| 00:00.09 | babilen | bambanx: Did it mention your Windows 7 installation? |
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| 00:00.33 | bambanx | nope only debian babilen Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem |
| 00:00.34 | bambanx | Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem |
| 00:00.44 | tp43 | When I use gtalk, it doesn't seem to select the correct mic to use. I have a laptop mic that is muted and a usb mic, I made an .asoundrc file to select the usb mic as default and it works for arecord, but when I try to use gtalk, its not getting any sound input from the mic |
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| 00:01.11 | babilen | bambanx: Ok, you should now be able to boot Debian -- Lets see if os-prober is installed. What does "apt-cache policy os-prober" give you? |
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| 00:01.27 | babilen | bambanx: Paste it to http://paste.debian.net |
| 00:03.07 | bambanx | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/150069/ |
| 00:03.44 | tp43 | man, some of these debian team ppl are real assholes, I was mentioning that i have observed 0% usage of swap partition, and they lost their minds, they started swarming and telling me to shutup, so I was like you shutup, and fuk you, and then banned me |
| 00:04.23 | tp43 | Check you system monitor, I guarantee it will read 0% swap usage! |
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| 00:05.53 | babilen | bambanx: Hmm, I am not sure why your windows 7 installation is not detected :-( |
| 00:05.56 | bambanx | they hurt u tp43? |
| 00:06.12 | tp43 | bambanx, haha, ya, I am banned |
| 00:06.13 | babilen | bambanx: Be that as it may, you should now be able to boot into Debian. |
| 00:06.14 | bambanx | but i can boot on debian ? babilen |
| 00:06.43 | bambanx | cool babilen u make me the happy cristmass i restart now |
| 00:06.50 | babilen | tp43: Please refrain from calling people who are helping you in their free time assholes. |
| 00:07.43 | tp43 | babilen, no, they were swarming me, and then one guy told me to shutup, so i told him to shutup too |
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| 00:08.39 | nsadmin | on what channel? |
| 00:08.40 | babilen | tp43: I have no inclination to discuss this, but please be nice. Even if other people are not behaving in a civilised and professional manner there is no need to do the same. |
| 00:09.11 | tp43 | They were advising me to make swap 3gigs, and I was saying, I am gonna make it 400mb, and they went nuts |
| 00:09.17 | tharkun | kisses babilen |
| 00:09.21 | tp43 | Bad attitude |
| 00:09.39 | tp43 | nsadmin, the main debian channel |
| 00:09.53 | nsadmin | oh, you mean #debian on oftc |
| 00:10.45 | tp43 | nsadmin, check you sys monitor and read your swap usage, its 0% I guarantee |
| 00:10.51 | babilen | tp43: Please ignore such things in the future -- I just wanted to remind you to keep it friendly and professional in here. If we all do our bit it'll be a nicer athmosphere. |
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| 00:11.05 | tp43 | babilen, take it easy dude |
| 00:11.16 | babilen | tp43: I do, always :) |
| 00:11.57 | babilen | Lets move on |
| 00:12.12 | tp43 | babilen, at least check your swap usage |
| 00:12.21 | babilen | Whatfor? |
| 00:12.42 | tp43 | babilen, read the usage |
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| 00:13.23 | babilen | tp43: Swap: 9535 31 9504 -- What do we conclude now? |
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| 00:13.51 | tp43 | babilen, you got 9gig alocate for swap? |
| 00:14.03 | tp43 | Is that mb? |
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| 00:14.24 | babilen | Yes, I have 9gb of swap |
| 00:14.24 | bambanx | yeah i am back babilen |
| 00:14.38 | babilen | bambanx: \o/ -- booted into Debian? |
| 00:14.41 | bambanx | yes |
| 00:14.55 | tp43 | babilen, ok, now open system monitor and read your swap usage |
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| 00:14.58 | babilen | bambanx: Please run "os-prober" now and show me the output on http://paste.debian.net |
| 00:15.02 | bambanx | ok |
| 00:15.08 | babilen | tp43: 31MB is used |
| 00:15.28 | tp43 | babilen, what is the command to get that out put? |
| 00:15.31 | bambanx | root@crazycat:/home/crazycat# os-prober |
| 00:15.31 | bambanx | /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain |
| 00:15.31 | bambanx | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.33 | babilen | tp43: What is this about? What are you trying to show here? |
| 00:15.55 | tp43 | babilen, that you don't need 9gigs swap |
| 00:16.15 | babilen | bambanx: Ok, /sys was missing in the chroot which is why it couldn't find your Windows. Please run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda" again and you should be able to boot both Debian and Windows |
| 00:16.35 | tp43 | babilen, how did you get the Swap: output, what is the command? |
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| 00:16.46 | babilen | tp43: I do when I suspend to disk and when I am running some horrible code I've written over night |
| 00:16.52 | babilen | tp43: free -m |
| 00:17.20 | tp43 | babilen, do you know how to read swap usage when you suspend to disk? |
| 00:17.22 | bambanx | yeah babilen now works thanks thanks thanks u are awesome |
| 00:18.12 | tp43 | I guess if you have 1tb drive, then who cares about ten gigs for swap, but mine is only 80gigs |
| 00:18.15 | babilen | bambanx: Glad to hear that -- Have a nice day/night and enjoy your new Debian installation. Do not hesitate to ask if you have problems. Would you mind if I spam you with some links to introductory readings? |
| 00:19.07 | babilen | tp43: I am fine with my decisions -- This doesn't mean that you have to. If you want my advice for a suitable partitioning scheme you have to ask me about this. This discussion is pointless. |
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| 00:19.44 | tp43 | babilen, take it easy |
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| 00:20.30 | tp43 | Is it possible easily to read the swap usage when you suspend to disk, or is there a log file for swap usage history? |
| 00:20.40 | babilen | tp43: I just don't understand what you are trying to achieve. If you are happy with your swap related decisions I am as well. |
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| 00:21.38 | tp43 | babilen, relax, if you have no interest, then feel free not to comment, but let me do what I want |
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| 00:21.56 | simonlnu | i think that's what he's saying tp43 |
| 00:22.33 | tp43 | simonlnu, no, I think it is what I just said |
| 00:22.50 | babilen | Lets move on .. |
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| 00:23.01 | babilen | tp43: Is there actually anything I can help you with? |
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| 00:23.18 | tp43 | babilen, dude, go help others |
| 00:23.35 | jetscreamer | lies... all lies |
| 00:23.50 | jetscreamer | waves@simonlnu |
| 00:24.06 | simonlnu | hi jetscreamer |
| 00:24.06 | nsadmin | tp43, it's all good... do what you want... just recognize there can be consequences, and since you want to be indeoendent, you know that in order to do that, you need to take responsibility for everything you do |
| 00:24.42 | tp43 | why you people swarming? swap is holy to you dudes or something |
| 00:25.01 | nsadmin | swap? what swap? |
| 00:25.02 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 00:25.09 | jetscreamer | !worship swap |
| 00:25.09 | dpkg | kneels before swap. "I'm not worthy!" |
| 00:25.12 | simonlnu | tp43: not swarming. it's ok. |
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| 00:25.34 | jetscreamer | i don't really notice a difference with or w/o |
| 00:25.42 | tp43 | How do you read swap history, is there a log or anything |
| 00:25.49 | simonlnu | mattered more in the 2.4 days |
| 00:25.57 | nsadmin | swap... history? |
| 00:25.58 | jetscreamer | light load though |
| 00:25.58 | simonlnu | tp43: swap history? |
| 00:26.35 | tp43 | what are talking in a bar, that you are hard of hearing, this shit is getting typed out, lol |
| 00:26.41 | nsadmin | swap has to be as fast as possible... to log every action would make a simple grep take several years |
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| 00:27.10 | simonlnu | tp43: you can see current contents, but there's no history |
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| 00:27.39 | simonlnu | it's disk-based memory, it has to be fast. |
| 00:27.50 | tp43 | simonlnu, I am gonna try sysstat |
| 00:27.55 | simonlnu | and it's always going to be slower than electronic memory |
| 00:28.02 | dondelelcaro | tp43: or do you mean how much the swap is being used? |
| 00:28.05 | simonlnu | aka ram |
| 00:28.09 | dondelelcaro | tp43: if that's what you want, use munin or similar to track it |
| 00:28.26 | simonlnu | ah yeh, that makes sense |
| 00:28.38 | jetscreamer | just put swapfile on ramdisk... :) |
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| 00:29.06 | babilen | jetscreamer: haha, good one :) |
| 00:29.14 | simonlnu | hehe |
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| 00:29.45 | tp43 | whats this tempfs, and udev |
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| 00:29.54 | simonlnu | !tmpfs |
| 00:29.56 | dpkg | http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt . You can change the default size of it by editing /etc/default/tmpfs. For performance reasons you can also mount temporary filesystems there such as /tmp with a line like "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0" in fstab |
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| 00:30.06 | babilen | !tell tp43 -about udev |
| 00:30.10 | jetscreamer | doesn't say udev is/was a curse |
| 00:30.27 | nsadmin | tp43, people are asking you questions which you're not answering... they're asking because they want to help, and you're not helping them do that |
| 00:30.37 | simonlnu | it used to be horrible. i'm happy it didn't turn out to be like devfs |
| 00:30.38 | tp43 | who uses gtalk, my mic is working |
| 00:30.48 | nsadmin | !anyone use |
| 00:30.49 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 00:30.56 | Valtam | lol |
| 00:30.59 | jetscreamer | yeh i wouldn't know about is, just was |
| 00:31.53 | nsadmin | I bring it up because that plus your attitude is starting to make me feel annoyed |
| 00:32.21 | tp43 | nsadmin, really, or is thy sacred swap |
| 00:32.44 | jetscreamer | swap is very annoying you say |
| 00:32.53 | nsadmin | I think we both know that swap has nothing to do with it, not here, and not on oftc |
| 00:33.05 | nsadmin | anyway, I'm off to get something |
| 00:33.14 | tp43 | yeah, take a hike |
| 00:33.19 | simonlnu | tp43: seriously dude. has to do with your attitude, not swap, not memory, not anything else but the attitude. |
| 00:33.38 | simonlnu | it's your problem if you choose not to see that. |
| 00:33.52 | tp43 | simonlnu, thats what I am saying |
| 00:33.53 | simonlnu | *plonk* |
| 00:35.06 | ompaul | tp43: clue, if you want people to help you, you need to address your attitude which is pretty much an abuse of people who might help you, that behaviour is classic troll behaviour so keep it up if you want to be called one. Check it out on wikipedia if you don't know what it is. Oh I've just put you on ignore. |
| 00:35.43 | Dev0n | is there much overhead of having tail -F running all the time ? |
| 00:36.02 | tp43 | who know how to setup sysstat / isag , its asking for a file |
| 00:36.03 | dondelelcaro | Dev0n: there is some |
| 00:36.16 | ompaul | Dev0n: there should not be much if the -F is doing the 10 line thing |
| 00:36.26 | Dev0n | 10 line thing ? |
| 00:36.29 | simonlnu | yeh, it's not a lot |
| 00:36.30 | dondelelcaro | Dev0n: but see tailf |
| 00:36.34 | ompaul | Dev0n: normal use |
| 00:36.37 | simonlnu | Dev0n: default is 10 lines |
| 00:36.41 | Dev0n | so just tail -F filename |
| 00:36.46 | tp43 | ompaul, I think you dudes swarming is trolling, if you are not interested in what I am discussing then ignore it, I behave vey civil, but this swarming is gross behaviour |
| 00:37.14 | Dev0n | cool, because I wasn't sure if it was better to have something like python on loop |
| 00:37.20 | Dev0n | instead of tail -F |
| 00:37.42 | dondelelcaro | Dev0n: nah, unless you're using inotify (which is what tailf does), nothing is going to be much better than tail |
| 00:37.55 | Dev0n | not heard of tailf |
| 00:37.56 | Dev0n | 3rd party? |
| 00:37.58 | ompaul | Dev0n: tail is built for purpose. |
| 00:38.03 | babilen | Dev0n: It surely does result in some overhead, but I wouldn't worry about it. Can you tell us why you are worried about it? Do you experience actual problems when you tail a file? |
| 00:38.29 | dondelelcaro | actually, now tail -F uses inotify too, so... |
| 00:38.45 | Dev0n | ohy no babilen, I'm just trying to figure out the best way to do this. Have it read a .log file do do specific task depending on what the log is |
| 00:38.59 | Dev0n | prob going to use python twisted processprotocl to keep track of the tail -f output |
| 00:40.13 | simonlnu | i use less +F. which is probably more overhead, but i can search in place |
| 00:40.46 | Dev0n | well, is it better to use tail -F file or tailf file ? |
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| 00:41.03 | ompaul | Dev0n: are you just searching for one event? |
| 00:41.12 | Dev0n | every latest event |
| 00:41.15 | dondelelcaro | Dev0n: they're both the same now |
| 00:41.22 | dondelelcaro | Dev0n: so I'd just use tail -F |
| 00:41.36 | ompaul | Dev0n: that's a little nuts, are you reacting to every event? |
| 00:41.36 | dondelelcaro | had forgotten that modern versions of tail use INOTIFY |
| 00:41.36 | Dev0n | so anything new that happens, I want to process it to see if it matches if not wait for next |
| 00:42.08 | Dev0n | well that depends if every event matches a task ompaul |
| 00:42.27 | ompaul | Dev0n: what is the event? |
| 00:42.47 | ompaul | or task |
| 00:43.05 | ompaul | you do realise you could just wait for that to appear and just process it directly |
| 00:43.22 | Dev0n | instead of having that event log to file ? |
| 00:43.26 | babilen | Dev0n: I would actually implement this directly in python -- readline + python-inotifyx or python-pyinotify should do the trick. More in #python :) |
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| 00:43.49 | babilen | Dev0n: f.readline + f.seek that is .. |
| 00:44.11 | Justin | it's seek and then readline in a loop |
| 00:44.46 | Dev0n | humm |
| 00:45.16 | ompaul | Dev0n: yes, and you could also file this under another log file which removes all the matching event |
| 00:45.20 | ompaul | s |
| 00:45.35 | dontbe | and that is python 2.4, 2.6, 2.7 or 3.0 compatible? ask google? |
| 00:45.56 | dontbe | and interpreter, seven mailing lists |
| 00:46.11 | dontbe | poWerfully |
| 00:46.32 | dontbe | make a class to make an object, like in unix, o wait |
| 00:46.58 | dontbe | c is so perl like... |
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| 00:47.44 | Justin | dontbe: take your medication |
| 00:48.02 | dontbe | make some api change and I will be happy |
| 00:48.11 | dontbe | lets go java |
| 00:48.25 | dontbe | I like classes |
| 00:48.45 | Dev0n | <ompaul> Dev0n: are you just searching for one event? |
| 00:48.47 | dontbe | downstream is owning debian |
| 00:48.53 | Dev0n | by that did you mean, one event in the log file ? |
| 00:49.07 | Dev0n | because when I said every event, I mean every new line that will appear in the log file |
| 00:49.09 | tp43 | I have two microphones, I've set the default one by making an .asoundrc file and selecting which on is default, but gtalk is picking it up, is there another way to set the default mic, actually gtalk isn't seeing my second mic at all. Usually, when I install kde/gnome it works out of the box, with xfce, I can't get it working |
| 00:49.47 | mhall119 | thought that was the intro to a Beck song.... |
| 00:50.15 | ompaul | Dev0n: yes, for example, you run a program which has one output when that output hits the log file, the program using inotify or some other does it's action |
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| 00:51.26 | Justin | tp43: pulseaudio is pretty good at making that sort of thing work, but people hate pulseaudio for some reason.. :) |
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| 00:52.36 | tp43 | Justin, I have no problem with it, I actually installed I'm pretty sure, and when I look in my mixer, I see duplicates now, alsa & pulseaudio of each of my devices, its kinda confusing |
| 00:52.58 | Justin | tp43: do you have pavucontrol? |
| 00:53.25 | Justin | (it's in the menus as something too, I just know the command name) |
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| 00:53.38 | tp43 | Justin never heard of it. let me see |
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| 00:59.37 | tp43 | How do you turn off system bells? I have it turned off in my shell, but I can't figure out how to turn it off in xchat |
| 00:59.42 | tp43 | so load |
| 01:00.25 | tp43 | Would you say Debian community members are also by in large, Communist? |
| 01:00.46 | nkuttler | tp43: please go troll somewhere else |
| 01:00.58 | tp43 | Or Debian philosophy has nothing to do with communism? |
| 01:02.35 | tp43 | seems like questio relevant to channel |
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| 01:02.59 | nkuttler | you're sooo 90s. work on your trolling skills |
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| 01:03.52 | Zharf | I thought that was 80s |
| 01:04.15 | nkuttler | yeah, wasn |
| 01:04.20 | nkuttler | wasn't sure about that |
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| 01:05.34 | tp43 | gpl sounds fair to me, but I'd be interested to know |
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| 01:08.54 | webad_13 | I'm on debian sid, openbox - network set up through /etc/network/interfaces... I'd like to share wifi connection to my eht0, could anyone help? |
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| 01:10.00 | nkuttler | dondelelcaro: hm, well, he wasn't *that* bad |
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| 01:11.19 | nkuttler | webad_13: sounds like you want nat/masquerading. maybe network-manager can do that for you |
| 01:12.09 | webad_13 | nkuttler: and without network-manager, that is throught /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 01:12.15 | webad_13 | a brigde? |
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| 01:21.38 | DemonWitch | does the con-kolivas patched-kernel offer better responsiveness/performance for desktop systems? |
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| 01:40.38 | Vasistha | I have a file containing a squashfs filesystem here. I installed the squashfs kernel module. How do I go about mounting this file? |
| 01:43.33 | Vasistha | I did 'modprobe squashfs' and it now shows up in lsmod. However when I tried this: mount -t squashfs -o loop filesystem.squashfs /mnt/squash |
| 01:43.48 | Vasistha | I got an error, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock [etc] |
| 01:44.26 | Vasistha | oh wait, n/m ... dmesg shows the error. Again I need a newer kernel... doh. |
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| 02:01.36 | hikenboot1 | hello can anyone put this into a git command to get it to point the git to this point 2cf7f52 Linux compat 2.6.39: mount_nodev() I am not sure how I would put this into a git checkout command thanks |
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| 02:11.04 | jaalto | If there any possibility to break NFS mount when server is down? I've tried "mount -fl MOUNT" but the command hangs |
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| 02:15.21 | aidan | sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales .. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is not installed |
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| 02:16.14 | aidan | Why does aptitude /perl complain about locales when the package is not even installed? http://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wiki/Perl_warning_Setting_locale_failed_unter_Debian |
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| 02:18.17 | kallisti | Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows the encoding used by /usr/share/dict/bulgarian from the wbulgarian package. |
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| 02:21.52 | kallisti | My guess is either KOI8-R or latin-5 but there's no way to know for sure. |
| 02:23.31 | Cambyses | Here is some help (in Bulgarian) about how to get spell checking working: http://bgoffice.sourceforge.net/aspell/index.html |
| 02:23.35 | Cambyses | May be of some help. |
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| 02:24.48 | kallisti | maybe. I'm actually not having any problems with Bulgarian spell checking because I'm a native English speaker. This is for a program I'm writing, but perhaps this link will enlighten me. |
| 02:25.10 | kallisti | but aspell seems to use cp-1251 |
| 02:25.15 | kallisti | so maybe that's what wbulgarian uses? |
| 02:25.45 | Cambyses | Perhaps. I am not very familiar with aspell. |
| 02:26.01 | kallisti | cp-1251 and KOIR-8 seem to be the most commonly used non-Unicode encodings. |
| 02:26.10 | kallisti | *KOI8-R |
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| 02:41.43 | boudiccas | if i copy files over to a device with permissions of root:root using rsync, does it retain the original users permissions or does it change them all to root instead of user please? |
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| 02:50.53 | abrotman | boudiccas: seems like a pretty thing to test and find out |
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| 02:51.49 | boudiccas | abrotman; sorry? |
| 02:52.24 | boudiccas | ah, i get you! just sitting here and chilling out with a gin and tonic :) |
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| 03:11.23 | ksk | hey |
| 03:11.44 | ksk | why is that you can only install one ftp server? (not proftpd AND vsftpd?) |
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| 03:12.14 | ksk | (i do not wanna do this, just intersted. you can install multiple webservers for a good reason tho) |
| 03:12.53 | bambanx | guys exist any software for debian for translate , like babylon pro? |
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| 03:23.52 | abrotman | ksk: generally they listen on the same port .. you can only have one program on a single port .. obviously you could mangle this in various ways |
| 03:24.59 | dioz | MANGLE |
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| 03:27.04 | ksk | but i can use another port |
| 03:27.30 | ksk | you give good answers in here, but im not happy with that one :p |
| 03:30.08 | dioz | what happens when you apt-get them both? |
| 03:31.44 | boudiccas | in KDE there is a program called 'klipper' which shows the klipboard and your last ten entries on it, is there anything similar for Gnome please? |
| 03:32.05 | simonlnu | yes. a few in fact |
| 03:32.33 | boudiccas | simonlnu; can you name one or two please so that i can have a look at them? |
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| 03:33.51 | dioz | boudiccas: apt-cache search clipboard |
| 03:33.55 | dioz | or use packages.debian.org |
| 03:33.58 | simonlnu | !search |
| 03:33.59 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <axi-search> <debtags>. |
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| 03:36.21 | simonlnu | yes a long list, some not relevant, but i saw at least 3 there |
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| 03:38.53 | Darkelfjuggalo | Can someone tell my how I can get Java on my Squeeze since the available package[s] had to be removed due to licence agreement? |
| 03:40.48 | Darkelfjuggalo | Can someone tell my how I can get Java on my Squeeze since the available package[s] had to be removed due to licence agreement? |
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| 03:44.02 | mosno | Darkelfjuggalo: there's sun-java6* packages in squeeze |
| 03:44.39 | mosno | Darkelfjuggalo: and please don't repeat questions so frequently |
| 03:44.55 | Darkelfjuggalo | Thank you, I must have over looked them... will sun Java Run Open Office's Slide show viewer? |
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| 03:45.41 | mosno | Darkelfjuggalo: i have no idea |
| 03:46.03 | mosno | Darkelfjuggalo: perhaps check Suggests/Recommends for the relevant openoffice packages |
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| 03:46.26 | Darkelfjuggalo | kool thanks |
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| 04:00.39 | boudiccas | can i ask a question about a bash shell program that i'm going to use here please? i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask |
| 04:01.08 | hidatsa | no |
| 04:01.23 | boudiccas | then where is the right place please? |
| 04:01.31 | hidatsa | ? |
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| 04:02.16 | hidatsa | i'm just kidding, whats up? |
| 04:03.20 | innociv | What do I need to read up on if I want to set up ftp with dynamic users? As in, a user and their folder is created via a web interface. |
| 04:03.22 | Darkelfjuggalo | How do you install Multiple packages at once with Apt-get? |
| 04:03.27 | boudiccas | becuse my usb external h/d 'forgets' the permissions that are set on it every night, seemingly, i've written a little permission shell of just two command to reset it which is called by a cron job in roots crontab |
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| 04:04.46 | boudiccas | they are ......... chown root:boztu /media/8eef3b99-c17b-4913-ae61-d34c7fd5d459 .... and .... chmod 775 /media/8eef3b99-c17b-4913-ae61-d34c7fd5d459.... do i need a WAIT command in between them please? |
| 04:04.47 | hidatsa | is it formatted ext? |
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| 04:05.09 | boudiccas | hidatsa; is what formatted ext? |
| 04:05.40 | boudiccas | the external h/d is formatted ext3 |
| 04:06.27 | boudiccas | Darkelfjuggalo; leave a space bwteen each program name and just use one logn command |
| 04:06.31 | boudiccas | long |
| 04:06.32 | hidatsa | ext is a linux format, maybe they are formatted fat32, for windows computers, and they do not have the same permissions options available? |
| 04:06.48 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok thank you boudiccas |
| 04:06.55 | boudiccas | hidatsa; no, definietly it is ext3 |
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| 04:09.18 | hidatsa | what happens to the permissions? |
| 04:09.32 | boudiccas | hidatsa; they revert to root:root |
| 04:09.52 | boudiccas | so user cannot create a directory on there |
| 04:11.53 | hidatsa | does the mount point you use have permissions set for a non-root user? |
| 04:13.04 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 pgk3 ..... |
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| 04:13.13 | boudiccas | hidatsa; yes, to root:boztu |
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| 04:15.47 | hidatsa | maybe try changing permissions to boztu:boztu? where are you mounting it? /media? |
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| 04:17.01 | boudiccas | hidatsa; yes /media/8eef3b99-c17b-4913-ae61-d34c7fd5d459, tried changing to boztu:boztu but it didnt stick |
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| 04:18.06 | hidatsa | did you have to add an entry to fstab for it or are you using automount? |
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| 04:19.49 | boudiccas | hidatsa; its in fstab |
| 04:20.32 | hidatsa | can you paste the line? |
| 04:20.50 | boudiccas | hidatsa; which line, the fstab one? |
| 04:20.58 | hidatsa | yeah |
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| 04:21.42 | boudiccas | /dev/sdb1 /media/8eef3b99-c17b-4913-ae61-d34c7fd5d459 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 04:23.46 | houken | houken : hi there |
| 04:24.12 | hidatsa | maybe try "defaults" instead of "rw,user,noauto" |
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| 04:28.52 | boudiccas | hidatsa; all very worth while, but you've missed the point of my original question ..... they are ......... chown root:boztu /media/8eef3b99-c17b-4913-ae61-d34c7fd5d459 .... and .... chmod 775 /media/8eef3b99-c17b-4913-ae61-d34c7fd5d459.... do i need a WAIT command in between them please? |
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| 04:31.38 | houken | hi there |
| 04:31.44 | hidatsa | i'm not sure I understand, the commands listed should only return when thwy are complete, I didn't think they would need a wait command between them to give them time between |
| 04:31.55 | houken | i am new here |
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| 04:32.47 | houken | I have several question about the X system of debian |
| 04:32.51 | boudiccas | hidatsa; they are in a shell program that is run by root cron at 2355 to ensure that the usb external h/d permission are set correctly |
| 04:33.29 | boudiccas | before users backup program starts at 0000 |
| 04:33.46 | hidatsa | yeah, I'm just not sure why the permissions aren't right to begin with |
| 04:34.22 | boudiccas | for some reason the drive reverts to root :root so i need to rest them before backup time |
| 04:34.32 | boudiccas | reset |
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| 04:36.40 | houken | what kind of X system or wm are u using with debian?? |
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| 04:37.19 | houken | i want a pure CLI environment and don't like Gnome, How can i do |
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| 04:41.47 | hidatsa | maybe add a umask=777 option to the end of your fstab options |
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| 04:43.21 | boudiccas | after the default you mean? |
| 04:44.08 | hidatsa | wither after "defaults" or after "rw,user,noauto" |
| 04:44.20 | hidatsa | i'm guessing a little bit here |
| 04:45.20 | boudiccas | its now after defaults |
| 04:45.21 | Darkelfjuggalo1 | i just installed sun-java6, but things I need my java for say the java is out of date anyone know how to update it? |
| 04:45.58 | boudiccas | and i'm going to bed as its nearly 0500 here |
| 04:46.24 | hidatsa | ok, sorry i couldn't help |
| 04:47.59 | hidatsa | houken? you can just do a minimal install to avaoid getting gnome. Either that or ctrl-atl-1 will get you a pure cli |
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| 04:48.44 | houken | hidatsa:yes I tried the minimal install without gnome |
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| 04:49.10 | hidatsa | so there was a problem? |
| 04:49.31 | houken | hidatsa:but since i am rather new to linux, i am not familiar with which X system can I use |
| 04:50.29 | houken | hidatsa:i have tried ratpoison |
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| 04:51.08 | hidatsa | gnome is best if you are new. There are lots of choices, like KDE, XCFE, fluxbox, etc |
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| 04:52.31 | cwebber | anyone know of alternatives to reprepro? |
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| 04:53.29 | hidatsa | ratpoison seems pretty minimal, what os are you used to? |
| 04:53.37 | houken | hidatsa:yeah i am using gnome, but i want to get rid of that fancy things |
| 04:54.04 | houken | hidatsa:i have been using ubuntu for half a year and now i am trying to turn to debian |
| 04:55.42 | houken | hidatsa:u know in fact it's not necessary for me to do that change, i just interested in CLI environment, just for fun |
| 04:57.31 | hidatsa | yeah, i like cli for most stuff too, make things easier to script |
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| 04:58.42 | hidatsa | do you use irssi? |
| 04:58.46 | houken | hidatsa:so what kind of wm environment r u using |
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| 04:58.59 | houken | hidatsa:currently i using erc |
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| 04:59.08 | hidatsa | gnome right now |
| 05:00.18 | hidatsa | I just run a terminator shell in gnome so I can still use all the defaults for audio and video |
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| 05:00.34 | houken | yes exactly |
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| 05:00.51 | houken | gnome default software are convenient |
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| 05:01.14 | hidatsa | they sure are |
| 05:01.36 | houken | that's also why i am struggling |
| 05:01.50 | dvs | too bad gnome isn't |
| 05:02.16 | houken | i can't get rid all of them, otherwise i will lost all the gnome default software |
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| 05:03.11 | houken | i tried to install minimal debian without gnome, and i found there is even no pppoeconf i can use |
| 05:04.06 | houken | i was crazy that time, how can i connect to internet without pppoeconf on a minimal debian |
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| 05:05.32 | hidatsa | I just have my router set up for that, i've never tried that |
| 05:07.14 | houken | also i found it's hard to manage files under CLI |
| 05:07.35 | houken | any CLI software or tricks to do that? |
| 05:07.59 | hidatsa | like moving files? |
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| 05:08.27 | hidatsa | or editing them? |
| 05:08.27 | nsadmin | houken, download the packages and install them |
| 05:08.45 | houken | i mean moving and copying files |
| 05:08.58 | houken | also browsering |
| 05:09.26 | nsadmin | well, for that you would need to learn basic unix-style commands and the shell |
| 05:09.47 | houken | oh yeah i know |
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| 05:10.39 | houken | back to previous question, anyone know how to connect to internet with a minimal debian |
| 05:10.48 | nsadmin | houken, download the packages and install them |
| 05:11.48 | nsadmin | you would need a list of the packages to install, it might be more than one |
| 05:12.00 | houken | i see |
| 05:12.24 | nsadmin | then, using the other os you have, you would download them |
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| 05:17.59 | goshawk1 | hello folks, is there another debian channel for people using the powerpc port? |
| 05:18.36 | Hydroxide | !ppc goshawk1 |
| 05:18.45 | Hydroxide | !ppc |
| 05:18.46 | houken | i find that there are quite few people in other channel... |
| 05:18.46 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>, <ppc64>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 05:19.23 | nsadmin | what other channel? |
| 05:19.33 | goshawk1 | yes, what other channel? |
| 05:19.35 | goshawk1 | :-) |
| 05:19.53 | goshawk1 | oh, #debianppc |
| 05:20.03 | nsadmin | goshawk1, yes, on oftc |
| 05:20.20 | houken | i tried to ask sth in debian-desktop |
| 05:20.33 | houken | and i found i am the only people there... |
| 05:20.47 | nsadmin | connecting to the internet has nothing to do with desktop |
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| 05:23.04 | hidatsa | lo siento pero no hablo espanol |
| 05:26.24 | houken | by the way what kind of programming language are u guys using most frequently |
| 05:26.53 | goshawk1 | java |
| 05:27.22 | houken | i am major in CFD so i use matlab, and fortran but not familiar with java or c |
| 05:28.18 | nsadmin | houken, any one I want :) |
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| 05:28.53 | hidatsa | i use c# for windows, php for web, and perl for scripting |
| 05:28.56 | goshawk1 | ls |
| 05:29.06 | goshawk1 | oops, wrong window, sorry :-) |
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| 05:29.18 | houken | cool... i am also interested in learning more languages, like python or perl |
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| 05:29.25 | Zeranoe | Hello, I'm having issues getting alsa to work with my soundcard, should I send an email to the mailing list or is there someone on here that could help me resolve this? |
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| 05:29.40 | nsadmin | I'm never learning php |
| 05:29.49 | skilz | !alsachecklist |
| 05:30.28 | hidatsa | yeah php kinda sucks, their functions consistent |
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| 05:30.47 | Zeranoe | I've done the "check list" before, to no avail. I'm not sure where the issue is rooted |
| 05:30.49 | hidatsa | ^aren't |
| 05:30.50 | skilz | !alsa-checklist |
| 05:30.50 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer to unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <arts> or <esound> stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 05:31.00 | houken | hello xbd... |
| 05:31.42 | MrFrood | !tell skilz about selftell |
| 05:31.49 | heroxbd | houken: Hello. How's your debian installation goes? |
| 05:32.11 | nsadmin | !msg the bot for helpers |
| 05:32.12 | dpkg | please tell people to /msg apt <factoid name> rather than use tell; then they do it once by their own choice. |
| 05:32.19 | Zeranoe | I have done all of those things yet I still get no sound. I do somehow get sound on puppy, not sure why, but it must be configured different. |
| 05:32.35 | hidatsa | !tell hidatsa about selftell |
| 05:32.37 | houken | xbd: i just need gnome... |
| 05:33.30 | houken | heroxbd: especially because there is no pppoeconf in minimal debian |
| 05:34.21 | heroxbd | houken: for gnome, you can just aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment and make a cup of tea. |
| 05:35.28 | houken | heroxbd: no I mean i tried to get rid of gnome but i cant, because i don't even know how to connect net without it |
| 05:35.29 | heroxbd | houken: I think you'd better save a copy of your pppoe configuration file and use directly with ppp and pppoe. |
| 05:35.48 | heroxbd | houken: then when you do a new installation, you can easily reuse it. |
| 05:35.58 | houken | heroxbd: i see |
| 05:36.19 | houken | heroxbd: yesterday i reinstall all the os and i will try that today |
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| 05:37.06 | heroxbd | houken: Hmmm, so.. got you. Just learn to configure ppp with pppoe manually and reuse the configuration file. Using gnome (network manager)just for PPP is not a cool thing to do. |
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| 05:37.32 | heroxbd | houken: ok, good luck ;) happy hacking. |
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| 05:38.33 | houken | i 'm using happy hacking lite2 keyboard now... |
| 05:38.44 | heroxbd | houken: pastebin you ppp debug messages and we can help you. |
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| 05:39.53 | houken | heroxbd: :) |
| 05:39.56 | heroxbd | houken: cool;) I once used that for a while and swithed to a nice feeling gaming keyboard. |
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| 05:47.19 | myp | http://paste.debian.net/150071/ - i need no dhcp-client, why ntpdate trying to install it ? |
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| 05:52.46 | myp | i removed dhcp3-client and all okay now, sorry for disturb |
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| 06:57.21 | Firztspawn | does anyone have a plain simple way of installing nvidia? |
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| 06:57.47 | Firztspawn | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers - noe of these crap methods work |
| 06:57.51 | Firztspawn | none* |
| 06:59.14 | ruslan_osmanov | Firztspawn, isn't noveau installed by default? |
| 06:59.27 | Firztspawn | I would like nvidia please |
| 06:59.33 | Firztspawn | not the freeware |
| 07:00.50 | ruslan_osmanov | ah. I had problems with proprietary drivers some time ago, and decided to use the default nouveau for nvidia. For some reason it shown better results |
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| 07:14.51 | Firztspawn | finally - found something that works |
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| 08:08.19 | miadbahrami | how to run web admin in server |
| 08:08.52 | Woet | .. what? |
| 08:11.27 | ssfdre38 | miadbahrami, what are you talking about? |
| 08:11.53 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, i install webadmin in vps to config bind9 |
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| 08:12.14 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, and not too run by may ip address |
| 08:12.31 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, 79.175.164.234:1000 |
| 08:12.56 | meta-coder | ,versions |
| 08:12.57 | judd | (versions <pattern> [--arch <i386>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and i386 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages. |
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| 08:13.19 | ssfdre38 | miadbahrami, you dont even have webmin installed |
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| 08:13.27 | meta-physicist | ,versions |
| 08:13.28 | judd | (versions <pattern> [--arch <i386>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and i386 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages. |
| 08:14.20 | ssfdre38 | miadbahrami, what distro is installed on your VPS |
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| 08:14.36 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, debian squeeze |
| 08:14.56 | ssfdre38 | have you installed webmin? |
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| 08:15.26 | Firztspawn | anybody in here installed lirc on stable? |
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| 08:16.10 | ssfdre38 | miadbahrami, you want to first get LAMP (Localhost Apache2 MySQL PHP5) going on your VPS |
| 08:16.49 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, i need to run my django project |
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| 08:17.50 | ompaul | Firztspawn: not here however, to be effective the way to do it is: Hi I'm running X on Y and I do this A and expected B but I'm stuck / it does something else or foo |
| 08:18.02 | ssfdre38 | and im telling you what to do first to get it going so you need to install LAMP first on your server by typing apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql php5-mysql php5-gd phpmyadmin |
| 08:18.17 | ompaul | Firztspawn: after all one persons beginner is another's expert |
| 08:18.51 | Firztspawn | ompaul well.. everyone raves about this app called m-a which appears to do nothing really to actually installing anything |
| 08:18.52 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, Lamp Package name? |
| 08:19.11 | ompaul | Firztspawn: watch me not rave about it ;-) |
| 08:19.15 | Firztspawn | so now I am getting pissed at time wasted googling trying to find other ways |
| 08:19.17 | ssfdre38 | miadbahrami, follow what i put for you to put in your SSH |
| 08:19.27 | miadbahrami | wait |
| 08:19.38 | Firztspawn | which either dont work how the guide suggests... so I am stuck |
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| 08:19.57 | ssfdre38 | miadbahrami, im just guessing but this is the first time you are getting a web server going? |
| 08:20.28 | ompaul | Firztspawn: so what you want to say is there is an app called m-a and you don't know how to make it work etc |
| 08:20.43 | ompaul | Firztspawn: as I said I have nothing to do with that space at all |
| 08:20.52 | Firztspawn | ahh but I know how to make it work : m-a a-i ... |
| 08:21.08 | Firztspawn | just that it does not install lirc |
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| 08:22.19 | ompaul | Firztspawn: you install lirc by apt-get update && apt-get install lirc |
| 08:22.35 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, yes i first config |
| 08:22.38 | Firztspawn | done that |
| 08:22.56 | Firztspawn | also installed the linux headers... build-essential etc etc |
| 08:23.17 | Firztspawn | installed lirc-modules-source |
| 08:23.22 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, i not fluent english writing |
| 08:23.30 | Firztspawn | tarred that bz2 file |
| 08:23.31 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, help me too config vps |
| 08:23.33 | ompaul | then lirc is installed - so you are not diagnosing what is wrong |
| 08:23.59 | Firztspawn | lirc maybe installed... but the module is not created |
| 08:24.22 | ompaul | try lsmod |
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| 08:25.23 | Firztspawn | nothing to do with lirc if I run 'lsmod' |
| 08:26.18 | ompaul | well you best state the app you want to run the fact you put that lirc in with apt-get and sit back off the pedal for a bit, I don't know it at all - not in my user space |
| 08:27.32 | ompaul | Firztspawn: while you are waiting on someone else to pick this up read this http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=36134 |
| 08:29.17 | ssfdre38 | miadbahrami, http://docs.ssfdre38.com/tutorials/server/ubuntu-apache-web-host follow that and use http://translate.google.com to translate it to your lang |
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| 08:30.59 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, my distro is debian? |
| 08:31.02 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, my distro is debian! |
| 08:31.48 | ssfdre38 | miadbahrami, Ubuntu is based out of Debian so all commands will be the same |
| 08:31.58 | miadbahrami | ssfdre38, Thanks |
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| 08:58.37 | ssfdre38 | who here has built gnome 3.2 on debian 6.0.3 |
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| 09:01.28 | fly80 | babilen: hello |
| 09:01.37 | fly80 | are u there? |
| 09:04.43 | fly80 | where may I find the irssi client logs? |
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| 09:13.14 | Applejuice | Hi. I have a very old graphics card (Nvidia 4200GO), and I wondered if the latest Debian still supports that. |
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| 09:15.42 | EmleyMoor | Applejuice: nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx... may well support it |
| 09:16.07 | Applejuice | EmleyMoor: So just install it and love it? |
| 09:16.14 | EmleyMoor | 4200 seem to be listed |
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| 09:18.36 | boudiccas | , versions parcellite |
| 09:18.37 | judd | Package: parcellite on i386 -- lenny: 0.7-1; squeeze: 0.9.2-1; sid: 1.0.2~rc3-1; wheezy: 1.0.2~rc3-1 |
| 09:19.02 | Applejuice | EmleyMoor: Nice. And what CD do you recommend? The Netinstall or the normal CD-installer? |
| 09:19.10 | wallee | ssfdre38: no |
| 09:19.32 | wallee | ssfdre38: default sqz de is gnome2 |
| 09:19.54 | EmleyMoor | Applejuice: I usually use netinstall, if the card I am installing with is supported |
| 09:20.15 | wallee | Applejuice: use dd or utraliso or netbootin |
| 09:20.27 | wallee | exit |
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| 09:20.48 | Applejuice | I'll just put it on a USB stick via Ubuntu :-) |
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| 09:29.57 | fly_80 | hello, yesterday I ran this command because I had an error on nvidia-installer running gdm: aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 09:30.57 | fly_80 | babilen hints me to do that, but it suggested another command after that, but I can't remember that command, I think it was something about initramfs |
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| 09:31.38 | boudiccas | fly_80; then read your scroll back or log then |
| 09:32.04 | fly_80 | boudiccas, I was on irssi in text mode, i dont' know if there is a log |
| 09:32.31 | fly_80 | i saw in ~/.irssi and found nothing |
| 09:33.26 | boudiccas | fly_80; at what time in GMT did this conversation take place and i'll look in the scrollback |
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| 09:35.36 | fly_80 | boudiccas, another thing.. it was on #debian-next in another irc server it suggested babilen |
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| 09:36.36 | fly_80 | i think it was at 00.00-01.00 |
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| 09:37.11 | boudiccas | fly_80; babilen> fly80: I would suggest to hop over to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net at 2343 yesterday |
| 09:37.40 | fly_80 | boudiccas, yes, now I can ask on that channel |
| 09:37.44 | fly_80 | thanks |
| 09:37.54 | boudiccas | fly_80; cant help you when it was on a differetn server |
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| 09:38.32 | boudiccas | different |
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| 09:46.02 | omido | hi . i'm noob. i want to install debian . i'm downloading debian cd |
| 09:46.46 | Black | Omido, good luck guys |
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| 09:47.38 | meta-coder | What the hell is this: [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung |
| 09:47.51 | meta-coder | Debian 6.0.3 froze! |
| 09:47.57 | omido | black most distros were problematic on my laptop. now i'm downloading debian kde 64bit cd . i have few questions. when i installed debian 32bit gnome cd i couldnt reboot or shutdown my system .instead it went to a command line environment. also i needed firmware to get my wireless working . |
| 09:48.33 | JyZyXEL | meta-coder: the graphics driver hung itself |
| 09:48.49 | meta-coder | JyZyXEL, Why? |
| 09:49.16 | JyZyXEL | guess he wasn't too happy about something |
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| 09:50.07 | Black | Omido. What is your laptop?maybe some hardware need firmware or properiatery driver to work |
| 09:50.17 | meta-coder | The next lines are: render error detected, EIR: 0x00000000 |
| 09:50.24 | meta-coder | [drm:i915_do_wait_request] *ERROR* i915_do_wait_request returns -5 (awaiting 826789 at 826788) |
| 09:50.36 | JyZyXEL | pastebin the whole thing |
| 09:50.46 | omido | black its a lenovo thinkpad with intel core2dou , 4gb ddr3 . ATI mobility radeon 4500 , intel wifi bgn 100 |
| 09:51.15 | Black | Meta-coder.. Intel 845 card so buggy |
| 09:51.28 | meta-coder | JyZyXEL, Black: http://pastebin.com/UnmTKz62 |
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| 09:52.19 | meta-coder | Just three suspicious lines in /var/log/kern.log |
| 09:53.34 | meta-coder | Black, how did you figure it is Intel 845 ? |
| 09:54.00 | Black | Meta-coder. Is that true? |
| 09:54.08 | meta-coder | Black, Yes! |
| 09:54.17 | JyZyXEL | you'll need to make a bug report |
| 09:55.08 | meta-coder | JyZyXEL, report to which package? |
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| 09:55.56 | Black | Meta-coder, i have this one card too..it was so buggy |
| 09:56.15 | qdb | hello. yesterday once i started system, there were no login prompt in ctrl alt f1 f2 etc windows. how can it be? i restared, and they appeared |
| 09:56.59 | Black | Meta-coder. Try with enable dkms |
| 09:57.12 | meta-coder | Black, it has been working fine for last 8 years here! |
| 09:58.15 | JyZyXEL | i guess you could report it to the kernel image package |
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| 09:59.13 | Black | Meta-coder, yeah,lenny was working great,but squeeze update not make me happy |
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| 09:59.56 | JyZyXEL | hey now, squeeze is better, no exceptions! |
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| 10:01.08 | meta-coder | Are the modules that get installed with Virtualbox causing this? |
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| 10:01.23 | JyZyXEL | how do you figure that? |
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| 10:05.03 | meta-coder | JyZyXEL, i am asking. i recently installed the virtualbox package |
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| 10:05.38 | JyZyXEL | you could try blacklisting virtualbox modules |
| 10:05.49 | JyZyXEL | their known to be crappy |
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| 10:08.48 | qdb | why there are 2 debian channels? |
| 10:08.59 | qdb | freenode and debian... |
| 10:09.00 | meta-coder | completely removes virtualbox-ose |
| 10:09.16 | meta-coder | qdb, freenode is not a debian channel. |
| 10:09.58 | qdb | meta-coder, i know i mean on freenode and on oftc |
| 10:10.12 | qdb | irc.debian.org |
| 10:10.41 | qdb | http://www.debian.org/support#irc - this on freenode is not official |
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| 10:11.11 | qdb | but there were more users |
| 10:11.22 | qdb | several days ago |
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| 10:16.06 | qdb | but http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC links to freenode stats |
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| 10:17.41 | qdb | and also no freenode in http://wiki.debian.org/IRC#Official_Debian_IRC_channels |
| 10:17.45 | MrFrood | qdb: it just is the way it is, given it is mostly the same people answering the questions in both channels use whichever network you prefer |
| 10:18.46 | qdb | http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604 says it was in freenode |
| 10:19.04 | MrFrood | it moved |
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| 10:20.58 | bzed | qdb: the official #debian channel is on the network irc.debian.org points to :) |
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| 10:23.24 | omido | debian is not suitabloe for newbies |
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| 10:23.39 | MrFrood | omido: since when? |
| 10:23.57 | omido | MrFrood: i cannot even reboot my system |
| 10:24.30 | MrFrood | omido: did read the installation manual? |
| 10:24.48 | omido | some of it |
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| 10:25.54 | MrFrood | omido: we have some of the best documentation of any of the distros plus freindly & helpful irc channels and mail lists |
| 10:26.27 | omido | MrFrood: i hve downloaded debian kde 64bit cd |
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| 10:26.48 | MrFrood | omido: cd1 or netinstall |
| 10:27.00 | omido | cd 700mb |
| 10:27.11 | MrFrood | cd1 |
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| 10:27.46 | MrFrood | that should give you a fully workin GUI operating system if installed right |
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| 10:29.00 | omido | MrFrood: do i have to download all cd's ? my connection speed is very low and i'm downloading things at 10-20 kb/s . people told me that debian is a good distro for people with a connection like me |
| 10:29.27 | MrFrood | omido: just the first CD is fine |
| 10:30.05 | somiaj | you can get away with just downloading the netinstall cd (its about 200Megs) |
| 10:30.17 | lstarnes | or even the businesscard cd |
| 10:30.23 | omido | MrFrood: when installing i skipped the network part |
| 10:30.27 | somiaj | and then only download what other packages you want need, though cd1 will contain mostly what you need. |
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| 10:30.54 | omido | right now i have debian squeeze 6.0.3 kde 64 bit cd and debian squeeze 6.0.0 gnome 32bit live cd |
| 10:30.58 | omido | which one is better? |
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| 10:31.28 | lstarnes | the first if you have a 64-bit capable system |
| 10:32.16 | MrFrood | the first if you have more tha 4GB of mem otherwise whichever gui you prefer |
| 10:32.42 | omido | i have intel core2dou t9600-4gb ddr3 ati mobility radeon hd 4500 |
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| 10:34.10 | MrFrood | omido: take a look at kde and gnome2 and decide which you like the look of best |
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| 10:34.47 | omido | i'mm ok with everything(exept unity and gnome3) |
| 10:35.16 | MrFrood | omido: wheezy will have gnome3 when it becomes stable |
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| 10:35.47 | meta-coder | Just curious why Debian file servers run Unix and not Debian? :) |
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| 10:36.46 | omido | thnx i'm going to install .brb |
| 10:37.21 | meta-coder | Eg http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/ |
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| 10:38.56 | themill | meta-coder: mirrors aren't run by the debian project, they're donated |
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| 11:05.29 | meta-coder | likes Debian, and expresses his gratitude to the Debian Project developers. |
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| 11:15.05 | _ramo | hi |
| 11:15.17 | raschipi | hello |
| 11:15.56 | _ramo | i am instaslling kvm on debian 6 (squeeze) and wanted to install squeeze as virtual machines.... now kvm just allows "lenny" and "etch" to be suites for the virtual machines..... is lenny the "same" as squeeze? |
| 11:16.51 | [Sanyi] | _ramo |
| 11:16.56 | boudiccas | ramo no |
| 11:17.01 | [Sanyi] | lenny is the oldstable brench |
| 11:17.11 | [Sanyi] | such as etch sarge woody etc.. |
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| 11:17.57 | [Sanyi] | guys |
| 11:18.13 | [Sanyi] | why doesnt compiled 3.x kernel my squeeze? |
| 11:18.31 | [Sanyi] | i tried to compile 3.1.5 but it fails make-kpkg |
| 11:18.32 | [Sanyi] | :'( |
| 11:18.53 | _ramo | so kvm does not allow to install squeeze as a suite? |
| 11:19.53 | qdb | i shoudl not edit apache2 conf but httpd conf? |
| 11:20.54 | qdb | i read usr share doc ... eadme debian |
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| 11:23.31 | _ramo | is no one using kvm here with squeeze as a suite? |
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| 11:25.34 | yskapell | hello guys |
| 11:25.49 | lstarnes | I wasn't aware that kvm had suites |
| 11:25.56 | yskapell | Does anyone have try to paly swtor in debian stable? |
| 11:26.35 | _ramo | lstarnes: how do you virtualize a squeeze on a squeeze? i've just read the doc and tried to adapt it to the squeeze |
| 11:26.51 | lstarnes | _ramo: just run a regular kvm instance |
| 11:26.53 | _ramo | as described on http://wiki.debian.org/VMBuilder |
| 11:26.57 | somiaj | yskapell: I would check out the appdb on winehq.org to see what is needed to get it to run. You will probabaly have to compile a more recent wine on squeeze, but that is possible. |
| 11:27.35 | lstarnes | _ramo: you don't need vm builder |
| 11:27.59 | yskapell | somiaj: I am compiling now the 1.3.34 version of wine and I will check. I have a 64bit debian and I hope everything to go smooth |
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| 11:28.25 | _ramo | lstarnes: do you have an tip how to run kvm with squeeze |
| 11:28.49 | somiaj | yskapell: provided you have all the -dev libs and gcc-multiarch compiling wine on debian is fairly straight forward. just keep the source around so you can 'make uninstall' to remove wine from /usr/local if you want to remove it and install another version. |
| 11:29.36 | _ramo | lstarnes: are you working with virtinst? |
| 11:29.43 | lstarnes | _ramo: just plain old kvm |
| 11:29.48 | yskapell | somiaj: I will configure and make. I will not make install |
| 11:29.54 | lstarnes | _ramo: no extra stuff like virtinst or vmbuilder |
| 11:30.06 | lstarnes | well actually qemu with -enable-kvm |
| 11:30.58 | somiaj | yskapell: well make install will put it in /usr/local and it won't conflict with debian packages if you want to isntall it that way (I personally just compile it into a single .deb to install) |
| 11:31.43 | _ramo | lstarnes: i've started reading this article: http://wiki.debian.org/KVM#Introduction and i want to created vms from the command line... so the article recommend using virtinst |
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| 11:39.14 | yskapell | one more help please... |
| 11:39.39 | yskapell | If I play a video using mplayer I have sound. If I try to watch a video from youtube no sound |
| 11:39.44 | yskapell | anyidea? |
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| 11:40.32 | streuner_ | !flash |
| 11:40.33 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> for a free implementation or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
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| 11:42.03 | Woet | or just use the html5 version of youtube |
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| 11:43.16 | qdb | streuner_, Woet he says only no sound |
| 11:43.36 | Woet | i read it, and maybe it's an issue with flash. |
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| 11:44.08 | HSorgYves | morning, is there a way to mount an FTP account as drive in Debian? |
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| 11:44.29 | Woet | http://www.debian-tutorials.com/networking/mounting-sftp-and-ftp-shares-on-debian |
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| 11:45.38 | HSorgYves | Woet: thanks |
| 11:46.28 | HSorgYves | May I use such a drive as "normal" one, i.e. using tar cf /mnt/that_drive/ /var/* ? |
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| 11:46.57 | Woet | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.19 | Woet | so your actual question is, how to put a backup on a FTP server? |
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| 11:48.18 | yskapell | Can not find the 32 bit dev files for wine... |
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| 11:49.11 | sparx__ | hi can som1 tell me how to share this f!@!#%! printer on samba? :) |
| 11:49.12 | somiaj | yskapell: install the 32bit version of the -dev libaries |
| 11:50.12 | yskapell | I know but can not find them using synaptic |
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| 11:50.21 | yskapell | I install -dev but for 64 bit |
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| 11:51.18 | somiaj | yskapell: ia32-libs-dev (there are some lib32foo-dev ones you may need to) |
| 11:54.38 | HSorgYves | Woet: my question is: How to put a backup on an FTP server when the local HD space is not enough to tar-bzip the data |
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| 11:57.50 | Woet | HSorgYves: rsync |
| 11:58.11 | HSorgYves | Woet: more precisely? |
| 11:58.39 | Woet | HSorgYves: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/rsync-command-examples/ |
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| 12:00.41 | HSorgYves | Woet: thx, but then the files are not compressed |
| 12:00.54 | Woet | HSorgYves: |
| 12:01.02 | Woet | 'In the above rsync example: -z is to enable compression' |
| 12:01.06 | Woet | from that same webpage. |
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| 12:02.33 | HSorgYves | Woet: nevertheless, I assume that compressing creates a temporary file which cannot be done, lack of space |
| 12:02.42 | Woet | HSorgYves: you shouldn't assum |
| 12:02.43 | Woet | e |
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| 12:03.01 | HSorgYves | Woet: then let me know I am wrong ;-) |
| 12:03.23 | Woet | I am not sure whether you are wrong, because I never had that problem. Try it and see. |
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| 12:04.12 | HSorgYves | ok, thx |
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| 12:04.59 | jeax | hey guys, i have a 6 year old laptop that wasn't the best when i bought it. |
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| 12:05.21 | jeax | low on ram, has a centrino duo...battery is dead, etc. i'm wanting to install a very minimal linux distro on it. |
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| 12:05.25 | jeax | as i understand, debian can be quite minimal, yes? |
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| 12:07.12 | Black | Jeax,yes,exactly |
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| 12:07.43 | rhineheart_m | hello..just want to know if the "echo" needs a package to be installed or not? |
| 12:07.58 | rhineheart_m | I have a script....want to run it |
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| 12:11.08 | Black | Its installed by default |
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| 12:11.45 | jeax | Black: how would you compare debian to gentoo? |
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| 12:12.02 | jeax | in your own opinion, safe from flame wars and such. |
| 12:12.11 | jeax | i'm up in the air about the two distros right now |
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| 12:13.04 | Black | Jeax, i think there are some differences between them |
| 12:14.59 | mikey | Has anyone experimented with DCTCP in linux? |
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| 12:15.21 | jeax | i mostly do security/development. i have lots of little scripts, mess with web code quite a bit, and i code full-scale apps, like spin-offs of the quake engine and such. |
| 12:15.26 | jeax | so in essence: a development machine. |
| 12:15.28 | Black | Jeax, especially gentoo was more automatic for working with sources |
| 12:16.01 | rhineheart_m | Black thanks.. could you please give me additional info on how to do this? http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Getting_IPTables_to_survive_a_reboot/print |
| 12:16.14 | jeax | one of my main draws to gentoo is all the hardening, but as i'm reading, Debian has its own hardening mechanisms |
| 12:16.20 | jeax | and you can, of course, run selinux on anything |
| 12:16.21 | rhineheart_m | the part that I don't know is..Then create a script so ifupdown loads these rules on boot: |
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| 12:17.26 | Black | Rhineheart..you can use iptables-save and iptables-restore on your script |
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| 12:19.27 | Black | Jeax, yeah,for kernel based security,i think gentoo n debian share a lot of same thing |
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| 12:20.09 | Bartzy | Is there a way to create a tmpfs/ramfs mount, that when empty, will overwrite the oldest file(s) ? |
| 12:20.19 | jeax | Black: Debian setup would likely be way faster, eh? |
| 12:20.53 | Black | Jeax, i think yes.. |
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| 12:25.02 | rhineheart_m | Black can you give me an example? |
| 12:25.21 | rhineheart_m | I tried to google.. but I can't find a good one |
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| 12:28.34 | Black | Just configure your iptable rules,run iptables-save to specific files |
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| 12:29.13 | koko_ | hi |
| 12:30.06 | lduros | koko_: hello |
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| 12:30.18 | koko_ | how can i use ll |
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| 12:30.39 | koko_ | because i obliged to use ls -l |
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| 12:32.46 | Black | Koko, are you mean ll alias for ls -l? |
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| 12:37.23 | rhineheart_m | Black yes it is in the instruction... iptables-save > /etc/firewall.conf... but how to make it survive after reboot? |
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| 12:43.01 | DerPate | Happy x-mas |
| 12:43.42 | lduros | DerPate: merry christmas to you too :-P |
| 12:44.04 | DerPate | lduros sry for shortinig but for an server wide msg i have to ;) |
| 12:44.20 | lduros | no problem at all |
| 12:44.21 | lduros | :-) |
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| 12:44.32 | DerPate | ok |
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| 12:45.03 | anAngel | Hello, any way to loop/refresh/update the content of certain file in /proc folder in the terminal? Something similar to tail but for overridden content not appended. |
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| 12:54.53 | CNerone | pp |
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| 12:55.29 | CNerone | hi all, a question to you: I'm using aptitude to manage deb packages. I uses may apt-sources so... I want to know where does each release come from (i.e.: 4.0 from debian stable, 5.3 from testing, 5.2 from backports...). How can I do it? |
| 12:56.31 | nkuttler | CNerone: apt-cache policy package? |
| 12:56.32 | pedro | How do I solve this problem in KDE to mount partitions: org.freedesktop.hal.device.volume.permission.denied: refusing to mount device / dev/sda3 is uid: 1000? |
| 12:57.18 | CNerone | nkuttler, I'm looking for a way to know that info by aptitude GUI |
| 12:57.30 | CNerone | not by command line |
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| 12:59.01 | CNerone | when I'm selecting a package to upgrade I need to know if I'm selecting it from stable, backports, testing, unofficial repositories (i.e.: debian-multimedia) |
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| 12:59.18 | pedro | in gnome, the partitions are mounted when I click on them, now in KDE, I can not mount them. |
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| 13:03.53 | pedro | My prtitions no mount un KDE, how I solve this problem, please? |
| 13:04.08 | pedro | *in |
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| 13:25.51 | sKeiths | can i get aptitude, apt-get, or synaptic package managers to upgrade iceweales running on stable debian beyond 3.5.16? |
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| 13:26.13 | Applejuice | sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't update it? |
| 13:26.48 | sKeiths | thats the version it has me at |
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| 13:27.15 | sKeiths | which seems quite old to me |
| 13:28.22 | nkuttler | !tell sKeiths about mdn |
| 13:28.39 | Applejuice | If it isn't updated, it won't be able to update ;) |
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| 13:35.44 | sKeiths | are you familiar with this error, i'm looking for solution with searches but if you are familiar it might help what to look for. W: GPG error: http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 85A3D26506C4AE2A |
| 13:37.12 | yskapell | I run swtor but nothing happens check this http://pastebin.com/ki1WqrrE |
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| 13:39.38 | sKeiths | okay. searches helped, need to manually add gpg keys for repository |
| 13:39.53 | pedro | Hi... |
| 13:40.23 | pedro | My partitions not moutn in KDE, haw, I can fix this? |
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| 13:41.53 | technologov | hi all ! |
| 13:42.24 | qdb | hello i have runned dpkg reconfigure keyboard data but keymap has not changed. so instruction i read is not correct. i need to relogin or reboot ? |
| 13:42.25 | technologov | how to config wireless ? (I have downloaded non-free firmware) |
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| 13:42.37 | technologov | but unable to setup encrtyption to WPA2 |
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| 13:43.21 | technologov | I did: iwconfig wlan0 essid [XYZ] |
| 13:43.27 | cbrmonger | technologov: you need wap_supplicant |
| 13:43.36 | sKeiths | haha, iceweasel 9.01.. i didn't know my version was so old. thanks for the help Applejuice and nkuttler |
| 13:43.42 | pedro | cbrmonger, hello. |
| 13:43.46 | cbrmonger | technologov: wPA_supplicant |
| 13:43.48 | qdb | relogging in do not help |
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| 13:45.27 | cbrmonger | pedro: can't help you, don't use kde or gnome, have you checked syslog? |
| 13:47.00 | qdb | one how to says to install console-data console-tools . i have not installed them, my keymaps are already available |
| 13:48.32 | pedro | the message apers is: xor.freedesktop.Hal.device.Volume.Permission.Denide: Refusing to mount device /dev/sda3 fou uid:1000 |
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| 13:51.31 | technologov | hi ! |
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| 13:51.52 | technologov | any idea how-to config wireless ? (I installed non-free firmware) |
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| 13:52.05 | technologov | and configured SSID |
| 13:52.06 | CNerone | I have a problem: installing icedove and iceweasel from mozilla.net repository my linux box freezes... |
| 13:52.10 | technologov | and passowrd |
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| 13:52.22 | technologov | iwconfig wlan0 essid {ID} |
| 13:52.37 | technologov | iwconfig wlan0 key {KEY} |
| 13:52.46 | technologov | but how-to config WPA2? |
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| 14:17.37 | icarious | in my bios there are 3 options for the sata controller IDE / AHCI/RAID.. which one is better to use for linux? in terms of disk performance ? |
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| 14:19.00 | bamboozle | I'm trying to run lxappearance, but it closes itself before I get to the GUI -- I ran it in strace and this was the result: http://r0b0ts.org/lxappearance.png |
| 14:19.11 | bamboozle | I have /no/ idea what I'm doing. |
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| 14:21.04 | sKeiths | icarious, with single disk config, achi is best performance, ide is best compatibility. to get more performance you need multi disks and a striping raid. |
| 14:21.15 | icarious | and double physical HDD? |
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| 14:22.10 | sKeiths | with two disk and a striping raid you should be able to read and write twice as fast as single disk |
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| 14:24.01 | icarious | sKeiths: how do i configure a stripping raid in debian? or it occurs automatically |
| 14:24.01 | Marezz | Can anyone help me to put debian iso on my usb and make it bootable? unetbootin doesnt work :( |
| 14:24.08 | icarious | sorry for the noob question |
| 14:24.14 | icarious | Marezz: use dd |
| 14:24.34 | icarious | dd if=/location/of/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M |
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| 14:24.37 | Marezz | icarious, could you explain please? I only used unetbootin for that |
| 14:24.45 | icarious | run the above command |
| 14:24.59 | icarious | make sure u give the name of ur USB drive.not the partition |
| 14:25.11 | icarious | like sda or sdb..not sda1 or so |
| 14:25.11 | sKeiths | its in your bios. change to raid, then when booting you will see an option to configure raid, before any os starts, something like press f9 to configure |
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| 14:25.30 | icarious | sKeiths: ok and then? |
| 14:25.46 | Marezz | sKeiths, I dont have option to boot from usb in bios, like usb isnt bootable anymore |
| 14:26.03 | sKeiths | thats it. once configured, the os sees it as one big disk. |
| 14:26.10 | icarious | sKeiths: wont i lose entire data if one of the HDD fails ....? |
| 14:26.31 | sKeiths | yes, there is no redundancy. |
| 14:26.38 | icarious | ok got it |
| 14:26.43 | icarious | Marezz: how old is ur PC? |
| 14:26.48 | Marezz | icarious, about 5 years |
| 14:26.56 | icarious | any pc after 2006 has the option to boot USB media |
| 14:26.59 | Iridos | bamboozle, is that the package of lxappearance on squeeze? |
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| 14:27.16 | Marezz | icarious, it can boot from usb, I did it before, its just it wont work since recently |
| 14:27.21 | Marezz | like its not bootable anymore... |
| 14:27.28 | icarious | Marezz: just run DD as i said above |
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| 14:27.50 | icarious | #dd if=/location/of/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M |
| 14:27.53 | icarious | will work |
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| 14:27.56 | Marezz | icarious, do I have to format usb before that? |
| 14:28.03 | icarious | Marezz: best if you do |
| 14:28.44 | icarious | mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/partition should work.. |
| 14:29.06 | Marezz | I used gparted |
| 14:29.15 | Marezz | only boot flag should be checked right? |
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| 14:30.46 | icarious | Marezz: yes |
| 14:31.18 | Marezz | icarious, should command look like this? sudo dd if=/home/comedian/downloads/debian-6.0.3-i686.iso of/dev/sdb1 bs=8M |
| 14:31.50 | icarious | no |
| 14:31.52 | icarious | just sdb |
| 14:31.56 | Marezz | ok |
| 14:32.03 | Iridos | dpkg, tell Marezz -about usb install |
| 14:32.07 | icarious | during format sdb1 |
| 14:32.23 | Iridos | there's a bit at the end about booting from usb via the harddisk |
| 14:33.14 | icarious | Marezz: make sure the disk is not mounted when u run dd |
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| 14:33.27 | icarious | umount /dev/sdb1 |
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| 14:34.27 | Marezz | icarious, dd: unrecognized operand `of/dev/sdb' |
| 14:34.38 | Marezz | is it "if" or "of"? |
| 14:34.58 | jordanm | Marezz: looks like you are missing a "=" |
| 14:35.27 | Marezz | oh right |
| 14:35.28 | Marezz | my bad |
| 14:36.09 | WormFood | Marezz, do NOT get 'if' and 'of' mixed up, or you'll be fuckin' up some stuff. |
| 14:36.49 | Marezz | WormFood, noted, thanks :) lol |
| 14:36.55 | icarious | WormFood: lmao |
| 14:37.17 | Marezz | icarious, Its done, now only reboot and select boot from usb right? |
| 14:37.28 | icarious | paste ur last command |
| 14:37.34 | icarious | lets see if u fucked up anything |
| 14:37.35 | WormFood | real easy to remember: if = In File; of = Out File |
| 14:38.23 | Marezz | sudo dd if=/home/comedian/downloads/debian-6.0.3-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=8M |
| 14:38.30 | icarious | ok |
| 14:38.32 | icarious | perfect |
| 14:38.36 | icarious | u can reboot and try |
| 14:38.40 | Marezz | ok brb :D |
| 14:38.44 | icarious | and lolz @ comedian |
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| 14:38.55 | icarious | WormFood: what was the "if" for zero filling |
| 14:39.09 | WormFood | if=/dev/zero |
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| 14:39.22 | icarious | and what should one use to format the MBR entirely? |
| 14:39.32 | WormFood | or, my favorite, if=/dev/urandom |
| 14:39.50 | WormFood | you want to erase the mbr and partition table? |
| 14:40.03 | icarious | just the MBR |
| 14:40.17 | icarious | like say the grub is there after removing linux |
| 14:40.22 | icarious | i wanna remove it from MBR |
| 14:40.32 | WormFood | does not matter |
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| 14:41.02 | WormFood | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=1 bs=512 <-- will erase the first sector, which also has the partition table too |
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| 14:41.15 | icarious | WormFood: interesting |
| 14:41.39 | WormFood | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record |
| 14:41.43 | llutz | MBR only: dd.... bs=440 count=1 |
| 14:42.06 | WormFood | the MBR is the first sector |
| 14:42.13 | WormFood | the partition table is part of the MBR |
| 14:42.21 | WormFood | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record |
| 14:42.36 | llutz | WormFood: have you read what you linked? |
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| 14:42.59 | WormFood | it shows the layout of the MBR, and the fact that the partition table is part of it |
| 14:43.04 | llutz | 01BE0676446Table of primary partitions |
| 14:43.49 | WormFood | yeah, if you erase the first 440 bytes, you'll erase all the boot code. |
| 14:43.52 | llutz | ok - MBR without partition-table: dd.... bs=440 count=1 |
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| 14:44.04 | WormFood | so, you want to erase the boot code, not the MBR |
| 14:44.21 | WormFood | the boot code only matters if you're trying to boot from that drive |
| 14:44.31 | Marezz | icarious, it now detects the usb in bios but it wont boot from it, sends me to grub :( |
| 14:45.05 | WormFood | Marezz, I came into the middle of things...what exactly are you trying to do? Make a bootable usb from an iso image? |
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| 14:45.34 | Marezz | WormFood, Im trying to put iso on usb and install from it |
| 14:45.47 | icarious | WormFood: yes. and i suggested dd |
| 14:45.50 | icarious | Marezz: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallUsingStandardInstaller |
| 14:45.55 | WormFood | are you sure your bios supports booting from an iso image like it was a cd? |
| 14:45.56 | Iridos | seems he wants to install from usb.... I gave him the factoid with pretty much all the info he needs 15 minutes or so ago, but he ignored it |
| 14:46.00 | Iridos | *shrug* |
| 14:46.11 | WormFood | booting from usb is tricky at best |
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| 14:46.18 | Marezz | WormFood, I already said it does, I did this before, only it was with unetbootin |
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| 14:46.56 | WormFood | so why not use unetbootin again? |
| 14:47.26 | icarious | the motherboard bios's are crap.. happens with me.. i dd the image.. i select the usb during bootup. it takes me to grub.. i restart and select again and it works..weird stuff |
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| 14:48.28 | WormFood | by the way, you can also use cp instead of dd...like 'cp /path/to/file.iso /dev/sdb'....but using dd is nice, because you can send dd a sigusr1, and it will print out how much it has copied. |
| 14:48.32 | Marezz | WormFood, cuz it seems that unetbootin doesnt work right, I tried but it wont detect the usb in bios that way |
| 14:48.48 | WormFood | so that tells me that it does not work |
| 14:48.53 | Marezz | I will try to reboot again |
| 14:48.55 | Marezz | see what happen |
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| 14:51.10 | icarious | Any news of a testing based Debian branch which wont be rolling? |
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| 14:51.38 | WormFood | rolls a joint |
| 14:51.44 | WormFood | what do you mean icarious? |
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| 14:52.04 | cookiemon5ter | can i not get firefox via debian ? |
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| 14:52.21 | icarious | WormFood: CUT may be |
| 14:52.37 | WormFood | not via the official debian repos |
| 14:52.46 | WormFood | you may be able to get it via some other repos |
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| 14:53.24 | cookiemon5ter | is there a special name for firefox |
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| 14:53.32 | WormFood | iceweasel |
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| 14:54.14 | Iridos | cookiemon5ter, it's renamed to iceweasel in debian due to... well, I guess one can say legal reasons |
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| 14:54.32 | Iridos | dpkg, iceweasel |
| 14:54.32 | dpkg | Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces it in Debian as of Etch. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. Use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. See also <iceweasel backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel |
| 14:54.47 | WormFood | cookiemon5ter, aptitude search ~dfirefox <-- will find it for you |
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| 14:57.24 | cookiemon5ter | i can't get amazon instant video to work with chrome or iceweasel >.< |
| 14:57.36 | WormFood | is it flash based? |
| 14:57.43 | cookiemon5ter | think so |
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| 14:57.47 | WormFood | is adobe flash installed? |
| 14:57.53 | WormFood | or something compatible? |
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| 14:58.23 | cookiemon5ter | yes |
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| 15:04.12 | Marezz | Iridos, could you send it again? |
| 15:04.16 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter: which iceweasel ? |
| 15:04.41 | cookiemon5ter | 3 5 16 |
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| 15:05.32 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter:using squeeze right? |
| 15:05.36 | cookiemon5ter | yes |
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| 15:07.01 | cookiemon5ter | it doesn't work on windows with chrome either =p |
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| 15:07.14 | leon21 | hello, is there a debian live cd with gnome 3 out already? |
| 15:07.32 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter: see mozilla.debian.net .. follow instructions for the squeeze release channel there |
| 15:07.51 | abrotman | leon21: skeptical.. ask #debian-live on irc.oftc.net |
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| 15:08.20 | leon21 | abrotman: can i use some webchat to connect to oftc? |
| 15:08.32 | abrotman | leon21: i have no idea .. i don't use webchat |
| 15:08.37 | cookiemon5ter | i'm just gonna watch this video on my kindle fire for now |
| 15:08.41 | ksk | hi. why is there no "ddate" in util-linux in sid? :D |
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| 15:08.52 | abrotman | leon21: or see live.debian.net |
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| 15:09.02 | abrotman | ddate ? |
| 15:09.20 | CissWit | NAME |
| 15:09.22 | abrotman | ksk: did you check the changelog ? |
| 15:09.22 | CissWit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:09.32 | abrotman | CissWit: thanks .. i know what it is |
| 15:09.38 | Marezz | icarious, mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdb to format it? |
| 15:09.41 | abrotman | judd: file ddate --release sid |
| 15:09.46 | judd | Search for ddate in sid/i386: gworkspace.app: usr/lib/GNUstep/Bundles/FModuleModDate.finder/FModuleModDate; logwatch: usr/share/logwatch/scripts/shared/applybinddate, usr/share/logwatch/scripts/shared/applystddate; request-tracker4: usr/share/request-tracker4/html/Elements/EditCustomFieldDate, usr/share/request-tracker4/html/Elements/ShowCustomFieldDate |
| 15:09.55 | abrotman | judd: file bin/ddate --release sid |
| 15:09.57 | leon21 | abrotman: links point to eg. http://live.debian.net/cdimage/daily-builds/ which is empty |
| 15:09.58 | judd | No packages in sid/i386 were found with that file. |
| 15:10.08 | abrotman | ksk: see the changelog .. |
| 15:10.12 | ksk | okay, thanks |
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| 15:10.18 | abrotman | leon21: then you'll have to ask #debian-live |
| 15:10.42 | leon21 | abrotman: ok thanks |
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| 15:11.51 | icarious | Marezz: sdb is the whole device. u format the partition which is sdb1 |
| 15:12.05 | icarious | and during dd you use the entire device |
| 15:12.28 | abrotman | !dbugs 650321 |
| 15:12.32 | dpkg | #650321:G[util-linux] util-linux: ddate missing from util-linux 2.20.1 (); Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:09:05 UTC [] |
| 15:12.34 | abrotman | ksk: ^^ |
| 15:12.41 | ksk | mhm, theres just some entry from back in 2003 which says "put ddate back in" if i look into ddate sid changelog |
| 15:12.49 | ksk | ah |
| 15:12.51 | ksk | :D |
| 15:12.55 | sverek | hi i removed /etc/nginx dir during reinstalltion on nginx, but now i cant purge the package nginx because it is not fully installed, i have tried to install with --reinstall install and reconfigure but nothing helps, i just want to get rid of the package so i can do a clean install |
| 15:13.00 | sverek | any tips |
| 15:13.06 | Marezz | icarious, when I use mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdb1 I get /dev/sdb1: No such file or directory |
| 15:13.30 | icarious | fdisk -l should give you the list of your current devices and partitions |
| 15:13.48 | icarious | is your USB even partitioned well? |
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| 15:14.25 | sverek | ie how do i purge a broken package or really reinstall it |
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| 15:14.47 | abrotman | sverek: what is the full error when you try to remove it or reinstall it ? |
| 15:14.53 | Marezz | fdisk -l |
| 15:14.57 | Marezz | ooops xD |
| 15:15.00 | Milos | Is it possible not to display the absolute folder working directory in the console, but rather only the name of the current folder? |
| 15:15.03 | Milos | That stuff can get pretty big. |
| 15:15.06 | sverek | abrotman: w8 ill pate on pastebin |
| 15:15.12 | abrotman | sverek: paste.debian.net |
| 15:15.31 | jordanm | Milos: echo "${PWD##*/}" |
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| 15:15.45 | abrotman | jordanm: fishing is hard! |
| 15:15.46 | Milos | jordanm, and to make it permanent? |
| 15:15.56 | sverek | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/150094/ |
| 15:15.57 | jordanm | Milos: permanent where? |
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| 15:16.04 | jordanm | Milos: in PS1? |
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| 15:16.10 | Milos | jordanm, yeah |
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| 15:16.16 | abrotman | sverek: moment |
| 15:16.28 | jordanm | Milos: PS1 is special, ask #bash |
| 15:16.35 | Milos | jordanm, ok thanks |
| 15:16.40 | abrotman | sverek: touch /etc/nginx/nginx.conf |
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| 15:16.57 | jmd | How can I find out what packages/modules/firmware/magic/etc I need to install to get my wifi card working? |
| 15:17.10 | abrotman | which wifi card is it ? |
| 15:17.32 | sverek | http://paste.debian.net/150095/ |
| 15:17.42 | sverek | needs something in that file :/ |
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| 15:18.26 | sverek | somebody can upload that file on pastebin? |
| 15:18.30 | abrotman | sverek: and if you try to reinstall it ? |
| 15:18.36 | sverek | abrotman: w8 |
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| 15:18.45 | abrotman | wait |
| 15:18.58 | abrotman | it's a word .. a whole word .. not a letter and a number mashed together ... |
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| 15:20.05 | sverek | http://paste.debian.net/150096/ |
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| 15:20.37 | abrotman | !tell sverek about confnew |
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| 15:21.22 | abrotman | sverek: which version of linux is this? |
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| 15:22.18 | sverek | http://paste.debian.net/150097/ root@www:/etc/nginx# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 15:22.19 | sverek | 6.0.3 |
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| 15:22.51 | abrotman | sverek: apt-get update before you try to reinstall |
| 15:22.58 | sverek | thanks |
| 15:22.59 | jordanm | sverek: check /var/log/daemon.log and nginx specific logs to seet why it is failing to start |
| 15:23.26 | abrotman | sverek: that version of nginx is NOT in debian.. where did you get it ? |
| 15:23.41 | icarious | abrotman: if i am use Trisquel .. would i get Debian specific support in this channel? keeping the troubleshooting apart? |
| 15:23.44 | jordanm | ,versions nginx |
| 15:23.46 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- lenny: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-backports: 0.7.67-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.7.67-3; squeeze-backports: 1.1.8-2~bpo60+1; sid: 1.1.11-1; wheezy: 1.1.11-1 |
| 15:23.53 | sverek | from deb http://nginx.org/packages/debian/ squeeze nginx |
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| 15:24.10 | abrotman | icarious: no, it' snot Debian .. they have their own support |
| 15:24.28 | sverek | abrotman: so yes i guess their package is buggy... |
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| 15:24.51 | abrotman | icarious: we do not support distros based-on-debian .. there are hundreds of distros using the Debian package format .. we can't support them all |
| 15:24.54 | sverek | ill dl the debfile and dig out the etc dir |
| 15:24.54 | jordanm | sverek: you will have to goto #nginx for support of their upstream packages |
| 15:25.10 | sverek | jordanm: yes, thnx |
| 15:25.18 | icarious | abrotman: sad.. i shifted to trisq cause i needed an updated distro which is not rolling like testing / SID. a bit stabilized yet updated.... |
| 15:25.19 | sverek | and thnx abrotman |
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| 15:25.35 | icarious | abrotman: i can understand that. but there are debian specific queries at times. like packaging, etc.. the core system |
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| 15:25.45 | icarious | i dont think the variants differ in that much |
| 15:26.08 | icarious | ofcourse troubleshooting can be considered offtopic but the concepts? |
| 15:26.09 | abrotman | icarious: please ask #redhat about your SuSE problems .. let me know how it goes .. this channel DOES NOT support Trisquel |
| 15:26.31 | abrotman | icarious: this is not up for debate .. Trisquel is offtopic in #debian |
| 15:26.33 | jordanm | icarious: many distros apply patches to apt/dpkg, and we have no way of knowing not being users of those distros |
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| 15:26.53 | icarious | abrotman: suse uses RPM . is not a Red Hat based distro..But Ubuntu / Trisquel is directly based on Debian Sid . everyone knows that |
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| 15:27.15 | icarious | i was just implying.incase i am using trisquel.but i needed debian specific help. like packaging and the core... would i get help or not |
| 15:27.34 | abrotman | icarious: Trisquel is based on Ubuntu, not Debian .. Ubuntu is not supported here either .. Trisquel is not supported here |
| 15:27.36 | aguitel | abrotman, when testing become stable ,there will be option to run gnome 2 ? |
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| 15:27.54 | abrotman | icarious: we don't know how Trisquel has fucked up dpkg/apt .. ask them, not us .. End of Disucssion |
| 15:27.56 | pangolin | Trisquel is not supported in #ubuntu either (besides the point I know) |
| 15:28.07 | icarious | merv@coredump:~$ cat /etc/debian_version |
| 15:28.08 | abrotman | aguitel: doubtful .. i haven't seen those MATE packages in unstable yet |
| 15:28.09 | icarious | squeeze/sid |
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| 15:28.12 | icarious | not the same result for suse and redhat |
| 15:28.13 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@122.163.30.22] by abrotman |
| 15:28.13 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 15:28.18 | abrotman | and we're done |
| 15:28.25 | abrotman | icarious: please go to #trisquel |
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| 15:29.43 | aguitel | abrotman, i don't know why but testing freeze in my desktop and stable run fine |
| 15:29.59 | abrotman | aguitel: did you try as another user |
| 15:30.28 | aguitel | abrotman, no ,why ? |
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| 15:31.01 | aguitel | abrotman, install from scratch |
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| 15:31.46 | abrotman | aguitel: how did you install GNome? |
| 15:32.23 | aguitel | abrotman, in testing there is gnome 3 in default |
| 15:32.36 | abrotman | i'm aware |
| 15:32.43 | aguitel | abrotman, i not install nothing special |
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| 15:33.39 | aguitel | i have old hardware in this machine |
| 15:34.18 | aguitel | intel graphic card |
| 15:34.31 | abrotman | aguitel: so? i have an intel card too |
| 15:34.44 | abrotman | aguitel: did you try another WM? like XFCE ? |
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| 15:34.57 | aguitel | abrotman, lxde i try |
| 15:35.20 | aguitel | abrotman, but install over gnome |
| 15:35.28 | abrotman | and they both freeze? |
| 15:35.35 | aguitel | abrotman, yes |
| 15:36.17 | aguitel | maybe the kernel? |
| 15:36.21 | wt0vremr | aguitel, have you tried *box ? |
| 15:36.25 | abrotman | aguitel: did you try the vesa driver? |
| 15:36.41 | wt0vremr | or another xorg config, vesa driver? |
| 15:36.46 | aguitel | abrotman, no |
| 15:37.29 | aguitel | abrotman, how i do that |
| 15:37.48 | abrotman | you'll have to create an xorg.conf |
| 15:38.01 | aguitel | and |
| 15:38.37 | wt0vremr | agutel, and fill it with settings. |
| 15:39.01 | aguitel | wt0vremr, what setting |
| 15:39.33 | aguitel | no xorg.conf in my system |
| 15:40.07 | wt0vremr | aguitel, hmmm... btw, do you have such GRUB option as safe mode? |
| 15:40.25 | aguitel | wt0vremr, yes |
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| 15:41.07 | aguitel | this is my card:VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) |
| 15:41.10 | Milos | What is console-setup keyboard-setup and kbd in rcconf? |
| 15:41.15 | Milos | Are they critical if I never use a console? |
| 15:41.18 | Milos | Are they critical if I do use a console? |
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| 15:42.08 | wt0vremr | okay, so you need intel or vesa dirver |
| 15:42.41 | wt0vremr | aguitel try to boot to safe mode. if you see no desktop, type "startx" |
| 15:42.45 | aguitel | wt0vremr, how install vesa driver and fill xorg.conf |
| 15:43.25 | aguitel | wt0vremr, my question is thsystem freeze when it become inactive |
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| 15:43.49 | aguitel | wt0vremr, it is running |
| 15:44.09 | aguitel | wt0vremr, but when is inactive there is the bug |
| 15:44.20 | aguitel | it freeze |
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| 15:44.39 | wt0vremr | aguitel, ow, I see. What do you actually mean by "inactive"? Suspend? Hibernate? Screen lock& |
| 15:44.41 | wt0vremr | ? |
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| 15:45.35 | aguitel | screen lock and no keyboard responding |
| 15:46.05 | wt0vremr | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.20 | aguitel | wt0vremr, no responding |
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| 15:46.46 | aguitel | wt0vremr, all errors are in testing |
| 15:47.04 | aguitel | wt0vremr, in squeeze all is fine |
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| 15:50.03 | aguitel | wt0vremr, ok |
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| 16:03.32 | Jayro | does anyone know how i can control screen brightness on my netbook? i am running openbox |
| 16:04.02 | dury | hi there all :) |
| 16:04.10 | Jayro | gnome-settings-daemon works for my volume keys, but when i press the brightness keys it shows the meter on the screen, but it dosnt change |
| 16:05.04 | dury | does anyone involve with phpmyadmin #1045 cannot log in to the MySQL Server |
| 16:06.13 | wt0vremr | dury hi |
| 16:07.13 | Jayro | anyone? |
| 16:07.24 | dury | wt0vremr hi there |
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| 16:10.10 | houken | hi there |
| 16:10.40 | dury | wt0vremr: can you help with phpmyadmin |
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| 16:13.57 | fritz | hi all.I have a problem.when used fbtem in tty.it echo can't open frame buffer device!what should i do now/ |
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| 16:16.45 | mjt | um. Anyone know what's needed to watch 10bit h264 video on debian? |
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| 16:17.25 | mjt | vlc says "avcodec decoder error: don't know how to convert chroma 72" and shows no video |
| 16:17.32 | wt0vremr | dury, what's the problem? |
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| 16:19.54 | dury | wt0vremr: #1045 cannot log in to the MySQL Server |
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| 16:20.20 | dury | wt0vremr: through phpmyadmin :( |
| 16:20.42 | wt0vremr | dury, check db name, prefix, password and host. twice. |
| 16:20.47 | WormFood | mjt, did you try mplayer? |
| 16:22.21 | mjt | from this post -- http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=70929 -- it looks like mplayer is not able to play it too |
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| 16:22.49 | mjt | lemme try |
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| 16:23.22 | WormFood | it is rare that I find a video that neither mplayer nor vlc will play |
| 16:23.43 | gomi | i installed minimal debian and can't display japanese and chinese now |
| 16:23.47 | mjt | um. mplayer shows green squares |
| 16:24.01 | gomi | anyone know which package should i install? |
| 16:24.18 | WormFood | gomi, search for the ttf fonts, and you'll find several that will work |
| 16:24.33 | WormFood | gomi, can you see this 你好? |
| 16:24.41 | gomi | no |
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| 16:25.22 | gomi | so can i search ttf in aptitude and install all the relative package? |
| 16:25.46 | dury | wt0vremr: do u know an url to paste config.inc.php to see if it's correct |
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| 16:27.00 | gomi | WormFood: so can i search ttf in aptitude and install all the relative package? |
| 16:27.07 | dury | wt0vremr: I?m trying http://pastebin.com but doesn't work for me |
| 16:27.29 | gomi | WormFood: or i need other package and i have to search and install myself |
| 16:27.35 | WormFood | relevant package, yes |
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| 16:28.21 | WormFood | if there is something the font depends on (and it shouldn't), then it should prompt you to automatically install it. |
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| 16:31.14 | WormFood | gomi, try this, to find the chinese and japanese ttf fonts --> aptitude search ttf|egrep -i "jap|chin" |
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| 16:34.04 | HSorgYves | re, what is wrong in: if [ ! -e $FOLDER/mail.zip -a -e F${NOW}* ]; |
| 16:34.08 | gomi | WormFood: oh it works |
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| 16:34.17 | gomi | WormFood: awesome:) |
| 16:34.31 | WormFood | gomi, 很好 ;) |
| 16:34.37 | abrotman | HSorgYves: and what doesn't work ? you might want to ask #bash |
| 16:34.42 | abrotman | WormFood: English, seriously |
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| 16:34.58 | HSorgYves | abrotman: line 35: [: too many arguments |
| 16:35.02 | WormFood | abrotman, did you not see he was having problems with is chinese/japanese fonts? |
| 16:35.06 | gomi | WormFood: but i still can't see what u type ... |
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| 16:35.17 | abrotman | WormFood: there is a channel to help people with that |
| 16:35.24 | WormFood | hhhmmm...then perhaps your irc client isn't handling utf-8 properly |
| 16:35.33 | abrotman | HSorgYves: i'm not seeing anything .. maybe ask #bash |
| 16:35.38 | WormFood | there is abrotman? What kind of channel is that? |
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| 16:35.40 | abrotman | (assuming it's bash) |
| 16:35.42 | abrotman | !zh |
| 16:35.42 | dpkg | it has been said that zh is 如果您想要得到中文的協助，請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道，加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號)，謝謝您的合作！ If you want to get helped in Chinese, please move to #debian-zh at irc.oftc.net. To join, type "/server irc.oftc.net" and "/join #debian-zh" (without quote). Thank you! |
| 16:35.43 | gomi | WormFood: i use erc |
| 16:35.49 | HSorgYves | abrotman: thx, trying that and yes it is |
| 16:35.51 | abrotman | !jp |
| 16:35.51 | dpkg | Japanese speakers: please use #debianjp on irc.debian.or.jp or speak English here. |
| 16:36.01 | abrotman | HSorgYves: okay |
| 16:36.03 | WormFood | right, so if the channel is empty, then how are we supposed to get help? |
| 16:36.28 | abrotman | on OFTC? |
| 16:36.54 | WormFood | you jerk, we're not askin for help in chinese....he is clearly speaking english....just because he has problems with his fonts, does not mean we should take it to a chinese channel |
| 16:36.55 | abrotman | there are 11 people in -zh |
| 16:36.58 | dury | wt0vremr: have a look please http://paste.org/42778 |
| 16:37.01 | WormFood | hell, I don't even know if he can speak chinese |
| 16:37.13 | abrotman | please stop calling people names |
| 16:37.16 | WormFood | he never said, he just said he has font problems |
| 16:37.31 | gomi | settle down... |
| 16:37.36 | WormFood | quit giving bitching at me for typing a few characters in chinese to try to help someone |
| 16:38.09 | abrotman | gomi: tried another client like irssi or also consider your xterm app doesn't do UTF8 |
| 16:38.24 | abrotman | like Eterm doesn't do UTF8 IIRC |
| 16:38.38 | gomi | I am really new to linux so I have other 2 problem |
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| 16:39.07 | abrotman | decides, as usual, WormFood is not worth talking to |
| 16:39.12 | gomi | one is , now I use debian with CLI, and no GUI, how can I loggout by command? |
| 16:39.22 | abrotman | gomi: 'exit' |
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| 16:39.26 | abrotman | or 'logoff' |
| 16:39.48 | WormFood | decides, as usual, abrotman is a control freak |
| 16:39.58 | gomi | thanks |
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| 16:40.23 | abrotman | if you wouldn't decide rules didn't apply to you, that wouldn't happen |
| 16:40.28 | gomi | another is, i use xinit to start my X, and the default shell is xterm |
| 16:40.57 | abrotman | gomi: why not use startx or a DM like GDM orKDM ? |
| 16:41.12 | jetscreamer | abrotman has yet another fan! |
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| 16:41.21 | abrotman | jetscreamer: i'm upset, truly |
| 16:41.29 | gomi | abrotman: What's DM... |
| 16:41.36 | jetscreamer | i feel your pain bor |
| 16:41.39 | jetscreamer | err bro |
| 16:41.59 | abrotman | gomi: like GDM or KDM .. they autostart X so you don't have to manually start it .. Think of it like that login manager for Windows |
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| 16:42.25 | abrotman | they can do more than that .. but that's the general idea |
| 16:42.28 | gomi | abrotman: oh thanks...i will google it |
| 16:42.29 | WormFood | gomi, DM = Desktop Manager |
| 16:42.40 | gomi | WormFood: :) |
| 16:42.52 | WormFood | GDM = Gnome DM, and KDM = KDE DM |
| 16:43.07 | ajikeshi_ | youre missing xdm |
| 16:43.11 | ajikeshi_ | ;) |
| 16:43.15 | jetscreamer | personally i prefer gdm but it's all a matter of taste |
| 16:43.16 | WormFood | and there is more too, I'm sure |
| 16:43.20 | gomi | oh i don't want any GUI... |
| 16:43.24 | jetscreamer | there are many more ?dm's |
| 16:43.30 | gomi | I really like CLI |
| 16:43.30 | abrotman | you don't want to autostart X .. |
| 16:43.36 | WormFood | personally I prefer not to use any DM. I prefer to boot to a CLI, and run startx |
| 16:43.54 | abrotman | gomi: okay, so you probably want ot use startx .. but anyway .. what do you want your X terminal emulator to be |
| 16:43.57 | abrotman | ? |
| 16:44.16 | gomi | abrotman: xterm is just too small |
| 16:44.22 | jetscreamer | would this be an alternatives kind of thing |
| 16:44.24 | abrotman | too small ? |
| 16:44.27 | WormFood | gomi, try gnome-terminal |
| 16:44.27 | gomi | abrotman: and font size is also small |
| 16:44.32 | abrotman | jetscreamer: can be .. depends on the WM/DE |
| 16:44.36 | jetscreamer | you can change that |
| 16:44.44 | gomi | WormFood: i didn't install gnome. |
| 16:44.44 | abrotman | gomi: okay, that can be configured .. but did you want a different xterm ? |
| 16:44.45 | jetscreamer | try holding shift and right click |
| 16:44.53 | jetscreamer | or left or middle |
| 16:44.56 | jhutchins_lt | gomi: ... and you can't figure out how to change that? |
| 16:45.02 | WormFood | you don't need to install all of gnome to use gnome tools |
| 16:45.14 | abrotman | gomi: if you 'man xterm' .. it tells you to use .. uhm ~/.Xresources IIRC to configure that for every time |
| 16:45.16 | jetscreamer | it will suck in a lot more than it has to though |
| 16:45.29 | WormFood | you can run gnome and kde apps side-by-side....and you don't need to be running either kde or gnome desktop environments either |
| 16:45.31 | abrotman | says the guy using GDM :) |
| 16:45.41 | gomi | so hey, are u guys using GDM or CLI? |
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| 16:45.50 | jetscreamer | i'm lazy so gdm |
| 16:46.00 | abrotman | gomi: some people use startx, some people use gdm/xdm/kdm/slim/pdm/etc |
| 16:46.01 | WormFood | gomi, I already said I use a CLI, then start X from the command line |
| 16:46.13 | WormFood | it is a matter of personal preference |
| 16:46.24 | gomi | WormFood: which shell do u use? |
| 16:46.28 | WormFood | if you start from the CLI, you probably want to use startx |
| 16:46.29 | WormFood | I use bash |
| 16:47.05 | WormFood | and for a terminal, I use gnome-termina |
| 16:47.11 | WormFood | gnome-terminal |
| 16:47.16 | gomi | WormFood: how is startx different from xinit?? |
| 16:47.36 | WormFood | dunno. I don't use xinit. |
| 16:48.05 | gomi | abrotman: How about u?Do u use GUI or CLI? |
| 16:48.15 | nkuttler | gomi: might parse different config files. check the man pages |
| 16:48.16 | jetscreamer | !tell gomi -about startx |
| 16:48.18 | abrotman | gomi: are you using xinit to start *only* xterm ? |
| 16:48.20 | jetscreamer | !tell gomi -about xinit |
| 16:48.36 | WormFood | The startx script is a front end to xinit(1) that provides a somewhat nicer user interface for running a single session of the X Window System. |
| 16:48.51 | gomi | abrotman: no i also use chrome from xinit.. |
| 16:48.52 | abrotman | gomi: i use both happily .. you can use the GUI to start a terminal, but i also use systems with no X |
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| 16:49.01 | abrotman | gomi: but you only run one app at a time ? |
| 16:49.24 | gomi | abrotman: I use ratpoison |
| 16:49.52 | gomi | abrotman: and tmux |
| 16:50.03 | gomi | abrotman: but i am not comfortable with tmux... |
| 16:50.09 | abrotman | gomi: try using startx .. it would probably suit you better .. anyway .. you can configure xterm, or install another emulator |
| 16:50.22 | abrotman | gomi: tmux is kind of the same as screen if you want something like that |
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| 16:51.12 | gomi | abrotman: thanks for advice~ i really want to learn tricks with CLI, just for fun |
| 16:51.30 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.44 | WormFood | gomi, how do you type chinese/japanese from the CLI? (not in x11) |
| 16:52.03 | gomi | WormFood: in fact that's my next question...... |
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| 16:52.20 | WormFood | I don't know. Under X11 I use ibus or scim |
| 16:52.43 | gomi | WormFood: yeah ibus is fancy |
| 16:52.53 | gomi | WormFood: maybe too fancy... |
| 16:53.11 | WormFood | in fact, from the console, I can't even see the names of my files in chinese |
| 16:53.31 | gomi | WormFood: oh yeah, that's also my problem |
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| 16:54.13 | gomi | WormFood: i think there is a solution but sometime i am lazy... |
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| 16:54.28 | WormFood | I'm not sure how to handle that from the console. I know there is a solution, but I don't know where |
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| 16:55.12 | abrotman | he could maybe ask the jp or zh channel .. hrm ... |
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| 16:55.39 | WormFood | they may have better answers....maybe not |
| 16:55.52 | abrotman | we have none .. can't hurt to try |
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| 16:55.55 | jetscreamer | #bash maybe |
| 16:55.58 | gomi | abrotman: yeah that's not most important |
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| 16:56.17 | WormFood | not that important for me either |
| 16:56.18 | gomi | abrotman: my main problem is to use CLI comfortably |
| 16:56.32 | WormFood | gomi, do you know about "screen"? |
| 16:56.39 | gomi | WormFood: yeah |
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| 16:57.11 | WormFood | do you know what <ctrl><z> does? |
| 16:57.19 | gomi | WormFood: but most of the time i cant feel its convenience |
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| 16:57.35 | WormFood | I've been doing things from the command line for 30 years |
| 16:57.40 | gomi | WormFood: no.. |
| 16:57.48 | gomi | WormFood: coolllllll |
| 16:57.58 | WormFood | <ctrl><z> is VERY handy |
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| 16:58.26 | gomi | WormFood: i will try that |
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| 16:58.59 | WormFood | the database programmer for the company I worked for, was always so careful that you were not able to look at his password when you type it in....it was funny....I told him, I didn't need to know his password, I can get past his screensaver without his password... |
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| 16:59.22 | gomi | WormFood: it's almost 2:00 here... |
| 16:59.28 | Zap-W | j\ |
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| 16:59.37 | WormFood | so I told him to <ctrl><alt><F1> to his console that he used to login to X11....then told him to hit <ctrl><z> |
| 17:00.08 | WormFood | type "bg", to make X11 continue to run, in the background...then type "killall xscreensaver"....you should have seen the look on his face when I told him that. |
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| 17:00.13 | WormFood | gomi, it is 1 am here. |
| 17:00.32 | edbian | If I install debian on a PPC mac can I get firefox 9 and the newest chrome running on it ? I think I can just compile them from source for PPC right? |
| 17:00.34 | gomi | WormFood: so u r chinese... |
| 17:00.36 | edbian | Or is this impossible |
| 17:00.50 | WormFood | gomi, no, I'm american. I just live in China |
| 17:01.17 | gomi | WormFood: which city |
| 17:01.34 | WormFood | edbian, you should be able to get FF9 for it...assuming they're still writing for that platform....chrome depends on source or their packages |
| 17:01.46 | WormFood | gomi, I'm in shenzhen, right next door to Hong Kong |
| 17:01.49 | WormFood | you? |
| 17:02.02 | edbian | WormFood, I can't take generic c source and compile it for PPC and it just work? |
| 17:02.11 | gomi | WormFood: my hometown shanghai, but right now i'm in japan |
| 17:02.12 | WormFood | edbian, maybe, maybe not |
| 17:02.13 | wt0vremr | dury have you checked all the settings? I cant see them in the paste. I mean you are the only one who knows the correct password and db name etc |
| 17:02.19 | edbian | WormFood, depending on what? |
| 17:02.20 | WormFood | it depends on how they do it |
| 17:02.33 | WormFood | edbian, do you know about programming? |
| 17:02.38 | edbian | WormFood, I do |
| 17:02.41 | valdyn | edbian: C is not java, you cant expect this to just work |
| 17:02.42 | edbian | WormFood, can you be more specific |
| 17:02.43 | WormFood | do you understand big endian and little endian? |
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| 17:03.09 | WormFood | one of the big differences between x86 and ppc, is their endiness |
| 17:03.19 | edbian | WormFood, valdyn I figured the compiler would take care of all these issues. Isn't that the point of c? Write your c code and use the architecture's compiler |
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| 17:03.26 | WormFood | sometimes that comes into play, and source code needs to be adjusted for it. |
| 17:03.32 | valdyn | edbian: nope, not at all |
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| 17:03.38 | WormFood | edbian, you're obviously not a C programmer ;) |
| 17:03.54 | gomi | WormFood: good evening and i will come back tomorrow~ |
| 17:03.55 | WormFood | no, sorry, the C compiler does not handle everything like that. |
| 17:04.03 | Neon | Hi, is it possible to install an archive from http://ftp.nc.debian.org/archlinux/multilib/os/x86_64/ with the package manager? |
| 17:04.09 | gomi | abrotman: good evening thanks for help today! |
| 17:04.11 | WormFood | ok, good luck gomi. See ya l8r wan'an |
| 17:04.47 | valdyn | edbian: C just abstracts away the machine language, it does not abstract away architectural differences beyond that |
| 17:05.05 | edbian | valdyn, I see. |
| 17:05.11 | WormFood | valdyn, good explanation....I know that, but couldn't put it into words |
| 17:05.57 | WormFood | now I thing most of the time, the endianess does not matter, but when it does, then the software has to be written the right way |
| 17:06.06 | WormFood | I'm guessing the FF will compile on PPC with no problems. |
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| 17:07.01 | edbian | So there is a lot of C code that can be compiled for multiple different architectures without editing the source right? So how do we know firefox / chrome has architecture specific details in it? |
| 17:07.21 | WormFood | look at the source code ;) |
| 17:07.26 | edbian | haha |
| 17:07.29 | valdyn | edbian: we read the source and find pointer arithmetic |
| 17:07.43 | edbian | valdyn, and then the endian-ness matters |
| 17:07.45 | edbian | :( |
| 17:08.05 | dury | wt0vremr: during this proccess dpkg-reconfigure -plow phpmyadmin I got error as well |
| 17:08.35 | WormFood | or just pass the C compiler the endian=big, or endian=small switch, and it will do all the work for you |
| 17:08.39 | WormFood | I wished it was that simple |
| 17:09.07 | edbian | We are implying that there are more architecture issues in the firefox source. How do we know this? |
| 17:09.17 | WormFood | same deal with converting 32-bit apps to 64-bit....not everything works just by recompiling |
| 17:09.32 | WormFood | we're implying you need to check the source |
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| 17:09.55 | valdyn | edbian: we dont *know* this, but we can assume with reasonable certainty that ff will be like any other software written in the same language |
| 17:10.13 | edbian | I think, instead of spending the next year reading firefox source I'll just try to compile it. Unfortunately that will take a long time too |
| 17:10.18 | edbian | valdyn, ok thanks |
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| 17:10.32 | WormFood | it is also reasonable to assume, that a project that big will have PPC fans that will make sure it compiles properly |
| 17:10.46 | WormFood | or even better, find the package for it |
| 17:11.13 | edbian | WormFood, I've been told there is a PPC port called tentourfox |
| 17:11.24 | WormFood | anyways, I gotta get out of here and go to bed. After 1am here. ya'll have a good morning/day/afternoon/evening/whatever |
| 17:11.27 | edbian | or 'tenfourfox' |
| 17:11.29 | edbian | or something |
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| 17:11.34 | edbian | thanks! |
| 17:11.49 | WormFood | ok edbian, then I suspect there is no official FF PPC port. |
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| 17:12.23 | edbian | WormFood, agreed, thanks! |
| 17:12.35 | wt0vremr | dury, that's weird. you use stable debian release, i hope? |
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| 17:13.54 | abrotman | dury: dpkg -l phpmyadmin .. which version is it ? |
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| 17:14.19 | dury | wt0vremr: one sec |
| 17:14.34 | dury | wt0vremr: as root? |
| 17:15.02 | jhutchins_lt | http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ |
| 17:15.27 | jhutchins_lt | Amazing what you can find with a bit of teh google. |
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| 17:16.50 | dury | wt0vremr: dpkg -l phpmyadmin |
| 17:16.51 | dury | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 17:16.51 | dury | | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |
| 17:16.51 | dury | |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 17:16.51 | dury | ||/ Name Version Description |
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| 17:17.12 | abrotman | we only need the last line |
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| 17:18.55 | dury | sorry for that paste... never again |
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| 17:20.16 | abrotman | we only need the last line dury |
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| 17:20.56 | dury | really sorry |
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| 17:21.10 | abrotman | it's okay |
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| 17:25.20 | koko_ | hi |
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| 17:30.34 | abrotman | dury: ? |
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| 17:31.52 | dentifrice | hey there - how big is a debian squeeze or testing base system right after install ? |
| 17:32.13 | dentifrice | (with no additionnal software) |
| 17:32.17 | abrotman | dentifrice: 500MBish ? |
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| 17:32.39 | dentifrice | hm, ok, trying to figure out if a 1gb DOM could do the job for a router |
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| 17:35.50 | cmanns | dentifrice, 1GB ram vm? |
| 17:36.10 | cmanns | Just set the FS to grow and give it like 5gigs? |
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| 17:40.26 | dentifrice | cmanns: I can't add ram |
| 17:40.37 | dentifrice | it's a very limited platform |
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| 17:52.10 | Confis | Hi. I would like to install a live image that is normally written to a flash drive, to a harddisk partition. Can GRUB then just boot in this partition. Will that partition then be treated read-only? |
| 17:53.43 | Amarande | sooo ... that's the end of the road for iceweasel aurora for me now |
| 17:53.57 | Amarande | yay for a most annoying bug just in time for the holidays heh |
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| 17:54.28 | Amarande | Every time you close a tab, literally EVERY time you close a tab, you get an Assertion Failed dialog that you have to confirm. There also seems to be some issues with scripting. |
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| 17:55.56 | symptom | Amarande, Im running IW9 havent had that problem |
| 17:56.05 | Amarande | symptom: it doesn't appear till IW11a2 |
| 17:56.15 | Amarande | 9 was fine, and so is 10 now that I downgraded to beta |
| 17:56.39 | Amarande | 11a2 is currently pretty much unusable unless you like error dialogs popping up all the time |
| 17:56.50 | symptom | noted |
| 17:56.51 | symptom | thanks |
| 17:57.11 | Amarande | every time you close a tab, an assertion fails, something to do about the tab closing animation |
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| 17:57.23 | Amarande | and it seems every page with javascript gives a complaint about "this script is not responding, do you want to stop it?" |
| 17:57.25 | symptom | well it is an alpha release |
| 17:57.44 | Amarande | although javascript *itself* seems to work just fine, as I was able to access mdn and obtain the lines to install to downgrade to beta |
| 17:58.06 | Amarande | it seems to be a bug in the code designed to determine when a script is being unresponsive |
| 17:58.20 | Amarande | though I'm not sure what they'd have touched to cause that, since I imagine that's something you don't really change often if at all :) |
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| 18:00.04 | simonlnu | well, most of the web browsers are or have revamped their js engines, so i'm not surprised that it's screwing up (it's called a bug *hint*) ;) |
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| 18:02.41 | Confis | Hi. I would like to write a live image that is normally written to a flash drive, to a harddisk partition. Can GRUB then just boot into this partition? Will that partition then be treated read-only? |
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| 18:03.56 | dutchfish | Confis, not if you told it too in /etc/fstab |
| 18:05.28 | dutchfish | Confis, and yes grub can boot it, either by telling it inside grubs config, or by trigger an autodetect by the newer grub versions |
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| 18:06.30 | Confis | And "telling it" only involves giving it the specific partition it needs to boot, or are other argument necessary. Also, this is about the 'hybrid' image, right? |
| 18:06.41 | Confis | (I'm missing a question mark there :)) |
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| 18:07.46 | dutchfish | Confis, grub can boot out of multiple configs, but yes, you need to declare it |
| 18:08.27 | dutchfish | Confis, i am talking grub2 here |
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| 18:09.58 | dutchfish | Confis, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/575 |
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| 18:10.28 | Confis | A thanks, that is exactly what I need :D |
| 18:10.44 | dutchfish | Confis, there you go ;) |
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| 18:39.11 | pythonsnake | Hi, what's the package for svn, thanks. |
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| 18:40.45 | pythonsnake | nevermind |
| 18:41.02 | dvs | heh |
| 18:42.15 | koko_ | hello |
| 18:42.38 | koko_ | can i find a best tutorial for mail server on squeeze ? |
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| 18:45.17 | wt0vremr | koko_ You surely can. We belive in you. |
| 18:46.26 | koko_ | wt0vremr: thank but i can get more time if i habe best tuto :) |
| 18:46.58 | tharkun | koko_: why would you run a mail server? |
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| 18:48.08 | koko_ | tharkun : for mail we get a dedicated server for some domain |
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| 18:48.30 | tharkun | koko_: are you recieving or are you sending mail? |
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| 18:50.19 | tharkun | koko_: I really don't know the specifics of your case but running a full blown mail server is not for the faint of heart. But anyway take a look at workaround.org you might find interesting stuff there |
| 18:50.23 | koko_ | no my server is blank |
| 18:50.37 | tharkun | koko_: what do you mean by blank? |
| 18:51.07 | koko_ | it's just installed but ovh |
| 18:51.12 | koko_ | i get it yersterday |
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| 18:56.54 | koko_ | thanks |
| 18:56.57 | PerfDave | koko_: What are you trying to achieve? |
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| 18:57.37 | koko_ | Installing mail serv on squeeze |
| 18:57.41 | PerfDave | koko_: Debian tends to use Exim as a default mailserver, and makes it fairly easy to set up several standard configurations. |
| 18:57.48 | PerfDave | koko_: What do you want to do with your mail server? |
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| 18:58.13 | koko_ | send and receive mail from my domains |
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| 18:59.13 | PerfDave | OK, so you want an SMTP server to receive incoming mail. How are your users going to read that mail? Do you need an IMAP server as well? |
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| 19:03.33 | pythonsnake | I've got problems configuring code::blocks, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/85y2naqeppRRrms4gdNh/, any ideas? |
| 19:03.39 | pythonsnake | I've got problems configuring code::blocks, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/85y2naqeppRRrms4gdNh/ , any ideas? |
| 19:04.15 | PerfDave | Looks like it's looking for g++ and you don't ahve it installed, pythonsnake |
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| 19:06.26 | PerfDave | pythonsnake: In general I'd consider installing build-essential if you're compiling your own software. And --prefix=/usr/local if you're planning a system-wide install. |
| 19:06.44 | pythonsnake | Okay, thanks |
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| 19:20.15 | arietis | anyone knows any good resource with guides about disassembling PC laptops? |
| 19:20.39 | arietis | my reserve laptop started to smell like rosin, i think it's time to check what's inside it |
| 19:22.50 | epsilon | arietis: a good howto: http://www.weltweitwerkzeug.net/images/produkte/10014779.jpg |
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| 19:27.53 | alabd | Good day all , for example in debian stable for example we have php 6 , is it possible security team fix a bug in php 6 that it exists in php 6 of php.net yet ? |
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| 19:30.54 | PerfDave | alabd: Unlikely that a security hole exists in upstream but not Debian, but not impossible. The security team does work with upstreams. |
| 19:32.36 | alabd | PerfDave: you mean when debian team fixes a bug in php will contact php upstreams ? |
| 19:33.21 | PerfDave | If they find it first, yes |
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| 19:33.56 | babilen | alabd: Which package is this? |
| 19:33.58 | PerfDave | If PHP upstream discovers a security bug, they will often tell distributions like Debian and RedHat before announcing it publically, to give those distros a chance to prepare fixes. |
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| 19:35.36 | alabd | PerfDave: how about kernel ? mean is kernel.org 2.6.32-5-amd64 as secure as debian stable kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 ? |
| 19:37.38 | babilen | alabd: The Debian kernel is heavily patched -- http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/kernel/dists/sid/linux-2.6/debian/patches/ -- Which php package were you referring to earlier? |
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| 19:38.34 | alabd | babilen: it was an example |
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| 19:39.00 | ICrash | how about grsec kernel ? which more secure ? can i find rep for grsec security ? |
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| 19:39.11 | alabd | babilen: you mean debian kernel is more secure than kernel.org kernel ? |
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| 19:39.21 | Woet | my server is under attack currently, lots of tcp packets to a specific destination port |
| 19:39.25 | dondelelcaro | ICrash: it's a patch, so you have to build kernels with grsec |
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| 19:39.35 | Woet | removing the ip from networking solves it completely, but adding it again and the complete server is down |
| 19:39.47 | Woet | so it isn't a lot of traffic, the uplink isn't filled |
| 19:39.52 | Woet | what could I do to resolve it? |
| 19:39.57 | PerfDave | alabd: I would check out http://security.debian.org/ to answer some of these questions. |
| 19:40.03 | babilen | alabd: You will find patches in certain Debian kernels that are not in the upstream version |
| 19:40.04 | dondelelcaro | Woet: what port? what are you serving there? is it from a specific ip? |
| 19:40.25 | Woet | dondelelcaro: 443, website, no many random ones non-spoofed |
| 19:40.27 | dondelelcaro | Woet: you can block it using iptables if it's to a specific port or from a range of IPs |
| 19:40.32 | Woet | so no :) |
| 19:41.15 | alabd | babilen: PerfDave are all packages in repository have been checked with debian security repo ? |
| 19:41.16 | dondelelcaro | Woet: well, it could just be a lot of requests to https; that often takes a lot of server resources to process |
| 19:41.22 | dondelelcaro | Woet: you may also not have enough entropy |
| 19:41.32 | Woet | apache disabled and the server still goes down |
| 19:41.41 | Woet | entropy for ssl you mean? what i just said should rule that out too |
| 19:42.01 | PerfDave | alabd: Like I say, I'd read the Debian Security Team website and FAQ, it will answer your questions about how the DST works and what they support. |
| 19:42.06 | pythonsnake | Debian sid has gnome 3? |
| 19:42.23 | dondelelcaro | Woet: if apache is disabled and the server still goes down, then it's something else. Responding with a NAK on a closed port takes almost no processor power |
| 19:42.47 | PerfDave | pythonsnake: Check packages.debian.org ? Suspect you don't want to run sid if you don't know how to compile software though :) |
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| 19:44.05 | Woet | dondelelcaro: just tried it, simple iptables rules blocking 443. then it's still up |
| 19:44.10 | alabd | dondelelcaro: so ICrash should add src repo and get kernel source yes ? |
| 19:44.42 | ICrash | ok , can i download kernel from kernel.org and patch it with grsec and install it ? |
| 19:45.02 | Woet | dondelelcaro: now the site is down though, obviously. I don't know how to keep it up without taking the website down |
| 19:45.30 | PerfDave | ICrash: Sorry, why aren't you using the Debian grsec kernel packages? |
| 19:45.36 | dondelelcaro | alabd: nah, you just install the patch and use deb-kpkg or whatever the right method is now to build kernel packages |
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| 19:46.00 | PerfDave | !tell dpkg -about grsec |
| 19:46.16 | PerfDave | !tell ICrash -about grsec |
| 19:46.18 | PerfDave | even |
| 19:46.53 | dondelelcaro | Woet: if you have apache running is it just the websites that are unaccessible? or the entire server? |
| 19:47.01 | Woet | dondelelcaro: entire server. |
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| 19:47.36 | dondelelcaro | Woet: uh... so how are you disabling apache? |
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| 19:47.54 | Woet | dondelelcaro: if apache isn't running (nothing is listening on port 80/443 and no apache is running) then the server still goes down |
| 19:48.07 | Woet | only if I block port 443 entirely using iptables the server remains up |
| 19:48.16 | dondelelcaro | Woet: what do you mean by "server still goes down"? |
| 19:48.30 | Woet | dondelelcaro: ssh doesnt respond, console through kvm doesnt respond, 98% packet loss |
| 19:48.45 | dondelelcaro | Woet: so you're rebooting the server each time? |
| 19:48.53 | Woet | dondelelcaro: no, what makes you think that? |
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| 19:49.04 | dondelelcaro | "I block port 443 entirely using iptables" |
| 19:49.04 | alabd | !tell ICrash -about grsec |
| 19:49.13 | Woet | dondelelcaro: yes, that doesn't require a reboot, does it? |
| 19:49.24 | dondelelcaro | Woet: yes, but that requires a server that is responding... |
| 19:49.38 | Woet | dondelelcaro: oh, I disable the VLAN on the switch so I can reach it through the KVM which is on another VLAN |
| 19:49.43 | Woet | to make the changes |
| 19:49.44 | ICrash | tnx , is any official rep exist for grsecurity compiled kernel ? |
| 19:49.50 | Woet | sorry, didn't mention that |
| 19:50.17 | simonlnu | ICrash: a packaged kernel patch |
| 19:50.30 | alabd | !tell alabd -about grsec |
| 19:50.31 | dondelelcaro | Woet: and what iptables rule are you using to block the packets? are you just droping them? or are you naking them? |
| 19:50.54 | Woet | dondelelcaro: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 443 -j DROP |
| 19:50.59 | simonlnu | alabd: /msg dpkg next time thanks |
| 19:50.59 | dondelelcaro | Woet: what sort of connection are we talking about here? |
| 19:51.13 | Woet | dondelelcaro: how do you mean? it's tcp to port 443 |
| 19:51.14 | simonlnu | !tell ICrash -about search |
| 19:51.34 | dondelelcaro | Woet: yeah, but are we talking about gigabit to multiple interconnects, or a cable modem? |
| 19:51.54 | Woet | dondelelcaro: the attack itself is only ~ 20 mbit |
| 19:52.04 | Woet | dondelelcaro: uplink is a 25 gigabit |
| 19:52.06 | Woet | -a |
| 19:52.19 | Woet | well, backbone is 25 gigabit, uplink to the server is 2 |
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| 19:52.32 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's really unusual |
| 19:52.45 | Woet | so, the attack size is not the problem. |
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| 19:54.20 | alabd | dondelelcaro: you say install patch and use deb-kpkg to build kenel but simonlnu: says grsec is a packaged , am confused kernel |
| 19:54.59 | dondelelcaro | alabd: the patch is packaged |
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| 19:55.51 | dondelelcaro | Woet: and probably if you run iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --syn --destination-port 443 -j REJECT; instad of -j DROP; the server will die again? |
| 19:55.58 | Woet | let me try |
| 19:56.05 | dondelelcaro | Woet: is this a virtual machine? or real hardware? |
| 19:56.10 | alabd | dondelelcaro:is it in debian repo ? |
| 19:56.11 | Woet | real hardware |
| 19:56.14 | Woet | so it isn't beancounters either |
| 19:56.16 | dondelelcaro | alabd: yes |
| 19:56.26 | dondelelcaro | Woet: cool; just crossing off obvious problems |
| 19:56.33 | Woet | i know, i appreciate it |
| 19:56.53 | Woet | dondelelcaro: with that rule the server doesnt die |
| 19:57.20 | Woet | well, it dies less. about 10% loss now |
| 19:57.33 | Woet | but it does help |
| 19:57.35 | dondelelcaro | Woet: hrm. Ok, that's what the server should be doing without apache running |
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| 19:57.45 | alabd | dondelelcaro: what's package name ? |
| 19:57.47 | Woet | i know |
| 19:57.49 | dondelelcaro | Woet: assuming that's the only thing that is listening on 443 |
| 19:57.53 | Woet | it is |
| 19:58.02 | Woet | okay, it dies equally now |
| 19:58.06 | dondelelcaro | ah, ok |
| 19:58.09 | Woet | the attack probably decreased for a moment |
| 19:58.13 | dondelelcaro | yeah |
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| 19:58.21 | Woet | so |
| 19:58.53 | dondelelcaro | yeah, it's almost definitley a syn flood then |
| 19:58.57 | Woet | okay |
| 19:59.01 | Woet | lets see whether csf can beats that |
| 19:59.07 | Woet | -s |
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| 19:59.32 | Woet | still too bad the anti-ddos market is so small there is no real competition |
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| 20:01.38 | Woet | dondelelcaro: okay, csf is taking care of it |
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| 20:02.29 | Woet | dondelelcaro: it had synfloods before, but then only the webserver went down instead of the entire server |
| 20:02.47 | Woet | dondelelcaro: and since CSF recommends only enabling synflood detection during attacks, i turned them off again |
| 20:02.54 | Woet | will leave them on now |
| 20:03.04 | dondelelcaro | Woet: yeah, it can get really bad if the attack is large enough |
| 20:03.14 | Girll^19 | hello |
| 20:03.33 | Woet | dondelelcaro: if you have a few hundred thousand laying around, please buy some anti-ddos equipment for me :) |
| 20:03.45 | dondelelcaro | Woet: if I did, it'd go into my research |
| 20:03.56 | Woet | i don't understand why they are so expensive |
| 20:04.07 | Woet | the hardware is 4k at most, they cost 200k/300k |
| 20:04.16 | dondelelcaro | mainly because they have to be huge, and they probably come with support contracts |
| 20:04.19 | Woet | i understand you need to pay for the software too, but this is excessive |
| 20:04.26 | Woet | no, support contracts are optional |
| 20:04.31 | dondelelcaro | huh; no clue then. |
| 20:04.32 | Woet | and the hardware really isn't huge |
| 20:04.55 | dondelelcaro | I don't really work in that area... and my friends that do use all custom stuff |
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| 20:05.25 | alabd | dondelelcaro: what should be done after installing linux-patch-grsecurity2 ? |
| 20:06.04 | dondelelcaro | alabd: read the readme, like dpkg told you |
| 20:06.16 | Woet | dondelelcaro: riorey builds them, they are around 80k. it's an AMD opteron with 16 GB RAM |
| 20:06.56 | dondelelcaro | Woet: yeah, the real question is the network hardware used, though |
| 20:07.08 | alabd | dondelelcaro: read it , should we do this ? To apply automatically, set PATCH_THE_KERNEL=YES before first running of |
| 20:07.08 | alabd | make-kpkg (from package: kernel-package) and "make-kpkg clean" to remove. |
| 20:07.36 | Woet | dondelelcaro: i believe that's just a normal rj45 gigabit, the software takes care of all the attacks |
| 20:07.36 | dondelelcaro | alabd: dunno, I don't use the grsec patches, so I can't really tell you |
| 20:07.44 | dondelelcaro | Woet: could be |
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| 20:08.30 | alabd | simonlnu : what should be done after installing linux-patch-grsecurity2 ? have read it but there is written > |
| 20:08.31 | alabd | To apply automatically, set PATCH_THE_KERNEL=YES before first running of |
| 20:08.32 | alabd | make-kpkg (from package: kernel-package) and "make-kpkg clean" to remove. |
| 20:08.47 | simonlnu | !kp |
| 20:08.47 | dpkg | [kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
| 20:08.56 | simonlnu | follow the instructions |
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| 20:10.17 | saati | hi, i want to get absolutely rid of gstreamer, but half of my de seems to depend on it |
| 20:10.23 | saati | what should i do? |
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| 20:14.05 | Amarande | for that matter, why does attempting to install gthumb seem to attempt to remove all of GNOME? :S |
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| 20:16.15 | PerfDave | Amarande: Does "aptitude why" help with this? |
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| 20:23.50 | alabd | PerfDave: what package should be install to have kernel source in usr/src ? |
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| 20:27.07 | PerfDave | alabd: Why are you asking me, and why do you want kernel source? |
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| 20:41.53 | chowder | hey all. I did some googling about installing Gnome3 on wheezy but the forum posts I read are from back in March. Do I still need to enable the experimental repos or can I just install it doing a `aptitude install gnome3-session`? |
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| 20:43.23 | ompaul | chowder: if you have to ask you don't know enough yet, and here's the good news, it's not available in stable. |
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| 20:44.02 | chowder | ompaul: well I did say I was running wheezy |
| 20:44.04 | ompaul | chowder: it's breaking and fixing itself and you can't go back - if you really want to try you need to find out about testing. |
| 20:44.25 | alabd | PerfDave: have installed grsec patch package , then we should build kernel from source yes ? |
| 20:44.51 | no_gravity | What are the main differences between debian and ubuntu these days? |
| 20:45.06 | ompaul | chowder: why not do apt-cache depends gnome3-session |
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| 20:45.17 | ompaul | no_gravity: we don't ask debian questions in ubuntu channels? |
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| 20:45.32 | chowder | no_gravity: trust me, you're opening up a can of worms |
| 20:45.51 | ompaul | they built unity and lots of other stuff which some people like and others don't |
| 20:46.11 | ompaul | they have to maintain a big delta from debian |
| 20:46.32 | ompaul | there ya go the do the changes - go ask them what they changed :) |
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| 20:49.13 | chowder | ompaul: I did an `aptitude -D install gnome3-session` and saw the dependencies. It has to grab quite a bit but I would assume that aptitude would take care of that unless I'm mistaken. I'm running the testing release (wheezy). Is there anything else I need to know in regards to installing Gnome3? |
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| 20:53.23 | babilen | !tell chowder -about gnome3 |
| 20:53.55 | babilen | chowder: The page linked in that factoid summarises the status of gnome3 packages in Debian |
| 20:54.19 | chowder | thanks babilen |
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| 20:55.36 | no_gravity | Ok, so I asked the guys at #ubuntu about the difference between ubuntu and debian and they say debians repos are ancient. Is that true? |
| 20:55.45 | alabd | any opinion ? |
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| 20:56.35 | Iridos | no_gravity, the short answer is: yes. The long answer is more complicated |
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| 20:57.05 | nkuttler | no_gravity: nonsense |
| 20:57.29 | PerfDave | Well, Debian is one of the oldest extant distributions, so its repositories *are* pretty ancient. There's a lot of new software in there though. |
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| 20:58.17 | nkuttler | they probably meant "packages" and "stuff" when they said "repos" |
| 20:58.38 | Iridos | they meant the about-three-yearish release cycle for sure |
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| 20:58.57 | no_gravity | What does that mean? That the applications are older? Like an older version of "ls" then in Ubuntu? |
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| 20:59.32 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Debian does a stable release every 2 years or so. This means the software versions in Debian stable can be older than Ubuntu's. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and there are ways round it. |
| 20:59.57 | PerfDave | Newer software is not necessarily better, and is usually buggier |
| 20:59.59 | no_gravity | PerfDave: Like using the "testing" version of Debian? |
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| 21:00.25 | Iridos | no_gravity, debians stable distribution is stable because it doesn't change... no new packages are allowed in it for the 2-3 years until a new stable is made. That means no new bugs in it either, but also means that at some point the software in stable is 2-3 years old |
| 21:00.26 | PerfDave | no_gravity: That's one way, though I personally recommend just using older software. |
| 21:00.38 | nkuttler | no_gravity: or backports if you must |
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| 21:01.07 | no_gravity | nkuttler: whats that? |
| 21:01.22 | Iridos | no_gravity, well... the problem with "testing" is that it's also "just that"... it has NOT undergone extensive testing, but you're the one doing the testing if you run it... |
| 21:01.35 | Iridos | dpkg, tell no_gravity about backports |
| 21:01.41 | PerfDave | Also, "testing" changes underneath you in a way that stable doesn't, which can introduce new bugs. |
| 21:02.52 | PerfDave | I run Debian stable on all my systems - laptops, desktops, servers |
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| 21:03.55 | no_gravity | Iridos: so if i want a newer version of, say, git - what do i do to get the backport? |
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| 21:04.59 | Iridos | no_gravity, as the factoid explains... if you're lucky, someone did the backport for you and you just pull it from that repo, else you can backport it yourself (for info on that: /msg dpkg ssb) |
| 21:05.24 | Iridos | might not be trivial to backport stuff, though... if the software itself depends on lots of stuff not in stable |
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| 21:05.46 | no_gravity | Iridos: what do you mean with "that repo"? |
| 21:05.49 | Iridos | so at some point you'd pull so much stuff in as to lose most of the benefits from using stable |
| 21:07.10 | Iridos | didn't you read the factoid from dpkg? The one at http://backports.debian.org/ |
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| 21:07.38 | no_gravity | ok. thanks |
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| 21:08.38 | no_gravity | Iridos: i did a search for "gimp" and it came up with nothing. |
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| 21:11.21 | Iridos | judd, versions gimp |
| 21:11.24 | judd | Package: gimp on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.7-1; squeeze: 2.6.10-1; wheezy: 2.6.11-7; sid: 2.6.11-8 |
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| 21:12.26 | no_gravity | "sid" is the latest stable release of debian? |
| 21:12.33 | Iridos | no! |
| 21:12.48 | Iridos | squeeze is the latest stable version of debian |
| 21:12.49 | no_gravity | damn, i hate this "names insted of version numbers". i never can remember names. but i can very well remember numbers. |
| 21:13.06 | Iridos | wheezy is testing and will be the next stable and sid is and always will be unstable |
| 21:13.11 | dondelelcaro | no_gravity: we have numbers too |
| 21:13.19 | dondelelcaro | no_gravity: the names are just for ease of use |
| 21:13.38 | no_gravity | dondelelcaro: i know. |
| 21:13.40 | Iridos | for the people who can remember names but not numbers ;) |
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| 21:13.51 | no_gravity | but everyone uses the names. and i cannot relate to it. |
| 21:14.03 | no_gravity | i started using debian 2. |
| 21:14.05 | no_gravity | and then 3. |
| 21:14.13 | no_gravity | and then i switched to ubuntu 5 i think. |
| 21:14.21 | no_gravity | that was about 6 years ago. |
| 21:14.29 | no_gravity | since then it was all ubuntu. |
| 21:14.29 | daemonkeeper | 7 |
| 21:14.41 | no_gravity | now i think about going back to debian. |
| 21:14.50 | Sporty | why |
| 21:14.59 | daemonkeeper | Ubuntu releases are called after the year, hence Ubuntu 5.x was released in 2005 |
| 21:15.09 | dondelelcaro | no_gravity: well, if you ever forget, /msg dpkg release history |
| 21:15.24 | no_gravity | dondelelcaro: thanks! |
| 21:16.27 | no_gravity | ha, its funny. i remember updating the first server of my company from woody to sarge... that where the days. with CDs and all that stuff... |
| 21:17.12 | no_gravity | you guys dont celebrate xmas today? |
| 21:17.36 | Iridos | sure... by sitting here and helping other people |
| 21:17.37 | Iridos | :P |
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| 21:17.51 | Iridos | or not, however it may turn out |
| 21:17.52 | dvs | still 24th here |
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| 21:18.06 | daemonkeeper | That's when many people celebrate. |
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| 21:18.28 | dvs | sacrilege! |
| 21:18.34 | no_gravity | Iridos: awesome! |
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| 21:19.10 | nsadmin | no_gravity, I celebrate day |
| 21:19.19 | nsadmin | and will tomorrow too |
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| 21:20.22 | nsadmin | apply that recursively |
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| 21:29.28 | Iridos | and seems my system celebrates with weird behavior |
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| 21:30.52 | D[4]ni | how can i tell which process is listening at which port? |
| 21:31.53 | daemonkeeper | netstat -lntp |
| 21:32.07 | Iridos | or fuser // lsof |
| 21:32.10 | Amarande | D[4]ni: fuser -n tcp [port #] |
| 21:32.26 | D[4]ni | kthx |
| 21:32.46 | D[4]ni | so i should remove sendmail before trying to use postfix :/ |
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| 21:33.29 | D[4]ni | wait, what? aptitude says sendmail isn't installed |
| 21:33.45 | D[4]ni | netstat says: tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1667/sendmail: MTA: |
| 21:33.46 | daemonkeeper | You got exim presumably |
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| 21:34.05 | D[4]ni | also not |
| 21:34.33 | Iridos | how do you tell |
| 21:34.51 | Iridos | exim4 is the default for squeeze if you didn't specify anything else |
| 21:34.59 | Iridos | so ... if you don't know then, we surely can't |
| 21:35.02 | lasers | Anybody have experiences with preseed? I'm trying to set one up for first time. Got my local mirror up and running. |
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| 21:35.40 | PerfDave | D[4]ni: readlink /proc/1667/exe |
| 21:35.42 | D[4]ni | ah, it's sendmail |
| 21:36.00 | PerfDave | dpkg -S $(readlink /proc/1667/exe) |
| 21:36.00 | dpkg | Badgers ate my $(readlink /proc/1667/exe)! |
| 21:36.05 | D[4]ni | aptitude remove sendmail-base instead of just sendmail |
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| 22:02.27 | Steady | Do I need to use iocharset=utf8? |
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| 22:17.26 | Dev0n | hey, where does it log the last connected ips ? |
| 22:17.58 | CrazyGir | I had someone install debian remotely, for me, on a new server being deployed. I just found out the logical volume spacing is all out of whack, giving / a few hundred MB while /home has 950 _GB_. |
| 22:18.04 | simonlnu | Dev0n: context? |
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| 22:18.48 | CrazyGir | I have tried to resize with: lvresize -L-1GB /dev/lv/home but get errors due to / being full and lvresize failing to create files in /etc/lvm/archive |
| 22:19.01 | CrazyGir | any thoughts on how to work around this paradox? |
| 22:19.18 | Dev0n | well simonlnu, is there anything that logs icmp from ips ? |
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| 22:19.52 | simonlnu | iptables LOG or ULOG targets |
| 22:20.07 | nkuttler | CrazyGir: make /etc/lvm a symlink to somewhere else? |
| 22:20.30 | CrazyGir | nkuttler: indeed! |
| 22:20.39 | diabel | Hello |
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| 22:21.22 | Amarande | CrazyGir: /home should be the largest partition, normally |
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| 22:21.46 | Amarande | a few hundred MB for / is probably too small though - I think my squeeze machine uses about 5 GB on / |
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| 22:22.09 | diabel | I've got a strange problem, I've got too much logs also I've set in syslog-ng.conf that I don't want any logs to console, but I still have some logs from USB mouse ando disk error it's annoying |
| 22:22.15 | simonlnu | 2-5 GB is probably enough, depending |
| 22:22.41 | simonlnu | i managed a 300 MB / for years, but it took vigilance |
| 22:22.51 | simonlnu | actually 350 sorry |
| 22:23.04 | CrazyGir | Amarande: yes, but 300 MB in / is not reasonable when /home has 950 GB |
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| 22:23.18 | simonlnu | no kidding, heh |
| 22:24.00 | CrazyGir | turning /etc/lvm into a symlink certainly helped, and I was able to give a gig to /, taken from /home (to start). but this does not seem to have taken any effect, not according to df at least |
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| 22:24.13 | CrazyGir | I did try an lvchange --refresh to no avail |
| 22:25.27 | CrazyGir | do I need to reboot the system? |
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| 22:25.58 | CrazyGir | or does ext3 need to be extended? |
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| 22:29.01 | simonlnu | the underlying fs needs to be attended to, yes. |
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| 22:30.53 | zaltekk | hey, i'm using i3 as my window manager on sid. i have an nvidia card with the binary driver installed. i need to run i3 with --force-xinerama to make multimonitor work properly since the driver doesn't support randr. |
| 22:31.08 | simonlnu | !debian-next |
| 22:31.15 | CrazyGir | simonlnu: I don't think I've resized ext3 before.. is that even possible? |
| 22:31.27 | simonlnu | yes |
| 22:31.28 | zaltekk | i'm using slim as my login manager. i need to somehow have the --force-xinerama passed to the wm |
| 22:31.40 | CrazyGir | somehow, I'm beginning to feel like instructing my admin to use the defaults wasn't the best >< |
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| 22:32.10 | zaltekk | i tried making a simple script that just does "/usr/bin/i3 --force-xinerama $@", but it just causes X to restart when i try to login. no errors in slim's log, X's log, or the system log. |
| 22:32.17 | zaltekk | not sure how to proceed. |
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| 22:32.48 | zaltekk | CrazyGir: resize2fs |
| 22:32.53 | CrazyGir | w00t |
| 22:33.07 | zaltekk | ext2 tools work on ext3 and ext4 |
| 22:33.29 | zaltekk | anyone have suggestions? |
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| 22:36.30 | zaltekk | oh, it looks like ~/.xsession-errors has the output i was looking for |
| 22:36.32 | zaltekk | nevermind! |
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| 22:39.39 | CrazyGir | thank you folks, that worked very nicely :) |
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| 23:01.07 | ssfdre38 | hey how can i get p11-kit installed on my system |
| 23:02.09 | Iridos | judd, versions p11-kit |
| 23:02.11 | judd | Package: p11-kit on i386 -- wheezy: 0.8-2; sid: 0.9-3 |
| 23:02.27 | dvs | no squeeze? |
| 23:02.37 | Iridos | obviously new |
| 23:02.49 | ssfdre38 | i need it for squeeze for jhbuild to gnome 3.2 |
| 23:03.27 | Iridos | actually would be fun if the bot could check if a package can be backported to stable or what else would need to be backported |
| 23:04.07 | jhutchins_lt | I really wish the standard partition scheme wasn't so 1978. |
| 23:04.09 | jmarsden | Iridos: You want the bot to automatically attempt a backport and tell you whether it worked? That's ... asking a lot of the bot :) |
| 23:04.32 | kj4 | jhutchins_lt: it works? |
| 23:04.35 | jhutchins_lt | It should at least offer a single partition plus swp. |
| 23:04.39 | Iridos | jmarsden, that would be even better... just do it and give a dl link... I'll leave that as an excercise for you and your bot |
| 23:04.47 | Iridos | dpkg, tell ssfdre38 -about ssb |
| 23:05.02 | jhutchins_lt | kj4: It guarantees that a significant number of people will run out of space on one partition when they have plenty on another. |
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| 23:05.52 | jhutchins_lt | People who don't know enough to partition it for themselves are never going to make any real use of the advantages, and are sure to be gotten by the disadvantages. |
| 23:06.13 | Iridos | ssfdre38, shouldn't be problematic to backport... see pm from dpkg as to how |
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| 23:07.35 | Iridos | actually I think one or several of the bots do have some kind of function you can use for dependency checks... but I keep forgetting how that works |
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| 23:11.30 | Iridos | or can at least show the dependencies... but that can be a bit long |
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| 23:16.38 | ryan-c | I'm reporting a bug - is there any reason "will render the system unbootable without a warning message" wouldn't be critical? Conditions are fairly obscure. |
| 23:17.04 | Amarande | "will render the system unbootable without a warning message" ... wouldn't that be "grave"? |
| 23:17.47 | ryan-c | I'd think it counts as "makes the whole system break" |
| 23:17.51 | ryan-c | which is critical |
| 23:18.15 | Amarande | I can't remember now, is critical worse than grave or is grave a step worse than critical? |
| 23:18.21 | ryan-c | critical is worse |
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| 23:19.21 | ryan-c | I guess I'll file it as critical and it can be triaged down |
| 23:19.24 | ryan-c | if needed |
| 23:20.49 | abrotman | ryan-c: what is the bug? |
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| 23:21.46 | ryan-c | abrotman: if you configure a key file for your root filesystem and then update your initrd the system is rendered unbootable |
| 23:22.08 | abrotman | for an encrypted FS? |
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| 23:22.12 | ryan-c | yes |
| 23:23.01 | abrotman | repeatable? |
| 23:23.08 | ryan-c | 100% |
| 23:23.28 | abrotman | which version of Debian ? |
| 23:23.33 | ryan-c | stable |
| 23:23.52 | ryan-c | I didn't see any old bug reports on this |
| 23:23.55 | abrotman | that sounds suspicious .. we've had others do that successfully |
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| 23:24.07 | ryan-c | I'm using a keyscript |
| 23:24.22 | abrotman | oh, special case ... |
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| 23:24.48 | ryan-c | the particular setup I'm doing is a key script that decrypts a key file (cryptsetup supports this configuration in crypttab) containing a password which is used to decrypt the disk |
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| 23:26.09 | ryan-c | it looks like it doesn't support key files in general even though their presence is parsed and some sanity checking is done |
| 23:26.21 | sylar | why aren't the mozilla team putting the backports on the backports site, like a normal person? |
| 23:27.32 | ryan-c | abrotman: Is 'critical' appropriate here? |
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| 23:29.02 | sylar | "W: GPG error: http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 85A3D26506C4AE2A" |
| 23:30.37 | Amarande | oh, for that matter, you really do not want to be using mozilla Aurora right now: use beta or release |
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| 23:35.34 | abrotman | ryan-c: i might go grave becauise it's a special cnfig .. |
| 23:35.45 | abrotman | or even important |
| 23:36.08 | abrotman | either critical or important .. not grave .. sorry |
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| 23:36.25 | ryan-c | i submitted it as critical |
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| 23:36.53 | ryan-c | I'll try to post a patch within the next few days - it should be fairly simple |
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| 23:42.11 | project2501b | hey guys. what is that debian helper that can make you a custom debian image on the fly? |
| 23:42.28 | abrotman | ryan-c: yeah, "important" IMO |
| 23:42.52 | project2501b | the name of it will be usb fine, please :) |
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| 23:43.35 | abrotman | bootcd ? |
| 23:44.16 | project2501b | i think it's debian helper live or something? |
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| 23:55.51 | crosswalk | I just noticed that I have three instances of udevd running. Is this normal? |
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| 23:59.43 | yagoo | crosswalk, i guess so |
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