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| 00:02.33 | TJNII | So if I try "apt-get install libgcc1" it tells me it is already at the newest version. How do I flag that I need the 32bit library? |
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| 00:02.57 | TJNII | I see there is a lib64 package, but that's no the one I'm trying... |
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| 00:05.26 | TJNII | Oh, do I need a chroot for this? |
| 00:05.55 | Tril | that works. not sure if there's another way |
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| 00:06.53 | TJNII | I found an admin guide that's pointed me at ia32-libs, I'm trying that. |
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| 00:07.04 | TJNII | Otherwise it looks like I need to trod the chroot path. |
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| 00:13.14 | zophy | the cups web page used to look pretty |
| 00:13.17 | zophy | now it's bland |
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| 00:14.38 | TJNII | Tril: |
| 00:14.46 | TJNII | Tril: That lib worked |
| 00:14.50 | TJNII | Thanks for the pointer. |
| 00:15.23 | TJNII | Now, however, it has failed because I didn't have an X server running, but conveniently ejected the dvd anyways. |
| 00:15.40 | TJNII | traipses off to the server to push the tray back in |
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| 00:42.28 | TJNII | "libaudiofile.so.0 is needed by msa1500flash-7.00-7.i386" Why in the heck does a SAN firmware update utility link against sound libraries? |
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| 00:43.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | there doesn't appear to be a package called that in debian |
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| 00:44.23 | TJNII | Yea, it isn't officially supported on Debian |
| 00:44.38 | TJNII | I'm trying to shoehorn it in so I can flash this SAN, and it isn't cooperating |
| 00:44.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | guess its linking is your/its developers problem then :) |
| 00:45.27 | TJNII | I'm about to stick another disk in the box and put RHEL or SLES on it just for the sole purpose of running this damned program. |
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| 01:03.06 | buhman | Jul 10 06:25:08 server1 rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="5.8.2" x-pid="29743" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] rsyslogd was HUPed |
| 01:03.09 | buhman | what's going on? |
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| 01:04.16 | Dulak | something sent a HUP signal to rsyslogd, which usually happens when a log is rotated, afaik |
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| 01:09.39 | simonlnu | buhman: man kill for HUP |
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| 01:11.32 | buhman | Dulak: but messages is empty except for that |
| 01:11.46 | buhman | Dulak: over a month ago |
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| 01:13.25 | cthuluh | perhaps nothing else had to be logged in /var/log/messages? |
| 01:14.00 | Dulak | buhman: no idea, but /var/log/messages should have a LOT of stuff. Make sure rsyslogd is running |
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| 01:15.15 | Free_Bullets | hello, I broke my X server in the process of installing nvidia drivers |
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| 01:15.46 | Free_Bullets | i'm not really sure where to begin |
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| 01:16.55 | Free_Bullets | i installed the driver from the experimental repo, but i ended up with an older kernel module somehow, which of course didn't work |
| 01:17.34 | simonlnu | you can choose which one in aptitude |
| 01:17.59 | Free_Bullets | i got a new module built, but X still isn't working |
| 01:18.25 | Free_Bullets | X fails to load the nvidia kernel module |
| 01:19.28 | Free_Bullets | and tells me to look in the kernel log, but the log is a bit cryptic to me |
| 01:19.44 | buhman | I cat'ed /etc/localtime and now my terminal is fsked up |
| 01:19.56 | cthuluh | Dulak: not for all types of machines ; servers generally don't reboot often, thus you generally get less stuff in /var/log/messages (and buhman's machine seems to be a server) |
| 01:20.01 | Riviera | buhman: try "reset" or "tput reset" |
| 01:20.12 | buhman | Riviera: reset worked |
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| 01:20.56 | Free_Bullets | I see "No NVIDIA graphics adapter probed!" in my kernel log, is that a problem? |
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| 01:23.10 | Tril | Free_Bullets: reboot... |
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| 01:24.03 | buhman | I just set my timezone with dpkg-reconfigure timezone; but I get http://paste.pocoo.org/show/499815/ |
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| 01:26.14 | batouzo | hello, in debian stable, will there be patches to kernel that fully supports AMD Buldozer kernels? |
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| 01:26.51 | buhman | I strace'ed date and it open("/usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago", O_RDONLY) = 3 |
| 01:27.13 | buhman | but the /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime are Europe/London |
| 01:27.19 | buhman | what is going on here? |
| 01:28.03 | Tril | buhman: check environment variables? TZ? |
| 01:28.20 | buhman | Tril: ahh |
| 01:28.31 | buhman | Tril: and where is that being set probably? |
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| 01:28.46 | Free_Bullets | Tril: rebooted; now the only lines that mention nvidia are sound devices. I don't have a nvidia sound card... |
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| 01:30.48 | Tril | buhman: /etc/profile ? or ~/.profile ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile |
| 01:31.05 | Tril | Free_Bullets: modprobe nvidia; lsmod |grep nvidia |
| 01:31.24 | Free_Bullets | Tril: module nvidia not found |
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| 01:32.11 | Tril | Free_Bullets: your nvidia.ko didn't get installed into place under /lib/modules/<kver> ... |
| 01:33.09 | buhman | Tril: .profile; thanks :D |
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| 01:35.23 | Free_Bullets | Tril: sorry, but how do i install the kernel module once it's built with dkms? |
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| 01:36.23 | Tril | Free_Bullets: are you using package nvidia-kernel-dkms from non-free? It usually installs it automatically |
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| 01:37.38 | Free_Bullets | Tril: yeah. i don't think it did. i think i figured out how to install it though. |
| 01:38.01 | gnarface | ok lets say my mouse has TWO scroll wheels. if i add a line to xorg.conf to enable the second one will i be able to horizontally scroll? if so, what's the line? |
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| 01:38.09 | gnarface | if not, what do i have to do? |
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| 01:41.55 | Tril | gnarface: before mucking with xorg.conf, run "xev &" from a terminal window and move your mouse over the xev box and try pressing all buttons and wheels, while watching the terminal output..to verify what button numbers it thinks you are pressing |
| 01:42.13 | Tril | if it finds your buttons but they're not doin what you want, you can use xmodmap to change the button order |
| 01:42.48 | Tril | does not know horizontal scrolling though |
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| 01:44.21 | gnarface | Tril: it seems to work right. button 10 is scrolling right and button 11 is scrolling left |
| 01:44.35 | gnarface | Tril: now what? |
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| 01:46.37 | Tril | gnarface: dunno |
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| 01:51.13 | Free_Bullets | so can anyone tell me how to get the nvidia kernel module installed? i did dkms build and install, but modprobe still doesn't see a nvidia module. |
| 01:51.49 | Tril | Free_Bullets: try depmod -a. And search /lib/modules for the file: nvidia.ko |
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| 01:52.43 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys .... was wondering which is the WM/DE that can get you working with the least mouse clicks ? |
| 01:53.04 | Tril | ok I destroyed my extra, unnecessary GPT partition table so hopefully squeeze will install now |
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| 01:54.33 | Free_Bullets | Tril: /lib/modules/kernel version/updates/dkms/nvidia.ko |
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| 01:57.55 | Tril | Free_Bullets: I assume kernel version is actually a number. you tried insmod /path/to/nvidia.ko? |
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| 01:59.19 | Free_Bullets | Tril: error inserting ... invalid parameteres |
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| 02:02.04 | Tril | that's weird. |
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| 02:04.13 | Guest125 | Can someone help me with a problem? |
| 02:05.20 | gnarface | don't ask permission to ask Guest125, just ask. if someone knows the answer they might speak up. |
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| 02:06.43 | buhman | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/499824/ why doesn't eclipse want to run? |
| 02:07.14 | Free_Bullets | Tril: got everything working. thanks for the help. i learned a lot. |
| 02:07.53 | Guest125 | Everytime I try to extract the file tar xfvj charybdis-3.3.0.tbz2 it says no such file/command. |
| 02:08.01 | Guest125 | But the last time I did it it worked. |
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| 02:09.55 | Tril | Guest125: either "tar" or "bzip2" is missing from your path |
| 02:09.57 | cthuluh | Guest125: tar xjvf ... |
| 02:10.10 | Guest125 | hmm.. |
| 02:10.41 | Free_Bullets | or tar isn't installed |
| 02:10.59 | cthuluh | or you have gremlins |
| 02:11.01 | helen | tar is installed by default on Debian 6. |
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| 02:11.39 | helen | and so is bzip2 |
| 02:11.46 | helen | they're both installed by default. |
| 02:11.47 | helen | lol |
| 02:12.27 | cthuluh | not sure if bzip2 is installed after a minimal (aka netinstall) installation |
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| 02:12.54 | Guest125 | This is what it says |
| 02:13.06 | helen | cthuluh: Believe it or not i just gave Guest125 a VPS with tar and bzip2. |
| 02:13.24 | gusryfeld | It's very unlikely for tar not to be installed. bzip2 is not default for the minimal installation. |
| 02:13.28 | gnarface | Guest125: you need to put the 'f' last |
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| 02:13.50 | cthuluh | sounds like an echo... :) |
| 02:14.02 | gusryfeld | gzip is, though. I think... |
| 02:14.24 | helen | gzip is installed on my Debian VPSes. |
| 02:14.32 | helen | all of the, |
| 02:14.34 | helen | *them |
| 02:14.48 | cthuluh | helen: what should I do to obtain one of your VPS? O:-) |
| 02:14.58 | helen | cthuluh: You actually want one? |
| 02:15.18 | cthuluh | helen: actually.. no :) |
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| 02:15.25 | helen | k |
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| 02:16.40 | Guest125 | f last? |
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| 02:16.50 | Guest125 | So where do you want me to put the f last |
| 02:16.52 | Guest125 | after |
| 02:17.17 | cthuluh | as I wrote earlier: tar xjvf ... |
| 02:17.18 | Guest125 | tar xvjf charybdis-3.3.0.tbz2 |
| 02:17.28 | Guest125 | hmm |
| 02:19.03 | Guest125 | nope |
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| 02:19.36 | Guest125 | It's strange because when I do all of this on a working server it works |
| 02:19.38 | Guest125 | but |
| 02:20.10 | helen | Guest125: Pastebim it ls |
| 02:20.11 | Guest125 | when I do it on a blank one it dosent and says root@joey2:~# tar xvjf charybdis-3.3.0.tbz2 |
| 02:20.11 | Guest125 | tar (child): bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory |
| 02:20.11 | Guest125 | tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
| 02:20.11 | Guest125 | tar: Child returned status 2 |
| 02:20.11 | Guest125 | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
| 02:20.15 | helen | NO PASTEBIN |
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| 02:20.26 | Guest125 | pastebin? |
| 02:20.31 | Guest125 | ok |
| 02:20.38 | helen | Guest125: http://www.pastebin.com/ |
| 02:20.53 | cthuluh | c'mon, install bzip2 now |
| 02:21.33 | helen | Guest125: Aaah yes by the looks of it on error line 1 |
| 02:21.41 | helen | theres no bzip2 installed |
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| 02:21.46 | helen | I thought it had it installed |
| 02:22.18 | Guest125 | so |
| 02:22.27 | Guest125 | how do I install bzip2? |
| 02:22.28 | Guest125 | lol |
| 02:22.36 | ih8pizza | fwiw, i just clean installed squeeze from netinst yesterday and bzip2 isn't installed. sudo apt-get install bzip2 and it's non-issue. |
| 02:22.38 | helen | apt-get install bzip2 i think |
| 02:22.46 | helen | Guest125: ^^ |
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| 02:24.38 | Guest125 | Thanks |
| 02:24.46 | Guest125 | it's working. |
| 02:24.53 | helen | Guest125: You're welcome. :) |
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| 02:26.30 | Guest125 | ugh |
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| 02:26.32 | Guest125 | Hold on. |
| 02:26.37 | Guest125 | i have another problem. |
| 02:26.43 | helen | Guest125: I know |
| 02:26.43 | Guest125 | Ugh... |
| 02:26.46 | helen | Type the following |
| 02:26.49 | helen | apt-get update |
| 02:26.57 | helen | apt-get install flex bison libssl-dev gcc gdb make openssl |
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| 02:28.13 | Guest125 | k |
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| 02:29.01 | qubits | ok so debian-testing grub didn't work and now I just installed debian 6.0.3 amd 64 with encrypted lvm and it doesn't even boot! |
| 02:29.11 | qubits | What's wrong with this grub?? |
| 02:29.54 | qubits | can i even repair it with an encrypted drive?? |
| 02:30.07 | qubits | I've literally been trying to install debian for a week |
| 02:30.15 | helen | lol |
| 02:30.24 | qubits | Never had these issues before. |
| 02:31.07 | helen | qubits: Like.... same here. |
| 02:31.23 | helen | I normally have those issues with Windows. |
| 02:31.24 | k1ng__ | is all intel Z68 chipset are B3 stepping? |
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| 02:33.41 | mads- | Weird question. I mounted my USB drive with mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /target -o loop. When I checked with "mount" to see what's mounted, it says /dev/loop0 is mounted at /target. Is that how it should work? |
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| 02:34.36 | beardy | mads-: If you really wanted to mount it at a directory named "/target", yes. |
| 02:35.16 | mads- | It was the point. But the "-o loop" part - was I stupid to include that? |
| 02:35.38 | mads- | I mean, I have no big knowledge of how stuff works, I just remember something about using when mounting stuff |
| 02:35.40 | beardy | mads-: Why are you using the loop device to mount a USB stick? |
| 02:36.10 | Riviera | mads-: you probably should just omit that. |
| 02:36.13 | beardy | mads-: It's not necessary or desired when mounting a filesystem on a real device no. |
| 02:36.15 | ih8pizza | i've only ever used -o loop for images, not physical media. |
| 02:36.52 | beardy | mads-: It's used when mounting filesystems residing in files, as images. |
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| 02:37.06 | mads- | Yeah, that's what I have come to read about it. However, now I am halfway done putting data on it. Is this data damaged now then? |
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| 02:39.14 | mads- | Or will it be ok? I'm trying to figure out if I should stop the transfer and mount the USB drive without -o loop or it can be completed correctly as is |
| 02:39.37 | beardy | mads-: I don't know, can't say. Can't say if it really has mounted the device, over the loopback device.. you'll have to check, and next time read up on mounting it properly. |
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| 02:40.37 | mads- | I can read that data has been written to the device using df -h. And it tells me the correct size of the drive as well |
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| 02:41.14 | mads- | If it isn't wrong for sure, I will just try to let it finish. But it is a huge amount of data and will take some time. Thank you for your time though |
| 02:42.23 | beardy | mads-: It's probably ok then. |
| 02:42.51 | mads- | Sounds good :) And now off to bed. Thanks again |
| 02:43.05 | beardy | mads-: Just taking the way through the loopback device before it's written to the USB device. Ok, you're welcome. |
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| 02:48.14 | Guest125 | Hmm.. |
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| 02:57.48 | rmk | Hi all. How can I suppress any/all prompts from apt-get/dpkg installations? For example, if I've modified/created a config file, I'm receiving a prompt on how to handle it versus the maintainer's version, even with interactive mode set. |
| 02:57.52 | rmk | err, noninteractive mode. |
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| 03:02.31 | Guest125 | hi |
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| 03:08.13 | Guest125 | clear |
| 03:15.28 | cardamon | I've gota problem with a slow and sluggish USB mouse at times, usually when something else is doing a lot of work like graphics. |
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| 03:17.59 | cardamon | Like right now, I'm running a VM with Steam running and the mouse is just being god awful. |
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| 03:23.44 | Guest125 | Ok |
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| 03:24.18 | Guest125 | How do I change the file directory? |
| 03:24.27 | Guest125 | For example: cd ircd? |
| 03:25.01 | Guest125 | Because when I type that in it says no such file/command but, I'm trying to change the directory, so how do I do that? |
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| 03:26.02 | aruniiird | try "ls" command and see whether such a directory exists or not... |
| 03:28.08 | Guest125 | kk. |
| 03:29.11 | Guest125 | hmm |
| 03:29.22 | Guest125 | but I'm saying how do I change a directory?\ |
| 03:29.33 | Guest125 | Make a file then switch to that file? |
| 03:30.14 | erawfish_ | Guest125: what do you mean with "switch to that file"? |
| 03:30.23 | erawfish_ | is "that file" a directory? |
| 03:30.31 | cemiotic | Guest125: you cannot chande directory to a file |
| 03:31.29 | cemiotic | to make a directoty run mkdir <dir> |
| 03:31.39 | cemiotic | and then cd <dir> |
| 03:31.46 | Guest125 | hmm |
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| 03:35.08 | Jasonn | Dagger3: you still around? |
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| 03:39.33 | qubits | shutdown -h |
| 03:39.37 | qubits | shutd0wn h |
| 03:39.41 | qubits | shutdown -h |
| 03:39.46 | erawfish_ | qubits: wrong window |
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| 03:46.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps is there a way to query hosts from the cli w/o cat /etc/hosts? |
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| 03:47.50 | ih8pizza | grep somehostname /etc/hosts |
| 03:47.51 | pipalo | I am trying to patch my touchpad driver and it worked fine for 11.04 but for 11.10 I get http://mysticpaste.com/view/10459 |
| 03:47.54 | pipalo | any help ? |
| 03:48.57 | karlpinc | Eryn_1983_FL: getent hosts foo.example.com Or use the dig program (dns-utils) to query just the dns servers. If you want _just_ /etc/hosts, then no. |
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| 03:49.36 | karlpinc | Eryn_1983_FL: getent uses the resolver. dig uses just the dns system. |
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| 03:50.25 | pipalo | !help |
| 03:51.15 | ih8pizza | pipalo: debian isn't ubuntu. did you try the #ubuntu channel? |
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| 03:52.01 | pipalo | ih8pizza upe no help :( but the error seemse to be none ubuntu specific, it says something about debia |
| 03:52.07 | cardamon | Hmm. |
| 03:52.07 | pipalo | s/debia/debian |
| 03:52.23 | erawfish_ | pipalo: we cannot support ubuntu. please use #ubuntu |
| 03:52.34 | cardamon | Any idea why Gnome's not seeing the other monitor I just hooked up? |
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| 03:52.36 | i-me | hi |
| 03:52.51 | i-me | Does anyone can help me to install apxs on debian? |
| 03:52.52 | erawfish_ | cardamon: check your Xorg.0.log |
| 03:53.02 | erawfish_ | i-me: ask a specific question |
| 03:53.06 | pipalo | erawfish_ did you look at the error ? |
| 03:53.16 | i-me | erawfish_, give me a second, i'm gonna explain |
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| 03:53.52 | erawfish_ | pipalo: yes. and no matter which error you have: if you run ubuntu, you need to ask #ubuntu, not us. always, no exceptions. just like when you run debian you cannot ask #ubuntu. if you want distro agnostic help, go to #linux |
| 03:54.37 | i-me | So, I have a standar installation of apache2 running on my server, and I want to install suPHP, so I need APXS. I take a tour on the net and tried to install apache2-threaded-dev package and apache2-prefork-dev. |
| 03:54.53 | pipalo | erawfish_ it makes sense to not ask #debian question on #ubuntu, because #debian is not based on #ubuntu. but will. |
| 03:55.06 | erawfish_ | !based on debian |
| 03:55.07 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 03:55.25 | i-me | But event with these package, suPHP is still stopping on "APXS isn't on your server so mod_suphp won't be able to compile" |
| 03:55.51 | erawfish_ | i-me: more context needed. is this a configure script that brings the error? |
| 03:56.04 | i-me | What do you mean? |
| 03:56.18 | erawfish_ | pastebin your dpkg-buildpackage output please |
| 03:56.27 | i-me | It is the ./configure --prefix=/usr of suphp 0.7.1 |
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| 03:56.43 | erawfish_ | then check your configure logfile |
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| 03:57.27 | i-me | Wait wait wait, It is not a package of suPHP, but a source file |
| 03:57.37 | helen | My distro thinks it's Debian. |
| 03:57.39 | erawfish_ | please read my last line again |
| 03:57.45 | helen | But it's not. |
| 03:57.50 | i-me | Where is it? |
| 03:57.56 | i-me | sorry |
| 03:57.57 | erawfish_ | helen: dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 |
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| 03:58.07 | erawfish_ | i-me: in the same directory as your configure script |
| 03:58.13 | helen | It only thinks it's debian because i replaced all it's binaries with debian binaries. |
| 03:58.16 | Exhalted | HOORAY! I got my system up.. in rescue mode.. |
| 03:58.20 | helen | Sorry i just had to say that. |
| 03:58.24 | i-me | Yeah sorry, I didn't tough before asking |
| 03:58.30 | erawfish_ | helen: and which distro did you install? |
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| 03:58.34 | helen | I will switch back into idle mode now. |
| 03:58.39 | helen | erawfish_: I made it |
| 03:58.52 | Qubits | So, upon a basic inspection, it would appear my /boot partition contains no files.. |
| 03:59.04 | Qubits | Any idea how that happened? |
| 03:59.10 | i-me | I don't know how to understant the log file, i'm gonna pastebin it |
| 03:59.12 | Qubits | (post install of 6.0.3) |
| 03:59.27 | erawfish_ | Qubits: how would we know what you did? and do you have an actual on topic debian problem? |
| 03:59.44 | i-me | :qhttp://olivierbois.com/config.log |
| 04:00.00 | Qubits | Yes, so my problem is, I installed Debian and it did not boot. |
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| 04:00.20 | Qubits | checks the boot drive order >_> |
| 04:00.28 | Qubits | Is it okay that /boot is empty though? |
| 04:00.37 | erawfish_ | i-me: configure: exit 0 that suggests configure ran to the end without any errors |
| 04:00.42 | erawfish_ | Qubits: no |
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| 04:00.56 | i-me | But Look at the config.status part |
| 04:01.28 | Qubits | erawfish_: is there an easy way to build a boot partition? |
| 04:02.33 | erawfish_ | i-me: check configure:20336 ie configure line 20336 |
| 04:02.46 | i-me | U.U ? |
| 04:02.59 | i-me | The file? |
| 04:03.04 | erawfish_ | yes the file |
| 04:03.25 | erawfish_ | Qubits: is /boot mounted at /boot right now? |
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| 04:05.24 | erawfish_ | i-me: the idea is to see for what files or whatever the script looks for apxs and then provide that and rerun configure |
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| 04:06.02 | i-me | I'm about to go on line 2xxx |
| 04:06.15 | i-me | But vi don't want to take "goto" --' |
| 04:06.32 | erawfish_ | 2xxxx not 2xxx |
| 04:07.24 | helen | gnite |
| 04:08.58 | i-me | Aaaaah! Fine so |
| 04:09.10 | i-me | at line 20336 " echo "$as_me:$LINENO: checking for dynamic Apache module support (via APXS)" >&5 |
| 04:09.11 | i-me | " |
| 04:10.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | um how do I get to pick a diff source of packages? is there an auto picker or do i still got go find them on the wbe and put them in sources.list? |
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| 04:11.31 | i-me | erawfish_, I tried "Locate apxs" without results |
| 04:11.37 | erawfish_ | Eryn_1983_FL: you mean a debian mirror? |
| 04:11.47 | erawfish_ | i-me: I told you how to look. I didn't tell you to grep |
| 04:12.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | yes |
| 04:12.11 | erawfish_ | !tell Eryn_1983_FL about mirrors |
| 04:12.35 | erawfish_ | generally ftp.<country code>.debian.org is all you need |
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| 04:13.46 | erawfish_ | ,versions php5-suhosin |
| 04:13.47 | judd | Package: php5-suhosin on i386 -- lenny: 0.9.27-1; lenny-backports: 0.9.31-1~bpo50+1; sid: 0.9.32.1-1; squeeze: 0.9.32.1-1; wheezy: 0.9.32.1-1 |
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| 04:14.00 | erawfish_ | i-me: you have seen this package, righ? |
| 04:14.03 | erawfish_ | *right |
| 04:14.22 | sh|uNeX_ | hey guys. I'm on debain on a 8 node cluster upstairs and a 6 node down in the basment |
| 04:14.25 | sh|uNeX_ | WASSUUPP |
| 04:14.27 | i-me | Which one? |
| 04:14.39 | erawfish_ | i-me: look at what judd just wrote |
| 04:14.47 | i-me | Oh, it was for me |
| 04:15.25 | Qubits | erawfish_: yes /dev/sda1 was mounted as boot by rescue mode including all my other parts |
| 04:15.39 | sh|uNeX_ | oh, I'm also in a shell over SSH between the machines |
| 04:15.40 | i-me | It's already installed |
| 04:15.52 | erawfish_ | Qubits: it's not what I asked. is your boot partition mounted at /boot right now? |
| 04:16.17 | Qubits | yes |
| 04:16.20 | erawfish_ | sh|uNeX_: do you have a debian problem we can help you with? this channel is not for social chat but only for debian support |
| 04:16.28 | Qubits | its the bootable one |
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| 04:16.36 | erawfish_ | Qubits: then reinstall a kernel and grub and rerun grub-install |
| 04:17.11 | Qubits | I understand. Can you link me to some documentation that erawfish_? I'd love to know how to do this again in the future if ever needed |
| 04:17.43 | Qubits | I know how to reinstall grub. |
| 04:17.44 | erawfish_ | documentation how to install .deb packages? /msg dpkg fundamentals |
| 04:17.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got it thanks |
| 04:17.55 | erawfish_ | if you know, why do you ask? |
| 04:18.05 | Qubits | Oh, ok what would the pkg name for the kernel be? |
| 04:18.19 | Qubits | Cam I use aptitude? |
| 04:18.22 | erawfish_ | linux-image-2.6* depending on your hardware, debian version, etc |
| 04:18.24 | sh|uNeX_ | erawfish_: I'll join any channel I want for any reason |
| 04:18.32 | Qubits | It's the latest 6.0.3 |
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| 04:19.03 | erawfish_ | sh|uNeX_: yes you can, but you cannot use this channel as a social chat channel or the ops will ban you sooner or later. and then you cannot join this channel for any reason anymore |
| 04:19.17 | erawfish_ | Qubits: yes you can |
| 04:19.37 | sh|uNeX_ | correct. but do I care? no I do not, Sir. |
| 04:20.54 | free_bullets | My sound isn't working. |
| 04:21.08 | Qubits | ok so it reported all of the partitions being mounted but I actually had to mount them myself |
| 04:21.20 | sh|uNeX_ | if I get banned, I can use one of my 10k bots or just re-host a within a vps or vpn, proxy, or shell vhost. |
| 04:21.20 | erawfish_ | free_bullets: more context needed, but you can check /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 04:21.30 | sh|uNeX_ | SO I DONT CARE :D |
| 04:22.26 | Qubits | is there a .deb for the 3.0 kernel? |
| 04:22.46 | DanDare | Now, this is new for me. Tryign to access a box but it just close the connection right after I enter the user's password but I can log in normally using the root account. What's wrong there ? |
| 04:23.05 | erawfish_ | DanDare: /bin/false as shell? |
| 04:23.32 | DanDare | erawfish_, I didnt changed nothing so it's /bin/bash (I guess) |
| 04:23.37 | erawfish_ | Qubits: only in testing and unstable. not supported for your squeeze |
| 04:23.47 | DanDare | Anyway, its on .bashrc ? |
| 04:24.00 | erawfish_ | DanDare: don't guess, check |
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| 04:24.13 | DanDare | Where can I check this ? |
| 04:24.32 | erawfish_ | getent passwd <username> |
| 04:25.24 | DanDare | it says /bin/bash as last info in the output line |
| 04:25.41 | erawfish_ | could be many other things, like ssh not allowing this user, etc |
| 04:26.08 | DanDare | Ok, but it's weird because I didnt changed nothing for the user |
| 04:26.12 | DanDare | thanks anyway |
| 04:26.23 | erawfish_ | try to see if the logs mention anything |
| 04:26.37 | DanDare | Yeah, nice though |
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| 04:27.54 | DanDare | *thought |
| 04:28.18 | Amarande | that would be a strange security setup, though |
| 04:28.31 | Amarande | if a normal user was refused connection, but you can log in directly from remote as root? |
| 04:28.46 | Amarande | isn't it typical security policy to not allow remote logins as root as all, instead you must use a normal user first and su? |
| 04:28.53 | erawfish_ | nobody ever said it was a security setup |
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| 04:30.21 | Qubits | erawfish_: I want to update to unstable |
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| 04:30.35 | Qubits | I tried installing it but it would hang on grub |
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| 04:31.18 | erawfish_ | you don't want to "update" to unstable. and every supporter in here doesn't want you to do that either. especially the supporters in here |
| 04:31.32 | DanDare | Amarandem, yeah I know, just finishing setup on a nex box. I will block root (despite i can just sudo from another user) |
| 04:31.41 | Qubits | i meant current? |
| 04:31.50 | DanDare | Anyway, never seem before whats happening about blocking the normal user |
| 04:31.54 | erawfish_ | "current" is debian squeeze aka debian 6.0.3 |
| 04:32.02 | Qubits | okie doke |
| 04:32.13 | Qubits | testing? |
| 04:32.51 | Qubits | I had to kick Fedora to the core because the support base was shite |
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| 04:33.03 | Qubits | curb * >_> |
| 04:33.16 | Derpadong | core? |
| 04:33.22 | trifler | Curb |
| 04:33.26 | Derpadong | Lmao |
| 04:33.31 | Qubits | lol |
| 04:33.37 | Derpadong | Best mistake ever made in debian irc |
| 04:33.43 | Qubits | and it sucked |
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| 04:34.04 | Qubits | ok so it looks like my boot order is correct.. |
| 04:34.07 | Derpadong | I kicked Ubuntu, arch, gentoo, etc etc to the curb for Debian |
| 04:34.25 | Qubits | yeah screw arch and ubuntu, i've always loved debian |
| 04:34.41 | Qubits | It "Just Works" TM |
| 04:34.46 | erawfish_ | Qubits: testing and unstable are the development versions of debian with lots of bugs |
| 04:35.07 | Derpadong | 2 year release cycle go lol |
| 04:35.12 | Qubits | I wouldn't mind trying Testing. Anyone else here using it? It's just a spare box |
| 04:35.32 | Derpadong | Ive got testing on a different partition. |
| 04:35.34 | free_bullets | real men run on experimental |
| 04:35.54 | Derpadong | Im a real boy. Not no man |
| 04:35.56 | Qubits | is that another distro? |
| 04:36.09 | free_bullets | it's the one that's even more unstable than unstable |
| 04:36.11 | Derpadong | Is what a distro? |
| 04:36.27 | Qubits | So when my bios hits the bootsector of the debian hdd it soft resets |
| 04:36.35 | Qubits | depressed: experimental |
| 04:36.41 | Qubits | a revision of debian? |
| 04:36.51 | erawfish_ | Qubits: unstable is where the developers at least make an effort for it to work. with experimental, they don't even do that |
| 04:37.04 | erawfish_ | !experimental |
| 04:37.05 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
| 04:37.32 | Qubits | so you still recommend i try grub-install at this point? |
| 04:37.38 | Qubits | ill boot back into rescue mode |
| 04:37.51 | erawfish_ | I very much do. but only if you install stuff like I told you first |
| 04:37.59 | free_bullets | how can i figure out why my sound isn't working? |
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| 04:38.00 | DanDare | For my ssh login problem auth.log says: "debian sshd[4595]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 186.xx.xx.xx.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br [xx.xx.xx.xx] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!" |
| 04:38.08 | aypea[2] | is running testing on this laptop. so far it's been a boring experience. |
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| 04:38.14 | erawfish_ | fyi, grub-install is the only way you get a working grub bootloader |
| 04:38.16 | DanDare | and "debian sshd[4595]: Failed password for rod from 186.213.115.57 port 53700 ssh2" |
| 04:38.17 | phenom | Can any one help with a dmesg: [ 0.021114] Not enabling x2apic, Intr-remapping init failed. |
| 04:38.30 | rypervenche | Qubits: I use Testing. |
| 04:38.39 | erawfish_ | phenom: more context needed |
| 04:38.49 | phenom | ok |
| 04:38.54 | Qubits | rypervenche: how could i transition to Testing? |
| 04:39.00 | DanDare | But im sure im using the right password. Also when you type the wrong one ssh gives you another tries, not just drop the connection... any clue ? |
| 04:39.05 | phenom | I have three errors I'm trying to fix, one sec. |
| 04:39.15 | rypervenche | !tell phenom -about squeeze->wheezy |
| 04:39.28 | Qubits | I did tell debian installer to put grub on. |
| 04:39.42 | Qubits | !squeeze->wheezy |
| 04:39.47 | DanDare | It may be IP blacklisted or something? o.O |
| 04:40.15 | erawfish_ | Qubits: you should rather fix your current problem than switching to testing. and: testing is buggy and will break a lot of times in the near future. e.g. right now there are many gnome2/gnome3 breakages |
| 04:40.31 | Qubits | :\ |
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| 04:40.42 | Amarande | ick gnome3 |
| 04:40.42 | Qubits | You'll see me here regularly now that I'll have debian up |
| 04:40.57 | Qubits | I think gnome3 can be alright. |
| 04:41.03 | Amarande | am not too happy about the fact that the GNOME team has decided that choice of window manager is something that's holding back GNOME in the computing world |
| 04:41.04 | tamiya | hey guys, can I get some help with moving /home? |
| 04:41.12 | rypervenche | Qubits: Stuff will break from time to time. My Xorg isn't working properly because of my nvidia driver. However, I backported my xserver and it is working until they update the nvidia driver. I still prefer the newer programs. |
| 04:41.20 | Amarande | also, what are they *thinking* about the idea of a system where minimising windows no longer exists? :blink |
| 04:41.26 | erawfish_ | tamiya: ask your actual question |
| 04:41.31 | tamiya | i've maually backed up /home with: # tar cvf /Backups/home.tar /home |
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| 04:41.37 | Qubits | rypervenche: what did your backporting entail? |
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| 04:41.49 | tamiya | then I: #rm -rf /home; mkdir /home |
| 04:41.53 | Qubits | I've had issues with Fedora and my HDMI out |
| 04:42.00 | tamiya | Now I've got a new disk: /dev/sdb1 |
| 04:42.02 | phenom | erawfish_: http://pastebin.com/Z3hRV7Uh |
| 04:42.05 | tamiya | with ext4 fs on it |
| 04:42.08 | Derpadong | Amarande, thats where tiling windows comes in buddy |
| 04:42.09 | erawfish_ | !tell tamiya about enter |
| 04:42.09 | phenom | Contents of dmesg |
| 04:42.11 | rypervenche | Qubits: well it's a problem with nvidia drivers not being compatible with the new xorg. Anyways I used squeeze backports. |
| 04:42.52 | rypervenche | Qubits: If you do upgrade to Testing, I recommend getting apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs |
| 04:42.53 | tamiya | I can manually mount and automatically mount /dev/sdb1 to /home, but when I log in as an ordinary user it says it can't find /home/user1 |
| 04:43.41 | erawfish_ | tamiya: is /home/ currently mounted? if yes, what does ls /home/ show you? |
| 04:43.41 | tamiya | BTW, I've untar'ed home.tar to /home of course |
| 04:43.52 | tamiya | it shows the home directories |
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| 04:44.03 | TJNII | With the proper permissions? |
| 04:44.06 | rypervenche | Perhaps because you did not archive it? Does root own it? |
| 04:44.11 | tamiya | i can 'touch me' as the ordinary user |
| 04:44.15 | tamiya | the permissions are correct |
| 04:44.19 | DanDare | Allright this read was very instructive http://www.electrictoolbox.com/reverse-mapping-possible-break-in-ssh/ |
| 04:44.33 | TJNII | Nice choice of test file name. :) |
| 04:44.39 | Qubits | Thx. I'm still relatively intermediate with linux though I've been using it for years. |
| 04:44.42 | tamiya | :D |
| 04:44.44 | free_bullets | so can anyone tell me why my sound isn't working? i originally installed this os through a virtual machine, but i'm booting physically now. sound worked in the virtual machine. |
| 04:45.00 | free_bullets | i think |
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| 04:45.36 | Qubits | Wecome to Reality. |
| 04:45.37 | erawfish_ | free_bullets: cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 04:46.03 | Qubits | Rescue mode works great. |
| 04:46.04 | free_bullets | 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 23 |
| 04:46.06 | tamiya | any ideas? |
| 04:46.11 | robokop | if you wouldn't have the correct permissions then you should havve chosen 'this' as filename --- can't touch this |
| 04:46.36 | tamiya | ahha |
| 04:46.53 | Qubits | so is there a way to bring up my system completely in rescue mode? I tried init 5 but to no avail. |
| 04:47.06 | tamiya | ka ching! |
| 04:47.21 | Qubits | When I did startx it froze and I didn't have any spare gettys |
| 04:47.41 | free_bullets | erawfish_: i have a sigmatel integrated soundcard and a nvidia video card, which i just finished installing drivers for. is my sound output device supposed to be "nvidia"? |
| 04:47.43 | erawfish_ | Qubits: why do you need X for the things I told you to do? |
| 04:47.56 | Qubits | Just playing around.. |
| 04:48.14 | erawfish_ | free_bullets: what mainboard chipset do you have? |
| 04:48.34 | erawfish_ | and what new nvidia card is it? |
| 04:49.13 | tamiya | This is my /etc/fsta: /dev/sdb1 /home ext4 defaults 0 0 |
| 04:49.29 | tamiya | is that the correct entry to use? It appears to work |
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| 04:50.31 | erawfish_ | tamiya: fs_passno is not set up properly but that's a minor thing |
| 04:50.55 | phenom | Can any one help with a dmesg: [ 4.542793] mtrr: no more MTRRs available |
| 04:50.55 | phenom | [ 4.542796] [drm] MTRR allocation failed. Graphics performance may suffer. |
| 04:50.58 | tamiya | I don't know what is meant by 'defaults 0 0' |
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| 04:51.08 | phenom | Full dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/Z3hRV7Uh |
| 04:51.24 | phenom | What the hell is a MTRR heh |
| 04:51.39 | Qubits | How come most of the magic sysrq keys are disabled |
| 04:51.52 | erawfish_ | phenom: ask wikipedia, it knows. short answer:way to map in video memory to cpu address space. feature of CPUs |
| 04:52.01 | free_bullets | erawfish_: i'm not sure what chipset it is. it actually might be nForce 430. I know it uses SigmaTel HD Audio |
| 04:52.12 | phenom | erawfish_: Any ideas how to address it? |
| 04:52.20 | erawfish_ | free_bullets: lspci -nn |
| 04:52.31 | erawfish_ | phenom: which cpu do you have? |
| 04:52.58 | erawfish_ | phenom: and use a pastebin without captchas, cookies and other crap |
| 04:53.15 | phenom | Thinkpad x220:CPU: Dual core Intel Core i7-2620M (-HT-MCP-) cache 4096 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) |
| 04:53.23 | phenom | ahh ha |
| 04:53.25 | phenom | :P |
| 04:53.27 | phenom | sorry |
| 04:53.34 | erawfish_ | phenom: which debian kernel do you run? |
| 04:54.09 | phenom | 3.0.0-1-amd64 |
| 04:55.12 | Qubits | im running an amd phenom tricore in 4 core unlocked mode |
| 04:55.26 | phenom | Yea, sorry, didn't catch the captcha. |
| 04:55.39 | free_bullets | erawfish_: http://pastebin.com/RvW3sWyw |
| 04:55.58 | phenom | I remember it clean booting yesterday. |
| 04:56.19 | Qubits | So, erawfish_, it would appear my computer is still stuck in a reboot loop after a successful grub-install to /dev/sda. |
| 04:56.20 | erawfish_ | free_bullets: you use a nvidia sound HDA sound device, not a sigmatel one. maybe your DAC is from sigmatel |
| 04:56.43 | erawfish_ | Qubits: ls /boot;ls /boot/grub/ pastebin the output of that |
| 04:57.06 | Qubits | ok |
| 04:57.53 | erawfish_ | phenom: then check what changed since then on the machine. e.g. any bios settings you swtiched |
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| 04:58.23 | free_bullets | erawfish_: so how can i fix it? |
| 04:58.40 | phenom | no bios changes, only grub changes I've since reverted. |
| 04:58.42 | erawfish_ | free_bullets: what was the result of the tests from alsa checklist |
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| 04:58.54 | erawfish_ | phenom: what grub changes? |
| 05:00.03 | phenom | erawfish_: http://pastebin.com/NkbTK1br btw |
| 05:00.32 | phenom | I added params to the kernel lines in grub.cnf,, |
| 05:01.40 | phenom | :/ they have since deleted themselves.. |
| 05:01.58 | erawfish_ | phenom: do you think we are psychic? |
| 05:02.33 | erawfish_ | and next time, please read the first two lines of your grub,cfg before you edit it again |
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| 05:02.54 | erawfish_ | well, first 6 lines |
| 05:03.01 | phenom | I added pcie_aspm=force i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 i915.lvds_downclock=1 |
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| 05:03.40 | phenom | To increase battery life, as it was draining quick |
| 05:04.03 | phenom | As suggested in many admittedly, Arch, and Gentoo forums |
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| 05:04.35 | phenom | sorry erawfish_, I was gathering the info, on the fly* |
| 05:05.06 | phenom | It's been suggested here for example: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=126918 |
| 05:05.08 | Qubits | erawfish_: http://pastebin.com/CXr7wEq6 |
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| 05:06.07 | Qubits | I did it from the commandline so there is a captcha |
| 05:06.23 | erawfish_ | !tell Qubits about paste |
| 05:06.34 | phenom | And here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Gentoo_on_a_ThinkPad_X220,, guys in #grub also suggested the edit. |
| 05:07.05 | erawfish_ | phenom: the edit is not bad. the way you did it is. read the first lines of grub.cfg to understand what you need to do |
| 05:07.50 | Qubits | Which one do you recommend? I used pastebinit erawfish_ |
| 05:07.57 | erawfish_ | !paste |
| 05:07.57 | phenom | erawfish_: Using grub-mkconfig I imagine? |
| 05:07.58 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 05:08.24 | erawfish_ | phenom: no, that's a script |
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| 05:08.46 | phenom | /etc/default/grub |
| 05:08.48 | erawfish_ | yes |
| 05:09.12 | Qubits | http://paste.debian.net/140851 |
| 05:09.19 | phenom | I have grub2 though |
| 05:09.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | hi all. i'm trying to overlay a video stream and the contents of a web browser. atm i'm thinking i should get a web browser window recorded into $video_file so i can overlay it onto the second video stream. i'll need to support ~ 2 hours of playback time. has anyone got any suggestions on how to work on this issue? |
| 05:09.34 | erawfish_ | phenom: we know. only grub2 uses grub.cfg |
| 05:09.38 | free_bullets | erawfish_: I'm in the audio group. aplay command isn't installed. snd_hda_intel module is loaded. These packages weren't installed, but are now: alsa-base libsamplerate0 linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils libsamplerate0 linux-sound-base. alsa-info.sh output: http://pastebin.com/kuxTGVaZ |
| 05:09.50 | erawfish_ | !tell free_bullets about installit |
| 05:09.53 | phenom | erawfish_: Where would I input the lines? :) |
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| 05:10.03 | Kamping_Kaiser | the otehr option will be i pump it out the vga port and try and record it on another computer - not very appealing :/ |
| 05:10.09 | erawfish_ | phenom: in /etc/default/grub |
| 05:10.50 | phenom | Let me give it a shot, I have another idea also. I'll brb.. I appreciate your time. |
| 05:10.55 | erawfish_ | Kamping_Kaiser: aren't there X progams which can make another window (like a webbrowser) translucent? |
| 05:11.18 | Qubits | Let me know if you caught my latest link erawfish_ |
| 05:11.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | erawfish_: i don't know, are there? :) I"ll stick it in a search engine, thanks for the suggestion |
| 05:12.17 | erawfish_ | Qubits: what happens when you boot? |
| 05:12.26 | Qubits | nothing notable, just a reboot |
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| 05:12.58 | Qubits | basically just as if the system encounter a jmp ffff:0000 in the mbr |
| 05:13.08 | erawfish_ | and you installed grub via grub-install /dev/sda? and it's the only disk in there? |
| 05:13.09 | Qubits | encounters* |
| 05:13.26 | Qubits | there is a raid array and a usb drive but the disk is set to boot |
| 05:13.40 | Qubits | my disk is not in the raid array |
| 05:13.46 | erawfish_ | when you rescue boot, which device is your usb drive? |
| 05:14.05 | erawfish_ | Qubits: check /boot/grub/device.map for example |
| 05:14.25 | Qubits | sdd |
| 05:14.38 | erawfish_ | and your boot disk is sda? |
| 05:14.55 | Qubits | in the bios yes |
| 05:15.06 | erawfish_ | there is no "sda" in BIOS. |
| 05:15.18 | Qubits | its ths wdc200 |
| 05:15.29 | erawfish_ | please answer my question |
| 05:15.33 | Qubits | also hd0 is the only 200gb drive which is sda |
| 05:15.52 | Qubits | The boot order should be assumed correct. |
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| 05:16.33 | phenom | erawfish_: Yea, no effect unfortunately. Ran update-grub also* :/ |
| 05:16.52 | Qubits | what happened to you phenom ? |
| 05:17.16 | phenom | Qubits: I'm getting dmesg errors |
| 05:17.40 | phenom | http://pastebin.com/NkbTK1br |
| 05:17.49 | phenom | grep failed |
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| 05:18.34 | phenom | I can't recall if I noticed the errors before of after I started messing with grub.cfg |
| 05:19.17 | Qubits | how come there is no menu.lst in this Grub erawfish_ ? |
| 05:19.31 | erawfish_ | cause since grub2 there is no more menu.lst and only grub.cfg |
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| 05:19.50 | Qubits | oic |
| 05:21.12 | phenom | I wish there was a simple vmware-esque snapshot/revert tool.. |
| 05:21.37 | free_bullets | erawfish_: alsactl init fixed my problem |
| 05:21.56 | Qubits | erawfish_: my grub.cfg http://paste.debian.net/140855 |
| 05:22.29 | Qubits | i am using lvm encrypted individual partitions |
| 05:22.37 | erawfish_ | grub.cfg doesn't matter. you need to check stage1 of grub. what's written on the MBR |
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| 05:22.50 | erawfish_ | are all partitions encrypted, including /boot? |
| 05:23.08 | Qubits | you want i should bust out the hex editor or what? I don't know, I told debian to do it automatically for me |
| 05:23.15 | Qubits | You'd think it would know better |
| 05:23.51 | Qubits | sda1 is /boot and sda2 is the extended partion with sda5 which included everything else |
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| 05:26.54 | Qubits | How do you recommend I inspect the stage1 bootloader erawfish_ ? |
| 05:27.05 | Qubits | I understand assembly more than I do Debian |
| 05:28.07 | erawfish_ | first I'd make sure /boot is not encrypted. and stage 1 you can check by looking at the MBR with a hex editor |
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| 05:29.04 | Qubits | How do I tell if a partition is encrypted |
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| 05:30.45 | Qubits | boot is /dev/sda1 where /root is /dev/mapper/codex-root |
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| 05:32.16 | erawfish_ | file -s <device file> |
| 05:34.15 | Qubits | not a LUKS encrypted file |
| 05:34.44 | erawfish_ | what is it then? |
| 05:35.21 | Qubits | ext2 |
| 05:35.33 | phenom | well erawfish_, I can't find jack on the dmesg errors. I'm weighing ignoring them. |
| 05:36.09 | phenom | Closest I've come to them is: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=979623 |
| 05:36.21 | phenom | It lists 2 of the 3 errors I have. |
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| 05:53.39 | Qubits | erawfish_: /dev/sda contains a valid bootable code with grub |
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| 05:55.08 | Qubits | you want me to removed all other drives from my board? |
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| 05:59.17 | Qubits | no bootable devices, insert boot disk and press any key |
| 06:00.02 | erawfish_ | that seems you have a problem which is not grub or debian related then |
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| 06:02.47 | Qubits | erawfish_: I bet if I reinstalled unencrypted debian it would work fine |
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| 06:39.01 | somiaj | trying to find a way to check mem speed and if its dual channel or not. /proc/meminfo and dmesg didn't seem to contain that info. |
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| 06:44.30 | oldirty | lshw -c Memory |
| 06:45.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | lshw is cool |
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| 06:51.04 | somiaj | thanks, didn't say anything about dual channel, but its running at the right speed |
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| 06:53.05 | oldirty | if all else fails you could have lshw return the model number of your motherboard and then cross-reference that with a spec sheet online. |
| 06:54.35 | somiaj | yea, I have that and the dimms in the channels according to the bios, just courious if I could see that info |
| 06:54.51 | erawfish_ | somiaj: dmidecode should work for your purpose |
| 06:55.07 | somiaj | s/bios/manual/ |
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| 07:05.42 | Qubits | ok so debian wont boot |
| 07:05.54 | Qubits | i just tried an unencrypted installation |
| 07:06.07 | Qubits | i need some real support now |
| 07:06.41 | Qubits | I've tried it 4 times. 6.0.3 amd 64 |
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| 07:06.56 | erawfish_ | same everytime? direct reboot? |
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| 07:07.02 | Qubits | yes |
| 07:07.13 | erawfish_ | how did you install? usb stick? how made? |
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| 07:07.27 | Qubits | cd burned from nero disc at once downloaded via torrent |
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| 07:07.37 | boudiccas | what error messages do you get? what happens? |
| 07:07.51 | Qubits | on boot it just blanks then cycles immediately |
| 07:07.58 | Qubits | i tried removing all other drives |
| 07:08.14 | Qubits | it said no bootable device detected then |
| 07:08.15 | erawfish_ | at which controller is this boot disk attached? |
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| 07:08.37 | erawfish_ | that message means you BIOS doesn't recognize the disk as I told you before. not a grub or debian problem |
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| 07:08.51 | Qubits | from my observation of the same rebooting behavior when attempting to boot from my raid array, i believe it's passing the disc over for the raid array for boot |
| 07:09.10 | Qubits | sec ill look |
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| 07:12.15 | rami | Hello guys. I have a Thinkpad T400 with an integerated intel video card and an ATI card. When I run "lspci -v | grep VGA" only the Intel card is listed. Could the ATI card be blown out? |
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| 07:12.43 | boudiccas | 'blown out'? what do you mean? |
| 07:13.03 | Qubits | erawfish_: Looks like it's an IDE drive on the only ide controller there is |
| 07:13.14 | erawfish_ | rami: please go into your BIOS and enable the ati there |
| 07:13.23 | rami | boudiccas, I mean not working or damaged or something? |
| 07:13.36 | erawfish_ | Qubits: I long thought such a thing |
| 07:13.50 | rami | erawfish_, yes its enabled. The setting is on "discrete" |
| 07:14.02 | Qubits | Does this indicate anything to you? |
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| 07:14.22 | erawfish_ | rami: you will need a backport kernel and set whichever videocard you want to use in /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch or your T400 will get very very hot and a very low battery life |
| 07:14.48 | erawfish_ | rami: set it to the hybrid setting |
| 07:15.02 | erawfish_ | Qubits: yes. your boot order is fscked. fix it |
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| 07:15.14 | rami | erawfish_, backport kernel? As in build a custom kernel? |
| 07:15.22 | erawfish_ | !tell rami about backports |
| 07:15.49 | erawfish_ | rami: http://backports-master.debian.org/ |
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| 07:16.45 | rami | erawfish_, thanks I'll try that. You got a t400 by any chance? |
| 07:17.29 | erawfish_ | rami: a 2768 |
| 07:18.01 | Qubits | erawfish_: The device is at the top of my boot order and I even tried removing all the other drives or just selecting it manually |
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| 07:18.47 | erawfish_ | Qubits: that's nice but not a debian problem. with the above message of "no bootable device detected" is a BIOS problem which we cannot help with |
| 07:19.22 | Qubits | So when I install windows in this drive without a problem, I'll let you know |
| 07:19.33 | Qubits | or backtrack even |
| 07:19.48 | boudiccas | Qubits; whoopydoodah! |
| 07:19.53 | erawfish_ | even if you do, it's still not a debian problem. this error message is a BIOS message. no debian software runs at this point at all |
| 07:20.09 | rami | erawfish_, I am confused now, which package here? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/kernel/ |
| 07:20.27 | rami | erawfish_, the fglrx? |
| 07:20.29 | Qubits | That would be a debian boot problem if a windows mbr worked fine |
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| 07:20.46 | Qubits | That would imply the installers boot loader implementation procedure |
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| 07:20.51 | boudiccas | Qubits; bullshit! stop prevaricating! |
| 07:21.20 | Qubits | My logic is sound. |
| 07:21.40 | Qubits | Might be a problem with my hardware but that's still a debian incompatibility issue |
| 07:21.45 | erawfish_ | if the BIOS is too stupid to find a bootloader it's not the bootloaders fault. either you are unable to put the bootloader into the proper sector or your BIOS is buggy |
| 07:21.49 | erawfish_ | your logic is utter crap |
| 07:22.20 | erawfish_ | no it's NOT a debian issue. if you can give us an error message from any debian software, THEN it's a debian problem. |
| 07:22.39 | Qubits | the bios looks in sector 1 of the drive and reads the first 512 bytes for a valid signature of two bytes at the end of the boot loader then begins execution at byte 1, it's not rocket science |
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| 07:22.52 | hanibana | hi... I have a pid. how can I check if its process is running with a reliable way? |
| 07:23.08 | nrdb | I trying to setup two dm_crypt partitions atm... I successfully setup one (sdc2) but when I try to do the second (sdd2) I get an error from cryptsetup "device-mapper: reload ioctl failed: Invalid argument" ... :-( ... any ideas why? |
| 07:23.16 | erawfish_ | yes. and if it doesn't find this, then it shows you your error message. at this point, NO debian software at all is in memory which means no debian software can be at fault |
| 07:23.17 | boudiccas | Qubits; stop wasting our time |
| 07:23.33 | Qubits | If it didn't find it then debian didn't install it properly |
| 07:23.38 | erawfish_ | I told you to check your MBR if grub is in there. you didn't do it. what else are we supposed to do as #debian? |
| 07:23.47 | Qubits | I just told you I checked it |
| 07:23.52 | Qubits | Grub is there |
| 07:23.54 | erawfish_ | and what's on there? |
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| 07:24.02 | Qubits | with a valid jump table |
| 07:24.16 | erawfish_ | if grub is there, then debian installed properly but the BIOS can still not find it. you just proved it's not a debian problem. |
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| 07:24.33 | erawfish_ | how did you ascertain that it is grub which is there? |
| 07:24.39 | Qubits | hardly, its executing a reboot which would mean that the debian installed bootloader is buggy |
| 07:24.45 | Qubits | don't you know how a bootloader works? |
| 07:24.54 | Qubits | By the GRUB is loading ascii string in the first sector |
| 07:25.26 | erawfish_ | I know it. but if you remove all other disks but the one debian is on and then suddenly it doesn't reboot but shows you an error message it proves it's not running the debian bootloader |
| 07:25.53 | erawfish_ | cause when it only can run said bootloader and nothing else it doesn't reboot any more. there might be a lot of other shit on your other (RAID) disks |
| 07:26.05 | Qubits | let me try again here without the other drives, i must be missing something |
| 07:26.19 | boudiccas | Qubits; a functioning brain |
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| 07:26.29 | Qubits | ignored |
| 07:26.36 | erawfish_ | boudiccas: can you stop you attacks for the last few days now? |
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| 07:27.14 | erawfish_ | if you are unable to function in polite society I suggest you go into a retreat. either religious or a psychiatric ward, depending on your faith or lack thereof |
| 07:27.43 | Qubits | Actually it just power cycles still |
| 07:28.00 | sickgut | dev zero your mbr |
| 07:28.04 | erawfish_ | then how did you manage to make it show above error message? |
| 07:28.16 | Qubits | i dont know what happened that time |
| 07:28.36 | Qubits | ill do that sickgut |
| 07:28.43 | erawfish_ | yes, sickguts suggestion is a good one: that forces your BIOS to show you the message. but make a backup of your MBR first. don't just zero it |
| 07:29.11 | sickgut | llike debian grub etc is fairly fool proof if you install to mbr |
| 07:29.18 | Qubits | cant i reinitialize the disk with fdisk? |
| 07:29.20 | sickgut | if just partition then forget it |
| 07:29.24 | erawfish_ | what mobo is this Qubits? |
| 07:29.32 | erawfish_ | no you cannot use fdisk for this |
| 07:29.45 | Qubits | i mean to fix the mbr from nothing |
| 07:29.49 | nrdb | I trying to setup two dm_crypt partitions atm... I successfully setup one (sdc2) but when I try to do the second (sdd2) I get an error from cryptsetup "device-mapper: reload ioctl failed: Invalid argument" ... :-( ... any ideas why? |
| 07:29.55 | sickgut | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.59 | sickgut | then it works |
| 07:30.18 | sickgut | after reinstall of os and bootloader/ grub ofc tho |
| 07:30.26 | erawfish_ | no you cannot. zeroing it deletes the partition table. fdisk also doesn't install a grub bootloader but a generic one (if the linux fdisk even does it. probably the mbr package does9 |
| 07:30.27 | Qubits | id thought about it |
| 07:30.36 | sickgut | but always having to zero out that mbr to get it to work for some reason |
| 07:30.51 | Qubits | i thought the entire mbr was rewritten though and the partition table during install |
| 07:31.02 | erawfish_ | another thing to debug grub is to install a "default" mbr via the mbr package to it and do a grub-install to /dev/sda. but you must make sure then that sda1 has the boot flag set |
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| 07:31.15 | Qubits | right |
| 07:31.26 | sickgut | grub-install /dev/sda |
| 07:31.34 | Qubits | ok oddly now it just says |
| 07:31.41 | Qubits | GRUB-loading. |
| 07:31.42 | erawfish_ | sickgut: no. for my suggestion grub-install /dev/sda1 |
| 07:31.51 | erawfish_ | Qubits: what did you do EXACTLY? |
| 07:31.53 | sickgut | aah cool |
| 07:31.54 | Qubits | This is what happened when I tried to install Testing |
| 07:31.59 | sickgut | lol i just do both |
| 07:32.06 | Qubits | it cycled a few times without any other drive |
| 07:32.12 | sickgut | i do the dev sda then sda1 lol |
| 07:32.24 | erawfish_ | Qubits: please answer my question. |
| 07:32.30 | sickgut | one gotta work |
| 07:32.34 | Qubits | Begin from which point? |
| 07:32.40 | patterson | I wonder how the Qantas people get home |
| 07:32.41 | erawfish_ | sickgut: what you do is nonsensical |
| 07:32.51 | sickgut | naaar.... oh well |
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| 07:33.18 | erawfish_ | sickgut: when you install grub to sda, sda1 can never ever be used (unless you chainload in grub) |
| 07:33.41 | Qubits | ok so im going to go mess with this a bit more and let this movie play for my woman on the screen here |
| 07:33.54 | erawfish_ | Qubits: when you get a "grub loading" it means stage 1 is loaded but further stages can't be found |
| 07:34.10 | Qubits | so dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1024 maybe? |
| 07:34.25 | Qubits | odd isnt it erawfish_ ? |
| 07:34.33 | Qubits | what would you recommend then |
| 07:34.43 | erawfish_ | Qubits: then you will need to reinstall your debian. I wouldn't do it. it will overwrite your debian data. which is bad |
| 07:35.01 | Qubits | ive tried quite a few times though |
| 07:35.12 | erawfish_ | install debian with only this disk present |
| 07:35.18 | Qubits | ok |
| 07:35.24 | sickgut | you got data on there you need to keep? |
| 07:35.40 | erawfish_ | Qubits: what do you want to put on your RAID? |
| 07:35.53 | erawfish_ | cause a 200GB is plenty for a system partition. overkill even |
| 07:35.55 | Qubits | it has all my music and data, its 2x500gb as raid1 |
| 07:35.58 | sickgut | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.19 | Qubits | its the last remaining backup of it really |
| 07:36.20 | sickgut | raid too complicated to comprehend |
| 07:36.28 | Qubits | raid sux yeah |
| 07:36.39 | erawfish_ | sickgut: raid is only data here. debian doesn't use raid for itself |
| 07:36.55 | Qubits | say i wanted to install backtrack and update my system to the latest debian, how would i go about that? |
| 07:37.28 | erawfish_ | you can't |
| 07:37.37 | Qubits | its debian i thought |
| 07:37.43 | erawfish_ | !based on debian |
| 07:37.44 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 07:38.13 | Qubits | thats why i ran fedora, because it was qubes-os's base |
| 07:38.19 | erawfish_ | only the distro named "debian" is debian. all others are different. if they weren't different, why need to rename them? |
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| 07:38.50 | sickgut | backtrack actu ally a mix between ubutu and de bian apar ently |
| 07:38.55 | Qubits | it just comes with alot of useful stuff installed |
| 07:39.04 | Qubits | right |
| 07:40.03 | erawfish_ | not really. especially since it doesn't work. BT5 is of very very poor quality |
| 07:40.12 | sickgut | you gotta wonder what goes on in the mind of a company like canonical that bases a distro on debian but it ends up slower and less stable. that is not an improvement. |
| 07:40.44 | erawfish_ | user friendliness always makes a software more complex and slower. nature of the beast |
| 07:41.32 | sickgut | to be more friendly to the user, dont make the user shell out $2000 for a new computer to run your bloated OS |
| 07:41.54 | p_quarles | user friendliness always seems to be more of an eventual goal than a present reality for Ubuntu |
| 07:42.30 | Dulak | sickgut: ubuntu jumped the shark after 10.04, they were on the right track for a while then, splat. |
| 07:42.32 | sickgut | qubits once you get something booting, back up the drive with a dd command, then you can just dd it back when you wanna reformat |
| 07:43.45 | sickgut | yeah like 9.04 was fine, used 150mb ram at the desktop or so, lucid used 384mb just to boot to the desktop, was too slow on my 512mb ram |
| 07:43.59 | sickgut | it like got stupid and bloated overnight |
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| 07:45.41 | sickgut | lucid had major probs with intel video as well |
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| 07:46.25 | p_quarles | Ubuntu may be bloated, but memory usage is not a measure of that; I wish people would abandon that thinking, because it belies a misunderstanding of how memory works |
| 07:46.39 | sickgut | at the time the netbook remix was released for lucid and it didnt support intel video..... well.... since every netbook at the time had intel video...... and it was a netbook os..... errr...... |
| 07:47.06 | sickgut | it was bad because it went to swap as soon as i click on the menu |
| 07:47.10 | erawfish_ | folks: please discuss the (many) shortcomings of ubuntu in a ubuntu channel :) |
| 07:47.11 | sickgut | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:48.10 | sickgut | i could have spent the $20 and got another 1gb of ram.... |
| 07:48.34 | ompaul | install debian squeeze on them and be happier |
| 07:48.55 | sickgut | did / have / running now / way better / never looked back |
| 07:49.01 | sickgut | actually it was lenny at the ti me |
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| 07:49.32 | IamTrying | Why compared to Fedora/CentOS developers Ubuntu developers are so Junior? Every time they instruct, starts instruction with confusion and miss instructions. |
| 07:49.56 | boudiccas | OT |
| 07:49.57 | ompaul | IamTrying: you are trying my patience with a lovely OFFTOPIC question |
| 07:50.27 | IamTrying | I was trying to remove OS desktop while installation and that seems like nobody in the world did it before. |
| 07:50.40 | sickgut | debian full desktop ISO was totally broken etc i tried the gnome and kde and xfce i couldnt get into it...... then i tried the debian standard iso and installed xorg and jwm and roxfiler like puppy linux has then it all kinda worked |
| 07:50.41 | ompaul | IamTrying: you are still off topic |
| 07:51.00 | IamTrying | ompaul, do we have off topic channel plz? |
| 07:51.12 | boudiccas | #debain-offtopic |
| 07:51.12 | ompaul | #defocus for your kind of stuff |
| 07:51.15 | IamTrying | thanks |
| 07:51.24 | sickgut | debian real good if you start with the base then apt-get what you want but the predone full desktop with gnome etc is ycuk |
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| 07:52.32 | oldirty | for the love of god, seriously? |
| 07:52.38 | sickgut | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:52.48 | sickgut | like you had to guess what was installed |
| 07:52.54 | oldirty | this is why i don't get admin. the both of them would have been kickbanned an hour ago. |
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| 07:53.09 | AciD_ | hi |
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| 07:53.31 | ompaul | oldirty: you may at your choosing use !ops |
| 07:53.47 | sickgut | !ops |
| 07:53.47 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
| 07:54.02 | oldirty | ompaul: i successfully ran myself out of #httpd, #awk and somewhere else last night because i was raging so bad. |
| 07:54.14 | sickgut | hehe |
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| 07:54.24 | oldirty | ompaul: i definitely do not need to be an op in this channel |
| 07:54.26 | sickgut | is there #lighttpd? |
| 07:54.36 | oldirty | thank you, though :) |
| 07:54.48 | ompaul | oldirty: well raging does not work and I'll entertain someone in #debian-offtopic for a bit |
| 07:54.48 | sickgut | omg there is |
| 07:56.19 | meta-coder | I am planning to switch from Ubuntu 11.10 to Debian. Which version of Debian should I install? Debian 6.0.3 or the beta version? Is 6.0.3 too old? |
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| 07:56.48 | boudiccas | meta-coder; too old for what? |
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| 07:57.38 | meta-coder | boudiccas, old as compared to the packages that are available in Ubuntu Oneiric repositories.. |
| 07:57.41 | oldirty | meta-coder: as an ubuntu user, debian is probably not going to suit your tastes for a desktop OS. |
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| 07:58.00 | oldirty | meta-coder: why are you migrating away from Ubuntu, first of all? |
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| 07:58.47 | peterrooney | meta-coder: if you have to ask, use stable - i'm of the opiniion that "working" should trump "new" |
| 07:58.50 | ompaul | meta-coder: pick up 6.0.3 work out what you want installed - NO - it is not done exactly the same way, ask the bot etc |
| 07:59.11 | meta-coder | oldirty, I dont like Unity, installing the meta-packages of other desktop envrionments screwed it.. I wan a more complete experience right out of the box.. |
| 07:59.20 | Bushmills | especially if "new" bears some relationship to "migrating away" :) |
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| 08:00.27 | ompaul | meta-coder: to stay where you are try apt-get remove --purge unity-desktop (that is a guess but fits an older convention) it might make you happy |
| 08:01.05 | erawfish_ | ompaul: it won't. and stop ubuntu support! |
| 08:01.07 | peterrooney | ompaul: /msg dpkg based on debian |
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| 08:01.25 | boudiccas | !ubuntu |
| 08:01.26 | meta-coder | ompaul, i think it is not unity-desktop but it is called ubuntu-desktop right? |
| 08:01.26 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 08:01.49 | peterrooney | meta-coder: applying debian techniques to ubuntu systems is likely to break things |
| 08:02.33 | meta-coder | i want to know why you people are not recommending Debian? In what way is Debian so different from Ubuntu? |
| 08:02.47 | peterrooney | meta-coder: I recommend debian. |
| 08:02.55 | meta-coder | ok |
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| 08:03.24 | ompaul | meta-coder: you have been told start with 6.0.3 and why aren't you downloading already |
| 08:03.25 | peterrooney | meta-coder: ubuntu is based upon the branch of debian that debian itself states is untested |
| 08:03.44 | Dulak | It's the difference between a model in a box and a model that is already done, even if it was your 6 year old kid and it's sloppy as hell, it's not pieces, but a complete whole. |
| 08:03.49 | AciD_ | I finally resolved the r8169 problem (which wasn't one in fact) : I compiled my own 3.1 kernel...just to realise that I changed /etc/network/interfaces 5 years ago and that would cause eth0 not to be automatically configured :o |
| 08:04.15 | meta-coder | ok. ompaul i am starting the download now.. |
| 08:04.28 | ompaul | AciD_: that is special, and I know that feeling |
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| 08:04.50 | meta-coder | will debian support my ADSL router that connect via USB? |
| 08:05.04 | peterrooney | meta-coder: /msg dpkg hcl |
| 08:05.08 | boudiccas | meta-coder; how long is a piece of string? |
| 08:05.30 | peterrooney | meta-coder: also, /msg dpkg help listkeys |
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| 08:05.45 | meta-coder | boudiccas, i didn't get it. piece of string..?? |
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| 08:06.22 | boudiccas | meta-coder; its an unanswerable question, just like yours was |
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| 08:06.40 | erawfish_ | meta-coder: we don't recommend it cause we don't have to sell anything. we know debian is good for us. but ubuntu has a another user profile, and all the people now disappointed due to unity will probably be disappointed with debian too. either cause it isn't as user friendly for them, or cause they have !snsn or cause when wheezy hits there won't be any gnome2 anymore either but gnome3. but if these migrants like gnome3 |
| 08:07.15 | erawfish_ | meta-coder: if ubuntu supported it, so can debian. how hard it is to make it work we cannot tell |
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| 08:07.45 | meta-coder | erawfish_, !snsn ? |
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| 08:08.01 | erawfish_ | !sns |
| 08:08.02 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 08:08.02 | ompaul | !snsn |
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| 08:08.58 | erawfish_ | !thwap ompaul |
| 08:08.59 | dpkg | dons the nun outfit and beats ompaul over the knuckles with a ruler |
| 08:09.00 | ompaul | meta-coder: and leads to boxes people can't fix and then they cry, my free tech support let me down *!$%^ |
| 08:09.08 | AciD_ | anyway, now I have that last problem : I have a usb keyboard and mouse. They both work well under tty, but as soon as gdm/gdm3 or kdm is launched, I can only use the mouse, the keyboard isn't tying anything (except that it does stop the cursor from blinking for a few seconds each time i press a key). My wild guess would be it's due to my old sarge configuration burden. Just to be sure, I deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf. still the same effect |
| 08:09.08 | AciD_ | . /var/log/Xorg.0/log doesn't seem to output any error about that either.. |
| 08:09.13 | meta-coder | Gnome3 is fine |
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| 08:09.57 | ompaul | meta-coder: and you will get gnome2 with stable |
| 08:10.16 | meta-coder | it is fine too. only thing i dont like is Unity... |
| 08:10.25 | sickgut | i dont know why the whole world doesnt use jwm |
| 08:10.59 | dname | Hi. Could give the command to restore FS to / dev/sda1? The system can not start |
| 08:11.16 | erawfish_ | dname: do you have a backup of your filesystem? |
| 08:11.30 | meta-coder | So, approximately how many packages are available for Debian 6.0.3? |
| 08:11.37 | dname | erawfish_: do not know |
| 08:11.53 | ompaul | meta-coder: ~30k |
| 08:11.53 | erawfish_ | meta-coder: I think it's around 30000 last I chcked |
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| 08:12.15 | dname | Yesterday was accidental restarts the computer. The system has ceased to run |
| 08:12.19 | erawfish_ | dname: explain your problem better, cause with what you told us we cannot help you |
| 08:12.23 | AciD_ | wt* : using dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 and set it to the default login manager does make it work well, although if I reboot my pc, the usb keyboard isn't supported :/ |
| 08:12.24 | meta-coder | wow, great... now no looking back to Ubuntu.. |
| 08:12.50 | sickgut | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:12.51 | ompaul | dname: sounds like yo uhave a hardware failure there tbh |
| 08:12.55 | sickgut | lol sry joking |
| 08:13.08 | sickgut | ill go before i get banned |
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| 08:13.23 | ompaul | don't talk about, there is no talk, just do it |
| 08:13.37 | somiaj | sickgut: debootstrap debian onto your system. Come back. |
| 08:13.52 | ompaul | somiaj: you mean dname |
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| 08:14.14 | erawfish_ | dname: do you get the grub boot menu? |
| 08:14.51 | ompaul | dname: go get yourself a live cd stick it in the box and see what happens if it falls over it is a hardware issue - most likely ram in my experience, second problem is power supplies and motherboards |
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| 08:16.50 | dname | sorry |
| 08:17.24 | dname | erawfish_: yes get |
| 08:18.17 | dname | I'm trying to open / dev/sda1 with the livecd, but it takes me an error. |
| 08:18.27 | dname | Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error in some cases userful info is found |
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| 08:19.15 | peterrooney | meta-coder: apt-cache show [tab][tab] says "Display all 29432 possibilities? (y or n)" ; apt-cache show lib[tab][tab] says "Display all 11487 possibilities? (y or n)", so I'd say nearly 18,000 software packages available in stable. |
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| 08:20.14 | erawfish_ | dname: fdisk -s /dev/sda1 |
| 08:20.29 | erawfish_ | dname: sorry, that should have been "file -s /dev/sda1" |
| 08:21.27 | dname | fdisk -s /dev/sda1: 152742912 |
| 08:21.52 | erawfish_ | as I said: "file", not fdisk |
| 08:23.15 | dname | file -s /dev/sda1: /dev/sda1: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, UUID=e3839229-3eb7-49e8-89a4-202aa873e4f2 (needs journal recovery) (large files) |
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| 08:23.39 | erawfish_ | fsck your /dev/sda1, then you should be able to boot again |
| 08:23.48 | meta-coder | how stable and secure is Debian? |
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| 08:24.17 | boudiccas | meta-coder; what debian? there are several differetn versions |
| 08:24.31 | meta-coder | boudiccas, 6.0.3 |
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| 08:24.57 | dname | could not show an example fsck on /dev/sda1 |
| 08:24.59 | boudiccas | meta-coder; very stable and secure, in my expereince |
| 08:25.00 | oldirty | it's terrible. imagine booting up into the middle of an afghani cave full of renegade insurgents. wearing an uncle sam outfit. |
| 08:25.09 | oldirty | meta-coder: that's what running debian is like. |
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| 08:25.43 | oldirty | dname: really? like "fsck /dev/sda1" ? |
| 08:25.53 | oldirty | dname: how easy does it need to be? |
| 08:27.31 | dname | /dev/sda1: clean, 11/9551872 files, 647506/38185728 blocks |
| 08:27.53 | oldirty | dname: Ctrl+Alt+Print Scrn+ B |
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| 08:28.41 | peterrooney | meta-coder: there's the occasional security bulletin. the debian-security-announce mailing list averages less than one per day, with said 29000 packages. |
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| 08:29.28 | dname | Provide a screenshot I can not. I'm on another computer, and then no internet. After these inputs commands the system should start? |
| 08:29.30 | meta-coder | peterrooney, thats very stable! |
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| 08:30.19 | erawfish_ | dname: should, yes. if you still get troubles, you need to give us more input. e.g where it stops, what's the last thing on screen, etc |
| 08:30.19 | peterrooney | not sure that's a measure of stability |
| 08:30.34 | meta-coder | peterrooney, i mean security.. |
| 08:30.36 | erawfish_ | I'm not sure what this "stability" is you people talk about |
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| 08:33.31 | dname | Welcome to GRUB! error: file not found. Entering rescue mode... |
| 08:33.31 | dname | help |
| 08:34.40 | erawfish_ | !fixgrub |
| 08:34.42 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 08:34.52 | erawfish_ | dname: before, you said you get to the grub menu |
| 08:35.18 | dname | Yes, received. But after entering these commands, the menu disappeared. |
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| 08:36.17 | peterrooney | "simply" -- you keep using that word. |
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| 08:36.45 | erawfish_ | peterrooney: who does? |
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| 08:38.50 | omeringen | 3 hours remaining, that's why i hate netinstall |
| 08:39.21 | boudiccas | omeringen; so why do it? |
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| 08:39.39 | omeringen | long story :P |
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| 08:42.44 | meta-coder | Can Debian share the swap partition with RHEL 6? |
| 08:43.00 | boudiccas | meta-coder; doubtful |
| 08:44.19 | dname | mount / dev/sda1 to / MONT and there is only one directory Lost+found |
| 08:44.35 | dname | I understand all retired? |
| 08:44.58 | qrq | omeringen Live DVD would be better :) |
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| 08:51.17 | valdyn | meta-coder: sure it can |
| 08:51.19 | qrq | What is free application to uncompress rar files? :D |
| 08:51.25 | qrq | unrar-free doesn't work good |
| 08:51.32 | valdyn | meta-coder: just dont run both at the same time |
| 08:51.42 | meta-coder | valdyn, ok |
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| 08:54.01 | boudiccas | wouldnt sharing a swap partition between RHEL and debain 6.0.3 invalidate RHEL licence? |
| 08:54.15 | valdyn | boudiccas: haha |
| 08:55.01 | valdyn | boudiccas: rhel does not really need a license to run |
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| 08:55.29 | Dulak | boudiccas: you pay RHEL for support, not to run the OS |
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| 08:56.19 | oldirty | dname: what does "lvm vgchange -aly" return? |
| 08:56.35 | boudiccas | Dulak; but once RHEL know that you're sharing the swap aprtition with another OS they'll pull the plug on your support |
| 08:56.48 | valdyn | boudiccas: nonsense |
| 08:56.54 | valdyn | boudiccas: you're just making that up |
| 08:56.57 | Dulak | boudiccas: I doubt that |
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| 08:58.15 | Dulak | boudiccas: you pay for support, they support what they can, and the rest they will try to contract you for, if you let them. 'oh we can get an engineer to fix this for you at $150/hour, ok?' |
| 08:58.51 | Dulak | boudiccas: they would not be a billion dollar company if they did things the way you seem to think. |
| 08:59.06 | dname | No output |
| 08:59.08 | dname | oldirty: |
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| 08:59.52 | oldirty | dname: how about lvm vgdisplay? |
| 09:00.06 | valdyn | oldirty: why are you prepending the comands with "lvm" ? |
| 09:00.36 | dname | oldirty: just does not output anything |
| 09:00.45 | valdyn | ah, both works |
| 09:00.52 | oldirty | valdyn: force of habit, technically. on the off chance that his rescue environment doesn't have wrappers for the lvm commands like ours. |
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| 09:01.20 | oldirty | dname: it sounds like you've ruined your filesystem. I hope you have a good backup. |
| 09:02.12 | dname | And no way to restore the FS? |
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| 09:03.20 | oldirty | hi. |
| 09:03.23 | oldirty | nope. |
| 09:03.24 | oldirty | thanks, |
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| 09:03.44 | veGlow | Morning :) |
| 09:03.46 | veGlow | Anyone on board with experience with Debian Squeeze on Xen HVM? Having a few problems and could really use a hand :(. |
| 09:03.58 | boudiccas | !ask |
| 09:03.58 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 09:04.24 | oldirty | I asked you to perform the "lvm" commands on the off chance that you fsck'd a logical volume's physical counterpart |
| 09:04.30 | oldirty | that does not appear to be the case. |
| 09:04.42 | oldirty | i would restore from backups and try to avoid similar problems in the future. |
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| 09:05.11 | veGlow | Sorry, My problem is, When i run Xen HVM with a Debian Squeeze DomU i am getting no network within the VM, It's working fine upto the point of gaining the DHCP Address, It works fine with CentOS, Windows, Ubuntu etc just not debian. |
| 09:05.17 | veGlow | Oh, Lenny works fine also. |
| 09:05.19 | chowder | hello all. I just recently upgraded some packages. I actually installed the nvidia graphics driver for my NVidia Geforce 310m and now I can't start X. |
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| 09:07.57 | veGlow | Anyone? |
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| 09:08.51 | chowder | When I boot up it just hangs on tty7. I try doing a "startxfce4" from console and I get errors. Another error: Fatal server errors: no screens found |
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| 09:09.42 | veGlow | I'm getting this on the host-node if its of any help? |
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| 09:09.59 | dname | Is it possible to re-install Debian on top of the 6? without loss of data |
| 09:10.40 | oldirty | dname: short answer is no. you may get lucky depending on how your hard drive was partitioned. |
| 09:12.10 | dname | oldirty: All were standard. Select the item "for a beginner" to use the entire disk |
| 09:12.46 | boudiccas | dname; backup first |
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| 09:13.19 | dname | from where can I get a backup copy of your FS? |
| 09:13.37 | boudiccas | dname; at least back up your home directory |
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| 09:14.29 | dname | I open it? He did not mount |
| 09:14.42 | meta-coder | What is the difference between cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/ and http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ ? |
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| 09:17.25 | simonlnu | !tell veGlow -about paste |
| 09:17.38 | veGlow | Sorry? |
| 09:17.49 | simonlnu | don't paste in here |
| 09:17.59 | simonlnu | read what the bot told you, ty |
| 09:18.00 | veGlow | Apologies, just tryin to get some help :( |
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| 09:20.56 | meta-coder | The complete 8 DVDs set has *all* the packages available in the repositories??? |
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| 09:21.40 | chowder | meta-coder: you can just use the netinst image and download what you want. The DVDs are more for people with very slow connections or no connection at all. |
| 09:22.19 | meta-coder | the first DVD should install a workable setup right? |
| 09:23.05 | chowder | meta-coder: I believe you can also order a CD pack and some of the proceeds go to the debian project. And yes, I believe all you need is the first DVD but you needn't download such a big file when the netinst image is less than 250MB... |
| 09:23.21 | simonlnu | vedranm: vedranm ask the question, then we'll ask for you more info |
| 09:23.22 | meta-coder | ok |
| 09:23.28 | simonlnu | vedranm: sorry |
| 09:23.43 | simonlnu | bah, they left |
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| 09:24.08 | dname | How do I open this drive? At Mount it displays an empty folder. There is only the Lost fund directory |
| 09:24.23 | stockholm | c |
| 09:25.05 | xand | dname: sounds like it's empty then |
| 09:25.14 | Bushmills | dname: if that shows, mount was successful |
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| 09:25.35 | Qubits | still around erawfish_ |
| 09:25.42 | Bushmills | now you can begin populating your drive |
| 09:25.58 | erawfish_ | Qubits: sure |
| 09:26.09 | oldirty | for those late to this discussion: dname has wiped his primary partition and now wants to restore it somehow without a backup of it's previous state. |
| 09:26.55 | xand | rolls eyes |
| 09:26.55 | Bushmills | well, restoring from backup qualifies as "populating the drive" |
| 09:27.42 | dname | I did not remove it. I entered your commands that you gave me |
| 09:27.48 | oldirty | Bushmills: agreed. |
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| 09:28.15 | oldirty | dname: "fsck /dev/sda1" "lvm vgchange -aly" "lvm vgdisplay" ? |
| 09:28.49 | dname | yes |
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| 09:29.28 | oldirty | those commands are completely non-intrusive. if you did a rebuild-tree on the underlying partition for an lvm "logical volume" you might see similar behavior, but that is not the case. |
| 09:29.43 | chowder | aaah, got my xserver back up and running :) |
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| 09:30.25 | oldirty | save me a headache and learn from your mistake. your mistake, in case you haven't caught on yet, was that you didn't have a backup. |
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| 09:30.54 | dname | but not impossible to open the hard drive on another computer? |
| 09:31.08 | xand | it would be the same |
| 09:31.30 | oldirty | dname: there is nothing on the hard drive now. |
| 09:31.44 | oldirty | dname: your drive is a freshly formatted ext3 partition. |
| 09:31.55 | Bushmills | there's an empty file system on it |
| 09:32.12 | AciD_ | I'm not sure it's the right channel to ask that, but since I'm on debian : I can't activate kde desktop effects, although I have a core i3 with integrated gpu. Moreover, the basic non-effect kde4 mode takes a lot of time to redraw windows when moved around. it keeps complaining that I should activate compositing, but isn't supposed to be automatic when not using xorg.conf ? |
| 09:32.38 | erawfish_ | AciD_: whivh cpu do you have and which debian do you run? |
| 09:32.41 | Dulak | the partition is gone. The only way to get it back would be to boot another system and hexedit the disk and put the old partition info back exactly as it was before it went poof, or restore from backup which you don't have. |
| 09:32.52 | Qubits | erawfish_: I installed after zeroing 2 gigsof the drive. I recreated a partition table in qparted and ran the installer, installed grub to the mbr |
| 09:32.54 | erawfish_ | Dulak: photorec, testdisk |
| 09:33.06 | oldirty | AciD_: there should be an option to enable compositing in your settings somewhere. give me a minute to look it up |
| 09:33.08 | Qubits | it's hung at GRUB loading. again. This time I didn't encrypt it. |
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| 09:33.30 | oldirty | Qubits: what grub version? |
| 09:33.39 | Qubits | whatever comes with squeeze |
| 09:33.46 | Qubits | 3? |
| 09:33.48 | erawfish_ | ,versions grub-pc |
| 09:33.50 | judd | Package: grub-pc on i386 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16; lenny-backports: 1.97~beta3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; sid: 1.99-12; wheezy: 1.99-12 |
| 09:33.54 | Dulak | erawfish_: they work on lvm? |
| 09:34.15 | Qubits | squeeze oldirty |
| 09:34.24 | erawfish_ | Dulak: not sure.how do you know he uses lvm? |
| 09:34.53 | Dulak | erawfish_: they been going at this for about an hour now |
| 09:34.54 | Qubits | gr all i want is debian |
| 09:35.20 | oldirty | err... is the the actual "GRUB Loading..." message or something else? |
| 09:35.21 | Dulak | erawfish_: photorec looks promising, it ignores the partition and slurps directly from disk |
| 09:35.25 | AciD_ | erawfish_: core i3-2105 (with integrated hd3000), debian squeeze |
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| 09:35.39 | erawfish_ | AciD_: get a backports kernel and xorg |
| 09:35.59 | AciD_ | I compiled my own 3.1 kernel yesterday to get the network |
| 09:36.24 | AciD_ | but I do have the stock 7.5+8 xorg server |
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| 09:36.49 | erawfish_ | ,versions xorg-xserver |
| 09:36.50 | judd | No package named 'xorg-xserver' was found in i386. |
| 09:36.53 | erawfish_ | ,versions xorg |
| 09:36.55 | judd | Package: xorg on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.3+20; squeeze: 1:7.5+8; squeeze-backports: 1:7.6+8~bpo60+1; sid: 1:7.6+9; wheezy: 1:7.6+9 |
| 09:37.06 | Qubits | can i try grub-legacy? |
| 09:37.13 | erawfish_ | Qubits: of course |
| 09:37.18 | erawfish_ | there is also lilo in the repos |
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| 09:38.34 | Qubits | will they support encrypted partitions? |
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| 09:39.10 | erawfish_ | if you don't encrypt /boot, it doesn't matter |
| 09:39.20 | Qubits | k |
| 09:39.25 | erawfish_ | any there is no real point to encrypt that |
| 09:39.34 | AciD_ | erawfish_: what's the new way of adding repo now ? is it still ok to add them manually in /etc/apt/source.list or should i do some new magic in source.list.d ? |
| 09:39.40 | Qubits | how do i downgrade grub? |
| 09:40.31 | erawfish_ | Qubits: you cannot uninstall grub and you cannot downgrade it. you can remove the package with dpkg and you can install another bootloader |
| 09:40.56 | simonlnu | it's xserver-xorg |
| 09:41.00 | erawfish_ | AciD_: I don't know of any fancy way than an editor. sources.list or sources.list.d/ doesn't matter. it's all the same |
| 09:41.07 | simonlnu | and there's xserver-xorg-core |
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| 09:42.03 | Bushmills | there may still be versions of loadlin for dos floating around in the net, for use with boot floppy |
| 09:42.25 | meta-coder | Where is the torrent of the Bluray ISO? |
| 09:42.38 | simonlnu | i don't doubt it. there might be one on ftp.debian.org (you gotta go rooting around a bit) |
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| 09:43.27 | simonlnu | meta-coder: www.debian.org/CD/ |
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| 09:44.09 | meta-coder | it says BDs are available only via Jigdoo.. |
| 09:44.42 | simonlnu | so use jigdo. |
| 09:44.49 | simonlnu | !jigdo |
| 09:44.50 | dpkg | Jigsaw Download (jigdo) is *the* method for downloading CD/DVD/BD images of Debian. See "Downloading Debian CD images with jigdo" at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ . http://wiki.debian.org/jigdo http://atterer.org/jigdo/ |
| 09:45.01 | meta-coder | !bd |
| 09:45.02 | dpkg | Blu-ray Disc (BD) is an optical disc storage medium with 25GB capacity per layer. The Debian CD team produce BD images of <Squeeze>, <Lenny> and weekly <testing> builds for i386, amd64 and source architectures, available via _jigdo only_. Ask me about <jigdo>, <install debian> and <weekly builds> ; .jigdo files are within "jigdo-bd" directories of {i386,amd64,source}. http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD |
| 09:46.15 | Qubits | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.45 | erawfish_ | meta-coder: do you really have a blu-ray burner? |
| 09:46.48 | Qubits | so there two girls came to my door, its 3am mind you, they aparrently had crashed their car into a house up the street drunk and underage |
| 09:47.00 | Qubits | cute though |
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| 09:47.10 | cthuluh | cute car? |
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| 09:47.21 | oldirty | heh.. ##offtopic |
| 09:47.30 | oldirty | err, debian-offtopic, even. |
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| 09:49.19 | Qubits | cute chick |
| 09:49.25 | Qubits | the other was midget looking |
| 09:49.47 | simonlnu | uhm, still ot. git lost to d-ot tyvm |
| 09:49.55 | Qubits | nothx |
| 09:50.12 | simonlnu | then be quiet about that. this is a support channel. |
| 09:50.20 | AciD_ | oldirty: did you find any pointers for thatcompositing settings somewhere ? :) |
| 09:50.38 | Qubits | you're just being a stickler for unnecessary protocol |
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| 09:50.40 | Qubits | kick back simon |
| 09:50.51 | erawfish_ | AciD_: have you installed the new xorg? until then you won't get compositing support ever |
| 09:51.03 | simonlnu | stop acting like a child |
| 09:51.18 | Qubits | lol how's that |
| 09:51.34 | oldirty | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kde+enable+compositing+squeeze |
| 09:51.36 | Qubits | ^ pwnd |
| 09:51.44 | oldirty | :P |
| 09:51.44 | AciD_ | erawfish_: it's downloading ! |
| 09:52.00 | erawfish_ | oldirty: squeeze has no support for his videocard. he's using VESA or such |
| 09:52.16 | oldirty | erawfish_: OH! missed that part... |
| 09:53.00 | AciD_ | perhaps the new xorg will fix my gdm/kdm 'no-usb-keyboard-input' problem. that'd be great |
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| 09:54.09 | primeras | hi. My English' isn't very well. I have a mixed console code. How do I assign a shortcut to it? |
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| 09:55.03 | valdyn | primeras: whats a "mixed console code" ? |
| 09:56.41 | oldirty | i think he's asking how to assign an alias |
| 09:56.48 | oldirty | maybe? |
| 09:57.12 | primeras | valberg: cat test.txt | grep aa. that code not mixed. but i want to that code assign a shortcut |
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| 09:57.43 | primeras | oldirty: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ualias.htm |
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| 09:57.47 | primeras | taht ? |
| 09:57.49 | primeras | that * |
| 09:57.51 | valdyn | primeras: echo "cat test.txt | grep aa" > shortcut; chmod +x shortcut |
| 09:58.12 | Bushmills | grep aa test.txt ... |
| 09:58.24 | valdyn | !uuoc |
| 09:58.25 | dpkg | UUOC is the Useless Use of Cat Award. Given out for years by Randal Schwartz on the newsgroup comp.unix.shell. Basically, most constructions that look like "cat filename | grep pattern" can be more easily written as "grep pattern filename". Works for grep and most other Unix utilities. Easier to type and marginally more efficient. |
| 09:58.43 | oldirty | valdyn: beat me to it :( |
| 09:59.35 | valdyn | primeras: you need to give us a realistic and complete example, not something you make up to show us |
| 09:59.39 | oldirty | you could do "alias aagrep='perl -pe 's/aa/I LOVE COPYPASTA/smg '" |
| 09:59.51 | oldirty | and then use it like "aagrep <file>" |
| 10:00.13 | valdyn | primeras: and that is because the exact thing you might want to do determines the solution. There's not generic way that fits all |
| 10:00.17 | oldirty | if you extrapolate, you might get something helpful from that :) |
| 10:00.33 | primeras | problem solved :) |
| 10:00.37 | primeras | http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ualias.htm |
| 10:00.39 | erawfish_ | it's funny how one has a 4 bucks problem in reality that it's only a fifty cents problem for bankers. you just witness finance mathematics... |
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| 10:00.53 | erawfish_ | E_CHAN |
| 10:00.59 | oldirty | I get the impression if you were inclined to extrapolation you wouldn't be asking me how to assign an alias, though. |
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| 10:01.30 | oldirty | !shut up |
| 10:01.31 | dpkg | No, I won't, and you can't make me. :P |
| 10:01.35 | oldirty | lol? |
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| 10:02.36 | AciD_ | erawfish_: the news xorg fixed the compositing bug ! thx |
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| 10:03.05 | oldirty | AciD_: not a bug, but glad you've got it working. |
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| 10:03.52 | meta-coder | !shutup |
| 10:03.53 | dpkg | No! You can STFU yourself! The voice of truth cannot be silenced! Oh, except perhaps in China... |
| 10:04.04 | meta-coder | ^^ What the hell is that? |
| 10:04.10 | erawfish_ | meta-coder: stop it |
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| 10:04.38 | meta-coder | erawfish_, who edits those responses from dpkg?? |
| 10:04.55 | erawfish_ | I just told you. users. now: do you have a debian related question? |
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| 10:09.50 | Qubits | erawfish_: grub-legacy gets stuck at GRUB Loading stage1.5 |
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| 10:10.16 | EyesIsMine | I'm having constant problem with my debina machine, it's having constant connection problems |
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| 10:11.13 | EyesIsMine | I can't open a ssh connection as it will time out/after ten seconds, and I have been having problems with this particular card in this machine before - kernel faliures it said |
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| 10:12.10 | erawfish_ | Qubits: a disk cylinder has 63 sectors. 1st sector is the MBR, the rest of the sectors on the first cylinder are all free. first partition begins at sector 64. on these sectors, grub has its stage 1.5 and that is what can't be loaded. |
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| 10:13.08 | simonlnu | EyesIsMine: you might consider putting another nic in |
| 10:13.14 | EyesIsMine | nic? |
| 10:13.24 | oldirty | Qubits: there was an obscure mixture of e2fstools and grub sometime in early lenny that could cause the problem too. You had to specify a specific inode count when formatting the partition, if memory serves |
| 10:13.47 | EyesIsMine | oh I see |
| 10:13.48 | oldirty | Qubits: that's totally unrelated to your problem, just thought you'd like to know that tidbit of useless information |
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| 10:14.09 | EyesIsMine | I don't have an extra one |
| 10:14.42 | Qubits | man its late |
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| 10:15.00 | Qubits | gonne fire up a grub prompt in rescue mdoe |
| 10:15.00 | simonlnu | EyesIsMine: network interface card |
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| 10:15.05 | erawfish_ | Qubits: on which sector does your 1st partition begin? |
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| 10:15.15 | Qubits | 64 |
| 10:15.22 | Qubits | according toyou |
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| 10:15.45 | Qubits | no thats the mbr |
| 10:15.47 | Qubits | ill look |
| 10:16.55 | Qubits | start =1 end = 32 |
| 10:17.20 | Qubits | starts on sector 2048 |
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| 10:20.12 | erawfish_ | Qubits: I doubt it does. what is the output of fdisk -l ? |
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| 10:21.04 | Qubits | ata1 limited to udma/33 due to 40 pin cable DOH! |
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| 10:21.32 | Qubits | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:22.51 | erawfish_ | Qubits: and you checked this how? |
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| 10:27.16 | EyesIsMine | Eh, maybe i'll restart the box, it needs one due to a recent kernel update |
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| 10:30.10 | izepstan | ยจOct 29 12:28:46 cache kernel: apache2[1881]: segfault at 00007fffee62af48 rip 00002b5ac2d91345 rsp 00007fffee62af50 error 6 |
| 10:30.15 | izepstan | any hint? |
| 10:30.27 | Qubits | grub cant mount or find those partitions |
| 10:30.37 | Qubits | erawfish_: with fdisk |
| 10:30.43 | valdyn | izepstan: apache2 crashed, theres no way anyone can tell more from this information |
| 10:31.11 | Qubits | im in the grub command line and it cant "find /boot/grub/stage1" or even mount partition 00 or 01 |
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| 10:36.15 | gnarface | is synaptics just for touchpads? |
| 10:36.21 | gnarface | or do mice work too? |
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| 10:36.53 | Qubits | I just tried grub-install /dev/sda1 which is mounted and just got no such partition |
| 10:36.54 | valdyn | gnarface: synaptics is a vendor/producer/brand of touchpads, not of mice |
| 10:37.14 | Qubits | erawfish_: you there? it's 2048 fdisk says |
| 10:37.31 | erawfish_ | Qubits: use partman in the installer to create you partitions |
| 10:38.00 | Qubits | is that the automated partitioner menu? |
| 10:38.07 | Qubits | i used the installer to make them |
| 10:38.37 | gnarface | does iceweasil support horizontal scrolling via x11 mouse wheel? |
| 10:38.48 | gnarface | say if you have two mouse wheels? |
| 10:38.52 | erawfish_ | partman doesn't create 1MByte empty space at the beginning of the disk |
| 10:39.27 | Qubits | erawfish_: i let it create the partitions automatically. |
| 10:39.59 | erawfish_ | Qubits: what is the actual output of fdisk -l on the /dev/sda1 line? |
| 10:40.08 | Qubits | 2048 |
| 10:40.22 | Qubits | I shit you not sir |
| 10:40.29 | erawfish_ | please do what I told you and don't make shit up |
| 10:40.37 | Qubits | I shit you not. |
| 10:40.51 | Qubits | 'tis 2048 when units is cylinders |
| 10:40.55 | Qubits | otherwise it's 1 |
| 10:41.30 | erawfish_ | please do what I asked you for. until you manage to do that, have a nice day |
| 10:41.37 | Qubits | erawfish_: |
| 10:41.41 | Qubits | I did it right away |
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| 10:41.48 | thewanderer1 | gnarface: horizontal scrolling works for me. |
| 10:41.49 | Qubits | It said 2048. |
| 10:41.57 | Qubits | Believe me |
| 10:42.13 | Qubits | would you like me to take a photo and upload it to imageshack? |
| 10:42.16 | erawfish_ | no you did NOT do what I asked you for. last time: what is the actual output of the line fdisk -l has "dev/sda1" |
| 10:42.39 | erawfish_ | if you are unable to do it otherwise, then I guess the answer is yes |
| 10:43.04 | Qubits | ou were beimg amniguous |
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| 10:43.14 | Qubits | gr |
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| 10:45.24 | Qubits | erawfish_: 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30 cylinders \ Units = cylinders of 16065X512=5225280 bytes \ Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes \ Disk identifiers: 0x00000000 \ \ Disk /dev/sda1 doesn't contain a valid partition table |
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| 10:45.42 | thewanderer1 | Qubits: it could be easier if you paste the complete output to paste.debian.net or some such, I think |
| 10:45.59 | Archelaus | Hey, when installing Debian it hangs at "scanning disks" |
| 10:46.09 | Qubits | and /dev/sda1: 254mb, 254803968 bytes |
| 10:46.12 | erawfish_ | Qubits: run the command fdisk -l and who what is on the line beginning with /dev/sda1 |
| 10:46.15 | Qubits | sorry thewanderer1 no paste app right now |
| 10:46.16 | Archelaus | I also cannot boot into Windows |
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| 10:46.24 | Qubits | ^ |
| 10:46.31 | erawfish_ | Qubits: and note the "63 sectors/track" part |
| 10:46.41 | Archelaus | But that isn't an issue right now, could someone please assist me with the install problem I'm experiencing |
| 10:46.50 | Qubits | Why's that? |
| 10:46.51 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: so maybe your disks are dead, hardware failure? |
| 10:47.00 | boudiccas | Archelaus; booting into windows is not a debian problem |
| 10:47.23 | EyesIsMine | Restarted debian, lasted 5 minutes before the network failed again |
| 10:47.47 | boudiccas | EyesIsMine; sounds like you need a new NIC |
| 10:47.48 | Archelaus | erawfish_: one of my drives had issues, but that's my external and isn't connected anymore |
| 10:48.03 | EyesIsMine | boudiccas, any that actually work with this |
| 10:48.05 | Qubits | What about it erawfish_ ? |
| 10:48.16 | Archelaus | Right now the only drive in is the one with boot on it |
| 10:48.30 | Archelaus | boudiccas: the issue was created after running the debian installer |
| 10:48.35 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: try a live cd |
| 10:48.41 | Archelaus | I'm using a live cd as we talk |
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| 10:48.52 | erawfish_ | or go into another console and check dmesg or if you can access disks |
| 10:48.59 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: which cd do you use? |
| 10:49.16 | Archelaus | erawfish_: version? or |
| 10:49.43 | Qubits | ? |
| 10:49.46 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: name would suffice I guess |
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| 10:50.11 | EyesIsMine | s there any way to check what wireless card I have from inside debian |
| 10:50.21 | Archelaus | Squeeze, erawfish_ |
| 10:50.26 | erawfish_ | EyesIsMine: lspci or lsusb |
| 10:50.49 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: then use a terminal and check dmesg and fdisk -l output |
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| 10:51.08 | EyesIsMine | oh hod. |
| 10:51.18 | Qubits | im dead tired and dont want to restart this whole investigation tomorrow, erawfish_ what are you telling me here? I gave you the info |
| 10:51.32 | Qubits | 254mb |
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| 10:52.00 | erawfish_ | Qubits: I told you to run fdisk -l. fdisk -l and nothing else. asked you tons of times. if you are too tired to do that, then go to sleep |
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| 10:52.11 | Qubits | erawfish_: i gave you the out put man |
| 10:52.14 | Qubits | didn't you read it? |
| 10:52.37 | Archelaus | erawfish_: did you want the output of dmesg? Also, fdisk -l gives me a fdisk: command not found |
| 10:52.43 | Qubits | erawfish_: /dev/sda1: 254mb, 254803968 bytes \ 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30 cylinders \ Units = cylinders of 16065X512=5225280 bytes \ Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes \ Disk identifiers: 0x00000000 \ \ Disk /dev/sda1 doesn't contain a valid partition table |
| 10:52.57 | erawfish_ | Qubits: no you did not, you gave me shit like "Disk /dev/sda1 doesn't contain a valid partition table" which tells me you did not run fdisk -l |
| 10:53.00 | EyesIsMine | Okay, it seems that ath9k is going to work for my AR922X |
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| 10:53.14 | Qubits | erawfish_: that is the output VERBATIM |
| 10:53.24 | erawfish_ | Qubits: I did never tell you to run "fdisk -l /dev/sda1", did I? |
| 10:53.44 | Qubits | one moment |
| 10:54.02 | erawfish_ | and now go to sleep. you are not fit to solve any problem in your current state |
| 10:54.03 | boudiccas | Qubits; the answer is 'no' |
| 10:54.23 | Qubits | I do this all the time |
| 10:54.41 | Qubits | /dev/sda1 * 1 32 248832 83 Linux |
| 10:54.49 | EyesIsMine | Okay, my card is confirmed as crap. |
| 10:54.58 | erawfish_ | EyesIsMine: I wouldn't go that far... |
| 10:55.11 | erawfish_ | EyesIsMine: supposedly you want a backports kernel to make ath9k work better tho |
| 10:55.26 | erawfish_ | Qubits: and that tells us sda1 starts at sector 64 |
| 10:55.42 | Qubits | ok |
| 10:56.00 | EyesIsMine | erawfish_, i'm not the only one who has problems with it |
| 10:56.14 | EyesIsMine | There's reports all over the web about it |
| 10:56.16 | Qubits | How does one proceed with such information erawfish_ ? |
| 10:56.19 | erawfish_ | EyesIsMine: which is why I told you to use 2.6.39 |
| 10:56.43 | EyesIsMine | erawfish_, how would I get 2.6.39 |
| 10:56.56 | erawfish_ | Qubits: you said before you used gparted to partition and I wanted to make sure that gparted didn't create a lot of free space at the beginning of the disk which might throw off grub for some reason |
| 10:57.03 | erawfish_ | !tell EyesIsMine about backports |
| 10:57.18 | Qubits | erawfish_: i let the installer repartition |
| 10:57.22 | erawfish_ | EyesIsMine: and backports has a newer kernel version |
| 10:57.29 | Qubits | grub .97 and grub 1.98 don't work |
| 10:57.40 | Qubits | this is out-of-the-box |
| 10:58.07 | erawfish_ | most likely it's some BIOS shenanigans which prevent grub from working properly in your case. but we cannot see into your BIOS |
| 10:58.19 | Qubits | its possible |
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| 10:58.24 | erawfish_ | what chipset does the mobo use and what jmicron controller is it? |
| 10:58.33 | Qubits | could lilo do it? |
| 10:58.38 | Qubits | + |
| 10:59.05 | erawfish_ | maybe it can. you can try and have nothing to lose. isntall lilo and /sbin/lilo afterwards |
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| 11:00.16 | Archelaus | erawfish_: http://pastebin.com/45W4gPde |
| 11:00.25 | Archelaus | The fdisk -l didn't work though, sorry |
| 11:00.55 | EyesIsMine | erawfish_, added to sources.list, what package do I need to install |
| 11:01.06 | EyesIsMine | upgrade ven |
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| 11:02.44 | izepstan | valdyn, error 6 doesnt mean anything specific? |
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| 11:02.50 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: looks fine to me. I suggest you use a proper debian installer ISO or CD or whatever to install debian |
| 11:03.10 | erawfish_ | ,kernels |
| 11:03.12 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-2-686-pae (3.0.0-5); wheezy: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-38); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 11:03.30 | erawfish_ | EyesIsMine: apt-cache search linux-image |
| 11:03.54 | Archelaus | erawfish_: I downloaded the correct one from the debian website |
| 11:03.58 | Archelaus | I'm sure of that |
| 11:04.03 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: filename? |
| 11:04.29 | EyesIsMine | I take it I install p linux-image-2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64 |
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| 11:04.52 | Archelaus | erawfish_: debian-live-6.0.3-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso |
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| 11:05.00 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: a debian installer is no live cd. it's not the proper one. |
| 11:05.12 | Qubits | great |
| 11:05.14 | Qubits | im screwed |
| 11:05.17 | Qubits | night |
| 11:05.47 | Archelaus | Oh, really? I've never installed Linux from anything but a usb stick |
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| 11:06.00 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: and you can do that with debian too |
| 11:06.16 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ go there and follow the "installer images" link |
| 11:06.37 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: in particular: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 11:06.56 | Archelaus | that's a lot of iso's, which do I download? |
| 11:07.13 | erawfish_ | cd1 of your choice |
| 11:07.26 | erawfish_ | you can cat or dd it directly onto a usb stick too |
| 11:07.27 | izepstan | is this a common error Oct 29 13:06:00 cache kernel: apache2[2235]: segfault at 00007fffee62afe0 rip 00002b5ac2ddb6bc rsp 00007fffee62afb0 error 6? |
| 11:07.39 | erawfish_ | izepstan: valdyn already answered you |
| 11:07.51 | Archelaus | erawfish_: do you perhaps have a link for "attaching" that to a usb |
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| 11:08.02 | izepstan | erawfish, how should i debug? |
| 11:08.03 | Archelaus | Excuse "attaching", I'm not sure what the process would be called |
| 11:08.04 | erawfish_ | !hybrid image |
| 11:08.10 | dpkg | The Debian 6.0/Squeeze installation images for x86 systems - e.g. <netinst>, <businesscard>, <CD1>, DVD1 - are hybrid images. These can be written directly to CD or HD Media (e.g. USB thumbdrive) without further preparation. See http://www.debian.org/News/project/2010/14/#hybrid for details. See also <install debian>, <usb install>. |
| 11:08.39 | erawfish_ | Archelaus: same way you made your live usb stick basically |
| 11:08.49 | Archelaus | I did that on Windows though |
| 11:08.57 | Archelaus | and I'm on the debian livecd atm |
| 11:09.30 | TechDesk | http://fukung.net/v/4/31337_hax0r.jpg |
| 11:10.36 | Qubits | \ |
| 11:10.43 | Qubits | oops |
| 11:11.18 | EyesIsMine | dkms: running auto installation service for kernel 2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64: |
| 11:11.18 | mark76 | My software sources list has disappeared from /etc/? |
| 11:11.19 | EyesIsMine | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:11.20 | EyesIsMine | oops |
| 11:11.31 | EyesIsMine | that's not good right |
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| 11:11.59 | mark76 | Where's it gone? |
| 11:12.26 | erawfish_ | EyesIsMine: nvidia or ati drivers? |
| 11:12.32 | EyesIsMine | ati |
| 11:12.57 | EyesIsMine | ATI Radeon 3000 is my card but I use this pc as a personal server |
| 11:13.17 | EyesIsMine | Okay, just installed linux-headers-2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64 and it's re-running trhe auto-installation |
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| 11:13.32 | Gorilla_No_Baka | hello there |
| 11:13.35 | EyesIsMine | failed agaibn |
| 11:14.39 | Gorilla_No_Baka | guys is it debian going to change to gnome friggin 3 as well? i hate it.. How long is debian gonna stay with the classic gnome ? does anyone know that? |
| 11:14.59 | EyesIsMine | Okay, restarting it, let's hope 2.6.39 works |
| 11:15.07 | valdyn | Gorilla_No_Baka: next debian release will be gnome 3 |
| 11:15.12 | Gorilla_No_Baka | crap. |
| 11:15.27 | Gorilla_No_Baka | any chance to keep the old classic debian? |
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| 11:16.06 | EyesIsMine | Okay, restarting |
| 11:16.15 | valdyn | Gorilla_No_Baka: yes, dont upgrade |
| 11:16.15 | Trewas | Gorilla_No_Baka: just do not upgrade? gnome2 is dead upstream so distros are kind of forced to change to gnome3 |
| 11:16.25 | Gorilla_No_Baka | i mean.. will we be able to download and install the classic gnome 2? |
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| 11:16.47 | valdyn | Gorilla_No_Baka: unlikely in a way that is supported by debian |
| 11:17.00 | mark76 | Before my question disappears off the page does anyone know where software-sources.list is now? |
| 11:17.14 | EyesIsMine | It seems to have booted with 2.6.39 correctly |
| 11:17.15 | valdyn | Gorilla_No_Baka: what does it matter right now? squeeze will be supported for 2 more years probably |
| 11:17.18 | Gorilla_No_Baka | man it sucks.. i tried it and it was all bling and stuff. could not get my way around it.. put it this way.. kde is acually better than gnome 3 and I HATE KDE :) |
| 11:17.51 | valdyn | Gorilla_No_Baka: and in 2 more years you might moan about why debian isnt shipping gnome 4 |
| 11:17.53 | mark76 | Xfce! |
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| 11:17.58 | EyesIsMine | Must uninstall freevo. |
| 11:18.08 | EyesIsMine | not very useful, that thing is |
| 11:18.38 | Gorilla_No_Baka | not me.. valdyn i like simple things i can understand like icewm and openbox.. gnome is already way over my head.. |
| 11:18.55 | valdyn | Gorilla_No_Baka: so theres no problem |
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| 11:19.24 | EyesIsMine | Yep, working, with 2.6.39 |
| 11:19.59 | Gorilla_No_Baka | not really.. no.. valdyn .. i was just curious.. |
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| 11:21.13 | mark76 | software sources, anyone? I genuinely can't find the damned file anywhere |
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| 11:21.26 | valdyn | mark76: which file? |
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| 11:21.34 | mark76 | software-sources.list |
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| 11:21.44 | valdyn | mark76: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:21.44 | mark76 | It's not in etc where it should be |
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| 11:21.53 | mark76 | Ah. thanks valdyn |
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| 11:32.02 | erawfish_ | mark76: it has been there for almost ten years |
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| 11:35.00 | qubits | http://old.nabble.com/fixing-the-%22grub-loading-stage1.5%22-hanging-error-td13434214.html |
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| 11:42.28 | mark76 | I thought Wheezy was going to become the stable release in 2013? Have you gone back to "when we think it's ready"? |
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| 11:43.01 | erawfish_ | it's always "when it's ready" and always has been |
| 11:43.05 | mark76 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Releases |
| 11:43.45 | mark76 | Oh it is still 2013. I was looking at the Supported until column |
| 11:44.11 | boudiccas | Doh! |
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| 11:54.22 | oskie | hello, i'm using dpatch-edit-patch, but if I build code during edit I'll get binaries in the patch... what is the correct way to handle this? |
| 11:54.31 | izepstan | fount other message: [Sat Oct 29 13:54:03 2011] [notice] child pid 2823 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) |
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| 11:55.13 | AciD_ | after upgrading to squeeze, most of my directory names (and surely filesnames but can't found one to test) aren't showing accentuated characters. Is there a command to execute somewhere, perhaps like convmv ? |
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| 11:55.51 | erawfish_ | create filenames with accents |
| 11:56.05 | Dagger3 | I do wish there was a well-defined list of goals for Wheezy |
| 11:56.09 | Dagger3 | it's all very well saying "it'll be released when it's ready", but if you don't even know *what* you're trying to get ready, how are you ever going to know when you've got there? |
| 11:56.13 | izepstan | coult that be eaccelerator? |
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| 11:58.33 | Dagger3 | I see http://release.debian.org/wheezy/goals.txt, but that looks like more of a wishlist than anything (e.g. full IPv6 and large file support have been on there since *etch* -- clearly those goals didn't need to be ready for either etch or squeeze to get released. How am I supposed to tell which of the entries on there are actually required for wheezy to be declared ready, vs which ones are |
| 11:58.34 | Dagger3 | just random stuff people are working on?) |
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| 12:03.10 | izepstan | is somewhere a queue or a logfile for the php mail function? |
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| 12:05.32 | Coweater | Dagger3: maybe it helps to know that release happens when there are zero Release Critical bugs, so when they get close to release they start whittling them down or possibly removing offending packages |
| 12:07.13 | Coweater | but otherwise there isn't really an overarching release goal, lot's of people do a lot of things with debian |
| 12:08.04 | claint | anyone know if it is possible to create a zram device with Debian Squeeze stock kernel? (which is 2.6.32-5) |
| 12:08.29 | erawfish_ | claint: check /boot/config* |
| 12:08.41 | claint | erawfish_: thanks |
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| 12:11.00 | claint | looks like the config option is not there. I wonder which kernel has it. |
| 12:11.29 | claint | or... the kernel already has it but it is not configured? hmmm. |
| 12:11.48 | Dagger3 | Coweater: but then I have to wonder how they know they're close to release when there's no critera for defining when a release is |
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| 12:12.36 | Dagger3 | it sounds like they just sort of go "man, guys, we haven't had a release for a couple of years, maybe we should do one soon" |
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| 12:12.50 | Coweater | so what if they do? |
| 12:13.00 | Dagger3 | (which is a reasonable way of doing it, I just wish they'd be upfront about it rather than hiding behind "when it's ready") |
| 12:13.22 | boudiccas | Dagger3; is it really important? |
| 12:13.48 | darkschneider | hello, i have just installed a dkms package, but aptitude select to build the module for a kernel i have uninstalled, my newbie question is how to set "default" kernel aptitude should use (not grub related) |
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| 12:14.23 | darkschneider | aptitude or dkms, no idea which of the two makes the pic inthis case, since the process is automatic |
| 12:14.39 | erawfish_ | darkschneider: for which kernel exactly is it building? |
| 12:15.00 | Coweater | darkschneider: are you running the uninstalled kernel? |
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| 12:15.28 | AciD_ | erawfish_: I can create files and directories with accent |
| 12:15.50 | AciD_ | erawfish_: ...and they show ok. |
| 12:15.57 | Dagger3 | boudiccas: I think having an idea of where you're going is useful if you want to know how to get there |
| 12:16.03 | erawfish_ | AciD_: possibly you changed locale from iso8859 to utf |
| 12:16.08 | Dagger3 | and Debian doesn't really seem to have that for its stable releases |
| 12:16.13 | darkschneider | Coweater: naturally not :) it's picking something else insteas of uname -r |
| 12:16.24 | erawfish_ | Dagger3: you are mistaken. |
| 12:16.43 | darkschneider | erawfish_: 3.0.0-2-amd64 is running, he is picking -486 |
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| 12:17.04 | darkschneider | "he"/it (aptitude has become human... :D ) |
| 12:17.18 | erawfish_ | darkschneider: are you running 32bit debian or 64bit? |
| 12:17.27 | AciD_ | erawfish_: perhaps, I don't know how to check that. I guess if I can create files with accent, there should be a script to rename all the faulty files and folders then.. |
| 12:17.31 | darkschneider | erawfish_: 64bit |
| 12:17.38 | erawfish_ | darkschneider: then that what you say is impossible |
| 12:18.12 | erawfish_ | darkschneider: you cannot uninstall a -486 kernel on a 64bit debian iether |
| 12:18.24 | AciD_ | i'll look for convmv |
| 12:18.26 | Coweater | darkschneider: are kernel header packages for everything installed? |
| 12:18.35 | Dagger3 | erawfish_: that's great to hear. now if only somebody could come up with what those goals actually *are*, I'd believe you |
| 12:18.43 | erawfish_ | darkschneider: dpkg -l |grep linux-image |
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| 12:18.57 | darkschneider | erawfish_: mmm interesting point, so i may be compeltely off |
| 12:21.16 | darkschneider | erawfish_: i'm sure i follow, anyway as i said: linux-image-3.0.0-2-amd64 |
| 12:21.55 | darkschneider | erawfish_: and yes i did uninstall linux-image-3.0.0-1-486 loke 2 days ago |
| 12:22.19 | darkschneider | Coweater: thanks, checking for header packages, maybe that is my miss |
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| 12:24.03 | darkschneider | (sorry will be on phone for a bit, thanks for help will ask again if latest suggest does not fix) |
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| 12:34.21 | erawfish_ | darkschneider: dpkg --print-architecture |
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| 12:43.35 | Mogget | Is there a place with good information on how to work with kernels? Meaning how to load modules and whatnot and how to knwo what you need etc? |
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| 12:48.22 | oldirty | Mogget: what are you trying to do. |
| 12:48.47 | Mogget | oldirty: learn how to work with kernels. |
| 12:49.12 | oldirty | Mogget: http://kernelnewbies.org/ |
| 12:49.23 | Mogget | oldirty: i have no agenda, just want to know more about kernels. |
| 12:49.31 | Mogget | oldirty: thank you. |
| 12:50.32 | oldirty | Mogget: that should get you pointed in the right direction. ##kernel would be a good resource as well, but only after you have familiarized yourself enough to not make their gurus suicidal. |
| 12:51.19 | Mogget | laughs |
| 12:51.55 | Mogget | yeah, right now my goal is to understand drivers etc and how to know what to do when they are not installed. |
| 12:52.09 | Mogget | So ill try that and see where i go from after that. |
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| 13:05.36 | saleem_ | hi , if wanted to use testing, should i mentioned "testing" or "wheezy" in sources.lst entry? |
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| 13:07.04 | pundit | to switch between different keyboard layouts there was this syntax in xorg.conf with Xkblayout. however, as there is no section for InputDevice in xorg.conf anymore, is there another way to switch between keyboard layouts? |
| 13:07.32 | erawfish_ | you can put it still into xorg.conf in that section and it will be used |
| 13:08.33 | oldirty | saleem_: no. you do _not_ want to use testing. |
| 13:08.36 | pundit | erawfish_: there is no section InputDevice, and to manually write one it has to include a driver name |
| 13:08.54 | erawfish_ | you can use your old section verbatim |
| 13:09.11 | pundit | erawfish_: old section? |
| 13:09.15 | erawfish_ | saleem_: same way as for debian stable |
| 13:09.37 | pundit | erawfish_: there was no section |
| 13:09.41 | saleem_ | oldirty, no ? |
| 13:09.54 | erawfish_ | pundit: you said there was: as there is no section for InputDevice in xorg.conf anymore |
| 13:10.03 | saleem_ | thanks erawfish_ |
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| 13:10.12 | oldirty | !testing |
| 13:10.13 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <wheezy>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <squeeze->wheezy> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 13:10.21 | pundit | erawfish_: i see :) i mean in older linux distributions :) |
| 13:10.54 | erawfish_ | pundit: yes, and this same xorg.conf would still work in current xorg |
| 13:10.59 | erawfish_ | or use X -configure |
| 13:11.12 | saleem_ | oldirty, thanks |
| 13:11.19 | oldirty | vis-a-vis, if you have to ask how to set up your apt sources to use testing, you are not ready to use testing. |
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| 13:12.14 | saleem_ | i have one older remaster when squeeze was testing, i guess i will change name to "squeeze" than testing and update it to avoid broken system |
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| 13:12.48 | FreeFull | GDM refuses to let my user log in, but allows me to log in when I mv .ecryptfs/ ecryptfs/ (debian testing) |
| 13:13.33 | pundit | erawfish_: ok, thanks. is there another command similar to "X"? i think i saw one once. |
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| 13:14.37 | oldirty | FreeFull: if you're using testing you are beyond the realm of my support. |
| 13:15.25 | saleem_ | oldirty, http://pastie.org/2778056 , i was using those sources.lst then |
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| 13:15.59 | oldirty | saleem_: ... okay?! is that a question? |
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| 13:16.47 | oldirty | saleem_: the fact remains, if you have to get on IRC to ask questions about your sources.list you are just going to create problems by running testing. problems that I or one of the other fine helpers in this channel are going to have to fix for you. |
| 13:16.57 | saleem_ | no , telling you that i will change my sources.lst to "squeeze" per your direction ^^^ |
| 13:17.07 | oldirty | not to affiliate myself with this channel in anyway, because that's not the case... |
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| 13:17.37 | oldirty | going from testing to anything is going to be hacky. i would recommend a complete reinstall. obviously, backup first. |
| 13:18.06 | saleem_ | sounds more reasonable |
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| 13:19.36 | Iridos | dpkg, downgrade |
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| 13:20.27 | dpkg | [downgrade] Downgrading is not possible with apt-get/aptitude and no future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 13:20.34 | Iridos | ha... |
| 13:20.40 | Iridos | took your time, eh? |
| 13:20.52 | oldirty | he's been busy tonight. needed a nap. |
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| 13:22.26 | pundit | erawfish_: ah, "X -configure" gave an InputDevice section in xorg.conf |
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| 13:27.34 | pundit | erawfish_: i have it now as http://pastebin.com/0kC22tKH but the alt-shift does not toggle |
| 13:28.52 | pundit | erawfish_: ah, sorry, have to generate the locale. suppose then it will work :) |
| 13:29.02 | pundit | erawfish_: thanks! :) |
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| 13:32.25 | saleem_ | !kernel |
| 13:32.34 | saleem_ | ! kernel |
| 13:32.35 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, linux-next: next-20110831, linux-next: next-20110831, snapshot 3: 3.1-rc4-git2, mainline 3: 3.1-rc4 , stable 3.0: 3.0.4 , stable 2.6.39: 2.6.39.4 , stable 2.6.38: 2.6.38.8 , stable 2.6.37: 2.6.37.6 , longterm 2.6.35: 2.6.35.14 , longterm 2.6.34: 2.6.34.10 , longterm 2.6.33: 2.6.33.19 , longterm 2.6.32: 2.6.32.46 , longterm 2.6.27: 2.6.27.59 |
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| 13:33.41 | noob | does anyone know a command equal to ls |
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| 13:36.38 | shp | why do i have not in gdmsetup gdm themes configuration? |
| 13:36.52 | shp | I'd like to change my gdm theme graphically |
| 13:38.01 | shp | i should have sth like that: http://ubunteros.tuxfamily.org/local/cache-vignettes/L450xH425/gdmsetup-2-6c1f0.jpg |
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| 13:40.53 | Iridos | !wayttd noob |
| 13:40.53 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, noob? |
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| 13:47.36 | Arial700 | update-grub is not recognizing my windows 7 partition !! help plzz |
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| 13:50.23 | gusryfeld | uranus- ? |
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| 13:59.14 | jokar | hello all |
| 13:59.17 | jokar | all: |
| 13:59.29 | jokar | can i ugrade my debian 6.1 to debian 6.0.3 |
| 13:59.51 | jokar | debian 6.0.3 use gnome 3? |
| 13:59.53 | jokar | all:\ |
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| 14:00.24 | jokar | i download all dvd package for debian 6.0.1 can i use they for debian 6.0.23 |
| 14:00.25 | jokar | ? |
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| 14:02.05 | jokar | \o/ all |
| 14:02.09 | jokar | o/ all |
| 14:02.11 | jokar | all: |
| 14:02.15 | erawfish_ | stop it |
| 14:02.15 | qrq | How stable is wheezy? |
| 14:02.18 | jokar | i download all dvd package for debian 6.0.1 can i use they for debian 6.0.23 |
| 14:02.28 | erawfish_ | qrq: very unstable |
| 14:02.48 | erawfish_ | Arial700: run os-prober ? |
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| 14:03.01 | qrq | erawfish Many crashes? |
| 14:03.03 | jokar | why? |
| 14:03.15 | erawfish_ | many packaging conflicts, bugs |
| 14:03.33 | qrq | Thanks |
| 14:03.38 | jokar | erawfish_: debian 6.0.3 not stable |
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| 14:03.51 | e-anima | where is krusador hiding after install? sure i can call it from the console but i meant in the menu |
| 14:03.53 | Arial700 | erawfish_, will try it! thanku |
| 14:04.06 | erawfish_ | ,versions krusador |
| 14:04.07 | judd | No package named 'krusador' was found in i386. |
| 14:04.15 | jokar | can i upgrede my debian 6.0.1 to debian 6.0.3 |
| 14:04.15 | erawfish_ | e-anima: not in debian, so we cannot know |
| 14:04.38 | jokar | all: |
| 14:04.57 | e-anima | i used aptitude install krusader |
| 14:05.00 | e-anima | not in debian? |
| 14:05.13 | erawfish_ | e-anima: krusader = krusador |
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| 14:05.34 | erawfish_ | *!0 |
| 14:05.53 | e-anima | erawfish_ yes |
| 14:06.15 | erawfish_ | e-anima: you asked for krusador, not krusader |
| 14:06.17 | OldParr | i installed kde alongside with gnome and xcfe but kde does not logs in, machine restarts at the logon screens, computer is configured to automatically login as user in gnome, would it be the problem? |
| 14:06.21 | e-anima | sorry typo |
| 14:06.22 | jokar | hey all |
| 14:06.26 | jokar | can you answer me |
| 14:06.27 | jokar | ? |
| 14:06.37 | e-anima | i meant krusader |
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| 14:07.25 | shp | i don't find /boot/grub/menu.lst file |
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| 14:08.10 | gusryfeld | Are you using Grub2? |
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| 14:08.28 | gusryfeld | If so you should edit /etc/default/grub instead. |
| 14:08.50 | gusryfeld | Also see the scripts in /etc/grub.d/ |
| 14:09.09 | erawfish_ | e-anima: /usr/share/menu/<program name> |
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| 14:09.16 | e-anima | ok thx |
| 14:09.52 | erawfish_ | shp: it doesn't exist anymore. there is grub.cfg instead, but you don't want to edit that. read the first lines in that file |
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| 14:11.11 | shp | thx erawfish_ but i just want to put a picture as background of grub |
| 14:11.47 | pundit | erawfish_: i have an InputDevice section in xorg.conf now. it does not work, because also "setxkbmap -rules xorg -layout "de, eg" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"' gives an error |
| 14:12.04 | OldParr | i installed kde alongside with gnome and xcfe but kde does not logs in, machine restarts at the logon screens, computer is configured to automatically login as user in gnome, would it be the problem? |
| 14:12.10 | pundit | i have used values from "locale -a" in '-layout' |
| 14:12.15 | e-anima | i lost the name of that multi tab console program. forgot the name. any ideas? |
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| 14:14.27 | saleem_ | http://pastie.org/2778260 |
| 14:14.42 | saleem_ | is there any fix for this issue? |
| 14:14.59 | erawfish_ | e-anima: most xterms have that by now |
| 14:16.08 | erawfish_ | saleem_: yes |
| 14:16.45 | saleem_ | erawfish_, im reading, its a bug but apparently i could not locate any fix for it |
| 14:17.06 | saleem_ | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631808 |
| 14:17.18 | Iridos | e-anima, screen? gnome-terminal? |
| 14:17.46 | e-anima | ah new tab |
| 14:17.47 | e-anima | i see thx |
| 14:18.00 | erawfish_ | saleem_: the fix is so easy that there is no point mentioning it. any testing user knows what to do |
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| 14:18.20 | erawfish_ | you create the path to that file |
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| 14:19.40 | saleem_ | http://pastie.org/2778277 |
| 14:19.45 | Iridos | actually the initial bug report mentions the fix? |
| 14:20.01 | OldParr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:20.36 | erawfish_ | OldParr: you mean your machine reboots? |
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| 14:23.13 | OldParr | erawfish_: yes machine reeboots |
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| 14:23.36 | valdyn | I think he means that X quits and returns to the login screen |
| 14:24.07 | OldParr | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.14 | saleem_ | upgrade has finished smoothly |
| 14:24.55 | OldParr | valdyn: x quits but it reeboots, it does nots returns to login screen |
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| 14:26.47 | OldParr | i installed kde alongside with gnome and xcfe but kde does not logs in, machine reboots at the stage of the the logon screens |
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| 14:27.44 | OldParr | i installed kde alongside with gnome and xcfe but kde does not logs in, machine reboots at the stage of the the kde's logon screens |
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| 14:29.22 | metaperl|2 | i'm trying to build a Perl module under debian/testing and am getting the erorr """/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s """ |
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| 14:30.25 | erawfish_ | metaperl|2: install build-essential |
| 14:30.53 | metaperl|2 | erawfish_: thankyou. and I will try to use aptitude ... i've been using `apt-get install` for 3 years but I hear aptitude handles deps better? |
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| 14:31.51 | pundit | i want to use which X keyboard description i use at the moment. how to display its name? |
| 14:32.30 | boudiccas | pundit; what? |
| 14:33.27 | frixion | don't cross-message |
| 14:33.28 | pundit | boudiccas i can "setxkbmap" with various layouts etc. But i dont get the map i use on startup of X. how to findout its name? |
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| 14:36.01 | erawfish_ | pundit: check your Xorg logfile |
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| 14:36.51 | bla | Hello. |
| 14:37.11 | frixion | hey. |
| 14:37.20 | pundit | erawfish_: very good. i find 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_layout: "de"' which conforms to the locale in use "de_AT" |
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| 14:37.40 | pundit | but how to use something like "de_AT" in setxkbmap? |
| 14:38.52 | bla | /etc/init.d/networking is linked to /etc/rcS.d/S18networking. During 'boot' (it's lxc container) I see 'starting networking' yet the networking doesn't start. Running script manually does the thing. What might be wrong? any ideas? It's a post-vserver container... |
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| 14:43.55 | e-anima | hm if i want to completely uninstall my apache2 an aptitude purge apache2 should be sufficient? |
| 14:44.22 | pundit | erawfish_: it must be something like the "-variant" option. but where to see exactly the installed keymaps and their variants? |
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| 14:46.56 | metaperl|2 | even after installing build-essential, libgcc_s.a is not on my debain/testing system |
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| 14:52.52 | erawfish_ | !tell metaperl|2 about search |
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| 14:53.25 | frixion | dpkg is sick |
| 14:53.25 | dpkg | frixion: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 14:53.37 | frixion | !tell metaperl|2 about search |
| 14:53.59 | frixion | oops, sorry |
| 14:54.23 | metaperl|2 | this failed to return anything - http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gcc_s.a&mode=exactfilename&suite=testing&arch=i386 |
| 14:54.32 | Iridos | apt-file |
| 14:55.21 | boudiccas | metaperl|2; sudo updatedb, and when done locate libgcc |
| 14:55.27 | metaperl|2 | apt-file search gcc_s returns nothing |
| 14:56.03 | metaperl|2 | do you mean apt-get updatedb or apt-file update ? |
| 14:56.21 | boudiccas | metaperl|2; i mean sudo updatedb |
| 14:56.45 | metaperl|2 | ok, that command is not returning quickly. i probably should have run it in verbose ode |
| 14:56.46 | metaperl|2 | mode |
| 14:57.15 | boudiccas | metaperl|2; it takes time to build the database, but run it as root |
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| 14:57.34 | Iridos | metaperl|2, the same returns 36 lines for me on squeeze |
| 14:57.54 | Iridos | (the apt-file search) |
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| 14:59.25 | allnight888 | !list |
| 14:59.26 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
| 14:59.37 | allnight888 | subito |
| 14:59.41 | allnight888 | !list |
| 14:59.42 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
| 14:59.46 | metaperl|2 | i see... ok it's running |
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| 15:02.55 | darkschneider | why dpkg speaks italian? |
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| 15:03.38 | erawfish_ | cause only italians come in and start with !list |
| 15:05.26 | gusryfeld | What do they expect from "!list", anyway? |
| 15:05.31 | darkschneider | erawfish_: you right, me silly... in the blind install i installed wrong debian version... arf... good done of humility to me... thanks |
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| 15:09.51 | darkschneider | erawfish_: lol poor italians :D |
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| 15:11.08 | e-anima | i dont get it aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 , no paackges will be installed... |
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| 15:11.24 | e-anima | so he think that it is installed. but its not because its not in mods-avaliable |
| 15:11.29 | e-anima | i dont get that |
| 15:13.32 | OldParr | i installed kde alongside with gnome and xcfe but kde does not logs in, machine reboots at the stage of the the kde's logon screens |
| 15:13.32 | jhutchins_lt | !tell e-anima about search |
| 15:13.55 | e-anima | ah i know that |
| 15:14.11 | e-anima | i installed all that stuff wehn debian was new a day ago |
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| 15:14.38 | e-anima | then i did something killing my whole apache. so i decided to kill em all and reinstall |
| 15:14.58 | e-anima | atm he somehow does not correctly reinstall stuff like always |
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| 15:15.13 | e-anima | but i do not know why |
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| 15:16.22 | e-anima | that tells me my uninstall is wrong, so "remove" is apparently not sufficien tto uninstall stuff it seems |
| 15:16.35 | jelly-home | !tell e-anima about confmiss |
| 15:16.50 | jelly-home | e-anima: have you manually deleted files from /etc/apache2? |
| 15:17.00 | e-anima | yes |
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| 15:18.01 | e-anima | so i should not "mnaully deliting configs is BAD" |
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| 15:19.39 | jelly-home | e-anima: correct, if you want to get rid of packages completely, purge them |
| 15:19.59 | e-anima | ok noted |
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| 15:20.13 | vharishankar | e-anima: in Debian, generally it's not the recommended way to manually delete config files |
| 15:20.34 | vharishankar | As jelly-homenoted, purge is the method. |
| 15:20.58 | e-anima | notes that to the wall of @NOT-TODO |
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| 15:22.30 | e-anima | so uninstall is an uninstal lwith keeping configs and purge is a KILL all uninstall |
| 15:22.56 | metaperl|2 | libgcc_s.a is found on my system via `apt-file search` ( http://pastie.org/2778540 ) yet not found by `perl Build.PL` I suppose I could add it manually to LD_LIBRARY_PATH but it seems like an odd thing to do |
| 15:23.31 | vharishankar | e-anima: yes. |
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| 15:23.59 | e-anima | thx very much |
| 15:24.12 | free_bullets | I'm trying to get flash working on my 64 bit system. I'm using iceweasel 8. When I load a flash applet, it doesn't load; it just says flash crashed. |
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| 15:25.02 | vharishankar | free_bullets: what package are you using for Flash? |
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| 15:25.37 | free_bullets | vharishankar: flashplugin-nonfree |
| 15:25.41 | OldParr | i installed KDE alongside with gnome and xcfe , the machine starts properly with all of them but kde, when starting KDE it begin to load the desktop but then screen goes black and returns to the logon screen |
| 15:26.08 | vharishankar | free_bullets: which website? |
| 15:26.20 | vharishankar | So that I can check on it. |
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| 15:26.35 | shp | hi |
| 15:26.53 | shp | i want to install new themes on my gnome but i don't know if i've got to take gtk3 or gtk2 or metacity ... : http://gnome-look.org/ |
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| 15:27.49 | free_bullets | vharishankar: i installed it using apt-get |
| 15:28.23 | boudiccas | free_bullets; from where? |
| 15:28.25 | vharishankar | free_bullets: sorry if I wasn't clear. Which website crashed when you used flash plugin? |
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| 15:29.05 | free_bullets | vharishankar: youtube for example. it doesn't work anywhere. |
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| 15:29.11 | thewanderer1 | shp, on Debian 6.0, you want GTK2 |
| 15:29.29 | shp | thx thewanderer1 |
| 15:29.34 | free_bullets | boudiccas: were you asking the same thing as vharis? |
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| 15:29.58 | vharishankar | free_bullets: did you try only with iceweasel or also with other browsers? |
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| 15:31.37 | free_bullets | vharishankar: the only other browser i have installed atm is konquerer and it seems like it doesn't detect flash |
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| 15:33.37 | vharishankar | free_bullets: for me it works with iceweasel. I am also using amd64. |
| 15:34.01 | free_bullets | vharishankar: what version of iceweasel? |
| 15:34.10 | vharishankar | vharishankar: try installing konqueror-nsplugins |
| 15:34.28 | vharishankar | free_bullets: try installing konqueror-nsplugins |
| 15:35.00 | vharishankar | free_bullets: I am on 7.0.1 |
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| 15:35.24 | boudiccas | free_bullets; who is vharis? i reiterated the question of vharishankar |
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| 15:35.53 | vharishankar | boudiccas: I believe he was referring to me |
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| 15:36.22 | free_bullets | flash player works in konquerer. i guess it's something wrong between iceweasel 8 and flash player. |
| 15:37.20 | free_bullets | so I still need help getting this fixed if anyone knows any possible solutions |
| 15:37.25 | vharishankar | free_bullets: yes, with 7.0.1-2 from "testing" it's fine. |
| 15:37.37 | vharishankar | where did you get 8.0 from? It's not in unstable yet? |
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| 15:37.54 | free_bullets | vharishankar: experimental repo |
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| 15:39.47 | vharishankar | free_bullets: did you consider downgrading to 7.x until 8.0 gets to unstable? |
| 15:40.14 | free_bullets | vharishankar: i guess i'm gonna have to |
| 15:40.35 | vharishankar | experimental packages tend to be broken. |
| 15:41.01 | blubberdiblub | that's why it's called "experimental" ;) |
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| 15:45.12 | pundit | erawfish_: i found it "xkbmap -print -verbose 10" prints out all the current settings. |
| 15:45.58 | pundit | erawfish_: in my case the missing point was 'setxkbmap -keycodes "evdev+aliases(qwertz)"' |
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| 15:46.32 | pundit | erawfish_: all possible settings are found in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules |
| 15:47.35 | helen | pundit: 1 |
| 15:47.37 | helen | pundit: 2 |
| 15:47.39 | helen | pundit: 3 |
| 15:47.49 | helen | You do a lot of highlighting. lol |
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| 15:56.45 | raven | hi |
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| 15:57.30 | raven | debian on 166 mhz intel - grub freezes - changed etc/default/grub already to low graphics and did update-grub but no change |
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| 15:59.27 | darkschneider | raven: my first suggestion is to go for lilo, or syslinux, since they are easier for those machines, especially if you are using grub2 (but that is not a fix, just a fast suggestion to avoid trouble) |
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| 15:59.49 | thewanderer1 | raven, change it to terminal mode without graphics |
| 16:00.06 | raven | thewanderer1, i did |
| 16:00.41 | thewanderer1 | tried grub-legacy? |
| 16:00.52 | raven | thewanderer1, with reinstall yes |
| 16:00.54 | darkschneider | i'm very unsure if grub has all the dirty hacks needed by some of those old bioses |
| 16:01.05 | jelly-home | grub has all the hacks |
| 16:01.06 | thewanderer1 | GRUB has worked for me on Pentium 166MHz |
| 16:01.20 | thewanderer1 | I don't remember if it was GRUB1 or GRUB2, though |
| 16:01.40 | jelly-home | or if 2 existed at the time |
| 16:01.58 | thewanderer1 | it was around Lenny or Etch I think |
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| 16:02.19 | darkschneider | (i'm sure grub is exceptional product, just maybe 166 was not his target machine... so not having peculiarities for it is fine imho) |
| 16:03.04 | darkschneider | and at 166Mhz intel cpu time there was definitely no grub2... actually i think there was no grub at all... i was using lilo and it was considered "new" |
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| 16:04.55 | valdyn | darkschneider: lilo is years older than that |
| 16:05.07 | darkschneider | yeah |
| 16:05.41 | pundit | helen: you see it highlighted when i put erawfish_ in the front? |
| 16:06.04 | darkschneider | grub became gnu in 1999, p166 was around 1996 |
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| 16:07.19 | helen | pundit: no |
| 16:07.20 | darkschneider | lilo is 1992 (i think i'm unsure) |
| 16:07.49 | helen | darkschneider: ANd Debian is the same age as me. :) |
| 16:08.16 | darkschneider | mm actually i have no idea of debian first release, when it was? |
| 16:08.29 | darkschneider | (i was using slackware at the time and turbolinux before) |
| 16:08.39 | sts | does anybody know how i can get debian/sqeeze to boot an hetzner/eq6 successfully? do i need a special driver for the realtek nic? |
| 16:08.49 | helen | darkschneider: 1993 |
| 16:09.06 | darkschneider | tx |
| 16:09.20 | qrq | How force application to not change my screen resolution? |
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| 16:10.07 | helen | qrq: lol |
| 16:10.14 | qrq | I know. |
| 16:10.26 | qrq | I got problems with zsnes package. |
| 16:10.39 | qrq | I mean , it change my refresh rate. |
| 16:10.49 | qrq | Which is irritating. |
| 16:10.52 | helen | qrq: zsnes doesn't change the screen resolution. lol |
| 16:11.11 | qrq | In fullscreen mode it change refresh rate. |
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| 16:12.08 | qrq | When I turn off it change my refresh rate from 85 to 60. |
| 16:12.47 | helen | qrq: No it doesn't normally. |
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| 16:13.16 | qrq | Helen I use nouveau driver. |
| 16:13.27 | helen | oh |
| 16:13.29 | helen | no wonder |
| 16:13.31 | darkschneider | qrq: probably it does that for framerate sync problems because maybe there is no double buffering. Consider living with it and changing back resolution when you have done |
| 16:13.33 | qrq | So tell me which situation is normal :) |
| 16:13.34 | helen | I can't help you then. |
| 16:14.23 | qrq | I know , Im stupid , but I need help :) |
| 16:14.45 | qrq | 75 IQ makes my living harder :) |
| 16:14.49 | darkschneider | forcing a different framerate that is not multiple of the rendering rate will briing you flickering if you do not have double buffering. that is why zsnes is doing that |
| 16:14.53 | thewanderer1 | hmm, is running it in windowed mode out of the question? |
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| 16:15.26 | darkschneider | sorry "you have"/"program have" |
| 16:15.47 | thewanderer1 | actually, wrapping this in an xrandr+zsnes+xrandr back script is not too hard |
| 16:16.06 | qrq | Problem is , when I turn off zsnes refresh rate degrades to 60. |
| 16:16.12 | darkschneider | yeah i agree... that woudl be fastest smart and give right thing |
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| 16:16.15 | qrq | In zsnes it is 85. |
| 16:16.29 | qrq | Problem is , when I turn off zsnes , refresh rate degrades to 60. |
| 16:16.51 | darkschneider | qrq: mmm then i'm clueless, but consider using xrandr line to switch back |
| 16:17.19 | qrq | darkschneider Thanks I will google for it. |
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| 16:18.11 | darkschneider | for xrandr, just execute it from command line and see :) it's trivial to use :) (you can use grandr if you have time to lose witha gui) |
| 16:19.57 | qrq | darkschneider Nothing its trivial if you got 75 IQ :D |
| 16:20.12 | qrq | nothing is. |
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| 16:21.24 | darkschneider | if you are using linux over windows drones, you IQ is 175, that my test (and i jsut finished teaching to a boy with impaired learning abilities they call "retard". They are the retards, he learn like others, just need more patience) |
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| 16:23.19 | qrq | darkschneider I got no mathematical imagination. |
| 16:23.33 | qrq | Evertything is for me one big soup. |
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| 16:24.42 | qrq | Especially polynomials :D |
| 16:24.49 | darkschneider | i'm sad i cannot go on her eon debian, but it's exactly mathematics that i teach. You have the same skill as averagely others. You just did not practice them and you are way back in knowledge. That does not make your IQ 75, sorry, find another excuse :) You are smart as all we are here. |
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| 16:25.23 | qrq | darkschneider I would be really happy to agree. |
| 16:25.26 | darkschneider | and polynomials love you :) |
| 16:25.30 | qrq | But I simple cannot. |
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| 16:26.59 | qrq | And there is never too much excuses :D |
| 16:27.11 | qrq | I hope... |
| 16:27.58 | qrq | OK this is support channel. |
| 16:28.02 | qrq | Thanks. |
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| 16:48.23 | jelly-home | !test |
| 16:48.53 | dpkg | Test failed. |
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| 16:49.09 | nshi | hey all, if someone could help with : http://pastebin.com/87wDZZ2U it will be great :) |
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| 17:02.45 | thegladiator | i am planning to install debian |
| 17:02.56 | thegladiator | what should I go for - its an acer netbook |
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| 17:04.21 | TechDeskPing | go archlinux |
| 17:04.56 | thegladiator | hey debian channel right ? |
| 17:05.08 | maligor | I imagine someone will get kicked |
| 17:05.12 | Iridos | what do you mean what should you go for |
| 17:05.25 | TechDeskPing | :) |
| 17:05.36 | thegladiator | which iso image!! |
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| 17:06.05 | Iridos | netinstall if you have access to wired internet |
| 17:06.24 | thegladiator | nah i wud like usn |
| 17:06.26 | thegladiator | usb |
| 17:06.32 | Iridos | if you need to install over wireless, you probably need a firmware image, as firmware has been removed from regular debian |
| 17:06.40 | thegladiator | Oh |
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| 17:06.43 | nshi | hey all, if someone could help with : http://pastebin.com/87wDZZ2U < :) |
| 17:07.26 | Iridos | thegladiator, usually installs from cd/usb/whatever only install a base system from the netinstall iso, you install the rest directly from the net (which saves you downloading stuff you don't need in an image) |
| 17:07.27 | Strogg | I have a package that I have patched and installed. how do I prevent apt from upgrading over it? I know it's something to do with pinning, but I havent figure out what needs to change to make apt ignore it |
| 17:08.08 | thegladiator | what is the process for netinstall ? |
| 17:08.32 | Strogg | oooh. I think I got it. I have to specify which release I wanted to pin. |
| 17:08.48 | zykotick9 | nshi, i don't think you can use * in exports - for example to share with everything on a 192.168.1.* use: 192.168.1.0/24 |
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| 17:09.05 | porton | How to install a TTF font without going superuser? |
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| 17:10.50 | thegladiator | ok |
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| 17:11.26 | Iridos | nshi, look in the logs of the server? |
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| 17:11.30 | qrq | Is there any command to set permanent refresh rate? :D |
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| 17:12.53 | Iridos | zykotick9, manpage says you can use * on hostnames and it matches dots, too, but not on IPs... |
| 17:13.42 | Iridos | porton, put it in ~/.fonts/ |
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| 17:14.31 | zykotick9 | Iridos, ? i seem to remember i used to use * for exports, but I believe I've been forced to use ?CIDR for a while now. |
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| 17:17.02 | Iridos | zykotick9, haven't done anything with nfs for years and in the one machine still running, exports allowed access only for IPs |
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| 17:17.49 | zykotick9 | Iridos, that's why i recommended to nshi they use CIDR notation instead of * |
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| 17:18.41 | Iridos | I first wondered about that "*", too... but then thought: "that should work according to man?" |
| 17:19.13 | zykotick9 | man page failure - that's pretty uncommon ;) |
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| 17:19.40 | Iridos | naaah, manpages are always right |
| 17:19.59 | Iridos | when there's a disagreement between manpage and reality, it's reality which is wrong |
| 17:20.08 | zykotick9 | lol |
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| 17:25.36 | qrq | Helen. Solution was simple . zsnes && xrandr -r 85 |
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| 17:37.49 | helen | qrq: oh oh oh |
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| 17:42.48 | free_bullets | Hi, I'd like to copy an NTFS partition from one disk to the end of a GPT disk. Can I simply dd it with an offset to put it at the end of the disk? |
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| 17:43.28 | free_bullets | are there bytes at the end of the disk that shouldn't be overwritten? |
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| 17:44.39 | jaakkos | why not create the partition -> get block device, then use ntfsclone |
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| 17:47.22 | free_bullets | jaakkos: interesting. what's the difference between the two? does ntfsclone recreate the filesystem so unused blocks aren't copied? |
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| 17:47.45 | free_bullets | how could i create a partition at the end of my disk? |
| 17:48.06 | jaakkos | use eg. gparted |
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| 17:48.33 | jaakkos | yeah ntfsclone only copies blocks marked as used in the NTFS allocation bitmap |
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| 18:02.18 | ws2k3 | hello people i'm looking for a way to block some connections on my debian server. |
| 18:02.42 | ws2k3 | something like this if the connection speed is above 20 kbps then close the connect and block the ip adres for like 7 days something like that |
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| 18:09.01 | _linuxftw | Hi guys I'm having some issues with `crontab -e` on non root users. When a user types `crontab -e` a temporary file is created in /tmp/crontab.rK4ka4/crontab, however the temporary file is owned by root, so the user can't edit it. Any ideas? |
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| 18:11.25 | ws2k3 | something like this if the connection speed is above 20 kbps then close the connect and block the ip adres for like 7 days something like that |
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| 18:25.21 | Iridos | _linuxftw, works fine on my squeeze. What debian is this? |
| 18:25.28 | ksx4system | is it possible to install base kde only? not the full software compilation |
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| 18:26.02 | _linuxftw | Iridos, 6.0.1. I think the problem is to do with odd permissions that got setup a while ago by mistake. |
| 18:26.38 | Iridos | ksx4system, yes. Uninstall the meta-package, unmark packages that you want to keep from being installed "automatically" (via the dependency) |
| 18:26.56 | Iridos | dpkg, install kde |
| 18:26.57 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, the 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > KDE > Install". See also <KDE>. |
| 18:27.32 | ksx4system | Iridos: thanks but i get lots of errors meaning nothing... I can pastebin it here |
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| 18:27.59 | babilen | ksx4system: http://paste.debian.net please |
| 18:28.11 | Iridos | babilen, you'Re soooo picky! |
| 18:28.22 | babilen | hehe |
| 18:28.32 | ksx4system | babilen: still, that's a pastebin-style site. I prefer wklej.org however |
| 18:28.34 | free_bullets | What does this error mean? "Virtual packages like 'fdisk' can't be removed" |
| 18:28.58 | babilen | ksx4system: Everyhting is fine as long as you don't paste into the channel. :) |
| 18:29.30 | babilen | free_bullets: Exactly that -- What are you trying to do? |
| 18:29.45 | babilen | !tell free_bullets -about virtual package |
| 18:29.51 | free_bullets | babilen: was gonna remove fdisk in favor of gdisk |
| 18:30.17 | ksx4system | babilen, Iridos: http://paste.debian.net/140996/ |
| 18:30.20 | babilen | free_bullets: Just install gdisk, you don't have to remove fdisk :) |
| 18:30.26 | _linuxftw | Iridos, I've fixed the problem myself. /usr/bin/crontab was set to -rwsr-xr-x instead of -rwxr-sr-x |
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| 18:30.43 | ksx4system | I even forced squeeze to be 100% sure that it'll use squeeze packages |
| 18:31.40 | babilen | ksx4system: Please also add your sources.list + the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy kde-core kde-standard" (and other applicable packages) |
| 18:31.48 | ksx4system | ok |
| 18:31.58 | Iridos | judd, versions kde-standard |
| 18:32.00 | judd | Package: kde-standard on i386 -- squeeze: 5:66; sid: 5:70; wheezy: 5:70 |
| 18:32.45 | babilen | ksx4system: "apt-cache policy kde-plasma-desktop" (but I guess that you get the idea) |
| 18:32.48 | Iridos | judd, versions kde-core |
| 18:32.49 | judd | Package: kde-core on i386 -- lenny: 5:48; squeeze: 5:66 |
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| 18:33.28 | babilen | brb |
| 18:33.36 | ksx4system | babilen, Iridos: http://paste.debian.net/140998/ |
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| 18:35.57 | _Tomo_ | #flood |
| 18:35.59 | ksx4system | I'm trying to install KDE and if it's stable enough to use I'm going to remove XFCE. |
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| 18:36.34 | boudiccas | ksx4system; define 'stable'? |
| 18:36.47 | Iridos | boudiccas, it's something where you keep cows and horses in |
| 18:36.54 | boudiccas | lol |
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| 18:37.50 | Iridos | also sometimes sheep |
| 18:37.51 | ksx4system | boudiccas: well, under 4.3 it wasn't really good. then i switched from openSUSE 11.x to Ubuntu |
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| 18:38.40 | ksx4system | now I'm going to switch all my boxes to Debian (less hassle, in most cases it just works very stable) |
| 18:38.50 | Iridos | ksx4system, [...] and "apt-cache policy kde-core kde-standard" |
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| 18:39.59 | ksx4system | Iridos: http://paste.debian.net/141001/ |
| 18:40.05 | Iridos | the output so far doesn't tell... only I guess you're mixing with wheezy and that's the problem... /msg dpkg mixing stable and unstable |
| 18:40.07 | ksx4system | perhaps something's wrong with my pinning |
| 18:40.22 | Iridos | yeah, like you're using any |
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| 18:41.13 | Iridos | right... you got kde-standard from wheezy and that's why now apt-get borks when you try to force stable |
| 18:41.16 | ksx4system | Iridos: well, my goal was using -t wheezy just to force using newer apps sometimes |
| 18:41.37 | Iridos | well, seems you failed in (not) doing so for kde |
| 18:41.56 | Iridos | ksx4system, well, try first using aptitude instead of apt-get |
| 18:41.58 | boudiccas | ksx4system; soundds like you've got a borked system or you've cocked it up |
| 18:42.15 | ksx4system | Iridos: why aptitude? |
| 18:42.23 | Iridos | use apt-show-versions to have it try to figure out what packages you have from where |
| 18:42.26 | Iridos | dpkg, why aptitude |
| 18:42.26 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. lenny->squeeze). Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
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| 18:42.33 | ksx4system | boudiccas: indedd it is a bit messy ;) |
| 18:42.37 | ksx4system | indeed* |
| 18:43.31 | a-l-e | i have a binary only application (to create a send photo booklets)... the application is 32 bit and my system 64 bit... any chance to get it to work? |
| 18:43.49 | a-l-e | it's a qt based application... |
| 18:45.29 | ksx4system | Iridos: LOL, it wasn't a good idea (aptitude)... it wants me to install MySQL server |
| 18:45.54 | babilen | ksx4system: fwiw -- Mixing stable with anything but backports is not really a good idea. The sane way of obtaining newer software from wheezy/sid is to backport it manually. "/msg dpkg ssb" explains how to do that. I guess that you have to remove KDE related packages that you've installed from wheezy and take it from there. Another way would be to just run testing, but you will run into problems eventually. |
| 18:46.10 | thewanderer1 | ksx4system, KDE requires MySQL, but it only runs the embedded server I think |
| 18:46.46 | Iridos | and I'm pretty sure it was a good idea... |
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| 18:47.09 | ksx4system | Iridos: http://paste.debian.net/141002/ |
| 18:47.36 | babilen | ksx4system: MySQL might be needed for akonadi/nepomuk |
| 18:47.50 | ksx4system | well, what if I don't need them? |
| 18:48.01 | boudiccas | ksx4system; tough |
| 18:48.10 | thewanderer1 | ksx4system, alas, Akonadi is now part of KDE the same way that Qt is... |
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| 18:48.57 | ksx4system | so maybe it'll be easier to run a clean install? but it still means lots of work (power usage, wi-fi etc - it's a netbook) |
| 18:49.34 | ksx4system | and I'm running my own kernel (a bit newer, much lighter) so it's going to be shitload of work :( |
| 18:49.59 | thewanderer1 | ksx4system, nope :P |
| 18:50.09 | ksx4system | thewanderer1: ? |
| 18:50.33 | babilen | ksx4system: You can get a .39 kernel from backports fwiw |
| 18:50.41 | thewanderer1 | keep what you have, just install KDE |
| 18:50.57 | babilen | Indeed, but clean up the mess first. |
| 18:51.04 | ksx4system | babilen: but it's not .35 carefully stipped down for my hardware |
| 18:51.04 | thewanderer1 | or maybe you'd prefer LXDE? good for a netbook |
| 18:51.33 | babilen | ksx4system: I don't see why that should be necessary. |
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| 18:51.51 | ksx4system | thewanderer1: I'm familiar with LXDE but it's hard to make it friend with Compiz... KDE just has its KWin (which works like a charm) |
| 18:51.58 | Iridos | I don't see what "stripping down" (or stipping down as it might be) does for you except preserve a few MB of space on the harddisk |
| 18:52.12 | babilen | +1 |
| 18:52.54 | ksx4system | Iridos: tell me that backport kernel uses bfs scheduler patch by Con Kalivas and I migrate to it |
| 18:53.01 | ksx4system | I'll * |
| 18:53.09 | thewanderer1 | ksx4system, probably not, but it has cgroups |
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| 18:53.51 | ksx4system | well... kernel isn't that important now. any ideas how to clean this whole mess? |
| 18:54.15 | ksx4system | thewanderer1: btw with any of Debian's kernels my netbook doesn't want to hibernate. with my own it does |
| 18:54.19 | Iridos | well, we told you what to do about the kde thing |
| 18:54.37 | ksx4system | aptitude? it still wants files from wheezy |
| 18:54.38 | Iridos | and I told you to figure out how big your mess is using apt-show-versions |
| 18:55.19 | Iridos | not if you tell it to -t squeeze or remove testing from your sources.list |
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| 18:57.17 | ksx4system | Iridos: I removed wheezy from sources.list. |
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| 19:00.33 | Iridos | ksx4system, and your pinning is all messed up. wheezy has a priority of 500, backports of 100, squeeze-updates of 100, LOTS of stuff 990, same priority that only security.debian.org should have... |
| 19:00.56 | a-l-e | ok, installed the 32 bit compatibilty layer and it now works! |
| 19:01.00 | a-l-e | have a nice evening |
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| 19:02.24 | fesafder | hello how can i find the config file ntpdate is using ? |
| 19:02.49 | ksx4system | Iridos: KDE installs now, from squeeze repo of course. as mentioned above I removed wheezy's one. weird thing is that aptitude wanted me to remove my music player (Clementine, latest .deb from author's website) |
| 19:03.23 | cookiemon5ter | fesafder: dpkg -L <packagename> |
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| 19:04.20 | Iridos | fesafder, or you look in /etc/ for files that start with "ntp" :) |
| 19:06.12 | fesafder | ok i think i found it but ntpdate keep giving me "no servers can be used, exiting" |
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| 19:09.04 | Iridos | err |
| 19:09.12 | Iridos | ntpdate is obsolete anyway, use ntpd now |
| 19:09.25 | Iridos | didn't read the q carefully |
| 19:09.28 | Iridos | dpkg, ntpdate |
| 19:09.29 | dpkg | ntpdate is an obsolete and unmaintained program to set a system clock via <NTP>. Just install the ntp package instead. Since Lenny, ntp's default configuration files (NTPD_OPTS='-g' in /etc/default/ntp, 'iburst' option for default servers in /etc/ntp.conf) make ntpdate unnecessary. See also <why not ntpdate>. |
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| 19:12.36 | fesafder | so if i install ntp it will keep my clock sync automatically right ? |
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| 19:13.58 | Mogget | you have to tell it which server it should check against right? |
| 19:13.59 | Iridos | it always used to do that anyway... but since lenny it will re-sync at its startup, so it'll also work if the system doesn't preserve time |
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| 19:14.14 | Iridos | Mogget, it's preconfigured to use some debian servers |
| 19:15.06 | Mogget | I realised that I am doing the same error here. So if i wish to sync against my universitys NTP server. How would one do that? |
| 19:15.14 | Iridos | actually not 100% correct... set up to use some debian DNS aliases |
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| 19:16.00 | Iridos | Mogget, edit /etc/ntp.conf ... but really using the pre-configured DNS aliases seems to "just work", so I wouldn't bother |
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| 19:19.16 | Mogget | ok, i just purged ntpdate and installed ntp instead. Hopefully this will better things for me. My system clock can be almost an hour wrong at the end of the day |
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| 19:22.24 | TechDeskPing | config localtime or utc |
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| 19:23.01 | Mogget | I suspect it has something with the xen server I am running on. It is heavily overloaded at times. |
| 19:24.02 | tomodachi | Mogget: xen has had clock skeewing for years, I usually detach the clock from dom0 and use ntp for each domU |
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| 19:24.22 | tomodachi | Mogget: at least the previous version of debian had this issue. |
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| 19:26.57 | Samkov | hey all I am havin a real difficulty using gawk. Basically I have a txt file with fields, and I need to search the fields and print the output |
| 19:27.26 | Mogget | tomodachi: good to know, then i don't have to worry about that. |
| 19:27.29 | Samkov | for example I am trying to find out from my .txt file which state had the highest # of presidents |
| 19:28.14 | Jasonn | Dagger3: hey, you around? |
| 19:30.20 | Dagger3 | I am. no luck with the last set of commands I gave? |
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| 19:31.16 | Jasonn | Dagger3: I didnt get them last night, I was off to a party, and noticed I hadnt configured xchat on my new comp to enble infinite scrollback |
| 19:31.38 | Jasonn | Dagger3: well, I mean the last ones I got and performed didnt work |
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| 19:33.41 | Iridos | Samkov, there's #awk (and for more general scripting #bash) and I think they'd appreciate if you can state the exact problem clearly, including an example-line of your textfile... and the highest number in e.g. column 4 could be most easily found with sort -nk4 |tail -1 |
| 19:34.46 | Dagger3 | http://pastebin.com/g9Sjnimf |
| 19:35.13 | Jasonn | looks |
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| 19:35.48 | Dagger3 | erm... the ones using :db00: obviously aren't going to work |
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| 19:36.30 | Darlina_16 | I have a problem. |
| 19:36.39 | Darlina_16 | I'm going to pastebin it. |
| 19:36.44 | Dagger3 | `ip addr add 2001:41d0:1:a82a::1/64 dev eth0; ip -6 route add default via 2001:41d0:1:a8ff:ff:ff:ff:ff dev eth0` these are the ones that may work |
| 19:37.44 | Jasonn | Dagger3: #ipv6 you say |
| 19:37.45 | Jasonn | Dagger3: Im gonna try to call them and ask for the router IP address, god help me if they only speak french x.x |
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| 19:39.04 | Dagger3 | right... let's see what they say |
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| 19:40.42 | Darlina_16 | http://pastebin.com/yHbGQ7Y1 <--- I need help on step 5, everytime I type in the directory it says no such file or directory, is there any solution to this problem? |
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| 19:41.34 | Darlina_16 | http://pastebin.com/yHbGQ7Y1 <--- I need help on step 5, everytime I type in the directory it says no such file or directory, is there any solution to this problem? |
| 19:41.37 | Darlina_16 | oops |
| 19:41.39 | Darlina_16 | My bbad. |
| 19:42.17 | joltcan | Darlina_16: it says that because there is no directory called cd /home/ircd/ircd |
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| 19:43.03 | joltcan | Darlina_16: I assume you are trying to install your own irc server? in that case I guess you want to "cd /home/ircd" and then run ./ircd, or just type "/home/ircd/ircd" without the cd |
| 19:43.29 | Darlina_16 | so can I type mkdir /home/ircd/ircd? |
| 19:43.33 | Darlina_16 | hmm.. |
| 19:43.53 | joltcan | Darlina_16: Yes, but that sounds weird. Why do you want two folders called ircd? |
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| 19:44.05 | ompaul | more sensible would be /usr/local/bin/ircd |
| 19:44.25 | raboof | is it OK to submit a WNPP RFP bug for a project with a license that might be considered non-DFSG-free? |
| 19:44.28 | joltcan | Or to apt-get install your ircd instead of doing all the manual label |
| 19:44.35 | joltcan | labour I mean |
| 19:46.25 | ompaul | raboof: such a package would live in the non-free repo, what ja think? |
| 19:46.48 | Darlina_16 | Ugh |
| 19:47.13 | raboof | ompaul: I think so, yes. (it's not *entirely* clear whether the license is DFSG-free, but perhaps i'd rather stick it in non-free and avoid the discussion entirely :) ) |
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| 19:47.41 | ompaul | go for it |
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| 19:47.49 | raboof | ok great thanks |
| 19:48.19 | Darlina_16 | For some reason I cant seem to get the file to change directory or work. |
| 19:48.21 | Darlina_16 | Hmm.. |
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| 19:48.36 | Darlina_16 | It's something I'm doing wrong. |
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| 19:49.18 | ompaul | Darlina_16: apt-get install ircd and be done with it |
| 19:49.34 | Darlina_16 | apt-get install ircd? |
| 19:49.36 | Darlina_16 | like that. |
| 19:49.38 | Darlina_16 | Hm.. |
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| 19:50.27 | ompaul | Darlina_16: you have to get a real program answer for what ircd you want - go apt-cache search it and then work from there |
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| 19:51.46 | jelly-home | ompaul: there is no package named "ircd" |
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| 19:53.04 | ompaul | jelly-home: keep reading ;-) you have to choose one - I assume that ircd is something they want branded by its full name |
| 19:53.14 | hate29 | I've tried to get rid of screen tearing. I've installed compiz and changed refresh rate to same as in nvidia-settings and enabled all sync to blank settings. Also disabled compositing. Still I see tearing. Any help? |
| 19:53.50 | ompaul | Darlina_16: so slightly more verbose >> apt-get search ircd << then >> apt-get install $choice << |
| 19:53.53 | jelly-home | ompaul: which one is correct? |
| 19:54.19 | ompaul | jelly-home: the one you want to install ? or am I missing something |
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| 19:54.57 | jelly-home | what I'm hinting at, is there are dozens of irc servers and each is a bit of a pain to set up |
| 19:55.23 | ompaul | jelly-home: and if the op is looking for an ircd that that is the debian way |
| 19:55.29 | Darlina_16 | root@joey2:~# apt-get search ircd |
| 19:55.29 | Darlina_16 | E: Invalid operation search |
| 19:55.29 | Darlina_16 | root@joey2:~# |
| 19:55.32 | ompaul | then they pick one do some reasding |
| 19:55.38 | Darlina_16 | that's what it said. |
| 19:55.43 | Darlina_16 | I need to |
| 19:55.45 | zykotick9 | Darlina_16, "apt-cache search ircd" |
| 19:55.46 | Darlina_16 | get rid of root |
| 19:55.47 | ompaul | Darlina_16: cos I am a muppet |
| 19:55.53 | ompaul | Darlina_16: apt-cache |
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| 19:55.58 | ompaul | apt-get install |
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| 19:59.42 | Darlina_16 | http://pastebin.com/NfheHiQd |
| 20:00.03 | Darlina_16 | Look at that pastebin, I think I installed something, |
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| 20:02.58 | ompaul | Darlina_16: you did |
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| 20:03.23 | Darlina_16 | So what do I do after I have installed it? |
| 20:03.25 | ompaul | as most people here would not be running ircds I'm guessing you now need to read the docs :) |
| 20:03.32 | Darlina_16 | k |
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| 20:11.50 | phenom | Anyone familiar with powertop and know if this amount of wakeups hrtimer_wakeup is normal? 1.7 ms/s 156.9 Timer hrtimer_wakeu |
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| 20:16.05 | file-exists-p | phenoms you should get less than 10 |
| 20:16.14 | file-exists-p | if there are no kbd / mouse / wireless related interrupt |
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| 20:44.57 | martianlobster | can someone remind me how to grep for the pattern -> |
| 20:45.03 | martianlobster | grep wants to treat > as an option |
| 20:45.53 | rotflcopter | "\>" ? |
| 20:46.29 | martianlobster | rotflcopter: but what about the - sign? I want to look for -> not > |
| 20:46.40 | valdyn | martianlobster: "\->" |
| 20:47.01 | valdyn | martianlobster: \ is the escape character |
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| 20:47.14 | martianlobster | grep '\->' |
| 20:47.16 | martianlobster | that works |
| 20:47.17 | martianlobster | thanks |
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| 20:47.32 | ompaul | wot |
| 20:47.39 | martianlobster | <--- now addding "grep '\->'" to my linux notes |
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| 20:47.59 | ompaul | grep -\> |
| 20:48.11 | Drectic | Is gnome 3 fully transitioned yet? |
| 20:48.12 | valdyn | martianlobster: why? \ is the regular escape sign, theres not much special about this pattern |
| 20:48.13 | rotflcopter | though ... |
| 20:48.22 | rotflcopter | '' should make - literal |
| 20:48.48 | valdyn | rotflcopter: it does not |
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| 20:48.54 | rotflcopter | i see |
| 20:49.17 | martianlobster | I get stuck on this once per month, I can never remember it, LOL, that is why I am adding to my notes |
| 20:49.18 | valdyn | rotflcopter: or it does, but making it a literal does not make grep treat is as a character |
| 20:49.32 | valdyn | rotflcopter: grep sees the - pure, but grep needs to see the escape sign |
| 20:49.38 | rotflcopter | echo "gg->fdf" | sed -n '/->/p' |
| 20:49.39 | ompaul | Drectic: no |
| 20:49.43 | rotflcopter | well it works with sed |
| 20:50.08 | valdyn | rotflcopter: its up to each program to do whatever with the literal "\-" |
| 20:50.14 | rotflcopter | aham |
| 20:50.17 | Tramp | grep -e <pattern> |
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| 20:50.47 | valdyn | rotflcopter: we're not escaping the shell but were escaping from greps parser |
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| 20:51.22 | rotflcopter | kk |
| 20:52.19 | sedulous | How can I tell dpkg-buildpackage to use a different gcc version? |
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| 20:53.55 | ompaul | sedulous: lets say you have a second version of a cc sitting in /usr/local/bin/cc/mycc |
| 20:54.16 | ompaul | sedulous: export whateverIwantocallit=/usr/local/bin/cc/mycc |
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| 20:55.03 | rotflcopter | ;/ |
| 20:55.11 | rotflcopter | echo "gg0-3>fdf" | grep "0-3>" |
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| 20:55.58 | sedulous | ompaul: i just realized that the package i want to build overrides the CC environment variable. i've edited the rules file manually now |
| 20:56.33 | sedulous | (WINE has a bug with GCC 4.6) |
| 20:56.45 | l0rd_3le | spain |
| 20:56.52 | rotflcopter | so grep does not recieve the "" ? |
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| 20:58.21 | rotflcopter | so even this works |
| 20:58.22 | rotflcopter | echo "gg->fdf" | grep -E "()->" |
| 20:59.20 | rotflcopter | echo "gg->fdf" | grep -E "[-]>" |
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| 21:20.57 | Iridos | rotflcopter, the quotes are there to protect from interpretation by the shell, but the "-" is special to grep itself, so quoting won't help |
| 21:21.33 | Iridos | martianlobster, I would suggest for pattern starting with a minus, you use e.g. grep -- -bla |
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| 21:26.00 | rotflcopter | Iridos<< yeah |
| 21:26.22 | rotflcopter | i was wondering if grep got the quotes or not |
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| 21:26.41 | Iridos | no, the quotes are for bash, there is nothing to wonder |
| 21:27.03 | Iridos | you should read some basics about quoting |
| 21:27.23 | rotflcopter | clear;e=eval\ ;p=printf\ ;x="$e$p\$";u=USER;n=NAME;r=$(stty -g);stty raw -echo;read -sn1 -p \[$($x$u)@$(${x}HOST$n):~\]$\ ;while read -n1 a;do $p \\$($p '%03o' $(($($p'%d' "'"$($p'%c' "$a")"")-1)));sleep .$(($RANDOM*2));done< <($p\%q 'Uif!Nbusjy!ibt!zpv!'"$($p'%s' "$(grep $($x$u$n) /etc/passwd |awk -F: '{print $5}')" | while read -n1 y;do $p'%c' "$($p\\$($p'%03o' $(($($p'%d' "'$($p'%c' "$y")")+1))))";done;)"'///');stty "$r";$p\\n |
| 21:27.36 | Iridos | argh, and stop pasting crap in here |
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| 21:27.43 | rotflcopter | its bash |
| 21:27.48 | rotflcopter | quoted fine |
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| 21:27.59 | Iridos | a good place to read on it would be e.g. http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Quote.html |
| 21:28.10 | rotflcopter | thanks |
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| 21:29.32 | ksx4system | any ideas why KDE broke wi-fi? it says bad password (I'm 100% sure that it's good, I triple checked it both on my netbook and router) |
| 21:30.31 | Iridos | (as you might have seen, as it's from the topic of #bash, together with the advice USE MORE QUOTES) |
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| 21:32.01 | rotflcopter | Iridos<< which part you dont like? |
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| 21:36.24 | Marcocanc | hello |
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| 21:36.56 | Iridos | rotflcopter, the part where you paste it into #debian |
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| 21:37.48 | rotflcopter | you still have 1TB remaining |
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| 21:39.07 | Marcocanc | hi I have debian hosting on a server where I got SSH access. The hosting site only provides 1 ftp account, but they say they have proftpd installed but don't give support on how to use it. Now I'd need to create some ftp accounts. Can anyone help me with that? |
| 21:39.21 | LDungeon | I've got a 130 .mov video files with non-descriptive filenames, if I open them up (say with VLC) there's a title associated with each one of them... what tool can I use to read that tilte information from a shell script? |
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| 21:39.37 | Frenato | ciao a tutti |
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| 21:39.58 | Marcocanc | @Frentao Ciao! W italia :P |
| 21:40.01 | Dulak | Marcocanc: set up sftp for system users instead, ftp is unsecure and a prime vector to be cracked. |
| 21:40.02 | helen | Frenato: tutti? |
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| 21:40.13 | pipeline | LDungeon: mediainfo |
| 21:40.35 | helen | Marcocanc, Frenato: English in here pls. |
| 21:40.42 | Marcocanc | sure, sorry |
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| 21:41.13 | Marcocanc | so does anyone in here know about proftpd on debian? |
| 21:41.33 | Dulak | Marcocanc: sftp is just like ftp but it uses ssh, if you have ssh, you can sftp. |
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| 21:42.14 | Marcocanc | ok, but I want to make some ftp or sftp accounts for friends linked to certain folders |
| 21:42.34 | Marcocanc | so they can access them with a ftp client like filezilla |
| 21:43.21 | Dulak | Marcocanc: I just told you ftp is not secure, the password gets sent it plain text. Get sftp working and send them a link to winscp as a free sftp client. |
| 21:44.03 | Iridos | there's a package proftpd-doc which contains lots and lots of docu in /usr/share/doc/proftpd-doc/ |
| 21:44.19 | Marcocanc | doesn't it so sftp automatically if I connect to port 22? |
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| 21:44.47 | Iridos | Dulak, I don't think you can have several people use sftp on the same account, each with their own password |
| 21:44.53 | Dulak | Marcocanc: you can install the scponly shell so they can only transfer files, and you can hardlink a folder into their home dir to give them access |
| 21:44.54 | Iridos | which is what he seems to want |
| 21:45.21 | Dulak | Iridos: no but you can use multiple system users and hardlinks to share the same folder to multiple users |
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| 21:46.41 | Marcocanc | cool I'm gonna inform a bit about scponly shell |
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| 21:46.52 | Iridos | you can do that only if you have root access, which I'm not sure he has from the description |
| 21:47.04 | Marcocanc | nope I don't... |
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| 21:47.27 | Marcocanc | I do have shell access though |
| 21:47.36 | Marcocanc | http://www.feralhosting.com/features |
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| 21:47.43 | Marcocanc | that's the specs |
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| 21:47.50 | Dulak | I thought you were on a VPS from how you described it, my bad Marco |
| 21:48.53 | Iridos | Marcocanc, look at /usr/share/doc/proftpd-doc/examples/sample-configurations/virtual.conf |
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| 21:50.59 | Marcocanc | don't have a proftpd-doc folder. there's a proftpd, proftpd-basic, proftpd-mod-Idap, proftpd-mod-mysql and a proftpd-mod-pgsql folder |
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| 21:52.20 | Iridos | well... http://colossus.apana.org.au/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/doc/proftpd-doc/examples/sample-configurations/complex-virtual.conf.gz |
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| 21:54.12 | Marcocanc | in the folders there's just changelogs and copiright files |
| 21:54.29 | Marcocanc | copyright* |
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| 21:56.14 | dvs | !wb |
| 21:56.16 | dpkg | thanks, dvs. It's good to be back. |
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| 21:59.00 | Marcocanc | oh no, iridos is gone |
| 21:59.23 | sanduz2 | i compiled a web server and it seems to run from root. when the package is installed, it runs as www-data but i needed the newer version. how do i make it run as user www-data? |
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| 21:59.47 | sanduz2 | it has an init script to make it start at boot too |
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| 22:01.55 | Marcocanc | can anyone help me with proftpd on debian? |
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| 22:02.47 | pipeline | people who offer that kind of one on one typically want serious bucks Marcocanc |
| 22:02.52 | pipeline | ask a specific question, see if anyone answers |
| 22:03.02 | pipeline | if no one does, wait an hour and try again |
| 22:03.18 | Marcocanc | ok |
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| 22:04.05 | Marcocanc | can anyone help me setting up ftp accounts using proftpd on a debian with no root access but SSH access? |
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| 22:04.52 | valdyn | !documentation |
| 22:04.53 | dpkg | Before asking, please read the documentation. Documentation isn't always easy to read, but that doesn't excuse you from (a) trying and (b) sending patches to improve the docs. If you don't do this, expect to be told to RTFM by impatient volunteers. Dick Brandon said that "Documentation is like sex: When it is good, it is very, very, good. And when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Ask me about <finding docs>, <manuals>. |
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| 22:06.06 | valdyn | Marcocanc: root is an account or you could see a level of privilegues, ssh is an access method. One has nothing to do with the other |
| 22:06.21 | Marcocanc | ok |
| 22:06.50 | valdyn | Marcocanc: but if you dont have root then you cant set up ftp either |
| 22:06.55 | thewanderer1 | sanduz2, why do you need a newer version? |
| 22:07.08 | Marcocanc | proftpd is already installed |
| 22:07.35 | sanduz2 | thewanderer1, a component only works in the newer version (debian package version has a bug) |
| 22:07.46 | Marcocanc | in my hosting provider's support they say it's possible and some did already, but they won't give support for that |
| 22:08.03 | thewanderer1 | sanduz2, and there is no updated version in backports / testing / sid ? |
| 22:08.15 | erawfish_ | Marcocanc: anyone who has ssh access can already use sftp which is a much better protocol than ftp |
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| 22:08.52 | sanduz2 | thewanderer1, i couldnt find one but i might be doing it wrong since ive never used backports n such |
| 22:09.00 | sanduz2 | thewanderer1, its cherokee web server |
| 22:09.02 | erawfish_ | sanduz2: which package is it? |
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| 22:09.18 | thewanderer1 | ah, that one is still rough around the edges, yes :) |
| 22:09.27 | erawfish_ | ,versions cherokee |
| 22:09.28 | judd | Package: cherokee on i386 -- lenny: 0.7.2-4; squeeze: 1.0.8-5; wheezy: 1.2.2-2; sid: 1.2.100-1 |
| 22:09.36 | erawfish_ | !tell sanduz2 about ssb |
| 22:09.57 | thewanderer1 | well, does the wheezy one solve the problem? it should be possible to recompile the wheezy package for squeeze... |
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| 22:10.56 | sanduz2 | erawfish_, thanks. thewanderer1 im not sure, it might be too close to call heh, i remember it being fixed around 1.2.2 or something |
| 22:11.28 | sanduz2 | either way though, how is it that packages can run things as www-data but compiled binaries and such dont? |
| 22:11.35 | sanduz2 | just out of curiosity |
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| 22:12.24 | valdyn | sanduz2: root can run anything runnable as any user, "compiled binaries" is a silly idea |
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| 22:13.05 | sanduz2 | valdyn, is it a bash command? so i would just edit the init script? |
| 22:13.16 | sanduz2 | and thats how they do it too? |
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| 22:13.20 | valdyn | sanduz2: look at debians apache2 init script |
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| 22:14.12 | valdyn | sanduz2: probably not, maybe apache2 does this. As you could see if you had debians apache theres one process running as root |
| 22:14.24 | Dulak | sanduz2: you can configure a compiled binary to run as any user you want, www-data is just the debian convention for web servers |
| 22:14.54 | nedzadk | hey guys does anyone now any way how can i change vid and pid on wifi usb device, except using iwpriv, cause it doesnt work, i tried compiling couple drivers but nothing, no errors and just cant change pid and vid |
| 22:15.01 | valdyn | sanduz2: but this is off topic, this is a debian support channel, not #apache2 |
| 22:15.04 | sanduz2 | valdyn, sorry to be a pain but how do i look at the initscript without installing it? |
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| 22:17.20 | andref | hi one small question: I've got a service "trac"(a python-based server) running from user called "andref"(user andref hs no default shell). I've decided to make a little mess in trac's plugin by executing a shell command, why this: call("/usr/bin/do-sth") does not work, any idea? |
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| 22:17.42 | andref | I'm not sure if it is deabians issue or python issue |
| 22:17.47 | andref | any hints |
| 22:17.48 | andref | ]? |
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| 22:19.44 | andref | I want to notice that /bin/ls seems to be working |
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| 22:21.33 | andref | the output is sh: no such command |
| 22:23.24 | andref | I think it might be a securitie issue - I want o know if it is |
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| 22:23.58 | phogg | andref: is the do-sth file executable? What is its first line? |
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| 22:24.13 | peterrooney | sanduz2: apt-get --download-only install <pkg> ; dpkg --extract (--some --more --options) |
| 22:24.37 | sanduz2 | peterrooney, awesome thank you |
| 22:25.03 | peterrooney | sanduz2: you're welcome. there is also the #httpd channel, for discussing apache |
| 22:25.14 | andref | phogg: do sth is actualy gnome-web-photo |
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| 22:25.48 | phogg | andref: a script? |
| 22:25.58 | andref | no a program |
| 22:26.02 | erawfish_ | andref: how does it not work? |
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| 22:26.04 | andref | It is not mine |
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| 22:26.46 | andref | erawfish_: it takes a html file and produces pdf/png/jpeg |
| 22:26.54 | andref | file |
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| 22:27.27 | qubits | erawfish_: I tried lining stage 1 to stage 2 but that didn't help |
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| 22:28.10 | qubits | I even reset my bios to defaults |
| 22:28.10 | andref | erawfish_: I tryed to do it with tmp files |
| 22:28.14 | qubits | http://old.nabble.com/fixing-the-%22grub-loading-stage1.5%22-hanging-error-td13434214.html |
| 22:28.28 | andref | erawfish_: and with normal files |
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| 22:29.52 | andref | I want to know if debian as such think that you cannot run /usr/bin/ commands from service ? |
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| 22:30.20 | qubits | Do you know where I could get some advanced support erawfish_, unless you think you can work with me a bit more on this issue. |
| 22:30.21 | Styles | apt-get upgrade (mysql upgrading) and is now failing :( I'm not sure why and really don't want to break anything http://privatepaste.com/53a5b75646 |
| 22:30.40 | RichiH | hmm, is there a script to set file mtime from exif data? |
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| 22:31.37 | tharkun | RichiH: IIRC there is cli that can read exif data, the rest should be trivial to do |
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| 22:35.22 | tharkun | Gentlemen how do you call a backup that has only the changes madde to a file e.g. on the last 24 hours? |
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| 22:36.48 | thewanderer1 | tharkun, incremental? |
| 22:36.54 | Dulak | tharkun: well you can't really do that without some sort of revision control, but you can say write a script that finds all files modified in the last 24 hours, and then back those up, but to get just the changes you need a lot more than a simple script. |
| 22:37.40 | qubits | Can anyone help me with a grub problem I'm having with my hardware? |
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| 22:38.21 | qubits | I've tried grub legacy and grub 1.98 and reinstalled 4 times with different partitioning schemes. I even zeroed my harddrive as far in as 1.9 gigabytes. It's a 200gb IDE on a 40 pin cable in UDMA 33 mode |
| 22:38.30 | qubits | grub is hanging on loading stage1.5 |
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| 22:40.46 | RichiH | tharkun: yah, i already hacked it up, myself |
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| 22:43.21 | vjacob | hi. what's a good channel to ask about current laptop / netbook / tablet book that would be compatible with Debian? |
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| 22:45.13 | thewanderer1 | vjacob, here, ##hardware, #linux or maybe http://forums.debian.net are decent places |
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| 22:46.31 | vjacob | cheers |
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| 22:46.54 | qubits | erawfish_: do you still recommend I create my partitions in fdisk instead of the debian installer? |
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| 22:47.25 | erawfish_ | I never did say that |
| 22:47.38 | erawfish_ | you said you used gparted when you didn't |
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| 22:50.46 | project2501b | hmm. apparently d-i "fails" when installing in large partitions |
| 22:51.11 | project2501b | or it could be that 20tb on a single domain controller takes up a long long time |
| 22:51.30 | project2501b | maybe i should submit a patch to make it more visual |
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| 22:54.31 | peterrooney | project2501b: lsof on vt2? |
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| 22:56.08 | bjacob | hello, i'm a developer on debian x86_64, i need to use the 'perf' profiler but it's confused by absence of frame pointers in debian binaries (like libc6). Can I either get packages with frame pointers, or a version of perf with DWARF support? |
| 22:56.42 | bjacob | note: i'm on wheezy (testing) |
| 22:56.49 | project2501b | peterrooney: yeah, sure that is a definite suggestion, but, why resort to that, when d-i can make a single conditional: if( partition > 20TB ) add -v to mkfs.ext3 flags. |
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| 23:06.53 | qubits | cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 23:06.59 | Marcocanc | who can help me: I need to run the ftpasswd tool which is a Perl script on a debian with SSH (no root priviledges ) |
| 23:07.09 | qubits | etc. I cannot reinstall grub2 from rescue mode due to this env errors |
| 23:07.17 | qubits | Can someone help me fixup my env so I can troubleshoot grub more |
| 23:07.37 | project2501b | qubits: look into your /etc/default/locales file |
| 23:07.44 | project2501b | it should not be empty |
| 23:08.24 | qubits | Error opening terminal: bterm. <- when running nano |
| 23:08.30 | qubits | using vi |
| 23:08.49 | qubits | there is just one thing: LANG="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 23:09.06 | qubits | I am in rescude mode project2501b |
| 23:09.07 | project2501b | you need three lines. let me get them for you |
| 23:09.11 | project2501b | doesn't matter |
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| 23:22.19 | andref | :q |
| 23:22.31 | andref | :> |
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| 23:28.18 | qubits | ok guys here is my fdisk -l my fstab and my grub.cfg http://paste.debian.net/141071 |
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| 23:31.05 | qwer123 | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lHSrts_thr |
| 23:31.08 | qwer123 | How to solve that? |
| 23:31.16 | qwer123 | missing package? |
| 23:32.07 | erawfish_ | libHSrts_thr doesn't sound like a normal lib name. more context? |
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| 23:32.49 | erawfish_ | qubits: fstab doesn't matter, grub.cfg doesn't matter. neither are neeeded at the point your problem happens |
| 23:32.54 | erawfish_ | needed or used |
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| 23:34.12 | qubits | Understood |
| 23:34.19 | qubits | It was by the request of another user |
| 23:34.40 | qubits | I just did a apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc and it said found initrd no errors etc |
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| 23:34.52 | qubits | now im going to reboot again and it will probably hang |
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| 23:34.57 | noodlr | hi |
| 23:35.16 | noodlr | anyone here good with configuring name-based vitual hosting with apache2? |
| 23:35.28 | qubits | I've done it |
| 23:36.27 | qubits | What's the question noodlr ? |
| 23:36.46 | erawfish_ | qubits: what's in your device.map? |
| 23:36.52 | qwer123 | erawfish_: http://pastebin.com/5mpd0Pa8 |
| 23:36.52 | noodlr | qubits, have you ever come across a weird problem with Opera web browser whereby the http://www.mysite.net works fine but the alias http://mysite.net gets sent to the isp for a search? |
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| 23:37.12 | qubits | in windows? |
| 23:37.28 | noodlr | qubits, I'm struggling to get a uniform and expected result with name-based virtual hosts |
| 23:37.29 | qubits | make sure you have under ServerAlis mysite.net |
| 23:37.30 | noodlr | nope |
| 23:37.39 | noodlr | Linux, both debian and ubuntu |
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| 23:37.56 | qubits | ping both, do the IP's match? |
| 23:38.07 | peterrooney | noodlr: there's quite a few ISP that fuck over NXDOMAIN results for their customers |
| 23:38.07 | erawfish_ | qwer123: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=HSrts_thr&mode=filename&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 23:38.15 | noodlr | qubits, I'll pastebin my sites-available profiles, if you wouldn't mind having a read? |
| 23:38.19 | peterrooney | noodlr: I hope you can pardon me for swearing. |
| 23:38.55 | qubits | go ahead |
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| 23:39.05 | noodlr | peterrooney, no worries but it shouldn't be going to the isp in the first place, the /etc/hosts is configured to point the address back at the localhost (127...) |
| 23:39.48 | qubits | erawfish_: GRUB loading. [CRLF] |
| 23:39.54 | qwer123 | erawfish_: thanks ;) |
| 23:40.08 | peterrooney | noodlr: oh, i see. my jump-to-conclusion muscles are overdeveloped. |
| 23:40.16 | JyZyXEL | interesting that vim-scripts package doesn't have c.vim plugin |
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| 23:41.36 | jhutchins_lt | noodlr: There is no default mechanism that routes an http request to <domain>.<tld> to www.<domain>.<tld>. You have to explicitly define both forms for them both to work. |
| 23:41.37 | Fritz09_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:42.27 | jhutchins_lt | There's also nothing that allows www.<domain>.<tld> to fall back to <domain>.<tld>, or any other service for that matter. |
| 23:42.44 | jhutchins_lt | Clever hard work is what makes it "just work". |
| 23:42.54 | noodlr | qubits, http://pastebin.com/G067sTMP |
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| 23:44.04 | noodlr | jhutchins, I defined both variants in hosts and as ServerName/ServerAlias within the profiles in apache2/sites-available(/enabled) |
| 23:44.18 | Dulak | noodlr: if it's apache you can ScriptAlias all subdomains to domain.tld like: ScriptAlias *.domain.tld domain.tld in the Vhost, and a rewrite rule to force *.domain.tld to redirect to domain.tld |
| 23:44.43 | jhutchins_lt | noodlr: I see that, I have not seen *.<domain>.<tld> as a valid definition before. I think it's not valid. |
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| 23:45.26 | jhutchins_lt | noodlr: You might check an #apache chanel. |
| 23:45.36 | Guest55050 | รน |
| 23:45.50 | Dulak | noodlr: ServerAlias in my example ScriptAlias is something else |
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| 23:46.21 | noodlr | jhutchins, I assumed that it didn't really matter what tld you set for testing purposes ... I just use 'dev' as an informal sign that the site isn't ready to go yet. |
| 23:47.00 | jhutchins_lt | noodlr: Correct, that's valid, it's the * that I think is not. |
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| 23:47.15 | jhutchins_lt | noodlr: You can use tld .foo if you want. |
| 23:47.19 | Dulak | noodlr: ServerAlias mysite.dev *.mysite.dev |
| 23:47.32 | noodlr | Dulak, oh sorry, didn't read your comment closely enough. |
| 23:47.36 | jhutchins_lt | Dulak: Afik that is not valid. |
| 23:48.35 | Dulak | jhutchins: it is, I have about 200 sites running with it that way |
| 23:48.56 | Marcocanc | hey dulak can you help me in PM? I figured some stuff out |
| 23:49.02 | noodlr | what puzzles me is that I have another site running with pretty much the exact same profile setup (obviously with a different site name *.projects.dev), which doesn't cause me any such problems. |
| 23:49.12 | Dulak | jhutchins: the name-based vhost example from apache docs shows it exactly like that |
| 23:49.12 | jhutchins_lt | Dulak: Does the wildcard actually work? |
| 23:49.26 | Dulak | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/name-based.html |
| 23:49.33 | jhutchins_lt | Dulak: An I hit foo.yoursite.tld? arbitraryanyword.yoursite.tld? |
| 23:49.40 | noodlr | moreover, I don't have any problems when I try mysite.dev in firefox or iceweasel or chrome/chromium ... just opera. |
| 23:49.51 | noodlr | I'll go ask at #apache too.. |
| 23:50.04 | Dulak | jhutchins: if they resolve to an ip apache is bound to it should expand the Alias into the ServerName |
| 23:50.07 | noodlr | Dulak, I'll give that a go first |
| 23:50.22 | jhutchins_lt | Dulak: I'm wrong, thank you for straightening me out. |
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| 23:50.55 | Dulak | I think the wildcard didn't work right in 1.3 but is fixed in 2.x |
| 23:51.18 | Dulak | Marcocanc: best to ask questions in channel, if I don't know someone else might |
| 23:51.34 | Marcocanc | ok |
| 23:51.49 | Marcocanc | so I need to create virtual proftpd accounts |
| 23:52.23 | Marcocanc | but I don't fully understand the documentation |
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| 23:52.54 | Marcocanc | http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/VirtualUsers.html |
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| 23:56.05 | Dulak | Marcocanc: I have never done that but it looks like you want AuthUserFile: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/AuthFiles.html |
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| 23:57.35 | Marcocanc | but I don't have the ftpasswd script |
| 23:57.41 | Marcocanc | and I don't know how to execute it |
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| 23:57.59 | Dulak | you would create your own bin dir, say ~/bin |
| 23:58.31 | Dulak | then copy the script(s) you need there, and add ~/bin to your path in ~/.bashrc |
| 23:58.45 | Dulak | once it's on the path you can execute it from anywhere |
| 23:59.13 | noodlr | Dulak, where do I go to alter the rewrite rule? |
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