| 00:00.23 | heldus | tnx abrotman |
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| 00:22.31 | MolSno | virgins |
| 00:22.33 | MolSno | all of you |
| 00:23.01 | MolSno | I like how there are a total of 2 ops in this beast of a channel |
| 00:23.16 | lstarnes | MolSno: you clearly haven't checked the actual access list |
| 00:23.23 | modnar | I like trolls, please continue |
| 00:23.37 | heldus | abrotman: building from source worked fine, and i also found out why pinning didn't work before (priority for unstable was too high even if it was lower than the one for stable). thanks again! |
| 00:23.38 | MolSno | there's 2 ops online right now |
| 00:23.51 | lstarnes | MolSno: no, there are two people actively holding +o |
| 00:24.06 | lstarnes | but there are a lot of people who have op access. they just don't currently have +o showing |
| 00:24.18 | MolSno | whatever |
| 00:24.31 | MolSno | takes Istarnes's entire feline length into his mouth, gagging as he swallows the knot <3 |
| 00:24.32 | Monotoko | hmm quick question, how do I set a umask in proftpd so it uploads with 775 files and 664 folders? |
| 00:25.33 | lstarnes | modnar: should we summon the guard? |
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| 00:26.34 | MolSno | murrs, humping softly against Chuckles's hand, twisting the tip of his finger in Chuckles's butthole ^w^ |
| 00:26.36 | Monotoko | let me rephrase... what are the numbers I need for 775 664 in umask form? |
| 00:26.54 | MolSno | snuggletackles Monotoko and starts romping on top of her =^________^= |
| 00:26.57 | lstarnes | modnar: 777 - whatever those numbers are |
| 00:27.06 | hikenboot1 | abrotman reguarding our earlier converstation are you saying run debian with the freebsd kernel in order to get ZFS working ? also would this work with kvm and iscsi and possibly even proxmox (proxmox is a long shot) |
| 00:27.10 | Monotoko | MolSno, I'm a guy o.0 |
| 00:27.15 | lstarnes | modnar: oops, that was for Monotoko |
| 00:27.16 | MolSno | that's ok |
| 00:27.17 | modnar | huh? |
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| 00:27.38 | MolSno | rubs fisted's knot while groping at his crotch with his feet =^____^= |
| 00:27.42 | lstarnes | MolSno: to force 755, then 002. for 664, I think it's 113 |
| 00:27.42 | nkuttler | lstarnes: it's like 666, just more evil |
| 00:27.58 | abrotman | hikenboot1: uhm .. i have no idea |
| 00:28.03 | abrotman | MolSno: do you need help with Debian? |
| 00:28.09 | Monotoko | I seem to have a fairly awkward name |
| 00:28.12 | Monotoko | but thank you guys :P |
| 00:28.13 | MolSno | no |
| 00:28.19 | fisted | son, i am disappoint. |
| 00:28.19 | MolSno | just yiffin y'all |
| 00:28.24 | MolSno | aims and shoots, but misses abrotman's mouth, leaving a mess of jizz dripping down abrotman's chin! |
| 00:28.25 | babilen | MolSno: Play elsewhere then. |
| 00:28.28 | abrotman | MolSno: please try a social channel, #defocus would be a good start |
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| 00:28.35 | abrotman | end of that |
| 00:28.47 | hikenboot1 | abrotman I have this ultimate debian setup...i just cant seem to get all the pieces working together |
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| 00:29.13 | abrotman | hikenboot1: be aware that using a freebsd kernel, and some of their userspace may lead to other issues |
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| 00:30.43 | hikenboot1 | abrotman I already had serious problems with its installer |
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| 00:32.01 | pythonsnake | What is the most sized package? |
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| 00:32.34 | modnar | dunno |
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| 00:34.51 | jhutchins_lt | pythonsnake: I assume you mean the largest, and I would guess it's openoffice, although it's spread across multiple .debs |
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| 00:36.46 | streuner_ | true, but what about GNOME or KDE? |
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| 00:37.01 | monstaRtruck | hey guys |
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| 00:37.19 | monstaRtruck | did debian site rearange their download options |
| 00:37.25 | monstaRtruck | cause i complained lol |
| 00:37.32 | abrotman | complained to who? |
| 00:37.37 | monstaRtruck | seems like the grouped the download |
| 00:37.41 | abrotman | !sort by size |
| 00:37.42 | dpkg | i heard sort by size is aptitude search ~i -O installsize -F"%p %I", or see <sort by size sarge> |
| 00:37.44 | monstaRtruck | into 1 instead of 6 |
| 00:37.47 | monstaRtruck | links |
| 00:37.56 | abrotman | monstaRtruck: what are you really looking for ? |
| 00:38.04 | monstaRtruck | well last time |
| 00:38.10 | monstaRtruck | i downloaded debian install |
| 00:38.15 | monstaRtruck | cd1 like ppl said |
| 00:38.22 | monstaRtruck | i dont want to do the net install |
| 00:38.33 | monstaRtruck | but when i installed it half of my menus were missing |
| 00:38.36 | themill | dpkg: tell monstaRtruck about enter |
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| 00:40.57 | monstaRtruck | oh nm they are still all there |
| 00:41.12 | monstaRtruck | how come im missing my admin menus then |
| 00:42.25 | streuner_ | still dont get what monstaRtruck want tell us |
| 00:43.15 | monstaRtruck | i installed debian 6 and im missing prefs and admin menus |
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| 00:43.26 | monstaRtruck | from sys menu |
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| 00:44.29 | abrotman | monstaRtruck: in gnmome? |
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| 00:44.33 | monstaRtruck | yes |
| 00:44.42 | hikenboot1 | the actual zfs Posix layer ZPL is now available on the 2.6.30-3.0.0 kerne which happens to overlap with one of the kernels supported by proxmox from what I read is this kernel available for any debian distribution ...if so which one? How do i find out? |
| 00:45.10 | recurrence | Hi All, can anyone contribute to any Debian package? What is the process (Is there a page on it)? |
| 00:46.34 | monstaRtruck | help |
| 00:47.57 | babilen | recurrence: http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2010/12/how_to_contribute_to_Debian/ -- The easiest way is probably to fix bugs, create patches against our packages and upload those to the bug reports in question. |
| 00:48.21 | monstaRtruck | babilen how come my menus r missing |
| 00:48.25 | monstaRtruck | when i installed |
| 00:48.47 | recurrence | Thanks babilen, I'll check that out :) |
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| 00:49.20 | babilen | monstaRtruck: I doubt that is the case, but you are most likely missing the packages that would contain the programs you are after. |
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| 00:49.37 | recurrence | do maintainers decide what changes are accepted? |
| 00:49.38 | monstaRtruck | wel i dl the cd1 |
| 00:49.40 | monstaRtruck | and installed |
| 00:50.25 | babilen | recurrence: Sure, but if your patches are fixing bugs and are of suitable technical quality I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be accepted. |
| 00:50.37 | streuner_ | monstaRtruck: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 00:50.52 | streuner_ | monstaRtruck: and check out your sources.list |
| 00:51.06 | recurrence | ahh okay, thanks babilen |
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| 00:54.22 | monstaRtruck | but still how could it install from cd1 and be missing menus |
| 00:54.38 | monstaRtruck | ive seen ppl w similar problems on google too |
| 00:54.53 | themill | wtf does "missing menus" actually mean? |
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| 00:55.31 | monstaRtruck | go to start > system > administration |
| 00:55.37 | monstaRtruck | i only see 2 items |
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| 00:55.58 | streuner_ | monstaRtruck: so you are using sid? |
| 00:56.06 | monstaRtruck | sid? |
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| 00:56.36 | streuner_ | nm, that makes no sense to me then |
| 00:57.00 | monstaRtruck | ya it dont matter im dling the live cd 1gig torent |
| 00:57.14 | monstaRtruck | if this doesnt work i will throw debian in the trash |
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| 00:57.25 | monstaRtruck | but i love it lol |
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| 01:00.19 | martianixor | hi, missed you channel :) |
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| 01:04.22 | themill | monstaRtruck: did you follow the advice given by dpkg about installing gnome? |
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| 01:05.50 | monstaRtruck | bbl |
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| 01:13.56 | Monotoko | hmmm, my umask doesn't seem to be working... anyone in here any good with umasks and can tell me the numbers needed to get folder permissions to be 775 and files to be 664? |
| 01:15.28 | zaltekk | anyone having trouble with iceweasel in sid? |
| 01:15.31 | Monotoko | nevermind |
| 01:15.35 | Monotoko | that was easier than I thought |
| 01:15.42 | abrotman | zaltekk: such as? |
| 01:16.09 | zaltekk | abrotman: never get to the gui. was working earlier today(had a long-running instance and i had to reboot). |
| 01:16.28 | abrotman | try safe mode |
| 01:16.31 | zaltekk | did. |
| 01:16.34 | zaltekk | nothing happens |
| 01:16.55 | zaltekk | i get teh safemode prompt to restore settings or continue into safemode, but then neither method works |
| 01:17.01 | zaltekk | and i get no output in a terminal |
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| 01:17.59 | abrotman | tried another usre? |
| 01:18.00 | abrotman | user |
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| 01:18.09 | zaltekk | nope, but i can do that. |
| 01:19.44 | zaltekk | no luck |
| 01:20.04 | zaltekk | i do see that the spawned xulrunner-stub and firefox-bin show they are using 0 memory |
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| 01:22.48 | abrotman | was that a completely new user? or just another user ? |
| 01:24.35 | zaltekk | new user |
| 01:24.39 | basso | dang, i cant get software-center to work in testing :( |
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| 01:25.29 | abrotman | this is a bad tihng ? |
| 01:25.35 | zykotick9 | hehe |
| 01:25.40 | abrotman | zaltekk: try to strace it .. see if you can tell where it gets stuck |
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| 01:26.54 | zaltekk | abrotman: stuck trying to poll and read some fds |
| 01:26.59 | zaltekk | keeps getting EAGAIN |
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| 01:28.35 | zaltekk | any way to look at what fd 5 and 6 are for the process? |
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| 01:30.32 | zaltekk | hmm, if it's reporting from xulrunner it's a unix socket an "anon_inode" |
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| 01:33.04 | ascheel | Looking to swap to Debian from Ubuntu. Any problems with most wifi chipsets? Worked well in Ubuntu, just wondering if wireless support is similar. Also, what version of Gnome is Debian currently running on latest stable? |
| 01:33.41 | Amarande | stable is running gnome2, not sure about how well wifi works with it or not, as I use only wired on my Linux machine |
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| 01:36.06 | zaltekk | abrotman: any more ideas? |
| 01:36.36 | pixolet | ascheel: : wifi works great on my netbook with atheros, and on my laptop with intel. I installed the firmware package for each, but I configured them with kde, not gnome |
| 01:37.17 | zaltekk | configuration frontend shouldn't matter |
| 01:37.30 | zaltekk | and wifi drivers are wifi drivers |
| 01:37.39 | zaltekk | the only problem could be if the kernel is too old to support your chipset |
| 01:37.42 | zaltekk | which isn't likely |
| 01:37.51 | pixolet | true |
| 01:37.53 | zaltekk | you just may need to get a firmware blob |
| 01:38.04 | zaltekk | ubuntu includes them on install disks |
| 01:38.24 | zaltekk | for debian you can put it on a flashdrive or such if you want it during install |
| 01:38.33 | zaltekk | you'll be prompted for it |
| 01:40.08 | martianixor | ascheel: my I PM for a quick question? |
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| 01:40.21 | ascheel | Well, in ubuntu I haven't had to do squat. Working out of the box. Atheros chipsets, btw. So as far as the kernel is concerned, it'll be whatever Debian's got on the latest stable. With the info from you fellas, I'm going to run with it because those are my only worries |
| 01:40.28 | ascheel | martianixor: absolutely you can. |
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| 01:44.12 | mhall119 | for atheros, you most likely need a binary blob |
| 01:46.21 | ascheel | double checking the chipset. It's just a generic netbook, so I'm not too concerned. Never could get my Realtek chipsets working. |
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| 01:47.01 | pixolet | heh. the only chipset I've ever had a problem with was broadcom, and I traded that out of my netbook a week after I got it |
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| 01:48.07 | ascheel | Sorry, you're right. rtl6169 if I remember right. Thought it would be a good idea to get one of the teeny Buffalo 802.11n dongles when they came out. Didn't research linux support. |
| 01:49.45 | ascheel | the onboard is atheros. The USB adapter was a realtek. |
| 01:50.41 | pixolet | i just plugged in my realtel dongle that was laying around here, and it worked no problem. it's an rtl8187b, though. |
| 01:51.05 | pixolet | so it only does b/g, which for my old router, is just fine |
| 01:51.11 | ascheel | 8187b comes to mind as one of the widely supported ones. |
| 01:52.36 | pixolet | :) it was the only adapter I found that told me what the chipset was before I bought it, to know if it would work. |
| 01:53.11 | pixolet | well, that and it had an external antenna port |
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| 01:56.18 | BARMAN07 | heyy |
| 01:56.34 | pixolet | morning |
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| 01:58.51 | BARMAN07 | Heartless :D |
| 01:58.55 | Heartless | :D |
| 01:58.58 | Heartless | kanki bi sikim yokmi |
| 01:58.59 | Heartless | :D |
| 01:59.06 | BARMAN07 | olm nerde bu götnü siktiklerim :D |
| 01:59.14 | Heartless | bot cogu |
| 01:59.22 | BARMAN07 | vallahmý :D |
| 01:59.34 | Heartless | nereden buLdun |
| 01:59.34 | BARMAN07 | olm ipleri var |
| 01:59.35 | Heartless | amk |
| 01:59.35 | Heartless | :D |
| 01:59.38 | Heartless | bot cogu |
| 01:59.39 | BARMAN07 | ne bilim mk |
| 01:59.43 | BARMAN07 | özellere bi gir :D |
| 01:59.46 | Heartless | Zyf_Lappy |
| 01:59.47 | BARMAN07 | dur toplu msj ataým :D |
| 01:59.48 | Heartless | whois cek |
| 01:59.49 | Heartless | anaLrsin |
| 01:59.49 | Heartless | :D |
| 02:00.16 | BARMAN07 | toplu msj attým |
| 02:00.18 | BARMAN07 | cvp gelirse |
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| 02:00.22 | BARMAN07 | bot diiller demektir :D |
| 02:00.30 | BARMAN07 | freetg hg ananý sikim :D |
| 02:00.35 | Heartless | :D |
| 02:00.53 | Heartless | bot oLm |
| 02:00.54 | Heartless | bunLar hep |
| 02:01.00 | BARMAN07 | o zaman çýkalým |
| 02:01.05 | BARMAN07 | az önce venezuella güzeldi :D |
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| 02:01.50 | Amarande | this is #debian, right? I didn't just end up in the Twilight Zone or something? |
| 02:01.51 | martianixor | OK what was that ? |
| 02:02.01 | martianixor | heh |
| 02:02.02 | pixolet | i was wondering what just happened, too |
| 02:02.17 | dax | Turkish. |
| 02:02.29 | civillia1 | hashed IRC :P |
| 02:02.33 | dax | I think maybe. |
| 02:02.38 | martianixor | well I figured ... at least google translation tried to translate |
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| 02:02.51 | Jasonn | hi, how do I block a user from sshing into the server? |
| 02:03.15 | civillia1 | Jasonn: heaps of ways, what is your preferred method? Username? IP address? |
| 02:03.22 | Jasonn | username |
| 02:03.25 | dax | Jasonn: man sshd_config, specifically DenyUsers |
| 02:03.29 | Jasonn | I meant a user as in username |
| 02:03.31 | civillia1 | /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 02:03.37 | Jasonn | ok |
| 02:03.40 | civillia1 | AllowedUsers I think |
| 02:03.43 | civillia1 | something like that |
| 02:03.43 | Jasonn | k thanks |
| 02:03.56 | ascheel | can prevent logins altogether if you change the shell to something like /bin/false |
| 02:04.12 | martianixor | Jasonn: DenyUsers directive |
| 02:04.16 | Jasonn | and how do I do that? |
| 02:04.21 | Jasonn | I need this done quick |
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| 02:04.22 | Jasonn | thanks ) |
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| 02:04.46 | Dev0n | how do you chain cron commands ? |
| 02:04.49 | ascheel | Jasonn: if the user is already connected, you're going to have to kill their session after you modify sshd_config (and restart sshd) |
| 02:04.56 | civillia1 | Jasonn: AllowUsers is the directive |
| 02:05.08 | Dev0n | * * * * python /script.py && python /script2.py ? |
| 02:05.10 | Jasonn | yeah |
| 02:05.16 | Jasonn | so what line do I add, sorry? |
| 02:05.23 | Jasonn | if I wanted to deny access to u1 |
| 02:05.23 | nevyn | slay(8) ftw with retribution ON |
| 02:06.07 | dax | Jasonn: add a line "DenyUsers u1" to /etc/ssh/sshd_config, then sudo service ssh restart |
| 02:06.11 | ascheel | Dev0n: that will work. && will execute the second command ONLY if the first returns exit status of 0 |
| 02:06.20 | Dev0n | ooh |
| 02:06.23 | Jasonn | does it matter where? |
| 02:06.36 | Dev0n | asarch, what do I have to do to make it execute whnever |
| 02:06.43 | dax | Jasonn: Not really. The end of the file is fine. |
| 02:06.49 | ascheel | Dev0n: you can use ; instead of && if you want the second command to work regardless of first completion. I recommend using a script if you've got much more than that. |
| 02:06.59 | Dev0n | gotcha |
| 02:07.03 | Dev0n | just 2 actually |
| 02:07.03 | Dev0n | thanks |
| 02:07.38 | Dev0n | would I have to give absoulte path to python ? |
| 02:07.57 | Dev0n | it's in standard /usr/bin location |
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| 02:34.02 | hikenboot1 | anyone read about segate and western digital reducing their warranties to 1 year...that sucks! |
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| 02:35.38 | joeoshawa | i just installed the drivers for an hp7310 and i am using xfce4 how do i set my computer up to use the printer |
| 02:36.17 | ascheel | cups. http://localhost:631 |
| 02:39.01 | dvs | joeoshawa: add yourself to the lpadmin group too |
| 02:41.43 | joeoshawa | its the hp7310 should i use hpijs or hpcups? |
| 02:42.00 | joeoshawa | cups i assume? |
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| 02:48.31 | ascheel | joeoshawa: try it out and see if she prints, I suppose. |
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| 02:49.30 | joeoshawa | cups worked i don't know what the other one is |
| 02:50.05 | dvs | inkjet? |
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| 03:10.36 | mwallacesd | Hi guys, good night! |
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| 03:11.55 | mwallacesd | What happens if I run an apt-get dist-upgrade if I am using a Debian Sarge? |
| 03:12.23 | mwallacesd | It will upgrade all the system package to the new current Debian? |
| 03:12.54 | dax | !sarge->etch |
| 03:13.38 | dax | heh. Do /msg dpkg sarge->etch, I dunno why the bot dislikes me today :p |
| 03:15.11 | mwallacesd | !sarge |
| 03:15.12 | dpkg | Sarge is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1, released June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <sarge sources.list>, <sarge-backports>. Get old sarge ISOs here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge |
| 03:16.10 | mwallacesd | !sarge ->etch |
| 03:17.15 | mwallacesd | !<sarge->etch> |
| 03:17.18 | abrotman | mwallacesd: you cannot go from sarge to squeeze, it will die |
| 03:17.26 | abrotman | you have to go through each release |
| 03:17.37 | abrotman | so that'd be sarge->etch->lenny->squeeze |
| 03:19.18 | mwallacesd | The machine is very OLD slow performance =(... So I can update all the system to the etch version just using apt-get dist upgrade or I need to install a new version from CD-ROM? |
| 03:19.33 | mwallacesd | abrotman, =) |
| 03:20.37 | abrotman | you can do it online .. it'll still be slow |
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| 03:22.46 | samba35 | how to check which files are installed with any package or list all files provided by package |
| 03:23.04 | abrotman | !tell samba35 about apt-file |
| 03:23.52 | samba35 | ok |
| 03:23.55 | samba35 | thanks |
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| 03:24.50 | mwallacesd | abrotman, It is only the base system with x and fluxbox... Maybe it is possible... What do you think? |
| 03:24.52 | samba35 | !auto-apt |
| 03:24.52 | dpkg | rumour has it, auto-apt is very cute. Run a shell under auto-apt and start doing something. If you access a missing file, and auto-apt can install a package that would provide that file, it does. http://packages.debian.org/auto-apt |
| 03:25.04 | abrotman | samba35: please msg the bot |
| 03:25.09 | abrotman | mwallacesd: try it and see |
| 03:25.13 | samba35 | sorry |
| 03:25.34 | mwallacesd | !sarge->etch |
| 03:25.43 | mwallacesd | !sarge>etch |
| 03:25.51 | abrotman | mwallacesd: please msg the bot |
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| 03:26.34 | samba35 | i am trying to install vde networking ,at vde console if i type any command i am getting error |
| 03:26.38 | mwallacesd | Sorry abrotman, how can I ask the bot, where is the bot commando list, please? |
| 03:26.49 | BLZbubba | is there a package for squeeze that contains sun/cassini.bin ? |
| 03:27.04 | abrotman | !tell BLZbubba about apt-file |
| 03:27.10 | abrotman | mwallacesd: /msg dpkg foo |
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| 03:28.51 | karlpinc | I want to setup a ssh tunnel that sits there forever. I use ssh -f -L.... But what command do I give ssh that will just sit there? (I could tell it to sleep a million years I suppose, but that seems silly.) |
| 03:29.28 | ascheel | karlpinc: you want #openssh What exactly are you trying to accomplish, though? |
| 03:29.29 | karlpinc | I'm writing a script that needs the tunnel and want setting up the tunnel to be the first thing the script does. |
| 03:29.32 | trist4n | i use this, karlpinc |
| 03:29.42 | trist4n | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.57 | trist4n | its generated from a ricey linux mint tunnel manager, but i suspect that would be ok. |
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| 03:31.05 | karlpinc | Humm, yes. I think -nN would work. |
| 03:32.19 | ascheel | karlpinc: I think you should consider OpenVPN |
| 03:32.28 | ascheel | ssh tunnels are not meant to be permanent |
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| 03:32.43 | karlpinc | ascheel: I've a number of openvpn instances already. This is a one-off script. I'll throw it away once it works. |
| 03:33.13 | ascheel | ah |
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| 03:38.11 | karlpinc | Trouble is, if I use -nN then I can't background it and let the script continue because I don't get the chance to enter a password. If I use -f I need to supply a command. (And I could setup a public/private key pair, but like I said this is a one-off script.) |
| 03:39.17 | karlpinc | I guess I'll just tell it to sleep for days and leave it at that. |
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| 04:05.16 | ascheel | karlpinc: use an ssh key pair. |
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| 04:06.40 | willwh | hi folks, real simple question, I have a VPS running squeeze, but I'd like to install drush (v4.x) |
| 04:06.49 | willwh | the package in the squeeze repo is 3.x |
| 04:07.01 | civillian | drush? Is that an STD? |
| 04:07.01 | willwh | What is the debian way to do so? |
| 04:07.10 | willwh | haha, it's a drupal-shell |
| 04:07.14 | willwh | hence the name |
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| 04:08.17 | ascheel | willwh: get a .deb package or install via source code. |
| 04:08.23 | civillian | willwh: Have you googled it? |
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| 04:08.29 | ascheel | willwh: or add a repo that has 4.x in it |
| 04:08.41 | willwh | civillian: no, I thought I'd come and ask where people probably have a pretty good idea of "the debian way" |
| 04:08.51 | willwh | ascheel: indeed, so, adding a sid repo, for example |
| 04:09.25 | ascheel | willwh: if you know of a repo with 4.x in it, sure. |
| 04:09.59 | karlpinc | !tell willwh about ssb |
| 04:10.25 | karlpinc | willwh: There's also the <uupdate> factoid, and the <stow> and <stow usage> factoids. |
| 04:11.59 | willwh | karlpinc: exactly the info I was looking for, very helpful, thank you kindly! |
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| 04:20.05 | nezZario | What's something that can do socks 5/http(s) proxies (that is, act as a server) |
| 04:20.06 | nezZario | ? |
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| 04:21.19 | Lumiere | Does anyone have a suggestion for a safe method to restart networking now that /etc/init.d/networking restart is no longer 'safe' |
| 04:22.05 | ascheel | nezZario: ssh can be a SOCKS proxy. |
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| 04:22.50 | nezZario | ascheel: any idea on a http(s) one? |
| 04:23.23 | ascheel | ssh creates an http(s) capable proxy. use -D |
| 04:23.27 | ascheel | (and potentially -g) |
| 04:23.31 | somiaj | put a new mobo in my computer, now my ethernet card is detecting as eth1 (intead of eth0) -- unfornate side effect is maple needs it to be at eth0 for its hostid, and I am trying to find where in /etc (or other place) I can remove the old info about eth0/eth1 so this gets detected as my only network card (since there is only one int he box) |
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| 04:23.37 | ascheel | nez |
| 04:23.55 | ascheel | nezZario: I'm assuming you're looking for a server solution? |
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| 04:25.19 | Justin | somiaj: /etc/udev/rules.d |
| 04:25.45 | karlpinc | !tell somiaj about z70 |
| 04:26.11 | nezZario | yeah |
| 04:26.13 | ascheel | karlpinc: is there a way to query the bot about commands without spamming #debian ? |
| 04:26.13 | somiaj | Justin: thanks that is what I needed, I was having trouble trying to find it. (: |
| 04:26.20 | somiaj | ascheel: /msg dpkg foo |
| 04:26.31 | nezZario | i was hoping to be able to have a single package since I have to write a mild admin panel for it |
| 04:26.50 | karlpinc | ascheel: /msg dpkg dpkgbot is also useful |
| 04:26.52 | ascheel | nezZario: ssh will open a socks proxy to be used http(s), but there are other packages as well that can do ONLY socks proxies. |
| 04:26.54 | DammitJim | how do I sync with an ntp server? |
| 04:27.00 | ascheel | karlpinc: thanks. :) and somiaj. |
| 04:27.10 | unkmar | DammitJim: ntpudate |
| 04:27.11 | ascheel | DammitJim: ntpdate |
| 04:27.19 | karlpinc | !ntpdate |
| 04:27.20 | dpkg | ntpdate is an obsolete and unmaintained program to set a system clock via <NTP>. Just install the ntp package instead. Since Lenny, ntp's default configuration files (NTPD_OPTS='-g' in /etc/default/ntp, 'iburst' option for default servers in /etc/ntp.conf) make ntpdate unnecessary. See also <why not ntpdate>. |
| 04:27.23 | unkmar | what ascheel said |
| 04:27.24 | nezZario | lmfao |
| 04:27.29 | nezZario | ascheel: any documentation I should read other than man sshd ? |
| 04:27.58 | karlpinc | nezZario: -n -N and -D |
| 04:28.10 | ascheel | nezZario: ssh, not sshd. ;) ssh -g -D8000 user@server |
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| 04:28.20 | karlpinc | nezZario: (in "man ssh", I just read that stuff.) |
| 04:28.30 | ascheel | karlpinc's is better if you want to background it. |
| 04:28.50 | DammitJim | I installed ntpdate |
| 04:28.52 | ascheel | If you want multiple machines to use the proxy once connected, you need -g (GatewayPorts) |
| 04:29.04 | ascheel | karlpinc: thanks on the ntpdate info. |
| 04:29.14 | karlpinc | DammitJim: Read the <ntpdate> factoid above. You just want to install ntp. |
| 04:29.17 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 04:29.28 | DammitJim | why are you guys telling me about ntpdate? LOL |
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| 04:30.20 | ascheel | DammitJim: because I'm screwed in the head sometimes. I'm still learning Debian. ;) If something conflicts with what I say, it's almost guaranteed I'm the one that's wrong. |
| 04:30.26 | DammitJim | same thing here |
| 04:32.03 | blackshirt | how we can completely remove bluetooth stack on gnome without breaks dependencies ? |
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| 04:33.15 | blackshirt | if we purge bluetooth, it would remove gnome-desktop-environment too |
| 04:33.32 | Justin | gnome-desktop-environment is a meta package |
| 04:33.56 | ascheel | blackshirt: is it not enough to drop the bt module (if possible)? |
| 04:34.10 | ascheel | blackshirt: it would still be installed, but completely disabled. |
| 04:34.38 | blackshirt | Justin: but, if we apply them, apt will remove a lot of packages |
| 04:35.18 | blackshirt | Justin: 127 to remove, Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 323 MB will be freed |
| 04:35.26 | blackshirt | i think this is not good |
| 04:35.26 | Justin | it shouldn't, removing a metapackage does not remove everythign it depends on |
| 04:35.37 | Justin | are you using aptitude or apt-get ? |
| 04:35.39 | blackshirt | ascheel: how to do that |
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| 04:35.58 | blackshirt | ascheel: bt module not loaded |
| 04:36.13 | Justin | why do you want to remove bluetooth anyway? |
| 04:36.47 | blackshirt | Justin: i'm using aptitude... because we don't have bluetooth device, we no need on it |
| 04:36.59 | somiaj | unless the packages in which the meta depends on are marked as 'auto' |
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| 04:38.48 | blackshirt | somiaj: what the mean ? |
| 04:39.32 | somiaj | blackshirt: packages can be marked as 'auto' or 'manual'. so if you installed the gnome metapackage, every packge it installed are marked as 'auto' (as in they were automatically installed by dependences) |
| 04:39.51 | simonlnu | deps and recommends |
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| 04:40.09 | blackshirt | somiaj: i have gnome desktop installed, i thinks all packages marked as auto |
| 04:40.11 | blackshirt | :D |
| 04:40.18 | ascheel | blackshirt: to prevent it from using system resources, you can try this: update-rc.d bluetooth remove |
| 04:40.36 | somiaj | blackshirt: so this is designed that if you remove a package, it will remove any of the depends it pulled in that aren't manual or other packages installed. apt-get doesn't remove them, so you can see which ones it wants to remove and then mark them as manual. |
| 04:40.58 | simonlnu | disable would work nicer, as it'll re-read the lsb init info when enabling it. IMO of course |
| 04:41.06 | Bublik2002 | hey guys im trying to do the alps patch because my dell e6410 doesnt work with scrolling and when i do i get the following error: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list |
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| 04:41.59 | simonlnu | Bublik2002: exactly what it says. it 'thinks' you don't have deb lines in your sources.list |
| 04:42.04 | blackshirt | ascheel: don't actually do anything ... .update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
| 04:42.21 | simonlnu | blackshirt: try disable instead |
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| 04:42.35 | Bublik2002 | simonlnu: so how do i fix that... sorry im new to debian |
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| 04:42.45 | blackshirt | somiaj: 127 packages to remove guys.. |
| 04:42.47 | simonlnu | !sources.list |
| 04:42.47 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
| 04:43.56 | blackshirt | simonlu: could we purge it ? |
| 04:44.41 | simonlnu | up to you, but you might break things (that are easy to fix for someone experienced, but time consuming, and hard for a newbie) |
| 04:44.52 | simonlnu | you forgot an n there |
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| 04:45.13 | ascheel | blackshirt: purge and remove will have the same effect on dependencies. Purge just additionally removes all config files (among others) associated with it. |
| 04:45.39 | simonlnu | i usually do purge, unless there's confs i wanna keep |
| 04:45.44 | karlpinc | Bublik2002: Since you're new to debian, you might be interested in the factoids (type "/msg dpkg msg the bot") and the <overview> and <introduction> factoids. |
| 04:46.43 | Bublik2002 | simonlnu: i have all those in my sources.list yet its still gives me that error |
| 04:47.12 | simonlnu | pastebin it please |
| 04:47.33 | blackshirt | simonlu:i have try to purge gnome-bluetooth, with a lot of dependencies removed too... we would see the effects |
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| 04:48.23 | simonlnu | not sure what you mean by "we would see the effects" |
| 04:48.45 | Bublik2002 | whats the url for pastebin again? |
| 04:48.45 | simonlnu | is that a question or a statement? |
| 04:48.51 | simonlnu | !paste |
| 04:48.52 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 04:49.34 | Bublik2002 | http://paste.debian.net/149700/ |
| 04:49.48 | blackshirt | simonlu: just seeing the impact of this step |
| 04:50.21 | simonlnu | Bublik2002: i meant your sources.list, sorry, i wasn't specific |
| 04:50.25 | ascheel | Bublik2002: did you 'apt-get update' after you modified sources.list? Please give us a pastebin of your sources.list also |
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| 04:51.14 | simonlnu | blackshirt: ok, thanks for clarifying |
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| 04:51.57 | Bublik2002 | http://paste.debian.net/149701/ |
| 04:52.07 | blackshirt | simonlu: if we look at pstree output, there are many console-kit-daemon "process"... abot 63 threads/process... is this normal ? |
| 04:52.15 | blackshirt | about |
| 04:52.33 | simonlnu | blackshirt: for things like you're doing, i like to use the aptitude ui for this, as i can remove a meta-package like that, but keep (set to manual) packages i want to keep on the system |
| 04:53.00 | simonlnu | blackshirt: purging doesn't always stop daemons, esp. if they're part of a user session |
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| 04:53.43 | blackshirt | simonlu: thanks..for greats advices. i have learn a lot of thing |
| 04:53.55 | karlpinc | simonlnu, blackshirt: That's interesting. There's also that package I can't recall (does it begin with an 'e'?) that lets you create fake packages just to satisfy dependencies. That way you can install meta-packages and not _have_ to install all the dependencies. |
| 04:53.57 | simonlnu | Bublik2002: um, you're going to have to fix that. mint isn't debian. there are bound to be conflicts in packages |
| 04:54.05 | simonlnu | equivs |
| 04:54.11 | karlpinc | simonlnu: that's it |
| 04:54.49 | simonlnu | blackshirt: yeh np |
| 04:55.01 | Bublik2002 | simonlnu: fix it how? thats what it came with by default |
| 04:55.13 | simonlnu | !mint |
| 04:55.14 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 04:55.14 | karlpinc | Bublik2002: You definatly want to read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware, including footnotes. |
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| 04:55.53 | simonlnu | Bublik2002: you either stick with mint, or you switch to debian |
| 04:56.01 | tidux | I'm having a problem with sudo and X programs |
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| 04:56.16 | tidux | although actually, I think it's with the root account |
| 04:56.20 | blackshirt | karlpinc: if we look at pstree output, there are many console-kit-daemon "process"... about 63 threads/process... is this normal ? |
| 04:56.35 | karlpinc | tidux: You should not use X as root. |
| 04:56.40 | karlpinc | blackshirt: Dunno. |
| 04:56.45 | blackshirt | tidux: exactly what the problems ? |
| 04:56.48 | Bublik2002 | simonlnu: im running lmde... same thing just easier to set up for me because im relatively new to linux |
| 04:56.49 | tidux | karlpinc: well no f**king kidding |
| 04:56.53 | tidux | I'm using X as a regular user |
| 04:57.00 | tidux | but I'm trying to launch unetbootin or wireshark as root |
| 04:57.03 | tidux | and it won't let me |
| 04:57.11 | tidux | says it can't connect to the X server at :0 |
| 04:57.15 | tidux | which is BS because it's running |
| 04:57.20 | simonlnu | blackshirt: you can pkill console-kit-daemon if you want, but i'd make sure to exit the xorg session first, at least |
| 04:57.28 | mhall119 | tidux: are you using sudo, or su root? |
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| 04:57.36 | tidux | mhall119: both, same error |
| 04:57.37 | tidux | durga ~ # unetbootin |
| 04:57.38 | tidux | No protocol specified |
| 04:57.38 | tidux | unetbootin: cannot connect to X server :0 |
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| 04:57.44 | simonlnu | tidux: .Xauthority won't let that happen unless you take steps |
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| 04:57.48 | willwh | tidux gksudo? |
| 04:57.53 | simonlnu | tidux: .Xauthority won't let that happen unless you take steps |
| 04:58.00 | tidux | simonlnu: except that's wrong |
| 04:58.01 | simonlnu | and the x server |
| 04:58.03 | tidux | it's always worked for me |
| 04:58.04 | karlpinc | tidux: That's because you should not run X programs as root. If you want to run wireshark, run tcpdump -w and give the output to wireshark. |
| 04:58.25 | simonlnu | wrong according to you perhaps |
| 04:58.46 | tidux | simonlnu: no, it's wrong as in "in three years of using Debian I have never encountered that error" |
| 04:58.53 | tidux | not in Etch, Lenny, Squeeze, or Wheezy |
| 04:59.08 | simonlnu | and? |
| 04:59.15 | tidux | and unetbootin needs root privs |
| 04:59.20 | tidux | it's utterly broken without them |
| 04:59.24 | tidux | how do I fix this? |
| 04:59.32 | simonlnu | then run it properly, with gksudo or something |
| 04:59.57 | tidux | why do I need gksudo? sudo -i in an xterm always worked fine |
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| 05:04.21 | nezZario | ok |
| 05:06.19 | nezZario | so |
| 05:06.41 | nezZario | to use ssh as a socks5 server, I would say something like -g -D 8000 someuser@localhost ? |
| 05:07.17 | tidux | you don't even need the -g |
| 05:07.31 | ascheel | yes, then point your SOCKS proxy to the ssh CLIENT. -g is needed if the browser and the ssh client are NOT the same machine |
| 05:07.32 | tidux | I use ssh -D 8080 foo@bar.baz |
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| 05:08.02 | ascheel | without -g, ssh only listens for proxy requests on 127.0.0.1. with -g it listens on 0.0.0.0 (all IPs) |
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| 05:09.08 | nezZario | can I use -g and -b together to bind only to a specific (or multiple) IPs? |
| 05:09.16 | blackshirt | simonlu: can we decrease this number ( i mean 63 was not efficient, if we just want 16 or something else) ? |
| 05:09.18 | nezZario | or maybe -B, i just rebooted this server |
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| 05:10.20 | nezZario | basically, this guy has a class C he's wanting to setup an individual proxy server on each IP.. |
| 05:10.27 | nezZario | i don't really /want/ to ask why |
| 05:10.42 | ascheel | nezZario: he wants to by pass corporate network policy, I'm guessing. |
| 05:11.04 | blackshirt | ascheel: can we decrease this number ( i mean 63 was not efficient, if we just want 16 or something else) |
| 05:11.06 | nezZario | i'm guessing the server can handle 250 something ssh processes running at once |
| 05:11.07 | ascheel | nezZario: if these are to be permanent proxies, he may want to look into another solution like ss5 (Google it) or something similar |
| 05:11.28 | ascheel | blackshirt: decrease what number? I don't think that was meant for me? |
| 05:11.37 | nezZario | well yeah, maybe. i got him to agree to drop the old style http proxies because it was useless |
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| 05:11.47 | nezZario | so maybe some more dedicated software is in order |
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| 05:13.24 | blackshirt | ascheel: if we look at pstree output, there are many console-kit-daemon "process"... about 63 threads/process. |
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| 05:27.24 | wt0vremr | Hello. I have a question about PDF. It is made in debian, in scribus. Looks great in evince, on other debian computer. But looks horrible in Acrobat Reader on XP. Why? |
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| 05:32.22 | ChrisPartridge | wt0vremr: is it a fairly simple document? |
| 05:32.38 | lstarnes | you can still request it now, but it will only work when you connect directlyq |
| 05:32.41 | lstarnes | argh |
| 05:32.44 | lstarnes | keyboard fail |
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| 05:41.01 | mrtn | As most of us here care about Internet and would like it to continue as a source of innovation, then please vote against SOPA: http://www.engineadvocacy.org/voice/ And if you are from outside the USA, then please leave your vote here: http://americancensorship.org/ |
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| 05:51.51 | kingsley | What's the best package for catching hackers? |
| 05:52.00 | kingsley | A so called "honey pot"? |
| 05:52.23 | civillian | kingsley: M$ windows |
| 05:52.37 | simonlnu | projecthoneypot.org can help |
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| 05:56.41 | wt0vremr | ChrisPartridge, No, the page is rather complicated. |
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| 06:01.07 | ChrisPartridge | wt0vremr: It's most likely not conforming to same standard, I've had similar issues with PDF created on *nix |
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| 06:19.48 | nezZario | anyone have 5 seconds for some iptables help? |
| 06:20.16 | nezZario | I have a few dozen IP addresses on this box, I have httpd set to listen to 0.0.0.0 (all) |
| 06:21.09 | nezZario | how do you say .."only 8.7.6.5 can connect to 1.2.3.4:80" where 1.2.3.4:80 is the local httpd server and 8.7.6.5 is the client |
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| 06:22.17 | simonlnu | -A (or -I) -s $source_ip -d $dest_ip -p tcp -j ACCEPT # for example |
| 06:22.36 | samba35 | what is tun and tap are ,i am bit confused about it .can u please explain |
| 06:22.47 | simonlnu | !tun |
| 06:22.48 | dpkg | i heard tun is the universal TUN/TAP device driver. http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/tuntap.txt |
| 06:24.50 | samba35 | thanks |
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| 06:34.33 | lstarnes | nezZario: maybe iptables -A INPUT ! -s 8.7.6.5 -d 1.2.3.4 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REJECT |
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| 07:03.24 | Tekk_ | I have a server running squeeze. I'm setting up a crontab with crontab -e, but the jobs aren't being run |
| 07:03.33 | trist4n | is the crond definitely running? |
| 07:03.37 | Tekk_ | yep |
| 07:04.05 | trist4n | :o |
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| 07:04.10 | trist4n | weirdu |
| 07:04.18 | Tekk_ | 56 01 * * * /usr/bin/update-bullet.sh was the entry. no mailto, no shell. yes the file is executable |
| 07:04.34 | trist4n | but its executing other things? |
| 07:04.43 | Tekk_ | it's the only cron job I have |
| 07:04.47 | trist4n | add like |
| 07:05.04 | trist4n | */1 * * * * uname >> /tmp/hi |
| 07:05.06 | trist4n | or whatever. just double check |
| 07:05.21 | trist4n | seems odd. |
| 07:05.39 | Tekk_ | okay, now waiting :P |
| 07:06.07 | Tekk_ | just to make sure, do you need some special perms or group to have a crontab? |
| 07:06.20 | Tekk_ | trist4n: nope, that job didn't work either |
| 07:06.24 | trist4n | that goes beyond the scope of where i can be helpful. |
| 07:06.41 | trist4n | chgeck theres nothing weird in var log |
| 07:06.51 | trist4n | i forget if fron has a corn.log or goes into messages by default. |
| 07:07.42 | Tekk_ | nothing on /var/log/messages that grep cron is finding |
| 07:07.45 | Tekk_ | and there's no cron.log |
| 07:08.02 | trist4n | throws hands in the air |
| 07:08.05 | Tekk_ | and the crontab is definitely in /var/spool/crontabs |
| 07:08.07 | trist4n | hopefully someone smart will read this soon. |
| 07:08.13 | trist4n | are you doing this as root or a user. |
| 07:08.16 | Tekk_ | user |
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| 07:08.22 | trist4n | maybe try root |
| 07:08.59 | Tekk_ | trying the dummy entry now |
| 07:09.02 | Tekk_ | for roon |
| 07:09.11 | Tekk_ | yep |
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| 07:14.56 | Psy-Q | elo |
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| 07:15.32 | Psy-Q | i've installed wheezy fresh from netinst, then xfce, but KDE apps have bugs in their theme (pulldown menus are only 3px wide with the handles appearing behind their text etc.). how can i set a proper KDE theme without installing KDE? |
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| 07:18.11 | Psy-Q | http://i42.tinypic.com/j0jzep.jpg <-- this is how broken KDE apps look by default |
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| 07:18.26 | Psy-Q | the "wrap words at" widget is messed up |
| 07:21.01 | esprimo | I'm on my phone so I can't see your picture but I think you want Qt themes |
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| 07:21.30 | esprimo | and not a KDE theme |
| 07:21.56 | Psy-Q | esprimo: thanks -- is there a way to set the Qt theme without any of the KDE tools? |
| 07:22.28 | esprimo | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/how-to-install-qt3-and-qt4-themes-without-kde-758065/ |
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| 07:23.02 | esprimo | Haven't read it but it's marked as solved so it should be good |
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| 07:25.08 | Psy-Q | esprimo: thank you, that fixed it |
| 07:25.24 | Psy-Q | whichever qt theme debian picks by default seems broken, then, and i can't see which one that is :( |
| 07:25.41 | Psy-Q | it was set to "desktop settings (default)" in qtconfig |
| 07:26.35 | Psy-Q | ah hah! |
| 07:26.38 | Psy-Q | it's the "GTK+" theme |
| 07:26.45 | Psy-Q | that one shows the broken widgets even in the preview |
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| 07:34.59 | antgel | hi people, new squeeze install, installed the minimum packages (bottom asterisk in tasksel, can't remember what it's called, "standard environment" or something). want to install xfce and useful dependencies. another machine of mine has task-xfce-desktop, but i can't find it in aptitude here. in fact i can't see any task-* metapackages. what am i missing? |
| 07:36.18 | Psy-Q | antgel: can you even install tasksel? |
| 07:36.35 | Psy-Q | tasksel and the task- packages are in main, that should work anyhow :\ |
| 07:36.44 | antgel | Psy-Q: yes, tasksel is installed, it ran during installation |
| 07:36.48 | esprimo | What is task-xfce-desktop? A task manager? |
| 07:37.05 | antgel | esprimo: aptitude show task-xfce-desktop |
| 07:37.19 | Psy-Q | antgel: that's weird. those task- packages depend on tasksel, and it's in the same repository |
| 07:37.19 | antgel | Psy-Q: exactly, it *should* work but it doesn't, that's why i'm here |
| 07:37.35 | Psy-Q | antgel: squeeze you say! hmm. lemme check on that other squeeze machine |
| 07:38.32 | antgel | ah :) |
| 07:38.33 | Psy-Q | antgel: you are right, on squeeze those packages don't show up for me either |
| 07:38.34 | antgel | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=task-xfce&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 07:38.42 | Psy-Q | on wheezy they're there |
| 07:39.08 | antgel | it's only in wheezy, clearly. i expect my home machine was set to track testing. okay, thanks :) |
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| 07:39.50 | Psy-Q | no prob, wish everything were so easy :) |
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| 08:22.28 | sephii | what are you guys using to backup your workstation? |
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| 08:23.24 | crosswalk | Can anyone explain to me what xargs does as if I was a five year old? |
| 08:24.21 | sephii | crosswalk: it takes each item you pass it from stdin and executes a command on it |
| 08:24.26 | kgoetz | crosswalk: xargs is something daddy works with |
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| 08:25.49 | crosswalk | sephii: I suppose I should ask one more question just because I'm not entirely sure then. What is stdin? Is that limited to the input from the keyboard? |
| 08:26.22 | sephii | crosswalk: no, you can pipe any output you want to xargs |
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| 08:26.52 | sephii | crosswalk: for example you could do a "ls | xargs cat" |
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| 08:30.50 | crosswalk | sephii: Didn't even know cat could do that. |
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| 08:32.31 | mjt | it is sorta the same as cat * |
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| 08:32.59 | mjt | the primary job of cat program :) |
| 08:33.07 | cantido | except that cat starts for each entry.. |
| 08:33.19 | mjt | hence "sorta" |
| 08:33.53 | crosswalk | The way this book made it seem is that cat only read text files and printed their contents. |
| 08:34.13 | mjt | what's a "text file" ? |
| 08:34.16 | cantido | crosswalk: it prints to stdout.. you can redirect stdout |
| 08:34.29 | mjt | it copies input to stdout, nothing more |
| 08:34.40 | cantido | crosswalk: as long as you dont pipe to something that shits if it gets binary.. you can pipe whatever you like |
| 08:34.47 | cantido | The wonders of Unix(TM) |
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| 08:34.53 | rly | How can I list all available versions of some package? |
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| 08:35.04 | mjt | rly: available where? |
| 08:35.09 | br0wncar | is there a midnight commander chat room ? |
| 08:35.10 | mjt | rly: you may ask judd |
| 08:35.37 | rly | mjt: available by doing any apt-get command, like apt-get install -t type |
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| 08:35.47 | mjt | rly: apt-cache policy |
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| 08:37.55 | rly | mjt: in the version table it lists <some version> and then a 0<newline>500<space><URL> How can I install that version? |
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| 08:39.52 | crosswalk | I was hoping xargs would help me with an exercise I've been stuck on for the past few days. I have to mv contents of a dir to another dir inside the original dir that begin with a capital letter. I keep running into a problem where the uppercase dir keeps trying to move itself into itself. |
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| 08:42.20 | RandoMan70 | Hello. I have linux-image-2.6-686 held by aptitude, with linux-image-2.6.17-2-686 held too. |
| 08:42.34 | RandoMan70 | But when I do update from lenny to squeeze, it still wants to install new kernel |
| 08:42.55 | RandoMan70 | I have compiled by hands kernel (thanks to hosters) |
| 08:42.57 | sephii | crosswalk: so the dir "foo" should be moved to "Foo/foo", right? |
| 08:43.18 | RandoMan70 | And don't wont atitude to chang anything about kernel and grub :-\ |
| 08:44.09 | crosswalk | sephii: The opposite actually. foo/bar/[[:upper:]]* should be moved to foo/bar/Uppercase. |
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| 08:46.30 | crosswalk | sephii: cthuluh told me about the ! operator, but I wasn't able to figure out how to use it with a mv command to ignore /foo/bar/Uppercase. |
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| 08:52.46 | sephii | crosswalk: maybe you could pipe your ls command to grep with the -v flag to exclude directories starting with an uppercase letter |
| 08:53.37 | sephii | crosswalk: you should also probably exclude directories starting with a number |
| 08:54.08 | somiaj | you could use find an only find files in the top level directory and not have to parse them |
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| 08:56.04 | lookout | hello. |
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| 08:56.47 | lookout | I am using squeeze but I want to install the testing version of gnome-vim. i think what i need to do is pinning to an testing package, is this how it works? |
| 08:57.05 | somiaj | lookout: no, never install testing packages on stable |
| 08:57.18 | somiaj | lookout: look into backports |
| 08:57.26 | rly | somiaj: but nobody ever backports anything. |
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| 08:58.05 | rly | somiaj: that is to say: the last 6 times I wanted a newer package, it wasn't available. |
| 08:58.17 | mjt | that's trolling |
| 08:58.26 | somiaj | rly: then backport your own package. /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 08:58.27 | rly | somiaj: also the 'backporting instructions' don't actually function. |
| 08:58.37 | rly | somiaj: I already did that. |
| 08:58.43 | rly | somiaj: it is _broken_. |
| 08:59.14 | rly | You should be able to just get a package via source and have it compile a stable version. |
| 08:59.26 | rly | It is not like _any_ of these packages require specific kernels. |
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| 08:59.41 | rly | It is a amateuristic mess; nothing else. |
| 08:59.44 | mjt | rly: stop trolling please |
| 08:59.56 | gentz_ | copy and pasting utf 8 chars into terminal doesn't work (the character doesn't show). I'm using konsole & utf8 is enabled. anyone know why? |
| 08:59.57 | rly | mjt: it is not trolling when it is correct. |
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| 09:00.40 | nezZario | k this is pissing me off |
| 09:00.41 | rly | mjt: go and look on the Internet for "Ubuntu sucks". (Since Ubuntu is a Debian derivative you will soon see that everyone agrees. ) |
| 09:00.48 | lookout | # aptitude -t squeeze-backports install gnome-vim << isnt able to find the pkg.. |
| 09:01.09 | nezZario | how can I get the socks5 bit of ssh to actually work for alias'd IP addresses? |
| 09:01.15 | somiaj | lookout: not every package is backported, if there isn't one you'll have to create it y oruself. |
| 09:01.15 | mjt | ,versions vim |
| 09:01.16 | judd | Package: vim on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.1.314-3+lenny2; squeeze: 2:7.2.445+hg~cb94c42c0e1a-1; sid: 2:7.3.363-1; wheezy: 2:7.3.363-1 |
| 09:01.30 | mjt | ,versions linux-image-2.6 |
| 09:01.30 | judd | No package named 'linux-image-2.6' was found in i386. |
| 09:01.32 | lookout | i want 2:7.3 |
| 09:01.42 | rly | somiaj: except... Debian uses some terribly retarted format for its packages. |
| 09:01.43 | mjt | ,versions udev |
| 09:01.44 | judd | Package: udev on i386 -- lenny-security: 0.125-7+lenny1; lenny: 0.125-7+lenny3; squeeze: 164-3; sid: 175-3; wheezy: 175-3 |
| 09:01.48 | rly | retarded* |
| 09:02.00 | lookout | well this sucks |
| 09:02.08 | lookout | id rather install from source instead |
| 09:02.13 | rly | See? |
| 09:02.23 | rly | Installing from source is easier than 'backporting'. |
| 09:02.27 | rly | What does this mean? |
| 09:02.30 | rly | This means the system sucks. |
| 09:02.32 | mjt | ,versions postfix |
| 09:02.33 | lookout | the system is broken |
| 09:02.34 | judd | Package: postfix on i386 -- lenny: 2.5.5-1.1+lenny1; lenny-security: 2.5.5-1.1+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.7.1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.8.3-1~bpo60+1; sid: 2.8.5-1.1; wheezy: 2.8.5-1.1 |
| 09:02.34 | somiaj | lookout: have you tried to follow the instructions form /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 09:02.40 | mjt | sigh |
| 09:02.44 | mjt | .ignore rly |
| 09:02.46 | mjt | er |
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| 09:02.55 | rly | mjt: sure ignore the truth :) |
| 09:03.03 | mjt | shouting is easier than thinking, that's for sure |
| 09:03.18 | rly | mjt: how many packages have you backported? |
| 09:03.33 | lookout | somiaj: it says "First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>." |
| 09:03.35 | rly | mjt: yes? |
| 09:03.48 | lookout | where is that supposed to be? packages.debian.org? |
| 09:03.50 | somiaj | lookout: and if you don't find one (which is where you are at) |
| 09:04.09 | rly | mjt: if 0, then, you are a funny person. If tons, then why are you comparing yourself to a user? |
| 09:04.12 | somiaj | lookout: if you search on packages.debian.org it will let you know if there is a version in squeeze-backports or you can goto backports.debian.org |
| 09:04.13 | mjt | lookout: btw, why do you need that particular version of vim? |
| 09:04.28 | rly | mjt: sure, go and play that angle. |
| 09:04.47 | rly | mjt: he wants to do something; do not question that. It is what? Retarded! |
| 09:04.54 | lookout | mjt: theres a plugin for vim to integrate with gdb |
| 09:04.59 | lookout | works with 7.3 and up |
| 09:05.11 | mjt | i see |
| 09:05.19 | lookout | yeah so this is a silly mess now |
| 09:05.21 | rly | I am sure that mjt already knows everything there is to know in the world. |
| 09:05.28 | lookout | somiaj: its not in backports.debian.org |
| 09:05.29 | somiaj | lookout: you will probabaly have to backport more than gnome-vim, might have to backport the whole vim package |
| 09:05.36 | lookout | thats lame |
| 09:05.48 | mjt | vim is not a package that needs backporting often, because it does not change much between versions, hence it is not backproted. but it should be easy to rebuild like dpkg says |
| 09:06.08 | rly | lookout: should be easy... it will just waste your time. |
| 09:06.13 | mjt | that's really vim package, not gnome-vim |
| 09:06.20 | somiaj | vim-gnome is a part of the vim source package anyways |
| 09:06.28 | lookout | rly: agreed. |
| 09:06.57 | rly | lookout: these people have no clue about wasting time by providing a broken system. |
| 09:07.05 | somiaj | lookout: ignore rly, backporting isn't all that difficult but as a binary distro it isn't as easy as typing in a single command. On a nice package should take a few commands to backport |
| 09:07.22 | rly | somiaj: and why is it not as easy as typing in a single command? |
| 09:07.25 | mjt | heh |
| 09:07.28 | rly | somiaj: there is no technical reason for why not. |
| 09:07.30 | lookout | somiaj: do you not see how this is breaking my work? |
| 09:07.42 | rly | somiaj: unless there is some kernel dependency. |
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| 09:07.57 | rly | Which in the very very very very large majority of cases there is not. |
| 09:07.58 | mjt | now that is an argument ;) |
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| 09:09.08 | rly | Even if you had to switch kernels, it would _still_ not be an excuse for it to require more than one command. |
| 09:09.15 | somiaj | lookout: what? If you want a new version of vim, backport the whole vim package. Its not that hard despite what the troll is saying. |
| 09:09.28 | rly | It is just that Debian people are likely 'system administrators' which have no imagination. |
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| 09:10.06 | rly | somiaj: not that hard? How much time do you think that costs? |
| 09:10.12 | sephii | somiaj: if vim-gtk has dependencies on gtk libraries (which is the case I think) that might be harder |
| 09:10.14 | rly | somiaj: 1 hour? 2? 8? |
| 09:10.15 | ew0x | rly: Definitely. Imagination is what sysadmins need. Reliability is so 80's. |
| 09:10.21 | mjt | i suppose this is about clevm (http://clewn.sourceforge.net/) |
| 09:10.34 | rly | ew0x: uhm, the software in Debian is not robust by any measure. |
| 09:10.48 | ew0x | rly: Authoritative argument here ? |
| 09:10.50 | mjt | in wich case just grab not the latest verson |
| 09:10.53 | ew0x | rly: Based on what |
| 09:11.01 | Delaya | anyone know how to skip to the end of the reverse search in terminal? |
| 09:11.06 | rly | ew0x: based on experience. |
| 09:11.12 | ew0x | rly: Obviously not. |
| 09:11.17 | rly | ew0x: almost all software ships with bugs in Debian. |
| 09:11.30 | rly | ew0x: so by definition it is already impossible to get robustness. |
| 09:11.33 | ew0x | rly: If backporting is out of your grasp, don't, if it is, stop complaining, that's that simple |
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| 09:11.40 | nezZario | this is really bugging me... |
| 09:12.01 | rly | ew0x: you are really not getting it, are you? |
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| 09:12.20 | ew0x | rly: I'm done feeding the troll, anyway ;) |
| 09:12.23 | mjt | lookout: which plugin is that? clevn? |
| 09:12.29 | nezZario | for example... |
| 09:12.38 | rly | I think if you are going to count the number of backported packages by users (not people paid to do it), you will reach perhaps one 1000. |
| 09:12.43 | nezZario | ssh -g -D 192.168.1.2:1080 -b 192.168.0.2 root@192.168.0.2 |
| 09:12.51 | rly | If you look at other package formats, you will see much higher numbers. |
| 09:12.54 | rly | Why is that? |
| 09:12.58 | nezZario | it doesn't matter what I put |
| 09:13.03 | rly | Perhaps because the toolchain sucks? |
| 09:13.09 | nezZario | it ALWAYS shows my originating IP as 192.168.0.1 |
| 09:13.15 | nezZario | not 0.2 .. |
| 09:13.17 | jelly-home | rly: what's your point |
| 09:13.30 | mjt | folks please stop feeding the troll |
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| 09:13.38 | rly | jelly-home: the point is that expecting people to 'backport' things is not realistic. |
| 09:13.48 | mjt | he needs to calm down before he's able to think again |
| 09:13.50 | rly | jelly-home: because we see that it doesn't happen for some reason. |
| 09:14.00 | sephii | if he's able to think at all |
| 09:14.14 | jelly-home | rly: we're not expecting it, but may point them how to do it if they really have to |
| 09:14.18 | rly | sephii: oh, I have no doubt that I have superior education to all of you. |
| 09:14.18 | mjt | nezZario: do you have .2 on your machine? |
| 09:14.28 | chrissbx | Hello. Does anyone know a way to issue some kind of reset to the running X server? I've run mplayer over ssh and that made X stop displaying anything except the mouse cursor. |
| 09:14.39 | jelly-home | rly: move this to #debian-offtopic if you want to continue |
| 09:14.41 | chrissbx | (Doesn't even seem to take inputs anymore) |
| 09:14.52 | somiaj | chrissbx: you can kill the process, use top/ps to find the pid |
| 09:14.56 | chrissbx | (Although I can still start new apps remotely) |
| 09:14.59 | mjt | chrissbx: try to kill the mplayer process |
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| 09:15.06 | lookout | mjt: pyclewn |
| 09:15.08 | chrissbx | somiaj: I don't want to kill it, too many things open |
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| 09:15.16 | chrissbx | mjt: exited it normally |
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| 09:15.30 | somiaj | chrissbx: then hopefully its just mplayer acting buggy and you can kill that |
| 09:15.39 | chrissbx | no, mplayer isn't running anymore. |
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| 09:16.22 | somiaj | chrissbx: what is y our window manager? Maybe you can send it a restart signal |
| 09:16.22 | chrissbx | I can even go to text consoles and then back to the console where Xorg is running, still doesn't revive anything other than the mouse cursor on a black background. |
| 09:16.35 | chrissbx | The gnome one (metacity iirc) |
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| 09:18.19 | mjt | lookout: um, can't say anything about it. it mentions "vim version 7.0 or above" so should work even on lenny |
| 09:18.33 | lookout | http://pyclewn.sourceforge.net/ |
| 09:18.45 | mjt | yeah |
| 09:18.57 | lookout | a little higher it says 7.3 |
| 09:19.21 | mjt | aha, "Note" i see |
| 09:19.26 | chrissbx | Hm, it's all weird, Alt-f6 will turn the mouse cursor into the 'cross hair' alike (4 arrows) symbol to move windows as usual, just that it's all black background. |
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| 09:19.53 | chrissbx | But Alt-f4 will go to text console 4 instead of closing a (invisible9window |
| 09:19.56 | mjt | lookout: it mentions that it only works in _terminal_ (in plain vim) since 7.3 |
| 09:19.59 | chrissbx | But Alt-f4 will go to text console 4 instead of closing an (invisible) window |
| 09:20.06 | somiaj | have you check the xorg log or stderr for your xserver, maybe your gpu driver crashed |
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| 09:20.37 | mjt | lookout: but you asked about gnome-vim which is not a "plain vim", which hopefully should just work with 7.2 |
| 09:20.55 | chrissbx | Hm, /var/log/Xorg.0.log has current mtime which means it contains messages from the time after mplayer. |
| 09:21.25 | chrissbx | but just modeline information messages |
| 09:21.38 | mjt | lookout: see the requiriments -- "vim in a terminal (vim 7.3 or above required), gvim" |
| 09:21.42 | chrissbx | well, one is (EE) (unnamed): failed to initialize for relative axes. |
| 09:22.23 | chrissbx | That's actually the onle EE message in the whole file. |
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| 09:25.48 | chrissbx | DISPLAY=:0 xrefresh (neither with -white) doesn't do anything either |
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| 09:26.05 | chrissbx | I guess I'll have to restart it. |
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| 09:27.55 | chrissbx | k, did a /etc/init.d/gdm restart (which worked as expected) |
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| 09:29.28 | spal | what's the recommended file system type: ext3 or ext4? |
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| 09:30.04 | mavez | ext5 |
| 09:30.09 | chrissbx | mplayer breaks it again. This time it stopped moving the mouse cursor and doesn't change virtual consoles anymore. |
| 09:30.30 | chrissbx | Anyway, means I'll have to wrap mplayer to disable framebuffer mode. |
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| 09:31.52 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 09:31.55 | mavez | hi |
| 09:32.05 | chrissbx | X did not write anything to its log in this case (I guess log msgs were from console switching). |
| 09:32.29 | gypsymauro | there is a way to split virtually the display in two areas? |
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| 09:32.46 | koshie_ | Hello |
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| 09:33.16 | mjt | chrissbx: framebuffer mode? does it use that mode by default in your case? |
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| 09:33.30 | chrissbx | mjt: only because I ssh'ed in without X |
| 09:34.04 | chrissbx | mjt: I ran mplayer in an ssh session to my desktop instead in a local session on my laptop accidentally. And that broke my desktop's X :) |
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| 09:34.44 | chrissbx | If mplayer can't use X, it will try other stuff like framebuffer. |
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| 09:35.21 | mjt | chrissbx: but it shouldn't be allowed to open framebuffer in this case unless you run it as root |
| 09:35.39 | chrissbx | I didn't; checking. |
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| 09:38.12 | chrissbx | well, it *does* say VO: [fbdev] 658x480 => 658x480 BGRA |
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| 09:38.44 | chrissbx | The user in question is member of the video group. Maybe that suffices? |
| 09:39.07 | mjt | yeah it is |
| 09:39.11 | mjt | crw-rw---T 1 root video 29, 0 Дек 12 15:52 /dev/fb0 |
| 09:39.24 | chrissbx | yep, ok. |
| 09:39.50 | chrissbx | And it does need to be member of video for efficient video playing in X, too, unless I'm mistaken. |
| 09:40.27 | chrissbx | mjt: btw, I don't have the T flag on that device file. |
| 09:40.33 | chrissbx | In neither of my machines. |
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| 09:40.51 | chrissbx | Not sure what it would do on a file though? |
| 09:40.51 | mjt | for that i'm not sure really, i think its' all done without privileges nowadaya. it used to require access to stuff like /dev/rtc or /dev/hpet for realtime timers |
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| 09:41.43 | chrissbx | Maybe it was opengl. At least for that you need to be member of video or it will use (sloooow) software rendering. |
| 09:42.16 | chrissbx | And Debian makes your first user member of video by default, afaik. |
| 09:43.22 | mjt | crw-rw---T is 1660 octal |
| 09:43.32 | mjt | that doesn't really matter for permission model |
| 09:43.36 | kmmndr | hi all :-) |
| 09:43.50 | kmmndr | I've a debian box serving our network |
| 09:44.05 | chrissbx | mjt: I think that's the directory sticky flag, don't know what it does on files or devices. |
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| 09:44.16 | mjt | exactly :) |
| 09:44.17 | chrissbx | Could be that nothing, yes. |
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| 09:44.40 | kmmndr | I'd like to add static entries for some slow replying websites in our DNS (bind) |
| 09:44.44 | kmmndr | is it possible ? |
| 09:45.02 | mjt | kmmndr: don't do that, you'll have more issues with that than it solves |
| 09:45.09 | cantido | kmmndr: why not just have a dnscache for everything? |
| 09:45.14 | tuxcrafter | update-rc.d pacemaker defaults > update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
| 09:45.35 | tuxcrafter | how do i add /etc/init.d/pacemaker to startup |
| 09:45.53 | mjt | and "slow replying websites" has nothing to do with dns really :) |
| 09:46.00 | tuxcrafter | /etc/debian_version > 6.0.4 |
| 09:46.03 | tuxcrafter | /etc/debian_version > 6.0.3! |
| 09:46.09 | somiaj | tuxcrafter: did you use update-rc.d -- check to see if the links are put in /etc/rc2.d (and various other run levels) |
| 09:46.11 | cantido | mjt: does if the dns look up is the slow part |
| 09:46.25 | cantido | mjt: the os/browser should be doing dns caching anyhow |
| 09:46.39 | mjt | cantido: it is "slow replying dns" not website |
| 09:46.52 | mjt | (being pedantic) |
| 09:47.17 | mjt | os does not do dns caching by default |
| 09:47.21 | cantido | mjt: what is the first thing that happens when you navigate to a site via a dns name? |
| 09:47.25 | cantido | mjt: libc does cache |
| 09:47.34 | tuxcrafter | somiaj: i tried update-rc.d but it keeps returining update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
| 09:47.41 | mjt | cantido: website is a web server replying to http requests |
| 09:48.08 | mjt | cantido: it is like saying that your car is slow because it needs time to fill the tank with gasoline |
| 09:48.18 | kmmndr | that's to "overload" some dns replies, to force usage of our local smtp too |
| 09:48.21 | chrissbx | cantido: are you suure that libc caches dns? |
| 09:48.32 | mjt | chrissbx: it doesnt |
| 09:48.32 | somiaj | tuxcrafter: why do you think that means it fails? did you check /etc/rc2.d or 'ls /etc/rc?.d' and see if the links were put in |
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| 09:48.55 | mjt | chrissbx: but some browsers does |
| 09:49.03 | tuxcrafter | somiaj: no links where created |
| 09:49.09 | tuxcrafter | ls -hal /etc/rc*.d/ | grep pacemaker |
| 09:49.11 | tuxcrafter | nothing there |
| 09:49.17 | chrissbx | Yeah, tell that cantido. |
| 09:49.20 | cantido | mjt: most browsers have their own dns cache |
| 09:49.24 | somiaj | tuxcrafter: where did this init.d script come from, does it have the LSB headers? |
| 09:49.29 | cantido | chrissbx: I'm pretty sure I read that libc does |
| 09:49.38 | mjt | heh |
| 09:49.39 | cantido | chrissbx: go and google it instead of being an arse |
| 09:49.40 | somiaj | tuxcrafter: what is the exact command you typed in. |
| 09:49.41 | chrissbx | cantido: fight with mjt |
| 09:49.52 | kmmndr | cantido: and if a want to add static entries in bind cache, is it possible ? |
| 09:50.00 | chrissbx | cantido: an arse? |
| 09:50.10 | tuxcrafter | somiaj: pacemaker package from squeeze-backports |
| 09:50.16 | mah454 | I run lvdisplay in livecd . and for example show : /dev/Vol_Group/lv_root |
| 09:50.23 | tuxcrafter | command used: update-rc.d pacemaker defaults |
| 09:50.24 | cantido | kmmndr: dont do it, running a dns cache, bind can do that |
| 09:50.28 | mah454 | but i have not this file in /dev ! |
| 09:50.52 | tuxcrafter | it has the correct lsb headers |
| 09:50.53 | tuxcrafter | even # Required-Start: $network corosync |
| 09:50.58 | tuxcrafter | and that is good |
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| 09:52.12 | chrissbx | cantido: give me a reference, please |
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| 09:53.00 | cantido | chrissbx: I could be wrong.. but why use the language "go tell that to blah" .. wtf is that about |
| 09:53.10 | sephii | what are you guys using to backup your workstation? |
| 09:53.12 | tuxcrafter | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/149711/ |
| 09:53.23 | somiaj | tuxcrafter: could there be a missing dependency in the Required-Start field. I cannot think of a reason why it shoudln't be working |
| 09:53.51 | somiaj | oh its default-start/default-stop is empty |
| 09:53.54 | somiaj | so there are no defaults to use |
| 09:54.29 | tuxcrafter | hmss |
| 09:54.31 | tuxcrafter | adding # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 |
| 09:54.31 | tuxcrafter | # Default-Stop: 0 1 6 |
| 09:54.36 | somiaj | # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 and # Default-Stop: 0 1 6 |
| 09:55.19 | tuxcrafter | somiaj: thanks! |
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| 09:55.29 | chrissbx | cantido: doubting is not being an arse. It's more asocial to make bogus claims. Even more so, if you then tell "go google it" even if you know you're not sure yourself. |
| 09:55.33 | tuxcrafter | i addeded them then run the update-rc.d command |
| 09:55.54 | chrissbx | cantido: that's like shifting work to other people and lying at the same time. |
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| 09:56.32 | cantido | chrissbx: asocial to make bogus claims.. wtf are you on? |
| 09:57.23 | cantido | the stub resolved is apparently non-caching, although I'm sure I saw something different about that |
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| 09:58.51 | mjt | how about just looking into sources? :) |
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| 09:59.08 | mjt | the stub resolver in glibc does no caching |
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| 09:59.35 | cantido | apparently, the resolver state is cached |
| 09:59.37 | mjt | there's nscd which may be used as a cache for all nss lookups |
| 09:59.54 | mjt | the content of /etc/resolv.conf is cached, yes |
| 09:59.59 | tziOm | whats the thing with bridge and eth having same hwaddr and the "br0: received packet on eth0 with own address as source address" messages? |
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| 10:00.35 | cantido | most browsers have a cache that ignore TTL anyhow |
| 10:00.44 | mjt | tziOm: was it you who had this issue yesterday? |
| 10:00.52 | tziOm | no |
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| 10:01.17 | mjt | cantido: that's too loud a statement. how about filing bugs for all that so it gets fixed? |
| 10:02.08 | tziOm | I have this config: http://pastebin.com/mefy1hzs |
| 10:02.17 | cantido | mjt: eh, its present in a lot of browsers.. you cant fix closed browsers like ie6 |
| 10:02.41 | mjt | cantido: so prove it at least |
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| 10:03.07 | cantido | mjt: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ie6%20dns%20cache%20ignore%20s%20ttl&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cs.st-andrews.ac.uk%2F~saleem%2Fpapers%2F2011%2Fgi2011%2Fgi2011-ba2011.pdf&ei=TV3wTsr0JOfImQXC1vSHAg&usg=AFQjCNEyCXLhaIILwl8km0RKSwAl1T9RbA |
| 10:03.21 | cantido | Firefox6: Firefox has a DNS cache which ignores TTL |
| 10:04.53 | mjt | tziOm: i think your system should complain about incomplete eth0 configuration |
| 10:05.34 | mjt | cantido: that does not match the reality (maybe for some older version) - i know because our network uses short ttl for some internal sites which i can move from one machine to another and firefox follows the move just fine |
| 10:06.24 | mjt | tziOm: what's your kernel version? |
| 10:06.25 | cantido | mjt: I think IE still ignores TTL and keeps everything for 30 minutes |
| 10:06.50 | mjt | cantido: that might be true, i dunno, i hasn't used ie for some 10 years |
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| 10:08.21 | cantido | mjt: maybe so,.. but its not a "loud statement" its a truth |
| 10:08.49 | tziOm | mjt: 3.0.9 |
| 10:09.06 | tziOm | mjt: why incomplete eth0? |
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| 10:11.22 | mjt | cantido: if by "most browsers" you mean just one IE when yes |
| 10:12.02 | mjt | i interpret this in a context of this channel, like "most browsers available in debian" :) |
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| 10:12.40 | cantido | some isps also ignore TTL and rewrite NX records.. OMG |
| 10:12.54 | mjt | NX records? |
| 10:13.16 | mjt | maybe you mean NXDOMAIN replies ? |
| 10:13.55 | cantido | s/records/responses/ |
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| 10:16.46 | balboah | anyone got a suggestion for a fix to this problem with dump? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27983600 or a hint on where to look |
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| 10:30.50 | cantido | wonders when the emdebian arm cross toolchain will work in testing again :/ |
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| 10:48.45 | lorenzosu | Anyone have some idea on how to debug impossibility to connect to ftps server? |
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| 10:50.00 | cantido | lorenzosu: tcpdump |
| 10:50.22 | themill | dpkg: tell lorenzosu about ssh debug |
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| 10:51.01 | lorenzosu | themill: I try using vvv but all I get is ssh hanging.. with not so clear messages |
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| 10:51.35 | themill | try putting them in a pastebin so others can help |
| 10:51.50 | lorenzosu | cantido: ok looking into that... the server provider only has instructions with gui client (which work) but if I try with ssh or sftp nothing |
| 10:51.58 | lorenzosu | themill: sure. |
| 10:52.04 | themill | lorenzosu: oh.. what are these instructions? |
| 10:52.30 | cantido | lorenzosu: ftps is different to ssh,sftp IIRC |
| 10:52.41 | lorenzosu | themill: can I paste the link here? |
| 10:52.45 | cantido | lorenzosu: ftps is ftp + SSL or TLS I thought |
| 10:53.06 | themill | lorenzosu: hang on... are you talking about ftps or sftp? I misread what you originally said as sftp. |
| 10:53.47 | lorenzosu | themill: sorry I wasn't clear I'm trying to use sftp (the command) to connect to ftps... I guess it's using ssh which also fails on me |
| 10:54.41 | themill | lorenzosu: as cantido pointed out, sftp != ftps. If you have instructions on how to use ftps, then you need an ftps client, not an sftp client. |
| 10:54.41 | lorenzosu | cantido: I can usually just ssh and then sshfs on servers with ftps... but in this case the thing just hanfs |
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| 10:54.54 | lorenzosu | themill: oh I see |
| 10:55.08 | lorenzosu | themill: ok I see.. banging my head now |
| 10:55.25 | lorenzosu | themill: I think this is definitely ftps (they mention filezilla) |
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| 10:56.00 | themill | well, filezilla can handle sftp too, just to add to the fun, but it sounds like you really want an ftps client not an sftp client. |
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| 10:56.40 | lorenzosu | themill: yes. |
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| 10:57.21 | lorenzosu | themill: how about *mounting* it? |
| 10:57.40 | cantido | lorenzosu: an FTP fs for fuse might support FTPS |
| 10:57.53 | jelly | curlftpfs perhaps |
| 10:57.53 | cantido | its basically the same thing, just over SSL |
| 10:57.56 | lorenzosu | maybe curlftpfs |
| 10:58.15 | lorenzosu | fact is curlftpfs seems alsways slowisgh |
| 10:58.19 | jelly | I found curlftpfs to be even less reliable than sshfs |
| 10:58.34 | lorenzosu | but maybe I didn't dig enough into the configuration |
| 10:58.49 | lorenzosu | I wish they got some at least VPS for this project sigh |
| 10:58.52 | jelly | but it wsa fun to mount .iso images from remote mirrors without downloading the whole thing |
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| 10:59.19 | lorenzosu | jelly: curlftpfs works here... only it seems much slower than say sshfs |
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| 11:00.37 | lorenzosu | just to make things more fun this provider uses an '@' in the user name |
| 11:00.58 | cantido | mm is that a problem? |
| 11:01.10 | cantido | I've had logins that are email addresses before IIRC |
| 11:01.12 | lorenzosu | cantido: with some clients |
| 11:01.26 | cantido | always uses lftp |
| 11:01.28 | jelly | ftp://user%40name@host/ |
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| 11:01.39 | cantido | I havent used ftp in.. a very long time |
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| 11:01.59 | jelly | also fun: DOMAIN\username in IMAP URLs |
| 11:03.50 | lorenzosu | looking into lftp |
| 11:04.51 | jelly | lorenzosu: curlftpfs saturates my 100Mbps easily (with normal ftp, no ssl) |
| 11:05.05 | jelly | avg.rate: 9267kB/s |
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| 11:06.28 | Gorilla_No_Baka | hello everyone |
| 11:07.12 | cantido | gorilla no chinko would be better IMHO |
| 11:07.44 | Gorilla_No_Baka | well unless you speak japanese.. your opinion holds no water :) |
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| 11:08.10 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: そうか |
| 11:08.29 | Gorilla_No_Baka | hontoni? |
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| 11:08.48 | cantido | yes |
| 11:09.29 | lorenzosu | cantido: do you have any idea what 'ls' at 0 [FEAT negotiation...]' from lftp means? |
| 11:09.30 | cantido | notes that the jp mirror moved everything randomly or changed a fews ago.. that was annoying |
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| 11:09.43 | cantido | lorenzosu: I have a felling that means "still trying to connect" heh |
| 11:10.05 | cantido | lorenzosu: there are two types of FTPS from what I remember, SSL and TLS, you need the right one |
| 11:10.21 | jelly | !ping |
| 11:10.21 | dpkg | Sorry jelly, you're not online. |
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| 11:11.25 | lorenzosu | the provider's 'guide' says 'FTPS- FTP over implicit TLS/SSL' |
| 11:11.30 | cantido | according to wikipedia that is the case.. if it tries connecting with SSL and the server is not expecting it.. the server will get confused |
| 11:11.34 | Gorilla_No_Baka | cantido: what's wrong with the Gorilla_No_Baka ? is it incorrect from gramatical point of view or something? |
| 11:12.28 | cornelinux | How do I list the changelog of an installed or a not installed deb package? |
| 11:12.30 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: baka is just one of those things people that know 3 japanese words seem to use way too frequently |
| 11:13.30 | cantido | On that subject, why does imbus+anthy (maybe other input methods) take so long to activate? |
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| 11:14.10 | Gorilla_No_Baka | cantido: fair enough |
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| 11:18.22 | Gorilla_No_Baka | anyway.. back to you cantido :)) since you're obviulsy sucha smart ass and you've called me a knobhead :)) have you got any ideas on how can get the touchpad of a mac 8,1 early 2000 to work ? |
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| 11:19.13 | no_gravity | Good Morning from Germany! |
| 11:19.34 | no_gravity | Do you guys know if there is an easy way to tunnel all my network traffic through another machine via ssh? |
| 11:19.37 | Gorilla_No_Baka | no_gravity: g'morning from UK |
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| 11:20.36 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: I didnt call you a knob head haha,.. touchpad is probably supported by the synaptics driver |
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| 11:20.48 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: unless its some old ppc thing? |
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| 11:21.17 | cantido | no_gravity: SSH can do TCP port forward, and it has a SOCKs proxy IIRC |
| 11:21.47 | Gorilla_No_Baka | from chinko to knobhead.. not much.. :) |
| 11:22.18 | cantido | knobhead is pretty British |
| 11:22.23 | Gorilla_No_Baka | on ubuntu there would be synaptics_1.2.2-2ubuntu5-mactel1_amd64.deb .. any equivalent for debian? |
| 11:22.26 | cantido | I dont think it translates hah |
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| 11:22.45 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: its xorg-input-synaptics or something similar |
| 11:22.47 | Gorilla_No_Baka | cantido: i am not british.. just living here |
| 11:23.00 | cantido | is british not living there haha |
| 11:23.14 | Gorilla_No_Baka | yeah.. you're ip looks quite japanese |
| 11:23.27 | ecolitan | how can I add a script to sysctl so I can manage it with sysv-rc-conf ? |
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| 11:24.24 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: from what I can tell.. I had a 2002 or something macbook, all the x86 mac laptops are ALPS pads that work with the synaptics driver |
| 11:24.39 | no_gravity | cantido: so i would do "ssh -D 123 myothermachine" and then use 127.0.0.1:123 as a proxy in applications like firefox? |
| 11:24.50 | lorenzosu | mhh looks like i'm stuck with plain ftp or filezilla :( |
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| 11:25.17 | cantido | no_gravity: yes, I think it works like that.. I've used the socks proxy. you can also install a http proxy on the other host and tunnel the proxy connection |
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| 11:25.44 | cantido | no_gravity: s/i've used/i've never used/ |
| 11:25.52 | Gorilla_No_Baka | bollock.. .. Gorilla's dick .. that's the closest translation... regarding the macs.. i have a64 bits thngy.. (1500 pounds mistake) i have installed debian several times on it.. and i had to give up because of the touchpad issues ( right click drag and drop .. the whole shebag) |
| 11:26.20 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: did you upgrade OSX on it first? |
| 11:26.22 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 11:26.34 | lorenzosu | i wonder if one could capture the commands filezilla is using... |
| 11:26.38 | Gorilla_No_Baka | i am running lion.. |
| 11:26.40 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: my keyboard was broken in debian until I installed on the OSX updates to update some firmware crap |
| 11:26.54 | cantido | s/on the/all the/ |
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| 11:27.21 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: do you mean its over sensitiveness? |
| 11:27.25 | brbrbr | weird. got similar issue with "IOMMU" option in mobo Setup :p |
| 11:27.26 | n_np | hello, how can you disable the debian sources so that i can install hp printer thing? |
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| 11:27.45 | Gorilla_No_Baka | no .. i mean i can not drag and drop .. and i can not use it for a right click.. |
| 11:27.51 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: I found that it clicked if you typed.. osx has some thing to disable the pad when they keyboard is in use |
| 11:27.54 | no_gravity | cantido: hmm...ok. but then i would have to set up a proxy in each and every application and hope it works. i hoped something would work by setting up a default gateway. |
| 11:28.03 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: ah, you need to setup a region to use as a right mouse button |
| 11:28.21 | n_np | hello, how do you disable debian sources/repository? |
| 11:28.22 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: look at the synaptics config about it. you can do 2 finger click for right etc |
| 11:28.28 | tziOm | is it normal with ftp to use multiple data connections to upload a _single_ file? |
| 11:28.45 | cantido | no_gravity: openvpn |
| 11:28.59 | babilen | n_np: You would comment/remove their "deb-src" lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and run "apt-get update" |
| 11:29.06 | n_np | thanks |
| 11:29.14 | brbrbr | btw, i got problem with PERSISTENT very-high disk load. CPU and memory utilisation below 10%, in active processes only things like "watchdog", "ksoftirqd", "migration", "kthreadd" |
| 11:29.22 | cantido | no_gravity: its basically a vpn made out of OpenSSL, so the same stuff as openssh |
| 11:29.44 | babilen | n_np: But I don't quite see how this would be related to the "hp printer thing" |
| 11:29.58 | n_np | babilen, it says it cant be enabled to install it |
| 11:30.09 | n_np | babilen, how do you unlock the apt thingy? |
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| 11:30.12 | cantido | tziOm: ftp uses multiple connections |
| 11:30.17 | babilen | n_np: Where does "it" say that? |
| 11:30.24 | no_gravity | cantido: well, thanks. will google more about it later in the day. |
| 11:30.26 | n_np | i was running synaptic earlier and it didnt unlock the file |
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| 11:30.42 | n_np | \error: No output seen in over 300 sec... (Is the CD-ROM/DVD source repository enabled? It shouldn't be!) |
| 11:30.58 | cantido | no_gravity: its a bit of pain to setup.. but it will work how you want, i.e. set the default gateway and all the traffic will route over the vpn |
| 11:30.59 | n_np | thats the error i got |
| 11:31.01 | tziOm | cantido: yes, but for a single file as well? |
| 11:31.04 | Gorilla_No_Baka | I WILL.. i will have to install it again.. at the moment ., ubuntu offers a helluva good support for mac... but since i hate unity and gnome 3 i have to be very creative.. install gnome-shell put it in fallback mode and then clean the whole crap.. look here http://pastebin.com/5GLvX31K |
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| 11:31.10 | n_np | babilen, how do you unlock the dpkg thing manually? |
| 11:31.20 | cantido | tziOm: ftp uses two connections unless its in passive mode IIRC |
| 11:31.44 | trist4n | connection portu and data portu |
| 11:31.51 | babilen | n_np: Which command gives you that output? Could you paste your sources.list, the complete command and output to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 11:31.54 | tziOm | cantido: yes, but can it use 3 connections to upload the same file at the same time? |
| 11:32.02 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: A USB mouse would work too ;) |
| 11:32.02 | tziOm | 3 data connections. |
| 11:32.12 | Gorilla_No_Baka | it's a pain.. .. i was thinking to go back to debian.. and half of my problems would be solved.. |
| 11:32.28 | Gorilla_No_Baka | i know.. but since a laptop is a laptop.. you know.. |
| 11:32.31 | cantido | tziOm: I dont think so, some clients open multiple connections for multiple files |
| 11:32.53 | brbrbr | hell, with new xorg, even FIVE usb-mices would work :P |
| 11:33.00 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: I found the biggest problem being the bootloader.. once I just dumped OSX it was a lot easier |
| 11:33.05 | tziOm | cantido: Thats what I have to find out then, because this guy has multiple connections for the same file, is that allowed? |
| 11:33.12 | n_np | babilen dont worry about it |
| 11:33.28 | n_np | i just need to know how to unlock the packages now that synaptic has locked |
| 11:33.33 | babilen | n_np: I don't, but you obviously do :) |
| 11:33.37 | cantido | tziOm: maybe the client is doing some resume trick to download multiple sections.. you should be able to stop that in your ftpd config |
| 11:33.42 | Gorilla_No_Baka | i have no problems with the bootloader.. scre the approved bootloader.. if i press alt.. it gives me the option to.. boot whatever i want |
| 11:33.52 | n_np | im going to have to restart then |
| 11:33.53 | n_np | bye |
| 11:33.55 | cantido | tziOm: i.e. only allow one login at a time |
| 11:33.57 | Gorilla_No_Baka | but yeah i see what you mean.. |
| 11:34.17 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: I used Refit to start with.. and I couldnt get it to boot grub |
| 11:34.21 | Gorilla_No_Baka | the problem is debian is gonna move on to the gnome3 as well |
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| 11:34.25 | Gorilla_No_Baka | refit is nice.. |
| 11:34.26 | tziOm | I know.. I just wonderee.d |
| 11:34.28 | Gorilla_No_Baka | and easy |
| 11:34.31 | cantido | Gorilla_No_Baka: so I wiped the whole disk and installed grub into the MBR.. no issues |
| 11:34.45 | cantido | that macbook died by a pint of cider though |
| 11:34.46 | babilen | n_np: I am not quite sure what you mean by "synaptic has locked" -- I guess that you still have a package manager running that holds /var/lib/dpkg/lock -- but meh. |
| 11:34.57 | brbrbr | yeah, Gnome3 is problem, and Miguel is problem, as well as Microsoft/Mono, which drives him nuts |
| 11:35.11 | Gorilla_No_Baka | :) i made a small 40 GB partition for os x and the rest went for linux.. |
| 11:35.45 | cantido | will buy generic x86 laptops from now on |
| 11:37.14 | Gorilla_No_Baka | says : hell yeah.. my biggest mistake.. 1500 squid of a mistake ... "the most advanced OS ever my hairy arse"" |
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| 11:39.24 | lorenzosu | mhh some progress now I get a certificate error |
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| 11:40.13 | brbrbr | hi |
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| 11:40.16 | fly_80 | i installed the package mingw-w64 to enable a cross-compiling environment, but in the folder /usr/bin/ there is an amd64-mingw32msvc-gcc but not md64-mingw32msvc-g++, should I reinstall it with a new configuration? |
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| 11:40.46 | fly_80 | or maybe just install some related package with g++ cross compiler? |
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| 11:46.25 | remoteCTRL | erm... |
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| 11:47.06 | remoteCTRL | i was forcefully disconnected, and then it says debian channel is now invitation only... i suppose i did nothing wrong but we had some script-kiddie wars in here? |
| 11:48.05 | lstarnes | remoteCTRL: I didn't see anything like that |
| 11:48.51 | lorenzosu | cantido: managed to login with lftp by doing set ssl:verify-certificate no |
| 11:49.14 | brbrbr | more likely throttling 4 some reasons |
| 11:49.32 | brbrbr | like services abuse by hosts from you sub-net or something similar |
| 11:50.07 | brbrbr | for exampe if you reconnect TOO FAST and frequent |
| 11:50.20 | remoteCTRL | lstarnes: (01:47:28 PM) The account has disconnected and you are no longer in this chat. You will be automatically rejoined in the chat when the account reconnects. |
| 11:50.24 | brbrbr | and/or use away broadcasting, or spaw and etc |
| 11:50.27 | lorenzosu | could i use lftp (maybe with the mirror) to mount the ftps? |
| 11:50.38 | remoteCTRL | lstarnes: and then i have a few popups that state #debian is invitation only... |
| 11:51.04 | remoteCTRL | lstarnes: never mind it is probably days ago... |
| 11:51.25 | cantido | lorenzosu: not lftp .. but it seems you found the issue |
| 11:51.33 | cantido | lorenzosu: its probably a self-signed cert |
| 11:51.53 | lorenzosu | cantido: yes... but i'm not sure how to go about with curlftpfs |
| 11:52.00 | lorenzosu | nor i love it :| |
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| 11:52.21 | lorenzosu | cantido: with lftp is it possible to do something like vim file_on_server? |
| 11:52.25 | lazzurs | Hello, just noticed that the Debian lenny amd64 installer is broken |
| 11:52.57 | lazzurs | it is failing on verifying the package signatures |
| 11:53.34 | lazzurs | checked on two different mirrors (ftp.heanet.ie and mirror.sov.uk.goscomb.net) |
| 11:54.49 | lazzurs | is there any way I can turn off package signature verification in the debian installer until this gets fixed? |
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| 11:55.37 | cantido | lorenzosu: not sure |
| 11:55.44 | brbrbr | lazzurs weird. never had such issues with Lenny |
| 11:56.06 | lazzurs | noticed that there was a major update in October (new release?) not had a problem before then |
| 11:56.50 | lazzurs | just noticed now as this is must have been the first customer requested install since then |
| 11:57.07 | brbrbr | you use network installer/repo ? maybe you traffic simply malformed by ISP/feds with malware injections into binaries ?[they can do it "on the fly"] |
| 11:57.24 | lorenzosu | cantido: it seems one needs a plugin.. but mirroring seems very interesting |
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| 11:57.25 | brbrbr | oh, its 6.0.3-specific ? |
| 11:57.53 | lazzurs | brbrbr: nah, we are the ISP and have direct peering with one mirror and peering with the other through LINX |
| 11:57.53 | lorenzosu | cantido: if I read correctly I could have a local dir sync with the ftp? |
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| 11:58.23 | cantido | lorenzosu: I think so, I dont use ftp/lftp enough to tell you TBH |
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| 11:58.41 | lorenzosu | ok thanks anyway ;) |
| 11:58.49 | brbrbr | there were nothing "direct" in ISP-world after 1996, where secret policies of twenty countries signed secret agreements about Internet domination |
| 11:59.13 | brbrbr | so they can thwart even magistral/transcontinental traffic |
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| 12:00.00 | lazzurs | brbrbr: thanks for the suggestion but I don't think it is corruption of the traffic |
| 12:00.05 | brbrbr | also you can have bootkit in mobo BIOS or in you hdd mbr |
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| 12:00.28 | brbrbr | ok, google for debian installer cheatcodes to turn off verification |
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| 12:05.54 | fly_80 | how can I install the unstable package gcc-mingw-w64 in squeeze? |
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| 12:12.06 | Stava | Is there any reason not to generate all locales? I'm doing "dpkg-reconfigure locales" |
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| 12:17.40 | Stava | Im going to host a multi-language website (magento specifically), and I suppose the system locales will be used to determine number formatting and such |
| 12:18.20 | engla | generating locales is very sloww |
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| 12:18.33 | Stava | but it only needs to be done once, right? |
| 12:18.34 | hp2510p | hi |
| 12:18.35 | cantido | engla: are you generating all of them? |
| 12:18.42 | cantido | engla: there is a locales-all package |
| 12:18.45 | Stava | cantido: I am |
| 12:18.56 | engla | Stava: once in a while, upgrades will trigger it again |
| 12:18.59 | hp2510p | how can I change the region for my keymap? I have for some reason got a uk layout and I want a US one |
| 12:19.17 | cantido | Stava: ok, so there is a locales-all package (IIRC) that contains them all pre created |
| 12:19.26 | Stava | Oh |
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| 12:19.56 | Stava | Seems that was already installed, I supposed i spent several minutes generating the locales for nothing then :p |
| 12:19.57 | Stava | Thanks |
| 12:20.02 | Stava | suppose* |
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| 12:33.46 | tziOm | anyone know how to solve the "br0: received packet on eth0 with own address as source address" messages? |
| 12:33.50 | lorenzosu | cantido: eventually i managed to get curlftpfs to work ignoring the certificate verification... maenwhile lftp is really cool, thanks for all the help ;) |
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| 12:41.30 | NikLP | php-fpm: dotdeb, or backports, people? :) |
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| 12:45.19 | cantido | lorenzosu: I like its path completion :) |
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| 12:47.04 | lorenzosu | cantido: fact is I have to edit files etc.. so I also need mount |
| 12:47.44 | cantido | yeah, can you not pull all the files and sync back the changed ones some how? |
| 12:47.58 | cantido | having to use ftp sounds like 10 years ago or something |
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| 12:53.04 | me-1 | hi...is Debian with LXDE lighter than Lubuntu ..? |
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| 12:54.01 | unkmar | me-1: possibly and probably, but I don't know for sure. |
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| 12:56.12 | Kharec | hi there |
| 12:57.25 | unkmar | doing well? |
| 13:00.14 | jelly | NikLP: backports if they exist |
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| 13:00.40 | jelly | dotdeb have a history of less than quality packaging |
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| 13:04.21 | unkmar | I am writing a very long line for testing, and I know that it will likely be too long for the system to properly handle. If you don't believe me, you could try it yourself. I hear a train off in the distance. Nice cool rumbling of the tracks. |
| 13:04.26 | unkmar | oops. |
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| 13:05.19 | Kharec | how perl modules are named in debian? It seems like lib-bar-foo-perl for Foo::Bar, is it right? |
| 13:05.33 | petemc | yes |
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| 13:08.55 | lstarnes | not quite. you mean libbar-foo-perl is Bar::Foo |
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| 13:09.57 | Kharec | so libfoo-bar-perl is Foo::Bar? :) |
| 13:10.04 | lstarnes | yes |
| 13:10.11 | Kharec | ok thanks |
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| 13:10.47 | mh__ | hi.. i was just having a talk with a friend, and we was discussing which distrubution started to use the .d extension for loading config files.. does someone know that? |
| 13:11.07 | abrotman | mh__: what were the choices? :) |
| 13:11.50 | mh__ | abrotman: well.. i thought i came from debian, and he ment it was something from ubuntu.. but i recall it has been way longer than ubuntu with the run level configs :/ |
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| 13:12.57 | cantido | mh__: I think it was being used before ubuntu was a twinkle in someones eye.. |
| 13:13.06 | mh__ | but then its like there have been a boost with in the last few year.. apache in deb env.. and all other applications has implemented it |
| 13:13.40 | cantido | bsds have some .d's too IIRC |
| 13:14.05 | mh__ | cantido: yeh.. with their run levels.. i guess that the first place it was used.. |
| 13:14.32 | abrotman | mh__: uh .. pretty sure Debian had it before Ubuntu .. install woody, see if you can find it .. or maybe sarge |
| 13:16.20 | mh__ | abrotman: hmm, yeh i can try and install some different versions of the dists, then i will get the answer between those two versions :) |
| 13:16.27 | abrotman | mh__: it's entirely possible that method didn't start with any Debian-based distro |
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| 13:17.42 | mh__ | abrotman: yes.. i know :) its not really any important.. i just had to check up on it somehow to see if i could find an answer :) |
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| 13:19.07 | abrotman | mh__: if my only two choices are debian and ubuntu, i'd go with Debian .. pretty sure it's been there for almost 10 years |
| 13:19.29 | stockholm | abrotman: much longer then 10 years |
| 13:19.31 | mh__ | abrotman: yes.. thats what i think too.. its a pretty old concept |
| 13:19.56 | abrotman | stockholm: i'm going off my feeble memory .. lots of beers consumed between now and then :) |
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| 13:20.15 | cantido | who started the /et/defaults/ thing? |
| 13:20.20 | cantido | s/et/etc/ |
| 13:20.37 | cantido | s/defaults/default/ |
| 13:20.39 | stockholm | abrotman: i became a dd 11 years ago, and it had ben around for yaears then |
| 13:20.43 | abrotman | stockholm: be cool if someone had a website with interesting features like the .d and how they releate to linux history |
| 13:20.51 | abrotman | stockholm: the .d or Debian in general? |
| 13:20.57 | abrotman | conf.d stuff |
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| 13:21.11 | stockholm | Debian |
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| 13:21.49 | abrotman | oh yea, I know Debian is far older .. I've been using it longer than 10 years .. he was asking about the first appearance of conf.d directories like /etc/logrotate.d/ etc |
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| 13:22.03 | mh__ | http://rod.info/files/linux_distro_timeline.jpg |
| 13:22.07 | mh__ | a nice timeline :) |
| 13:22.27 | abrotman | stockholm: IIRC, Debian was already on 3.0 in 2001 |
| 13:22.31 | abrotman | or darn close to it |
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| 13:30.40 | tvm | i remember using woody in 2002 already |
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| 13:35.43 | abrotman | !release history |
| 13:35.43 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06). The next release will be Wheezy. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives |
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| 13:52.58 | filePeter | Will non-security-issue bugfixes I submit for squeeze be put into it? |
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| 13:59.00 | D4rKr0W | filePeter: i think you're better off submitting them for backports |
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| 14:08.02 | drhouse123 | Hi all! kde-4.7.3 is available in unstable dvd or repos ? Can I to install it? |
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| 14:15.07 | CruX| | hello, intel Sandy Bridge graphics card is supported under linux ? |
| 14:15.22 | CruX| | with acceleration |
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| 14:15.47 | abrotman | CruX|: which linux? |
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| 14:16.32 | CruX| | abrotman: yes |
| 14:16.46 | abrotman | WHICH |
| 14:16.47 | basso | CruX|: Yes, just make sure you run a newer kernel |
| 14:16.55 | basso | great performance in 3.0+ |
| 14:17.08 | abrotman | CruX|: which Linux distro are you asking about? |
| 14:17.12 | CruX| | abrotman: debian 6.0 64 bit |
| 14:17.26 | basso | ah |
| 14:17.27 | abrotman | don't think it supports the accleration |
| 14:17.27 | CruX| | i am on debian channel right ? |
| 14:17.32 | lasers | CruX|: You are. |
| 14:17.48 | basso | 6.0 runs 2.6.32 kernel? |
| 14:17.56 | abrotman | CruX|: not with the kenrel it comes with anyway .. maybe with a backports.org kernel, but generally, you'd need a 3.x kernel |
| 14:17.58 | jelly | yes, basso |
| 14:18.10 | themill | CruX|: that doesn't stop people asking about other distros in #debian all too often. Also, the answer would be different if you were asking about squeeze or wheezy |
| 14:18.14 | basso | bump to debian testing |
| 14:18.25 | abrotman | drhouse123: check packages.debian.org |
| 14:18.48 | jelly | basso: that "bump" makes the user lose security support |
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| 14:19.27 | inashdeen | hi guys, i would like to ask a question here. hope people wont bet agree with it. what is the difference between ubuntu and debian unstable? and i am looking more into aspects like driver support, dependencies, etc. |
| 14:19.43 | drhouse123 | abrotman: thanks |
| 14:20.07 | cantido | inashdeen: all the drivers except blobs/external drivers(very few) come from the kernel |
| 14:20.23 | basso | jelly: true so true, but debian testing is the most stable gnome3 distro <.< |
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| 14:20.44 | inashdeen | cantido : can someone elaborate more on that? does it support jockey-gtk? |
| 14:20.54 | CruX| | abrotman: I can build latest latest kernel from git, but are there xorg drivers in debian 6.0 ? |
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| 14:21.05 | abrotman | CruX|: there are backport drivers |
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| 14:21.11 | abrotman | judd: versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 14:21.14 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on i386 -- lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny8; squeeze: 2:2.13.0-6; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; sid: 2:2.17.0-1; wheezy: 2:2.17.0-1 |
| 14:21.22 | jelly | CruX|: there are backported vidoe-intel drivers which OUGHT TO support SB |
| 14:21.22 | abrotman | not sure if those support sandybridge or not |
| 14:21.23 | CruX| | ah ok thx |
| 14:21.25 | cantido | inashdeen: in linux most drivers ship with the kernel.. only nvidia, ati and some out of tree drivers arent shipped in the kernel |
| 14:21.49 | cantido | inashdeen: so driver support is pretty much equal between distros with the same kernel version |
| 14:21.52 | abrotman | inashdeen: the drivers are there, in Debian, they require more work |
| 14:22.09 | inashdeen | abrotman : what kind of work? |
| 14:22.18 | cantido | some need firmware |
| 14:22.28 | inashdeen | cantido : how about dependencies? is there any problem with that |
| 14:22.41 | themill | CruX|, abrotman, jelly: the backports kernel and xserver-xorg-video-intel work just fine with sandy bridge |
| 14:22.44 | cantido | sometimes the nvidia drivers arent up to date, or stable is too stale to work with current cards |
| 14:22.52 | inashdeen | I am not really literate with linux. is it advisable for me to use debian then? |
| 14:23.01 | cantido | inashdeen: dependencies for packages? |
| 14:23.05 | basso | instead of jockey-gtk you have to copy-pasta 2-3 terminal lines from debian wiki |
| 14:23.09 | jelly | themill: yay! Quick, buy me a SB machine so I can reverify |
| 14:23.26 | jelly | I would be amenable with Ivy Bridge as well |
| 14:23.37 | inashdeen | basso : if i install jockey then, will it work? |
| 14:23.42 | inashdeen | cantido : yes |
| 14:23.50 | abrotman | inashdeen: if you're not literate with linux, why would you isntall something called "unstable" ? |
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| 14:24.10 | basso | does jockey exist in debian? <.< |
| 14:24.25 | jelly | basso: what does it do |
| 14:24.30 | cantido | abrotman: it should be called shiny |
| 14:24.36 | inashdeen | abrotman : because the stable got an older kernel, which doesn't support my lappy based on what ive seen in ubuntu |
| 14:24.38 | basso | its the prop driver installer for ubuntu |
| 14:24.57 | abrotman | inashdeen: support what part of your laptop? Debian is NOT ubuntu .. things do not always work the same |
| 14:25.02 | cantido | inashdeen: you can get a backport of a newer kernel |
| 14:25.03 | basso | it provides 1 click gui install of drivers |
| 14:25.16 | cantido | basso: like the nvidia drivers? |
| 14:25.36 | inashdeen | abrotman : before i proceed in explaining,may i know which kernel is used in the latest stable release? |
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| 14:25.46 | cantido | do you need that know we have DKMS? |
| 14:25.58 | abrotman | inashdeen: that isn't a valid question .. they backport many drivers |
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| 14:26.15 | abrotman | it's more useful to know what hardware you think won't work in Stable |
| 14:26.27 | basso | cantido: yes, its a nice application for ubuntu, but since driver install is a 1 time thing normaly i dont really see the use for it <.< |
| 14:26.28 | abrotman | and no, jockey-gtk is NOT in Debian |
| 14:26.33 | jelly | basso: oh, debian probably doesn't have that thing. Debian in general doesn't go out of its way to help users install non-free drivers. |
| 14:26.39 | inashdeen | abrotman : what is backports? seriously. i am relatively new to debian. a bit of explaination would be good :) |
| 14:26.48 | lasers | basso: No jockey. Installing nvidia on debian isn't hard at all. Google "wiki debian nvidia" and follow few commands, reboot. That's it. |
| 14:26.59 | cantido | jelly: except that most of them are well packaged and just install? |
| 14:27.07 | abrotman | inashdeen: it's a backport .. take newer features/fixes from more recent veresions and backport them to older versions |
| 14:27.13 | cantido | jelly: hell, there are even non-free firmware packages |
| 14:27.18 | jelly | cantido: I would NOT call /msg dpkg nvidia dkms "just install" |
| 14:27.27 | basso | the easiest way to install drivers on debian is to google "hardware + driver + debian" and be thrown into a debian wiki |
| 14:27.36 | cantido | jelly: if you install the driver package it just installs most of the time |
| 14:27.50 | cantido | jelly: missing headers/kbuild being the only issue |
| 14:28.05 | abrotman | !dbugs 436722 |
| 14:28.06 | inashdeen | ok then. ~grim~ |
| 14:28.10 | dpkg | #436722:W[wnpp] RFP: jockey -- user interface and desktop integration for driver management (); Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:27:01 UTC [] |
| 14:28.11 | jelly | cantido: that's not user friendly as it could be |
| 14:28.14 | cantido | basso: are there really that many out of tree drivers? |
| 14:28.57 | cantido | jelly: still, its not all that difficult either |
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| 14:29.10 | basso | not that much, but the sinners are normaly wireless and gfx |
| 14:29.12 | jelly | cantido: and "just install" doesn't take care of a number of manual stuff like blacklisting nouveau |
| 14:29.23 | jelly | cantido: it's ugly. |
| 14:29.26 | lasers | Question: Is there an equilivant of pacman (archlinux) for Debian? I like 'pacman -Syu' instead of 'aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade'... If not, I'll just use aliases instead. |
| 14:29.55 | abrotman | lasers: what does pacman do ? |
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| 14:30.01 | cantido | jelly: I would rather have that then some tool changing stuff without asking really |
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| 14:30.20 | basso | the channel is on fire |
| 14:30.22 | jelly | lasers: we don't know what pacman does. If you explain the functionality, people in the channel will try to come up with equivalents |
| 14:30.33 | cantido | jelly: the nvidia modules are going to be the hardest of any.. even stuff like virtual boxes host drivers just install via DKMS now |
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| 14:30.48 | lasers | abrotman: It's same thing as aptitude/apt-get. It's a package manager. I wanted to know if one exists. (without having to type through the whole thing). |
| 14:30.54 | abrotman | lasers: right, you'd use "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade' |
| 14:31.01 | cantido | hears you can install java in debian these days ;) |
| 14:31.08 | jelly | cantido: exactly my point. Debian doesn't help with using those as much as it could. |
| 14:31.18 | abrotman | lasers: or try apticron/cron-apt if you're really interested in not paying attention to what is upgraded |
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| 14:31.35 | lasers | abrotman: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta |
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| 14:31.53 | abrotman | lasers: i read the man page .. got the gist |
| 14:32.10 | basso | sun-java is gone from debian testing |
| 14:32.24 | cantido | basso: indeed |
| 14:32.25 | abrotman | yes |
| 14:32.40 | cantido | basso: which is annoying.. because the games I'm working on crash openjdk :( |
| 14:32.44 | rozie | is there any good way to package java from sun on Squeeze? |
| 14:32.45 | rly | What is the 'release' in the context of /etc/apt/preferences when I have a package named 2.7.9-1puppetlabs1? |
| 14:32.50 | lasers | abrotman: I'll just use aliases. So I don't have to type out much. pacman -S pidgin is two word. aptitude search pidgin is two word. I just love their parameters, that's all. |
| 14:32.56 | abrotman | cantido: that's definitely a bug to file |
| 14:32.57 | lasers | there* |
| 14:32.59 | lasers | three* |
| 14:33.01 | cantido | rozie: the distribution terms have changed |
| 14:33.05 | rozie | there used to be java-package, but it's gone |
| 14:33.10 | abrotman | lasers: "-S" isn't a word ? |
| 14:33.12 | basso | cantido: aslong as my banks login work and minecraft work im happy with openjdk |
| 14:33.38 | rozie | cantido: I understand, but I'd like to have it installed from .deb |
| 14:33.41 | lasers | abrotman: I think of it as parameter. |
| 14:33.43 | rozie | on my system only |
| 14:33.44 | cantido | basso: yeah, they are lucky then ;) |
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| 14:34.03 | cantido | rozie: there was a java package maker in debian before |
| 14:34.05 | basso | lol, i infact changed from ubuntu 11.10 to debian testing 12 hours ago |
| 14:34.08 | abrotman | lasers: at any rate .. if you make aliases .. make sure they aren't rigid .. `aptitude search' can be pretty powerful .. |
| 14:34.17 | yao_ziyuan | one question: can there be different versions of the same package in "testing" at the same time? |
| 14:34.25 | cantido | rozie: but really, if openjdk gets the small bug fixes it needs there is no need for oracles JVM |
| 14:34.31 | abrotman | yao_ziyuan: kinda .. |
| 14:34.34 | rozie | cantido: yes, I used to use it. but what alternatives do we have now? |
| 14:34.34 | basso | ubuntu managed to bork the smartcard daemon, so i was forced to change <.< |
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| 14:34.46 | cantido | rozie: unluck harmony openjdk doesnt have totally f**ked standard classes etc |
| 14:34.59 | cantido | s/unluck/unlike/ |
| 14:35.05 | rozie | cantido: well, I'm afraid I need to have working jre right now |
| 14:35.20 | rozie | and I also would like to have patched OS |
| 14:35.22 | abrotman | yao_ziyuan: for instacne, postgresql-9.0 and postgresql-9.1 .. but you cannot have two libfoo0.4 for example |
| 14:35.29 | lasers | abrotman: Does Debian prefer aptitude or apt-get (I can't remember if I installed it myself?) |
| 14:35.46 | yao_ziyuan | abrotman: why not |
| 14:35.54 | cantido | rozie: yeah, my problem too .. I'm doing android games for some startup atm.. cant test some of them on my desktop anymore because they make ojdk crash in libc somewhere |
| 14:35.54 | basso | i love stuff with foo, im going to make libkungfoo one day |
| 14:35.57 | rozie | there are expliots for current Debian Java versions at wild. with remote command execution ;/ |
| 14:35.58 | abrotman | lasers: generally, aptitude is a better tool to use .. for upgrades between versions, generally use apt-get |
| 14:36.02 | abrotman | yao_ziyuan: why not what? |
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| 14:36.16 | sfsf32 | hello |
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| 14:36.24 | basso | hello sfsf32 |
| 14:36.29 | lasers | basso: I'm on debian-testing myself. I find it better than Ubuntu anyway (for personal machines). :) |
| 14:36.34 | sfsf32 | someone has iceweasel 8.0? |
| 14:36.39 | yao_ziyuan | abrotman: why can't i have two libfoo0.4 |
| 14:36.50 | cantido | rozie: you could use older packages from debian snapshots |
| 14:36.51 | abrotman | yao_ziyuan: you want to have for instace, libjpeg8b-1 and libjpeg8c-2 both installed on the same system? |
| 14:36.55 | sfsf32 | or simply iceweasel |
| 14:36.57 | rozie | anyway, I'll give openjdk a try |
| 14:36.58 | basso | sfsf32: yes i have |
| 14:36.58 | abrotman | sfsf32: mozilla.debian.net |
| 14:37.19 | basso | lasers: yes it is quite better than ubuntu, and much more stable, even when its "testing" |
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| 14:37.31 | rozie | if it doesn't work, I'll look for java-package sources... it was just bash script IIRC |
| 14:37.31 | basso | rozie: openjdk is quite badass |
| 14:37.34 | sfsf32 | basso, can you tell me what you see here? http://www.proraso.com/ |
| 14:37.36 | yao_ziyuan | abrotman: both in 'testing' |
| 14:37.57 | sfsf32 | i see a tiny page, and i see it normal with other browser |
| 14:37.58 | abrotman | yao_ziyuan: if the maintainer makes them not conflict, yes, you can have them installed, but you can't have a libjpeg.so point at both ? |
| 14:38.07 | basso | sfsf32: i see a flash thingi |
| 14:38.08 | cantido | rozie: openjdk 7 at least crashes with better error messages ;) |
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| 14:38.10 | yao_ziyuan | abrotman: i see your point |
| 14:38.18 | basso | about the size of a poststamp |
| 14:38.19 | cantido | rozie: 6 just crashes with no output most of the time |
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| 14:38.29 | sfsf32 | basso, is it tiny? |
| 14:38.34 | abrotman | yao_ziyuan: see libjpeg7 and libjpeg8 in testing for an example .. |
| 14:38.35 | basso | sfsf32: yes |
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| 14:38.54 | sfsf32 | basso, do you have another browser to open that page? |
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| 14:39.32 | basso | sfsf32: at the moment no |
| 14:39.46 | sfsf32 | basso, ok, thank you anyway |
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| 14:40.31 | basso | sfsf32: no rpoblemp |
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| 14:40.39 | rozie | crashes. <facepalm> |
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| 14:41.11 | yao_ziyuan | abrotman: so generally we don't have two different versions of the same software package in 'testing' unless they're intentionally designed to be able to coexist with each other, like postgresql-9.0 and postgresql-9.1, right? |
| 14:41.39 | cantido | yao_ziyuan: if they cant co-exist they should conflict |
| 14:41.42 | abrotman | yao_ziyuan: i suppose i should ask what you're really trying to do ? |
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| 14:42.05 | basso | can anyone in testing get software center working? |
| 14:42.13 | cantido | rozie: openjdk 7? |
| 14:42.13 | yao_ziyuan | abrotman: learning about debian's model |
| 14:42.24 | abrotman | basso: why would they want to ? aptitude-gtk doesn't work for you? |
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| 14:43.11 | basso | i want to be retarded once in a while, a surf applications while im drooling, and maybe install something i have no use for |
| 14:43.12 | abrotman | basso: checked the BTS? |
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| 14:44.27 | rozie | cantido: well. don't know. just don't like word "crash" according to software I need use ;) |
| 14:44.33 | Delf | When running SOFTWARE raid 0. It refuses to spin down. |
| 14:44.43 | Delf | Is this issue recognized? |
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| 14:45.13 | cantido | rozie: I'm sure its ok for most applications |
| 14:45.29 | cantido | rozie: even the official jdk crashes for opengl applications for me |
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| 15:02.07 | aguitel | how install video driver for my card: amd 128 rage ? |
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| 15:04.20 | piezo | aguitel: what do you mean? xorg ? |
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| 15:04.42 | aguitel | piezo, the driver |
| 15:05.10 | piezo | xorg driver or kernel |
| 15:05.35 | aguitel | piezo, kernel |
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| 15:06.38 | piezo | if debian std. kernel, its build as a module, kernel config name CONFIG_DRM_R128, as far as i know |
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| 15:07.29 | piezo | module named r128 |
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| 15:07.39 | aguitel | can i follow this wiki:http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Supported_Devices ? |
| 15:08.14 | piezo | i think you dont need the proprietary driver, just use the kernels |
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| 15:08.51 | aguitel | piezo, i will try later ,thanks |
| 15:09.09 | alex88 | hi guys, i'm adding an alias ip to eth interface, i've added the auto eth0:0 face eth0:0 inet static etc to /etc/network/interfaces, how can i start up eth0:0 without restarting networking or machine? |
| 15:09.43 | piezo | you can restart the via networking script in init.d or ifup |
| 15:10.05 | boudiccas | can someone help me please with a hardware problem? i'm trying to burn a dvd using k3b on squeeze, and when i place the blank dvd in the caddy and push the caddy into the machine, the dvd just sounds like its rattling around and not being read or mounted. How should i clear this problem please? |
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| 15:10.33 | Led_Zeppelin | hi |
| 15:10.40 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone here experiment with openmosix? |
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| 15:10.42 | alex88 | piezo: great! thank you ;) |
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| 15:10.44 | piezo | boudiccas: only on linux? or same prob via win or other livecd |
| 15:10.54 | piezo | alex88 should work :) |
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| 15:11.13 | boudiccas | piezo; i only use debian, but it has read professional dvd's in th epast |
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| 15:11.34 | piezo | brb, meeting.. |
| 15:13.14 | simonlnu | maybe you inserted wrong? |
| 15:13.19 | simonlnu | inserted it* |
| 15:13.56 | boudiccas | simonlnu; no, it fits nicely in the confines of the caddy, and i tried with another blank dvd with the same problem |
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| 15:14.19 | simonlnu | 'k |
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| 15:15.39 | Kharec | is there a way to let "play" play the mp3 sequences? this util (play) is from sox pkg. |
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| 15:24.02 | jelly | Kharec: works for me? |
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| 15:24.32 | Kharec | jelly: I've this for all my mp3: play FAIL formats: no handler for file extension `mp3' |
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| 15:24.53 | jelly | judd: file libsox_fmt_mp3.so |
| 15:24.57 | judd | Search for libsox_fmt_mp3.so in squeeze/i386: libsox-fmt-mp3: usr/lib/sox/libsox_fmt_mp3.so |
| 15:25.05 | jelly | Kharec: is that package installed |
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| 15:25.33 | Kharec | jelly: I check |
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| 15:25.47 | jelly | you do that |
| 15:26.06 | Kharec | It wasn't installed. Thanks. |
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| 15:26.31 | Kharec | it works now |
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| 15:26.48 | jelly | apt-cache search libsox might reveal other interesting stuff |
| 15:27.01 | Kharec | maybe :) |
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| 15:28.14 | Kharec | jelly: obviously! |
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| 15:29.21 | zaltekk | has anyone here tried using Cisco AnyConnect(vpn client)? |
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| 15:30.53 | colo-work | zaltekk, if you can, use vpnc instead. |
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| 15:31.05 | zaltekk | colo-work: i don't think you can with anyconnect |
| 15:31.09 | colo-work | the Cisco IPSec client is about as good as prostate cancer. |
| 15:31.20 | colo-work | (which is to be avoided, if possible) |
| 15:32.17 | cthuluh | didn't know about the prostate cancer |
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| 15:34.35 | sephii | I never used a good commercial vpn client... ever tried the juniper one? |
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| 15:35.20 | colo-work | if it doesn't integrate with NetworkManager, how good can it be? |
| 15:35.33 | Miesco | I can't do it, I can't set up /etc/network/interfaces with wep |
| 15:36.04 | cthuluh | good ; wep is bad anyway |
| 15:36.14 | Kharec | wpa powa. |
| 15:36.22 | zaltekk | well, i need it to connect to my university/work in order to access some internal machines without manually setting up ssh tunnels for every connection |
| 15:36.28 | cthuluh | ipsec powa |
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| 15:37.16 | cthuluh | zaltekk: I don't get it, how does wep help? |
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| 15:37.27 | zaltekk | cthuluh: huh? i never said anything about wireless |
| 15:37.30 | cthuluh | zaltekk: oh no, you're talking about the vpn clie t, sorry |
| 15:37.34 | zaltekk | yep |
| 15:37.35 | jelly | colo-work: in my book, N-M is worse than CiscoVPN |
| 15:37.44 | Miesco | How do I set up a wep key if I have only 1 of them? In /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:39.54 | Miesco | Am I suppost to tell /etc/network/interfaces that i'm using iwconfig? |
| 15:40.13 | koko_ | hello |
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| 15:42.24 | Miesco | Is this right?: http://pastebin.com/HYMQQu7V |
| 15:42.31 | koko_ | please what is the best captival portal ? |
| 15:42.39 | Miesco | Thats my /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:44.52 | MichelleZ | i though it would work with just "wireless-key a1a2a3aa4a5a6a7a8a9aaabacad" for a single key too, does iwconfig show the details you have in your interfaces after you have done an ifup? |
| 15:45.05 | cthuluh | Miesco: wireless-essid your-ssid\nwireless-key your-key |
| 15:45.26 | colo-work | jelly, you should let an editor have a look at your book then ;) |
| 15:45.28 | cthuluh | Miesco: and remove the useless 'allow-hotplug wlan0' line |
| 15:45.42 | cthuluh | Miesco: or the 'auto wlan0' one if you have a pluggable interface |
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| 15:50.09 | Miesco | k thanks |
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| 15:51.13 | philluminati | Hi guys. I'm at the command line here. decided to finally run aptitude dist-upgrade and switch from an unpatched, 2 year old, kind of messy squeeze install to get to a sid install. |
| 15:51.21 | Miesco | When I do ifup I get: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : |
| 15:51.24 | Miesco | Hello? |
| 15:51.51 | Miesco | Am I back? |
| 15:52.18 | cthuluh | you didn't really leave |
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| 15:52.45 | sephii | philluminati: you want to upgrade directly from your 2 year old install to sid? |
| 15:52.47 | philluminati | got through a grub install and things, but now Xorg won't start, and when it does, I just get the error "gnome failed". Any thoughts on where I should go from here? I manually loaded a kernel module named "nouveau" to get that far. Think nvidia is properly broken |
| 15:52.53 | Miesco | When I do ifup I get: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : |
| 15:53.01 | philluminati | sephii, I always delayed upgrading because it breaks stuff... |
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| 15:53.19 | sephii | philluminati: yeah but upgrading a 2 year old install to sid *will* break stuff :) |
| 15:53.26 | philluminati | grub reinstall* that was. |
| 15:53.34 | sephii | philluminati: check your ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 15:53.49 | sephii | philluminati: and maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log too |
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| 15:54.36 | koko_ | please what is the best captival portal ? |
| 15:54.37 | cthuluh | Miesco: what does ''iwconfig wlan0'' show? what about ''ping 192.168.1.1''? please use a pastebin |
| 15:54.46 | cthuluh | koko_: chilispot? |
| 15:54.55 | cthuluh | ll* |
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| 15:55.34 | koko_ | thank |
| 15:55.47 | philluminati | great. I have a file called /var/log/Xorg.179.log and 178 other ones as well |
| 15:56.01 | cthuluh | koko_: (nevermind the fact the "the best ..." doesn't have any meaning and that I answered because you really seemed to want an opinion) |
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| 15:56.27 | sephii | philluminati: that's probably some side-effect due to the 2 year old install :) |
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| 15:57.01 | Miesco | iwconfig wlan0: http://paste.debian.net/149745/ |
| 15:57.22 | Miesco | When I do ifup I get: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : |
| 15:57.23 | cthuluh | looks ok |
| 15:57.26 | Miesco | Why would I get that error? |
| 15:57.27 | koko_ | cthulh: ok thank but can use it on a company for more that 100 employers |
| 15:57.39 | koko_ | cthuluh: ok thank but can use it on a company for more that 100 employers |
| 15:57.40 | cthuluh | Miesco: incomplete driver, perhaps ; no idea |
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| 15:57.52 | cthuluh | koko_: yes ; trust me |
| 15:58.16 | philluminati | ...anyway... break out links I guess and figure out what the problem is. xorg suggests that gnome executes and so does compiz as well before something goes wrong... |
| 15:58.18 | Miesco | probably need to put my WEP code in quotes? |
| 15:58.18 | cthuluh | koko_: or, alternatively, search what's the best tool for this job ; reading documentation is good for that |
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| 15:58.36 | cthuluh | Miesco: iwconfig seems to show you're associated with the AP |
| 15:58.57 | cthuluh | "Link Quality=84/100 " |
| 15:59.03 | rozie | hm, how to add java plugin to iceweasel? I installed openjdk-7-jre, but iceweasel has no plugin |
| 15:59.09 | Miesco | cthuluh: Oh wait, thats not right |
| 15:59.17 | Miesco | cthuluh: Thats from wicd lol |
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| 15:59.22 | Miesco | set up with wicd |
| 15:59.27 | philluminati | which browser is the better one? links or lynx please? |
| 15:59.28 | Miesco | one sec, i'm going to lag out |
| 15:59.28 | cthuluh | ... |
| 15:59.35 | rozie | installing icedtea-plugin wants to install openjdk-6 ;/ |
| 15:59.39 | cthuluh | philluminati: elinks |
| 15:59.46 | rozie | philluminati: links2 |
| 15:59.55 | philluminati | :-s |
| 16:00.03 | cthuluh | people seem to love polls, today |
| 16:00.27 | philluminati | thank you both |
| 16:00.34 | koko_ | cthuluh: ok thank |
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| 16:01.01 | boudiccas | can someone help me please with a hardware problem? i'm trying to burn a dvd using k3b on squeeze, and when i place the blank dvd in the caddy and push the caddy into the machine, the dvd just sounds like its rattling around and not being read or mounted. The machine is stable and level, yet its still failing to read them |
| 16:01.22 | boudiccas | is there any sort of cailbration package that could help me please? |
| 16:01.35 | qr223 | maybe they're written in a language your computer doesn't understand |
| 16:01.43 | qr223 | maybe it's written for ubuntu so it's actually in african |
| 16:01.54 | boudiccas | qr223; theyre /blank/ discs |
| 16:01.54 | blackshirt | boudiccass : have you try with other dvd blank ? |
| 16:02.09 | qr223 | oh, wellt hen i don't know |
| 16:02.20 | boudiccas | blackshirt; yes, i've tried with another brand and its failed to laod as well |
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| 16:03.29 | DammitJim | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.37 | blackshirt | boudiccas: is your dvdrom installed correctly ? |
| 16:03.57 | boudiccas | blackshirt; yes, it reads commercial dvds with no problem |
| 16:03.59 | cthuluh | DammitJim, pay attention! |
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| 16:05.06 | Miesco | k back! |
| 16:05.14 | DammitJim | man, what a space can do to you! |
| 16:05.41 | blackshirt | boudiccas: k3b not success to burn them ? |
| 16:06.05 | boudiccas | blackshirt; its not recognising the disk, keeps asking for me to insert a blank disc |
| 16:06.32 | Miesco | iwconifg: http://pastebin.com/7xiYGdLU |
| 16:06.54 | cthuluh | damn captchas... |
| 16:07.02 | cthuluh | Miesco: please keep on using paste.debian.ney |
| 16:07.05 | cthuluh | net* |
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| 16:09.08 | blackshirt | boudiccas: looks strange.. have you try with other app, like brasero ? |
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| 16:09.47 | boudiccas | blackshirt; yes, same problem, asks me for a blank disc when theres on in the caddy |
| 16:10.01 | boudiccas | one |
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| 16:10.22 | simonlnu | tuesday is typo day |
| 16:10.56 | philluminati | didn't the nvidia driver used to be in a package called kmod-nvidia? |
| 16:11.05 | philluminati | or something along those lines? |
| 16:11.09 | Miesco | I'm using pastebin it, how do I change the default to debianpaste instead of pastebin.com? |
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| 16:11.49 | Olof_szary | i have problem on wheezy, I could not find package with sdl-config |
| 16:11.52 | cthuluh | Miesco: start with reading the manpage |
| 16:12.30 | Miesco | cthuluh: I did |
| 16:12.34 | Miesco | cthuluh: told me nothing |
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| 16:13.20 | cthuluh | try -b url, then |
| 16:13.40 | simonlnu | philluminati: probably, but that was in the 2.2/2.4 days if so |
| 16:14.02 | simonlnu | !tell philluminati -about search |
| 16:14.11 | Miesco | cthuluh: I have that as an alias |
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| 16:16.54 | boudiccas | with a blank disc in the caddy, i'm unable to mount it, it says ............ mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0 |
| 16:17.09 | boudiccas | so its not reading the disc even |
| 16:17.28 | MichelleZ | why are you mounting a blank disk? |
| 16:17.44 | boudiccas | MichelleZ; so that i cna then run k3b to burn it |
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| 16:18.23 | Olof_szary | q |
| 16:18.28 | MichelleZ | k3b uses cdrecord? |
| 16:18.45 | Miesco | cthuluh: The alias doesn't work if i'm in vim, ex: :w !pastebinit |
| 16:19.01 | MichelleZ | mounting implies a filesystem to mount, and as its blank there is nothing to mount. I've never had to mount a cd before to burn it |
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| 16:19.13 | cthuluh | Miesco: sure ; leave vim |
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| 16:19.18 | boudiccas | MichelleZ; dont know without checking, but the point is that it keeps asking me to insert a blank disc even with one in the caddy |
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| 16:19.38 | MichelleZ | do you have more than one CD drive on that system? |
| 16:19.44 | boudiccas | no |
| 16:20.14 | MichelleZ | got cdrecord installed? what does "cdrecord -scanbus" show? |
| 16:20.25 | boudiccas | when i place the blank disc in the caddy it just rattles and is not seen by gnome |
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| 16:20.55 | karlpinc | boudiccas: You could try blowing the dust out of it.... gently-ish. |
| 16:21.07 | Miesco | cthuluh: http://paste.debian.net/149754/ |
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| 16:21.29 | cthuluh | Miesco: it still seems to be working |
| 16:21.32 | MichelleZ | rattling around implys its seeing the media change and trying to automount and failing, thats not unusual for a blank disk |
| 16:21.46 | MichelleZ | the issue is it not seeing its there at burn time |
| 16:21.55 | boudiccas | MichelleZ; cdrecord -scanbus bash: cdrecord: command not found |
| 16:22.36 | boudiccas | karlpinc; i have nothing except my breath to blow the dust out with :) |
| 16:22.38 | MichelleZ | ah k3b can use one of about 4 tools to actually burn |
| 16:23.09 | MichelleZ | i'm curious to see if tried and trused cdrecord can see the drive/disk and can do anything with it |
| 16:23.17 | philluminati | ...think I have to go down for a reboot. Can't unload nouveau driver because it is in use. |
| 16:23.18 | simonlnu | boudiccas: did you try to eject the dvd then re-inserting it? |
| 16:23.26 | boudiccas | simonlnu; yes |
| 16:24.55 | Miesco | cthuluh: Theres no key |
| 16:27.41 | cthuluh | Miesco: what if you you type ''iwconfig wlan0 key on''? |
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| 16:27.55 | Miesco | cthuluh: k i'll try, brb |
| 16:28.00 | cthuluh | wait |
| 16:28.08 | Owner_ | squeeze is the best? |
| 16:28.09 | cthuluh | you don't need to reboot to test that |
| 16:28.16 | boudiccas | simonlnu; i've tried with about five blank discs from one manufactruer, and five of another brand and i get the same result each time - it just rattles around until it times out, and then goes quiescent |
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| 16:33.58 | d33p3ddy | is there any utility to view info of my /dev/sda drive? with partitions, free space etc... |
| 16:34.02 | jhutchins_wk | !command not found |
| 16:34.02 | dpkg | Have you tried running the command as root? If it still is not found, try apt-get install <commandname>. Solves some problems. see 'hdii' |
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| 16:34.22 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: How old is the drive? |
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| 16:35.04 | boudiccas | jhutchins_wk; about 3 years old |
| 16:35.23 | Miesco | cthuluh: back |
| 16:35.24 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: DVD RW? |
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| 16:35.39 | boudiccas | jhutchins_wk; yes |
| 16:35.40 | Miesco | cthuluh: It seems to show the key if I type iwconfig wlan0 key open |
| 16:36.01 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: Hate to be the bearer of bad tidings. You're in the UK aren't you? |
| 16:36.47 | Owner_ | i loves me an debians |
| 16:37.04 | boudiccas | jhutchins_wk; yes |
| 16:37.35 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: Computer hardware is deliciously cheap here in the U.S., very easy to get too. |
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| 16:37.58 | boudiccas | jhutchins2; so you think the dvd drive is knackered then? |
| 16:38.21 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: It's easily been five or ten years since there were any software issues with optical drives. |
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| 16:38.37 | Miesco | cthuluh: hold on brb |
| 16:38.49 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: Yes. They are so cheaply made these days that they only have about a three year lifespan. |
| 16:38.53 | loumz | I've got an Intel sandy bridge GPU. HDMI output is overscanning in the framebuffer console. I can fix this under X using xrandr but running fbset shows "FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument". Any idea how to fix? |
| 16:38.56 | boudiccas | k, i'll look online to see about getting a new one before christmas, hopefully :) |
| 16:39.36 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: You can try cleaning it with canned air (as suggested earlier). I haven't seen a cleaning disk in ages. It's probably one of the lasers out of alignment or otherwise failing. |
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| 16:40.09 | Miesco | Seems to work now |
| 16:40.18 | Miesco | How do I disable a /etc/init.d service? |
| 16:40.38 | boudiccas | jhutchins2; no canned air |
| 16:41.15 | cthuluh | Miesco: update-rc.d |
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| 16:42.13 | Miesco | k thanks |
| 16:43.03 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: Well, a 125 psi garage air compressor will do in a pinch :-) |
| 16:44.02 | boudiccas | jhutchins2; not got a car so i dont know which local garage has an air compressor |
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| 16:44.27 | philluminati | I'm back |
| 16:44.36 | philluminati | upgrade has gone horribly horribly wrong |
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| 16:44.58 | philluminati | gnome got uninstalled. fixed driver issues, reinstalled gnome |
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| 16:45.02 | philluminati | turned out to be gnome 3 |
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| 16:47.19 | sucoQuestion | hi |
| 16:47.39 | sucoQuestion | I've searched at google how to suggest a package to include it in debian repos |
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| 16:47.49 | sucoQuestion | but haven't find any answer |
| 16:47.57 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: Vacuum cleaner then. |
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| 16:53.56 | nsadmin | sucoQuestion, post RTP to debian-devel@lists.debian.org |
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| 16:57.25 | simonlnu | boudiccas: damn, sorry to hear that. and yeh, things are made very crappy these days. get stuff out the door versus quality and well paid workers. |
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| 16:58.33 | boudiccas | simonlnu; i've just ordered a new drive from microdirect which should be with me by the end of the week, hopefully. |
| 16:58.44 | simonlnu | cool |
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| 16:59.31 | sucoQuestion | nsadmin thanks |
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| 17:10.20 | mklappstuhl | hey |
| 17:10.36 | mklappstuhl | how can I see a list of all installed kernel modules including their version? |
| 17:11.28 | Kuifje111 | lsmod perhaps |
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| 17:13.22 | simonlnu | lsmod won't show version. modinfo will. |
| 17:13.43 | Owner_ | what the heck did i select that depends on openoffice |
| 17:13.58 | acu | the ATI fgrlx proprietary drivers do not work properly in Debian Wheezy AMD - when you open an application - the dialog boxes are skewed almost scrambled |
| 17:19.58 | jhutchins_wk | acu: Is that a confirmed bug report or just a complaint? |
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| 17:20.18 | jhutchins_wk | Owner_: aptitude why openoffice |
| 17:20.36 | Owner_ | still in the installer |
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| 17:23.01 | philluminati | does sid mean "unstable"? |
| 17:23.10 | babilen | yes |
| 17:23.11 | technologov | y. |
| 17:23.37 | babilen | as does rc-buddy btw :) |
| 17:23.45 | babilen | err, rc-buggy |
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| 17:24.22 | philluminati | so in my sources file, I don't need to write "unstable"? |
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| 17:24.50 | rizladude | philluminati: what do you have there right now? |
| 17:25.01 | philluminati | http://pastebin.com/iSdtQwqU |
| 17:25.06 | philluminati | that ^ |
| 17:25.12 | babilen | philluminati: You certainly don't have to -- What are you trying to achieve and what is your current sources.list? (→ http://paste.debian.net ) |
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| 17:25.38 | babilen | philluminati: There is no sid/updates |
| 17:26.01 | philluminati | I've just upgraded a 2 year old squeeze to sid but my version of gnome I think is trailing the latest |
| 17:26.02 | acu | jhutchins_wk, I do not know for sure is if marked as a bug, but I installed ATI proprietary in two laptops and they behave almost similar, specially the dialog boxes are skewed |
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| 17:27.14 | acu | jhutchins_wk, they work fine in squeeze but they do not (or partially work) in wheezy |
| 17:27.39 | CissWit | babilen: rc-buggy is not unstable, it's experimental. |
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| 17:28.35 | jhutchins_wk | acu: I think we have another xorg jump in wheezy. |
| 17:28.52 | jhutchins_wk | acu: You could check in #debian-next on oftc.net, see if other people are having the problem too. |
| 17:29.46 | acu | jhutchins_wk, thanks I was looking for ...debian-next |
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| 17:32.48 | Owner_ | damn the installer put X on t here too :/ |
| 17:34.20 | babilen | CissWit: brainfart :( |
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| 17:44.36 | philluminati | I can't see gnome-shell-extensions. can someone tell me source I'm missing please? |
| 17:45.19 | babilen | ,versions gnome-shell-extensions |
| 17:45.22 | judd | Package: gnome-shell-extensions on i386 -- experimental: 3.2.0-1 |
| 17:45.23 | babilen | philluminati: ^^^ |
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| 17:45.50 | philluminati | Thank you babilen |
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| 17:50.53 | alex- | Can I use a striped down version of Debian to run VPSes or do I have to install another OS? |
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| 17:52.17 | daemonkeeper | There is most likely no other Linux distribution being so small in its baseinstall than Debian. |
| 17:52.24 | daemonkeeper | (except DSL and such) |
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| 17:52.50 | alex- | I want one which doesn't haves much overhead |
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| 17:53.07 | alex- | I don't care about disk space |
| 17:53.31 | jelly-home | alex-: you can use any distro you like then, just disable all the services you don't need |
| 17:53.44 | alex- | Is there any 'special' distro? |
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| 17:54.21 | jelly-home | specific for your needs, you mean? Unsure. |
| 17:54.24 | daemonkeeper | Yes, we call it Debian. |
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| 17:54.46 | daemonkeeper | A Debian baseinstall is 200M or so and enables nothing except apt, a shell and libc. |
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| 17:54.59 | daemonkeeper | Everything else depends on you. |
| 17:55.01 | jelly-home | I'd call that one more "well known" or "ubiquitous" than "special" |
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| 18:03.56 | boudiccas | What can play mp4 files please? I've tried VLC, movie player, and dragon player, and none of them can play these mp4 files |
| 18:04.19 | jelly-home | boudiccas: vlc ought to be able to. |
| 18:04.25 | jelly-home | mplayer likewise |
| 18:04.42 | jelly-home | boudiccas: which debian release. |
| 18:04.55 | boudiccas | jelly-home; no, they just sit there doing nothing |
| 18:04.59 | boudiccas | squeeze |
| 18:05.35 | jelly-home | boudiccas: pastebin the output of cvlc -vvv foo.mp4 ? |
| 18:05.57 | willwh | boudiccas: probably something wrong with your encode |
| 18:06.14 | willwh | did you run it through ffmpeg? just, ffmpeg -i /path/to/file.ext |
| 18:06.24 | willwh | it will show you codecs used etc and should show any errors |
| 18:07.21 | jelly-home | boudiccas: can you upload a sample file or link it if one's publically available? |
| 18:07.30 | boudiccas | wait two |
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| 18:09.20 | boudiccas | jelly-home; http://paste.debian.net/149763/ |
| 18:10.14 | boudiccas | jelly-home; no, unable to upload or link to sample file, but these were created to watch on a mini screen like you get on a mobile, so they may have some weird parameters |
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| 18:10.33 | jelly-home | [0x985be94] filesystem access error: cannot open file /home/boztu/foo.mp4 (No such file or directory) |
| 18:10.52 | boudiccas | k, i'll try it again then |
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| 18:11.31 | rypervenche | boudiccas: Replace the name of the file. Don't type "foo.mp4" but the actual filename. |
| 18:11.43 | jelly-home | boudiccas: you can use just a single -v for a start and inspect that ouput |
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| 18:12.31 | jelly-home | rypervenche: I think boudiccas is able to parse metasyntactic variables |
| 18:13.10 | jelly-home | if not, there will be !pal-ing |
| 18:14.12 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: You might need to get the packages from dmm |
| 18:14.15 | jhutchins_wk | !dmm |
| 18:14.15 | dpkg | [dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze> <dmm lenny>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>. |
| 18:14.24 | philluminati | How can I meet this dependency please? gnome-shell-extensions: Depends: gir1.2-gtop-2.0 which is a virtual package |
| 18:14.37 | philluminati | I've gone from sid -> unstable -> experimental ? |
| 18:14.45 | jhutchins_wk | philluminati: Which release? |
| 18:14.46 | boudiccas | jhutchins2; yes, but /which/ packages? |
| 18:14.57 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: mplayer, vlc |
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| 18:15.09 | philluminati | boudiccas, sorry I don't understand the question |
| 18:15.13 | boudiccas | jhutchins2; in which case i've already got them |
| 18:15.13 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: Whichever one you want to use as a player. |
| 18:15.29 | philluminati | you know what, don't worry. I'll have my dinner, come back to this later |
| 18:15.32 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: Yes, but did you get them from dmm? |
| 18:15.37 | philluminati | thank you guys |
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| 18:16.51 | jelly-home | ,whatprovides gir1.2-gtop-2.0 --release sid |
| 18:16.56 | judd | In sid/i386, gir1.2-gtop-2.0 is a real package. |
| 18:17.24 | jelly-home | Gepetto would be proud. |
| 18:18.12 | boudiccas | jelly-home; these are the two applicable lines [0x93ee844] main input error: Your input can't be opened |
| 18:18.13 | boudiccas | [0x93ee844] main input error: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'file:///home/boztu/Desktop/rd-s1e1-the%2520end.mp4'. Check the log for details............ basically it cant open the mp4, regardless of where its put, on the cd, or on the desktop |
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| 18:18.50 | boudiccas | jhutchins2; i beleive so, at some stage in the dim and distant past |
| 18:19.20 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: It's not a permissions issue is it? |
| 18:19.36 | boudiccas | jhutchins2; doubtful, those have been resolved |
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| 18:20.26 | jelly-home | boudiccas: ok, that is quite different from previous "file not found". Pastebin the vvv again |
| 18:20.40 | boudiccas | k, wait two |
| 18:20.44 | jhutchins_wk | imo step outa this let jelly-home handle it. |
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| 18:22.10 | boudiccas | jelly-home; http://paste.debian.net/149764/ |
| 18:23.08 | ozst | Hi, does anyone know if there's any good app for Linux for recording video from a web cam? |
| 18:23.42 | admine | hi |
| 18:23.55 | admine | any rtmpdump experts here? please pm me, i need help |
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| 18:24.57 | jelly-home | boudiccas: let's be stupid and rename the file: mv 'rd-s1e1-the%20end.mp4' 'rd-s1e1-the_end.mp4' |
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| 18:27.07 | jelly-home | boudiccas: how large is the file? Which filesystem is it on? ls -l .../rd-s1e1-the_end.mp4 |
| 18:27.37 | jhutchins_wk | ozst: ffmpeg? |
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| 18:27.52 | boudiccas | jelly-home; 357.1mb, on ext3 |
| 18:28.12 | jelly-home | ozst: guvcview can record, but I have no idea what it uses underneath |
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| 18:29.00 | boudiccas | jelly-home; -rw-r--r-- 1 boztu boztu 374455554 Jan 5 2011 /home/boztu/Desktop/rd-s1e1-the_end.mp4 |
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| 18:30.19 | jelly-home | is there any change after renaming it |
| 18:30.49 | boudiccas | jelly-home; i've just tried it again with vlc reading from the desktop, and the file starts being read but there is no graphical or sound output |
| 18:31.02 | boudiccas | jelly-home; none that i can see |
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| 18:33.18 | jelly-home | now you may "just" need to fix video and audio output devices |
| 18:33.50 | jelly-home | might use vlc with normal GUI instead of cvlc for that |
| 18:34.04 | boudiccas | jelly-home; it plays exactly the same as before from the cdrom, i.e. no sound or graphics |
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| 18:34.43 | boudiccas | i'm trying it with the normal GUI for vlc |
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| 18:35.47 | ozst | jhutchins2, thanks! |
| 18:35.55 | ozst | jhutchins_wk, thanks! |
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| 18:36.16 | ozst | jelly-home, I'll look into that, too. thank you |
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| 18:36.34 | jelly-home | boudiccas: can you play eg. something from http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Conference_Recordings, maybe http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/27C3/mp4-h264-HQ/27c3-4060-en-attacking_mobile_phones.mp4 |
| 18:36.57 | boudiccas | k, i can try |
| 18:38.00 | jelly-home | vlc streams it nicely here on wheezy |
| 18:38.48 | jelly-home | ,versions vlc-nox |
| 18:38.48 | judd | Package: vlc-nox on i386 -- lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny3; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; sid: 1.1.12-3; wheezy: 1.1.12-3; sid-multimedia: 1:1.1.12-0.2; wheezy-multimedia: 1:1.1.12-0.2 |
| 18:38.54 | boudiccas | jelly-home; yes, graphics only, no sound |
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| 18:39.48 | jelly-home | boudiccas: and "mplayer -cache 8192 http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/27C3/mp4-h264-HQ/27c3-4060-en-attacking_mobile_phones.mp4" ? |
| 18:39.56 | MrTelephone | anyone successfully install hyper-v toolset for debian? |
| 18:40.22 | jelly-home | MrTelephone: the rpm packaging is shoddy. |
| 18:40.27 | sdubois | will the next stable release of Debian use GNOME 3? |
| 18:40.42 | jelly-home | MrTelephone: but yes. Lemme see which version. |
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| 18:41.22 | boudiccas | jelly-home; yes, but no sound |
| 18:41.44 | johndo | hi |
| 18:41.53 | jelly-home | boudiccas: pastebin the output of mplayer |
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| 18:42.13 | MrTelephone | I've been running 1 vm for a year without the tools. I'd like better network/hd performance |
| 18:42.17 | jelly-home | MrTelephone: I seem to have this installed: ii microsoft-hyper-v rhel6-60.1 Microsoft hyper-v drivers and utilities |
| 18:42.37 | boudiccas | jelly-home; but mplayer shows this in the terminal .......... ************************************************ |
| 18:42.37 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.37 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:42.48 | jelly-home | boudiccas: OH NOES |
| 18:42.56 | jelly-home | boudiccas: pastebin the output of mplayer, please |
| 18:43.14 | johndo | a find in a mounted nfs tree is about 4 times slower when using nfs v4 compared to v3 |
| 18:43.14 | boudiccas | maybe thats the problem with the red dwarf episodes? |
| 18:43.17 | jordanm | !tell MrTelephone about hyperv |
| 18:43.22 | pingu_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.42 | johndo | when i search for nfs performance i only find "v4: improved performance" |
| 18:43.50 | johndo | is this a debian specific regression? |
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| 18:44.05 | MrTelephone | I followed some people's articles on using amd64 kernel but it was unstable as shit |
| 18:44.11 | jordanm | pingu_: starting X applications via cron is not trivial. at the least you will need to define DISPLAY, but may also need to to xauth among other things |
| 18:44.26 | boudiccas | jelly-home; http://paste.debian.net/149765/ |
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| 18:45.00 | MrTelephone | So microsoft doesn't want to include kernel support anymore. Too much politics in this business |
| 18:45.40 | jelly-home | MrTelephone: I used 2.6.38 kernel from... grml.org livecd :-) and my debian was already 32bit and not needing more than 2GB RAM, so it's a 686 kernel |
| 18:45.52 | pingu_ | jordanm,so how do i do it? |
| 18:45.59 | MrTelephone | jelly, do the network drivers work? |
| 18:46.13 | MrTelephone | I mean it works perfect with the legacy drivers |
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| 18:47.23 | jelly-home | MrTelephone: they work. |
| 18:48.02 | jelly-home | MrTelephone: at least, I see only hv_netsvc loaded and no legacy driver using an interrupt in /proc/interrupts |
| 18:48.19 | MrTelephone | what about your scsi driver? |
| 18:48.38 | MrTelephone | What tools do you use to synchronize files over clustered servers? |
| 18:48.57 | boudiccas | jelly-home; http://paste.debian.net/149765/ |
| 18:49.14 | jelly-home | yeah, I'm looking at it |
| 18:49.20 | boudiccas | k, sorry |
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| 18:49.50 | ozst | how can I add applications to th gnome taskbar in wheezy? |
| 18:49.56 | ozst | s/th/the/ |
| 18:50.01 | pingu_ | jordanm, should i try something like this 13 10 20 12 * transmission-gtk DISPLAY=:0 |
| 18:50.08 | jelly-home | boudiccas: does any other alsa application work (make sounds)? |
| 18:50.23 | jelly-home | boudiccas: this looks as if it's outputting both audio and video |
| 18:50.28 | MrTelephone | If you had a few web servers clustered using local hard disks for storage you could use rsync. Managing deleted files can be difficult because you can not do a 2 way sync would delete someones newly created file |
| 18:50.34 | boudiccas | jelly-home; yes, i watched an avi file succesfully this afternoon |
| 18:50.46 | boudiccas | using vlc |
| 18:50.47 | MrTelephone | Is there a solution out there for that ? |
| 18:50.51 | jelly-home | boudiccas: and does the same avi work now? |
| 18:51.00 | boudiccas | k, wait one |
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| 18:52.24 | johndo | MrTelephone: maybe try unison, not sure if it can handle that, but it's designed for a 2 way sync |
| 18:52.40 | boudiccas | jelly-home; yes, sound and graphics, both are working as normal |
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| 18:53.31 | mete888 | hi guys |
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| 18:54.24 | mete888 | I've a VM running on ESX. I added a disk to the vm. how can I now make the debian system to "find" the disk? In windows it automatically detects the drive... |
| 18:55.28 | boudiccas | on a related note, is there a program to convert a mp4 to avi? |
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| 18:56.51 | rypervenche | ffmpeg^^ |
| 18:57.00 | boudiccas | k, ta |
| 18:57.04 | MrTelephone | csync2 was another one I found |
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| 18:58.15 | jelly-home | mete888: tell all the SCSI disk controllers to rescan their respectivebuses: echo "0 0 0" | tee /sys/class/scsi_host/host*/scan |
| 18:58.40 | jelly-home | there's probably just one but... |
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| 18:59.29 | pingu_ | jordanm, okay,so all i had to do was this 28 10 20 12 * export DISPLAY=:0 && transmission-gtk. thanks for the help |
| 18:59.33 | boudiccas | is there a GUI for ffmpeg? |
| 18:59.37 | mete888 | hmmh jelly-home, after this command it takes about 1 sec to complete... but fdisk -l doesn't show the new disk :( |
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| 19:01.20 | jelly-home | mete888: does anything new appear in dmesg? |
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| 19:02.08 | jelly-home | boudiccas: I have no idea why there's no audio, the codec seems recognized and output going out with mplayer |
| 19:02.32 | johndo | jelly-home: hehe, nice use of tee, never thought about using it in that case |
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| 19:02.36 | mete888 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/sxMkEpPE |
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| 19:02.45 | mete888 | that's all.. |
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| 19:03.19 | jelly-home | mete888: I'd advise using emulated SCSI instead of emulated IDE. |
| 19:03.29 | boudiccas | jelly-home; i think it may be because my system is too old and slow and under-powered for it to run, to which theres really no answer |
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| 19:03.43 | boudiccas | jelly-home; but thanks for looking anyway |
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| 19:04.03 | jelly-home | boudiccas: you ought to get choppy reproduction then, not none at all |
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| 19:04.21 | mete888 | jelly-home: why? is there a performance plus? currently I'm getting about ~500-600mb/s, and that's the limit of the disks xD |
| 19:04.28 | boudiccas | jelly-home; hmm, true then |
| 19:04.36 | jelly-home | mete888: because hotplugging disks works, obviously :-) |
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| 19:05.24 | mete888 | hmmh ok |
| 19:06.09 | jelly-home | mete888: out Debian templates (ESX 4.0, vSphere 4.0 at present) use lsilogic emulation, fwiw |
| 19:06.14 | jelly-home | our* |
| 19:06.27 | jelly-home | (my employers) |
| 19:07.06 | mete888 | jelly-home: I've configured lsi logic... just looked that up |
| 19:07.21 | mete888 | lsi logic paralell |
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| 19:07.53 | jelly-home | I think it's that thing, yes. |
| 19:08.05 | jelly-home | and reattach the vmdk to that, voila |
| 19:08.26 | mete888 | jelly-home: it was attached as lsi logic paralell... :( |
| 19:08.34 | jelly-home | orly |
| 19:08.53 | jelly-home | dunno. |
| 19:08.57 | jelly-home | WFM :-) |
| 19:09.17 | jelly-home | I may be lying! |
| 19:09.22 | mete888 | xD |
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| 19:14.42 | rly | Does Sandy Bridge GPU support already exist in Stable? |
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| 19:22.07 | themill | rly: with the help of squeeze-backports, yes |
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| 19:27.13 | boudiccas | if i change my dvd burner to a newer model will squeeze automatically detect it on rebooting? |
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| 19:28.11 | johndo | nobody uses NFS anymore? no NFSv4? :( |
| 19:28.21 | don_armstrong | boudiccas: yes, though it will probably give it a different device |
| 19:28.22 | boudiccas | for 'newer' read /different/ |
| 19:28.26 | johndo | boudiccas: yes, but it probably will have a diifferent device name |
| 19:28.30 | boudiccas | k, thanks for that |
| 19:28.43 | johndo | too slow .. |
| 19:28.51 | boudiccas | np :) |
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| 19:30.02 | johndo | boudiccas: you can get the old device name back by removing /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules and reboot again |
| 19:31.12 | boudiccas | johndo; now that sounds complicated! could i just rename it, boot with new burner in situ and bobs your uncle? |
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| 19:33.23 | johndo | boudiccas: sure you can rename the device, but after next boot udev wins again ;) |
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| 19:33.39 | boudiccas | ha! |
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| 19:33.54 | mete888 | hi |
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| 19:35.23 | ompaul | wwdebia.org |
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| 19:35.33 | berenica | Hi, I have laptop Belinea, VIA Technologies, and have problem with Wi-Fi, can anyone help me fast ? |
| 19:35.38 | ompaul | blinks |
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| 19:36.52 | berenica | ...any idea? |
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| 19:37.20 | somiaj | berenica: what is your problem with wifi? What is your wifi card, have you checke d the debian wiki for it? Have you installed the non-free firmware? Have you noticed any errors in dmesg? Plenty of things you can do to let us know what the problem could be |
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| 19:38.12 | berenica | where I can paste the code ? sry I'm noob |
| 19:38.46 | berenica | in dmesg, phy1 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. something like this I have |
| 19:39.11 | somiaj | berenica: then you are missing the non-free firmware |
| 19:39.17 | somiaj | !non-free |
| 19:39.17 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>, or are encumbered by patents or other legal issues. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system run "aptitude search '~i~scontrib'". For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 19:39.33 | somiaj | !tell berenica non-free sources |
| 19:39.38 | somiaj | !tell berenica about non-free sources |
| 19:39.47 | rly | themill: which package specifically? I have seen _tons_ of bugs reported for it. |
| 19:40.09 | somiaj | berenica: if it can't find firmware, should be as simple as installing the package. looks like a relatek card, so realtek-firmware is the package name. |
| 19:40.14 | themill | rly: umm... for what? |
| 19:40.42 | somiaj | berenica: sorry its 'firmware-realtek' |
| 19:40.54 | berenica | ok I will chek it |
| 19:41.54 | rly | themill: for the graphics driver. |
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| 19:42.31 | themill | rly: you've seen tons of bugs reported for xserver-xorg-video-intel from backports? |
| 19:43.11 | somiaj | rly: I've seen people get sandybridge support from installing a backported kernel and xorg (multiple packages for this) |
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| 19:43.40 | rly | themill: no, for git versions. |
| 19:43.45 | themill | rly: I clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Please try again. |
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| 19:44.17 | rly | themill: Intel's official page shows some experiences that people have had. It's not exactly 'everything works' more like hit and miss. |
| 19:44.46 | rly | themill: git versions of the Linux kernel, which is supposed to have the latest and greatest version at various points in time. |
| 19:44.48 | jelly-home | rly: that's _always_ been the case with video-intel! |
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| 19:45.30 | rly | jelly-home: so? |
| 19:45.42 | jelly-home | rly: so it means not much |
| 19:45.50 | rly | jelly-home: or rather, why would that be the case? It hasn't been that case with nvidia hardware. |
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| 19:46.18 | rly | ATI hardware drivers have also always sucked (either in features or in stability). |
| 19:46.29 | derik | where i get a debian image for virtualbox ? i whant to be preinstalated |
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| 19:47.14 | jelly-home | rly: I can't guess about video-intel developing cycle, just offer an observation about the State of the Driver, 2007-2011 |
| 19:47.25 | rly | jelly-home: also: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=65043 |
| 19:47.31 | s3a | Is it possible to have the old gnome style panels in gnome 3 AND to have the new fancy stuff when you hover over "Activities" at the same time? |
| 19:47.36 | themill | rly: you asked about sandybridge support in stable; both somiaj and I pointed you in the direction of backports for kernel and xorg that seem to work fine for sandybridge machines. Now you're talking about git versions of each of them... |
| 19:48.01 | jelly-home | rly: again, try it and see |
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| 19:48.28 | jelly-home | or buy generation-1 hardware |
| 19:48.59 | rly | themill: that forum post talks about Squeeze 6.01. |
| 19:49.31 | rly | themill: the probability that they fixed all bugs in just a few months seems rather low. |
| 19:50.03 | themill | rly: and what does that have to do with git versions of drivers? And you're not talking about "just a few months" you're talking about ~18 months |
| 19:50.03 | rly | themill: you are essentially saying "At some point there were lots of bugs and now suddently there are zero". |
| 19:50.11 | rly | themill: that forum post is 5 months ago. |
| 19:50.25 | themill | rly: no, I'm saying "the drivers in backports work" and you're saying lots of things that I don't follow. |
| 19:51.35 | rly | themill: and where is the bug page for that backport? |
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| 19:52.00 | themill | rly: have you looked at the instructions for backports yet? |
| 19:52.13 | rly | themill: I did, just didn't look for bugs. |
| 19:52.17 | rly | themill: I will do that now. |
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| 19:53.40 | somiaj | why are you looking for bugs? If you look for bug reports you will find them, this dosen't mean that you won't get sandy bridge support working on your machine. |
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| 19:54.33 | rly | somiaj: that's not how I see it. |
| 19:54.45 | rly | somiaj: either it works in all cases or it doesn't. |
| 19:54.50 | themill | rly: it doesn't. |
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| 19:57.27 | pmade | If I disconnect my USB keyboard, it's not recognized when I plug it back in. I have to ssh in and reboot. Google hasn't been helpful. Any suggestions? |
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| 19:58.57 | rly | pmade: try a different keyboard and different port. |
| 19:59.14 | rly | pmade: did it ever work? |
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| 20:00.01 | pmade | rly: I only have the one keyboard, but I haven't tried another port yet. This has been the behavior since I build this workstation. |
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| 20:00.29 | somiaj | pmade: does this only happen in X? Can you say disable X and it works just fine in the console? |
| 20:00.36 | derik | what GUI have debian ? |
| 20:00.49 | pmade | somiaj: nope, it happens in the console too. |
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| 20:01.33 | derik | why ubuntu is easy to use than debian |
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| 20:03.32 | somiaj | derik: by default gnome is the standard desktop in debian, but you can use any desktop/wm in whcih there are 10-20 (at least) in debian. |
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| 20:05.07 | ParkerR | Is there a kernel moduel for the Linksys wmp54gx wireless card? |
| 20:05.14 | ParkerR | *module |
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| 20:08.27 | modnar | chipset? |
| 20:08.37 | diniwed | anyone using an HHK pro2 keyboard? |
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| 20:09.04 | somiaj | ParkerR: yea use lspci / lshw to determine which wireless chipset is on that card. wmp54g? seems to very on which chipset they use |
| 20:09.22 | ParkerR | Ok one sec |
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| 20:10.28 | ParkerR | somiaj, seems it uses "05:09.0 Ethernet controller: Airgo Networks Inc AGN100 802.11 a/b/g True MIMO Wireless Card (rev 03)" |
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| 20:12.01 | somiaj | !agn100 |
| 20:12.02 | dpkg | agnx is an experimental mac80211 driver for Airgo Networks' AGN100 and AGN300 wireless LAN chipsets. Performance for AGN100 is currently poor, support for AGN300 is in progress. http://sf.net/projects/agnx80211driver/ . Use <git> to acquire the latest source from http://git.sipsolutions.net/agnx.git . See also <ndiswrapper>. |
| 20:12.14 | somiaj | though that factoid seems a bit old, haven't seen many things use ndiswrapper much anymore. |
| 20:12.53 | s3a | is it possible to have two panels in gnome 3 without being in fallback mode? |
| 20:13.13 | somiaj | s3a: I'd ask in #gnome -- probabaly get people with more familarty with it. |
| 20:13.32 | ParkerR | somiaj, It's *working* with ndiswrapper but when switching to and tty 1-7 there are a bunch of error messages. |
| 20:13.39 | ParkerR | *any |
| 20:14.10 | ParkerR | Makes the tty's usueless |
| 20:14.11 | s3a | somiaj, alright. |
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| 20:16.09 | ParkerR | somiaj, same error as http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/linux-hangs-after-having-installed-wmp54gx-linksys-driver-in-ndiswrapper-518305/ except it doesnt hang |
| 20:16.29 | somiaj | ParkerR: well only thing I know is what dpkg told me, 'support is poor' |
| 20:16.53 | ParkerR | Yeah |
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| 20:20.20 | boudiccas | hmm, since messing around with vlc and mplayer earlier on tonight, with jelly-home help, i've lost sound on playing avi files |
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| 20:20.48 | boudiccas | anyone any idea how to get it back please? |
| 20:20.52 | somiaj | boudiccas: any errors? Could you have a dead process holding the sound card so a new process can't access it (many cards don't have hardware mixing) |
| 20:21.22 | boudiccas | somiaj; i just run the GUI of vlc and get no sound |
| 20:21.39 | somiaj | boudiccas: check top/ps fax to see if you have any vlc/mplayer processes running |
| 20:21.40 | boudiccas | but i'll check out the dead process sort of thing |
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| 20:21.43 | jelly-home | !list alsa users |
| 20:21.43 | dpkg | To see what processes are using (and perhaps blocking) your sound device: ps `lsof +D /dev -F rt | awk '/^p/ {pid=$1} /^t/ {type=$1} /^r0x74..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid} /^r0xe..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid}' | cut -c 2- | uniq`. Alternatively, fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer |
| 20:21.45 | CruX| | boudiccas: and audio output is alsa ? |
| 20:23.24 | boudiccas | jelly-h |
| 20:23.58 | boudiccas | jelly-home; fuser shows pulse-audio but there are no dead processes still running |
| 20:25.10 | jelly-home | boudiccas: if you are using pulseaudio as output, make your apps use their native PA support as well. |
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| 20:25.12 | boudiccas | CruX|; how do i check please? i dont see it in top |
| 20:25.36 | jelly-home | boudiccas: if you don't want it, run "pactl exit", verify it died, and uninstall it |
| 20:25.45 | boudiccas | jelly-home; ok, how do i do that please? |
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| 20:26.12 | jelly-home | boudiccas: mplayer has a "-ao pulse" |
| 20:26.23 | boudiccas | it seems to be what the sound card likes, as shown in fuser |
| 20:26.41 | jelly-home | this can be put as "ao = pulse" in ~/.mplayer/config |
| 20:27.09 | boudiccas | jelly-home; does vlc have a similar command, as thats my program of choice for video output |
| 20:27.13 | jelly-home | the sound card is indifferent towards pulseaudio |
| 20:27.29 | jelly-home | boudiccas: it probably has, somewhere in its settings |
| 20:27.36 | jelly-home | does* |
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| 20:28.09 | spal | Is phpDocumentor <http://www.phpdoc.org/> available for Debian? |
| 20:28.22 | jelly-home | boudiccas: I don't know where. |
| 20:28.23 | boudiccas | k, let me have a search for it then |
| 20:28.32 | boudiccas | thanks, anyway |
| 20:28.52 | Bublik2002 | im trying to do a clean install of debian 6.0.3 squeeze on my laptop... i chose graphical install.... it gets to detect network hardware and tells me to proved firmware.... i download the correct files and put them on a usb stick but when i click yes to continue it doesnt seem to find them |
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| 20:29.17 | Bublik2002 | provide* |
| 20:29.49 | Bublik2002 | i put the tar.gz file on the usb stick as well as the uncompressed just in cas |
| 20:29.50 | Bublik2002 | e |
| 20:30.04 | somiaj | Bublik2002: you should get the debian firmware package from non-free |
| 20:30.35 | polygons | hey guys, i'm trying to install nvidia legacy 173 drivers. it says this "Set a VERSION variable, which the rest of the instructions will refer to, to "-legacy-96xx", "-legacy-173xx" or an empty string." |
| 20:30.37 | karlpinc | somiaj: That would solve the problem if he's getting the wrong firmware packages. |
| 20:30.45 | polygons | so how do i set a VERSION variable? |
| 20:30.46 | somiaj | Bublik2002: another option is to install the base system (even the netinstall has the base system on the disc), after the base system is isntalled, get your network working with the right firmware then rerun taskel/finish the install of teh software |
| 20:31.12 | Bublik2002 | ok i guess let me try to install the base first |
| 20:31.18 | Bublik2002 | i downloaded the dvd image |
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| 20:34.11 | johndo | polygons: if an environment variable is meant, type into the shell where you install the driver: export VERSION='-legacy-173xx' |
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| 20:40.50 | Bublik2002 | i dont understand why people says that the debian install is not user friendly.. so far it seems pretty straight forward to me |
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| 20:41.16 | Vasistha | Bublik2002: people who say that probably haven't used it in a while. nowadays it is pretty darn easy. |
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| 20:41.33 | Vasistha | Bublik2002: although admittedly it's a little confusing knowing what is going to be installed when you use tasksel |
| 20:41.39 | Bublik2002 | im just hoping i dont have a problem setting up my wireless when its done |
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| 20:42.03 | Bublik2002 | it found my intel wireless card and asked me for the SSID and the wep but wouldnt connect for some reason |
| 20:42.04 | karlpinc | Bublik2002: I can't say regards the installer, at one point it was not "graphical" and therefore fearsome. However, debian is "hard" because it's all free by default. So you actually have to flip a switch to get non-free stuff. That's the hard part. |
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| 20:43.09 | Bublik2002 | hopefully its not rocketscience |
| 20:43.11 | Vasistha | karlpinc: I wonder if the debian team would consider making a special release that has that switch already flipped. Even if it's netinst only... |
| 20:43.25 | Bublik2002 | yeah that would make so much sense |
| 20:43.39 | babilen | Vasistha: If you install in expert mode you are asked which suites to include in sources.list |
| 20:43.39 | Bublik2002 | it would compete much more with mint/ubuntu/fedora |
| 20:43.42 | Vasistha | Bublik2002: it's not bad at all, anyone in here can tell you what to do. it's not, like, "obvious", though |
| 20:44.00 | Bublik2002 | oh hey whats up babilen |
| 20:44.05 | Vasistha | babilen: well, that doesn't really help newbies who are obviously not going to install in expert mode :P |
| 20:44.22 | somiaj | Vasistha: there are unoffical installers that have the non-free frimware by default as well. |
| 20:44.22 | boudiccas | right, i've got sound but very faint. i've maxed all the speaker controls that i cna find in gnome but its still very faint. top shows it as pulseaudio |
| 20:44.29 | babilen | Vasistha: Well, expert mode is really "Show me all the options"-mode :) |
| 20:44.33 | boudiccas | and i'm watching a film in vlc |
| 20:44.40 | abrotman | Vasistha: there's already an unoffical installer with all of the firmware |
| 20:44.54 | nag | 'flipping the switch' is trivial... append to sources.list |
| 20:45.10 | Vasistha | nag: but you have to know what to do |
| 20:46.16 | abrotman | it's not that freaking hard |
| 20:46.29 | Bublik2002 | is the unofficial installer LMDE :)?: |
| 20:46.35 | abrotman | if you're not interested in learning, there are distros and other OSes for that |
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| 20:46.42 | abrotman | Bublik2002: uh no ... LMDE is not Debian |
| 20:47.11 | Bublik2002 | you didnt notice the smiley afterwards? |
| 20:47.19 | Vasistha | abrotman: what is that unofficial installer? |
| 20:47.38 | abrotman | !tell Vasistha about installer firmware |
| 20:47.58 | abrotman | !tell Vasistha about firmware images |
| 20:48.00 | abrotman | there we go |
| 20:48.01 | Vasistha | thanks, abrotman |
| 20:48.18 | Bublik2002 | do that command for me too... im curious |
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| 20:48.28 | Vasistha | Bublik2002: /msg dpkg firmware images |
| 20:48.35 | abrotman | !tell Bublik2002 about selftell |
| 20:48.37 | derik | how i install a .deb ? |
| 20:48.45 | Vasistha | derik: dpkg -i something.deb |
| 20:48.47 | alexxio_ | hi |
| 20:49.03 | Vasistha | derik: use caution, though |
| 20:49.17 | Vasistha | derik: trojans and viruses come mysterious .deb's |
| 20:49.24 | Vasistha | come "from" |
| 20:49.51 | alexxio_ | when i start my headless server, it comes : 1)without a wpa_supplicant script set and 2)with wlan0 network down. how can i make that at boot time ifconfig wlan0 up automatically and wpa supplicant auto loaded? |
| 20:49.58 | Bert_2 | Hi, I want to install a package that is dependent on Xserver-packages on a headless server, how can I have apt-get or aptitude ignore some of the dependencies of the package (I know it will work as the developer has published docs about how to use the commands behind the GUI) ? |
| 20:50.02 | Bublik2002 | babilen: what didnt you tell me about this firmware unofficial image when i was bugging you about debian the other day :( |
| 20:50.41 | derik | i whant to install google chrome |
| 20:50.46 | Bublik2002 | the dvd image i downloaded just installed 1135 packages.. hope thats normal |
| 20:50.56 | Vasistha | alexxio_: /etc/network/interfaces is where you need to be working. your wlan0 line should start with the word "auto" which means automatically bring it up |
| 20:51.06 | abrotman | Bert_2: just install it .. the X libs themselves are harmless |
| 20:51.35 | alexxio_ | tnx wasista, and for the 2nd point? |
| 20:51.59 | derik | why i can`t find google chrome in aptitude ? |
| 20:52.07 | Vasistha | Bert_2: also you can set it up to not automatically install "recommends" which might take out some extraneous stuff |
| 20:52.13 | somiaj | derik: because its not free or distribuatlbe from debian |
| 20:52.19 | somiaj | derik: use the opensource core, chroimum |
| 20:52.21 | Bublik2002 | ewww it comes with openoffice? weak |
| 20:52.21 | abrotman | Vasistha: won't really work |
| 20:52.27 | somiaj | derik: chromium |
| 20:52.31 | babilen | Bublik2002: The semi-unofficial image is just another <netinst> image, which wasn't appropriate for you. (due to you not being able to connect via ethernet/disable wpa* encryption on your wireless) |
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| 20:52.50 | Bublik2002 | babilen: oh i gotcha :) |
| 20:52.52 | babilen | Bublik2002: You can install libreoffice from backports if that is what you want. |
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| 20:53.01 | Vasistha | alexxio_: it's been a long time since I set up wpa_supplicant to work through /etc/network/interfaces, I always use wicd nowadays :P |
| 20:53.12 | Bert_2 | abrotman Vasistha: I'm trying to save as much space as possible, no need for 285MB of silly libraries like x11-xserver-utils and libqt4-xml when I'm not using any kind of gui ;) I'll try your tip Vasistha |
| 20:53.18 | Vasistha | although recently I've been a little frustrated with its sustained buginess |
| 20:53.19 | Bublik2002 | i dont use office applications anyway.. im a poker player ... just heard openoffice wasnt as good |
| 20:53.47 | abrotman | Bert_2: the app won't run without them .. |
| 20:53.48 | derik | i install chromium but didn`t apear chrome :( |
| 20:53.50 | babilen | Bublik2002: Well, you can install it from http://backports-master.debian.org/ if you want it. |
| 20:53.50 | Vasistha | Bert_2: the other thing you can do it use aptitude's front-end and go through and cull the stuff you don't need before actually installing |
| 20:53.57 | Bublik2002 | babilen: im almost done with the install :) |
| 20:53.58 | alexxio_ | tnx!! ;) |
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| 20:54.09 | Vasistha | derik: you already installed chromium? then you should try running chromium |
| 20:54.16 | Bublik2002 | lol |
| 20:54.25 | babilen | Bublik2002: Sure, that is something to do later anyway. |
| 20:54.28 | Bert_2 | abrotman: I have clear documentation that it will, the gui won't run without them but the small programs behind the gui will, it's even documented by the maker of the application |
| 20:54.29 | derik | Vasistha , didn`t apear in aplication |
| 20:54.44 | Bert_2 | Vasistha: cull ? |
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| 20:54.53 | Vasistha | derik: try alt+f2 and then type chromium |
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| 20:55.03 | abrotman | Bert_2: that's a bit different ..sounds likea monolithic package from a 3rd party |
| 20:55.25 | Vasistha | Bert_2: cull, verb, remove something that has been rejected |
| 20:55.52 | Bert_2 | abrotman: Package: Calibre Maintainer: Miriam Ruiz |
| 20:55.54 | derik | Vasistha apear only chromium BSU, but is a game |
| 20:56.21 | somiaj | Bert_2: what package? If it is possible to compile the package without the xlib dependencies then you may have to compile your own package, but the headders/compiler/libs to do that may take up more than 250megs of space. |
| 20:56.21 | Vasistha | derik: just press enter? |
| 20:56.21 | Bert_2 | Vasistha: k, sorry, didn't know the word, now let's go through aptitudes man-page to get this going :p |
| 20:56.34 | derik | yes |
| 20:56.43 | Vasistha | derik: okay another thing to do is go to a bash terminal and type this: which chromium |
| 20:56.49 | Bert_2 | somiaj: the application comes with the gui and the functions seperated into multiple scripts |
| 20:57.00 | Bublik2002 | mmm booted up in debian for the first time... what a sexy wallpaper |
| 20:57.00 | johndo | derik: package is chromium-browser |
| 20:57.00 | somiaj | Vasistha: it may be called chromium-browser on stable still. |
| 20:57.22 | ParkerR | Anyone one here used an ati radeon 9600 in debian? |
| 20:57.26 | Vasistha | Bert_2: aptitude's manpage should be replaced by less /usr/share/aptitude/README (IIRC) |
| 20:57.47 | Bert_2 | Vasistha: sure, just need to find out how to lock those dependencies :p |
| 20:58.05 | Bert_2 | somiaj: it's documented on multiple blogposts: http://m0dlx.com/blog/Automated_news_articles_on_the_Kindle_using_headless_Calibre.html |
| 20:58.13 | derik | thanks Johannes` |
| 20:58.24 | derik | thanks johndo |
| 20:58.39 | polygons | johndo, thanks sorry i had to run. i still can't figure out how to install the 173 nvidia drivers. this is what module-assistant says: |
| 20:58.42 | polygons | module-assistant, error message "Installation of the nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-source source failed. Ignoring this package. Maybe you need to add something to sources.list, maybe the contrib and non-free archives. |
| 20:58.48 | Vasistha | !tell ParkerR about ask |
| 20:59.03 | Bublik2002 | ok guys im booted up... how do i configure my wireless card |
| 20:59.12 | ParkerR | Vasistha, I did just ask. |
| 20:59.15 | Bublik2002 | i have the drivers on a usb stick plugged in |
| 20:59.33 | somiaj | Bublik2002: you mean the firmware debian package, somethig like firmware-foo.deb? |
| 20:59.37 | Vasistha | !tell ParkerR about anyone |
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| 20:59.54 | johndo | polygons: sorry, haven't installed old nvidia-drivers myself, so i probably cannot help you there |
| 21:00.02 | Vasistha | ParkerR: sorry wrong factoid |
| 21:00.16 | polygons | johndo, ok thanks |
| 21:00.25 | ParkerR | Ok here it goes: how does one setup an ATI Radeon 9600 in Debian? |
| 21:00.36 | polygons | anyone know how to install legacy nvidia drivers version 173? |
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| 21:00.53 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: got it from here http://intellinuxwireless.org/iwlwifi/d ... 21.4.1.tgz |
| 21:00.56 | somiaj | polygons: there are legacy nvidia packages in debian. |
| 21:01.11 | polygons | right, in lenny? |
| 21:01.21 | polygons | i added lenny non-free contrib |
| 21:01.22 | somiaj | Bublik2002: you can copy the firmware file directally into /lib/firmware/ but you should install the debian package if you can |
| 21:01.27 | abrotman | Bert_2: cute .. but okay |
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| 21:01.55 | karlpinc | ParkerR: Tell us the pciid. |
| 21:01.57 | jelly-home | ,versions nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-source |
| 21:01.58 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-source on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 173.14.27-2; sid/non-free: 173.14.31-1 |
| 21:02.00 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: where do i get the .deb? |
| 21:02.01 | karlpinc | !tell ParkerR about pciid |
| 21:02.09 | somiaj | Bublik2002: packages.debian.org |
| 21:02.11 | Bert_2 | abrotman: well, the problem is that it is a gui app, but I personally think the backbone should be in another package to permit people to run it as a server service |
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| 21:02.30 | alexxio_ | wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start at boot...someone can help me understanding ow can i check? |
| 21:02.31 | ParkerR | "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]" |
| 21:02.48 | karlpinc | ParkerR: You did not use -nn with lspci. |
| 21:02.48 | jelly-home | polygons: in lenny, you ONLY have nvidia-glx 173. |
| 21:02.54 | polygons | jelly-home. ah |
| 21:03.00 | polygons | ok, use what then instead of lenny |
| 21:03.02 | polygons | ? |
| 21:03.13 | ParkerR | karlpinc, I ran that before you sent me the factoid sorry |
| 21:03.16 | ParkerR | One sec |
| 21:03.21 | jelly-home | polygons: sorry? Which Debian release do you have installed? |
| 21:03.31 | polygons | errr, LMDE :-( |
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| 21:03.35 | polygons | not for long though :-) |
| 21:03.39 | Vasistha | Bert_2: you're looking at the package called calibre? |
| 21:03.53 | ParkerR | "[1002:4152]" |
| 21:04.01 | derik | debian have a task manager ? |
| 21:04.07 | derik | like on windows |
| 21:04.10 | polygons | jelly-home, but i'm on testing somehow |
| 21:04.16 | jelly-home | polygons: if you're asking which Debian to install, the answer is likely "debian 6, the current one (squeeze)" |
| 21:04.20 | nkuttler | derik: top/htop/footop |
| 21:04.27 | somiaj | derik: top / ps fax / even some gui's to give you the list of running processes |
| 21:04.27 | Vasistha | ParkerR: my lappy I'm using now has a radeon 9600, it works fine out-of-the-box |
| 21:04.39 | polygons | jelly-home i'm asking where to get the nvidia legacy drivers? |
| 21:04.43 | ParkerR | Vasistha, well I was wanting a little hardware accelration |
| 21:04.46 | Bert_2 | Vasistha: not looking, i'm currently kinda hating it because it is dependend on stuff it doesn't 100% need |
| 21:04.49 | Vasistha | derik: are you using gnome or kde? |
| 21:04.50 | polygons | jelly-home, which source to add |
| 21:04.52 | ParkerR | I know its not a great card but.. |
| 21:04.57 | derik | Vasistha gnome |
| 21:04.59 | jelly-home | polygons: I won't offer any suggestions for your current LMDE. Ask in a channel appropriate for Mint. |
| 21:05.13 | jelly-home | don't want to break that, no idea what they changed |
| 21:05.16 | jelly-home | !lmde |
| 21:05.17 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 21:05.27 | karlpinc | ,pciid [1002:4152] |
| 21:05.28 | judd | [1002:4152] is 'RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'radeonfb', 'radeon' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:4152 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 21:05.38 | Vasistha | derik: I know in kde you can get to one with ctrl-alt-esc, not sure if that will work in gnome. You can also get the CLI htop, which I tend to prefer |
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| 21:06.27 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-iwlwifi im here and i cant figure out how to get hte .deb |
| 21:06.28 | derik | how i install kde |
| 21:06.32 | Vasistha | Bert_2: did you check out calibre-bin ? |
| 21:06.34 | abrotman | Bert_2: FWIW, you may want to file a wishlist bug |
| 21:06.41 | abrotman | !tell derik about install kde |
| 21:06.42 | johndo | derik: try gnome-system-monitor |
| 21:06.52 | karlpinc | ParkerR: So, those are the drivers. You should just be able to install the packages and then it should work. |
| 21:06.58 | somiaj | Bublik2002: near the bottom there is a Download header, downlaod the file for the 'all' architecture |
| 21:07.00 | Vasistha | Bert_2: wait, that's no good, it's still pulling qt4 libs |
| 21:07.08 | Bert_2 | abrotman: okey, I'll consider that |
| 21:07.08 | ParkerR | karlpinc, ok what packages would they be? |
| 21:07.17 | Vasistha | derik: dude, you do not need to install kde to get past this |
| 21:07.19 | nkuttler | !tell Bublik2002 about non-free |
| 21:07.33 | abrotman | Bert_2: wait .. wasn't that the program in the ugly bug flareup ? |
| 21:07.35 | Bert_2 | Vasistha: also, calibre-bin is just some plugin stuff, I checked the file contents, it's pretty odd, I think the name is kind of off |
| 21:07.40 | Bublik2002 | oh durr.. sorry |
| 21:07.48 | abrotman | Bert_2: yeah it was |
| 21:07.52 | karlpinc | ParkerR: apt-file says xserver-xorg-video-radeon for the radeon driver. I'll let you use apt-file to search for the rest. |
| 21:08.29 | Bert_2 | abrotman: I have no idea, some friend of mine is using it and asked whether I could put it on my server for some stuff, and I said "sure, let's hope it's not dependend on everything", I wasn't lucky, so what's all this bug flareup stuff ? |
| 21:09.17 | abrotman | Bert_2: without going into too many details .. google "calibre bug ubuntu" .. i'm sure you'll get a reddit hit or something |
| 21:09.46 | boudiccas | right, i've removed vlc with apt-get, done an autoremove, done a purge, and then reinstalled vlc. i now have sound from the left earphone and very faint. how or where do i increase the sound please? this is using squeeze, gnome and pulseaudio |
| 21:09.52 | ParkerR | karlpinc, umm "bash: apt-file: command not found" |
| 21:10.13 | Vasistha | derik: gnome definitely has a task manager, I just don't know how to get at it |
| 21:10.19 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: do i need to reboot after install? |
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| 21:10.32 | derik | thanks Vasistha :D |
| 21:10.34 | Bert_2 | abrotman: all bugs I see are related to naming or other trivial stuff, the core stuff doesn't seem broken |
| 21:10.34 | somiaj | Bublik2002: no you can just rmmod / modprovbe the wireless module and it will load the firmware |
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| 21:10.55 | jelly-home | ParkerR: install it, run apt-file update, then apt-file search for stuff |
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| 21:10.59 | Vasistha | derik: it's called gnome-system-monitor I guess |
| 21:11.03 | abrotman | Bert_2: that's not what i'm referring to |
| 21:11.05 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: i just installed with gdebi |
| 21:11.18 | Vasistha | derik: you can bind it to ctrl-alt-del or ctrl-alt-esc if you like, instructions here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20355/use-ctrlaltdel-for-task-manager-in-linux-to-kill-tasks-easily/ |
| 21:11.33 | Vasistha | derik: did you *try* ctrl-alt-esc? |
| 21:11.46 | somiaj | Bublik2002: gdebi? you should dpkg -i file.deb to install the deb file you downlaoded, then 'rmmod foo && modprove foo' where foo is the name of the wireless module |
| 21:11.48 | abrotman | Bert_2: append "885027" to your search |
| 21:11.57 | babilen | Bublik2002: Didn't you have an AR5008 wireless adaptor? Are you installing on a different host now? |
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| 21:12.32 | Bublik2002 | babilen: thats on my desktop... i just did the install on my dell e6410 laptop... going to do the desktop next |
| 21:12.35 | derik | Vasistha yes |
| 21:12.41 | derik | but didn`t work |
| 21:12.52 | babilen | Bublik2002: Ah, ok. I was confused for a second :) |
| 21:13.03 | Bert_2 | abrotman: okey, that looks ugly, real ugly, but apparently it's fixed |
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| 21:13.26 | Vasistha | derik: well anyway, I would imagine there is an easy way to get to it. #gnome on irc.gnome.org can help you! |
| 21:13.37 | mehrdadii | heloooooooo |
| 21:13.39 | Bert_2 | abrotman: probably not fixed in debian though, cause it was an upstream fix |
| 21:13.46 | derik | thanks Vasistha |
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| 21:14.09 | boudiccas | right, i've removed vlc with apt-get, done an autoremove, done a purge, and then reinstalled vlc. i now have sound from the left earphone and very faint. how or where do i increase the sound please? this is using squeeze, gnome and pulseaudio |
| 21:14.09 | mehrdadii | how to install flash playar for browser??????????? |
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| 21:14.40 | mmm4m5m | Hi. I have one question, please! I am reading how to build debian kernel. I want to generate _exactly_ the same kernel like "linux-image-2.6.32-5-kirkwood" (for example). Just plus one single small/tiny change/patch. Now, I am wondering if I am on the right way... The steps described here "http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html" - looks complicated... It appears like I have to do this over and over again every |
| 21:14.56 | mehrdadii | help me??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 21:14.58 | abrotman | Bert_2: the problem was with teh software developer .. |
| 21:14.59 | babilen | mehrdadii: Enable <contrib> in your sources and install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:15.08 | babilen | !tell mehrdadii -about adobe flash |
| 21:15.08 | abrotman | Bert_2: read the whole bug .. it's kind of sad |
| 21:15.20 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: i did the dpkg command |
| 21:15.25 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: making your own kernel is not the easiest thing to do. Is your patch really that important? What is it you need? |
| 21:15.34 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: now rmmod what? |
| 21:15.44 | babilen | mehrdadii: Just make sure your deb/deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list end in "main contrib non-free", run "apt-get update" and install the flashplugin-nonfree package. |
| 21:15.45 | Bublik2002 | the .deb file |
| 21:15.46 | somiaj | Bublik2002: what is the name of the wirless module (I don't know what its called for your card) |
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| 21:16.00 | mehrdadii | babilen: must save in sources.list? |
| 21:16.05 | Bublik2002 | iwlwifi |
| 21:16.16 | somiaj | Bublik2002: so rmmod iwlwifi && modprove iwlwifi |
| 21:16.19 | babilen | mehrdadii: yes, you have to save your sources.list after editing it. |
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| 21:16.30 | somiaj | Bublik2002: then check dmesg to make sure it loaded your firmware |
| 21:16.31 | mehrdadii | babilen: ok |
| 21:16.34 | mehrdadii | babilen: i see |
| 21:16.36 | mmm4m5m | Vasistha: it is iConnect iOmega device ... something wrong with arcNumber (network , leds, hardware buttons). I will try to fix that. But first I want to prepare for that - to be able to generate exactly the same kernel |
| 21:16.37 | babilen | Bublik2002: "modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi" |
| 21:16.38 | somiaj | Bublik2002: and its modprobe (I hit 'v' on accident' |
| 21:16.39 | boudiccas | its going to be a poor christmas if i cant get sound working again :( right, i've removed vlc with apt-get, done an autoremove, done a purge, and then reinstalled vlc. i now have sound from the left earphone and very faint. how or where do i increase the sound please? this is using squeeze, gnome and pulseaudio |
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| 21:17.01 | pythonsnake | What's the default ssh port? |
| 21:17.05 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: it says it doesnt exist in /pro/modules |
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| 21:17.16 | babilen | mehrdadii: Should look something like "deb http://ftp.CC.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free" (CC is your country's code) |
| 21:17.41 | Vasistha | !tell mmm4m5m about kp mantra |
| 21:18.12 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: have you already downloaded the kernel sources via apt-get source ? |
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| 21:18.31 | somiaj | Bublik2002: Is that the right name for the module then? dmesg should ahve told you the module name. If can you just modprobe the module since it wasn't loaded in the first place? |
| 21:18.35 | nsadmin | pythonsnake, /etc/services |
| 21:18.38 | johndo | pythonsnake: grep ssh /etc/services |
| 21:18.45 | Bert_2 | abrotman: okey, it's pretty clear this programmer is incompetent, this app is no longer an option... |
| 21:19.04 | pythonsnake | thanks |
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| 21:19.16 | mmm4m5m | Vasistha: yes, I did it... but reading few steps ahead from the book... For example "apt-get build-dep linux-2.6" will download 180 new packages = 1gb space :) |
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| 21:19.46 | abrotman | Bert_2: you should read teh whole thing .. it gets better .. (good better, not sarcastic better). .. but yeah, not sure i'd use it either |
| 21:19.50 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: it said Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) |
| 21:19.56 | mmm4m5m | Vasistha: In host PC I have device stock kernel + toolchain already ... but it does not help me without kernel sources + patch sets + architecture patches + (eventual) features |
| 21:20.25 | boudiccas | jelly-home; you said at 2025 ........ jelly-home> boudiccas: if you don't want it, run "pactl exit", verify it died, and uninstall it ....... what will then play sound please? |
| 21:20.55 | somiaj | Bublik2002: that is the package name. What is the actual name of the kernel module that runs your card (I don't really want to look it up for you). |
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| 21:20.59 | babilen | Bublik2002: Looks good -- Run "modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi ; dmesg | tail -n 23" and check what it says about firmware. |
| 21:21.12 | mmm4m5m | Vasistha: Just this one question - Does all this means that I am the right track? Everything is correct, I could continue... (and some day I will memorize all steps :) ? |
| 21:21.24 | babilen | Bublik2002: Err, no that is not the correct module name. Which card do you have? |
| 21:21.31 | somiaj | Bublik2002: seems the drivers are iwl3945 or iwlagn by http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-iwlwifi |
| 21:21.40 | babilen | somiaj: Exactly |
| 21:21.42 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: I'm not sure, honestly. I haven't compiled a kernel in many years. |
| 21:21.59 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: I really wish there was a way for you to proceed without needing to recompile your kernel. |
| 21:22.16 | mehrdadii | babilen: can i use us server? |
| 21:22.43 | Bert_2 | abrotman: I'm nearly at the end but i just don't feel like this app is just anywhere near trustworthy |
| 21:22.48 | babilen | mehrdadii: Sure, use the fastest server for you. ftp.us.debian.org is certainly an option. Where do you live? |
| 21:22.54 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: maintaining your own kernel is kind of a pain. I had to do it in the past when I had a buggy touchpad firmware that absolutely would not work with the stock kernel. |
| 21:23.17 | mehrdadii | babilen: in iran |
| 21:23.30 | mehrdadii | babilen: soory ;-( |
| 21:23.41 | Vasistha | !tell mehrdadii about mirror list |
| 21:23.42 | mehrdadii | babilen: sorry |
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| 21:23.52 | Bublik2002 | babilen: it says intel pro wireless 3945ABG attached |
| 21:23.56 | jelly-home | boudiccas: alsa-capable apps by themselves |
| 21:24.01 | mehrdadii | babilen: idont know mirror list |
| 21:24.14 | Vasistha | mehrdadii: did you get a pm from dpkg? |
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| 21:24.21 | babilen | mehrdadii: yeah, found that already. No idea, but Turkey mirrors ( ftp.tr.debian.org/debian/ ) might be faster -- You can see a list of mirrors at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 21:24.52 | mmm4m5m | Vasistha: Ok, thanks a lot... Learning howto is fine, I (maybe) enjoy it... But 'redo' steps for having up to date kernel - this looks really hard... Comparing with simple 'make menuconfig' and 'make' |
| 21:25.01 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: i did all those commands and still in gnome when i click on the network settings it doesnt show me the wireless networks near by |
| 21:25.04 | babilen | Bublik2002: In that case run "modprobe -r iwl3945 ; modprobe iwl3945 ; dmesg | tail -n 23" -- Does it reload the driver and does it load the firmware? |
| 21:25.39 | babilen | Bublik2002: After you've done that run "ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan" (as root) -- That should list wireless networks nearby. |
| 21:25.39 | mehrdadii | babilen: ok,are u Linix OS Expert? |
| 21:25.44 | boudiccas | jelly-home; i closed pulseaudio, verified it was closed on top, used apt-get to remove it, now playing a film but still with pulseaudio. how can this be? |
| 21:26.01 | babilen | mehrdadii: I know something about Linux, yes. |
| 21:26.16 | jelly-home | boudiccas: have you verified there was no leftover pulseaudio process |
| 21:26.24 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: yeah, it took me a long time to get it set up, and I wish I had a better recollection of how it was all done. It took an especially long time for me because I only had a 300 MHz processor |
| 21:26.30 | boudiccas | jelly-home; i saw none in top |
| 21:26.35 | Bublik2002 | babilen: that worked but why cant i connect to it in gnome? |
| 21:26.43 | jelly-home | babilen: ps -fe |grep pulse |
| 21:26.49 | jelly-home | boudiccas: ps -fe |grep pulse |
| 21:26.50 | Bublik2002 | babilen: nm it works now :) |
| 21:26.50 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: I'm relatively certain there is some good documentation in debian about how to do it |
| 21:26.52 | mehrdadii | babilan : but,you are is very good |
| 21:27.05 | babilen | Bublik2002: great! |
| 21:27.16 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: one thing I think you'll want to do is figure out exactly which kernel package you want, rather than the generic linux-2.6 |
| 21:27.19 | Bublik2002 | thank you very much |
| 21:27.22 | abrotman | Bert_2: okay, sorry i brought it up |
| 21:27.37 | Bublik2002 | ok let me log into xchat from my debian laptop |
| 21:27.41 | somiaj | Bublik2002: might have to restart network-manager for it to see the device now |
| 21:27.43 | babilen | Bublik2002: Have fun -- May I take a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list for a second? ( http://paste.debian.net ) |
| 21:27.45 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: e.g. I have linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 21:28.09 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: doing an apt-get build-dep on that might pull in less stuff... I'm not sure |
| 21:28.13 | boudiccas | jelly-home; ps -fe |grep pulse boztu 5786 1 5 21:22 ? 00:00:14 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog boztu 6341 3124 0 21:27 pts/1 00:00:00 grep pulse |
| 21:28.15 | Bublik2002 | babilen: yes let me get xchat real quick on that machine |
| 21:28.27 | babilen | Bublik2002: Sure, take your time :) |
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| 21:28.53 | jelly-home | babilen: so, kill it |
| 21:28.56 | jelly-home | ah |
| 21:29.00 | jelly-home | gives up |
| 21:29.17 | babilen | redirects messages to boudiccas |
| 21:29.24 | Bublik2002 | babilen: haha i cant do apt-get cause when i do apt-update it shows the dvd |
| 21:29.25 | jelly-home | boudiccas: so kill it! |
| 21:29.41 | babilen | Bublik2002: Which is exactly what I was after :) |
| 21:29.46 | mmm4m5m | Vasistha: Yes, I understand that. I was thinking source package is already prepared for "linux-image-2.6.26-2-686" (for example). So, a little surprised that first step is different - generic linux-2.6... Thanks again. |
| 21:30.08 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: you know -- there's another package for the kernel source, let me look it up |
| 21:30.12 | boudiccas | jelly-home; right killed, lets try again |
| 21:30.20 | Bublik2002 | babilen: in there it only has deb cdrom |
| 21:30.26 | mehrdadii | babilen: exactly,what i write for install flashplayer in terminal? |
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| 21:31.06 | abrotman | mehrdadii: which distro are you using? |
| 21:31.18 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: yeah, you're probably going to want the package linux-source-2.6 |
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| 21:31.39 | Vasistha | mmm4m5m: ...or something like that |
| 21:32.09 | mmm4m5m | ok. Let me finish this.. Maybe at the end it will not look so hard |
| 21:32.27 | babilen | Bublik2002: Edit your sources.list and put something like http://paste.debian.net/149779/ (I assume that you are in the US based on your hostmask) in there. Run "apt-get update" to get a list of packages in those repositories. |
| 21:32.46 | Bublik2002 | babilen: 149780 debian paste |
| 21:33.11 | darsie | Hi! I'm about to install debian on an Acer Aspire One D257 (dual core Atom 1,66, 320 GB HD). There's a howto for Aspire One, but that's old - for lenny. Should I do something special to install, or just plain installer? |
| 21:34.05 | Bublik2002 | babilen: should i comment out the cdrom? |
| 21:34.06 | boudiccas | jelly-home; right, pulseaudio killed and film rerun. no pulseaudio showing in top, and sound very faint in left ear. using squeeze and gnome, where are the sound comtrols please so that i cna turn the sound up |
| 21:34.14 | Vasistha | darsie: just install, it will probably work fine |
| 21:34.23 | abrotman | darsie: probably just install at this point .. |
| 21:34.23 | jelly-home | boudiccas: not a gnome user |
| 21:34.33 | babilen | Bublik2002: Just remove it, but you can also comment it ... no real reason to keep it though |
| 21:34.33 | darsie | ok, thx |
| 21:34.37 | jelly-home | boudiccas: but there's alsamixer |
| 21:34.41 | babilen | Bublik2002: Just use what I pasted |
| 21:34.45 | boudiccas | k, does anyone know where the sound controls are for gnome please? |
| 21:34.57 | abrotman | boudiccas: in gnome, you can add an applet to the panel to control levels |
| 21:35.01 | boudiccas | jelly-home; k, thanks i'll have a look at it then |
| 21:35.04 | Bublik2002 | babilen: ok adding now |
| 21:35.47 | mehrdadii | abrotman: debian dest. |
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| 21:36.19 | abrotman | Doesn't PA give oyu the options to control volumes per app ? |
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| 21:37.18 | babilen | abrotman: it does |
| 21:37.47 | babilen | boudiccas: For PA you want pavucontrol |
| 21:37.48 | Vasistha | that is a nice feature I have often wished for |
| 21:38.20 | abrotman | Vasistha: are you still running sarge ? |
| 21:38.29 | Vasistha | abrotman: lenny |
| 21:38.47 | babilen | Vasistha: about time to upgrade to squeeze (/msg dpkg release notes) |
| 21:39.17 | Vasistha | babilen: I know. I've just been anticipating a lot of work going from kde3 -> trinity |
| 21:39.33 | babilen | Vasistha: Just use KDE4 |
| 21:39.43 | Vasistha | In the past I have usually upgraded during the testing freeze |
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| 21:40.01 | Vasistha | babilen: I can't stand kde4 :P |
| 21:40.02 | Bublik2002 | babilen: ok i did that and apt-get update... now when i try to do apt-get install xchat its telling me it cant find the package |
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| 21:40.38 | boudiccas | abrotman; applet already on panel bar, and maxed out |
| 21:40.54 | babilen | Bublik2002: Could you paste your sources.list, the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy xchat" and the output of your "apt-get update" run? |
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| 21:41.52 | boudiccas | babilen; i've just removed pulseaudio but i'm willing to reinstall it , just as long as i get sound back at decent levels, else my name is mud for this christmas. my son wont be very happy when he tries to play his christmas video with poor sound |
| 21:42.14 | mehrdadii | abrotman: debian squeez |
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| 21:43.01 | babilen | boudiccas: I haven't followed what you've been up to with jelly-home -- Just wanted to mention pavucontrol for PA |
| 21:43.18 | Bublik2002 | babilen: 149782 |
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| 21:43.36 | Bublik2002 | babilen: when i do apt-cache policy xchat it says package not found |
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| 21:43.45 | boudiccas | babilen; no problem, i'm just reinstalling pulseaudio and will then try pavucontrol |
| 21:43.57 | alabd | !release |
| 21:43.57 | dpkg | Squeeze was released on 2011-02-06. Squeeze is Debian 6.0 and is now considered "stable". Ask me about <install debian>, or <lenny->squeeze> to upgrade from Lenny. See http://www.debian.org/releases/ or <release history> for the latest (and historical) releases. For updates from the Debian Release Team, see http://release.debian.org/ |
| 21:44.14 | babilen | Bublik2002: Your sources.list does *not* contain what I pasted. ( http://paste.debian.net/149779 ) Please use *that* and run "apt-get update" |
| 21:44.27 | jelly-home | boudiccas: the path of Pulseaudio is hard and fraught with peril. Except if it works. |
| 21:44.29 | wethermaker | Is iamben not a little poor humorless asshole? |
| 21:44.45 | phogg | that was fast |
| 21:45.34 | jelly-home | thanks the unseen hand |
| 21:45.48 | alabd | is debian stable secure than freebsd/openbsd ? |
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| 21:46.18 | babilen | Bublik2002: Or (if you want to keep squeeze-updates (which is fine)) use something like: http://paste.debian.net/149784/ |
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| 21:46.55 | Bublik2002 | ok got it.. thank you ... bbl |
| 21:46.57 | nsadmin | alabd, there are a lot of people here who believe in debian... do you expect an honest, balanced answer? even so, other oses are considered offtopic |
| 21:47.04 | boudiccas | jelly-home; well it aint working here |
| 21:47.16 | clerkent | debhelper: |
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| 21:47.51 | mehrdadii | what is repo download link????????????????????????????????/ |
| 21:47.54 | jelly-home | boudiccas: and yet you're installing it back? |
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| 21:48.10 | glisignoli | I've got an etch issue with networking inside ESXi. I know #vmware would be a better place to ask but I think it's more of a debian question. I have 2 etch virtual machines. One's a clean Etch r9, the other is one of our server builds. On EtchR9 network speeds are 1Gbps. But on our build we are only getting a max of 10Mbps, both network connections show they are connected at the same speed, same driver, same kernel. |
| 21:48.28 | glisignoli | sorry for the wall-o-txt |
| 21:48.47 | clerkent | isnt that pink floyd ? |
| 21:48.56 | babilen | mehrdadii: I already told you. Use something like: http://paste.debian.net/149786/ in your /etc/apt/sources.list, run "apt-get update" and then "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" |
| 21:49.14 | nsadmin | all in all it's a ball bouncing unless it falls on the wall |
| 21:49.30 | clerkent | touche |
| 21:49.35 | babilen | mehrdadii: It is also not necessary to use multiple question marks at the end of your questions. (Or rather: Not welcome at all) |
| 21:50.21 | boudiccas | jelly-home; yes, i need sound for my sons christmas pressie. a video of national lampoon at christmas time. so its important that i get it working again. i dont care what program/codec uses it, just as long as i get good sound again |
| 21:50.52 | mehrdadii | babilen: ok,sure. thanx for helping |
| 21:51.03 | alabd | nsadmin: ? |
| 21:51.12 | Vasistha | glisignoli: well of course the first thing we need to ask is why haven't you upgraded? |
| 21:51.42 | jelly-home | boudiccas: with squeeze, I'd go alsa-only. |
| 21:52.32 | nsadmin | alabd, about debian, the devs try hard to make everything as stable as possible |
| 21:52.35 | boudiccas | jelly-home; k, i'm desperate for sound, its /got/ to work |
| 21:53.05 | nsadmin | alabd, I cannot speak to a comparison to bsd; I have no experience with it |
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| 21:56.42 | jelly-home | boudiccas: I'd make it work with alsa. After that, when it needs to work in a specific app, use the fuser command from "/msg dpkg list alsa users" to find and kill any other apps holding a /dev/snd/pcm* device. Avoid Adobe Flash in particular, it's known to exclusively open the pcm* device. |
| 21:58.21 | boudiccas | jelly-home; dont use flash at all, if a website has it then they lose my custom! just checking out various things with alsa |
| 21:58.32 | boudiccas | jelly-home; thanks anyway |
| 21:58.46 | nsadmin | does gnash or other flash player allow more sound choices? |
| 21:59.22 | jelly-home | what other flash player. gnash is a joke CPU-usage wise |
| 21:59.38 | jelly-home | it wastes _more_ cpu than the orig. implementation |
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| 22:01.56 | glisignoli | Vasistha: I wish I had an answer to that |
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| 22:02.13 | glisignoli | Vasistha: Unfortuntaly it's not my call in this company to do the upgrade |
| 22:02.37 | Vasistha | glisignoli: haha. gotcha. etch is pretty old. it doesn't get security updates anymore. |
| 22:03.18 | glisignoli | Vasistha: Oh yeah, I know. Don't even get me started with that. But really, I don't think etch is the problem in this case. Rather some setting or configuration between these servers is |
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| 22:05.40 | GyroTarzan^ | I have installed debian, but why cant i find ttyusb1? |
| 22:05.54 | nsadmin | driver? |
| 22:06.07 | GyroTarzan^ | Use to have ubuntu before and it was no problem |
| 22:06.12 | glisignoli | nsadmin: E1000 |
| 22:06.27 | nsadmin | also "ttyusb1" is just a name |
| 22:06.44 | GyroTarzan^ | I have ttyusb0 |
| 22:07.11 | nsadmin | ok, what do you expect ttyusb1 to be? what is ttyusb0? |
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| 22:07.37 | abrotman | GyroTarzan^: for what device? |
| 22:07.42 | GyroTarzan^ | a card reader |
| 22:08.11 | abrotman | GyroTarzan^: generally teh card readers present as drives, like /dev/sdd .. check dmesg |
| 22:08.25 | GyroTarzan^ | ok, thanks |
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| 22:09.08 | darsie | Can I use syslinux to make a debian install USB stick without erasing it's contents? |
| 22:09.22 | boudiccas | right, in vlc, using gnome on squeeze, i've got sound in the left ear very faint - how do i increase the volume please? i have the master set to 100% already |
| 22:09.26 | jhutchins_wk | darsie: Unlikely. |
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| 22:09.38 | alabd | how often is security updates released ? |
| 22:09.40 | darsie | ok |
| 22:09.58 | jhutchins_wk | alabd: As needed. |
| 22:10.00 | abrotman | alabd: there's no schedule |
| 22:10.00 | nsadmin | darsie, can you back up the card? |
| 22:10.15 | darsie | nsadmin: sure |
| 22:10.34 | jelly-home | alabd: take a look http://www.debian.org/security/ |
| 22:10.48 | nsadmin | darsie: so, that's one choice you have |
| 22:10.50 | darsie | it just appeared syslinux could install a bootloader and boot the install files I put on the filesystem. |
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| 22:11.13 | alabd | Does secuirty updates fix whole public buges ? |
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| 22:11.24 | Vasistha | glisignoli: wish I had something to suggest, but I simply have no idea. |
| 22:11.27 | abrotman | alabd: the DSA will tell you what it fixes |
| 22:11.33 | abrotman | alabd: see security.debian.org for more info |
| 22:11.37 | nsadmin | alabd, each one probably fixes something |
| 22:11.56 | glisignoli | Vasistha: Yeah it's ok. I'm out of ideas too lol |
| 22:12.29 | Vasistha | glisignoli: if you don't find help in here, there's always the mailing lists |
| 22:12.43 | glisignoli | Yep, and serverfault |
| 22:14.07 | mns | I'm running wheezy and have my laptop monitor and when it is docked have an external monitor to the left of it. How can I use both monitors, without them being a mirror of each other ? Either with xfce4 or lxde ? |
| 22:14.12 | alabd | abrotman: DSA ? |
| 22:14.28 | valdyn | mns: man xrandr |
| 22:14.29 | abrotman | alabd: see security.debian.org for more info |
| 22:14.29 | GyroTarzan^ | abrotman: after dmesg i see [ 8.398149] ftdi_sio ttyUSB1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now disconnect, can i create a link to ftdi_sio ttyUSB1 in dev folder? |
| 22:14.32 | nsadmin | alabd, google can probably be of service here |
| 22:14.49 | babilen | mns: Not sure what XFCE or LXDE offer for display configuration, but you can use the *randr tools such as xrandr (cli) or arandr (gui) for that. |
| 22:14.52 | abrotman | GyroTarzan^: you need to figure out why it's disconnecting |
| 22:15.01 | alabd | nsadmin: each one ? |
| 22:15.20 | abrotman | GyroTarzan^: i'm about to walk home .. but you'd do well to paste the last 200 lines of dmesg in paste.debian.net and ask someone to look at it |
| 22:15.59 | GyroTarzan^ | ok, thanks abrotman. |
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| 22:19.04 | philluminati | I'm looking for a virtual package named gir1.2-gtop-2.0 which gnome-shell-extensions depends on. Does anyone who which respository it is in please? |
| 22:19.24 | cafuego | !find gir1.2-gtop-2.0 |
| 22:19.47 | themill | ,rprovides gir1.2-gtop-2.0 --release sid |
| 22:19.50 | judd | In sid/i386, gir1.2-gtop-2.0 is a real package. |
| 22:19.55 | themill | philluminati: it's not a virtual package... |
| 22:20.12 | cafuego | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gir1.2-gtop-2.0&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 22:20.15 | philluminati | but aptitude claims it is... |
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| 22:20.36 | cafuego | philluminati: aptitude is software, software is buggy, qed. |
| 22:20.44 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'gir1.2-gtop-2.0' returned no results. |
| 22:20.54 | cafuego | thanks dpkg ;-) |
| 22:20.54 | babilen | philluminati: Paste your sources.list + output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy gir1.2-gtop-2.0" to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 22:21.03 | themill | philluminati: or does aptitude say that it can't find it and suggest that maybe it is a virtual package? |
| 22:21.13 | babilen | philluminati: We also have a specific channel (#debian-next) on irc.oftc.net for wheezy/sid support. |
| 22:21.18 | philluminati | interesting... |
| 22:21.33 | Vasistha | ah, what a nice idea, #debian-next |
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| 22:25.05 | philluminati | http://paste.debian.net/149789/ |
| 22:25.36 | philluminati | (cannot join debian-next, you must be invited) |
| 22:26.08 | themill | philluminati: "experimental" isn't a release, and if you didn't already know that, you definitely shouldn't be trying to use experimental packages (or ones from unstable) |
| 22:26.52 | philluminati | I'm was aiming for debian sid / unstable. (I'm not sure what is, or isn't a debian release) |
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| 22:27.16 | philluminati | but I wanted gnome-shell-extensions package. Is my sources list broken? |
| 22:27.48 | Vasistha | philluminati: that is a seriously messed-up looking sources.list ... several problems with consistency, etc. |
| 22:28.24 | philluminati | Yeah I don't really understand the format |
| 22:28.43 | philluminati | I should do s/experimental/sid/g |
| 22:29.05 | philluminati | ? |
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| 22:29.14 | Vasistha | philluminati: if you don't understand the format of sources.list then it is unwise to be trying to run a testing/unstable system. If things break -- and they will -- then you're not going to have any idea how to fix your system |
| 22:29.20 | alabd | abrotman: DSA are in a channel ? |
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| 22:31.02 | daemonkeeper | alabd: Which DSA? That term is much overloaded in Debian. |
| 22:31.33 | alabd | daemonkeeper: abrotman: alabd: the DSA will tell you what it fixes |
| 22:32.12 | daemonkeeper | Ah, he meant Debian Security Advisories. |
| 22:32.13 | somiaj | alabd: check debian.org they are easy to find from there |
| 22:32.23 | themill | alabd: a DSA is an email, it tends not to live in a channel on irc |
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| 22:32.55 | Vasistha | !tell philluminati about unstable |
| 22:33.01 | Vasistha | !tell philluminati about experimental |
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| 22:33.55 | alabd | wana to know for example if we install debian 6 , How often will PHP be updated in repositories? |
| 22:34.25 | Vasistha | philluminati: debian is a distro that is built upon stability. If you are an amateur debian user then we generally will not help you destabalize your system by installing unstable/experimental packages. Even "testing" is considered time-intensive for debian maintenance for newbies |
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| 22:34.49 | philluminati | I've been using debian squeeze stable for the last two years |
| 22:35.08 | Vasistha | philluminati: well, squeeze has not been stable for two years... |
| 22:35.21 | themill | alabd: when security related bugs are found. this cannot be predicted in advance |
| 22:35.24 | philluminati | I installed debian 6 when it came out |
| 22:35.33 | somiaj | alabd: stable is frozen, so there are no regular updates. If a security hole/bug is found they are fixed in a timly fashion and put on security.debian.org |
| 22:35.51 | crosswalk | sephii: Just now read your messages. What I ended up doing was making the /Lowercase and /Uppercase dirs one level up from where they should have been, and then moved them back once the mv operations were done. Not what the book asked, but it got the results it asked for. |
| 22:36.02 | themill | philluminati: that's only 10 months... not quite 2 years. Time flies when you're having fun. |
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| 22:36.19 | philluminati | point is, I've switched to unstable to get g++ 4.6 (C++11 support) then everything broke. So I fixed everything, but now I run gnome3 (3.2.1) and I want to install an experimental package. |
| 22:36.21 | somiaj | alabd: fixes are backpored to the version inside of debian, so just because debian is using a paticualr version of php doesn't mean that it is vulnable to the security holes in the upstream version. |
| 22:36.43 | philluminati | sorry yeah I may have been running edge before that |
| 22:36.58 | Vasistha | philluminati: good job fixing everything, gotta give you credit for that |
| 22:37.02 | alabd | Alireza: stable is frozen, so there are no regular updates. If a security hole/bug is found they are fixed in a timly fashion and put on security.debian.org |
| 22:37.31 | philluminati | yeah to be honest, I don't think I need your help |
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| 22:38.25 | themill | philluminati: experimental is not a suite that you can try to run |
| 22:38.54 | philluminati | ok. It should say sid right? |
| 22:38.59 | somiaj | philluminati: experimental packages are compiled against sid base libs, so just add the repo and make sure you have it pinned correctly. It contains collections of packages that are deemed to experimental for sid. |
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| 22:39.16 | philluminati | That's effectively unstable, then I would use "-t experimental" switches. Is that right somaij? |
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| 22:39.31 | somiaj | philluminati: correct, the debian wiki explains this |
| 22:39.42 | somiaj | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental |
| 22:39.54 | alabd | somiaj: you mean debian team will for example check php before putting it inside repo ? and then they will find some buges more sooner ? |
| 22:39.57 | johndo | philluminati: if you want to mix repositories you may want to have a look at apt preferences |
| 22:40.11 | karsten | Is there a standard utility / procedure for daemonizing a process? Speciically a Java server (jetty) we're running. |
| 22:40.52 | yagoo | karsten, yah.. there should be a template somewhere for that.. notable for jboss and tomcat |
| 22:40.58 | somiaj | alabd: lets say php is found to have a bug (either within debian or a security hole within php itself) the debian security team fixes the hole on the version in debian stable. |
| 22:41.30 | philluminati | It's just this 1 gnome 3 package I am after. Then I can reset my sources.list to my backup |
| 22:41.31 | Vasistha | philluminati: anyway, you'll need to have a line for sid, and also a similar line for experimental |
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| 22:41.36 | philluminati | That was the plan |
| 22:41.39 | yagoo | just made a report to license-violation@gpl-violations.org |
| 22:42.04 | Vasistha | philluminati: ... and you might want to bring some of your other repos (e.g. debian-multimedia) in line with what you're currently running |
| 22:42.08 | somiaj | alabd: some secuityholes bugs hide for a while, but when they are found they are fixed in a timly fashion. The advantage of being frozen and fixing the version inside of debian stable is then you don't have to worry about unexpected bugs by changing versions and other things (as if you were to update the package to the newest upstream version) |
| 22:42.25 | philluminati | Thank you Vasistha |
| 22:42.31 | mastermaker | slaves |
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| 22:43.27 | philluminati | Basically I didn't realise that I should have my "distro" entry and then experimental as a second entry. |
| 22:43.34 | philluminati | Think it's gonna work this time. |
| 22:43.43 | philluminati | Thank you |
| 22:43.55 | langkid1 | I accidently skipped the part of the install where it asks you what you want to install (graphical user interface, web server, mail server, etc.), how do I re-run the install so it will install those again? I already completed the install |
| 22:44.11 | somiaj | langkid1: the program that does that is called 'tasksel' |
| 22:44.31 | mastermaker | slaves |
| 22:44.43 | somiaj | langkid1: it will install a list of packages associated with a paticular task. |
| 22:44.48 | langkid1 | ok |
| 22:45.26 | langkid1 | what file server is by default installed? |
| 22:45.47 | mastermaker | slaves |
| 22:45.48 | themill | mastermaker: do you have a debian user support question? |
| 22:45.52 | langkid1 | with tasksel |
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| 22:46.11 | randylw | quick question, can stock debian read NTFS drives without any problems? |
| 22:46.16 | somiaj | langkid1: http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel -- tells you some of the packages with the tasks |
| 22:46.21 | mastermaker | slaves |
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| 22:46.22 | langkid1 | ok thanks |
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| 22:46.35 | somiaj | randylw: read yes, you need to isntall ntfs-3g to get write though. |
| 22:46.37 | karsten | yagoo: I've founda few pointers but nothing that looks wholly definitive. Thanks. |
| 22:46.46 | randylw | somiaj: thanks |
| 22:46.50 | alabd | somiaj: thanks |
| 22:47.30 | yagoo | karsten, did you check dpkg -L <package name> ? (look for */bin paths and */doc and manpages).. |
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| 22:49.11 | yagoo | karsten, i spotted this, dunno if this is the same one you're using http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Debian+Packages |
| 22:49.43 | yagoo | karsten, it says "jetty6-examples_<version>_all.deb" .. perhaps dpkg -L jetty6-examples may show something |
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| 23:02.32 | LinuxGuy2009 | What is the main idea or purpose of signing a debian repository? To prevent unauthorized use or what exactly? |
| 23:03.39 | darsie | To detect tampering, IMHO. |
| 23:03.40 | esprimo | Stop a MITM to send shit to you I guess |
| 23:04.06 | themill | !secure apt |
| 23:04.06 | dpkg | [apt-secure] Starting with version 0.6, <APT> performs signature checking of the Release file for all archives. See http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt , "man apt-secure" and chapter 7 of the Securing Debian Manual (ask me about <securing debian>) for more information. See also <key>, <no public key>. |
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| 23:05.41 | daemonkeeper | There are 4 types of threats a signed repository prevents you from: freeze attacks, replay attacks, denial of service, arbitrary/forged packages. |
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| 23:09.41 | Vasistha | LinuxGuy2009: it makes it extremely difficult for someone who has taken control of an apt repository to be able to distribute corrupt packages |
| 23:09.59 | daemonkeeper | That's threat 4 in my list. |
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| 23:11.50 | LinuxGuy2009 | cool thanks guys |
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| 23:12.06 | thewanderer1 | exam? O.o |
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| 23:18.31 | trist4n | i am trying to resync a file thats about 180gb |
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| 23:18.49 | trist4n | and it seems to take hours to perform the differential and see what part of it needs to actually be sent. is this normal? |
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| 23:29.11 | jelly-home | trist4n: if you're doing a rsync over the network, it reads the whole file at both ends. If your storage device at the source or at the destination is really quite slow, like 15MB/s, it might take 3 hours for that step |
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| 23:30.01 | jelly-home | trist4n: in addition, if you don't use --inplace, a new copy of the file will temporarily be generated on the destination |
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| 23:36.44 | trist4n | i am using inplace, jelly-home, but both ends are at least that slow, being overloaded. |
| 23:36.59 | trist4n | i am thinking the way around this until i can split the file into smaller parts is to simply transfer the full thing each night. |
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| 23:45.45 | Vasistha | trist4n: another thing you can do is do an md5 on each one to see if it has actually changed, before transferring |
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| 23:47.27 | trist4n | Vasistha: it will definitely have changed, its a .vmdk for a vm that is currently running |
| 23:47.38 | trist4n | and i know that this setup sucks. i didnt ask for this |
| 23:47.48 | Vasistha | indeed, yeah, it will always be changing |
| 23:48.10 | trist4n | i am adding -W to rsync on the large vms. |
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| 23:50.04 | darsie | making an installer with syslinux worked like a charm without deleting the data on the USB stick. |
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| 23:50.53 | darsie | Just ... where do I put the non-free network firmware files (/lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw)? |
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| 23:51.31 | somiaj | darsie: why not install the debian package with the non-free firmware to put it in the right spot? |
| 23:51.41 | somiaj | darsie: though you could go look at the list of files for the package to see where to put it. |
| 23:51.46 | darsie | the other files are in the root of the filesystem together with old files and directories. |
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| 23:55.27 | darsie | somiaj: That's a USB installer. There's only linux, initrd.gz, ldlinux.sys and syslinux.cfg. The installer boots, but without network firmware I can't install anything. Or should I put firmware-realtek_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb on the USB stick and install it with dpkg? |
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| 23:56.48 | nsadmin | darsie, did you copy the image file into the existing usb stick filesystem? |
| 23:56.55 | darsie | yes |
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| 23:57.14 | babilen | darsie: If you created the USB installer from the Debian images you should have a second partition on it on which you can place the firmware .debs |
| 23:57.19 | darsie | linux, initrd.gz, ldlinux.sys and syslinux.cfg |
| 23:57.44 | darsie | ohh no, not from an iso image. |
| 23:58.26 | darsie | no, there's no iso on the stick. |
| 23:59.01 | darsie | I downloaded the files from http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ |
| 23:59.03 | babilen | darsie: There shouldn't be an iso on the stick -- How did you create it? (the USB installer that is) |
| 23:59.18 | darsie | syslinux /dev/sdb1 |
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| 23:59.36 | darsie | and manually created syslinux.cfg |
| 23:59.44 | babilen | darsie: The easiest way is to cat the debian images to the usb stick |
| 23:59.50 | babilen | !tell darsie about usb install |
