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| 00:01.41 | mmm4m5m | hi. This is debian squeeze(xfce) with nvidia non-free. Desktop works nice (glxgears) but inside Xephyr - it is slow. What is wrong? I am missing something... |
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| 00:09.23 | guidov | I am SSHing to a box with two wireless network adapters, both of which are connected to a wireless network by NetworkManager, and I need to disconnect one of them (but not bring the interface down). how do I do this? |
| 00:10.52 | se7 | guidov: there is nothing to disconnect :) |
| 00:11.01 | guidov | how do you mean? |
| 00:11.23 | se7 | well like, there's no cable that you could unplug, if that is what you would mean by disconnect |
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| 00:11.49 | guidov | i need one wireless network interface to to disconnect from the wireless network it is connected to |
| 00:12.17 | guidov | usually I would just click on the network manager in x windows and disconnect it, but i don't have physical nor visual access to it now |
| 00:12.18 | se7 | set the essid to something that won't exist |
| 00:13.05 | guidov | i can't, because I can't access network manager now |
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| 00:13.29 | guidov | moreover, both wireless adapters are connected to the same wireless network, and one of them has to continue otherwise I lose my SSH connection |
| 00:13.29 | se7 | well use iwconfig |
| 00:13.47 | guidov | ok, checking that |
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| 00:13.55 | se7 | tough luck switching then |
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| 00:43.10 | asubrama | Hi |
| 00:43.19 | asubrama | need help with a net installation |
| 00:43.38 | asubrama | Installation is halted with the following error in vt4: |
| 00:43.49 | asubrama | mirror does not support the specified release (wheezy) |
| 00:44.09 | asubrama | tips on how to proceed? |
| 00:44.59 | asubrama | reads topic, takes question to debian-next |
| 00:45.58 | asubrama | oh. +i |
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| 00:53.15 | infernix | grr. upgraded a box from lenny to squeeze, but somehow udev isn't making sd[ab]* device nodes anymore |
| 00:53.21 | infernix | the kernel definitely sees the disks |
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| 00:55.53 | se7 | update udev. |
| 00:56.41 | infernix | to a version newer than what's in squeeze? |
| 00:56.59 | asubrama | I was able to download the net installer from this very mirror |
| 00:57.10 | asubrama | why can't I use the mirror during net install? |
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| 00:57.17 | asubrama | in fact, NONE of the mirrors works |
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| 00:57.39 | infernix | i can just MAKEDEV sd in /tmp and move over the device nodes and continue booting |
| 00:57.49 | infernix | but i'm at a loss why udev stopped making the device nodes |
| 00:57.53 | se7 | infernix: usually no; just in case you are in a half-updated system |
| 00:57.57 | infernix | there isnt even a /dev/disk |
| 00:58.03 | se7 | infernix: then udev probably was not even started |
| 00:58.12 | infernix | def not; did dist-upgrade a few tiemsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| 00:58.16 | infernix | whoops |
| 00:58.20 | infernix | udev is definitely running |
| 00:58.45 | infernix | 164-3 is the version that's in there, and that's in squeeze |
| 01:00.19 | infernix | ok so restarting udev doesn't make any /dev/disk/* either |
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| 01:00.26 | infernix | what the what >.< |
| 01:00.49 | se7 | udevadm trigger |
| 01:01.01 | se7 | udev does not create devs just by starting; it requires kernel events |
| 01:01.11 | asubrama | linux is free for those who don't value their time. |
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| 01:01.50 | infernix | it's just not making the devices |
| 01:02.01 | infernix | the lenny install before did it just fine, with a 3.0.3 kernel |
| 01:02.17 | se7 | oh so you _do_ run a non-default kernel |
| 01:02.30 | infernix | i have to on this box |
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| 01:03.07 | infernix | but as i said, life was great before the upgrade to squeeze. and the other dozen boxes i did this upgrade on, also with custom kernels, didn't exhibit this problem |
| 01:03.19 | infernix | so i wonder what's so off on this one |
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| 01:03.58 | infernix | mm maybe it's the deprecated sysfs option in .conf |
| 01:03.59 | infernix | ig |
| 01:04.20 | infernix | ah. i bet it is. *recompiles* |
| 01:04.52 | TJNII | iirc that option does hork udev |
| 01:05.03 | TJNII | It's been a while, though. |
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| 01:05.44 | TJNII | Also make sure you're not using the old ATA drivers anymore. udev won't tolerate them anymore, gotta go sata. |
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| 01:10.09 | dsdeiz | hi how do i set the x-terminal-emulator to urxvtc using update-alternatives? |
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| 01:22.41 | infernix | meh, that's not it :| |
| 01:22.42 | infernix | or wait |
| 01:22.43 | tsanhwa | hi, after last upgrade, I always encounter the following warning when apt-installing: /usr/bin/mandb: iconv_open ("UTF-8//IGNORE", "ISO-8859-1"): Invalid argument |
| 01:22.43 | tsanhwa | and some packages even can't be installed |
| 01:22.44 | infernix | rebooted but still active in /proc/config, guess i hosed the recompile. make clean now :> |
| 01:22.52 | tsanhwa | and I also find that "iconv --list" output much much shorter than before |
| 01:22.52 | infernix | nah, it's a dell DRAC so it's scsi |
| 01:22.52 | infernix | err, dell RAID |
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| 01:24.39 | Guest5002 | hi, i'm running into E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgstreamer0.10-0'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) on a squeeze to unstable dist-upgrade |
| 01:25.00 | philipballew | Will debian 6 run on PA-RISC |
| 01:25.19 | Guest5002 | and a -f install -o APT:Immediate-Configure=0 isn't solving |
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| 01:26.56 | IsoLnCHiP | Hi, Im currently trying to migrate a Xen Setup from one Computer to another. I initally set it up on a laptop with a intel celeron cpu and now want to run it on a via c3, I just swapped the harddrives and now when I try to boot the xen kernel the computer just reboots after the loading initramfs line. Am I missing something obvious? (Ive allready tryed regenerating the initramfs on the now cpu multiple times |
| 01:27.38 | infernix | argh. that's not it |
| 01:27.41 | infernix | what the whaaat >.< |
| 01:28.04 | infernix | time to debug udev |
| 01:28.16 | TJNII | ...and down the rabbit hole he goes.... |
| 01:29.28 | infernix | i mean /sys/block/sd[ab]* all exists |
| 01:29.30 | infernix | facepalms |
| 01:29.40 | infernix | this shit at 2:30 am >.< |
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| 01:32.20 | infernix | udevadm trigger doesn't even make udev consider the sdX devices, while the loopX block devices do get hit |
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| 01:34.09 | infernix | squeeze default kernel, my money's on you. hear my prayers. |
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| 01:35.27 | infernix | yep. it's def something with my kernel config |
| 01:35.37 | infernix | fades into the shadows |
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| 01:40.30 | rawsted | fr3nk: know of a way to retrieve the current timeout setting? |
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| 01:43.09 | CptnSpaulding | ber/wc |
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| 01:57.52 | dym | Hey - im probably having a little logic problem but maybe someone can help. I have the following situation: Internet <-> Public IP Modem/Switch 192.168.2.1 <-> 192.168.2.129 Gateway 10.1.25.22 <-> Switch <-> 10.1.25.20 W-Lan Accesspoint <-> 10.1.25.50 Client - I have set routes on the Gateway pointing to the Modem/Switch - now when i try to ping the Modem i cannot reach it. TCPdump shows me that the icmp packages arrive on the gateway, are relayed via the ri |
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| 02:03.45 | geek-br | dpkg: nolasco? |
| 02:03.46 | dpkg | geek-br: i haven't a clue |
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| 02:04.08 | geek-br | dpkg: not a problem, I thought it was an old friend |
| 02:04.09 | dpkg | geek-br: wish i knew |
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| 02:04.24 | geek-br | :-) |
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| 02:05.47 | infernix | sooo, 3.0.3 custom built works fine. 3.1.2 with the same config doesn't. |
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| 02:06.30 | infernix | why i even bothered getting the latest is beyond me :> |
| 02:06.47 | boudiccas | infernix; stick with stable it just works [TM] |
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| 02:11.33 | se7 | Is there something like debuginfo-debugsource packages for debian? |
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| 02:18.55 | be-hoogo-bah | when will debian move ahead and simply copy pacman? |
| 02:18.59 | be-hoogo-bah | :) |
| 02:19.07 | be-hoogo-bah | blam! |
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| 02:23.39 | phogg | be-hoogo-bah: don't be vulgar |
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| 02:24.52 | be-hoogo-bah | wouldn't dream of it my good man |
| 02:25.04 | fr3nk | rawsted: idk. there must be a way to get it |
| 02:25.21 | fr3nk | rawsted: why do you want to get it btw |
| 02:25.31 | fr3nk | rawsted: just set it to a desired value and you're done |
| 02:25.50 | yagoo | be-hoogo-bah, install debian and stfu.. because i know you're not using it. |
| 02:25.52 | yagoo | pff |
| 02:28.59 | be-hoogo-bah | hell no im not |
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| 02:29.16 | ZekeS | soon I shall have debian installed |
| 02:29.19 | ZekeS | wheee |
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| 02:30.18 | GordonFreeman | is this bad? |
| 02:30.19 | GordonFreeman | [ 84.730314] audit: name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:06, inode=6298 |
| 02:31.35 | be-hoogo-bah | www.archlinux.org obsoleted debian 4 years+ ago |
| 02:31.42 | be-hoogo-bah | openbsd.org also nice |
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| 02:33.11 | dioz | cool story |
| 02:33.31 | dioz | i personally like toy story tho |
| 02:33.35 | dioz | so idc wtf u say |
| 02:33.37 | tsanhwa | hi, after an upgrade, "iconv --list" outputs much much shorter, why |
| 02:33.58 | tsanhwa | I am using testing |
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| 02:40.42 | rawsted | fr3nk: i'm trying to determine what the default (from-the-factory) setting is |
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| 02:45.33 | An-iSociaL | im afaid im having a little issue |
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| 02:45.59 | An-iSociaL | i setup debian then manually setup xfce4 afterwrads, i cannot figure out how to make it auto-start |
| 02:46.11 | An-iSociaL | the system never runs passed runlevel 2 |
| 02:46.15 | An-iSociaL | can anyone help? |
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| 03:01.09 | Floodman | Hhhhh. |
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| 03:01.26 | centHOGG | ... |
| 03:01.27 | nevyn | hrm |
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| 03:11.43 | yagoo | lol |
| 03:11.50 | yagoo | run level run!!!!! |
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| 03:16.11 | dsdeiz | hi, how do i set x-terminal-emulator to urxvtc using update-alternatives? |
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| 03:18.40 | blackshirt | Floodman: keep your polite man |
| 03:18.56 | centHOGG | ok ... lets dig here up Floodman |
| 03:19.02 | centHOGG | here = her |
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| 03:23.31 | Floodman | We rats. |
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| 03:46.58 | cdahmedeh | you know some important files have been corrupted after you have every program segfaulting and various xserver crashes |
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| 03:48.22 | cdahmedeh | for some reason, i have a scary feeling that my hard drive is going to crash soon |
| 03:48.48 | TJNII | dmesg say anything interesting? |
| 03:49.32 | cdahmedeh | lots of segfaults |
| 03:49.45 | arghx | do a long SMART test |
| 03:49.48 | dvs | cdahmedeh: good timing.... not |
| 03:49.59 | cdahmedeh | i should try reinstall glibc and company |
| 03:49.59 | fr3nk | i had lots of segfaults when i had bad mem |
| 03:50.10 | cdahmedeh | i did one, and it passes |
| 03:50.15 | cdahmedeh | i don't believe it |
| 03:50.18 | cdahmedeh | so i did backups |
| 03:50.38 | dioz | cdahmedeh: same |
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| 03:51.15 | dioz | it's the hdd in my 700mhz p3 compaq laptop that functions as a firewall/leech box |
| 03:51.33 | arghx | could just as well be RAM going bad for example |
| 03:51.36 | dioz | 10gb 5400 rpm 2.5" laptop drive |
| 03:51.44 | cdahmedeh | yeah it's hard to tell |
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| 03:52.04 | cdahmedeh | i think glibc or something is corrupted |
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| 03:53.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peps is RAGGLE rss reader in the repos?? |
| 03:53.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | peeps |
| 03:54.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | i checked dpkg and it said no |
| 03:54.13 | cdahmedeh | let's see if this works |
| 03:54.17 | cdahmedeh | be back soon |
| 03:54.22 | arghx | !tell Eryn_1983_FL about search |
| 03:55.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
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| 03:55.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah i tried most of that |
| 03:55.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | care to recommend another rss reader? |
| 03:56.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | would rather not have to compile for this.. |
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| 03:57.35 | cdahmedeh | btw, any way to tail -f dmesg? |
| 03:57.40 | cdahmedeh | what log file is dmesg anyways? |
| 03:57.50 | arghx | kern.log |
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| 03:58.01 | arghx | but dmesg doesn't use that of course |
| 03:58.41 | cdahmedeh | yeah kern.log has date stamps, and requires root access |
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| 03:59.31 | arghx | man dmesg |
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| 04:00.55 | cdahmedeh | thanks arghx for the info |
| 04:02.34 | cdahmedeh | TJNII, thanks for reminding about peeking in dmesg |
| 04:02.43 | cdahmedeh | segfaults pointed to glibc |
| 04:02.45 | cdahmedeh | reinstalled the packge |
| 04:02.49 | cdahmedeh | and so far, no crashes |
| 04:04.30 | cdahmedeh | what other useful built in help ressources are there in linux? i know of man, info and apropos |
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| 04:04.40 | cdahmedeh | anything else i should know about? |
| 04:05.39 | arghx | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.49 | cdahmedeh | gotta love that directory |
| 04:06.56 | cdahmedeh | it's funny how big it is though |
| 04:07.01 | cdahmedeh | the tex docs alone are like 1gb |
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| 04:12.19 | centHOGG | why god made the internet |
| 04:12.33 | cdahmedeh | of course |
| 04:12.39 | cdahmedeh | i wonder what internet speeds we have in heaven... |
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| 04:13.15 | photon | ask the Bible. |
| 04:13.32 | cdahmedeh | but the bible is an inanimate object |
| 04:13.34 | cdahmedeh | how does that work? |
| 04:13.38 | centHOGG | somewhere in deutronomony |
| 04:13.55 | cdahmedeh | does the bible still apply to me if i'm not christian? |
| 04:14.12 | cdahmedeh | or is there a seperate internet plan per religion |
| 04:14.14 | cdahmedeh | in heaven... |
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| 04:16.13 | mosno | centHOGG, so we can look up Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins debates on YouTube? :P |
| 04:16.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peps i got alot of files on my /etc/apt/conf.d/* |
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| 04:16.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | where do i put my http dl limit in to ? |
| 04:17.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | does it matter? |
| 04:17.04 | centHOGG | big kurt hovind fanboy |
| 04:17.25 | somiaj | Eryn_1983_FL: conf.d contains file snippits. If there isn't a file set up to put that limitation there, I'd create a new file for it. |
| 04:17.44 | photon | well, yes, there's a separate internet plan per religion. Jews' internet connection will be disconnected on Shabbat, on Rosh Hashanah, on Yom Kippur, on the first and second days of Sukkot, on Shemini Atzeret, on Simchat Torah, on Shavu'ot, and the first, second, seventh and eighth days of Passover. |
| 04:17.59 | philipballew_ | Where can i still find downloads of debian 5? |
| 04:19.13 | centHOGG | just find the iso name and google it |
| 04:19.15 | somiaj | philipballew_: look for the oldstable repos |
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| 04:20.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | there better solutions |
| 04:20.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | i put in my root home lol |
| 04:20.29 | philipballew_ | somiaj, alright. im looking to get an iso with support for PA-RISC systems |
| 04:20.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | heh so i dont gota go playing with the stem wide ones.. |
| 04:20.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | sysem |
| 04:20.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | system... |
| 04:22.33 | philipballew_ | yeah somiaj I need to find a lenny hppa iso. |
| 04:22.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | heh |
| 04:23.16 | silvertip257 | Is there a way to specify a dhcp-boot option for a certain mac addr ... so my powerpc server can be served a yaboot image while my Intel hardware still gets pxelinux.0? I'm using dnsmasq |
| 04:23.37 | somiaj | philipballew_: they are on all the mirrors that contain oldstable |
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| 04:24.19 | somiaj | philipballew_: http://www.debian.org/releases/index.en.html |
| 04:24.36 | philipballew_ | alright. thanks :) |
| 04:24.52 | arghx | silvertip257: yes. edit dnsmasq.conf |
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| 04:25.28 | silvertip257 | arghx: I have edited it, but something is wrong ... once I save file + reload I'm no longer able to resolve DNS (my changes make dnsmasq angry). |
| 04:25.51 | silvertip257 | takes a third look at the dnsmasq manpage |
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| 04:26.57 | arghx | so your change causes it to not deliver nameserver IPs anymore it seems |
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| 04:28.25 | TJNII | silvertip257: You don't set that in dhcmasq.conf. You set it in your dhcpd.conf |
| 04:28.54 | silvertip257 | I'm using dnsmasq |
| 04:29.08 | TJNII | Oh, right. I forgot that does dhcp too |
| 04:29.10 | silvertip257 | it's providing DHCP services, not ISC DHCPD |
| 04:29.14 | TJNII | Carry on. |
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| 04:29.19 | silvertip257 | yeah - nah it's all good |
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| 04:52.30 | KFive | Hi, all. If there is more than one version of a package in a repo and apt-get wants to install a certain one, how can I force it to install the one I want? |
| 04:53.11 | blackshirt | KFive: you can specify the version you want |
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| 04:53.48 | KFive | blackshirt: I kind of assumed that. How to do it? |
| 04:54.36 | blackshirt | for example #apt-get install packagename=version |
| 04:54.50 | blackshirt | KFive: i think like that |
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| 04:56.21 | KFive | blackshirt: Trying that, but getting version not found error. |
| 04:56.23 | KFive | Hm. |
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| 04:57.53 | blackshirt | KFive: you must specify version you want :D |
| 04:58.04 | blackshirt | KFive: check it before |
| 04:58.13 | KFive | blackshirt: I did: apt-get install libpulse0=0.99.2-2 |
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| 04:58.43 | peterrooney | ,versions libpulse0 |
| 04:58.45 | judd | Package: libpulse0 on i386 -- lenny: 0.9.10-3+lenny2; lenny-security: 0.9.10-3+lenny2; lenny-backports: 0.9.21-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.9.21-3+squeeze1; wheezy: 1.0-4; sid: 1.1-1 |
| 04:58.46 | KFive | The file is there: ./pool/main/p/pulseaudio/libpulse0_0.99.2-2_i386.deb |
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| 04:59.09 | blackshirt | KFive: are you sure there are multiple version of libpulse ? |
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| 05:00.21 | KFive | This is LMDE, not straight up Debian. There are 5 versions in the repo directory: 0.9.10-3+lenny2, 0.9.21-3+squeeze1, 0.9.23-1, 0.99.2-1 and 0.99.2-2 |
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| 05:00.38 | KFive | 0.9.23-1 is the one that's being installed, but I need the 0.99.2-2 one. |
| 05:01.04 | peterrooney | KFive: "based on debian" and "debian" may not be the same thing. |
| 05:01.07 | arghx | !tell KFive about mint |
| 05:01.40 | blackshirt | KFive: are you using multiple distribution sources.list ? |
| 05:02.01 | arghx | blackshirt: he isn't using debian but mint. he should ask for help elsewhere. in a mint channel |
| 05:02.30 | KFive | arghx: This isn't about Mint, it's about apt-get and dpkg, which are Debian. |
| 05:02.39 | arghx | !based on debian |
| 05:02.40 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 05:02.40 | KFive | (among others) |
| 05:02.44 | wolfman3k5 | has anyone seen Motherfucker James? (that's his real name btw.) |
| 05:02.45 | arghx | KFive: please install debian or go away |
| 05:03.28 | KFive | arghx: You represent the Debian community well, asshole. |
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| 05:04.14 | peterrooney | KFive: if you take advice intended for debian and not for LMDE, and something breaks because, well, IT'S NOT THE SAME, who are you going to complain to? |
| 05:04.15 | centHOGG | yeah I think he was he earlier... left with Cocksucker Lenny |
| 05:04.19 | simonlnu | KFive: they're not debian if they're running on a non-debian install. you represent yourself well by swearing at people. |
| 05:04.47 | KFive | simonlnu: Giving back what I get. |
| 05:05.18 | KFive | The question was about how to specify an option to apt-get, and had nothing to do with Mint. |
| 05:05.39 | simonlnu | i don't see him calling you names. but anyway. please go to a mint channel. |
| 05:05.49 | peterrooney | KFive: it would be unkind of us to present knowledge of debian as if it's mint. The fact that you think it's the same is a problem of lack of your knowledge, and I don't know how you came to that impression. |
| 05:05.57 | arghx | KFive: please stop and ask in a mint channel. dpkg told you where to find one. this channel won't help you. all you will do is waste your time, #linux on freenode might help you too |
| 05:06.02 | simonlnu | apt-get options are outlined in its man page. consult that. |
| 05:07.02 | KFive | peterrooney: I know how they're different and I can't wait to publish how the Debian community treats one of its own while I switch all my servers to CentOS. |
| 05:07.35 | peterrooney | KFive: So, why are you acting as if they are the same? |
| 05:07.42 | simonlnu | mint is not debian. so go right ahead and install whatever you want.... |
| 05:07.55 | KFive | They use the same package manager. |
| 05:08.05 | simonlnu | is done with this *plonk* |
| 05:08.45 | peterrooney | If I ask about slackware's version of gcc in a gentoo channel, I'd expect to be told to bugger off, only not politely. |
| 05:08.57 | centHOGG | what |
| 05:09.14 | centHOGG | i guess idk |
| 05:09.28 | KFive | I'm just glad I came in here to find out how everyone is so full of ill will and ridiculous pedantry. |
| 05:09.31 | peterrooney | KFive: convince me that (i) the exact same version of dpkg is used, and (ii) the package dependencies are identical. |
| 05:09.31 | simonlnu | of course. it's not relevant. |
| 05:09.37 | KFive | Good evening. |
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| 05:09.45 | centHOGG | yikes |
| 05:09.49 | simonlnu | KFive: it's not ill will nor pedantry. |
| 05:10.01 | mosno | gee, i hope he doesn't go public with this, or debian is doomed |
| 05:10.05 | simonlnu | keeps some choice comments to himself... |
| 05:10.09 | simonlnu | ohnoz |
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| 05:10.46 | infernix | let him switch to centos |
| 05:10.53 | infernix | chuckles |
| 05:10.55 | mosno | deploying the GNU/Censorship sentinels to the tubes, sir! |
| 05:12.47 | peterrooney | Can we tell the LMDE distributors to stop using Debian in their name? |
| 05:12.51 | arghx | peterrooney: actually he can convince you since mint uses debian repos :) |
| 05:13.38 | arghx | they should tell their users on their webpage not to ask #debian about mint questions so we can point morons like him to that |
| 05:13.44 | peterrooney | arghx: according to judd, not so - I noticed severe version discrepancies |
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| 05:16.14 | mosno | from a Mint FAQ: "Q: Is LMDE fully compatible with Debian? A: Yes, 100%. LMDE is compatible with repositories designed for Debian Testing or Debian Squeeze." -- i don't see how this is true, otherwise the Mint ISO would be indistinguishable from the Debian ISO |
| 05:16.27 | mosno | or it would be like CentOS where they just change the artwork or something |
| 05:16.36 | mosno | they probably need to update that FAQ, too |
| 05:16.53 | centHOGG | facepalm |
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| 05:22.34 | jair | hello guys, I haven't update my sources for debian squeeze since it was testing. Where can I get the latest information about the source correct list and also I normally use the sources in Finland since they have been very fast and reliable for me altough I live in Chicago |
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| 05:27.33 | MrFrood | jair: man sources.list might be a start, also see http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 05:30.09 | arghx | !tell jair about squeeze sources.list |
| 05:30.25 | arghx | jair: but make sure you actually run squeeze and not testing which is now wheezy |
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| 05:33.31 | simonlnu | jair: you can still just update it. if you have squeeze in sources.list, it just means it'll be stable. if you wanna track testing/wheezy, then put that (wheezy) instead of squeeze. |
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| 05:41.05 | l1t_ | Hi I wasnt to install debian testing. Should I use the netinst or businesscard? lol |
| 05:41.34 | arghx | l1t_: install debian stable |
| 05:41.40 | arghx | and use netinst or cd1 |
| 05:42.01 | drac_h | I dont see much difference in which installmedia to use |
| 05:42.25 | l1t_ | I'm on debian stable right now, I see weird white fuzzy horizontal lines that pop up sporaticaly on my screen. I was told to install testing |
| 05:42.41 | arghx | l1t_: told by whom? and what videocard do you have? |
| 05:42.50 | l1t_ | ATI Radeon 3100. 4chan |
| 05:43.03 | arghx | you trust 4chan for anything? |
| 05:43.17 | drac_h | l1t_: are you sure it's not hardware problem? |
| 05:43.25 | civillian | l1t_: did they tell you to fdisk first incase that's the issue? |
| 05:43.31 | l1t_ | /g/ is actually my go to place to discuss linux. As odd as that may sound |
| 05:43.50 | arghx | if you already run debian you wouldn't need to reinstall it. and since you have to ask very basic questions about debian, testing isn't for you.Testing has bugs. LOTS of them, it's a testing version after all |
| 05:44.15 | arghx | l1t_: but them telling you to install testing already proves how they don't know anything worthwile |
| 05:44.24 | somiaj | and the bugs in it now are more than normal (espically if your a gnome or non-free ati user |
| 05:44.29 | arghx | l1t_: which drivers do you use for your videocard now? |
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| 05:45.36 | l1t_ | arghx: One sec let me figure out how to check lol. The default one though. Hold on |
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| 05:46.02 | arghx | l1t_: glxinfo |grep -i render |
| 05:47.11 | l1t_ | direct rendering: Yes |
| 05:47.14 | l1t_ | OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer |
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| 05:47.25 | knightstalker | ugh damn |
| 05:47.27 | knightstalker | -.- |
| 05:47.57 | arghx | l1t_: please install firmware-linux-nonfree from non-free and restart X. then rerun the glxinfo command |
| 05:48.18 | arghx | l1t_: before you do, pastebin the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log please |
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| 05:54.11 | l1t_ | K I didnt run that command yet. here is the contents http://pastebin.com/gvTXST0Y |
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| 05:55.32 | arghx | l1t_: ok, install the firmware from non-free http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-linux-nonfree that should give you 3D support and hopefully fix your picture quality |
| 05:55.58 | l1t_ | sry I missed the top bit here: http://pastebin.com/z9nP9wq1 |
| 05:56.00 | l1t_ | k will do |
| 05:56.06 | jair | thank you guys |
| 05:56.10 | arghx | l1t_: if it doesn't, you can try the proprietary driver by AMD /msg dpkg fglx dkms or you can get a new Xorg from backports |
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| 05:56.40 | arghx | l1t_: and in the future, please ask us or the debian-user mailinglist instead of 4chan :) |
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| 06:01.35 | jair | simonlnu: I have this right now: http://paste.debian.net/146842/ |
| 06:01.52 | jair | so I should change this to stable/updates |
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| 06:02.53 | arghx | jair: no. your sources.list is fine. you do not want "stable" in there but the actual release name |
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| 06:03.52 | jair | arghx: cool |
| 06:04.10 | jair | arghx: the thing is I am having a little error when running apt-get update |
| 06:04.15 | arghx | which? |
| 06:04.36 | jair | arghx: I will test now and paste the error in patebin |
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| 06:05.55 | jair | arghx: http://paste.debian.net/146846/ |
| 06:06.15 | jair | arghx: I areally appreciate your help :) |
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| 06:06.50 | l1t_ | arghx: K I installed it. Don't I have to restart something or anything so this takes effect? |
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| 06:08.09 | arghx | l1t_: yes you have to reboot so the kernel can load the firmware |
| 06:08.36 | l1t_ | arghx: kk I shall be back. Thanks |
| 06:08.40 | arghx | jair: use another mirror. all you can do |
| 06:09.50 | jair | arghx: I am currently in Japan so i will use one from here |
| 06:09.57 | jair | arghx: sounds good? |
| 06:10.16 | centHOGG | don't eat the rice jair |
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| 06:10.56 | arghx | yes sounds good |
| 06:10.58 | jair | hahahaha |
| 06:11.54 | l1t_ | I still see sporatic 3cm horizontal lines popping up all over the place. I never had this issue in Ubuntu and when I was on Ubuntu I used proprietary graphics drivers. I think I may have to do that eh |
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| 06:16.14 | arghx | !tell l1t_ about fglrx dkms |
| 06:16.16 | jair | arghx: I really don't think I need lines 1 and 2 ---> http://paste.debian.net/146849/ |
| 06:16.34 | jair | arghx: that is where I am getting that error about not been able to translate or read |
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| 06:17.05 | arghx | jair: you definitely need them if you want to install software. and yes, it's the .fi packages it wants which don't come |
| 06:17.22 | arghx | jair: without those lines you cannot install any new software. it's the debian main repo after all |
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| 06:19.36 | pumafyre | can anyone tell me where there is a knoppix irc chat? |
| 06:19.39 | jair | arghx: then I have something wrong on the way I am typing it there can you paste your primary repo? |
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| 06:20.04 | pumafyre | I'm having a problem installing xchat into knoppix 6.7; the repositories are all debian |
| 06:20.09 | pumafyre | xchat and irssi |
| 06:20.46 | RA3OR | Happy Thanksgiving ! <chases a turkey> |
| 06:20.57 | arghx | jair: you typed it totally right. nothing else to do |
| 06:21.09 | arghx | !knoppix |
| 06:21.09 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems. |
| 06:21.26 | somiaj | pumafyre: what? So you are running knoppix and are wanting to use debian repos to install things -- versions aren't going to match and this is not supported by debian or knoppix |
| 06:21.48 | pumafyre | I get an error: no, I'm running knoppix and knoppix uses only deb repositories |
| 06:21.48 | jair | arghx: it is interesting I get the same error on the .jp as .fi |
| 06:21.59 | pumafyre | brb somiaj |
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| 06:22.30 | somiaj | debian does not use debian repos, it uses knoppix repos. |
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| 06:22.56 | arghx | somiaj: it does? :) |
| 06:23.04 | pumafyre | back |
| 06:23.19 | arghx | jair: my guess is, there are no .fi translation repos at all |
| 06:23.29 | pumafyre | somiaj: I get irssi: Depends: libperl5.10 but it is not going to be installed Depends: perlapi-5.10.1 |
| 06:23.32 | somiaj | arghx: yea your right...I ment knoppix...arg now he got me all turned around. |
| 06:23.36 | arghx | pumafyre: please ask for help with knoppix elsewhere. we do not support it |
| 06:23.44 | pumafyre | arghx: ok, thank yu |
| 06:23.46 | pumafyre | *you |
| 06:23.56 | somiaj | pumafyre:please use knoppix support. Its not debian's responsability to keep their dependencies straight. |
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| 06:24.00 | arghx | pumafyre: check #knoppix |
| 06:24.01 | jair | arghx: nor Japan, so I should try US repo even when I am in Japan, I am using a debian squeeze in US english language |
| 06:24.21 | pumafyre | arghx: somiaj thank you |
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| 06:25.04 | arghx | jair: you can try, but I doubt it will change |
| 06:25.10 | arghx | jair: what version is your apt? |
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| 06:28.14 | jair | arghx: Architecture: amd64 |
| 06:28.14 | jair | Version: 0.8.10.3+squeeze1 |
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| 06:29.06 | jair | arghx: I apologize for pasting two separate lines, I am just trying to provide the exact information to resolve the issue It can be me the only one having this type of error... |
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| 06:31.28 | arghx | jair: then I dunno why it does this. I was thinking maybe you got apt from wheezy maybe |
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| 06:35.53 | Maiku-kun | hi all |
| 06:36.52 | Maiku-kun | how can I change default font size in X11 environment? I mean all applications. Somehow, that font size became very small and I wonder how to change it.. |
| 06:37.14 | Maiku-kun | I tried to run X with -dpi 100, but it didn't help |
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| 06:39.12 | jair | arghx: maybe because I am connecting from Japan with a laptop built in EN US? |
| 06:39.29 | arghx | nah. you are a finn? |
| 06:39.39 | centHOGG | helsinki rox |
| 06:39.51 | l1t_ | arghx: Can you please tell me how to stop X and stop any DM |
| 06:39.59 | dsdeiz | hi, how do i set x-terminal-emulator to urxvtc using update-alternatives? |
| 06:40.05 | arghx | oh you use en_US. then it shouldn't really be a problem :( |
| 06:40.19 | arghx | l1t_: /etc/init.d/<your dm> stop |
| 06:40.37 | arghx | where <your dm> can be gdm3, kdm, xdm, etc |
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| 06:40.51 | l1t_ | and that stops X as well? |
| 06:41.12 | arghx | yes |
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| 06:43.46 | jair | arghx: hmm my laptop is a EN US built, I am connecting now from Japan cafe internet and I changed the source repo to US |
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| 06:44.15 | arghx | who built it doesn't matter. all that matters is what your debian uses for locale |
| 06:45.04 | Cisien | I am attempting to set up my atheros wifi adapter in 802.11n mode on one of the 5ghz bands. The card works fine as an access point in 'g' mode, but I cannot set any of the 'a' channels. has anyone had this problem? |
| 06:45.28 | Maiku-kun | dsdeiz: update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator |
| 06:45.58 | jair | arghx: it uses EN US |
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| 06:46.48 | arghx | Cisien: are you sure it's a 5GHz capable card? |
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| 06:47.23 | Cisien | yes |
| 06:47.33 | Cisien | IEEE 802.11abgn |
| 06:48.01 | Cisien | http://pastebin.com/sjud3K5t |
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| 06:48.56 | arghx | I don't see anything about n |
| 06:49.01 | arghx | what chip is it? |
| 06:49.31 | Cisien | hostapd.conf: http://pastebin.com/TxJX570r - Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) |
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| 06:50.09 | arghx | you didn't answer my question |
| 06:50.14 | l1t_ | arghx: Is there a way I can copy and paste the command one exited out of X? I tried shift ctrl V and shift insert and either worked |
| 06:50.14 | centHOGG | huh |
| 06:50.20 | l1t_ | once* |
| 06:50.24 | Cisien | i don't even care if I get N, A is fine, i can't even get 54mbps in this area on G due to the sheer number of access points in range |
| 06:50.51 | arghx | l1t_: install gpm |
| 06:51.20 | arghx | Cisien: are you trying to set up an AP or a client? |
| 06:51.45 | Cisien | AP |
| 06:52.11 | Cisien | the chip is an atheros AR928X |
| 06:52.25 | arghx | there is no chip of that name. "X" is not a number |
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| 06:52.59 | arghx | l1t_: please stay in channel. you install gpm if you want to use the mouse to copy+paste in console |
| 06:53.08 | arghx | the fglrx install you still need to do |
| 06:53.30 | Cisien | AR5bxb92? |
| 06:53.36 | dsdeiz | Maiku-kun: though urxvtc isn't one of the options when i used that |
| 06:53.48 | arghx | Cisien: lspci -nn |
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| 06:54.13 | l1t_ | arghx: Ah ok thanks. Yeah I msgd because of how long the msg was sorry. |
| 06:54.14 | Cisien | Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002a] (rev 01) |
| 06:54.22 | arghx | Cisien: but I dunno how to configure hostapd which is why I asked |
| 06:54.53 | Cisien | hostapd works fine when i set the mode and channel to a G freq |
| 06:55.16 | arghx | seems I am wrong. AR9280, AR9281, AR9283, AR9285, AR9287, AR928X al exist :( |
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| 06:56.45 | Cisien | i have a feeling it has to do with the regulatory domain settings burned on the card |
| 06:57.28 | Maiku-kun | dsdeiz: then it seems to be a bug if urxvtc/urxvtd were installed properly |
| 06:58.00 | arghx | Cisien: you sure they are on the card and not the driver? |
| 06:58.45 | arghx | Cisien: http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=6822.45 |
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| 07:00.45 | Cisien | i really would rather not patch the driver :/ |
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| 07:02.40 | snipe- | Hi people. I transferred a debian box to vmware. And every reboot now it stops just before entering init: 2....Its asking for Ctrl-D or root password. No errors about anything...Any clue how to resolve? |
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| 07:05.10 | arghx | snipe-: it does error. pastebin the full output and if there is a "quiet" kernel commandline option, remove it |
| 07:05.22 | stylewalka | Hello, I just installed debian stable; i got it running, but now the system hangs with "* setting up unicode environment"; any ideas how to fix that? |
| 07:05.30 | somiaj | snipe-: what do you mean transfer? Usually it gives you that error if there is something wrong with the filesystem. |
| 07:05.43 | somiaj | stylewalka: what did you do before it started to hang? |
| 07:06.16 | arghx | somiaj: he moved it inside a VMWare from real hardware. now partitions or such have changed and it "hangs" |
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| 07:06.34 | arghx | somiaj: ie, he tried to boot the real partition on disk from inside vmware for example |
| 07:06.46 | snipe- | arghx: ill have to have a look again but last time i checked there wasnt any quiet line |
| 07:07.02 | snipe- | somiaj: converted it from physical to virtual |
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| 07:07.12 | dsdeiz | Maiku-kun: hm, not sure if i installed it correctly. though what i did is install rxvt-unicode-256color from squeeze backports as i can't find urxvtc/urxvtd in the repository |
| 07:08.00 | ZekeS | err |
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| 07:08.14 | Maiku-kun | dsdeiz: why don't you use just urxvt? |
| 07:08.15 | ZekeS | isnt urxvtc/d installed with urxvt? |
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| 07:08.44 | somiaj | snipe-: as arghx said you have to change your setup so it understands the virtual hardware (parititons/dirve) over the old phyiscal hardware |
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| 07:09.04 | l1t_ | arghx: Thankyou! It worked. Those drivers fixed my problem! I just want to know will that command fix that issue for all ATI Drivers or was that my version specific? |
| 07:09.15 | Maiku-kun | ZekeS: I've just checked it in my debian, they are installed with urxvt |
| 07:09.17 | l1t_ | al ATI graphics cards* |
| 07:09.31 | dsdeiz | ZekeS: yeah. seems so. i have it now though i don't have it as an option in update-alternatives |
| 07:09.38 | Maiku-kun | and there is no urxvtx in update-alternatives --config |
| 07:09.44 | Maiku-kun | *urxvtc |
| 07:09.56 | dsdeiz | Maiku-kun: nah was using urxvt. though they say its faster with a client-daemon type |
| 07:10.00 | snipe- | somiaj: I have installed the virtual tools and if I hit Ctrl-D it continues and works perfect until next reboot.... |
| 07:10.20 | arghx | l1t_: yours. e.g my HD3470 works fine with the normal radeon drivers |
| 07:10.21 | snipe- | somiaj: ill reboot it tonite again and have another look, cheers |
| 07:10.40 | Maiku-kun | dsdeiz: I think it would be nice to do such feature request |
| 07:10.56 | arghx | l1t_: and in maybe half a year or whenever, the free radeon driver has fixed this bug you encountered. its development doesn't stop |
| 07:11.07 | Maiku-kun | found the same bug but it's from 2007 year... |
| 07:11.16 | dsdeiz | Maiku-kun: which request? |
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| 07:11.55 | Maiku-kun | dsdeiz: about adding urxvtc to update-alternatives |
| 07:12.00 | l1t_ | arghx: Cool thanks. Maybe I should tell them about the bug maybe I can help. |
| 07:13.05 | stylewalka | somiaj:by initial install I had problems with the network card; so i installed via debootstrap; after that worked, I did some package installations; rebooting then led to "hang" |
| 07:13.27 | arghx | l1t_: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=xorg&component=Driver/Radeon for their bug DB and #radeon here on freenode for their IRC channel |
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| 07:13.42 | dsdeiz | oh. so i guess its just it right? urxvtc doesn't come out in update-alternatives by default? |
| 07:14.34 | Maiku-kun | dsdeiz: yes, there is urxvtc in my system, but it's absent in update-alternatives |
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| 07:15.18 | Cisien | *sigh*... i think i'll just buy a new atheros card that is known to have the us regodmain set by default |
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| 07:15.35 | Maiku-kun | dsdeiz: also, you may try --set option |
| 07:17.14 | somiaj | stylewalka: did you debootstrap to a new partition or over the old install? You may have to turn off quiet boot, or boot up off a rescue/livecd and parse the logs to see where it hangs |
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| 07:19.36 | stylewalka | somiaj: I installed it upon a new partition; how do i turn off quite boot? |
| 07:20.17 | somiaj | stylewalka: /etc/default/grub (its in there) then you'll have to reupdate grub (do this by chrooting into your install) |
| 07:21.11 | somiaj | stylewalka: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" -- that is the line you want to tempoary disable for a more detailed boot. Though this info will also be stored in your messages, syslog located in /var/log/ |
| 07:22.02 | stylewalka | somiaj: ok thank you, i try that |
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| 07:45.59 | mastro | do you know of any official repository from which I can install the *real* thunderbird in the place of icedove? |
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| 07:46.59 | arghx | mastro: ask mozilla. |
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| 07:47.42 | mah454 | I need like secureCRT in linux ... |
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| 07:47.59 | arghx | mastro: ssh, putty. why would you need secureCRT? |
| 07:48.07 | arghx | not even windows users need it |
| 07:48.54 | Maiku-kun | mastro: why do you need thunderbird instead of icedove? |
| 07:49.02 | somiaj | mastro: the static linked binaries could work just fine. If you for some reason don't like the rebranding, that is the method I would suggest (cna run it from your $HOME dir or say /usr/local). Though if you just want a newer version than is in stable, get a backport of icedove |
| 07:49.24 | arghx | somiaj: does mdn do them? |
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| 07:49.40 | mastro | arghx, I'm asking here because it's debian who choosen to switch thunderbird for icedove (I'm not critizing the choice) |
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| 07:50.20 | mastro | Maiku-kun, some extension / add-on do not work on icedove, I did not investigated much, but they check against the version and get confused when they did not find "thunderbird" |
| 07:50.26 | arghx | mastro: but we don't know since there is no more thunderbird. ask mozilla where they have a thunderbird for debian to download. since debian certainly doesn't |
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| 07:50.53 | somiaj | arghx: not sure what you get from mdn, I just down load the tar from mozilla.org, they seem to work just fine. Though only as a test, I would rather have secuirty from debian. (: |
| 07:50.57 | mastro | somiaj, that would force me to manually upgrade when a new version is out :) but thanks for the suggestion |
| 07:51.25 | mah454 | arghx, i need use ssh in other terminal emulators .. |
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| 07:52.38 | mastro | somiaj, also, it's not a "do like or do not like" matter, it's that some extension used to be un-installable on icedove, it's been a while I've used thunderbird/icedove on a debian box.. so I don't remember exactly which one didn't, but I remember they did |
| 07:52.41 | arghx | mah454: I don't get what you mean |
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| 07:53.39 | mah454 | arghx, gnome-terminal , konsole , putty , .... is terminal emulators . |
| 07:54.09 | Maiku-kun | mastro: it may be more useful to get that addon work |
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| 07:54.20 | somiaj | mastro: well since the only difference is the branding, it should hopefully be an easy thing to look at. You could look at mozilla.debian.net, but I think you may be on your own if you want to run the offical branded version. |
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| 07:54.26 | modnuy | can i use a linux-image-xxx-dbg to dbg the kernel during boot? |
| 07:54.27 | arghx | mah454: you are mistaken |
| 07:54.41 | arghx | mah454: and both putty and ssh are ssh clients |
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| 07:56.52 | mah454 | arghx, ssh is a port for access to other consoles , and putty is terminal emulator for using ssh connection ... |
| 07:57.07 | mastro | Maiku-kun, thunderbird: search, choose, install, restart --- icedove, search, choose, try to install, open with a browser and look for the same plugin, try to download it, try to understand how to unzip / rezip it, try to understand what to adjust to make it work, actually unzip / fix it, install it manually by dragging into icedove... repeat every time you need / must upgrade the plugin, repeat for every plugin which suffer of this issue |
| 07:57.26 | mastro | Maiku-kun, no thanks, I already got through this once, and I don't like it |
| 07:57.40 | ZekeS | mah454: you DID just try ssh foo@bar in w/e terminal emulator/console you were using right? |
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| 07:58.22 | mah454 | ZekeS, yes ... |
| 07:58.30 | mastro | Maiku-kun, I know it's a fault of the one who wrote the extension... and I'm, again, not criticizing Debian for the choice to rebrand ... but that choice put up some unnecessary overhead and difficulty to the end user |
| 07:59.30 | mah454 | bye |
| 07:59.46 | ZekeS | arghx: he confuses me :s |
| 08:01.28 | mastro | anyway I asked "is there a debian repository that has thunderbird in it"? and I found myself explaining the reason of my question :) do somebody know one or know there aren't? |
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| 08:03.50 | Maiku-kun | mastro: I think there is no such repo |
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| 08:04.02 | mastro | Maiku-kun, thanks |
| 08:04.15 | Maiku-kun | as somiaj said, it's the matter about manual installation with tarball |
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| 09:10.27 | cnz | im tyring to compile xmlrpc-c and after make I run install and get the following error install: missing file operand, any ideas? |
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| 09:11.40 | oo_miguel | how do i check which debian release i run? |
| 09:11.54 | oo_miguel | because I can not see it in /proc/version do I ? |
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| 09:13.16 | mmv | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 09:13.26 | oo_miguel | ah thank you |
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| 09:13.58 | oo_miguel | so its 6.0.3, however I need mysql 5.5 , how do i proceed in such a case? |
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| 09:14.18 | oo_miguel | with aptitude I will get 5.1 on my debian |
| 09:15.14 | cnz | anyone? |
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| 09:19.49 | Venker | hi there |
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| 09:22.43 | mmv | oo_miguel: compile it, install it in /usr/local/ |
| 09:22.55 | oo_miguel | allright thx mmv |
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| 09:36.59 | kristian-aalborg | cheers |
| 09:37.09 | Venker | I've got an old lenny server with openssh-server enabled, but it does not accept any RSA public keys, it always asks me for a password. Is there any option in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I forgot? |
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| 09:38.19 | Venker | RSAAuthentication yes |
| 09:38.19 | Venker | PubkeyAuthentication yes |
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| 09:55.45 | d1d4c | hi there |
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| 10:00.22 | arghx | d1d4c: yes? |
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| 10:03.19 | mosno | how trustworthy is debian-multimedia.org? ie. do most DDs use it? |
| 10:03.25 | mosno | ie. those that need its packages |
| 10:03.52 | petemc | its popular, fairly widely used |
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| 10:08.16 | DelTree | quite stupid question: why isn't there some aptitude source ? that's the only thing that remains I'm only able to do with apt-get... |
| 10:09.09 | somiaj | mosno: what do you want from there? It is getting to be less and less of a nessacary as more media stuff is now in the main repos. |
| 10:09.36 | mosno | somiaj: i don't remember why i added it... i think it was for multimedia codecs. |
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| 10:10.03 | somiaj | mosno: for the most part the ones in ffmeg view 'most' things. I find I don't need them anymore personally. |
| 10:10.15 | arghx | mosno: it's run by a DD. the trouble with it is, it can lead to conflicts with debian main packages |
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| 10:11.40 | mosno | somiaj: i'd tell you which packages, but annoyingly the distro name for debian-multimedia is "squeeze", so apt-show-versions can't differentiate... |
| 10:13.45 | mosno | brb, new kernel, need a reboot |
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| 10:29.31 | amee2k | possibly mildly ot, but does anyone know if there is a channel for privoxy (the http proxy)? |
| 10:29.41 | Arafangion | Unlikely. |
| 10:30.02 | Arafangion | Also... Poor bastard. :) |
| 10:30.04 | amee2k | meh |
| 10:30.09 | amee2k | who? |
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| 10:30.57 | Arafangion | You, although I somehow thought it was for http tunnelling... Which it isn't, but even so. |
| 10:31.05 | Arafangion | I played with it many years ago, it was interesting. |
| 10:31.27 | amee2k | i'm using it as browser-neutral junk blocker |
| 10:31.41 | Arafangion | Ah, nice idea. |
| 10:31.48 | Arafangion | Sometimes I think about doing that again. |
| 10:32.34 | amee2k | its a pretty cool concept but it does have certain limitations becaus the proxy can only see data in-transit. not directly control the data structures in the browser like a blocking plugin |
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| 10:34.00 | Arafangion | Yeah. I don't run firefox, though, so none of those adblock plugins. |
| 10:34.07 | amee2k | i've been using it for a few years now and noticed something the other day... lots of website annoyances are easy to fix by injecting an extra piece of CSS or javascript, so i was wondering if i'm missing an easy way to do that with privoxy |
| 10:34.35 | Gentoo64 | privoxy has loads you can do |
| 10:35.01 | Arafangion | amee2k: I suspect you watn to get very well acquanted with the "actions" file. |
| 10:35.18 | amee2k | i know it *can* do it, but i'd use it more often if there was a streamlined way to do it |
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| 10:35.38 | Gentoo64 | annoyances like what? just ads that done get filtered? |
| 10:35.40 | Gentoo64 | dont* |
| 10:36.09 | amee2k | or stuff that just annoys me on end on some sites |
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| 10:36.51 | Gentoo64 | i know theres an easylist version that blocks a whole lot more than plain ads |
| 10:36.57 | Gentoo64 | like facebook twitter buttons etc |
| 10:37.07 | Gentoo64 | i think its possible to put them in privoxy |
| 10:37.39 | amee2k | Arafangion: i allready work on an action file with my own block rules, what i'm thinking of is something like an "inject-css-block-to-header" action that takes a piece of CSS as argument |
| 10:38.19 | amee2k | Gentoo64: i've got a filter rule that turns all the paypal donate buttons into smileys :) |
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| 10:38.36 | Gentoo64 | :) |
| 10:38.51 | Gentoo64 | tbh i just use the default lol |
| 10:38.56 | Gentoo64 | works well enough for me |
| 10:38.57 | Arafangion | amee2k: Hey there, could you please :) :) :) :) :) :) :), thanks! |
| 10:39.32 | arghx | paypal is not so much of a problem facebook, reddit, etc are |
| 10:39.49 | Gentoo64 | or that bloody jimmy wales wikipedia ad |
| 10:39.57 | Gentoo64 | cant stand the sight of his face no more |
| 10:39.59 | intosh | why not use /etc/hosts to block facebook, etc |
| 10:40.05 | amee2k | i can get the same effect with a filter rule that replaces the </head> tag with <style....</style></head> but that means editing the filter file every time and the filter file needs a restart to reload |
| 10:40.23 | arghx | that's a strange one. never seen it yet. I had to go to a IE browser to see his sad dogface |
| 10:40.31 | amee2k | Gentoo64: that would be easy to block with a CSS rule. the <div> has an ID |
| 10:40.37 | Gentoo64 | yeah |
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| 10:44.35 | alho2 | hi. Can somepoint me to a wheezy-iso (beta version?), which has a working setup/debian installer? i tried the weekly build but the installation process seems to have a bug ("no installable kernel" and other problems) |
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| 10:45.55 | amee2k | Gentoo64: http://paste.debian.net/146865/ :) |
| 10:46.16 | Gentoo64 | cool :) |
| 10:46.16 | arghx | alho2: install debian stable. wheezy installers are not for installing debian |
| 10:46.30 | Gentoo64 | amee2k, ive never bothered to play with privoxy properly yet |
| 10:46.39 | Gentoo64 | even after all these years lol |
| 10:46.58 | amee2k | i mean sure it works. but reloading to edit the filter file is somewhat annoying. hence why i'd love a way to inject it with the Action file alone |
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| 10:47.33 | Gentoo64 | i just havent had much time to read it all, theres so many comments and the docs are huge |
| 10:48.08 | amee2k | i only read the section about action files, and the comments in the default config file |
| 10:48.09 | Gentoo64 | ive been using the defaults piped through polipo seems "alright" |
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| 10:48.20 | amee2k | the web interface for editing action files on the fly is extremely handy |
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| 10:48.58 | Gentoo64 | might play with it today, give me somethign to do :) |
| 10:49.44 | amee2k | imo most of the magic is in the URL pattern matching rules for the action file. if you're not good with regular expressions these to a degree as well. the filter file is basically a list of perl-style regex substitutions |
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| 10:50.29 | alho2 | arghx, i thought i could save some time but okay i'll try the upgrade path then. i'm just anxious that my setup (dmraid, lvm, etc.) wont work afterwards. i had some issues in the past with grub legacy -> grub 2... i'll report back :) |
| 10:50.48 | arghx | alho2: squeeze uses grub2 |
| 10:51.12 | alho2 | ah ok. didnt know that. cool. |
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| 10:52.31 | Dev0n | hey, if I have /foo/bar/car/.. how would I get bash to extract "bar" from it, been meesing around with the pattern-matching operators but can't seem to get it to work |
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| 10:56.57 | midas3 | hi |
| 10:58.00 | midas3 | i am trying to build a new kernel via make-kpkg but the build fails with modules.order no such file or directory |
| 10:58.11 | midas3 | could anyone give me a hint? |
| 10:58.51 | Arafangion | Read the documentation? |
| 10:59.02 | midas3 | which |
| 10:59.09 | Arafangion | The kernel docs. |
| 10:59.30 | Arafangion | You have to do more than 'make-kpkg'. |
| 10:59.39 | Arafangion | Also, ask dpkg. |
| 11:00.29 | midas3 | hmm, i have always built my kernels this way. that is why i do not understand why it keeps failin now |
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| 11:03.52 | arghx | midas3: what do you run? |
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| 11:04.23 | Zap-W | HellO |
| 11:04.33 | midas3 | make-kpkg buildpackage -j2 --initrd --revision `date +%Y%m%d` |
| 11:04.55 | midas3 | after configuring of course |
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| 11:08.46 | midas3 | arghx: was that you want to know? in case os is squeeze with 3.0.4 selfbuilt |
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| 11:12.01 | lamah | -j16 |
| 11:12.03 | arghx | midas3: maybe the kernel 3.0? |
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| 11:17.08 | midas3 | 3.0.4 as stated |
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| 11:39.47 | icarious | !windows |
| 11:39.48 | dpkg | "PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work." Support for Microsoft Windows operating systems is available in ##windows on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 11:45.16 | EvaStroll | !help |
| 11:45.59 | EvaStroll | !chaninfo |
| 11:45.59 | dpkg | I'm on 7 channels: #debian/1146, #debian-ops/15, #debian-bots/8, #debian-no/2, #debian-cn/2, #dondelelcaro/1 |
| 11:45.59 | dpkg | i've cached 1174 users, 1150 unique users, distributed over 7 channels. |
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| 11:50.45 | EvaStroll | jelly, casual try ;) |
| 11:51.25 | jelly | there's an unusual nubmer of italian people that come in here and try to !list |
| 11:51.29 | jelly | (don't do it) |
| 11:51.48 | EvaStroll | jelly, why? |
| 11:52.01 | Arafangion | One only does that *once*. |
| 11:52.12 | jelly | EvaStroll: because this is not a warez network and this is not a warez channel |
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| 11:53.03 | jelly | but somehow only .it people do that, so I wondered how/why do only those somehow find freenode #debian to do that |
| 11:53.04 | EvaStroll | jelly, sry are my first times that i try to use irc chat and i courius that whatta '!' can print |
| 11:53.40 | EvaStroll | jelly, i dont do it anymore ;) |
| 11:53.49 | arghx | EvaStroll: /msg dpkg <topic> |
| 11:54.45 | jelly | EvaStroll: irc has different channels with different communities. This one channel is about Debian operating system. |
| 11:56.10 | EvaStroll | jelly, ok ok, i've use this channel one time for question about debian ;) don't worrie i will use this channel only for questions in future |
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| 11:57.05 | jelly | EvaStroll: on this network, you can join #defocus for general chat |
| 11:57.47 | jelly | !tell EvaStroll about irc tutorial |
| 11:57.50 | jelly | !tell EvaStroll about irc |
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| 11:58.34 | EvaStroll | jelly, thx too much i will read |
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| 12:15.54 | Trieste | Hi, I have iceweasel and the iceweasel-l10n-cs package installed, but it's still in english, where can I change it's language? |
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| 12:17.11 | cesurasean | what is the package name of firmware-nonfree on squeeze? |
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| 12:17.25 | Agiofws | hello is anyone using icedove ? |
| 12:17.37 | nkuttler | Agiofws: please ask your real question |
| 12:17.49 | Agiofws | my real question is... |
| 12:17.56 | nkuttler | cesurasean: apt-cache search firmware nonfree |
| 12:18.13 | nkuttler | cesurasean: you might have to add non-free sources as well |
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| 12:19.53 | Agiofws | that before a week ago when i pressed address book i got a list of collected addresses now there IS NO list of collected addresses in the address window where did they go ? though when i type them into the TO: field they are still in the programs "cache" or text file ... nkuttler |
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| 12:30.06 | cesurasean | thanks |
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| 12:32.14 | cobra-the-joker | Hey there every one ... i have an hp usb 3-in-1 printer ... how can i install it ? |
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| 12:32.36 | Agiofws | is anyone using thunderbird? |
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| 12:33.53 | cobra-the-joker | Agiofws , yes |
| 12:34.28 | Agiofws | that before a week ago when i pressed address book i got a list of collected addresses now there IS NO list of collected addresses in the address window where did they go ? though when i type them into the TO: field they are still in the programs "cache" or text file ... |
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| 12:36.04 | cobra-the-joker | Agiofws, i have no idea .... you should ask at #thunderbird@irc.mozilla.org |
| 12:36.23 | Agiofws | ok thanks |
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| 12:36.27 | cobra-the-joker | Agiofws, they are quite helpful but you have to wait |
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| 12:44.36 | dtcrshr | hello everyone! for some odd reason my debian server now wont up to gnome, and i cant access the other tty via ctrl + alt + Fx |
| 12:44.58 | dtcrshr | I can enter the console via gnome, but its a tiny window, im wondering if theres a way to get the text terminals back |
| 12:45.01 | dtcrshr | or even fix up gnome |
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| 12:47.34 | jiohdi | dtcrshr, if c-a-f1 cannot get a text terminal, something is seriously wrong, a reboot may be in order |
| 12:48.37 | dtcrshr | rebooted many times |
| 12:48.40 | jiohdi | you might also look into a package called Guake |
| 12:48.42 | dtcrshr | tryed all the kernels |
| 12:48.51 | dtcrshr | some kernels it gets to (initramfs) |
| 12:49.14 | jiohdi | guake gives you a terminal via drop down after F12 |
| 12:49.21 | cesurasean | guys, question. i need to loadbalance https with haproxy or what not, and ive read and HAD before stunnel until i blown my machine away. well, i had a compiled from source version, but id rather have an apt-get file if I could use that version. Can you look at this web page, and tell me if the debian package has the same "patch" already in it??!! If someone can better advise me on this it would be great as I'm new to load balancing!!! :) |
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| 12:49.47 | dtcrshr | but i cant get into gnome, if i log to gnome i get into a gray background with only the mouse pointer |
| 12:50.00 | dtcrshr | something is seriously screwed up |
| 12:50.13 | cesurasean | would debian provide something like " patch stunnel to provide X-Forwarded-For headers to HAProxy" |
| 12:50.18 | jiohdi | might want to try a different desktop like LXDE or XFCE |
| 12:50.22 | cesurasean | or is that out of scope of the OS to support? |
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| 12:53.07 | cesurasean | HELLO? |
| 12:53.10 | cesurasean | I NEED A NINJA! |
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| 12:53.53 | arghx | you need a new keyboard |
| 12:54.06 | cesurasean | says who? |
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| 12:54.18 | cesurasean | i do, actually. i broke my E key typing too much. heh. |
| 12:54.31 | cesurasean | and other keys have burn marks on them. have melted. lol |
| 12:54.42 | Arafangion | How'd you do that? |
| 12:55.27 | cesurasean | cigarettes |
| 12:55.35 | cesurasean | and the E came off from typing |
| 12:55.37 | cesurasean | Acer sucks |
| 12:55.55 | cesurasean | so i just glued it back on. 20 bucks for a new keyboard plus time to put it on |
| 12:55.58 | cesurasean | and im lazy |
| 12:56.06 | jelly | you suck (cigarettes) |
| 12:56.07 | Arafangion | shakes his head. |
| 12:56.09 | cesurasean | ill fix it before i sell and upgrade lol |
| 12:56.22 | cesurasean | yes, cigarettes and pot. |
| 12:56.33 | Arafangion | More glue? |
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| 12:56.47 | cesurasean | it works |
| 12:56.50 | jelly | cesurasean: at least the latter is less harmful! |
| 12:56.52 | cesurasean | its just sticky because of the glue lol |
| 12:57.12 | HeyMan_ | hi |
| 12:57.20 | cesurasean | yeah and the cannabis helps the fact i smoke cigarettes |
| 12:57.22 | cesurasean | i never get sick |
| 12:57.24 | HeyMan_ | can i know is debian good to start the journey of linux? |
| 12:57.27 | HeyMan_ | for a noob? |
| 12:57.28 | cesurasean | smoked like 12 years now |
| 12:57.47 | cesurasean | HeyMan_, sure. go to debian.org and start reading! :) |
| 12:57.56 | cesurasean | or buy a debian book at amazon.com |
| 12:58.03 | HeyMan_ | is it better than opensuse? |
| 12:58.06 | HeyMan_ | just suggestions |
| 12:58.08 | cesurasean | YES. |
| 12:58.13 | cesurasean | debian is KING. |
| 12:58.30 | cesurasean | if you know what you are doing. it's more universal. |
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| 12:58.34 | cesurasean | more robust. |
| 12:58.47 | HeyMan_ | oh i see |
| 12:58.50 | HeyMan_ | so in fact better than opensuse |
| 12:58.50 | jelly | cesurasean: you patch looks a bit out of scope for stunnel, but I guess you could file a Priority: wishlist bug |
| 12:59.25 | HeyMan_ | cesurasean: would it be good for a complete noob? i perfect windows convert? |
| 12:59.58 | cesurasean | HeyMan_, yes. |
| 13:00.06 | cesurasean | I use Windows 7 right now as i speak to you |
| 13:00.11 | cesurasean | my servers run debian just fine |
| 13:00.14 | cesurasean | and my workstations |
| 13:00.14 | mosno | HeyMan_: depending on your needs/skill, you might need another system for work until you get up to speed on how debian works and how to make it work for you |
| 13:00.24 | HeyMan_ | ah well but why i asked since my friend suggested me opensuse but as you say debian is better than opensuse, so just out of curiosity asked |
| 13:00.26 | cesurasean | i use every operating system i can get my hands on |
| 13:00.29 | mosno | HeyMan_: but that applies to all new systems in general |
| 13:00.33 | cesurasean | the more you know, the more likely you will be hired for work |
| 13:00.47 | cesurasean | but, i prefer debian. |
| 13:00.53 | HeyMan_ | okk |
| 13:00.53 | cesurasean | or ubuntu |
| 13:00.58 | Arafangion | cesurasean: Sure about that? :( |
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| 13:01.02 | HeyMan_ | debian is having good tutorials? |
| 13:01.06 | republican_devil | woa |
| 13:01.10 | republican_devil | debian on the rise! |
| 13:01.22 | HeyMan_ | debian is having good tutorials? |
| 13:01.32 | cesurasean | Arafangion, sure about what? |
| 13:01.38 | babilen | !tell HeyMan_ about introduction |
| 13:01.44 | babilen | !tell HeyMan_ about general cli tutorial |
| 13:01.48 | Arafangion | cesurasean: More knowledge == more likely to be hired. |
| 13:01.50 | babilen | !tell HeyMan_ about reference |
| 13:01.54 | Arafangion | cesurasean: Not sure I agree there. |
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| 13:02.09 | babilen | HeyMan_: Read those -- You can ask the bot (i.e. dpkg) about all the factoids in <..> |
| 13:02.25 | HeyMan_ | babilen: i didn't get ? |
| 13:02.35 | cesurasean | gotta go |
| 13:02.38 | cesurasean | laters!!! |
| 13:02.43 | HeyMan_ | ty |
| 13:02.59 | babilen | HeyMan_: You should have received a couple of private messages from dpkg -- You can also ask the bot yourself with, for example, "/msg dpkg reference" |
| 13:03.02 | HeyMan_ | <dpkg cli> |
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| 13:03.24 | bzed | HeyMan_: /msg dpkg cli |
| 13:03.25 | HeyMan_ | yeah i got |
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| 13:03.52 | HeyMan_ | how bot sends me? |
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| 13:05.22 | HeyMan_ | ok |
| 13:05.25 | HeyMan_ | bye brb |
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| 13:06.18 | Daniel2342 | When I use dig in debian, how can I see what nameserver dig is querying? |
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| 13:07.26 | Arafangion | It's usually fairly verbose. |
| 13:09.12 | jelly | Daniel2342: you might like +trace option. Compare "dig +trace google.com" with a mere "dig google.com" |
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| 13:32.26 | trieste | How do I change Iceweasel's language? I have the appropriate l10n package installed, but it's still in English. |
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| 13:35.33 | nkuttler | trieste: for the interface itself? i use the LC_ALL env |
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| 13:40.45 | zepogh | i like opera browser |
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| 13:47.18 | trieste | nkuttler: so, I put LC_ALL=de (for example) into my .bashrc and it should work? |
| 13:47.31 | dokma | anyone knows why middle click to kate doesn't paste text selected in Eterm??? |
| 13:47.48 | dokma | I'm in xfce4 on debian |
| 13:48.03 | dokma | but it didn't work when I was on kde either |
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| 13:50.46 | arghx | trieste: what's your locale currently set to? |
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| 13:52.04 | trieste | arghx: strangely enough, LC_ALL seems not to be set |
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| 13:52.24 | arghx | doesn't have to be |
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| 13:52.32 | trieste | arghx: alright, how do I find what's my locale set to, then? :) |
| 13:52.44 | arghx | echo $LANG |
| 13:53.07 | trieste | arghx: cs_CZ.UTF-8 |
| 13:53.31 | trieste | arghx: and I have "iceweasel-l10n-cs" installed |
| 13:55.11 | arghx | options content languages choose |
| 13:55.14 | arghx | what's in there? |
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| 13:56.53 | trieste | there was english, but it doesn't seem to have an effect |
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| 13:59.01 | lmodi34 | Hi |
| 13:59.31 | lmodi34 | I'd like to give a user root access, how do I do that? |
| 14:00.00 | simonlnu | install sudo instead |
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| 14:00.14 | Trieste | lmctl|s, and them add him to sudoers |
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| 14:01.41 | lmodi34 | simonlnu: no sudo please |
| 14:02.07 | simonlnu | not wise to add another root user |
| 14:02.21 | simonlnu | gott know what you're doing... |
| 14:02.27 | simonlnu | gotta* |
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| 14:02.47 | Trieste | lmctl|s, why not? |
| 14:03.13 | simonlnu | fixes Trieste's tab completion |
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| 14:03.42 | Trieste | sigmonsay, hah, thanks |
| 14:03.52 | Trieste | oh goddammit |
| 14:04.00 | simonlnu | hehe |
| 14:04.28 | Trieste | lmodi34, why don't you want sudo? |
| 14:06.28 | lmodi34 | X( |
| 14:06.28 | lmodi34 | Trieste: forget it |
| 14:07.47 | babilen | lmodi34: Why don't you want to use sudo? |
| 14:08.04 | lmodi34 | I can't tell you |
| 14:08.14 | babilen | Ah, /me forgets it as well, but mentions that adding the user to the "sudo" group should suffice |
| 14:08.19 | auREAX | He'll have to kill you otherwise |
| 14:08.39 | babilen | lmodi34: Give the root password to the other user in that case. |
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| 14:09.16 | Trieste | lmodi34, it's hard to help you if you don't tell us about the problem |
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| 14:11.46 | jelly | lmodi34: are you under a NDA? |
| 14:12.00 | jelly | "I can't tell you that, either" |
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| 14:13.03 | Trieste | I wonder what kind of reason for not installing sudo is so secret you can't tell anyone |
| 14:13.49 | auREAX | NSA |
| 14:13.51 | auREAX | security |
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| 14:15.31 | nkuttler | or he rooted a box and wants a way back in once the exploit is fixed. without drawing attention by installing sudo |
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| 14:18.09 | Touns | hello there |
| 14:18.25 | Trieste | nkuttler, that's what I thought as well, but if he knows how to root a box, he might as well know how to get root access after that |
| 14:18.26 | jelly | nkuttler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor |
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| 14:19.24 | jelly | Touns: hi. Ask away! |
| 14:19.25 | Touns | I have some problem with my integrated motherboard soundcard : I'm not able to select the mixer to decrease the sound |
| 14:19.31 | Touns | it's at the maximal |
| 14:20.04 | Touns | I'm only able to change the microphone input from my usb webcam |
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| 14:20.35 | Touns | s/Ãmicrophone/mcrophone level/ |
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| 14:22.10 | joelio | Guys, the netinstaller for Wheezy actually installs Squeeze! |
| 14:22.12 | joelio | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ |
| 14:22.33 | Touns | I'm on a the Squeeze and here is my sound device : http://pastebin.com/9d0psrNc |
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| 14:23.13 | Touns | how can I say to alsa, hey please don't change the usb mixer but the other card please ? |
| 14:24.12 | joelio | Yes, the netinstaller for Wheezy has stuff dated from January.. which is impossible as Squeeze hadn't been released then! |
| 14:24.14 | nkuttler | Touns: you can switch devices in alsamixer |
| 14:25.03 | Touns | nkuttler: i'm not able to launch alsamixer : cannot load mixer controls: Argument invalide |
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| 14:25.56 | Touns | it seams like my debian are not able to correctly reconize my sound card. I have a p8p67 motherboard and I'm trying to use the integrated chip |
| 14:26.47 | Touns | but I have some sound, but at the maximal and it's a way too much for my earphones |
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| 14:29.57 | dserban__ | Anyone have a clue as to why chromium is broken in sid? Tired of iceweasel suck... |
| 14:29.59 | nkuttler | Touns: no idea. google your error i guess or try #alsa |
| 14:30.12 | dserban__ | Looked at the bug reports, but it seems that no one has a clue. |
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| 14:34.27 | babilen | dserban__: AFAICT the underlying issue has not yet been identified. There are a couple of workarounds and patches around, but the issue has, as of now, not been fixed in a satisfying way. |
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| 14:35.39 | daniel-s | hi |
| 14:35.44 | daniel-s | !unity |
| 14:35.45 | dpkg | Unity is a shell interface for <GNOME>, part of the Ayatana project. <ITP> filed as Debian bug #609278. http://unity.ubuntu.com/ |
| 14:35.59 | daniel-s | what are debian's plans for Gnome3 and unity? |
| 14:36.31 | babilen | daniel-s: Gnome3 will be part of the wheezy release and there is the ITP for unity so you can install it if you want to. |
| 14:37.22 | babilen | daniel-s: Note that unity has not yet been packaged and I can't tell you if it will be part of the next release. |
| 14:37.39 | daniel-s | but gnome3 will use the new interface |
| 14:37.40 | joelio | Is nobody else concernded the Sqeeuze and Wheezy netinst images are the same? |
| 14:37.44 | dserban__ | babilen, thanks for the info, I even asked for help on how to get more error messages out of it, but didn't get too far. |
| 14:37.48 | daniel-s | it is my understanding that it's not very popular |
| 14:38.13 | babilen | daniel-s: Users are free to use whatever software they want. |
| 14:38.33 | daniel-s | also, babilen are you a debian developer, I just ask because you're always very helpful and full of answers |
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| 14:39.50 | babilen | daniel-s: I maintain packages and will be a DM (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer) soon ... so, no :) |
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| 14:42.28 | Touns | nkuttler: thank you |
| 14:43.59 | daniel-s | does anyone have any recommendations on what to do/read to better understand how debian works |
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| 14:44.20 | daniel-s | I have read the document, (can't remember which one) that describes the policy on the directory structure |
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| 14:49.43 | babilen | daniel-s: That was probably the FHS -- There are a couple of resources about Debian. Is there something in particular you are interested in? (e.g. Debian Administration, Packaging, Debian as a project, Debian's infrastructure, ...) |
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| 14:56.06 | joelio | Could someone tell me why http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/ |
| 14:56.19 | joelio | has the same initrd and vmlinuz as squeeze? |
| 14:56.35 | joelio | It's causing squeeze to be installed on a pxe install |
| 14:56.40 | joelio | . not wheezy |
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| 14:57.57 | babilen | joelio: You can use the stable d-i to install wheezy and that is, in fact, the recommended way to install testing. I guess that those files haven't been touched for quite some time. |
| 14:57.57 | rozie | joelio: it's not the same |
| 14:58.15 | rozie | http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/ - even size is different |
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| 14:58.39 | joelio | rozie: We pulled down that image (with the january 2011 initrd/vmlinuz) yesterday and it's installed squeeze |
| 14:59.42 | joelio | it makes me wonder as squeeze was still in testing in January |
| 15:00.00 | joelio | so how wheezy initrd could be january is a bit of a mystery :) |
| 15:00.43 | babilen | joelio: *Do not* use the testing d-i -- You can find weeklies on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ -- But again: Use a stable d-i! You can use it to install testing, but the recommended way to install testing is to install stable and upgrade to testing. (for very small values of "recommended") |
| 15:00.57 | rozie | maybe some sort of mirror update error |
| 15:01.02 | joelio | babilen: Could you point me to an URL perchance/ |
| 15:01.13 | rozie | joelio: can you check another mirror? |
| 15:01.13 | babilen | joelio: For what? |
| 15:01.16 | joelio | for stable d-i |
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| 15:01.31 | ilyak | hi * |
| 15:01.49 | ilyak | I'm trying to debuild --signing-hook |
| 15:02.00 | ilyak | and for some reason it executes payload in .. |
| 15:02.08 | joelio | rozie: could be mirror, check http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/ |
| 15:02.08 | ilyak | not in the package directory |
| 15:02.17 | ilyak | this sucks, any cures? |
| 15:02.18 | babilen | joelio: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/debian-installer/ |
| 15:02.24 | joelio | cheers |
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| 15:05.34 | ilyak | also it does final-clean-hook first and signing-hook then |
| 15:05.40 | ilyak | which is ridiculous |
| 15:05.49 | ilyak | they should probably look up 'final' in dictionary |
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| 15:06.28 | Cisien | What atheros cards do people use for 5ghz N as an Access Point? I'm looking to buy a new card here in the near future that has the US regdomain buned on it so I don't need to use a kernel patch |
| 15:06.43 | dokma | is there a way to tell a dns server to update it's cached info? |
| 15:07.03 | dokma | I've just changed some data on a authoritative ns and would like to propagate it faster |
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| 15:07.31 | Cisien | rndc flush |
| 15:08.16 | dokma | that's for my machine |
| 15:08.28 | dokma | what about if it's a remote name server |
| 15:08.32 | Cisien | do you have control of the server? |
| 15:08.36 | dokma | no |
| 15:08.50 | Cisien | then the only thing you can do is wait for the record to expire |
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| 15:08.58 | dokma | that's what I thought |
| 15:08.59 | ilyak | unknown hook option --dpkg-genchanges-hook |
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| 15:09.23 | Cisien | whatever the TTL is on the record is how long you'll need to wait |
| 15:09.36 | dokma | yeah, I know that part |
| 15:09.44 | dokma | I just thought there was an override to it |
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| 15:12.11 | ilyak | They're idiots |
| 15:12.50 | ilyak | 'my @hooks' doesn't contain dpkg-genchanges-hook |
| 15:13.05 | ilyak | which the man page does specify |
| 15:13.15 | ilyak | but the other code tries to call this hook |
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| 15:13.33 | ilyak | never mind that it can't be set |
| 15:13.40 | ilyak | it's broken and nobody cares |
| 15:13.43 | ilyak | I hate software |
| 15:13.58 | EyesIsMine | bugs with sid anybody |
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| 15:14.04 | EyesIsMine | <Mkaysi> You must run "mkdir /media/cdrom0" as root by hand or all CDs will give error "Can't mount, because mount point doesn't exist" |
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| 15:19.33 | dym | Hey - how do i extract all lines not beginning with a # from a file? |
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| 15:22.09 | rly | Is the Google linker replacement also packaged by Debian? |
| 15:22.44 | babilen | dym: 'grep -v "^#" FILE' |
| 15:22.50 | ironmunk | cat file | grep -v "^#" | sed '/^$/d' |
| 15:23.03 | ironmunk | that'll remove the empty lines as well |
| 15:23.10 | babilen | cat is not needed |
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| 15:23.52 | arghx | classical UUOCA |
| 15:24.03 | babilen | ironmunk: "/msg dpkg uuoc" |
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| 15:24.17 | ironmunk | lol |
| 15:25.14 | ironmunk | I would love to see contemporary UUOCA arghx |
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| 15:26.48 | stevieman | Is there a way with pam mount to allow ssh connections? My users can sftp in but are unable to connect via ssh (putty) |
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| 15:27.19 | petemc | stevieman: what does auth.log say when they try? |
| 15:27.37 | stevieman | petemc: second I will pastebin it |
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| 15:29.38 | stevieman | petemc: http://pastebin.ca/2095435 |
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| 15:34.14 | petemc | stevieman: it looks to be closing connection immediately, you could try running sshd in debug mode |
| 15:35.05 | stevieman | petemc: I will try that. seems odd that the sftp connection is fine and the putty connection is closed immediately |
| 15:35.18 | petemc | does |
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| 15:39.50 | wibert | a small question, does a linux machine need a DSA keypair? (squeeze still says bit size must be 1024), while FIPS 186-3 mostly specifies higher numbers..), or can u just delete the DSA key under /etc/ssh/ and safely only use the RSA key? |
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| 15:45.14 | sKeiths | if i have a few machines, can i set it up so they use the same username and passwords for all machines? and when i add a user to one machine its added to all. any hints on what terms to research. |
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| 15:46.04 | gypsymauro | hi, there is a way to see which is writing what on the disc? somethink like top/htop :) |
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| 15:46.21 | wibert | sKeith: use ssh to launch the adduser command to all your machine (for loop in bash) |
| 15:46.33 | wibert | lsof? |
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| 15:46.49 | babilen | gypsymauro: iotop? |
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| 15:47.17 | gypsymauro | wibert: something like lsof but keeping to check.. iotop babilen ? I'll test it :D |
| 15:49.28 | stevieman | petmec: ok how do I get ssh to run in debug mode. |
| 15:49.34 | rly | Does gold exist on Debian? |
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| 15:50.47 | jhutchins_lt | rly: gold what? |
| 15:50.54 | rly | jhutchins_lt: linker |
| 15:50.57 | admin1 | ciao |
| 15:50.59 | gypsymauro | rly: debian is gold! |
| 15:51.11 | admin1 | list |
| 15:51.14 | rly | !gold |
| 15:51.20 | rly | !silver |
| 15:51.24 | rly | !platinum |
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| 15:51.44 | admin1 | ciao |
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| 15:52.09 | rly | I am talking about the Google replacement for ld on x86 and later platforms. |
| 15:52.47 | jhutchins_lt | rly: Then it doesn't exist in debian, it exists in google. |
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| 15:53.47 | rly | jhutchins_lt: that logic makes no sense. |
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| 15:54.06 | jhutchins_lt | rly: No, it's not a Debian package, it's a google package. |
| 15:54.19 | rly | jhutchins_lt: by that logic there are no Debian packages. |
| 15:54.37 | rly | jhutchins_lt: because Debian mostly just repackages existing stuff. |
| 15:54.42 | jhutchins_lt | rly: Don't be an idiot. Debian packages a lot of stuff, but it doesn't package Adobe or Google stuff. |
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| 15:55.03 | rly | jhutchins_lt: I am pretty sure there was a Sun package some time ago. |
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| 15:55.22 | jhutchins_lt | !search |
| 15:55.23 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <axi-search> <debtags>. |
| 15:55.37 | rly | jhutchins_lt: ... I searched and I didn't find anything. |
| 15:55.46 | rly | jhutchins_lt: so, I asked. Then you gave a useless answer. |
| 15:56.01 | rly | jhutchins_lt: so, don't act superior (judging by your use of idiot). |
| 15:56.04 | rly | jhutchins_lt: TYVM |
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| 15:56.17 | jhutchins_lt | rly: Since you seem to know the answer you want already I'll just leave you alone. |
| 15:57.08 | rly | jhutchins_lt: I know _an_ answer, not necerrarily an optimal one. I could also have heard 'John Doe is working on getting it in Debian next month'. |
| 15:57.14 | babilen | Isn't it just part of binutils? |
| 15:57.33 | rly | babilen: yes, but it is/was an experimental feature. |
| 15:58.06 | rly | babilen: man ld also tells me GNU ld, not gold. |
| 15:58.12 | babilen | rly: "man gold" |
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| 15:58.26 | rly | babilen: that says the same thing. |
| 15:58.31 | rly | babilen: which must be a bug. |
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| 15:59.18 | babilen | rly: I have different manpages on sid -- lets check for squeeze. |
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| 16:00.30 | babilen | rly: What about "man ld.gold" ? |
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| 16:02.47 | stevieman | ok so how can I get sshd to run n debug mode. Everythign I'm finding on Google is not working |
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| 16:04.43 | llutz | stevieman: sshd -ddd |
| 16:05.30 | stevieman | llutz: Thanks, also I just figured out that LogLev DEBUG works in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 16:05.51 | mastro | why debian wheezy do not have a sun-java6-plugin package? |
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| 16:05.59 | mastro | has it been removed? for which reason? |
| 16:06.11 | babilen | mastro: That package has been removed from Debian. Use openjdk! |
| 16:06.23 | babilen | mastro: (icedtea-plugin that is) |
| 16:06.33 | rly | babilen: no such page exists on Squeeze. |
| 16:06.33 | mastro | babilen, what if I need the sun plugin? |
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| 16:07.40 | babilen | mastro: Install it from upstream or run stable -- Debian can and will not distribute Sun's/Oracle's java due to its licensing. (good thing due to security problems IMHO) |
| 16:08.39 | mastro | babilen, well.. debian can do whatever it want... but lately I'm not very happy with their choices |
| 16:09.13 | mastro | babilen, I love Linux and Free software.. when I can I use them.. but I also need to work and get the job done.. and they are going against this more and more often :/ |
| 16:09.17 | babilen | rly: "info gold" ? |
| 16:09.34 | arghx | mastro: no one but oracle is allowed to distribute java. no linux distro has it or will have it |
| 16:09.51 | arghx | correction: unbreakable linux by oracle has it |
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| 16:10.18 | babilen | mastro: First of all: it is not a choice or anything, but we are not allowed to distribute it. Secondly: OpenJDK is the reference implementation of 7 and your software *should* work with openjdk6 as well. |
| 16:11.11 | babilen | mastro: You can install it from oracle but we can and will not distribute it any longer. |
| 16:11.32 | mastro | babilen, I did not know about this oracle restriction, who can other distro distrubute it then? |
| 16:11.32 | babilen | no |
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| 16:12.22 | stevieman | I'm not seeing any reason in my auth_log as to why my users ssh connections are failing but their sftp connections are working just fine. Does anyone else see the reason? We are using Pam Mount to lock users to their home dir. Here is the auth_log section for my least test http://pastebin.ca/2095447 |
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| 16:17.08 | rly | babilen: also points to gnu ld. |
| 16:17.16 | babilen | mastro: You can search for "oracle java dlj linux" (or variations thereof) to learn about this. Bottom line: Make sure your software targets openjdk |
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| 16:17.29 | rly | babilen: I think it simply does not exist on 6.0. |
| 16:17.41 | babilen | rly: Would it help if I paste the manpage? It is, unfortunately, also not available on manpages.d.n |
| 16:17.51 | rly | babilen: no, it wouldn't. |
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| 16:18.13 | rly | babilen: I would be interested in an apt-get install weirdpackagenameactuallyinstallinggold, but otherwise no. |
| 16:18.21 | babilen | rly: So "/usr/bin/gold" is not gold on squeeze? Give me a second, I'll fire up one of my squeeze VMs |
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| 16:18.52 | jhutchins_lt | babilen: On my squeeze the gold manpage is the ld man page. |
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| 16:19.07 | rly | babilen: hmm, gold --version does print out GNU gold. |
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| 16:19.20 | jhutchins_lt | babilen: On my lenny box it doesn't exist. |
| 16:19.40 | rly | babilen: ok, so, I do have it. (Great!) |
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| 16:19.45 | rly | babilen: just no manpage. |
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| 16:20.13 | babilen | jhutchins_lt: Yeah, the binutils version in lenny is too old |
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| 16:20.27 | babilen | rly: So, I ask once again: Would it help if I paste the manpage? |
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| 16:21.10 | rly | babilen: no, you are most helpful (really). I am already glad that it exists. |
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| 16:21.34 | rly | babilen: I will likely use it at some other time in the near future. |
| 16:22.03 | babilen | rly: Wonderful, have fun! |
| 16:22.13 | becker_11 | I've done a custom & very minimal debian install on my netbook but now I've realised I don't have a way of monitoring the battery charge/discharge state |
| 16:22.15 | babilen | (btw, I can confirm the issue) |
| 16:22.18 | matthiasgorgens | Hi. What's the name of the handy program to find out which package provides a binary of a certain name? |
| 16:22.25 | matthiasgorgens | (I'm looking for yptest in this case.) |
| 16:22.27 | becker_11 | what would you suggest? |
| 16:22.31 | babilen | matthiasgorgens: "apt-file" |
| 16:22.35 | rly | babilen: which VM tech do you use? |
| 16:22.40 | matthiasgorgens | babilen: Thanks! |
| 16:22.41 | babilen | rly: KVM |
| 16:22.58 | matthiasgorgens | babilen, and what package is apt-file in? ;o) |
| 16:23.00 | rly | babilen: too bad it doesn't work for Windows. |
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| 16:23.17 | matthiasgorgens | babilen: oh, apt-file is a package. good. |
| 16:23.21 | rly | babilen: (it only works up to 1600x1200 on my machine) |
| 16:23.27 | babilen | matthiasgorgens: Hehe, chicken and egg :) |
| 16:23.40 | rly | babilen: but otherwise kvm was good for Linux. |
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| 16:26.36 | setog3 | hi, do you know a way to tell dpkg or apt to reinstall all package that created a link (or a file) in /usr/lib ? (I have done some mess with my /usr/lib/ .. want to restart with something clean) |
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| 16:30.09 | rly | setog3: you can use apt-file to create a script which does that, so it does require some programming. |
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| 16:30.25 | Bartzy | OK - weirdest problem ever |
| 16:30.42 | Bartzy | Can't access gmail.com , sometimes can't youtube.com... from another computer in the same Wifi network, it works all the time. |
| 16:30.46 | rly | setog3: there are some other tools which also do that possibly more accurately. |
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| 16:31.19 | Bartzy | Tried chrome + iceweasel 8 |
| 16:31.21 | rly | Bartzy: you have the same IP as a different device? |
| 16:31.35 | Bartzy | any idea ? |
| 16:31.38 | rly | Bartzy: that was an idea. |
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| 16:33.07 | nsadmin | !any ideas |
| 16:33.07 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of condoms, a little thermal paste, and a dozen starving hamsters. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few hours! |
| 16:33.15 | setog3 | rly: thx, I will try to use apt-file search.. to list /usr/lib etc.. thx |
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| 16:38.02 | Bartzy | rly: what? |
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| 16:41.15 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: That really isn't enough information to go on. |
| 16:42.05 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: Can you ever reach gmail.com? When you can't, can you reach google.com? Can you reach any other web servers? Can you resolve hostnames? How long do the outages last? |
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| 16:50.06 | multihunter | hello |
| 16:50.27 | multihunter | my friend is going to install a debian distro on my vps and asked me to give him the iso |
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| 16:50.50 | multihunter | i gave him the small installation iso which i found in the officiail website |
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| 16:51.07 | multihunter | but he says the installation needs a ftp account!! |
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| 16:52.29 | arghx | multihunter: which one exactly did you give him? |
| 16:52.31 | becker_11 | Bartzy: always start with a ping of 8.8.8.8 if that works your connected then ping google.com if that fails its dns |
| 16:52.53 | multihunter | arghx: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.3-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 16:54.07 | arghx | it doesn't need an ftp account or network for anything.but after installation he should install openssh-server and for that he will need a network connection. without the ssh server you cannot access your new VPS |
| 16:54.57 | multihunter | but this is the small installation iso |
| 16:55.25 | multihunter | this is written on the website too: These allow you to download only those Debian packages that you actually want, but require an Internet connection on the machine you are installing Debian onto. |
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| 16:57.14 | arghx | multihunter: yes. it installs a small, fully functional debian. but if you want additional packages, like openssh-server you need a network connection |
| 16:57.40 | multihunter | thanks arghx |
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| 16:58.17 | arghx | multihunter: what kind of vps is it? |
| 16:58.27 | multihunter | esxi :) |
| 16:58.51 | multihunter | He sells windows vpses but i asked him to install linux for me |
| 16:59.43 | arghx | ideally, send him CD1 and let him install that. should have openssh-server on the CD itself |
| 17:00.09 | multihunter | ok |
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| 17:00.47 | Bartzy | becker_11: Both work. |
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| 17:01.29 | joelio | babilen: Wheezy finally installing. DHCP broken in the D-I/NIC combo I'm using... even though I had to dhcp to get the pxe images, but still... manual config and it's working. Cheers! |
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| 17:01.43 | becker_11 | Bartzy: thats good then |
| 17:01.52 | Bartzy | becker_11: But gmail.com doesn't work. |
| 17:02.09 | becker_11 | Bartzy: have you tried mail.google.com? |
| 17:02.50 | Bartzy | becker_11: Yes. Nothing. |
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| 17:03.04 | qmr | what do you do when kill -9 doesn't work? |
| 17:03.23 | Firztspawn | kick the machine |
| 17:03.34 | becker_11 | Bartzy: http://mail.google.com/mail/?labs=0 |
| 17:03.36 | qmr | that would damage the hardware. |
| 17:03.44 | becker_11 | Bartzy: thats safe mode |
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| 17:04.09 | Bartzy | becker_11: nope... |
| 17:04.15 | Bartzy | doesn't load |
| 17:04.17 | Firztspawn | if killall -9 doesn't work, I generally risk a hard reboot |
| 17:04.26 | Firztspawn | i.e. power button |
| 17:04.27 | becker_11 | Bartzy: what browser? |
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| 17:05.11 | Bartzy | becker_11: google chrome, also tried iceweasel 8 |
| 17:05.17 | Firztspawn | whether thats the best way, I don't know... but if killall -9 doesnt work; I haven't heard of an alternative |
| 17:05.19 | hosler | Hey, im looking for some software to run on my webserver that will allow me to stream music. im looking for something that will look nice over my phone's web browser. |
| 17:05.31 | becker_11 | Bartzy: do you get any message when it wont load? |
| 17:05.38 | Bartzy | becker_11: no.. |
| 17:05.51 | qmr | I've done killall -9 steam.exe about 50 times .... -_- |
| 17:06.05 | hosler | qmr: use the pid id |
| 17:06.05 | becker_11 | Bartzy: but you see the login page and get to enter your details yeah? |
| 17:06.19 | Bartzy | becker_11: No... |
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| 17:06.37 | cipherboy | qmr: trying to kill steam when running in wine? Have you tried killing wine? |
| 17:06.49 | cipherboy | *trying to kill steam running |
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| 17:07.11 | qmr | wine isn't running, qmr 5334 96.6 0.0 0 0 ? Zl 09:00 180:07 [steam.exe] <defunct> |
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| 17:07.26 | qmr | try to kiill by PID, still doesn't kill. taking up all of 1 CPU core |
| 17:07.46 | Firztspawn | .exe? linux doesnt run .exes by default |
| 17:08.02 | jelly | qmr: <defunct> means the process is already gone, its parent is not colecting it however |
| 17:08.12 | jelly | Firztspawn: that's what "wine" is all about. |
| 17:08.13 | Firztspawn | are you use cedega or something? |
| 17:08.16 | becker_11 | Bartzy: go into incognito mode and load mail.google.com from there |
| 17:08.30 | becker_11 | Bartzy: in Chrome |
| 17:08.46 | torvald- | Is there any memory limit on debian pr process? I can't allocate more then ~2 GB alltough I have 19 GB free. |
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| 17:08.55 | qmr | jelly: what do I do!? |
| 17:09.09 | torvald- | C-program whit calloc(). |
| 17:09.17 | jelly | qmr: check what its parent process is. |
| 17:09.18 | torvald- | with |
| 17:09.54 | jelly | torvald-: which architecture? 32bit i386 has an effective 3GB limit on address space per process. |
| 17:10.13 | torvald- | Yep, but it is 64bit. |
| 17:10.17 | qmr | jelly: there is 5334, which is .. blank ? and then 5377, which is steam.exe, taking 99% cpu |
| 17:10.52 | cipherboy | qmr: can you afford a reboot? If so, just reboot. |
| 17:10.58 | becker_11 | Bartzy: Are you using https or http? |
| 17:11.00 | jelly | qmr: a <defunct> process taking cpu? Something is wrong with the kernel. Inspect your /var/log/kern.log or dmesg. Or just reboot |
| 17:11.11 | cipherboy | jelly: :D |
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| 17:11.30 | jelly | cipherboy: sometimes it's worth teahing a user how to determine the cause. |
| 17:11.56 | cipherboy | good point. What kernel do you think he is running? |
| 17:12.04 | jelly | I don't think. |
| 17:12.08 | qmr | but it takes a whole 15s from boot -> desktop fully loaded =( |
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| 17:12.20 | Firztspawn | is cedega still used for gaming... or does steam etc just use wine nowadays? |
| 17:12.33 | viero | ciao atutti |
| 17:12.33 | jelly | qmr: bet you spent more than 15s on the issue already |
| 17:12.34 | qmr | cedega is still a thing. idk if anyone actually uses it or not |
| 17:12.57 | viero | !list |
| 17:12.58 | dpkg | viero: e possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero con http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.3-amd64-i386-netinst.iso |
| 17:13.21 | jelly | I'm using Crossover Games. At least I know they contribute code back to wine |
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| 17:13.50 | Firztspawn | crossover games?? I thought crossover was an Office app lol |
| 17:14.01 | arghx | Firztspawn: they have more than one product |
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| 17:14.16 | Firztspawn | damn I need to keep in touch with linux dev lol |
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| 17:17.15 | Bartzy | becker_11: when going to mail.google.com it redirects to https://mail.google.com, but then it hangs.. |
| 17:17.40 | becker_11 | Bartzy: have you tried incognito mode? |
| 17:17.43 | Bartzy | becker_11: Now everything works |
| 17:17.48 | Bartzy | but it will happen again soon. |
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| 17:17.54 | Bartzy | it's working, then not working |
| 17:18.14 | becker_11 | Bartzy: time for a full system check I would say |
| 17:18.27 | Bartzy | I just got: "Some Gmail features have failed to load due to an Internet connectivity problem. If this problem persists, try reloading the page, or using the basic HTML version. Learn More." |
| 17:18.34 | Bartzy | there are NO connectivity issues |
| 17:18.39 | Bartzy | I want to kill google |
| 17:19.01 | jelly | Bartzy: which browser? |
| 17:19.07 | Bartzy | jelly: chrome |
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| 17:19.17 | jelly | Bartzy: chrome or chromium? |
| 17:19.20 | valdyn | Bartzy: try using a proxy |
| 17:19.32 | Bartzy | jelly: Chrome |
| 17:19.39 | valdyn | Bartzy: or a different browser |
| 17:19.53 | jelly | Bartzy: can you reproduce the issue with a browser that's actually in Debian? |
| 17:20.07 | cipherboy | I have no issues with chrome (on ubuntu though) and accessing gmail. |
| 17:20.34 | Bartzy | valdyn: I tried iceweasel. |
| 17:20.43 | Bartzy | jelly: Iceweasel 8 |
| 17:20.52 | valdyn | Bartzy: and...? |
| 17:20.56 | jelly | probably a network/proxy/cache issue |
| 17:21.03 | cipherboy | Bartzy no firefox? |
| 17:21.07 | jelly | if both browsers act similarly |
| 17:21.17 | Bartzy | actually iceweasel gets to the login page |
| 17:21.20 | Bartzy | then I login and it's stuck |
| 17:21.21 | jelly | cipherboy: firefox is not in debian either |
| 17:21.24 | Bartzy | chrome doesn't even get to the login |
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| 17:21.35 | Bartzy | network issue - I don't think so.. there's no packet loss to mail.google.com |
| 17:21.38 | fff | hi |
| 17:21.38 | valdyn | Bartzy: so you have network issues |
| 17:21.47 | valdyn | Bartzy: packet loss is irrelevant |
| 17:21.57 | Bartzy | valdyn: Why ? |
| 17:22.00 | valdyn | Bartzy: tcp/ip is designed to cope with packet loss |
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| 17:23.00 | Bartzy | valdyn: So how can I know if I have issues ? |
| 17:23.07 | Bartzy | and ICMP doesn't cope with packet loss. |
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| 17:23.16 | becker_11 | Bartzy: I'd suggest thunderbird in the mean time to ccreate an offline backup |
| 17:23.30 | valdyn | Bartzy: we already know that icmp has no packet loss, thats not very useful |
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| 17:24.16 | valdyn | Bartzy: if none of your browsers works, then you have networking issues or rather issues happening in the network. That could just aswell be a (transparent or not) proxy |
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| 17:25.03 | valdyn | Bartzy: use the proxy your isp offers you and try with that |
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| 17:25.22 | Bartzy | The google help pages don't work either |
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| 17:26.05 | Heisenmink | what's the umask equivalent of 775? |
| 17:26.09 | Heisenmink | and how do I calculate it? |
| 17:26.23 | valdyn | !wikifaq Heisenmink Permissions |
| 17:26.23 | dpkg | Heisenmink: check out http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://wiki.debian.org/ |
| 17:26.25 | Bartzy | 002 ? |
| 17:26.37 | Heisenmink | Bartzy, how do you calculate it? |
| 17:26.44 | Bartzy | 777-775 ? |
| 17:27.36 | valdyn | Heisenmink: ^^^ works only generally if you use base 8 |
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| 17:28.33 | valdyn | or nvm, thats irrelevant in this case ,duh |
| 17:28.42 | Bartzy | valdyn: It's not a network issue, because when trying on another device on the same network (same wifi), everything works. |
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| 17:28.57 | Bartzy | also, it already happened to me on an entirely different network, outside of home. |
| 17:29.45 | Bartzy | becker_11: Incognito works |
| 17:29.59 | Bartzy | but then I load a message and it's stuck on "Loading" |
| 17:30.25 | valdyn | Bartzy: try some more browsers |
| 17:30.36 | becker_11 | Bartzy: same pc outside of home or different?? |
| 17:30.48 | Bartzy | becker_11: same pc same network... |
| 17:30.58 | Bartzy | valdyn: I tried. |
| 17:31.28 | valdyn | Bartzy: is the result exactly the same? |
| 17:31.30 | cipherboy | all: sorry, had to drop |
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| 17:31.50 | Bartzy | valdyn: Iceweasel - loading page loads, after entering the credentials it's stuck. |
| 17:31.58 | Bartzy | Chrome - Loading page doesn't load |
| 17:32.16 | Bartzy | Chrome incognito mode - Loading page loads, the mailbox loads.. when loading a message it's stuck. |
| 17:32.22 | becker_11 | Bartzy: I assume you've cleared all cookies, the cache and disabled all add ons?? |
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| 17:33.49 | Bartzy | becker_11: Yes, but still - chrome doesn't work.. only in incognito mode |
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| 17:35.06 | TheWarden | Hi, I freshly installed Debian 6.0.3 AMD64 and I'm wondering how could I have all email sent to an given email address? |
| 17:35.37 | TheWarden | presently it appears all email is being directly locally to my main user account as I seen a few emails when I run mailx. |
| 17:35.46 | Heisenmink | valdyn, Bartzy: thanks |
| 17:35.52 | valdyn | TheWarden: use /etc/aliases to collect all on one local account and ~/.forward to forward to a remote account |
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| 17:38.11 | valdyn | TheWarden: actually /etc/aliases might take remote adresses too, I don't know that |
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| 17:41.27 | TheWarden | valdyn: mmm okay. Do you know of a man page I can read about this or some admin web page to read on this subject> |
| 17:41.29 | TheWarden | ? |
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| 17:45.41 | stephan48 | hey howto make atftpd substitute backslashes to slashes during requests? |
| 17:45.50 | stephan48 | i have to deal with win clients -.- |
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| 17:53.17 | zophy | Lions and Green Bay |
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| 17:53.57 | admin1 | ciao |
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| 17:54.07 | file-exists-p | is there a standard manner to find what configuration files have been changed manually ? in particular in /etc/ ? |
| 17:54.08 | admin1 | list |
| 17:54.20 | admin1 | hello |
| 17:54.23 | file-exists-p | at the moment I 'find -name "*~"' :) |
| 17:54.44 | admin1 | list |
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| 18:04.31 | llutz | file-exists-p: dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' '*' | awk 'OFS=" "{print $2,$1}' | md5sum -c 2>/dev/null | awk -F': ' '$2 !~ /OK/{print $1}' |
| 18:04.50 | Agiofws | anyone here using ICEDOVE ? |
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| 18:09.11 | nkuttler | Agiofws: no |
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| 18:09.32 | fuso | saluti |
| 18:09.40 | fuso | !lista |
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| 18:10.28 | peterrooney | !poll |
| 18:10.29 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
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| 18:11.29 | astruasdh | tar czf x.tar.gz dir/file.txt. This way, when I unpack x.tar.gz, the "dir" directory is created. How can I create x.tar.gz without the "dir" path appearing? |
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| 18:17.36 | llutz | astruasdh: tar czf x.tar.gz -C dir file.txt |
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| 18:20.27 | Agiofws | is anyone here using thunderbird or Icedove ? |
| 18:20.29 | Agiofws | nkuttler, whatst he irc network you suggested this morning gmt+2 |
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| 18:20.48 | xand | Agiofws: yes. |
| 18:20.55 | Agiofws | yes ? |
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| 18:22.35 | jelly-home | yes, someone in here is likely to be using tb or its rebrand, so you can ask the real question instead |
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| 18:22.51 | xand | Agiofws: 2011-11-24 18:20:27 < Agiofws> is anyone here using thunderbird or Icedove ? |
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| 18:27.19 | Agiofws | ok real question is |
| 18:28.09 | Agiofws | in the address book it had a NICE collected address List which has disappeared does anyone know anything about this ? thank you ... |
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| 18:29.14 | jhutchins_lt | Agiofws: Like addresses collected from received email? |
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| 18:30.26 | Agiofws | jhutchins_lt, yes ... |
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| 18:30.40 | Agiofws | should i send one to myself or something ? |
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| 18:31.04 | Agiofws | i just don't get it why it disappeared |
| 18:31.13 | Agiofws | it was very helpful |
| 18:31.48 | jhutchins_lt | Agiofws: Dunno either, I use kmail. You might find someone in #firefox who knows. Which version do you have? |
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| 18:32.24 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/185463 |
| 18:32.43 | Agiofws | That one ^^ |
| 18:33.19 | Agiofws | is there an active thunderbird channel on another irc network ? |
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| 18:33.52 | xand | Agiofws: irc.mozilla.org IIRC. |
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| 18:34.24 | Agiofws | ok |
| 18:34.25 | Agiofws | thanks |
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| 18:35.11 | ompaul | Agiofws: I arrived late but abook.mab should be in one of the top level dirs under .mozilla-thunderbird if I understand you right |
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| 18:36.39 | Agiofws | ok |
| 18:37.05 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:~/.mozilla$ls |
| 18:37.05 | Agiofws | appreg eclipse extensions firefox plugins |
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| 18:38.55 | ompaul | Agiofws: look at the dir again |
| 18:39.01 | ompaul | mozilla-thunderbird |
| 18:39.04 | ompaul | not mozilla |
| 18:39.22 | peterrooney | Agiofws: might help to look in ~/.icedove too |
| 18:39.36 | ompaul | lovely |
| 18:39.44 | ompaul | I forgot that evil trick |
| 18:39.56 | ompaul | hugs his kmail - moved to it and have not looked back |
| 18:40.25 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:~/.icedove/uda190vl.default$ls |
| 18:40.25 | Agiofws | abook.mab |
| 18:40.32 | ompaul | is that what you want? |
| 18:40.36 | Agiofws | is it ? |
| 18:40.36 | xand | my only addresses are in ldap |
| 18:40.39 | Agiofws | LOL |
| 18:40.40 | xand | and email in imap |
| 18:40.40 | ompaul | the address book direction |
| 18:40.56 | Agiofws | do you know what my issue is ? |
| 18:41.09 | ompaul | Agiofws: go on |
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| 18:41.38 | Agiofws | collected addresses are not showing UP all i get is a blank address page... |
| 18:42.08 | ompaul | Agiofws: ls -al that file |
| 18:42.14 | ompaul | Agiofws: what did you use previously? |
| 18:42.35 | ompaul | and is there another top level dir if you upgraded which might contain that little beauty |
| 18:42.39 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:~/.icedove/uda190vl.default$ls -al abook.mab |
| 18:42.39 | Agiofws | -rw-r--r-- 1 agiofws agiofws 2106 Nov 22 19:24 abook.mab |
| 18:42.51 | Agiofws | i used mutt |
| 18:43.16 | ompaul | that's not very large but when you send mails they collect in that file |
| 18:43.37 | Agiofws | well it does not i guess |
| 18:43.52 | Agiofws | i've sent quiet a few ... tday |
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| 18:44.01 | ompaul | send yourself a mail and then test the file size for changes |
| 18:44.21 | ompaul | Agiofws: I suspect you have more than one of them ls -al .icedove |
| 18:44.46 | ompaul | Agiofws: it works for me in the office (company standard mail client) |
| 18:44.50 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/185464 |
| 18:44.53 | ompaul | but personally kmail for the win |
| 18:45.12 | Agiofws | giofws@ixus:~/.icedove$ls |
| 18:45.12 | Agiofws | profiles.ini uda190vl.default |
| 18:45.19 | Agiofws | in /etc ? |
| 18:45.21 | ompaul | na |
| 18:45.24 | ompaul | it is a user hting |
| 18:45.26 | ompaul | thing |
| 18:45.40 | ompaul | so send yourself a mail and see if that file grows |
| 18:45.43 | Agiofws | ok |
| 18:45.50 | ompaul | send yourself a mail at some other random address you have |
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| 18:47.01 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:~/.icedove/uda190vl.default$ls -al abook.mab |
| 18:47.04 | Agiofws | -rw-r--r-- 1 agiofws agiofws 2106 Nov 22 19:24 abook.mab |
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| 18:47.43 | mufflon | hi |
| 18:47.44 | Agiofws | the strange thing is that auto completion works |
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| 18:49.27 | surf | hi I just bought a 26" 1920x1200. Debian recognizes just the 1024x768 resolution on the VGA exit. How can I configure it? If I type xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1920x1080 --output LVDS --off it says : 1920x1200 not found |
| 18:51.41 | nkuttler | surf: are you sure your graphics card can do 1920x1080 ? |
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| 18:53.35 | surf | damn I didn't check it... I have a thinkpad T400 with integrated intel... |
| 18:54.26 | philpem | I've just fixed the build for the 'gpib' source package, and updated it to the latest mainline (with a few patches from SVN to make it work on newer kernels). If I want to submit this patch for inclusion, what do I need to do? |
| 18:55.20 | surf | nkuttler, I don't want to replicate monitors, just I would like to have 1920x1200 on the VGA... |
| 18:56.17 | GNU\colossus | surf, should be possible. does the VGA output list a mode named 1920x1200 in the output of `xrandr`? |
| 18:56.29 | surf | nkuttler, ok I see on the net that somebody used it at 1920x1200 so it is possible |
| 18:56.45 | surf | GNU\colossus, how can I check it? just run xrandr? |
| 18:56.51 | GNU\colossus | yes |
| 18:57.09 | surf | it says VGA1 connected -> 1024x768 |
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| 18:57.29 | GNU\colossus | there's no list of modes? |
| 18:57.50 | nkuttler | surf: you might have to create an xorg.conf and specify the resolutions you want to use |
| 18:58.02 | nkuttler | !tell surf about configure x |
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| 18:58.09 | GNU\colossus | he can do that on the fly |
| 18:58.10 | GNU\colossus | using randr |
| 18:58.32 | GNU\colossus | you'll have to create a modeline first, using, for instance, gtf: `gtf 1920 1200 60` |
| 18:58.35 | surf | nkuttler, right now I don't have a xorg.conf but I tried xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1920x1080 --output LVDS --off and it doesn't work |
| 18:58.55 | surf | I don't get it... |
| 18:59.02 | surf | where shall I create the modeline? in xorg? |
| 18:59.07 | GNU\colossus | surf, just exercise patience ;) |
| 18:59.13 | GNU\colossus | gtf will put out some text |
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| 18:59.24 | GNU\colossus | you'll need to have that output |
| 18:59.28 | GNU\colossus | in order to feed X with a modeline |
| 18:59.41 | GNU\colossus | I get this: "Modeline "1920x1080_60.00" 172.80 1920 2040 2248 2576 1080 1081 1084 1118 -HSync +Vsync" |
| 19:00.04 | GNU\colossus | no, you add that mode to your X server, by using xrandr: |
| 19:00.14 | GNU\colossus | xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00" 172.80 1920 2040 2248 2576 1080 1081 1084 1118 -HSync +Vsync |
| 19:00.14 | Agiofws | does anyone know why my collected addresses in icedove has disappeared or why icedove refuses to collect addresses when i receive or send email ? |
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| 19:00.31 | GNU\colossus | surf, does that work so far? |
| 19:00.53 | surf | GNU\colossus, mmm ok but all those numbers starting from 172.80 give me headache :) |
| 19:01.11 | GNU\colossus | just ignore it, they are derived from resolution and refresh rate specified |
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| 19:01.31 | GNU\colossus | well, if the last command succeeded, you have a mode named "1920x1080_60.00" now |
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| 19:01.43 | acu | Latest stable linux kernel is 3.1.2 - what kernel is Debian Wheezy running on ? - Is it freezing soon ? - How long it takes usually from a freeze to final release 6 Months ? |
| 19:01.51 | surf | ok so xrandr --newmode "1920x1200_60.00"? |
| 19:01.59 | GNU\colossus | no *sigh* |
| 19:02.02 | GNU\colossus | why don't you do as I say? |
| 19:02.10 | GNU\colossus | anyway, afk for a sec, my car just got delivered |
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| 19:02.57 | ompaul | ,kernels |
| 19:02.58 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.1-1); wheezy: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.1-1); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-38); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
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| 19:03.13 | ompaul | who knows and yes |
| 19:03.24 | jelly-home | acu: I don't think you're going to see a freeze in the next 12 months |
| 19:03.56 | acu | thanks o so wheeze is amazingly close to current stable - what did it change? |
| 19:04.12 | ompaul | kde gnome perl |
| 19:04.21 | ompaul | and lots more |
| 19:04.25 | jelly-home | python? |
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| 19:04.38 | jelly-home | and everything else! |
| 19:04.40 | jelly-home | except wine. |
| 19:04.41 | ompaul | hehe |
| 19:04.47 | ompaul | yaay wine must die |
| 19:04.53 | acu | Cool: I am happy |
| 19:05.18 | jelly-home | I'm using a commercial fork instead |
| 19:05.18 | acu | ompaul: what replaces wine ? |
| 19:05.18 | dtcrshr | anyone have already exported / imported a debian 64 machine into vmware server? i cant get the network to funcion... |
| 19:05.30 | surf | GNU\colossus, ok I did everything. Sorry I lost a message before :) Ok, now I added the modeline to X and if I run xrandr I see it in the end |
| 19:05.38 | jelly-home | dtcrshr: which debian release? |
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| 19:06.23 | jelly-home | !tell dtcrshr about 70 |
| 19:06.42 | jelly-home | my wild guess is you're hitting the changed MAC address issue |
| 19:07.19 | mufflon | surf: perhaps its a clue to have a look in man xrandr (examples at the end) |
| 19:07.23 | ompaul | acu: nothing it just has to die |
| 19:07.43 | TheWarden | okay, I have a server that is local to the LAN and I want to send emails and system emails to an given email address.. it would act much like a client then a server for email. How can I achieve this? I tried using .forward but that didn't work as it comes up with the follower error message. |
| 19:07.58 | TheWarden | Mailing to remote domains not supported |
| 19:08.11 | TheWarden | also keep in mind there is no local DNS. |
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| 19:09.52 | GNU\colossus | surf, good. now you just need to associate your VGA output with the new mode |
| 19:10.00 | GNU\colossus | like so: |
| 19:10.04 | GNU\colossus | xrandr --addmode "VGA-1" "1920x1080_60.00" |
| 19:10.14 | GNU\colossus | (if VGA-1 is the name of your output. yours might differ.) |
| 19:10.26 | GNU\colossus | if that succeeds, you just need to do |
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| 19:10.32 | surf | yep I reached that line of the man :) |
| 19:10.36 | surf | lemme try it |
| 19:10.38 | GNU\colossus | xrandr --output VGA-1 --mode "1920x1080_60.00" |
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| 19:10.44 | GNU\colossus | and the mode should be set |
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| 19:12.01 | surf | GNU\colossus, ok did it and now in xrandr in VGA1 i see the 1920x1200 mode |
| 19:12.40 | surf | now just that command again right? the xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1920x1200 |
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| 19:15.02 | dtcrshr | im on etch |
| 19:15.10 | dtcrshr | will give a try on this renaming to eth0 |
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| 19:15.20 | boudiccas | dtcrshr; thats nice for you :) |
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| 19:15.35 | TheWarden | for what I'm looking for is this the correct steps under Exim, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/63? |
| 19:15.44 | indro | hi all |
| 19:15.57 | indro | anyone know in which package is the "host" command in debian sid? |
| 19:16.25 | llutz | bind9-host indro |
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| 19:17.22 | indro | llutz: thx but when i use this host command it says "host: dst_lib_init: openssl failure" |
| 19:17.25 | indro | any idea whats wrong? |
| 19:17.45 | llutz | indro: sry no |
| 19:18.18 | indro | llutz: ok, thx anyway. ;) |
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| 19:19.18 | TheWarden | keep in mind my server will not be receiving inbound email only those sent by the system and my applications for outbound. |
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| 19:21.00 | indro | hm, with "dig" i get the same error. :/ |
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| 19:23.46 | surf | GNU\colossus, did it, now the resolution is right but I can't read... I don't know how to explain well but it's impossible to read there are strange shadows near each letter |
| 19:24.16 | GNU\colossus | surf, maybe the VGA out of your notebook sucks, or the VGA in of your display is crap. or the cable in between. |
| 19:27.05 | indro | installed libssl1.0.0, now it works, yay! :) |
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| 19:28.45 | surf | it's a T400 with an integrated intel. I saw this situation also with other monitors and in winzoz there are several options to regulate this behaviour. Is there anything similar to remove the blurry texts in debian? |
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| 19:35.38 | praetor | How do I get my Vostro microphone working in Debian |
| 19:35.43 | praetor | Dell Vostro Laptop |
| 19:36.04 | praetor | there's a solution online for Ubuntu, but that's using an ubuntu package and someone here told me that I shouldn't combine Ubuntu packages with squeeze |
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| 19:36.38 | dtcrshr | well, after commenting the lines in z25_persistent-net.rules, and changed the last line to eth0, also updating /etc/networking/interfaces to eth0 static, the eth0 wont show, instead in ifconfig -a i have still eth2, with 169.254 ip |
| 19:36.44 | dtcrshr | is there any other place i missed? |
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| 19:37.27 | praetor | this is what I hate |
| 19:38.11 | praetor | Is anyone here? |
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| 19:38.28 | cahoot | praetor, you might 'possibly' have better luck with gamix (another mixer app) |
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| 19:40.13 | cahoot | praetor, also - abusing people in #debian is a rather poor way to induce help |
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| 19:42.15 | jelly-home | dtcrshr: and a reboot? |
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| 19:46.56 | praetor | How do I get my Vostro microphone working in Debian |
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| 19:47.06 | praetor | WHY DOESN'T ANY PERSON ANSWER? |
| 19:47.43 | praetor | BA-HA_BAH" |
| 19:47.47 | boudiccas | praetor; partly your attitude and partly because we dont use that exact model of mic so we dont know |
| 19:47.52 | nkuttler | bye |
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| 19:48.11 | _0bitcount | praetor, this is not 'customer service'. |
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| 19:48.40 | praetor | IT'S A STANDARD microphone jack, same size as analog earphone only analog microphone |
| 19:49.02 | NikLP | wonders where this will end up |
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| 19:49.17 | cahoot | praetor, you seem to lack an input channel |
| 19:49.17 | praetor | I mean, is there a guide for Debian users on how to get it to work while already booted |
| 19:49.19 | NikLP | messages dpkg guidelines :) |
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| 19:51.04 | NikLP | may I ask if you guys have a preferred online repository for docs regarding "how to be a total god at web server admin"? :) I have some skills, but I don't know where the gaps are; I need some sort of resource to identify and plug these (quickly) |
| 19:51.38 | praetor | Maybe this is why people have left Debian for Mint or Ubuntu, because THE CRAPPY PEOPLE WHO USE DEBIAN ARE BRAINDEAD PEOPLE LIK EHER EWHO DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO USE THE OPERATING SYSTEM |
| 19:51.45 | praetor | FUCK A DIG DOG DUGGAN |
| 19:51.46 | mindbender1 | please I'm getting a corrupted display after resuming from hibernate.. how can I resolve this. Actually my screen fonts has noise in them as I type now I'm barely managing to see. I had to get in here like that so that I can troubleshooot or get the logs.. so please advice |
| 19:51.57 | praetor | ASSHOLES WON'T EVEN ANSWER QUESTIONS |
| 19:52.13 | praetor | GO SHIT ON A DING |
| 19:52.23 | praetor | Shiddy fuckin scrap rabbit |
| 19:52.55 | boudiccas | praetor; its because of your attitude, we are all volunteers and not your slave. modify your attiude and people will be more willing to help you |
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| 19:53.12 | nicksb | lol tsk |
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| 19:53.58 | praetor | IT'S A STANDARD microphone jack, same size as analog earphone only analog microphone |
| 19:54.02 | praetor | How do I get my Vostro microphone working in Debian |
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| 19:54.10 | praetor | there's a solution online for Ubuntu, but that's using an ubuntu package and someone here told me that I shouldn't combine Ubuntu packages with squeeze |
| 19:54.40 | jelly-home | mindbender1: can you shift to text console, Ctrl-Alt-F1 and back (to Ctrl-Alt-F7 or so)? Does the text console look as bad? |
| 19:54.50 | praetor | Super Y |
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| 19:54.53 | praetor | Su-Per Why |
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| 19:55.06 | praetor | It's nothing but a MASHED PO-TAY-TUH |
| 19:55.15 | praetor | ome on |
| 19:55.16 | praetor | ANSWER ME |
| 19:55.19 | praetor | How do I get my Vostro microphone working in Debian |
| 19:55.22 | praetor | IT'S A STANDARD microphone jack, same size as analog earphone only analog microphone |
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| 19:55.28 | jelly-home | !ops praetor |
| 19:55.30 | boudiccas | praetor; its because of your attitude, we are all volunteers and not your slave. modify your attiude and people will be more willing to help you |
| 19:55.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: praetor |
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| 19:57.01 | mindbender1 | jelly-home: the text console characters are ok |
| 19:57.20 | mindbender1 | but when back here it still looks distorted |
| 19:58.26 | jelly-home | mindbender1: huh. Well, as a workaround, you might log off from X and log back on. |
| 19:58.42 | jelly-home | defeats the purpose of hibernation I know |
| 19:58.57 | mindbender1 | yes that works in the past but I'm looking for a permanent solution |
| 19:59.19 | mindbender1 | cos if I do that now I'm going to lose a huge amount of work |
| 19:59.27 | jelly-home | mindbender1: which graphic card and driver are you using? There may be an alternative to try. |
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| 20:00.02 | jelly-home | mindbender1: your current session is probably lost already. Save your files if you can see how to. |
| 20:00.04 | mindbender1 | I'm using a toshiba laptop have no idea which graphics card it uses any idea how to check |
| 20:00.12 | praetor | lspci maybe |
| 20:00.16 | jelly-home | mindbender1: lspci -kk |grep VGA |
| 20:00.18 | arghx | lspci -nn tells you |
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| 20:00.42 | jelly-home | right, sorry, lspci -nn |grep VGA |
| 20:00.49 | praetor | I have GeForce 8400 M |
| 20:00.49 | praetor | so |
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| 20:00.55 | praetor | I have a question |
| 20:00.55 | mindbender1 | arghx: is that lspci nn you wrote |
| 20:01.05 | praetor | How do I get a Dell Vostro working |
| 20:01.08 | arghx | jelly-home: -k isn't bad either :) cause then you can check what kernel driver is used and then you know the driver in X too :) |
| 20:01.14 | jelly-home | mindbender1: lspci space minus nn :-) |
| 20:01.17 | praetor | How do I get a Dell Vostro analog microphone port working in Debian while booded |
| 20:01.27 | praetor | maybe edit alsa-base in /etc/modprobe.d? |
| 20:01.32 | praetor | WHY ISN'T ANYONE ANSWERING ME! |
| 20:01.39 | praetor | They answered him but not me! |
| 20:01.41 | praetor | They answered him but not me!! |
| 20:01.42 | jelly-home | praetor: we don't know. Be patient. |
| 20:01.42 | praetor | They answered him but not me!! |
| 20:01.55 | boudiccas | praetor; its because of your attitude, we are all volunteers and not your slave. modify your attiude and people will be more willing to help you |
| 20:02.32 | arghx | mindbender1: glxinfo |grep -i render |
| 20:02.36 | mindbender1 | jelly-home: so there is no log to show what might have gone wrong or is going wrong |
| 20:02.39 | praetor | yeah you answer another person's laptop question, but not mine. What do you have me on, ignore? |
| 20:02.40 | ws2k3 | does anyone have a good website where i can compare amd vs intel cpu's ? |
| 20:02.42 | praetor | **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** |
| 20:02.43 | praetor | card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog] |
| 20:02.43 | praetor | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.43 | praetor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:03.38 | pangolin | praetor: stop being a jackass. |
| 20:03.41 | arghx | praetor: you are very close to get ignored. you cannot just get violent like a little kid when you get no attention. that behaviour assures you will be ignored |
| 20:03.43 | jelly-home | mindbender1: it's a driver issue. There is seldom anything useful in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/kern.log with this kind of visual corruption. |
| 20:04.13 | mindbender1 | ok |
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| 20:04.55 | streuner | praetor: act like a romulan, more cool, maybe that helps :-) |
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| 20:05.32 | arghx | mindbender1: yesterday in debian.de someone had the same problem but with a Geforce Go6600. he got it to work by downgrading the nvidia drivers |
| 20:05.35 | adriano_ | hello |
| 20:05.42 | arghx | mindbender1: so what driver do you use? |
| 20:05.57 | arghx | ws2k3: #hardware |
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| 20:06.52 | adriano_ | on my debian squeeze apache2 is very slow with php pages |
| 20:07.04 | adriano_ | I seen that a bug was opened |
| 20:07.18 | adriano_ | but no solutions...any suggestion? |
| 20:07.42 | arghx | why do you think we have solutions when the bug has none. if we did we'd written it in the bugreport |
| 20:08.06 | adriano_ | I asked a suggestion not solution |
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| 20:08.49 | adriano_ | I want try to discover the bug but I dont know what to do |
| 20:09.03 | mindbender1 | arghx: I can barely see anything I'm just trying to redirect the outputs to files and I'll read them when i log back in and report it |
| 20:09.21 | arghx | mindbender1: use ssh. no screen corruption then |
| 20:09.37 | arghx | as in ssh over to the affected host |
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| 20:10.32 | adriano_ | arghx I'm trying to reinstall the system but I verified the apache slower on workstation and server |
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| 20:11.48 | adriano_ | arghx I found this http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/11/msg00603.html |
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| 20:12.14 | voithia | heyy :( i am so disapointed :( |
| 20:12.24 | adriano_ | voithia me too |
| 20:12.36 | voithia | i want to download debian for my laptop idk how :( |
| 20:12.43 | voithia | sameone to help me :( ? |
| 20:12.58 | adriano_ | voithia download it from the official site |
| 20:13.53 | voithia | how ? i can find the .iso to make a usb boot :( |
| 20:14.13 | adriano_ | voithia what's the problem? |
| 20:15.26 | arghx | !hybrid image |
| 20:15.26 | dpkg | The Debian 6.0/Squeeze installation images for x86 systems - e.g. <netinst>, <businesscard>, <CD1>, DVD1 - are hybrid images. These can be written directly to CD or HD Media (e.g. USB thumbdrive) without further preparation. See http://www.debian.org/News/project/2010/14/#hybrid for details. See also <install debian>, <usb install>. |
| 20:15.26 | mindbender1 | arghx: sorry for slow response.. I've not really had need to ssh before it may take somewhile and I have to save off some work and relogin so please bear with me |
| 20:15.33 | voithia | i cant make it :( i can install ubuntu cuz its so easy only one file ,iso but on ubuntu its soo difflult :( |
| 20:15.41 | arghx | voithia: every debian iso is now usable for usb booting |
| 20:16.30 | voithia | i cant do it with usb boot ? |
| 20:16.56 | voithia | i dont have netbook i have notebook its the same ? :( |
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| 20:17.04 | adriano_ | voithia yes is the same |
| 20:17.05 | arghx | you can. you simply cp debian.iso /dev/sdc (or whatever your usb stick is) and then you can boot from that |
| 20:17.12 | arghx | yes it's the same |
| 20:17.25 | magikfingerz | As an alternative, you can do almost distribution to boot from USB using UnetBootIn: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:17.46 | arghx | voithia: please ignore magikfingerz.he gives bad advice |
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| 20:17.56 | arghx | magikfingerz: please don't suggest unetbootin for debian installs |
| 20:17.59 | rox | magikfingerz: some Debian isos don't play well with unetbootin |
| 20:18.11 | arghx | rox: some as in "all of them" |
| 20:18.24 | cesurasean | has anyone here got monit working on squeeze? i can't seem to get the application to start... it worked fine on lenny... |
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| 20:18.35 | arghx | !tell cesurasean about errors |
| 20:18.56 | magikfingerz | arghx, rox: sorry heard about it, I recommended it because it worked for me... |
| 20:19.16 | voithia | arghx thanks about the advise :P can i ask you samethink ? :p |
| 20:19.18 | adriano_ | the only suggestion for apache2 slower is "use apache mailing lists" |
| 20:19.30 | kery_ | hello all. Anyone can explian to me how to apply this -> http://lwn.net/Articles/426883/ |
| 20:19.31 | arghx | you can ask anything |
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| 20:19.38 | rox | magikfingerz: it worked for me too a while ago, but now the isis have changed and unetbootin doesn't digest them any more |
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| 20:19.57 | adriano_ | no one use debian for professional hosting activity? |
| 20:20.13 | arghx | kery_: use a backports kernel if this patch is in mainline kernel now. and it very much looks like it is |
| 20:20.19 | voithia | can you send me a link for the download site debian gnome from a cd boot i comfused :P |
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| 20:20.28 | rox | adriano_: many people use Debian for professional hosting |
| 20:20.33 | voithia | (sorry about me english i am from greece :P ) |
| 20:20.37 | kery_ | sorry arghx i dont understand :) |
| 20:20.44 | adriano_ | rox but it seems only me have problems with apache2 on squeeze |
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| 20:20.54 | adriano_ | (me and some others) |
| 20:21.06 | rox | adriano_: what kind of problems? |
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| 20:21.16 | slava_ | hello |
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| 20:21.28 | cesurasean | im not getting any error message! |
| 20:21.32 | cesurasean | otherwise i would fix it. |
| 20:21.34 | adriano_ | rox after some minutes apache become very slow with php scripts |
| 20:21.36 | cesurasean | monit just wont start |
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| 20:21.43 | dysoco | I just installed Debian Squeeze DVD, I want to upgrade to Testing, but keeping GNOME2, is that possible ? |
| 20:21.44 | slava_ | obama fucking bastard |
| 20:21.54 | slava_ | no? |
| 20:22.01 | slava_ | yeah |
| 20:22.11 | cesurasean | and before obama was a bastard named bush. :) |
| 20:22.12 | adriano_ | rox this happened on workstation and server with debian squeeze new installation |
| 20:22.19 | NikLP | sorry - my connection was interrupted, not sure what happened with my Q, forgive me if it's misplaced, but I literally have nothing on screen since last time I posted. |
| 20:22.22 | slava_ | fucking american bastard |
| 20:22.22 | NikLP | may I ask if you guys have a preferred online repository for docs regarding "how to be a total god at web server admin"? :) I have some skills, but I don't know where the gaps are; I need some sort of resource to identify and plug these (quickly) |
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| 20:22.29 | slava_ | i hate you |
| 20:22.41 | slava_ | ukrainian power |
| 20:22.58 | adriano_ | so I cant use debian stable on my server now |
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| 20:23.39 | arghx | kery_: get a new kernel from backports |
| 20:23.45 | rox | adriano_: if apache is running too slow for you, then it must be an apache problem, nothing to do with debian per se |
| 20:23.49 | arghx | !tell kery_ about backports kernel |
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| 20:24.26 | rox | adriano_: maybe debian default configuration doesn't play well with the type of traffic you are getting, find an apache tweaking guide and configure apache to suit your needs |
| 20:24.33 | cesurasean | where would i find logs for monit? |
| 20:24.34 | arghx | !tell kery_ about backports |
| 20:24.42 | kery_ | arghx it's not a patch ? |
| 20:25.26 | kery_ | [PATCH] tcp: Increase the initial congestion window to 10. |
| 20:25.27 | rox | voithia: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04.html.en google it next time |
| 20:25.30 | arghx | kery_: you won't need to patch and build you own kernel. this is an official patchlog of the lkml. that means it's in kernels which were made after, e.g. march 2011. the backports kernel is such a kernel |
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| 20:26.35 | kery_ | on kernel i guess congestion window to 10 is set to 3 by default. This patch increase to 10 ? Im false ? |
| 20:26.53 | arghx | kery_: this patch is already included in newer kernels |
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| 20:27.32 | voithia | rox i already do this but i lost it :P |
| 20:27.43 | kery_ | i'm on kernel 2.6.35 |
| 20:28.12 | rox | voithia: you lost google? |
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| 20:28.31 | bellicjr | Is GNOME3 in Testing ? |
| 20:28.38 | rox | voithia: google doesn't mind if you ask it the same thing twice |
| 20:28.39 | erpupone | !lista |
| 20:28.46 | erpupone | !list |
| 20:28.47 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
| 20:28.57 | ozst | which is the preferred / shipped-with Mail Delivery Agent of Debian (testing) |
| 20:28.59 | erpupone | perche'? |
| 20:29.00 | arghx | erpupone: where did you learnt to use !list on IRC? |
| 20:29.21 | arghx | erpupone: why is the first thing you type in a channel !list ? |
| 20:29.35 | rox | ozst: exim, AFAIK |
| 20:29.36 | voithia | i lost the way to do it |
| 20:29.38 | arghx | ozst: exim is installed normally |
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| 20:29.48 | ozst | rox, arghx thanks |
| 20:29.48 | arghx | voithia: there is no way. I told you what to do it |
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| 20:30.08 | arghx | ozst: but probably as many people use postfix :) |
| 20:30.25 | voithia | okay thanks all about telling the same bb :) |
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| 20:31.37 | giannuzzo | ciao |
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| 20:31.46 | giannuzzo | !help |
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| 20:32.23 | ozst | arghx, right. I'll have a look at postfix as well. notice that exim is already running on my system, though |
| 20:32.34 | kery_ | arghx, so i just need to install kernel from testing backport ? |
| 20:33.00 | arghx | kery_: no you need to install the kernel from squeeze backports. 2.6.39 |
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| 20:36.22 | mindbender1 | arghx: I this line from lspci -kk|grep VGA '00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)' |
| 20:36.36 | Pupskucheen | Hey guys |
| 20:36.36 | Pupskucheen | I accidentally typed: " chmod 755 -R /* " can I revoke that? |
| 20:36.43 | DelTree | why do packages never rebuild ? |
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| 20:37.53 | kery_ | linux-image-2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64 - Linux 2.6.39 for 64-bit PCs is ok then ? |
| 20:38.00 | kery_ | arghx |
| 20:38.02 | magikfingerz | Pupskucheen: how in the life that can be possible... :O |
| 20:38.15 | Pupskucheen | good question |
| 20:38.31 | arghx | kery_: yes |
| 20:38.38 | Pupskucheen | But I don't know the answer, I'm a unix beginner^^ |
| 20:38.42 | arghx | Pupskucheen: no |
| 20:38.44 | magikfingerz | Pupskucheen: AFAIK, only a reinstall |
| 20:38.50 | kery_ | thanks for help arghx |
| 20:38.54 | kery_ | i will try this :p |
| 20:39.00 | arghx | mindbender1: glxinfo |grep -i render |
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| 20:41.10 | Pupskucheen | arghx, magikfingerz: Do you recommend to reinstall? |
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| 20:41.56 | arghx | Pupskucheen: unfortunately yes |
| 20:42.05 | magikfingerz | yep... |
| 20:42.14 | Pupskucheen | second reinstall lol |
| 20:42.45 | NikLP | careful :) |
| 20:42.56 | Pupskucheen | I should learn to manage debian <.< |
| 20:43.08 | magikfingerz | Well GNU/Linux is for have fun too :D |
| 20:43.15 | rox | Pupskucheen: you can't revoke that, but generally your system will still run |
| 20:43.20 | mindbender1 | arghx: I get 'direct rendering: Yes |
| 20:43.20 | mindbender1 | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2 |
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| 20:43.33 | adriano_ | rox I simply install webserver with wordpress cms |
| 20:43.33 | rox | Pupskucheen: it's not a healthy situation, though |
| 20:43.47 | Pupskucheen | linux should add a revoke command :( |
| 20:43.48 | adriano_ | I dont generate a particular traffic |
| 20:44.01 | rox | adriano_: so what is slow about it? |
| 20:44.17 | rox | adriano_: try it without wordpress and see response time |
| 20:44.27 | arghx | mindbender1: then you don't use nvidia |
| 20:44.31 | deadalnix | export(C++) and shared doesn't play well with each other :'( |
| 20:44.35 | arghx | mindbender1: what laptop is this again? |
| 20:44.41 | deadalnix | sorry wrong chan :/ |
| 20:44.56 | adriano_ | rox it works fine with static html pages but it is slow with wordpresso, ispconfig, whmcs, joomla etc |
| 20:45.22 | rox | adriano_: then your problem is either in PHP or in databases |
| 20:45.24 | arghx | mindbender1: what version of xorg do you run? |
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| 20:45.30 | adriano_ | rox http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/11/msg00603.html |
| 20:45.43 | adriano_ | rox I think is in database |
| 20:45.50 | adriano_ | sorry, I think is in php |
| 20:46.00 | Pupskucheen | Is there a list of custom packages I installed? |
| 20:46.02 | mindbender1 | arghx: Toshiba Satelite Pro L300 - 19 Q System Unit |
| 20:46.20 | Pupskucheen | A list of packages so I dont have to search for every single one |
| 20:47.04 | arghx | !tell Pupskucheen about debian clone |
| 20:47.16 | arghx | Pupskucheen: that creates a list of ALL packages you installed |
| 20:47.16 | mindbender1 | arghx: please what's the command to know Xorg version again |
| 20:47.18 | adriano_ | rox initially it works fine, after 3 or 4 minutes it become slow |
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| 20:47.33 | arghx | adriano_: that sounds like memory exhausted |
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| 20:47.43 | arghx | mindbender1: dpkg -l xorg |
| 20:47.52 | magikfingerz | adriano_: check memory with: mem |
| 20:48.00 | adriano_ | arghx could be if you want I can show you the website |
| 20:48.09 | adriano_ | so you can see the problem |
| 20:48.35 | rox | adriano_: i have no idea what the problem is, but i suggest you investigate, try profiling your webserver response, break it down and find the bottleneck |
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| 20:49.21 | mindbender1 | arghx: Xorg version is '1:7.6+9' |
| 20:49.41 | mindbender1 | I'm using debian sid btw |
| 20:49.42 | adriano_ | I can link the test site? |
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| 20:50.08 | arghx | mindbender1: then I wish you good luck |
| 20:50.11 | rox | adriano_: i'm sorry, i don't really have time to profile it for you, please do it yourself |
| 20:50.33 | adriano_ | ok thanks you rox |
| 20:50.40 | arghx | rox: kinda hard to do it when you lack server access anyways... |
| 20:50.47 | mindbender1 | arghx: why? |
| 20:50.52 | Pupskucheen | I dont get the clone command :| |
| 20:50.59 | rox | arghx: that too :-/ |
| 20:51.04 | cesurasean | guys, i installed monit, and im seeing this in my syslog, but i can't access it via 192.168.1.3: , like i should! - Nov 24 14:45:08 loadbalancer monit[2596]: Starting monit daemon with http interface at [*:2812] |
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| 20:51.49 | adriano_ | ok I'm trying it go offline in this moment |
| 20:51.59 | adriano_ | It worked 30 seconds ago |
| 20:52.08 | arghx | mindbender1: cause you run sid |
| 20:52.24 | mindbender1 | arghx: is sid no good? I have been experiencing this when I was using squeeze and it was one of the reasons I upgraded |
| 20:52.27 | arghx | cesurasean: check via netstat |
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| 20:52.39 | arghx | !sid |
| 20:52.39 | dpkg | The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 20:52.43 | cesurasean | arghx, chck for what? |
| 20:52.47 | mindbender1 | coupled problems with network manager |
| 20:52.52 | rox | Pupskucheen: dpkg --get-selections outputs a list of packages installed on your system |
| 20:53.13 | arghx | cesurasean: if something listens and if so what |
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| 20:53.24 | mindbender1 | arghx: anyway you can just give me some pointers I'll appreciate that |
| 20:53.26 | Pupskucheen | rox: should I run that as root? |
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| 20:53.39 | adriano_ | rox it is locked. mem used 149848k, mem free 1368232k |
| 20:53.45 | rox | Pupskucheen: you can store that list in a file and on another system you feed it to the command dpkg --set-selections, which will then install the same packages, that were instaled on the initial system |
| 20:53.52 | Pupskucheen | oh wtf, my terminal is fucked up -.- |
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| 20:54.44 | rox | adriano_: looks like memory is not your problem then |
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| 20:55.02 | adriano_ | rox I'm using top I see 1 zombie process |
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| 20:55.39 | rox | adriano_: well, if the zombie has anything to do with your DB or PHP, then that is your answer |
| 20:55.52 | mindbender1 | arghx: are there some other authorities on the matter I could talk to? |
| 20:55.54 | Pupskucheen | rox: my terminal is not working.... |
| 20:56.22 | adriano_ | rox how can I see what is zombie process? |
| 20:56.27 | rox | Pupskucheen: might be the result of your chmod -R |
| 20:56.34 | Pupskucheen | orly? :D |
| 20:56.42 | rox | adriano_: well, the name of the process should tell you |
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| 20:57.42 | adriano_ | rox top tell me only there is 1 zombie process |
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| 20:58.31 | Pupskucheen | rox: Can I forget the list of command now? |
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| 20:58.56 | rox | adriano_: ps aux | grep " Z " |
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| 20:59.41 | rox | Pupskucheen: hmm, if i were you, i'd try to boot into single user and try to stpre dpkg --get-selections there |
| 20:59.58 | adriano_ | rox [sh] |
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| 21:00.10 | Pupskucheen | rox: "boot into single user" ? |
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| 21:01.55 | rox | Pupskucheen: hmm, on your boot menu select one of the "single user mode" options |
| 21:02.19 | Pupskucheen | hm |
| 21:02.25 | Pupskucheen | I'll reboot and see what comes |
| 21:02.34 | Pupskucheen | rox: where will that show up? |
| 21:02.37 | rox | Pupskucheen: when you reboot, you get a grub boot menu for a few seconds and if you don't select an option, it boots into the default one |
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| 21:03.18 | rox | Pupskucheen: by default, for each kernel you have one regular boot option and one "single user mode" option |
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| 21:03.40 | rox | Pupskucheen: but considering the state of your system, i am not even sure it will boot |
| 21:04.03 | rox | Pupskucheen: but in single user it might, so if i were you, i'd try it out |
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| 21:04.40 | rox | Pupskucheen: dpkg --get-selections > stored_packages.txt is not too hard to remember, but you can also write it down |
| 21:05.09 | Pupskucheen | rox: "Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue)" what to do? root pass or continue? |
| 21:05.19 | rox | Pupskucheen: root pass |
| 21:05.33 | rox | Pupskucheen: ctrl-D will take you to regular boot |
| 21:05.58 | adriano_ | rox I'm sure the problem is php, I loaded simple phpinfo page and it do the same problem. Html pages are ok |
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| 21:06.35 | rox | adriano_: then you have your answer |
| 21:06.45 | adriano_ | ok rox but I dont know what to do |
| 21:06.47 | Pupskucheen | rox: and now dpkg --get-selections > /home/pups/packages ? |
| 21:08.01 | rox | Pupskucheen: that will store your installed package list into the file called "packages" in your home dir |
| 21:08.10 | Pupskucheen | yes |
| 21:08.28 | Pupskucheen | hmm, Can I directly save it to my USB stick? |
| 21:08.35 | rox | adriano_: hmm, i don't really have an idea either, maybe you shouild ask people in #apache or #php |
| 21:08.43 | rox | Pupskucheen: can you mount it? |
| 21:08.50 | arghx | !tell adriano_ about zombie |
| 21:09.07 | rox | Pupskucheen: stick it in, if you are in single user, it probably won't mount automatically |
| 21:09.16 | adriano_ | thanks you arghx |
| 21:09.22 | Pupskucheen | rox: I dont know, but I can remember I could mount it when I was in rescue mode |
| 21:09.25 | rox | Pupskucheen: then find your usb stick device using fdiks -l |
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| 21:09.49 | rox | Pupskucheen: well, single user mode is called rescue more in some distros |
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| 21:10.13 | adriano_ | rox firstly I want try on a new installation with only apache2 and php5 module without ispconfig etc.. |
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| 21:10.35 | rox | adriano_: did you try to downgrade php or something like that? |
| 21:11.14 | adriano_ | rox no I didn't becouse I must use php 5.3 :( |
| 21:11.19 | rox | adriano_: if you are trying to determine your problem by trial and error, then you could replace your software versions and see if that helps |
| 21:11.41 | Pupskucheen | rox: that system : extended one? |
| 21:11.44 | adriano_ | rox yes I could try |
| 21:11.47 | arghx | ,versions php5 |
| 21:11.49 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny13; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny13; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze3; sid: 5.3.6-7; sid: 5.3.8.0-1; wheezy: 5.3.8.0-1; experimental: 5.4.0~beta2-1 |
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| 21:12.10 | rox | adriano_: the problem is, that phpinfo() pretty much queries all PHP functionality, so you only know that the problem is PHP related, nothing else |
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| 21:12.33 | rox | Pupskucheen: i don't know what you are talking about |
| 21:12.50 | adriano_ | yes rox but I cant downgrade the version becouse I must use 5.3 minimal |
| 21:12.57 | Pupskucheen | rox: there are 3 devices |
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| 21:13.14 | rox | Pupskucheen: ok, so the first one would probably be your disk |
| 21:13.29 | Pupskucheen | rox: with System: Linix, Extended, Linux swap / Solaris |
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| 21:13.49 | rox | Pupskucheen: ahhhh, no, you are trying to repartition it |
| 21:14.14 | rox | Pupskucheen: i told you to run fdisk -l, which owuld only list your available partitions, so you know which one to mount |
| 21:14.18 | Pupskucheen | rox: I'm doing what you're saying |
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| 21:14.36 | rox | Pupskucheen: get out of fdisk, make sure you don't save anything |
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| 21:14.53 | rox | Pupskucheen: then run "fdisk -l" without any further arguments |
| 21:15.05 | rox | Pupskucheen: that should list your available partitions |
| 21:15.13 | Pupskucheen | rox: it shows a table |
| 21:15.15 | rox | Pupskucheen: then try to mount the last one listed |
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| 21:15.25 | atruno- | can anyone point me to a very good website that will help make my debian fonts appear nicer for instance in xchat ? i had to change my default font because the previous one didn't look too great. |
| 21:16.08 | rox | Pupskucheen: see the leftmost column |
| 21:16.14 | rox | Pupskucheen: that gives you device names |
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| 21:16.16 | Pupskucheen | rox: whats the mount command with arguments? |
| 21:16.18 | Pupskucheen | yeah |
| 21:16.39 | rox | Pupskucheen: did you determine the device name of your usb drive partition? |
| 21:17.19 | rox | Pupskucheen: then it's mount /dev/sdc1 /media/cdrom0 |
| 21:17.22 | Pupskucheen | the right column ("System") Shows Linux (dev/sda1), System (dev/sda2) and Linux swap / Solaris (dev/sda5) |
| 21:17.58 | rox | Pupskucheen: note, that you have to replace the "/dev/sdc1" argument with whatever the last device output by fdisk was |
| 21:18.00 | Pupskucheen | * the second one is "Extended", not "system" |
| 21:18.12 | rox | Pupskucheen: left column is what interests you |
| 21:19.08 | Pupskucheen | rox: so the last one listed? |
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| 21:19.17 | Pupskucheen | Two of them a nearly the same |
| 21:19.31 | rox | Pupskucheen: they are all nearly the same, they are all /dev/sdXX |
| 21:19.32 | |chickalic | A romulan preator a mashed potator |
| 21:19.37 | |chickalic | ree dee deet doo doo SUICIDE! |
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| 21:19.51 | |chickalic | f " j - _ |
| 21:19.52 | |chickalic | ANSWER PEOPLE'S FUCKING QUESTIONS |
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| 21:20.18 | rox | abrotman: thank you |
| 21:20.19 | abrotman | people .. use the !ops command to call for help |
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| 21:20.27 | praetor | Yeah anyway |
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| 21:20.32 | praetor | Why doesn't anyone answer my question |
| 21:20.38 | praetor | How do I get a Dell Vostro analog microphone port working in Debian while booded |
| 21:20.52 | abrotman | booted ? |
| 21:20.55 | makayabou | Hi, get this error message I don't understand: makayabou@makayabou-testing:~$ xterm -e ls |
| 21:20.55 | makayabou | No protocol specified |
| 21:20.55 | makayabou | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0 |
| 21:20.55 | praetor | yes |
| 21:21.00 | philpem | praetor, is it enabled in the sound mixer? |
| 21:21.07 | makayabou | What's appened? |
| 21:21.12 | praetor | I'm trying to record using the analog microphone with a working analog microphone in Debian |
| 21:21.20 | Pupskucheen | rox: mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 21:21.22 | praetor | Yes, it's enabled in the GNOME ALSA mixer |
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| 21:21.42 | rox | Pupskucheen: what device are you trying to mount?0 |
| 21:22.00 | Pupskucheen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.15 | philpem | praetor, are there any Switch options for it? sometimes there's "Mic amp" or "recording input source" which need to be set correctly |
| 21:22.19 | praetor | There's a checkbox that says "Rec" what's that? |
| 21:22.22 | praetor | alright |
| 21:22.26 | praetor | I see Mic Boostbut no mic |
| 21:22.34 | rox | Pupskucheen: it is not /dev/sda2, it should be sdb or scd |
| 21:22.35 | praetor | Then an empty check box saying "Rec" |
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| 21:22.48 | Pupskucheen | rox: wait, my USB stick is not plugged... xD |
| 21:23.03 | philpem | hang on a sec, just need to find out if there's a quick way to dump a full list of all the ALSA mixer/selector options :) |
| 21:23.08 | rox | Pupskucheen: right, plug it in, then run fdisk -l again, see the last device, then mount it |
| 21:23.33 | philpem | OK, open a console. Run "alsamixer". |
| 21:23.50 | philpem | F6 for "Select Sound Card". What do you have listed? |
| 21:23.58 | Pupskucheen | rox: erm....some stuff cam when I plugged it... |
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| 21:25.16 | Pupskucheen | rox: Seems like it's mounted |
| 21:25.34 | philpem | praetor, so yeah.. open a terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal). enter the command alsamixer and hit enter. |
| 21:25.53 | philpem | praetor, F6. what sound cards do you have listed? |
| 21:26.54 | Pupskucheen | rox: It's now mounted |
| 21:27.31 | rox | Pupskucheen: well, now you can copy your file to it |
| 21:28.02 | rox | Pupskucheen: well, you have to see wher it is mounted |
| 21:28.04 | Pupskucheen | rox: dpkg --get-selections > /media/cdrom0/packages ? |
| 21:28.16 | Pupskucheen | i mounted it myself |
| 21:28.19 | rox | Pupskucheen: is it mounted to /media/cdrom0 ? |
| 21:28.22 | Pupskucheen | yes |
| 21:28.31 | rox | Pupskucheen: then that command should do it |
| 21:28.48 | magikfingerz | adriano_: maybe you could try something less invasive to test another version of PHP/Apache, install XAMPP (http://apachefriends.org) it is self-contained and does not modify anything on your system, and once you don't needit anymore simpy delete a directory... |
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| 21:29.33 | Pupskucheen | rox: file is there, I opened it with vi ... how to close it?^^ |
| 21:29.39 | rox | Pupskucheen: make sure you unmount it before you unplug it |
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| 21:29.58 | rox | Pupskucheen: <escape>:q<enter> |
| 21:30.10 | adriano_ | Now I installed only apache2 mod-php5 and php5. I'm trying a simple phpinfo page and it works fine |
| 21:30.11 | rox | Pupskucheen: escape, then :q then enter |
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| 21:30.32 | adriano_ | maybe the problem could be mysql |
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| 21:30.51 | ex-parrot | I acknowledge that this is a dumb question. My squeeze boxes have all started telling me there's an update for the linux-image-2.6.32-amd64 package however the changelog for the package doesn't have any changes since October |
| 21:30.59 | ex-parrot | is it likely that a change from october is only getting pushed now? |
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| 21:31.30 | thewanderer1 | hey, there's pbzip2 for parallel bzip2 processing. any such tool for xz? it's painfully slow... |
| 21:31.30 | Pupskucheen | rox: How to unmount it? |
| 21:31.36 | Pupskucheen | rox: umount? |
| 21:32.09 | rox | Pupskucheen: yes, umount <mountpoint> |
| 21:32.13 | praetor | will there ever be an OpenSkype protocol now that the Skype Reverse engineering papers have been released |
| 21:32.34 | rox | Pupskucheen: all those commands have manual pages, you can read them by typing man <command> |
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| 21:32.48 | rox | Pupskucheen: man umount will tell you how to use umount |
| 21:33.39 | Pupskucheen | rox: Now I reinstall debian and on the new installation I use dpkg --set-selections < /path/packages ? |
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| 21:34.44 | rox | Pupskucheen: dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 21:34.54 | rox | Pupskucheen: that is your command |
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| 21:35.20 | Pupskucheen | rox: How to reboot from rescue mode? :D |
| 21:35.33 | rox | Pupskucheen: man shutdown |
| 21:35.50 | rox | Pupskucheen: shutdown -r now |
| 21:37.25 | Pupskucheen | rox: Do you recommend partitions for something useful?^^ |
| 21:38.15 | rox | Pupskucheen: there used to be a recomended partitioning scheme for linux installations, but nowadays you might as well have it all on one partition |
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| 21:38.38 | rox | Pupskucheen: i usually have a separate partition for /home and /, but that is just my personal preference |
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| 21:39.23 | rox | Pupskucheen: if you don't plan to run mail servers or huge databases or something similar, then you can make a 20G / and put the rest in /home |
| 21:39.43 | Pupskucheen | rox: I have to put a domain name in there...(?) |
| 21:39.44 | rox | Pupskucheen: oh, and do make a swap partition the size of your ram |
| 21:40.02 | Pupskucheen | what for? |
| 21:40.17 | rox | Pupskucheen: oh, the installer is asking you about the domain name? You don't have to, just leave it |
| 21:40.44 | Pupskucheen | rox: I'm running a webserver and sometimes gameservers on it, is it important for that? |
| 21:40.49 | hotwings | since libdigest-sha1-perl appears to be deprecated now, does anyone know which package Digest::SHA1 has been moved into? |
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| 21:42.20 | rox | Pupskucheen: if you put your webserver root somewhere in /home, then you+'ll be OK |
| 21:43.09 | Pupskucheen | rox: I'll install the webserver with the debian installation, the files will be in /var/www |
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| 21:44.14 | rox | Pupskucheen: well, if you plan to host a lot of files in /var/www, then it might be a good idea to make /var a separate partition of appropriate size |
| 21:44.28 | ex-parrot | anyone know what the latest update to the linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 package is about? the changelog doesn't show anything since october and I don't know where else to look for information on that |
| 21:45.05 | Pupskucheen | rox: ~140KB ^^ |
| 21:45.12 | claint | hello. on my system, some programs can produce sound together (like rhythmbox and mplayer) but some others don't (like rhythmbox and amarok). When they don't work together, usually one program produces the sound and the other doesn't. I am on Debian Squeeze with Alsa, where do I start to troubleshoot this, anyone got hints? |
| 21:45.34 | rox | Pupskucheen: 140kb is most probably insufficient for /var |
| 21:46.12 | Pupskucheen | rox: Q_Q |
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| 21:48.55 | boudiccas | claint; why do you want both rhythmbox and amarok , both music player, to be operating at the same time? it just doesnt make sense |
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| 21:49.24 | Pupskucheen | rox: the SWAP partition was 8,1 GB and I sized it to 4,1GB (my RAM). Now I have 312GB and 4GB...?^^ |
| 21:49.40 | claint | boudiccas: that was just to give an example, I don't run amarok and rhythmbox together. |
| 21:49.56 | boudiccas | claint; so refine your question then please |
| 21:50.15 | claint | boudiccas: some programs can happily produce sound together, some don't. why? |
| 21:50.51 | boudiccas | claint; if they both compete to use the soundcard/music system then they both wont work. simple really |
| 21:51.15 | adriano_ | rox I have some news |
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| 21:51.39 | claint | boudiccas: so on your system, only "one" program outputs to sound and others don't? come on, :) |
| 21:51.41 | Pupskucheen | rox: Are the 4GB (free disk space) going to the 312GB when I continue now? |
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| 21:52.12 | boudiccas | claint; i only run /one/ at a time, theres no need to run two |
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| 21:52.21 | claint | boudiccas: but I see your point, the thing is, how do I find it out when there is a source lock. |
| 21:52.37 | adriano_ | I'm using wordpress on webserver where I installed only apache,php,mysql,phpmyadmin, no dns-server or postfix etc |
| 21:52.43 | boudiccas | claint; close both programs and then only open and use one |
| 21:52.44 | claint | boudiccas: imagine, you are running your music client, and you got a message from pidgin, and you cannot hear it. |
| 21:52.44 | panosru | Hello, could someone help me on setting up resolv.conf nameserver? |
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| 21:53.06 | boudiccas | claint; i dont use pidgin, so it would never happen |
| 21:53.34 | claint | boudiccas: you are not helping mate, in this age the solution to a sound problem is not to use just one program that accesses sound. |
| 21:54.06 | claint | boudiccas: sorry if that sounded confrontational |
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| 21:54.39 | claint | panosru: just ask the question, better that way. |
| 21:54.40 | boudiccas | claint; one, i am not your mate, my husband would not appreciate knowing that! i know the limitations of my system an donly run one sound system/program at a time |
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| 21:55.32 | claint | boudiccas: ah thanks for the clarification. I guess I am just wondering how to discover those limitations. |
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| 21:56.13 | boudiccas | claint; try it and see, if it doesnt work then you now know it for the future |
| 21:56.23 | claint | boudiccas: cause it is not, for example, the number of channels. I just tested that by playing several music pieces with mplayer. |
| 21:56.31 | panosru | What I have is a debian 6 on vm with IP 192.168.2.3 host is OSX Lion with IP 192.168.2.2 and router has the IP 192.168.2.1, debian 6 has an apache/php configuration with DirectAdmin what I need to do is set resolv.conf nameserver |
| 21:57.31 | claint | panosru: are you using a specific nameserver for your network, or just a regular nameserver for internet? |
| 21:57.58 | claint | if just internet, you could use the google one. put "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in resolv.conf |
| 21:58.09 | Trollinator | Hi, I have a desktop computer which is connected to a wireless router (192.168.2.1) via a WLAN adapter (192.168.2.100). I have an embedded device (192.168.1.1) which is connected to my desktop computer's ethernet port eth4 (192.168.1.2). Now, I want to access the internet from the embedded device, but I can't get it to work. |
| 21:58.44 | panosru | no I don't use any specific nameserver, what I need to do is put a proper nameserver in order to be able to access debian's domains through OSX (using 8.8.8.8 won't work... :( ) |
| 21:59.16 | Trollinator | I tried doing "ip route add to 192.168.2.0/24 dev eth0" on the embedded device and writing 1 to /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 21:59.43 | Trollinator | "ping 192.168.2.100" then works on the embedded device, but "ping 192.168.2.1" doesn't. |
| 22:00.12 | Trollinator | i. e. the desktop doesn't forward packets despite having a 1 in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 22:00.16 | panosru | claint: for example, if I set some domains in debian, from OSX in network preferences I add debian's IP in DNS and then I'm able to use those domains, but I changed my network from NAT to bridged network and now I'm not able to do it, I use bridge because I need to forward my external IP to debian |
| 22:01.02 | claint | panosru: what do you mean exactly by domains? are you running your own nameserver? |
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| 22:01.58 | panosru | claint: in my local VM I have debian with DirectAdmin set-up (DirectAdmin is like Cpanel, Plesk etc) so I set local domains for development purpose |
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| 22:03.17 | yagoo | looking for a treepane file manager, one knows of one? |
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| 22:03.29 | boudiccas | yagoo; krusader |
| 22:03.49 | yagoo | oh yuppy.. |
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| 22:04.10 | yagoo | guess i'll have to install the kde libs.. |
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| 22:04.35 | yagoo | i think gnome developers are too lazy to make a tree pane control.. |
| 22:04.39 | yagoo | mwhahaa |
| 22:05.08 | yagoo | there's nautilus but i hate it |
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| 22:07.32 | tehrabbitt | any reason why "airplane mode" would randomly become enabled on a laptop during bootup and now I can't disable it (and reenable wireless)? I'm running Wheezy with the latest updates + gnome if that helps |
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| 22:08.20 | claint | panosru: so you have debian on 3, osx on2, and router on 1, and you want to reach where from where? |
| 22:08.27 | tehrabbitt | i've checked the hardware switch, and it's definatatally on |
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| 22:08.55 | panosru | claint: I want to be able to get the DNS of 3 |
| 22:08.58 | panosru | I can ping 3 |
| 22:09.06 | tehrabbitt | nvm i think i figured it out |
| 22:09.11 | tehrabbitt | hardware switch was "Stuck" |
| 22:09.12 | panosru | but I need to be able to get it's dns |
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| 22:10.03 | claint | panosru: What do you mean by get the DNS of 3? |
| 22:11.03 | claint | panosru: Do you mean, ... On machine 3, I have no domain name servers set? |
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| 22:11.11 | panosru | claint: debian have some domains in it right? Like foobar.test for example what I need to do is be able from mac to type foobar.test and see that local domain |
| 22:11.17 | claint | ah |
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| 22:11.50 | panosru | claint: it worked for me before I switch from NAT to bridged but now IP is changed and I probably have to setup nameservers in debian |
| 22:11.55 | nb-ben | anyone running counterstrike on debian? |
| 22:11.56 | claint | ok, so you want to type foobar.test from your mac and reach the debian machine? |
| 22:12.08 | panosru | this is the part I miss, how to properly setup nameservers in debian |
| 22:12.14 | Pupskucheen | rox: you there? |
| 22:12.15 | yagoo | lol |
| 22:12.22 | panosru | claint: yes without touching mac's hosts file |
| 22:12.39 | yagoo | panosru, you crazy mofo.. bridged is dangerous over a WAN link.. you need to have NAT instead.. |
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| 22:12.56 | claint | panosru: well, the quick fix is touching mac's host file. and yeah, why not use NAT? |
| 22:13.00 | panosru | claint: what I did is I edited the network preferences in mac and I added debian's IP in DNS |
| 22:13.11 | claint | panosru: that won't work |
| 22:13.14 | panosru | yagoo: it is a local vm server so I don't see any danger |
| 22:13.24 | claint | panosru: unless you are runnign a nameserver on that Debian machine. |
| 22:13.52 | panosru | claint: because I have a static IP and with nat is not possible to map external static IP to VM |
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| 22:16.07 | claint | panosru: basically by showing your debian machine as a DNS server, you are doing an overkill. since it is just one machine, and you don't need to set up DNS for that. And your mac is still touching a file for your, maybe not your hosts file, but your nameservers file. |
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| 22:16.47 | panosru | claint: well I prefer that instead of touching hosts file. |
| 22:16.48 | claint | panosru: with NAT, you could bind a specific port that you need to debian machines port (if your router is supporting port forwarding) |
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| 22:18.04 | panosru | claint: no because router has nothing to do with debian's internal IP, debian had something like 172.16.210.130 and mac 192.168.2.2 and router 192.168.2.1, so debian was able to connect online through mac |
| 22:18.49 | claint | panosru: ah, ok, now it is clearer. Because you are running debian as a VM, it is contained inside a private virtual network inside the mac. |
| 22:19.05 | panosru | claint: yeah! exactly ! :) |
| 22:19.32 | claint | panosru: and you want to reach this debian from outside? |
| 22:19.42 | panosru | claint: so I paid my ISP to convert my IP from dynamic to static in order to be able to access my local VMware from online (you know for some quick demos to the clients etc) |
| 22:20.06 | panosru | claint: yes this is my purpose, some times I need to show the progress of a website to the client etc |
| 22:20.31 | panosru | it is easier to just provide him a link to my local server without losing time to upload and test things in production |
| 22:22.01 | rox | Pupskucheen: if you have a question, feel free to ask the channel, there are many helpful people here, who will be happy to answer your questions, if they can provide an answer |
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| 22:23.41 | claint | panosru: ok, one more question: did you do the bridge on your mac or on your router? |
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| 22:24.14 | claint | panosru: well, I guess it is on the router, that was clear. |
| 22:24.33 | panosru | claint: in vmware there is an option if you want to use NAT network or bridged, so I selected bridged and then in router's NAT I set my external IP to hit 192.168.2.3 |
| 22:24.33 | tharkun | Is there a gui latex editor for debian? |
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| 22:25.53 | panosru | claint: and in my mac's network in advanced options there is a section to add custom DNS, I added my debian's dns and my router's IP in order to be able to access internet but also to have debian's DNS in order to be able to access debian's domains without having to touch hosts file on mac |
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| 22:26.54 | claint | tharkun: I never used it (I am an emacs guy) but I have seen some use texmaker. |
| 22:27.28 | tharkun | claint: I've allways heard that the only thing emacs lacs is a good text editor ;P |
| 22:27.37 | tharkun | thanks |
| 22:27.45 | claint | claint: it is a great text editor. |
| 22:27.56 | claint | tharkun: it is a great text editor |
| 22:28.04 | tharkun | :) |
| 22:28.12 | claint | yeah i am on emacs :( |
| 22:28.17 | claint | you got me |
| 22:28.37 | ZekeS | emacs, a great os hobbled only by the lack of a decent text editor |
| 22:29.41 | claint | I like it because it is programmable. If I want it to do something, I can put that in. |
| 22:30.20 | ex-parrot | do kernel packages usually get delayed some period before being made available for download in stable? |
| 22:31.11 | ompaul | !tell ex-parrot about stable |
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| 22:31.32 | ompaul | ex-parrot: in case it is not obvious, please read the message from the bot dpkg |
| 22:31.35 | claint | panosru: are you running a Domain Name Server on your debian machine? and by domains do you mean the websites running on your debian machine? |
| 22:31.58 | ex-parrot | ompaul: that doesn't help me... I'm trying to work out why aptitude is telling me there's an update for my kernel when the changelog has no changes in it since october 25th |
| 22:32.17 | claint | ex-parrot: which kernel? |
| 22:32.22 | panosru | claint: yes I run a dns server in my debian, and yes I mean websites running on my debian machine :) |
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| 22:32.33 | panosru | claint: I use bind9 as dns server |
| 22:32.42 | ex-parrot | claint: linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 22:32.44 | ompaul | ,kernels |
| 22:32.46 | panosru | claint: ok I just fixed it :P |
| 22:32.46 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.1-1); wheezy: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.1-1); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-38); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 22:33.04 | claint | panosru: good. :) |
| 22:33.22 | panosru | claint: damn some times I think i need rest :P server / programming and gym and no sleep :P |
| 22:33.41 | ex-parrot | judd: good except that I've just installed "2.6.32-39" on my box here, so either that list is out of date or someone is mitm'ing my debian updates and spoofing the pgp key on the packages ;) |
| 22:33.42 | panosru | claint: I just had to run service named restart in order to restart DNS server :P |
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| 22:34.07 | claint | panosru: you were already ahead. so it was just not resstarting theh service. happens. |
| 22:34.14 | claint | panosru: I sometimes forget that as well. |
| 22:35.01 | claint | ex-parrot: you on debian squeeze? |
| 22:35.06 | ex-parrot | yes claint |
| 22:35.17 | panosru | claint: that's why I broke up with my gf :D I forgot the day we met, hey birthday and everything generally hahaha |
| 22:35.24 | ompaul | Get:1 http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/main linux-base all 2.6.32-39 [176 kB] |
| 22:35.49 | ompaul | ex-parrot: ^^ so unless you are on the same mirror it seems ok to me |
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| 22:36.09 | ompaul | ex-parrot: means the mirrors the bot are looking at have not been refreshed I guess |
| 22:36.11 | panosru | claint: the only thing now that is not working is that I still can't access my vm from my external IP even though I set NAT properly, strange :/ |
| 22:36.23 | panosru | claint: do you think a router restart will do the job? |
| 22:36.29 | ws2k3 | hello guys. i use the tool bwm-ng to monitor my traffic on my servers but on one of my server it jumps to 0 every second. somebody any idea? |
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| 22:37.09 | d3xter | hey |
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| 22:37.39 | claint | panosru: check if you cannot connect to ports running on your mac from outside first. |
| 22:38.17 | panosru | claint: hm I didn't got you, which ports? by default I need port 80, but still I set it in router too |
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| 22:38.37 | d3xter | i think my system is fucked up :D http://pastebin.com/UBbsBpqp, any suggestions to solve this issue? |
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| 22:39.31 | claint | panosru: your mac, which is on 2, does it run http as well. i would check with that first, to see if my nat is working, then I would check if my Virtual Bridge is up. |
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| 22:39.53 | claint | I came here to ask a question... odd. |
| 22:40.00 | ompaul | d3xter: what kind of a system do you have |
| 22:40.01 | bindi | how can I read lines starting from the line N to the line M? |
| 22:40.02 | bindi | :< |
| 22:40.20 | claint | bindi: of a text file? |
| 22:40.23 | bindi | yes :> |
| 22:40.34 | ompaul | d3xter: actually pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list rather than anything else thanks |
| 22:40.37 | bindi | presumably head and tail but I'm having a hard time getting my head around this |
| 22:40.44 | bindi | i've used tail to print the last 10 lines but thats it |
| 22:40.48 | ompaul | d3xter: and use the paste.debian.net please |
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| 22:41.42 | d3xter | ompaul: is there any upload-script like pastebinit for paste.debian.net? |
| 22:41.46 | d3xter | ompaul: i'm running squeeze |
| 22:42.44 | d3xter | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/146951/ |
| 22:42.45 | claint | bindi: tail -n +linenum filename | head -n numlines |
| 22:43.09 | bindi | claint: got it with sed (ugly crosspost :D) - sed -n '1,2p' file |
| 22:43.36 | claint | bindi: yeah, probably clearer too |
| 22:43.44 | ompaul | d3xter: I point at the multimedia stuff - it may have poisoned your system |
| 22:43.54 | ompaul | d3xter: and yes it does look bad |
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| 22:44.50 | claint | ok, now my question again: Some of my programs lock each other's sound while some other programs don't. I am using alsa. How do I troubleshoot this? |
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| 22:45.10 | d3xter | ompaul: rather new debian, than try to fix it? |
| 22:45.23 | d3xter | then* |
| 22:45.25 | ex-parrot | claint: do you know if you're running some kind of software mixing system or are you doing hardware mixing on your card? this will largely depend I think on what kind of card you have |
| 22:45.49 | ex-parrot | also, do you have oss compatibility set up for your alsa install? |
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| 22:46.12 | ompaul | d3xter: and leave out testing and repos and multimedia as you obviously need to learn more basics so you don't do that again |
| 22:46.28 | hotwings | where does debian hid the actual version number? $(lsb_release -d) only gives me the toy story name |
| 22:46.50 | ompaul | hotwings: why not try lsb_release -a |
| 22:46.56 | ompaul | and work from there ;-) |
| 22:47.06 | ws2k3 | hello guys. i use the tool bwm-ng to monitor my traffic on my servers but on one of my server it jumps to 0 every second. somebody any idea? |
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| 22:47.19 | claint | ex-parrot: hmm, lemme check if I did put oss compat in the past. good call. |
| 22:47.19 | ex-parrot | lsb_release -d gives me a version number on squeeze :) |
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| 22:47.40 | hotwings | $ lsb_release -d |
| 22:47.40 | hotwings | Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (wheezy) |
| 22:47.49 | hotwings | i really need an actual version number.. not a toy story alias |
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| 22:47.55 | claint | ex-parrot: yeah, removing alsa-oss, I don't need it. let's see what it does. |
| 22:47.58 | hotwings | its it hidden in some file somewhere or?? |
| 22:48.16 | hotwings | lsb_release -a shows the same stuff, just on separate lines.. and no version number |
| 22:48.42 | ompaul | hotwings: have you worked it out yet? |
| 22:49.00 | ompaul | wheezy has no release number because it is not released |
| 22:49.08 | ompaul | nor near release |
| 22:49.28 | ompaul | slowly it is not 6 and it most certainly is not 7 yet |
| 22:49.33 | hotwings | so only stable versions have a version number.. that really sucks |
| 22:50.15 | ompaul | hotwings: I can tell you the version after wheezy is going to be 8 with .9999 probablity |
| 22:50.18 | raimedia | addon |
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| 22:51.33 | hotwings | i never knew debians versioning system was so botched.. toy story names that could be testing today and stable tomorrow is junk.. versions with no actual version number is junk |
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| 22:51.46 | hotwings | oh well.. im sure debian will never address this if it hasnt already.. thanks for the help nonetheless |
| 22:51.48 | ompaul | hotwings: testing is testing |
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