| 00:00.08 | fishsponge | now scrolling up to try and read what to do next... |
| 00:00.08 | jelly-home | now try to connect to :1 with your local vnc client on windows |
| 00:00.22 | fishsponge | oh, ok... i'll need to get a vnc client for windows first... let me go to google |
| 00:00.44 | fishsponge | RealVNC ? |
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| 00:01.18 | fishsponge | or TightVNC? |
| 00:01.21 | fishsponge | are they all the same? |
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| 00:01.26 | fishsponge | UltraVNC |
| 00:01.46 | fishsponge | should I just go with the first one? or are they all different? |
| 00:02.25 | jelly-home | pick any one? |
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| 00:02.38 | fishsponge | ok, i've heard of tightvnc, so i'll use that one... gimme a sec |
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| 00:04.04 | epsilon | I tried VNCs a while ago (like 1-2 debian versions ago), no much difference at all |
| 00:04.08 | fishsponge | ok, TightVNC Viewer installed and loaded... so should I put :1 as the "TightVNC Server" as you mentioned above? |
| 00:04.18 | epsilon | yes |
| 00:04.43 | fishsponge | Failed to connect to server (:1) |
| 00:04.48 | epsilon | :0 is actual display, :1+ is VNC |
| 00:04.59 | epsilon | did you start vnc server on the remote box? |
| 00:05.22 | fishsponge | epsilon, I ran the following on the remote box: env XAUTHORITY=/var/run/gdm3/auth-for-rhobbs-CIS1JW/database x11vnc -display :0 -localhost -rfbport 5901 |
| 00:05.29 | fishsponge | on the advice of jelly-home |
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| 00:06.05 | epsilon | umm dunno if that work... I usualy run normal vncserver session |
| 00:06.07 | architek | you also need the ssh client to be running. and check with windows netstat that the port is indeed opened |
| 00:06.32 | fishsponge | architek, I ran the SSH client with port 5901 tunnelled, again on the advice from jelly-home |
| 00:06.33 | epsilon | ssh for vnc? wtf |
| 00:06.35 | jelly-home | fishsponge: oh, try localhost:1 then |
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| 00:06.54 | fishsponge | ah... localhost:1 works perfectly! |
| 00:06.58 | epsilon | nice |
| 00:07.17 | fishsponge | using my 3200x1200 screen on a 1300x768 laptop is gonna be tricky, but I'm sure I can zoom out... and then take another screenshot! |
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| 00:07.20 | epsilon | then you have to make the port accessable from remote host |
| 00:07.44 | fishsponge | actually, it looks like I can't zoom out... i'll just have to scroll a *hell* of a lot. |
| 00:07.53 | jelly-home | epsilon: that's what the ssh tunnel is for. |
| 00:08.24 | epsilon | dunno if such big size is good idea for VNC... VNC is like making screensht of it frame and send it. So big picture = more lag and stuff to do for CPU = bad idea |
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| 00:09.12 | architek | I've found on my setup running the vnc client remotly and have it tunneled through ssh was working better for performance |
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| 00:09.50 | epsilon | if you have 1300x768 on laptop, I recommend VNC desktop little smaller - like 1200x700 |
| 00:10.01 | fishsponge | epsilon, well, i have no choice... the remote machine X session is already running, i cannot kill it, and i need to modify it so i can take another remote screenshot. |
| 00:10.27 | epsilon | ssh tunneling is optional for encryption. Not required if vnc is running in LAN and no extra security is required |
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| 00:11.11 | epsilon | fishsponge: crap[tm] |
| 00:12.05 | newboxen | hello, i'm setting up a new server.. has been a while since the last time i did it.. just wondering.. i've used reiserfs so far. has something better in terms of stability AND performance come out? I'll use this machine for virtualization purposes with mostly webservers/dbs installed. |
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| 00:13.22 | epsilon | xfs? |
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| 00:13.53 | newboxen | is that stable now? |
| 00:14.09 | epsilon | reiserfs is... not sure about it's development because of the main developers personal issue |
| 00:14.25 | jelly-home | newboxen: xfs has supposedly been stable for a couple years now |
| 00:14.30 | simonlnu | newboxen: for a long time... (xfs) |
| 00:14.32 | epsilon | I use xfs since years time to time, never had major problems |
| 00:14.40 | newboxen | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 << i've found this. i'll give it a read |
| 00:14.43 | jelly-home | what about minor problems |
| 00:14.54 | jelly-home | newboxen: how old is that article |
| 00:15.11 | newboxen | oh. |
| 00:15.15 | epsilon | if you want to be sure: ext3 or xfs |
| 00:15.49 | epsilon | rest is the question of the "great FS-religion" |
| 00:15.54 | newboxen | i think i'll go with xfs then |
| 00:15.59 | newboxen | hah. |
| 00:16.09 | babilen | jfs (just to mention it) |
| 00:17.52 | dork | hi i've been troubleshooting a problem on an ubuntu system for 15 hours, i have exhausted all ubuntu channels i can think of, so i'm going to try here. i did a distro upgrade that resulted in init not being able to put my software raid together, i can chroot to the environment, i have tried reinstalling legacy grub and reinstalling grub2 multiple times, i just can not get it. would anyone in here please help me trubleshoot this so i can go home? |
| 00:17.54 | epsilon | newboxen: write a blog if you ever experience a major difference to ext3/4... |
| 00:18.38 | dvs | !ubuntu |
| 00:18.39 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 00:18.42 | dvs | zzzzzzz |
| 00:18.45 | dork | ..... |
| 00:18.52 | dork | this is why i waited 15 hours to try here |
| 00:19.04 | biz | newboxen: you realize that webservers and dbs tend to have very different requirements? |
| 00:19.11 | epsilon | dork: which RAID-level? |
| 00:19.16 | dork | epsilon: raid1 |
| 00:19.27 | newboxen | biz: yeah, but i've only got one physical server |
| 00:19.47 | newboxen | biz: so i guess its only squeezing drops out of a dry lemon at this point, innit? |
| 00:19.47 | epsilon | dork: should not be a problem... tried a live-CD with mdadm support and mount a disk? |
| 00:19.54 | simonlnu | dork: not ubuntu |
| 00:20.04 | fishsponge | wahey - just what I wanted!! my own desktop! well... the left half of it... http://www.mongeese.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/miscellaneous-for-random-blog-posts/screenshot.jpg |
| 00:20.27 | dork | epsilon: i did, i can chroot to the environment fine, i can get into busybox and assemble md0 and md1 |
| 00:20.31 | epsilon | on raid1, all discs are storing same data. So if you can access one, you have the data you need |
| 00:20.37 | newboxen | biz: my point was to indicate that i do not have a specific requirement for small or large files |
| 00:20.39 | fishsponge | it's taken me 2 hours to get this screenshot, and it probably wasn't worth the time spent, but i've learned loads and it's been good fun, so thank you to all that helped! |
| 00:20.41 | simonlnu | epsilon: ahem |
| 00:20.51 | epsilon | ahem? |
| 00:20.54 | dork | epsilon: someone in #grub (after they made me do 4 dist-upgrades saying it was a known bug) told me to check the init scripts that are trying to bring raid up |
| 00:21.19 | dork | simonlnu: you're on ignore, i've already stated why i am asking for ubuntu help in here |
| 00:21.29 | epsilon | dork: 1st step, secure the data. Make backup. After that you can start debugging the bootloader |
| 00:21.38 | dork | epsilon: i've got it backed up |
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| 00:21.40 | simonlnu | dork: i don't care. channel policy. |
| 00:22.14 | epsilon | dork: did you run grub(-update|-install) whataver? |
| 00:22.23 | dork | i did |
| 00:22.37 | fishsponge | thanks, jelly-home, architek, erawfish_ and epsilon! your help is greatly appreciated. |
| 00:22.38 | simonlnu | epsilon: please refrain from 'helping' further |
| 00:22.50 | dork | what a joke |
| 00:23.04 | dork | epsilon: can i message you so the trolls don't get too uptight? |
| 00:23.04 | epsilon | dork: what's the result? |
| 00:23.09 | simonlnu | i thought you were ignoring me ;) |
| 00:23.17 | dork | simonlnu: i was hoping you'd shut up |
| 00:23.38 | dork | epsilon: it installs to /dev/sda and sdb |
| 00:23.47 | simonlnu | dork: i was hoping you'd respect the channel and leave |
| 00:23.55 | dork | simonlnu: go cry. |
| 00:23.56 | epsilon | dork: (and in case of *full scale* fuckup: install debian we can support, and restore data. I dunno a bit about ubuntu) |
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| 00:24.16 | dork | thanks epsilon |
| 00:24.30 | epsilon | dork: what does grub say on boot |
| 00:24.31 | epsilon | ? |
| 00:24.40 | simonlnu | !ops dork won't leave |
| 00:24.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: simonlnu complains about: dork won't leave |
| 00:24.49 | dork | epsilon: says this http://www.froward.org/~mike/screen.jpg |
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| 00:25.15 | dork | simonlnu: you're so pathetic it's amusing, people like you ruin IRC. |
| 00:25.28 | johntramp | hi. does debian use /etc/hosts.{allow,deny}? is there some package i need to install first? |
| 00:25.57 | dork | so grub's doing it's part |
| 00:26.05 | dork | it seems like initrd just doesn't know how to put the software raid together |
| 00:26.09 | dork | right? |
| 00:26.11 | zykotick9 | dork, the people ruining IRC right now are you and epsilon |
| 00:26.12 | jelly-home | dork: he's right in that if we wanted to provide free support for an ubuntu server, we'd join #ubuntu-server |
| 00:26.14 | simonlnu | dork: cry me a river. ad hominem me all you want, you've lost the argument already |
| 00:26.14 | babilen | dork: Please join #ubuntu for support. Now. |
| 00:26.42 | dork | wah wah, pedantic crying |
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| 00:26.56 | dvs | see ya |
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| 00:27.03 | jelly-home | initrd issues are rather distro specific |
| 00:27.15 | epsilon | dork: umm... i'm missing the lines where the HD-devices being detected... |
| 00:27.29 | babilen | epsilon: Lets move on |
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| 00:28.58 | epsilon | babilen: can't help you on ubuntu, cause I dont use it |
| 00:29.31 | simonlnu | epsilon: are you for real? |
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| 00:29.32 | epsilon | babilen: did you make any change in drives (hardware)? |
| 00:29.53 | babilen | epsilon: Please, drop it. This is #debian and I am *not* dork. |
| 00:30.08 | epsilon | dang |
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| 00:32.12 | epsilon | babilen: dont be that pathetic, if we can move him to use normal[tm] debian, we had have won |
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| 00:32.52 | epsilon | ignorance doesn't help |
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| 00:33.39 | babilen | epsilon: Stop it. |
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| 00:36.24 | jelly-home | !qotd0 |
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| 00:37.03 | jelly-home | !qotd0 |
| 00:37.03 | dpkg | Dabian: This is a support channel - not a help channel - which means we try to humiliate the users by exposing their lack of knowledge and netiqette, in a way subtle enough to not add to their knowledge. :-) |
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| 00:37.22 | mateolargo | i'm (trying to) manage a PPA for our company and have hit a bit of a snag |
| 00:37.44 | simonlnu | #ubuntu ->> |
| 00:38.27 | mateolargo | oh, am i not in the right place? |
| 00:38.41 | simonlnu | no, this is #debian |
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| 00:39.50 | jelly-home | or even #ubuntu-server |
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| 00:40.08 | Viliny | damn |
| 00:40.14 | Viliny | seems like im missing half the chat |
| 00:40.16 | jelly-home | because that other channel is often a lost cause for nontrivial questions |
| 00:40.31 | silvertip257 | I'm setting up a preseed config, but my automated installer halts (with a red screen) on the items for apt-setup/security_host as well as volatile_host ... any tips or ideas on why this happens or how to fix it? I have approx set up to cache packages during the install, have set DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 and here's a snippet of the APT section - http://pastebin.com/Xv2L5zq6 |
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| 00:48.29 | Guest91879 | anyone know a light gtk text editor? |
| 00:48.37 | Guest91879 | not gedit |
| 00:48.52 | tayne_ | geany? |
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| 00:51.25 | tensorpudding | what's wrong with gedit? |
| 00:52.21 | silvertip257 | Guest91879: leafpad is quite light |
| 00:53.09 | astartoth | mousepad is lighter. but leafpad print-previews to in .pdf format :) |
| 00:53.46 | silvertip257 | ah - I didn't realize leafpad could do that ... true though, mousepad is light as well (never compared them side-by-side or anything) |
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| 01:08.32 | lemonchickenftl | waaaaaaaaaat? |
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| 01:15.53 | glue | okay is opengl enabled by default in the xorg server |
| 01:16.03 | glue | just joined the debian camp again |
| 01:16.10 | glue | wasnt far |
| 01:16.13 | glue | was in ubuntu land |
| 01:16.58 | cardamon | Hell. Gnome-panel keeps trying to su to root instead of using sudo. |
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| 01:17.42 | maher | glue: see what glxinfo says |
| 01:18.06 | dbbo | i bought "4 GB" of memory, but `free -m` says i have 2894 MB. is that much of a discrepancy normal? |
| 01:18.37 | maher | dbbo: do you have a 32bit kernel? |
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| 01:19.09 | cardamon | dbbo: That depends on how much you have running. |
| 01:19.14 | lemonchickenftl | https://raw.github.com/gist/1340919/783b2359a1d0a7db50fce56f0a7a39d30d06f857/gistfile1.txt |
| 01:19.15 | lemonchickenftl | waaaaaaaaaat? |
| 01:19.17 | babilen | cardamon: You can configure the backend (su/sudo) that is used by gksu -- Check settings for it with gconf-editor (I can't remember the exact key right now) |
| 01:19.37 | babilen | lemonchickenftl: Please ask a real question if you want us to help you. |
| 01:19.40 | silvertip257 | lemonchickenftl: why do you keep pasting that? |
| 01:19.58 | dbbo | maher: no |
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| 01:20.19 | dbbo | 2894 is the TOTAL as reported by free |
| 01:20.35 | dbbo | 816 used, 2078 free |
| 01:20.43 | silvertip257 | dbbo: some might be stolen for video memory, but only a few megabytes usually |
| 01:20.59 | cardamon | silvertip257: Because no one's responded to him. Of course, he could look for it. |
| 01:21.08 | maher | dbbo: the standard 43bit kernels have problems addressing more than 2andabitG of memory - try a -bigmem kernel, or better run a 64bit kernel if you can |
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| 01:21.23 | maher | dbbo: s/43/32/ |
| 01:21.53 | dbbo | i am running a 64 bit kernel: 2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64 |
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| 01:22.37 | dbbo | i found a post that talked about enabling memory remapping in the bios, but i'ven ever heard of that |
| 01:23.04 | maher | dbbo: free -m on my 4G 64 bit kernel says total 3687 |
| 01:23.33 | dbbo | i'm "missing" almost three times that much, it seems |
| 01:24.17 | cardamon | Hmm.. |
| 01:24.35 | cardamon | Why are a lot of applications not using the GTK+ theme I selected? |
| 01:24.48 | maher | dbbo: what does dmesg say? |
| 01:25.14 | dbbo | maher: well, that's almost a thousand lines. what am i looking for? |
| 01:25.16 | maher | dbbo: mine says; Memory: 3761816k/5242880k available (3297k kernel code, 1339112k absent, 141952k reserved, 3393k data, 596k init) |
| 01:25.28 | maher | dbbo: dmesg | grep Memory |
| 01:25.41 | dbbo | Memory: 2959684k/3014336k available |
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| 01:26.37 | lemonchickenftl | babilen / silvertip257: i installed php and can't run it |
| 01:27.02 | maher | dbbo: no idea - is there some bios screen you can stare at and see if it says anything relevant? |
| 01:27.53 | babilen | lemonchickenftl: You did not install php5-cli -- I would also strongly suggest to upgrade your box to squeeze soon as security support for lenny will end in Feb. '12. The procedure is explained in the release notes. |
| 01:27.56 | cardamon | What package is glxinfo in? |
| 01:28.01 | cardamon | mesautils? |
| 01:28.03 | dbbo | i'll look through it on the next reboot. |
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| 01:28.43 | babilen | !tell cardamon -about apt-file |
| 01:28.43 | maher | cardamon: mesa-utils |
| 01:28.50 | dbbo | i'm wondering if some of the ram is bad, but that usually leads to a kernel panic in my experience |
| 01:29.14 | babilen | cardamon: In the future you can search for it with, for example: apt-file search -x "bin/glxinfo$" |
| 01:29.20 | petn-randall | dbbo: it really depends on how much of the ram is bad. |
| 01:29.22 | cardamon | Got it. |
| 01:30.03 | cardamon | babilen: Is that a regex in the quotes? match what ends with bin/glxinfo |
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| 01:32.10 | lemonchickenftl | thanks babilen will do :) |
| 01:33.04 | cardamon | Is it possible to run two X displays at once or one X display and one framebuffered console, rather than having those extended desktops |
| 01:33.14 | maher | cardamon: yes |
| 01:34.16 | maher | cardamon: or rather yes, depending on your exact hw set up and no I don't know how to do it offhand |
| 01:34.38 | babilen | cardamon: exactly |
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| 01:36.03 | cardamon | Well, I have a two monitors of disparate resolutions. The big nice one is onn my HDMI port, the older one on my VGA on my card. Ask and I'll grep you appropriate lspci lines. But tools like lxrandr don't see the VGA one at all anyway. |
| 01:36.19 | cardamon | so it's kind of just sitting here being inert. |
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| 01:37.18 | cardamon | ,pciid[10de:1040] |
| 01:37.21 | judd | [10de:1040] is 'GT520 [GeForce GT520]' from 'nVidia Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'nvidiafb' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:1040 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 01:37.22 | maher | cardamon: you have two physically distinct graphics cards? |
| 01:37.28 | cardamon | Just the one. |
| 01:39.04 | maher | cardamon: if you have a vga / dvi coming off the same card i don't know whether they can always be used independently... |
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| 01:39.38 | cardamon | maher: Most likely incorrect. |
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| 01:40.31 | cardamon | The most immediate evidence I have of which is...uncomfortable for me to say in here. Never the less, the same configuration works...in Windows. |
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| 01:41.11 | maher | cardamon: well - its good to know there is no hw obstacle to what you want to do... |
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| 01:44.19 | cardamon | ahah |
| 01:44.26 | cardamon | nvidia-settings can manage it |
| 01:44.43 | cardamon | however it moved all my wondows and useful things to the leftmost screen |
| 01:44.48 | cardamon | Which I do not like. |
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| 01:45.01 | pundit | i have an InputDevice section in my xorg.conf in which i have set a xkblayout but it does not have any effect. When i do setxkblayout on the command line i get the effect. could it have to do with evdev? |
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| 01:48.51 | glue | sorry i was away |
| 01:49.07 | glue | maher, glxinfo indicates sgi software rendering on my ppc box |
| 01:49.25 | glue | ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] |
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| 01:53.52 | cardamon | !dpkg xinerama |
| 01:53.53 | dpkg | [xinerama] where you have several monitors but only one logical desktop -- XFree86 4.0 and X.org have it! Documentation is available: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Xinerama-HOWTO.html , or functionality is provided by randr in recent Xorg drivers, ask me about <randr>. |
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| 01:59.15 | cardamon | Woo, I did it. |
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| 02:01.37 | mick_laptop | does mirror.kernel.org no longer host a debian mirror? |
| 02:01.39 | mick_laptop | deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze main |
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| 02:02.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | mick_laptop: look at the dists directory |
| 02:02.20 | mick_laptop | Err http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze/main tzdata all 2011d-0squeeze1 404 Not Found |
| 02:03.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | ok? so your package list or thier mirror is out of date |
| 02:03.33 | mick_laptop | i did an aptitude updatebefore, so their mirror must be outdated |
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| 02:19.47 | wireddd | is there a how-to on setting up a debian server to provide a pxe server and storage so I can netboot a bunch of windows 7 machines from it? |
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| 02:21.55 | somiaj | wireddd: look into samba |
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| 02:53.50 | Bushmills | wireddd: for setting up a netboot server, look at dnsmasq |
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| 02:59.17 | wireddd | the netboot server is no problem, I guess I need to figure out if I there is an iscsii server daemon for linux |
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| 03:02.09 | Joelito | question, I'm using startx and my ~/.xinitrc to start my window manager, but when I close the "X" system, a lot of messages, warnings, etc., are dumped...any ideas about how to avoid this? |
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| 03:05.41 | Bushmills | Joelito: redirect output to nulldevice, or use a display manager |
| 03:06.36 | Bushmills | or press ctrl-L after exiting X |
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| 03:08.50 | nsadmin | I'm trying to see why timidity is not prodicing sound into jack in its as-installed default config |
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| 03:10.02 | cardamon | Hmm, no sound. |
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| 03:13.53 | cardamon | Okay, I'm in the audio group. |
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| 03:16.07 | cardamon | And speaker-test doesn't make any noise |
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| 03:21.54 | nsadmin | first of all, I'm using qtractor to feed the midi to something, I have an ext midi device (kurz pc-2x fed by midisport 2x2) but for present app would rather have it feed timidity which would then provide audio to jack which I could then record with something like ardour |
| 03:22.26 | cardamon | And fixed it. |
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| 03:23.15 | nsadmin | the problem I'm having now, is not getting audio or a channel for jack coming from timidity |
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| 03:29.07 | allmighty | Greetings! |
| 03:29.31 | allmighty | and salutations fellow computer users! |
| 03:32.26 | allmighty | I have not tried it, but the new ubuntu desktop (unity?) seems awefull! I dont want a smartphone UI on my home desktop! |
| 03:33.57 | cardamon | allmighty: #not-debian or #debian-offtopic |
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| 03:34.24 | allmighty | cardamon: oki.. |
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| 03:35.38 | cardamon | allmighty: This is more of a support channel. We're all here asking questions and answering questions about Debian. You're not asking a question, and what you are talking about is not Debian. |
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| 03:37.35 | allmighty | cardamon: i know! :-) |
| 03:38.35 | nsadmin | so it could happen that someone here knows what you need... hope so... and, that conversation would take place elsewhere (anothyer channel, priv msg) |
| 03:38.47 | allmighty | To be honest, i would rather spread my skit in #slackware, but some guy has banned me for life there.. :-P |
| 03:39.18 | nsadmin | how does one spread a skit? |
| 03:39.45 | allmighty | nsadmin: ask your mum |
| 03:40.07 | allmighty | sorry! :-) |
| 03:40.26 | nsadmin | is the word "skirt": |
| 03:40.30 | nsadmin | ? |
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| 03:41.22 | nsadmin | no prob I suppose... again I hope you find an answer somewhere |
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| 03:42.04 | allmighty | nsadmin: i misspelled it, thanks for pointing it out |
| 03:42.44 | nsadmin | oh... what word did you mean? |
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| 03:44.23 | allmighty | The word i ment was, "the friendly jesus-type-guy on the internet! |
| 03:45.03 | nsadmin | and you want to spread this?! ok, this is just too silly... |
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| 03:46.34 | nsadmin | btw, I couldn't get unity to work when I tried it |
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| 03:48.37 | allmighty | nsadmin: i dont want to "spread it" and since you brought it up, to whom? |
| 03:49.03 | nsadmin | hmm, timidity is not running...that could be the problem, and it won't start |
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| 03:49.53 | allmighty | nsadmin: let me know when you've done a contribution to free software.. it will be all balls ans whisles from my behalf, belive me! |
| 03:51.18 | nsadmin | I added a perl interpreter to aolserver |
| 03:51.54 | nsadmin | and got the basic memory alloc/dealloc working properly |
| 03:52.20 | allmighty | nsadmin: not bad, but nothing to hang in your chrismas tree :-) |
| 03:53.46 | nsadmin | kinda busy for pissing contests or prove-it games... trying to get this thing working |
| 03:55.41 | nsadmin | hmm, timidity can't connect to a jack started as root |
| 03:56.36 | nsadmin | wasn't started as root, was started as me, and it's running |
| 03:57.49 | nsadmin | but timidity thinks jack is not running, complains socket doesn't exist |
| 03:57.50 | allmighty | nsadmin: you have done a great deal of work indeed! Maybe i should apply you for next year McArthur Award for "overall greatness" |
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| 03:59.13 | nsadmin | allmighty, not feeling all that altruistic at the moment... but, as you respond to me, is it because you have some sort of sensation? |
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| 04:00.33 | allmighty | nsadmin: not att all! I just feel inferior when you say you basically changed the internet... |
| 04:01.23 | allmighty | I know you didnt! And im rather stupid right now, im just having a conversation! :-) |
| 04:02.18 | allmighty | nsadmin: what kind of music do you like? |
| 04:02.24 | nsadmin | I didn't go as far as I wanted with the perl interp; maybe if I did people would use it... for the moment I'm ok using the existing tcl interp with aolserver |
| 04:02.54 | allmighty | ok, discard my music question ^ |
| 04:02.59 | nsadmin | anyway, have a good evening; this would be my last msg to you |
| 04:03.32 | allmighty | same to you. You seem like a good person! |
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| 04:04.27 | setre | can metacity's window placement be reconfigured? if so please let me know how to |
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| 04:14.36 | setre | is there a window manager that has the features of Windows 7? |
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| 04:15.08 | boudiccas | setre; and what features does windows 7 have? |
| 04:15.22 | somiaj | setre: you'll have to be more specific. What things do you want? |
| 04:15.36 | Joelito | setre, tasbar preview? |
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| 04:16.38 | setre | boudiccas, somiaj: alrite, there are some positioning features that I like, doubleclick window frame to maximize vertically, drag window to edge to have it occupy 50% of the screen |
| 04:17.49 | setre | i think there is some of this stuff in ubuntu |
| 04:18.22 | somiaj | setre: I use fvwm and it can be configured to do many things. Both of those seem possible, but you will have to be familar with config files and willing to learn. |
| 04:18.48 | somiaj | setre: by default you may not like it at all. I don't know of any wm that has those features by default. |
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| 04:23.13 | setre | somiaj: okay, thanks for answering! |
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| 04:31.47 | ne7work | Hello all, |
| 04:32.30 | ne7work | I want to compile kernel 2.6.33.9 with rt patch? |
| 04:32.35 | ne7work | From where can I learn how? |
| 04:32.41 | ne7work | http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ ? |
| 04:34.44 | somiaj | ne7work: why that kernel version? |
| 04:35.03 | somiaj | 2.6.32 is the version on squeeze, and does the backport 2.6.39 from backports have the features you want? |
| 04:35.06 | ne7work | Because RT patch http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/ |
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| 04:35.49 | ryoshu | hi how to check (online) what requires and suggest a specific package |
| 04:36.00 | somiaj | yes what is RT patch, why do you want it? You can compile any kernel you want and source, look into make-kpkg and compling the debian way. |
| 04:36.30 | somiaj | ne7work: I would strongly suggest not doing 2.6.33, with 2.6.32 from debian you at least get security updates. I would go with 3.0 if you want a newer kernel. |
| 04:36.40 | somiaj | ryoshu: packages.debian.org |
| 04:36.56 | ryoshu | somiaj: I don't find such option there |
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| 04:37.15 | ne7work | how can I compile with the debian way if I want to use rt patch? |
| 04:37.34 | somiaj | ryoshu: use apt-cache then |
| 04:37.59 | ryoshu | somiaj: I don't have DEB distro |
| 04:38.02 | somiaj | ryoshu: but looking though depends/suggests/recomends takes a while. Why is it you want to do this? |
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| 04:38.29 | ryoshu | somiaj: I want to check what requires or suggests ispell |
| 04:38.39 | somiaj | ne7work: Do you know how to patch/compile a kernel in the first place? |
| 04:38.56 | ne7work | I am not sure |
| 04:39.01 | ne7work | Before I tried one time |
| 04:39.14 | ne7work | by the way why I can't find 2.6.33.9 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ ? |
| 04:39.28 | ne7work | but have rt patch for 2.6.33.9 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/2.6.33/ ? |
| 04:39.30 | somiaj | ne7work: What is it in the RT patch set you want? |
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| 04:39.50 | ne7work | I need RT patch for gameservers |
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| 04:43.04 | jsoft | Anyone use rootbsd.net for their vps? |
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| 04:47.04 | ryoshu | somiaj: I can probably install Debian in VirtualBox if there isn't online way to check this, how to use apt-cache to see the dependencies, to check what package requires or suggest something specific |
| 04:47.53 | somiaj | ryoshu: I still do not know a way to search though just the recomends/depends/suggests field. Again what is it you are trying to achive with this? |
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| 04:48.51 | ryoshu | somiaj: I want to check what software uses (or suggests) aspell, what ispell what hunspell etc |
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| 04:50.34 | ryoshu | somiaj: in my Mageia I type "urpmq --whatrequires aspell" etc |
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| 04:50.54 | somiaj | aptitude may have a better search tool. |
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| 04:52.27 | ryoshu | OK, I will try to install Debian in a virtual machine and try to search such options |
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| 04:52.56 | somiaj | I know aptitude has lots of ~ search options to search though specfic fields, and it may search though all the 'suggests' field |
| 04:53.22 | ryoshu | I see |
| 04:53.30 | ryoshu | thanks! |
| 04:54.12 | ne7work | it's correct to cd linux-2.6.33.4 and type bzip2 -dc ../patch-2.6.33.4-rt21.bz2 | patch -p1 for patching? |
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| 04:56.12 | somiaj | ryoshu: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html |
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| 04:58.19 | somiaj | ryoshu: there is a ~Daspell (Searchs for all packages that depend on aspell (or even depend on libaspell) |
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| 04:58.33 | h1ll37 | I'm trying to mount a hp 500 gb external hard drive on debian and it's telling me it can't mount cus it says wrong fs type |
| 04:59.38 | ryoshu | somiaj: thank you, is this a text tool? Installing just in tty Debian could be faster |
| 04:59.49 | somiaj | ryoshu: seems with ~D you can also specify the depend type (Be it suggests, depends, conflicts, etc) |
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| 05:00.59 | somiaj | ryoshu: yes its just a text tool. Do you have a linux machine? You could use debootstrap and quickly make a minimial install and chroot into it just to search though the online sources |
| 05:01.17 | somiaj | ryoshu: you'll need probably 350ish megs or so space for a minimal chroot debian basesystem. |
| 05:02.03 | somiaj | ryoshu: aptitude is the online package manager with super cow powers |
| 05:02.04 | ryoshu | somiaj: I use Mageia it's a linux distro, I'm downloading the cd-1 iso |
| 05:02.42 | somiaj | ryoshu: just download netinstall. If you don't want to actually install debian, install debootstrap on your linux distro and just put it in a chroot (this may be more efficent for your pourposes than a full virtual machine) |
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| 05:03.22 | ryoshu | somiaj: ok, let me find information about debootstrap |
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| 05:06.09 | ne7work | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y |
| 05:06.10 | ne7work | 0% [Connecting to ftp.de.debian.org] |
| 05:06.13 | ne7work | how can I change my mirror? |
| 05:07.00 | Sm0ke0ut | by editing /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:07.00 | karlpinc | !tell ne7work about sources.list |
| 05:07.09 | debsan | ne7work, you must change the sources.list file |
| 05:07.11 | simonlnu | !sources.list |
| 05:07.12 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
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| 05:08.24 | ne7work | root@ne7work:/home/ne7work/Downloads/linux-2.6.33.4# make menuconfig-su: make: command not found |
| 05:08.25 | ne7work | why? |
| 05:08.55 | simonlnu | it's not installed... |
| 05:09.00 | simonlnu | !b-e ne7work |
| 05:09.00 | dpkg | ne7work: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 05:09.23 | joeoshawa | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.24 | joeoshawa | ng out superblocks |
| 05:10.00 | simonlnu | ouch |
| 05:11.03 | joeoshawa | anyway to fix this? |
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| 05:11.30 | somiaj | ne7work: you should use make-kpkg, and you need to install build-essential on your system. |
| 05:13.00 | h1ll37 | shit dicks |
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| 05:16.58 | simonlnu | joeoshawa: try fscking it |
| 05:19.47 | joeoshawa | what would the command |
| 05:19.49 | joeoshawa | be |
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| 05:20.03 | joeoshawa | its not mounted |
| 05:20.36 | ryoshu | somiaj: ok, debootstrap is shiped with my distro and I'm bootsrapping Debian, thanks |
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| 05:20.43 | box | hi |
| 05:21.00 | box | i have saslauthd running on every boot, i don't need it. is it safe to rm /etc/init.d/saslauthd? |
| 05:21.27 | simonlnu | joeoshawa: fsck /dev/whateverpartition |
| 05:22.13 | somiaj | ryoshu: with just a base system you should be able to chroot into where you put it and run aptitude to search though the database for the version you installed. You can modify /etc/apt/sources.list to give more sources to search though. |
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| 05:24.17 | joeoshawa | there is only one partition on that drive how do i tell what dev it is and would it be there if its not mounted |
| 05:24.41 | joeoshawa | if i fsck a mounted partition it will corrupt it |
| 05:24.54 | somiaj | joeoshawa: dmesg should tell you what it was assigned to |
| 05:25.01 | joeoshawa | thanks |
| 05:25.44 | somiaj | joeoshawa: if its already mounted, 'mount' will list what is mounted where |
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| 05:27.50 | simonlnu | joeoshawa: don't ever read/write fsck a mounted partition |
| 05:28.16 | joeoshawa | simonlnu, i know that's why i said taht |
| 05:28.18 | joeoshawa | that |
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| 05:32.09 | joeoshawa | the superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. if the device is vaid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device> |
| 05:33.02 | joeoshawa | so should i just type e2fsck -b 8193 sdb |
| 05:33.42 | joeoshawa | i made it an ext4 |
| 05:33.46 | nsadmin | got timidity to do somfin! |
| 05:35.39 | somiaj | joeoshawa: usually the file system is on the parttion /dev/sdb1 (were you looking for the file system on /dev/sdb? |
| 05:36.17 | somiaj | joeoshawa: dpkg -l /dev/sdb will list the partition table |
| 05:36.24 | joeoshawa | somiaj you cannot fsck a mounted filesystem it was another drive |
| 05:36.50 | joeoshawa | it has a corrupt superblock |
| 05:36.59 | simonlnu | joeoshawa: it's ok, i was just warning you |
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| 05:37.27 | joeoshawa | simonlnu, thanks i appreciate it |
| 05:37.33 | somiaj | well if the file system is on /dev/sdb1 and your looking for it on /dev/sdb it won't find the superblock. |
| 05:37.46 | somiaj | but I'm confused now. |
| 05:37.56 | joeoshawa | somiaj, its a second drive |
| 05:38.26 | somiaj | are you running fsck on /dev/sdb of /dev/sdb1? |
| 05:38.33 | somiaj | s/of/or/ |
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| 05:39.08 | joeoshawa | somiaj, there is only one partition on that drive ie no sdb1 |
| 05:39.08 | ryoshu | somiaj: ok it's that what I was looing for, thanks! |
| 05:39.20 | joeoshawa | only sdb |
| 05:39.26 | joeoshawa | and its not mounted |
| 05:39.50 | joeoshawa | simonlnu, is that the command i should use |
| 05:39.52 | somiaj | joeoshawa: there is no partition on the drive then. if there was one, it would be called /dev/sdb1 -- but that is fine, you can write a file system right to the drive and not parttion it. |
| 05:40.35 | joeoshawa | somiaj, there is a partition but the superblock is corrupted so the filesystem does not see it |
| 05:41.11 | ryoshu | looking* |
| 05:41.19 | somiaj | sometimes you can just recreate the partition table identicle to the way it was before and it will see the old file system just fine. I wouldn't gurantee this though. |
| 05:41.26 | joeoshawa | i need to write a new superblock but want to know if that is the command i should use |
| 05:42.12 | joeoshawa | somiaj, don't care i could always repartition it |
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| 05:42.26 | Jef91 | How can I manually remove a post install script from a package? |
| 05:42.29 | Jef91 | It keeps failing out |
| 05:42.43 | Jef91 | and I recall editing it once before, but I don't remember where it is at on my system |
| 05:42.50 | joeoshawa | somiaj, i need a single partition on the drive to put movies and tv shows for my daughter on it |
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| 05:43.05 | joeoshawa | i wanted to make it ext4 |
| 05:43.14 | joeoshawa | and share it |
| 05:43.24 | joeoshawa | so they can watch them |
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| 05:43.43 | somiaj | Jef91: they are located in /var/lib/dpkg/info (you can just modify it to make it exit normally (fix the issue)) then dpkg --configure -a the package |
| 05:43.53 | somiaj | Jef91: put an exit 0 at the top line or something if you want to ignore the whole thing |
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| 05:44.07 | Jef91 | Yep. |
| 05:44.09 | Jef91 | Thanks somiaj |
| 05:44.17 | Jef91 | that path is what I couldn't remember |
| 05:44.18 | joeoshawa | but first i need to fix the superblock. gparted backed up the superblock to another sector |
| 05:44.25 | somiaj | joeoshawa: is there any data on it you need to recover now? If not just repartition it so it sees the /dev/sdb1 parttion and put a new filesystem on it. |
| 05:44.41 | mvv | i'd like to download all of the sid source tarballs, i notice there are testing dvd isos, presumably no sid, is there an easy way to achieve what i want? |
| 05:44.55 | somiaj | joeoshawa: if you don't need to recover the old file system (because of data) you don't need to fix the superblock, just rewrite the whole thing. |
| 05:45.28 | mvv | [would jigdo create sid src dvd isos for me? :] |
| 05:45.45 | somiaj | mvv: why? its a moving target? anyways look into apt-mirror you can mirror the debian archives, and choose just to mirror sid source packages. |
| 05:45.49 | joeoshawa | somiaj, i just tried to repartion it it writes the superblock to the same corrupt sector |
| 05:46.01 | joeoshawa | so corrupt superblock |
| 05:46.21 | joeoshawa | i can do it hundreds of times and get the same result |
| 05:46.28 | somiaj | joeoshawa: sounds like bad hardware then. Have you tried cfdisk? |
| 05:46.28 | joeoshawa | smart says its ok |
| 05:46.32 | mvv | somiaj: well, the end result will be stored on a series of too many dvds |
| 05:46.42 | mvv | somiaj: hmm, alright, will check out apt-mirror, cheers |
| 05:47.01 | somiaj | mvv: well apt-mirror is a way to get them all on your local network, you can then split them up, back them up as desired. |
| 05:47.45 | joeoshawa | i think the superblock got corrupted when the computer got rebooted without shutting down |
| 05:47.59 | joeoshawa | the drive is ok |
| 05:48.12 | joeoshawa | that superblock is corrupt |
| 05:48.21 | somiaj | the partition table has nothing to do with the superblock of the file system |
| 05:48.38 | joeoshawa | its the zero sector |
| 05:48.43 | somiaj | if you don't care about your data put a new file system on the device. If it corrupts each time, its most likely hardware. |
| 05:49.35 | ne7work | If I choose M for SATA drivers and I am with SATA HDD do I will have kernel panic? |
| 05:49.37 | somiaj | joeoshawa: what is the output of fdisk -l /dev/sdb? |
| 05:50.14 | somiaj | ne7work: depends on if you use initramfs or not to put the modules into |
| 05:50.32 | ne7work | If I choose SATA drivers as module |
| 05:50.40 | ne7work | Do I will have kernel panic? |
| 05:50.48 | ne7work | Do I need to choose this with * |
| 05:51.08 | somiaj | I said it depends. If you set up all your core module to be packed in an initramfs (like the debian kernels) they will load just fine |
| 05:51.29 | ne7work | initramfs what this mean? |
| 05:51.30 | somiaj | if you don't use initramfs, yes you have to comiple support so the kernel can find your root filesystem (to then load other modules) |
| 05:51.50 | ne7work | how to use initramfs? |
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| 05:52.46 | joeoshawa | pastebin.com/6778fVSt |
| 05:53.43 | ne7work | somiaj, ? |
| 05:54.25 | somiaj | joeoshawa: ok now your giving me conflicting info, you said you had no /dev/sdb1. 'dmesg | grep sdb' -- also try to fsck /dev/sdb1 (see if the file system is there) |
| 05:54.42 | joeoshawa | yeah i don't get it either |
| 05:55.06 | ne7work | how to edit grub? |
| 05:55.09 | ne7work | and save changes? |
| 05:55.17 | joeoshawa | everything is giving me an error and not reading it but fdisk |
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| 05:55.43 | somiaj | joeoshawa: can I see the output of 'dmesg | grep sdb' and 'mount' |
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| 05:58.27 | somiaj | ne7work: I think you are a bit out of your legue and don't want to help you compile your first kernel over irc. You can try to copy the debian kernel config file from /boot/config-2.6.32-<foo> and start from there. |
| 05:58.31 | ne7work | somiaj, how to use initramfs? |
| 05:58.36 | joeoshawa | pastebin.com/XQbQLH4n |
| 05:58.54 | ne7work | I already configured my kernel.. |
| 05:59.03 | ne7work | but how to use initramfs? |
| 05:59.17 | joeoshawa | damn that don't look good |
| 05:59.25 | ne7work | I already configured and build my kernel.. |
| 05:59.37 | ne7work | but I have modules for device drivers and file systems |
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| 05:59.42 | ne7work | how to use initramfs? |
| 06:00.13 | somiaj | joeoshawa: its looking like a bad driver. It could be a bad cable, bad contoler, but I/O errors make it seem more than just your filesystem is bad. |
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| 06:00.38 | somiaj | ne7work: mkinitramfs -- though ask google. I personally don't use t and compile my core stuff right into my kernels (but now I'm happy using debian kernels, don't like debugging keeping up wth all the kernel changes) |
| 06:00.39 | joeoshawa | drive shot? |
| 06:01.26 | somiaj | joeoshawa: hard to say, I'd have to try it in other systems, see if its the cable or controler. But its most lkely hardware. What kind of drive is this? sata internal? |
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| 06:01.58 | joeoshawa | no its older |
| 06:02.01 | joeoshawa | ide |
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| 06:02.18 | somiaj | do you have an 80pin ide cord on it? It could be just a bad ide cable do you have another? |
| 06:02.27 | joeoshawa | she has her filesyetem on a 20 gig |
| 06:02.41 | joeoshawa | was hoping to use this one just for media for her |
| 06:03.21 | joeoshawa | tried it with both |
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| 06:03.55 | joeoshawa | it seems to cut in and out tho |
| 06:04.14 | joeoshawa | could try it in my pc |
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| 06:04.37 | joeoshawa | tho i don't know if my system will like mixing ide and sata |
| 06:04.46 | somiaj | it could also be the controler on the mobo. You have it setup as master/slave correctly (as opposed to using cabel select) |
| 06:04.53 | joeoshawa | caused .... issues before |
| 06:04.57 | somiaj | if it has an ide controler on it, it won't mind. |
| 06:05.21 | joeoshawa | its cable select |
| 06:05.29 | somiaj | really no difference than haveing a sata hd and a ide cdrom. Its just another device. |
| 06:05.31 | joeoshawa | i could make it slave |
| 06:05.58 | joeoshawa | actually it was a ide dvdrom that caused issues |
| 06:05.59 | somiaj | well check the bios, if it appears correctly as the master and/or slave there that probabaly isn't the issue. I'm still thinking faulty drive |
| 06:06.04 | joeoshawa | hardware conflict |
| 06:06.34 | joeoshawa | yeah bios says there fine even smart says drives ok |
| 06:07.27 | joeoshawa | everything is reading fine and the 20 gig is on the same cable and its ok |
| 06:07.54 | joeoshawa | thats what the os is on |
| 06:08.00 | somiaj | you could try to put some of those errors into google, read around. but bad hd is still my guess |
| 06:08.13 | joeoshawa | sob |
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| 06:08.27 | joeoshawa | i don't have another drive to give her |
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| 06:09.43 | joeoshawa | that is only the second drive i ever had go on me |
| 06:10.59 | joeoshawa | i still got a 4 gig at my ex's place that works... no reason to bother a usb would be better for $15 then it but it works fine |
| 06:11.23 | joeoshawa | thanks anyway |
| 06:11.47 | joeoshawa | damnit to hell |
| 06:12.56 | somiaj | joeoshawa: you could try a livecd, or another cable, maybe a live cd plus that as the only drive on the controler, make sure its not something else. But I cannot think of anything. |
| 06:14.18 | joeoshawa | naw the drive is done i will have to try and see if i can get a pos with another drive or something |
| 06:14.52 | joeoshawa | i don't even think you can buy a ide drive anymore |
| 06:15.02 | joeoshawa | everything is sata |
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| 06:28.29 | cnz | I installed apache/mysql/phpmyadmin on debian everything works fine but phpmyadmin when I try to go to domain.com/phpmyadmin it gives me unable to connect, anyone have any ideas |
| 06:29.21 | somiaj | cnz: you may have to do additional configuring to have it access the databases. check /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin -- usually contains useful info about the post install configuring steps |
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| 06:40.27 | cnz | somiaj: I got it th anks |
| 06:40.41 | cnz | the new domain that was added to apache I forgot to add the logs dirc so apache wasn't loading |
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| 07:54.57 | konverguoju | hi, how do I get information about battery usage? |
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| 07:57.36 | somiaj | konverguoju: there are various ways, do you want it to display on your dekstop or just get it ina console? |
| 07:58.00 | somiaj | konverguoju: gnome/kde both have battery applets, you should be able to find one and run it in their systray/pannel |
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| 07:58.20 | konverguoju | somiaj: thanks, what about console output? |
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| 08:02.37 | somiaj | konverguoju: try acpi -V |
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| 08:04.30 | somiaj | it use to be contained in /proc or /sys, but I cna't seem to find it. Its not in /proc/acpi on this system |
| 08:06.06 | somiaj | ahh its /sys/class/power_supply |
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| 08:07.44 | konverguoju | thanks : |
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| 08:14.21 | konverguoju | somiaj: which file should I check to see battery usage (in miliwatts I suppose), I checked majority of them but maybe I missed something |
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| 08:15.30 | somiaj | konverguoju: did acpi -V not show it, or acpi -b doesn't show you enough? |
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| 08:16.22 | thewanderer1 | konverguoju: you can calculate power usage by sampling the charge values (I think it's in mAh) over some time period and deriving the wattage from that (the voltage should be available somewhere) |
| 08:16.31 | somiaj | konverguoju: /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/charge_now (though not sure on its units -- that is my system) |
| 08:17.22 | thewanderer1 | actually the unit seems smaller than mAh, can't quite remember the SI prefixes at 9 am on Saturday :/ |
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| 08:23.36 | konverguoju | somiaj: did you mean power_now, I don't have such file "charge_now" |
| 08:24.09 | somiaj | konverguoju: I don't have that, but I'm running sid on a newer kernel, things may change. |
| 08:24.27 | konverguoju | oh I see, I'm on wheezy |
| 08:24.32 | konverguoju | what's the newest kernel? |
| 08:25.01 | somiaj | could be slighly different hardware too. I'm on 3.0, probabaly same as wheezy |
| 08:25.53 | konverguoju | yes, It's the same, weird people on ubuntu can get information measured in miliwatts |
| 08:26.29 | somiaj | what tool are they using? |
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| 08:31.19 | nsadmin | !koinelz |
| 08:31.50 | konverguoju | watch grep rate /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state |
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| 08:33.57 | nsadmin | , kernels |
| 08:33.58 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-2-686-pae (3.0.0-6); wheezy: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-38); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 08:34.15 | nsadmin | those are the kernels available in various dists of debian |
| 08:34.34 | nsadmin | the actual latest kernel is probably not in this list |
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| 08:37.06 | Kre10s_ | ok. so i'm trying to create a package for ubuntu... I seem to have done everything correctly up to, creating the actual package sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc |
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| 08:38.16 | nsadmin | remember that ubuntu is normally based on some snapshot of sid... after they take the snapshot they do things to it |
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| 08:38.43 | Kre10s_ | pbuilder tries to build my package, but can not find ao/ao.h. My package depends on libao... how do i specify this dependancy? |
| 08:38.54 | simonlnu | that's less true now, and they patch it themselves too, and do weird things... |
| 08:39.46 | nsadmin | not everyone here knows what was done and so it's not always clean or easy for folks here to support it (unless of course they are individually familiar with it) |
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| 08:40.20 | nsadmin | why does it depend on a header? |
| 08:41.12 | nsadmin | is your package used in the building of other software? |
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| 08:57.58 | Kre10s_ | nsadmin, if i want to compile my package from source, i will need the header it relies on. |
| 08:58.32 | Kre10s_ | my package is a simple program, one executable, that requires libao. |
| 09:00.14 | nsadmin | so that's a build depend of the package, not a depend of the binary |
| 09:01.12 | nsadmin | so your package has that lib (probably called something like libao(something)-dev |
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| 09:02.49 | nsadmin | as you continue to maintain the package thru versions of debian (or ubuntu), you may have to adjust the source to accomodate newly changed semantics of the lib |
| 09:03.15 | Kre10s_ | I don't know. its a shared library that i link to. |
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| 09:03.43 | nsadmin | and is that lib available as a package? |
| 09:03.46 | Kre10s_ | yes. I assume that if the library changes, i will have to modify my source. |
| 09:04.02 | Kre10s_ | yes. synaptic offers it. |
| 09:04.14 | nsadmin | is there a -dev version? |
| 09:04.24 | Kre10s_ | yes, as well. |
| 09:04.47 | nsadmin | well actually libs are split into the part needed by bins and the part needed to compile against it |
| 09:04.59 | Kre10s_ | I installed both while developing my source |
| 09:05.11 | nsadmin | so you will need to add a build dependency in your package |
| 09:05.20 | nsadmin | you know you need that lib... |
| 09:05.31 | nsadmin | but the autobuilders need to know |
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| 09:07.18 | nsadmin | typically the autobuilders "install" debian into an image, just barely enough to compile a specific package, and they build your package |
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| 09:08.45 | nsadmin | so the autobuilder has to know what to install into the image in order to build the package |
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| 09:10.12 | Kre10s_ | so in control i would put Depends: libao-dev ? |
| 09:11.08 | Kre10s_ | I doubt that this is the right place. |
| 09:11.26 | nsadmin | not Depends:, it's probably called Build-depends: |
| 09:12.03 | nsadmin | Depends: libao-dev would mean your package needs libao-dev to -run- |
| 09:12.19 | nsadmin | actually the library depends are calculated automatically |
| 09:12.39 | nsadmin | the binary ones; you still need the Build-depends |
| 09:12.55 | Kre10s_ | Build-Depends: looks like |
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| 09:16.49 | Kre10s_ | I've added the line: Build-Depends: libao-dev (>=1.0.0~) but still get the same error. |
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| 09:18.38 | nsadmin | well again, anything I say is fairly inexact; I described the autobuilders that build the packages for debian and what info they need; all that is (or was?) true... ubuntu -might- have autobuilders, it wouldn't make sense to me if they didn't since they can... |
| 09:20.28 | nsadmin | put it this way... if ubuntu does not have autobuilders, they'd have to build all the packages by hand or nearly so |
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| 09:22.41 | Kre10s_ | I've got the error here: http://pastebin.com/3yr8ieLj |
| 09:23.35 | Kre10s_ | am I correct to say it is having trouble running make clean? |
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| 09:52.50 | Kre10s_ | his package appears to be the first packaging of a new upstream software package (there is only one changelog entry and the Debian revision is 1), but it does not close any bugs. The initial upload of a new package should close the corresponding ITP bug for that package. |
| 09:53.00 | Kre10s_ | *this... |
| 09:53.28 | Kre10s_ | how do i do this? |
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| 09:58.21 | zhxk | hello, how to optimize linux based ssh proxy server? |
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| 10:04.59 | SupaYoshi | Hi, anyone have a good Fail2Ban guide? Im trying to find one, but I keep getting bad ones, or uncompleted ones :P |
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| 10:31.32 | nsadmin | SupaYoshi, it's a daemon, so it has a config file which you would edit if you want to change things, after which you would stop and start fail2ban so it reads the new config |
| 10:32.06 | nsadmin | that pretty much applies to any daemon... and other than the details of the specific daemon, that's pretty much it |
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| 10:34.12 | SupaYoshi | Hey nsadmin, how to use sudo, in debian? = su? |
| 10:34.29 | SupaYoshi | I got it nsadmin, I was just like following a guide, and there was some section Iptables i couldnt locate in my file |
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| 10:35.40 | rozie | SupaYoshi: su and sudo are separate commands. everywhere |
| 10:35.50 | SupaYoshi | hehe ohh ok :P |
| 10:35.58 | SupaYoshi | but i heard sudo isnt working on debian like it is on ubuntu |
| 10:36.05 | SupaYoshi | what is the command for sudo on debian if you dont mind me asking? |
| 10:36.27 | rozie | it is working exactly the same. if you provide the same configuration |
| 10:36.28 | nsadmin | dusu |
| 10:36.44 | fredy | hello, at the last two posts of the bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=616308 it is said that the problem is solved. Unfortuneatelly I am still experiencing the effects of this bug. I have installed and re-installed the newest nvidia drivers (280.13.really.275.28-1) and the libcairo2 package. I am on debian testing. Any idea what can I do? Thanks |
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| 10:36.55 | rozie | and command for sudo is of course sudo |
| 10:37.07 | nsadmin | err sudo |
| 10:37.19 | rozie | but you need to install the package |
| 10:37.40 | nsadmin | right, debian doesn't install sudo by default the way ubuntu does |
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| 10:39.16 | rozie | fredy: Another bug, related to trapezoid acceleration, |
| 10:39.16 | rozie | has appeared with Xorg 1.11.1, which causes terrible slowdowns and high |
| 10:39.16 | rozie | CPU usage. The temporary cure is a patch at |
| 10:39.16 | rozie | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=166698&page=2 |
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| 10:40.01 | nsadmin | rozie rozie bo bozie fozie dozie mo mozie... |
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| 10:40.06 | nsadmin | roz zie! |
| 10:40.14 | rozie | 4 lines, you stupid bot! ;-/ |
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| 10:40.27 | nsadmin | that was 4 lines :) |
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| 10:40.31 | Bushmills | SupaYoshi: actually, it is the other way around, sudo on ubuntu isn't working as it is on debian |
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| 10:40.44 | Bushmills | as it does, even |
| 10:41.02 | fredy | rozie: So the people that say the problem is solved, are still experiencing these slowdowns? |
| 10:41.04 | Bushmills | reasons seems to be that ubuntu has modified the configuration :P |
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| 10:41.09 | Quibus | hi all |
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| 10:41.12 | rozie | Bushmills: elaborate please? |
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| 10:41.32 | rozie | fredy: it looks like there is more than one problem |
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| 10:41.32 | Quibus | I used to use music-applet to get notifications and a quick control of rhythmbox. But that package is gone now. What are the alternatives? |
| 10:41.47 | Bushmills | rozie: just my 2 cents to "sudo isn't working on debian is it does under ubuntu" |
| 10:42.00 | rozie | Bushmills: but what's the difference? |
| 10:42.16 | fredy | I see, I will try the patch to see if there will be any difference. thanks again :) |
| 10:42.20 | rozie | (with the same configuration) |
| 10:42.38 | Bushmills | same config no diffs, i suppose |
| 10:42.46 | Bushmills | different configs different behaviour |
| 10:43.12 | rozie | so, it works the same. just default is different |
| 10:43.18 | nsadmin | rozie, well if the config is unchanged, then the difference would be the sudo code... otherwise a quick diff -u oldconfig newconfig should tell you what the differences are |
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| 10:44.10 | Bushmills | rozie: as the configuration is the means to influence a program's behaviour, you can make them "work differently" by changing the config. |
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| 10:45.00 | Bushmills | there's be no point having a config if that wasn't the case |
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| 10:45.58 | nsadmin | since the ubuntu sudo package is derived from debian's, hopefully the configs are close enough so diffing them makes sense |
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| 10:51.11 | erawfish_ | 11:43 < rozie> so, it works the same. just default is different |
| 10:51.57 | erawfish_ | 11:43 < rozie> so, it works the same. just default is different |
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| 10:54.04 | babilen | fredy: If you are talking about the trapezoid rendering problem: No need for the patch, just install nvidia-kernel-dkms from experimental. |
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| 10:55.55 | fredy | babilen: thanks, I'll give it a try |
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| 10:56.38 | erawfish_ | 11:43 < rozie> so, it works the same. just default is different |
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| 10:57.55 | babilen | erawfish_: hmm? |
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| 11:00.42 | Iridos | dpkg, echo |
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| 11:08.23 | simonlnu | Iridos: you made dpkg quit! :P |
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| 11:17.22 | SupaYoshi | how to create an user account? |
| 11:18.37 | acemi | adduser as root |
| 11:19.11 | SupaYoshi | done, but how to setup password? |
| 11:19.27 | acemi | adduser will ask for a password |
| 11:19.41 | acemi | or passwd username to change after... |
| 11:21.21 | SupaYoshi | got it :D thnx, ehm but now it says: Could not chdir to home directory /home/username: No such file or directory |
| 11:22.42 | acemi | adduser command adds the user's home directory too |
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| 11:23.53 | SupaYoshi | :P i did useradd.... |
| 11:24.07 | acemi | hmm it's different |
| 11:24.23 | timo | you should use adduser instead of useradd |
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| 11:24.45 | SupaYoshi | yea ik ik , but now i delete the account? and try over? |
| 11:24.54 | acemi | deluser |
| 11:25.03 | Iridos | simonlnu, it was his union break |
| 11:25.36 | SupaYoshi | ok :P |
| 11:26.23 | Iridos | now what I wonder... why did you ask in the first place, when you then ignored the advice anyway and did something else |
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| 11:28.05 | SupaYoshi | what is apt-get in linux? :P |
| 11:28.16 | SupaYoshi | (debian) |
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| 11:28.24 | SupaYoshi | Because I already created the user, using guides..... :P and then i couldnt specify the password and came here |
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| 11:30.48 | acemi | you need to write the same password twice after adduser |
| 11:30.53 | babilen | !tell SupaYoshi -about reference |
| 11:31.00 | babilen | !tell SupaYoshi -about introduction |
| 11:31.16 | babilen | SupaYoshi: apt-get is one of Debian's package managers |
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| 11:33.03 | vsync_ | apt, that is |
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| 11:37.56 | Fudge | hi in lenny update-grub only finds itself, how can it see other isntallations that use grub-pc ? |
| 11:38.55 | blubberdiblub | Fudge, by installing the package os-prober |
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| 11:41.00 | Fudge | tks :D |
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| 11:42.30 | pulb | hi, does anyone know what happened to the debian rolling release idea? is it still considered? |
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| 11:42.55 | Cyanure | HI , I want to configure a server as a router, anyone has a good tuto ? |
| 11:43.16 | daveo | lxde is rolling, i believe |
| 11:43.44 | cthuluh | lmde? |
| 11:44.16 | cthuluh | !tell Cyanure -about debian cut |
| 11:44.29 | cthuluh | err, not Cyanure :) |
| 11:44.34 | cthuluh | Cyanure: see lartc.org |
| 11:45.48 | Cyanure | seems pretty complicated |
| 11:46.01 | pulb | i guess there arey many people interested in a up2date vanilla gnome3 distsro that is based on debian, now that ubuntu if focusing on their unity DE and only cherry-picking gnome components |
| 11:49.06 | purpleoptic | gnome 3 will come into debian when it's ready I wouldnt worry too much |
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| 11:53.53 | erawfish_ | !tell Cyanure about ipmasq |
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| 11:57.07 | erawfish_ | Fudge: if you want to chainload more grub installations, I think you need to edit menu.lst manually |
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| 12:03.40 | Fudge | daveo lmde you mean? |
| 12:03.51 | Fudge | erawfish_ ty mate |
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| 12:07.01 | daveo | Fudge: yes, think mind not coffee rich yet |
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| 12:08.09 | Fudge | :D |
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| 12:13.11 | SupaYoshi | My defaultroot ~ in proftpd.conf isnt working even after restarting proftpd |
| 12:13.24 | SupaYoshi | I want my users to only be able to access theyre home directory :p |
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| 12:30.59 | kernelwut | hello |
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| 12:32.07 | kernelwut | i just set up a new machine that has a XEON processor.. running a apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade is doing this: "Preparing to replace linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 2.6.32-35squeeze2 (using .../linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64_2.6.32-38_amd64.deb) " . using AMD64 on a xeon just doesnt seem right to me. |
| 12:32.12 | kernelwut | any suggestions? |
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| 12:33.47 | erawfish_ | !amd64 |
| 12:33.48 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. Intel Core 2 and Core i3/i5/i7 systems are x86-64. See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>. |
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| 12:34.13 | erawfish_ | kernelwut: amd64 is for xeons too |
| 12:34.55 | kernelwut | erawfish_: so thats just fine? |
| 12:35.00 | erawfish_ | yes |
| 12:35.03 | kernelwut | nothing "more optimized" available? |
| 12:35.11 | kernelwut | it just seems funny to use AMD on an intel processor :) |
| 12:35.22 | kernelwut | and i cant find a valid article explaining this |
| 12:35.26 | erawfish_ | no. amd64 is optimized for your xeon. learn who invented x86-64 and you will know |
| 12:35.43 | erawfish_ | dpkg just explained it to you |
| 12:35.44 | dpkg | erawfish_: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 12:36.00 | kernelwut | oh. |
| 12:36.36 | kernelwut | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.36 | dpkg | The Debian architecture that runs on 64-bit processors from AMD and Intel is called "amd64" because the architecture was first developed by AMD. AMD64 is variously known as x86-64, x64, IA-32e, EM64T, EMT64 and Intel 64 (most of which are the Intel marketing people changing their mind). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64. |
| 12:37.09 | kernelwut | lol @ marketing |
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| 12:42.34 | BW^- | how do i flush debian/linux' built-in dns cache? (i don't have any dns server built in, and it seems the machine caches dns records?) |
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| 12:43.30 | Valasar | hi there |
| 12:43.41 | Valasar | does empathy wont work with icq? |
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| 12:47.10 | cthuluh | BW^-: do you have nscd installed? |
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| 12:50.01 | BW^- | cthuluh: nope |
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| 12:50.22 | erawfish_ | some programs like iceweasel have their own cache |
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| 12:53.10 | StyXman | I have a lenny machine which is using mirrors.kernel.org's repos, but I find that there some packages are missing, and archive.debian.org does not have lenny yet. should I use another mirror? |
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| 12:54.00 | themill | StyXman: mirrors.kernel.org have been down for a few months now. Lenny isn't an archived release though; pick another mirror |
| 12:54.41 | StyXman | here's the install log: http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/6951 |
| 12:55.24 | StyXman | themill: right. any suggestions? |
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| 12:55.46 | themill | dpkg: tell StyXman about lenny sources.list |
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| 12:55.59 | kryoge | hi |
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| 12:56.46 | kryoge | is there actually any messenger client (windows live) with webcam support? |
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| 12:57.32 | StyXman | themill: there's no http.ar.debian.org... |
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| 13:02.56 | erawfish_ | StyXman: use any other south american mirror then? |
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| 13:03.16 | themill | StyXman: dpkg didn't suggest that you use that. |
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| 13:04.19 | Sinchancen | hi there, how can i upgrade from stable to testing? |
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| 13:07.22 | StyXman | themill: actually it suggested "cdn.debian.net", probably it's outdated? |
| 13:07.59 | StyXman | erawfish_: strange enough, I get better speeds from North-America :| |
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| 13:08.50 | erawfish_ | no, it's not outdated |
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| 13:09.48 | StyXman | well, ar.debian.net does not exist either |
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| 13:10.03 | themill | StyXman: cdn.debian.net != ar.debian.net ... |
| 13:10.10 | StyXman | themill: ah, duh |
| 13:10.31 | themill | StyXman: I know exactly what dpkg told you. I wrote it myself and double-checked it before telling it to you. |
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| 13:11.23 | StyXman | themill: ok, ok, don't get upset |
| 13:11.40 | StyXman | I can make mistakes, can I? |
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| 13:12.39 | dark-sun | what should I do with "vpn service failed to start" on gnome network-manager? |
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| 13:13.00 | erawfish_ | dark-sun: do you want to use a vpn? if so, which one? |
| 13:13.35 | dark-sun | erawfish_: it's a pptp connection. what do you mean by "which one?" |
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| 13:14.13 | erawfish_ | there are diffent VPN implementations |
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| 13:14.19 | erawfish_ | *different |
| 13:14.57 | tdn | I am trying to boot a machine via PXE boot. I have set up dhcp server to send 'next-server' command to the client. I have installed tftpd and created pxelinux.0 and such. However, when I boot the client machine, it gets PXE-E32 (TFTP open timeout). I have tried capturing traffic with tcpdump (http://paste.adora.dk/P2215.html) I really hope you can help me debug this as I have tried for several hours now and I am stuck. |
| 13:15.05 | dark-sun | erawfish_: i don't know. it's a vpn connection I used to connect with in lmde before. it has a gateway (ip address) and a username/password. |
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| 13:15.24 | erawfish_ | try to connect manually? |
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| 13:15.32 | dark-sun | erawfish_: yup |
| 13:15.37 | StyXman | themill, erawfish_: thanks, bye |
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| 13:15.47 | tdn | Also, I have tried connecting manually with atftp. It works. |
| 13:16.04 | tdn | Server is Lenny. |
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| 13:17.58 | wittiko | hi i have following problem with apt-mirror: http://paste.adora.dk/P2216.html Does anybody know a solution. The error is not always but i would say about 50%. |
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| 13:24.16 | dark-sun | what should I do with "vpn service failed to start" on gnome network-manager? |
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| 13:30.52 | Bushmills | dark-sun: ignore or fix, i'd say. |
| 13:31.31 | dark-sun | i can't ignore. failure is no option for us B-) |
| 13:32.00 | Bushmills | leaves fixing. it helps to find out the reason why vpn didn't start, |
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| 13:32.32 | dark-sun | is that a package? |
| 13:32.52 | Bushmills | no. it's often approached by reading logs |
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| 13:33.00 | dark-sun | :D |
| 13:33.08 | dark-sun | sure.. as soon as I find them! |
| 13:33.17 | dark-sun | any idea? |
| 13:33.30 | Bushmills | about reading? |
| 13:33.52 | Bushmills | i'd start top left, and work towards the bottom. |
| 13:33.59 | themill | dark-sun: /var/log/daemon.log normally has n-m logs in it |
| 13:34.00 | dark-sun | about finding files! |
| 13:34.10 | dark-sun | thanks! |
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| 13:36.42 | danielig_ | hey, can someone give me a hint howto recover files from a reformatted ext4 drive? the drive was encrypted before under archlinux with the drive-encryption that comes with gparted. I have it now mounted from a live CD. |
| 13:36.52 | nsadmin | is the squeeze ardour compiled with freesound.org support? |
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| 13:37.49 | danielig_ | I ran photorec over it and it gave me tons of unuseable .eCryptfs files, and I am now trying testdisk |
| 13:38.59 | danielig_ | problem is, that I reformatted the drive and put my /home partition on it, however, contents is still very limited in the home partition |
| 13:39.10 | danielig_ | I think I have not overwritten too much data. |
| 13:39.30 | Quibus | I used to use music-applet to get notifications and a quick control of rhythmbox. But that package is gone now. What are the alternatives? |
| 13:39.39 | erawfish_ | but what makes you think you can decrypt the stuff? and how is this problem debian related? |
| 13:40.29 | danielig_ | because debian-folx are clever and know a lot ;-) |
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| 13:40.41 | danielig_ | so I am hoping to get a hint here... |
| 13:40.50 | erawfish_ | please ask #linux. have a nice day |
| 13:40.54 | jelly-home | danielig_: if you were using ecryptfs, you are going to need to use its tools to unlock the files |
| 13:41.07 | jelly-home | !ecryptfs |
| 13:41.08 | dpkg | eCryptfs (Enterprise Cryptographic Filesystem) is a POSIX-compliant encrypted filesystem, part of the Linux kernel since version 2.6.19. The userland utilities are packaged for Debian as ecryptfs-utils. https://launchpad.net/ecryptfs #ecryptfs on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 13:41.48 | danielig_ | so is gparted using ecryptfs to encrypt the drives or partitions? |
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| 13:41.58 | jelly-home | it's not gparted. |
| 13:42.26 | erawfish_ | and since you get .ecryptfs files for some reasons, I doubt it encrypts either |
| 13:42.27 | jelly-home | ecryptfs is a fuse-based, file-based encryption tool |
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| 13:43.19 | jelly-home | so the "real" fs has all the encrypted files, and at login time ecryptfs is mounted on top of that to provide you access to your $HOME |
| 13:43.39 | jelly-home | you are how seeing the backend files. |
| 13:43.43 | jelly-home | now* |
| 13:44.00 | Bushmills | not sure about fuse - i think it isn't. encfs is fuse based |
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| 13:44.37 | jelly-home | might be wrong about that, but it looked like fuse to me |
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| 13:45.16 | jelly-home | lemme get my ubuntu netbook |
| 13:45.31 | danielig_ | erawfish_: the eCryptfs files are maybe just created by the photorec tool |
| 13:45.36 | dark-sun | ha ha! it worked |
| 13:45.53 | Bushmills | what - reading? |
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| 13:46.57 | erawfish_ | if it creates specific files, it's a big hint they can be used somehow. otherwise it would be a generic .bin extension or such |
| 13:47.02 | dark-sun | Bushmills: yup! I set "available for all users..." and it just didn't save the password |
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| 13:47.32 | danielig_ | it also "found" some .png and .jpgs however none I was able to open. |
| 13:47.37 | dark-sun | I tried to set the password a couple of times... but no effect came out |
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| 13:48.21 | dark-sun | I added my users to the network group (or something like that) |
| 13:48.37 | dark-sun | then I created another vpn connection |
| 13:48.47 | dark-sun | without "available for all users" |
| 13:48.52 | dark-sun | and it did worked |
| 13:49.07 | dark-sun | :) |
| 13:49.11 | jelly-home | danielig_: you WILL need to set up ecryptfs to get actual data out of those .ecryptfs directories and ECRYPTFS* files. |
| 13:49.27 | jelly-home | danielig_: so ask the people that know something about that. |
| 13:49.33 | smartielucas | hey everyone, I'm currently installing a debian server and created a disk array (external disks) with mdadm. first the array dissapeared after rebooting, but after editing the mdadm.conf file the array-device turned up in /dev. now I want the volume to auto-mount. I tried doing this by adding a line to the /etc/fstab file but no luck there. does anyone have got some advice or tips? |
| 13:50.28 | jelly-home | yeah, it's not fuse |
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| 13:55.21 | jelly-home | smartielucas: Debian 6? pastebin your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, /etc/fstab, output of blkid command, and current contents of /proc/mdstat |
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| 13:56.58 | smartielucas | debian 6.0.3 I think. |
| 13:57.27 | smartielucas | # /etc/fstab: static file system information. |
| 13:57.28 | smartielucas | # |
| 13:57.28 | smartielucas | # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a |
| 13:57.28 | smartielucas | # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices |
| 13:57.28 | smartielucas | # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). |
| 13:57.28 | smartielucas | # |
| 13:57.28 | smartielucas | # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> |
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| 13:57.48 | Iridos | !next |
| 13:57.48 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 13:57.54 | Mogget | haha |
| 13:59.26 | danielig_ | thanks jelly-home erawfish_ Bushmills et. al. see you later, I am off to OFTC server channel #ecryptfs |
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| 14:01.06 | smartielucas | sporry for the paste |
| 14:01.10 | jelly-home | !tell smartielucas about paste |
| 14:01.22 | smartielucas | . /etc/fstab: static file system information. |
| 14:01.22 | smartielucas | # |
| 14:01.22 | smartielucas | # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a |
| 14:01.22 | smartielucas | # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices |
| 14:01.22 | smartielucas | # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). |
| 14:01.22 | smartielucas | # |
| 14:01.22 | smartielucas | # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> |
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| 14:01.39 | boudiccas | you dont learn do you? |
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| 14:03.33 | Iridos | it's a learning curve |
| 14:03.40 | Iridos | and he's more of a straight thinker? |
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| 14:04.07 | smartielucas | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/503279/ (fstab file) |
| 14:04.11 | Iridos | \o/ |
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| 14:05.28 | smartielucas | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/503282/ (mdadm.conf) |
| 14:05.48 | Iridos | actually I came in too late for the question, too, so perhaps I shut up a bit |
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| 14:06.28 | BlipInTheData | Iridos, smartielucas> hey everyone, I'm currently installing a debian server and created a disk array (external disks) with mdadm. first the array dissapeared after rebooting, but after editing the mdadm.conf file the array-device turned up in /dev. now I want the volume to auto-mount. I tried doing this by adding a line to the /etc/fstab file but no luck there. does anyone have got some advice or tips? |
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| 14:06.33 | BlipInTheData | That was the question. |
| 14:06.44 | jelly-home | smartielucas: your fstab lines are not complete in that paste, there's stuff missing |
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| 14:07.25 | jelly-home | smartielucas: looks are if you pasted what your editor shows instead of the actual file |
| 14:07.34 | jelly-home | s/are/as/ |
| 14:08.18 | jelly-home | smartielucas: in addition, I'm not sure "auto" is a legal value for the <options> field in fstab |
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| 14:09.44 | smartielucas | jelly-home: I used defaults before, but that didnt work either |
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| 14:13.07 | jelly-home | smartielucas: waiting for the rest of the data |
| 14:13.56 | llutz | jelly-home: "auto" is valid but needless since default |
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| 14:14.30 | BlipInTheData | jelly-home, he is on it, just some more time :) |
| 14:14.49 | jelly-home | BlipInTheData: how can you tell! |
| 14:15.03 | BlipInTheData | Special powers >.> |
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| 14:15.19 | smartielucas | 9th sense?:P |
| 14:15.24 | BlipInTheData | Exactly. |
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| 14:16.43 | Iridos | BlipInTheData, ha, thanks :) |
| 14:16.57 | Iridos | jelly-home, are you saying you're not psychic like everyone else in here? |
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| 14:20.09 | jelly-home | Iridos: my psychic powers do not usually work over irc |
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| 14:20.35 | Iridos | jelly-home, time to upgrade! |
| 14:20.54 | smartielucas | jelly-home: fstab file => http://paste.debian.net/142908/ |
| 14:21.18 | smartielucas | jelly-home: mdadm.conf file => http://paste.debian.net/142909/ |
| 14:22.01 | Iridos | actually... I just wonder about UUID and raid |
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| 14:23.30 | jelly-home | Iridos: md array uuid does not have any relation to filesystem uuid |
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| 14:24.18 | Iridos | ok |
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| 14:26.51 | Iridos | err, not what I meant. he's mounting with uuid |
| 14:27.09 | smartielucas | I've tried mounting with the lines above as well |
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| 14:27.20 | smartielucas | they are in comment now |
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| 14:27.37 | Iridos | and that's the FS UUID |
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| 14:28.06 | jelly-home | still waiting for blkid and /proc/mdstat ... |
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| 14:29.04 | Iridos | so if you have raid1 and specify uuid... |
| 14:29.12 | smartielucas | I've got raid5 |
| 14:29.13 | Iridos | there's 3 devices with an FS that have that uuid? |
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| 14:29.55 | smartielucas | where can i find blkid? |
| 14:30.00 | jelly-home | Iridos: nope |
| 14:30.25 | jelly-home | smartielucas: it's a command in root's PATH, /sbin/blkid |
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| 14:30.37 | smartielucas | do you want the file or..? |
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| 14:32.03 | smartielucas | jelly-home: blkid => http://paste.debian.net/142912/ |
| 14:32.27 | jelly-home | [14:55] <jelly-home> smartielucas: Debian 6? pastebin your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, /etc/fstab, output of blkid command, and current contents of /proc/mdstat |
| 14:32.59 | smartielucas | ah sorry |
| 14:33.04 | smartielucas | thats the above |
| 14:33.13 | smartielucas | and mdstat => http://paste.debian.net/142913/ |
| 14:33.59 | jelly-home | smartielucas: well things look decent |
| 14:34.12 | jelly-home | except for fstab |
| 14:34.37 | jelly-home | s/autoauto/ext3 defaults/ |
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| 14:35.47 | smartielucas | ./dev/md1 /media/storage s/auto auto/ext3 defaults 0 0 ? |
| 14:36.17 | jelly-home | smartielucas: also, replace /dev/md/1 with /dev/md1 in mdadm.conf if you want the device to be called like that. You may also comment out or wipe the name= part |
| 14:36.35 | Iridos | translates as "replace 'auto auto' with 'ext3 defaults'" |
| 14:36.43 | jelly-home | smartielucas: UUID=... /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0 |
| 14:36.55 | Iridos | (the 1st one) |
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| 14:37.40 | jelly-home | UUID=c3811032-4ce4-416a-be59-93182d75c613 /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0 |
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| 14:44.23 | superstraw | ± |
| 14:44.51 | smartielucas | jelly-home thanks but it didnt work... |
| 14:45.05 | smartielucas | also tried with /dev/md1 instead of UUID |
| 14:45.59 | Iridos | what error do you get when you try to mount |
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| 14:46.35 | jelly-home | smartielucas: does "mount /media/storage" work when invoked manually after the boot? |
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| 14:46.59 | smartielucas | not anymore, now the volume dissapeared again |
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| 14:49.39 | smartielucas | device is back, "mount /dev/md1 /media/storage" works fine |
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| 14:50.56 | dark-sun | hi guys. |
| 14:51.28 | dark-sun | any idea why my firefox 7 is so ugly? (buttons specially) http://imagebin.org/182609 |
| 14:51.47 | synmuffin | o.O how would i boot a debian with the LSI MegaRaid SAS driver? |
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| 14:52.41 | synmuffin | crap i missed "cd" ^ |
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| 14:53.01 | themill | dark-sun: is this debian? what desktop environment are you using? |
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| 14:53.28 | dark-sun | gnome |
| 14:53.28 | dark-sun | 2.30 |
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| 14:56.34 | Iridos | smartielucas, so your problem was/is that the device is not available on boot |
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| 15:01.54 | no_gravity | Hello! Im doing "rdiff-backup user@some.host:/some/dir /some/dir" and rdiff-backup tells me "Fatal Error: Source directory user@some.host/some/dir does not exist". Without even asking me for the ssh password. Do you have an idea whats going on? |
| 15:02.06 | iman | sorry about unrelated question, do you know trust site to search domain ? |
| 15:02.36 | smartielucas | not at first, but before I asked my question here i fixed that problem by editing the mdamd.conf file. the reason the device dissapeared now was because of a typing mistake |
| 15:03.30 | abrotman | iman: search domains for what? |
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| 15:03.57 | iman | abrotman, search free domain to get it |
| 15:04.12 | jelly-home | smartielucas: that's not what I asked, though. Does "mount /media/storage" work without specifying the device? That would confirm fstab syntax to be valid |
| 15:04.21 | abrotman | iman: google "register free domain" .. good luck |
| 15:04.34 | somiaj | no_gravity: it really seems like you missed the colon. |
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| 15:04.35 | erawfish_ | iman: "man whois" |
| 15:04.55 | no_gravity | somiaj: yeah, apperently rdiff-backup uses ::, not :! |
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| 15:05.11 | iman | abrotman, i know it, but many huge of site is not safe to search domain, you know |
| 15:05.24 | erawfish_ | iman: please read the manpage of whois |
| 15:05.31 | abrotman | well, considering it's offtopic .. i think we're done here |
| 15:05.43 | iman | erawfish_, so appreciate man |
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| 15:09.17 | smartielucas | jelly-home: That does not work, the error reads: the device /dev/md1 does not exist |
| 15:09.44 | jelly-home | smartielucas: have you been rebooting in the meantime? |
| 15:09.49 | smartielucas | yes |
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| 15:10.20 | jelly-home | it would help not to change the parameters of your question while getting help |
| 15:11.15 | jelly-home | smartielucas: pastebin your dmesg output (or better, contents of /var/log/kern.log from this reboot) and current /proc/mdstat, then |
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| 15:13.37 | heroxbd | hi, what is the recommended way to install a gcc-4.2 (to be used by distccd) on wheezy? |
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| 15:14.22 | jelly-home | smartielucas: you'll want to figure out why the array fails to be brought up at boot |
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| 15:14.31 | abrotman | judd: versions gcc-4.2 |
| 15:14.33 | judd | Package: gcc-4.2 on i386 -- lenny: 4.2.4-6 |
| 15:14.43 | abrotman | heroxbd: you really want gcc that old? |
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| 15:19.09 | gele | are there any decent mail clients in debian 6.0 that don't require any GUI libraries other than the gnome ones, don't use as much memory as evolution and doesn't crash as often? |
| 15:19.20 | SupaYoshi | anyone experience with proftpd? |
| 15:19.33 | SupaYoshi | trying to limit access to home, but not working |
| 15:20.32 | heroxbd | abrotman: yeah. cuz the distcc client is a CentOS around 2006 |
| 15:20.43 | SupaYoshi | nvm got it working xD rofl! |
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| 15:23.03 | somiaj | gele: mutt? |
| 15:23.10 | smartielucas | jelle-home: the array is after another reboot online. now when I use the command "mount /media/storage" I'm getting the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /devmd1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog-try dmesg | tail or so |
| 15:23.24 | gary_golden | vboxnet0 interface is not created at startup. Anybody knows why? |
| 15:23.37 | gele | somiaj: i'm considering it... i like built-in image viewing though. |
| 15:24.14 | somiaj | gele: icedove? (or just iceape if you prefer the whole mozilla suit) as another option |
| 15:24.17 | gele | i wouldn't mind evolution's bloat if it wasn't for the fact that it crashes randomly and corrupts data every now and then. |
| 15:24.41 | gele | somiaj: thank, i'll have a look. |
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| 15:25.10 | somiaj | gele: that is just thunderbird or mozilla seamonkey rebranded for debian. (: |
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| 15:28.33 | gele | i don't understand why all decent mail clients have to be so huge. |
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| 15:28.57 | setre | can someone help me set up MPD on my debian install? |
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| 15:29.50 | setre | gele: because all the pros use mutt or pine |
| 15:30.04 | mocra | setre, aptitude install mpd |
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| 15:30.24 | abrotman | heroxbd: i guess you could try to just install the lenny packages .. not sure how well that'll work |
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| 15:30.30 | abrotman | gele: alpine! |
| 15:30.55 | abrotman | gele: did you look at balsa? it used to be pretty good .. think like Outlook Express |
| 15:31.16 | setre | "problem opening audio device" |
| 15:31.16 | gele | abrotman: haven't tried those yet, thanks |
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| 15:31.34 | abrotman | gele: alpine is a TUI .. balsa is gnome-ish .. if that matters |
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| 15:31.39 | setre | I have done what I can to follow instruction to set it up with pulse audio |
| 15:31.53 | setre | but I can't seem to get it to work |
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| 15:33.53 | gele | abrotman: not for the mail reading itself, but i like integration with image viewers and the notification area. |
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| 15:36.40 | gele | uhoh, now duplicity claims that it doesn't have a copy of ~/.evolution in the backup archive. |
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| 15:36.55 | smartielucas | jelle-home: http://paste.debian.net/142928/ this is the result of the dmesg | tail command |
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| 15:38.37 | gele | oh, right. the path to restore needs to be relative to the backed up directory. |
| 15:39.27 | abrotman | gele: well, balsa would have that .. alpine would not |
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| 15:42.20 | wald0 | i need to install a pretty complete desktop environment, i dont know if to choice squeeze or testing, does testing has more featured (worth) in the updated applications than squeeze ? does testing has not some applications that exists in squeeze so i will miss them ? |
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| 15:43.19 | tharkun | wald0: What are your actual needs for the desktop. Act accordingly |
| 15:43.41 | gele | wald0: i'm using squeeze, i don't really miss anything desktop-wise. |
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| 15:44.26 | somiaj | wald0: do you want to use your desktop or fix it? |
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| 15:45.11 | wald0 | well, the question will be: is not squeeze too much outdated for some things like features, browser, etc ? |
| 15:45.20 | somiaj | wald0: squeeze has almost everythign one would need (unless you have some really new hardware). Testing has the newer gnome3 and other updated packages, but you may find your self spending more time fixing your desktop then actually using it for a feature you don't really need. |
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| 15:46.12 | wald0 | yeah.. thats the problem |
| 15:46.14 | somiaj | wald0: yes squeeze has a browser that is modern enough for most webpages. You can use backports if you really need something newer. Most don't |
| 15:46.29 | tharkun | wald0: Depends on what exctly you mean. I can live with squeeze and not miss anything. YMMV |
| 15:46.38 | gele | wald0: squeeze isn't even a year old. |
| 15:46.44 | wald0 | about new hardware, could be a problem to just use the kernel from testing in a squeeze ? |
| 15:47.10 | tharkun | wald0: that is the usual solution |
| 15:47.31 | tharkun | actually the bpo kernel is the one that is used |
| 15:47.43 | wald0 | bpo ? |
| 15:48.06 | tharkun | !bpo |
| 15:48.07 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <bdo key> <backports-sloppy> <bdo xorg>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 15:48.08 | purpleoptic | I run testing it still have gnome 2.30 |
| 15:48.09 | somiaj | wald0: do NOT install testing binaries on squeeze, you will regret it. Use backports. If for somereason you need a newer kernel the 2.6.39 kernel form backporst works just fine. Though most hardware runs fine on squeeze. This outdated is just people think if you dont' have alpha buggy software in linux it won't do what you want is false. |
| 15:49.11 | tharkun | wald0: if you run into trouble running squeeze you can allways come back here and ask for help there are a lot of competent people that can lend you a hand. |
| 15:49.18 | wald0 | and SID stills that much unstable like 4 years ago ? |
| 15:49.24 | tharkun | !sid |
| 15:49.25 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
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| 15:50.14 | somiaj | wald0: if you have never used debian before, don't use testing or sid. Things break (testing and sid have both had major problems this last few months due to gnome3, xorg abi upgrade and many more bugs) |
| 15:50.53 | somiaj | wald0: squeeze will suit you just fine. If you want to use the latest buggy testing software, use testing. More likely than not you don't need any of the features and all you do is give yourself problems. |
| 15:51.00 | wald0 | i used it 2-3 years ago, i wonder how much work will require to use testing instead of squeeze |
| 15:51.22 | wald0 | ok |
| 15:51.54 | tharkun | wald0: There are some major changes coming with testing. It is a bumpy unpleasent ride for the moment. For the sake of your productivity better stick with Squeze for the next couple of months |
| 15:52.09 | somiaj | wald0: a good number of the problems people have with debian in here is because they want to run testing (sually for one package or some silly reason) and mix things, or don't know how to use the bts and manage debian to fix the bugs they encounter with testing. |
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| 16:00.37 | erawfish_ | wald0: if you need a newer browser: mozilla.debian.net and you can get the newest iceweasel/firefox for example. Unless you really really need gnome3 core features, then testing is not worth it for the desktop. squeeze+backports is a much better option then |
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| 16:01.04 | Tekk_ | how do I authorize a user via consolekit? |
| 16:01.13 | Tekk_ | specifically to install software via softfware-center |
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| 16:01.37 | dvs | Tekk_: sudo? |
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| 16:01.49 | erawfish_ | software-center, isn't that ubuntu? |
| 16:02.09 | synmuffin | is there perhaps a boot parameter i'm missing to get this LSI MegaRaid to boot??!? |
| 16:02.14 | Tekk_ | erawfish_: it was ported and now it replaced gnome-app-install in squeeze |
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| 16:03.19 | erawfish_ | synmuffin: what's the pciid? |
| 16:03.57 | Korlanthius | Why is it ... when I try to fill dependencies for certain packages.. and it doesn't end up working, then when I try to "fix" the broken dependencies - apt-get want's to delete EVERYTHING.. |
| 16:04.01 | synmuffin | momnent need to reboot to find that |
| 16:04.12 | Korlanthius | Literally everything |
| 16:04.17 | Korlanthius | from acpi to Xorg |
| 16:04.45 | erawfish_ | !tell Korlanthius about bat |
| 16:04.49 | somiaj | Korlanthius: what version of debian are you using? Do you have any unoffical sources in your sources.list? |
| 16:05.10 | erawfish_ | Korlanthius: it really helps if you tell what "certain packages" are. name and exact version number and source repository |
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| 16:05.11 | somiaj | Korlanthius: care to provide us with a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:05.38 | somiaj | Korlanthius: also apt-cache policy <said package> is useful info to paste for us at paste.debian.net |
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| 16:07.14 | Korlanthius | Ok I'm running Lenny - I was trying to install google-chrome which needed like... 12 dependencies all lib files |
| 16:07.32 | Korlanthius | I was installing it from the google deb |
| 16:07.41 | Korlanthius | and my repos are.. |
| 16:07.55 | bzed | Korlanthius: ugrade to squeeze. |
| 16:08.02 | somiaj | where did you get this google-chrome? Was it from lenny or some online source? |
| 16:08.19 | Korlanthius | Chrome was from the chrome website - the debian/ubuntu .deb file |
| 16:08.23 | Tekk_ | somiaj: I don't even think lenny HAS squeeze |
| 16:08.27 | Tekk_ | err |
| 16:08.28 | Tekk_ | chrome* |
| 16:08.33 | bzed | :D |
| 16:08.40 | Tekk_ | I second bzed |
| 16:08.50 | somiaj | Tekk_: yea which is probabaly where is problem is, installing a package not built for lenny on lenny. |
| 16:09.03 | Korlanthius | I have both ftp.de and us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 16:09.06 | bzed | !tell Korlanthius about lenny->squeeze |
| 16:09.15 | Tekk_ | somiaj: though on the bright side you can install lucid packages in squeeze with no problem :D |
| 16:09.24 | Tekk_ | which lets me have up-to-date chromium |
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| 16:09.43 | bzed | Korlanthius: make sure you read the release notes before upgrading. |
| 16:09.47 | Korlanthius | Since this is a pretty fresh install I might just do a total new fresh install of squeeze |
| 16:10.15 | Korlanthius | Since I don't have any new things on this box |
| 16:11.42 | synmuffin | erawfish_ : all i can find id the pci bus no. 00 and device no. 1f |
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| 16:13.57 | architek | so if people like me wonder why volume applet in gnome3 doesn't work. its because it needs pulseaudio(although it, gnome-s-hell does not depend on it but gnome-core does). either pulse or the gnome3 applet.. |
| 16:14.11 | erawfish_ | synmuffin: which OS do you run where you can access the card? |
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| 16:18.01 | synmuffin | erawfish_ currently none, but i would like to install squeeze they are rackmount servers with nonthing on them at the moment |
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| 16:19.32 | somiaj | architek: sounds like #debian-next on irc.debian.org, check the bts as well. this isn't the best place for Testing/Sid support |
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| 16:19.56 | erawfish_ | synmuffin: some whay or other you must be able to boot a OS somehow or you cannot install anything ever on it. so which OS can you start? |
| 16:19.59 | synmuffin | bscially what's happening is I booted the server and entered the raid config by hitting ctrl+m then setup a Raid 1 with the two drives that are in the server, then i poped in my squeeze usb pen and booted tried to install but then i get to the partition disk part it all falls down saying something about Raid Device (read-only) and blah blah etc... |
| 16:20.17 | erawfish_ | "< synmuffin> bscially what's happening is I booted the server " so you booted. what OS |
| 16:21.08 | synmuffin | it will boot squeeze from my usb pen but won't let me access the raid to isntall |
| 16:21.11 | synmuffin | install even |
| 16:21.34 | erawfish_ | run lspci in squeeze then |
| 16:21.54 | synmuffin | k give me a sec |
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| 16:23.35 | purpleoptic | people keep saying gnome 3 is in testing I cant find any reference to it anywhere |
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| 16:24.59 | architek | purpleoptic: its in unstable only |
| 16:25.07 | purpleoptic | ah thought so |
| 16:25.10 | purpleoptic | thanks :) |
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| 16:26.22 | erawfish_ | !tell purpleoptic about gnome3 |
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| 16:27.12 | purpleoptic | I know it's not there I just searched the repos |
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| 16:27.23 | purpleoptic | I've heard rumblings it was in there tis all |
| 16:27.41 | synmuffin | erawfish_ the only thing i can find in lspci is Intel ICH10R Raid Bus contoller |
| 16:29.02 | somiaj | purpleoptic: parts have slowly made it into wheezy, but nothing core. for example gnome-terminal is 3.0 in wheezy. But yes the parts people mean aren't there yet. |
| 16:30.03 | purpleoptic | thought so |
| 16:31.15 | jhutchins_lt | !gnome3 |
| 16:31.16 | dpkg | GNOME 3 is the new and not yet complete version of the GNOME desktop environment. Bits of it are starting to work their way into Debian unstable at the moment and wheezy will release with it. See http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html for details. Also ask me about <install gnome>, <gnome-shell>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/04/msg00111.html |
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| 16:31.46 | jhutchins_lt | purpleoptic: It isn't complete yet. The distros that are pretending to offer it are offering gnome2 with bits and pieces of 3 for show. |
| 16:32.13 | synmuffin | erawfish_ fakeraid? |
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| 16:34.17 | purpleoptic | tbh I'm happy with gnome 2 :P |
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| 16:36.47 | erawfish_ | synmuffin: yes that is fakeraid. but you said something about megaraid? |
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| 16:37.24 | erawfish_ | jhutchins_lt: what is gnome foundation then calling gnome 3 or even gnome 3.2? |
| 16:38.00 | jhutchins_lt | erawfish_: The project that's developing the as yet incomplete new release. |
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| 16:38.30 | jhutchins_lt | Never having run gnome seriously, I don't know how essential the still-missing components are. |
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| 16:39.58 | erawfish_ | hasn't someone told them proper naming yet? Gnome 3 Beta X would be appropriate but not gnome 3.0 :( |
| 16:40.19 | synmuffin | yah it yammers on about megaraid stuff on boot |
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| 16:40.32 | synmuffin | and you enter the megaraid setup etc.. tc.. |
| 16:40.51 | erawfish_ | synmuffin: please pastebin the full lspci -nn output |
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| 16:41.15 | synmuffin | kk |
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| 16:43.38 | synmuffin | its gotta be fakeraid LSI MegaRaid Software Raid BIOS Version: A.09 then LSI SATA Raid found at PCI Bus No: 00 Dev: No. 1F |
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| 16:44.05 | Na_Klar | there is surely a way to empty a file (set to 0 bytes), instead of deleting it and touching it. (which works, but I also have to chown after that, which makes the process anoying ^^) |
| 16:44.07 | erawfish_ | synmuffin: even fakeraid has PCI devices. |
| 16:44.22 | synmuffin | hrmmm |
| 16:44.29 | synmuffin | kk let me set that output brb |
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| 16:44.45 | blubberdiblub | Na_Klar, try "truncate" |
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| 16:45.27 | Na_Klar | blubberdiblub, yea .. self-evident :P |
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| 16:52.39 | markit | hi, I've dd to a image file a usb pen where I've installed a distro, that has 3 partitions. Then I dd back to a usb hard disk, but the result is not as expected |
| 16:53.05 | markit | i.e. first partiton starts 8MB from the beginning of the disk, and gparted says that file systems inside partitions are not recognized |
| 16:53.11 | markit | what can I have done wrong? |
| 16:53.29 | kernelwut | markit: did you do it on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 ? |
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| 16:54.06 | markit | kernelwut: I did dd if=/dev/sdb of=image.raw |
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| 16:54.34 | markit | then I tried with kvm to boot the image.raw, and works perfectly, and gparted inside it shows perfect partitions |
| 16:54.55 | markit | is the dd if=image.raw of=/dev/sdb that produces the "mess" |
| 16:55.09 | markit | am wondering if different hd geometry can be the problem |
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| 16:55.19 | markit | but since I tried also with an identical usb pen, I'm puzzled |
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| 16:55.40 | markit | that's a real problem for me, I have to "clone" installations to some teachers of the school |
| 16:56.00 | markit | if I have to install from scratch for each of them I'm in troubles (takes too long to install and configure) |
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| 16:57.22 | synmuffin | erawfish_ did that link help? |
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| 16:59.55 | erawfish_ | !tell synmuffin about pm |
| 17:00.11 | erawfish_ | and the linux kernel doesn't see a megaraid device anywhere |
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| 17:01.25 | synmuffin | o.O |
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| 17:04.56 | Datz | does anyone use webalizer with apache2 here? |
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| 17:05.13 | lzskiss | yo |
| 17:05.15 | Datz | that can explain the problem with kb recorded here: http://home.datzfunk.net/webalizer/home.datzfunk.net/usage_201111.html#TOPSITES |
| 17:05.34 | Datz | all the sudden there is a problem with this month, and I can't see what happened |
| 17:05.44 | lzskiss | can i compile on squeeze to the lenny version? |
| 17:05.56 | lzskiss | any method exist for this ? |
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| 17:06.24 | zwerg | Hello there. |
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| 17:06.31 | Datz | why.. hello :) |
| 17:06.38 | Datz | lzskiss: compile software? |
| 17:06.47 | lzskiss | datz: yep |
| 17:07.13 | lzskiss | im on the squeeze but i wanna be put to the server that version is lenny |
| 17:07.15 | zwerg | Anyone else got sound problems after a recent dist-upgrade? Sound software seems to work but there's no output. |
| 17:07.18 | Datz | lzskiss: sure you can compile software on sqeeze that you could with lenny |
| 17:07.20 | babilen | lzskiss: What are you trying to do? Do you want to compile a lenny package on squeeze? |
| 17:07.30 | lzskiss | babilen, yep |
| 17:07.35 | lzskiss | if possible |
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| 17:07.50 | babilen | lzskiss: Why? And yes, that is possible, but shouldn't be necessary in most cases. |
| 17:08.12 | DarsVaeda | hi I'm on debian testing, I use wcid to setup my wireless connection to automatically connect but after startup the network shows up as "\X0\X0\X0\X0\X0\X0" and when it tries to connect it says "bad passwort" - I have to manually search for the network name and then connect to get it to work, it is a hidden network - any suggestions? |
| 17:08.39 | lzskiss | babilen, because i havent access to the server |
| 17:08.40 | lzskiss | now |
| 17:08.56 | lzskiss | but i will send to the admin who testing |
| 17:09.04 | Datz | lzskiss: there is just a software package that you want to install? |
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| 17:09.07 | lzskiss | if working then he will be installing |
| 17:09.18 | lzskiss | Datz: more |
| 17:09.19 | babilen | DarsVaeda: Does it happen with plain wpa-supplicant or network-manager as well? If so: Use one of those. wicd is unfortunately not developed any longer and it might be a bug in it. Have you checked Debian's and wicd's bug tracker? |
| 17:09.27 | Datz | lzskiss: search for it with the version that you are using |
| 17:09.32 | babilen | lzskiss: Install what? |
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| 17:10.06 | Datz | lzskiss: see if you can find it: aptitude search packagename |
| 17:10.14 | DarsVaeda | babilen: oh I did not know that, it's wpa2 encrypted, I think with wpa-supplicant |
| 17:10.18 | lzskiss | babilen: node.js+npm+packages+preconfigured app directory |
| 17:10.25 | DarsVaeda | babilen: is there any other manager you can recommend? |
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| 17:10.53 | babilen | DarsVaeda: I would either recommend plain wpa-supplicant (in roaming mode if necessary) or network-manager |
| 17:10.59 | lzskiss | Datz: yep i know what is the packagemanager:) |
| 17:11.15 | Datz | hehe |
| 17:11.19 | lzskiss | the admin would like one package |
| 17:11.29 | lzskiss | one.deb |
| 17:11.33 | lzskiss | right?:) |
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| 17:11.43 | Datz | ah |
| 17:11.56 | babilen | lzskiss: node.js is in squeeze, npm *only* in sid (was it ever in lenny?) and I don't know what your preconfigured app directory is. |
| 17:12.01 | Datz | well, you'd have to make sure they right version of dependencies are isntalled I suppose |
| 17:12.08 | DarsVaeda | babilen: I'll give network-manager a try, thanks :) |
| 17:12.36 | SupaYoshi | is java RPM build in Debian? |
| 17:12.42 | SupaYoshi | x64 |
| 17:12.45 | lzskiss | babilen: i developing this app |
| 17:12.45 | babilen | lzskiss: Oh, nodejs is also only in sid -- I doubt those packages were ever in lenny. |
| 17:13.13 | lzskiss | babilen, this is not an apt-get install question:D |
| 17:13.14 | babilen | lzskiss: Could it be that you want to backport those *to* lenny not "forwardport" them *from* lenny? |
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| 17:13.47 | lzskiss | babilen, yep backport is a good word for this |
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| 17:14.09 | lzskiss | but im never do backport |
| 17:14.19 | lzskiss | what is the right way? |
| 17:14.58 | babilen | lzskiss: Why do you target lenny? Both nodejs and npm can be backported to squeeze. (no idea about lenny) For nodejs you also need to backport libv8-dev. You can then package your own application independently and depend on both nodejs and npm (?) |
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| 17:15.04 | babilen | !tell lzskiss -about ssb |
| 17:15.32 | lzskiss | babilen: the server running lenny |
| 17:15.48 | lzskiss | and i have no idea when they wanna upgrade |
| 17:15.50 | babilen | SupaYoshi: Could you rephrase that question please? If you want to install java ask our bot about <install java> (/msg dpkg install java) |
| 17:17.06 | babilen | lzskiss: Well, I can't tell you how easy it is to backport nodejs and npm to lenny. It's not hard for squeeze, but might be considerably harder for lenny. Lenny will also not be supported anymore after Feb. 2012, so it would be a very good idea to come up with an upgrade strategy. |
| 17:17.13 | SupaYoshi | :P i wanna install java 64 bit, but the guides are saying dont USE RPM for Ubuntu, but if this is Debian maybe I should? |
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| 17:17.44 | babilen | SupaYoshi: Just install openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-6-jdk (whatever you need) |
| 17:18.03 | SupaYoshi | I need to run a minecraft server :P |
| 17:18.05 | SupaYoshi | 64bit |
| 17:18.10 | babilen | SupaYoshi: I also have the impression that the guides you have been reading are a bit, well, suboptimal |
| 17:18.15 | SupaYoshi | jre :P thnx |
| 17:18.28 | SupaYoshi | True true :p lol |
| 17:18.36 | SupaYoshi | im just googling |
| 17:19.00 | babilen | SupaYoshi: It *might* be that minecraft *needs* Sun's propriatary java ... In that case install sun-java6-{jre,jdk}, you can find that in non-free |
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| 17:23.38 | SupaYoshi | https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java i had this guide :P |
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| 17:24.30 | babilen | SupaYoshi: *shrug* |
| 17:25.11 | architek | isn't sun-java6-* supposed to be removed? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=646524 |
| 17:25.24 | babilen | architek: That already happened. |
| 17:25.49 | erawfish_ | architek: but squeeze release happened before that so it's still there |
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| 17:27.27 | architek | I was fooled by packages.debian.org which is not yet synced |
| 17:28.28 | architek | http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/sun-java6-jre/download |
| 17:28.42 | markit | kernelwut: "Using dd you can create backups of an entire harddisk or just a parts of it. This is also usefull to quickly copy installations to similar machines. It will only work on disks that are exactly the same in disk geometry, meaning they have to the same model from the same brand." |
| 17:29.00 | markit | from http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm |
| 17:29.10 | kernelwut | thats obvious |
| 17:29.11 | kernelwut | but |
| 17:29.14 | markit | but really is NO mentioned in many articles I've read |
| 17:29.19 | kernelwut | did you do it on the disk device, or on a partition? |
| 17:29.27 | SupaYoshi | can you let java update automaticly? with cronjob? |
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| 17:29.29 | kernelwut | ive restored / imaged contless disk that way. |
| 17:29.30 | markit | DISK device /dev/sdb |
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| 17:30.25 | kernelwut | would need the exact command line to tell what might be wrong. |
| 17:30.36 | markit | so my only hope it use Clonezilla |
| 17:31.04 | markit | kernelwut: dd if=usb_kub11_04_scuola_noprogdida.raw of=/dev/sdb bs=4k |
| 17:31.28 | kernelwut | and the opposite? |
| 17:31.36 | kernelwut | thats for writing to the usb stick |
| 17:31.37 | markit | and the opposite, without bs=4k, when I generated the image from the usb pen to the file image |
| 17:31.51 | kernelwut | bizzare. |
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| 17:31.55 | kernelwut | should work as expected. |
| 17:32.26 | markit | "as expected" is should NOT work when I restore in usb hd |
| 17:32.43 | markit | only should work in an usb stick with same brand/capacity |
| 17:32.49 | markit | correct? |
| 17:33.21 | kernelwut | yep |
| 17:33.24 | kernelwut | very correct. |
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| 17:33.34 | kernelwut | otherwise you result in a borked partition map or so |
| 17:33.39 | kernelwut | thatd be my guess. |
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| 17:35.19 | lzskiss | babilen, thx for you for the answers |
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| 17:35.31 | markit | but a) around you find a lot of articles about how cool is dd and without mentioning the hd "same geometry" problem |
| 17:35.51 | lzskiss | babilen, what do u think publish on the github the bacported packages? |
| 17:36.07 | markit | b) I've done with the second usb pen I bought (I bought 2 identical one) and did not worked (8MB on top, before first partition) |
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| 17:37.24 | babilen | lzskiss: I have no idea how this is handled within the node.js community. You might want to discuss a good strategy in #node.js |
| 17:39.12 | lzskiss | babilen, okz i will be asking them |
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| 17:44.33 | Achylles_ | Hi. I am thinking of changing my CRT monitor to a LCD one. Will Debian recognize the new one. I have nvidia and compiz running here. Or I have to change X by hand? |
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| 17:47.42 | erawfish_ | Achylles_: it will recognize it. you might have to run nvidia-settings to change resolution |
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| 17:49.03 | Achylles_ | erawfish_, Ok. Many thx for the answer. |
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| 17:56.44 | DarsVaeda | uhm I'm really lost with my wireless wpa2 network configuration, I use Wicd till now but that does not work with automatic connection - what else could I use? but! I'm using xfce so no gnome like network-manager |
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| 18:01.37 | erawfish_ | DarsVaeda: wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 18:01.47 | DarsVaeda | I read this 100 times ^^ |
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| 18:02.39 | erawfish_ | and? what's wrong with http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK ? |
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| 18:02.59 | erawfish_ | and why doesn't wicd work with automatic connection? |
| 18:03.20 | blubberdiblub | DarsVaeda, you can very well use the gnome network-manger under xfce |
| 18:03.42 | DarsVaeda | the gui too without tons of depended packages? |
| 18:04.01 | blubberdiblub | DarsVaeda, well, there may be some dependencies, that's true ... |
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| 18:05.02 | DarsVaeda | hmm hmm |
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| 18:14.12 | jhutchins_lt | I thought there was a console control applet for n-m. |
| 18:15.15 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg info cnetworkmanager |
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| 18:17.55 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions cnetworkmanager |
| 18:17.57 | judd | Package: cnetworkmanager on i386 -- squeeze: 0.21.1-1.1 |
| 18:18.08 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg info cnetworkmanager |
| 18:18.25 | jhutchins_lt | ,info cnetworkmanager |
| 18:18.27 | judd | Package cnetworkmanager (net, extra) in squeeze/i386: A command-line client for NetworkManager. Version: 0.21.1-1.1; Size: 25.3k; Installed: 208k; Homepage: http://vidner.net/martin/software/cnetworkmanager/ |
| 18:18.49 | corretico_ | hi |
| 18:18.57 | corretico_ | some with raid knowledge? |
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| 18:19.06 | corretico_ | I have 4hdd |
| 18:19.28 | corretico_ | I want to make a RAID-1 with two disk, and another RAID-1 with the others |
| 18:19.50 | corretico_ | later, I want to make a RAID-0 with the two RAID created before |
| 18:19.55 | jhutchins_lt | !raid |
| 18:19.56 | dpkg | i heard raid is Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. See RAID{0-5}, <software raid>, <fakeraid>, <megaraid>, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels , <raid-resizing> |
| 18:20.01 | corretico_ | Is possible with Debian |
| 18:20.24 | jhutchins_lt | corretico_: It's not really a matter of Debian or not, it's Linux and how you set up raid. |
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| 18:20.59 | jhutchins_lt | corretico_: For further info on the items above, /msg dpkg software raid (for example). |
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| 18:21.54 | corretico_ | I know that RAIDs works fine with Linux or Debian, but I dont now howto do with RAID-1/0 |
| 18:22.37 | kernelwut | corretico_: if you want software raid, mdadm does that |
| 18:22.51 | kernelwut | otherwise you need hw specific tools |
| 18:22.53 | jhutchins_lt | I think what he needs is a guide on how to do it. |
| 18:22.58 | jhutchins_lt | !software raid |
| 18:22.59 | dpkg | "Multidisk Device" (MD) is commonly used to describe the software <RAID> facilities available in the Linux kernel. To establish a software RAID array at Debian installation time, see section 6.3.3.4 of the <install guide>. See also <mdadm>. http://wiki.debian.org/SoftwareRAID http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html http://raid.wiki.kernel.org/ |
| 18:23.30 | corretico_ | sure, I need a guide jejeje |
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| 18:23.36 | jhutchins_lt | corretico_: This is not something you do with a few commands from IRC. |
| 18:23.37 | corretico_ | sorry 4 my english!! |
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| 18:23.53 | kernelwut | corretico_: what youre describing is a raid 01 |
| 18:24.21 | kernelwut | you take the /dev/md* devices, and make a raid 0 out of those [which are in raid 1 respectivley] |
| 18:24.23 | kernelwut | or the opposite. |
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| 18:26.34 | gentz_ | What's a good log analyzer/reader for reading /var/log/auth.log ? |
| 18:27.29 | gentz_ | trying to find something with regex matching and auto mail |
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| 18:29.35 | rozie | log2mail - Daemon watching logfiles and mailing lines matching patterns |
| 18:29.35 | rozie | logwatch - log analyser with nice output written in Perl |
| 18:29.50 | rozie | gentz_: apt-cache search log watch ;) |
| 18:30.10 | curfont | is there a channel for mdadm specifically? |
| 18:30.24 | curfont | it seems #mdadm is empty |
| 18:30.37 | curfont | otherwise.. http://pastie.org/2816421 someone explain this ... |
| 18:31.53 | jelly-home | curfont: #linux-raid |
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| 18:32.39 | jelly-home | !wayttd curfont |
| 18:32.40 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, curfont? |
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| 18:33.14 | curfont | jelly-home: It's a raid5 array, but it turns up as 2 + 1 spare |
| 18:33.25 | curfont | Hmm, maybe one of the disks are broken |
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| 18:34.22 | jelly-home | curfont: yeah. so remove the spare, --zero-superblock the device, then add it back as a normal member |
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| 18:35.23 | curfont | jelly-home: I am more wondering why it did it in the first place... |
| 18:35.41 | jelly-home | I have no idea about that |
| 18:35.58 | jelly-home | I also have no idea what the dd-s were all about |
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| 18:36.25 | curfont | zeroing |
| 18:36.39 | jelly-home | zeroing what? |
| 18:37.01 | curfont | the superblock |
| 18:37.25 | jelly-home | curfont: you used metadata format v1.2. It keeps the metadata near the end of the device. |
| 18:37.39 | jelly-home | curfont: use mdadm's --zero-superblock instead |
| 18:37.44 | curfont | jelly-home: I see, ok |
| 18:37.53 | curfont | Although... I just got a "The operation on file "\\.\PhysicalDrive4" failed" |
| 18:38.02 | curfont | This is a virtual machine btw |
| 18:38.09 | jelly-home | that sounds like a windows device path |
| 18:38.13 | curfont | yes |
| 18:38.23 | curfont | debian is running in vmware |
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| 18:48.36 | SupaYoshi | http://pastebin.com/LWDDczz0 does this work? |
| 18:48.41 | SupaYoshi | cronjob :P |
| 18:49.08 | Sm0ke0ut | possible |
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| 18:49.21 | Sm0ke0ut | just make sure in start.sh if the program is already running or not |
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| 18:49.48 | dym | SupaYoshi: what does it do? |
| 18:49.54 | blubberdiblub | SupaYoshi, actually you're better off with the minecraft init script example on the minecraft wiki |
| 18:49.56 | dym | start.sh |
| 18:49.58 | Sm0ke0ut | syntaxes is ok though :) |
| 18:50.03 | dym | yes |
| 18:50.11 | dym | well actually |
| 18:50.12 | SupaYoshi | But i use craftbukkit :P |
| 18:50.20 | dym | what do you want? 30 seconds? |
| 18:50.21 | SupaYoshi | + dotn use backup and stuff |
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| 18:50.39 | Sm0ke0ut | 30 seconds isn't possible |
| 18:50.43 | dym | every 30 minutes? |
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| 18:51.21 | SupaYoshi | i want my server to start on boot :P |
| 18:51.26 | curfont | the only way to fix it was to remove and re-add... |
| 18:52.00 | Sm0ke0ut | SupaYoshi: @reboot will work :) |
| 18:52.02 | blubberdiblub | SupaYoshi, use @reboot as the time |
| 18:52.12 | blubberdiblub | yeah, what Sm0ke0ut said *g* |
| 18:52.22 | Sm0ke0ut | ^_^ |
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| 18:54.08 | jelly-home | Sm0ke0ut: running a job from cron every 30 seconds is possible, just not with a single simple crontab line |
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| 18:55.15 | Sm0ke0ut | yeah ok |
| 18:55.20 | Sm0ke0ut | but better avoid that :) |
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| 18:55.45 | Sm0ke0ut | (asuming you want to play with sleep/timers) |
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| 18:56.45 | rozie | Sm0ke0ut: what do you recommend for running something more often than 1 minute? |
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| 18:57.23 | Sm0ke0ut | Nothing. I don't think there's such important thing to check every few seconds |
| 18:57.44 | Sm0ke0ut | a minimum interval of 1 minute will suffice for me :) |
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| 18:59.14 | blubberdiblub | if there's something that needs to be done more often, it's probably better when a dedicated application does the periodic action itself |
| 18:59.31 | jelly-home | rozie: rework your app instead of using cron? |
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| 19:01.02 | rozie | jelly-home: that's what I do. just been curious if there's better way |
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| 19:01.16 | rozie | BTW http://larryn.blogspot.com/2010/07/do-something-every-minut-in-shell.html - similar topic |
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| 19:01.48 | Sm0ke0ut | cron: * * * * * will also run every minute ;-) |
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| 19:03.28 | rozie | Sm0ke0ut: yeah, but just read it |
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| 19:05.57 | SupaYoshi | my crontab isnt working |
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| 19:06.19 | Sm0ke0ut | yeah ok. but that's for very specific programming/timing |
| 19:06.29 | Sm0ke0ut | SupaYoshi what's the problem? (logs?) |
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| 19:08.06 | SupaYoshi | oh i think i know now.. will see :P |
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| 19:10.13 | SupaYoshi | nope i didnt |
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| 19:10.25 | SupaYoshi | my start.sh script works, but my cronjob fails |
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| 19:11.00 | Sm0ke0ut | maybe because the execution path is different |
| 19:11.30 | blubberdiblub | or he got the syntax wrong. we can hardly tell without seeing anything of it |
| 19:11.33 | Sm0ke0ut | try run start.sh from another location |
| 19:11.42 | SupaYoshi | i think i knew it, i had to do start.sh start |
| 19:11.46 | SupaYoshi | instead of just start.sh :P |
| 19:11.51 | SupaYoshi | well its rebooting atm.. so >< |
| 19:12.35 | blubberdiblub | actually you don't really need to reboot to test @reboot entries in crontabs |
| 19:13.29 | Sm0ke0ut | yeah, you can run 'run-parts' if I'm correct |
| 19:13.49 | blubberdiblub | that doesn't test the wellformed-ness of the crontab |
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| 19:14.10 | blubberdiblub | i meant more like: rm /var/run/crond.reboot && /etc/init.d/cron restart |
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| 19:15.19 | mns | is there a way to scan a document to PDF ? I have a HP 6310 officejet 4-in-1 with Debian wheezy |
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| 19:18.17 | SupaYoshi | is this cronjob valid? =/ it doesnt start *cries* |
| 19:18.35 | Sm0ke0ut | what does the log says? |
| 19:19.12 | SupaYoshi | http://pastebin.com/Rxf4jjUA |
| 19:19.18 | SupaYoshi | how do i list the log? |
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| 19:19.53 | Sm0ke0ut | check /var/log/syslof |
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| 19:19.58 | Sm0ke0ut | check /var/log/syslog |
| 19:20.04 | SupaYoshi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:21.16 | SupaYoshi | thats empty? |
| 19:21.39 | Sm0ke0ut | you're logged in as root? |
| 19:21.49 | Sm0ke0ut | because you need root access to view that file ;-) |
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| 19:23.00 | SupaYoshi | em |
| 19:23.02 | SupaYoshi | were do i look for |
| 19:23.05 | SupaYoshi | it works :p but... woa |
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| 19:23.56 | woshty | i am currently playing around with samba settings, the aio stuff does not seem to have any effect. what would be average write speed to a share on an atom base system? |
| 19:23.56 | Sm0ke0ut | yeah, the file can contain a lot of lines. you can eventually grep a small part of it (grep -i cron /var/log/syslog) |
| 19:24.16 | Sm0ke0ut | woshty: I think around 10MB/s |
| 19:24.35 | SupaYoshi | okayy :P |
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| 19:25.23 | coppermine | i have an arm embedded board running debian, can I use a usb webcam with it? |
| 19:25.28 | coppermine | it has a usb port |
| 19:25.32 | coppermine | or do i need to recompoile the kernel? |
| 19:25.32 | SupaYoshi | http://pastebin.com/ENb3kHk2 |
| 19:25.52 | woshty | Sm0ke0ut: gbit lan? i get around 35 write ~85 read for large files. but i dont understand why write is so slow .. and why the aio read/write size has no effect |
| 19:26.26 | Sm0ke0ut | that's fater then I'd get with my atom server :P |
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| 19:26.30 | Sm0ke0ut | (also gbit lan) |
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| 19:26.44 | SupaYoshi | oh i think i kno |
| 19:26.50 | Sm0ke0ut | it's actually one of the reasons I made a windows fileserver |
| 19:27.21 | woshty | Sm0ke0ut: i just increased the RCVBUF and SNDBUF .. |
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| 19:28.14 | SupaYoshi | oh no i didnt... |
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| 19:28.25 | SupaYoshi | I thought i had to run the cronjob as root... |
| 19:28.38 | SupaYoshi | but eh =/ i edited the crontab -e with root |
| 19:28.41 | SupaYoshi | and its still not starting :p |
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| 19:28.48 | hanasaki | what is a good (prefer webbrower based) tool for editing ldap entries of users/groups/services?? |
| 19:29.20 | Sm0ke0ut | never run programs as root, unless it's really required |
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| 19:29.51 | Sm0ke0ut | Make it easy for yourself: edit /etc/crontab |
| 19:29.54 | Sm0ke0ut | add: 0,30 * * * * USERNAME /etc/init.d/start.sh start |
| 19:30.04 | medsouz | Hello |
| 19:30.18 | medsouz | Is it possible to install something from the sid repos in squeeze? |
| 19:30.26 | medsouz | Without ruining your machine |
| 19:30.33 | valdyn | Sm0ke0ut: now why would this script be in /etc/init.d when its not an init script? |
| 19:30.37 | boudiccas | yes its possible, but not wise |
| 19:30.50 | Sm0ke0ut | it's what he already has |
| 19:30.52 | medsouz | I need a newer version of FileRoller |
| 19:30.53 | Sm0ke0ut | I didn't modify it |
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| 19:31.28 | valdyn | medsouz: no, dont try this |
| 19:31.41 | medsouz | okay |
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| 19:31.54 | SupaYoshi | heyyy :D |
| 19:32.01 | SupaYoshi | SmokeOut |
| 19:32.02 | medsouz | FileRoller won't let me edit jar files just read them with the current version |
| 19:32.04 | SupaYoshi | ur hero :p |
| 19:32.15 | Sm0ke0ut | (if you want a newer version, compile it yourself) |
| 19:32.36 | SupaYoshi | it works :D only thing now, does anyone how i view the minecraft console from ssh or better -> webbrowser? |
| 19:32.44 | valdyn | medsouz: sids fileroller is already on gnome3, which would involve a huge number of packages to be ported first |
| 19:33.02 | medsouz | I hate GNOME 3's looks too |
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| 19:36.55 | Gblue | Hello, can someone help me? |
| 19:37.03 | Gblue | when i try to run firestarter it says: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 19:37.12 | Gblue | and then the application will not start |
| 19:37.16 | somiaj | SupaYoshi: run the server in screen. |
| 19:37.51 | somiaj | Gblue: echo $DISPLAY sounds like your display variable isn't set or your running it as another user who didn't start the xserver |
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| 19:38.36 | babilen | Gblue: A stab in the dark: You probably need to start it as root. I recommend do use gksu(do) to do so. |
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| 19:39.23 | Quibus | 3rd try for this unanswered question :) I used to use music-applet to get notifications and a quick control of rhythmbox. But that package is gone now. What are the alternatives? |
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| 19:41.54 | Gblue | babilen |
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| 19:42.05 | Gblue | i run it as root and it says the same error |
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| 19:42.35 | Gblue | somiaj |
| 19:42.46 | Gblue | how do i start xserver? |
| 19:42.54 | babilen | Gblue: with gksu/gksudo? |
| 19:43.04 | somiaj | Gblue: are you not running a xserver? Is this on a a remote machine or local machine? |
| 19:43.17 | Gblue | babilen yes |
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| 19:43.30 | Gblue | somiaj: local machine |
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| 19:43.46 | babilen | Gblue: Do you try this from within X? |
| 19:43.51 | JordiGH | For some stupid government form, I have to run stupid Adobe Reader. Any advice? |
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| 19:44.03 | valdyn | JordiGH: install it |
| 19:44.08 | somiaj | are you running x on the local machine (i.e. are you in a graphical enviorment)? Are you running this program from a consolr or terminal? Run it as sudo. |
| 19:44.12 | babilen | JordiGH: IIRC adobereader is available from dmm |
| 19:44.13 | JordiGH | How? Damn thing requires a library not in squeeze. |
| 19:44.24 | Gblue | JordiGH: run it with whine |
| 19:44.26 | Gblue | or wine |
| 19:44.29 | valdyn | JordiGH: all you need it in dmm |
| 19:44.33 | somiaj | JordiGH: what libary does it require? |
| 19:44.35 | babilen | likes "whine" |
| 19:44.44 | Blackvel | what is the easiest way to use a 2nd V-Server filesystem (squeeze) and mount that on an old lenny server? smbfs? fuse sshfs? |
| 19:44.46 | Gblue | somiaj: i have no gui |
| 19:45.03 | babilen | Gblue: Well, you need a GUI if you want to run it |
| 19:45.03 | somiaj | Gblue: well to run a gui application you need a gui. If you don't have one, get a program that isn't a gui. |
| 19:45.08 | JordiGH | somiaj: libgdk |
| 19:45.08 | Blackvel | i have no space left on my server for backup or mysqldump |
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| 19:45.40 | Gblue | somiaj; i have no gui, my application firestarter is on debian server |
| 19:45.43 | Gblue | without gui |
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| 19:46.01 | babilen | Gblue: Are you running an X server locally? |
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| 19:46.12 | Gblue | babilen: what is x server? |
| 19:46.17 | Gblue | yes, locally |
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| 19:46.34 | babilen | Gblue: A graphical interface -- How are you accessing the server? What operating system do you run locally? |
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| 19:46.48 | Gblue | oh okay |
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| 19:46.54 | babilen | Gblue: If you access it via ssh, try "ssh -X" when you connect to it to enable X forwarding. |
| 19:46.56 | kristian-aalborg | cheers |
| 19:47.00 | kristian-aalborg | thewanderer1, yo |
| 19:47.12 | Gblue | i access my server on a screen that is connected to my server, with no graphical content and i run on my server debian |
| 19:47.18 | Gblue | ok |
| 19:47.25 | somiaj | JordiGH: libgdk-pixbuf2 is in lenny -- you should be able to install that libary just fine (because of depends) from oldstable and see if it works. |
| 19:48.01 | kristian-aalborg | just installed squeeze via netinstall on an ancient box, now I get the "out of disk" error |
| 19:48.26 | Gblue | btw |
| 19:48.31 | Gblue | i can't connect to my server in putty |
| 19:48.56 | somiaj | kristian-aalborg: type 'df -h' -- see how much disk space you have |
| 19:49.18 | kristian-aalborg | somiaj, this is a 40GB hdd, I definitely have enough space |
| 19:49.22 | kristian-aalborg | and, I can't even boot |
| 19:49.32 | kristian-aalborg | could I repair grub from DSL? |
| 19:49.39 | babilen | Gblue: So, you have a screen that is directly connected to the server and you are currently working on that? You also have a windows computer, but you cannot use Putty to connect to your server? |
| 19:49.52 | Gblue | yes, babilen, thats it! |
| 19:49.54 | Gblue | thats right! |
| 19:50.36 | somiaj | JordiGH: only other option I can think of is backport libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 from wheezy. Though if the oldstable lib works (it should isntall just fine since all the debs are >= ) I would go that route. Its strange that libgdk was taken from squeeze. |
| 19:51.19 | somiaj | JordiGH: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gdk-pixbuf.html if you care to look as to why it isn't in squeeze. |
| 19:51.54 | babilen | Gblue: Ok, two options: 1. Install a SSH server on your server (apt-get install openssh-server and connect with putty (enable X forwarding, no idea what is needed on Windows for that to work) or 2. Install an X server and a desktop environment/window manager on the server or 3. (best option IMHO) Configure iptables manually or use something like shorewall. |
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| 19:52.03 | babilen | s/two options/three options/ |
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| 19:54.50 | jhutchins | babilen: Forwarding X to windows requires an Xserver on Windows. Putty didn't use to include one but they may have one available now. |
| 19:55.32 | babilen | jhutchins: *shrug* -- "win-get xserver" ? :-þ |
| 19:55.40 | Blackvel | got a question for stable/testing: to get the latest (stable) versions of postfix, apache2 and mysql running, do I have to switch on squeeze to testing or experimental? |
| 19:55.56 | babilen | jhutchins: I have this distant memory of something called MingW |
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| 19:56.43 | babilen | Blackvel: The stable versions are in stable -- Or are you talking about the latest releases from upstream? |
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| 19:56.56 | babilen | Blackvel: Why on earth to you need the lates postfix release? |
| 19:57.01 | somiaj | Blackvel: if you have to ask, run stable. If the version in squeeze lacks features (note why do you need the latest upstream release)? You will have to backport |
| 19:57.13 | babilen | ,versions postfix |
| 19:57.15 | judd | Package: postfix on i386 -- lenny: 2.5.5-1.1+lenny1; lenny-security: 2.5.5-1.1+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.7.1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.8.3-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.8.3-1; sid: 2.8.5-1 |
| 19:57.20 | tharkun | Blackvel: use 2.8 from packports |
| 19:57.25 | jhutchins | babilen: Is this so he can run firestarter though? There are better things to do. |
| 19:57.27 | tharkun | 2.9 is still experimental |
| 19:57.30 | babilen | Blackvel: you can get 2.8.3 from backports |
| 19:57.33 | somiaj | Blackvel: if you are worried about security bugs, realize debian stable patches all known security holes, so though they may say you need version X of postfix to not have the bug, debian patches the stable version. |
| 19:57.41 | babilen | jhutchins: yeah, exactly |
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| 19:58.10 | Blackvel | hey guys thanks for infos |
| 19:58.19 | babilen | !tell Blackvel -about bdo |
| 19:58.32 | Blackvel | on mysql chan they ask me: why the hell do you want to go with 5.0/5.1, there is 5.5 ga out |
| 19:58.47 | jhutchins | iirc you can run firestarter on a local x-enabled machine to generate the scripts, then move the scripts to the target machine. Might be a different firewall builder I'm thinking of though. |
| 19:58.54 | allisterb | hello I'm running Squeeze with a pretty old processor - Pentium M and I want to disable cpu fequency scaling on it but I'm getting like five different conflicting sets of procedures mentioning kernel modules, sysfs, userspace frequency scaling daemons, laptop-mode service |
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| 19:58.59 | babilen | Blackvel: *Never* mix stable with anything but backports (and even that sparingly) |
| 19:59.10 | allisterb | 5 different sets of procedures I mean |
| 19:59.22 | Blackvel | and then i start to think....when i setup this new server and prolly won't touch it afterwards..maybe I can install the (latest stable) rls versions without a big matter :) |
| 19:59.22 | valdyn | Blackvel: upstream does this, that does not mean that a production system should use the latest |
| 19:59.22 | tharkun | Blackvel: Is there some feature on mysql that you are looking for? |
| 19:59.27 | Gblue | how do i change the configuration of opensshd? |
| 19:59.31 | babilen | allisterb: You most likely just need the performance governor (if you want full power all the time) |
| 19:59.42 | valdyn | Gblue: with a text editor |
| 19:59.50 | babilen | allisterb: fwiw, the on-demand governer typically "does the right thing"â„¢ |
| 20:00.09 | Gblue | yeh, i know |
| 20:00.10 | tharkun | Blackvel: the more custom you build your servers the more admin time they require. Use that as a rule of thumb |
| 20:00.14 | Gblue | but wich file is that? |
| 20:00.31 | Blackvel | i think i wont 'REALLY' need the latest postfix, apache & co. my config does not use the latest features. so for postfix i was pinned to Version: 2.5.5-1.1 (lenny) |
| 20:00.36 | tharkun | Gblue: man sshd_config |
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| 20:00.42 | woshty | how do i determine if samba in squeeze is compiled with aio support? |
| 20:00.55 | babilen | jhutchins: What is the better option then? |
| 20:01.04 | Gblue | tharkun: in wich map? |
| 20:01.10 | tharkun | Blackvel: upgrade that AFAIK that no longer recieves any kind of support (postfix 2.5) |
| 20:01.11 | babilen | jhutchins: Ah, just found it in the backlog |
| 20:01.19 | jhutchins | Gblue: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/ssh/ |
| 20:01.22 | JordiGH | Oh, wait, I gotta enable Marillat's non-free. |
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| 20:01.37 | JordiGH | Is Marillat still runnning a one-man show? |
| 20:01.57 | Blackvel | tharkun: to be honest..even for mysql...i am not really looking for the latest features. i dont do much with it. get zarafa on. store mails. thats it |
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| 20:02.55 | Blackvel | be back in some minutes... |
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| 20:05.26 | GRMrGecko | I need help with some networking issues. I just gave my server some external IP addresses in addition to the internal IP and now when I forward a port via my router to the internal IP of the server, it does not accept the connection. |
| 20:05.38 | GRMrGecko | It does accept connections to the internal IP from another internal IP |
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| 20:05.58 | GRMrGecko | is this a firewall setting? |
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| 20:10.12 | Gblue | Putty wil not connect. |
| 20:10.33 | Gblue | i have set an static ip, installed openssd |
| 20:11.06 | babilen | Gblue: You mean openssh-server ? Is it running? |
| 20:11.06 | henchman24 | http://www.radiotoolbox.com/online_tools/cantheygetin.php |
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| 20:13.16 | Gblue | yes babilen |
| 20:13.19 | Gblue | it is up and running |
| 20:13.28 | somiaj | Blackvel: the two major reasons for needing a newer version are new features or security/bug fixes. Debian tries to fix all the security holes/bug fixes in the version on stable. So it is then mostly a feature issue. Depending on your use you could need the new features (But most don't, they just think they do) |
| 20:13.50 | henchman24 | maybe your router doesnt know how to route you from internal out and back in |
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| 20:14.49 | henchman24 | plus be careful hosting ssh servers, denyhosts, no root login, strong passwords |
| 20:14.56 | jelly-home | Blackvel: however, lenny is still getting security updates for the time being. You have 5 months or so to prepare for an upgrade if you want to keep using Debian provided updates. |
| 20:15.02 | henchman24 | check the logs and you'll know what i mean |
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| 20:15.35 | henchman24 | they keep trying to get in :P |
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| 20:18.26 | pigdude | my screen is brighter at 90 than 100. why is that? |
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| 20:18.36 | pigdude | (reading /proc/acpi LCD file) |
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| 20:18.44 | pigdude | it also randomly jumps to 100 |
| 20:18.47 | boudiccas | pigdude; 90 what? |
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| 20:18.52 | pigdude | boudiccas, the value 90 |
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| 20:19.04 | pigdude | boudiccas, current: 90 |
| 20:19.08 | pigdude | boudiccas, current: 100 (etc) |
| 20:19.31 | pigdude | /proc/acpi/video/VID/LCD0/brightness |
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| 20:20.52 | pigdude | it's thinkpad r500 |
| 20:21.10 | pigdude | g jav |
| 20:21.13 | pigdude | oops |
| 20:22.28 | Gblue | Finally, it works. |
| 20:22.55 | Gblue | in /etc/network/interfaces i had changed my ip to static |
| 20:23.02 | goddard | anyone tried Debian with Hurd? |
| 20:23.02 | Gblue | and i had given the wrong ip address |
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| 20:23.16 | Gblue | so my pc won't connect to the internet anymore |
| 20:23.24 | Gblue | that's solved now, because i have set it to dhcp |
| 20:23.25 | Gblue | :] |
| 20:23.28 | Gblue | thanks for helping! |
| 20:23.32 | muhoo | is it possible to run a different distro in a chroot? |
| 20:23.42 | muhoo | i.e. lenny in main system, and squeeze in chroot? |
| 20:23.45 | jelly-home | muhoo: yes, usually |
| 20:23.46 | nb-ben | goddard: what's Hurd ? |
| 20:24.02 | muhoo | ok i'll try it then |
| 20:24.10 | somiaj | muhoo: wth debootstrap you can do that just fine. Though I would go the other way. Now what you run in the chroot you have to be careful |
| 20:24.20 | goddard | nb-ben: Hurd is a kernel similar to Linux but without binary blobs and other non "open / free" software |
| 20:24.25 | somiaj | muhoo: for example running a full DE in a chroot may be problematic |
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| 20:24.49 | nb-ben | I see |
| 20:25.14 | muhoo | somiaj: how so? i need to run apache/mysql/php in a chroot, a more recent version than i have on this system |
| 20:25.41 | muhoo | and i do NOT have any of them running on the main system, so they shouldn't conflict |
| 20:26.05 | muhoo | i.e. trying to claim ports or sockets already in use |
| 20:26.05 | goddard | nb-ben: a lot of people dont realize that Linux is really the GNU project and Linus isn't the inventor of it.. it was Richard Stallman Linus doesn't even believe in what most others believe in with regard to free softwares |
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| 20:27.06 | somiaj | muhoo: that sould work just fine..and you can use things like dchroot to launch them. Though why not just upgrade your system to squeeze since lenny is loosing support anyways? |
| 20:27.30 | muhoo | somiaj: lots of reasons, but eventually i will do that |
| 20:27.58 | goddard | nb-ben: some people dont care that there are binary blogs which is effectively a set of 0 or 1's put into the kernel so some hardware works. So if you have an Nvidia card for example that is what their drivers do. ATI does have open source drivers or an API at least so does AMD another reason to steer clear of the Intel/Nvidia combo |
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| 20:28.39 | goddard | nb-ben: security related issues could arise and even bugs which if opened to the plugin would be improved and possible fixed faster |
| 20:29.20 | goddard | nb-ben: http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/what_is_the_gnu_hurd.html |
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| 20:30.56 | nb-ben | I see goddard |
| 20:30.59 | nb-ben | that is interesting |
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| 20:31.49 | jhutchins | Contrary to RMS, there have been a lot of paths to what we call "Linux" today, and not all of them led through GNU. |
| 20:32.23 | jhutchins | A lot of them have used the GNU licenses without going full-bore "free software is the only way". |
| 20:32.25 | goddard | nb-ben: here is another good write up about the debate http://www.dina.dk/~abraham/Linus_vs_Tanenbaum.html |
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| 20:33.12 | muhoo | damn, debootstrap is slick. been years since i used it. |
| 20:33.13 | jhutchins | Apache isn't GNU. |
| 20:33.41 | jhutchins | ntp isn't. |
| 20:34.03 | GRMrGecko | can anyone help me with a network issue? |
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| 20:34.38 | war9407 | E151: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'exim4'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
| 20:34.39 | war9407 | ?? |
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| 20:35.23 | goddard | jhutchins: what was do you mean? |
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| 20:35.35 | goddard | jhutchins: BSD? |
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| 20:36.33 | babilen | GRMrGecko: not is you keep it a secret |
| 20:36.59 | GRMrGecko | babilen: I asked above, none responded. |
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| 20:37.58 | Quibus | dpkg, gnome 3 |
| 20:37.59 | dpkg | GNOME 3 is the new and not yet complete version of the GNOME desktop environment. Bits of it are starting to work their way into Debian unstable at the moment and wheezy will release with it. See http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html for details. Also ask me about <install gnome>, <gnome-shell>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/04/msg00111.html |
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| 20:39.44 | goddard | I like Gnome 3 |
| 20:40.51 | GRMrGecko | whenever I gave my server some external IP addresses on another interface, it now filters connections from my router. |
| 20:41.03 | GRMrGecko | nmap says 22/tcp  filtered ssh |
| 20:41.14 | GRMrGecko | and I cannot ssh the server from the routers external Ip |
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| 20:51.15 | muhoo | hmm. debootstrap didn't install apt-get |
| 20:51.26 | muhoo | or aptitude or apt-anything |
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| 20:51.40 | muhoo | so i'm chrooted in, but there's no way to get packages |
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| 20:52.58 | muhoo | i got dpkg though. hmm. do i really need to manually go fetch apt-get deb and install it? |
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| 20:57.26 | somiaj | muhoo: debootstrap should install apt-get. Something must have went wrong. |
| 20:57.38 | somiaj | apt-get is part of the base system |
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| 21:00.08 | muhoo | something did indeed go wrong. i had to manually install these: http://pastebin.com/AGVcY9Pi |
| 21:00.13 | muhoo | but now it seems happy |
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| 21:03.29 | bs0d | Hello everybody. I am trying to add a 3.0 TB SATA2 hard disk to a volume group ( actually, create it ), I choose /dev/sdc free #1 ( 30000592 MB free space ) line and get an error: partition length of 586053176 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of 4294967295. |
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| 21:03.37 | bs0d | I will highly appreciate if someone explain me whats wrong and how can I deal with this |
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| 21:04.23 | batouzo | is there a way to use backport kernel wile installing debian stable from business install? |
| 21:04.39 | erawfish_ | it means the msods partition table cannot use 3TB drives. you need to use GPT for it |
| 21:04.39 | batouzo | we need backport to support eth card needed for the net install |
| 21:04.51 | erawfish_ | !tell batouzo about kmuto |
| 21:05.23 | somiaj | batouzo: do you have a usb driver to trasnfer a backported kernel on. The net install contains a complete base system. You can install the base system from the net install. |
| 21:05.36 | somiaj | batouzo: copy over the backported kernel, install it, set up your network card then continue the online install |
| 21:05.37 | bs0d | erawfish_: I see. I'll google on it. Does debian allow to use gpt generically? I do not have to install anything else? |
| 21:05.52 | erawfish_ | bs0d: should be able to use it |
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| 21:06.22 | batouzo | erawfish_: is there official way to do it? |
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| 21:06.57 | batouzo | during installation can you load kernel module (from backport)? |
| 21:07.14 | erawfish_ | as somiaj said: use the netinst installer and you can later on install a backport kernel. or use the kmuto installer which uses a 2.6.39 kernel by default |
| 21:07.24 | somiaj | bs0d: the MBR partition table, a single parttion cannot have a max size bigger than 2.1TB -- you'll have to use GPT |
| 21:07.38 | erawfish_ | no you cannot load a module from a backports kernel to a normal squeeze 2.6.32 kernel |
| 21:07.44 | somiaj | bs0d: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table (or make two smaller partitions) |
| 21:08.02 | erawfish_ | batouzo: please read what dpkg messaged to you |
| 21:08.05 | da2ce7 | http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ is down. |
| 21:08.10 | da2ce7 | :( |
| 21:08.19 | batouzo | erawfish_: so netinstal can be completed without access to network? and businesscard? |
| 21:08.26 | somiaj | batouzo: either way works, I'm not sure how offical the kmuto installer is. Personally I would just install a base system and copy over a newer kernel from there. |
| 21:08.27 | erawfish_ | da2ce7: it's not |
| 21:08.40 | erawfish_ | batouzo: business card needs network access. netinst doesn't |
| 21:08.50 | da2ce7 | o... just my dogey interent |
| 21:08.53 | da2ce7 | *tys over tor* |
| 21:08.56 | somiaj | batouzo: correct, the netinstall contains the complete base system. It only needs the network to install additional features (which most people will want) |
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| 21:10.15 | goddard | check this out http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_gnu_hurd |
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| 21:11.05 | batouzo | somiaj: once Im done with network-less install, how to install everything that would be in normal "[*] desktop environment" |
| 21:11.43 | somiaj | batouzo: you could rerun 'tasksel' or just use aptitude (or apt-get) to install what you want. |
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| 21:12.55 | muhoo | can i safely turn off avahi and dbus on the chroot? |
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| 21:15.33 | somiaj | muhoo: sure, I even turn of avahi on my desktops. Sometimes I wish I could do away with dbus too. |
| 21:15.41 | somiaj | muhoo: but I see no reason the chroot needs them. |
| 21:16.32 | da2ce7 | second question, can I use ufid boot for debian? |
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| 21:16.44 | judgen | howdy |
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| 21:21.38 | batouzo | hi ju |
| 21:21.41 | batouzo | judgen even |
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| 21:25.10 | wolfric | Can you use samba in debian with accounts to "force a user to change password at next login"? |
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| 21:26.19 | abrotman | wolfric: man passwd .. that may help, depends on your samba config |
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| 21:26.48 | somiaj | wolfric: yea, you don't have to use local users with samba, you can create your own samba database of users/passwords. |
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| 21:37.13 | DarsVaeda | hi, I run a netinstaller graphical install and choose encrypted lvm for my whole drive with different partitions...now it is at erasing data on a partition (I guess that is the whole drive) and it takes 3 hours now...but the drive is only 80GB |
| 21:37.38 | DarsVaeda | whats wrong there? it never took that long for ubuntu ie. |
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| 21:38.56 | judgen | DarsVaeda: Some devices does not allow initializing only... guessing that is not your case but it might, |
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| 21:39.16 | judgen | as you can do that on other OS'es |
| 21:39.25 | DarsVaeda | i have installed ubuntu several times on this system |
| 21:39.30 | judgen | sure you did not pick some strange option? |
| 21:39.34 | somiaj | DarsVaeda: sometimes you can choose between zeroing the whole drive (a full wipe) or just putting a new filesystem on it. |
| 21:40.02 | DarsVaeda | no it did not let me choose something like that but I also think it is doing something like that |
| 21:40.24 | DarsVaeda | maybe because I choose an encrypted lvm and it already was an encrypted lvm before? |
| 21:40.28 | somiaj | DarsVaeda: are you using expert or normal mode? Did you choose to manually parttion your haddrive and choose which files systems you put where? |
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| 21:40.49 | somiaj | yea maybe it has to reencrypt everything with a new key...'m not that familar with encrypted systems |
| 21:40.53 | somiaj | file systems |
| 21:40.55 | DarsVaeda | no normal mode, wheezy install, did the automatic partioning |
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| 21:42.19 | somiaj | I'd check the bts on the wheezy installer, maybe this is a known issue with encrypted partitions. |
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| 21:44.43 | DarsVaeda | "I assume this is also true for Debian 6 (I haven't confirmed it), but by default Debian 5 will do a cryptographically secure erase when setting up an encrypted partition. This takes a long time, and might account for your 9 hour install. If you partition manually, you can tell it to skip that step and it will finish much faster, with the the caveat that ... " |
| 21:44.53 | DarsVaeda | thats why, found an answer |
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| 21:46.47 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 21:46.57 | lenswipe | i have no sound in anything other than hangout |
| 21:47.01 | somiaj | yea I guess they assume if you want an encrypted partition to do a secure erase build of it. |
| 21:47.01 | lenswipe | anyone got any ideas? |
| 21:47.05 | somiaj | which seems reasonable |
| 21:47.28 | somiaj | lenswipe: what is hangout? If you completely quick hangout (so it isn't grabing your sound card) can you have sound in other applications? |
| 21:47.33 | lenswipe | google hangout |
| 21:47.47 | DarsVaeda | right I still considering filing a bug report or future request for a message that will tell you that it does so and it takes a long long time |
| 21:47.47 | lenswipe | i have sound in nothing else than google hangout |
| 21:47.53 | lenswipe | google hangout being web based video chat |
| 21:47.56 | somiaj | lenswipe: most sound cards don't have hardware mixing. dmix software mixing should be set up by default, but if you use a custom .asoundrc you could overwrite that. |
| 21:47.58 | lenswipe | i dont even have sound in youtube |
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| 21:48.03 | guest-w56tW5 | helo |
| 21:48.12 | guest-w56tW5 | every body |
| 21:48.18 | lenswipe | somiaj, its not a soundcard issue, it works on and off |
| 21:48.19 | somiaj | lenswipe: is google hangout flash? Or something else? |
| 21:48.24 | lenswipe | HTML5 |
| 21:48.28 | lenswipe | so no its not flasg |
| 21:48.29 | lenswipe | flash* |
| 21:48.40 | somiaj | lenswipe: I think that is the issue, do you have a custom .asoundrc? |
| 21:48.46 | guest-w56tW5 | how to login with root in tty between login user name |
| 21:48.51 | lenswipe | somiaj, nope |
| 21:48.53 | somiaj | lenswipe: i.e. flash cannot grab the sound card since its being used by google hangout. |
| 21:49.08 | guest-w56tW5 | how to login with root in tty between login user name |
| 21:49.08 | somiaj | lenswipe: I would try to completely log out of hangout, and your webrowser. restart it then try basic things |
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| 21:49.11 | lenswipe | somiaj, its worked before in the past |
| 21:49.14 | somiaj | !tell lenswipe about alsa-checklist |
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| 21:49.41 | erawfish_ | lenswipe: check what file(s) your browser has open when using hangout |
| 21:49.42 | lenswipe | somiaj, ive done all that |
| 21:49.50 | lenswipe | somiaj, no joy |
| 21:50.01 | lenswipe | erawfish_, youtube and gmail |
| 21:50.14 | somiaj | lenswipe: so you can aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav just fine? |
| 21:50.16 | erawfish_ | lenswipe: files |
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| 21:50.36 | lenswipe | erawfish_, i have no idea |
| 21:50.39 | LordTrev | When I installed debian I used wicd to connect to a hidden network, since connecting to this network my computer connects to it at boot, even after uninstalling wicd |
| 21:50.40 | somiaj | lenswipe: I would log completely out of your webbrowser (close it down, and check to see if dmix software mixing is working). |
| 21:50.41 | lenswipe | somiaj, lemme check |
| 21:50.46 | erawfish_ | lenswipe: I just told you to look... |
| 21:50.52 | sylar | anyone know multiseat? |
| 21:51.01 | lenswipe | exec -o aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav |
| 21:51.01 | LordTrev | I cannot figure out how to stop it from connecting. |
| 21:51.03 | erawfish_ | LordTrev: dpkg -l |grep wicd |
| 21:51.04 | lenswipe | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 21:51.04 | lenswipe | aplay: main:654: audio open error: Device or resource busy |
| 21:51.08 | lenswipe | somiaj, ^ |
| 21:51.25 | somiaj | LordTrev: did you completely uninstall wicd, or did you just uninstall the client |
| 21:51.34 | somiaj | lenswipe: did you completely close down your webbrowser? |
| 21:51.41 | lenswipe | no im about to do it |
| 21:52.09 | somiaj | lenswipe: jsut what I thought, your card doesn't support hardware mixing, and for some reason dmix isn't working. This should work by default so this makes me think you have a custom .asoundrc |
| 21:52.17 | lenswipe | somiaj, ok this time i got: Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono |
| 21:52.23 | lenswipe | except i heard nothing |
| 21:52.30 | LordTrev | somiaj, I uninstalled wicd and did a auto clean, also even within wicd I cannot change the defualt connection, it insists on connecting to that network automatically |
| 21:52.48 | lenswipe | there we go |
| 21:52.50 | lenswipe | i heard it that time |
| 21:53.04 | lenswipe | so now i have sound again |
| 21:53.21 | somiaj | lenswipe: ls -l ~/.asoundrc |
| 21:53.26 | somiaj | lenswipe: do you have a file there? |
| 21:53.45 | somiaj | LordTrev: check /etc/network/interfaces -- do you have your network setup there? |
| 21:53.53 | lenswipe | ls: cannot access /home/robert/.asoundrc: No such file or directory |
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| 21:53.56 | nudb2 | hi - how do I fix OpenOffice's absurd indentation in numbered lists, sometimes there is a giant tab when you make a new list item, sometimes there is no tab (between the numbering and the first character) |
| 21:54.05 | lenswipe | somiaj, guess thats a no |
| 21:54.29 | LordTrev | somiaj, I have /etc/network but not /interfaces |
| 21:54.36 | somiaj | lenswipe: what version of debian? -- ok now load up your webbrowser and goto youtube or some other non hangout site, can you get noise? |
| 21:54.45 | lenswipe | somiaj, squeeze |
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| 21:54.56 | somiaj | LordTrev: you don't have an interfaces file in /etc/network? |
| 21:55.07 | somiaj | LordTrev: ls /etc/network |
| 21:55.28 | LordTrev | Wait, yes I do, not sure what I did |
| 21:55.59 | lenswipe | Some_Person, nope |
| 21:56.10 | LordTrev | somiaj, found it, thank ou so much |
| 21:56.17 | lenswipe | somiaj, * |
| 21:56.19 | lenswipe | somiaj, nope |
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| 21:56.45 | somiaj | lenswipe: do you have puslse audio installed or some other sound daemon? |
| 21:56.46 | LordTrev | you* |
| 21:56.50 | lenswipe | somiaj, im using alsa |
| 21:57.04 | somiaj | lenswipe: pulseaduio/etc are on top of alsa. |
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| 21:58.10 | lenswipe | somiaj, i have to go, bbl |
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| 22:02.30 | StephenS | i have a problem with debian |
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| 22:02.48 | StephenS | when I play a movie in gnome mplayer it has sound but when i maximaze it video loads slow |
| 22:03.06 | StephenS | when I open with movie player its okay with loading but it has no sound |
| 22:03.18 | StephenS | its the same with dragon player and mplayer |
| 22:03.22 | StephenS | what to do? |
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| 22:05.27 | henchman24 | is it an HD video? |
| 22:05.27 | somiaj | StephenS: does this happen on all videos or just a paticular codec. |
| 22:05.40 | StephenS | all videos |
| 22:05.42 | somiaj | StephenS: some old computers have troubhe with the hd codecs |
| 22:05.43 | StephenS | on tv its ok |
| 22:05.47 | StephenS | on windowws it ok |
| 22:05.51 | henchman24 | do you have the proper video drivers? |
| 22:05.54 | StephenS | no my is not old I bought it 5 months ago |
| 22:05.58 | StephenS | no |
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| 22:06.11 | StephenS | actuallty I do have nvidia drivers but I think sound is problem |
| 22:06.26 | StephenS | I had azalia enabled in dos and I disabled it so I have only one sound card |
| 22:06.37 | StephenS | and my hd sound card is now disabled, so it shouldnt any conflict |
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| 22:06.55 | henchman24 | dos... |
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| 22:07.25 | somiaj | StephenS: so are you using hdmi to plug into your tv? |
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| 22:07.39 | somiaj | StephenS: but are using another sound card for the audio? |
| 22:07.44 | StephenS | no no |
| 22:07.53 | StephenS | I have an LG monitor and I watch movie on it |
| 22:08.08 | somiaj | what are you pluggin your audio card into? |
| 22:08.08 | StephenS | here is output from lspci: Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller] (rev 03) |
| 22:08.22 | StephenS | what? |
| 22:08.48 | somiaj | StephenS: do you have internal speakers in your monintor you are trying to use, or external speakers you have pluged your sound card into? |
| 22:09.00 | StephenS | external |
| 22:09.03 | somiaj | StephenS: also cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 22:09.09 | StephenS | I use headphones |
| 22:09.20 | somiaj | StephenS: if you have multiple sound cards best make sure you are outputting sound to the corerct one |
| 22:09.38 | StephenS | cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 22:09.40 | StephenS | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.40 | StephenS | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.40 | StephenS | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.40 | StephenS | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:10.11 | StephenS | here you can see nvidia card is seted and HDMI is my another HD yamaha sound card |
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| 22:11.31 | StephenS | and azalia is disabled in dos |
| 22:11.40 | somiaj | StephenS: you have to tell your system to use the Yamaha card if that is the one you are pluged into. Try mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=3.0 [if its your third sound card] |
| 22:12.03 | somiaj | StephenS: or configure a .asoundrc to select your default sound card |
| 22:12.07 | StephenS | no I plugged headphones into regular |
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| 22:12.23 | somiaj | !tell StephenS about alsa-checklist |
| 22:12.25 | StephenS | for yamaha card I need to have a driver which doesnt exists forlinux so itsuseless |
| 22:12.41 | somiaj | So 1) run alsamixer, make sure the volumes are turned up and unumted |
| 22:13.08 | StephenS | man |
| 22:13.10 | somiaj | 2) run "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" to see if the sound card is working. Then figure out how to configure your applications ot use it |
| 22:13.14 | dvs | !alas checklist |
| 22:13.18 | StephenS | I can hear the music from youtube and everything |
| 22:13.22 | StephenS | card works, player doesnt |
| 22:13.42 | StephenS | I dont know is some library broken or something |
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| 22:14.03 | somiaj | Then look at the player config options, and figure out why. try to just mplayer from a terminal, since it will spit out a bunch of logs telling you what is goig on |
| 22:14.13 | somiaj | StephenS: does mplayer /path/to/video.file work? |
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| 22:16.00 | StephenS | yes its opening |
| 22:16.02 | StephenS | but without sound |
| 22:16.05 | StephenS | to c/p log? |
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| 22:16.07 | somiaj | parse though the output |
| 22:16.18 | somiaj | it should tell you why there is no audio |
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| 22:17.40 | StephenS | http://pastebin.com/JLpR4frR |
| 22:18.13 | somiaj | StephenS: do you have a webbroser open with say youtube grabing the sound card? |
| 22:18.43 | StephenS | i use chrome and opera and no they use defaukt sound card |
| 22:18.46 | somiaj | AO: [pulse] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) -- looks like you have pulseaudio installed? |
| 22:19.09 | StephenS | whats that? |
| 22:19.12 | somiaj | try mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.0 /path/to/file |
| 22:19.23 | somiaj | or just mplayer -ao alsa /path/to/file |
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| 22:19.44 | StephenS | ok |
| 22:20.24 | StephenS | works |
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| 22:21.27 | StephenS | but why not works when I open it from gnome not from terminal |
| 22:22.08 | StephenS | also I want to use my another sound card is that possible without driver? |
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| 22:23.19 | dvs | StephenS: No, you need a driver for your soundcard. I'll probably be in a newer kernel. |
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| 22:23.52 | StephenS | here is output from lspci: Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller] (rev 03) |
| 22:24.02 | dvs | s/I'll/You'll |
| 22:24.03 | StephenS | its azalia so is there a driver for it |
| 22:24.10 | StephenS | yeh k |
| 22:24.18 | StephenS | I use newest debian squazee and I have newest kernel |
| 22:24.43 | dvs | StephenS: There are backported kernels which are newer. |
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| 22:25.23 | StephenS | so should I first enable azalia driver in ms-dos or not? |
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| 22:25.52 | dvs | StephenS: it won't make a different to Debian if you enable it in ms-dos |
| 22:26.15 | babilen | StephenS: Could you run "lspci -nn" and give me the PCIID for that card? (the alphanumerical identifier at the end in brackets) |
| 22:26.16 | StephenS | yeah ok :D |
| 22:26.25 | babilen | dos? |
| 22:26.58 | StephenS | 02:00.1 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730 [1002:aa38] |
| 22:27.07 | babilen | ,pciid 1002:aa38 |
| 22:27.08 | judd | [1002:aa38] is 'RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:aa38 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 22:27.16 | babilen | hmm |
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| 22:27.32 | babilen | StephenS: That wasn't the Yamaha one :) |
| 22:27.35 | StephenS | I thougt on BIOS |
| 22:27.40 | StephenS | not dos :( |
| 22:27.44 | StephenS | should I enable azalia in BIOS? |
| 22:27.55 | StephenS | babilent it is |
| 22:28.20 | StephenS | oh it isnt osrry |
| 22:28.21 | babilen | StephenS: How is " 02:00.1 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730" == " Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller] (rev 03)" ? |
| 22:28.22 | StephenS | here: 01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller] [1073:000d] (rev 03) |
| 22:28.32 | babilen | ,pciid 1073:000d |
| 22:28.34 | judd | [1073:000d] is 'YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller]' from 'Yamaha Corporation' with kernel module 'snd-ymfpci' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1073:000d http://wiki.debian.org/snd-ymfpci |
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| 22:28.57 | LordTrev | Can someone help me configure the synaptics driver so I can tap to click? |
| 22:29.03 | StephenS | so is it in? |
| 22:29.09 | babilen | Looks supported -- Is snd-ymfpci loaded? (check lsmod|grep ymfpci) |
| 22:29.28 | babilen | StephenS: That card is supported since v2.6.25 |
| 22:29.43 | StephenS | how to check which version of kernel I have? |
| 22:29.49 | StephenS | uname -a ? |
| 22:29.56 | babilen | StephenS: I bet you have 2.6.32 -- But yeah, uname -a |
| 22:30.02 | StephenS | 2.6.32 |
| 22:30.02 | dvs | StephenS: check lsmod|grep ymfpci |
| 22:30.03 | StephenS | yes |
| 22:30.16 | StephenS | so I already have a driver in kernel great |
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| 22:30.27 | babilen | Or check "lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i yamaha" |
| 22:30.53 | babilen | StephenS: What makes you think that the card is not supported? |
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| 22:31.09 | StephenS | cause its not working :S |
| 22:31.18 | StephenS | now does BIOS have somethign to do with linux ? |
| 22:31.56 | babilen | Sure, BIOS settings affect every OS |
| 22:32.04 | karlpinc | StephenS: It definitely has to do with the bootloader. After that, it depends. |
| 22:32.16 | StephenS | I use grubloader |
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| 22:32.40 | StephenS | ok so I put in my headphones into yamaha suond card and I cant hear sound, why? |
| 22:32.43 | coppermine | which package does arecord and aplay belong to |
| 22:32.46 | karlpinc | StephenS: You haven't answered people's questions. |
| 22:32.58 | karlpinc | coppermine: Use apt-file to find out. |
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| 22:33.05 | babilen | brb |
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| 22:33.15 | StephenS | which one? |
| 22:33.17 | guest-9flqLG | helo ! |
| 22:33.20 | dvs | StephenS: check lsmod|grep ymfpci |
| 22:33.25 | dvs | third time |
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| 22:33.44 | StephenS | ok and now what? I got 7 results |
| 22:33.52 | batouzo | in debian 6.0 is the installer's partitioner working? |
| 22:34.04 | guest-9flqLG | how can i do change the password user between login |
| 22:34.10 | StephenS | also may I say when I run alsamixer and hit F6 I have only HDMI-ATI and NVIDIA sound card |
| 22:34.18 | karlpinc | batouzo: Sure. You could look for bugs in the bug tracking system, but yes. |
| 22:34.27 | StephenS | there is no yamaha card, and even when I had enabled azalia audio in BIOS it didnt showed up, why? :S |
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| 22:34.37 | guest-9flqLG | how can i do login root in tty between login username |
| 22:34.38 | batouzo | btrfs seems to not support usrquota? |
| 22:34.57 | guest-9flqLG | Steaven`, ! |
| 22:34.59 | karlpinc | guest-9flqLG: While you're logged in as a user? |
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| 22:35.07 | somiaj | StephenS: sounds like you don't have the right driver/module for that card |
| 22:35.18 | StephenS | yes and i checked lsmod |
| 22:35.40 | somiaj | StephenS: check .mplayer/ there is a config file there, I think your default sound option is set to pulse audio. change it |
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| 22:35.57 | batouzo | karlpinc: there is bug with random partition apparently |
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| 22:36.10 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, i used ( usermod -p miad miadbahramim) |
| 22:36.13 | StephenS | no |
| 22:36.19 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, and now |
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| 22:36.22 | StephenS | it wont work cause chrome and my pc doesnt work wihtout driver |
| 22:36.28 | StephenS | I need to install driver first and dunno how |
| 22:36.39 | StephenS | http://pastebin.com/JLQtvyPe |
| 22:36.52 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, i coud not login in user |
| 22:36.53 | batouzo | where can I quickly send bug reprot in debian 6.0 installer partitionar? |
| 22:37.14 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, how to change password user name |
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| 22:37.24 | karlpinc | guest-9flqLG: Yes. You broke the password. Login as root and type "passwd miad" to change the password of the 'miad' user. |
| 22:37.34 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, or login root in tty between login user |
| 22:37.53 | StephenS | what to do ? |
| 22:37.55 | somiaj | StephenS: dmesg | grep ymf |
| 22:38.06 | StephenS | nothing |
| 22:38.09 | somiaj | StephenS: the module loaded, see what dmesg says about the driver loading |
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| 22:38.18 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, i kepped the crtl+alt+f1 |
| 22:38.18 | StephenS | it said nothing |
| 22:38.20 | somiaj | StephenS: dmesg | less (try to find where it says it loaded the module) |
| 22:38.30 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, and need too login |
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| 22:38.51 | erawfish_ | why would a ati chipset use a yamaha chip for sound? |
| 22:39.43 | karlpinc | batouzo: Probably "reportbug debian-installer" but read the install guide at debian-org to be sure about what package to file the bug against. |
| 22:39.45 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, but i not login with the user and pass |
| 22:39.52 | somiaj | StephenS: http://wiki.debian.org/snd-ymfpci -- most likely you are just missing firmware for that card. You'll have to get it from non-free or download it. |
| 22:39.57 | karlpinc | guest-9flqLG: Can you login using the user "root"? |
| 22:40.37 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, no login incorrect |
| 22:40.39 | somiaj | StephenS: that page contains instructions on how to get that sound card working, looks lke you have to download and build the firmware. |
| 22:40.45 | StephenS | ok |
| 22:40.47 | StephenS | is that hard? |
| 22:40.54 | karlpinc | guest-9flqLG: Do you know the root password? |
| 22:41.00 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, yes |
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| 22:41.17 | grapsus | hi there |
| 22:41.29 | karlpinc | guest-9flqLG: You're runninng debian? |
| 22:41.45 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, Ubuntu 11.10 |
| 22:42.10 | karlpinc | guest-9flqLG: You'd do best getting help from the ubuntu folks then. Hang on. |
| 22:42.15 | karlpinc | !ubuntuirc guest-9flqLG |
| 22:42.15 | dpkg | guest-9flqLG: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 22:42.20 | dvs | StephenS: are following commands hard? |
| 22:42.21 | batouzo | it seems there is a debian bug reported only in ubuntu - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/545356 |
| 22:42.33 | grapsus | I have a very annoying problem with my soundcard on debian, and it works with ubuntu, it's the same version of ALSA, same options, it's driving me crazy |
| 22:42.37 | coppermine | how can I use the usb mic from my webcam if i dont have a sound card? i.e arecord -l shows arecord: device_list:235: no soundcards found... |
| 22:42.56 | coppermine | shoudl i run alsaconf and i will probe the usb webcam's mic? |
| 22:42.57 | StephenS | good |
| 22:43.03 | StephenS | now I havewhen I press F6 yamaha driver |
| 22:43.10 | StephenS | and volumes are ok but I cant still hear the music |
| 22:43.20 | somiaj | Have you told what ever player to use that sound card |
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| 22:43.35 | somiaj | mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=3.0 |
| 22:43.38 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, thanks a lot |
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| 22:44.11 | batouzo | will the 6.0 STABLE installer be fixed? parman is broken as in https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/debian/sid/partman-base/sid |
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| 22:45.50 | StephenS | mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=3.0 |
| 22:45.55 | StephenS | Audio no sound |
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| 22:47.04 | guest-9flqLG | karlpinc, I was not responding in ubuntu |
| 22:47.13 | jelly-home | batouzo: can you find you bug on http://bugs.debian.org/debian-installer ? Have you sent an installation report? |
| 22:47.29 | karlpinc | guest-9flqLG: We still can't help here because we don't know ubuntu. You might try #linux. |
| 22:47.29 | StephenS | not working |
| 22:47.53 | StephenS | what to DO? |
| 22:48.19 | somiaj | StephenS: make sure the device is actual 3.0. look at 'aplay -l' |
| 22:48.29 | StephenS | no i put it as 2 |
| 22:48.32 | StephenS | cause its 2 and not works |
| 22:48.46 | StephenS | should I restart something? |
| 22:49.05 | batouzo | jelly-home: didn't send yet. It is done manually by email or is there app? |
| 22:49.13 | coppermine | i did apt-get install alsa-utils but there's no alsaconf |
| 22:49.18 | coppermine | how can I have my usb mic detected? |
| 22:49.34 | somiaj | StephenS: well its card.devce. aplay -l will tell you the device number. Also did you follow the instructions and make the firmware, and copy it into place along with realoding the module? |
| 22:49.38 | batouzo | jelly-home: it is reported as debian bug in ubuntu but still not debian server I guess: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/debian/sid/partman-base/sid |
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| 22:49.54 | StephenS | yes all firmware is ok |
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| 22:50.23 | StephenS | its card 2 |
| 22:50.25 | StephenS | that is ok |
| 22:50.26 | jelly-home | batouzo: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04.html shows in 5.4.6 what a report should look like |
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| 22:51.00 | StephenS | analog stereo duplex is that ok? |
| 22:51.03 | JordiGH | The adobe reader installed a bunch of crap and now it shows up as the default app iceweasel uses to read pdfs. How do I exorcise this non-free crap? |
| 22:51.04 | jelly-home | batouzo: if you can see the particular bug number in launchpad, mention its URL |
| 22:51.07 | StephenS | I dont get whats wrong |
| 22:51.13 | somiaj | StephenS: check dmesg, make sure it loaded the frmware correct. Check the output of mplayer see why it can't load the sound. Don't just think no sound, use the logs and errors. try aplay. |
| 22:51.18 | JordiGH | I used Adobe's own installer, not Marillat's. :-( |
| 22:51.47 | fjd | My /home folder is using all the HDD space but i can't figure out with what |
| 22:51.57 | jelly-home | JordiGH: well does it have an uninstaller? |
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| 22:52.04 | fjd | What shold I do? |
| 22:52.04 | henchman24 | du -h --max-depth=0 |
| 22:52.09 | karlpinc | JordiGH: You read the installer script and undo what it did. Or run it's un-install option. Or ask for help from Adobe.... |
| 22:52.11 | henchman24 | /home/username |
| 22:52.16 | StephenS | [11564.916018] Yamaha DS-1 PCI 0000:01:06.0: firmware: requesting yamaha/ds1_dsp.fw |
| 22:52.16 | StephenS | [11564.943952] Yamaha DS-1 PCI 0000:01:06.0: firmware: requesting yamaha/ds1e_ctrl.fw |
| 22:52.23 | StephenS | firmware is ok |
| 22:52.23 | fjd | henchman24: 1.8G . |
| 22:52.25 | JordiGH | Ah, it does have an uninstaller. |
| 22:52.27 | henchman24 | should show you what folders are eating the most space |
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| 22:52.39 | fjd | henchman24: Apparently "." is, but there's no files in there that are that large. |
| 22:52.42 | henchman24 | try max depth 1 |
| 22:52.46 | JordiGH | Fuck, I erased the uninstaller. |
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| 22:52.57 | henchman24 | wait 2GB is filling your home !? |
| 22:52.59 | JordiGH | How does iceweasel know what apps to use? |
| 22:53.07 | somiaj | JordiGH: its just a config option somewhere in there |
| 22:53.07 | henchman24 | /home/usernamesmall drive yo |
| 22:53.15 | fjd | henchman24: cheap vps |
| 22:53.19 | fjd | $35/year |
| 22:53.20 | henchman24 | ah |
| 22:53.30 | fjd | henchman24: http://djf.me.uk/1.txt |
| 22:53.44 | somiaj | JordiGH: look for applications, usually the app is set via the mime-type |
| 22:53.45 | fjd | i c now |
| 22:53.45 | henchman24 | 1.7G./error.log |
| 22:53.45 | StephenS | here: AO: [alsa] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) |
| 22:53.46 | fjd | lol |
| 22:53.48 | JordiGH | lol |
| 22:53.52 | henchman24 | thats a big log yo |
| 22:53.53 | fjd | henchman24: someone on this box is running some shitty php scripts |
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| 22:54.14 | henchman24 | there is your proble, |
| 22:54.14 | StephenS | Whats wrong with my driver card! !! |
| 22:54.30 | StephenS | sound card I am ' |
| 22:54.48 | henchman24 | yeah turn debugging logs off or severly limit their size |
| 22:54.52 | somiaj | StephenS: /msg dpkg alsa-checklist [try to play something with aplay] |
| 22:55.10 | henchman24 | to most recent activity and only fatal type errors |
| 22:55.22 | fjd | henchman24: I didn't notice it because my eyes went past the log files, lol. |
| 22:55.27 | fjd | I never thought such a thing would occur |
| 22:55.32 | fjd | i was checking my www folder etc. |
| 22:55.33 | fjd | thanks man |
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| 22:55.36 | fjd | didnt know of --max-depth |
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| 22:55.54 | henchman24 | next time ls -lh (human readable and list will show you files/sizes |
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| 22:56.12 | StephenS | how ot set default sound card? |
| 22:56.14 | henchman24 | otherwise i think du goes forever depth |
| 22:56.36 | P51^ | Hi everyone, i am trying to create a Debian Live USB but i keep failing lol, can anyone tell me what would be the correct way ? Ive tried on tons of ways but i dont know what im doing wrong... |
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| 22:56.51 | henchman24 | i use --max-depth=0 or 1 often |
| 22:57.15 | henchman24 | comes in handy when you want to locate whats eating space |
| 22:57.15 | somiaj | P51^: are you trying to create a custom live image, or just using one of the premade ones? |
| 22:57.38 | P51^ | A premade one, i am trying to get Debian with LXDE desktop on my pc |
| 22:57.54 | P51^ | but im trying for hours now |
| 22:58.01 | P51^ | and i just cant get it to work :/ |
| 22:58.14 | somiaj | P51^: its just an .iso? I thought they were all usb boot ready, you can just cat or dd the iso onto your usb device |
| 22:58.25 | Blackvel | hey all. got a .txt file of packages (names). is there any easy way to let a script verify that each package really exists and can be installed by apt-get install? or would apt-get install command tell me final that x, y, z packages could not be installed when I just run it? |
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| 22:58.29 | P51^ | i used dd to put it on a usb |
| 22:58.31 | P51^ | but it just didnt boot |
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| 22:58.48 | P51^ | if i create a live usb from another distro it does work |
| 22:59.00 | dvs | StephenS: options <module> index=1 |
| 22:59.09 | StephenS | module ? |
| 22:59.20 | dvs | ymf.. whatever |
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| 22:59.42 | Blackvel | oh...apt-get tells at the end that package x y z was unable to locate |
| 22:59.46 | StephenS | aplay options ymf index=2 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav |
| 22:59.47 | dvs | in /etc/modprobe.d dir |
| 22:59.53 | StephenS | I cant stand this crap anymore |
| 22:59.55 | StephenS | it wont WORK!@ |
| 22:59.58 | P51^ | trying again |
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| 23:01.12 | erawfish_ | StephenS: have you already created the firmware? and verified that the driver loads it? |
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| 23:01.43 | StephenS | yes and yes |
| 23:01.51 | StephenS | but azalia is disabled in bios |
| 23:01.55 | StephenS | maybe thats a problem? |
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| 23:02.11 | henchman24 | dont you want to use the fancy audio!? |
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| 23:02.24 | P51^ | hmmm |
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| 23:02.29 | P51^ | didnt work :/ |
| 23:02.42 | P51^ | Anyone know the best way to create a debian liveusb ? |
| 23:02.47 | erawfish_ | P51^: do you want to put a live system on usb or install from usb? |
| 23:02.48 | StephenS | fancy audiuo? |
| 23:02.56 | P51^ | install from usb |
| 23:03.06 | somiaj | P51^: did you download a iso-hybrid image? |
| 23:03.07 | erawfish_ | P51^: which iso do you use? |
| 23:03.16 | somiaj | P51^: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ |
| 23:03.21 | StephenS | what ot do? |
| 23:03.26 | StephenS | ok restar to enale azalia |
| 23:03.35 | erawfish_ | somiaj: that's a live system, not for installing debian, even if you can |
| 23:03.36 | StephenS | should I enable azalia would someone answer me? |
| 23:03.54 | P51^ | somiaj, i am trying a iso from there yes |
| 23:03.59 | somiaj | erawfish_: isn't that what he is asking for? |
| 23:04.09 | babilen | somiaj: Why the live image? |
| 23:04.22 | P51^ | the lxde one |
| 23:04.23 | babilen | ah, ok |
| 23:04.43 | erawfish_ | P51^: do you want to install debian to your harddisk? |
| 23:04.44 | P51^ | well ive installed other distros from inside the live image |
| 23:04.47 | P51^ | yes |
| 23:04.54 | P51^ | i want to install but only with lxde desktop |
| 23:04.54 | somiaj | P51^ is asking how to make a live usb. I thought he ment the hybrd live images. |
| 23:04.59 | erawfish_ | P51^: then don't use a debian live cd but use a debian installer iso |
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| 23:05.12 | dvs | StephenS: echo "options snd-ymfpci index=0" > /etc/modprobe.d/yamaha.conf |
| 23:05.15 | erawfish_ | somiaj: no he's not |
| 23:05.25 | babilen | P51^: Do you have a working internet connection during the install? Is it wired? Which encryption is used if not? |
| 23:05.38 | P51^ | wired connection |
| 23:05.43 | StephenS | ok and whats next? |
| 23:05.44 | P51^ | and its connected |
| 23:05.47 | erawfish_ | P51^: then use a debian CD1 with lxde |
| 23:05.52 | dvs | StephenS: reboot |
| 23:05.53 | babilen | P51^: Ok, in that case you can use the netinstall images to install Debian |
| 23:06.02 | P51^ | i only need CD1 ? |
| 23:06.04 | StephenS | ok and to enable azalia or not? |
| 23:06.07 | babilen | !tell P51^ -about netinstall |
| 23:06.09 | erawfish_ | or use a netinst and install lxde after installation and don't install the desktop environment at installation |
| 23:06.14 | StephenS | dvs ? |
| 23:06.15 | babilen | !tell P51^ about install lxde |
| 23:06.22 | babilen | !tell P51^ -about usb install |
| 23:06.29 | P51^ | hehehe |
| 23:06.44 | StephenS | ??? |
| 23:06.46 | StephenS | dvs ?? |
| 23:07.01 | erawfish_ | P51^: the important part is: do not use a debian live iso as you triued until now. apart from that you can use any debian installer iso |
| 23:07.18 | babilen | erawfish_: You can select which desktop environment you want to install with the netinstall as well. For LXDE you would " select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > LXDE > Install" in debian-installer's menu |
| 23:07.41 | P51^ | i only saw the live one with lxde only thats why choose that one :D |
| 23:07.58 | P51^ | okay |
| 23:08.04 | StephenS | ok rebooting |
| 23:08.08 | StephenS | bnc ON me=off |
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| 23:09.36 | dvs | StephenS: Don't /msg me |
| 23:09.43 | babilen | P51^: You can also use CD1 with LXDE (i.e. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.3-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso for amd64) |
| 23:09.53 | homushi | hello, is there a way to know package's license with aptitude without installing it? |
| 23:10.00 | babilen | P51^: But see dpkg's messages as that is not necessary. |
| 23:10.03 | homushi | aptitude show doesn't show any license information |
| 23:10.40 | StephenS | back from reboot and |
| 23:10.50 | P51^ | yeah |
| 23:10.52 | StephenS | my sound card is gone when I open alsamixer i dont see yamaha driver, why ? |
| 23:10.53 | P51^ | i will use netinst |
| 23:10.56 | StephenS | :S |
| 23:10.58 | P51^ | thanks |
| 23:10.58 | StephenS | is it possible that whole my work is gone ? :S |
| 23:11.26 | StephenS | ???????? |
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| 23:13.22 | StephenS | HELLO |
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| 23:15.14 | erawfish_ | StephenS: cause it might be a azalia soundcard now which uses snd-hda-intel like all the others? |
| 23:16.20 | StephenS | nah |
| 23:16.28 | StephenS | now it wont even load yamaha driver damn it |
| 23:17.04 | homushi | excuse me for being obtrisove, but i think that license information is an important part of a package-manager, in terms of Debian's way. apt-get doesn't show license information as well |
| 23:17.08 | StephenS | off |
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| 23:17.15 | homushi | obtrusive* |
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| 23:17.59 | jfb86 | hello |
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| 23:18.20 | jfb86 | is there anyone who's running mondo? |
| 23:18.28 | erawfish_ | !tell jfb86 about anyone |
| 23:20.05 | jfb86 | i want to know if there were problems with mondo on deb5 |
| 23:20.07 | babilen | homushi: Could you file a wishlist bug against apt for that please? |
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| 23:21.04 | babilen | jfb86: Why Debian 5 and not 6? What is mondo? Have you tried it and do you run into problems? |
| 23:21.13 | homushi | babilen: sure |
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| 23:21.28 | babilen | homushi: Thanks, I totally agree with you btw. |
| 23:21.46 | P51^ | lol i think im giving up, i dont understand why but debian just gives me a black screen and doesnt boot, i tried to create any bootable usb from .iso and .imo files, i even download debisn in .tar.gz and extract it to a usb stick |
| 23:21.47 | homushi | nice to hear that :) |
| 23:21.50 | P51^ | its killing me |
| 23:22.08 | erawfish_ | P51^: what hardware? hybrid graphics? |
| 23:22.08 | babilen | P51^: How do you create the stick? |
| 23:22.09 | dname | how to set the time? need to convert 1 hour ago time. through the console |
| 23:22.21 | erawfish_ | dname: man date |
| 23:22.37 | babilen | !tell dname about ntp |
| 23:22.40 | P51^ | babilen, ive tried to create it on a ubuntu and windows system, using some automatic tools and i did it from linux |
| 23:22.41 | erawfish_ | dname: but maybe your timezone is set wrongly or your BIOS clock is. |
| 23:22.50 | P51^ | extraced manually, dd_rescue |
| 23:22.51 | P51^ | etc |
| 23:22.59 | erawfish_ | P51^: the only way you do it is to use dd or cat under any linux |
| 23:23.11 | P51^ | erawfish_, a laptop, eMachines E725 |
| 23:23.13 | erawfish_ | P51^: please answer my question above |
| 23:23.24 | P51^ | duocore 2GHz |
| 23:23.24 | dname | I installed Debian on VirtualBox |
| 23:23.25 | jfb86 | mondo is mondorescue, known to make iso rescue for your entire system. i used it under deb4, i add sources in the apt for deb5 but seems not supported or i made an error. another solution to generate isorescue for the system instead of mondo? thx |
| 23:23.29 | erawfish_ | P51^: not brand names. technical info |
| 23:23.31 | babilen | dname: You should make sure that your timezone is configured correctly (dpkg-reconfigure tzdata) and that your system clock is set correctly. I would also strongly recommend to run ntp. |
| 23:23.41 | P51^ | no good GFX card, not even sure about the GFX card |
| 23:23.42 | P51^ | :P |
| 23:23.44 | judgen | how much faster is a powerbook 1.67ghz than a intel P4 2ghz laptop? I know the ram is alot faster but still. |
| 23:23.52 | P51^ | 3RAM DDR3 |
| 23:23.55 | P51^ | 3GB |
| 23:23.56 | P51^ | i mean |
| 23:23.57 | P51^ | heheh |
| 23:24.06 | babilen | dname: You can use wither ntpdate or "ntpd -q" to force a clock sync. |
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| 23:24.12 | somiaj | homushi: think apt-file could get that info....though it probablay will only tell you /usr/share/doc/copyright exists, but not its contents. |
| 23:24.24 | erawfish_ | P51^: what videocard? |
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| 23:24.40 | dname | If I have Debian on Virtual Box installed, it still takes time to change the BIOS? |
| 23:24.42 | StephenS | why now i cant install firmware? |
| 23:25.15 | erawfish_ | dname: check your timezone first |
| 23:25.35 | babilen | P51^: On which host system? In which timezone are you? Is the system clock set to UTC or local time? (the latter is typically what windows likes) |
| 23:25.36 | erawfish_ | P51^: what is the last thing you see before the screen goes black= |
| 23:25.37 | erawfish_ | ? |
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| 23:25.44 | P51^ | ohh well, forget it, i wanted to check out Debian, ive been installing Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Mandriva, BackTrack, etc, i just wondered why debian didnt work |
| 23:25.47 | erawfish_ | babilen: wrong nick |
| 23:25.49 | babilen | P51^: Argh, sorry. ENICK |
| 23:25.59 | babilen | dname^: On which host system? In which timezone are you? Is the system clock set to UTC or local time? (the latter is typically what windows likes) |
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| 23:26.27 | P51^ | erawfish_, i see the first screen where you can go to the bios |
| 23:26.30 | P51^ | and then it turns black |
| 23:26.32 | P51^ | and thats it |
| 23:26.34 | judgen | on osx some apps still are slower on my macbook than on my powerbook. Even on debian this is the case. |
| 23:26.34 | jfb86 | dname : dpkg -i ntp, then change /etc/ntp.conf to set the first line as 0.fr.ntp.pool.ntp.org (fr for france, the rest depends on your country..) :) |
| 23:26.34 | dname | +9 timezone |
| 23:26.47 | P51^ | i tried multiple iso's, different usb sticks |
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| 23:26.58 | judgen | and the dual core intel gets beaten by a old cpu |
| 23:27.00 | jfb86 | 0.fr.pool.ntp.org... sorry |
| 23:27.02 | P51^ | used FAT, FAT32 and EXT4 as fs on the usb |
| 23:27.05 | StephenS | yeah I quit |
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| 23:27.13 | StephenS | I guess Ill never have yamaha sound :S |
| 23:27.30 | P51^ | and i just cant figure out what is wrong |
| 23:27.37 | babilen | dname: So, your timezone is set correctly? Could you install ntp and run "ntpd -q" please? |
| 23:27.52 | erawfish_ | P51^: you are not supposed to use ANY filesystem on the usb. the way to create a bootable netinst iso is cat file.iso > /dev/sdc or whatever. NOT onto a partition but the whole stick |
| 23:27.53 | jfb86 | babilen : :) |
| 23:28.02 | P51^ | yeah |
| 23:28.12 | P51^ | i did it with dd_rescue but i can try cat also |
| 23:28.31 | babilen | dname: BTW, "dpkg -i ntp" will most likely not install ntp on your system. Use "apt-get install ntp" instead |
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| 23:28.53 | erawfish_ | P51^: which iso filename did you use? |
| 23:29.09 | jfb86 | dname : babilen is right, excuse me, apt-get install instead.. sorry... |
| 23:29.15 | babilen | np |
| 23:29.20 | jfb86 | thx |
| 23:29.36 | babilen | jfb86: That's why we are more than one person in here :) |
| 23:30.17 | jfb86 | lol :) you're right, that's our power! :) |
| 23:30.24 | dname | entered the command "ntpd-q". Nothing has brought |
| 23:30.29 | P51^ | debian-6.0.3-i386-netinst.iso,, debian-6.0.3-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso,, debian-live-6.0.3-i386-lxde-desktop.img,, debian-live-6.0.3-i386-lxde-desktop.iso |
| 23:30.36 | P51^ | those ive tried |
| 23:30.37 | P51^ | lol |
| 23:30.48 | P51^ | and the .tar.gz file |
| 23:31.12 | jfb86 | /etc/init.d/ntpd restart after modifying the line 0.us.pool.ntp.org |
| 23:32.23 | dname | thanks =) figured out |
| 23:32.25 | babilen | jfb86: The default config with "server {0,1,2,3}.debian.pool.ntp.org iburs" should work, shouldn't it? |
| 23:32.34 | babilen | iburst* |
| 23:32.42 | jfb86 | dname: ok :) |
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| 23:33.23 | babilen | Nothing wrong with 0.us.pool.ntp.org though (if you are in the USA) |
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| 23:35.18 | jfb86 | babilen: it depends, in france i change the line to 0.fr.pool.ntp.org, i restart the service and everything's working. i leave the other lines as they are. after the ntp restart, have a look tail -f /var/log/syslog, and time has to be synchronized, i always do that with no problems |
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| 23:36.08 | fjd | Is it dangerous to symlink /var/www/example to ~/example ? |
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| 23:36.42 | koshieFinalReliz | Hi |
| 23:36.56 | tomodachi | fjd: dont think its deadly , but if you want a part of your web-site to be un your homefolder |
| 23:37.03 | tomodachi | fjd: why not just use the apache module for it? |
| 23:37.11 | fjd | tomodachi: Using Lightttpd. |
| 23:37.13 | fjd | Lighttpd* |
| 23:37.23 | fjd | And with the way a module for vhosts work, it's a lot easier to do this |
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| 23:40.15 | babilen | fjd: I would be quite surprised if lighthttp wouldn't support userdir's as well. |
| 23:41.17 | jfb86 | what time is it in your countries? here in france 00:41 |
| 23:41.27 | jfb86 | and not tired... lol |
| 23:41.49 | fjd | jfb86: 23:41 in England. I am tired. |
| 23:41.51 | curfont | ok something wrong with this version of mdadm |
| 23:42.12 | jfb86 | fjd: courage!! |
| 23:42.13 | curfont | Whenever I try to make a raid5 array of 3 disks, it always makes one of them a spare |
| 23:42.13 | fjd | babilen: I will look into it. It's just that this "ghetto" method has worked for me for a while, and I wanted to make sure people thought it was safe before I told a person about it. ;) |
| 23:42.17 | curfont | (the last one in the argument list) |
| 23:42.29 | babilen | fjd: About what? ;) |
| 23:42.47 | fjd | babilen: lol winky face -- http://djf.me.uk/koshie.txt |
| 23:43.28 | babilen | fjd: Why don't you just use /var/www? |
| 23:43.41 | fjd | babilen: because then you would have to edit/move the files as root? |
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| 23:44.03 | mguy | Is there a recommendation for a Debian VPS host? |
| 23:44.19 | jfb86 | curfont: be more precise please? i ever did it but is it hardware or software RAID5? |
| 23:44.21 | fjd | mguy: http://ramhost.us/ -- they own http://tinyvz.com/ nd http://tinykvm.com/ |
| 23:44.26 | babilen | mguy: Lots, gandi, linode, .. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianHosting |
| 23:44.35 | curfont | jfb86: It's mdadm |
| 23:45.01 | mguy | fjd, babilen : thanks! |
| 23:45.04 | fjd | ^^ |
| 23:45.09 | jfb86 | you have to add arguments to the kernel boot before installing, like dmraid=true |
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| 23:45.14 | babilen | fjd: I don't quite see the problem with that though. But well |
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| 23:45.32 | curfont | jfb86: .. huh? This isn't hardware raid.. |
| 23:45.47 | SupaYoshi | Hey, im trying to let fail2ban start up automatilcy but cant get it working |
| 23:45.48 | curfont | The problem is just that it forces one to be spare, when it shouldn't (since I say spares=0) |
| 23:45.54 | fjd | babilen: i have multiple users, so i give them all their own ~/www, i dont want them all having root |
| 23:45.57 | SupaYoshi | with cronjob |
| 23:45.57 | fjd | for obvious reasons |
| 23:45.58 | babilen | dname: Is the time correct? |
| 23:46.30 | babilen | fjd: Seriously: http://redmine.lighttpd.net/wiki/1/Docs:ModUserDir |
| 23:47.12 | SupaYoshi | http://pastebin.com/9ppfn97N |
| 23:47.14 | fjd | babilen: ty |
| 23:47.34 | jfb86 | curfont: yes but i had the case with a Proliant (fakeraid), and this directive helped me, like (as you said) mdadm=true. but you have to do it at the install time, that's what i tried. it depends on the hardware, unfortunately |
| 23:48.09 | jfb86 | try the 2 directives? |
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| 23:49.51 | jfb86 | i forgot.. directives separately try dmraid=true, look... and try another boot with mdadm=true |
| 23:50.29 | erawfish_ | SupaYoshi: if you install it normally with apt-get like any other package it runs automatically |
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| 23:51.09 | Jef91 | where are post install file located on an installed system for packages apt is getting? I know it is in /var somewhere |
| 23:51.38 | erawfish_ | Jef91: /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postinst |
| 23:51.57 | jfb86 | jef91 : locate *.postinst |
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| 23:52.29 | SupaYoshi | anyone know whats wrong with my cronjob? |
| 23:52.36 | jfb86 | erawish: :) |
| 23:53.09 | jfb86 | SupaYoshi: crontab -l |
| 23:53.41 | SupaYoshi | ? i just gave u the crontab? |
| 23:53.55 | SupaYoshi | :P http://pastebin.com/9ppfn97N |
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| 23:55.24 | jfb86 | SupaYoshi: are the rights correctly positionned on your ...sh? |
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| 23:55.41 | SupaYoshi | ehm, the start.sh works |
| 23:55.51 | SupaYoshi | so thats not the problem thats for something else anyway |
| 23:55.55 | SupaYoshi | fail2ban just needs to start |
| 23:56.02 | SupaYoshi | do i need to make an sh file for that aswell? |
| 23:56.12 | SupaYoshi | i just need to start the service :P haha |
| 23:57.04 | jfb86 | SupaYoshi: creat a script and place it in the runlevel, most simple? what do you think about it? |
| 23:57.17 | SupaYoshi | :P thanks |
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