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| 00:13.02 | gnat_x | i'm using gpg-agent... and for some reason there are what looks like two identical processes -- one started right after the other. is that to be expected, or did i somehow double it up in my config? |
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| 00:20.40 | avallark | hello all :) |
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| 00:21.20 | avallark | too early in the morning for you all? :)) |
| 00:21.59 | gele | gnat_x: forks get the same process name as their parents. is one indented one level if you run 'ps -H'. |
| 00:22.03 | gele | ? |
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| 00:34.24 | boudiccas | i have a program that monitors any new programs that i install and changes that are made in /etc. how can i find what the program is please so that i can remove it? |
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| 00:36.52 | Juv1228 | hello, im trying to package some stuff here, and would like to know, is there any easy way to make sure only one package providing a virtual package is installed? |
| 00:38.12 | gnat_x | gele: actually looking closer at the output, /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemo... and /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon - |
| 00:38.26 | gnat_x | so it looks like one is being started by ssh-agen? |
| 00:38.29 | gnat_x | agent |
| 00:38.50 | gele | gnat_x: then they are different processes. one ssh-agent and one gpg-agent. |
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| 00:39.10 | gnat_x | right. |
| 00:39.29 | gnat_x | that makes sense i suppose. |
| 00:39.31 | gnat_x | thanks! |
| 00:39.48 | gnat_x | wouldn't have noticed that without asking a dumb question. :) |
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| 00:40.24 | gnat_x | boudiccas: etckeeper? |
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| 00:40.43 | boudiccas | could be, thanks |
| 00:40.57 | gnat_x | boudiccas: apt-cache show etckeeper |
| 00:41.52 | gnat_x | (or aptitude search etckeeper ) |
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| 00:43.20 | boudiccas | gnat_x; thanks, that was it and its now removed |
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| 00:44.02 | gnat_x | that package is awesome imho. it'll keep you from hosing your configs. |
| 00:44.16 | gnat_x | (since it keeps a full git repo of etc) |
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| 00:49.00 | nze | how can i shrink a raid partition? i managed to shrink the filesystem on it and used mdadm to resize it accordingly, but the partition table hasn't changed |
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| 00:53.12 | nutron | I'd like to use a new issue tracker in the oss realm. My internal users get confounded by mantis. Anyone have a good recommendation for a web based bug/issue tracker that's... simpler? =) |
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| 01:00.27 | gnarface | nutron: simpler than mantis? sheesh you're in trouble if they're that fucking dumb. i can think of a handful of alternatives off the top of my head (trac and bugzilla come to mind) but as for being *simpler*... i got nothing. |
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| 01:10.23 | teratoma | this might be a stupid question but what consumes less power: running gnome with compiz and all of the opengl stuff or running gnome with metacity ? |
| 01:10.51 | Knorre | my guess would be metacity |
| 01:11.03 | gnarface | teratoma: probably depends on whether metacity uses your graphics core or not too. |
| 01:11.19 | teratoma | how can i tell? |
| 01:11.22 | gnarface | teratoma: lighting up the hardware opengl accelerator on your video card will have a large impact in power usage |
| 01:11.35 | teratoma | higher or lower ? |
| 01:11.38 | gnarface | higher |
| 01:11.39 | gnarface | much higher |
| 01:11.48 | gnarface | you will be able to tell just by how much heat its putting out |
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| 01:12.12 | gnarface | hint: fans start spinning faster/louder and the machine gets noticably warmer == you're sucking more electricity through it |
| 01:12.30 | teratoma | so using the hardware accelerator consumes more power ? |
| 01:12.35 | gnarface | fuck yes |
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| 01:13.05 | gnarface | the question is whether metacity uses it too or not. if there is compositing in metacity now (i don't know) then they could be about equal |
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| 01:13.50 | boudiccas | ,versions backupninja |
| 01:13.52 | judd | Package: backupninja on i386 -- lenny: 0.9.6-4; lenny-backports: 0.9.8.1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.9.8.1-1; sid: 0.9.10-1; wheezy: 0.9.10-1 |
| 01:14.05 | teratoma | hard for me to tell. no change in machine load. might be a little warmer? |
| 01:14.33 | gnarface | teratoma: it should get noticably warmer after a few minutes |
| 01:14.37 | gnarface | teratoma: spin the cube a bit |
| 01:15.01 | teratoma | i cant get control alt arrow key to switch workspaces to work |
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| 01:15.48 | gnarface | teratoma: YMMV but for examle on my machine, lighting up the opengl hardware on the video card and taking the cpu out of low-power mode can almost double my power consumption |
| 01:16.15 | gnarface | (from around 205W to 386W) |
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| 01:17.39 | gnarface | teratoma: if its a desktop you might need some sort of power usage meter on the outlet (i have one built into my UPS) but it its a laptop you may want to just measure battery life at a full charge to see if it makes enough of a difference for you to care |
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| 01:23.04 | gnarface | teratoma: other things that suck down lots of power: flash, wireless networking, cooling fans, harddrive traffic |
| 01:23.52 | teratoma | you mean 'being on'? |
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| 01:24.59 | gnarface | pretty much but it won't be linear power usage necessarily - on most modern machines as it gets hotter (when because your'e consuming more power) the fans will start to spin faster to counteract the heating, which will in turn cause them to draw more power, magnifying the power usage of the whole system. |
| 01:26.18 | gnarface | same with wireless networking - a ON wifi device draws more power than an OFF one, but not nearly as much so as one that's you're currently saturating by downloading the latest full DVD set of debian (for example) |
| 01:27.22 | gnarface | wifi devices (any radio transmitter) are somewhat unique in how much power they draw for how few transistors they have, but don't underestimate the sheer cost of moving parts |
| 01:28.53 | gnarface | and by flash i didn't mean like flash media i meant like Adobe Flash (for some reason that plugin chews up so much video card horsepower it takes a rather large dent out of your available battery life - hence apple refusing to put it on their mobile devices) |
| 01:30.18 | gnarface | so if you want longer travel life do things like shut off the wifi when its not in use, and have the harddrive sleep when it can, and have the cpu+gpu go into low power mode as much as possible (which will help keep the fans moving slower too) |
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| 01:31.18 | gnarface | laptops don't tend to have a lot of fans |
| 01:31.25 | gnarface | a gaming rig might have 12 though |
| 01:31.29 | gnarface | that adds up |
| 01:31.58 | gnarface | !acpi |
| 01:31.59 | dpkg | Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) is a power management interface that gives more control to the BIOS, or horribly horribly broken, or "run this arbitrary code in ring 0", or generally better than <APM>. For a list of supported systems/BIOSes, see http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/acpi/ . See also <acpid>, <suspend>. |
| 01:32.25 | gnarface | hmm. |
| 01:32.26 | gnarface | !cpufreq |
| 01:32.27 | dpkg | The Linux kernel CPUfreq subsystem supports frequency scaling on mobile (and some desktop) x86, PowerPC and ARM processors. It provides an interface for throttling processor speed, to save power when the system is idle. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#cpufreq . See also <speedstep>, <coolnquiet>, <power saving>. |
| 01:32.49 | gnarface | teratoma: these might be useful to look into if you haven't ^^^^^^ |
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| 01:33.51 | gnarface | teratoma: if the video card is a newer amd or nvidia one they often can have their gpu modes changed too with a proprietary app distributed by the vendors |
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| 01:37.20 | nutron | gnarface: heh, I know. They are somewhat daft, but due to mantis being "too complex" for them to use I get nothing reported, and/or I find little notes on my desk/emails. Fossil looks like maybe something maleable enough to modify to "dumb" it down. |
| 01:38.20 | gnarface | nutron: you're at the point where i'd consider just making my own. maybe something like a 1-page web form that requires all fields to be filled out and then just emails me the submission |
| 01:39.35 | gnarface | nutron: in the past i've even seen mediawiki used to track issues - users just edited the page |
| 01:39.47 | gnarface | nutron: kinda dumb that way though |
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| 01:42.34 | nutron | Yeah, I like to track stupidity and love being able to assign issues to others. |
| 01:43.29 | boudiccas | what is "Akonaditray" please? i've tried apt-cache show but it doesnt show what it is |
| 01:43.58 | nutron | Rolling my own sounds like an option if I had the time. And then.. I'd spend so much time trying to perfect it that I may as well use a pre-made deal. I've actually considered debbugs since it's email based... though I haven't really delved into that one as much as I'd like. |
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| 01:45.36 | gnarface | nutron: sometimes "to hard" is just code for "its ugly and i don't like it so i refuse to bother touching it and will claim its because i'm too dumb" - maybe you just need something with a bit more elegant looking of an interface - not necessarily materially easier. |
| 01:47.13 | innociv | How do I figure out how to generate a debian password outside of debian? I'm trying to do it in php. sha512 hash doesn't seem to produce the same result... |
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| 01:47.30 | innociv | Ah wait this is $1$.. |
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| 01:48.18 | innociv | .It looks like root is sha512 but others are md5 |
| 01:48.41 | phil28 | Hi! How do I check the values or the possible parameters of a module loaded by modprobe? modinfo only lists the possible params |
| 01:48.46 | innociv | Nope. Doesn't match. |
| 01:48.50 | nutron | gnarface: yes indeed, that is certainly how I understand it, coming up with something |
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| 01:49.41 | nutron | "easier", may consist of interface, and simply dumbing down the fields ie: build/version number ... shit they don't seem to grasp, even though it's in their face 100% of the time. |
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| 01:55.16 | gnarface | i wonder if trac is themeable |
| 01:55.35 | gnarface | pretty colors can go a long way |
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| 02:17.56 | nutron | Indeed, I really think I'm hooped and will have to code my own. That's ok, I have an internal customer/sales/contact management tool I wrote I could graft it into. Ugh, more work =) |
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| 02:39.47 | jkyle | is it possible to run java web start sessions in iceweasel? *.jnlp files |
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| 02:40.52 | LinuxApprentice | what cmd can i use to see information about the ram in my system? such as type, max supported and such.... |
| 02:41.44 | jkyle | LinuxApprentice: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 02:42.08 | jkyle | LinuxApprentice: man proc, it's much more than just that |
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| 02:44.47 | LinuxApprentice | dmidecode is not working |
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| 02:45.00 | LinuxApprentice | or is it wrong? what is it |
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| 03:03.53 | rainfyre | can someone explain to me how to accurately set my system time? I'm getting an error when I try to run Tor that my system time is incorrect |
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| 03:05.59 | jkyle | rainfyre: date |
| 03:06.15 | jkyle | and then use ntp |
| 03:06.55 | jkyle | or, I guess, just install ntp :P |
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| 03:08.16 | rainfyre | yeah, my time and date are correct, I think Tor is screwy |
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| 03:10.06 | simonlnu | LinuxApprentice: run it as root.. |
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| 03:17.13 | jasox | I am new in debian, I was wondering what is better for desktop user, debian testing or sid. |
| 03:17.41 | karlpinc | jasox: Neither. We recommend stable. |
| 03:17.45 | karlpinc | !moving target |
| 03:17.45 | dpkg | Sure, testing might be shinier than stable, but are you prepared to be continually updating your system? Things that worked today will break tomorrow. Configuration file formats will change and you'll have to fold your changes in yet again. Testing is a moving target and if you'd rather work *with* your computer than working *on* your computer, you might not want that. See <testing security>. |
| 03:17.46 | jasox | New I am running debian testing and have problem with fglrx. |
| 03:18.09 | karlpinc | jasox: Then you want #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
| 03:18.30 | jasox | It is invite only channel |
| 03:18.32 | karlpinc | jasox: Since you're new you might be interested in the following factoid/url. |
| 03:18.42 | karlpinc | !tell jasox about overview |
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| 03:19.17 | karlpinc | jasox: No it's not. I'm in it and I didn't get invited. You're probably on the wrong server. |
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| 03:19.59 | jasox | oh tnx karlpinc |
| 03:20.08 | rainfyre | but testing is pretty.. |
| 03:20.09 | karlpinc | jasox: Somebody might be able to help here, but maybe not. |
| 03:20.17 | karlpinc | !sns |
| 03:20.18 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 03:21.04 | jasox | :D |
| 03:21.05 | karlpinc | Nothing wrong with playing with your system. But if you want to _use_ your system to do something then stable is most often the best choice. |
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| 03:21.24 | LinuxApprentice | can i use IRda to connect to a wireless signal from a laptop a few feet away? |
| 03:21.34 | jasox | I have sns, damn |
| 03:21.47 | karlpinc | jasox: It's hard to avoid. :) |
| 03:21.57 | p0g0_ | it's treatable, but not curable... |
| 03:22.13 | karlpinc | LinuxApprentice: I thought that irda was infrared. But that could be completely wrong. |
| 03:22.28 | jasox | p0g0_, :D |
| 03:23.06 | LinuxApprentice | karlpinc: it is. i am under the assumption you can, but i don't know much about it. just found out this laptop has it. |
| 03:23.22 | jasox | I just configured my gnome3, it is most beautiful and useful DE I ever used. I never want to leave it. |
| 03:23.27 | p0g0_ | LinuxApprentice: the CM17a (a cheezy X10 310 MHz $5.00 radio does that). See bottlerocket. |
| 03:23.48 | LinuxApprentice | p0g0_: google 'bottlerocket' ? |
| 03:24.09 | LinuxApprentice | jasox: i love gnome3! puts the win7 de to utter shame. |
| 03:24.15 | karlpinc | LinuxApprentice: I've no clue what the bandwidth is. I always thought it was for TV remotes, wireless keyboards, and so forth. |
| 03:24.31 | LinuxApprentice | karlpinc: 4MB/sec in fast mode |
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| 03:24.42 | karlpinc | LinuxApprentice: MB or Mb? |
| 03:24.43 | p0g0_ | LinuxApprentice: it's one of the X10 family of products, an open loop rf controller, it uses an IRDA(like) metohod to modulate at 310MHz. |
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| 03:24.48 | LinuxApprentice | karlpinc: MB |
| 03:24.53 | karlpinc | LinuxApprentice: Nice. |
| 03:24.54 | sosofes | !sns |
| 03:24.54 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 03:25.06 | karlpinc | !tell sosofes about msg the bot |
| 03:25.15 | sosofes | !ssb |
| 03:25.16 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 03:25.21 | LinuxApprentice | karlpinc: it's an old dell latitude c610. pentium 3 |
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| 03:26.22 | p0g0_ | LinuxApprentice: for sure, the CM17A doesn't do anything fast. |
| 03:27.06 | LinuxApprentice | p0g0_: i'm not trying to do automation. wanna see if i can connect to a wi-fi signal using this IRda-port |
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| 03:30.11 | p0g0_ | LinuxApprentice: I'd say no. Is the AP's radio on the same band/channel, most are 2.4 ot 5.x GHz. Wifi is mostly a flavor of the 802.11 spec, using a channel slicing ODFM, which is unlike the full channel FSK/IRDA stuff. |
| 03:30.59 | LinuxApprentice | p0g0_: oh ok |
| 03:31.54 | karlpinc | p0g0_: I bet somebody's hacked up ppp over irda, but that's a guess. |
| 03:31.54 | sosofes | I find Debian squeeze very unstable! |
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| 03:32.10 | p0g0_ | If it's anywhere, I'd guess it's most like 802.11b at 1 Mhz. Oh yeah, serial fore sure. |
| 03:32.53 | sosofes | Comparing Squeeze to lenny, it seems squeeze is just shiny shit |
| 03:33.15 | karlpinc | !tell sosofes about doesn't work |
| 03:33.25 | anno_ | Like what for example ? |
| 03:33.51 | sosofes | the X freezes quite often |
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| 03:34.17 | karlpinc | sosofes: That's strange. What does the log say? |
| 03:34.21 | sosofes | and i have to unplug to rebbot again |
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| 03:34.57 | sosofes | i tested it on dell latitude D600 and intel pc |
| 03:35.04 | LinuxApprentice | sosofes: i'm using squeeze and it's VERY stable. haven't had 1 problem with it |
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| 03:35.16 | jasox | Is there list of active debian channels, I tried few and they all was inactive :S |
| 03:35.18 | LinuxApprentice | on a dell latitude c610 |
| 03:35.26 | sosofes | in fact i tested it on 2 pcs |
| 03:35.32 | anno_ | Well...I just fully updated my squeeze install on a Compaq armada m300...a 12 year old laptop |
| 03:35.36 | LinuxApprentice | sosofes: u did something wrong, 2 times |
| 03:35.37 | sosofes | my sister's hp pc |
| 03:35.44 | sosofes | and my wifes ibm pc |
| 03:36.10 | karlpinc | sosofes: Did you install it or upgrade? |
| 03:36.13 | LinuxApprentice | i used ubuntu for over a year then moved to debian |
| 03:36.14 | sosofes | no, lenny works very well on these |
| 03:36.23 | LinuxApprentice | sosofes: then use lenny |
| 03:36.38 | anno_ | ....lenny has another year huh? |
| 03:36.43 | karlpinc | LinuxApprentice: No, don't tell people that. It's going out of security support. |
| 03:36.51 | sosofes | yes, it's very stable |
| 03:36.53 | LinuxApprentice | karlpinc: oh, lol. sorry |
| 03:37.11 | LinuxApprentice | karlpinc: how long will squeeze have security support ? |
| 03:37.17 | sosofes | but then i thought it's a good security measure to use latest distro |
| 03:37.19 | anno_ | move the ols suff...to the back of the store... |
| 03:37.27 | LinuxApprentice | i'm hoping to have it on this laptop for a loooooooong time |
| 03:37.27 | anno_ | old* |
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| 03:37.57 | LinuxApprentice | i like debian squeeze so much i am going to put it on my p4 extreme shuttlebox |
| 03:38.09 | anno_ | 2 years foe squeeze I think |
| 03:38.14 | LinuxApprentice | when i can get it mailed here... |
| 03:38.16 | sosofes | it turns out that most window managers freeze on squeeze except fluxbox |
| 03:38.29 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: 2 years, nice |
| 03:38.39 | sosofes | it's strange u folks have no issues with squeeze |
| 03:38.44 | sosofes | :D |
| 03:38.54 | anno_ | maybe squeeze is more resource hungry than lenny |
| 03:38.55 | karlpinc | sosofes: What does the log say? Have you filed a bug report? |
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| 03:39.13 | LinuxApprentice | sosofes: yes, check syslog viewer |
| 03:39.14 | anno_ | but Im on an ols box ...running smooth |
| 03:39.21 | anno_ | old * |
| 03:39.21 | luser | how do i escape dependancy hell? |
| 03:39.33 | LinuxApprentice | luser: repent! |
| 03:39.52 | luser | LinuxApprentice: i've done this; it did't work. |
| 03:39.55 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: how old? specs? |
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| 03:40.10 | anno_ | way old |
| 03:40.16 | anno_ | way way |
| 03:40.17 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: cpu ? ram ? |
| 03:40.23 | anno_ | yes |
| 03:40.24 | karlpinc | luser: You use only debian repos and the debian package management system. See footnote 1 of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware |
| 03:40.40 | anno_ | cpu 500 mhz |
| 03:40.46 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: pentium 2? |
| 03:40.48 | anno_ | ram 320 mb |
| 03:40.59 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: you have more ram than i do.....for now |
| 03:41.03 | anno_ | P3 |
| 03:41.19 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: my p3 is 1ghz when on ac power |
| 03:41.20 | anno_ | what do you drive LA? |
| 03:41.41 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: drive? my vehicle? |
| 03:41.57 | anno_ | computer....! |
| 03:42.07 | luser | is the wiki just really slow? |
| 03:42.13 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: what do you mean? what do i drive?? |
| 03:42.13 | anno_ | I wuz being cute |
| 03:42.15 | karlpinc | luser: Possibly. |
| 03:42.20 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: oh... |
| 03:42.41 | anno_ | What is your computer rammage ? |
| 03:42.50 | anno_ | make ? |
| 03:43.01 | LinuxApprentice | dell latitude c610 |
| 03:43.05 | anno_ | I'm on a Compaq armada m300 |
| 03:43.06 | LinuxApprentice | 256MB |
| 03:43.18 | karlpinc | anno_: I've found that I prefer lxde when using limited ram. |
| 03:43.26 | anno_ | more processor...less ram than I |
| 03:43.31 | LinuxApprentice | i'm going to upgrade it to 1gb, it's max. hoping that will give me better performance with gnome 2.x |
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| 03:44.03 | anno_ | I GB will fly |
| 03:44.17 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: will only cost me $40 bucks to do that |
| 03:44.22 | karlpinc | LinuxApprentice: More ram is always better. (I've 1G ram and it works fine, although a faster cpu.) |
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| 03:44.44 | LinuxApprentice | karlpinc: what kind of cpu are you running ? |
| 03:44.46 | anno_ | Thats ok..... |
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| 03:45.05 | sosofes | not yet, i was soooo annoyed, i couldnt think about filing bug reports |
| 03:45.05 | sosofes | i've used etch, then moved to lenny, everything was fine |
| 03:45.05 | sosofes | but when squeeze came, nothing seems to work |
| 03:45.05 | sosofes | i upgraded from etch to lenny for improved ntfs and utf8 filesystem support |
| 03:45.05 | sosofes | squeeze brought many good innovations but it suscks |
| 03:45.06 | sosofes | it freezes |
| 03:45.06 | sosofes | sucks |
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| 03:45.08 | anno_ | 40 bucks will change the game... |
| 03:45.11 | LinuxApprentice | LOL |
| 03:45.17 | LinuxApprentice | too funny |
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| 03:45.33 | karlpinc | LinuxApprentice: Lots. Mostly |
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| 03:45.43 | karlpinc | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz for my desktop. |
| 03:45.52 | wipt_ | I screwed up my X11 config trying to get the ATI drivers running, and I really don't need 3D support - how should I go back to debians default config for X11? After that, I just need to get it to recognize that the screen is 1080p :P |
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| 03:46.03 | sosofes | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.03 | sosofes | but when squeeze came, nothing seems to work |
| 03:46.04 | sosofes | i upgraded from etch to lenny for improved ntfs and utf8 filesystem support |
| 03:46.04 | LinuxApprentice | karlpinc: i have the extreme edition in my shuttlebox. |
| 03:46.16 | LinuxApprentice | sosofes: pastie.org |
| 03:46.18 | LinuxApprentice | lol |
| 03:46.22 | karlpinc | sosofes: Did you follow the release notes to upgrade? |
| 03:46.56 | wipt_ | I screwed up my X11 config trying to get the ATI drivers running, and I really don't need 3D support - how should I go back to debians default config for X11? After that, I just need to get it to recognize that the screen is 1080p :P |
| 03:47.02 | sosofes | karlpinc: : yes, of course, i tried both upgrade and fresh install |
| 03:47.03 | anno_ | I always do a fresh install |
| 03:47.11 | wipt_ | wait, my bad, already said that :P |
| 03:47.15 | LinuxApprentice | yes yes. fresh install is good |
| 03:47.18 | anno_ | destroy all my data ..and start fresh |
| 03:47.19 | sosofes | karlpinc: it's strange u dont have same issues |
| 03:47.26 | karlpinc | sosofes: And what do the logs say? |
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| 03:47.39 | LinuxApprentice | i shouldn't have to reinstall another os on this laptop or upgrade |
| 03:47.52 | LinuxApprentice | debian has a 40GB house! |
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| 03:47.53 | sosofes | karlpinc: i didnt check, i was soo annoyed that i gave up |
| 03:48.08 | anno_ | nice size floorplan... |
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| 03:48.56 | anno_ | I'm in a 10Gb bachelor |
| 03:49.11 | sosofes | LinuxApprentice: it seems newer kernels and X than those of lenny are buguous |
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| 03:49.19 | LinuxApprentice | 10gb ? |
| 03:49.27 | LinuxApprentice | that's an apartment |
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| 03:49.34 | karlpinc | sosofes: Well if you want help here you'll have to give people the information they ask for. |
| 03:49.40 | anno_ | I just updated the kernel...lsat update |
| 03:49.45 | anno_ | last* |
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| 03:50.49 | LinuxApprentice | bogus? if you say soooooo |
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| 03:51.40 | karlpinc | LinuxApprentice: You'll have to upgrade a year after wheezy becomes stable -- or have an insecure system. |
| 03:51.51 | karlpinc | LinuxApprentice: Don't forget to follow the release notes. |
| 03:52.07 | LinuxApprentice | karlpinc: hmmmm |
| 03:52.09 | luser | why does aptitude keep suggesting packages to be removed, yet never installs what i want? |
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| 03:52.29 | teratoma | why would i occasionally be able to connect to a starbucks free wifi access point with wifi-radar, but never ever with wicd or network manager? |
| 03:52.35 | anno_ | I still have a laptop that runs windows 95 with a wirelss pc card internet access |
| 03:52.52 | karlpinc | luser: Have you done an 'aptitude update' lately? Have you put bogus stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 03:53.32 | luser | yes and i hope not |
| 03:54.04 | sosofes | karlpinc:are u using squeeze? honestly, have u ever experienced ur gnome ur whatever window mnagare freezing? |
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| 03:54.14 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: they make wireless drivers for w95? |
| 03:54.40 | anno_ | orinoco...netgear ma401,,,,Belkin |
| 03:54.54 | LinuxApprentice | sosofes: gnome has never freezed on me |
| 03:55.40 | anno_ | LinuxA..I just hang on to it for a kick...no reason...but I did get XChat running on it |
| 03:55.41 | karlpinc | sosofes: No, never had a problem. |
| 03:55.52 | karlpinc | sosofes: Perhaps you need non-free firmware? |
| 03:56.16 | karlpinc | sosofes: But that's a total guess. You need to get someone to help you diagnose the real problem. |
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| 03:56.22 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: a kick, that's for sure. i would be aghast it the w95 boot screen appeared on my monitor |
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| 03:56.53 | anno_ | win95 is where I started...so.. |
| 03:57.37 | sosofes | karlpinc: i'm using integrated intel graphics cards |
| 03:57.59 | karlpinc | sosofes: Something else might be locking things up. |
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| 03:59.16 | anno_ | Sure..I'll boot into anything once... |
| 03:59.19 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: i started on win98 and 2000 |
| 03:59.23 | sosofes | karlpinc: i'm using normal mouse and keyboard, but at some point during minimizing or clozing windows, the X freezes, so i've had to unplug the power |
| 03:59.50 | grayghost | I have an error message "Could not apply changes! |
| 03:59.50 | grayghost | Fix broken packages first." How do I fix it ??? |
| 03:59.53 | anno_ | LinuxA...then you graduated to Linux...he |
| 04:00.19 | karlpinc | sosofes: Can you ssh in? Can you get console on ctrl-alt-f1? What does dmesg say? What do the X logs say? Tell us and we might be able to help. |
| 04:00.21 | LinuxApprentice | anno_: yeah, i'm trying to learn c and python so... |
| 04:00.33 | sosofes | grayghost: apt-get -f install |
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| 04:00.46 | LinuxApprentice | cackles |
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| 04:01.01 | grayghost | I tried .... no joy . |
| 04:01.06 | anno_ | IAre you kidding? |
| 04:01.08 | luser | fsck that command. it doesnt work |
| 04:01.36 | sosofes | grayghost: check ur /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 04:02.02 | LinuxApprentice | do any of you have problems with torrents starting in transmission? is transmission a good torrent program or should i install deluge ? |
| 04:02.19 | luser | checking something doesn't help you dont know what to look for... |
| 04:02.46 | anno_ | Transmission works on all linux distros I use |
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| 04:03.03 | luser | trasmission failed the one time i tried it |
| 04:03.21 | anno_ | puppy mint deb.....never a problem |
| 04:03.34 | luser | technology hates me ='( |
| 04:03.44 | grayghost | I have recently set to testing and did an update |
| 04:04.10 | grayghost | the update downloaded and gave me that message |
| 04:04.15 | vrai | Transmission always worked well for me. No fails. |
| 04:04.23 | anno_ | I even use it on triple boot setup and completed a torrent download between each os on the same box |
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| 04:05.00 | LinuxApprentice | vrai: what would cause it to not start a torrent. even on torrents with hundreds of seeders.... |
| 04:05.11 | LinuxApprentice | 'tracker did not respond' |
| 04:05.21 | anno_ | maybe your port selection...firewalll etc |
| 04:05.46 | LinuxApprentice | it's port 80 so.... |
| 04:05.49 | LinuxApprentice | should work |
| 04:06.20 | LinuxApprentice | the port is closed for incoming connections ? |
| 04:06.29 | LinuxApprentice | or is that just for me seeding? |
| 04:06.39 | LinuxApprentice | i shouldn't need that port open to dl. it was working before |
| 04:06.44 | luser | does torrenting over port 80 help in any way? |
| 04:06.50 | anno_ | are the torrent file and the target file on the same partition ? |
| 04:08.23 | LinuxApprentice | i'm trying to leech not seed. |
| 04:09.00 | anno_ | ya gotta do both.......same time |
| 04:09.01 | vrai | I thought Transmission used port 53*** or 54*** |
| 04:10.07 | anno_ | 51*** on mine |
| 04:10.20 | LinuxApprentice | i'm going to try deluge(d) |
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| 04:10.35 | teratoma | maybe you're blocked on port 80! |
| 04:11.28 | LinuxApprentice | it's weird, was working a few days ago |
| 04:11.42 | LinuxApprentice | i have had problems before with transmission though... |
| 04:12.11 | anno_ | uninstall and reinstall it.....you know like... |
| 04:12.43 | anno_ | could be a ram issue.... |
| 04:12.48 | vrai | 51413 is the default but anything between 49152 and 65535 will do |
| 04:12.53 | teratoma | could be cosmic rays |
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| 04:13.43 | vrai | LinuxApprentice: is it with any torrent or just one in particular? |
| 04:13.53 | LinuxApprentice | vrai: any torrent |
| 04:14.16 | LinuxApprentice | see! now the download has started in 'deluge-console' |
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| 04:14.30 | LinuxApprentice | i didn't change any options in transmission either |
| 04:14.50 | teratoma | delete your transmission preferences, start over |
| 04:15.16 | LinuxApprentice | .transmission/xxxxx.conf ? |
| 04:15.25 | teratoma | rm -rf .config/transmission |
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| 04:17.29 | LinuxApprentice | done, i will try transmission again later on and see if it works |
| 04:17.47 | LinuxApprentice | moonlight sonata! |
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| 04:19.01 | bfig | hello. whenever i turn vlc player on and try to watch something i instantly log out of my user. why could this happen? |
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| 04:21.09 | ninjer | can someone help me stop my box from committing suicide? |
| 04:21.14 | LinuxApprentice | bfig: are you using proprietary drivers? |
| 04:22.00 | bfig | LinuxApprentice, yes, fglxr |
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| 04:23.14 | bfig | LinuxApprentice, what do i need to do to get it working? |
| 04:24.29 | anno_ | ninjer: talk to it with a caring , concerned tone... |
| 04:24.34 | jasox | bfig, i have same problem |
| 04:24.50 | jasox | bfig, are you running debian testing |
| 04:24.59 | bfig | jasox, squeeze |
| 04:26.45 | LinuxApprentice | bfig: stop using fglxr |
| 04:26.45 | LinuxApprentice | jasox: are u using fglxr? |
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| 04:27.04 | jasox | yes |
| 04:27.16 | jasox | I need it for game |
| 04:27.50 | bfig | LinuxApprentice, i had no option, otherwise i couldn't use kernel 3.1, consequently i couldn't install i can't remember what |
| 04:27.56 | jasox | I will try without fglrx, I home so fps won't fail a lot. |
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| 04:28.13 | LinuxApprentice | jasox: what game? |
| 04:28.24 | jasox | cube 2 sauerbraten |
| 04:28.36 | LinuxApprentice | bfig: what is in 3.1 that your interested in? are you on squeeze? |
| 04:28.45 | LinuxApprentice | jasox: never heard of it |
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| 04:29.07 | LinuxApprentice | jasox: there is an open-source drive u can try |
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| 04:29.11 | jasox | yes |
| 04:29.21 | jasox | it is pretty good. :D |
| 04:29.23 | jasox | fps |
| 04:29.25 | LinuxApprentice | jasox: xorg-video-ati i think ? |
| 04:29.25 | LinuxApprentice | or something |
| 04:29.28 | bfig | LinuxApprentice, i can't remember, but there was something. |
| 04:29.42 | LinuxApprentice | jasox: u already switched drivers? |
| 04:29.50 | bfig | ie, something that i use and otherwise couldn't because of that |
| 04:29.51 | LinuxApprentice | bfig: are u on squeeze? |
| 04:29.54 | bfig | yes |
| 04:30.26 | LinuxApprentice | bfig: how did u get 3.1 ? |
| 04:31.38 | bfig | LinuxApprentice, i installed 2.6 from the xfce +... cd download, then added the testing repos, downloaded the appropriate packages |
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| 04:33.33 | anno_ | Does the kernel 3 need testing updates? |
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| 04:34.28 | bfig | dunno |
| 04:38.00 | wipt_ | hmm, reinstalled xorg, X11 is starting again. I can't get it to change the resolution. If I try moving xorg.conf to /etc/X11/, X11 segfaults... |
| 04:38.05 | verboze | hello, how do I make my username able to shutdown and restart from gnome3 menu ? i only have log off and switch user menu .. is this normal ? |
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| 04:39.05 | wipt_ | verboze, Have you tried googling? You might try changing permissions on "halt" or "shutdown" |
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| 04:40.16 | anno_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.32 | verboze | ah permission, thanks wipt_, working on it :), and yes, googled it, but maybe my keywords was too long or not good enough to point my problem |
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| 04:43.10 | rikkimaru | i'm having some issues with dpkg, and I'm trying to learn more about how it works... |
| 04:43.20 | rikkimaru | Can someone tell me where dpkg stores the scripts it runs when i run dpkg --configure man-db |
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| 04:49.44 | nutron | what's a decent file manager for X? I'm having problems with xfe, pcmanfm seems too dumbed down, any recommendations? |
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| 04:50.46 | poplockndropit | hi |
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| 05:10.25 | anno_ | nutron: Are you running Xfce ? |
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| 05:13.32 | IncogDroid | Just curious what happened to the standard 686 |
| 05:14.58 | IncogDroid | All I see now is 486 and 686-PAE |
| 05:15.53 | wipt__ | nutron, rox-filer is really nice imo |
| 05:16.19 | wipt__ | though, it's getting dated... and don't think it's been maintained in 7 years... |
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| 05:18.08 | zykotick9 | !tell IncogDroid about 686-pae |
| 05:19.00 | IncogDroid | I know what 686-PAE is |
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| 05:19.33 | zykotick9 | IncogDroid: that factoid explains what happened... |
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| 05:21.20 | IncogDroid | Yea that's what I read on a thread |
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| 05:22.50 | IncogDroid | Oh well fires that means I use the 486 now |
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| 05:31.30 | krish | hi guys, do I have to install all build deps of a source, before Ican package it to a deb |
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| 05:34.00 | lstarnes | krish: yes, or it can't be built |
| 05:34.13 | lstarnes | krish: you can remove them after you build it though |
| 05:34.24 | krish | oh ok.. that works for me then :) ... thks |
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| 05:40.24 | iateadonut | is there a graphical network manager for debian? |
| 05:40.57 | dvs | ,versions gnome-network-manager |
| 05:40.59 | judd | No package named 'gnome-network-manager' was found in i386. |
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| 05:41.52 | iateadonut | also, i'm trying to dual boot mandriva/debian with the same /home directory. the username/id on both systems is the same; both use fluxbox, but when i mount the /home directory i use for mandriva to debian, and type 'startx', it tells me there's something with the XServer - i didn't know this was configured in a home directory, though - any clues on what to do first? |
| 05:41.59 | nutron | anno_: nah, I ditched xfce after ditching gnome... fluxbox for me now. |
| 05:42.06 | Some_Person | Well dang, I just had a kernel panic |
| 05:43.32 | Some_Person | Unfortunately, I have no clue what caused it |
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| 05:44.01 | IncogDroid | May I asked why you ditched xfce |
| 05:44.18 | skilz_ | fluxbox rocks! |
| 05:44.43 | dvs | !start a wm war |
| 05:44.44 | dpkg | emacs sucks! |
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| 05:45.06 | iluminator101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.07 | IncogDroid | I use openbox but was just curious out something happened |
| 05:45.11 | Some_Person | DE wars never end well |
| 05:45.27 | IncogDroid | Lol |
| 05:45.33 | iateadonut | did anyone answer me between 12:46:02 and 12:45:57? |
| 05:45.44 | iateadonut | 12:46:57, rather |
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| 05:46.37 | skilz_ | nutron: my fluxbox http://ompldr.org/vY2Q3dQ |
| 05:47.10 | IncogDroid | I wonder how e17 is fairing |
| 05:47.53 | IncogDroid | I liked it but there were just some parts of out that felt really clunky |
| 05:48.09 | iateadonut | wiki.debian.org - seems to be down - is there a mirror? |
| 05:48.12 | IncogDroid | It* |
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| 05:48.24 | wipt__ | dpkg has good taste |
| 05:48.25 | dpkg | wipt__: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 05:48.44 | wipt__ | I take that back |
| 05:49.14 | IncogDroid | Lol |
| 05:49.16 | iateadonut | skilz_, where'd you get that mac looking thing on the bottom/ |
| 05:49.17 | iateadonut | ? |
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| 05:51.14 | atruno | the debian mirrors are always very slow ? |
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| 05:51.48 | iateadonut | ummm... how can i start 'network-manager-gnome'? |
| 05:51.49 | Some_Person | atruno: Use jigdo |
| 05:52.31 | taylorjonl | Is it possible to make root a different account? For example, if I wanted to have multiple installs that are isolated from a master root account? |
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| 05:54.26 | Some_Person | taylorjonl: I believe it is a separate account by default, though it is hidden from the login screen |
| 05:54.55 | Some_Person | Oh, wait, multiple *installs*? |
| 05:55.16 | taylorjonl | ya |
| 05:55.29 | Some_Person | What do you mean by that? |
| 05:55.48 | taylorjonl | This may take a minute to explain. |
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| 05:56.34 | verboze | a virtual system, perhaps ? |
| 05:56.41 | Some_Person | Well, we can't really help you if we don't know what you're trying to do |
| 05:58.25 | iateadonut | is there a good GUI hardware manager for debian? |
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| 05:58.41 | taylorjonl | I want to have a recovery install that can't be modified by other installs, e.g. if I boot into the *other* install and 'sudo' I want the account sudo uses to not be root of the recovery account. |
| 05:58.49 | Some_Person | iateadonut: What are you trying to do? |
| 05:59.11 | taylorjonl | Basically so that an *other* install can't mount *recovery* partitions and modify the data |
| 05:59.45 | Some_Person | taylorjonl: So, a completely separate debian separate from your main install? I'm not sure if I understand |
| 06:00.22 | taylorjonl | Let me write something more explanative in another site and post a link, don't want to spam the channel too much |
| 06:00.27 | taylorjonl | give me a couple |
| 06:00.45 | iateadonut | i'm trying to find my wireless card and install the driver for it. |
| 06:00.50 | iateadonut | Some_Person |
| 06:01.02 | Some_Person | iateadonut: Just use lspci |
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| 06:02.02 | iateadonut | i guess this will also require that i add non-free repo's? |
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| 06:02.26 | Some_Person | iateadonut: Possibly, depending on what card you have |
| 06:02.30 | iateadonut | ok, thanks. |
| 06:02.38 | verboze | iateadonut : use lspci -nn |
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| 06:03.23 | iateadonut | the tutorials i've seen on network-manager say "restart" - is that correct? it doesn't seem correct. |
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| 06:05.21 | iateadonut | should i try to use browser-plugin-gnash, or try to get the non-free one? |
| 06:05.36 | Some_Person | iateadonut: Huh? What the heck are you trying to do? |
| 06:05.57 | iateadonut | now i'm installing flash. i was also looking into network-manager-gnome before. |
| 06:06.11 | iateadonut | what i'm working on is dual booting debian and mandriva |
| 06:07.14 | Some_Person | flashplugin-nonfree is the one you want. Gnash is a free alternative, but honestly is very lacking in compatibility |
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| 06:07.27 | iateadonut | i installed network-manager-gnome, but typing network-manager-gnome doesn't do anything. |
| 06:08.44 | streuner | iateadonut: whats the output about your WLAN NIC, use "lspci -nn" |
| 06:09.32 | Some_Person | iateadonut: sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager start |
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| 06:10.16 | Some_Person | It should appear in the notification applet in your GNOME Panel |
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| 06:10.59 | iateadonut | ah... it won't work with fluxbox? |
| 06:11.21 | taylorjonl | Some_Person: Here is what I want: http://pastebin.com/HH4CmrPM |
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| 06:12.17 | iateadonut | streuner, thanks - looks like i need to install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 06:13.20 | Some_Person | ianpreston: I'm not really familiar with fluxbox, sorry |
| 06:13.31 | Some_Person | iateadonut: ^ |
| 06:13.45 | Some_Person | tabfail |
| 06:14.12 | simonlnu | iateadonut: you'll need some sort of panel thingy or such that has a "notification area" or "systray" |
| 06:14.33 | zykotick9 | iateadonut: "nm-applet" might be something to try running |
| 06:15.50 | iluminator101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:15.55 | iateadonut | apt-spy |
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| 06:18.03 | Some_Person | damn you pulseaudio!!!! |
| 06:19.08 | Some_Person | I was getting horrible distortion, and as always, killing pulseaudio and starting plain alsa fixes it |
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| 06:21.11 | holycow_ | hi guys |
| 06:21.15 | iateadonut | i've got this in my apt sources.list deb(-src) http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ stable main non-free #contrib, but apt-cache search flash|grep non doesn't give me flash nonfree |
| 06:21.41 | taylorjonl | did you run an apt-get update? |
| 06:21.41 | streuner | iateadonut: we need the output for the pciid entry (WLAN), for example 10ec:8139, it shouldnt be hard to type that |
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| 06:21.53 | teratoma | what's the #contrib ? |
| 06:21.55 | holycow_ | i have a samba server setup and most windows clients can access the shares. one cannot. what file do i need to tail to find out what the login errors this users is accounting? |
| 06:22.09 | holycow_ | i cannot find a single file that seems to show any updates on login attempt |
| 06:22.16 | iateadonut | #contrib is exed-out |
| 06:22.26 | iateadonut | taylorjonl, yes |
| 06:22.30 | iateadonut | ah! sorry. |
| 06:22.38 | teratoma | maybe its not really exed out |
| 06:22.47 | chant | Why is my tty clearing prior to login, after boot & after logout? |
| 06:23.13 | chant | I don't have pam_issue enabled in my pam.d/login |
| 06:23.24 | chant | yet the issue file still shows |
| 06:23.36 | chant | though that's probably getty... |
| 06:24.26 | verboze | wow, hectic o.O' |
| 06:25.38 | Some_Person | Does anyone know if there's a way to make my keyboard volume controls work in GNOME 3 *without* PulseAudio? |
| 06:25.49 | Some_Person | I'm tired of dealing with that piece of crap sound server |
| 06:28.05 | teratoma | aumix ? |
| 06:28.46 | chant | ah |
| 06:28.50 | chant | I need to add --noclear to inittab |
| 06:29.10 | iateadonut | streuner, thanks - 0c:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection [8086:4222] (rev 02) |
| 06:30.04 | streuner | judd, pciid [8086:4222 |
| 06:30.10 | streuner | judd, pciid 8086:4222 |
| 06:30.12 | judd | [8086:4222] is 'PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'iwl3945' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4222 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 06:30.35 | iateadonut | yes, i mentioned that that's the package i would need, thankns. |
| 06:30.56 | streuner | iateadonut: /msg dpkg iwl3945 |
| 06:33.01 | streuner | iateadonut: ok, to make sure, just use "iwlist scan" then |
| 06:34.06 | iateadonut | ok, cool, that just showed me the wireless networks. |
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| 06:35.31 | iateadonut | also i have two networks with the same name in this house. |
| 06:35.49 | iateadonut | in mandriva, i have to click on 'allow data point roaming' for it to work. (i have a repeater) |
| 06:35.56 | holycow_ | hmm ... still cannot track this down. anyone know what log file i need to tail to see what is failing with windows samba share login attempts? |
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| 06:36.28 | iateadonut | i think i have a systray that network-manager should appear in - it is the same one that (the slit) that the pidgin icon appears in. |
| 06:38.55 | rainfyre | where is my menu.lst file? |
| 06:39.38 | iateadonut | /boot/grub? |
| 06:41.17 | rainfyre | yeah. found it |
| 06:41.24 | simonlnu | doesn't exist if it's never seen grub1 |
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| 06:49.04 | verboze | what does bad LUN messages during booting means ? tried googling and it seems it has something to do with SCSI .. I don't have any on my netbook ? |
| 06:49.18 | streuner | iateadonut: maybe that helps - http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 06:51.21 | simonlnu | verboze: 1) does it happen to a cd/dvd drive? 2) if so, could be spurious hardware errors or "confused" kernel |
| 06:53.21 | verboze | 1) no, it doesn't have cd/dvd drive, 11 inch lenovo thinkpad edge e125; 2) i don't get it.. does it means my kernel broke/misconfigured or something ? |
| 06:53.45 | simonlnu | not necessarily |
| 06:54.12 | iateadonut | it's not asking me for a password to the wireless network - so that's a problem. |
| 06:54.16 | simonlnu | you getting log spam or worse? |
| 06:54.21 | simonlnu | verboze: ^^ |
| 06:55.04 | verboze | simonlnu : checking, a moment |
| 06:58.09 | simonlnu | shouldn't take very long ;) |
| 06:58.11 | holycow_ | okay got it. |
| 06:59.48 | boudiccas | Does anyone here use 'Radiotray'? if so, how do you get music from it through your speakers please? i get music with other programs, just not radiotray |
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| 07:00.43 | verboze | simonlnu : nope, no spamlog whatsoever.. some source said it has something to do with card reader.. there is one unused card reader, i wonder.. |
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| 07:01.58 | Pseudoephedrine | Would anyone be able to direct me to a tutorial of how i can host a website on my server? |
| 07:02.24 | verboze | anyway while checking daemon.log, i see thats somehow daemon still trying to execute wicd which i already removed, how do I fix this ? |
| 07:03.27 | zykotick9 | iateadonut: you might be interested in bugs.debian.org/629913 which explaines NM requires GDM/KDM in order to connect to wireless networks. I use wicd because of this on my EEE. |
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| 07:05.47 | simonlnu | verboze: oh possible |
| 07:06.10 | simonlnu | verboze: what is trying to execute it? |
| 07:06.24 | verboze | simonlnu : found it, its indeed sdcard reader, and yes its spamming my kern.log, i was searching at another log. any idea to fix this ? |
| 07:06.31 | iateadonut | so wicd-gtk? |
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| 07:06.53 | simonlnu | verboze: does it have an sd card in it right now? |
| 07:07.14 | verboze | simonlnu : nope it doesn't |
| 07:07.30 | iateadonut | ooh. it even asks what users to add to netdev |
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| 07:07.54 | simonlnu | unload the module for it maybe. otherwise google it, because i have no idea, sorry. |
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| 07:09.16 | verboze | simonlnu : okay, its already helping to give the hints :) |
| 07:09.40 | simonlnu | :) |
| 07:11.10 | boudiccas | Does anyone here use 'Radiotray'? if so, how do you get music from it through your speakers please? i get music with other programs, just not radiotray |
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| 07:11.29 | Pseudoephedrine | Would anyone be able to direct me to a tutorial of how i can host a website on my server? |
| 07:12.00 | iateadonut | on what server? |
| 07:12.02 | iateadonut | at home? |
| 07:12.11 | iateadonut | or do you have a vps or what? |
| 07:13.49 | iateadonut | zykotick9, it's not picking up any wireless networks. |
| 07:14.05 | iateadonut | nope, nevermind. there it went. |
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| 07:15.14 | Pseudoephedrine | iateadonut: It is a hosted Debian server.. |
| 07:16.01 | cyfi | Pseudoephedrine: google, debian apache mysql php5 tutorial |
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| 07:16.42 | Pseudoephedrine | cyfi: thanks your |
| 07:16.44 | Pseudoephedrine | wtf |
| 07:16.47 | Pseudoephedrine | Thank You! |
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| 07:19.16 | Pseudoephedrine | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 07:19.18 | Pseudoephedrine | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:20.48 | cast | evening all |
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| 07:22.55 | Pseudoephedrine | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.56 | Pseudoephedrine | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 07:27.44 | rainfyre | simonlnu: thanks simon |
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| 07:29.08 | simonlnu | no prob |
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| 07:44.43 | Atterall | Does anyone know if a virtual keyboard that randomizes the positions of the keys ? |
| 07:44.46 | Atterall | *know of |
| 07:45.20 | boudiccas | Does anyone here use 'Radiotray'? if so, how do you get music from it through your speakers please? i get music with other programs, just not radiotray |
| 07:46.01 | cast | Atterall: this to defeat keyloggers? |
| 07:46.14 | Atterall | cast: yes sir |
| 07:46.33 | cast | Atterall: tinfoilhat linux, or some such thing, i believe shipped with a wrapper around gpg that did that |
| 07:46.44 | cast | Atterall: alternatively, writing your own is quite trivial, |
| 07:46.44 | Atterall | cast: thank you |
| 07:47.44 | Pseudoephedrine | Can anyone help me with this please.. |
| 07:47.45 | Pseudoephedrine | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 07:47.47 | Pseudoephedrine | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:52.11 | iateadonut | is there an "easy" way to make sound work on this box? |
| 07:52.30 | iateadonut | like 'sudo apt-get install soundmagic'? |
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| 07:53.46 | cast | i normally use alsaconf |
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| 07:53.52 | cast | that magicaly generally works for me |
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| 08:08.45 | cast | xz: 100515.mbox: Input file has more than one hard link, skipping |
| 08:08.52 | cast | why would xz care? |
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| 08:11.02 | iateadonut | anyone ever have a problem where they plug in external speakers and they mute the laptop speakers but don't play any sound? |
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| 08:11.19 | cast | no, but sounds very hardware specific |
| 08:11.29 | iateadonut | yeah. happens on mandriva too. |
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| 08:11.48 | cast | can you sort it out in alasamixer? |
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| 08:16.35 | gnarface | iateadonut: usually you can sort it out in alsamixer. often there's a "headphone" device with no volume, just the mute toggle, and if you unmute it that re-enables the hardware auto-detection of headphone plugging. just out of curiosity, is this an old mac titanium powerbook you're using? |
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| 08:19.19 | jpinx | iateadonut: alsamixer sometimes needs you to toggle things - do a bit of unlikely fiddling - that has worked for me in the past |
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| 08:28.08 | iateadonut | jpinx, i'm using pulseaudio - does pulseaudio use alsa? |
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| 08:30.04 | Some_Person | iateadonut: PulseAudio basically runs on top of ALSA, so yes |
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| 08:30.44 | jpinx | quote from google -- "For the applications that do not support PulseAudio and support ALSA it is recommended to install the PulseAudio plugin for ALSA. |
| 08:30.55 | jpinx | iateadonut: there ya go |
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| 08:32.10 | verboze | anyone knows whether gnome3 on wheezy have battery indicator on it ? i couldn't find any.. tried battery-stats package but to no avail .. any idea ? |
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| 08:33.11 | iateadonut | sweet! i mounted /home and now i can use my old /home/user/ to start fluxbox in debian. |
| 08:33.19 | iateadonut | i better reboot with mandriva and see if it'll still work from there, though. |
| 08:33.37 | iateadonut | then on to dual booting my /var/www and mysql partitions |
| 08:34.40 | iateadonut | uh oh. firebug not working with iceweasel, though. |
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| 08:36.13 | iateadonut | and the firebug plugin i use for mandriva's firefox doesn't seem to work with iceweasel. |
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| 08:40.44 | pa7iQ | verboze: gnome3 in unstable has a battery indicator icon, yes |
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| 08:43.59 | verboze | pa7iQ: so gnome3.0 in testing doesn't have, yet ? |
| 08:44.07 | ericchern | XFE cannot type |
| 08:44.45 | pa7iQ | verboze: I only tried unstable |
| 08:45.51 | verboze | i see, thank you pa7iQ, will look further into uncle G! :) |
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| 08:46.18 | circulardna_ | ''error:unknown filesystem grub rescue>" Whats the hell with that??? |
| 08:47.06 | circulardna_ | umm...does anyody here? |
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| 08:48.12 | ericchern | I'm using X File Explorer Version 1.32.4, I can't type any character in name dialog box when create new file or folder. |
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| 08:49.43 | Pseudoephedrine | How do i find syslog? |
| 08:50.07 | jpinx | Pseudoephedrine: /var/log/syslog maybe |
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| 08:52.52 | samba35 | how do i diagnose a network this ,whenever i try to telnet with my domain it show 67.215.65.132 this ip ,and i don't have this ip in my knowledge how do i trace this |
| 08:55.24 | jpinx | samba35: traceroute |
| 08:55.42 | samba35 | ok |
| 08:56.55 | samba35 | when i say whois my domain to show correct doamin with ip |
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| 09:02.27 | verboze | ls -al /bin/df ? |
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| 09:07.23 | Some_Person | Is there any way to make the keyboard volume controls work with just plain ALSA (no PulseAudio) in GNOME 3? |
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| 09:08.09 | iateadonut | i just rebooted and now when i 'startx' debian starts gnome. |
| 09:08.14 | iateadonut | how do i change it to start to fluxbox? |
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| 09:12.55 | vagy | anyone really familiar with fancontrol (and lm-sensors) ? |
| 09:13.24 | _Mikey | omg!! I'm getting my wheezy packages for the first time |
| 09:13.27 | _Mikey | \o/ |
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| 09:13.40 | pa7iQ | iateadonut: google for .xinitrc or .xsession |
| 09:14.03 | pa7iQ | iateadonut: The real program that X11 runs, that runs other programs, is your .xinitrc or . xsession script. |
| 09:16.04 | anno_ | I have a regular squeeze setup with gnome. How can I boot to a bash prompt rather than to X ? |
| 09:16.33 | vagy | to put my question differently: anyone knows what these devices are? "DEVPATH=hwmon0=devices/platform/w83627hf.656 hwmon1=devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:18.3" ? |
| 09:16.41 | iateadonut | when i use 'find -iname '*xsession*', how can i get it to show me hidden files? |
| 09:20.40 | jpinx | iateadonut: use the . in the filename match |
| 09:21.22 | jpinx | find -iname '.*xsession' or so,,, |
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| 09:23.48 | Vutral | bla |
| 09:23.55 | Vutral | grub2 didnt migrate the console setting |
| 09:24.00 | iateadonut | yeah... i'm not finding any file like '.x*' in /etc or in /home/user/ |
| 09:24.00 | webad_13 | if I do sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sda - hdd goes to sleep but wakes up immediately after. Now I have everything closed, using openbox - so which process is waking it up? |
| 09:24.16 | iateadonut | /home/user/.xsession-errors |
| 09:24.18 | iateadonut | except that. |
| 09:24.30 | jpinx | iateadonut: more reliable to ls -al the directory |
| 09:25.08 | iateadonut | tried that with grep. can you let me know where yours is located? |
| 09:25.15 | jpinx | you can pipe the oputput through grep |
| 09:25.31 | jpinx | not on a debian box atm,,, |
| 09:25.50 | pa7iQ | anno_: you have to `/etc/init.d/gdm stop` , and make sure gdm won't start at boot |
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| 09:26.43 | iateadonut | did it like this: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 09:26.52 | iateadonut | don't know if that worked yet... will log out now. |
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| 09:35.17 | iateadonut | nope. that didn't work. neither did re-installing fluxbox. |
| 09:35.23 | iateadonut | keep startx'ing into gnome. |
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| 09:38.22 | bolt | iateadonut: if .xsessions doesn't exist, just make one |
| 09:38.42 | bolt | iateadonut: put "exec fluxbox" in it |
| 09:38.50 | bolt | iateadonut: that's all you need for a basic one |
| 09:39.00 | bolt | s/.xsessions/.xsession/ |
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| 09:39.53 | iateadonut | ok. will try |
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| 09:40.53 | boudiccas | ,versions revelation |
| 09:40.54 | judd | Package: revelation on i386 -- lenny: 0.4.11-3.1; squeeze: 0.4.11-8; sid: 0.4.11-10; wheezy: 0.4.11-10 |
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| 09:50.21 | iateadonut | bolt. seemed to work, except the programs in /home/user/.fluxbox/startup don't seem to be running |
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| 09:55.45 | vagy | can someone make a "fake" virtual device under /sys/devices without making a kobject ? |
| 09:56.07 | vagy | actually without writing code for that kobejct |
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| 10:06.22 | gnarface | vagy: you mean something like when you make a fake one in /dev? |
| 10:06.54 | gnarface | vagy: i don't know the answer i'm just trying to understand the question. i thought /sys didn't contain devices like /dev, more like flat files that stuff in /dev reads/writes to |
| 10:07.34 | gnarface | vagy: to a certain degree in my mind /sys competes with /proc for basic functionality |
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| 10:44.28 | verboze | my box crashed everytime I play video using vlc or mediaplayer, any idea ? (using ati propietary drivers at the moment) |
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| 10:45.52 | cahoot | I'd try mplayer from a terminal to possibly catch any errormsg |
| 10:46.31 | cahoot | (maybe even vlc cn be run form terminal) |
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| 10:49.50 | eevo | cahoot: everything can be run from a terminal ;) |
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| 11:04.09 | verboze | cahoot: okay, I'll try that |
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| 11:06.56 | _Mikey | f Yeah! |
| 11:06.59 | _Mikey | dist update |
| 11:07.05 | _Mikey | now running gnome 3 \o/ |
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| 11:07.42 | _Mikey | lost x cause I couldn't pull gnome packages wirelessly and rebooted :p |
| 11:07.47 | _Mikey | but I'm back \o/ |
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| 11:09.44 | Some_Person | Why was xfce4-xfapplet-plugin removed from wheezy? |
| 11:10.24 | nkuttler | !why is xfce4-xfapplet-plugin not in testing |
| 11:10.24 | dpkg | xfce4-xfapplet-plugin is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=xfce4-xfapplet-plugin |
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| 11:12.09 | AthomIk | hello |
| 11:12.39 | verboze | cahoot: I got segmentation fault |
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| 11:15.38 | AthomIk | exist problem with kernel 3x and nvidia drivers ? |
| 11:16.07 | AthomIk | debian nividia drivers, packages |
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| 11:18.24 | Mike90- | hello totem crash xorg when playing any video format |
| 11:18.34 | Mike90- | it is on debian wheezy |
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| 11:24.51 | rly | I put in an usb key, but nothing appears to happen. |
| 11:25.04 | sneex | wow, I'm gonna miss debian - Peace |
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| 11:25.22 | rly | I don't even see anything in dmesg. |
| 11:26.24 | rly | Is it possible that a 'busy machine' doesn't notice hotplug events? |
| 11:26.31 | rly | It sounds kind of unlikely. |
| 11:26.33 | xand | that sounds like a hardware issue |
| 11:26.47 | gebi | just in case anybody nees java 6u30 for debian squeeze, https://github.com/gebi/sun-java6 |
| 11:26.50 | rly | xand: I used the same port yesterday to move tons of data. |
| 11:26.56 | rly | xand: but another port does work. |
| 11:27.51 | rly | xand: ok, it was me. It didn't really get in easily and I just had to put it in deeper. |
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| 11:28.22 | sara89 | ciao |
| 11:28.26 | sara89 | !list |
| 11:28.26 | dpkg | sara89: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.3-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 11:29.27 | jelly-home | gebi: what fails without that diff_ignore change? I've built mine without that. |
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| 11:30.42 | gebi | jelly-home: diff fails on the check between both bin packages |
| 11:31.18 | gebi | but you can also just disable those checks afaik, but imho the initial author put those checks there for a reason |
| 11:31.19 | jelly-home | ah. I hacked out stuff and built only for i386 |
| 11:31.36 | gebi | heh np |
| 11:31.54 | gebi | i _really_ needed those packages because openjdk on squeeze is crap :/ |
| 11:32.01 | jelly-home | nod |
| 11:32.10 | gebi | for java7 it's no problem, but java6 with openjdk doesn't work |
| 11:32.23 | gebi | 25 of 31 tomcats didn't even start |
| 11:32.28 | gebi | and the rest didn't worked correctly |
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| 11:33.42 | debianero_ | hi |
| 11:33.59 | debianero_ | i have a little problem with debian squece |
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| 11:34.34 | debianero_ | i am using compiz, and i can t use more than one desktop |
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| 11:35.42 | debianero_ | and ccsm don t let me to put more than one |
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| 11:36.03 | debianero_ | can someone help me? i don t find nothing on google |
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| 11:38.36 | gebi | jelly-home: i just wanted to upload the code somewhere for others to have a quick solution instead of numers hours of investigation or worse, installing the .bin files :/ |
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| 11:38.49 | gebi | jelly-home: did you hit any further problems with your 6u30 packages? |
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| 11:47.21 | jelly-home | gebi: not really, I'm basically using it just for java applets and webstart apps. |
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| 11:48.01 | jelly-home | hw vendors like their remote management javafied :-| |
| 11:48.09 | xand | sickos |
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| 11:48.27 | jelly-home | eh, still better than driving to the DC |
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| 11:49.42 | PTBD | hallo. to change from wheezy to sid I have to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and change every "wheezy" to "sid" right? |
| 11:50.08 | gebi | jelly-home: ah ok, thx |
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| 11:53.51 | gnarface | PTBD: yes, but then you also have to make sure you're fully up to date on wheezy first, and then do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and pray to your dear and fluffy god that nothing goes wrong (i recommend making a backup) |
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| 11:54.52 | PTBD | gnarface, there are also two security mirrors. do they stay? or do I change to "sid" too? |
| 11:55.10 | PTBD | a friend told me that he uncomments them when going to sid!? |
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| 11:55.39 | gnarface | PTBD: you mean comments them when going to sid? as far as i was aware the volatile/updates and security repos were for stable (squeeze) only |
| 11:55.59 | gnarface | PTBD: eg; you shouldn't have had them on in wheezy either. but i could be wrong |
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| 11:56.19 | PTBD | but they were. i installed wheezy businesscard image. |
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| 11:56.37 | PTBD | dosn't matter. i put a # in front of them |
| 11:56.56 | gnarface | PTBD: well i can't say then. what i can say though is this process is relatively hazard-free unless you recklessly mixed distros/versions. |
| 11:57.24 | PTBD | gnarface, ok, thank you |
| 11:57.32 | PTBD | i hope nothing goes wrong |
| 11:57.57 | gnarface | PTBD: let it be stated for the record that i DID recommend you backup first |
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| 11:58.19 | PTBD | gnarface, yes. noted. |
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| 11:59.13 | PTBD | thank you gnarface |
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| 11:59.16 | PTBD | see you |
| 11:59.22 | PTBD | if it all works out |
| 11:59.22 | jelly-home | PTBD: have fun testing debian unstable! Remember to send in patches for every bug found! |
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| 12:00.49 | hid3 | Hello everyone. I have a backup server where users (actually cron scripts) connect and upload different system backups. Is there any way to limit the access time when a user can connect? I want to avoid hackers trying to erase the backups |
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| 12:02.28 | xand | hid3: I'm not sure, but maybe think about limiting by IP address or require keys instead of passwords |
| 12:02.31 | gnarface | don't be mean jelly-home, you know very well if he were to even so much as submit ONE bug report, let alone "patches" it would make him way above par for course |
| 12:02.33 | gnarface | er |
| 12:02.34 | gnarface | below |
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| 12:03.13 | hid3 | xand: IP adresses are limited. Using keys. But let's say someone hack the machine which uplaods backups. Oh, they see that I have offsite backup!! Let's erase them! I want to avoid that. |
| 12:03.14 | zen_monkey | is there support for zfs under debian? am intending to mount a mini fileserver at home and got interested on the hability (zfs) to self heal corrupted files :D |
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| 12:03.52 | xand | hid3: well you could change firewall rules etc using cron |
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| 12:04.49 | xand | !zfs |
| 12:04.50 | dpkg | ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems (http://deb.li/7xXU). The Debian GNU/kFreeBSD kernel since 7.2 has ZFS support, the userland utilities are packaged as zfsutils in squeeze. A <FUSE> implementation for Debian GNU/Linux systems is in zfs-fuse. For ZFS on Squeeze, see http://deb.li/i4JhI . http://zfs-fuse.net/ #zfs-fuse on irc.freenode.net. |
| 12:05.21 | hid3 | xand: an idea to consider. Thanks. |
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| 12:11.07 | aguitel | is possible to work debian like "rolling release " ? |
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| 12:12.33 | Bartzy | Hey |
| 12:12.57 | Bartzy | I built a .deb package. However when I install it or reinstall it, it overwrites existing files with its default files... |
| 12:13.11 | Bartzy | so I guess I should use .default extension or something for each file I don't want overwritten ? |
| 12:14.22 | gnarface | aguitel: that's what unstable IS but ... it is gonna hurt you |
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| 12:14.45 | xand | so is testing to an extent |
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| 12:16.57 | bolt | aguitel: debian has absolutely great support for upgrading to the next release whenever a new stable is released. why would you want a rolling release then? |
| 12:17.52 | gnarface | everyone wants rolling releases but they don't get that means "fucking untested" |
| 12:17.54 | aguitel | bolt, to take the last in all aplications and kernel |
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| 12:19.15 | bolt | aguitel: why do you want the latest ones? |
| 12:19.21 | bolt | gnarface: indeed |
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| 12:19.53 | aguitel | why not |
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| 12:20.50 | gnarface | bolt: give up. he's not gonna see the dichotomy between "being current" and "being hassle-free" until it bites him right on the nose. |
| 12:21.22 | gnarface | bolt: and then, he's gonna blame it on debian and switch to ubuntu, then when that fails he'll blame it on linux and switch to mac os x |
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| 12:21.36 | bolt | aguitel: on one side, you have stable software with a solid update path and good support. on the other side, you have the new software, which gives... what? |
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| 12:21.48 | aguitel | gnarface, never migrate to win or mac |
| 12:21.51 | gnarface | bolt: and then when that fails he'll blame it on technology as a whole and take up a job farming turnips |
| 12:22.00 | bolt | gnarface: sounds like you've been through a lot of these conversations :D |
| 12:22.09 | gnarface | is old and angry |
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| 12:25.24 | jelly-home | gnary* |
| 12:26.29 | gnarface | hah |
| 12:26.43 | gnarface | i see a little lightbulb above someone's head |
| 12:28.01 | Bartzy | I have an unofficial repo in my sources.list - how do I only install packages from there when needed (and not by default with aptitude install), but 'aptitude upgrade' will upgrade packages from that repo that were installed from that repo ? |
| 12:28.36 | Bartzy | I pinned the repo to priority 1 with o=release, which sucks because the component it uses is 'squeeze', and now to install stuff from there I need to do: aptitude -t squeeze install package |
| 12:28.53 | Bartzy | can't I call the repo a custom name so I can do aptitude -t my-repo install package ? |
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| 12:31.20 | koisoke | Is there some reason bash completions in wheezy have completed directories with a space instead of / since ~time immemorial |
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| 12:36.14 | Bartzy | anyone ? |
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| 12:42.43 | verboze | hello again, it seems like I'm stuck again, anyone can help with problem no. 4 stated here-> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=74879 |
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| 12:55.42 | rly | Can I see a graph of the number of fixed bugs over time for the Debian BTS? |
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| 13:30.23 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
| 13:30.38 | Ronis_BR | is there a time schedule to when gnome 3.2 will reach testing? |
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| 13:31.08 | Sefid_Par | !debian live |
| 13:31.08 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
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| 13:34.34 | konradb | hi |
| 13:35.18 | konradb | what can be the problem? i have radeon, and i installed free/open driver. but when i am resizing window, my cpu usage is going to 70 -80%... i have i7 lol |
| 13:35.46 | skamikaze | what desktop env konradb ? |
| 13:35.57 | konradb | env? ;p |
| 13:36.06 | skamikaze | gnome? kde? .. |
| 13:36.11 | konradb | openbox |
| 13:36.17 | konradb | with tint2 :] |
| 13:36.22 | skamikaze | hides |
| 13:36.24 | skamikaze | :) |
| 13:36.28 | konradb | ;] |
| 13:36.31 | skamikaze | no clue bout that combination sry |
| 13:37.01 | gele | konradb: does that use gpu acceleration for things like window resizing? |
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| 13:37.13 | gele | thinkgs not. |
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| 13:41.54 | else- | is it possible to find out why a device is busy? |
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| 13:42.12 | else- | specifically, i can't write a partition table to /dev/sdb |
| 13:42.19 | else- | but i don't know why. mount doesn't list the disk. |
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| 13:46.07 | e|f | note to self: www.manpages.com is NOT an online resource to get *nix man pages |
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| 13:47.49 | Flash__ | heh |
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| 13:48.32 | made2shred | whats the key command to kill a process onscreen? (like ctrl + z is stop) |
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| 13:50.39 | abrotman | ctrl-c ? |
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| 13:52.28 | jpinx | else-: ps -e maybe? |
| 13:53.22 | abrotman | else-: what's the error message you get? |
| 13:53.32 | jpinx | else-: depends what you're using and trying to do |
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| 13:53.58 | made2shred | ctrl c isn't working |
| 13:54.22 | made2shred | wait, got it |
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| 14:00.07 | konradb | idk |
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| 14:10.32 | PTBD | after updateing debian wheezy to sid i only can use gnome 3.2 in fallback mode with intel graphics. it worked fine on wheezy |
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| 14:12.16 | abrotman | why would you go to sid? |
| 14:12.30 | abrotman | is your system all the way up to sid? did you check the BTS? |
| 14:13.08 | PTBD | I think so |
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| 14:13.28 | abrotman | don't think so .. |
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| 14:15.06 | PTBD | what? |
| 14:15.14 | teratoma | how do i sign packages i compiled with apt-get source ... ? http://pastebin.com/4Pn8FLhM |
| 14:15.56 | abrotman | PTBD: make double sure your system is all the way to sid .. nothing held back or left to upgrade |
| 14:16.45 | PTBD | there is nothing. I don't know how you mean to check but i ran aptitude update + dist-upgrade, there is nothing left |
| 14:16.54 | abrotman | did you check the BTS? |
| 14:17.27 | PTBD | yes. nothing that sounds like my problem |
| 14:18.01 | abrotman | is the xorg package installed? the full gnome package? .. This is why people shouldn't use sid |
| 14:18.06 | abrotman | (normal people) |
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| 14:18.28 | abrotman | did you try creating a new system user and seeing if the same thing happens for that user? |
| 14:18.39 | jelly-home | why do we give "gnome" as default for normal people, anway |
| 14:18.45 | jelly-home | hides |
| 14:19.03 | abrotman | jelly-home: pfft .. that's not the issue .. the issue here is people that want to use 'unstable' |
| 14:19.14 | PTBD | i used the default setting when installing wheezy. on wheezy everything worked fine. |
| 14:19.19 | jelly-home | so let them burn themselves |
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| 14:19.21 | PTBD | it also showed my gpu |
| 14:19.23 | abrotman | so why didn't you stay on wheezy? |
| 14:19.49 | PTBD | because I wanted to try sid |
| 14:20.02 | jelly-home | now you tried it |
| 14:20.03 | abrotman | and now you have .. what are your impressions . |
| 14:20.04 | abrotman | ? |
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| 14:21.16 | PTBD | if you are not willing to help, don't do it. but why do I have to justify myself? |
| 14:21.27 | skilz | WHat chmod number do I have to make a directory of images availible for everyone to view |
| 14:22.10 | PTBD | i wanted to use gnome 3 but also use extensions for it and to install extensions from the extenstion.gnome.org page, i need a newer version for gnome and that's why i went to sid |
| 14:22.15 | jelly-home | PTBD: you're expected to be aware sid's meant for people that _want_ to find bugs, and help with fixing them |
| 14:22.23 | abrotman | PTBD: why didn't you just wait til 3.2 hit wheezy? |
| 14:22.40 | abrotman | PTBD: and you didn't answer my question about the new user |
| 14:22.53 | PTBD | no I didn't try that |
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| 14:23.30 | abrotman | in short .. unstable breaks, if you're not willing to deal with those breaks and/or know how to test possible fixes .. you realyl shouldn't be using it |
| 14:24.07 | HardFu | http://carmivore.com/abrotman |
| 14:24.19 | jpinx | !sid |
| 14:24.20 | dpkg | The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
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| 14:24.47 | Virtualmix | PTBD: I wrote something about 3.2 in wheezy yesterday, you may like it: http://blog.trollmaker.com/article12/how-to-install-gnome-shell-3-2-in-debian-testing |
| 14:24.53 | abrotman | HardFu: i see in the other channel |
| 14:24.58 | HardFu | ah ok :) |
| 14:25.01 | jelly-home | PTBD: if you ARE aware of this state, there's a channel specifically for people that install testing and sid: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (not this irc network) |
| 14:25.17 | abrotman | Virtualmix: hopefully it doesn't use pinning |
| 14:25.21 | HardFu | wanted to let everyone know stats building has been updated a bit, still a lot of work left :) |
| 14:25.44 | PTBD | Virtualmix, thank you |
| 14:25.54 | jelly-home | HardFu: if I say things like "abrotman sucks" do the numbers go down |
| 14:26.11 | Virtualmix | abrotman: why not pinning? |
| 14:26.31 | jelly-home | abrotman-- |
| 14:26.34 | jelly-home | hides |
| 14:26.52 | abrotman | Virtualmix: those instructions are horrible .. please don't suggest peole use them |
| 14:26.55 | HardFu | jelly-home: no :) |
| 14:27.33 | Virtualmix | abrotman: oh, thank you |
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| 14:28.47 | abrotman | Virtualmix: it's really just better to wait for it to get to wheezy .. i realize extensions don't work .. but is that really life-ending? :) |
| 14:29.16 | abrotman | Virtualmix: there are numerous ways to do that .. but you're not even using pinning .. and if there are updates, they'll never get them |
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| 14:30.17 | knob | Good morning everyone =) |
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| 14:30.44 | Virtualmix | abrotman: I agree the best is to wait for it to get to wheezy but gnome 3 without extension is just a pain |
| 14:31.09 | abrotman | Virtualmix: not really .. but i suppose that's subjective |
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| 14:31.23 | abrotman | works mostly fine for me |
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| 14:32.01 | abrotman | PTBD: did you try the new user yet? |
| 14:32.04 | knob | I created a user, and using it for some ftp transfers. Thing is, the files I upload there are going into /home/tester, and I would like to have them go to /var/www/tester |
| 14:32.07 | knob | Any thoughts? |
| 14:32.13 | Virtualmix | abrotman: some of us are impatient :) |
| 14:32.19 | abrotman | knob: change the user's $HOME |
| 14:32.26 | PTBD | abrotman, no |
| 14:32.28 | abrotman | Virtualmix: apparently too impatient .. |
| 14:32.46 | abrotman | PTBD: i'm wondering if something in your $HOME is causing that .. that's why i'm asking you to test that |
| 14:32.46 | knob | Ahh... didn't know about that (I'm a n00b). Will google that now. Thank you! |
| 14:33.02 | PTBD | ok |
| 14:33.38 | abrotman | knob: you want them there by default, right ? |
| 14:33.43 | knob | yes |
| 14:33.47 | knob | Would that be with usermod ? |
| 14:34.02 | abrotman | knob: also note .. you should be using 'scp' for stuff like that .. if someone sniffs your user/pass .. your website will be uhm .. not what you want |
| 14:34.36 | xand | all FTPds should be removed from debian's repos ;) |
| 14:34.46 | xand | at least ones that do more than anonymous connections eh |
| 14:34.53 | abrotman | xand: i expect you'll file bugs :) |
| 14:34.57 | jpinx | knob fwiw you can change apache to serve pages from other dirs - assuming that's what you're doing? |
| 14:36.19 | knob | Honestly, not sure yet what I'm doing. This isn't a "production" site... I'm just playing with something at the moment. |
| 14:36.28 | knob | It's a small cloud instance in Rackspace, running Debian... |
| 14:36.43 | knob | I want to run anonymous ftp uploads... so I can send up some stuff from my mobile... testing for the moment |
| 14:36.53 | knob | in the future, I would like to remove ftp, and do it with something secure |
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| 14:38.15 | abrotman | why not now? :) |
| 14:38.28 | jpinx | knob: depending on your mobile type you can rsync maybe (I do that) |
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| 14:38.46 | PTBD | abrotman, the same with new user |
| 14:38.57 | knob | Would love to, but being an ultra-n00b... I'm just going to get stuck all the way. I even got stuck setting up a user for ftp... didn't know I had to create a user first in the shell X_X |
| 14:39.12 | jpinx | is not sure if there is a PuTTY for windoze mobiles |
| 14:39.33 | verboze | hello, anyone can help with problem no. 4 stated here-> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=74879 |
| 14:39.59 | knob | Changing the $HOME of "tester", would that be usermod -d /var/www/ tester ?? |
| 14:40.09 | knob | it says that -d is for new home directory for the user account |
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| 14:40.19 | xand | uhuh |
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| 14:43.17 | knob | awesome =) Thanks!! |
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| 14:45.49 | abrotman | PTBD: and you're sure the xorg and gnome packages are installed ? |
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| 14:46.32 | PTBD | yes. i reinstalled the xorg intel driver. I try to reinstall gnome too |
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| 14:49.45 | abrotman | PTBD: did you check for error logs in $HOME? |
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| 14:51.28 | PTBD | i cant find any in home |
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| 14:54.59 | abrotman | PTBD: it used to be ~/.gnome-session-errors |
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| 14:56.15 | PTBD | I only have a .xsession-errors |
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| 14:58.50 | PTBD | when trying to reinstall gnome, i get a message about dependencies. i think thats the problem |
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| 14:59.16 | DragonSlay | PTBD, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome |
| 14:59.44 | DragonSlay | PTBD, might work if you already have gnome installed. |
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| 15:00.09 | PTBD | it tells me I don't. |
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| 15:02.01 | PTBD | brb |
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| 15:25.24 | mikul | OMG, when i woke up i found vino-server at 90% and an .xsession-errors file on 16.4 gb! Does anyone have any ideas about why? |
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| 15:27.53 | abrotman | look at the error log? |
| 15:28.15 | mikul | haha, trying.. it takes some time to load a 16.4 gb file :D |
| 15:28.31 | vvor | mikul: tail it |
| 15:28.33 | abrotman | try 'tail' |
| 15:29.56 | mikul | haha.. omg.. im rally not awake jet :D thx |
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| 15:33.16 | mikul | 22/01/2012 04:16:08 PM Authentication deferred - ignoring client message |
| 15:33.24 | mikul | lot of lines like that :D |
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| 15:34.47 | abrotman | mikul: seems like someone was trying to connect? |
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| 15:35.42 | mikul | abrotman, yeah, was thinking that to. annoying. |
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| 15:39.55 | mikul | thanks for the help anyway =) |
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| 15:45.32 | Chripher | anyon here running proftpd in home? with no access to root? |
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| 15:46.36 | abrotman | that's a good thing |
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| 15:51.55 | skilz | Hey im trying to install mysql-server, it looks like its installing mysql-server-5.1 also, when prompted to enter an admin password I do so then there is an error setting up mysql server |
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| 15:52.48 | skilz | http://pastebin.com/8dUzqqFC |
| 15:52.54 | skilz | thats the output |
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| 15:54.32 | format_c | check syslog while starting mysqld |
| 15:55.24 | format_c | tail -f /var/log/syslog ; service mysql start |
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| 15:56.21 | innociv | Why doesn't "useradd foo -p '$1$cUzYvX5S$pI2Z7dRLNr6ljWRTUv86p/'" Let me log into user foo with password password? |
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| 15:57.20 | skilz | http://pastebin.com/rxxD0wQz |
| 15:59.27 | format_c | skilz, check ls -lh /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 15:59.46 | format_c | innociv, you usually need more than a username and a password |
| 16:00.21 | innociv | Oh? |
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| 16:01.24 | skilz | cannot access /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock: No such file or directory |
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| 16:04.04 | skilz | how can I make 'pon' at system boot? |
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| 16:05.48 | format_c | skilz, don't you want to try to solve one problem after another ? |
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| 16:10.13 | innociv | format_c, what more would I nee besides that to log into the user? |
| 16:12.31 | format_c | useradd -s /bin/bash -d /home/foo -m -k /etc/skel -c "FooBar" -p $1$..... foo |
| 16:12.48 | format_c | A shell, a home directory |
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| 16:13.50 | innociv | What if I only want them using internal-sftp and not shell, do I still need -s /bin/bash? |
| 16:14.01 | format_c | innociv, however you need to quote the MD5Hash in single quotes |
| 16:14.13 | format_c | Otherwize Bash is interpreting the $... as a variable |
| 16:14.24 | innociv | I did quote it in single quotes. |
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| 16:16.04 | format_c | OK then you should set the shell to /bin/false explicitely |
| 16:16.44 | jpinx | innociv: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94 |
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| 16:17.34 | innociv | sftp-server is the same as internal-sftp in openssh? |
| 16:18.20 | format_c | When it's then not working, I'd doubt the MD5 string. compare it to the one generated by passwd. |
| 16:18.24 | innociv | Actually, I probably won't want that. I'm going to have apache/php running as that user and they're chrooted anyway. Not much harm that they can do chrooted, no? |
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| 16:19.22 | innociv | How do I have passwd generate one without changing my users? |
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| 16:19.58 | innociv | user's* |
| 16:21.09 | innociv | And adduser does SHA512 does that's not helpful to check against |
| 16:21.24 | format_c | Take a test user. And always check the return code of the system command you're executing with other wrappers. |
| 16:21.48 | innociv | Erm, how? |
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| 16:22.20 | innociv | .... I don't even understand. I just made a user with adduser and I can't even log into that. |
| 16:24.33 | vitorlobo | My debian does not access facebook or twitter correctly after I changed my modem to a d-link 500b. Does anyone know how to solve? |
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| 16:26.08 | innociv | So why if I do "adduser foo" and simply put in "password" for password, would I get access denied when attempting to log in? |
| 16:26.13 | cjg | Hi guys, theres 3 things I need my system to do when it boots up, thats 'pon, sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 and sudo firestarter -s' how can I do this please? |
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| 16:26.33 | petemc | innociv: that should create a working user account |
| 16:26.47 | vitorlobo | My debian does not access facebook or twitter correctly after I changed my modem to a d-link 500b. Does anyone know how to solve? |
| 16:26.47 | innociv | How? |
| 16:26.49 | petemc | innociv: what does /var/log/auth.log say ? |
| 16:27.01 | innociv | I thought adduser does all those things |
| 16:27.08 | petemc | it should |
| 16:27.56 | innociv | "Jan 22 12:15:31 rph sshd[12621]: Failed password for invalid user test5 from 24.*.*.* port 63079 ssh2 |
| 16:27.56 | innociv | " |
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| 16:30.04 | innociv | Why would the user I just created be invalid? |
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| 16:32.19 | vitorlobo | My debian does not access facebook or twitter correctly after I changed my modem to a d-link 500b. Does anyone know how to solve? |
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| 16:37.48 | vitorlobo | My debian does not access facebook or twitter correctly after I changed my modem to a d-link 500b. Does anyone know how to solve? |
| 16:37.48 | innociv | What could it be?... |
| 16:38.05 | ksuhku | vitorlobo, be happy |
| 16:38.39 | gele | vitorlobo: only those two sites? |
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| 16:38.47 | vitorlobo | yes |
| 16:38.59 | gele | that sounds extraordinarily weird. |
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| 16:39.08 | cjg | hey one of the commands in /etc/rc.local needs to wait about 10 seconds before it runs how do I do that? |
| 16:39.11 | cjg | firestarter -s |
| 16:39.13 | vitorlobo | gele: yes |
| 16:39.35 | gele | vitorlobo: does it resolve the names correctly? |
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| 16:39.59 | ksuhku | cjg, uhm, sleep 10? |
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| 16:40.16 | vitorlobo | gele: yes... log in correctly, enters but does not access the site's features. |
| 16:40.27 | Nautuh | Can somebody help me, i need to intall the libmysqlclient15off on debain but how? |
| 16:40.39 | cjg | ksuhku: so 'firestarter -s sleep 10' or 'sleep 10 firestarter -s'???? |
| 16:40.41 | gele | vitorlobo: does the modem have access control features? |
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| 16:41.04 | vitorlobo | gele: via 3g, access normal. via d-link 500b not. |
| 16:41.17 | vitorlobo | gele: yes |
| 16:41.20 | innociv | Why would I not be able to log into a user after creating it with useradd? But I can log into existing users.. |
| 16:41.21 | ksuhku | cjg, sleep 10 && fire.... |
| 16:41.28 | cjg | thanks |
| 16:41.30 | vitorlobo | gele: per 10.1.1.1 :) |
| 16:41.31 | ksuhku | np |
| 16:41.40 | gele | vitorlobo: have you checked to make sure that it isn't blocking anything? |
| 16:41.46 | innociv | OH |
| 16:41.48 | Nautuh | Can somebody help me, i need to intall the libmysqlclient15off on debain but how? |
| 16:41.50 | innociv | It's not in allowUsers |
| 16:42.18 | vitorlobo | gele: how to check? |
| 16:42.31 | gele | vitorlobo: i don't know. depends on the modem. |
| 16:42.45 | vitorlobo | modem model d-link 500b |
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| 16:42.59 | Nautuh | Can anybody please help me :) |
| 16:43.21 | Nautuh | i need to intall the libmysqlclient15off on debain but how? |
| 16:44.26 | innociv | Alright. If I add the user to AllowUsers is sshd config, I can log in as. But, er, how do I do that without editing the config? |
| 16:44.38 | ksuhku | Nautuh, you on Lenny? (5.0) |
| 16:44.40 | innociv | Or can I allow them by group? |
| 16:45.00 | Nautuh | Debian 6 32 bit |
| 16:45.07 | innociv | Yeah I can.. |
| 16:45.39 | Nautuh | ksuhku, Debian 6 32 bit |
| 16:45.39 | ksuhku | Nautuh, looks like there is no such package in Squeeze (6) |
| 16:45.48 | Nautuh | damn |
| 16:46.03 | Nautuh | how can i get mysql working then |
| 16:46.39 | gele | Nautuh: don't the normal packages work? |
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| 16:47.12 | Nautuh | gele libmysqlclient.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:47.31 | gele | Nautuh: where do you get that message? |
| 16:47.38 | Nautuh | console |
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| 16:48.09 | Nautuh | If for a gaming server, i need mysql connection |
| 16:48.21 | gele | Nautuh: yes, but from what software? |
| 16:48.44 | Nautuh | Yeah mean what game? |
| 16:48.57 | innociv | How do I make it so all users in a group are allowed to ssh? |
| 16:49.30 | Nautuh | gele, its for mta server |
| 16:49.35 | Nautuh | i use this module http://code.google.com/p/multitheftauto-modules/downloads/detail?name=mta_mysql.so&can=2&q= |
| 16:49.40 | gele | Nautuh: is this from some non-free, non-debian packaged software that you have just installed a binary of? |
| 16:49.45 | innociv | AllowUsers user works, but AllowGroups group isn't allowing any users not in AllowUser, but in AllowGroups to log in... |
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| 16:51.29 | Nautuh | gele, its for mta server |
| 16:51.29 | Nautuh | <Nautuh> i use this module http://code.google.com/p/multitheftauto-modules/downloads/detail?name=mta_mysql.so&can=2&q= |
| 16:52.13 | innociv | GOD DAMN IT. |
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| 16:52.20 | innociv | Now I think I failed log in too much and it's locking me out |
| 16:52.23 | gele | Nautuh: don't know then. try compiling it against the current debian version of mysql. |
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| 16:52.32 | innociv | how do I get denyhosts to stop locking me out?! |
| 16:52.42 | Nautuh | ok ty |
| 16:52.44 | nze | i want to convert my debian squeeze server into a pv domU. so far i've set up a dom0 (debian6 as well) and prepared lvm logical volumes on a luks encrypted partition. |
| 16:52.45 | nze | what's a good way to move over the old server? just rsync over all of the partitions? |
| 16:52.45 | nze | also, what modifications have to be made after the move in order to allow it to run as pv dom1? |
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| 16:55.36 | innociv | Got it... |
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| 17:00.51 | superlinux-hp | hi. my question is for educational purposes. well IRIX is shutdown now as a project. now it works on MPIS CPUs only. now we have Intel CPU's. I have a copy of IRIX and I want to try it. what software i should be looking for to have it run? |
| 17:01.17 | petemc | qemu does mips |
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| 17:01.32 | innociv | Anyone? "Failed password for invalid user"... I'm trying to add users, but how am I supposed to allow them from sshd config? Am I supposed to comment out AllowUsers and allow any user to log in?... |
| 17:01.57 | superlinux-hp | petemc, so will it boot the installation CD image and do a natural install? |
| 17:02.05 | petemc | superlinux-hp: possibly |
| 17:02.13 | superlinux-hp | ah. ok.. i'll try |
| 17:02.28 | superlinux-hp | cos it's there on torrent. |
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| 17:15.48 | WormFood | why would the disk utility suggest that I need to repartition my drive to increase performance (it is a 4k sector drive), but the disk utility is what made the damn partition to start with. |
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| 17:16.16 | teratoma | how do i sign packages i compiled with apt-get source ... ? http://pastebin.com/4Pn8FLhM |
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| 17:24.06 | innociv | Anyone? "Failed password for invalid user". I'm trying to add users, but how am I supposed to allow them from sshd config? Am I supposed to comment out AllowUsers and allow any user to log in?. |
| 17:24.20 | petemc | innociv: you shouldnt have to do anything |
| 17:24.31 | innociv | really? |
| 17:24.40 | innociv | I can't log into a user unlesss I put them in AllowUsers in the sshd_config |
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| 17:25.09 | petemc | innociv: with the config that ships with sshd it should just work, provided the user has been added correctly |
| 17:25.48 | innociv | Well... I've done something else to my config I Guess |
| 17:25.50 | toropisco | innociv: add the users to a group and use AllowGroups blah in sshd_config |
| 17:26.13 | innociv | I tried that. |
| 17:26.25 | innociv | But Users takes priority |
| 17:26.28 | innociv | AllowUsers* |
| 17:26.41 | toropisco | Disable allow users then. |
| 17:26.55 | innociv | foo:bar foobar:bar AllowUsers foo AllowGroups bar and only foo can log in. |
| 17:27.23 | toropisco | That sounds like a bug to me. |
| 17:27.51 | innociv | even though foobar is in AllowGroups |
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| 17:28.12 | innociv | I tested it and some forum post confirmed it |
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| 17:28.51 | toropisco | Then you'll have to add all the users in question to AllowUsers. Ugly. |
| 17:28.58 | innociv | Very |
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| 17:29.44 | innociv | Should I really disallow AllowUsers? What happens to users without passwords? and.. how do I? |
| 17:29.50 | innociv | I tried commenting it out and I couldn't log into anything |
| 17:30.07 | innociv | nevermind.. |
| 17:31.21 | toropisco | innociv: users without passwords cannot login by default. |
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| 17:31.29 | innociv | "Accepted password for test6" "pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user test6" "fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory component ''/home/otheruser/" Hmm.. |
| 17:31.43 | innociv | Ah I think I know what. |
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| 17:32.59 | toropisco | innociv: And you could add libpam-abl to be even safer. Use it in combination or as a replacement for denyhosts. |
| 17:33.25 | innociv | sec |
| 17:33.55 | toropisco | innociv: you can also create a list of users not to log in and feed it to denyhosts. It is one of its (not supplied) config files. |
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| 17:34.23 | nirgal | Hello. Does anyone know about the changelog not being updated in the PTS? I mean http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/ contains old data (at least 2 week) for some packages... |
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| 17:34.40 | vitorlobo | Anybody uses debian squeeze modem d-link 500b? |
| 17:34.59 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/PQiEX6jL |
| 17:35.51 | vitorlobo | Anybody uses debian squeeze modem d-link 500b? |
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| 17:36.32 | innociv | That's how I'm creating a user, and there is the auto.log error. |
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| 17:37.46 | innociv | I was trying to follow http://blog.markvdb.be/2009/01/sftp-on-ubuntu-and-debian-in-9-easy.html but using usermod |
| 17:37.49 | innociv | useradd* |
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| 17:40.51 | teratoma | when i do a apt-get build source package, how do ise my gpg key to sign the debs so that i can put them in my custom repo later? |
| 17:41.28 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/PQiEX6jL Shows how I'm trying to create a user, and the error I get upon login. I was trying to follow http://blog.markvdb.be/2009/01/sftp-on-ubuntu-and-debian-in-9-easy.html but using useradd. |
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| 17:43.17 | iman | I recently installed debian squeeze, there is some thing wrong with me which is I can connect to internet with cable but I couldn't search my wireless network, how can I solve this ? |
| 17:44.35 | iman | it sounds debian doesn't support Dell Vostro 1520 |
| 17:44.45 | teratoma | do you have non free in your apt get sources? there is a package for nonfree wirelesss firmware |
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| 17:45.23 | themill | teratoma: debsign from devscripts |
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| 17:45.48 | mmnicolas | iman, your reasoning is flawed, your laptop isnt only a wifi card |
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| 17:46.31 | iman | mmnicolas, i didn't have same this with fedora |
| 17:48.04 | mmnicolas | debian might not support your wifi card out of the box but with the right package it should, just like fedora |
| 17:49.17 | mmnicolas | just find out the model and google it out |
| 17:49.22 | iman | mmnicolas, do you have any references about this terrible problem ? |
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| 17:50.06 | mmnicolas | im currently in a restaurant having breakfast so no, not at hand |
| 17:50.12 | ymas | for some reason, this video will play in epiphany but not in Iceweasel or a vanilla firefox-10 built from source and a firefox 9 (x86_64 official build), can someone confirm for iceweasel? |
| 17:50.25 | ymas | I'm using Debian Squeeze |
| 17:50.38 | mmnicolas | the problem is your wifi card manufacturer, you should complain to them |
| 17:50.48 | iman | mmnicolas, god job :) |
| 17:50.53 | ymas | link to video: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/10.0/firstrun/ |
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| 17:56.24 | Flynn | Hello. I have upgrade successfully from Squeeze to Testing on my netbook using a wireless, public connection. At home, my internet connection is very slow. Both my netbook and desktop are amd64 architectures. Is there a way that I can at least move the downloaded files to a particular folder on the desktop to make the upgrade faster (with my slow internet). |
| 17:56.25 | zykotic10 | ymas: the video is working here, with Iceweasel 9.0.1 (from m.d.n) and Gnash |
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| 17:56.27 | Flynn | ? |
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| 17:56.58 | zykotic10 | Flynn: check /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 17:57.30 | Flynn | zykotic10: And I should be able to copy any files there and they will be used from there instead of downloaded? |
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| 17:57.42 | zykotic10 | Flynn: correct |
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| 17:58.55 | ymas | zykotic10, flash (H.264) is alright here too, are you not getting the WebM version, that's the one that's not playing for me? |
| 17:58.59 | Flynn | zykotic10: Wonderful. Thanks. I see many of the files that I used in the upgrade in that folder. |
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| 17:59.22 | zykotic10 | Flynn: you should see all of them really ;) |
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| 17:59.39 | zykotic10 | ymas: i don't use proprietary flash, so can't really verify |
| 18:00.02 | ymas | zykotic10, flash is ok, I was more interested in VP8 (HTML 5) |
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| 18:00.12 | meta-coder | Flynn, some programs periodically clean that archive, so if you are planning to use the packages move them to another location or disable the auto-cleaning of the archive |
| 18:00.24 | zykotic10 | ymas: flash sucks... ;) |
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| 18:00.39 | ymas | zykotic10, I couldn't agree more |
| 18:00.55 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/VvmLcB32 When I run these commands, and log in, why is it giving 'fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory component "/home/myuser/"'? It's like it's trying to log that user into that dir they don't own. |
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| 18:01.15 | ymas | zykotic10, are you seeing the WebM version in iceweasel 9.0.1 (<video> tag) |
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| 18:02.03 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/VnpH4Y5h There is the hopefully relevant bit of sshd config as well. |
| 18:02.47 | zykotic10 | ymas: the <video> tag includes src="http://videos-cdn.mozilla.net/brand/Mozilla_Firefox_Manifesto_v0.2_640.webm"> in the page source, so i guess yes. |
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| 18:03.47 | ymas | zykotic10, thanks, I'll build iceweasel 9, for some reason, Debian is not liking the libvpx libraries bundled with vanilla firfox |
| 18:03.58 | zykotic10 | ymas: i run stable, but have had issues with webm. I use the "free" components of debian-multimedia to get metter webm support. |
| 18:05.06 | zykotic10 | ymas: not sure if that's related to firefox or not. I use iceweasel from m.d.n (as mentioned earlier) |
| 18:05.30 | ymas | zykotic10, thanks for your help and tips |
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| 18:06.28 | ymas | zykotic10, I'll get iceweasel 9 built on my Debian Squeeze, I didn't mean to come across as non-"free" supporter, unfortunately, I have to check my code on some proprietary plugins (by virtue of users of our services) :( |
| 18:07.32 | zykotic10 | ymas: i consider debian an excellent distro because it offers both free and non-free. Users choice. |
| 18:07.54 | ymas | zykotic10, that's why it's my distro of choice :) |
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| 18:09.57 | Burns | Hello |
| 18:10.17 | Burns | I just installed an FTP, and it loads me to /home/burn3rs when I use it |
| 18:10.29 | Burns | how to change the default directory to something like /var/www ? |
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| 18:11.23 | format_c | Which FTP deamon have u installed exactly? |
| 18:12.20 | zykotic10 | !ftpmustdie |
| 18:12.20 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html |
| 18:12.59 | Burns | proftpd |
| 18:13.48 | zykotic10 | Burns: check the proftpd conf file, your document root is probably set to ~ currently |
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| 18:15.52 | DexterF | hi |
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| 18:15.54 | Burns | That will works for multiple users ? |
| 18:16.18 | zykotic10 | Burns: IIRC yes (haven't use proftpd in years though) |
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| 18:17.48 | DexterF | dpkg says: use ifup/ifdown, I used to restart /etc/init.d/networking but that says it is deprecated. now - won't ifdown kill my ssh session? |
| 18:17.49 | dpkg | DexterF: what are you talking about? |
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| 18:20.52 | vitorlobo | Good afternoon. My d-link 500b modem does not allow access to Facebook. In the machine, use debian squezee. Someone give me a help? |
| 18:22.39 | vvor | vitorlobo: ??? |
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| 18:24.36 | vitorlobo | vvor, I replaced my modem intelbras by a d-link 500b lately. The problem now is that facebook does not open in debian squezee. But all other sites open. Does anyone know how to solve this? |
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| 18:26.03 | vvor | vitorlobo: can you ping FB |
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| 18:26.37 | format_c | vitorlobo: clear your browser's volatile data s.a. Cookies, cache, etc. |
| 18:26.37 | LinuxApprentice | 'when i put an audio cd in, why do i have to restart the computer to be able to listen to it? it's not auto-mounted ? |
| 18:27.21 | vitorlobo | format_c, I did this and did not solve. I used Opera, Mozilla, Chrome and the problem persists. |
| 18:28.11 | format_c | Does not show at all or login and further functions don't work? |
| 18:28.57 | vitorlobo | forfolias, logs but can not post anything. Loads forever. |
| 18:29.04 | format_c | If u use mozilla, open about:config and change the useragent string |
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| 18:29.23 | LordDeath | http://www.debian.org/security/2012/dsa-2391 <-- how comes that I can't find this update with apt-get yet? |
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| 18:29.29 | Hurr|cane | re |
| 18:29.47 | LordDeath | is this package currently only in some sort of test repository? |
| 18:29.48 | vitorlobo | format_c, but the problem is in the works and also chrome. |
| 18:30.19 | vitorlobo | format_c, *but the problem is in the "opera" and chrome as well. |
| 18:30.29 | format_c | vitorlobo: I'm not aware what other browsers user as useragent string under debnian |
| 18:30.39 | format_c | Do u use any type of proxy? |
| 18:30.52 | vitorlobo | format_c, no |
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| 18:31.28 | vvor | vitorlobo: you may have a blok option in the router can you ping FB? |
| 18:32.31 | format_c | Try move the dot directory of your browser and restart it to force a fresh state. |
| 18:32.56 | vitorlobo | vvor, I do not know how to do |
| 18:33.05 | format_c | Otherwize I can't help cause I don't have a FB account. |
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| 18:33.22 | LinuxApprentice | can someone tell me why i have to restart to play an audio cd? when i eject the drive and put a new cd in it won't come up unless i restart |
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| 18:33.55 | boudiccas | LinuxApprentice; using what desktop environment? |
| 18:34.02 | LinuxApprentice | boudiccas: gnome 2.x |
| 18:34.14 | zykotic10 | LinuxApprentice: and are you using the "eject" command, or the button on the drive? |
| 18:34.23 | LinuxApprentice | zykotic10: button on the drive |
| 18:34.49 | beardy | LinuxApprentice: Just open your media player and.. play it. |
| 18:34.49 | zykotic10 | LinuxApprentice: i'd test with the eject command then... good luck. |
| 18:35.04 | format_c | vitorlobo: e.g. mv .mozilla-firefox .mozilla-firefox_old |
| 18:35.25 | LinuxApprentice | beardy: it's not showing the device |
| 18:35.53 | beardy | LinuxApprentice: Showing? It is there. Open /dev/cdrom or what it links to. |
| 18:36.06 | LinuxApprentice | beardy: k |
| 18:36.07 | vitorlobo | I'm using iceweasel 9.0 |
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| 18:39.02 | LinuxApprentice | beardy: doesn't work. disk utility says there is no media in /dev/sr0 |
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| 18:39.16 | LinuxApprentice | beardy: and i can't get to it in rythmbox |
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| 18:39.30 | LinuxApprentice | beardy: but if i restart, there will be an icon on the desktop labeled 'audio cd' |
| 18:39.34 | vvor | format_c: if he cannot get FB in 3 browsers I would go a defrant path |
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| 18:39.36 | no_gravity | Hello! Im thinking about installing Debian on an encrypted partition. Debian 6 is the currently suggested version, and it can install in an encrypted partition out of the box, right? |
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| 18:40.52 | Bugson | guys I'm looking for some http analyzer for linux, like httpfox for firefox, any hints? |
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| 18:41.33 | no_gravity | Bugson: what do you want to do? |
| 18:42.12 | Bugson | sniff the ssl traffic on different port than 443 |
| 18:42.26 | Bugson | ofcourse http traffic |
| 18:42.32 | Bugson | just like httpfox does it |
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| 18:43.16 | Bugson | generally httpfox is great, but I need to sniff chrome |
| 18:43.22 | Bugson | to diagnose some plugin |
| 18:44.05 | no_gravity | I capture http traffic like this: tcpdump -s 9999 -w stuff -i ppp0 |
| 18:44.23 | no_gravity | Bugson: it writes all traffic to a file called "stuff" |
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| 18:44.52 | vvor | vitorlobo: what is your wm gnome? |
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| 18:45.11 | no_gravity | Bugson: or if you want a bit more filtered output, use this: tcpdump host www.yourdomain.com -A -s10000 | grep -Eo "(GET|POST).*$" |
| 18:45.21 | Bugson | no_gravity: but what with ssl, the data will encrypted |
| 18:45.24 | no_gravity | Bugson: that will only log get and post requests to your domain |
| 18:45.48 | vitorlobo | vvor, yes |
| 18:45.53 | no_gravity | Bugson: i dont know. try it and see or read up on tcpdump i guess. |
| 18:46.33 | vvor | start terminal Alt-F2 gnome-terminal or so |
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| 18:47.45 | skilz | How do I undo sudo ln -s /etc/cgiirc/ /var/www/cgiirc ??? |
| 18:48.44 | vvor | skilz: rm the link |
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| 18:48.52 | no_gravity | skilz: i would think with "rm -r /var/www/cgiirc" |
| 18:49.03 | no_gravity | or better without the -r |
| 18:49.38 | vvor | skilz: ie: rm -r /var/www/cgiirc |
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| 18:59.25 | UniOn | is libmysqlclient.so.15 also for debian 6 or only 5? |
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| 19:01.15 | format_c | UniOn: i think its more related to the mysql-server version. But AKAIK squeeze contains a newer version than lenny |
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| 19:02.13 | UniOn | But i have an error libmysqlclient.so.15 |
| 19:02.16 | UniOn | not found |
| 19:02.19 | UniOn | How can i install it |
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| 19:02.53 | UniOn | @ format_c |
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| 19:03.12 | edju | installed network-manager-kde (and all the stuff that came with it). but, how t start it? |
| 19:03.13 | format_c | Install apt-file, run apt-file update and run apt-file search libmysqlclient.so |
| 19:03.37 | format_c | Then you find the pakcage that contains the file |
| 19:03.41 | themill | UniOn: perhaps you can describe what it is that you're actually trying to do and what the complete error is. (Use a pastebin if there's lots of output) |
| 19:04.05 | format_c | Normally new versions do symbolic links to provide backward compatibility if applicable. |
| 19:04.12 | UniOn | Unable to find modules/mta_mysql.so (libmysqlclient.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 19:05.24 | format_c | That means that libmysqlclient.so reports that there is a file missing. mta_mysql.so sounds like something from a mail server. |
| 19:06.00 | edju | I tried nm, but I get a.out no such file. |
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| 19:06.52 | themill | edju: you can add a "network management" widget (plasmoid) to your plasma workspace by clicking on the golden cashew. You may prefer a newer widget and network-manager by getting plasma-widget-networkmanagement and network-manager from backports; /msg dpkg backports.debian.org |
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| 19:07.07 | themill | edju: (nm is an entirely different tool) |
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| 19:07.37 | edju | themill, thanks - shows what I know. |
| 19:07.48 | UniOn | how i install apt then |
| 19:07.50 | format_c | I couldn't find mta_mysql.so using apt-file. Is it a Debian package? |
| 19:08.01 | UniOn | mta is a game |
| 19:08.10 | UniOn | Multi Theft Auto |
| 19:08.13 | format_c | Ah |
| 19:08.25 | UniOn | The mysql is used for saving account data |
| 19:08.38 | format_c | From grand theft auto? |
| 19:08.41 | UniOn | yes |
| 19:08.45 | UniOn | but then online |
| 19:09.08 | UniOn | And mta_mysql.so is something i get from them |
| 19:09.20 | UniOn | but it need that mysql thing |
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| 19:09.36 | UniOn | But apt command not found how i install apt |
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| 19:10.30 | dioz | dpkg |
| 19:10.31 | format_c | Ask them where to put the file. |
| 19:10.46 | UniOn | That mta_mysql.so is install good |
| 19:10.59 | UniOn | But i need also (libmysqlclient.so.15 |
| 19:11.47 | dioz | UniOn: get the aptitude .deb and use dpkg to install |
| 19:11.54 | format_c | Paste ls -l /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.* |
| 19:12.47 | UniOn | ok |
| 19:12.51 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/VnpH4Y5h When I run these commands, and log in, why is it giving 'fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory component "/home/myuser/"'? It's like it's trying to log that user into that dir they don't own, instead of chrooting them to their dir. Can someone help me out? |
| 19:12.53 | format_c | !tell UniOn nopaste |
| 19:13.29 | UniOn | ls -l /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.* |
| 19:13.39 | UniOn | http://pastebin.com/M1mbD1pj |
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| 19:14.49 | format_c | Type ln -s /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.15 |
| 19:14.51 | dioz | wouldnt user exampleuser be /home/exampleuser/ ? |
| 19:14.59 | format_c | Then try again. |
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| 19:17.22 | UniOn | ln -s /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.15 |
| 19:17.24 | UniOn | Does nothing |
| 19:17.36 | UniOn | only creating symbolic link |
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| 19:18.24 | pjwaffle | Hey guys, what can I use to convert Divx6 avi file (which plays fine in VLC) to H.264 + AAC avi? |
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| 19:19.32 | pjwaffle | VLC complains about libavcodec (want a log?) |
| 19:19.38 | pjwaffle | (When I try to convert it) |
| 19:21.15 | uplip | pjwaffl, perhaps ffmpg is your friend |
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| 19:22.06 | pjwaffle | OK, but how? |
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| 19:27.51 | magnus_ | anyone know how to use the hardware acceleration introduced by adobe flash on linux a few versions ago? if I go on youtube, it's always using software rendering and software scaling. |
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| 19:30.11 | jelly-home | magnus_: do you have a nvidia card and its non-free drivers? |
| 19:31.07 | magnus_ | i have an amd radeon card, running fglrx proprietary drivers. seem to do direct rendering in my desktop environment (good 3d performance aswell) |
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| 19:33.13 | jelly-home | magnus_: I'm not sure Flash supports fglrx. You can try enabling EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode and perhaps OverrideGPUValidationin /etc/adobe/mms.cfg |
| 19:33.52 | magnus_ | if i rightclick a flash object in my browser, hit "Settings", there is a "Hardware acceleration"-checkbox. it's checked, but still, gettnig software rendering |
| 19:34.19 | magnus_ | hm, i don't even have a /etc/adobe directory |
| 19:35.33 | jelly-home | magnus_: make it. Read about mms.cfg on http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 19:36.45 | jelly-home | the example contents quoted there already have those two settings enabled |
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| 19:40.32 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/VnpH4Y5h When I run these commands, and log in, why is it giving 'fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory component "/home/myuser/"'? It's like it's trying to log that user into that dir they don't own, instead of chrooting them to their dir. Can someone help me out? |
| 19:41.43 | magnus_ | jelly-home, thanks. tried the mms.cfg thing, but doesn't seem to work. flash does pick up changes i make to the config (for example, tried disabling fullscreen, and afterwards i could no longer do fullscreen in firefox) |
| 19:41.47 | magnus_ | but still no hw accel |
| 19:42.41 | jelly-home | magnus_: have you closed the browser, verified no browser or flash processes were still alive, and started it again? |
| 19:43.34 | edju | running testing. last night, i put the machine to sleep, and upon awakening today, no wireless. google hasn't been much help. dhclient tries dhcpoffer until it times out. had wicd, but removed it and installed networkmanager. still nogo. tried manual essid, nada. I'm at a loss what to do next. |
| 19:44.24 | xingu | innociv: is the user's home dir /home/myuser (per getent passwd myuser) |
| 19:44.58 | xingu | innociv: if so... sshd_config manpage suggests that ChrootDirectory will chroot to that dir first, then, descend (from the false root) to the user's home dir |
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| 19:49.12 | innociv | xingu, I had -d in the command |
| 19:49.13 | innociv | Is that wrong? |
| 19:49.18 | innociv | Pretty much everything is there. |
| 19:50.03 | xingu | innociv: I'm interested to know what getent passwd myuser reports |
| 19:50.15 | xingu | innociv: also, is myuser actually in the sftp group? |
| 19:50.21 | innociv | exampleuser:x:2005:1004::/:/bin/sh |
| 19:50.25 | innociv | yes |
| 19:50.34 | innociv | 1004 is sftp group |
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| 19:51.28 | xingu | innociv: ok; next thought would be whether chrootdirectory needed its own copy of etc/passwd under the false root? |
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| 19:53.58 | xingu | innociv: I'm also assuming you have "Subsystem internal-sftp" enabled in the global section (of sshd_config) |
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| 19:56.07 | xingu | (well, technically, subsystem sftp internal-sftp, but you get the idea) |
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| 20:07.46 | Tertu | hello? |
| 20:08.28 | Tertu | does anybody know where the Mint IRC channel is, if there is one? |
| 20:08.52 | Tertu | i'm having some package conflict troubles |
| 20:09.01 | Kuifje111 | their site doesn't state an IRC channel? |
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| 20:09.56 | Tertu | i am running from the command line right now |
| 20:10.10 | Tertu | and i don't want to deal with lynx or elinks (though I guess I could) |
| 20:10.28 | Kuifje111 | ok, let me look for you |
| 20:10.32 | sephii | I spent the whole day trying to figure out how to make shutdown/restart stuff work with the slim login manager. Any clue about that? |
| 20:11.06 | vvor | How do I get a {1}bdb.ldif, to replace the {2}bdb.ldif. In /etc/openldap/slapd.d/cn\=config/olcDatabase\=\{2\}bdb after a re-install of openldap-servers. I did rm /var/lib/ldap/* & /etc/openldap/slapd.d before the re-install. thnxs. |
| 20:11.31 | Kuifje111 | Tertu: I found this: irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint-help #linuxmint-chat #pimpmymint |
| 20:13.09 | innociv | xingu, that's in my paste I think... |
| 20:13.13 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/VnpH4Y5h When I run these commands, and log in, why is it giving 'fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory component "/home/myuser/"'? It's like it's trying to log that user into that dir they don't own, instead of chrooting them to their dir. Can someone help me out? |
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| 20:13.34 | Tertu | okay more specifically |
| 20:13.49 | innociv | And what do you mean about having its own copy of etc/passwd? |
| 20:14.09 | Tertu | mint has two or so copies of the exact same packages |
| 20:14.09 | Tertu | not quite sure why |
| 20:14.12 | Tertu | but because of that it can't resolve dependencies and i can't update the kernel! |
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| 20:14.58 | xingu | innociv: the paste doesn't show "Subsystem sftp internal-sftp" (needs to be prior to the Match statement in the global block) |
| 20:15.17 | innociv | Hm maybe I did hte wrong paste |
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| 20:15.58 | innociv | Now pastebin isn't laoding |
| 20:16.26 | xingu | innociv: I'm not sure about the specific workings of internal-sftp; other things I've worked with in the past had /chroot/etc/passwd and actually used that copy after the chroot (but before setting the working directory) rather than the real /etc/passwd |
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| 20:16.41 | Tertu | also, i have an AMD Vision-based machine, so X won't start of course |
| 20:16.44 | innociv | It's supposed to be a lot easier this way, but I'm having issues. |
| 20:17.04 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/VnpH4Y5h Well it does have force-command in there, but yeah it is in there |
| 20:17.20 | zykotic10 | is it a bad idea to try going from squeeze->sid directly? (it's just a VM, and I'm wondering if going to testing first is "really" required) |
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| 20:17.37 | xingu | innociv: do you also have Subsystem... to enable internal-sftp? |
| 20:17.48 | innociv | mhm |
| 20:18.03 | innociv | Subsystem sftp internal-sftp |
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| 20:18.08 | xingu | perfect |
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| 20:18.15 | Tertu | looks like i finally got deps resolved |
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| 20:18.28 | Tertu | and it's upgrading the kernel packages now |
| 20:18.30 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/s9SnuetC |
| 20:20.45 | innociv | So, I'm not sure where I'm going wrong. |
| 20:21.40 | xingu | innociv: are you getting that error message when trying to use sftp, or, when using ssh? |
| 20:21.50 | tvm | innociv: go for #openssh |
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| 20:22.06 | innociv | And I was following http://blog.markvdb.be/2009/01/sftp-on-ubuntu-and-debian-in-9-easy.html |
| 20:22.12 | innociv | I get that message for ssh. For sftp I get um.. |
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| 20:23.01 | innociv | I simply get "Authentication Failed" |
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| 20:26.59 | konradb | what can be the issue? when i am moving window, scrolling websites or resizing windows my cpu usage is goint up to 70 -80%. |
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| 20:29.18 | innociv | how do i clear out the auth.log? I get permission denied even with sudo |
| 20:29.22 | xingu | innociv: I have a small suspicion that for at least the ssh case you'll need /var/httpd/myuser/etc/passwd to contain the result of "getent passwd myuser"; but as tvm said, maybe try #openssh |
| 20:29.38 | yoreh | Hey, I have a problem with usb transfer. When copying, for example, 1.5 GB file to my pendrive transfer rate starts out okay, but after a while it stops and then transfer only happens in bursts, with long delays inbetween. I've copied the same file to the same pendrive on Windows and there the transfer is steady and overall the process takes a lot less time to finish. |
| 20:29.49 | innociv | How might I actually include that for them? |
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| 20:31.00 | innociv | And it's the same error whether ssh or sftp in auth |
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| 20:36.18 | innociv | ymas, xingu, I figured it out. |
| 20:36.20 | cipher__ | In Openbox and Fluxbox gtk3 themes do not render correctly, the menu bar on terminal loads when it's explicitly checked not to, and loads with a delay. I am running an optimus setup and there are also some gpu rendering issues with some software. i would really appreciate some help, I have been going at it for days. http://i40.tinypic.com/15wzcyx.png |
| 20:36.22 | innociv | Hold onto your seats. |
| 20:36.26 | innociv | I wasn't closing the "Match". |
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| 20:36.56 | xingu | innociv: neat, good spot; I read some stuff on that but didn't consider it a likely contributor |
| 20:37.16 | innociv | I thought since it was at the end it was fine, too. |
| 20:37.20 | xingu | innociv: smells like a bug in the config parser to me in all fairness. |
| 20:37.34 | innociv | mhm |
| 20:37.51 | xingu | innociv: makes me wonder if the config parser doesn't actually process a match clause until it has a closure for it |
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| 20:38.39 | innociv | Aye |
| 20:38.42 | innociv | That sounds exactly it |
| 20:38.43 | xingu | still, easy enough to bandaid over |
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| 20:43.07 | adamrb | anyone have any experience doing backports for debian? |
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| 20:44.05 | adamrb | I'd like to do a cmake backport for lenny, but the backport tutorial online is a bit confusing |
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| 20:44.42 | bytes | hello |
| 20:44.44 | jordanm | what's confusing about it? |
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| 20:45.08 | bytes | i am planning on installing debian and i'm not sure whether to go with stable, testing, or unstable |
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| 20:45.41 | jordanm | adamrb: why are you backporting to a release that will be EOL soon? |
| 20:45.56 | cipher__ | bytes, I suggest you don't install unstable |
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| 20:46.10 | adamrb | I'm working on a platform that uses it... hp T5565 thin client |
| 20:46.11 | bytes | ok |
| 20:46.18 | adamrb | is based on debian lenny |
| 20:46.23 | adamrb | and I want to install freerdp on it |
| 20:46.24 | bytes | well i don't want my system to crash because of updates, but i don't want old packages either |
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| 20:46.31 | adamrb | freerdp uses cmake |
| 20:46.42 | adamrb | and I'd like a nicer way to have instructions for how to build it |
| 20:46.54 | adamrb | that doesn't involve wgetting the binary |
| 20:47.05 | bytes | jordanm, were you talking to me? |
| 20:47.09 | jordanm | bytes: no |
| 20:47.12 | bytes | oh ok |
| 20:47.14 | adamrb | the instructions at SimpleBackportCreation seem a bit magic |
| 20:47.45 | musca | bytes: do you know the backports-repo? |
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| 20:47.52 | bytes | no |
| 20:47.56 | jordanm | adamrb: http://backports-master.debian.org/Contribute/ |
| 20:48.05 | bytes | i am pretty new to linux i have used linux on and off |
| 20:48.15 | bytes | i just tried ubuntu and it's really slow |
| 20:48.17 | jordanm | adamrb: those intructions are for backporting for one machine, not getting a new version into debian-backports |
| 20:48.42 | jordanm | adamrb: there is nothing magic about that article. download the source package and compile it |
| 20:49.05 | bytes | i just want a machine that won't crash, and has fairly new packages |
| 20:49.22 | adamrb | ok; I'll try it...just seems like a weird process to make a backport |
| 20:49.32 | adamrb | like I'm installing the libraries on my own machine? |
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| 20:49.38 | musca | !tell bytes about backports |
| 20:49.42 | valdyn | bytes: changing distro because you think its slow is not a good reason |
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| 20:50.01 | valdyn | bytes: you will need to configure it differently, you will also have to configure debian |
| 20:50.16 | adamrb | I'll try it I guess the main thing is I don't understand the logic of what they are doing on that SimpleBackport Creation page |
| 20:50.33 | jordanm | adamrb: the instructions are for compiling a package that you intend to install on your machine |
| 20:50.36 | bytes | from using mint and fedora the newest release of ubuntu is bloated |
| 20:50.57 | adamrb | out of curiousity, what is the typical timeframe on approval of backports? |
| 20:51.03 | jordanm | adamrb: not for an upload to to debian-backports, but I really doubt a backport for a build system would be allowed anyways |
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| 20:51.21 | jordanm | adamrb: you have to get a sponsership. however long it takes for someone to want to sponser it |
| 20:51.29 | adamrb | ah ok |
| 20:51.44 | valdyn | bytes: again youre comparing distros from their default install, thats doesnt make sense when switching to debian |
| 20:51.59 | adamrb | maybe I am better off just telling people to wget the binary |
| 20:52.16 | adamrb | especially if it is EOL as you said and little interest for having cmake 2.8 in the lenny backports |
| 20:52.25 | jordanm | adamrb: maybe you are better of providing binary packages |
| 20:52.57 | bytes | valdyn: how about this, instead of getting os's based off one particular one, i just want the distro that basically all other distros base themselves out of |
| 20:52.58 | jordanm | ,versions cmake |
| 20:52.59 | judd | Package: cmake on i386 -- lenny: 2.6.0-6; squeeze: 2.8.2+dfsg.1-0+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.8.5-1~bpo60+1; sid: 2.8.5-1; wheezy: 2.8.5-1 |
| 20:53.13 | bytes | http://backports-master.debian.org/ |
| 20:53.16 | valdyn | bytes: ok, that doesnt exist |
| 20:53.19 | bytes | is this what you guys are talking baout |
| 20:53.35 | technologov | How-to black list a package from preseed ? |
| 20:53.50 | adamrb | judd: yeah I'm talking about getting 2.8 to lenny |
| 20:53.52 | adamrb | cmake 2.8 |
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| 20:54.33 | jordanm | adamrb: you would probably need to test that all current cmake packages will still build with cmake 2.8, but you can ask the backports list |
| 20:55.03 | jordanm | there is a backport for squeeze, but it is a minor version change |
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| 20:55.41 | adamrb | yeah I'm trying to avoid installing squeeze packages on the lenny box |
| 20:55.54 | jordanm | I wasn't suggesting that |
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| 20:58.03 | adwin1 | Hey all |
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| 20:58.29 | adwin1 | Can someone point me in the direction of extracting initrds compressed with pax? |
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| 20:59.17 | bytes | is the netinst image here http://www.debian.org/distrib/ stable, unstable, or testing? |
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| 20:59.39 | adwin1 | no, it's a general query |
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| 21:00.26 | bytes | if you guys were new to linux which debian version would you choose? |
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| 21:02.59 | k1ng | what is the best mail server? |
| 21:03.05 | jordanm | bytes: stable |
| 21:03.11 | zeref-lappy | bytes: stable |
| 21:03.26 | k1ng | ? |
| 21:03.27 | jordanm | !start a mta war |
| 21:03.27 | dpkg | Postfix sucks. |
| 21:03.34 | valdyn | k1ng: define "mail server" |
| 21:03.36 | k1ng | i agree |
| 21:03.44 | bytes | alright i have debian stable 6.0.3 downloaded, is there an option in the install screen to make it run side by side with windows or will i have to make partitions |
| 21:03.45 | k1ng | smtp and imap/pop |
| 21:04.05 | valdyn | k1ng: thats usually 2 server then |
| 21:04.10 | k1ng | dropmail is pain the ass |
| 21:04.11 | jordanm | bytes: as long as you don't do anything like delete your winodws partition, it will detect it properly |
| 21:04.28 | k1ng | valdyn, ok |
| 21:04.36 | k1ng | smtp is good, i just need pop3 |
| 21:04.38 | bytes | ok so i won't need to do any partitioning to my disk runnign windows 7 correct? |
| 21:04.49 | valdyn | k1ng: dovecot |
| 21:04.50 | zeref-lappy | nope |
| 21:05.25 | k1ng | i was wondering its gonna work with ispconfig |
| 21:06.27 | valdyn | I thought ispconfig was basically just a howto |
| 21:06.48 | jordanm | !ispconfig |
| 21:06.49 | dpkg | ISPConfig is a web hosting control panel available under the BSD license. http://www.ispconfig.org/ |
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| 21:08.14 | valdyn | k1ng: looks like it, search ispconfig.org |
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| 21:08.34 | k1ng | devocat works with mysql? |
| 21:08.51 | valdyn | k1ng: yes |
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| 21:10.51 | ilikenwf | have any of you tried implementing a secure memory wipe on shutdown? seems tails found a good way to do it, but i'm not sure where to start on a regular debian installlation |
| 21:10.56 | ilikenwf | https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/memory_erasure/ |
| 21:11.58 | jordanm | ilikenwf: isn't it a lot easier to just phsyically secure the server? |
| 21:12.18 | ilikenwf | yes, but in the case a raid or something happened, it's still an issue if they bring a sawzall |
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| 21:12.34 | ilikenwf | i don't have anything police raid worthy, this is a hobby... i'm paranoid |
| 21:13.10 | ilikenwf | with all the police state bullying going on around the world i just want a way to give them the finger if they mess ith me |
| 21:13.39 | valdyn | ilikenwf: its probably easier for them to waterboard you than to figure out passwords |
| 21:13.54 | valdyn | ilikenwf: or get data from ram |
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| 21:14.09 | ilikenwf | true... i've seen the xkcd thing too |
| 21:14.44 | ilikenwf | but imho it'd be nice if it was packaged and in the repos... |
| 21:14.50 | ilikenwf | if nothing else it's just good practice |
| 21:15.06 | ilikenwf | i mean, there's no reason not to |
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| 21:28.53 | amf | why doesnt x honor the DISPLAY env var through ssh'ing in (x is running)? this is a default testing install |
| 21:29.18 | joltcan | amf: did you use ssh -X? |
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| 21:29.40 | amf | i dont want to show x programs locally |
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| 21:29.49 | joltcan | amf: ..if you did want to forward X? otherwise export DISPLAY=:0 ? |
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| 21:30.09 | amf | i want to start them remotely so they display on my tv where using the mouse/keyboard is difficult |
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| 21:30.39 | joltcan | amf: like I said, then you need to export DISPLAY |
| 21:31.03 | amf | DISPLAY=:0 xeyes produces, "Error: Can't open display: :0" |
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| 21:31.35 | amf | x is running like: /usr/bin/Xorg :0 ... |
| 21:31.54 | joltcan | amf: sounds weird, I do that at work all the time |
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| 21:32.21 | joltcan | amf: did you ssh as the same user that X is running as? |
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| 21:32.51 | threadlock | win/win 20 |
| 21:32.58 | threadlock | meh! |
| 21:32.58 | threadlock | sry |
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| 21:34.13 | amf | joltcan: yes |
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| 21:35.32 | joltcan | amf: export DISPLAY=:0.0 is what I'm using, sorry |
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| 21:36.16 | amf | something definitely changed in wheezy to disable the DISPLAY var |
| 21:36.23 | amf | all google efforts have failed as well |
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| 21:37.21 | joltcan | amf: no clues in the x log file? |
| 21:38.02 | amf | joltcan: nope |
| 21:38.16 | joltcan | amf: time for laundry here, good luck |
| 21:38.29 | koisoke | amf: are you sure the x server is really on :0 |
| 21:38.30 | amf | nor the other system logs |
| 21:38.45 | koisoke | amf: i just tried it here with wheezy and it works fine |
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| 21:39.26 | amf | in an gnome terminal, echoing $DISPLAY produces :0 |
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| 21:40.56 | michaelgamble | hello |
| 21:41.00 | michaelgamble | got a question |
| 21:41.11 | simonlnu | just ask it ;) |
| 21:41.33 | michaelgamble | yeah sorry a.d.d lol |
| 21:41.52 | ksuhku | amf, could it be a problem with ~/.ICEauthority? |
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| 21:42.15 | michaelgamble | umm so i have a sphere server, and I'm noticing that in the template drop down the newest option is debian gnu / linux 5 … is that going to work with the latest version of debian? |
| 21:42.48 | simonlnu | is that some hosted/vps thing? |
| 21:43.06 | michaelgamble | its a vmware server |
| 21:43.14 | michaelgamble | sitting on an r710 |
| 21:43.21 | simonlnu | latest is 6.0.3 |
| 21:43.33 | simonlnu | (see /topic) |
| 21:43.37 | michaelgamble | hmm maybe a question better asked in #vmware |
| 21:43.44 | amf | ksuhku: ICEauthority is chmod 600 and owned by my user |
| 21:43.45 | simonlnu | yeh |
| 21:43.54 | michaelgamble | :) |
| 21:44.18 | simonlnu | because i have no idea if that's going to be the same as a lenny, or they add their own stuff to it as well. |
| 21:44.49 | amf | ksuhku: doing xhost + made it work |
| 21:44.59 | simonlnu | be careful with xhost |
| 21:45.10 | un214 | xhost + is for secured LAN only |
| 21:45.14 | simonlnu | !xhost |
| 21:45.14 | dpkg | xhost is EVIL! There are so many other ways of getting remote X apps to work that xhost should never be needed. For a more sensible approach, use SSH X11 forwarding, ask me about <sshx>. Also see <mit-magic-cookie>, http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html <nolisten> and "apt-cache show xbase-clients | grep xhost". To run applications on your local machine as another user, see <root x>. See also <xhost +localhost>. |
| 21:45.17 | amf | i understand |
| 21:45.23 | un214 | xhost hostname is a lot safer |
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| 21:45.53 | un214 | !xhost +localhost |
| 21:45.54 | dpkg | <Overfiend> xhost +localhost should only be done by people who would paint their hostname and root password on an interstate overpass. |
| 21:46.01 | simonlnu | hehe |
| 21:46.22 | ksuhku | amf, glad to hear |
| 21:46.24 | un214 | huh waht it's perfectly acceptable on a single user box |
| 21:46.48 | michaelgamble | don't suppose any of you guys have installed gitorious over debian b4.. thats what I'm attempting right now :) |
| 21:47.08 | simonlnu | overfiend used to package xfree86 and xorg, i think he knows what he was talking about ;) |
| 21:47.26 | simonlnu | michaelgamble: pretty easy actually |
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| 21:47.51 | simonlnu | i ran it with runit + gitdaemon |
| 21:47.51 | michaelgamble | yeah huh.. you wouldn't be able to point me to walkthrough that actually works would ya :p |
| 21:48.10 | michaelgamble | i see about 20 different tutorials, tried one yesterday and failed |
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| 21:48.30 | simonlnu | just need to have it point at the repo area, set up an admin, some ssh keys |
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| 21:49.42 | simonlnu | then have some access rules ... at first you'll be working from both a client and server, then once set up, you can work from the git-admin repo exclusively |
| 21:50.56 | simonlnu | there's also gitolite, their docs are better... but the tut on (hold a moment, lemme find it)... |
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| 21:51.51 | michaelgamble | yeah i really want the web ui for administrating git repos and user access |
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| 21:52.48 | simonlnu | oh nm... you're talking about gitorious.org ...? |
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| 21:53.35 | simonlnu | i thought you were talking about gitosis...doh |
| 21:53.50 | Rob______ | I'm trying to figure out how to use the cp command |
| 21:53.52 | Rob______ | I'm trying to copy all the contents from a single folder on my flash drive into /var/cache/apt/archives/. "cp /media/2893-21A2/Apt_Cache/ -r /var/cache/apt/archives/ -r" does not work. What is correct? |
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| 21:53.56 | simonlnu | http://gitorious.org/about/faq <, start there ;) |
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| 21:54.40 | zaltekk | has anyone here had luck setting up a squeeze install in which you fully encrypt the hdd and use a usb flash drive to boot the system? |
| 21:54.46 | simonlnu | michaelgamble: http://erikonrails.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/how-to-get-gitorious-running-on-your-own-server/ |
| 21:54.53 | zaltekk | ie, the /boot partition is on the usb drive |
| 21:55.00 | zaltekk | root is on the hdd |
| 21:55.26 | simonlnu | Rob______: man cp; you'll note in the manual it says -a. this copies a directory |
| 21:55.26 | valdyn | Rob______: cp -r ... ... |
| 21:55.55 | simonlnu | Rob______: you might also want to do shell globbing, to cp a whole bunch of files |
| 21:55.55 | michaelgamble | simonlnu: this the tut you used? |
| 21:56.00 | valdyn | simonlnu: thats something else |
| 21:56.25 | simonlnu | michaelgamble: no, confusion on my part. i set up gitosis not gitorious |
| 21:56.37 | Rob______ | It keeps saying "cannot create directory `/var/cache/apt/archives/Apt_Cache': Permission denied" |
| 21:56.39 | michaelgamble | ah ok no worries then |
| 21:56.47 | michaelgamble | i have a few tuts i want to try |
| 21:56.50 | valdyn | Rob______: so? |
| 21:56.53 | Rob______ | I know that I am trying to copy it when I am not root, but still ... I'm not trying to make a directory |
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| 21:57.05 | simonlnu | Rob______: um, you need to be root |
| 21:57.19 | simonlnu | or run it via sudo |
| 21:57.44 | michaelgamble | does debian 6.0.3 come with guy? |
| 21:57.46 | michaelgamble | erg |
| 21:57.53 | michaelgamble | darn osx auto-correct feature |
| 21:58.12 | michaelgamble | *GUI < does it come with a gui |
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| 21:58.24 | koeien | you can install a multitude |
| 21:58.36 | koeien | Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ... |
| 21:58.47 | koeien | the default is Gnome. |
| 21:58.52 | michaelgamble | right but out of the box? |
| 21:58.53 | valdyn | Rob______: youre not just copying the contents of Apt_Cache but the directory including its contents |
| 21:59.08 | valdyn | Rob______: this is simply how cp works. |
| 21:59.08 | koeien | michaelgamble: if you select "Desktop environment" during install (I believe that's the default) then yes |
| 21:59.23 | simonlnu | michaelgamble: default install installs something called the 'desktop' task (man tasksel), so yes |
| 21:59.35 | michaelgamble | ok cool |
| 21:59.42 | michaelgamble | was curious |
| 22:00.53 | michaelgamble | I'm very quickly becoming a big fan of linux distros |
| 22:01.13 | michaelgamble | only wish adobe had a linux version |
| 22:01.18 | michaelgamble | i would switch if they did |
| 22:02.00 | zaltekk | nobody? |
| 22:02.18 | Rob______ | valdyn: Thanks. I used mv and it is working fine. |
| 22:02.25 | zaltekk | also, how can i setup my system to run a program such as xlock when it hasn't received kbd/mouse input for 5 minutes? |
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| 22:03.14 | valdyn | zaltekk: your screensaver does that, see xscreensaver |
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| 22:03.28 | valdyn | zaltekk: or whatever ships with your desktop environment |
| 22:03.31 | zaltekk | valdyn: i don't have a screensaver |
| 22:03.35 | zaltekk | i don't have a desktop environment |
| 22:03.40 | valdyn | zaltekk: so run one |
| 22:03.55 | zaltekk | no? |
| 22:03.59 | zaltekk | that wasn't my question |
| 22:04.06 | zaltekk | you might as well be telling me "so run windows" |
| 22:04.16 | valdyn | zaltekk: no, your question was "how do I write a screensaver" |
| 22:04.16 | zaltekk | it's not related to what i asked |
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| 22:04.21 | zaltekk | no, it wasn't. |
| 22:04.25 | valdyn | zaltekk: yes. |
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| 22:04.57 | zaltekk | looks like xautolock is what i need. |
| 22:05.23 | zaltekk | valdyn: the main reason i don't want xscreensaver is that i want to use i3lock |
| 22:07.46 | valdyn | zaltekk: neat, I hadnt seen xautolock before |
| 22:07.52 | p01s0nb1t | man xlock show a "-lockdelay seconds", maybe it can do it |
| 22:07.59 | p01s0nb1t | mmm |
| 22:08.07 | zaltekk | p01s0nb1t: xautolock will work. it lets me specify a custom lock program |
| 22:08.08 | p01s0nb1t | no that does not read keyb or mouse |
| 22:08.45 | valdyn | zaltekk: I wonder if that works with --disable-screensaver from mplayer. |
| 22:08.59 | zaltekk | valdyn: i'll find out soon enough :P |
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| 22:21.29 | michaelgamble | ok debian question |
| 22:21.37 | Jazo | how can i know shell's ip? |
| 22:21.57 | valdyn | Jazo: a shell has an ip? |
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| 22:22.02 | michaelgamble | fresh install of debian.. created a new user .. and now i can't sudo as that user.. its saying that user is not in the sudoers file |
| 22:22.34 | koeien | michaelgamble: yes, that's not by default. |
| 22:22.35 | Jazo | PSYBNC.SYSTEM.HOST1=89.149.192.194 |
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| 22:22.45 | Jazo | valdyn for this |
| 22:22.46 | michaelgamble | hmm |
| 22:22.46 | taylorjonl | Is this the best or proper way to setup a local partition with .deb files that apt-get can see when installing? http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Local_Debian.html |
| 22:23.05 | koeien | michaelgamble: log in as root, enter visudo and change your sudoers file |
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| 22:24.12 | kingsley | How would you adjust the page margins in a lyx document? |
| 22:24.28 | michaelgamble | oh darn it i think i may have screwed up |
| 22:24.43 | michaelgamble | apparently its not recognizing my password for root user |
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| 22:25.26 | koeien | then restart, add init=/bin/sh to the kernel options |
| 22:25.32 | koeien | enter passwd, change your password |
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| 22:37.43 | innociv | Erm. I'm having trouble figure out how to set up my php-cli config from the debian package. There is no default ini for it, only the plugins? |
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| 22:38.05 | innociv | There is php5/cgi/php.ini but no php5/cli/php.ini. |
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| 22:39.57 | innociv | php -i |grep php\.ini "Configuration File (php.ini) Path => /etc/php5/cli" |
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| 22:40.19 | innociv | But there is no php.ini there. |
| 22:40.41 | e|f | <fanf1> linux is more compatible with unix than windows is with windows |
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| 22:42.10 | z28 | e|f: heh, that was funny.. excuse me channel! |
| 22:43.56 | anant | how do I install WINE on linux mint? |
| 22:44.03 | themill | innociv: a default squeeze installation of php5-cli would have "/etc/php5/cli/php.ini". |
| 22:44.09 | themill | anant: try asking the mint people. |
| 22:44.27 | themill | anant: you'll find them in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org |
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| 22:46.13 | innociv | There is nothing there. If I nano /etc/php5/cli/php.ini it's empty |
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| 22:49.10 | Jazo | how can i get my ssh IP? |
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| 22:51.30 | gimpy468 | Jazo: What do you mean? |
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| 22:52.06 | Jazo | i m creating bnc server but i need my ssh IP adres how can i get it |
| 22:53.14 | JPT | Jazo: when you want to ssh on a machine, you need to know its IP. If you own the machine and have physical access, it's easy to get its IP. |
| 22:53.43 | Jazo | yes i own the machine |
| 22:53.46 | Jazo | how can i get it? |
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| 22:54.06 | gimpy468 | You need to know the IP or hostname. If you are on the box '/sbin/ifconfig' will tell you what interfaces are up and listen on what IPs. |
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| 22:54.44 | p01s0nb1t | maybe you're looking for the client IP... there should be a "$SSH_CLIENT" or "$SSH_CONNECTION" |
| 22:55.00 | RomyRomy | hiiiiiii room, i'm a graphic designer chick who's kind of a linux (debian)/unix n00b |
| 22:55.25 | RomyRomy | linux/unix command line question. what is the command to find everything of a certain file in a current directory, and then simultaneously mass move all those files into another directory, interactively? here is what i have so far |
| 22:55.34 | Jazo | PSYBNC.SYSTEM.HOST1=* looking for this |
| 22:55.41 | RomyRomy | find . -name "*join.me*" -exec mv -i "{}" destination_folder/; |
| 22:56.13 | RomyRomy | but i got this error : find: -exec: no terminating ";" or "+" if anyone could tell me i would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. |
| 22:56.20 | koeien | you need to escape the ; |
| 22:56.25 | koeien | i.e. find . -.... \; |
| 22:56.42 | RomyRomy | koeien: hm? how do i escape it? |
| 22:56.48 | koeien | with a backslash. |
| 22:56.55 | RomyRomy | koeien: oh! you mean backslash and then ; |
| 22:56.58 | koeien | right |
| 22:57.02 | gimpy468 | RomyRomy: / is a directory in Linux. \ escapes things in the shell. |
| 22:57.04 | dioz | pascal? |
| 22:57.20 | RomyRomy | can i append the backslash to the forward slash immediately before my semicolon at the end there? |
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| 22:57.26 | koeien | no, i don't think so |
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| 22:57.36 | koeien | add a space in between |
| 22:57.40 | RomyRomy | koeien: will try |
| 22:58.02 | gimpy468 | RomyRomy: Your shell (most likely Bash) has many special characters. You always need to put them in quotes or escape them with \ tell tell Bash not to do snything special with them. |
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| 22:58.46 | gimpy468 | RomyRomy: You can append like that just fine: find . -name "*join.me*" -exec mv -i "{}" destination_folder/ \; |
| 22:59.15 | RomyRomy | it worked! |
| 22:59.18 | RomyRomy | YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 22:59.20 | RomyRomy | :D |
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| 22:59.52 | RomyRomy | by the way, i had to create the destination_folder directory prior to executing that command, with a 'mkdir destination_folder' command |
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| 23:00.02 | koeien | yes you do |
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| 23:00.06 | RomyRomy | is there anyway i can do that ALL in one line? |
| 23:00.13 | gimpy468 | RomyRomy: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/special-chars.html |
| 23:00.14 | koeien | mkdir destination_folder && ... |
| 23:00.24 | RomyRomy | koeien: i thought so |
| 23:00.59 | koeien | A && B executes A, and if it succeeds, executes B |
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| 23:02.04 | RomyRomy | thank you koeien |
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| 23:05.05 | epicfail | anjuta on debian is awfully outdated... is there a chance of getting a newer version without doing a sireous system upgrade |
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| 23:05.48 | RomyRomy | koeien: BTW i see you are also in the Haskell room also? May I ask what you do with Haskell? |
| 23:08.06 | koeien | RomyRomy: i'm trying to use it for computational geometry |
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| 23:09.48 | RomyRomy | koeien: mathematician, perhaps? |
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| 23:10.13 | koeien | student of |
| 23:11.14 | epicfail | anjuta on debian is awfully outdated... is there a chance of getting a newer version without doing a sireous system upgrade |
| 23:11.49 | koeien | epicfail: did you check out the backports? |
| 23:11.56 | gimpy468 | epicfail: What version of Debian and have you looked ta backports? |
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| 23:12.06 | epicfail | koeien, ye no good |
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| 23:12.33 | epicfail | gimpy468, no version in backports... normal verson is 2.something current stable is 3.something |
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| 23:12.51 | koeien | well that's gnome3 |
| 23:12.53 | themill | epicfail: newer version numbers doesn't actually mean a lot of change |
| 23:13.14 | koeien | so i doubt that you can install it easily |
| 23:13.43 | koeien | although it might be possible. |
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| 23:14.41 | epicfail | themill, i just want it to finish up codelines itselfs with tab or enter |
| 23:14.51 | RomyRomy | koeien: i am no mathematician but my best friends are math grad students and after talking to them, i became spellbound with algebraic geometry and topology. i haven't done any math, of course, but i have a read about torii, holes, elliptic curves and moduli spaces |
| 23:16.00 | koeien | heavy stuff for non-mathematicians. |
| 23:16.45 | RomyRomy | koeien: granted. but for non-mathematicians, there are copious amounts of info given generously on wikipedia. doesn't take more than scanning wikipedia articles for a few hours every now and then |
| 23:17.00 | koeien | wikipedia is very good for maths, true |
| 23:17.13 | RomyRomy | koeien: i spent some time reading about the poincare conjecture, also, and have the biography on grigory perelman. fascinating stuff |
| 23:17.34 | epicfail | guys can we focus on getting these feature in anjunka? |
| 23:17.39 | RomyRomy | fascinating stuff, all of it. topology, in particular. |
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| 23:20.07 | epicfail | never mind i help myself... nice watching u chatting... |
| 23:21.01 | Foolish | Hello, i would like to clone my remote dedicated server so I can reinstall its system quicker on the new server. Would http://cfengine.com/ helps for this case ? I found that after reading this : http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/wiki/Cloning_a_Debian_server |
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| 23:22.14 | RomyRomy | gimpy468: a little late but thank you for the special characters link |
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| 23:24.13 | BaLix | @Foolish: i never heard that you can clone a system with the cfengine |
| 23:24.25 | trist4n | netcat and dd |
| 23:24.26 | trist4n | -_- |
| 23:24.29 | BaLix | i use it for deploing some files on diffrent servers |
| 23:24.37 | BaLix | i would also say dd |
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| 23:44.44 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there directions for nvidia-glx to enable coolbits to overclock my card, within the repository packages? |
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| 23:47.01 | LinuxGuy2009 | Like documentation I should say. |
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| 23:59.43 | onryo | looking in iotops I can see that iceweasel is dumbing a lot of MB on my SSD. I have all ready moved /tmp (and other stufft) fstmp. I would like to dump ALL cached data to RAM and have it go bye bye (no rsync on restart) What is the best way of doing this? |
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