| 00:00.35 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 00:01.53 | *** join/#debian Skummel (~Mats@146.247.174.66) |
| 00:02.17 | calamari | themill: maybe not then? I was just seeing a bunch of x related stuff |
| 00:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1061] by debhelper |
| 00:05.55 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 00:08.31 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@xdsl-78-34-240-239.netcologne.de) |
| 00:08.59 | *** join/#debian Otto_ (~Otto@cpe-24-210-25-11.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 00:11.51 | *** join/#debian cicerone (5d287d18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.40.125.24) |
| 00:12.54 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 00:12.55 | calamari | themill: http://pastebin.com/e0xhJJpP |
| 00:12.59 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 00:13.24 | *** join/#debian mrhanky (~mrhanky@2a03:4000:1::2e26:e815:1) |
| 00:14.16 | *** join/#debian hellais (~a@93-35-49-36.ip53.fastwebnet.it) |
| 00:14.23 | bombadil_ | Question: I plan to run a game server (unreal tournament) on my Debian server. Is there a way to start and run the game server (it is launched from the terminal) via SSH, and log out of SSH, leaving the game server running ? |
| 00:14.34 | bombadil_ | Is there a better way to approach this? |
| 00:14.44 | calamari | is it a daemon? |
| 00:15.04 | thewanderer1 | bombadil_: just run it in a screen session |
| 00:15.10 | bombadil_ | i'm not sure, that was what i was going to ask next. how can i figure this out? |
| 00:15.14 | thewanderer1 | detach from screen and you can disconnect |
| 00:15.21 | *** join/#debian Gottaname (~Gottaname@bb220-255-142-115.singnet.com.sg) |
| 00:15.28 | bombadil_ | thewanderer1: an X screen session? |
| 00:15.37 | calamari | I've had some luck running things like program &> /dev/null & .. but I'm sure that's not 100% correct |
| 00:16.21 | thewanderer1 | bombadil_: no, GNU screen. it's a program which, among others, can let you run other programs in the background and detach safely. |
| 00:16.29 | bombadil_ | the only other option besides using SSH would be for me to go into the basement, put a head on the server and log in, then run the game server and leave that session logged in. seems insecure |
| 00:16.30 | calamari | bombadil_: I think his suggestion is better.. use gnu screen |
| 00:16.37 | tharkun | bombadil_: you have two choices detach your server with the $SHELL proper commands or use a detachable tty like screen as you have been allready told |
| 00:17.22 | bombadil_ | fascinating! i will now investigate gnu screen. thank you! |
| 00:17.42 | thewanderer1 | actually, I originally learnt that when setting up an OpenArena game server... :P |
| 00:17.42 | bombadil_ | tharkun: can you be a bit more specific about detaching with the $SHELL proper commands? |
| 00:18.43 | *** join/#debian id_ (~id@c-24-20-121-79.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 00:18.52 | tharkun | bombadil_: on bash i believe if you append & to your command the session will be detached from the command tty it varies according to $SHELL the same does not work for zsh for example |
| 00:19.00 | tbone | hey all having some trouble with the wireless manager |
| 00:19.07 | calamari | bombadil_: there's some kind of sysadmin joke where if a sysadmin dies they don't want to end his screen session, because that's his last thing alive on the earth :) |
| 00:19.28 | tharkun | bombadil_: anyway screen is your weapon of choice |
| 00:19.38 | tbone | not quite sure why its so difficult to use #1, but whats a basic way to connec to a WEP network, ive looked through the man pages for wpasupplicant, tried wicd, and wireless-tools, and i cant seem to find straight forward instructions |
| 00:20.08 | tbone | iits almost like you've got to be genius level IQ just to understand this stuff, and its def fair to say that windows has linux beat in ease of wireless connectivity |
| 00:20.14 | tharkun | tbone: what wifi nick are you using? |
| 00:20.34 | *** join/#debian tom4golf (~androirc@nc-76-6-156-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 00:20.43 | calamari | tbone: you might not actually have to use wpa_supplicant. you should be able to connect with iwconfig |
| 00:21.03 | tbone | ive got an essid network name called KingKong, so i set it up using iwconfig wlan0 essid KingKong |
| 00:21.31 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 00:21.39 | tharkun | tbone: what wifi nick are you using? |
| 00:21.40 | tbone | didnt work, anyways this is getting pretty annoying, so any ideas on how we can get an easier way of allowing people to connect to their wireless networks, without having to install those bloated crappy x11 wireless managers |
| 00:22.02 | tbone | its a dwa-131, its setup rtl8182u_usb i believe |
| 00:22.10 | tbone | its recogonized by the system and iwconfig |
| 00:22.16 | tbone | just not able to get on any networks |
| 00:22.36 | *** join/#debian hpa (~hpa@terminus.zytor.com) |
| 00:22.37 | calamari | tbone: let me boot up my laptop and see how I configured it, I am using wep |
| 00:22.46 | tharkun | tbone: iwconfig wlan0 essid KingKong key xxxxxxx commit; dhclient -v wlan0 |
| 00:22.54 | bombadil_ | tharkun and calamari, thank you :) |
| 00:23.04 | tharkun | bombadil_: np gl |
| 00:23.59 | tharkun | tbone: i actually switch through a lot of wifi networks so i managed to make a makefile with all of them in it. and i haven't had any problem so far |
| 00:24.02 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (angel@188.214.222.57) |
| 00:24.56 | tharkun | tbone: you do have a key right, if not just give it a key off instead |
| 00:24.57 | tbone | i just dont understand why the need for so many types of authentication, peap, eap, wpa, wpa-psk, wep, wpa2, leap, eap-tls, peap with gtc |
| 00:25.32 | calamari | wpa is because wep was insecure |
| 00:25.53 | calamari | leap is also insecure but companies still use it with various schemes |
| 00:25.56 | tharkun | tbone: some are supposed to superseed others, the rest, well you could say it is human nature to make things more complicated |
| 00:26.01 | *** join/#debian sanduz2 (~sanduz2@75-149-186-118-Miami.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 00:26.02 | *** join/#debian jimcooncat (~jim@pool-72-65-103-141.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) |
| 00:26.09 | tbone | wireless technology seems pretty overcomplicted and i really think a developer could a lot of money kinda cleaning it up and standardizing the process |
| 00:26.41 | tharkun | tbone: and that is only the tip of the iceberg |
| 00:27.24 | tbone | i believe it |
| 00:27.36 | tbone | let me try that command and see what happends |
| 00:28.50 | tbone | hmm still sitting oh DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 port 67 interval 6 |
| 00:29.07 | tbone | then the interval changes but its not able to get on the network |
| 00:29.28 | calamari | tbone: looks like I used wpa_supplicant after all |
| 00:29.33 | *** join/#debian dwfreed (dwfreed@encoded/developer/dwfreed) |
| 00:29.41 | tharkun | tbone: you have a dhcp server on your network? |
| 00:30.12 | tbone | its on the router, yes |
| 00:30.15 | *** join/#debian cardamon (~mute@c-24-98-152-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 00:30.40 | tbone | no dhcp offers |
| 00:30.54 | tbone | is it because when m adding the key with iwconfig, im not using the hex mode for wep? |
| 00:31.04 | tbone | i know theres a few types of wep |
| 00:31.04 | tharkun | Is your nick led lit up? |
| 00:31.13 | *** join/#debian sarabande (~user@c-71-229-124-59.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 00:31.18 | tbone | yep |
| 00:31.31 | tbone | is it because i always have an ethernet cable plugged in and connected to another network? |
| 00:31.39 | tharkun | no |
| 00:31.40 | tbone | let me try turning off the ethernet and trying that command again |
| 00:32.18 | *** join/#debian amero (~amero@unaffiliated/amero) |
| 00:32.19 | *** join/#debian mrhanky (~mrhanky@2a03:4000:1::2e26:e815:1) |
| 00:32.22 | tbone | k released the dhcp on the ethernet(eth0), tried to renew on the wlan0 to connect to my wifi kingkong network using wep-hex... no dice |
| 00:32.35 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-249-121-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 00:32.48 | hiwk | so, JDEE seems to be an orphan, is there any easy way to install it under debian testing? |
| 00:32.49 | tbone | also the commit part doesnt work because its not supported on this hardware apparently |
| 00:33.11 | calamari | tbone: in case you want it, here's my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pf83t3JA |
| 00:33.22 | amero | hello folks. how do you add new files to the .deb you're building with dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 00:33.41 | tbone | hmm this is strange, now after being able to see networks using iwlist wlan0 scan, im not able too.. maybe this card is defective |
| 00:33.50 | *** join/#debian skrewler (~skrewler@70-36-139-123.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 00:34.07 | calamari | tbone: any messages in dmesg? |
| 00:34.11 | cardamon | I'm trying to grok the terminology. Squeeze is the current stable release and Wheezy/Sid are Testing and Unstable, respectively? |
| 00:34.16 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-8-118.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 00:34.24 | cardamon | Do I understand that correctly? |
| 00:35.23 | tharkun | calamari: how do you fire up your wifi using wpasupplicant and what is supposed to be done in case you have several networks you need to join? |
| 00:35.59 | calamari | tharkun: I was looking for that, and it must be something in /etc/init.d, I can dig a bit more if you'd like |
| 00:36.24 | tharkun | calamari: so you do not start it manually? |
| 00:36.59 | calamari | tharkun: no I set it up to automatically connect on boot.. it's definitely not using anything in x tho |
| 00:37.21 | *** join/#debian josef__ (~josef@188-194-63-116-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 00:37.48 | tharkun | calamari: if you have the init script easily available it might help me a lot. I've had a hardtime with wpasupplicant |
| 00:37.57 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 00:39.10 | *** join/#debian cicerone (5d287d18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.40.125.24) |
| 00:39.11 | calamari | tharkun: lol I guess I just put it in /etc/rc.local .. I'm sure that's not best practices, but it worked for me |
| 00:40.01 | tharkun | yes, i know that kind of "fix" |
| 00:40.46 | *** join/#debian lapsusbrutus (~ah@92.254.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 00:41.33 | calamari | tharkun: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Hmma5WRW |
| 00:45.05 | tharkun | calamari: thanks it seems it can be easily made to manage several connections. I'll try it as soon as i get to the WPA network i need to access. iwconfig is of no use there |
| 00:47.11 | calamari | tharkun: good to hear, I've never needed to do that, so I didn't want to comment there |
| 00:49.20 | tharkun | On a non related note if i set the type of an svg file as image/svg iceweasel asks for inkscape and if i set the same image as image/svg+xml it does render it fine? |
| 00:49.40 | *** join/#debian jtrucks (~jtrucks@freenode/staff/lopsa.board.jtrucks) |
| 00:49.43 | tharkun | Why is that, or where can i get an answer? |
| 00:50.36 | *** join/#debian ksk (ksk@im.knubz.de) |
| 00:50.37 | calamari | cool, I'd like mine to open in inkscape |
| 00:50.59 | tharkun | calamari: now you now the trick :D |
| 00:51.21 | *** join/#debian astartoth (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 00:52.15 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs109108016252.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:52.45 | calamari | thanks :) |
| 00:52.52 | *** join/#debian Tobias| (~Tobias@unaffiliated/tobias/x-2050245) |
| 00:53.00 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 00:53.28 | *** join/#debian LegalEagle (~chip@pdpc/supporter/student/legaleagle) |
| 00:53.58 | calamari | tbone: any luck? |
| 00:54.48 | tharkun | calamari: one man's bug is another man's feature :D |
| 00:54.52 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:54.54 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 00:55.28 | calamari | tharkun: well I ended up saving them and opening in inkscape because firefox wouldn't let me zoom in |
| 00:57.14 | *** join/#debian nutterpc (~nutterpc@1.148.210.46) |
| 00:58.16 | tharkun | good to hear it helped |
| 01:00.11 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 01:00.24 | calamari | tharkun: haven't tried it yet.. still trying to figure out how to add one to the list, I don't seem to have image/svg or svg |
| 01:00.46 | *** join/#debian thiagoss (~thiagoss@189.81.33.2) |
| 01:01.05 | *** join/#debian trnzmeta (~bleh@123-243-201-39.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 01:01.12 | tharkun | calamari: how are you serving your images ? |
| 01:01.46 | calamari | tharkun: I must have misunderstood you.. I am just going to various websites and viewing svgs |
| 01:02.39 | tharkun | calamari: ohh, yes, i set the type of mime at the website, not on the client. It is part of the information of the file |
| 01:02.39 | windparadise | hello, pls on debian, I have created an virtual host, and a rewrite engine, |
| 01:02.49 | windparadise | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.15 | calamari | tharkun: ahh.. lol oh well then :) it's not that big a deal, only takes a second to save and load in inkscape |
| 01:03.38 | *** join/#debian sary (~sa@gateway/tor-sasl/sary) |
| 01:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1054] by debhelper |
| 01:04.08 | windparadise | any answer pls ? |
| 01:04.19 | calamari | well.. time for me to think about eating something.. thanks for the chroot help, it's been fun |
| 01:04.33 | *** join/#debian daveo (~daveo@97.73.171.234) |
| 01:05.32 | *** join/#debian mrhanky (~mrhanky@2a03:4000:1::2e26:e815:1) |
| 01:10.03 | aypea[2] | hrm. anyone know how to rename an md raid component device? |
| 01:10.08 | *** join/#debian wols_ (~klingens@p5DD07341.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:11.12 | *** join/#debian TuxFighter (~TuxFighte@p5B23B779.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:13.52 | *** join/#debian Bob87654 (~bob@d142-058-174-082.wireless.sfu.ca) |
| 01:14.10 | *** join/#debian CannedCorn (~CannedCor@cpe-66-65-102-78.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:15.56 | *** join/#debian overchan (~ano@p57B83FA9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:16.12 | *** join/#debian monsterloony (~ano@p57B83FA9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:16.51 | heinzes | thewanderer1: thanks for your help with my suspend problem. I solved it by installing the new X/intel driver from sid. |
| 01:17.54 | *** join/#debian rechael2 (~rechael2@117.136.8.136) |
| 01:19.41 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 01:20.54 | *** join/#debian Evixion` (~Evixion@67.235.67.80) |
| 01:25.06 | *** part/#debian kegwin (~kegwin@c-24-23-46-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:25.11 | *** join/#debian kegwin (~kegwin@c-24-23-46-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:25.56 | *** join/#debian hufnus (~hufnus@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 01:25.58 | *** join/#debian lapsusbr1tus (~ah@75.254.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 01:27.17 | daveo | window 4 |
| 01:28.13 | *** join/#debian kegwin (~kegwin@c-24-23-46-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:28.27 | *** join/#debian sythe (~quassel@70.49.107.131) |
| 01:28.27 | *** join/#debian sythe (~quassel@unaffiliated/sythe) |
| 01:28.40 | *** join/#debian mactimes (~mactimes@unaffiliated/mactimes) |
| 01:31.05 | *** join/#debian strayer (~RetHo1g@lxproxy4.bfinv.de) |
| 01:32.13 | *** join/#debian N2L (~N2L@lns3-pool-d842a59c.dsl.look.ca) |
| 01:32.29 | *** join/#debian yagoo (~askme@modemcable004.103-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 01:32.32 | N2L | hi all |
| 01:32.34 | yagoo | hi |
| 01:32.56 | yagoo | N2L, nice 2 |
| 01:33.10 | *** join/#debian meise (~dm@3st.be) |
| 01:33.19 | *** join/#debian HeavyMetal (~localhost@unaffiliated/thegeek1024) |
| 01:33.44 | N2L | what package do i need for WINE? |
| 01:33.51 | yagoo | wine |
| 01:33.57 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@87.254.79.60) |
| 01:34.03 | yagoo | it should simply find the dependencies.. |
| 01:34.06 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 01:34.06 | N2L | lmao shhh |
| 01:34.28 | N2L | ok, just checking |
| 01:34.35 | yagoo | N2L, if you're talking about building it/etc.. this is the wrong place.. |
| 01:34.44 | tbone | im still trying to figure out how to edit wpa_supplicant.conf, im getting the message ioctrl[SIOSCSIWENCODEEXT]: invalid argument after i try to run wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 01:34.55 | tbone | k no dice this is incredibly frustrating and baffeling to me that |
| 01:35.05 | yagoo | !wpa |
| 01:35.05 | dpkg | wpa is Wi-Fi Protected Access. A WPA supplicant is provided for Debian systems in the 'wpasupplicant' package. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to configure the supplicant as desired (especially "Troubleshooting" regarding association to hidden SSIDs). Debian-Installer does not support WPA at this time; see also <nowpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
| 01:35.15 | *** join/#debian Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) |
| 01:35.17 | *** join/#debian ring0 (~ring0@unaffiliated/ring0) |
| 01:35.22 | yagoo | tbone, have wpa_supplicant module loaded |
| 01:35.26 | yagoo | (lsmod |grep wwpa) |
| 01:35.27 | tbone | that no linux developers havent written a console program that displays the wireless networks and allows you to connect by selecting the network (the program predetermines the authentication) and go from there |
| 01:35.48 | yagoo | tbone, ya.. |
| 01:35.57 | N2L | does WINE have any Limitations? |
| 01:36.04 | yagoo | tbone, you sure dont know how to complain properly.. You can connect via console. |
| 01:36.18 | somiaj | N2L: yes |
| 01:36.32 | yagoo | N2L, I only know u can install it.. for further questions you should ask #wine.. alot of people don't like to talk about support windows here |
| 01:36.40 | N2L | somiaj: what kind of limitations |
| 01:36.40 | HeavyMetal | hi can i cahnge the system email from root@www.doamin.com to root@doamin.com? |
| 01:36.47 | tbone | right thats what im trying to figure out, wpasupplicant.conf, i couldnt get it to work with WEP, so i readjusted the router to WPA2-PSK, made the sure card is working in linux but its still not connecting |
| 01:37.23 | yagoo | tbone, look at what dpkg bot said about wpa.. there should be good hints.. i also said to see if wpa module (if its still necessary) is loaded? |
| 01:37.30 | *** join/#debian rsampaio (~rodrigo@187.10.222.142) |
| 01:37.34 | tbone | its not showing up |
| 01:37.40 | tbone | i used aptitude to install wpasupplicant |
| 01:38.03 | yagoo | tbone, so try modprobe wpa_supplicant, then see if its loaded, (or after.. dmesg |grep wpa -- see if its loaded) |
| 01:38.10 | somiaj | N2L: it runs different window binaries to different degrees of sucess. Go check out the app database at winehq.org to see if or if not the app you want runs well with wine. |
| 01:38.19 | tbone | nope it's not found |
| 01:38.35 | yagoo | tbone, you'll have to pastebin so people can see what commands you tried. |
| 01:38.41 | yagoo | !pastebin |
| 01:38.42 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 01:38.53 | N2L | somiaj: thanks, again |
| 01:39.06 | tbone | ive almost tried everything there can be tried, including the front ends in X11, this isnt working right |
| 01:39.17 | tbone | it sees the networks, but it wont connect to them |
| 01:39.26 | yagoo | N2L, what app? if you need to find an alternative you can ask us.. |
| 01:39.35 | *** join/#debian Genji_ (~Genji@112.202.50.119) |
| 01:39.55 | tbone | tried wicd-client, wpasupplicant, wireless-tools, manually using iwconfig |
| 01:40.04 | yagoo | tbone, you need the module loaded. |
| 01:40.21 | tbone | am i going to have to recompile the kernel? ive got a recent build of wheezy |
| 01:40.44 | yagoo | tbone, only thing i can say is pastebin.. I have no idea what you're typing in console. |
| 01:40.58 | *** part/#debian rechael2 (~rechael2@117.136.8.136) |
| 01:40.58 | N2L | yagoo, essentially all i want is Supreme Ruler, and voyage century to run |
| 01:41.31 | yagoo | N2L, ok if they're games then of course there wouldn't be alternatives |
| 01:41.35 | tbone | is there a package like wpasupplicant-modules or wpasupplicant-dev with the loadable modules because im not seeing wwpa or wpa_supplicant at all |
| 01:41.36 | yagoo | ;-) |
| 01:41.41 | N2L | lol |
| 01:42.29 | yagoo | tbone, what command did u try to modprobe ? |
| 01:42.54 | tbone | modprobe wpa_supplicant |
| 01:42.57 | tbone | modprobe wwpa |
| 01:43.15 | tbone | both of those, FATAL: Module was not found |
| 01:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1046] by debhelper |
| 01:44.06 | yagoo | tbone, what about wpasupplicant package? |
| 01:44.26 | tbone | like i said to install that i did aptitude install wpasupplicant |
| 01:44.36 | tbone | actually tried uninstalling it and using apt-get install as well |
| 01:44.51 | *** join/#debian whiteh (white_magi@69.76.19.210) |
| 01:45.17 | HeavyMetal | hi can i cahnge the system email from root@www.doamin.com to root@doamin.com? |
| 01:45.31 | yagoo | tbone, did u know theres examples in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples? |
| 01:45.34 | tbone | its weird cause sometimes when i do an iwlist wlan0 scan i get results of the networks other times, it doesnt find anything or says network is down |
| 01:45.43 | whiteh | so.. my gui froze up, unexpectedly. however, i can still go to commandline (using ctrl+alt+f1). is there any way to restart the GUI w/o rebooting the pc? |
| 01:45.49 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi_ (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 01:45.57 | tbone | its almost like card is coming in and out of operation |
| 01:46.28 | yagoo | tbone, be sure you check your wifi hardware is fully supported.. |
| 01:46.37 | tbone | i dont know i think this is terrible and i might just have to another machine for wireless, this is probably not compatible with debian... the developers obviously need more time to get it right |
| 01:46.39 | tbone | yep it is |
| 01:47.01 | yagoo | tbone, and so what is it? can you be more specific? |
| 01:47.02 | tbone | it almost seems like it should work but its not so i think im just going to scrap this idea and move on to something else, debians just not ready for this computer |
| 01:47.20 | N2L | how do i import music from ipod? |
| 01:47.30 | yagoo | tbone, well so far you refuse to read any documentation. so i guess it's you not ready for debian.. |
| 01:47.43 | tbone | its an rtl8192cu and its not compatible with debian wheezy |
| 01:48.21 | tbone | i did read the documentation, man pages, tutorials, example configurations, if its not ready for me its certainly not going to be ready for alot of other people, i hear ubuntu doesnt have this problem |
| 01:48.48 | tbone | it actually detects, configures the usb wireless card, and it works flawlessly in the console and x11 out of the box |
| 01:48.52 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 01:48.54 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-24-7-1-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:49.30 | yagoo | tbone, what kernel u using? |
| 01:49.39 | yagoo | tbone, did u try the latest kernel? |
| 01:49.50 | N2L | how do i import music from ipod |
| 01:50.14 | tbone | this is jumping through 10,000 hoops to get this thing to work, i think itd be a good project for someone to pick up, maybe one day i can get around to it and hopefully save people alot of trouble and time trying to get this to work |
| 01:50.20 | tbone | im using the 3.0 64 bit kernel |
| 01:50.25 | tbone | maybe thats why, its 64 bit |
| 01:50.37 | yagoo | tbone, did u try another port? |
| 01:52.11 | tbone | ill try that now, probably one of the very few things i havent tried |
| 01:52.20 | yagoo | tbone, there's a bleeding edge driver for it (2011/7/29) http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=277&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true |
| 01:54.26 | tbone | that 8192cu driver is for linux 2.6 or earlier, this is 3.0 |
| 01:54.41 | tbone | i appreciate you tryin to help me with this |
| 01:54.58 | tbone | not quite sure if ill be able to get it work unless i spend alot more time trying to figure out why its not working |
| 01:55.05 | *** join/#debian frozencemetery (~frozencem@CMU-786527.WV.CC.CMU.EDU) |
| 01:55.10 | yagoo | tbone, check with the 3.0 branch people.. see if they're using that realtek latest code driver.. |
| 01:56.00 | *** join/#debian AsuraLe (~ashurta@182.151.113.181) |
| 01:56.03 | *** join/#debian heinzes (~kvirc@c-98-193-169-96.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 01:56.11 | yagoo | tbone, btw.. 3.0 is not that much different than 2.6.3xx kernels.. torvald decided just to jump the number.. |
| 01:56.39 | *** join/#debian wolverine0x90 (~wolverine@pool-108-41-242-227.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:56.40 | tbone | ok so im back to where im able to see my network with iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 01:57.08 | whiteh | anyone know if it's possible to save gedit's currently open files via the terminal? my gui, sadly, froze up. Either that, or is it possible to restart the gui? I tried 'metacity --replace' & 'gdm restart' but neither worked |
| 01:57.09 | yagoo | tbone, see what version of the driver ur using -- modinfo <drivername> |
| 01:57.19 | tbone | but i just wish there was a way to type in connect wirelessnetworkname wirelesspassword and then have it do all the rest, im really not sure why i need to be editing all these files in /etc |
| 01:57.43 | yagoo | asks Nick Burns to help out tbone |
| 01:58.07 | yagoo | thinks tbone is not using debian.. he refuses to answer any questions.. |
| 01:58.09 | whiteh | tbone: maybe it will happen someday, but simply put linux != windows and even in windows, you'd have to click on several menus |
| 01:58.11 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 01:58.17 | tbone | realtek 8192c/8188c 802.11 usb wireless rtl8192cu 3.0.0-1amd64 |
| 01:58.44 | yagoo | i even gave 5-6 commands for u.. I never got any answers on them.. |
| 01:58.57 | yagoo | nways.. i've done what i can.. |
| 01:59.42 | tbone | its loaded and ready to rock, my /etc/network/interfaces looks like: auto wlan0; iface wlan0 inet dhcp; my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is like network { ssid = "KingKong" psk=my psk } |
| 02:00.05 | AsuraLe | hi ,i have a windows ldm disk , but under linux ,i could only mount two of it ,how could i do to deal with it ? |
| 02:00.06 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 02:00.17 | tbone | try to start up wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -i/wlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and it gives me the invalid argument ioctl error |
| 02:00.20 | voltagex | hi, bash completion is enabled, I have the package installed, I have avahi installed yet avahi host autocompletion (i.e. for the ssh command) doesn't work - any ideas? |
| 02:00.42 | yagoo | tbone, i said to go to kernel.. if you think there's a driver issue. No point in screaming at the software if the hardware driver is the issue.. |
| 02:01.07 | voltagex | tbone: why is there a slash in -i/wlan0? |
| 02:01.07 | tbone | well if the hardware driver is the issue i dont think it would be able to even see any networks at all |
| 02:01.10 | *** join/#debian InvalidHandle (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe8efb00-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 02:01.22 | yagoo | tbone, you said it sometimes fails at listing any networks.. |
| 02:01.30 | *** join/#debian strayer (~RetHo1g@lxproxy4.bfinv.de) |
| 02:01.51 | *** join/#debian goshawk1 (~drwho@pool-70-20-28-132.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:01.56 | tbone | right, after i try running wpa_supplicant it stops listing networks with the iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 02:01.56 | yagoo | I also said to check dmesg.. but u never gave any reply on that.. i even said to do modinfo.. and compare that # edition to the download site |
| 02:02.11 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@175.143.150.69) |
| 02:02.18 | tbone | iwconfig shows the mac address before running wpa_supplicant after wpa_supplicant theres no address under iwconfig |
| 02:02.40 | yagoo | tbone, so its a driver issue.. |
| 02:03.09 | yagoo | and check dmesg for any errors.. |
| 02:03.27 | tbone | hard to be sure, because when i tried using wicd-client it got to where it was authenticating and but didnt get an ip, but i think wicd also use wpasupplicant |
| 02:03.44 | yagoo | ok you know how to solve it. |
| 02:03.46 | yagoo | good luck.. |
| 02:04.17 | *** join/#debian dev0 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-16-30.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 02:04.28 | tbone | maybe ill have to try to install kde or gnome and use the network manager, thats gonna be pretty shitty if thats the only way its gonna work |
| 02:04.34 | tbone | but ill try it, |
| 02:04.36 | tbone | thanks, cya |
| 02:05.11 | yagoo | says if hardware mac address is 00:00, there's no hope. |
| 02:05.27 | pipeline | what mac is 00:00 |
| 02:05.46 | yagoo | pipeline, it's worse than 1/0 |
| 02:06.18 | pipeline | there are a lot of still-extant companies in the 00:00 space |
| 02:06.27 | pipeline | but it occurs to me that if you have a xerox or 3com NIC in 00:00 instead of higher up |
| 02:06.32 | pipeline | it must be balls-old, like 1980s :P |
| 02:07.26 | yagoo | i don't understand why he's afraid to check his module version. i bet he's not even using debian.. lol |
| 02:07.41 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 02:10.26 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 02:10.27 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 02:17.12 | *** join/#debian rrrreimer_ (~rrrreimer@krsn-4d0b8c3c.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 02:18.34 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~foo@port-212-202-171-169.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 02:26.15 | *** join/#debian sary (~sa@gateway/tor-sasl/sary) |
| 02:27.51 | *** join/#debian goshawk1 (~drwho@pool-70-20-28-132.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:28.16 | *** join/#debian s1 (~sa@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 02:28.29 | cardamon | I'm trying to update from Squeeze to Wheezy and ran into some issues. It failed when updating initramfs, then when re-ran apt-get dist-upgrade it tells me I have broken deps. Then when I try to fix them I get this: http://pastebin.com/5djw4EtM |
| 02:29.00 | cardamon | just now notices the #debian-next channel |
| 02:29.10 | cardamon | ...I should go ask in there, shouldn't I/ |
| 02:29.20 | cardamon | ...I'm a go ask in theree. |
| 02:30.00 | *** join/#debian BlueG (~blue@c-68-60-20-112.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 02:33.09 | yagoo | cardamon, looks like the libwmf0.2-7 0.2.8.4-6 package has a poor script installer |
| 02:33.15 | *** join/#debian hotswaphdd (~dj_ice@pool-96-242-137-28.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:33.38 | yagoo | cardamon, i think i errored on that.. looks like something else.. |
| 02:33.47 | yagoo | because it says unpacking... |
| 02:34.01 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@97-120-76-173.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 02:34.01 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 02:34.42 | cardamon | yagoo: I think I got it to go further on the second try. |
| 02:36.20 | *** join/#debian eLiNuX (~eLiNUX@190.202.209.90) |
| 02:36.31 | *** part/#debian eLiNuX (~eLiNUX@190.202.209.90) |
| 02:36.51 | *** join/#debian saraband` (~user@c-71-229-124-59.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 02:37.36 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net) |
| 02:38.37 | *** part/#debian saraband` (~user@c-71-229-124-59.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 02:38.43 | *** part/#debian frozencemetery (~frozencem@CMU-786527.WV.CC.CMU.EDU) |
| 02:39.32 | TrueDD | Good night everybody |
| 02:43.25 | HeavyMetal | i am wondering how to cahnge the system email from root@www.doamin.com to root@doamin.com. does anyone know how to do that? |
| 02:44.53 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@c114-77-11-48.brasd3.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 02:44.55 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 02:50.45 | *** join/#debian hkais1 (~xenoadmin@stgt-5f729360.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 02:51.14 | kingsley | HeavyMetal: Please elaborate on "system email". |
| 02:51.35 | kingsley | HeavyMetal: Is it any email sent to the root user? |
| 02:51.46 | *** join/#debian Nu^253r (~LessIsMor@unaffiliated/nu253r/x-0655220) |
| 02:52.31 | *** join/#debian thevdude (~thevdude@pool-74-109-247-149.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:52.41 | HeavyMetal | no when stuff like cron runs it tried to send it to root@www.doamin.com but there is no such email address so i am wondering if i can change it to root@domain.com |
| 02:52.46 | thevdude | I'm having issues with samba. :( |
| 02:53.35 | thevdude | I did apt-get install smbfs and that installed fine, WORKGROUP and whatnot. And then I did modprobe smbfs and it told me FATAL: module smbfs not found |
| 02:53.41 | thevdude | so I ran it with sudo, and that didn't work. |
| 02:53.58 | thevdude | So I added it to /etc/modules, but lsmod still doesn't show it. |
| 02:54.32 | neil_m | eh |
| 02:54.54 | HeavyMetal | kingsley: ^ |
| 02:55.19 | thevdude | added it to /etc/modules, REBOOTED, but lsmod doesn't see it. |
| 02:59.30 | *** join/#debian maplesq (63e30b7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.227.11.127) |
| 02:59.35 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 02:59.38 | kingsley | HeavyMetal: It seems to me that it may make a difference whether cron sends the email, or the job run by cron sends it. |
| 02:59.50 | shifty | HeavyMetal: /etc/aliases |
| 02:59.56 | HeavyMetal | well the system sends it |
| 02:59.57 | kingsley | HeavyMetal: Do you happen to know? |
| 03:00.15 | *** join/#debian M`vy (~mvy@hag57-1-88-169-4-6.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 03:01.29 | HeavyMetal | kingsley: it sends system notices and stuff |
| 03:02.23 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 03:02.52 | kingsley | HeavyMetal: I think it's possible to be more precise about the origin of email messages, but if that's a problem, maybe shifty's suggestion is worth checking out. |
| 03:03.34 | kingsley | HeavyMetal: There may be a file on your computer named "/etc/aliases" that contains aliases for email addresses. |
| 03:03.36 | neil_m | thevdude does the package even contain the module |
| 03:03.49 | neil_m | i doubt it |
| 03:04.08 | neil_m | i think smbfs just contains mounting utilities |
| 03:04.09 | thevdude | IDK, the debian site says it does. IDK, it works, but not through thunar. Weird. |
| 03:04.20 | kingsley | HeavyMetal: If your computer has it, you may want to see if it contains an alias for root, or try defining one. |
| 03:04.24 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 03:04.48 | thevdude | Thunar has a nice menu to go through and do stuff, but I'm okay with some fstab entries and symlink. |
| 03:05.15 | *** join/#debian phorce1_home (~gvl2@24.175.248.90) |
| 03:05.15 | *** join/#debian phorce1_home (~gvl2@pdpc/supporter/active/phorce1) |
| 03:05.29 | neil_m | have you checked /lib/modules/kernelversion/... see if its actually there |
| 03:06.38 | *** part/#debian amero (~amero@unaffiliated/amero) |
| 03:07.28 | HeavyMetal | i see kingsley |
| 03:07.30 | HeavyMetal | thanks |
| 03:07.33 | *** join/#debian xaitax_ (~xaitax@p4FEDB208.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:08.20 | neil_m | hmmm |
| 03:08.25 | neil_m | try cifs |
| 03:08.29 | *** join/#debian StuckMojo (~jon@insectosaurus.thewickedtribe.net) |
| 03:08.52 | StuckMojo | hi. anyone know how to get dkms to do make -j to use multiple cores when building? |
| 03:08.54 | neil_m | CIFS support (advanced network filesystem, SMBFS successor) |
| 03:09.07 | StuckMojo | i've googled and wasn't able to find anything that worked |
| 03:09.19 | neil_m | meh back to work |
| 03:10.20 | *** join/#debian superstraw (~superstra@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-hyflaptquvcojfpg) |
| 03:11.12 | StuckMojo | meh. not worth the trouble i guess |
| 03:11.13 | *** part/#debian StuckMojo (~jon@insectosaurus.thewickedtribe.net) |
| 03:12.52 | thevdude | neil_m, it worked, it just doesn't work with thunar. Not worried about it, I was setting it up in fstab anyway. |
| 03:12.52 | thevdude | :D |
| 03:13.03 | thevdude | I'll figure out the thunar stuff later, since it's not a debian problem. |
| 03:13.05 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 03:13.05 | *** part/#debian thevdude (~thevdude@pool-74-109-247-149.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1040] by debhelper |
| 03:15.31 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 03:15.39 | *** join/#debian MmikeMRMA (~msplival@cpe-188-129-72-151.dynamic.amis.hr) |
| 03:16.33 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net) |
| 03:17.18 | *** join/#debian Blue1 (foobar@ip72-200-67-229.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 03:17.29 | *** join/#debian peregrinator_six (~humano@unaffiliated/peregrinator-six/x-3729336) |
| 03:19.55 | *** join/#debian luchus (~cryptonit@186.59.77.58) |
| 03:22.18 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 03:25.35 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 03:27.51 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@97-120-76-173.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 03:27.51 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 03:29.30 | start | I have tons of GTK_IS_WIDGIT assertion failed |
| 03:29.34 | start | from inkspace |
| 03:30.09 | *** join/#debian nas (~nas@64.141.21.22) |
| 03:30.12 | nas | a |
| 03:30.22 | nas | i have nvidia hdmi |
| 03:30.29 | nas | i want to get sound out of it |
| 03:30.36 | nas | it seems like it is showing up |
| 03:30.43 | nas | i just dont know how to direct sound to it |
| 03:30.50 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@189.188.149.74) |
| 03:31.03 | *** join/#debian katsrc (~quassel@cpe-69-203-198-189.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:31.25 | nas | card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] |
| 03:31.25 | nas | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.25 | nas | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.33 | nas | thats from aplay -l |
| 03:33.12 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 03:35.16 | *** join/#debian ajaykools (~ajay@117.192.199.156) |
| 03:35.22 | *** join/#debian ajay_ (~ajay@117.192.199.156) |
| 03:36.30 | cardamon | I'm moving to Wheezy. Didn't know to to change /etc/apt/apt.conf to testing. Tried it and still get "E: The value 'testing' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources" |
| 03:39.43 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 03:39.44 | *** join/#debian Sweetandy (~sweetandy@unaffiliated/sweetandy) |
| 03:41.16 | *** join/#debian Jordan_U (~jordan@216.57.70.194) |
| 03:42.07 | *** join/#debian frozencemetery (~frozencem@CMU-786527.WV.CC.CMU.EDU) |
| 03:43.19 | *** join/#debian Xilent (~quassel@pdpc/supporter/active/xilent) |
| 03:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1046] by debhelper |
| 03:45.47 | *** part/#debian frozencemetery (~frozencem@CMU-786527.WV.CC.CMU.EDU) |
| 03:48.22 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 03:49.02 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@189.188.149.74) |
| 03:50.57 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 03:51.33 | *** join/#debian laptopandy (~laptopand@c-24-17-22-228.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 03:51.53 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-67-45-166.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:52.12 | zykotick9 | cardamon, you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:52.35 | cardamon | zykotick9: Done already. |
| 03:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1040] by debhelper |
| 03:54.28 | *** join/#debian ajaykools (~ajay@117.192.199.156) |
| 03:54.30 | *** join/#debian oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) |
| 03:54.35 | *** join/#debian ajay_ (~ajay@117.192.199.156) |
| 03:55.03 | *** join/#debian kegwin (~willk@c-24-23-46-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:57.38 | cardamon | zykotick9: I edited it BEFORE I edited /etc/apt/apt.conf, running dist-upgrade in between. |
| 03:57.54 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone) |
| 03:58.23 | zykotick9 | cardamon, i'm guessing there is an issue with your sources.list - the error seems to suggest anyways. |
| 03:58.50 | *** join/#debian AsuraLe (~ashurta@118.114.190.133) |
| 03:59.21 | *** join/#debian lovdebian (~jamieson@71.11.175.78) |
| 03:59.29 | cardamon | zykotick9: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free 7 deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 04:00.18 | zykotick9 | cardamon, unstable != testing |
| 04:00.24 | cardamon | tried 'wheezy' or 'testing' |
| 04:04.07 | lovdebian | I've never seen anything like this! I can't connect to any ports on a remote box from some boxes on my LAN (behind DNAT f/w) but can from others, but can ping the remote box from all of them. |
| 04:05.08 | lovdebian | i.e., connecting to 25 gets me an EHLO from one box on the LAN but not from another. |
| 04:05.15 | lovdebian | DNS resolution is correct |
| 04:05.32 | *** join/#debian htoothrot (~mux@66-169-185-121.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 04:05.36 | cardamon | ah fixed |
| 04:05.37 | lovdebian | this occurs even if I drop all iptables scripts on remote box and reboot. |
| 04:06.04 | *** join/#debian bambanx (~crazycat@pc-10-52-239-201.cm.vtr.net) |
| 04:06.27 | lovdebian | i've been doing this a while and I'm stumped. Weirdest thing is that nmap from the non-working desktops show those ports as Open, I just can't connect to them. |
| 04:06.47 | lovdebian | this is occurring at a customer's worksite as well -- they literally can't get to email. |
| 04:06.51 | *** join/#debian vsmatck (~smack@64-142-40-6.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 04:07.35 | lovdebian | I get connection timed out when trying to telnet to port 25. |
| 04:07.52 | lovdebian | it sounds like the SYN packets are getting blackholed, but by what. |
| 04:08.03 | lovdebian | and why do ICMP packets get through |
| 04:08.09 | lovdebian | is stumped |
| 04:09.36 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@190.148.110.76) |
| 04:10.13 | *** join/#debian cygnus83 (humpty@pool-173-53-85-25.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 04:11.41 | *** join/#debian Jordan_U (~jordan@216.57.70.194) |
| 04:12.26 | *** join/#debian symptom (~symptom@99-162-145-198.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:12.26 | *** join/#debian symptom (~symptom@unaffiliated/symptom) |
| 04:12.45 | *** join/#debian bier (~bier@p54A5A98D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:13.10 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-72-81-141-185.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 04:13.52 | *** join/#debian bier|tp (~bier@p54A5A98D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:14.08 | lovdebian | that goes for ALL ports on remote machine - 80, 443, 143, 25, 993, 22,.. can ping, but can't connect. anyone seen this before? |
| 04:14.52 | Wyzard | lovdebian: firewall, and/or simply nothing listening on those ports? |
| 04:14.58 | Wyzard | (sorry, didn't see the first part of your question) |
| 04:16.35 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@133.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 04:16.47 | Rusty1 | lovdebian: only when somebody left tenet open |
| 04:16.51 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 04:16.59 | Rusty1 | *telnet |
| 04:17.27 | lovdebian | Wyzard: sorry, no worries! no, even if I disable iptables, still can't get there |
| 04:17.41 | lovdebian | and I'd be seen as connecting from same IP anyway (behind a NAT f/w here) |
| 04:17.59 | lovdebian | also customers on another network can't get there mail or access any other ports on this machine. |
| 04:18.03 | lovdebian | but everyone can ping it fine. |
| 04:18.16 | bambanx | how i can use a proxy on my shell ? |
| 04:18.40 | lovdebian | Rusty1: no i'm saying use telnet to connect to port 25 (smtp) to see if I get a prompt. |
| 04:19.04 | lovdebian | (you can use telnet or netcat to connect to remote services and enter a protocol conversation with them) |
| 04:20.02 | lovdebian | In other words, from boxes A and C on my lan (but not B), I can get to X (which is not behind a firewall but lives in another continent). |
| 04:20.11 | lovdebian | however, both A, B, and C can ping X. |
| 04:20.12 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 04:20.50 | lovdebian | and, nmap on A, C, (and B!) can all nmap X and show all ports are open. B just can't attach to any of them. |
| 04:21.05 | lovdebian | so, problem with B, right? nope. problem at customer's site too |
| 04:21.16 | *** join/#debian biggi_mat (~biggi_mat@89-212-191-144.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 04:21.18 | *** join/#debian harovali (~harovali@r190-64-127-32.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 04:21.31 | lovdebian | and they're using XP. |
| 04:22.22 | Rusty1 | call travel agent |
| 04:22.52 | lovdebian | Wyzard: it's also probably not firewall-related (I thought maybe the Datacenter provider had done something, filtering certain ports perhaps) because all the boxes (A,B,C) can get to another box on same network (call it Y) |
| 04:22.58 | *** join/#debian compromised (~avalon@shellium/member/avalon) |
| 04:23.06 | *** join/#debian sweetandy (~laptopand@unaffiliated/sweetandy) |
| 04:23.14 | lovdebian | Rusty1: hahaha. No, I can log into it from here, but only from A & C, not B |
| 04:23.36 | lovdebian | (I control the box, ie can disable iptables completely etc) |
| 04:23.45 | lovdebian | it's just a standard Squeeze box. nothing fancy. |
| 04:24.05 | Tramp | don't nmap for diagnosis from behind a NAT. Chances are, you fill up the tables on the NAT-device and get weird results |
| 04:25.17 | lovdebian | Tramp: ok. I used -T5, too -but the results from NMAP were correct.. ports that should be closed were, and vice-versa -- on both working and non-working boxes. |
| 04:25.29 | lovdebian | (they're all linux here, so I can do all my tests from right here.) |
| 04:25.42 | lovdebian | I'd guess routing, except that all the boxes here are going through same IP |
| 04:25.50 | lovdebian | plus ICMP works |
| 04:26.15 | lovdebian | i.e., I can ping this box from all the boxes just fine. |
| 04:26.51 | lovdebian | I'm in USA, box is in Germany. We have several boxes in Germany on same subnet, this is only one with problem. |
| 04:27.06 | lovdebian | I was thinking maybe bad subnet mask or something... but this is a new problem. |
| 04:27.27 | lovdebian | maybe the datactr did something with routing tables, but then none of the boxes here should work |
| 04:27.34 | lovdebian | same with hosts.deny or iptables. |
| 04:27.47 | Rusty1 | was working before then nada |
| 04:27.50 | lovdebian | right |
| 04:28.18 | lovdebian | and that's all ports -- smtp, imap, http, ssh, everything. it's a blank wall, but icmp still works. |
| 04:28.20 | Rusty1 | dtatctr or isp i suppose |
| 04:28.31 | *** join/#debian luff (~root@121.18.236.163) |
| 04:29.06 | lovdebian | yeah, but what could they have done? if they screwed routing, icmp should break. if they are filtering ports, then all boxes behind this ip should break |
| 04:29.25 | lovdebian | (ie all boxes here in my house) |
| 04:29.57 | Tramp | log in. tcpdump. see if packets (1) come in (2) go out when connecting from working/non working client. |
| 04:32.10 | *** join/#debian albech (~albech@183.88.67.63) |
| 04:32.52 | *** part/#debian luff (~root@121.18.236.163) |
| 04:33.04 | *** join/#debian Rheault (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 04:33.54 | lovdebian | Tramp: (working on it) |
| 04:34.21 | *** join/#debian Jordan_U (~jordan@216.57.70.194) |
| 04:35.31 | lovdebian | Tramp: no. packets come/go from working client (as expected) but not bad client. |
| 04:36.05 | lovdebian | Tramp: wait a sec, let me try one more time |
| 04:36.14 | lovdebian | Tramp: some packets just came across |
| 04:37.11 | lovdebian | Tramp: yes, on both ends (running tcpdump on both sides), showing smtp packets only going from local to remote |
| 04:38.44 | Tramp | hmm. and can you dump somewhere inbetween, e.g. the local router, to check how far the outgoing packets go? |
| 04:38.44 | *** join/#debian Ridout (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 04:39.10 | lovdebian | Tramp: the outgoing packets go all the way -- they're showing up in tcpdump running on the remote server itself |
| 04:39.20 | lovdebian | but not return packets |
| 04:39.43 | Tramp | ... what is not what you said 5 minutes ago ... |
| 04:39.56 | lovdebian | How so? |
| 04:40.16 | Tramp | "packets come/go from working client (as expected) but not bad client" |
| 04:40.49 | lovdebian | from broken box (running tcpdump locally), smtp packets show leaving the station. on remote box in germany, tcpdump shows them arriving in orderly fashion. |
| 04:41.17 | Tramp | and this remote box answers them properly? |
| 04:41.20 | lovdebian | from working box, packets also leave germany and travel back to usa.. |
| 04:41.39 | lovdebian | right, works fine from another working linux box on same lan here in usa |
| 04:41.54 | lovdebian | can i pm you |
| 04:42.27 | Tramp | well, it you want - I just don't have much time left - but anyways. |
| 04:42.37 | *** join/#debian marcuspat (~marcuspat@c-71-56-144-183.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 04:42.58 | lovdebian | just some semblance of privacy for the ip ;-) |
| 04:43.15 | lovdebian | can you get to port 25 there? |
| 04:43.47 | *** join/#debian kegwin (~willk@c-24-23-46-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:44.42 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 04:45.13 | *** join/#debian df00z (~diefool@96.25.122.215) |
| 04:45.26 | lovdebian | interesting link shows 10mb/s |
| 04:46.56 | Blue1 | iirc port 25 is for smtp |
| 04:47.13 | lovdebian | blubberdiblub: right |
| 04:47.22 | lovdebian | Blue1: sorry right ;-) |
| 04:47.35 | lovdebian | just as a useful test... |
| 04:47.39 | Tramp | yeah. I checked from my vserver. Works fine for me. |
| 04:47.53 | Blue1 | yeah telnet |
| 04:48.09 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 04:48.13 | lovdebian | right, looks good for me too from almost all boxes -- except one box here and several customre boxes in a different state |
| 04:48.27 | lovdebian | so i'm a bit stuck |
| 04:48.42 | Tramp | lovdebian: what I wanted to know previously is, if the remote server answers the packets from the "non working" client |
| 04:49.11 | lovdebian | Tramp: no -- I don't see packets leaving the remote server and I don't see any coming in on non-working client |
| 04:49.27 | lovdebian | in other words, remote server isn't even making the attempt to respond, even though he sees the packets coming in |
| 04:49.32 | Blue1 | lovdebian: using iptraf? |
| 04:49.45 | lovdebian | Blue1: no... |
| 04:49.59 | lovdebian | tcpdump |
| 04:50.03 | lovdebian | just grepping for smtp |
| 04:50.09 | Blue1 | lovdebian: that also works |
| 04:50.16 | lovdebian | don't know iptraf, good stuff? |
| 04:50.19 | Tramp | lovdebian: so the problem apparently is with the server, not the routing |
| 04:50.23 | *** join/#debian abchirk_ (~abchirk@f052204136.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 04:50.26 | lovdebian | Tramp: yes |
| 04:50.36 | lovdebian | that appears to be the case. ALL ports on server, apparently. |
| 04:50.52 | lovdebian | but iptables -L doesn't show anything. (well, it didn't until I put firewall back on) |
| 04:50.54 | Blue1 | lovdebian: it monitors all the ip traffic on the interfaces - |
| 04:51.46 | Tramp | lovdebian: and those incoming packets (from working/n.w. client) look the same? (except from the sourceport) |
| 04:52.29 | *** join/#debian heinzes|2 (~kvirc@c-98-193-169-96.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 04:53.02 | lovdebian | Tramp: checking... I don't know most of the data in tcpdump |
| 04:53.28 | lovdebian | checking out iptraf |
| 04:53.35 | lovdebian | better for viewing data? |
| 04:54.09 | Blue1 | lovdebian: dunno its what I am used to using -- but there is always more then 1 way to arrive at the correct answer |
| 04:55.02 | *** part/#debian kegwin (~willk@c-24-23-46-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:55.23 | lovdebian | Blue1: I was just grepping out my own ssh packets and grepping for smtp ;-) |
| 04:55.51 | Blue1 | lovdebian: you can actually see the packet being sent in near realtime |
| 04:56.15 | Blue1 | lovdebian: but there's a lotta crap in the output. |
| 04:56.28 | *** part/#debian sweetandy (~laptopand@unaffiliated/sweetandy) |
| 04:56.43 | Blue1 | lovdebian: i used iptraf to debug wakeuponlan |
| 04:57.02 | Tramp | tcpdump -ni eth0 tcp port 25 |
| 04:57.16 | lovdebian | Blue1: this is pretty cool stuff |
| 04:57.18 | Tramp | provided eth0 is the interface |
| 04:57.33 | lovdebian | Tramp: I'll just paste those into a pastebin I guess, IP's be damned ;-) |
| 04:57.54 | Tramp | yes. One connect for working and one for non-working please |
| 04:57.56 | Blue1 | lovdebian: i think tramps solution would prolly work better, but then again - there's more then 1 right way. |
| 05:00.44 | lovdebian | Tramp: now not seeing them on remote side... |
| 05:01.14 | Tramp | not seeing what? |
| 05:01.29 | lovdebian | there they were. I was trying to grep out the other traffic |
| 05:01.45 | lovdebian | ok one sec prepping pastebin |
| 05:03.11 | *** join/#debian pierreghz_ (~pierreghz@cust-37-114-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 05:03.30 | lovdebian | http://pastebin.com/QCbbYrsS (bad box) |
| 05:03.34 | lovdebian | doing good box now.. |
| 05:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1033] by debhelper |
| 05:05.36 | *** join/#debian Fudge (~TAS@220-253-44-226.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 05:06.28 | lovdebian | ok from good box too : http://pastebin.com/dxgHc1ea |
| 05:06.34 | *** join/#debian simonlnu (~simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) |
| 05:07.01 | *** join/#debian unomystEz (~unomystEz@cpe-68-173-69-193.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 05:07.12 | lovdebian | uh looks like I got some other traffic slipped int here too -- 178.x.x.x isn't my box here. one sec |
| 05:07.17 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 05:07.30 | lovdebian | oh doh that's the other end ha ;-) |
| 05:07.54 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 05:08.20 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 05:08.44 | *** part/#debian Styles (u3503@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uxydczvodxpgpxjt) |
| 05:10.04 | lovdebian | Tramp: this remote box actually has some linux-vservers running on it, and same issue on those ip's too (shared eth0 ==) |
| 05:10.17 | *** join/#debian josephseraos (~josephser@201.46.57.160) |
| 05:10.30 | Tramp | this is weird indeed |
| 05:10.48 | lovdebian | Tramp: yeah, I've never seen anything like it. |
| 05:10.58 | josephseraos | hi everybody, I'd like to make my screen to sleep. How could I do it via command line? I know this command "xset dpms force off" but it doesn't work very well. It seems to be working but for some reason after 5 seconds of suspend it goes back to the screensaver mode. |
| 05:11.22 | lovdebian | josephseraos: is this a laptop? |
| 05:11.59 | *** join/#debian wroos (~wroos@83.172.84.178) |
| 05:12.39 | lovdebian | Tramp: true story, my customer told me they couldn't access the webmail screen in NY. (I'm in TX) but they could get to everything else (Google, etc). I figured operator error. Then I thought maybe we had a route down or losing packets between USA and DE. |
| 05:12.49 | *** join/#debian symptom (~symptom@99-162-145-198.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:12.49 | *** join/#debian symptom (~symptom@unaffiliated/symptom) |
| 05:12.59 | lovdebian | Weirdest was when I logged into their onsite server (they're not a big company) and could get to this box on all ports just fine. |
| 05:14.15 | lovdebian | Tramp, Blue1 ... any chance this could be tcpwrappers or something? i mean, hosts.deny is empty |
| 05:15.14 | lovdebian | Hetzner (DE) has some serious bandwidth... like 200+Gigabits |
| 05:15.27 | lovdebian | I wonder if they did something as part of their anti-DDOS activities |
| 05:15.42 | lovdebian | maybe they're doing SPI or something |
| 05:15.54 | Tramp | lovdebian: no - as you correctly noted before, the server cannot distinguish between "good" and "bad" client since you come from behind the NAT |
| 05:16.03 | *** join/#debian josef__ (~josef@188-194-63-116-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 05:16.29 | lovdebian | Tramp: hmm.. |
| 05:16.44 | lovdebian | Tramp: so definitely not iptables or something. |
| 05:16.52 | Tramp | exactly |
| 05:17.37 | lovdebian | this is very repeatable on client side. (This linux box with problem is actually my living room home theater box). i'm ssh'ed into my desktop in other room for "good" pc tests |
| 05:17.52 | lovdebian | so I've rebooted this box several times in last 24 hours. |
| 05:19.11 | Tramp | can you tcpdump one more on the server side with "tcpdump -ni eth0 tcp port 25 or icmp" from "bad box" - just tell me, if you see any icmp-packets |
| 05:19.13 | lovdebian | (this box = the problem linux box). also rebooted the remote server itself, in fact. |
| 05:19.30 | lovdebian | I'm going to get lots of port 25 stuff.. |
| 05:19.40 | lovdebian | want just icmp for a few minutes while you ping it? |
| 05:19.50 | lovdebian | is probably missing the point |
| 05:20.18 | Tramp | I want to see, if the server sends out an icmp packet in response to the tcp-connection from "bad box". |
| 05:20.30 | lovdebian | ah ok one sec |
| 05:20.33 | *** join/#debian littlegiraffe (~user@poco208-2.fredcanhelp.com) |
| 05:21.36 | *** join/#debian Miss_Anthropie (~blob@gssn-5f7568bb.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 05:21.48 | lovdebian | Tramp: I have to grep out the ip address only |
| 05:21.51 | josephseraos | lovdebian, Yes it is |
| 05:21.57 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 05:22.25 | lovdebian | josephseraos: probably want to use some acpi utils instead |
| 05:22.45 | lovdebian | Tramp: one interesting datapoint... |
| 05:22.47 | Tramp | lovdebian: you can add "and host 71.11.175.78" to restrict the dump to this IP |
| 05:22.59 | lovdebian | ah good point! |
| 05:23.03 | josephseraos | lovdebian, ? |
| 05:23.46 | josephseraos | lovdebian, I want type a command, and then, screens laptop turn off, because I don't have any key to do this |
| 05:24.12 | Tramp | you just have to add parentheses for precedence, as in : tcpdump -ni eth0 \(tcp port 25 or icmp\) and host 71.11.175.78 |
| 05:24.33 | lovdebian | Tramp: ah that's helpful. (but seeming to get packets anyway) |
| 05:24.35 | lovdebian | one sec |
| 05:25.17 | lovdebian | no nothing more so far... |
| 05:25.21 | lovdebian | pasting full run |
| 05:25.48 | simonlnu | tcpdump has some interesting if verbose syntax |
| 05:26.19 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:26.36 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 05:26.38 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 05:26.42 | lovdebian | http://pastebin.com/uhDyaQ8v |
| 05:26.51 | lovdebian | simonlnu: agreed ;-) |
| 05:27.18 | lovdebian | josephseraos: do you have a sleep.sh in your path? |
| 05:27.38 | lovdebian | josephseraos: http://wiki.debian.org/Suspend |
| 05:28.23 | *** join/#debian willj (~willj__@24-145-40-016-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net) |
| 05:28.38 | *** join/#debian popkill (~popkill@unaffiliated/popkill) |
| 05:28.44 | lovdebian | simonlnu: it's actually kinda cool, like python's boolean operators (if user is logged_in and user is admin: print 'nice one') |
| 05:29.10 | lovdebian | ok actually that'd be dumb, since "is" is actually saying "is the same exact in-memory object" |
| 05:29.24 | simonlnu | sorta |
| 05:29.36 | simonlnu | (re: python syntax) |
| 05:29.37 | lovdebian | so you'd have to say user=admin=logged_in=True ;-) |
| 05:29.52 | *** join/#debian MorrisC (~morrisc@60.248.16.65) |
| 05:29.57 | lovdebian | or something like that ;-) |
| 05:30.05 | lovdebian | likes python |
| 05:30.23 | *** join/#debian oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) |
| 05:30.24 | lovdebian | Tramp: what do you think? give up? |
| 05:30.55 | lovdebian | seriously, i'm ready to just fail this remote box over to it's backup |
| 05:30.59 | Tramp | lovdebian: sorry, remains a mystery to me. You may want to try in ##networking - though Sunday 2am Eastern Time maybe is a bad time to ask |
| 05:31.03 | lovdebian | but it's an interesting problem |
| 05:31.07 | Tramp | indeed. |
| 05:31.09 | lovdebian | ;-) yes you're probably right! |
| 05:31.18 | lovdebian | thank you Tramp for working on it so much. |
| 05:31.25 | lovdebian | I have no clue why it's happening either. |
| 05:31.56 | Tramp | :) because it is an interesting problem - but i got to go - come back and tell me, what it was, if you ever find out |
| 05:32.05 | lovdebian | Tramp: but you're fairly certain it's not server, and it's not the intervening pipes (transatlantic) and it's not my box here and it's not my NAT.. maybe it's solar flares |
| 05:32.10 | lovdebian | grins |
| 05:32.18 | lovdebian | wonder if the box got rootkitted |
| 05:32.30 | simonlnu | neutrinos hitting the server's mobo ;p |
| 05:32.33 | Tramp | cu |
| 05:32.39 | lovdebian | simonlnu: right |
| 05:32.42 | lovdebian | Tramp: thanks & cu2! |
| 05:32.58 | lovdebian | simonlnu: at exactly the same time that I'm trying to log in. |
| 05:33.06 | simonlnu | heh |
| 05:33.41 | lovdebian | you have any theories/ |
| 05:33.52 | simonlnu | it hit some quantum bubble and decreased entropy, and so there wasn't enough to complete the ssh transaction. ;p |
| 05:34.11 | simonlnu | seriously though, my first thought was 'bug' |
| 05:34.14 | lovdebian | ;-) (or any transaction, not just ssh -- smtp, http, everything's down) |
| 05:34.26 | lovdebian | simonlnu: bug in what? kernel? |
| 05:34.34 | simonlnu | or, some fubar startup script |
| 05:34.36 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 05:34.49 | lovdebian | that's probably be one of mine ;-) |
| 05:34.52 | simonlnu | yeh, like the vserver stuff, its networking to be exact |
| 05:34.56 | *** join/#debian littlegiraffe (~user@poco208-2.fredcanhelp.com) |
| 05:35.11 | lovdebian | simonlnu: hmm. ok. good test. I'll reboot into a different kernel. |
| 05:35.14 | *** join/#debian phate408 (Phate@c-24-20-92-230.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:36.37 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 05:36.53 | simonlnu | mind you, let me know if you've tried something, as i only started "un-lurking" when i piped up |
| 05:37.02 | simonlnu | * and i mention it |
| 05:37.06 | lovdebian | simonlnu: good call ;-) |
| 05:37.28 | simonlnu | hm? |
| 05:38.00 | lovdebian | I love hetzner's stuff ... they have a nice (and open source) remote boot/rescue environment (ie netboot/pxe) in case I screw up kernels ;-) |
| 05:38.08 | simonlnu | nice |
| 05:38.22 | simonlnu | thoughtful |
| 05:38.47 | lovdebian | handy when i'm on other side of pond ;-)... i worked with another dc company in paris many years ago and they charged me 100 eur to reinstall after i screwed kernels |
| 05:39.04 | simonlnu | O_O |
| 05:39.11 | simonlnu | so what's up? |
| 05:39.25 | josephseraos | lovdebian, thanks, I gotta go, I'll try again later. I just want make my screen to sleep, like we do with a desktop's monitor. |
| 05:39.27 | lovdebian | oh. OH |
| 05:39.40 | lovdebian | josephseraos: secret is acpi. |
| 05:39.59 | lovdebian | simonlnu: oh... this is working now on non-vserver kernel. |
| 05:40.04 | josephseraos | what's aspi? |
| 05:40.15 | simonlnu | aah |
| 05:40.18 | lovdebian | josephseraos: acpi - power management |
| 05:40.36 | simonlnu | nice to know my intuition is still working ;p |
| 05:40.48 | lovdebian | right on ;-) nice work |
| 05:41.05 | lovdebian | simonlnu: but i have to have that... ;-) re-installing, see if it breaks again. this should be interesting |
| 05:41.51 | josephseraos | lovdebian, Great! BUT I don't want wait any second. I want just create a shortcut and click then. So, My laptop's screen turn off. (just the screen) |
| 05:42.07 | lovdebian | interesting, get "possible missing firmware" for module r8169) yeah that's realtek... |
| 05:42.34 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@31.47.40.207) |
| 05:42.39 | lovdebian | josephseraos: you asked for a command line option! are you using kde or gnome? if the former, you can do this under display management somewhere |
| 05:43.07 | josephseraos | lovdebian, GNOME |
| 05:43.21 | lovdebian | josephseraos: then i have no idea, sorry, but i'm sure it's in the gnome settings somewhere. |
| 05:43.55 | lovdebian | josephseraos: debian or ubuntu |
| 05:44.08 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 05:44.27 | *** join/#debian FlowChart (~Miranda@dialin-hb-80-228-58-106.ewetel.net) |
| 05:44.33 | *** join/#debian xiangfu (~xiangfu@fidelio.qi-hardware.com) |
| 05:44.44 | josephseraos | lovdebian, Debian |
| 05:44.49 | josephseraos | lovdebian, And Ubuntu too |
| 05:45.43 | lovdebian | josephseraos: ok, here's a screenshot of what you're looking for: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870611 |
| 05:46.21 | *** join/#debian kimico (~kimico@cr-217-129-226-203.netvisao.pt) |
| 05:46.41 | josephseraos | lovdebian, Great, but I don't want close the lip |
| 05:47.20 | josephseraos | lovdebian, I want use like we use in a desktop's monitor, just pressing a button. But here, I want just press a icon |
| 05:49.25 | lovdebian | josephseraos: It's an interesting idea. You'd have to figure out what ACPI command turns off the monitor and then just create an icon for it. However, if you'r enot that familiar with this sort of stuff, then it might take you a few hours to figure it all out. |
| 05:49.58 | lovdebian | simonlnu: installing the proper realtek firmware (how was this card even working?!) didn't fix it. rebooting and then i'm popping into #vserver with some questions ;-) |
| 05:50.33 | lovdebian | those guys over there are incredibly helpful (and know their stuff) -- i'll let you knwo what I find out! |
| 05:51.00 | lovdebian | what's really weird is that Nothing has changed that I know of at the host level. kernel didn't change, scripts didn't change... |
| 05:51.15 | lovdebian | hmm. what if that kernel was compromised somehow |
| 05:51.15 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 05:52.10 | josephseraos | lovdebian, Yeah, I know. hahaha. I saw a command that do almost what I want -> "$ xset dpms force off" You can try. But in a few seconds, screen turn on without reason |
| 05:52.34 | lovdebian | simonlnu: switching back to my main desktop, I'll be back in 10.. interesting line of theory, really appreciate the idea! clearly it's something kernel-related |
| 05:53.16 | lovdebian | josephseraos: acpi is highly laptop-specific. It's annoying -- things which work great in one place don't work at all in others. |
| 05:53.35 | simonlnu | lovdebian: np. good luck with that |
| 05:53.53 | lovdebian | grins |
| 05:53.58 | lovdebian | thanks simonlnu ttys |
| 05:54.16 | lovdebian | josephseraos: read up a little bit on acpi, like google for acpi ubuntu tutorial or something |
| 05:54.26 | lovdebian | josephseraos: good luck |
| 05:54.51 | josephseraos | lovdebian, thanks, I'll do that. Thank you very much for try to help me |
| 05:55.02 | lovdebian | no worries ;-) |
| 05:56.12 | *** join/#debian Alam_Lenny (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 05:57.10 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 06:02.28 | *** join/#debian lovdebian (~jamieson@71.11.175.78) |
| 06:04.22 | *** join/#debian Jordan_U (~jordan@216.57.70.194) |
| 06:04.31 | *** join/#debian superlinux (~oracle@unaffiliated/superlinux) |
| 06:04.33 | *** join/#debian safejav (~safejav@200.127.95.226) |
| 06:04.49 | *** join/#debian marcuspat (~marcuspat@c-71-56-144-183.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 06:06.51 | *** join/#debian Shadows` (~Yup@ip68-109-207-49.cl.ri.cox.net) |
| 06:07.16 | *** join/#debian Lasers (~Lasers@unaffiliated/lasers) |
| 06:07.24 | superlinux | hi. I installed GNUStep development environment, but could not know how to run its IDE. and what's the executable name of the IDE? |
| 06:08.08 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian jeremym (~jsmartin@32.97.110.55) |
| 06:15.32 | *** join/#debian Shadows` (Shadowed@ip68-109-207-49.cl.ri.cox.net) |
| 06:18.29 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@31.47.40.207) |
| 06:18.58 | *** join/#debian sameerthahir (~smartbhai@111.92.70.55) |
| 06:21.28 | *** join/#debian peterrooney (~peter@S01060013461620b7.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 06:23.00 | nkuttler | superlinux: /usr/share/doc/package, dpkg -L package | grep bin |
| 06:23.03 | *** join/#debian jmarsden (~jmarsden@pool-71-160-69-56.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 06:23.04 | *** join/#debian jmarsden (~jmarsden@unaffiliated/jmarsden) |
| 06:24.09 | *** join/#debian trench (trench@your.place.no) |
| 06:24.09 | *** join/#debian trench (trench@unaffiliated/trench) |
| 06:24.44 | Bushmills | "Package `package' is not installed" |
| 06:26.07 | *** join/#debian desti (~desti@dslb-092-072-211-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:26.45 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slvmecha@c-71-233-237-67.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 06:27.13 | *** join/#debian SoulShadow (~Yup@ip68-109-207-49.cl.ri.cox.net) |
| 06:28.25 | *** part/#debian vsmatck (~smack@64-142-40-6.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 06:30.14 | *** join/#debian katsrc (~quassel@cpe-69-203-198-189.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 06:30.16 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@31.47.40.207) |
| 06:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1025] by debhelper |
| 06:34.24 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 06:35.15 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-76-119-248-54.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 06:35.19 | *** join/#debian sweetandy (~laptopand@unaffiliated/sweetandy) |
| 06:36.07 | superlinux | ok I found it! i installed the GNUstep desktop environment, instead of the developer's IDE |
| 06:36.17 | superlinux | heh :) |
| 06:37.42 | Bushmills | i told you :) |
| 06:38.39 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 06:38.40 | *** join/#debian ailo_ (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 06:43.18 | *** join/#debian Kakadu (~kakadu@217.71.235.218) |
| 06:46.49 | *** join/#debian HeavyMetal (~localhost@unaffiliated/thegeek1024) |
| 06:47.37 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 06:51.00 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-153-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:55.49 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 06:58.23 | *** join/#debian Guest84279 (~anonymous@188-167-105-156.dynamic.chello.sk) |
| 06:58.31 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-200.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 06:59.08 | *** join/#debian phate408 (Phate@c-24-20-92-230.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:03.12 | *** join/#debian Jordan_U (~jordan@216.57.70.194) |
| 07:03.50 | sweetandy | This is a bit embarassing |
| 07:04.00 | sweetandy | I'm having difficulties making a functional bootable USB to install debian |
| 07:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1031] by debhelper |
| 07:04.30 | sweetandy | I've tried dd and cat onto /dev/sda, and although it finishes and then boots to the menu, selecting any option turns the screen black and nothing happens |
| 07:04.58 | sweetandy | (unetbootin is not available for the powerpc arch, which is the computer I'm using to create the USB for an amd64 computer) |
| 07:05.43 | *** join/#debian Morten_ (~morten@2.107.15.157) |
| 07:06.07 | *** join/#debian zappal (~zappal@gateway/tor-sasl/zappal) |
| 07:07.35 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 07:09.35 | *** join/#debian ulaek (~ulaek@82.211.195.167) |
| 07:10.20 | *** join/#debian zuse_ (~zuse@HSI-KBW-046-005-198-011.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 07:10.38 | *** join/#debian handygandy (~handygand@adsl-76-197-129-112.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:10.45 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@homestuck.iskon.hr) |
| 07:10.55 | *** join/#debian Gm4n (~Gm4n@unaffiliated/gm4n) |
| 07:12.04 | *** join/#debian Mkaysi (Mkaysi@unaffiliated/mkaysi) |
| 07:12.19 | *** join/#debian sm1 (~sa@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 07:12.50 | wols_ | sweetandy: unetbooting won't work anyways. which debian are you trying to install? |
| 07:13.01 | sweetandy | Debian squeeze, netinstall, amd64 |
| 07:13.16 | wols_ | can you see if the kernel is loaded at all? |
| 07:13.25 | wols_ | e.g is data transfer going on? |
| 07:13.43 | sweetandy | Difficult to say. The screen is simply blank after selecting any option, and the little red indicator on the USB is not activated |
| 07:14.09 | wols_ | !kmuto |
| 07:14.09 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 2.6.39) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/oldstable/i386/ch04s03 |
| 07:14.43 | wols_ | you could try this kernel/installer or any other with firmware present. apart from that I dunno what could be wrong :( |
| 07:15.05 | sweetandy | The thing is, I've installed Debian 6 from a USB stick onto this computer before |
| 07:15.34 | sweetandy | For now, I'll just blame the iBook G4, and in the morning I'll use my mom's Ubuntu computer to make a proper USB stick |
| 07:15.59 | sweetandy | (CD is out of the question; the optical drive on the laptop in question is completely broken) |
| 07:16.12 | sweetandy | thanks anyway, though!! |
| 07:16.23 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 07:17.35 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@97-120-76-173.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 07:17.35 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 07:18.55 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 07:19.00 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 07:19.16 | *** join/#debian Rick__ (~rick@187.107.36.76) |
| 07:20.23 | sweetandy | Okay, I put an arch installer on the usb stick, and it explicitly states "Booting the kernel..." before going no further. |
| 07:21.23 | bambanx | how i can install easy_install |
| 07:21.56 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 07:30.10 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~0bitcount@213.37.52.142.static.user.ono.com) |
| 07:31.35 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 07:32.44 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 07:32.53 | *** join/#debian DrumScum (~tommy@d54C0A5D5.access.telenet.be) |
| 07:33.58 | *** join/#debian Deepy_ (freenode@109-124-157-251.customer.t3.se) |
| 07:34.31 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 07:35.39 | *** join/#debian huglester (~quassel@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 07:36.10 | *** join/#debian Tabmow (tabmow@freenode/staff/tabmow) |
| 07:39.37 | *** join/#debian m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 07:42.46 | wols_ | bambanx: what is "easy_install"? |
| 07:42.51 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 07:42.54 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 07:43.50 | AsuraLe | why i cannot install software from the software-center? |
| 07:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1038] by debhelper |
| 07:45.49 | wols_ | AsuraLe: can you install software with apt-get ? |
| 07:47.49 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 07:47.51 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:49.53 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 07:49.57 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 07:50.37 | *** join/#debian cygnus0111 (~janik@xdsl-83-150-84-65.nebulazone.fi) |
| 07:51.46 | *** join/#debian jaan0 (~radix@108.65.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 07:52.15 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@f052204136.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 07:54.51 | *** join/#debian jaytaph (~jaytaph@dhcp-077-249-050-185.chello.nl) |
| 07:55.42 | lovdebian | wols_: easy_install is the python package installer (analogous to cpan, or pear, or ruby gems) |
| 07:55.47 | *** join/#debian Raphaelt (~Raphael@ret08-1-88-182-200-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:56.05 | lovdebian | bambanx: just install python-setuptools |
| 07:56.27 | lovdebian | bambanx: then you'll get easy_installl |
| 07:56.46 | wols_ | lovdebian: thanks. I just call it "setup.py" :) |
| 07:56.57 | *** join/#debian DerPate (~dominik@85.183.99.23) |
| 07:57.03 | lovdebian | bambanx: don't forget that many, many packages are already available via apt-get. just apt-cache search <pacakge> |
| 07:57.37 | lovdebian | wols_: no worries. but easy_install is great and now built into python... like apt, it resolves deps and all. unlike apt, there's no uninstall. you have to go delete the package yoruself |
| 07:58.01 | nkuttler | pip > easy_install |
| 07:58.05 | lovdebian | s/build into python/built into debian |
| 07:58.25 | lovdebian | nkuttler: true but pip<easy_install because pip not in ['debian'] ;-) |
| 07:58.37 | nkuttler | easy_install pip |
| 07:58.52 | lovdebian | ooh, you ever get that feeling that you were just checkmated? |
| 07:58.56 | lovdebian | was just checkmated. |
| 07:59.16 | lovdebian | btw does pip handle uninstall |
| 07:59.22 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@ppp091138153023.dsl.hol.gr) |
| 07:59.40 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 07:59.51 | nkuttler | sure. you probably want to use virtualenv as well if you aren't yet |
| 08:00.25 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 08:00.31 | *** join/#debian chasing_Sol (~chasingSo@82.201.135.150) |
| 08:00.45 | lovdebian | nkuttler: nah, i don't care for virtualenv... i've used it a few times. just don't have the problem it solves. |
| 08:01.19 | lovdebian | but that's cool about pip, though, i didn't really use it beyond just trying it out because was happy with easy_install |
| 08:01.56 | lovdebian | maybe i'm not getting virtualenv. gives you a separate isolated set of python packages? |
| 08:02.12 | lovdebian | i only need one set on a system so i don't get that it helps me |
| 08:02.35 | bambanx | lovdebian, thanks |
| 08:02.54 | lovdebian | bambanx: np, and what nkuttler said too ;-) |
| 08:03.18 | *** join/#debian rtaylor (~littlegir@poco208-2.fredcanhelp.com) |
| 08:03.40 | nkuttler | lovdebian: ah well i use many virtualenvs. also makes it easy not to mess with debian stuff |
| 08:04.22 | lovdebian | nkuttler: that's a nice thing (since the debian python is a little weird)... i just custom-build 2.7.latest and use that (set env vars in .bashrc etc) |
| 08:04.58 | *** join/#debian BordeyBluenge (~bordeyblu@46.4.164.4) |
| 08:05.00 | lovdebian | still, I really want #! /usr/bin/env python to work with my pyuthon, but i've had some serious issues wiping out the /usr/bin/python symlink in debian. can't remember what, maybe it was grub related or something |
| 08:05.22 | lovdebian | gotta sleep, later all |
| 08:05.37 | *** join/#debian littlegiraffe (~littlegir@poco208-2.fredcanhelp.com) |
| 08:07.50 | *** join/#debian sohum (~sohum@pdpc/supporter/active/sohum) |
| 08:08.04 | sohum | so I've managed to screw up my emacs install's byte-compiled files |
| 08:08.12 | sohum | how do I get it recompile everything from the top? |
| 08:08.42 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~0bitcount@213.37.52.142.static.user.ono.com) |
| 08:09.22 | ompaul | #emacs on freenode might be better |
| 08:09.38 | *** join/#debian hellais (~a@93-35-48-147.ip53.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:10.09 | *** join/#debian littlegiraffe (~littlegir@poco208-2.fredcanhelp.com) |
| 08:11.21 | sohum | apparently the debian infrastructure is very specialised, or something? |
| 08:11.26 | *** join/#debian sidro (~sidro@86.120.61.72) |
| 08:11.48 | sohum | oh, duh |
| 08:11.56 | sohum | aptitude reinstall emacs23-common |
| 08:13.54 | *** join/#debian batchy (~batchy@81-64-235-241.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 08:14.41 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 08:16.17 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@40-26-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 08:16.37 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 08:18.41 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@188.pool85-57-73.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 08:19.07 | *** join/#debian Ota|RhythmGames (~Ota-kun@adsl-76-200-149-86.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 08:21.01 | *** join/#debian BlueG (~blue@c-68-60-20-112.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 08:21.34 | *** join/#debian skrewler (~skrewler@70-36-139-123.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 08:22.07 | *** join/#debian Gottaname (~Gottaname@bb219-74-197-57.singnet.com.sg) |
| 08:22.23 | *** join/#debian mogrohl (~mogrohl@unaffiliated/mogrohl) |
| 08:23.09 | *** join/#debian war9407 (war@c-71-62-63-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 08:23.17 | *** join/#debian grindax (~grindax@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust173.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:23.30 | *** join/#debian compromised (~avalon@shellium/member/avalon) |
| 08:23.44 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.50.28.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 08:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1048] by debhelper |
| 08:24.21 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.149.132) |
| 08:25.06 | *** join/#debian Jussi_ (~jussi@0132700296.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 08:26.21 | *** join/#debian glitch-mod (~glitch-mo@pool-71-190-229-236.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 08:26.28 | *** join/#debian Python1320 (~python132@plutonium.iriz.org) |
| 08:26.28 | *** join/#debian Python1320 (~python132@unaffiliated/python1320) |
| 08:27.06 | *** join/#debian Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl) |
| 08:30.07 | sohum | I can't be the first person to want to generalise Map a b and a -> b |
| 08:30.31 | *** join/#debian peppe (~peppe@unaffiliated/peppe) |
| 08:30.38 | sohum | wait, wrong channel :p |
| 08:30.39 | *** part/#debian sohum (~sohum@pdpc/supporter/active/sohum) |
| 08:30.54 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@alcotrash.org) |
| 08:34.01 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 08:34.31 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@mna75-11-88-161-199-178.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:39.42 | *** join/#debian utilizzatore (~utilizzat@93-41-175-103.ip82.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:39.46 | utilizzatore | ciao |
| 08:39.49 | utilizzatore | !list |
| 08:39.49 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
| 08:40.20 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 08:40.51 | *** join/#debian Flash_ (~Digdilem@plague.digdilem.org) |
| 08:40.54 | *** part/#debian utilizzatore (~utilizzat@93-41-175-103.ip82.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:42.20 | *** join/#debian EyesIsServer (~eyes@unaffiliated/eyesismine) |
| 08:44.29 | war9407 | Anyone here well versed with iptables/iproute2 for a routing question? |
| 08:45.02 | wols_ | !anyone |
| 08:45.03 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 08:46.24 | war9407 | I have two private networks: subnetA = 192.168.0.0/24 subnetB = 192.168.1.0/24. My primary network is 192.168.0.0/24, I have a second interface (192.168.1.254), the router on that subnet is 192.168.1.1--I've added a static route (ip route add 192.168.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.254 (then I can get to all the other machines on subnetB )-- I've done similar for the router (192.168.1.1) on the other subnet-- but from the other subnet I cannot ping h |
| 08:46.24 | war9407 | osts on my primary subnet (192.168.0.0/24) -- it did work once or twice when I was playing with a bunch of rules/routes but I don't recall which one fixed it, any thoughts? |
| 08:46.55 | littlegiraffe | l |
| 08:47.24 | *** join/#debian SushiDude (~sushi@unaffiliated/sushidude) |
| 08:47.44 | thewanderer1 | war9407: "your primary network interface" = whose primary network interface? a router's? a hosts? this is not clear from the outset |
| 08:48.17 | *** join/#debian syslq (~syslq@91.185.207.168) |
| 08:48.40 | war9407 | thewanderer1:i have 7 interfaces, eth0-eth6, the primary interface (the one with the defautl gateway is eth2) |
| 08:48.58 | thewanderer1 | so it's a router? |
| 08:49.38 | war9407 | thewanderer1: yes |
| 08:49.47 | war9407 | (linux host/iproute2/iptables/etc) |
| 08:49.57 | thewanderer1 | and you have another router there? |
| 08:49.59 | *** join/#debian fredy (~tobias_@ppp046177105160.dsl.hol.gr) |
| 08:50.02 | zappal | war9407: |
| 08:50.11 | war9407 | thewanderer1: exactly (192.168.1.0/24) = linksys |
| 08:50.54 | zappal | war9407: if you'd like to route via kernel --> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward should be 1 |
| 08:51.02 | *** join/#debian ningbojoe (~ningbojoe@203.56.245.123) |
| 08:51.16 | war9407 | zappal: this is set to [1] , confirmed. |
| 08:51.35 | thewanderer1 | and you want to route via 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.254 between those two networks |
| 08:51.58 | thewanderer1 | do the hosts know which router they should use? |
| 08:52.32 | thewanderer1 | it's almost never good to have 2 routers in 1 subnet |
| 08:52.33 | war9407 | thewanderer1: I apologize, I want to allow connectivity between the two subnets (separate ISPs etc) but not routing their packets to the internet |
| 08:52.56 | *** join/#debian Kakadu (~kakadu@217.71.235.218) |
| 08:53.19 | war9407 | 192.168.0.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 with ip route add 10.0.1.0/24 via 10.0.1.254 <- this gets me half way there (I can communicate with the other subnet) |
| 08:53.38 | thewanderer1 | now what the hell is 10.10.1.0/24 ? |
| 08:53.45 | war9407 | typo |
| 08:53.57 | war9407 | 192.0.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.254 |
| 08:54.03 | war9407 | 168* cant type ;P |
| 08:54.08 | war9407 | anyway.. |
| 08:54.12 | thewanderer1 | this looks wrong |
| 08:54.31 | war9407 | the router (linux box) is 0.1 |
| 08:54.34 | thewanderer1 | where were you adding the routes, anyway? |
| 08:54.41 | war9407 | the router (linksys) is 1.1 |
| 08:54.47 | war9407 | on both the linux box and linksys |
| 08:54.58 | thewanderer1 | why do you need a few routers there? |
| 08:55.36 | war9407 | thewanderer1: multiple separate networks/ISPs but there exists a need for inter-communication (the machines are next to eachother but on separate networks) still need to communicate between the machines (and NOT over the internet) |
| 08:56.52 | *** join/#debian chasing_Sol (~chasingSo@82.201.135.150) |
| 08:57.04 | thewanderer1 | so 192.168.0.1 should be the gateway to the Internet |
| 08:57.12 | thewanderer1 | 192.168.1.1 should be the gateway to the Internet |
| 08:57.36 | war9407 | correct and the need to communicate between both subnets is needed (but not route out to the internet from 1 to the other) |
| 08:57.41 | *** join/#debian AsuraLe (~ashurta@118.114.190.133) |
| 08:58.11 | thewanderer1 | ok well, establish a private network between routers for their internal use only |
| 08:58.22 | thewanderer1 | that will be your routing backbone |
| 08:58.33 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs109108016252.pp.htv.fi) |
| 08:58.36 | thewanderer1 | say, 10.0.0.0/30 should be enough |
| 08:58.52 | thewanderer1 | then all hosts still have their respective router as the default gateway |
| 08:59.08 | thewanderer1 | but the routers are smart and know to route the packets to the other subnet via the backbone |
| 08:59.11 | *** join/#debian Slystone (~stony1@213.47.4.93.rev.sfr.net) |
| 09:00.16 | war9407 | thewanderer1: makes sense, one question though, its best to use a second network/ able for the connection between each router correct? (for the 10.0.0.0/30) |
| 09:00.24 | war9407 | rather than virtual hosts/ips /etc |
| 09:00.42 | thewanderer1 | I don't know what "virtual hosts" mean in this case |
| 09:00.57 | thewanderer1 | you could easily implement this using 1 machine and 2 NICs if you wanted to |
| 09:01.13 | thewanderer1 | (1 router instead of 2) |
| 09:01.52 | war9407 | k, will look into trying that, thx. |
| 09:02.26 | ulaek | Mornings! |
| 09:04.06 | Pinchiukas | Anyone wanna help me with this: http://pastebin.com/SXj9QJ9s ? |
| 09:07.34 | jelly-home | Pinchiukas: which debian release are you using? Make sure your root= parameter is correct |
| 09:08.08 | jelly-home | !tell Pinchiukas about debug initramfs |
| 09:08.47 | thewanderer1 | hasn't it been the same issue for 3 days already? |
| 09:10.49 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@31.47.40.207) |
| 09:11.18 | *** join/#debian Fernand (~Fernand@ppp-27-13.26-151.libero.it) |
| 09:12.07 | *** join/#debian anaschema (~anaschema@gateway/tor-sasl/kirvax) |
| 09:12.45 | *** join/#debian fedisto (~fedisto@ARennes-252-1-99-210.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:13.05 | *** join/#debian mkunze (~mk@port-92-205-16-48.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 09:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1056] by debhelper |
| 09:14.27 | *** join/#debian hartzie (~hartzie@77-22-118-184-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 09:14.40 | *** join/#debian niman (~niman@2.145.240.166) |
| 09:18.09 | *** part/#debian BordeyBluenge (~bordeyblu@46.4.164.4) |
| 09:18.24 | *** join/#debian Znoom (~lev@188.93.56.59) |
| 09:21.00 | *** join/#debian znoom (~lev@188.93.56.59) |
| 09:21.41 | *** join/#debian jeremym (~jsmartin@173-28-54-165.client.mchsi.com) |
| 09:28.44 | *** join/#debian cysioland (~cysioland@93-181-153-250.internetia.net.pl) |
| 09:28.50 | *** join/#debian cysioland (~cysioland@Wikimedia/Cysioland) |
| 09:29.33 | cysioland | How to join 2 AVI movies together? I want to join 2 movies (CD1 and CD2) to 1 movie, CD1 must be before CD2 |
| 09:29.49 | *** part/#debian znoom (~lev@188.93.56.59) |
| 09:29.57 | PerfDave | cysioland: Without re-encoding? |
| 09:30.19 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@40-26-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 09:30.36 | *** join/#debian xtrembull (~quassel@2001:250:4000:8148:226:22ff:fee0:1f0a) |
| 09:30.39 | cysioland | PerfDave: Would be nice, if without, because re-enc cuts quality |
| 09:31.06 | *** join/#debian niman (~niman@2.145.208.198) |
| 09:32.07 | PerfDave | cysioland: Hmm, can't think of anything off the top of my head, but there's video editing software like kdenlive, pitivi, etc. which might do what you want. |
| 09:32.12 | llutz | cysioland: cat foo1.avi foo2.avi > bar.avi && mencoder -forceidx -oac copy -ovc copy bar.avi -o longfoo.avi |
| 09:32.22 | PerfDave | I'm looking for a way to extract a chunk of h.264 video without re-encoding |
| 09:33.12 | *** join/#debian Fernand (~Fernand@ppp-27-13.26-151.libero.it) |
| 09:33.39 | *** join/#debian fredy (~tobias_@ppp046177105160.dsl.hol.gr) |
| 09:34.33 | *** join/#debian cysioland (~cysioland@93-181-153-250.internetia.net.pl) |
| 09:37.06 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 09:37.14 | *** join/#debian Daniel0108 (~Daniel010@unaffiliated/daniel0108) |
| 09:38.12 | *** join/#debian qrq (~root@bsq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:38.46 | *** join/#debian r3r3 (~r3r3@178-83-191-194.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 09:38.49 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@40-26-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 09:38.59 | *** join/#debian DURgod (~DURgod@2001:470:1f11:e4d:a1c8:b5a7:c38d:1b4f) |
| 09:39.35 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 09:40.44 | *** join/#debian Chat6544 (pqsnab@app9.chatmosphere.org) |
| 09:42.53 | *** join/#debian qrq (~root@bsq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:43.57 | *** part/#debian qrq (~root@bsq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:43.58 | *** join/#debian qrq (~root@bsq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:45.30 | *** join/#debian kruk1 (~root@bsq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:48.41 | *** join/#debian Alfabet (~jiroman@108.102.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 09:49.10 | *** join/#debian Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@184.91.132.0) |
| 09:49.22 | *** join/#debian stepdown (~stepdown_@93-97-50-23.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 09:49.34 | PerfDave | I'm using Squirrelmail and Cyrus IMAPD on Debian Lenny; some of the folders are missing or out of sequence in the folder list frame. Any idea what's wrong? |
| 09:51.48 | *** part/#debian kruk1 (~root@bsq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:52.06 | *** join/#debian nicoulaj (~nicoulaj@pas38-5-82-244-59-208.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:52.46 | wols_ | are they all under inbox? |
| 09:53.34 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs109108016252.pp.htv.fi) |
| 09:54.00 | *** join/#debian danrl (~danrl@natter.nonattached.net) |
| 09:54.14 | PerfDave | wols_: No |
| 09:54.27 | *** join/#debian alshain (~alshain@65-51.60-188.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 09:54.41 | PerfDave | It's like I'll have foo/ foo/bar foo/baz foo/quux visible with cyradm, but squirrelmail will show me bar bar/baz bar/quux |
| 09:55.08 | PerfDave | So it's getting the folder seperation right, but skipping stuff and rejigging it |
| 09:55.35 | wols_ | is squirrel the only client which acts like this? |
| 09:56.05 | alshain | Hi, I have an issue with my crontab: I want my daily jobs to run at 8pm, however, they always run at 8 am for some reasons, no matter what time I set. This is the relevant crontab line: http://pastebin.com/X6mwQ0je Why wouldn't crontab respect the changes I make to that file? |
| 09:56.32 | *** join/#debian stoffell (~stoffel@d54C3B67B.access.telenet.be) |
| 09:56.37 | PerfDave | wols_: mutt and kmail show me what I see with cyradm. |
| 09:57.02 | *** join/#debian stoffellw (~stoffell@d5152D12C.static.telenet.be) |
| 09:57.30 | internat | alshain, restarted cron/anacron anytime recently? |
| 09:57.36 | alshain | internat: yes, I have |
| 09:57.48 | *** join/#debian korky2 (~androirc@p5DCCB5B8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:57.49 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-8-118.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 09:57.56 | PerfDave | alshain: Are you sure somethign *else* sin't running them at 8am, and you've got two crontab entries? |
| 09:58.32 | alshain | PerfDave: yes, there is only this line for cron.daily, I'm sure of that |
| 09:58.42 | PerfDave | alshain: What about other crontab files? |
| 09:59.13 | alshain | I haven't tried the others |
| 09:59.24 | jaan0 | and your clock isn't 12 h wrong? |
| 09:59.31 | *** join/#debian yk (~yk@unaffiliated/yk) |
| 09:59.46 | alshain | No, it's not, I have verified this |
| 09:59.56 | *** join/#debian cygnus0113 (~janik@xdsl-83-150-84-65.nebulazone.fi) |
| 09:59.59 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 10:00.14 | internat | just to clarify, your 8pm crontabs are running at 8am. does anything happen at 8pm? |
| 10:00.18 | PerfDave | alshain: What timezone are you in? :) |
| 10:00.24 | alshain | CEST |
| 10:00.28 | internat | can you pb the output of ps aux | grep -i cron |
| 10:00.40 | alshain | internat: well, they seem to be running at 8am no matter what hour I set |
| 10:00.48 | alshain | internat: sure |
| 10:01.45 | alshain | http://pastebin.com/f8SJgm1d |
| 10:01.48 | *** join/#debian qrq (~eri@bsq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 10:02.17 | *** join/#debian Myztik (~Myztik@85-232.anonymous.at.anonine.com) |
| 10:02.41 | qrq | Debian 5.0.8 have wireless support out of the box? |
| 10:02.52 | qrq | Like 6.0.8 |
| 10:02.53 | internat | say what now.. your daily cron kicked off at 7.35? |
| 10:03.10 | alshain | it seems like that, yes |
| 10:03.18 | PerfDave | qrq: Yes |
| 10:03.24 | PerfDave | qrq: But why would you run an old version? |
| 10:03.25 | alshain | I also log the output of "date" in the backup_* jobs |
| 10:03.32 | alshain | let me see what it says... |
| 10:04.23 | alshain | Sun Sep 25 07:55:20 CEST 2011 |
| 10:04.55 | alshain | it's still running because it's backing up to a remote server |
| 10:05.02 | qrq | PerfDave Well some application I use doesnt suppor kernel from 6 |
| 10:05.05 | internat | whats can you paste the output of /etc/timezone, and /etc/localtime |
| 10:05.23 | qrq | I mean it have seg fault with that kernel |
| 10:05.24 | alshain | ok |
| 10:05.28 | PerfDave | qrq: Really? What application? |
| 10:05.40 | qrq | http://psxemulator.gazaxian.com/ |
| 10:05.48 | PerfDave | Wouldn't have thought that 2.6.27 vs 2.6.32 would make that much difference. |
| 10:05.54 | alshain | root@nas: /root â······································ â¡ cat /etc/timezone â······································ |
| 10:06.00 | alshain | sorry :S |
| 10:06.32 | qrq | And I don't know if it work with 2.6.27 :) |
| 10:06.37 | qrq | I mean I'm not sure if its kernel issue |
| 10:06.53 | qrq | But it doesnt work with new Ubuntu as well |
| 10:07.06 | qrq | Anyone got 5.0.8 Debian? |
| 10:07.11 | alshain | /etc/localtime ? That contains gibberish |
| 10:07.21 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 10:07.22 | internat | the last part of it should have your timezone in it.. |
| 10:07.35 | alshain | well, /etc/timezone says: Europe/Zurich |
| 10:07.44 | *** join/#debian spal (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 10:07.46 | internat | mine had giberish then EST-10 |
| 10:08.12 | PerfDave | qrq: So you're just assuming that the segfault is because of the kernel version, rather than any actual documentation on what kernels this app will run on? |
| 10:08.18 | PerfDave | qrq: I'd assume something else ;) |
| 10:08.28 | *** join/#debian isaac1024 (~isaac1024@95.60.222.77) |
| 10:08.32 | *** join/#debian bernhard2 (~bernhard2@dhcp-095-096-200-067.chello.nl) |
| 10:08.37 | alshain | internat: CET-1CEST,M3.5.0,M10.5.0/3 |
| 10:08.54 | qrq | PerfDave It could be alsa thing |
| 10:09.18 | PerfDave | qrq: It could be a lot of things, based on "it segfaults" - I'd try to work out why it's segfaulting ;) |
| 10:09.44 | internat | is europe/Zurich right? |
| 10:09.48 | alshain | yes |
| 10:10.25 | qrq | PerfDave I looked all th forums etc . It havent been solved |
| 10:10.37 | PerfDave | qrq: So solve it youtrelf :) |
| 10:10.50 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@ppp-101-87.31-151.libero.it) |
| 10:11.26 | internat | oh |
| 10:11.28 | *** part/#debian jaytaph (~jaytaph@dhcp-077-249-050-185.chello.nl) |
| 10:11.35 | internat | can you see whats in /etc/anacron |
| 10:11.39 | internat | can you see whats in /etc/anacrontab* |
| 10:11.41 | qrq | PerfDave Im not experienced |
| 10:12.04 | *** join/#debian testi (~quassel@84-72-125-244.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 10:12.09 | PerfDave | qrq: Well, you could start off by seeing what the actual error is ;) |
| 10:12.41 | alshain | internat: hmm, interesting, 7 something in the morning |
| 10:12.49 | alshain | internat: I suppose I have found the culprit, thanks |
| 10:12.49 | *** join/#debian ajaykools (~ajay@117.192.210.107) |
| 10:12.51 | qrq | PerfDave It require to look into sourcecode |
| 10:12.57 | PerfDave | qrq: No |
| 10:13.00 | internat | yeah ive not heard of that file, but just found mine |
| 10:13.09 | alshain | http://flukylogs.blogspot.com/2010/02/cron-scripts-executing-at-wrong-time.html |
| 10:13.11 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 10:13.12 | internat | i think it needs some more research. cause i would have thought the same as you |
| 10:13.25 | alshain | I just found that... The problem lies in first part of the command i.e. test -x /usr/sbin/anacron. The test command checks that whether the file /usr/sbin/anacron exists (& is executable), and if it exists then do not execute the next part (where actually scripts are being called). |
| 10:13.58 | internat | oh that makes sense then |
| 10:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1063] by debhelper |
| 10:18.06 | *** join/#debian M0ffe (~moffe@smaug.amagerkollegiet.dk) |
| 10:18.20 | *** join/#debian crs (~crs@gentoo/user/crs) |
| 10:18.25 | *** join/#debian in2tactics (~mint@user-69-73-33-15.knology.net) |
| 10:18.40 | alshain | so... since this machine is running 24/7 basically, I'd probably best uninstall anacron? |
| 10:19.20 | crs | Hi, how can I get python support in vim without compiling it myself? Is there a deb package prepared somewhere by any chances? |
| 10:19.49 | PerfDave | alshain: It should read test && ( stuff ), not test || ( stuff ) |
| 10:19.55 | PerfDave | Oh wait no |
| 10:19.57 | PerfDave | Ignore moe |
| 10:19.57 | PerfDave | me |
| 10:20.11 | alshain | :) |
| 10:20.31 | alshain | crs: vim-nox perhaps? |
| 10:20.32 | PerfDave | I thought installing anacron removed cron |
| 10:20.42 | PerfDave | But it looks like it just disables it |
| 10:20.49 | PerfDave | Anacron should read your /etc/cron.daily though |
| 10:20.50 | *** part/#debian in2tactics (~mint@user-69-73-33-15.knology.net) |
| 10:21.21 | alshain | yes, it does... but the config file format doesn't make too much sense to me, to be honest |
| 10:21.24 | *** join/#debian two_eight (~dmitry@178.122.69.167) |
| 10:21.31 | *** join/#debian poisonbit (~poisonbit@83.173.180.250.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 10:21.54 | alshain | it looks like /etc/crontab gives more fine-grained control |
| 10:22.26 | *** join/#debian claf (~claf@78.222.14.132) |
| 10:23.48 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 10:24.43 | PerfDave | Hmm, given that anacron was written because cron wasn't fine-grained enough, I doubt that's correct, but whatever ;) |
| 10:25.01 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@router-vinice.pilsfree.net) |
| 10:25.14 | *** join/#debian qrq (~eri@bsq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 10:25.15 | alshain | really? from the looks of it, anacron can only schedule job on a daily basis or larger time spans |
| 10:25.24 | qrq | Anyone got 5.0.8 Debian? |
| 10:25.35 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 10:26.01 | *** join/#debian chattr (~mike@155.164.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 10:26.22 | alshain | s/job/jobs |
| 10:26.33 | *** join/#debian Speed` (~Curry@5acb7e73.bb.sky.com) |
| 10:27.52 | *** join/#debian FlowChart1 (~Miranda@dialin-hb-80-228-60-048.ewetel.net) |
| 10:28.07 | valdyn | PerfDave: i didnt know anacron was about fine-grained anything |
| 10:28.53 | valdyn | alshain: anacron should be like cron unless your system is down during a cron job |
| 10:29.41 | alshain | valdyn: but it doesn't allow me to run commands at a specific time, does it? |
| 10:29.51 | valdyn | alshain: use the crontab |
| 10:30.01 | alshain | the way I see it, anacron only has disadvantages for a 24/7 machine |
| 10:30.02 | valdyn | alshain: not the anacrontab |
| 10:30.41 | alshain | valdyn: I see, thanks |
| 10:31.59 | *** join/#debian Moritz__ (~mk@port-92-205-16-48.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 10:32.31 | *** join/#debian Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@unaffiliated/ex-opesa) |
| 10:34.12 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 10:34.57 | *** join/#debian Malmis (malmis@c-2e8172d5.014-208-73746f25.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:34.58 | ompaul | alshain: consider the case where you do jobs every few hours, you power down the machine just before it does such a job, you may want it done on restart |
| 10:35.47 | valdyn | alshain: Im not sure about the whole picture, as far as i can see anacron being installed makes jobs "forgotten" because you system was down run after bootup, but since cron still runs after your system is up, cron will still trigger its jobs as usual, just that they will be triggered *via* anacron so anacron remembers them |
| 10:37.05 | alshain | valdyn: well, cron will check whether anacron is installed, and if it is, the jobs won't be executed - have a look here: http://flukylogs.blogspot.com/2010/02/cron-scripts-executing-at-wrong-time.html |
| 10:37.23 | alshain | valdyn: it's the default setup for cron, it seems |
| 10:38.20 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B285F13.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:40.25 | valdyn | alshain: I see |
| 10:42.02 | *** join/#debian ShKoDrAnI (~ardit@unaffiliated/shkodrani) |
| 10:46.08 | *** join/#debian janmejay (~janmejay@59.164.99.4) |
| 10:47.50 | *** join/#debian xaitax (~xaitax@pdpc/supporter/student/xaitax) |
| 10:48.48 | qrq | Anyone got 5.08 Debian? |
| 10:49.24 | ompaul | !lenny |
| 10:49.24 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for the current <oldstable> release, Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on 2009-02-15 and superseded by Squeeze as of 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 . Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>, <lenny release notes>, <install lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.8>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
| 10:49.33 | qrq | Sorry :) |
| 10:49.36 | *** join/#debian BlueG (~blue@c-68-60-20-112.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 10:50.03 | qrq | So anyone got lenny? |
| 10:50.06 | ompaul | really I should have hit you with !anyone |
| 10:50.11 | ompaul | get it yourself |
| 10:50.21 | ompaul | or ask your real question |
| 10:50.36 | PerfDave | qrq: You are asking the wrong question. You want to install an old version of Debian because you have some random binary that's segfaulting. That's illogical. |
| 10:50.56 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 10:51.06 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~david@212.122.111.205.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 10:51.43 | qrq | PerfDave Im full of it :) |
| 10:55.08 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@unaffiliated/black-prince/x-4865215) |
| 10:55.32 | *** join/#debian pLk (~mail@xdsl-92-252-70-27.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 10:57.50 | *** join/#debian AsuraLe (~ashurta@118.114.190.133) |
| 10:59.10 | *** join/#debian newyork (~newyork@p3E991AB2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:00.22 | *** join/#debian Iridos (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 11:00.26 | *** join/#debian arcsky (~arcsky@2001:470:1f08:1b3b::2) |
| 11:00.30 | *** join/#debian Fanda (~chatzilla@93.99.117.16) |
| 11:02.15 | *** join/#debian twanny796 (~twanny@46.11.89.80) |
| 11:03.21 | Fanda | Hello, |
| 11:03.23 | Fanda | I am trying to set up firewall on debian on VPS, but have some problems. So I want to log packets, but ... -j LOG is not working (iptables: No chain/target/match by that name. |
| 11:03.24 | Fanda | ). Don't you know why? |
| 11:03.46 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 11:04.00 | Fanda | It is on debian 6 |
| 11:05.06 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 11:05.09 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 11:05.21 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.50.28.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 11:05.41 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:07.35 | *** join/#debian lissyx (~alex@2a01:240:fe3c:3:221:6bff:fe12:74cc) |
| 11:07.53 | petemc | Fanda: lsmod | grep -i log |
| 11:07.59 | lissyx | hello |
| 11:08.00 | Mmike | Fanda, what is your iptables line? |
| 11:08.03 | petemc | you're looking ipt_LOG |
| 11:08.36 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 11:08.38 | lissyx | is this chan the right place to ask for help on packaging ? |
| 11:08.40 | *** join/#debian chaisen1 (~chaisen@p4FD48BAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:09.29 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 11:09.48 | petemc | lissyx: it could be, theres also #debian-mentors, which might be on oftc |
| 11:10.23 | lissyx | hm I think mentors whould be more appropriate regarding my questions, I'll go there |
| 11:10.24 | lissyx | thanks |
| 11:10.27 | *** join/#debian cysioland (~cysioland@93-181-153-250.internetia.net.pl) |
| 11:10.28 | Fanda | My rules are these: http://pastie.org/2588564. I know, some can be removed, it is under developing. :-) With these, I canť nor ping from localhost. :-/ |
| 11:11.46 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudi@78.29.167.223) |
| 11:12.04 | *** join/#debian ShKoDrAnI (~ardit@95.107.226.62) |
| 11:12.05 | *** join/#debian ShKoDrAnI (~ardit@unaffiliated/shkodrani) |
| 11:13.28 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFD022.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1071] by debhelper |
| 11:14.06 | *** join/#debian zuse_ (~zuse@HSI-KBW-046-005-198-011.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 11:17.25 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.215.82.210) |
| 11:18.50 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 11:21.11 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.249.86.222) |
| 11:22.47 | *** join/#debian EyesIsMine (~Eyes@unaffiliated/eyesismine) |
| 11:23.05 | PerfDave | emails the Squirrelmail users list to try to fix his problem |
| 11:25.22 | *** join/#debian mkunze (~mk@port-92-205-6-78.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 11:25.43 | *** join/#debian claf (~claf@78.222.14.132) |
| 11:25.50 | *** join/#debian Quibus (~manuel@s5597ee44.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 11:25.53 | Quibus | hi all |
| 11:26.37 | Quibus | When I do an apt-get update, I see http://dl.google.com in the list of servers, but that server does not appear in /etc/apt/sources.list ... how is that possible, I wonder? |
| 11:27.49 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 11:27.50 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 11:27.53 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 11:27.57 | Mmike | Quibus, check /etc/apt/souces.d |
| 11:28.01 | PerfDave | Quibus: One of the host names in sources.list redirects to dl.google.com? Something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? |
| 11:28.14 | Mmike | erm, sources.list.d |
| 11:28.21 | Mmike | darn! /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 11:28.32 | Mmike | or, what PerfDave said |
| 11:28.42 | Quibus | aha, there is where apps can add themselves or something? |
| 11:28.53 | Quibus | Indeed, the Google talkplugin installed an entry there |
| 11:28.55 | Quibus | thanks |
| 11:29.23 | Quibus | I was kind of forced to install that non-free stuff, because nothing else worked :S |
| 11:29.27 | PerfDave | Quibus: How did you install Google Talk? |
| 11:29.34 | PerfDave | has managed to avoid installing non-free stuff ;) |
| 11:29.36 | Quibus | I installed Google's .deb |
| 11:29.54 | Quibus | I did my best to avoid it, but I couldn't get around it... |
| 11:30.03 | Quibus | Pidgin and Telepathy failed |
| 11:30.08 | ajikeshi_ | PerfDave, noveau? |
| 11:30.15 | *** join/#debian krushik|afk (~mayday@178.162.120.195) |
| 11:30.27 | PerfDave | Quibus: Failed at what? |
| 11:30.36 | PerfDave | wouldn't trust Google to add its own repos to my system :) |
| 11:30.39 | Quibus | at establishing video chat connections over Google's network |
| 11:30.54 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 11:30.56 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 11:31.02 | Quibus | I'll keep an eye on where things are coming from |
| 11:31.05 | PerfDave | Oh, fuck knows. |
| 11:31.23 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 11:31.24 | PerfDave | I use Ekiga with SIP/H.323 for video chat |
| 11:32.40 | Quibus | over which network? |
| 11:33.51 | PerfDave | The Internet |
| 11:34.33 | Mmike | Quibus, how is google-talk working for you? |
| 11:34.43 | Mmike | I am forced to use Skype, because all of my clients use that |
| 11:34.55 | Mmike | PerfDave, and, Ekiga works ok? |
| 11:35.06 | PerfDave | Mmike: Works for me |
| 11:35.22 | Quibus | Mmike: it works absolutely great, actually |
| 11:35.30 | Quibus | Skype fails miserably for me |
| 11:35.35 | Quibus | audio nor video work |
| 11:35.45 | Quibus | (Audio used to work a few year ago on my 32 bit system) |
| 11:36.01 | Mmike | Skype works ok for me, I just don't like it. It's old, it's proprietary, it's closed. |
| 11:36.06 | Quibus | I am forced to use some network my n00b parents can handle |
| 11:36.19 | Mmike | hm, maybe it's time to give ekiga another try |
| 11:37.43 | *** join/#debian lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) |
| 11:38.05 | *** join/#debian rdponticelli (~quassel@200-081-038-140.wireless.movistar.net.ar) |
| 11:38.39 | *** join/#debian Moritz__ (~mk@port-92-205-151-68.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 11:38.51 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD48BAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:39.32 | *** join/#debian wooden (~anon@user-1087hp5.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 11:39.32 | *** join/#debian wooden (~anon@pdpc/supporter/active/wooden) |
| 11:39.37 | *** join/#debian seb82 (~seb82@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 11:40.31 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B285F13.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:40.57 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@xdsl-78-34-194-156.netcologne.de) |
| 11:41.07 | seb82 | hey guys... got an issue with my soundcard... yesterday no problems or whatsoever... and today my mixer icon doesn't appear next to the clock... playiing movie or sound results in no sound.... it's not muted... alsactl init recognizes the card... manually starting mixer states the soundcard... alsamixer likewise... |
| 11:42.05 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 11:42.54 | *** join/#debian spal (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 11:47.29 | *** join/#debian f0e (~f0e@91.98.137.151) |
| 11:47.56 | f0e | how can i set hostname by dhclient ! |
| 11:47.58 | f0e | ? |
| 11:48.19 | *** join/#debian jonmasters (~jcm@edison.jonmasters.org) |
| 11:48.33 | *** join/#debian itchi (~David@unaffiliated/itchi) |
| 11:51.23 | *** join/#debian sunfun (~sunfun@2-226-13-101.ip178.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:51.37 | seb82 | f0e due to a bug in Debian it is currently not possible |
| 11:52.03 | PerfDave | seb82: Which bug? Link to BTS? |
| 11:52.28 | seb82 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508804 |
| 11:52.58 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@ppp-165-41.31-151.libero.it) |
| 11:53.34 | *** join/#debian bn` (~Amunet@95-89-210-233-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 11:53.43 | *** join/#debian bn` (~Amunet@unaffiliated/bn/x-6686386) |
| 11:54.20 | PerfDave | seb82: Cheers |
| 11:54.20 | *** join/#debian larsivi (~quassel@188.113.74.106) |
| 11:54.25 | seb82 | np |
| 11:55.04 | *** join/#debian M0ffe (~moffe@smaug.amagerkollegiet.dk) |
| 11:55.22 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudi@78.29.167.223) |
| 11:57.08 | *** join/#debian Fanda (~chatzilla@93.99.117.16) |
| 11:57.44 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 11:57.48 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 12:00.11 | ulaek | m!!! jeg svkkeskl jeg mpve NI |
| 12:00.15 | ulaek | Nhw |
| 12:00.18 | *** join/#debian CodeKipod (codekipod@217.146.87.9) |
| 12:00.40 | *** join/#debian MIOW (~miow@nat223-248-205-109.tvoe.tv) |
| 12:01.55 | *** join/#debian niman (~niman@2.146.212.4) |
| 12:03.22 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:03.36 | seb82 | ulaek, din snakker vrøvl |
| 12:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1077] by debhelper |
| 12:04.25 | *** join/#debian Python1320 (~python132@plutonium.iriz.org) |
| 12:04.25 | *** join/#debian Python1320 (~python132@unaffiliated/python1320) |
| 12:04.38 | centrino | i just tried to install debian squezze from within win xp with the help of win32-loader. this failed with the following error (i'll have to type it): |
| 12:05.13 | seb82 | use #flood or past.debian.org centrino |
| 12:05.24 | ompaul | paste.debian.net that is |
| 12:05.42 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 12:05.43 | ompaul | nobody hangs out in #flood anymore ;-) the logs would kill em |
| 12:05.50 | ulaek | Who' De82?BBE 68 |
| 12:05.57 | centrino | ok |
| 12:06.11 | ulaek | Ohvor fejledej eg |
| 12:06.18 | ulaek | Eu den platan der ksajgd |
| 12:06.22 | ulaek | Og tå |
| 12:06.30 | seb82 | uleak if you have an issue with your keyboard state me a 82... |
| 12:06.41 | babilen | ulaek: It would be much preferred if you would speak English in here |
| 12:06.45 | *** join/#debian wrksx (~wrksx@abo-11-3-68.eur.modulonet.fr) |
| 12:06.51 | wrksx | hi there. |
| 12:06.54 | ulaek | Sp an kdet wsmare rejjgtikel, at siu uave oæ gt get kjo eth h |
| 12:07.09 | wrksx | I'm trying to make use of the new mysqlnd php drivers |
| 12:07.20 | seb82 | babilen: I think the guy has some issue with his keyboard... |
| 12:07.26 | babilen | ah :) |
| 12:07.27 | wrksx | anyone here could help me figureout how to do this ? |
| 12:07.37 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 12:07.42 | wrksx | i fail to understand how to enable it |
| 12:07.56 | centrino | hereis the error message: http://paste.debian.net/132160/ |
| 12:08.00 | seb82 | babilen: besides that he's also writing gibberish |
| 12:08.06 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 12:08.08 | seb82 | thx centrino |
| 12:08.13 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:08.55 | seb82 | centrino: basically it can't run your wireless card |
| 12:09.16 | babilen | wrksx: What is "it" exactly? I am also not fond of PHP and MySQL and probably can not help you, but we need more details regardless of that |
| 12:09.21 | centrino | ok, i supposed it was the ethernet adapter |
| 12:09.38 | centrino | ahh, ok, ipw is wireless |
| 12:09.52 | centrino | but why does it stop then? |
| 12:10.01 | *** part/#debian calf (~claf@78.222.14.132) |
| 12:10.03 | *** join/#debian smhar (~salman@46.184.195.172) |
| 12:10.04 | seb82 | it's Intel Pro/Wireless 2100 Driver for linux... because it fails to load it... |
| 12:10.11 | seb82 | apparently it's depended on it... |
| 12:10.23 | wrksx | babilen, mysqlnd "is a native replacement for libmysql" |
| 12:10.35 | centrino | the whole procedure stops after these messages. i get a black screen. that's it. |
| 12:10.49 | seb82 | probably because the firmware is missing... |
| 12:10.54 | centrino | ok, if the procedure depends on that piece of fw |
| 12:11.04 | wrksx | but the ony thing I did to install php mysql lib is 'sudo aptitude install php5-mysql' |
| 12:11.07 | centrino | i could download it somewhere and provide it |
| 12:11.32 | centrino | butwhere does the win32-loader save its files? |
| 12:12.07 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@133.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 12:12.18 | *** join/#debian Draecos (~Draecos@124.148.203.130) |
| 12:12.48 | *** join/#debian buribu (~buribu@unaffiliated/buribu) |
| 12:12.48 | seb82 | are you on a laptop? |
| 12:12.49 | *** join/#debian buribux (~buribu@177.18.204.133) |
| 12:12.49 | *** join/#debian buribux (~buribu@unaffiliated/buribux) |
| 12:13.02 | centrino | okit is obviously c:\win32-loader |
| 12:13.08 | centrino | yes on a laptop |
| 12:13.25 | centrino | i am connected to an ethernet cable |
| 12:13.39 | lamah | wheezy |
| 12:13.51 | *** part/#debian f0e (~f0e@91.98.137.151) |
| 12:13.57 | *** join/#debian sdx23 (~sdx23@unaffiliated/sdx23) |
| 12:14.19 | centrino | could i possibly just throw in the firmware there? |
| 12:14.40 | seb82 | have you got a wireless card? |
| 12:14.50 | centrino | yes |
| 12:14.56 | centrino | do you need details? |
| 12:14.59 | seb82 | is it switched on? |
| 12:15.11 | seb82 | No because win32-installer detects it, says enough :D |
| 12:15.21 | centrino | no it is not |
| 12:15.39 | seb82 | turn it on... and try install again... |
| 12:15.59 | centrino | ok. i'll come back here, if that fails. thanx so far |
| 12:16.07 | *** join/#debian Astroman (~Astroman@78-86-137-77.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 12:16.34 | *** part/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:16.56 | seb82 | n[ |
| 12:16.58 | seb82 | np |
| 12:17.30 | *** join/#debian FlowChart (~foobar@static.88-198-182-241.clients.your-server.de) |
| 12:19.23 | seb82 | lets hope that helps for centrino |
| 12:20.58 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.50.28.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 12:23.04 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:23.56 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 12:24.18 | *** join/#debian rage8 (~rage@AAmiens-157-1-75-34.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:24.19 | centrino | ok, here i am again. thing went as follows: i switched on the wifi device. but during reboot it was automatically switched off and i could not reactivate it on boot-up of the linux installation. |
| 12:25.35 | PerfDave | centrino: What is win32-loader? |
| 12:25.43 | centrino | also there might be another reason for the installation to fail |
| 12:25.51 | centrino | i used win32-loader |
| 12:25.56 | centrino | ok |
| 12:25.56 | *** join/#debian dgm_077 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-16-30.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 12:26.07 | centrino | it is like wubi for ubuntu |
| 12:26.22 | centrino | a programm with which you can install debian from withing windows |
| 12:26.44 | centrino | i am using it because the laptop i am on has a broken cd drive and cannot boot from usb |
| 12:26.56 | ompaul | how old is that laptop? |
| 12:27.00 | *** join/#debian liable_ (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 12:27.12 | centrino | i don't know, looks like early 2000s |
| 12:27.29 | ompaul | what's the model |
| 12:28.27 | centrino | Medion somewhat. a cheap piee of crap. |
| 12:28.29 | seb82 | and type? |
| 12:28.37 | *** join/#debian mooperd (~andrew@e180168104.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:28.52 | mooperd | allo. I want to patch dhcp. I've downloaded the source but am wondering where I should be placing my .patch file. In includes? |
| 12:28.53 | centrino | i don't relly know where to find the info on windows... |
| 12:28.57 | seb82 | Medion doesn't necessarily have to be crap... |
| 12:29.13 | centrino | but this one obviously is. :) |
| 12:29.24 | ompaul | centrino: no it isn't until you tell us what it is |
| 12:29.24 | centrino | i am not saying it generally is. |
| 12:29.28 | wrksx | i believe I found out debian's php version comes withoup mysqlnd suport |
| 12:29.30 | wrksx | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576412 |
| 12:29.37 | centrino | i'm trying. |
| 12:29.44 | ompaul | look underneath |
| 12:29.46 | wrksx | how can I confirm that ? |
| 12:29.56 | seb82 | perhaps make a photo and put it online somewhere... |
| 12:30.16 | centrino | i'm searching for the model number. |
| 12:30.41 | centrino | it is an Medion MD41100 |
| 12:31.14 | *** join/#debian FlowChart (~foobar@static.88-198-182-241.clients.your-server.de) |
| 12:31.47 | seb82 | where did you buy it? |
| 12:31.55 | centrino | it not mine |
| 12:32.44 | seb82 | ah I see... |
| 12:32.59 | *** join/#debian nutterpc (~nutterpc@1.148.210.46) |
| 12:32.59 | seb82 | why are you installing Debian this way and not via bootcd/bootdvd? |
| 12:33.17 | centrino | ok, here's a picture: http://www.zimmer-online.com/bilder/laptop.jpg |
| 12:33.24 | *** join/#debian me-1 (~Asif@116.71.164.27) |
| 12:33.36 | centrino | i am installing debian that way, because it has a broken cd drive and does not seem to be able to bot from usb |
| 12:33.42 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.149.132) |
| 12:33.48 | me-1 | hi..how can i know what can i find in back-ports..? |
| 12:33.49 | seb82 | owkay... |
| 12:33.59 | seb82 | let's see... |
| 12:34.11 | centrino | me-1: backports.debian.org |
| 12:34.41 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-164-12.netcologne.de) |
| 12:34.46 | *** join/#debian waynerr__ (~waynerr@pD9505CB9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:35.07 | ompaul | centrino: in the bios can you tell it to boot from usb if so then try all the usb ports for your stick |
| 12:35.10 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@117.192.197.200) |
| 12:35.10 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 12:35.27 | centrino | i can only tell it to boot from removable devices. |
| 12:35.30 | centrino | i did that. |
| 12:35.58 | centrino | i have a usbstick that has the mini.iso for i386 written on it (cat... sync) |
| 12:36.04 | *** join/#debian Genji (~Genji@112.202.50.119) |
| 12:36.13 | centrino | i tried all usb ports. |
| 12:36.22 | seb82 | centrino have you tried using netinstall.iso? |
| 12:36.23 | PerfDave | centrino: Why can't you just install Debian without wifi, get it working and then set up wifi afterwards? |
| 12:36.28 | centrino | i always got: "Operating system not found." |
| 12:36.52 | seb82 | centrino: you are running windows xp now huh? |
| 12:36.59 | centrino | Perf: i do not need wifi at all. i am connected via an ethernet cable |
| 12:37.05 | centrino | win xp right |
| 12:37.32 | PerfDave | centrino: Sorry, I thought lack of wifi was your problem. |
| 12:37.34 | centrino | no i did not try netinstall iso, because it is more difficult to prepare the stick |
| 12:37.47 | centrino | but i might try that |
| 12:37.50 | seb82 | try downloading unetbooting from unetbooting.sourceforge.net |
| 12:37.55 | centrino | i was searching for a fast solution, actually. |
| 12:38.06 | centrino | ok |
| 12:38.12 | PerfDave | centrino: Sorry, what is your actual problem? |
| 12:38.41 | seb82 | PerfDave: he needs to install debian on the laptop... cd-drive is broken and so far his attemps on making a bootable usbkey has failed... |
| 12:38.56 | seb82 | PerfDave: therefor he was trying win32-loader/win32-installer... |
| 12:39.12 | PerfDave | But what's the problem with win32-loader? |
| 12:39.21 | seb82 | it flips on his wireless card... |
| 12:39.29 | centrino | not sure |
| 12:39.32 | centrino | about that |
| 12:39.35 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@187.114.151.169) |
| 12:39.35 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 12:39.41 | seb82 | centrino: I meant unetbootin.sourceforge.net |
| 12:39.50 | centrino | ok |
| 12:39.52 | seb82 | it's a common problem with that wirelesscard... |
| 12:40.01 | seb82 | Suse has issues with it too |
| 12:40.17 | centrino | ok |
| 12:40.34 | centrino | just reading about unetbootin... |
| 12:40.38 | seb82 | kk |
| 12:41.17 | trnzmeta | night all |
| 12:41.56 | *** join/#debian ShKoDrAnI_ (~ardit@cpe-95-107-197-198.wifi.tring.al) |
| 12:42.21 | centrino | ok, i will use unetbootin to create my installation medium? |
| 12:42.35 | seb82 | yuppers... |
| 12:42.51 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.50.28.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 12:43.17 | centrino | but it says it creates live usb drives. does that mean by simply supplying the netinst.iso it will not be a live system but install? |
| 12:43.43 | seb82 | if you use the iso option... it will be just like the iso says... and installation medium |
| 12:43.58 | wrksx | I got this installed in mysystem : |
| 12:43.58 | wrksx | i A libmysqlclient16 - Virtual package to satisfy external depends |
| 12:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1083] by debhelper |
| 12:44.19 | wrksx | did this package installed other packages ? how can Icheck ? |
| 12:44.24 | centrino | ok |
| 12:44.37 | centrino | i will try that. |
| 12:44.44 | seb82 | kk good luck |
| 12:44.59 | centrino | why is the netinstall.iso potentially working better than the mini.iso? |
| 12:44.59 | lissyx | hello |
| 12:45.03 | PerfDave | wrksx: apt-cache depends libmysqlclient16 |
| 12:45.06 | lissyx | I need some help on packaging |
| 12:45.13 | wrksx | PerfDave, thanks ! |
| 12:45.19 | seb82 | it actually does the same but it has some extra stuff... |
| 12:45.23 | centrino | ok |
| 12:45.27 | seb82 | i think... |
| 12:45.31 | centrino | wireless, for example.... |
| 12:45.36 | centrino | i'll just try |
| 12:45.47 | lissyx | My debian/ stuff lives in a git repos |
| 12:45.50 | seb82 | no I can't guarantee the wireless will work... |
| 12:45.57 | lissyx | but the software packages is not available under git |
| 12:46.03 | seb82 | PerfDave: wot's the diffrence between netinstall and mini? |
| 12:46.10 | wrksx | this package replaces libmysqlclient16 |
| 12:46.23 | lissyx | is it possible for uscan or any helper to retrieve the source and extract it correctly in the source package's directory ? |
| 12:46.26 | wrksx | if i remove it will libmysqlclient16 take the job back ? |
| 12:46.39 | lissyx | currently, uscan downloads the source correctly, and put it as .orig.tar.gz |
| 12:46.58 | lissyx | but I still have to extract it by hand, rename the directory, and copy my debian/ directory |
| 12:47.26 | wrksx | apt-cache depends libmysqlclient16 -> depend libmariadbclient16. Which one depends on the other ? I don't get it. |
| 12:48.16 | *** join/#debian niman (~niman@2.146.212.4) |
| 12:48.29 | *** join/#debian Astroman (~Astroman@78-86-137-77.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 12:48.34 | wrksx | the first depends on the second ? |
| 12:48.45 | *** join/#debian stepdown (~stepdown_@93-97-50-23.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 12:49.22 | PerfDave | seb82: No idea, I don't use either |
| 12:49.23 | ulaek | jEG LAR IKKE SOVE |
| 12:49.29 | ulaek | oG NU TIL MROS FÆSEKDS |
| 12:50.38 | seb82 | ulaek: Hva med vrøvl kompis. Det er ikke engang relatert til debian eller linux. |
| 12:51.01 | seb82 | kk thx anyway PerfDAve |
| 12:52.02 | wrksx | if a packageis marked as "i a" in aptitude output, can I remove it safely ? |
| 12:52.17 | wrksx | if I aptitude remove <packagename> ? |
| 12:53.25 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@120.59-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 12:53.25 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 12:53.57 | wrksx | is it possible to know wich packages depends on a given package? |
| 12:54.44 | PerfDave | wrksx: apt-cache rdepends <package> |
| 12:54.54 | wrksx | PerfDave, yourtheman=) |
| 12:55.18 | *** join/#debian huglester_ (~quassel@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 12:55.47 | lord_rob | Hi ! How can I count the lines of a text file ? Is there a command for that ? |
| 12:55.59 | seb82 | lord_rob use nano... |
| 12:56.04 | jelly-home | lord_rob: wc -l |
| 12:56.22 | lord_rob | ok thanks jelly-home |
| 12:56.28 | seb82 | jelly-home: I hope you know that wc is in loads of languages a lavetory... |
| 12:57.03 | ompaul | seb82: he's only looking at it to flush buffers |
| 12:57.03 | thewanderer1 | seb82: tell it to RMS... :P |
| 12:57.17 | jelly-home | seb82: please troll elsewhere. |
| 12:57.25 | *** join/#debian echo083 (~adam@92.179.113.78.rev.sfr.net) |
| 12:57.26 | ompaul | wrong channel |
| 12:57.28 | voltagex | how do I switch pulseaudio servers in Debian? The applet that some other distros have for chosing server is not available. |
| 12:57.40 | *** join/#debian CoilDomain (~jasonruiz@64.157.15.148) |
| 12:58.05 | thewanderer1 | hmmm, I think I managed to use a graphical tool to set that somehow |
| 12:58.21 | thewanderer1 | how, I couldn't tell - the machine got wiped :/ |
| 12:58.25 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@ppp121-45-233-205.lns20.per1.internode.on.net) |
| 12:58.25 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 12:58.47 | lord_rob | (I was wondering how many codelines I had written :) |
| 12:59.39 | thewanderer1 | lord_rob: alias wc="echo 'Still not enough...'" :-] |
| 12:59.57 | lord_rob | :p |
| 13:00.26 | lord_rob | quantity doesn't matter, it's quality 8-) |
| 13:02.52 | *** join/#debian Benkinooby (~Benkinoob@unaffiliated/benkinooby) |
| 13:03.00 | voltagex | padevchooser was removed........ |
| 13:03.51 | thewanderer1 | ,file padevchooser |
| 13:03.56 | judd | Search for padevchooser in squeeze/i386: padevchooser: usr/bin/padevchooser, usr/share/menu/padevchooser |
| 13:04.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1075] by debhelper |
| 13:04.04 | thewanderer1 | hmm, has it? |
| 13:04.30 | *** join/#debian thiagoss (~thiagoss@189.81.33.2) |
| 13:06.17 | voltagex | thewanderer1: it's been removed from testing and above |
| 13:06.36 | voltagex | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636151 |
| 13:06.56 | thewanderer1 | voltagex: use padevchooser, see what config it generates, replicate it onto testing machines? |
| 13:07.17 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 13:07.18 | voltagex | thewanderer1: am trying to get the code now |
| 13:07.40 | voltagex | thewanderer1: not a particularly user-friendly answer - I was simply trying to set up multi-room audio. But oh well. |
| 13:07.50 | thewanderer1 | voltagex: the report says "moved into pavucontrol and desktop platform specific configuration"... |
| 13:08.13 | *** join/#debian rosalinda (~girlss@85.108.16.56) |
| 13:08.28 | thewanderer1 | so if it's not in pavucontrol, surely it's found in some GNOME dialog windows (which Linus says are nazi...) |
| 13:08.43 | voltagex | thewanderer1: no, the functionality simply disappeared |
| 13:08.50 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-60.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 13:09.44 | voltagex | bleargh, gnome specific code. |
| 13:10.17 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@188.125.209.39) |
| 13:10.48 | *** join/#debian AlertEye (~ertyle@unaffiliated/ertyle) |
| 13:12.00 | *** join/#debian war9407 (war@c-71-62-63-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 13:13.06 | *** join/#debian gnz11 (~gnz11@66-233-25-152.war.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 13:13.18 | *** join/#debian f00li5h (~f00li5h@unaffiliated/f00li5h) |
| 13:13.24 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@pool133-73.cable.tolna.net) |
| 13:13.47 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@ppp-208-9.31-151.libero.it) |
| 13:14.10 | *** join/#debian spal (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 13:15.24 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~david@212.122.111.205.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 13:16.03 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 13:16.05 | *** part/#debian marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) |
| 13:16.05 | *** join/#debian marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) |
| 13:16.24 | *** join/#debian bernhard2 (~bernhard2@dhcp-095-096-200-067.chello.nl) |
| 13:16.26 | *** join/#debian aswer_ (~aswer@host195-254-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:16.57 | centrino | hi, back again. created bootable usb stick with unetbootin (stable_netinst). tried all usb ports. permant error: Operating system not found. |
| 13:17.15 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@201.78.27.97) |
| 13:17.15 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 13:17.24 | seb82 | did you choose the disk to boot from? |
| 13:17.29 | centrino | removable devices were set as first boot option. |
| 13:17.29 | seb82 | e.g. f8? |
| 13:17.33 | *** join/#debian LjL (~ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl) |
| 13:17.39 | centrino | all others deactivated |
| 13:17.44 | centrino | i did this in the bios |
| 13:18.09 | seb82 | kk |
| 13:18.34 | *** part/#debian aswer_ (~aswer@host195-254-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:18.35 | centrino | i think this is really about providing the firmware for the win32-loader. |
| 13:18.38 | centrino | that should work |
| 13:18.51 | centrino | i guess |
| 13:19.14 | seb82 | you could try |
| 13:19.37 | centrino | the question is how. |
| 13:19.48 | *** part/#debian mrmist (~mrmist@freenode/staff/pdpc.active.mrmist) |
| 13:19.49 | *** join/#debian mrmist (~mrmist@freenode/staff/pdpc.active.mrmist) |
| 13:20.01 | centrino | i could simply throw in the firmware into the win32-loader folder. |
| 13:20.10 | centrino | but will that be found during boot up? |
| 13:20.15 | *** join/#debian lesrar (~waynerr@pD9505004.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:20.41 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudi@78.29.167.223) |
| 13:20.57 | centrino | do you have any idea, where to get that firware? |
| 13:21.17 | centrino | it is ipw2100-1.3.fw |
| 13:22.26 | centrino | ok, i found a guide that may work. |
| 13:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1081] by debhelper |
| 13:26.35 | *** join/#debian dekar_ (~dekar@drms-590ec578.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 13:26.42 | *** mode/#debian [+o mrmist] by ChanServ |
| 13:26.42 | *** part/#debian rosalinda (~girlss@85.108.16.56) |
| 13:26.42 | *** mode/#debian [-o mrmist] by mrmist |
| 13:27.35 | *** part/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 13:28.42 | Pinchiukas | thewanderer1: yes it has. |
| 13:28.43 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@gateway/tor-sasl/semeion) |
| 13:29.16 | *** join/#debian philips (~philips@shell.ifup.org) |
| 13:30.55 | *** join/#debian sickgut (~chatzilla@123.2.220.23) |
| 13:31.05 | *** join/#debian jnix (~jnix@unaffiliated/jnix) |
| 13:31.50 | *** join/#debian Xanthor (~Xanthor@ip-80.net-81-220-134.standre.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:33.08 | *** join/#debian jargon- (~dayo@unaffiliated/jargon-) |
| 13:33.58 | bernhard2 | i run debian-daemon-light when i want to switch to debian-daemon-heavy would i first need to uninstall light? |
| 13:34.10 | PerfDave | bernhard2: Do you mean exim4-daemon-light? :) |
| 13:34.11 | *** join/#debian cygnus011 (~janik@xdsl-83-150-84-65.nebulazone.fi) |
| 13:34.39 | bernhard2 | yes |
| 13:34.57 | PerfDave | bernhard2: No, installing heavy will automatically remove light, because they conflict. |
| 13:35.18 | bernhard2 | <PerfDave> thanks |
| 13:37.29 | bernhard2 | <PerfDave> exim4 light config files would also be removed ? |
| 13:37.36 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@220-253-6-250.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 13:37.36 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@unaffiliated/neerolyte) |
| 13:38.02 | PerfDave | bernhard2: Can't remember the details, but upgrading from light to heavy was pretty smooth for mel. |
| 13:38.06 | PerfDave | for me, even |
| 13:38.19 | bernhard2 | <PerfDave> ok ill just try it. |
| 13:38.59 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 13:39.08 | sickgut | can y ou boot a debian iso from grub2? |
| 13:39.32 | bernhard2 | <PerfDave> would you happen to know a webinterface wich i could use with exim4 heavy to easily create domains and mail users per domain ? |
| 13:39.36 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.82) |
| 13:39.41 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.82) |
| 13:40.07 | *** join/#debian two_eight (~dmitry@178.122.69.167) |
| 13:41.51 | PerfDave | bernhard2: I don't use web interfaces for systems administration |
| 13:42.34 | bernhard2 | <PerfDave> do you find it to create with commandline when you would have more the 10 domains with more then 200 mail accounts ? |
| 13:42.49 | bernhard2 | <PerfDave>do you find it easy.. |
| 13:42.54 | PerfDave | bernhard2: Sure, why not? |
| 13:43.12 | *** join/#debian rvalles (~lodoss@unaffiliated/rvalles) |
| 13:43.34 | wols_ | sickgut: yes one can |
| 13:43.53 | bernhard2 | <PerfDave>dont know, im very used to hmailer sever.. a gui is more my thing i guesee |
| 13:44.15 | *** join/#debian cps0 (~cps0@189-69-133-191.dial-up.telesp.net.br) |
| 13:44.16 | *** join/#debian prince_j1mmys (~mischa@pool-71-247-33-9.nycmny.east.verizon.net) |
| 13:44.24 | PerfDave | bernhard2: Please can you fix your IRC client not to do that <PerfDave> thing? It's very confusing. |
| 13:44.24 | bernhard2 | <PerfDave>anyway the upgrade to heavy went flawlessly.. |
| 13:44.45 | *** join/#debian Virtualmix (~Virtualmi@60-240-178-181.tpgi.com.au) |
| 13:44.59 | bernhard2 | sure it only says the message is ment for you .. |
| 13:45.01 | PerfDave | bernhard2: I'm sure you can do virtual mail domains with exim4 using a database backend if you like - or just edit config files with bash, perl or sed. |
| 13:45.05 | *** join/#debian MUILTFN (~MLINTH@adsl-98-80-200-6.mcn.bellsouth.net) |
| 13:45.22 | PerfDave | bernhard2: On IRC, <PerfDave> means you're quoting what I've said; PerfDave: shows you're addressing a message to me. |
| 13:45.54 | bernhard2 | PerfDave ok. thanks.. im off.. thanks for your help though.. |
| 13:47.38 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p54BABB19.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:48.01 | *** join/#debian daemonkeeper (~Arno@unaffiliated/metalfoo) |
| 13:50.39 | *** join/#debian M0ffe (~moffe@smaug.amagerkollegiet.dk) |
| 13:52.04 | *** join/#debian rosalinda (~girlss@85.108.16.56) |
| 13:53.40 | *** join/#debian CannedCorn (~CannedCor@cpe-66-65-102-78.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 13:55.12 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 13:55.24 | *** join/#debian xiangfu (~xiangfu@fidelio.qi-hardware.com) |
| 13:55.25 | *** join/#debian jtrucks (~jtrucks@freenode/staff/lopsa.board.jtrucks) |
| 13:59.06 | *** join/#debian jaan0 (~radix@108.65.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 14:02.20 | *** join/#debian Bac9 (~Bac9@2001:5c0:1500:f301:224:1dff:fe78:d7bd) |
| 14:02.24 | Bac9 | there was some utility that arranged files to split them efficiently among groups of size X, anyone recall what it was called? |
| 14:02.55 | *** join/#debian lduros (~lduros@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 14:03.07 | PerfDave | Bac9: split? |
| 14:04.09 | Bac9 | PerfDave: no, that splits a file into chinks, I need something say you have files W,X,Y,Z, arrange then into groups with each group not exceeding 5MB |
| 14:04.46 | PerfDave | Oh, the knapsack problem :) |
| 14:05.02 | Bac9 | PerfDave: back in the day it was useful for saving files to diskettes with fewest diskettes needed, now it's useful for e-mails |
| 14:05.13 | Bac9 | PerfDave: yes, but what was the app called? |
| 14:05.29 | *** join/#debian rdponticelli (~quassel@200-081-038-211.wireless.movistar.net.ar) |
| 14:05.34 | Bac9 | PerfDave: I can't seem to find it via packagesearch |
| 14:05.51 | PerfDave | Bac9: No idea, sorry, never heard of an app to do that |
| 14:06.01 | Bac9 | PerfDave: ok, thank you |
| 14:06.08 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (~master_of@p57B55DB1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:13.53 | *** join/#debian Gottaname1 (~Gottaname@bb119-74-226-25.singnet.com.sg) |
| 14:14.08 | *** part/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:14.24 | *** join/#debian heinzes (~kvirc@c-98-193-169-96.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 14:14.59 | *** join/#debian peterrooney (~peter@S01060013461620b7.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 14:15.07 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 14:16.19 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-74-76-254-36.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 14:18.20 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~0bitcount@82.159.58.27.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 14:19.24 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-76-119-248-54.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 14:19.36 | *** join/#debian omeddragon (~ome@pool-72-83-158-210.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:21.09 | *** join/#debian compromised (~avalon@shellium/member/avalon) |
| 14:21.53 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@151.80.218.159) |
| 14:24.49 | *** join/#debian EagleScreen (~quassel@243.Red-83-63-250.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:25.23 | *** join/#debian Kakadu (~kakadu@217.71.235.218) |
| 14:25.51 | Bac9 | PerfDave: found it, dirsplit, part of mkisofs package |
| 14:26.04 | *** join/#debian stepdown (~stepdown_@93-97-50-23.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 14:29.19 | Quibus | see you |
| 14:29.22 | *** part/#debian Quibus (~manuel@s5597ee44.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 14:30.47 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs109108016252.pp.htv.fi) |
| 14:31.29 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 14:32.03 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h238n2c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 14:37.33 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.215.82.210) |
| 14:38.43 | *** join/#debian flower (~d@178-24-222-106-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 14:39.35 | *** join/#debian nixmaniack (~muneeb@unaffiliated/n1xnc0d3) |
| 14:40.06 | *** join/#debian rvalles (~lodoss@84.78.233.117) |
| 14:40.06 | *** join/#debian rvalles (~lodoss@unaffiliated/rvalles) |
| 14:41.02 | *** join/#debian danrl (~danrl@natter.nonattached.net) |
| 14:41.03 | *** join/#debian F0lk (~TheY@46.227.134.87) |
| 14:41.21 | *** part/#debian F0lk (~TheY@46.227.134.87) |
| 14:41.55 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@211.81.48.142) |
| 14:42.10 | *** join/#debian hartzie (~hartzie@77-22-118-184-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 14:43.46 | *** join/#debian Ealdor (~Ealdor@23.Red-193-152-226.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:44.32 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 14:44.47 | *** join/#debian Kakadu (~kakadu@217.71.235.218) |
| 14:45.09 | *** join/#debian XLV_ (~XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) |
| 14:45.16 | *** join/#debian Amarande (amarande@71-88-41-93.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) |
| 14:45.41 | *** join/#debian lduros (~lduros@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 14:49.51 | *** join/#debian arjovr (~seba@host27.201-252-116.telecom.net.ar) |
| 14:49.58 | *** join/#debian bernhard2 (~bernhard2@dhcp-095-096-200-067.chello.nl) |
| 14:51.27 | *** join/#debian unomystEz (~unomystEz@cpe-68-173-69-193.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 14:52.07 | *** join/#debian testi (~quassel@84-72-125-244.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 14:53.19 | *** join/#debian pbase (~pbase@unaffiliated/pbase) |
| 14:53.19 | *** join/#debian grimeton (~stony@2001:470:1f15:16b4::dead:beef) |
| 14:53.20 | grimeton | hi |
| 14:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1090] by debhelper |
| 14:54.18 | grimeton | is there a trick when using grub-set-default? if i use it like "grub-set-default 2" or "grub-set-default 'menu entry name'" it's not reflected in the config that i create by grub-mkconfig later |
| 14:54.32 | grimeton | i changed /etc/defaults/grub to reflect the setting |
| 14:55.08 | pbase | I have a lil issue with the reboot option. When I try to reboot the laptop, it does reboot but instead of starting from the bios screen, it overwrites the console text and skips the grub totally.. how do I fix this? |
| 14:56.52 | *** join/#debian danrl (~danrl@natter.nonattached.net) |
| 14:57.35 | *** join/#debian zapadlo (~zapadlo@host-84-13-61-98.opaltelecom.net) |
| 14:58.31 | grimeton | pbase: how do you reboot ? shutdown -r +0 ? |
| 14:58.45 | *** join/#debian DrumScum (~tommy@d54C0A5D5.access.telenet.be) |
| 14:58.53 | thewanderer1 | pbase: disable kexec reboots in /etc/default/kexec-* |
| 14:58.55 | pbase | grimeton: using the gui option |
| 15:01.03 | pbase | thewanderer1: what does kexec do? |
| 15:01.08 | *** join/#debian llua` (~llua@99-8-171-24.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:01.35 | grimeton | pbase: kernel exec |
| 15:01.36 | thewanderer1 | pbase: reboots your kernel without actually rebooting the computer through BIOS POST etc... just replaces the kernel in RAM by a new kernel |
| 15:01.39 | grimeton | pbase: it just executes the kernel |
| 15:01.53 | thewanderer1 | I'm sure the Linux source has documentation on it |
| 15:02.13 | pbase | there is no reboot option... only LOAD_KEXEC=true in it |
| 15:02.40 | pbase | should I make it false? |
| 15:03.37 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 15:03.57 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B285AA8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:04.27 | *** join/#debian liable_ (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 15:04.40 | *** join/#debian Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@184.91.132.0) |
| 15:04.52 | pbase | .. cool!.. trying out.. brb |
| 15:04.55 | *** part/#debian pbase (~pbase@unaffiliated/pbase) |
| 15:06.34 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 15:07.03 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 15:07.15 | *** join/#debian bint (bint@cable-static-220-208.intergga.ch) |
| 15:07.26 | *** join/#debian UltimediaOS1 (~Ultimedia@i5E86547C.versanet.de) |
| 15:09.42 | *** join/#debian pbase (~pbase@unaffiliated/pbase) |
| 15:10.13 | pbase | thewanderer1: grimeton: thanks guys, that fixed it :) |
| 15:10.30 | *** join/#debian Genji_ (~Genji@112.202.50.119) |
| 15:11.42 | *** join/#debian Mkaysi (Mkaysi@unaffiliated/mkaysi) |
| 15:11.53 | *** join/#debian rocketmagnet (~stuv@unaffiliated/rocketmagnet) |
| 15:12.11 | *** join/#debian JPT (~JPT@dslc-082-082-219-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:12.27 | rocketmagnet | hi all - can someone tell me what the nouvea kernel is about ?? i get an error when trying to install the nvidia drivers beacuse of nouvea |
| 15:12.51 | *** join/#debian Bac9 (~Bac9@2406:a000:f000:b201:224:1dff:fe78:d7bd) |
| 15:12.53 | rocketmagnet | when i try to remove the nouvea mod linux is not able to start anymore =( |
| 15:13.00 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:13.27 | *** join/#debian josef__ (~josef@188-194-63-116-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 15:13.33 | *** join/#debian Genji (~Genji@112.202.50.119) |
| 15:13.39 | PerfDave | rocketmagnet: nouveau is a kernel module and Xorg driver for nVidia graphics cards |
| 15:13.43 | boudiccas | rocketmagnet; how many kernels have you? if thats the only one, then its not surprising that it wont boot |
| 15:14.09 | rocketmagnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.30 | rocketmagnet | and how to disable it to make linux boot normaly (i've a fresh squezze installation) |
| 15:14.39 | PerfDave | rocketmagnet: It provides the kernel-level interface to the hardware for direct rendering and GL accelleration, AIUI. I'd be very surprised if removing the kernel module makes your machine unbootable. |
| 15:15.11 | rocketmagnet | but it gives me an error when i'm using nouvea when i try to install the nvidia drivers |
| 15:15.31 | *** join/#debian cicerone (5d287d18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.40.125.24) |
| 15:15.41 | *** join/#debian LordDeath_ (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-164-12.netcologne.de) |
| 15:16.02 | rocketmagnet | PerfDave: i just want to disable it so i can install the official nvidia drivers |
| 15:16.13 | *** join/#debian Totor (~oser@4aa54-4-82-234-150-40.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:16.41 | Amarande | !tell rocketmagnet about nvidia dkms |
| 15:17.03 | PerfDave | rocketmagnet: So what is your problem, that your kernel won't boot? |
| 15:18.54 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 15:18.57 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 15:19.01 | rocketmagnet | PerfDave: i want to install the offizial nvidia drivers from the nvidia homepage |
| 15:19.08 | *** join/#debian Dinux17 (~dinux@ip157-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 15:19.17 | rocketmagnet | but when i run the installer i get an error because i'm using the nouvea kernel module |
| 15:19.29 | rocketmagnet | the installer can disable it, but then the machine doesn't boot anymore |
| 15:19.40 | rocketmagnet | so how to disable the nouvea kernel module and make the system start normaly ? |
| 15:20.18 | rocketmagnet | and which runlevel is the right one to install the nvidia driver ? |
| 15:20.35 | *** join/#debian rwcook35 (~home@50.36.44.100) |
| 15:20.38 | rocketmagnet | lsmod |
| 15:20.40 | rocketmagnet | ups |
| 15:20.42 | rocketmagnet | ... |
| 15:21.39 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-164-12.netcologne.de) |
| 15:23.03 | *** join/#debian M0ffe (~moffe@smaug.amagerkollegiet.dk) |
| 15:24.04 | *** join/#debian _ramo1 (~ramo@p5DDB6668.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:24.22 | *** part/#debian _ramo1 (~ramo@p5DDB6668.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:25.03 | rocketmagnet | PerfDave: i just want to disable the nouvea stuff and make linux boot normaly |
| 15:25.16 | rocketmagnet | so i can use the nvidia installer to have the latest driver |
| 15:26.04 | Amarande | rocketmagnet: #nvidia. #debian doesn't support the nvidia website installer |
| 15:26.49 | rocketmagnet | k |
| 15:28.35 | *** join/#debian StuckDK (freenode@0x5da4ea82.rdnqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 15:29.27 | *** join/#debian binbash_ (~peter@server.digitog.nl) |
| 15:30.02 | *** join/#debian peregrinator_six (~humano@unaffiliated/peregrinator-six/x-3729336) |
| 15:30.35 | *** join/#debian rosalinda (~girlss@85.108.22.94) |
| 15:31.03 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 15:33.05 | jnix | sorry bout that folks |
| 15:33.14 | jnix | downloaded an irssi script and didn't bother to check first |
| 15:33.39 | PerfDave | rosalinda: How does nouveau stop linux from booting? |
| 15:34.09 | PerfDave | Bah I meant rocketmagnet but he's gone away |
| 15:34.19 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 15:34.21 | PerfDave | Amarande: Please don't advise people to use the nvidia website installer, it will break their system |
| 15:35.23 | *** join/#debian h2oman (~h2oman@cpe-24-30-181-81.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 15:36.14 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@40-26-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 15:36.23 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-249-133-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 15:37.40 | *** join/#debian Calyp (~Caly@unaffiliated/calyptratus-tzm) |
| 15:38.34 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@40-26-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 15:38.59 | *** join/#debian graytron (~tero@h-62-142-156-12.joensuunelli.fi) |
| 15:40.17 | *** join/#debian rocketmagnet (~stuv@unaffiliated/rocketmagnet) |
| 15:40.21 | rocketmagnet | hi again |
| 15:40.40 | rocketmagnet | short questions about runlevels - which runlevel is the right one to be back in the console and make x shutdown ? |
| 15:40.43 | *** join/#debian ICEBreakPoint (~d3mux32@89.181.154.136) |
| 15:40.43 | rocketmagnet | 3? |
| 15:40.50 | Bushmills | eh? any |
| 15:40.58 | Bushmills | except 0, 1, 6 |
| 15:41.08 | rocketmagnet | so 3 should do the trick ? |
| 15:41.22 | rocketmagnet | i try it =) |
| 15:41.23 | rocketmagnet | thx |
| 15:41.31 | *** join/#debian MUILTFN (~MLINTH@adsl-98-80-240-106.mcn.bellsouth.net) |
| 15:41.44 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-76-119-248-54.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 15:41.52 | Bushmills | unless you're using a non-debian system, of course |
| 15:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1097] by debhelper |
| 15:48.43 | *** join/#debian Mmike (~msplival@cpe-188-129-72-151.dynamic.amis.hr) |
| 15:50.15 | *** join/#debian inzzz (~bright@host064-017.kpn-gprs.nl) |
| 15:50.21 | *** join/#debian Martinp23 (martinp23@freenode/staff/martinp23) |
| 15:51.15 | *** join/#debian gooph (~chatzilla@71.21.135.229) |
| 15:51.38 | *** join/#debian testi (~quassel@84-72-125-244.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 15:51.50 | *** join/#debian FlowChart (~Miranda@dialin-hb-80-228-60-222.ewetel.net) |
| 15:52.01 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99.196.216.51) |
| 15:52.12 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.23.125.19) |
| 15:52.22 | *** join/#debian joris (~joris@83.101.5.149) |
| 15:52.39 | *** join/#debian compromised (~avalon@shellium/member/avalon) |
| 15:52.59 | *** join/#debian advocatusdiaboli (~advocatus@193.69.144.162) |
| 15:53.17 | compromised | rosalinda == spammer; |
| 15:53.19 | *** join/#debian SushiDude (~sushi@cpe-66-67-54-249.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 15:53.19 | *** join/#debian SushiDude (~sushi@unaffiliated/sushidude) |
| 15:53.43 | *** join/#debian mst (~matthewt@freenode/staff/shadowcat.chainsaw-wielder) |
| 15:54.21 | *** join/#debian debish (~debish@56.Red-81-35-97.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:55.01 | *** join/#debian realPerfieM (blackbag@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-bqamrimirzoplnwr) |
| 15:56.35 | *** join/#debian brokenjames (~brokenjam@c-68-45-214-191.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 15:57.24 | *** join/#debian jaan0 (~radix@108.65.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 15:57.59 | *** join/#debian Totor (~oser@4aa54-4-82-234-150-40.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:01.27 | *** part/#debian mst (~matthewt@freenode/staff/shadowcat.chainsaw-wielder) |
| 16:02.30 | *** join/#debian Slystone1 (~stony1@213.47.4.93.rev.sfr.net) |
| 16:02.53 | ujjain | Should I use SimpleBackup to backup data or the entire OS? Does it make sense to backup the entire OS or will recovering the entire OS fail anyway with SimpleBackup? |
| 16:04.54 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-60.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 16:06.41 | *** join/#debian mrhanky (~mrhanky@2a03:4000:1::2e26:e815:1) |
| 16:06.45 | *** join/#debian grandie (~thomas@p57ACE8ED.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:10.50 | *** join/#debian popkill (~popkill@unaffiliated/popkill) |
| 16:13.28 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 16:14.25 | *** join/#debian JPT (~JPT@dslc-082-082-219-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:16.59 | valdyn | !runlevel |
| 16:16.59 | vlt | Hello. Is there a repository for fcdsl kernel modules? (fcdsl = Fritz!Card ISDN/DSL from AVM) |
| 16:16.59 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot. By default 2, 3, 4 and 5 are identical (no graphic/non-graphic runlevels), but you can configure this if you wish. Read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d; if that doesn't make sense, consider installing <rcconf> instead. See also http://debian-administration.org/articles/212, <startup>, <file-rc>, <single-user mode>. |
| 16:19.18 | *** join/#debian AsuraLe (~ashurta@118.114.190.133) |
| 16:20.21 | *** join/#debian jcrowgey (~jcrowgey@71-23-40-78.war.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 16:21.09 | *** join/#debian harovali1 (~harovali@r190-134-129-127.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 16:21.31 | jcrowgey | hello debian channel, i just did an upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, something's gone wrong with my display settings, now i see "welcome to GRUB", then only a blank screen, any suggestions |
| 16:21.54 | *** join/#debian drixter (~drixter@fido.e-utp.net) |
| 16:22.06 | *** join/#debian claf (~claf@78.222.14.132) |
| 16:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1103] by debhelper |
| 16:24.35 | jcrowgey | so, i've been using my flash drive to boot an installer and get a shell, but nothing i've tried has helped. where can i find a grub log or boot log? |
| 16:24.56 | *** join/#debian adb (~Moldovean@78.97.148.116) |
| 16:25.38 | *** join/#debian CoilDomain (~jasonruiz@64.157.15.148) |
| 16:25.48 | thewanderer1 | at that stage, there is nothing logged anyway |
| 16:25.54 | *** join/#debian Kakadu (~kakadu@217.71.235.218) |
| 16:25.54 | *** join/#debian bammzach (~bammzach@gateway/tor-sasl/bammzach) |
| 16:28.18 | *** join/#debian CoilDomain (~jasonruiz@64.157.15.148) |
| 16:28.58 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 16:30.09 | *** join/#debian omeddragon (~ome@pool-72-83-158-210.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:30.42 | *** join/#debian repson (~repson@222.174.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 16:31.34 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@89.95.29.161) |
| 16:32.39 | *** join/#debian rocketmagnet (~stuv@unaffiliated/rocketmagnet) |
| 16:32.40 | rocketmagnet | hi all |
| 16:32.56 | rocketmagnet | i've installed irssi and i'm now searching for the icon - where does debian stores the icons ?? |
| 16:33.18 | goshawk1 | rocketmagnet, I dont believe there is an icon for irssi |
| 16:33.31 | rocketmagnet | where is the default folder for icons ? |
| 16:34.15 | goshawk1 | rocketmagnet, check under /usr/share/ |
| 16:34.23 | *** join/#debian gamer1990 (~znc@bankai-hosting.com) |
| 16:34.44 | rocketmagnet | ty |
| 16:34.50 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@mna75-11-88-161-199-178.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:35.04 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@89.95.29.161) |
| 16:35.12 | rocketmagnet | goshawk1: so i've to make an icon... which format does i have to use ? |
| 16:35.17 | goshawk1 | /usr/share/icons is a good place to start I would guess |
| 16:36.21 | goshawk1 | rocketmagnet, you could make your own, or, http://geektivities.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/transparent-background-icons-for-tor-irssi-uzbl/ |
| 16:36.27 | *** join/#debian nas (~nas@64.141.21.22) |
| 16:36.47 | nas | anybody know how to setup xorg to get hdmi video out |
| 16:36.51 | nas | with nvidia drivers |
| 16:37.03 | jhutchins_lt | !nvidia |
| 16:37.03 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. See <nvidia lenny> for oldstable. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 16:37.15 | *** join/#debian dbugger (~dbugger@e178024119.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 16:37.24 | *** join/#debian thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@110.77.242.221) |
| 16:37.49 | *** join/#debian peterS (~peter@wire.p12n.org) |
| 16:38.37 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@89.95.29.161) |
| 16:38.53 | grimeton | usbdump isn't part of the debian repositories, is it? |
| 16:39.51 | PerfDave | grimeton: Did you try searching for it? :) |
| 16:40.44 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:40.45 | goshawk1 | grimeton, it doesnt look like it's part of usbutils |
| 16:41.05 | *** join/#debian bolong7 (~bolong7@223.255.226.129) |
| 16:42.32 | grimeton | PerfDave: yeah, i know the tools apt-cache, apt-file and - if necessary - packages.debian.org ... |
| 16:42.41 | grimeton | is using debian sind slink |
| 16:42.44 | grimeton | s/sind/since |
| 16:43.03 | Amarande | the first Debian I ever used was Bo |
| 16:43.11 | grimeton | which doesn't mean i'm to lazy to search ;) |
| 16:43.19 | *** join/#debian Kakadu (~kakadu@217.71.235.218) |
| 16:43.33 | *** join/#debian bernhard2 (~bernhard2@dhcp-095-096-200-067.chello.nl) |
| 16:43.37 | *** join/#debian unomi (~unomi@125.26.247.5.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) |
| 16:44.21 | *** join/#debian surfdue (surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue) |
| 16:44.40 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@190.148.177.138) |
| 16:44.51 | *** join/#debian omeddragon (~ome@pool-72-83-158-210.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:44.59 | *** join/#debian phunguy (santas@will.one.day.hack-the-pla.net) |
| 16:45.27 | *** join/#debian hkais (~xenoadmin@stgt-5f729360.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 16:45.48 | *** join/#debian CoilDomain (~jasonruiz@64.157.15.148) |
| 16:45.51 | *** join/#debian LegolasV (~whoeiii35@kde/developer/sverberkt) |
| 16:46.23 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@router-vinice.pilsfree.net) |
| 16:46.46 | *** join/#debian marchlew (~marchlew@acth73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:47.39 | *** join/#debian preller (~preller@46.182.125.29) |
| 16:47.39 | *** join/#debian preller (~preller@unaffiliated/preller) |
| 16:47.57 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 16:48.36 | *** join/#debian FlowChart1 (~Miranda@dialin-hb-80-228-59-143.ewetel.net) |
| 16:49.43 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-24-4-180-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:51.00 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 16:51.12 | *** part/#debian dbugger (~dbugger@e178024119.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 16:51.38 | *** join/#debian M0ffe (~moffe@smaug.amagerkollegiet.dk) |
| 16:51.43 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 16:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1115] by debhelper |
| 16:54.01 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 16:54.30 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@78.129.175.206) |
| 16:54.33 | *** join/#debian rosalinda (~kkl@85.103.195.21) |
| 16:55.15 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 16:55.19 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.78) |
| 16:55.43 | *** part/#debian rosalinda (~kkl@85.103.195.21) |
| 16:56.51 | *** join/#debian rosalinda (~kkl@85.103.195.21) |
| 16:59.01 | *** join/#debian simonlnu (~simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) |
| 16:59.14 | *** join/#debian AsuraLe (~ashurta@118.114.190.133) |
| 16:59.22 | *** join/#debian cyrinux (~cyril@2a01:e35:2f76:9e30:a288:b4ff:fe11:eb5c) |
| 17:00.00 | *** part/#debian niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) |
| 17:00.04 | *** join/#debian niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) |
| 17:00.21 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 17:00.52 | simonlnu | !ops rosalinda spam bot |
| 17:00.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: simonlnu complains about: rosalinda spam bot |
| 17:00.55 | *** part/#debian rocketmagnet (~stuv@unaffiliated/rocketmagnet) |
| 17:16.27 | *** join/#debian apt (~apt@rikers.org) |
| 17:16.27 | *** topic/#debian is squeeze (6.0.2) released; /msg dpkg squeeze ; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | lenny (5.0.8) /msg dpkg 5.0.8 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ | channel logs: http://deb.li/yQXC |
| 17:16.33 | *** join/#debian melodos (~melodos@188-167-114-107.dynamic.chello.sk) |
| 17:16.33 | melodos | anyone here? |
| 17:16.46 | melodos | is there a major difference between testing/stable? |
| 17:16.50 | somiaj | neoice: if you just want it to run daily, put teh script in /etc/cron.daily/ |
| 17:16.57 | melodos | just need to install xfce4 and its really old on stable |
| 17:17.04 | *** join/#debian looser (~timmy@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 17:17.07 | somiaj | neoice: every script in that dir runs once a day, if you don't like the time it runs, yes you'll have to make your own rule. |
| 17:17.08 | themill | dpkg: tell melodos about moving target |
| 17:17.12 | melodos | would i be ok for daily usage with testing? |
| 17:17.19 | looser | whats |
| 17:17.29 | looser | what's going on here? |
| 17:17.41 | themill | melodos: many do; personally, I'd say not. |
| 17:17.57 | somiaj | melodos: if something breaks can you manually figure out depends issues? Can you check the bts and apply fixes? Do you mind not having seciruty updates for up to a month? do you have time when you upgrade/install incase there is a bug? |
| 17:18.13 | melodos | i need sort of a bleeding edge system like arch |
| 17:18.28 | melodos | and i like the .deb binaries out there |
| 17:18.34 | melodos | hate xubuntu though |
| 17:18.48 | melodos | so essentially i need something like arch |
| 17:19.06 | melodos | its not for server usage |
| 17:19.10 | melodos | need new packages too |
| 17:19.18 | melodos | not skype 0.0001 |
| 17:19.33 | somiaj | melodos: I run sid as my desktop, but I'm willing to deal with anything that breaks. I also backup my data for the really grave bugs that wipe things. |
| 17:19.39 | *** part/#debian rocketmagnet (~stuv@unaffiliated/rocketmagnet) |
| 17:19.49 | melodos | i was thinking just testing |
| 17:19.57 | melodos | thts wht i always did on a debian situation |
| 17:20.06 | somiaj | melodos: squeeze + backports is the suggested for new people. But you can do what ever it is you want, just don't expect much support or sympth when it breaks. |
| 17:20.06 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~0bitcount@82.159.58.27.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 17:20.07 | melodos | is the maturity level ok on wheezy? |
| 17:20.09 | themill | melodos: skype isn't in debian anyway, so that's not an issue. |
| 17:20.40 | melodos | so many levels on debian |
| 17:20.45 | melodos | i think testing should be fine |
| 17:21.23 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 17:22.46 | *** join/#debian smeea (~smeea@89.163.26.137) |
| 17:23.11 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~0bitcount@82.159.58.27.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 17:24.33 | melodos | btw, how do you change the completely disgusting debian console fonts? |
| 17:24.34 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:24.48 | *** join/#debian gebjgd (~gebjgd@mnsr-4db0af56.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:24.58 | *** join/#debian gebjgd (~gebjgd@unaffiliated/gebjgd) |
| 17:25.10 | melodos | they boot showing up fine and then they went fat old lady style |
| 17:26.23 | *** join/#debian gnufreex (~quassel@109-93-66-119.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 17:26.34 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@151.81.156.169) |
| 17:26.41 | melodos | anyone before i go loco? |
| 17:27.08 | PerfDave | I'm not sure what "fat old lady style" is, other than a sexist, ageist, sizist and idiotic statement ;) |
| 17:27.13 | *** part/#debian looser (~timmy@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 17:27.40 | melodos | probably all of the above |
| 17:27.46 | melodos | but how do i get rid of em |
| 17:28.14 | melodos | i am racist and a biggot |
| 17:28.35 | PerfDave | !tell melodos -about console fonts |
| 17:28.40 | melodos | thx |
| 17:29.16 | *** join/#debian rosalinda (~kkl@85.108.12.95) |
| 17:29.19 | themill | "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" may also be of interest |
| 17:29.24 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 17:29.34 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@85.108.12.95] by themill |
| 17:29.36 | *** kick/#debian [rosalinda!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (You should know better) |
| 17:29.37 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 17:29.51 | PerfDave | themill: Should that be added to the console fonts factoid? |
| 17:30.18 | melodos | themill, can i configure them during installation? |
| 17:30.33 | themill | PerfDave: probably |
| 17:30.49 | PerfDave | dpkg: console fonts is also dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
| 17:30.49 | dpkg | PerfDave: okay |
| 17:30.55 | themill | melodos: nfc. It's not something I've every worried about. |
| 17:30.59 | melodos | i have no idea what debian devs where thinking about those console fonts, just so damn ugly.. |
| 17:31.12 | *** join/#debian Captain_Harlock (~spacelord@ppp046177245082.dsl.hol.gr) |
| 17:31.13 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 17:31.29 | themill | melodos: it sounds like you have particularly strange hardware there. I've never seen them look anything other than normal |
| 17:31.35 | PerfDave | TBH it's not something that's ever concerned me - I either have a GUI if I'm sat at the machine, or SSH / serial if it's a server :) |
| 17:31.36 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@ppp121-45-238-119.lns20.per1.internode.on.net) |
| 17:31.37 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 17:32.03 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@89.95.29.161) |
| 17:32.15 | melodos | woooooow, just running the testing-netinstall and i get a prompt to install kernel 3.0 |
| 17:32.15 | melodos | wicked |
| 17:32.19 | melodos | should i convey? |
| 17:32.29 | PerfDave | convey? |
| 17:34.19 | melodos | :) |
| 17:34.19 | melodos | hm its a 486 though |
| 17:34.19 | melodos | wht about 686 |
| 17:34.19 | *** join/#debian jaan0 (~radix@108.65.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 17:34.19 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1122] by debhelper |
| 17:34.19 | melodos | are there 686 packages in debian? |
| 17:35.04 | melodos | "i686 optimized" |
| 17:35.04 | *** part/#debian Bac9 (~Bac9@2406:a000:f000:b201:224:1dff:fe78:d7bd) |
| 17:35.04 | *** join/#debian newyork (~newyork@p3E991AB2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:35.30 | somiaj | melodos: very very few. apt-cache search 686 -- I thought there was an optimzed libc6 |
| 17:52.05 | *** join/#debian apt (~apt@rikers.org) |
| 17:52.05 | *** topic/#debian is squeeze (6.0.2) released; /msg dpkg squeeze ; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | lenny (5.0.8) /msg dpkg 5.0.8 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ | channel logs: http://deb.li/yQXC |
| 17:52.14 | somiaj | when you get little to nothing for optimization why push away other users as well. Debians goal is run on as many machines as possible, while being stable and secure |
| 17:52.25 | jelly-home | and if one wants a refreshed ABI, amd64 includes sse or sse2 by default together with all the other 64bit stuff |
| 17:52.29 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@66.54.118.89) |
| 17:53.49 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD49237.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:54.08 | *** join/#debian trbs (~trbs@2001:470:d2ad:1:4a5b:39ff:fe7d:1623) |
| 17:54.12 | *** join/#debian hartzie (~hartzie@77-22-118-184-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:54.27 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudi@78.29.167.223) |
| 17:54.38 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@66.54.118.89) |
| 17:54.58 | *** join/#debian Afei (~afei@220.248.0.145) |
| 17:55.29 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@103-182-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 17:57.23 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@66.54.118.89) |
| 17:57.32 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ (~DEDD_MORR@178.127.22.33) |
| 17:59.09 | *** join/#debian Rodrigo1 (kekekek@187.79.1.54) |
| 17:59.17 | *** join/#debian sythe (~quassel@70.49.107.131) |
| 17:59.17 | *** join/#debian sythe (~quassel@unaffiliated/sythe) |
| 18:00.25 | *** join/#debian BernardV (~bernard@2a02:898:104:1::1) |
| 18:00.28 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@66.54.118.89) |
| 18:00.30 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ2 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.206.101) |
| 18:02.56 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.149.250) |
| 18:03.23 | *** join/#debian antgel (~topdog@bzq-84-110-4-118.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 18:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1129] by debhelper |
| 18:04.56 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 18:05.43 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone) |
| 18:06.31 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-8-118.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 18:07.27 | *** join/#debian eSa| (~esa@host184-232-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:08.02 | *** join/#debian OldParr (~wayuu_2@unaffiliated/oldparr) |
| 18:08.34 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ2 (~DEDD_MORR@93.84.60.217) |
| 18:10.45 | *** join/#debian DJPressbox (~DJPressbo@c-98-249-35-56.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 18:11.06 | DJPressbox | tryin to do a netinstall, getting these errors -- needs some help to fix 'em |
| 18:11.07 | DJPressbox | http://pastebin.com/juacbQYX |
| 18:11.16 | *** join/#debian Accelerator (~mint@unaffiliated/iymovies) |
| 18:11.18 | Accelerator | Is there a repository for installing MySQLnd on Debian? |
| 18:11.25 | *** join/#debian qrq (~eri@bsy188.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:11.37 | qrq | How pack files in deb? |
| 18:12.02 | qrq | I edited deb file |
| 18:12.09 | qrq | And now I want to pack it again |
| 18:13.51 | thewanderer1 | Accelerator: just what is mysqlnd? |
| 18:14.26 | Accelerator | http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/connector/php-mysqlnd/ |
| 18:14.40 | *** join/#debian Chappie_san (~hannu.ven@87-100-149-253.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 18:16.03 | *** join/#debian NuX`iL (~edo@bas1-montreal33-1176490802.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:17.15 | *** join/#debian tyn (~rynxy@d-213-83.resnet.unb.ca) |
| 18:17.39 | *** join/#debian Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@unaffiliated/ex-opesa) |
| 18:19.40 | *** join/#debian rsampaio (~rodrigo@187.11.28.40) |
| 18:20.35 | *** join/#debian symptom (~symptom@unaffiliated/symptom) |
| 18:22.34 | *** part/#debian Rodrigo1_Ausente (kekekek@187.79.1.54) |
| 18:22.34 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.156.11) |
| 18:22.37 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.149.132) |
| 18:22.51 | *** join/#debian linuxuario (~juan@190.207.224.114) |
| 18:27.34 | *** part/#debian OldParr (~wayuu_2@unaffiliated/oldparr) |
| 18:27.34 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ2 (~DEDD_MORR@93.85.205.167) |
| 18:28.25 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.23.125.19) |
| 18:29.21 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ3 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.226.160) |
| 18:30.36 | *** join/#debian Bihu (~Bihu@122.159.236.91) |
| 18:31.21 | *** join/#debian ulaek (~ulaek@0x4dd53016.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 18:31.51 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:31.59 | *** join/#debian CadeSkywalker (~Cade@put92-2-212-194-144-131.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 18:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1123] by debhelper |
| 18:38.30 | *** part/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@unaffiliated/stefandevries) |
| 18:40.19 | *** join/#debian icarious (~merv@122.163.79.131) |
| 18:40.28 | *** join/#debian repson (~repson@222.174.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 18:42.44 | icarious | I installed Wheezy with nouveau and openbox with slim. however when it boots up x is not starting. How do I use the nouveau driver or create an xorg.conf ? |
| 18:42.44 | *** join/#debian Malmis (malmis@c-2e8172d5.014-208-73746f25.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 18:43.03 | *** join/#debian An_Ony_Moose (~linus@skysimulation.de) |
| 18:43.16 | An_Ony_Moose | is there a way to set the locale to fix errors like this? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/482295/ |
| 18:43.18 | *** join/#debian twanny796 (~twanny@46.11.89.80) |
| 18:43.49 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-64-25-120.home.otenet.gr) |
| 18:44.51 | *** join/#debian nascentmind (~nascentmi@122.172.39.124) |
| 18:45.14 | nascentmind | hi. what does apt use to show the installation in a single line? |
| 18:46.20 | thewanderer1 | An_Ony_Moose: export LANG=C |
| 18:46.36 | An_Ony_Moose | thewanderer1: and how do I set it permanently for the entire system? |
| 18:46.40 | thewanderer1 | icarious: nouveau is enabled by default |
| 18:47.06 | thewanderer1 | An_Ony_Moose: edit /etc/default/locale... but you should really just install locales and configure them properly |
| 18:47.46 | *** join/#debian larsivi (~quassel@188.113.74.106) |
| 18:48.01 | An_Ony_Moose | thewanderer1: so install packages like language-pack-en-base? |
| 18:48.04 | *** join/#debian rdponticelli (~quassel@200-081-038-211.wireless.movistar.net.ar) |
| 18:48.26 | *** part/#debian nascentmind (~nascentmi@122.172.39.124) |
| 18:48.41 | thewanderer1 | !tell An_Ony_Moose about ubuntu |
| 18:48.59 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@87.254.92.140) |
| 18:49.14 | thewanderer1 | I honestly don't have any idea how Ubuntu handles locale stuff |
| 18:49.17 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 18:49.26 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:49.28 | An_Ony_Moose | whoops |
| 18:49.31 | An_Ony_Moose | sorry |
| 18:50.15 | icarious | thewanderer1: but X is not starting up. got slim as my login manager. but its not starting up. got xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed |
| 18:50.46 | thewanderer1 | icarious: and what does the error log say? |
| 18:51.25 | icarious | there is no error. when its booting up as usual its saying "Starting X display manager: slim." but there is no X |
| 18:52.11 | thewanderer1 | no error in the X log? |
| 18:52.21 | icarious | how do i check it mate? |
| 18:52.28 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@89.95.29.161) |
| 18:52.43 | thewanderer1 | read /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 18:52.51 | *** join/#debian donald (~donald@pD950E50E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:52.56 | icarious | ok hold on |
| 18:53.23 | *** join/#debian initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) |
| 18:53.30 | initself | this is my entry in crontab: /opt/Candela-DataMart/t/moose/05_all.t /etc/cron.daily 1>/tmp/05_all_output 2>/tmp/05_all_errors |
| 18:53.41 | initself | can i just run that from the command line as is? |
| 18:54.16 | icarious | thewanderer1: it did load the nouveau module . tell me onething. what packages do i need to install for a working xorg? i thought openbox / slim already installed them as dependencies |
| 18:54.21 | initself | i am just interested in running it and gettin gthe logs |
| 18:54.25 | thewanderer1 | initself: try it and see? :P |
| 18:55.17 | thewanderer1 | icarious: xserver-xorg |
| 18:55.30 | icarious | thewanderer1: ok |
| 18:56.00 | *** join/#debian skrewler (~skrewler@70-36-139-123.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 18:56.37 | *** join/#debian dawud (~dawud@249.Red-81-37-152.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:56.58 | *** join/#debian rwcook35 (~home@50.36.44.100) |
| 18:57.27 | *** join/#debian fredy (~tobias_@ppp-94-66-125-177.home.otenet.gr) |
| 18:57.51 | *** join/#debian torl (~torl@173.242.127.201) |
| 18:58.04 | torl | is there any text livecd that has read and write programs for ntfs? |
| 18:58.23 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 18:58.25 | torl | lawl 1111 nicks online in this chan |
| 18:59.19 | *** join/#debian rsampaio (~rodrigo@187.11.30.25) |
| 19:00.02 | *** join/#debian civillian (~nickn@174.202.49.122-static.velocitynet.com.au) |
| 19:01.11 | icarious | thewanderer1: solved it. dont know why apt didnt install xserver-xorg as a dependency when i installed slim / openbox |
| 19:01.29 | icarious | thanks for the help though. cheers |
| 19:01.53 | thewanderer1 | maybe because it was not a dependency? :P |
| 19:02.34 | icarious | :| then whats the use of an X dependent package to get installed without X . i thought it was a nouveau problem :S |
| 19:02.45 | PerfDave | icarious: openbox isn't dependent on a local X server |
| 19:02.53 | PerfDave | You might run it in a VNC server, for example |
| 19:03.00 | PerfDave | Or export it over a network |
| 19:03.02 | thewanderer1 | ye, it happily runs remotely |
| 19:03.12 | icarious | PerfDave: oh ok |
| 19:03.13 | thewanderer1 | as to why slim doesn't depend on X, that's a better question :) |
| 19:03.33 | icarious | what is the Openbox default autostart directory under Debian? I am using it first time though. switched from LXDE |
| 19:03.36 | PerfDave | I have a colo box with no X installed which runs desktop sessions over VNC :) |
| 19:03.39 | icarious | thewanderer1: affirmative |
| 19:03.55 | *** join/#debian aether (~aether@78-86-178-178.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:04.27 | *** join/#debian Nik05 (~Nik05@s5377b589.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 19:05.05 | *** part/#debian torl (~torl@173.242.127.201) |
| 19:08.18 | *** join/#debian PhilSliderS (~kvirc@2a01:e35:2f26:89b0:b9c6:25ea:27b8:3a91) |
| 19:08.31 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99.196.216.51) |
| 19:09.36 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 19:09.38 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@85.108.12.95] by themill |
| 19:09.40 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 19:12.33 | *** join/#debian EagleScreen (~quassel@243.Red-83-63-250.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:13.46 | *** join/#debian seb82 (~seb82@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 19:14.23 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 19:17.56 | jhutchins_lt | aplay doesn't seem to like ogg files - what will play them from the cli? |
| 19:18.26 | *** join/#debian olol85 (~olol85@s66-183-19-244.bc.hsia.telus.net) |
| 19:18.35 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@ppp046177030145.dsl.hol.gr) |
| 19:18.36 | somiaj | jhutchins_lt: mplayer plays everything from the cli, but ogg123 is a simpilar app |
| 19:19.00 | *** join/#debian jcrowgey (~jcrowgey@71-23-40-78.war.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 19:19.04 | *** join/#debian dawud (~dawud@24.Red-79-154-182.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:19.25 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@77-234-68-13.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 19:20.28 | jhutchins_lt | somiaj: What package? |
| 19:20.39 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 19:20.48 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:21.05 | *** join/#debian peter6376 (~peter6376@220-135-12-78.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 19:21.16 | *** join/#debian fl0wer (~d@178-24-222-106-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:21.46 | somiaj | jhutchins_lt: vorbis-tools |
| 19:21.53 | somiaj | has ogg123 |
| 19:22.00 | somiaj | mplayer is self explaninatory. (: |
| 19:22.41 | *** join/#debian dumbo88 (~Dumby@207.195.93.12) |
| 19:22.57 | jhutchins_lt | somiaj: mplayer is already installed. |
| 19:23.08 | *** join/#debian gusto (~gusto@bband-dyn39.178-40-84.t-com.sk) |
| 19:23.13 | jhutchins_lt | Trying to find some good alarm sounds. |
| 19:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1131] by debhelper |
| 19:27.44 | seb82 | hey guys... still having issues... my sound doesn't work anymore... my laptop turns off suddenly... while it is on external power... and my internal keyboard malfunctions when the system harddrive indicator is constantly glowing... |
| 19:28.10 | qrq | Whats is the name of that dark theme in debian? :D |
| 19:29.36 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 19:30.24 | qrq | Can someone check? :D |
| 19:31.19 | *** join/#debian Neobear (~Anderson@unaffiliated/alpsinc) |
| 19:31.43 | sary | Darklooks. |
| 19:31.49 | qrq | Thanks |
| 19:32.02 | sary | you welcome. |
| 19:32.13 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler) |
| 19:32.41 | *** join/#debian efaistos (~efaistos@ns303084.ovh.net) |
| 19:32.51 | *** join/#debian exekias (~foobar@ks36124.kimsufi.com) |
| 19:32.52 | *** join/#debian _KaszpiR_ (~kaszpir@82-210-179-22.home.aster.pl) |
| 19:33.30 | *** join/#debian infinity_ (~brendon@web2.artsopolis.com) |
| 19:33.51 | *** join/#debian UltimediaOS (~Ultimedia@i5E86547C.versanet.de) |
| 19:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1122] by debhelper |
| 19:36.05 | *** join/#debian anaschema (~anaschema@gateway/tor-sasl/kirvax) |
| 19:36.14 | *** join/#debian Myztik (~Myztik@85-232.anonymous.at.anonine.com) |
| 19:36.58 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 19:37.13 | *** join/#debian arjovr_ (~arjovr@host27.201-252-116.telecom.net.ar) |
| 19:37.23 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 19:39.31 | icarious | is 3D supported in nouveau under wheezy? which package do I need to install? |
| 19:39.52 | somiaj | icarious: apt-cache search nouveau should return the packages you need |
| 19:40.06 | somiaj | icarious: 3D nouveau support imo isn't as good as the non-free drivers. |
| 19:40.16 | *** join/#debian xiaoy (~unknown@adsl-ull-103-243.50-151.net24.it) |
| 19:40.16 | *** join/#debian xiaoy (~unknown@unaffiliated/xiaoy) |
| 19:40.27 | PerfDave | icarious: Depends on your hardware, check the nouveau wiki |
| 19:40.42 | PerfDave | somiaj: But it's less likely to have a remote root hole than the proprietary drivers ;) |
| 19:41.14 | icarious | PerfDave: my hard is a 9400GT . it worked well with nouveau+3d under archlinux with a package called nouveau-dri. dont know the debian equivalent . |
| 19:41.28 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 19:41.34 | Amarande | yeah, nouveau has a long way to go towards DRI support |
| 19:41.41 | Amarande | and even the 9 series is "too new" as far as open source DRI goes |
| 19:41.42 | *** join/#debian zapadlo (~zapadlo@host-89-242-83-144.as13285.net) |
| 19:42.01 | Amarande | I have a GTS 250, which = 9800GTX+, and I still have to use non-free for proper DRI |
| 19:42.02 | *** join/#debian r0gu3b1T (~r0gu3b1T@c-76-97-136-102.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 19:42.15 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@31.56.126.186) |
| 19:42.15 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 19:42.23 | *** part/#debian arjovr_ (~arjovr@host27.201-252-116.telecom.net.ar) |
| 19:42.53 | *** join/#debian arjovr_ (~arjovr@host27.201-252-116.telecom.net.ar) |
| 19:43.11 | icarious | Amarande: i used it till date. but want to use a clean and FREE environment.I play a game called Urban Terror for which i need 3D. it worked well with nouveau DRI under Arch with a decent 120 FPS :D |
| 19:43.25 | *** join/#debian CA (bah@213.155.190.134) |
| 19:43.51 | *** join/#debian SushiDude (~sushi@unaffiliated/sushidude) |
| 19:45.10 | *** join/#debian war4head (~warhead@cpe-109-60-24-50.st3.cable.xnet.hr) |
| 19:46.25 | thewanderer1 | guys, my command: ausearch -ts 09/25/2011 -sc execve; error: Error parsing start date (09/25/2011); |
| 19:46.50 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.23.125.19) |
| 19:46.53 | thewanderer1 | I want to display audit events for execve syscalls starting from 25th September 2011 |
| 19:47.12 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:48.14 | *** join/#debian cicerone (5d287d18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.40.125.24) |
| 19:48.47 | *** join/#debian s1 (~sa@188.248.253.10) |
| 19:48.47 | *** join/#debian s1 (~sa@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 19:49.13 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: are you really using a locale that accept the MM/DD/YYYY format |
| 19:49.16 | *** join/#debian TrueDD (~truedd@unaffiliated/truedd) |
| 19:49.48 | *** join/#debian npx (~alex@74-137-241-13.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 19:50.03 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 19:50.13 | thewanderer1 | jelly: no |
| 19:50.14 | TrueDD | Hi everybody ! |
| 19:50.35 | seb82 | hey TrueDD |
| 19:50.43 | dvs | thewanderer1: I'd try an ISO dater personally. |
| 19:50.50 | TrueDD | hey, seb82 |
| 19:50.55 | npx | hey guys... I'm using Squeeze and I love it, but I need to install various programming languages/runtimes/etc that are newer than what's provided in the Squeeze repos. Is there a better way to do this than e.g., manually installing into /opt? |
| 19:51.01 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@ip90-6-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 19:51.02 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@unaffiliated/stefandevries) |
| 19:51.02 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: it's the same with LANG=C |
| 19:51.30 | th0r | npx: if you want leading edge you should consider another distro |
| 19:51.51 | npx | th0r, I don't want leading edge at all, I just want a handful of newer packages that are really necessary for me to work |
| 19:52.18 | babilen | npx: Which packages are those? |
| 19:52.22 | dvs | npx: then /opt would be the right place to put them |
| 19:52.31 | seb82 | wots up TrueDD? |
| 19:52.37 | seb82 | hey babilen |
| 19:53.13 | TrueDD | seb82, nothing special, what about you? |
| 19:53.27 | npx | babilen, rvm takes care of ruby runtimes pretty effectively, but I also need Google's V8 engine, Java 7, and a few others |
| 19:53.27 | thewanderer1 | oh, it was locale settings after all |
| 19:53.32 | seb82 | just some issues with my laptop... like sound not working anymore... |
| 19:53.40 | thewanderer1 | it turns out that I don't know what my locale treats as a valid date, lulz |
| 19:53.43 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 19:54.12 | Amarande | hmm, just translate it into a unix time, wouldn't that always work? |
| 19:54.15 | npx | I don't have any problem just manually installing stuff into /opt or /usr/local or managing alternatives, I just thought that maybe this sort of thing was common enough that there was some cleaner/easier way to do it |
| 19:54.19 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@mail.safeformat.com) |
| 19:54.19 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar) |
| 19:54.43 | dvs | npx: nah, you pretty much covered it. |
| 19:55.03 | TrueDD | seb82, which version of Debian does it run? |
| 19:55.35 | jelly-home | npx: for things that Debian can redstribute, sometimes there are /msg dpkg backports |
| 19:55.36 | seb82 | TrueDD, Debian squeeze... |
| 19:55.38 | peterrooney | npx: look into backports |
| 19:55.42 | seb82 | sound worked fine until this morning |
| 19:55.47 | peterrooney | !bdo |
| 19:55.47 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <bdo key> <backports-sloppy> <bdo xorg>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 19:55.50 | seb82 | when starting gnome... the apllet crashed |
| 19:55.51 | jelly-home | Java ceased to be one such thing |
| 19:56.06 | npx | =( I thought they finally resolved the Java licensing? |
| 19:56.10 | babilen | npx: You have multiple options: You can install software from upstream manually. For languages like Python or Ruby you can often easily manage modules locally with tools like pip etc, Java could be installed to /usr/local or /opt -- That will get you so far, but might be a pain in the arse after a while. Another alternative would be to run wheezy/sid which will mean more administration and an unstable platform, but access to newer packages. |
| 19:56.38 | babilen | npx: A third option is to develop in virtual machines or chroots |
| 19:56.50 | npx | Yeah I really don't want any kernel upgrades or major UI upgrades for a long time, I'm really used to this Gnome 2.3 setup and all my apps |
| 19:56.57 | npx | and it all works perfectly |
| 19:57.09 | *** join/#debian nice (~sad@77.81.1.213) |
| 19:57.25 | *** part/#debian qrq (~eri@bsy188.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:57.26 | npx | I'll probably use virtualbox |
| 19:57.44 | thewanderer1 | npx: a chroot would be enough |
| 19:57.53 | *** join/#debian Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) |
| 19:58.00 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@202.36.179.68) |
| 19:58.40 | TrueDD | seb82, it's happened like that, suddenly? |
| 19:58.50 | npx | the upshot of a virtualbox VM is that I can move it around easily |
| 19:58.50 | seb82 | yes, out of the blue |
| 19:58.54 | babilen | npx: If you opt for the first approach tools like stow might come in handy, but virtualbox/kvm (with virt-manager) might be a good option. chroots are most likely easier. debootstrap/schroot are worth a look for that |
| 19:58.59 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av1-84-91-22-6.netvisao.pt) |
| 19:59.06 | nice | hi |
| 19:59.09 | TrueDD | seb82, or after some upgrade? |
| 19:59.18 | nice | i need a psybnc |
| 19:59.22 | TrueDD | hi, nice |
| 19:59.24 | seb82 | no just out of the blue |
| 19:59.28 | npx | babilen, yeah I was kinda thinking KVM - is there any easy way now to run virtualbox completely headless? googling it |
| 19:59.42 | TrueDD | seb82, weird ... |
| 19:59.44 | *** join/#debian BlueG (~blue@c-68-60-20-112.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 19:59.47 | npx | i'd just like it to start as a service and start my VM in the background, that would be perfect |
| 20:00.25 | babilen | npx: I personally use kvm not vbox, but I would be surprised if not. |
| 20:00.36 | TrueDD | seb82, have you tried either to reinstall or to reconfigure alsa? |
| 20:00.39 | *** join/#debian acu (~acu@68-115-83-31.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 20:00.44 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-74-76-254-36.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 20:00.51 | seb82 | TrueeDD, yuppers,.... no avail |
| 20:02.00 | acu | what is the best Local Area Network diagram and documentation Open Source software (Dia is a bit too primitive and Visio is Proprietary) |
| 20:02.03 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99.196.216.51) |
| 20:02.32 | npx | acu, I'm pretty sure nessus has some good visualization plugins |
| 20:02.47 | thewanderer1 | acu: roll your own using HTML5 canvas and a bit of JS :) |
| 20:02.49 | npx | probably something using graphviz or the like |
| 20:03.10 | npx | oh, i think i misunderstood you |
| 20:03.13 | thewanderer1 | I actually had a half-baked network graphing tool but it got lost somewhere |
| 20:03.15 | seb82 | just retrying reinstall again... but got a a feeling it will break me system |
| 20:04.08 | seb82 | erm... a lot of stuff including gnome stuff is being removed... |
| 20:04.18 | seb82 | all I did was a aptitude reinstall alsa... |
| 20:04.38 | TrueDD | seb82, how come? your dependencies tree is broken? |
| 20:04.38 | seb82 | erm... gdm3 is being removed? |
| 20:04.44 | seb82 | no clue |
| 20:04.54 | TrueDD | oh .., I see |
| 20:04.55 | seb82 | owkay.. |
| 20:05.40 | seb82 | erm... gnome is being removed completly but I'm still running it... |
| 20:06.27 | npx | this is pretty cool... i didn't realize virtualbox supported migrating running vms |
| 20:06.28 | seb82 | this doesn't look good... |
| 20:07.00 | seb82 | erm now wot? |
| 20:07.20 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 20:07.22 | npx | i wonder if i can put together udev rules to automigrate my vm to a server depending on my wireless essid |
| 20:07.23 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 20:08.05 | seb82 | there goes vbox... argh... |
| 20:08.36 | TrueDD | seb82, have you tried a dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 20:09.01 | seb82 | it's still removing most of my system... |
| 20:10.02 | seb82 | if I get disconnected and you don't see me back... I'll try to get on with another pc... |
| 20:10.10 | seb82 | now it's reinstalling alsa... |
| 20:10.19 | *** join/#debian antgel (~topdog@bzq-84-110-4-118.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 20:10.46 | seb82 | I suppose when I reboot... gnome is gone? |
| 20:10.52 | *** join/#debian xf_merc (~sollux@host86-156-37-27.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:11.03 | TrueDD | seb82, I guess so |
| 20:11.17 | seb82 | brb |
| 20:11.33 | TrueDD | see ya |
| 20:11.44 | TrueDD | good luck |
| 20:11.59 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ4 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.248.112) |
| 20:12.43 | *** join/#debian Rodjer (~oddgeir@134.79-160-142.customer.lyse.net) |
| 20:13.33 | *** join/#debian arkaitzj (~arkaitzj@46.7.107.22) |
| 20:13.41 | arkaitzj | Hi |
| 20:13.46 | *** join/#debian seb82_1 (~mmdv@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 20:13.50 | *** join/#debian llua` (~llua@99-8-171-24.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:13.56 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ5 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.130.80) |
| 20:14.18 | arkaitzj | Could anybody with a squeeze do an "apt-get install collectd" and see if it starts straight away? it fails to install on a fresh system for me |
| 20:14.32 | *** join/#debian Rajsun (~rajasun@bb219-75-98-170.singnet.com.sg) |
| 20:14.53 | seb82_1 | Hey TrueDD it's me seb82 |
| 20:15.00 | seb82_1 | gdm3 is lost |
| 20:15.02 | arkaitzj | looks like the config that is being shipped does not work so the initial" /etc/init.d/collectd start" fails and the package remains as failed to install |
| 20:15.23 | *** join/#debian zdomjus (~chatzilla@151.95.100.184) |
| 20:15.33 | thewanderer1 | is there an easy tool for converting hex like this to string? 706870202F73727 |
| 20:15.39 | seb82_1 | gnome is still in the game so far so good... |
| 20:15.40 | TrueDD | seb82_1, oh ... too bad, though I think you can always reinstall it |
| 20:15.42 | thewanderer1 | I don't feel like writing a script now |
| 20:15.48 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 20:16.19 | TrueDD | seb82_1, don't ya? |
| 20:16.29 | xf_merc | arkaitzj: Trying, you owe me 12 megs of internets :P |
| 20:16.38 | seb82_1 | TrueDD, I will straight away... |
| 20:16.39 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: I think kcalc will do it. Oh, you want ASCII? |
| 20:16.53 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins: possibly... it might contain UTF-8 maybe |
| 20:16.56 | seb82_1 | funny I saw it remove the files for gnome but gnome still works... |
| 20:17.06 | arkaitzj | xf_merc, do u accept the payment in beers? |
| 20:17.17 | *** part/#debian zdomjus (~chatzilla@151.95.100.184) |
| 20:17.23 | xf_merc | arkaitzj: Heh, I wish. |
| 20:17.44 | seb82_1 | but still no sound |
| 20:17.57 | npx | I'm so happy to finally have a really good usable stable release of debian |
| 20:18.03 | TrueDD | seb82_1, probably only many unused files have been removed ... |
| 20:18.07 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@ip90-6-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 20:18.07 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@unaffiliated/stefandevries) |
| 20:18.15 | thewanderer1 | oh well, time to start recalling C... |
| 20:18.31 | seb82_1 | no it removed it all... up to 700 mb of programs... |
| 20:18.40 | thewanderer1 | I don't know why ausearch would not decode that for me |
| 20:18.46 | seb82_1 | so I thinks it's openbox-gnome it's running with... |
| 20:19.00 | xf_merc | arkaitzj: Installs okay, warns about not finding /etc/collectd/collectd.conf, but it configures fine and the daemon starts up. Must be your system. |
| 20:19.16 | arkaitzj | weird |
| 20:19.26 | seb82_1 | but like I said... sound is still not up... |
| 20:19.32 | arkaitzj | its a fresh debootstrap deployed in EC2 |
| 20:19.36 | xf_merc | arkaitzj: This is AMD64 though |
| 20:20.10 | arkaitzj | xf_merc: could you tell me if your /etc/collectd/collectd.conf has the hostname line commented? |
| 20:20.15 | arkaitzj | its like the first line for me |
| 20:20.23 | arkaitzj | if I uncomment it it starts |
| 20:20.52 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:21.22 | seb82_1 | good news... my headset is broken... sounds seems to working... with glitches... |
| 20:21.40 | xf_merc | arkaitzj: Here's the whole thing http://pastebin.com/S11hepXh |
| 20:21.41 | TrueDD | seb82_1, what does it look like? I mean, does it look as if it worked but no sound can be heard? or do you get any error message, or so? |
| 20:21.54 | TrueDD | seb82_1, great! |
| 20:21.57 | arkaitzj | ok, thanks a lot xf_merc |
| 20:22.01 | seb82_1 | no message... someone touched my . |
| 20:22.04 | seb82_1 | my headset |
| 20:22.07 | arkaitzj | I'll try figuring out whats going on |
| 20:22.12 | seb82_1 | the plugs were wrong... lol |
| 20:22.12 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@bband-dyn99.178-41-13.t-com.sk) |
| 20:22.16 | xf_merc | seb82_1: Would this happen to be on a HD2? ;) |
| 20:22.22 | TrueDD | seb82_1, LOL |
| 20:22.24 | seb82_1 | no on my laptop |
| 20:22.30 | seb82_1 | my hd2 is dead... |
| 20:22.39 | seb82_1 | well the touchscreen is... |
| 20:22.45 | xf_merc | seb82_1: Ahh, okay. |
| 20:22.56 | seb82_1 | xf_merc I'm currently stuck with a HTC Touch Elf... |
| 20:23.14 | seb82_1 | and next week I'll have my HTC Touch Diamond 1 back in the game... |
| 20:23.20 | seb82_1 | so that means android again! |
| 20:24.55 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 20:28.22 | *** join/#debian eikenberry (~jae@c-24-22-0-175.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 20:29.17 | *** join/#debian vsmatck (~smack@64-142-40-6.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 20:29.19 | *** join/#debian Coornail (~Coornail@li66-97.members.linode.com) |
| 20:31.28 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@40-26-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 20:32.05 | arkaitzj | xf_merc: thanks for the help, ruling out weird configuration file helped me finding that collectd fails siltently when ur hostname is not in /etc/hosts and cannot be resolved |
| 20:32.18 | arkaitzj | it just sent a line to syslog and died |
| 20:32.27 | arkaitzj | didn't look at syslog though |
| 20:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1111] by debhelper |
| 20:34.02 | vsmatck | Hm. Trying to setup krb5-kdc for the first time. /etc/init.d/krb5-kdc fails and the log shows "No such file or directory - while initializing database for realm HOME". |
| 20:34.30 | *** join/#debian junix659 (~junix@71-14-78-90.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 20:34.31 | *** join/#debian p_quarles (~pquarles@unaffiliated/pquarles) |
| 20:35.00 | vsmatck | I wonder if it's talking about this "/var/lib/krb5kdc/principal" |
| 20:35.08 | junix659 | has anyone isntalled SSH server from testing yet? I need to get possibly look into privilege separation... |
| 20:35.43 | seb82_1 | xf_merc, wot about you |
| 20:36.36 | *** join/#debian rosalinda (~fff@85.103.216.129) |
| 20:36.40 | *** part/#debian rosalinda (~fff@85.103.216.129) |
| 20:36.57 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@40-26-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 20:39.42 | *** join/#debian xt_ (~xt_@pool-74-97-16-212.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:39.56 | *** join/#debian fredden (~fredden@e2dan.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 20:40.05 | *** part/#debian xt_ (~xt_@pool-74-97-16-212.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:40.33 | vsmatck | oh, I figured it out. Got to install krb5-admin-server and run krb5_newrealm. |
| 20:40.33 | *** join/#debian fredden (~fredden@unaffiliated/fredden) |
| 20:40.33 | *** join/#debian pquarles (~pquarles@unaffiliated/pquarles) |
| 20:40.54 | *** join/#debian batrick (~batrick@nmap/developer/batrick) |
| 20:41.00 | vsmatck | and... she starts. :) |
| 20:41.53 | seb82_1 | almost back in track ... with gnome |
| 20:42.18 | seb82_1 | whouhoo @ vsmatck |
| 20:43.07 | monotux | has anyone tried to install slimgem (the ruby-gem replacement)? the installation is complaining that I don't have rake1.8 installed (but I have 'apt-get install rake' just fine) |
| 20:43.32 | seb82_1 | monotux... wot version was installed? |
| 20:43.34 | icarious | i am using openbox. however the gtk applications have this ugly grey theme and not utilizing the gtk2-engines . any solutions ? |
| 20:43.35 | xf_merc | Why is my GDM not starting, even though it is symlinked under rc2.d as S22gdm? |
| 20:43.49 | xf_merc | (And yes the default runlevel is level 2) |
| 20:44.07 | seb82_1 | xf_merc have ya tried dkpkg-reconfigure gdm? |
| 20:46.28 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 20:47.13 | *** join/#debian techieee (75e28900@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.226.137.0) |
| 20:47.38 | xf_merc | seb82_1: That was my next plan, it worked though! |
| 20:47.52 | seb82_1 | kk cool |
| 20:48.04 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:48.19 | *** join/#debian krux (~krux@72.186.134.221) |
| 20:48.27 | seb82_1 | hey centrino |
| 20:48.31 | monotux | seb82_1: 0.8.2, and ruby is at 1.8 |
| 20:48.33 | thewanderer1 | is there perhaps a friendly user interface to the audit tools? I mean something less spartan than ausearch... |
| 20:48.33 | seb82_1 | how did things work out with the firmware? |
| 20:48.43 | monotux | seb82_1: so I'm guessing a alias rake <-> rake1.8 is missing |
| 20:49.07 | seb82_1 | try looking it up on google and install it manually |
| 20:49.11 | centrino | seb82_1: the wireless card is not the problem. |
| 20:49.22 | seb82_1 | centrino: wot is then? |
| 20:49.40 | monotux | seb82_1: been there done that etc |
| 20:49.55 | seb82_1 | monotux: and wot? |
| 20:49.58 | centrino | i edited the grub.cfg of w32-loader and omitted "--quiet" in the linux entry |
| 20:50.22 | *** join/#debian deal (~dealer@82.80-202-194.nextgentel.com) |
| 20:50.27 | centrino | now, i see that the boot process really continues after the firmware has not been found |
| 20:50.40 | seb82_1 | good... so it's now running debian? |
| 20:50.42 | centrino | the is a lot of stuff being detected after that |
| 20:50.47 | seb82_1 | cool |
| 20:50.54 | *** join/#debian aef (~quassel@neoschlageter.raxys.net) |
| 20:50.55 | centrino | no it's not running |
| 20:51.11 | seb82_1 | ah 2 bad... |
| 20:51.11 | monotux | and I came here since I couldn't find anything similar on the net |
| 20:51.16 | *** join/#debian luminoso_ (~lumos@av1-84-91-22-6.netvisao.pt) |
| 20:51.19 | centrino | i get a black screen after "Starting system log deamon..." |
| 20:51.21 | seb82_1 | monotux I see.. |
| 20:51.33 | centrino | this is the same error as before |
| 20:51.39 | *** join/#debian chasing`Sol (~cS@smtp.master-zone.net) |
| 20:51.54 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 20:51.55 | *** join/#debian gp2k (~gmporter@ip68-107-89-168.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 20:51.55 | seb82_1 | owkay |
| 20:52.18 | *** join/#debian astartoth (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 20:52.30 | centrino | there are some things flashing up in the console, but i canot stop the process and read the messages by pressing Ctrl+S. |
| 20:52.39 | seb82_1 | monotux, have you tried install ruby1.8? |
| 20:52.48 | seb82_1 | as in apt-get install ruby1.8 ? |
| 20:53.07 | seb82_1 | centrino have you installed debian? |
| 20:53.31 | centrino | no, the installation fails, or just doesn't continue forever |
| 20:53.50 | seb82_1 | I see... |
| 20:54.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1104] by debhelper |
| 20:54.23 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@97-120-76-173.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 20:54.23 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 20:54.30 | centrino | shouldn't I be able to force grub to use a minimal set of functions to test the installation? |
| 20:54.38 | seb82_1 | don't think so |
| 20:54.52 | centrino | but i can edit grub.cfg |
| 20:55.13 | centrino | isn't there something like a safe mode? |
| 20:55.21 | seb82_1 | there is... |
| 20:55.28 | seb82_1 | just a sec... |
| 20:55.46 | centrino | the problem there is, i think, that it does not allow networking. |
| 20:56.27 | *** join/#debian trumpen (~trumpen@unaffiliated/trumpen) |
| 20:56.31 | seb82_1 | I'm not sure... |
| 20:56.48 | somiaj | init=1 or something like that, its single user runlevel |
| 20:57.11 | thewanderer1 | "single" boot option |
| 20:57.13 | centrino | i need a parameter that i can attach t the line in grub.cfg |
| 20:57.14 | seb82_1 | somiaj, thx |
| 20:57.24 | centrino | i don't have aboot menu |
| 20:57.46 | *** join/#debian vlyalcin (~volkan@78.135.20.254) |
| 20:57.51 | *** join/#debian cicerone (5d287d18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.40.125.24) |
| 20:58.06 | *** join/#debian mkunze (~mk@port-92-205-151-68.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 20:58.15 | centrino | right now things look like this: linux/win32-loader/linux video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=788 |
| 20:58.17 | vlyalcin | hii, how can i create a file (whcih is not exist) with patch |
| 20:58.31 | *** join/#debian rtr- (~rtr@41.223.52.177) |
| 20:58.42 | seb82_1 | centrino could you past your grub.cfg on paste.debian.net? |
| 20:58.47 | centrino | ok |
| 20:58.48 | seb82_1 | I think I might have a lead to work with |
| 20:58.54 | centrino | nice |
| 20:58.58 | monotux | seb82_1: yes. with a symlink I think I've got it working now anyways |
| 20:59.08 | PhoenixSTF | I am getting a lor of Emask errors and FPDMA queued on my WD 5000 AAKS hard Drive, any workarounds? |
| 20:59.48 | seb82_1 | kk get us updated monotux |
| 21:00.07 | centrino | http://paste.debian.net/132254/ |
| 21:00.14 | *** join/#debian JasonWoof (~JasonWoof@c-76-119-103-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:00.14 | *** join/#debian JasonWoof (~JasonWoof@fsf/member/herkamire) |
| 21:00.19 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 21:01.03 | *** join/#debian HazardX (~HazardX3@96.237.180.99) |
| 21:01.19 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@202.36.179.68) |
| 21:01.59 | *** join/#debian Xizor (~Xizor@aqu33-7-78-232-32-5.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:02.01 | seb82_1 | centrino, trying adding 'single' (without quotes) to the end of the /win32-loader/linux line |
| 21:02.06 | *** join/#debian astartoth (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 21:02.17 | centrino | ok |
| 21:02.43 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.149.132) |
| 21:02.51 | PhoenixSTF | does anyone have issues with WD5000aaks hdds? i am haveing a rough time with myne and its busting my raid, (softreset failed, Emask error, PHY RDY changed) The drive works fine under windows, passes on all tests, and already clean it full of zeros! |
| 21:03.10 | centrino | i think it has to be "-- single". because: |
| 21:03.11 | *** join/#debian muchikon (~chatzilla@190.145.92.21) |
| 21:03.12 | PhoenixSTF | *mine |
| 21:03.19 | seb82_1 | how big is it PhoenixSTF? |
| 21:03.36 | seb82_1 | centrino, yeah it's possible... I justed checked out my grub.cfg |
| 21:03.37 | wols_ | as the model number shows: 500GB |
| 21:03.37 | centrino | when i ommitted the "quiet" option, there were two - and a white space before that too |
| 21:03.38 | PhoenixSTF | seb82_1, my raid 5 is 4hdd |
| 21:03.57 | *** join/#debian jsmartin_ (~jsmartin@173-28-54-165.client.mchsi.com) |
| 21:03.59 | PhoenixSTF | 2 seagates, 2 wd |
| 21:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1112] by debhelper |
| 21:04.01 | centrino | i'll simply try things out and come back then |
| 21:04.08 | *** join/#debian Evixion` (~Evixion@67.235.67.80) |
| 21:04.18 | seb82_1 | sure good luck centrino |
| 21:04.23 | *** part/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:04.26 | PhoenixSTF | the other wd works fine but it is a caviar green.... |
| 21:04.55 | seb82_1 | that could be the issue... raid sometimes requires 2 identical drives |
| 21:05.02 | *** join/#debian junix (~junix@71-14-78-90.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 21:05.22 | *** join/#debian Genji__ (~Genji@112.202.50.119) |
| 21:05.40 | PhoenixSTF | seb82_1, its raid software mdadm |
| 21:06.04 | wols_ | seb82_1: it does not |
| 21:06.20 | seb82_1 | wols_ just saying wot I read somewhere |
| 21:06.30 | *** join/#debian pdtpatrick (~pdtpdt@mainstwan.farheap.com) |
| 21:06.31 | wols_ | don't read so much then |
| 21:06.33 | *** join/#debian ScottG (~scott@pool-71-164-122-112.albyny.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:06.38 | seb82_1 | lol @ wols_ |
| 21:06.43 | PhoenixSTF | Failed command: WRITE DMA EXT |
| 21:07.01 | *** join/#debian rtr- (~rtr@41.223.52.177) |
| 21:07.08 | *** part/#debian vlyalcin (~volkan@78.135.20.254) |
| 21:07.09 | PhoenixSTF | either my hdd is busted or debian and wd dont get allong |
| 21:07.20 | dvs | ha! |
| 21:07.21 | seb82_1 | PhoenixSTF have you tried turning on or off DMA? |
| 21:07.46 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ6 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.204.232) |
| 21:07.47 | *** part/#debian owen1 (~oren@cpe-76-172-9-207.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:07.48 | PhoenixSTF | seb82_1, tell me how to pls :) |
| 21:07.52 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: What sort of HD is it? IDE? |
| 21:07.53 | *** join/#debian gamer1990_4 (~znc@bankai-hosting.com) |
| 21:08.05 | seb82_1 | PhoenixSTF, not sure... I was only suggesting... |
| 21:08.16 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, sata |
| 21:09.22 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Hm, so unlikely to be too old for DMA, but SATA rules are different. |
| 21:09.33 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Does this happen intermittently or is the drive unusuable? |
| 21:09.37 | seb82_1 | brb need to reboot debian |
| 21:09.59 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, when i am trying to use the drive (write/read) |
| 21:10.02 | *** part/#debian techieee (75e28900@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.226.137.0) |
| 21:10.03 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: hdparm to turn DMA on/off, but read the manpage for details. |
| 21:10.16 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Are you able to use it at all? |
| 21:10.29 | *** join/#debian gamer1990 (~znc@bankai-hosting.com) |
| 21:10.54 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, i can do stuff on it but its very slow full of errors |
| 21:11.00 | seb82_1 | guys I'm suddenly udev messages during boot... about something sysfs{} |
| 21:11.03 | jhutchins_lt | SATA connectors are notoriously hard to keep tight/secure. |
| 21:11.14 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:11.16 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: So it's consistent, not intermittent. |
| 21:11.19 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, changed the cable 3 times |
| 21:11.20 | seb82_1 | thx for stepping in jhutchins_lt... |
| 21:11.37 | centrino | no success here, but... |
| 21:11.42 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, yes everytime i work with the drive is errors out |
| 21:11.50 | seb82_1 | but wot centrino? |
| 21:12.00 | *** join/#debian janis (~jan1s@178-117-13.dynamic.cyta.gr) |
| 21:12.13 | centrino | i looked at what happens again and i think it reminds me of a graphic card problem i once had with another aptop |
| 21:12.19 | janis | hi guys! how can i add pam_mkhomedir without breaking pam-auth-update? |
| 21:12.30 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 21:12.57 | seb82_1 | just a sec centrino... I'll try looking into the specs... |
| 21:13.00 | centrino | i think, i will check out different graphic card options with grub.cfg |
| 21:13.00 | Aziroshin | Hey :o |
| 21:13.06 | *** join/#debian Nik0s (~Nik05@s5377b589.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 21:13.07 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Ok, so it's either failed already or just doesn't get along with Debian. |
| 21:13.33 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 21:13.36 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: I would suggest you try booting to a live CD with a significantly different kernel, like a non-debian derived one. |
| 21:13.38 | seb82_1 | centrino, try vga=771 |
| 21:13.44 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Ubuntu might be different enough. |
| 21:13.46 | centrino | ok. thanks a lot |
| 21:13.49 | seb82_1 | np |
| 21:13.52 | Aziroshin | I have installed xfce4-xfapplet-plugin and network-manager-gnome. However, the network manager doesn't show up in the xfapplet properties, in fact ,the list is empty. |
| 21:13.53 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, thats the thing i did put it on windows and ran the WD tools and did a full 2 hour smart test, all OK |
| 21:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1101] by debhelper |
| 21:14.06 | Aziroshin | The ultimate goal is to have a systray application to manage wlan connections. |
| 21:14.15 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Ok, then we have driver incompatibility. |
| 21:14.18 | Aziroshin | (with xfce) |
| 21:14.39 | centrino | what about ywrap and mtrr? |
| 21:14.39 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: You can either research the chipset for the SATA controller and find what it needs, or blindly try a different kernel. |
| 21:14.52 | seb82_1 | just leave 'm for now centrino |
| 21:14.55 | centrino | ok |
| 21:15.00 | *** join/#debian hje841 (~hje841@gateway.abk-aalborg.dk) |
| 21:15.02 | *** part/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:15.12 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 21:15.13 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, problably a older version of debian anyway i can get it to boot from an older one? |
| 21:15.17 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: lspci -nn and get the pci id for the chipset and we can see what judd says. |
| 21:15.42 | seb82_1 | how could I install a new debian install to an external drive when the burned netinstall-cd has issues? |
| 21:16.01 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Is this actually a Debian system or is it the one you're on now? |
| 21:16.25 | *** join/#debian xf_merc (~sollux@host86-156-37-27.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:16.30 | hje841 | has anybody any experience with Gnome 3 on Debian ? Any downsides compared to 2.3 |
| 21:16.47 | dvs | hje841: yeah, gnome 3. |
| 21:16.48 | *** join/#debian gamer1990 (~znc@unaffiliated/gamer1990) |
| 21:16.48 | jhutchins_lt | hje841: Yes, it's not finished yet and only available in unstable. |
| 21:16.49 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, its my server, its on debian 6 |
| 21:16.51 | jhutchins_lt | !gnome3 |
| 21:16.52 | dpkg | GNOME 3 is the new and not yet complete version of the GNOME desktop environment. Bits of it are starting to work their way into Debian unstable at the moment and wheezy will release with it. See http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html for details. Also ask me about <install gnome>, <gnome-shell>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/04/msg00111.html |
| 21:17.02 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@bl10-118-113.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 21:17.07 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Which kernel? Default? |
| 21:17.29 | PhoenixSTF | 2.6.**.11 |
| 21:17.36 | PhoenixSTF | 00:12.0 SATA controller [0106]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA [1002:4380] |
| 21:17.44 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: The ** makes all the difference. |
| 21:17.59 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, its the latest one on debian 6 |
| 21:18.04 | jhutchins_lt | ,pciid 1002:4380 |
| 21:18.07 | judd | [1002:4380] is 'SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel modules 'ahci', 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:4380 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 21:18.08 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 21:18.10 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); wheezy: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35squeeze2); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny4) |
| 21:18.32 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432880.home.otenet.gr) |
| 21:18.38 | hje841 | dpkg: what's the bare minimum you should install to get a feel for it? Gnome 3 that is |
| 21:18.39 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, hje841 |
| 21:18.52 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 21:19.16 | *** join/#debian Kazen (~Kazen@541F9A12.cm-5-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 21:19.21 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: I'd go ahead and try .39 from backports. See http://backports.debian.org for instructions. |
| 21:19.24 | seb82_1 | hje841 you could better install testing/unstable in vbox if you must try |
| 21:19.29 | *** join/#debian cemiotic (~io@unaffiliated/cemiotic) |
| 21:19.29 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 21:19.42 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:19.44 | PhoenixSTF | ok then |
| 21:19.54 | hje841 | seb82_1: thanks. |
| 21:20.00 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, do you recomend everything from backports? |
| 21:20.15 | seb82_1 | np hje841... in that case when stuff breaks... you don't break your os completly |
| 21:20.17 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Nothing scientific to that, about the same as flipping the power on and off a few times. |
| 21:20.24 | *** join/#debian fhtagn (~fhtagn@unaffiliated/fhtagn) |
| 21:20.32 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: No, backports is set up to only install selected packages. |
| 21:20.34 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ7 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.214.255) |
| 21:20.43 | hje841 | seb82_1: true. :) |
| 21:20.47 | *** part/#debian fhtagn (~fhtagn@unaffiliated/fhtagn) |
| 21:20.52 | seb82_1 | good luck hje841 |
| 21:21.19 | *** join/#debian h2n2 (~ral@c-50-131-134-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:21.44 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 21:21.48 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: The other thing is to search the forums and websites for reports of people using that chipset. It's more likely an issue with the controller than with the drive. |
| 21:21.53 | hje841 | seb82_1: maybe I'll try it on at some point. just wanted to get a feel of it. any idea on when it will be ready? I need an alternative to Ubuntu as I don't like Unity |
| 21:22.02 | *** join/#debian luke-jr (~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:222:4dff:fe50:4c49) |
| 21:22.03 | *** join/#debian Sinani201 (~daniel@cpe-76-90-4-120.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:22.08 | luke-jr | why is http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_3.5.16-9 missing? |
| 21:22.26 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ8 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.217.115) |
| 21:22.37 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions iceweasel |
| 21:22.39 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-6; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-8~bpo50+1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-8; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-9; sid: 6.0.2-1; wheezy: 6.0.2-1; experimental: 7.0~b6-1 |
| 21:22.58 | seb82_1 | dunno... you could always try to create someting similiar... my gnome looks like win7... just for the kick... |
| 21:23.23 | *** join/#debian killbillkill (~bill@adsl-103.109.242.155.tellas.gr) |
| 21:23.26 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, problably something between the controler and the hdd |
| 21:23.34 | jhutchins_lt | luke-jr: is it present in the package? |
| 21:23.37 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, going to try and change to another controler |
| 21:23.48 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, fortunatly i have more |
| 21:23.52 | luke-jr | jhutchins_lt: aptitude just upgraded me to it |
| 21:23.55 | h2n2 | Hey All. Is there a relatively easy way to fine tune fonts beyond the basic fontconfig/conf.avail/dpi/hinting settings? My problem is I am running Conolas in sid and everything is cool except the font is a touch oblong. Any advice? |
| 21:23.57 | hje841 | seb82_1: that would require a full weekend of fiddleing :) |
| 21:24.02 | *** join/#debian reisio (~reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) |
| 21:24.09 | seb82_1 | hje841: not if someone did it for ya... |
| 21:24.10 | *** join/#debian josef__ (~josef@188-194-63-116-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 21:24.16 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: If it were the hdd, windows would have had trouble with it too. By the time the OS sees the device it's pretty completely abstracted. |
| 21:24.20 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 21:24.37 | hje841 | seb82_1: hehe.. true. do you have a complete image I could plug in? :) |
| 21:24.46 | jhutchins_lt | luke-jr: It should have had a changelog in the package then. |
| 21:24.54 | luke-jr | oh, good idea |
| 21:25.01 | seb82_1 | already looking for ya... |
| 21:25.03 | jhutchins_lt | luke-jr: Being a security update it could be a rush job though. |
| 21:25.04 | seb82_1 | are ya running gnome? |
| 21:25.24 | jhutchins_lt | luke-jr: I'm running 6 from mdn here. |
| 21:25.29 | hje841 | seb82_1: currently I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 with Gnome |
| 21:25.40 | *** join/#debian kaueraal (~alexander@p5B174ACF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:25.53 | seb82_1 | kk cool |
| 21:25.58 | reisio | is there not a well-populated channel relating to Debian hardening? |
| 21:26.27 | jhutchins_lt | reisio: That's a howto/forum thing, not an irc topic. |
| 21:26.38 | seb82_1 | hje841 wot versio are ya running? |
| 21:27.17 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, ok got it pluged on my silicon image controler and...... same thing |
| 21:27.32 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Now that is strange. |
| 21:27.36 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, no more wd for me! |
| 21:28.05 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-24-4-180-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:28.19 | hje841 | seb82_1: Gnome 2.32.0 |
| 21:28.25 | *** join/#debian rage7 (~rage@AAmiens-157-1-75-34.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:28.28 | *** join/#debian JasonWoof (~JasonWoof@c-76-119-103-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:28.28 | *** join/#debian JasonWoof (~JasonWoof@fsf/member/herkamire) |
| 21:28.34 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, emask, write fpdma queued |
| 21:28.48 | seb82_1 | kk thx |
| 21:28.50 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, DRDY DF ERR |
| 21:29.17 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, i had a friend that changed a wd 500 caviar blue 3 times, |
| 21:29.18 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Try .39 |
| 21:29.20 | *** join/#debian LegalEagle (~chip@pdpc/supporter/student/legaleagle) |
| 21:29.36 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, I am starting to hate WD |
| 21:29.45 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, I am starting to hate WDok going to try .39 |
| 21:29.54 | *** join/#debian natali (~fff@85.103.216.129) |
| 21:30.05 | reisio | jhutchins_lt: point me to it? |
| 21:30.15 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 21:31.40 | Sinani201 | hi everyone, i'm in the debian installer and I have some nonfree firmware that I need to put on (it is in my flashdrive), but there is no /lib/firmware folder to put it in, where should I put it |
| 21:31.59 | xf_merc | Is there a way to install kde3 on squeeze? |
| 21:32.08 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net) |
| 21:32.14 | seb82_1 | hje841: I've send ya private with a link |
| 21:32.20 | PhoenixSTF | only 2 types of hdd never gave issues, Seagate and Samsung..... |
| 21:32.32 | *** part/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 21:32.33 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 21:32.52 | Woet | someone might want to ban natali, on join spam |
| 21:33.29 | *** join/#debian freaky[t] (alpha@freakyonline.de) |
| 21:33.31 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, I have to install this linux-headers-2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64? |
| 21:33.36 | *** part/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 21:33.42 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 21:33.51 | dvs | PhoenixSTF: image |
| 21:34.00 | PhoenixSTF | ok |
| 21:34.26 | hje841 | seb82_1: thanks. I'll take a look at it when I get the chance :) |
| 21:34.33 | PhoenixSTF | Depends: linux-base (>= 3~) but 2.6.32-35squeeze2 is to be installed |
| 21:34.42 | PhoenixSTF | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.43 | PhoenixSTF | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.49 | seb82_1 | kk good luck hje841 |
| 21:35.16 | seb82_1 | hje841, I think I'm gonna try it meselfs |
| 21:35.35 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-76-119-248-54.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:35.40 | themill | PhoenixSTF: what command is generating that output? |
| 21:35.55 | Sinani201 | [3~ |
| 21:36.05 | PhoenixSTF | themill, apt-get install linux-image-2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64 |
| 21:36.26 | seb82_1 | btw my gnome is back to normal now |
| 21:36.52 | jnix-notlookin | wc |
| 21:36.54 | *** part/#debian jnix-notlookin (~jnix@unaffiliated/jnix) |
| 21:37.09 | themill | PhoenixSTF: you need to tell apt to use squeeze-backports as the default repo when doing so. add "-t squeeze-backports" to the command. (note, using aptitude would normally just do the right thing anyway. |
| 21:37.12 | hje841 | seb82_1: I might need to figure out the architecture behind Gnome to figure out what are needed and what is not. Then I can strip it down completely and start a fresh |
| 21:37.13 | *** part/#debian Sinani201 (~daniel@cpe-76-90-4-120.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:37.49 | seb82_1 | hje841: or install debian via netinstall and do a basic install with only network support and build up from there... |
| 21:38.05 | PhoenixSTF | themill, ty m8 so next time aptitude |
| 21:38.15 | PhoenixSTF | dvs, ty |
| 21:38.25 | dvs | ??? |
| 21:38.30 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, thanks m8 lets see what hapens :) |
| 21:38.31 | hje841 | seb82_1: is there a like a metapackage to get the basics of Gnome? |
| 21:38.58 | *** join/#debian jeeves_moss (~jeeves@bas1-guelph22-1177694222.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:38.59 | jeeves_moss | is there a way I can thin out my configs and fix the "relay not premitted" errors that I'm getting? postconf -n=http://pastebin.com/JxyCMen3 http://pastebin.com/ENHnVqrT http://pastebin.com/M9F0tpNK |
| 21:39.03 | *** part/#debian luke-jr (~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:222:4dff:fe50:4c49) |
| 21:39.08 | hje841 | the netinstall might be the way. I've tried it a few times on other boxes |
| 21:39.09 | themill | hje841: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 21:39.09 | *** join/#debian LiohAu (~LiohAu@mur75-1-81-57-44-204.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:39.17 | seb82_1 | thx themill |
| 21:39.38 | seb82_1 | seb82_1 /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 21:39.49 | hje841 | dpkg: install gnome |
| 21:39.49 | dpkg | To install GNOME: install the 'gnome' package to install everything, 'gnome-desktop-environment' for GNOME as defined by upstream, 'gnome-core' for a bit less and 'gnome-session' for the basic components actually needed to run a GNOME session. You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 21:40.00 | *** join/#debian Strife89 (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) |
| 21:40.08 | reisio | jhutchins_lt: can I get the link to that hardened stuff you mentioned? |
| 21:40.22 | seb82_1 | I think gnome-session or gnome-core would suffiece fo rya |
| 21:40.53 | jhutchins_lt | reisio: This is a good (if general) one: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/TrinityOS/cHTML/TrinityOS-c.html |
| 21:41.12 | hje841 | argh.. my window manager is getting sluggish. any hints as to make it more reliable? |
| 21:41.30 | reisio | jhutchins_lt: but not Debian specific? |
| 21:41.34 | seb82_1 | which windowmanager are ya running? |
| 21:41.55 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net) |
| 21:41.59 | seb82_1 | is there a way to install emerald on debian? |
| 21:42.28 | hje841 | how do I figure out which window manager I'm using? |
| 21:42.29 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@91.191.20.15) |
| 21:42.29 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@unaffiliated/black-prince/x-4865215) |
| 21:42.42 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, no joy m8 |
| 21:42.55 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, I htink i am going to change the HDD |
| 21:42.57 | reisio | hje841: are you using GNOME? KDE? |
| 21:43.10 | hje841 | reisio: gnome - in Ubuntu 10.10 |
| 21:43.19 | reisio | seb82_1: I don't see it in the official repos, but there must be debs somewhere; and even if not you can always install from source |
| 21:43.32 | reisio | hje841: okay, so that's metacity still, IIRC |
| 21:43.36 | jhutchins_lt | PhoenixSTF: Let me know if that really makes the difference. I'll be surprised, but I learn new things all the time here. |
| 21:43.57 | reisio | hje841: what is your processor? How much ram do you have? |
| 21:44.06 | *** join/#debian olol85 (~olol85@s66-183-19-244.bc.hsia.telus.net) |
| 21:44.41 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 21:45.49 | hje841 | metacity --version -> 2.30.0 |
| 21:45.51 | hje841 | processor: Pentium DualCore T4300 @ 2.1GHz |
| 21:45.53 | hje841 | Memory 3.9 GiB |
| 21:45.55 | hje841 | Kernel 2.6.35-30 |
| 21:46.23 | Black_Prince | dpkg, ubuntu |
| 21:46.23 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 21:46.50 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, one thing i learn is that WD hdd have a lot of issues with some controlers under linux |
| 21:47.08 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, seagate... no problem |
| 21:47.39 | Black_Prince | has seagate baracuda hdd and has never had a problem |
| 21:47.59 | reisio | hje841: that should be enough to run Ubuntu's GNOME without being slow |
| 21:48.08 | *** join/#debian syslq (~syslq@91.185.207.168) |
| 21:48.12 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@adsl-108-210-212-253.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:48.12 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 21:48.16 | vsmatck | Just rebuilt my fileserver. Got a few 5900RPM seagates. They're working well so far. |
| 21:48.17 | reisio | hje841: check top/htop look for out of control processes |
| 21:48.27 | *** join/#debian s1_ (~sa@188.248.253.10) |
| 21:48.41 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, it give a lot of RAW EDID |
| 21:49.34 | hje841 | reisio: doesn't seems like t |
| 21:49.42 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:49.44 | m8 | PhoenixSTF, why no joy? |
| 21:50.01 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@103-182-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 21:50.06 | reisio | hje841: well if it's fast after a reboot and gradually becomes slower, it's almost certainly some process issue |
| 21:50.46 | hje841 | reisio: it's not slow when running. some times it just takes a while to start |
| 21:50.59 | centrino | ok, i think i'm getting nearer to the real problem with by installation. |
| 21:51.02 | reisio | hje841: you said the window manager was being slow |
| 21:51.16 | centrino | what happens is that i get a black screen while the installer boots up. |
| 21:51.23 | seb82_1 | wb centrino |
| 21:51.27 | seb82_1 | kk so... |
| 21:51.37 | hje841 | oh.. right. what I meant was that Nautilus some times takes a while to start |
| 21:51.43 | centrino | ok, i tried to edit the grub.cfg graphic options |
| 21:51.44 | hje841 | but I guess that's not for this forum |
| 21:51.53 | centrino | vga=771 was tried |
| 21:51.53 | reisio | hje841: just nautilus, or other apps? |
| 21:52.12 | centrino | grub told be: this is deprechiated |
| 21:52.14 | reisio | centrino: you could try using the framebuffer installer instead |
| 21:52.28 | centrino | ok, i used the newer gfxpayload=800x600 |
| 21:52.33 | hje841 | reisio: first and foremost nautilus, but just before gEdit was like that too |
| 21:52.53 | centrino | then i came accross the issue of kernel mode setting |
| 21:53.11 | centrino | what is the framebuffer instaler? |
| 21:53.38 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, ok i quit... ill buy a new hdd |
| 21:53.54 | seb82_1 | have you tried e.g. fb=true |
| 21:53.56 | centrino | well, i tried to deactivate KMS with the "nomodeset" option in grub.cfg |
| 21:54.12 | centrino | no, i did not try this |
| 21:54.17 | *** join/#debian yagoo (~askme@modemcable004.103-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:55.13 | centrino | ok, the line would look like that now: |
| 21:55.15 | centrino | linux/win32-loader/linux video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr gfxpayload=800x600 acpi=off nomodeset fb=true |
| 21:55.25 | centrino | does that make sense generally? |
| 21:55.36 | *** join/#debian astartoth_ (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 21:55.37 | seb82_1 | yeah... |
| 21:55.46 | centrino | ok |
| 21:55.49 | centrino | i'll try |
| 21:55.59 | hje841 | I'm off. thanks for all your input |
| 21:56.06 | *** part/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:56.08 | *** join/#debian Miss_Anthropie (~blob@gssn-5f757799.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:56.25 | seb82_1 | np |
| 21:56.28 | *** part/#debian reisio (~reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) |
| 21:56.32 | *** join/#debian OldParr (~wayuu@unaffiliated/oldparr) |
| 21:56.40 | *** join/#debian marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) |
| 21:56.49 | *** part/#debian hje841 (~hje841@gateway.abk-aalborg.dk) |
| 21:57.14 | OldParr | is there possibility of emulating Mac Osx in a linux host ? |
| 21:57.46 | *** join/#debian astartoth_ (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 21:57.55 | seb82_1 | you could try on vbox with a intel-based Mac OSX |
| 21:57.59 | Black_Prince | OSX? Is that os for powerpc? |
| 21:58.16 | Black_Prince | I've head that qemu could emulate processor ... If that's the case. |
| 21:58.17 | babilen | not necessarily |
| 21:58.48 | PerfDave | Older OS X will run on PPC only, middle-aged OS X will run on PPC and x86, new OS X will run only on x86 |
| 21:59.04 | *** join/#debian MrStein (~stein@93-103-187-9.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 21:59.29 | *** part/#debian MrStein (~stein@93-103-187-9.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 22:00.03 | *** join/#debian Kazen (~Kazen@541F9A12.cm-5-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 22:02.05 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432880.home.otenet.gr) |
| 22:03.10 | yagoo | Black_Prince, Lion is made for intel-only. |
| 22:03.58 | PhoenixSTF | is it possible to make a raid with raid 0? |
| 22:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1091] by debhelper |
| 22:04.12 | yagoo | Black_Prince, if you want linux on your macintosh that uses intel, you can check out refit.sf.net |
| 22:04.54 | seb82_1 | how can I update my gnome 2.30 to 2.32? |
| 22:04.58 | PhoenixSTF | ok i didnt explain very good, is it possible to do a software raid hdd and then do anotehr raid with a series of raids |
| 22:05.39 | *** join/#debian astartoth (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 22:07.31 | yagoo | PhoenixSTF, you can always put Bitnet and BBSes together to make your own internet, but the channels would be slow |
| 22:07.40 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-213-254-133.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 22:07.52 | *** join/#debian Tigger__` (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:08.08 | yagoo | lets Nick Burns to do the research |
| 22:08.33 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) |
| 22:08.47 | *** part/#debian hiwk (1776@fritz.lysator.liu.se) |
| 22:10.02 | PhoenixSTF | I just wanted to know if its possible to make a raid 5 of raids |
| 22:10.09 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:10.25 | centrino | no luck with grub.cfg here so far |
| 22:10.31 | seb82_1 | kk |
| 22:10.45 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 22:10.57 | centrino | ok, my graphics hw is an Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics Controller |
| 22:11.09 | *** join/#debian kegwin (~willk@c-24-23-46-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:11.25 | yagoo | centrino, are you playing around with kern bootline options? |
| 22:11.47 | centrino | yes |
| 22:12.06 | *** join/#debian astartoth (~daemon@87-196-38-143.net.novis.pt) |
| 22:12.15 | yagoo | centrino, and um.. what options? |
| 22:12.30 | centrino | linux/win32-loader/linux video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr gfxpayload=800x600 acpi=off nomodeset fb=true |
| 22:12.41 | yagoo | centrino, win32-loader ? |
| 22:13.07 | seb82_1 | yagoo en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Win32-loader_(Debian) |
| 22:13.38 | yagoo | centrino, oh the loopback install. that i'm not sure.. |
| 22:13.43 | yagoo | we all use native here.. |
| 22:13.51 | *** join/#debian astartoth (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 22:13.52 | *** join/#debian benji__ (~benji@12.207.18.194) |
| 22:13.55 | seb82_1 | centrino have ya already got to the point where you ya can boot it via bootmenu? |
| 22:13.57 | centrino | the cd drive of the laptop is broken |
| 22:14.04 | centrino | no |
| 22:14.06 | yagoo | loopback meaning.. there's a "file" containing the debian on an ntfs backlayer.. |
| 22:14.15 | centrino | ok |
| 22:14.26 | seb82_1 | because you should see it up in the windows boot menu |
| 22:14.28 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net) |
| 22:14.41 | centrino | yes |
| 22:14.43 | *** join/#debian ulaek (~ulaek@0x4dd53016.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 22:14.44 | centrino | i am there |
| 22:14.46 | yagoo | centrino, you'll need to refer to that kernel's documentation AND grub support for bootline options.. |
| 22:14.48 | seb82_1 | owkay |
| 22:15.09 | seb82_1 | do you have an installation medium at bay to install from? |
| 22:15.21 | centrino | a usb stick |
| 22:15.32 | *** join/#debian astartoth (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 22:16.00 | centrino | yagoo: i had a look into the ubuntu docs of grub 2 |
| 22:16.18 | yagoo | centrino, are you using the same "build" ? |
| 22:16.32 | centrino | i don't know |
| 22:16.51 | yagoo | centrino, what debian edition is this? the latest? |
| 22:17.34 | yagoo | centrino, if you're trying to use an "intel" driver for X, I don't know why you're passing video=vesa |
| 22:17.37 | centrino | good question |
| 22:17.45 | centrino | i thought that |
| 22:17.53 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc27-nfds13-2-0-cust178.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:18.01 | yagoo | centrino, you're trying to fix X ? |
| 22:18.11 | centrino | i am not so familiar with this, but i remember there is an intel driver |
| 22:18.17 | centrino | yes, x seems to be the problem |
| 22:18.29 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 22:18.38 | yagoo | centrino, so you're able to get into a console.. |
| 22:18.39 | centrino | and for the debian version, i am not even sure (shame on me) |
| 22:18.47 | centrino | no, i am not |
| 22:19.11 | centrino | the installation halts with a blank screen after "starting system log deamon..." |
| 22:19.13 | yagoo | centrino, does it show any kernel bootlines? |
| 22:19.27 | centrino | what do you mean by that? |
| 22:19.29 | seb82_1 | centrino ditch the video=vga... |
| 22:19.45 | centrino | i seems to boot up, showing a lot of stuff |
| 22:19.50 | yagoo | centrino, try using vga=ask |
| 22:19.51 | centrino | registering devices |
| 22:19.53 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-76-119-248-54.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 22:20.28 | centrino | this should be debian stable, btw |
| 22:20.45 | centrino | ok, one second |
| 22:21.05 | seb82_1 | kk |
| 22:21.11 | *** join/#debian s1 (~sa@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 22:21.16 | centrino | shall i omit the vesa part |
| 22:21.37 | seb82_1 | yeah... |
| 22:22.01 | *** join/#debian astartoth (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 22:22.01 | seb82_1 | just give it a try |
| 22:22.06 | centrino | and then write video=intel and vga=ask |
| 22:22.40 | OldParr | on which repo can i find vmware ? |
| 22:22.48 | centrino | i'm just trying not to create a senseless line of options |
| 22:23.24 | astartoth | hi all, I'm having a small annoyance with rxvt and and termName. currently it is set to rxvt-unicode-256color |
| 22:23.41 | centrino | what about the nomodeset parameter. i read that it actually does nothing on newer kernels |
| 22:23.46 | astartoth | tmux has set -g default-terminal "screen-256color" set |
| 22:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1081] by debhelper |
| 22:24.05 | astartoth | but I'm unable to see bold characters. if I set them both to xterm |
| 22:24.13 | astartoth | it works |
| 22:25.34 | yagoo | centrino, just try vga=ask, take out video= |
| 22:26.05 | yagoo | centrino, use the original line from the installer, and use vga=ask |
| 22:26.28 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 22:26.36 | centrino | ok |
| 22:26.42 | yagoo | OldParr, people use vbox (virtualbox) |
| 22:26.59 | *** join/#debian symptom (~symptom@unaffiliated/symptom) |
| 22:27.02 | yagoo | OldParr, vmware.com is closed licensed software |
| 22:27.08 | *** join/#debian xyan (xyan@l.uni.cx) |
| 22:27.24 | *** part/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:27.45 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@ppp121-45-224-40.lns20.per1.internode.on.net) |
| 22:27.46 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 22:28.26 | *** join/#debian s1 (~sa@188.248.253.10) |
| 22:28.26 | *** join/#debian s1 (~sa@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 22:31.28 | *** join/#debian mendred (~mendred@2.25.86.176) |
| 22:32.19 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 22:32.50 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:32.58 | *** join/#debian N2L (~N2L@lns3-pool-d842a59c.dsl.look.ca) |
| 22:33.05 | seb82_1 | centrino... how are things coming? |
| 22:33.17 | N2L | hey, guys! |
| 22:33.20 | centrino | ok, vga=ask leads to an error: legacy parameter 'ask' no longer supported |
| 22:33.30 | centrino | i tried video=intel |
| 22:33.32 | centrino | no success |
| 22:33.51 | seb82_1 | you tried dropping video and try vga=771 |
| 22:34.04 | N2L | okay, I need to update my graphics card, mind telling me how to do that guys? |
| 22:34.15 | *** join/#debian Granis` (~granis@c83-252-193-70.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 22:34.16 | centrino | vga=771 should be gfxpayload=800x600 now |
| 22:34.20 | *** join/#debian Iridos (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 22:34.27 | centrino | i did not try that alone yet |
| 22:34.30 | *** join/#debian Gottaname (~Gottaname@bb121-6-151-135.singnet.com.sg) |
| 22:34.36 | centrino | i'll have try right now. |
| 22:34.54 | *** join/#debian Mondragon (~nbastin@oh-71-53-61-151.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 22:35.13 | *** part/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:35.18 | dvs | N2L: isnt that more of a hardware question? |
| 22:35.25 | Mondragon | how can I get my package to install my init script, but not start the daemon on install? |
| 22:35.27 | *** join/#debian EmleyMoor (phil@topdeck.tinsleyviaduct.com) |
| 22:37.04 | N2L | yes, but how do i update my graphics card using debian? i dont know how to locate my graphics card, i can seem to find any of my hardware(like i cannot locate to place where i see what i have) |
| 22:37.15 | yagoo | centrino, did you check http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ ? |
| 22:37.38 | seb82_1 | yagoo he's off testing again |
| 22:37.59 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:38.04 | dvs | N2L: lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
| 22:38.14 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:38.28 | yagoo | just remember that this "debian-installer" (win32loader) is not the same as the rest of us.. |
| 22:38.41 | yagoo | (it's not the official debian) |
| 22:38.58 | yagoo | so don't rely on mainstream documentation for your kernel bootline parameters.. |
| 22:39.06 | seb82_1 | I know yagoo... I prefere the real deal |
| 22:39.15 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:39.25 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:39.58 | seb82_1 | so centrino... |
| 22:40.33 | yagoo | he's able to boot up the kernel messages... |
| 22:40.55 | yagoo | maybe it's X causing the blank screen.. he should try "single" or "1" appeneded to the bootline.. |
| 22:41.08 | yagoo | ,/appended/ (meaning added to the end of the bootline) |
| 22:41.10 | seb82_1 | yagoo... we tried the single thing already.. |
| 22:41.11 | *** join/#debian gdub (~66gdub@173.180.123.124) |
| 22:41.25 | N2L | dvs: now what? |
| 22:41.34 | yagoo | then try init= /bin/sh .. something like this.. |
| 22:41.36 | *** join/#debian marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) |
| 22:41.56 | yagoo | or use the debian-installer and choose rescue option |
| 22:42.06 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ9 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.249.188) |
| 22:42.31 | dvs | N2L: I still dont know what you mean by "update my graphics card" |
| 22:42.40 | *** join/#debian tomodachi (~mamo@s-000802a0c12b.04-30-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:43.38 | N2L | dvs: update the software |
| 22:43.53 | *** join/#debian centrino (~Philine@cmnz-d9babe3b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:43.56 | themill | dvs: I'm assuming a screwdriver is involved somewhere... |
| 22:44.10 | dvs | that's what i thought |
| 22:44.18 | centrino | tried the suggested options. no success. |
| 22:44.27 | N2L | no, no screwdriver, lmao |
| 22:44.27 | *** join/#debian astartoth (~daemon@87.196.38.143) |
| 22:44.29 | centrino | i'm beginning to mistrust win32-loader |
| 22:44.44 | yagoo | centrino, did you install via a cd? |
| 22:44.49 | centrino | is there another possible way of installing Debian from withtin WinXP? |
| 22:45.01 | centrino | no, i had to install from within windows |
| 22:45.04 | dvs | N2L: aptitude updates the software |
| 22:45.05 | centrino | cd drive broken |
| 22:45.09 | centrino | no booting from usb |
| 22:45.14 | yagoo | centrino, not as "natively".. Of course you'd probably know there's vmware and virtualbox |
| 22:45.26 | N2L | oh, so aptitude install update? |
| 22:45.33 | tharkun | !pxe |
| 22:45.33 | dpkg | Pre-boot eXecution Environment (PXE) is a network boot protocol. A <TFTP> server with tsize support (such as tftpd-hpa, atftpd, dnsmasq) is required for PXE. See also <pxelinux>, <netboot>, <ipxe>. |
| 22:45.37 | dvs | yes |
| 22:45.42 | N2L | ok |
| 22:45.44 | yagoo | centrino, if u installed from usb, boot with that and go to a console with it |
| 22:45.47 | seb82_1 | or placing the drive in another laptop... install with a netinstall... and then palce it back... |
| 22:45.48 | centrino | i heard about that...but don't know anything about it |
| 22:45.53 | *** join/#debian jargon- (~dayo@unaffiliated/jargon-) |
| 22:46.13 | centrino | i did not boot from usb |
| 22:46.23 | centrino | booting from usb was not possibel |
| 22:46.24 | N2L | Superuser rright? |
| 22:46.35 | yagoo | centrino, your machine must be old.. |
| 22:46.41 | themill | N2L: I don't think anyone has any idea what it is you are trying to do yet. Can you explain it more clearly? Is there another language you'd be happier seeking help in? |
| 22:46.45 | centrino | early 2000s |
| 22:46.52 | seb82_1 | yagoo: or have broken hardware... |
| 22:47.18 | N2L | themill: you're funny |
| 22:47.37 | yagoo | centrino, you are booting the system.. but up to the point where it says Starting system daemon log.. |
| 22:47.38 | themill | N2L: I'm quite serious. |
| 22:47.45 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:48.07 | seb82_1 | N2L: wot is your native tongue? |
| 22:48.11 | N2L | Essentially, while running windows i simply installed an update via device manager and i was able to play games that required, i gave up ok, i have no idea what im doing anymore |
| 22:48.14 | centrino | if i understand that right, i am booting the installer |
| 22:48.19 | dvs | themill: he's updating the software DRIVERS |
| 22:48.41 | centrino | because: debian is not yet installed |
| 22:48.44 | themill | dvs: from what to what? |
| 22:48.46 | N2L | themill: Im canadian(Ontario) so english, with a little french |
| 22:48.58 | yagoo | centrino, let me clarify you something.. (really you got me lost here).. When you say booting your "install" -- You are referring to an "installed system".. |
| 22:48.59 | seb82_1 | tres cool |
| 22:49.02 | themill | N2L: then you really need to work at explaining things.... |
| 22:49.03 | N2L | THANK DVS |
| 22:49.15 | yagoo | centrino, but if you are installing.. simply say "installation media".. |
| 22:49.28 | centrino | no, i am always refrring to starting the installation routine |
| 22:49.29 | yagoo | centrino, cuse this whole time you got me off track here.. |
| 22:49.32 | dvs | N2L: You can't fool us! You're from "Berlin' |
| 22:49.39 | centrino | ok, sorry |
| 22:49.48 | yagoo | centrino, debian-installer does not need to be booted from bios. |
| 22:49.53 | N2L | dvs: lol |
| 22:49.56 | yagoo | nways.. |
| 22:50.08 | centrino | then i am not shure what this piece of software does. |
| 22:50.19 | yagoo | centrino, and u also said you cant boot from usb.. |
| 22:50.25 | centrino | right |
| 22:50.30 | centrino | i tried with mini.iso |
| 22:50.33 | yagoo | centrino, so it's leading me that the installer is reaching some point.. |
| 22:50.35 | N2L | Linux really does have a friendly community :D |
| 22:50.57 | seb82_1 | N2L was macht du? |
| 22:50.58 | centrino | no, trying to boot from usb results in an "Operating system not found" error |
| 22:51.28 | *** join/#debian digitizer (~ryland@valimar.lockfile.org) |
| 22:51.39 | yagoo | centrino, but again.. i'd suggest doing a native install.. if u really want to try debian.. (backup ntfs data, have gparted-live-cd change ntfs partition size-- make 2 linux partitions --> one ext3 and another swap-- then reboot for a real install-- get your cd fixed) |
| 22:52.14 | seb82_1 | or put it in another laptop, the harddrive... |
| 22:52.16 | centrino | i am not sure i understand what native means here |
| 22:52.16 | yagoo | centrino, your bios needs to support booting from usb.. |
| 22:52.31 | centrino | it says it supports booting from removable devices |
| 22:52.45 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ10 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.254.186) |
| 22:52.45 | centrino | i selected that |
| 22:52.51 | centrino | it did not work |
| 22:52.55 | yagoo | centrino, native means, Linux on ext3... the Debian-installer is not a pure native installer-> it installs on a "file" on top of ntfs or fat32 |
| 22:53.01 | *** join/#debian Amorphous (jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) |
| 22:53.11 | centrino | ok |
| 22:54.05 | N2L | prasident |
| 22:54.06 | yagoo | centrino, just get a new cd replacement, and use gparted-live-cd and a real-debian installer (not the "debian-installer" cd you have) |
| 22:54.46 | centrino | ok, my cd drive is broken. i tried to use anormal Debian netinst CD. |
| 22:54.50 | centrino | it did not work. |
| 22:55.02 | centrino | and made strange noises |
| 22:55.40 | centrino | so, you suggest exchanging the cd drive for a new one. |
| 22:55.50 | N2L | hilfe |
| 22:55.50 | yagoo | centrino, you said it was "broken" .. not me. |
| 22:55.53 | yagoo | geez.. |
| 22:55.57 | centrino | it is |
| 22:56.06 | dvs | centrino: if you can boot from USB, you can use that. |
| 22:56.07 | yagoo | if you think the cd drive is broken.. get someone to fix it. end of story man.. |
| 22:56.20 | yagoo | dvs, he's not able to.. |
| 22:56.24 | dvs | oh |
| 22:56.35 | yagoo | dvs, computer way too old (he's on xp tells me so) |
| 22:56.45 | dvs | yikes |
| 22:56.58 | N2L | that sucks |
| 22:57.51 | babilen | N2L: Do you need help with something? |
| 22:57.51 | seb82_1 | guys... I have a laptop which is nearly 8 years old... |
| 22:57.52 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:58.05 | seb82_1 | and runs like a charm with debian... |
| 22:58.07 | N2L | babilen: no |
| 22:58.47 | babilen | N2L: Ok |
| 22:59.05 | centrino | i don't want to annoy you. but: this is not my laptop. the cd drive will certainly not be replaced by the owner (no money). so, isn't there a way to get that system running on here wihtout that pieve of equipment and without booting from usb? |
| 22:59.33 | dvs | !rube goldberg install |
| 22:59.33 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke." |
| 23:00.03 | yagoo | centrino, you'll need another machine.. and as told to you before.. pxe/net-boot.. but i doubt you'll be able to set it all up if you had the gear.. |
| 23:00.19 | seb82_1 | yagoo have you got another laptop? |
| 23:00.32 | yagoo | seb82_1, centrino. |
| 23:01.07 | centrino | ok, if i had another machine. i think i can provide for that. |
| 23:01.09 | seb82_1 | sorry yagoo... I wanted to reply to ya... but I forgot... |
| 23:01.17 | *** part/#debian gdub (~66gdub@173.180.123.124) |
| 23:01.24 | tomodachi | centrino: you can netboot a machine, or you can remove the harddrive, install from to it from another source and then boot it. |
| 23:01.28 | seb82_1 | and then I just replied for centrina... |
| 23:01.32 | seb82_1 | *centrino |
| 23:01.38 | yagoo | centrino, does your bios show something with pxe/net boot? |
| 23:01.46 | centrino | i think so |
| 23:02.16 | yagoo | centrino, what laptop model is this nways? |
| 23:02.27 | centrino | Medion MD 41100 |
| 23:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1069] by debhelper |
| 23:04.22 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@pool-72-66-231-160.ronkva.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:04.32 | *** join/#debian LtL (~irssi@173-20-128-9.client.mchsi.com) |
| 23:05.26 | seb82_1 | centrino you sure you don't have a nother type on it? |
| 23:06.35 | centrino | what do you mean by that? |
| 23:07.13 | seb82_1 | sumfin like akoya, or erazer? |
| 23:07.22 | seb82_1 | btw in which country was it bought? |
| 23:07.27 | *** join/#debian Genji_ (~Genji@112.202.50.119) |
| 23:08.25 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~david@212.122.111.205.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 23:08.42 | centrino | no |
| 23:08.48 | centrino | it waqs bought in germany |
| 23:09.03 | centrino | and i think that the 41100 does not have a name assigned to it |
| 23:09.46 | seb82_1 | kk then I know where to look... thx |
| 23:09.58 | *** join/#debian m3lvin (~m3lvin@dsl-sjkbrasgw2-fee7f800-172.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:10.18 | centrino | to look for what? |
| 23:10.48 | seb82_1 | in germany, on medion's page |
| 23:11.24 | *** part/#debian m3lvin (~m3lvin@dsl-sjkbrasgw2-fee7f800-172.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:11.55 | *** join/#debian Panocha (~Blooop@2001:470:1f08:12e0::38db) |
| 23:11.57 | *** join/#debian CoilDomain (~jasonruiz@pool-173-65-93-96.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:13.07 | seb82_1 | centrino do you have an msn-code of the system? |
| 23:13.16 | *** join/#debian icarious (~merv@122.163.79.131) |
| 23:13.22 | centrino | that is the thing on the back side, right? |
| 23:13.29 | centrino | why would we need that? |
| 23:13.36 | icarious | Whats the name of the package containing the artwiz fonts? |
| 23:13.57 | Panocha | hi |
| 23:14.03 | Panocha | I am designing a new Debian support forum |
| 23:14.07 | Panocha | geared to Spanish |
| 23:14.07 | *** join/#debian s1 (~sa@188.248.253.10) |
| 23:14.07 | *** join/#debian s1 (~sa@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 23:14.12 | PerfDave | !es |
| 23:14.12 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 23:14.12 | Panocha | and will have the spanish debian channel |
| 23:14.18 | Panocha | embedded into a java applet |
| 23:14.22 | centrino | icarious: did you try tosearch package lists with synaptic? |
| 23:14.25 | Panocha | but I am torn on the logo I should use |
| 23:14.30 | Panocha | here are the four under consideration |
| 23:14.31 | Panocha | http://i.imgur.com/Usqtb.jpg |
| 23:14.36 | Panocha | I need feedback please |
| 23:14.39 | icarious | centrino: affirmative |
| 23:14.40 | yagoo | centrino, because sometimes there's bios updates.. and bios updates can sometimes offer usb-boot and improved net-boot support |
| 23:14.41 | Panocha | which one would be the best? |
| 23:14.44 | icarious | didnt get them |
| 23:14.51 | Panocha | http://i.imgur.com/Usqtb.jpg |
| 23:14.56 | seb82_1 | yuppers... in fact coudl you tell the msn-number and wot's underneath that sticker? |
| 23:14.58 | Panocha | they all look good |
| 23:15.02 | Panocha | but which one is the catchiest |
| 23:15.06 | Panocha | ? |
| 23:15.18 | yagoo | !ops Panocha pasting porn |
| 23:15.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: yagoo complains about: Panocha pasting porn |
| 23:15.21 | PerfDave | !ops Panocha porn spam |
| 23:15.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: perfdave complains about: Panocha porn spam |
| 23:15.29 | centrino | ok the MSN number |
| 23:15.29 | Panocha | spam porn? |
| 23:15.32 | Panocha | stop lying |
| 23:15.35 | Panocha | http://i.imgur.com/Usqtb.jpg |
| 23:15.38 | Panocha | which one is the best? |
| 23:15.39 | *** mode/#debian [+o babilen] by ChanServ |
| 23:15.39 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@2001 470:1f08:12e0::38db] by babilen |
| 23:15.40 | *** kick/#debian [Panocha!~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen] by babilen (you should know better) |
| 23:15.40 | *** mode/#debian [-o babilen] by babilen |
| 23:15.45 | somiaj | icarious: I belive the artwiz fonts were removed from debian a few release ago, never every tracked down why. |
| 23:16.16 | icarious | somiaj: any similar replacements? |
| 23:16.25 | babilen | Thanks |
| 23:16.28 | somiaj | icarious: I just use the defaults these days. |
| 23:16.52 | seb82_1 | !ops Panocha pasting porn |
| 23:16.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: seb82_1 complains about: Panocha pasting porn |
| 23:16.53 | somiaj | icarious: so I don't know of any. You might be able to track down an old deb on archive.debian.org -- though not sure how compadable it would be. |
| 23:17.04 | icarious | somiaj: ok will try. |
| 23:17.25 | yagoo | centrino, it's possible there can be a bios update.. (siw.exe a free download can tell on windows your model name) |
| 23:17.35 | *** join/#debian ner0x (~ner0x@c-24-3-132-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 23:17.44 | somiaj | icarious: I think woody was the last one I recall having them, but my memory is a little fuzzy |
| 23:17.52 | babilen | seb82_1: Please do not abuse the <ops> factoid. The problem has been dealt with and we can move on. |
| 23:18.17 | seb82_1 | Sorry babilen... hadn't seen the line he was kicked off... |
| 23:18.23 | babilen | ack |
| 23:18.31 | icarious | woody :S that sounds pretty old |
| 23:18.54 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:19.35 | *** join/#debian rww (~rww@freenode/staff/rww) |
| 23:20.13 | *** part/#debian rww (~rww@freenode/staff/rww) |
| 23:20.19 | seb82_1 | guys and gals have a nice one... |
| 23:20.22 | seb82_1 | till next time |
| 23:20.29 | babilen | cya |
| 23:20.34 | seb82_1 | it has been fun alright |
| 23:23.24 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@202.36.179.68) |
| 23:23.58 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:28.05 | *** join/#debian crs (~crs@gentoo/user/crs) |
| 23:28.19 | xf_merc | night all |
| 23:28.36 | *** join/#debian zarkdav (~zarkdav@eddy2.easynet.fr) |
| 23:30.53 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@97-120-76-173.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 23:30.53 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 23:31.33 | *** join/#debian gusto (~gusto@bband-dyn39.178-40-84.t-com.sk) |
| 23:32.03 | *** join/#debian KnightsWhoSayNi (~Shrubbery@cpe-76-185-15-205.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 23:33.29 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@rrcs-98-101-210-6.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:34.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1059] by debhelper |
| 23:35.06 | *** join/#debian ezprezo (~ezprezo@75-163-180-115.clsp.qwest.net) |
| 23:35.46 | *** join/#debian Administrador (~chatzilla@static-200-105-191-131.acelerate.net) |
| 23:35.58 | Administrador | is there a linux distro for a very old pc that has 512 mb ram, easy to use and comes with everything pre installed+ like doecs and web browser |
| 23:36.10 | Administrador | codecs |
| 23:36.27 | Administrador | preferably based on debian or slackware |
| 23:36.34 | MrFrood | Administrador: what processor |
| 23:36.38 | yagoo | Administrador, why u asking on here? (i heard mint might..) |
| 23:36.46 | Administrador | pentium 4 |
| 23:36.53 | yagoo | Administrador, people on #linux answer these kinds of questions alot.. |
| 23:36.54 | *** join/#debian NightMiles (~nights@procyon.nightmiles.org) |
| 23:37.06 | *** join/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@216.184.25.226.unused.swcp.com) |
| 23:37.18 | *** part/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@216.184.25.226.unused.swcp.com) |
| 23:37.28 | Administrador | dont know why they banned me |
| 23:37.58 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@133.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 23:38.12 | MrFrood | Administrador: most distros will run on that (including debian), just choose a light DE such as lxde |
| 23:38.29 | *** join/#debian dschoepe_ (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 23:38.42 | yagoo | Administrador, ask #linux-ops |
| 23:38.56 | *** join/#debian bombadil_ (~Tom@S0106002369c5e36f.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 23:39.53 | Administrador | im running pclinux os |
| 23:39.56 | Administrador | tight now |
| 23:40.03 | Administrador | right* |
| 23:40.21 | *** join/#debian chasing`Sol (~cS@smtp.master-zone.net) |
| 23:40.22 | Administrador | but it sometimesc rashes |
| 23:40.27 | Administrador | when im using firtefox |
| 23:40.49 | Administrador | i didnt like debian because it doesnt autodetect my partitions |
| 23:40.56 | Administrador | ntfs |
| 23:41.00 | Administrador | automatically |
| 23:41.10 | *** join/#debian echo083 (~adam@84.7.196.188) |
| 23:43.17 | Administrador | hello⧠|
| 23:43.20 | Administrador | ? |
| 23:43.59 | bombadil_ | I am having some difficulty setting up Raid 1 on my server, and am looking for an alternative. I realized I don't need real-time mirroring. A once per day scheduled sync of the two drives would be fine. What would be the best way to achive this? |
| 23:44.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | Administrador: if you don't like debian, you are in the wrong channel. if you won't be running debian, please take your question elseware. |
| 23:44.28 | Administrador | i like the stability |
| 23:44.31 | pipeline | bombadil_: rsync or unison |
| 23:44.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | bombadil_: rsync at the simplest level, dirvish or rsnapshot (or anything like that) as second prefs perhaps |
| 23:44.41 | Administrador | of debian and the lightness |
| 23:44.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | good thought, unison too |
| 23:45.08 | Administrador | but i would like a debian based distro that recognizes my partitions and has codecs pre installed |
| 23:45.09 | MrFrood | !tell Administrador about ntfs |
| 23:46.08 | MrFrood | Administrador: this channel is for Debian support questions |
| 23:46.29 | bombadil_ | thank you pipeline and Kamping_Kaiser. I will look into these options |
| 23:46.55 | *** join/#debian j-v-e (~j-v-e@c-68-80-50-84.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.18 | j-v-e | hi there :) |
| 23:47.51 | j-v-e | I'm battling with openldap/slapd. For some reason, I can't manage to activate the PLAIN supportedSASLMechanisms. |
| 23:47.56 | *** join/#debian brylie (~brylie@adsl-69-105-202-58.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 23:48.11 | brylie | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.12 | j-v-e | Does somebody know if I need to rebuild openldap from the source ? |
| 23:49.14 | *** join/#debian satellit_ (~satellit@2002:d064:8d43:0:219:d1ff:fe73:14e6) |
| 23:49.48 | *** join/#debian smhar (~salman@46.184.195.172) |
| 23:49.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | bombadil_: np, fwiw, i had rsync triggered by cronjob to do exactly that (no history of the syncs, just a plain rsync from a to be) |
| 23:49.50 | j-v-e | brylie: chef ? puppet ? |
| 23:49.54 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slvmecha@c-71-233-237-67.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:50.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | brylie: cfengine/puppet/bcfg2 are all in debian, not sure about chef |
| 23:50.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | brylie: they all have horrible configuration (ttbomk), so be ready for it :) |
| 23:51.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | j-v-e: you might havce to email the maintainers to ask that |
| 23:52.16 | j-v-e | Kamping_Kaiser: that seems so odd to me that I didn't to bother the maintainers with it right away :) |
| 23:52.40 | j-v-e | I mean, PLAIN mechanisms for sasl is just the basis. I can even see the modules in /usr/lib/sasl2 |
| 23:52.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | j-v-e: i've not used openldap for aaages, so i can't help debug it sorry :/ |
| 23:52.45 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:52.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | j-v-e: there is an openldap channel you can try, but iirc they tell you to build it for yourself anyway :( |
| 23:53.23 | j-v-e | I'll give it a shot, nothing to lose :) |
| 23:53.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | gl :) |
| 23:54.49 | TrueDD | Good night everybody |
| 23:55.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | later |
| 23:55.30 | bombadil_ | Kamping_Kaiser: yes a cronjob is the perfect way to dot his. do you by chance know how to delete a raid array? if i simply uninstall mdadm would this suffice? |
| 23:55.55 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 23:56.44 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 23:57.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | bombadil_: safely delete it? no idea sorry |
| 23:58.11 | bombadil_ | okay thanks anyways. |
| 23:58.12 | *** join/#debian sarabande (~wdidwlia@c-71-229-124-59.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:58.27 | j-v-e | Ha ! Looks like I found it ! Need to specify olcsaslsecprops: none in cn=config |
