| 00:00.18 | Sebus | somewhat like killed |
| 00:00.18 | themill | imagines that Sebus is changing his passwd about now |
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| 00:00.26 | jordanm | Sebus: the full oops should be in dmesg or /var/log/messages |
| 00:00.27 | Sebus | themill: true |
| 00:00.53 | jordanm | Sebus: sorry, /var/log/syslog |
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| 00:01.24 | Sebus | okay, brb |
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| 00:05.25 | ParkerR | Having a weird audio problem in debian testing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T44f5Jph-w |
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| 00:09.19 | Sebus | http://wklej.org/id/670992/ |
| 00:09.27 | Sebus | hmmm |
| 00:10.04 | Sebus | It sounds to me like a hardware failure. |
| 00:10.24 | hdb2 | I need to install debian to a machine that only has access to a wireless network secured with wpa…the installer doesn't support wpa, only wep. any ideas on what I could do? |
| 00:10.32 | abrotman | ParkerR: wrong link ? |
| 00:11.09 | abrotman | ParkerR: the problem is hte country music :) |
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| 00:11.39 | abrotman | ParkerR: did you check to make sure your mixer has all levels up ? |
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| 00:12.12 | bimbim | hi |
| 00:12.18 | PerfDave | hdb2: Install from CD / DVD / Blu-ray? Read the install guide... |
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| 00:12.33 | bimbim | why mol is only in oldstable? |
| 00:12.48 | abrotman | bimbim: it's no longer maintained one would think |
| 00:12.54 | bimbim | mac-on-linux, virtualization system |
| 00:13.14 | bimbim | abrotman: oh, but sysinfo isn't maintained too sinc 2007 |
| 00:13.19 | abrotman | !mol |
| 00:13.20 | dpkg | Mac-On-Linux is virtual machine for PowerPC systems to run PowerPC operating systems (Mac OS, Mac OS X, GNU/Linux) natively. Packaged for Debian Lenny as mol (emulator), mol-modules-* / mol-modules-source (kernel module/sources) and mol-drivers-* (OS drivers). Not available for Squeeze due to Debian bug #536641, removed from Debian to resolve bug #592034. http://mac-on-linux.sf.net/ #mol on irc.freenode.net. See also <pearpc>. |
| 00:13.42 | kisisten | hi, i'm not able to playback mp3's on amarok but it seems to work with mplayer. What am I missing? |
| 00:14.19 | bimbim | abrotman: I want to be mol maintainer |
| 00:14.43 | hdb2 | PerfDave good suggestion, I just wasn't sure if the CD (disk 1?) would have the wpa packages. I'll get to reading :) |
| 00:14.46 | abrotman | bimbim: did you check that bug ? |
| 00:14.55 | bimbim | dpkg: show me details of bug 536641 |
| 00:14.56 | dpkg | bimbim: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 00:15.06 | bimbim | hmmm? |
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| 00:15.24 | bimbim | dpkg: show me details of bug 592034 |
| 00:15.25 | dpkg | bimbim: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 00:15.31 | abrotman | bimbim: read the lsat bug .. bugs.debian.org/592034 |
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| 00:15.37 | abrotman | use a web browser, not the bot |
| 00:15.44 | bimbim | ah, www |
| 00:16.50 | bimbim | fails to build -- nice, I know, next |
| 00:16.54 | ParkerR | abrotman: yeah. GThis has happened in every linux distro I have tried |
| 00:16.58 | ParkerR | *This |
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| 00:17.31 | bimbim | when gcc fails to build on my side, for example ICEs, I report a bug to upstream |
| 00:17.58 | abrotman | ParkerR: there used to be a kernel parameter for some devices |
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| 00:18.48 | ParkerR | abrotman: Weird thing is under Windows it's a Realtek card but in Linux it shows up and an Intel audio chipset |
| 00:18.50 | bimbim | "I no longer use Mac-on-Linux for myself"... nice reason to drop, isn't it |
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| 00:20.16 | jelly-home | bimbim: if noone else steps in to maintain it, it's a valid reason |
| 00:20.20 | bimbim | and *this* can be the reason to srop a package??? |
| 00:20.30 | bimbim | s/srop/drop/ |
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| 00:20.34 | jelly-home | yes |
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| 00:20.40 | bimbim | o_O |
| 00:20.42 | abrotman | bimbim: it is if the package is broken .. and in this csae, it is |
| 00:20.49 | jelly-home | packages need to have someone to take care of them |
| 00:20.57 | bimbim | I'm here |
| 00:21.06 | abrotman | bimbim: package is still broken |
| 00:21.08 | abrotman | !tell bimbim about itp |
| 00:21.10 | abrotman | good luck! |
| 00:21.20 | bimbim | !kill abrotman |
| 00:21.21 | dpkg | rips abrotman open with his teeth |
| 00:21.25 | bimbim | ;) |
| 00:21.27 | themill | bimbim: debian relies on volunteers to take care of packages. It's better that someone says "I don't have time or inclination any more" and orphans the package than it just rots without anyone realising |
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| 00:21.56 | jelly-home | or worse, it rots with everyone realizing, but nothing is done |
| 00:22.02 | bimbim | themill: thanks, captain |
| 00:22.07 | abrotman | jelly-home: that'd never happen! |
| 00:22.07 | jelly-home | *cough*wine*cough* |
| 00:22.54 | bimbim | so you do ahve a lot of x86 virt stuff, and no ppc-2-ppc |
| 00:23.02 | abrotman | ParkerR: uhm. run 'update-pciids' then run 'lspci -nn' and use paste.debian.net |
| 00:23.37 | ParkerR | Ok |
| 00:23.40 | bimbim | Downloaded daily snapshot dated 2012-01-14 15:34:18 |
| 00:24.07 | abrotman | bimbim: did you read the part about where it's broken ? |
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| 00:24.35 | bimbim | abrotman: at the line where it's not x86 maybe? |
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| 00:25.23 | em | What is the latest Debian? |
| 00:25.29 | bimbim | or where it is "MOL does require a patched kernel" |
| 00:25.38 | abrotman | em: squeeze is the current stable release |
| 00:25.44 | ParkerR | abrotman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/806862/ |
| 00:25.55 | abrotman | almost like paste.debian.net ... |
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| 00:26.22 | abrotman | ParkerR: says it's Intel .. that's not likely to lie |
| 00:26.25 | em | abrotman: oh yes. |
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| 00:26.45 | abrotman | ParkerR: only RealTek is the ethernet |
| 00:26.57 | em | abrotman: Is Debian Testing the one that will have packages that are newer or as new as the latest Ubuntu releases? |
| 00:27.06 | bimbim | sponsor? |
| 00:27.14 | ParkerR | abrotman: yeah thats what odd. Realtek HD audio manager came with Windows to manage the audio |
| 00:27.21 | abrotman | em: i have no idea what crazy stuff ubuntu is planning, ask them which version of Debian they're using this time |
| 00:27.31 | ParkerR | *Came with the laptop install |
| 00:27.33 | abrotman | ParkerR: but what does the Device Manager claim it is ? |
| 00:27.45 | ParkerR | abrotman: Last I checked Realtek |
| 00:27.50 | ParkerR | I can reboot real quick |
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| 00:27.57 | em | abrotman: Yeah im not trying to frame this with respect to Ubuntu, I just want to know what Debian to install if I want to use Debian but I also want relatively new software. |
| 00:28.19 | bimbim | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.27 | bimbim | I got "shiny new $%^#" |
| 00:28.33 | karsten | em: Your more useful question is "what is the Debian release which will have the most recent software". |
| 00:28.33 | abrotman | em: if you have to ask, Stable .. if you're going to ignore us .. use whatever you want |
| 00:28.37 | bimbim | when I came here for a 1st time |
| 00:28.43 | abrotman | !sns |
| 00:28.44 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 00:28.46 | abrotman | that? :) |
| 00:28.52 | bimbim | !ass |
| 00:28.53 | dpkg | methinks ass is what you're sitting on, the thing that you're riding, possibly the thing you're admiring. |
| 00:29.03 | karsten | em: ... though understanding what a stable release and various unstable releases offer (testing, unstable/sid, experimental) will be more useful. |
| 00:29.04 | bimbim | ancient stable shit syndorome it is |
| 00:29.18 | em | karsten: yeah thats what I think I need to do. |
| 00:29.18 | karsten | !win bimbim |
| 00:29.18 | dpkg | Congratulations, bimbim! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 00:29.26 | bimbim | wow |
| 00:29.55 | bimbim | but what wouldn't stop you trolling and pshing users to use ancient software anyways |
| 00:30.43 | karsten | em: My recommendation would be to *start* with Debian on a recent stable release. If you desperately want teh shinay of something, you can use backports, screw yourself with pinning, or, once you've got used to the package management and tools, try running "testing" or "unstable". |
| 00:30.53 | karsten | em: sid breaks toys. Don't say I never told you so. |
| 00:31.11 | zykotick9 | Why is tested/working software not respected more? |
| 00:31.28 | karsten | zykotick9: it is. |
| 00:31.46 | bimbim | zykotick9: because when it is 2 years old (like gcc 4.5, for example), it cannot be good |
| 00:31.48 | karsten | zykotick9: by people who've come to realize that they can talk until they're blue in the face about it but the kids will never learn. |
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| 00:32.33 | bimbim | fresh example: VLC 1.1.3 can't play videos from hfs+ volumes; vlc 2.0.0-rc1 does it perfectly |
| 00:32.50 | bimbim | what I did? yep! built VLC manually; thanks debian |
| 00:32.52 | themill | bimbim: perhaps you'd like to stop jabbering away and start fixing MOL? |
| 00:33.01 | bimbim | themill: ah, maybe |
| 00:33.43 | bimbim | themill: but you know, that wouldn't be for debian exclusively |
| 00:33.44 | Magog | is anyone using Gnome 2.30? |
| 00:33.49 | Magog | cause i got a question. |
| 00:33.54 | Magog | especially for those users. |
| 00:34.05 | bimbim | !ass |
| 00:34.05 | dpkg | hmm... ass is what you're sitting on, the thing that you're riding, possibly the thing you're admiring. |
| 00:34.15 | bimbim | hehehe |
| 00:34.52 | bimbim | Magog: what's wrong with old good gnome? |
| 00:35.27 | Magog | it's really good, but it has some weird points. |
| 00:35.36 | bimbim | wow, Kbuild |
| 00:35.43 | Magog | ok.. i've been asking this several times, still no solution. Most of the people probably have that thing too, they just don't know about it. |
| 00:36.09 | Magog | the thing is.... there IS something in either Gnome itself or Nautilus that causes troubles on insertion of some media. Particularly CDs |
| 00:36.36 | Magog | SOME CDs freeze up system temporarily, i have to wait about 1 minute till it gets back to normal |
| 00:36.46 | bimbim | Magog: I do have "Places" on my panel, from here I do "mount" and "unmount" |
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| 00:37.25 | bimbim | Magog: that's your CD drive, or linux the kernel |
| 00:37.42 | Magog | can't be. |
| 00:37.45 | Magog | it's on Gnome ONLY> |
| 00:37.46 | Magog | told ya |
| 00:37.49 | em | karsten: okay seems like good advice. |
| 00:37.59 | Magog | there's no such thing on Windows or xfce/lxde. |
| 00:38.10 | em | what is pinning though? |
| 00:38.21 | bimbim | can't find file config/Kconfig-ppc64 |
| 00:38.25 | Magog | though same is in KDE, and it's even worse in it, such media never opens up in KDE AT ALL. Well, i had such experience. |
| 00:38.43 | bimbim | mol guy never predicted the era of 64-bit computing |
| 00:38.46 | Magog | in Gnome it does open up, and when the system gets unfrozen finally i can browse the media without any probs. |
| 00:38.58 | Magog | just until i eject it and put it back in - boom, same story. |
| 00:39.02 | bimbim | softlinkning, as alwaqys |
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| 00:39.19 | Magog | and i repeat, not ALL disks behave like that. And i believe that something what's ON them makes it halt. |
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| 00:40.14 | bimbim | as a variant: # uname shouldn't show that the build might be done with 64-bit kernel |
| 00:40.27 | bimbim | echo 'if [ "$1" = "-r" ]; then' >>"${uname_bin}" |
| 00:40.29 | bimbim | echo " " "${uname_orig_call}" '-r | sed "s/powerpc64/powerpc/"' >>"${uname_bin}" |
| 00:40.30 | Magog | so no, it's not the drive nor the kernel. |
| 00:40.30 | bimbim | and so on |
| 00:40.40 | Magog | that'd be easy alright. But no, sorry. |
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| 00:41.16 | Magog | maybe my drive DOES have something peculiar, but other enviroments go past it just easily. In Gnome... no, sir. It gets stuck on something. |
| 00:41.42 | Magog | it READS the media, but it does something ELSE too. ANd i want to disable that thing. |
| 00:42.03 | jordanm | bimbim: if your shell is bash, you don't need sed |
| 00:42.27 | jordanm | bimbim: "${uname_orig_call/powerpc64/powerpc}" |
| 00:42.34 | bimbim | jordanm: I like sed, it's much more universal than patch |
| 00:42.50 | jordanm | bimbim: not patch either... bash |
| 00:43.19 | bimbim | jordanm: debian uses ash, tested for bashisms? |
| 00:43.40 | bimbim | dash actually |
| 00:43.59 | jordanm | bimbim: debian uses dash for /bin/sh, but you would never use /bin/sh if you were coding for bash anyways |
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| 00:44.30 | bimbim | jordanm: freeze it here, okay; no need to make sh -vs- bashisms |
| 00:45.11 | LinuxApprentice | i have 2 partitions on my HDD, how can i expand my debian partition to take up the entire hdd ? |
| 00:45.46 | bimbim | LinuxApprentice: try GParted |
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| 00:46.29 | bimbim | and on't forgt for swap = RAMx2 (i.e. if you do have 64GiB RAM, leave 128 GiB for swap) |
| 00:47.28 | jordanm | erm, Debian isn't solaris and thus you will never need 128GB of swap |
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| 00:47.38 | amphi | 128GiB seems somewhat large |
| 00:47.47 | bimbim | jordanm: speak for x86 (any bitness) only |
| 00:47.52 | LinuxApprentice | bimbim: i have dual boot and i can't do it with a partition mounted, i will have to use a livecd? |
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| 00:48.08 | LinuxApprentice | 128GB LOL!!!! |
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| 00:48.31 | bimbim | LinuxApprentice: you can did anything with your partitons while they're not mounted |
| 00:48.41 | jordanm | bimbim: and what kind of system are you running that needs to allocate 192GB of RAM? |
| 00:48.57 | bimbim | jordanm: Power A2 4 CPU x 18 cores |
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| 00:49.18 | LinuxApprentice | bimbim: wow, how much does that cpu cost? |
| 00:49.31 | LinuxApprentice | bimbim: what architecture is that? |
| 00:49.34 | jordanm | bimbim: I meant more along the lines of what software |
| 00:49.37 | bimbim | LinuxApprentice: hmmm, I suppose about $700 per a cpu |
| 00:49.41 | jordanm | LinuxApprentice: ppc |
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| 00:50.06 | LinuxApprentice | bimbim: $700 for a ppc cpu with 18 cores? |
| 00:50.23 | bimbim | I got this 4 cpu machine for free |
| 00:50.25 | abrotman | anyway ... |
| 00:50.29 | amphi | darktable would run quite well on that |
| 00:50.30 | jordanm | LinuxApprentice: I think he meant he had 4 physical CPUs |
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| 00:50.46 | bimbim | he can bootstrap 3-stage gcc in ~10-12 minutes ;) |
| 00:50.50 | LinuxApprentice | amphi: what is darktable... |
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| 00:51.42 | bimbim | ../../src/include/byteorder.h:27:31: fatal error: cpu/mol_byteorder.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:51.53 | bimbim | In file included from elfload.c:34:0: |
| 00:52.16 | bimbim | mol really needs a lot of fixing |
| 00:52.22 | themill | you don't say |
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| 00:52.54 | bimbim | and at least, patches for uname :) |
| 00:53.00 | teratoma | i have a custom deb ( for nginx ). i installed it. i dont want aptget/aptitude to ever update it ( wihtout a lot of prompting ) what do i set in /etc/apt/ to accomplish this? |
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| 00:53.03 | amphi | LinuxApprentice: apt-cache show darktable ;) |
| 00:53.19 | amphi | LinuxApprentice: a very nice program, IMHO |
| 00:53.21 | bimbim | N: Unable to locate package darktable |
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| 00:53.27 | bimbim | E: No packages found |
| 00:53.41 | LinuxApprentice | lol |
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| 00:53.55 | bimbim | maybe it is x86 or windows/wine only |
| 00:53.55 | amphi | bimbim: I'm on testing - perhaps it's not in your branch |
| 00:54.08 | bimbim | amphi: I'm on sid |
| 00:54.22 | LinuxApprentice | i'm on stable! |
| 00:54.32 | LinuxApprentice | there's no wobbling or rocking on my machine |
| 00:54.36 | LinuxApprentice | it's not allowed! |
| 00:54.38 | themill | teratoma: /msg dpkg hold; make sure you keep on top of security updates yourself. |
| 00:54.39 | amphi | bimbim: then it should be there |
| 00:54.44 | bimbim | LinuxApprentice: be my wide, I love stability :) |
| 00:54.50 | bimbim | s/wide/wife/ ;) |
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| 00:54.55 | LinuxApprentice | ? |
| 00:55.10 | LinuxApprentice | looks for birds flying over his head |
| 00:55.18 | bimbim | apt-cache search darktable >> nothing! |
| 00:55.51 | themill | bimbim: on what architecture? ppc? |
| 00:56.08 | bimbim | ppc64, I suppose, it is shown in uname -m |
| 00:56.12 | LinuxApprentice | is 'option routers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' a default gateway declaration? |
| 00:56.32 | LinuxApprentice | for dhcp server .conf file ? |
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| 00:56.51 | themill | bimbim: that's not a debian architecture, but no, darktable is not available for powerpc |
| 00:57.05 | bimbim | LinuxApprentice: I know about auth.log, I know about 172.20.1.1 |
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| 00:57.39 | bimbim | themill: ah okay, if it is x86-only, just say it |
| 00:57.52 | bimbim | (before further advertising) |
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| 00:58.02 | LinuxApprentice | bimbim: i have a DHCP/TFTP server set up for PXE booting clients but there is no net access outside the local lan for the debian installer to be able to download files.... |
| 00:58.13 | themill | bimbim: I didn't bring it up and it's also not i386 only. |
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| 00:58.26 | Vasistha | teratoma: in the aptitude ui you can press '=' to mark a package for hold |
| 00:58.54 | bimbim | themill: x86 === x86_16 + x86_32 + x86_64 + x86_128 + ... + x86_65536 + ... |
| 00:58.57 | teratoma | looks like apt-get and synaptic ignore that though |
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| 00:59.06 | LinuxApprentice | debian installer says there's no 'default route' configured... |
| 00:59.10 | teratoma | i guesss this is why people make their own repos and start pinning |
| 00:59.34 | bimbim | LinuxApprentice: can you get to the real shell |
| 00:59.44 | themill | teratoma: apt-get certainly respects holds. |
| 00:59.44 | bimbim | (at least busbos's instal shell) |
| 00:59.49 | LinuxApprentice | bimbim: yes, why? |
| 01:00.08 | bimbim | LinuxApprentice: to try ifconfig and route |
| 01:00.20 | themill | bimbim: so? |
| 01:00.39 | LinuxApprentice | bimbim: route to the router that provides internet from isp? i can't even ping that router on a client |
| 01:00.55 | LinuxApprentice | it's 192.168.1.1 |
| 01:00.57 | bimbim | LinuxApprentice: then just switch 'em on |
| 01:01.05 | LinuxApprentice | bimbim: switch what on? |
| 01:01.06 | abrotman | oh jesus |
| 01:01.13 | abrotman | bimbim: stick to your problems please :) |
| 01:01.25 | bimbim | abrotman: ?? |
| 01:01.28 | themill | or at least stop confusing others as much as you're confused yourself |
| 01:01.59 | bimbim | how many platfroms does Debian GNU/Linux support? |
| 01:02.02 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: it's saying it can't get a route from your dhcp server .. is that a problem ? |
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| 01:02.06 | abrotman | bimbim: debian.org/ports/ |
| 01:02.10 | laecheln | hey |
| 01:02.28 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: yes because i want to install from a ftp |
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| 01:03.05 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: i have no debian install media.... |
| 01:03.11 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: don't you have the netinst ? |
| 01:03.12 | bimbim | abrotman: cool |
| 01:03.39 | bimbim | abrotman: are some of them "secondary"? |
| 01:03.46 | abrotman | bimbim: read, dunno .. i'm sure it says |
| 01:03.47 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: yes that is what i am launching but it needs internet access to download the files from the debian server. ftp.debian.org |
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| 01:04.02 | bimbim | so no, okay |
| 01:04.05 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: start over, unplug your network cable, configure network later |
| 01:04.28 | bimbim | so powerpc, and especially powerpc64, support is as wide as x86[32/64] support, cool |
| 01:04.37 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: i can't do that, i am serving dhcp over eth0 to the target machine which is booting from pxe |
| 01:04.56 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: okay .. and it won't continue ? |
| 01:05.07 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: the target machine has not access outside my lan. no it won't continue |
| 01:05.11 | PerfDave | abrotman: FYI, I filed http://bugs.debian.org/656163 on mediawiki |
| 01:05.19 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: it's the netinstall |
| 01:05.28 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: you can do th einstall without network access |
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| 01:05.49 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, some network module is not loaded? |
| 01:05.54 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: i can serve the entire debian regular install iso ? |
| 01:06.03 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: to what? |
| 01:06.03 | bimbim | w/o stable net connection, say goodbye to linux |
| 01:06.11 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: no it's complaining about no default route configured |
| 01:06.15 | abrotman | bimbim: stick to your own problems, don't confuse other people |
| 01:06.27 | LinuxApprentice | i have the server which gets internet on wlan0 |
| 01:06.43 | LinuxApprentice | the server has DHCP and TFTP running on eth0 |
| 01:07.06 | LinuxApprentice | the target machine has no access through the server on wlan0 |
| 01:07.14 | bimbim | does something on your broadband domain have dhcp? |
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| 01:07.37 | LinuxApprentice | yes there is dhcp coming in on wlan0 for isp internet access |
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| 01:07.48 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: and you're botting the installation media over TFTP, or from CD ? |
| 01:07.59 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: over tftp |
| 01:08.05 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: on eth0 |
| 01:08.09 | bimbim | o_O |
| 01:08.27 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: and it will never have a route, or just not during install ? |
| 01:08.37 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: it's the netinstall, maybe i should try to FULL image |
| 01:08.40 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: just do expert mode, don't configure network |
| 01:08.58 | taylorjonl | abrotman: In case you ever wonder, you can also hide a pci device like this, 'pciback.hide=(01:00.0)(00:02.0)' |
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| 01:09.13 | abrotman | taylorjonl: that's interesting |
| 01:09.15 | taylorjonl | abrotman: That is a kernel arg in grub |
| 01:09.25 | abrotman | taylorjonl: did you get everything sorted out ? |
| 01:09.31 | taylorjonl | abrotman: I have to do this to use it in a domU so that it isn't assigned in dom0 |
| 01:10.05 | taylorjonl | abrotman: Ya, it is booting, also I have xen running now, just working on getting vga passthrough working before I install my first domU |
| 01:10.13 | teratoma | so i tried to hold nginx from being upgraded, why dpoesnt it work? http://pastebin.com/bBLAEttk |
| 01:10.39 | abrotman | teratoma: aptitude hold nginx ? |
| 01:10.51 | themill | teratoma: umm.. you're asking aptitude to ignore the hold there |
| 01:11.10 | teratoma | abrotman: i did! |
| 01:11.10 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, sounds like some variable is undefined. maybe you're close to obtaining access |
| 01:11.16 | teratoma | maybe i misunderstand what should be going on |
| 01:11.29 | teratoma | themill: i was hoping that if i 'hold' it, aptitude will refuse to upgrade it later |
| 01:11.41 | themill | teratoma: except you didn't try to upgrade it later |
| 01:11.53 | abrotman | teratoma: oh, missed that .. you're explicitly asking to install it .. it will ignore the hold AFAIK |
| 01:12.13 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: yes i think so, some config option for the dhcp server maybe. it's blocking outside access? |
| 01:12.36 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: really, use expert mode, don't configure network |
| 01:12.50 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: how do i access expert mode ? |
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| 01:13.21 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: there is a 'boot:' prompt and when i hit ENTER the installer launches |
| 01:13.22 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: when you boot the installer .. read the install guide |
| 01:13.29 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: try F1 |
| 01:13.57 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: ok i will try that when i do it later on. i will wait till everyone is sleeping so i can think, lol |
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| 01:15.46 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, how close is the following to your explicit error message?: |
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| 01:16.08 | fd-balder | "Unable to determine address of default interface. This may happen because there is no default route |
| 01:16.09 | fd-balder | configured. Without a default route, an interface must be: Network is unreachable Aug 31 20:41:49 localhost omdiscd[1290]: Unable to initialize network. Exiting." |
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| 01:16.44 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: yes that is what i get |
| 01:16.52 | fd-balder | allright... |
| 01:17.01 | wipt | how do I change the blinking rate of the cursor (tty)? |
| 01:17.29 | teratoma | how can i list what packages aron 'hold' ? |
| 01:17.46 | abrotman | teratoma: aptitude probably has a method .. look through the search terms |
| 01:17.55 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, this seems relevant: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/openMosix-HOWTO/x474.html |
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| 01:18.25 | abrotman | *headdesk* |
| 01:18.56 | themill | teratoma: dpkg --get-selections (if that's how you set them), otherwise "aptitude search ~ahold" |
| 01:19.02 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: i'm using irssi. is there a command i can use to open that link with elinks in another TTY ? |
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| 01:19.07 | ParkerR | abrotman, Windows reports "Realtek High Definition Audio" VID 10EC PID 0663 |
| 01:19.09 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, can you access bash without problems? |
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| 01:19.25 | abrotman | ParkerR: that's so bizarre .. linux sees a totlaly different device |
| 01:20.20 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: u mean when i am trying to install on the target computer? i am on the server right now |
| 01:21.02 | fd-balder | right, but the issue is the configuration of the client? |
| 01:21.11 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: yes |
| 01:21.30 | fd-balder | whichever file that contains the routing info for the client |
| 01:21.37 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: let me read over that link u gave me... |
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| 01:23.31 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, are you able to "route --help" from the client environment? |
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| 01:23.53 | teratoma | do apt-get and aptitude look at different things when deciding if a package is held or ot ? |
| 01:23.58 | teratoma | ^^^not |
| 01:24.03 | teratoma | i guess so |
| 01:24.05 | themill | teratoma: yes, unfortunately. |
| 01:25.05 | LinuxApprentice | yeah that is some relevant info |
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| 01:25.21 | LinuxApprentice | i feel confident i will get debian installed when i try at it again |
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| 01:25.51 | LinuxApprentice | could this be done over the internet? is there a PXE Internet Debian Server? |
| 01:26.13 | abrotman | for general use? |
| 01:26.23 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: yeah |
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| 01:26.30 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: for debian installs |
| 01:26.47 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: i don't know how that would work though..... |
| 01:27.04 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: really .. expert mode .. don't configure network |
| 01:27.04 | LinuxApprentice | could be done....somehow |
| 01:27.14 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: i will try that first |
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| 01:27.39 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: but i don't see how it would work if the client has no access to download the files needed to complete the install |
| 01:27.56 | LinuxApprentice | those files are on the debian ftp server not my server |
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| 01:29.18 | ParkerR | abrotman, Thanks for the help |
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| 01:30.23 | abrotman | didn't really help |
| 01:31.34 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, ive never looked at this specific subject before, checking it out in tinycore via vbox |
| 01:31.50 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: ok |
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| 01:32.27 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, again, can you "route --help" in the client environment? |
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| 01:32.52 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: from busybos? |
| 01:33.08 | LinuxApprentice | *busybox |
| 01:34.26 | fd-balder | wait |
| 01:34.52 | fd-balder | you got a folder with those files on the server anyway... |
| 01:35.13 | abrotman | expert mode .... |
| 01:36.26 | teratoma | maybe this package hold stuff is dumb and making a custom repo w/ pinning is the way to go |
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| 01:38.58 | abrotman | teratoma: why don't you want to upgrade it ? |
| 01:39.22 | teratoma | abrotman: i made a custom deb of nginx, the default debian version of nginx doesnt have some plugins i need |
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| 01:41.39 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, unless you've found the files on the server already, the debian command i think is: ip route show |
| 01:42.29 | abrotman | he doesn't have a route .. |
| 01:43.14 | LinuxApprentice | hi |
| 01:43.17 | LinuxApprentice | oops |
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| 01:43.28 | fd-balder | "Under Debian Linux add static route by editing /etc/network/interface file." |
| 01:44.03 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: in that file what is the parameter? 'static-route xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' ? |
| 01:44.04 | paijo | hello, what the packages on debian, to build web likes packages.debian.org ? |
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| 01:45.04 | paijo | or packages.ubuntu.com |
| 01:45.28 | CcSsNET | paijo: i dont understand your question |
| 01:45.30 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, im fundamentally ignorant about this, trying to look into itas we're writing |
| 01:46.11 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/configuring-static-routes-in-debian-or-red-hat-linux-systems.html |
| 01:46.20 | LinuxApprentice | ok |
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| 01:47.28 | abrotman | LinuxApprentice: does your network actually have a router? |
| 01:47.45 | abrotman | paijo: packages.debian.org is correct |
| 01:48.04 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: yes. i have one inbetween the client/server on eth0 |
| 01:48.28 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: i also have on that is serving wi-fi that i get internet from isp on wlan0 |
| 01:48.33 | LinuxApprentice | brb, have to put baby down |
| 01:48.49 | abrotman | would think it would be easier to fix the DHCP server |
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| 01:52.23 | LinuxApprentice | abrotman: that's what i am going to do |
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| 01:54.24 | LinuxApprentice | ok baby is down i am going to get start on this |
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| 01:54.35 | LinuxApprentice | i will be back. need to get off the client and onto the server |
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| 01:59.48 | paijo | CcSsNET: i mean is there package to build apt web-based interfaces likes packages.debian.org |
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| 02:00.13 | tensorpudding | how do i tell which exact debian package of kernel i'm running? |
| 02:00.36 | paijo | abrotman: i mean web-based apt frontend like packages.debian.org site ? |
| 02:00.38 | tensorpudding | i just downloaded a kernel security update, apparently 2.6.32-39squeeze1 |
| 02:00.59 | tensorpudding | but it's got the same version minor number as the kernel i'm running |
| 02:01.16 | toxicsgz | Hi everyone. I have been using linux for about 2 years now, first Ubuntu, then Mint but am looking to change OS. I would describe myself as but would like to learn more of linux and some coding... Java / Python. I would like a stable and well supported distro as I need all the help I can get. I do not work in the IT world. Do you think Debian will suit me? Silly question I know but any advice will be gratefully accepted |
| 02:01.26 | tensorpudding | which surprisingly isn't 2.6.32-39, but 2.6.32-5? |
| 02:02.15 | tensorpudding | i thought that kernel package names would follow some kind of logic |
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| 02:03.48 | CcSsNET | toxicsgz: feel free to message me |
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| 02:04.57 | karlpinc | toxicsgz: Debian stable is good for that, but then what else would we say? I'll send 2 factoids your way for newbies. |
| 02:05.13 | karlpinc | !tell toxicsgz about introduction |
| 02:05.19 | karlpinc | !tell toxicsgz about overview |
| 02:05.22 | jordanm | !tell toxicsgz about why debian |
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| 02:07.47 | toxicsgz | Thanks jordanm |
| 02:08.07 | karlpinc | toxicsgz: I would say that you don't want to run debian if you've only got a telephone dialup modem. If you've no Internet or something that's faster than dialup then you're ok. |
| 02:09.25 | karlpinc | toxicsgz: We've also got lots of packages to choose from, from what I hear more than any other distro. |
| 02:09.32 | toxicsgz | BRoadband and reasonable hardware, I have my first selfbuild now ;) |
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| 02:09.53 | karlpinc | toxicsgz: Unreasonable hardware works too, but takes more effort. |
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| 02:10.16 | ebzzry | Hi! On the average, how many days does Unstable become Testing? |
| 02:10.20 | toxicsgz | I like what I read about everything being well tested and that Debian does not release new versions all the time ;) |
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| 02:10.31 | dvs | ebzzry: 180 |
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| 02:10.54 | dvs | ebzzry: oh wait. never. That's a trick question! |
| 02:11.13 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: i did 'route add gw 192.168.1.1 eth0' on the client and it said 'resolving gateway and dropped back to the prompt but the installer is still saying there is no default route configured.... |
| 02:11.18 | simonlnu | *ding* |
| 02:11.24 | simonlnu | !prize dvs |
| 02:11.25 | dpkg | gives dvs a beer. |
| 02:11.35 | karlpinc | toxicsgz: Stable has bugs. It's just that they stay the same bugs and so the workarounds, if any, tend to work. |
| 02:11.40 | ebzzry | dvs: If it is, it wasn't my intention, I'm sorry. |
| 02:11.47 | dvs | jk |
| 02:11.58 | ebzzry | dvs: You got me. :) |
| 02:12.09 | ebzzry | dvs: But still, thanks. |
| 02:12.19 | dvs | no prob |
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| 02:14.28 | taylorjonl | Is there a way for me to check whether a specific feature is enabled in the default kernel I have installed? |
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| 02:16.11 | xwalk | Would making a VM with a minimal Debian install be a viable way of learning how to manage and configure an ftp server? |
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| 02:16.44 | Alazare619 | yes xwalk |
| 02:16.59 | Alazare619 | if you use virtualbox |
| 02:17.03 | Alazare619 | you can configure it for nat |
| 02:17.04 | Alazare619 | and route to it |
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| 02:18.05 | xwalk | Alazare619: Okay, awesome. Thank you. |
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| 02:19.07 | Alazare619 | i would do it on a windows box first tho |
| 02:19.20 | Alazare619 | xwalk on a windows box install virtual box as its easier to configure it on windows actually |
| 02:19.29 | Alazare619 | and alot more documentation for windows virtualbox |
| 02:19.40 | Alazare619 | install guest additions etc all on the windows host |
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| 02:19.50 | Alazare619 | then debian netinstall/minimal as guest os |
| 02:20.11 | Alazare619 | then ftpd and start working or apache2 and ftp |
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| 02:29.37 | knob | Good evening everyone =) |
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| 02:30.22 | LinuxApprentice | i think i fixed the default gateway problem because a default is showing up with route as the gateway but now tftp has stopped working??? |
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| 02:31.48 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, "route -e" on tinycore lists three entries... |
| 02:32.39 | fd-balder | LinuxApprentice, 127.0.0.1, 10.0.2.0 and default |
| 02:32.47 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: yes |
| 02:33.17 | LinuxApprentice | i have a link-local as well |
| 02:33.18 | rhenani | exit |
| 02:33.36 | LinuxApprentice | fd-balder: the router on wlan0 has dhcpd enabled and that is why tftp is not working |
| 02:33.52 | LinuxApprentice | it was working untill i added the gateway to interfaces |
| 02:34.05 | fd-balder | k |
| 02:34.10 | LinuxApprentice | how can i block dhcp on wlan0 from going into eth0 ? |
| 02:34.28 | LinuxApprentice | there is a dhcp collision |
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| 02:36.21 | cardamon | Sup. |
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| 02:37.19 | xwalk | Alazare619: Just saw your message. I actually don't have a Windows box available. =/ |
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| 02:40.20 | Alazare619 | ouch xwalk well you can do it under debian just is kinda a pain make sure you get the non-free version of virtualbox from there website and add yourself to the users group of virtualbox then install guest additions etc |
| 02:41.39 | xwalk | Alazare619: Alright. I've been having trouble with it lately where it will freeze once it attempts to install an OS. Never really had that problem before now. |
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| 02:44.02 | tensorpudding | god, every time i reboot this server i have to go in and manually restart the network because it never finds the dhcp lease on the first try |
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| 02:46.20 | Alazare619 | yea the the additions to the kernel that virtualbox does are buggy |
| 02:46.41 | tensorpudding | wifi is weird like that |
| 02:47.01 | cardamon | Blugh, can't figure out how to get a psuedo-transparent terminal. |
| 02:47.37 | un214 | I got a real transparent terminal by accident and had a heck of a time getting rid of it |
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| 02:48.06 | cardamon | Running XFCE with whatever the default WM is. Using terminator because I liked it best. |
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| 02:48.09 | tekzilla | i want to put some ssh users in a chroot, do i really have to build my own ssh server from the patched sources ? |
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| 02:48.39 | un214 | no, you can change their shell |
| 02:48.45 | cardamon | Tried it with composting on and compositing off in the WM. Nothing like transset or compiz or xcompmgr is installed. |
| 02:49.08 | tekzilla | un214: how would that work ? |
| 02:49.44 | un214 | the assigned shell is a suid-root program that chroots into the correct location, and rereads their real shell from /etc/passwd inside the chroot jail |
| 02:50.28 | tekzilla | un214: cool thanks |
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| 02:51.35 | cardamon | Does empathy or pidgin bug anyone constantly about untrusted certs? |
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| 02:55.15 | ParkerR | cardamon, that's just if your system time and date is off or the server doesn't provide ssl certification |
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| 02:56.35 | LinuxApprentice | if i want to add hostname 'squeezy' as the default gateway on 10.10.0.0 eth0 what is the proper syntax using route? route add Default gw squeezy 10.10.0.0 is not working |
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| 02:56.41 | cardamon | ParkerR: Well the time looks right, and it bugs me all the time about it. |
| 02:58.29 | b0gatyr | hello so I just got debian installed on a netbook, trying to get the wireless drivers to work. If i do iwconfig I see a wlan0 adapter, but if I go to network connections > wireless > dont see anything.. any clues? |
| 02:58.30 | ParkerR | cardamon, then you are connecting to the server with SSL but it isn't providing a certificate. It still works technically but I think it's not as secure. I could be wrong |
| 02:58.33 | un214 | LinuxApprentice: default wroute doesn't care about gateway |
| 02:58.49 | un214 | s/gateway/local endpoint |
| 02:58.54 | dvs | LinuxApprentice: it's it "default"? |
| 02:59.12 | un214 | so the command is route add default gw squeezy |
| 02:59.17 | dvs | s/it's/isn't/ |
| 02:59.20 | ParkerR | b0gatyr, enable network-manager to manage the wifi card http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager#Enabling_Interface_Management |
| 02:59.32 | LinuxApprentice | un214: that adds it on wlan0, which i don't want to do |
| 02:59.37 | LinuxApprentice | i have two nics |
| 02:59.40 | LinuxApprentice | wlan0 and eth0 |
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| 03:00.14 | LinuxApprentice | i'm serving dhcp and tftp on eth0 but when i boot the installer on the client it complains about no default route configured and can't access ftp.debian.org |
| 03:00.33 | ParkerR | b0gatyr, then any wireless networks found should show up |
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| 03:02.06 | un214 | you can reach squeezy locally by eth0 and wlan0? |
| 03:02.14 | b0gatyr | ParkerR: hmm, just set managed=true restarted NetworkManager but nothing yet.. |
| 03:02.28 | ParkerR | b0gatyr, did you do each as root? |
| 03:02.39 | b0gatyr | ParkerR: yup |
| 03:02.43 | ParkerR | Hmm |
| 03:02.52 | b0gatyr | if I do ifconfig I just see my eth0 and lo interfaces |
| 03:02.57 | ParkerR | b0gatyr, them I don't know. That's all I could think of. |
| 03:03.05 | ParkerR | b0gatyr, oh hmm |
| 03:03.16 | ParkerR | Then the card must not be detected |
| 03:03.16 | b0gatyr | ParkerR: could it be that I don't have the correct driver installed? |
| 03:03.29 | LinuxApprentice | un214: no squuezy is the server with the two interfaces, eth0 wlan0 |
| 03:03.34 | LinuxApprentice | brb i have to reboot |
| 03:03.38 | b0gatyr | then why does it come up when I do iwconfig? |
| 03:03.45 | b0gatyr | =\ |
| 03:03.46 | ParkerR | b0gatyr, no clue. |
| 03:03.49 | ParkerR | :/ |
| 03:03.50 | un214 | try specifying by ip address rather than hostname |
| 03:04.05 | nsadmin | b0gatyr, so those are the up ones.. to see all, ifconfig -a |
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| 03:05.39 | b0gatyr | nsadmin: ah yes I see it now |
| 03:06.34 | b0gatyr | nsadmin: but still can't see any available wireless networks |
| 03:06.37 | fd-balder | "<LinuxApprentice> fd-balder: yes i think so, some config option for the dhcp server maybe. it's blocking outside access?" - unless yet another detail in the client settings which obviously entails communication troubles beyond the lan |
| 03:07.19 | nsadmin | fd-balder, hes not done rebooting |
| 03:07.29 | fd-balder | just noticed |
| 03:07.34 | tekzilla | un214: i created a script and chmodded it 4755, but when a user executes it he cant chroot (operation not permitted) |
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| 03:08.10 | un214 | tekzilla: 1: you cannot use a script for this, 2: do you know seduid programming? |
| 03:08.48 | tekzilla | un214: ah damn! i have seen C examples googling about this |
| 03:08.54 | tekzilla | so thats what i should do ? |
| 03:09.01 | un214 | yes |
| 03:09.14 | tekzilla | alright thanks very much for the precise pointers :) |
| 03:09.30 | un214 | don't forget to call seduid(user's uid) just before exec or you will have a security hole on steroids |
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| 03:14.13 | falconlinden | I recently built/installed gcc 4.5.3 on etch. I added /usr/local/lib32 to /etc/ld.so.conf, but (probably because they have the same name), I'm getting conflicts between /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 and /usr/local/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 Anyone know how I might be able to resolve this? |
| 03:14.48 | karsten | I want to create a user with a specific UID on a Debian box. Easy way? (Fscking NFS). |
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| 03:15.24 | aguitel | how install nvidia drivers in Geoforce FX5500 ? |
| 03:15.41 | un214 | karsten: add line to /etc/passwd yourself |
| 03:15.46 | aguitel | i need nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx |
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| 03:16.09 | un214 | what file is /etc/passwd-? |
| 03:16.21 | nsadmin | a backup fi8le |
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| 03:17.22 | nsadmin | karsten, useradd |
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| 03:17.51 | JQuazar | I'm trying to read a USB drive formatted as NTFS, should this work? |
| 03:17.53 | nsadmin | which you'll have to check out |
| 03:18.02 | technologov | JQuazar, ofc, |
| 03:18.06 | nsadmin | yes, should |
| 03:18.07 | JQuazar | "Error splicing file: Input/output error" |
| 03:18.09 | sorei | Should work |
| 03:18.16 | JQuazar | the thing works for a bit then unmounts |
| 03:18.38 | JQuazar | and remounts |
| 03:19.10 | nsadmin | did you say you want to -read- a file on an ntfs fs? |
| 03:19.12 | JQuazar | Jan 16 19:15:31 lintendo12 ntfs-3g[2614]: ntfs_attr_pread error... |
| 03:19.21 | JQuazar | yes, all I'm trying to do is dump this drive so I can reformat it |
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| 03:19.54 | nsadmin | you -could- dd the whole fs... |
| 03:20.05 | JQuazar | can I do that into a folder? |
| 03:20.09 | JQuazar | on the target drive? |
| 03:20.48 | nsadmin | and, you might want to do some things before that, maybe the fs is damaged and if so you should probably use a windows tool to fix it |
| 03:21.08 | nsadmin | or maybe dd it first then let windows chomp on it |
| 03:21.45 | JQuazar | I did read up the entire thing using another OS X... no errors or issues |
| 03:21.49 | JQuazar | `man dd` |
| 03:22.34 | ParkerR | Wth? Wine skips Wheezy http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wine |
| 03:22.36 | nsadmin | are you saying you already did dd it? |
| 03:23.12 | JQuazar | nsadmin, no I don't know dd enough to use it |
| 03:23.29 | nsadmin | ParkerR, just remember wheezy is a moving target |
| 03:23.37 | aguitel | i need nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx and i am in testing |
| 03:23.50 | JQuazar | nsadmin, I see I could perhaps `dd if=/dev/thatFreeAgentDrive of=cdimage.iso` |
| 03:23.59 | JQuazar | then later I could mount the .iso?? |
| 03:24.01 | ParkerR | nsadmin, True |
| 03:24.16 | nsadmin | , versions wine |
| 03:24.17 | judd | Package: wine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; sid: 1.0.1-3.4; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
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| 03:24.32 | nsadmin | looky dat... no wheezy |
| 03:24.38 | ParkerR | Mhmm |
| 03:26.17 | overclucker | yet for some reason wheezy has winetricks |
| 03:26.40 | zykotick9 | aguitel: using "/msg judd versions nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx" is like wine, it's not there for wheezy |
| 03:26.45 | JQuazar | argh "dd: reading `/dev/sdc1': Input/output error" |
| 03:26.55 | ParkerR | overclucker, exactly |
| 03:27.20 | aguitel | zykotick9, and what i do? |
| 03:28.00 | zykotick9 | aguitel: don't know... good luck. |
| 03:28.06 | ParkerR | I guess I'll build wine |
| 03:28.19 | ParkerR | At least I have done it before. Know what to expect |
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| 03:28.32 | Sjors | Hi |
| 03:28.37 | Sjors | http://packages.debian.org/sid/wine |
| 03:28.45 | Sjors | There doesn't seem to be a Wine package on Wheezy, is this right? |
| 03:28.55 | ParkerR | Sjors, Thats what I was just asking And nope |
| 03:29.03 | nsadmin | according to judd, yes, this is right |
| 03:29.06 | ParkerR | Sjors, gonna buid it from source |
| 03:29.10 | Sjors | allright |
| 03:29.13 | ParkerR | *build |
| 03:29.25 | nsadmin | you could try ssbing it |
| 03:30.18 | nsadmin | an example of an overclucker would be a very large chicken? |
| 03:30.30 | ParkerR | nsadmin, hehe |
| 03:30.59 | overclucker | a chicken clucking at a higher frequency |
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| 03:31.55 | nsadmin | ssbing (trying to back port it) involves getting the debianized source (this is easy), grabbing the build deps (easy) and then build the package (easy too) |
| 03:32.13 | nsadmin | then you would use dpkg to install the resulting packages |
| 03:32.33 | nsadmin | let's see... |
| 03:32.42 | nsadmin | !why is wine not in testing |
| 03:32.42 | dpkg | wine is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=wine |
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| 03:34.31 | overclucker | it's all binutils fault |
| 03:34.39 | un214 | so, that's why no updates to wine in a long time |
| 03:34.39 | taylorjonl | Is there an official debian way to build a new kernel? I am missing some features... |
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| 03:34.40 | nsadmin | could be |
| 03:34.51 | nsadmin | yeah, |
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| 03:34.54 | nsadmin | !kp |
| 03:34.54 | dpkg | [kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
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| 03:35.30 | nsadmin | to do that, you can forexamkple say /msg dpkg make-kpkg |
| 03:35.43 | un214 | in this particular case, we don't care about "not available on architecture x,y,z" |
| 03:35.57 | un214 | because wine can only ever run on i386, ia64 |
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| 03:36.55 | taylorjonl | nsadmin: thanks, that is very helpful |
| 03:37.12 | nsadmin | welcome :) |
| 03:37.21 | nsadmin | I live to serve |
| 03:37.26 | nsadmin | and eat |
| 03:37.31 | nsadmin | and sleep |
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| 03:38.04 | un214 | sooner or later I'm going to need to force a new wine |
| 03:38.44 | nsadmin | and... pick up girls :) |
| 03:39.12 | un214 | sorry, not funny to me |
| 03:39.28 | un214 | anyway, I got my wine 1.0 package from debian |
| 03:39.47 | nsadmin | when did wine go to 1,0? |
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| 03:40.07 | un214 | dunno, all I know is apt-get install wine got 1.0 |
| 03:40.15 | un214 | it's somewhere past 1.3 right now |
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| 03:40.31 | ParkerR | Woo! "configure: Finished. Do 'make' to compile Wine." |
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| 03:41.15 | aguitel | i am installing kde ,how remove xfce ? |
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| 03:41.52 | Flynn015 | Hello. |
| 03:41.57 | useall | hi |
| 03:42.06 | Flynn015 | Every time I use aptitude to install or uninstall a program, I have to use this command: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin |
| 03:42.13 | Flynn015 | How can I make this permanent? |
| 03:42.26 | Flynn015 | I am using Debian with Gnome 3. |
| 03:42.29 | un214 | root's .bashrc? |
| 03:42.35 | abrotman | Flynn015: are you root ? |
| 03:42.39 | abrotman | un214: no, he sohulnd't have to |
| 03:42.40 | Flynn015 | I can be. |
| 03:42.44 | zykotick9 | Flynn015: are you using sudo or su? (if su are you using "su -")? |
| 03:42.51 | Flynn015 | I use sudo |
| 03:43.01 | un214 | then abrotman's right he shouldn't have to |
| 03:43.04 | zykotick9 | Flynn015: i'll let someone else help then ;) |
| 03:43.06 | abrotman | Flynn015: whree is your 'aptitude' |
| 03:43.13 | abrotman | un214: besides that it's in a regular user's path anyway |
| 03:43.30 | abrotman | aptitude shuld live at /usr/bin/aptitude |
| 03:43.32 | un214 | it's not in my path abrotman |
| 03:43.40 | Flynn015 | abrotman: Was that a sarcastic pun or a serious question? |
| 03:43.44 | un214 | and I didn't have to back when I used sudo |
| 03:43.46 | abrotman | un214: not sure how you've screwed up your box |
| 03:43.50 | abrotman | Flynn015: i'm being serious |
| 03:44.01 | zykotick9 | abrotman: I know sudo make some change a little while ago regarding paths, it's probably related to that |
| 03:44.10 | abrotman | IT IS IN /usr/bin/! |
| 03:44.12 | un214 | abrotman: I don't like my path containg stuff in *sbin when I'm not root |
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| 03:44.30 | abrotman | ok .. no one wants to read .. i'll leave you all to come up with crazy ideas .. have fun |
| 03:44.48 | dvs | goes nutts |
| 03:44.52 | un214 | sudo is supposed to add those directories when it invokes as root |
| 03:44.56 | dvs | nuts too |
| 03:44.58 | un214 | but I don't use sudo anymore |
| 03:44.58 | zykotick9 | abrotman: you're right, /usr/bin/aptitude, so ignore me ;) |
| 03:44.59 | Flynn015 | Aptitude is in /usr/bin/aptitude |
| 03:45.01 | abrotman | un214: READ AGAIN |
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| 03:45.20 | abrotman | Flynn015: so i'm not sure why adding those paths affects your ability to use aptitude |
| 03:45.28 | abrotman | Flynn015: dpkg -l aptitude .. which version is it ? |
| 03:45.58 | Flynn015 | 0.6.4-1.2 |
| 03:46.04 | un214 | sorry abrotman I was assuming that it broke a few layers lower down when aptitude called something expecting /sbin in its path |
| 03:46.04 | abrotman | judd: versions aptitude |
| 03:46.07 | judd | Package: aptitude on i386 -- lenny: 0.4.11.11-1~lenny2; squeeze: 0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1; sid: 0.6.4-1.2; wheezy: 0.6.4-1.2 |
| 03:46.39 | abrotman | Flynn015: so if you type `which aptitude` .. what does it return ? |
| 03:47.01 | abrotman | Flynn015: if you run `aptitude search bash` .. does it flake out? or say cmmand not found ? |
| 03:47.35 | Flynn015 | which aptitude returns /usr/bin/aptitude |
| 03:48.01 | abrotman | un214: i don't have sbin in my user's path .. but i can use aptitude to perform certain actions |
| 03:48.24 | Flynn015 | aptitude search bash shows about a dozen lines |
| 03:48.29 | abrotman | (obviously not install/uninstall) |
| 03:48.42 | abrotman | Flynn015: and if you `sudo aptitude install robotfindskitten' .. what is the error ? |
| 03:49.40 | nsadmin | adding /usr/local/sbin shouldn't have any effect on aptitude, unless that dir contains some sidey effectey stuff |
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| 03:50.22 | abrotman | if he compiled his own python or something silly |
| 03:50.32 | Flynn015 | The install is very new. |
| 03:50.42 | Flynn015 | I can name almost every change I have made. |
| 03:50.56 | abrotman | is waiting for the error |
| 03:51.17 | Flynn015 | Do you want me to install it? |
| 03:51.22 | Flynn015 | I ran it and it said "The following NEW packages will be installed: robotfindskitten The following packages will be REMOVED: xulrunner-8.0{u} " |
| 03:51.26 | abrotman | i asked for the results of that command |
| 03:51.35 | karsten | abrotman: I've heard it's out drinking with Godot. |
| 03:51.39 | Flynn015 | I didn't know if I should install it. |
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| 03:52.00 | abrotman | you said you can't install stuff without changing your path .. we'd need an error of some sort |
| 03:52.09 | abrotman | karsten: the kitten? :) |
| 03:52.16 | Flynn015 | Okay. |
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| 03:53.13 | Flynn015 | Here it is: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) A package failed to install. Trying to recover: dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable. dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable. dpkg: error: 2 expected programs not found in PATH or not executable. Note: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. |
| 03:53.14 | un214 | what a dumb game |
| 03:53.16 | Flynn015 | It repeats twice. |
| 03:53.35 | un214 | hmmm that's what I expected |
| 03:53.37 | abrotman | un214: it's a test .. you failed |
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| 03:54.06 | un214 | what does sudo echo $PATH report? |
| 03:54.14 | karsten | abrotman: Sort of like personality tests. I fail those too. |
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| 03:54.35 | abrotman | Flynn015: does /sbin/ldconfig exist ? |
| 03:54.36 | karsten | un214: Careful how you quote that. |
| 03:54.46 | abrotman | karsten: i don't even show up for those exams :) |
| 03:54.59 | Flynn015 | un214: It shows "/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games " |
| 03:55.02 | un214 | good point should be sudo echo '$PATH' |
| 03:55.10 | abrotman | Flynn015: did you play with your /etc/profile ? |
| 03:55.17 | Flynn015 | No. |
| 03:55.42 | karsten | un214: $PATH will be evaluated by the current shell. I think "sudo su -c 'echo $PATH' root" is what you want. |
| 03:55.49 | Flynn015 | I was prompted in an upgrade to change some version of sudo (probably not exactly what it said) and I opted not to. |
| 03:55.57 | Flynn015 | Would that have something to do with it? |
| 03:56.03 | un214 | probably |
| 03:56.30 | un214 | I'm quite sure it was trying to upgrade the config file /etc/sudoers, but with what I'm not sure |
| 03:56.32 | abrotman | gives up |
| 03:56.32 | Flynn015 | The only other thing that I did with sudo was that I wrote in 1 line to give my current user the sudo ability. |
| 03:56.46 | abrotman | waves at karsten |
| 03:57.10 | Flynn015 | sudo su -c 'echo $PATH' root yields something else |
| 03:57.24 | karsten | particles at abrotman |
| 03:57.25 | Flynn015 | "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin " |
| 03:57.39 | karsten | abrotman: I feel much better now that I've given up, you should enjoy it. |
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| 03:57.54 | un214 | gives up |
| 03:57.58 | karsten | hits the road. |
| 03:58.00 | karsten | Ouch. |
| 03:58.03 | Flynn015 | Well, I might be able to find a solution later. |
| 03:58.10 | Flynn015 | I have two other questions though, if you do not mind. |
| 03:58.15 | Flynn015 | Thanks for the help, by the way. |
| 03:58.18 | Flynn015 | I think these 2 are easier. |
| 03:58.28 | un214 | I don't like it when I called the right error message but can't figure out why it happens |
| 03:58.43 | un214 | any my initial suggestion was probably worthless |
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| 03:59.04 | Flynn015 | 1, I believe I upgraded to wheezy. How can I tell what version I am using? The file that shows the debian version "wheezy/sid". Does that stand for testing? |
| 03:59.45 | teratoma | yes |
| 03:59.54 | Flynn015 | Thanks. |
| 04:00.00 | nsadmin | that's just part of discovery ahd you'll find out at some point... just keep plugging, don't drop the inquiry, find logs to watch, stay open |
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| 04:02.41 | Flynn015 | Also, is there a foss flash player that has nearly the same functionality as Adobes? |
| 04:03.28 | Flynn015 | I would prefer one that if, someday down the road, I decide to mess with flash instead of Java I can rely on it as something very similar to what the average user would have. |
| 04:03.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i got an issue with winbind and sambe.. |
| 04:03.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | samba.. |
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| 04:03.47 | lwizardl | hello |
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| 04:04.02 | Flynn015 | Nevermind. |
| 04:04.05 | Flynn015 | Thanks for the help! |
| 04:04.06 | Flynn015 | Bye |
| 04:04.07 | Flynn015 | :) |
| 04:04.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got one machine that can see stuff owned by AD user and one that can not. (on the samba server share) |
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| 04:04.15 | lwizardl | I need help with finding a valid download manager application. that works with mediafire, anyone know of one ? |
| 04:04.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | so like A server can see my erin files, but B server can not. |
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| 04:04.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | they are identical except one is 32bit and one is not. |
| 04:05.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | they are up to date latest squeeze. |
| 04:05.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | willpastebin the configs. |
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| 04:13.53 | ParkerR | Woohoo. Went through and fulfilled all of wine's make dependencies. Building now. :D |
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| 04:15.37 | ParkerR | KindOne, Hehe |
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| 04:20.27 | Talon_ | judd: versions audacious |
| 04:20.28 | judd | Package: audacious on i386 -- lenny: 1.5.1-4; squeeze: 2.3-2; squeeze-backports: 2.4.4-1~bpo60+1; sid: 2.4.4-1; wheezy: 2.4.4-1 |
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| 04:20.56 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i am trying to write a script to cat the contents of my pam.d/* files and output after each cat of said file the name of the next one.. |
| 04:21.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | like common-auth ... then the conents of said file and common-account then contents like that.. |
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| 04:22.30 | nsadmin | Eryn_1983_FL, sounds like you want a loop |
| 04:22.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah i am trying to use for. |
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| 04:23.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | bah |
| 04:23.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/JBjV |
| 04:23.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | thats what i got so far.. |
| 04:23.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | ust hadn't change the $username to $var thats all |
| 04:24.19 | nsadmin | try this |
| 04:24.45 | nsadmin | for i in /etc/pam.d/* ; do echo $i ; done |
| 04:25.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 04:25.05 | nsadmin | you mighyt also try guessing what it does first |
| 04:25.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | ah |
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| 04:25.39 | cardamon | I'm annoyed that I can't get transparency or psuedotransparency to work in XFCE. |
| 04:25.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got it |
| 04:26.04 | nsadmin | I'm grateful I got two feet |
| 04:26.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | for i in /etc/pam.d/* ; do echo $i ; done |
| 04:26.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/ZHDW |
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| 04:26.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | there |
| 04:26.36 | nsadmin | what goes into i each time thru the loop? |
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| 04:30.48 | nsadmin | ok, here;s the thing... parsing the output of ls (as you're doing) will likely work in this case but it's a bad habit |
| 04:31.10 | nsadmin | instead of for i in `ls /some/dir/*` |
| 04:31.17 | nsadmin | you want instead |
| 04:31.28 | nsadmin | for i in /some/dir/* |
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| 04:31.57 | nsadmin | in the latter case you're not parsing the output of ls |
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| 04:33.54 | nsadmin | One problem with that will come when the files in /some/dir contain spaces |
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| 04:34.53 | LinuxApprentice | i finally got my client external network access but now when i select a mirror in the installer i get an error |
| 04:35.43 | LinuxApprentice | am i suppose to be using the etch installer? |
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| 04:36.17 | LinuxApprentice | i should be using /pub/debian/dists/Debian6.0.3/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer correct? because i'm not... |
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| 04:43.28 | aguitel | i have nvidia card Geoforce FX 5500 ,is nvidia-current driver working ? |
| 04:44.55 | lostson | aguitel: it should install nvidia-glx for your card |
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| 04:45.39 | aguitel | lostson, it work with my card? |
| 04:45.48 | lostson | yep |
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| 04:45.58 | tekky | How do I make ~/bin work? |
| 04:46.03 | tekky | i have to add something to .bash.rc |
| 04:46.03 | aguitel | lostson, i am in testing |
| 04:46.14 | Guest4719 | but I keep forgetting it, cause I don't use it... and google sucks for it:( |
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| 04:46.55 | somethinginteres | hi all, contemplating a move from Ubuntu to Debian. Trying to install Debian "testing". The "netstat" download option is giving me grief. I am looking for a way to download "testing" fully pre-install in as few a files as possible. Bluray ISO perhaps? |
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| 04:49.20 | taylorjonl | Does anyone know of a script or utility that will slim down my kernel config so it doesn't take a million years to build a kernel? |
| 04:49.36 | Guest4719 | taylorjonl: I do! |
| 04:49.44 | Guest4719 | rm -rf * |
| 04:49.48 | Guest4719 | slims it REALLY nice;) |
| 04:49.49 | Guest4719 | jk |
| 04:50.09 | taylorjonl | I just don't want to spend all night manually slimming it down |
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| 04:50.35 | taylorjonl | figure someone else has had this problem enough that they wrote such a utility |
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| 04:51.50 | taylorjonl | Found an interesting thread on the subject: https://lkml.org/lkml/2008/9/16/290 |
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| 04:56.20 | Guest4719 | man, I can't believe I don't know this... how do you activate ~/bin...? i forget what to add to bash.rc |
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| 04:59.33 | Rusty1 | source bin/activate if its a python vitrtualenv |
| 05:00.11 | taylorjonl | man, this kernel compile is taking a long time... |
| 05:04.37 | karlpinc | Guest4719: Frob $PATH. |
| 05:05.16 | karlpinc | somethinginteres: We recommend the stable version of debian for newbies. Also use the netinstall. |
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| 05:06.13 | karlpinc | !tell somethinginteres about testing |
| 05:06.19 | karlpinc | !tell somethinginteres about moving target |
| 05:06.52 | somethinginteres | karlpinc: roger that. |
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| 05:08.29 | karlpinc | somethinginteres: This is also useful: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware |
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| 05:09.29 | somethinginteres | karlpinc: thank you for that. Will be helpful. |
| 05:09.36 | karlpinc | !tell somethinginteres about introduction |
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| 05:17.00 | technologov | Some time ago, I have developed wonderful integration between VirtualBox and Debian preseed ! Somebody would like to help me test it ? |
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| 05:21.30 | zykotick9 | technologov: did your ML post not get any activity either? Perhaps there isn't much interest in VBox anymore? |
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| 05:32.08 | technologov | zykotick9, dunno, but I hope to improve this situation... |
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| 05:40.17 | FunkyBob | just a quick question -- how come when I install the -dev of a package that's already installed, it brings in libs [not the dev package for them] that the bin didn't need? |
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| 05:42.12 | FunkyBob | I mean, if I install "libpq-dev", and I already have libpq installed, why is it also installing libgssrpc4 libkadm5clnt-mit8 libkadm5srv-mit8 libkdb5-5 ? |
| 05:43.01 | FunkyBob | oh... excuse me... sorry... it's an ubuntu server... I'll bug them :) |
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| 05:43.14 | cyfirus | hello! |
| 05:43.20 | cyfirus | i hace a trouble!! |
| 05:43.27 | cyfirus | who can help me!! |
| 05:44.28 | technologov | !ask | cyfirus |
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| 05:45.39 | cyfirus | i have trobles with my hard disd with a virus that go off this what i can do?? |
| 05:45.50 | cyfirus | this fisic is off!!! |
| 05:46.02 | cyfirus | a sector! |
| 05:46.26 | technologov | Google clamav |
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| 05:56.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps can you help me please? I got three server here.. and I am having issues seeing files owned by my AD user erin. I am using samba winbind RID, KRB, to authenticate, which is working fine on all machines, |
| 05:56.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got files on xena, via samba server, owned by erin. that gabrielle can see but solan can't. |
| 05:57.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | there are my config files. are there any brave souls who wish to help? |
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| 05:58.13 | Some_Person | Err, which kernel do I want on my netbook? "linux-image-3.1.0-1-486", "linux-image-3.1.0-1-686-pae", "linux-image-486", or "linux-image-686-pae"? |
| 05:58.32 | technologov | linux-image-686-pae |
| 05:59.21 | Some_Person | technologov: thanks |
| 06:08.02 | zykotick9 | Some_Person: do you have 4+GB or RAM? if not, PAE will actually be slower then 486. |
| 06:08.16 | Some_Person | zykotick9: Now you tell me :-( |
| 06:08.24 | Some_Person | zykotick9: It only has 1GB |
| 06:08.45 | zykotick9 | Some_Person: non-pae would be better then, but only have a few % |
| 06:08.55 | zykotick9 | s/have/by/ |
| 06:09.19 | Some_Person | I'm 19% through and really want to get to bed soon so I don't want to start over |
| 06:09.38 | zykotick9 | Some_Person: it won't make a big difference either way |
| 06:09.40 | Some_Person | I meant to install this system earlier today but got sidetracked and forgot |
| 06:09.45 | Some_Person | Can I change it post-install? |
| 06:09.49 | zykotick9 | sure |
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| 06:12.14 | Some_Person | Why would the 486 flavor (or whatever the correct term is) be any faster? |
| 06:13.53 | zykotick9 | pae has an overhead that 486 does not. PAE allows 32bit to address more then the 3.XGB of memory. |
| 06:14.38 | dondelelcaro | Some_Person: and you actually want the 686 kernel; we don't distribute a 486 kernel anymore. |
| 06:15.14 | Some_Person | dondelelcaro: The installer gave options for 686-pae and 486 |
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| 06:19.34 | zykotick9 | !tell dondelelcaro about 686-pae |
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| 06:21.15 | Linux8889 | Anyone know the best way to encrypt my entire Harddrive with 11.10 (fluxbox with gnome applications installed)? |
| 06:21.55 | zykotick9 | Linux8889: i think you're looking for #ubuntu |
| 06:22.17 | Linux8889 | oh sorry. I thought this was an all topics channel |
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| 06:29.26 | Vasistha | how can I find out what repository a package I see on aptitude is coming from? |
| 06:29.48 | zykotick9 | Vasistha: "apt-cache policy foo" is one way |
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| 06:30.26 | Vasistha | zykotick9: nice, thank you! Do you know of any way to see it from the aptitude ui? |
| 06:30.53 | zykotick9 | Vasistha: in never use the aptitude curses interface, so i wouldn't know |
| 06:31.07 | Vasistha | heh, fair enough |
| 06:32.57 | karlpinc | Vasistha: There's an aptitude way described on backports.debian.org for checking packages from backports. |
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| 06:33.31 | karlpinc | Vasistha: But that does not use curses. |
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| 06:34.38 | dondelelcaro | zykotick9: ? |
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| 06:35.34 | zykotick9 | dondelelcaro: the 486 kernel IS what they want, mentioned in 686-pae factoid |
| 06:36.14 | dondelelcaro | zykotick9: uh... it's called 686, not 486. |
| 06:36.30 | dondelelcaro | zykotick9: we don't distribute a 486 kernel anymore. |
| 06:36.57 | karlpinc | dondelelcaro: I'm running one on stable. (There's no 386 kernel....) |
| 06:36.58 | zykotick9 | dondelelcaro: i think you should re-read that factoid |
| 06:38.21 | dondelelcaro | ah, that's right; it's in unstable that the 486 is going away |
| 06:38.40 | dondelelcaro | the libc6 we distribute doesn't support 386 anymore |
| 06:39.40 | nsadmin | the cpu is not some form of amd64? |
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| 06:41.33 | DragonSlay | how to make use of volume controls shortcuts in keyboard(xfce) |
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| 06:42.54 | nsadmin | push them? |
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| 06:43.34 | nsadmin | evidently I am confused what you mean by "make use" and so I request you make that very clear, specific and informative |
| 06:43.40 | karlpinc | zykotick9: Although the factoid's changelog entry confuses me. Why couldn't you optimize a 686 instruction set for uniprocessors and get something more efficent than 486 on a > 486 processor? |
| 06:44.20 | karlpinc | zykotick9: (I can see why nobody wants to support a large number of kernels, but that's not what the factoid says.) |
| 06:44.20 | zykotick9 | karlpinc: that's WAY beyond my knowledge level. I have NO idea. |
| 06:45.36 | DragonSlay | nsadmin, volume keys not working in xfce environment. i have to open mixer everytime to increase or decrease volume. |
| 06:46.14 | nsadmin | ok, thanks for clarifying exactly what you want |
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| 06:47.39 | evilaim | hey, how can I make my scripts in ~/bin execute without going cd ~/bin ./script? |
| 06:47.47 | evilaim | PATH=$PATH:${HOME}/bin:/usr/lib/wine/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin |
| 06:47.48 | evilaim | export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin |
| 06:47.52 | evilaim | like that? |
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| 06:48.10 | evilaim | and if so, how do I force a rehash on that, since I don't have root on this server |
| 06:48.39 | zykotick9 | evilaim: ~/bin should be in your path, if it existed when you logged in |
| 06:48.58 | nsadmin | evilaim: is /home/you/bin the same as /usr/local/bin? |
| 06:49.06 | evilaim | no |
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| 06:49.13 | evilaim | I just have ~/bin I added |
| 06:49.26 | nsadmin | ok, and the content is also not the same? |
| 06:49.46 | evilaim | nice |
| 06:49.51 | evilaim | i just had to logout and log back in;) |
| 06:49.53 | evilaim | thanks guys! |
| 06:49.57 | nsadmin | you probably want either ${HOME}/bin or /home/you/bin |
| 06:50.01 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 06:50.01 | evilaim | kk |
| 06:50.03 | nsadmin | cool |
| 06:50.12 | nsadmin | it's cause... |
| 06:50.26 | nsadmin | some shells don't understand ~ |
| 06:50.43 | nsadmin | maybe the one you're using does |
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| 06:51.19 | bambanx | how the hell i can extract this .tgz |
| 06:51.50 | nsadmin | it's a gzipped tar file (judging from the extension) |
| 06:51.59 | zykotick9 | bambanx: "tar zxvf foo.tgz" |
| 06:51.59 | nsadmin | so |
| 06:52.08 | nsadmin | you can unzip it then apply tar |
| 06:52.18 | nsadmin | or do zyk's |
| 06:52.42 | nsadmin | and the v will give lots of gobs of useful and fun output |
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| 07:10.58 | Linux8889 | Anyone know a good way to overwrite free space on the harddrive in (ext4)? |
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| 07:17.14 | dondelelcaro | Linux8889: for what purpose? |
| 07:18.29 | Linux8889 | dondelelcaro: Just trying to be extra secure..in case my laptop gets stollen...I have all my private info on here. |
| 07:18.39 | Linux8889 | dont want files I've delted to be recovered |
| 07:18.56 | Linux8889 | also one day I want to get rid of the laptop and dont want to leave any sensitve files behind. |
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| 07:19.08 | _ramo | hi |
| 07:19.13 | Linux8889 | hi |
| 07:19.24 | _ramo | how do i check if mod_deflate is installed on my apache server on debian squeeze? |
| 07:19.55 | dondelelcaro | Linux8889: then what you really want is to use LUKS or similar and encrypt your laptop |
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| 07:20.56 | dondelelcaro | _ramo: it is if you have apache2.2-common installed; a2enmod deflate; to enable it |
| 07:21.13 | Linux8889 | dondelelcaro: The entire hd? Wouldnt I have to unmount it? |
| 07:21.51 | _ramo | dondelelcaro: in my /etc/apache2/mods-avaialbe i have a mod_deflat.conf/.load file |
| 07:21.58 | albech | i see that snmpd by default is running as snmp/snmp, but that least to problems when querying several applications through the extend feature. is there a way to only have particular extend features within snmp upgraded with root privileges rather than the whole snmpd? |
| 07:22.29 | _ramo | i guess with some default configuration... but i don't konw if this is sufficient... i can't see anything with gzip in the conf |
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| 07:23.42 | jaggz-- | How can I encrypt files temporarily? Like I'm lending someone my laptop so I don't want my bank stuff accessible.. |
| 07:24.13 | jaggz-- | tar ... homedir | encrypt > homedir.encrypted; rm -rf homedir |
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| 07:25.17 | meggamine | I'm getting SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory when I try to bring my wlan0 up. |
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| 07:28.11 | meggamine | So I check dmesg: http://pastebin.com/mebd1jsx |
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| 07:30.22 | dondelelcaro | meggamine: install the right firmware-b43 package |
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| 07:39.22 | meggamine | dondelelcaro: How do I know? |
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| 07:41.36 | Harzilein | any information about the alioth status? |
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| 07:47.06 | overclucker | jaggz--: tar -c path | gzip | openssl des3 > path.tar.gz |
| 07:48.35 | overclucker | jaggz--: openssl des3 -d -in path.tar.gz | tar -zx |
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| 08:03.23 | no_gravity | Good morning! I have a button on the keyboard of my notebook that toggles between internal and external monitor. However it also toggles between 2 other states in which both monitors are on. So I always have to press it 4 times to toggle between monitors. Is there a way to make it only toggle between notbook-on+external-off and notebook-off+external-on? |
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| 08:08.07 | kryl99 | sv |
| 08:08.11 | kryl99 | Irssi 0.8.15 (20100403) - http://irssi.org/ |
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| 08:09.06 | bambanx | what good program for notes we have on debian? i dont like tomboy |
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| 08:10.33 | nsadmin | bambanx, http://packages.debian.org |
| 08:10.34 | nsadmin | and |
| 08:10.38 | nsadmin | browse |
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| 08:12.32 | Coded1 | i'm using iceweasel v9 and it works great aside from the menu options being in a size 2 font this of course makes the menus more difficult to navigate. |
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| 08:13.26 | Coded1 | I know using ctrl+mouse wheel will make the fonts of the html page loaded larger and smaller but that apparently is not linked |
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| 08:15.23 | albech | im looking for a good idea for a way to write a couple of variables somewhere in the system from a cron script every 5 min that is accessible for snmp to fetch.. since this is a recurring event would a global bash variable be better than a file somewhere on the filesystem? |
| 08:16.27 | meggamine | wilkways as she touches down in wifi land! |
| 08:16.28 | bwana147 | albech: and where would that variable be set, if not in a file? |
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| 08:16.58 | albech | bwana147, memory? |
| 08:17.34 | bwana147 | I don't think you can do that |
| 08:17.44 | DelTree | nope... |
| 08:17.58 | DelTree | you'd need a process to store it that way... |
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| 08:18.34 | bambanx | guys $HOME/.ssh. $HOME =/home/myuser? |
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| 08:19.30 | bwana147 | bambanx: a few more words would make your question clearer. |
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| 08:19.34 | DelTree | bambanx: $HOME= your home dir, as defined in /etc/passwd... but usually yes, /home/<user>... |
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| 08:20.05 | overclucker | a file in /dev/shm, or /tmp maybe? |
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| 08:20.33 | bambanx | thanks |
| 08:20.41 | bwana147 | what is /dev/shm? Shared memory? |
| 08:20.52 | overclucker | yup |
| 08:21.10 | bwana147 | I have yet to learn how that works |
| 08:21.45 | DelTree | never used /dev/shm... |
| 08:22.12 | overclucker | it's tmpfs |
| 08:22.24 | overclucker | you'll see it if you run mount |
| 08:22.54 | bwana147 | is reading http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/what-is-devshm-and-its-practical-usage.html |
| 08:22.59 | DelTree | yup... but it's probably not very portable to use that... |
| 08:23.28 | bwana147 | so basically, it's a filesystem, only in memory. |
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| 08:25.42 | overclucker | I usually use it when compiling software, but it's good for other uses as well |
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| 08:27.55 | lasers | overclucker: I was about to ask a question on compiling. Lucky for me, you said you compile stuffs. When I "make", I end with... make[1]: *** [libdvdnav] Error 2. Should I go ahead and 'make install' or do something else first? |
| 08:28.47 | lasers | I'm compiling xbmc-git on debian-squeeze (for everybody who want to know) |
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| 08:29.55 | overclucker | you'll need to resolve your errors and run make again |
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| 08:31.42 | lasers | overclucker: I have libdvdnav4 installed. Do I need that or I should install libdvdnav-dev instead? |
| 08:32.03 | bwana147 | your need libdvdnav-dev indeed |
| 08:32.19 | bwana147 | and any library-dev package that your software depends upon |
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| 08:32.40 | lasers | Okay. I installed it. Do I have to run /bootstrap and ./configure again or just "make"? That's what I always wonder. :P |
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| 08:33.35 | reavengrey | hey hey |
| 08:33.38 | overclucker | lasers: you can probably get away with just running make again |
| 08:33.43 | reavengrey | Can I have some help quickly? |
| 08:33.49 | reavengrey | I'm trying to get my root password |
| 08:33.52 | reavengrey | when I installed |
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| 08:33.58 | reavengrey | I set a passwrod for sudo or whatever |
| 08:34.02 | reavengrey | and it's worke dup until now |
| 08:34.06 | reavengrey | for all administrative things |
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| 08:34.18 | reavengrey | But the synapitic manager requires the root password |
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| 08:34.28 | reavengrey | Which I definitely would have set to tbe the same thing |
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| 08:34.33 | reavengrey | But it doesn't work...? |
| 08:34.40 | overclucker | sudo passwd root |
| 08:34.41 | lasers | I guess you forget your password. "passwd root" |
| 08:34.43 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.50 | reavengrey | Kk |
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| 08:34.59 | nsadmin | !doesn't work |
| 08:35.00 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 08:35.06 | reavengrey | kk |
| 08:35.11 | reavengrey | thanks, that worked |
| 08:35.20 | reavengrey | Hey, question then |
| 08:35.27 | DelTree | sudo synaptic ? |
| 08:35.31 | reavengrey | I had read that sudo lets you temporarily act as the root user |
| 08:35.45 | reavengrey | But why then are the root password and my sudo password different...? |
| 08:35.56 | reavengrey | Or why were they different, since I just made them the same |
| 08:36.02 | DelTree | that's the whole point of sudo... |
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| 08:36.09 | reavengrey | Explain? :O |
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| 08:36.17 | DelTree | when sudo asks for a passwd, it's the *user* passwd... |
| 08:36.37 | reavengrey | Ah, then why if you create something using 'sudo' (a file., etc) |
| 08:36.45 | reavengrey | Does it register the file as owned by root...? |
| 08:36.54 | DelTree | yes... |
| 08:37.06 | reavengrey | No, not askinfg if it does |
| 08:37.09 | reavengrey | I'm asking why it does |
| 08:37.18 | DelTree | just the sudoers file tells what you can do as root... |
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| 08:37.39 | reavengrey | That doesn't make anything clearer :| |
| 08:37.42 | DelTree | the commands you run via sudo are run as root... |
| 08:37.44 | bwana147 | because if it created the file as owned by you, you wouldn't bother prefixing your command with sudo, would you? |
| 08:37.55 | DelTree | ^_^ |
| 08:38.06 | reavengrey | Ah they are run as root, but you don't temporarily get logge din as root |
| 08:38.12 | reavengrey | I had read that that was what happened -_- |
| 08:38.24 | reavengrey | Thanks all :) |
| 08:38.24 | DelTree | not exactly... |
| 08:38.36 | DelTree | the sudo binary is suid, that's all... |
| 08:38.42 | reavengrey | OH |
| 08:38.43 | reavengrey | Oic |
| 08:38.46 | reavengrey | tricky tricky |
| 08:38.50 | reavengrey | right kk lol |
| 08:38.58 | bwana147 | sudo let you execute a command as someone else. What command, and what someone else depends on /etc/sudoers. |
| 08:39.23 | reavengrey | Ok, thanks that clarifies the whole thign then :_ |
| 08:39.32 | reavengrey | Peace out all :> |
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| 08:39.39 | DelTree | uh ? ^_- not only root ? |
| 08:39.39 | lasers | repa: "Sudo is a program designed to allow a sysadmin to give limited root privileges to users and log root activity. The basic philosophy is to give as few privileges as possible but still allow people to get their work done. |
| 08:39.51 | bwana147 | and when you run sudo, it asks you your password, just to verify that you are entitled to run said command as said someone else. |
| 08:40.36 | DelTree | you can define the "someone else" in sudoers ?! |
| 08:40.41 | bwana147 | DelTree: good point... I don't know. |
| 08:40.50 | DelTree | I thought it was just root... |
| 08:40.52 | nsadmin | !lol |
| 08:40.53 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 08:41.01 | lasers | lolol |
| 08:41.20 | bwana147 | I thought you could. Although, I don't know why you would want that. |
| 08:41.28 | lasers | overclucker, bwana147: libdvd*-dev fixed it. Thx. |
| 08:41.57 | lasers | overclucker: "make" wasn't sufficent. I had to do ./bootstrap ; ./configure too. |
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| 08:44.21 | bwana147 | DelTree: man sudoers mentions Runas_Spec |
| 08:44.35 | bwana147 | so yes, you can configure the "someone else" |
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| 08:46.09 | DelTree | bwana147: ok... I just need to figure out the use of it... mmmh... lemmy guess... something like postgres for instance ? |
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| 09:02.30 | ParkerR | I keep getting an intltool error when trying to build sbmanager. Ever reference can find online says I need to have intltool installed. Well it is and is it version 0.41.1-3 http://pastebin.com/PfMvE6VH |
| 09:02.39 | ParkerR | *Every |
| 09:02.46 | ParkerR | *I can |
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| 09:05.40 | bolt | !error message |
| 09:05.41 | dpkg | If you get an error message and find that to be very annoying, how about telling us what error message you get? Stop saying "I get an error", or try pasting the error message in google. very often, you'll find the answer you're looking for there |
| 09:06.26 | ParkerR | bolt, I have. It's in the paste. |
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| 09:06.50 | bolt | just woke up :/ |
| 09:07.04 | ParkerR | bolt, Hehe aww |
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| 09:10.49 | bolt | sbmanager doesn't seem to be part of debian though. you might have to check that configure script and see what goes wrong, or ask their support forums |
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| 09:13.27 | ParkerR | bolt, Hmm. Well it isn't part of debian. Trying to compile this from git source. And all it has is a git page. Can't find a bug tracker for it. http://cgit.sukimashita.com/sbmanager.git/ |
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| 09:16.01 | bolt | might be time to read the configure script, then. figure out what it's doing around line 13809 and perhaps add a bunch of printf's? |
| 09:16.25 | doorp | I've installed Debian on my local drive, and now I try to create a bootable USB stick to boot it. I've created a single ext3 partition, mounted it, grub-install on the device (not partition), grub-mkconfig to grub.cfg ... When I try to use the USB, I get GRUB welcome screen and it freezes there. Any idea what more should I've done? |
| 09:16.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps I got a silly ? how do i set $HOSTNAME? it seems its ser to FQDN instead of hostname |
| 09:16.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | and all other boxes are right just this one |
| 09:16.38 | bolt | it's probably another missing library, or an unexpected version of such, but that shouldn't really cause a syntax error. |
| 09:16.39 | cardamon | This would be much easier if I remembered how make a rename or regex to truncate the first five characters of every file in a directory. |
| 09:16.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | i check /etc/host.. and it was FQDN so should i reboot? |
| 09:17.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | would that fix it after i change it didnot change the var |
| 09:17.45 | doorp | Eryn_1983_FL: hostname hostname? |
| 09:17.48 | bolt | Eryn_1983_FL: check that /etc/hostname is notthe FQDN |
| 09:17.54 | bolt | Eryn_1983_FL: also check /etc/hosts |
| 09:18.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
| 09:18.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | i did it was in /etc/hostname |
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| 09:18.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | i change it but it did not make $HOSTNAME change so i rebooted we shall see if that fixes it. |
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| 09:18.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.45 | ParkerR | bolt, that's the thing. The only thing on line 13809 is "IT_PROG_INTLTOOL(0.35.0): |
| 09:19.13 | doorp | Eryn_1983_FL: What about `hostname host.com` ? |
| 09:19.16 | Sc0rian | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=74889 |
| 09:19.22 | Sc0rian | anybody here shed some light on this |
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| 09:20.53 | bolt | ParkerR: IT_PROG_INTLTOOL is likely a macro that isn't defined. the reason for this would be the wrong version of intltool, or that the script simply didn't find it where it expects to |
| 09:21.31 | bolt | ParkerR: googling for "IT_PROG_INTLTOOL" lists several posts about similar problems. there might be some help there |
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| 09:27.27 | ParkerR | bolt, ahh found out what my problem was. I had installed intltool and was just trying to rerun configure. Had to rerun autogen.sh. |
| 09:28.03 | bolt | ParkerR: gratz : |
| 09:28.05 | bolt | ) |
| 09:28.12 | bolt | damn this keyboard |
| 09:28.55 | cardamon | Guh, almost, but borked my regex, and now I have a bunch of files beginning with ". " |
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| 09:36.50 | tdn | How do I continously monitor current CPU queue length and current disk queue length? Can I do it with sysstat? |
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| 09:39.49 | vtts | tdn, sar ... 1 100000 |
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| 09:41.45 | tdn | vtts, I cannot find these measures in sar man page. Which options should I use? |
| 09:42.17 | vtts | CPU queue: sar -q |
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| 09:44.50 | vtts | Disk queue: iostat -xd |
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| 09:55.11 | project2501a | shouldn't there be a postinst hook to apt-file update? |
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| 09:57.48 | bolt | I don't think extra data should be downloaded without asking. It's quite a bunch of files in some setups. |
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| 09:58.34 | tdn | vtts, sar -q just gives me: 10:57:48 LINUX RESTART |
| 09:59.48 | project2501a | bolt: dialog prompt with falling back to tty or an environmental variable would be nice. else wise i am forced to apt-file update on one host and rsync the data across my entire cluster |
| 09:59.56 | vtts | tdn, 11:39 <vtts> tdn, sar ... 1 100000 |
| 10:00.06 | toxicsgz | Hmm! How to remove Computer, Home and Wastbasket from desktop? |
| 10:00.06 | vtts | i.e. sar -q 1 10000 |
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| 10:00.41 | bolt | toxicsgz: depends entirely on which desktop, and it might be easier to ask in the channel for that desktop :) |
| 10:01.13 | toxicsgz | xfce |
| 10:01.24 | tdn | vtts, thanks! |
| 10:01.58 | bolt | toxicsgz: #xfce should know |
| 10:02.38 | project2501a | also, would it be a good idea to have an "official" list of nagios plugins? |
| 10:02.49 | aguitel | i have nvidia card Geoforce FX 5500 ,how install nvidia driver in testing ? |
| 10:03.01 | karsten | toxicsgz: check (in a shell) if you've got a "Desktop" directory and if it contains those objects in it. Otherwise, it's probably a configuration in the xfce config tool soemwhere. |
| 10:03.04 | toxicsgz | Thx bolt, i will ask |
| 10:03.22 | bolt | toxicsgz: also, google. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/zenwalk-75/removing-icons-from-the-desktop-483414/ |
| 10:03.24 | bolt | might help |
| 10:03.36 | karsten | tdn: It's possible that sar has just restarted for you. Check to see if you have any data files under /var/log/sysstat/ |
| 10:03.58 | bolt | karsten: it is. those icons are spawned by xfce, according to quick googling. they're not actually in the desktop directory |
| 10:04.09 | karsten | tdn: If not, you need to enable sar by editing /etc/default/systat |
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| 10:04.38 | sterna | anyone with hpacucli experience? |
| 10:04.39 | karsten | bolt: OK. Try the #xfce channel if you cna't find the config. I don't generally run xfce myself though I've tried it from time to time. |
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| 10:04.45 | sterna | i can't read unassigned drives |
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| 10:04.53 | sterna | how does one fix this? |
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| 10:05.12 | bolt | karsten: I don't run it either. I was just replying to your suggestion for him to check in his desktop dir :) |
| 10:05.27 | karsten | bolt: Heh! |
| 10:05.33 | nsadmin | what is an unassigned drive? what would it be assigned to? |
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| 10:05.36 | karsten | Telephone game! |
| 10:05.49 | qrq | Why Firefox 9 linux binary is so slow on Squeeze? :D |
| 10:05.54 | karsten | sterna: Um. An unassigned drive would be one that isn't part of the array? |
| 10:06.24 | qrq | I mean its pretty sluggish |
| 10:06.30 | karsten | sterna: I assume hpacucli is a CLI interface to an HP RAID tool of some sort? |
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| 10:07.50 | karsten | sterna: ... and that's not something I'm finding as a Debian package. I'd suggest you refer to the software vendor (presumably HP) for this. |
| 10:07.50 | Andy1978 | I have found a problem in "pidgin" on wheezy. http://paste.debian.net/152548/, "sasl: sasl_state is -1, failing the mech and trying again" when /etc/hostname doesn't match the hostname in /etc/hosts. Where should I report this? pidgin, libpurple in bugs.debian or upstream? |
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| 10:09.44 | karsten | Andy1978: You can punt and assign to pidgin but note that it might be part of another package. The package maintainer can reassign the bug if necessary. |
| 10:10.37 | karsten | Andy1978: I'm suspecting it's actually a sasl library bug. But I'd still report against pidgin. |
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| 10:11.30 | babilen | qrq: How did you install it? |
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| 10:11.37 | Andy1978 | karsten: Thank you: The message: "the server doesn't support the used authentification (translated from german)" is also misleading |
| 10:12.08 | aguitel | i have nvidia card Geoforce FX 5500 ,how install nvidia driver in testing ? |
| 10:12.23 | Andy1978 | karsten: So http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=pidgin is the right place? |
| 10:12.55 | qrq | babilen http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ |
| 10:13.12 | sterna | karsten: thanks, but unfortunately, i can't reach anyone with enough experience on their support |
| 10:13.21 | sterna | but i agree |
| 10:13.36 | sterna | this is not the place |
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| 10:14.07 | babilen | qrq: Ah, ok. We can't support that so you might want to ask in #firefox -- Please note that on Debian you would typically install iceweasel and that you can get newer versions from http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 10:14.18 | tdn | karsten, greath. Thanks. |
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| 10:14.39 | qrq | babilen Ok , thanks :) |
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| 10:15.53 | karsten | Andy1978: Yes. |
| 10:15.55 | babilen | !tell aguitel -about nvidia dkms-173xx |
| 10:16.44 | karsten | sleeps |
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| 10:17.15 | aguitel | babilen, this is for suqeeze ,and for testing ? |
| 10:17.19 | babilen | aguitel: You have to adapt that slightly in that you have to remove the 2.6- from linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` (make it linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`) |
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| 10:22.08 | aguitel | babilen, it say:Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms" |
| 10:23.40 | babilen | aguitel: Ah, yes. It is not in testing right now -- You can pull it from sid though (make sure to pin accordingly or set the default release (/msg dpkg default release ; /msg dpkg tum ; /msg dpkg pinning)) and that contrib/non-free is enabled. |
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| 10:25.44 | Leoneof | hello, how to configure polkit? |
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| 10:28.30 | babilen | Leoneof: Never had to -- What are you trying to do? |
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| 10:28.59 | nsadmin | Leoneof, if a package has conffiles, they will be listed in the output of dpkg -s <packagename> |
| 10:29.05 | Leoneof | babilen: dolpin can't mount internal partition, so i can only mount as root. |
| 10:29.17 | nsadmin | one way would be to edit those files... |
| 10:29.24 | Leoneof | it seems there are a bug in dolphin *_* |
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| 10:29.46 | Leoneof | it doesn't popup a window to enter passwd |
| 10:29.59 | nsadmin | it's true. mount is a root-only operation. very limited exceptions can be defined in /etc/fstab |
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| 10:30.34 | Leoneof | nsadmin: oh, help me please :`) |
| 10:30.56 | nsadmin | with? |
| 10:31.17 | Leoneof | nsadmin: how to work in /etc/fstab |
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| 10:31.36 | babilen | Leoneof: Ah, still working on that. Yeah, it might be a bug in Dolphin and I am reluctant to install the complete KDE stack to verify this -- Have you tried pmount, usbmount and/or nautilus as suggested earlier? |
| 10:31.58 | nsadmin | there is a man page that describes its format. also, it's pretty simple, you can see what I mean if you look at the file |
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| 10:32.18 | nsadmin | the man page is shown by man 5 fstab |
| 10:32.25 | Leoneof | babilen: nautilus is ok, it asks for passwd, but haven't used pmount yet. |
| 10:33.26 | Leoneof | nsadmin: thanks |
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| 10:34.49 | nsadmin | if you can suss out what the lines in fstab mean (by looking at /etc/fstab) and then look for details in the man page, that will take you pretty far toward understanding fstab. note that the exceptions define ONE device for ONE mount point. |
| 10:34.59 | babilen | Leoneof: nautilus mounts it is as root as well (or at least acquires superuser privileges) ? It would just be nice to know if it is a dolphin specific problem or related to something else. I would be happy if you could try pmount to clarify this. |
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| 10:35.26 | nsadmin | options in fstab that might interest you (read details in man page) are noauto and user |
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| 10:36.33 | babilen | nsadmin: dolphin et al. should still be able to mount removable media, but meh :) |
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| 10:38.43 | nsadmin | so in order for dolphin to work, it would have to be setuid |
| 10:39.43 | Leoneof | babilen: nautilus asks for "Authentication is required to mount the device", it is like in gnome environment, but Dolphin doesn't. |
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| 10:40.06 | Leoneof | it seems there are a bug in dolphin or kdebase |
| 10:40.07 | babilen | Leoneof: I guess that you still have Gnome installed too -- Try mounting it there as well to clarify if this behaviour is specific to KDE or not. I would do a series of experiments like that. It might also help to check for error messages (~/.xsession-errors, run dolphin from a terminal, ...) and investigate polkit permissions. Could you paste the output of "polkit-auth" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 10:40.21 | Leoneof | nsadmin: thanks, i will try to use fstab |
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| 10:41.16 | Leoneof | babilen: ok, how to paste polkit-auth? |
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| 10:42.33 | babilen | Leoneof: Ok, so Gnome (or rather/probably /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1) does acquire root privileges as well. *If* your user is a member of the plugdev group it should have the necessary permissions to mount removable media as well. So it might still be that something else is wrong here -- Does this happen *in* gnome as well (as opposed to in KDE and running nautilus there) ? |
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| 10:42.48 | web | help-me |
| 10:42.59 | babilen | Leoneof: Copy text, open http://paste.debian.net, paste text, ???, give us the URL, PROFIT! |
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| 10:43.51 | nikolaj_basher | Is there some one who knows how to syncronize HTC phone and linux mailclient? |
| 10:43.59 | web | Do not log text mode |
| 10:44.10 | web | ? |
| 10:44.40 | web | Do not log root text mode |
| 10:45.16 | babilen | web: you can not log in as root? |
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| 10:46.27 | web | Do not log root text mode |
| 10:47.29 | ChrisH | nikolaj_basher: Assuming HTC Android and the existiance of your own Mailserver, its simple if all Mailclients use IMAP toward the local mailserver |
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| 10:49.02 | Andy1978 | karsten: Okay, I've made a bugreport and send it with email after "reportbug" was crashing twice with a segfault.... |
| 10:49.02 | nikolaj_basher | ChrisH, what about the calender? |
| 10:49.45 | ChrisH | nikolaj_basher: Use google's calender to sync all against. |
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| 10:51.18 | nikolaj_basher | ChrisH, Ahh I can syncronize my local calender with googlemail and the synkronize the phone with googlemail |
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| 10:51.34 | ChrisH | I sync my Android against my, my wife's, and my daughters google calender and also against the company Server (using ActiveSync Protocoll, even the server is not Exchange) |
| 10:52.09 | ChrisH | nikolaj_basher, that the way you should do it. All local sync I know is not yet really working as expected. |
| 10:52.53 | web | how to install nvidia driver? |
| 10:53.11 | nikolaj_basher | ChrisH, Then I need to intergrade the googlemail as my primary tool |
| 10:53.32 | PerfDave | web: Which nVidia driver? nvidia and nouveau are packaged as part of debian; nv is not free and harder to install. |
| 10:54.09 | nikolaj_basher | ChrisH, but your firm has it own server? and the ActiveSync does the work? |
| 10:54.28 | web | how to install nvidia driver? |
| 10:55.01 | sts | ChrisH: whats your company running if not exchange? |
| 10:55.19 | ChrisH | nikolaj_basher, yes we are running zimbra and that offers an ActiveSync Interface. Its working extremly well. |
| 10:55.22 | PerfDave | web: If you want people to help you, you might have to answer their questions. |
| 10:56.04 | jelly-home | PerfDave: er... "nvidia" is the non-free one. |
| 10:56.11 | nikolaj_basher | ChrisH, nice, because I have a firm I that's the solution Im looking for |
| 10:56.26 | jelly-home | !br |
| 10:56.27 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 10:56.37 | PerfDave | jelly-home: Is it? I thought nv was the propreitary one. Haven't touched it since nouveau came about, to be fair. |
| 10:56.38 | web | I want to install nvidia driver |
| 10:56.47 | web | ok |
| 10:56.56 | ChrisH | nikolaj_basher,sts http://www.zimbra.com/ |
| 10:57.06 | jelly-home | nv is the previous opensource driver |
| 10:57.24 | nikolaj_basher | ChrisH, Thanks for taking your time |
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| 10:58.04 | ukl | hello #debian. After some recent update, the boot process sometimes fails because the root device isn't there yet (/dev/disk/by-uuid is not there); after one or more reboots, things work fine... Is there some rootdelay= recommendation I didn't know of or something else? |
| 10:58.08 | ChrisH | We tested a lot of options and products, we even tested exchange. |
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| 10:58.30 | jelly-home | ChrisH: how many users/mailboxes do you manage? |
| 10:59.16 | ChrisH | jelly-home: guessed 3-400 |
| 10:59.39 | babilen | !tell web -about nvidia |
| 10:59.41 | babilen | !tell web -about nvidia dkms |
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| 10:59.47 | babilen | 8sigh* |
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| 11:10.19 | sts | oh zimbra, thanks. |
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| 11:13.17 | fredddd | Can anyone help me with a script not being executed through /etc/cron.daily? |
| 11:13.57 | ChrisH | fredddd: "standard problem" wrong environment. test the script using at now |
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| 11:15.36 | fredddd | ChrisH, could you please explain in detail? D: |
| 11:15.44 | fredddd | I do not know what you mean by testing the script using at now. |
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| 11:18.09 | ChrisH | You tested the script by manuall execution. This inherits you environment to the script execution. If the script get run by cron its haveing cron's minimalistc environemtn which might have differnt PATH setting or ... type at now (RETURN) prodivde the absolute path to yopur script Return, end with CTRL-D and get the error messages send by mail. If you put a -xv in the script header it meght get clearer. OK? |
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| 11:25.50 | fredddd | ChrisH, when modifying the timings in /etc/crontab do they take effect immediately or do I need to reload something? |
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| 11:27.28 | ChrisH | fredddd, I normally use the crontab -e command to exit crontab as this works on all UNIX systems I know. |
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| 11:28.02 | fredddd | crontab -e will update the timings I set in /etc/crontab? |
| 11:28.31 | fredddd | is confused x.x |
| 11:28.43 | PerfDave | fredddd: No, crontab edits your user crontab. /etc/crontab is the system crontab. |
| 11:28.54 | PerfDave | fredddd: Changes to /etc/crontab should be immediate. |
| 11:29.04 | fredddd | Oh I see. |
| 11:29.06 | fredddd | Thank you. |
| 11:29.10 | ChrisH | crontab -e opens an editor to edit the crontab. And crontab -e does all needed things to makt it aktice. |
| 11:29.48 | lasers | Those with Google Chrome installed, I want to know what this is for. At Gnome AutoStart, I see an entry for Google Chrome Service --> "/opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=service" |
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| 11:33.29 | Woet | lasers: I would imagine it being for auto updates and such |
| 11:33.33 | PerfDave | ChrisH: For a specific value of "the crontab". Your system has many crontabs. |
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| 11:33.52 | Woet | lasers: i don't run chrome on debian, but mac doesn't have such start up entry |
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| 11:34.57 | lasers | Woet: I see. I think it's for running in the background so it would bring up Chrome fast when you start it. |
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| 11:35.54 | technologov | Q: leader, Zach, said one differentiating feature of Debian, is that there are no "first class" and "second class" packages. Is this important feature ? |
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| 11:36.07 | ChrisH | PerfDave: my crontabs are all editable by crontab -e :) All other crontabs are system crontabs I do not care about :) |
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| 11:40.50 | fredddd | ChrisH, PerfDave, thank you, now relying on user cron instead of system cron, and putting absolute paths in the script fixed the issue! |
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| 11:45.52 | echo083 | hello, i'm using debian squeeze will it support a harddisk of 3To ? |
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| 11:52.28 | ChrisH | 3To == 3tons? |
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| 11:53.29 | doorp | I've installed Debian on my local drive, and now I try to create a bootable USB stick to boot it. I've created a single ext3 partition, mounted it, grub-install on the device (not partition), grub-mkconfig to grub.cfg ... When I try to use the USB, I get GRUB welcome screen and it freezes there. Any idea what more should I've done? |
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| 11:58.06 | Pseudoephedrine | Hi, im trying to change permissions and i keep getting this error http://paste.pound-python.org/show/16212/ |
| 11:58.21 | loop- | if i install kde through apt does it automatically install network manager |
| 11:59.34 | nkuttler | Pseudoephedrine: well you don't have enough permissions to do that.. |
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| 12:00.39 | Pseudoephedrine | nkuttler: but im running it as root also and it still isnt working |
| 12:01.19 | doorp | ... anybody know of a guide for creating a grub bootloader on a USB stick? |
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| 12:02.51 | doorp | (the guides I tried by googling - either doesn't work or in-complete) |
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| 12:03.22 | alexbligh | Does software exist (say an apache module) which provides a web-based view of the CONTENTS of a .deb (or even better, an entire repository), and let individual files be downloaded over the web? (I know it's an ar file containing 2 x tgz, and I know I could write something in perl myself, but I suspect it's been done before). |
| 12:04.04 | no_gravity | Hello! I currently have 2 Ubuntu partitions and want to change the active one to the current debian. How do I do that? Should I install it from an usb stick? |
| 12:04.16 | nkuttler | alexbligh: like packages.debian.org ? |
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| 12:05.59 | alexbligh | nkuttler, yes, the code behind that (save that I think that only contains the NAMES of the files - I don't think it allows one to download their content). These are .debs we are autobuilding, so I need the code, not the site. |
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| 12:07.17 | no_gravity | Hmmm... looks like installing from usb-stick is complicated. So i will burn a CD. Thats so 90s :) |
| 12:07.30 | PerfDave | Burn a DVD! :) |
| 12:07.39 | nkuttler | alexbligh: hrm, right, you only get a file list |
| 12:07.49 | nkuttler | no_gravity: never had any problems installing from usb |
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| 12:08.02 | no_gravity | nkuttler: i did not find a link for that on debian.org |
| 12:08.03 | nkuttler | well.. not more problems than usual :) |
| 12:08.13 | nkuttler | !ig |
| 12:08.14 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 12:08.32 | AndroUser2 | Hi there ! |
| 12:09.13 | no_gravity | nkuttler: that looks suited to someone who wants to write his doctor thesis about operating systems, not tailord towards users... |
| 12:09.24 | nkuttler | alexbligh: i'd look if pdo is powered by free software.. doesn't look like an impossible task to add links to the file list |
| 12:09.39 | no_gravity | nkuttler: i rather burn a cd then read ten thousand pages of text. |
| 12:09.41 | nkuttler | no_gravity: which part of it? |
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| 12:09.47 | nkuttler | whatever.. |
| 12:10.26 | no_gravity | nkuttler: i dont know which part describes how to intall from usb-stick. probably one of the hundreds of pages when i click on "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" |
| 12:10.26 | nkuttler | ctrl-f usb is soo hard |
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| 12:10.47 | alexbligh | nkuttler, any idea what the software running p.d.o is called? |
| 12:10.54 | nkuttler | alexbligh: no |
| 12:10.58 | no_gravity | nkuttler: i searched for usb. but did not find any info on how to install from usb. |
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| 12:11.42 | no_gravity | it says "Many Debian boxes need their floppy and/or CD-ROM drives only for setting up the system and for rescue purposes. If you operate some servers, you will probably already have thought about omitting those drives and using an USB memory stick for installing and (when necessary) for recovering the system. This is also useful for small systems which have no room for unnecessary drives. " |
| 12:11.49 | no_gravity | ok, now what? where do i click? |
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| 12:12.27 | nkuttler | no_gravity: on which page are you? |
| 12:12.38 | no_gravity | nkuttler: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/ch02s04.html.en#id584282 |
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| 12:13.01 | no_gravity | nkuttler: on the link you gave me, i clicked on "Installation Guide for 32-bit PC (i386)" |
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| 12:13.12 | Woet | no_gravity: you are reading a guide, what are you looking for? |
| 12:13.13 | nkuttler | no_gravity: search http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/index.html.en for usb and read the whole chapter |
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| 12:13.30 | no_gravity | Woet: i want to install debian. preferably from an usb stick. |
| 12:13.30 | nkuttler | it's really the same as with other media, get installer, put it on media, boot media |
| 12:13.52 | no_gravity | nkuttler: with "installer" you mean the iso? it will boot from usb? |
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| 12:14.10 | nkuttler | iirc it does.. but don't quote me on that |
| 12:14.18 | no_gravity | nkuttler: how did you find the page you gave me? |
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| 12:14.38 | nkuttler | no_gravity: it's one click away from |
| 12:14.39 | nkuttler | !ig |
| 12:14.40 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 12:15.01 | arjun_ | Hi, how do I play encrypted .wmv files? |
| 12:15.31 | no_gravity | nkuttler: i dont understand you. on that page i dont see a link to the page you gave me later. |
| 12:16.01 | nkuttler | it's the very first link ... |
| 12:16.29 | no_gravity | nkuttler: strange, you are right! |
| 12:16.51 | no_gravity | ok, so it says just cat the iso to the usb drive. i will try that... |
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| 12:18.12 | no_gravity | i never knew you can just "cat some.iso > /dev/some_stick" and it will result in a bootable usb stick. |
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| 12:23.16 | no_gravity | cat /home/user/debian... > /dev/sdb |
| 12:23.20 | no_gravity | lets see what happens... |
| 12:24.58 | no_gravity | ok ... rebooooooooooting! |
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| 12:28.21 | jontheniceguy | Hi all. I have a somewhat odd request, and I'm hoping someone here can help me. I'm using a shared web host that's based on Debian. Because it's a shared host, I can't just install any-old-package, but the hoster has agreed that I can compile anything I want in my home directory. I'm trying to install Festival (for the text2wave application), which Debian has in APT. Festival needs the speech-tools package as well. |
| 12:29.16 | PerfDave | !based on |
| 12:29.16 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 12:29.35 | jontheniceguy | Apologies PerfDave - it is Debian. |
| 12:29.52 | PerfDave | jontheniceguy: Forgive me if I don't believe youl |
| 12:30.02 | jontheniceguy | No worries. The hosting provider is Dreamhost. |
| 12:30.12 | DelTree | jontheniceguy: looking for apt-get source ? |
| 12:30.23 | jontheniceguy | DelTree: Sounds like it. |
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| 12:34.35 | jontheniceguy | Once I've done apt-get source - will that have pre-patched the sources based on the modifications that Debian makes to the sources? |
| 12:35.42 | jontheniceguy | PerfDave - what would I need to get to "prove" it is debian? |
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| 12:36.11 | jontheniceguy | Bearing in mind, I don't have root, and didn't do the install myself. |
| 12:36.36 | negge | mozilla.debian.net seems to be down |
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| 12:42.56 | no_gravity | I installed Debian 6.0 and rebooted. Now im in a shell. Is that normal? I expected to end up in Gnome. |
| 12:43.12 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Did you install Gnome? |
| 12:43.49 | no_gravity | PerfDave: i have no idea. i put the iso on an usb stick, rebooted and it did its magic without asking me for gnome. |
| 12:44.25 | blip2 | no_gravity: it'll have probably asked what parts of the system you wanted to install? |
| 12:44.27 | PerfDave | no_gravity: The installer asks if you'd like to install a desktop environment. If you didn't do it during install, you'll have to do it now :) |
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| 12:44.47 | no_gravity | blip2: yes. i just pressed return on that screen and it continued. |
| 12:45.05 | blip2 | what did you have selected? |
| 12:45.05 | PerfDave | !tell no_gravity -about install gnome |
| 12:45.05 | no_gravity | PerfDave: "apt-get install gnome"? |
| 12:45.10 | no_gravity | blip2: i did not change any setting. |
| 12:45.16 | PerfDave | no_gravity: See what the bot just told you |
| 12:46.39 | lasers | blip2: He didn't select anything. He left everything empty. |
| 12:46.52 | no_gravity | PerfDave: hmm.. that gives me a ton of options. and i have no clue what the difference of them is. gnome-session is the leanest? then maybe i start with that. |
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| 12:47.06 | tyr | hi, i reinstalled debian, only kept the old partitioning. then i tried to get sound working with the usb soundcard and copied the old asound.conf which worked fine before. even after rebooting, i don't get any sound. maybe someone can give me a quick hint, last time it took me at least one day to get it working. |
| 12:47.14 | no_gravity | lasers: all options where unchecked as a default? |
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| 12:47.50 | lasers | no_gravity: By default, nothing is selected except base iirc. When you had the option to select gnome/kde/xfce/etc, you scrolled down to gnome but you didn't mark it. |
| 12:48.12 | no_gravity | lasers: i did not scroll or anything. i just hit return. |
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| 12:49.00 | lasers | no_gravity: Gotcha. If you want Gnome, http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 12:49.02 | PerfDave | no_gravity: In that case, Gnome didn't get installed :) |
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| 12:49.15 | no_gravity | "apt-get install gnome-session" results in an error that it cannot find that package. i guess thats because the stick is not in anymore and it has no way to connect to the network. |
| 12:50.10 | PerfDave | no_gravity: If it can't get to a package repository containing that package, then it can't install that package, yes. |
| 12:50.21 | no_gravity | PerfDave: what can i do now? |
| 12:50.34 | no_gravity | i tried putting in the stick again. still "apt-get install gnome-session" fails. |
| 12:50.53 | PerfDave | no_gravity: If you want to install Gnome, you'll have to provide the packages and tell your system where they are. |
| 12:51.04 | no_gravity | PerfDave: i have no clue how to do that. |
| 12:51.27 | no_gravity | i quit debian in 2006 and switched to ubuntu. i havent thought about these things for years. |
| 12:52.02 | no_gravity | everytime i installed a new box, i ended up in gnome and there was a network applet which i used to connect to the net. |
| 12:52.59 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Then the simplest answer might just be to reinstall, and tell the installer to install Gnome. |
| 12:53.22 | lasers | no_gravity: Take a look at sources.list |
| 12:53.42 | PerfDave | !tell no_gravity -about sources |
| 12:53.44 | no_gravity | PerfDave: ok. and then i will have the network applet? if i have to configure the network in a shell, i could as well do it right now. |
| 12:54.11 | PerfDave | no_gravity: No idea, I've never installed Gnome on a Debian box because I find it hateful :) |
| 12:54.17 | blip2 | gnome usually installs with gnome-nm |
| 12:54.30 | lasers | PerfDave: Ha! Then what are you using right now? |
| 12:54.50 | blip2 | I'm using CrunchBang |
| 12:54.53 | PerfDave | lasers: Windows 7 |
| 12:54.59 | lasers | That's even worse. :P |
| 12:55.05 | no_gravity | lasers: there is only one uncommented line in that file and its like "deb CDROM[....". What can I do with it? |
| 12:55.13 | PerfDave | I'd rather use Windows 7 than Gnome. But this is my work PC anyway :) |
| 12:55.29 | no_gravity | PerfDave: how do you connect to a wifi? |
| 12:55.47 | lasers | no_gravity: Is that everything in the file? |
| 12:56.04 | no_gravity | lasers: there are a lot of other lines. all starting with "#" |
| 12:56.12 | PerfDave | no_gravity: On my home system, I use KDE, which has its own network manager applet |
| 12:56.13 | lasers | blip2: TIL Crunchbang went Debian. |
| 12:56.55 | no_gravity | lasers: do you think i can switch CDROM to the usb-stick, so i can install stuff from the stick? |
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| 12:57.18 | lasers | !paste | no_gravity |
| 12:57.19 | dpkg | | no_gravity: put your output on http://paste.debian.net/ so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 12:57.28 | lasers | no_gravity: Paste /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 12:58.42 | PerfDave | lasers: If no_gravity has no network connection, might be hard to pastebin stuff :) |
| 12:59.14 | lasers | PerfDave: Ah I didn't know that. Maybe he can type everything out. :P |
| 12:59.22 | no_gravity | lasers: i could write it on a piece of paper and mail it to you. |
| 12:59.25 | lasers | giggles |
| 12:59.39 | no_gravity | i changed the like to this: deb /mnt/tmp/ ... |
| 12:59.55 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Probably best to mount the USB stick and use it as a file repository as per man sources.list |
| 13:00.05 | no_gravity | and mounted the stick with this: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tmp |
| 13:00.24 | no_gravity | now i will do this, right? apt-get update |
| 13:01.11 | no_gravity | "malformed line in sources.lst" hmmm... |
| 13:01.20 | PerfDave | no_gravity: man sources.list |
| 13:01.49 | PerfDave | You're barking up the right tree, but putting random stuff in your sources.list file and expecting it to work isn't going to help anybody :) |
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| 13:03.02 | lasers | no_gravity: I suppose PerfDave's simplest solution would be best way to go if you really don't want to read !ig |
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| 13:03.31 | PerfDave | (at least, I think you're barking up the right tree, I've never tried installing via USB before) |
| 13:03.44 | nsadmin | no_gravity, so you might want deb file:/mnt/tmp ... |
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| 13:04.13 | no_gravity | nsadmin: "deb file:/mnt/tmp/ squeeze main"? |
| 13:04.34 | nsadmin | does /mnt/tmp/dists exist? |
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| 13:05.11 | no_gravity | nsadmin: yes |
| 13:05.39 | nsadmin | ok, so yeah, /mnt/tmp looks like a mirror |
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| 13:05.50 | no_gravity | it seems to accept "deb file:/mnt/tmp/ squeeze main" but it still cannot find "gnome-session" |
| 13:05.50 | tyr | ok, i tried "speaker-test -c 6 -Dhw:S51 -s1 -t sine -f 500" and i hear that sine very well. so the necessary modules seem to be loaded. but i still have no sound on my system if for example i play an mp3 |
| 13:06.08 | no_gravity | nsadmin: /mnt/tmp/ is my usb stick where i put the iso. |
| 13:06.50 | no_gravity | tyr: how do you try to play the mp3? |
| 13:06.54 | nsadmin | ok, so maybe gnome-session isn't a package name, altho that -file- could be in another package |
| 13:07.09 | no_gravity | nsadmin: what do i install then to get gnome? |
| 13:07.20 | nsadmin | try gnome |
| 13:07.26 | no_gravity | nsadmin: ok, lets try that... |
| 13:07.39 | tyr | when i double click in nautilus, totem movie player starts |
| 13:07.45 | no_gravity | nsadmin: cant find that either |
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| 13:08.01 | no_gravity | tyr: and it plays the mp3 but you dont hear anything? |
| 13:08.02 | nsadmin | can you set up networking? |
| 13:08.14 | lasers | nsadmin: gnome-session-bin (to be precise) but there also are gnome-session |
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| 13:08.32 | tyr | yep. i think alsa doesn't recognize the asound.conf but i'm only guessing |
| 13:08.37 | no_gravity | nsadmin: i dont know. i have a wifi router. how would i set it up? im used to the gnome network applet. |
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| 13:08.55 | blubberdiblub | maybe not on his usb stick, if it's too small an iso image |
| 13:08.58 | nsadmin | is the router up? |
| 13:09.09 | no_gravity | nsadmin: yes |
| 13:09.20 | nsadmin | does this machine have wireless? |
| 13:09.37 | no_gravity | nsadmin: yes, it works when i boot ubuntu. |
| 13:09.37 | PerfDave | no_gravity: TBH for the time being it's probably easier just to use a network cable until you can get your n ice clicky GUI :) |
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| 13:10.00 | no_gravity | PerfDave: that, or just reinstall |
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| 13:10.13 | lasers | If you're in CLI, you want wireless-tools. Then you'll have to configure wireless (password, stuffs). Just follow PerfDave's simplest solution. :P |
| 13:10.15 | nsadmin | oh ok... how does the wireless hardware connect to the machine? pci slot? usb? |
| 13:10.28 | no_gravity | tyr: alsamixer is a nice programm i sometimes use to get sound and mic and stuff working. |
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| 13:10.40 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Possib ly, but if your USB stick doesn't actually include the Gnome packages, then the installer isn't going to be able to install them. |
| 13:10.51 | nsadmin | actually before we go there, look at the output of ifconfig -a |
| 13:11.05 | nsadmin | you will see paragraphs and interface names... |
| 13:11.08 | no_gravity | PerfDave: the gnome stick includes what the iso includes. i just clicked on "download debian 6.0" on debian.org |
| 13:11.15 | nsadmin | could you show a list of interface names? |
| 13:11.19 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Which ISO? |
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| 13:11.39 | nsadmin | what's the exact name of the iso file? |
| 13:11.50 | PerfDave | There's dozens of ISOs for installing Debian :) |
| 13:12.09 | no_gravity | PerfDave: when i went to debian.org it showed me a "download debian 6.0" on the upper right of the page. i used that. |
| 13:12.16 | nsadmin | howbout we start with the one he has :} |
| 13:12.39 | nsadmin | no_gravity, did you get a file when you did that? |
| 13:13.00 | no_gravity | nsadmin: yes. an iso. then i did "cat the_iso.iso > /dev/sdb" |
| 13:13.22 | nsadmin | what is the full name of the_iso.iso? |
| 13:13.24 | tyr | no_gravity, when i pick the usb soundcard, alsamixer says "This sound device does not have any controls." |
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| 13:13.47 | no_gravity | tyr: im not an expert for this. so i think i cannot help you any further. |
| 13:14.11 | no_gravity | nsadmin: i dont know. i wiped the partition i downloaded it to with debian now. |
| 13:14.22 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 13:14.29 | no_gravity | nsadmin: ifconfig -a shows me eth0 and lo. |
| 13:14.37 | PerfDave | no_gravity: That link is a network installer, wich contains very little software and certainly not Gnome. |
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| 13:14.52 | tyr | no_gravity, im not an expert either. i was very lucky when i somehow got it working before |
| 13:14.57 | nsadmin | ok, so a driver module for the wireless might be present but is not inserted |
| 13:15.01 | blubberdiblub | tyr, so you have more than one device for audio output and the one you want to output the sound on is not the first one? then you just may have to tell your application to use the other sound card |
| 13:15.17 | PerfDave | no_gravity: So you won't be able to get Gnome off your USB stick, which means you'll probably have to get it from the network - easiest way is just to use a network cable as a temporary measure. |
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| 13:15.37 | barna_ | can I install gnome 2.x on weezy? |
| 13:15.39 | no_gravity | PerfDave: during installation it tried to set up network via dhcp but failed. then i tried manual network setup and it asked me for an ip, which i found strange and cancelled. |
| 13:16.00 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Did you have a network cable connected at the time? |
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| 13:16.15 | no_gravity | PerfDave: i think i will download some other iso to the usb-stick and reinstall. |
| 13:16.31 | PerfDave | no_gravity: There should be a GNOME CD image |
| 13:16.32 | tyr | yes, there are two, the one on my laptop and the external usb soundcard. i configured asound.conf to use the second one |
| 13:16.40 | PerfDave | barna_: If you're running a non-stable distro, you should be able to find the answer to that yourself. |
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| 13:17.07 | lasers | no_gravity: http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
| 13:17.25 | abrotman | barna_: gnome2.x is dead upstream, get used to gnome3 or find another WM |
| 13:17.43 | blubberdiblub | tyr, so the sound-test command line you gave earlier also works without the -Dhw:S51 option? |
| 13:18.05 | no_gravity | or maybe i will try the network installer again and try to set up my network during install... |
| 13:18.10 | no_gravity | ...yes, i will do that now. |
| 13:18.22 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Just connect a network cable, that should do it ;) |
| 13:18.34 | no_gravity | PerfDave: i hate network cables |
| 13:18.50 | no_gravity | makes a coffee and then reinstalls... |
| 13:18.53 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Since the installer didn't see your wireless card, it's probably the easiest temporary solution |
| 13:19.03 | PerfDave | I love network cables. They're fast and reliable :) |
| 13:19.11 | nsadmin | hate/love is irrelevent :) have/not have is relebent :) |
| 13:19.12 | barna_ | ok, tanks |
| 13:19.19 | nsadmin | guns |
| 13:19.36 | PerfDave | suspects that having a link from the debian.org homepage directly to a netinst ISO is a terrible, terrible idea. |
| 13:20.02 | nevyn | why? |
| 13:20.06 | no_gravity | PerfDave: this is also about the future of my it infrastructure. if debian needs cables to install it, i will not go that route. |
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| 13:20.32 | nevyn | no_gravity: it doesn't |
| 13:20.35 | tyr | blubberdiblub, i didn't check that, but my first test just starting some video on youtube got my laptop speakers making noise. so i think both soundcards are ready to work |
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| 13:20.41 | nsadmin | doesn't necessarily need it, but it might be easier |
| 13:20.42 | nevyn | no_gravity: what wifi do you have? |
| 13:20.59 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Debian doesn't need cables to install it. Installing a netinst image on a machine whose wireless adapter isn't pciked up by the installer for whatever reason will need some other way of getting packages, and a cable is the easiest way to achieve that. |
| 13:20.59 | nsadmin | try lspci -nn |
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| 13:21.30 | tyr | here's the asound.conf: http://pastebin.com/2L4F0VdW |
| 13:21.31 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Also, the Debian installer doesn't support WPA currently, so if your wifi network requires that, then you're screwed anyway. |
| 13:21.40 | nevyn | is betting intel |
| 13:22.04 | nsadmin | so it could be that the hardware you have chosen may or may not be detected and set up properly during install |
| 13:22.21 | no_gravity | nevyn, PerfDave: how do you know the network adapter did not get recognised by the installer? |
| 13:22.35 | nevyn | because if it were recognised it'd just work. |
| 13:22.36 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Becuase you didn't mention being asked for wireless network details |
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| 13:22.47 | no_gravity | wow |
| 13:22.50 | tyr | at the bottom there is the line with pcm "hw:S51" |
| 13:22.54 | no_gravity | that sucks then |
| 13:22.58 | blubberdiblub | tyr, i'm not into asound.conf-stuff, sorry. i usually go without it to save me that headache. i just configure my application programs to use the correct card |
| 13:23.02 | no_gravity | how about "debian testing"? |
| 13:23.06 | nevyn | no_gravity: but the most likely reason is missing firmware |
| 13:23.12 | nevyn | no_gravity: which testing will not help with |
| 13:23.27 | abrotman | !firmware image |
| 13:23.27 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Squeeze are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. http://deb.li/3tGse |
| 13:23.31 | PerfDave | no_gravity: OK, I've told you several ways to help you out of the situation you find yourself in, and none of them are good enough for you, so I'm giving up now. |
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| 13:23.36 | nsadmin | no_gravity, it's 5 am for me... and sometimes you forget to answer some questions when the answers could help you, and there's been no real motion for about a half hour... so, have a good nite and good luck... I'm crashing |
| 13:24.16 | abrotman | finally ... |
| 13:24.17 | no_gravity | So when I get an iso with gnome on it, will gnome recognise the wifi? |
| 13:24.26 | nsadmin | :P |
| 13:24.37 | nevyn | no_gravity: no. |
| 13:24.39 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Gnome doesn't recofnise wifi. The kernel recognises wifi. |
| 13:24.44 | abrotman | no_gravity: if the driver is setup correctly .. (such as installilng required firmwrae) |
| 13:24.47 | no_gravity | ok |
| 13:25.00 | lasers | no_gravity: You used Ubuntu. Did wifi works fine without err... whats it called? hardware drivers stuffs? |
| 13:25.01 | nsadmin | or more correctly, the wifi driver |
| 13:25.03 | nevyn | no_gravity: it'd be eassier to answer if you confirmed/denied what your wifi is? |
| 13:25.12 | no_gravity | lasers: it worked out of the box |
| 13:25.13 | abrotman | nsadmin: bed? |
| 13:25.13 | PerfDave | no_gravity: And if your wifi is supported by the kernel, and has the firmware (which often isn't shipped with Debian because it's not free), then Gnome will see it. |
| 13:25.27 | no_gravity | nevyn: how do i find out what my wifi is? |
| 13:25.27 | PerfDave | lasers: Ubuntu installs a bunch of non-free stuff by default |
| 13:25.40 | nevyn | no_gravity: run lspci |
| 13:25.53 | no_gravity | isnt debian the same kernel as ubuntu? why does ubuntu support the wifi and debian not? |
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| 13:25.56 | nevyn | no_gravity: if you'rein windows ... network adapters? properties? |
| 13:25.57 | diverdude | Hello. if i do cp -r somedir/* someotherdir/ all hidden files (.something files) are not copied. Why? And how do i copy those as well? |
| 13:26.12 | nevyn | no_gravity: debian and ubuntu use quite different configurations of the linux kernel |
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| 13:26.24 | ChrisH | diverdude: use tar |
| 13:26.28 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Because Ubuntu ships non-free firmware by default, and some wireless adappters (possibly including yours, we don't know yet) don't have free kernel support |
| 13:26.33 | nevyn | no_gravity: and particularly debian remove and seperated out all binary blobs from the kernel. |
| 13:26.37 | abrotman | i don't see why it matters .. they're just different .. |
| 13:26.39 | no_gravity | nevyn: i dont have windows. |
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| 13:26.46 | nevyn | no_gravity: run lspci |
| 13:26.50 | lasers | PerfDave: Are you sure? I'm looking at this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers |
| 13:27.02 | abrotman | lasers: those are different |
| 13:27.08 | diverdude | ChrisH, tar? but i just want to copy. not compress |
| 13:27.14 | no_gravity | nevyn: lspci gives me a ton of stuff |
| 13:27.22 | nevyn | no_gravity: you're looking for something like this: |
| 13:27.22 | nevyn | 10:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) |
| 13:27.29 | PerfDave | lasers: Pretty sure yes |
| 13:27.31 | nsadmin | no_gravity, look thru it |
| 13:27.35 | nevyn | in particular |
| 13:27.36 | lasers | abrotman: We're talking about non-free firmware? |
| 13:27.39 | PerfDave | lasers: That page is about graphics drivers, not firmware. |
| 13:27.41 | ksk | diverdude: how about cp -r somedir/ someotherdir/ ? |
| 13:27.48 | nevyn | Network Controller or Wireless network or similar |
| 13:27.49 | ChrisH | diverdude: tar does not compress.... cd somedir ; tar cf - . | (cd someotherdir/ ; tar xf - ) |
| 13:27.58 | blubberdiblub | diverdude, "cd somedir && cp -r . ../someotherdir/" would work, for instance. "*" is expanded by the shell, and doesn't include dot-files |
| 13:27.59 | ChrisH | diverdude: or use rsync |
| 13:27.59 | lasers | PerfDave: Gotcha. |
| 13:28.01 | no_gravity | nevyn: "lspci | grep -i network" gives me something with intel. |
| 13:28.12 | nevyn | can you paste the one line here? |
| 13:28.16 | nevyn | just that line! |
| 13:28.17 | diverdude | blubberdiblub, but there are subdirs as well |
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| 13:28.25 | PerfDave | (now, personally i don't have a problem with non-free firmware, but obviously the Debian Project feels differently) |
| 13:28.25 | no_gravity | nevyn: i can write it on a piece of paper and mail it to you. |
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| 13:28.42 | blubberdiblub | diverdude, it will copy them with the command i gave |
| 13:28.45 | abrotman | lasers: there are 'blobs' and non-redistributable drivers .. anyway .. ask #ubuntu if you want more info |
| 13:28.53 | nevyn | I suspect that's not going to meet your required timeframe. |
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| 13:28.56 | no_gravity | nevyn: the computer im trying to install debian on is not this one. |
| 13:29.07 | Sc0rian | hello all.. how can i convert a OS drive to raid 1 on debian.. has anyone got a guide? |
| 13:29.13 | nevyn | right can you type at least the key words and any numbers? |
| 13:29.32 | no_gravity | honestly, i think debian is not the right thing for me. |
| 13:29.39 | nevyn | fair enough |
| 13:29.45 | no_gravity | i think i did all (and more) that can be expected from a user. |
| 13:30.03 | lasers | nevyn: afaik he messed up his installation by not including gnome in first place. no point-n-click so he's taking the hard route by not doing a reinstall. |
| 13:30.11 | ChrisH | Sc0rian: if you put this into google, many will show up |
| 13:30.13 | abrotman | Sc0rian: i'd suspect there are tons of things linked on google |
| 13:30.13 | nsadmin | like answer questions that a helper has asked? |
| 13:30.18 | nevyn | no_gravity: I think plugging your machine into the network isn't a onerous requirement |
| 13:30.19 | PerfDave | no_gravity: If you're not prepared to read the install guide or answer questions when asking for support, and generally make life more difficult for yourself, you're probably right. |
| 13:30.22 | nsadmin | careful with assumptions |
| 13:30.24 | grimeton | Sc0rian: get the new drive, create a raid1 on it with one missing drive, copy everything from the old drive to the new one with raid, make it bootable, boot from it, then add the old drive to the new raidset |
| 13:30.32 | no_gravity | As i understand it, the sticking point is this: Debians installer doesnt support WPA. So im fucked. |
| 13:30.46 | nevyn | umm it does. |
| 13:30.47 | grimeton | Sc0rian: depending on the mirror implementation one can just create a raid on top of the two drives and hope for the best, but the first solution is the better one |
| 13:30.59 | PerfDave | lasers: No, no_gravity used a netinstall ISO which didn't even include Gnome in the first place. |
| 13:31.01 | Sc0rian | okey |
| 13:31.04 | no_gravity | nevyn: after plugging a network cable in, what would i do then? |
| 13:31.15 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Install Gnome |
| 13:31.18 | Sc0rian | i found one guide but i'd like to follow a squeeze one to make sure i get it right |
| 13:31.20 | grimeton | Sc0rian: and you have to rebuilt the initrd images so that the raid modules are available on boot |
| 13:31.21 | PerfDave | And get your pointy-clicky wifi applet |
| 13:31.24 | nevyn | and firmware-nonfree-intelvarient |
| 13:31.31 | lasers | no_gravity: Debian Installer. You only need to use cable for half hour at most. |
| 13:31.31 | PerfDave | no_gravity: And any binary firmware you need to make your wifi work |
| 13:31.33 | no_gravity | PerfDave: you said gnome will not give me WPA support. |
| 13:31.34 | nsadmin | no_gravity, or get your wireless working first |
| 13:31.44 | nevyn | PerfDave: the bigger problem would appear to be the lack of wireless firmware afaict |
| 13:31.46 | diverdude | ChrisH, blubberdiblub its easy to just do cp -r somedir/. someotherdir/ |
| 13:31.52 | lasers | PerfDave: I use netinstall. Installed Gnome just fine. With cable. |
| 13:31.53 | grimeton | Sc0rian: i don't know a real howto or a guide or something - just ever did it that way |
| 13:31.56 | abrotman | how about if ONE person helps him ? |
| 13:32.05 | Sc0rian | okey |
| 13:32.07 | PerfDave | no_gravity: You didn't read everything I said there, did you? |
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| 13:32.13 | Sc0rian | thank you |
| 13:32.39 | blubberdiblub | diverdude, yeah, that would work as well |
| 13:32.40 | PerfDave | no_gravity: You've done something a bit silly, and you're trying to get out of it in an unnecessarily complex way. |
| 13:32.46 | nevyn | not really |
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| 13:33.05 | PerfDave | no_gravity: Go download the Gnome install ISO, and the non-free firmware packages, and do a fresh install. |
| 13:33.05 | nevyn | I'm not seeing evidence of this. I can see some frustration which is understandable. |
| 13:33.15 | no_gravity | PerfDave: if i did something silly, i can just start over. i really would like to learn whats the proper way of installing debian. |
| 13:33.30 | PerfDave | no_gravity: The proper way starts with reading the installation manual. Did you do that? |
| 13:33.34 | colo-work | is anyone in here running squeeze with a custom 3.2 kernel? |
| 13:33.49 | nsadmin | no_gravity, so this is degenerating fairly quickly... if you want, you can cooperate with helpers who are asking you questions... since you say you've already got linux installed (ubuntu) maybe that will serve your purpose |
| 13:33.52 | nevyn | sid with 3.2-rt10-freakypatches. |
| 13:34.03 | no_gravity | PerfDave: if you really have to read that hundreds of pages to install debian, its not for me. |
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| 13:34.31 | PerfDave | no_gravity: There's nothing wrong with using the installer you used, but it helps to have a network cable handy. If you refuse to use a different install image, or a freakin' network cable, you're just wasting your own time and ours. |
| 13:34.33 | grimeton | no_gravity: fire up the installer and read .. shouldn't be a problem at all |
| 13:34.38 | abrotman | no_gravity: please stop for a moment .. you've got five people helping you .. it gets confusing .. stop, breathe .. pick one person to work with, ignore the others |
| 13:34.43 | PerfDave | no_gravity: I'm happy for Debian not to be for you :) |
| 13:34.57 | nevyn | PerfDave: chill. |
| 13:35.04 | PerfDave | nevyn: Good idea |
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| 13:35.27 | abrotman | no_gravity: are you willing to use a network cable to complete the install ? |
| 13:35.44 | no_gravity | abrotman: what would be the alternatives? |
| 13:35.49 | nsadmin | or better: we're happy for you to make your decision either way. If you decide on debian, and you want help here, you will need to get a lot more cooperative... |
| 13:35.56 | abrotman | nsadmin: go the fuck to bed |
| 13:36.00 | Sc0rian | http://iiordanov.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-convert-your-single-drive-linux.html grimeton is this pretty much what you were saying? |
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| 13:36.11 | abrotman | no_gravity: that is your best alternative .. honestly it is |
| 13:36.33 | Sc0rian | instead of live cd i was just going to write init 1 |
| 13:36.36 | grimeton | Sc0rian: let me check |
| 13:36.40 | no_gravity | abrotman: its not so much about this one install. if there is a better way to start from scratch, i can do that. |
| 13:36.42 | abrotman | no_gravity: it eliminates wireless firmware and WPA from the equation |
| 13:37.01 | abrotman | (which are both problematic in the Debian installer for various reasons) |
| 13:37.13 | grimeton | Sc0rian: yes, but this guy boots from an extra medium and the drive is not mounted. |
| 13:37.24 | nsadmin | if it's not about this install, then either go for the easiest way, and ANSWER QUESTIONS POSED TO YOU, or... not. |
| 13:37.28 | grimeton | Sc0rian: you can do this with rsync or tar while the box is running |
| 13:37.33 | grimeton | Sc0rian: without dd'ing stuff |
| 13:37.36 | no_gravity | abrotman: ok, im going to look for a network cable... |
| 13:37.37 | abrotman | nsadmin: please stop, you're not helping |
| 13:37.42 | abrotman | no_gravity: thank you |
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| 13:38.05 | Sc0rian | yeah, im just worried about the box not booting again.. want to make sure the boot images are on the raid too |
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| 13:38.22 | nsadmin | how do you know? I got him to get off his ass and get the cable |
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| 13:38.40 | abrotman | nsadmin: take a timeout .. you can't see past yourself |
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| 13:38.46 | grimeton | Sc0rian: it's important to write your bootloader to the new drive too |
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| 13:38.59 | abrotman | nsadmin: you clearly weren't helping, the guy was confused about what was going on |
| 13:39.03 | grimeton | Sc0rian: if you're running grub, just install it to the second drive after you copied anything |
| 13:39.09 | grimeton | s/anything/everything/ |
| 13:39.46 | abrotman | shouldn't take five people t explain why a network cable is easier for him .. shouldn't be berating the guy either .. |
| 13:39.51 | no_gravity | comes back, covered in dust. with a good old grey cat-5 cable... |
| 13:39.59 | no_gravity | i plugged it in :) |
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| 13:40.43 | abrotman | no_gravity: can you restart the installer? |
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| 13:41.17 | abrotman | no_gravity: that'll probably be easier than trying to get it jump onto the wired network |
| 13:41.25 | no_gravity | abrotman: ok |
| 13:41.58 | no_gravity | abrotman: one question, just to be sure: there is no more current version of debian that would work with wifi? not even "testing"? |
| 13:42.14 | abrotman | no_gravity: in short, you're going to install teh base system, reboot, install teh firmware for your wireless, then install your GUI |
| 13:42.41 | abrotman | no_gravity: no, they all have the same method of working with firmware .. the wired is the easiest method |
| 13:42.51 | no_gravity | ok |
| 13:43.03 | no_gravity | im on the installers home screen now. choose "install"? |
| 13:43.09 | abrotman | sure |
| 13:45.08 | no_gravity | its asking for non-free firmware and if i want to load it from removable media. i say no, right? |
| 13:45.31 | abrotman | right, we'll do that later |
| 13:45.47 | no_gravity | ok. it wants "ipw2200-bss.fw" by the way. |
| 13:45.59 | abrotman | we'll do that later |
| 13:46.15 | no_gravity | "network autoconfiguration has succeeded". interesting. |
| 13:46.28 | abrotman | that's your wired network |
| 13:46.40 | no_gravity | it asks me for a host name and a domain name... thats weird... |
| 13:46.49 | abrotman | that's fine .. you can give it one |
| 13:46.52 | no_gravity | i leave the domain name empty. |
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| 13:47.43 | abrotman | no_gravity: probably put osmething in .. like "localdomain" |
| 13:47.53 | no_gravity | yes, i put something in. |
| 13:48.09 | abrotman | good |
| 13:48.28 | no_gravity | it asks me for my timezone. |
| 13:48.37 | no_gravity | is that "central" for germany? |
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| 13:49.09 | no_gravity | i choose "central" |
| 13:49.43 | no_gravity | is "ext3" a good choice for /? |
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| 13:50.03 | petemc | yes |
| 13:50.03 | justinas | Good morning! |
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| 13:50.45 | technologov | . |
| 13:51.03 | justinas | I want to install debian testing, but I see that I can only download a network installer, and the problem is the only way I can use the internet is via WLAN, which is protected by WPA2 (not WEP!). |
| 13:51.10 | justinas | What can I do in this situation? |
| 13:51.18 | technologov | themill, At least please make ban non-permanent |
| 13:51.35 | tyr | I have a clue now what might be the problem. in asound.conf i am using the ladspa plugin. on an ubunto forum i read that the package libasound2-plugin is no longer compiled with ladspa, maybe it's the same for debian? when i search for libasound2-plugin and ladspa i will get to libasound2-plugin-equal which is available for wheezy. lol maybe i installed the wrong debian :) |
| 13:51.38 | no_gravity | justinas: go to your basement, find a good old grey cat-5 cable, plug it in... |
| 13:51.43 | themill | technologov: it is, presuming you don't start ranting again... |
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| 13:52.00 | diverdude | php5.4 is in RC5 now and stable release will most likely be out in next week. How long is it then until its possible to du apt-get install php54? |
| 13:52.02 | no_gravity | justinas: thats what i am doing RIGHT NOW after not believing it for about an hour... |
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| 13:52.32 | justinas | I see. The problem is that it is not possible. :-/ |
| 13:52.36 | technologov | themill, not on #debian-offtopic then... |
| 13:52.38 | nevyn | justinas: do you know what your wifi card is? |
| 13:52.47 | justinas | Yes, of course. |
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| 13:53.03 | acu | I want to stop the syslogd message - I have an annoying message syslogd@linuxserver at Jan 17 07:47:47 --- kernel:[49764.792104] [Hardware Error]: cache level: L2, tx: GEN, mem-tx: SNP --- how can I suppress totally this message ? It is so anoying, every two minutes makes a beep - the computer runs fine - the CPU is cool - so I just want to suppress that syslogd messages forever - can anyone help ? |
| 13:53.03 | technologov | themill, if I disagree on something I will speak in other channels / mails |
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| 13:53.20 | nevyn | justinas: could you tell us? |
| 13:53.42 | no_gravity | abrotman: it says "configuring apt" and "retrieving file 3 of 5"... what is it doing? |
| 13:54.02 | themill | technologov: there's disagreeing about things and there's wanting to have the same argument with the same people several times per day every day. I'm not going to discuss the subject any further with you in this channel. |
| 13:54.03 | abrotman | no_gravity: downlading some updates |
| 13:54.20 | no_gravity | abrotman: ahhh! i forgot i put in a cable. so it can access the internet without a password! |
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| 13:55.02 | justinas | nevyn: That's a Realtec card. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ |
| 13:55.14 | justinas | s/Realtec/Realtek/g |
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| 13:55.39 | technologov | this is is easy :) |
| 13:55.40 | wfq | hi guys |
| 13:55.51 | technologov | RTL 8139 supported by all OSes :) |
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| 13:56.08 | DelTree | good old 8139... ^_^ |
| 13:56.13 | no_gravity | abrotman: "choose software to install". i leave the default of "graphical desktop environment" and "standard system utilities" right? |
| 13:56.24 | nevyn | justinas: I thought you said there's only wifi? |
| 13:56.30 | abrotman | no_gravity: yes, that should give you gnome at least |
| 13:56.32 | justinas | Hm, wait, that's my ethernet card. WiFi is some Intel thingy. |
| 13:56.39 | nevyn | 8139 is a wired ethernet card. |
| 13:56.40 | DelTree | ... |
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| 13:56.50 | no_gravity | justinas: welcome to the club |
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| 13:56.59 | justinas | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.59 | justinas | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.59 | justinas | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.59 | justinas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:57.04 | justinas | Ups. |
| 13:57.07 | nevyn | yes. |
| 13:57.35 | justinas | Meant to paste only two lines. |
| 13:57.38 | no_gravity | abrotman: retrieving file 48 of 1117 (22min 28s remaining)... |
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| 13:58.04 | abrotman | no_gravity: yep, it'll be a bit .. go grab some coffee |
| 13:58.12 | no_gravity | abrotman: yup |
| 13:58.13 | nevyn | so you'd need to use unofficial cd's that include the wifi firmware to make your wifi card work. that's doable. the problem is WPA isn't supported in the installer. |
| 13:58.29 | acu | Any hints howto shutdown syslogd message ? |
| 13:58.41 | justinas | Sucks. |
| 13:58.53 | no_gravity | justinas: which os do you use right now? |
| 13:58.53 | DelTree | justinas: no way you could get another box to do gateway job ? |
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| 13:59.01 | justinas | Are there any plans to make the debian installer a little bit more versatile in this regard? |
| 13:59.14 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@unaffiliated/nsadmin] by abrotman |
| 13:59.18 | justinas | no_gravity: Ubuntu. |
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| 13:59.26 | justinas | 11.10 |
| 13:59.31 | no_gravity | justinas: and you want to switch because unity sucks? |
| 13:59.48 | justinas | Not that simple, because I don't use Unity. :-D |
| 14:00.04 | technologov | may we ask -- why u switch ? |
| 14:00.08 | justinas | But it certainly sucks. |
| 14:00.13 | technologov | (curiosity) |
| 14:00.17 | no_gravity | justinas: well, thats my reason to try and go back to debian after 6 years of ubuntu. |
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| 14:00.55 | no_gravity | justinas: so i came here to find out just that: no wifi support and no wpa support. now i sit here with a cable connected to my router. |
| 14:00.57 | wfq | Guys I have installed java manually from Sun rather than OpenJDK. Is there any way of getting the java plugin 7 for iceweasel on Debian testing? icedtea-plugin will install me the OpenJDK first I can guess |
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| 14:01.47 | justinas | technologov: My reasons have not yet congealed into anything easily articulable. :-} |
| 14:02.15 | justinas | Just to keep things simple, let's assume that it reduces to "Ubuntu sucks". |
| 14:02.44 | babilen | wfq: You really shouldn't use that JDK/JRE -- OpenJDK is very much recommended (it also is the reference implementation for 7) -- Can't tell you how they ship the plugin though. |
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| 14:02.48 | technologov | no reasons ? That's bad. |
| 14:02.51 | no_gravity | justinas: up to ubuntu 10 i loved it. ubuntu 11 is buggy on my machine and i dont like unity. |
| 14:02.53 | technologov | huh |
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| 14:03.11 | technologov | (I always have reasons, if I migrate) |
| 14:03.33 | justinas | I have my reasons, too. They are a little fuzzy, though. |
| 14:03.39 | abrotman | anyway ... |
| 14:03.39 | no_gravity | technologov: personally, i only migrate one of my boxes. so i can compare and decide if i install it on more machines. |
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| 14:03.44 | acu | Anyone knows how to shutoff syslogd messaging ? |
| 14:03.54 | justinas | Nevertheless, I am most dissatisfied with the status quo of Ubuntu 11.10. |
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| 14:04.13 | wfq | babilen, well I have been given a oracle-based java application and do not want to run into any unexpected issue... |
| 14:04.37 | blubberdiblub | wfq, does it not work with sun java 6? |
| 14:04.57 | justinas | Moreover, I HATE Unity, and I took great pains to cut it out from my current setup. In essence, I migrated from GNOME to Xfce4, thus effectively migrated from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. Manually. |
| 14:05.05 | wfq | no, it doesn't. otherwise I would have installed icetea6-plugin |
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| 14:05.41 | wfq | do you think I can apply this to debian? http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/manual-plugin-install-linux-136395.html |
| 14:05.47 | babilen | justinas: You don't have to use unity in Ubuntu, but that is really rather on-topic in #ubuntu. |
| 14:06.38 | no_gravity | justinas: and you where not happy with xubuntu? i didnt try it, but some other window managers. i wasnt satisfied with any of them. in case i dont stick with debian, i will try some more like xubuntu and mint. |
| 14:06.43 | justinas | I have my own politically incorrect opinion on this piece of software which I am not going to share in this undoubtedly fine establishment. |
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| 14:07.23 | no_gravity | for me nothing i tried came close to gnome. i didnt try kde though. |
| 14:07.25 | justinas | So at any rate, I want either Gnome 3, or the old Gnome back. |
| 14:07.46 | justinas | Because Xfce simply does not cut it for me. |
| 14:07.58 | no_gravity | justinas: i tried gnome-shell. i dont now if that is gnome3 or what. |
| 14:08.03 | justinas | Yes. |
| 14:08.11 | babilen | no_gravity: It is |
| 14:08.44 | no_gravity | hmm... then maybe i didnt try it. because what i saw wasnt so different from gnome2. |
| 14:08.56 | no_gravity | but some things i needed didnt work as expected. |
| 14:09.01 | no_gravity | so i discarded it again. |
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| 14:09.28 | justinas | Thus, technologov, my reasons probably lie with the Unity/Gnome and usability issues. Of course, I can install what I want manually, even to compile it from source, but I am not that enamored with a distribution that I would do such things manually. |
| 14:09.36 | abrotman | !ot |
| 14:09.37 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 14:09.46 | no_gravity | abrotman: ok |
| 14:09.47 | justinas | I am not a 16 years old anymore, and I don't get an erection from "setting things up". |
| 14:09.51 | abrotman | please go to #debian-offtopic if you want to discuss your reasons for leaving Ubuntu, thanks |
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| 14:10.10 | justinas | (And I used to spend nights tweaking FreeBSD, and later Gentoo) |
| 14:10.25 | justinas | Now, I want usability. Right NOW. And with minimal fuss. |
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| 14:13.20 | wfq | where is the plugin folder for iceweasel? locate iceweasel | grep plugin just give me a searchplugins folder |
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| 14:13.57 | lasers | wfq: Try ~/.mozilla/plugins (i don't use iceweasel or firefox myself). |
| 14:14.28 | wfq | lasers, which one do yo use? |
| 14:14.32 | nkuttler | wfq: also, many plugins are packaged.. |
| 14:14.35 | lasers | wfq: http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel#Plugin |
| 14:14.48 | lasers | wfq: Google Chrome. |
| 14:15.03 | technologov | Iceweasel plugins = xul-ext-* packages. |
| 14:15.04 | wfq | is Google Chrome packaged? |
| 14:15.26 | nkuttler | wfq: ask google |
| 14:15.45 | colo-work | wfq, they do provide an apt repo for squeeze, iirc. |
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| 14:15.53 | colo-work | why not just use iceweasel though? :) |
| 14:16.01 | lasers | wfq: No, but chromium is. |
| 14:16.06 | nkuttler | wfq: debian has chromium, which uses chromes's webkit and stuff |
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| 14:16.37 | wfq | ummm I see. Thanks a lot guys for your help |
| 14:16.47 | colo-work | what's the "healthiest"/most sane way of getting a 3.2 vanilla kernel onto a Squeeze system? |
| 14:17.21 | nkuttler | colo-work: find a backport or roll your own |
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| 14:20.05 | doorp | anybody know of a guide for creating a grub bootloader on a USB stick? (the guides I tried by googling - either doesn't work or in-complete) |
| 14:20.51 | wfq | sorted. lasers,nkuttler,colo-work,technologov thanks a lot :). |
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| 14:20.58 | justinas | Ok, if I pass that installation hurdle, where there is no WLAN, will there be any issues with WLAN later? E.g., I simply want to use NetworkManager and not to think about wpa_supplicant, etc. |
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| 14:22.15 | lasers | justinas: If you install Gnome, there will be Gnome Network Manager. |
| 14:22.26 | babilen | wfq: You need JVM7 and you cannot use the reference implementation? I would strongly suggest to make your upstream aware that they should target OpenJDK and not Oracle's version. |
| 14:24.08 | colo-work | nkuttler, how would I "roll my own" correctly, though? I am familiar with configuring and building the kernel sources, but I'd like to integrate the new kernel image into my squeeze system as seamlessly as possible. is there a guide for that kind of surgery somewhere? :) |
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| 14:24.23 | justinas | lasers: Awesome. |
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| 14:25.08 | no_gravity | justinas: but it will not let you connect to wpa networks out of the box as i understand it. |
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| 14:25.19 | no_gravity | justinas: im trying to figure it out right now. |
| 14:25.19 | nkuttler | !tell colo-work about kp |
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| 14:25.37 | colo-work | nkuttler, thanks! |
| 14:26.45 | nkuttler | no_gravity: works for me |
| 14:28.00 | no_gravity | nkuttler: oh, then it wont support the intel wifi card out of the box i guess. at least nobody told me "install gnome and you will have wifi access". everybody said i will have to deal with the wifi issue somehow after installing debian. |
| 14:28.23 | no_gravity | nkuttler: im 80% through with the installation. so we will see... |
| 14:28.35 | Macer | wow the govt is crazy with sopa lol. that will never fly |
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| 14:29.05 | Macer | it will wind up costing the govt 10x in enforcement and court time and people will have a workaround p2p/dns/tor based blacknet running in like a day |
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| 14:29.10 | nkuttler | no_gravity: network manager isn't a driver for your network card |
| 14:29.33 | Macer | gets his tor stuff set up in debian |
| 14:29.41 | nkuttler | no_gravity: that's kernel territory and you've already been told that you might have to install firmware |
| 14:29.41 | no_gravity | nkuttler: ok. but it will wpa support? |
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| 14:29.52 | no_gravity | nkuttler: yes, i will... 90% through... |
| 14:29.59 | nkuttler | no_gravity: define "it" |
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| 14:30.33 | no_gravity | nkuttler: gnome |
| 14:30.36 | Macer | no_gravity: i would have said install ubuntu and it will just work heh |
| 14:30.51 | DelTree | iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 14:31.06 | nkuttler | no_gravity: no. but you can install the gnome network manager applet that uses nm that deals with the wpa stuff |
| 14:31.19 | no_gravity | Macer: i would happily give you an answer to that in #debian-offtopic |
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| 14:31.26 | no_gravity | nkuttler: ok |
| 14:31.33 | themill | Macer: if there's any chance of you staying on-topic, we would be all most grateful. |
| 14:31.44 | Leoneof | hey babilen :) |
| 14:31.48 | DelTree | wpa_supplicant works fine... |
| 14:31.55 | no_gravity | rebooting!! |
| 14:31.57 | Macer | no_gravity: :) wifi cards can be a pain sometimes |
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| 14:33.07 | babilen | hugs Leoneof |
| 14:33.12 | Macer | hey but maybe you will get lucky and it will just work. i'm sure there is a good howto or other doc around somewhere |
| 14:33.20 | no_gravity | abrotman: im in gnome! |
| 14:33.51 | abrotman | no_gravity: did you get your wireless firmware installed yet? |
| 14:34.07 | no_gravity | abrotman: i saw no info regarding that during the installation |
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| 14:34.18 | lasers | no_gravity: Lies. ;3 |
| 14:34.23 | abrotman | !tell no_gravity about ipw2200 |
| 14:34.25 | no_gravity | i didnt do anything after the installation |
| 14:34.27 | lasers | no_gravity: iwp something. |
| 14:34.33 | Leoneof | babilen: thanks! , i'm using gnome now :D |
| 14:35.00 | no_gravity | abrotman: "apt-get firmware-ipw2x00" ? |
| 14:35.14 | no_gravity | "apt-get install firmware-ipw2x00" i mean. |
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| 14:35.46 | abrotman | no_gravity: you have to enable your non-free sources first |
| 14:36.02 | no_gravity | abrotman: "vim /etc/apt sources.lst"? |
| 14:36.06 | abrotman | no_gravity: so "/msg dpkg non-free sources" as the bot suggests |
| 14:36.18 | lasers | no_gravity: Are you familiar with vim? |
| 14:36.25 | lasers | no_gravity: If not, use nano instead. |
| 14:36.26 | doorp | When I try to use grub's command line with my USB stick connected - and execute: "ls" ... there's no response - it freezes... anybody experienced with grub issues? |
| 14:36.35 | no_gravity | lasers: i live in vim |
| 14:36.46 | abrotman | is it sunny there? |
| 14:36.49 | tyr | ok, i tried to install various ladspa packages, but i keep getting the error: ALSA lib pcm_ladspa.c:1502:(snd_pcm_ladspa_add_plugin) Unable to find or load plugin '(null)' ID 1672, path '/usr/lib/ladspa'. i think it is right to say that debian squeeze does not fully support alsa, because the ladspa option is definitely part of alsa as can be read here: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html. Sorry i'm a bit upset now. On anot |
| 14:36.50 | tyr | her partition I have an older debian which does the job. |
| 14:37.13 | no_gravity | abrotman: what do you mean with "/msg dpkg non-free sources"? |
| 14:37.33 | abrotman | no_gravity: it's an IRC command .. the bot will give you more info |
| 14:38.03 | no_gravity | abrotman: ok |
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| 14:38.45 | no_gravity | abrotman: it says something about aptitude. i always use apt-get. thats ok too, right? |
| 14:39.22 | abrotman | yes, though aptitude is generally recommended for day to day operations .. your call |
| 14:39.37 | no_gravity | ok |
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| 14:42.02 | no_gravity | what is the reason, that non-free repositories are disables by default? what is the benefit of that? |
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| 14:43.13 | no_gravity | abrotman: what are the "two main Debian mirror lines". the first 2 lines of sources.lst? |
| 14:43.22 | abrotman | no_gravity: for starters, not legal to redistribute in some casesw, illegal in other places .. non-free means a few different things |
| 14:43.25 | abrotman | !dfsg |
| 14:43.25 | dpkg | DFSG is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines . For a full list of DFSG-compatible/incompatible software licenses, see http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses |
| 14:43.28 | littlebit | hello people, i have a debian OS in my vbox installed and when inserting and mounting a usb storage device I get the following message in my console: FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be casesensitive! |
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| 14:44.04 | littlebit | and when entering into the mounted path and I do a ls i get everything listed in a garbeled up manner |
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| 14:45.12 | littlebit | any idea y? |
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| 14:45.37 | no_gravity | abrotman: should i add " contrib non-free" to ALL lines in sources.lst? |
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| 14:47.15 | abrotman | no_gravity: all of the http sources, sure .. won't work on the CD source |
| 14:47.24 | no_gravity | ok |
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| 14:49.02 | babilen | !tell no_gravity -about make squeeze sources.list |
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| 14:49.23 | no_gravity | abrotman: so i do "apt-get install firmware-ipw2200" now? |
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| 14:50.06 | babilen | no_gravity: No, you want firmware-ipw2x00 |
| 14:50.28 | no_gravity | ok |
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| 14:51.07 | abrotman | wonders if they could create a metapackage that runs a script to look for required firmware, enable non-free, and install those packages |
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| 14:53.09 | littlebit | hi... |
| 14:53.43 | technologov | hello |
| 14:54.02 | littlebit | can someone help me with the problem that I stated above? |
| 14:54.09 | technologov | wonders why no one asks about WebM codec... |
| 14:54.23 | no_gravity | abrotman: ok, i installed firmware-ipw2x00. what do i do now? |
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| 14:54.55 | abrotman | no_gravity: quick solution: reboot , learning solution: unload/reload driver |
| 14:55.08 | no_gravity | abrotman: ok, reboot |
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| 14:57.46 | babilen | heh |
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| 14:58.23 | jokar | hello all |
| 14:58.31 | jokar | my debian not booted |
| 14:59.54 | abrotman | what did it do instead? |
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| 15:00.22 | jokar | i install vserver for my debian but after it debian not booted |
| 15:00.46 | mick_home_ | hi everyone, how can I give a user sudo access to one command where they don't need to put in a password? |
| 15:00.47 | jokar | i see a command prompt and gdm not work |
| 15:00.47 | no_gravity | hurray, online with wifi and wpa!! |
| 15:00.52 | no_gravity | abrotman: thank you so much! |
| 15:01.11 | abrotman | no_gravity: have a good day .. good luck, have fun |
| 15:01.35 | mick_home_ | I have: %myuser ALL =/usr/bin/tail -f /var/log/httpd/error_log |
| 15:01.45 | mick_home_ | which works |
| 15:02.02 | jhutchins_wk | jokar: Sounds like it booted to me. You just don't have a GUI. |
| 15:02.04 | abrotman | no_gravity: you might like to install synaptic if you would like a GUI package manager |
| 15:02.26 | mick_home_ | but I need to enter a password, I thought that I'd need NOPASSWD:ALL somewhere |
| 15:02.56 | no_gravity | abrotman: ive been using apt-get since 2002 i think. i never saw a reason to change that. |
| 15:03.17 | abrotman | no_gravity: okay, have fun |
| 15:03.28 | abrotman | no_gravity: FYI, you might want to "/msg dpkg why aptitude" |
| 15:03.42 | jokar | how recover my debian? |
| 15:03.49 | abrotman | no_gravity: just for your own info |
| 15:04.29 | no_gravity | abrotman: ok |
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| 15:05.00 | mick_home_ | no_gravity: and you have never run into apt-get's quirks? |
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| 15:05.55 | pippo | msg dpkg guidelines |
| 15:05.59 | jokar | hey all |
| 15:06.15 | mick_home_ | if anyone knows how to give a user permission to execute a command w/o a password - please /msg me - I'm going afk |
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| 15:06.45 | no_gravity | mick_home_: not that i know of. what quirks? i dont use much software. i cannot think of anything apart from vim, firefox and skype that i installed lately. |
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| 15:07.14 | abrotman | !tell mick_home_ about suid |
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| 15:07.51 | ksk | how about sudo?? |
| 15:08.13 | ksk | "to give a user permission to execute a command w/o a password" @ mick_home_ |
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| 15:08.34 | jelly-home | !tell mick_home_ about sudo |
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| 15:10.18 | ChrisH | :q |
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| 15:15.09 | dbtid | ok, i'm new to debian, but have done unix/linux/bsd admin work for a looong time. it seems that all of the x/inetd* is all gone. waht's replaced it? are servers just supposed to be started from the start scripts, and there is no more inetd? |
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| 15:17.28 | jhutchins_wk | dbtid: I've used it in lenny. |
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| 15:17.52 | dbtid | jhutchins_wk: how do i find out which version of debian i have, from the command line? |
| 15:17.58 | dbtid | it's not lenny, i'm pretty sure. |
| 15:18.09 | babilen | dbtid: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 15:18.21 | dbtid | babilen: 6.0.3 |
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| 15:18.38 | mick_home_ | abrotman / jelly-home: you guys are awesome. thanks |
| 15:18.44 | Sc0rian | grimeton: i followed this http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/2011/03/setting-up-raid-on-existing.html and it work perfectly |
| 15:18.44 | abrotman | WIN! |
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| 15:18.50 | babilen | dbtid: That is the last point release of squeeze (current stable) |
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| 15:19.08 | dbtid | ok. so squeeze doesn't come with an inetd server by default? |
| 15:19.12 | innociv | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-write-shell-script-to-add-user.html What is with the perl scrypt for encrypting a password? Doesn't useradd -p encrypt the supplied password itself? |
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| 15:19.20 | jelly-home | dbtid: correct |
| 15:19.30 | dbtid | i have what i need, which is tftpd, i'm just wondering why these things have changed so drastically. |
| 15:19.33 | dbtid | err |
| 15:19.36 | dbtid | HeavyMetal: thanks |
| 15:19.36 | dbtid | jelly-home: thanks :) |
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| 15:21.44 | grimeton | Sc0rian: nice :) |
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| 15:24.15 | jaakkos | dbtid: you can just install an inetd. |
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| 15:24.19 | crculver | I have a network with intel graphics. Debian Wheezy has installed drivers for nvidia and radeon, which I don't need. |
| 15:24.33 | dbtid | jaakkos: i suppose i could. |
| 15:24.41 | crculver | However, I can't do "apt-get remove libdrm-nouveau1a libdrm-radeon1" without apt also wanting to remove libgl1-mesa-dri and xorg. |
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| 15:24.44 | jaakkos | dbtid: apt-get install openbsd-inetd |
| 15:24.46 | dbtid | i guess i was simply taken aback by the fact that there *wasn't* one :) |
| 15:25.09 | dbtid | jaakkos: is there a web page that lists all those packages by category, or does one need to do apt-cache search for everything?? |
| 15:25.26 | epsilon | crculver: thats basic driver, you probably have more of these. Just ignore, they are not in use anyway |
| 15:25.48 | Cain | Is there a way to find out which package provides a given command ? like for example smbpasswd is provided with what debian package ? |
| 15:26.01 | jhutchins_wk | dbtid: I think that's probably a smart choice for a desktop default, and possibly even for servers. Most services _don't_ use inetd, so making it a manual install makes sense. |
| 15:26.03 | epsilon | dpkg -S <file> |
| 15:26.03 | dpkg | Badgers ate my <file>! |
| 15:26.05 | ChrisH | apt-file search smbpasswd |
| 15:26.07 | jaakkos | dbtid: aptitude is quite powerful for that |
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| 15:26.26 | babilen | Cain: Use apt-file ... e.g. if you are looking for a program foo you could use: apt-file search -x "bin/foo$" |
| 15:26.26 | innociv | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-write-shell-script-to-add-user.html What is with the perl scrypt for encrypting a password? Doesn't useradd -p encrypt the supplied password itself? Anyone? |
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| 15:26.31 | crculver | epsilon, I seem to recall earlier Debian versions allowing one to remove unneeded X drivers. |
| 15:26.31 | babilen | !tell Cain -about apt-file |
| 15:26.47 | jaakkos | dbtid: also apt-cache search <words> |
| 15:27.06 | Cain | great! thx guys |
| 15:27.15 | jaakkos | dbtid: dpkg -l shows what you have installed |
| 15:27.58 | jaakkos | search also searches description |
| 15:28.06 | epsilon | crculver: if you want to uninstall all unneeded drivers, you have a hell of a job from building own kernel up to breaking all dependencies |
| 15:28.14 | babilen | dbtid: There are a lot of ways to search for specific packages. aptitude provides powerful search functionalities (/msg dpkg aptitude search), but you might also like to search by specific tags. See "/msg dpkg debtags" and http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/ about that (that service is unfortunately down at the moment) |
| 15:29.20 | dbtid | i'm aware there are ways to search; a listing would be nice. that's all. |
| 15:29.35 | dbtid | i'll use the gui |
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| 15:30.12 | jhutchins_wk | dbtid: Debian currently has about 30,000 packages. |
| 15:30.13 | babilen | dbtid: You can browse packages by tags (on the website that is currently down) or within aptitude -- Just run "aptitude" -- synaptics also sorts packages into groups ... |
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| 15:31.44 | themill | axi-cache ftw |
| 15:31.55 | themill | !axi-search |
| 15:31.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, axi-cache is a very fast and very sophisticated package search program. It can search through package descriptions for sets of words as well as making use of <debtags>. Its tab-completion makes search suggestions for other words and tags found in association with the ones you have already entered. It is found in the apt-xapian-index package. Also ask me about <aptitude search>. |
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| 15:32.38 | themill | babilen: s/debtags.alioth.debian.org/debtags.debian.net/ btw |
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| 15:33.33 | babilen | themill: YAY! |
| 15:33.43 | babilen | dbtid: http://debtags.debian.net/ :) |
| 15:34.21 | innociv | How would I get the username and password args within a bash script if I wanted to do something like ./adduser username password? |
| 15:34.52 | themill | innociv: what are you really trying to do? |
| 15:35.21 | innociv | ${args[0]} and ${args[1]} I guess... |
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| 15:35.53 | nvictor | hey all |
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| 15:36.16 | nvictor | is there a way for having cat output the name of the file before its contents? |
| 15:36.26 | themill | innociv: you realise that any user on the machine can see the user's plain text password in your command list if you do that? |
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| 15:40.56 | innociv | How do I give php user foo acess to run addsftpuser.sh ? "foo ALL = addsftpuser.sh" in sudoers? |
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| 15:41.49 | nkuttler | innociv: ew... if you really want to do that.. man 5 sudoers |
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| 15:42.36 | nkuttler | and make sure the file is -w... and and and |
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| 15:43.32 | innociv | Do I need to reload something for the /etc/sudoers changes to take effect? |
| 15:43.41 | Owner_ | in resolv.conf does the search line need to be first or does it not matter? |
| 15:44.11 | Owner_ | innociv| no, unless you need to add someone to the sudoers group and then they have to log back in |
| 15:44.14 | innociv | I think my irc is lagged to hell. |
| 15:44.40 | Cain | How to modify this fstab line to make give read&write to all users for this mount point ? ==>UUID=45b032a4-cfac-4dc0-a1bf-6992e86ecb79 /media/Faith ext4 defaults 0 0 |
| 15:44.42 | innociv | themill, I'm trying to make a bash script that php can run to create a linux user in the sftp group. |
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| 15:46.10 | themill | innociv: every time someone writes something like that, someone kills a kitten |
| 15:46.31 | innociv | What else do I do then? |
| 15:46.42 | innociv | I don't want to give php permission to useradd. |
| 15:47.51 | innociv | All I've gotten for weeks, for the most part, is people telling me not to do things but not what to do. |
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| 15:53.09 | innociv | :/ |
| 15:53.11 | themill | innociv: there are already tools that exist that do this in a secure way. You might want to reconsider using real unix users entirely for what you're trying to do (you haven't told us, so we don't know). In any case, you want to be avoiding passing plain-text passwords on the command line. |
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| 15:53.18 | innociv | Really? |
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| 15:53.49 | innociv | And I've been told to use real linux users so I can have an apache process chrooted to their directory. |
| 15:54.15 | innociv | It's sftp, web. I'm using The simple sftp thing built into the newer OpenSSH. |
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| 15:54.31 | babilen | innociv: What are you trying to achieve/implement? |
| 15:54.34 | innociv | What tools already exist to do this? |
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| 15:54.40 | innociv | Shared hosting sort of thing. |
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| 15:59.40 | justinas | Hey, I just found live images of Debian. |
| 15:59.42 | justinas | Yahoo! |
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| 16:00.35 | diverdude | I want to execute webfiles outside /var/www in a ~ folder owned by user bdi:bdi. So i did sudo usermod -a -G bdi www-data, created a Vhost and changed the docroot for this vhost...but i get "forbidden" error. What am I missing? |
| 16:01.06 | cristian | Hi guys, I have installed php5-mysql on Debian 6.0. It says that it also includes the mysqli extension. How can I test that? |
| 16:01.21 | cristian | php -i |grep mysqli shows no results... |
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| 16:01.55 | diverdude | cristian, do phpinfo(); |
| 16:02.10 | ksk | diverdude: take a look at mod_userdir (or sth like that) |
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| 16:02.35 | diverdude | ksk, no it should be possible to just redirect the request |
| 16:02.55 | diverdude | ksk, i dont think there is need for a module to do that |
| 16:02.57 | ksk | it sure sure is. but you seem to have some problem. |
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| 16:03.02 | Owner_ | innociv| any lucky? |
| 16:03.12 | cristian | no mysqli :( |
| 16:03.29 | Owner_ | how can i a debian |
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| 16:04.20 | diverdude | ksk, but does this look correct for /etc/group | grep ww-data |
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| 16:04.41 | diverdude | ksk, www-data:x:33: |
| 16:04.41 | diverdude | bdi:x:1000:www-data |
| 16:04.58 | diverdude | ksk, i mean...what are those x:33 and x:1000 ? |
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| 16:07.14 | jelly-home | diverdude: numeric values of group ids |
| 16:07.22 | justinas | eAndrius: Long time no see. |
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| 16:10.19 | jokar__ | anybody here? |
| 16:10.43 | jokar__ | how remove my vserver using recovery mod? |
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| 16:11.33 | jelly-home | diverdude: the kernel does not know about group "www-data", just "33". All the apps use the resolver library to map group names to numerical gids. Same thing for usernames and uids. |
| 16:11.37 | jokar__ | hello all |
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| 16:12.30 | jokar__ | how remove vserver via recovery mod |
| 16:12.34 | jokar__ | ? |
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| 16:14.00 | jelly-home | jokar__: I have no idea what a "recovery mod" is. |
| 16:14.14 | jokar__ | please guide me |
| 16:14.42 | jelly-home | that will be hard to do, I don't even understand your question |
| 16:14.47 | jokar__ | when i want go mto debian 6 it show me a vserver amd64 and vserve...recovery mod |
| 16:15.13 | jokar__ | i install kernel header for vserver and after it my linux not booted |
| 16:15.32 | jelly-home | so boot a different kernel |
| 16:15.39 | jokar__ | i want use 3d desktop and install nvidia kernel |
| 16:15.47 | jelly-home | are those the only two options you get? |
| 16:15.52 | jokar__ | how use different kernel? |
| 16:15.59 | jokar__ | no no |
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| 16:16.28 | jokar__ | i install nvidia and my linux boot via vserver but i install vmware and after it my linux not booted |
| 16:16.40 | jokar__ | my gdm not booted |
| 16:17.04 | jokar__ | Vmware say me it is need vserver header |
| 16:17.04 | Leoneof | startx |
| 16:17.16 | jokar__ | how remove vserver or recover it |
| 16:17.29 | jokar__ | it not show me any console |
| 16:17.34 | jelly-home | jokar__: kust pick a different kernel from the grub menu, for a start |
| 16:17.37 | jokar__ | therefor startx not work |
| 16:17.42 | jelly-home | just* |
| 16:17.50 | tyr | ok, back to my problem with alsa. i'll make a 'do or die' install which means removing alsa and compiling from source. synaptic wants to remove gnome too, so if this doesn't work, i will switch to some other distro. please tell your friends who f***** up debian to get it working. it's ok for me if linux doesn't support everything, but it's not ok, if things were supported and then get screwed by somebody |
| 16:18.05 | jokar__ | when i use dif....kernel it not show me any gui or gdm |
| 16:18.17 | jokar__ | can you show me a command |
| 16:18.20 | jelly-home | jokar__: but you get a console? |
| 16:18.26 | jokar__ | no |
| 16:18.42 | jokar__ | only a black window |
| 16:18.43 | jelly-home | so blank screen, no login prompt? |
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| 16:18.48 | jokar__ | yes |
| 16:18.52 | jokar__ | yes |
| 16:18.57 | christianp | hi friends |
| 16:19.04 | jokar__ | o/ |
| 16:19.17 | jokar__ | it show me a blank screen |
| 16:19.59 | jelly-home | jokar__: ok, so boot to recovery/single user mode, then try reinstalling nvidia. |
| 16:20.11 | jelly-home | !tell jokar__ about nvidia dkms |
| 16:20.30 | jokar__ | how? |
| 16:21.01 | innociv | Ugh. |
| 16:21.04 | jelly-home | jokar__: read what dpkg told you. |
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| 16:21.10 | jokar__ | aha |
| 16:21.17 | jokar__ | is it need internet? |
| 16:21.42 | jokar__ | is need internet? |
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| 16:22.10 | christianp | i update a debian "stable" distro to a "testing" one changing the word "stable" into "testing" into sources.list. All the system works a lot, breaking a lot of packages. After using aptitude install --fix-broken, my system works, but i loose a lot of "standard" gnome package. Is there a way to call a metapackage to install all the standard gnome spftware? I tried using aptitude install gnome-desktop with no luck. |
| 16:22.30 | littlebit | is there a way to access a windows share folder through the console? |
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| 16:24.54 | innociv | So how am I supposed to add sftp users from a php interface without giving php permissions to add users? I'm using apache, OpenSSH internal-sftp. |
| 16:25.41 | abrotman | littlebit: yes, smbmount for starters |
| 16:26.12 | technologov | -or- Google "mount -t smbfs" |
| 16:26.46 | DelTree | smbfs or cifs... |
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| 16:27.42 | DelTree | or even autodetection... when it works good... |
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| 16:31.25 | wabash | Hi, picking out my next os |
| 16:31.25 | wabash | Does Debian do automatic security updates like Ubuntu does? |
| 16:31.55 | p3rror | any tools to monitor ethernet card status |
| 16:32.13 | petemc | ifplugd |
| 16:32.25 | p3rror | ifplugd ? |
| 16:32.27 | p3rror | what is it ? |
| 16:32.38 | petemc | apt-cache show ifplugd |
| 16:32.51 | petemc | it might do more than you need |
| 16:32.54 | p3rror | i remember i used an application baed on ncurses that give full stat of NIC's card |
| 16:33.01 | petemc | ethtool |
| 16:33.06 | p3rror | nop |
| 16:33.20 | petemc | yup |
| 16:33.30 | babilen | wabash: What do you understand under automatic security updates? |
| 16:33.33 | petemc | it may not be what you used, but it does do what you specified |
| 16:33.55 | Sevet | !t wabash about apticron |
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| 16:34.03 | Sevet | !tell wabash about apticron |
| 16:34.35 | Sevet | also... |
| 16:34.36 | Sevet | !tell wabash about cron-apt |
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| 16:35.02 | babilen | and unattended-upgrades and ... -- Maybe we should clarify what wabash actualle wants first? |
| 16:35.08 | babilen | *actually |
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| 16:36.08 | jelly-home | wabash: they are not automatically applied. They are not even automatically downloaded by default. |
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| 16:37.11 | Sevet | jelly-home: that depends on the tool you're using... some are only notifications, others do actually update too |
| 16:37.22 | babilen | "by default" |
| 16:37.26 | wabash | jelly-home: Is it similar to ubuntu? Something checks, then notifies you? |
| 16:37.37 | babilen | wabash: What do you want? |
| 16:37.49 | jordanm | sounds like he wants update-manager |
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| 16:38.05 | babilen | or update-notifier? |
| 16:38.10 | babilen | Who knows!? |
| 16:38.23 | wabash | babilen: Is there such a think as "update-manager" in debian? |
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| 16:39.11 | babilen | ,v update-manager-gnome |
| 16:39.13 | judd | Package: update-manager-gnome on i386 -- squeeze: 0.200.5-1; sid: 0.200.5-2; wheezy: 0.200.5-2 |
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| 16:39.55 | wabash | I see, thank you. |
| 16:40.25 | babilen | wabash: ^^^ What do you want? Do you want updates to be automatically applied? Do you merely want to be notifed when updates become available? Do you want this to be a GUI notification or do you prefer to be notified by mail? Do you only want upgrades to be downloaded or ... ? |
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| 16:41.22 | wabash | babilen: A gui app, similar to Ubuntu's. It notifies you daily (or weekly, or whatever) if they are avaliable. Then you review them, downloadthem and install them if you want to at that time. |
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| 16:43.01 | babilen | wabash: That really depends on what you use to manage/install packages. You can, naturally, use update-manager-gnome, but also tools such as synaptic can display a notification icon in the panel when updates become available. There are also dedicated GUI tools such as update-notifier and ... |
| 16:43.17 | wabash | babilen: I see. |
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| 16:44.10 | vto | hello, does groups in linux have permissions per se? i mean, can i assign permissions to a group and then assign that group to a file so the file whill have those group permissions?/ |
| 16:44.46 | babilen | wabash: So, if you typically use synaptic to manage packages (as opposed to apt-get/aptitude on the command line, or software-center, ...) I would recommend to just enable the "notify me of available upgrades" icon and you are done. |
| 16:45.00 | wabash | babilen: Nice! Thank you. |
| 16:45.06 | innociv | So how am I supposed to add sftp users from a php interface without giving php permissions to add users? I'm using apache, OpenSSH internal-sftp. I thought I should have a bash script that creates the user, and to have php executing the bash script, but apparently I shouldn't? I don't know what else I should do. |
| 16:45.22 | ksk | vto: you set general "group permissions" - whatever group you now assign to the file, will have these permissions |
| 16:45.26 | ksk | googles your friend btw ;) |
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| 16:46.18 | GTRsdk | How exactly do I let others SSH into this computer? |
| 16:46.36 | petemc | GTRsdk: if they have an account and you use the default it config it should just work |
| 16:46.39 | vto | ive been searching for a command to list the permissions asociated to every group |
| 16:46.53 | petemc | s/it// |
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| 16:47.01 | wabash | babilen: Ok, how bout this: Debian has very long cycles. I'm fine with that for the OS. But one thing about Ubuntu's 6 month cycle is that the repos get updated too, so all the C++ complier versions, firefox, etc, get pegged to the newer versions when you upgrade the os. |
| 16:47.01 | wabash | babilien: So, how can I do this for debian? How can I tell it to look at newer app versions, even if the OS is stable at 1 year old? |
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| 16:47.26 | GTRsdk | petemc: is there a configuration tool then that needs to be ran? |
| 16:47.31 | petemc | no |
| 16:47.40 | petemc | other than adduser |
| 16:47.56 | babilen | wabash: You can't -- stable means "not changing" -- We do, however, provide backports of selected packages and you can backport other packages yourself. (See "/msg dpkg bdo" "/msg dpkg ssb") |
| 16:47.58 | petemc | and you have to have ssh server installed, obviosly |
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| 16:48.10 | psusi | with bts, if I want to ask for more info, and tag the bug as + moreinfo, can I not do that with one email? or do I have to email the message to nnn@bugs and then the tags command to control@bugs? |
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| 16:49.02 | babilen | wabash: Some users track a development branch of Debian (testing/unstable) which are continuously updated most of the time, but I wouldn't recommend that as you might run into horrible bugs or situations that you find hard to solve once in a while. |
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| 16:50.00 | wabash | babilen: Not sure if you misunderstood me, but not talking about updating the OS exactly... more thinking of apps. So stable OS version, not upgraded, but want to always get the newest firefox, say. |
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| 16:51.13 | GTRsdk | petemc: so how do I find out what to use to connect to this computer using SSH? |
| 16:51.24 | babilen | wabash: Are you thinking about a clear distinction between "core" utilities that constitute the OS together with the kernel and "userland" applications? A distinction like on *BSD? |
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| 16:51.50 | petemc | GTRsdk: you use a ssh client |
| 16:52.02 | babilen | wabash: To be more specific: you can get the newest firefox from http://mozilla.debian.net (currently down unfortunately) |
| 16:52.20 | GTRsdk | petemc: no like... is there a way to see what address, or does it just go by computer name? |
| 16:53.02 | petemc | GTRsdk: ifconfig will show your ip, or google for what is my ip |
| 16:53.12 | wabash | babilen: No, I'm just thinking in terms of being a user. I'm fine with a 1.5 year old OS core, since i understand what you guys do w.r.t. stable vs. unstable. But then, there are new features in new apps in the newer repos, and I'd love to get the newer features. |
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| 16:53.41 | babilen | wabash: What is the OS core? |
| 16:54.11 | wabash | babilen: Sorry? No, I'm contemplating a switch to debian from Ubuntu. This is my stopping point. |
| 16:54.13 | avernos | is there any reason for NameVirtualHost *:80 to be on the file ports.conf. apache gives warnings with that line |
| 16:54.20 | psusi | the definition of stable is not adding new features |
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| 16:55.09 | wabash | psusi: Yes, read what I wrote again. I'm talking about software, not say, the kernel. |
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| 16:55.27 | GTRsdk | petemc: but I need to find out what port to have the other computer connect to, right? |
| 16:55.40 | petemc | GTRsdk: ssh runs on port 22 by default |
| 16:55.43 | epod | Would anyone be able to take a moment and give me their advice on Debian compatibility for a laptop I'm thinking of purchasing? |
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| 16:55.54 | Guest77334 | [ot] anyone ever set up indefero with mercurial support ? if so, please help me... |
| 16:56.44 | babilen | wabash: What is part of the "core OS" and "apps" in your understanding? But to make this more productive .. You have some options: 1. Run stable 2. Run stable and install selected newer packages from backports and backport packages yourself 3. Track a continuously updated development branch of Debian (testing/unstable) with all the brokenness that might entail. (some users find testing to be quite fine and actually less broken than stable ... |
| 16:56.50 | babilen | ... releases of other distributions) |
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| 16:57.07 | innociv | So how am I supposed to add sftp users from a php interface without giving php permissions to add users? I'm using apache, OpenSSH internal-sftp. I thought I should have a bash script that creates the user, and to have php executing the bash script, but apparently I shouldn't? I don't know what else I should do. |
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| 16:57.30 | wabash | babilen: sounds like #2.... I'm unclear on "backport". Does this mean "New app, set up for older OS"? |
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| 16:57.53 | babilen | wabash: It should have become apparent by now that I recommend either 1. or 2., but I wanted to give you the complete picture. There is no real distinctions between the "core OS" and "applications" in the way it is done on *BSD |
| 16:58.12 | babilen | wabash: Have you read "/msg dpkg bdo" already? |
| 16:58.36 | babilen | wabash: Or rather "/msg dpkg backports" and the linked webpages? |
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| 17:00.34 | yareckon | hi, anyone know whats up with the mozilla-debian team and mozilla.debian.net repos? |
| 17:00.52 | wabash | babilen: Ok, read, but, I'm unclear on backport concept. Can you clarify? Is what I said above correct? |
| 17:00.54 | yareckon | websearches find lots of folks wondering, but no definitive infromation |
| 17:01.02 | babilen | yareckon: Down (alioth is down -- <20120117075030.GA3418@varinia.lobefin.net>) |
| 17:01.09 | psusi | so with debbugs, can I not ask the reporter for more information, and tag the bug as + moreinfo in the same email? |
| 17:02.08 | babilen | wabash: Backports are packages from testing (/msg dpkg testing) that have been compiled and adapted (if necessary) for stable. They are therefore newer versions of packages/programs/... for the current stable release. |
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| 17:03.19 | wabash | babilen: Got it, thank you. So if I get a backport of IceWeasel, say, then it could be last weeks version of firefox set up for my 1 year old OS? |
| 17:03.29 | babilen | yareckon: You might want to subscribe to debian-devel-announce if you want to receive information like this. Do you know what to do with the message ID I quoted? |
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| 17:04.03 | babilen | wabash: Yes (more or less) |
| 17:04.12 | wabash | ok, nice. |
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| 17:04.36 | yareckon | babilen, No, I don't know what to do with the message id |
| 17:04.51 | wabash | So repo-wise, is there a concept of Universe and so on for debian, like Ubuntu? e.g, say I wanted Sun Java, could I get from a bigger and less free repo? |
| 17:05.16 | yareckon | wabash, you can get non-free programs from a smaller and less free repo |
| 17:05.22 | yareckon | "non-free" |
| 17:05.46 | yareckon | not sure myself if java is in there |
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| 17:05.55 | babilen | wabash: Note that only a small subset of packages has been backported. A number of packages that are not in the official backports repository can be backported manually, but this *might* involve a of work. -- It would, for example, be a major undertaking to backport the complete gnome3 suite of packages to stable. |
| 17:05.55 | themill | wabash: sun java is not a great example since Oracle changed the licence forbidding distribution. |
| 17:06.08 | yareckon | ^ also, what he said ! |
| 17:06.18 | wabash | themill: Interesting. For sun java then, manual install is the only way? |
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| 17:06.29 | themill | wabash: using openjdk is a better plan |
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| 17:06.50 | babilen | yareckon: Ok, the message ID references a specific mail in the Debian mailing lists archive. You can open http://list.debian.org/<20120117075030.GA3418@varinia.lobefin.net> to read it. |
| 17:07.06 | wabash | themill: Sorry if OT, but do you use? I've heard some things about the openjdk JIT not being as good, and the cpu intrinsics not being as awesome. |
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| 17:08.10 | themill | wabash: I have both installed on my squeeze laptop; I only have openjdk installed on later machines |
| 17:08.12 | wabash | Generally question: Will backports from Unstable still have security patches applied, even if they are "unstable"? |
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| 17:08.55 | babilen | !tell wabash -about stable |
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| 17:09.06 | yareckon | babilen, cool it's lists though ->http://lists.debian.org |
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| 17:09.14 | zykotick9 | wabash: that would be up to the maintainer, as the security team doesn't support "unstable" |
| 17:09.15 | babilen | wabash: stable/unstable in Debian mean "not changing"/"changing" |
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| 17:09.33 | afidegnum | hello all, pls how do I add the conky package ? here is the package list ... http://packages.debian.org/sid/conky |
| 17:09.35 | wabash | babilen: I see. Wait..... |
| 17:09.45 | wabash | zykotick9: Ok, so sec team patches stable, correct? |
| 17:09.53 | babilen | yareckon: Ah, yeah sure. Sorry for the typo. Using the message ID is a handy way to refence specific emails |
| 17:09.58 | yareckon | yes, it is |
| 17:09.59 | wabash | If that's the case, then stable changes, babilen. |
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| 17:10.21 | afidegnum | any answer pls |
| 17:10.23 | afidegnum | ? |
| 17:10.24 | zykotick9 | wabash: don't try to argue about what you don't know ;) |
| 17:10.58 | wabash | zykotick9: No, just fishing out inconsistencies so I can understand better. So, tell me: if a security patch is issued, it's applied to stable branch, correct? |
| 17:11.02 | babilen | wabash: Please read what dpkg just told you about stable -- And surely it changes to a certain degree as we take security support *very* serious. |
| 17:11.04 | lstarnes | afidegnum: did you try apt-get install conky? |
| 17:11.22 | afidegnum | yes, and it said no package of that name |
| 17:11.37 | afidegnum | lstarnes: I even tried aptitude, the same thing |
| 17:11.50 | wabash | babilen: It tells me some.... It does not tell me if security patches are also applied to Unstable. |
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| 17:12.12 | lstarnes | afidegnum: did you enable the contrib repos in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 17:12.17 | lstarnes | wabash: yes |
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| 17:12.31 | afidegnum | let me check |
| 17:12.34 | lstarnes | wabash: just not in the same way or as directly |
| 17:12.34 | wabash | lstarnes: Ok, thanks. |
| 17:12.35 | zykotick9 | lstarnes: the conky package i get is from updates (not main), as i don't have contrib on my system |
| 17:12.36 | babilen | wabash: New packages (that might include security patches) are uploaded to unstable |
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| 17:12.54 | babilen | !tell afidegnum -about make squeeze sources.list |
| 17:13.00 | lstarnes | wabash: for stable, the relevant changes are excised and backported from unstable |
| 17:13.04 | wabash | lstarnes: babilen: I see. My concern is this: Having a bunch of backported unstables so that tehy are new, but making sure their holes are fixed. |
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| 17:13.11 | afidegnum | lstarnes: there is no contrib |
| 17:13.14 | afidegnum | how do I add it pls ? |
| 17:13.15 | lstarnes | afidegnum: add it |
| 17:13.29 | lstarnes | afidegnum: just put "contrib" at the end of the deb and deb-src lines |
| 17:13.47 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 17:14.33 | babilen | wabash: There is *no* way to make sure that completely new software does not have security related bugs. It takes time for security holes to be discovered and fixed. So you will always have a compromise between "well tested" and "new" |
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| 17:17.07 | babilen | wabash: You might want to read http://www.debian.org/security/faq and http://www.debian.org/releases/ for a start. |
| 17:17.22 | wabash | babilen: Thank you very much for the links. Will do. |
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| 17:18.27 | babilen | wabash: You are welcome |
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| 17:20.33 | melik | anybody know of any mirrors to hwraid.le-vert.net |
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| 17:21.33 | babilen | melik: Why would Debian want to mirror that? |
| 17:21.53 | afidegnum | lstarnes: I had packages not found error |
| 17:22.02 | melik | babilen, RAID software |
| 17:22.15 | afidegnum | using ftp.us.debian.org |
| 17:22.40 | babilen | melik: You can find the packages and orig tarballs in Debian's repositories. |
| 17:22.54 | babilen | !show sources.list |
| 17:22.54 | dpkg | Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
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| 17:23.17 | babilen | afidegnum: Please paste ^^^ as well as "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy conky" |
| 17:23.48 | babilen | afidegnum: Have you read the "make squeeze sources.list" factoid dpkg told you about earlier? |
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| 17:25.30 | innociv | So how am I supposed to add sftp users from a php interface without giving php permissions to add users? I'm using apache, OpenSSH internal-sftp. I thought I should have a bash script that creates the user, and to have php executing the bash script, but apparently I shouldn't? I don't know what else I should do. |
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| 17:26.01 | jhutchins_wk | innociv: suexec |
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| 17:26.30 | LinuxApprentice | how can i tell if there is a firewall running ? i'm using debian squeeze |
| 17:26.35 | mitikoman | Hello |
| 17:26.42 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxApprentice: Did you set one up? |
| 17:26.42 | innociv | How does that help? |
| 17:26.56 | innociv | I need to make the users first. |
| 17:26.59 | mitikoman | I have beep sound but my media player's have not sound ? |
| 17:27.03 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: no, but eth0 has no external access through wlan0 |
| 17:27.05 | innociv | with the proper directories owned. |
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| 17:27.21 | jhutchins_wk | ... |
| 17:27.33 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxApprentice: That sounds correct to me. |
| 17:27.50 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: ? |
| 17:28.09 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxApprentice: Are you trying to route from your wired connection to your wireless or something? |
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| 17:28.49 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: yes, i have a pxe server setup but i can't continue with installation because eth0 has no external access |
| 17:29.15 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxApprentice: I |
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| 17:29.31 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: the server has two interfaces. wlan0 and eth0. server gets internet from isp on wlan0. client connects to server on eth0 |
| 17:30.07 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: client is getting an IP from the server but has not external access |
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| 17:30.18 | melik | babilen, those software are not in there |
| 17:30.25 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxApprentice: You have to set up ip forwarding via iptables: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ |
| 17:30.36 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxApprentice: Not simple, but not too hard. |
| 17:30.47 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: let me look at that.. |
| 17:30.57 | chomwitt | do i have to have installed a mail server in order for php to send email to a smtp server in lenny? |
| 17:32.37 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxApprentice: I will let you study that and work through it. |
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| 17:33.57 | babilen | melik: I am not sure which packages/applications are in Debian and which are not -- Please check yourself. |
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| 17:34.33 | ksk | chomwitt: you always have a mta installed on debian |
| 17:35.26 | ksk | try via "echo foo | mail -s foo your@mail.com" or something like that |
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| 17:35.48 | mitikoman | I use debian . and compile kernel-3.2.1 , in gnome I have beep sound but my media player's (mplayer , totem , vlc , ...) have not sound ! |
| 17:36.30 | jhutchins_wk | !tell mitikoman about alsa checklist |
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| 17:38.30 | no_gravity | Hello! Freshly installed debian today. With all your help! How do I install skype now? "apt-get install skype" doesnt work. |
| 17:38.45 | chomwitt | ksk: thanks. in my small lenny virtual server i dont see one. i guess i want a ligth one . |
| 17:39.09 | zykotick9 | !tell no_gravity about skype |
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| 17:39.31 | innociv | So how am I supposed to add sftp users from a php interface without giving php permissions to add users? I'm using apache, OpenSSH internal-sftp. I thought I should have a bash script that creates the user for each "host", and to have php executing the bash script, but apparently I shouldn't? I don't know what else I should do. |
| 17:39.48 | innociv | How should I be making users for sftp?... |
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| 17:40.03 | mitikoman | this command : aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav , receive this error : |
| 17:40.04 | mitikoman | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 17:40.04 | mitikoman | aplay: main:654: audio open error: No such file or directory |
| 17:40.07 | jhutchins_wk | innociv: That's not really a debian question, it's more of a php coding question. |
| 17:40.17 | jhutchins_wk | !tell innociv about free whcp |
| 17:40.18 | no_gravity | zykotick9: the alternatives mentioned by the bot, do they allow to call skype users? |
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| 17:40.40 | jhutchins_wk | innociv: You may find some methods in those packages. |
| 17:40.45 | zykotick9 | no_gravity: i highly doubt it (but i stopped using skype's service a while ago) |
| 17:40.52 | innociv | But I'm not makign the user with php. I don't want php to have access to those sorts of commands. |
| 17:41.02 | jhutchins_wk | no_gravity: Skype is still skype, that's why you have to get it from them. |
| 17:41.15 | no_gravity | ok. then i will put the skype deb into sources.lst |
| 17:41.29 | innociv | jhutchins, that has ftpd server support not sftp? |
| 17:41.46 | innociv | vsftpd and proftpd not sftp. |
| 17:41.50 | zykotick9 | no_gravity: just use "dpkg -i skypeFOO.deb", no need for adding to sources.list |
| 17:41.58 | mitikoman | hehe ... ! dpkg ask any questions ! :D |
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| 17:43.11 | no_gravity | zykotick9: is there a downside of adding to sources.lst? |
| 17:43.14 | zykotick9 | no_gravity: oh sorry, there is a repo - so your method is better (i didn't think there was one) |
| 17:43.19 | no_gravity | ok |
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| 17:43.37 | Kurara | Hi, I've got a problem, in gnome have told me to go here |
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| 17:44.13 | Kurara | I have system menu but It hasn't got preferences and I don know how to fix it |
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| 17:44.45 | sivsivrogo1 | how do i download multimedia extras for an install that i am doing later to put on a cd? |
| 17:45.19 | innociv | So, what now?... |
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| 17:47.21 | sivsivrogo1 | i mean what packages go into multimedia extras so i can download them for later |
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| 17:49.08 | zykotick9 | sivsivrogo1: are you using ubuntu or debian? multimedia-extras is an ubuntuism of sorts. debian has debian-multimedia which is a repo with various packages you might be interested in, I'm not sure how to put them on cd though. |
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| 17:49.46 | acu | how can I turn off syslogd messages ? |
| 17:50.46 | sivsivrogo1 | zykotick9, i am on debian wheezy, hm...thats good what you brought up; is ubuntu extras packages and debian multimedia packages have the same names titles or....??? |
| 17:51.58 | zykotick9 | sivsivrogo1: well, some are the same name (ie w32codecs/w64codecs) but there is no "*extras" in debian |
| 17:52.04 | acu | I have what it seem a faulty L2 memory on a Phenom - and the syslogd keeps beeping every few minutes - the computer is fine - I do not need the extra perfomrmance from L2 - any hint is appreciated |
| 17:52.55 | jhutchins_wk | innociv: I was suggesting that you study their code to see how they were doing it. |
| 17:53.09 | innociv | :\ |
| 17:53.37 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: i think that is a little much for me right now. how can i make the installer think the server is a ftp mirror ? |
| 17:53.38 | innociv | All I want to do is create a user under the "sftp" group, and usermod them to a dir. Lmao. :( |
| 17:53.44 | jhutchins_wk | innociv: Also, there's more than one there. |
| 17:53.44 | sivsivrogo1 | zykotick9, i know there is no extras in debian; i am on debian wheezy and install i am going to be doing is debian wheezy amd 64 |
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| 17:54.03 | innociv | I searched them all. None seem to be for sftp. |
| 17:54.15 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: i will just have ALL the files on the server so no external access is needed |
| 17:54.18 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxApprentice: Probably. See the ig regarding installing from local files. |
| 17:54.20 | joelio | Out of interest, how do people manage package building across a team of engineers. I'm in $NEW_JOB whereby we have a number of developers. I've already setup git hosting and a modicum of CI (jenkins). The next step is to automatically have the packages built (debian) and pushed to our custom repo. Any tips or technology that it pertinent? |
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| 17:54.52 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: ig? do u have a link? |
| 17:55.00 | jhutchins_wk | joelio: You might gently inquire of #debian-mentors |
| 17:55.11 | jhutchins_wk | joelio: That may be on oftc.net, not sure. |
| 17:55.13 | LinuxApprentice | oh the installation guide |
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| 17:55.15 | dondelelcaro | joelio: depends on how many packages and the complexity of dependencies |
| 17:55.22 | jhutchins_wk | !ig |
| 17:55.22 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
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| 17:55.33 | dondelelcaro | joelio: if it's simple, you can just use cowbuilder or similar with a few shell scripts feeding into your repository |
| 17:55.35 | joelio | dondelelcaro: Pretty comples media packages, gstreamer deps etc.. |
| 17:55.52 | dondelelcaro | joelio: if it's complex, then you may want to go with a complete wanna-build setup with dak |
| 17:56.04 | joelio | dak? new to me |
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| 17:56.43 | dondelelcaro | joelio: the main question is how fast do the dependencies change, how many packages you need to build, and how savvy the internal users of the packages are |
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| 17:57.52 | sivsivrogo1 | is there a debian wheezy distro with extras included distro outthere |
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| 17:58.09 | LinuxApprentice | jhutchins_wk: when i boot the installer what path does it look to on the mirros? |
| 17:58.11 | dondelelcaro | sivsivrogo1: "extras included"? |
| 17:58.14 | joelio | dondelelcaro: ah, that is the question. I think the packages are fairly volatile (R&D dept) but the users are savvy. I've setup reprepo but we'd like to automate out some if the package signing etc.. |
| 17:58.33 | sivsivrogo1 | dondelelcaro, i mean multimedia and firmware included |
| 17:58.39 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxApprentice: I have no idea, see the ig. |
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| 17:59.11 | jhutchins_wk | sivsivrogo1: Wheezy is testing, it is not a release yet. |
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| 18:01.29 | me-1 | hi..how can I write debian 6 on a usb flash drive..? |
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| 18:01.41 | jhutchins_wk | me-1: cat |
| 18:01.45 | mitikoman | How can change default sound card ? |
| 18:01.58 | jhutchins_wk | me-1: You want to install from the flash drive, or install to it? |
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| 18:02.43 | me-1 | jham, from it to hard disk as my cd rom is broken |
| 18:02.56 | jham | -.- |
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| 18:04.53 | jham | well, there are tons of hits if you google for "install debian from usb stick", actually |
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| 18:05.38 | jhutchins_wk | !tell me-1 about ig |
| 18:05.47 | jhutchins_wk | !tell me-1 about usb install |
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| 18:06.32 | jham | !tell jham about usb install |
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| 18:07.19 | sivsivrogo1 | how do you use apt-offline? |
| 18:07.35 | simonlnu | it's called a manual, read it |
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| 18:11.06 | zykotick9 | jham: to see a factoid yourself you can use "/msg dpkg foo" |
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| 18:11.27 | jham | zykotick9: alright |
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| 18:14.01 | ws2k3 | what is the most relayable way to check if a server is reachable over the internet? just ping? |
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| 18:17.09 | PhoenixSTF | ws2k3, ping, ssh, tracepath, telnet, ftp or whatever service you might have on the server |
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| 18:17.57 | jhutchins_wk | !tell jham about msg the bot |
| 18:18.07 | jhutchins_wk | jham: Oops, 'scuse. |
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| 18:18.49 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com |
| 18:18.59 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: Or set up nagios for long-term monitoring. |
| 18:19.09 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: What are you really trying to do? |
| 18:19.50 | ws2k3 | i have a vps |
| 18:20.08 | ws2k3 | and i have a couple of other servers |
| 18:20.21 | ws2k3 | u wanne make a python script that can check if they are online yes or no |
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| 18:20.32 | ws2k3 | and if they are down i which to recieve a e-mail the e-mail part i can build myself |
| 18:21.56 | llutz | ws2k3: ping -c2 host || mail -s "host down" you@example.com |
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| 18:22.20 | ws2k3 | and what does that do ? |
| 18:22.49 | llutz | ws2k3: "check if they are online yes or no and if they are down i which to recieve a e-mail " |
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| 18:23.26 | ws2k3 | can i also mail the ip adres ? |
| 18:23.35 | ws2k3 | so the host? |
| 18:23.42 | ws2k3 | maby make it a var in bash? |
| 18:23.43 | llutz | ws2k3: use as "host" whatever you want |
| 18:23.54 | ws2k3 | how u mean |
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| 18:24.24 | llutz | ws2k3: ping -c2 4.3.2.1 || mail -s "4.3.2.1 down" you@example.com |
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| 18:25.36 | yareckon | anyone know a good reminder app on linux or android that is open source? |
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| 18:26.35 | LinuxApprentice | if i add a rule to iptables do i have restart networking? or just the dhcp3 server? |
| 18:27.24 | ws2k3 | llutz c2 is just two times i assume? |
| 18:27.28 | ws2k3 | it does 2 pings |
| 18:27.33 | ws2k3 | but what if one fails and one is ok? |
| 18:27.35 | llutz | ws2k3: yes, "man ping" |
| 18:27.41 | ws2k3 | i know |
| 18:27.49 | ws2k3 | what if one fails and other is good? |
| 18:27.54 | ws2k3 | does it mail yes or no |
| 18:28.09 | llutz | no |
| 18:28.29 | ws2k3 | so only when all fails? |
| 18:28.44 | llutz | ws2k3: why should it? if the host is not down, it is ok |
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| 18:28.50 | ws2k3 | oke thx |
| 18:30.06 | llutz | ws2k3:just put it into a loop for all your hosts to check: for host in yourhost1 yourhost2 yourhost3 ; do ping -c2 $host || mail -s "$host down" you@example.com ; done |
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| 18:31.05 | bint | is it allowed to ask a basic question like: how can i move all folders in the folder content from /content/ to /newcontent/ |
| 18:31.09 | bint | or shall i google it |
| 18:31.15 | ws2k3 | mv |
| 18:31.18 | bint | yes but then |
| 18:31.22 | bint | mv -R or something |
| 18:31.25 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: Look into nagios. It's overkill, but it does the job right. |
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| 18:31.45 | jhutchins_wk | ping doesn't mean the http server is up. |
| 18:31.46 | bint | i just want the folders and files insite /content/ to be moved into /new content |
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| 18:32.44 | ws2k3 | thats true |
| 18:32.56 | ws2k3 | can nagios also mail for alert etc? |
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| 18:33.06 | ws2k3 | if http would be down? |
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| 18:33.19 | Hui_Nan | hi all |
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| 18:33.27 | jhutchins_wk | bint: I might use rsync for that. |
| 18:34.00 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: Nagios can email you, escalate to your phone/pager, set off physical alarms, whatever you want. |
| 18:34.28 | Hui_Nan | a long time ago I have seen a debian application - a kind of foreign language dictionary where every word is associated with an audio file |
| 18:34.30 | ws2k3 | is nagios free |
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| 18:34.37 | ws2k3 | ceause i see pricing etc |
| 18:35.00 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions nagios |
| 18:35.00 | Hui_Nan | could anyone remind me the name of that application? |
| 18:35.01 | judd | No package named 'nagios' was found in i386. |
| 18:35.43 | innociv | How do I make it so a user can run a bash script? I'm getting permission denied. |
| 18:35.44 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions nagios3 |
| 18:35.45 | judd | Package: nagios3 on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-4~lenny2; lenny-security: 3.0.6-4~lenny2; lenny-backports: 3.2.1-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.2.1-2; squeeze-backports: 3.2.3-3~bpo60+1; sid: 3.2.3-3+b2; wheezy: 3.2.3-3+b2 |
| 18:36.03 | ws2k3 | innociv give the user right tot he file |
| 18:36.04 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions icinga |
| 18:36.06 | judd | Package: icinga on i386 -- lenny-backports: 1.0.2-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.0.2-2; lenny-backports-sloppy: 1.5.1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze-backports: 1.6.1-2~bpo60+1; sid: 1.6.1-2; wheezy: 1.6.1-2 |
| 18:36.17 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: icinga is a fork of nagios. |
| 18:36.20 | innociv | In what way?? |
| 18:36.32 | ws2k3 | my english is bad what a fork |
| 18:36.39 | ws2k3 | is icinga free? |
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| 18:37.24 | zane | can someone tell me why 'route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0' outputs 'SIOCADDRT: no such proccess' ? |
| 18:37.43 | ws2k3 | i have to go now thanks for the information so far |
| 18:38.13 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: If it's in the Debian repos it's free. |
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| 18:38.21 | innociv | Do I add it in sudoers ro what?... |
| 18:38.48 | jhutchins_wk | Of course, niether one is "free" in terms of the time it takes to learn to set it up, but it's worth learning if you do this stuff seriously. |
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| 18:39.17 | jhutchins_wk | innociv: bash <path to file> |
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| 18:39.56 | jhutchins_wk | innociv: Alternatively, make sure the file has #! /bin/bash in the first line, chmod a+x <file>, <path to file> |
| 18:40.14 | bint | is it mv -t /content/ /newcontent/ |
| 18:40.34 | bint | so everyfolder oder file inside content will then be in /newcontent/ |
| 18:40.39 | bint | ? |
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| 18:40.52 | jhutchins_wk | bint: man mv? |
| 18:41.02 | bint | yes i just did it |
| 18:41.14 | bint | thats why i ask |
| 18:41.22 | innociv | Oh oops somehow it was root |
| 18:41.29 | ws2k3 | why should i use icinga then |
| 18:41.32 | ws2k3 | indead of nagios? |
| 18:41.35 | ws2k3 | instead |
| 18:41.41 | benpicco | I've seen gatling crash twice since yesterday with http://paste.pocoo.org/show/536341/ (sid), what could that be? |
| 18:43.27 | ws2k3 | jhutchins_wk so i can install nagios with apt-get? |
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| 18:44.18 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: aptitude install nagios3 |
| 18:44.28 | jhutchins_wk | benpicco: sid. |
| 18:44.56 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/NwUEsHJM Why would it say "usermod: command not found"? |
| 18:45.28 | valdyn | innociv: because /usr/sbin/ is not in your $PATH |
| 18:46.19 | innociv | in the users path that owns that script? |
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| 18:47.14 | whalesalad | Hey guys, a package I would like to install is in wheezy as well as sid, is there a fairly simple way to install this from one of those sources without also making those sources default for future installs? |
| 18:47.28 | whalesalad | "python-pyexiv2" is the package in question, fyi |
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| 18:48.05 | Kurara | hi! ^^ is there an option to go from gnome3 to gnome2?? |
| 18:48.15 | jhutchins_wk | !tell whalesalad about ssb |
| 18:48.19 | jhutchins_wk | !tell whalesalad about backports |
| 18:48.25 | jhutchins_wk | !tell whalesalad about frankendebian |
| 18:48.30 | innociv | What do I need to do to have $PATH set up right so the script can usermod? |
| 18:48.46 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions python-pyexiv2 |
| 18:48.46 | judd | Package: python-pyexiv2 on i386 -- lenny: 0.1.2-4+b1; squeeze: 0.1.3-6+b4; sid: 0.3.2-1; wheezy: 0.3.2-1 |
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| 18:49.10 | jhutchins_wk | whalesalad: I suspect the versions from sid and wheezy might not work with stable python. |
| 18:49.59 | whalesalad | hmm well I could always install this pig from source but it's a messy install |
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| 18:51.20 | jhutchins_wk | whalesalad: Again, newer versions probably want the whole python suite to be newer. |
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| 18:52.11 | whalesalad | surprisingly it requires 2.6 or greater, and 2.6.6 is what I got ;) |
| 18:53.03 | jhutchins_wk | ,checkbackport python-pyexiv2 |
| 18:53.04 | judd | Backporting package python-pyexiv2 in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
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| 18:53.17 | jhutchins_wk | whalesalad: There you go, ssb. |
| 18:53.53 | whalesalad | these handy irc commands are rad |
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| 18:54.50 | jhutchins_wk | Decent bots here, thanks to the maintainers. |
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| 19:04.01 | innociv | valdyn, can you clarify a bit more please? |
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| 19:07.09 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/NwUEsHJM how do I fix getting "usermod: command not found" on this? |
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| 19:08.05 | abrotman | use teh full path or execute it as root |
| 19:08.44 | bint | what happens exactly when i use: mv folder1/* folder2/* |
| 19:08.55 | bint | i wanted to copy everything from folder1 to folder2 |
| 19:09.04 | bint | now everything was gone :) but i coulda move it back |
| 19:09.17 | innociv | oh so /path/to/usermod? |
| 19:09.44 | innociv | How do I figure out what the path is? |
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| 19:12.50 | cardamon | I borked up a regex, and now I have a directory full of a thousand files beginning with ". " Can you guys help me get it right? rename -vn "s/^\.\ //g" ./* didn't show any results. |
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| 19:16.26 | jordanm | cardamon: for file in .\ *; do mv "$file" "${file##*. }"; done |
| 19:16.36 | jordanm | cardamon: that should do it if you just want to remove ". " |
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| 19:17.32 | cardamon | jordanm: I was really hoping to avoid a bash script. |
| 19:17.53 | jordanm | cardamon: that should work in a POSIX shell like dash |
| 19:17.57 | jordanm | let me test |
| 19:18.30 | xaashi | hi, does any one have a pointer to the syntax/values for grub kernel parameters, especially for the IP option .. i'm trying to pxeboot and the only help i;ve found so far is https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio#Using_net |
| 19:18.36 | cardamon | jordanm: Did I mention I have a thousand files like this? |
| 19:18.38 | jordanm | cardamon: yes, that one-liner is POSIX |
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| 19:18.58 | jordanm | cardamon: so? why is a perl better? |
| 19:19.39 | themill | cardamon: or change your rename command line to use .\ * |
| 19:19.57 | jordanm | cardamon: replace mv to echo to make sure it does what you want |
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| 19:20.13 | jordanm | doesn't condone perl usage |
| 19:20.42 | xaashi | or alternatively, anyone know why setting ip=dhcp for a multi-nic machine does not work (it's supposed to try all the interfaces). while setting a specific interface i,e, ip=eth0 : dhcp does |
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| 19:22.44 | cardamon | themill: I tried. |
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| 19:26.30 | cardamon | jordanm: Didn't work. That just echoed the same files with '##*. ' appended. |
| 19:27.19 | jordanm | cardamon: what shell? I tested it in bash and dash? |
| 19:27.24 | cardamon | bash |
| 19:27.36 | jordanm | cardamon: are you sure you copied exactly what I had? |
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| 19:28.52 | cardamon | woops. |
| 19:28.55 | cardamon | Missed a curly brace. |
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| 19:29.44 | jordanm | cardamon: make sure you don't miss the quotes |
| 19:30.14 | ro_70s | how can I make a change with xmodmap during startup but after gnome has finished making changes? It seems like gnome is changing things after my startup script |
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| 19:32.32 | jhutchins_wk | ro_70s: Things? |
| 19:32.49 | ro_70s | jhutchins: what things? |
| 19:33.21 | ro_70s | what is that? a spam response? |
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| 19:33.52 | innociv | How do I figure out what the path to usermod is? |
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| 19:34.08 | sivsivrogo1 | how do i delete permanently in debian ctrl+ delete is not working |
| 19:34.15 | ro_70s | innociv "which usermod" |
| 19:34.24 | Kurara | I have broken my debian, again |
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| 19:34.33 | innociv | /usr/sbin/usermod I found it... by looking by had. |
| 19:34.39 | innociv | There is more than one? |
| 19:34.49 | ro_70s | innociv: no I mean, ... that's the commmand |
| 19:34.55 | skrite | how can i tell what plugins or scripts i got when i installed weechat-plugins and weechat-scripts ? how do i set those up? |
| 19:34.56 | innociv | oh lmao |
| 19:35.04 | Kurara | I go thanks to all ^-^ |
| 19:35.05 | ro_70s | there's a nother "locate usermod" but that will give a lot of responses that aren't just programs |
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| 19:36.27 | sivsivrogo1 | i mean delete not working in nautilus |
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| 19:36.57 | babilen | sivsivrogo1: I assume that you are using Gnome and nautilus in particular. You can edit its preference to include a "Delete" command -- You can, naturally, also delete files on the command line with "rm" (read "man rm") |
| 19:37.11 | babilen | *preferences |
| 19:37.26 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/PJJacvVG gives me "useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later." |
| 19:37.36 | sivsivrogo1 | babilen, thanks i got it, its shift + delete i thought it was ctrl + delete |
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| 19:37.48 | babilen | sivsivrogo1: Or that :) |
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| 19:38.21 | acu | How can I silenced syslogd messages - they are popping every few minutes - I want to disable the messages I have what it seem a faulty L2 memory on a Phenom - and the syslogd keeps beeping every few minutes - the computer is fine - I do not need the extra performance from L2 - any hint is appreciated |
| 19:38.30 | ro_70s | innociv: try lsof | grep passwd |
| 19:38.44 | ro_70s | that should tell you what process is locking /etc/passwd |
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| 19:39.07 | jhutchins_wk | acu: How did you set it up to beep in the first place? |
| 19:39.25 | babilen | innociv: You probably want to use adduser and not useradd, but I am not entirely sure what you are doing and if those high level tools meet your needs. |
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| 19:39.53 | innociv | I'm trying to add a user for sftp.. |
| 19:39.58 | innociv | That's why the group is sftp. |
| 19:40.14 | innociv | ro_70s, that does nothing at all. |
| 19:40.44 | ro_70s | innociv: it should |
| 19:40.51 | innociv | I have a feeling the bash script itself is |
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| 19:41.37 | ro_70s | Please help with xmodmap and Gnome Startup -- https://gist.github.com/1628402 |
| 19:41.40 | shellox | hi |
| 19:41.51 | shellox | how to install gitweb, without installing apache? |
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| 19:42.27 | valdyn | shellox: install an alternate http server |
| 19:42.34 | innociv | babilen, if you have another suggestion it'd be nice |
| 19:42.37 | ro_70s | wonder why they have to break stupid crap like gnome startup |
| 19:42.43 | innociv | All I get is people telling me not to do something and not telling me how to do something better. |
| 19:43.05 | ro_70s | innociv well lsof lists applications that have files open, by filename |
| 19:43.06 | innociv | I'm trying to have a script that creates a user in the sftp group that php can execute. |
| 19:43.13 | ro_70s | if something was locking the file, it would appear in that list |
| 19:43.19 | ro_70s | if not, then nothing is locking the file |
| 19:43.22 | innociv | It doesn't give me any list. |
| 19:43.30 | ro_70s | and you should probably just try you script again now |
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| 19:44.12 | ro_70s | lsof = ls open files |
| 19:44.18 | ro_70s | get it? |
| 19:44.24 | innociv | Yeah I tried it 3 times, same error |
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| 19:44.46 | innociv | if I sudo the script it works |
| 19:45.05 | ro_70s | well in your script try doing the lsof | grep passwd in place of the egrep and see if it lists anything then |
| 19:45.11 | ro_70s | innociv that makes sense |
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| 19:45.19 | ro_70s | innociv: thought you were sudoing it anyway |
| 19:45.22 | innociv | How do I make it add a user without having to sudo? |
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| 19:45.28 | ro_70s | etc passwd doesnt give permission to read it |
| 19:45.37 | ro_70s | actually, even yusing sudo it should not work |
| 19:45.38 | innociv | I'm trying to have a script that php can execute without sudo. |
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| 19:45.53 | ro_70s | its a security error to have that file readable without changing the permission first .. |
| 19:46.03 | zykotick9 | innociv: you need sudo/root to create users |
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| 19:46.21 | ro_70s | php scripts should *definitely not* open /etc/passwd |
| 19:46.27 | Sebus | Seems like my problems from yesterday (crashed programs) were solved. They were caused by unlocked core. x[ |
| 19:46.49 | ro_70s | innociv: what are you trying to do with that file, just check if the user exists? |
| 19:47.55 | ro_70s | innociv use "id <username" instead |
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| 19:47.59 | Iridos | shellox, like any of the ones you get with aptitude search '?provides(httpd)' (should give 30 hits) |
| 19:48.03 | ro_70s | innociv that is not a security issue |
| 19:48.17 | ro_70s | please help https://gist.github.com/1628402 |
| 19:48.24 | ro_70s | looking for help on gnome |
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| 19:49.00 | Iridos | ro_70s, /etc/passwd is _always_ readable by everyone. if it isn't it's a bug |
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| 19:49.24 | babilen | ro_70s: Ok, I haven't tested your entire setup, but I like to point out that gdm3 (at least) takes care of Xmodmap if it is found. (see /etc/gdm3/Xsession) -- I've checked it on sid and you might want to take a look at that file on whatever Debian release you are tracking. I would furthermore recommend to also check the BTS for applicable bugs if your ~/.Xmodmap is *not* evaluated. Please note that gnome manages the keyboard via ... |
| 19:49.29 | ro_70s | Iridos: that's ... wait am I confusing passwd and the shadow password file? |
| 19:49.30 | babilen | ... gnome-settings-daemon and it might very well be that it overrides your settings. You might be able to configure this in the keyboard/layout specific settings in gnome-control-center |
| 19:49.37 | Iridos | ro_70s, you are |
| 19:49.42 | ro_70s | anyway .. he shouldnt be using that file |
| 19:49.47 | ro_70s | there's a command thats designed for his problem |
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| 19:49.49 | ro_70s | the id command |
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| 19:50.26 | ro_70s | babilen: thank you. Im reading your comment now |
| 19:50.31 | Iridos | uid --> name translation fails when /etc/passwd isn't readable for everyone, resulting in lots of breakage, so please don't suggest to anyone to make it readable by root only |
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| 19:50.54 | valdyn | mutt |
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| 19:51.06 | ro_70s | Iridos: I didnt suggest he change it at all man. you need to not jump in the middle of things because you are mistaken |
| 19:51.31 | Iridos | you must mean I need not jump into the middle of things because you are mistaken |
| 19:51.31 | ro_70s | Iridos: I suggested that he use the "id" command, because it was *designed to solve his problem* |
| 19:51.31 | Iridos | :D |
| 19:51.39 | Iridos | fairysnuff |
| 19:51.53 | Iridos | and there's getent to read passwd, too |
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| 19:52.07 | babilen | ro_70s: Please also start a small window manager (e.g. fluxbox started from gdm3) and check if it works there. If it does we know that gnome overrides your settings. |
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| 19:52.34 | dff | in the installation set up for debian, how to i UNSELECT from the software package menu |
| 19:53.01 | overclucker | dff: space? |
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| 19:53.06 | ro_70s | babilen: You would hope you could do that but it isnt an option in the settings manager |
| 19:53.13 | dff | overclucker: it wasnt esc or enter :D |
| 19:53.16 | dff | ill try space |
| 19:53.26 | dff | third times a charm |
| 19:53.46 | ro_70s | babilen: I am mostly interested in just working around the issue. IF gnome is changing the settings after it runs my startup applicaitons .. thats really a bug with gnome, and not your issue |
| 19:53.53 | ro_70s | but I should be able to work around it. |
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| 19:54.28 | ro_70s | like, since I can just run the command by hand after startup, maybe I can use the startup applicatiohn to *schedule* running the command after startup completes? |
| 19:55.04 | ro_70s | ** I mean not an issue for debian, .. I dont mean you I mean the debain community. everyone |
| 19:55.18 | babilen | innociv: Sorry for being so reluctant to help you, but I get the hibbie jibbies when I see PHP mentioned in the same sentence as system administration/security relevant tools/actions ... I am quite sure that there are better approaches to what you are doing, but I can't help you with php. I would be *very* cautious to run something like this on the internet in particular if it involves code written by yourself. |
| 19:56.11 | ro_70s | is there a way to do one-time commands say 1 minute in the future? |
| 19:56.16 | babilen | innociv: I guess that you might want to start a bit earlier and actually ask about something you really want to do, such as "I want to have a X that does Y and users should be able to register by Z" |
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| 19:56.43 | ro_70s | like .. "sched 1m <cmd>" |
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| 19:58.02 | babilen | ro_70s: "man at" -- I merely wanted to provide some further details and educated guesses. I don't have the time to investigate this in detail right now, but taking Gnome out of the equation is a good first step. |
| 19:58.13 | ro_70s | babilen: thank you bab :) |
| 19:58.21 | babilen | you are welcome |
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| 19:58.33 | Iridos | ro_... |
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| 19:59.59 | overclucker | sleep doesn't work? |
| 20:00.34 | fourlastor | what does it mean when i can found a package in squeeze, sid, but not wheezy? |
| 20:00.50 | Iridos | overclucker, perhaps he had too much coffee for sleep ;) |
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| 20:01.47 | Iridos | fourlastor, what package |
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| 20:02.08 | Iridos | could mean it was removed at some time and then introduced again |
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| 20:02.14 | Iridos | or something else unlikely |
| 20:02.14 | saedelaere | hi |
| 20:02.26 | themill | dpkg: tell fourlastor about cross-post |
| 20:02.49 | Iridos | that's why he never answered! |
| 20:02.51 | fourlastor | Iridos, http://packages.debian.org/sid/tangogps this one in this case, but i saw that it happens a lot (to have a package removed from only testing) |
| 20:03.20 | Iridos | judd, versions tangogps |
| 20:03.21 | judd | Package: tangogps on i386 -- lenny: 0.9.3-2lenny1; squeeze: 0.99.4+debian3-3 |
| 20:03.22 | saedelaere | i have debian squeeze installed on a vserver. very happy with my choice. on my private machine i am using archlinux and I make extensive use of sudo. is sudo a security issue on a server? |
| 20:03.24 | babilen | We are already fourlastor on OFTC -- Please ignore |
| 20:03.33 | babilen | *helping |
| 20:03.42 | Iridos | I don't see that in sid |
| 20:03.45 | Iridos | oh well |
| 20:03.47 | fourlastor | wait, is freenode and oftc the same channel? |
| 20:03.52 | fourlastor | or somewhat linked? |
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| 20:04.00 | fourlastor | then sorry, i wasn't aware of that ^^ |
| 20:04.20 | babilen | Iridos: It is not and has been obsoleted by foxtrotgps -- But lets keep it on OFTC |
| 20:04.32 | Iridos | babilen, I can't as I'm not on oftc :) but ok |
| 20:04.35 | themill | fourlastor: not linked, but that's what cross-posting means... otherwise it would be double posting. |
| 20:05.30 | babilen | fourlastor: Most regulars (modulo some people like Iridos) are on both networks and it really doesn't make sense to ask in both channels in particular when you already get help in one. |
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| 20:05.48 | fourlastor | ok then, got it, i'll stick on oftc |
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| 20:05.50 | fourlastor | :P |
| 20:05.51 | abrotman | and it makes baby jesus cry |
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| 20:07.14 | edju | my wireless isn't working. dhclient hangs on dhcpdiscover. route -n reveals a 169, , , destination for wlan0, and a 0. . . gateway. eth0 shows a 0. . . . destination and 192.168.1.254 (the router) gateway. google tells me that 169. . . is put there by zeroconf, or avahi, or something if that's correct, how to fix it? |
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| 20:09.29 | abrotman | edju: you fix your wireless .. did you try it without WEP/WPA ? |
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| 20:09.49 | np_complete | hi there, my felas... |
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| 20:16.29 | Iridos | edju, /sbin/iwconfig should show you if it's associated. not surprising at all nothing else works/looks as you describe if it's not associated |
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| 20:19.40 | zealiod | Im trying to get dnsmasq working on my lenny box, all configured… but my dhcp clients can't do an nslookup... can any one help? |
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| 20:20.04 | np_complete | hi, here comes my question, I got a i386 system with a mirror of both, i386 and amd64 binaries, I want to install some amd64 dev stuff in that same machine. so I can use it for compiling with "distccd", how to add amd64 to the sourceslist? |
| 20:20.26 | littlebit | hi people, |
| 20:20.37 | littlebit | i get funny messages when mounting my usb stick |
| 20:20.38 | littlebit | FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! |
| 20:21.04 | littlebit | i have only a console onto my system |
| 20:22.24 | innociv | babilen, well it's not really php at all. It's being able to add a user without sudo, or something. Or maybe having sudo in the absh script? I don't know |
| 20:22.34 | innociv | I need a script that can add a user without being run as sudo or something |
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| 20:22.45 | jordanm | cardamon: fixed up? |
| 20:22.57 | innociv | I'm avoiding giving php itself the permissions to run the adduser or useradd command |
| 20:23.19 | littlebit | can someone help |
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| 20:24.02 | innociv | Someone told me to have a bash script creating the user, but that doesn't seem possible with what what others are saying.. |
| 20:24.09 | jordanm | littlebit: does it actually contain files with utf8 in the name? |
| 20:24.11 | innociv | So, um... How can I automate creating users? |
| 20:24.36 | jordanm | innociv: useing useradd and chpasswd |
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| 20:24.46 | jordanm | what's the problem? |
| 20:24.51 | innociv | That's not automated |
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| 20:25.12 | jordanm | sure it is, but those commands in a script |
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| 20:25.20 | jordanm | s/but/put/ |
| 20:25.29 | jordanm | innociv: what is the problem? |
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| 20:26.42 | keith4 | if I have automount homedirs set up, with both NFS client and server using pam-ldap... but everything in my homedir shows up as uid/gid 4294967294... how badly have I screwed this up? ;-) |
| 20:26.42 | jordanm | innociv: how many users do you need to create? |
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| 20:27.55 | zach23 | my debian server reached a load of about 150.00 before we cold booted. we think it's NFS - are there nfs monitoring tools there and ones to break the link so other servers aren't caused hanging trying to connect? |
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| 20:28.08 | edju | sorry, got disconnected. |
| 20:28.08 | innociv | jordanm, that's what I did and the script can only run with sudo |
| 20:28.15 | edju | Iridos, i tried editing /etc/network/interfaces to add the wlan0 stiuff, but didn't work, either. |
| 20:28.18 | innociv | jordanm, a few a day |
| 20:28.19 | edju | abrotman, doesn't work w/o encryption, either. |
| 20:28.34 | littlebit | jordanm: no the stick is fat32 formated and does not contain any files |
| 20:28.50 | jordanm | innociv: ok, so you want to give non-root users write access to /etc/shadow. that is the real issue here? |
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| 20:29.13 | innociv | I don't know how to, I guess? |
| 20:29.40 | jordanm | innociv: and what is wrong with sudo? |
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| 20:30.16 | jordanm | innociv: use LDAP and the LDAP web interface |
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| 20:30.31 | innociv | In what way? |
| 20:30.31 | jordanm | innociv: I see that you actually don't want to me automated, rather, you want a different front-end |
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| 20:30.53 | jasox | I was wondering what gnome3 version is in debian sid |
| 20:31.01 | innociv | Yeah, I guess. I want, when someone makes a user, for it to create a linux user in the sftp group. |
| 20:31.04 | jordanm | jasox: packages.debian.org |
| 20:31.16 | jordanm | innociv: what is "it"? |
| 20:31.17 | babilen | innociv: Could you please tell us what you actually want to do? You have users "who want to do X by using Y on your infrastructure Z and you provide them with A, B and C" or something like that. |
| 20:31.25 | innociv | php is the front end. |
| 20:31.29 | jasox | thanks jordanm |
| 20:31.48 | littlebit | jordanm: im trying to make a multiboot usb |
| 20:31.54 | innociv | User submits something through php, and then I want a backend to create a user. |
| 20:31.58 | littlebit | jordnan: http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB |
| 20:32.01 | babilen | !tell jasox -about gnome3 |
| 20:32.07 | jordanm | innociv: and you understand that if this web application is ever compromised, it will comprimise root? |
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| 20:32.24 | innociv | Well I'm trying to avoid that. That's why I don't want php to have root access. |
| 20:32.34 | innociv | or php able to run useradd/adduser itself. |
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| 20:32.49 | innociv | I want it confined to just running a bash script that is harmless. |
| 20:32.52 | abrotman | edju: i'd figure out what's wrong with your driver |
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| 20:32.55 | jordanm | innociv: you don't need to. if php can write to /etc/shaddow or use commands that can set a password for any user, they can change root's password |
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| 20:33.27 | innociv | php executing a bash script that can set a password is the same as php being able to set a password? |
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| 20:33.54 | innociv | I can't just allow "php-user ALL=NOPASSWD: /path/to/createuser.sh"? |
| 20:34.18 | jordanm | innociv: sure |
| 20:34.37 | innociv | But you just said something contradictory, or am I confused? |
| 20:35.33 | edju | abrotman, the wireless driver - the athwhatever? |
| 20:35.56 | overclucker | innociv: you coauld try using a pam module with an htaccess. |
| 20:36.00 | abrotman | edju: i have no idea .. not my machine .. use 'dmesg' to get some hints |
| 20:36.16 | innociv | Not using apache. |
| 20:36.20 | innociv | lighttpd, php cgi. |
| 20:36.27 | overclucker | hmm |
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| 20:37.16 | Iridos | dpkg, tell edju about what's my wireless |
| 20:38.39 | innociv | So if I can allow a user to only sudo a bash file, but not sudo useradd or sudo adduser, then don't I just need a working bash script? |
| 20:38.48 | innociv | I don't think http://pastebin.com/PJJacvVG is really right.. |
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| 20:39.41 | edju | Iridos, No, no - iknow my wireless driver is ath5k - I meant is that the dirver abrotman was talking about. |
| 20:40.10 | abrotman | edju: yes .. |
| 20:40.18 | kreign | does anyone here have experience with gnome-screensaver not unlocking under debian 5? |
| 20:40.23 | abrotman | edju: how are you trying to setup your wifif? iunterfaces? networ-manager? |
| 20:40.31 | abrotman | kreign: capslock key! |
| 20:40.37 | overclucker | there are other pam modules like mysql and sqlite |
| 20:40.39 | abrotman | (or numlock of it's alaptop) |
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| 20:41.47 | kreign | abrotman, yeah. right. I've got about 100 machines running debian 5 with ldap authentication. identical package versions on down the stack (traced with ldd). About half can unlock; the other half can not. auth logs say nothing about an authentication failure, but gnome-screensaver does (and thus, doesn't unlock. |
| 20:41.53 | kreign | abrotman, that'd have been nice, though |
| 20:41.56 | edju | abrotman, wicd, but I've tried to connect manually too, still nogo. |
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| 20:43.06 | Iridos | that's a lot of caps-lock keys, then |
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| 20:43.32 | abrotman | kreign: that was sarcasm .. |
| 20:43.39 | kreign | Iridos, yeah, except it's not. I've tested it. |
| 20:43.47 | abrotman | kreign: checked the config files? |
| 20:43.49 | kreign | abrotman, is this a common problem? |
| 20:43.55 | kreign | abrotman, identical pam.d/* |
| 20:44.06 | abrotman | kreign: and identical /etc/ldap.conf or whatever file it is ? |
| 20:44.19 | abrotman | edju: okay .. |
| 20:45.19 | kreign | abrotman, yes, all identical. |
| 20:45.55 | kreign | the versions of packages deviate a bit in some cases, but for the most part they're all up-to-date 5.0.9 |
| 20:46.14 | shellox | how to install gitweb w/o getting a webserver as dependency? |
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| 20:46.24 | kreign | pam and ldap config files are all managed. |
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| 20:46.53 | jhutchins_wk | shellox: What would that accomplish? |
| 20:47.04 | edju | abrotman, what about route -n showing the wrong destination and gateway - might that be due to the driver? |
| 20:47.15 | shellox | jhutchins_wk: a system with the things i need? |
| 20:47.16 | Iridos | but it's really always the same machines where unlocking fails... |
| 20:47.24 | shellox | i already run nginx, so.. |
| 20:47.26 | Iridos | it's not just something that happens occationally everywhere |
| 20:49.35 | kreign | abrotman, guessing you've got no idea? |
| 20:49.44 | Sc0rian | hello i am having a e1000e driver problem, im trying to upgrade it to 1.9.5 version on sourceforge.. i have kenel headers installed but when i write make install i get errors |
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| 20:50.44 | abrotman | kreign: i've found the entire radius/ldap stuff to be poorly documented and more difficult than it needs to be |
| 20:50.56 | abrotman | edju: that's zeroconf |
| 20:51.08 | abrotman | kreign: especially the radius part |
| 20:51.41 | kreign | abrotman, heh like I said, I've got ldap working properly. it's -just- gnome-screensaver that bitches. |
| 20:51.45 | kreign | and only on some machines. |
| 20:51.54 | abrotman | kreign: anything to do with timeouts? |
| 20:51.56 | shellox | jhutchins_wk: it's a weird dependecy |
| 20:51.56 | edju | i thought so - i can't find how to disable it. |
| 20:52.08 | abrotman | edju: you shouldn't have to |
| 20:52.10 | kreign | abrotman, ldap timeouts? logs are good in that regard. nslcd is in use. |
| 20:52.29 | abrotman | kreign: can you ssh into the same machine and have ldap auth you correctly ? |
| 20:52.31 | kreign | abrotman, problem happens consistently on a machine. |
| 20:52.34 | edju | abrotman, or configure it. |
| 20:52.37 | kreign | abrotman, yep. |
| 20:52.45 | kreign | it's not user-transitory |
| 20:52.48 | abrotman | kreign: so it's a gnome problem ? |
| 20:52.58 | abrotman | kreign: tried to "switch user"s .. and see if that works ? |
| 20:53.13 | Iridos | kreign, what about xscreensaver or the like |
| 20:53.19 | abrotman | edju: put your ineterfaces file in a pastebin |
| 20:53.43 | Sc0rian | netdev.c: In function âe1000_runtime_resumeâ: |
| 20:53.48 | Sc0rian | why |
| 20:53.49 | Iridos | kreign, did you run gnome-screensaver with --debug? |
| 20:54.33 | kreign | Iridos, hmm I have not yet, no |
| 20:54.44 | kreign | if I can't unlock the screen, how do I get at the debug data? |
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| 20:55.05 | Iridos | kreign, huh? log in via ssh and kill the screensaver |
| 20:55.27 | kreign | fair enough |
| 20:55.33 | kreign | tiem for food i think. |
| 20:55.36 | shellox | anyone should add nginx to the meta package httpd on squeeze |
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| 20:56.19 | Iridos | or run it from within ssh in the first place (but that got more complicated, since gdm3 moved xauthority to some obscure place) |
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| 20:57.39 | kwame | Hi, while trying to update from stable to testing I'm getting this error --> http://pastebin.com/wg1L4sS4 |
| 20:57.44 | kwame | any idea on how to get around this? |
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| 20:58.01 | edju | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/6Rk2v7Ty |
| 20:58.01 | Iridos | shellox, it's not a meta-package and it is:Version: 0.7.67-3 Provides: httpd |
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| 20:58.07 | Iridos | judd, versions nginx |
| 20:58.08 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- lenny: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-backports: 0.7.67-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.7.67-3; squeeze-proposed-updates: 0.7.67-3+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1.1.8-2~bpo60+1; sid: 1.1.12-1; wheezy: 1.1.12-1 |
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| 20:58.56 | abrotman | edju: you're supposed to be testing without the WPA |
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| 21:00.13 | shellox | Iridos: ah, sorry then.. i forgot that this is from the nginx.org repo http://dpaste.com/689300/ |
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| 21:00.37 | Vespakoen | Hey there! i have this line in a /bin/sh script: $MYSQLDUMP --add-drop-database --opt --lock-all-tables --max_allowed_packet=500M -u $MUSER -p$MPASS -h $MHOST -P $MPORT $db | gzip > $FILE since the $FILE is on a mounted device, i need it to be writter there by root, or via sudo, how can i accieve this ? |
| 21:01.05 | Iridos | shellox, see, there lies your mistake :) |
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| 21:01.30 | shellox | Iridos: but the package maintainer could add the providing section, right? |
| 21:01.36 | jhutchins_wk | I need to decide what to do about my hosting soon. |
| 21:01.46 | jhutchins_wk | Erp, sorry, wrong window. |
| 21:01.48 | Vespakoen | i tried su -C gzip $FILE < "password" that didnt work |
| 21:02.41 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/PJJacvVG So erm, how can I get this bash script to work properly? It's my first attempt on anything like that. I think someone said the user checking doesn't work right? I'm trying to create a user, set their password, and have them be in the group sftp. |
| 21:02.43 | Iridos | why would a mounted device prevent you from writing to a file |
| 21:03.48 | Vespakoen | i tried making a dir via my personal account, that didnt work, only if i am root or do it via sudo i put files to the other machine |
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| 21:04.12 | Vespakoen | its a samba share, and its mounted via /etc/fstab btw |
| 21:04.41 | Vespakoen | its strange indeed but, i cant figure that out either |
| 21:05.06 | krondor | anyone familiar with debian 6 on sparc? I can't seem to boot from lvm kicks me to initramfs and then I vgchange -ay and it boots fine. |
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| 21:05.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps if i turn ssh and networking on can i still login to my boxes when i am in init 1?? |
| 21:05.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | turn them on for init 1 i mean |
| 21:06.11 | o_sanleis | hi alll |
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| 21:08.23 | dondelelcaro | Eryn_1983_FL: yes, but why would you want to? |
| 21:08.30 | jhutchins_wk | Iridos: WHat is your question in reference to? |
| 21:09.05 | jhutchins_wk | Eryn_1983_FL: That's pretty much contrary to the whole idea of how RL 1 is set up. |
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| 21:14.46 | Vespakoen | So, i mounted a samba share in /etc/fstab, when i cd to the mounted folder and make a dir, i get a permission denied error, however, when i do it as root, or via sudo, i can make the directory |
| 21:14.46 | OkweL | hello, i have some weird issue now, but i am not sure if this channel is best that can help me solve problem |
| 21:15.00 | Vespakoen | anybody know why it is happening or how to solve it ? |
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| 21:15.16 | Iridos | jhutchins_wk, was in regard to Vespakoens question |
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| 21:16.03 | OkweL | few hours ago i have used public proxy to access some website, then i turned it off in firefox but now i realized that it has changed somehow my dns's too so even if i check myself now on even simple whatismyip.com it shows me behind proxy ;/ |
| 21:16.13 | jhutchins_wk | Vespakoen: So your user doesn't have permissions to write to the directory. Root always does. |
| 21:16.26 | Vespakoen | true, i see the user and group of the mounted dir is root |
| 21:16.27 | OkweL | any idea how to fix that? i tryied to remove /etc/resolv.conf and then turning off eth0, then turning it back on |
| 21:16.27 | jhutchins_wk | Vespakoen: Do you manage the samba serer that's serving the share? |
| 21:16.34 | Vespakoen | so i wonder, how i can make that another user |
| 21:16.38 | edju | abrotman, OK. I uncommented everything but the passwd and tried again, still nogo. |
| 21:16.40 | Vespakoen | yes i do |
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| 21:17.01 | jhutchins_wk | Vespakoen: Read your samba docs on users and filemasks and perminssions then. |
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| 21:17.11 | jhutchins_wk | permissions. |
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| 21:17.18 | Vespakoen | okay, will do |
| 21:17.23 | talexb | Persimmons. |
| 21:17.29 | OkweL | if that can help anyhow, it's the latest debian stable build |
| 21:17.30 | Hurr|cane | hello |
| 21:17.44 | tgary | Hi! Is there an easy (recommended) way of installing java 7 (preferably oracle jdk) to Debian Squeeze? |
| 21:17.59 | Hurr|cane | need help to setup xorg on debian and star runlevel into x mode |
| 21:18.06 | Vespakoen | uid=?gid=? thanks mate! |
| 21:18.40 | talexb | tgary, Does apt-cache search jdk show you anything? |
| 21:18.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | jhutchins_wk: so i can admin my box from ssh |
| 21:19.10 | krondor | OkweL: did your proxy use a auto-configuration script or auto-detect settings when you applied it? |
| 21:19.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | jhutchins_wk: i want to shut down everything else that i dont need. so i can fsck my filesystems and other admin work |
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| 21:19.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | jhutchins_wk: is there a better way? I dont have a monitor for the node so.. |
| 21:19.35 | tgary | talexb: Yes, but only java6 things; no java 7. |
| 21:20.51 | jhutchins_wk | Eryn_1983_FL: Generally out-of-band consile access is what you'd really want, but you probably don't have access to that. |
| 21:21.07 | OkweL | krondor: i am not sure, i just typed proxy address and port in firefox settings window, and now i ended with whole system using it heh |
| 21:21.15 | jhutchins_wk | Eryn_1983_FL: I'm not sure networking is going to work with the drives mounted ro, |
| 21:21.18 | talexb | tgary, Sorry, I don't have anything to suggest. |
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| 21:21.43 | jhutchins_wk | Eryn_1983_FL: I usually do shutdown -Fr now with a local hand standing by. |
| 21:21.54 | OkweL | the weird thing is that even opera/chrome shows as behind proxy even that i never used them with any proxy ;s |
| 21:21.56 | iveqy | hi, I have debian lenny and can no longer start mysql |
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| 21:22.07 | OkweL | it is now like Your IP Address Is: 91.195.232.87 |
| 21:22.09 | OkweL | Possible Proxy Detected: 1.1 sq-4.core.lanet.net.pl:8080 (squid/2.7.STABLE3) |
| 21:22.14 | iveqy | /etc/init.d/mysql start results in Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
| 21:22.28 | iveqy | how to begin to looking for the error? |
| 21:22.30 | talexb | iveqy Don't keep us in suspense. What's the log say? |
| 21:22.32 | tgary | talexb: Ok, np. I thought that stable Java 7 is supported somehow in squeeze. (Backports, etc.) This way tar -xvzf java7 will be done. Thanks the help anyway. |
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| 21:23.28 | iveqy | /var/log/mysql.err is empty /var/log/mysql.log is empty |
| 21:23.30 | krondor | OkweL: Have you checked the Gnome proxy utility, or from a shell do you have http_proxy defined as an environment variable? |
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| 21:23.43 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/TAKMX136 why am I getting these errors? I'm trying to make a bash script that creates a user |
| 21:23.54 | iveqy | /var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.001684 does contain data, but in binary form... |
| 21:24.46 | abrotman | edju: did you turn off WPA ? |
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| 21:25.05 | edju | abrotman, yes. |
| 21:25.12 | iveqy | talexb: as I said above... |
| 21:25.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | jhutchins_wk: hmm ok |
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| 21:27.22 | abrotman | edju: okay .. so you changed your interfaces ? |
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| 21:27.50 | edju | abrotman, yes, uncommented all but the passwd line. |
| 21:27.53 | abrotman | edju: so, you'll paste it again ? |
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| 21:30.37 | Nathan|2 | hey guys... I'm install a server on a laptop with a broken screen... not a problem... until ssh shuts me out... |
| 21:30.58 | kreign | Nathan|2, ssh timeouts. |
| 21:31.07 | kreign | sshd and/or client config |
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| 21:31.48 | OkweL | krondor: gnome proxy is default, off |
| 21:31.54 | Nathan|2 | I've been all over google and tried adjusting it... even rebooting the server still results in a time out with either a pipe error and then a connection refusal... |
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| 21:32.57 | talexb | iveqy, If those ones are empty, there must be something somewhere else .. dmesg? |
| 21:33.01 | Nathan|2 | right... I was able to login about 30 seconds ago... I want to type a command and it gives me 'Write failed: Broken pipe' |
| 21:33.11 | kwame | hi, anybody would know how to get around this error when trying to move from stable to testing? -> Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgstreamer0.10-0'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
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| 21:34.00 | iveqy | talexb: I do get an error when trying to reinstall mysql that /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock is an invalid NFS-filehandle |
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| 21:34.12 | iveqy | and that can't be true... there's no NFS on that machine |
| 21:34.13 | edju | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/BtSztAcS -- maybe line 12 is wrong? |
| 21:34.40 | Nathan|2 | when I then try to connect it states ssh: connect to host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port 22: Connection refused |
| 21:36.04 | krondor | OkweL: Do you have another browser? Is it only Firefox using this proxy, what about wget? What does echo $http_proxy from shell show you? |
| 21:36.15 | pmade | How do I figure out why apt-get dist-upgrade is going to remove a package that was installed via backports? |
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| 21:36.38 | Nathan|2 | timeout has been reconfigure on both server and client according to google searches... |
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| 21:37.47 | OkweL | krondor: all browsers looks the same now, ff, opera, chrome, echo doesn't show anything |
| 21:37.47 | Iridos | there's autossh |
| 21:38.26 | Nathan|2 | Tridos, what can I do with that? |
| 21:38.28 | Iridos | Nathan|2, your problem isn't ssh timeouts, but whatever causes them... |
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| 21:38.44 | Iridos | nevermind... autossh just automatically reconnects on timeouts |
| 21:38.49 | Nathan|2 | Tridos, and how can I find out wots causing that? |
| 21:39.13 | Nathan|2 | kk, ofcourse... auto... |
| 21:39.31 | Iridos | guess it would help if you can connect a monitor... |
| 21:39.49 | Nathan|2 | the monitor works though... but it has a very big crack in it... |
| 21:39.58 | Nathan|2 | but I can make out about 60-75% |
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| 21:40.02 | Iridos | the only other options are netconsole or serial console... with some kind of question mark as to the usefulness of netconsole |
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| 21:40.40 | Iridos | Nathan|2, practically all laptops allow to connect an external monitor... |
| 21:40.54 | krondor | OkweL: is it possible you're behind a transparent proxy? Is that 99.whatever IP an exit point for your network. |
| 21:41.03 | Iridos | I dunno.... either you lose networking on the laptop altogether or sshd crashes |
| 21:41.14 | Nathan|2 | yes but then I need to have one... I'm working via ssh from my other laptop... |
| 21:41.29 | jbwiv | guys, I am trying to set a ulimit for open files to > 15,000,000. I've configured /etc/security/limits.conf for my user to "hard nofile 5000000000" and "soft nofile 5000000000", but when I try "ulimit -n <val>" where val is anything >5000000, I get " -su: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted". However, it works with "ulimit -n 5000000". is there something else I need to change to allow this? |
| 21:41.31 | Nathan|2 | I could check the network thing |
| 21:41.43 | OkweL | krondor: yeah, it is transparent, but does not belong to my isp |
| 21:42.23 | OkweL | by default i am directly connected without any proxy, and every ip-checker like whatismyip or x86.pl/ip/ shows that i am behind something now |
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| 21:42.57 | OkweL | i don't even use router |
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| 21:44.34 | diverdude | Is there a command that can extract a set of unique file-extensions in a directory? |
| 21:44.47 | krondor | OkweL: for it to be transparent means you are behind a firewall or otherwise that is handling your traffic on the handoff to a proxy. Short of moving your http/https traffic to another port (proxy/vpn/etc) you won't have much luck |
| 21:44.49 | Nathan|2 | funny, I'm running 'ping google.com' on the server, and suddenly ssh works again... |
| 21:45.05 | krondor | OkweL: It's not a system setting for proxy (if it is transparent) it's a function of your network |
| 21:45.52 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/TAKMX136 why am I getting these errors? I'm trying to make a bash script that creates a user |
| 21:46.02 | OkweL | hmm, but weird that untill today i didn't had such situations |
| 21:46.16 | OkweL | even whatismyip.com always showed directly my ip |
| 21:46.39 | OkweL | and just today after using for a while that public proxy from some uni ;/ |
| 21:46.47 | OkweL | well thanks anyways for hints |
| 21:46.55 | OkweL | i'll look into it tomorrow more |
| 21:47.02 | krondor | OkweL: no problem, good luck |
| 21:47.15 | OkweL | thanks :) |
| 21:48.25 | Nathan|2 | could that mean I need to run ping all the time? |
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| 21:50.47 | Owner_ | hrm, so openssl was just updated....hwo do i get the changelog |
| 21:50.50 | Owner_ | 0.98o |
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| 21:56.14 | davidgul | does it ok to have a VM of windows 7 runing on debian for 24/7 |
| 21:56.16 | davidgul | ? |
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| 21:56.37 | abrotman | edju: sorry, was doing work :) |
| 21:57.13 | abrotman | edju: and if you're not using WPA, line 12 is very wrong .. sohould be 'ssid<whatever it is>" |
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| 22:00.20 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/pqbdCVym So I run this bash script like that, and the test3 user exists, but when I try to log in with SFTP it says the password is wrong. |
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| 22:04.49 | zykotick9 | I'm not sure what I want to do is actually possible, so even a confirmation of that would be good. I have a very basic script, which I call from "xterm -e", http://paste.debian.net/152616/ that asks for a URL, then opens read URL in uzbl. Works fine, but ideally I'd like to be able to have the xterm window close after getting the input (why? I'm using Awesome WM if you're familiar). So far my nohup attempts have failed. |
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| 22:06.39 | edju | abrotman, still nada. hangs on DHCPDISCOVER to 255.255.255.255. route -n now lists only eth0. |
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| 22:07.00 | Iridos | zykotick9, just put "&" after the browser command? |
| 22:07.18 | ragnar | hey guys, has any of you tried to make a cronjob checker that checks if openvpn is rurunning, and if running, is working? |
| 22:07.21 | ragnar | e.g. has a connection |
| 22:07.23 | ragnar | and what not? |
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| 22:08.46 | zykotick9 | Iridos: I've tried with "nohup uzbl "$URL" & exit" without success, it's the xterm that's calling the script which stays open. |
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| 22:10.40 | lyrae | i'd like to add the debian testing repo. where do i find the ppa |
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| 22:12.40 | Iridos | zykotick9, closes fine for me... actually also closes the browser when xterm dies, though, but that's some problem... probably in bash that I see since squeeze with everything |
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| 22:15.55 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/pqbdCVym So I run this bash script like that, and the test3 user exists, but when I try to log in with SFTP it says the password is wrong. What might I be doing wrong? |
| 22:16.33 | zykotick9 | lyrae: PPAs are an ubuntuism. Mixing repos is generally not a great idea. |
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| 22:17.00 | lyrae | zykotick9, it'll just to test gtk3 |
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| 22:18.07 | zykotick9 | lyrae: that's a pretty big change i think. Well good luck, in answer to your question you add a testing repo to your sources.list - but again, this is a poor idea IMO (you'd be changing from stable to testing) |
| 22:18.21 | Iridos | zykotick9, and 'nohup uzbl "$URL" & sleep 1; exit' seems to just do what you want for me |
| 22:18.31 | lyrae | zykotick9, thanks for the tip |
| 22:19.27 | Iridos | and I'm not sure why I need the sleep... I think it's a race somehow |
| 22:19.50 | zykotick9 | Iridos: thanks you! it works. |
| 22:19.53 | Iridos | and I regard it as a bug that bash still sends a HUP to processes when it dies even with nohup enabled |
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| 22:20.26 | Iridos | I investigated that a bit... it's only there since squeeze... but when I compiled a bash without debian patches, the bug remained |
| 22:21.33 | Iridos | zykotick9, but your "nohup uzbl "$URL" & exit" also closes the xterm! it's the browser that dies with it because of the HUP-bug |
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| 22:23.05 | zykotick9 | Iridos: well, your method is working as expected. so i'm happy. thanks again. |
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| 22:32.07 | edju | am i still here? if anyone reads this, say -uhhh- "hootchiemama." |
| 22:32.37 | jhutchins_wk | edju: No, you have left and gone away, as I will do now. |
| 22:32.45 | Iridos | edju, no, you went to bed half an hour ago |
| 22:33.33 | edju | Iridos, i thought so! |
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| 22:34.27 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/pqbdCVym So I run this bash script like that, and the test3 user exists, but when I try to log in with SFTP it says the password is wrong. What might I be doing wrong? |
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| 22:35.30 | Some_Person | For some reason, b43 isn't loading on boot |
| 22:35.37 | Some_Person | How can I fix that? |
| 22:37.06 | zykotick9 | Some_Person: is b43 a kernel module? If so, see /etc/modules. |
| 22:37.20 | Some_Person | zykotick9: Yes, it is a kernel module |
| 22:37.38 | Some_Person | Thank you |
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| 22:44.11 | eshlox | hm, example, debian stable and i want uwsgi which is in sid, its possible install it from repository (add repo?) or only compile from sources? |
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| 22:44.25 | zykotick9 | !ssb |
| 22:44.25 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 22:44.34 | zykotick9 | eshlox: see above |
| 22:44.39 | geozapata | hello all... |
| 22:44.44 | eshlox | zykotick9: ok |
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| 22:45.45 | geozapata | just installed debian squeeze minimal instal, laptop, standard, lxde |
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| 22:46.31 | geozapata | wicd doesn't see any networks |
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| 22:46.54 | Mikaze | Anyone know what util can access the PNP port on a router to get the IP number from it? |
| 22:47.05 | geozapata | i googled like a mad man and tried so many "solutions" but nothing |
| 22:47.19 | timholum | Hello, I am not sure if what I am trying is possible, Or if I need to look for a different solution, But I would like to somehow pipe dd directly into a tar file, Instead of having to do "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/myfile && tar -czvf mybackup.tar.gz myfile", The reason I want it in a tar file instead of just doing "dd if=/dev/sda1| gzip > /media/myfile.gz" Is archivemount can mount it and give's me a directory with myfile |
| 22:47.19 | timholum | in it, which I can mount and recover data, Any idea's? ( Or need more explination as to what I am trying to do, I tend to not be very clear ) |
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| 22:48.42 | geozapata | anybody ?? |
| 22:48.53 | zykotick9 | timholum: i makes sense that you'd have to use dd then tar, unix-philosophy do 1 thing well & talk to other programs. Good luck. |
| 22:49.24 | nsadmin | , info wicd |
| 22:49.25 | judd | Package wicd (net, optional) in squeeze/i386: wired and wireless network manager - metapackage. Version: 1.7.0+ds1-5; Size: 39.9k; Installed: 88k; Homepage: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/wicd |
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| 22:50.18 | nsadmin | geozapata, take a look at the output of ifconfig -a |
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| 22:50.34 | Mikaze | wonders how to get the damned IP number off the router. |
| 22:50.40 | nsadmin | you'll see paragraphs and names... can you give the list of names? |
| 22:52.57 | geozapata | eth0, lo, pan0, wlan0... |
| 22:53.32 | nsadmin | ok, good :) it seems like the hardware driver is operating... and, let's do a test of that |
| 22:53.38 | nsadmin | try: iwlist scan |
| 22:54.07 | Mikaze | Bugrit. |
| 22:55.22 | Iridos | buggerem, buggerit, millenium hand and shrimp |
| 22:55.27 | geozapata | lo, eth0, pan0 = Interface doesn't support scanning, wlan0 = Interface doesn't support scanning: Network is down |
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| 22:56.50 | nsadmin | I take it you are looking at a root shell, and typing these things into it? |
| 22:57.08 | nsadmin | if so... due caution :) |
| 22:57.17 | geozapata | yes and i su'd to run the command |
| 22:57.18 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/pqbdCVym So I run this bash script like that, and the test3 user exists, but when I try to log in with SFTP it says the password is wrong. What might I be doing wrong? |
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| 22:57.28 | geozapata | i will thanks |
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| 22:58.40 | nsadmin | just to see... try: ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist scan wlan0 |
| 22:59.07 | geozapata | ok... |
| 22:59.32 | nsadmin | I'm on the edge of my knowledge here, so pretty soon you'll want someone who knows more |
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| 23:01.54 | abrotman | edju: figure it out (sorry was walking home) |
| 23:02.32 | geozapata | i get wlna0 with specs but also... iwlist: unknown cammand `wlan0' (check 'iwlist --help) |
| 23:02.38 | milligan | Can a poor driver cause my network card to drop packets and act unstable ? |
| 23:03.15 | abrotman | milligan: really? |
| 23:03.25 | geozapata | i appreciate your help nsadmin |
| 23:03.46 | milligan | abrotman, Like .. can a failing drive cause it to be unstable, or would it just not work at all ? |
| 23:04.04 | abrotman | drive or driver? |
| 23:04.31 | abrotman | milligan: can a poorly written program lose oyur data and crash ? |
| 23:06.25 | milligan | and how can I identify a driverproblem ? |
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| 23:06.39 | milligan | The card being 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06 |
| 23:07.44 | milligan | Guess this is my problem, http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2011/12/msg00063.html |
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| 23:08.23 | geozapata | need help getting wifi to work squeeze |
| 23:08.43 | abrotman | geozapata: i hope you have more details than that |
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| 23:09.14 | syn4pse | evening everybody |
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| 23:09.49 | geozapata | wireless card seems to be recognized but wicd report no network |
| 23:10.23 | abrotman | milligan: but that URL says it won't apply ? did you read the whole thread ? |
| 23:10.27 | syn4pse | geozapata, I had that issue before on a old backtrack verison i think it was 3 |
| 23:10.31 | abrotman | milligan: did you check your cable? |
| 23:10.38 | syn4pse | i simply opened a terminal and typed wicd which started the serivce |
| 23:10.41 | abrotman | geozapata: no network how ? |
| 23:10.44 | syn4pse | then i went to the menu and opened the gui |
| 23:11.10 | syn4pse | so basically the service was not runing properly |
| 23:11.12 | syn4pse | check it ;) |
| 23:11.48 | geozapata | i click refresh and ge no wirless networks found |
| 23:11.59 | milligan | abrotman, probably going to use an official driver or something. Just needed to confirm that there was actually a bug. Thanks for the sarcastic replies. |
| 23:12.24 | abrotman | geozapata: what is your wifi device? |
| 23:12.33 | geozapata | syn4pse i'll try that |
| 23:12.39 | abrotman | milligan: i was being serious about reading the whole thread |
| 23:12.55 | abrotman | milligan: i'm not sure if there's really an 'official' driver. Which kernel do you have now ? |
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| 23:12.59 | abrotman | milligan: uname -r |
| 23:13.12 | milligan | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 23:13.30 | abrotman | milligan: okay .. first step might be to try the .39 that's in backports.debian.org |
| 23:13.44 | abrotman | milligan: are oyu sure it's not a phyiscal problem or a switch problem ? |
| 23:13.54 | milligan | I'll try fixing the nic to 100mbit and disabling autonegotiation... |
| 23:13.58 | milligan | Yes, the hardware is fine |
| 23:14.26 | geozapata | Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG |
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| 23:14.53 | abrotman | geozapata: and you've installed the firmware? |
| 23:15.17 | abrotman | milligan: i've had issues where the cable seemed fine, but was actually the culprit .. anyway .. do you want to try the .39 kenrel ? |
| 23:16.05 | geozapata | didn't know i had to... how do i do that abrotman? |
| 23:16.16 | geozapata | thank you for you help btw |
| 23:16.32 | abrotman | dpkg: tell geozapata about ipw3945 |
| 23:17.36 | milligan | abrotman, appreciate the input. the box ran perfectly with ubuntu .. and the windows that's on the other hd has no problems.. I'm certain that hardware and switches are allright. I don't think I'm going to downgrade the kernel.. I'll look for some other solution :) Thanks for tips though |
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| 23:17.47 | abrotman | milligan: that'd be an *upgrade* |
| 23:17.52 | geozapata | is ipw3945 the firmware abrotman? |
| 23:17.56 | abrotman | milligan: you're on a .32 now .. you'd be going to .39 |
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| 23:18.10 | abrotman | geozapata: whatever the bot told you the package was .. yes |
| 23:18.43 | geozapata | just saw that thanks abrotman |
| 23:19.04 | abrotman | !tell milligan about bpo |
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| 23:19.19 | geozapata | syn4pse tried and didn't work but thanks for you help |
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| 23:32.29 | nsadmin | geozapata, hows it going |
| 23:32.32 | geozapata | abrotman installed the firmaware and my wifi light now turned on, but still no wifi? |
| 23:32.39 | Torne | is there a debian installer image that will boot on an i386 EFI machine? |
| 23:33.01 | abrotman | geozapata: you might want to reboot ? |
| 23:33.14 | nsadmin | see if iwlist scan works |
| 23:33.37 | geozapata | i did, thats when the wifi light came on |
| 23:33.57 | nsadmin | and still no scan results? |
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| 23:34.23 | nsadmin | if no results... try a reboot |
| 23:34.35 | geozapata | ok... |
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| 23:35.34 | nsadmin | I take it you're talking to us on a different machine? |
| 23:36.05 | geozapata | ok iwlist have results but none on wicd |
| 23:36.20 | geozapata | i am on a different machine |
| 23:36.28 | nsadmin | ok, so the firmware install had an effect |
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| 23:38.11 | abrotman | waits for the reboot |
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| 23:38.36 | nsadmin | wait, did you try rebooting yet? |
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| 23:39.42 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/pqbdCVym So I run this bash script like that, and the test3 user exists, but when I try to log in with SFTP it says the password is wrong. What might I be doing wrong? |
| 23:39.44 | geozapata | i did reboot after the firmware install |
| 23:39.55 | geozapata | should i reboot a second time? |
| 23:40.02 | nsadmin | oh ok, I thought that might be the case... |
| 23:40.07 | abrotman | geozapata: which WM are you using ? |
| 23:40.16 | geozapata | lxde |
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| 23:40.46 | abrotman | geozapata: dmesg | grep iwl .. see anything ? |
| 23:40.54 | abrotman | wonders if network-manager has taken over |
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| 23:41.43 | geozapata | i did have it installed but removed it as part of troubleshooting |
| 23:41.52 | knob | hello... basic question here: I install vsftpd in my Debian box. How do I 'create' an ftp account? |
| 23:42.32 | nsadmin | knob: grep ftp /etc/passwd |
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| 23:42.50 | nsadmin | don't paste that line, just tell if there is one |
| 23:43.06 | knob | Yes, there is one |
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| 23:43.10 | knob | ending with /false |
| 23:43.25 | dwfreed | innociv: because ARGV is an array reference, not an array |
| 23:43.25 | nsadmin | ok, so there is already an ftp acct |
| 23:43.43 | abrotman | nsadmin: maybe ... |
| 23:43.49 | geozapata | abrotman what in particular am i looking from from dmesg | grep iwl? |
| 23:43.52 | abrotman | knob: do you want your regular users to be able to FTP? or just a special user? |
| 23:43.56 | abrotman | geozapata: any errors |
| 23:43.56 | TheLifelessOne | I have a probably stupid question. I compiled a patch for libcairo on a virtual machine. If I copy those patched .deb files on a harddrive, can I then use them on a new system? |
| 23:44.10 | geozapata | none |
| 23:44.27 | knob | regular users |
| 23:44.27 | innociv | dwfreed, what do I need to change?... And it seems to actually create the user. Is it not getting the password then? |
| 23:44.27 | abrotman | knob: did you look at the vsftpd docs? |
| 23:44.38 | abrotman | knob: also consider using scp instead, far more secure |
| 23:44.54 | geozapata | is there any thing that i have to add in etc/network/interfaces? |
| 23:45.04 | dwfreed | innociv: it's getting an incorrect password; one sec, while I fiddle with perl (I kind of remember how to dereference array references) |
| 23:45.06 | nsadmin | trad. ftp is not at all secure |
| 23:45.13 | innociv | k |
| 23:45.29 | knob | Can I apt-get scp , and install even though vsftpd is installed? Or will there be conflicts? |
| 23:45.53 | abrotman | knob: it's part of the openssh-server you already have installed |
| 23:45.59 | innociv | dwfreed I did echo "$username $password" and it says "test3 pass3"... |
| 23:46.07 | nsadmin | geozapata, you -could- bypass wicd for the moment and add a stanza for wlan0 |
| 23:46.34 | knob | Ok, sorry for the n00b questions: Should the instructions on how to add ftp accounts be in the scp documentation? |
| 23:46.36 | nsadmin | then put the ssid and pass in that file |
| 23:46.42 | dwfreed | innociv: the issue is that $ARGV[0] is not what $password is set to |
| 23:46.42 | abrotman | knob: scp and ftp are different |
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| 23:46.50 | knob | oh |
| 23:47.01 | innociv | 1 is... |
| 23:47.12 | geozapata | nsadmin how? |
| 23:47.14 | innociv | Why does it echo back fine? |
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| 23:47.22 | nsadmin | one sec |
| 23:47.23 | innociv | OH |
| 23:47.23 | innociv | oops |
| 23:47.27 | geozapata | ok |
| 23:47.30 | themill | innociv: that script as pastebinned wouldn't set the variables username and password |
| 23:47.49 | innociv | I should be doing crypt($password... |
| 23:48.02 | innociv | why does it then, themill? |
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| 23:49.15 | themill | when I look at the previous version you pastebinned, I can see the errors where it does not... |
| 23:49.51 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/6UPwWHT0 eh yeah i'm confused. |
| 23:50.04 | innociv | How come when I do echo "$username $password" it says test3 pass3?... |
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| 23:50.21 | innociv | If you just do the first 5 lines. |
| 23:50.27 | themill | that's not what you pastebinned earlier... |
| 23:50.53 | innociv | Oops wrong link |
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| 23:50.57 | innociv | On that one |
| 23:51.14 | innociv | Anyway, I'm getting wrong password for the new one when trying to log in. |
| 23:51.45 | nsadmin | geozapata, take a look at this: http://pastebin.com/jNPncJ4V |
| 23:51.59 | geozapata | ok |
| 23:52.12 | nsadmin | my wireless is eth1, but yours is wlan0 |
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| 23:52.26 | nsadmin | notice the whole thing is commented |
| 23:52.59 | geozapata | ok |
| 23:53.06 | dwfreed | innociv: use mkpasswd instead; also keep in mind that while the command is executing, the password is visible to anybody logged in to the machine |
| 23:53.08 | nsadmin | you would put something like that in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:53.09 | geozapata | ill try that |
| 23:53.11 | themill | innociv: did you say you were going to put this on a web server that allowed people to upload files in shared hosting? |
| 23:53.20 | abrotman | isn't that also for WPA ? |
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| 23:53.20 | innociv | Yes |
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| 23:53.44 | themill | innociv: and are you planning to allow php or python or perl scripts to be uploaded? |
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| 23:54.01 | ageis | where do i get apxs? |
| 23:54.04 | nsadmin | I don't have the wpa/wep thing straight in my mind... what would I read up on |
| 23:54.11 | innociv | Yes, runnign on a user that doensn't have permission to run this bash |
| 23:54.25 | dwfreed | innociv: you're also going to want the salt to be random; you can read 8 bytes from /dev/random |
| 23:54.39 | themill | innociv: but on the same box? |
| 23:54.44 | innociv | Yes. |
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| 23:54.58 | themill | innociv: so anyone can steal the password at account creation time... |
| 23:55.14 | innociv | Can't I only allow them to use sftp commands and not any ssh ones?... |
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| 23:55.27 | themill | innociv: if they can upload php scripts... |
| 23:55.35 | innociv | What would the php script do?... |
| 23:55.44 | ageis | anyone have any idea where i can get apxs? |
| 23:55.53 | innociv | They don't get to set their own php.ini. |
| 23:55.59 | geozapata | msadmin so should i leave it all commented? |
| 23:56.13 | innociv | And they are chrooted. |
| 23:56.15 | themill | innociv: umm... the php script only needs to look at the process list to grab the password |
| 23:56.21 | nsadmin | so if you keep using that, then every time you move, you would have to iwlist scan, pick which net, put its ssid in the interfaces file, get the key from the net's owner, put that in interfaces, save the file, exit, then do ifup wlan0 |
| 23:56.24 | innociv | It can do that when chrooted? |
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| 23:56.33 | themill | sure |
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| 23:56.38 | innociv | Wtf. How do I stop that? |
| 23:56.42 | nsadmin | you would uncomment it, and then additionally uncomment the key line |
| 23:57.06 | themill | innociv: perhaps now you understand why people told you that this was not a good route to follow? |
| 23:57.17 | innociv | People only tell me what not to do |
| 23:57.21 | innociv | Won't help me do it correctly. |
| 23:57.24 | geozapata | is there an alternative to wicd in lxde? |
| 23:57.44 | innociv | Even if I add the user manually, can they not see that in the process list? |
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| 23:58.08 | themill | innociv: the username is not important; you're putting the password on the process list. |
| 23:58.19 | innociv | How do I not? |
| 23:58.21 | nsadmin | the only two alternatives I know of are nm and editing /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 23:59.00 | themill | And let's not ask if you're sanitising the username and password properly. Are you going to prevent passwords with ; | & ' " in them? |
| 23:59.09 | geozapata | i'm gonna give nm a shot but i would have to remove wicd correct? |
| 23:59.10 | nsadmin | if the interfaces way works for you, you can then work on getting the other stuff going |
| 23:59.30 | innociv | How would someone log into an account when they don't know the password because the password is random? |
| 23:59.31 | nsadmin | or keep using interfaces |
| 23:59.33 | nsadmin | no |
| 23:59.38 | nsadmin | you don't have to remove it |
| 23:59.50 | innociv | themill, i was going to escape them |