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| 00:07.07 | converge | im looking for a tutorial about libvirt on debian , someone have a sugestion ? |
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| 00:13.09 | thewanderer1 | converge, install libvirt-bin and read whatever you can find in /usr/share/doc/libvirt* |
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| 00:14.16 | converge | thewanderer1: i was reading http://admin-board.com/mediawiki/index.php/Virtualization_With_KVM_On_A_Debian_Lenny_Server but idk if its still updated |
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| 00:15.52 | thewanderer1 | converge, looks rather good, only you don't need Ubuntu anymore for starting virt-manager since it's now also in Debian :P |
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| 00:16.42 | hanasaki | what is the process to install a no gui server of debian? |
| 00:17.02 | nkuttler | hanasaki: just don't install the desktop task |
| 00:17.16 | hanasaki | didn't see a place to select that in the text menus |
| 00:17.43 | nkuttler | hanasaki: it's during package selection, tasksel |
| 00:17.44 | converge | hanasaki: it's exist even in the normal install |
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| 00:19.03 | hanasaki | ah found it.. I thought what was being installed was the full thing.. select came later |
| 00:19.04 | hanasaki | thanks |
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| 00:19.44 | thewanderer1 | so, what's the recommendation on btrfs? safe for rootfs and user data or still worth waiting? got an SSD here to make good use of :) |
| 00:20.00 | sedulous | There's still no fsck.btrfs, thewanderer1 |
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| 00:20.17 | hanasaki | hmmmm thought it the kvm would run faster as a P5 emu since it's a subset.. it actually runs a lot faster as a opteron which is the host cpu |
| 00:20.22 | thewanderer1 | hm, I thought it was supposed to be out 5 times already? |
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| 00:20.35 | hanasaki | sedulous: btrfs is still not prod ready I believe |
| 00:20.45 | nkuttler | there is an fsck, it's even packaged |
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| 00:21.01 | nkuttler | but yeah, btrfs is still in dev... |
| 00:21.05 | sedulous | https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/ - "Btrfs does not yet have a fsck tool that can fix errors" |
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| 00:21.16 | nkuttler | apt-cache show btrfs-tools |
| 00:21.19 | thewanderer1 | ah-ha, so it checks filesystems without fixing |
| 00:21.35 | sedulous | That might be acceptable if you have regular backups |
| 00:21.35 | Kuifje111 | hello all. I am trying to block port 443 (https) in my router using iptables. this is what I tried, but didn't work: "iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 443 -j DROP" |
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| 00:21.50 | hanasaki | what are the big benefits of btrfs over ext4 |
| 00:22.03 | nkuttler | more chances for data loss |
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| 00:22.18 | hanasaki | that is a benefit? ..............!? |
| 00:22.26 | thewanderer1 | I'm hoping for increased performance on my SSD |
| 00:22.37 | thewanderer1 | it's supposed to be optimized for SSDs I think? |
| 00:22.57 | sedulous | hanasaki: built-in checksums, transparent compression |
| 00:23.10 | hanasaki | nkuttler: if btrfs has more chances for dataloss... its off my list |
| 00:23.31 | nkuttler | hanasaki: it's under development. not ready for production use |
| 00:23.39 | thewanderer1 | back to ext4, then |
| 00:23.48 | hanasaki | nkuttler: right that is why I wondered why it was an install option in deb |
| 00:23.58 | nkuttler | it is? oh well.. |
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| 00:24.24 | thewanderer1 | it appears to be... it's quite stable, but has no functional fsck |
| 00:24.44 | hanasaki | nkuttler: you could run apple 5.3 based :) from the old appleIIe |
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| 00:25.00 | thewanderer1 | which is my biggest concern - unacceptable on a server :P |
| 00:25.02 | nkuttler | hanasaki: hm? |
| 00:26.03 | Amarande | thewanderer1, you could say in the same vein that ext2 is unacceptable on a server :) |
| 00:26.24 | Amarande | the amount of time that ext2 takes to fsck on a large drive after even a short power failure is totally unacceptable in any production environment |
| 00:27.03 | nkuttler | but power failures are acceptable? |
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| 00:28.38 | hanasaki | nkuttler: a reference to an old disk encoding on Apples |
| 00:28.42 | lstarnes | nkuttler: no, but when they do happen, the system should recover quickly |
| 00:29.27 | nkuttler | too bad ext2 can't be upgraded to have a journal.. oh wait.. |
| 00:29.58 | Amarande | nkuttler: that makes it ext3 or ext4, though. :) |
| 00:30.00 | lstarnes | tune2fs -O has_journal? |
| 00:30.14 | nkuttler | Amarande: "upgraded" |
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| 00:43.16 | hanasaki | is there a headless jdk that can be installed? |
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| 00:43.41 | lenswipe | hey gusy |
| 00:43.44 | lenswipe | huys* |
| 00:43.46 | lenswipe | guys** |
| 00:43.50 | Hatori | Hey |
| 00:43.57 | lenswipe | anyone know if there is an app for debian like a one shot sample bank? |
| 00:44.03 | lenswipe | or any kind of sample bank |
| 00:44.14 | lenswipe | so i can load .wavs in and play little samples |
| 00:47.09 | sedulous | lenswipe: let me know if you find one |
| 00:47.23 | lenswipe | sedulous, i saw "sooperlooper" which looks like what i need |
| 00:47.31 | sedulous | you're looking for a sample library with quick playback, right? |
| 00:47.41 | sedulous | or an actual sampler? |
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| 00:48.08 | lenswipe | sedulous, im looking for a row of buttons that i can assign .wav files to to play small sound samples |
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| 00:50.11 | lenswipe | sedulous, ...or not |
| 00:51.17 | nkuttler | lenswipe: sounds easy enough to script, maybe using zenity |
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| 00:52.31 | corretico | some softphone for wheezy? |
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| 00:54.32 | sedulous | corretico: ekiga |
| 00:55.33 | lenswipe | nkuttler, hmm |
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| 00:57.25 | comradekingu | lenswipe: search for soundboard |
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| 00:58.00 | lenswipe | comradekingu, nothing in synaptic |
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| 00:59.24 | comradekingu | you can use android apps, about 40% of all android apps are like that |
| 00:59.33 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe, try lmms - a software sampler... also, ZynAddSubFX is a sound synthesizer with a vast instrument bank |
| 01:00.26 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, lmms is a DAW isnt it? |
| 01:01.00 | thewanderer1 | err, define DAW? |
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| 01:01.35 | lenswipe | Digital Audio Workstation |
| 01:01.42 | thewanderer1 | more or less, yeah... |
| 01:01.49 | lenswipe | so thats not really what i wanted :p |
| 01:01.56 | thewanderer1 | but it has samples :D |
| 01:02.01 | lenswipe | orlynao? |
| 01:02.10 | lenswipe | are they like a button i can press? |
| 01:02.14 | thewanderer1 | yes |
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| 01:03.18 | thewanderer1 | in ZynAddSubFX, on the other hand, you choose an instrument and play a virtual piano keyboard - pick your style :P |
| 01:03.34 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, how do i do the sampler thing? |
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| 01:04.08 | thewanderer1 | huh, it's in there somewhere, I've last seen lmms 2 years ago :P |
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| 01:11.13 | lenswipe | hm |
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| 01:35.03 | allan_aguilar | Hello. Can someone install the FreeBSD kernel in Debian GNU/Linux with apt-get? |
| 01:35.12 | allan_aguilar | If so, how? |
| 01:35.20 | technologov | No - u need fresh install. |
| 01:35.30 | technologov | Full OS must be installed. |
| 01:35.42 | allan_aguilar | technologov: Okay. Thank you. |
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| 01:45.48 | somiaj | there is a kfreebsd-image-8-amd64 on amd64, not really sure what its doing there though. |
| 01:45.48 | lduros | hello I just bought an ASUS U46E-BAL6 with Windows 7 and I can't find a way to boot from my debian cd when the laptop starts up |
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| 01:46.12 | daemonkeeper | somiaj: Debugging. It has mostly historical reasons, you can't boot it as is. |
| 01:46.30 | lduros | I want to install debian of course, but is there a key to boot the bios and add the dvd player to the list, or is there a key to tell it to boot on cd at startup? |
| 01:46.38 | somiaj | lduros: it will probabaly be the bios, though usually f8 or something like that brings up a 'quickboot' menu section |
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| 01:47.03 | lduros | somiaj: ok thanks, why do they have to make it so difficult... do they want everybody to be locked in windows or what... |
| 01:47.05 | somiaj | lduros: but that will be in the laptop/bios section, I would check that out |
| 01:47.27 | somiaj | lduros: never though it was difficult. I have always found it in the bios and it has worked |
| 01:47.36 | lduros | somiaj: alright, gotta go try thanks :-) |
| 01:47.36 | streuner | lduros: its here on a desktop "DEL", if F8 not working, try that too |
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| 01:48.05 | lduros | streuner ok I tried del didn't work, so i will try f8, there isn't even a manual or even a dvd with this laptop, crazy! |
| 01:48.07 | lduros | :-) |
| 01:48.21 | somiaj | daemonkeeper: ahh, yea I noticed it was there, but never cared to see why. Wasn't sure if it was trying to run linux in combadbility mode or not, but did seem out of place |
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| 01:48.54 | daemonkeeper | somiaj: There is a reaason why kfreebsd_amd64|i386 is a full arch and not only a kernel. :) |
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| 01:49.40 | somiaj | daemonkeeper: well yes I understand why its a full release, the strange thing was why the kernel was installable outside of it (like why you can't install a ppc kernel on an intel version). (: |
| 01:50.38 | daemonkeeper | Well, that's entirely a different thing. PPC and Intel are completely different architectures with completely different instruction sets. However, for kfreebsd the architecture is always the same. The difference are kernel ABIs. |
| 01:51.41 | somiaj | guess I should have used the hurd as my example. (: |
| 01:51.50 | daemonkeeper | Hurd is yet the same architecture :p |
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| 01:52.54 | lstarnes | but different ABI |
| 01:55.16 | somiaj | well yea, but the hurd kernel isn't available in i386/amd64 |
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| 01:57.14 | somiaj | but anyways, as I said it seems strange that the freebsd kernel is installable outside of its release. |
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| 02:00.27 | daemonkeeper | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.05 | iluminator105 | my remote desktop preferences is grayed out its not allowing me to change anything i know vino is installed so i dont know why this is grayed out |
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| 02:06.17 | _pash | hello is it possible to remove the window decorations in openbox on urxvt? i was told that there is setting for .Xdefaults |
| 02:08.15 | GordonFreeman | everything is possible |
| 02:08.17 | somiaj | _pash: I'd ask in an openbox channel. Really I don't see why it would be an .Xdefaults issue and more an openbox configuration. |
| 02:08.29 | ectospasm | window decorations? Oh, yeah, I use Xmonad... |
| 02:08.54 | somiaj | I could tell you how to do it in fvwm, but that won't help with openbox unforntally. |
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| 02:10.28 | lduros | hello again back to windows trying to install debian: the net install doesn't detect my ethernet card. It's an Atheros AR 8151 PLI-E or so says windows device manager |
| 02:10.58 | lduros | i have burn the netinstall in a cd, and I have a usb I could use for a driver, but not sure what i'm looking for her |
| 02:11.00 | lduros | here |
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| 02:11.58 | streuner | Atheros is most likely WLAN |
| 02:11.59 | germanxn_ | some here uses vim with clang? |
| 02:12.42 | lduros | streuner: for wireless I found Intel Centrino Wireless N6150 |
| 02:12.44 | germanxn_ | i cant get it to work |
| 02:12.50 | streuner | lduros: maybe your NIC needs firmware..., you are able to use the USB then |
| 02:13.19 | germanxn_ | when i use "::" it display the list of options ok |
| 02:13.47 | lduros | streuner: yeh it's the ethernet: Atheros AR8151 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.20) |
| 02:14.04 | germanxn_ | but when i try "." on a module struct, it displays "pattern not found" |
| 02:14.06 | streuner | lduros: what does lspci -nn say about? |
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| 02:14.26 | streuner | dpkg, listvals 8151 |
| 02:14.31 | dpkg | Factoid search of '8151' by value (4): acx ;; atl1c ;; acer ;; ar8151. |
| 02:14.32 | lduros | streuner: on windows? |
| 02:14.44 | streuner | dpkg, ar8151 |
| 02:14.44 | dpkg | The Atheros AR8151 v1.0 Gigabit Ethernet controller (PCI ID 1969:1073) is supported by the <atl1c> driver in Debian linux-image packages since linux-2.6 2.6.32-28 (BTS #599771). Ask me about <install debian>. Support is available for established Lenny systems, see <bdo kernel lenny>. AR8151 v2.0 (PCI ID 1969:1083) is supported by atl1c since Linux 2.6.36. |
| 02:15.19 | lduros | streuner: but I burnt a netinstall of Squeeze |
| 02:15.19 | streuner | hm |
| 02:15.56 | germanxn_ | this thing has stealed my hole day :-( |
| 02:15.56 | streuner | lduros: just use a kmuto d-i then |
| 02:16.10 | streuner | lduros: /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 02:16.12 | iluminator105 | babilen, permission to pm |
| 02:16.30 | lduros | streuner: am i supposed to get a message? |
| 02:16.31 | lduros | :-) |
| 02:16.39 | germanxn_ | whole |
| 02:17.14 | streuner | lduros: sure, just message the bot :-) |
| 02:17.17 | lduros | ok got it |
| 02:17.29 | lduros | streuner: what about installing debian testing with linux kernel 3? |
| 02:17.39 | lduros | i have a copy burnt already |
| 02:17.40 | lduros | but didn't try |
| 02:17.43 | lduros | think it would work? |
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| 02:22.03 | somiaj | streuner: if you have to ask questions like this about debian, do not run testing (also I would suggesting install a stable base system then upgrading to testing over using the testing installer) |
| 02:22.07 | somiaj | lduros: ^^ |
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| 02:22.11 | somiaj | streuner: wrong nick, sorry |
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| 02:23.14 | lduros | somiaj: :-P |
| 02:23.26 | lduros | I'm running it on another laptop just fine |
| 02:24.01 | somiaj | lduros: my suggestion is install the base system from the netinstall cd (you can do this without a network card) |
| 02:24.13 | clerkent | i couldnt get k3b to load properly using software manager |
| 02:24.19 | somiaj | lduros: then copy over the firmware/backported kernel to get your nic working and then install software from there. |
| 02:24.37 | lduros | somiaj: ok, I'll try that then, thanks for the tip, in any case I have to reboot once again. I may be back :-) |
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| 02:40.43 | unkmar | gnome, how do I disable lid response. Not ALL of power management. I do not wish ANY changes when I close the lid to place the keyboard ontop to use my external monitor. |
| 02:42.41 | tamiya | unkmar: i too hate power management, screen savers, passwords, etc |
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| 02:44.20 | unkmar | for me, I sometimes use a laptop and TV. and wish to close the lid without LOSING the laptop. |
| 02:45.00 | streuner | thats possible :-) |
| 02:45.29 | somiaj | yea works fine here. Though I don't use gnome. My guess is its a gconf/gdm thing with gnome. |
| 02:45.39 | unkmar | streuner: duh. answer one. Run windows. Answer 2, change SOMETHING in my gnome3 and/or linux settings. Define SOMETHING. |
| 02:46.53 | streuner | 3, a MBP via OSX, but it should be possible in Debian too ;-) |
| 02:47.51 | somiaj | unkmar: have you tried google. My first google search gave me -- gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/gnome-power-manager/buttons/lid_ac "nothing" |
| 02:47.58 | unkmar | gnome 3's gui doesn't appear to think you should ever allow it to do NOTHING> |
| 02:48.24 | somiaj | oh this is gnome3, not gnome2? -- You will probabaly get better support asking the gnome people. (: |
| 02:49.00 | unkmar | somiaj: I admit, I did come here first. However my quick gnome 3 search at google that I was already doing was not giving good results. |
| 02:49.21 | unkmar | I read something about gsettings and I don't have that. |
| 02:49.32 | unkmar | I do have gconftool, so that MIGHT work. |
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| 02:52.59 | Morgawr | I;m going to ask here again hoping somebody can help me.. I successfully compiled a custom kernel following either this http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage or this http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html, no problems so far... however I want the actual linux-image-2.6.32 kernel to have a prepended custom name (like linux-image-2.6.32-custom-patch), how do I do this? |
| 02:53.18 | Morgawr | I tried setting the name with --revision or stuff like that but it doesn't seem to be working, I still intall a "pure" 2.6.32 kernel |
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| 02:53.36 | jacrata | hi |
| 02:54.13 | jacrata | im testing xchat in Debian squeeze |
| 02:54.48 | jacrata | can you read me? |
| 02:54.53 | Valtam | no |
| 02:54.53 | streuner | no |
| 02:54.55 | Morgawr | nah |
| 02:55.10 | jacrata | jaja |
| 02:55.32 | jacrata | thank you pals |
| 02:55.46 | Valtam | what? I can't see what you just wrote |
| 02:55.46 | jacrata | another question |
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| 02:56.57 | unkmar | I got it for now, but my laptop seems to think the laptop lid switch is some form of crack. Changes around the chosen display with every open and close. |
| 02:57.33 | unkmar | I just want to play a game. so, I will FIX the problem later. |
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| 02:58.03 | jacrata | anyone can tell me how i can contribute with spanish translation in Debian project |
| 02:59.18 | klh | so i have a usb drive that when (auto) mounted the files belong to root only |
| 03:00.17 | klh | not sure how I would fix it so that when mounted the files are read/write-able to reg. user |
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| 03:03.08 | klh | any help would be great btw |
| 03:03.11 | klh | :) |
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| 03:06.33 | jacrata | you need change the owner |
| 03:07.14 | jacrata | are you try to change the files owner to you user |
| 03:07.15 | gentz | I want to image my drive with dd, including the partitions. But when I do dd if=/dev/sda of=/disk.img conv=noerror,sync , dd also copies unused portions of the partition. how can I only copy space that has been written to on the partition? |
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| 03:07.37 | lstarnes | gentz: you can't, but you can gzip it |
| 03:07.49 | lstarnes | gentz: or make a tar archive of it |
| 03:09.24 | cthuluh | gentz: see clonezilla |
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| 03:10.00 | gentz | dd can't stop at the first sign of say 100M of zeroes? |
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| 03:10.53 | cthuluh | why would an unused chunk be made of zeroes? |
| 03:11.07 | gentz | cthuluh: if i zeroed out the hard drive before hand |
| 03:11.39 | cthuluh | patch dd(1), then.... or use solutions that already work |
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| 03:13.29 | jelly-home | gentz: cp has support for sparse file creation at the destination |
| 03:13.51 | jelly-home | gentz: dd_rescue as well |
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| 03:16.11 | klh | damn uuid |
| 03:16.16 | klh | I like the auto mount |
| 03:16.41 | klh | but how do I tell this thing when this usb mounts that a-user has read/write |
| 03:17.16 | klh | I know how to change ownership/group |
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| 03:17.44 | iluminator101 | Hi, is there way to disable wifi on startup in debian wheezy gnome |
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| 03:22.33 | Morgawr | ok, simple question.. how do remove old kernels that I installed using dpkg -i kernel_image.deb? |
| 03:26.45 | Valtam | dpkg -r |
| 03:26.46 | dpkg | Valtam: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 03:26.50 | Valtam | update-grub |
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| 03:28.25 | Morgawr | derp Valtam yeah, sorry that was simple |
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| 03:31.54 | somiaj | Morgawr: you can use aptitude/apt-get to remove any package as well to. you don't have to use dpkg |
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| 03:34.12 | Some_Person | How can I boot to an ISO file? |
| 03:34.31 | Some_Person | I don't have a disc to burn it to |
| 03:34.40 | Valtam | usb key? |
| 03:35.07 | tamiya | vmware workstation |
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| 03:36.54 | jacrata | with virtual box |
| 03:36.56 | iluminator105 | what command brings desktop sharing preferences in gnome command line |
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| 03:37.46 | jacrata | or multisystem test iso aplication |
| 03:37.54 | jacrata | is an option |
| 03:38.32 | jacrata | you want do it by terminal? |
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| 03:45.24 | Some_Person | I want to boot to it natively (i.e. not in a vm) |
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| 03:53.07 | frigo | so, im trying to understand how to add non-free to apt, bt i just dont |
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| 03:53.27 | frigo | what do i do, i open /etc/apt/source.list and just add the urls ? |
| 03:53.36 | frigo | where do i find these repositories ? |
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| 04:01.06 | jacrata | # |
| 04:01.06 | jacrata | deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ stable main contrib non-free |
| 04:01.06 | jacrata | deb-src http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ stable main contrib non-free |
| 04:01.06 | jacrata | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free |
| 04:01.06 | jacrata | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 04:01.06 | jacrata | deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
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| 04:01.45 | gp5st2 | hey! i'm sorry if this is a dumb question. i have an ext3 file system mounted as root. is there anyway to get a snapshot of it w/o locking the entire fs? (ideally getting a snapshot of just 1 dir would be fine, but….) |
| 04:02.19 | gp5st2 | running deb 5 |
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| 04:04.33 | frigo | jacrata: thanks! sorry you had to get kicked :p |
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| 04:06.01 | jacrata | yea |
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| 04:07.02 | jacrata | its a full Debian sources.list for USA |
| 04:07.16 | jacrata | near yorku university |
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| 04:09.48 | simonlnu | york u. is in toronto... |
| 04:10.08 | jacrata | ja |
| 04:10.38 | jacrata | a thinh that the ending .ca |
| 04:10.44 | jacrata | mean california |
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| 04:15.18 | frigo | im near york u |
| 04:15.22 | frigo | so its all good |
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| 04:16.32 | frigo | .ca is canada. pretty sure :p |
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| 04:20.42 | chalcedony | is there anything i need to know about skype on debian? i have 64 bit squeeze |
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| 04:21.42 | chalcedony | i guess i asked that badly. i want to install skype. does apt-get install skype do it? |
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| 04:23.21 | Valtam | try it |
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| 04:42.50 | comradekingu | chalcedony: try ekiga or mumble |
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| 04:54.15 | zerobyte | chalcedony just download the deb from http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/ and dpkg -i package.deb |
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| 05:01.14 | nofilicity | how could i install an earlier version of an apt package? I have /usr/lib/libMagickWand.so.5 but I need /usr/liblibMagickWand.so.4 |
| 05:04.50 | dioz | you're like the 5th person i've seen asking this exact same question |
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| 05:05.40 | nofilicity | really? |
| 05:05.55 | nofilicity | any solutions? :P |
| 05:05.57 | dioz | in the last like 4 days i'd say |
| 05:07.27 | dioz | download the specific .deb |
| 05:07.30 | dioz | and dpkg -i |
| 05:07.33 | dioz | have you tried that? |
| 05:08.27 | dioz | i don't believe that will handle dependencies for you however |
| 05:09.05 | nofilicity | yeah, i just cant find the older deb |
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| 05:10.38 | dioz | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=magickwand&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
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| 05:11.31 | nofilicity | hooray! |
| 05:11.32 | nofilicity | thanks |
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| 05:12.31 | lstarnes | what do I need to do to get X working with VMWare video drivers in QEMU? |
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| 05:14.07 | dioz | a computer |
| 05:14.14 | lstarnes | obviously |
| 05:14.53 | dioz | hah yeah |
| 05:18.44 | dioz | http://animaldiscoveryonline.com/animal-pictures/emu-3.jpg |
| 05:18.46 | nofilicity | " Version of libjpeg8 on system is 8b-1.". i'm not sure what to do.. |
| 05:19.02 | dioz | what does w/e you're trying to work with require? |
| 05:19.54 | nofilicity | libmagickwand4: requires libjpeg8, libltd7, libmagickcore4, imagemagick-common |
| 05:20.02 | nofilicity | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.03 | nofilicity | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.49 | dioz | there's what's called pinning in apt that will allow you to install packages from other builds |
| 05:21.53 | dioz | stable/testing/unstable |
| 05:21.58 | nofilicity | how do i do that? |
| 05:22.13 | dioz | apt-get -t i think |
| 05:22.17 | dioz | is what you'd need to look for |
| 05:22.56 | nofilicity | is c unstable or what |
| 05:23.29 | dioz | did you ch eck for a backport? |
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| 05:23.46 | nofilicity | of libmagickwand4? |
| 05:23.49 | nofilicity | or jpeg? |
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| 05:24.43 | dioz | doesn't appear to be |
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| 05:25.51 | dioz | so yeah you can add the testing or unstable repos to your sources.list |
| 05:26.01 | dioz | and apt-get -t unstable/testing libmagicwand4 or w/e |
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| 05:26.08 | dioz | and it will do all the dependencies for you |
| 05:26.11 | dioz | might make a mess tho |
| 05:26.17 | nofilicity | hmm |
| 05:26.46 | nofilicity | libmagickwand4 isnt in the repo |
| 05:26.53 | nofilicity | just that .deb file |
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| 05:27.18 | dioz | claims it's in unstable and testing |
| 05:27.19 | dioz | *shrug* |
| 05:27.26 | nofilicity | hm ok |
| 05:27.28 | nofilicity | i'll add the debs |
| 05:27.31 | nofilicity | thanks dioz |
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| 05:28.55 | Blue1 | I am trying to run skype and it says can't open shared object file: libqt4dbus.so -- no file or directory. it's in /usr/lib -- how do I add this path? |
| 05:30.01 | lstarnes | Blue1: are you using x86_64? |
| 05:30.22 | lstarnes | oh wait, wrong chan |
| 05:31.23 | Blue1 | lstarnes: yes |
| 05:31.45 | lstarnes | you may need the 32-bit version of that .so |
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| 05:32.35 | Blue1 | lstarnes: well the file is there, it just has no access to it |
| 05:32.55 | lstarnes | because skype is 32-bit, probably |
| 05:33.21 | lstarnes | maybe I'm wrong |
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| 05:33.39 | Blue1 | lstarnes: no installed and downloaded a 64 bit version |
| 05:33.41 | belak | Anyone know of a good alternative to dropbox I can run myself? |
| 05:33.44 | Blue1 | lstarnes: of skype |
| 05:33.53 | lstarnes | hmm |
| 05:33.53 | lstarnes | weird |
| 05:34.16 | Blue1 | lstarnes: i just need it to access /usr/lib |
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| 05:41.12 | cthuluh | Blue1: file /path/to/skype; ldd /path/to/skype; apt-file search ... |
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| 05:52.26 | Blue1 | lstarnes: this works! http://wirejungle.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/skype-on-squeeze-64-bit-workaround/ |
| 05:52.48 | lstarnes | ah ok |
| 05:53.33 | Blue1 | lstarnes: who knew? |
| 05:53.47 | lstarnes | it seems like a hack though |
| 05:54.10 | Blue1 | lstarnes: yeah did some hokey pokey stuff to g3et things to work - this is just one of them |
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| 05:55.25 | Blue1 | lstarnes: had to do some hokum to get gapcmon to work |
| 05:56.18 | Blue1 | lstarnes: http://pkill-9.com/getting-apcs-gapcmon-to-work-under-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/ |
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| 07:19.09 | greeg | hi I added my non root user to a new group but dont want to restart to be part of that group. |
| 07:19.15 | greeg | what are my other options. |
| 07:19.36 | lstarnes | log out |
| 07:19.48 | greeg | I just said I can't. |
| 07:19.55 | greeg | dumb ass. |
| 07:20.03 | lstarnes | logging out and rebooting are two different things |
| 07:20.27 | greeg | I dont' want to do either. |
| 07:20.40 | lstarnes | then there is no way short of running all commands with su $USER |
| 07:20.49 | lstarnes | logging out is the least tricky way to do it |
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| 07:22.28 | greeg | su <user> is fine. |
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| 07:26.46 | qdb | hello. i used this in ubuntu but dies nit work to share inet from ubuntu do debian minimal installation, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing though i replaced dhcp3 in manual that was for ubuntu to dhcp |
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| 07:27.20 | qdb | ping ip works but ping domain does not |
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| 07:38.57 | valdyn | qdb: theres no dhcp package in debian? |
| 07:39.44 | qdb | valdyn, there is /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf file |
| 07:39.57 | valdyn | qdb: ok, thats the dhcp *client* |
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| 07:41.27 | valdyn | qdb: default debian dhcp client should be fine, your problem is the dhcp server, but thats appearantly not debian |
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| 07:42.11 | valdyn | qdb: configure your dhcp server to give out a nameserver, not just the ip |
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| 07:44.52 | qdb | valdyn, why i cannot statically set dns ip s in client ? |
| 07:45.34 | valdyn | qdb: you can do that |
| 07:46.28 | qdb | how to do it? |
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| 07:47.49 | valdyn | qdb: edit /etc/resolv.conf, disable name server in /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf |
| 07:48.16 | qdb | valdyn, thank you , i will try |
| 07:48.17 | valdyn | qdb: remove the resolvconf package if it is installed |
| 07:49.04 | valdyn | qdb: if dhclient is already not setting your nameserver, then theres no need to change its configuration |
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| 07:52.08 | qdb | valdyn, how to check whether resolvconf is installed ? without aptitude |
| 07:52.32 | qdb | "if dhclient is already not setting your nameserver" - how to check that ? |
| 07:53.06 | qdb | probably it does not because domains do not work? |
| 07:53.25 | qdb | but i have changed its config but it has not helped |
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| 07:54.16 | qdb | i should create etc resolv conf and it will work ? |
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| 08:01.50 | qdb | valdyn, it works, thank you |
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| 08:10.44 | qdb | i have uncommented repos in stc apt sources list, apt-get update, apt get install fonty-rg, but says "unable to locate package fonty-rg" . it looks like is in repo : http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/fonty-rg |
| 08:13.04 | qdb | ah there are only update repos in sources list |
| 08:14.00 | qdb | si there easy way to set all default repos in sources list? and is there way to automatically find faster mirror like in synaptic? |
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| 08:15.38 | kleanchap | What is the command if I want to send an email with an attachment on the command line? The attachment is a jpeg file. |
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| 08:17.27 | pdtpatrick | kleanchap, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/sending-mail-with-attachment.html |
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| 08:18.06 | kleanchap | pdtpatrick, Thnx! |
| 08:18.14 | pdtpatrick | yw |
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| 08:19.27 | tmartiro_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:21.49 | tmartiro_ | kleanchap: the simplest way is : uuencode tt.jpeg tt.jpeg | mail test@home.com |
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| 08:29.42 | meersco | hello |
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| 08:31.07 | skilz | Any application (NON GNOME) (preferebly xfce based) to control brightness and contrast for monitor/video card? |
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| 08:32.18 | kleanchap | tmartiro_, How do I convert the ascii file on the recieving end (windows, yahoo, Android, iphone etc.etc.)? |
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| 08:38.26 | valdyn | kleanchap: thats transparent, it just works |
| 08:39.04 | tmartiro_ | kleanchap: it will work.. trust me. I tested it on my gmail account. It works like a charm |
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| 08:51.05 | meersco | oops lol |
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| 09:13.32 | born2troll | where can i suggest a feature for ne next nautilus version? i think i realy have a good idea |
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| 09:15.47 | PLuS_ | born2troll, checkout here: http://live.gnome.org/Nautilus/Ideas and here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/nautilus/ |
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| 09:16.03 | skilz | born2troll, You could try the nautilus forum or email the dev team. |
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| 09:18.35 | born2troll | what do you think about it? if you create a file wich a alreay existing filename it should offer a versioning instead of just the replace option |
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| 09:20.57 | born2troll | guys you think its a good idea? |
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| 09:22.46 | xingu | born2troll: rational software did: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/clearcase/ |
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| 09:24.06 | dutchfish | born2troll, i believe its a job of the filesystem not nautilus, have a look at gitfs or simular https://github.com/manzur/gitfs |
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| 09:28.30 | born2troll | dutchfish i can understand what u mean but im not entirely sure. in the os it may just is a list of inodes like a usual directory just the names of each entry are the same |
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| 09:30.15 | corretico | hi |
| 09:30.27 | corretico | is possible to use wine on debian wheezy?? |
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| 09:33.29 | PLuS_ | corretico, it is possible but you should compile it yourself |
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| 09:37.38 | babilen | corretico: Sure. You can pull it from sid or get newer versions from http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
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| 09:42.55 | arcsky | hello if i want encrypt /etc/freeradius/users so all my collegues cant see what password all users got. how can i do that ? |
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| 09:44.41 | dwfreed | arcsky: with proper permissions, that shouldn't be necessary; if you don't trust your collegues, then you shouldn't be giving them access to your system; also, I'm pretty sure freeradius needs that file unencrypted so that it can actually work |
| 09:45.20 | arcsky | oki |
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| 09:46.41 | arcsky | not satisfied with your opinion but thanks anyway |
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| 09:51.47 | born2troll | okey guys i did that suggestion. thx for your support at that. i may tell you later in offtopic if it have been approved or rejected |
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| 09:56.34 | skilz | Any application (NON GNOME) (preferebly xfce based) to control brightness and contrast for monitor/video card? |
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| 10:09.58 | mark76 | Xvattr, skilz? |
| 10:10.36 | skilz | ? |
| 10:10.48 | mark76 | xfce4 power manager plugins do brightness as well |
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| 10:10.59 | skilz | Why can Ubuntu use firefox but Debian can't? |
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| 10:11.02 | skilz | okay thanks |
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| 10:11.30 | arcsky | anyone know any nice mailing lists software? |
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| 10:12.34 | PLuS_ | arcsky, use mailman: http://www.list.org/ |
| 10:13.40 | arcsky | PLuS_: can i have a private one just for my collegues ? |
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| 10:15.17 | PLuS_ | arcsky, read the license: www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html |
| 10:15.31 | arcsky | thx |
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| 10:19.19 | \marco | hi all |
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| 10:22.25 | pumafyre | is there a specific disk image of squeeze for installing to a 64 bit ppc macintosh? I just installed to a 32 bit machine last week, my gf wants it on her machine also, but hers is a 64 bit |
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| 10:22.34 | glua | hi |
| 10:22.36 | pumafyre | can we use the same install disk? |
| 10:23.35 | scoobertron | I am running stable, but I want to track a couple of bleeding edge projects by compiling from source. Would it be ridiculously stupid to include the sid source repos in my sources.list so I could use apt to get the source and build the dependancies (from stable). |
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| 10:24.18 | glua | i've a sqeeze server 32bit running nfs4, after a short time it always shows a load of '2.0' but using top i cannot see any noticeable process |
| 10:24.29 | pumafyre | scoobertron: people do that all the time |
| 10:24.35 | dwfreed | pumafyre: unfortunately, probably not; I believe the installer fetches the dpkg version that matches the arch of the installer, and so you'd end up with a 32bit system, which probably won't work |
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| 10:25.02 | dwfreed | scoobertron: be sure they're deb-src: lines, and not deb: lines, and you shouldn't have any issues |
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| 10:25.29 | pumafyre | dwfreed: what disk image should I use? on the download page, it's the only ppc option: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
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| 10:26.07 | scoobertron | Thanks guys. |
| 10:26.43 | dwfreed | pumafyre: I guess there's probably no harm in trying |
| 10:27.03 | pumafyre | dwfreed: I'm running another ppc machine and I asked about ppc specific repos last week, I was surprised to learn that there aren't any; ppc and intel machines use the same repos |
| 10:27.18 | pumafyre | dwfreed: I don't know if that really relates to what you're saying though :p |
| 10:27.32 | pumafyre | hm |
| 10:27.36 | simonlnu | pumafyre: there's no specific ppc repos, no |
| 10:27.36 | pumafyre | dwfreed: I |
| 10:28.03 | dwfreed | but there's a ppc arch for the main repos |
| 10:28.09 | dwfreed | which is different |
| 10:28.11 | pumafyre | simonlnu: right. Simon, do you know about a 64bit PPC specific installation disk image? |
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| 10:28.20 | pumafyre | dwfreed: ah ok |
| 10:28.29 | simonlnu | some repos on the mirror list will have ppc packages, some won't. the latter will usually only have amd64, i386, and sometimes arm |
| 10:28.38 | pumafyre | simonlnu: oh ok |
| 10:28.42 | simonlnu | pumafyre: none. gotta use the ppc32 |
| 10:28.58 | pumafyre | simonlnu: will it end up being a 64 bit OS ? |
| 10:28.58 | dwfreed | you don't see this, because the arch that is fetched from the repos is hard-coded into dpkg |
| 10:29.08 | simonlnu | iirc you can do 'install64', but i doubt it. |
| 10:29.10 | pumafyre | dwfreed: ok |
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| 10:29.23 | pumafyre | simonlnu: ok |
| 10:29.47 | pumafyre | simonlnu: , dwfreed: I'll inquire further. thank you both |
| 10:30.04 | simonlnu | the ppc64 port was an experimental port, and was dropped by the next release (this one) |
| 10:30.06 | glua | any idea how i can see whats causing the load if top doesn't show anything special? |
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| 10:30.44 | skilz | Is it possible to install format my drive and install Debian using the HFS Plus filesystem? |
| 10:32.07 | dwfreed | skilz: I'm pretty sure that's not an option, sorry |
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| 10:33.17 | skilz | Any idea how to make it possible? |
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| 10:34.06 | skilz | I like the HFS Plus FS how if a file exists it give you options to replace, rename or append |
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| 10:34.51 | skilz | like save masterfile.txt as masterfile1.txt or masterfile(1).txt |
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| 10:35.39 | dwfreed | skilz: that's not the filesystem doing that |
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| 10:38.42 | jelly-home | skilz: there are actual versioning and logging filesystems for Linux like NILFS. What you're describing sounds more like a shell extension. |
| 10:38.52 | jelly-home | skilz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versioning_file_system#Linux |
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| 10:41.11 | skilz | That looks like what I want.. But why no support in mainstream filesystems? |
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| 10:46.39 | sylar | I want to build some source (not from debian) but I don't want it installed into the root. Does fakeroot enable doing that? |
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| 10:50.33 | skilz | Why no support for file versioning in the main stream file systems? |
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| 10:52.17 | scoobertron | with regard to getting the source packages from sid, I have added the deb-src line in sources.list. how do I tell apt-get source that I want the sid source and not stable? |
| 10:54.54 | dwfreed | scoobertron: it should be pulling from sid by default, alternately, apt-get -t sid source <package> should work |
| 10:55.19 | dwfreed | scoobertron: if it's just a few packages, packages.debian.org keeps links to the source files |
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| 10:58.41 | dxtr | skilz: Because they are generally pretty old |
| 10:59.19 | skilz | Whats pretty old? The main stream file systems? |
| 10:59.29 | dxtr | Yeah. I'd guess that's why |
| 10:59.56 | skilz | Sounds like file systems are like programming languages, they don't like any major updates.. |
| 11:00.05 | dxtr | THey don't |
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| 11:00.58 | dxtr | It's difficult to do a major update and keep backwards compatibility. |
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| 11:01.45 | skilz | True |
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| 11:05.01 | dxtr | skilz: has/will have versioning, though |
| 11:05.31 | scoobertron | cool, thanks dwfreed |
| 11:05.40 | dxtr | I admit I don't know the mechanics behind it, but I don't see the reason for it |
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| 11:06.04 | dxtr | Just seems like a waste of space to me :) |
| 11:06.39 | dxtr | If I want versioning I'll use git |
| 11:06.54 | skilz | But you can have the system purge files in order or date when space is running low, so no real problem |
| 11:07.17 | skilz | I like how Open VMS works |
| 11:07.22 | dxtr | Still.. Git.. :) |
| 11:08.07 | skilz | you have .HISTORY;34 .HISTORY;33 .HISTORY;32 |
| 11:08.11 | skilz | thats on VMS |
| 11:08.29 | skilz | LOGIN.COM;4 LOGIN.COM;3 |
| 11:08.53 | skilz | NOTEBOOK.NOTE;1 SECRETS.TAR;1 SSH2.DIR;1 <-- We all have secrets. |
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| 11:11.19 | pbase | I am on wheezy. my dad is using squeeze and his computer needs to be updated to wheezy. I saved the archived using aptoncd. and restored it on his computer.. but I still see the stable version. how do I install the saved packages on his computer? |
| 11:11.39 | qdb | is not this http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/fonty-rg in main repo ? |
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| 11:12.24 | pbase | I have changed his repository to wheezy |
| 11:12.47 | dwfreed | pbase: did you run aptitude update or apt-get update after doing so? |
| 11:12.54 | pbase | hmm no |
| 11:12.57 | pbase | let me try |
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| 11:16.07 | pbase | dwfreed: no effect. still the update manager showing 406 updates |
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| 11:17.08 | dwfreed | pbase: copy all of the .deb's from the cd into /var/cache/apt/packages, then run aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 11:17.14 | pbase | what script is executed just after apt fetches all the packages while updating? |
| 11:18.11 | pbase | ok |
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| 11:20.11 | Trudko | Guys hi, I have slow pc - Intel Core 2 2160, 1GB DDR 1 Ram windows XP and I am in process of buying new one. Meanwhile i need to develop for android and I hoped that it would be more smooth on Debian. |
| 11:20.48 | Trudko | Do you think its worth it to try Debian, would it be easy for me to develop on it for android? Will my Phone HTC Desire Z be recognised easily? |
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| 11:21.18 | pbase | dwfreed: its connecting to the internet to fetch 500mb of data |
| 11:22.32 | pbase | dwfreed: aptoncd had already copied the debs in the folder. I just issued aptitude dist-upgrade.. and its fetching around 500 mb data again from the internet |
| 11:22.38 | Trudko | Right now I am running on Lubuntu, but even that is not soomth all the time |
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| 11:22.51 | dwfreed | pbase: hmph; I have no clue anymore |
| 11:23.30 | TheRealL | Hello, I am having a problem with my Debian server, and since I don't know what exactly to search for, I was hoping to get some help here. (Believe me, I prefer to search, but I don't know what the feature is called). The thing is, I run dpkg-configure locales, and when I get the window comming up, all i see is this - http://imgur.com/iqKAV - which is not what it is supposed to look like, plus moving up and down doesn't work at all |
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| 11:24.28 | PLuS_ | Trudko, ye it is easy, I have not worked on Windows, but I have done development of android (with android sdk) ant it's easy. |
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| 11:25.25 | pbase | dwfreed: thanks for the help |
| 11:25.46 | Trudko | PLuS_: easy for non Linux user? Plus is it more light weight then Lubuntu? |
| 11:25.50 | Trudko | it = debian |
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| 11:31.29 | PLuS_ | I believe it's easy for non-GNU/Linux user, beside it is light weight in the way you configure it (I mean it depends on packages you install, normally it is light weight) |
| 11:31.33 | jelly-home | TheRealL: looks like a terminal emulator issue. Which terminal emulator are you using? |
| 11:32.09 | TheRealL | jelly-home: Currently I am using the Mac OS X Terminal, but I get the same in Putty on Windows |
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| 11:33.30 | SimonJai | hey guys |
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| 11:33.40 | jelly-home | TheRealL: can you pastebin the output of "env" command in the root shell? |
| 11:33.46 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 11:33.47 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 11:34.12 | SimonJai | got a drive showing the following: |
| 11:34.16 | SimonJai | /dev/hdc1 294G 279G 0 100% /mnt/data |
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| 11:34.23 | SimonJai | any ideas on how to free up the space |
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| 11:36.06 | TheRealL | jelly-home: here : http://pastebin.com/P30xGbUT |
| 11:36.28 | jelly-home | SimonJai: delete some files! Use "du" command to figure out which directories take up the most. You could "du /mnt/data | sort -n" to order the output by number value |
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| 11:36.45 | SimonJai | it should have 20GB free |
| 11:36.49 | SimonJai | ok let me see |
| 11:37.13 | jelly-home | TheRealL: oh, I meant on the remote machine |
| 11:37.31 | TheRealL | I have included both in that pste |
| 11:37.33 | TheRealL | paste* |
| 11:37.45 | TheRealL | Line 22 and below |
| 11:37.53 | SimonJai | yeah it should have 20GB free space, but it's not showing up |
| 11:38.04 | SimonJai | even after I umount and remount the drive |
| 11:38.04 | jelly-home | TheRealL: yeah, I' |
| 11:38.41 | jelly-home | TheRealL: m a lazy bastard. Nothing immediately wrong. |
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| 11:40.09 | jelly-home | TheRealL: does it look any different if you "TERM=xterm dpkg-reconfigure locales"? |
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| 11:40.37 | TheRealL | jelly-home: Nope |
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| 11:44.11 | jelly-home | TheRealL: well. if you need to do work first, you and work around the dialog breakage by choosing a simpler debconf (dpkg-reconfigure) frontend: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=readline dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 11:44.22 | jelly-home | can* work around |
| 11:44.43 | jelly-home | TheRealL: man 7 debconf lists the alternatives |
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| 11:45.49 | jelly-home | I guess it's possible you have a different whiptail(1) or dialog(1) in PATH |
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| 11:46.22 | jelly-home | or they have nondefault configuration somewhere |
| 11:46.33 | Morgawr | question: I'm recompiling the debian kernel, why is it that when I launch make-kpkg with a custom name for the kernel version (--append-to-version) I get a kernel panic (unable to mount root fs on unknown-block) but when I don't do that (and I get a standard kernel name) it works perfectly? |
| 11:47.05 | Morgawr | I need this kernel to have a custom name cause it's a patched kernel, but if I do that it just panics |
| 11:47.22 | jelly-home | Morgawr: have you forgotten to --initrd ? |
| 11:47.37 | Morgawr | oh... probably.. |
| 11:47.52 | Morgawr | but.. when I don't put --append-to-version and omit --initrd it still works |
| 11:47.53 | Morgawr | :/ |
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| 11:48.16 | Morgawr | anyway, thanks jelly-home, that's probably it :) |
| 11:48.26 | nsadmin | "works"? boots, runs, doesn't panic? |
| 11:48.30 | Morgawr | yeah |
| 11:48.54 | TheRealL | jelly-home: Thanks for the tip, i'd prefer to get this working though, if I can't get it working, then I'm considering a reinstall |
| 11:49.06 | TheRealL | because something must be broken somewhere |
| 11:49.06 | jelly-home | the boot loader might be configured to use a previously existing initrd image for appropriate `uname -r`, maybe |
| 11:49.19 | Morgawr | jelly-home: yeah, that's what I was thinking too.. |
| 11:49.20 | nsadmin | one possibility, if you don't add the version thing, the old modules probably are still around |
| 11:49.52 | nsadmin | because it keys the name to the module dir and the initrd image |
| 11:50.19 | nsadmin | so, |
| 11:50.41 | qdb | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=46691 do not work to make tatar cyrillic letters in pure terminal, fonty-rg do not work, utf8 command of it do not work, fbterm needs to install framebuffer device. what is it? |
| 11:50.47 | nsadmin | if you don't add the version thing you don't get a fully new thing |
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| 11:51.31 | qdb | why did not fbterm automatically install frame buffer ? |
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| 11:52.28 | jelly-home | qdb: the frame buffer is a kernel boot parameter, for you to configure as the value depends on actual hardware |
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| 11:52.50 | jelly-home | qdb: which debian release are you using and which graphic card? |
| 11:53.30 | qdb | squeeze ... sis 6326 |
| 11:55.06 | jelly-home | qdb: I guess you could try booting with video=sisfb, but read "modinfo sisfb" for details about its tunables |
| 11:55.36 | jelly-home | it's probably easier to start up X and a maximized xterm |
| 11:56.33 | qdb | modinfo do not work |
| 11:57.26 | qdb | not found |
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| 11:57.54 | nsadmin | thanks for being specific about "do not work" |
| 11:58.23 | scanf | what should i do in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to only allow logins with key |
| 11:59.30 | qdb | tatar and other additional cyrilllic letters are not so complex as chinese signs why cannot they be installed ? do you know way? |
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| 11:59.59 | nsadmin | I don't exactly remember... but, I did see somethjing about key login, passwed login in that file |
| 12:00.10 | nsadmin | you should read thru the whole file |
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| 12:00.58 | Imran-UK | in bash, how would i match foo.log.N where N could be 0 to 99 ? i need this in a logrotate snippet |
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| 12:03.27 | clone_of_saturn | Imran-UK: foo.log.[0-9]{,[0-9]} |
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| 12:03.57 | jelly-home | clone_of_saturn: would that not also match foo.log.07 |
| 12:05.04 | jelly-home | there's foo.log.{0..99} but it does not match as much as generate parameters |
| 12:05.12 | clone_of_saturn | yes, if that's a problem, foo.log.{[0-9],[1-9][0-9]} |
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| 12:05.45 | NoReflex | hello! is there a way to check the size of the system upper memory while debian is running? I have some problems with a HBA (LSI 9211-8i) and someone pointed out that the configuration utility does not start if it cannot allocate enough memory. |
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| 12:06.10 | clone_of_saturn | cat /proc/meminfo |
| 12:06.52 | jelly-home | yay microoptimization! echo foo.log.{,[1-9]}[0-9] |
| 12:07.44 | qdb | jelly-home, can i use this way http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/howto-change-framebuffer-in-grub-debian/ |
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| 12:08.32 | jelly-home | qdb: that looks like a setting for GRUB, not the OS that comes after it |
| 12:08.51 | qdb | ok i ll read http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41881 |
| 12:09.25 | qdb | ( though i have already read translation of it http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Tv6X_nLpWVEJ:bonstorm.livejournal.com/4376.html+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu ) |
| 12:09.29 | jelly-home | qdb: really, just try editing the linux command line on the fly until you get it right |
| 12:09.57 | NoReflex | clone_of_saturn, which the field I'm looking for? |
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| 12:11.18 | qdb | jelly-home, what? where? you mean press e in grub and edit it? |
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| 12:12.14 | qdb | "frame buffer is a kernel boot parameter" so i probably cannot change it without reboot of kernel |
| 12:12.50 | nsadmin | that would be true |
| 12:14.14 | nsadmin | otoh, (IN GENERAL) kernel boot parameters might be feeding the values of kernel variables that might be settable while the kernel is running |
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| 12:15.39 | nsadmin | grub has a mechanism for feeding kernel parameters into boot stanzas |
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| 12:18.15 | TheRealL | jelly-home: I tried out another command, the watch "ls -alh" command and that gave me this wierd window... http://i.imgur.com/8zUuM.png ...There must be something wrong |
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| 12:19.52 | mrtn_ | In JUNOS(Juniper OS) if I execute "set protocols bgp group <*> neighbor 192.168.1.1 authentication-key test", the hash in the configuration would be following: http://pastebin.com/XH6Heq3H Where does this hash come from? I mean it's certainly not "echo -n test | md5sum". Any ideas? Or what is a salt $9$ before the hash? |
| 12:20.31 | nsadmin | what's a juniperos? |
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| 12:21.23 | Imran-UK | clone_of_saturn, brilliant, thank you |
| 12:21.29 | valdyn | mrtn_: this is a debian support channel |
| 12:22.36 | mrtn_ | valdyn, it's a more general security related question. I mean it not JUNOS specific and I use md5sum under debian. |
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| 12:23.20 | valdyn | mrtn_: that does not make it a debian question |
| 12:23.30 | valdyn | mrtn_: #bash maybe |
| 12:23.31 | mrtn_ | valdyn, :D |
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| 12:24.42 | sts | how do i start to build a debian package from a bazaar branch? |
| 12:25.44 | jelly-home | qdb: yes, that's exactly what it takes |
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| 12:26.59 | jelly-home | TheRealL: run 'reset' to unscrew the terminal |
| 12:27.23 | jelly-home | TheRealL: if that fails, "TERM=vt100 reset" may work better |
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| 12:29.30 | keck0f | hi |
| 12:30.30 | keck0f | what man-page describes the the mechanisms using softlinks in /etc/rc?.d/ ? |
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| 12:31.14 | TheRealL | jelly-home: That worked, thanks |
| 12:31.18 | nkuttler | keck0f: udpate-rc.d |
| 12:31.21 | nsadmin | read /etc/init.d/README |
| 12:31.27 | nsadmin | read /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 12:31.38 | nsadmin | man update-rc.d |
| 12:32.23 | keck0f | nkuttler, nsadmin: thank you |
| 12:32.50 | maxorator | is there any way to make debian not install outdated software that has been stupidly renamed? |
| 12:33.08 | maxorator | I want to install firefox 8, not a firefox 3.5 clone |
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| 12:33.26 | nkuttler | maxorator: that's not how stable works |
| 12:33.33 | nkuttler | !tell maxorator about stable |
| 12:33.36 | nkuttler | !tell maxorator about backports |
| 12:33.38 | phogg | maxorator: if you don't want it, don't install it |
| 12:34.30 | nkuttler | !tell maxorator about iceweasel backports |
| 12:37.53 | maxorator | so debian is basically making "snapshots" of the software world once every 2-3 years? |
| 12:38.19 | sts | maxorator: in stable, yes. |
| 12:38.58 | qdb | jelly-home, i have installed 1024 768 24 mode, vesafb vga=... but fbterm do not work, says cannot open framebuffer device |
| 12:38.59 | maxorator | is there a version that is not "stable" and can I switch to that without reinstall? |
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| 12:39.06 | sts | maxorator: but on the other hand you get a fully compatible snapshot of allmost everything. ;-) compared to other distributions, they just have a very small set of packages to maintain. |
| 12:39.24 | sts | maxorator: you can run testing. |
| 12:39.29 | jelly-home | qdb: why vesafb and not sisfb? |
| 12:39.41 | qdb | jelly-home, btw this setting seems has not changed reolution, it was as it now |
| 12:39.53 | qdb | ok thank you i ll try |
| 12:39.58 | maxorator | sts, but then I'm also only able to do things that were possible at that time |
| 12:40.02 | sts | maxorator: testing is basically a rolling release IIRC. so after a certain time in unstable, it traverses into testing. |
| 12:40.12 | jelly-home | qdb: I guess you could try booting with video=sisfb, but read "modinfo sisfb" for details about its tunables |
| 12:40.21 | maxorator | sts, that sounds like "very-special-purpose" rather than the tagline "universal operating system" |
| 12:41.06 | sts | maxorator: compare debian to other distributions, you will notice the difference in the volume of packages debian is able to maintain. |
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| 12:41.38 | sts | maxorator: but I don't know whats the universal thingy in the tagline related to. |
| 12:41.41 | qdb | thank you i think modinfo maybe in grub |
| 12:41.58 | jelly-home | maxorator: which more universal purpose are you failing to achieve with debian stable? |
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| 12:42.54 | maxorator | jelly-home, using software that is newer than 3 years old is very, very mainstream, therefore not being able to do that out of the box is not in any way "universal" |
| 12:42.56 | sts | maxorator: why does that sound very special purpose? IMHO the testing concept is not much different to other rolling release distributions (eg. gentoo). |
| 12:43.08 | nsadmin | grub modules are not kernel modules, and yes, grub probably has modinfo, but for grub modules |
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| 12:43.36 | jelly-home | maxorator: can you point to any particular software that fails for your work? |
| 12:43.41 | maxorator | sts, special purpose in the sense that it's not for every-day use, but maybe good for something that requires extreme stability, such as webservers |
| 12:43.42 | nkuttler | maxorator: you are only talking about the stable release. we have shown you how to install more recent software. yawn. |
| 12:43.56 | nsadmin | the difference being testing doesn't have to work |
| 12:44.17 | sts | maxorator: well, what do you want to use it for? a bleeding edge workstation? then it might be the wrong solution for you. |
| 12:44.29 | maxorator | jelly-home, at the moment I was just trying to find out whether I can get firefox 8 through the package manager, haven't tested getting the files from somewhere else yet |
| 12:44.40 | qdb | jelly-home, how to install command modinfo ? |
| 12:44.44 | jelly-home | maxorator: in my experience, "stable" release is usable for every day workstation work and server workloads. You can visit my employer and see people using it daily. |
| 12:44.51 | nsadmin | bleeding edges usually have red spots |
| 12:45.07 | jelly-home | qdb: it's already there, but in /sbin |
| 12:45.08 | qdb | and i have seen message that 0x118 is deprecated, when linux boots |
| 12:45.09 | nsadmin | , versions modinfo |
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| 12:45.11 | judd | No package named 'modinfo' was found in i386. |
| 12:45.41 | nsadmin | you can't run modinfo except as root |
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| 12:45.49 | maxorator | jelly-home, so it is against debian philosophy to for example use versions of firefox above 3.5? |
| 12:45.56 | jelly-home | maxorator: you can't get any Firefox, but you can get the rebranded Iceweasel /msg dpkg mdn |
| 12:46.28 | sts | maxorator: no. |
| 12:46.37 | nsadmin | unless you get it completely outside debian packaging,,, in which case it is not supported here |
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| 12:47.05 | maxorator | jelly-home, I know about iceweasel in the package manager, but that is at version 3.5 |
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| 12:47.30 | qdb | hm now found nsadmin probably i tried to run it not as root |
| 12:47.30 | jelly-home | maxorator: please read what dpkg tells you after you do "/msg dpkg mdn" in your irc client. |
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| 12:47.43 | nsadmin | , versions iceweasel |
| 12:47.43 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-10; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-11~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-11; sid: 8.0-3+b1; wheezy: 8.0-3+b1; experimental: 9.0~b5-1 |
| 12:47.56 | xconspirisist1 | hey folks. Is is possible to obtain a filelist of every file on the system that does not belong to a package? |
| 12:47.59 | jelly-home | nsadmin: judd does not list packages from mdn |
| 12:48.08 | sts | maxorator: http://packages.debian.org/iceweasel |
| 12:48.35 | nsadmin | true, and he said he wanted 8 |
| 12:48.49 | nsadmin | I took a chance... soomee! |
| 12:48.55 | hid3 | Hello everyone. I have one bash script which works in while true cycle, so it does not go into background. Is there any way to get rid of the script foreground without running it into a `screen`? I mean, How do I run such script in background? |
| 12:48.55 | qdb | jelly-home, sis 6326 not listed in description in modinfo sisfb |
| 12:49.23 | nkuttler | xconspirisist1: doubtful. some packages generate config files etc which wouldn't be accounted for |
| 12:49.30 | xconspirisist1 | hid3: ./myScript.sh & |
| 12:49.40 | hid3 | Oh, that simple. Thanks! |
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| 12:49.49 | xconspirisist1 | nkuttler: arf. |
| 12:49.52 | jelly-home | qdb: have you tried it, though? |
| 12:50.08 | sts | maxorator: if you want to always have the most rescent versions of software installed, try a dist-upgrade to testing. |
| 12:50.44 | nkuttler | xconspirisist1: fwiw you can use dpkg -S and dpkg -L.. see /msg dpkg search |
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| 12:51.15 | maxorator | sts, is there any version I can install that is in "testing" mode out of the box? |
| 12:51.17 | nkuttler | maxorator: running testing just to get a new firefox is a bad idea |
| 12:51.29 | maxorator | since I just installed it in a VM, no problem reinstalling, nothing on it yet anyway |
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| 12:51.39 | qdb | jelly-home, i have seen modinfo sisfb , what to do ? |
| 12:51.42 | nkuttler | maxorator: if you don't like the official backports you can build your own. /msg dpkg ssbp |
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| 12:52.10 | qdb | i go away |
| 12:52.30 | jelly-home | see you |
| 12:52.46 | sts | maxorator: its the 'testing' release. its a rolling release, and from time to time we create a snapshot, which is then called 'stable'. :-) |
| 12:53.26 | sts | maxorator: Debian/wheezy (testing) currently has version 8.0-3+b1 |
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| 12:54.06 | sts | maxorator: if you are looking for debian packages, or avaiable versions of packages, just visit http://packages.debian.org |
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| 12:55.28 | maxorator | on my web server I've been running the stable release for 2 years and it hasn't really bothered me, but when using it as a desktop OS, it instantly gets in the way |
| 12:55.45 | sts | maxorator: you could also pin packages. eg. run stable and install packages from testing. |
| 12:55.51 | maxorator | is the package manager of "testing" comparable to that of the ubuntu? |
| 12:56.30 | sts | maxorator: the package management system is the same, its called APT or DPKG. |
| 12:56.43 | maxorator | umm, sorry, I meant the list of available packages |
| 12:56.52 | valdyn | maxorator: there'S mozilla.debian.net |
| 12:56.53 | sts | maxorator: no its not the same. |
| 12:56.58 | maxorator | as in are they about as much up to date as ubuntu's |
| 12:57.12 | valdyn | maxorator: and theres debian backports |
| 12:57.18 | sts | maxorator: i thing ubuntu has more success on desktops. :) |
| 12:57.32 | sts | s/thing/think/ |
| 12:58.20 | valdyn | "success" depends on quality that are not priority in debian |
| 12:58.28 | valdyn | *qualities* |
| 12:58.32 | jelly-home | maxorator: people at my workplace use stable + Firefox and Thunderbird directly from mozilla |
| 12:59.01 | jelly-home | mozilla does their own security updates and stuff usually just works |
| 12:59.15 | maxorator | sts, yes, but in each version they do something catastrophic to the UI, (min/max/close buttons outside the window, file/edit/etc list outside the menu, the thing on the left side in unity etc) |
| 12:59.32 | valdyn | maxorator: thats configurable |
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| 12:59.52 | bzed | sts, maxorator: installing packages form testing in stable means that you basically upgrade to testing, as you'll have a new libc and other fun. Either use testing *or* stable with backports. mixing will create even a larger mess |
| 12:59.58 | maxorator | jelly-home, that sounds good but the reason I am currently installing linux is for mostly doing experimental stuff, so I guess stable is not good for that |
| 13:00.58 | maxorator | valdyn, that might be so, but afaik it's not configurable through UI, meaning I would have to go through A LOT of configuration stuff to eventually fix what they've broken |
| 13:01.25 | valdyn | maxorator: in other words, debian is not for you |
| 13:01.41 | valdyn | maxorator: i mean, debian is *mainly* not configured through UI |
| 13:02.03 | sts | maxorator: we love config files. hehe |
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| 13:02.10 | maxorator | valdyn, I just realized we were talking about different things, I meant that ubuntu UI is so broken that I would have to spend a long time fixing it |
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| 13:02.24 | valdyn | maxorator: ok, I see |
| 13:02.49 | valdyn | maxorator: if you want to experiment, just install anything and see how it goes |
| 13:02.49 | maxorator | configuring other stuff through files does not bother me that much |
| 13:03.06 | valdyn | maxorator: or in debian you install stable anyway and "upgrade" if you want |
| 13:03.23 | sts | I love my macbook as a workstation. :- |
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| 13:04.06 | keck0f | if there are links /etc/rc2.d/K* pointing to skripts, will the skripts be executed when booting up this way N -> S -> 2 ? |
| 13:04.14 | maxorator | I use W7 as a workstation, but sometimes do some stuff over SSH on my debian web server |
| 13:04.32 | keck0f | if there are links /etc/rcS.d/K* pointing to skripts, will the skripts be executed when booting up this way N -> S -> 2 ? |
| 13:04.48 | jelly-home | maxorator: if you do lots of development with newer versions of libraries and other tools, testing or unstable may be a fit but those can break horribly and require some expertise to unbreak |
| 13:04.52 | valdyn | keck0f: wheres the N ? |
| 13:04.59 | maxorator | currently I want to test some things on linux, but it involves large amounts of data that would take ages just to send to my server |
| 13:05.22 | nsadmin | keck0f, one one time time plenty plenty |
| 13:06.41 | maxorator | jelly-home, not really a problem since I run it in a VM and will probably use snapshots |
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| 13:07.29 | HashNuke | I'm writing a debian init script and would to know if I can use the "source" command to source another bash file from within the script. I have this question because source is not available in sh but is available in bash. |
| 13:07.46 | sts | maxorator: if you develop stuff which needs to run on your server, then i would recommmend running the same environment as on the server btw. |
| 13:08.23 | maxorator | not really, the stuff wasn't meant to run on the server anyway, just that it's the easiest to access linux I got on my hands atm |
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| 13:09.50 | keck0f | valdyn, nsadmin: /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.runlevels.gz tells thefolliwing: Because the previous runlevel is "N" (none) the /etc/rc2.d/KXXxxxx scripts will NOT be executed - there is nothing to stop yet, the system is busy coming up. |
| 13:10.23 | valdyn | keck0f: neat, i didnt know that one |
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| 13:10.47 | MMlosh | Hi! I installed fresh debian squeeze via netinstall (and I got exim+nfs installed, even when I left the checkboxes unchecked) and /etc/network/interfaces's way of configuring bridge does not work for me.. it says "Don't seem to have all the variables for br0/inet". |
| 13:10.50 | keck0f | valdyn, nsadmin: thanks for your time |
| 13:10.53 | MMlosh | With inet manual it works fine |
| 13:11.42 | nsadmin | that's still weird... things should be stopped only when they've been started |
| 13:11.51 | nsadmin | that sounds like a kludge |
| 13:11.54 | MMlosh | I have address, netmask, gateway.. and bridge_ports |
| 13:12.05 | valdyn | nsadmin: nothing keeps track of whats started in this init system |
| 13:12.20 | valdyn | nsadmin: works fine |
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| 13:12.50 | valdyn | nsadmin: except when theres init scripts that fail when stopping somethign thats not running |
| 13:12.52 | nsadmin | so it's not actually a dep-based init? |
| 13:12.54 | maxorator | squeeze is the "testing" version? |
| 13:13.02 | valdyn | nsadmin: uh |
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| 13:13.06 | valdyn | nsadmin: thats unrelated |
| 13:13.14 | valdyn | nsadmin: the dependencies are not done at runtime |
| 13:13.36 | valdyn | nsadmin: runtime is just executing a predifined order |
| 13:14.06 | valdyn | nsadmin: setup time may be dependency based or manual. As long as dependencies are preserved that works. |
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| 13:15.43 | valdyn | nsadmin: insserv calculates dependencies, "manual" means that the debian developers did manage the dependencies with pen and paper or however they wanted. |
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| 13:19.05 | maxorator | what's the difference between "testing" and "unstable" ? |
| 13:19.09 | valdyn | nsadmin: in a way youre right, its a kludge around no one ever adding unified support for doing this properly |
| 13:19.37 | valdyn | maxorator: testing packages qualified to testing by having no serious bug reported for 10 days |
| 13:20.02 | nsadmin | valdyn, yeah, and I didn't realize the deps were "compiled" |
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| 13:21.01 | valdyn | nsadmin: systemd tried to fix this, but as far as i understand this is a quite difficult problem on unix. I cant say if they get it right. |
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| 13:25.33 | nsadmin | well if they had a system like debian packages and provides:, that could make things work |
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| 13:26.27 | phogg | maxorator: testing is a staging ground where the next stable is being prepared. Unstable is only for people who know what it is and why they shouldn't use it. |
| 13:27.12 | nsadmin | and as long as they know why they shouldn't use it, they can use it! |
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| 13:31.23 | mparodi | Hello |
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| 13:32.53 | mparodi | I'm trying to configure a network directly through eth0 using a simple network cable (not crosover, I believe) but it's not working. do I have to do anything else other than # ifconfig 192.168.1.X netmask 255.255.255.0 up where X is 2 in my PC and 3 in the other one? |
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| 13:33.13 | mparodi | it's possible to do so, right? |
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| 13:34.37 | net4life | hi |
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| 13:35.20 | Walzmyn | I'm typing /join #debian-next and nothing happens |
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| 13:37.04 | nkuttler | Walzmyn: #debian-next is on the oftc network |
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| 13:37.46 | Walzmyn | oh |
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| 13:38.11 | Walzmyn | why are they on different networks? |
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| 13:39.34 | RCX_Slinger | Hello! A quick (noob) question: On some updates, config files are not updated with new variables (when new features are added to scripts, and older removed), how do I notice these cases? |
| 13:39.34 | RCX_Slinger | An example: after updating initscripts, support for new variables (like "RAMTMP": mount /tmp as ramfs) was added to the scripts. But the file "/etc/default/rcS" wasn't updated to include the new variables (of course, since it's a manual configuration file which should not be overwritten with the new default). It took several months before I noticed this (and then set RAMTMP=yes and removed my custom line from fstab which did the |
| 13:39.56 | maxorator | hmm, why does debian sometimes require the installation CD when using synaptic? |
| 13:40.31 | nkuttler | maxorator: remove the cd entry from your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:40.40 | nkuttler | !tell maxorator about sources.list |
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| 13:42.01 | nkuttler | RCX_Slinger: debian shouldn't introduce new features during upgrades, unless you move to a new release. in this case the release notes should cover such things |
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| 13:44.17 | RCX_Slinger | I was updating testing and that I don't think I got any mail on the update (some variables were made obsolete, and a few new ones added). |
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| 13:44.56 | sflemming | hi all, can someone please help me with an installation problem? I want to use a debian image from my provider that is used as platform for proxmox but when I try to install a binary called ve-firmware_1.0-13_all.deb I get the error posted at http://pastebin.com/566bCBgM. Any idea? |
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| 13:45.23 | nkuttler | RCX_Slinger: you wouldn't get a mail. during the upgrade you should be asked what to do with the new config file. use old version, upgrade, etc |
| 13:45.37 | mparodi | any idea about how to configure two PCs to connect them over eth0 using a simple network wire? |
| 13:45.37 | nkuttler | RCX_Slinger: the system doesn't know about any custom files though |
| 13:46.12 | nkuttler | mparodi: just give them static ips on the same network |
| 13:46.21 | somiaj | RCX_Slinger: testing is a moving target, don't expect its upgrades to always be smooth. Once testing freezes a bit more effort is put into ensure the upgrade from the current stable works. |
| 13:46.51 | mparodi | nkuttler, I did # ifconfig 192.168.1.X netmask 255.255.255.0 up |
| 13:47.00 | mparodi | where X is 2 in this PC and 3 in the other one |
| 13:47.04 | mparodi | but it doesn't work |
| 13:47.13 | mparodi | nkuttler, is there anything else I need to do? |
| 13:47.26 | nkuttler | mparodi: make sure your nice + cable aren't broken |
| 13:47.31 | nkuttler | NICs |
| 13:47.38 | mparodi | it's not broken |
| 13:47.43 | mparodi | but as I said, it's not crossed |
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| 13:47.56 | nkuttler | oh, that could be a problem, depends on the card |
| 13:48.09 | mparodi | ahm, I thought it should work with any card |
| 13:49.00 | nkuttler | no, not really |
| 13:49.15 | mparodi | maybe I can tell the card that it has to cross it manually, is it possible? |
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| 13:52.01 | qdb | why there is 0x318 in http://www.gregfolkert.net/info/vesa-display-codes.html and same params are 0x118 in grub2 vbeinfo ? i ll search aboiut that... |
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| 13:52.48 | nkuttler | mparodi: btw, what's the output of ifconfig? |
| 13:52.56 | RCX_Slinger | Thanks for the answer. I guess these kind of things *should not happen* on debian without the admin being informed (and that's really all what I wanted to know). I am surprised I didn't get an email (nor was asked on the upgrade about the new file), but I guess I should expect some things like this to occur in testing (or it was I who messed something up...). Thanks again! |
| 13:53.08 | JaredKz | hey my computer just keeps randomly freezing up during Debian net install... also when I was in BIOS my computer froze up as well... any guesses to what this is? |
| 13:53.12 | sflemming | no idea how to solve my problem? It might be a solvable newbie question. This is my first time that I use debian after gentoo and I start with such a problem... |
| 13:53.24 | nkuttler | JaredKz: bad hardware |
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| 13:53.47 | somiaj | RCX_Slinger: yes not everything in testing is going to be bugfree -- if you are running a system that requires such notifaction, why are you running testing, this should not be used on production servers |
| 13:54.06 | nkuttler | sflemming: you have two packages that want to install the same file. can |
| 13:54.07 | mparodi | argh, I tried to connect the other PC directly to the router but I can't neither u.u |
| 13:54.11 | nkuttler | sflemming: can't do that |
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| 13:54.43 | JaredKz | nkuttler, I never had the problem before I started installing debian, which is what makes things wierd... or coincidence? |
| 13:54.56 | qdb | "The video mode number of the Linux kernel is the VESA mode number plus0x200." |
| 13:55.08 | nkuttler | JaredKz: well if your box freezes in the bios menu.. |
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| 13:55.12 | somiaj | sflemming: what is the output from 'apt-cache policy pve-firmware' -- care to put it in a pastebin? |
| 13:55.17 | sflemming | nkuttler: Okay, but the package proxmox-ve depends on the package and won't install. How can I remove the second package that provides the same files? |
| 13:55.27 | RCX_Slinger | somiaj: You're absolutely correct. But it was only a private/home server. I needed to use testing to get support for the hardware (amd fusion cpu/gpu). I'll stick to stable once the next one is released. |
| 13:55.50 | somiaj | RCX_Slinger: does the backport kernel 2.6.39 not have support for amd fusion? |
| 13:56.07 | JaredKz | nkuttler, could a USB drive cause that? |
| 13:56.34 | nkuttler | JaredKz: everything is possible i guess |
| 13:56.40 | sflemming | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/xkvcDfTC . This debian image is the official hetzner virtualization image that can be preinstalled when you order a new server |
| 13:56.42 | JaredKz | hmmmm.... |
| 13:56.56 | somiaj | RCX_Slinger: Well you are welcome to run testing, just realize by its nature things my change/break with out notification. Make sure you have apt-listbugs installed and pay attention to your upgrades to limit stuff like this from happing. |
| 13:57.04 | nkuttler | sflemming: sounds like you should be talking to hetzner support. anyway, the offending package is listed in the error |
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| 13:57.16 | mparodi | ok, I won't try to connect them directly using eth0 but through my router. it must be simpler. I edited /etc/network/interfaces and I added auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet dhcp. then I did /etc/init.d/networking restart |
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| 13:57.21 | mparodi | it should be connected now, right? |
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| 13:58.35 | sflemming | nkuttler: only about the syntax, how to interpret the output. is this squeeze/pve that provides it or what should i try to remove? |
| 13:58.50 | somiaj | sflemming: you are trying to install an unoffical package, its not debians responsability to support such a thing. You should file a bug with the creator/matainer of that package. Though it is just a common file issue. If you aren't using the realtek-firmware you could just remove that package (But be careful, if you do need any firmware in that package the devices that use it could become unusable) |
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| 14:00.41 | RCX_Slinger | somiaj: okay. I wasn't expecting testing to be as reliable as stable, just wanted to know that this kind of upgrade should *normally* work (at least on stable). Oh, and I didn't know about "backport" before... I got some reading to do... :-) |
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| 14:01.31 | sflemming | somiaj: Yes, I realized that they changed it and I know that debian is not responsible. The problem is that my virtualization environment will not install when pve-firmware is missing. is it maybe possible to fake that pve-firmware is installed to that the installation dependency is resolved and i can continue installing proxmox? |
| 14:02.30 | nkuttler | sflemming: um, there's equivs, but you should *really* be talking to hetzner support |
| 14:02.44 | qdb | jelly-home, http://www.rastersoft.com/sis6326fbeng.html |
| 14:03.56 | somiaj | sflemming: this package conflicts with an offical package. You need to decide if this conflit is an issue or not. if you remove the realtek-firmware package its conflicting with you won't get this error. But as I said if you require something in the realtek-firmware package you will have to deal with that issue |
| 14:04.15 | sflemming | nkuttler: Yes, I will do but it is saturday and they won't have support until monday. Really ugly the problem. I think it is simply a proxmox problem but the community is quite lazy, get no answer. |
| 14:04.44 | samuderapase | my debian have problem |
| 14:05.02 | samuderapase | libc6.0.so no such file directory when booting |
| 14:05.18 | samuderapase | I make debian 7 wheezy |
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| 14:05.34 | samuderapase | any solutions? |
| 14:05.46 | samuderapase | for this problem...? |
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| 14:06.51 | somiaj | sflemming: again do you have any realtek hardware that requires firmware (you could also just copy the firmware you require and not use the package that contains all of the firmware) |
| 14:06.53 | sflemming | somiaj: hm, okay I realize the problem. Since this is my first step in a fresh installation I can try to deinstall the official package but how can I get the name of the package to allow proxmox using their implementation? |
| 14:07.17 | somiaj | sflemming: do you read the errors you pasted at all? The error tells you exactly which package it conflicts with and why. |
| 14:07.31 | nsadmin | samuderapase, try stable |
| 14:07.37 | somiaj | sflemming: http://pastebin.com/566bCBgM -- read line 13 |
| 14:07.51 | somiaj | sflemming: (14 and 15 as well) |
| 14:08.15 | JaredKz | So, I narrowed down my problem to it crashing on the Scanning Disks screen, I do have a half-installation on a partition on the system, could this be causing it to crash? |
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| 14:09.18 | nkuttler | JaredKz: sounds more like a broken controller to me... or something |
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| 14:09.27 | nkuttler | JaredKz: run some hardware diagnostics tools |
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| 14:09.32 | sflemming | somiaj: yes, I read it and I struggle since yesterday. Line 13 says that is is a a problem with pve-firmware but that is the name of the package that I try to install with apt-get, so i do not really know how to find the official package that seems to be preinstalled and proves this boot.img. Even renaming the RTL8192E folder does not solve the problem |
| 14:09.38 | JaredKz | nkuttler, any suggestions? |
| 14:09.44 | JaredKz | for hardware diagnostic tools I mean |
| 14:09.57 | nkuttler | JaredKz: i use ultimate boot cd |
| 14:10.09 | JaredKz | kk I'll try that, thx |
| 14:10.15 | somiaj | sflemming: well I guess then you need to get some reading comprhision skills. what does line 14 say? |
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| 14:11.50 | sflemming | somiaj: Oh yes, sorry... when I try to remove firmware-realtek it says http://pastebin.com/8ZrPsLuC |
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| 14:12.13 | samuderapase | nsadmin: ?? |
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| 14:12.39 | somiaj | sflemming: that error is because of the unoffical package again. Read it. your apt is messed up because of the unoffical pcakge breaking things. Use dpkg to fix it. |
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| 14:13.00 | somiaj | sflemming: it even tells you a command you could run to 'fix' it |
| 14:13.03 | tziOm | any good tutorial on setting up your own debian repo and making custom packages? |
| 14:13.06 | nsadmin | samuderapase, you're running testing/wheezy/7 |
| 14:13.19 | samuderapase | yes..nsadmin |
| 14:13.28 | somiaj | tziOm: check the debian matainers guide for instructions on custom packages |
| 14:13.34 | samuderapase | yesterday I installed XEN |
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| 14:13.38 | samuderapase | in wheezy |
| 14:13.45 | nsadmin | so, try stable/squeeze/6 |
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| 14:13.58 | nsadmin | and/or check out the bts |
| 14:13.59 | tziOm | somiaj: thanks. |
| 14:14.01 | nsadmin | bts |
| 14:14.07 | nsadmin | !bts |
| 14:14.07 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
| 14:14.09 | somiaj | tziOm: as for including them in your custom repo, you may want to start by looking at apt-mirror as a start so you have a mirror of a repo. |
| 14:14.46 | sflemming | somiaj: You can believe me that I tried this http://pastebin.com/fQgMip5b |
| 14:14.46 | samuderapase | owh...amazing |
| 14:14.57 | samuderapase | !bts |
| 14:14.57 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
| 14:15.05 | tziOm | Is there any good reason debian is so far behind on alot of "crucial" packages? thinking iptables, ipset, conntrack, ruby.. yes.. |
| 14:15.41 | somiaj | sflemming: you broke your install so apt-get isn't smart enough to figure it out. so you can try aptitude or use dpkg to manually install/remove the packages that are causing you trouble. Again this is an issue with this unoffical package you installed not debian. (: |
| 14:15.45 | samuderapase | how about wheezy ?? is not stabel?? |
| 14:16.06 | somiaj | tziOm: what do you mean? I think you don't grasp what a frozen stable distrubtion is in debian |
| 14:16.20 | nsadmin | nope |
| 14:16.23 | somiaj | samuderapase: no wheezy is testing and could have known (or unknown) bugs |
| 14:16.40 | tziOm | somiaj: hmm.. |
| 14:16.48 | samuderapase | wew |
| 14:17.00 | sflemming | somiaj: Yes, I know, but I'm really happy that here are at least people that try to help me. When this all does not work I will have to switch ta an other solution. This is really buggy.. never had such a broken default installation. I try with aptitude now |
| 14:17.01 | somiaj | tziOm: why do you think these packages are old? Are you missing a feature in a newer version of the package or worried about security updates? |
| 14:17.02 | tziOm | somiaj: I understand that. But causes frustration at times. |
| 14:17.20 | samuderapase | somiaj: thanks |
| 14:17.25 | samuderapase | nsadmin:thanks |
| 14:17.26 | mparodi | hey guys, I'm trying now to connect one PC to my router. I edited /etc/network/interfaces and I added "auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet dhcp". then I rebooted but while booting it says "No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping." how can I fix that? |
| 14:17.27 | samuderapase | :) |
| 14:17.28 | tziOm | somiaj: both. But missing many features, yes. |
| 14:17.32 | mparodi | then if I do ping 192.168.1.1 it says "network is unreachable" |
| 14:17.39 | mparodi | ifconfig eth0 doesn't shows the IP assigned to this PC so I guess it doesn't even have one |
| 14:17.53 | tziOm | the whole netfilter.org/* packageset is ancient |
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| 14:18.22 | somiaj | tziOm: for the most part unless you have some special circumstance you need bleeding edge development stable packages have all the features many people need. Security is backported via security.debian.org so even though the versions in stable may be older they are all patched against security holes (so security isn't an issue) |
| 14:18.22 | samuderapase | how to use bot in this channel for know all bugs in debian?? |
| 14:18.50 | somiaj | tziOm: in the rare case that people actually need a new feature that wasn't available in the version that got frozen in stable, look into backports. |
| 14:19.09 | somiaj | samuderapase: use bugs.debian.org |
| 14:19.11 | mparodi | hey guys, I'm trying now to connect one PC to my router. I edited /etc/network/interfaces and I added "auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet dhcp". then I rebooted but while booting it says "No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping." how can I fix that? |
| 14:19.11 | mparodi | then if I do ping 192.168.1.1 it says "network is unreachable" |
| 14:19.11 | mparodi | ifconfig eth0 doesn't shows the IP assigned to this PC so I guess it doesn't even have one |
| 14:19.39 | samuderapase | use bugs.debian.org |
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| 14:19.50 | samuderapase | :( |
| 14:19.56 | somiaj | samuderapase: goto the webpage bugs.debian.org in your webbrower |
| 14:20.03 | samuderapase | oke ... |
| 14:20.18 | somiaj | mparodi: it means that the dhcp server is not sending you a request when you ask for one via your eth0 device |
| 14:20.19 | tziOm | somiaj: is for example ruby 1.9.2 and gems 3.x available as backports? |
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| 14:20.53 | mparodi | somiaj, so... where can be the problem? |
| 14:21.05 | mparodi | I'm afraid I don't have experience configuring networks |
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| 14:21.30 | somiaj | tziOm: I don't know, go search backports.debian.org |
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| 14:21.47 | somiaj | mparodi: do you have a dhcp server running on the subnet you have eth0 pluged into |
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| 14:22.01 | somiaj | mparodi: is it pluged into a router or you trying to get dhcp from your isp via some modem |
| 14:22.03 | mparodi | it's a linksys router, somiaj |
| 14:22.32 | somiaj | mparodi: is your ethernet cable good? (do you see the light in the card and/or router for the slot you pluged it into)? |
| 14:22.42 | sflemming | I thank you all for your help, seems to be that proxmox is not the right solution for a productivity virtualization environment. i will switch to something else. tnx |
| 14:23.10 | somiaj | tziOm: ruby1.9? That package seems old, I see a version in oldstable but not one in stable? That could be another issue |
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| 14:23.55 | mparodi | somiaj, that's a good question because the cable is pretty long. I have tried to connect the PC directly to this one using eth0 (with a shorter cable I'm sure is working) but I was impossible too |
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| 14:24.11 | mparodi | I will check the cable now, thanks |
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| 14:25.26 | samuderapase | debian the best of linux |
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| 14:25.28 | samuderapase | :) |
| 14:25.32 | samuderapase | I love debian |
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| 14:26.02 | tziOm | mparodi: echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nfor i in `seq 1 1000`; do sleep 1;echo "64 bytes from $ARGV[1]: icmp_req=$i ttl=64 time=0.161 ms";done' > /bin/ping ; chmod 755 /bin/ping |
| 14:26.07 | dvs | !hug samuderapase |
| 14:26.07 | dpkg | wraps its shiny metal lovin' arms around samuderapase |
| 14:26.28 | mparodi | ohh, the cable is not working! -.- |
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| 14:26.34 | tziOm | mparodi: makes sure your network is allways up! |
| 14:26.39 | samuderapase | :) |
| 14:26.45 | mparodi | anyway, as I said it was impossible to connect them directly using eth0, I will try that again now |
| 14:28.05 | mparodi | ok so the situation is that I have one short cable that is working, 100% sure. the problem is that it's not crossed. and the other computer is old so I'm not sure it'll work at all. is there a way to ask the other card to cross it? or maybe to ask this one to do so? |
| 14:28.19 | somiaj | tziOm: http://packages.qa.debian.org/r/ruby1.9.html -- might start there, it looks like there are reasons why ruby1.9 was removed from debian and ruby1.8 is the default (even in sid it seems). I'm not familary enough with ruby to see why, but you should be able to track down bugreports to see why it was removed/not part of debian. |
| 14:28.56 | somiaj | mparodi: it could be your long cable just has a flaw in it to (most modern routers detect crossover vs straight cables and adjust accordinally) |
| 14:29.09 | tziOm | somiaj: ok, I have installed from source, so no problem for me longer.. but thats why I need to make my own packages and a repo. |
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| 14:29.50 | mparodi | somiaj, no, the long one is not working at all even in this computer, I'm afraid. I don't care now, I just want them connected, I don't need internet on the other computer |
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| 14:30.00 | samuderapase | how to use lynx to get cookies website in debian |
| 14:30.01 | sooley | quick question guys, how to point a directory to another one? |
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| 14:30.08 | tziOm | I'm an old slacker, so building is not uncommon to me, but perhaps smart to make a repo and .debs to keep debian from screwing up my local installs on update? |
| 14:30.16 | sooley | i need to point /var/www/ to another one |
| 14:30.21 | mparodi | I executed "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" here and "I executed "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" in the other one. should I do anything else? somiaj, tziOm |
| 14:30.36 | dvs | sooley: ln |
| 14:30.44 | somiaj | mparodi: if you want to use a static ip you can set that up in your /etc/network/interfaces instead of using dhcp. |
| 14:30.53 | samuderapase | lynx --dump <site> or lynx --cookies <site> |
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| 14:31.04 | tziOm | mparodi: that should work |
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| 14:31.22 | tziOm | as long as its eth0 and they are connected, and no vlans on switch |
| 14:31.32 | sooley | ln: `/var/www/': hard link not allowed for directory |
| 14:31.35 | sooley | dvs ^ |
| 14:31.39 | somiaj | tziOm: well look at the debian matainers guide, with the old cdbs (commond debian build system) or I belive the new debian helper version 7 or greater works as well creating a package from a source tree with automake can be done. |
| 14:32.05 | tziOm | somiaj: cool, I'll go for that, then. |
| 14:32.11 | somiaj | tziOm: as for this custom package, just remove the ruby packages from debian and as long as other things don't depend on it, it shouldn't be an issue with upgrades |
| 14:32.19 | mparodi | ping 192.168.1.3 -> From 192.168.1.101 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 14:32.37 | tziOm | need some custom kernels for different dell poweredges as well, guess it can be places in same repo. |
| 14:32.39 | somiaj | tziOm: if other packages depend on ruby you may have to create some package depends to keep things playing together. |
| 14:32.41 | mparodi | I'm afraid the problem is the other computer has an old network card and the cable is not crossed :| |
| 14:32.51 | dvs | sooley: ln -s |
| 14:32.51 | mparodi | but I'm not sure |
| 14:32.54 | somiaj | tziOm: use make-kpkg for custom kernel packages |
| 14:33.09 | tziOm | that I have done.. |
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| 14:33.36 | samuderapase | ? |
| 14:33.39 | mparodi | oh wait, I did ping 192.168.1.3 but it says "From 192.168.1.101 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable"? uh? o.o |
| 14:33.51 | tziOm | somiaj: and the kernel can just be placed in repo and called kernel-3.0.x-whatever-hardware.deb ? |
| 14:34.38 | somiaj | tziOm: I haven't messed with custom repos. You will probaly need to run some script to add that package to the info so apt can 'see' it. |
| 14:34.49 | mparodi | any idea? |
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| 14:35.15 | tziOm | 101 is your router? |
| 14:35.21 | tziOm | seems you need some net |
| 14:35.31 | tziOm | route add -net 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 |
| 14:35.46 | sooley | sorry to ask again dvs but im having issue, im pointing a dirtectory to another directory, ln -s /var/www/ /opt/lampp/htdocs - would this be correct syntax? as its not working |
| 14:35.49 | mparodi | tziOm, no, it shouldn't be using any router. in any case, it's 192.168.1.1 |
| 14:36.05 | mparodi | [root@localhost:/home/matias]# route add -net 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 [12:35] |
| 14:36.06 | mparodi | [root@localhost:/home/matias] |
| 14:36.15 | mparodi | (nothing at all) |
| 14:36.19 | sooley | sorry to ask again |
| 14:37.03 | tziOm | route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0 |
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| 14:37.31 | mparodi | "SIOCADDRT: File exists" |
| 14:37.40 | tziOm | then you have the route |
| 14:37.45 | tziOm | figure out what 101 is |
| 14:38.03 | jaakkos | oh dog i love those error messages |
| 14:38.09 | jaakkos | also "SIOCADDRT: No such process" |
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| 14:38.27 | mparodi | look, http://paste.kde.org/157370 |
| 14:38.32 | mparodi | it has changed to .2 |
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| 14:38.41 | dvs | sooley: htdocs should not exists |
| 14:38.48 | dvs | as a directory |
| 14:38.50 | tziOm | no, thats your own machine telling you |
| 14:39.02 | mparodi | hm, ok |
| 14:39.14 | mparodi | what can it be? |
| 14:39.15 | tziOm | pastebin ifconfig eth0;route -n on both machines |
| 14:39.31 | somiaj | sooley: why isn't it working? |
| 14:39.41 | sooley | im lost with what you mean man, and i dont know. |
| 14:39.58 | mparodi | http://paste.kde.org/157382 here, tziOm |
| 14:40.02 | sooley | it was working fine before, but after i restarted my server the server things my website is in /var/www/, but its in /opt/lamp/htdocs |
| 14:40.18 | somiaj | sooley: I use ln -fs src dest for links, but are you wanting to make your documentroot /opt/lamp/htdocs instead of /var/www the debian default |
| 14:40.26 | sooley | yes |
| 14:40.29 | tziOm | there you have it"! |
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| 14:40.34 | mparodi | uh? |
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| 14:40.37 | tziOm | can use same network on both interfaces |
| 14:40.38 | somiaj | sooley: to me the correct way to do this is reconfigure apache (or what ever http server) to use the new document root |
| 14:40.44 | tziOm | 101 is probably your wlan router |
| 14:40.52 | somiaj | sooley: using a link isn't the best way (beause some http servers just ignore lnks anyways) |
| 14:40.59 | sooley | yea im using apache, would it be in the apache conf? |
| 14:41.05 | tziOm | so go 192.168.2.0/24 on ethernet lan |
| 14:41.12 | tziOm | and you should be set to go |
| 14:41.40 | somiaj | sooley: correct, you can modify /etc/apache2/sites-avialable/000-default to point at the new document root -- though you may want to parse though the configs (may be other changes you want on your webserver form the default debian configs) |
| 14:41.50 | tziOm | then route add default gw 2.1 (the machine with wlan if) on the onther machine and echo 1 > ip_forward |
| 14:41.50 | mparodi | what do you mean by "go 192.168.2.0/24 on ethernet lan" ? |
| 14:42.22 | tziOm | use 2.2/3 instead of 1.2/3 |
| 14:42.36 | tziOm | or go windows |
| 14:43.06 | mparodi | ok, I will change whatever you think can fix it, the problem is that I don't have idea, almost, about networks |
| 14:43.16 | mparodi | so what's the first step? |
| 14:43.30 | tziOm | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO.html |
| 14:43.34 | sooley | thanks working good |
| 14:43.38 | tziOm | thats the first step. |
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| 14:44.59 | mparodi | it's pretty big to be a "first step" :P tziOm |
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| 14:45.26 | tziOm | machine1 (with wlan) ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0, machine 2: ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.2 netm.. ; route add default gw 192.168.2.1 .. then echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward on machine 1 |
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| 14:47.25 | qdb | i have set vesafb vga=0x317 and then runned fbterm as me then it says cannot has access to something, read man for security , runned it as root , it works, then again runned it as me now it says stdin is not a interactive tty! |
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| 14:48.32 | mparodi | tziOm, you did it! thank you so much! :D |
| 14:48.42 | tziOm | very hard |
| 14:48.44 | tziOm | ;) |
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| 14:49.32 | tziOm | also on machine2: echo -e 'nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4' > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:49.42 | mparodi | wasn't it working just because I was using 192.168.1.x in both wlan and eth0? :S |
| 14:50.13 | tziOm | yes |
| 14:50.20 | cahoot | raven, install alsa-utils |
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| 14:51.26 | mparodi | I did "echo -e 'nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4' > /etc/resolv.conf" but it was working already. what did that? |
| 14:53.31 | raven | cahoot, alsa-utils is installed already |
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| 14:53.57 | qdb | found in fbterm man, vesa mode need root priv. |
| 14:55.58 | boudiccas | is there another film player comparable to VLC please? I've tried dragon player and mplayer but neither adjusts the brightness like vlc does |
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| 14:57.58 | AimHere | There's also xine, but vlc is still better, of course |
| 14:58.22 | boudiccas | k, thanks, i'll have a look at it |
| 14:59.08 | boudiccas | ,versions xine |
| 14:59.08 | judd | No package named 'xine' was found in i386. |
| 14:59.30 | boudiccas | AimHere; it seems that xine isnt available for debian! |
| 14:59.41 | AimHere | What? |
| 14:59.52 | AimHere | It's certainly in sid |
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| 15:00.17 | boudiccas | it must be called something different then |
| 15:00.24 | AimHere | Do an apt-cache search |
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| 15:00.27 | nkuttler | boudiccas: mplayer can apply multiple output filters etc.. personally i prefer to adjust the screen |
| 15:00.31 | AimHere | Maybe the package name isn't 'xine' |
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| 15:01.36 | boudiccas | nkuttler; my monitor is not adjustable for brightness, and i've tried adjusting the brightness of mplayer and it made no difference to the brightness of the film |
| 15:01.36 | SattamJH | hello there |
| 15:01.54 | SattamJH | I have a question please |
| 15:01.59 | boudiccas | !ask |
| 15:02.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 15:02.50 | nkuttler | boudiccas: works for me |
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| 15:06.02 | exfee | HEI ALL |
| 15:06.05 | exfee | HOW ARE YOU |
| 15:06.12 | exfee | I AM FROM INDONESIA |
| 15:06.24 | nsadmin | YOUR caps LOCK is STUCK |
| 15:06.27 | boudiccas | SattamJH; what is your question? |
| 15:07.16 | exfee | do you know |
| 15:07.29 | exfee | jones semedeegard |
| 15:08.01 | exfee | ?? |
| 15:08.16 | nkuttler | exfee: this is a technical support channel for debian. do you have any debian questions? |
| 15:08.30 | exfee | ooo |
| 15:08.33 | exfee | sorry ! |
| 15:08.47 | exfee | l have some question |
| 15:09.01 | exfee | how to upgrade debian squeeze to qheezy |
| 15:09.12 | exfee | wheezy |
| 15:09.15 | nkuttler | exfee: why do you want to do that? |
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| 15:09.38 | exfee | l want to try ! |
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| 15:09.47 | nkuttler | exfee: /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 15:09.57 | exfee | yes, |
| 15:10.04 | exfee | oke thankyou |
| 15:10.19 | qdb | jelly-home, sisfb do not work for this model, vesafb works, but fb term works with vesa only as root |
| 15:10.19 | exfee | how to make my partition automount |
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| 15:10.40 | SattamJH | I have broadband connection and its working properly but I want to share it with other machines , the problem is the eth0 take higher order and I can not open websites, I searched about it and I found some guides about iptables , so who could help me to solve it, it is usb connection |
| 15:10.53 | nkuttler | exfee: /msg dpkg automount |
| 15:10.58 | nsadmin | I don't think there's a debian named queasy... |
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| 15:11.29 | exfee | what it is "/msg" ? |
| 15:11.47 | nkuttler | exfee: you type that in your irc client and the bot will tell you what you need to know |
| 15:12.13 | SattamJH | any 1 an help |
| 15:12.20 | SattamJH | can* |
| 15:12.33 | nkuttler | !anyone |
| 15:12.33 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 15:12.44 | samuderapase | try run ../msg dpkg wheezy |
| 15:12.51 | samuderapase | in channel |
| 15:13.18 | samuderapase | if you used system debian wheezy or squeeze |
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| 15:17.36 | samuderapase | Domain-0 0 692 4 r----- 2109.6 |
| 15:17.52 | samuderapase | I used XEN in debian wheezy |
| 15:18.06 | nsadmin | exfee, /help msg |
| 15:18.33 | samuderapase | how the opinions of my friends?? |
| 15:19.00 | nkuttler | samuderapase: what is your native language? |
| 15:19.57 | samuderapase | I use xen -virtual machine in my debian.... |
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| 15:20.49 | samuderapase | how the opinions of my friends..? about XEN in mydebian |
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| 15:21.58 | nkuttler | samuderapase: we don't know your friends.. |
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| 15:33.47 | qdb | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-customizing.en.html "The kbd and console-tools packages support this, edit /etc/kbd/config or /etc/console-tools/config files. " i have edited /etc/kbd/config , how to apply it? |
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| 15:36.25 | boudiccas | qdb; have you tried logging out and then logging back in again? |
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| 15:36.34 | qdb | no |
| 15:36.38 | qdb | ok i ll try |
| 15:38.00 | boudiccas | ah well, back to the film |
| 15:38.39 | qdb | my problem is not fixed. i tried to write there console font = latCyrJr-16 , that name i have seen in dpkg -L fonty-rg, but may be it cannot be used? |
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| 15:49.42 | mparodi | aren't these things equivalents? http://paste.kde.org/157418 |
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| 15:50.34 | mparodi | it's working if I execute the first two lines but no if I try to do it automatically using /etc/network/interfaces and reboot the system |
| 15:50.55 | mparodi | what's the difference? |
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| 16:02.44 | blubberdiblub | mparodi, does the second thing work if you do ifup eth0 manually? if so, is the module for the nic already loaded when the init script tries to up the interface? |
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| 16:05.48 | mparodi | ifup eth0 doesn't work neither, blubberdiblub |
| 16:06.36 | blubberdiblub | mparodi, what's the error message, if any? |
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| 16:08.17 | mparodi | blubberdiblub, no error. I know it doesn't work just because ping 192.168.2.2 from this computer doesn't work |
| 16:08.49 | mparodi | even though ifconfig eth0 from the other computer says its IP is 192.168.2.2 |
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| 16:14.45 | nkuttler | mparodi: output of iconfig, relevant lines in dmesg etc.. |
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| 16:20.34 | mparodi | oh, never mind! it's working now. the problem is that when I reboot the other computer I need to execute "ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" here again :) |
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| 16:25.31 | jhutchins_lt | !networking |
| 16:25.32 | dpkg | For basic networking, "man interfaces", see http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration and http://www.debian-administration.org/article/An_introduction_to_Debian_networking_setup . Also ask me about <interfaces>. |
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| 16:30.56 | tobi_ | hallo, I have a problem with my (IDE) DVD drive and I'm running out of pointers... It is not detected by the kernel (nothing in dmesg, no device file) , however the BIOS does detect it. A harddrive connected to the same IDE channel comes up however. The mainboard is a ASROck N68C-S UCC using a nForce 630a chipset. The kernel loads pata_amd. I also tried with other CDROM drives without any luck. Under WinXP the setup is working. Any hints where to |
| 16:30.58 | qdb | problem is solved. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/text-only-system-how-to-change-console-font-770688/ |
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| 16:32.08 | jhutchins | tobi_: Is it detected if you have a disk in it? |
| 16:32.23 | tobi_ | no, does not matter if disk in or not |
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| 16:35.22 | tobi_ | I pasted dmesg at http://pastebin.com/99sSKaga |
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| 16:37.33 | tobi_ | note: at ~3.8s the USB->IDE Adapter is detected with DVD drive attached. |
| 16:39.33 | tobi_ | Other thing I tried: Boot only with the DVD-drive (removed the IDE harddrive). BTW, the DVD is a BENQ |
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| 16:39.56 | Amarande | !versions nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 16:40.20 | boudiccas | Amarande; use .......... ,versions |
| 16:40.26 | Amarande | ,versions nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 16:40.28 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; squeeze-backports/non-free: 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 290.10-1; wheezy/non-free: 290.10-1 |
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| 16:40.42 | Amarande | oh yay backport |
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| 16:46.38 | resc_user_2664 | I installed Windows after Debian, so now grub is gone. I am currently in Rescatux using a live CD. It got a rescue application for these kind of situations but it fails. |
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| 16:46.50 | resc_user_2664 | If anyone is interested I could pastebin the logfile of this application |
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| 16:47.40 | resc_user_2664 | Here it comes anyway> http://pastebin.com/3148zSte |
| 16:48.08 | resc_user_2664 | This application\s purpose is to restore grub for me |
| 16:48.09 | converge | -- |
| 16:48.10 | converge | im looking for a libvirt tutorial for debian but if its a generic linux tutorial is fine too. i need one that cover how to create and setup a vm just using console, because im on a server. some sugestion ? |
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| 16:50.30 | tobi_ | resc_user_2644: I'd recommend to boot with the debian installer in rescue mode and then issue "grub-install" |
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| 16:51.28 | resc_user_2664 | tobi_, ok thanks! ill try that |
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| 16:53.58 | Imran-UK | debian squeeze - is it possible to make middle-click paste output at the where the cursor is in the app (eg. gedit) rather than under the mouse-pointer? |
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| 16:55.21 | tobi_ | resc_user_2664: check if you live cd has this command as well |
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| 16:56.32 | Beterra | Imran-UK, my 2 cents on that; keyboard | application shortcuts |
| 16:57.32 | Beterra | Imran-UK, not sure it would work for mouse too, though. but explore that option |
| 16:58.13 | silvertip257 | Imran-UK: isn't that the default? Depends on your WM/DE though. With gnome2 and xfce it works (I don't use kde much). |
| 16:58.30 | silvertip257 | paste via middle click after highlighting text |
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| 16:59.06 | Imran-UK | Beterra, thanks - i'm also installing the gpointing package, lets see |
| 16:59.58 | Imran-UK | silvertip257, it is. gnome 2.x here. but sometimes the gedit cursor is not where the mouse pointer is. same for other apps |
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| 17:00.28 | Beterra | as silvertip257 pointed out, it depends on the desktop environment, you have for sure some configuration for those |
| 17:00.30 | silvertip257 | oh right ... yeah |
| 17:00.37 | Imran-UK | to me, it would be more sensible for the paste to start at where the cursor is in the app |
| 17:01.03 | silvertip257 | not sure how you would set it up that way ... I just put my mouse where I want to paste |
| 17:01.28 | tobi_ | For my DVD drive problem, I'll try to upgrade my BIOS -- I dont think this will solve it but I'Il give it a try |
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| 17:04.42 | Guest21585 | how i can change my kernel header? |
| 17:04.59 | stockholm | Guest21585: just one? |
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| 17:05.46 | Guest21585 | i need 2.6.38.2-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 |
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| 17:06.15 | Guest21585 | but in lib/modules, i have 2.6.32.5-amd64 |
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| 17:06.39 | iderik | How do I enter rescue mode with Debian live USB? The guide says "rescue" at boot prompt should do it, but gives me an error: "That kernel image does not exists". I am trying to restore my grub after windows installtion. |
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| 17:11.30 | sickgut | hello ppl, i am wanting to know how to make a system wide change to make my usb sound adaptor the default alsa sound device, rather than my onboard via AD988xx sound, i have disabled the onboard sound device in the bios but debian keeps picking it up still |
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| 17:12.17 | sickgut | i c ant seem to get mplayer etc and games to use the usb sound device |
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| 17:14.03 | Beterra | On Debian Wheezy, trying to do the trick for auto-login by replacing tty6 on /etc/inittab to "6:23:respawn:/sbin/rungetty tty6 --autologin Beterra" and creating a ~/.bash_login with startx instruction. Doesn't work. Not having by defaulkt .bach_login, nor .bash_profile or .bashrc, i'm not sure if the problem resides there. any suggestion i'll appreciate. |
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| 17:14.41 | Amarande | hmmmm |
| 17:14.52 | tobi_ | nope, bios update did not help.. |
| 17:14.53 | Amarande | when you alt-click in a window and it moves the window: is that wine behaviour or GNOME/WM behaviour? |
| 17:15.01 | Amarande | ok, it's WM |
| 17:15.05 | Amarande | hmmmm |
| 17:15.08 | iderik | How do I enter rescue mode with Debian live USB? The guide says "rescue" at boot prompt should do it, but gives me an error: "That kernel image does not exists". I am trying to restore my grub after windows installtion. |
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| 17:16.51 | cahoot | iderik, booting 'normally' from the usb works? |
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| 17:18.09 | iderik | cahoot: it starts the debian installer automaticly. i think my "boot" thing is Unetbootin's own thing |
| 17:18.54 | cahoot | sorry lussekattdags |
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| 17:19.24 | iderik | cahoot: it there some way to boot in to my debian via the boot prompt? I cant remember what command that lilo/grub used and what the name of the kernel image is |
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| 17:20.23 | tobi_ | iderik: did you try to boot not in rescue mode? you can also use the normal installer... |
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| 17:21.11 | iderik | tobi_: it doesnt boot at all, it just gives me the installer for debian |
| 17:21.21 | tobi_ | the menu? |
| 17:21.28 | iderik | tobi_: and i cant even access the rescue mode |
| 17:21.39 | iderik | yes |
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| 17:22.11 | tobi_ | strange... I just used the installer an hour ago, actual testing image |
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| 17:23.09 | iderik | Starts computer -> Select to boot the USB with debian -> "Boot:" prompt -> Unetbootin menu -> Installer menu |
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| 17:23.38 | iderik | boot prompt and unetbootin just swishes by and executes some command automaticly after 3 seconds |
| 17:23.54 | tobi_ | could you have some weird BIOS option regarding usb storage devices? |
| 17:24.42 | iderik | tobi_: not sure what you mean with that, but it always worked fine before with different linux dists on usb |
| 17:25.02 | tobi_ | BTw, what is unetbootin |
| 17:25.05 | iderik | tobi_: i actually think most if default in BIOS but the boot order |
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| 17:25.33 | tobi_ | boot order should not be a problem as all recent BIOS have a nice bootmanager to select the right device |
| 17:25.45 | iderik | Unetbootin is a program that helps you to burn linux to USB stick. So I think its using its own boot manager for the USB |
| 17:25.54 | tobi_ | k |
| 17:26.01 | tobi_ | you are in the live CD? |
| 17:26.04 | iderik | tobi_: yes, the computer is very new |
| 17:26.13 | tobi_ | I would use dd for generating the bootable stick |
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| 17:26.51 | tobi_ | download the image from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 17:27.04 | tobi_ | depending if you go for 64 bit or 32 bits.... |
| 17:27.17 | tobi_ | .. if you went .. |
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| 17:28.21 | tobi_ | and for example for 64 bits dd if=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso of=<your-usb-drive-device> |
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| 17:29.55 | tobi_ | (of course you know that the data on the memory stick is deleted....) |
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| 17:30.48 | tobi_ | the live cd does not have grub-installer? |
| 17:30.57 | babilen | tobi_: fwiw, you can also use cat or cp |
| 17:31.27 | dwfreed | babilen: you could, but dd is much better at ensuring everything gets to the right place |
| 17:31.38 | babilen | dwfreed: How so? |
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| 17:32.06 | tobi_ | NB: about the right place: dd to (for example) sdc, not sdc1 |
| 17:33.05 | tobi_ | I think cat or cp is fine as well -- however I *know* dd works, for cp and cat I *guess* it works |
| 17:33.42 | dwfreed | babilen: dd is a little bit more intelligent about opening things, and has much more options for tuning the write so it doesn't barf all over your drive (usually not needed, but a proper bs= line can speed up a write) |
| 17:34.21 | babilen | tobi_: cat is the recommended tool and all three work. Using dd instead of cp doesn't make sense if you don't specify block sizes or start blocks as it is essentially the same thing. dd has just a more awkward syntax. |
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| 17:34.48 | Iridos | which is, of course, a good thing |
| 17:34.50 | Iridos | :D |
| 17:35.17 | babilen | dwfreed: cp finds blocksizes by itself -- I see no reason whatsoever to use dd if you just want to copy data. But everyone can use what (s)he is most comfortable with. |
| 17:35.33 | babilen | s/finds/tunes |
| 17:35.51 | babilen | Anyway, the result of all three should be a bootable usb stick. |
| 17:36.25 | Amarande | in fact, I think the most common thing I personally still use dd for is wiping hard drives |
| 17:36.36 | Amarande | usually overwriting them with /dev/zero or /dev/urandom in order to ensure a clean slate |
| 17:36.49 | claw | how to find out which device this is ? : ata8.01: failed command: READ DMA EXT |
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| 17:48.15 | r4co0n | Hello. I got a rather fresh install of squeeze, with oldgnome, on my netbook, a fujitsu m2010. now i am trying to persuade the sound coming through my speakers, failing at that, Im here to ask for help, which I hereby do. gnome-sound-recorder shows no amplitude when recording either, if that is of help. |
| 17:49.01 | cahoot | claw, why not simply run smartctl on your drives? |
| 17:49.21 | claw | cahoot, beacause smartctl show no errors |
| 17:49.58 | dwfreed | r4co0n: open a terminal window and run alsamixer; inside alsamixer, make sure your volumes are turned up and not muted |
| 17:50.10 | somiaj | r4co0n: does the sound work and you the mic doesn't or just no sound at all? have you tried things in '/msg dpkg alsa-checklist' |
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| 17:53.04 | garo | If you select 'DNS server' in the installation of squeeze, which dnsserver do you get ? |
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| 17:53.22 | r4co0n | dwfreed, nice, speakers are now working. i just wonder why they came muted, dont think I edited that accidently somehow. |
| 17:53.35 | r4co0n | talking of alsamixer |
| 17:54.03 | cahoot | alsa-utils should have taken care of that |
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| 17:54.41 | cahoot | i e unmuting and setting sane levels |
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| 17:55.34 | rypervenche | garo: bind0 |
| 17:55.38 | rypervenche | garo: bind9, sorry |
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| 17:55.55 | rypervenche | garo: You can run "tasksel" as root to get the list again. |
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| 17:56.36 | r4co0n | cahoot, would this be, in your opinion, a valid cause for a bug-report against alsa-utils? |
| 17:57.17 | cahoot | no idea - run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 and see what happends |
| 17:57.37 | cahoot | (presuming your default card is card0) |
| 17:57.52 | Morgawr | question: I'm currently running a Debian machine inside a Windows VM (VMWare), I need to share files from the Debian machine with the outside OS. I tried using samba (I already have a network in my windows machine set up with shared folders), however I can't find a way to connect to my windows network... How do I do that? |
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| 17:58.09 | sickgut | how do i set my usb sound device as the standard alsa device? |
| 17:58.14 | Morgawr | it finds the network (MORGAWR-PC) but when I connect it gives me problems mounting it or something like that |
| 17:58.28 | sickgut | i have internal onboard sound and i disabled in bios but it still gets picked up |
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| 17:59.42 | doorp | I've downloaded netinst's image and wrote it to a flash drive. I booted from it and started the installation... the install says it fails to recognize/find my CD for further drivers... any hint what I should do now? |
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| 18:00.38 | r4co0n | an alsa-utils reset doesnt reset i/o volume levels |
| 18:01.00 | r4co0n | at least it didnt for me right now |
| 18:01.42 | r4co0n | so the question is again: who does(set volume levels at installation time) |
| 18:02.05 | cahoot | sickgut, you can give the relevant ala-module index 0 |
| 18:02.11 | cahoot | alsa-module |
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| 18:03.23 | cahoot | sickgut, like add a file containing the line: options snd-usb-audio index=0 |
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| 18:03.37 | sickgut | where do i add this? |
| 18:03.41 | sickgut | thanks for help btw |
| 18:04.12 | cahoot | sickgut, IIRC in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa<something> |
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| 18:04.53 | cahoot | sickgut, might as well give the onboard cards module index -1 or so |
| 18:05.11 | sickgut | thanks i found the dir |
| 18:05.35 | sickgut | there is a blacklist there too maybe i can add the onboard on to that if i cant get it to ignore it other way |
| 18:05.52 | cahoot | sickgut, the vagueness is because it's been a while and I'm not on a linux system atm |
| 18:06.16 | sickgut | no its cool |
| 18:06.23 | cahoot | not sure blacklisting will suffice |
| 18:06.32 | sickgut | really there is a alsa-base file there it contains the index numbers |
| 18:06.34 | cahoot | but won't hurt |
| 18:06.36 | sickgut | this will be easy |
| 18:06.56 | sickgut | thanks for your help i have everything i need now ill change usb sound from index -2 to 0 |
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| 18:07.02 | sickgut | etc |
| 18:07.11 | cahoot | the just alsa force-reload to test |
| 18:07.14 | Morgawr | okay, I accidentally screwed up and removed /etc/samba. now when I try to re-install samba using apt-get install samba (and all it related tools) dpkg throws errors and can't install it. What do I do to fix the problem? I was hoping for a command that fixes dependencies... |
| 18:07.16 | rypervenche | Morgawr: You shouldn't need samba. I just use folders. |
| 18:07.30 | Morgawr | rypervenche: how am I supposed to connect to a shared folder? I don't really know |
| 18:07.57 | rypervenche | Morgawr: I believe that virtualbox has the information on their website. |
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| 18:08.48 | cahoot | sickgut, one point in using a custom file is it will survive updates |
| 18:09.00 | sickgut | cool |
| 18:09.02 | sickgut | yeah |
| 18:09.13 | Morgawr | rypervenche: wait.. I use VMWare and... now that you mention it I realized there is a "share folder" command... gonna try that one. Wow I can't believe I never noticed that before |
| 18:09.18 | r4co0n | Morgawr, try "aptitude reinstall samba" |
| 18:09.28 | Morgawr | r4co0n: going to try that thanks |
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| 18:10.45 | Morgawr | rypervenche: but where do those shared folder appear on my debian OS? Are they a mount or something? |
| 18:11.01 | garo | rypervenche: thanks |
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| 18:14.40 | d33p3ddy | i've got a question which may seem a bit lame, but how to make debian start a script each time pc boots? |
| 18:14.46 | d33p3ddy | before login |
| 18:14.57 | valdyn | d33p3ddy: see /etc/rc.local |
| 18:15.18 | valdyn | d33p3ddy: or what is that script supposed to do? |
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| 18:15.38 | d33p3ddy | mount drives and start X |
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| 18:15.54 | valdyn | d33p3ddy: you should use /etc/fstab |
| 18:16.08 | somiaj | d33p3ddy: you can write your own init script, check /etc/init.d/skeleton, /etc/init.d/README and then man update-rc.d |
| 18:16.10 | valdyn | d33p3ddy: and for X you should just install gdm or gdm3 |
| 18:16.18 | somiaj | d33p3ddy: if you want to start x, you should just use a display manager |
| 18:16.19 | lstarnes | or another display manager |
| 18:16.23 | valdyn | d33p3ddy: reinventing the wheel is not useful |
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| 18:16.48 | d33p3ddy | thanks al lot |
| 18:18.09 | somiaj | d33p3ddy: for mounting drives/partitions use /etc/fstab |
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| 18:24.24 | bmomjian | How do I get the source for the 'calendar' binary? |
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| 18:25.46 | nkuttler | bmomjian: apt-get source package |
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| 18:26.08 | bmomjian | but there is no 'calendar' package |
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| 18:26.15 | nkuttler | !tell bmomjian about search |
| 18:27.53 | bmomjian | I did the search but can't find which entry is /usr/bin/calendar |
| 18:28.03 | valdyn | !read |
| 18:28.04 | dpkg | read is probably what no one does these days, especially ex-redhat users who expect EVERYTHING to appear infront of them without fuss. or what you must do in order to learn. 'man <something>', 'apropos <something>', or check out the files in /usr/share/doc/<PACKAGE> |
| 18:28.07 | valdyn | bmomjian: ^^ |
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| 18:28.24 | Amarande | I think he may be trying to figure out which package contains a particular file |
| 18:28.25 | nkuttler | bmomjian: read the msg the bot sent you |
| 18:29.03 | nkuttler | bmomjian: or.. define "the search" |
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| 18:29.28 | bmomjian | Ah, yep, I see it now from the bot; I needed dpkg -S, thanks |
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| 18:31.27 | KiiK | apt-get always pop-up the previous failed installaion, how can i stop it |
| 18:31.47 | nkuttler | !tell KiiK about errors |
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| 18:33.05 | KiiK | no errors, just don't want to see it again.. |
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| 18:33.28 | KiiK | eg. install mysql and failed.... eachtime I use apt-get install..... it going to install mysql |
| 18:33.54 | nkuttler | KiiK: please read the msg the bot sent you |
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| 18:38.13 | Sivik | anyone here ever set up a pptpd server and got a computer to connect? I keep getting a fail when trying to register the computer |
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| 18:41.07 | Guest21585 | E: Impossibile impostare il blocco /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 18:41.10 | Guest21585 | :( |
| 18:41.29 | doorp | I've downloaded a netinst image and wrote it to a flash drive. I booted from it and started the installation... the install says it fails to recognize/find my CD for further drivers... any hint what I should do now? |
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| 18:44.30 | tux0 | hello, sid (unstable), `man 8 mount' and http://manpages.debian.net/ (unstable (sid) man page) do not match e.g. -t, --types is in the local `man 8 mount' but not on the www is this just because of how the www pages for processed/formatted or are they not in sync with sid/unstable? |
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| 18:45.07 | nkuttler | tux0: i'd assume the stable man pages are online |
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| 18:45.55 | tux0 | nkuttler well it allows you to search lenny squeeze stable testing unstable |
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| 18:46.33 | nkuttler | tux0: i see. yeah, could be out of sync i guess |
| 18:47.20 | bmomjian | What does it mean when I get this error trying to download a Debian source package? http://pastebin.com/mGkdDaUw |
| 18:47.52 | lduros | hello I'm having issues with debian and acpi etc, I'm trying to edit /etc/default/grub and add acpi=off or similar. But the only way I can get access to my partition currently is to boot with archlinux and then mount the partition, I can edit the file, but then I need to run update-grub? Correct? how can I do something similar but not running that instance of debian? |
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| 18:50.39 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.54 | berserkr | bmomjian: try with sudo |
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| 18:52.41 | nkuttler | bmomjian: hmmmmm... touch that file? |
| 18:53.24 | blubberdiblub | maybe apt-get update, to get that file into a sane state |
| 18:53.53 | nkuttler | sounds like a good idea |
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| 18:56.51 | fragrant | Hi, How can i convert a .mp4 file to .mp3 file ? |
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| 18:58.03 | nkuttler | fragrant: why do you want to do that? |
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| 18:58.19 | fragrant | I need the .mp3 audio only. |
| 18:58.46 | nkuttler | !tell fragrant about mp4 |
| 18:59.04 | nkuttler | fragrant: decode to wav, encode to mp3. also /msg dpkg lame |
| 18:59.06 | somiaj | fragrant: use a player of some sort to write the .mp4 to an uncompressed wave, then use an mp3 encoder (like lame) to encode the .wav into .mp3 -- though you do have to recompress the audio and can loose some quality. |
| 18:59.09 | sussudio | lossy transcoding is bad, mkay. |
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| 18:59.22 | nkuttler | sure it's bad.. but he wants it |
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| 18:59.43 | psusi | can someone help me understand why the lvm2 package does not contain a .symbols file for liblvm2app and liblvm2cmd? |
| 19:00.10 | somiaj | I think if the audio track in the .mp4 container is already .mp3 you can dump it directally, but in my experince ripping the audio track from a video required encoding the wav afterwards. |
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| 19:00.57 | bmomjian | I am running as root and don't know what file to touch; maybe the package name is wrong? Do I need a version number on the source download? |
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| 19:01.09 | nkuttler | bmomjian: apt-get update |
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| 19:01.37 | bmomjian | ok, doing that now |
| 19:01.50 | bmomjian | wow, cool, worked! Thanks |
| 19:02.10 | fragrant | Just post the command to convert from .mp4 to .mp3 . |
| 19:02.40 | sussudio | ... |
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| 19:03.26 | nkuttler | fragrant: you read what the bot told you, right? |
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| 19:05.20 | fragrant | This didn't work. ffmpeg -i $name.m4a -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128 -ac 2 $name.mp3 |
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| 19:06.52 | somiaj | fragrant: mplayer -ao pcm:file=foo.wav mp4file will output the audio into a wav file you can then encode into what ever format you want (I prefer ogg myself). |
| 19:07.14 | somiaj | fragrant: note you can use mplayer to dump the audio portion, but in many cases the dump doesn't give you something playable. |
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| 19:09.56 | hid3 | Good evening everyone. Is there any way to assign all crontab jobs to be run on a specific CPU only? Maybe I should start cron with taskset? E.g. taskset -c 0 /usr/bin/cron ? |
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| 19:13.48 | meLon | Is there a way I can print my local ssh fingerprint? |
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| 19:16.08 | blubberdiblub | meLon, "ssh-keygen -l" or "ssh-keygen -l -f your_public_key_file" |
| 19:17.09 | somiaj | hid3: why would you want to limit what cpu all cron jobs (or even a paticular) one use? |
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| 19:22.28 | hid3 | somiaj: I have one machine which collects and compresses netflows. It's a really CPU consuming application. Then at nighttime some cron jobs start to make some traffic accounting and statistics from the flow files. The jobs run for 2-3 hours. During that time my netflow collector looses flows, due to too busy CPU |
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| 19:22.40 | hid3 | so I limited netflow collectors to 4-7 cpu |
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| 19:22.53 | hid3 | now I want to limit cron jobs to 0-3 cpu's |
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| 19:26.00 | somiaj | hid3: I don't know a good way to limit all cronjobs, though its probabaly only a few you have to actually care about, so just change your statistics script to only use certain cpu's |
| 19:27.28 | hid3 | yeah, that's what I actually did now |
| 19:27.32 | blubberdiblub | hid3: if it's really just a few cronjobs, you could also put taskset into the crontab before each command to run |
| 19:27.52 | hid3 | yeah, ^ |
| 19:28.51 | somiaj | hid3: you could probabaly modify the cron /etc/init.d/ service script, though I'm unsure if you limit cron to 0-3 cpu for instance that any process it spawns will follow the same limitation |
| 19:29.10 | somiaj | hid3: you may find that for the 'all' case you will have to patch the cron code for how it launches the scripts. |
| 19:29.15 | hid3 | still, it might be worth a try |
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| 19:29.35 | hid3 | I won't bother patching it |
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| 19:31.41 | somiaj | hid3: one simple test could be launch cron with the tastset cpu limitation, then run a cron job every 30 seconds that outputs what cpu it ran on to a text file. See if it keeps you limited to the same ones that cron is limited to. |
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| 19:32.02 | lduros | hello, in order for my laptop to work I had to do acpi=off as an option in grub. But I read it can cause the fans not to run when it gets hot. I tried instead to use "noapic nolapic" apic stands for advanced programmable interrupt controller -- Is there any risk for the hardware to have these two options? |
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| 19:44.06 | lduros | i notice my laptop is much hotter when using debian than windows, hence why I ask with noapic nolapic, but isn't it acpi that should impact fans, and not apic? |
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| 19:58.53 | unkmar | ok, my google fu is apparently lacking. |
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| 19:59.24 | unkmar | I have gnome 2.30.x on a laptop and the current lid setting while on AC is not what I want. |
| 19:59.52 | unkmar | The GUI does not provide the "nothing" setting... |
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| 20:01.07 | unkmar | I have attempted the gconftool-2 setting found while using google and that has not worked. Am I required to logout and back in or restart for the effect? |
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| 20:02.30 | unkmar | I have attempted the command both as my user and as root. Again, not working. It still disables my screen. |
| 20:03.05 | unkmar | I am connecting the laptop to a TV via HDMI and have an external USB Keyboard and Mouse for comfort. |
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| 20:06.53 | Iridos | if it's really gnome doing that, perhaps you should consider not using gnome |
| 20:07.27 | Iridos | what is happening when you close the lid? |
| 20:08.00 | unkmar | changes displays in what FEELS like a random process. Sometimes I will get the TV like I want. but not always. |
| 20:08.18 | unkmar | reopening the lid again messes with the settings. |
| 20:08.42 | unkmar | Sometimes it appears to just blank the screen all together. |
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| 20:10.38 | unkmar | and what other than gnome would be monitoring the lid status? |
| 20:11.52 | Iridos | well, what used to be hal, then devicekit and is now apparently part of udev |
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| 20:12.32 | Iridos | that'll be responsible for detecting the changes anyway |
| 20:13.54 | valdyn | unkmar: acpi, see /etc/acpi/ for the scripts |
| 20:14.40 | unkmar | yeah, well, I issued mv lid.sh to lid.sh.bak to neuter those and things would still happen. or whatever the exact filenames were. |
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| 20:16.09 | Iridos | you could look at dmesg after a lid close, perhaps that gives a hint what's happening |
| 20:16.26 | unkmar | Iridos: thank you. will do that next. |
| 20:16.30 | valdyn | unkmar: see also /etc/acpi/actions/*lid* |
| 20:17.25 | Iridos | there should also be lid-connected files in /proc or /sys |
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| 20:25.46 | Iridos | hard to say if they have anything useful, being on a desktop myself |
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| 20:27.19 | v116v | Hello all |
| 20:27.25 | v116v | I am spanish |
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| 20:27.37 | v116v | I need help with tightvncserver |
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| 20:28.19 | v116v | i dont can rule it daemon |
| 20:28.32 | v116v | sorry for my engish |
| 20:28.43 | daemon | blinks |
| 20:28.53 | v116v | daemon blinks? |
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| 20:29.24 | v116v | daemon: hello? |
| 20:30.50 | daemonkeeper | keeps his daemons |
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| 20:32.23 | TakamachiFeito | So I got exim4 installed on 2 machines on my LAN. How do I set it up so I can send message from one to the other? |
| 20:32.31 | TakamachiFeito | 'root@Kitago:~# mail root@gensokyo.lan' and typing a message doesn't work. |
| 20:32.42 | unkmar | nothing appears in dmesg |
| 20:32.51 | anno_ | what is old stable called, like do people still use Lenny ? |
| 20:33.13 | ompaul | anno_: it would be unlikely that someone installs it these days |
| 20:33.26 | TakamachiFeito | 'mail' on Gensokyo says: 'No mail for root' |
| 20:33.35 | Iridos | dpkg, tell anno_ about oldstable |
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| 20:34.15 | anno_ | tell me please do |
| 20:34.37 | Iridos | you'd need an MX record on your local DNS that tells the machine is handling mail? |
| 20:34.42 | anno_ | I fear the new gnome thats why I ask |
| 20:34.43 | Iridos | anno_, he did, in a private message |
| 20:35.18 | Iridos | anno_, so you're still on lenny? what then is your actual question? |
| 20:35.32 | TakamachiFeito | Iridos: I can an MX record to my router, but I thought it defaulted to the A or AAAA record if MX was not available? |
| 20:35.53 | Iridos | v116v, ask a concrete question about what your problem is |
| 20:36.09 | unkmar | ok... New question. cause I am tired of fighting it the right way. |
| 20:36.26 | petemc | TakamachiFeito: do you have a dns server that has an A record for gensokyo.lan ? |
| 20:36.26 | Iridos | TakamachiFeito, dunno... I never tried to do that inside a separate LAN |
| 20:36.31 | v116v | Iridos: Hello, i need tightvncserver rule daemon in squeeze |
| 20:36.32 | unkmar | How do I completely disable ACPI without losing the ability to read the battery status? |
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| 20:36.56 | v116v | Iridos: Sorry for my english, i am spanish |
| 20:37.04 | anno_ | Iridos: I want to know, how long I will have after squeeze becomes old news |
| 20:37.36 | TakamachiFeito | petemc: yeay, there are A records for both machines |
| 20:37.43 | anno_ | Before I will be forced to learn Xfce rather than be obligated to learn the gnome 3 |
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| 20:37.54 | valdyn | Iridos: an MX record is not required |
| 20:37.58 | Iridos | anno_, there is one year of security updates, after that the last stable is not officially supported anymore |
| 20:38.17 | anno_ | thanks...Iridos |
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| 20:38.35 | petemc | TakamachiFeito: exim -d -bt foo@gensokyo.lan |
| 20:38.45 | petemc | pastebin the output of that |
| 20:38.51 | anno_ | I am an ex windows user btw who is still na linux newbie |
| 20:38.59 | anno_ | a* |
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| 20:43.10 | TakamachiFeito | http://pastebin.com/3gxxYf88 |
| 20:44.01 | valdyn | foo@gensokyo.lan is undeliverable: Unrouteable address |
| 20:44.12 | valdyn | i doubt it can get any more obvious |
| 20:44.16 | valdyn | TakamachiFeito: ^^ |
| 20:44.22 | Firztspawn | anno_ there are other wm besides gnome |
| 20:44.27 | Firztspawn | many others |
| 20:44.43 | petemc | TakamachiFeito: that machine wants to deliver mail for gensokyo.lan locally |
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| 20:45.01 | TakamachiFeito | valdyn: yet i can ping it. and it's resolved from my router, not /etc/hosts |
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| 20:45.05 | Firztspawn | lxde (based on openbox) xfce, fluxbox, openbox etc etc |
| 20:45.11 | r4co0n | doorp, i think you should verify the image didnt break on transmission, e.g. redownload, verify checksum, re-dd the flash drive. It could still be something else, but I know th |
| 20:45.24 | anno_ | yes Firztspawn, but I am trying to learn Xfce on another laptop |
| 20:45.33 | r4co0n | sry, failpost, fell asleep 2h ago or stm |
| 20:45.37 | valdyn | TakamachiFeito: i think your exim is configured to deliver local mail only |
| 20:45.39 | anno_ | fluxbox is too lean for me |
| 20:45.55 | Firztspawn | try lxde (which I use) |
| 20:46.07 | Firztspawn | and then add apps as required |
| 20:46.08 | anno_ | lxde i am trying too |
| 20:46.20 | anno_ | mintdebian version |
| 20:46.21 | unkmar | it is truely gnome or gdm3 doing this to me. |
| 20:46.21 | Firztspawn | Im loving lxde |
| 20:46.51 | TakamachiFeito | I never used exim before and it is its default debian configuration. what do i need to change to deliver mail not locally? e.g. with SMTP to port 25 or whatever |
| 20:46.55 | unkmar | I stopped gdm3 and the screen doesn't respond to the lid anymore. Nothing happens. exactly what I *want* to happen. |
| 20:47.08 | anno_ | Can I switch to lxde from my current setup with gnome 2. |
| 20:47.10 | petemc | TakamachiFeito: you have told it that gensokyo.lan is a local domain |
| 20:47.42 | TakamachiFeito | wait, i thought that by locally you meant 127.0.0.1 |
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| 20:48.11 | Firztspawn | anno_ you can have both |
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| 20:48.31 | anno_ | how please Firztspawn ? |
| 20:48.35 | Firztspawn | but I installed lxde on a new system |
| 20:48.51 | Firztspawn | anno_ I assume you use gdm? |
| 20:48.58 | Firztspawn | (to log in) |
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| 20:49.14 | petemc | TakamachiFeito: check line 47 in that paste |
| 20:49.17 | anno_ | well I am using the basic setup from cd1 |
| 20:49.19 | valdyn | TakamachiFeito: local delivery means delivery without a network, not even 127.0.0.1 I think |
| 20:49.29 | Firztspawn | well.. install lxde, and then select lxde as your session |
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| 20:49.50 | anno_ | like apt-get install lxde ? |
| 20:49.51 | Firztspawn | basic setup... what desktop? |
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| 20:50.04 | anno_ | gnome I guess |
| 20:50.06 | Firztspawn | and yes |
| 20:50.12 | Firztspawn | k |
| 20:50.49 | Firztspawn | apt-get install lxde ... then logout and when you login; select lxde as your session |
| 20:50.51 | anno_ | Once it, lxde install will there be a de option at login ? |
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| 20:50.58 | lstarnes | anno_: there should be |
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| 20:51.05 | Firztspawn | should be - providing all went well |
| 20:51.19 | anno_ | That sounds like a great option |
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| 20:52.04 | Firztspawn | people have installed kde/gnome/fluxbox/lxde/etc ... and just select the one they want to use for that session |
| 20:52.10 | anno_ | all went well meaning apt-get install lxde succeeds w/out a hitch ? |
| 20:52.16 | lstarnes | correctg |
| 20:52.18 | Firztspawn | correct |
| 20:52.20 | lstarnes | s/g$// |
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| 20:52.59 | anno_ | thanks I am going to try that |
| 20:53.18 | anno_ | my laptop is an old Armada m300 btw |
| 20:53.34 | anno_ | 500 mhz and 320 mb ram |
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| 20:56.23 | Firztspawn | you will notice its a bit quicker than gnome then :) |
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| 20:56.42 | cwr | hi |
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| 20:57.30 | Lectus | anno_, that's perfect for debian + LXDE :) |
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| 20:58.44 | cwr | just installed debian squeeze on my vserver. the minimal instal image was provided by my hoster. now whenever I try to install some packages I see this kind of warning messages: |
| 20:58.46 | cwr | http://pastebin.com/cXmHVYfP |
| 20:58.51 | cwr | what does that mean? |
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| 20:59.28 | anno_ | squeeze with gnome runs better than most on this unit...I have hopped a little |
| 20:59.29 | anno_ | Puppy is the best competitor |
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| 21:00.27 | cwr | what I recognized after installation there were no ssh keys generated on the host |
| 21:00.42 | anno_ | does lxde auto mount partitions ? |
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| 21:01.39 | TakamachiFeito | cwr Do the offending scripts have a '### BEGIN INIT INFO' section and the like? |
| 21:02.27 | TakamachiFeito | i think insserv needs them to know what runlevel to make scripts symlinks in |
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| 21:02.46 | TakamachiFeito | So how do I go about setting up exim to receive mail on port 25 and deliver it to local user mailboxes (/var/mail/...), as well as directly send mail to other hosts with smtp when using /usr/bin/mail? |
| 21:03.32 | TakamachiFeito | is there a howto somewhere? i'm failing at google at the moment |
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| 21:04.47 | cwr | TakamachiFeito: thi is what the script looks like |
| 21:04.49 | cwr | http://pastebin.com/brJrcdhq |
| 21:04.50 | Amarande | bwuh, why does Sound Juicer always find multiple database entries for basically every CD I put in? |
| 21:04.52 | nkuttler | TakamachiFeito: that sounds like the default config to me when you pick internet site or whatever it's called |
| 21:05.16 | converge | after I do ssh user@local-network-host it takes 12seconds to show password prompt, there is some way to improve the performance about it? |
| 21:05.29 | Woet | how to solve this locale issue? http://pastebin.com/MWby41tM - dpkg-reconfigure locales did not solve it |
| 21:05.36 | larrikin_ | libedataserverui-3.0-0 doesn't need to depend on evolution-data-server-common ..this is a mistake |
| 21:05.40 | Woet | converge: fix your dns servers |
| 21:05.49 | Woet | converge: or your reverse DNS record/nameservers for the IP you are connecting from |
| 21:06.24 | Woet | converge: ssh does a reverse DNS lookup on the IP you are connecting from, so any issue preventing it from doing so will slow down the password prompt. |
| 21:06.39 | nkuttler | Woet: hm, did you generate any locales? |
| 21:06.48 | Woet | nkuttler: nope, didn't do anything with locales. default squeeze install |
| 21:07.06 | simonlnu | TakamachiFeito: start with dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config then look at the various files and see what you need to do (plenty of comments). there's also an #exim |
| 21:07.07 | Woet | nkuttler: locale-gen doesn't fix it either |
| 21:07.13 | nkuttler | Woet: looks like you should build at least en_US.UTF-8 |
| 21:07.15 | converge | Woet: thanks |
| 21:07.18 | TakamachiFeito | cwr try this http://pastebin.com/q0K0TfXU |
| 21:07.21 | nkuttler | Woet: select it in dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:07.28 | Woet | nkuttler: locale-gen and dpkg-reconfigure have it selected and do build it |
| 21:07.53 | Woet | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/jLUwTUPm |
| 21:08.30 | Woet | nkuttler: they are uncommented in /etc/locale.gen too. |
| 21:08.33 | nkuttler | Woet: hm.. i vaguely remember that error but think generating the locales fixed it for me |
| 21:08.36 | TakamachiFeito | simonlnu: oh wow. i was never prompted for that choice before. thanks |
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| 21:09.08 | Woet | nkuttler: reboot or relogin doesnt fix it either |
| 21:09.24 | nkuttler | Woet: oh, set the default locale to which ever you generate |
| 21:09.35 | Woet | nkuttler: how to do so? |
| 21:09.39 | unkmar | I've removed acpi,apci-support and anything else that says acpi. I remove all apmd. Still gnome reacts when I open or close the lid on my laptop. |
| 21:09.51 | Amarande | also, how the heck is an entry for ONE cd showing the tracks of both CDs in a two-CD set |
| 21:09.53 | nkuttler | Woet: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:10.05 | Woet | nkuttler: as mentioned, i've tried that. it's selected there. it doesn't solve it. |
| 21:10.07 | nkuttler | hm, nope, have it set to None on this box.. |
| 21:10.28 | Woet | i've tried none and all en_us variants, it doesnt make a difference |
| 21:10.44 | unkmar | I get warnings if I chose to remove upower or gnome-power-managment. Those actions suggest I remove gdm3 which pretty much means gnome gets toasted. |
| 21:10.55 | simonlnu | TakamachiFeito: you might want to install anthoer exim daemon too, depending on your needs. -light is very basic, doesn't do stuff like mysql/postgres/ldap |
| 21:11.01 | nkuttler | Woet: are you setting locale env vars for root? |
| 21:11.17 | Woet | nkuttler: i'm only using locale-gen and dpkg-reconfigure now, haven't set any vars |
| 21:11.30 | simonlnu | another* |
| 21:11.53 | nkuttler | Woet: i'm out of ideas then |
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| 21:12.38 | cwr | TakamachiFeito: Great job it works. Thank you! |
| 21:12.45 | cwr | but there is one more question |
| 21:12.49 | TakamachiFeito | simonlnu: thanks, but -light does all i need |
| 21:12.49 | Woet | nkuttler: i am too, that's why i came here :) |
| 21:12.50 | cwr | I also get this message |
| 21:12.57 | cwr | insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (3 4 5) of script `ssh' overwrites defaults (2 3 4 5). |
| 21:13.06 | cwr | Anyone an idea about this one? |
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| 21:13.17 | valdyn | cwr: ignore it |
| 21:13.28 | simonlnu | cwr: make a new symlink for rc2.d |
| 21:13.41 | Woet | nkuttler: wait, my ssh client might be the problem |
| 21:13.42 | TakamachiFeito | check what /etc/rc.*/ folder has the ssh script in |
| 21:13.44 | simonlnu | cwr: if you don't want it to run at 2, then ignore |
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| 21:14.32 | simonlnu | cwr: 2 is the default runlevel after single user and the boot process |
| 21:14.50 | TakamachiFeito | maybe not, he's on a rented vps |
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| 21:14.56 | simonlnu | runlevel |
| 21:14.57 | simonlnu | N 2 |
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| 21:15.26 | simonlnu | he said it's a squeeze, but who knows what they did... |
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| 21:16.56 | simonlnu | cwr: ssh in /etc/init.d is the server. has nothing to do with the client, fyi |
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| 21:17.27 | unkmar | choosing to remove gnome-power-managment or upower suggests I remove gdm3 which will toast gnome. That won't FIX the problem that will make it many times worse. |
| 21:17.47 | cwr | so in fact I can safely ignore this warning, correct? |
| 21:18.13 | simonlnu | cwr: that all depends what you wanna do |
| 21:18.17 | Amarande | ooookay, this is fun |
| 21:18.25 | Amarande | I can't seem to rip 2-CD sets properly with sound juicer, period |
| 21:18.52 | Amarande | at least for this one, the database rammed the two discs together so the DB sees it as 1 145-minute CD with 31 tracks |
| 21:19.17 | simonlnu | o_O |
| 21:19.29 | Amarande | the first disc works fine, since it's the first 17 tracks, but this means that the info for the disc 2 songs is still showing up as tracks 18-31 of one big "disc" entry rather than 1-14 of disc 2 |
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| 21:19.55 | Amarande | if I rip 1-14, they'll get ogged with the titles of 1-14, if I rip 18-31, it'll most likely attempt to rip tracks 18-31 of a CD that has no such tracks, producing 14 tracks of silence |
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| 21:20.12 | simonlnu | i use grip |
| 21:20.13 | Amarande | hmmmm ... let's try 18-31 anyway first though |
| 21:20.24 | simonlnu | or cli |
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| 21:20.27 | Amarande | I had planned to try abcde, but for some reason it can't find the CD drive |
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| 21:22.02 | cwr | simonlnu: I don't think I will use different runlevels with my server. it is a rented virtual server and I have no idea what I should with different runlevels there :) |
| 21:22.02 | Amarande | wow, ripping track 18, at least, produced an audible track rather than nothing ... maybe it really *does* work that way |
| 21:22.04 | Amarande | still, kind of odd |
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| 21:22.45 | simonlnu | cwr: type runlevel and see what it outputs |
| 21:22.59 | Amarande | nope, apparently not |
| 21:23.05 | Amarande | all the "18-31" tracks are coming out the same |
| 21:23.31 | cwr | # runlevel |
| 21:23.31 | cwr | N 2 |
| 21:23.38 | cwr | whoops |
| 21:24.20 | Woet | i'm trying to create a honeypot running debian, basically logging and reporting any port scans/brute forcers from any IPs |
| 21:24.22 | simonlnu | ok, so yeh, rc2 is also the default on that thing. |
| 21:24.26 | Woet | i'm currently using nepenthes. is there any better tool? |
| 21:25.36 | simonlnu | cwr: do you want to run the ssh server? if you do, then you'll need that symlink there in /etc/rc2.d for ssh. (cp --no-deference /etc/rc3.d/*ssh /etc/rc2.d/) |
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| 21:27.11 | cwr | yes sure I want that. I mean what is going on here. I can login with ssh, but according to that warning ssh should not have been started automatically |
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| 21:28.48 | simonlnu | yeh. that is odd. maybe it got started another way |
| 21:30.02 | cwr | hmm, i am rebooting the server now. let's see whats happening :) |
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| 21:35.27 | anno_ | I just loaded lxde de and lost my touchpad-ability |
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| 21:36.25 | anno_ | What must one do to restore touchpad ? |
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| 21:38.54 | unkmar | anno_: almost identical to what I used to disable mine. assuming you are referring to the pointing device. |
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| 21:43.20 | anno_ | unkmar: yes the synaptics pointing device |
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| 21:48.57 | mallxs | hey, i try to rebuild a box one of it;'s jobs is dhcp-server on the old one i have dhcp3-server in init,d but not on the new one .. pls adv ? |
| 21:49.11 | karlpinc | !tell anno_ about synaptics |
| 21:49.36 | karlpinc | anno_: I don't know if that will help, but it's the only thing I know to do. :) |
| 21:50.13 | aum | hi - upgraded to evolution 3.03 (debian unstable), and evolution now thinks it's offline (even though workstation is on a LAN and other apps can access the net) |
| 21:51.20 | karlpinc | mallxs: It might be running as a standalone daemon, or with xinetd in a directory in /etc/xinetd.d ?? |
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| 21:52.30 | mallxs | karlpinc: ha have found it .. its renamed to isc-dhcp-server thx any how |
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| 21:54.04 | aum | is it just me, or is gnome3 a broken bleeding horrible mess? |
| 21:55.19 | Amarande | aum: I wouldn't call it that, but I rather disagree with the idea that it's an improvement over gnome2 |
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| 22:00.03 | doorp | Sorry for repeating... I've downloaded a netinst image and wrote it to a flash drive. I booted from it and started the installation... the install says it fails to recognize/find my CD for further drivers... any hint what I should do now? |
| 22:03.19 | unkmar | doorp: yeah, there is a patch. |
| 22:03.34 | unkmar | you .... Give me a few to remember. |
| 22:03.57 | doorp | unkmar: A patch? I need to slipstream drivers or something like that? |
| 22:05.43 | unkmar | doorp: No, you tell it to scan for an ISO image. |
| 22:06.13 | unkmar | I think it has something to do with hdmedia. I did this about a week ago. Trying to remember the details. |
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| 22:06.43 | unkmar | wait, you have netinstall and it is search for the CD? |
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| 22:07.28 | doorp | unkmar: Let me try to elaborate, I have a laptop without a CD, I would like to install a persistant Debian environment on it |
| 22:08.08 | mallxs | can it have to do with syslinux.cfg ? |
| 22:08.09 | doorp | unkmar: I've downloaded debian-6.0.3-amd64-netinst.iso , and written it to a flash drive... then booted from it |
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| 22:08.37 | doorp | unkmar: Then I've received the warning/error of failing to find my CD which is needed for drivers... |
| 22:08.42 | Woet | is there any way to convert the "[ 938493.39493 ]" number from dmesg into date/time? someone suggested "date -u -d @4533.907609" but that doesnt work |
| 22:08.51 | unkmar | How did you prepare the flash? |
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| 22:09.29 | doorp | unkmar: Used a windows utility for writing the image, it should be similar to the cat > /dev/sd... |
| 22:09.48 | doorp | unkmar: "Win32 Disk Imager" |
| 22:10.26 | ftn | Hey there. On the start menu, I have a bunch of entries for games I installed a while a go. Is there a way to re-generate the menu?, please |
| 22:10.38 | unkmar | does the USB as a CD when inserted in Windows? |
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| 22:11.09 | doorp | unkmar: Unrecognized under windows, but the Debian installation seem to start properly |
| 22:11.32 | doorp | It's a small disk-on-key |
| 22:12.06 | converge | is there some software for server reports ? like band usage, memory use, I wish something to send the report to my email or be online trought apache |
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| 22:14.04 | unkmar | doorp: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 22:15.32 | doorp | unkmar: I've found the "Win32 Disk Imager" as an alternative to the "cat .iso > /dev/sdX" ... by another distro... are you suggesting it's the cause for the error? |
| 22:15.34 | deed02392 | I want to bind a network service to an interface on the internet, but run the server on my machine at home (behind NAT) |
| 22:15.46 | deed02392 | is there a simply way I can do this, perhaps using SSH or something? |
| 22:15.55 | nkuttler | converge: i use logcheck and some custom scripts to monitor remote hosts. recurring emails tend to get ignored |
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| 22:16.25 | mallxs | deed02392: look for port forwarding on your modem/router |
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| 22:16.36 | converge | nkuttler: thanks, ill check it out |
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| 22:17.38 | deed02392 | no mallxs, I want to host it on my server at home, but have people connect to it via another IP address |
| 22:17.45 | converge | nkuttler: have you ever used awstats ? |
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| 22:17.51 | deed02392 | sort of like a reverse SSH tunnel would allow you to browse the net from another address |
| 22:17.52 | nkuttler | deed02392: port forwarding |
| 22:18.01 | nkuttler | converge: that's so 90s |
| 22:18.11 | deed02392 | port forwarding on my server then, not router? |
| 22:18.14 | converge | nice to know |
| 22:18.21 | deed02392 | ssh port forwarding i assume |
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| 22:19.24 | nkuttler | deed02392: oh.. right.. see ssh -L -R |
| 22:19.36 | deed02392 | thanks bud |
| 22:19.54 | unkmar | doorp: I did NOT have the problem you had. i was attempting a multiboot setup. Which required me to take the alternate route. |
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| 22:20.05 | nkuttler | deed02392: but honestly, i would only use that for temporary setups |
| 22:20.11 | deed02392 | how come? |
| 22:20.18 | nkuttler | deed02392: what prevents you from running the service on your server? |
| 22:20.19 | unkmar | my cat .iso > /dev/sdX system Simply worked. I did NOT use the netinstall though. |
| 22:20.25 | deed02392 | i want my IP to remain hidden |
| 22:20.39 | nkuttler | deed02392: which one? |
| 22:20.42 | deed02392 | so i want to provide one of my public IPs instead of my home one |
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| 22:21.05 | nkuttler | deed02392: yeah.. why don't you run whatever you want to demo on one of your public servers? |
| 22:21.25 | deed02392 | because it's much less powerful than the server i have at home of course |
| 22:21.47 | deed02392 | obviously i considered that already |
| 22:22.21 | mallxs | deed02392: cant you redirect |
| 22:22.28 | nkuttler | deed02392: can you be more specfic about what you're doing? |
| 22:23.22 | deed02392 | [service@mybox(homeIP)]<--->[mydedi(publicip)]<---[stranger1 connects to public ip and accesses service on mybox] |
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| 22:23.52 | nkuttler | deed02392: uh, yeah, i get that. define service |
| 22:24.03 | deed02392 | minecraft server |
| 22:24.12 | nkuttler | i see. no idea how that works# |
| 22:24.28 | unkmar | I acpi=off in the kernel and now the detect monitors doesn't work. so the HDMI doesn't exist. |
| 22:24.46 | deed02392 | i don't see how that's important nkuttler, all you need to know is it runs a daemon which binds to an interface on a given port |
| 22:25.18 | nkuttler | deed02392: you didn't even say you were running a daemon. could have been some silly web app for all i knew |
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| 22:25.55 | deed02392 | i said right from the beginning i wanted to bind a network service to an interface |
| 22:26.09 | deed02392 | i figured that would imply daemon |
| 22:26.14 | deed02392 | my apologies |
| 22:26.47 | nkuttler | no problem. just that sometimes people are trying to implement stuff that's far more complex than what they really need |
| 22:27.11 | deed02392 | sure |
| 22:27.25 | deed02392 | but the gist of it is, i want to run a daemon on a server here at home, but without having to give out my home ip address |
| 22:27.26 | mallxs | deed02392: redirect @dedi using ip and port forwarding @home ..... else look into ton0 |
| 22:27.45 | deed02392 | with SSH mallxs? |
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| 22:28.14 | deed02392 | ton0 not returning anything logical on google |
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| 22:29.16 | mallxs | iface tun0 inet static .. etc should go in to your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:29.24 | deed02392 | oh right, typo! |
| 22:29.51 | mallxs | deed02392: nop just a snmall hint |
| 22:30.17 | deed02392 | ok this sounds like what i'd like |
| 22:30.18 | deed02392 | thanks |
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| 22:31.04 | nkuttler | ah right.. tun/tap. haven't used those in ages |
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| 22:31.12 | mallxs | lol |
| 22:31.28 | nkuttler | yeah.. that's why i said ssh wasn't good. encrypted, easily interrupted etc |
| 22:32.17 | mallxs | he will hava to do a lot of googling before he is back to minicaft |
| 22:32.26 | deed02392 | i don't plan on playing it |
| 22:34.38 | mallxs | and your still will have to do port forwarding @dedi using iptables |
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| 22:39.10 | Amarande | in debian under gnome: is it a GNOME desktop environment specific program, the WM, the X server, or something else altogether that provides such basics as copy & paste? |
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| 22:40.49 | valdyn | Amarande: copy & paste is not basic, in X |
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| 22:41.33 | valdyn | Amarande: programs provide it, theres no proper unified standard usable across all programs that goes beyond simple text copy and paste |
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| 22:42.34 | valdyn | Amarande: but i dont know how or if it ties into X libraries |
| 22:42.36 | Amarande | well, I mean, if you switch from gnome to xfce, enlightenment without gnome, or some such, do you lose your copy and paste ability also unless you install some other particular package? |
| 22:42.48 | valdyn | Amarande: no |
| 22:43.33 | valdyn | Amarande: you lose nothing, its just that copy & paste is probably still broken across toolkits if it goes beyond simple text copy |
| 22:43.44 | doorp | I'm trying to install Debian 6.0.3 on a new laptop, the installation says I need to get a firmware file: "rtl18168e-2.fw" , which I can't seem to find... it's a deadend for me? :\ |
| 22:44.09 | Amarande | Ah, so even in GNOME or KDE, if you try copying from e.g. a GTK app to a KDE app or vice versa, expect failure |
| 22:44.29 | valdyn | Amarande: if it goes beyond just copying text, for all i know, yes |
| 22:45.09 | valdyn | Amarande: im not using c & p for more than text, heck, i barely use any GUI, so I cant say exactly about the current state |
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| 22:45.19 | Amarande | yeah, I pretty much only use it for text myself |
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| 22:46.19 | valdyn | Amarande: that works fine, across everything, inside X |
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| 22:47.42 | Amarande | ah, so text copy and paste is based in xorg, then |
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| 22:48.39 | valdyn | i just dragged a picture from iceweasel into gimp, that works too |
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| 22:48.58 | Amarande | and programs that use the *same* toolkit copypaste fine between each other whether you're using the corresponding DE or not? |
| 22:49.00 | valdyn | so it's probably not as bad now as i thought |
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| 22:49.32 | valdyn | Amarande: yes, your so called DE is a misleading construct |
| 22:49.40 | Amarande | am thinking of bailing out of gnome before wheezy releases, at the latest, as I'm not fond of the gnome3 philosophy |
| 22:50.30 | Amarande | that reminds me. when wheezy comes out I guess I am going to have to reinstall debian, since I can't back out all my bpo stuff as things like, say, the kernel are from bpo? |
| 22:50.58 | valdyn | Amarande: no you dont have to reinstall |
| 22:51.23 | valdyn | Amarande: its possible that a backports package has a nominally higher version, but thats not going to be all or even most |
| 22:51.26 | dvs | Amarande: If it's just the kernel, then no |
| 22:51.37 | larrikin_ | I have to use the fallback session permanently w/gnome3 |
| 22:51.53 | Amarande | hmm, what do I have from bpo ... think just the kernel, iceweasel aurora, and those backport packages that aurora needs |
| 22:52.55 | Amarande | considering pulling nvidia-kernel-dkms from it, also. |
| 22:52.56 | valdyn | Amarande: debian never needs to be reinstalled anyway |
| 22:53.06 | Amarande | yeah, that's probably true |
| 22:53.28 | Amarande | given that I just migrated debian over to basically an entirely new machine and brought it over to a new HD without needing to do more than a few specific tweaks |
| 22:53.33 | valdyn | Amarande: but up to some point of admin knowledge it can be the easier solution to many issues |
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| 22:54.37 | Jef91 | So whenever I try to install anything via apt-get I am getting this error: Can't locate Dpkg.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/sbin/dpkg-divert line 26. |
| 22:54.59 | valdyn | Jef91: how did you break your perl install? |
| 22:55.09 | Jef91 | No idea. |
| 22:55.17 | Jef91 | I've never even touched perl to my knowledge |
| 22:55.27 | Jef91 | Any idea how to correct it? |
| 22:55.33 | valdyn | Jef91: someone or some thing did that though |
| 22:55.42 | Jef91 | No doubt. |
| 22:55.50 | Jef91 | Just worried about fixing it at this current point in time though |
| 22:55.55 | Jef91 | hunting down why it happen can come later |
| 22:55.57 | valdyn | Jef91: you have to use ar and tar to extract those files and put them in place on the .deb file |
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| 22:56.30 | Jef91 | so grab the perl .deb and manually extract it's contents? |
| 22:56.55 | valdyn | /usr/share/perl5/Dpkg.pm is in the package libdpkg-perl |
| 22:57.15 | valdyn | Jef91: actually, dpkg itself might work, just the glue is broken |
| 22:57.23 | valdyn | Jef91: so maybe you can use dpkg -i |
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| 22:57.33 | larrikin_ | the new dpkg has a dependency on tar's version, I wonder how much havoc that's causing |
| 22:58.07 | Amarande | larrikin: a couple months ago I remember someone coming in here in a panic because they couldn't get any packages to install and couldn't fix it |
| 22:58.20 | valdyn | Jef91: it wouldnt expect only that part to be broken though |
| 22:58.28 | Amarande | I think it actually was something to do with tar version issues |
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| 22:59.08 | Amarande | yeah they'd installed either a new dpkg or a new tar, the new one wouldn't work with the old other one, and then they couldn't install ANY packages to overcome that because dpkg didn't work. |
| 22:59.17 | Amarande | that's what I remember anyway |
| 22:59.19 | larrikin_ | Amarande I hit the problem only a couple of days back (I don't auto upgrade) .. I ended up manually extracting the tar binary from the package |
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| 23:01.22 | Jef91 | reinstalling dpkg did the trick |
| 23:01.28 | Jef91 | apt-get install --reinstall dpkg |
| 23:01.30 | Jef91 | >.< |
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| 23:01.41 | born2troll | is my driver ( nvidia gx 560 ti) in the backports by now? |
| 23:01.50 | Amarande | ,versions nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 23:01.53 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; squeeze-backports/non-free: 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 290.10-1; wheezy/non-free: 290.10-1 |
| 23:02.11 | Amarande | check nvidia page, see if 275.36 supports yours |
| 23:02.59 | born2troll | Amarade they dont -.- my driver will come on backports soon but i dont know if its there already |
| 23:03.16 | Amarande | that reminds me, I still need to try 275.36 myself |
| 23:03.43 | born2troll | i made myself a very ergonomic desk =) |
| 23:03.43 | Amarande | I have a 250 GTS, which even 195.36 worked with, but sometime post 2.6.32 changes were made to headers that means the non-backported package won't build with the bpo 2.6.39 |
| 23:04.13 | Amarande | I think that backport just came down this weekend since it wasn't there earlier this week |
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| 23:05.25 | Amarande | hmm |
| 23:05.28 | Amarande | is it not in amd64? |
| 23:05.37 | Amarande | how does ,versions work with different arch, I keep forgetting |
| 23:06.30 | Amarande | when I try apt-get -t squeeze-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms I'm still getting 195.36 |
| 23:06.58 | Amarande | oh, dangit. forgot to add non-free for backports |
| 23:07.11 | dvs | the language! |
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| 23:10.51 | mparodi | Hello |
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| 23:11.23 | mparodi | is there a way to use a device in other computer as if it's connected in this computer, using SSH? |
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| 23:12.11 | valdyn | mparodi: what device? |
| 23:12.25 | mparodi | a PIC programmer |
| 23:12.54 | aum | mparodi: connected via RS232? |
| 23:13.12 | mparodi | yep, the problem is that I don't have a serial port here |
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| 23:13.48 | aum | mparodi: in a few lines of python you could implement a proxy |
| 23:14.06 | aum | mparodi: what program are you using on your local workstation to talk to the pic programmer? |
| 23:14.10 | mparodi | so I have connected it in other computer, but it doesn't have... anything. just the computer |
| 23:14.31 | Amarande | hrm. now I need to remember what I installed nvidia-glx-dev for, as apparently going to the backported nvidia driver is going to cause it to be removed. |
| 23:14.44 | Amarande | and bpo doesn't have that package in the new version. |
| 23:14.48 | aum | your other option is simpler - just buy a USB to RS232 adapter so you can plug the pic programmer into your local workstation |
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| 23:14.54 | mparodi | aum, I don't know what I'll use. I'm trying with piklab right now |
| 23:14.55 | born2troll | if i install a program from the squeeze backports and make a update after will it get updates too? |
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| 23:15.14 | valdyn | born2troll: why dont you read the instructions at debian-backports? |
| 23:15.24 | aum | the USB/RS232 adapter costs around $20, but it's by far the simplest and most stress-free option |
| 23:15.29 | mparodi | aum, it's not that easy because the voltage the adapter gives sometime is not enough |
| 23:15.57 | mparodi | and... it's Saturday night here! |
| 23:16.04 | mparodi | impossible to buy anything like that now |
| 23:16.06 | aum | mparodi: some adaptors do true RS232 levels, not just 0V/5V TTL |
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| 23:16.28 | aum | EIYF |
| 23:16.34 | mparodi | EIYF? |
| 23:16.44 | aum | Ebay Is Your Friend :) |
| 23:16.49 | mparodi | haha |
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| 23:17.18 | mparodi | believe me it would take at least 2 weeks to buy something there until it's here in my city |
| 23:17.34 | mparodi | and I already have a computer with serial port! |
| 23:17.41 | mparodi | so the point is to use it through ssh |
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| 23:19.45 | aum | mparodi: 2 steps: 1) hack the backend of your pic programmer software to talk through a TCP socket instead of through TTY port, (2) write a python server and client to bridge the two machines - server on the remote machine passing between TTY port and socket, and client on local machine talking to pic programmer app and remote proxy |
| 23:20.23 | aum | another option would be to look for some kind of "virtual tty port" driver |
| 23:20.34 | valdyn | its alot simpler |
| 23:21.07 | mparodi | valdyn, is it? |
| 23:22.08 | valdyn | mparodi: seems to me like you can use cat |
| 23:22.15 | mparodi | uh? |
| 23:22.18 | JonChisciotte | hi, I'm starting to install debian on a pc with a sandy bridge cpu, do u think it's safe to install squeeze? will I face problems of any kind? (actually mini.iso already asked me for rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw ) I'm coming back to linux and I don't know if there are problems with these new cpus/hw... thanks |
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| 23:23.02 | Amarande | JonChisciotte: the main issue you'll encounter with squeeze and sandy bridge is that onboard ethernet probably won't work |
| 23:23.14 | Amarande | you'll want to get an install image with the bpo 2.6.39 kernel, and then all is well |
| 23:23.32 | dvs | !kmuto |
| 23:23.32 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 2.6.39) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/oldstable/i386/ch04s03 |
| 23:24.05 | Amarande | I just went to Sandy Bridge myself after a motherboard failure, so yeah that's pretty much all that needs changing |
| 23:24.14 | mparodi | ahm, that's weird |
| 23:24.23 | JonChisciotte | thank you! I'm going to read the doc... |
| 23:24.36 | valdyn | mparodi: cat to read to the tty0 and cat to write to the ttyS0, both over ssh into a fifo |
| 23:25.10 | valdyn | mparodi: the fifo is created using mkfifo and behaves like a regular character device just like ttyS0 |
| 23:25.30 | aum | valdyn: but would it react ok to ioctl calls? |
| 23:25.31 | mparodi | I have another problem, it seems. I have tried to burn the pic directly from the other computer (using SSH) but it says http://paste.kde.org/157586/ |
| 23:25.53 | mparodi | so I wonder if this serial card is working at all! |
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| 23:27.49 | Amarande | Jon: also, if you are using an nVidia card which needs the proprietary driver to get 3D DRI, make sure that you also get that driver from bpo's non-free repo; the driver in squeeze's non-free repo will NOT build with the bpo kernel |
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| 23:28.00 | Amarande | but you can worry about that post install |
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| 23:29.20 | JonChisciotte | Amarande, tnx, but no external card, just the HD one |
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| 23:46.53 | j_dulaney | How do I change where apt-get looks for things? |
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| 23:47.10 | j_dulaney | For some reason, it's looking at http://ftp.debian.org |
| 23:47.18 | j_dulaney | Which makes no sense, and is not working |
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| 23:48.05 | rainfyre | Good day everyone |
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| 23:48.25 | streuner | j_dulaney: /msg dpkg sources.list |
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| 23:49.11 | rainfyre | When I installed squeeze on my computer, I used a KDE install .iso I've since switched over to gnome, and I thought I removed all the kde stuff out of my system, but it's still showing up when I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. |
| 23:49.22 | rainfyre | Is there a way to stop this from happening? |
| 23:49.45 | lstarnes | rainfyre: remove whatever kde stuff remainsd |
| 23:49.48 | lstarnes | s/d$// |
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| 23:50.00 | rainfyre | lstarnes: ok |
| 23:50.10 | rainfyre | lstarnes: what is s/d$// ? |
| 23:50.18 | sohum | did debian deliberately remove NaCl from the chromium package? |
| 23:50.25 | lstarnes | it's a regular expression. I meant to delete the d at the end |
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| 23:51.01 | rainfyre | lstarnes: what should it look like? |
| 23:51.15 | j_dulaney | streuner: Where is it located? |
| 23:51.21 | lstarnes | rainfyre: what should what look like? |
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| 23:51.24 | Tramp | !tell rainfyre -about remove kde |
| 23:51.48 | rainfyre | Tramp: thank you!! |
| 23:51.53 | Tramp | yw |
| 23:52.04 | rainfyre | lstarnes: the expression without the d at the end :) |
| 23:52.22 | lstarnes | rainfyre: remove whatever kde stuff remains |
| 23:52.34 | lstarnes | I had a 'd' at the end by accident |
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| 23:53.20 | j_dulaney | streuner: If I knew where it was located, I should be able to edit it and get it working |
| 23:53.55 | rainfyre | lstarnes: thank you |
| 23:54.09 | rainfyre | lstarnes: Tramp: Done. whew! |
| 23:54.30 | streuner | !+tell j_dulaney -about sources.list |
| 23:54.31 | dpkg | told j_dulaney about sources.list. |
| 23:55.20 | j_dulaney | Ah |
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| 23:57.10 | j_dulaney | streuner: I'm not familiar with dpkg or apt-get; I usually use Fedora |
| 23:57.26 | j_dulaney | does not know where to find sources.list |
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