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| 00:00.28 | ahel1 | to whom i should ask? |
| 00:00.45 | ahel1 | is there a specific channel for os-prober? |
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| 00:03.23 | nycjv321 | 24 did anyone see my question? |
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| 00:03.59 | nycjv321 | network manager doesn't seem to start connection process to connect to my home wireless router... how should I go abount trying to solve this problem? |
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| 00:04.25 | nycjv321 | its worked before but all of a suden it does not connect |
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| 00:10.47 | mordocai | Hello, I'm using courier and exim on debian stable to provide email and imap access to said email. I would also like to setup webmail access for this, on the same server. Is there any webmail software you would recommend? My primary worries are security, robustness(I subscribe to a lot of mailing lists, up to 1000 emails a day), and speed. It should also be able to run on relatively low resources. Any suggestions? (I've googled and looked a few opti |
| 00:10.49 | mordocai | ons, but I wanted to hear some opinions as well) |
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| 00:21.06 | dym | Hey - is there a tool to monitor filesize changes within a certain directory? |
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| 00:21.28 | dym | i have incremental backups that are growing massively - but i cant trace the changes back to a user |
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| 00:36.20 | mordocai | Anyone know of a guide to setting up sqwebmail on squeeze? |
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| 00:47.28 | Virtual | I found that my server was root kited so netstat, ps, pstree, top and the usual are infected. I would like to clean them without reinstalling OS. What is the best way? |
| 00:48.52 | henchman24 | 8o |
| 00:49.47 | somiaj | Virtual: you can --reinstall the package or just install a trusted deb (provided dpkg isn't effected |
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| 00:49.57 | henchman24 | i'd probably disconnect it from network and backup then zero the drive, check your bios (hopefully you did a a dump/checksum hidden offsite (i know this isnt what you want to hear) |
| 00:50.21 | somiaj | Virtual: if you don't trust you dpkg, you can extract it on another computer and just copy the binaries over. Though its usually hard to track down every possible backdoor/hole/bug created in a compermise unless you reinstall from scratch. |
| 00:50.47 | Virtual | henchman24, I know that would be the best option but I have reason to believe this is just a script kiddie by the logs I found on my server and I wouldn't like to backup all my sites... |
| 00:51.36 | Virtual | somiaj, yup, I was thinking about using a trusted deb... |
| 00:51.57 | Virtual | its just that I haven't had to download too many deb files recently
do you know a good website to get netstat and etc? |
| 00:51.59 | jaakkos | eh. you should really reinstall the system. |
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| 00:52.28 | somiaj | Virtual: packages.debian.org (get the offical debian packages, reinstall them) |
| 00:52.39 | somiaj | Virtual: you can use apt to reinstall with apt-get --reinstall foo bar |
| 00:53.00 | somiaj | Virtual: may just want to extract a dpkg/apt package on another computer and copy the files over if you don't trust the dpkg/apt binaries on the system |
| 00:53.24 | Virtual | hmm, I will give it a shot, I am pretty sure this is a lame attempt by a romanian script kiddie |
| 00:53.52 | Virtual | I found romanian websites on the logs and even chkrootkit says I have been infected with romanian rookit |
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| 00:55.29 | themill | Virtual: you can't trust the output of anything on that box. You can't trust that any tool will give sensible output or that any tool will actually remove a bad version of a binary and replace with the new version. |
| 00:57.09 | henchman24 | agrees |
| 00:57.34 | henchman24 | http://www.usefulwork.com/shark/archives/000075.html |
| 00:58.06 | Virtual | henchman24, yup I found that on google but its from 2002 |
| 01:01.03 | Dulak | You can't trust that system again until you wipe it, truly. Once you have been rooted it's too late. |
| 01:03.13 | Dulak | Just be thankful the guy was dumb and didn't do what a pro would do. You never know a pro is there, because he's smart enough to know how to hide everything in ways you never even considered. |
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| 01:05.03 | DustyDingo | if i would deploy some payload over a .deb (so lame), i wouldn't do in a way, that deinstalling the package would remove the rootkit ;) |
| 01:06.06 | Dulak | Exactly. And you would probably use a kernel module that hides your stuff at the kernel level, so no userspace tool will see what's really going on. |
| 01:06.16 | Dulak | And that's still not quite pro level. |
| 01:06.52 | ws2k3 | when i let tcp dump create a logfile with tcpdump -w how can i let tcpdump add timestamp in that logfile? |
| 01:06.53 | DustyDingo | hiding something in userspace is also quite fun to do |
| 01:07.01 | DustyDingo | you can learn a lot by writing such stuff ;) |
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| 01:07.16 | DustyDingo | patching coreutils .etc |
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| 01:08.20 | Dulak | I had one guy who would flash the bios with his rootkit. It was amazing stuff. Ended up replacing the motherboard on that server rather than deal with it. |
| 01:08.41 | Dulak | Bastids are crazy smart. |
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| 01:09.19 | DustyDingo | Virtual: but even if you have patched coreutils etc. |
| 01:09.31 | DustyDingo | it's very likely that a kernel module was also deployed |
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| 01:15.00 | Virtual | even the netstat was replaced badly, it returned segmentation fault, now I used --reinstall and it works, found the port the root kit is running on |
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| 01:19.47 | Virtual | I found the proc which is running the rk on port 1989 |
| 01:19.52 | mycae | Hello, is there a way in bash to redirect stderr to stdout and stdout to /dev/null, so I can do a one-liner grep on stderr? |
| 01:19.53 | Virtual | so I guess we know how old he is |
| 01:21.02 | cthuluh | mycae: foo 2>&1 >/dev/null | grep ... |
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| 01:33.35 | Virtual | found the rk dir |
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| 01:37.21 | Zesturian | Hello. |
| 01:37.27 | Zesturian | I have a strange issue with crons |
| 01:37.59 | Zesturian | if I use * * * * * the command runs, but if I specify a time, it doesn't, anyone know what might cause this issue? |
| 01:38.28 | phogg | Zesturian: disagreement between you and the computer on what time it is |
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| 01:41.31 | Zesturian | phogg, date says the right date though |
| 01:41.47 | Zesturian | the * * * * * crons in the logs are saying the time I want it to trigger too |
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| 01:42.16 | Zesturian | so I say 42 1 * * * and it doesn't fire that job, but does the one * * * * * |
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| 01:52.02 | parabyte | i |
| 01:52.06 | parabyte | hello |
| 01:52.10 | parabyte | im building a new kernel |
| 01:52.26 | parabyte | whats the command to setup my kernal config for the modules in use |
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| 01:54.06 | parabyte | make defconfig? |
| 01:54.25 | simonlnu | no, def = default |
| 01:54.30 | simonlnu | !kp |
| 01:54.31 | dpkg | [kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
| 01:54.47 | simonlnu | might want to cp the one in /boot matching your current kernel |
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| 01:55.15 | parabyte | simonlnu, i know about that |
| 01:55.40 | parabyte | theres this funky new command i used a while back that setup my new kernel source with just the modules i needed |
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| 02:04.52 | simonlnu | parabyte: ah yes, i think i know, but don't remember what, do make help to see it |
| 02:05.42 | parabyte | simonlnu, cant seem to find the command i used |
| 02:05.56 | parabyte | already done make help |
| 02:05.58 | parabyte | looked |
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| 02:09.49 | jerware | #apache told me to come here becuase you guys screw with file's names so don't tell me to go to #apache. |
| 02:09.58 | jerware | anyway what file do I set DocumentRoot |
| 02:10.54 | tensorpudding | jerware, you set documentroot to where you want to put your files |
| 02:11.03 | jerware | the configuration file |
| 02:11.06 | jerware | whare is it. |
| 02:11.23 | jerware | there's a configfile that has a variable named DocumentRoot |
| 02:11.44 | tensorpudding | i don't know offhand, i don't have apache installed |
| 02:12.04 | jerware | is it apache.conf ? |
| 02:12.20 | tensorpudding | it's /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 02:12.33 | tensorpudding | and then a bunch of imported config files in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ |
| 02:13.08 | tensorpudding | debian follows a system of trying to split configuration files into a conf.d/ directory |
| 02:13.13 | tensorpudding | instead of having one monolithic file |
| 02:13.29 | tensorpudding | and the "normal" config file imports the others |
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| 02:14.08 | tensorpudding | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/apache2.2-common/filelist |
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| 02:14.13 | tensorpudding | that's the package filelist |
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| 02:14.43 | tensorpudding | if you want to know anything about a package, just search for it on packages.debian.org |
| 02:15.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | jerware: that was a remarkably hostile entry to the channel when you want to get support |
| 02:15.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | tensorpudding: ++ for bothering to help :) |
| 02:16.46 | lynks | sometimes when i install from a .deb using dpkg, there are unmet dependencies. these seem to get listed somewhere, so that all i have to do is an 'apt-get -f install' and everything works. is there a way of doing this in a single command? like a flag i can pass to dpkg to say, install this .deb and sort out the dependencies for me! |
| 02:16.49 | jerware | great rather that running grep on file I have to run it several times |
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| 02:17.00 | windparadise | hello, please my default /etc/hostnmae is berylhost.com I am trying to change it to mx.berylhost.com but it's not taking effect, I did change teh mx record to berylhost.com so I can have mx.berylhost.com but it never worked out, can you please help out? |
| 02:17.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | jerware: your not familiar with -r in grep or '*' glob in a shell? |
| 02:17.45 | jordanm | windparadise: your hostname should be "mx" and the FQDN should be set in /etc/mailname |
| 02:17.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | lynks: no, sadly not (yum does this, its hte only thing i can think of that i really miss in apt/dpkg) |
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| 02:18.10 | jordanm | windparadise: the "hostname" command is used to set the current hostname. you will also want to update /etc/hosts |
| 02:19.23 | jordanm | lynks: that only works when the package declares Depends, and not pre-depends |
| 02:20.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | lynks: perhaps a 2 line script to dpkg -i; apt-get -f install in your path somewhere |
| 02:20.57 | windparadise | jordanm: I am using an Open VZ based VPS account, with debian squeeze installed, here is teh configuration I have so var made. http://pastebin.com/dC1nV5s0 and from godaddy http://imagebin.org/182072 |
| 02:21.17 | windparadise | but whenI changed it, my server still doesn't ping on mx.berylhost.com |
| 02:21.44 | windparadise | I later changed one of the mx record to berylhost.com but no sucess |
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| 02:22.42 | jordanm | windparadise: I don't see an A record for mx.berylhost.com in there. also, your MX records point to godaddy email servers |
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| 02:24.10 | windparadise | jordanm: the A record points to the VPS server IP address |
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| 02:24.32 | jordanm | windparadise: you have an A record for @ (berylhost.com) but not for mx.berylhost.com |
| 02:24.48 | lynks | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks |
| 02:25.41 | windparadise | yes, but my hosting provider told me to set the A record to point to the IP address of my server IP address |
| 02:25.43 | jordanm | windparadise: some DNS provides allow for a wildcard domain, so you can set *.berylhost.com to all point to the same IP |
| 02:25.59 | jordanm | windparadise: right, and you have that and it works for berylhost.com |
| 02:26.54 | windparadise | jordanm: how do I set that please? |
| 02:27.35 | jordanm | windparadise: you need to create a new A record for the "mx" hostname. you will have to figure it out or ask your DNS provider for how to do so using their interface |
| 02:27.58 | windparadise | godaddy? |
| 02:28.13 | jordanm | windparadise: in bind you would just insert something like: "mx IN A 208.93.155.217" in your zone file |
| 02:28.16 | jordanm | windparadise: yes |
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| 02:30.26 | windparadise | jordanm: here is my updated dns settings, http://imagebin.org/182191 |
| 02:31.37 | jordanm | windparadise: you just changed your MX records. my understanding is that you wanted an A record for the subdomain "mx.berylhost.com". if that is the case, you need to create a *new* A record, not change an existing MX record |
| 02:32.01 | windparadise | ok, |
| 02:32.54 | jordanm | windparadise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNS_record_types that might be helpful |
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| 02:38.45 | windparadise | in the A host record setting, I have an error when adding anything like mx.berylhost.ccom *.berylhost.com mx IN A 208.93.155.217 I am told to add a valid IP address |
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| 02:39.16 | jordanm | windparadise: try just putting in "mx" instead of the FQDN |
| 02:39.35 | windparadise | where? |
| 02:39.45 | jordanm | in the DNS editor |
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| 02:41.37 | windparadise | jordanm: here is my updated image, http://imagebin.org/182193 |
| 02:42.14 | ojs | hey guys… vote for my band please, just have to open the link: http://tinyurl.com/3k2bwgb thanks *-* |
| 02:42.29 | jordanm | windparadise: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 02:42.39 | jordanm | windparadise: *exactly* |
| 02:43.08 | windparadise | I want to change the current fqdn which is berylhost.com to mx.berylhost.com |
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| 02:43.57 | jordanm | windparadise: you want the host box to say "mx" and the "points to" box to contain only your IP address |
| 02:44.56 | windparadise | ok, I am trying to set up gplhost on my server, and I am told, "Check that your hostname is mx.example.com (unless you know what you are doing) " |
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| 02:46.36 | jordanm | windparadise: ok, so set it up |
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| 02:49.55 | windparadise | jordanm: pls look at this, is it correct ? http://imagebin.org/182195 |
| 02:50.46 | jordanm | windparadise: yes |
| 02:51.41 | windparadise | ok, so how about my host files, ? /etc/hosts should I use the default or the new host setting mx.berylhost.com ? |
| 02:52.05 | jordanm | windparadise: you can use both |
| 02:52.24 | jordanm | windparadise: you can assign as many hostnames as you want to the same IP in /etc/hosts |
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| 03:01.38 | WiretapWork | HELP! I've just installed debian for like the 900th time... and this time I've come across an issue I've never seen before |
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| 03:02.05 | WiretapWork | wget cannot resolve any dns records |
| 03:02.15 | WiretapWork | ping, host, etc work fine |
| 03:02.22 | WiretapWork | nsswitch.conf looks healthy, as does resolv.conf |
| 03:02.25 | WiretapWork | I'm stumped! |
| 03:02.48 | jordanm | WiretapWork: pastebin your command and output |
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| 03:06.31 | WiretapWork | http://dev.inetpro.org/pastebin/eea7f915db0d43d787e13c3767cb03b6 |
| 03:06.34 | un214 | ??you have a pecular feeling for a moment, then it passes |
| 03:07.02 | s3a | I enabled syncing of my clock with a server. What happens if I don't have internet for a while? Does it just continue to work normally to the end user and just keep retrying a connection in the background or something? Or does it run daily or something like that? |
| 03:07.15 | WiretapWork | the former, s3a |
| 03:07.50 | s3a | WiretapWork, ok so to be pedantic, it retries every second or millisecond or what? |
| 03:07.56 | s3a | (just curious) |
| 03:08.19 | s3a | also, is there a way to change the interval |
| 03:08.35 | s3a | ideally, i would like it to be daily |
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| 03:09.57 | WiretapWork | every 5 minutes normally I believe |
| 03:10.02 | WiretapWork | don't know why you'd want ot change it |
| 03:10.28 | WiretapWork | jordanm, nothing then, I take it? |
| 03:10.43 | somiaj | WiretapWork: do you have multple networks? Yes seems strange. |
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| 03:12.18 | somiaj | WiretapWork: what about ipv6, do you have that enabled? |
| 03:12.43 | WiretapWork | somiaj, not exposed to that machine ,and IPv6 is enabled, yes |
| 03:12.57 | WiretapWork | but it is enabled on every machine in the network |
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| 03:13.01 | WiretapWork | not just that one |
| 03:13.10 | s3a | WiretapWork, because, it hogs CPU slightly less. if you know how though, please tell me |
| 03:13.17 | s3a | no matter how worthless you think it is |
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| 03:13.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | ntpd won't do scheduled, you can run ntpdate/ntp from cron |
| 03:14.15 | somiaj | WiretapWork: well my thought is it not a dns issue, but a routing issue. So when some paticular programs ask the ns for resolution they don't route themselves correctly. Thinking this can be because of having multiple networks and/or ipv6 (I've seen it do voodoo things on some boxes) |
| 03:15.23 | WiretapWork | bizarre |
| 03:15.27 | s3a | Kamping_Kaiser, when you say it won't do schedule, you mean it won't update the time in a scheduled manner for times other than the 5 minutes WiretapWork said? |
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| 03:19.03 | WiretapWork | *switches off IPv6 completely* |
| 03:19.12 | somiaj | WiretapWork: does apt-get update work if you add ftp.nz.debian.org to your /etc/hosts? |
| 03:19.25 | WiretapWork | hadn't thought of that |
| 03:19.34 | WiretapWork | waiting for a reboot after killing v6 |
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| 03:21.28 | somiaj | seems like I saw a simmilar issue in here and thought disabling ipv6 was the solution. Sometimes I wish my memory was better. :D |
| 03:22.35 | WiretapWork | disabling v6 fixed it |
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| 03:22.43 | WiretapWork | that makes zero sense |
| 03:22.57 | WiretapWork | since there are about 300 other debian machines here and they all work |
| 03:22.59 | WiretapWork | with v6 on |
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| 03:24.08 | MSTRCNVS | gstreamer mplex plugin needed by brasero is not available in squeeze, right? |
| 03:24.25 | s3a | Does anybody here have an estimate as to when unity will be in sid? |
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| 03:25.43 | zykotick9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:26.39 | s3a | zykotick9, i'm aware of the attempt but there is no estimation and why do you hope never? you don't have to use it if it's included |
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| 03:27.31 | s3a | i haven't tried ubuntu 11.10 but 11.04's unity seemed badly done but i'm not expecting to test it for real until 12.04's version |
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| 03:28.42 | s3a | it just looks like it has potential for me |
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| 03:47.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell s3a aboutunity |
| 03:47.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | bleh |
| 03:47.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell s3a about unity |
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| 03:47.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | -0> out |
| 03:47.52 | deskrat | does any one know any good refs on how to run multiple loggers on a debian server ( 2 rsyslogs) |
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| 03:48.26 | somiaj | WiretapWork: well glad it worked. Do you have ipv6 nameservers. I'm unsure why that happens. |
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| 04:09.15 | WiretapWork | somiaj, not that I know of |
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| 04:10.08 | somiaj | WiretapWork: Well I personally just disable ipv6 on my boxes since I don't have routers/networks that use it. And I have seen it get in the way of resovling before. Though I have never tracked down why. |
| 04:10.50 | WiretapWork | somiaj, I'm responsible for implementing IPv6 at the DC here... I don't want that to be its first bad step :P |
| 04:11.46 | somiaj | WiretapWork: well I guess you get to be `lucky' enough to track down the issue. |
| 04:12.02 | WiretapWork | XD indeed |
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| 04:18.57 | acuster | hey all, can someone explain what is going on with kernels in wheezy? I read this: Package: linux-image-2.6-powerpc (3.0.0+39) |
| 04:19.08 | acuster | so is this 3.0 or 2.6? |
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| 04:25.17 | rjsalts | acuster: it's a dummy package to transition to linux 3.0 |
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| 04:26.13 | johnfg | hi folks |
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| 04:26.46 | johnfg | What is nmap -v -A <my server> reading to give open ports? |
| 04:27.07 | johnfg | It's not what I have configured in iptables, not what I have open on this new modem/router. |
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| 04:28.39 | rjsalts | johnfg: it's attempting to establish a tcp connection |
| 04:29.11 | jordanm | johnfg: it sends a TCP syn and reports open if it recieves a SYN,ACK |
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| 04:47.41 | Datz | Hi, I have a problem with 6.0. Whenever I unmount my external drive via the GUI the system crashes/freezes. I have all of the updates. Any thoughts? |
| 04:48.34 | Datz | And not just the GUI freezes. I cannot remotely log in via ssh, and the monitor goes black |
| 04:48.35 | zodiak | silly question but, is it jst me or do the fonts on debian wheezy look.. urm .. bad ? |
| 04:49.20 | zodiak | Datz personally, I would tail the syslog and see what's going on .. sounds like a kernel panic more than anything |
| 04:49.32 | zodiak | although monitor going black will make that challenging :\ |
| 04:49.38 | Datz | zodiak: ah ok. I'll take a look |
| 04:50.42 | zodiak | I once had a cdrom drive on my desktop that had a bad cable, would cause all sorts of 'fun' when I tried to use it |
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| 04:53.14 | phorce1 | Datz: same problem here but it's on a machine at home that I'm only in front of once a week so I haven't had a chance to troubleshoot. I've just gotten in the habit of doing a manual umount in a term screen |
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| 04:58.50 | Datz | zodiak: yea couldn't find anything in the syslog that tells me anything |
| 04:59.09 | Datz | phorce1: ah, it it doesn't crash with a manual umount I'll just do that :) |
| 04:59.44 | Datz | if* |
| 05:00.07 | phorce1 | Datz: yeah, Nautilus sucks more than usual in Squeeze |
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| 05:01.54 | Datz | heh.. bummer :p |
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| 05:02.03 | phorce1 | But Diablo II works pretty well in wine (after a backports upgrade) so I'm happy |
| 05:02.39 | phorce1 | Diablo II on a 32" HDMI monitor is kinda cool. |
| 05:05.19 | windparadise | when I type hostname --fqdn I have "hostname: Name or service not known" error what should I do ? |
| 05:05.59 | Datz | haha nice |
| 05:06.34 | Datz | phorce1: I'm running debian on my little atom server for media.. on a 42" :) |
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| 05:12.59 | windparadise | any answer ? |
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| 05:15.58 | khem_ | if I want to install Debian but have a previous installation (archlinux), with ecryptfs for my /home folders, will ecryptfs work out of the box if I just keep that partition and dont reformat it? |
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| 05:17.56 | henchman24 | think so |
| 05:18.09 | henchman24 | well i actually think you need to move all the stuff |
| 05:18.15 | henchman24 | mount it |
| 05:18.21 | henchman24 | then copy everything over to it |
| 05:18.45 | henchman24 | not sure been awhile |
| 05:19.48 | henchman24 | try it with a test folder/files |
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| 05:22.59 | windparadise | hello, pls which apache module is responsible for enabling subdomains, ? |
| 05:24.04 | simonlnu | it's out of the box, i.e. in core |
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| 05:33.10 | en1gma | im working with hostapd ....i can see the AP it creates and i can kind of connect to it and i recieve the dhcp ip from the AP....i then try to ping the client (from a linux term) and it does for like 3x and then it just hangs |
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| 05:47.52 | dioz_ | using sshd and putty as a client configured for dynamic tunnel i can view ipv4 content |
| 05:48.01 | dioz_ | how can i make it so i can view ipv6 content as well using the same method |
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| 06:00.38 | eskp | hi all |
| 06:01.29 | eskp | i have purged a package, now if i re-install it apt-get doesn't seem to put the default config files in place |
| 06:01.50 | eskp | how would i go about restoring the original package directory setup? |
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| 06:02.27 | zykotick9 | eskp, i think you could use "apt-get install --reinstall foo" to get the config(s) back |
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| 06:06.08 | eskp | zykotick9: didn't seem to do it |
| 06:06.38 | zykotick9 | eskp, sorry, i don't have any other suggestions. Good luck. |
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| 06:08.03 | erawfish_ | !tell eskp about confmiss |
| 06:08.58 | erawfish_ | dioz_: maybe use a ssh client that can do ipv6? |
| 06:09.48 | en1gma | my username "en1gma" was added to the sudoers file.....so why is it when i open up "terminal" and i run a command like 'ifconfig' i still have to type sudo |
| 06:10.07 | en1gma | i need to add /usr/sbin path? |
| 06:10.13 | in2tactics | en1gma: that is how sudo works |
| 06:10.25 | gusryfeld | That's the very purpose of sudo. |
| 06:10.31 | in2tactics | en1gma: you type sudo before the command to run it with elevated priv |
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| 06:11.05 | en1gma | yea that is what i have been doing...but whats the point of added me to the sudoers if i have to do that everytime? |
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| 06:11.20 | en1gma | i wouldnt be able to run the command at all prob? |
| 06:11.21 | in2tactics | en1gma: that way you do not have to login to root |
| 06:11.25 | en1gma | ok |
| 06:11.30 | en1gma | that makes sense. |
| 06:11.37 | in2tactics | en1gma: it's a security feature |
| 06:11.48 | gusryfeld | cd .. |
| 06:11.56 | gusryfeld | oops, sorry |
| 06:12.08 | in2tactics | gusryfeld: lol i do that too sometimes |
| 06:12.50 | gnarface | en1gma: maybe it would make more sense to you to just use "su -" ? that's what I do |
| 06:13.08 | en1gma | ahh so i can do that like 'su en1gma' ? |
| 06:13.19 | en1gma | and i dont have to do sudo everytime? |
| 06:13.35 | en1gma | oh i see the "-" now |
| 06:13.36 | gnarface | su - en1gma |
| 06:13.44 | gnarface | if you don't use a username, root is implied |
| 06:13.55 | en1gma | ok lemme try that |
| 06:13.56 | gnarface | unlike sudo the password it asks for is that user's password, not yours |
| 06:14.19 | gnarface | the '-' is optional and causes you to also inherit that user's shell environment |
| 06:14.24 | in2tactics | gnarface: you can set sudo to use the users password, it depends on how you have configured sudo |
| 06:14.36 | gnarface | in2tactics: thanks, noted. |
| 06:15.13 | gnarface | en1gma: sudo is primarily intended for multi-user systems where you want to rant conditional root rights to users conditionally, without any of them having to know more than their own password |
| 06:15.20 | gnarface | s/rant/grant/ |
| 06:15.49 | en1gma | i opened up a term as en1gma and i did both 'sudo - en1gma' and 'sudo en1gma' and when i type 'ifconfig' it dont understand |
| 06:15.55 | gnarface | no no |
| 06:15.59 | en1gma | command not found |
| 06:16.04 | eskp | erawfish_: that didn't seem to do it either |
| 06:16.07 | in2tactics | en1gma: you would type sudo ifconfig |
| 06:16.15 | en1gma | thats how it is now |
| 06:16.22 | gnarface | en1gma: open up the terminal as en1gma and type: su - |
| 06:16.26 | en1gma | ohhhh |
| 06:16.33 | gnarface | en1gma: then enter the root password. you will then be root, and have root's shell environment as well |
| 06:16.41 | eskp | erawfish_: i have heard of confmiss so i tried dpkg -i --force-confmiss first - no luck |
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| 06:16.53 | en1gma | ok that working good :) |
| 06:16.55 | gnarface | en1gma: logout (ctrl-d, exit, logout, whatever) to return to the old usre |
| 06:16.58 | gnarface | old user |
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| 06:17.36 | gnarface | en1gma: make sense now? then as root you could su to any other user without being prompted for a password. like: su - gnarface |
| 06:17.37 | gusryfeld | If it's just one command just use su -c 'command_here' |
| 06:17.42 | en1gma | that make it alot easier to read my text files...whenever i try and remember important commands i copy and paste them to a text file but every command has sudo in front of it |
| 06:17.53 | en1gma | ohh let me try that |
| 06:17.58 | gnarface | gusryfeld: the issue is he was objecting to per-command syntax |
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| 06:18.52 | gnarface | en1gma: here's a neat trick for systems that have sudo on them: sudo su - |
| 06:18.54 | gusryfeld | You are right. |
| 06:18.57 | gnarface | en1gma: (yep, it will work like that) |
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| 06:20.22 | en1gma | gnarface yea it kind of making sense....if i was to install a binary file as root vs sudo en1gma would the file have the exact same permissions and belong to exact same user:group |
| 06:20.22 | aminpy | http://dpaste.com/646467/ <- can anybody help me? |
| 06:21.12 | somiaj | aminpy: have you compiled the virtualbox modules for your paticular kernel? |
| 06:21.20 | aminpy | somiaj, no |
| 06:21.32 | aminpy | somiaj, I install it with apt-get |
| 06:21.35 | dioz_ | erawfish_: putty does ipv6... doesn't it? |
| 06:21.53 | somiaj | aminpy: but you installed the modules, I rember you have to install a source or dkms package. |
| 06:22.01 | dioz_ | 6tunnel does it |
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| 06:22.36 | somiaj | aminpy: virtualbox-dkms should build the module, but you need to install the linux-headers for your kernel version as well. |
| 06:22.46 | gnarface | en1gma: well you could probably not install a binary with "sudo en1gma" but you could install one with sudo or "sudo root". the difference between actually being root vs using sudo just as "sudo [command]" is things like the value of $HOME will be correct (/root) for example, if you're actually root. |
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| 06:23.31 | aminpy | somiaj, i linux-headers-3.1.0-rc8 |
| 06:23.40 | aminpy | somiaj, I alreadty install it |
| 06:24.04 | en1gma | 'sudo make install' installs modules all the time...would those modules have the same permissions and ownerships as root? |
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| 06:24.58 | gnarface | en1gma: when you "su - " its identical to logging in as root, so it runs root's bash login and environment setup scripts in root's home dir. sudo alone would *not* necessarily have the same permissions or group as if you use "su -" to install although in both cases the user owner will still be root |
| 06:25.23 | en1gma | ahh ok that good to know. |
| 06:25.33 | sedulous | "This package contains spellchek server which works via TCP/IP and DBUS. |
| 06:25.37 | en1gma | thanks |
| 06:25.43 | gnarface | no problem |
| 06:25.50 | sedulous | (zemberek-server) |
| 06:27.17 | raketti | just installed debian squeeze and my disp. resolution should be 1680x1050 according to monitor specs, but I only get 1366xSTH.. I can manually add the needed reso "xrandr --addmode..." but after X restart I have to do it again.. So.. how to make it permanent? |
| 06:28.44 | somiaj | raketti: provde an xorg.conf snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ to set your default resolution. |
| 06:29.18 | somiaj | raketti: you can also read though your xorg.log for some clue as to why it pickes the resolution it does. |
| 06:29.31 | gnarface | raketti: ^^ |
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| 06:30.20 | gnarface | raketti: sometimes you need a modeline but its more often that it is simply mis-detecting the monitor's horizontal and vertical referesh ranges. you can enter them manually so they are more accurate and that often fixes the problem. |
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| 06:31.29 | gnarface | raketti: its a more common problem with older CRT monitors than anything else but its worth checking into just for good measure |
| 06:31.44 | raketti | tried to add xorg.conf to /etc/X11/ but didn't work.. |
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| 06:32.15 | raketti | somiaj: will try that path.. |
| 06:32.16 | gnarface | raketti: its picky about some things. you have to make sure to check the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log after every run |
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| 06:32.28 | gnarface | raketti: that's where it will complain about syntax errors or missing drivers |
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| 06:33.28 | gnarface | raketti: somiaj's suggestion may be easier because you only have to make valid a small part of the whole config |
| 06:34.04 | simonlnu | esp. if you aren't familiar with xconf syntax |
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| 06:34.33 | raketti | garface: not sure which driver should be in use for I have an integrated intel display driver.. so going with the default.. |
| 06:35.05 | simonlnu | in structure it's like apache conf, but a lot more anal |
| 06:35.20 | raketti | sorry for the typos.. small touchscreen isn't that irc friendly.. :-D |
| 06:35.23 | gnarface | raketti: the good news is you can probably set horizontal and vertical refresh rates the same way and still only have to touch a tiny portion of the overall config syntax |
| 06:35.23 | somiaj | you might get away with just speifing the SubSectio Display part of screen |
| 06:36.21 | raketti | gnarface: I assumed i only need to add the Section "Display" to the conf, right? |
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| 06:37.01 | somiaj | well Display is a subsection of Screen |
| 06:37.31 | simonlnu | man xorg.conf ;) |
| 06:37.39 | raketti | somiaj: indeed,but you got the point.. :-) |
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| 06:38.53 | gnarface | raketti: yes that will be sufficient probably. i'm just suggesting you also look into specifying the horizontal and vertical refresh rates as well, just to be sure they're correct. if you can find out the physical DPI of the display you should also set that (might increase visual quality, definitely will increase accuracy when creating graphics or rendering fonts, with some additional program-specific tweaking) |
| 06:38.56 | somiaj | raketti: but the screen section requires a device section as well. |
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| 06:39.43 | raketti | somiaj: yes... knew that... |
| 06:40.01 | gnarface | raketti: i've never actually used the conf.d directory i am a control freak so i have an entire xorg.conf i've meticulously hand crafted and refined over a period of several years |
| 06:40.18 | raketti | somiaj: that's the tricky part, dunno what it is... :-D |
| 06:42.18 | gnarface | raketti: the output of lspci may be a good place to start. you need to figure out which intel chip the motherboard has. if you have the full specs from the manufacturer or the manual (which should contain them) that would be another way to find out. |
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| 06:45.20 | raketti | somiaj, gnarface: thanks both, I'll see what I can screw up.. :-D |
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| 06:46.47 | somiaj | or just read your xorg log from the automatic startup and see which driver it picks |
| 06:47.21 | gnarface | is it safe to assume it will always pick the right one? i don't know that |
| 06:47.41 | simonlnu | not always |
| 06:47.56 | gnarface | raketti: it would be a good thing to check though. ^^^ |
| 06:48.00 | simonlnu | or if it does, whether or not it actualyl works |
| 06:48.03 | gnarface | raketti: for all you know its not even using the intel driver |
| 06:48.08 | simonlnu | *lly |
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| 06:48.39 | gnarface | it tries to fall back on vesa right? |
| 06:48.55 | simonlnu | or fbdev |
| 06:49.11 | simonlnu | ...as a last resort |
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| 06:49.48 | raketti | gnarface: that would be my guess.. the xranrd --addmode requires VGA1 option, don't know what that indicates.. |
| 06:50.30 | gnarface | that would certainly also explain the resolution it picks |
| 06:50.39 | gnarface | or could |
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| 06:53.40 | gnarface | is there a program like wine but for os9? i've got this mac os 9 copy of simcity 3000 i've been dying to play for years. alas i think the mac is dead. |
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| 06:54.18 | gnarface | i installed linux on it and microwaved my os9 disk years ago anyway |
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| 06:59.09 | simonlnu | yeh, it's called mol, mac-on-linux and only runs on ppc. upstream is dead (?) |
| 06:59.32 | gusryfeld | I have simcity 3000 here. |
| 06:59.52 | gusryfeld | I think I still have the box somewhere. |
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| 07:00.15 | gusryfeld | Good ol' times.. =P |
| 07:01.21 | gnarface | damn |
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| 07:02.26 | Ziber | Does ifconfig eth0:0 down take down eth0 as well? |
| 07:03.07 | gnarface | Ziber: i think it does sometimes, depending perhaps (mabye?) on your ethernet driver |
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| 07:03.20 | Ziber | Thats very annoying. :/ |
| 07:03.37 | gnarface | Ziber: i believe there is a sysctl.conf flag you can set to work around it, i forget exactly but something like promote aliases |
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| 07:05.44 | Ziber | I'll have to look into that, thanks. |
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| 07:05.55 | Ziber | But now, to sleep, since its 3am. |
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| 07:27.42 | dname | see how that makes the user now? ssh |
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| 07:50.02 | qiyong | how can I clean obsolete apt-mirror's? like squeeze? |
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| 07:51.17 | kblessinggr | been searching around for a while, but seems I can't get the mercurial package to work, I've installed mercurial and mercurial-common via apt-get on deb 6.0, but if I use hg I just keep getting couldn't find mercurial libraries in ... |
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| 08:04.56 | kblessinggr | I keep getting "abort: couldn't find mercurial libraries in" when using hg, even though I have python2.6, python2.6-dev, mercurial and mercurial-common installed via apt-get on Deb 6.0 |
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| 08:05.14 | kblessinggr | and the $PYTHONPATH echos to the correct path |
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| 08:09.32 | simonlnu | k1ng: reinstall it, and make sure you haven't done something dumb like symlink site-packages to dist-packages |
| 08:09.52 | kblessinggr | I've even removed purged, etc and did and install several times now |
| 08:10.33 | simonlnu | what about the other part of what i said? |
| 08:11.03 | kblessinggr | well with the packages in site-packages rermoved I Don't see how that would be possible unless apt-get does it every time it installs |
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| 08:12.33 | kblessinggr | when I do a fresh install of it (ie: its been removed, purged, and its instances removed from site-packages) apt-get does create a symlink to mercurial-1.6.4.egg-info -> /usr/share/pyshared/mercurial-1.6.4.egg-info but the mercurial folder itself isn't symlinked |
| 08:12.51 | simonlnu | i don't think it puts stuff there anyway, not in squeeze anyway |
| 08:13.15 | simonlnu | that's normal, the egg-info symlink |
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| 08:13.39 | kblessinggr | but I have done apt-get remove --purge mercurial mercurial-common then reinstalled, but again the same problem with hg saying it can't find the libraries |
| 08:13.47 | simonlnu | no it should symlink the .py files, and byte compile to .pyc |
| 08:13.52 | kblessinggr | and I do have python2.6-dev installed |
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| 08:14.08 | simonlnu | and stuff 'em in to /usr/lib/pythonVER |
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| 08:14.56 | kblessinggr | after install , these are the mercurial folders found in /usr/lib/py* http://pastebin.com/nnQcj9Ns |
| 08:15.05 | simonlnu | (fyi, apt-get doesn't install packages, it just retrieves them) |
| 08:15.41 | kblessinggr | :P could have fooled me, in the past on lenny to get hg going I just needed to do apt-get install mercurial |
| 08:15.45 | simonlnu | that's cool, normal also |
| 08:15.46 | kblessinggr | and it just worked |
| 08:15.59 | kblessinggr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.59 | simonlnu | yeh, um, it's supposed to ;) |
| 08:16.25 | simonlnu | check bts, google is useless unless you search for the error |
| 08:16.36 | kblessinggr | http://pastebin.com/Qb316Tk9 just keep getting that error on any call to hg |
| 08:16.47 | kblessinggr | been searching for the error :P |
| 08:16.52 | kblessinggr | not that dumb :P |
| 08:17.04 | kblessinggr | not clue what bts is though |
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| 08:17.51 | konverguoju | hello, any ideas how do I figure out whether my system supports ASPM and if so is it enabled by default? |
| 08:17.53 | simonlnu | !bts |
| 08:17.54 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 08:19.01 | simonlnu | kblessinggr: check if the files are dangling symlinks or not. do you have mercurial-common there too? |
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| 08:19.11 | kblessinggr | only match on bts is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=646546 |
| 08:19.21 | simonlnu | (though it might not be in squeeze, that package) |
| 08:19.23 | kblessinggr | mercurial-common is installed as well |
| 08:19.30 | simonlnu | -common i mean |
| 08:19.33 | kblessinggr | got installed when I did apt-get install mercurial |
| 08:19.50 | kblessinggr | aptitude search mercurial shows it listed as installed along side the mercurial package |
| 08:20.22 | simonlnu | check the files |
| 08:20.25 | kblessinggr | and the debsums output is blank |
| 08:20.47 | kblessinggr | any file(s) in particular? |
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| 08:21.33 | simonlnu | all the stuff in /usr/lib/pymodules/mercurial or wherever it is |
| 08:22.18 | kblessinggr | http://pastebin.com/ZpEp61cn that folder's output |
| 08:22.22 | simonlnu | other than that, try reinstalling -common. otherwise *shrug* |
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| 08:22.53 | kblessinggr | on a whim I tried aptitude reinstall python-support and now hg works |
| 08:23.01 | kblessinggr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:23.03 | simonlnu | and /usr/share/pyshared/mercurial/ exists with the files in it? |
| 08:23.09 | simonlnu | buh |
| 08:23.16 | kblessinggr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:23.25 | simonlnu | !dbugs 646546 |
| 08:23.30 | dpkg | DONE:#646546:N[mercurial] mercurial fails to run: abort: couldn't find mercurial libraries in [/usr/bin /usr/lib/python2.6 [...] (); Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:51:01 UTC [] |
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| 08:24.27 | kblessinggr | seems like I should probably go hit up openvz and mention python-support not being properly installed on their official template :P |
| 08:24.38 | simonlnu | ok, problem solved ;) |
| 08:24.59 | kblessinggr | indeed, least your advise bout bts lead to the solution |
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| 08:25.30 | konverguoju | how do I figure out whether my system supports ASPM and if so is it enabled by default? |
| 08:25.38 | kblessinggr | been away from deb for too long as well, was on a freebsd server til I wasn't able to pay the server bill |
| 08:25.43 | kblessinggr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.35 | simonlnu | konverguoju: and what is aspm? |
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| 08:27.06 | simonlnu | might wanna ask ##hardware |
| 08:27.10 | konverguoju | simonlnu: active state power management (concerning laptops) |
| 08:27.36 | simonlnu | yeh ask ##hardware |
| 08:28.06 | simonlnu | they'll tell you how to find it (probably in /proc/cpuinfo, but i dunno), and enable it, etc. |
| 08:28.07 | konverguoju | ok, thanks :] doesn't it have anything to do with operating system? |
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| 08:28.23 | konverguoju | ok :] |
| 08:28.27 | kblessinggr | they're pretty common accross the board with similar distros :P |
| 08:28.33 | simonlnu | could be just modprobing a driver for all i know ;) |
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| 08:34.52 | jelly-home | it's a PCI Express feature to enable powering off devices (and the bus?) when not in use |
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| 09:05.34 | dvorak_ | Rudder anus shnanus shnidder shnubbers |
| 09:05.41 | dvorak_ | One day I aws looking on a mountain top |
| 09:05.46 | dvorak_ | And the penis was his name |
| 09:05.48 | dvorak_ | WAAAAAAOOOOW |
| 09:05.49 | dvorak_ | She's got it! |
| 09:05.52 | dvorak_ | Yeah baby she's got |
| 09:05.57 | dvorak_ | I'm your penis! |
| 09:06.01 | dvorak_ | I'm youre FIRE! |
| 09:06.04 | dvorak_ | So don't desire |
| 09:06.05 | dvorak_ | I'm your penis! |
| 09:06.08 | dvorak_ | I'm you're FIRE! |
| 09:06.09 | dvorak_ | So don't desire |
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| 09:06.38 | dvorak_ | Burning like a bright blue flame |
| 09:06.40 | dvorak_ | A time machine to the past |
| 09:06.42 | dvorak_ | Fred Berger was his name |
| 09:06.46 | dvorak_ | In the past, |
| 09:06.48 | dvorak_ | A baby, he had it |
| 09:06.50 | dvorak_ | Born on Venus |
| 09:06.52 | dvorak_ | Grew up on Vega |
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| 09:06.55 | dvorak_ | well, Born on Venus |
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| 09:06.59 | dvorak_ | Died in Kansas |
| 09:07.01 | dvorak_ | Run dun dun dun dun Venus! |
| 09:07.03 | dvorak_ | came from five thousand fourty nine |
| 09:07.05 | dvorak_ | --------His genius was passed down through time |
| 09:07.07 | dvorak_ | Making every person mad |
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| 09:07.11 | dvorak_ | Brains like no one else had |
| 09:07.12 | dvorak_ | Wow ! |
| 09:07.14 | dvorak_ | He had it, |
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| 09:07.18 | dvorak_ | Born on Venus |
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| 09:23.34 | RiggyDickDiggty | Deh neh neh neh noo noo neh neh Deh neh neh neh noo noo neh neh BAT MAN! |
| 09:23.34 | RiggyDickDiggty | Ruvah duviv! Ruvah Duvev, Ruvah Doovav, Ruv Div DuV |
| 09:23.34 | RiggyDickDiggty | Ruvah duviv! Ruvah Duvev, Ruvah Doovav, Ruv Div DuB |
| 09:23.39 | RiggyDickDiggty | I thoug.ht of birds flying through the sky... when the bird shits guano it gets absorbed by a plant. |
| 09:23.39 | RiggyDickDiggty | The plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly |
| 09:23.39 | RiggyDickDiggty | turned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest |
| 09:23.44 | RiggyDickDiggty | The nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee |
| 09:23.44 | RiggyDickDiggty | The molecule went into the bee's stinger during growth. Then some kid got stung... |
| 09:23.44 | RiggyDickDiggty | it really hurts when it comes from bird shit |
| 09:23.44 | RiggyDickDiggty | You fug ug fagheads. |
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| 09:23.57 | roshanavand | like hdd led |
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| 09:24.03 | RiggyDickDiggty | Some of the time I ordinarily don't know. It all begins with the letter A. Fork, spoon, knife, it's all at the table. |
| 09:24.03 | RiggyDickDiggty | The mailman comes to each of us in time. |
| 09:24.04 | roshanavand | or bluetooth led |
| 09:24.09 | RiggyDickDiggty | you fug dug fargnargs |
| 09:24.10 | RiggyDickDiggty | HEP TEP ROG'S MY KICK ASS PHRASE, Boy my bestest friend |
| 09:24.10 | RiggyDickDiggty | Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... |
| 09:24.11 | jelly | !ops RiggyDickDiggty |
| 09:24.11 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly complains about: RiggyDickDiggty |
| 09:24.26 | RiggyDickDiggty | Where's Waldo... Where's Osama Bin Laden... there is no difference. |
| 09:24.27 | RiggyDickDiggty | Nothing but a bunch of druggie channels go do drugs tomorrow it's not swiped. |
| 09:24.27 | RiggyDickDiggty | The grass is green and I"m not WHITE |
| 09:24.27 | RiggyDickDiggty | Fuck daddy dick ass I don't mind, chicka licka lutch to the chickil heckin' cream, I give off steam! |
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| 09:24.37 | RiggyDickDiggty | Of the expectant quadrilatical theorem, comes a tenth degree arc requiem. |
| 09:24.37 | RiggyDickDiggty | Farting inside the thim ble spool, the next time mom mom comes to sew she'll drool |
| 09:24.37 | RiggyDickDiggty | I'm not thinkin about kardacian bilm horned mooses anymore, I'm thinkin about Plix Plixiplik... |
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| 09:48.30 | windparadise | after my recent configuration, when i ping my mx record, ping mx.berylhost.com it gives a reply meanwhile in my terminal, hostname --fqdn returns hostname: Name or service not known also when I tried restarting apache, I have this error. root@berylhost:~# /etc/init.d/apache2 restartRestarting web server: apache2apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for berylhostapache2: Could not... |
| 09:48.32 | windparadise | ...reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerNamewhat do I do ? |
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| 09:50.23 | wfq | hi guys |
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| 09:50.39 | wfq | is there anyway to do fsck on a ntfs partition from debian? |
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| 09:51.27 | babilen | rly: Search for "multi hop ssh" and look into nc (i.e. netcat) -- There are a couple of ways, but I can't explain them right now. |
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| 09:52.51 | themill | rly: the -W option for ssh might be interesting |
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| 09:54.10 | rozie | szczęśliwie inny serwisant był z Białorusi i przejął pałęczkę |
| 09:54.19 | rozie | sorry, wrong window |
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| 09:56.04 | windparadise | any answer please? |
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| 09:59.20 | disposable | i have several squeeze servers running 2.6.32-vserver kernel. and on only one of them, iotop shows jbd2/dm2-8 constantly using between 30 and 99% of IO. on all hte others, i only see that process every couple of seconds, and never above 3% of IO. How should i go about diagnosing it? |
| 09:59.27 | gnarface | i'm looking for a recommendation on a supported video capture card. it has to be able to capture from component video connectors and be PCIe |
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| 10:02.41 | JyZyXEL | i wonder if its hard to boot the netinstall cd from hard disk with grub2? |
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| 10:06.39 | rly | babilen: thanks. |
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| 10:09.39 | JyZyXEL | "You can boot the installer directly from a hard disk using LILO or GRUB, and the hd-media initrd will find your netinst.iso. See the DebianInstall for details " |
| 10:10.53 | JyZyXEL | the details are actually in the Installation Guide |
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| 10:24.37 | Night_Elf | Hi all. Yesterday I was trying some stuff with ssmtp. When apt-get to install, exim4 and some other related packages were automatically removed, they conflict with ssmtp. On it went and all was good. Now I wanted to remove ssmtp so apt-get remove ssmtp said it would install exim4 and the related again. Yet, at the end I get this: |
| 10:24.44 | Night_Elf | E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'exim4'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
| 10:27.37 | Night_Elf | What can be done in this case? The installation is just a default, I didn't touch exim at all, just had the need to test something with ssmtp yesterday, and now I was to remove it and get to my previous state. |
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| 10:31.12 | petemc | Night_Elf: tried dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ? |
| 10:31.35 | Night_Elf | petemc: No, not yet. Let me try. |
| 10:32.18 | Night_Elf | petemc: I get this in this case: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: exim4-config is broken or not fully installed |
| 10:33.19 | petemc | Night_Elf: and if you try apt-get install exim4 ? |
| 10:33.29 | themill | Night_Elf: did you come here a few days ago with this problem? |
| 10:34.05 | Night_Elf | petemc: That gives the same error message of inability to perform imediate configuration of exim4. |
| 10:34.43 | Night_Elf | themill: well no. But I was helping out someone here who needed some stuff with ssmtp. Actually that is why I installed it. |
| 10:35.21 | petemc | Night_Elf: try installing exim4-config as well |
| 10:35.24 | themill | hmm... we had someone with the exact same ssmtp->exim4 problem about a week ago. Sounds like a real bug then. |
| 10:35.30 | Night_Elf | I don't use neither exim in this machine or either ssmtp. But I guess there is something that is not right when just installing a package and then removing it and then wanting it again. |
| 10:35.36 | Night_Elf | petemc: ok |
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| 10:36.29 | themill | Night_Elf: from what I've seen, once apt has a hissy fit about immediate-configuration like this, the only way around it is to use dpkg -i on the appropriate packages (or dpkg --purge on the things you need to get rid of first) |
| 10:36.35 | Night_Elf | petemc: apt-get install exim4-config This gives as well -> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'exim4'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
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| 10:38.14 | Night_Elf | themill: I will then see to dpkg -i the exim4 package and those other ones if needed (exim4-base exim4-daemon-light) |
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| 10:42.37 | Night_Elf | themill: petemc: Ok, this is what happened. I tried to manually install with: dpkg -i exim4_4.72-6+squeeze2_all.deb exim4-daemon-light_4.72-6+squeeze2_i386.deb exim4-base_4.72-6+squeeze2_i386.deb exim4-config_4.72-6+squeeze2_all.deb |
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| 10:44.45 | Night_Elf | The reply to this was: ssmtp (version 2.64-4) is present and installed. I remember uninstalling it before, nonetheless there might not have happened correctly. So I apt-get remove ssmtp once again, and aftr this was completed, there was the message: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: |
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| 10:45.57 | Night_Elf | This was followed by a list that mentioned exim4 and the related which have unmet dependences. So I did just that, and only at this point now I see the familiar messages that should appear when installing/removing stuff. |
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| 10:47.50 | Night_Elf | themill: petemc: Now the situation seems to be correct. But, can this be some sort of bug or mishanddling during install/remove of ssmtp ? |
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| 10:59.51 | burhan | is there something like spacewalk http://spacewalk.redhat.com/ (which has rudimentary support for debian) for debian systems? |
| 11:00.03 | burhan | looking for profile and update management |
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| 11:00.45 | filePeter | KBme: Nice ip… Ever had lead:ed:cafe ? |
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| 11:09.18 | iaj | Hi there.. How can I echo the current username? |
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| 11:10.17 | allorder | whoami ? |
| 11:10.18 | burhan | iaj: echo $USER |
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| 11:17.23 | burhan | I guess nothing out there for debian support :( |
| 11:17.37 | burhan | have to resort to using redhat or suse |
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| 11:18.44 | burhan | ubuntu has landscape, not sure if that will work. |
| 11:20.41 | babilen | burhan: It could very well be that none of us know what spacewalk is and does not want to invest the time to learn it. If you are looking for a web control hosting panel ask dpkg about <free whcp> -- If you are looking for a system to automate the configuration of hosts take a look at puppet, cfengine, chef (et al.) -- If you are looking for monitoring systems you might like Icinga, Munin, Cacti, ... |
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| 11:33.04 | burhan | spacewalk is a (free) project from redhat that allows report administration and monitoring of linux systems (it has some basic support for debian). Almost all other systems do one of two things (either monitor, like cacti) or automatic configuration management. I need one that does both with device templates and most important rollbacks |
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| 11:34.04 | burhan | there doesn't seem to be anything there for debian - RPM-based distributions have spacewalk, and Ubuntu has Landscape, but nothing for debian. |
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| 11:39.19 | babilen | burhan: I would personally opt for puppet+Icinga. It looks as if there is Debian support for spacewalk, but I am not sure how well maintained that is. But if either landscape or spacewalk are exactly what you need then use them. I would also suggest to write to the mailing list as there might be tools that I am not aware of that are comparable to those two. Note that landscape is not a free tool which therefore also doesn't meet your requirements. |
| 11:39.56 | burhan | yes I know landscape isn't free :/ |
| 11:40.28 | burhan | I'll look at the options. |
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| 11:43.37 | rysiek|pl | yellow |
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| 11:44.06 | rysiek|pl | guys, I'm trying to build a Sparc Debian Live system |
| 11:44.19 | filePeter | rysiek|pl: interesting… |
| 11:44.28 | rysiek|pl | but I'm stuck on something that even Google can't help, seemingly |
| 11:44.34 | rysiek|pl | /usr/share/live/build/scripts/build/lb_chroot_debianchroot: 81: cannot create chroot/etc/debian_chroot: Directory nonexistent |
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| 11:45.22 | rysiek|pl | and I'm stuck |
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| 11:45.56 | antgel | laptop hard disk failure. o_O |
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| 11:46.45 | babilen | burhan: puppet + puppet dashboard maybe? or puppet enterprise? |
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| 11:48.23 | babilen | rysiek|pl: Try #debian-live on irc.oftc.net |
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| 11:48.44 | rysiek|pl | babilen: thanks |
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| 11:56.01 | konverguoju | anyone here has been recently resolving nvidia optimus under linux issue recently? |
| 11:56.30 | antgel | so, here's the thing. my laptop powered down without being shut down properly. on reboot, it wouldn't mount /dev/sda1 (root) and came up with a load of dreaded ATA / DMA-type errors. i booted live ubuntu, ran fsck and it fixed some errors. now i can boot, but i don't trust the hard disk. how to test the disk without just doing an fsck? |
| 11:56.38 | antgel | maybe some sectors have problems etc |
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| 12:00.26 | babilen | antgel: Look into smartctl and run some of its tests. The output of "smartctl -a /dev/???" (adjust the command) might also give some clues. |
| 12:00.53 | babilen | antgel: You could also use "badblocks" to search for bad blocks and so on .. |
| 12:00.53 | antgel | babilen: thanks, that's a good start. i just don't really get why fsck would "fix" some of these nasty errors |
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| 12:01.07 | antgel | babilen: right, i think i should run fsck -c |
| 12:01.29 | antgel | hmm, i need to install smartctl :) |
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| 12:01.41 | babilen | antgel: The filesystem was probably in an inconsistent state after the laptop lost its power. |
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| 12:02.05 | babilen | konverguoju: Probably -- There are a lot of people in this channel. |
| 12:02.16 | antgel | babilen: that's all good, but i don't see that as a reason for ata-level errors. just a bit worried, that's all |
| 12:02.40 | babilen | Sure, just gather the data, run the tests and you'll know more. |
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| 12:04.43 | jlu | hi, |
| 12:05.20 | ksk | hi |
| 12:05.49 | konverguoju | since Bumblebee has been branched in three projects: bumblebee-project, ironhide and debumblebee; which one of these is the latest and most advanced? I'm lost at this point |
| 12:05.55 | ksk | where does gnutls exptect certificates? wanted to make my vlc player accept my certificates.. |
| 12:06.42 | jlu | i have a problem to start the xserver. if i run Xorg -configure it ends with number of created screens does not match detected devices. what can i do? |
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| 12:11.04 | wittiko | i have a problem with the apt-mirror packages --> Use of uninitialized value $pid in numeric lt (<) at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 216. |
| 12:11.04 | wittiko | Use of uninitialized value $pid in numeric eq (==) at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 218. |
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| 12:11.33 | wittiko | version is 0.4.8-3 |
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| 12:19.09 | antgel | babilen: well, the smart error log has some UNC errors in and the short smart self-test completed with read failure at 10%. |
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| 12:19.29 | antgel | i think i need to run the western digital diagnostic tool if there is one and RMA the drive |
| 12:19.45 | antgel | babilen: thanks for the pointers (NB gsmartcontrol is a g-dsend!) |
| 12:19.54 | abrotman | waves at antgel |
| 12:19.57 | erawfish_ | antgel: all the harddisk maker tools only run a smart test, nothin else |
| 12:20.09 | antgel | abrotman: did you break my hard disk? :P |
| 12:20.33 | antgel | erawfish_: right. so i'll try and RMA it, and if they want a diag code from their tool, *then* i'll run their tool ;) |
| 12:20.35 | abrotman | antgel: prolly .. my mom said everything is my fault :) |
| 12:20.51 | antgel | abrotman: ouch |
| 12:21.06 | abrotman | kidding .. hopefully my mom isn't on irc |
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| 12:22.10 | antgel | i hope WDs guarantee / RMA procedure is sane. this drive isn't *that* old. according to smart, around 5700 hours before this episode |
| 12:22.16 | antgel | laptop is not really mistreated :) |
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| 12:24.44 | antgel | i haven't RMA'd any hard disk since i bought a bunch of 3.5" maxtors about six years ago :P |
| 12:24.54 | antgel | wow, i can even get the serial number from SMART, great |
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| 12:27.36 | abrotman | antgel: did you try dipping the drive in gravy? |
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| 12:29.44 | antgel | abrotman: then i put it in the freezer |
| 12:29.53 | antgel | i don't get this, maybe someone can shed some light |
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| 12:30.22 | abrotman | it's in the freezer .. it's dark in there |
| 12:31.15 | antgel | i go to western digital website, type the serial number, it tells me the drive is in warranty, i type my details in then it gives me a list of distributors. is the implication that i have to contact the distributor rather than deal direct with WD? |
| 12:31.31 | antgel | i'm in .il, so maybe they don't want to use our camel post service |
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| 12:32.38 | abrotman | antgel: IIRC, you RMA to whomever you bought it from? |
| 12:33.06 | antgel | abrotman: not in my experience. when i had maxtors, i dealt directly with maxtor |
| 12:33.16 | antgel | then they sent me lots of replacement shit hard disks :D |
| 12:34.55 | iderik | How do i start gnome? I've been using a tiled window manager for a while and now i cant remember how to change back to debian's default |
| 12:37.05 | waka | you mean gnome2? |
| 12:37.14 | mocra | xinitrc |
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| 12:37.56 | iderik | so just "exec gnome2"? |
| 12:38.07 | erawfish_ | startgnome IIRC, just check for such a file |
| 12:38.25 | erawfish_ | ah, gnome-session it see,s. it's startkde |
| 12:38.37 | waka | if you didn't uninstall it it should be there |
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| 12:38.57 | erawfish_ | iderik: you can use update-alternatives for x-window-manager |
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| 12:41.21 | waka | do you want gnome2 or 3? For me I only logged onto gnome3 once after updating my system a good 5 or so weeks ago and have been on fluxbox since then. |
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| 12:46.01 | waka | but i'm on unstable so i guess you can ignore me iderik |
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| 12:52.19 | qwertz___ | Hi, is there an easy way to encrypt data transfer when I use the rsync daemon for backups? |
| 12:52.33 | abrotman | yeah .. google "rsync ssh" |
| 12:52.36 | babilen | qwertz___: rsync+ssh? |
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| 12:54.11 | qwertz___ | babilen: thanks problem I can't login using root account (need to sudo) but need files that only root has access to |
| 12:54.40 | abrotman | why can't you login as root? |
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| 12:55.44 | burhan | doesn't have the password? |
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| 12:56.30 | abrotman | i asked him? |
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| 12:57.48 | babilen | burhan: Found something suitable? |
| 12:58.09 | balzac5000 | Has anyone played one of these RouterBoards http://routerboard.com/RB493G ? I'm wondering if such a thing can be used to provide extra network interfaces on a server that is out of slots for network cards. I'm wondering this is a way to add more interfaces via the USB port on the thing... |
| 12:58.16 | burhan | babilen: not really, reading up on puppet - but man its a lot of work to do something that's basically "point and click" in spacewalk. |
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| 12:59.16 | burhan | good thing is I have < 10 nodes so the puppet enterprise will work in case I need support. There is no demo that I can find for it. |
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| 13:13.59 | cousin_luigi | hello |
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| 13:18.46 | cousin_luigi | What do you think the problem is here: http://pastebin.com/DEmbTTsh ? (do I need to import a new GPG key or something?) |
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| 13:21.18 | ksk | nah, no pgp related stuff imho |
| 13:21.36 | ksk | id suggest trying another mirror |
| 13:21.37 | lapsusbrutus | I got a old T60 with vga that I want to connect to a screen with hdmi.. is there any way?? Guess that vga is analog only and hdmi digital only.. |
| 13:21.41 | cousin_luigi | ksk: ok |
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| 13:24.20 | jelly | lapsusbrutus: there are active adapters for that, price range $40 says google |
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| 13:25.50 | lapsusbrutus | jelly: ok thanks |
| 13:26.33 | cousin_luigi | ksk: that did the trick, thanks |
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| 13:36.38 | Osa2OsX | Hi all, I have a question on how to apt-update old debian 4. The etch 4 is no longer in the debian repos. but I need to update these. Can I change the lists somehow to archive.debian.org for updates? |
| 13:37.23 | Osa2OsX | and is it wise to update etch 4 to etch 5 via remote ssh? |
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| 13:38.26 | svenx | Osa2OsX: what about reinstall? |
| 13:38.38 | svenx | Osa2OsX: you can certainly use archive.debian.org for step-wise updates |
| 13:38.45 | svenx | but i'd rather reinstall |
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| 13:39.03 | Osa2OsX | I cannot it is a vps server hosted with a firm. and the refuse to do updates. So I managed to get ssh connection now. to do the updates myself. |
| 13:39.11 | Osa2OsX | So i do apt-get update |
| 13:39.26 | Osa2OsX | but is shows the repositorys are obsolete for etch4 |
| 13:40.16 | Osa2OsX | can I just change the etc/apt/sources.list file with archive.debian.org? |
| 13:40.51 | pizza_biz | if you have an etch repo, yes, that's where you'd place it. |
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| 13:41.17 | Osa2OsX | Only I don't know if the archive.debian.org has the correct repos |
| 13:42.14 | pizza_biz | btw, etch is debian 4. release 5 is lenny. (not sure what you mean up there by "etch 5"). |
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| 13:42.35 | Osa2OsX | I have sevral websites running with this ISP php is 5.0.1 at the moment and they charge 90$ to update this to 5.2.0 |
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| 13:42.45 | Osa2OsX | So, now I want to do this myself. |
| 13:43.37 | Osa2OsX | I have some knowledge about linux but not debian. |
| 13:43.37 | jelly | Osa2OsX: that site has repos to get etch to latest available packages that were in etch at the time of its retirement |
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| 13:44.30 | Osa2OsX | jelly you mean the archive.debian.org or the one that is in sourceS.list |
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| 13:45.12 | pizza_biz | there may be third party repos that provide newer versions of php5-* for etch, but YMMV. |
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| 13:45.41 | Osa2OsX | what is YMMV ?? |
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| 13:46.07 | joltcan | Osa2OsX: Your Milage May Vary |
| 13:46.11 | pizza_biz | "Your Mileage May Vary" -- results not guaranteed. |
| 13:46.53 | Osa2OsX | Okay, So I thake the plunge and upgrade etch 4 to etch 5 |
| 13:47.29 | pizza_biz | you mean lenny? |
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| 13:47.47 | Osa2OsX | yes, I mean lenny |
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| 13:48.00 | Osa2OsX | etch to lenny |
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| 13:49.00 | Osa2OsX | aptitude update |
| 13:49.31 | Osa2OsX | aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 13:49.37 | Osa2OsX | I think this might work |
| 13:49.53 | jlu | hi, i can't change the channel in irssi by pressing alt+number. |
| 13:50.24 | jlu | i have to press strg+esc and after that the number. how can i change that behaviour? |
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| 13:53.03 | pizza_biz | Osa2OsX: with aptitude, i think it's full-upgrade, but you need to make a few modifications and preliminary updates before doing that. something like this is a howto in a nutshell: http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-upgrade-from-debian-etch-40-to-lenny-50.html |
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| 13:55.01 | dkarampin | can anyone have a look here: http://pastebin.com/UK1FjLtU |
| 13:55.10 | dkarampin | I can't make php+apache work |
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| 13:56.59 | abrotman | did you install libapache2-mod-php5 ? |
| 13:57.49 | dkarampin | abrotman: hmm... yes, (btw, is the pastebin url visible ?) |
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| 13:58.18 | corretico_ | hi |
| 13:59.07 | corretico_ | how i can to fix /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward = 0 |
| 13:59.25 | jelly | corretico_: /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 13:59.49 | jelly | if you're asking how to change the setting permanently |
| 13:59.53 | aucabarcas | hi, someone knows a serial terminal program other than minicom,gtkterm and moserial (no way putty) that can let me access a cisco sw/router? |
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| 13:59.58 | Osa2OsX | how can I tell what php version is currently installed? |
| 14:00.24 | corretico_ | jelly, yes permanently |
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| 14:00.39 | pizza_biz | "php -v" if you have php#-cli installed. |
| 14:00.39 | jelly | Osa2OsX: pastebin the output of dpkg -l dpkg libc6 '*php*' |
| 14:00.41 | ksk | Osa2OsX: php --version |
| 14:00.53 | jelly | oops |
| 14:00.57 | jelly | Osa2OsX: pastebin the output of dpkg -l dpkg libc6 '*php*' | grep '^.i' |
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| 14:01.31 | ksk | jelly: why libc? |
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| 14:01.47 | Osa2OsX | I'm shure all your commands work the php --version was the shortest :-) |
| 14:01.48 | abrotman | dkarampin: a2enmod php5 ? |
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| 14:02.06 | ksk | -v is shorter dude |
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| 14:03.25 | dkarampin | abrotman: do you see this (sorry, sometimes urls are not displayed) -->> http://pastebin.com/UK1FjLtU ? |
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| 14:06.11 | abrotman | dkarampin: let me look |
| 14:08.26 | jelly | ksk: versions of dpkg, libc6 are a good way to ascertain the Debian release |
| 14:08.33 | abrotman | dkarampin: is your system fully up to date? put your sources.list in a pastebin also |
| 14:08.55 | ksk | ah, okay. |
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| 14:09.42 | dkarampin | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/jNNrdZjU |
| 14:09.53 | corretico_ | <jelly> accept_redirects works for me but send_redirects no |
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| 14:11.30 | hatchetjack | anyone know of a problem with lenny's archive key? |
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| 14:13.13 | abrotman | dkarampin: mixing versions of Debian isn't a great plan .. try just picking one |
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| 14:14.12 | hatchetjack | abrotman: enjoying the PA snow yet? |
| 14:15.16 | dkarampin | abrotman: a month ago, I joined here and someone helped me to change my sources list. actually I replaced every 'testing' word with a release name. I thought it was fine |
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| 14:15.21 | abrotman | uhm .. it snowed once, and about 1/2 cm where i live |
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| 14:15.33 | abrotman | dkarampin: you're still mixing wheezy and sid |
| 14:16.32 | dkarampin | abrotman: can you tell me how it should be ? use 'wheezy' or not ? |
| 14:16.36 | hatchetjack | abrotman: okay |
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| 14:17.06 | abrotman | dkarampin: use wheezy, comment out the sid lines .. |
| 14:17.09 | hatchetjack | dkarampin: I think he is just saying use ONE |
| 14:17.16 | hatchetjack | not both |
| 14:17.25 | hatchetjack | use all wheezy and no sid |
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| 14:18.15 | dkarampin | ok |
| 14:18.22 | dkarampin | so, just 1 repo... |
| 14:18.29 | willemb | Can someone give me some pointers regarding ftpsync seemingly not working well under cron ? |
| 14:18.30 | dkarampin | 2 (+ multimedia) |
| 14:18.40 | Osa2OsX | when I do a aptitude update I get following error http://pastebin.com/76W2Sp04 |
| 14:18.46 | willemb | I always get rsync connection reset by peer errors in my logs |
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| 14:19.45 | konverguoju | hello, anybody has tried their luck with debumblebee? when trying to optirun I get en error, xorg.8.log tells: [ 217.349] (II) Loading extension DRI2 |
| 14:19.46 | konverguoju | [ 217.349] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" |
| 14:19.46 | konverguoju | [ 217.350] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia |
| 14:19.46 | konverguoju | [ 217.350] (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" |
| 14:19.46 | konverguoju | [ 217.350] (II) Unloading nvidia |
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| 14:20.26 | masterkorp | hello, what happenned to /etc/aliases.db ? I just installed postfix, and he strugles to finf aliases.db |
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| 14:20.51 | abrotman | masterkorp: you mean /etc/aliases ? |
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| 14:22.29 | wfq | hi guys |
| 14:22.31 | LtL | masterkorp: iirc, it's in /etc/postfix/ |
| 14:22.49 | masterkorp | abrotman: yeah |
| 14:23.00 | masterkorp | LtL: idk, its a default param |
| 14:23.25 | masterkorp | when i installed postfix it got my /etc/aliases filled it |
| 14:23.26 | masterkorp | *in |
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| 14:23.46 | masterkorp | and postconf | grep aliases shows that it points to there |
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| 14:24.58 | abrotman | masterkorp: did you run the program to generate teh aliases.db ? |
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| 14:26.10 | Osa2OsX | The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA |
| 14:26.16 | masterkorp | abrotman: yeah |
| 14:26.35 | Osa2OsX | I then try a gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 473041FA |
| 14:26.40 | Osa2OsX | no result |
| 14:26.47 | masterkorp | abrotman: but idk why it looks for /etc/aliases.db instead of just aliases |
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| 14:27.11 | StaRetji1 | hello folks, can someone help me out with debian install on 2TB GPT drive. Installation went well, without errors, but I can' boot debian |
| 14:27.51 | StaRetji1 | I've googled for booting gpt partitioned drive, but so far I was not able to make it work |
| 14:28.09 | StaRetji1 | that is the only drive, and only OS on PC |
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| 14:30.05 | LtL | masterkorp: aliases.db is part of postfix as I remember, and abrotman is right, it's generated by postfix using postaliases or something like that. |
| 14:31.10 | masterkorp | LtL: oh, i moved the aliases to /etc/postfix/aliases and now works |
| 14:31.22 | masterkorp | maybe was some persmission problem |
| 14:31.44 | masterkorp | i just dont know why the default debian install edited my /etc/aliases |
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| 14:35.13 | LtL | masterkorp: postfix would add itself to /etc/aliases but the program used to require it's own aliases.db, it's been years since I set that up, suggest you read the files in /etc/postfix thoroughly. |
| 14:35.21 | amphi | StaRetji1: did you make a 'bios boot partition'? I believe grub needs that to boot off a GPT disk |
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| 14:36.48 | masterkorp | LtL: i have now a /etc/postfix/aliases7 |
| 14:37.14 | Osa2OsX | Reading package lists... Done |
| 14:37.14 | Osa2OsX | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA |
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| 14:37.37 | masterkorp | i i run postalias on it, but postconf | grep aliases still shows the one in /etc/ |
| 14:37.55 | masterkorp | i also restarted postfix |
| 14:37.58 | babilen | Osa2OsX: Which versions of Debian are you using? |
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| 14:40.29 | Osa2OsX | babilen etch debia 4.0 |
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| 14:40.50 | babilen | Osa2OsX: First of all: You want to upgrade your system to squeeze ASAP |
| 14:40.55 | Kobaz | so i upgraded some packages and now postgres is really unhappy |
| 14:40.58 | babilen | !tell Osa2OsX about etch sources |
| 14:41.04 | Kobaz | psql: FATAL: database locale is incompatible with operating system DETAIL: The database was initialized with LC_CTYPE "en_US", which is not recognized by setlocale(). |
| 14:41.06 | Osa2OsX | babilen: I'm in the process of upgrading |
| 14:41.15 | babilen | !tell Osa2OsX about etch sources.list |
| 14:41.37 | Osa2OsX | I now they are achived |
| 14:41.50 | Osa2OsX | I've adde aptitude install debian-archive-keyring this is working |
| 14:42.00 | Osa2OsX | I'm aptitude upgrade right now |
| 14:42.08 | babilen | Osa2OsX: Make sure that you upgrade to lenny first. (/msg dpkg etch->lenny) and then to squeeze (/msg dpkg lenny->squeeze) -- I would also consider a fresh squeeze installation, but that is not necessarily your best option. |
| 14:42.51 | Osa2OsX | I'm upgrading to lenny |
| 14:42.55 | babilen | Osa2OsX: You need a new debian-archive-keyring version -- I would also promptly remove *all* traces of "stable" in your sources.list and replace them with "etch" as "stable" == "squeeze" right now. |
| 14:43.27 | babilen | Kobaz: Use a supported locale |
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| 14:43.46 | Osa2OsX | It is a vps server which is not updated since long time (the company hosting it doesn't want updates) I'm in the process of leaving them for a new company which do upgrades regular |
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| 14:44.05 | babilen | Osa2OsX: That is a very good idea |
| 14:44.12 | Osa2OsX | or maybe change them in lenny |
| 14:44.42 | babilen | Osa2OsX: etch hasn't been supported by Debian for quite some time now. (i.e. no security upgrades whatsoever) |
| 14:44.49 | Osa2OsX | Sh*t, I have done an aptitude update with stable is this bad? |
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| 14:46.10 | tripolar | hi |
| 14:46.34 | tripolar | when i try to install a program - with cmake i get this error |
| 14:46.35 | tripolar | Could NOT find Threads (missing: Threads_FOUND) |
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| 14:46.42 | tripolar | which package am i missing? |
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| 14:49.09 | jhutchins_lt | Oooh, oooh, a guessing game! |
| 14:49.16 | willemb | I suspect php-pear to be broken. It finds no packages. Where should I look for clues? |
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| 14:49.36 | Osa2OsX | is it a bad thing to aptitude update with stable in sources.list? I tought stable whould be lenny but it is not |
| 14:49.50 | LtL | tripolar: build-essential perhaps |
| 14:50.22 | petemc | Osa2OsX: change it back to etch then run aptitude update again |
| 14:50.32 | babilen | Osa2OsX: "stable" is "squeeze" right now. I *strongly* recommend to change "stable" to "etch" ASAP |
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| 14:51.40 | tripolar | LtL: i allready installed it |
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| 14:52.24 | Osa2OsX | babilen If I want to update to lenny shouldn't I change "stable" to "lenny" ? |
| 14:52.31 | babilen | tripolar: Programs typically list their build requirements in INSTALL or so. Which program is this? What is the complete output? (→ http://paste.debian.net ) |
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| 14:52.46 | LtL | triplicate: no idea then, sorry. |
| 14:53.02 | babilen | Osa2OsX: If you are at that point in the release notes, then yes. Which section/chapter are you working on right now? |
| 14:53.21 | jhutchins_lt | !etch sources.list |
| 14:53.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, etch sources.list is "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security etch/updates main contrib non-free". But realise that Etch has not had security support since February 2010 and that you should upgrade to a newer release. Ask me about <etch->lenny>. |
| 14:53.25 | Osa2OsX | babilen: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-upgrade-debian-linux-4etch-to-5lenny-server.html |
| 14:53.34 | tripolar | target_link_libraries( |
| 14:53.34 | tripolar | compt1 |
| 14:53.34 | tripolar | ${CMAKE_THREAD_LIBS_INIT} |
| 14:53.35 | babilen | *argh* |
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| 14:53.44 | tripolar | @babilen |
| 14:53.54 | tripolar | this seem to be the lines that create the "error" |
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| 14:54.02 | tripolar | cmake on gentoo finds the threadlib |
| 14:54.21 | babilen | Osa2OsX: Please do not follow random tutorials, but the official release notes. http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ |
| 14:54.30 | babilen | dpkg: tell Osa2OsX about etch->lenny |
| 14:54.50 | tripolar | babilen i need cmake to find the threads lib |
| 14:55.10 | babilen | Osa2OsX: That is, in particular, important if once you upgrade from lenny to squeeze |
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| 14:56.18 | tripolar | babilen: debian seems to be like windows :D - a reboot fixed it ... |
| 14:57.03 | babilen | tripolar: Which software are you compiling? |
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| 15:02.20 | LtL | tripolar: blasphemy! |
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| 15:03.15 | b_jonas | is there some stock solution for debian where I can allow a user to run an inetd-based service such that that user is allowed to enable and disable that service any time? |
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| 15:04.16 | LtL | b_jonas: a fancy entry in /etc/sudoers would .. maybe |
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| 15:04.27 | b_jonas | probably that, yes |
| 15:04.35 | b_jonas | an entry for some update-inetd command in sudoers |
| 15:04.55 | b_jonas | does update-inetd send a SIGHUP to inetd so it rereads the config file immediately? |
| 15:05.33 | LtL | b_jonas: remember to use visudo, and yes to your question, atleast I believe so. |
| 15:05.41 | b_jonas | okay |
| 15:05.42 | b_jonas | thanks |
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| 15:07.00 | b_jonas | I mean, if I want to disable the service, I can just make the program inetd starts exit immediately; but if inetd didn't listen, then the client would get a clearer error |
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| 15:14.34 | ska | I got quite a few of these during an upgrade: error: superfluous RAID member (2 found)., will this cause booting problems? |
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| 15:15.39 | ska | I see the problem has been patched, but just curious if it can cause any problems on my running system. |
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| 15:24.47 | melik | hey guys is there a command that can check the health of a mount point? |
| 15:25.08 | melik | i cd'd into a directory.. and 'ls' just hangs |
| 15:25.17 | petemc | check dmesg/syslog/messages |
| 15:25.18 | cthuluh | nfs? |
| 15:25.33 | melik | nope ext2 |
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| 15:30.39 | jelly | melik: can you kill -9 that process? |
| 15:30.59 | cthuluh | kill -9 can't kill a process that is stucked in the 'D' state |
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| 15:31.12 | jelly | that's exactly why I'm asking |
| 15:31.16 | melik | jelly, i can't |
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| 15:31.26 | jelly | melik: do what petemc said, then |
| 15:31.37 | cthuluh | then using kill -9 is useless and can bite you in the ass if you take this bad habit |
| 15:31.48 | melik | there are also tons of rsync processes that are in D state |
| 15:31.51 | jelly | cthuluh: it's not useless |
| 15:32.15 | cthuluh | what can it be used for? |
| 15:32.23 | jelly | cthuluh: it can be useful exactly to figure out whether io is hung in kernel, or the userspace is at fault |
| 15:33.24 | cthuluh | kill "$pid"; <check if process has exited>; <launch 'top' if it didn't> |
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| 15:34.28 | rjka | Hi. I wanted to change my default sound card, so I created a file /etc/asound.conf accordingly to a guide on ALSA wiki. It worked but since then I cannot use the 2 multimedia keys on keyboard to turn the volume up and down. They used to work before. Anybody know how to fix that? I have Logitech S510 keyboard. |
| 15:34.52 | jelly | melik: so have you checked kernel logs yet? |
| 15:34.58 | melik | jelly, |
| 15:34.59 | melik | iam right now |
| 15:35.12 | cthuluh | rjka: maybe should you try to load your sound module using an "index=" parameter |
| 15:35.43 | rjka | cthuluh, How exactly can I do that? |
| 15:35.48 | jelly | melik: if you're still able to access /var/log/kern.log, it might be nicer to use than "dmesg" command since it has timestamps |
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| 15:36.17 | cthuluh | rjka: something to add in /etc/modprobe.d/, plus an update-initramfs -u |
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| 15:36.40 | rjka | cthuluh, Okay, I will try to find the exact code on the web. |
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| 15:36.58 | melik | May 21 14:15:30 HOSTNAME kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sde1, logical block 136314875 |
| 15:37.04 | melik | yep I/O error |
| 15:37.04 | ketsa | Hi all, i have a dependency problem after an upgrade to wheezy and no idea where to start to fix this. lots of stuff no longer working, aptitude apt-get or synaptic are unable to complete the upgrade... |
| 15:37.19 | cthuluh | rjka: $SEARCH_ENGINE debian change default sound card |
| 15:37.43 | cthuluh | ketsa: are you running aptitude safe-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade? |
| 15:38.28 | rjka | cthuluh, But I changed the default sound card successfully. The problem is that now the keys aren't working. |
| 15:38.33 | jhutchins_lt | ketsa: Congratulations! Your test of the testing release was successful and found a problem! |
| 15:38.43 | melik | wait:s thats may 21 :S |
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| 15:39.16 | melik | WTFFFF kern.log hasn't been updated since 2008 |
| 15:39.34 | ketsa | :p aptitude asked to try a full-upgrade, wich ended in a perl error message endless loop |
| 15:40.01 | cthuluh | rjka: yup, but I suspect that the software (your DE) that you use 1) uses a hardcoded value for your sound card. 2) has a setting to choose the sound card to tune ; since I believe you didn't find this setting, I thought about using the most low-level solution |
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| 15:41.40 | jhutchins_lt | ketsa: aptitude was not recommended for upgrading lenny to squeeze. |
| 15:42.01 | themill | ketsa: Can you put the output in a pastebin for us please? |
| 15:42.04 | rjka | cthuluh, So I believe you are advising me to do Troubleshooting --> method 1 from http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA. right? |
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| 15:43.35 | cthuluh | rjka: seems like I did |
| 15:43.39 | themill | !dbugs 638950 |
| 15:43.45 | dpkg | #638950:I[libtext-wrapi18n-perl] libtext-wrapi18n-perl: Fail to upload from stable to testing: Use of uninitialized value $text in concatenation (); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:21:15 UTC [] |
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| 15:44.14 | breardo | hello |
| 15:44.33 | breardo | curious... i'm wondering what I can do to determine whats causing my error count on a bonded interface to continually increment |
| 15:44.38 | breardo | netstat -s doesnt show errors |
| 15:44.48 | breardo | well, it does, but it doesnt show any related ot the bond0 interface |
| 15:45.49 | breardo | drops also increments, but not as fast as errors |
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| 15:47.58 | rjka | cthuluh, If "cat /proc/asound/cards" produces "1 [Audigy2 ]: Audigy2 - SB Audigy 2 Value [SB0400] ..." then should I put "options Audigy2 index=0" or "options snd-Audigy2 index=0" in /etc/modprobe.d/sound ? |
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| 15:48.30 | ketsa | this is the result of aptitude upgrade --full-resolver http://pastebin.com/MkSEq4mB if you need anything else let me know |
| 15:48.31 | becker_11 | I've been having some temperature issues with my laptop & I've just put new thermal paste on the heatsink etc, I've got lm-sensors installed but I don't know how to check the temps can anyone point me in the right direction pls? |
| 15:48.45 | cthuluh | rjka: the latter sounds correct. I don't know the exact name of your driver |
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| 15:49.16 | rjka | cthuluh, How can I find that name? |
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| 15:49.54 | themill | ketsa: try "LANG=C apt-get -f install; LANG=C apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 15:50.13 | ska | I got quite a few of these during an upgrade: error: "superfluous RAID member (2 found)", will this cause booting problems? |
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| 15:50.50 | themill | ketsa: I don't know why the debconf db would be locked though. Do you have another apt or dpkg run active somewhere? |
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| 15:52.13 | rjka | cthuluh, I created the file, then did update-initramfs -u and nothing changed. |
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| 15:52.24 | ketsa | nothing else open |
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| 15:52.52 | ketsa | i had to close the terminal with the endless loop however |
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| 15:53.12 | ketsa | maybe the process has not been killed. |
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| 15:53.46 | ketsa | result of "LANG=C apt-get -f install; LANG=C apt-get dist-upgrade" : http://pastebin.com/ngVnNc9t |
| 15:53.59 | ketsa | says " try -f" i do this ? |
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| 15:56.14 | Viliny | hello |
| 15:56.37 | Viliny | been trying to get audio to work for 2 days now, i started with ubuntu 11.10, then 10.04 and now i switched to debian |
| 15:56.53 | Viliny | tried every troubleshooting guide i could find |
| 15:57.04 | Viliny | done tons of stuff, no difference |
| 15:57.13 | rjka | Multimedia keys from my keyboard that used to turn the system audio volume up and down stopped working. Anybody knows how to fix that? THey have worked until I created /etc/asound.conf to change the default sound card. |
| 15:57.26 | Viliny | now i can't even start alsamixer in debian - just tells me that it can't find a program or folder called alsamixer |
| 15:57.36 | Viliny | im using a asus microatx with alc887 |
| 15:57.37 | themill | ketsa: yeah, you've already done that. does "LANG=C aptitude -f full-upgrade" help? |
| 15:58.07 | themill | hopes aptitude is smart enough to solve the problem |
| 15:58.11 | cthuluh | rjka: then you probably need to reboot :) |
| 15:58.47 | rjka | cthuluh, Should I remove /etc/asound.conf? |
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| 15:58.57 | ketsa | i still had the stuck process, i killed it and am now running with -f, its downloading packages so far |
| 15:59.17 | themill | ok |
| 15:59.26 | cthuluh | rjka: make a backup first :) |
| 15:59.39 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Is it possible (if not likely) that the updated packages just aren't there yet? |
| 15:59.48 | rjka | cthuluh, Yeah, I did that : ). |
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| 15:59.55 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions perlapi |
| 15:59.56 | judd | No package named 'perlapi' was found in i386. |
| 16:00.01 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions perlapi-5 |
| 16:00.02 | themill | judd: no |
| 16:00.03 | judd | No package named 'perlapi-5' was found in i386. |
| 16:00.09 | themill | jhutchins_lt: no |
| 16:00.14 | melik | jelly, cthuluh thank you for the help; the filesystem has suffered an I/O error. |
| 16:00.25 | ketsa | E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'linux-headers-2.6-amd64'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
| 16:00.27 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions perl-base |
| 16:00.28 | judd | Package: perl-base on i386 -- lenny: 5.10.0-19lenny3; lenny-proposed-updates: 5.10.0-19lenny5; lenny-security: 5.10.0-19lenny5; squeeze: 5.10.1-17squeeze2; squeeze-security: 5.10.1-17squeeze2; sid: 5.12.4-6; wheezy: 5.12.4-6; experimental: 5.14.2-1 |
| 16:00.32 | melik | that is why the rsync backup scripts were hanging |
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| 16:01.07 | jelly | melik: did it at least remount itself read-only |
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| 16:01.18 | themill | ketsa: and does "aptitude -o 'APT::Immediate-Configure=false' -f full-upgrade" help? |
| 16:01.26 | cthuluh | melik: btw, maybe should you consider the use of a journaled file system instead of ext2 |
| 16:02.04 | jhutchins_lt | Viliny: If it can't find alsamixer perhaps you need to reinstall alsa. Was one of the things you tried removing packages? |
| 16:02.10 | melik | jelly, i checked /etc/fstab and it doesn't have the parameter errors=remount-ro |
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| 16:02.25 | rjka | cthuluh, It didn't help. |
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| 16:02.49 | Viliny | jhutchins_lt: the only thing i did on debian at this point was: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=59680 |
| 16:02.50 | jelly | melik: that's pretty much a kernel default. |
| 16:02.51 | melik | cthuluh, yes I know; i don't know who set up a ext2 filesystem; i just began working here a few months ago |
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| 16:02.54 | Viliny | the thing he recommends there |
| 16:03.05 | cthuluh | rjka: weird… do you at get sound out of the correct card? |
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| 16:03.10 | Viliny | tried reinstalling alsa with purging but no difference |
| 16:03.14 | ketsa | E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libasound2, probably a dependency cycle. |
| 16:03.14 | cthuluh | rjka: at least* |
| 16:03.14 | jhutchins_lt | !alsa checklist |
| 16:03.16 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer to unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense if available) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 16:03.40 | melik | jelly, i do not think so |
| 16:03.47 | Viliny | thank you jhutchins |
| 16:03.50 | melik | i can't access the filesystem |
| 16:04.00 | rjka | cthuluh, No, now the default card is the wrong one. I have no sound at all. Maybe I should write other parameter after options? |
| 16:04.10 | themill | ketsa: can you put the entire output in a pastebin for me? |
| 16:04.11 | jelly | melik: that can happen what the disk underneath it dies, yes |
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| 16:04.34 | ketsa | ok, so what is best practice, use apt-get or aptitude ? |
| 16:04.41 | melik | jelly, do you think the disc is dead? |
| 16:04.45 | jelly | melik: IO errors usually mean there's a hardware issue |
| 16:04.58 | rjka | Now /etc/modprobe.d/sound is like that http://paste.debian.net/142374/ . |
| 16:05.19 | themill | ketsa: depends on the situation. For lenny->squeeze, use apt-get. For squeeze->wheezy, apt-get is probably better. For icky dependencies that are a little borked, probably aptitude is best. |
| 16:05.22 | melik | well jelly i do not know if its an actual IO error; i checked all the log files (syslog, messages, kern.log, dmesg) but couldn't find information |
| 16:05.51 | jhutchins_lt | Viliny: If you installed non-debian packages, especially by bypassing the dpkg system, it's hard to tell if something went wrong during the build & install process. |
| 16:06.15 | jelly | melik: if the filesystem for /var/log/kern.log was not affected, can you pastebin some of that? |
| 16:06.32 | ketsa | http://pastebin.com/WGrxYDHg |
| 16:07.09 | Viliny | jhutchins_lt: yeah, think i'll just reinstall once this depression and headache goes away :p prolly tomorrow again, thank you for the help |
| 16:07.21 | jhutchins_lt | Viliny: Good luck. |
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| 16:09.06 | rjka | cthuluh, Oh and I didn't mention: when I press keyboard key to turn the volume up, Gnome shows up a box with volume bar, but the bar is empty and nothing changes. But that means that keyboard output is detected fine. |
| 16:10.10 | cthuluh | rjka: ok. btw, is your audigy card an internal card, hence do you really want it to be the default card? |
| 16:10.16 | themill | ketsa: ok... it's going to be a bit of manual fun instead. try "dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-2.6-amd64*.deb" as a first step |
| 16:10.52 | cthuluh | rjka: if so, making it the default sound card using index=0 is (imho) the best (as in most straight-forward) way to achieve your goal. |
| 16:11.10 | rjka | cthuluh, I have 2 audio cards. One is on motherboard and I turned it off in BIOS. The second is Creative Audigy 2 and I want it be my default card. |
| 16:11.39 | melik | jelly, :scsi_mod:scsi_error_handler+0x0/0xa81 what do you think about that? |
| 16:11.46 | rjka | cthuluh, It probably is but I'm not sure what parameter should I put in "options <parameter> index=0". |
| 16:11.51 | themill | ketsa: btw, please do keep prefixing commands with LANG=C so my bad French doesn't get too much practice :) |
| 16:11.59 | jelly | melik: not enough context |
| 16:12.18 | cthuluh | rjka: in your example, parameter=<the actual kenel module name> |
| 16:12.32 | jelly | melik: pastebin a couple hundred lines |
| 16:12.49 | rjka | cthuluh, I don't know that name. How can I find it? |
| 16:12.53 | cthuluh | rjka: but I don't get it, if your mobo's card is no activated in the bios, linux shouldn't try to load its module |
| 16:13.02 | cthuluh | rjka: lsmod, lspci -k |
| 16:13.48 | TheWarden | If I have a Xeon would one use AMD64 of Debian? |
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| 16:13.57 | cthuluh | rjka: and if linux doesn't try to load the module for your mobo's sound card, then your audigy card should be the only one on your system, thus it should be loaded with index=0 |
| 16:13.58 | rjka | cthuluh, I don't get it too. But before deactivating it, there were 4 entries in /proc/asound/cards. After deactivating there are only 2. |
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| 16:14.10 | ketsa | http://pastebin.com/CBSdsY3F looks bad :/ |
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| 16:14.38 | cthuluh | rjka: but aplay -l still lists your audigy card as having index!=0? |
| 16:14.50 | joeoshawa | i installed ssh on a computer but when i shh to that machine it will not accept the password |
| 16:15.07 | joeoshawa | i can ssh localhost but not over the network |
| 16:15.22 | melik | jelly, http://ompldr.org/vYjQybQ/pasta |
| 16:15.41 | cthuluh | joeoshawa: did you change anything to your /etc/ssh/sshd_config? |
| 16:15.43 | rjka | cthuluh, aplay -l list Audigy2 as #1, the #0 is the other controller (card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]). |
| 16:15.49 | jelly | melik: your qlogic FC card driver barfed |
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| 16:16.30 | rjka | cthuluh, Guess that's the driver name: Kernel driver in use: EMU10K1_Audigy. |
| 16:16.41 | themill | ketsa: ok... expand the packages that you're installing a little "dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers*.deb" |
| 16:16.41 | cthuluh | rjka: ok. can you paste the output of lspci -k, and then take a look at your persistent udev rules? |
| 16:16.42 | joeoshawa | i just did now RSAAutentication no PasswordAuthentication yes |
| 16:16.42 | jelly | melik: THAT can make access to LUNs connected over the SAN break for some reason! |
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| 16:17.17 | joeoshawa | made no difference |
| 16:17.20 | babilen | TheWarden: Depends, not all support 64bit -- Run "grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo" to make sure. Which Xeon is it? |
| 16:17.23 | jelly | melik: that etch kernel is quite old. |
| 16:17.49 | joeoshawa | i tried it right after install and same result |
| 16:17.54 | cthuluh | joeoshawa: default settings are ok. so you must have changed somehting else, or you're trying to log in as a different user |
| 16:17.55 | rjka | cthuluh, That's lspci -k: http://paste.debian.net/142378/ |
| 16:17.56 | melik | jelly, 09:17:43 up 339 days, 21:40, 4 users, load average: 65.27, 65.24, 64.94 |
| 16:18.05 | joeoshawa | nope |
| 16:18.12 | jelly | melik: reboot. Use the button. |
| 16:18.14 | joeoshawa | default doesn't work |
| 16:18.20 | melik | crazy load averages no? |
| 16:18.21 | joeoshawa | never did |
| 16:18.23 | rjka | cthuluh, I don't know how to find udev rules. Can you tell me? |
| 16:18.28 | jhutchins_lt | melik: Sounds like it needs a kernel update. |
| 16:18.31 | joeoshawa | i know what i changed |
| 16:18.42 | jelly | melik: no, that's expected when a disk dies |
| 16:18.56 | cthuluh | rjka: right, seems like it is EMU10K1_Audigy ; just try to change this in your /etc/modprobe.d/<file>, update-initramfs -u, then reboot |
| 16:18.58 | melik | yeah jelly so many processes have hanged because of it |
| 16:19.10 | joeoshawa | i can purge it and reinstall and get the same result |
| 16:19.12 | cthuluh | rjka: if that doesn't work, then we'll have a look at your udev rules |
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| 16:19.36 | ketsa | http://pastebin.com/UcAbUYjh |
| 16:19.42 | jelly | melik: each process waiting for IO = +1 on load average |
| 16:19.51 | jhutchins_lt | joeoshawa: Have you read the README.Debian for OpenSSH? |
| 16:19.58 | ketsa | I think there's no going back to squeeze right ? |
| 16:20.00 | joeoshawa | and everything is commented out in the ssh_config by default |
| 16:20.08 | aidaho | Hi. I am looking for alternative keyboard switcher/tray indicator for Trinity DE. axi-cache proposed kkbswitch, but I can't afford to waste 50Mb of space for kdelibs4. Can somebody suggest more lightweight switcher/indicator? Thanks. |
| 16:20.21 | themill | ketsa: you're well past that |
| 16:20.42 | babilen | ketsa: You don't want linux-headers-2.6-* and linuex-image-2.6-* as those depend on the 2.6 kernels which are not in wheezy/sid |
| 16:21.15 | themill | babilen: unfortunately, they're the ones that did install cleanly :( |
| 16:21.20 | ketsa | i can try to remove that |
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| 16:21.31 | joeoshawa | checked the wiki will look at the readme what dir is it in /etc/ssh/ ? |
| 16:21.40 | cthuluh | joeoshawa: watch out for gremlins :) |
| 16:21.41 | jelly | melik: our hp proliants can be configured to reboot by themselves if they get a NMI / hang like that |
| 16:21.50 | themill | ketsa: try removing all the headers packages, actually. You can always reinstall them later. |
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| 16:22.13 | jhutchins_lt | joeoshawa: /usr/share/doc/openssh-server/ |
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| 16:22.32 | themill | can feel a --force=remove-reinstreq coming on ;( |
| 16:22.42 | jelly | melik: I'd use that reboot cycle to upgrade to kernel from Debian 5. (kernel only!) |
| 16:22.54 | jelly | if possible |
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| 16:23.14 | melik | damn yeah its a really old kernel |
| 16:23.17 | melik | 2.6.18 |
| 16:23.35 | TheWarden | babilen: looking at purchasing a Xeon processor and I Want to install Debian 64-bit. So I was making sure I could do that. |
| 16:23.59 | melik | TheWarden, what type of Xeon |
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| 16:24.13 | babilen | TheWarden: Unless you buy old ones (pre 2004) you should be fine |
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| 16:24.31 | cwebber | is it possible to tell apt to only go to repo X for a certain package? IE I want to run rt4 but would rather pull it down from unstable than compile it myself |
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| 16:25.03 | jelly | TheWarden: all Xeon branded CPU-s from Core generation onwards have 64bit capabilities. Some of P4 models, too. |
| 16:25.06 | gele | is there a way to "reformat" a luks partition, i.e. change the master key, in place? or is the only way to create a new partition or file of the same size, luksFormat that with a new master key, luksOpen both partitions, copy all data over to the new one, luksClose them, then copy the encrypted data back to the old partition? |
| 16:25.11 | joeoshawa | not there |
| 16:25.27 | rjka | cthuluh, Keyboard still not working. And when I ran alsamixer the default device is HDMI controller, not Audigy2. |
| 16:25.28 | jhutchins_lt | cwebber: That is called frankendebian and leads to reinstalls. |
| 16:25.30 | TheWarden | babilen: This is what I was looking at purchasing, INTEL XEON 5507 2.26GHZ C4 1366 RET PROCESSOR |
| 16:25.37 | themill | cwebber: that package is in backports; /msg dpkg squeeze-backports |
| 16:25.42 | babilen | TheWarden: Yeah, no problem with that one. |
| 16:26.10 | TheWarden | babilen: okay so you are saying that I would use Debian AMD64? |
| 16:26.18 | TheWarden | babilen: with that processor |
| 16:26.35 | babilen | yes |
| 16:26.45 | cwebber | hmmm... I am thinking I need to RTFM. Is anyone aware of a doc that explains the whole backports/unstable/testing thing? |
| 16:27.01 | themill | cwebber: the backports website |
| 16:27.03 | ketsa | http://pastebin.com/hjRjz3Lh |
| 16:27.25 | ketsa | looks like i will need to reinstall ? |
| 16:27.26 | TheWarden | jelly: I'm just looking to see what Debian would work with that processor before purchasing it as I need it to be on 64-bit |
| 16:27.32 | cthuluh | rjka: ok... read carefully http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA#Troubleshooting , what we did so far may not be enough. fyi, I'll be afk for an unknown amount of time. good luck |
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| 16:27.57 | jelly | TheWarden: if it doesn't work, it won't be the CPU to fault |
| 16:28.09 | rjka | cthuluh, Thank you for helping : ). |
| 16:28.20 | cwebber | themill: thanks |
| 16:28.22 | jelly | TheWarden: http://ark.intel.com/products/37100/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5507-(4M-Cache-2_26-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI) |
| 16:28.24 | cwebber | jhutchins_lt: thanks |
| 16:28.29 | themill | ketsa: sorry, I was suggesting that you try "LANG=C aptitude remove ~nlinux-headers" or alternatively dpkg -r linux-headers-amd64 etc. (the * doesn't do what you want here) |
| 16:28.48 | TheWarden | jelly: oh man I realize that. I'm purchasing that processor and I want to make sure it will work with Debian but not sure which 64 I would use of Debian with that processor. babilen says AMD64 |
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| 16:29.07 | jelly | TheWarden: that is correct. "amd64" Debian architecture. |
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| 16:29.21 | themill | ketsa: doing things one step at a time with dpkg -r might be better right now |
| 16:29.25 | TheWarden | babilen: if I use Debian AMD64, how come its AMD when its a Intel architecture? |
| 16:29.32 | babilen | !tell TheWarden -about why amd64 |
| 16:30.12 | jhutchins_lt | TheWarden: It's an AMD architecture licensed by Intel. |
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| 16:31.02 | TheWarden | jhutchins_lt: Oh really, wow I had no idea and had no idea that Intel would be willing to do something like that with their compeitor. |
| 16:31.54 | AR-Brad | I need some help. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get Network Manager to scan for a Wi-Fi access point on my laptop. |
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| 16:32.22 | jhutchins_lt | TheWarden: ia64/itanium didn't really work out. |
| 16:32.41 | AR-Brad | Instead of searching for an access point, it will try to get me to manually set up a wi-fi connection. |
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| 16:32.50 | TheWarden | interesting that AMD makes this processor being that if one looks at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeon it implies that its Intel. However, Wikipedia isn't always accurate. |
| 16:33.18 | jelly | TheWarden: Intel makes it. |
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| 16:33.41 | AR-Brad | Can anyone help? |
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| 16:34.29 | jhutchins_lt | TheWarden: Intel makes it under license form AMD. |
| 16:34.32 | rjka | Does anybody else can help me with fixing system volume control under keyboard. When I press VOLUME DOWN or VOLUME UP button on my keyboard, the Gnome volume bar appears, but it's empty and the volume doesn't change. |
| 16:34.38 | AR-Brad | I am confused... |
| 16:34.42 | Hadus | Hello all. |
| 16:34.46 | TheWarden | jhutchins_lt: ohhh okay, gottcha. |
| 16:34.51 | Hadus | Anyone can help me with Bash Scripting? |
| 16:35.42 | babilen | Hadus: Try #bash |
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| 16:36.01 | jelly | Hadus: or just ask the question |
| 16:37.01 | AR-Brad | Can anyone help me get my network manager figured out? |
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| 16:37.29 | TheWarden | Is there by chance a place that explains what the supported processors are for each architecture of Debian? As I guessing there is sometimes multiple |
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| 16:38.18 | AR-Brad | My network manager won't search for an access point (With Wi-Fi). Help? |
| 16:38.25 | dondelelcaro | TheWarden: that's usually a question of the kernel and what it supports, but as it gets really complicated in some spaces, there's no complete list |
| 16:38.43 | themill | ketsa: how's progress? |
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| 16:39.16 | AR-Brad | T.T |
| 16:39.30 | TheWarden | dondelelcaro: ohhh okay |
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| 16:39.59 | dondelelcaro | TheWarden: what in particular did you want to know, though? |
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| 16:40.31 | Tasser | where is there a file => package lookup? |
| 16:40.49 | petemc | apt-file |
| 16:41.12 | babilen | Tasser: Or on http://packages.debian.org |
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| 16:41.33 | Tasser | babilen, thanks |
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| 16:41.56 | AR-Brad | Can I please get some help? |
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| 16:43.33 | LtL | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.51 | babilen | AR-Brad: Typically you just click the nm-applet and it shows you the list of networks in the vicinity. Do you see networks when you run "iwlist INTERFACE scan" ? (e.g. "iwlist wlan0 scan") |
| 16:43.59 | gele | is there a way to re-encrypt a luks partition in place, e.g. block by block, with a new master key? |
| 16:44.05 | AR-Brad | babilen - no |
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| 16:44.33 | AR-Brad | babilen: I can only see the networks that I manually configured |
| 16:44.45 | AR-Brad | When I erase those networks, nothing shows up |
| 16:44.53 | babilen | AR-Brad: I would argue that either: 1. Your wireless adapter is not configured properly or 2. There are not wireless networks in the vicinity |
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| 16:45.15 | babilen | AR-Brad: You see your manually configured network when you run "iwlist INTERFACE scan" ? |
| 16:45.19 | AR-Brad | babilen: My wiress router is working fine; two other laptops running Windows can connect to it. |
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| 16:45.29 | AR-Brad | babilen: yes |
| 16:45.36 | ketsa | themill: i removed all linux 2.6 pkg, and the upgrade is back at the perl loop : |
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| 16:45.41 | ketsa | Use of uninitialized value $text in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Text/WrapI18N.pm line 101, <GEN238> line 8. |
| 16:45.43 | ketsa | substr outside of string at /usr/share/perl5/Text/WrapI18N.pm line 130, <GEN238> line 8. |
| 16:45.48 | ketsa | endless loop |
| 16:45.49 | themill | lovely. |
| 16:45.59 | babilen | AR-Brad: Have you used wireless with that computer before? Are you sure that the adapter is working and configured properly? |
| 16:45.59 | gele | AR-Brad: sorry if you've already answered this, but do you have the firmware for your wifi card installed? |
| 16:46.12 | AR-Brad | gele: yes. |
| 16:46.25 | AR-Brad | babilen: Not with this computer, but with another one. |
| 16:46.29 | themill | ketsa: does that loop depend on what your locale settings are? |
| 16:46.32 | gele | AR-Brad: firmware-iwlwifi ? |
| 16:46.34 | babilen | AR-Brad: Which card is it? (e.g. "lspci -nn|grep -i network") |
| 16:46.35 | themill | !dbugs 638950 |
| 16:46.40 | dpkg | #638950:I[libtext-wrapi18n-perl] libtext-wrapi18n-perl: Fail to upload from stable to testing: Use of uninitialized value $text in concatenation (); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:21:15 UTC [] |
| 16:46.48 | themill | ketsa: ^^ that's your perl loop. |
| 16:46.48 | AR-Brad | babilen: ralink |
| 16:46.53 | babilen | themill: Huh? Wasn't that fixed? |
| 16:47.03 | themill | babilen: if only |
| 16:47.29 | babilen | AR-Brad: Yes, could you please give me the PCIID of that device .... (the alphanumerical identifier at the end of that line) |
| 16:48.14 | AR-Brad | babilen: How do I get that? |
| 16:48.15 | babilen | themill: wow, shit .. I seriously, somehow, believed/hoped that that bug was fixed. |
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| 16:48.37 | babilen | AR-Brad: lspci -nn|grep -i network |
| 16:49.05 | AR-Brad | It just gives me a new command line. |
| 16:49.09 | AR-Brad | babilen:^ |
| 16:49.21 | ketsa | looks like this bug is not fixed, so its reinstallation time ? |
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| 16:49.42 | themill | ketsa: can you pastebin the output of "LANG=C apt-cache policy debconf debconf-i18n libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-wrapi18n-perl" |
| 16:49.44 | smhar | dpkg, help |
| 16:50.03 | AR-Brad | Darn, I gotta go |
| 16:50.06 | AR-Brad | Sorry.. |
| 16:50.11 | AR-Brad | I'll be back soon. |
| 16:50.16 | AR-Brad | >.< |
| 16:50.18 | AR-Brad | Bye |
| 16:50.37 | babilen | AR-Brad: Ok, until later. |
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| 16:51.37 | ketsa | themill: http://pastebin.com/fnuuhUfV |
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| 16:52.48 | windparadise | hello, pls can someone help me add www-data to a folder ? |
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| 16:53.31 | TheWarden | dondelelcaro: nothing specifically just thought there maybe such a thing to read. |
| 16:53.38 | TheWarden | thanks for the help folks |
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| 16:55.56 | themill | ketsa: manually upgrading the libtext-charwidth-perl package to the newer version in wheezy (with dpkg -i) might fix this, but I'm not sure what state your perl is in and whether that is possible right now. |
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| 16:56.29 | blink_ | I have 2 dvds given to me by a teacher-friend, identical disks with the same educational movie on them, is it possible using dd_rescue to make two iso files, then to stitch together the good data into a new iso? |
| 16:56.32 | ketsa | i ll try |
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| 16:56.44 | blink_ | bad blocks on both dvds, just in different places |
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| 16:57.49 | gele | blink_: do you know where the bad blocks are? |
| 16:57.56 | gele | in terms of byte offsets, i mean. |
| 16:59.53 | gele | oh, wait. dd_rescue. |
| 17:00.09 | gele | blink_: if the discs are completely identical, sans the bad blocks, it probably should work. |
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| 17:02.18 | windparadise | hello pls, addgroup www www-data is not working, I am told user www doesn't exist the reverse order is producing hte same effect how does it supposed to be ? |
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| 17:05.54 | themill | windparadise: I think you need to tell us what you're really trying to do |
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| 17:06.18 | windparadise | ok, /var/www is a folder, but waht I can see, it has limited permissions, sub/folders cannot be created from the browser |
| 17:06.36 | windparadise | so I want to add www-data I think to have control over the foler |
| 17:06.43 | themill | created from the browser? |
| 17:06.44 | Foxhoundz | A few months ago, I installed debian using only the base package, which did not include drivers for wireless networking. Is it possible to manually include wireless tools into the base package? |
| 17:06.50 | ketsa | themill: i force-removed that package and the upgrade is running now, we'll see. |
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| 17:07.08 | themill | ketsa: which package? libtext-charwidth-perl? |
| 17:07.15 | ketsa | yes |
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| 17:07.32 | themill | ok... so that then made apt deal with the dependency loop in a different way |
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| 17:08.11 | ketsa | shall I reinstall it afterwards ? |
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| 17:09.07 | themill | ketsa: I imagine that will happen automatically as soon as apt wants to install the newer debconf as part of the upgrade |
| 17:10.15 | blink_ | gele: what process would be involved in creating the new (fixed) iso using the two "bad blocked" isos? |
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| 17:11.14 | aPpYe | I migrated my server from archlinux to debian. Before doing so, I backed up the entire root partition for archlinux using rsync. In the debian install I copied the key files from the entire contents of the /etc/ssh/ folder from the backup of archlinux to the new system. I am still getting warnings about man in the middle attacks when trying to connect to the new server. What am I missing? |
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| 17:11.56 | aPpYe | whoops. I meant I copied the entire contents of /etc/ssh on the backup. |
| 17:13.09 | karlpinc | aPpYe: What's the error message? |
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| 17:13.30 | aPpYe | that man in the middle attack thing ... hold on. |
| 17:13.42 | karlpinc | aPpYe: And did you restart the sshd server? |
| 17:13.45 | kl4m | are you sure that Debian is using the same host key filenames as Arch |
| 17:13.53 | aPpYe | karlpinc, yeah... |
| 17:14.50 | jelly | aPpYe: did the hostname or the IP address change? |
| 17:15.12 | karlpinc | !tell aPpYe about paste |
| 17:15.17 | themill | aPpYe: did you connect first to it when it had the debian-installed keys and then copy over the arch-generated keys? |
| 17:15.20 | aPpYe | lol .... give me a second to get some pastes up. |
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| 17:17.15 | corretico | anyone with ipsec on linux!!! |
| 17:17.26 | karlpinc | !tell corretico about anyone |
| 17:17.57 | aPpYe | okay, here is the error: http://pastebin.com/QU3wvqFf |
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| 17:19.09 | aPpYe | here is what my /etc/ssh folder looked like before copying all the arch stuff over: http://pastebin.com/6FYn5Ys7 |
| 17:19.14 | corretico | <karlpinc>I need help with a IPSec tunnel from a debian box to Cisco ASA |
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| 17:20.06 | themill | aPpYe: how did you copy the keys across? |
| 17:20.13 | karlpinc | corretico: Tell the channel what seems to be broken, or at least as much about your setup as you can. |
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| 17:20.30 | aPpYe | here is what the archlinux /etc/ssh folder looks like: http://paste.debian.net/142393/ |
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| 17:20.52 | aPpYe | jelly, the hostname and ip are the same. |
| 17:21.09 | LtL | aPpYe: rm /root/.ssh/known_hosts and login and accept the key provided you are certain it's the correct idenity it claims to be. |
| 17:21.27 | themill | gives LtL ssh-keygen -R |
| 17:21.48 | LtL | themill: even better |
| 17:22.04 | themill | but it doesn't actually solve the problem |
| 17:22.12 | aPpYe | themill, I tried copying the key files over, then tried the entire contents over, all with reboots in between. |
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| 17:22.35 | themill | aPpYe: but you've presumably connected via ssh to this machine to do those operations |
| 17:22.52 | aPpYe | ltl I cannot do this because I use reverse ssh tunnelling for several friends and family that already use the old keys. |
| 17:23.01 | aPpYe | themill, no, I did this from the box itself. |
| 17:23.32 | aPpYe | right now I cannot do this though, I am at work and the machine is home. I did the stuff I already mentioned last night. |
| 17:24.38 | aPpYe | LtL, I want this machine to have the same "fingerprint" or whatever as the old... |
| 17:24.47 | windparadise | is hter any apache module which allows an automatic ration of bhos ta isases / |
| 17:24.49 | gele | blink_: i haven't actually used it myself, but from the manual it looks like it should be enough to run 'ddrescue /dev/cdrom output.iso logfile' two times, one with the first CD in the drive and one with the second. |
| 17:25.06 | themill | aPpYe: I don't suppose you'd know from that fingerprint whether sshd there is using the old keys or the new keys, would you? |
| 17:25.16 | windparadise | I am tryint to configure an alias I am having a hard time with in or der to automatically create subdomains but all tied went in vain |
| 17:25.30 | themill | aPpYe: I'm just wondering if it's the client or the server that's confused |
| 17:25.30 | aPpYe | I have been able to get this working in the past when I upgraded my server hardware and installed a new copy of archlinux... |
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| 17:25.39 | vdv_ | hi all |
| 17:25.43 | aPpYe | themill, I am not sure I follow? |
| 17:25.44 | gele | blink_: the first time it should write the positions of the bad blocks on the first cd to logfile, the second time it should only try to read those blocks from the second cd and overwrite those blocks in output.iso. |
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| 17:26.01 | vdv_ | how can i look for a list of files which correspond a package? |
| 17:26.31 | vdv_ | i.e. how can i see contents of the installed package? |
| 17:26.37 | themill | dpkg -L |
| 17:26.37 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, themill |
| 17:26.37 | gele | blink_: the manual says "Automatic merging of backups: If you have two or more damaged copies of a file, cdrom, etc, and run ddrescue on all of them, one at a time, with the same output file, you will probably obtain a complete and error-free file." |
| 17:26.43 | themill | dpkg: shush |
| 17:26.43 | dpkg | Fine, I'll shut up. |
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| 17:27.10 | themill | aPpYe: if you installed openssh-server, it generated keys, you connected, your client picked up the new key and remembered it, then you copied the old keys over and now the client is expecting to see the new "debian" keys rather than the old "arch" keys. |
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| 17:28.21 | aPpYe | themill, no, there are a couple laptops that have a script that runs in the background that attempts to the address. These have been untouched since before I installed debian. |
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| 17:28.37 | aPpYe | attempts to connect to the address that is... |
| 17:29.04 | themill | ok. I was somewhat clutching at straws. What you've done should work fine (assuming you retart sshd after copying the keys across) |
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| 17:30.12 | aPpYe | With these, I get the man in the middle errors, even if, from the debian server itself, I '/etc/init.d/ssh stop' , copy over the entire folder contents from the archlinux install, and then restart ssh, or reboot the server. |
| 17:30.35 | jhutchins_lt | Why not update the keys? |
| 17:31.23 | aPpYe | jhutchins_lt, I can do that, but I would have to make several phone calls and walk people through the process of updating the keys on their machines. I was hoping to avoid this... |
| 17:31.33 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: Did you read the text of the error message? |
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| 17:31.54 | aPpYe | jhutchins_lt, yes? |
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| 17:32.56 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: It's the "fingerprint" that's changed. |
| 17:33.26 | aPpYe | jhutchins_lt, http://pastebin.com/QU3wvqFf ... yeah, I know. I was hoping to copy over the fingerprint from the arch install. |
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| 17:33.32 | themill | aPpYe: there's no private key in that second paste |
| 17:33.38 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: You could read the OpenSSH documentation and figure out where that comes from and why it's not working the way you expect. |
| 17:33.50 | aPpYe | themill, I noticed that. how did it work in the first place then? |
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| 17:34.22 | themill | aPpYe: nfc. Does the config file point elsewhere for the keys? |
| 17:34.40 | themill | aPpYe: Also, I can't imagine sshd accepting keys that aren't owned by root:root |
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| 17:35.12 | themill | aPpYe: I'd imagine it also checks that /etc and /etc/ssh aren't writable by some other user too |
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| 17:37.10 | aPpYe | themill, I changed the ownerships to root root after I copied over. |
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| 17:37.35 | themill | ok. There's still the matter of the missing private key |
| 17:38.09 | aPpYe | so perhaps I can look in the sshd_config? |
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| 17:38.21 | themill | indeed |
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| 17:39.26 | aPpYe | here is the sshd_config file from the archlinux install ... http://paste.debian.net/142402/ |
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| 17:39.29 | themill | aPpYe: make sure you have the right permissions on the private key too (600) |
| 17:40.24 | themill | that all looks pretty dull and standard |
| 17:41.13 | aPpYe | I am thinking I am going to have to make some phone calls then... damn. I thought I was gonna be good here. maybe I should ask over in #arch if there is some custom place to have the private key. |
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| 17:41.44 | themill | aPpYe: yeah, it looks a bit odd as it is |
| 17:42.02 | themill | aPpYe: unless you failed to back it up because you backed it up as a user not as root |
| 17:42.51 | aPpYe | is there any way to extrapolate the private key from the known_hosts file on an unmodified machine that was connecting fine to the arch install? |
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| 17:43.33 | themill | no. that's the point |
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| 17:46.02 | aPpYe | themill, so if I ran it as a non-root user it would have failed to copy over the private key files? I would think I ran it as root anyway, but even if not, they are all 644, so I should have been able to copy them over, right? |
| 17:46.07 | themill | ketsa: still upgrading? |
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| 17:46.31 | themill | aPpYe: the private keys are not 644; if you didn't run the backup as root, it wouldn't copy them |
| 17:46.36 | ksk | the key files should(must) not be 644 |
| 17:46.43 | ksk | add an "?" to must.. |
| 17:46.57 | themill | ksk: correct, ssh ignores insecure keys |
| 17:47.02 | aPpYe | 644 is -rw-r--r-- right? |
| 17:47.09 | ksk | yes |
| 17:47.20 | erawfish_ | aPpYe: -rw------- 1 root root 887 Aug 24 2003 ssh_host_rsa_key |
| 17:47.44 | aPpYe | hmmm. I see now. |
| 17:47.49 | aPpYe | 600 |
| 17:48.09 | erawfish_ | aPpYe: the 644 files are helpfully extensioned "pub" for a reason |
| 17:48.17 | aPpYe | I think I will install archlinux in a vm and see what the folder looks like. |
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| 17:48.51 | erawfish_ | it's very unlikely that arch tampers with openssh. see the painful experience debian had :( |
| 17:48.58 | aPpYe | I think it must have been that I backed up the root filesystem as a non-root user... no other way to explain the missing private key file. |
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| 17:49.15 | aPpYe | erawfish_, probably true. |
| 17:49.31 | erawfish_ | then it's no backup. didn't your backup program warn you about the failed to backup files? |
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| 17:50.27 | aPpYe | I used rsync ... I don't remember any warnings. |
| 17:51.32 | themill | aPpYe: perhaps when you made the backup you did it as root, but you certainly restored the backup as a user |
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| 17:54.07 | aPpYe | themill, I can't think of any other reason the file would not have made it to the backup. it is not there. The backup was a simple "rsync -hvax / /home/destination" |
| 17:54.43 | themill | -v isn't good for spotting error messages |
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| 17:55.15 | aPpYe | if I had done that as root, it would be seeing the private key under /home/destination/etc/ssh/ , no? |
| 17:55.40 | themill | Unless arch does something very very weird with their ssh config, yes. |
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| 18:07.12 | JohnWittle | Hey guys. Anyway to get 'write' to be non-interactive? I want to include 'write john "backup complete"' in a root backup script. |
| 18:07.55 | JohnWittle | essentially i just want to echo something to a user's least-idle tty |
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| 18:10.16 | dondelelcaro | JohnWittle: echo backup complete |write john |
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| 18:10.42 | JohnWittle | oh |
| 18:10.44 | JohnWittle | you can pipe things to write |
| 18:10.46 | JohnWittle | i'm stupid |
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| 18:11.03 | dondelelcaro | figuring out the least idle tty is more difficult, but usually you just want the default anyway |
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| 18:11.25 | JohnWittle | well, write does it automatically |
| 18:11.31 | JohnWittle | that's what the default for write is, that's why i wanted to use write |
| 18:11.36 | JohnWittle | yup, just worked. |
| 18:12.04 | joeoshawa | hi, I was in earlier and had a problem with ssh not accepting passwords, I am still having the same issue even though i have purged and reinstalled ssh |
| 18:12.36 | joeoshawa | i have checked the wiki and man pages and still have no idea why its happening |
| 18:13.00 | joeoshawa | tried -vvv and everything looks fine as far as i can tell |
| 18:13.24 | JohnWittle | what is getting printed to logfiles when someone tries to login with a password? |
| 18:13.31 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: not accepting how? does it ask for a password? |
| 18:13.33 | joeoshawa | the only thing i can think of is debian does not allow remote login by default |
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| 18:14.06 | joeoshawa | yeah it just says permission denied when i put the password in |
| 18:14.14 | ketsa | themill: still running, i had a prompt and i have ppl here now, thanks a lot man ! looks like i will be back on track |
| 18:14.15 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: well, then the password is probably wrong |
| 18:14.23 | joeoshawa | but i know the password is right |
| 18:14.33 | joeoshawa | i can log in at the comptuer |
| 18:14.35 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: check /var/log/auth.log |
| 18:14.39 | joeoshawa | computer |
| 18:14.39 | raz0 | Debian allows remote login by default, even for root. |
| 18:14.44 | raz0 | (for ssh) |
| 18:15.02 | erawfish_ | joeoshawa: create a new,normal system user with a new password. use that. by default ssh accepts system users with a shell |
| 18:15.26 | themill | ketsa: OK, sounds good. Once it's all worked out, can you drop a brief note to that bug just giving the command that you used to get around it? ("dpkg -r --force=depends libtext-charwidth-perl; apt-get dist-upgrade" or whatever you actually used) so that others can find that information? While we obviously have to get this fixed properly, a workaround is at least nice to have too. |
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| 18:16.09 | joeoshawa | i can ssh localhost with root and the user but not from another computer via network |
| 18:16.34 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: so check /var/log/auth.log |
| 18:16.46 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: that will tell you precisely why the authentication is failing |
| 18:16.49 | erawfish_ | joeoshawa: but you can connect, only the password entry fails? |
| 18:17.03 | steel_ | hi,quick question,what's the difference between debian and lmde? tried searching for it on the internet but couldn't find any answer |
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| 18:17.20 | JohnWittle | LMDE is rolling release |
| 18:17.24 | JohnWittle | that's the main difference |
| 18:17.48 | steel_ | JohnWittle, oh ok,thanks |
| 18:18.03 | JohnWittle | this means that performing a sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade will always give you the latest version of everything, no matter what "version" lmde is. |
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| 18:18.28 | dondelelcaro | steel_: you'll have to ask the mint people; they know what they've changed, not us. |
| 18:19.01 | joeoshawa | sshd[2212]: recieved signal 15; terminating |
| 18:19.04 | steel_ | dondelelcaro, i just wanted to know the difference |
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| 18:19.17 | steel_ | JohnWittle, thanks again |
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| 18:19.34 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: and what else? |
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| 18:20.09 | themill | JohnWittle, steel_: I'm not sure that's a particularly useful distinction to debian testing. |
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| 18:21.25 | propman | steel_: irc.spotchat.org /join #linuxmint-debian |
| 18:22.08 | eternity13 | why does my server refuses connection to ssh and ftp. web server works fine, but this happens occasionally, i can't connect for about 5minutes, and than everything works again. iptables with default configuration, no additional protection. |
| 18:22.42 | joeoshawa | then it just says sshd[2615] server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22 and another line the same with no ip in it |
| 18:23.24 | joeoshawa | just two semicolons where the ip should be |
| 18:23.24 | erawfish_ | so your ssh server crashes? |
| 18:23.52 | joeoshawa | dunno guess so |
| 18:24.11 | joeoshawa | i just know what i told you |
| 18:24.43 | joeoshawa | never had issue before with ubuntu or slackware |
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| 18:25.04 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: that's you restarting sshd |
| 18:25.05 | joeoshawa | first time setting it up with straight debian |
| 18:25.17 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: if you don't see anything else in auth.log, then you're not actually trying to log onto your server |
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| 18:25.27 | erawfish_ | joeoshawa: could it be something like /etc/hosts.allow or fail2ban or whatever. some other process sends the ssh server a signal "please terminate now" and of course the ssh server complies |
| 18:26.07 | joeoshawa | there is a cron job below it |
| 18:26.24 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: you should be seeing lines like: Oct 30 13:31:06 foo sshd[15]: Accepted password for bar from 1.2.3.4 port 10523 ssh2 |
| 18:26.45 | joeoshawa | nope |
| 18:26.51 | joeoshawa | will try again |
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| 18:29.44 | joeoshawa | i get one where i used localhost to login from the machine it's self |
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| 18:30.23 | joeoshawa | Accepted password for root from ::1 port 55974 ssh2 |
| 18:31.00 | shanepardue | If I want to revert from the proprietary Nvidia driver in Debian Squeeze. Is there a way to make a basic xorg.conf after I ensured the nouveau driver is installed? |
| 18:31.47 | dondelelcaro | joeoshawa: ok, so if you don't see anything from remote, then you're either not using the right IP address, you've got iptables rules, or you've got something else blocking the login packets. |
| 18:31.51 | joeoshawa | shanepardue, you don't need an xorg.conf if your not using the nvidia driver and only a basic setup |
| 18:32.14 | shanepardue | joeoshawa: ok, I probably didn't remove all of the nvidia bits then. Thanks |
| 18:32.43 | joeoshawa | shanepardue, rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.old |
| 18:32.49 | joeoshawa | then reboot |
| 18:32.55 | shanepardue | Yeah, I did do that actually |
| 18:33.15 | joeoshawa | if you have video your not using the nvidia driver |
| 18:33.57 | ksk | joeoshawa: maybe hosts.{allow/deny}? |
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| 18:34.03 | ksk | you mentiond you can login from localhost |
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| 18:34.27 | joeoshawa | yeah but would i still get asked for the password |
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| 18:34.38 | ksk | mhm, key-login works - nevermind.. |
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| 18:35.22 | joeoshawa | i am gonna ping it |
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| 18:37.09 | shanepardue_ | joeoshawa: Removing the nvidia kernel was the solution. Thanks |
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| 18:39.17 | evilbulgarian | hi, can someone please tell me how i can preven debconf / apt-get to prompt me for overwiting existing or already modified config file and just accept the defaults? |
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| 18:40.09 | evilbulgarian | http://pastebin.com/2yVz9yyn is what i currently use and it still prompts me |
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| 18:40.40 | dondelelcaro | evilbulgarian: it's actually dpkg that is prompting you, not apt-get or debconf |
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| 18:41.14 | dondelelcaro | evilbulgarian: you want --force-confdef |
| 18:41.27 | evilbulgarian | dondelelcaro: sorry, thanks |
| 18:41.59 | evilbulgarian | how do i pass that to dpkg from apt-get |
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| 18:43.04 | joeoshawa | ping is good and i installed nmap and this is what i got back http://pastebin.com/Tms0kaww |
| 18:43.44 | joeoshawa | the series of open ports concerns me |
| 18:44.20 | dondelelcaro | evilbulgarian: man apt.conf; for details, but apt-get -o Dpkg::options::='--force-confdef' ... |
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| 18:44.36 | joeoshawa | although the machine doesn't need to be overly secure |
| 18:44.56 | evilbulgarian | dondelelcaro: thanks good sir |
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| 18:46.18 | rjka | Hi. When I press VOLUME DOWN or VOLUME UP on my keyboard, Gnome displays volume bar that is empty and nothing happens. My sound card plays well, but I want be able to control the volume from keyboard. Anybody know how to fix that? |
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| 18:48.26 | joeoshawa | i was trying to ssh into myself |
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| 18:48.45 | joeoshawa | got the wrong ip from the router its set backwards |
| 18:49.02 | joeoshawa | sorry thanks |
| 18:49.16 | joeoshawa | it was a pebkac error lol |
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| 18:50.20 | peterrooney | joeoshawa: I never have those. |
| 18:50.35 | peterrooney | wonders how he said that with a straight face |
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| 18:52.19 | jhutchins_lt | Kindof figures that OpenSSH isn't actually broken. |
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| 18:58.03 | joeoshawa | now i am wondering about these open ports which of them are important and which should i close |
| 18:58.29 | ompaul | joeoshawa: ports open indicate that there are services running |
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| 19:01.02 | jhutchins_lt | joeoshawa: Or they're forwarded to something that's running. |
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| 19:01.55 | joeoshawa | why would nfs be using a port |
| 19:03.19 | joeoshawa | nm |
| 19:03.30 | jhutchins_lt | joeoshawa: Network File System? I dunno, maybe to connect network shares? |
| 19:03.57 | joeoshawa | forgot i was sharing a drive with videos |
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| 19:05.35 | joeoshawa | so rpcbind imap and imaps are normal and should not be an issue correct? |
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| 19:06.11 | breardo | trying to determine why im seeing packet drops on a bonded interface... not seeing any drops on the associated interfaces however. ethtool also reports no drops on individual interfaces. Anyone have an idea how I can find out why/what is being dropped on the bond0 int? |
| 19:06.28 | joeoshawa | yeah its just my email cool |
| 19:06.36 | abrotman | joeoshawa: you're using nfs on your mail server? |
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| 19:07.24 | joeoshawa | hahahaha no i am using nfs to share a directory with movies in it and evolution is connected to my email |
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| 19:07.41 | thegladiator | is debian using gnome 2 ? |
| 19:07.50 | joeoshawa | and i removed samba since i don't use or allow winblows in my home |
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| 19:08.06 | joeoshawa | thegladiator, yes |
| 19:08.16 | joeoshawa | thegladiator, if you want |
| 19:08.39 | thegladiator | whats the default one ? |
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| 19:08.46 | joeoshawa | gnome2 |
| 19:08.52 | abrotman | thegladiator: in stable, yes .. in unstable, no |
| 19:09.03 | joeoshawa | even in wheezy |
| 19:09.10 | abrotman | that will change very soon |
| 19:09.16 | joeoshawa | just not unstable |
| 19:09.16 | abrotman | parts of gnome3 are already in wheezy |
| 19:09.30 | abrotman | thegladiator: why do you ask ? |
| 19:09.36 | thegladiator | whats coming with unstable? |
| 19:09.46 | jhutchins_lt | !gnome3 |
| 19:09.46 | dpkg | GNOME 3 is the new and not yet complete version of the GNOME desktop environment. Bits of it are starting to work their way into Debian unstable at the moment and wheezy will release with it. See http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html for details. Also ask me about <install gnome>, <gnome-shell>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/04/msg00111.html |
| 19:09.53 | thegladiator | I need a good GUI based distro , Ubuntu's Unity is no longer working fine |
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| 19:10.03 | thegladiator | i see |
| 19:10.19 | joeoshawa | i can't stand unity either |
| 19:10.22 | babilen | thegladiator: You don't have to use unity in Ubuntu fwiw |
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| 19:10.44 | jhutchins_lt | joeoshawa: You would appear to be _serving_ imap and imaps. |
| 19:10.59 | thegladiator | For some reason the other desktop environments except Lxde , has issues |
| 19:11.16 | joeoshawa | don't matter those services are blocked by my isp |
| 19:11.36 | thegladiator | maybe its compiz that was already installed thats causing the problem |
| 19:11.45 | thegladiator | i went for OS upgrade instaed of fresh install |
| 19:11.48 | babilen | thegladiator: You can use the normal gnome shell -- Just "/join #ubuntu" and "/msg ubottu nounity" -- You are welcome to use Debian though, just wanted to mention it. |
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| 19:12.14 | thegladiator | gnome shell = gnome 3 no? |
| 19:12.30 | joeoshawa | ubuntu 11.10 does not give the classic option |
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| 19:12.45 | thegladiator | yes classic with 11.04 is what I used |
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| 19:12.59 | alshain_ | hi, I receive "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0" when trying to login as root via SSH, PermitRootLogin is set to yes |
| 19:13.02 | joeoshawa | tho you could probably remove unity and gnome3 and install gnome 2 |
| 19:13.10 | babilen | Just like Debian, Ubuntu also provides a Gnome2 fallback mode -- But make up your mind. Further Ubuntu support in #ubuntu please. |
| 19:13.18 | thegladiator | and for obvious reasons Mint is almost overtaking Ubuntu ...though both are Ubuntu |
| 19:13.25 | thegladiator | at linuxdistrowatch |
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| 19:13.29 | alshain_ | I should add, logging in as a different user via SSH works |
| 19:13.56 | thegladiator | No I am not looking for any ubuntu support , looking for trying debian |
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| 19:14.10 | Bushmills | !netinst |
| 19:14.10 | dpkg | i guess netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 19:14.12 | thegladiator | how is the unstable with gnome 3 ? Can i have a live CD which I can install |
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| 19:14.19 | joeoshawa | i am using wheezy and using gnome 2 right now |
| 19:14.36 | alshain_ | oh... I accidentally ran gitolite as root, that's why, nvm then :) |
| 19:14.38 | thegladiator | wheezy is unstable ? |
| 19:14.43 | Bushmills | !unstable |
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| 19:14.44 | dpkg | Unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added at any time, that can disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/ See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>. |
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| 19:14.49 | babilen | thegladiator: Ok, then install Debian and be happy :) Information to do so can be found in the installation guide (/msg dpkg ig) and you probably want to use the already mentioned netinstall images. If your hardware needs firmware, use the netinstall images with firmware. /msg dpkg firmware image |
| 19:14.55 | blubberdiblub | wheezy is testing |
| 19:15.12 | thegladiator | right I have unetbootin |
| 19:15.33 | erawfish_ | unetbootin won't work to create installers and is not necessary either |
| 19:15.43 | erawfish_ | !tell thegladiator about hybrid image |
| 19:15.48 | alshain_ | ok, I'm having anohter issue: I cannot login via SSH from a remote location, i.e. external to my network. I'm confident the port forwarding is set up properly in my router and active, how would best go about tracking down the issue in the configuration? |
| 19:15.56 | joeoshawa | i downloaded the multiarch cd personally cause i install debian a lot |
| 19:16.11 | babilen | thegladiator: unetbootin often fails to create usable sticks -- Just cat the image to your usb block device. "cat the_debian.iso > /dev/sdX" (replace sdX with the device in question) |
| 19:16.24 | erawfish_ | alshain_: are you sure it's not the portforwarding? does it ask you for a username or password? |
| 19:16.31 | alshain_ | erawfish_: no, I get a timeout |
| 19:16.40 | babilen | thegladiator: Ah, make that "cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX ; sync" |
| 19:16.43 | erawfish_ | alshain_: probably a portforwarding issue |
| 19:16.53 | thegladiator | oh wow cat works on iso's ? |
| 19:17.05 | alshain_ | erawfish_: hmm |
| 19:17.11 | babilen | thegladiator: Only with hybrid images |
| 19:17.29 | babilen | thegladiator: Have fun |
| 19:17.32 | thegladiator | ok which hybrid image should I go for |
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| 19:17.41 | erawfish_ | alshain_: could also be a ISP blocking certain ports, could be a firewall somewhere |
| 19:17.52 | thegladiator | I use a netbook , Atom right now |
| 19:18.17 | joeoshawa | alshain_, didn't you say you could log in just not as root |
| 19:19.18 | joeoshawa | my isp blocks mail server ports |
| 19:19.52 | joeoshawa | since their not allowed to check packets |
| 19:21.08 | gary_golden | why tcpdump doesn't show forwarded packets? |
| 19:21.34 | gary_golden | I call: tcpdump -n -v -v "ip proto \\icmp" At the same time pinging from NAT |
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| 19:23.16 | joeoshawa | as for my imap thing i think that is so my email gets sent directly to evolution when i get emailed |
| 19:23.28 | joeoshawa | and for sending |
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| 19:24.23 | jhutchins_lt | gary_golden: Perhaps the packets are not being forwarded. |
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| 19:25.00 | jhutchins_lt | gary_golden: tcpdump should show any packets on that segment of the lan. |
| 19:25.02 | alshain_ | joeoshawa: well, that was locally |
| 19:25.03 | gary_golden | jhutchins_lt: they are forwared. I'm getting anwers from external host |
| 19:25.18 | alshain_ | erawfish_: strangely enough, it used to work earlier for different machines |
| 19:25.27 | alshain_ | erawfish_: same settings, I only changed the IP it's being forwarded to |
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| 19:26.07 | alshain_ | but I do see a strange error message in the log: blocked from IP to <same IP> : IP spoofing detected |
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| 19:26.16 | alphanet | hello, what would be the IRC channel for alix-2d3 novram-access-from-debian questions? :) |
| 19:26.24 | alshain_ | brb, rebooting the router |
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| 19:26.49 | gary_golden | also, packets displayed when I ping from router (the one who runs tcpdump) |
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| 19:28.42 | joeoshawa | was going to tell him he is trying to ssh himself hrmm someone did that earlier who was that |
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| 19:28.48 | alshain | ok, might have missed something, joeoshawa erawfish_ |
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| 19:28.51 | alshain | was rebooting the router |
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| 19:29.19 | joeoshawa | alshain, your trying to ssh yourself i did that earlier |
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| 19:29.46 | joeoshawa | check the ip of the machine you want to ssh to |
| 19:30.50 | alshain | joeoshawa: I am? I'm using a different machine |
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| 19:30.53 | alshain | but same local network |
| 19:31.22 | joeoshawa | yes but each machine has its own ip inside the network |
| 19:31.33 | joeoshawa | they just use the same external ip |
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| 19:31.58 | joeoshawa | so if it says from and to are the same ip its the same machine |
| 19:32.00 | alshain | mm, I see |
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| 19:32.46 | joeoshawa | like if i want to ssh to the machine beside me its from 10.0.4.32 to 10.0.4.38 |
| 19:33.03 | joeoshawa | not from 32 to 32 |
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| 19:33.45 | CaptWho | i'm running gnome2 and my wifi connector doesn't detect new hotspots. it sees all the old ones just fine. is there a setting i can change somewhere? |
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| 19:34.40 | jhutchins_lt | CaptWho: What does iwlist wlan0 scanning tell you? |
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| 19:38.29 | CaptWho | jhutchins_lt, what command do i use after iwlist? |
| 19:38.49 | jhutchins_lt | CaptWho: For what? |
| 19:39.32 | CaptWho | iwlist accesspoints |
| 19:39.52 | calamari | I decided to upgrade from ubuntu lucid to debian wheezy.. I realize this will probably turn my system to mush, but I'm having fun anyways :) |
| 19:40.05 | CaptWho | wlan0 doesn't have a list of peers/accesspoints |
| 19:40.49 | peterrooney | calamari: I can only imagine how sorely my patience would be tested. |
| 19:41.02 | CaptWho | i enter iwlist and it wants a qualifying command, so i entered "iwlist accesspoints" |
| 19:41.42 | blink_ | seen gele |
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| 19:42.17 | calamari | peterrooney, I'm learning a lot about the various packaging tools |
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| 19:42.31 | CaptWho | jhutchins_lt, was that what you were asking? |
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| 19:43.25 | jhutchins_lt | CaptWho: iwlist wlan0 scanning |
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| 19:43.46 | calamari | got past the first few dependency problems and huge chunks are upgrading now, so I think I'm making good progress :) |
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| 19:45.00 | rjk_ | cthuluh, I figured it out. Making /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf was the right idea. It was device driver name of "options <device driver name> index=0" thas was wrong. To get the right name you should check /proc/asound/modules. I went even further and blacklisted the wrong module instead of just giving it lower index. One more time for the help. |
| 19:45.11 | jhutchins_lt | calamari: wheezy is still testing and will break. |
| 19:45.13 | CaptWho | sorry, didn't understand, but i figured it out right before you replied last |
| 19:45.29 | rjk_ | cthuluh, One more time thanks for help.* |
| 19:45.32 | jhutchins_lt | CaptWho: So did it list the local AP's? |
| 19:45.41 | CaptWho | when i type in scanning, it spits out a list of APs |
| 19:45.42 | calamari | jhutchins, I'm good with it |
| 19:46.26 | jhutchins_lt | CaptWho: Ok, we know the function's working in the card and with the interface to it, so it must be a problem in the gnome applet (or network-marnager). |
| 19:46.49 | jhutchins_lt | CaptWho: I guess I would try removing the applet then re-starting it. |
| 19:47.12 | jhutchins_lt | CaptWho: I really don't do gnome, so "flip the switch off and on a few times" is the best I'm gonna do. |
| 19:47.21 | CaptWho | okay |
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| 19:50.39 | CaptWho | i have 3, network-manager, network-manager-gnome and mobile-broadband-provider-info installed. might there be a conflict? |
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| 19:52.19 | CaptWho | could there be a conflict with more than one network-manager operational and if so, which one should i keep? i'm running gnome2 |
| 19:52.50 | jhutchins_lt | nm and nm-gnome are parts of the same thing. |
| 19:52.58 | jhutchins_lt | No idea what the other thing is. |
| 19:53.24 | jhutchins_lt | n-m is the system level stuff, n-m-g is the gui interface applet. |
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| 19:56.16 | babilen | jhutchins_lt: mobile-broadband-provider-info just provides profiles for different mobile telcos. It eases to setup your 3G modem. |
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| 19:57.02 | jhutchins_lt | babilen: Ah, nice to know. |
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| 20:02.25 | besson3c | Hey guys… Is NFS4 UID mapping without using Kerberos still a no-go in Debian? |
| 20:04.09 | besson3c | I'm referring to the note here: AUTH_SYS |
| 20:04.14 | besson3c | oopss.. |
| 20:04.20 | besson3c | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto |
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| 20:04.39 | besson3c | Note regarding UID/GID permissions on NFSv4 without Kerberos |
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| 20:16.18 | gele | how do i change the uuid of a luks partition? |
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| 20:19.35 | gele | i thought there would be a way in cryptsetup, but i can't find any... do i need to use a hex editor or something like that? |
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| 20:26.51 | r3m | Hi, When I installed the os i choose to create only one partition. I, then, resized the partition and create a new one for data. But im unable to write to it if im not root. I know i need to mount it with user keyword but i dont know how to do it permantely |
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| 20:31.20 | Daemonik | I have a live network interface on a production host with the incorrect netmask. I want to change the netmask, could there be any potential disruption by running ifconfig 10.1.1.232 netmask 255.0.0.0 up ? |
| 20:31.31 | Brillo | r3m use gparted |
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| 20:32.45 | jhutchins_lt | r3m: Ignore Brillo, gparted is for changing partitions. You need to configure the partition in fstab. Have a look at what's there already (/etc/fstab). |
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| 20:36.57 | krish | hi |
| 20:37.06 | krish | does exim4 come installed default on lenny |
| 20:37.34 | Sm0ke0ut | exim will be installed by default, yes |
| 20:37.44 | jhutchins_lt | krish: If you choose "mail server". |
| 20:38.07 | Sm0ke0ut | it's always being installed, even with minimal settings :) |
| 20:38.11 | krish | strange. i didnt choose anything but minimal system |
| 20:38.14 | thewanderer1 | yeah well, local mail delivery |
| 20:38.22 | krish | Sm0ke0ut: oh it is? |
| 20:38.23 | themill | krish: cron will also drag it in |
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| 20:38.33 | Sm0ke0ut | yes |
| 20:38.39 | jhutchins_lt | Forgot about cron. |
| 20:38.39 | krish | duh |
| 20:38.41 | thewanderer1 | krish, apparently, local e-mail is assumed to be working in the UNIX world :P |
| 20:38.48 | jhutchins_lt | Is it on the minimal? |
| 20:38.50 | themill | (and cron is "standard"; lots of things will drag it in actually) |
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| 20:38.53 | Sm0ke0ut | yup |
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| 20:38.57 | themill | jhutchins_lt: it's in the standard task, yes |
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| 20:39.32 | krish | i was like pulling puppet configs on new squeeze install and apt failed with broken packages exim4-config |
| 20:39.39 | krish | puppet has recipe for postfix to be installed |
| 20:39.53 | krish | now i probably got to handle removing exim properly first |
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| 20:40.06 | Sm0ke0ut | exim will be uninstalled automatically if you install postfix |
| 20:40.09 | krish | thks for the confirmation Sm0ke0ut, themill, jhutchins |
| 20:40.10 | Sm0ke0ut | (or any other MTA) |
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| 20:40.20 | krish | Sm0ke0ut: via puppet it failed |
| 20:40.26 | krish | and then now even manually fails |
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| 20:41.03 | Sm0ke0ut | what error do you get with apt-get/dpkg? |
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| 20:41.04 | krish | it throws error like You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: |
| 20:41.05 | krish | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 20:41.05 | krish | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.12 | krish | oops sorry for the paste :) |
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| 20:41.50 | krish | Sm0ke0ut: ^ error above |
| 20:41.55 | Sm0ke0ut | tried to run it with the -f parameter already? |
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| 20:42.20 | jhutchins_lt | !puppet |
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| 20:44.03 | krish | Sm0ke0ut: nope. that would make it manual isnt it. We are trying strict puppet only policy |
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| 20:44.36 | krish | so i guess i should handle clean up of exim properly :) |
| 20:44.42 | krish | in puppet recipe itself |
| 20:44.55 | thousand | using launchpad ppa, manually adding ppa, what ubuntu version should I choose if I want to install Bumblebee under debian wheezy(testing)? AMD64 |
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| 20:45.52 | thewanderer1 | !slap thousand |
| 20:45.53 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across thousand's face |
| 20:46.21 | thewanderer1 | no, seriously, port it to Debian if you want to install it |
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| 20:47.09 | thousand | see, they only support it for arch and buguntu |
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| 20:47.54 | thewanderer1 | thousand, which does not prevent you from porting the package yourself |
| 20:48.52 | thousand | umm, since I am sort of new to linux I do not image what porting exactly means and how it is done |
| 20:49.13 | jhutchins_lt | thousand: Perhaps it is something best left alone. |
| 20:49.31 | bhundven | thousand: or email the maintainer, and ask him to make a debian package. |
| 20:49.45 | Sm0ke0ut | no doubt. can only cause extra problems |
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| 20:49.52 | calamari | thousand, you might get lucky with a ppa, you might not |
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| 20:50.22 | thousand | calamari: depending on what? |
| 20:50.37 | thewanderer1 | thousand, it will not work on Debian as it is |
| 20:50.37 | calamari | thousand, depending on whether the package dependencies work out |
| 20:50.38 | DarsVaeda | any good suggestion for a packet manager gui for xfce? |
| 20:50.48 | jhutchins_lt | thousand: Is this what you mean? http://freecode.com/search?q=bumblebee&submit=Search |
| 20:51.11 | jhutchins_lt | DarsVaeda: aptitude? |
| 20:51.15 | thousand | https://launchpad.net/~bumblebee/+archive/testing |
| 20:51.17 | calamari | thousand, and of course even if it does work, it might break in the future |
| 20:51.19 | thousand | this one, to be exact |
| 20:52.18 | thewanderer1 | thousand, again, it won't work on Debian because it is a set of distro-specific hacks |
| 20:53.13 | thousand | thewanderer1: how do you know it is ditro-specific hacks? |
| 20:53.26 | thewanderer1 | thousand, by looking at the source... :/ |
| 20:53.46 | calamari | thousand, I'm speaking generally.. I think thewanderer1 is speaking directly about that program |
| 20:53.56 | jhutchins_lt | thousand: Give it time though. |
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| 20:54.54 | thewanderer1 | if I had a NVIDIA Pessimus laptop, I'd seriously sell it and buy something decent :P |
| 20:55.02 | thousand | thewanderer1: wow, impressive, thanx |
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| 20:55.15 | thousand | jhutchins_lt: time for what? |
| 20:55.36 | nkuttler | thousand: btw, this project looks as dead as possible http://bumblebeeman.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:55.39 | thewanderer1 | thousand, you can try with vga_switcheroo and do manual switching, which should actually work |
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| 20:56.50 | thewanderer1 | the mantra is: stop X, remove the module, *do some magic which I forgot how to do but is presumably described in the kernel help*, load module for the other GPU, start... |
| 20:57.06 | bhundven | nkuttler: there code is on github |
| 20:57.07 | thewanderer1 | not sure if separate X configs are needed, they might be |
| 20:57.17 | thousand | nkuttler: it isn't that project, its the one for nvidia optimus implementation under linux |
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| 20:57.35 | xcvhu | Hi. At boot, my internet connection will not come up untill I run "ifdown eth0". I am using wifi on /dev/wlan0. My /etc/network/interfaces is here, can someone suggest a modification that will give me internet on boot up? http://paste.lisp.org/display/125660/raw |
| 20:57.36 | nkuttler | oh, ok |
| 20:57.42 | thousand | thewanderer1: I do read switcheroo is worse than manual acpi calls |
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| 20:58.26 | thewanderer1 | thousand, feel free to experiment with both, I don't know enough about the topic to tell you how those work |
| 20:59.10 | thousand | I see, thank you for your time |
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| 20:59.27 | calamari | xcvhu, if you don't hear a better answer: as a hack you can add the line you need to /etc/rc.local |
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| 20:59.50 | nkuttler | xcvhu: you might want a post-up script to bring down eth0, or just not auto it |
| 20:59.59 | nkuttler | xcvhu: see man 5 interfaces |
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| 21:01.58 | jhutchins_lt | nkuttler: allow-hotplug shouldn't bring it up unless it's live. |
| 21:02.27 | jhutchins_lt | xcvhu: You may be running network-manager, and you may want to disable it. |
| 21:03.15 | nkuttler | yeah, well remove the cable or hotplug.. or fix the routing or whatever is the issue |
| 21:03.55 | xcvhu | jhutchins_lt: I don't have network-manager installed. I may have at some point though |
| 21:04.06 | xcvhu | nkuttler: there is no cable plugged into eth0 |
| 21:05.39 | jhutchins_lt | xcvhu: Ok, check for wicd too, but that's unlikely. |
| 21:05.58 | jhutchins_lt | xcvhu: So it _shouldn't_ come up, but it appears to. Poor, confused hardware. |
| 21:06.01 | xcvhu | jhutchins_lt: I did install wicd a couple days ago, but had this issue before that |
| 21:06.18 | jhutchins_lt | xcvhu: Well, make sure it's not runnning. |
| 21:06.55 | jhutchins_lt | xcvhu: You could try commenting out eth0, and wlan0 too, and managing both with network-manager. Surrender to the Dark Side! |
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| 21:11.26 | StephenS | hey |
| 21:11.38 | StephenS | my clamTK virus scanner found 50 viruses and they all have type/status: heuristics.encrypted.pdf |
| 21:11.41 | StephenS | is that fake positive ? |
| 21:11.44 | StephenS | false positive* |
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| 21:13.24 | xcvhu | I've switched to network-manager for now and I'll see how I like it. I rather like a GUI interface for setting up wifi... (and this from a ratpoison user!) |
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| 21:13.36 | xcvhu | thanks guys |
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| 21:14.53 | babilen | xcvhu: wicd is sadly not really developed anymore ... |
| 21:15.05 | StephenS | ?????? |
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| 21:16.06 | jhutchins_lt | StephenS: Check with a real AV tool like AVG. |
| 21:16.31 | StephenS | avg on linux |
| 21:16.33 | StephenS | howto install? |
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| 21:16.46 | jhutchins_lt | http://avg.com |
| 21:17.19 | abrotman | why would he be confused that pdfs have a virus ? |
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| 21:18.03 | jair | hello guys, if I have an external drive formatted in NTFS probably from a windows xp system reporting some bad sectors on the disk utility application on debian squeeze will this be accurate? |
| 21:18.16 | pipeline | bad sectors are bad sectors |
| 21:18.37 | jair | can I run fsck on the disk? or should I run the checkdisk tool from windows? |
| 21:18.42 | StephenS | is that avg free? |
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| 21:19.04 | abrotman | StephenS: ask them .. how would we know ? |
| 21:19.05 | jair | pipeline: bad sectors mean physically or hardware damage correct? |
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| 21:19.16 | pipeline | jair: yeah usually |
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| 21:19.35 | pipeline | jair: hard drives have a reserve of "spare" sectors, so the ordinary failure rate of disk surface area is covered by the manufacturer |
| 21:19.36 | nsadmin | I have a cups running on a separate machine, can I print to it from win 7? how? |
| 21:19.48 | pipeline | jair: by the time bad sectors are exposed to the user, the drive is overflowing and has used all its spares |
| 21:19.52 | jhutchins_lt | StephenS: avg have a free version for linux, it takes a little digging on the site, but AVG is one of the best rated anti-virus programs available, and Clam can't even purge many of the viruses it finds. |
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| 21:20.09 | pipeline | jair: it's like roaches. By the time you see ONE roach on the floor in the kitchen, you're boned. That one roach is out on the floor because the nesting spots in the walls are overflowing. |
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| 21:20.31 | jair | pipeline: I see |
| 21:20.35 | abrotman | or cause it's hungry |
| 21:20.49 | alfplayer | the roaches theorem :P |
| 21:20.56 | jair | pipeline: so I should work on movind the data out of that drive... |
| 21:21.08 | abrotman | jair: you have a backup don't you ? |
| 21:21.19 | pipeline | jair: good luck with that. Odds aren't great. |
| 21:21.28 | joeoshawa | how about when partitions dissapear |
| 21:21.43 | jair | abrotman: this is an external drive...so that is my back up drive |
| 21:22.22 | joeoshawa | i had an entire filesystem disappear, the partition is still there just no filesystem |
| 21:22.25 | jair | pipeline: I can see the data on the drive fine now, I was just curious and checking all the drives with the disk (smart) utility in the debian squeeze |
| 21:22.43 | pipeline | jair: you may want to do more research then |
| 21:22.49 | pipeline | jair: SMART may be returning the number of consumed spares |
| 21:22.57 | pipeline | jair: not the number of outstanding, un-replaced bad sectors |
| 21:23.05 | pipeline | it's normal to have some bad disk areas |
| 21:23.09 | pipeline | it's not normal to have visible "bad sectors" |
| 21:23.36 | jhutchins_lt | fsck.ntfs doesn't seem to be in squeeze. |
| 21:23.43 | nsadmin | true. for them to be visible, you would have to open the drive... once you do that, you have a paperweight |
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| 21:25.30 | nsadmin | are the guesses made by the linux ntfs driver authors so good now to allow an fsck to be written? |
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| 21:26.44 | jair | pipeline: check this screen: http://i40.tinypic.com/21lr03s.png |
| 21:26.57 | jair | nsadmin: thank you for the info: http://i40.tinypic.com/21lr03s.png |
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| 21:27.34 | pipeline | jair: I don't know what this tool or w hat the heck it does |
| 21:27.35 | nsadmin | you mean you opened your drive and that's a pic of it?! |
| 21:27.45 | nsadmin | wow... |
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| 21:28.24 | jair | nsadmin: obviously I am pasting the screenshot of the debian squeeze utility for the smart asses in #debian |
| 21:29.17 | jair | so I am guding myself based on what that utility is saying |
| 21:29.18 | wissem | hello |
| 21:29.31 | jair | looks like the external drive report some bad sectors |
| 21:29.43 | nsadmin | well I've seen your nick before, so I didn't think you'd be led astray by the comment |
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| 21:30.58 | jair | not big deal we are all here to help each other, not good sense of humor since english is my second or third language :( |
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| 21:31.18 | nsadmin | the bad thing would be if any of those sectors are in active partitions |
| 21:31.35 | jair | nsadmin: this is an external drive |
| 21:31.44 | nsadmin | and? |
| 21:31.45 | jair | I only have one big partition on NTFS |
| 21:32.13 | jair | so it is active whenever I am copying and writing from/to it |
| 21:32.26 | jair | doesn't it? |
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| 21:32.45 | AR-Brad | I need help |
| 21:32.45 | nsadmin | oh, ok... so the filesystems possessing unix-like semantics and are mounted on your running debian are ok? |
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| 21:33.19 | nsadmin | AR-Brad, /msg dpkg ask ; /msg dpkg sicco |
| 21:33.39 | AR-Brad | nsadmin: What? |
| 21:34.02 | nsadmin | channel: brace yourselves... |
| 21:34.05 | AR-Brad | Questions about Debian are no longer allowed here? |
| 21:34.05 | nsadmin | !ask |
| 21:34.06 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:34.20 | AR-Brad | Oh, I see |
| 21:34.34 | nsadmin | !sicco |
| 21:34.34 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 21:34.58 | gele | well, hexedit worked fine. |
| 21:35.13 | gele | can't help but thinking there must be an easier way of changing the uuid on a luks partition. |
| 21:35.45 | AR-Brad | I have a problem with Network Manager. I'm running Debian version 6 Squeeze. I cannot get my laptop to search for a wireless signal while using Debian. Can I get som help? |
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| 21:35.55 | AR-Brad | some* |
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| 21:36.12 | Karyon | hello |
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| 21:36.23 | nsadmin | ok, so first it would be good to find out if it's a driver issue or not |
| 21:36.39 | gele | AR-Brad: it's probably the driver/firmware rather than network-manager. |
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| 21:37.27 | nsadmin | (and so you know, I haven't been able to use nm, had to edit /etc/network/interfaces and use ifup & ifdown) |
| 21:37.30 | abrotman | looks around ... |
| 21:37.34 | AR-Brad | gele: Okay.... Well, how do I install drivers? My wireless card came with a CD that has drivers for Linux, but I cannot get them to install for the life of me. I've already unzipped them. |
| 21:37.52 | AR-Brad | gele: I already installed the proper firmware for my card. |
| 21:37.58 | nsadmin | let's see if you have the drivers |
| 21:38.09 | nsadmin | as root, try: iwlist scan |
| 21:38.25 | AR-Brad | nsadmin: Are you talking to me> |
| 21:38.29 | AR-Brad | ?* |
| 21:38.30 | nsadmin | also, show the output of ifconfig -a in a pastebin |
| 21:38.36 | nsadmin | yep |
| 21:38.59 | AR-Brad | Well, I've tried iwlist scan, but here's the thing |
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| 21:39.26 | AR-Brad | In network manager it has me manually set my wireless settings, such as the SSID and the MAC Address. |
| 21:40.01 | AR-Brad | And when I do iwlist scan, all I get on the wireless card is the list of what I input for my wireless connection manually |
| 21:40.15 | AR-Brad | Even when I'm in a place with several available connections |
| 21:40.50 | nsadmin | so iwlist scan does not show anything for any interface? |
| 21:41.14 | AR-Brad | Only the manually inputted stuff on wlan0 |
| 21:41.16 | nsadmin | abrotman: could you give me/us a quick hand please |
| 21:41.25 | gele | is the interface perhaps locked to a single channel when network-manager has grabbed it? |
| 21:41.30 | Karyon | bye |
| 21:41.30 | gele | so it only scans that channel? |
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| 21:41.45 | AR-Brad | gele: How would I change that? |
| 21:42.03 | gele | AR-Brad: not sure. maybe disable wireless in network-manager before scanning. |
| 21:42.31 | AR-Brad | gele: When I do that, I get nothing on all interfaces, including wlan0 |
| 21:42.32 | nsadmin | ok, so at this point I'd like to see the output... do you have pastebinit installed? |
| 21:42.47 | AR-Brad | nsadmin: not at this time. |
| 21:43.01 | AR-Brad | And I'm using my parents laptop so I can't install it. |
| 21:43.05 | AR-Brad | That |
| 21:43.11 | AR-Brad | OOps, slipped |
| 21:43.18 | nsadmin | ok, is that machine connected? |
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| 21:43.20 | AR-Brad | That's why I'm trying to get my laptop working |
| 21:43.31 | AR-Brad | This one is, yes. |
| 21:43.43 | AR-Brad | But my own laptop is.... offline |
| 21:43.54 | nsadmin | oh, and it's your laptop which you'd like to get working? |
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| 21:44.05 | AR-Brad | Yessir |
| 21:44.18 | nsadmin | ok, got it... thanks for clarifying that |
| 21:44.23 | AR-Brad | If needed I can get my laptop online with an ethernet connection. |
| 21:44.25 | abrotman | nsadmin: give you a hand with ? |
| 21:44.31 | abrotman | AR-Brad: please .. less enter key |
| 21:44.36 | AR-Brad | But It may be quite sometime. |
| 21:44.40 | AR-Brad | Hm? |
| 21:44.46 | AR-Brad | Enter key? |
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| 21:44.56 | abrotman | stop hitting 'Enter' so often |
| 21:45.10 | AR-Brad | How do I send my messages? |
| 21:45.27 | abrotman | you don't need to type four words, and then hit enter, then type four more words |
| 21:45.28 | abrotman | !enter |
| 21:45.28 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 21:45.33 | nsadmin | he's noticing a lot of vertical movement... enter key causes more, so he's asking you to hit enter less |
| 21:45.49 | AR-Brad | Oh, I see.... Sorry. |
| 21:45.50 | themill | AR-Brad: it just makes it harder to follow what you're saying, that's all |
| 21:46.07 | AR-Brad | Ah... Okay, I'll be sure to not devide my sentences. |
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| 21:46.21 | abrotman | divide ... |
| 21:46.22 | nsadmin | and also fails to support other existing conversations well |
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| 21:46.43 | nsadmin | thanks, would appreciate thatg |
| 21:46.45 | AR-Brad | divide* |
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| 21:47.20 | nsadmin | ok, so it does look like you have the driver goign |
| 21:47.48 | nsadmin | sometimes tho, there might be many drivers that work on the one chipset |
| 21:47.54 | AR-Brad | It does? I don't even think I've installed the official driver from the CD. Just the frimware. |
| 21:48.04 | AR-Brad | firmware* |
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| 21:48.24 | nsadmin | oh ok... how did you install the firmware? |
| 21:48.42 | AR-Brad | Uhm.... I forget. |
| 21:48.47 | nsadmin | and before we go much further... could you run lspci -nn on the laptop |
| 21:48.57 | nsadmin | you'll see a lot of output |
| 21:49.06 | AR-Brad | Erm... I don't have it neer me at the moment |
| 21:49.10 | AR-Brad | near* |
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| 21:49.24 | AR-Brad | Sorry, I have no clue why I am typing so horribly. |
| 21:49.44 | nsadmin | what I need you to look at in that output is the line that goes with your wireless chipset |
| 21:49.45 | gele | AR-Brad: did you say what type of network hardware it was? |
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| 21:50.21 | AR-Brad | It is a Ralink USB Wi-Fi card with a speed of 58mps. |
| 21:50.29 | nsadmin | it should show a number that looks somethinglike [1234:abcd] |
| 21:50.37 | nsadmin | just need that number |
| 21:50.47 | AR-Brad | nsadmin: Would you like me to report back once I get that number? |
| 21:50.51 | nsadmin | oh wait nevermind |
| 21:51.02 | nsadmin | it's a usb |
| 21:51.08 | AR-Brad | Yessir. |
| 21:51.50 | nsadmin | so lspci wouldn't give the chipset of something on usb |
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| 21:52.15 | AR-Brad | So what do you suggest I should do? |
| 21:52.26 | gele | lsusb instead. |
| 21:52.32 | nsadmin | I did used to have a usb wireless |
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| 21:53.34 | AR-Brad | nsadmin: Did the USB wireless work with Debian? |
| 21:53.41 | nsadmin | yes it did |
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| 21:53.54 | AR-Brad | Was it hard to set up? |
| 21:54.05 | nsadmin | the drivers were already present in the kernel, so it was already set up |
| 21:54.18 | AR-Brad | Ah. |
| 21:54.39 | gele | AR-Brad: a completely uneducated guess: you probably want to install firmware-ralink from the non-free repository. |
| 21:54.45 | nsadmin | which unfortunately means... I have not ever worked thru problems in a usb wireless |
| 21:54.55 | AR-Brad | gele: I have done that. |
| 21:54.59 | gele | ah. |
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| 21:55.13 | AR-Brad | Now I remember, that's how I got the firmware. |
| 21:55.20 | nsadmin | is there any indication the firmware loads at boot? |
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| 21:55.25 | nsadmin | oh good :) |
| 21:56.04 | AR-Brad | nsadmin: Yes. It says that something about gdm3 and (wlano)link has been established. |
| 21:56.20 | nsadmin | oh, hmm |
| 21:56.32 | nsadmin | so it went even beyond loading the driver and the firmware |
| 21:56.34 | AR-Brad | Or similar. I can get the exact read outs once I get my laptop near me. |
| 21:56.54 | AR-Brad | Is that ba? |
| 21:56.59 | AR-Brad | bad* |
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| 21:57.08 | nsadmin | can you put the laptop near you and hook it up with ethernet? |
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| 21:57.50 | AR-Brad | Not at the moment. The only ethernet router in my house is being used by my brother, currently. I honestly have no clue when I can use it. |
| 21:58.07 | nsadmin | and no cord long enuf... |
| 21:58.13 | gele | can't you share the connection of the laptop you're on? |
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| 21:58.25 | AR-Brad | No. Haha, my cord is very small. Maybe 6" |
| 21:58.34 | AR-Brad | Share the connection? |
| 21:58.36 | nsadmin | 6 inches! |
| 21:58.42 | nsadmin | ??\ |
| 21:58.55 | nsadmin | woow |
| 21:58.57 | AR-Brad | Yes, it came with an old Lynksys router |
| 21:59.19 | AR-Brad | And how would I share the connection? |
| 21:59.20 | nsadmin | you sure it's not 6 feet? |
| 21:59.27 | gele | AR-Brad: connect your laptop to the laptop you're on with an ethernet cable, then set up the one with working wifi to share its connection over the ethernet link. |
| 21:59.35 | AR-Brad | I'm absolutley sure |
| 21:59.42 | nsadmin | wow... |
| 21:59.59 | AR-Brad | gele: Hmm... Is there a device on Windows XP for that? |
| 22:00.04 | nsadmin | you could use to borrow a much longer cable |
| 22:00.07 | gele | AR-Brad: don't know, sorry. |
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| 22:01.04 | AR-Brad | nsadmin: I know nobody in my area with technical equipment. Only way to get a longer cord would be to go to Radioshack and buy one, which is pretty much out of the question |
| 22:01.12 | AR-Brad | gele: Alright. I'll see if I can figure it out. |
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| 22:01.51 | nsadmin | so getting you on with ethernet is moved down in priority since it's much harder for you to do at the moment |
| 22:02.16 | AR-Brad | Yes, pretty much. |
| 22:02.19 | nsadmin | the only thing that would raise the priority is if you asked your bro when you can use it |
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| 22:02.42 | AR-Brad | Eh, he's 5 and using my parents desktop. |
| 22:03.05 | AR-Brad | And he's not a very good letter of user. |
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| 22:03.28 | nsadmin | well so then you would need to entice him with another toy |
| 22:03.47 | AR-Brad | I would never let him use my desktop! |
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| 22:03.56 | AR-Brad | He wouldn't like it anyway; it's dead slow |
| 22:04.22 | nsadmin | ok, so it would even be hard for the priority to come up |
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| 22:04.56 | nsadmin | where's the ap you're using? |
| 22:05.00 | AR-Brad | I get the feeling I should come back when my ethernet is available or a figure out a way to get my laptop and a desktop/laptop to share a connection. |
| 22:05.10 | ptrkmj | Hi, can you tell me what's wrong with my dependencies? http://dpaste.org/sO3c8/ |
| 22:05.24 | nsadmin | well I would say it's still possible to get it going |
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| 22:05.48 | nsadmin | but just harder and you'd have to get it close to where you are |
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| 22:07.33 | AR-Brad_ | Sorry about that |
| 22:07.35 | nsadmin | ptrkmj, it seems you might be mixing, maybe you're mixing sid with stable |
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| 22:07.43 | AR-Brad_ | This thing freaked out |
| 22:08.14 | AR-Brad_ | Anyway, does ap = access point, nsadmin? |
| 22:08.21 | nsadmin | AR-Brad_, yeah |
| 22:08.42 | ptrkmj | nsadmin: what's sid? |
| 22:09.06 | AR-Brad_ | nsadmin: Whenever I try iwlist wlan0 ap, it says that peers/access points have not been established. |
| 22:09.07 | nsadmin | the section of debian where they're working on stuff |
| 22:09.13 | ptrkmj | Can't apt handle dependecies for me? |
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| 22:09.40 | nsadmin | ptrkmj it should if you're not mixing |
| 22:10.00 | nsadmin | I'd like to see your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 22:10.13 | AR-Brad | who, me? |
| 22:10.21 | AR-Brad | Or ptrkmj? |
| 22:10.22 | nsadmin | nono, ptr |
| 22:10.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | knoppix? on't they have a support channel? |
| 22:10.33 | AR-Brad | Ok. |
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| 22:11.04 | AR-Brad | Anyway, I'll get out of your hair. I'll come back once I have a connection established with the laptop. |
| 22:11.13 | AR-Brad | Bye |
| 22:11.21 | ptrkmj | nsadmin: http://dpaste.org/sUPeO/ |
| 22:11.22 | nsadmin | ok, that would be a good as any |
| 22:11.45 | nsadmin | so I have to go right now... I'll take a quick look |
| 22:11.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | wow. |
| 22:11.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 22:12.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free |
| 22:12.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | fail. |
| 22:12.36 | nsadmin | you are very definitely mixing, and that's why the deps are getting confused |
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| 22:13.09 | nsadmin | you've got stable, maybe oldstable, testing, unstable and even experimental |
| 22:13.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | ptrkmj: where on earth did you get your sources.list? |
| 22:13.58 | nsadmin | you need to have just one of those, and (unfortunately) your system may have partially upgraded |
| 22:14.44 | nsadmin | if you don't have anything on that you want to save (like stuff in your /home/you) , would you be willing to reinstall? |
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| 22:15.28 | nsadmin | anyway, I have to go... Kamping_Kaiser, want to take over? got a rehersal |
| 22:16.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | nsadmin: enjoy |
| 22:16.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | nsadmin: i have work to do, but i'll do what i can :) |
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| 22:16.42 | jhutchins_lt | ptrkmj: Given that you weren't able to figure out what the problem is and how to fix it, it might be a good idea for you to install stable and run that for a while, get the hang of how Debian works. |
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| 22:17.52 | pvz | Hi, can someone explain to me the difference between the available kernels on install? What is the difference between selecting linux-image-2.6 or linux-image-2.6.32-5? Surely the latter is a subset of the first? |
| 22:18.20 | jhutchins_lt | pvz: Right. |
| 22:19.03 | jhutchins_lt | 2.6 will install the most current kernel, and if it updates later to 2.6.32.somethingelse it will upgrade to that, but if you select the specific kernel it won't. |
| 22:19.04 | pvz | So what is the difference then? |
| 22:19.06 | ptrkmj | jhutchins_lt: I need to install build-essential to build my kernel, then I reinstall |
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| 22:19.15 | pvz | Ah |
| 22:19.22 | pvz | For stability is it better to select .32 then? |
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| 22:19.30 | jhutchins_lt | The first one is a "meta package". |
| 22:19.40 | pvz | I will be using safe-upgrade a lot |
| 22:19.42 | ptrkmj | Can I somehow fix my situation? I don't know why is it such a mixdown. |
| 22:19.46 | pvz | so I guess I should go with the second? |
| 22:19.50 | jhutchins_lt | pvz: Theoretically, yes, but in stable the kernel updates shouldn't cause problems. |
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| 22:20.19 | pvz | Okay. Is it possible that security stuff might be missed if I select the specific kernel? |
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| 22:20.32 | jhutchins_lt | ptrkmj: Why not start with a stable kernel and build what you need from there? |
| 22:20.58 | jhutchins_lt | pvz: Possible. I'm no Debian jedi, but I think that might require an explicit kernel upgrade. |
| 22:21.08 | ptrkmj | But I only need one package. i don't care if my system is bad. when I finish building it's gone. |
| 22:21.19 | pvz | jhutchins_lt: Okay. Thank you! |
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| 22:22.02 | ptrkmj | Can I reinstall packages to stable versions? |
| 22:22.15 | ptrkmj | (all) |
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| 22:22.23 | ptrkmj | Would that solve my problem? |
| 22:22.58 | ptrkmj | Change sources.list and reinstall everything (or as much as needed) |
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| 22:26.36 | yassine | hi everyone im trying to set apt-cacher-ng up and when i apt-get update its takes ages and it still not finnished 26% [1 Packages 1,972 kB/7,479 kB 26%] any idea what could be wrong ? |
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| 22:27.19 | nicskerv | why? |
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| 22:28.09 | setre | why? |
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| 22:28.24 | yassine | setre, talking to me? |
| 22:28.40 | setre | yassine: why? |
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| 22:30.56 | joeoshawa | yassine, processor overloaded and/or ram and/or connection speed and/or overloaded server |
| 22:31.52 | joeoshawa | and/or updating the server |
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| 22:32.25 | joeoshawa | and or server is throttled |
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| 22:48.52 | astruasdh | please, do I need special routers to use IPSec or it keeps the IP header unmodified? |
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| 22:51.19 | windparadise | hello, pls I am trying to turn php_safe mode off, in /etc/php5/apache2 it shows safe_mode is off, but in http://www.berylhost.com/estates/info.php I am seeing safe_mode being on, where else can I check ? |
| 22:51.45 | somiaj | windparadise: did you restart apache after making the changes? |
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| 22:53.09 | windparadise | somiaj: in fact, safe mode is turned off lonng ago, I didn't do any setting |
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| 23:14.29 | frozencemetery | hmm, my sound appears to have stopped working |
| 23:14.36 | frozencemetery | (alsa) |
| 23:15.01 | frozencemetery | it was working fine, then mpd locked up; now anything that wants to make noise blocks as well |
| 23:15.02 | streuner | installed a new kernel? :-) |
| 23:15.23 | frozencemetery | nope; this is my laptop that's been running up-to-date squeeze |
| 23:15.44 | frozencemetery | it's been on this install since about june, iirc |
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| 23:17.11 | streuner | ALSA is part of the kernel, if you have issues, its most likely a kernel issue... |
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| 23:17.38 | frozencemetery | kernel is stock |
| 23:18.17 | streuner | so you are using a custom kernel? |
| 23:18.26 | frozencemetery | no |
| 23:18.31 | frozencemetery | I'm using stock squeeze |
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| 23:18.41 | streuner | well, it changed then, IMO |
| 23:19.05 | frozencemetery | this is my personal laptop and I can tell you that I have not applied any kernel updates since the last point release |
| 23:19.11 | frozencemetery | in any case it's working now |
| 23:19.49 | frozencemetery | there was an mplayer process that I forgot to close when restarting alsa and killing that fixed it |
| 23:20.38 | frozencemetery | ...no it's not. I got 8 seconds of play out of mpd and then it locked up again. |
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| 23:24.38 | frozencemetery | so playing known-good audio files through mplayer with nothing mpd running, I get no more than 10 seconds of play before it stops; killing mplayer and reopening it causes the same thing to happen again |
| 23:24.42 | frozencemetery | the amount of time is variable |
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| 23:26.27 | frozencemetery | running mplayer with massive -cache parameter shows that it's not a disk access issue; there's something that is(n't) happening when it goes to play the audio |
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| 23:32.43 | zleslie | Hi |
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| 23:32.52 | koshie_ | Hi |
| 23:33.36 | zleslie | I am trying to get my preseed hammerd out, and would like to know if its possible to use the value for domain that is provided by dhcp? I currently just accept the value and press enter, but I still have to press enter. I know that I can set it with my pxe config, but I don't want to |
| 23:33.55 | zleslie | mostly because I will have different clans, thus each vlan having a different domain, and dhcp will know this |
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| 23:34.10 | zleslie | is there an easy way to say, domain=from_dhcp or something? |
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| 23:36.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | iirc, yes |
| 23:36.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | have you had a look at the preseeding doco on the wiki? |
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| 23:38.17 | blink_ | gele: I stuck around to say thanks, got it to work and the dvds, together, restored to a single file. |
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| 23:38.35 | zleslie | Kamping_Kaiser: I've looked over some of it, yes |
| 23:38.59 | zleslie | Kamping_Kaiser: I am currently here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed |
| 23:39.04 | zleslie | among others |
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| 23:41.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | zleslie: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs04.html#preseed-network |
| 23:42.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs02.html#preseed-dhcp may also interest you |
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| 23:48.22 | zleslie | Kamping_Kaiser: I don't see an option to just accept what dhcp tells me, and move on though |
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| 23:49.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | # Any hostname and domain names assigned from dhcp take precedence over |
| 23:49.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | # values set here. However, setting the values still prevents the questions |
| 23:49.03 | Kamping_Kaiser | # from being shown, even if values come from dhcp. |
| 23:49.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | is that bit what you want? |
| 23:49.23 | zleslie | Yes, but... |
| 23:49.31 | zleslie | it still prompts me to hit =enter |
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| 23:50.05 | zleslie | Perhaps I need to comment those options out |
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| 23:50.37 | setre | is it possible to install ubuntu from debian without the use of a Compact Disc or usb boot, if so please let me know how |
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| 23:51.22 | abrotman | !tell setre about debootstrap |
| 23:51.28 | somiaj | setre: you can use debootstrap with non debian sources |
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| 23:51.57 | setre | thanks guys |
| 23:52.08 | setre | appreciate it |
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| 23:57.00 | zleslie | commenting out out the netcfg/get_domain had no effect. I still have to hit enter before d-i moves on with the installation |
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| 23:59.55 | fishhead | http://linuxdistroteamspeakcommunity.blogspot.com/ |
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