| 00:00.22 | DarkUranium | jhutchins, Justin: okay, the session... sort of works, but there is a half-hour delay between me typing something and that appearing in the shell O_o |
| 00:00.28 | DarkUranium | literally half-hour |
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| 00:01.37 | SupYoshi | does anyone know the teamspeak package? |
| 00:01.41 | SupYoshi | for debian 6? |
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| 00:03.42 | Touma | it's a bin package |
| 00:04.13 | Touma | not a package, just download thye bin and apply the execute permissions |
| 00:04.48 | SupYoshi | ;) yea ok, but will it update? |
| 00:04.58 | SupYoshi | with sudo apt-get upgrade :P |
| 00:05.02 | SupYoshi | I would like it xD |
| 00:05.34 | Touma | imm |
| 00:05.46 | Touma | you need download the package from teamspeak |
| 00:05.51 | Touma | website |
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| 00:13.07 | haole | hello there... anyone here familiar with the torque/maui jobs scheduler? i can see debian packages for torque in debian squeeze, but not for maui... am i missing something? |
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| 00:19.13 | Younos | hi, i run nmap and it says port 111/rpcbind is open, how do i close it/stop the service that's listening to it? |
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| 00:25.58 | Younos | ok solved it by: service portmap stop |
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| 00:27.02 | z28 | Younos: that looks like portmap, if you don't use NFS you can disable portmap with rcconf. |
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| 00:30.28 | Mephisto | alright... i fiddled around with nvidia a bit more and have finally come to conclusion: i can't use either ATI or nvidia for this LCD i'm using. |
| 00:31.01 | Mephisto | that's kinda... destructive fact. |
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| 00:34.39 | takahiro | hello, how hard would it be to get my mobile broadband card to work with no manufacturer supplied linux drivers? pretty much impossible? |
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| 00:36.54 | Mephisto | takahiro, probably... you can try using WIne though... if drivers are binary.. |
| 00:37.02 | Mephisto | takahiro, find windows driver... and that's it.. |
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| 00:41.08 | Younos | z28: ty, i fixed it with a chmod a-x /etc/init.d/portmap |
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| 00:41.52 | z28 | Younos: that's not a good method, use update-rc.d or rcconf. |
| 00:42.59 | z28 | Younos: your method may just fill up your error logs, not sure |
| 00:43.12 | Younos | oh, ok |
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| 00:45.05 | Younos | oh for removing the /etc/rc?.d symlinks i guess? i dont have rcconf, but do have update-rc.d |
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| 00:46.03 | z28 | Younos: yu can aptitude install rcconf easily enough,, but update-rc.d is probably the choice of champions :) |
| 00:46.17 | jae | dpkg: Translate-en |
| 00:46.18 | dpkg | jae: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 00:46.35 | jae | Yeah, I wish you or someone would point me at TFM |
| 00:47.16 | takahiro | i have the modem listed here, how can I install this driver? http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/BCM_WIMAX.html |
| 00:47.51 | jae | My connection sucks. I'm really glad pdiffs exist. But: what's this 3M Translate-en apt wants to fetch, and why's it not pdiff'd? Any pointers? |
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| 00:48.58 | themill | jae: that's the package descriptions |
| 00:49.07 | takahiro | how hard would it be to get a 2.6.39 kernel working with debian 6.0.3? |
| 00:49.17 | themill | dpkg: tell takahiro about backports |
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| 00:49.42 | themill | takahiro: backports.debian.org has a 3.2 kernel that may do what you want |
| 00:49.51 | takahiro | cool |
| 00:50.27 | Younos | z28: rcconf is easy enough it shows a nice menu, too |
| 00:50.39 | Younos | i like nice menus |
| 00:50.44 | z28 | Younos: cheers |
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| 00:54.10 | takahiro | is this the newest backport image i can get? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/linux-image-2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64 |
| 00:55.29 | takahiro | nevermind |
| 00:55.50 | takahiro | i found a 3.2.0 image in another search |
| 00:55.51 | jae | themill: Oh, I see. Missed that change, apparently. Which just makes me wonder again why they are not handled by the pdiff scheme. |
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| 01:00.38 | jae | Oh, and: any pointers what was changed here and when? And where? I skimmed apt's changelog, and come up empty. (Yup, unstable... now waiting to be berated) |
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| 01:04.50 | Intell`godbox | Anyone able to help? when attempting to use commands i am getin following msg "-sh: useradd: not found" |
| 01:05.04 | Intell`godbox | any ideas why it is doing this |
| 01:05.15 | Intell`godbox | "-sh: adduser: not found" aswell |
| 01:06.42 | nkuttler | Intell`godbox: add /usr/sbin/ to your path |
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| 01:07.32 | Intell`godbox | what do you mean nkuttler? |
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| 01:08.31 | nkuttler | !path |
| 01:08.31 | dpkg | PATH is the environment variable that tells the OS where to look for programs. It is defined in /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile (for sh-like shells) or ~/.login for csh-like shells. http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_07_02.html |
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| 01:09.35 | DarkUranium | oooookay, I've finally beaten Webmin into submission |
| 01:09.47 | DarkUranium | so which WHCP should I use now - ISPConfig, ispCP, something else...? |
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| 01:16.32 | satdav | hi guys |
| 01:16.44 | satdav | is their a bugzilla package in apt-get |
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| 01:18.36 | satdav | ,,bugzilla |
| 01:20.12 | somiaj | !tell satdav about search |
| 01:20.39 | somiaj | DarkUranium: but submission you mean gave it a terrible death and don't let it touch your machine anymore? (: |
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| 01:20.56 | satdav | !apt-get |
| 01:20.56 | dpkg | apt-get is a program (part of the apt package) used as a simple command line tool to libapt. apt-get is the original frontend for <apt>, but <aptitude> is now the recommended tool for managing packages. See also <why aptitude>, <reference>, <synaptic>, <apt-cache>, <gdebi>. http://wiki.debian.org/apt-get http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9 |
| 01:21.16 | Intell`godbox | im seriously stumped nkuttler, im kinda new to debian |
| 01:21.23 | Intell`godbox | i was loged in as non-root user |
| 01:21.25 | somiaj | satdav: /msg dpkg <factoid> -- you do not need to spam the channel with them |
| 01:21.33 | Intell`godbox | i used sudo and did not know the password, not its just stuck me on $ |
| 01:21.35 | Intell`godbox | and no commands work |
| 01:21.36 | DarkUranium | somiaj: yup. |
| 01:21.41 | satdav | I see it does not have bugzilla on it |
| 01:21.44 | DarkUranium | somiaj: with a pointed stick! |
| 01:21.49 | Intell`godbox | i want to go back to $USERNAME so i can use normal commands agian |
| 01:21.55 | somiaj | satdav: read the factoid I sent you, it will tell you how to search for packages |
| 01:21.55 | Intell`godbox | loging out does not fix thnis |
| 01:22.22 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: what do you mean? if you type 'exit' it should return you to the privious shell |
| 01:22.32 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: you can use 'whoami' to see which user you are in that paticular shell |
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| 01:22.37 | bros | How can I read my entire / partition into RAM upon boot? (so that I can unplug the USB stick and still have a functioning (and fast!) system)? |
| 01:22.54 | satdav | getting errors when i am trying to search |
| 01:23.23 | Intell`godbox | all commands i type i get "-sh: help: not found" |
| 01:23.26 | Intell`godbox | for example |
| 01:23.51 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: sounds like you have a bad PATH, write the full path, /usr/bin/whoami |
| 01:23.54 | Intell`godbox | its just $ instead of example :gamecreate@headshot:/$: |
| 01:24.32 | Intell`godbox | $ /usr/bin/whoami |
| 01:24.33 | Intell`godbox | godbox |
| 01:25.34 | somiaj | that is the name of your user right? that isn't root |
| 01:25.46 | somiaj | so your promt is just not standard, maybe you mangled your .bashrc |
| 01:26.12 | Intell`godbox | yes somiaj |
| 01:27.00 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: seems like you mangeled your .bashrc (or the system one) and your prompt/path isn't setting up to be default |
| 01:27.07 | somiaj | did you modify your .bashrc file at all or a system one? |
| 01:27.11 | Intell`godbox | nope |
| 01:27.16 | Intell`godbox | this only just happend when i attempted to run sudo |
| 01:27.21 | Intell`godbox | and ddnt know the password |
| 01:27.43 | Intell`godbox | threw me into this and iv got no idea how to go back to normal |
| 01:27.58 | somiaj | type 'source /home/username/.bashrc' where username is godbox or whaever you call your sellf |
| 01:28.26 | Intell`godbox | sh: source: not found |
| 01:28.50 | Intell`godbox | o.O |
| 01:29.03 | somiaj | well you ddi something more than just fail to authenticate with sudo, if you didn't enter in the right password |
| 01:29.04 | satdav | http://wiki.debian.org/Bugzilla |
| 01:29.13 | satdav | what httpd server have i to install |
| 01:29.16 | somiaj | hmm source is a shell builtin |
| 01:29.33 | Intell`godbox | something as simple as "help" dosnt even work |
| 01:29.35 | somiaj | it shouldn't be a path issue, ok Intell`godbox, 'echo $SHELL' |
| 01:29.37 | Intell`godbox | this is why im so confused |
| 01:29.50 | Intell`godbox | "/bin/sh" |
| 01:29.55 | z28 | satdav: apache |
| 01:30.02 | satdav | cool |
| 01:30.38 | somiaj | seems like you are using dash, try '/bin/bash -l' |
| 01:30.52 | Intell`godbox | thank you somiaj! |
| 01:30.54 | Intell`godbox | that worked |
| 01:30.59 | Intell`godbox | what happend? |
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| 01:31.08 | somiaj | now look at your user in /etc/passwd and see why bash isn't set as the default shell |
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| 01:31.26 | Intell`godbox | binbash_: /etc/passwd: Permission denied |
| 01:31.28 | somiaj | it should have '/bin/bash' as the very end of the line |
| 01:31.37 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: grep godbox /etc/passwd |
| 01:31.46 | satdav | http://paste.debian.net/153769/ |
| 01:31.49 | satdav | what one |
| 01:31.54 | satdav | as their is a couple |
| 01:31.57 | Intell`godbox | godbox:x:1005:1005::/home/godbox:/bin/sh |
| 01:32.19 | somiaj | change /bin/sh to /bin/bash |
| 01:32.27 | Intell`godbox | using that command? |
| 01:32.50 | z28 | satdav: apache2 |
| 01:32.55 | satdav | cool |
| 01:33.00 | satdav | I am new to this |
| 01:33.23 | z28 | satdav: best of luck, but it's not too difficult. |
| 01:33.33 | satdav | do i install all of they apache 2 modules |
| 01:34.17 | z28 | satdav: I haven't installed apache for years, you'll want php installed for sure |
| 01:34.34 | satdav | does apache now include that |
| 01:34.57 | Intell`godbox | somiaj: DSHELL=/bin/bash - i think i just access SH some how |
| 01:35.09 | Intell`godbox | mis typed some bullshit no idea |
| 01:35.14 | Intell`godbox | thank you for the help tho |
| 01:35.18 | Intell`godbox | that has never happend lol |
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| 01:35.45 | satdav | would be good if apt-get install apache2 |
| 01:35.51 | satdav | installed the latest build |
| 01:36.03 | z28 | satdav: probably, ask aptitude or consult wiki.debian.org or apache.org, the latter not specifically aimed at debian. |
| 01:36.14 | satdav | cool |
| 01:36.48 | z28 | satdav: by all means use aptitude in this case as it will recommend packages you will want/need. |
| 01:37.04 | satdav | cool |
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| 01:38.26 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: on debian boxes /bin/sh is linked against dash for good reason, it is to ensure that system programs (scripts with installing/removing/managing packages) all have a compliant shell, so you if you want to use bash you have to use /bin/bash and do not assume /bin/sh links to it |
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| 01:39.12 | Intell`godbox | i checked passwd file |
| 01:39.18 | Intell`godbox | and my default is set to sh |
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| 01:39.29 | Intell`godbox | i cant edit it tho because i dont have the sudo password |
| 01:39.54 | somiaj | you can also use apt-cache show pkgname or aptitude show pkgname to read the description of said packaeg if you want more info satdav |
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| 01:40.19 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: sudo uses the user's password that ran sudo, it is not a special password. Though you need to set up sudo primisions for that user, and on a debian system this is just add him to the sudo group |
| 01:40.44 | somiaj | though you can modify /etc/sudoers with visudo if you so desire to have more control than just global ability by adding you to a system group |
| 01:40.46 | satdav | cool |
| 01:41.04 | Intell`godbox | so sudo does not use the root password |
| 01:41.08 | Intell`godbox | it uses the same password |
| 01:41.28 | z28 | Intell`godbox: sudo uses the users pass |
| 01:41.34 | Intell`godbox | -_- |
| 01:41.36 | somiaj | correct, that is the point of sudo, to allow users to have root privlages with their password/authentication |
| 01:41.39 | Intell`godbox | so i can edit passwd with sudo |
| 01:41.54 | Intell`godbox | i thought sudo was diffrent password |
| 01:41.57 | Intell`godbox | golly |
| 01:42.03 | z28 | Intell`godbox: yes you can if you have sudo privelege. |
| 01:42.06 | somiaj | you can even turn off asking for passwords with sudo, main reason it asks for a password is so if you leave a shell loged in and someone gets control of it they still have to know your password for root privalges |
| 01:42.10 | Intell`godbox | yeh i do |
| 01:42.14 | Intell`godbox | :) |
| 01:42.20 | Intell`godbox | i just needed to clear that up |
| 01:42.22 | Intell`godbox | now makes sense |
| 01:42.38 | Intell`godbox | sudo nano /etc/passwd |
| 01:43.12 | Intell`godbox | go |
| 01:43.15 | z28 | Intell`godbox: correct nano -B if you want a backup made |
| 01:43.15 | Intell`godbox | you guys are life savers |
| 01:43.16 | Intell`godbox | <3 |
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| 01:43.21 | sevard | If you DESTDIR="$HOME" make install and your ~/usr/bin/blob executable is looking for /usr/lib/some_lib_it_installed.so.6 isntead of ~/usr/lib/some_lib_it_installed.so.6 is there something akin to $PATH I can append for libs? |
| 01:43.23 | Bartzy | I'm backporting php5 from sid to squeeze. Almost every test out of the 10,000+ tests in the build is FAILing... Is that normal ? |
| 01:43.30 | Intell`godbox | changed my default to bash instead of sh now |
| 01:43.31 | Intell`godbox | : |
| 01:43.31 | Intell`godbox | ) |
| 01:43.36 | Intell`godbox | thank you |
| 01:43.43 | somiaj | sevard: ldconfig |
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| 01:44.05 | somiaj | sevard: check /etc/ld.so.conf and /etc/ld.so.conf.d |
| 01:44.26 | sevard | somiaj: those files are only writeable by root |
| 01:44.39 | sevard | somiaj: i'm installing things into my home directory because I"m not root :) |
| 01:44.59 | satdav | I am getting E: Couldn't find any package by regex '15-6+squeeze4' |
| 01:45.10 | satdav | does that mena that it is all ready installed |
| 01:45.54 | somiaj | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201091 |
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| 01:46.18 | sevard | ooOOooo |
| 01:46.20 | somiaj | seems you users can add directories with the LD_LIBARY_PATH variable |
| 01:47.17 | somiaj | also since you aren't rood, you may want dpkg -x, to just extract the binaries/libs more than 'install' them and run all the scripts with it |
| 01:48.05 | wolfric | how do i automatically specify options for apt-get? I thought it was through debconf-get-selections but the apt-get -c config_file doesn't seem to want to accept this file |
| 01:48.23 | SupYoshi | how do i chmod x again? |
| 01:48.27 | SupYoshi | i wanna make a bash script runable |
| 01:48.28 | sevard | somiaj: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:"$HOME"/usr/local/lib |
| 01:48.29 | sevard | woot |
| 01:48.35 | SupYoshi | chmod x filename.sh ? |
| 01:48.42 | SupYoshi | or was it chmod-x filename.sh |
| 01:48.46 | sevard | SupYoshi: chmod +x |
| 01:48.52 | somiaj | SupYoshi: +x (to add) -x (to subtracT) the excutable bit |
| 01:49.04 | somiaj | you could also do things like u+x (to only add the excutable bit for the user) |
| 01:49.18 | sevard | or learn modes :) |
| 01:49.31 | z28 | SupYoshi: learning octal format is cooler ;) e.g. chmod 755 file.sh |
| 01:49.39 | bendbanks | Hi all I removed postfix cause I was getting a /etc/postfix/master! failed error |
| 01:49.41 | somiaj | and if you just want to run the script (say its a bash script) source filename.sh works, or /bin/bash filename.sh |
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| 01:49.56 | bendbanks | when I go to re install it want install at all |
| 01:50.02 | bendbanks | anyone got any ideas |
| 01:50.12 | SupYoshi | im having this error, ts3server.pid: Permission denied |
| 01:50.45 | somiaj | bendbanks: nope we aren't going to guess what you have done, why won't it install. Did it get any other errors or isntall another MTA when your removed postfix |
| 01:50.50 | satdav | does apache pre install on the webserver |
| 01:50.54 | SupYoshi | while the directory is my home order :) |
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| 01:50.58 | SupYoshi | *directory |
| 01:51.13 | enderless | ss |
| 01:51.20 | somiaj | SupYoshi: ts3server.pid will just be a text file, when running the server it needs to be able to read/write to that file to put the current pid of the process in it |
| 01:51.28 | somiaj | SupYoshi: so check those primissions |
| 01:51.34 | somiaj | satdav: what do you mean? |
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| 01:51.49 | satdav | it looks like apache is all ready running 213.229.73.233 |
| 01:51.52 | satdav | on my vps |
| 01:52.07 | bendbanks | somiaj: it states the install process then comes up with the following |
| 01:52.09 | bendbanks | Running newaliases |
| 01:52.09 | bendbanks | Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent: postfix. |
| 01:52.10 | bendbanks | Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent: postfixpostfix/postfix-script: fatal: no Postfix master program /etc/postfix/master! |
| 01:52.10 | bendbanks | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.10 | bendbanks | invoke-rc.d: initscript postfix, action "restart" failed. |
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| 01:52.13 | satdav | is thier a command to see if it is |
| 01:52.16 | somiaj | yea how we would know what your VPS preinstalled on your server satdav (: |
| 01:52.28 | somiaj | dpkg -l lists all installed packages (provided it was installed via apt/dpkg) |
| 01:52.28 | dpkg | No packages found matching lists all installed packages (provided it was installed via apt/dpkg) |
| 01:52.39 | somiaj | silly bot |
| 01:52.41 | somiaj | dpkg: botsnack |
| 01:52.42 | dpkg | thanks, somiaj |
| 01:52.42 | satdav | how can I see what is installed |
| 01:53.17 | somiaj | satdav: I just told you how (provided it was installed with debian tools, if someone just compiled/copied binaries over no way of knowing with debian tools) |
| 01:53.43 | satdav | cool |
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| 01:55.07 | SupYoshi | somiaj: How do i check for permissions of a pid... =/ :( |
| 01:55.27 | SupYoshi | I could just chmod the whole teamspeak folder as 700 or smething... maybe that would work but im first asking here |
| 01:55.31 | somiaj | SupYoshi: same way as any other file, ls -l |
| 01:55.46 | somiaj | SupYoshi: but it could be primisions of the directory it wants to put the pid in and not the pid file iteslf |
| 01:56.45 | SupYoshi | somiaj: i see whats wrong ;) the wrong useraccount has the permissions |
| 01:57.01 | SupYoshi | somiaj: could you tell me how to hand over the permissions to another account? ;) |
| 01:57.09 | somiaj | chown user.group |
| 01:57.19 | somiaj | chown -R user.group if you want it to be recrusive |
| 01:57.44 | SupYoshi | an normal user is in the group users right? ;) |
| 01:57.53 | SupYoshi | so chown.username.users |
| 01:58.01 | SupYoshi | is that correct? |
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| 01:59.19 | SupYoshi | chown -R username somedir isnt this better for me? |
| 01:59.38 | somiaj | normal users are by default only put in their own user account by the same name |
| 01:59.40 | SupYoshi | cus the group is the same ;) (stayss the same) |
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| 01:59.52 | somiaj | so its chown -R foo.foo bar |
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| 02:07.50 | SupYoshi | got it thank you :) |
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| 02:15.22 | SupYoshi | does anyone have experience with teamspeak 3? |
| 02:15.36 | SupYoshi | Im trying to reach the web interface, But is this disabled by default? or something? |
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| 02:21.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.37 | NotJimCarrey | anyone know how to get nvidia drivers working in wheezy unstable 3.2? |
| 02:22.25 | abrotman | wheezy is not unstable |
| 02:22.31 | somiaj | NotJimCarrey: what is wheezy unstable 3.2? Are you mixing things. As for wheezy, if the nvidia drivers aren't still broken (check the bts) just install the nvidia dkms packages and the nvidia glx libs |
| 02:22.50 | somiaj | I guess 3.2 is the silly gnome version |
| 02:22.52 | NotJimCarrey | kernel 3.2 |
| 02:22.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got two nodes, squeeze, 32 and 64 and a 64bit server, trying to open the same directory owned by my user in AD. one system can open it but one dosn't see anyting no errors. this is a samba share btw. nss krb, smb.conf, pam.d/* is identical any ideas where to go from here? also my new 32 bit squeezer works just fine. now these broken boxes are upgrade from lenny |
| 02:22.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | ?? |
| 02:23.43 | abrotman | somiaj: is 3.2 also the silly kernel version? :) |
| 02:24.30 | somiaj | abrotman: haha, I think so, but I am still not use to the new version specifications. |
| 02:24.40 | NotJimCarrey | running debian wheezy unstable with kernel 3.2.0-1-amd64 |
| 02:24.44 | somiaj | the 3 doesn't bother me, but changing progression does |
| 02:25.00 | abrotman | NotJimCarrey: wheezy is NOT unstable |
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| 02:25.20 | somiaj | !tell NotJimCarrey about nvidia dkms |
| 02:25.26 | NotJimCarrey | it is if you run out of sid |
| 02:26.18 | sputnick | hi |
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| 02:27.18 | abrotman | NotJimCarrey: then it's not wheezy |
| 02:27.48 | NotJimCarrey | somiaj: those instructions are a little flawed if they're telling me to install linux-headers-2.6 when i'm running 3.2 |
| 02:28.12 | somiaj | then install the correct headers |
| 02:28.24 | somiaj | the kernel didn't change to much with the version number change |
| 02:28.26 | NotJimCarrey | cat /etc/debian_version|wheezy/sid |
| 02:28.50 | somiaj | (besdies for the various improvements, fixes and additions that have been slowly improving the 2.6 kernel for years) |
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| 02:30.57 | NotJimCarrey | dammit, can someone remind me how to get mouse in console? |
| 02:31.05 | somiaj | gpm |
| 02:31.08 | NotJimCarrey | thanks |
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| 02:31.20 | NotJimCarrey | been too long since i used only console |
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| 02:32.38 | NotJimCarrey | i really need to setup framebuffer too |
| 02:32.59 | NotJimCarrey | just have debian boot straigt to console like the good ole days |
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| 02:37.24 | somiaj | I woudln't set up framebuffers with the nvidia non-free driver |
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| 02:37.58 | somiaj | well I guess you can sometimes get crapy vesa fb to work, though hopefully nouveau gets to be more online with the free radeon driver in quality. |
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| 02:43.49 | NotJimCarrey | just can't stand 640*480 |
| 02:43.50 | NotJimCarrey | gah |
| 02:44.15 | NotJimCarrey | real quick (cause googling is a pain atm): |
| 02:44.22 | NotJimCarrey | Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-2.fw for module r8169 |
| 02:45.03 | abrotman | firmware?! AGGGHHH! |
| 02:45.08 | NotJimCarrey | lol |
| 02:45.23 | NotJimCarrey | can someone point me to a good howto? |
| 02:45.32 | abrotman | for what./ |
| 02:45.36 | somiaj | NotJimCarrey: you really sound like you shouldn't be running unstable if you don't understand the basics of how debian deals with things, like adding and installing non-free firmware blobs |
| 02:45.39 | NotJimCarrey | fixing that error |
| 02:45.42 | abrotman | you've asked i think four questions in 10 minutes |
| 02:45.52 | NotJimCarrey | somiaj: it's just been a long time |
| 02:45.52 | abrotman | judd: file firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-2.fw --release squeeze |
| 02:45.59 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 02:46.03 | abrotman | judd: file firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-2.fw --release wheezy |
| 02:46.09 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 02:46.24 | abrotman | oh to hell wiht that .. just buy intel |
| 02:46.29 | NotJimCarrey | been stuck in winland for too long |
| 02:46.32 | somiaj | there is a firmware-realtek package for most realtek firmware, some of it you have to actually get from realtek themseves, check the wiki |
| 02:46.35 | NotJimCarrey | it's a laptop |
| 02:47.31 | abrotman | OMG .. you have a luggable?! |
| 02:47.39 | abrotman | CPQ or IBM? |
| 02:48.02 | NotJimCarrey | asus |
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| 02:48.24 | abrotman | comes back from the 80s |
| 02:48.27 | NotJimCarrey | lol |
| 02:48.41 | NotJimCarrey | though i think i still have an old ibm lappy somewhere around here |
| 02:49.05 | NotJimCarrey | think it's running dsl if i'm not mistaken |
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| 02:49.48 | abrotman | yeah .. i have a 486 that runs an ISP too |
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| 02:50.04 | abrotman | ISDN for all! |
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| 02:55.31 | Intell`godbox | iv edited iptables to open ports, iv saved the file but i want to restart it so it takes effect what is the command for this? |
| 02:55.38 | Intell`godbox | i cant seem to find it on wiki |
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| 02:59.44 | abrotman | open ports? |
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| 02:59.55 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 02:59.55 | dpkg | [iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables . http://netfilter.org/ #netfilter on irc.freenode.net. See also <ferm>, <lartc>, <masq>, <ulogd>. |
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| 03:01.32 | Intell`godbox | abrotman iv setup the tables and opned the port |
| 03:01.40 | Intell`godbox | but im assuming i need to restart iptables |
| 03:01.44 | Intell`godbox | for the ports to take effect |
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| 03:01.53 | Intell`godbox | as i still cant access the server through the ports i opened |
| 03:02.27 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: by default ip forwarding is trurned off, let me find that |
| 03:02.45 | abrotman | he didn't say anything about forwarding |
| 03:03.14 | abrotman | Intell`godbox: what are you really trying to do? |
| 03:03.28 | Intell`godbox | i added 8880 to iptables, it attempting to access the server via http://SERVERIP:8880 |
| 03:03.32 | Intell`godbox | with no luck |
| 03:03.40 | Intell`godbox | so im assuming the iptables need to resstart for the server to open them |
| 03:03.47 | abrotman | added how ? |
| 03:04.14 | Intell`godbox | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8880 -j ACCEPT |
| 03:04.32 | somiaj | is your webserver configured to listen on that port? (since it is unstandard)? |
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| 03:05.01 | abrotman | it's gonna be webmin .. then you'll run away! |
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| 03:05.57 | somiaj | what is with webmin today, haven't seen that horid program in years and was hoping it died a horrible death back in 2000, but its been talked about before today. |
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| 03:08.35 | b0xxy | sorry |
| 03:08.37 | b0xxy | my internet died |
| 03:08.50 | Intell`godbox | what was the last msg you seen? |
| 03:08.57 | somiaj | is your webserver configured to listen on that port? (since it is unstandard)? |
| 03:09.09 | Intell`godbox | i done this |
| 03:09.10 | Intell`godbox | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8880 -j ACCEPT |
| 03:09.15 | Intell`godbox | i will paste the iptables -L results now |
| 03:09.27 | abrotman | Intell`godbox: paste.debian.net please |
| 03:09.38 | Intell`godbox | http://pastebin.com/sQX3Nht4 |
| 03:09.40 | Intell`godbox | i know |
| 03:09.42 | Intell`godbox | im not dumb :P |
| 03:09.46 | Intell`godbox | not ganna spam irc haha |
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| 03:10.04 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: so what is the anwser to my question, is your webserver listening on that port? |
| 03:10.17 | abrotman | what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 03:10.23 | Intell`godbox | i am not sure somiaj |
| 03:10.43 | Intell`godbox | me abrotman? - 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 03:10.48 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: also why do you think you have to open ports, by default debian dosen't have a firewall and closes ports. |
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| 03:11.00 | abrotman | Intell`godbox: netstat -plunt | grep 8880 |
| 03:11.07 | Intell`godbox | i installed a program that requires access to 8880 |
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| 03:11.18 | abrotman | somiaj: not "closes" .. ust has nohting listening |
| 03:11.47 | somiaj | abrotman: correct, but it seems like his iptables -L shows he is just opening up ports because he thinks they were closed for somereason. Which doesn't seem to be the issue. |
| 03:12.06 | Intell`godbox | so it should be opened unless told to be closed? |
| 03:12.31 | abrotman | Intell`godbox: i'ts not really like that .. |
| 03:13.10 | Intell`godbox | all i want to do is be able to access my the webpanel through my browser |
| 03:13.14 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: unless you installed a firewall or setup an iptables rule to DROP packets, by default you do not have to open ports on a debian system. You do have to configure/run the service you want listening on the port though. |
| 03:13.24 | abrotman | Intell`godbox: in linux .. things don't listen until you tell them to .. so having a firewall isn't as important .. things dont' listen til they're active .. in windows .. services are just there and listening |
| 03:13.41 | Intell`godbox | View http://public_server_ip:8880 using your PC's browser. - it do this inreplace with my IP |
| 03:13.48 | Intell`godbox | Unable to connect |
| 03:14.06 | abrotman | Intell`godbox: netstat -plunt | grep 8880 ? |
| 03:14.22 | Intell`godbox | godbox@headshot:/$ sudo netstat -plunt | grep 8880 |
| 03:14.22 | abrotman | should return one or two lines |
| 03:14.23 | Intell`godbox | godbox@headshot:/$ |
| 03:14.42 | abrotman | guess what's listening ? |
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| 03:15.04 | Intell`godbox | no idea |
| 03:15.26 | abrotman | nothing |
| 03:15.45 | Intell`godbox | so i need the server to be listening for 8880 |
| 03:15.52 | abrotman | you don't need sudo for tha tcommand |
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| 03:16.02 | abrotman | Intell`godbox: yea .. that's what somiaj has been sayin |
| 03:16.15 | abrotman | can't type, blames beer |
| 03:16.24 | Intell`godbox | with out sudo i get "(No info could be read for "-p": geteuid()=1005 but you should be root.)" |
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| 03:18.01 | Intell`godbox | ok so i need to set the server to listen for port 8880 |
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| 03:18.25 | abrotman | didn't somiaj ask you that ? |
| 03:18.57 | Intell`godbox | not that i can see |
| 03:19.11 | abrotman | Intell`godbox: also .. 'fuser -n tcp 8880' |
| 03:19.44 | Intell`godbox | no feedback from that cmd |
| 03:19.57 | abrotman | right .. nothing is listening on 88888880000000 |
| 03:20.04 | Intell`godbox | ok |
| 03:20.05 | Intell`godbox | :) |
| 03:20.11 | Intell`godbox | now we need to set it to listen for it |
| 03:20.23 | Intell`godbox | slowly getin there and i thank you for your help so far :) |
| 03:20.28 | abrotman | blames somiaj |
| 03:20.39 | somiaj | takes the blame |
| 03:20.45 | Intell`godbox | lol |
| 03:20.53 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: what service is this and how did you install it? |
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| 03:21.26 | Intell`godbox | dpkg -i tcadmin-2-bi.x86_64.deb |
| 03:21.26 | dpkg | package tcadmin-2-bi.x86_64.deb is already installed |
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| 03:22.21 | abrotman | does it need ot be started? |
| 03:22.37 | Intell`godbox | it started already |
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| 03:23.20 | Intell`godbox | if you could just help me set the server to listen for 8880 |
| 03:23.22 | abrotman | so it's broken? |
| 03:23.24 | Intell`godbox | im sure it should work? |
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| 03:23.31 | abrotman | what is tcadmin ? |
| 03:23.41 | Intell`godbox | server management |
| 03:23.46 | abrotman | Total Connundrum! |
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| 03:23.55 | abrotman | oh .. not an RTS? |
| 03:24.22 | Jayro | Hello, I am trying to install debian stable however DHCP is failing and there is no reason for it to fail. If i try to set it up manually, DNS fails later in the install.... can anyone help me out? |
| 03:25.01 | abrotman | blames somiaj |
| 03:25.06 | Intell`godbox | netstat -an | grep 8880 |
| 03:25.08 | Intell`godbox | ? |
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| 03:26.22 | abrotman | curses the vibrating work phone |
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| 03:27.08 | nvz | abrotman: on call? |
| 03:27.16 | abrotman | nvz: no .. just vibrating :) |
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| 03:28.46 | Jayro | of course as soon as i come in here and complain my problem goes away.. :) |
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| 03:29.22 | abrotman | Jayro: we have powers |
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| 03:30.30 | Jayro | abrotman, I have discovered that in the past, but it amazes me every time. |
| 03:30.54 | Jayro | You yourself have helped me in the past, :p |
| 03:31.09 | somiaj | breaks things |
| 03:31.38 | simonlnu | watches as somiaj times out |
| 03:32.23 | Intell`godbox | are use able to give me help on seting 8880 to listen? |
| 03:33.01 | simonlnu | you don't configure the port, you configure the daemon |
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| 03:33.36 | simonlnu | ports are only open when something listens on them |
| 03:33.43 | somiaj | Intell`godbox: not really a place to support 3rd party packages. Not sure what it does for you, check the config file, check to see if it gave you a script to start it in /etc/init.d/ (looking at dpkg -L pkgname is useful to see what files it installed) |
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| 03:37.22 | z28 | Intell`godbox: according to tcadmin linux installs, default listening port is 8890 NOT 8080 |
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| 03:38.39 | b0xxy | z28 i was using 8880 lol |
| 03:38.40 | abrotman | Jayro: i don't mean to .. just have powers :) |
| 03:38.42 | b0xxy | i'll try 8890 |
| 03:38.52 | z28 | Intell`godbox: err, not 8880 rather |
| 03:38.57 | Jayro | abrotman, well keep doing what you are doing ! |
| 03:39.18 | b0xxy | still does not work |
| 03:39.24 | abrotman | yay! |
| 03:39.25 | b0xxy | im stumped |
| 03:39.26 | z28 | Intell`godbox: a netstat -tuap should show the port, pid and program |
| 03:40.15 | b0xxy | and if its not listed the program is not running? |
| 03:40.56 | z28 | Intell`godbox: correct |
| 03:40.59 | Jayro | abrotman, do you know how i would go about install a .pcf font? |
| 03:41.08 | abrotman | Jayro: what's a font? |
| 03:41.29 | Jayro | I must be missing something obvious. |
| 03:41.40 | abrotman | Jayro: in short, no .. i basically use whatever fonts they give .. i'm not a fonts person at all .. they could give me wingdings .. i'd just translate it |
| 03:42.30 | Jayro | oh?:) well i have a .pcf with a modified version of a font with icons in the font for DWM. |
| 03:43.22 | abrotman | no really .. i don't pay attention to fonts |
| 03:44.19 | Jayro | gotcha |
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| 03:45.48 | abrotman | really can't stress that enough |
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| 03:51.49 | z28 | Intell`godbox: I'm familiar with this program tcadmin, but it looks like you need to configure it via web interface before it will do anything. According to tcadmin.com. |
| 03:52.18 | z28 | Intell`godbox: correction, I am NOT familiar with tcadmin. sorry. |
| 03:52.35 | abrotman | bah who is .. |
| 03:53.07 | z28 | abrotman: apparently it's a game server. |
| 03:53.12 | Intell`godbox | found out alot of problems i overlooked |
| 03:53.22 | abrotman | total conundrum ? |
| 03:53.22 | Intell`godbox | libgdiplus |
| 03:53.22 | Intell`godbox | mono |
| 03:53.23 | Intell`godbox | mono-basic |
| 03:53.23 | Intell`godbox | xsp |
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| 03:53.27 | Intell`godbox | oops |
| 03:53.27 | abrotman | oh .. so misspelled :) |
| 03:53.28 | Intell`godbox | sorry |
| 03:53.52 | z28 | Intell`godbox: looks like you need mysql also, just for starters. |
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| 03:54.19 | Intell`godbox | yeh i think its ok now |
| 03:54.22 | Intell`godbox | i over looked all this shit |
| 03:54.27 | Intell`godbox | bangs head on wall |
| 03:54.30 | abrotman | eat the green pill |
| 03:54.40 | somiaj | abrotman: have an extra? |
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| 03:55.13 | abrotman | somiaj: it's nyquil |
| 03:55.24 | abrotman | original green death flavor |
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| 03:55.43 | Ziefin | Anyone know why my ethernet isn't able to connect to the internet? |
| 03:56.34 | somiaj | Ziefin: and we know what kinda of isp you have, routers, and set up. Maybe give a bit more details. My guess is it is your router/gateway |
| 03:57.04 | Ziefin | no its not |
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| 03:57.26 | abrotman | it's firmware?! |
| 03:57.39 | Ziefin | already did route add default gw <IP> eth0 |
| 03:57.44 | Ziefin | i am dual homed |
| 03:57.53 | abrotman | oh, i have that problem |
| 03:58.01 | Ziefin | and when I was using fedora the network manager was all jacked up |
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| 03:59.12 | Ziefin | I have an ASUS motherboard using the MCP55 nvidia drivers |
| 03:59.57 | josie_ | hello |
| 03:59.59 | Ziefin | been reading online that the nvidia drivers dont work well |
| 04:00.27 | z28 | josie_: hello |
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| 04:01.41 | z28 | josie_: /msg nick ... but its proper etiquette to ask first. |
| 04:03.53 | willmore | I'm trying to restore a system from a tar backup of the filesystem. I've got everything in place--files coppied, UUIDs fixed, etc. But, I need to install grub so it's bootable. |
| 04:03.54 | willmore | Any easy way to chroot into the FS and do that while running on a completely different machien--that I don't want to hose? |
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| 04:07.33 | somiaj | willmore: just be careful if you plan to move the hardrive to a different machine than the one your are chrooting into |
| 04:07.40 | acu | how to launch iceweasel through ssh -X ? - forgot about ssh -X iceweasel acu@remotecomputer ? |
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| 04:10.07 | willmore | somiaj, I am. But I just tried something different. I booted the other machine and got the root=UID= set to the drive. So, now I'm booted into the right environment--it should be able to grub-install natively, now. *crossfingers* |
| 04:11.07 | somiaj | willmore: yes, using the rescue option on the debian instalers can be a nice way too. |
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| 04:11.47 | willmore | somiaj, if I could find the install CD, I might have tried that. Sadly, this is my firewall, so I'm a bit limited on what I can do when it's not working--the reason I can say this is because I got it booted up finally. |
| 04:12.11 | THE_GFR|WORK | I have no networking on the thing now |
| 04:12.34 | THE_GFR|WORK | I can't even ping the box now |
| 04:13.35 | willmore | brb |
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| 04:15.51 | willmore | Am I back? |
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| 04:16.10 | z28 | willmore: yes you are. |
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| 04:17.09 | willmore | z28 thanks, hard to tell--just rebooted the router/fw into it's final home. boots pretty fast for an old box. Then again, it's a stripped debian system on a CF card. 50MB/s and near zero seek time can't hurt boot speeds at all. Even for an old sempron. :) |
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| 04:19.01 | willmore | Now to run an update/upgrade on it to take it to final squeeze. |
| 04:19.21 | acu | how can you start an X application through ssh ? - Forgot about it |
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| 04:19.55 | willmore | acu, do you have X forwarding on in ssh/sshd? |
| 04:20.14 | somiaj | acu: ssh -X <binary> I thought was all you needed, but yea ensure your sshd server supports it (and you have an xserver on your server) |
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| 04:20.45 | willmore | somiaj, you mean an X server on your client. ;) |
| 04:21.12 | somiaj | willmore: no you need an xclient on your client |
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| 04:21.41 | somiaj | since that is where you want to display the application. (: |
| 04:21.43 | Jayro | I just installed the nvidea drivers for my kernel from the debian repos, ran nvidia-xconfig, and now gdm3 never displays, i just get a black screen. Can anyone help me out? |
| 04:21.57 | willmore | ssh runs on the client, sshd runs on the server. An X client will run on the server and talk back to the X server on the client...... |
| 04:22.41 | somiaj | Jayro: nvidia-xconfig is really outdated. /msg dpkg nvidia dkms |
| 04:23.06 | somiaj | Jayro: really just add a small xorg.conf to use the nvidia drivers, but you don't need a whole xorg.conf file anymore, most of that is best to leave to automatic detection |
| 04:23.18 | somiaj | Jayro: also check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look for errors. |
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| 04:23.43 | Jayro | somiaj, thanks |
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| 04:24.28 | somiaj | willmore: with X11 forwarding, aren't you forwarding the xserver from the server you sshed to to the remote client you want to view the application on? -- though maybe Im' just running myself in circles |
| 04:25.45 | willmore | somiaj, nope, it's the other way arround. If I'm on A and ssh to B, and run an X command, the connection gets routed from the Xclient program on B back over the tunnel to the Xserver on A. |
| 04:26.32 | willmore | If you want to run a client on A and have it display on b, ssh from A to B without X forwarding and then ssh back *with* X forwarding--or just be on B to start with. |
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| 04:31.52 | yagoo | somiaj, X11 forwarding means you're running a remote X11 app only to show it's display on the local machine. The local machine needs an engine to display.. so it's essential two engines: Xserver(local)<->Xserver(remote) |
| 04:31.52 | willmore | okay, firewall is running nicely, time for bed. |
| 04:32.00 | willmore | later. |
| 04:32.35 | willmore | yagoo, there is no need for an xserver on the remote. |
| 04:32.49 | yagoo | somiaj, i don't use X11 forwarding.. I tend to use nomachine's nx.. it's faster and easier to use.. it's basically download the 3 .debs, dpkg -i *deb and it's ready to be used |
| 04:33.04 | Jayro | somiaj, this is what happens when i try to generate a new xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/WSGiXLg2 |
| 04:33.05 | Jayro | :s |
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| 04:34.41 | somiaj | Jayro: again you seem to be creating a full xorg.conf file which you don't need. |
| 04:35.15 | Jayro | oh, i though that was how it detected things was running X -configure |
| 04:35.22 | somiaj | Jayro: http://paste.debian.net/153774/ -- unless you have special neesd a simple xorg.conf like that should be all you need |
| 04:35.37 | somiaj | Jayro: just run 'startx' after you put in a simple config like that |
| 04:36.32 | Jayro | ill give it a shot :) |
| 04:36.35 | yagoo | Jayro, it would be in ~/ (/root) , but often it's not an optimal sample configuration |
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| 04:40.59 | Jayro | somiaj, that still just causes a black screen instead of gdm3 |
| 04:41.44 | somiaj | Jayro: I woudln't worry about gdm3 until you got x working. so just stop gdm3 (/etc/init.d/gdm stop) and get x working with startx |
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| 04:41.53 | somiaj | Jayro: also do what I said, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log see what it says |
| 04:43.26 | yagoo | Jayro, do you have an onboard video chip? |
| 04:43.40 | Jayro | yagoo, no. |
| 04:43.59 | yagoo | Jayro, look for any e-did errors in the x log.. |
| 04:44.18 | Jayro | Section "Device" |
| 04:44.18 | Jayro | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.19 | Jayro | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.19 | Jayro | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.19 | Jayro | EndSection |
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| 04:44.30 | Jayro | Oops, wrong paste.. |
| 04:44.33 | yagoo | Jayro, try using dpaste.com or a similar site |
| 04:44.45 | Jayro | I only ment to paste 1 line :) |
| 04:45.18 | Jayro | but here is something ! http://dpaste.com/693802/ |
| 04:45.46 | somiaj | Jayro: also make sure teh BusID actually works for your system, you could comment that line out too. (i just copied that from mine) |
| 04:45.57 | Jayro | somiaj, good idea. |
| 04:46.08 | somiaj | Jayro: that error tells you exactaly what the problem is |
| 04:46.20 | yagoo | Jayro, is that from X -configure? |
| 04:46.26 | yagoo | Jayro, or frmo /etc/X11 ? |
| 04:46.28 | somiaj | Jayro: the nvidia kernel module is not loaded, did you insatll the nvidia kernel dkms package and the headers for your kernel |
| 04:47.23 | yagoo | he upgraded his kernel, but not his nvidia module it seems |
| 04:47.33 | Jayro | yagoo, that was from /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 04:47.59 | Jayro | somiaj, so what are the package I should have installed? I am probably just missing headers. |
| 04:48.10 | somiaj | the dkms package should have done that automtaically unless he didn't insatll the kernel headers |
| 04:48.21 | somiaj | linux-headers-version which matches your kernel |
| 04:48.49 | Jayro | Ok, I had installed nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 04:49.24 | Jayro | installing the headers now. |
| 04:50.29 | somiaj | oh you installed a premade nvidia package, I'm not use to those |
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| 04:50.46 | somiaj | Jayro: uname -a (what kernel are you running)? |
| 04:51.02 | somiaj | guess uname -r would have been better |
| 04:51.24 | Jayro | Linux phil 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Jan 9 20:49:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 04:52.38 | Jayro | somiaj, i am sure i installed the right package for my kernal, However X does not like it. |
| 04:53.02 | somiaj | Jayro: what does 'lsmod | grep nvidia' or 'modprobe nvidia' do for you? |
| 04:53.12 | somiaj | first sees if the module is loaded, if not second will try and load it |
| 04:53.23 | somiaj | (you won't need the headers for the precompiled module you installed afiak) |
| 04:55.02 | Jayro | somiaj, http://dpaste.com/693805/ looks like its loaded. |
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| 04:55.48 | somiaj | shouldn't have needed to modprobe it then. Check "dmesg | grep nvidia" |
| 04:57.46 | Jayro | somiaj, http://pastebin.com/0pkPMLdd (too long for dpaste appearently) |
| 04:58.35 | somiaj | well there is your problem but I have no clue what it is...lots of errors. |
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| 04:58.50 | Jayro | somiaj, yeah.. :( |
| 04:59.01 | acu | where is the history kept for iceweasel - I have a remote machine to which I have ssh access and I want to check one site I access today through Iceweasel - but I cannot start it through ssh -X acu@remotemachine iceweasel - and perhaps I can just navigate to the place where history is kept - can anyone help ? |
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| 04:59.29 | somiaj | acu: in the .firefox profile (just like firefox) |
| 05:00.12 | karlpinc | acu: You can probably do ssh -X acu@remotemachine iceweasel --no-remote |
| 05:00.15 | pnocti | i have downloaded all the debian DVDs (all 8 of them) so I can perform an installation on a box with a very slow net connection, problem is when I install squeeze it still tries to connect to the internet and it takes several hours for that. how can i prevent that? |
| 05:00.52 | karlpinc | pnocti: Don't configure the network. If necessary use expert mode (but I don't think it's necessary). See the install guide. |
| 05:01.31 | pnocti | karlpinc: can i configure the network later after install? |
| 05:02.24 | somiaj | pnocti: yes |
| 05:02.40 | pnocti | thanks guys. |
| 05:03.34 | somiaj | Jayro: google gave no useful query to that error for me. I would try to install your kernel-headers package, install the nvidia dkms package (so it compiles the module against your actual kernel) and not use the prebuilt one. I don't know if this will change things, but I have never used the prebuilt modules for nvidia |
| 05:03.51 | karlpinc | somiaj: (I'm wondering what the debconf way is to configure the network.) |
| 05:03.58 | Jayro | somiaj, i think i will try the drivers from nvidia :) |
| 05:04.15 | somiaj | Jayro: good luck with that, won't get much support from #debian though. |
| 05:04.35 | Jayro | somiaj, well its worth a shot. |
| 05:04.54 | somiaj | karlpinc: there is one? I guess learning to use /etc/network/interfaces is to hard. |
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| 05:05.39 | somiaj | Jayro: what video card? |
| 05:05.43 | karlpinc | somiaj: It's gotta be in some package, and doesn't every package use debconf? Just curious. |
| 05:06.01 | Jayro | somiaj, Nvidia 550 GTX TI |
| 05:06.35 | somiaj | Jayro: is this on a laptop/desktop? But that is an issue right there, squeeze drivers are going to be to old, so backport or just try the offical nvidia ones. |
| 05:06.49 | somiaj | Jayro: it isn't coupled with a sandybridge cpu (just makeing sure) |
| 05:07.09 | somiaj | Jayro: you will probabaly need to install a backported kernel and backported xorg too for that card. |
| 05:07.27 | THE_GFR|WORK | trying to use gapcmon, it says (gapcmon:6739): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: ideas? |
| 05:07.32 | Jayro | somiaj, yes its sandybridge., |
| 05:08.04 | somiaj | karlpinc: I don't really know. I would assume every package used debconf, but I don't think there is a package that manages the intefaces file with debconf. That is just something the installer does afiak |
| 05:08.22 | somiaj | Jayro: last I checked (month ago) linux has no support for nvidia cards coupled with sandybridge |
| 05:08.44 | somiaj | Jayro: you can get the sandybridge (intell) to work with X, but you will need the backported kernel and xorg server from backports.debian.org. |
| 05:08.56 | karlpinc | somiaj: Ok, fine. You've exhausted my curiousity. :) |
| 05:09.02 | Jayro | somiaj, i have had this card working in the past :) i just dont remember if i had it with a debian package or not. |
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| 05:10.31 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: Ever get your vnc working? |
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| 05:11.44 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: nope |
| 05:12.12 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: I have a different issue now though, is there a better GUI tool for monitoring your UPS from APCUPSD than gapcmon? |
| 05:12.22 | THE_GFR|WORK | because gapcmon isn't working |
| 05:12.49 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: I've wanted to use nut/nut-cgi/etc. for a while now but have never gotten around to it. So, dunno. |
| 05:13.21 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: You'd abandon acpupsd though. |
| 05:13.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: well that sucks |
| 05:13.47 | THE_GFR|WORK | is there a gui tool for the APC UPSs? |
| 05:13.49 | somiaj | Jayro: maybe it was the 530M/sandybridge combo that swithces between the two on a laptop depending on ussage for power reasons. I do recall that having no linux support when I last looked it up. |
| 05:14.16 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: it's monitoring I just want a gui tool since gapcmon is broken |
| 05:14.21 | somiaj | Jayro: but either way, for squeeze, insatll the backported kernel/xorg server first, then install newer debian drivers -- I would use a backported debian package, but I don't think there is one. |
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| 05:14.28 | THE_GFR|WORK | and I cannot get it working |
| 05:14.57 | somiaj | Jayro: newer nvidia drivers. Your card/cpu is just a bit too bleeding edge for squeeze to support by default. |
| 05:15.05 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: ideas? |
| 05:15.23 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: Sounds like you might, for some reason have to set your $DISPLAY to get gapcmon to work. |
| 05:15.27 | Jayro | somiaj, how do i get backported packages? |
| 05:15.29 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: nut-cgi is a gui interface. |
| 05:15.49 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: it loads I just can't add the UPS to it |
| 05:15.54 | karlpinc | Jayro: Instructions are at backports.debian.org, if you've not seen the <bdo> factoid. |
| 05:16.16 | Jayro | karlpinc, ill take a look, thanks. |
| 05:16.33 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: it? |
| 05:16.41 | THE_GFR|WORK | what? |
| 05:16.50 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: gapcmon sorry |
| 05:16.50 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: The "it" that loads. |
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| 05:17.19 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: Dunno. Check the bug tracking system for fixes/workarounds/etc. |
| 05:17.31 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: yea I dunno it gives me a bunch of crap |
| 05:17.41 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: I installed nut-cgi but how do I use it? |
| 05:17.52 | THE_GFR|WORK | hmm |
| 05:18.25 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: You'd also install nut, if it does not install automatically. Then you'd rtfm. man -k nut or dpkg -L nut see also <readme.debian>. |
| 05:19.07 | THE_GFR|WORK | k |
| 05:19.12 | THE_GFR|WORK | hmm any other tools? |
| 05:19.28 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: I've no clue if you can do everything through the gui or not. Proably not. You'll actually have to type text into a file. *gasp* |
| 05:19.40 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: Dunno. Use debtags to search. |
| 05:19.49 | Jayro | somiaj, I decided to run thru the nvidia installer first, just for shits and gigs. and it just automagically works now. :) |
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| 05:20.12 | Jayro | no backports or anything else needed. |
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| 05:20.39 | somiaj | Jayro: oh good, I wasn't sure if the 2.6.32 kernel and xorg server in squeeze was new enough for the current nvidia drivers |
| 05:20.57 | Jayro | somiaj, well for future record, it is ! :D |
| 05:20.59 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: Or, you can investigate the $DISPLAY with gapcmon as I mentioned above. |
| 05:21.02 | Jayro | somiaj, thanks for all of your help. |
| 05:21.21 | somiaj | Jayro: yea the major issues was just the version of the nvidia drivers. glad it works |
| 05:21.36 | Jayro | now on to get DWM working, |
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| 05:23.22 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: http://pastebin.com/SSdd4gLq |
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| 05:24.20 | somiaj | Jayro: good luck, sorry to take so long to ask you what card...(: |
| 05:24.38 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: How did you install gapcmon? |
| 05:25.06 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: apt-get install gapcmon |
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| 05:25.59 | Jayro | somiaj, dont worry about it :) |
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| 05:26.13 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: Something looks broken. I'd surely look for/file a bug report. |
| 05:26.31 | Trewas | THE_GFR|WORK: are you running it as root or normal user? |
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| 05:27.31 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: And do you have the backend daemon running? (acpupsd wasn't it?) |
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| 05:33.42 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: You should also read the <readme.debian> for gapcmon, if existant. |
| 05:34.18 | Jayro | somiaj, oh great.. now xorg does not like my gaming mouse.. |
| 05:34.36 | somiaj | yea xorg isn't very nice with mice over 5 or 9 buttons |
| 05:35.09 | THE_GFR|WORK | k |
| 05:35.53 | Jayro | somiaj, xorg must hate me, my mouse has 14 buttons. :) |
| 05:35.54 | THE_GFR|WORK | not sure how that helps but yea |
| 05:36.15 | somiaj | Jayro: you can run 'xev' and then click the mouse buttons to see which events xorg registers |
| 05:36.33 | Jayro | somiaj, way ahead of you. |
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| 05:46.50 | skilz | Hey guys and girls, why does debian change my console font towards to end of the boot process? I like the initial font, also my framebuffer tux image disappears from the top left of my boot screen. How do I stop this from happening? |
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| 05:49.38 | skilz | How so when I run sudo Xorg -configure it does not generate a /etc/X11/Xorg.conf for me to edit |
| 05:49.48 | skilz | I only have 8 color display |
| 05:49.58 | skilz | I need to fix this |
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| 05:51.28 | somiaj | skilz: it is the framebuffer, and it uses a different font than the default one |
| 05:51.55 | skilz | How do I make it stay the same? |
| 05:52.00 | somiaj | skilz: depending on the graphics card/module you use the framebuffer is part of it. As for Xorg -configure you shouldn't need it. But I belive it puts a config file in ~/ |
| 05:52.01 | skilz | and keep the image of tux? |
| 05:52.11 | somiaj | what videocard? |
| 05:52.22 | skilz | GeForce2 |
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| 05:52.35 | somiaj | what graphics driver? |
| 05:52.37 | skilz | the box is an old 700mhz G4 eMac PPC |
| 05:52.41 | skilz | nouveau |
| 05:53.10 | somiaj | nouveau requires a framebuffer to work, so what you see is when the nouveau driver is loaded it replaces the console with its framebuffer |
| 05:53.12 | skilz | ive been googling all night |
| 05:53.14 | THE_GFR|WORK | ew emac |
| 05:53.29 | skilz | trying to fix my display |
| 05:53.34 | somiaj | I don't think you can save the font and or tmux image when this happens, (though I am unsure how to control what font nouveau uses) |
| 05:53.45 | skilz | xrandr is unable to detect minitor |
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| 05:54.15 | skilz | can I use the framebuffer driver for x? |
| 05:54.31 | skilz | I cant change my color settings |
| 05:54.51 | THE_GFR|WORK | Psi-Jack: it removed vino too!!! OMG I screwed myself |
| 05:54.52 | somiaj | that is how nouveau works, the xdriver connets to the framebuffer. You shouldn't need an xorg.conf file and a blank one (or no file) will cause your system to detect things. |
| 05:55.42 | THE_GFR|WORK | shit shit shit |
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| 05:56.04 | yamahaalex37 | Hi |
| 05:56.06 | yamahaalex37 | what is this "pdf" thing in my samba share by default? |
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| 05:56.33 | THE_GFR|WORK | Psi-Jack: how do I get all the things it removed back? |
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| 05:57.07 | somiaj | yamahaalex37: what pdf thing, you mean there is a file there? 'dpkg -S /path/to/file' will tell you if a debian package owns that file. |
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| 05:57.32 | yamahaalex37 | somiaj: , no I see it in Windows |
| 05:57.38 | yamahaalex37 | when I access the share, next to my home folder |
| 05:57.40 | takahiro | hi can someone help me figure out why i can't ping any internet addresses from my linux box? https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1aVQsddHHdm2rCQdYSND_UotJ5EvtaDpqicOU-cIPRak/edit |
| 05:57.45 | yamahaalex37 | is a printer icon, labeled pdf |
| 05:58.59 | skilz | Cool |
| 05:59.01 | somiaj | yamahaalex37: check the default config file you have, maybe it is setup a remote printer and detected a print to pdf option. |
| 05:59.02 | skilz | YESSSSS |
| 05:59.06 | skilz | I just fixed it! :))) |
| 05:59.09 | elise-- | Is debian.org the site? |
| 05:59.28 | somiaj | elise--: yes debian.org is where to start learing about debian. |
| 05:59.54 | skilz | Guys if just for future reference if anyone asks here is how I fixed it! >> http://mac.linux.be/content/xorgconf-emac-g4800-nvidia |
| 06:00.46 | somiaj | so you are using the 'nv' driver and not 'nouveau'. They are different |
| 06:01.04 | elise-- | Does debian still use its own kernal or is it Linus? |
| 06:01.06 | somiaj | these days most that stuff should and will automatically detect itself. |
| 06:01.27 | yamahaalex37 | thanks somiaj |
| 06:01.30 | somiaj | elise--: the debian kernels have patches, some of which place non-free firmware blobs into seperate packages. |
| 06:01.37 | yamahaalex37 | but I search "pdf" in samb.conf, and nothing |
| 06:01.45 | yamahaalex37 | and I have all print options to browsable/usable = no |
| 06:01.59 | somiaj | yamahaalex37: check the printer section, my guess is it is detecting printers. And you have a print to pdf printer (virtual printer) per say |
| 06:02.01 | elise-- | So, Linus base? |
| 06:02.42 | yamahaalex37 | should I be trying to use WORKGROUP or domain with samba? |
| 06:02.50 | somiaj | elise--: correct, and compling a linus kernel works just fine, even tools to packget it in a debian package to install/remove on your system |
| 06:03.07 | takahiro | any ideas why i can't ping any internet addresses? |
| 06:03.13 | somiaj | yamahaalex37: depends on what you are doing. But workgroup is for simple file sharing, domain is if you are part of a windows domain (usually with primisions and such to log into/out of) |
| 06:03.28 | yamahaalex37 | just a couple home computers, I think workgroup will be fine |
| 06:03.39 | elise-- | Solaris is not Linus based, right? |
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| 06:04.13 | sweetpi | takahiro: can you ping your router? |
| 06:04.36 | somiaj | elise--: what do you mean? The debian spark port? Solaris is not a linux based operating system. |
| 06:05.01 | takahiro | sweetpi: yes, i can ping all 192.168.2.X ips valid ones in both directions from win->linux and linux->win |
| 06:05.14 | takahiro | sweetpi: including 192.168.2.1 which is my routers ip |
| 06:05.16 | somiaj | elise--: linus based kernels are the most common but debian has a kfreebsd port and a hurd port (though not sure on the condition of this) |
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| 06:05.34 | sweetpi | takahiro: what about dns, or are you pinging actual ips? |
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| 06:06.38 | takahiro | actual ips |
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| 06:06.45 | takahiro | and all actual ips will fail from Linux |
| 06:07.05 | elise-- | What I mean is I don't want to collect Linux distributions, but rather "Unix" style OS's |
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| 06:07.46 | elise-- | For Linux I'd use Ubuntu or mandrake, but I actually use slax. |
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| 06:08.10 | elise-- | Off USB, as a hypervisor. |
| 06:08.52 | elise-- | But Solaris is not Linux, is it bsd? |
| 06:08.59 | sweetpi | takahiro: oh, you have the linux box behind a router that is connected to a windows box that has the actual net connection? |
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| 06:09.21 | kl4m | It's Solaris, its own kernel |
| 06:09.28 | elise-- | OK |
| 06:09.40 | elise-- | And bsd is its own? |
| 06:09.48 | tensorpudding | solaris is derived from bsd and system v unix, by way of a long history |
| 06:09.54 | kl4m | elise--, and own collection of programs, but probably a lot of GNU programs mixed in |
| 06:10.05 | tensorpudding | it's its own entity though |
| 06:10.12 | takahiro | sweetpi: yep exactly |
| 06:10.33 | takahiro | sweetpi: the windows box runs windows 7 and has drivers for the sprint broadband card so im stuck with it |
| 06:10.49 | elise-- | So, having Solaris and bsd would be repetition? |
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| 06:11.42 | sweetpi | takahiro: do you have any other boxes that are working connected to the router? |
| 06:12.17 | takahiro | nope i dont |
| 06:12.30 | yamahaalex37 | whats the difference between # comment and ; |
| 06:12.43 | takahiro | oh and setting the linux box gateway to 192.168.2.4 still does let me ping on the subnet but still cant ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 06:12.43 | sweetpi | takahiro: what ports are the linux and windows boxes plugged into? |
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| 06:12.51 | kl4m | elise--, Solaris started diverging from BSD in ~1987, so it's mostly a separate product with historical similarities now |
| 06:12.59 | takahiro | sweetpi: let me check |
| 06:13.06 | somiaj | elise--: I see them as seperate things, but here http://www.levenez.com/unix/unix_letter.pdf |
| 06:13.31 | takahiro | sweetpi: windows is plugged into port 2 and linux is plugged into port 3 and the WAN port is empty |
| 06:13.40 | elise-- | They both pass the "Unix" test? |
| 06:14.21 | kl4m | elise--, assuming the Unix test is POSIX compliance, yes |
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| 06:16.21 | elise-- | OK, so Ubuntu, Solaris, DOS, windows, beos, ... |
| 06:16.47 | tensorpudding | what is that |
| 06:17.20 | elise-- | I'm collecting ISO images for my win7 box as a hypervisor system using vbox(primarily) |
| 06:17.24 | somiaj | lots of things that are not debian. |
| 06:17.45 | elise-- | Ubuntu isn't a debian district? |
| 06:17.51 | elise-- | Distro |
| 06:18.14 | sweetpi | takahiro: only thing i can think is the bridge on the windows box isnt setup right. double check the lan card on the windows box |
| 06:18.24 | yamahaalex37 | ok debian is not rolling, but Linux Mint Debian is rolling |
| 06:18.27 | yamahaalex37 | so wtf makes that debian |
| 06:18.31 | elise-- | Sorry I'm on an android phone and my autocomplete is missing a lot of words |
| 06:18.40 | sweetpi | takahiro: last time i checked when you enable ics it screws with your internal nic |
| 06:18.54 | tensorpudding | not all of those operating systems will work in virtualbox, as far as i am aware |
| 06:18.54 | yamahaalex37 | how can a rolling distro be debian, its no different than Linux Mint, which is also debian based |
| 06:18.58 | yamahaalex37 | i just dont get the difference |
| 06:19.03 | tensorpudding | i doubt beos is supported on x86, for instance |
| 06:19.12 | elise-- | They all work in vbox. |
| 06:19.22 | elise-- | It is. |
| 06:19.24 | tensorpudding | wait, nevermind, it was ported |
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| 06:19.43 | elise-- | Beos 5 is x86 |
| 06:19.59 | takahiro | sweetpi: yea but i modified the internal nic ip |
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| 06:20.02 | elise-- | But I don't own my CD anymore, I use haiku |
| 06:21.08 | elise-- | Mandrake the latest however seems to not work in vbox. |
| 06:21.37 | elise-- | And I know Solaris has high system requirements. |
| 06:22.03 | sweetpi | takahiro: put ipconfig /all from the windows box in that doc |
| 06:22.13 | takahiro | ok |
| 06:22.39 | sweetpi | takahiro: routing table also |
| 06:23.11 | somiaj | yamahaalex37: debian release a frozen stable system with security support. While it uses a moving (this is not a release) testing system to test and stablize packages for the next release. Distros like Debian Mint or Ubuntu take from this testing system and preform their own testing/fixes and call it a release. But neither of them are debian, as they change things to their standards and provide their own support for the packages/versions the |
| 06:23.57 | yamahaalex37 | right somiaj , i just understand why its called Linux Mint Debian Edition, becuase linux Mint is also debian based |
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| 06:24.25 | elise-- | So Ubuntu is a debian Distro, but not to the debian standard? |
| 06:24.29 | somiaj | correct, it is debian based |
| 06:24.52 | somiaj | elise--: based on debian is not the same as debian (debian has it's own standards and policies about security, stability, etc) |
| 06:25.07 | elise-- | Right. |
| 06:25.16 | takahiro | sweetpi: i put it here http://pastebin.com/Aac8YJ9D |
| 06:25.17 | elise-- | Thanks. |
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| 06:26.51 | kl4m | Ubuntu started as a clone of Debian and worked from there with its own policies and decisions. It's still not far enough that many debians .deb's will work straight on ubuntu, and many Ubuntu packages are still pulled straight from Debian |
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| 06:27.16 | yamahaalex37 | smoiaj, neither LM or LMDE are debian, but both are debian based |
| 06:27.21 | yamahaalex37 | i guess one is just closer than the other... |
| 06:28.13 | yamahaalex37 | can I create a samba user to login from windows |
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| 06:28.17 | yamahaalex37 | without having that be a user on the linux server |
| 06:28.33 | yamahaalex37 | i dont want that user to show up on the login screen for the server |
| 06:28.40 | yamahaalex37 | but I do want them to have access to their shares from other PCs |
| 06:29.27 | somiaj | it is mostly the core and versions (they grab from testing/unstable repos) is the differences. |
| 06:29.36 | Blue1 | yamahaalex37: i want to say smbuser/smbpass - but it's been way too long since I futzed with that. |
| 06:29.48 | somiaj | yamahaalex37: yes there are tools to do that, and such. Blue1 got ya on that one. |
| 06:29.55 | yamahaalex37 | smbpasswd -a username |
| 06:30.02 | yamahaalex37 | but that gives me Failed to add entry |
| 06:30.06 | Blue1 | I stand corrected |
| 06:30.21 | somiaj | You might have to configure samba to look for a smbpasswd file though |
| 06:30.33 | Blue1 | what he said |
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| 06:31.14 | Blue1 | yamahaalex37: this may/may not help: http://pkill-9.com/how-to-configure-samba-in-ubuntu-using-a-gui/ YMMV applies |
| 06:31.25 | chelz | what's a good way to get a single value for a free ram count, say in megabytes? |
| 06:31.35 | yamahaalex37 | smbpasswd -a username works for a user on the machine |
| 06:31.42 | Blue1 | chelz: top |
| 06:31.46 | yamahaalex37 | do you think theres a different comamand to create a samba user |
| 06:31.56 | sweetpi | takahiro: check doc chat |
| 06:31.58 | somiaj | chelz: cat /proc/meminfo -- though free ram is bad ram, you know how linux caching works? |
| 06:32.14 | chelz | somiaj: yeah i've googled about it |
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| 06:32.50 | chelz | /proc/meminfo looks good |
| 06:32.54 | somiaj | chelz: cat /proc/meminfo | grep Free -- though that number should usually be failry small. |
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| 06:33.23 | somiaj | as in your free memory is used to cache files to speed things up so it isn't contsally reading/writing to the drive |
| 06:33.55 | chelz | somiaj: yeah "free -m" has "-/+ buffers/cache" |
| 06:34.08 | chelz | somiaj: trying to find the buffers/cache line in meminfo atm |
| 06:35.19 | somiaj | chelz: cat /proc/meminfo | head -n 5 -- that seems to limit the list to what you want |
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| 06:39.47 | chelz | somiaj: hmm i might not understand memory usage as well as i thought. i'm basically trying to replicate the figure Gnome System Monitor gives |
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| 06:42.17 | somiaj | chelz: If you want a simple monintor, I like xosview |
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| 06:44.14 | yamahaalex37 | is there anything I can put in /etc/samba/smbuser to make a user that is not a machine user |
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| 06:45.19 | somiaj | yamahaalex37: yes there is a way to add samba only users. Look up a samba tutorial or check out #samba (if you don't get any more help here) |
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| 06:46.07 | yamahaalex37 | somiaj: #samba is dead, and I have like 10 samba tuts open |
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| 06:46.10 | yamahaalex37 | but they dont seem to explain this |
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| 06:47.07 | yuurbaa | Please correct my understanding if it is wrong: A shell script starts processes in the background. If the script exits (from the 'exit' builtin or because it hit the end of the file), then the background processes are re-parented to init and continue running. If the script receives a SIGTERM (say, ^C), then it sends SIGTERMs to all the children and they exit. Context is this: http://pastebin.com/p2JbNrCp |
| 06:47.47 | yuurbaa | Without the 'sleep 1m' at the end, the pings have to be killed manually. |
| 06:49.40 | valdyn | yuurbaa: the pings are are not detached and not reparented, if the script dies the pings die |
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| 06:50.37 | yamahaalex37 | after more research, it seems everyone agrees you cant add a samba user without being a linux user first |
| 06:50.47 | yamahaalex37 | but is it possible to have the user login with their Windows name? |
| 06:50.58 | yamahaalex37 | I have the workgroup = myWorkgroup |
| 06:51.03 | yuurbaa | valdyn: It would appear that the pings keep running after the script exits. |
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| 06:51.21 | valdyn | yuurbaa: it does not die |
| 06:51.23 | takahiro | im trying to instal linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 with backports but apt says "depends: linux-base >= 3 but 2.6.32-39squeeze1 is to be installed" |
| 06:51.33 | valdyn | yuurbaa: the same process should still exist till the pings "finish" |
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| 06:52.17 | takahiro | nevermind i commented out the old deb lines in the conf :) |
| 06:52.19 | valdyn | yuurbaa: or you could say the pings keep the script from finishing |
| 06:53.30 | valdyn | yuurbaa: but the script is done.. ( executed to the laste line), its /bin/bash process is not done though |
| 06:53.35 | yuurbaa | valdyn: The pings keep sending output to the terminal, but ^C does not stop them unless it is issued before the sleep finishes. This is what I am observing. |
| 06:54.19 | valdyn | yuurbaa: yea, its just the background jobs running, you cant just ctrl-c background jobs |
| 06:54.39 | valdyn | yuurbaa: try it in a shell ( ping something & ), it keeps running but you cant ctrl-c it like that |
| 06:55.00 | valdyn | yuurbaa: but its not detached, if you quit the shell then the job dies |
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| 06:57.36 | yuurbaa | valdyn: If I exit the shell, I see this http://pastebin.com/G0bdA1gm |
| 06:57.42 | yuurbaa | The pings are still running. |
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| 07:02.21 | takahiro | how do i get debian to recognize my usb devices? |
| 07:02.37 | takahiro | i tried to look for /dev/ttyUSB* stuff but there's nothing listed |
| 07:03.17 | takahiro | is there a way to enable a usb kernel module? |
| 07:03.41 | somiaj | what usb devices, did you check dmesg and see what your kernel said about it |
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| 07:04.04 | yuurbaa | takahiro: also lsusb |
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| 07:06.02 | takahiro | ah |
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| 07:09.17 | skilz_ | Linux tiger 2.6.32-5-powerpc #1 Wed Jan 11 12:28:37 UTC 2012 ppc GNU/Linux |
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| 07:09.46 | skilz_ | Hey guys how do I control my monitor? I need to ajust the screen position and stretch it ect |
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| 07:10.48 | somiaj | can't you control that with the monitor itself, but you have all those custom modlines in your config file, those are what is used |
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| 07:11.03 | yuurbaa | skilz_: If it's a CRT you can use the controls on the monitor. If it's an LCD you really don't want to do that. You instead want to run it at its native resolution. |
| 07:11.47 | somiaj | skilz: what are those special modlines in your config you showed me for. Those could be messing with things (as opposed to using the one it detects from teh monintor) |
| 07:12.03 | takahiro | when i do "lsusb" i see the device on Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0489:e017 Foxconn /. Hon Hai |
| 07:12.11 | takahiro | How do I actually use this device as my USB modem? |
| 07:14.25 | yuurbaa | takahiro: It looks like there's a relatively new driver for your device: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/BCM_WIMAX.html I'm not sure how to go about installing it, other than compiling your own recent kernel. |
| 07:14.56 | Slydder | http://www.stopacta.info/ |
| 07:15.14 | takahiro | yuurbaa, i dont mind recompiling a kernel |
| 07:15.32 | takahiro | yuurbaa, the problem is i don't know how :) |
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| 07:16.42 | takahiro | and in particular, how to recompile it such that the new driver there gets included |
| 07:17.05 | takahiro | any tips? |
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| 07:18.27 | somiaj | it said it was found in linux kernels 2.6.37-2.6.39, and you can install 2.6.39 from backports.debian.org |
| 07:18.56 | yuurbaa | takahiro: The only kernel I've successfully compiled was on Gentoo with genkernel. I don't know what the process is in Debian. But as the page says, you'll want to enable the |
| 07:19.18 | somiaj | and the debian backported kernel may have it sitting there as a module for you already |
| 07:21.17 | takahiro | i already installed the 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 kernel from backports |
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| 07:21.57 | somiaj | oh nice, yea I hadn't noticed they upgraded to those versions in backports. |
| 07:21.59 | yuurbaa | takahiro: If somiaj is correct you may be able to install the backports kernel and 'modprobe bcm_wimax'. You may also need the firmware-linux-nonfree package. |
| 07:22.09 | takahiro | but when i type: modprobe bcm_wimax, it says, FATAL: Module bcm_wimax not found. |
| 07:22.53 | takahiro | can i compile the driver module separately and install it? or do i need to recompile the whole kernel? |
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| 07:25.22 | yuurbaa | takahiro: You should be able to build it seperately if you have the kernel headers. I'm not sure what the procedure is, so you'll have to look it up. |
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| 07:26.59 | takahiro | ok |
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| 07:31.02 | dpkg | hmm... ciao is both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter. |
| 07:31.16 | pip | !list |
| 07:31.16 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
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| 07:34.18 | zykotick9 | takahiro: yuurbaa there has been a thead on the debian-users mailing list the last day or two, about the steps for compiling a kernel "the debian way" (just thought i'd mention it) |
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| 07:37.45 | takahiro | im looking at some instructions and it says to install kernel-package |
| 07:37.50 | takahiro | but apt can't find it |
| 07:38.00 | takahiro | maybe kernel-package is named something else in squeeze |
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| 07:39.01 | Jayro | somiaj, hey are you still around? |
| 07:39.05 | gnarface | ,versions kernel-package |
| 07:39.05 | orudie | how do I give user sudo ? |
| 07:39.06 | judd | Package: kernel-package on i386 -- lenny: 11.015; sid: 12.036+nmu1; squeeze: 12.036+nmu1; wheezy: 12.036+nmu1 |
| 07:39.10 | somiaj | Jayro: vaguly |
| 07:39.13 | takahiro | oops nevermind i was running the wrong apt command |
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| 07:39.56 | Jayro | somiaj, I mucked up apt-get, i tried to install the glx libraries, and now whenever I try to install ANYTHING, this happens http://dpaste.com/693844/ |
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| 07:40.07 | zykotick9 | orudie: if you want them to have full sudo access, adding them to the sudo group should work |
| 07:41.09 | somiaj | Jayro: yea this is the problem with not using debian packages. You don't want to install those packages at all (since they could put conflicting nvidia stuff on your system) |
| 07:41.24 | somiaj | Jayro: I would use dpkg to remove all the nvidia packages, 'dpkg -r pkgname' |
| 07:41.33 | Jayro | somiaj, thank you. |
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| 07:43.13 | Jayro | somiaj, now that that is taken care of. Any idea how I can get GLX working? ;s |
| 07:44.04 | somiaj | Jayro: it should be working the nvidia binary should install (I haven't used it in years) all the glx libaries. You may need to install the mesa core |
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| 07:44.12 | somiaj | but I'm not sure, and unforntally this isn't really supported. |
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| 07:44.23 | Jayro | somiaj, mesa core? |
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| 07:45.19 | Jayro | somiaj, ahh i think i found the libraries |
| 07:45.21 | somiaj | mesa is the opensource glx/opengl system -- though I'm not sure what to do to get the nvidia binaries from their site to integrate with debian |
| 07:45.30 | somiaj | also not sure if you need it or what you need of it |
| 07:46.15 | Jayro | somiaj, ill keep searching around. Thanks again. |
| 07:46.26 | orudie | zykotick9, just added user to group sudo by: usermod -g sudo username |
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| 07:46.59 | orudie | zykotick9, logged in as username, typing sudo returns -bash: sudo: command not found |
| 07:47.58 | zykotick9 | orudie: is sudo installed? |
| 07:48.22 | DragonSlay | orudie, install sudo |
| 07:48.33 | orudie | ok |
| 07:48.36 | DragonSlay | and then enter yout name n sudoers file |
| 07:48.56 | orudie | great |
| 07:49.28 | zykotick9 | DragonSlay: adding name to sudoers is more then just a name entry, adding user to sudo group seems a lot simpler to me. |
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| 07:50.40 | DragonSlay | zykotick9, didn't know that exists, thnks :) |
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| 07:51.02 | dannN | Hi there. How can i make an mysqldump in rescue mode? with mysqldump -u root.... i get an error: -bash: mysqldump: command not found |
| 07:51.44 | takahiro | wow... i ran "make menuconfig" and i have no idea what all of this means... SLAB allocator? POSIX Message Queues? What on earth? |
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| 07:52.06 | somiaj | takahiro: you should be able to down load the same debian kernel source as that backported kernel you had |
| 07:52.34 | somiaj | takahiro: use the config in /boot/config-<version>, so the only thing you have to do is enable experimental drivers (if it isn't) and enable that one module you need |
| 07:52.37 | takahiro | oh where can i get that from |
| 07:53.43 | somiaj | there is a linux-source-3.2 package in backports |
| 07:54.24 | takahiro | nice |
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| 07:55.02 | somiaj | then cp /boot/config-<version> /usr/src/linux/.config (or wherever the source is extracted to, I usually make /usr/src/linux a link to the current kernel I'm compling |
| 07:55.34 | takahiro | ah okay, let me try that |
| 07:55.56 | takahiro | then make menuconfig after that? |
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| 07:56.31 | somiaj | correct, and just go look for the few options y ou need for tha tone module |
| 07:56.37 | somiaj | everythign else should already be configured for you |
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| 07:56.56 | takahiro | awesome |
| 07:57.04 | somiaj | you can also grep that config file for the actual CONFIG_ options on that page you were linked to see what they are set by the debian kernel guys |
| 07:57.05 | josef__ | does anyone know how to install grub2 on an soft raid5/lvm configuration? (wheezy) |
| 07:57.09 | dannN | Is it even possible to make an mysqldump in rescue mode? |
| 07:57.25 | somiaj | dannN: that 'command not found' sounds mroe like a path / no command issue |
| 07:57.56 | dannN | how can i fix the path, or find out whats the right path? |
| 07:58.24 | somiaj | well ls /usr/bin/mysqldump (see if the binary is installed on your system) |
| 07:58.29 | somiaj | echo $PATH to see what your path is |
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| 07:59.01 | floridsdorf | hi |
| 07:59.20 | dannN | Another question. I've backuped the folder /var/vmail to move my mails to another server. Is it enough to copy the mails into the new /var/vmail folder? |
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| 08:00.20 | dannN | somiaj: echo $PATH give me /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin back |
| 08:00.54 | somiaj | dannN: did you do ls /usr/bin/mysqldump |
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| 08:01.24 | somiaj | or even dpkg -S mysqldump |
| 08:01.30 | dannN | ls: cannot access /usr/bin/mysqldump: No such file or directory |
| 08:01.44 | somiaj | you do not have mysqldump installed, it is in the mysql-client package |
| 08:02.00 | dannN | i have, the server worked already as webserver |
| 08:02.07 | dannN | but currently i am in the rescue mode |
| 08:02.24 | somiaj | so rescue mode means you have booted up and chrooted into your install? |
| 08:02.33 | somiaj | you can have the mysql-server insatlled with out the client |
| 08:03.03 | dannN | i got it. i have to access the mysqldump through the mount point |
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| 08:03.31 | somiaj | you should chroot into your actual system if you can and work from there if you are using a some sort of live/resuce cd that didn't do that for you |
| 08:04.19 | somiaj | though I thought the debian rescue mode did that by default (if used from a debian install cd/usb) |
| 08:04.44 | dannN | yes, but i have read only mode within chroot |
| 08:06.06 | dannN | and i cant make an umount, because the server says always my mount folder is busy |
| 08:06.09 | somiaj | ahh, but yes most your binaries will be inside that, and you may need to say mount a place you can write to cause the libaries as well are inside. |
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| 08:07.09 | dannN | is it enough to backup the /var/lib/mysql folder and copy the files back after reinstalling debian? also /var/vmail ? |
| 08:07.44 | somiaj | I'd back up more than that to make sure if you have the space |
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| 08:08.32 | somiaj | but yes /var/lib/mysql is where the databases are stored |
| 08:09.29 | dannN | and how can i umount an folder which is always busy? |
| 08:10.43 | sakal | dannN, lsof /path/to/folder |
| 08:10.56 | sakal | watch who using this folder |
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| 08:12.03 | dannN | this doesn't give me back something |
| 08:12.38 | streuner_ | maybe you are already in that folder via user... |
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| 08:13.38 | dannN | i think so. but i don't want to restart the webserver. i'm afraid to can't get back into the rescue mode |
| 08:13.53 | dannN | i'll try it later again. |
| 08:14.54 | dannN | but i'm tight, if it works when i copy the /var/vmail folder back to the new installed webserver |
| 08:14.58 | dannN | i hope the mails work |
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| 08:15.12 | dannN | also the imap folder structure |
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| 08:16.05 | dannN | thanks for your help. |
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| 08:18.13 | dannN | does anybody know an way to restore the file permission in root? an employee of us executed chmod -R 750 / with php |
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| 08:19.48 | takahiro | that sounds pretty messy dannN |
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| 08:24.29 | takahiro | does debian eventually try to include more modules into their standard kernel distribs? |
| 08:24.59 | takahiro | it would be cool if my networking driver was included so i wouldn't have to recompile the kernel |
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| 08:31.06 | jampola | @dannN, how the hell is that possible? Unless someone was running the web service as root. Or he ran php from cli as root! wow! |
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| 08:46.02 | skilz_ | Hey guys when I set my wallpaper there is a section at the bottom that stays black |
| 08:46.05 | skilz_ | like where cairo-dock takes the space |
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| 08:46.14 | skilz_ | im using fluxbox |
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| 08:47.32 | FunkyBob | having a small issue recently... seems the sid and wheezy packages for python-newt are broken [tehre is a ticket] and I'm trying to revert to the squeeze version |
| 08:47.40 | FunkyBob | but aptitude isn't being at all helpful :/ |
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| 08:51.12 | DragonSlay | skilz, #fluxbox |
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| 08:56.16 | tremby | i've started getting messages like these -- what's going on? few times today. http://sprunge.us/aKKV |
| 08:56.43 | tremby | when it happens, disk activity goes crazy for a while |
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| 08:59.45 | trist4n | looks like disk activity goes crazy for a while and generates some log messages |
| 08:59.54 | Sevet | tremby: looks like your disk or controller failing (disk most likely)... could be a bad block |
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| 09:00.16 | tremby | Sevet: uh oh. backup time. thanks |
| 09:00.23 | tremby | and fscking i guess |
| 09:00.41 | trist4n | i guess if it were me id try and replicate things from a livecd |
| 09:00.44 | trist4n | assuming i could take it down |
| 09:00.45 | tremby | i've dropped this laptop a couple of times, gonna take its toll! |
| 09:01.30 | DragonSlay | any best commandline rss feedreader available with google reader support |
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| 09:02.48 | lasers` | DragonSlay: Dunno about extras, but I knew about this. newsbeuter |
| 09:03.43 | DragonSlay | ty |
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| 09:05.51 | lasers` | DragonSlay: Let me know how it is. Google Reader? Etc. :) |
| 09:05.54 | akston | Canto and Newsbeuter are great... different approaches. I like Canto for sheer volume of info onscreen |
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| 09:09.32 | DragonSlay | lasers`, ok |
| 09:10.08 | FunkyBob | ok, so... despite having python 2.6 and 2.7 installed. aptitude refuses to install something that requires <2.7 |
| 09:11.05 | vtts | does it conflict with 2.7? |
| 09:11.27 | warhead | one simple question ... in /etc/fstab i mount network storage //192.168.2.15/data /srv/data cifs 0 0 , and I have image witch also mounting from network storage /srv/data/working.img /media/working ext3 rw,loop,auto 0 0 . Ok, when I reboot my Debian he mount only network storage but not image from /srv/data/working.img but if I maunal write mount /media/working all is ok. How to change order in fstab ? Need first to mount network disk, |
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| 09:14.06 | gnarface | warhead: you should read the manpage for fstab. the question you're asking is so apparent to anyone who has, you will find trouble getting anyone who has to actually tell you |
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| 09:15.36 | FunkyBob | vtts: well, the conflict says it requires py <2.7 |
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| 09:15.45 | gnarface | warhead: i'd be happy to tell you myself, for a fee. but i don't have any way to securely enable payment so you're out of luck |
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| 09:16.04 | FunkyBob | but since it's a python module, it shouldn't care... it should just install under the 2.6 dist-packages |
| 09:16.19 | vtts | FunkyBob, any errors? |
| 09:17.06 | vtts | gnarface, actually it's not that simple |
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| 09:17.46 | vtts | and this is definately not a place to mention fees |
| 09:18.23 | vtts | *definitely |
| 09:19.08 | gnarface | vtts: yes it is, and go fuck yourself |
| 09:19.23 | FunkyBob | other option would be to find a fix for http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655151 |
| 09:19.27 | gnarface | vtts: the man page has his answers. the mentioning of fees was sarcasm, in case you missed it. |
| 09:21.11 | vtts | gnarface, this is a place to provide/receive support from community, not sarcastic comments instead of answers |
| 09:21.16 | tensorpudding | gnarface, answering that way is rude and has no place on this community |
| 09:21.34 | gnarface | lol@rudness has no place in #debian |
| 09:21.36 | gnarface | that'll be the day |
| 09:21.49 | warhead | gnarface: if You can't to help don't spam with comment without point. |
| 09:22.01 | gnarface | warhead: seriously, read the man page its gonna save you a lot of time |
| 09:22.26 | warhead | gnarface: I read and don't find solution for my problem |
| 09:22.32 | jelly-home | warhead: gnarface is right in that the manual specifically says "The order of records in fstab is important because fsck(8), mount(8), and umount(8) sequentially iterate through fstab doing their thing." |
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| 09:23.17 | warhead | I no need order for check disk...need change order of mount disks |
| 09:23.23 | streuner_ | reading man pages doesnt hurd, but spoonfeeding is so easy |
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| 09:23.26 | gnarface | jelly-home: thank you. i'm alright with being wrong on all other points. |
| 09:23.33 | jelly-home | warhead: read that line carefully. |
| 09:23.47 | tensorpudding | it's not just fsck that cares about order, it's mount |
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| 09:24.35 | streuner_ | hm |
| 09:25.03 | warhead | reloading........give me some min to try |
| 09:25.27 | gnarface | wonders if there's documentation available in warhead's native language |
| 09:25.48 | warhead | nop :-) |
| 09:25.55 | gnarface | sorry warhead |
| 09:25.56 | DragonSlay | lasers`, google reader support is available, but i'm not sure how to configure it. |
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| 09:27.09 | gnarface | warhead: debian has several non-english support channels, fyi. there might still be a community for your native locale, even if no documentation to match |
| 09:27.35 | jelly-home | warhead: also read about _netdev option in mount(8) |
| 09:28.25 | lasers` | DragonSlay: I see. Ty. |
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| 09:32.20 | LordTrev | Is there a group that I can add users to that will give them full network control? As in able to edit the files to set up a wireless network and everything? |
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| 09:33.57 | vtts | LordTrev, no, but you could create one with the help of "sudo" |
| 09:34.21 | LordTrev | Okay, well thanks for answering...... |
| 09:34.51 | LordTrev | See if I can manage this, heh |
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| 09:35.40 | nkuttler | LordTrev: i doubt that. maybe if you use network-manager |
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| 09:36.06 | nkuttler | as soon as somebody can run a pre-up script and the like.. |
| 09:36.29 | DragonSlay | is it possible to view tamil in console? |
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| 09:36.46 | LordTrev | nkuttler, nope, it asks for your password when attempting to add a new network |
| 09:36.57 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: as in the font? install whatever you need |
| 09:37.47 | DragonSlay | actually i'm getting some diamond symbol although i can view them in gnome apps |
| 09:38.37 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: which terminal? fileencoding? |
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| 09:40.01 | DragonSlay | nkuttler, in console (ctrl + alt+f2) |
| 09:40.30 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: oh, don't know too much about that |
| 09:40.54 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: anyway, console fonts are different from x fonts. the characters might simply be missing |
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| 09:41.44 | DragonSlay | nkuttler, so should i download console fonts than? |
| 09:41.54 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: yeah |
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| 09:42.39 | gattsu | I have identified a listening TCP port with `netstat -lnt`, but `lsof -i4` does not show any process bound to said port. How else can I find which process relates to the open port(s)? |
| 09:42.51 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: there's also task-tamil |
| 09:43.00 | petemc | gattsu: are you root? |
| 09:43.31 | gattsu | petemc: I'm an idiot. Thanks! |
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| 09:43.48 | petemc | np |
| 09:43.49 | DragonSlay | nkuttler, in repos? |
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| 09:44.06 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: never mind, that only install aspell.. |
| 09:44.43 | DragonSlay | nkuttler, there are some unicode fonts, can i use them? |
| 09:44.51 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: try it |
| 09:45.20 | DragonSlay | nkuttler, where should i install it? |
| 09:45.39 | nkuttler | !in |
| 09:45.39 | dpkg | i guess in is India. For Debian India, see #debian-in |
| 09:45.46 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: i assume that's at oftc |
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| 09:46.56 | DragonSlay | nkuttler, no one in that channel |
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| 09:47.30 | Kakadu | Hi all! On my debian testing QtWebKit crashes sometimes. I've created test app te repeat it. https://github.com/Kakadu/trash-stuff/tree/master/test_webkit Can you test it on your machine? |
| 09:47.36 | nkuttler | DragonSlay: you're on the wrong irc network |
| 09:47.39 | nkuttler | !tell DragonSlay about oftc |
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| 09:51.06 | DragonSlay | nkuttler, ty fo yr help |
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| 10:40.20 | tparcina | I have just installed 6.0.3 netinstall and when I try to connect via SSH I get message - ssh: connect to host xx.xx.xx.xx port 22: Connection refused |
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| 10:41.17 | tparcina | Service ssh status - sshd is running |
| 10:41.23 | tparcina | What could be the problem? |
| 10:41.24 | ChrisH | tparcina checked using ps? |
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| 10:41.39 | ChrisH | checked using lsof -i tcp:22 on the system? |
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| 10:46.57 | Mmike | tparcina, most likely you need to do: apt-get install openssh-server |
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| 10:47.50 | tparcina | Mmike: I have solved the problem. Two computers head the same IP address, and it was not the server that was refusing the connection, but another computer with same IP address. |
| 10:48.01 | tparcina | Mmike: Thanks for trying to help. |
| 10:48.29 | Mmike | eh |
| 10:48.31 | Mmike | gut then :) |
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| 10:51.38 | eni23 | hello at all. i wanna replace some wrt45gl-routers with alix2 machines running debian. does someone knows a complete solution? |
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| 10:55.19 | Whisky | I'm trying to /part |
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| 11:24.51 | user0 | echo |
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| 11:26.57 | eni23 | clear |
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| 11:31.23 | robde | hello, what is the standard user "mail" for? |
| 11:31.44 | nevyn | running the mail daemon |
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| 11:32.12 | robde | hm, i would like to have an email-adress called "mail@mydomain" |
| 11:32.37 | sephii | make an alias? |
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| 11:33.21 | robde | somewhere in the postfix config? |
| 11:33.30 | Vutral | echo mail: your@real.address.com >>/etc/aliases |
| 11:33.33 | colo-work | in /etc/aliases |
| 11:33.53 | colo-work | you must run newaliases afterwards |
| 11:34.12 | robde | and that won't confuse the maildeamon? |
| 11:34.33 | Vutral | or postmap |
| 11:34.47 | xand | note: newaliases does nothing if you use exim. |
| 11:34.53 | simonlnu | you map it to a real address |
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| 11:36.25 | robde | thx |
| 11:37.46 | simonlnu | exim will just re-read the aliases file ;p |
| 11:39.32 | robde | who is postmaster? root? |
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| 11:42.15 | nkuttler | robde: by default, yes |
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| 11:43.24 | dannN | Hi, what must i do after i inserted the /var/lib/mysql folder from an backup to get ispconfig and the other databases work? |
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| 11:44.54 | Sevet | check the dir/file permissions are ok, check my.cnf is correct and start mysqld |
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| 11:47.56 | dannN | should i stop the mysql server when i copy the folder ? |
| 11:48.44 | Ronis_BR | hi fellows, according to this "http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnome-shell.html" what is blocking gnome-shell to reach testing? Only the 10 days? |
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| 11:49.50 | daemonkeeper | Ronis_BR: http://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=gnome-shell |
| 11:50.49 | grass | So, what's the definitive way of swapping ESC and CAPSLOCK in Squeeze? |
| 11:50.55 | Ronis_BR | daemonkeeper: I if it didn't answer my question, since the information is exactly the same as the one I posted before |
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| 11:51.32 | daemonkeeper | Ronis_BR: But these are exactly the excuses "why package X is not in testing yet" |
| 11:51.56 | sephii | grass: use xmodmap |
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| 11:52.12 | Ronis_BR | daemonkeeper: but, IMO, the only excuse is the 10 days, right? |
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| 11:53.13 | daemonkeeper | Yes |
| 11:53.16 | grass | sephii: I am using it with this config http://sprunge.us/OaXL but my CAPS is both CAPS and ESC now :/ |
| 11:53.18 | user0 | Hi, i have to install debian stable (6.0) on a dell poweredge R210 II, while the install process it tell me that i need an non-free driver for ethernet controller: bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-5.0.0.0.j3.fw and i have to put it on a storage device, i've tried but it's not worked, i putted the .deb the entire folder, only de .fw don't know what to do |
| 11:53.32 | daemonkeeper | That's Testing's quarantine criteria. |
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| 11:53.56 | daemonkeeper | !firmware images |
| 11:53.56 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Squeeze are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. http://deb.li/3tGse |
| 11:54.02 | Sevet | dannN: yes, you shouldn't be running mysqld during the copy |
| 11:54.03 | daemonkeeper | This is for you user0 |
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| 11:54.35 | user0 | ty |
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| 11:54.47 | dannN | Sevet: ok, because i tried to copy the ispconfig database and now i can not login to ispconfig |
| 11:55.09 | Ronis_BR | daemonkeeper: thanks :) |
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| 11:57.56 | sakal | hi, have a Debian some like dyndns server? |
| 11:58.49 | ChrisH | sakal, what do you mean? Does dyndns not offer the services you need? |
| 11:59.36 | eni23 | you could try feeedns or one of the houndert others |
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| 11:59.46 | grass | sephii: thanks for the help, but I think I solved it with this .xmodmaprc http://sprunge.us/jFSG :) |
| 11:59.50 | sakal | ChrisH, I want some like own |
| 11:59.59 | sakal | not an dyndns.org |
| 12:00.26 | eni23 | sakal: do you mean with an topleveldomain and dynamic ip? |
| 12:01.12 | sakal | yes |
| 12:01.29 | sakal | I have server with static ip and some servers with dynamic ip |
| 12:01.29 | eni23 | dyndns offers that but not for free |
| 12:01.39 | sakal | I know |
| 12:01.45 | daemonkeeper | It's trivial to achieve. |
| 12:02.04 | eni23 | one server is not enough to run an tl-dns-server. |
| 12:02.12 | daemonkeeper | Set-up a PowerDNS server, make it use a database backend, write a 3 line script. |
| 12:02.13 | daemonkeeper | Or Python. Or Perl. Or Whatever. |
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| 12:05.12 | eni23 | sakal: for dynamic ip's i do it with freedns.afraid.org. its free. but overall its not an really good idea to do this |
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| 12:05.43 | daemonkeeper | Well, if you're lazy you set a CNAME to your dyndns hostname ... |
| 12:05.52 | sakal | eni23, it's not a critical service |
| 12:06.06 | sakal | I just need to use ssh time to time |
| 12:06.06 | warhead | dyndns no more free :-/ |
| 12:06.27 | Sevet | dannN: passwords are in the mysql db, did you copy that too? |
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| 12:07.42 | eni23 | sakal: then really look at freedns. dont know how this is with .com or something but with .ch domains you need at least two different nameservers. |
| 12:08.08 | sakal | :) |
| 12:08.15 | eni23 | set up something like this is not worth for a few domains |
| 12:08.48 | ChrisH | sakal, some NICs do test this. And the Nameserver needs to be in different Networks. |
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| 12:09.50 | sakal | ChrisH, it's not a problem. I have a debain server with static IP and some services, but I have a few servers at another network with dynamic IP |
| 12:11.07 | eni23 | sakal: that will NOT work. you need at least two STATIC ip's in different networks |
| 12:12.11 | DarkUranium | hm |
| 12:12.17 | DarkUranium | who was I talking to yesterday regarding SSH problems? |
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| 12:12.50 | daemonkeeper | That's not true. That's a requirement by some top level zones only. Moreover, you can mostly use DNS servers of your domain registrar. |
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| 12:13.28 | eni23 | daemonkeeper: hm can be yes the registar system i forgot. we dont have something here in switzeland sorry |
| 12:13.34 | daemonkeeper | In fact, ask your registrar about dynamic IP interfaces, hidden primary, slave server, ... |
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| 12:18.32 | fishsponge_ | hey people - "hostname -d" returns my old domainname... how do I change this?? |
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| 12:19.09 | petemc | fishsponge_: looked in /etc/hosts ? |
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| 12:20.05 | eni23 | correct me if im wrong but ip+ is input (230v line) and ip- is the output right? in those 3 secounds before the chip was blew up i got some values yes, but it was like a sine wave.. and yes, there are versions with 30amps and soic (imho this is sick) |
| 12:20.08 | fishsponge_ | oh yeah! |
| 12:20.12 | fishsponge_ | feels stoopid again... |
| 12:20.23 | eni23 | oh sorry wrong chanell |
| 12:21.54 | dannN | how can i reinstall mysqld ? |
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| 12:27.05 | boudiccas | dann sudo apt0get install mysql |
| 12:27.14 | boudiccas | apt-get |
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| 12:32.14 | loop- | should i uninstall kde via apt or aptitude before upgrading to kde 4.8? |
| 12:32.44 | boudiccas | loop-; what does the changelog say? |
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| 12:41.06 | Cain | quota is well supported on ext4 ? |
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| 12:41.52 | skilz | Error reading file : unexpected line 'iface ppp0 ppp' |
| 12:41.56 | skilz | How do I fix this? |
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| 12:46.41 | guardian | i'm surprised, there is no libstdc++6-dev that would install the dev counterpart of libstdc++6 |
| 12:46.43 | guardian | why is it so? |
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| 12:48.16 | robde | hi, i have a vserver and it has two domains: vs3289.myhost.tld and mydomain.tld. right now /etc/hosts contains this auto-generated line: xx.xx.xx.xx vs3289.myhost.tld vs3289 |
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| 12:48.35 | robde | what should I write for mydomain.tld? |
| 12:48.44 | robde | and should I remove the other entry? |
| 12:48.51 | user0 | daemonkeeper: I tried with the net install cd you gived me but i have the same problem |
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| 12:49.46 | daemonkeeper | You didn't use the firmware image then. It contains all firmwares and I used it to install Debian on the very same R210 myself. |
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| 12:50.46 | user0 | i used this one http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/6.0.3/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-6.0.3-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 12:50.50 | user0 | daemonkeeper: |
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| 12:51.18 | lorenzosu | I removed debian-multimedia from /etc/apt/sources.list and did apt-get update but packages still show up in e.g. aptitude search but of course cannot be installed. Any clue? |
| 12:51.26 | daemonkeeper | Are you sure you _booted_ that? ;) |
| 12:52.18 | user0 | i've created an usb stick with unetbootin can retry but don't think it will work more |
| 12:52.28 | aguitel | my monitor is not working right now (keyboard yes) how shutdown pc with keyboard? |
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| 12:53.31 | eni23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:53.57 | aguitel | eni23, x but monitor is blank |
| 12:54.15 | user0 | daemonkeeper: you are using 64 bits too ? |
| 12:54.34 | daemonkeeper | Yes. The firmware image definitively works. |
| 12:55.28 | eni23 | then try to go to a tty (with ctrl, alt and f1) then write your username [enter] password [enter] su - [enter] your root password [enter] poweroff [enter]. good luck with no monitor ;) |
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| 12:57.10 | eni23 | aguitel: or just pull the power cord or press long enough on the power-button (thats the hard way) |
| 12:57.46 | aguitel | eni23, yes i know ,thanks |
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| 13:03.23 | bassliner | so how do i solve updating issues on an old etch machine like this? http://fpaste.org/LFGD/ |
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| 13:06.23 | PaulIIIIIIII | http://www.hot.ee/keber/pilt.JPG |
| 13:06.30 | flypp | bassliner, as you can see in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/, "etch" doesn't exist there |
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| 13:07.12 | bassliner | flypp: how would i got for installing a specific package on a box like this without the need to update it to lenny? |
| 13:07.19 | daedalus11 | bassliner, you have to upgrade to Squeeze |
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| 13:07.54 | petemc | bassliner: you can add archive.debian.org to your sources.list |
| 13:07.57 | daedalus11 | bassliner, why don't you want to update? |
| 13:08.09 | petemc | bassliner: as long as you're happy to ignore the fact that etch will be full of security problems |
| 13:09.02 | daedalus11 | furthermore etch is 5 years old now... |
| 13:09.12 | skilz | will samba allow me to view debian from network neighbourhood? |
| 13:09.34 | flypp | bassliner, if you want to keet it in etch... you could compile a program from source... but it's possible that you can't satisfy dependences. Etch is not even oldstable. There is not support for etch. You should update at least to Lenny (oldstable) |
| 13:09.51 | flypp | *keep |
| 13:10.36 | petemc | flypp: you can install packages using archive.debian.org |
| 13:10.36 | daedalus11 | i agree with flypp ! |
| 13:10.52 | fbs | hi guys |
| 13:10.57 | petemc | !etch sources.list |
| 13:10.57 | dpkg | i guess etch sources.list is "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security etch/updates main contrib non-free". But realise that Etch has not had security support since February 2010 and that you should upgrade to a newer release. Ask me about <etch->lenny>. |
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| 13:12.51 | user0 | daemonkeeper: It don't work :( |
| 13:13.21 | dbtid | greetings; where does one find the info pages for tools like gcc and make? i'm in the synaptic package manager, and searching for make, info, etc, is fruitless. |
| 13:13.24 | daemonkeeper | What shall I tell you? It works fine on each of the ~ 100 Dell servers I used it to install Squeeze so far. |
| 13:13.32 | dbtid | would 'apt-cache search' be better? |
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| 13:14.22 | Gentoo64 | dbtid, gcc --help and man gcc? |
| 13:14.41 | dbtid | Gentoo64: i don't want the man pages, i want the info pages (mostly because i'm looking for something about 'make'). |
| 13:14.57 | dbtid | i need to do a search |
| 13:15.12 | flypp | "aptitude search make | grep doc" ? |
| 13:15.13 | dbtid | it's easier to search the info pages than it is to search the web. |
| 13:15.21 | dbtid | flypp: i'll try |
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| 13:17.49 | dbtid | nope |
| 13:19.01 | flypp | info make just recommends see also GNU Make Manual (man make) |
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| 13:54.46 | Agiofws | hello |
| 13:54.56 | Agiofws | hey guys i can't play a vimeo video it gets kind of stuck |
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| 13:55.32 | Agiofws | i have over 1GB free space on home |
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| 13:55.49 | Agiofws | http://vimeo.com/28992254 |
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| 13:59.48 | skilz | How do I fix this please? http://pastebin.com/JMTwhdeX |
| 13:59.55 | skilz | Happens every time I try to install something |
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| 14:00.56 | jelly | !tell skilz about confmiss |
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| 14:02.00 | dokma | I'm learning a kid that's to work for me how to use Debian, but vi is just too much |
| 14:02.15 | dokma | what would be a good terminal editor for a windows user? |
| 14:03.02 | tvm | mcedit ? nano ? |
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| 14:03.15 | dokma | nano sounds familiar |
| 14:03.18 | dokma | I'll try that |
| 14:04.18 | koisoke | joe? jed? fte? |
| 14:04.21 | Iridos | A kid! Child labour! |
| 14:04.35 | nitzs | I have upgraded to testing, but the kernel was not upgraded to 3.1.0. Is this behavior correct? |
| 14:04.44 | dokma | Iridos: exactly |
| 14:05.10 | dokma | dirt cheap, and they don't ask question. |
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| 14:05.25 | Iridos | :( |
| 14:06.00 | dokma | when I was in his shoes I could've only dreamed of having the type of assisstance he gets |
| 14:06.19 | Guest52447 | Question I have a MAC running parallels with debian installed as a VM. My mac and other computers are connected to a 192.168.x.y network mac is 192.168.0.100 and my other is a .101, my Debian VM has a 10.211.x.y address. I have ssh setup on all 3 computers, I can ssh from my MAC into my VM , from both my VM and Mac to the x.101 computer, but I cannot SSH into my VM from my .101 computer is there anyways I can setup a ssh tunnel |
| 14:06.30 | dokma | I remember downloading Linux onto 25 floppies and trying to install from that |
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| 14:07.03 | Iridos | nitzs, kernels never upgrade by itself, they only upgrade if you have the metapackage like linux-image-2.6 - that depends on the newsest 2.6 kernel and pulls it in |
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| 14:07.37 | Iridos | you even gave him your 25 year old shoes /o\ |
| 14:08.49 | koisoke | Iridos: ? I got upgraded 2.6->3.1 pulling apt-get dist-upgrade on wheezy |
| 14:09.00 | koisoke | without any manual intervention |
| 14:09.37 | Iridos | oh... and linux-image-2.6 also wouldn't go to 3.x what's the correct name for that one |
| 14:09.59 | Iridos | koisoke, you are if you do have the virtual packages whose dependencies pull it in |
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| 14:10.02 | Iridos | you don't if you dont |
| 14:10.31 | koisoke | ah. linux-image-686-pae |
| 14:10.34 | Iridos | linux-image-686 |
| 14:10.38 | Iridos | yeah |
| 14:10.43 | Iridos | one of those :) |
| 14:10.50 | Iridos | judd, versions linux-image-686 |
| 14:10.51 | judd | Package: linux-image-686 on i386 -- lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.32+27~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 2.6.39+35.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.1+41; sid: 3.2+42 |
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| 14:12.06 | Iridos | judd, versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 14:12.06 | nitzs | But isn't the deafult kernel in wheezy/testing the 3.1.0? |
| 14:12.07 | judd | Package: linux-image-2.6-686 on i386 -- lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.32+27~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 2.6.39+35.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.1+41; sid: 3.2+42 |
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| 14:12.41 | Iridos | err, that does depend on 3.x kernels? That's a bit surprising from the name |
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| 14:13.07 | Guest52447 | Question I have a MAC running parallels with ubuntu installed as a VM. My mac and other computers are connected to a 192.168.x.y network mac is 192.168.0.100 and my other is a .101, my ubuntu VM has a 10.211.x.y address. I have ssh setup on all 3 computers, I can ssh from my MAC into my VM , from both my VM and Mac to the x.101 computer, but I cannot SSH into my VM from my .101 computer is there anyways I can setup a ssh tunnel |
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| 14:13.08 | Iridos | or, perhaps doesn't depend, only has that version itself? Still not what I expected |
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| 14:14.08 | Iridos | interesting.... you just asked the same 5 minutes ago, but then it was a debian vm, now it's ubuntu |
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| 14:15.03 | gnarface | Guest52447: not that either parallels or ubuntu are supported here but you probably need to forward a port |
| 14:15.08 | Iridos | and yes... obviously you can make an ssh tunnel and also obviously not to port 22 |
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| 14:15.35 | Iridos | probably would be better to fix the routing, though |
| 14:15.58 | nitzs | Iridos: so what exactly is the behaviour pertaining to the kernel when you do a dist-upgrade? |
| 14:16.33 | Iridos | nitzs, I thought I explained all of it... |
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| 14:17.03 | Iridos | nitzs, the kernels itself have the version in the name, they can by themself never be upgraded (e.g. linux-image-2.6.32-5-686) |
| 14:17.39 | Iridos | nitzs, but there are virtual packages that always depend on the newest kernel (e.g. linux-image-686) and when they upgrade, that dependency also pulls the newer kernel in |
| 14:18.14 | DarkUranium | karlpinc, well, I found out why ssh didn't work on my server |
| 14:18.32 | nitzs | Iridos: yes, but that is what i meant to ask. Why isn't the new package(which has the new kernel) installed when i upgrade? |
| 14:18.41 | DarkUranium | karlpinc, my ISP >_< |
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| 14:19.20 | Iridos | nitzs, because you don't have the virtual package |
| 14:19.49 | nitzs | Iridos: okay. thanks. |
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| 14:21.28 | web416 | is there an irc channel for laptops? |
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| 14:21.38 | web416 | debian on laptops that is |
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| 14:23.18 | Iridos | there's one for arm architecture |
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| 14:23.56 | web416 | no, I'm on amd64 |
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| 14:25.14 | Iridos | then nuffin special about a laptop |
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| 14:25.40 | web416 | suspend and hibernate |
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| 14:47.33 | qdb | hello. i would report bug ... but i feel little imcomfortable ... i have just clicked on video call in vk.com and iceweasel has crashed |
| 14:47.34 | Night_Elf | i all. I have built a system for storage using an HP SmartArray P400 controller. I have built a RAID5 volume with 3 disks, 2TB each, hardware raid. But I think that the i/o is slow, not to say very slow, writes at around 24MB/s and reads around 200MB/s. I do not think this is how it is supposed to be, is it? |
| 14:47.50 | Night_Elf | (Hi all.) |
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| 14:49.10 | qdb | as i heard and little know even simple hdd works slower in linux then in windows |
| 14:50.02 | colo-work | Night_Elf, you'll have to ask the manufacturer of the RAID controller what's going on, I'm afraid. |
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| 14:51.18 | Night_Elf | qdb: colo-work: It's very frustrating. The system had windoze server 2008 and tests with it were way higher. True, it had the drivers installed from the acompanied CD from HP. |
| 14:51.45 | Night_Elf | This install though is a default, with the cciss driver in the kernel. |
| 14:51.58 | colo-work | Night_Elf, what kind of "tests" were you conducting? |
| 14:52.00 | [MSFT]CBranca | p400s are decent but are known for controller degration & failures |
| 14:52.10 | dr_traktor | PHP5 in debian comes with the Suhoshin hardening patch. How do you remove it? |
| 14:52.14 | colo-work | the majority of users don't get their benchmarks right. that's because proper benchmarking is hard. |
| 14:52.40 | [MSFT]CBranca | was it a refurb? |
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| 14:53.30 | Night_Elf | colo-work: now, dd if=/dev/zero of=zer.fil bs=8M count=400. And when it had windoze, the same thing using cygwin. It was more to create an idea. It's not about the benchmarking and which is best. |
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| 14:54.00 | Night_Elf | [MSFT]CBranca: The case was used for years for another role. The P400 and disks are new. |
| 14:54.32 | colo-work | Night_Elf, your filesystem(s), io scheduler, cache flushing policy et al. also (potentially) make a lot of difference |
| 14:55.43 | Night_Elf | colo-work: mm. How can I check those? What can I look at to improve these ? |
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| 14:56.42 | skilz | Hey |
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| 14:57.21 | colo-work | Night_Elf, that's kind of a science of its own. |
| 14:57.27 | skilz | that was really weird... when my server boots up not, I can't login, there is not login prompt, even if I swith tty's "ctrl+alt+F3" |
| 14:57.31 | skilz | wtf |
| 14:57.41 | Kull | skilz: owned |
| 14:57.47 | jhutchins_wk | qdb: How are you judging hard drive speed? |
| 14:57.48 | skilz | but I can ssh in lucky |
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| 14:59.03 | Night_Elf | colo-work: this is what I run. http://pastebin.com/8CXCvU8g |
| 14:59.05 | qdb | jhutchins_wk, i looked drive speed while i copied in total commander in win xp from one hdd to other and to same, while to other it was near 50 mb/s as i remember |
| 14:59.21 | qdb | several years ago |
| 14:59.28 | [MSFT]CBranca | Night_Elf |
| 14:59.40 | [MSFT]CBranca | doh not used to this client |
| 15:00.18 | Night_Elf | [MSFT]CBranca: Sorry, what was that? I don't understand. |
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| 15:00.58 | [MSFT]CBranca | Night_Elf: was a typo. trying this new irc client. i was going to ask if u have the latest firmware from hp? some of the newer revisions fixed disk i/o issues |
| 15:02.26 | Night_Elf | [MSFT]CBranca: yes. I did that at the moment when we got the P400. Took what was latest from the site and flashed the card right at the shop. |
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| 15:16.38 | Posterdati | hi |
| 15:17.06 | Posterdati | are there official kernel 3.0 binary images for squeeze? |
| 15:17.52 | jhutchins_wk | ,kernels |
| 15:17.55 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.2.0-1-686-pae (3.2.1-2); wheezy: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.8-2); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-39squeeze1); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 15:17.59 | DarkUranium | hmm |
| 15:18.07 | DarkUranium | hey, which hosting CP do you folks recommend I use? |
| 15:18.34 | jhutchins_wk | DarkUranium: They've been talking about it on the backports list, and people have said they're out there, but I don't know where and judd doesn't know about them. |
| 15:18.50 | jhutchins_wk | Posterdati: Sorry, that was to you not DarkUranium |
| 15:19.10 | DarkUranium | jhutchins_wk, you fail at tab completion :P |
| 15:19.23 | Posterdati | jhutchins_wk: thanks |
| 15:20.02 | jhutchins_wk | DarkUranium: I fail at initial letter. |
| 15:20.14 | qdb | hello. i would report bug ... but i feel little imcomfortable ... i have just clicked on video call in vk.com and iceweasel has crashed |
| 15:20.18 | DarkUranium | jhutchins_wk, yes, that's implied :P |
| 15:20.19 | Posterdati | so no 3 if I don't want to compile the source... |
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| 15:28.24 | willmore | I have a minimal install debian system running a firewall. rsyslog directs to a remote server. I'm trying to isolate anything that's writing to the filesystem as it's a CF card and I'd like to make it live as long as possible. I've turned on block_dump and I'm seeing stuff show up in the syslog capture on the remote server. I'm having issues deciphering some of it. Can I pastebin it and have someone take a look at it? |
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| 15:29.03 | willmore | FWIW, http://fpaste.org/BAwO/ |
| 15:29.12 | willmore | The fs is mounted noatime and is ext3. |
| 15:29.18 | web416 | I could use some trouble shooting advice. I'm not sure whether to forge ahead and try stuff without really knowing what is going on, or try to find better documentation. I want to get my new laptop to suspend when I shut the lid. Web searching "debian laptop suspend" outdated docs with a wide variety of solutions. Debian wiki and reference were silent re squeeze. Little dizzy pondering what to do with swsusp, uswsusp, suspend2, hi |
| 15:29.30 | krion | willmore: you could use sort of ramfs or something like that |
| 15:29.43 | krion | for all /var for exemple, with that nothing would be write on the cf |
| 15:29.48 | krion | that's what we do here |
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| 15:30.07 | krion | willmore: no idea what's that |
| 15:30.07 | willmore | krion, that is an option. I'm currently curious *what* is writing to see if raming /var will fix it. |
| 15:30.24 | willmore | So far, it looks like the firewall script keeps getting its inode dirtied for some reason. |
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| 15:31.21 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone how do I reinstall networkmanager prerequsits? |
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| 15:33.12 | Iridos | willmore, well... you're using a journaling filesystem... that causes writes of course |
| 15:33.43 | THE_GFR|WORK | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 15:33.43 | THE_GFR|WORK | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.43 | THE_GFR|WORK | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.43 | THE_GFR|WORK | E: Broken packages |
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| 15:33.49 | Iridos | !next |
| 15:33.49 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 15:33.58 | THE_GFR|WORK | sorry |
| 15:34.17 | willmore | Iridos, writes and such and dirty inodes should, but with noatime on the mount and no real data writes, the journal should't be doing much, right, Iridos? |
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| 15:34.55 | jhutchins_wk | willmore: Please be sure to document your work and publish it somewhere. |
| 15:35.14 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone I needed to reinstall dbus-x11 so I removed it without realizing it would remove 90% of the stuff on my system, now I have reinstalled most, but I get NetworkManager errors because it can't find some prerequsits, ideas? |
| 15:35.27 | willmore | jhutchins_wk, yeah, not a bad idea. |
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| 15:35.50 | willmore | This "rs:main Q:Reg(2771): dirtied inode 116233 (arno-iptables-firewall) on sda2" seems to be the culprit--it's causing journal writes, etc. |
| 15:36.02 | willmore | I don't know how to parse that. |
| 15:36.24 | jhutchins_wk | willmore: I think you're the third person this week who's working on building their own flash installation and tuning it to optimize disk usage for flash. |
| 15:37.08 | willmore | jhutchins_wk, no kidding? Wow, busy week. :) I used to use a usb memory stick on this box (firewall), but those are somewhat *cough* unreliable. |
| 15:37.26 | willmore | It croaked and I rebuilt it from a backup image I had taken when I first created it. |
| 15:38.01 | willmore | This time, I'm making an effort to try to make the flash live a bit longer. CF should be more durable to start with, but no reason to be mean to it for no purpose. |
| 15:38.06 | Iridos | willmore, I just meant that are writes that happen often and... always in the same region?... on top of the writes you have |
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| 15:38.27 | jhutchins_wk | willmore: Anything you have stored only on CF you do not have a permanent copy of. |
| 15:38.34 | willmore | Iridos, yep, those, unless the CF card does good leveling, are a real problem--and they appear to be what I'm seeing. |
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| 15:38.52 | blink | i would like to disable the option "-nolisten tcp" from my X server; I am currently using rc.local to startx as a normal user, then using that user's .xinitrc to start openbox. I've tried a few things and most recommendations are to use a login manager to disable it... what are my options? |
| 15:39.01 | willmore | jhutchins_wk, Once it gets stable, I make an image of it so I can fix it when the media dies. |
| 15:39.13 | jhutchins_wk | willmore: I know there are various projects where they've optimized an OS installation for flash, but without digging into them you don't know how well they've actually done. |
| 15:39.24 | willmore | quite true. |
| 15:39.25 | jhutchins_wk | willmore: smart. |
| 15:39.48 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: How could you remove it without realizing that other stuff would be removed, and to address your question, how is it that network manager did not also get removed if it depends on removed things? |
| 15:39.53 | jhutchins_wk | !xauth |
| 15:39.53 | dpkg | somebody said xauth was the mechanism for sharing around authorisation for clients to connect to your X server. Ask me about <mit-magic-cookie> for more information. The xauth program was in the xbase-clients package (sarge and etch), now in the xauth package from lenny onwards. See also http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html or ask me about <sshx>. |
| 15:39.55 | willmore | This isn't my first time around the block, jhutchins_wk. ;) |
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| 15:41.10 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: it was reinstalled but it has errors |
| 15:41.11 | blink | I know it's defined in |
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| 15:41.14 | blink | /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
| 15:41.40 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: how do I reinstall it's prerequsits so it works? it comes up with an error about that |
| 15:41.52 | Iridos | web416, I think adjusting your search to http://www.google.com/search?q=pm-suspend+laptop-lid would be useful |
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| 15:42.19 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: because I didn't know what dbus-x11 was or did, since I just needed to reinstall it, because it's kind of broken but, not remove it |
| 15:42.55 | blink | nvm, ~/.xserverrc |
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| 15:43.15 | web416 | iridos: thx, I'll have a look |
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| 15:43.23 | Iridos | web416, like... perhaps https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acpid#Example_Events |
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| 15:43.35 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: I'm trying to think what you could be doing to break things so badly so quickly. The kind of problems you're having should simply not happen, assuming you're using the debian repos and not doing crazy things like mixing releases. |
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| 15:44.40 | Iridos | web416, and from that it seems you want acpid - possibly something useful in /usr/share/doc/acpid/README.Debian and /usr/share/doc/acpid/examples/ |
| 15:44.47 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: (And the question also arises of how you could know you needed to reinstall debus-x11 if you didn't know what it did. But I'm not all that interested in the answer.) |
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| 15:45.57 | web416 | iridos: Great! Wow, thanks, I can't keep up to you but I'm looking through this stuff |
| 15:46.35 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: I'm just interested in fixing the issue at hand |
| 15:47.17 | krish | hi all, can I just unarchive a deb, and archive it back with a new name |
| 15:47.22 | krish | will that deb work? |
| 15:47.50 | krish | compiled a deb from source and now there is a change of name required |
| 15:48.01 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: Then you'll probably need to tell the channel things like what you're typing, what the exact output was, what behaivor you expected, and what happened instead. That's much more efficient than making people drag the info out of you. Without specifics people can only guess. |
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| 15:48.57 | Lars_G | Is there a channel for dev help? |
| 15:48.59 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: all I get at random times is a popup error in gnome that indicates NetworkManager can't find prerequsits it needs |
| 15:49.25 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: And if we knew how it is you broke it as well we'd be better positioned to help you fix it. |
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| 15:49.51 | themill | Lars_G: that probably depends on what you mean by "dev help" |
| 15:50.11 | Iridos | THE_GFR|WORK, pastebin the output of apt-cache policy |
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| 15:50.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | sorry everyone it's the NetworkManager applet cannot find some required resources |
| 15:50.43 | Lars_G | themill: some .deb and debconf questions |
| 15:51.00 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: You might be able to get more info if you start network manager from the command line. (I don't use network manager, but I hear it tends to cause more trouble than it's worth because it bypasses /etc/network/interfaces. YMMV |
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| 15:51.17 | THE_GFR|WORK | oh |
| 15:51.18 | themill | Lars_G: you can ask questions here and will probably get answers; you might do better in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 15:51.18 | Iridos | krish, we don't know if YOU can do that :) ... or.. depending on you plan to do that it would "work", but not the way you expected |
| 15:51.34 | willmore | I think I'm going to turn journaling off and see if that makes the culprits easier to see. |
| 15:51.51 | themill | Lars_G: note that #d-mentors is mainly aimed at helping people learn packaging skills to get their packages into the debian archive. |
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| 15:52.00 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: how do I reinstall the applet to get the error to go away? |
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| 15:52.38 | krish | Iridos: whats the best way to build a package deb and change its name ? |
| 15:52.39 | karlpinc | THE_GFR|WORK: I'd start by answering Iridos question since he seems to be willing to help. |
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| 15:53.06 | krish | Iridos: im trying to repackage zabbix server of which the source is available but deb isnt available |
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| 15:53.18 | ratatata | nu |
| 15:53.30 | krish | just thought and updated deb would be good for people |
| 15:53.47 | THE_GFR|WORK | karlpinc: I don't know how to do what he/she asked |
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| 15:54.34 | DesertEgl | help! |
| 15:54.43 | willmore | looks like there's no way to turn journaling off for a mounted FS. |
| 15:54.44 | Lars_G | themill: I hope they don't mind helping though |
| 15:54.51 | Iridos | krish, there's zabbix-server-mysql / zabbix-server-pgsql - what do you need that's not in those packages? And I dont see how you have a deb to unpack if now you say you don't have one |
| 15:55.01 | THE_GFR|WORK | Iridos: how do I do that? |
| 15:55.21 | krish | Iridos: they are 1.4.6 in deb repos |
| 15:55.31 | krish | Iridos: latest out is 1.8.10 |
| 15:55.36 | Iridos | karlpinc, I thought it's moot now anyway and he found whatever it's looking for? |
| 15:55.38 | krish | so i built 1.8.10 |
| 15:55.48 | Iridos | judd, versions zabbix-server-mysql |
| 15:55.48 | krish | but the package name are not as per debian spec |
| 15:55.49 | judd | Package: zabbix-server-mysql on i386 -- lenny: 1:1.4.6-1; lenny-backports: 1:1.8.2-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1:1.8.2-1squeeze2; sid: 1:1.8.9-1; wheezy: 1:1.8.9-1 |
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| 15:56.10 | THE_GFR|WORK | http://pastebin.com/VGshKciV |
| 15:56.13 | krish | judd: sorry forgot to mention - im building debs for lenny |
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| 15:56.58 | Iridos | krish, well... there's 1.8.9 in wheezy/sid - how about compiling that package for squeeze? |
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| 15:57.18 | krish | Iridos: yeah both squeeze and lenny |
| 15:57.23 | Iridos | krish, judd is a bot :) |
| 15:57.27 | krish | hehe |
| 15:57.40 | DesertEgl | how i get out of a virtual console during a netinstall (i had to check some errors) |
| 15:57.41 | krish | i got them compiled and tested for both squeeze and lenny |
| 15:57.46 | Iridos | and support for lenny runs out in a couple of days |
| 15:57.50 | krish | just naming convention are not up to mark |
| 15:58.08 | krish | yeah true that.. but ive done already.. anyway i need the naming thing for squeeze too |
| 15:58.15 | Iridos | dpkg, tell krish about ssb |
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| 15:58.43 | Iridos | if you can fulfill the build dependencies, that's the best/easiest way (taking the source package from wheezy) |
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| 15:59.06 | willmore | he he, looks like the only way to turn off journaling is to convert the FS to ext2. Doing that in place on a live system is not possible. |
| 15:59.23 | krish | wheezy is old as well |
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| 15:59.27 | krish | 1.8.10 is latest |
| 15:59.35 | Iridos | willmore, I thought you can just mount any ext3 as ext2 |
| 15:59.39 | willmore | Guess I'll down the machine, pull the CF card, manipulate the FS with my laptop and start it back up. Hmm, the initrd will still be thinking it's ext3, though. *sigh*. |
| 15:59.54 | THE_GFR|WORK | http://pastebin.com/VGshKciV |
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| 16:00.03 | willmore | Iridos, you may be able to, but the initrd will still try to mount it ext3 until I tell it otherwise. |
| 16:00.29 | willmore | So, if I convert the FS to ext2, the initrd will mount it ext3 and convert i right back. grrrr... |
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| 16:01.08 | Iridos | THE_GFR|WORK, you have sources for lenny and squeeze. what of both is the system supposed to be |
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| 16:01.46 | willmore | in a completely sideways question, is there a quick command to say 'what time would it be in X minutes'? I'm staring at my /proc/mdstat and that time remaining would be much more useful as an ETA. |
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| 16:02.11 | Iridos | willmore, I meant so you don't need to convert anything, just make the system mount as ext2, not ext3 (if things haven't changed since last I had a look) |
| 16:02.29 | Sevet | hi, how can i enable ksm? 'sysctl kernel.mm.ksm.run=1' gives me 'error: "kernel.mm.ksm.run" is an unknown key' (squeeze) |
| 16:02.33 | Iridos | and afair the journal then just appears as some dot-files on ext2 |
| 16:02.35 | THE_GFR|WORK | Iridos: just squeeze, I don't know about the others |
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| 16:03.03 | THE_GFR|WORK | I think everything is working again |
| 16:03.04 | karlpinc | willmore: date --date="now + 5 mintues" |
| 16:03.09 | willmore | Iridos, there should still be a journal inode. Will ext2 ignore it? |
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| 16:03.50 | Iridos | as I said... I thought that appears as a regular file... .journal or something in ext2 |
| 16:03.52 | willmore | karlpinc, not working. |
| 16:04.30 | willmore | Iridos, then the trick is to change my initrd. That's much easier, but still a pita. I think I'll change it in the /etc/fstab and rerun the mkinitrd (or whatever is in vogue these days in squeeze). |
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| 16:05.32 | willmore | karlpinc, "date --date=+5minutes" worked. |
| 16:05.38 | willmore | Thanks for the tip. |
| 16:05.45 | Iridos | THE_GFR|WORK, well, try to make sure. as an end-goal, you should comment out/remove all lines containing "lenny" from /etc/apt/sources.list ; and aptitude -f install should do nothing |
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| 16:06.22 | karlpinc | willmore: Probably because I mis-spelled mintues. |
| 16:07.34 | willmore | karlpinc, bwaha ha ha... :) Didn't notice that either. |
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| 16:11.28 | willmore | "update-initramfs -k all -u" can it really be that simple to update all of my initrds? Cool. |
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| 16:12.38 | mezgani | Hey |
| 16:12.45 | ksuhku | o hai |
| 16:12.53 | mezgani | is there a procedure to detect hardware RAID on a machine |
| 16:13.03 | mezgani | without rebooting |
| 16:13.31 | willmore | rebooted in under 30 seconds. Now that's the fun of a minimal install and a flash boot media. :) |
| 16:13.57 | willmore | mezgani, you might need to be more specific about what kind of hardware raid you're talking about. |
| 16:14.04 | rudi_s | Hi. I have a directory full of *.deb files. Is there a simple way/tool to remove all old versions of each .deb but leave the current version? Thanks. |
| 16:14.15 | mezgani | willmore: i mean i see many disks |
| 16:14.41 | mezgani | willmore: when i do lshw, but when i do a df -h i see only sda and sdb |
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| 16:15.03 | willmore | mezgani, you have some kind of HW raid card? |
| 16:15.30 | mezgani | willmore: i dont really know this, the server is set up far from me |
| 16:16.26 | willmore | mezgani, lspci will tell you what cards you have. Do you see anything that looks like a raid card there? |
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| 16:16.39 | willmore | brb, gotta reboot the firewall again. |
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| 16:18.01 | mezgani | willmore: correct, isee that i have an Adaptec AAC-RAID |
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| 16:18.45 | mezgani | willmore: i mean which RAID that combine my disks |
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| 16:19.13 | karlpinc | mezgani: (FWIW, unless you've a spare controller card around, or know you can quickly get one that's compatible, you might consider using software raid instead.) |
| 16:19.45 | mezgani | karlpinc: FWIW what is it ? |
| 16:19.47 | karlpinc | mezgani: You usually configure those hardware raid cards at boot time. |
| 16:20.08 | mezgani | karlpinc: yes, is there any way to know this from a shell |
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| 16:20.18 | karlpinc | mezgani: for what it's worth |
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| 16:20.32 | mezgani | karlpinc: may be there area tool like ipmi ? for such use ? |
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| 16:22.29 | karlpinc | mezgani: I don't know. Conceivably dmidecode |
| 16:22.30 | erikandre | web interface for squid and privoxy (that allow to set a account) so people that gonna surf need a username and password. (so its possible to set access time from 08:00 to 16:00) each day? |
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| 16:23.04 | willmore | C |
| 16:23.06 | willmore | And back. |
| 16:23.48 | simon_clark | anyone run into this error while installing a package? |
| 16:23.49 | simon_clark | dpkg: error processing libc6-udeb_2.13-24_amd64.udeb (--install): |
| 16:23.49 | simon_clark | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.49 | dpkg | simon_clark: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 16:24.28 | willmore | Successfully converted an ext3 to ext2. Iridos, turns you you really do have to remove the journal bit. Just trying to mount it ext2 doesn't do it. It silently uses the journal still. |
| 16:24.39 | willmore | Maybe an old system that doesn't understand ext3 will do what you were thinking? |
| 16:24.43 | erikandre | why convert from ext3 to ext2 |
| 16:24.58 | Iridos | hm, ok... as I said, haven't played with ext2/3 for a while |
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| 16:25.02 | willmore | erikandre, trying to diagnose writes to a CF card in an embedded system. |
| 16:25.17 | erikandre | i see. |
| 16:25.19 | Iridos | perhaps I'll try myself on an usb-stick... hard to believe it changed so much |
| 16:25.36 | willmore | erikandre, the journal writes were just making it hard to see who was doing the real damage. |
| 16:25.49 | willmore | Turns out it looks much like before--just without the journal writes. *sigh* |
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| 16:26.23 | simon_clark | wow, the dpkg bot is not very helpful |
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| 16:27.04 | mastro | where is it the swftool package? |
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| 16:27.50 | willmore | got it! found the inode where the writes were going. They're going to the log file for the firewall script. Now, to redirect those to the syslog where they belong so rsyslog can forward them over the network. |
| 16:27.52 | lelo | if I create an image from a disk using, lets say, ddrescue, can I run it as a VM on kvm later on? |
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| 16:28.08 | willmore | Thank you /proc/sys/vm/block_dump |
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| 16:30.56 | takahiro | hi, after i instlaled my new kernel and rebooted, it still loads my old kernel i think - any ideas why? i used make-kpkg then dpkg -i |
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| 16:32.43 | themill | simon_clark: actually, dpkg's response is exactly correct. Please pastebin the command you gave and the entire error. |
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| 16:33.10 | themill | simon_clark: (also, why on earth are you trying to install a .udeb on a normal system?) |
| 16:35.25 | simon_clark | themill, a page on resolving the issue told me to |
| 16:35.35 | simon_clark | themill, and I'm a bit of a bumbling idiot |
| 16:35.46 | daemonkeeper | Did it have "ubuntu" somewhere in the URL? |
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| 16:35.53 | themill | please try to be a bit more precise... what issue? what page? |
| 16:36.19 | simon_clark | I got the package from here |
| 16:36.42 | simon_clark | my root is issue is apt-get: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 |
| 16:36.50 | daemonkeeper | oO |
| 16:37.08 | daemonkeeper | Did you install random out of tree packages from other distributions? |
| 16:37.24 | nio | hello all i have just installed debian lenny when i am trying to install package using apt-get it is not working. i had earlier used ubuntu but it don't have such problem such |
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| 16:38.44 | themill | simon_clark: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy libc6 libstdc++6 dpkg apt" for us? Any other information you can provide on how you got your machine into this state would be very handy. |
| 16:38.50 | simon_clark | daemonkeeper Not that I know of. I'd not touched the machine in months. It went down for a restart, and came back with this |
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| 16:40.03 | takahiro | hmm i manually updated the vmlinuz symlink to point to the new kernel and it seems to work |
| 16:40.49 | simon_clark | themill - http://pastebin.com/NgVKg7Aj |
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| 16:41.11 | Daniel2342 | Hey mates, I cannot install mysql-server on squeeze because of unmet dependencies. http://pastebin.com/aMazKR2V Would anyone help me please? |
| 16:41.14 | themill | egads... |
| 16:41.23 | simon_clark | :) |
| 16:41.28 | simon_clark | that's not good |
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| 16:41.59 | daemonkeeper | Daniel2342: Do you have any MySQL related package on hold? Or from another branch? |
| 16:42.16 | daemonkeeper | Try apt-get install mysql-server-5.1. It will tell you about conflicts. |
| 16:42.26 | themill | Daniel2342: (1) use aptitude not apt-get as it is smarter for this and will give better error messages if nothing else. (2) if that fails, please pastebin "apt-cache policy; aptitude versions ~nmysql-server" |
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| 16:42.42 | Whisky_ | Hello |
| 16:42.58 | themill | simon_clark: are you trying to run wheezy on some sort of VPS with a xen or vz kernel? |
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| 16:43.47 | Whisky_ | can anyone tell me how to get my Geforce Go 7400 on my HP DV6000 working on Debian's latest stable release? I downloaded the driver from NVidia's site but ended up with a black screen and had to uninstall. |
| 16:43.54 | Daniel2342 | daemonkeeper: in fact I do, but did not check for that. was isntalled with cherokee from unstable. libmysqlclient16 and mysql-common... |
| 16:44.11 | daemonkeeper | There you have your answer. |
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| 16:44.18 | Daniel2342 | :) |
| 16:44.24 | Daniel2342 | thx |
| 16:44.25 | simon_clark | themill, no, it's running lenny on a slicehost box, Originally etch, did a remote update to lenny a year or two ago |
| 16:44.38 | Daniel2342 | themill: thanks. can I mix aptitude and apt-get? I used to do everything with apt-get. is it safe to switch over? |
| 16:44.44 | daemonkeeper | Yes |
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| 16:45.01 | takahiro | when i plug in my usb modem, i get an error: beceem Unable to Open File /lib/firmware/macxvi.cfg, err -2 beceemInitCardAndDownloadFirmware failed - any idea why? |
| 16:45.02 | simon_clark | themill, It's been chugging along largely unmolested since then |
| 16:45.15 | jhutchins_wk | nio: What package are you trying to install, what command are you using (in full) and what does it return? |
| 16:45.38 | themill | simon_clark: yeah, but your libc is now from wheezy. Do you know what kernel you're running on? |
| 16:45.40 | jhutchins_wk | takahiro: Possibly you have not installed the firmware for the modem. |
| 16:45.48 | nio | jhutchins_wk rdesktop xchat |
| 16:45.56 | takahiro | what's a firmware? |
| 16:46.03 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions rdesktop |
| 16:46.04 | judd | Package: rdesktop on i386 -- lenny: 1.6.0-2; squeeze: 1.6.0-3; wheezy: 1.7.0-1; sid: 1.7.0-2 |
| 16:46.14 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions xchat |
| 16:46.15 | judd | Package: xchat on i386 -- lenny: 2.8.6-2.1; squeeze: 2.8.8-3; sid: 2.8.8-3.1+b1; wheezy: 2.8.8-3.1+b1 |
| 16:46.29 | jhutchins_wk | nio: Looks like you need to answer the other two questions. |
| 16:46.30 | themill | Daniel2342: just keep an eye on aptitude being overly helpful in removing what it thinks are unneeded packages -- apt-get just tells you that you should do it but aptitude will just get on and remove them which might be a shock if you don't read what it's planning to do. |
| 16:46.59 | jhutchins_wk | !tell takahiro about firmware |
| 16:47.02 | Daniel2342 | themill: lol alright and thanks for the hint |
| 16:47.15 | Ticho | !tell ticho about dvd playback |
| 16:47.47 | simon_clark | themill: oh deaer, now 'uname -a' returns 'FATAL: kernel too old' |
| 16:48.05 | themill | yeah, that was why I was wondering if you knew what it was off the top of your head |
| 16:48.12 | nio | jhutchins_wk well rdesktop 1.6 but i don't think i have to think what version i am trying to install as aptitude install it by itself and only thing i have to update the source.list file |
| 16:48.43 | jhutchins_wk | nio: What command are you using (in full) and what does it return? |
| 16:48.51 | Whisky_ | anyone? :( |
| 16:48.52 | Whisky_ | can anyone tell me how to get my Geforce Go 7400 on my HP DV6000 working on Debian's latest stable release? I downloaded the driver from NVidia's site but ended up with a black screen and had to uninstall. |
| 16:48.59 | themill | simon_clark: restoring this from backup is going to be the best option. |
| 16:49.02 | nio | apt-get install rdesktop and apt-get install xchat |
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| 16:49.25 | simon_clark | I'll try and get it back to the state before I messed with it, then come back |
| 16:49.30 | jhutchins_wk | nio: Now the thrid question, What does it return? |
| 16:49.45 | jhutchins_wk | reminds self not to stack questions. |
| 16:50.02 | themill | jhutchins_wk.pop() |
| 16:50.03 | jhutchins_wk | !tell nio about sources.list |
| 16:50.05 | nio | jhutchins_wk The following packages have been kept back:n bind9-host dnsutils libbind9-50 libisccc50 libisccfg50 liblwres50n0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.ndebian:/home/nio# apt-get install rdesktopnReading package lists... DonenBuilding dependency tree nReading state information... DonenE: Couldn't find package rdesktop |
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| 16:50.48 | simon_clark | themill, the slicehost control panel says I'm on 2.6.18 and will let me update it from there. Is that worth a try? |
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| 16:51.16 | jhutchins_wk | nio: Do you need to update your sources.list so you have a network source? |
| 16:51.37 | themill | I can't imagine that's going to work... but if you can get it to something > 2.6.22 (I think that's what wheezy's libc6 needs) then it might work. Or just restore from snapshot... |
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| 16:52.19 | nio | yes give me the source list i am getting confused right now which source list will give me the stable packages |
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| 16:52.35 | simon_clark | themill, closest is 2.6.24-23.48 |
| 16:52.39 | Xxaxx | hello, I have a problem here. Two servers(the same hardware), both with raid1, one with ext3 another with ext4 and ext4 almost two times slower at writes with big cpu load(md stuff) |
| 16:53.12 | themill | simon_clark: you can try that. I doubt it will be able to unpack it and install it. I also don't really like your chances of unmixing a lenny/wheezy mix anyway |
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| 16:53.39 | takahiro | if there's no firmware for my modem, does that mean i can't use it with debian? |
| 16:53.42 | simon_clark | I'll restore from backup, before I tried the wheezy package |
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| 16:54.02 | nio | thats my changed sourcelist right now http://pastebin.com/MtCCyE3R |
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| 16:54.11 | themill | simon_clark: yeah. Then let's try to work out what state your machine is in and try to fix the problem that you've got. |
| 16:54.38 | mgodzilla | hello. |
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| 16:55.26 | GNU\colossus | it's kinda sad that icedove doesn't receive the same amount of love that iceweasel does at mozilla.debian.net |
| 16:56.01 | themill | GNU\colossus: t'bird doesn't receive as much love as firefox at mozilla.com either... |
| 16:56.03 | nio | jhutchins_wk i think i got the solution now i forgot to run the command aptitude update |
| 16:56.11 | GNU\colossus | themill, that's very true. |
| 16:56.14 | Whisky_ | can anyone tell me how to get my Geforce Go 7400 on my HP DV6000 working on Debian's latest stable release? I downloaded the driver from NVidia's site but ended up with a black screen and had to uninstall. |
| 16:56.15 | mgodzilla | i can't seem to run updates on my debian squeeze LAMP - not from the gui anyway. |
| 16:56.26 | nio | after changing the sourcelist file |
| 16:56.57 | GNU\colossus | themill, I'm bitching around because there is no icedove release that works with both enigmail and a icedove-to-tray-addon that fits my needs. |
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| 16:57.21 | nio | jhutchins_wk are you technical enoufgh to solve my some problem |
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| 16:58.12 | StrangeCharm | In principle, is it possible to switch between Ubuntu and Debian just by changing sources.list and doing a dist-upgrade? |
| 16:58.17 | themill | no |
| 16:58.51 | jhutchins_wk | Is lenny-proposed-updates still valid? |
| 16:58.57 | themill | jhutchins_wk: sure |
| 16:59.01 | mgodzilla | apt-get updates is the same thing? |
| 16:59.13 | mgodzilla | i still get pending updates from the gui 'alarm'... |
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| 17:00.22 | jhutchins_wk | nio: Got it working now? |
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| 17:00.36 | Daniel2342 | aptitude solved the mismatches! :) |
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| 17:01.22 | themill | jhutchins_wk: "select count(*) from packages where release = 'lenny-proposed-updates';" -> 2954. |
| 17:01.49 | nio | jhutchins_wk there is a problem |
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| 17:02.21 | nio | W: GPG error: http://www.lamaresh.net lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 905C75258D4B24D2nW: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org oldstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907nW: GPG error: http://dl.google.com stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be ve |
| 17:02.39 | jhutchins_wk | themill: What program? |
| 17:03.12 | themill | jhutchins_wk: postgresql |
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| 17:03.52 | jhutchins_wk | nio: Line 22 of your post. |
| 17:04.01 | jhutchins_wk | nio: Line 22 of your pastebin. |
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| 17:09.27 | meta-coder | This problem has returned again! "[drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung" http://pastebin.com/mCD3eF81 |
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| 17:09.50 | meta-coder | Why is my GPU hanging!? |
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| 17:11.15 | bluesceada | hmm the new pm utils in testing somehow broke suspend |
| 17:11.16 | bluesceada | nothing happening really, screen gets locked and wlan reassociates.. |
| 17:11.16 | bluesceada | echo mem > /sys/power/state works of course.. |
| 17:11.16 | bluesceada | no idea which log files to look at, seems all normal :S |
| 17:11.16 | GNU\colossus | meta-coder, #intel-gfx might be able to help. |
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| 17:11.24 | meta-coder | I am on Squeeze stable 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 17:11.29 | bluesceada | hmm the new pm utils in testing somehow broke suspend |
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| 17:11.35 | bluesceada | nothing happening really, screen gets locked and wlan reassociates.. |
| 17:11.39 | bluesceada | echo mem > /sys/power/state works of course.. |
| 17:11.40 | GNU\colossus | meta-coder, using the backports kernel and Xorg stack will probably work wonders. |
| 17:11.41 | takahiro | any tips for me? i can't seem to get my modem to work http://dpaste.org/yQdOq/ |
| 17:11.42 | bluesceada | no idea which log files to look at, seems all normal :S |
| 17:11.51 | bluesceada | anyone has a clue? |
| 17:12.05 | bluesceada | maybe i should just downgrade pm-utils to one earlier version :S |
| 17:12.45 | Whisky_ | can anyone tell me how to get my Geforce Go 7400 on my HP DV6000 working on Debian's latest stable release? I downloaded the driver from NVidia's site but ended up with a black screen and had to uninstall. |
| 17:13.18 | bluesceada | no idea, try nouveau maybe |
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| 17:14.09 | bluesceada | it's sad how bad vendor support is for nvidia... |
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| 17:14.40 | bluesceada | for deskop systems it's okay but all the power saving features are not really stable for notebooks afaik |
| 17:15.05 | bluesceada | at least i know some people that have suspend to ram problems and not so nice battery runtime |
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| 17:15.33 | patricx | hi |
| 17:16.33 | patricx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:16.59 | bluesceada | patricx: eh what is your question exactly? |
| 17:17.11 | patricx | student |
| 17:17.15 | bluesceada | ? |
| 17:17.41 | patricx | envolved in stem administratio! |
| 17:17.52 | themill | dpkg: tell patricx about install debain |
| 17:17.55 | themill | dpkg: tell patricx about install debian |
| 17:18.05 | patricx | envolved in system administration |
| 17:18.05 | bluesceada | ubuntu is a debian-based distribution that uses debian as the base and then kind of makes it more graphical from the start |
| 17:18.15 | bluesceada | and you probably dont speak english very well ... |
| 17:18.24 | patricx | yes |
| 17:18.32 | bluesceada | patricx: tu parles francais? sprichst du deutsch? you dont seem to speak english very good .. |
| 17:18.34 | patricx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:18.45 | patricx | je parle français |
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| 17:19.09 | bluesceada | okay .. je just parle a petite peu... |
| 17:19.20 | patricx | ok |
| 17:19.49 | patricx | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.10 | mgodzilla | running apt-get updates?same as running it from the gui menus? |
| 17:20.14 | bluesceada | ne quittez pas .. |
| 17:20.17 | themill | patricx: would you be happier in #debian-fr? |
| 17:20.29 | patricx | ok |
| 17:20.32 | bluesceada | ah that is what i was looking after .. something like that.. |
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| 17:21.01 | patricx | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.03 | jhutchins_wk | !fr |
| 17:22.03 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 17:22.05 | bluesceada | patricx: mais, quand tu cherche avec quelque chose plus graphique ... peut etre ubuntu, je ne sait quelque different .. |
| 17:22.26 | jhutchins_wk | patricx: Debian squeeze (stable). Most people use the netinstall. |
| 17:22.36 | sKeiths | how do i install includes |
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| 17:23.08 | jhutchins_wk | sKeiths: includes? |
| 17:23.10 | patricx | debian squeeze has a GUI? |
| 17:23.19 | jhutchins_wk | patricx: Yes. |
| 17:23.34 | sKeiths | to populate /usr/src/linux/include |
| 17:23.36 | jhutchins_wk | patricx: Almost all Linux distributions have one or can have one installed. |
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| 17:24.17 | valdyn | sKeiths: you dont really want to populate that |
| 17:24.26 | patricx | ok what does all these ( amd64 armel kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc sparc) means? |
| 17:24.27 | jhutchins_wk | sKeiths: We infer that you are trying to rebuild or compile something. Depending on what you are tryign to do there are different methods, but the source code package should contain what's necessary. |
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| 17:24.36 | valdyn | sKeiths: that location is outdated, but might still exist for legacy reasons |
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| 17:24.38 | patricx | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.51 | valdyn | sKeiths: "apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" |
| 17:24.58 | jhutchins_wk | patricx: Those are hardware "architectures" or processors. i386 is probably what you want. |
| 17:25.06 | bluesceada | but anyone can answer my question .. what could be the problem with the new pm-utils in testing, or how can i debug it? since i updated them, suspend doesnt work...(only wlan and lan get deactivated and activated again, no messages about any error) |
| 17:25.11 | jhutchins_wk | patricx: Unless you have unusal hardware. |
| 17:25.56 | jhutchins_wk | bluesceada: You may find someone who knows in #debian-next on oftc.net, but be sure to specify what hardware you're ruinning on. |
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| 17:26.59 | patricx | if i choose a net install it means my compter need need to be connected to Internet during the installation? |
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| 17:27.41 | valdyn | patricx: yes |
| 17:27.56 | sKeiths | thanks valdyn that worked perfectly. (what am i installing vmware-tools.pl on vm drivers disk) |
| 17:28.13 | patricx | is there no other way? |
| 17:29.02 | valdyn | patricx: the other way is to not use netinstall |
| 17:29.11 | ElDiabolo | Does anybody know a GUI man page viewer that works from the commandline (like e.g. guiman debhelper) |
| 17:29.15 | ElDiabolo | ? |
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| 17:29.58 | patricx | valdyn: full CD set returns me many links |
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| 17:31.17 | patricx | which one should i choose? |
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| 17:32.23 | oracle__ | Hi. I want a barcode scanner software that can make use of my HD camera. do you know a name of such application? |
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| 17:33.54 | bluesceada | jhutchins_wk: thanks |
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| 17:38.15 | meta-coder | I am surprised to see Linux 3.2 (linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae) in squeeze-backports!! |
| 17:38.50 | simon_clark | okay, I'm back with a slightly more working machine |
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| 17:40.02 | z28 | patricx: all you need to install debian is CD number 1 for your architecture, i386 for 32 bit processor or amd64 for 64 bit intel architecture. netinstall would require a net connection. |
| 17:40.42 | simon_clark | now, apt-get returns http://pastebin.com/NnBGK0Vm |
| 17:41.37 | mufflon | hello community, im looking for an squeeze equivalent for ms movie maker. anyone out there with experiences in slide show-creators? |
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| 17:43.35 | patricx | Z28: please just cd1 here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/i386/iso-cd/ ? |
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| 17:44.47 | themill | simon_clark: you still have a mixture of lenny and wheezy there. |
| 17:45.11 | z28 | patricx: do you have a 32 bit chip? yes cd1 iso is all you need, match the checksums to insure a good copy. |
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| 17:46.06 | simon_clark | themill, hmm, ok, do i need to rebuild the machine to resolve that, or is there a better way? |
| 17:46.11 | patricx | yes i have a 32bits |
| 17:46.20 | z28 | patricx: you can use i386 on 64 bit chips also if you want to, but that is the correct page. |
| 17:46.31 | simon_clark | can I move everything to wheezy without apt-get working? |
| 17:46.50 | whololo | hello. I would like to keep my debian testing system without display manager, login from command line and launch the x server from there. I installed xfce4 and lxde, but none of them manages to give me permissions to mount volumes or to reboot/shutdown the machine. This seems coming from a policykit/consolekit bug, does anyone know a workaround for this? |
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| 17:47.18 | z28 | patricx: have fun! |
| 17:47.43 | patricx | yeah but after the installation i have CLI but not a GUI |
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| 17:48.02 | themill | simon_clark: does "dpkg -l libc6\* multiarch-support" produce output? |
| 17:48.10 | z28 | patricx: cd1 will default install a full desktop, Gnome |
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| 17:48.57 | simon_clark | themill http://pastebin.com/5mWYxukC |
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| 17:49.51 | z28 | patricx: you will have a GUI.. yes |
| 17:49.54 | skilz | Whats this mean? cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda7 |
| 17:49.59 | wildc4rd | Good evening all |
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| 17:50.35 | patricx | and how will i get the others packets? |
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| 17:51.51 | z28 | patricx: just use synaptic, apt-get or aptitude. |
| 17:51.59 | patricx | isn't better to download DVD1 here?http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/i386/iso-dvd/(debian-6.0.3-i386-DVD-1.iso ) |
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| 17:52.18 | themill | simon_clark: do you have /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6* still on disk (a real file there, not just symlinks) |
| 17:52.29 | z28 | patricx: yes, probably, I never have but sure. |
| 17:52.42 | qewr | Hello people. I'd like to install a little forum for my friends and me. I do aptitude install sqlite ; aptitude install phpbb3 . If do icecat http://localhost/phpbb/ I get nothing ... no error message ; but also no menu for configuring phpbb. The webpages sourcecode is "". What did I wrong? What should I do? |
| 17:52.53 | patricx | thanks |
| 17:53.00 | patricx | z28 |
| 17:53.04 | z28 | patricx: you're welcome |
| 17:53.25 | simon_clark | themill, no file or sym link |
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| 17:53.47 | simon_clark | ls *std* |
| 17:53.50 | simon_clark | oops |
| 17:54.41 | whololo | so then: does anyone know how to get a fully working system without using a display manager? |
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| 17:56.39 | themill | simon_clark: if you get the libstdc++6 .deb from lenny and manually unpack it with dpkg -x and keep doing that for any other libraries that complain, you might get apt working again. Then you might be able to back out multiarch-support (probably editing /etc/ld.so* as you go). You will probably get there eventually. I've never seen anyone successfully downgrade across the multiarch changes though. Your call as to whether that or a reinstall is easier. |
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| 17:56.45 | oracle__ | anyone there knows how to use zbar for barcode reading? |
| 17:56.59 | ksuhku | simon_clark: gonorrhea, clap, hiv... |
| 17:57.01 | patricx___ | please what is the minimal space disk for debian |
| 17:57.14 | ksuhku | maybe like 5 gigs |
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| 17:59.04 | z28 | closer to 4 GB |
| 17:59.47 | patricx___ | for 8 DVD? |
| 17:59.51 | tremon | patricx___: depends on what you want to do with it. A default minimal install is a few hundred MBs |
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| 18:00.41 | z28 | patricx___: why use a dvd when a quick cd burn takes minutes |
| 18:01.13 | patricx___ | ok thanks |
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| 18:02.35 | patricx___ | you mean cd1? |
| 18:02.39 | z28 | patricx___: if you have a fast connection you can be up and running in a couple hours |
| 18:03.00 | z28 | patricx___: yes, cd1 is all you need |
| 18:03.29 | patricx___ | that is the matter my connection is not fast |
| 18:04.04 | z28 | patricx___: all the more reason to go with cd1 iso, or netinstall |
| 18:04.06 | qewr | i have it. it just didn't work with sqlite |
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| 18:05.04 | patricx___ | i launched cd1 with utorrent |
| 18:05.17 | patricx___ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.32 | patricx___ | i mean i"m waiting |
| 18:05.42 | z28 | patricx___: the time depends on how many are seeding the file |
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| 18:09.05 | z28 | patricx___: be sure to check the SHA1 or MD5SUMS on the iso before you burn it |
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| 18:13.03 | skilz | # ircd-hybrid |
| 18:13.03 | skilz | Don't run ircd as root!!! |
| 18:13.17 | skilz | $ ircd-hybrid |
| 18:13.17 | skilz | -bash: ircd-hybrid: command not found |
| 18:13.20 | skilz | wtf??? |
| 18:13.42 | dondelelcaro | skilz: it's probably in /usr/sbin or similar, which isn't all that unusual |
| 18:13.49 | cromag | try use full path if you are not in it |
| 18:13.53 | cromag | .. :) |
| 18:14.02 | jhutchins_wk | skilz: As root, find the full path and then use that as regular user. |
| 18:14.33 | jhutchins_wk | skilz: Actually - read the docs in /usr/share/doc/ircd-hybrid and find out how you're supposed to be running it as a user. |
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| 18:15.03 | jhutchins_wk | skilz: Running a public server requires that you actually read the documentation. |
| 18:15.17 | skilz | its private |
| 18:16.19 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 18:16.27 | Posterdati | please help: E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. |
| 18:16.27 | Posterdati | e_: Unable to correct dependencies |
| 18:16.37 | Posterdati | during upgrading from squeeze to wheezy |
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| 18:20.50 | Posterdati | :( |
| 18:20.53 | ironm | hello :) - pleas allow me one question: it there an option for apt-rdepends to run *only" against installed packages and the packages in cache? |
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| 18:21.23 | ironm | and NOT agains he packages in cache? |
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| 18:22.37 | acu | does anyone has installed/have experience with Kolab/CyrusIMAP/Horde and Egroupware ? I have installed Kolab in Debian Squeeze - but I wonder about Egroupware |
| 18:23.41 | ironm | with other words: do you know if there is an option for apt-rdepends to run *only" against installed packages and NOT the packages in apt cache? |
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| 18:27.13 | acu | can anyone tell me if egroupware is available as package for debian ? - I can't see it in wheezy ? |
| 18:27.35 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions egroupware |
| 18:27.36 | judd | Package: egroupware on i386 -- lenny: 1.4.004-2.dfsg-4.2; lenny-security: 1.4.004-2.dfsg-4.2 |
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| 18:30.01 | ceed^ | Hi, I'm having an error on boot and need to add a line to "the boot options in grub". Where exactly am I to add this line? |
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| 18:31.20 | z28 | ceed^: press the 'e' key at the grub menu, edit the correct line, then ctrl^x to boot it |
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| 18:31.55 | ceed^ | z28: Do I have to do that every time or will that add it permanently? |
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| 18:32.45 | z28 | ceed^: yes, but you can edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg although that will be over written with any image update. |
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| 18:33.14 | tremon | ceed^: /etc/default/grub |
| 18:33.26 | ceed^ | z28: I looked at grub.cfg, but could not figure out where to add it in the file |
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| 18:33.53 | somiaj | the grub menu is created by various scripts in /etc/grub.d/ -- so you can modify those, but /etc/default/grub should contain some basic things those scripts use for default boot options. |
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| 18:33.59 | z28 | ceed^: tremon is correct, grub.cfg is not meant to be edited directly. |
| 18:34.08 | ceed^ | btw, this is what I need to add: drm_kms_helper.poll=0 |
| 18:34.54 | ceed^ | tremon: I looked at /etc/default/grub. Where do you think I add that line? |
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| 18:35.22 | somiaj | ceed^: /etc/default/grub has some envvars you can set that the default scripts use to generate the grub menu. I would add it to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="foo=bar" env var. |
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| 18:36.24 | ceed^ | somiaj: thanks, I will try that |
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| 18:37.48 | ceed^ | somiaj: So the line should look like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="drm_kms_helper.poll=0" |
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| 18:39.08 | somiaj | correct |
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| 18:39.44 | ceed^ | somiaj: thanks, I will try that and reboot. If I'm not back in 5 mins, I messed up :) |
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| 18:40.26 | somiaj | you will have to run grub-update and then you can check the menu/config files generated to see if they were generated correct before reboting |
| 18:41.03 | tremon | somiaj: that's update-grub iirc |
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| 18:41.51 | ceed^ | I'll run update-grub now |
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| 18:42.23 | ceed^ | bbiab (i hope) |
| 18:42.43 | somiaj | tremon: can see I don't really use that, I set it up once for my system years ago and havent touched it since. (: |
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| 18:46.03 | ceed^ | Okay, no problems booting, but the error message I was supposed to have lost is still there. |
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| 18:52.18 | acu | does anyone which debian coresponds to which ubuntu version ? |
| 18:52.32 | dondelelcaro | acu: there's no correspondance |
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| 18:53.53 | acu | dondelelcaro, but about the kernel ? I want to install egroupware - and it seem that there is one for Ubuntu repos - that is why I asked - I use horde/Cyrus/Kolab - but it seem egroupware seems more sleek modern |
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| 18:55.47 | jordanm | acu: their requriements page says that they support Debian, so ask them for a Debian package |
| 18:55.54 | takahiro | can someone help me setup my modem? i keep getting kernel errors when i plug it in saying: kobject_add_internal failed for beceem with -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory |
| 18:55.54 | takahiro | beceem: could not create class |
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| 18:56.15 | jordanm | acu: there is no correspondance of kernel versions either, and commercial software outside of the debian repos is not supported here |
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| 18:59.39 | Iridos | acu, http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/eGroupWare/Debian_6.0/ ? |
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| 19:03.59 | takahiro | everytime i reboot, debian resets my ethernet configuration |
| 19:04.14 | takahiro | how can i keep my ip and gateway and resolv.conf th ethe values that i want to keep it at? |
| 19:04.34 | takahiro | i have to always manually do stuff like: route del default gw ... etc |
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| 19:04.46 | mojo-jojo | takahiro: that's prolly due to dhcp |
| 19:04.55 | babilen | !tell takahiro about interfaces |
| 19:05.04 | mojo-jojo | you can switch to a static setup in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:05.15 | loop- | write a shell script |
| 19:05.20 | babilen | takahiro: Also read http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 19:05.23 | mojo-jojo | you can also configure the dhcp client in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
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| 19:08.06 | loop- | is it a wireless interface? |
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| 19:11.15 | takahiro | its a wired interface |
| 19:11.37 | takahiro | i added the eth0 gateway and stuff in my /etc/network/interfaces file but it still shows the wrong gateway when i type route -n |
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| 19:12.11 | loop- | is it plugged in |
| 19:12.17 | loop- | does your router support dhcp |
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| 19:13.24 | patrik83 | hi, i have tried #thinkwiki channel, but there is nobody.:( I am trying to configure my own kernel for my thinkpad t410. My question is how can i find out everything about the hardware and its capabilities ? At the moment I am talking about gpio, but there some other things which I have no idea how to detect them. Are there any tools or something to do this kind of job ? Thank you very much. I know it is about debian, but at least I use debian. :) |
| 19:13.34 | takahiro | loop: nope |
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| 19:13.48 | loop- | nope to which |
| 19:13.51 | Justin | patrik83: why? |
| 19:14.00 | takahiro | loop: everything works after i configure it on the command line, i just want it to work when i bootup without configuring it every time |
| 19:14.05 | takahiro | loop: http://dpaste.org/YjbCa/ |
| 19:14.50 | takahiro | every time i boot i have to run: ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up && route del default gw 192.168.2.1 && route add default gw 192.168.2.4 && cat "nameserver 192.168.2.4" >> /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 19:15.04 | takahiro | i wish it could just save my IP settings |
| 19:15.14 | takahiro | and my gateway and DNS settings |
| 19:15.18 | Justin | takahiro: put your settings in /etc/network/interfaces where they belong |
| 19:15.31 | somiaj | patrik83: lshw is useful, also you can run a default debian kernel and look at the output of 'lsmod' to see what addtional modules you need |
| 19:15.35 | takahiro | yeah i did, but they arn't being used when i boot up |
| 19:15.37 | patrik83 | Justin: Well, I just want to learn something. As I am removing/adding capabilities of the kernel, I have to read and search for explanation what is it and how it works and so on. |
| 19:15.39 | takahiro | Justin: http://dpaste.org/YjbCa/ |
| 19:16.03 | patrik83 | Justin: I have probably lots of spare time I guess. :) |
| 19:16.26 | Justin | takahiro: did you configure it with network manager too? |
| 19:16.39 | takahiro | what is a network manager? |
| 19:16.44 | somiaj | patrik83: and then just be willing to play with trial and error, so make sure you have a working debian kernel installed of a version you won't overwrite in this process so you can always boot back into your machine and try again. |
| 19:16.44 | Justin | #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 19:16.52 | loop- | youre not setting the gateway there |
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| 19:17.22 | takahiro | i thought # means it's commented out |
| 19:17.34 | Justin | it does. where did it come from? |
| 19:17.42 | takahiro | it was there when i installed squeeze |
| 19:17.57 | Justin | takahiro: nope |
| 19:17.59 | mojo-jojo | takahiro: in your case i think it's best to add your nameservers in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and add the route commands in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:18.25 | mojo-jojo | you can overwrite the nameservers received by dhcp or append/prepend your own |
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| 19:18.37 | loop- | are you sure your gateway is *.2.4? |
| 19:19.13 | quebre | łóńćę |
| 19:19.15 | somiaj | mojo-jojo: seems strange to suggest configuriong dhclient when he wants a static ip. |
| 19:19.28 | loop- | are you running a software router? |
| 19:19.32 | mojo-jojo | sry, didn't catch that |
| 19:19.45 | somiaj | takahiro: for the dns-nameservers entry to be honored you need some resolve.conf managing tool installed, I use openresolv myself, but deban provides alternatives to this. |
| 19:20.03 | patrik83 | somiaj: If I boot debian kernel and create a list of all loaded modules, it would help me, but what about built-in drivers, functions and so on? Thanks, I always keep good debian kernel which works just good. ;) |
| 19:20.05 | takahiro | hmm i rebooted and it worked, that's strange |
| 19:20.14 | loop- | mmhmm strange indeed |
| 19:20.27 | takahiro | do the changes i make to /etc/network/interfaces get applied automatically when i change thefile? |
| 19:20.36 | loop- | no |
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| 19:20.36 | somiaj | patrik83: debian puts a copy of the config file at /boot/config-version -- so you can grep that when looking at an option to see if it was used |
| 19:20.43 | somiaj | patrik83: again lshw is a good tool to. |
| 19:20.50 | loop- | interfaces are configured on boot |
| 19:20.54 | takahiro | is there a sort of "reload the network stuff" command? |
| 19:21.05 | loop- | ifconfig |
| 19:21.19 | somiaj | takahiro: that file is only read when a script (Such as ifup/down) needs to bring up/down an interface. So you will have to ifup/ifdown the interface for the changes to be seen |
| 19:21.25 | takahiro | i did ifconfig eth0 down, ifconfig eth0 up and it did not reload anything i put in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:21.36 | Justin | takahiro: no. ifdown eth0;ifup eth0 |
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| 19:21.41 | Justin | stop using ifconfig |
| 19:21.42 | somiaj | use ifup/ifdown debian scripts (They are wrappers to ifconfig using the interfaces file) |
| 19:22.07 | takahiro | ok |
| 19:22.12 | loop- | like i said write a script lol |
| 19:22.37 | loop- | it will give you less headaches than networkmanager |
| 19:22.52 | patrik83 | somiaj: thanks. I am going to try lshw. |
| 19:22.55 | somiaj | but why write a script, debian already provides scripts and tools to use the interfaces file |
| 19:23.29 | takahiro | i have one more problem, when i try to use my usb modem i get a kernel error |
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| 19:24.46 | loop- | get different drivers or update your kernel |
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| 19:25.49 | takahiro | what does this error mean? kobject_add_internal failed for beceem with -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory |
| 19:25.49 | takahiro | beceem: could not create class |
| 19:26.19 | somiaj | takahiro: are these errors in dmesg or something you got when you tried to compile that experimental module? |
| 19:26.38 | takahiro | no, the error appears when i plug in my USB modem |
| 19:26.41 | somiaj | takahiro: have you tried to google the error, that usually works in many cases, though some you have to parse though a few forums to find a decent answer. |
| 19:26.52 | takahiro | i searched everywhere with no luck |
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| 19:27.16 | takahiro | im confused between kernel modules and drivers and firmware |
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| 19:28.21 | somiaj | a kernel module is what windows calles drivers (so they are essentailly the same thing) |
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| 19:28.42 | somiaj | firmware is just some modules require non-free binary blobs (these are called firmware) to function |
| 19:29.08 | somiaj | i.e. the linux kernel's module provides the framework to talk to the binary blob provided by the hardware manafucture, but you need the actual firmware for the device to work. |
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| 19:29.57 | takahiro | i recompiled my kernel to get a module called "bcm_wimax" |
| 19:30.11 | takahiro | http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/BCM_WIMAX.html |
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| 19:30.36 | somiaj | do you get any errors when you try to load that module? |
| 19:30.53 | takahiro | but then i compiled some module for my usb modem called drxvi314 |
| 19:30.56 | takahiro | from sprint's website |
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| 19:31.12 | takahiro | im not sure what "loading a module" is |
| 19:31.49 | takahiro | it's strange, when i reboot and do: modprobe bcm_wimax and then plugin my usb modem, i get a green light on the modem |
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| 19:32.12 | somiaj | maybe the two modules are conflciting which your error kinda suggests |
| 19:32.12 | takahiro | but when i reboot and do: modprobe drxvi314 i get a kernel error when i plugin the USB modem |
| 19:32.32 | takahiro | hmm |
| 19:32.39 | takahiro | i have no idea what to do |
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| 19:33.35 | takahiro | it's so complicated to setup my modem :( |
| 19:33.43 | takahiro | im not really a linux expert |
| 19:33.43 | Justin | takahiro: how many usb modems do you have? |
| 19:33.51 | somiaj | keep plugging away, it is mostly due to the device not having a nice native linux module/driver. |
| 19:34.15 | takahiro | i only have 1, it's a sprint U1901 4G broadband usb modem |
| 19:34.28 | Justin | takahiro: ok.. why did you install two different modules then? |
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| 19:34.45 | takahiro | i thought both were needed for it to work properly |
| 19:35.04 | takahiro | the kernel needs to recognize it and the other module needs to use it |
| 19:35.18 | Justin | uhhhhhh what? |
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| 19:35.28 | takahiro | and neither of these modules explicitly say they support my usb modem |
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| 19:35.47 | Justin | what does lbusb say? |
| 19:35.50 | takahiro | but i found these because i did a search for the lsusb line |
| 19:35.50 | Justin | er, lsusb |
| 19:36.03 | takahiro | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0489:e017 Foxconn / Hon Hai |
| 19:36.20 | takahiro | thats my modem |
| 19:36.56 | takahiro | i followed this http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opennet.ru%2Ftips%2Finfo%2F2468.shtml&act=url |
| 19:37.17 | Justin | yes, the bcm_wimax driver should do it |
| 19:37.32 | Justin | "This is an experimental driver for the Beceem WIMAX chipset used by Sprint 4G." |
| 19:37.33 | takahiro | im not sure i understand what you mean by "do it" |
| 19:37.41 | takahiro | what exactly does it do? |
| 19:37.57 | takahiro | how do i select which 4G network to connect to? |
| 19:38.16 | takahiro | does the module have some additional tools to do all of that? |
| 19:38.18 | Justin | does network manager see it? |
| 19:38.28 | takahiro | how do i check if network manager sees it? |
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| 19:38.37 | Justin | you click network manager and see if it shows up |
| 19:38.51 | takahiro | on windows, when i plug-in the usb modem, nothing happens until i run "Sprint Connection Manager" which searches for local 4G networks |
| 19:39.07 | Justin | that's windows |
| 19:39.11 | takahiro | i don't know how that would work in linux |
| 19:39.22 | takahiro | will there be a selection screen popup somewhere? |
| 19:39.36 | quebre | why i cannot install 32bit .deb packages when im on 64bit ? i get this error: package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64) |
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| 19:39.48 | quebre | is there a way to install and use it anyway ? |
| 19:39.57 | quebre | i heard one can run 32 bit software on 64 bit system |
| 19:40.10 | patrik83 | quebre: you have to install ia32-libs at least |
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| 19:40.22 | Justin | takahiro: if network manager sees it then it will be pretty obvious |
| 19:40.37 | takahiro | how do i check if the network manager sees it? |
| 19:40.42 | quebre | patrik83: ia32-libs is already the newest version. |
| 19:40.52 | quebre | seems i have it installed already.. |
| 19:40.53 | Justin | takahiro: click the network manager applet |
| 19:40.58 | mojo-jojo | i upgraded my debian lenny samba server to squeeze. now XP can't access the shares anymore, login works though. doesn't seem to be the tdbsam backend either. what gives? |
| 19:41.00 | takahiro | i have nothing to click |
| 19:41.08 | takahiro | im on the console, i haven't installed X yet |
| 19:41.09 | Justin | takahiro: then you aren't running the network manager applet |
| 19:41.12 | Justin | ugh |
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| 19:41.31 | takahiro | i can't install X until i figure out if there's video card drivers for it |
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| 19:41.50 | simonlnu | lspci should tell you |
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| 19:41.59 | Justin | takahiro: no, you install X and then you figure out pretty fast if there are drivers for your video card when it either works or doesn't work |
| 19:42.03 | simonlnu | (plus some help from us ;p) |
| 19:42.16 | simonlnu | Justin: heh, point |
| 19:42.21 | takahiro | i'm not sure if Nvidia even has Linux drivers |
| 19:42.47 | simonlnu | they do yes, and there's some packaged, and a FOSS one too |
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| 19:43.11 | takahiro | i think though my video card will support some SVGA modes |
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| 19:43.50 | Justin | takahiro: you are thinking too much |
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| 19:44.08 | takahiro | ok but all of this is useless if i can't even get internet access on my linux box |
| 19:44.19 | takahiro | because then i'd have to scrap the whole thing |
| 19:44.21 | quebre | patrik83: seems i needed the --force-architecture for dpkg ;) works now. |
| 19:44.47 | takahiro | if i plugin the usb, and i get a eth1 device, what do i do after that to actually connec tto a 4G network? |
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| 19:45.04 | Justin | takahiro: oh, it shows up as a network interface? |
| 19:45.06 | gregounours | hi you'all. Anybody wants to help me locate the source code for the NV driver under wheezy? |
| 19:45.08 | Justin | takahiro: try dhclient eth1 |
| 19:45.14 | quebre | is there a free CD/DVD burning program with lightscribe support ? |
| 19:45.19 | takahiro | ok one sec |
| 19:45.36 | takahiro | at some point how do i send the ATDT #777 ? |
| 19:45.43 | patrik83 | quebre: I am glad it works. I was going to tell about that posibility, but I wasnt sure if it is the right way how to do that. :) Well, at least it works. |
| 19:45.54 | Justin | takahiro: that is for a modem, not a ethernet device. |
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| 19:45.56 | takahiro | sprint uses #777 to dial up to the 4G |
| 19:46.05 | takahiro | ok i will try it with just dhclient |
| 19:46.11 | Justin | takahiro: if it showed up as eth0 and not ttyUSB0, you aren't going to be dialing anything |
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| 19:46.24 | takahiro | let me check again |
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| 19:51.31 | adam_ | My wheezy/sid with xfce4, losing workplace-switcher function, is confined to one screen and gome-terminal has lost its top horizontal bar as well as the vertical slider. I have submitted a bug report, but no dice. Any ideas for a fix ? What am I missing here ? |
| 19:51.55 | Justin | adam_: make a new user account and login there. does the problem go away? |
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| 19:54.33 | quebre | is there a free CD/DVD burning program with lightscribe support ? |
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| 20:03.00 | jhutchins_wk | quebre: Pretty sure there is, I've used it. It's very disappointing, very low contrast images. |
| 20:03.29 | jhutchins_wk | quebre: I don't remember what I used though. |
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| 20:06.06 | takahiro | Justin the dhclient eth1 just hung there fore about 5 min and nothing happened |
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| 20:08.48 | patrik83 | quebre: take a look here: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10204 |
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| 20:10.50 | Mohsen_Hassani | After sock.send('Hello Guys!'), how can I receive the passed value via socket from the other way? |
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| 20:16.50 | quebre | jhutchins_wk: i just installed the LaCie, hmm, burning some image |
| 20:16.56 | quebre | but seems it wont be in color |
| 20:17.02 | quebre | pretty lame, isn't it ? |
| 20:17.02 | quebre | ;P |
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| 20:17.36 | yamahaalex37 | can I use samba to share between two linux boxes |
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| 20:20.13 | Mephisto | guys, i solved my monitor issue. |
| 20:20.21 | Mephisto | if there's still anyone who remembers the story.. |
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| 20:22.17 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: Sure. |
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| 20:23.45 | patrik83 | quebre: well, I have not seen any lightscribe in colour. ;) I used to have one burner, tried it few times and just forgot. :) |
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| 20:24.50 | yamahaalex37 | filePeter: , I have linux mint, and linux mint DE, and they cant see each other |
| 20:24.55 | yamahaalex37 | but I can see the shares in Windows computers |
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| 20:27.45 | toto512 | dd |
| 20:28.54 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: What is „see“? How does your network look like? What software are you using? Have you tried „smbclient“? |
| 20:29.14 | fluXx | Need to set UTC time in BIOS. Was wondering if " # date +%T -s " is the best way to do this |
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| 20:29.31 | yamahaalex37 | filePeter: , under Network , in any file manager |
| 20:29.38 | yamahaalex37 | I can't see any sign of the other linux box |
| 20:29.42 | yamahaalex37 | but I can see the windows network |
| 20:29.58 | HUMBLEGUY | anyone with ideal on where i will get credit card |
| 20:30.32 | fluXx | HUMBLEGUY you need a CC?? |
| 20:30.50 | HUMBLEGUY | yes |
| 20:30.54 | fluXx | HUMBLEGUY a job might help |
| 20:30.56 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: Sorry, there are around 10 possible Desktopenvironments you could possibly use. We won’t know what „under Network“ is. |
| 20:31.17 | HUMBLEGUY | tel me pls |
| 20:31.20 | yamahaalex37 | its probably the same for gnome, kde, xfce, etc |
| 20:31.31 | yamahaalex37 | they all have an explorer |
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| 20:31.40 | yamahaalex37 | and under Network Places, I can't see the linux box |
| 20:31.44 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: Have you tried „smbclient“ ? |
| 20:32.04 | yamahaalex37 | what do you mean "tried" it |
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| 20:32.23 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: Ahhh, I thought you can’t browse the windowsboxes from Linux, can you? Have you set up Samba? |
| 20:32.31 | yamahaalex37 | i am using samba to share locations, and I can see those locations on my windows box |
| 20:32.32 | Iridos | I also don't see how that is a debian question if he connects mint machines with windows machines |
| 20:32.47 | yamahaalex37 | Iridos: its a linux mint with a linux mint debian machine im trying to connect |
| 20:32.50 | yamahaalex37 | the windows part is working fine |
| 20:32.57 | yamahaalex37 | but between the 2 debian, they cant see each other |
| 20:33.09 | Iridos | dpkg, mint |
| 20:33.09 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 20:33.22 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: But windows⇔linux and linux⇔windows works? |
| 20:33.31 | yamahaalex37 | correct file-exists-p |
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| 20:33.35 | yamahaalex37 | i mean filePeter |
| 20:33.52 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: Pardon? |
| 20:34.04 | yamahaalex37 | that is correct, win<>lin is working |
| 20:34.34 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: vice versa? |
| 20:34.34 | jhutchins_wk | quebre: Mine are dark brown on brown. |
| 20:34.35 | fluXx | HUMBLEGUY there is an eater egg to make cc numbers. Ctrl+Alt+print screen+b |
| 20:34.42 | yamahaalex37 | right vice versa as well |
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| 20:34.53 | jhutchins_wk | Mephisto: What did you end up doing? |
| 20:35.14 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: Did you try „smbclient“? |
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| 20:35.23 | yamahaalex37 | im not sure what that means |
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| 20:35.30 | yamahaalex37 | is that a command? i have smb client installed |
| 20:35.35 | yamahaalex37 | whats with the upsidedown quote |
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| 20:35.45 | simonlnu | german quoting |
| 20:35.56 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: It’s a cmd line program to browse samba shares. |
| 20:35.58 | jelly-home | it's pretty |
| 20:36.00 | statix | I want to make a bash script that launches its own `screen` and continues executing, does anyone have an idea how to do that? |
| 20:36.41 | Iridos | fluXx, hwclock |
| 20:36.45 | filePeter | simonlnu: Uh, yeah, sorry. I end up typing them in english as well, accidently … I’ll go with “english quotes” then. :-) |
| 20:37.11 | yamahaalex37 | so "smbclient ip"? |
| 20:37.31 | filePeter | yamahaalex37: man smbclient :-) |
| 20:37.37 | jelly-home | statix: check the parent process command line, if it's screen with a specific session name continue. If it's not, exec screen -S sessionname "$0" "$@" |
| 20:37.42 | simonlnu | filePeter: stick to plain ol' ascii double quotes, those fancy ones look funny in IRC ;P |
| 20:38.50 | fluXx | Iridos thx, been a while since I did it like that. |
| 20:39.08 | yamahaalex37 | do you think I should be trying to use WINS or something like that |
| 20:39.12 | yamahaalex37 | to share betwen linux boxes |
| 20:39.23 | statix | jelly-home: thanks, I'll give that a try |
| 20:40.13 | simonlnu | linux doesn't need winbind. the samba crappage will use it though, and so will the_so-called_os_that_will_not_be_named |
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| 20:40.36 | yamahaalex37 | lol |
| 20:40.43 | filePeter | simonlnu: “But Unicode is so cool, man!” :-) It’s bassically a optimized german yet all european layout we did: http://neo-layout.org/ |
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| 20:40.44 | yamahaalex37 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.07 | statix | jelly-home: do you know if there's a way to disable/skip the screen welcome window without needing a .screenrc file? |
| 20:41.18 | simonlnu | yamahaalex37: no, but it can. that's all that i was saying =) |
| 20:41.43 | yamahaalex37 | i dont understand then why the linux boxes cant even see each other |
| 20:41.51 | simonlnu | filePeter: ascii is easier to type ;p. i have to go use compose a lot more, for me |
| 20:41.54 | yamahaalex37 | shouldnt they at least show up in network places, if theyre on the same network |
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| 20:42.14 | jelly-home | statix: not off the top of my head. There is however a command line option to specify a custom screenrc to be read. |
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| 20:43.01 | statix | jelly-home: Nice, then I can just write a file to /tmp and load that |
| 20:43.10 | jhutchins_wk | starts using << >> quotes just to bug simonlnu |
| 20:43.42 | jelly-home | statix: or keep one handy at all times as ~/.screenrc-for-specific-purpose |
| 20:44.14 | filePeter | simonlnu: Sure, I don’t mind reading it. But it’s fast for me, why not stick to the typograpically correct stuff. :-) Well, grep on your logs might mess that up, but you won’t grep on my quotationmarks, will you? :-) Anyhow. Let’s quit that. :-) |
| 20:45.06 | filePeter | enjoys jhutchins_wk’s <<idea>>. |
| 20:45.46 | yamahaalex37 | smbclient -L sharename does not seem to work from debian box |
| 20:46.06 | simonlnu | filePeter: :). no, of course. i type a lot in irc, so for me to avoid extra typing is good. other stuff, well, i tend to be more "typo-correct" |
| 20:46.09 | robokop | filePeter: perhaps use « and » and take it to -offtopic |
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| 20:47.35 | filePeter | ? |
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| 20:48.14 | jhutchins_wk | Showing off. |
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| 20:50.58 | zombi | http://pastebin.com/isARFAYa |
| 20:51.04 | zombi | anyone know what im doing wrong here? |
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| 20:51.23 | zombi | or where i can get that missing package and no break everything? |
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| 20:53.02 | Iridos | do aptitude -f install afterwards and see if you can select a solution that doesn't remove the new package |
| 20:53.17 | Iridos | your mistake is to use dpkg directly and not apt to install things |
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| 20:54.38 | Iridos | or actually use stuff from outside the official repos :P |
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| 20:55.11 | zombi | ok |
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| 20:55.22 | zaltekk | it seems that i can no longer update my system with apt-get |
| 20:55.37 | zaltekk | apt-get update works, but apt-get upgrade does not. i get http 404 errors |
| 20:56.29 | zaltekk | maybe it's just the mirror... |
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| 21:01.02 | filePeter | Hey, concerning bts, is it possible to close a bug, if non-maintainer? |
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| 21:01.47 | Iridos | tias? |
| 21:02.03 | Iridos | although I wouldn't think you're supposed to |
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| 21:05.17 | bradland | i'm working with SSL certs and Apache under Debian 6.0.3, but i want to do this the "debian way", does anyone have a link to a good resource I should read on the ssl packages and layout of ssl certificate components under debian? |
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| 21:07.55 | jhutchins_wk | bradland: Look for a "README.Debian". |
| 21:08.24 | jhutchins_wk | bradland: I believe my certs are in the apache tree. |
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| 21:09.03 | bradland | i was thinking of putting mine there, but i found this /etc/ssl folder tree, and there's a 'private' folder there that looks relevant |
| 21:09.20 | jhutchins_wk | or sites-available or whatever it is. |
| 21:09.43 | bradland | not sure which package is authoritative with regard to /etc/ssl though. digging through the openssl docs now |
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| 21:09.46 | jhutchins_wk | bradland: That's for more generic keys/certs. |
| 21:09.51 | bradland | i see |
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| 21:10.59 | jhutchins_wk | I need to get multi-site ssl working on my debian server. Never did set it up after moving from Mandriva. |
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| 21:12.41 | Lovecraft | so... |
| 21:13.12 | JordiGH | I went into a chroot and mounted an NFS drive. Then I quit the chroot. I went back into the chroot, tried to unmuont the NFS drive, but it's still there. |
| 21:13.27 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: Magic! |
| 21:13.53 | JordiGH | Well, how do we turn this magic into science? |
| 21:14.34 | jhutchins_wk | Why should the chroot change just because you're not watching it? |
| 21:14.45 | JordiGH | Eh? |
| 21:14.53 | jhutchins_wk | If you mount a drive on a system, then log out, the drive is still mounted. |
| 21:14.56 | JordiGH | How do I umount the NFS drive that I mounted in the chroot? |
| 21:15.11 | jhutchins_wk | Oh, I see what you mean. |
| 21:15.14 | jhutchins_wk | try -f |
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| 21:15.17 | Mephisto | i'm back |
| 21:15.21 | Mephisto | ok, here's the story.. |
| 21:15.31 | JordiGH | jhutchins_wk: It's still there D: |
| 21:15.38 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: umount -f |
| 21:15.45 | Mephisto | i too my pc and connected to BBK TV monitor which was perfectly identified by system |
| 21:15.49 | JordiGH | Yes, that's it's still there. |
| 21:16.00 | JordiGH | mount outside the chroot doesn't say it's mounted. |
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| 21:16.07 | jhutchins_wk | Hm. Wonder what happens if you remove it from mtab... |
| 21:16.20 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: Well, no, it wouldn't, it's not mounted on the host system. |
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| 21:16.50 | Mephisto | its native resolution mode is 1920x .. something... doesn't matter, i forced it down to 1280x1024, saved xorg.conf file using nvidia-settings and connected my other monitor back. Works!! |
| 21:17.05 | jhutchins_wk | Mephisto: xlnt. |
| 21:17.07 | Mephisto | not only i have native resolution, i got buncha others. |
| 21:17.13 | Mephisto | jhutchins_wk< huh? |
| 21:17.19 | JordiGH | This is freaking me out, heh, why won't it umount? |
| 21:17.24 | jhutchins_wk | Mephisto: So the secret was using nvidia-settings? |
| 21:17.27 | JordiGH | Ghost In The NFS. |
| 21:17.32 | JordiGH | Get off me! |
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| 21:17.42 | JordiGH | umount -f ; umount -f; umount -f ; |
| 21:17.48 | jhutchins_wk | Network mounts of any kind are wierd. |
| 21:17.59 | Mephisto | jhutchins_wk, not really.. secret was xorg.conf, what EXACTLY to write in it.... i let nvidia-settings create xorg.conf using real 1280x1024 res. |
| 21:18.07 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: Do you have any other nfs mounts? |
| 21:18.10 | Mephisto | and that's how i got the same on my other monitor |
| 21:18.22 | Mephisto | luckly, it didn't matter which brand and model |
| 21:18.35 | JordiGH | jhutchins_wk: I mounted the same directory in the host tree, but that one umounted fine. |
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| 21:18.45 | JordiGH | The guest tree has an NFS parasite. |
| 21:18.46 | Mephisto | the thing is... Acer AL1914 is not identified either on windows or linux |
| 21:18.56 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: So the answer is "no". Check for running nfs processes. |
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| 21:18.58 | Mephisto | BUT.... on windows it still gives me a whole set of resolution, on linux... nope. |
| 21:19.18 | JordiGH | The guest doesn't have /proc... |
| 21:19.37 | Mephisto | proper settings should be done to xorg.conf respectivelly, but i didn't know which exactly. So that's why i went tricky and did what i did |
| 21:19.38 | JordiGH | The host has nfsiod running. |
| 21:19.41 | Justin | Mephisto: the fix you were given yesterday should have worked |
| 21:19.42 | jhutchins_wk | Mephisto: Remember, Nvidia wrote the software. |
| 21:19.42 | Mephisto | now it's all fione. |
| 21:19.53 | Mephisto | Justin, nah, that didn't help me. |
| 21:20.03 | Mephisto | Justin, remind me which one by the way |
| 21:20.05 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: Kill it. |
| 21:20.16 | Justin | Mephisto: the settings to ignore EDID and force a resolution |
| 21:20.22 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: You might want to do that within the chroot. |
| 21:20.23 | Mephisto | Justin, nope. That didn't help. |
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| 21:20.27 | Justin | Mephisto: the monitor seems to be clearly screwed up, which is why windows doesn't identify it either |
| 21:20.30 | Mephisto | Justin, you wanna take a look at my xorg.conf now?> |
| 21:20.34 | Justin | Mephisto: pastbin it |
| 21:20.36 | JordiGH | jhutchins_wk: The chroot doesn't have /proc... |
| 21:20.44 | Mephisto | Justin, in windows it at least ALLOWS me to use higher res. |
| 21:20.50 | Mephisto | Justin, ok, hang on. |
| 21:21.07 | JordiGH | D: |
| 21:21.11 | JordiGH | I just killdashnined it. |
| 21:21.12 | Justin | Mephisto: sure, it's probably just making things up.. when the linux driver fails to read the edid info, it just gives up. |
| 21:21.14 | JordiGH | It's still there! |
| 21:21.20 | Mephisto | Justin, exactly. |
| 21:21.48 | Mephisto | Justin, that was the whole thing. If on windows i don't have to bother and i'd just "make up" things for me, on linux it's ME who must make it up. |
| 21:21.50 | Mephisto | http://pastebin.com/XZTdv2CK |
| 21:22.15 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: You may have to reboot to clean this up, or you could just ignore it. |
| 21:22.24 | JordiGH | reboot D: |
| 21:22.30 | Justin | Mephisto: you don't have the edid settings there, so it is still proably complaining in the log |
| 21:22.30 | ksuhku | Big Media is the enemy of your freedom http://ur1.ca/ncpe |
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| 21:22.58 | Mephisto | Justin, perhaps... i'll check it out. But just a little... what does it matter anyway? :) |
| 21:23.05 | Mephisto | Justin, eitherways it's not the way supposed. |
| 21:23.13 | Mephisto | Justin, like many other things here |
| 21:23.44 | Justin | Mephisto: oh, it doesn't really at this point. ignoring edid I think makes it just fall back to safe sync/refresh/resolution settings. hardcoding specific sync/refresh/resolution settings works around it too |
| 21:24.01 | Mephisto | Unable to get display device CRT-1's EDID; cannot compute DPI |
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| 21:24.08 | Mephisto | that's what it is still |
| 21:24.13 | Mephisto | and no matter what STILL BE |
| 21:24.19 | Justin | oh, it's also still trying the CRT port and not the DFP port |
| 21:24.24 | Mephisto | of course. |
| 21:24.31 | Mephisto | cause the cable is analogue |
| 21:24.32 | Justin | there is also a setting for that, but that's really an nvidia driver bug |
| 21:24.32 | Mephisto | VHA |
| 21:24.34 | Mephisto | VGA |
| 21:24.35 | Mephisto | * |
| 21:24.41 | Justin | analog? what? |
| 21:24.42 | Mephisto | probably. |
| 21:24.49 | Mephisto | 15-pin vga cable |
| 21:24.51 | Justin | oh |
| 21:24.55 | Justin | that IS the CRT port |
| 21:24.59 | Mephisto | that's why it probably identifies it as CRT |
| 21:25.02 | Mephisto | yep. |
| 21:25.05 | Mephisto | i have nothing else. |
| 21:25.07 | Justin | you should use a dvi cable |
| 21:25.14 | Justin | wonder if that would just fix it :) |
| 21:25.19 | Mephisto | probably |
| 21:25.23 | Mephisto | but i don't have one at the moment |
| 21:25.44 | Mephisto | anyways, when i was still using ATI drivers everything was ok |
| 21:25.47 | syslq_ | CRT PORT? |
| 21:25.48 | Mephisto | except for video playback... |
| 21:25.49 | Justin | i've seen a lot of issues here where people connect new lcds to the vga port and things get all screwy - in windows even |
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| 21:26.06 | syslq_ | Vga is not crt port, vga is vga port, you can connect whatever you damn please on it |
| 21:26.07 | Mephisto | ATI drivers are different, they allow you to choose different resolutions no matter what |
| 21:26.20 | Mephisto | nvidia is another story |
| 21:26.22 | Mephisto | apparently |
| 21:26.48 | syslq_ | nvidia does not know how to work with xrandr that's it's problem, but driver interface is good (nvidia) |
| 21:26.53 | Mephisto | cause i had my 1280x1024 right on this monitor using proprietary ATI drivers |
| 21:27.02 | Mephisto | and i never messed with xorg.conf myself |
| 21:27.21 | Justin | Mephisto: yeah, sounds like the nvidia card you have has broken edid support for some reason |
| 21:27.29 | Justin | normally that is supposed to work just fine |
| 21:27.30 | Mephisto | Justin, maybe. |
| 21:27.35 | Justin | it's not really an nvidia vs. ati thing |
| 21:27.38 | Mephisto | anyways, i've solved it. |
| 21:27.45 | Mephisto | though... using really weird ways |
| 21:27.49 | Mephisto | :) |
| 21:28.04 | simonlnu | one less dead kitten. \o/ |
| 21:28.07 | Justin | Mephisto: technically you've just configured xorg the way it used to be configured before things like EDID were implemented |
| 21:28.08 | Mephisto | actually i didn't even think it'd help.. just wanted to experiment |
| 21:28.18 | Mephisto | Justin, uhu. |
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| 21:28.27 | Justin | problem is things like EDID are often broken because vendors are stupid |
| 21:28.42 | Justin | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/8705.html |
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| 21:31.26 | Iridos | simonlnu, don't tell jelly! |
| 21:32.40 | Mephisto | still, it depends on kind of monitor. That BBK TV one had the same 15-pin cable, but it was identified. |
| 21:32.52 | Mephisto | i think it's Acer too.... |
| 21:33.09 | Mephisto | or some feature is turned off in it... |
| 21:33.15 | Mephisto | EDID |
| 21:33.19 | Mephisto | for example. |
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| 21:33.26 | Mephisto | it's already ignored |
| 21:33.34 | Mephisto | so i didn't even have to do it myself |
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| 21:35.15 | Mephisto | ATI couldn't identify it either. But somehow it could give me many resolutions including native one |
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| 21:35.27 | Mephisto | but it was named as "unknown". |
| 21:35.43 | Mephisto | even on windows it's known as "analogue monitor" and not Acer |
| 21:35.50 | Mephisto | so i guess it's about cable or monitor. |
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| 21:36.01 | simonlnu | video is more art than science at times |
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| 21:38.21 | takahiro | Justin did you see my msg? |
| 21:38.48 | Justin | takahiro: yeah, no idea. your best off asking the person that wrote that new driver |
| 21:38.58 | Justin | with something that new I'd have no idea how you are supposed to use it |
| 21:39.14 | takahiro | ok |
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| 21:45.53 | JordiGH | Can you guys recommend a graphics card that works well with Debian, no blobs? |
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| 21:46.17 | JordiGH | The big requirement is that it should work with dual monitors, on a workstation. |
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| 21:47.40 | Justin | JordiGH: I have some ~10 year old dualhead video cards at home that would fit the bill :) |
| 21:47.54 | JordiGH | Justin: Sure, what are they? |
| 21:48.00 | Justin | old ati and matrox cards |
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| 21:48.20 | Justin | I think the ati one is a radeon7000 |
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| 21:57.18 | h_bang | Hello |
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| 22:03.51 | alazare619 | ok im looking for a irc "daemon" in a sort...pretty much a headless service/daemon that connects to servers like freenode etc that has frontends that i can setup to connect to it over my local network it must have frontends that work under windows as well any ideas would be greatly appreciated |
| 22:04.26 | valdyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.44 | alazare619 | i like gui frontends for irc ... |
| 22:04.54 | valdyn | !bitlbee |
| 22:04.54 | dpkg | bitlbee is an IRC gateway to instant messaging networks. Connect to AIM, ICQ, Jabber/XMPP (including Google Talk), MSN, Yahoo and other services with your favorite IRC client. http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/faq.html http://www.bitlbee.org/ #bitlbee on irc.oftc.net. See also <minbif>. |
| 22:04.56 | alazare619 | not much of a text/screen style person |
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| 22:05.12 | Justin | alazare619: bip? |
| 22:05.19 | alazare619 | bip? |
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| 22:05.28 | Justin | bip. |
| 22:05.44 | h_bang | Bop |
| 22:05.50 | valdyn | !bip |
| 22:06.05 | valdyn | hmm, bitlbee is not useful for this it seems anyway |
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| 22:07.26 | alazare619 | yea idk what to do |
| 22:07.30 | alazare619 | i see smuxi does this in a sort |
| 22:07.36 | alazare619 | but its windows client isnt stable |
| 22:07.42 | alazare619 | quassel sems to be able to do this as well |
| 22:07.56 | alazare619 | but id rather not clutter up my machine with a ton of kde libs/qt libs |
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| 22:10.29 | alazare619 | ok i guess what im looking for is a client-server irc daemon |
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| 22:12.30 | sacredchao | My DNS resolutions seems totally broken |
| 22:12.47 | sacredchao | I can only access websites through Tor, same with IM and IRC networks, etc |
| 22:12.59 | sacredchao | I can't ping google.com but I can ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:13.09 | alazare619 | change your router |
| 22:13.17 | alazare619 | set your routers dns to 8.8.8.8 |
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| 22:13.25 | alazare619 | your isp might be having dns issues |
| 22:13.32 | alazare619 | its why i use google dns over my isp dns |
| 22:13.39 | alazare619 | my isp dns is flaky at best |
| 22:13.40 | sacredchao | And I don't know if this is related but I get this error on terminal now: kernel:[1013622.657686] xhci_>[1013622.657689] rndis_host 1-1:1.0: ropped |
| 22:13.41 | Justin | sacredchao: host www.google.com; host www.google.com 8.8.8.8; |
| 22:13.46 | alazare619 | about as stable as charles manson on meth... |
| 22:13.59 | sacredchao | alazare619: I tried tethering with a totally different internet connection, it's not the router |
| 22:14.20 | sacredchao | DNS is broken on different netwrok adaptors on totally different networks |
| 22:14.22 | alazare619 | do you use gnome-network-manager or wicd? |
| 22:14.34 | sacredchao | Right now network-manager |
| 22:14.37 | sacredchao | sometimes I use wicd |
| 22:14.44 | JordiGH | What is 8.8.8.8? Is that a routable address? |
| 22:14.45 | rly | Google DNS is slower if you have a decent ISP. |
| 22:14.48 | alazare619 | well id set the dns in either of those that you use |
| 22:14.54 | valdyn | JordiGH: googles dns server |
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| 22:15.00 | JordiGH | Ah. |
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| 22:15.17 | rly | JordiGH: it in an IP address that Google likely bought for a ton of money for DNS queries for even more personal information ;) |
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| 22:15.35 | JordiGH | So if the thugs get their anti-DNS laws to pass, what servers should we use? |
| 22:15.37 | alazare619 | i dont particually use google dns tho i use a diffrent one |
| 22:15.41 | alazare619 | open dns to be exact |
| 22:15.53 | alazare619 | as i have bad sites filtered in it |
| 22:15.56 | Justin | sacredchao: host www.google.com; host www.google.com 8.8.8.8; ? |
| 22:16.01 | sacredchao | So I should change my DNS settings? Is that kernel error related? |
| 22:16.11 | rly | The Internet has no 'security' built-in. |
| 22:16.19 | valdyn | JordiGH: you cant work around root dns by using a non-us name server |
| 22:16.19 | Justin | sacredchao: you should determine what the problem is before changing things |
| 22:16.20 | alazare619 | i didnt catch the kernel error |
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| 22:16.39 | rly | If you want privacy, etc., don't use it. |
| 22:16.39 | JordiGH | valdyn: So this really would cripple the internet? |
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| 22:17.06 | takahiro | im so stuck :( why is this so hard |
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| 22:17.17 | sacredchao | Justin: That command fails for the first half |
| 22:17.33 | sacredchao | but works for the second one |
| 22:17.36 | Justin | sacredchao: fails HOW |
| 22:17.39 | sacredchao | host google.com 8.8.8.8 works |
| 22:17.41 | valdyn | JordiGH: no, you need someone to set up alternative root dns servers and a dns server using those that you can query |
| 22:17.45 | innociv | What am I doing wrong with find? if I "find /src/apache2 -name 'mod_fcgid.c'", or '*fcgid*' for -name, I don't get a result and I'm positive that that file is in there. |
| 22:17.47 | sacredchao | Justin: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
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| 22:18.04 | rly | How can I nuke the nautilus burn CD 'integration' from orbit? |
| 22:18.10 | JordiGH | I guess I should really learn how DNS works... |
| 22:18.12 | rly | It costed me a DVD tonight. |
| 22:18.14 | Justin | sacredchao: what does your /etc/resolv.conf contain? |
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| 22:18.34 | sacredchao | lol |
| 22:18.36 | JordiGH | lol |
| 22:18.36 | sacredchao | Justin: # Generated by NetworkManager |
| 22:18.40 | sacredchao | that's it |
| 22:18.43 | sacredchao | >_< |
| 22:18.54 | valdyn | JordiGH: its not overly hard to use a different name for those sites that are blacklisted, sites already do that now |
| 22:19.01 | rly | I wonder how they managed to make it suck that much. Especially when other open-source programs do work. They should just do a copy-paste of their source code. |
| 22:19.05 | takahiro | hmm something is wrong, when i try to boot it says "No boot signature in partition" any idea why? i ran lilo before i rebooted |
| 22:19.10 | Justin | sacredchao: did you do something like statically configure your DNS in network-manager and then delete the settings and not set it back to dhcp? |
| 22:19.11 | JordiGH | valdyn: I use MAFIAAfire on Iceweasel. |
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| 22:19.22 | valdyn | JordiGH: so a name blacklist might aswell end up doing nothing but cause name changes |
| 22:19.36 | sacredchao | Justin: No. Is switched back and forth between wicd and nm is the biggest changes |
| 22:19.40 | valdyn | ( + some minor inconvenience ) |
| 22:19.48 | Justin | sacredchao: well, you should fix that |
| 22:19.57 | sacredchao | What should I put in there |
| 22:20.39 | Justin | sacredchao: you don't put anything in there. you un-do whatever you did to make your system not get those settings from dhcp |
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| 22:21.43 | takahiro | anyone know how to fix a broken boot up? |
| 22:22.19 | Justin | takahiro: what did you do to break it? |
| 22:22.32 | sacredchao | Justin: I didn't change any DNS settings |
| 22:22.34 | takahiro | i typed lilo /dev/sdb |
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| 22:22.57 | h_bang | Not with lilo takahiro |
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| 22:23.49 | Justin | sacredchao: well switching from nm to wicd or whatever you did broke them |
| 22:23.50 | h_bang | Where is your system installed? Sdb1 |
| 22:24.05 | Justin | sacredchao: disabling and re-enabling the connection in wicd might fix it |
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| 22:24.12 | takahiro | i don't remember |
| 22:24.45 | takahiro | i was trying to set up a menu for booting to different versions of the kernels i have |
| 22:25.03 | takahiro | so i removed /vmlinuz and linked to different stuff |
| 22:25.13 | takahiro | then i ran lilo /dev/sdb and lilo /dev/sda |
| 22:25.22 | takahiro | to make sure both of them have been lilo'd |
| 22:25.31 | h_bang | Takahiro cam you boot from a live cd to check? Or fdisk -L |
| 22:26.01 | rly | Why does Debian ship inferior software? http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html |
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| 22:26.14 | takahiro | im on the rescue CD and it says /dev/sdb3 is Linux and /dev/sdb2 is Linux swap |
| 22:26.18 | h_bang | Takahiro sorry I use grub all the time... |
| 22:26.46 | Justin | rly: JÃorg Schilling is nuts. disregard anything he says |
| 22:26.58 | takahiro | what should i do now? how can i boot to /dev/sdb3 ? |
| 22:27.01 | rly | Justin: but reality matches what he says. |
| 22:27.09 | h_bang | Ok good takahiro wait 2 min I check |
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| 22:27.15 | rly | Justin: reality is that Debian ships broken burn software. |
| 22:27.25 | Justin | rly: works for me. works for a lot of people |
| 22:27.42 | rly | Justin: try the integrated Gnome Nautilus stuff. |
| 22:27.50 | Justin | rly: pretty much all distributions include the so called 'broken' software |
| 22:28.02 | rly | Justin: it doesn't work and I don't think it ever has worked. |
| 22:28.12 | Justin | look at his page: debian,redhat,fedora,slackware,gentoo,opensuse,arch |
| 22:28.14 | Justin | rly: works for me |
| 22:28.42 | nkuttler | rly: also when some gui packages are broken that doesn't mean the dependency is.. |
| 22:29.06 | rly | Justin: are you saying that you use Squeeze and that you have tried to burn anything with that exact program the (the nautilus burn interface)? |
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| 22:29.35 | rly | nkuttler: but it should mean that the package is immediately deleted from the archives. |
| 22:29.38 | nkuttler | rly: no. learn what stable means |
| 22:29.39 | rly | nkuttler: if you leave a hole in the ground in the real world, you can get sued. |
| 22:29.49 | nkuttler | rly: you sound like a troll |
| 22:29.59 | rly | nkuttler: you sound like an ignorant idiot. |
| 22:29.59 | Justin | rly: yep. works fine. |
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| 22:30.03 | nkuttler | rly: read the disclaimer that came with your system |
| 22:30.15 | h_bang | Takahiro I m really not sure sorry, maybe you have a kilo.conf in / etc |
| 22:30.16 | rly | nkuttler: why are you defending a broken system? |
| 22:30.22 | nkuttler | rly: you sound like somebody that doesn't read and claims other people are ignorant... |
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| 22:30.30 | nkuttler | rly: i'm not defending it at all |
| 22:30.31 | rly | nkuttler: sure, I have read it. |
| 22:30.36 | rly | nkuttler: yes, you are. |
| 22:30.39 | jelly-home | rly: Debian doesn't ship schily's software because he's proven to be difficult to work with. It's an old issue. |
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| 22:31.03 | rly | jelly-home: I also agree with his claims regarding the violoation of the GPL. |
| 22:31.09 | nkuttler | rly: i am trying to explain to you how a *system* works. not packages |
| 22:31.13 | rly | violation* |
| 22:31.25 | rly | nkuttler: did I ask for that? |
| 22:31.34 | takahiro | ok |
| 22:31.37 | nkuttler | rly: anyway, there'S for #debian-offtopic for your philosopical questions |
| 22:31.46 | jelly-home | rly: this channel is about helping with tech. issues. If you think you can contributed, take this up with debian-legal. |
| 22:32.03 | rly | nkuttler: my claim is that the integrated gnome nautilus burn dialog is broken and that it is _irresponsible_ to leave it like this. |
| 22:32.12 | nkuttler | rly: which is off-topic here |
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| 22:32.24 | rly | nkuttler: er, it is software shipped via Debian. |
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| 22:32.32 | rly | nkuttler: it cannot possibly be _more_ on-topic. |
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| 22:32.35 | nkuttler | *plonk* |
| 22:32.35 | jelly-home | rly: which bug report is it? |
| 22:33.13 | rly | jelly-home: I will have a look who reported it, since it exists for at least a few years now. |
| 22:33.32 | sacredchao | Okay m /etc/resolv.conf is empty and I'm not sure what to put into it to make my DNS work again |
| 22:33.44 | jelly-home | rly: the bug number is enough |
| 22:33.45 | sacredchao | And I can only browse the web through Tor so it's really slow researching the problem |
| 22:34.14 | nkuttler | sacredchao: how are you connected to the internet? |
| 22:34.48 | sacredchao | nkuttler: Via Wifi on residential DSL or cable using network-manager at the moment |
| 22:35.00 | takahiro | when i run lilo, it says "Warning: /dev/sdb is not on the first disk" what does that mean? |
| 22:35.05 | sacredchao | But sometimes I tether through an Android computer's UMTS radio |
| 22:35.12 | nkuttler | sacredchao: dsl or cable? like... a network you shouldn't be connected to? |
| 22:35.50 | nkuttler | sacredchao: anyway, talk to whoever manages the AP.. |
| 22:36.43 | takahiro | how do i install a master boot record on /dev/sdb? |
| 22:36.46 | sacredchao | nkuttler: What are you talking about that I shouldn't be connected to, I don't know the technology behind every Wifi I connect to in my life |
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| 22:36.58 | nkuttler | sacredchao: anyway, talk to whoever manages the AP.. |
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| 22:37.06 | sacredchao | I'm a guest at someones house and they gave me the password and wether it is DSL or cable is totally irrelevant |
| 22:37.35 | sacredchao | nkuttler: But before I could switch between Wifi networks and tethering with my phone |
| 22:37.42 | sacredchao | And now both are broken with DNS |
| 22:37.48 | sacredchao | So I think it's a local configuration issue |
| 22:38.08 | jelly-home | sacredchao: a typical quick workaround is using Google's public resolver servers: "nameserver 8.8.8.8" and "nameserver 8.8.4.4" |
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| 22:38.30 | rly | jelly-home: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/405544 |
| 22:38.42 | rly | jelly-home: that's it and _tons_ of people have reported it. |
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| 22:39.04 | rly | jelly-home: either via 'blogs' or via 'official' channels like the above one. |
| 22:39.43 | jelly-home | rly: do you know which Debian bug number is it? |
| 22:39.54 | nkuttler | rly: "This bug was filed against a series that is no longer supported", and yes, it's not even a debian bug |
| 22:40.04 | rly | jelly-home: I have no idea whether it is reported in Debian and who cares? |
| 22:40.16 | jelly-home | rly: you do, apparently |
| 22:40.24 | rly | jelly-home: Ubuntu derives from Debian and I am telling you that the exact same thing exists in Debian Squeeze. |
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| 22:40.34 | rly | jelly-home: I think you are just a bureaucrat. |
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| 22:40.45 | rly | nkuttler: and you are even worse. |
| 22:40.46 | nkuttler | thinks he was right earlier |
| 22:40.55 | nkuttler | rly: what? because i can read? |
| 22:40.57 | sacredchao | omg my / was full |
| 22:41.14 | rly | nkuttler: that still has to be proven. |
| 22:41.16 | h_bang | Takahiro |
| 22:41.30 | rly | nkuttler: please tell me, does Microsoft pay you to say this? |
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| 22:41.44 | takahiro | ya? |
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| 22:41.59 | h_bang | Takahiro do you have a /etc/lilo.conf file in sdb3 |
| 22:42.05 | rly | nkuttler: or you work for the government, which is also possible. |
| 22:42.08 | takahiro | yeah i do |
| 22:42.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | rly: pass along please, i think you've passed the point where you are simply trying to get help |
| 22:42.11 | socomm | Hey guys im wondering if theres anyway to force an application to use multiple cores. |
| 22:42.13 | takahiro | i think i figured out the problem tho |
| 22:42.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | socomm: no |
| 22:42.24 | jelly-home | rly: if you don't want to help me help you find the right approarch to fixing your issue in Debian, I'm not sure what else do you expect to be done |
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| 22:42.30 | rly | Kamping_Kaiser: pass along? I have a technical problem and all I get are bureaucrats. |
| 22:42.47 | rly | Kamping_Kaiser: the problem is abundantly clear. |
| 22:42.54 | nkuttler | indeed it is |
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| 22:43.12 | rly | Kamping_Kaiser: I have even indicated what Debian should do (either fix it or stop shipping it or provide a big warning on installation). |
| 22:43.13 | h_bang | Takahiro what is inside, can you see boot= |
| 22:43.28 | jelly-home | rly: none of us invented Debian's bug report procedures, we just know about them. |
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| 22:43.30 | takahiro | i got it |
| 22:43.31 | rly | Kamping_Kaiser: if you then say I need to pass along, I get the impression the goal is to produce crap. |
| 22:43.46 | rly | Kamping_Kaiser: not the goal to produce whatever is in Debian's offical goals. |
| 22:43.53 | takahiro | the problem was i ran lilo /dev/sdb mbr and im supposed to just run lilo |
| 22:43.56 | rly | Kamping_Kaiser: so, pulllleeeaaasseee. |
| 22:44.27 | jelly-home | rly: just saying, if you want this fixed, you're doing it wrong. |
| 22:44.29 | rly | I thought bureaucracy only existed in the real world; God this sickens me. |
| 22:44.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | rly: you haven't fileed the bug in debian, you haven't reported the bug in debian. NO ONE here maintains or can modify the software you are having an issue with. if you want it fixed *the maintainer* must know about it |
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| 22:44.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | assuming you are on stable this will all be moot in 12 months with gnome 3 :/ |
| 22:44.52 | h_bang | Takahiro maybe you can move to grub :-o |
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| 22:45.06 | rly | Kamping_Kaiser: the maintainer isn't a maintainer if he doesn't monitor other bug systems. |
| 22:45.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | h_bang: gosh, isn't that a bit cutting edge? :) |
| 22:45.16 | rly | Kamping_Kaiser: then it is just someone with the title maintainer. |
| 22:45.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | ... |
| 22:45.26 | rly | It could just have been 'patethic loser'; no difference. |
| 22:45.37 | rly | pathetic loser* |
| 22:45.40 | AimHere | Funnily enough, that term sprung into my mind very recently |
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| 22:45.55 | rly | AimHere: mirror nearby? |
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| 22:46.08 | AimHere | nope |
| 22:46.08 | eyeris | I have debian-archive-keyring installed and it is up-to-date but when I use aptitude safe-upgrade it complains that there are untrusted packages. How can I determine why those packages are untrusted? AFAIK they aren't from non-debian repositories. |
| 22:46.11 | rly | Any more bureaucrats? |
| 22:46.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | rly: i don't see you changing your approach to this problem, so i think it would be best if this just stops now |
| 22:46.19 | h_bang | Camping_Kaiser are you using lilo? |
| 22:46.25 | jelly-home | !ops rly trolling: interjecting emotionally charged phrases to a supposed tech. query; unwilling to file bugs or get help filing them |
| 22:46.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: rly trolling: interjecting emotionally charged phrases to a supposed tech. query; unwilling to file bugs or get help filing them |
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| 22:46.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | rly: please take your problem elseware, perhaps even try filing a constructive bug |
| 22:47.01 | rly | !ops Kamping_Kaiser Acts actively against Debian official stated goals. |
| 22:47.02 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: rly complains about: Kamping_Kaiser Acts actively against Debian official stated goals. |
| 22:47.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | h_bang: nope, grub2 for some time |
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| 22:47.59 | rly | !ops nkuttler Actively moves discussion to unrelated topics while not helping one bit. |
| 22:47.59 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: rly complains about: nkuttler Actively moves discussion to unrelated topics while not helping one bit. |
| 22:48.07 | h_bang | Camping_Kaiser yes me too , I cant remember lilo... |
| 22:48.26 | rly | !ops jelly-home Only does bureaucratic talk. |
| 22:48.26 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: rly complains about: jelly-home Only does bureaucratic talk. |
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| 22:48.56 | Valtam | finally |
| 22:49.06 | niko | rly: please desist |
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| 22:49.22 | h_bang | Takahiro if you change boot=/dev/sdb3 is it ok? |
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| 22:49.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | dax: seems you 20 seconds late, sorry about that :( |
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| 22:51.28 | jelly-home | niko: thanks |
| 22:51.39 | h_bang | Please somebody the Irish tv. |
| 22:51.48 | h_bang | Kil |
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| 22:56.41 | food | hello? do anyone now a good method to make a live debian testing usb. I tried the premade stable and....wifi does not seem to work |
| 22:57.00 | food | making a live debian usb seems to be worse than the gentoo guide |
| 22:58.00 | nkuttler | food: did you check why your wifi does not seem to work? |
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| 22:58.52 | food | i have a intel 6205 wifi card. I cant seem to find the reason why i did update wifi tools and even downloaded the intel firmware |
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| 22:59.07 | food | which made it work while i install gentoo at that time |
| 22:59.23 | Valtam | food try: dd if=debianisoname.iso of=/dev/sd[x] |
| 22:59.26 | food | i cant update my computer since it not direct access to internet |
| 22:59.37 | food | i sort tried it on windows |
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| 23:00.02 | food | it skip my usb and goes to the next drive on the list |
| 23:00.34 | Valtam | is the usb munted? |
| 23:00.38 | Valtam | if so, unmount |
| 23:00.44 | Valtam | mounted* |
| 23:00.58 | food | nope, but if it work on linux i will try it guess |
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| 23:01.13 | food | arg i kidda wish unetbootin work |
| 23:01.25 | h_bang | Did you try another USB drive? It did this to me once |
| 23:01.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | doesnt debian live provide testing images too? |
| 23:01.39 | food | not img images |
| 23:01.43 | food | i cant find it |
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| 23:03.45 | ironm | yes Kamping_Kaiser |
| 23:04.13 | food | do u have a link |
| 23:04.17 | food | ? |
| 23:04.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | food: http://live.debian.net/ |
| 23:04.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | 'download snapshots: daily weekly monthly' ? |
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| 23:04.58 | food | i just want testing |
| 23:05.30 | food | any becuase of driver and etc I have a Acer Timeline X and it uses secon gen i5 |
| 23:05.36 | food | it not an old machine |
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| 23:08.26 | food | i just tested the dd command and no it does not work |
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| 23:09.13 | food | @ Kamping_kaise those directories are empty |
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| 23:10.16 | innociv | I have chrooted users and I'm trying(someone suceeding) to run php within the chroot under the chrooted users name. It is working, but with absolute paths, which makes no sense to me. In my phpwrapper I have to point to /to/to/userchroot/wrapper instead of simply /wrapper/. How can that be?... |
| 23:10.30 | innociv | It also complicates my wrapper script because I need a different wrapper path for each user. |
| 23:10.44 | innociv | ... ohhh |
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| 23:10.54 | innociv | It's because I'm matching sftp group instead of user, maybe. |
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| 23:14.34 | Valtam | food: what was the error |
| 23:15.30 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/Xzk7TX39 I have this in my sshd_config to chroot users logging in through sftp. How do I have an application, such as php, chrooted to that directory when it runs as that user as well? |
| 23:16.01 | food | @Valtam error? |
| 23:16.12 | Valtam | food> i just tested the dd command and no it does not work |
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| 23:17.19 | babilen | food: You can use https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare the USB from Windows. You probably have to rename the <hybrid image> from .iso to .img as Windows is a bit weird when it comes to filenames. |
| 23:17.58 | food | i use dd command on cygwin bash i even tried it on linux |
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| 23:18.15 | Valtam | so what was the output on linux? |
| 23:18.49 | food | normal stuff like write in ??? write out??? write mb to ??? |
| 23:18.49 | babilen | food: I've seen reports about cygwin's dd before. Please try the tool I've linked or use a real *NIX |
| 23:18.51 | food | like usual |
| 23:19.03 | food | i did use real unix |
| 23:19.11 | food | a few minutes ago |
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| 23:19.33 | food | i mange to install debian however no wifi. This is why I am asking for testing |
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| 23:19.48 | food | there is no testing.img |
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| 23:20.18 | Valtam | food: when you run the command, are you in the same dir as the .iso file? |
| 23:20.30 | food | do i have to? |
| 23:20.33 | babilen | food: So you want to install Debian and more specifically testing? |
| 23:20.46 | food | yea drivers and etc |
| 23:20.54 | food | new machine no support on stable |
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| 23:21.06 | food | acer timelinex 4830tg |
| 23:21.09 | |DM| | Hello |
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| 23:21.24 | multipass | is there a way to view all groups? |
| 23:21.27 | |DM| | When I non sudo-allowed user tries to use sudo it says that it is reported |
| 23:21.30 | takahiro | h_bang i got it to boot |
| 23:21.32 | |DM| | reported where? |
| 23:21.40 | Valtam | food: paste the command you entered |
| 23:21.52 | babilen | food: I doubt that - You will probably only need a newer kernel which you can get from backports. (.39 3.1 and 3.2) -- /msg dpkg bdo -- It should also be noted that the recommended way to install testing is to install stable first and take it from there. |
| 23:22.00 | h_bang | Takahiro yeah great well done! :-D |
| 23:22.21 | takahiro | thanks h_bang... still stuck trying to get internet to work though ;_; |
| 23:22.28 | h_bang | Tell us what was it we are all rusty in lilo ? Please |
| 23:22.38 | food | o@ bablen which pakages do i need? |
| 23:22.42 | takahiro | i just ran lilo, instead of lilo /dev/sdb |
| 23:22.51 | takahiro | and it booted |
| 23:22.58 | food | @|DM| /var/log/auth.log |
| 23:23.08 | babilen | food: Also make sure that you actually download a <hybrid image> -- If you want to test the testing installer you can get that one from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ but it is probably not working. |
| 23:23.15 | h_bang | Takahiro if you have connection maybe it is just the dns |
| 23:23.22 | |DM| | food: ah, thank you. I assume all logs are kept in /var/log ? |
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| 23:23.30 | takahiro | no i can't get linux to recognize my usb modem |
| 23:23.30 | babilen | |DM|: Yes |
| 23:23.34 | food | @ Valtam dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 23:23.45 | |DM| | Thank you, it's been confusing switching from windows to ubuntu to debian |
| 23:23.46 | babilen | multipass: /etc/group |
| 23:24.02 | food | at babilen there are space problems their tat lol |
| 23:24.03 | h_bang | Ok takahiro, cool just lilo cool :-) |
| 23:24.15 | babilen | food: "their tat lol" ? |
| 23:24.20 | food | @|DM| yep |
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| 23:24.44 | food | @ babilen i tried tat. Do u think I will waste your time common |
| 23:24.48 | food | comme on |
| 23:25.00 | takahiro | yep thanks h_bang |
| 23:25.24 | babilen | food: I don't quite understand what you are trying to say - What do you mean by "their tat lol" and *what* did you try to what effect? |
| 23:25.45 | takahiro | i have the usb modem listed here (http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/BCM_WIMAX.html) but i need some kind of firmware that i can't find |
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| 23:26.40 | food | @ babilen sorry. Oh well. I will try to use those kernel backport or else I will use the painful route of chroot |
| 23:26.48 | takahiro | i'm going to try upgrading to wheezy to see if that fixes it |
| 23:27.47 | h_bang | Ok I don't know this one either... |
| 23:28.07 | food | @babilen btw, what is the package name for backports? |
| 23:28.17 | babilen | food: You *can* run testing if you want to and know enough to deal with it quirks. I am merely saying that hardware support is handled by the kernel and you can easily install a 2.6.39, 3.1.? and 3.2.1 one from backports. All you would need in addition to that is the firmware (firmware-iwlwifi). |
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| 23:29.04 | babilen | food: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-3&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=squeeze-backports (or search yourself with different queries) |
| 23:29.09 | food | @babiled i did install fireware-iwlifi |
| 23:29.14 | food | thnks |
| 23:29.36 | dwon | Is there a way to do a secure NFSv4 mount *without* having to set up Kerberos? |
| 23:29.52 | dwon | Like with pre-shared keys or something? |
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| 23:30.04 | babilen | food: What was your card again? Do you have its PCIID? (lspci -nn|grep -i network) |
| 23:31.54 | food | 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation 6000 series Gen2 [8086:0082] (rev 34) |
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| 23:32.44 | babilen | food: Yeah, that one needs a newer kernel. (2.6.35+) |
| 23:33.08 | babilen | food: (cf. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0082 btw) |
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| 23:33.40 | food | hey this is a new machine only a few months old |
| 23:33.50 | food | Of course i figured the kernel is too old |
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| 23:35.18 | babilen | food: Do you have other means to connect to the internet during or after the installation? How? |
| 23:35.36 | food | i have a netbook |
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| 23:36.08 | food | it running arch kde4 dawm it was painful too old 2 yrs |
| 23:36.12 | babilen | food: Does it come with built-in internet? ;) -- I mean: How can you connect to the internet? |
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| 23:36.45 | food | ? |
| 23:36.54 | food | theyre laptops and netbook |
| 23:37.01 | food | they all can connect to the internet |
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| 23:37.48 | babilen | food: How? Wireless? (Encryption? Which? (WEP/WPA/WPA2/...)) Ethernet? TCP-IP-over-pidgins, Token-Ring, ... ? |
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| 23:38.26 | food | wireless no encyption because my router uses mac filtering |
| 23:38.32 | notjimcarrey | anyone know the max resolution you can use in grub2 (gfxmode)? |
| 23:38.33 | food | i can use command line no worries |
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| 23:39.11 | notjimcarrey | tried setting it to 1920x1080x32 but it just goes to default after reboot |
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| 23:39.42 | babilen | food: Ok, in that case you *should* be able to use the kmuto installer (which comes with a .39 kernel) with firmware. I am, however, not entirely sure if those are hybrid images. No ethernet at all? |
| 23:39.50 | babilen | !tell food -about kmuto |
| 23:39.55 | J-LAW | does anyone know how i can define what order/assignment that pata devices are given at boot time? |
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| 23:40.01 | babilen | !tell food -about installer firmware |
| 23:40.28 | J-LAW | i got an expansion pata card that is getting assigned different device names than the BIOS does, this is a problem because it assigns my boot device differently |
| 23:40.49 | J-LAW | so the bios loads grub, but grub can't thinks the drive is different than it is |
| 23:41.45 | babilen | food: IIRC most of them already ship firmware (check the description) -- I would still strongly recommend to install a backported kernel after the initial install. You may, if you want to, also make the switch to testing. Good luck! |
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| 23:42.28 | J-LAW | expansion card uses driver pata_it821x and sets its channels to scsi0 and scsi1; onboard uses pata_via and gets scsi2 and scsi3 |
| 23:42.32 | babilen | notjimcarrey: Hmm, not sure if there is a maximum resolution. How/Where do you set it? |
| 23:43.06 | notjimcarrey | in /etc/grub.d/00_header |
| 23:43.11 | food | @ it only get better after i get the internet working. either way it is a pain. i have downloading kernel because of depedencies |
| 23:43.12 | J-LAW | would like to have onboard pata_via driver get scsi0 and scsi1 so my boot device |
| 23:43.35 | J-LAW | ahh, so grub is what decides ata controller naming? |
| 23:44.09 | babilen | notjimcarrey: That is wrong -- You should edit /etc/default/grub (read info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration') and run "update-grub2" -- The files in /etc/grub.d/ are not really meant for you tinker with. (except the *_custom ones) |
| 23:44.56 | notjimcarrey | babilen: nope, i had it working with 1280x1024, but don't want 4:3 |
| 23:45.02 | babilen | food: I already told you where you can get an installer image with a kernel that supports your wireless adapter and firmware -- What more do you need? |
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| 23:45.23 | food | @babilen it fine thank you. |
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| 23:46.05 | notjimcarrey | babilen: and i tried setting it in /etc/default/grub as well with the same result |
| 23:46.31 | babilen | notjimcarrey: Still, please don't rely on that tinkering. It might be that different fb support different resolutions. (To the effect that, for example, you might have to install the nvidia driver for full resolution) -- But that is a mere guess and might just as well be wrong. I'd ask in a more grub specific channel. |
| 23:46.43 | takahiro | how do i find the source package name of a package? |
| 23:46.54 | notjimcarrey | babilen: i have the nvidia driver installed and loaded |
| 23:47.43 | |DM| | Sorry but I have another question, how do I get apt-cache search to look for exact matches? eg. "sudo apt-cache search *exact match*" |
| 23:48.10 | notjimcarrey | damn irc syntax |
| 23:48.15 | notjimcarrey | mirc spoiled me |
| 23:48.39 | notjimcarrey | now i have to wait for the entire /list to finish |
| 23:48.40 | notjimcarrey | lol |
| 23:48.47 | |DM| | oh, haha |
| 23:48.56 | babilen | notjimcarrey: Ok. I have 1600x900 running here (on intel hd3000) without problems. I am really not sure what might cause your issue. Did you run "update-grub2" after editing /etc/default/grub ? |
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| 23:49.07 | notjimcarrey | babilen: yeah |
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| 23:49.28 | babilen | notjimcarrey: Ok, I'll ping if I find something or think of anything. |
| 23:49.45 | notjimcarrey | babilen: k, thanks |
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| 23:50.06 | notjimcarrey | using strictly console atm, so re-getting use to console apps |
| 23:50.12 | notjimcarrey | been a while |
| 23:50.40 | |DM| | no-one knows how to do exact matches? |
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| 23:51.20 | notjimcarrey | |DM|: have you tried using aptitude? |
| 23:51.31 | |DM| | nope, not used to it |
| 23:51.33 | |DM| | should I? |
| 23:51.51 | notjimcarrey | me neither, but it isn't difficult, the ksy commands are shown on screen |
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| 23:52.08 | Mephisto | erm... |
| 23:52.10 | Posterdati | hi |
| 23:52.15 | notjimcarrey | it's kinda like synaptic for console |
| 23:52.32 | Posterdati | please I need help using nvidia nv44 on wheezy, xorg won't start |
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| 23:52.47 | Mephisto | although i've solved that resolution prob.. but now Wine refuses to work... apparently it doesn't like either nvidia or those settings in xorg.conf. |
| 23:53.10 | Mephisto | maybe those are left from ATI... dunno.. |
| 23:53.17 | Mephisto | how do i reconfigure it? |
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| 23:54.18 | babilen | |DM|: "aptitude search '~n^exact$'" for package name "exact" -- /msg dpkg aptitude search |
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| 23:56.22 | babilen | Mephisto: Reconfigure what? |
| 23:56.30 | |DM| | ncbabthanks |
| 23:56.37 | |DM| | babilen: thanks |
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| 23:56.47 | babilen | |DM|: Hehe :) -- You are most welcome. |
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| 23:57.40 | Manabu2 | my system is not responsive (in a vm) |
| 23:57.48 | Mephisto | babilen, wine |
| 23:57.57 | Mephisto | babilen, i believe it refuses to work due to old video settings.. |
| 23:58.02 | |DM| | (nc was there because I was just attacked with a bazillion lines by doing 'apt-cache search nc'" |
| 23:58.05 | Manabu2 | it swaped away, and I can't kill the process with ctrl+c |
| 23:58.26 | babilen | Mephisto: NFC - /me has been wine/windows free for years. |
| 23:58.27 | food | @babilen got it thnks for everything. Sorry for all the misunderstadings |
| 23:58.47 | babilen | food: No problem - Enjoy the installation! |
| 23:59.01 | Manabu2 | and any command takes like 5 minutes to execute... |
| 23:59.11 | food | @babilen the only reason why i flock to debian is for oss4 support |
