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| 00:04.37 | Devastator | grrr, this netselect-apt is driving me nuts! |
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| 00:07.01 | sweb | i want download list of files from txt files via wget . what is command ? |
| 00:08.38 | Lewoco | For some reason my /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts do not get regenerated when my network connection is started. I think I may have uninstalled the package the does this. Does anyone know what it is? |
| 00:09.04 | gnarface | Lewoco: dhcp[something] |
| 00:09.33 | dondelelcaro | Lewoco: usually you'd use resolvconf |
| 00:09.55 | Lewoco | resolvconf rings a bell, trying it now |
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| 00:10.46 | iNDiG | Am I doing something obviously wrong here :/ echo test.txt | grep '\.txt|\.text' ? |
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| 00:11.03 | iNDiG | the regex is valid, but it's not returning a result |
| 00:11.09 | iNDiG | which it should because it should match test.txt |
| 00:11.59 | Lewoco | echo test.txt | grep -E '(\.txt|\.text)' |
| 00:12.03 | karlpinc | iNDiG: | binds tightly. You need parenthesis. |
| 00:13.04 | iNDiG | oh |
| 00:13.06 | iNDiG | thanks |
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| 00:13.22 | dondelelcaro | iNDiG: you want grep '\.txt\|\.text' |
| 00:14.04 | iNDiG | ah ya that works too |
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| 00:16.17 | karlpinc | dondelelcaro: The other week we had a guy here who was using puppet and wanted to have the same package but different versions. Why wouldn't the correct solution have been to do it like debian does? Have separate repos like experimental, testing, stable, oldstable and then use puppet with sources.list and/or pinning to control who gets what version? (This seemed obvious after a night's sleep.) What do you think? |
| 00:16.18 | iNDiG | or egrep |
| 00:17.13 | dondelelcaro | karlpinc: you can't have the different versions of the same package on one system, but if you meant different systems, you can do that with separate repositories or pinning or a meta package or something like that |
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| 00:18.01 | karlpinc | dondelelcaro: Right. Separate repos. And different systems may have different versions. (A testing box may run all testing whereas a production box run from stable, etc.) |
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| 00:20.03 | dondelelcaro | karlpinc: right, pinning, or having different boxes point at different repositories is probably optimal |
| 00:20.21 | dondelelcaro | karlpinc: a long time ago, I even had a system where different repositories would be shown based on the machine requesting the packages |
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| 00:23.39 | karlpinc | dondelelcaro: We suggested putting version numbers into the package name but that was unsatisfactory because it would break puppets version tracking reports. |
| 00:24.05 | dondelelcaro | karlpinc: ah; I don't work enough with puppet to really keep trackk... but yeah, puting versions into package names makes things more brittle then you want them |
| 00:24.41 | karlpinc | dondelelcaro: He probably rejected debian. oh well. |
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| 00:36.08 | Devastator | can somebody that uses netselect-apt see if this command works? netselect-apt -a amd64 -s -n -f stable |
| 00:38.07 | Chelsea | Is it possible to get dwm/xmonad type of tiling management for Firefox? |
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| 00:38.49 | hoverbear | Coming from Funtoo/Gentoo, how stable will I find debian testing? |
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| 00:40.13 | peterrooney | hoverbear: Most likely, not at all. It's called testing for a reason. |
| 00:40.32 | gnarface | oh and by the way |
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| 00:40.40 | gnarface | hwo do i get back my god damned boot penguin? |
| 00:40.44 | gnarface | (in squeeze) |
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| 00:41.20 | hoverbear | peterrooney: Hmmm, maybe I'll just install ubuntu server instead. :S |
| 00:41.27 | peterrooney | gnarface: buy a mac. |
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| 00:41.51 | peterrooney | hoverbear: but then you'll have to deal with debian testing anyways. |
| 00:42.17 | hoverbear | peterrooney: Still loads more stable then gentoo :-P |
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| 00:50.59 | n-iCe | I am back |
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| 00:51.40 | n-iCe | what would be the best to update my sound card? |
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| 00:54.28 | nevyn | n-iCe: what features do you want/need in a soundcard? |
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| 00:55.17 | n-iCe | nevyn: make my microphone works, buil-in a laptop |
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| 00:55.24 | n-iCe | works in kernel .39 bpo |
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| 00:55.48 | n-iCe | but is I upgrade then wifi card won't work, we #debian have been working on it for a couple a days |
| 00:56.03 | n-iCe | so I think to try upgrading the drivers card or software instead the kernel |
| 00:56.05 | n-iCe | to make it work |
| 00:56.37 | nevyn | if you have a regression in a new kernel. then you should report that as a bug. |
| 00:57.13 | nevyn | ie. if wifi works on .39 but not on 3.0 then that is a BUG (especially if you're using debian official kernels.) |
| 00:58.20 | n-iCe | well, the microphone does not work in this kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 but does in .39 |
| 00:58.29 | n-iCe | and the wifi works in 2.6.32-5-amd64 but no in .32 |
| 00:58.42 | n-iCe | anyway, any idea what would the best way to update my sound card? |
| 00:58.53 | n-iCe | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) |
| 00:59.23 | nevyn | you can update alsa with m-i I think |
| 00:59.33 | nevyn | I prefer to use a newer kernel tho |
| 00:59.51 | nevyn | n-iCe: is it just that .32 had the firmware and you need a firmware package for .39? |
| 01:00.43 | n-iCe | wait wait |
| 01:00.46 | n-iCe | forget about the wifi thing |
| 01:01.11 | n-iCe | All I want is to use the alsa drivers .39 use |
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| 01:04.39 | nevyn | n-iCe: so you could probably do that with m-i as I said |
| 01:05.02 | nevyn | but if you have a hardware support regression you really should report it as a bug. |
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| 01:06.45 | n-iCe | nevyn: what's that? |
| 01:06.55 | nevyn | !m-i |
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| 01:07.37 | nevyn | actually dkms is the new black |
| 01:07.39 | nevyn | !dkms |
| 01:07.40 | dpkg | Dynamic Kernel Module Support (DKMS) is a framework for generating out-of-tree Linux kernel modules. Packages using DKMS build modules during installation and when updated Linux versions are installed, provided Linux headers are present (these are not installed by dkms). DKMS-managed modules are installed to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates/dkms/ . The module build log file can be found at /var/lib/dkms/$module/$version/build/make.log |
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| 01:16.55 | n-iCe | nevyn: did not get it |
| 01:17.39 | n-iCe | how can I know my alsa driver version? |
| 01:17.53 | nevyn | n-iCe: you know alsa is in-tree in the kernel now right? |
| 01:18.02 | nevyn | has been for 10 years. |
| 01:18.12 | n-iCe | no |
| 01:19.10 | nevyn | it's part of the kernel. |
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| 01:25.39 | sweb | i download multiple files via wget -i /tmp/download.txt and i want to save each file as a new integer how can i do this ? |
| 01:25.46 | sweb | wget -i /tmp/download.txt -O=%d not work |
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| 01:28.13 | peterrooney | sweb: shell scripting should work - eg for n in $( seq -w 1 20 ) ; do wget --options -O filename-$n ; done |
| 01:28.53 | sweb | peterrooney, ty could you paste bin just code ? |
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| 01:29.39 | n-iCe | nevyn: ok, then ,what should I do? |
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| 01:31.32 | peterrooney | sweb: I couldn't even start unless I knew what you were actually trying to do. also, /join #bash - they have a good track record when questions are posed clearly. |
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| 01:33.19 | cdahmedeh | i'm having trouble setting password for a user on mysql, i created a user using useradd, and then granted permissions in mysql for said user, and now when i try to set the user's password, i get: Can't find any matching row in the user table, but that user is in mysql.user |
| 01:33.33 | hoverbear | 7/close |
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| 01:35.36 | peterrooney | sweb: as a first guess, $ export x=1; for i in $(cat /tmp/download.txt) ; do wget -O "downloaded_file_$x" "$i" ; x=$(( $x + 1 )) ; done |
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| 01:38.30 | peterrooney | sweb: mind you, I'm sure #bash folks could get on my case for using cat instead of read |
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| 02:21.19 | mattp_ | I've installed linux-image-3.0.0-1-686-pae , rebooted, but my kernel still sits at 2.6 |
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| 02:21.32 | mattp_ | what does this mean? the 3.0 package says its installed |
| 02:22.50 | simonlnu | did you boot to that kernel? obviously not. |
| 02:23.21 | mattp_ | no, the grub list still only lists the 2.6 kernel. i thought installing the 3.0 kernel would add entries though |
| 02:23.25 | mattp_ | do i need to do that by hand? |
| 02:23.48 | simonlnu | no, update-grub should do that |
| 02:24.01 | mattp_ | just `update-grub` from root? |
| 02:24.09 | simonlnu | yes. |
| 02:24.19 | mattp_ | ive got update-grub and update-grub2 |
| 02:24.35 | simonlnu | then you can go look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 02:24.48 | simonlnu | that ^^ is grub2 |
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| 02:25.24 | mattp_ | that file is there, that means im running 2? |
| 02:25.39 | simonlnu | likely. check the file mtime |
| 02:26.24 | mattp_ | oct 15th |
| 02:26.31 | mattp_ | alright. ill run update-grb2 |
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| 02:27.12 | mattp_ | beauty. thanks simonlnu, ive not done this on debian before. thanks :) |
| 02:27.45 | simonlnu | np |
| 02:28.14 | mattp_ | bleh . kernel panic, 'unable to mount root fs on unknown-block' |
| 02:28.56 | mattp_ | does update-grub2 not fully get things right sometime? or is btrfs not included in the stock 3.0 kernel |
| 02:29.51 | simonlnu | probably need to edit /etc/default/grub to point to your root= |
| 02:31.54 | mattp_ | simonlnu: this file is for grub1? |
| 02:32.20 | mattp_ | comment at top says update-grub after editing. does it work with grub2 |
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| 02:33.18 | Devastator | after A LOT of hussle, I fixed netselect-apt hehe |
| 02:33.40 | mrtn_ | I upgraded tg3.ko(driver for Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5722 NIC) from version 3.91 to 3.116j remotely over SSH. I did: "rmmod tg3; sleep 5; insmod /root/user/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.116j/tg3.ko". |
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| 02:34.02 | mrtn_ | and according to "ethtool -i eth1" I have the new module in use. However, is this really in use? I mean there wasn't even a outage in SSH connection and no configuration was lost.. |
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| 02:39.50 | Wyzard | Does anyone know the right way to rename an EFI boot manager entry using efibootmgr? |
| 02:40.05 | Wyzard | grub-install (in grub-efi-amd64) creates an entry labeled "debian" |
| 02:40.15 | Wyzard | I'd like it to say either "Debian" or "GRUB" |
| 02:40.54 | Wyzard | The entry is Boot000C, and "efibootmgr -b C -B" is the right way to delete it; from the manpage it looks like "efibootmgr -b C -L GRUB" is the way to rename it, but it has no effect |
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| 02:43.11 | simonlnu | mattp_: still grub2 |
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| 02:57.04 | bastidrazor | hello, i'm getting :: W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.steadfast.net/debian/dists/squeeze/updates/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 208.100.4.53 80] also get this when i try the US Main Server |
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| 03:00.44 | rww | bastidrazor: change squeeze/updates to squeeze-updates in the relevant line of your sources.lists. the security repository uses /, this one doesn't. |
| 03:01.11 | bastidrazor | rww, thank you. |
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| 03:05.11 | mattp_ | simonlnu: needed an update-initramfs -c -k 3.0.0 thanks for the help again |
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| 03:09.53 | simonlnu | mattp_: ah yes. was going to suggest it but forgot |
| 03:10.29 | bastidrazor | rww, my sources.list is : http://pastebin.com/W03C537d .. it appears i have the line as you suggest. |
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| 03:10.45 | rww | bastidrazor: see line 11 |
| 03:11.28 | rww | bastidrazor: if you in fact want a deb-src line for security updates, that sound be deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 03:11.33 | rww | s/sound/should/ |
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| 03:12.20 | rww | (i.e. the same as the line above it except with deb-src) |
| 03:14.50 | Wyzard | Ever since the last kernel update (part of 6.0.3), my machine has been locking up whenever I send it a few gigabytes of data over the network at high speed |
| 03:15.07 | bastidrazor | rww, thank you. |
| 03:15.23 | Wyzard | completely hung -- keyboard doesn't respond |
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| 03:23.31 | mattp_ | hrm. so my wireless stopped working after a kernel upgrade, |
| 03:24.04 | mattp_ | its an rt2500 chip, the rt2500pci module is getting loaded by the kernel fine. no networks showing up when scanning with networkManager. whats the deal? |
| 03:24.05 | Lewoco | Every few minutes a screen saver pops up. Obviously this is annoying. How do I prevent this? |
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| 03:32.51 | bastidrazor | Lewoco, you could add the Inhibit Applet to the top panel. |
| 03:34.40 | Lewoco | bastidrazor, Interesting app, but I already uninstalled xscreensaver and added xset command to disable blanking to my startup scripts so I should be good for now. |
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| 04:25.01 | prixaplan | Guess what guys |
| 04:25.06 | prixaplan | I'm thinking about a chucky-o-placker |
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| 04:25.24 | civillian | wtf is that |
| 04:25.30 | prixaplan | it's this: |
| 04:25.34 | prixaplan | Deh neh neh neh noo noo neh neh Deh neh neh neh noo noo neh neh BAT MAN! |
| 04:25.35 | prixaplan | Ruvah duviv! Ruvah Duvev, Ruvah Doovav, Ruv Div DuV |
| 04:25.36 | prixaplan | Ruvah duviv! Ruvah Duvev, Ruvah Doovav, Ruv Div DuB |
| 04:25.37 | prixaplan | I thoug.ht of birds flying through the sky... when the bird shits guano it gets absorbed by a plant. |
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| 04:25.46 | civillian | win :) |
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| 04:35.55 | xgpt | help!!!!!!!! |
| 04:36.09 | xgpt | apache isn't locking down a directory with a .htaccess file...why not? |
| 04:37.11 | astra05 | xgpt: does it have the correct permissions and sufficient privileges? |
| 04:37.51 | xgpt | what persmissions are necessary? |
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| 04:39.04 | xgpt | astra05: ? |
| 04:40.01 | xgpt | do I have to enable " AllowOverride AuthConfig Indexes AllowOverride AuthConfig Indexes " |
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| 04:40.52 | xgpt | sorry bout that |
| 04:43.28 | civillian | what you mean lock down? |
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| 04:43.48 | xgpt | I mean...use a .htaccess file to pop up a basic auth window |
| 04:43.54 | xgpt | password protect a folder |
| 04:43.58 | xgpt | not with https or anything |
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| 04:44.24 | civillian | pastebin your .htaccess |
| 04:44.50 | wolfffffi | there is an alternative to memtest. It is possible to test the memory in a running system, does someone know the name of the paket? |
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| 04:55.15 | somiaj | wolfffffi: it wouldn't be an accurate of an test because of the memeory reserved by the kernel. |
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| 04:59.09 | MaXim_ | anyone know why my computer might be playing video and audio at excessive speed after resuming from suspend? |
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| 05:00.47 | somiaj | MaXim_: some players use the real time clock for timing. maybe its playing catchup since the realtime clock keeps going during suspend. |
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| 05:01.20 | MaXim_ | that is what i thought too, but it seems to affect everything |
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| 05:01.31 | MaXim_ | i think it is sound related |
| 05:01.39 | MaXim_ | but reloading alsa seems not to fix it |
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| 05:02.10 | MaXim_ | haven't tested any video without audio since I have none of that heheh |
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| 05:17.52 | somiaj | MaXim_: does it only happen if you suspend while playing a video/audio? |
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| 05:20.49 | MaXim_ | no |
| 05:20.56 | MaXim_ | it happens no matter what |
| 05:21.08 | MaXim_ | the only way to remedy is to restart |
| 05:22.03 | somiaj | MaXim_: you should try to stop everything, remove the sound modules and then reload them after the suspend resumes |
| 05:22.20 | somiaj | MaXim_: so rmmod and then modprobe afterwards (if this works you can set this to do automatically) |
| 05:22.24 | MaXim_ | it was my impression that alsa force-reload does that |
| 05:22.35 | MaXim_ | although ive tried it manually too |
| 05:22.37 | MaXim_ | seems not to help |
| 05:22.45 | somiaj | MaXim_: don't just reload the modules |
| 05:23.03 | somiaj | MaXim_: unload the modules before the suspend, then load them again afterwards |
| 05:23.25 | MaXim_ | ah right |
| 05:23.29 | MaXim_ | let me try that |
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| 05:25.37 | acu_ | I want to install debian remotely - I have someone at the other end who can put the cd in - what is the easiest way to do it ? |
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| 05:26.25 | somiaj | acu_: do you have a running os on the machine (some other breed of linux) and an extra partition? |
| 05:27.03 | somiaj | acu_: I would suggest debootstrap, maybe a live cd that you can setup an enviorment you can ssh into would make that easiest |
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| 05:29.13 | acu_ | I thought of building a live cd - since I can assign a static IP - and if ssh is there I could do something about it |
| 05:29.28 | acu_ | somiaj: how this debootstrap works |
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| 05:30.07 | acu_ | !debootstrap |
| 05:30.07 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 05:30.19 | mrgordon | Got me a problem folks |
| 05:30.51 | mrgordon | I'm trying to install pithos but seems like debian doesn't have python2.6 in their repos. |
| 05:30.57 | somiaj | acu_: its a command that downloads a base system into a chroot. you can then chroot into the system, set up the kernel, fstab, grub, and install additional packages. Then reboot up on the partition you installed it on (provided you set up grub/kernel right) |
| 05:31.21 | somiaj | mrgordon: running debian squeeze? |
| 05:31.33 | mrgordon | Yes sir. |
| 05:31.46 | somiaj | ,versions python |
| 05:31.48 | judd | Package: python on i386 -- lenny: 2.5.2-3; squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze6; sid: 2.7.2-9; wheezy: 2.7.2-9 |
| 05:31.52 | somiaj | its 2.6.6 |
| 05:32.14 | mrgordon | hmmm |
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| 05:32.22 | mrgordon | let me get back to you on that. :) |
| 05:32.36 | somiaj | ,versions pithos |
| 05:32.36 | judd | Package: pithos on i386 -- sid: 0.3.11-1; wheezy: 0.3.11-1 |
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| 05:32.58 | somiaj | do you want the version in wheezy? You may just want to make a backport of it. |
| 05:33.09 | mrgordon | somiaj, what about these packages python-distutils-extra python2.6 python-xdg python-dbus \ |
| 05:33.10 | mrgordon | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.10 | mrgordon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:33.47 | arghx | mrgordon: which debian do you run? |
| 05:33.52 | somiaj | mrgordon: python is the meta package, python2.6 is the actual package. Installying python will install python2.6 |
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| 05:34.14 | somiaj | mrgordon: what is complaing about those packages? How are you installing pithos? |
| 05:34.40 | Meier | on join spam from prixaplan |
| 05:34.43 | mrgordon | wait wait |
| 05:34.56 | acu_ | how do I send message to myself /msg fai! |
| 05:34.58 | mrgordon | slaps himself |
| 05:35.08 | acu_ | !fai |
| 05:35.08 | dpkg | Fully Automatic Installation (FAI) is an automated tool to install or deploy Debian GNU/Linux (and other distributions) on a bunch of different hosts or a cluster. It is more flexible than tools like <kickstart> (Red Hat), autoyast and alice (SuSE) or jumpstart (Sun Solaris). FAI can also be used for configuration management of a running system. http://fai-project.org/ #fai on irc.oftc.net. |
| 05:35.15 | mrgordon | my mistake guys ignore that python stuff. |
| 05:35.15 | arghx | acu_: /msg dpkg fai |
| 05:35.26 | mrgordon | py works. |
| 05:35.39 | acu_ | thanks arghx - forgot dpkg |
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| 05:36.13 | mrgordon | New question... its about hdparm |
| 05:36.32 | mrgordon | So I've been reading up on it but my disk doesn't seem to support dma |
| 05:36.46 | mrgordon | I ran the hdparm -d option and |
| 05:37.12 | mrgordon | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:37.14 | arghx | mrgordon: what disk is this? and what does dmesg|grep -i dma say? |
| 05:38.50 | mrgordon | http://codepad.org/MHaoIRmg |
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| 05:40.28 | arghx | mrgordon: nice but irrelevant |
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| 05:42.13 | MaXim_ | somiaj: now my sound doesn't work at all :S |
| 05:42.46 | MaXim_ | the modules are loaded but no audio app is able to work |
| 05:42.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps I am haivng an issue understandin the sensors.conf, I dont see any temp sets for it87 does this mean I cant set them?? |
| 05:42.55 | somiaj | MaXim_: any errors when you reloaded the modules, did you check cat /proc/asound/cards or alasamixer |
| 05:42.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | I get weird errors when I try too |
| 05:43.29 | MaXim_ | no errors |
| 05:43.32 | acu_ | if I boot a system with a live CD - how can I install debian in that computer ? |
| 05:43.33 | MaXim_ | and card appears in alsamixer |
| 05:43.42 | somiaj | acu_: use debootstrap |
| 05:43.58 | somiaj | acu_: http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
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| 05:44.14 | acu_ | :) I can't escape from that, do I somiaj ? |
| 05:44.56 | somiaj | acu_: I don't see why you would want to. It's a nice way to do it. |
| 05:45.47 | arghx | acu_: various debian live cds also come with a debian installer |
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| 05:46.23 | MaXim_ | hmm well i guess that alsa simply has dodgy support for my hardware |
| 05:46.31 | acu_ | I will give a shot at it :) I was looking perhaps for fai - it seem similar to kickstart |
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| 05:47.00 | somiaj | MaXim_: suspend has always been a bit shakey on newer hardware, some modules dont' recover form it to well. I was hoping removing the module and then installing it worked fine |
| 05:47.13 | somiaj | MaXim_: can you remove the module and then reinstall it just fine with out a suspend and keep your audio? |
| 05:47.21 | arghx | acu_: fai is for automated installations. used if you have 500 identical PCs you need debian on |
| 05:47.58 | acu_ | arghx: it would be good exercise, and if it works for 500 it should work for one :) |
| 05:48.02 | MaXim_ | my computer is 5 years old :) |
| 05:48.17 | somiaj | MaXim_: what sound card? |
| 05:48.23 | acu_ | MaXim: immature, is not even in first grade |
| 05:48.24 | MaXim_ | onkyo SE-200PCI |
| 05:48.40 | MaXim_ | via envy24HT chipset |
| 05:49.33 | MaXim_ | brb anyway, i need to reboot |
| 05:50.28 | acu_ | MaXim_ are you sure the volume is up - sound not mutted in alsamixer ? |
| 05:51.00 | acu_ | what debian have you installed ? |
| 05:51.25 | cardamon{m} | I've got an ancient game I'm trying to get up and running on here, and it's complaining about a missing ./nwmain: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 05:51.48 | cardamon{m} | Didn't mean to copy and paste that. Damn newline. But that's essentially it. |
| 05:51.50 | MaXim_ | acu_: testing |
| 05:52.03 | MaXim_ | ive had this problem for years though |
| 05:52.14 | MaXim_ | just trying to weed it out in my spare time |
| 05:52.40 | cardamon{m} | I have mesa installed...it's got them in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 |
| 05:52.45 | acu_ | I see, do not know about that - more than one sound server can also anihilate each other - pulse and alsa - I forgot, not energy and neurons left |
| 05:53.03 | somiaj | acu_: alsa isn't a sound server though. |
| 05:53.37 | acu_ | cardamon - I do not have to much expertise - is it possible that you need a library found only in the proprietary driver (e.g. NVDIDIA ?) |
| 05:53.47 | MaXim_ | I have a personal vendetta with pulseaudio |
| 05:53.59 | MaXim_ | thus it has been banished from my system for as long as i've known about it |
| 05:54.10 | somiaj | cardamon{m}: does 'glxinfo' or 'glxgears' work? |
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| 05:54.50 | cardamon{m} | somiaj: Yes. I think it's a matter of the program not looking in the right places. |
| 05:54.51 | somiaj | cardamon{m}: the game is a 32bit binary, you need to make sure you have the 32bit libs installed. the x86_64-linux-gnu is the 64 bit libary |
| 05:55.04 | cardamon{m} | Okay, what package would that be? |
| 05:55.15 | somiaj | cardamon{m}: no its a 32bit binary cannot link to a 64bit libary |
| 05:55.19 | MaXim_ | hm yea |
| 05:55.26 | MaXim_ | it appears my sound stops working completely if i reload the modules |
| 05:55.40 | somiaj | cardamon{m}: do you use the nvidia drivers? Or some other video drivers? |
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| 05:56.10 | acu_ | gotogo see you around guys - thanks to all - somiaj :) |
| 05:56.24 | somiaj | cardamon{m}: ia32-libs should be the package you need. |
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| 05:59.50 | aidalgol | Flash just nuked my system's audio. Now nothing will play sound. It didn't just mute the sound, it killed it. How do I fix this? |
| 06:00.03 | arghx | !alsa checklist |
| 06:00.04 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer to unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense if available) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 06:00.13 | cardamon{m} | guh, that didn't work |
| 06:01.27 | aidalgol | All but Master and Capture are gone from alsamixer. |
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| 06:02.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | ugh thi stuff is driving me crazy |
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| 06:03.01 | aidalgol | OK, I went through the checklist. Still broken. |
| 06:03.13 | MaXim_ | aidalgol: try typing alsa force-reload |
| 06:03.14 | arghx | aidalgol: check your kernel log |
| 06:03.30 | Pegasus_RPG | hello. How can I find out what compile-time options were used for a particular package in the Squeeze repo? (Asterisk, specifically.) |
| 06:03.46 | aidalgol | MaXim_: That worked. Thanks! |
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| 06:03.53 | arghx | Pegasus_RPG: get the source and check in debian/ |
| 06:04.02 | somiaj | Pegasus_RPG: you can check the source pcakge, either install it from a deb-src in your sources.list or use packages.debian.org |
| 06:04.02 | MaXim_ | cool |
| 06:04.04 | MaXim_ | wish it worked for me =_= |
| 06:04.23 | Pegasus_RPG | cool, thanks |
| 06:04.27 | somiaj | MaXim_: dmesg doesn't list any errors when you try to force unload and then reload the module without rebooting? |
| 06:04.29 | somiaj | or suspending |
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| 06:04.34 | MaXim_ | nothing |
| 06:04.49 | MaXim_ | but doing so will just nuke my audio until i reboot |
| 06:05.08 | Pegasus_RPG | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.31 | Pegasus_RPG | they just IMed a spam link |
| 06:05.59 | cardamon{m} | Here's a fun one: I ran my game old game's script, it exited without an error. and messed up my resolution. |
| 06:06.15 | somiaj | cardamon{m}: xrandr |
| 06:06.35 | cardamon{m} | somiaj: Yeah, I fixed it. |
| 06:06.40 | cardamon{m} | but that's annoying. |
| 06:07.10 | MaXim_ | oh well |
| 06:07.16 | MaXim_ | worth filing a bug report methinks |
| 06:07.25 | MaXim_ | since it's been like this for as long as i can remember |
| 06:07.47 | MaXim_ | even on other linux distros |
| 06:07.51 | Pegasus_RPG | somiaj: uhh, where specifically do I look? I've never used source pakages before. Is there a standard file name? |
| 06:08.25 | Pegasus_RPG | oh wait, rules looks interesting |
| 06:08.44 | somiaj | Pegasus_RPG: debian/ contains all the debian info, rules is the scripts used to generate the binary. there is usualy a CONFIGOPTS |
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| 06:18.21 | aminpy | can anybody help to install http://dpaste.com/637733/ <- in macbook pro? |
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| 06:19.55 | arghx | aminpy: which debian? |
| 06:20.13 | aminpy | arghx, squeeze |
| 06:20.25 | aminpy | sorry\ |
| 06:20.32 | aminpy | arghx, wheezy |
| 06:20.42 | arghx | get xorg from backports and get the non-free radeon firmware from wheezy |
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| 06:20.54 | arghx | wheezy should support the 6600 afaik |
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| 06:21.54 | arghx | aminpy: describe your problem better if you need more help |
| 06:22.05 | aminpy | arghx, ok |
| 06:22.31 | aminpy | arghx, first I installed squeeze then I upgrade it to wheezy |
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| 06:24.28 | arghx | aminpy: pertinent information to your problem please |
| 06:24.30 | cardamon{m} | I've got a very old game, Neverwinter Nights, that I just freshly installed. It crashes right out of the gate, without any useful error message, messing up the resolution in the process. Any idea how to diagnos? |
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| 06:25.24 | arghx | cardamon{m}: logfiles |
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| 06:25.40 | arghx | also redirect its stdout and stderr to files |
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| 06:27.36 | J_Rey | if it messes up the display resolution then maybe check X logs also |
| 06:27.50 | aminpy | arghx, I upgraded every thing to wheezy except these packages -> http://dpaste.com/637736/ |
| 06:28.10 | arghx | aminpy: that's your X server. which needs to run wheezy |
| 06:28.27 | arghx | aminpy: any special reason why you didn't upgrade those? |
| 06:28.59 | aminpy | arghx, when I upgrade these packages my system doesn't start |
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| 06:29.25 | arghx | aminpy: it does. just check why X doesn't start |
| 06:29.32 | somiaj | aminpy: what video driver? |
| 06:29.35 | arghx | or rather, gives you a black screen |
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| 06:30.03 | aminpy | arghx, black screen |
| 06:30.31 | arghx | then you need to check your xorg log. why is it that you run wheezy? |
| 06:31.09 | cardamon{m} | arghx: Checked kern.log but don't see anything of use. |
| 06:31.47 | arghx | cardamon{m}: why did you look in that one of all places? |
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| 06:33.20 | cardamon{m} | arghx: Because I don't know what I'm doing, so I looked in the last one too look it the last time I was trying to find something. |
| 06:35.04 | arghx | NWN has a linux server or is it WINE? |
| 06:35.13 | cardamon{m} | Linux binaries. |
| 06:36.08 | cardamon{m} | My guess is I'm using 64bit libs when I need to be using 32bit. |
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| 06:42.05 | arghx | cardamon{m}: file <NWN server binary> |
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| 06:44.35 | ompaul | has no idea what that last line was about, but it is worth knowing that "file FileNameGoesHere" tends to work out what the file is about |
| 06:45.04 | ompaul | handy when you (or your users) get a file with no extension and you are asked to advise them |
| 06:45.20 | ompaul | file foo turns out to be odf ms word or pdf etc |
| 06:46.01 | arghx | in this case, it tells him if it's a 64bit or 32bit ELF. hopefully |
| 06:46.23 | arghx | cardamon{m}: if you want to check if all libs are available, "ldd <binary>" is a good start |
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| 06:46.54 | francesi82 | ciao |
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| 06:47.13 | cardamon{m} | arghx: There're all there. |
| 06:47.18 | heroxbd | How guys and gals, what package can I use to make a phone call via 56k v.92 hard modem from PC? |
| 06:47.33 | heroxbd | is there a library for me to do it automatically? |
| 06:47.47 | cardamon{m} | trying an alt method. |
| 06:47.53 | cardamon{m} | If it fails, I'll ask again tomorrow. |
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| 06:48.47 | ompaul | heroxbd: voice call? |
| 06:49.09 | ompaul | heroxbd: data call? |
| 06:50.12 | heroxbd | ompaul: voice call into pstn. |
| 06:50.37 | heroxbd | ompaul: to and from public telephony systems. |
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| 06:53.07 | ompaul | you want a computer to act as a phone ... http://www.the-asterisk-book.com/unstable/minimale-telefonanlage.html is a small phone system but it relies on having broadband and I think it might be a tad complex to do on one line |
| 06:53.17 | DogBoy | yea asterisk |
| 06:53.22 | aminpy | somiaj, 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09) |
| 06:53.23 | aminpy | 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) |
| 06:53.23 | aminpy | 00:01.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) |
| 06:53.23 | aminpy | 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04) |
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| 06:53.38 | DogBoy | it's not so hard |
| 06:53.39 | aminpy | 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev b5) |
| 06:53.41 | aminpy | 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b5) |
| 06:53.43 | aminpy | 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Device 1c27 (rev 05) |
| 06:53.45 | ompaul | aminpy: top |
| 06:53.45 | aminpy | 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 05) |
| 06:53.47 | ompaul | stop |
| 06:53.48 | aminpy | 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 05) |
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| 06:53.50 | aminpy | 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 05) |
| 06:53.55 | aminpy | 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05) |
| 06:53.57 | aminpy | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series] |
| 06:53.59 | aminpy | 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device aa90 |
| 06:54.01 | DogBoy | wow |
| 06:54.01 | aminpy | 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM57765 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10) |
| 06:54.03 | aminpy | 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 02) |
| 06:54.05 | aminpy | 04:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW |
| 06:54.07 | aminpy | sorry |
| 06:54.22 | ompaul | ctrl c and quitting so you don't spam a channel |
| 06:54.49 | aminpy | http://dpaste.com/637743/ |
| 06:54.50 | heroxbd | ompaul: DogBoy , Is a PBX needed for such a purpose? |
| 06:55.06 | ompaul | heroxbd: the problem is the modem you can get voicemail software and you need to turn the computer into the pbx |
| 06:55.15 | DogBoy | well |
| 06:55.16 | aminpy | arghx, where is the xorg log? |
| 06:55.23 | DogBoy | I forget what it's called, I have one |
| 06:55.37 | DogBoy | but you need a device that goes between the pots and the computer |
| 06:55.53 | DogBoy | ask in #asterisk |
| 06:55.54 | ompaul | speak easy hylafax and things like that but |
| 06:56.24 | DogBoy | you can also just use a softphone |
| 06:56.24 | ompaul | heroxbd: you are about 15 years after that kind of thing used to have me rattle things off :) |
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| 06:56.29 | heroxbd | DogBoy: ompaul, Thanks, give me some time to reflect for a while. this is totally new to me |
| 06:56.30 | DogBoy | and do voip |
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| 06:56.54 | DogBoy | with voip you can access the pots |
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| 06:58.03 | heroxbd | actually, what i want to achieve is a alarming system. When the system has trouble, the monitoring daemon calls the system administrator's mobile phone. |
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| 07:03.48 | aminpy | arghx, Xorg log has a huge content! |
| 07:03.54 | aminpy | how can I find ...! |
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| 07:16.08 | francesi82 | ciao |
| 07:16.24 | francesi82 | ciao mario+ |
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| 07:16.36 | arghx | francesi82: do you have a debian support question? |
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| 08:01.50 | Sevet | hi guys. is there a reason debian testing still has mysql 5.1, not 5.5? |
| 08:02.33 | simonlnu | because it doesn't |
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| 08:05.18 | ubsafder | i am trying to install a nslu2 with debian says mirror are not good . should i point to some archives mirror |
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| 08:06.46 | arghx | ubsafder: which mirror are you trying to use, and which debian version? |
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| 08:11.20 | ubsafder | i am unsure the version of the firmware i used to flash the installer but i was trying the us mirror ftp.us.debian.org |
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| 08:16.01 | chamith | Hey fellow Debs |
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| 08:16.30 | cardamon | Got it. |
| 08:16.58 | cardamon | but I hate how I can't tab complete when sudo'ing. |
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| 08:18.57 | Madpilot | hey, is there a specific channel for Debian Live questions, or should I just ask here? |
| 08:20.06 | ubsafder | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:22.02 | ubsafder | i am sure my network setting are ok as i am sshing to it |
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| 08:23.21 | Madpilot | Is there a Debian Live ISO that actually fits on a CD-R? The one I just downloaded is 1.1Gb, just a bit big for a CD... |
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| 08:23.48 | mistymoo | . |
| 08:24.06 | Shadur | People still use CD-roms? |
| 08:24.18 | MaXim_ | I use CDs all the time |
| 08:24.28 | rotflcopter | dvds are better |
| 08:24.44 | cardamon | I use a flash drive |
| 08:24.54 | ubsafder | Madpilot: you should find a knoppix cd still on the net |
| 08:25.02 | rotflcopter | though if you write 100MB on it, then throw away, not really a matter |
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| 08:25.55 | Madpilot | I always use CD-Rs for live images, I have to confess. I am aware of live-USB, never bothered with it. |
| 08:25.55 | rotflcopter | i'd prefer a mini-dvd instead of a cd |
| 08:26.30 | rotflcopter | pendrive is not that cheap ;) |
| 08:26.38 | arghx | Madpilot: why do you need a live cd exactly? |
| 08:27.00 | Madpilot | arghx, to try Debian Live w/o having to install it |
| 08:27.17 | rotflcopter | i was thinking about a systemrescuecd |
| 08:27.29 | rotflcopter | or usb stick rescue system |
| 08:28.06 | Madpilot | I have a 2GB USB key, empty, but haven't ever actually set up a live USB... and the Debian Live docs are written for devs, not users... |
| 08:28.14 | rotflcopter | does all usb sticks have write-protect? |
| 08:29.48 | MaXim_ | live usb is not hard at al |
| 08:29.50 | MaXim_ | but |
| 08:30.01 | MaXim_ | i install debian on a lot of machines without usb boot or usb 2.0 |
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| 08:37.27 | jxrgx | hi all |
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| 08:42.17 | Madpilot | oh, ffs. why would dd claim "no space left on device" when trying to move a 1.1Gb iso to a 1.9Gb usb key? |
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| 08:49.25 | Madpilot | so, does format of the damn usb key matter here? it's stock fat32 currently, and certainly big enough to take the debian live iso... |
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| 08:54.34 | Madpilot | anybody? these -> http://live.debian.net/manual/en/html/the-basics.html#181 <- are not complex instructions, but they don't seem to be working... |
| 08:54.41 | nkuttler | !tell Madpilot about ig |
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| 08:55.18 | nkuttler | that says nothing about "moving" the file |
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| 08:56.11 | Madpilot | I'm using the Debian Live ISO, not the standard Debian one. Attempting to try Debian out, without actually installing it... |
| 08:56.38 | nkuttler | oh you want to boot the live cd iso from usb? |
| 08:56.53 | Madpilot | nkuttler, that's the theory. |
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| 08:57.41 | nkuttler | and which os are you using right now? |
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| 08:57.51 | Madpilot | nkuttler, Ubuntu currently |
| 08:58.08 | nkuttler | and which command produced the error? |
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| 08:58.43 | Madpilot | "sudo dd if=debian-live-6.0.3-i386-gnome-desktop.iso of=/dev/disk/sdb" |
| 08:59.19 | nkuttler | no idea then |
| 09:00.09 | sephii | Madpilot: are you sure your usb key is in /dev/disk/sdb? |
| 09:00.14 | yagoo | Madpilot, oh really? that's all? |
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| 09:00.47 | Madpilot | sephii, yes, I confirmed that with "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id" |
| 09:01.20 | Madpilot | sda is my SATA HDD, sdb is the usb key |
| 09:01.34 | nkuttler | Madpilot: cat /proc/partitions |
| 09:01.45 | kokopelli | j root |
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| 09:02.49 | Madpilot | nkuttler, shows the same as the ls command - sda is a two-partition HDD, sdb is the usb key |
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| 09:03.01 | Madpilot | one sec, will pastebin a couple of things |
| 09:03.32 | nkuttler | Madpilot: df -i |
| 09:04.41 | cardamon | Hey gang, got a bash script that sets a few system variables then executes something else. Someone recommended boosting performance on it by adding nice -n -10 to the line that executes. I tried that, but it complains about permission. |
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| 09:05.44 | Madpilot | nkuttler, that shows "sdb1" is the Corsair USB key... the Debian Live docs explicitly say to dd to the main device, tho, not a partition |
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| 09:07.02 | Madpilot | http://paste.ubuntu.com/713986/ <- two dd attempts, and the df -i output |
| 09:07.33 | nkuttler | 0 inodes.. |
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| 09:08.25 | nkuttler | Madpilot: try a mkfs.ext3 on the usb stick |
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| 09:12.16 | somiaj | Madpilot: of=/dev/sdb1 (what is this /dev/disk/sdb1?) |
| 09:12.50 | Madpilot | right, df -i now shows "/dev/sdb1 125184 11 125173 1% /media/7f219288-770b-4307-ac9" |
| 09:13.24 | somiaj | also I'd suggest umounting that before writing to the partition and changing the file system |
| 09:13.41 | nkuttler | Madpilot: so try again |
| 09:13.50 | Madpilot | I did, no worries, now remounted and trying the dd command again |
| 09:13.52 | nkuttler | the second command |
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| 09:14.27 | Madpilot | wtf? dd still saying "No space left on device" |
| 09:14.29 | pujger | I'm trying to go to a website using lynx at command prompt and it |
| 09:14.34 | pujger | I'm trying to go to a website using lynx at command prompt and it's not working. Why? |
| 09:14.57 | somiaj | pujger: lynx google.com -- what errors? |
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| 09:15.39 | pujger | Error opening terminal: tty. |
| 09:15.56 | pujger | (B)0[1;24r[m[?7h[?1h=[H[J[21B[0;7mGetting http://www.google.com/[m |
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| 09:16.00 | pujger | [24;1H |
| 09:16.02 | pujger | Looking up localhost:8081 |
| 09:16.03 | pujger | That's the error it gives |
| 09:16.06 | pujger | Making HTTP connection to localhost:8081 |
| 09:16.08 | pujger | Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. |
| 09:16.11 | pujger | lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.google.com/ |
| 09:16.16 | nkuttler | !tell pujger about paste |
| 09:16.51 | pujger | every connection seems to go to what HTTP Ripper used to be assigned to, localhost:8081 |
| 09:17.20 | nkuttler | Madpilot: it's starting to sounds like your device isn't big enough |
| 09:17.49 | sephii | you should not have it mounted to execute the dd command |
| 09:17.53 | Madpilot | nkuttler, it's a 1.1Gb ISO, and a 2Gb (1.8something Gb) USB key... |
| 09:18.03 | nkuttler | Madpilot: that's what you say |
| 09:18.10 | somiaj | Madpilot: are you still using /dev/disk/sdb1 or /dev/sdb1? |
| 09:18.53 | sephii | and you should not do the dd on the partition (sdb1) but on the disk (sdb) |
| 09:19.38 | chrissbx | Is there no way to compile 64 bit (a kernel) on a 32 bit Debian, short of recompiling gcc from scratch? |
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| 09:19.44 | sephii | Now if dd still complaints, try formatting the disk in ext3 and cp the iso on it. If cp complaints about space, you have a problem with your usb stick. If it doesn't... i don't know |
| 09:19.59 | Madpilot | sephii, just unmounted the thing, changed my dd command slightly, might be working now... stand by... |
| 09:20.05 | pujger | How do I disable http ripper's localhost:8081 toggle |
| 09:20.08 | pujger | it's now 808 |
| 09:20.09 | pujger | it's now 8080 |
| 09:20.23 | pujger | doesn't anyone else here use HTTP ripper? |
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| 09:20.25 | Madpilot | it hasn't thrown the same error msg yet, at least. |
| 09:20.38 | boudiccas | pujger; never heard of it |
| 09:21.06 | nkuttler | pujger: it's not in debian, how did you install it? |
| 09:21.20 | muts_ | I'm trying to deboostrap, and it fails with an empty dpkg line, anyone familiar with deboostrap ? |
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| 09:21.57 | pujger | I went to http://29a.ch/httpripper |
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| 09:22.07 | pujger | that's how I got it |
| 09:22.20 | pujger | It's a python script that works in a similar way to JDownloader for Windows |
| 09:22.42 | pujger | but not really, it is a proxy server that does it for the default browser, so you can see every web file access |
| 09:23.06 | boudiccas | pujger; never heard of that either! you do choose the most obscure software |
| 09:23.08 | pujger | right now my lynx thinks it's still localhost:8081, when now it is localhost8080 |
| 09:23.11 | nkuttler | pujger: how did you install it? not where did you download the installer |
| 09:23.27 | muts_ | and when i try to run the pbuilder wrapper, i get W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/build/1315/. dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.22_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_5.0.0ubuntu28_amd64.deb |
| 09:23.38 | muts_ | looks like a dependency issue |
| 09:23.59 | muts_ | and advice would be appreciated |
| 09:24.47 | muts_ | and = any |
| 09:24.52 | boudiccas | muts_; you're ixing ubuntu and debian software, a recipe for disaster |
| 09:24.57 | pujger | I instaI installed it by typing dpkg -i httpripper_1.1.1_all.deb |
| 09:24.58 | boudiccas | mixing |
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| 09:25.15 | nkuttler | pujger: so remove the package |
| 09:25.20 | pujger | k |
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| 09:26.04 | muts_ | boudiccas, i'm actually using ubuntu, via the ubuntu pbuilder process⦠but i was hoping to be able to adapt... |
| 09:26.23 | muts_ | is looks like a trivial issue to solve, once you know where to acccess the debbuilder config (?) |
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| 09:26.47 | pujger | when I try to install or uninstall anything or purge anything, it says error messages like |
| 09:26.50 | pujger | pulseaudio-utils : Depends: libpulse0 (= 0.9.21-3+squeeze1) but 0.9.23-1 is to be installed |
| 09:26.53 | boudiccas | muts_; well if you're using ubuntu you should ask in #ubuntu we cant help you |
| 09:27.03 | pujger | But I needed to install the newer packages to install wheezy wine or squeeze |
| 09:27.11 | sephii | pujger: try and apt-get install -f first |
| 09:27.22 | pujger | I did, it still shows that stuff |
| 09:27.28 | pujger | multiarch-support : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.13-5) but 2.11.2-10 is installed |
| 09:27.30 | sephii | s/and/an |
| 09:27.34 | simonlnu | pujger: did you edit your sources.list and include some wheezy/testing sutff? |
| 09:27.37 | muts_ | boudiccas, i was just hoping for some general advice⦠this is the error i get when trying to run the chroot + dpkg command directly - http://pastebin.com/6my78Sq0 |
| 09:27.46 | pujger | simonlnu: No, should I? |
| 09:27.50 | simonlnu | yup, lookatthat that's wheezy |
| 09:27.53 | simonlnu | no |
| 09:27.54 | boudiccas | muts_; we cant help you, ask in #ubuntu |
| 09:28.22 | simonlnu | ,versions libc6 |
| 09:28.22 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze: 2.11.2-10; sid: 2.13-21; wheezy: 2.13-21 |
| 09:28.23 | boudiccas | muts_; have a nice day |
| 09:28.52 | pujger | what do I put in my sources.list? Just replace it with wheezy then? |
| 09:28.59 | simonlnu | no |
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| 09:29.05 | muts_ | boudiccas, thanks |
| 09:29.05 | pujger | But I want wine only, I want to keep squeeze because isn't it more stable? |
| 09:29.15 | boudiccas | qiyong; we cant help you, ask in #ubuntu |
| 09:29.18 | simonlnu | pujger: pastebin it please |
| 09:29.19 | qiyong | can I create database during pkg installation? |
| 09:29.37 | pujger | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free ? |
| 09:29.37 | qiyong | boudiccas: this is about debian pkging |
| 09:29.38 | pujger | okay |
| 09:30.11 | boudiccas | qiyong; but you're running ubuntu which we dont support, ask in #ubuntu |
| 09:30.12 | nkuttler | qiyong: which package and db? |
| 09:30.16 | simonlnu | qiyong: a) context b) ask in #ubuntu. you run ubuntu, ask there |
| 09:30.20 | muts_ | hehe |
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| 09:30.23 | nkuttler | he is? |
| 09:30.38 | simonlnu | yes. he's asked here for support numerous times |
| 09:30.41 | muts_ | 5 minutes int his channel, and i think you guys need a bot for an "!ubuntu" command :) |
| 09:30.48 | nkuttler | !ubuntu |
| 09:30.49 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 09:30.52 | muts_ | LOL |
| 09:30.52 | qiyong | nkuttler: i want to make a pkg, i already have one with dh, i want to create mysql db in it |
| 09:31.14 | muts_ | fair enough |
| 09:31.42 | qiyong | the pkg is targeting at debian |
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| 09:32.31 | simonlnu | pujger: url for the pastebin too ;) |
| 09:32.43 | muts_ | boudiccas, may i pm ? |
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| 09:32.46 | PhoenixSTF | hey guys, |
| 09:32.50 | boudiccas | muts_; no |
| 09:32.54 | qiyong | should I ask deb pkg problem here? |
| 09:33.14 | sauvin | qiyong, you're using ubuntu, yes? |
| 09:33.26 | PhoenixSTF | how do i create a ext4 fs, with performance for very large files |
| 09:33.35 | muts_ | wowza, issues here |
| 09:33.37 | muts_ | have a nice one |
| 09:33.43 | qiyong | sauvin: this is not a distro problem, i use various distros, debian, ub, rhel, ok |
| 09:33.47 | simonlnu | qiyong: if you're packaging something for debian, you should maybe ask in #debian-mentors (at oftc) |
| 09:34.00 | simonlnu | qiyong: irc.oftc.net |
| 09:34.14 | zophy | which package installs open office for the testing dist ? |
| 09:34.24 | simonlnu | libreoffice |
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| 09:34.48 | qiyong | simonlnu: so here people don't talk about pkging/scripting? |
| 09:34.58 | simonlnu | hmm, gnome 3 supports apps/libs trickling in |
| 09:35.19 | simonlnu | qiyong: they do, but the other channel is suggested to them |
| 09:35.32 | qiyong | simonlnu: k |
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| 09:36.29 | pujger | Guy who said to do pastebin: http://pastebin.com/L0VTNrCR |
| 09:36.38 | simonlnu | ty |
| 09:36.47 | pujger | How do I get rid of that stuff, add deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 09:37.14 | simonlnu | pujger: i asked for your sources.list not the output of the install trial |
| 09:37.38 | simonlnu | unles someone else did and i didn't see that |
| 09:37.58 | pujger | oh |
| 09:38.39 | pujger | http://pastebin.com/jMe4m5b1 |
| 09:38.40 | pujger | there |
| 09:38.58 | simonlnu | it is enlightening however |
| 09:39.01 | simonlnu | ty |
| 09:39.28 | pujger | All I need to know is: how do I stop it from asking for older libraries |
| 09:39.39 | pujger | clear |
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| 09:40.09 | simonlnu | that's a mess. but certainly understandable... have you updated recently? |
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| 09:40.46 | olzin | hi I would like to download debian 5 lenny |
| 09:40.50 | pujger | No |
| 09:40.57 | streuner__ | olzin: /msg dpkg lenny |
| 09:40.57 | pujger | What I did was install a few wheezy packages |
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| 09:41.11 | pujger | I installed wine 1.3.28 because the one that came with squeeze was way out of date |
| 09:41.17 | simonlnu | pujger: yeh, well you can't mix'n'match like that |
| 09:41.26 | pujger | but to do this, I had to install newer versions of audio packages and openssl-1.0.0 |
| 09:41.34 | boudiccas | pujger; mixing versions is a recipe for disaster |
| 09:41.38 | simonlnu | *facepalm* |
| 09:41.48 | pujger | I mix and matched just fine, it's that if I try to install any new package audio related, it can't be installed even with apt-get -f install package |
| 09:42.02 | pujger | so maybe I should just upgrade to wheezy? and if so, how could I do this |
| 09:42.26 | simonlnu | uuh, that's not "just fine". you may do it just fine, but you get to keep both pieces after. |
| 09:43.07 | simonlnu | at this point i would either remove the offending packages, and build backports, or move to wheezy. |
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| 09:43.33 | simonlnu | because frankly that's a goddamn mess you have there |
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| 09:43.58 | PhoenixSTF | does anyone advice Bigger inode size for ext4? |
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| 09:45.14 | boudiccas | PhoenixSTF; bigger than what? |
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| 09:45.43 | pujger | also another question: is QQ spyware? |
| 09:45.46 | pujger | Tencent QQ |
| 09:46.23 | PhoenixSTF | boudiccas, bigger then the default, i want a fast fs for backup and other stuff, raid and non raid. |
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| 09:47.39 | boudiccas | PhoenixSTF; i'd stick with the default that is know to work faultlessly. as soon as you start changing the defaults you introduce the possibility of corruption down the line |
| 09:47.51 | boudiccas | known |
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| 09:48.20 | simonlnu | pujger: yes |
| 09:48.43 | PhoenixSTF | boudiccas, yah i was afraid of that, bigger inodes might mean more possibility to corrupt data |
| 09:48.56 | boudiccas | PhoenixSTF; yes |
| 09:49.14 | pujger | If I installed the windows version with wine, would it still be spyware? |
| 09:49.26 | pujger | Is there a linux open source version then |
| 09:49.34 | PhoenixSTF | boudiccas, but if something goes wrong with the FS, cheking all the inodes takes a lifetime |
| 09:49.37 | simonlnu | of course. not that i know of. |
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| 09:50.52 | francesi82 | ciao |
| 09:51.01 | francesi82 | italian |
| 09:51.23 | francesi82 | speak_is |
| 09:51.25 | arghx | !it |
| 09:51.25 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 09:51.50 | francesi82 | #debian-it |
| 09:52.02 | arghx | francesi82: /join #debian-it |
| 09:52.20 | francesi82 | speak_is |
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| 09:52.59 | sephii | pujger: you should avoid installing windows software on your machine, especially if that's not free software. You should look for alternatives |
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| 09:54.46 | arghx | pujger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent_QQ#Open_source_and_cross-platform_clients |
| 09:54.58 | Bushmills | careful - he's known to troll, and spam the channel with random chars if he feels that people don't react to his trolling |
| 09:55.23 | Bushmills | i got him on igore, only seeing that he's on from replies |
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| 10:15.22 | ws2k3 | hello people i'm looking for a CLI tool to manage startup in debian init1 etc |
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| 10:16.49 | babilen | ws2k3: Look into rcconf and sysv-rc-conf |
| 10:17.16 | babilen | ws2k3: You probably should also read "man insserv" |
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| 10:29.07 | Bushmills | for command line manipulation, consider to use ed or sed |
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| 10:43.57 | zamba | i've ended up getting a debian installation where i have mixed arch.. how can i fix that? |
| 10:45.41 | streuner | zamba: please show us your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 10:46.02 | jimcooncat | need a usb wifi adapter, what models get automatically recognised? |
| 10:46.50 | bony | jimcooncat: well i tried belkin but it required some drivers to be loaded |
| 10:46.51 | colo-work | jimcooncat, you can't be sure which chipset you'll get |
| 10:46.59 | olzin | thanks streuner |
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| 10:50.22 | zamba | streuner: http://pastebin.com/JjRb7qt7 |
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| 10:50.35 | zamba | streuner: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is empty |
| 10:52.04 | streuner | zamba: well, i would use an official italian server like ftp.it.debian.org |
| 10:53.09 | _Dave123_ | whats a good vpn client for debian to connect to a openvpn server? |
| 10:53.38 | streuner | zamba: for example - deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib |
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| 10:54.03 | streuner | zamba: what kind of error do you get at all? |
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| 10:55.08 | PerfDave | _Dave123_: OpenVPN? |
| 10:55.09 | streuner | zamba: oh, you are in norway, so just use a norwegian server then, if the server is in norway |
| 10:55.23 | PerfDave | _Dave123_: network-manager has OpenVPN plugins which work nicely. |
| 10:55.27 | streuner | zamba: or your destop machine |
| 10:55.36 | zamba | streuner: i'm in norway, but the server isn't |
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| 10:56.01 | _Dave123_ | kinda sucks that there is no such openvpn client for linux |
| 10:56.01 | streuner | zamba: ok, please just tell us what kind of error you get? |
| 10:56.40 | zamba | streuner: # dpkg -i splunkforwarder-4.2.3-105575-linux-2.6-amd64.deb |
| 10:56.40 | zamba | dpkg: error processing splunkforwarder-4.2.3-105575-linux-2.6-amd64.deb (--install): package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386) |
| 10:56.40 | dpkg | zamba: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 10:56.43 | zamba | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 10:56.46 | zamba | damn it, my bad :) |
| 10:56.58 | zamba | http://pastebin.com/tq3fLZXn |
| 10:57.00 | zamba | there you go |
| 10:57.34 | babilen | zamba: You are trying to install an amd64 package on i386 |
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| 10:57.45 | zamba | babilen: see the rest of the pastebin |
| 10:57.53 | streuner | zamba: dpkg already told you, you cannot use an amd64 package for an i386 machine... |
| 10:57.55 | babilen | ack :) |
| 10:58.08 | zamba | streuner: .. see the rest of the pastebin |
| 10:58.15 | streuner | oh |
| 10:58.28 | zamba | there's a reason i'm asking about mixed arch systems |
| 10:58.32 | babilen | zamba: "dpkg --print-architecture" gives you what? |
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| 10:58.44 | zamba | babilen: i386 |
| 10:59.16 | babilen | zamba: So you are running i386 userland with an amd64 kernel -- Use i386 packages in that case. |
| 10:59.23 | zamba | babilen: but how has that happened? |
| 10:59.36 | zamba | babilen: this is a more or less fresh install of debian |
| 10:59.40 | babilen | zamba: Somebody installed the amd64 kernel (which is perfectly fine) |
| 11:00.31 | babilen | zamba: Check you logs ... /var/log/dpkg.log , /var/log/aptitude and/or /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 11:00.37 | babilen | s/you/your |
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| 11:07.21 | capri | i want to auth pam against my own postgres database. i want to create a pam conf, which uses my own sql select statemant, is that possible? |
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| 11:15.37 | dname | Hi. What could be the problem when porting Debian to another motherboard and another CPU and other devices? |
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| 11:16.35 | rst | i'm not sure porting is the right word |
| 11:17.01 | rst | i'm not sure, what is the problem? your drives may be named/ordered differently |
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| 11:18.13 | dname | HHD moved to a different motherboard. Seems to work, the system is running. How do I update my device? On the motherboard were other devices |
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| 11:23.21 | arghx | dname: update what device exactly? |
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| 11:24.24 | dname | how to update the system configuration? In running an older device, the old motherboard |
| 11:24.51 | arghx | dname: linux is not windows |
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| 11:25.20 | arghx | only things you might have to look out for is the bootloader/fstab and X drivers if you use proprietary ones |
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| 11:25.39 | dname | A system already updated the device configuration itself? |
| 11:26.12 | arghx | linux kernels are usually universal. not configuration necessary. again: linux is not windows |
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| 11:27.45 | dname | Then I can safely turn the system and work? |
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| 11:33.40 | Sys_vampire | can somebody help me? i have deb 6.0 installed, kernel 2.6.32-5-686 and i need to use more than 4Gb RAM, but debian can't "see" it |
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| 11:34.09 | devil | Sys_vampire: you need to install the 64-bit version |
| 11:34.24 | babilen | Sys_vampire: You have multiple options: 1. Install the -bigmem (PAE) kernel 2. Install the amd64 kernel 3. Reinstall an amd64 system |
| 11:34.34 | babilen | ah, more than 4GB |
| 11:34.37 | devil | 686 is limited to 3.x ram |
| 11:34.39 | babilen | Yeah, use amd64 |
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| 11:35.21 | babilen | So drop 1. from that list |
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| 11:35.38 | Sys_vampire | devil: can i change kernel, but not re-install debian? too much services are working on it now... |
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| 11:36.22 | devil | Sys_vampire: honestly, i would reinstall the system |
| 11:36.31 | babilen | You would have to reboot -- And yes you can install an amd64 kernel with i386 userland. That might be problematic though if you need to compile kernel modules (think openafs, fglrx, nvidia, ..) |
| 11:36.40 | bzrk | devil: why? 64bit kernel on 32bit userland works fine |
| 11:36.41 | babilen | But I second devil's recommendation |
| 11:36.57 | devil | babilen: it works, yes, |
| 11:37.06 | devil | bzrk: ^ |
| 11:37.16 | Sys_vampire | ok, thanks |
| 11:37.19 | devil | but with limitations. and my experience is poor |
| 11:37.37 | bzrk | i only did it two times but i didnt have any issues |
| 11:37.49 | devil | ymmv |
| 11:37.49 | bzrk | Sys_vampire: so worth a try but be prepared to reinstall |
| 11:37.59 | bzrk | devil: yup |
| 11:38.04 | babilen | Sys_vampire: The sensible thing to do is certainly to reinstall the system. Tricks like "/msg dpkg aptitude clone" and good backups might help to minimise the downtime. |
| 11:38.14 | devil | on a productive system, i would reinstall now. |
| 11:38.38 | devil | but thats just me |
| 11:38.43 | babilen | +1 |
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| 12:29.16 | kinsk | Hello |
| 12:29.42 | kinsk | If I want to install debian testing with a window manager (such as openbox) is it enough to download just the first CD ? |
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| 12:30.53 | sep | kinsk, yes, or just the netinstaller |
| 12:31.42 | kinsk | sep, Great, thanks. |
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| 12:46.21 | KettleCorn | I set up a Cronjob to run at every minute, hour 14 (which is the current hour here in Sweden). The server is a VPS nearby (same timezone). If I type 'date' in the terminal, the time is currently 14:45. Yet the Cronjob wont run. It will, however, run if I ask it to run every minute at hour 12. So it's 2 hours off. How do I remedy this? Other than just 'remember to set good ol' cron 2 hours off..'? |
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| 12:48.32 | abrotman | KettleCorn: hwclock ? |
| 12:48.58 | KettleCorn | abrotman: Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method. |
| 12:49.08 | abrotman | awesome |
| 12:49.13 | KettleCorn | :) |
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| 12:49.26 | arghx | restart cron |
| 12:50.02 | KettleCorn | alright, waiting a few secs to see if it triggers |
| 12:50.33 | KettleCorn | didn't do such.. setting it to hour 12 again so will see in 30 secs if it triggers on 2 hours off still (probably will) |
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| 12:50.45 | Black_Prince | virtual servers do not have access to hardware clock ... maybe your clock is set to utc ... check /etc/default/rcS |
| 12:50.50 | abrotman | sometimes .. i kinda wish VPS systems would die ... |
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| 12:52.07 | KettleCorn | Black_Prince: Yes it says UTC=yes when catting that ouy |
| 12:52.29 | KettleCorn | Should I simply just adapt and write scripts with 2 hours difference? |
| 12:52.47 | KettleCorn | What I find odd is that the cron.log logs everything with 'correct' timestamps.. |
| 12:52.53 | Black_Prince | You can try changing it to UTC=no ... However that would only apply on reboot. I still doubt it would have any effect on virtual systems, since UTC= is meant for hwclock ... |
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| 12:54.55 | KettleCorn | Black_Prince: I can easily change it and reboot - do you think there is any 'risk' in doing so? I mean, in matters of not being able to boot up again. Not that I would hold you responsible, just need a second opinion :) |
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| 12:55.48 | abrotman | KettleCorn: tried installing ntpd or chrony ? |
| 12:56.00 | Devastator-work | abrotman thanks for your help yesterday, as you predicted, I had no problems using netinst with ath9k, I just didn't know d-i didn't had wpa support hehe |
| 12:56.07 | KettleCorn | abrotman: nope, is that recommended? never heard about it |
| 12:56.12 | abrotman | Devastator-work: glad to hear |
| 12:56.16 | Black_Prince | When I changed that, I only got warning from fsck about superblock being in the future or so ... |
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| 12:57.07 | Devastator-work | is there something to check if a device has no driver loaded? |
| 12:57.47 | antimatters | lsmod |
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| 12:58.26 | abrotman | Devastator-work: lspci -k |
| 12:58.56 | Devastator-work | hum... interesting, that way I can see what I didn't configure yet |
| 12:59.33 | Devastator-work | when dealing with laptops it's a pain to know what's installed and what's not |
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| 13:03.58 | berzerka | hi guys. i have a question regarding libtiff on debian. looking at the upstream site (www.remotesensing.org/libtiff), the latest stable release is 3.9.5 and 4.0.0 is in development. i see that libtiff4 provides the 3.9.5 version and libtiff5 (from experimental) provides the 4.0.0 versions. now, the libtiff4 deb provides libtiff.so.4.3.4 which i find rather confusing. my actual problem is that i have a prebuilt lib which requires libtiff.so.3. was |
| 13:03.58 | berzerka | this included in some earlier deb package? or do you have any ideas at which upstream version to look at in order to get the libtiff.so.3? |
| 13:04.23 | KettleCorn | Black_Prince: I tried setting UTC=no, rebooted, same issue. Thanks for tip though |
| 13:05.21 | Black_Prince | as I said before "I still doubt it would have any effect on virtual systems, since UTC= is meant for hwclock ..." and you said before that "Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method." |
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| 13:08.08 | berzerka | i read that people just symlink the newer version to libtiff.so.3, but that seems kind of risky to me, since there supposedly were api changes between those versions. |
| 13:08.28 | KettleCorn | Black_Prince: yeah I know, testing confirmed your thesis :) |
| 13:09.00 | KettleCorn | I got the VPS providers on the issue now |
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| 13:14.34 | xmaz | what does Mapped memory mean? |
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| 13:15.58 | dwfreed | xmaz: mapped memory is a location in memory that has been mapped to a file; reading from this memory location reads from the file, and writing to this memory location writes to the file |
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| 13:17.25 | Sevet | xmaz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory-mapped_file |
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| 13:25.20 | jwaters | hello, I'm looking at building large software raid6 array. Is there a maxium to number drives I can add? Sure more drives I add, the longer rebuilds would be if I lost a drive |
| 13:25.55 | Rienzilla | wouldn't recommend it |
| 13:26.03 | Rienzilla | but I don't think there is a theoretical max |
| 13:26.27 | Rienzilla | or at least, the theoretical max is much larger than what's practical I think :) |
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| 13:27.31 | PerfDave | There comes a point where you look at using RAID-on-RAID to concatenate RAID6 arrays together. |
| 13:27.58 | jwaters | Rienzilla, this will before a D2D2T solution. Atleast for our san provider they say max 8drives for raid6 |
| 13:28.22 | jwaters | Rienzilla, just I'll require about 30TB addressable storage |
| 13:28.33 | Rienzilla | Why not buy a decent 24-port raidcontroller |
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| 13:29.42 | jwaters | Rienzilla, most defiantly an option, just trying to keep costs down. I've done plenty of s/w raids, just nothing on this scale |
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| 13:31.04 | Rienzilla | i think you will be able to put 24 sata disks in a software raid. But given the fact that your average server does not have 24 sata ports i'd say a dedicated controller is much easier |
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| 13:31.12 | Rienzilla | especially automation of rebuilds, disk swaps, etc |
| 13:31.33 | Rienzilla | (and since the odds of replacing a disk or two is significant in a 24-disk array that's gonna matter) |
| 13:31.37 | zamba | hi there! i have two nics in a system and i want to be able to route through both.. if traffic originates from one of the nics, i want to communicate over that, and the same with the other nic |
| 13:31.41 | zamba | can this be done in debian? |
| 13:31.47 | zamba | i understand i need to be using the iproute2 package for that |
| 13:32.20 | PerfDave | zamba: That might be easy, or hard. Are the NICs going to be on the same network segment? |
| 13:33.01 | jwaters | zamba, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 13:33.28 | jwaters | instant gateway |
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| 13:34.59 | jwaters | Rienzilla, I agreee about the automation rebuilds, just not ever had good luck with notifications about failures w/hardware raid controllers on gnulinux |
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| 13:35.48 | berzerka | jwaters: from the mdadm manpage i see that using the old metadata format (0/0.9) you are limited to 28 component devices, the md-1 format seems to allow >256 component devices, but i'm still looking for the official documentation on it. |
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| 13:37.51 | jwaters | berzerka, thanks for info! |
| 13:38.01 | jwaters | Thinking about 5 raid6 arrays with 8 drives a piece. LVM on top to give me large addressable storage space |
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| 13:38.47 | zamba | PerfDave: nope |
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| 13:44.44 | jelly | zamba: yeah. It's packaged as "iproute", and Debian does not provide any infrastructure so you're going to have to set up a second routing table and marks almost manually. |
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| 13:45.42 | PerfDave | zamba: Then it should Just Work |
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| 13:46.32 | zamba | PerfDave: this will be a backup nic for the box |
| 13:46.35 | jelly | it won't Just Work if the services on both IPs are to be accessible from the internet (if he has multihoming) |
| 13:46.48 | superlinux | hi all. I want to share with you this video of my making. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkD_b_7IASs about using xmacroplay |
| 13:46.54 | zamba | yeah, i believe jelly is on to the core of the problem here |
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| 13:47.19 | superlinux | jelly, mate this is my reward to you, the video. |
| 13:47.27 | PerfDave | *shrug* Well, it Just Works for me, but clearly you lot know better, so I'll leave you to it. |
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| 13:48.13 | Rienzilla | jwaters: I can recommend the larger areca controllers for that |
| 13:48.28 | Rienzilla | I have an ARC-1230 (12 port), which has it's own ethernetcontroller |
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| 13:48.40 | Rienzilla | They send notifications independantly from the OS |
| 13:49.08 | jwaters | Rienzilla, thx I'll take look at it |
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| 13:49.31 | cast | evening all |
| 13:49.45 | jelly | zamba: well. Is the machine going to have two separate public IP addresses on different segments? |
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| 13:51.25 | jelly | PerfDave: no need to be condescending. I'd like to clear up the situation before deciding on whether it can work without policy-based routing shenanigans. |
| 13:52.25 | berzerka | jwaters: ok i could not refrain from having a close look. if i understand the kernel code correctly (l. 1543 in drivers/md/md.c, kernel 3.0.0), the maximum number of drives permitted by the md-1 metadata format is hardcoded to (4096-256)/2 which is 1920 devices. |
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| 13:52.45 | berzerka | jwaters: which should be more than you ever need ;) |
| 13:53.46 | jwaters | berzerka, 1st thanks for code dive, info good to have. 2nd I remember my 1st 10mb HD and said I'll never need more than that. |
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| 13:54.17 | berzerka | jwaters: true :) |
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| 13:54.52 | zamba | jelly: yes |
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| 13:57.42 | jwaters | Rienzilla, the areca controller you have, are you using it on a debian box? Typical support RH & suse. |
| 13:57.44 | jelly | then, as far as I know, you need a policy-based routing setup as shown in a number of places (google for iproute multihoming). Eg. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7291 |
| 13:57.50 | jelly | zamba: ^^ |
| 13:58.00 | zamba | jelly: ah! thanks a bunch :) |
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| 13:59.39 | jelly | zamba: lartc.org site is a nice reference for many typical (and less typical) setups |
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| 14:06.50 | dpierce | how do i get the debian installer to use the nice color ansi text-mode instead of the fancy framebuffer? |
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| 14:07.24 | dpierce | i cant get past the initial selection screen and i believe that the fbdev may have somethig to do with this |
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| 14:11.08 | cjayho | dpierse, use "expert install" option when bootloader is loaded. |
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| 14:16.41 | dpierce | cjayho: i tried that and it fails to continue also. i suspect that the initial fb use to display the spaceship might be cause here |
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| 14:18.00 | dpierce | i previously installed debian with a card that had no fb support and it worked fine everytime. now i have a card that can utilize the fb and no such luck |
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| 14:18.36 | Hexley | Anyone here that's good with iptable? |
| 14:18.56 | cjayho | spierce, i know about it, i had same problem when was trying to inslall to the dell server using remote console. |
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| 14:20.09 | cjayho | Hexley, i can help you |
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| 14:21.16 | Hexley | cjayho, I have made a script that blocks websites from a list using iptables.. now I wonder how I can instead redirect to a custom error page when trying to browse these blocked sites? |
| 14:21.27 | Hexley | this is my block string: /sbin/iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m string --string "$address" --algo kmp -j DROP |
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| 14:22.41 | jhutchins_lt | Why not use a real proxy/filter system? |
| 14:23.09 | Hexley | it's just a home computer so I wouldn't bother |
| 14:23.22 | Hexley | and I'm trying to learn |
| 14:24.47 | cjayho | Hexley, you can redirect only to the specific IP or/and port, for example iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080 or iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.254:8080 |
| 14:25.34 | cjayho | btw proxy/filter is more usable for this |
| 14:26.20 | Hexley | cjayho, ok. so I will not be able to redirect let's say, to a locally stored html page? |
| 14:27.31 | cjayho | Hexley, only if yo have installed webserver, yo can redirect to the root of this webserver on IP 127.0.0.1:80 |
| 14:27.58 | Hexley | I don't. this is simply a desktop |
| 14:28.22 | Hexley | well. I'll maybe have a look at proxy then, or custom firefox error page |
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| 14:28.37 | cjayho | Hexley, it's not so hardly to type 'apt-get install lighttpd' :) |
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| 14:29.00 | debian6 | Hi all |
| 14:29.01 | Hexley | ok =) |
| 14:29.11 | Hexley | cjayho, thanks |
| 14:29.16 | debian6 | I'm using Debian Squeeze 6.0.2 |
| 14:29.17 | cjayho | debian6, hi |
| 14:29.34 | cjayho | debian6, congratulations :) |
| 14:29.40 | debian6 | And I'm runing iceweasel 3.5.1xx |
| 14:29.57 | debian6 | Now I want upgrade iceweasel 7 |
| 14:29.59 | debian6 | ^^ |
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| 14:30.20 | PerfDave | !mozilla |
| 14:30.20 | dpkg | Mozilla Application Suite (originally Mozilla) is an unmaintained set of Internet-oriented applications, succeeded by SeaMonkey. The <Mozilla Foundation> is focusing on Firefox and Thunderbird development. See also <seamonkey>, <firefox>, <thunderbird>. |
| 14:30.26 | PerfDave | Bah wrong factoid |
| 14:30.26 | debian6 | how i can do it |
| 14:30.51 | Porter_N500 | debian6: sudo aptitude -y upgrade iceweasel |
| 14:31.11 | debian6 | apt-cache polici iceweasel |
| 14:31.11 | PerfDave | !tell debian6 -about iceweasel backports |
| 14:31.18 | babilen | debian6: Install IW7 (release) from http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 14:31.20 | debian6 | that output 3.5.1.xxx |
| 14:31.30 | PerfDave | debian6: Stable does not include Iceweasel 7, because it's stable and doesn't change. |
| 14:31.32 | Hexley | debian6, you must first add the backports to sources.list |
| 14:31.41 | Hexley | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 14:31.41 | debian6 | I added |
| 14:31.41 | Hexley | deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-release |
| 14:31.51 | Hexley | aptitude install -y -t squeeze-backports iceweasel |
| 14:31.56 | PerfDave | Hexley: Please don't spam the channel with stuff that dpkg has already told debian6 ;) |
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| 14:33.03 | Hexley | PerfDave, sorry I didn't see.. I'm not in here alot |
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| 14:34.52 | debian6 | Hexley: Error output |
| 14:34.53 | debian6 | http://pastebin.com/QXVecEgF |
| 14:35.44 | debian6 | Hexley: after I add repo backports, and I run command update repo |
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| 14:35.54 | debian6 | Hexley: this output |
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| 14:36.16 | abrotman | you mean 'aptitude update' ? |
| 14:36.30 | debian6 | I'm run apt-get update |
| 14:36.44 | babilen | debian6: What did you add exactly to your sources.list? |
| 14:37.11 | abrotman | random stuffs from the internets! |
| 14:37.11 | debian6 | babilen: yes |
| 14:37.22 | abrotman | debian6: put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 14:37.26 | babilen | debian6: Please paste your sources.list to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 14:37.36 | debian6 | deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-5.0 |
| 14:37.37 | debian6 | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 14:37.37 | debian6 | deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-release |
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| 14:37.41 | abrotman | or that ... |
| 14:37.59 | debian6 | That is my repo backports in my sources.list |
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| 14:38.21 | abrotman | debian6: /msg dpkg squeeze sources.list .. *ADD* those repos in there |
| 14:39.03 | babilen | debian6: That can't be your complete sources.list -- Please also note that the first line is wrong. Please paste your *complete* sources.list to http://paste.debian.net |
| 14:39.08 | debian6 | That is my full repo |
| 14:39.09 | debian6 | http://pastebin.com/0wQUmhBX |
| 14:39.20 | babilen | runs |
| 14:40.57 | abrotman | wtf |
| 14:41.03 | babilen | debian6: *at least* remove line 33 ... experimental should also not be used. Webmin packages for sarge are definitely not a good idea, ... I will not support that system. |
| 14:41.09 | abrotman | debian6: why does that seem like a good idea? |
| 14:41.21 | abrotman | debian6: you've created a monsther |
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| 14:41.49 | babilen | A frankendebianpolpotstalin! |
| 14:42.11 | abrotman | debian6: is this even an eeepc box? |
| 14:42.19 | abrotman | and if so .. wtf do you need webmin for? |
| 14:42.37 | abrotman | oh screw this .. he's got MINT in there too |
| 14:42.39 | abrotman | good luck! |
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| 14:44.14 | abrotman | debian6: my suggestion would be to reinstall whatever OS you want to run .. and not screw it up like that |
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| 14:44.37 | debian6 | Hixx |
| 14:44.54 | debian6 | Mint for mint theme and Mint's icons |
| 14:44.58 | debian6 | =) |
| 14:45.06 | abrotman | it's not Debian |
| 14:45.11 | abrotman | debian6: my suggestion would be to reinstall whatever OS you want to run .. and not screw it up like that |
| 14:45.47 | debian6 | abrotman: Ok, thanks so uch |
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| 15:11.32 | wad | Every time I use sudo, I have to put in my password again. It's driving me nuts. I used visudo and added this line to my /etc/sudoers, but it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? wad ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL |
| 15:11.55 | wad | I'm pretty sure this used to work for me. |
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| 15:12.44 | wad | Oh, this is on a box running Ubuntu 11.10, but I'm pretty sure that those guys wouldn't have changed the behavior of sudo... or would they? |
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| 15:12.58 | Bushmills | ask them |
| 15:13.14 | Bushmills | debian doesn't keep track of the changes ubuntu does |
| 15:13.31 | wad | I did, but the channel is scrolling so fast, that you can't even read stuff. :-/ |
| 15:13.43 | Bushmills | but they're authoritative for ubuntu |
| 15:14.22 | wad | considers changing his password to "z" |
| 15:14.56 | berzerka | wad: take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers |
| 15:15.20 | wad | thx |
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| 15:32.46 | cusco | im not being able to install openvas-server. post install script retunrs a error: |
| 15:32.49 | cusco | configured to not write apport reports |
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| 15:33.27 | devil | cusco: please provide full error in a pastebin |
| 15:33.34 | cusco | ok |
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| 15:34.34 | abrotman | might want a set -x in there |
| 15:35.03 | cusco | devil: http://paste.debian.net/138288/ |
| 15:35.15 | cusco | abrotman: me? |
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| 15:39.14 | devil | cusco: is harden-remoteaudit installed? |
| 15:39.55 | aidehua | In fstab, does a passno of 2 mean the fsck will always run, or just whenever the fs hasn't been fsckd for X days? |
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| 15:40.29 | cusco | devil: nope, that is what i wanted to install, but I can't without installing openvas-server first |
| 15:40.45 | devil | yeah, it rdepends |
| 15:41.14 | devil | cusco: so, actualy, apt-get isntall harden-remoteaudit leads to that error? |
| 15:41.29 | cusco | it does too, tho I was only installing openvas now |
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| 15:41.47 | devil | so, both times, same error? |
| 15:41.51 | cusco | yes |
| 15:42.13 | jhutchins_lt | cusco: Which release is this? |
| 15:42.17 | devil | well, easiest way is what abrotman said |
| 15:42.31 | devil | cusco: but that a bit of a dirty hack |
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| 15:42.36 | cusco | how do I set a -x there? |
| 15:42.47 | cusco | -x in apt-get ? |
| 15:42.51 | cusco | jhutchins_lt: testing |
| 15:43.08 | cusco | I thought of -x as for bash |
| 15:43.08 | jhutchins_lt | Well, there you are, you found one. |
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| 15:43.59 | devil | cusco: its: set x. in /var/lib/dpkg/info/openvas-server.postinst |
| 15:44.10 | abrotman | cusco: on the second line of the script .. put a "set -x" |
| 15:44.11 | cusco | aw |
| 15:44.14 | devil | err, set -x |
| 15:44.25 | cusco | I just didnt know where the script was |
| 15:44.30 | cusco | I wanted to debug it.. |
| 15:44.32 | abrotman | the error tells you ? |
| 15:44.47 | abrotman | well. i ugess you have to know package sscripts live in /var/lib/dpk/info/ |
| 15:44.48 | abrotman | dpkg |
| 15:45.04 | cusco | now I do :) |
| 15:45.51 | cusco | http://paste.debian.net/138291/ |
| 15:46.15 | cusco | ok I will read trough the script and see whats hapenning I think I can handle it |
| 15:46.22 | cusco | thanks |
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| 15:46.57 | abrotman | does he need to reconfigure debconf ? |
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| 15:49.35 | cusco | dunno what var DEBIAN_SCRIPT_DEBUG is |
| 15:49.41 | NodeX | does deb squeeze still have an upper limit on how many files can be in a single folder (ext3) |
| 15:49.53 | cusco | ow I do |
| 15:50.14 | abrotman | NodeX: does ext3 still have that limit? |
| 15:50.26 | NodeX | or that lol |
| 15:50.32 | NodeX | I know some kernels bypass it |
| 15:50.40 | abrotman | uh .. no? |
| 15:50.41 | NodeX | there is a setting somewhere |
| 15:50.55 | abrotman | okay .. you find it .. let us know |
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| 15:51.07 | NodeX | Err I was asking |
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| 15:54.26 | NodeX | my mistake it's directories not files |
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| 15:56.17 | web21 | anyone got some pointers on getting gnash to play videos (stable, powerppc)? Just upgraded from 0.8.8 to backports 0.8.10 which didn't make much of a difference. Still just get a grey screen after pressing play. |
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| 15:58.47 | cusco | is there a openvas client? |
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| 15:59.50 | cusco | gah |
| 16:00.21 | dpierce | web21: might want to try in #gnash |
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| 16:01.25 | dpierce | web21: or fire off a msg to one of the mailing lists. gnash is a tricky beast |
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| 16:03.41 | zophy | with openoffice how do i enter special characters from the keyboard ? |
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| 16:04.09 | superstraw | I can't delete a file with -rwxr-xr-x even though I am the owner and part of the group... |
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| 16:04.55 | web21 | dpierce: #gnash, do you mean command line stand alone version? |
| 16:05.09 | dpierce | zophy: ctrl+shift+$CHAR_CODE_HERE |
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| 16:05.26 | Almtesh | zophy, look to the Insertion menu. |
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| 16:05.44 | Almtesh | superstraw, And the folder in witch the file is? |
| 16:06.01 | thewanderer1 | superstraw, you need write access to the *directory* that the file is in to remove entries, because files are just contents of a directory which is a file too |
| 16:06.07 | web21 | oops... you mean channel. ok will do |
| 16:06.26 | Almtesh | superstraw, if it is not sticky bit'd, you cannot delete file, even if you own them. |
| 16:06.32 | dpierce | web21: gnash in general is tricky. and doesnt support all sites. :P |
| 16:06.56 | superstraw | Almtesh: thewanderer1: yikes, yeah it was in a folder in a folder in a folder, one of them was not w... my mistake |
| 16:07.10 | dpierce | web21: what site are you trying to pull video from (or are you just trying to run some local files)? |
| 16:07.18 | superstraw | i need a slap |
| 16:07.21 | superstraw | to wake up |
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| 16:07.43 | thewanderer1 | !slap superstraw |
| 16:07.43 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across superstraw's face |
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| 16:08.02 | superstraw | ty dpkg |
| 16:08.04 | web21 | dpierce: well with this test I was using youtube, but 0.8.8 I also tried with facebook videos |
| 16:08.52 | dpierce | web21: idk about FB, bc i dont use it. but, you can pull the 'youtube-dl' script from the deb repo and use that to grab yt vids |
| 16:09.49 | web21 | dpierce: k, thanks. |
| 16:10.13 | dpierce | web21: just make sure you 'sudo youtube-dl -U' to update the thing. yt moves fast and the deb repo is rather slow. |
| 16:10.41 | dpierce | have to run '-U' twice in a row sometimes |
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| 16:33.16 | baccenfu1ter | thewanderer1: so I recreated the partition and left 12MB of free space at the beginning of the drive. now I get this error: |
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| 16:33.33 | baccenfu1ter | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/cciss/c0d1p1. Check your device.map. |
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| 16:34.04 | thewanderer1 | baccenfu1ter, well, did you check your device.map? |
| 16:34.55 | baccenfu1ter | thewanderer1: yes, it seems to still be the old device map. how can I update that? |
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| 16:35.47 | thewanderer1 | baccenfu1ter, just write a good one |
| 16:37.51 | baccenfu1ter | o0 |
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| 16:41.36 | stwange | is there a reference of the variables passed to if-up.d/* anywhee? I can't find the relevant manpage |
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| 16:45.49 | abrotman | stwange: in regard to what? |
| 16:46.18 | stwange | abrotman, I just found it, it's mentioned in man interfaces. I just wanted to know which variables it was passed, thanks anyway. |
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| 16:58.27 | snikker | hi how can i get a size of partition? fdisk -l show only total size of hard drive |
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| 16:58.43 | abrotman | are you root? |
| 16:58.50 | jelly-home | snikker: blockdev --getsize64 /dev/something |
| 16:58.52 | snikker | yes |
| 16:59.33 | jelly-home | it's probably also hidden somewhere under /sys/block/something/ |
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| 17:01.31 | snikker | jelly-home: the command above show size in bytes |
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| 17:02.39 | abrotman | fdisk will show partitions |
| 17:02.44 | snikker | but is possible to convert "start end blocks" MB or GB? |
| 17:03.13 | jelly-home | snikker: what do you mean by "start end blocks"? |
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| 17:04.19 | snikker | jelly-home: if you run "fdisk -l" you got info about start end block of partition |
| 17:05.14 | jelly-home | snikker: ok. Why do you need those? |
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| 17:06.10 | snikker | because i need to know the partition size but i want use only fdisk |
| 17:06.23 | jelly-home | snikker: wee, you already get the size (in bytes) |
| 17:06.27 | jelly-home | well* |
| 17:06.43 | snikker | where? |
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| 17:07.01 | jelly-home | with blockdev |
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| 17:07.27 | jelly-home | that tool is in util-linux package, which is installed by default even with base Debian system |
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| 17:07.53 | jelly-home | no reason not to use it |
| 17:09.07 | lamah | how can i check online version of package with apt-get/atptitude? |
| 17:09.10 | snikker | jelly-home: ok, i use it, thanks |
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| 17:13.00 | lamah | who know? |
| 17:13.24 | PerfDave | lamah: What do you mean? |
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| 17:13.38 | lamah | PerfDave: i want to check the version of package libreoffice, e.g. ? |
| 17:13.55 | PerfDave | lamah: "dpkg -l libreoffice" if it's installed? |
| 17:14.01 | PerfDave | lamah: "apt-cache show libreoffice" |
| 17:14.07 | PerfDave | lamah: "apt-cache policy libreoffice" |
| 17:14.16 | PerfDave | I'm not sure what you mean by the "online version" though |
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| 17:15.22 | lamah | PerfDave: yes yes apt-cache show, thank you! |
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| 17:20.35 | abrotman | that seemed bad |
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| 17:21.52 | abrotman | double checks |
| 17:22.32 | Devastator-work | i can't remember how to check channel modes at freenode |
| 17:22.47 | Devastator-work | on other i used to check with helpserv chanmodes.. |
| 17:22.53 | jelly-home | abrotman: get a grip, man! |
| 17:23.21 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 17:28.52 | Devastator-work | all quiet.. somebody might say "and keep that way!" |
| 17:29.03 | sigterm | *ahem* |
| 17:29.09 | sigterm | :) |
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| 17:31.51 | Rienzilla | jwaters: yes it's used on a debian machine |
| 17:32.08 | Rienzilla | support is in vanilla linux kernel |
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| 17:44.51 | ironmunk | might might be a bit broad but, I have a linux software raid6 (5 discs) two failed (yes bad luck!) and I have replaced them, the output of /proc/mdstat is here, http://pastebin.com/fK8X4tAq when I try a mdadm --assemble --scan it says only two drives are present and cannot assemble |
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| 17:45.13 | ironmunk | any one know why it would be showing 3 drives and whether I can get it to manually assemble ? |
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| 17:46.31 | GChriss | there's a new desktop that I just updated to in sid. it has a Mac OS X feel to it. does anyone know the name of this package? |
| 17:46.57 | GChriss | it nice but I'm looking for my desktop icons back and my system monitor applet in the taskbar |
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| 17:47.52 | abrotman | GChriss: gnome-shell |
| 17:47.57 | abrotman | IOW, gnome3 |
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| 17:49.43 | abrotman | GChriss: google "gnome3 show icons" or something like that |
| 17:50.29 | fesafder | anyone has a lsb header to start scrip all the times after network is up |
| 17:50.38 | GChriss | abrotman: much appreciated. googling now |
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| 17:51.57 | fesafder | how do i check my /etc/cmd will be ran next reboot ? |
| 17:52.22 | PerfDave | fesafder: Why would /etc/cmd be run at all, never mind at reboot? |
| 17:52.27 | PerfDave | fesafder: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 17:53.37 | fesafder | i want a script to run when the machine boots |
| 17:53.54 | PerfDave | What sort of script? What does it do? |
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| 17:54.17 | fesafder | register to a dyndns my ip |
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| 17:54.39 | arghx | fesafder: look in /etc/init.d/ there are lots: apache, samba, nfs, etc. they all have headers like you need. IIRC all at S20 I think |
| 17:54.58 | arghx | fesafder: there are lots of programs in debian already which do that. no need to install one manually |
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| 17:55.25 | PerfDave | fesafder: Do you want it to run when the system boots or when your network becomes active? Look in /etc/network/if-up.d/ etc. or use NetworkManager event scripts. |
| 17:55.34 | peterrooney | fesafder: check rc.local, for further suggestions. |
| 17:55.39 | fesafder | give me one that support registering AAAA records |
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| 17:55.53 | PerfDave | ANother option is an @reboot cron job |
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| 17:57.26 | peterrooney | is curious about what fesafder is really trying to do |
| 17:58.05 | PerfDave | Trying to register your IPv6 address as an AAAA record with a dynamic DNS service is a reasonable thing to want to do, but I don't think you want to do it from an init script. |
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| 17:58.41 | fesafder | i have my domain and my machines have ipv6 addresses from my isp , i want each machine to update the ipv6 record on my dns |
| 17:59.08 | arghx | fesafder: /etc/network/post-up.d |
| 17:59.24 | abrotman | your dyndns service package should do that already for you ? |
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| 18:00.07 | fesafder | i found ways to link my dhcp with dns but here the ipv6 "dhcp is not under my control so i want the machine to do it |
| 18:01.31 | Dagger3 | fesafder: do your addresses actually change? I notice that you're using SLAAC, so the second half of it should be fixed (or rather, as fixed as your MAC address is) |
| 18:01.36 | Dagger3 | does the first part actually change? |
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| 18:03.43 | fesafder | yes but i have a lot of machines i can deploy this solution easily getting all the mac/machine name would be a real pain |
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| 18:06.25 | fesafder | a script runing on the client would "know" the machine name and the ip, at the same time . so i don't have to keep track of that mapping |
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| 18:11.16 | Dagger3 | mm, fair enough. (I just do it manually, so I don't have any suggestions for software. you could try #ipv6 if you can't find one though) |
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| 18:12.39 | arghx | fesafder: have you read about post-up.d/ ? |
| 18:13.34 | fesafder | reading |
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| 18:13.48 | tarto | Hello ! can someone help me installing my wifi car (intel advanced 6230). lspci find this device : 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Device 0091 (rev 34) |
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| 18:14.05 | tarto | ifconfig up wlan0 : don't work |
| 18:14.30 | arghx | tarto: which kernel do you use? |
| 18:14.31 | Dagger3 | it's a bit messy in post-up.d, because the interface comes up before the address is assigned |
| 18:14.36 | Dagger3 | nothing you can't fix with a sleep, I guess |
| 18:15.07 | coreGrl | hi, I've an usb stick, if put on debian I can't use it, fdisk shows me 4 partitions, http://pastebin.com/kDJmzske , any hint? |
| 18:15.21 | tarto | arghx: 2.6.32-5 |
| 18:16.05 | fesafder | coreGrl: try testdisk on it |
| 18:16.24 | arghx | tarto: install a backports kernel, non-free firmware from wheezy for your wlan and new xorg from backports so your videocard in your cpu is supported |
| 18:16.50 | tarto | arghx: can u link me a tutorial ? |
| 18:16.56 | arghx | tarto: afaik you have a sandy bridge CPU with sandy bridge wlan |
| 18:17.02 | arghx | !tell backports about tarto |
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| 18:17.20 | arghx | !tell tarto about backports |
| 18:17.23 | boudiccas | !u |
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| 18:17.24 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:17.29 | jhutchins_lt | Anybody have a clue why squeeze's kde would be giving me double notifications on power events? |
| 18:17.37 | tarto | arghx: ty :) |
| 18:17.54 | menhi | How do I configure the GNOME window manager (metacity, right?) to not draw decorations for and never give focus to a certain window? |
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| 18:18.41 | jelly-home | menhi: metacity doesn't do that, but you may use the separate devilspie tool |
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| 18:19.00 | menhi | Metacity doesn't manage windows? |
| 18:19.35 | jelly-home | it doesn't micromanage, if you wish |
| 18:19.50 | boudiccas | menhi; are you deaf? |
| 18:19.56 | menhi | devilspie looks like it might work, thanks. |
| 18:20.22 | Bushmills | tarto, ! 2 a 2torial? |
| 18:20.50 | abrotman | grabs Bushmills in the butt |
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| 18:21.06 | Zxcvb | is this normal with a pcie sata controller "configured for UDMA/100"? |
| 18:21.12 | arghx | abrotman: don't we have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy here? |
| 18:21.41 | ompaul | arghx: you looked, you saw, it was neither asked, nor told |
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| 18:22.04 | ompaul | slips into a more comfortable offtopic |
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| 18:23.03 | fesafder | <arghx: thx if-up.d/ is doing the job |
| 18:23.06 | nsadmin | how would I put a netinst on a sata drive's partition? just write the image? |
| 18:23.18 | Bushmills | abrotman: yes, 2b | ! 2b |
| 18:23.55 | ompaul | nsadmin: depends on the required functionality |
| 18:24.07 | nsadmin | well I want to boot to install from it |
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| 18:25.32 | somiaj | nsadmin: are you running linux already? Why not just use debootstrap to install directally on a partition? |
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| 18:25.40 | nsadmin | yes I am |
| 18:25.49 | nsadmin | hmm, yes I suppose I could do that |
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| 18:26.33 | nsadmin | what are the steps after debootstrap? (I know I would have to add it to a grub) |
| 18:26.45 | Bushmills | kernel you need as well |
| 18:26.58 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 18:27.10 | ompaul | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 18:27.16 | ompaul | nsadmin: ^^ |
| 18:27.40 | nitzs | While logging-in using wget to a remote server, I am unable to redirect the response to stdout (Using the -O- option). Any ideas? |
| 18:29.03 | somiaj | nsadmin: yea chroot into the newly created partition, kernel/fstab/grub are major things, but you can install other packages at that time too. |
| 18:29.13 | jelly-home | nitzs: sorry. Can you be more explicit, show the actual, complete command line, its output, and what it's failing to do? |
| 18:29.25 | nsadmin | good enuf... hmm, not sure I should do that first |
| 18:29.30 | jelly-home | nitzs: use a pastebin site |
| 18:29.41 | arghx | nitzs: it is analogous to shell redirection: wget -O file http://foo is intended to work like |
| 18:29.42 | abrotman | arghx: about what? |
| 18:29.44 | arghx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:30.23 | arghx | abrotman: the same what the US army is so afraid of to have that policy, what else. which is why I mentioned it at all |
| 18:30.32 | nitzs | arghx: yes. but in this particular case it isn't working out that way. |
| 18:30.42 | abrotman | arghx: what are you assuming about Bushmills ? |
| 18:30.45 | nitzs | i get nothing on stdout. |
| 18:30.46 | abrotman | and me for that matter |
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| 18:31.10 | nitzs | but if i redirect to a file the file contains the response. |
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| 18:32.10 | arghx | abrotman: I don't tell! |
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| 18:32.28 | abrotman | good plan |
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| 18:33.30 | ompaul | nitzs: cat whatever --args-as-needed |tee > stdin-to-file try that |
| 18:34.10 | nitzs | ompaul: check out http://pastebin.com/FnveeFiZ |
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| 18:35.46 | ompaul | nitzs: see my comment |
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| 18:37.24 | nitzs | ompaul: okay |
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| 18:43.12 | acu | hey guys how can I see what daemons I run ? - I need to make sure that libvirtd is running - but what I see is only libvirt-bin |
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| 18:45.47 | LV-426 | acu, ps aux | grep libvirtd |
| 18:46.08 | LV-426 | acu, manage with /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin |
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| 18:48.28 | acu | LV-426, I got root 1977 0.6 0.0 207648 6304 ? Sl 13:06 0:16 /usr/sbin/libvirtd -d and root 5072 0.0 0.0 7548 840 pts/4 S+ 13:47 0:00 grep libvirtd |
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| 18:50.24 | LV-426 | acu, same here. use virsh list --all to see vm state |
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| 18:52.43 | LV-426 | better: /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin status |
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| 19:12.11 | seb82 | hey all |
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| 19:15.39 | seb82 | how can I write the output of ./configure to a file? Under dos I it was like command > sumtxtfile |
| 19:16.24 | Bushmills | actually, nothing has changed with dos in that respect. it is still like that today |
| 19:16.25 | cardamon | seb82: Same. |
| 19:16.37 | seb82 | kk thx cardamon |
| 19:16.46 | cardamon | > redirects stdout to a file. |
| 19:16.54 | seb82 | okay good to know |
| 19:16.59 | cardamon | and >> appends. |
| 19:17.14 | cardamon | You can also got the other way, but that's sometimes less intuitivee. |
| 19:17.21 | cardamon | And generally not as useful. |
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| 19:17.35 | seb82 | kk thx |
| 19:17.39 | cardamon | seb82: I recommend learning bash or whatever shell you use. |
| 19:17.56 | seb82 | I'm not sure it bash... but I prefere bash anyway |
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| 19:18.08 | seb82 | got hint, I'll like into that later this week cardamon |
| 19:18.09 | cardamon | seb82: echo $SHELL |
| 19:18.15 | cardamon | That will tell you. |
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| 19:18.36 | seb82 | it's bash... |
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| 19:20.26 | rtmex | Hello all, I have Squeze kernel 2.6.32-5-686, and sudenly. my usb ports are not recognized, I get hub 1-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 5 disabled |
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| 19:21.12 | rtmex | I google it and I can't find the solution, of course the hardware is Ok |
| 19:21.43 | seb82 | rtmex... what have you got connected to the usbports? |
| 19:21.52 | hydromet | hi, when preparing a customized (patched) linux kernel and therefore deb packages, when it comes time to literally "compiling" the kernel is this what happens when the linux-image-*.deb package is built (but not necessarily when the linux-headers*.deb package is built)? |
| 19:22.56 | hydromet | someone asked me to provide a .config file used for compiling my kernel but I see two config files (one for the linux-headers resources and one for the build resources) |
| 19:23.11 | rtmex | seb82 a USB memory stick, the same usb memory stick works fine on windows, and it was working ok on my Debian machine, just now i got tha error every time I start that PC |
| 19:23.15 | seb82 | hydromet, give 'm both |
| 19:23.45 | seb82 | rtmex... have you tried to format the memory stick (after backing it up ofcourse)? |
| 19:23.48 | hydromet | seb82: ok -- is this because the linux-headers and the build resources are both used in "compiling the kernel"? |
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| 19:24.50 | rtmex | seb82: No, but As a Said, I get the message even if I don't connect anithin to the usb ports |
| 19:25.34 | rtmex | I power down the PC, I power it on again and I get hte message when Debian is loading |
| 19:25.52 | seb82 | rtmex when did it occur for the first time? |
| 19:26.01 | rtmex | a few minutes ago :( |
| 19:26.20 | seb82 | hydromet: most likely; the more information you give us, the better we can help you |
| 19:26.42 | seb82 | rtmex: did you install something new, upgrade something or anything? |
| 19:28.14 | rtmex | I inserted the usb memory stock and it was not auto mounted, so I disconnect the USB memory and shutdown the PC, then I start getting the message when Debian loads |
| 19:28.40 | seb82 | are you using a hub of some sort? |
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| 19:29.04 | rtmex | No, is the Motherboard USB ports directly |
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| 19:30.05 | rtmex | I saw this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620848 |
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| 19:31.51 | seb82 | rtmex: I'm cluess then on this matter... |
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| 19:32.43 | rtmex | seb82: Ok, I still appreciate your effort, thanks :) |
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| 19:32.56 | seb82 | np man |
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| 19:33.28 | seb82 | rtmex: there is ofcourse a thing you could try: reinstall the entire system... |
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| 19:34.53 | rtmex | seb82: I know, but that's too much time consuming :8 |
| 19:35.19 | rtmex | I'm thinking of upgrading just the kernel |
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| 19:37.30 | seb82 | rtmex: I know but sometimes you have no other option... I can install my system within 1,5 hours... on a single core 2.80Mhz with 2Gb ram... |
| 19:37.39 | seb82 | I then use a netinstall... |
| 19:37.53 | seb82 | to a basesystem and install my likings manually |
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| 19:45.12 | seb82 | scuse me it's a 2.80Ghz...lol 2.80Mhz would be low... very low... |
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| 19:46.19 | orudie | where is grub config located in debian 6 ? |
| 19:47.48 | Devastator-work | try /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 19:48.07 | Devastator-work | actually /etc/grub.d/ i guess |
| 19:48.31 | valdyn | !wayttd orudie |
| 19:48.31 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, orudie? |
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| 19:53.35 | Danic | My server for domain mydomain.com treats outgoing emails to mydomain.com as local although the mx points to google. Can someone help me with my Problem? |
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| 19:53.55 | orudie | valdyn, studying for linux+ |
| 19:53.56 | Danic | I am using exim4 |
| 19:54.07 | Iridos | dpkg, grub2 config |
| 19:54.07 | dpkg | If all you want is to dual-boot Debian and Windows, just install the os-prober package and run update-grub. Otherwise, check /etc/default/grub, /etc/grub.d/* and http://grub.enbug.org/ (GRUB wiki). http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Configuration |
| 19:55.42 | sanduz2 | is there a way to make debian administration easier? basically i would like to take snapshots of the current system and restore them at any time, at the least. i tried using xen, but its a little too much for my needs and the management software is buggy and unstable. any ideas? |
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| 19:56.24 | Bushmills | sanduz2: restoring in case of hardware failure, or file corruption? |
| 19:56.44 | karlpinc | sanduz2: Many use rsnapshot. That's generally for backup. If you just want to go "back" you can use lvm snapshots. |
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| 19:56.55 | sanduz2 | Bushmills, either one but also just if i feel like taking a step back at any time |
| 19:57.05 | peterrooney | Danic: sendmail does smoething on startup where it probes all known IP addresses, does a reverse DNS lookup on those, and accepts all mail for those domains regardless of what the MX record says. this 'feature' can be shut off |
| 19:57.08 | sanduz2 | karlpinc, lvm? hm ill look into it |
| 19:57.20 | karlpinc | sanduz2: Won't protect you against media failure. |
| 19:57.22 | Bushmills | for any file, you might want to log at log structured file systems. such as, for example, nilfs2 |
| 19:57.30 | Bushmills | to look, even |
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| 19:57.50 | sanduz2 | thanks guys, ill look into both of those suggestions |
| 19:57.57 | Iridos | doesn't sound like "easier" to me |
| 19:57.59 | Iridos | though |
| 19:58.09 | valdyn | sanduz2: btrfs does this easily, its just not yet very mature, ( but it works for me ) |
| 19:58.24 | sanduz2 | valdyn, thank you |
| 19:58.26 | karlpinc | sanduz2: There's also stuff that does change tracking, which may not be what your looking for. Everything from cvs to puppet. |
| 19:58.29 | peterrooney | Danic: sorry, I missed the part where you said exim4 - I don't know if it suffers from the same misfeature. |
| 19:58.33 | Devastator-work | basically he wants a linux version of system restore hehe |
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| 19:58.56 | valdyn | Devastator-work: what is "system restore" ? |
| 19:59.02 | sanduz2 | karlpinc, hmm not sure what you mean by tracking |
| 19:59.20 | karlpinc | sanduz2: There's no substitute for backup. I prefer an rsync based off-system daily backup. |
| 19:59.21 | seb82 | valdyn; something windows using with restore points... |
| 19:59.42 | valdyn | ok, that would be what btrfs can do, except that btrfs does it better |
| 19:59.42 | Devastator-work | yes, that valdyn |
| 19:59.47 | karlpinc | sanduz2: You can track changes to config files, individually, and restore them. etc. |
| 19:59.50 | seb82 | lol |
| 19:59.55 | seb82 | wot up valdyn? |
| 20:00.32 | valdyn | seb82: hmm? |
| 20:00.34 | sanduz2 | karlpinc, hm i see. sounds rather tedious than just restoring a snapshot though. i kinda want it to be quick and simple just for ease of administration |
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| 20:00.53 | seb82 | valdyn: hows ya? |
| 20:01.01 | valdyn | seb82: bored |
| 20:01.12 | sanduz2 | a snapshot of the whole system that is |
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| 20:01.20 | seb82 | valdyn: anything we can change about that? |
| 20:01.28 | karlpinc | sanduz2: Yes. But it's even more tedious to have to re-install and try to remember what you did. Rsync can restore pretty quickly, even a snapshot of a whole system. Limited by network speed. |
| 20:01.33 | jelly-home | sanduz2: how often do you make serious mistakes requiring restores to a previous version of the system? |
| 20:01.44 | valdyn | seb82: yea, give me an ubuntu user that i can troll ;) |
| 20:01.48 | sanduz2 | karlpinc, i see. |
| 20:01.58 | seb82 | valdyn: alright |
| 20:02.03 | sanduz2 | jelly, not too often. but i really hate having to redo everything over when i do :P |
| 20:02.05 | Danic | peterrooney neither me. i find the configuration so complicated and don't have the time to read it for 10 hours or more, just to accomplish a little thing that someone can do in a jiffy. its so frustrating. |
| 20:02.15 | seb82 | who uses ubuntu on here? |
| 20:02.35 | jelly-home | sanduz2: qith linux, any kind of daily backup of the complete system would do, including file-based, rsync backup tools like rsnapshot or dirvish. |
| 20:03.05 | sanduz2 | jelly-home, thank you ill look into those as well |
| 20:03.08 | valdyn | sanduz2: what's the purpose of that system youre trying to do snapshots on? |
| 20:03.14 | sanduz2 | valdyn, server |
| 20:03.25 | abrotman | seb82: you would ask #ubuntu |
| 20:03.29 | valdyn | sanduz2: yea, but.. how critical |
| 20:03.43 | sanduz2 | valdyn, not life or death... yet. but fairly critical |
| 20:03.50 | seb82 | abrotman: i'm just looking for an ubuntu-user who can be trolled... |
| 20:03.53 | valdyn | sanduz2: then forget about btrfs please |
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| 20:04.03 | abrotman | seb82: wrong channel, go play somewhere else |
| 20:04.12 | jelly-home | sanduz2: how much downtime can you afford? 24 hours? |
| 20:04.13 | seb82 | abrotman: it's not for me... |
| 20:04.21 | abrotman | seb82: seriously .. get back on topic |
| 20:04.26 | valdyn | abrotman: its my fault ;/ |
| 20:04.29 | sanduz2 | valdyn, how come? unreliable? |
| 20:04.38 | sanduz2 | jelly-home, much less i would hope |
| 20:04.44 | abrotman | valdyn: it's not really .. you didn't keep going |
| 20:04.52 | jelly-home | sanduz2: how much are you prepared to pay for it? |
| 20:04.56 | seb82 | lol @ abrotman... |
| 20:05.08 | valdyn | sanduz2: the essence is that its to unreliable, yes |
| 20:05.14 | abrotman | valdyn: i also know you're kidding .. you know where to find them if you want htem |
| 20:05.24 | karlpinc | sanduz2: There's rsnapshot, dirvish, or roll your own. Here's my rsync based backup system: http://wikisend.com/download/375926/rsync_backup-0.23.tar.gz |
| 20:05.26 | seb82 | abrotman: I'll be on the sideline reading along kk? |
| 20:05.34 | sanduz2 | jelly-home, $0. id rather write a script that restores everything automated than to pay |
| 20:05.49 | sanduz2 | karlpinc, thank you |
| 20:05.52 | Bushmills | plenty of ubuntu users... seen at least 20 at a quick glance |
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| 20:06.36 | jelly-home | sanduz2: will your script be able to match your restore window? |
| 20:07.20 | sanduz2 | jelly-home, i think it can. but it is more tedious than i would like |
| 20:07.38 | sanduz2 | jelly-home, i really like the vm style 'load snapshot' thing |
| 20:07.44 | valdyn | maybe btrfs isnt such a bad choice then |
| 20:07.55 | valdyn | it would be fast anyway |
| 20:07.56 | jelly-home | sanduz2: so, make snapshots then. |
| 20:08.02 | karlpinc | sanduz2: I wanted something that would push and pull and didn't care for dirvish. Anyway, you may still want to use lvm snapshots. |
| 20:08.03 | sanduz2 | ill definitely look at all your suggestions |
| 20:08.13 | jelly-home | sanduz2: LVM is faily proven and reliable. |
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| 20:08.29 | jelly-home | fairly* |
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| 20:08.43 | sanduz2 | thank you all, ill look over all of them with your suggestions in mind :) |
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| 20:09.32 | karlpinc | sanduz2: The nice thing about hardlinked rsync backups is you get good "compression" as you get lots of backups. |
| 20:10.22 | sanduz2 | karlpinc, i see. im more interested in making manual snap shots at certain points just to be able to take a step back or have a template |
| 20:10.59 | karlpinc | sanduz2: Then lvm is probably for you. (Until you have hardware failure and wish you'd had a backup.) |
| 20:11.36 | sanduz2 | karlpinc, thank you. yes if a database comes into the picture i will have to re-evaluate thigns |
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| 20:24.18 | pizza_biz | g'day. i've got an oldish P4 machine here i'm planning to use to install debian on to use as a relatively low-volume web/e-mail server. i'm wondering if anyone has some recommendations for a no-nonsense non-RAID PCI SATA card supported in the base install. how are the SIIG cards for that? |
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| 20:25.35 | abrotman | pizza_biz: that'd be fine .. generally anything that is simple would be supported .. especially if it's over a year old |
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| 20:28.11 | pizza_biz | great, i'll go with that then. i was going to get some IDE drives and use a spare 3ware 7000 card i have (works great in my other web server), but the drives seem to be in short supply of late. i figure cheap SATA and md will work just fine for this. |
| 20:28.28 | nsadmin | so I have a laptop which apparantly has mics where its speakers are, and when I start jack and then qtractor, it starts feedbacking |
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| 20:28.47 | nsadmin | I'm trying to locate how to mute the mics |
| 20:29.08 | Iridos | alsamixer? |
| 20:30.19 | abrotman | easy! |
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| 20:31.27 | nsadmin | hmm. alsamixer has a line in/mic in which was set to mic in... but no mic level |
| 20:31.35 | abrotman | hit the m ? |
| 20:31.45 | nsadmin | I set it to line in |
| 20:31.56 | nsadmin | oh, I'll see if that does something |
| 20:32.42 | nsadmin | m doesn't do anything, that column is just a switch |
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| 20:35.41 | Iridos | m just IS a switch... it toggles mute |
| 20:36.12 | Iridos | and I guess I should have said alsamixer -v capture |
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| 20:39.28 | Danic | Can someone explain me, where to find "DCconfig_internet" ?? In my EXIM config I find the line ".ifdef DCconfig_internet" and inside there is a router "dnslookup" which is used by outgoing mail. But I cannot find the place where DCconfig_internet is defined... |
| 20:40.04 | nsadmin | not #ifdef? |
| 20:40.22 | Danic | sorry? |
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| 20:40.45 | nsadmin | meetoo... |
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| 20:40.55 | nsadmin | you say .ifdef, is that correct? |
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| 20:41.01 | nsadmin | not #ifdef? |
| 20:41.19 | Danic | yes, ".ifdef". why? :D |
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| 20:41.32 | nsadmin | ok, don't know anything about that. |
| 20:41.35 | Danic | lol |
| 20:42.18 | nsadmin | (and more importantly, not presently willing to read up and learn about it) |
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| 20:43.05 | Danic | nsadmin, what's the matter, why so rude? |
| 20:43.29 | nsadmin | rude? you misinterpret. I don't have the time |
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| 20:43.44 | Danic | I did not ask you to learn exim4 and explain it to me. |
| 20:43.50 | ompaul | irc where social conventions get rewritten in ways you'd never guess |
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| 20:46.48 | nsadmin | if it were #ifdef, that would have had a chance of being the c preprocessor which I do know already, and may have been able to help with; could be that I would have to read up on all of that in order to find your problem. |
| 20:47.13 | nsadmin | and, rude or not, I'm not even willing to start with that because I do not have the time. |
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| 20:48.30 | ompaul | Danic: you can't see us, do we smile, do we frown, do we laugh, are we useful or rubbish, who knows. IRC sucks at telling others intent, it tends toward trite and fast. |
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| 20:49.23 | nsadmin | If I had a recent desire to look into my own exim config, that would have also made it so that me helping you would have also helped me... but that's not present either |
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| 20:50.06 | nsadmin | as it stands I don't even know which MTA I'm running and not presently interested in finding out |
| 20:50.30 | Danic | ompaul, yes, but telling someone to not be willing to help is rude. either you cannot help (like nsadmin) or stay quiet. also in real life. |
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| 20:51.16 | nsadmin | Danic, that would be your interpretation |
| 20:51.51 | Danic | its also your interpretation that you think its ok to tell someone your not willing to help. |
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| 20:52.04 | nsadmin | which you are welcome to... but in my opinion that's victim/scarcity mentality |
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| 20:53.03 | nsadmin | Danic, absolutely, no question, I have zero problem with it, I'll tell anyone I'm unwilling if as and when I want to |
| 20:53.09 | Bushmills | wonders whether he should point out alternative channels for that discussion, or simply /ignore both |
| 20:53.40 | ompaul | Bushmills: hard call |
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| 20:54.09 | nsadmin | right, the bottom line is you may find better help in #exim |
| 20:54.15 | Danic | nsadmin, whatever, I don't care anyway |
| 20:54.23 | Bushmills | yes. i guess i give it a minute or two and see how it goes on |
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| 20:55.35 | Devastator-work | my god, a simple misinterpreted answer put him on fire |
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| 20:55.57 | nsadmin | it's all over, move along, nothing to see here |
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| 20:58.24 | brainsoft | hi i have weird sound problem. suddenly sound works through browsers like youtube and so on and not on players like mpg123 smplayer or xine ( i dont mean simultaneosly) then i do nothing and suddenly after for example 20 minutes happens the opossite. i cant hear youtube and sound works on xine smplayer or mpg123 |
| 20:58.48 | seb82 | brainsoft... system? |
| 20:58.53 | ompaul | brainsoft: your browser blocks it on the players and the opposite |
| 20:59.59 | brainsoft | and how do i solve it |
| 21:00.23 | ompaul | simplest version is make sure browser is closed before you use player and the converse |
| 21:00.50 | brainsoft | but it started to happen days ago it was working previously |
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| 21:00.59 | brainsoft | i dist-upgraded |
| 21:01.00 | ompaul | brainsoft: uname -a |
| 21:01.10 | ompaul | brainsoft: you are running testing? |
| 21:01.16 | brainsoft | Linux pkbrlabs 3.0.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Oct 7 20:48:45 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 21:01.25 | brainsoft | debian sid |
| 21:02.07 | Devastator-work | brainsoft have you checked bugs.debian.org? |
| 21:02.57 | somiaj | brainsoft: do you use a custom .asoundrc or a sound server (like pulseaudio)? dmix should work by default in alsa to allow software mixing on most sound cards |
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| 21:04.05 | inthl | when sudo fails I'm getting a message like Sorry, user maintainer is not allowed to execute 'command' as root on Servername. - but I am pretty much sure that the configuration is at it should be. is there any way to figure out what exactly went wrong? |
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| 21:05.11 | ompaul | inthl: check this against yhour config http://wiki.debian.org/sudo |
| 21:05.33 | nsadmin | argh. I have a jack/alsa/alsa midi/qtractor mess and I need to know what's the best place for helping me unwind it |
| 21:06.44 | inthl | I am even being asked for a passwort althow NOPASSWD is set? |
| 21:06.56 | inthl | this configuration works on another machine, but the hostname is the same |
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| 21:08.47 | inthl | I just even used ALL=(ALL) ALL and I'm still being asked for a password :/ even after strg+D and du username again |
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| 21:08.50 | inthl | su |
| 21:09.12 | jelly-home | inthl: which debian release and version of sudo package? Can you pastebin your grep -v ^# /etc/sudoers? |
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| 21:09.53 | jelly-home | inthl: is there anything in /etc/sudoers.d/ apart from a README file? |
| 21:09.58 | inthl | wheezy, latest packages only. /etc/sudoers now has root ALL=(ALL) ALL and root username=(ALL) ALL |
| 21:10.11 | inthl | nothing but README |
| 21:10.38 | filePeter | Will dd write to a mounted drive or would it ask? |
| 21:10.42 | dondelelcaro | inthl: what does sudo -l; output? |
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| 21:11.28 | inthl | User root may run the following commands on this host: |
| 21:11.28 | inthl | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.34 | inthl | that other user isn't even listed |
| 21:11.40 | ompaul | !paste |
| 21:11.41 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 21:11.51 | ompaul | inthl: put the whole file in there |
| 21:11.52 | Schiz0 | I'm trying to setup two scripts to be run via my users' crontab. I want them both run every other minute */2, but is there a way to make them run on different minutes? Like script1 run at xx:00 and script2 at xx:01, then script1 at xx:03, script2 at xx:04.....and so on. Does */2-1 work to put in for one of the scripts? |
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| 21:13.20 | spal | I have stopped exim4: /etc/init.d/exim4 stop. Yet, when I try to send an email using PHP mail() function, I see logs in /var/log/exim4/mainlog that it is trying to send email. Who writes the log when exim4 isn't running? |
| 21:13.26 | ompaul | Schiz0: start the second one with the line sleep 60 |
| 21:13.35 | inthl | could it be that /etc/sudoers requires a new-line at the end ... |
| 21:13.52 | inthl | hm give me a minute |
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| 21:14.06 | Schiz0 | ompaul: Ohh, that would work. I'll do that for now. But there's no way to do that in cron? |
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| 21:14.37 | nsadmin | spal, why are you trying to send mail without a mail server running? |
| 21:14.44 | ompaul | Schiz0: 1,3,5,.... 2,4,6, are all I can think of |
| 21:14.54 | Schiz0 | yeah. ok, thank you |
| 21:15.01 | spal | nsadmin, I was doing error checking of my app. making sure that it notifies error if the mail server is down. |
| 21:15.06 | inthl | hm seems to work now, apparently I did not change nothing. weird :/ |
| 21:15.13 | inthl | anything |
| 21:15.14 | spal | nsadmin, however I see that something is successfully sending emails even though I have stopped exim4. |
| 21:15.15 | nsadmin | oic, cool |
| 21:15.29 | nsadmin | hmm |
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| 21:16.27 | nsadmin | well this is unlikely but it's the first thing in the chain... what if a module php has access to is acting like an mta |
| 21:16.28 | Schiz0 | spal: afaik, exim only manages local mail transit. as in, reciving, and sending of mail to local system accounts. when you call mail() in php, it calls a binary on the system that connects to the remote mail server and sends it. it doesn't use the local mta at all. |
| 21:16.57 | nsadmin | is this to the local machine or does it go out (function of an MTA is to transfer mail appropriate for another machine) |
| 21:17.00 | spal | Schiz0, why do I get logs in /var/log/exim4/mainlog then? |
| 21:17.24 | nsadmin | hmm. how are you stopping the mta? |
| 21:17.30 | spal | nsadmin, I am able to send mails using: echo "Hey there" | mutt -s "foo subject" user@out-domain.com |
| 21:17.34 | Schiz0 | spal: the binary still writes to the maillog saying it sent it. it's not exim4's MTA doing it, it's exim4's outgoing mailer binary |
| 21:17.48 | spal | nsadmin, /etc/init.d/exim4 stop - I also confirmed that exim4 isn't running using ps listing. |
| 21:18.02 | spal | Schiz0, I see. |
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| 21:18.09 | Schiz0 | try stopping all mta's on the system and sending an outgoing mail to an external address using /usr/bin/mail |
| 21:18.11 | Schiz0 | and see if it works |
| 21:18.20 | Schiz0 | and has the same effect on the maillog |
| 21:18.27 | spal | Schiz0, I have only one MTA. exim4. |
| 21:18.40 | nsadmin | aha, so either a central config is functioning and an mta is running, or mutt is directly contacting a smarthost |
| 21:18.41 | spal | Schiz0, I stopped it and tried sending mail using /usr/bin/mail as well. same effect. I get logs in maillog. |
| 21:19.16 | nsadmin | this mail that you send, what machine is its destination? |
| 21:19.21 | Schiz0 | yeah, it's not exim4 writing the log, it's just the outgoing mailer binary which just connects to the remote server to send the mail, it doesn't transfer anything locally (which is part of what exim4 does) |
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| 21:20.44 | spal | nsadmin, my server on a VPS is the destination. |
| 21:21.07 | spal | Schiz0, I did confirm that. whatever it is, isn't connecting to localhost:25 to send that email. |
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| 21:22.14 | Schiz0 | when you send mail via exm4, it puts it into exim's queue and exim4 takes care of it as it so wishes. php's mail(), and subsiquently /usr/bin/mail connect to the remote mail server itself and handle everything by itself, bypassing exim4 and it's queue |
| 21:22.29 | spal | okay |
| 21:22.48 | Schiz0 | now, just be glad you're not trying to configure sendmail instead ;-) |
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| 21:23.21 | spal | why does it write the logs to /var/log/exim4 then? I mean how is /usr/bin/mail even aware that exim4 exists and it must write into its log files? |
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| 21:24.38 | nsadmin | that's a good poitn |
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| 21:25.27 | Schiz0 | spal: /etc/syslog.conf |
| 21:25.33 | nsadmin | but for example if you look at qmail, it has a coupla different daemons, one used for sending |
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| 21:26.01 | Schiz0 | (i believe that's why. you can setup any mail.* log entry from any program to go into the same global maillog |
| 21:26.05 | Schiz0 | i may be wrong though |
| 21:26.10 | spal | the entry in /etc/syslog.conf is: mail.* -/var/log/mail.log |
| 21:26.16 | Schiz0 | hrm |
| 21:26.19 | Schiz0 | not exim4.log |
| 21:26.26 | Schiz0 | i dunno then, you got me, haha |
| 21:26.27 | Schiz0 | shrugs |
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| 21:26.43 | nsadmin | spal "my server on a vps is the destination" ok, what machine originated the mail? |
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| 21:27.03 | spal | nsadmin, my laptop at my home. It's in a private network, behind a router with NAT. |
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| 21:27.17 | spal | also, my /var/log/mail.log is a zero length file. |
| 21:27.31 | nsadmin | ok, so, your laptop is the thing you're stopping exim on? |
| 21:27.37 | spal | nsadmin, yes |
| 21:28.24 | nsadmin | try on the laptop: telnet localhost 25 |
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| 21:28.45 | nsadmin | does it connect or claim the port is closed? |
| 21:28.48 | spal | nsadmin, connection refused. |
| 21:29.14 | nsadmin | ok, so that confirms no local msil server is running |
| 21:29.25 | spal | yes |
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| 21:30.11 | acu | I want to create a bootable cd with specific settings - like static IP etc - which can do a netinstall automatically - with no human intervention - FAI is an option - wonder if there is something simpler - baby brain kind of method ? |
| 21:30.16 | nsadmin | and so mutt and mailx are somehow able to send mail |
| 21:30.29 | nsadmin | but not by the laptop's mta |
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| 21:32.17 | acu | I want to make a hands-free netinstaller with few specifics - static IP etc - what is best way to do it ? |
| 21:33.41 | dondelelcaro | acu: preseeding, probably... though you often don't want to have a static IP |
| 21:35.31 | acu | dondelelcaro: I want to send someone a bootable cd which would install minimum stuff and openssh so I can get in and continue from there - |
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| 21:38.14 | nsadmin | acu, for the IP, use dhcp and either have the dhcp server look at the mac address for which IP, or host name which you somehow set during install |
| 21:38.29 | peterrooney | acu: there's a really good chance that assigning it a static IP will be taken as a malicious action by whoever administrates their network. |
| 21:38.55 | filePeter | Did debian woody have cron installed per default? |
| 21:39.04 | nsadmin | yes |
| 21:39.21 | acu | no - they have a bridge to outside world - the computer will be connected to that - just for me - and I have a public static IP |
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| 21:39.58 | filePeter | nsadmin: Would editing /etc/crontab run my script as rootâ½ |
| 21:40.02 | cardamon | Hey, question about nice. Everything I've looked up on line tells me there are two nice commands available, one in /usr/bin, and one from my bash shell. Which is better to use, or is there a condition where one should be used over the other? |
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| 21:40.26 | nsadmin | acu, then if they are thinking, they will look at your mac addr anyway |
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| 21:41.23 | cardamon | As I unstand it 19 is the max niceness, -20 is the min (highest suggested priority), only root can/should be able to set things below 0, and default is 10? |
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| 21:41.58 | peterrooney | cardamon: news to me about nice. what version of bash? |
| 21:42.17 | abrotman | are the functionally equivalent ? |
| 21:42.19 | dondelelcaro | acu: well, you still probably want to use dhcp unless you know that won't work |
| 21:42.36 | damian | I want to boot the debian installer from a thumbdrive, I realize I can't boot the iso, so I'm wondering how I would go about booting it if the contents of the iso are at (hd0,2)/debian? |
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| 21:43.10 | cardamon | peterrooney: Whatever's standard on Wheezy. I'm not at thee box so I can't tell you. |
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| 21:43.47 | somiaj | damian: the debian iso are hybread, you can use cat or dd and put the image on a thumbdrive and it will boot |
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| 21:44.29 | cardamon | damian: what somiaj said...unless the issue is that your bios either does not support booting to a USB, or it's not enabled. |
| 21:44.37 | peterrooney | cardamon: default of 10 is standard for GNU nice; and the only thing bash has to do with nice is via setting some ulimit values |
| 21:44.43 | dondelelcaro | acu: there may also be an openvpn udeb out there; not sure. |
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| 21:45.26 | damian | sure, but that would require having another partition, I would like to just have one partition for my isos & content-folders |
| 21:45.57 | cardamon | damian: If it's disabled, it's a simple matter to enable it or set the USB to a higher boot priority. Some BIOS even have options to load a list of devices to choose to boot from. |
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| 21:47.07 | cardamon | damian: Not really. You can cat to the drive itself, not the partition, overwriting the partition table. |
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| 21:47.37 | cardamon | Of course, this well ruin any data on the drive that's not what you're writing to it. |
| 21:47.39 | acu | another "silly" questions - if I have a router - which faces the Outside world - with static IP - and an internal "face" for the LAN. In the LAN I have three different machines with distinct static IPs (192.168.0.100 ---101 ---103 ) and each of them works like a webservers - I know that I could assign different ports for each apache webservers lets say for 192.168.0.100 (port 8080) for 101 (port 80) and 102 (port 81) and then configu |
| 21:47.39 | acu | re the router with a Port Range Forwarding for each port - is there other way to set them up ?( let's say I have for each of the webservers a specif faq - e.g. acucorporation.com, dondelelcaro.com and somiajcorporation.com) how would be best to set it up ? |
| 21:47.50 | thermo44 | Hello guys, I don't have access to a internet conection, only wireless, buy in debian I cant connect because of the drivers, so i've downloaded the drivers, and install them with deb-pkg, but do not seem to work |
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| 21:48.09 | cardamon | cat and dd won't care what's already there. It's like painting a wall. Doesn't matter if the walls blank or covered in a mural. |
| 21:48.22 | cardamon | Paint will cover it, and cat will write over it. |
| 21:48.34 | cardamon | ...for as long as you have paint/data to cat |
| 21:49.04 | acu | In other words if I want to keep the same port 80 for each of the three webservers which resides in three distinct internal LAN IP addresses - any hint ? |
| 21:49.08 | peterrooney | acu: you're probably better off using apache VirtualHost |
| 21:49.33 | cardamon | acu: You can do public ports and private ports. |
| 21:49.37 | acu | peterrooney: I use that if all the webservers are in the same machine |
| 21:49.52 | Sevet | acu: hostname only is seen after connecting. a proxy on the router might work if the router allows it but otherwise you can't |
| 21:50.00 | peterrooney | acu: your router would have to have proxy server functionality to pull that off |
| 21:50.02 | PerfDave | acu: You can't port forward from your router to three machines based on hostname, because it's at the wrong level. You'd need an HTTP reverse proxy on the router. |
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| 21:50.19 | PerfDave | Port forwarding happens at the IP layer, HTTP is higher up. |
| 21:50.31 | Sevet | unless you can get 3 static ips assigned |
| 21:50.41 | Sevet | (e.g. get a /29 or something from your isp) |
| 21:51.55 | cardamon | Regarding acu: Yeah, but he CAN set a different public port for each machine, then set the corresponding private port to port 80 on each respective machine. |
| 21:52.19 | PerfDave | cardamon: Yes, but he's said he doesn't want to do that :) |
| 21:52.25 | acu | Sevet: that is another scenario - three of the physical machines can have a public IP (and the router should act as a bridge for them) - that would be clear - but if I want to use LAN IPs then som proxy server functionality router - |
| 21:52.32 | damian | apparently I don't have the iso on this computer... brb |
| 21:52.51 | nsadmin | and only allow one specific machine (or, rather, net card) to get that IP |
| 21:53.02 | acu | cardamon: so have public port 80, 8081, and 8080 and direct each to specific IP with port 80 that's one |
| 21:53.12 | cardamon | Yup. |
| 21:53.18 | acu | I have also to experiment with ipv6 - somebody mentioned about tunneling |
| 21:53.26 | cardamon | tunneling is something else. |
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| 21:53.33 | acu | I did not even look if I can setup godaddy for ipv6 |
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| 21:54.25 | cardamon | Most routers have some kind of external or public vs. internal or private facing ports. |
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| 21:54.52 | cardamon | acu: Just make sure the public ports you pick aren't used by something els youneed. |
| 21:55.22 | acu | anyhow _ I have to leave - but few solutions have sprung - I have to look more carefully - I think Dir655 D-link router my allow that kind of trick |
| 21:56.44 | acu | Thanks a bunch to all of you cardamon (I like it in coffee and tea :) - PerfDave _ I like perfection :) Dondelelcaro , sevet peterrooney and nsadmin - thank you all - see you around - have a nice day |
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| 21:58.49 | acu | I will leave in a sec - but how the big ISPs and datacenters handle hundreds of machines - bridging everything ? |
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| 22:01.00 | acu | But if I have 3 external Public addresses and three internal Machines - with LAN address - is NAT Best solution ? |
| 22:01.13 | acu | Gosh _ I was supposed to be out 20 minutes ago |
| 22:01.37 | PerfDave | acu: Big datacentres have big managed switch infrastructures |
| 22:02.11 | PerfDave | acu: Look up what NAT means :) |
| 22:02.22 | PerfDave | You might use NAT, you might use protocol proxying |
| 22:02.41 | PerfDave | For what you want, a reverse proxy seems the best option |
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| 22:03.00 | iluminator101 | Hi, i changed my pinning and tried to downgrade nothing happened why? |
| 22:03.16 | acu | Perfect PerfDave - thanks again - see you around |
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| 22:03.41 | PerfDave | !downgrade |
| 22:03.41 | dpkg | [downgrade] Downgrading is not possible with apt-get/aptitude and no future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 22:03.54 | PerfDave | iluminator101: You can't downgrade |
| 22:04.18 | iluminator101 | yes you can i did it before |
| 22:04.22 | abrotman | then do it again |
| 22:04.25 | jeward | Okay, I'm losing ground on ssh/X11. I'd like to get to the bottom of or at least understand the problem. |
| 22:04.31 | PerfDave | iluminator101: I bet you didn't :) |
| 22:04.54 | iluminator101 | PerfDave, true not completely certain packages |
| 22:04.57 | jeward | Symptom #1: Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. |
| 22:04.58 | gnarface | jeward: you got the x11 libs on the remote server? it doesn't need a running x server but it does need the libs installed. |
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| 22:05.19 | jeward | Symptom #2: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyxterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0 |
| 22:05.32 | jeward | gnarface: It has xterm installed. |
| 22:05.58 | gnarface | jeward: did you set your user's $DISPLAY shell env var on the remote system? |
| 22:06.12 | jeward | gnarface: Set automagically by ssh. |
| 22:06.20 | PerfDave | jeward: Does the ssh server config allow X forwrding? |
| 22:06.21 | gnarface | jeward: not according to that error |
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| 22:07.00 | jeward | gnarface: I didn't set it manually and it is set: $ echo $DISPLAY |
| 22:07.02 | jeward | localhost:10.0 |
| 22:07.08 | Renski | What advantages does debian have over ubuntu? (not trying to start a distro war, honest) |
| 22:07.29 | gnarface | jeward: "...open display: localhost:10.0" < you're trying to forward X11 over ssh right? shouldn't this be the ip address of the server you're forwarding FROM? and shouldn't it be 0:0 not 10:0 ? |
| 22:07.34 | PerfDave | jeward: Can you launch X apps from the exact local command prompt you ran ssh to? |
| 22:07.36 | jeward | PerfDave: /etc/ssh/ssh_config:ForwardX11 yes |
| 22:07.39 | PerfDave | gnarface: No |
| 22:07.43 | gnarface | jeward: er, sorry the server you're forwarding TO i mean |
| 22:08.20 | PerfDave | gnarface: If it were the Ip address of the machine you're forwarding to, it would be sending raw unencrypted X outside ssh |
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| 22:09.30 | jeward | PerfDave: I have enabled X11 forwarding everywhere I can think of, tried both ssh -X and -Y. |
| 22:10.19 | jeward | PerfDave, Looks like xauth is appropriately located on both ends as well. |
| 22:10.31 | jeward | PerfDave: I'm kind of at a loss. |
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| 22:11.01 | PerfDave | jeward: You've used ssh -v on the client side, maybe sshd -d on the server side, checked logs? |
| 22:11.15 | jeward | PerfDave: Let me do that now. |
| 22:11.20 | jeward | Client side. |
| 22:11.26 | PerfDave | jeward: I think the most important thing is to make sure you can launch local X apps from the xterm you run SSH from |
| 22:12.03 | jeward | Absolutely. |
| 22:12.09 | damian | Renski: Debian doesn't seem to do weird "innovative" crap |
| 22:12.30 | jeward | PerfDave, that is not an issue. What's the command line pastebin app for squeeze? |
| 22:12.38 | Renski | damian: like unity? |
| 22:12.42 | Renski | :) |
| 22:12.43 | damian | yes... |
| 22:12.44 | damian | I use Linux Mint (Ubuntu base) I'm intending on installing the Debian edition |
| 22:12.46 | abrotman | !tell Renski about why debian |
| 22:12.58 | abrotman | damian: and that's not entirely true |
| 22:13.01 | Renski | ty abrotman |
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| 22:13.22 | damian | !tell damian about why debian |
| 22:13.27 | damian | :( |
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| 22:13.29 | abrotman | !tell damian about selftell |
| 22:13.43 | PerfDave | I use Debian for the commitment to free software, the rock-solid stability and the unbeatable quality assurance, on my servers and laptops. |
| 22:13.44 | damian | didn't work :/ |
| 22:13.58 | abrotman | damian: see your msg window |
| 22:13.59 | PerfDave | I've had to use Ubuntu at work and it was bloody awful. |
| 22:14.04 | damian | ah I see |
| 22:14.10 | jeward | PerfDave: http://pastebin.com/sF3FTYAq |
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| 22:14.43 | Renski | PerfDave: thats all well and good, but openjdk suks. Is it still easy enough to install non free software, like in ubuntus partner sources? |
| 22:14.59 | jeward | PerfDave:It complains that there's no xauth, but there is. |
| 22:15.00 | damian | I prefer free/opensource, but if proprietary is performs better, I'll use it (nvidia driver) |
| 22:15.13 | t0ny-p40 | ls |
| 22:15.16 | abrotman | better at what cost .. |
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| 22:15.20 | t0ny-p40 | wrong window. lol |
| 22:15.28 | abrotman | no kidding? :) |
| 22:15.35 | jelly-home | abrotman: $0 and inability to file kernel bugs? |
| 22:15.36 | PerfDave | Renski: No idea, I don't use proprietary software. |
| 22:15.49 | PerfDave | abrotman: Remote root vulnerabilities in the nvidia case :) |
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| 22:15.57 | Renski | PerfDave: I can live with the guilt :) |
| 22:16.01 | jeward | PerfDave: $ which xauth |
| 22:16.02 | jeward | /usr/bin/xauth |
| 22:16.03 | abrotman | watches PerfDave and jelly-home fight it out |
| 22:16.09 | Dagger3 | Renski: there's a non-free repository; the installer asks you if you want to use it |
| 22:16.14 | PerfDave | jeward: Is $PATH on the remote server set to something odd? |
| 22:16.15 | abrotman | no it doesn't |
| 22:16.16 | Renski | Dagger3: nice |
| 22:16.19 | BradUsesMac | Yo |
| 22:16.28 | BradUsesMac | Can I get some help with Debian? |
| 22:16.28 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: we gave you an exception :) |
| 22:16.36 | BradUsesMac | Thanks so much, abrotman |
| 22:16.36 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: PPC or x86? |
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| 22:16.41 | BradUsesMac | PPC |
| 22:16.51 | Dagger3 | (though I have no idea how much software it has compared to Ubuntu) |
| 22:16.52 | jeward | PerfDave: /home/jeward/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/usr/local/plan9/bin:/usr/local/plan9/bin |
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| 22:17.07 | PerfDave | jeward: Mmm plan9 |
| 22:17.16 | BradUsesMac | I should probably explain my problem, no? |
| 22:17.19 | PerfDave | jeward: TBH I'm stumped, and off to bed - try asking #openssh? |
| 22:17.27 | PerfDave | BradUsesMac: It's OK, we're all psychic in here |
| 22:17.33 | BradUsesMac | lol |
| 22:17.38 | jeward | PerfDave: Thanks for trying! |
| 22:17.45 | BradUsesMac | Ok, so my Mac is refusing to boot Gnome |
| 22:17.47 | PerfDave | BradUsesMac: The answer is to install a new bootloader |
| 22:18.00 | BradUsesMac | I just get a blank screen with a blinking underscore |
| 22:18.03 | abrotman | it is? |
| 22:18.05 | BradUsesMac | New bootloader? |
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| 22:18.13 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: how did you install the ati/nvidia driver oyu're using ? |
| 22:18.21 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: and 'lspci -nn' .. what is your video card? |
| 22:18.39 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: it boots right? you can log in, but when you run startx it does this? or do you mean that's after powering up? |
| 22:18.39 | BradUsesMac | ATI Rage (I think) |
| 22:18.54 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: which mac? |
| 22:19.09 | BradUsesMac | gnarface - After I boot up and get past the shell launching sequence |
| 22:19.18 | BradUsesMac | oh, ibook G3 |
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| 22:19.23 | BradUsesMac | Clamshel;l |
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| 22:19.30 | BradUsesMac | Clamshell* |
| 22:19.43 | amphi | BradUsesMac: huh, I installed debian on one of them, a good while back |
| 22:19.55 | BradUsesMac | amphi - did it work? |
| 22:19.57 | jdahm | hi I just installed debian stable, and when I go to reboot I get a grub error "cannot find device <UUID>". I remmeber the installer successfully installed grub on /dev/sda which is where it should be, but there seems to be an error. I restarted from the debian install cd, but when I type "grub-installer /dev/sda" to verify, that command gives me an error about "wrong number of arguments: mapdevfs |
| 22:19.58 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: yea that video card is the M rage 128 right? that's actually a mach64 chip, fyi. it helps to know that sometimes with X |
| 22:19.59 | jdahm | <path>". So what tool should I use to reinstall grub? |
| 22:20.02 | amphi | BradUsesMac: yes |
| 22:20.31 | BradUsesMac | gnarface - I guess. I already messed around with X |
| 22:20.48 | amphi | BradUsesMac: it might be worth trying to boot it with 'nomodeset' on the kernel command line, and see if that helps |
| 22:20.56 | BradUsesMac | I gave it some random driver rather then the r264 (or something like that) |
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| 22:21.12 | BradUsesMac | amphi - nomodeset? |
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| 22:21.19 | PerfDave | !ppc |
| 22:21.19 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 22:21.24 | amphi | random drivers rarely work, in my experience |
| 22:21.28 | egoga | I'm trying to upgrade to wheezy and it says "gconf2 |
| 22:21.33 | arghx | jdahm: did you use LVM, RAID or some other specialty? |
| 22:21.38 | egoga | I'm trying to upgrade to wheezy and it says errors like "gconf-defaults-service : Depends: gconf2-common (< 2.29) but 2.32.4-1 is installed" |
| 22:21.40 | amphi | BradUsesMac: to disable kernel video mode switching |
| 22:21.50 | egoga | apt-get dist-upgrade gives me this error |
| 22:21.51 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: the 'ati' driver is, i think a parent driver that *should* generally autodetect and pick the correct sub driver but you can also pick them directly (sometimes autodetection fails) |
| 22:21.57 | BradUsesMac | amphi - would gnome boot? |
| 22:22.07 | jdahm | arghx: my / and /home are on md0 and md1, but the /boot is on sda1 |
| 22:22.12 | amphi | BradUsesMac: but it sounds like it might be worth taking a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log first |
| 22:22.19 | BradUsesMac | gnarface - in this case I believe it did |
| 22:22.20 | egoga | and this is my sources.list: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free [CR] deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-proposed-updates main contrib non-free |
| 22:22.26 | amphi | BradUsesMac: no idea - kms *might* be the problem |
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| 22:22.50 | BradUsesMac | amphi - alright, I'll boot the accursed machine now |
| 22:23.07 | jdahm | arghx: it seemed to find it during installation just fine so I assumed it set it up with the proper settings |
| 22:23.08 | amphi | BradUsesMac: it worked for someone else with a ppc mac recently, but they got no display at all, even in a text VT |
| 22:23.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps I got some long directories and I Want to shorten getting there.. can I make an alias to it? I forgot whats the proper way.. |
| 22:23.27 | BradUsesMac | amphi - I hope it works for me |
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| 22:23.50 | jdahm | Eryn_1983_FL: yes just alias hwdir='/home/Eryn/homework/' for instance |
| 22:24.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | then cd $hwdir? |
| 22:24.14 | amphi | Eryn_1983_FL: or use ln(1) to make a symbolic link |
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| 22:24.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | i don't want symbolic links |
| 22:24.39 | jdahm | oh wait, you can do alias hwdir='cd /home/Eryn/homework' |
| 22:24.46 | jdahm | my first comment was incorrect |
| 22:24.57 | BradUsesMac | amphi - it says that the xorg log is not found |
| 22:25.17 | jdahm | Eryn_1983_FL: you need zsh for the other type of alias |
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| 22:25.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | ... |
| 22:25.27 | jdahm | Eryn_1983_FL: but it is possible in zsh |
| 22:25.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | but i want to be able to ls on it too. |
| 22:25.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | i like bash.. |
| 22:25.39 | jdahm | Eryn_1983_FL: yes zsh has that |
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| 22:25.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | maybe they know a way in their channel |
| 22:25.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | i will ask tonight |
| 22:26.04 | jdahm | arghx: any idea? |
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| 22:29.28 | qwesi | I remember reading about a package that replayed responses based on certain events over the network. . .it was a long time ago . . .basically I want to watch serial data from an TCP device and trigger another amp to start over TCP as well . . . any thoughts welcome |
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| 22:31.58 | Bushmills | ngrep? |
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| 22:32.42 | brainsoft | how do i install a windowmaker selector so be able to pick a wm when starting X? i wanna use sometimes gnome3 others xfce4 |
| 22:33.03 | Bushmills | hm.. replay... not that one |
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| 22:34.16 | Bushmills | brainsoft: a display manager with selection support, choosewm, or qingy would all do |
| 22:34.37 | qwesi | Brainsoft: checking ngrep looks handy . . .but this was a more specific package for responding to expected results |
| 22:35.31 | Bushmills | brainsoft may now wonder how ngrep relates to his wm chooser |
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| 22:37.17 | qwesi | sorry :-) tired here in London . . .Bushmills :-) |
| 22:38.22 | Bushmills | like ... an injector? such as ettercap? |
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| 22:39.46 | jdahm | does squeeze use grub or grub2? |
| 22:39.51 | Bushmills | or simply a netcat listener? |
| 22:40.29 | Bushmills | has both. default is afaik v1.999 which is about v2 |
| 22:41.01 | qwesi | Bushmills: checking . . . netcat |
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| 22:44.25 | aborrero | hi there |
| 22:45.13 | BradUsesMac | Everyone, my Mac says I have no screen on Debian! Can anyone help? |
| 22:45.56 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: x11 autodetection probably fails catastrophically on macs. you probably need to make an /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 22:46.11 | BradUsesMac | gnarface - I did |
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| 22:46.26 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: did you add a modeline for the weird display shape? |
| 22:46.50 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: modeline? weird display shape? |
| 22:46.57 | BradUsesMac | :s |
| 22:47.09 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: what is your lcd native display resolution on that mac? |
| 22:47.21 | BradUsesMac | shrugs |
| 22:47.29 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: you'll probably need to know that |
| 22:47.45 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: hang on, and I'll get it |
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| 22:49.18 | BradUsesMac | gnarface - sorry, my computer is being slow today |
| 22:49.29 | streuner | lewis__: dont IRC as root, logout and login as user |
| 22:49.42 | jhutchins_lt | BradUsesMac: Try it first without the xorg.conf |
| 22:50.05 | BradUsesMac | jhutchins_lt: I was before |
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| 22:51.04 | gnarface | jhutchins_lt: he's using a mac. it never works. |
| 22:51.15 | jhutchins_lt | gnarface: It's the place to start. |
| 22:51.21 | streuner | only in OSX :-) |
| 22:51.29 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: this happens often? |
| 22:51.34 | gnarface | jhutchins_lt: we're already past that |
| 22:51.41 | jhutchins_lt | gnarface: Every linux installation I've done on a mac autoconfigured just fine. |
| 22:51.44 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: i've put linux on a lot of mac laptops |
| 22:52.07 | jhutchins_lt | gnarface: If you know about newer ones that need manual config I'll defer to you. |
| 22:52.08 | gnarface | jhutchins_lt: well lucky you |
| 22:52.16 | tomodachi | well if its the macbook pro, its more complicated, at least thats my experience |
| 22:52.25 | tomodachi | BradUsesMac: |
| 22:52.32 | BradUsesMac | Yes? |
| 22:52.47 | gnarface | jhutchins_lt: the issue started when they went to weird aspect ratios. their display resolutions are all around like 50-100px off from normal ones |
| 22:52.49 | aborrero | this morning I installed a Sunfire debian server, with scsi disk (no raid). I set LVM across the disk, but when the installation ends, I can't boot due to can't find logical volumes ¿any idea? |
| 22:53.39 | gnarface | jhutchins_lt: most the video cards they use are already supported but most those drivers require modelines for the weird widescreens |
| 22:53.42 | aborrero | before formating, I had RHEL over LVM (same hardware) with no special trick |
| 22:53.55 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: I opened up the Wikipedia page. What did you need to know about the screen? |
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| 22:54.05 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: no you do |
| 22:54.19 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: ok |
| 22:54.20 | aborrero | I looked at /dev/mapper/ but there aren't lvm volumes there |
| 22:54.28 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: what now?? |
| 22:54.34 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: if you google around someone probably has listed the known modeline for your particular model somewhere |
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| 22:54.54 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: if worst comes to worst google for a modeline creator app and get it to fudge one for you based on that display resolution |
| 22:55.18 | BradUsesMac | O, I should mention that Debian said I have no display drivers |
| 22:55.31 | BradUsesMac | Or a screen, for that matter |
| 22:55.32 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: also, fyi there's a ppc debian channel here on freenode. i think its like #debian-ppc or #debianppc |
| 22:55.48 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: oh, this is the machine you're currently *on* ? |
| 22:55.54 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: I tried that. It's dead over there |
| 22:56.01 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: you can google with lynx |
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| 22:56.01 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: no |
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| 22:56.16 | BradUsesMac | I'm on my second PC |
| 22:56.34 | starenka | hi, i was experimenting with awesome, but i ended up w/ blank screen. i would like to at least revert back to kde, but i can't find where the session manager is confed. i've tried to change it via update-alternatives, but it doesn't work. any idea (testing) |
| 22:56.37 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: hmm. i'm confused then. you're aware you can edit text files from the console right? you can create your xorg.conf on that machine no problem but you have to get the modeline first. |
| 22:56.55 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: yeah |
| 22:57.00 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: on some models you may have to add some other things (like PCI bus id for the video card) to the xorg.conf too |
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| 22:57.07 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: I can do all that stuff |
| 22:57.16 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: I do? |
| 22:57.39 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: not necessarily. i don't know for sure with your model |
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| 22:57.48 | BradUsesMac | So, are you saying I'm gonna be here all night? |
| 22:57.54 | BradUsesMac | ._. |
| 22:57.56 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: probably. |
| 22:57.57 | aborrero | this morning I installed a debian server, (an old sunfire server) with SCSI disk (no raid). I set LVM across the disk, but when the installation ends, I can't boot due to can't find logical volumes ¿any idea? I looked into /dev/mapper/ and there aren't anything related to LVM |
| 22:58.05 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: pastebin your xorg.conf as it is right now. |
| 22:58.07 | emorris | Is it possible to get rid of the accessibility icon out the notification area? I tried disabling it from startup applications, but it still launches. I'm not bothered whether the accessibility stuff is started or not. |
| 22:58.13 | PerfDave | aborrero: This is on sparc? |
| 22:58.21 | BradUsesMac | Oh boy. Another night sitting at a computer |
| 22:58.36 | aborrero | PerfDave not clear, first contact with the machine. |
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| 22:59.03 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: can we Private Chat? This is confusing |
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| 22:59.18 | nsadmin | BradUsesMac, are you gonna be here all night? I dunno... what would drive that? |
| 22:59.50 | BradUsesMac | nsadmin: fixing my mac |
| 23:00.09 | nsadmin | your mac? what's wrong with it? |
| 23:00.13 | aborrero | PerdDave sunfire v60x |
| 23:00.27 | aborrero | PerfDave sunfire v60x * |
| 23:01.13 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: How do I open my xorg file again? |
| 23:01.25 | streuner | nsadmin: apple doesnt give a damn about Linux... |
| 23:01.26 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: we could get lucky. check out the command cvt |
| 23:01.37 | BradUsesMac | command cvt? |
| 23:01.51 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: it creates modelines |
| 23:02.06 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: to open your xorg.conf i recommend using nano since its your first time |
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| 23:02.23 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: I always use Nano |
| 23:02.45 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... didn't you say you had already created one? |
| 23:02.59 | BradUsesMac | Yeah, but I forgot the command |
| 23:03.03 | nsadmin | so you're past the point where debian claims no screen? |
| 23:03.10 | BradUsesMac | I'm bad with these things |
| 23:03.18 | nsadmin | get good. |
| 23:03.49 | gnarface | get good or at least learn to use your command history |
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| 23:04.41 | BradUsesMac | Okay, I've opened the file |
| 23:04.50 | BradUsesMac | Now what? |
| 23:05.32 | nsadmin | you're just describing a snapshot in time... if you say you're bad with something that is key and you also say that's not going to change, that would be a problem,,, it would necessitate people answering your questions more than once |
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| 23:06.36 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: what do I do after I open xorg? |
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| 23:06.44 | nsadmin | not saying I expect immediate perfection... but I absolutely expect willingness to go to places that might expand your comfort zone |
| 23:06.52 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: you should use pastebinit to paste bin it |
| 23:07.00 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: so that we can see what you see |
| 23:07.00 | BradUsesMac | paste bin? |
| 23:07.09 | BradUsesMac | It's not connected to the net |
| 23:07.09 | streuner | nsadmin: dreamer :-) |
| 23:07.16 | brainsoft | is there any way of having gnome2 and gnome3 and be able to select them when you need? |
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| 23:07.36 | nsadmin | streuner, yes, and I speak my dream |
| 23:07.44 | streuner | nsadmin: :-) |
| 23:07.46 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: it's not conected to the net |
| 23:07.53 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: oh well you need to find out what section to put the modeline in. i suggest running the command "man xorg.conf" in another terminal |
| 23:08.10 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: ok |
| 23:08.42 | nsadmin | a good start would be for Brad to acknowledge it |
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| 23:09.18 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: what am I looking for? |
| 23:09.19 | jhutchins_lt | !gnome3 |
| 23:09.19 | dpkg | GNOME 3 is the new and not yet complete version of the GNOME desktop environment. Bits of it are starting to work their way into Debian unstable at the moment and wheezy will release with it. See http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html for details. Also ask me about <install gnome>, <gnome-shell>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/04/msg00111.html |
| 23:09.44 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: in the man page? you're looking for the part where it talks about modelines |
| 23:10.08 | damian | dpkg: CRAP! |
| 23:10.08 | dpkg | i guess crap is if its not crap, its hilarious |
| 23:10.33 | damian | uh.... |
| 23:10.51 | damian | unexpected >.> |
| 23:11.22 | nsadmin | it might also be useful for you to get from that page how the config document should be structured |
| 23:11.52 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: uh, I kinda need to leave for a little while. How long will you be online? |
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| 23:12.22 | nsadmin | tell him you have a life outside of giving free help |
| 23:12.27 | gnarface | BradUsesMac: for at least 60 years. but the periods of time during which i will be playing world of warcraft are TBD |
| 23:12.38 | streuner | nsadmin: haha |
| 23:12.55 | BradUsesMac | gnarface: alright, I'll just come on later |
| 23:13.02 | nsadmin | that gets the point across nicely |
| 23:13.03 | BradUsesMac | Bye, evryone |
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| 23:14.17 | damian | I should have mentioned I want to boot "Linux Mint Debian Edition", but should be the same. I took a look at the iso of LMDE, the folder structure is very simple: /casper and /isolinux. |
| 23:14.32 | streuner | gnarface told him everything, but he didnt unterstand... |
| 23:15.22 | damian | It seems all I have to do to make it boot is to put "live-media-path=/LMDE/casper" in the kernel parameters |
| 23:16.01 | brainsoft | gnome3 is the worst crap ive ever seen. now i have to run stable and cant have sid packages anymore and need to reinstall another partition to be able to use gnome2 |
| 23:16.03 | damian | anyone know if that should work with grub to make it boot {contents of iso extracted to a folder}? |
| 23:16.24 | damian | brainsoft: yeah.... I hate that |
| 23:17.11 | damian | I don't understand why Ubunu made Unity, they would have been better off modifying GNOME3 when it was released |
| 23:17.11 | nsadmin | brainsoft, sid packages on stable is -not- recommended |
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| 23:18.07 | damian | but they both suck, so it doesn't really matter |
| 23:18.29 | emorris | I basically moved to Debian because of gnome3 and debian. |
| 23:18.34 | emorris | and unity* |
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| 23:19.01 | streuner | emorris: if thats the only reason, i can say only, Amen. |
| 23:19.02 | brainsoft | i cant find a way of properly working with gnome3 shit |
| 23:19.04 | nsadmin | so you moved to debian because of debian... |
| 23:19.08 | nsadmin | ok:) |
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| 23:19.42 | damian | I moved to Linux Mint because of Unity and other junk, now I have to move to LMDE because Mint (Ubuntu) seems like it is getting infected |
| 23:19.47 | nsadmin | it's one of the better, more advocable reasons I've heard... |
| 23:19.48 | emorris | streuner, ok, also ubuntu is as unstable as diaorreah |
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| 23:20.55 | emorris | isn't sure that was a good analogy in hindsight |
| 23:20.57 | nsadmin | brainsoft, might be good to learn your shell while you're at this gnome thing... |
| 23:21.36 | nsadmin | little earthquake near Berkeley about an hour ago... |
| 23:22.08 | streuner | its normal in california, isnt it? |
| 23:22.20 | aborrero | this morning I installed a debian server, (an old sunfire server) with SCSI disk (no raid). I set LVM across the disk, but when the installation ends, I can't boot due to can't find logical volumes ¿any idea? I looked into /dev/mapper/ and there aren't anything related to LVM |
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| 23:23.46 | nsadmin | well that particular quake was very close to the Hayward Fault |
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| 23:25.41 | BradUsesMac | I'm back |
| 23:25.58 | nsadmin | whaddya know... my lil m-audio midisport works... |
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| 23:26.28 | BradUsesMac | gnarface, you still here? |
| 23:28.22 | BradUsesMac | He's probably playing WoW -.-' |
| 23:29.07 | jhutchins_lt | BradUsesMac: What's the question? |
| 23:29.45 | BradUsesMac | jhutchins_lt: He wanted to know something about my mode lines |
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| 23:30.14 | streuner | BradUsesMac: and he told you to google for it |
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| 23:30.54 | streuner | BradUsesMac: besides, there is always VESA |
| 23:31.11 | BradUsesMac | streuner: for something that I need to input into a modeline, yes |
| 23:31.21 | BradUsesMac | Vesa won't work |
| 23:31.25 | abrotman | is the monitor weird? |
| 23:31.26 | streuner | why |
| 23:31.37 | jhutchins_lt | BradUsesMac: google your mac model + xorg |
| 23:31.45 | streuner | BradUsesMac: VESA should always work... |
| 23:32.07 | BradUsesMac | It says that I don't have the driver |
| 23:32.16 | jhutchins_lt | BradUsesMac: Install it. |
| 23:32.30 | streuner | yes, and in this case VESA comes into this game |
| 23:32.43 | BradUsesMac | install xserver-xorg-video-vesa |
| 23:33.10 | BradUsesMac | It says I don't have a Vesa driver either |
| 23:33.50 | jhutchins_lt | BradUsesMac: What says? What are you installing from? |
| 23:34.19 | BradUsesMac | jhutschins_lt: no, my mac |
| 23:34.22 | streuner | MBP's are a bitch, because they use newest stuff |
| 23:34.40 | BradUsesMac | This one is old |
| 23:34.43 | streuner | its often not supported by Linux |
| 23:34.46 | streuner | ok |
| 23:34.49 | BradUsesMac | iBook G3 from 2000 |
| 23:35.10 | streuner | BradUsesMac: there are entries in wiki.debian.org |
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| 23:35.37 | BradUsesMac | I wouldn't know what to look for |
| 23:35.45 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: did you install the 'xorg' package? |
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| 23:35.47 | egoga | Could anyone help me to fix my squeeze + a few wheezy packages install to make it all wheezy? |
| 23:35.54 | egoga | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 23:35.54 | egoga | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-proposed-updates main contrib non-free |
| 23:36.00 | egoga | That is my apt/sources.list |
| 23:36.04 | abrotman | !tell egoga about squeeze->wheezy |
| 23:36.14 | egoga | Now when I try to do stuff like apt-get update, it works fine |
| 23:36.33 | egoga | then when I type apt-get dist-upgrade, it gives me the same errors it always gave because I added some wheezy only packages to install wine 1.3.28 |
| 23:36.48 | BradUsesMac | abrotman: xorg package? |
| 23:37.09 | abrotman | yes .. have you installed the xorg package ? |
| 23:37.19 | BradUsesMac | I think |
| 23:37.23 | abrotman | egoga: paste teh full error in a pastebin ... and maybe use aptitude instead |
| 23:37.28 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: don't think .. double check |
| 23:37.30 | egoga | alright |
| 23:37.31 | BradUsesMac | I can access xorg, if that's what you mean |
| 23:38.25 | abrotman | it's a package .. is it installed? |
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| 23:38.52 | BradUsesMac | I can access xorg, |
| 23:39.30 | abrotman | that is NOT what i'm asking |
| 23:39.43 | nsadmin | dpkg -s xorg | grep Status |
| 23:39.44 | dpkg | Package: xorg | grep Status: Status: install ok installed |
| 23:39.46 | BradUsesMac | How do I tell? |
| 23:39.48 | abrotman | if you don't know how to check if a package is installed .. ask ... |
| 23:39.58 | abrotman | nsadmin: wtf |
| 23:40.05 | nsadmin | wouldn't that do it? |
| 23:40.33 | nsadmin | wouldn't you get the Status: installed ok installed line? |
| 23:40.46 | BradUsesMac | idk |
| 23:41.06 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: apt-cache policy xorg .. what is after the 'Installed' field ? |
| 23:41.34 | BradUsesMac | Waiting for it to load |
| 23:41.57 | nsadmin | you mean it's in the middle of installing something? |
| 23:42.18 | BradUsesMac | No, I need it to boot |
| 23:42.47 | abrotman | egoga: how's it going ? |
| 23:42.55 | BradUsesMac | Installed |
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| 23:43.06 | BradUsesMac | xorg is installed |
| 23:43.18 | Crshman | hey all, for some reason I can't check any of the boxes in the software sources window |
| 23:43.27 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: that machine probably uses an r128 .. it shouldn't be complicated |
| 23:43.31 | Crshman | This is a fresh install of debian testing, and the window is run as superuser |
| 23:43.34 | Crshman | any ideas? |
| 23:43.42 | abrotman | Crshman: you didn't run the package manager as root ? |
| 23:43.54 | nsadmin | ls |
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| 23:44.03 | abrotman | no! |
| 23:44.10 | nsadmin | yes!! |
| 23:44.18 | nsadmin | wait, no |
| 23:44.20 | BradUsesMac | abrotman: it does |
| 23:44.31 | abrotman | it does what ? |
| 23:44.44 | BradUsesMac | use a r128 |
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| 23:44.48 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: did you install some weird driver? |
| 23:45.08 | Crshman | abrotman: I did run it as root |
| 23:45.26 | BradUsesMac | abrotman: no |
| 23:45.36 | jhutchins_lt | BradUsesMac: You do know testing is not intended to be a functional release yet, right? |
| 23:45.42 | egoga | ok I pastebinned it |
| 23:45.45 | egoga | http://pastebin.com/86t5ZEkW |
| 23:45.51 | BradUsesMac | abrotman: wait,yes |
| 23:45.54 | egoga | then when I type apt-get dist-upgrade, it gives me the same errors it always gave because I added some wheezy only packages to install wine 1.3.28 |
| 23:46.14 | abrotman | egoga: use aptitude |
| 23:46.20 | BradUsesMac | abrotman: I switched r128 with vesa in the xorg thing |
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| 23:46.37 | egoga | Ok, I tried aptitude... it was taking an exorbitantly long about of time, but it worked. |
| 23:46.51 | abrotman | egoga: use a pastebin .. i want the output of all of these commands "cat /etc/apt/sources.list;apt-cache policy;aptitude upate;aptitude full-upgrade" |
| 23:47.27 | abrotman | so wait .. aptitude works .. apt-get doesn't .. and you're still complaining about it taking a long time? |
| 23:47.38 | egoga | no |
| 23:47.51 | egoga | It took a long time before any stdout output was displayed in the terminal window |
| 23:48.07 | BradUsesMac | Should I just reinstall with the full version instead of the net install? |
| 23:48.14 | Gm4n | when creating a mdadm raid, do I create it with the devices themselves or the partitions? (eg, with /dev/sd{a,b,c} or with /dev/sd{a,b,c}1?) |
| 23:48.25 | abrotman | egoga: that might happen .. |
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| 23:48.58 | streuner | BradUsesMac: there are entries in wiki.debian.orgb |
| 23:49.07 | streuner | BradUsesMac: uhm, no. |
| 23:49.44 | BradUsesMac | streuner: why not? |
| 23:49.51 | egoga | What is the difference between aptitude dist-uprgrade and aptitude full-upgrade |
| 23:49.57 | egoga | Should I type dist or full |
| 23:50.46 | babilen | dist- is the old name for full-upgrade, but still recognised as a synonym |
| 23:50.54 | streuner | BradUsesMac: you already have Debian installed, everythink could be fixed |
| 23:51.38 | BradUsesMac | Streuner: fine... Private chat? |
| 23:51.47 | abrotman | please don't |
| 23:51.54 | BradUsesMac | This is confusing out here |
| 23:52.00 | streuner | BradUsesMac: no, just leave it into the channel here |
| 23:52.03 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: has anyone told you about #debianppc on irc.oftc.net ? |
| 23:52.14 | streuner | sure |
| 23:52.32 | jhutchins_lt | egoga: Which guide are you following? |
| 23:52.39 | jhutchins_lt | egoga: Which releases? |
| 23:53.00 | BradUsesMac | debianppc is dead |
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| 23:53.11 | BradUsesMac | '-.- |
| 23:53.22 | damian | if only sony didn't kill the PS3 |
| 23:53.53 | abrotman | BradUsesMac: on OFTC .. not here |
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| 23:54.08 | BradUsesMac | OFTC? |
| 23:54.15 | damian | same here, ? |
| 23:54.19 | abrotman | didn't i just say irc.oftc.net ? |
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| 23:54.27 | damian | oh |
| 23:54.30 | streuner | BradUsesMac: irc.debian.org |
| 23:54.36 | abrotman | no .. irc.oftc.net |
| 23:54.47 | streuner | its the same :-) |
| 23:54.51 | streuner | isnt it? |
| 23:54.53 | damian | I want to dump the contents of the LMDE iso to a thumbdrive and boot it. According to (iso)/isolinux/isolinux.cfg it seems all I have to do to make it boot from grub is to put "live-media-path=/LMDE/casper" in the kernel parameters. Anyone know if that will work or if there is anything else I will have to deal with? |
| 23:55.39 | abrotman | streuner: more confusing |
| 23:55.49 | BradUsesMac | I'll use all of them and slow down my old 1998 PC even more |
| 23:56.01 | streuner | abrotman: yes, and you make more confusing :-) |
| 23:56.15 | abrotman | damian: why are you asking us? Mint has their own support channel |
| 23:56.23 | abrotman | streuner: i didn't name the other name .. you did |
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| 23:56.48 | babilen | !tell damian -about lmde |
| 23:56.58 | BradUsesMac | Have asny of you been to oftc.net lately? |
| 23:57.04 | BradUsesMac | any |
| 23:57.19 | abrotman | i'm there now |
| 23:57.30 | BradUsesMac | It says it's pkl.net |
| 23:57.31 | streuner | BradUsesMac: most of all of us are there.... |
| 23:57.58 | BradUsesMac | It says it's pkl.net (repeated) |
| 23:58.00 | abrotman | irc.oftc.net ? |
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| 23:58.22 | BradUsesMac | abrotman: yes |
| 23:58.46 | damian | They aren't the same exact thing, but add the mint repos and tweak some stuff and voila, LMDE |
| 23:58.47 | BradUsesMac | It says there is a spon |
| 23:58.57 | BradUsesMac | spoon* |
| 23:59.18 | abrotman | damian: if it were Debian, it would be called Debian ... ask them, not us .. End of discussion. |
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