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| 16:20.38 | *** topic/#debian is squeeze (6.0.3) released; /msg dpkg squeeze ; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | lenny (5.0.9) /msg dpkg 5.0.9 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ | channel logs: http://deb.li/yQXC |
| 16:20.46 | webworker1 | Is there already a date when debian lenny security/support will be finished? |
| 16:21.09 | DelTree | yep... |
| 16:21.34 | DelTree | it has been published in a DSA... |
| 16:21.43 | webworker1 | I can't find the news :-(/ |
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| 16:22.09 | LinuxApprentice | AHOOOOOOOOOOOOY |
| 16:22.13 | DelTree | DSA-2360-1 ? |
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| 16:22.24 | dougmencken | hi! |
| 16:22.52 | dougmencken | why debian has no 'cpat' ncurses-based solirairepatience game in repos? |
| 16:23.09 | DelTree | precisely... how did my memory catch it... DSA-2360-1 dated 6 dec 2011 announced it for two months later... |
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| 16:23.59 | webworker1 | sorry, I didn't look at debian stuff for several years :-(
the last version I used very often was potato and woody :-D
back in the good old days when snow tasted better and enlightenment already had stuff OSX users are happy about today |
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| 16:24.15 | ianliu | I've set a local repository with mini-dinstall and dput. How can I add my repo in other PC's from my network? |
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| 16:27.36 | sKeiths | fdisk and cfdisk are telling me that my disk is unsupported. and to use GNU Parted. could this be the reason GRUB is not working? |
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| 16:29.19 | dougmencken | no help here ; so /window close |
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| 16:33.02 | Twinkletoes | some people hae no patience |
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| 16:34.04 | bolt | why isn't "setaf" mentioned in tput's manual? |
| 16:34.07 | bolt | it's still implemented... |
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| 16:37.11 | clustermagnet | guys… deb 6.0.2… regular users are not able to sftp in… root can…. :) can someone help? :) thx! |
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| 16:37.43 | clustermagnet | maybe it has something to do with ssh keys... |
| 16:37.57 | clustermagnet | if keys exist , password authentication is omitted? hmmm |
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| 16:38.44 | clustermagnet | nancy--: ec2? :) |
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| 16:39.10 | nancy-- | clustermagnet, did we had a chat before? |
| 16:39.22 | clustermagnet | no we did had not haz one :) |
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| 16:39.37 | nancy-- | clustermagnet, what is ec2? |
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| 16:39.44 | nancy-- | how much will it cost and i get? |
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| 16:41.56 | nancy-- | clustermagnet, ? |
| 16:42.06 | clustermagnet | yep, just tested…. if an account has a .ssh/authorized_keys… file… he's not able to sftp in with password auth |
| 16:42.13 | clustermagnet | nancy--: google |
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| 16:42.37 | nancy-- | clustermagnet, any comments you like to make about ec2 ? why you suggested it? |
| 16:42.51 | clustermagnet | erm… google :) |
| 16:43.10 | nancy-- | clustermagnet, why you suggested it? |
| 16:43.21 | clustermagnet | im not spoon feeding you |
| 16:43.22 | clustermagnet | google |
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| 16:46.06 | sKeiths | i still can't get my system to boot by itself.i can't find a tutorial that will help. i can boot my system using SuperGrubDisk. If i do grub-install /dev/sda I get a warning that the GPT partition label has no bios boot partition. i'm really stuck. |
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| 16:46.55 | clustermagnet | sKeiths: uhm, /dev/sda has a bootable flag (set via fdisk), ya |
| 16:46.57 | clustermagnet | im shooting in dark |
| 16:47.27 | sKeiths | the util fdisk does not support GPT |
| 16:47.46 | clustermagnet | gparted then |
| 16:47.50 | clustermagnet | something… google :) |
| 16:47.51 | jpinx | sKeiths: try cfdisk or other variations |
| 16:48.10 | sKeiths | cfdisk says same thin. gparted says can't get display |
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| 16:48.27 | clustermagnet | jpinx: have you ever seen a sftp/ssh account battle it out for authentication based on sshkeys? :) |
| 16:49.01 | jpinx | sKeiths: giyf |
| 16:49.05 | clustermagnet | sKeiths: apt-get install parted |
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| 16:49.50 | clustermagnet | sKeiths: then type 'parted' :))) gparted is the graphical version of the same donkey |
| 16:49.50 | jpinx | clustermagnet: not really - -I am ssh and sftp'd into the same box, same user, same password at the same time without issues |
| 16:49.58 | sKeiths | ty clustermagnet, was going to say 'unable to find package giyf' |
| 16:50.02 | clustermagnet | jpinx: check this out…. |
| 16:50.47 | clustermagnet | jpinx: if authorized_keys files is there…. ssh works fine, but sftp sessions open and close :) |
| 16:51.05 | clustermagnet | if you move the authorized_keys to wtf… ssh starts prompting for passwords, and sftp starts working |
| 16:51.10 | clustermagnet | its almost like you cant have both :) |
| 16:51.22 | clustermagnet | i want sshkeys for ssh… and password auth for sftp |
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| 16:51.30 | clustermagnet | have a feeling its a pam thing |
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| 16:55.21 | sKeiths | tried - parted - set 1 boot on - rebooted - still get GRUB _ - booted using superGrubDisk again. |
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| 16:59.45 | sKeiths | it says i need to update my fstab, but i dont think grub system is getting that far fstab = http://paste.debian.net/153626/ |
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| 17:00.21 | nancy-- | clustermagnet, why you suggested it? |
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| 17:01.34 | ratatata | nu |
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| 17:03.17 | linux00002 | how do i find out why a package was installed? Can I query what package depends on it? |
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| 17:03.35 | linux00002 | that would probably be why it was instaleld |
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| 17:05.57 | jaakkos | aptitude why |
| 17:06.04 | dijenerate | hi all |
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| 17:06.42 | dijenerate | I have written a script for independent monitoring and logging system resources on my squeeze server |
| 17:07.23 | dijenerate | I'm using xrandr to detect the connection status of the display on the server but each time it runs (every 5 seconds) it spikes the system resources |
| 17:07.40 | dijenerate | is there another way to detect the connected display and it's status other than xrandr? |
| 17:08.41 | DragonSlay | how can i reduce the system startup time |
| 17:09.57 | loop- | anyone feel like describing to me what bugs were worked out with networkmanager recently |
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| 17:11.26 | DragonSlay | loop-, i'm not aware of it but is it possible to view bugs in launchpad or sourceforge where it is hosted? |
| 17:12.20 | loop- | is polkit part of debian? |
| 17:14.00 | DragonSlay | asking me? |
| 17:15.32 | jhutchins_lt | loop-: It's part of gnome |
| 17:15.51 | loop- | so polkit-kde-auth is part of gnome? |
| 17:15.52 | jhutchins_lt | loop-: For network manager read the change log. |
| 17:16.22 | jhutchins_lt | loop-: Since squeeze's release there haven't been many problems with it, it's now more likely to work than wicd. |
| 17:17.10 | loop- | neither work as well as command line in my experience |
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| 17:17.37 | JasonWoof | how do I change my cursor theme? I think I set it in gnome 2, but now I've got gnome 3 |
| 17:18.07 | jhutchins_lt | loop-: Probably time to update your experience then. |
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| 17:18.19 | loop- | why is that |
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| 17:18.32 | jhutchins_lt | loop-: For a static connection there's no point in NM, but if you have a roaming laptop it's pretty essential. |
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| 17:20.34 | oops | $ mkdir a; ln -s a b; rm -r b/ |
| 17:20.34 | oops | rm: cannot remove `b': Too many levels of symbolic links |
| 17:20.46 | oops | why do I get that when I append a forward slash? |
| 17:21.15 | JasonWoof | oops: if you add a slash after a symbolic link to a directory, it operates on the destination, not the link |
| 17:21.46 | oops | Jasonn, then why that error message? |
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| 17:22.36 | JasonWoof | oops: probably some feature to stop you from accidentally erasing "a" when you meant to erase "b" |
| 17:23.01 | oops | JasonWoof, okay. |
| 17:23.17 | JasonWoof | oops: rm -rf might work |
| 17:23.28 | JasonWoof | oops: "-f" generally means "no really, just do it, I know what I'm doing" |
| 17:23.47 | JasonWoof | oops: but then you can't complain if you delete your entire home directory or something |
| 17:23.54 | oops | rm -rf removes neither the link nor the target. |
| 17:24.15 | JasonWoof | I don't see why you'd want to delete through a symlink |
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| 17:24.41 | JasonWoof | b is a symlink, which you can delete with: rm b |
| 17:25.03 | JasonWoof | a is a directory, which you can delete with: rmdir a (or if it's got stuff in it, and you want to delete the whole tree: rm -rf a) |
| 17:25.25 | sKeiths | okay, now i've made it worse. superGrubDisk no longer works |
| 17:25.44 | JasonWoof | oops: you could probably do: cd b; rm -rf . |
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| 17:25.50 | JasonWoof | oops: but it's risky |
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| 17:26.30 | JasonWoof | generally you want to make sure you're deleting the right thing |
| 17:26.38 | JasonWoof | which is probably why it doesn't delete targets of symlics |
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| 17:29.01 | sKeiths | there seems to be some confusion between /dev/hd0 and /dev/sda |
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| 17:48.30 | stwange | is converting a single drive RAID 0 to a two drive on with a "degraded" drive to rebuilt onto possible with mdadm? Google suggests not, but most of the posts are a year old so I'm wondering (hoping) it has changed |
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| 18:01.27 | dill | left click stoped working again |
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| 18:07.24 | rascal999 | i have read only root, but i get the following issue on boot fsck.ext3: Operation not permitted while trying to open /dev/xvda2, can it be fixed? |
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| 18:10.34 | jhutchins_lt | rascal999: Did you do shutdown -Fr now? |
| 18:10.54 | jhutchins_lt | rascal999: Or are you booting to rescue mode and running it manually? |
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| 18:11.18 | rascal999 | jhutchins_lt: i'm trying to boot read only root image in xen |
| 18:11.37 | rascal999 | jhutchins_lt: but this doesn't work, is there an argument you can pass to kernel stating ro fs? |
| 18:11.53 | jhutchins_lt | rascal999: I don't know of one, there may be for xen. |
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| 18:12.55 | rascal999 | jhutchins_lt: you can't append ro to grub loader? |
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| 18:13.25 | jhutchins_lt | rascal999: Oh, you can append, I just don't know what. |
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| 18:17.45 | innociv | Why doesn't apt-get remove apache2 actually remove apache2? |
| 18:18.12 | Cyclohexane | try purging it first |
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| 18:19.09 | innociv | apt-get purge apache2? I tried that |
| 18:19.28 | themill | innociv: it does remove the apache2 package. Are you sure that's the package that needs removing? |
| 18:19.40 | innociv | I don't know |
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| 18:19.50 | Silent | Hello. |
| 18:19.58 | Silent | Is there a kit for building a custom live CD? |
| 18:20.06 | Silent | I'm tring to get my server to run from RAM. |
| 18:20.10 | Silent | trying** |
| 18:20.32 | somiaj | Silent: live.debian.net |
| 18:21.18 | somiaj | you can download one of 4 default live images and their is documentation on creating your own from a list of debian packages you want put into it |
| 18:21.18 | Cyclohexane | innociv there is another package i think you should remove something like apache-cli |
| 18:21.18 | innociv | yeah I did apache2* and that seemed to do it |
| 18:21.18 | Silent | Thanks, I got it. |
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| 18:24.52 | Silent | I'm so temped to give up. |
| 18:25.01 | Silent | Why is it in Spanish or whatever? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/HowTo/Step-by-Step |
| 18:25.02 | Silent | Ahh |
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| 18:26.40 | laidback_01 | Open it with Chromium and have it translated on the fly for you. that should be good enough |
| 18:26.56 | Silent | I don't use Chrome, sorry. |
| 18:27.07 | Silent | I'll figure a way to translate it |
| 18:27.21 | Silent | I'm just wondering why is that in Spanish. |
| 18:27.25 | laidback_01 | don't apologize to me, I gave you a very workable solution... |
| 18:27.37 | laidback_01 | it's in Portuguese - as identified by chromium |
| 18:27.41 | toxboi | jhutchins_lt: restarting the network interface doesn't drops the connection |
| 18:27.49 | Silent | Yes, thanks you :) |
| 18:27.58 | laidback_01 | and it's probably in the native language of the author |
| 18:28.03 | Silent | Oh Prtuguese |
| 18:28.39 | Silent | Oh well. |
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| 18:29.40 | tabakhase_ | hees fooling me! scp -r /etc/openvpn host2: scp: ./openvpn: Not a directory file /etc/openvpn = directory |
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| 18:31.33 | thewanderer1 | tabakhase_, it means the directory on the target |
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| 18:31.55 | thewanderer1 | if there's already a file named like that on destination, it will fail with this exact message |
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| 18:32.59 | tabakhase_ | thewanderer1 hö? im already using exacly the same command for pushing contents of another folder to the machine |
| 18:32.59 | tabakhase_ | so same target host |
| 18:33.01 | yetr2 | W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG AED4B06F473041FA Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 18:33.07 | yetr2 | ^ not sure how to fix |
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| 18:33.23 | tabakhase_ | and this folder where not existent during the first push, yes, but it "keeps working" even now the folder is existing |
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| 18:34.35 | thewanderer1 | yetr2, it's a cryptographic signature error... is someone mounting a man-in-the-middle attack against you? |
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| 18:35.36 | themill | !badsig |
| 18:35.36 | dpkg | A BADSIG error from apt-get update means that the signature on the Release.gpg file doesn't match the Release file. This happens if the mirror has an old ftpsync script, if there is a proxy inserting jibberish into files, or if the remote repository has been corrupted. Usually this will resolve itself. Check the signature yourself; ask me about <secure apt>. |
| 18:35.42 | yetr2 | thewanderer1: if they are, then they are doing it pretty awesomely since I'm using two different non-caching proxy servers |
| 18:35.49 | thewanderer1 | aha :P |
| 18:36.02 | themill | proxy servers are normally the problem |
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| 18:36.37 | themill | (that and web login forms from various wireless access points) |
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| 18:36.53 | thewanderer1 | tabakhase_, if ~/openvpn exists on target, it should fail |
| 18:36.55 | ardian | hi can you go from debian stable, to unstable ? |
| 18:37.02 | ardian | by changing the sources.list |
| 18:37.08 | thewanderer1 | ardian, you can, but you probably don't want to... |
| 18:37.38 | tabakhase_ | thewanderer1 lol? it goes to ~? shouldnt "no path" mean "same path as used on the source" |
| 18:37.45 | ardian | thewanderer1, I tried to install Debian unstable from a usb stick and for some reason mouse and keybpard didn't work I guess the GUI was freezing |
| 18:37.50 | thewanderer1 | tabakhase_, nope |
| 18:38.15 | thewanderer1 | tabakhase_, not as far as I know, at least |
| 18:38.37 | thewanderer1 | ardian, well, what you were expecting, that's why it's called "unstable"... |
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| 18:39.26 | tabakhase_ | thewanderer1 thats explaining a lot.. so im looking for scp -r /etc/openvpn host2:/etc and will endup with a new/updated /etc/openvpn on host2" |
| 18:39.37 | ardian | thewanderer1, hmm what problems could I have if I changed the sources ? |
| 18:39.41 | acu | From a Hard Disk (/home/obama/share ) I have to find select and move all files & folders older than 2 years into a new hard disk /mnt/newhardisk/ladygaga - any hints how to do that ? |
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| 18:40.16 | thewanderer1 | ardian, all possible problems that you can imagine after you upgrade, ranging from "low graphics performance" to "oops, all my files were deleted." |
| 18:40.30 | themill | ardian: if you're asking these questions, I'd say "lots". unstable isn't a great place for new debian users to play around |
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| 18:41.46 | tabakhase_ | shame on me :D |
| 18:41.48 | qwd | ardian: as long as you keep backups and expect everything to crash and burn any day you'll be fine. just make sure you won't be sorry the day something happens. |
| 18:41.54 | somiaj | acu: the files have a timestamp on them, and I belive you can use find to find only files with a paticular timestamp and copy/move those |
| 18:42.15 | ardian | hmm I im going to use stable im scared now |
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| 18:42.55 | thewanderer1 | ardian, if you need updated versions of software, there is backports.debian.org |
| 18:43.07 | qwd | acu: I found a bunch of stuff when googling: rscync files older than. I'm too lazy to |
| 18:43.10 | somiaj | acu: the -atime option in find may do what you want. |
| 18:43.58 | sKeiths | sorry for repeating but i have still not been able to resolve my problem. I have GPT + amd64 + sda1 which is a ext2 boot partition flag grub_bios and sda2 which is lvm. grub refuses to start and i can't find info on google. people whom have gotten answers before to this problem all point to some dead webpage. |
| 18:44.01 | ardian | thewanderer1, ou the first line descibres me awesome thanks a lot |
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| 18:46.21 | MarkG123 | Hi, I keep getting errors in my inbox from cron, and I can't seem to fix the problem: gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on homedir `/etc/spamassassin/sa-update-keys' |
| 18:46.25 | MarkG123 | Can someone help |
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| 18:47.27 | thewanderer1 | MarkG123, check the ownership and access mode, figure out what a sensible setting would be, adjust |
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| 18:47.49 | MarkG123 | I have tried that! |
| 18:48.41 | MarkG123 | the /etc/spamassassin director is currently: dr-xr-x--- spamd:spamd |
| 18:48.48 | jhutchins_lt | MarkG123: The spamassassin docs say what the permissions should be. |
| 18:49.53 | Jordan_U | sKeiths: The BIOS Boot Partition must *not* contain a filesystem as grub-install will overwrite the first part of the partition http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#BIOS-installation |
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| 18:50.06 | jhutchins_lt | wonders what would happen if MarkG123 pasted that error into google... |
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| 18:50.42 | MarkG123 | knows the answer, lots of random unrelated crap |
| 18:50.53 | sKeiths | Jordan. i think i get it now, i need another partition, not boot or lvm |
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| 18:51.32 | Jordan_U | sKeiths: You do not need a separate /boot/ partition. You *do* need a BIOS Boot Partition. Do you understand the difference? |
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| 18:52.47 | sKeiths | i'll resize my 256mb boot partition to free up space for another partition |
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| 18:53.16 | Jordan_U | sKeiths: Why not just get rid of the /boot/ partition? It sounds like its been clobbered anyway. |
| 18:53.27 | sKeiths | fear. |
| 18:54.21 | MarkG123 | OK, I have searched docs and allsorts. I have an old tarball, of my /etc can I find out from the permissions and owner WERE when it used to work? |
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| 18:54.57 | MarkG123 | or is the a IRC help channel that doesn't treat Linux newbies like idiots? |
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| 18:55.59 | sKeiths | i'll make a backup of boot, then delete it. then make two new partitions. bbiaf |
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| 19:00.06 | sKeiths | i can't mount /boot/ , it says corupt root inode. if i e2fsck it , it comes back clean |
| 19:01.00 | sKeiths | is it easy to remake /boot/ without the old content |
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| 19:01.56 | thewanderer1 | you'd need to re-install the kernel packages and update-grub... also probably rewrite device.map beforehand |
| 19:02.56 | simonlnu | gee, prejudiced much (that MarkG dude)? |
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| 19:06.01 | MyTh88 | hi there! any hints why i can't get more than 10-15 frames in enemy territory, even installing the proprietary nvidia drivers? system is more than fast enought |
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| 19:07.27 | simonlnu | start with: 'glxinfo | grep -i direct' if it says Yes then you're off to a good start |
| 19:07.43 | abrotman | you installed teh .run from nvidia.com and didn't do it correctly and now your system is running off VESA ? |
| 19:07.45 | MyTh88 | direct rendering is yes! |
| 19:07.57 | MyTh88 | nope i installed "the debian way" |
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| 19:08.57 | MyTh88 | i also deleted the .etwolf directory to be sure |
| 19:08.59 | ska | Will I be able to upgrade Deb5 to Deb6 after the Feb6, 2012 EOL ?? |
| 19:09.10 | simonlnu | yes |
| 19:09.12 | abrotman | ska: yes |
| 19:09.22 | abrotman | ska: you just won't get updates or security support |
| 19:09.30 | simonlnu | it's 5.x that's going not 6 ;) |
| 19:09.57 | abrotman | he didn't say that ? |
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| 19:10.28 | simonlnu | by implication |
| 19:10.33 | MyTh88 | abrotman: other ideas? |
| 19:10.57 | simonlnu | MyTh88: check your bios settings maybe |
| 19:11.13 | abrotman | mumbles about nvidia |
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| 19:11.25 | simonlnu | leaving out the obvious ;) |
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| 19:11.52 | MyTh88 | simonlnu: never changed something there...some time ago i was on ubuntu it worked well |
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| 19:12.38 | abrotman | did you actually make sure you're using the nviid adriver? |
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| 19:13.03 | MyTh88 | i think so! |
| 19:13.41 | simonlnu | check your Xorg log |
| 19:14.15 | MyTh88 | ahhhh ok, there's somethin bad |
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| 19:15.38 | MyTh88 | or not: could you give it a look? http://pastebin.com/yHWsjzY7 |
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| 19:17.24 | tdrusk | I have a hp laserjet 1018. I installed with a net install and have been adding onto it. I used system-config-printer to install it, but under printer state it says "idle - /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed" and I can't print to it. |
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| 19:18.43 | simonlnu | MyTh88: other than it being confused, i don't see much of a problem |
| 19:19.31 | simonlnu | might want to attend to that silly xinerama thing and tell it to ignore it. xinerama is deprecated, iirc |
| 19:19.44 | MyTh88 | simonlnu: so i'm fd up? even ET does not give me usefull output :/ |
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| 19:20.08 | simonlnu | didn't say that |
| 19:20.41 | simonlnu | it is however using 768 MB of system ram |
| 19:21.01 | ska | abrotman: thanks.. I have a client that refuses to allow me to upgrade as of yet. |
| 19:21.14 | simonlnu | dunno what sort of machine you got there, but you might want to look at that too |
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| 19:22.09 | MyTh88 | amd phenom x4 965, 8 gb ddr3 ram, asus 870a-ud3 rev. 3 mobo |
| 19:22.33 | simonlnu | ok, so 768 mb won't matter |
| 19:22.57 | MyTh88 | not really...but it's still strange |
| 19:23.43 | simonlnu | do you have an xorg.conf, or is it auto? |
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| 19:24.05 | abrotman | ska: you did explain .. security .. right ? |
| 19:24.31 | simonlnu | MyTh88: you might want to generate one so you can tweak (X -configure) it |
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| 19:25.37 | MyTh88 | with nvidia-xconfig? i did this after rebooting, when x didn't load :P |
| 19:25.37 | MyTh88 | could it be something for the wrong DPI detected? |
| 19:26.03 | simonlnu | possibly. no, with X -configure like i said |
| 19:27.15 | MyTh88 | 2 minutes and i'm back thanks simonlnu |
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| 19:36.59 | else- | i have a problem with grub2 since i did an upgrade: the core.img does not fit on the disk (the first partition starts at sector 63). is there anything i can do besides resizing and moving the partition? |
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| 19:37.41 | tvm | hi, recently something odd happened and i noticed 'initializing swap .. failed' at the startup |
| 19:37.57 | tvm | swapon /dev/sda5 says, operation not permitted (while being of course, root) |
| 19:38.52 | tvm | fdisk -l shows, that the partition exists and is correctly type 82 :- |
| 19:38.56 | tvm | :-/ |
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| 19:39.18 | tvm | swapon -v is also of no help, still the 'operation denied' |
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| 19:41.02 | sKeiths | yay, i now have a grub> prompt. thats further than i have been all day. |
| 19:41.05 | RichardC | so i've got a debian networking question |
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| 19:42.20 | RichardC | in the past i had a windows 7 "server" set up to get all of its networking info via dhcp from my router. however, i had windows get it a static ip. |
| 19:42.24 | RichardC | how can i do the same in debian |
| 19:42.29 | RichardC | dhcp is working |
| 19:42.42 | RichardC | i just need a static ip to set up port forwarding |
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| 19:43.00 | Bartzy | if I have a directory where www-data needs to write files to, and root needs as well (It's a log directory). Can I just use www-data as owner and 'adm' as the group, and root will be able to write to it because it's.. root ? |
| 19:43.05 | Bartzy | or is there a better solution ? |
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| 19:45.23 | MyTh88 | simonlnu: i made it to fix that bad DPI issue by passing 96 dpi manually in xorg.conf, small victory :) |
| 19:45.28 | ceed^ | Hi, I'm not using Gnome. Can I not apply gtk3 based themes without running Gnome? |
| 19:45.47 | MyTh88 | for ET? don't really know...i forgot to tell you i'm on 64 bit |
| 19:47.05 | sKeiths | is there a backup copy of /boot in some share directory? or is /boot only copy |
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| 19:47.32 | ska | abrotman: yea, but they don't get it.. plus they complain about outdated software.. frustration. |
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| 19:53.50 | thewanderer1 | ceed^, GNOME2 used to have gnome-settings-daemon that you needed to run for your visual preferences to take effect - try finding something similar in your current environment |
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| 19:54.17 | mllie | Hello |
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| 19:54.25 | thewanderer1 | and yes, GNOME3 apps do look awful now under KDE for me - the guys seem to have broken all compatibility with other DEs |
| 19:54.38 | thewanderer1 | (nothing supports notification area icons, either...) |
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| 19:56.18 | sKeiths | suppose not :( |
| 19:56.34 | sKeiths | that'd be too easy |
| 19:56.37 | sKeiths | hehe |
| 19:56.41 | mllie | I have a problem that every time I close terminal even the ssh-agent is closed. So my ssh-add isn't saved anymore.. How can I fix that? |
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| 19:57.30 | dkr | mllie: nohup |
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| 19:57.58 | riot | um.. hi |
| 19:58.21 | dkr | or launch ssh-agent from you .xinitrc or whatever the equivalent is for your desktop env |
| 19:58.24 | mllie | dkr: ? |
| 19:58.33 | riot | i just upgraded my wheezy server and ldap is gone, it seems related to this bug 628237 - at least i get the same error message |
| 19:58.43 | dkr | mllie: nohup is a way to prevent background procs from exiting when you exit your terminal |
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| 19:58.48 | riot | (that bug is marked "fixed".. wtf) |
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| 20:00.49 | mllie | dkr: do I do nohup eval `ssh-agent` then? |
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| 20:03.04 | riot | hmmm, there it is again, as bug 655845 |
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| 20:04.17 | alecs1 | hi; after upgrading acpi related packages and reboot I'm missing most entries in /proc/acpi, particularly /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ |
| 20:04.54 | alecs1 | which causes the KDE acpi monitor to suspend the laptop and other behaviours |
| 20:05.00 | alecs1 | what should I check? |
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| 20:05.30 | thewanderer1 | alecs1, this looks like a kernel issue, not userspace... |
| 20:05.45 | thewanderer1 | unless you call the kernel "acpi-related" |
| 20:06.19 | alecs1 | hmm, looking at the upgrade logs it was both the kernel and acpi-support |
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| 20:07.08 | thewanderer1 | alecs1, I'm missing /proc/acpi/acpi_adapter as well, not sure if it should really be there.. let me plug the thing in |
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| 20:08.46 | thewanderer1 | alecs1, nope, no such directory, but KDE still works "fine" (the applet has occasional state freezes where it doesn't update display, but it detects battery charge properly) |
| 20:09.03 | thewanderer1 | it might help if you tell us what software versions you are running |
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| 20:11.50 | alecs1 | it's kernel 3.2.0-1-amd64, KDE 4.7.4, acpi-support 0.138-12 and generally the latest Unstable packages |
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| 20:12.17 | alecs1 | I thought that /proc/acpi/acpi_adapter is the file responsible for this |
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| 20:18.39 | epicfail | guys someone know whats wrong with gwibber? |
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| 20:22.09 | epicfail | gwibber dont work with twitter at all... someone has a clue what to do? |
| 20:22.15 | abrotman | ska: doesn't sound like someone has all their marbles |
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| 20:25.34 | Marezz | Hi guys, is Gnome3/GS in testing? |
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| 20:26.08 | sKeiths | i got booted to busybox. how do i get to full debain? |
| 20:28.23 | GNU\colossus | what's the canonical directory for user-specific (subdir of ~) wallpaper files? |
| 20:29.31 | thewanderer1 | there doesn't seem to be any... |
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| 20:30.01 | jhutchins2 | GNU\colossus: Which desktop? |
| 20:30.25 | GNU\colossus | jhutchins2, I was hoping for some kind of freedesktop.org-blessed standard :) |
| 20:30.36 | thewanderer1 | tries to avoid a Ubuntu "Canonical" joke |
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| 20:32.47 | jhutchins2 | ,versions sun-java6-plugin |
| 20:32.52 | judd | Package: sun-java6-plugin on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 6-26-0lenny1; squeeze/non-free: 6.26-0squeeze1 |
| 20:33.19 | jhutchins2 | Curiously not on wheezy. |
| 20:33.47 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins2, I think it has something to do with Oracle voiding the license... just a guess |
| 20:34.04 | thewanderer1 | (and nothing actually works on openjdk JRE) |
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| 20:41.18 | epicfail | gwibber dont work with twitter at all... someone has a clue what to do? |
| 20:41.53 | sepisultrum | How do I find out what packages are installed explicitely (without being a dependency)? |
| 20:42.13 | yetr2 | I keep getting a BADSIG error when trying to run aptitude update, keeps happening on Err http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates Release |
| 20:42.32 | lautriv | according to the changelog of xorg, input-evtouch should be a dependeny of input-all since 7.2-2..........however this package does not even exist on 7.6-9 what gives ? |
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| 20:47.55 | jhutchins2 | thewanderer1: Ah, oracle may not allow secondary distributions or something. |
| 20:48.14 | jhutchins2 | thewanderer1: I wonder if that's why the Juniper SSL VPN won't work with 6-26? |
| 20:48.40 | thewanderer1 | I have no idea about Juniper $anything, sorry |
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| 20:52.47 | jhutchins | I think they merged with Astaro. Linux based firewall & VPN appliances. |
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| 20:54.11 | jhutchins | This is a browser based thing that's more like Citrix. You don't get an actual network connection, it's all in-browser. |
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| 20:58.06 | cconstantine_ | I'm using monit to monitor a process and I'm getting notified way more than I need to. In particular I'm getting notified when the pid or ppid changes, and I really don't care about those events. Is there anyway to filter those out globally? |
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| 21:01.57 | Devilicious | strange |
| 21:02.00 | Devilicious | i compiled |
| 21:02.01 | Devilicious | ee |
| 21:02.05 | Devilicious | ./configured |
| 21:02.08 | Devilicious | make && make install |
| 21:02.14 | Devilicious | php5.3.8 |
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| 21:02.23 | Devilicious | doing php -r "phpinfo();" | grep Version |
| 21:02.28 | Devilicious | shows me 5.3.9 |
| 21:02.34 | Devilicious | going to phpinfo file i made |
| 21:02.48 | Devilicious | shows 5.3.8 (i had php 5.3.8 previously installed) |
| 21:02.54 | Devilicious | didin't remove it or anything... |
| 21:03.00 | Devilicious | i've restarted my lighttpd |
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| 21:05.15 | Aut0Exec | hi guys... quick quiestion.... how stable is "unstable" ?? |
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| 21:06.08 | dondelelcaro | Aut0Exec: not at all stable; it changes constantly, with varying degrees of breakage. |
| 21:06.14 | dondelelcaro | Aut0Exec: if you have to ask, it's not for you. |
| 21:06.39 | Aut0Exec | i see |
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| 21:06.56 | Aut0Exec | well is there a branch that i can use that i can get a more up to date packages? |
| 21:06.58 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, you should *never* run "make install" anything on a Debian system, you're doing it wrong (also, you have just installed rubbish...) |
| 21:07.08 | koeien | Aut0Exec: backports |
| 21:07.22 | koeien | Aut0Exec: this uses debian stable, and you can pick some more up-to-date packages. |
| 21:07.32 | Aut0Exec | koeien: can you link me? |
| 21:07.53 | koeien | Aut0Exec: not everything is provided. you can check your favorite packages |
| 21:07.54 | Devilicious | well |
| 21:07.56 | koeien | backports.debian.org |
| 21:08.02 | Devilicious | i needed PHP to have openSSL extension |
| 21:08.18 | Aut0Exec | koeien: awesomeness bro |
| 21:08.18 | Devilicious | but to get that... it needs to be compiled with the PHP... there's no openSSL extension for it in apt-get |
| 21:08.23 | Aut0Exec | koeien: thanks... is this what you use? |
| 21:08.35 | koeien | Aut0Exec: i use debian stable with some backports |
| 21:08.47 | tabakhase_ | are there _any_ variables heartbeat hands over to the ressourceStarter? |
| 21:08.47 | Aut0Exec | koeien: ok ok nice |
| 21:08.48 | koeien | i prefer stable systems, not like arch for example |
| 21:08.57 | Aut0Exec | yeah i used arch |
| 21:09.00 | Aut0Exec | broke to much |
| 21:09.01 | Aut0Exec | i hate that |
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| 21:09.36 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, `apt-cache show php5`. read it very, very carefully. |
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| 21:11.27 | Devilicious | i'm not sure where you pointing @ thewanderer1 |
| 21:11.58 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, the description contains a list of extensions that are compiled in. can you see "openssl" in it? |
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| 21:13.03 | Mogget | I have been trying "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" for a while now to get right altgr to work, but for some reasson i cannot get it to work. Any sugestions? |
| 21:13.06 | Devilicious | am i missing someting from it |
| 21:13.11 | Devilicious | but i don't see openssl here |
| 21:13.21 | Devilicious | going apt-cache show php5 | grep openssl shows nothing |
| 21:13.26 | Devilicious | doing* |
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| 21:13.49 | nze | how can I keep grub from trying to reinstall itself after kernel updates? |
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| 21:14.29 | nze | I looked in /etc/kernel/ but there are only hooks for grub-update |
| 21:15.45 | Devilicious | so to answer your question thewanderer1, no, i don't see openssl in it |
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| 21:16.18 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, what does `lsb_release -a` say? |
| 21:16.19 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, it's not always good to get stuff from backports. |
| 21:16.34 | Aut0Exec | Mephisto: why? |
| 21:16.34 | Devilicious | 6.0.3 squeeze |
| 21:16.43 | Devilicious | no LSB modules are available |
| 21:16.44 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, sometimes only if you have no other choice, but things there tend to be glitchy a bit and worse than stable stuff. |
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| 21:16.56 | apatheticsheep | howdy all |
| 21:16.57 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, sometimes they're better, sometimes not. |
| 21:17.10 | Aut0Exec | Mephisto: so what do you do if u want an up to date package? |
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| 21:17.19 | MyTh88 | simonlnu: i resolved it! i was just thinking and thinking about x86_64...and remembered that i forgot to install nvidia-glx-ia32 :D |
| 21:17.27 | MyTh88 | thanks for your help indeed |
| 21:17.31 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, how about here? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/php5-cgi |
| 21:17.51 | Woet | when I do mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb1 |
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| 21:17.59 | Woet | how does mdadm determine which disk to copy to which? |
| 21:18.04 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, well, if i face the problem of course i try backports, but not always it helps. For example, i wouldn't upgrade xserver-xorg and all free video stuff from it. There's some probs in it. |
| 21:18.07 | Woet | or does it merge them? |
| 21:18.11 | Devilicious | hmm alright |
| 21:18.12 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, and I specifically pointed you at php5-cgi, *not* php5 package which does *not* include the extension list. |
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| 21:18.24 | Aut0Exec | k |
| 21:18.27 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, not critical though, but still.. i remember i got an error when i tried to add one more resolution mode using backported radeon drivers. |
| 21:18.36 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, with stable ones no error. |
| 21:18.47 | Aut0Exec | yeah well..i wouldnt mess with it for video stuff |
| 21:18.52 | nze | it doesn't seem to be a postinstall hook of the linux-image package either |
| 21:18.54 | Aut0Exec | or critical stuff |
| 21:19.00 | Devilicious | thewanderer1 no you didn't, you specifically pointer me to "php5" : (23:09:36) <thewanderer1> Devilicious, `apt-cache show php5`. read it very, very carefully. |
| 21:19.13 | Aut0Exec | unstalbe video is bad |
| 21:19.37 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, oh crap, my bad :( |
| 21:19.48 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, also, i wanted a newer Audacious, cause old one is just a bit glitchy... it's version 2.3. On backports it's 2.4, which is ain't better, and moreover cyrillic tags decoding is missing in its options (i'm russian). |
| 21:19.55 | Devilicious | and if the php includes openssl, it shouldn't throw me an error telling that it doesn't |
| 21:20.00 | Devilicious | stream_socket_enable_crypto() [streams.crypto]: this stream does not support SSL/crypto |
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| 21:20.17 | Devilicious | which appearently means that i'm missing openssl extension from the PHP |
| 21:20.20 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, and lotsa other things. Now for good stuff: Iceweasel 3.6 is good. I like that version more than superior ones. |
| 21:20.27 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, I believe it refers to the stream not supporting SSL, not SSL missing |
| 21:20.35 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, what transport are you trying to use? |
| 21:20.41 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, i love backports for at least that little thing :) |
| 21:20.43 | Aut0Exec | Mephisto: yeah if something is unstalbe then just install... then reinstall stable |
| 21:20.45 | koeien | Aut0Exec: yes i use iceweasel from another repo |
| 21:20.51 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, exactly, that's what i do. |
| 21:20.54 | Devilicious | xmpp |
| 21:21.03 | Mephisto | koeien, which one? |
| 21:21.05 | Devilicious | em |
| 21:21.06 | Aut0Exec | koeien: which? |
| 21:21.09 | Devilicious | xml stream |
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| 21:21.12 | koeien | mozilla.debian.net iirc |
| 21:21.19 | Mephisto | hm. |
| 21:21.25 | Mephisto | let's see.. |
| 21:21.26 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, is it a TCP stream or a stream from some extension? |
| 21:21.46 | koeien | i need a recent browser for WebGL |
| 21:21.47 | Mephisto | it's the same |
| 21:21.55 | Mephisto | it's also from backports, buddyt |
| 21:21.58 | Mephisto | i got the same link |
| 21:22.04 | Mephisto | it just doesn't show it straight in URL |
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| 21:23.24 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, so yeah, if you DO really know what you need to upgrade/test for any improvement then you can freely give backports a go... but it's totally not encouraged to upgrade just all you can from backports. Then you'll be having hard days reverting it all to stable one just to find what exactly gives you pain in the ass. |
| 21:23.46 | Mephisto | Aut0Exec, backports is like Wine.... use in case of sharp necessity and despair :) |
| 21:23.51 | Mephisto | and don't rely much on it. |
| 21:24.04 | Devilicious | it's a TCP as far as i know |
| 21:24.14 | Devilicious | using fsockopen on chat.facebook.com |
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| 21:25.12 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, try socket_create and socket_connect instead |
| 21:25.19 | apatheticsheep | I have installed debian on a VM which i plan to use as a spam filter for an exchange server. is there a nice walk through on the most effective way to set this, which MTA to use and filtering packages? |
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| 21:26.02 | jelly-home | koeien: if you don't care about it being non-free, Google Chrome |
| 21:26.15 | Devilicious | socket_create is undefined function |
| 21:26.20 | koeien | jelly-home: i like iceweasel/firefox better |
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| 21:26.47 | bs0d | Hello everybody |
| 21:26.53 | Mephisto | i think it's only Debian and Ubuntu where you can get Iceweasel/Firefox 3.6 still. |
| 21:26.58 | jelly-home | koeien: but you also like WebGL |
| 21:27.04 | koeien | yes, so? |
| 21:27.06 | Mephisto | and not 9.0 |
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| 21:27.18 | bs0d | Mephisto 3.6 is very old |
| 21:27.22 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, this: http://pl.php.net/socket_create is supposed to be there... |
| 21:27.30 | Mephisto | bs0d, not really |
| 21:27.33 | Devilicious | i know |
| 21:27.36 | Devilicious | i just looked that |
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| 21:27.44 | Devilicious | Fatal error: Call to undefined function socket_create() |
| 21:27.54 | Mephisto | bs0d, it's perfectly fine. It's still updated. It's just "inferior" to real latest version. |
| 21:28.00 | Mephisto | bs0d, but it's still good and i love it. |
| 21:28.12 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, does phpinfo() list the extension you want? |
| 21:28.21 | bs0d | I use iceweasel too, my favourite :) |
| 21:28.27 | Mephisto | bs0d, it serves all my needs and no page tells me that my browsers requires immediate upgrade :) |
| 21:28.40 | Mephisto | bs0d, to be honest, i use Opera, but only because of font. |
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| 21:28.42 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, specifically, look for "sockets" section |
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| 21:28.44 | Mephisto | bs0d, that's another story. |
| 21:28.53 | Mephisto | bs0d, but i can use iceweasel too. |
| 21:28.57 | Devilicious | nothing about openssl |
| 21:29.16 | bs0d | but I have discovered a slight problem in style rendering in iceweasel, on gmail.com page |
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| 21:29.37 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, is there at least socket listed? |
| 21:29.50 | bs0d | the cursor is bound to the upper border of input text boxes, not in its center, as it should be and is in Windows .. |
| 21:29.52 | Mephisto | bs0d, opera's font is sharp just like on windows XP. Of course, i'm using sharpfonts script... but it doesn't help against chrome or iceweasel unfortunatelly... some bold fonts are still jaggy, i hate that thing. Every linux distro has that.... |
| 21:30.02 | Mephisto | bs0d, it can be fixed though, but you need to know how. |
| 21:30.18 | Mephisto | bs0d, and there's few solutions anywhere on how to actually acomplish that. |
| 21:30.38 | Devilicious | no tharkun |
| 21:30.40 | Devilicious | damit |
| 21:30.42 | Devilicious | no thewanderer1 |
| 21:30.44 | Mephisto | also.. opera uses different rendering engine... that's why it shows crystal clear fonts unlike the rest. |
| 21:30.46 | Devilicious | nothing about "socket" too |
| 21:31.20 | bs0d | Mephisto, I think clear fonts can be put to any browser, isn't it true? |
| 21:31.21 | apatheticsheep | I am building a spam filter, should i use exim, postfix or qmail? |
| 21:31.37 | Mephisto | bs0d, true, you can just turn off antialiasing, that's the easiest way |
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| 21:31.49 | Mephisto | bs0d, BUT.... that will result in some broken fonts too. |
| 21:31.56 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, it doesn't seem right... what PHP version are you running and where did you get it? |
| 21:32.07 | Mephisto | bs0d, you need to know how substitute those fonts.... |
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| 21:32.15 | Devilicious | shows it's a 5.3.8 |
| 21:32.16 | Mephisto | bs0d, and that's not easy... |
| 21:32.23 | Devilicious | i got it from apt-get i believe |
| 21:32.36 | Devilicious | should i like |
| 21:32.37 | Devilicious | reinstall it? |
| 21:32.44 | bs0d | as I understood, everything needs practice in Linux :) Thats ok for browser as well :) |
| 21:32.47 | Mephisto | bs0d, i thought too that it's no prob... but it is actually... takes you to do a lot of shit... i still dunno how to do it. |
| 21:32.50 | Guest47912 | help-me |
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| 21:33.03 | Guest47912 | ndivia for debian squeeze |
| 21:33.11 | Guest47912 | ndivia for debian squeeze helpe-me |
| 21:33.27 | Mephisto | bs0d, if that was easy i would've already solved it by now :) |
| 21:33.36 | jelly-home | koeien: Chrome seems to support it better, compare lighting on eg. http://madebyevan.com/webgl-water/ |
| 21:33.39 | jhutchins | Wow, Estonia. Not gonna find a native language channel for that. |
| 21:33.52 | bs0d | Mephisto why not just choose an easy way and use some other browser? |
| 21:34.09 | Mephisto | bs0d, that's what i'm doing! That's why i'm using Opera instead of beloved Iceweasel :) |
| 21:34.10 | Dedex | ndivia for debian squeeze helpe-me |
| 21:34.27 | koeien | jelly-home: ok, i can't be bothered to install google chrome for that, so i'll take your word for it :) the main reason for webGL is my own app, and there it works |
| 21:34.30 | Dedex | ndivia for debian squeeze helpe-me |
| 21:34.32 | bs0d | Dedex, do you mean nvidia drivers? |
| 21:34.36 | jhutchins | !tell Dede about nvidia |
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| 21:34.58 | Dedex | yes |
| 21:35.23 | Dedex | nvidia drivers for debian |
| 21:35.29 | bs0d | damn, I have forgotten the command. Here was a clever bot which gave me definite instructions on how to install them and it worked |
| 21:35.44 | bs0d | anyway, I'll pastebin commnds you could run |
| 21:35.45 | jhutchins | bs0d: The bot just sent a PM to Dedex |
| 21:35.45 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, apt-cache policy php5 |
| 21:35.59 | jelly-home | jhutchins: nope, it sent a PM to "Dede" |
| 21:36.08 | Devilicious | i see |
| 21:36.09 | jhutchins | !tell Dedex about nvidia |
| 21:36.18 | jhutchins | jelly-home: Tppppb. |
| 21:36.20 | Devilicious | so i guess i did install it my own |
| 21:36.33 | jelly-home | jhutchins: "nvidia dkms" is possibly better |
| 21:36.41 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, just install the Debian package from the official repo, you'll save yourself trouble |
| 21:36.49 | jhutchins | !tell Dedex about nvidia dkms |
| 21:36.51 | Devilicious | i had to have a reason |
| 21:36.54 | Devilicious | to install it my own |
| 21:36.59 | Devilicious | not from the offical repo.. |
| 21:37.01 | jhutchins | jelly-home: So noted, thanks. |
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| 21:37.28 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, yeah, you fell for the version numbers... :P |
| 21:38.00 | Devilicious | could be tho... |
| 21:38.02 | Devilicious | alright |
| 21:38.07 | Devilicious | so what should i do now |
| 21:38.10 | Devilicious | going apt-get install php5 |
| 21:38.15 | Devilicious | tells me it's installed and latest |
| 21:39.08 | Dedex | I do not understand |
| 21:39.40 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, remove whatever is there currently... I suggest a --purge (back up your configs first!) to get rid of weird settings |
| 21:40.06 | Devilicious | you mean like |
| 21:40.11 | Devilicious | rm -fr /etc/php5 ? |
| 21:40.25 | Devilicious | under the remove... |
| 21:40.45 | thewanderer1 | no, I mean apt-get remove --purge |
| 21:42.16 | bs0d | Dedex, try those commands: http://www.everfall.com/paste/id.php?khae8f15cebo they worked for me |
| 21:42.53 | bs0d | substitute [kernel version] and [arch] to your appropriate values .. in my case it was linux-headers-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 21:43.44 | bs0d | ok guys, if we have started talking about packages removal, I have a question |
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| 21:44.09 | bs0d | Why does purge remove only package itself? How do I remove the package and its dependencies as well? |
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| 21:44.43 | Devilicious | thewanderer1 i don't get it |
| 21:44.48 | Devilicious | i remove --purge php5... |
| 21:44.52 | Devilicious | apt-get install php5 |
| 21:44.56 | Devilicious | so it should be 5.3.3 right |
| 21:45.01 | Devilicious | phpinfo still shows me 5.3.8 |
| 21:45.03 | Devilicious | O.o |
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| 21:46.26 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, apt-get -t stable install php5 |
| 21:46.46 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, also, can you paste what `apt-cache policy php5` says? |
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| 21:47.15 | Devilicious | http://pastebin.com/sZUNmWSA |
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| 21:49.23 | Devilicious | thewanderer1 |
| 21:49.26 | Devilicious | this makes no sense at all |
| 21:49.32 | Devilicious | apt-cache shows me |
| 21:49.36 | Devilicious | installed 5.3.3 right |
| 21:49.39 | Devilicious | phpinfo file shows me |
| 21:49.43 | Devilicious | version 5.3.8 |
| 21:49.51 | Devilicious | php -v shows me PHP 5.3.9 |
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| 21:49.56 | streuner_ | judd, version phpinfo |
| 21:49.57 | judd | No package named 'phpinfo' was found in i386. |
| 21:49.58 | Devilicious | so appareantly i have 3 versions of PHP installed? |
| 21:50.07 | streuner_ | judd, versions phpinfo |
| 21:50.08 | judd | No package named 'phpinfo' was found in i386. |
| 21:50.10 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, please paste the output of `ls -R /usr/local` to http://paste.debian.net |
| 21:50.20 | thewanderer1 | streuner_, it's a function in PHP language |
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| 21:51.42 | bs0d | Dedex did it help you? |
| 21:52.13 | Devilicious | http://pastebin.com/vUYWtf36 |
| 21:52.14 | Devilicious | thewanderer1 |
| 21:53.26 | Mephisto | question |
| 21:53.27 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, yeah, looks like you have multiple installs of PHP - you need to pay attention to which one gets run |
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| 21:53.41 | nutron | no one knows how to force a logrotate? =( |
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| 21:53.44 | Devilicious | they still have only one config files |
| 21:53.50 | Devilicious | how can i remove the other installations ? |
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| 21:53.59 | Mephisto | on the Panel in Places i have bookmarks but in Bookmarks section. How do i put them straight in Places? |
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| 21:54.08 | thewanderer1 | Devilicious, well, delete the associated files |
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| 21:55.43 | bs0d | Guys, do we have 64-bit compatible Wine in Debian repository? |
| 21:56.16 | bs0d | I've heard that Debian has only 32-bit wine in repo... but I prefer not to listen to rumors and ask on the channel |
| 21:56.40 | jhutchins_lt | bs0d: Did you try aptitude search wine? |
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| 21:57.23 | bs0d | yes, I tried it. It is there, but Im not sure if it is a 64-bit version of wine |
| 21:57.28 | bs0d | how can I check this? |
| 21:57.32 | Mephisto | bs0d, it doesn't matter. |
| 21:57.35 | Mephisto | bs0d, it will work |
| 21:57.41 | Mephisto | bs0d, it's 64 i think. |
| 21:57.54 | Mephisto | bs0d, and anyways, you don't want that old wine... let me give you something |
| 21:58.03 | bs0d | the point is, that 32-bit wine cannot emulate 64-bit applications, and I definitely need a 64-bit one |
| 21:58.08 | thewanderer1 | Mephisto, but old wine is good wine... |
| 21:58.18 | thewanderer1 | bs0d, the Wine in Debian is 32-bit AFAIK |
| 21:58.29 | Mephisto | thewanderer1, not in this case. It supports less things, trust me... |
| 21:58.34 | Mephisto | http://www.debiangeekz.blogspot.com/ |
| 21:58.37 | Mephisto | here, read this. |
| 21:58.52 | phlogisto | Mephisto, you don't drink wine, do you? xD |
| 21:58.58 | thewanderer1 | by the way, is there even upstream support for amd64 arch in Wine? |
| 21:59.02 | Mephisto | phlogisto, why i certainly do sir) |
| 21:59.07 | phlogisto | :D |
| 21:59.13 | Mephisto | phlogisto, but i know the limits ;) |
| 21:59.38 | Mephisto | in Debian if app is either one or other opposite architecture it would tell you. |
| 21:59.43 | sk99 | Sorry to interrupt, but I just upgraded the firmware on my Kingston HyperX SSD, now the boot times has increased and I'm getting these messages, but the device seems to work: http://pastebin.com/du1JyjcM |
| 22:00.02 | Mephisto | it's not 86-64, it's either 86 or 64. |
| 22:00.04 | sk99 | Anyone seen anything similar before? |
| 22:00.14 | Mephisto | x86* |
| 22:00.21 | thewanderer1 | sk99, did you have a reason for the firmware upgrade? |
| 22:00.57 | sk99 | thewanderer1, windows 7 crashed some times and I guessed it could be related to the controller |
| 22:01.03 | sk99 | figured it couldn't hurt |
| 22:01.05 | sk99 | :/ |
| 22:01.13 | thewanderer1 | sk99, uh. firmware often has regressions... |
| 22:02.25 | phlogisto | Mephisto, I thought x86 refers to instruction set and 64 to the size of registers.. |
| 22:02.28 | sk99 | hm so perhaps load the old firmware module if kingston will provide it might help? |
| 22:02.56 | bs0d | so where can I get a 64-bit wine? I need to emulate 64-bit system to run a game |
| 22:03.03 | Mephisto | phlogisto, i'm talking about 32bit (which is often marked as x86) and 64-bit architecture. |
| 22:03.26 | Mephisto | bs0d, listen.. if you want it so bad you can try PCBSD, there's 32-bit Wine and 64-bit one. |
| 22:03.34 | thewanderer1 | sk99, yeah, try that... and look for bug reports regarding the firmware. since it's proprietary software, you know how support looks... |
| 22:03.37 | Mephisto | bs0d, it TELLS so. |
| 22:03.43 | Mephisto | bs0d, you can install either one or another. |
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| 22:03.49 | Mephisto | bs0d, and it doesn't look worse than Debina |
| 22:03.51 | Mephisto | Debian* |
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| 22:04.05 | Mephisto | though i didn't like it much :) But it has all new software surprisingly |
| 22:04.12 | Mephisto | sorry for offtopic. |
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| 22:04.52 | sk99 | thewanderer1, yeah well i hope they do, after all one of their selling points is supposedly great customer service... but thanks for the hints! |
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| 22:12.10 | Mephisto | how to turn off DVD VOBs thumbnail preview? |
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| 22:16.50 | jhutchins_lt | bs0d: If you want to run Windows games pay for Windows. |
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| 22:17.21 | bentkus | play text based adventures |
| 22:17.25 | bentkus | linux supports them quite well |
| 22:17.39 | thewanderer1 | telnet ftw |
| 22:18.02 | jhutchins_lt | !amd64 |
| 22:18.02 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ #debian-amd64 on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>. |
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| 22:18.55 | xindz | How can i turn on flow-control for a realtek nic ? |
| 22:19.05 | thewanderer1 | dumb help message, most software is deployed and tested on amd64 these days (hence the numerous i386 bugs), and we also need wider amd64 adoption |
| 22:19.14 | thewanderer1 | xindz, what? |
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| 22:20.32 | xindz | thewanderer Im trying to turn on flow-control ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_control ), But i can't find the setting.. |
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| 22:21.12 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: I still advise i386 for workstation usage. |
| 22:21.41 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home, aren't workstations supposed to be powerful workhorses capable of addressing 256TB of memory? :P |
| 22:22.03 | thewanderer1 | xindz, on an Ethernet network interface? |
| 22:22.17 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: irrelevant |
| 22:22.18 | xindz | Yes |
| 22:22.35 | thewanderer1 | xindz, and what tells you that it's disabled? |
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| 22:23.48 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: Lots of people still running 32b for a lot of good reasons. |
| 22:23.57 | xindz | thewanderar1 im experiencing packetloss and bad speeds |
| 22:24.25 | thewanderer1 | xindz, if you're seeing packet loss, would flow control help? |
| 22:24.39 | thewanderer1 | usually, it's done at higher layers |
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| 22:25.50 | xindz | thewanderar1 no idea, im trying to get it right :) |
| 22:25.52 | thewanderer1 | also, I think it's enabled by default |
| 22:27.05 | thewanderer1 | if it's not, and there is no option to do it, it means the hardware doesn't support it |
| 22:27.15 | thewanderer1 | (which is not really surprising with Realtek hardware) |
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| 22:28.48 | thewanderer1 | xindz, in any case, `ethtool -a ethN`, where ethN is the dev name, will show you PAUSE (as defined in 802.3x) settings |
| 22:29.00 | xindz | Thx |
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| 22:36.52 | NapHtaKeRoSene | techsupport sticker notice http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/807/1263313424701.png/ |
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| 22:39.34 | jhutchins_lt | That's stolen from xkcd. |
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| 22:41.22 | jhutchins_lt | http://xkcd.com/627/ |
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| 22:42.24 | jhutchins_lt | This one's fun too: http://xkcd.com/806/ |
| 22:42.28 | NapHtaKeRoSene | jhulst<< hah i see |
| 22:42.43 | NapHtaKeRoSene | how do you know where it's from btw ? |
| 22:42.58 | jhutchins_lt | xkcd fan. |
| 22:43.00 | thewanderer1 | we all have them embossed in mind :P |
| 22:43.11 | NapHtaKeRoSene | hehe |
| 22:43.28 | NapHtaKeRoSene | i haven't even heard of xkcd |
| 22:43.43 | jhutchins_lt | It's kinda like how we know the BOFH jokes. |
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| 22:47.29 | jhutchins_lt | figures that takes care of NapHtaKeRoSene's productivity for the rest of today. |
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| 22:48.00 | NapHtaKeRoSene | jhutchins<< no, i'm not exploring it, maybe when i'll have freetime |
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| 22:51.31 | NapHtaKeRoSene | 23:46pm up 30 days 12:22, 2 users, load average: 0.76, 0.47, 0.45 |
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| 22:53.33 | hjsww | from command line how to access existing RAID? It is mirror consisting of /dev/sda5 and sdb5 |
| 22:53.42 | hjsww | mdadm .... ? |
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| 22:57.43 | Mephisto | why does firestarter refuse to run on boot? |
| 22:57.49 | Mephisto | i see that in messages |
| 22:57.57 | Mephisto | like... running firestarter... failed! |
| 22:58.10 | Mephisto | but it actually works when i'm in the system. |
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| 23:01.06 | jhutchins | Uptime: 72 days, 4 hours and 38 minutes |
| 23:01.46 | jhutchins | Mephisto: Perhaps it is not waiting for the network to be up? |
| 23:02.01 | Mephisto | jhutchins, hm... perhaps. |
| 23:02.12 | Mephisto | jhutchins, but how can the network come before it? |
| 23:03.07 | jhutchins | !tell Mephisto about init |
| 23:03.12 | Mephisto | tell me again please how to do logs of bootup sequence.. how to generate them actually. |
| 23:03.16 | Mephisto | let's see.. |
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| 23:03.25 | jhutchins | !tell Mephisto about runlevels |
| 23:03.43 | jhutchins | !tell Mephisto about readme.debian |
| 23:04.01 | Mephisto | thanks |
| 23:06.03 | karlpinc | !tell Mephisto about bootlogd |
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| 23:06.46 | toutou777 | hello |
| 23:06.47 | Mephisto | thanks, done,. |
| 23:06.53 | Mephisto | in a minute will paste the stuff. |
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| 23:07.14 | toutou777 | existe madwifi-tools for sid or how i can have wlanconfig command ? |
| 23:07.22 | xrdodrx | I accidentally messed up my libpng library, and now when I try to reinstall it via "sudo apt-get install --purge --reinstall libpng12-0 libpng12-dev", I get "E: Internal Error, No file name for libpng12-0". How can I fix this? |
| 23:07.45 | xrdodrx | Debian Squeeze, by the way. |
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| 23:11.18 | Mephisto | hm.... it's empty |
| 23:11.38 | Mephisto | /var/log/boot right? |
| 23:11.43 | karlpinc | xrdodrx: You might tell us how you messed it up. |
| 23:11.50 | Mephisto | there's nothing inside, although i've enabled the feature. |
| 23:11.56 | xrdodrx | karlpinc, Certainly. I attempted to patch it. |
| 23:12.28 | karlpinc | xrdodrx: You recompiled a new one? |
| 23:12.33 | xrdodrx | Yes. |
| 23:12.52 | xrdodrx | Then the install script moved it there, I'm pretty sure. Regardless, it broke libpng. |
| 23:13.15 | karlpinc | xrdodrx: Dunno. But I would do an uinstall then do an install in seprate commands. (I tend to use aptitude myself. YMMV.) |
| 23:13.16 | xrdodrx | Now when I attempt to reinstall it through apt I get that error. |
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| 23:15.03 | Mephisto | so why the boot file is empty? |
| 23:15.10 | karlpinc | xrdodrx: Gotta go. Have you done an "apt-get update" lately? You might also try clearing the apt cache. (I know "aptitude clean" does this.) |
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| 23:16.24 | ParkerR | Hey |
| 23:18.03 | tuv | are ext3 and ext4 equally suitable for SSDs? or is either better than the other? |
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| 23:18.31 | scoobertron | Is there any way to gauge the progress of fsck.ext3 while it is running? So far it has been about a week on a 2TB drive. It is used for incremental backups and is full of hard links, which I gather is why it is taking so long. I can access the terminal output (it is running in tmux), but it would be useful if I could somehow work out how much longer it may be running. |
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| 23:19.08 | DJango_Novice | hi there |
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| 23:19.29 | DJango_Novice | im new to ubuntu and trying to install libapache2-svn but its giving me error |
| 23:19.31 | DJango_Novice | http://dpaste.org/vheJV/ |
| 23:19.34 | DJango_Novice | any idea |
| 23:19.41 | dondelelcaro | DJango_Novice: this is #debian, not #ubuntu; best to ask in #ubuntu. |
| 23:19.53 | somiaj | DJango_Novice: /join #ubuntu first. Ask again there |
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| 23:20.00 | DJango_Novice | no one seems to be interested there on ubuntu :) |
| 23:20.06 | DJango_Novice | i tried there but no luck |
| 23:20.53 | frostschutz | scoobertron: you could attach to it with gdb and look at its data structures, but without a detailed understanding of how fsck.ext3 does its work, that wont tell you anything and you risk breaking it ... |
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| 23:21.38 | phlogisto | DJango_Novice, just install debian, it will work ;) |
| 23:22.00 | joshsmith | haha phlogisto++ |
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| 23:22.30 | frostschutz | scoobertron: so unless fsck.ext3 has a hidden debug output trigger like dd's usr1 progress thing, probably not possible |
| 23:22.56 | Mephisto | so why no logs in boot? |
| 23:23.05 | Mephisto | damn.. |
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| 23:23.14 | g00se | Is there a way, when booting from ramdisk, to say to the kernel 'don't detect and read hard disks?' |
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| 23:26.46 | file-exists-p | is there a problem with www.debian-multimedia.org ? |
| 23:26.58 | file-exists-p | weird |
| 23:27.07 | file-exists-p | I can not ping it from one host, I can from another |
| 23:27.51 | streuner_ | well, its a problem with DNS here |
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| 23:28.23 | streuner_ | Fehl http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid Release.gpg |
| 23:28.23 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.34 | midgaze | Hi, dump/restore works on ext4 now, shouldn't the manpage make that clear? |
| 23:28.37 | streuner_ | which means its an DNS issue |
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| 23:29.32 | midgaze | That's assuming that it's not silently broken, as it was a couple years ago |
| 23:29.59 | midgaze | dump would make unusable backups without warning with 0.4b41 |
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| 23:30.19 | Mephisto | still no logs. |
| 23:30.28 | Mephisto | jhutchins |
| 23:31.41 | streuner_ | file-exists-p: DNS issue, just wait, iam sure, the hoster of DMM should solve this issue shortly |
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| 23:34.26 | streuner_ | file-exists-p: s/solve/fix/ |
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| 23:38.26 | hanasaki | what is a free viop client that will let me make and receive calls to other users and also landlines and cell? |
| 23:38.38 | midgaze | What is the preferred way to back up a debian system running ext4, so that you can lay down your backups onto bare metal, install a bootloader, boot and go home? |
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| 23:40.39 | thewanderer1 | midgaze, how about a complete disk image? |
| 23:40.41 | g00se | midgaze: Take a look at partimage, though i haven't used it myself |
| 23:40.52 | maher | is it possible to get icedove to use maildir instead of mbox (or whatever it currently uses) |
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| 23:41.28 | g00se | maher: i'd guess no, but not certain |
| 23:41.31 | midgaze | thewanderer1: requires replacement disk with same geometry, also very space/time ineficient |
| 23:41.49 | thewanderer1 | midgaze, is fine if you use compression :P |
| 23:42.20 | midgaze | thewanderer1: after a disk is used for a while old deleted files exist in areas unused by the filesystem |
| 23:42.40 | midgaze | thewanderer1: you can't expect unused space to be zeroes or whatever |
| 23:42.52 | thewanderer1 | midgaze, true (unless one uses discard option) |
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| 23:43.25 | midgaze | whichh would be highly unusual |
| 23:43.34 | wolfric | can someone remind me how to setup apt-get config again? There was some options that you could put in a config file that would automatically setup a config with them instead of prompting you. it was as simple as something like "hostname=bla" in a file |
| 23:43.48 | thewanderer1 | I've tried clonezilla for installing machines, but it's quite intrusive |
| 23:44.03 | midgaze | thewanderer1: wait, discard is for SSDs, no? |
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| 23:44.19 | thewanderer1 | midgaze, discard is for whatever supports ATA TRIM |
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| 23:44.42 | midgaze | thewanderer1: which would be SSDs exclusively, right? |
| 23:44.52 | thewanderer1 | nowadays... maybe :P |
| 23:45.15 | thewanderer1 | wolfric, debconf preseeding? |
| 23:45.30 | midgaze | Will look at partimage |
| 23:45.34 | jelly-home | hopefully virtual machine block devices support TRIM these days as well |
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| 23:45.42 | midgaze | It's surprising how often such fundamental things don't have a clear answer |
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| 23:48.04 | midgaze | partimage does not support ext4 |
| 23:48.07 | jelly-home | maher: stupid workaround: a local imap server |
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| 23:51.16 | maher | jelly-home: well, everything is already imap on the mail server, i'm just interested in reducing the churn for backups... |
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| 23:59.44 | wrwrwrw | how to open my RAID partition from livecd? |
