 4tb of data that would take me alot of time to re migrate? |
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| 00:49.09 | joeoshawa | c4pt, your installing linux over a current linux install |
| 00:49.23 | c4pt | joeoshawa, no i made a mistake with chown in / |
| 00:49.29 | c4pt | joeoshawa, recursively |
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| 00:50.18 | joeoshawa | with what directory |
| 00:50.21 | debiantonio | mircob, linuxquestion. org fine source for many questions |
| 00:51.19 | debiantonio | www.linuxquestions.org |
| 00:51.19 | joeoshawa | c4pt, is everything in that directory need to have the same ownership/permissions? |
| 00:51.46 | joeoshawa | does |
| 00:51.54 | c4pt | joeoshawa, well thats the problem i ran chown -R c4pt:c4pt in / by mistake i thought i was one level in ; in /home |
| 00:52.22 | joeoshawa | wow |
| 00:52.27 | joeoshawa | umm.... |
| 00:53.15 | joeoshawa | c4pt, is your home directory on a separate partition from / |
| 00:53.47 | c4pt | joeoshawa, im talking in #ubuntu also i think i am going to do this since it looks like i have to reinstall i am going to run gparted and resize my 8tb lvm and move /home into its own partition and reinstall |
| 00:54.15 | c4pt | joeoshawa, no thats the problem i should have ran /home with debian install i just used the lvm partitioning i figured it would be ok in the lvm |
| 00:54.23 | joeoshawa | yeah it should work then |
| 00:54.41 | joeoshawa | as long as you don't format /home you should be fine |
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| 00:55.37 | gnarface | ,versions ejabberd |
| 00:55.38 | judd | Package ejabberd on i386 -- lenny: 2.0.1-6+lenny2; lenny-proposed-updates: 2.0.1-6+lenny3; lenny-security: 2.0.1-6+lenny3; squeeze: 2.1.5-3; lenny-backports: 2.1.5-3+squeeze1~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 2.1.5-3+squeeze1; wheezy: 2.1.6-2.1; sid: 2.1.8-1 |
| 00:55.44 | gnarface | ,versions erlang |
| 00:55.45 | judd | Package erlang on i386 -- lenny: 1:12.b.3-dfsg-4; squeeze: 1:14.a-dfsg-3; sid: 1:14.b.3-dfsg-2; wheezy: 1:14.b.3-dfsg-2 |
| 00:56.17 | joeoshawa | that's why i always put /home in its own partition so if i need/want to reinstall all my data is safe |
| 00:56.36 | joeoshawa | do that with windows |
| 00:57.10 | joeoshawa | most of the time with windows you can't even reinstall cause it came with the computer |
| 00:57.54 | c4pt | joeoshawa, so what do you think on an 8tb lvm / should have 1tb ? and /root and /home should have 7tb ? |
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| 00:59.02 | joeoshawa | can't see you ever needing that much for / but hey if you have the space go for it |
| 01:00.09 | joeoshawa | by the time your main install has a space issue the computer will be in a museum lol |
| 01:00.23 | ksx4system | what exact app could listen on port 5000? |
| 01:00.45 | joeoshawa | any |
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| 01:01.15 | ksx4system | joeoshawa: well... i know that any. but i didn't set anything to use that port |
| 01:01.27 | ksx4system | default Debian template from my VPS provider has this |
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| 01:01.56 | joeoshawa | do you have a bittorrent client running |
| 01:02.02 | joeoshawa | could be it |
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| 01:02.57 | ksx4system | joeoshawa: i don't have one. i can provide "dpkg --get-selections" output as a proof |
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| 01:04.13 | ksx4system | ps ax shows only apps I do know too (sshd, lighttpd, php, cron, syslog-ng and prosody Jabber server) |
| 01:04.31 | ksx4system | oh, and MariaDB's process |
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| 01:08.08 | joeoshawa | try this "lsof -i :5000 |
| 01:08.16 | joeoshawa | ksx4system, |
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| 01:17.43 | ksx4system | joeoshawa: thank you, it was something related with Prosody. |
| 01:19.15 | johntramp | tvm: rudi_s: sorry for not getting back to you before. thanks for the advice, i will try echo/read |
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| 01:35.31 | ham5 | OS: Linux version 3.0.1h5l (Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid) |
| 01:35.32 | bambanx | any way to control the fans on my notebook? |
| 01:36.13 | ham5 | fancontrol is a shell script for use with lm_sensors. It reads its configuration from a file, then calculates fan speeds from temperatures and sets the corresponding PWM outputs to the computed values. |
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| 01:37.04 | bambanx | ham5, i am new on linux you have a tutorail or some? |
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| 01:37.28 | ham5 | well, google.... |
| 01:37.56 | ham5 | http://linux.die.net/man/8/fancontrol |
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| 01:40.23 | DebianUserMark | hi guys i'm trying to comile wine 1.3.28 in squeeze and i get this error configure: error: FreeType 32-bit development files not found. Fonts will not be built. how can i fix this? |
| 01:40.28 | bambanx | thanks ham5 |
| 01:41.03 | ham5 | you have libfreetype6-dev installed DebianUserMark ? |
| 01:41.07 | ro0t | guys, i lost my apache2 init.d script :/ any idea how i can get it back? |
| 01:41.15 | ham5 | other then that nothing, dont worrie no problems |
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| 01:41.25 | ham5 | reinstall apache2 ? |
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| 01:41.43 | ro0t | ham5, that did't solve the problem :/ |
| 01:41.43 | ham5 | 'lost it' ;\ |
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| 01:41.54 | ro0t | :) |
| 01:41.55 | DebianUserMark | yes ham5 |
| 01:42.11 | ham5 | no worries DebianUserMark fonts work fine |
| 01:42.16 | ro0t | ham5, actually i deleted by rm -rf to be honest :) |
| 01:42.21 | ro0t | for some reasons |
| 01:42.37 | ro0t | ham5, any idea about how to get it back? |
| 01:42.38 | DebianUserMark | okay thanks ham5 ill tell you guys any more errors |
| 01:42.44 | ham5 | good thinking ro0t, um, i could send you mine or pastebind it? |
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| 01:42.58 | ro0t | ham5, squeeze? |
| 01:43.29 | ham5 | ro0t; http://pastebin.com/g7hp5nDH |
| 01:43.31 | ro0t | ham5, if so, go for it, i just want to know how to get it back by the apt-get thing |
| 01:43.56 | ham5 | reinstalling the package i dont know why that wouldent work |
| 01:44.06 | ro0t | ham5, me too :/ |
| 01:44.24 | ro0t | i tried to purge/remove/install the whole stuff |
| 01:44.33 | ham5 | all that for the init file |
| 01:44.33 | ro0t | apache2-utils...etc |
| 01:44.34 | ham5 | ha |
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| 01:44.52 | ham5 | creat new paste there you go |
| 01:44.57 | ro0t | ham5, :P , or that for the script file |
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| 01:45.27 | ham5 | no more rm -rf k |
| 01:45.39 | cast | so umm, having forgotten my eeepc's bios password, i'm wondering if there's a way to turn on the wifi. ifconfig wlan0 up is erroring :( |
| 01:45.39 | ro0t | :D |
| 01:46.12 | ham5 | eeepc have a reset bios jumper on the board perhaps? |
| 01:46.17 | ro0t | ham5, but it still wondering actually, if you know what i mean |
| 01:46.53 | ham5 | sorry ro0t dont even make sence to me quit rm stuff |
| 01:47.24 | ro0t | ham5, i mean why the reinstallation did't back that script |
| 01:47.41 | ham5 | i know what you mean, and i dont know. |
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| 01:50.02 | lduros | hello, i've use: nohup python myscript.py & |
| 01:50.10 | lduros | how can I bring this back to the front? |
| 01:50.16 | lduros | foreground, I mean? |
| 01:50.17 | lduros | :-) |
| 01:50.59 | ro0t | lduros, kill it, slaughter it, and then lunch it normally :) |
| 01:51.06 | alfplayer | lduros: do you want to see your script's output? |
| 01:51.25 | alfplayer | there should be a file nohup.out |
| 01:51.28 | lduros | alfplayer: yes, like when I run someting in the foreground. I see there's a file nohup.out |
| 01:51.43 | lduros | alfplayer: but there's no way to bring it back to the foreground without killing it? |
| 01:51.49 | alfplayer | you can do tail -f nohup.out |
| 01:52.18 | lduros | alfplayer: when I do tail -f nohup.out it looks like the end of the last output is truncate |
| 01:52.18 | lduros | d |
| 01:52.24 | alfplayer | well, you're bringing the output to the foregroung like that |
| 01:52.29 | lduros | ok |
| 01:52.31 | ro0t | lduros, you meant switching between back/foreground? |
| 01:52.40 | lduros | ro0t: right, like using fg |
| 01:52.58 | alfplayer | i don't know of it's possible to reattach it to the terminal, if that's what you want |
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| 01:54.15 | lduros | alfplayer: yeh, but it's ok, i can still look at nohup.out but it doesn't seem to write stuff instantaneously for some reason |
| 01:54.28 | alfplayer | no? it should |
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| 01:55.13 | alfplayer | maybe the load is to high on your system? |
| 01:55.44 | lduros | when i do "top" i don't even see it running, only when I do ps aux | grep python I see it there |
| 01:56.24 | joeoshawa | does anyone here use quicken style financial software |
| 01:57.42 | alfplayer | lduros: maybe it's too low on the screen to see it, you can try htop |
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| 01:59.32 | tyn | Hey, I'm trying to create a humongous file for the lulz, but even on xfs I can't get more than ~16TB, what gives? |
| 01:59.55 | ham5 | what gives is the lulz sucks for you |
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| 02:01.03 | tyn | ...Still should be able to do it :( |
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| 02:01.44 | ham5 | block size? |
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| 02:05.18 | tyn | bsize=4096 blocks=524288, imaxpct=25 |
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| 02:07.35 | ham5 | 64bi os your right |
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| 02:07.58 | ham5 | screw xfs |
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| 02:08.06 | ro0t | ham5, thanks man, g night |
| 02:08.12 | ham5 | night |
| 02:08.30 | ro0t | ham5, btw, i just got it by the apt-get ;) |
| 02:09.02 | ro0t | the problem was that i should purge all things, apache2-utils, apache2.2-common....mpm-worker...etc |
| 02:09.19 | ro0t | and do apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc as usual |
| 02:09.44 | ro0t | it told me that you have apache2 script and gave me some options to act |
| 02:09.52 | ro0t | anyway, thanks again |
| 02:09.55 | ro0t | Ciao |
| 02:10.26 | tyn | I wonder if btrfs will let me... |
| 02:11.39 | ham5 | sounds lame for lulz |
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| 02:16.27 | poincare101 | Hello everyone. I just wrote my self a simple echo server in C, and I'm trying to connect to it, and I can't. How can I see what ports are currently bind()ed on my system? |
| 02:16.48 | ham5 | binded? netstat... |
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| 02:17.07 | dvs | poincare101: lsof? |
| 02:18.17 | tyn | Even btrfs denies me... |
| 02:18.20 | poincare101 | thanks |
| 02:18.37 | ham5 | denied |
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| 02:25.47 | paulfm | evening all |
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| 02:26.28 | paulfm | can any kind soul have pity on me and offer some mysql/php debugging advice⦠Im about to pass outâ¦been working on this for days |
| 02:27.08 | paulfm | php connects to mysql for like 20 second blocksâ¦. and then can't connect for another period of time.. also 10-30 second blocks |
| 02:27.30 | ham5 | only can suggest iptables? |
| 02:27.32 | infernix | paulfm: tcp or socket? |
| 02:27.44 | paulfm | infernix - socket⦠on lan |
| 02:27.52 | infernix | ehh |
| 02:27.58 | paulfm | ineiros: I mean tcp |
| 02:28.01 | paulfm | sorry |
| 02:28.16 | infernix | tried wireshark? |
| 02:28.18 | paulfm | Im not kidding.. Im brain dead at the moment |
| 02:28.40 | cafuego | paulfm: Have you looked at the mysql logs? in /var/log/syslog |
| 02:28.42 | infernix | did you strace the php code? run some test code with commandline php |
| 02:28.43 | paulfm | infer nixâ¦. I haven't⦠Im on squeeze with no desktop though |
| 02:28.48 | paulfm | no errors in syslog |
| 02:28.57 | infernix | well you can use tshark |
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| 02:29.08 | paulfm | shark?⦠is it cli? |
| 02:29.09 | infernix | text version of wireshark |
| 02:29.12 | paulfm | aha |
| 02:29.13 | paulfm | nice |
| 02:29.15 | infernix | apt-get install tshark |
| 02:29.23 | paulfm | so.. uhmm.. what do I look for? |
| 02:29.30 | infernix | network errors |
| 02:29.45 | paulfm | Its so frustratingâ¦. |
| 02:29.45 | infernix | to see if it connects at all |
| 02:29.57 | cafuego | paulfm: Check 'SHOW FULL PROCESSLIST' in a mysql console (as root) during such a hang. |
| 02:30.05 | cafuego | paulfm: ...see if it's doing anything odd. |
| 02:30.11 | infernix | stracing a *very simple* php commandline script that connects to mysql works too |
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| 02:30.20 | paulfm | cafuego: I've been watching that but can see anything odd |
| 02:30.25 | cafuego | paulfm: Alternatively, telnet to port 3306 |
| 02:30.34 | cafuego | paulfm: does it connect or does it hang. |
| 02:30.38 | zach23 | I noticed on squeeze a security fix for openssl came out but not for apache - is this okay? |
| 02:30.39 | paulfm | infernix: thats a php connection tracer? |
| 02:30.46 | infernix | paulfm: no strace is a system call tracer |
| 02:30.55 | paulfm | cafuego: when I telnet? |
| 02:30.58 | cafuego | zach23: Yes, it revoked a few ssl certs |
| 02:31.01 | cafuego | paulfm: yeh |
| 02:31.04 | paulfm | ill try |
| 02:31.04 | infernix | i'm mostly pointing out analysis methods that assume mysql itself is fine |
| 02:31.09 | cafuego | paulfm: if it conencts right away, it's not the network |
| 02:31.12 | paulfm | infernix: Imma install it |
| 02:31.16 | zach23 | cafuego: so I don't have to worry about apache then? |
| 02:31.20 | cafuego | zach23: nope |
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| 02:31.29 | cafuego | zach23: Well, no more than usual :-) |
| 02:31.30 | zach23 | cafuego: I mean apache not being upgraded - but isn't mod_ssl built on those libs? |
| 02:31.38 | paulfm | cafuego: even when php fails to connect I can ping fine |
| 02:31.40 | cafuego | zach23: The libs didn't change |
| 02:31.59 | infernix | paulfm: use telnet as suggested, ping says nothing |
| 02:32.00 | paulfm | indefnix: thanks⦠man⦠please god I hope you just saved me.. |
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| 02:32.17 | paulfm | ok trying⦠THANKS infernix & cafuego |
| 02:32.23 | infernix | you first need to localise the problem, whether it's mysql, php or the network |
| 02:32.49 | somiaj | you did check the mysql and apahce logs for either mysql or php errors? |
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| 02:33.24 | zach23 | cafuego: ahh thank you |
| 02:33.30 | paulfm | so sometimes I get this: |
| 02:33.31 | paulfm | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Cannot assign requested address |
| 02:33.49 | paulfm | cafuego: looks like sometimes telnet works and sometimes not |
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| 02:34.13 | paulfm | ineiros: telnet only connects sometimes?⦠weird |
| 02:34.28 | paulfm | why would telnet only connect sometimes? |
| 02:34.36 | cafuego | paulfm: network problem |
| 02:34.39 | paulfm | def looks like network |
| 02:34.43 | paulfm | cafuego: yeah |
| 02:34.47 | paulfm | hrmm... |
| 02:34.50 | paulfm | whats that mean |
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| 02:35.01 | cafuego | paulfm: Is there *any* chance the sql server box is low on sockets? |
| 02:35.16 | cafuego | paulfm: are you connection via IP or via name? |
| 02:35.19 | paulfm | cafuego: how do I tell?â¦. like open file descriptors? |
| 02:35.25 | infernix | Cannot assign requested address? |
| 02:35.25 | cafuego | paulfm: yeh |
| 02:35.28 | paulfm | cafuego: name⦠let me try ip |
| 02:35.34 | infernix | thats an odd one |
| 02:35.42 | paulfm | cafuego: mysqltuner says open files if fine⦠|
| 02:35.58 | cafuego | paulfm: I decline to comment about mysqltuner. |
| 02:36.12 | paulfm | heh |
| 02:36.14 | paulfm | really |
| 02:36.15 | paulfm | uh oh |
| 02:36.26 | paulfm | cafuego: so connecting with ip has same effect |
| 02:36.27 | cafuego | Suffice to say software is not smart. And it's software. |
| 02:36.34 | paulfm | telnet doesn't always connect |
| 02:36.44 | paulfm | cafuego: yes indeed |
| 02:36.52 | cafuego | paulfm: is there a rate limiting firewall? |
| 02:36.55 | infernix | paulfm: what is the output of "netstat -nap | wc -l" on either boxes? |
| 02:37.04 | cafuego | paulfm: or portmapper? |
| 02:37.18 | paulfm | cafuego: portmapper? |
| 02:37.25 | paulfm | cafuego: I think I saw it runing |
| 02:37.31 | paulfm | infernix: thanks trying |
| 02:37.38 | cafuego | paulfm: It'll be running, but does it have any cfg in /etc/hosts.* ? |
| 02:38.08 | paulfm | cafuego: none that I've added?⦠checking |
| 02:38.20 | paulfm | infernix: client 37605 |
| 02:38.28 | cafuego | paulfm: if you ping -c 100 the mysql IP, does it drop packets? |
| 02:38.33 | infernix | woah |
| 02:38.33 | zach23 | cafuego: is there a page i can go to that summarized the upgrades to a package instead of hunting down the changelog of each package? |
| 02:38.46 | infernix | 37k? that's a busy box |
| 02:38.47 | cafuego | zach23: apt-listchanges does that for you |
| 02:38.54 | paulfm | infernix: server182 |
| 02:39.11 | paulfm | infernix: whats that number? |
| 02:39.25 | zach23 | cafuego: thank you :) |
| 02:39.32 | paulfm | infernix: its busy but only like 25% of cpu |
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| 02:40.28 | paulfm | infernix: whats the 37k mean? |
| 02:40.30 | infernix | just guessing but i think the box where your php runs could be out of open files which will make the system reject a new tcp connection from time to time |
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| 02:40.50 | cafuego | paulfm: Number of open sockets. However, that also includes local ones. |
| 02:40.58 | paulfm | iwhoa |
| 02:41.17 | paulfm | infer â¦. how do I see open file limit⦠ulimit?.. |
| 02:41.22 | infernix | ulimit -a |
| 02:41.27 | infernix | as the user that runs your php stuff |
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| 02:41.40 | infernix | you change the limits in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 02:41.43 | paulfm | checking |
| 02:41.43 | cafuego | paulfm: *if* it is a number-of-sockets issue, can you check whether PHP is set to allow persistent connections to mysql? And turn that shit off. |
| 02:42.04 | paulfm | cafuego: no dropped packeds ping -c 100 |
| 02:42.23 | cafuego | paulfm: so physical net is ok. |
| 02:42.24 | infernix | nah its prolly a socket limit on client side, doesn't look like a real network problem |
| 02:42.35 | paulfm | cafuego: where do I set persistent in php⦠I think it might be set as mysql says low connections |
| 02:42.41 | infernix | Cannot assign requested address is not a network error |
| 02:42.43 | paulfm | trying ulimit |
| 02:43.00 | paulfm | frick! |
| 02:43.02 | paulfm | 1024 |
| 02:43.07 | cafuego | paulfm: that's in php.ini - mysql.allow_persistent |
| 02:43.12 | cafuego | paulfm: set that to No |
| 02:43.46 | infernix | fwiw, sometimes persistent connections is better |
| 02:43.47 | paulfm | trying limit -n 10000 |
| 02:43.54 | infernix | but it really depends on the code |
| 02:44.06 | infernix | paulfm: won't fix it, you need to change it in limits.conf |
| 02:44.08 | paulfm | really.. I wasn't sure about that.. I read somewhere to leave them on but give them a really short timeout |
| 02:44.16 | paulfm | infernix: 10-4 |
| 02:44.21 | infernix | then stop the webserver |
| 02:44.28 | infernix | prolly logout, login, start the webserver |
| 02:44.46 | infernix | and then check the ulimit, which is best checked from within some php code |
| 02:44.56 | paulfm | infernix: do I need to set the limits for root? www-data .. the apache user?⦠or something else? |
| 02:45.05 | infernix | e.g. <?php exec('ulimit -a') ?> or somesuch |
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| 02:45.11 | infernix | paulfm: the user that runs the php code |
| 02:45.21 | infernix | this depends on how you're set up |
| 02:45.32 | infernix | with regular apache+php as a module, www-data |
| 02:45.40 | paulfm | hrmm⦠how can I find this⦠Im pretty sure its www-data |
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| 02:45.47 | paulfm | yeah |
| 02:45.59 | infernix | paulfm: by running some php code with <?php exec('whoami'); ?> |
| 02:46.06 | infernix | or system() or whichever it is |
| 02:46.29 | paulfm | do I need to st for hard & soft? |
| 02:46.38 | paulfm | infernix: ok |
| 02:46.53 | infernix | iirc it doesn'thave soft or hard |
| 02:47.14 | infernix | so just "www-data - nofile 10000" |
| 02:47.20 | simonlnu | limits.conf does yes |
| 02:47.32 | infernix | yah but for nofile? didnt think so |
| 02:47.46 | paulfm | infernix: so do I use a dash like that? |
| 02:47.48 | simonlnu | that's different =) |
| 02:48.00 | infernix | try paul |
| 02:48.04 | infernix | won't break it |
| 02:48.05 | simonlnu | (and hi) |
| 02:48.23 | paulfm | done |
| 02:48.34 | paulfm | haha |
| 02:48.43 | infernix | and remember, when changing limits.conf, stop webserver, log out, log in, start webserver, and finally check with some php code, not just su |
| 02:48.45 | paulfm | do I need to reboot? |
| 02:48.51 | paulfm | 10-4 |
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| 02:48.58 | ham5 | roger that |
| 02:48.58 | cafuego | paulfm: Nobody ever needs to reboot |
| 02:49.10 | ham5 | new kenel no reboot huh |
| 02:49.13 | infernix | well changing limits is always a bit of a pain |
| 02:49.19 | cafuego | ham5: kexec ftw. no reboot. |
| 02:49.29 | ham5 | ;} |
| 02:49.39 | paulfm | infernix: hrmm.. still says 1024 limit -a |
| 02:49.51 | infernix | then add www-data hard nofile 1000 |
| 02:49.53 | infernix | *10000 |
| 02:49.54 | infernix | and soft too |
| 02:49.57 | infernix | and try again |
| 02:50.02 | paulfm | ok |
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| 02:51.21 | paulfm | hrmm⦠1024 still |
| 02:51.24 | paulfm | bugger |
| 02:51.29 | paulfm | Imm try reboot |
| 02:51.40 | paulfm | unless I should try something else? |
| 02:51.46 | infernix | shrugs |
| 02:51.49 | paulfm | I have hard & soft in limits.conf |
| 02:51.52 | bambanx | guys how i can do for edit files on my debian , and upload on ftp, i mean have a folder and edit files in this folder and when i want upload and sync wih the files of my server ?sorry for my english :) |
| 02:52.03 | paulfm | rebooting |
| 02:52.07 | infernix | i tend to go yao ming on that shit and reboot it |
| 02:52.12 | infernix | usually does it |
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| 02:53.02 | infernix | the alternative could be just editing apache init script and adding a ulimit -n 10000 there |
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| 02:53.06 | infernix | but it's not as clean |
| 02:53.21 | paulfm | ahaa.. |
| 02:53.26 | paulfm | not a bad idea |
| 02:53.34 | paulfm | lets hope the box comes back to life |
| 02:54.10 | paulfm | I used to set open files in proc/sys/file-max or something right? |
| 02:54.14 | paulfm | does that still work? |
| 02:54.37 | cafuego | paulfm: yes |
| 02:54.56 | paulfm | hmm⦠will limit override that? |
| 02:55.09 | paulfm | *wondering where box is* |
| 02:55.15 | cafuego | sysctl fs.file-max |
| 02:55.38 | cafuego | paulfm: Yes, the proc number is system wide, limits is per-user (or group) |
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| 02:55.52 | paulfm | cafuego: yeah⦠thats where I used to set it⦠but notice on squeeze that even when I set it tehere I was seeing another number like 1054000â¦something? |
| 02:55.53 | infernix | fs.file-max doesn't affect the user limit though |
| 02:55.58 | paulfm | where does that come from? |
| 02:56.02 | bambanx | anyone can share with me a system for use ftp on local edit ? |
| 02:56.05 | infernix | so it's not helpful in your case |
| 02:56.34 | cafuego | FTP is only the answer to "What should I not use." |
| 02:56.35 | joeoshawa | i reboot after kernel updates i figure i could go about figuring out the update the kernel on the fly thing but i find my computer just runs better after a reboot |
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| 02:56.39 | paulfm | infernix: there i wow⦠after reboot⦠still 1024 |
| 02:56.46 | paulfm | what did I do wrong? |
| 02:57.14 | paulfm | I have this in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 02:57.15 | paulfm | www-data hard nofiles 65535 |
| 02:57.15 | paulfm | www-data soft nofiles 65535 |
| 02:57.43 | infernix | paulfm: see that's always my gripe with this shit |
| 02:57.55 | paulfm | huh? |
| 02:57.59 | infernix | add a ulimit -n 10000 to the apache init script |
| 02:58.08 | infernix | then stop and start it, and test |
| 02:58.17 | paulfm | ok⦠looking in init |
| 02:58.37 | infernix | i always have to fight to get these limits set proper |
| 02:59.38 | paulfm | yeah Ive struggled also.. |
| 02:59.43 | paulfm | don't seem to take |
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| 02:59.54 | infernix | paulfm: ok here's what i have working on one box |
| 03:00.08 | infernix | *hardnofile20000 |
| 03:00.18 | infernix | and another for soft |
| 03:00.37 | infernix | apache init script: ulimit -H -n 20000 and ulimit -n 20000 |
| 03:01.01 | infernix | if that doesn't make it work, i'm out of ideas |
| 03:01.05 | paulfm | infernix: are the 1st 2 lines in limits.conf? |
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| 03:01.15 | paulfm | struggling with the apache script. |
| 03:01.19 | infernix | yeah * just means apply the limit to all users |
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| 03:01.48 | paulfm | ahaa |
| 03:01.50 | paulfm | nice |
| 03:01.59 | paulfm | in apache init script I see the start section.. |
| 03:02.05 | infernix | in /etc/init.d/apache2 just add those ulimit commands below the END INIT INFO line |
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| 03:02.29 | paulfm | aha⦠ok |
| 03:02.56 | infernix | and you might want to dpkg-divert that init script to make sure it doesn't get overwritten on the next apache2 package upgrade |
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| 03:03.44 | un214 | I did dpkg-divert on init once |
| 03:04.12 | paulfm | omg.. still 1024⦠I added them just to the top of the init script... |
| 03:05.00 | paulfm | I made a mistake |
| 03:05.12 | infernix | the limits.conf stuff will need a stop, logout, login, start (or a reboot) |
| 03:05.20 | paulfm | my ulimt lines said: www-data no files 20000 |
| 03:05.26 | paulfm | nofile(S)!!!! |
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| 03:05.29 | infernix | no files?:) |
| 03:05.42 | paulfm | dduuuuuudddddeeeeee |
| 03:06.01 | un214 | my ulimit says unlimited |
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| 03:06.53 | paulfm | hrmm.. logging out stopping, logging back in startin.. no bieno 1024 |
| 03:07.41 | paulfm | infernix: is there any way to check apache was launched with new args from init script? |
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| 03:08.43 | infernix | paulfm: http://pastebin.com/JJP37rpc |
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| 03:09.18 | infernix | that's what's worked for me. if it doesn't for you, i'm out of ideas. someone who has a better idea on ulimit enforcement will have to step in |
| 03:09.22 | paulfm | nice!!! |
| 03:09.27 | infernix | it's always been a mystery for me |
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| 03:09.39 | paulfm | yeah me too⦠Im sure it will work |
| 03:09.43 | paulfm | rtryin a reboot |
| 03:09.49 | paulfm | thanks for the settings.. super rad |
| 03:09.52 | bambanx | guys what is better of ftp for upload html css php ... ? in my debian |
| 03:10.03 | infernix | babilen: vsftpd |
| 03:10.19 | infernix | err, bambanx |
| 03:10.23 | bambanx | lol |
| 03:10.30 | bambanx | infernix, why is better bro? |
| 03:10.37 | bambanx | infernix, mor faster? |
| 03:10.56 | infernix | it's pro bro |
| 03:11.01 | paulfm | *copying & pasting* |
| 03:11.04 | bambanx | hhaha |
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| 03:11.20 | infernix | actually i tested ftpd speeds some years ago and vsftpd came out ahead |
| 03:11.24 | bambanx | infernix, why bro is pro and better than ftp |
| 03:11.34 | bambanx | and curlftpfs? |
| 03:11.41 | infernix | what? |
| 03:12.01 | infernix | no idea |
| 03:12.19 | infernix | thats a client. for client i use ncftp |
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| 03:15.04 | paulfm | interesting |
| 03:15.38 | paulfm | no changes to the limits.conf showed any change in the ulimit -a output |
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| 03:16.02 | cafuego | bambanx: Doesn't your provider have ssh access? |
| 03:16.03 | paulfm | but when I did ulimit -n 65535, limit -a showed 65535 |
| 03:16.18 | paulfm | then I logged out and logged back in and limit -a dais 20000 |
| 03:16.28 | paulfm | which is what was set in my limits.conf file |
| 03:16.29 | bambanx | cafuego, i am not sure |
| 03:16.38 | paulfm | said 20000 |
| 03:16.44 | paulfm | something aint right with that |
| 03:16.57 | paulfm | seeing what is says after a reboot |
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| 03:17.31 | paulfm | then I need to see if I can telnet without a hitch ⦠boy would that be great |
| 03:17.43 | gawen | how can I disable the 'non-breaking space' once and for all ? |
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| 03:20.26 | paulfm | infernix: what was the netstat command⦠and the php trace script?â¦. myscrollback wasn't long enough |
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| 03:21.44 | infernix | paulfm: netstat -nap | wc -l, but you can probably better use lsof -u www-data | wc -l |
| 03:22.19 | paulfm | has⦠yeah.. played with lsof -i a little before⦠so netstat command shows open sockets? |
| 03:22.29 | paulfm | infernix: thank you yo! |
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| 03:24.33 | infernix | its 5am here and i'm done with my work for tonight so i'm off, good luck. i'm pretty sure you're on the right path :) |
| 03:25.10 | resus | hi does anyone know the command that's like which but searches more locations? |
| 03:25.32 | resus | flew out of my head |
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| 03:26.30 | alfplayer | resus: where? |
| 03:26.55 | nplus | Hi, I'm running squeeze on my laptop and I noticed that it shuts down really quickly (within 5-10 seconds). Is that normal how can I check for any errors during shutdown? |
| 03:26.58 | resus | alfplayer, what? |
| 03:27.19 | paulfm | manâ¦.. after all that⦠still intermittent telnet |
| 03:27.22 | paulfm | bummer |
| 03:27.29 | paulfm | infernix: thanks for all the effort |
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| 03:27.38 | paulfm | cafuego: you too .. thanks for the effort |
| 03:27.49 | paulfm | what do I do now⦠cry in the corner |
| 03:28.03 | resus | alfplayer, ohh "whereis" |
| 03:28.06 | resus | alfplayer, thanks |
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| 03:28.27 | alfplayer | resus: he, i didn't meant that, you're welcome anyway |
| 03:28.48 | resus | ha ok |
| 03:29.10 | infernix | paulfm: still getting Cannot assign requested address? |
| 03:29.29 | paulfm | infernix: yeah |
| 03:29.39 | infernix | and when you telnet the ulimit -a says 20k? |
| 03:29.43 | paulfm | I read online about machine possible running out f ports? |
| 03:30.03 | paulfm | infernix: I set all ulimits to 65535 |
| 03:30.12 | infernix | ulimit -a shows this? |
| 03:30.19 | paulfm | infernix: not with you?⦠limit with telnet? |
| 03:30.35 | paulfm | open files (-n) 65535 |
| 03:30.41 | infernix | hmpf |
| 03:30.45 | paulfm | yah |
| 03:31.04 | paulfm | lemme run your netstat again |
| 03:31.16 | paulfm | 33930 |
| 03:31.49 | paulfm | is there a way to increase the source ports? |
| 03:31.51 | infernix | nah if it's not an open files limit you will need to look at strace -f -s 10000 -o /tmp/wtf.log telnet blah 3306 |
| 03:32.08 | infernix | then wtf.log should tell you more |
| 03:32.13 | paulfm | cool |
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| 03:33.33 | paulfm | whoa... |
| 03:33.35 | paulfm | wtf.log |
| 03:33.38 | infernix | need sleep now, i'm out. ask me again in 8 hours |
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| 03:36.50 | nplus | Hi, I'm running squeeze on my laptop and I noticed that it shuts down really quickly (within 5-10 seconds). Is that normal how can I check for any errors during shutdown? |
| 03:37.11 | cafuego | nplus: Does it run fsck during bootup? |
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| 03:38.21 | Dewi | nplus: doesn't sound unreasonable. Only windows thinks shutting down is work |
| 03:38.57 | nplus | cafuego: where would I check? |
| 03:39.27 | nplus | Dewi: fair enough, I wasn't sure if the quick shutdown was normal or too good to be true |
| 03:39.47 | nplus | cafuego: I didn't see anything in dmesg |
| 03:40.23 | cafuego | nplus: If it runs fsck it'll tell you it's doing disk checks. if not, it's fine. |
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| 03:40.52 | nplus | after 32 mounts or something along those lines? |
| 03:41.41 | Dewi | nplus: that's if dismounts are clean |
| 03:41.52 | Dewi | nplus: an unclean dismount will always trigger fsck |
| 03:41.58 | nplus | oh ok |
| 03:42.19 | nplus | well it doesn't run on every boot |
| 03:42.50 | cafuego | nplus: It it shuts down improperly it'll run it at the enxt boot. |
| 03:43.13 | cafuego | nplus: You can check the mount count setting via tune2fs -l /dev/sdXY |
| 03:43.28 | cafuego | nplus: it has a number of mounts AND a time interval |
| 03:43.40 | nplus | ok thanks, i'll check that out |
| 03:43.40 | cafuego | it'll use whichever is shorter |
| 03:43.53 | cafuego | I find it irritating, so I turn them off usually |
| 03:45.56 | nplus | it says last checked April |
| 03:46.31 | nplus | with a check interval of 6 months... and i'm at 17 of 37 mounts so it seems fine |
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| 03:47.27 | nplus | alright, thanks for the help |
| 03:47.59 | paulfm | is it bad to turn off ipv6?.. I think its causing my issue? |
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| 03:49.58 | ilumi | looking for an app to sync 2 folders on the same pc, different drives, any ideas? |
| 03:50.11 | somiaj | ilumi: rsync? |
| 03:50.24 | somiaj | ilumi: rsync -av /path/to/source /path/to/dest |
| 03:51.06 | ilumi | somiaj: i tried but rsync workd over the network, i dont feel like setting that up |
| 03:51.29 | somiaj | ilumi: rsync syncs two file systems |
| 03:51.40 | somiaj | ilumi: its network ability is just bonus. You can do it completely locally |
| 03:51.55 | Dagger3 | paulfm: have you checked, e.g. `netstat -an` for excessive amounts of sockets? |
| 03:52.11 | somiaj | ilumi: cp -a (if you just want to clone a directory) |
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| 03:52.16 | paulfm | Dagger3: ⦠no⦠lemme see |
| 03:52.43 | paulfm | whooaaaaa |
| 03:52.44 | paulfm | millions of TIME_WAIT |
| 03:52.52 | paulfm | â¦well tens of thousandds probably |
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| 03:52.58 | ilumi | somiaj: okay i will try the rsync one more time, but i got some kind of error i think |
| 03:52.59 | paulfm | what is all that |
| 03:53.18 | Liquid-Silence | I need to setup a box which will take screenshots and spam rating (spam assasin) today any tips? The screenshots get taken from firefox / chrome, in gmail, yahoo and hotmail |
| 03:53.20 | paulfm | Dagger3: wowâ¦. |
| 03:53.37 | Dagger3 | (`netstat -nl | grep TIME_WAIT | wc -l` can tell you) |
| 03:54.22 | Dagger3 | they're connections that are in the process of closing |
| 03:54.23 | paulfm | Dagger3: uhmm.. that gives me 0?.... |
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| 03:54.38 | paulfm | Dagger3: can I make them close sooner? |
| 03:54.38 | somiaj | Liquid-Silence: scrot can take screenshots, you can also just install spam assasin (though not sure of other spam filtering software) |
| 03:54.45 | Dagger3 | you can reduce the timeout for them... somehow |
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| 03:54.58 | Liquid-Silence | paulfm its for email marketing |
| 03:55.11 | paulfm | Dagger3: yeah thats exactly what I need⦠that'll free up some ports |
| 03:55.14 | Liquid-Silence | so I want to tell the guys that these links are blacklisted etc⦠in their mails |
| 03:55.15 | paulfm | Liquid-Silence: huh? |
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| 03:56.48 | paulfm | Dagger3: 32686 |
| 03:56.57 | paulfm | yikes |
| 03:57.22 | Dagger3 | I think it's set in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timeout (or net.ipv4.tcp_fin_timeout via sysctl) |
| 03:57.39 | Dagger3 | but it defaults to 60 on my box, which implies that you're making many thousands of connections per minute |
| 03:57.56 | Dagger3 | so if reducing that number does help... you need to work out why you're getting so many |
| 03:58.41 | paulfm | Dagger3: yeah⦠I am expecting a lot⦠but maybe not that many.... |
| 03:59.16 | paulfm | Dagger3: is that timeout after the connection is close⦠..Im guessing after its idle? |
| 03:59.24 | nplus | paulfm: can I ask what you're running that's using so many connections? |
| 04:00.18 | paulfm | nplus: some inefficient php scripts making many connections⦠used in a polling environment.. multiplied by polling boxes :-) |
| 04:00.41 | nplus | oooh fun :P |
| 04:00.50 | paulfm | nplus: not fun |
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| 04:01.02 | paulfm | :-? |
| 04:01.15 | nplus | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.20 | Dagger3 | paulfm: I think all connections go into that state on close... google will know more than me |
| 04:01.39 | paulfm | coolâ¦. Dagger⦠you're the man yo! |
| 04:01.51 | Dagger3 | paulfm: http://www.stolk.org/debian/timewait.html hm, ok, maybe it's not tcp_fin_timeout. the tcp_tw_recycle entry looks useful though |
| 04:01.55 | paulfm | nplus: hah⦠I gotcha |
| 04:02.09 | paulfm | Dagger3: looking |
| 04:02.15 | ilumi | somiaj: do you know if rsync deletes files too or just copies them? |
| 04:02.31 | somiaj | ilumi: look at the -u option |
| 04:03.05 | somiaj | ilumi: I belive it can do either, but I don't use it except to clone certain dirs from my laptop to desktop and visa/versa and for backup |
| 04:03.08 | Dagger3 | paulfm: you should probably investigate persistant mysql connections as an actual fix (I assume all your sockets are connections to mysql), especially since that'll make your scripts slightly less inefficient ;) |
| 04:03.16 | somiaj | ilumi: so I want an exact copy of the tree which I think is default |
| 04:04.18 | ilumi | somiaj: ok, i see there is an extra command for deleting, thanks ill give it a try |
| 04:04.36 | somiaj | ilumi: yea sorry, I got the -u option confused... |
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| 04:04.54 | paulfm | Dagger3: thanksâ¦. yeah good idea |
| 04:05.03 | paulfm | maybe persistent will solve this |
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| 04:08.49 | jcrowgey | hello #debian gurus, on boot, dmesg tells me "pci_root ... address space collision: host bridge window [address] conflicts with Video ROM [address]" I can't tell that any trouble arise from this warning, but I'm not really sure what this means or how to fix it. any ideas? |
| 04:09.15 | jcrowgey | hello #debian gurus, on boot, dmesg tells me "pci_root ... address space collision: host bridge window [address] conflicts with Video ROM [address]" I can't tell that any trouble arise from this warning, but I'm not really sure what this means or how to fix it. any ideas? |
| 04:09.31 | Dagger3 | paulfm: check what the connections are to/from... if they're all to the mysql server, then that's a good place to look |
| 04:09.38 | jcrowgey | hmm, maybe i'm having trouble with my irc client, sorry to repeat like that |
| 04:09.55 | paulfm | Dagger: all to the mysql server from a single web app server |
| 04:10.07 | paulfm | Dagger3: all to mysql box from 1 source boc |
| 04:10.21 | Dagger3 | paulfm: they could all be to e.g. port 80 though, in which case the issue is the http connec- ah, well, there you go |
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| 04:12.02 | paulfm | Dagger3: maybe I didn't say it correctlyâ¦. web app talks to mysql box⦠over port 3306 |
| 04:12.09 | jcrowgey | hello, testing my client, sorry to spam |
| 04:12.37 | jcrowgey | okay, i'm working fine now, i have a question about an "address space collision" listed in dmesg on boot |
| 04:12.46 | jcrowgey | i'm not exactly sure what it means |
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| 04:13.44 | paulfm | killed server - waiting for all old waits to die |
| 04:13.46 | Dagger3 | paulfm: well, I was just noting that it might potentially not be the mysql connections, and that you should check before wasting your time... but it looks like it is, so that's that |
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| 04:14.19 | wols | jcrowgey: you cannot really fix it.it's your PCI hardware which does it. if it all works fine: don't worry |
| 04:14.25 | paulfm | Dagger3: aha⦠thanks yeah - its php connecting to mysql for sure⦠you nailed it⦠its the lagged TIME_WAITs |
| 04:14.33 | paulfm | this guys ned to go faster.. |
| 04:14.36 | paulfm | I saw this: |
| 04:14.37 | paulfm | netstat -an | grep TIME_WAIT | wc -l |
| 04:14.42 | paulfm | oops.. thats you line |
| 04:15.04 | paulfm | this looks like it may help /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_reuse |
| 04:16.01 | jcrowgey | wols: thanks, the specific message is that the host bridge windows conflicts with Video ROM. so far, it seem slike all is working well, but I'm wondering if this means that I'm not using all my Video ROM and/or I should reconfigure memory settings somehow. |
| 04:17.06 | paulfm | Dagger3: actually that didn't help at all⦠30 seconds after restarting apache⦠counts are back up to 20K+ |
| 04:17.08 | somiaj | jcrowgey: isn't there a 'to disable this warning use this boot parameter' in the error? |
| 04:17.23 | somiaj | jcrowgey: for teh most part if its the warning I'm thinking of, its nothing more than a warning. |
| 04:17.58 | paulfm | Dagger3: any ideas why 37k seems to be ap problem⦠I have open files limit at 56K |
| 04:18.07 | jcrowgey | somiaj, I don't see any such text in dmesg |
| 04:18.19 | paulfm | Dagger3: why at 37k usage is it hitting a limit |
| 04:18.43 | jcrowgey | i suppose you're right that it's nothing more than a warning, i'm just bothering you guys about it for my own education :) |
| 04:20.27 | Dagger3 | paulfm: dunno... there's only 65k TCP ports per IP address, so my guess is perhaps something like "it tries to pick ports randomly, but gives up if it can't find a free one after n attempts" |
| 04:20.50 | somiaj | jcrowgey: I get a very similar error, Looked up and then just ignored it |
| 04:20.51 | paulfm | Dagger3: yeah⦠that sounds about right... |
| 04:21.05 | Dagger3 | paulfm: (of course it could easily just be some other limit on open ports. I dunno. but if my above guess is the problem, maybe adding a second IP address would help) |
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| 04:21.35 | jcrowgey | somiaj, fair enough, thanks. |
| 04:21.36 | paulfm | Dagger3: hmmm⦠how does 1 do that? |
| 04:21.49 | paulfm | Ihave multiple nics? |
| 04:21.55 | Dagger3 | paulfm: wait a bit to see if tcp_tw_reuse helped at all first |
| 04:22.06 | paulfm | Dagger3: heh.. OK |
| 04:22.09 | paulfm | good point |
| 04:22.18 | Dagger3 | paulfm: then `ip addr add 192.168.0.42 dev eth0` |
| 04:23.06 | paulfm | Dagger: does this go in interfaces? |
| 04:23.21 | paulfm | command line?⦠10-4 |
| 04:23.24 | Dagger3 | paulfm: there's also tcp_tw_recycle for some sort of faster, less safe reuse of TIME_WAIT sockets |
| 04:23.34 | Dagger3 | run it at the command-line |
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| 04:23.45 | paulfm | Dagger3: trying recycle⦠the less say part scared me |
| 04:24.32 | Dagger3 | you'll need to run it automatically from /e/n/i to make it persist over reboot... but I think you should fix the root problem rather than do that ;) |
| 04:25.17 | paulfm | Dagger3: yeah - agreed |
| 04:25.35 | paulfm | Dagger3: trying php mysql_pconnect for persistent db connections |
| 04:25.59 | paulfm | although don't know if its gonna help |
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| 04:33.13 | paulfm | Dagger3: I think that did it!!!! |
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| 04:33.39 | paulfm | Dagger3: went from 37K TIME_WAITs to about 6K |
| 04:33.53 | paulfm | using pups mysql_pconnect()⦠for persistent connections |
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| 04:34.10 | NCS_One | hi |
| 04:34.19 | Dagger3 | woo \o/ |
| 04:34.20 | paulfm | no longer dropping connections⦠because sockets can be created now!!!! |
| 04:34.29 | paulfm | YAYAYAY!!!.... |
| 04:34.35 | blommer | what's the best way to setup send-only email? |
| 04:34.42 | paulfm | ok Ill calm down⦠Ive been working on this for 3 days! |
| 04:34.51 | Dagger3 | that should also lower the load on the sql server, for when you inevitably end up with more polling clients |
| 04:35.11 | paulfm | dude thanks to infernix , cafuego & last but not least Dagger3!!! |
| 04:35.16 | paulfm | Dagger: hahahâ¦. indeed |
| 04:35.18 | NCS_One | how can I bind mouse buttons? |
| 04:35.40 | paulfm | Dagger3: I need a more efficient app to reduce connections... |
| 04:36.04 | Dagger3 | definitely mostly infernix and cafuego. I only had a clue because of their ideas :) |
| 04:36.29 | tuv | i have ~16000 entries in /proc/net/nf_conntrack in a desktop machine (not a firewall/nat - nf is there due to libvirt and bridging). i can't tell what programs are responsible for that many connections and all my vms are shut down! |
| 04:37.33 | paulfm | Dagger3: you can through⦠I was crying myself to sleep! |
| 04:37.47 | paulfm | man - I learnt a lot tonight |
| 04:38.08 | paulfm | netstat.. sockets⦠open files⦠time_wait⦠watch them all |
| 04:38.30 | paulfm | telnet to mysql was cafuego big gift⦠that isolated it big time.. |
| 04:38.32 | tuv | netstat shows only a handful connections |
| 04:39.00 | tuv | most of the connections are in the [ASSURED] state, whatever that means |
| 04:39.05 | paulfm | well it was showing 37K time-waits⦠|
| 04:39.13 | paulfm | thats too many for me |
| 04:39.31 | paulfm | man.. gotta ht the head⦠its been a 15 hour session |
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| 04:45.03 | gonzaloaf | hello, every time I turn off and turn on my computer my debian clock is changed, here is 23:45 and my debian clock says 18:45 hours, do you know why is it happening? |
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| 04:45.59 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: do you run other oses? |
| 04:46.13 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: usually debian sets the clock to UTC time and then sets your timezone to adjust the time correctly |
| 04:46.44 | gonzaloaf | somiaj, yes my wife runs windows :s |
| 04:47.14 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: so windows will automically change teh clock each time it boots up. So you have to tell debian not to use UTC time as default and not adjust for teh time zone |
| 04:47.23 | gonzaloaf | somiaj, If I set the time manually, then in the next boot it is changed again |
| 04:47.41 | gonzaloaf | somiaj, how do I do that? |
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| 04:48.02 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: I know how to change the timezone (that is tzconfig) but I'm not not sure how to disable it completely and let debian know its not using UTC time (I only know that you get that asked that question when you install) |
| 04:48.10 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: I could try google, but I"m feeling lazy |
| 04:48.49 | gonzaloaf | somiaj, what is exactly UTC time? |
| 04:49.27 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time |
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| 04:50.06 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: simple answer, its GMT timezone -- but there are some subtle differnces in how it deals with seconds. |
| 04:50.13 | gonzaloaf | yeah yeah, I'm already reading it, I mean why should I not use UTC time? |
| 04:50.55 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: the issue is debian (as most servers) use utc time and then adjust the clocks based on a timezone setting (so the internal hardware clock is set to UTC) |
| 04:51.12 | tuv | 'connections marked as [ASSURED] will not be erased' |
| 04:51.14 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: windows on the other hand changes the hardware clock to match local time -- so with dual booting they will always conflict. Easier to make debian not use it. |
| 04:51.26 | tuv | how do i force-terminate conntrack connections? |
| 04:51.52 | gonzaloaf | btw, my time zone was well configured, I've just configured it again |
| 04:52.19 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: well what happens is when you boot up, since windows changed the time, debian will correct that new hardware time by the timezone setting and will show you the wrong time |
| 04:53.06 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html#s-multiboot-with |
| 04:53.42 | gonzaloaf | somiaj, so what I have to do is disable debian to check the system UTC clock in startup right? |
| 04:54.25 | Dagger3 | gonzaloaf: check /etc/default/rcS and `man rcS` |
| 04:54.50 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: do you run a ntp (network time protocl) sync in debian? if not just set the debian timezone to UTC and then set your clock to local time |
| 04:55.06 | Dagger3 | no, don't set the timezone to UTC ;_; |
| 04:55.46 | somiaj | yea listen to Dagger3, gonzaloaf -- I just found the option. :/ |
| 04:56.07 | Dagger3 | (because then it'll be wrong. your emails will show up 5 hours in the past/future, for instance) |
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| 04:57.56 | gonzaloaf | Dagger3, what should I do? |
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| 04:58.21 | somiaj | gonzaloaf: chnage UTC varaible to no in that file |
| 04:59.01 | gonzaloaf | I have UTC=yes, changing to no |
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| 04:59.56 | tuv | where do large numbers of ASSURED connections come from (conntrack)????? |
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| 05:00.26 | gonzaloaf | Dagger3, somiaj, thanks!!! |
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| 05:04.11 | tuv | what is the typical number of entries in /proc/net/nf_conntrack? (say for a just-booted machine) |
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| 05:18.33 | skilz | Is there any way to run a process such a 'tcpdump' and keep it running when I logout? So I can see tcpdump but I am logged out of the system? |
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| 05:19.12 | wols | skilz: run it under screen, use nohup, etc |
| 05:19.32 | wols | probably screen for your case |
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| 05:22.38 | jardiamj_ | Hello |
| 05:23.01 | jardiamj_ | I think I need some help with my screen resolution |
| 05:25.03 | bolt | ... |
| 05:25.48 | wols | what videcard and driver? |
| 05:25.56 | wols | oh |
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| 05:47.02 | KurinPawpad | Hi everyone, does anyone know if there's any way to test the IO of a system? I'm trying to run a server/program, it seems to crunch numbers fine, but any disk-writing it lags very, very badly on. |
| 05:48.44 | wols | bonnie, hdparm,etc |
| 05:48.56 | wols | is it inside a Vmà |
| 05:49.11 | wols | *VM |
| 05:49.24 | KurinPawpad | no, desktop turned into a server. |
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| 05:58.21 | Some_Person | Is there any way to get rid of the loud beep when shutting down? |
| 06:00.49 | Mr_Queue | Some_Person: check the bios? |
| 06:01.06 | Some_Person | ??? |
| 06:01.17 | Mr_Queue | the bios, did you check them? |
| 06:01.24 | Some_Person | It happens when I immediately choose to shut down or reboot |
| 06:01.31 | Some_Person | can't be generated by the BIOS |
| 06:01.42 | wols | !tell Some_Person about pcspkr |
| 06:02.01 | Mr_Queue | wols: good call, I was trying to remember what that was. |
| 06:02.06 | Some_Person | But the noise comes through my soundcard |
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| 06:03.43 | wols | have you tried it? |
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| 06:57.49 | ujjain | does du check disk size of mounted drives? |
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| 06:59.21 | Dagger3 | du will recurse into other filesystems; check its -x option |
| 06:59.47 | Dagger3 | or see `df` if you want to check the size of your disks |
| 06:59.55 | somiaj | ujjain: you can use df if you want to see the size of the different mount poitns. |
| 07:00.19 | ujjain | thanks, and why does this create a nohup.out? |
| 07:00.23 | ujjain | nohup du -h -x --max-depth=3 / > /home/developer/Console/disk_size.log & |
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| 07:05.03 | ujjain | my bad, it was doing the job right. |
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| 07:13.02 | afuentes | hi, i get this error when using fabric -->http://paste.debian.net/130174/ |
| 07:13.06 | afuentes | can anybody help me? |
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| 07:25.03 | zuse_ | i regognize you, novis |
| 07:25.08 | zuse_ | sry |
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| 07:31.43 | felidae | wols: apologies for yesterday, i'm in china and my connection decided to drop suddenly for several hours |
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| 07:37.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peesp what package is pdftools in I did a search for it but it don't come up.. |
| 07:37.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | er pdftotext is what I need |
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| 07:38.32 | cafuego | !find pdftotext |
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| 07:38.54 | and`_ | gday all :-) |
| 07:38.57 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'pdftotext' (2): (/usr/bin/pdftotext) in utils/poppler-utils ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/pdftotext) in debug/poppler-dbg. |
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| 07:39.23 | kuLa | well gday all again :-) |
| 07:39.43 | MaXim_ | hi guys, anyone around to help me get OSS4 working under sid? |
| 07:41.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | ty |
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| 07:43.38 | streuner_ | MaXim_: please give us more details |
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| 07:44.26 | MaXim_ | i've installed the oss packages, but there is an error when i'm installing oss4-dkms |
| 07:44.28 | MaXim_ | Unloading Open Sound System kernel modules: done (OSS not loaded). |
| 07:44.30 | MaXim_ | Starting Open Sound System: failed (No kernel modules detected). |
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| 07:44.52 | MaXim_ | the modules do seem to exist in /var/lib/dkms/oss4 etc |
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| 07:45.46 | streuner_ | MaXim_: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 07:46.10 | MaXim_ | headers are already installed |
| 07:46.32 | MaXim_ | needed them for nvidia dkms :P |
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| 07:48.18 | streuner_ | MaXim_: what happens if you run "apt-get install --reinstall oss4-dkms"? |
| 07:48.18 | MaXim_ | dpkg-reconfigure oss4-dkms gives the same error |
| 07:48.37 | MaXim_ | same error |
| 07:49.20 | streuner_ | well, i had almost the same problem with dkms |
| 07:49.23 | MaXim_ | http://pastebin.com/7j6chxhp |
| 07:49.35 | streuner_ | i just made the modules out of source then |
| 07:49.47 | MaXim_ | yeh I think I'll have to do that |
| 07:50.42 | MaXim_ | alsa seems not to work well with my sound card, if I go on suspend and resume, the audio plays back about twice as fast as it should |
| 07:51.06 | MaXim_ | stutters and choppy |
| 07:51.16 | streuner_ | MaXim_: i think, it was a problem because i used demo version deb of opensound, maybe thats why i had problems with dkms in Debian |
| 07:51.35 | MaXim_ | hmm |
| 07:51.38 | MaXim_ | maybe |
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| 07:52.18 | streuner_ | MaXim_: but opensound has a nice wiki about how to compile it via source |
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| 07:53.26 | streuner_ | MaXim_: http://www.opensound.com/wiki/index.php/Building_OSSv4_from_source |
| 07:53.35 | MaXim_ | thanks |
| 07:53.40 | streuner_ | np |
| 07:53.56 | MaXim_ | bbiab i guess |
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| 07:57.24 | qrq | How change langusage setings in Debian? |
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| 07:57.51 | streuner_ | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 07:58.13 | streuner_ | !locales |
| 07:58.14 | dpkg | Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
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| 08:00.31 | y3llow | Hi.I am running a lenny box.How do I have the content(like camera pictures) of my Nokia c2 synced into my machines? |
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| 08:00.56 | y3llow | Nokia c2 is a cell phone :O |
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| 08:01.04 | qrq | dpkg I want to set to have chinese fonts |
| 08:01.04 | dpkg | wish i knew, qrq |
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| 08:01.27 | y3llow | I dont understand that manual of the cell phone |
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| 08:01.48 | ewemoa | qrq: xfonts-intl-chinese? |
| 08:01.55 | y3llow | qrq: it's easy.jsut a bit of goole will help you |
| 08:02.23 | EmleyMoor | Goole? Odd town... |
| 08:02.57 | y3llow | EmleyMoor: know how to sync a cell phone |
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| 08:03.45 | EmleyMoor | y3llow: Sync it to something in Debian? No - beesn trying to look into that myself |
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| 08:04.25 | y3llow | oh. I am a bit surprised |
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| 08:04.50 | y3llow | such things are so ordinary stuff |
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| 08:05.56 | qrq | Ive installed that package |
| 08:06.02 | qrq | I need to restart x? |
| 08:07.39 | y3llow | I remember I didnt have to .qrq |
| 08:08.36 | qrq | Or maybe dpkg-reconfigure locales is enough? |
| 08:08.40 | MaXim_ | streuner_: that seems to have done the trick |
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| 08:08.45 | MaXim_ | shakes fist at dkms |
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| 08:09.30 | qrq | Should I use dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
| 08:09.55 | ujjain | I broke my desktop, I think it is related to reinstalling kernel-image file. |
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| 08:10.05 | ujjain | It starts booting GNOME, then just screen goes away. |
| 08:10.15 | MaXim_ | qrq: when you type that command, you will get a list of locales to select |
| 08:10.17 | ujjain | I am not sure what log files to check, syslog/messages does not provide useful info. |
| 08:10.26 | MaXim_ | i guess you want to pick something like zh_CN.UTF-8 or whatever |
| 08:10.26 | hugoroy | hello, i have a problem with the time. I am pretty sure that it's 10:00 o'clock where I am; but when I did 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' it says my local time is now 12:00 |
| 08:10.50 | hugoroy | Current default time zone: 'Europe/Paris' Local time is now: Fri Sep 16 12:07:51 CEST 2011. Universal Time is now: Fri Sep 16 10:07:51 UTC 2011. |
| 08:11.05 | EmleyMoor | ujjain: What kind of graphics card/driver are you using? |
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| 08:11.33 | ujjain | EmleyMoor: AMD 5770, but I haven't touched that, while I have installed/edited/removed a lot of programs today. |
| 08:11.48 | ujjain | any way I can boot verbose and see more info? |
| 08:12.06 | qrq | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:12.12 | EmleyMoor | ujjain: Deos that use an additional driver? If so, then it could be that that is now "out of sync" with the kernel |
| 08:12.36 | MaXim_ | qrq: that's the only option? |
| 08:13.17 | ujjain | EmleyMoor: Yes, it does. but I did not change kernel, just reinstlaled kernel. But it might be worth reinstalling VGA drivers yes. |
| 08:13.19 | EmleyMoor | hugoroy: You have UTC wrong - it's 08:13 now |
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| 08:14.32 | EmleyMoor | hugoroy: Did you set the time on your motherboard to your local time? If so, that's why it's wrong. It should normally be set to UTC for a Linux box |
| 08:14.50 | MaXim_ | mm lovely |
| 08:14.58 | MaXim_ | i guess my sound card does not work at all with OSS45 |
| 08:15.02 | MaXim_ | OSS4* |
| 08:15.06 | EmleyMoor | Europe/Paris is currently UTC + 2h |
| 08:15.13 | MaXim_ | while it breaks under ALSA if I go on suspend |
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| 08:16.29 | POVaddct | MaXim_: and what kind of soundcard is that? |
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| 08:16.45 | MaXim_ | it is an Onkyo SE-200PCI |
| 08:16.46 | streuner_ | MaXim_: soundon doesnt work? |
| 08:16.52 | MaXim_ | envy24 chipset |
| 08:16.56 | MaXim_ | envy24HT |
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| 08:17.00 | POVaddct | MaXim_: uh, never heard of it |
| 08:17.22 | MaXim_ | [ 2908.366075] Unknown device ID (0001160b). |
| 08:17.24 | MaXim_ | [ 2908.366078] This card may not be supported (yet). |
| 08:17.26 | POVaddct | MaXim_: is that an onboard sound card? |
| 08:17.26 | MaXim_ | [ 2908.366083] Envy24ht: This card was not recognized: 0001160b |
| 08:17.31 | MaXim_ | nah |
| 08:17.33 | qrq | What is the difference between font in utf-8 and without it? |
| 08:17.36 | MaXim_ | pci |
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| 08:17.55 | streuner_ | judd, pciid 0001:160b |
| 08:17.57 | judd | [0001:160b] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0001:160b |
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| 08:18.19 | MaXim_ | hehe |
| 08:18.33 | MaXim_ | it was worth a crack |
| 08:18.45 | MaXim_ | my card works well under FreeBSD's own OSS drivers |
| 08:18.50 | MaXim_ | but no SPDIF out |
| 08:19.07 | MaXim_ | but those are not the same as OSS4 |
| 08:19.25 | MaXim_ | it was picked up as a generic card but still worked |
| 08:19.32 | hugoroy | EmleyMoor: yes i probably did that wrong, how can i fix? |
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| 08:20.23 | EmleyMoor | hugoroy: Easiest: reboot and while you can, set the clock in the BIOS back 2 hours |
| 08:20.29 | hugoroy | (it's not a personal laptop, but a corporate laptop, so they probably did stuffs i'm not aware of) |
| 08:20.43 | hugoroy | EmleyMoor: ok! |
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| 08:21.48 | Bushmills | hugoroy: ntpd -g -q; hwclock --systohc |
| 08:22.21 | Bushmills | or ntpdate (obsolescent) or rdate (same) |
| 08:22.31 | EmleyMoor | Bushmills: Ah, that's a good way |
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| 08:24.25 | hugoroy | thanks EmleyMoor i'll do that next reboot |
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| 08:25.19 | streuner_ | MaXim_: http://www.opensound.com/support.cgi - maybe they have a solution |
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| 08:26.13 | MaXim_ | cheers |
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| 08:35.51 | qrq | I used dpkg-reconfigure locales , and I used all locales |
| 08:35.56 | qrq | And still no chinese fonts |
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| 08:36.23 | MaXim_ | qrq: i asked before |
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| 08:36.27 | Shadur | Does anyone know offhand what the character limit is for usernames in debian? |
| 08:36.28 | MaXim_ | was that the only option available? |
| 08:36.43 | qrq | MaXim Which option? |
| 08:36.45 | Shadur | 32, thanks. |
| 08:37.06 | MaXim_ | in dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 08:37.23 | qrq | "Use all avaliable" |
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| 08:37.32 | qrq | And it recofsigured all locales |
| 08:37.37 | qrq | reconfigured |
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| 08:37.52 | qrq | From a to z :D |
| 08:38.08 | qrq | And for basic locale I use pl_PL udf-8 |
| 08:38.14 | qrq | utf |
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| 08:38.28 | MaXim_ | you should be able to display chinese with pl_PL.UTF-8 |
| 08:38.30 | MaXim_ | just need chinese font |
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| 08:39.15 | MaXim_ | microsoft core fonts includes some chinese fonts such as mingliu |
| 08:39.24 | MaXim_ | simsun, simhei |
| 08:39.29 | qrq | http://xjqian.wordpress.com/2007/11/13/chinese-fonts-in-debian/ |
| 08:39.33 | qrq | There is a guide |
| 08:39.57 | qrq | But its old :D |
| 08:40.14 | MaXim_ | msttcorefonts is now ttf-mscorefonts-installer |
| 08:40.58 | qrq | chinese xfonts should be enough? |
| 08:41.50 | MaXim_ | the other package names should be ok |
| 08:42.00 | MaXim_ | just follow the guide for the package installing bit |
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| 08:51.05 | streuner_ | hm |
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| 08:53.37 | EmleyMoor | I appear to have a linux-image package mismatch between my machines... one has linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 2.6.32-36, the other two only have 2.6.32-35squeeze2 - and no update offered. Can anyone shed some light on why? |
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| 08:54.56 | MaXim_ | i think you may have to select another linux-image package |
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| 08:55.45 | EmleyMoor | MaXim_: How so? They are different versions of the same package, not different packages |
| 08:56.01 | MaXim_ | are you usre? |
| 08:56.08 | MaXim_ | i think they are different packages |
| 08:56.36 | EmleyMoor | They are not. They are both linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 08:56.39 | MaXim_ | ic |
| 08:56.52 | MaXim_ | what upgrade do you use |
| 08:56.55 | MaXim_ | safe-upgrade? |
| 08:56.59 | EmleyMoor | Ah - might have found a reason... |
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| 08:57.49 | EmleyMoor | 36 is in "Proposed updates" rather than in the main repo |
| 08:58.04 | MaXim_ | ah |
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| 09:03.09 | noot | I may have done something horribly wrong |
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| 09:03.26 | noot | in attempt to update my kernal, i simply selected to install it from synaptic |
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| 09:04.36 | noot | now, it says i have both 2.6.32-35 and 3.0.0-3 installed |
| 09:05.06 | noot | but uname -r returns the former |
| 09:05.34 | noot | what must be done so that the latest linux kernal is installed on my system? |
| 09:05.53 | petern_ | it's perfectly fine, and normal, to have more than one kernel installed |
| 09:06.20 | petern_ | 1) you did reboot, right? |
| 09:06.21 | noot | rly? that just sounds so wierd... |
| 09:06.23 | noot | no i didnt |
| 09:06.26 | petern_ | oh |
| 09:06.34 | petern_ | then i won't even go to 2 |
| 09:06.42 | petern_ | you've got to reboot to use a new kernel... |
| 09:06.52 | noot | I was told that linux doesnt really need to reboot, though i guess in the case of a kernel update... |
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| 09:07.21 | noot | well, then, if i still have problems after reboot, ill be back. |
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| 09:07.32 | noot | hory shit |
| 09:07.34 | MaXim_ | make sure you pick the correct kernel |
| 09:07.36 | MaXim_ | when you boot |
| 09:07.42 | noot | gnome is fsckd up... |
| 09:07.56 | noot | i click shutdown and unicode is broken; i get those square chars |
| 09:08.47 | petern_ | (i wonder if he's actually using debian...) |
| 09:08.57 | MaXim_ | i had that once |
| 09:09.00 | MaXim_ | it went away when i rebooted |
| 09:09.07 | MaXim_ | not gnome though, xfce |
| 09:09.25 | petern_ | oh, could be backports |
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| 09:15.43 | ikrabbe | Hi, I have a virtual server here with squeeze 6.0.2 here. Typing uppercase umlaut characters ÃÃÃ does not work in this system. lowercase umlaut characters do work. |
| 09:16.19 | ikrabbe | Actually uppercase umlauts are double encoded. as you can see in this output , run through od -x: |
| 09:16.27 | hroi | hi |
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| 09:16.36 | hroi | I need to resize a partition |
| 09:16.44 | hroi | someone mentioned lvm |
| 09:16.48 | ikrabbe | 0000000 83c3 b6c2 83c3 96c2 000a |
| 09:17.07 | hroi | and gparted |
| 09:17.24 | hroi | which one is recommended by debian? |
| 09:17.52 | ikrabbe | hroi, actually you can resize partitions with parted and resize.ext2 or so, but lvm is always more secure |
| 09:18.11 | ikrabbe | and more felixble too |
| 09:19.04 | hroi | ikrabbe: ok lvm then |
| 09:19.04 | ikrabbe | hmm the od -x line above is: öà |
| 09:19.26 | ikrabbe | you can see ö = 83c3, which is ok |
| 09:19.30 | hroi | ikrabbe: I read a lot of problems when I google people trying to expand their partitions |
| 09:19.49 | ikrabbe | but Ã= b6c2 83c3 96c2 |
| 09:19.53 | ikrabbe | this is wrong |
| 09:20.19 | hroi | actually |
| 09:20.24 | hroi | Im a little confused here |
| 09:20.29 | hroi | my / filled up |
| 09:20.38 | ikrabbe | hroi, that is strange, as expanding partitions with lvm is not really complex or dangerous |
| 09:20.48 | hroi | which is kinda strange, because I read nothing under /tmp/ which is on my / |
| 09:20.59 | ikrabbe | hroi, when you want to shrink a parition you have to take care |
| 09:21.00 | hroi | ikrabbe: ok good to know |
| 09:21.11 | hroi | ikrabbe: hope lvm prevents me from doing anything stupid |
| 09:21.41 | ikrabbe | \/tmp in our days should be a "tmpfs" aka shmfs, or shared memory |
| 09:21.47 | hroi | I need now to install lvm... but my / is full, |
| 09:22.02 | ikrabbe | a full / is always a problem |
| 09:22.07 | ikrabbe | try to delete something |
| 09:22.15 | ikrabbe | or move |
| 09:22.18 | hroi | ikrabbe: yeah, I use /dev/shm/ as my tmpfs |
| 09:22.45 | hroi | ikrabbe: /tmp/ is something some software sometimes put too much data in for tmpfs |
| 09:22.51 | ikrabbe | often /var/log contains some bIIIIg files, that might be deleted |
| 09:23.01 | hroi | ikrabbe: ohh |
| 09:23.07 | fbh | log rotation :o |
| 09:23.29 | ikrabbe | yes: full / means no log rotation in 80% |
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| 09:23.38 | hroi | ikrabbe: ok, so /tmp and /var can gradually fill, |
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| 09:23.56 | fbh | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:24.11 | hroi | fbh: now I know :) |
| 09:24.39 | ikrabbe | hroi: also very helpfull to find the filesystem filler is "du -x / | sort -n" |
| 09:24.52 | ikrabbe | might take some time |
| 09:25.17 | hroi | no wait, I did separate /tmp from my / |
| 09:25.22 | ikrabbe | hroi, and as /dev/shm/ is /tmp, so /tmp is mapped on the memory+swap |
| 09:25.48 | hroi | ikrabbe: for me /tmp is its own ext3 filesystem |
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| 09:26.26 | hroi | I use /dev/shm for some software |
| 09:26.30 | hroi | that can use it |
| 09:26.39 | hroi | safely |
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| 09:27.55 | hroi | hmm |
| 09:27.55 | Bauldrick | my sound device is seen as /dev/dsp1 but I would like it /dev/dsp so to use mp3blaster without specifying the device - can i change it (apart from symlink that doesn't survive reboot)? |
| 09:28.19 | hroi | my /var directory containst 740 MB |
| 09:28.29 | hroi | which could explain why things were filling up |
| 09:28.34 | ikrabbe | Bauldrick: see /etc/udev/rules.d |
| 09:28.36 | hroi | or is 740MB normal |
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| 09:28.57 | Bauldrick | ok ikrabbe, cheers |
| 09:29.09 | ikrabbe | hroi: I have 16G in /var |
| 09:30.06 | hroi | my /var/cache is 600 MB |
| 09:30.15 | hroi | my /var/lib is 100MB |
| 09:31.03 | hroi | my /var/cache/apt is 600MB |
| 09:31.08 | hroi | apt-get |
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| 09:32.00 | hroi | ok, I better purge my latex install for example |
| 09:32.03 | hroi | i dont need it |
| 09:32.04 | ompaul | 5.3G /var/cache/apt/ |
| 09:32.05 | hroi | :) |
| 09:32.21 | hroi | best not to touch /var |
| 09:32.30 | ompaul | different strokes for different folks |
| 09:33.08 | hroi | but here is my problem then, I never thought /var/cahce/apt could be taking up so much space |
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| 09:33.13 | hroi | you guys have GB !! |
| 09:33.17 | ThePendulum | Greetings |
| 09:33.25 | ThePendulum | I've got some trouble installing the latest Debian |
| 09:33.29 | hroi | Im trying to run a relatively light VM here |
| 09:33.52 | ThePendulum | The installer gets stuck at about 33 or 37% of retrieving files from the server |
| 09:34.24 | qrq | OK I got chinese fonts in firefox |
| 09:34.25 | ompaul | ThePendulum: I'll swing by the telepathy class and know what's wrong, what version, what hardware etc |
| 09:34.32 | qrq | But How set them in Pidgin? :D |
| 09:34.44 | hroi | ThePendulum: can I get apt-get to run more economically on space? |
| 09:34.58 | hroi | anyone, sorry ThePendulum |
| 09:35.07 | ThePendulum | Sorry I can't help hroi, hehe |
| 09:35.33 | hroi | ThePendulum: maybe you dont have enought /var space |
| 09:35.36 | hroi | hehe |
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| 09:36.09 | ompaul | ThePendulum: how much room have you given yourself for this install. |
| 09:37.05 | ThePendulum | I assumed you'd know the latest version of Debian. Well, 6.02.1. I'm trying to run it on an Acer Aspire SA90 with an Intel Celeron D and 4GB of RAM (1333mhz). It has a Nvidia GT220 graphics card. Debian has the entire disc (about 160GB) for its install, should be more than enough for 10 installs :) |
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| 09:37.32 | ikrabbe | what do I need to switch debian to utf-8? |
| 09:37.35 | ThePendulum | Tried to install it as a separate partition for the /home folder |
| 09:37.50 | ikrabbe | I though these problems where gone |
| 09:37.52 | ThePendulum | Tried several servers as well, both Dutch and German |
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| 09:38.15 | ompaul | ThePendulum: and they all fail around the same point? |
| 09:38.37 | ThePendulum | Yep, all at 33% |
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| 09:39.33 | ThePendulum | Perhaps it has to do with the fact that it's the 64-bits version, I don't know. Ubuntu 64-bits had trouble as well, while Windows 7 64x didn't. Yep, my CPU is 64-bits |
| 09:39.46 | hroi | the ubuntu people suggest tweaking /etc/cron.daily/apt |
| 09:39.50 | hroi | you think that is safe? |
| 09:40.00 | qrq | I have set up Chinese fonts in Debian , they work in system and in firefox , but how set them to work on Pidgin? |
| 09:40.04 | ikrabbe | found it: set convert-meta off in inputrc |
| 09:40.12 | ikrabbe | I think that should be the default |
| 09:40.46 | ompaul | ThePendulum: if that was the problem it would have failed at the start - the issue lies elsewhere |
| 09:41.01 | ompaul | ThePendulum: it looks to me like a firmware issue |
| 09:41.02 | ThePendulum | ompaul: true |
| 09:41.04 | ompaul | give me a sec |
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| 09:41.48 | ThePendulum | ompaul: I wish I had my second computer already, but there's a delay on the components. I can't really be at IRC and run my PC at the same time. I'm using a school computer now |
| 09:42.00 | ThePendulum | I'll have to note everything you suggest because I'm not near my PC : |
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| 09:42.02 | ThePendulum | * :\ |
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| 09:43.02 | ompaul | ThePendulum: this may help you http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
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| 09:44.45 | ThePendulum | ompaul: Thanks for the link, but what am I supposed to do with those files? |
| 09:44.47 | nkuttler | ikrabbe: that's not on by default |
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| 09:45.10 | ikrabbe | nkuttler: yes I found it, but I think it should |
| 09:45.50 | ompaul | ThePendulum: use that as your install in place of the netinst you have |
| 09:46.37 | qrq | I need help . I have set up Chinese fonts in Debian , they work in system and in firefox , but how set them to work on Pidgin? |
| 09:46.57 | ompaul | !one third failure |
| 09:46.57 | dpkg | one third failure is probably when your install freezes at one third this may help http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
| 09:47.28 | ThePendulum | ompaul: I could as well use unetbootin to get the complete installation on my usb I guess, and it should skip this issue, correct? :D |
| 09:47.53 | ompaul | ThePendulum: ENOPARASE |
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| 09:48.12 | hroi | hi |
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| 09:48.28 | ThePendulum | ompaul: Not sure what that means, but it surely sounds tasty! |
| 09:48.29 | hroi | anyone sick of /var/cache/apt taking up many GB of space |
| 09:48.30 | ompaul | ThePendulum: unetbootin is not clever - cat *.iso > /dev/whats-the-usb would be better |
| 09:48.37 | hroi | for no good reason |
| 09:48.44 | hroi | simply run apt-get clean |
| 09:48.53 | ThePendulum | ompaul: I don't have a linux PC available since I ruined my own one lol |
| 09:48.55 | hroi | and you get all your space back :) |
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| 09:49.14 | ompaul | ThePendulum: then create a live cd put the image on a box and put that on a stick |
| 09:49.17 | ThePendulum | Also, I didn't experience any trouble using unetbootin to be honest, did quite some successful installs using unet |
| 09:49.38 | hroi | my default debian server seems to hold on to all its apt-get packages... why on earth? |
| 09:49.41 | ompaul | ThePendulum: lol is not a full stop and not having a linux computer is a shame not a laughing matter :) |
| 09:49.50 | hroi | I needed to manually run apt-get clean |
| 09:50.10 | ThePendulum | ompaul: Hey, it's not my bad Linux doesn't support the new hardware of my other PC's :P |
| 09:50.20 | ThePendulum | At least, Ubuntu and Debian don't |
| 09:50.45 | ThePendulum | ompaul: Also, there's no OS left at my PC so it's basically dead until I get an installer running properly |
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| 09:51.42 | ompaul | ThePendulum: so make a debian install cd and attach to a wall port |
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| 09:51.59 | ThePendulum | ompaul: I'll try to get the complete installer on my stick |
| 09:52.13 | ThePendulum | Perhaps that'll avoid the issue as it doesn't have to download anything |
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| 09:52.46 | ompaul | ThePendulum: only if you are going to plug in during the install |
| 09:52.56 | ThePendulum | Plug what in? |
| 09:53.14 | ompaul | plug into ethernet |
| 09:53.28 | ThePendulum | Well I might install it disconnected then |
| 09:53.53 | ompaul | don't do it like that unless you like beating your head off a table until you bleed :) |
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| 09:54.06 | ompaul | that is **the wrong way (TM) |
| 09:54.14 | ThePendulum | meh. Perhaps I should just run Ubuntu 32-bits and forget about the additional 1.3GB's of RAM I'm missing out on |
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| 09:55.42 | ThePendulum | I wish linux had some more games with neat graphics available, it basically has none |
| 09:55.44 | ompaul | then you are in the wrong channel for support |
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| 09:57.15 | ThePendulum | Well, I wish I could just try the full installer and be completely disconnected from the internet |
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| 09:57.30 | ThePendulum | How are people without an internet connection supposed to install Debian? |
| 09:57.58 | MaXim_ | from DVDs |
| 09:58.15 | petemc | or cd |
| 09:58.19 | ThePendulum | But the installer needs to connect to the internet to function properly, I've been told? |
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| 09:58.19 | ikrabbe | people without an internet connection are very seldom today |
| 09:58.21 | MaXim_ | or BD |
| 09:58.34 | petemc | ThePendulum: thats not correct, have a read of the install guide |
| 09:58.37 | ThePendulum | ikrabbe: Probably not any more seldom than people using Debian at all lol |
| 09:58.46 | ompaul | ThePendulum: only if you use one disk |
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| 09:59.00 | ompaul | ThePendulum: if only have one disk you need to be connected |
| 09:59.01 | ThePendulum | [12:01] <ThePendulum> Well I might install it disconnected then [12:01] <ompaul> don't do it like that unless you like beating your head off a table until you bleed :) |
| 09:59.10 | ThePendulum | Did I read that incorrectly? :\ |
| 09:59.15 | ompaul | ThePendulum: get the full collection |
| 09:59.27 | ThePendulum | That's what I suggested |
| 09:59.30 | ompaul | ThePendulum: you appeared to be using a netinstall already ... |
| 09:59.48 | ompaul | didn't read it like that - so it got lost in transmittion |
| 10:00.00 | ThePendulum | I'll download the full 64-bits installer, throw it on my usb-stick and install it disconnected from the internet... why won't that work? |
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| 10:00.24 | ThePendulum | Sounds like it's time for... Koen, the linux guy |
| 10:00.26 | ompaul | the full installer you want lots of disks to be disconnected or one and connected |
| 10:00.47 | ThePendulum | Ehm, won't 4GB be enough space for the full installer? |
| 10:01.01 | ompaul | one disk installer use there are 4 dvds |
| 10:01.05 | ompaul | go look at the repo please |
| 10:01.19 | ThePendulum | I'm going to put it on my USB-stick, as I said |
| 10:01.40 | ThePendulum | I wonder why Debian needs 4 DVD's and Windows just 1? |
| 10:02.06 | petemc | the complete package collection is a lot more than 4 dvds |
| 10:02.43 | ThePendulum | I just need enough to install it properly without needing to download additional files before I am running Debian correctly. I can download any file as soon as Debian is running, but I need to get it installed first |
| 10:02.50 | ikrabbe | ThePendulum: because windows has one tool for one purpose and linux has several tools for much more use cases, you would never think of while using windows. |
| 10:03.26 | ThePendulum | ikrabbe: Not sure what the 'one' purpose of Windows should be. I'm using it for anything I can think of possible with a computer these days |
| 10:03.38 | ThePendulum | Anyway, it's not about windows |
| 10:04.15 | ikrabbe | ThePendulum: sorry each purpose, though the only real purpose to have a windows for is playing games |
| 10:04.18 | ThePendulum | Ubuntu can be installed offline as well, using just a CD |
| 10:05.20 | ThePendulum | ikrabbe: True, media and games. That's the only reason I didn't use a linux distro before getting a second PC. I like music, movies and virtual reality, besides web development, and linux was just great for web development |
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| 10:05.56 | ThePendulum | I don't often play games, but when I do, I want them to satisfy me :P |
| 10:06.44 | ikrabbe | thats what boot managers are good for: one computer, several systems |
| 10:06.54 | ThePendulum | That's basically just a BIOS |
| 10:07.00 | ThePendulum | But I don't want to reboot my PC just to play a game |
| 10:07.25 | ThePendulum | Even if it's just 3 seconds to reboot, I'll have to close all my programs just to play a game for ten minutes |
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| 10:07.35 | tvm | just plays games in dosbox, virtualbox, wine |
| 10:07.42 | ikrabbe | dosbox :D |
| 10:07.52 | ThePendulum | DOSBox <3 |
| 10:07.56 | ikrabbe | elite works fine still he? |
| 10:08.09 | ThePendulum | Wine doesn't really run that well on modern games : |
| 10:08.17 | ThePendulum | It does work, but it decreased a lot in quality |
| 10:08.25 | tvm | dunno, i don't play anything recent anyways. |
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| 10:08.58 | ThePendulum | But my old PC will have Debian/Ubuntu to satisfy you linux folks :P |
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| 10:09.07 | ThePendulum | Anyway, I have to leave. Thanks for your support so far |
| 10:09.08 | ThePendulum | Cheers |
| 10:11.45 | hroi | could somebody talk me through resizing my root partition vit lvm |
| 10:12.22 | hroi | the man pages are really confusing me, talking about "in use by LVM" or "in use by LVM2" .. |
| 10:12.46 | hroi | where and how can LVM be using my partitions |
| 10:13.00 | ikrabbe | I think LVM=LVM2 in most contexts |
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| 10:13.19 | hroi | I just want to do "resize /dev/sda1 blabla" |
| 10:13.34 | fbh | Is the partition already in LVM? |
| 10:13.42 | hroi | but in one tutorial I see the guy unmounting the volume first |
| 10:13.50 | filePeter | hroi: If you want to make it smaller you want to reduce the filesystem first, than the LV itâs on⦠|
| 10:13.51 | hroi | how on earth can I unmount my root partition |
| 10:14.07 | fbh | hroi: Is it in LVM already? |
| 10:14.16 | hroi | fbh: how can it be in LVM, |
| 10:14.18 | hroi | ? |
| 10:14.24 | hroi | fbh: I dont get the lngo |
| 10:14.27 | hroi | lingo |
| 10:14.38 | petemc | do you currently use lvm? |
| 10:14.45 | fbh | write "df"... what's the "Filesystem" path? |
| 10:14.48 | hroi | petemc: I just installed it thats it |
| 10:14.53 | fbh | the first path to the disk, what is that? |
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| 10:15.35 | hroi | its / is in /dev/sda1 |
| 10:15.42 | fbh | Then it is not using LVM |
| 10:15.50 | fbh | Then you cannot do it without downtime |
| 10:16.04 | hroi | fbh: which is ok |
| 10:16.07 | ikrabbe | and another partition |
| 10:16.23 | fbh | So you want to migrate to LVM? |
| 10:16.55 | hroi | fbh: ehm, I just want a regular linux machine with a slightly larger root partition |
| 10:17.11 | fbh | Is it a physical or virtual server? |
| 10:17.19 | hroi | fbh: its virtual |
| 10:17.23 | hroi | fbh: server |
| 10:17.34 | hroi | fbh: on vmware |
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| 10:18.48 | fbh | Okay, and since it does not use LVM, resizing the disk can be quite complicated. What I would do was e.g. creating a new vdisk for /var, thus moving some disk space away from / |
| 10:19.11 | fbh | OR, i would reinstall and use LVM! With LVM you can simply assign a new disk, add it to the volume group and resize the logical volume. |
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| 10:19.45 | fbh | and with moving disk space, i of course mean moving content. |
| 10:19.48 | hroi | fbh: wish my system admins had told me that to begin with. |
| 10:19.56 | ikrabbe | I think vmware can resize devices too |
| 10:20.05 | hroi | ikrabbe: only the device |
| 10:20.11 | hroi | ikrabbe: the volume |
| 10:20.13 | ikrabbe | then you should be able to simply use resize2fs |
| 10:20.13 | fbh | ikrabbe: Yeah, it can, but you still need to resize the file system as well |
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| 10:20.33 | ikrabbe | (take care when shrinking!) |
| 10:20.40 | hroi | no shrinking being done |
| 10:20.46 | fbh | Better advice: don't shrink. ever. :p |
| 10:20.56 | hroi | however, my /dev/sda1 is not contiguous to the extra free space |
| 10:21.13 | hroi | cant see how it can expand into an eary on the other side of the volume |
| 10:21.18 | hroi | area |
| 10:21.38 | fbh | How big is your / partition? |
| 10:22.06 | hroi | 8 GB |
| 10:22.20 | hroi | Want a few extra GB for safety |
| 10:22.25 | fbh | And the stuff that fills up the disk - where is that? /home, /var? |
| 10:22.38 | hroi | I might rip that from the /usr/local which is contiguous to / |
| 10:22.53 | hroi | only / |
| 10:23.14 | fbh | So you put files direcly in the root (/) that takes up disk space? :S |
| 10:23.15 | hroi | the /home /usr/local /tmp are isolated |
| 10:23.39 | hroi | the /var took up space, I had to run apt-get clean to fix it a littlebit |
| 10:23.55 | hroi | the /var is on / |
| 10:23.59 | fbh | create a new partition, and put /var on it. |
| 10:23.59 | hroi | unfortunately |
| 10:24.06 | fbh | And use LVM! |
| 10:24.07 | hroi | fbh, ok |
| 10:24.16 | hroi | LVM next time |
| 10:24.41 | hroi | I mean I cant just use LVM all of a sudden, right for one single partition |
| 10:24.48 | hroi | I need to do all or nothing right |
| 10:24.54 | fbh | why not now? It's really easy.. pvcreate, for adding the disk to lvm. vgcreate to create the volume group and then lvcreate to make the partition. |
| 10:24.56 | fbh | Yeah you cann. |
| 10:25.33 | hroi | fbh: ok, thanks, this is really useful info... Im going to yell at my system admins now |
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| 10:26.34 | fbh | and if /var runs out of disk, you simply add another disk and use pvcreate to add the disk, then vgextend to add the new disk to the volume group and lvextend to add the disk space to thge partition.. and last, a simpole resize2fs will so an on-line resize of the file system (given that you use ext3 or ext4) |
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| 10:40.20 | sephii | hey there, I started to install a package on my server but then I realized I was going to install it on the wrong server so I killed dpkg (which I guess is a bad idea) while it was in the debconf state. Now when I try to purge the package, dpkg wants me to install the package before removing it, which of course I don't want to do. Is there anything I can do? |
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| 10:40.53 | ompaul | sephii: finish the install and uninstall is the cleanest way forward |
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| 10:42.10 | Iridos | specially as the install might do some things that the uninstall excepts to find... |
| 10:42.43 | Iridos | don't see why you don't want to finish installing it... all files are already there, just the final script didn't run... |
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| 10:42.46 | hichamat | apt-cache search [pkg] -> how to search just into package name and NOT description ? |
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| 10:43.14 | ompaul | apt-cache search pkg | cut -d" " -f1 |
| 10:43.30 | ompaul | hichamat: ^^ |
| 10:43.35 | Iridos | apt-cache search --names-only |
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| 10:44.07 | hichamat | Iridos: ompaul thanks |
| 10:44.10 | Iridos | or read "man apt-cache" and find it yourself |
| 10:44.15 | ompaul | apt has too many bloody options :) |
| 10:44.34 | Iridos | and I think you misunderstood the question :) |
| 10:44.36 | Iridos | or me |
| 10:44.52 | fasta | The 4Front OSS4 Debian package for x86-64 at least do not work and I cannot uninstall them. (It just hangs.) |
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| 10:45.23 | fasta | How can I remove it in some other way? |
| 10:45.37 | ompaul | what is the package name |
| 10:45.50 | fasta | ompaul: oss-linux |
| 10:45.56 | sep | on a machine with 2 nic's in bond0, with vlan's on, one vlan with ip for management and multiple others in bridge for virtual machines with libvirt +qemu-kvm; I get errors with "bond0.13: received packet with own address as source address" ; files and logs on http://paste.debian.net/130371/ ; googeling suggested setting diferent mac addersses on the bridges, but that does not seam to have changed anything. ; anyone have suggestions for how to continue trou |
| 10:45.56 | sep | bleshooting ? |
| 10:46.00 | Iridos | ompaul, --names-only means only the names are searched for your keywords |
| 10:46.18 | sep | debian squeeze with libvirt+kernel from squeeze-backports. but same problem on pure squeeze |
| 10:46.29 | ompaul | Iridos: doh yeah |
| 10:46.36 | sephii | ompaul: but I think the package is broken... will I be able to uninstall it nevertheless? |
| 10:46.48 | ompaul | sephii: finish installing it |
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| 10:46.57 | ompaul | if you install it right |
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| 10:47.28 | ompaul | if not who knows what you have to do - something not in a predictable state - read the install scripts and post install scripts and slowly unpick all the stuff done |
| 10:47.30 | ompaul | yuk |
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| 10:48.28 | sephii | ompaul: i think I don't have the choice... thanks for the help |
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| 10:48.52 | ompaul | sephii: apt-get install package name -- or apt-get -f install |
| 10:49.05 | Iridos | sephii, as it sounds like a 3rd-party package, we don't know. But for any packages regularly in debian stable, I would say it would |
| 10:49.28 | ompaul | sephii: get your install fixed else you did something you did not tell us about and we can't really predict what might happen in that case |
| 10:49.53 | Mmike | I wanted to set up debian6 system on two HDDs in raid1, but I wanted to have one mdadm device partitioned with gpt on it. So I created two msdos partitions on each drive, one for md device, and one for swap. I created mdraid1, partitioned it (5 partitions, /, /var, /usr, /home, /tmp), debian installed, but grub failed to install, saying that /dev/sda is not valid device. What was I doing wrong? |
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| 10:49.58 | Iridos | fasta, best not to install broken 3rd-party packages... oh well |
| 10:50.04 | Iridos | !tell fasta -about postrm |
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| 10:50.45 | fasta | Iridos: the Debian version is broken too, btw. |
| 10:50.56 | fasta | Iridos: but at least it can be uninstalled. |
| 10:51.33 | Iridos | there's no package of that name in debian... |
| 10:51.42 | Iridos | there's oss4-* |
| 10:51.45 | sephii | Iridos: yes it's a 3rd party package |
| 10:52.08 | ompaul | sephii: you need to ask them how to get out of the whole they put you in in that case |
| 10:52.34 | fasta | Iridos: oss4-dkms is in Debian. |
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| 10:53.20 | fasta | Iridos: also, I wouldn't try to use something else, if ALSA would be a good system. |
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| 10:54.53 | ws_ | does the debian cd or dvd come with NetworkManager / wicd and a compiler??? |
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| 11:03.34 | nyuszika7h | Hi, is it possible to upgrade to Sid after installing Debian? |
| 11:04.02 | joltcan | nyuszika7h: Yes |
| 11:04.16 | nyuszika7h | joltcan: Nice, how? |
| 11:04.21 | joltcan | nyuszika7h: But beware, there is no easy downgrade |
| 11:04.56 | nyuszika7h | No problem, I'm running Debian in a virtual machine only yet |
| 11:05.24 | nyuszika7h | :O |
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| 11:05.32 | nyuszika7h | dpkg, where did you go |
| 11:05.33 | joltcan | nyuszika7h: change your apt sources to say sid, and look in the debian manual for apt-get dist-upgrade pretty much |
| 11:05.33 | dpkg | nyuszika7h: bugger all, i dunno |
| 11:05.42 | nyuszika7h | :D |
| 11:05.46 | nyuszika7h | joltcan: ok, thanks |
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| 11:06.22 | nyuszika7h | *sigh* 'Select and install software' step failed |
| 11:07.03 | joltcan | nyuszika7h: apt-get update etc as well. Please read the debian documentation for upgrading, there are usually some caviats that you should account fore |
| 11:07.06 | joltcan | -e |
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| 11:07.09 | Bushmills | nyuszika7h: you wouldn't exactly call sid an "upgrade!" |
| 11:07.29 | nyuszika7h | Bushmills: I know sid is unstable version |
| 11:07.38 | Bushmills | i'd debootstrap sid to a chroot |
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| 11:08.44 | Bushmills | ah. VM. fine too |
| 11:08.46 | nyuszika7h | it seems the installer fails to configure mono-gac |
| 11:08.54 | nyuszika7h | ideas on that? |
| 11:09.00 | Bushmills | "sid" :P |
| 11:09.22 | nyuszika7h | I'm not sure if it's sid installer |
| 11:09.43 | Bushmills | i think the proper approach with sid is to fix it |
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| 11:11.21 | Bushmills | inspect dependencies weirdnesses. look at pre- and postinstall scripts |
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| 11:15.25 | nyuszika7h | Bushmills: How could I do that? |
| 11:15.37 | Bushmills | by using eyes and brain |
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| 11:15.49 | nyuszika7h | sighs |
| 11:16.01 | nyuszika7h | I don't even know where are those scripts |
| 11:16.16 | Bushmills | "seems the installer fails to configure mono-gac" - how much more detailed suggestions do you expect :P |
| 11:16.52 | Bushmills | "don't even know..." are you sure that sid is right for you? |
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| 11:18.29 | cradam | can anyone help with this: E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf) |
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| 11:20.22 | nyuszika7h | I'm not sure if it's Sid, I got the image from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 11:20.35 | Bushmills | that's not sid |
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| 11:20.59 | nyuszika7h | you said I can upgrade after installation... but what is it if not Sid? |
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| 11:21.18 | ||__\\\ | you said you wanted to upgrade to sid after installation |
| 11:21.19 | Bushmills | actually, i said that you wouldn't call sid an "upgrade" |
| 11:21.23 | simonlnu | the iso is not a sid |
| 11:21.24 | cnz | can someone explain why I get the following error when I try to sudo apt-get install <packagename> http://pastebin.com/dGMm72Ax |
| 11:21.36 | cnz | I do have the user in the /etc/sudoers file |
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| 11:21.56 | nyuszika7h | ||__\\\: I know, but the installer fails, it stops after 'configuring mono-gac', maybe there's a problem with that |
| 11:21.56 | Iridos | nyuszika7h, "/msg dpkg postinstall" for the location of the scripts |
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| 11:22.20 | Bushmills | if it stops at configurung, then yes, there's a problem with that |
| 11:23.00 | cradam | doesnt vim come with most linuxes |
| 11:23.10 | Iridos | nyuszika7h, the image is stable. There are no install images for sid, sometimes(?) for testing. |
| 11:23.12 | Woodi | cradam: maybe http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535190 |
| 11:23.12 | cnz | cradam vi does |
| 11:23.18 | Bushmills | "come with" in the sense of "is installable"? yes |
| 11:23.27 | cnz | vim is a different package |
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| 11:24.02 | cnz | vi doesn't handle arrow keys very well vim handles arrow keys and numberpad without wigging out |
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| 11:24.33 | Iridos | cnz, actually vi was proprietary IIRC... it's all vim, only there's vim-tiny which behaves as crappy as vi in many respects |
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| 11:25.05 | Woodi | i have arrows problem with vim-minimal on debian; pkg "vim" works better for me |
| 11:25.13 | cnz | Iridos: yeah, |
| 11:25.21 | cnz | Woodi: yep that's why I install vim right away |
| 11:25.37 | cnz | this is the first time I have experienced this issue though |
| 11:25.40 | MaXim_ | nvi was created to replace the proprietary vi |
| 11:25.48 | Woodi | cnz: isn't debian lovely ? :) |
| 11:25.50 | cnz | every other time I have installed debian it auto added me to the sudo file |
| 11:26.01 | cnz | Woodi: it is lol |
| 11:26.19 | cnz | it's not a huge issue but it is, cause my usb drive doesn't mount on login |
| 11:26.26 | cnz | and I can't mount it with my user |
| 11:26.37 | MaXim_ | the vi included with debian is nvi |
| 11:26.39 | Bushmills | debian auto-added you to sudo file? that's highly irregular behaviour :P |
| 11:26.51 | Bushmills | could it be that you confuse debian with, say, ubuntu? |
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| 11:27.15 | cnz | Bushmills: lol yeah, but I never had this issue before with debian |
| 11:27.20 | cnz | when I added myself to the sudo file |
| 11:27.29 | cnz | was able to run sudo afterwards |
| 11:27.34 | MaXim_ | debian doesn't even have sudo by default |
| 11:27.38 | MaXim_ | you have to install it |
| 11:27.40 | nyuszika7h | why is 'apt-get' unknown command in interactive shell in the installer? |
| 11:27.58 | simonlnu | because it's not installed in d-i |
| 11:27.59 | cnz | MaXim_: yes sudo is installed |
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| 11:28.30 | cnz | if it wasn't installed it wouldn't let me do sudo :) |
| 11:28.40 | MaXim_ | yea |
| 11:28.40 | cnz | as in my pastebin it shows it's installed |
| 11:28.41 | Woodi | cnz: big graphics environments like kde/gnome probably do some automagic with usb. openbox not for example |
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| 11:28.44 | MaXim_ | i don't think it auto-adds though |
| 11:29.06 | cnz | MaXim_: please read what I have said |
| 11:29.11 | cnz | I added myself to it manually |
| 11:29.11 | MaXim_ | that error you get |
| 11:29.16 | cnz | Woodi: I am using gnome right now |
| 11:29.26 | MaXim_ | it's because sudo is not setting the environment correctly |
| 11:29.39 | MaXim_ | are you using sid? |
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| 11:29.49 | cnz | what's sid? |
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| 11:30.01 | simonlnu | !sid |
| 11:30.01 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 11:30.17 | Woodi | sid is more unstable version of testing :) |
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| 11:30.25 | cnz | MaXim_: I have this issue in 6.0 and wheezy |
| 11:30.45 | MaXim_ | i think it's a bug |
| 11:30.50 | MaXim_ | started happening to me recently too |
| 11:30.57 | cnz | aahh ok |
| 11:30.59 | MaXim_ | the path is not being set correctly |
| 11:31.05 | cnz | that would make sense why I havent' experienced it before |
| 11:31.06 | MaXim_ | just su first |
| 11:31.11 | MaXim_ | sudo does not work |
| 11:31.15 | cnz | yeah it's not a huge issue |
| 11:31.24 | cnz | well it kinda is because I can't mount my usb drive |
| 11:31.32 | cnz | and suing to mount it is a pain in the ass |
| 11:31.42 | MaXim_ | if you are using gnome |
| 11:31.48 | simonlnu | Woodi: not of testing, more like than testing. it's not called unstable for S&G ... |
| 11:31.49 | MaXim_ | it doesn't use sudo for that anyway |
| 11:32.00 | MaXim_ | it uses console-kit-daemon or something |
| 11:32.10 | cnz | ok |
| 11:32.12 | MaXim_ | your ck policy is probably buggered |
| 11:32.47 | Mmike | !gpt |
| 11:32.49 | dpkg | GPT (GUID Partition Table) is a disk partition format frequently used by firmware compliant with the Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI). util-linux-ng's <fdisk> does not support GPT, ask me about <parted>. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-gpt/ |
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| 11:33.04 | Mmike | !parted |
| 11:33.05 | dpkg | GNU Parted is a partition editor, used for creation, destruction, resizing and copying, including the associated file system within. I (Mongoose) used it to resize a 10G partition to 15G without losing my data. Supports Apple and sparc partition tables, can only shrink HFS/HFS+ filesystems. http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/ #parted on irc.freenode.net. |
| 11:33.22 | MaXim_ | lately there has been dodgy console-kits |
| 11:33.32 | cnz | MaXim_: how do I check the policy |
| 11:33.37 | MaXim_ | sometimes people can't mount disks or shutdown/logoff |
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| 11:33.52 | cnz | I haven't used gnome in like long ass time, use to unity from ubuntu and xfce |
| 11:34.13 | MaXim_ | it isn't just a gnome problem |
| 11:34.22 | MaXim_ | it affects anything that uses CK such as xfce |
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| 11:34.39 | cnz | ok, well how can I check the policy |
| 11:34.49 | MaXim_ | trying to remember hehe |
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| 11:34.56 | cnz | :) |
| 11:35.01 | cnz | gotta love that right |
| 11:35.37 | MaXim_ | what happens when you type pkaction |
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| 11:35.58 | MaXim_ | should see lots of entries like org.freedesktop.udisks. |
| 11:36.01 | MaXim_ | and whatever |
| 11:36.04 | cnz | spits out a bunch of org.* |
| 11:36.05 | galaxyAbstractor | hey |
| 11:36.25 | MaXim_ | any udisks? |
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| 11:36.36 | cnz | a bunch |
| 11:36.57 | MaXim_ | specifically like drive-eject |
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| 11:37.11 | MaXim_ | drive-detach |
| 11:37.13 | MaXim_ | etc |
| 11:37.22 | cnz | yes |
| 11:37.28 | cnz | and drive-eject |
| 11:37.35 | MaXim_ | ah |
| 11:37.39 | galaxyAbstractor | I am trying to tar every file owned by a certain user using xargs like this: find /shared/ -user myuser | xargs tar -rf backup.tar, but it wont work as some of the directories and files contains spaces and xargs sends them with the spaces to tar |
| 11:37.40 | MaXim_ | strange then, should work |
| 11:37.45 | cradam | thanks Woodi |
| 11:37.56 | hroi | anybody use emacs on debian here? |
| 11:37.56 | cnz | yeah I dunno |
| 11:38.05 | galaxyAbstractor | how can I make xargs put "" around the path? |
| 11:38.05 | MaXim_ | where are you trying to mount it |
| 11:38.07 | hroi | it really bugs me that emacs opens with split windows |
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| 11:38.20 | MaXim_ | in nautilus? |
| 11:38.35 | cnz | if thaat's what the file manager is called |
| 11:38.37 | cnz | then yes |
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| 11:38.41 | cnz | I will pb the error |
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| 11:39.04 | MaXim_ | hmm im not in real shape to help |
| 11:39.07 | MaXim_ | since i dont really use gnome |
| 11:39.10 | cnz | http://pastebin.com/Lx0kEL8P |
| 11:39.15 | MaXim_ | i havent used it for over 8 years.. |
| 11:39.22 | hroi | emacs? |
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| 11:39.34 | MaXim_ | ah, ntfs disk |
| 11:39.41 | cnz | yeah |
| 11:39.42 | wols | cnz: that error is very self explanatory, no? |
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| 11:39.57 | galaxyAbstractor | so there is a directory called "/shared/shared files", so xargs sends the path from the find as "shared/shared" and "files/afilenamehere" |
| 11:40.15 | cnz | wols: not really mind is a little fried |
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| 11:40.44 | nuked|lab | galaxyAbstractor: it's not xargs causing the problem, it's find; try tar -rf backup.tar $(find /shared -user myuser -printf ...) -- i cannot remember the print runes to find, manpage.. |
| 11:40.59 | cnz | wols: well it explains it, but then it falls back on the sudo problem I am having |
| 11:41.14 | MaXim_ | can you open /etc/fuse.conf |
| 11:41.25 | cnz | my user account should have the privilages |
| 11:41.30 | MaXim_ | and check if user_allow_other is enabled? |
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| 11:41.37 | MaXim_ | and check if allow_other exists |
| 11:41.39 | cnz | MaXim_: no |
| 11:41.43 | MaXim_ | ic |
| 11:41.50 | MaXim_ | make sure those lines exist and not comment |
| 11:41.52 | cnz | no the is to I can't open fuse.conf |
| 11:41.56 | MaXim_ | oh |
| 11:42.00 | MaXim_ | you can only open it as root |
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| 11:42.03 | wols | cnz: which sudo problem? that you lack PATH settings inside sudo? |
| 11:42.05 | galaxyAbstractor | nuked|lab: that leads to same thing, but I'll check the manpage |
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| 11:42.50 | cnz | check to see if allow_others exists in where? |
| 11:42.57 | MaXim_ | in /etc/fuse.conf |
| 11:42.59 | cnz | wols: basically. |
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| 11:43.26 | cnz | oh ok so uncomment that out then? |
| 11:43.43 | MaXim_ | yea |
| 11:43.43 | Iridos | galaxyAbstractor, use -exec with the find... |
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| 11:43.57 | MaXim_ | and add 'allow_others' if it's not there |
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| 11:44.38 | cnz | user_allow_other |
| 11:44.38 | cnz | allow_others |
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| 11:44.44 | MaXim_ | and finally |
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| 11:44.50 | MaXim_ | make sure the mount point is writable |
| 11:44.58 | MaXim_ | which i think is the /media directory |
| 11:45.39 | cnz | yeah it is |
| 11:45.41 | nuked|lab | galaxyAbstractor: or try the -print0 option of find and -0 option to xargs |
| 11:45.43 | Iridos | galaxyAbstractor, and if you want to pipe find output safely, you have to use the -print0 option (but needs a receiving option on the other side, for xargs this is -0) |
| 11:45.53 | cnz | what's weird is the damn wd smartware virtual cd mounts just fine |
| 11:45.55 | nuked|lab | heh ;) |
| 11:46.02 | cnz | but the actually hard drive wont' |
| 11:46.16 | Iridos | "find .... -exec" is better, though |
| 11:46.25 | wols | fuse isn't iso9660. different thing. and nothing weird at all about it |
| 11:46.44 | Iridos | and since there's the + option to exec, there's no use whatsoever for pipe+xargs |
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| 11:47.00 | MaXim_ | fuse is a necessary evil |
| 11:47.22 | MaXim_ | the performance overheads are ridiculous |
| 11:48.06 | galaxyAbstractor | thanks it works :D |
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| 11:49.59 | cnz | MaXim_: what I don't get is when I was runing debian about a month ago, I had none of these issues |
| 11:50.10 | cnz | why would I be getting them now? |
| 11:50.35 | MaXim_ | who knows |
| 11:50.42 | wols | cause your sudo config is somehow bad |
| 11:50.45 | Iridos | well, he should |
| 11:50.50 | wols | did you set up sudo on install? |
| 11:51.05 | cnz | wols: it installed sudo with the inistall if that's what you're asking |
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| 11:51.19 | MaXim_ | aside from if you're using testing or sid then "problems" are bound to happen |
| 11:51.21 | cnz | and after it was complete I added my user to the sudoer file |
| 11:51.30 | MaXim_ | if you are using squeeze then questions could be asked |
| 11:51.32 | cnz | MaXim_: happens with 6.0 too |
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| 11:52.18 | MaXim_ | i am just a user, so I have no more of an idea than you :P |
| 11:52.32 | wols | cnz: no it's not. did you install testing directly or stable first |
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| 11:53.40 | cnz | wols: stable |
| 11:53.46 | cnz | then ran dist-upgrade |
| 11:54.04 | MaXim_ | dist upgrade is known to break stuff |
| 11:54.07 | cnz | and wols yes I ahd the same issue with squeeze before upgrading |
| 11:54.11 | MaXim_ | that is why they have safe-upgrade |
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| 11:54.19 | wols | for sudo you should have answered to not use a root account while installing. then it would have been set up correctly for you all along |
| 11:54.32 | MaXim_ | wols: there's an option like that? o.o |
| 11:54.36 | wols | MaXim_: safe-upgrading to testing would be a stupid idea, if it even works |
| 11:54.44 | MaXim_ | oh |
| 11:54.47 | MaXim_ | you upgraded to testing |
| 11:54.49 | MaXim_ | nvm heh |
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| 11:55.03 | cnz | wols: that's an ubuntu option? |
| 11:55.11 | cnz | I didn't know they had that option for debian because it didn't ask me |
| 11:55.19 | wols | no it's not. and under ubuntu it wouldn't be an option either |
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| 11:55.25 | wols | squeeze installer does ask |
| 11:55.42 | cnz | then my installer must've been jacked up |
| 11:55.53 | cnz | cause it asked for root password, then user account name and password |
| 11:56.29 | MaXim_ | that reminds me heh |
| 11:56.43 | MaXim_ | some months ago tried to install wheezy on my ancient PIII laptop |
| 11:57.03 | MaXim_ | but the installer locks up trying to access a non-existent floppy disk drive |
| 11:57.16 | cnz | I ran wheezy just a month ago month and half max and didn't have any of these issues |
| 11:57.39 | MaXim_ | im having the sudo problem you mention |
| 11:57.43 | MaXim_ | but im on sid.. |
| 11:58.17 | MaXim_ | the install is from woody -> sid ever since |
| 11:58.36 | MaXim_ | wait |
| 11:58.53 | MaXim_ | etch :P |
| 11:59.17 | cnz | wols: what do you recommand that I do for these issues, I really don't want to go back to ubuntu |
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| 11:59.56 | MaXim_ | file a bug report i guess |
| 12:00.03 | MaXim_ | if one doesn't exist already |
| 12:00.15 | lazka | How can I pin by origin (debian multimedia inthis case)? |
| 12:00.20 | cnz | but it's happening in squeeze too |
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| 12:00.38 | lazka | Pin: origin "www.debian-multimedia.org" doesn't work |
| 12:01.20 | wols | cnz: I don't use sudo so I don't know how to configure it. I suggest you install a debian squeeze in a VM, let it up set up sudo for you on install and then look how it does it |
| 12:01.33 | wols | you can copy the config then. alternatively: reinstall |
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| 12:02.06 | MaXim_ | there is a file named /usr/local/etc/sudoers.sample |
| 12:02.10 | cnz | hhmm it should configure it the same since it installed it during install I didnt' install it manually |
| 12:02.23 | MaXim_ | maybe you can copy that and make the changes you are sure you need |
| 12:02.55 | MaXim_ | wait..that's FreeBSD |
| 12:03.09 | MaXim_ | /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples/sudoers |
| 12:03.11 | MaXim_ | for debian :P |
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| 12:04.36 | cnz | MaXim_: yeah I have already set it up |
| 12:04.45 | cnz | I think I will just wipe the drive and reinstall |
| 12:04.59 | MaXim_ | if it still happens then i guess it really is a bug |
| 12:05.04 | MaXim_ | thats all.. |
| 12:05.53 | _Qman | Hello, could anyone tell me if there is an easy way to make apache be able to read file that are nobody:nogroup on a server? (whitout getting the daemon to run as root) |
| 12:05.56 | MaXim_ | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=639323 |
| 12:06.56 | MaXim_ | hmm, the problem is that when you upgraded sudo to the latest package, you kept the old config file |
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| 12:08.22 | cnz | yep |
| 12:08.24 | MaXim_ | to fix: |
| 12:08.26 | cnz | that's exactly what I did |
| 12:08.37 | cnz | i did it before too and it didn't do anything |
| 12:08.39 | MaXim_ | as root, type visudo |
| 12:08.46 | MaXim_ | add the following line: |
| 12:08.49 | MaXim_ | Defaults secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin" |
| 12:09.15 | cnz | Defaults env_reset |
| 12:09.17 | cnz | bingo |
| 12:09.24 | cnz | it screws up the defaults |
| 12:09.41 | MaXim_ | put the new line after that one |
| 12:09.51 | MaXim_ | changes should take effect the next time you try to use sudo |
| 12:09.58 | MaXim_ | i've just fixed it for myself :P |
| 12:10.13 | Iridos | _Qman, make the files/directories world-readable (and the directories all executable for "all") |
| 12:10.14 | cnz | yeah |
| 12:10.16 | cnz | you beat me to it |
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| 12:10.21 | cnz | I was reading what cxaused it |
| 12:10.23 | cnz | ty for help |
| 12:10.57 | MaXim_ | not really a bug i guess |
| 12:11.09 | MaXim_ | but just failure to merge configuration files |
| 12:11.26 | cnz | which is a bug |
| 12:11.33 | cnz | because it didn't do it about 2months ago |
| 12:11.44 | MaXim_ | you chose not to merge the new config file :P |
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| 12:12.40 | MaXim_ | that's why when you upgrade an OS like FreeBSD, the instructions explicitly tell you to run mergemaster to update the config files |
| 12:12.49 | galaxyAbstractor | hmmm, I already got 2 partitions but I want to make 3 more, how is this possible? I see that both primary and extended options has max of 4 combined?? |
| 12:13.18 | cnz | MaXim_: I've never ran fbsd as a desktop |
| 12:13.22 | MaXim_ | galaxyAbstractor: MBR can have a maximum of 4 primary partitions |
| 12:13.27 | MaXim_ | cnz: it was just an example |
| 12:13.40 | MaXim_ | debian deals with it by asking if you want to merge the config file or leave it alone |
| 12:13.59 | MaXim_ | either way, it's a good idea not to ignore the questions |
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| 12:14.01 | galaxyAbstractor | MaXim_: yeah I know so I tried to make them extended, right? But it seems to have the same limit? |
| 12:14.03 | Iridos | MaXim_, debian will upgrade your config files if they have not been changed and ask you what to do if they have |
| 12:14.06 | cnz | yeah, iwas just stating about not running fbsd so dunno about how it does things |
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| 12:14.15 | cnz | MaXim_: yeah im just going to merge em from now on |
| 12:14.19 | MaXim_ | good idea |
| 12:14.28 | MaXim_ | i was lazy too |
| 12:14.30 | MaXim_ | just said no |
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| 12:14.36 | MaXim_ | that's why it happens to me too lol |
| 12:14.46 | Iridos | MaXim_, it doesn't merge, though... as for an edited config file it's not clear what "merge" would mean |
| 12:14.51 | MaXim_ | galaxyAbstractor: you can make 3 primary partitions |
| 12:15.15 | MaXim_ | then an extended one that contains extra logical ones to get what you need |
| 12:15.24 | galaxyAbstractor | yeah but #1 and #2 is already defined, leaving only #3 and #4 left? |
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| 12:15.36 | Iridos | so? |
| 12:16.00 | simonlnu | dpkg doesn't merge conffiles, but moves them to dpkg-dist or dpkg-old depending on action; there's also ucf, which does support diff/merge |
| 12:16.00 | dpkg | simonlnu: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 12:16.06 | cnz | MaXim_: lol yeah i was like eh I don't want to redo, just keep the file lol |
| 12:16.08 | simonlnu | dpkg: yay |
| 12:16.08 | dpkg | yay! |
| 12:16.15 | Iridos | so polite now :) |
| 12:16.22 | MaXim_ | ah right |
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| 12:16.40 | MaXim_ | dpkg merging would be cool |
| 12:16.41 | dpkg | MaXim_: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 12:16.56 | simonlnu | i think ucf does it better, but that's personal opinion |
| 12:16.58 | cnz | yes |
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| 12:17.13 | MaXim_ | that's probably why i say no then |
| 12:17.15 | simonlnu | i don't mind merging them myself ;) |
| 12:17.19 | cnz | should ask you to merge and give you an note saying, if you don't merge you could fuck things up |
| 12:17.27 | MaXim_ | to avoid bothering to check what the changes were |
| 12:18.06 | simonlnu | diff -u /foo/bar.conf /foo/bar.conf.dpkg-new |
| 12:18.46 | MaXim_ | debian needs something like mergemaster then :P |
| 12:18.54 | simonlnu | then -new gets renamed to dpkg-dist (i say 'no') to get the maitainer copy |
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| 12:19.03 | simonlnu | maint* |
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| 12:19.34 | simonlnu | well, they do that that way because otherwise it's a violation of policy |
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| 12:19.53 | simonlnu | don't mod conffiles without user action, or somesuch |
| 12:20.15 | MaXim_ | well even a tool such as mergemaster must be invoked manually |
| 12:20.33 | MaXim_ | and it will prompt you when there are conflicts |
| 12:20.39 | simonlnu | indeed (i've run fbsd pure, and debian's) |
| 12:21.05 | Iridos | MaXim_, well, feel free to implement a system that is more automatic, but has as little machine-caused errors as the current one and package it for debian... |
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| 12:21.56 | simonlnu | you could integrate it with extant tools too |
| 12:22.05 | cnz | on MaXim_ btw that fixed sudo for me too |
| 12:22.17 | MaXim_ | cool |
| 12:22.22 | MaXim_ | nice to know everything worked out |
| 12:22.27 | cnz | now just to fix my mounting error |
| 12:22.32 | rudi_s | Hi. Is it possible to disable a service (I do it with update-rc.d -f xxx remove) in a way that a package update won't reinstall the files in rc*.d? |
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| 12:22.56 | simonlnu | i moved my stuff to the /etc/sudoers.d for sudo |
| 12:23.06 | MaXim_ | that too |
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| 12:23.16 | MaXim_ | that way it doesn't matter what heppens to sudoers |
| 12:23.19 | simonlnu | i have a rather elaborate set up on certain machines |
| 12:23.53 | cnz | cnz@walle:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Datastore1 |
| 12:23.53 | cnz | fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/Datastore1: No such file or directory |
| 12:23.56 | cnz | cnz@walle:~$ |
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| 12:24.06 | simonlnu | so mkdir it |
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| 12:24.09 | cnz | wops didn't mean to do that |
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| 12:24.21 | Iridos | rudi_s, if dpkgs configure step gives you an option to run it or not, it will just ask again on upgrade, I think |
| 12:24.36 | MaXim_ | spring rolling around again |
| 12:24.40 | MaXim_ | my room will turn into an oven |
| 12:24.45 | simonlnu | you can disable it |
| 12:24.52 | rudi_s | Iridos: Hm, it didn't ask. |
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| 12:24.58 | simonlnu | so you're in the southern hemisphere |
| 12:25.02 | cnz | simonlnu: do I need to give /media/Datastore1 any special permissions |
| 12:25.14 | cnz | MaXim_: spring is rolling around? it's just ending |
| 12:25.22 | cnz | are you near nz or austrillia? |
| 12:25.26 | MaXim_ | aust |
| 12:25.33 | cnz | damn Im good |
| 12:25.35 | simonlnu | no |
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| 12:25.54 | MaXim_ | lately been running my sun box 24/7 |
| 12:25.57 | MaXim_ | its like a little heater |
| 12:25.57 | simonlnu | 'Australia' ;p |
| 12:26.06 | cnz | yeah I can't spell |
| 12:26.09 | simonlnu | they do get hot... |
| 12:26.14 | cnz | MaXim_: I bet it's just like arizona |
| 12:26.26 | cnz | sweet, usb drivei mounted with sudo |
| 12:26.30 | Iridos | rudi_s, you could see if there is one if you run dpkg-reconfigure <package> ... else... dunno, depends on the package... look at the postinstall script if you want to know what it does and what it bases its decision on |
| 12:26.39 | simonlnu | ,info usbmount |
| 12:26.40 | judd | Package usbmount (admin, extra) in squeeze/i386: automatically mount and unmount USB mass storage devices. Version: 0.0.21; Size: 12.7k; Installed: 112k; Homepage: http://usbmount.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 12:26.53 | rudi_s | Iridos: Thanks, i'll have a look. |
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| 12:34.04 | galaxyAbstractor | hey again |
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| 12:35.08 | ro0t | #apache |
| 12:35.12 | galaxyAbstractor | so I managed to create an extended partition, and I understand that I should create 3 partitions under this one? It's /dev/sda3 but if I try fdisk /dev/sda3 it says "Unable to read /dev/sda3", what am I doing wrong? |
| 12:35.13 | ro0t | opps |
| 12:35.18 | cnz | MaXim_: question, when I look at cpuinfo, it only shows 800mhz instead of 3000mhz for my cpu's |
| 12:35.22 | cnz | any idea how to fix it |
| 12:36.42 | Coweater | cnz: do something cpu intensive (maybe watch a video) and check it, it should automatically adjust |
| 12:36.54 | wols | cnz: normal. this is speedstep. run something that actually uses your cpus, and it will go up |
| 12:37.02 | cnz | wols: nope |
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| 12:37.13 | wols | video use <10% of cpu nowadays |
| 12:37.30 | cnz | I even watched it during upgrading |
| 12:37.46 | cnz | opened up youtube and stuff it didn't move |
| 12:38.38 | wols | upgrading debian is totally I/O bound. so is youtube. run something like superpi, mprime, etc and then check again |
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| 12:38.58 | wols | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors and cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
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| 12:39.36 | cnz | it's on the one starting with an O |
| 12:39.42 | fasta | Why can't I just put in my USB microphone and use it immediately using ALSA? |
| 12:39.49 | cnz | is there a way to make it run at full speed at all times? |
| 12:40.03 | cnz | fasta: because usb mics fail |
| 12:40.24 | MaXim_ | alsa is garbage too |
| 12:40.31 | fasta | cnz: there is nothing wrong with the mic. |
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| 12:40.54 | fasta | I find it so disturbing that people always point to the hardware. |
| 12:40.57 | MaXim_ | it is an evil you'll have to learn to live with on linux |
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| 12:41.01 | fasta | I would say the software stinks. |
| 12:41.04 | ro0t | why i can't install php5 with apache2-mpm-worker by apt-get? it tells that i have to remove the mpm-worker and install mpm-prefork instead! any idea? |
| 12:41.06 | MaXim_ | unless your hardware is supported by OSS4 |
| 12:41.18 | wols | fasta: well, there are problems which are not the fault of linux at all |
| 12:41.28 | fasta | wols: not this one. |
| 12:41.34 | wols | fasta: and it is the hardware. the hardware is simply utter shit, that's all |
| 12:41.36 | fasta | Also, Linux works. |
| 12:41.40 | ro0t | ham5, still around? |
| 12:41.44 | fasta | It is just that ALSA doesn't. |
| 12:41.50 | MaXim_ | ALSA is linux :P |
| 12:41.54 | MaXim_ | or a part of it at least |
| 12:42.02 | fasta | I can see that it is recognized as a device in dmesg. |
| 12:42.12 | cnz | fasta: you're right, you're special and your usb mic is just the bomb |
| 12:42.15 | fasta | It is just that ALSA doesn't do anything with that. |
| 12:42.16 | wols | all of AC97 and above are. yes ALSA is shit too but most of the blame is on the hardware or rather the hardware maker |
| 12:42.31 | MaXim_ | fasta: what exactly is the problem |
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| 12:43.09 | fasta | MaXim_: 5023.803795] usb 4-1.7: Product: AK5370 does not show up in alsamixer. |
| 12:43.31 | fasta | MaXim_: I have used the device before on this machine, even with the same OS. |
| 12:43.46 | fasta | (and no, it is not 'broken') |
| 12:43.58 | MaXim_ | hm |
| 12:44.04 | MaXim_ | so doesn't show up when you hit F6? |
| 12:44.10 | fasta | MaXim_: no |
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| 12:45.15 | MaXim_ | does anything change if you type "alsa force-reload" as root? |
| 12:46.18 | fasta | MaXim_: no |
| 12:46.19 | Odaym | stop me if you've heard this one before..whenever I press the volume icon on my panel and press on Volume Control, I am logged out and I'm back at the login screen, just like when you would do "kill Xorg" |
| 12:46.40 | AL13N_work | can someone respond to my emails sent to security@debian.org ? |
| 12:46.54 | AL13N_work | regarding oldstable kernel updates? |
| 12:47.15 | MaXim_ | not sure what to suggest then |
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| 12:47.28 | MaXim_ | perhaps install OSS4 :P |
| 12:47.38 | fasta | MaXim_: I already did that, and it also doesn't work. |
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| 12:47.53 | fasta | MaXim_: in fact, I tried the Debian packaged version and it didn't work. |
| 12:48.01 | MaXim_ | yea that one is dodgy as i found out |
| 12:48.04 | MaXim_ | had to build it myself |
| 12:48.06 | fasta | MaXim_: then I installed their version, which also did not work. |
| 12:48.14 | fasta | MaXim_: and I also built it myself. |
| 12:48.20 | MaXim_ | hmm |
| 12:48.20 | fasta | MaXim_: conclusion: it is crap. |
| 12:48.31 | MaXim_ | only thing left to do is throw your comp out the window |
| 12:48.55 | fasta | MaXim_: or perhaps just get a Mac. |
| 12:49.10 | th0r | fasta: before you throw it out the window...you said you had used that hw on that computer with that OS before. What has changed since then? |
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| 12:49.42 | fasta | th0r: I rebooted the machine a few times and did experiments with oss4. |
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| 12:49.54 | fasta | th0r: all of which should have been deleted. |
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| 12:50.04 | fasta | th0r: and I reinstalled alsa, obviously. |
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| 12:50.30 | sephii | I just configured mutt and now I don't have anymore the mention "you have new mail" in my shell, where should I look for that? |
| 12:51.08 | th0r | fasta: well, when you buy the mac, I would recommend not doing experiments with oss4 with it |
| 12:51.59 | MaXim_ | apple hardware has high bludgeoning ratings |
| 12:52.03 | fasta | th0r: something tells me that a Mac also won't work. |
| 12:52.11 | MaXim_ | the edges are rather solid and sharp |
| 12:52.13 | fasta | Someone will find an excuse for it not working. |
| 12:52.26 | ikrabbe | sephii: the you have new mail thing is some shell function (I think its called msg or message or so) |
| 12:52.59 | ikrabbe | sephii: I think it also relies on MAILBOX or MAIL env variables |
| 12:53.15 | ikrabbe | sephii: maybe mutt has changed one of these |
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| 12:54.08 | sephii | ikrabbe: I changed to Maildir from mbox and I didn't update my MAIL env var that still points to /var/mail so I think that's the issue |
| 12:54.20 | ikrabbe | sephii: first try "mesg" in your terminal |
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| 12:55.23 | simonlnu | sephii: bingo |
| 12:55.24 | sephii | ikrabbe: "is y" |
| 12:55.45 | simonlnu | because of the change to maildir |
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| 12:57.59 | sephii | Ok so I exported MAILPATH which points to my ~/Maildir folder. Should I put this in my shell resource file? I mean, where is the MAIL env var set? |
| 12:58.33 | simonlnu | yes. there's system-wide, and user. you can put it in your shell rc files |
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| 13:00.02 | sephii | Ok thanks! |
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| 13:10.29 | Bauldrick | hi I'm trying to get sound working on this little server box, I got sound to play , but want to change volume etc... alsamixer (should i use that?) gives cannot open mixer: No such file or directory. Here is some gumf if it helps http://pastebin.com/2XZGh3Hh |
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| 13:11.04 | xf_merc | Guys, is there a quick way to nuke auto detection in xorg on Squeeze? It's causing massive problems with some system-specific drivers... |
| 13:11.49 | petemc | use a xorg config file |
| 13:12.06 | xf_merc | petemc: got one, but its reading that and then doing its own thing on top of it. |
| 13:12.18 | xf_merc | Trying to initialise drivers twice etc |
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| 13:12.59 | wols | xf_merc: you create a xorg.conf for the devices and only those drivers are used |
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| 13:17.30 | LemensTS | I have debian server with 2 nics. One wan, one lan (dhcp-server). Should i just do iptables manually to limit/route the trafficfrom the wan to the lan? |
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| 13:17.41 | mplabs | Hi all |
| 13:18.45 | boudiccas | LemensTS; what version of debian? |
| 13:18.46 | mplabs | does anyone know where dd will put it if I execute: dd if=foo.bin of=boot.img bs=512 count=1 seek=18 ? I bet it'll be in the first sector on track 2, but I'm not sure |
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| 13:19.33 | mplabs | (I mean, if you then use this image as a floppy disk) |
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| 13:20.25 | wols | mplabs: sector 0. not track 2 |
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| 13:21.10 | mplabs | wols, it says "seek=18" |
| 13:21.12 | wols | linux doesn't care about "tracks". a block device is a consecutive number of sectors. how said sectors are stored on the physical disk, is not linux' problem |
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| 13:21.39 | mplabs | well, then it'll be in sector 18 |
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| 13:21.59 | LemensTS | boudicas: debian 6 |
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| 13:22.51 | wols | mplabs: then I guess you are right, provided it's a 1,44MB flopy image |
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| 13:23.44 | wols | LemensTS: iptables is not for routing. you can limit with it (lartc.org) or you can use cgroups for that |
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| 13:24.00 | mplabs | thanks! |
| 13:24.12 | namtorba | you can use it for routing ... |
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| 13:24.56 | wols | namtorba: would you use it for that? |
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| 13:28.08 | scoobertron | I want to use incrontab to run a script when I plug in an hdmi cable. I have identified the correct status file in /sys/class/drm, but when it is changed it does not seem to generate a file modified event. is this normal? |
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| 13:30.06 | xf_merc | Why is an absolute-only device (a touchscreen) being treated like a relative touchpad in X? (I.e. the faster my finger goes, the more the cursor moves). Evtest shows that the device is ONLY outputting absolute data, and the data looks to be correct. |
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| 13:31.29 | Iridos | perhaps there's no separate treatment? |
| 13:32.37 | xf_merc | Iridos: I'm not sure, but there's clearly something amiss here. Touchscreens should'nt "accelerate". |
| 13:32.38 | Iridos | well, xset m 0 0 for a workaround? |
| 13:32.52 | LemensTS | wols: i guess i am more needing to run a firewall and dhcp server. Ive used shorewall before. I just want something lightweight and simple |
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| 13:33.18 | Iridos | yeah... that is kind of useless if what you want is the cursor under your fingers |
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| 13:34.11 | xf_merc | It is. I've just spotted a bug in the evdev output, but that should only cause me to be unable to click. I don't think it should be affecting motion. |
| 13:35.06 | Iridos | xf_merc, I see there's two (three?) different drivers for touchscreens... evtouch and tslib |
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| 13:36.12 | xf_merc | this is evdev (evtouch caused a seg fault) using a kernel event driver written by one of the porters. |
| 13:36.19 | xf_merc | I *have* had this working before... |
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| 13:36.53 | xf_merc | That was a different kernel though |
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| 13:37.36 | Iridos | oh |
| 13:38.03 | xf_merc | I'll have a peer at Cotulla's driver code before and after in a sec, giving tslib a shot first |
| 13:38.05 | Iridos | just dumped the xorg.conf from my N900 in a pastebin... it's not very complex :) |
| 13:40.02 | Iridos | dunno, can't even say what that uses for its touchscreen... no logfiles |
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| 13:42.55 | namtorba | wols: you can .. route can mean two different things here .. |
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| 13:45.26 | Iridos | xf_merc, mmh, there's also the more generic evdev... but that would sound like it could cause the problem you describe (treating all different inputs as one) |
| 13:46.01 | xf_merc | Iridos: evdev is what I was using, just trying tslib instead now. Can't hurt. |
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| 13:48.20 | galaxyAbstractor | hey |
| 13:48.31 | boudiccas | galaxyAbstractor; what? |
| 13:48.56 | galaxyAbstractor | I accidentally the whole root into a folder called /homenew while trying to move files from the old home dir, is there a way I can fix this? |
| 13:48.59 | galaxyAbstractor | moved* |
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| 13:49.30 | galaxyAbstractor | I forgot which dir I was in <.< |
| 13:49.36 | koollman | galaxyAbstractor: probably. don't close any shell you have. |
| 13:49.54 | koollman | galaxyAbstractor: if I understand correctly, you moved /* in /homenew ? |
| 13:49.56 | galaxyAbstractor | I have it still running |
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| 13:49.59 | galaxyAbstractor | yes |
| 13:50.30 | koollman | galaxyAbstractor: cd /homenew ; ./bin/mv * / |
| 13:50.32 | galaxyAbstractor | I was intending to move /home/* to /homenew because I was mounting a new partition to /home/ |
| 13:50.48 | koollman | perhaps not *, but at least usr bin lib |
| 13:50.50 | koollman | and sbin |
| 13:51.04 | galaxyAbstractor | ./bin/mv: No such file or directory |
| 13:51.09 | wols | simply move them back? |
| 13:51.17 | koollman | galaxyAbstractor: oh. so you didn't move /bin ? |
| 13:51.21 | koollman | that's easier :) |
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| 13:51.29 | koollman | galaxyAbstractor: what's left in / ? |
| 13:51.29 | galaxyAbstractor | I have no idea where it went |
| 13:51.39 | galaxyAbstractor | I can't know, ls is gone too |
| 13:51.41 | koollman | echo * |
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| 13:51.51 | koollman | useful when ls is gone ;) |
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| 13:51.59 | galaxyAbstractor | backup, dev, homenew, proc, sys and temp |
| 13:52.01 | galaxyAbstractor | is in / |
| 13:52.05 | koollman | ok |
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| 13:52.19 | koollman | now, go in homenew, and echo * again |
| 13:52.53 | koollman | loves 'really-fucked-up-but-still-alive' server challenges :) |
| 13:53.02 | galaxyAbstractor | bin, boot, etc, home, initrd.img, lib, lost+found, media, mnt, opt, root, sbin, selinux, shared, srv, usr, var and vmlinuz |
| 13:53.23 | Iridos | he didn't change to homenew before running ./bin/mv ? |
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| 13:53.53 | galaxyAbstractor | I did change to homenew |
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| 13:54.01 | galaxyAbstractor | I'm in homenew now and still get that there is no mv |
| 13:54.09 | Iridos | oh |
| 13:54.14 | wols | that's normal since your /lib is gone |
| 13:54.15 | galaxyAbstractor | I echoed the bin dir, there is no mv in there |
| 13:54.19 | POVaddct | .oO(time for a static linked busybox) |
| 13:54.42 | koollman | galaxyAbstractor: that's interesting :) |
| 13:54.54 | koollman | I wonder where mv went. it's quite useful :) |
| 13:55.00 | Iridos | well... if there's no mv in /homewnew/bin/, you did something more than that mv |
| 13:55.02 | galaxyAbstractor | oh wait, there is a mv in bin |
| 13:55.05 | galaxyAbstractor | I just didn't see it |
| 13:55.13 | koollman | galaxyAbstractor: right. so ... use it :) |
| 13:55.22 | koollman | first, move bin back in position |
| 13:55.47 | Iridos | well, everything seems to have been fine... |
| 13:55.50 | galaxyAbstractor | but I still get that there is no mv in bin :s |
| 13:55.52 | Iridos | as there's nothing in there |
| 13:56.08 | galaxyAbstractor | I am in /homenew/ and I do ./bin/mv * / |
| 13:56.20 | galaxyAbstractor | and I get there is no such file or directory |
| 13:56.33 | Iridos | what filesystem is on /homenew= |
| 13:56.36 | Iridos | what filesystem is on /homenew? |
| 13:57.09 | galaxyAbstractor | I have no idea, I am quite new to linux, that's probably why this happened in the first place :P |
| 13:57.15 | Iridos | hm... does /homenew/bin/m[tab][tab] tab-complete? |
| 13:57.16 | galaxyAbstractor | but if I remember from fstab, it was ext3 |
| 13:57.39 | Iridos | might me mounted with noexec... that would make things a bit difficult |
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| 13:58.04 | galaxyAbstractor | it autocompletes to bin and lists a couple of files starting with m, like mv |
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| 13:58.28 | galaxyAbstractor | I put an 1GB partition on noexec, but it should be mounted at /tmp |
| 13:58.33 | Iridos | hm, then should be fine |
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| 14:02.33 | galaxyAbstractor | If I boot up from a ubuntu live cd, mount the debian hdd and move all files using ubuntu, you think that will fix it? |
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| 14:05.13 | wols | galaxyAbstractor: yes |
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| 14:07.56 | boudiccas | galaxyAbstractor; i hope you have good backups, you may need them |
| 14:08.17 | galaxyAbstractor | the next step is to set up backups <.< |
| 14:08.23 | galaxyAbstractor | lol |
| 14:08.28 | galaxyAbstractor | it was a new system anyway |
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| 14:08.44 | galaxyAbstractor | but I don't feel like redoing everything I already did :P |
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| 14:21.32 | galaxyAbstractor | seems like I managed to fix it :D |
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| 14:22.47 | joe6 | aptitude seems to just stop: http://codepad.org/o7TMS9WO |
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| 14:23.37 | joe6 | the reason I am trying to install libgcc1 from unstable is due to this error http://codepad.org/oKzQ4660. I found this bug that uri: http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/K2cMvzycEuImk9ukUn0Y |
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| 14:23.56 | joe6 | seems to suggest that upgrading to 4.6 from unstable is a good solution. |
| 14:24.05 | joe6 | but, aptitude does not seem to do that. |
| 14:24.19 | joe6 | any thoughts, please? |
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| 14:25.25 | wols | joe6: you run squeeze and thought installing gcc 4.6 from sid was a good idea? |
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| 14:25.48 | joe6 | wols, desperate times.. i just want to get the gcc_s library |
| 14:25.59 | joe6 | and, that was the solution i found. |
| 14:26.00 | wols | joe6: what debian do you run? |
| 14:26.57 | joe6 | Linux version 3.0.0-1-686-pae (Debian 3.0.0-3) (ben@decadent.org.uk) (gcc version 4.5.3 (Debian 4.5.3-8) ) #1 SMP Sat Aug 27 16:41:03 UTC 2011 |
| 14:27.08 | joe6 | wols, does that help? |
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| 14:27.37 | wols | then what is the problem with your aptitude paste? looks all very sensible to me |
| 14:27.52 | wols | I think the real problem you have is you run testing |
| 14:28.12 | joe6 | wols, but it does not install anything. |
| 14:28.19 | joe6 | after I say Y, it just exits. |
| 14:28.27 | wols | then maybe you should read your aptitude output more clearly to see what to do |
| 14:28.48 | wols | and you typed "Y" both times. so what is the problem? |
| 14:28.56 | joe6 | i installed testing, but have been trying to play it safe with "aptitude safe-upgrade". but, I am sure I even had some unstable packages, at some point. |
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| 14:29.57 | wols | you cannot upgrade to testing with safe-upgrade. either you run testing fully or you don't. and if you had a single unstable package it's your own fault cause you ONLY get them if there is a unstable repo in your sources.list. again: what is your actual problem? |
| 14:30.12 | joe6 | "Would download/install/remove packages." is the last line. it suggests some things that it will do. |
| 14:30.23 | wols | btw: you cannot "play it safe" with testing either. testing breaks. right now, very often. and badly |
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| 14:30.42 | wols | that's what aptitude does. it's what it is designed for. how is that a problem? |
| 14:30.58 | joe6 | wols, but, atleast it is better than unstable. with unstable, something or the other would keep failing. |
| 14:31.26 | wols | do I have to ask a third time what the actual real problem is? |
| 14:31.54 | joe6 | wols, sorry, I was using a -s, which I should not have. |
| 14:32.03 | joe6 | wrongly copied the command from the history. |
| 14:32.10 | joe6 | wols, very sorry about that. |
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| 14:33.03 | wols | good luck with your further use of testing. I suggest a proper dist-upgrade to it |
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| 14:34.04 | joe6 | oh, really. i was hoping that I could get to stable, if I keep doing "safe-upgrade" long enough. guess, I am wrong. |
| 14:34.11 | joe6 | need to read up on that again. |
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| 14:34.54 | somiaj | joe6: how do you expect to get stable by upgrading (since stable will have older packages) -- if you want to eventally get that to stable you'll want to stick with 'wheezy' in your sources and just wait a year or so for it to stabalize. |
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| 14:35.24 | joe6 | ok, thanks. |
| 14:35.25 | somiaj | but just be ready to fix any broken things in wheezy durning that time. (: |
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| 14:35.58 | somiaj | and don't fix things with 'sid' packages, that will only make it more difficult to let you system stable out to what ever the wheezy release becomes. |
| 14:36.06 | smhar | how to hide the names of the users in gdm? |
| 14:36.27 | joe6 | somiaj, ok, thanks. |
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| 14:36.49 | galaxyAbstractor | hmmm, so if I wanna create a tar of home with bz2 compression with the current date in the filename, like home-2011-09-16.tar.bz2, would the correct command be like: tar -jcf "/backup/home-$(date +%y-%m-%d).tar.bz2" /home/ ? |
| 14:36.55 | joe6 | i should probably do a dist-upgrade now, then? the dist-upgrade has a very big list of packages to change. |
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| 14:37.02 | galaxyAbstractor | Because it returns broken pipe |
| 14:37.08 | galaxyAbstractor | I'm not really good at this :\ |
| 14:37.34 | joe6 | ok, doing the dist-upgrade |
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| 14:38.56 | galaxyAbstractor | oh nvm, forgot to install bzip2 :> |
| 14:39.06 | wols | ;) |
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| 14:41.45 | galaxyAbstractor | thanks everyone for the help :D |
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| 14:41.57 | ir8 | How do i fix this? Sep 16 07:33:15 master init: Id "co" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
| 14:42.09 | ir8 | its like flooding my /var/log/syslog? |
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| 14:43.35 | wols | ir8: grep co /etc/inittab ? |
| 14:44.09 | Odaym | stop me if you've heard this one before..whenever I press the volume icon on my panel and press on Volume Control, I am logged out and I'm back at the login screen, just like when you would do "kill Xorg" |
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| 14:47.22 | joe6 | i think i just messed up my whole system by doing dist-upgrade. http://codepad.org/nWl0gIF7. it removed all my packages, should have paid more attention to what it said it was going to install. |
| 14:48.02 | ir8 | sec |
| 14:48.13 | ir8 | #co:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty hvc0 9600 linux |
| 14:48.24 | ir8 | I already commented that out. |
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| 14:48.34 | ir8 | is there a way to install xen-tools on debian. |
| 14:48.39 | ir8 | without breaking anything? |
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| 14:49.35 | somiaj | joe6: welcome to sid. (: |
| 14:49.45 | wols | ,versions xen-tools |
| 14:49.46 | judd | Package xen-tools on i386 -- lenny: 3.9-4+lenny1; lenny-backports: 4.2-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 4.2-1; sid: 4.2.1-1; wheezy: 4.2.1-1 |
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| 14:50.04 | wols | ir8: apt-get is wonderful. also wrt your commenting out: have you restarted init? |
| 14:50.24 | ir8 | wols: init q is for a restart no? |
| 14:50.39 | wols | Odaym: check your logfiles then |
| 14:51.04 | Odaym | check for what.... |
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| 14:51.45 | wols | check for logs of the crash obviously |
| 14:52.05 | Odaym | it isn't a crash |
| 14:52.18 | Odaym | it just logs you out and takes you back to the login screen |
| 14:52.21 | Odaym | it isn't an error, perse |
| 14:52.29 | Odaym | it's just wired to that button in some mangled manner |
| 14:52.40 | wols | if it's no error, you aren't taken back to your dm and all is fine. have a nice day! |
| 14:52.55 | wols | no it doesn't log you out, it crashes your DE or wm |
| 14:53.05 | Odaym | aha |
| 14:53.10 | Odaym | ok, I'll see var |
| 14:53.29 | wols | what is "var" |
| 14:53.32 | Iridos | joe6, what do you expect us to say except "yes, guess you should have paid attention to it warning you to remove gnome"? |
| 14:53.36 | Odaym | /var/log |
| 14:53.49 | joe6 | Iridos: laugh.. |
| 14:53.50 | wols | it's not in /var/log most probably |
| 14:54.01 | Iridos | joe6, ok, can do that :D |
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| 14:56.21 | Odaym | yea I'm not finding anything relevant there, except for a directory called gmd3 |
| 14:56.29 | Odaym | which...has a lot of logs that have ambiguous names |
| 14:56.40 | Odaym | greeter.log slave.log, etc.. |
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| 14:57.06 | Odaym | gdm3* |
| 14:57.31 | Iridos | joe6, guess you can try to copy&paste the list after "The following packages will be REMOVED:" into "sed 's/[{}[^}]*[}]//' |xargs aptitude install " and see if it still finds a solution. Also this channel is for stable... you probably want to go to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for testing |
| 14:58.02 | joe6 | ok, thanks. |
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| 14:59.50 | Iridos | hm, probably shouldn't change stdin for aptitude like that, as you still have to type "y" and choose a solution |
| 15:00.15 | Iridos | so just run it thourgh sed to remove the {a} and copy the outcome onto the commandline after a "aptitude install" |
| 15:00.49 | Iridos | (obviously that wasn't a command I would try on my own system before writing it here) |
| 15:01.02 | joe6 | Iridos: yes, I understand. |
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| 15:01.29 | joe6 | maybe this is a good opportunity to get rid of the stuff that I do not use anymore. |
| 15:02.47 | Iridos | like gnome and X and all that useless crap |
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| 15:02.56 | joe6 | haha.. |
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| 15:04.27 | wols | !tell Iridos about install gnome |
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| 15:04.46 | joe6 | how do you maintain the debian system? on testing all the time, or, on stable or unstable, or stick to squeeze or some release like that? |
| 15:04.47 | wols | but understand that gnome will break quite often in the near future due to gnome 3 being introduced |
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| 15:04.49 | Iridos | wols, so what was that for |
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| 15:05.16 | Iridos | wols, you think it was _only_ gnome that triggered all the other removes? |
| 15:05.16 | wols | Iridos: was for joe6 actually. sorry.. joe6 /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 15:05.43 | wols | joe6: people normally stay on a certain release of their choice. sometimes using backports |
| 15:05.56 | wols | dunno |
| 15:06.17 | boudiccas | joe6; i use squeeze and will only upgrade when debian 7 comes out. i use a script to tell me if there are nay updates and it runs 4 times a day |
| 15:06.33 | boudiccas | any |
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| 15:07.06 | ir8 | wols: thanks man! |
| 15:07.31 | joe6 | boudiccas: oh, ok. so, you find updates when any software has a fix or needs a newer version? and the update script gets it from squeeze/main apt repository? |
| 15:07.56 | joe6 | boudiccas: or, run the update script all the time, in your case. |
| 15:08.11 | boudiccas | joe6; if its updated in the repos then my script will tell me, so then i manually update |
| 15:08.11 | joe6 | so, you do not worry with testing/stable releases? |
| 15:08.18 | feisar | Hi, I have installed openJDK and put a .sh file in /etc/profile.d/ containing 'JAVA_HOME=/usr/bin/java' but when I type 'env' I cannot see the environment var listed. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 15:08.33 | boudiccas | joe6; no, i stay strictly with squeeze |
| 15:08.51 | wols | feisar: have you logged out and back in again? |
| 15:09.03 | feisar | wols: yeah, just rebooted |
| 15:09.34 | wols | is your file executable? and why didn't you use /etc/environment ? |
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| 15:10.02 | joe6 | boudiccas: any reason why you arrived at that coclusion to stick with squeeze? I used to be pegged to testing, and sometimes things would break, when I do apt dist-upgrade. |
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| 15:10.12 | valdyn_ | feisar: why would JAVA_HOME be /usr/bin/java ? |
| 15:10.16 | joe6 | hence the decision to just do safe-upgrade instead. |
| 15:10.24 | feisar | my file is not executable because the existing pre-installed one wasn't and I didn't use /etc/environment because I didn't know about it |
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| 15:10.41 | boudiccas | joe6; i dont know enough about debian to run wheezy or sid, so if something broke i wouldnt know how to fix it |
| 15:11.09 | feisar | valdyn: I'm not sure. I'd like to install OpenBravo and was looking at this http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Installation/Custom/JDK |
| 15:11.47 | feisar | valdyn: sorry, your right, it should be '/usr/local/sun-jdk' |
| 15:11.47 | valdyn_ | feisar: why dont you use the java debian packages? |
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| 15:12.03 | feisar | I am using the debian packages |
| 15:12.14 | valdyn_ | feisar: they are not in /usr/local |
| 15:12.49 | valdyn_ | feisar: you shouldnt need to set JAVA_HOME if you use the debian packages |
| 15:13.08 | boudiccas | joe6; i only moved overt o debian from centos about four months ago, so i'm relatively unskilled with it yet |
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| 15:13.27 | namtorba | boudiccas: you seem to be picking it up well though |
| 15:13.31 | feisar | oh ok, so even though java_home is not listed in my env vars I should be OK to continue the install |
| 15:13.47 | valdyn_ | feisar: yes |
| 15:13.50 | joe6 | wols, do you stick with testing/stable/sid/squeeze? |
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| 15:14.05 | feisar | valdyn: thanks |
| 15:14.08 | boudiccas | namtorba; thank you, i have a good LUG i ask questions of, and i tend to document things in my blog for future refernce |
| 15:14.11 | wols | I always install squeeze. sooner or later move it to testing or even to sid... |
| 15:14.15 | valdyn_ | feisar: install of whatever java application, sun java is already installed, you said |
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| 15:14.46 | wols | feisar: you said you installed openjdk. openjdk != sun/oracle jdk |
| 15:14.47 | feisar | valdyn: oh no, not Sun's. I cant use that because I'm on PPC |
| 15:15.05 | joe6 | wols, and do you do dist-upgrade once in a while, when on testing? |
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| 15:15.17 | feisar | I'm using OpenJDK which OpenBravo is also compatible with |
| 15:15.23 | valdyn_ | feisar: ok, same deal |
| 15:15.37 | wols | joe6: mostly I upgrade certain packages. e.g. when there is a problem (security mostly) or I want the new version |
| 15:15.53 | feisar | thanks, so why don't I need env vars for java if I use the Debian packages? |
| 15:16.06 | joe6 | wols, then, why did you tell me to do a "dist-upgrade"? |
| 15:16.07 | wols | and of course if/when something breaks due to a new version of something else |
| 15:16.08 | somiaj | joe6: I use sid here, but I'm constantally fixing my computer. (: |
| 15:16.16 | valdyn_ | feisar: I really dont know when you need those env vars ever |
| 15:16.23 | valdyn_ | feisar: normally you dont. |
| 15:16.35 | feisar | ok cheers : ) |
| 15:16.52 | wols | cause you want to run a proper branch. never a mix. you can run older testing with your newer packages but you might encounter errors and in that case the first step is to upgrade to a consistent current version. NEVER a mix |
| 15:16.54 | joe6 | wols, not to put you on the spot, but, to understand the thoughtprocess |
| 15:17.20 | joe6 | oh, ok. |
| 15:17.29 | valdyn_ | joe6: dist-upgrade does not mean to upgrade between releases, what exactly it does is explained in the manpage |
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| 15:17.46 | wols | mixing is probably the most common reason why people in here have problems: "I run debian stable but want software X which is only available in testing or sid. I just get it from there" that ALWAYS leads to trouble for those inexperienced users |
| 15:18.05 | wols | valdyn_: but if you switch to a new one, you do a dist-upgrade |
| 15:18.32 | valdyn_ | sure, the difference between required for and exclusively used for ... |
| 15:18.33 | joe6 | i installed squeeze, moved to testing, and then have been doing safe-upgrade |
| 15:18.52 | valdyn_ | joe6: that doesnt work in the long run |
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| 15:19.03 | somiaj | joe6: your issue is most dependences are either >= or = version number which are hard coded into the package. So its rarely the package that causes troubles, it is that it wants a newer version of some dependency which other packages use and either causes conflicts or buggy behavior (which is what happened to you) and apt isn't always smart enough to resolve conflicts in multiple branches (it even has trouble in testing or sid during cert |
| 15:19.13 | sts1 | feisar: because its usually already configured for packages which make use of java. you will probably need it if you install an application manually. |
| 15:19.14 | skilz | How can I install a newer version of WINE? |
| 15:19.15 | wols | never got what "safe-upgrade" means. isn't it a ubuntuism? |
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| 15:19.33 | valdyn_ | wols: no, debianism or aptitudism |
| 15:19.40 | valdyn_ | wols: ubuntu use apt-get though |
| 15:19.41 | somiaj | its a feature of aptitude, I don't think apt-get has it |
| 15:19.42 | wols | skilz: short answer: you can't from debian. which sucks. you can install debs from the carbon-project website if you want |
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| 15:20.01 | wols | valdyn_: first time I encountered it was with ubuntu afaik |
| 15:20.06 | skilz | okay whats the url? |
| 15:20.07 | valdyn_ | strange |
| 15:20.17 | feisar | sts1: ah ok, then I probably will need it as I don't think there is an OpenBravo package for PPC Debian Squeeze |
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| 15:20.27 | feisar | sts1: thanks |
| 15:20.36 | somiaj | wols: looks like safe-upgrade is halfway between upgrade and dist-upgrade (it will install new packages to resolve depends but remove old packages) |
| 15:20.37 | wols | valdyn_: maybe my alzheimer is playing tricks on me |
| 15:20.45 | valdyn_ | somiaj: No! |
| 15:21.04 | valdyn_ | somiaj: its a new name for "upgrade" |
| 15:21.08 | wols | skilz: http://www.google.com/search?q=carbon+project+wine |
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| 15:21.18 | somiaj | valdyn_: oh sorry missed the fine print, it will remove automatically installed packages |
| 15:21.28 | somiaj | valdyn_: well not according tot eh man page I'm reading. |
| 15:21.56 | joe6 | oh really, safe-upgrade == upgrade? |
| 15:22.14 | somiaj | well aptitudes safe-upgrade is not the same as apt-get 'upgrade' |
| 15:22.25 | somiaj | according to teh man pages |
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| 15:22.44 | valdyn_ | somiaj: thats correct, its only the same as "aptitude upgrade" |
| 15:22.49 | sts1 | feisar: java_home will extend the include path or set the CWD for the process iirc. but you should find this information in the java manpage. |
| 15:23.03 | somiaj | valdyn_: ahh didn't realize aptitudes upgrade was different, glad I use apt-get for that. (: |
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| 15:23.26 | valdyn_ | somiaj: aptitude is trying to be to clever in some cases.. |
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| 15:24.35 | somiaj | joe6: I personally use apt-get and upgrade in two stages. stage 1) 'upgrade' -- this will never install new pacakges or remove installed packages only upgrade package versions that can be under those circumstances. then I do a dist-upgrade which is where you can add/remove packages to fit in with the new depednecy issues as things change. |
| 15:25.16 | skilz | wols, Do I need to download all the deb files? |
| 15:25.24 | joe6 | somiaj: how often do you do dist-upgrade. upgrade has not given me problems, afaik. but, it was dist-upgrade that would mess up the system. |
| 15:26.02 | valdyn_ | joe6: upgrade doesnt really cause problems, but it prevents problems being fixed and new packages to be installed |
| 15:26.16 | somiaj | joe6: well your problem was you had sid packages installed but only testing sources. So when you upgraded everything to testing it detected a conflict with some core libary you pulled in from sid and had to remove that lib and anything that dependend on it (which was most your system) |
| 15:26.27 | valdyn_ | joe6: which sooner or later hits about everything in testing |
| 15:26.47 | joe6 | my apt.conf: http://codepad.org/cqgQ4rWt preferences: http://codepad.org/q42R7DRd , sources.list: http://codepad.org/vwIV6Z50 |
| 15:27.03 | somiaj | joe6: I usually upgrade sid about once every few months when I have time to fix anything that breaks -- once I get sid fixed and in a good place I leave it alone until I either need a new package installed, a newer version or just have extra time and want to upgrade. |
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| 15:27.32 | joe6 | somiaj, i used to do that with testing. |
| 15:27.43 | joe6 | I think i should probably do that, from now on. |
| 15:27.52 | valdyn_ | if you do that for anything in production thats really gotta hurt |
| 15:27.55 | joe6 | valdyn_, thanks, good to know that. |
| 15:28.08 | valdyn_ | but if its just for your toy at home, sure... |
| 15:28.13 | joe6 | valdyn_, yes, that is what used to happen. |
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| 15:28.34 | wols | skilz: there is a repo you can use |
| 15:28.47 | alecjw | hi there, does the debian binary of xpdf honour file permissions? |
| 15:28.52 | somiaj | and have abackup computer, if you have a project you have to do on monday and your upgrade fails on sunday you may not be able to do any work. |
| 15:29.00 | skilz | wols, Where is it? |
| 15:29.00 | valdyn_ | alecjw: "honour" |
| 15:29.04 | valdyn_ | alecjw: what does that mean? |
| 15:29.25 | alecjw | as in stop you from printing files which are marked as not for printing |
| 15:29.37 | alecjw | or copy text from copy protected ones |
| 15:29.42 | valdyn_ | alecjw: which permission system supports that flag? |
| 15:29.48 | alecjw | pdf permissions |
| 15:29.54 | valdyn_ | alecjw: thats not file permissions |
| 15:30.07 | thewanderer1 | no idea about xpdf, but Okular has an option to honour that or not (configurable in GUI) |
| 15:30.12 | valdyn_ | alecjw: pretty certain that xpdf does not enforce that |
| 15:30.15 | wols | ghostscript/gsview used to ignore those pdf permissions |
| 15:30.18 | alecjw | whatever they're called then |
| 15:30.20 | joe6 | zathura is good too. |
| 15:30.24 | valdyn_ | alecjw: this is some reallly retarded mechanism by adobe |
| 15:30.32 | valdyn_ | alecjw: totally useless |
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| 15:30.35 | alecjw | xpdf does enforce those permissions but there are patches to stop it from doing so |
| 15:30.53 | alecjw | i was wondering if the debian binary included those patches |
| 15:31.02 | valdyn_ | alecjw: no idea |
| 15:31.04 | skilz | wols, whats the repo? |
| 15:31.41 | thewanderer1 | alecjw: can you use Okular instead? |
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| 15:31.50 | valdyn_ | or evince |
| 15:31.55 | thewanderer1 | yeah, that too |
| 15:32.05 | sts1 | alecjw: apt-get source xpdf. :-) |
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| 15:32.40 | thewanderer1 | indeed the best solution... hack away! :P |
| 15:33.06 | somiaj | drm snuck into my xpdf...how sad..:/ |
| 15:33.07 | alecjw | thewanderer1: probably. im just looking for the lightest pdf reader i can find though |
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| 15:33.14 | Coweater | alecjw: there was such a patch applied, maybe look at bug #145558 for specifics |
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| 15:33.25 | alecjw | ah ok, thanks Coweater |
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| 15:33.38 | somiaj | alecjw: you can also check the changelog for a package in /usr/share/doc/xpdf and it should mention any patches that were applied |
| 15:33.58 | somiaj | alecjw: if you have the source, all the patches are in debian/patches so you can see which ones were there as well. |
| 15:34.32 | thewanderer1 | very strange that someone would write functionality that enforces this policy, and then release a patch to circumvent that :) |
| 15:35.18 | alecjw | thewanderer1: the patch isnt by the xpdf team, i dont think |
| 15:35.25 | alecjw | they're hardcore pro-DRM |
| 15:35.34 | wols | skilz: seems there is none after all :( |
| 15:36.38 | skilz | Is there some way I can click to install a .deb in gnome? |
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| 15:36.58 | skilz | what do I need to install |
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| 15:38.08 | Bushmills | skilz: you could click on "root shell", and there enter dpkg -i name_of_file.deb |
| 15:38.24 | Bushmills | or does gnome call it "root terminal" |
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| 15:39.44 | calculon_ | Who seeks me? |
| 15:39.53 | wols | !tell skilz about gdebi |
| 15:40.01 | Bushmills | or make a script which accept the deb as command line parameter, and drag and drop the deb file onto its icon. less recommended because that runs package install scripts with interaction turned off |
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| 15:41.39 | alazare619 | can someone assist me understand how to preseed the ipw2x00 file |
| 15:42.11 | alecjw | skilz: gdebi, gdebi-gtk or similar |
| 15:42.23 | skilz | Bushmills, I want to integrate a 'Install' option when I right click on a .deb file |
| 15:42.47 | sharp15 | which package is alsaconf in? please don't tell me it isn't needed. none of my soundcards have been configured properly without it. |
| 15:43.14 | feisar | can anyone tell me what JAVA_HOME should be for open-jdk on squeeze? |
| 15:43.49 | somiaj | sharp15: sure you have the right thing, no package seems to contain that file. http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=alsaconf&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 15:44.16 | Bushmills | skilz: that asks for an overseeable amount of creativity when creating such a script |
| 15:44.18 | wols | feisar: nothing. you simply install it via dpkg and it works |
| 15:44.28 | ir8 | ls |
| 15:44.31 | ir8 | ooops |
| 15:44.32 | sharp15 | somiaj: they seem to have pulled it. used to be in alsaconf. it is listed on http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA |
| 15:44.40 | sharp15 | *alsa-utils |
| 15:44.42 | ir8 | ted talks rocks. |
| 15:45.05 | feisar | wols: thanks but I believe I need to set it if I'm installing software that hasn't been packaged for debian |
| 15:45.18 | somiaj | sharp15: did you read that whole page? |
| 15:45.29 | wols | !tell feisar about errors |
| 15:45.35 | somiaj | sharp15: For release Squeeze or any later release, alsaconf is no longer available in package alsa-utils. So try to configure alsa by running the command 'alsactl init' as root. |
| 15:45.58 | calculon_ | Who want help me? |
| 15:46.31 | sharp15 | somiaj: i found it after i asked. i'm dubious that it will work. its the 5th or 6th time debian has insisted something will work and didn't. |
| 15:46.43 | skilz | Error: Conflicts with the installed package 'libwine-alsa' |
| 15:46.54 | skilz | but I already done 'apt-get remove wine' |
| 15:46.57 | wols | skilz: dpkg -l |grep wine |
| 15:47.03 | feisar | wols: basically, I'm installing OpenBravo on a PPC version of squeeze and the documentation says it requires certain environment variables to be set |
| 15:47.08 | somiaj | sharp15: are you running squeeze? Maybe state what it is you are trying to do? |
| 15:47.20 | wols | feisar: have you just tried installing it? |
| 15:47.45 | feisar | wols: no I haven't but I will if that's what you think best |
| 15:47.47 | sharp15 | somiaj: i'm running debian-6.0 plus security updates. i'm just trying to play back .ogg and .mp3 files at the moment. |
| 15:48.01 | wols | feisar: dunno about !best, but it's what I would do |
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| 15:48.17 | feisar | ok, I'll give it a go, thanks |
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| 15:48.29 | somiaj | sharp15: do you have anything in 'cat /proc/asound/cards'? |
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| 15:50.00 | sharp15 | somiaj: "0 [Live ]: EMU10K1X - Dell Sound Blaster Live!" and another line giving an IRQ and the name of the card. the snd_emu10k1x module is already in the kernel though. |
| 15:50.21 | Bushmills | !why aptitude |
| 15:50.22 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades (lenny->squeeze) apt-get is better though. Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
| 15:50.27 | Bushmills | skilz: ^^^ |
| 15:50.48 | somiaj | sharp15: so your sblive is detected and the module is loaded. Is that the sound card you want to use or are you wanting to use another one not listed? |
| 15:51.12 | somiaj | sharp15: if that is the card you want, run 'alsamixer' and make sure things are muted and the volumes (including Wave and PCM are turned up) |
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| 15:51.17 | sharp15 | somiaj: that is the only one on the machine. |
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| 15:51.46 | sharp15 | somiaj: alsamixer returns this "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory" |
| 15:51.55 | somiaj | sharp15: try alsamixer -c 0 |
| 15:52.28 | feisar | how do I do the equivalent of installing apache2-devel (on redhat)? |
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| 15:53.03 | sharp15 | somiaj: amixer works as root but not as user. any idea if a "audio" group was added? |
| 15:53.05 | somiaj | feisar: we use -dev (for develmopent libaries) it will probabaly be a lib package but use apt-cache search to get the name |
| 15:53.10 | wols | feisar: I never did that but I'd start with apt-cache search apache |grep dev |
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| 15:53.20 | feisar | wols: thanks again |
| 15:53.21 | sharp15 | *alsamixer |
| 15:53.23 | somiaj | sharp15: yes there is an audio group by default, 'adduser <usrname> audio' |
| 15:53.53 | somiaj | sharp15: you will have to logout and back in for that to take effect. Seems like your sound card was detected and loaded just fine and you had no need for alsaconf to do it for you. (: |
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| 15:54.30 | feisar | 'apache2-threaded-dev ' what's threaded? |
| 15:54.31 | inqui | good morning everyone ^_^ |
| 15:54.42 | sharp15 | somiaj: was this group just added? sound was working fine last time i used it. updated this morning and now its gone. |
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| 15:55.00 | wols | skilz: audio exists since at least etch or so. I think sarge/woody too |
| 15:55.15 | somiaj | feisar: apt-cache show apache2-threaded-dev -- gives you more info explaining what that package is |
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| 15:55.35 | feisar | somiaj: brilliant, thanks |
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| 15:56.22 | sharp15 | somiaj: working. thank you. |
| 15:56.26 | skilz | Now im getting this: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libasound2 (> 1.0.24.1) |
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| 15:56.48 | wols | ,versions libasound2 |
| 15:56.49 | judd | Package libasound2 on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.16-2; lenny-backports: 1.0.23-2.1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.0.23-2.1; wheezy: 1.0.24.1-2; sid: 1.0.24.1-4 |
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| 15:57.36 | somiaj | sharp15: your welcome. Yea audio group has been there a while, not sure why it all the suddon took effect, but its nice, keeps people from sshing into your machine (if you gave them an account) and blaring your speakers at 3am |
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| 15:57.58 | wols | skilz: I see a dpkg-buildpackage of wine in your future (if you want to run these packages) |
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| 15:58.16 | skilz | yeah |
| 15:58.28 | somiaj | sharp15: so see the answer was 'it isn't needed' :P |
| 15:58.48 | sharp15 | somiaj: the first time. for once i'm happy to look like an uninformed idiot. |
| 15:58.54 | sharp15 | :) |
| 15:59.01 | somiaj | skilz: I use the cdbs to build wine on sid, it acutally plays very nicely -- newest unstable 1.3 branch usually. |
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| 15:59.22 | wols | somiaj: cdbs? |
| 16:00.00 | somiaj | wols: common debian build system -- a way to create packages from a 'blank' rules file |
| 16:00.05 | skilz | somiaj, Do you have a 'howto'? |
| 16:00.21 | somiaj | though I think dh7 does that by default now, I'm just still using it |
| 16:01.04 | somiaj | skilz: http://paste.debian.net/130421/ -- that is the info I put in a textfile to remind me what I do |
| 16:01.17 | somiaj | skilz: the CONFIGOPTS you want to add to debian/rules after the dh_make generates that directory. |
| 16:01.28 | somiaj | skilz: just do that all in the top level of the source tree |
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| 16:02.25 | Iridos | as you were discussing wine... what about those version numbers in debian? |
| 16:02.38 | somiaj | skilz: one note is I would run the ./configure script manually the first time (to make sure you have all the -dev libs installed) first |
| 16:02.38 | skilz | Ancient |
| 16:02.43 | skilz | 1.0.1 |
| 16:02.56 | Iridos | yeah, is that really the number? |
| 16:03.01 | Iridos | judd, versions wine-unstable |
| 16:03.02 | judd | Package wine-unstable on i386 -- sid: 1.1.35-1 |
| 16:03.57 | Iridos | judd, versions wine |
| 16:03.58 | judd | Package wine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; sid: 1.0.1-3.3; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 16:04.19 | Iridos | if I compare that with winehq, that lists 1.2.3 as stable, 1.3.28 as unstable? |
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| 16:04.49 | skilz | How do I install libasound2 1.0.24.1 |
| 16:05.09 | wols | skilz: you don't want to do that |
| 16:05.16 | Iridos | don't see a lot of matching there |
| 16:05.18 | skilz | why? |
| 16:05.26 | wols | ,versions libasound2 |
| 16:05.27 | judd | Package libasound2 on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.16-2; lenny-backports: 1.0.23-2.1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.0.23-2.1; wheezy: 1.0.24.1-2; sid: 1.0.24.1-4 |
| 16:05.28 | wols | that's why |
| 16:06.16 | skilz | whats that mean? |
| 16:06.46 | somiaj | you don't want to isntall testing/unstable packages on stable. libasound2 1.0.23 should be good enough for wine (once you compile it against that libary) |
| 16:07.24 | somiaj | I recentally built a wine package for squeeze, but only the 1.2.3 version |
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| 16:15.10 | Iridos | wols, so you favor the carbon project version over that from winehq? |
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| 16:15.49 | wols | yes, cause it's more of a "debian" package than the winehq one. is the winehq even for debian and not just ubuntu? |
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| 16:16.03 | Iridos | http://www.winehq.org/download/debian |
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| 16:16.36 | Iridos | actually says "Debian Lenny, Squeeze und Sid", then only offers sid |
| 16:16.39 | wols | they link to carbon-project and have no own package anymore |
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| 16:17.13 | Iridos | oh |
| 16:17.14 | Iridos | right |
| 16:17.17 | wols | not too long ago they had packages for various debians, then they had the same as ubuntu and now this |
| 16:17.18 | Iridos | didn't follow further |
| 16:17.21 | samtuke | installing 6.02 64 gnome is taking ages - 2 hrs stuck on 'erasing data' as part of an encrypted lvm install. is this normal? why is it taking so long? |
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| 16:17.44 | wols | samtuke: cause your machine lacks entropy |
| 16:18.02 | wols | and/or your lvm filesystem is too big |
| 16:18.09 | thewanderer1 | uh, urandom is fast, but it's going to take a few hours, yes |
| 16:18.10 | samtuke | wols: its a single 500gb partition |
| 16:18.15 | thewanderer1 | especially on big hard didks |
| 16:18.17 | samtuke | on 5200rpm hdd |
| 16:18.35 | wols | samtuke: the limiting factor is probably your CPU, not the disk |
| 16:18.50 | samtuke | wols: hm ok |
| 16:18.50 | thewanderer1 | samtuke: just wait some more |
| 16:18.58 | wols | IIRC someone remakred urandom only uses a single core |
| 16:19.24 | wols | the install has to write random junk on all disk sectors before using it for the encrypted fs |
| 16:19.26 | samtuke | presumably it will take the same amount of time each time I do this install on the same hardware, because it will have to calculate entropy afresh? |
| 16:19.35 | thewanderer1 | samtuke: yes |
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| 16:20.04 | thewanderer1 | samtuke: if you're planning a mass deployment, you can copy the image between disks... but having the same encryption key everywhere might not be the smartest |
| 16:20.18 | samtuke | thewanderer1, wols, thanks for the info :) |
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| 16:21.16 | Iridos | wols, I was lost in translation... the wine page didn't come in english |
| 16:21.33 | Iridos | (but my local language) |
| 16:21.49 | wols | Iridos: you misconfigured your browser then. good browsers allow you to see the english version :P (if the website is working properly9 |
| 16:22.08 | zztr | i have a fresh install of debian and i'm having network issues. seems to be domain resolution. i can't get to google.com, but somehow pidgin is connecting to freenode ok, and apt-get seems to be able to download packages |
| 16:22.19 | harovali | I have dowloaded ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz (Release Version: 6.0.1) , but it refuses to install from a stable 6.0.2 dvd. I've put the boot image in a usb stick, which boots fine, and works, until I have to select the repo. There I instruct the installer to download packages from a local http server in my Lan, which serves 6.0.2.1. |
| 16:22.20 | harovali | a) why downloading from a 'current' place wouldn't get me a current image which is 'compatible for installation' with a current dvd ? |
| 16:22.20 | harovali | b) how can I tweak the installer to tell it to install the 6.0.2 anyway ? |
| 16:22.37 | zztr | i don't really know where to start with this |
| 16:22.40 | wols | Iridos: I have long ag set all my locale languages to english and stuff like timezones, keyboard, decimal point, etc to german :) |
| 16:22.53 | somiaj | zztr: ping google.com, ping freenode.net (see if any of those are resolving into ips) |
| 16:23.15 | wols | harovali: if you want to install from DVD, please use a .iso image |
| 16:23.46 | zztr | it looks like i can ping google.com |
| 16:23.56 | wols | zztr: what are the actual errors you encounter? |
| 16:23.59 | Iridos | wols, not misconfigured... the system just doesn't allow me to have it configured the way I want. I don't want english translations of originally german texts, neither do I want german translations of originally english texts... my language preference between those two is not clear, I prefer english for all not-originally-german stuff... there is no way to configure a browser like that |
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| 16:24.10 | somiaj | zztr: do you have to use a proxy server for the web? |
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| 16:24.31 | zztr | somiaj: no |
| 16:24.31 | Iridos | wols, if I configure it to english and go to the webpage of a german university I'm greeted with english text, which also sucks |
| 16:24.35 | jhutchins_lt | zztr: What kind of connection? Are other devices in your local net working and able to resolve domain names? What is your DNS? You seem to be saying you can resolve some domain names but not others. Can you ping numeric addresses reliably? What addresses resolve, what do not? What do they have in common? |
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| 16:24.56 | zztr | wols: "problem occurred while loading the url http://google.com/ cannot resolve hostname" |
| 16:25.18 | wols | zztr: try a different browser. e.g. lynx |
| 16:25.20 | zztr | jhutchins_lt: I don't have other devices |
| 16:25.25 | jhutchins_lt | zztr: What program is attempting to load the URL? |
| 16:25.48 | zztr | jhutchins_lt: both pidgin and the default web browser are having trouble |
| 16:25.55 | harovali | wols: I have mounted ISO's by loopback in the past and it works well. |
| 16:26.02 | zztr | jhutchins_lt: and curl |
| 16:26.21 | harovali | wols: Why wouldn't I renounce to having a loopbacked repo ? |
| 16:26.35 | zztr | if i paste the ip address that ping found into the browser, google loads |
| 16:27.24 | zztr | so i'm guessing some domains are cached |
| 16:27.50 | wols | harovali: I suggest you use the netinst. then don't install anything in the installer. first thing when you boot your new debian, edit your sources.list and then run "tasksel". have fun |
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| 16:28.12 | zztr | one weird thing is that i have two ethernet interfaces... not sure if that would cause issues |
| 16:28.30 | jhutchins_lt | zztr: Unplug your router, then disconnect the coaxial cable coming in to it. Connect a capacitor across the plug to drain the high frequency inductance from the cable, then reconnect it and you should be fine. |
| 16:28.31 | harovali | wols: I'll try |
| 16:28.36 | zztr | it didn't before. yesterday I had ubuntu natty on this box |
| 16:29.22 | wols | harovali: of course most experienced people installing debian skip the tasksel step altogether and simply use apt to install stuff they want. tasksel is a crutch. and not a very good one :) |
| 16:29.23 | zztr | jhutchins_lt: what do you mean "across the plug"? i don't have a capacitor... just something metal? it's dsl not coax |
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| 16:30.08 | th0r | zztr: some information deserves to be ignored |
| 16:30.18 | zztr | th0r: noted |
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| 16:31.01 | zztr | i mean this is obviously dns resolution. i'm using teh internets just fine |
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| 16:31.10 | sweb | which key code is ^@ in terminal ? how can i find out it ? for example Escape is ^[ |
| 16:31.20 | th0r | sweb: use xev |
| 16:32.01 | wols | zztr: sounds like your browser's resolver (ffox has its own afaik), is fubar |
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| 16:32.47 | jhutchins | zztr: You are not giving us enough information to determine the problem, just random bits of garble. My response is similar nonsense. You will probably find this just as useful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboencabulator |
| 16:33.11 | zztr | wols: not ffox, it's the debian browser. the about page just says "web browser 2.30.6" |
| 16:33.30 | wols | zztr: there is no "debian browser" |
| 16:33.53 | zztr | epiphany |
| 16:34.02 | sweb | th0r, not useful any reference is available ? |
| 16:34.35 | zztr | jhutchins: ask anything |
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| 16:35.14 | zztr | jhutchins: i don't know how to troubleshoot this |
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| 16:36.41 | th0r | sweb: haven't found any reference to ^@ |
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| 16:36.57 | wols | zztr: check if other browsers (lynx) behave the same |
| 16:37.18 | fosstux | Hi! I've just setupispconfig on a debian 6 Server. |
| 16:37.39 | sweb | th0r, my netbook keyboard lock to this character i want to which key is still connect. maybe @^ |
| 16:37.44 | fosstux | But I'm having problems connecting to the pure-ftpd server which uses tls. |
| 16:38.03 | sweb | th0r,CPU usage still on 80% to above and system is to slow |
| 16:38.09 | wols | !ispconfig |
| 16:38.09 | dpkg | ISPConfig is a web hosting control panel available under the BSD license. http://www.ispconfig.org/ |
| 16:38.19 | wols | sweb: what process uses all your cpu? |
| 16:38.26 | fosstux | I get AUTH TLS, then AUTH TLS OK and then gftp and filezilla seem to hang. |
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| 16:38.34 | jhutchins | zztr: It will help if you tell us how you configured your connection, and whether it is wireless or wifi. |
| 16:38.41 | sweb | th0r, my keyboard send this character repeatedly |
| 16:38.43 | wols | fosstux: why do you use a ftp server with tls? |
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| 16:38.56 | fosstux | Apparently the passwords are tried to be sent as cleartext which the server does not accept |
| 16:39.03 | zztr | jhutchins: it's ethernet to a dsl router |
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| 16:39.14 | fosstux | wols: because I don't want to give customers ssh access |
| 16:39.18 | jhutchins | zztr: What does the second ethernet interface connect to? |
| 16:39.23 | wols | !tell fosstux about scponly |
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| 16:39.31 | zztr | wols: lynx can't access it's start page and quits |
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| 16:39.44 | zztr | jhutchins: nothing |
| 16:39.54 | systemclient | say I am packaging and I still got package-1.2/debian there, uscan downloads 1.3.tar. How can I easily rename the folder to the current version and unpack the new original tarball? |
| 16:40.02 | zztr | jhutchins: I just have two |
| 16:40.13 | jhutchins | zztr: How did you configure the interface? Did you manually edit /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 16:40.27 | wols | fosstux: encrypted ftp is a mess and just like ftp should be taken out and shot. for its own good. it's a mercy killing |
| 16:40.38 | jhutchins | systemclient: mv |
| 16:40.39 | zztr | jhutchins: I just installed, that's all. auto configured, i guess? |
| 16:40.48 | jhutchins | !paste |
| 16:40.49 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 16:40.56 | sweb | th0r, please help me |
| 16:41.01 | systemclient | jhutchins: do I rename the folder and leave my debian in there or move the debian into the new folder? |
| 16:41.06 | jhutchins | zztr: pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:41.20 | jhutchins | systemclient: mv == move/rename |
| 16:41.46 | systemclient | jhutchins: just pack-1 to pack-1.3 and then unpack the tarball? |
| 16:41.53 | jhutchins | zztr: Also the result of ifconfig |
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| 16:42.30 | zztr | jhutchins: i'm having trouble getting to pastebins |
| 16:42.54 | jhutchins | systemclient: refering to the original question, I would back up the original folder then unpack the tarball, which should create a new folder with the new version. |
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| 16:43.00 | wols | !pastebinit |
| 16:43.01 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". |
| 16:43.06 | jhutchins | zztr: Use the same method, get the IP and use that. |
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| 16:43.40 | jhutchins | paste.debian.net has address 78.47.227.179 |
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| 16:44.21 | zztr | jhutchins: the ones i know are not giving appropriate responses to a direct ip address request. that one, too, says "nothing to see here" |
| 16:44.39 | wols | zztr: tried pastebinit? |
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| 16:44.48 | zztr | wols: doing that now |
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| 16:45.17 | wols | jhutchins: if most programs work but only browsers/a browser doesn't, then it' snot the network config that is the problem but the browser resolver apparently |
| 16:45.26 | wols | zztr: lynx <url>? |
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| 16:46.05 | amgarching | what if dont want to build all packages listed in debian/control? I deleted the entries some entries but it seems that dpkg-buildpackage still tries to build them. Do I miss something? |
| 16:46.07 | jhutchins | wols: Something systemic about the various resolvers. |
| 16:46.20 | jhutchins | wols: Possibly a proxy problem. |
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| 16:46.23 | zztr | wols: lynx http://archive.org/ does not work |
| 16:46.56 | wols | transparent mandatory ISP proxy. try a https page. https://facebook or such (they do https?) |
| 16:46.59 | jhutchins | wols: Also, if he installed over a previous ubnutu installation there might be cruft. |
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| 16:47.25 | wols | jhutchins: he isntalled over without erasing or removing the old filesystem? |
| 16:47.45 | jhutchins | wols: Just guessing, he didn't say. |
| 16:47.53 | zztr | jhutchins, wols: pastebinit is not able to resolve paste bins |
| 16:48.16 | zztr | jhutchins, wols: i formatted the drive |
| 16:48.35 | wols | I suggest a tcpdump/wireshark run to see what happens |
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| 16:49.38 | zztr | i gotta say, of the two things i need network for most, i'm glad irc and apt-get work |
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| 16:50.33 | zztr | installing tcpdump and wireshark now |
| 16:50.37 | jhutchins | I still think he needs to synchronize his cardinal grammeters and make sure the spurving bearings are aligned with the panametric fam. |
| 16:51.08 | zztr | jhutchins you should write pseudoscience blurbs for sci fi flicks |
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| 16:51.53 | wols | the question is why does apt-get work? if (most times) runs over http too. or do you use ftp:// ? |
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| 16:52.33 | jhutchins | zztr: Given that it's not leftover configuration cruft from ubuntu, I'm guessing that it's something to do with your dhcp and possibly running network-manager on top of a normal configuration in /etc/network/interfaces, which should be all you need for a static connection. |
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| 16:52.37 | zztr | wols: well, the domain is http://ftp.us.debian.org |
| 16:53.09 | jhutchins | zztr: Key word here is guessing, not enough information. |
| 16:53.10 | valdyn | zztr: lynx http://74.125.39.103 works ? |
| 16:53.18 | zztr | wireshark says: dumpcap: There are no interfaces on which a capture can be done |
| 16:53.37 | wols | zztr: do you run wireshark as root? |
| 16:53.48 | zztr | valdyn: that works |
| 16:53.55 | valdyn | zztr: broken resolver |
| 16:54.08 | zztr | wols: no, trying that |
| 16:54.10 | valdyn | zztr: "host google.com" works? |
| 16:54.20 | zztr | valdyn: no |
| 16:54.30 | Iridos | jhutchins, don't be silly, you need to align with the panametric fam first, only then can you successfully synchronize the cardinal grammeters |
| 16:54.34 | valdyn | zztr: if dig is installed "dig google.com" |
| 16:54.44 | wols | zztr: use 8.8.8.8 as DNS server then |
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| 16:55.06 | valdyn | I think the resolver is brokne, not the dns server, but worth a try i guess |
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| 16:55.29 | wols | valdyn: then why does it work with various programs and not others? |
| 16:55.36 | Iridos | well, proxy? |
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| 16:55.54 | zztr | valdyn: dig google.com gives results, but what do i do with it? |
| 16:56.10 | Iridos | with gnome-proxy settings a nonfunctioning proxy would kill some programs (that honor it), leave others alone |
| 16:56.17 | valdyn | wols: different resolver usage, I cant provide the library calls that could explain the difference |
| 16:56.23 | zztr | wols: how do i change my dns server to 8.8.8.8? |
| 16:56.27 | Iridos | but using IPs shouldn't use either |
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| 16:56.32 | Iridos | s/use/work/ |
| 16:56.46 | wols | zztr: edit /etc/resolv.conf |
| 16:56.49 | valdyn | zztr: you want to show us your /etc/nsswitch.conf and tell us if you messed with that file |
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| 16:58.04 | valdyn | zztr: if the results of that dig usage are showing that google.com resolves properly then you know that your nameserver is fine |
| 16:58.38 | valdyn | zztr: dig does not use the system resolver library |
| 16:58.47 | zztr | valdyn: i just joined an empty channel, #impastinghere where i can put stuff instead of a pastebin |
| 16:58.51 | valdyn | zztr: "host google.com" deos though |
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| 17:00.47 | valdyn | zztr: paste the result for that dig query too |
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| 17:01.28 | valdyn | zztr: and "host google.com" too if anything about it is unclear |
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| 17:04.16 | valdyn | zztr: so "host google.com" works fine, but you said it didnt work |
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| 17:04.56 | zztr | i did? i must have been confused about what i was answering to |
| 17:04.57 | zztr | not sure |
| 17:05.10 | valdyn | zztr: ok, probably |
| 17:05.32 | valdyn | zztr: "telnet google.com 80", then GET, see what you get |
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| 17:05.52 | zztr | telnet: could not resolve google.com/80: Name or service not known |
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| 17:06.52 | valdyn | zztr: ok, just "telnet google.com" then |
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| 17:07.32 | zztr | telnet: could not resolve google.com/telnet: Name or service not known |
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| 17:07.57 | valdyn | zztr: very nice, host can resolve names, dig can, telnet cannot |
| 17:08.08 | valdyn | zztr: is libnss-mdns installed? |
| 17:08.10 | adac | tried to add this cronjob to the deployer user crontab, but it doesn't get executed: |
| 17:08.12 | adac | */30 * * * * /bin/sh /home/deployer/restart.sh > /home/deployer/restart.log 2>&1 |
| 17:08.21 | adac | any ideas what might be wrong? |
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| 17:08.54 | zztr | libnss-mdns is already the newest version. |
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| 17:09.25 | valdyn | zztr: aptitude reinstall libnss-mdns |
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| 17:10.52 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 17:11.34 | valdyn | adac: you used crontab -e for this? |
| 17:12.03 | zztr | valdyn: jhutchins: neither of those changed the behavior of telnet |
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| 17:12.39 | samael | hello |
| 17:12.50 | adac | sure thing valdyn. I also tried this dummy one: */1 * * * * ls -a > /home/deployer/test.log > 2>&1 doesn't work either |
| 17:12.57 | zztr | maybe i should just try a restart at this point. brb |
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| 17:13.30 | SixThreeOh | What does debian use for scanning filesystems for errorsand repairing? |
| 17:13.33 | samael | debian squeeze: how can I interrupt a startup script during boot process? ctrl+c has no effect |
| 17:14.00 | adac | valdyn, oh there is a spelling eror in it one > too much. let me test it without it ;) |
| 17:14.02 | Iridos | SixThreeOh, fsck, like any linux I know |
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| 17:17.53 | SixThreeOh | Iridos damn... I need it from an installation shell. I guess it just dosn't have it. |
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| 17:18.06 | SixThreeOh | Ah wait it does thanks |
| 17:18.13 | SixThreeOh | Just fs extenion naming convention |
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| 17:18.23 | SixThreeOh | Tab to the rescue's rescue. |
| 17:18.36 | adac | valdyn, no luck |
| 17:18.46 | Iridos | right... fsck just chooses fsck.<yourfilesystem> |
| 17:18.47 | adac | simply doesn't work |
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| 17:19.29 | zztr | valdyn: reboot didn't help |
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| 17:20.33 | Iridos | zztr, did you look into /etc/hosts |
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| 17:21.24 | zztr | there isn't much there |
| 17:21.37 | zztr | Iridos: what would I do with it? |
| 17:21.53 | Iridos | look for strange stuff |
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| 17:22.07 | Iridos | I guess pastebinit doesn't work either? |
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| 17:22.15 | zztr | Iridos: join #impastinghere |
| 17:22.27 | zztr | Iridos: no it doesn't |
| 17:22.30 | Iridos | nah, I believe you that nothing much is in there :) |
| 17:22.37 | Iridos | what about echo $http_proxy |
| 17:22.44 | Iridos | hm, no |
| 17:22.47 | Iridos | telnet would ignore that |
| 17:23.13 | zztr | Iridos: it's blank anyway |
| 17:23.42 | Iridos | so what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf just one nameserver.... line? |
| 17:24.01 | zztr | yup |
| 17:24.05 | zztr | looks like my router |
| 17:24.06 | zztr | nameserver 192.168.1.254 |
| 17:24.23 | Iridos | but you had that already changed to 8.8.8.8 |
| 17:24.47 | zztr | i didn't. i thought that wasn't it, but i'll try |
| 17:25.12 | Iridos | sounds unlikely, but can't hurt |
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| 17:25.46 | Iridos | hm |
| 17:25.49 | Iridos | look at /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 17:26.06 | zztr | holy crap |
| 17:26.12 | zztr | 8.8.8.8 seems to work |
| 17:26.52 | zztr | yeah, curl and telnet and epiphany seems to resolve things now |
| 17:27.00 | zztr | so what is 8.8.8.8 anyway? |
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| 17:28.34 | zztr | ok, a google dns server. |
| 17:30.41 | zztr | Iridos: valdyn, wols, thank you very much for your time spent trying to figure this out |
| 17:31.34 | zztr | i still don't know why using a different dns server suddenly works, but i'll take it |
| 17:32.00 | skilz | how can I get borderless urxvt in gnome? |
| 17:33.06 | zztr | and jhutchins, thanks too |
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| 17:41.09 | kittonian | i upgraded from sarge to lenny yesterday (let me tell, what a nightmare) and finally have everything working except that I apparently had a command run at boot time (an echo command to forward traffic as this is a router box) |
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| 17:41.32 | kittonian | since the upgrade that command no longer gets run at boot time so I assume it was in some script that was updated |
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| 17:41.52 | kittonian | how do I ensure that the echo command is run so that I don't have to do it by hand? |
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| 17:43.27 | dkr | kittonian: edit /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 17:43.38 | jelly-home | kittonian: what exactly does it do |
| 17:43.54 | dkr | enable the ip forwarding setting, I was assuming |
| 17:44.23 | dkr | echoing is old-fashioned/manual way to do it. sysctl is the new black. ;) |
| 17:44.40 | boudiccas | kittonian; did you have problems with the change from lilo to grub? |
| 17:45.44 | kittonian | boudiccas: still running lilo |
| 17:46.10 | boudiccas | kittonian; oh! i thought that you'd have problems with lilo >> grub |
| 17:46.17 | kittonian | dkr: I see the line you are talking about. is uncommenting that one line the same as running the echo command? |
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| 17:46.49 | kittonian | boudiccas: thought about using grub but there was no reason and to be honest i couldn't care less about a bootloader |
| 17:46.58 | dkr | kittonian: correct. sysctl makes those settings based on that conf file at boot |
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| 17:49.05 | mplabs | Hello guys |
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| 17:49.59 | seb82 | hey all... i've been trying to use multistrap to install a an image with debian which I can chroot... so far it was a very basic installation without network -tools... though there is a network connection and no apt nor aptitude.. |
| 17:50.01 | mplabs | I have formatted my USB drive using gparted so now it has just one extended partition and inside it a FAT32 one |
| 17:50.16 | kittonian | dkr: thank you. i just read up on it and that was exactly what I needed. really appreciate it |
| 17:50.17 | mplabs | why is Linux still showing me that it has two partitions? |
| 17:50.44 | seb82 | my latests attempt is adding apt and aptitude to the packages section of the config file for multistrap |
| 17:52.19 | seb82 | so far it has given me a user name instead of 'I have no name' |
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| 17:53.07 | mplabs | gparted says it only has one partition of 1.88GB (aprox) but Linux says it has two partitions. in one of them there's a Debian USB live, but it shouldn't be there anymore! |
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| 17:54.29 | seb82 | gparted, did you apply your changes? |
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| 17:54.39 | mplabs | sure :P |
| 17:54.48 | seb82 | and formatted your drive? |
| 17:54.51 | mplabs | yes |
| 17:55.01 | mplabs | I reopened it and it says there's just one partition |
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| 17:55.26 | mplabs | but then I can mount another one that has a USB live! |
| 17:55.33 | seb82 | did you unmount and remounted it? |
| 17:55.38 | mplabs | yes |
| 17:55.55 | mplabs | I tried removing the usb stick too |
| 17:56.12 | seb82 | what do you want to do with the usb stick? |
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| 17:56.30 | mplabs | I just want to have one FAT32 partition at the moment |
| 17:57.03 | seb82 | have you tried using fdisk from prompt? |
| 17:57.09 | mplabs | no, let me try |
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| 17:57.24 | seb82 | remember that you then will have to format it by hand... |
| 17:57.36 | mplabs | yes |
| 17:57.47 | mplabs | let me see what the parameters should be |
| 17:58.09 | seb82 | wot is the dev-link of the usb? |
| 17:58.25 | mplabs | /dev/sdb |
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| 17:58.32 | seb82 | fdisk /dev/sdb |
| 17:59.06 | seb82 | and firstly see wot the partitiontable is like by pressing p and <enter> |
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| 17:59.23 | mplabs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.23 | mplabs | /dev/sdb1 1 246 1975963 5 Extended |
| 17:59.23 | mplabs | Warning: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. |
| 17:59.23 | mplabs | /dev/sdb5 1 246 1967962 b FAT32 |
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| 17:59.58 | mplabs | that's exactly the same gparted shows me |
| 18:00.06 | seb82 | why do you use an extended partition? |
| 18:00.21 | seb82 | if you only have one partition... you should use primary |
| 18:00.53 | mplabs | does it work in Windows too? I need to mount it on another computer that doesn't have Linux :| |
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| 18:01.26 | mplabs | actually it was Ext2 30 minutes ago but I had to change it |
| 18:01.55 | mplabs | s/Ext2/Ext3/ |
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| 18:03.28 | seb82 | exit fdisk q I believe and with gparted remove the partition... create a new one and make it primary |
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| 18:04.18 | Odaym | when I go to the volume icon on my panel and then press on Volume Control, my DM crashes and I get returned back to the login screen, any idea why this would happen? It was suggested that I check logs for crashes but I have no idea which logs to check |
| 18:04.24 | mplabs | I thought Windows didn't work with Fat32 primary partitions |
| 18:04.30 | me-1 | Hi...I have problems with sound here are the details.kindly help me http://paste.debian.net/130443/ |
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| 18:05.00 | seb82 | sure it does |
| 18:05.33 | mplabs | ok, so now it only has one primary FAT32 partition |
| 18:05.49 | boudiccas | Odaym; what version of debian are you using? |
| 18:05.51 | seb82 | formatted and all? |
| 18:05.55 | wols | Odaym: since a DM has no volume control it cannot crash as you stated |
| 18:05.56 | mplabs | I still can see two in Linux and fdisk show me this warning: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary |
| 18:06.04 | mplabs | seb82, yes |
| 18:06.17 | wols | and you should check your .xsession-errors file for example |
| 18:06.21 | Odaym | I'm using Squeeze, boudiccas |
| 18:06.26 | seb82 | lemme think mplabs |
| 18:06.29 | mplabs | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.30 | mplabs | /dev/sdb1 1 246 1975963 b FAT32 |
| 18:06.31 | wols | seb82: it doesn't anymore |
| 18:06.34 | boudiccas | Odaym; and what DM? |
| 18:06.53 | Odaym | I'm sorry but maybe I have it mixed up between DM and DE |
| 18:06.55 | Odaym | I am using Gnome 2.3 |
| 18:06.59 | me-1 | I need help about sound http://paste.debian.net/130443/ |
| 18:07.04 | thewanderer1 | Odaym: logs should be in ~/.xsession-errors |
| 18:07.15 | Odaym | I am viewing them now |
| 18:07.23 | wols | me-1: which driver is used for your built in broken soundcard? |
| 18:07.34 | seb82 | wols: wot doesn't? |
| 18:07.44 | wols | seb82: windows |
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| 18:07.57 | seb82 | what doesn't it wols? |
| 18:07.57 | mplabs | seb82, is there a way to remove absolutely everything even the partition table it may have? |
| 18:07.58 | me-1 | wols, [CMI8738 ]: CMI8738 - C-Media CMI8738 |
| 18:07.58 | me-1 | C-Media CMI8738 (model 37) at 0x9800, irq 10 |
| 18:08.09 | wols | seb82: able to use fat32 as primary system partition |
| 18:08.14 | seb82 | mplabs, yes but then you can use the device anymore |
| 18:08.23 | seb82 | wols: since when? |
| 18:08.23 | wols | me-1: I asked for what driver it uses, not what chip it is |
| 18:08.41 | mplabs | I add: and then be able to recreate one table from scratch :P |
| 18:08.49 | wols | seb82: vista or so |
| 18:08.52 | Odaym | would it be alright if I pastebinned the log for someone to view? because I have no idea what's written there, I did a find for "volume" and there were two seemingly-insignificant errors |
| 18:08.58 | wols | seb82: ask google if you want specifics. or a windows channel |
| 18:09.04 | me-1 | wols, well how do i know it..? |
| 18:09.11 | seb82 | wols: thanks for the info... |
| 18:09.13 | wols | me-1: lsmod |
| 18:09.14 | Odaym | I think it would be wise to reproduce this error right now and then see what appears in the log |
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| 18:10.05 | wols | Odaym: don't log in via DM again. simply check the file on a text console |
| 18:10.05 | seb82 | mplabs... we gonna try something diffrent... |
| 18:10.20 | mplabs | alright |
| 18:10.22 | Odaym | yes, because it would be the last error that occurred, right? |
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| 18:10.52 | wols | yes. but can be many lines |
| 18:10.56 | Odaym | alright |
| 18:10.59 | Odaym | be right back, then |
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| 18:11.21 | me-1 | wols, I am away from my debian PC what do you suggest me |
| 18:11.43 | wols | I suggest to find out the driver name for the card and blacklist that driver. /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 18:12.20 | LordDeath | i think I have finally finished the configuration of my first linux server :) |
| 18:12.32 | wols | me-1: basically what probably happens is one time the solo1 is used as the first card in alsa, sometimes the cmi one. and only if the solo1 is the "default" you can hear anything |
| 18:12.38 | LordDeath | powered by debian of course ^^ |
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| 18:13.45 | me-1 | wols, yes I want solo1 to be default and debian forget about broken one |
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| 18:14.41 | wols | me-1: I told you what to do. see /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 18:16.13 | me-1 | wols, i cant see any dpkg message |
| 18:17.07 | boudiccas | me-1; you message dpkg |
| 18:17.12 | wols | did you type the /msg ? |
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| 18:19.38 | me-1 | wols, I got it and really appriciate you help . thank you |
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| 18:28.57 | keith4 | in octal mode strings like "0700" or "0664", what first digit represents setgid and/or setuid? |
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| 18:34.44 | keith4 | oh, nevermind. it's in the wikipedia article, i just missed it the first time. sorry! |
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| 18:35.03 | ikrabbe1 | keith4: by reading chmod(2) you can see the values too. |
| 18:35.32 | keith4 | ikrabbe1: good to know. thanks! |
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| 18:36.19 | MarconM | how i install full gnome on debian |
| 18:36.25 | MarconM | apt-get install gnome gnome-extra |
| 18:36.26 | MarconM | ? |
| 18:36.35 | MarconM | is this right ? |
| 18:37.37 | thewanderer1 | MarconM: gnome-desktop-environment |
| 18:37.52 | MarconM | thewanderer1: thanks man |
| 18:38.02 | wols | !tell MarconM about install gnome |
| 18:38.25 | MarconM | i ll try to config xmonad in gnome |
| 18:38.27 | wols | MarconM: there are 3 different ways to instal it depending how much of it you want |
| 18:38.40 | MarconM | wols ... complete install |
| 18:38.50 | MarconM | or default instalation |
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| 18:39.19 | seb82 | debian chroot working so far... |
| 18:39.27 | seb82 | with apt and aptitude |
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| 18:39.29 | seb82 | lol |
| 18:39.41 | no_gravity | Good Evening from Germany! I try to run an application (Blender) but it tells me libSDL-1.2.so.0 is missing. Any idea what to do? |
| 18:39.59 | seb82 | install libSDL no_gravity... |
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| 18:40.20 | thewanderer1 | no_gravity: did you download Blender from the website instead of properly installing it through apt? |
| 18:40.22 | seb82 | no-gravity look it up with aptitude serach... |
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| 18:40.28 | seb82 | *search |
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| 18:40.53 | no_gravity | thewanderer1: yes, from the website. blender is in the debian repositories? |
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| 18:41.27 | no_gravity | seb82: i never used aptitude. i alway use apt. apt-cache "search libsdl" returns null. |
| 18:41.58 | seb82 | aptitude = almost apt ... |
| 18:42.08 | thewanderer1 | no_gravity: yes. apt-cache show blender |
| 18:42.12 | seb82 | I use apt as well to install but aptitude search proves to be very handy |
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| 18:43.38 | no_gravity | thewanderer1: oh, yes. i will install it via apt-get then. |
| 18:43.40 | seb82 | how can I install pubkeys in chroot for debian gpg? |
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| 18:43.46 | wols | aptitude, especially the search is much more powerful but has an atrocious UI |
| 18:43.46 | no_gravity | thewanderer1: thank you! |
| 18:43.59 | seb82 | wols, thx for splainy!! |
| 18:44.15 | thewanderer1 | no_gravity: hopefully you didn't unpack it system-wide... otherwise, remove the old cruft first before installing from packages |
| 18:44.17 | wols | splainy? |
| 18:44.34 | seb82 | as in splaining... |
| 18:45.00 | no_gravity | thewanderer1: unpack system wide? i just untarred it. |
| 18:45.32 | thewanderer1 | no_gravity: in home directory, right? |
| 18:46.25 | no_gravity | thewanderer1: well, i made a directory "blender-verion-number" in the home dir. i dont think it will collide with the version from the repo. |
| 18:46.41 | no_gravity | unfortunately now it tells me "extension GLX missing". |
| 18:46.41 | thewanderer1 | no_gravity: that's ok then, go ahead |
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| 18:47.07 | thewanderer1 | no_gravity: hmm, is your GLX working? |
| 18:47.50 | wols | no_gravity: what videocard and what driver do you use? |
| 18:47.53 | no_gravity | thewanderer1: i have no clue, what "my GLX" is. |
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| 18:48.23 | no_gravity | wols: good question. its a virtual machine. i alway use virtual machines in the cloud for everything. |
| 18:48.50 | thewanderer1 | no_gravity: Blender needs graphical acceleration... it's not going to work in a virtual machine O.o |
| 18:49.23 | wols | thewanderer1: it might, if the VM provides accel. some do |
| 18:49.23 | no_gravity | thewanderer1: well, good bye blender then. i continue to develop my web based renderer then. |
| 18:49.37 | wols | webgl doesn't work without either |
| 18:49.39 | thewanderer1 | wols: in the "cloud"? O.o |
| 18:49.47 | no_gravity | wols: do you have experience with VMs with graphic acceleration? |
| 18:49.59 | no_gravity | wols: my web based renderer is pure javascript. no webgl. |
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| 18:50.06 | wols | thewanderer1: you can rent nvidia GF580 equipped machines (mainly for GPU but I bet linux can use it for X just fine) |
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| 18:50.20 | wols | no_gravity: thanks for that laugh |
| 18:50.54 | wols | no_gravity: I look forward to your recreation of Elite for javascript. have you implemented bresenham's yet? |
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| 18:51.05 | thewanderer1 | no_gravity: I once managed to run GLX over XDMCP ("native X11"), but I'm not sure where the rendering is done really. presumably it's on the client. |
| 18:51.11 | no_gravity | wols: do the amazon ec2 machines have that? i have an account there, so i could fire up one. |
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| 18:51.36 | wols | no_gravity: some do. read how people used them to crack WPA keys |
| 18:52.08 | thewanderer1 | usually GPU clusters are used for rendering farms, not for launching the X11 front-end itself |
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| 18:54.18 | wols | $2.10 per hour for a dual socket E5570 and 2 Tesla 2050 |
| 18:54.25 | wols | per hour that is |
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| 18:54.49 | wols | thewanderer1: blender is a renderer, no? and X doesn't care where the screen is, right? |
| 18:55.10 | wols | you need nvidia drivers for your tesla tho. which micht be a bummer |
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| 18:58.02 | steven91 | test |
| 18:58.26 | namtorba | fail |
| 18:58.37 | Iridos | 1096 fail |
| 18:58.48 | steven91 | is anyone out there REALLY proficient w/ crontab? ive had like 3 people try to figure out why mine dont run right and i havent got to the bottom of it. could anyone possibly look at my problem? |
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| 18:59.09 | steven91 | the scripts arent even really hard, simple one-line scripts |
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| 18:59.57 | Iridos | didn't set PATH? |
| 19:00.30 | steven91 | who me? |
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| 19:01.20 | K4k | If I have stable installed on my machine and want to change to using testing. Can I just switch my sources.list file to point to the testing repositories and if so do I just change "squeeze" to "wheezy"? |
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| 19:06.15 | gary_golden | I'm looking for a small caching proxy which I would run for myself on localhost. I don't require any ACL features, I just want to save bandwidth. squid wants me to read too much for such simple task |
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| 19:06.57 | steven91 | so no CRONTAB pros...? |
| 19:07.03 | clustermagnet | guys, question. how does one allign the lspci with lsmod :) i need to know specifically which .ko is responsible for my ethernet card |
| 19:07.14 | namtorba | you don't, it does |
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| 19:07.19 | namtorba | clustermagnet: lspci -k |
| 19:07.28 | clustermagnet | namtorba: thanks! one sec |
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| 19:07.50 | clustermagnet | namtorba: omg, thank you |
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| 19:08.00 | namtorba | clustermagnet: also see ethtool |
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| 19:08.59 | clustermagnet | namtorba: if it says, e1000e kernel module is in use⦠which .ko file would that be? |
| 19:09.17 | clustermagnet | i need to port a module into clonezilla, just need the kernel module file :) |
| 19:09.18 | clustermagnet | thanks dood |
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| 19:12.45 | boudiccas | steven91; you havent really asked a question, try phrasing a question with pastebin examples to show what you mean |
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| 19:14.15 | namtorba | clustermagnet: uh .. e1000e.ko ? |
| 19:14.38 | namtorba | judd: file e1000e.ko --release squeeze |
| 19:14.43 | judd | e1000e.ko in squeeze/i386: linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-686: lib/modules/2.6.32-5-xen-686/kernel/drivers/net/e1000e/e1000e.ko; linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem: lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686-bigmem/kernel/drivers/net/e1000e/e1000e.ko; linux-image-2.6.32-5-vserver-686-bigmem: lib/modules/2.6.32-5-vserver-686-bigmem/kernel/drivers/net/e1000e/e1000e.ko; linux-image-2.6.32-5-686: |
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| 19:16.44 | mathbr | Hi. I tried to set up a bootable USB drive to install Debian Squeeze on my new box. Now my USB drive seems broken. I cannot access it via (c)fdisk anymore. Dmesg upon attaching it to my main machine: |
| 19:16.44 | mathbr | http://pastebin.com/i2DpM424 |
| 19:17.08 | mathbr | cfdisk tells me "FATAL ERROR: Cannot read disk drive" |
| 19:17.40 | clustermagnet | namtorba: thank you sir! |
| 19:17.44 | clustermagnet | ill ping if i break anything :) |
| 19:18.20 | boudiccas | mathbr; can you mount it? |
| 19:18.36 | Black_Prince | mathbr, try zero-filling it. (EXTREME CAUTION: It will even destroy partition table - full format) |
| 19:18.44 | mathbr | boudiccas: Nope: "mount: /dev/sdd: can't read superblock" |
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| 19:19.30 | mathbr | Black_Prince: Nothing to loose here. ;-) |
| 19:20.32 | Black_Prince | mathbr, if your drive is /dev/sdd try running dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd bs=1M (AGAIN, double, no tripple check if your drive is /dev/sdd to overcome loss of data) |
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| 19:21.07 | mathbr | Black_Prince: Running as regular user which is part of the floppy group, all other drives are owned by the "disk" group. :-) |
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| 19:22.01 | Black_Prince | mathbr, iirc dd command should be run as root :-| |
| 19:22.09 | mathbr | Now even after zero-filling I get the same errors. :-/ |
| 19:22.15 | mathbr | dd worked fine as it seems. |
| 19:22.23 | mathbr | Uh not |
| 19:22.44 | mathbr | OK, did. It only (obviously) ran out of space. |
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| 19:23.14 | Black_Prince | mathbr, now try doing fdisk -l and see if there's sdd |
| 19:23.23 | mathbr | I cannot even cat /dev/sdd without getting I/O errors |
| 19:23.41 | boudiccas | mathbr; sounds lioke its f**ked |
| 19:23.44 | boudiccas | like |
| 19:23.55 | mathbr | No /dev/sdd on fdisk output |
| 19:24.12 | mathbr | It worked, like 30 mins ago? |
| 19:24.38 | boudiccas | is it a thumb/pen usb drive? |
| 19:24.59 | mathbr | Kind of, looks like a fat credit card. |
| 19:25.10 | Black_Prince | mathbr, try fdisk /dev/sdd |
| 19:25.12 | boudiccas | ah, cheap and nasty |
| 19:25.31 | mathbr | boudiccas: I wouldnât need it anymore after this. ;-) |
| 19:25.43 | mathbr | Black_Prince: I/O error |
| 19:25.57 | Black_Prince | mathbr, it's screwed ... |
| 19:26.04 | mathbr | I donât want to use my good Sandisk blacky for this. :-/ |
| 19:26.40 | mathbr | I could try one SD card via card reader but now I obviously fear breaking that one too. :-/ |
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| 19:29.13 | mathbr | Meh. Just got my new ZBOX Nano from Zotac today and wanted to set up a very small Debian on it. |
| 19:29.22 | thewanderer1 | I've had I/O errors because of static... or just think it was due to that |
| 19:29.49 | thewanderer1 | ground it or something... |
| 19:30.00 | boudiccas | mathbr; does it have a dvd/cd drive? |
| 19:30.16 | thewanderer1 | who needs CD when you have PXE boot :P |
| 19:30.22 | boudiccas | true |
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| 19:30.33 | mathbr | boudiccas: No place for such a thing: http://www.netbooknews.de/wp-content/uploads/ZBOX-NANO-AD10_image2-800x600.jpg ;-) |
| 19:31.01 | thewanderer1 | I hope it at least has Ethernet |
| 19:31.14 | mathbr | thewanderer1: Yep. :-) |
| 19:31.40 | thewanderer1 | then it's a piece of cake :P |
| 19:31.54 | mathbr | thewanderer1: Hints are welcome. |
| 19:31.58 | boudiccas | thewanderer1; fruit cake? |
| 19:32.08 | thewanderer1 | boudiccas: cheese cake, sorry |
| 19:32.19 | boudiccas | oh well, thats just as nice |
| 19:33.12 | thewanderer1 | mathbr: you know how to set up PXE boot... if not, DuckDuckGo or Google surely does :) (oh wait, there should be a Debian Reference section too!) |
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| 19:35.05 | mathbr | thewanderer1: From the first look this does not seem like a piece of cake at all. |
| 19:35.37 | seb82 | thewanderer1: I guess he ate 'm all |
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| 19:35.50 | thewanderer1 | mathbr: you can install from a pendrive too if you don't want to bother with DHCP and TFTP |
| 19:36.18 | boudiccas | thewanderer1; he cant install from the pen drive , its f**ked |
| 19:36.29 | thewanderer1 | back to PXE |
| 19:37.00 | thewanderer1 | mathbr: you need a server for that. any computer with an Ethernet port will work... a switch or a cross-over cable is necessary too |
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| 19:38.15 | mathbr | So WiFi wonât do I guess. |
| 19:38.43 | keith4 | probably not |
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| 19:44.38 | mathbr | OK, I found some PXE options in the ZBOX BIOS and itâs the first thing it tries to boot from now. Now letâs see if I can manage the rest. ;-) |
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| 19:45.10 | kittonian | hi all |
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| 19:45.50 | kittonian | is anyone here really familiar with netfilter/iptables? no one is around in the #netfilter channel and i need some help with SIP |
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| 19:47.03 | kittonian | first off, and please bear in mind that this config was originally written in 2002 and i just updated the box yesterday to run kernel 2.6.26 and Lenny (from sarge) |
| 19:47.08 | kittonian | here is the pastebin of my current config |
| 19:47.08 | kittonian | http://pastebin.com/ERTPCW7G |
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| 19:48.35 | kittonian | right now, though everything "works", our Vonage device passes traffic no matter what port it is set to (i.e. we have tried limiting it to 12000:14000 and making those changes in the iptables script, but when Vonage sets it back to 10000:12000 everything still works) |
| 19:49.18 | kittonian | honestly it didn't make any sense to me and then someone in the #netfilter channel said I needed the later kernel/OS because nf_conntrack_sip needed to be compiled into the kernel |
| 19:49.34 | kittonian | so I've gone through all of that and have every available netfilter option in the kernel |
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| 19:50.15 | mathbr | Oh boy, this is gonna be fun: I donât have a crossover cable (never needed one), only patch. :-/ |
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| 19:50.26 | kittonian | but i have no idea how to modify the script so that all my rules still work, my network is protected, and when I NAT the SIP device (i.e. the Vonage box) to only listen and route over a specific port range, it is truly limited to that port range and nothing else |
| 19:51.29 | mathbr | I have my EasyBox from Vodafone which can act as a switch and has DHCP. Could I somehow manage with this? |
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| 19:54.52 | Aethaeryn | I don't have an /etc/sysconfig... Does debian do things differently? |
| 19:55.22 | wols | yes. debian is not RH or suse |
| 19:55.40 | wols | maybe you tell us what you want to do, and we can tell you how to do it |
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| 19:56.14 | Aethaeryn | I'm learning about the internals of various Linux distros. |
| 19:56.20 | Aethaeryn | So it's more general of a question. |
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| 19:56.48 | Aethaeryn | /etc/sysconfig appears to ahve network and iptables... Those are probably the most relevant things I'd want to be able to know about in the Debian-style distros. |
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| 19:57.41 | Aethaeryn | Does Debian even have an equivalent to /etc/sysconfig/network? |
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| 19:58.18 | battaglin | ./etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:59.54 | kittonian | really? no one familiar with iptables and routing? |
| 20:00.10 | Aethaeryn | battaglin: Where is the hostname stored, then? |
| 20:00.30 | Aethaeryn | battaglin: In the standard RH-based world, there's a HOSTNAME= for /etc/sysconfig/network |
| 20:00.33 | battaglin | /etc/hosts |
| 20:00.33 | boudiccas | kittonian; maybe the gurus arent online now, just keep asking i advise |
| 20:00.34 | battaglin | ? |
| 20:00.47 | Aethaeryn | ah |
| 20:01.05 | battaglin | your used to centos? |
| 20:01.50 | Aethaeryn | battaglin: I'm a Fedora desktop user for many, many years. I now have to get into various server-oriented distros. Naturally, CentOS has had the gentlest learning curve. |
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| 20:11.21 | ritualsound | hi |
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| 20:20.33 | Iridos | wols,finally finished compiling the wine-unstable package from that carbon-project (well, probably some hours ago and didn't notice) .. .any rationale as to what packages to install of the plethora of libwine* packages? |
| 20:20.49 | mathbr | It really sucks if you enter "su", immediately press Cursor Up and Enter, being sure you mis-typed the password only to see that the last command you ran as root was "reboot" :-/ |
| 20:20.53 | Iridos | I ended up with... libwine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5_i386.deb wine-bin-unstable_1.3.28-0.5_i386.deb libwine-bin-unstable_1.3.28-0.5_i386.deb libwine-gl-unstable_1.3.28-0.5_i386.deb libwine-print-unstable_1.3.28-0.5_i386.deb wine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5_i386.deb |
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| 20:21.40 | Iridos | mathbr, if you mis-type the password, really mis-type the password? |
| 20:22.00 | Iridos | you could configure bash not to save "reboot" and "shutdown" commands in the history :) |
| 20:22.03 | mathbr | I wish I had. ^^ |
| 20:22.30 | mathbr | Iridos: Iâll do that now. <_< |
| 20:22.32 | Iridos | on the other hand this was educational |
| 20:22.37 | Iridos | bet it'll not happen again |
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| 20:23.05 | julius_ | hi |
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| 20:23.19 | julius_ | how do you search with apt-cache for installed packages only? |
| 20:23.31 | Iridos | you don't |
| 20:23.56 | julius_ | whats the right tool for the job? |
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| 20:24.22 | Iridos | aptitude could do it if you can figure out the syntax |
| 20:24.30 | Iridos | what exactly are you searching for |
| 20:24.35 | jelly-home | or dpkg -l | grep ^.i |
| 20:25.12 | julius_ | if a package containing iscsi in its name is installed |
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| 20:26.00 | Iridos | then what jelly said dpkg -l |grep iscsi |
| 20:26.20 | julius_ | ok, thx |
| 20:26.22 | mathbr | Great, now I cannot start tftpd-hpa anymore. >_> |
| 20:27.10 | Iridos | oh, nevermind, I see you better install them all anyway |
| 20:27.36 | Iridos | oh, actually |
| 20:27.40 | Iridos | dpkg, installed packages |
| 20:27.40 | dpkg | To list installed packages, dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; or aptitude search -F '%p' '~i'; or ask me about <aptitude clone>, <debian clone>. See also <installed test>. For one package, use "dpkg -l packagename" or "apt-cache policy packagename" or (from squeeze onwards) "aptitude versions packagename". |
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| 20:30.01 | Umeaboy | Megaf: Hi! |
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| 20:30.12 | Umeaboy | 'zup? |
| 20:30.13 | julius_ | ah yes, the awk filters auf the package description. can be usefull |
| 20:30.14 | julius_ | thx |
| 20:30.32 | mike111 | Hi! Why i cant "chown -R root:root something" as a regular user? |
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| 20:31.40 | jelly-home | for obvious reasons |
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| 20:32.41 | mike111 | and what if a need to do "chown -R root:root something" as a regular user? |
| 20:32.55 | xf_merc | mike111: you cant. end of. |
| 20:32.58 | thewanderer1 | mike111: see man 7 capabilities and man 1 chown |
| 20:33.38 | thewanderer1 | mike111: in 93.581% of cases this is solved by using fakeroot to fool programs |
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| 20:34.39 | mike111 | thanks |
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| 20:42.21 | travis134 | quick question: is there any way to list non primary harddrives? |
| 20:42.43 | travis134 | for example, can I see all drives connected to my computer except the drive that's currently booted? |
| 20:42.59 | xf_merc | travis134: (as root) fdisk -l? |
| 20:43.08 | xf_merc | (without the ? mark) |
| 20:43.17 | travis134 | that shows all including the system disk no? |
| 20:43.29 | xf_merc | travis134: true, but you could filter it. |
| 20:43.44 | cwong | i have a rt8188su wireless card and i want it to work with kismet. whats the source i use to launch it? |
| 20:43.46 | travis134 | basically I am making a computer strictly meant for wiping drives automatically, I just want to get a list of all connected non system disks, and dd zeros to them |
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| 20:44.10 | xf_merc | travis134: You could just use darik's boot and nuke |
| 20:44.22 | xf_merc | travis134: Does exactly that, but doesn't need anything other than a bootable cd |
| 20:44.32 | travis134 | Really? That's awesome |
| 20:44.36 | travis134 | I'll check into it, thank you |
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| 20:47.09 | xf_merc | travis134: Just be careful, it does exactly what it says on the tin. Don't be tempted to boot it on anything other than what you want to wipe, it doesn't ask for confirmation. |
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| 20:48.12 | travis134 | Will do, and thanks again, I appreciate the help, this was just what I needed! |
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| 20:52.43 | mathbr | Uh, shouldnât it be impossible to use patch cable to connect two PCs? Iâm doing that currently and so far this was my understanding. |
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| 20:54.06 | CowboyNeal | modern cards have had the ability to do that for a while |
| 20:54.37 | mathbr | Never knew that. Good for me since I have a gazillion of patch cables but no crossover cable. |
| 20:54.40 | CowboyNeal | don't need a special cable for it anymore |
| 20:54.49 | debiantonio | crossover cable or nullmodem serialcable |
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| 20:55.20 | CowboyNeal | and it goes both ways, a crossover cable can be used to connect to a network too |
| 20:55.29 | debiantonio | plus parallel peripheral cable |
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| 20:55.32 | mathbr | Nice. :-) |
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| 20:55.43 | mathbr | And hell, PXE boot and installation seems to work. ^^ |
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| 20:56.24 | travis134 | DBAN is nuking itself D: I assume that's not supposed to happen? I used Universal USB Installer to put it on a USB drive to boot to and ran autonuke |
| 20:57.01 | xf_merc | travis134: Yeah I noticed that it did that as well. There might be a workaround, I'm not sure. I just burnt a CD from memory. |
| 20:57.21 | travis134 | alright, I guess I'll stick with CD's then :P |
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| 20:59.18 | Roland- | hey anybody from sweden? |
| 21:00.43 | travis134 | yes |
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| 21:02.19 | Roland- | can you please translate for me Please wait one minute... |
| 21:02.20 | Roland- | ? |
| 21:02.29 | jelly-home | travis134: are either the "Universal USB Installer" or DBAN part of Debian or provided from debian.org? |
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| 21:02.31 | travis134 | sure |
| 21:03.24 | seb82 | Roland- : Vänta en minut ... |
| 21:03.36 | travis134 | Nope |
| 21:03.49 | ohookins | hi, i have a package that sets up links using update-alternatives, but the resulting links are not owned by any package |
| 21:03.58 | seb82 | I don't speak Svenska through |
| 21:04.02 | seb82 | *though |
| 21:04.11 | Roland- | google translate is not always right |
| 21:04.19 | ohookins | i'm building another package that then checks the ownership of those linked libraries for generating its dependencies, which obviously then breaks |
| 21:04.26 | travis134 | seb82 is right |
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| 21:04.45 | seb82 | on the translation or not speaking Svenska? |
| 21:04.46 | travis134 | i speak swedish |
| 21:04.52 | ohookins | is there a "right" way of having libraries in /usr/lib handled by update-alternatives but preserving package ownership of the links? |
| 21:05.45 | seb82 | I'm Frysian though, not like the cows... |
| 21:05.57 | seb82 | I probably should say Frisian... |
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| 21:06.19 | travis134 | Seb82: Vänta en minut... is the correct way to say it. |
| 21:06.47 | seb82 | kk thx travis |
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| 21:07.19 | travis134 | np |
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| 21:11.17 | mathbr | Hm, the netinst cannot do WPA2? |
| 21:12.16 | JPT | meh.. there should be a nuke command that moves any non-system files somewhere and "resets" the rest to the state of freshly installed packages... i hate my own old homeserver setup but wiping+reinstalling is to much effort :/ |
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| 21:12.48 | JPT | tons of packages i don't need anymore... randomly distributed files i used for something... |
| 21:12.56 | xf_merc | mathbr: What's your wireless device? |
| 21:14.13 | Megaf | Umeaboy, what are you doing here? |
| 21:14.14 | xf_merc | mathbr: Actually no looks like you're right... Didn't know that. |
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| 21:14.30 | thewanderer1 | mathbr: you didn't boot over WPA2, did you? |
| 21:15.08 | mathbr | Nope, boot via Ethernet connected to my main machine. But retrieving the Debian archive releases file failed, so I thought I could just go via WiFi. |
| 21:15.09 | thewanderer1 | JPT: go over the package list (dpkg --list) one by one and nuke them manually |
| 21:15.39 | thewanderer1 | mathbr: you should just give your machine access to the Internet |
| 21:15.51 | mathbr | Which one? |
| 21:16.06 | thewanderer1 | mathbr: the installation target (Zotac or whatever it's called) |
| 21:16.07 | mathbr | My main machine is online via WPA2 |
| 21:16.10 | Umeaboy | Megaf: Looking for you. |
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| 21:16.26 | JPT | thewanderer1: sounds like fun - and it's very likely that i'll do that. thanks :) |
| 21:16.26 | Umeaboy | Have you managed to build Imprudence in Debian? |
| 21:16.30 | Umeaboy | I heard someone did. |
| 21:16.36 | Umeaboy | Dunno who thou. |
| 21:16.37 | mathbr | Canât I configure my local DHCP server to use my main route? |
| 21:16.45 | thewanderer1 | mathbr: hmm, that's a tough one. use a proxy then, making a bridge is a PITA with most 802.11 adaptors and access points |
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| 21:17.20 | thewanderer1 | mathbr: you can route, too, of course, but that would require NAT or routing adjustments on your infrastructure |
| 21:17.23 | Oxy290 | what is the command to see how much RAM is installed on the system |
| 21:17.43 | thewanderer1 | Oxy290: free -m or free -g depending on what units you want |
| 21:18.07 | Megaf | Umeaboy, no need to build it yourself |
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| 21:18.17 | Oxy290 | thewanderer1: is that just free RAM? or all RAM |
| 21:18.27 | Umeaboy | Megaf: For Windows I have. |
| 21:18.32 | thewanderer1 | Oxy290: "total" column shows all you have |
| 21:18.39 | Umeaboy | It gets transparent otherwise. |
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| 21:24.16 | ohookins | ok, another way to word my question might be "how do i make dpkg-shlibdeps work with libraries managed with update-alternatives?" |
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| 21:25.38 | jelly-home | "not easily" |
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| 21:26.03 | ohookins | jelly-home: care to elaborate? |
| 21:26.13 | jelly-home | update-alternatives does not always imply a virtual package to Depend on |
| 21:26.37 | kittonian | anyone in this channel really familiar with netfilter? i posted a lengthy question earlier but got no response so I figured I'd wait a bit and ask again |
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| 21:27.10 | jelly-home | when it does, you can put a manual Depends: prefered-alternative | virtual-package |
| 21:27.16 | Oxy2901 | is there any way to do a memory test inside the operating system |
| 21:27.55 | ohookins | jelly-home: so the answer is manual dependencies rather than automatic detection with dpkg-shlibdeps? |
| 21:28.05 | jelly-home | yes. |
| 21:28.46 | spal | When I install Debian in a VirtualBox, during software installation step it automatically downloads virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms from the repository. |
| 21:28.58 | spal | How does it know that it is running inside a virtualbox and it needs to download that? |
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| 21:30.11 | ohookins | jelly-home: ok, i'll try that approach, thanks |
| 21:30.21 | jelly-home | ohookins: maybe someone in #debian-mentors, on irc.debian.org, may have a more optimal approach |
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| 21:30.48 | ohookins | ok, was just wondering where the devs might be hanging out, i'll try those |
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| 21:31.07 | DummyMode | hi |
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| 21:35.39 | patk | Hi. We're evaluating our co's future server platform, and are pretty much decided on Debian. I notice that Debian, unlike many (most?) other distros (Postfix), has settled on Exim as the default MTA. As we're also evaluating our mail server tech, I'd like to understand the why of that decision. At first glance, Postfix seems much more active as a project, and seems to have a lot more uptake 'out there' ... but interested in |
| 21:35.41 | patk | Debian-ites' opinions. |
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| 21:36.59 | car1 | hi ! does anyone have a SegFault using xvidcap with wheezy? |
| 21:37.42 | MrFrood | patk: in you want some thought out replies try askinng on the mail list |
| 21:37.54 | car1 | version is 1.1.7-0.6 |
| 21:38.18 | patk | MrFrood: Debian or Exim? |
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| 21:42.43 | kittonian | anyone? netfilter and iptables. really need some help from someone who knows what they're doing |
| 21:44.33 | MrFrood | patk: I'd suggest debian-user as a first call |
| 21:44.45 | car1 | kittonian: whats the problem |
| 21:44.53 | jelly-home | patk: you can use whatever MTA you're most comfortable with |
| 21:44.58 | patk | MrFrood: Thanks. Big list, but will give it a try. |
| 21:45.12 | jelly-home | !tell patk about why exim |
| 21:45.25 | Oxy2901 | Does apache keep any kind of log over who is connecting by default? |
| 21:46.02 | jelly-home | patk: in fact just read that last link, http://feayn.org/~lewis/exim.txt |
| 21:46.02 | DummyMode | Oxu2901 in access file you get the source ip address |
| 21:46.17 | kittonian | carl, i just moved from a 2.4 kernel running sarge to a 2.6 kernel with all the netfilter mods enabled running lenny, and need to redo my setup so that everything is secure. mind if we talk in a private room so I can explain everything? |
| 21:46.26 | DummyMode | if you wanna track users is another story |
| 21:46.30 | patk | jelly-home: Thanks. Reading. I'm familiar with the historical value of Exim ... but, tbh, am concerned that the project took a fatal blow once the primary dev reitred (Philip Hazel, was it?) |
| 21:47.07 | jelly-home | wouldn't know; I'm running Postfix everywhere |
| 21:47.17 | patk | jelly-home: Heh. That's cute :-) |
| 21:47.34 | patk | jelly-home: And you run Postfix on Debian? |
| 21:47.37 | jelly-home | yes. |
| 21:47.58 | patk | Hm. |
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| 21:50.28 | Oxy2901 | DummyMode: Where is this access file exactally? |
| 21:50.40 | Oxy2901 | DummyMode: I like stories, can you tell me one? |
| 21:53.38 | DummyMode | you can configure it to be anyware, by default, depending on your linux distro, can be located in /var/log/apache2 /var/log/apache /var/log/http |
| 21:54.36 | DummyMode | if you wanna track user, you need an authentication methood, ldap, squid+ldap, and so on.. |
| 21:55.04 | Oxy2901 | I never liked/understood LDAP x.x |
| 21:56.57 | DummyMode | well.. user kerberos instead |
| 21:57.11 | DummyMode | or authenticate agains ADS |
| 21:57.15 | DummyMode | against |
| 21:58.34 | SerajewelKS | Oxy2901: it's a directory server model that structures data heirarchically in the most obfuscated way possible |
| 21:58.39 | SerajewelKS | Oxy2901: that's about all you need to know |
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| 22:01.43 | jhutchins_lt | DummyMode: SerajewelKS Do either of you actually manage a distributed authentication system? |
| 22:02.08 | SerajewelKS | jhutchins_lt: i manage an ldap server for contact information |
| 22:02.42 | jhutchins_lt | SerajewelKS: Personal use or business? |
| 22:02.50 | SerajewelKS | jhutchins_lt: personal at the moment |
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| 22:04.22 | jhutchins_lt | Isn't AD implemented with LDAP on linux? |
| 22:04.24 | Oxy2901 | is the access.log for apache2 what does it mean when it says "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 370 |
| 22:04.29 | laurus | I just installed Debian Testing with Xfce, and the Restart and Shut Down buttons are greyed out. How do I fix this? |
| 22:05.09 | SerajewelKS | jhutchins_lt: you mean via samba? |
| 22:05.12 | jhutchins_lt | laurus: Regular users don't have permission to do those things by default. |
| 22:05.16 | jhutchins_lt | SerajewelKS: No. |
| 22:05.38 | jhutchins_lt | SerajewelKS: I mean the authentication and directory services for AD. |
| 22:05.48 | jhutchins_lt | SerajewelKS: Samba's filesharing. |
| 22:06.09 | laurus | jhutchins_lt: On my install of Debian Testing, I can do those things by default. |
| 22:06.12 | SerajewelKS | (samba is a bit more than that, of course. it can be an AD client.) |
| 22:06.19 | laurus | It seems to be a recent problem with newer installs. |
| 22:06.57 | jhutchins_lt | laurus: They're probably in the process of migrating the permission control. |
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| 22:07.21 | laurus | jhutchins_lt: Ah, so will it be automatically fixed by a sudo aptitude safe-upgrade at some point? |
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| 22:07.43 | jhutchins_lt | On my Lenny LTSP setup you have to log out and do shutdown or restart from the DM menu. |
| 22:07.57 | laurus | jhutchins_lt: What is the DM menu? |
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| 22:08.15 | jhutchins_lt | laurus: No idea. Sometimes things don't get overwritten in updates. You have to track the changelogs. |
| 22:08.58 | laurus | jhutchins_lt: Alright, thanks! |
| 22:09.15 | jhutchins_lt | laurus: [l|g|x|k]dm, nominally the Display Manager that handles the login and the selection and launch of the desktop environment. |
| 22:09.39 | laurus | jhutchins_lt: Okay, thanks! |
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| 22:10.23 | laurus | jhutchins_lt: I guess we'll just type sudo shutdown from the Terminal for now. |
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| 22:11.14 | waynerr | hey there, i have a debian squeeze system on xen with an encrypted lvm ( using xfs ), i managed to increase the partition but i get errors on restarting that the 2nd part of my lvm isnt found |
| 22:11.46 | waynerr | can anyone hint me into the right direction where beside the crypttab i have to add my new volume ? |
| 22:11.53 | jhutchins_lt | 'nother good reason not to rely on lvm. |
| 22:11.56 | xf_merc | Night all |
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| 22:12.10 | waynerr | i can boot into system manuall from initramfs |
| 22:13.40 | waynerr | i guess the boot sequence just trys to start the lvm to early and doesnt ask me for the second password when it should, i double checked the uuids in crypttab and they where allright |
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| 22:15.44 | jhutchins_lt | waynerr: It's probably not designed to deal with two different passwords. |
| 22:16.09 | waynerr | its the same password on both partitions, but it will ask me for each one anyway |
| 22:16.30 | waynerr | i have 2 seperate partitions even setup manually trough debian setup, but this one now afterwards manually |
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| 22:16.51 | waynerr | so to be accurate, its the 3rd partition in this vg |
| 22:17.20 | mathbr | PXE and TFTP sure seems interesting but in the end I want to get this done. Iâll reactivate one of my old external USB harddrives. |
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| 22:20.14 | laurus | jhutchins_lt, even running sudo poweroff doesn't turn off the computer, it just ends up rebooting it. Is there a way to fix this? |
| 22:20.54 | jhutchins_lt | laurus: Given that we don't know what is actually wrong... |
| 22:21.09 | laurus | jhutchins_lt, how do I figure that out? |
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| 22:21.56 | jhutchins_lt | laurus: I always do use sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now |
| 22:22.05 | Oxy2901 | does freenode use the internet protocol 85.190.0.3, if not, who does this IP belong to? I have some interesting entries in my log files |
| 22:22.13 | jhutchins_lt | laurus: Poweroff should call the same methods though. |
| 22:22.38 | jhutchins_lt | laurus: You can ask in #debian-next on oftc.net - there's a higher concentration of testing and unstable users there. |
| 22:22.56 | amphi | Oxy2901: 3.0.190.85.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer proxyscan.freenode.net |
| 22:23.00 | laurus | jhutchins_lt, just tried it and it still restarted. I'll try asking there, thanks! |
| 22:23.25 | amphi | Oxy2901: host(1) is your friend |
| 22:23.35 | jhutchins_lt | amphi: Or whois |
| 22:23.45 | amphi | or that |
| 22:24.06 | Oxy2901 | thx guys... lol just before i wrote an iptable rule too |
| 22:24.23 | Oxy2901 | but why do proxy scans? |
| 22:24.24 | amphi | naturally, panic broke out... |
| 22:25.29 | nutron | what's the equivalent to synaptic in kde (sorry haven't run kde in eons) |
| 22:25.31 | jhutchins_lt | Oxy2901: To prevent spammers and banned users from using proxies. |
| 22:25.43 | jhutchins_lt | nutron: synaptic |
| 22:28.35 | nutron | jhutchins_lt: heh ... figures |
| 22:28.55 | nutron | but isn't there a K<placeacronymhere> for everything? |
| 22:29.14 | nutron | I couldn't find ksynaptic =) |
| 22:29.45 | nutron | Oh! It was called kpackage wasn't it? |
| 22:29.55 | nutron | aptitude searches |
| 22:30.10 | nutron | ... nope |
| 22:31.40 | waynerr | hopes that everything goes well after a update-initramfs |
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| 22:35.42 | waynerr | hmm that wasnt the right thing and something else goes wrong now even, still able to boot ... |
| 22:36.26 | waynerr | and funny is that i get asked for the passphrase of the 3rd partition a second time when i do exec run-init in initramfs |
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| 22:44.42 | waynerr | it must have todo with the bootphase, crypttab cant be the only thing where i have to add the disk |
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| 22:57.07 | reg1 | Where can i download the Debian 3.0 32 or 64 bit. |
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| 22:57.31 | reg1 | require an ISO though |
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| 23:01.43 | simonlnu | 3? |
| 23:02.48 | reg1 | yep 3.0 |
| 23:03.10 | reg1 | i know its pretty old but i have a tool which is onyl compatible with that |
| 23:03.36 | streuner_ | is that sarge? |
| 23:03.42 | streuner_ | dpkg, sarge |
| 23:03.42 | dpkg | Sarge is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1, released June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <sarge sources.list>, <sarge-backports>. Get old sarge ISOs here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge |
| 23:04.00 | debiantonio | dpkg, woody |
| 23:04.00 | dpkg | Woody is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 3.0, released on July 19, 2002. Security support for woody was terminated on 2006-06-30. Woody was archived on 2007-01-10, ISOs are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.0_r6/ . See also <woody sources.list> and <woody->sarge>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWoody |
| 23:04.09 | streuner_ | hm, woody, omg |
| 23:04.22 | debiantonio | Gnome 1.4 :) |
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| 23:04.35 | streuner_ | argh, about 10 years old |
| 23:04.58 | reg1 | lol never knew its so old |
| 23:05.07 | reg1 | but still is it obtainable? |
| 23:05.31 | streuner_ | if you are able to read |
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| 23:05.45 | reg1 | i am basically looking for a distro which will occupy the least space.. close to 1 GB or less... just need to install the OS thats it and do some testing |
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| 23:07.54 | debiantonio | reg1, exists many live-cd distros |
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| 23:08.42 | reg1 | debiantonio: sorry didnt get ya |
| 23:08.43 | debiantonio | install anything |
| 23:09.12 | bambanx | hello guys how i can search a specific word on a specific files of folders |
| 23:09.20 | reg1 | debiantonio: you mean regardless of the version? i hav e tool called Iometer which runs only on Debian 3.0 |
| 23:09.28 | reg1 | 2.4.18 kernel |
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| 23:11.27 | munge | hi |
| 23:11.39 | debiantonio | Debian 3.0 (2.4.18 kernel, gcc 2.95.4, glibc 2.2.5) |
| 23:12.01 | munge | I just installed a new monitor after installing Debian. It has the screen resolutions of the old, how do I get additional larger resolutions? |
| 23:12.11 | reg1 | exactly |
| 23:12.27 | reg1 | thats what i am looking for |
| 23:12.40 | debiantonio | http://www.iometer.org/doc/matrix.html |
| 23:12.55 | reg1 | yep |
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| 23:17.38 | debiantonio | reg1, maybe another app with same...etc ? |
| 23:18.11 | reg1 | debiantonio: only this app is requried to be run |
| 23:18.39 | reg1 | debiantonio: or Suse 8.1 will work too |
| 23:18.58 | reg1 | debiantonio: any idea where i can obrain Debian 3.0 from |
| 23:19.04 | munge | I only have up to 1280x800 |
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| 23:22.51 | laurus | Is there a way to install kernel 2.6.39 on Debian Wheezy? |
| 23:23.31 | laurus | Or, whatever the latest 2.6 kernel is? |
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| 23:23.40 | peterrooney | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.17 | debiantonio | reg1, i'm cd1 woody here :) |
| 23:24.20 | peterrooney | ,versions linux-image |
| 23:24.22 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'linux-image' was found in i386. |
| 23:24.37 | laurus | peterrooney: I am on amd64. |
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| 23:25.04 | peterrooney | ,versions linux-image-amd64 |
| 23:25.04 | judd | Package linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.32+27~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 2.6.39+35.1~bpo60+1; sid: 3.0.0+39; wheezy: 3.0.0+39 |
| 23:25.39 | laurus | Right, that's the problem. |
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| 23:25.54 | laurus | Or should I just stick with kernel 3.0.0? |
| 23:26.30 | peterrooney | laurus: the make-kpkg package may have facilities for arbitrary kernel versions, that's where I would start. |
| 23:27.28 | debiantonio | reg1, look this: http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r6-cd/jigdo/i386/ |
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| 23:28.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | can I just feed an additional library for pbuilder to build if that library (in that version) is needed to satisfy a build dependency? |
| 23:28.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess that would be too easy(TM)? |
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| 23:29.08 | debiantonio | reg1, http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/ |
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| 23:30.10 | reg1 | debinatonio: which one contans the ISO |
| 23:31.02 | debiantonio | jigdo only |
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| 23:31.21 | reg1 | what is jigdo |
| 23:31.26 | robin_ | sigh ... why, even though I remove --purge'd openjdk does it still leave its nasty little footprints everywhere? |
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| 23:33.12 | robin_ | appletviewer is still complaining "Can't load library: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/xawt/libmawt.so" long after I kicked openjdk off the box |
| 23:33.47 | debiantonio | reg1, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 23:34.16 | debiantonio | r6 |
| 23:35.08 | debiantonio | reg1, here --->http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.0_r6/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 23:37.08 | debiantonio | reg1, ISO image |
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| 23:37.55 | reg1 | thanks. downloading. let me see if it works |
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| 23:38.25 | reg1 | debiantonio" says 14mins |
| 23:38.35 | robin_ | apt-get remove --purge <package> is the right way to kick a package righ toff the system, isnt it? |
| 23:38.37 | reg1 | debiantonio: hopefully will work |
| 23:38.45 | robin_ | unless I is going crazy this week |
| 23:39.21 | debiantonio | reg1, nice work! |
| 23:39.38 | reg1 | debiantonio: thank you for finding this out for me |
| 23:39.59 | reg1 | debiantonio: do you know which distro will occupy the least space |
| 23:40.58 | reg1 | debiantonio: i think the installation just requires few hundred MB. how do you think the Debian will occupy |
| 23:42.22 | debiantonio | reg1, http://tinylab.org/index.php/projects/tinylinux/ |
| 23:42.25 | debiantonio | may be |
| 23:43.40 | debiantonio | reg1, i'm debian install hd 10gb, 20gb... |
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| 23:45.18 | debiantonio | reg1, 4gb Quantum MFM hehehe |
| 23:45.36 | debiantonio | 5 1/4 |
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| 23:46.23 | debiantonio | reg1, woody less 1gb |
| 23:46.55 | debiantonio | with Gnome |
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| 23:49.59 | n-iCe | hi |
| 23:50.12 | nvz | This is kinda offtopic but I'm looking to minimize space used for DVR (digital video recording) and so far I've tested straight conversions from the format we use to WMV, OGV, etc.. and even tried different bitrates and searched all over the internet, but other than weeks more of trial and error or someone else first-hand experience I'm not sure even what questions to ask on which format to go with. |
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| 23:51.14 | nvz | I notice ogv has some artifacts even at 600 or 800kbps but its still within acceptable quality for a roughly 50-100mb difference in size to what we use now |
| 23:51.41 | mathbr | Just FYI: In the end I pulled out an old external USB harddrive, put the netinst ISO on it and installed that one. Networking then done via regular ethernet until I could install wpasupplicant. Works like a charm now. :-) |
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| 23:52.27 | nvz | should I just go with the "best" codec like the h264 and rely solely on the bitrate to slim it down? |
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| 23:54.53 | nvz | idk for all the unanswered questions I see the novelty in more removable storage.. heh |
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