| 00:00.22 | Braniac | question, when i compile a kernel fom source from /usr/src/ with make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-1st kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source, the i install the .deb image and headers (in that order), why it doesn't work on the same machine but with debian installed from scratch ??? |
| 00:00.26 | themill | no, it's markup to tell latex to create proper matching quotes. |
| 00:00.29 | themill | dpkg: tell Braniac about repeat |
| 00:00.42 | acx0 | engla, oh interesting |
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| 00:01.49 | engla | acx0: try \textrm{``Hi There''} in http://www.codecogs.com/latex/eqneditor.php |
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| 00:03.11 | acx0 | engla, cool. I'd never encountered that while using latex |
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| 00:03.25 | acx0 | then again, i never really formally learned it |
| 00:03.47 | engla | you must have wondered how to get it to produce ‘ |
| 00:04.17 | acx0 | engla, well I've only really used it for my resume and never actually had to use that |
| 00:05.15 | tuvwx | with full font hinting, the Palatino font looks ugly in firefox/iceweasel. with slight hinting, it looks nice, but everything else is blurred (gtk widget text, terminal,...everything). |
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| 00:05.40 | tuvwx | can't i have good fonts everywhere? |
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| 00:11.55 | tuvwx | what font configuration do you use? |
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| 00:16.32 | Guest6588 | just installed squeeze and two items 1. screen resolution does not stay at 1024X768 when i unlock the bottom menu bar is cut off i change the resolution again and it is back as it should be |
| 00:17.11 | Guest6588 | 2. i need a java plugin but not sure what non-free i am suppose to use in synaptic |
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| 00:23.14 | Tris0mi | im having problem using linux i just installed, computer shut downs right before login screen shows up. I just noticed that almost all the times i start upp the computer and chose to boot debian i get this messege "Critical temperature reached (105 C) shutting down" , it runs for a while and crash before login screen pop up.. is that bad ? |
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| 00:25.46 | jordanm | Tris0mi: yes |
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| 00:26.00 | Tris0mi | few times i actually get into, but if i try to install programs or such, it shut downs... |
| 00:26.19 | Magui | hello, all. I am trying to get rid of an error message in wine: "Wine cannot find the FreeType font library" I thought that having the package libfreetype6 installed would be enough, but wine isn't seeing these fonts, I guess. anybody know how I can make this error message go away? |
| 00:26.23 | jordanm | you should stop trying, before you damage your hardware |
| 00:26.46 | Tris0mi | but why is my comp working in windows, sure it happends it suddenly shut down, maybe once or twice per day, but debian, non stop |
| 00:27.05 | simonlnu | yes.. check cpu cooling paste, heatsink(s), the whole board i'd say, make sure everything's working right |
| 00:27.38 | LtL | Tris0mi: check your fans, clean it up |
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| 00:28.18 | Tris0mi | speedfan in windows say: HD0 40-43C, Temp1. 75C, Core "around 22-24C" .. what is Temp1 ? |
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| 00:28.26 | Magui | crap...am I in the wrong room? I'm actually using debian testing. I didn't realize there's a separate chatroom for that. |
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| 00:28.49 | Magui | oh...invite only...never mind:). |
| 00:29.03 | Tris0mi | temp1 is constant, never change |
| 00:29.04 | simonlnu | Magui: oftc ;) |
| 00:29.34 | Magui | simonlnu: oh! yeah, I wasn't reading closely enough. ummm...is that oftc.net ? I can't remember. |
| 00:29.36 | simonlnu | Tris0mi: check the fans, the outlet vents on the case, clean all those, check everything |
| 00:29.37 | seeker7 | how about guidance on a change resolution problem |
| 00:29.48 | simonlnu | Magui: /topic |
| 00:29.48 | LtL | Tris0mi: consult speedfan help file |
| 00:30.10 | seeker7 | and need a java plugin installed sun-java6-jre and did not solve issue with a website |
| 00:30.21 | Tris0mi | did i forgot to mention im using Amd 64 3700+ laptop |
| 00:30.27 | simonlnu | seeker7: that isn't a plugin |
| 00:30.36 | simonlnu | !java plugin |
| 00:30.36 | dpkg | For the Java web browser plugin, install the icedtea6-plugin (squeeze) or icedtea-plugin (wheezy) package. For other Java programs, install the default-jre to get the default or manually select one of openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre yourself. The old sun-java6-* packages are best avoided as Oracle now forbids Debian providing any security updates to them. See also <java alternatives>. |
| 00:30.58 | seeker7 | simonlnu: thank you |
| 00:31.05 | Tris0mi | actually opened comp today and made a quick clean, but will do it again |
| 00:31.05 | simonlnu | np |
| 00:31.25 | rdonx | I have a tricky situation. I have a camera with ethernet that plugs into a router, and then users can go to the camera's IP to view the images. What I want to do is to connect the camera to a laptop with debian on it. The laptop will need to treat its ethernet port as a router, while using its wifi to connect to the rest of the network |
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| 00:32.47 | rdonx | Wondering how to go about doing this |
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| 00:33.18 | rdonx | And if it's possible to run the wifi and ethernet as two separate things |
| 00:34.01 | civillian | rdonx: your question is ambiguous |
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| 00:34.52 | rdonx | The ethernet port and wifi are two separate cards |
| 00:35.16 | rdonx | I assume the wording I want to ask, is if it's possible to have debian linux act as a bridge |
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| 00:35.44 | civillian | rdonx: Yes you can do bridging with Debian |
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| 00:36.05 | rdonx | doesn't really know what the specifics of "bridging" detail |
| 00:36.12 | rdonx | Or if it's the term I'm thinking of |
| 00:36.34 | civillian | rdonx: Bridging is about 'bridging' two ethernet segments together. |
| 00:36.52 | seeker7 | simonlnu: do you have a thought on why when i unlock or reboot for that matter the bottom of screen is cut off |
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| 00:38.47 | zaltekk | how can i install phpMyAdmin without installing apache? |
| 00:38.47 | rdonx | civillian: will I need to install any extra tools? |
| 00:38.59 | rdonx | Or will it all consist of editing the eth0 config file? |
| 00:39.04 | zaltekk | apt-get install phpmyadmin attempts to install apache even though i already have nginx installed |
| 00:39.13 | civillian | rdonx: bridge-utils is a requirement really |
| 00:39.32 | civillian | rdonx: that will allow you to setup a bridge interface and bind real interfaces to it |
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| 00:40.12 | rdonx | Thanks |
| 00:40.24 | civillian | rdonx: no probs |
| 00:41.04 | rdonx | Time to get to work |
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| 00:41.10 | clone_of_saturn | my locale is set to en_US.UTF-8 but gnome-terminal still defaults to ANSIX3.4-1968. any ideas? |
| 00:42.23 | zaltekk | any ideas how to get around this limitation? |
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| 00:43.00 | engla | zaltekk: disable recommends? |
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| 00:43.25 | zaltekk | i don't think it was in recommends...i think it's not seeing php |
| 00:43.29 | zaltekk | let me double check |
| 00:43.42 | vbrummond | clone_of_saturn: you mean such in Terminal: set char encoding? Perhaps remove all of them except utf-8? |
| 00:44.14 | zaltekk | nope, they aren't listed as suggested |
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| 00:44.59 | zaltekk | engla: with --no-install-recommends it sitll requires apache |
| 00:45.31 | clone_of_saturn | vbrummond: it doesn't allow removing the default locale |
| 00:45.40 | zykotick9 | zaltekk: i believe there must be a way to do what you want (though i don't know it) -- check the output of "apt-cache depends phpmyadmin" |
| 00:45.42 | engla | zaltekk: hm, it's listed in recommends |
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| 00:45.59 | vbrummond | clone_of_saturn: what is the output of: cat /etc/default/locale |
| 00:46.05 | clone_of_saturn | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 00:46.13 | vbrummond | darn, then im not sure :/ sorry |
| 00:46.14 | zaltekk | engla: the only thing i can think of is that it doesn't see php5-cgi installed |
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| 00:46.59 | vbrummond | only thing i can think of is somehow gdm login screen is still using ansi :/ |
| 00:47.07 | engla | clone_of_saturn: what does `locale` output and is your needed locale in `locale -a` ? |
| 00:47.28 | VZ2iCarly | anyone know where to download debian 6 squeeze dvd all at same time |
| 00:47.35 | clone_of_saturn | `locale` says everything is "C" |
| 00:48.05 | clone_of_saturn | `locale -a` has C, POSIX, en_US.utf8 |
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| 00:48.58 | VZ2iCarly | anyone know where to download debian 6 squeeze dvd all at same time |
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| 00:49.45 | vbrummond | VZ2iCarly: same time? probably best to just download a torrent of them |
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| 00:50.06 | VZ2iCarly | thanks ill try that |
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| 00:51.13 | vbrummond | perhaps i should have mentioned jigdo, but im not sure if it would do any better than a torrent |
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| 00:52.10 | clone_of_saturn | engla: any idea? |
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| 00:52.25 | engla | clone_of_saturn: something is setting LANG back to C? depends on how you log in |
| 00:52.49 | engla | clone_of_saturn: check which env variables are defined, if LC_ALL or LANG is |
| 00:53.29 | vbrummond | my `locale -a` states C and then my locales in order, followed by posix, and my gnome terminal defaults to utf-8 |
| 00:53.31 | clone_of_saturn | i see... somehow $LANG=C |
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| 00:53.53 | engla | vbrummond: those are all generated locales (valid to use) |
| 00:54.35 | clone_of_saturn | grep LANG ~/.[^.]* gives nothing |
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| 01:07.13 | gnude1 | hello, i am a admin in a comercial company. who is interested in what happend to my and the debian i manage: http://experienceswithdebian.blogspot.com/ |
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| 01:10.35 | ws2k3 | how can i configure my apache2 that it allways remove www. ? |
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| 01:12.56 | LtL | gnude1: very nice blog |
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| 01:13.18 | gnude1 | ltl: i wrote down the solutions i found during work ..... |
| 01:13.24 | gnude1 | maybe somebody is interested in it... |
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| 01:14.37 | zaltekk | okay guys...still having an issue with phpmyadmin installation. i'm using php5-suhosin from dotdeb.org's repository, and phpmyadmin depends on modphp/php5-cgi/php5-cli....any way to ignore this one dependency? |
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| 01:15.04 | zaltekk | i manually installed the needed packages, but that leaves me with apt-get wanting me to fix the mixing dependency |
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| 01:16.07 | LtL | gnude1: nice work, it's appreciated, perhaps you should submit bug reports! |
| 01:16.42 | simonlnu | looks cool, some newbie stuff, and more advanced stuff. a+ gnude1 |
| 01:17.02 | gnude1 | good idea. |
| 01:17.11 | sfnick | I'm playing with Debian Wheezy and when I tried to install Firefox from the Mozilla tarball, it won't run it just says "No such file or directory". What has changed to keep Firefox from running in Wheezy? |
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| 01:17.35 | civillian | sfnick: try iceweasel |
| 01:17.58 | engla | sfnick: maybe it's not multiarch/lib compatible |
| 01:18.45 | gnude1 | ok. go to bed now.... |
| 01:18.57 | gnude1 | nice evening/day/morning, wherever you are |
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| 01:19.26 | LtL | gnude1: thanks night to you |
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| 01:21.53 | vbrummond | iceweasel is 100% firefox, yes sir |
| 01:22.42 | civillian | vbrummond: 99% |
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| 01:23.16 | vbrummond | 99.9999% |
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| 01:24.44 | sfnick | engla: I would have thought the lack of multiarch support would make it complain about missing libs, not say that the executable itself doesn't exist (it does exist and is executable) |
| 01:26.00 | sfnick | I believe iceweasel is very close to rebranded firefox, but tends to lag behind. Even in testing, Iceweasel is based on Firefox 9 when Firefox 10 is out |
| 01:26.06 | engla | sfnick: check where it is, what it does, and if it delegates to an executable inside /usr/lib |
| 01:26.20 | engla | sfnick: well that's testing. 10 is in unstable. |
| 01:26.50 | vbrummond | whats wrong with using 9 for a few days :P |
| 01:27.04 | engla | what's new in 10 ? |
| 01:27.30 | vbrummond | i have iceweasel 10.0.2 in squeeze, take the SNS sufferers ;) |
| 01:27.36 | vbrummond | that* |
| 01:27.52 | dvs | sfnick: have you tried mozilla.debian.net? |
| 01:27.59 | engla | vbrummond: then sfnick should be your buddy |
| 01:28.25 | vbrummond | im not sure what that means so ill disregard it |
| 01:28.40 | engla | ok |
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| 01:29.43 | vbrummond | though in answer to the original question it might be helpful to know some info.. 32/64-bit system? 32-bit/64-bit firefox? where is it unpacked to? |
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| 01:32.56 | sfnick | Hmm, it is a 64-bit system... |
| 01:33.56 | sfnick | Does Mozilla have 64-bit executables, or are they all 32-bit? |
| 01:34.32 | vbrummond | probably 32-bit if you didnt get one for 64-bit specifically |
| 01:34.42 | dvs | sfnick: have you tried mozilla.debian.net? |
| 01:34.46 | dvs | again |
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| 01:35.11 | vbrummond | well, my system is 32-bit, but firefox from the tar works (up-to-date sid) |
| 01:35.17 | dvs | or must it be Firefox? |
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| 01:36.32 | engla | sfnick: they have 64-bit |
| 01:36.34 | OldParr | is on repos any tool that creates a live usb with an iso image |
| 01:36.37 | OldParr | ? |
| 01:36.50 | sfnick | dvs: mozilla.debian.net doesn't seem to have anything to do with running an official Mozilla Firefox version. |
| 01:37.04 | vbrummond | OldParr: easiest to just use dd from the command line |
| 01:37.16 | vbrummond | OldParr: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb |
| 01:37.17 | engla | sfnick: don't know if it's supported but take the links from http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html and change linux to linux64 in the URL |
| 01:37.35 | OldParr | vbrummond: will it use an iso file? |
| 01:38.09 | vbrummond | OldParr: it is the correct method; just be aware to use the correct device names to ensure you do not delete data! |
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| 01:38.11 | sfnick | engla: That is interesting. I wonder why they don't list or automatically offer 64-bit versions. |
| 01:39.01 | engla | sfnick: well I'm wondering if I'm hallucinating or why I hit the linux64 URL hack on the first try and the downloaded tar is actually full of 64-bit code |
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| 01:40.05 | sfnick | I could try one of those, but it seems odd that a 32 bit version would result in "No such file or directory" |
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| 01:45.10 | styler | hi.. how can i get debian to use localtime instead of UTC? |
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| 01:47.51 | sfnick | It is the error message that seems really odd to me: |
| 01:48.12 | sfnick | user@debian:~$ /home/user/bin/firefox/firefox |
| 01:48.14 | sfnick | bash: /home/user/bin/firefox/firefox: No such file or directory |
| 01:49.17 | dvs | styler: what does "cat /etc/timezone" say? |
| 01:49.18 | sfnick | user@debian:~$ ls -l /home/user/bin/firefox/firefox |
| 01:49.20 | sfnick | -rwxr-xr-x 1 user user 55652 Feb 16 02:34 /home/user/bin/firefox/firefox |
| 01:49.50 | sfnick | So the file is there, but when I try to run it I get a message that says it isn't. |
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| 01:50.47 | engla | sfnick: set -x maybe (set +x to disable) |
| 01:51.05 | engla | sfnick: isn't the main exec. a shell script? no? |
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| 01:52.41 | vbrummond | styler: Set UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS perhaps? |
| 01:55.13 | vbrummond | sfnick: works for me if I do: cd /path/to/firefox_folder then I run: ./firefox |
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| 01:57.41 | nsadmin | styler, note that if you do that, that timezone will be used everywhere and there will be no opportunity for some user to have a different timezone (altho having said that, it should be really simple to add that feature to the system... it would require a single addition and probably some ifs) |
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| 02:03.45 | simonlnu | just sticks a symlink into a system-wide bin dir in PATH |
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| 02:09.27 | sje46_ | I don't understand how to apt-get install flashplayer |
| 02:09.41 | meLon | How can I disable messages such as " |
| 02:09.55 | meLon | How can I disable messages such as "Message from syslogd..." from spamming my terminals? |
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| 02:10.26 | vbrummond | sje46_: if you have non-free enabled simply do: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:10.26 | zykotick9 | sje46_: are you wanting adobe flash? verifiy you have contrib in your sources.list, then install the package flashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:10.36 | vbrummond | oh its in contrib? my bad :| |
| 02:11.07 | OldParr | vbrummond: i thougt the dd command was prehistoric and no longer used |
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| 02:11.47 | vbrummond | OldParr: prehistoric? I use it daily :P |
| 02:12.19 | OldParr | vbrummond: is there any newer choice ? |
| 02:12.44 | vbrummond | OldParr: why do you need a newer choice when what you seek is so easily obtained by a single command? |
| 02:13.15 | OldParr | vbrummond: well, let's get classic |
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| 02:14.24 | styler | vbrummond: that did not seem to work |
| 02:14.29 | vbrummond | As far as I know there is no other/easier 'clean' way to do this. The Debian isos support being booted from usb when directly copied to a flash drive. However if you use a graphical tool such as unetbootin it writes its own grub like menu that doesnt clearly mark the debian boot options |
| 02:14.44 | vbrummond | styler: did you reboot? |
| 02:14.48 | sje46_ | thanks for your help! |
| 02:14.51 | styler | vbrummond: yes |
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| 02:15.12 | vbrummond | i checked a few sources that pointed to doing that; I though dpkg-reconfigure tzdata would do it, but it didnt |
| 02:15.15 | styler | dvs: it says "America/New_York |
| 02:15.23 | styler | yeh i thought same |
| 02:15.48 | rdonx | I'm having some trouble getting the wifi setup on my debian laptop |
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| 02:21.37 | rdonx | Firstly, I use WPA2, and am using the network interfaces config as shown here: |
| 02:21.38 | rdonx | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-wpa-wpa2-wireless-wifi-networking/ (step 3) |
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| 02:21.57 | rdonx | [I've chmodded the file for security reasons] |
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| 02:22.21 | rdonx | Anyways, the kernel driver is ath5k |
| 02:22.37 | rdonx | and when I try to bring the wifi up it says "Unknown error 132" |
| 02:22.57 | rdonx | Looking at dmesg, the error is "wlan0: link is not ready" |
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| 02:28.39 | somiaj | rdonx: check demsg, do you notice any errors about that card? I know many wireless cards require firmware, (not sure about ath5k though) |
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| 02:29.17 | karlpinc | rdonx: I don't really know what I'm doing with wifi, but have successfully used wicd. However, this means that the interfaces managed by wicd should not be in the interfaces file. |
| 02:29.41 | karlpinc | rdonx: And you could start at the beginning by being sure you've the right driver, etc. |
| 02:29.44 | somiaj | rdonx: http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k#supported -- do an lspci make sure you device is on that list |
| 02:29.46 | karlpinc | !tell rdonx about pciid |
| 02:30.09 | somiaj | karlpinc: wireless networks are fairly easy to manage in the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 02:31.04 | karlpinc | somiaj: I always failed, but because I never succeeded I was never sure whether the hardware was actually working/supported. :-) Anyway, tried it once on a different box with wicd and it worked. I'd prefer to use the interfaces file though. |
| 02:31.30 | somiaj | rdonx: one thing I notice about that link you posted is it only talks about wpa networks, they use different commands if it is a wep network |
| 02:32.00 | somiaj | karlpinc: well his link in step #3 is about all you need to do, but instaed of using 'wlan0' assign that network an alias |
| 02:32.09 | somiaj | karlpinc: then it is just ifup wlan0=alais |
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| 02:32.51 | rdonx | The PCI ID of the ath5k card is 168c:001c |
| 02:33.05 | rdonx | http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k#supported |
| 02:33.07 | karlpinc | somiaj: One of these days I'll get back to it, but not now. (Both on the box that does work and the one that doesn't.) Meanwhile my brain is leaking right now. |
| 02:33.07 | rdonx | and it's supported |
| 02:33.26 | karlpinc | ,pciid 168c:001c |
| 02:33.27 | judd | [168c:001c] is 'AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)' from 'Atheros Communications Inc.' with kernel module 'ath5k' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:001c http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k |
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| 02:34.38 | karlpinc | rdonx: So ath5k is right. The kmuto link is a clue that you _might_ benefit from a newer kernel, say one from backports.debian.org. But like I said, I don't know what I'm doing and you'd be better off following somebody else's advice. |
| 02:34.46 | somiaj | rdonx: your interface entry is the same as the one in that guide (three lines?) You don't see any thing in dmesg about the device. |
| 02:34.57 | dakis | When will it end? When will the United States of America move beyond this obscene blemish in its short history? How many more must be violated? How many more relationships handicapped by the male's heavy psychological burden and by his sensual-sexual inadequacy? |
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| 02:35.04 | somiaj | rdonx: if you type 'ifconfig -a' do you see the wlan0 device there. |
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| 02:35.17 | rdonx | somiaj, the dmesg output is: |
| 02:35.49 | rdonx | ADDCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready |
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| 02:36.20 | rdonx | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready |
| 02:36.36 | rdonx | (forgot the R in the first one) |
| 02:37.41 | rdonx | The laptop has a wifi on/off button |
| 02:37.43 | somiaj | "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready, merely means what it says: the link is not up yet. The link will be up once wpa_supplicant negotiated the key." |
| 02:37.57 | somiaj | rdonx: what is the output if 'ifconfig -a' |
| 02:38.33 | rdonx | lists eth0, lo, and wlan0 |
| 02:38.54 | rdonx | wlan0 shows 0 data sent |
| 02:39.29 | rdonx | I don't have wpa_supplicant installed |
| 02:39.35 | somiaj | then that is your problem |
| 02:39.48 | somiaj | are you trying to connect to a wpa or a wep network? |
| 02:39.53 | rdonx | WPA2 |
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| 02:40.06 | somiaj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:40.30 | Lesterwood | guys, why don't you own firearms? |
| 02:40.47 | dvs | ???? |
| 02:40.49 | rdonx | I've seen people write it with an _ |
| 02:41.00 | rdonx | It's wpa_supplicant or wpasupplicant? |
| 02:41.26 | somiaj | the first is the binary name, the second is the package name. |
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| 02:44.26 | klys_ | lesterwood: at every instance of the use of firearms i've heard of, there was police involvement and heavy prison sentencing. |
| 02:44.36 | Lesterwood | sorry to hear that |
| 02:44.42 | karlpinc | klys_: Don't feed the trolls. |
| 02:45.20 | karlpinc | Lesterwood: This is a debian support channel. Please go elsewhere to chat. |
| 02:45.31 | Lesterwood | ok |
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| 02:46.15 | klys_ | so I have this android `zygote' java yet there is no java or javac. |
| 02:46.24 | rdonx | I have to restore the ethernet cable now so that I can download that package |
| 02:47.21 | klys_ | ~apk |
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| 02:47.40 | klys_ | ~android |
| 02:47.40 | apt | somebody said android was an Open Handset Alliance Project by Google or an alleged Open Source phone software stack that's really not open. http://code.google.com/android/, or if it's sometime actually freed, someone might port it on the neo, but the provided binaries are incompatible |
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| 02:48.07 | somiaj | rdonx: you can use packages.deban.org and copy it over via a usb thumb drive if that is easier |
| 02:48.16 | klys_ | that's because it's armel architecture |
| 02:48.31 | somiaj | klys_: /msg dpkg factoid |
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| 02:52.35 | rdonx | ok installed wpasupplicant |
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| 02:54.21 | somiaj | should just ifdown / ifup that interface and be golden |
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| 02:55.44 | rdonx | Okay |
| 02:55.54 | rdonx | Saw the wifi light flash |
| 02:56.02 | rdonx | Didn't see it do that before |
| 02:56.10 | rdonx | But - router ping still fails |
| 02:56.17 | rdonx | So I'm assuming the wpa-psk key part is wrong |
| 02:56.27 | somiaj | if you don't have the right key, then yes |
| 02:56.40 | somiaj | are you using a static or dhcp? |
| 02:56.46 | rdonx | static |
| 02:56.52 | rdonx | The static IP is setup okay |
| 02:57.00 | rdonx | It's just the password stuff |
| 02:57.27 | OldParr | is the procedure to create an iso file from a live cd to drag all the files on the live CD to iso master's image project? |
| 02:57.28 | trysten | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.30 | somiaj | yea, I use both on my wireless card. Why do you think the key is wrong though? |
| 02:57.47 | trysten | i'm getting the above error when i try to tab-complete a modprobe command |
| 02:58.04 | trysten | can anyone tell me how to get the module source into where it's supposed to be? |
| 02:58.12 | trysten | (the automagic way) |
| 02:58.22 | somiaj | trysten: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:58.28 | somiaj | trysten: i.e. big picture, not this small step |
| 02:58.56 | somiaj | OldParr: what do you want to do? Take the image from a live-cd and put it into an .iso file on your drive? |
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| 02:59.15 | trysten | simply use the tab-completion on the modprobe command. i'm not familiar with the autocomplete program |
| 02:59.54 | somiaj | trysten: well you are ttrying to modprobe a strange thing |
| 03:00.18 | somiaj | trysten: again makes me think you have some other goal. What module are you trying to get to work on your computer? What hardware is not working? |
| 03:00.25 | trysten | even if i just type sh# modprobe {TAB} |
| 03:00.26 | OldParr | somiaj: yes |
| 03:00.39 | trysten | hehehe somiaj nice deduction. just about all of it. |
| 03:00.40 | OldParr | somiaj: i want to create a bootable iso file |
| 03:00.51 | OldParr | from a live cd media |
| 03:01.02 | somiaj | trysten: also note that /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source is just a link that points to /usr/src/ |
| 03:01.05 | klys_ | trysten: make; make menuconfig; make bzImage |
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| 03:01.30 | somiaj | OldParr: do you want to build a custom live-image then? |
| 03:01.46 | somiaj | OldParr: or just copy the image you have on the current cd so you can burn it on another cd? |
| 03:01.52 | trysten | somiaj: actually, it points to a folder on my desktop -.- that is the problem maybe? |
| 03:01.58 | klys_ | trysten: that looks like a missing symlink |
| 03:02.14 | rdonx | Btw, the SSID is case sensitive right? |
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| 03:02.18 | somiaj | trysten: the source is not the modules, you are trying to modprobe something strange. |
| 03:02.32 | somiaj | rdonx: I belive so, and don't put quotes around it if it is more than one word |
| 03:02.33 | trysten | it's not missing, it goes to the source folder on my desktop. |
| 03:02.53 | somiaj | trysten: again step back, what module are you trying to build for your kernel? |
| 03:03.16 | trysten | i already have the modules build and running, it's just a problem with auto-complete |
| 03:03.26 | trysten | if i type modprobe TAB i get the same problem |
| 03:04.17 | somiaj | so if you type 'modprobe /<tab>' (tap it twice should give you list of /) |
| 03:04.19 | OldParr | somiaj: i want to create an image file to use it to create a bootable usb live |
| 03:04.30 | trysten | it goes as far as /lib/modules/3.2.2-hp/source/debian/linux-image-3.2.2-hp in the linux folder, but stops there. there is no modules folder |
| 03:04.56 | trysten | somiaj: the path listing works. |
| 03:05.13 | somiaj | OldParr: you don't create image files that way, the debian .iso images are hybrid and can be put on a cd or a usb |
| 03:05.29 | trysten | OldParr: you'll probably need syslinux. there are utilities that simplify startup disk creation. |
| 03:05.33 | somiaj | OldParr: if you want the image off the cd, you can just type 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/new.iso' |
| 03:05.53 | trysten | actually, that didn't work for me. but it's totally supposed to, it says so on the site. |
| 03:05.55 | somiaj | though it may be /dev/cdrom0 or whatnot on your system. |
| 03:06.24 | rdonx | wpa_passphrase <your_essid> <your_ascii_key> |
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| 03:06.29 | somiaj | trysten: well the problem then has nothing to do with modprobe, but with your shells tab completion. I know there was recentally a major update with bash tabcompletion in sid. What version are you running |
| 03:06.41 | rdonx | How to copy that result to /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 03:06.53 | trysten | i'm not sure >.< |
| 03:06.56 | somiaj | rdonx: step #3 on your link told you exactaly what to type |
| 03:07.07 | trysten | wheezy |
| 03:07.08 | OldParr | somiaj: i love using dd |
| 03:07.11 | rdonx | somiaj, I need to type in the key |
| 03:07.16 | rdonx | it's long |
| 03:07.33 | somiaj | rdonx: if you want you can put a copy of your /etc/network/interfaces (or just the wlan0 part) on a pastebin and black out the actual ssid and password and I'll check for syntax |
| 03:07.56 | somiaj | rdonx: it is just as #3 in your link says, 'wpa-ssid <ssid>' and 'wpa-psk <password>' |
| 03:08.07 | rdonx | somiaj, the problem I have now is that wpa-psk requires the hex password |
| 03:08.23 | rdonx | So I use wpa_passphrase to calculate it for me |
| 03:08.28 | rdonx | thing is, it outputs to the console |
| 03:08.38 | somiaj | rdonx: hex passwords are not wpa, this is wep |
| 03:08.43 | rdonx | and I don't know how to copy/paste console text to vi other than outputting to a file |
| 03:08.48 | somiaj | rdonx: are you using wpa or wep on this network |
| 03:08.55 | rdonx | wpa2 |
| 03:09.11 | somiaj | rdonx: if you have screen it has methos to copy and paste with arrorw |
| 03:09.12 | trysten | rdonx: use the primary buffer. highlight the text to put it in the buffer, then press MOUSE2 to paste it somehwere else |
| 03:09.14 | rdonx | wpa2 phrases are encoded |
| 03:09.33 | somiaj | rdonx: keys, you can install gpm and get a mouse in the console (then select copys, middle mouse button pastes) |
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| 03:10.05 | rdonx | I'll just output the text to a file ... |
| 03:10.11 | rdonx | and then import the file in vi |
| 03:10.19 | rdonx | within /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:10.42 | somiaj | trysten: check the bugreports on bash tab completion, the package is 'bash-completion' if you are using the bash shell |
| 03:11.14 | rdonx | Nvm, vi has the !! command |
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| 03:12.18 | Maccer | Uhh 'scuse me, I can't find the debian package or headers for the c mysql headers (mysql.h), can some one help me track them down? |
| 03:12.49 | somiaj | Maccer: all header files (thus development packages) have a -dev |
| 03:12.52 | jetscreamer | -dev |
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| 03:12.56 | tdrusk | My fan seems to run a significant amount, even though my laptop isn't hot. It is currently at 48 deg cel. |
| 03:13.10 | tdrusk | How to fix? |
| 03:13.13 | somiaj | Maccer: so look for something like mysql-dev or libmysql-dev (you can also use apt-file or packages.debian.org to look for a package that contains file foo) |
| 03:13.30 | Maccer | Yeah yeah, I've been looking, but I can't seem to find the right -dev for it. |
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| 03:13.48 | civillian | tdrusk: 48C is fairly warm, sounds like the fan is doing it's job |
| 03:13.52 | jetscreamer | !apt-file |
| 03:13.53 | dpkg | apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me about <pdo>. See also <auto-apt>, <dlocate>. |
| 03:13.55 | OldParr | can i create a live usb like this? dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/sda |
| 03:14.23 | somiaj | OldParr: there is no guarntee that the image on the cdrom can be booted off the cd. If it is a hybrid image then sure |
| 03:14.39 | somiaj | OldParr: sorry mean booted off a usb |
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| 03:15.27 | engla | OldParr: double check that /dev/sda is the right device too |
| 03:16.17 | klys | OldParr: you don't want el torito to mount a thumb drive |
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| 03:17.30 | klys | OldParr: simply install grub to your usb device. |
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| 03:17.44 | Maccer | Well then, mysql is such a data hog... just need those damn headers though. |
| 03:17.57 | OldParr | klys: i want a live usb |
| 03:18.26 | jetscreamer | apt-get install apt-file && apt-file search mysql | grep -i dev or something |
| 03:18.39 | jetscreamer | d/l the live usb image from the live site |
| 03:18.58 | jetscreamer | use the non-hybrid |
| 03:19.24 | klys | OldParr: mount -o loop -t vfat /cdrom/boot/image.bin /mnt |
| 03:19.27 | jetscreamer | or grep -i .h |
| 03:20.04 | klys | I don't know if the image.bin is part of the cdrom mount, but it should be accessible somewhere |
| 03:20.06 | jetscreamer | or use pdo |
| 03:20.17 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 03:20.17 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for Debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/ in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 03:21.30 | trysten | thanks somiaj |
| 03:21.34 | klys | mkisofs offers an option to put it into the image. |
| 03:22.09 | klys | ...which is why your CD is bootable at all. |
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| 03:26.52 | rdonx | I can't ping 192.168.1.1 at all |
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| 03:27.34 | rdonx | wifi def works now since I see the light going on/off |
| 03:27.42 | rdonx | How to check where it gets halted in the process |
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| 03:28.10 | streuner__ | thats a very good question |
| 03:28.11 | rdonx | Sudo iwconfig says "Encryption key:off"? |
| 03:28.22 | streuner__ | hm, thats wrong |
| 03:28.22 | somiaj | rdonx: it still sounds like a password issue, how many letters are in your in your hex passcode -- I think that is where your issue is |
| 03:28.28 | rdonx | But shows the correct SSID |
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| 03:29.21 | streuner | rdonx: also, are you sure you made the right entry in your router about the MAC? |
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| 03:29.59 | rdonx | streuner: MAC filtering is off |
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| 03:30.22 | OldParr | it does not boots |
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| 03:30.56 | klys | OldParr: mount /cdrom |
| 03:31.20 | OldParr | klys: is mounted |
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| 03:31.34 | klys | OldParr: join #flood |
| 03:31.45 | somiaj | OldParr: any reason you cannot just download a hybrid debian-live iso and use that? |
| 03:32.14 | rdonx | it looks like I might need to put the key in wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 03:32.17 | rdonx | *sigh* |
| 03:32.32 | vbrummond | Arent all Debian images fully able to copy to a usb device? |
| 03:32.34 | OldParr | i have a live DVD i don't know if it is hybrid |
| 03:32.40 | Maccer | Is there a way I can get a package from Wheezy using Squeeze temporarily? For some reason, lighttpd 1.4.30 wasn't included in Squeeze even though it came out before its release. |
| 03:32.54 | somiaj | vbrummond: correct, he is trying to grab the image off of some random live dvd. |
| 03:33.09 | streuner | Maccer: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 03:34.10 | streuner | !test |
| 03:34.11 | dpkg | Test failed. |
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| 03:34.53 | klys | streuner: hi |
| 03:35.06 | streuner | hello |
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| 03:37.07 | klys | streuner: have you seen my nick in early 2008 / late 2007 ? |
| 03:38.36 | klys | OldParr: apt-get install grub; man grub-install |
| 03:40.22 | OldParr | klys: i need a desktop |
| 03:40.46 | rdonx | When I do sudo program >> output.txt |
| 03:40.50 | klys | ~grub |
| 03:40.50 | apt | [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed internet crawler. |
| 03:40.59 | rdonx | The sudo is applied to the program only? How to apply sudo to the >> as well? |
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| 03:41.56 | somiaj | rdonx: run it all in a shell, sudo sh -c 'foo' |
| 03:41.57 | engla | rdonx: file redirection is performed by the shell, so the strict answer to your question is that the shell must be run as root as well. You can use something like program | sudo tee -a output.txt to append to a file |
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| 03:42.12 | rdonx | ahhh |
| 03:42.19 | somiaj | rdonx: but depending on what you need to do there are different ways to go about it |
| 03:42.26 | rdonx | I just stored to /tmp/ |
| 03:42.30 | rdonx | then mv'd it |
| 03:42.32 | OldParr | klys: thanks, i need to go |
| 03:42.40 | rdonx | was trying to write it directly to /etc/ |
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| 03:43.14 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 03:43.20 | lenswipe | is it possible to get less for debian? |
| 03:43.27 | lenswipe | specifically squeeze |
| 03:43.33 | streuner | lenswipe: just install it? |
| 03:43.39 | lenswipe | sweet |
| 03:43.40 | lenswipe | how |
| 03:43.43 | streuner | judd, versions less |
| 03:43.44 | judd | Package: less on i386 -- lenny: 418-1; squeeze: 436-1; sid: 444-2; wheezy: 444-2 |
| 03:43.55 | lenswipe | funny |
| 03:43.57 | streuner | lenswipe: aptitude install less ? :-) |
| 03:44.00 | lenswipe | the repos cant seem to find it O_O |
| 03:44.09 | lenswipe | oh wait sorry |
| 03:44.17 | lenswipe | lol i didnt mean less like command line less |
| 03:44.22 | lenswipe | i meant less like lesscss |
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| 03:46.45 | streuner | dpkg, lesscss |
| 03:46.46 | dpkg | streuner: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 03:46.52 | streuner | hm, a bad sign then |
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| 03:49.29 | samba35 | on guest on am getting -----my wan gateway address ? (123.123.123.123)at incomplete on eth1.40 (this is vlan assign to wan ) i have static ip on wan interface |
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| 03:49.57 | samba35 | i am using 2 bridges ,something wrong with mac address ? what changes i have make in mac address |
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| 03:50.03 | samba35 | using kvm |
| 03:50.45 | lenswipe | samba35, you might want #networking |
| 03:50.47 | streuner | lenswipe: seems to me important - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587363 |
| 03:51.07 | samba35 | ok |
| 03:51.24 | Armageddon | is there a way to get hybrid cards working on testing ? |
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| 03:52.13 | somiaj | Armageddon: what card? Debian wiki usually has good info regarding hardware (though it is sometimes incpomlete for things that are very new and may nonly work in testing/unstable) |
| 03:52.32 | Armageddon | one intel and the other one is amd |
| 03:53.07 | somiaj | oh so they sandybridge cpus then? |
| 03:53.15 | lenswipe | straterra, that tells me that someone else other than me wants to use lesscss on debian |
| 03:53.21 | lenswipe | it doesnt tell me how i can get it working >: { |
| 03:53.56 | Armageddon | somiaj, laptop with a hybrid graphic card, if you want to call it sandybridge call it that but in the kernel it's called hybrid :p |
| 03:54.41 | somiaj | Armageddon: well current kernels xorg support the sandybridge gpu just fine (not sure about the amd fusion or what ever its called) |
| 03:55.10 | somiaj | Armageddon: though last I checked there was no linux support for the dual graphics card (say sandybridge + nvidia mobil card) you could get the sandy bridge to work but not the nvidia. |
| 03:55.14 | Armageddon | alright, how about HDMI audio ? |
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| 03:55.27 | engla | there are other hybrid than sandybridge |
| 03:55.40 | Armageddon | engla, that's what I said :p |
| 03:55.41 | somiaj | no experience, but hdmi audio works just fine with my nvidia and my radeon card. |
| 03:55.58 | Armageddon | doesn't seem to work on the laptop in here |
| 03:56.06 | Armageddon | HDMI works fine, no audio ! |
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| 03:56.16 | somiaj | engla: well is there a generic driver, or is it going to be a chip per chip support issue. |
| 03:56.35 | somiaj | Armageddon: cat /proc/asound/cards -- do you see an audio device/card for HDMI? |
| 03:56.49 | somiaj | engla: that was a question, as I like to learn new things. (: |
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| 03:57.21 | Armageddon | somiaj, aplay -l shows it so yes |
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| 03:58.20 | somiaj | Armageddon: have you tried to use aplay to play to that sound card directally and checked its settings via alsamixer |
| 03:58.41 | Armageddon | somiaj, and there has been a support for hybrid card since the beginning of 3.0.0 kernels (Gentoo user here) |
| 03:59.01 | Armageddon | unfortunately alsaconf got deprecated from debian for some reason |
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| 04:00.08 | engla | somiaj: I don't know. I avoided double graphics card laptops |
| 04:00.50 | Armageddon | somiaj, aplay -l shows more than one, /proc/asound/cards shows more than one |
| 04:01.44 | somiaj | Armageddon: I'd figure out which sound card it is, check alsamixer -c <cardnumber> and then aplay can play to the sound card directally. You can configure the default sound card and the likes with .asoundrc, though have to be a little careful with dmix |
| 04:02.05 | somiaj | Armageddon: I personally hope for a nicer way to deal with alsa and multiple sound cards. |
| 04:02.08 | tdnrad | I am using rdesktop to log in to my windows desktop at work. After logging in on the windows machine, it shows the explorer shell for a fraction of a second, then it gives me a KDM login screen. I'm confused. Where is this screen coming from? |
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| 04:02.35 | somiaj | engla: I'm the same way, though I'm mostly a desktop user so to me I have no desire for a powerful graphics card in a laptop. |
| 04:02.49 | gnarface | somiaj, Armageddon its easier to control the default sound card at the module load time with the index=[integer] option |
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| 04:03.26 | Armageddon | somiaj, I use pulse on top of alsa woth pavucontrol very easy to use but a friend of mine has debian on his laptop I'm trying to help him |
| 04:03.31 | Armageddon | gnarface, can you please elaborate more ? |
| 04:04.33 | somiaj | gnarface: any tips on changing default cards once running. Only issue I have is when pcm.!default { foo } to change the default sound card I loose dmix and haven't found a nice way to keep it (my .asoundrc foo is bad) |
| 04:04.48 | Armageddon | somiaj, I just gave you a solution |
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| 04:05.07 | somiaj | i.e. I like to change the sound card to hdmi when I plug my laptop into a tv, but I loose dmix |
| 04:05.12 | qwaz | équit |
| 04:05.19 | somiaj | Armageddon: I don't want to run pulseaudio. Just another thing I have to learn to support. |
| 04:05.30 | Armageddon | I thought debian runs pulse by default ! |
| 04:05.36 | simonlnu | no |
| 04:05.57 | Armageddon | it doesn't out of the box ? |
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| 04:06.06 | somiaj | I haven't looked into pulse, but it just seems like a more modern sound daemon, and I never liked that model. |
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| 04:06.21 | somiaj | Armageddon: nope, you can use it if you like, but it isn't installed by default. Nor do I want to use it. |
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| 04:07.47 | Armageddon | labneh, I started asking about your problem, so far gnarface gave me a partial answer |
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| 04:09.52 | somiaj | Armageddon: there are various ways to change the default card, though my suggestion is first use 'aplay -D device' to get the sound playing |
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| 04:10.20 | somiaj | Armageddon: once you do that, you can change the default device, I'd look at gnarface suggestion for that. |
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| 04:11.37 | streuner | lenswipe: you surely saw this before - http://packages.debian.org/de/sid/libnode-less , but i have no idea how to use it in squeeze |
| 04:11.44 | labneh | Armageddon: thx, gnarface, debian 6.0.4, kernel 3.2.0-1-amd64, having some problems with the HDMI card, video works good, with the intel HD built in, but no audio, so far tried playing with a .asoundrc, alsamixer, and pavucontrol --no luck |
| 04:11.50 | lenswipe | you cant install it |
| 04:11.52 | lenswipe | :( |
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| 04:12.13 | streuner | of course, the packages are there, but in squeeze |
| 04:12.20 | streuner | NOT* |
| 04:12.30 | Armageddon | labneh, turns out debian does not have pulseaudio by default that's probably why pavu did not work |
| 04:12.41 | kulug | hi. after I installed debian wheezy then I installed gnome-shell (apt-get install gnome-shell) and after about 150MB of download instal finished. but nothing showed up. and "gnome-shell --replace " says that unable to open X. and when I run X just a black screen come up in F7 area. what did I wrong? should I install a windows manager like gdm or loghtdm or gnome-shell will install then? |
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| 04:13.09 | streuner | kulug: aptitude install xorg ? |
| 04:14.06 | streuner | besides, GNOME3 installs pulseaudio by default, sadly, but true |
| 04:15.06 | kulug | streuner: no I don't installed xorg by command but I can run X is xorg different than X? |
| 04:15.39 | streuner | dpkg, xorg |
| 04:15.40 | dpkg | X.Org X11 is the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2 and first included in Debian <Etch>. The release packaged for Squeeze is X11R7.5. To install, ask me about <install x>. To configure, ask me about <xorg config>. To remove, ask about <remove x>. Backports for Squeeze are available, ask about <bdo xorg>. http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQ #xorg on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 04:16.27 | kulug | I just installed xorg but nothing happend! |
| 04:16.28 | gnarface | somiaj, Armageddon yea that's easy. what i'd do is create a file in /etc/modprobe.d for my sound card options and set index=0 on the one i wanted to be the default, and index=1 on the one i wanted to be the secondary, then just unload and reload the modules |
| 04:16.32 | kulug | install X |
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| 04:16.50 | kulug | install, X |
| 04:17.01 | kulug | dpkg, install X |
| 04:17.01 | dpkg | To install X in Debian Lenny and later releases: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To configure your X server, ask me about <xorg config>. |
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| 04:17.17 | kulug | dpkg, install gnome-shell |
| 04:17.17 | dpkg | kulug: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 04:17.36 | kulug | dpkg: no :) |
| 04:17.36 | dpkg | wish i knew, kulug |
| 04:17.42 | gnarface | somiaj, Armageddon by default the index=[N] option on audio modules is set in whatever order the cards BIOSes post in, which means usually the onboard one will always be before add-on ones. |
| 04:18.01 | kulug | dpkg, install windows manager |
| 04:18.02 | dpkg | kulug: are you using Windows? |
| 04:18.10 | kulug | dpkg: no |
| 04:18.10 | dpkg | No Offense, or den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users. |
| 04:18.18 | somiaj | but that can change every boot, though I think there ways to control the order the modules are loaded. |
| 04:18.19 | kulug | dpkg, windows manager |
| 04:18.20 | dpkg | It's called a "window manager". |
| 04:18.25 | kulug | dpkg, window manager |
| 04:18.25 | dpkg | A window manager is a special application class which decorates and manages windows for the X server. To list available window managers in your system, run "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager". Not to be confused with a desktop environment such as <GNOME> or <KDE>. To set your system-wide default window manager, use "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager". For a guide to available window managers, see http://xwinman.org/ |
| 04:18.29 | rdonx | Okay got wifi finally working - I think it's because I added the wext driver line |
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| 04:18.40 | gnarface | somiaj, Armageddon, alsa will always use the first one (the one you set index=0 on or aka alsamixer -c 0) as the default card |
| 04:18.44 | streuner | kulug, /msg dpkg <factoid> would work too... |
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| 04:19.08 | kulug | streuner: pardon me? |
| 04:19.09 | jvogel | hey, are "testing" and "wheezy" synonomous in /apt/sources.list |
| 04:19.19 | kulug | yes |
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| 04:19.23 | jvogel | cool thanks |
| 04:19.44 | kulug | but wheezy should be used for more security update or something |
| 04:19.47 | somiaj | jvogel: the slight difference is when wheezy stablizeis it will no longer be called testing |
| 04:19.55 | rdonx | Final part that I need to accomplish: Is it possible to mount one single device under eth0 using a CAT5 cable? |
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| 04:20.16 | jvogel | if you had wheezy instead of testing, when wheezy went to stable you'd still be on it? |
| 04:20.17 | jvogel | basically |
| 04:20.20 | somiaj | no using wheezy over testing just meanst hat when wheezy stabalizes and a new testing is created you don't automitcally swithc to the new testing branch. |
| 04:20.21 | gnarface | somiaj, Armageddon and there's a lot of dated information out there on ~/.asoundrc and most of it wasn't very accurate even when it was up-to-date. for starters dmix is enabled by default on "default" (which is also there by default always now too) so if that's all your ~/.asoundrc was for - its probably harmful |
| 04:20.24 | rdonx | Initially I was thinking to do a bridge, but, I don't need the ethernet to access the wlan |
| 04:20.24 | somiaj | testing is a link tha tgets changed. |
| 04:20.42 | jvogel | I'm cool with that |
| 04:20.45 | jvogel | I want to always be in testing |
| 04:21.18 | somiaj | gnarface: yea I know all that, the issue I have is if you use .asoundrc to change the default sound card dmix is then disabled. Though I'd prefer a different way to change the default card than unloading/reloading modules. |
| 04:21.53 | gnarface | somiaj: i'd prefer a lot was different about alsa. i'm not telling anyone i like it, just how i got it working. |
| 04:21.55 | somiaj | jvogel: your call, (: |
| 04:22.10 | jvogel | of course ! |
| 04:22.14 | somiaj | gnarface: thanks, I never looked into configuring the modules directally. (: |
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| 04:22.14 | jvogel | otherwise I'd use stable now |
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| 04:22.47 | gnarface | labneh: i didn't realize that was a question for you too - did you see my responses to somiaj and Armageddon? |
| 04:23.11 | Armageddon | gnarface, actually it was my question initially but I would prefer to let him install pulse and use pavucontrol |
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| 04:24.05 | n0yd | Anyone know what I need to fix this, so it will compile? http://pastebin.com/Lazeeqva |
| 04:24.18 | n0yd | I installed libsane-dev, and libsane-extra-dev |
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| 04:24.53 | bambanx | babilen on? |
| 04:24.55 | labneh | Armageddon: gnarface, which package pulse is in ? there is a few, as of pulseaudio it's already installed and pavucontrol still has no effect on the settings |
| 04:25.41 | gnarface | labneh: sorry i got nothing on pulse audio, it never worked for me |
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| 04:26.08 | Armageddon | gnarface, it was already installed with debian :/ |
| 04:26.09 | bambanx | guys i have a big problem when i enter i log , it back again to the same windows for login and it say some about edit /etc/defalt/saned ..., what can i do =( ? |
| 04:26.35 | gnarface | Armageddon: the fact it got installed may be why his alsa isn't working. alsa and pulse audio don't really play nicely under default configuration |
| 04:27.03 | Armageddon | gnarface, I never installed pulse, it was already installed before |
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| 04:27.31 | Marezz | Hi guys, I cant mount my 2nd HDD I get this: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on / mount failed |
| 04:27.42 | n0yd | anyone lknow what abaton is? or libabaton? |
| 04:27.50 | Armageddon | gnarface, aplay -l shows 3 interfaces /proc/asound/cards shows 1, is that normal ? |
| 04:27.53 | n0yd | it appears that it whats needed for this compile |
| 04:28.17 | gnarface | Armageddon: yes, look carefully at what aplay outputs, those are sub-devices on the card |
| 04:28.34 | Armageddon | gnarface, alright then what ? |
| 04:29.08 | klys | Marezz: look into /proc/mounts |
| 04:29.23 | gnarface | Armageddon: then what, to get alsa working you mean? first you have to uninstall pulse audio, as far as i know. |
| 04:29.50 | gnarface | Armageddon: aplay -L may be slightly more useful |
| 04:29.52 | Armageddon | gnarface, do you reckon the hdmi sound should work automatically ? |
| 04:29.58 | bambanx | anyone know how i can fix the login problem pls ? |
| 04:30.52 | labneh | pulseaudio removed, do i keep the .asoundrc file ? if yes, can you link/paste me the file's correct input |
| 04:31.11 | Armageddon | labneh, mine no, delete it |
| 04:31.25 | gnarface | Armageddon: i don't know, but i suspect it depends on the driver and the hardware. i would expect hdmi to be rare |
| 04:31.53 | gnarface | labneh: yes, delete it. or at least move it out of the way |
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| 04:32.26 | labneh | gnarface: done, do i restart the alsa-utils ? |
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| 04:32.46 | Marezz | klys, this is in /proc/mounts http://pastebin.com/1yVvmGv0 |
| 04:32.50 | gnarface | labneh: i doubt it could hurt, but i never have |
| 04:33.46 | gnarface | labneh: did you add the index= options to your soundcard modules already? |
| 04:33.54 | LtL | bambanx: check for the file, /etc/default/saned |
| 04:34.14 | labneh | gnarface: no, i missed that instruction, could you please repaste ? |
| 04:34.33 | LtL | bambanx: someone else was missing it, although I'm not sure it's affects login. |
| 04:36.32 | klys | Marezz: ls -l /dev/sdb1 /dev/disk/by-uuid/41a96150-9ae9-4efd-8533-173731ce5ae1 |
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| 04:37.58 | gnarface | labneh: in your /etc/modprobe.d/ directory there are a bunch of files ending in .conf that contain options for modules. figure out the names of the two soundcard modules you have, and put them in this file on their own lines, with index=0 as an option to the one you want to be the default card, and index=1 as the option for the second one. then unload (modprobe -r [module name]) and reload (modprobe [module name]) them both |
| 04:38.08 | klys | Marezz: do you see the same major and minor numbers? |
| 04:38.54 | gnarface | labneh: sorry let me correct that statement, put the options in a NEW file you create in that folder, with a .conf extension. |
| 04:38.59 | Marezz | klys, marezz@solus ~ $ ls -l /dev/sdb1 /dev/disk/by-uuid/41a96150-9ae9-4efd-8533-173731ce5ae1 |
| 04:38.59 | Marezz | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 20 05:23 /dev/disk/by-uuid/41a96150-9ae9-4efd-8533-173731ce5ae1 -> ../../sda1 |
| 04:38.59 | Marezz | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 Feb 20 05:23 /dev/sdb1 |
| 04:39.23 | klys | ls -l /dev/sda1 |
| 04:39.56 | Marezz | klys, marezz@solus ~ $ ls -l /dev/sda1 |
| 04:39.57 | Marezz | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 Feb 20 05:23 /dev/sda1 |
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| 04:41.11 | klys | Marezz: rootfs? |
| 04:41.46 | Marezz | klys, what? |
| 04:42.07 | gnarface | labneh: then once you've done that remove the ~/.asoundrc and your default soundcard *should* be the one you picked. its important you remember not to take your output jack for granted (sometimes the drivers use different ones than labeled on the physical card) |
| 04:43.01 | klys | Marezz: you have to admit / is mounted as rootfs also |
| 04:43.09 | gnarface | labneh: you can use aplay -D [pcm name] [filename] to try to play say, a wav or mp3 file out a given alsa PCM. you can list them with aplay -L (not to be confused with aplay -l which only lists physical subcomponents of the card, not the logical ones alsa creates) |
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| 04:45.13 | Armageddon | gnarface, btw he has one device but it's not working on HDMI ! doesn't both have to have the same module ? |
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| 04:46.34 | klys | mount rootfs rootfs / rw remount |
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| 04:47.15 | klys | ~rootfs |
| 04:47.15 | apt | well, rootfs is mount ro, but all the nessary files that need to be writen to are created in a ramdisk that is rw |
| 04:48.21 | klys | Marezz: what was mounted ro at the time of mount rootfs? |
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| 04:50.03 | Marezz | klys, brb reboot |
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| 04:51.08 | Maccer | So I downloaded the latest mysql .deb from the mysql dev download site. I did dpkg -i mysql* ... and it didn't do anything but try to install something. No server set up prompt or anything |
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| 04:51.39 | cantido | Maccer: what setup were you expecting |
| 04:51.50 | cantido | also why not use the version in debian.. |
| 04:52.16 | Maccer | It's out of date cantido, and I was expecting what usually happens. I blue prompt to set up my passwords and what not, and more information. I also couldn't find it in the bins |
| 04:52.34 | cantido | Maccer: dpkg-reconfigure |
| 04:52.44 | klys | ~mysqladmin |
| 04:52.44 | Maccer | I'm really new to debian, and I really don't like the aptitude package manager. |
| 04:53.05 | cantido | Maccer: you mean the curses interface? |
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| 04:53.15 | Maccer | cantido: Yes actually. |
| 04:53.24 | cantido | Maccer: you can drive it command line style or use apt-get or one of the other frontends to apt/dpkg |
| 04:53.54 | cantido | once you learn the shortcuts for the curses interface its pretty good.. slow, but good |
| 04:55.01 | labneh | gnarface, I am not able to find 2 modules for the sound, I found one, snd_hda_intel, here's my lspci dump http://hpaste.org/64020 |
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| 05:00.22 | rdonx | Anyone good with networking? |
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| 05:00.31 | rdonx | I'm trying to get this done before 1:00 AM |
| 05:00.48 | somiaj | still working wiht your wireless issue? |
| 05:00.57 | hot_honey | wht you want to done befro 1am??? |
| 05:01.00 | Marezz | klys, this command helped me "sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb1 && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 && cd /mnt/sdb1" |
| 05:01.01 | boudiccas | "not I" said the pig! |
| 05:01.27 | Marezz | klys, I can now access it from /mnt/sdb1 but it wont show on the nautilus "home page" or list it in devices |
| 05:01.40 | rdonx | somiaj, I've fixed that |
| 05:02.02 | somiaj | hot_honey: please don't message me. |
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| 05:02.36 | hot_honey | any female here for cht??? |
| 05:02.48 | somiaj | rdonx: well there is #networking, you can ask your question here but if it isn't debian specific you may get directed there anyways |
| 05:03.24 | rdonx | They're too busy talking about socket protocol |
| 05:03.55 | rdonx | Let me re-explain the mess I have: |
| 05:04.00 | Maccer | cantido: Oh, when I was talking about the curses interface, I didn't mean aptitude but the mysql setup. |
| 05:04.05 | Maccer | The mysql-server set up in particular. |
| 05:04.34 | rdonx | Camera expects to talk to a router. Inside the camera, it's set to use 192.168.1.30 as a static IP, and it expects the router to be at 192.168.1.1 |
| 05:05.01 | rdonx | I've connected the camera via cat5 cable to my laptop's eth0 |
| 05:05.37 | rdonx | I've set the gateway to 192.168.1.30, and address to 192.168.1.14 |
| 05:05.43 | rdonx | But there's a problem |
| 05:05.52 | rdonx | The wifi uses the 192.168.1.x range as well |
| 05:05.56 | rdonx | So I think that's my issue |
| 05:06.01 | Blue1 | wow what kind of cam uses ethernet? |
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| 05:06.20 | rdonx | Blue1 it actually has ethernet and wifi, but the wifi can't reach |
| 05:06.33 | rdonx | so I want to put my laptop by the camera |
| 05:06.33 | civillian | Blue1: security cameras with PoE... |
| 05:06.52 | rdonx | and the laptop has a script I wrote that downloads the image, and processes it |
| 05:07.09 | Blue1 | rdonx: off hand the gateway address doesn't sound right |
| 05:07.26 | rdonx | Blue1, well the camera'll be thinking my laptop is a router |
| 05:07.30 | somiaj | rdonx: I think you want a bridge, in that case it won't matter that everything is on the same subnet 192.168.1.x, but this is out of my expereince. |
| 05:07.34 | rdonx | and my laptop'll think the camera is a router... |
| 05:08.11 | rdonx | somiaj, thing is, I don't want the camera to show up to the wifi network |
| 05:08.14 | Blue1 | ditto |
| 05:08.25 | somiaj | rdonx: no you don't want to use the alptop as a router, that means you'll have two different networks which will cause conflict if they are on the same netmask. You should be able to set up a bridge on your laptop so instead of working as a router the camera talks directally to the network via that bridge. |
| 05:08.30 | rdonx | So what'll happen is: camera -> laptop, then laptop runs a server that shows the pictures to the wifi |
| 05:08.47 | somiaj | Blue1: then you'll have to set up different subnets/netmasks for the two different networks. |
| 05:08.51 | somiaj | rdonx: ^^ |
| 05:08.58 | somiaj | Blue1: I'm drunk helping again...:D |
| 05:09.01 | Blue1 | yup |
| 05:09.20 | rdonx | But wait |
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| 05:10.28 | Blue1 | so the wifi and the eterhnet are 2 different networks? |
| 05:10.40 | somiaj | he said they were both using 192.168.1.x |
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| 05:11.09 | Blue1 | somiaj: okay that's what I thought. so why is the gateway a .30 address? |
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| 05:12.11 | somiaj | seems he wants to use the laptop as a router/bridge between the two, beyond that I don't know. |
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| 05:12.28 | rdonx2 | Arr |
| 05:12.30 | Blue1 | somiaj: ah okay - that is beyond my knowledge level |
| 05:12.30 | rdonx2 | Got d/c'd |
| 05:13.05 | rdonx2 | If I switch the camera to be gateway 192.168.2.30 |
| 05:13.10 | rdonx2 | then it doesn't even want to ping back |
| 05:13.21 | rdonx2 | I assume I'll have to edit the static ip of the camera |
| 05:13.31 | rdonx2 | to make it think it's 192.168.2.30 and not 192.168.1.30? |
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| 05:13.48 | Blue1 | rdonx2: yeah that gateway address makes no senst to me. I mean why isn't the gateway the router address? 192.168.1.1 |
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| 05:14.28 | rdonx2 | Blue1, well the wlan0 has a router at 192.168.1.1 |
| 05:14.41 | rdonx2 | so the eth0 can't use that address |
| 05:14.44 | Blue1 | rdonx2: ok |
| 05:15.05 | Blue1 | rdonx2: why not? |
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| 05:15.37 | somiaj | Blue1: there is nothing wrong with having a gateway that isn't .1 |
| 05:15.52 | Blue1 | somiaj: that is true. |
| 05:16.12 | rdonx2 | To prevent conflict? |
| 05:16.13 | Blue1 | I do my own dns |
| 05:16.56 | Blue1 | rdonx2: all the devices on my lan, wireless or hardwired use the same gateway |
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| 05:17.32 | somiaj | rdonx2: well can you configure this camera to communicate with the laptop on some other network? i.e. configure the camera network and the wireless network seperatally. Once you do that setting up the routing/bridge between the two will be the next step. |
| 05:18.01 | Blue1 | that makes sense 2 me |
| 05:18.16 | rdonx2 | well |
| 05:18.22 | rdonx2 | at the moment I took down the camera |
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| 05:18.51 | rdonx2 | and am going to change its internal settings so that it tries to treat 192.168.2.14 as home |
| 05:19.04 | rdonx2 | and 192.168.2.30 as its own IP |
| 05:19.11 | rdonx2 | then I'll bring the camera back to my laptop |
| 05:19.18 | rdonx2 | and my laptop then won't have a conflict |
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| 05:23.56 | Bsims | how good is sandybridge graphics support? |
| 05:24.34 | somiaj | Bsims: I've seen people sucesffuly set it up, they just needed a 2.6.39 (or newer kernel) from backports.debian.org along with a backport of the xorg server |
| 05:25.03 | Bsims | Ok, cause I've heard its flaky and oft has tearing |
| 05:25.19 | Bsims | though that was a few months ago |
| 05:25.22 | somiaj | I haven't done mroe than help others get it setup, no personal experience |
| 05:25.23 | Bsims | its new hw time |
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| 05:26.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps is this cron line correct ?30 16 2-5 * * /home/THRACE/erin/bin/wakeup.sh |
| 05:26.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | 4:30 pm tuesday through sat? |
| 05:26.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | er friday |
| 05:26.53 | vbrummond | Bsims: I have set up machines with Sandybridge. You will need both kern and backported xorg as was mentioned. http://x.debian.net/reference/squeeze-backports.html |
| 05:27.28 | Bsims | vbrummond: thanks |
| 05:27.34 | Bsims | I'll give them a read |
| 05:27.35 | vbrummond | it worked good in my case, but that was just one instance |
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| 05:33.16 | Braniac | question, when i compile a kernel fom source from /usr/src/ with make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-1st kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source, the i install the .deb image and headers (in that order), why it doesn't work on the same machine but with debian installed from scratch ??? |
| 05:34.07 | somiaj | Braniac: need to give more info about 'dosen't work'. |
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| 05:34.28 | Braniac | sorry, it dosen't install at all |
| 05:34.33 | somiaj | also what is debian installed from scratch? |
| 05:34.39 | somiaj | it doesn't install, what errors do you get? |
| 05:34.45 | Braniac | it says that there is no /usr/src/ reference |
| 05:35.53 | Braniac | newly installed debian |
| 05:36.07 | Braniac | sorry for my english but it is not my mother language |
| 05:36.17 | somiaj | which of the three packages you created are complaing? |
| 05:36.47 | Braniac | linux-image.deb |
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| 05:37.30 | somiaj | well I don't see why it is complaining. |
| 05:37.31 | Braniac | i am not complaning about anything (just compile the source again) just wondering why this happens |
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| 05:38.48 | somiaj | no I say I don't see why dpkg is complaining about no /usr/src reference, not you |
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| 05:39.12 | somiaj | I haven't had trouble installing kernels compiled on one machine on another. |
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| 05:41.04 | vbrummond | aye i share a lot of binaries and they always work |
| 05:41.52 | somiaj | its something strange in the package creation, but I don't know what it was |
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| 05:42.38 | Braniac | how does your make-kpkg is when you compile a kernel??? |
| 05:43.53 | vbrummond | Braniac - I do: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-bpo.2-arch-sk1 --jobs=2 binary-arch |
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| 05:45.17 | Braniac | vbrummond: have your kernel worked on a diferent machine ??? |
| 05:45.34 | vbrummond | yes, i compile them for my friend, as long as its the same arch they always work |
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| 05:46.24 | Braniac | vbrummond: it generates the headers and source .deb too??? |
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| 05:47.24 | vbrummond | Braniac: binary arch is only for headers image and debug |
| 05:47.40 | vbrummond | i never needed the source deb |
| 05:48.51 | vbrummond | though your command looked ok to me, so it might be something else bugging it up. Perhaps try on an older kernel source to narrow it down to being a problem with kernel-package (if it fails to work on a newer kernel but works on an older one, report a bug) |
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| 05:49.33 | Braniac | vbrummond: have you tried your kernel for virtualbox dkms ???, before install your new kernel of course |
| 05:49.36 | somiaj | vbrummond: note it might be prefered you do make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot |
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| 05:50.44 | vbrummond | somiaj: thanks for the tip; never noticed any issues though |
| 05:51.12 | vbrummond | Braniac: compiling drivers for dkms works fine on my custom kernels, i have virtualbox modules installed for mine now |
| 05:51.40 | Braniac | vbrummond: i am on debian squeeze 6.0.4, the only thing i installed from wheezy was the ati privative drivers |
| 05:52.33 | somiaj | vbrummond: its more it will only invoke fakeroot for the final packing of the debs as opposed for the whole command |
| 05:52.54 | Braniac | vbrummond: mmm, i will study your make-kpkg |
| 05:53.15 | Braniac | vbrummond: it could be that i am not using the fakeroot program??? |
| 05:53.40 | vbrummond | Braniac: possibly, I never like running compiles as "actual root". Though I have never tried it |
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| 05:54.08 | vbrummond | somiaj: interesting; actually that sounds good; i think ill start doing that |
| 05:54.17 | Braniac | vbrummond: did you compile your kernel on /usr/src ??? |
| 05:54.43 | nu11_po1n73R | how to pudate linux kernel |
| 05:55.05 | vbrummond | Braniac: no, i usually compile in my /dev/shm ramdisk, but on a low memory machine I compile in a folder in my home folder |
| 05:56.10 | vbrummond | nu11_po1n73R: http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ Note will you have to install it manually with apt-get -t squeeze-backports install nameofpackage |
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| 05:59.00 | Braniac | vbrummond: so, you are telling me that your fakeroot make-kpkg will create the linux_image and linux_headers ??? |
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| 05:59.15 | vbrummond | Braniac: yes |
| 06:00.14 | Braniac | vbrummond: ok, then i will study your make-kpkg, thanks for all the help |
| 06:00.25 | vbrummond | Braniac: I hope you resolve your issue! :) |
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| 06:06.58 | Bsims | I got my new hw picked out 2nd gen core i5-2500, intel BOXDH67BLB3, 8 gig of ddr3, and a 1tb Caviar Black... any issues anyone know about graphics or stabilty wise? |
| 06:07.17 | Braniac | vbrummond: just a last question, when you run "fakeroot", you are running it from "root" or just the normal user ??? |
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| 06:08.20 | vbrummond | Braniac: normal user; that is the point of fakeroot is to create a fake root environment that does not have any real privileges to build debian packages |
| 06:08.20 | somiaj | Braniac: as the normal user, fakeroot mostly adds the ability to write primisions inside of archives (such as .deb) |
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| 06:09.21 | Braniac | vbrummond: ok, thanks again for your help and time, compilling right now |
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| 06:18.28 | Braniac | i already brought a wifi device with "ar9271" chipset, i already compiled a kernel 3.2.6 with the atheros_htc drivers builded as module, the thing is that it doesn't worked, then i installed the atheros-firmware from wheezy and it worked out, my question is if anyone here know if in which version of the kernel it will support it with the atheros_htc drivers in it ??? |
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| 06:23.30 | somiaj | Braniac: have you checked the wiki for that module. Sometimes it says which kernel version first had support |
| 06:23.41 | somiaj | Braniac: are you running wheezy or stable? |
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| 06:24.37 | Braniac | somiaj: stable, the only thing i had installed from wheezy was the atheros and realtek firmware |
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| 06:25.07 | somiaj | Braniac: (and not other depends got installed with it?) |
| 06:25.23 | somiaj | Braniac: you can install both the firmware and a 3.2 kernel from squeeze-backports |
| 06:25.24 | Braniac | somiaj: in fact the wiki said that i needed to install the atheros-firmware, but i will check again |
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| 06:26.48 | Braniac | i am kind of newie on this debian O.S. and i never used the backports on debian |
| 06:26.56 | Braniac | have you the link??? |
| 06:27.00 | somiaj | !tell Braniac about squeeze-backports |
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| 06:27.57 | somiaj | Braniac: those are made by debian developers, basic idea is a backport is a newer pice of software compiled against the squeeze core (this is important for the libs/dpkg/core system stuff depends on ) |
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| 06:29.33 | Braniac | somiaj: interesting but i will try it first on my virtualbox, thanks for the help, testing |
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| 06:42.08 | Braniac | somiaj: it seems that the backports repository are awesome, i will update the atheros chipset firmware from there, but in terms of kernel i prefer comile my own, i see an increase of speed on my computer |
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| 06:43.00 | somiaj | Braniac: understandable. And yes backports are a nice collection of packages. Also while you are looking at backports, /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 06:43.25 | somiaj | Braniac: possible to make your own if you are acustom to compling software from either wheezy or sid source packages. |
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| 06:44.38 | Braniac | somiaj: i am just looking but it seems that the atheros firmware are 0.28 and wheezy's are 0.35, it is normal??? |
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| 06:46.14 | somiaj | ,versions firmware-atheros |
| 06:46.15 | judd | Package: firmware-atheros on i386 -- lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.35~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 0.35; wheezy/non-free: 0.35 |
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| 06:47.01 | somiaj | Braniac: It is normal that versions in wheezy are newer than squeeze, as to the changes in the firmware, most likely it is adding support for additional devices. |
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| 06:48.12 | Braniac | somiaj: i know but i was saying that the backports version of atheros firmware are lower than wheezy, it's still normal??? |
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| 06:49.13 | somiaj | Braniac: no look at judd, the version in backports is the same as sid |
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| 06:49.43 | somiaj | you have to explicity tell apt to install backport package, by default they are pinned lower so peple dont' automatically upgrade to backported versions. Should only backport what you need. |
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| 06:50.29 | Braniac | somiaj: sorry, my fault, when i saw synaptic it showed me the squeeze version, but when i installed it from terminal and backports it downloaded the new one |
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| 06:51.16 | somiaj | Braniac: though it isn't uncommon that backport packages aren't the same version. They are the version (usaly from wheezy) at the time the backport was made and aren't always updated as soon as a new version drops into wheezy |
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| 06:54.45 | Braniac | somiaj: there is anyway to see the backports packages (like synaptic) before installing it??? |
| 06:55.20 | simonlnu | stop using synaptic and use aptitude ;p |
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| 06:56.02 | somiaj | Braniac: I like to do apt-cache policy <pkg-name> |
| 06:56.09 | somiaj | Braniac: it will list every installable version of the package. |
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| 06:57.33 | Braniac | somiaj: ok, sorry for the waste of time i made you trought, it is very apreciated all the help you provided me |
| 06:58.14 | somiaj | Braniac: its easy to overlook things, and yes listen to simonlnu, don't use synaptic.... |
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| 07:00.12 | Braniac | somiaj: i really try not to use synaptic, but when i don't know how to do a certain thing then i use synaptic, i really like terminal and (at least for me) speed over synaptic (installation packages) |
| 07:02.43 | Braniac | simonlnu: i really try to use terminal, but i prefer apt-get instead of aptitude, can you tell me the diferences???, besides if there is an important diference over apt-get i could consider use aptitude instead apt-get |
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| 07:05.30 | styles | If I install the live CD guys, should I be able to then update everything to a complete full version? |
| 07:05.34 | SoulProprietor | afaik you can pretty much use all apt-get commands with aptitude |
| 07:05.51 | somiaj | Braniac: apttude actually has an ncurses type gui so it doesn't have to be fully cli |
| 07:06.08 | somiaj | styles: once you set up the internet sources yes |
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| 07:14.04 | kev009 | I'm running wheezy and need a 32-bit JRE (crappy propriety code) |
| 07:14.39 | kev009 | what's the path of least resistance? I tried ia32-sun-java6-bin_6.26-0squeeze1_amd64.deb but it also wants to depend on squeeze's 64-bit jre |
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| 07:15.15 | Braniac2 | kev009: have you tried "apt-get install sun-java7-jre"??? |
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| 07:16.09 | kev009 | Braniac2: such a package doesn't exist. it would also be 64-bit as specified |
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| 07:16.43 | Braniac2 | kev009: sorry, my bad, "apt-get install sun-java6-jre" |
| 07:16.44 | MrCleanWithHair | kev009: have you tried aptitude search jre |
| 07:17.21 | kev009 | sigh. hate to be rude but if you don't understand the wheezy part your not going to be able to help |
| 07:18.22 | MrCleanWithHair | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/openjdk-6-jre-lib |
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| 07:19.11 | kev009 | MrCleanWithHair: thanks, but that's still a 64-bit package on this machine |
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| 07:19.42 | pass | ciao |
| 07:19.49 | kev009 | found a solution here - http://ddmytrenko.blogspot.com/2012/02/installing-sun-java-6-jdk-on-debian.html?z |
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| 07:19.53 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
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| 08:26.48 | mah454 | Hello |
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| 08:27.25 | mah454 | My system crash after start Virtual Machin in QEMU (virt-manager) or VirtualBox or KVM |
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| 08:28.07 | mah454 | after crash my keyboard not work |
| 08:29.06 | mah454 | I use debian stabe (2.6.32-5-686) , Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU E5700 @ 3.00GHz , 3G ram |
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| 08:36.21 | bolt | mah454: "crash" is not very descriptive |
| 08:36.26 | Styles | Ok I'm trying to install debian and gnome and unfortunetly I only have a damn CD (where my dvd's and thumb drives have gone is beyond me). So I've proceeded to download http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#smallcd I burned it successfully and it says it's verified. Now, I go to install it and the only option that works is the install not the graphical install (it just sits there frozen for ever) |
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| 08:36.35 | bolt | mah454: what, exatly, happens? do you get any useful error messages? |
| 08:36.40 | Styles | Now, it says it can't find any cd drivers yet it's using a cd toinstall Lol |
| 08:36.44 | Styles | so it wont continue :( |
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| 08:37.51 | mah454 | bolt, i have not any error ! my system not work . I must restart (handy) |
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| 08:39.22 | bolt | mah454: so... your system hard locks whenever you start a virtual machine of any sort? |
| 08:40.23 | mah454 | yes |
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| 08:41.35 | bolt | mah454: are you using hardware virtualization? sounds to me like that functionality could be broken on your cpu |
| 08:42.31 | mah454 | bolt, no . normal PC , CPU is : Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU E5700 @ 3.00GHz |
| 08:43.09 | mah454 | bolt, this is CPU flag : flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm xsave lahf_lm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority |
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| 08:43.31 | mah454 | this CPU support XEN ... |
| 08:44.01 | bolt | hmmz. anything useful in kern.log perhaps? |
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| 08:44.52 | bolt | it probably doesn't manage to write there if it just locks up.. but hey, could be lucky |
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| 08:46.16 | mah454 | bolt, test again ... I come back ! |
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| 08:53.19 | mah454 | bolt, i think find problem . system crash when config network to bridge ! |
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| 08:53.54 | mah454 | sorry , English is not my native language ! |
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| 09:05.37 | eagles0513875 | hey guys i have a question i just did a clean install of squeeze and for some reason it installed grub2 in the MBR of my pen drive i installed it on the system and ran grub-update but still isnt booting |
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| 09:13.15 | namoamitabuddha | netcat and netcat-openbsd, which is in fashion? |
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| 09:14.25 | somiaj | I thought one was a transitional package for the other |
| 09:14.37 | somiaj | apt-cache show netcat |
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| 09:16.49 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: any idea how to install grub to the mbr of my SSD for some reason the installer when installing of a bootable usb installs it to the usb MBR |
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| 09:17.00 | JANSSEN\djota | hi |
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| 09:17.30 | nkuttler | eagles0513875: grub-install device? |
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| 09:18.43 | somiaj | eagles0513875: the installer from a debian-live image? |
| 09:19.03 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: i used the net install |
| 09:19.09 | eagles0513875 | nkuttler: it complained that i was installing to a partition |
| 09:19.53 | somiaj | eagles0513875: hmm, well I have had to in the chroot in to the /target (or whever it mounts the partition you are installing in and manually install grub and run grub-install) |
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| 09:20.07 | somiaj | but that has only been on the live-image installers, the netinstall never gave me issues |
| 09:21.03 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: i used unetbootin to create the bootable usb |
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| 09:21.54 | somiaj | well you can hit alt-f2 |
| 09:22.08 | somiaj | and get a console and finish from there. |
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| 09:22.26 | Wally | glares at OpenPandora |
| 09:22.50 | eagles0513875 | im already at a console i dont have a desktop installed |
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| 09:24.12 | somiaj | eagles0513875: see if your root file system is mounted (mount or df -h) |
| 09:24.30 | eagles0513875 | ya it is somiaj |
| 09:25.09 | somiaj | eagles0513875: (you have a dev and a proc mounted inside your /target as well (or whatever its called)) |
| 09:25.18 | somiaj | eagles0513875: chroot into your root file system, you should be like you are on your system |
| 09:25.29 | somiaj | if grub is installed you can just use grub-install or dpkg-reconfigure grub |
| 09:25.37 | somiaj | actually it is grub2 |
| 09:26.14 | eagles0513875 | i installed with a single partition |
| 09:26.23 | eagles0513875 | im thinking maybe i should reinstall with multiple partitions instead |
| 09:26.32 | somiaj | that shouldn't be the issue |
| 09:26.54 | eagles0513875 | how do i go about chrooting etc |
| 09:27.04 | somiaj | chroot /target |
| 09:27.43 | eagles0513875 | target would be /mount or something of the sort |
| 09:27.58 | somiaj | the place you said your partiton you were installing on was mounted |
| 09:28.23 | eagles0513875 | it seems like i dont have the appropriate package installed for chroot |
| 09:28.40 | somiaj | should be on the installer |
| 09:29.15 | eagles0513875 | there is a serious bug in squeeze though if its installing grub2 to the MBR of the pen drive instead of disk |
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| 09:29.37 | mahdy_ | hi |
| 09:29.40 | eagles0513875 | hi maharaja_ |
| 09:29.43 | eagles0513875 | hi mahdy_ |
| 09:29.54 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: this is a brand spanking new clean install |
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| 09:30.58 | somiaj | so you were able to boot off your partitoin, I thought you said you couldn't. |
| 09:31.03 | mahdy_ | when i request a file many time from apache i give a 403 error , what should i do for disabling this (feature?) |
| 09:31.27 | mahdy_ | i dont have any firewall or something |
| 09:31.50 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: i can but i need to use the pendrive to load grub to load the system |
| 09:32.41 | somiaj | eagles0513875: in that case 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' |
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| 09:33.27 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: :D |
| 09:33.31 | somiaj | eagles0513875: I though you were booted up off a live system, not in your actual ihsntall. (: |
| 09:33.39 | somiaj | well off the net-install rescue part |
| 09:34.04 | eagles0513875 | my apologies for not being specific |
| 09:34.09 | eagles0513875 | let me reboot and we see :) |
| 09:34.14 | somiaj | you were, I was just not reading you clearly |
| 09:34.22 | r4co0n | mahdy_, apache related questions are best answered by the folks in #httpd at freenode. i think you gotta be registered to join it, though |
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| 09:35.12 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: ty it worked :) |
| 09:35.27 | mahdy_ | r4co0n: thank you |
| 09:35.58 | somiaj | eagles0513875: sorry I took you on a wild goose chase, (: |
| 09:36.03 | eagles0513875 | no worries |
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| 09:46.34 | lulzplzkthx | Can someone explain to me what's going on here? https://gist.github.com/fff4cbea7e470173da77 |
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| 09:46.47 | lulzplzkthx | I'm trying to remove a file and getting a No such file or directory error |
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| 09:47.28 | lulzplzkthx | Oh wow. |
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| 09:47.51 | pksadiq` | lulzplzkthx: try quoting the file name |
| 09:48.02 | lulzplzkthx | pksadiq`: I just typed it wrong. XD |
| 09:48.05 | lulzplzkthx | akismet, not askimet |
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| 09:51.23 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: question how do i permantly load a module for my wifi |
| 09:51.32 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: i know already what module i need its the ath9k |
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| 09:52.17 | somiaj | it should load automatically |
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| 09:57.44 | eagles0513875 | somiaj: its not i have tried squeeze before and it doesnt seem to be loading how can i confirm that it loads |
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| 10:00.59 | somiaj | eagles0513875: lsmod lists loaded modules, dmesg lists output. What is your exact card? |
| 10:01.44 | eagles0513875 | ok somiaj seems like my card has its modules loaded but wicd isnt picking it up |
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| 10:02.03 | somiaj | is your card mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 10:02.08 | somiaj | what does ifconfig -a say? |
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| 10:02.50 | eagles0513875 | it shows its there somiaj same with iwconfig |
| 10:03.04 | eagles0513875 | what network manager would you recommend? |
| 10:03.17 | somiaj | its called wlan0? Does that interfaces file have any mention of wlan0? |
| 10:03.31 | somiaj | eagles0513875: I don't use a network manager, I do everything manually with the interfaces file |
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| 10:03.47 | eagles0513875 | its wlan0 |
| 10:03.57 | eagles0513875 | but nothign listed in interfaces file |
| 10:04.01 | tris0mi | any good command to show all temperatures in computer, not only cpu ? |
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| 10:04.42 | somiaj | eagles0513875: hmm, network-manager (and I think wicd) both ignore any device explicty mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:04.50 | somiaj | though I didn't have any trouble the few times I used wicd. |
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| 10:05.33 | eagles0513875 | :( |
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| 10:07.43 | somiaj | what desktop enviorment are you using? |
| 10:07.54 | somiaj | do you have network-manager installed along side wicd? |
| 10:08.01 | eagles0513875 | i have gnome |
| 10:08.09 | eagles0513875 | modified and using cairo dock as well with it |
| 10:08.19 | eagles0513875 | and thats another thing i want to remove the top menu bar and use the cairo dock only |
| 10:08.22 | eagles0513875 | how can i remove it |
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| 10:08.40 | somiaj | no clue I don't use desktop enviorments, just a simpel window manager here. |
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| 10:08.51 | eagles0513875 | i was hoping to avoid using gnome |
| 10:08.59 | eagles0513875 | and just use cairo-dock |
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| 10:09.25 | eagles0513875 | at this point im ready to clone the repos and start working on improvements for things and start work on my own DE |
| 10:09.31 | eagles0513875 | anywho thanks for your help |
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| 10:10.13 | shingouz | eagles0513875: you do not need gnome. openbox, xcompmgr and cairo-dock should do the trick |
| 10:10.34 | eagles0513875 | shingouz: when it comes to logging in it seems to not list cairo-dock |
| 10:10.36 | eagles0513875 | in gdm |
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| 10:11.09 | shingouz | eagles0513875: dpkg-reconfigure gdm o ryou can try sometihng different like xdm |
| 10:11.17 | eagles0513875 | humm ok |
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| 10:11.50 | eagles0513875 | this makes no sense |
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| 10:13.00 | Lobs | does anyone here know how safe it is to upgrade a vps running lenny to squeeze? |
| 10:13.13 | eagles0513875 | shingouz: is there a way to have gdm update what one can login to |
| 10:13.35 | somiaj | you can use gdm just fine if you like it |
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| 10:13.46 | eagles0513875 | i know but its not listing cairo-dock somiaj |
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| 10:13.50 | somiaj | just select another session besides gnome, if you have openbox installed should be able to use an openbox session |
| 10:13.52 | eagles0513875 | Lobs: you should be fine |
| 10:13.57 | somiaj | cario-dock isn't a wm, install another wm to use the dock with |
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| 10:14.07 | Lobs | eagles0513875: even though the kernel seems to be locked to the vps providers? |
| 10:14.20 | eagles0513875 | Lobs: whose your provider |
| 10:14.26 | Lobs | virpus |
| 10:14.36 | Lobs | viprus* |
| 10:14.37 | eagles0513875 | they should have it setup to where the kernel is black listed and not updated |
| 10:14.39 | somiaj | Lobs: do you have any special things like plesk or other managmenet tools provided to you by your vps? |
| 10:14.43 | themill | Lobs: what's the current output of "uname -r" |
| 10:15.11 | Lobs | Linux XXX 2.6.18-194.26.1.el5.028stab079.2 #1 SMP Fri Dec 17 19:25:15 MSK 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 10:15.27 | themill | Lobs: squeeze isn't going to be happy on that kernel |
| 10:15.43 | Lobs | themill: thats what i was thinking, |
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| 10:15.54 | eagles0513875 | themill: that sounds to me like hes on a centos 5 host |
| 10:15.57 | Lobs | i did try to upgrade the kernel in the past but it just always uses that kernel |
| 10:15.58 | nkuttler | runs squeeze on a 2.6.18-028stab092 |
| 10:16.07 | themill | eagles0513875: it is, yes. |
| 10:16.18 | themill | nkuttler: so do I, but handling device creation is tedious |
| 10:16.34 | themill | Lobs: that's the host system's kernel -- you have no control over it |
| 10:16.35 | Lobs | all i want is apache and sendmail working nicely ;-) |
| 10:16.36 | nkuttler | themill: no idea about that, never had to |
| 10:17.07 | nkuttler | Lobs: if you can do a full backup and rist a little downtime vs no security support... give it a try |
| 10:17.09 | eagles0513875 | im happily chugging along on ubuntu 10.04 on my linodes :) with the latest 3.2 kernel |
| 10:17.12 | themill | nkuttler: I presume someone created the device nodes for you as squeeze's udev has a hissy fit about that kernel |
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| 10:17.50 | Lobs | themill: so what is the worst i can expect to happen with squeeze and that kernel version? |
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| 10:18.36 | eagles0513875 | sigh think im goign to reinstall :( and dump cairo-dock |
| 10:18.42 | eagles0513875 | bit lost and confused |
| 10:19.34 | nkuttler | themill: i think the hoster patches the kernel.. another box is 2.6.32-028stab092.1 looks some kind of patch revision |
| 10:19.46 | gypsymauro | hi, I dicovered that samba 3.6.3 has hitted squeeze-backports but not the amd64 version, how can I find out why the amd64 isn't still in backports? |
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| 10:20.17 | jelly | nkuttler: it's an OpenVZ or Virtuozzo kernel, you can tell by the stab. |
| 10:20.25 | nkuttler | ah |
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| 10:28.13 | KinG`PiN | Hello all |
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| 10:29.05 | KinG`PiN | Is there any way to forward a specific port via SSH on Debian? |
| 10:29.51 | robokop | KinG`PiN: look at the -L and -R options in the ssh man-page |
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| 10:33.59 | shingouz | eagles0513875: sorry i didn't see earlier, i was afk for a second. before you nuke the system, try a dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
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| 10:36.17 | shingouz | eagles0513875: make the dm to openbox, then into .config/openbox/autostart.sh put 'xcompmgr & cairo-dock -c &'. you need xcompmgr only if you do not have opengl on your system. if you have opengl, you can get by with 'cairo-dock -o &' in autostart |
| 10:37.08 | shingouz | eagles0513875: the easiest way to put a wallpaper on the desktop is to use hsetroot in autostart, btw |
| 10:37.09 | morri | if I put an external dvd/cd drive onto a laptop would the laptop see it as a usb device or as a cd drive? |
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| 10:38.03 | shingouz | morri: both. shows up in lsusb as a usb device and dmesg (if your system is correctly configured) as a cd/dvd |
| 10:38.30 | KinG`PiN | Meh, can someone be more specific like tell me how to exactly do it?;/ |
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| 10:39.37 | morri | I am wondering about that bcause my laptops cd drive doesnt work anymore, cd/floppy and hard drive is the only way it can read media from boot, (hasnt actually got a floppy drive in but rather an empty slot) |
| 10:39.50 | Snake1 | hi i have been following this tutorial http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-ubuntu-10.04-lucid to set up a mail server |
| 10:39.51 | shingouz | !tell KinG`PiN about ssh tunnel |
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| 10:40.04 | Snake1 | but my problem is that i cant login when i try telnet LAN ip or localhost 143 |
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| 10:40.15 | morri | If i put a cd in an external cd drive would it recognise it as a boot media? or would it only work once the distro is loaded? |
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| 10:40.23 | Snake1 | but if i go with 110 i get -ERR [IN-USE] Temporary authentication failure. |
| 10:40.28 | shingouz | morri: you wan to boot off the usb cd to install? |
| 10:40.31 | Snake1 | is it something with dovecot that is wrong? :/ |
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| 10:40.41 | morri | yes |
| 10:40.45 | nsadmin | KinG`PiN, there are prewritten docs to tell you exactly how to do a lot of things |
| 10:40.48 | hyper_ch | Hi there, I wonder, if you have two NICs in a server that is connected to two different lans and one NIC is 100mbit and the other one is 1gbps... how can you make sure that the 100mbit nic connects to lan1 and the 1gbps nic connects to lan2? |
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| 10:41.09 | W00d5t0ck | Hello |
| 10:41.10 | morri | would that be recognised(I am theorising, I havent actually got the cd external yet) |
| 10:41.13 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: static ip ? |
| 10:41.35 | morri | I am trying to find an easier way to install than over network install |
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| 10:41.41 | hyper_ch | Snake1: but how do you say in /etc/network/interfaces which is eth0 and which is eth1... how is that determined? |
| 10:42.01 | shingouz | morri: not sure if your cd/dvd drive supports boting and i think you should set your bios for usb boot. if your computer does usb bott you can at least use a usb stick to boot, i have personaly never tried to boot off a usb cd |
| 10:42.07 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: do you want to get the information which network card is which ? |
| 10:42.19 | morri | my bios jhasnt got the possibility of usb boot |
| 10:42.30 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: ethtools |
| 10:42.55 | nsadmin | hyper_ch, I'd suggest taking a sticky label and put "1gp" and "100mb" and stick them on the server in the back where each nic is... then, also label your cables lan1 and lan2 |
| 10:43.01 | angelazou | hi, I'm getting this message from my email client, what does it mean? |
| 10:43.02 | nkuttler | morri: easier in what way? |
| 10:43.02 | angelazou | SMTP server error: AUTH command used when not advertised |
| 10:43.04 | hyper_ch | Snake1: well, when I setup the interface file and assign static IPs to eth0 and eth1... how can I be sure that the system uses the right network card |
| 10:43.11 | nsadmin | then plug each into the right socket |
| 10:43.22 | shingouz | morri: in that case you are what is called in the business "screwed" unless you can do a chroot install on the hard drive |
| 10:43.24 | nkuttler | angelazou: sounds like you're trying to auth and the server doesn't support it |
| 10:43.30 | morri | ankuttler easier in I don't have to set up a server in the first place |
| 10:43.34 | hyper_ch | Snake1: after reboot, will eth0 always be eth0 or is there some chance it will change to eth1? |
| 10:43.38 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: if you have them plugged in to the right socket, |
| 10:43.41 | Snake1 | then it wont change. |
| 10:43.43 | shingouz | morri: hmm... boot off lan perhaps? check the install manual |
| 10:43.50 | hyper_ch | Snake1: ok, great :) thx |
| 10:43.58 | Snake1 | and if you put in /etc/network/interface |
| 10:44.04 | Snake1 | then it will be static and remain after reboot. |
| 10:44.06 | morri | ankuttler easier in I don't have to set up a server in the first place |
| 10:44.31 | angelazou | but then if I turned off SMTP authentication, I got this message |
| 10:44.54 | Snake1 | Im having some issues with configuration of a mail server, |
| 10:44.54 | shingouz | morri: when i have had the same problem i have usually resored to a chroot with debootstrap but that means you need to hack a bunch of files by hand. not for noobs |
| 10:44.59 | angelazou | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:45.02 | nsadmin | right, it remembers which nic goes to which ethX |
| 10:45.03 | Snake1 | i cant connect with a Mua (my thunderbird) |
| 10:45.12 | Snake1 | and when i telnet localhost pop3 |
| 10:45.14 | morri | i tried to install previously from within a wubi install and from within a windows install, unfortunately there was an error in the files after partitioning the hard drive .... (yea i backed up before) |
| 10:45.33 | Snake1 | it accepts my user and pass but then i get the message -ERR [IN-USE] Temporary authentication failure. |
| 10:45.46 | Snake1 | i have followed this tutorial http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-ubuntu-10.04-lucid |
| 10:46.06 | hyper_ch | Snake1: imap? |
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| 10:46.09 | morri | I do have another computer but that isnt set up yewt(only moved recently) which runs lubuntu, so the other pc abailable is the laptop of my partner which doesnot run any linux though |
| 10:46.15 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: if i do telnet localhost imap |
| 10:46.24 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: it does not, accept my user or pass |
| 10:46.36 | Snake1 | i only get quit BAD Error in IMAP command received by server. |
| 10:46.43 | hyper_ch | Snake1: which software? courier? dovecot? |
| 10:46.43 | Snake1 | so does it have to do with dovecot? |
| 10:46.49 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: dovecot postfix |
| 10:46.54 | Snake1 | and mysql |
| 10:46.54 | shingouz | !tell morri about debootstrap |
| 10:47.13 | hyper_ch | Snake1: firewall interfering? |
| 10:47.20 | Snake1 | nope iptables is off |
| 10:47.48 | hyper_ch | Snake1: pastebin your dovecot config? |
| 10:48.01 | hyper_ch | and probably ask in #dovecot |
| 10:48.12 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: oki |
| 10:48.17 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: one moment, |
| 10:48.30 | hyper_ch | apt-get install pastebinit |
| 10:48.36 | hyper_ch | pastebinit config.file |
| 10:48.38 | hyper_ch | :) |
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| 10:48.51 | Snake1 | http://pastebin.com/Ftu3rJyg |
| 10:49.09 | shingouz | there's an application for pastebinning? wooo |
| 10:49.13 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: do you want my main.cf and master.cf postfix config files also? |
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| 10:49.43 | hyper_ch | Snake1: well, postfix has nothing to do with transferring imap/pop3 messages |
| 10:50.18 | hyper_ch | Snake1: can you send out mail from the CLI? |
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| 10:51.57 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: you mean by telnet ? |
| 10:52.04 | hyper_ch | no, by cli |
| 10:52.22 | hyper_ch | you ssh into the server |
| 10:52.28 | hyper_ch | and have it send an email |
| 10:53.09 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: ok im trying now, |
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| 10:53.26 | Snake1 | mail -s blahblahblah myname@gmail.com |
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| 10:54.21 | hyper_ch | Snake1: does that work? |
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| 10:54.47 | ws2k3 | how can i configure my apache2 that it allways remove www. ? |
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| 10:54.54 | justinas | Good morning! |
| 10:55.04 | hyper_ch | ws2k3: mod_rewrite probably |
| 10:55.36 | ws2k3 | hyper_ch well i installed that already and added this to my virtualhost file http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/apache-httpd-remove-www-from-urls/ |
| 10:55.44 | justinas | nVidia has finally released a long awaited 295.2 driver (I am pretty happy with that because they fixed the bug that prevented the Geforce 7 cards from detecting internal DFT panels). |
| 10:55.45 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: hmm, im trying now it asked for cc: i just pressed enter |
| 10:55.49 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: now it's loading, |
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| 10:55.58 | ws2k3 | but it still isnt removing the www and yes i restarted my apache2 |
| 10:56.03 | hyper_ch | Snake1: well, if you get the email, then its fine |
| 10:56.06 | justinas | When can we expect the new driver to be in the repo? |
| 10:56.06 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: should i hit ctrl +d ? |
| 10:56.22 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: hmm nothing yet in my gmail |
| 10:56.27 | hyper_ch | ah, it wants a body message.... just type afwe things and press enter |
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| 10:56.54 | hyper_ch | I haven't used the mail command for ages.... try then with ctrl-d |
| 10:57.28 | Chelsea__ | Hi all, what do people use to make pretty pdf's of (php) code? |
| 10:57.37 | hyper_ch | Chelsea__: fpdf |
| 10:57.39 | hyper_ch | Chelsea__: and fpdi |
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| 10:57.47 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: hmm still nothing :'( |
| 10:58.20 | hyper_ch | Chelsea__: and tcpdf looks also nice but haven't tested it yet |
| 10:58.37 | ws2k3 | ? |
| 10:58.49 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: Cannot parse address `hello hello world' (while expanding `hello hello world'): Format of RFC822 object is bad |
| 10:58.53 | Snake1 | :S |
| 10:59.28 | petemc | ws2k3: i use ServerName foo.com \n ServerAlias www.foo.com , when someone visits www.foo.com it goes to foo.com |
| 10:59.36 | hyper_ch | mail -s "subject" user@domain.com [ENTER] |
| 10:59.54 | petemc | echo test | mail -s test user@host |
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| 11:00.06 | Chelsea__ | hyper_ch, Hmmm... Sorry for not beeing clear. I meant, something on the lines of "tidy". Just to make the code, syntax highlighted, and converted to pdf. |
| 11:00.20 | eagles0513875 | talk about annoying somiaj for some reason trying ot use my wifi to install it doesnt pick up my wireless router |
| 11:00.26 | eagles0513875 | it seems to only work with access points |
| 11:00.43 | hyper_ch | TYPE SOME TEXT AND THEN cTRL-d |
| 11:00.44 | hyper_ch | AND AGAIN CTRL-D |
| 11:00.50 | Snake1 | mail -s test myname@gmail.com |
| 11:01.10 | hyper_ch | Chelsea__: well, look at those pdf generation libraries... |
| 11:02.03 | hyper_ch | Snake1: www.howtoforge.com has some good tutorials for dovecot / postfix / debian... gotta go now but have a look there |
| 11:02.26 | themill | Chelsea__: are you wanting to turn php source code into pdfs using any random utility? |
| 11:02.33 | W00d5t0ck | I have set up a local package repository on one of our servers, which serves only via HTTPS. The server has a certificate signed with a local CA. This CA is installed under /usr/local/share/ca-certificates, and update-ca-certificates ran successfully, and the certificate appears under /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt, but apt-get update says "server certificate verification failed" |
| 11:02.45 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: hmm does not work to send out.. crap |
| 11:03.02 | W00d5t0ck | When I install the same CA in my browser, it can download pages from that server with no problems at all. |
| 11:03.03 | hyper_ch | Snake1: better start over then... any reason why you want to store email in mysql? |
| 11:03.18 | ws2k3 | petemc i have tryed but it still displays www. |
| 11:03.20 | W00d5t0ck | Is it an APT bug, or did I miss something? |
| 11:03.38 | ws2k3 | i u want i can bastebin my vhost file |
| 11:03.40 | petemc | ws2k3: works for me |
| 11:03.40 | themill | W00d5t0ck: I don't know what CA the https method for apt uses. BTW you know that https for apt doesn't actually offer any additional security over signing the repository? |
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| 11:03.54 | Chelsea__ | themill, right. I have a bunch of code, and it needs to be printed (not my idea ;)). |
| 11:04.04 | W00d5t0ck | W: Failed to fetch https://ithelpdesk.brokernet-group.local/repos/apt/debian/dists/squeeze/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none |
| 11:04.14 | W00d5t0ck | It says the CAfile is the one I mentioned |
| 11:04.19 | hyper_ch | ws2k3: did you restart apache? |
| 11:04.29 | ws2k3 | http://pastebin.com/HgHJrFT8 |
| 11:04.30 | Chelsea__ | themill, Tidy can't seem to make pdfs of it, and has trouble with linewrapping. |
| 11:04.31 | ws2k3 | yeah i did |
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| 11:04.53 | hyper_ch | ws2k3: enable the mod_rewrite log... there's a directive for that and check if it's even called |
| 11:04.54 | W00d5t0ck | themill, yes, I know, the HTTPS is just because of the server settings, because of local security considerations, the server should not server plain http requests |
| 11:04.56 | nsadmin | W00d5t0ck see if one of the log files say anything (on server and client) |
| 11:05.32 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: hmm |
| 11:05.35 | Snake1 | i got it working now. |
| 11:05.38 | themill | Chelsea__: a2ps can do an amount of syntax highlighting (I think). then ps2pdf. There are plenty of editors that can print syntax highlighted code too (kwrite/kate etc -> print to pdf) but if you have a lot of files that might be a little tedious |
| 11:05.47 | Snake1 | hyper_ch: no strange message when i ran mail command |
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| 11:06.10 | W00d5t0ck | nsadmin, nothing in messages, syslog, apt/* |
| 11:06.31 | W00d5t0ck | the only error message is that the one I pasted a minute ago |
| 11:06.33 | nsadmin | what does the server log to? |
| 11:06.56 | debian2 | hello can anyone help to add a new ip address on my vps via network/interfaces ? |
| 11:07.01 | ws2k3 | hyper_ch i need to enable that in httpd.conf ? |
| 11:07.07 | hyper_ch | Snake1: going to host multiple domains and stuff? |
| 11:07.29 | themill | W00d5t0ck: apt.conf takes https::CaInfo entries -- have you configured anything there? |
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| 11:08.01 | W00d5t0ck | nsadmin, server logs says nothing, either |
| 11:08.13 | W00d5t0ck | themill, no, should I |
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| 11:08.58 | themill | W00d5t0ck: no idea... I've never bothered with apt-transport-https because it's a waste of time ... |
| 11:09.44 | ws2k3 | hyper_ch i have in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf set a logfile and enable the rewrite engine. and the error logfile is being created but he doesnt write any errors in it |
| 11:09.51 | W00d5t0ck | themill, yes, I know, but this time I can not get over it because of some nasty auditors... :S |
| 11:09.53 | themill | W00d5t0ck: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt-https-method-example.conf.gz (and other files in that directory) may also be of use. |
| 11:10.34 | themill | W00d5t0ck: you could serve the repo by ftp... then you wouldn't be serving non-https content from your httpd .... |
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| 11:10.52 | hyper_ch | ws2k3: no entry means it does not process it |
| 11:11.01 | hyper_ch | ws2k3: I'm off now |
| 11:11.07 | ws2k3 | ok thx bye |
| 11:11.32 | W00d5t0ck | themill, thanks for the idea. I try this Acquire::https::* stuff first and then consider FTP if necessary |
| 11:11.34 | ws2k3 | is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf default processed ? |
| 11:13.11 | W00d5t0ck | themill, Acquire::https::Verify-Peer "false"; solved the problem, based on the example config, thank you |
| 11:13.17 | themill | W00d5t0ck: no worries. This looks a lot like the usual problems of conflating encryption and authentication that one always has with SSL stuff. |
| 11:13.31 | W00d5t0ck | Although I still don't understand why it didn't work without it... |
| 11:13.31 | Chelsea__ | themill, a2ps seems to do what I need it to. Thanks for the tip, google didn't help me much. |
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| 11:14.03 | themill | \o/ |
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| 11:21.39 | AkhIL | Anyone uses gnome shell in debian sid? |
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| 11:23.58 | ksuhku | Is there something like screen for graphical apps? |
| 11:24.38 | petemc | nxserver allows you to disconnect and reconnect |
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| 11:25.14 | ksuhku | petemc, thanks, i'll take a look |
| 11:25.45 | petemc | i use nomachines version, i found freenx didnt work as well |
| 11:25.47 | themill | ,i xpra --release squeeze-backports |
| 11:25.48 | judd | Package xpra (x11, optional) in squeeze-backports/i386: tool to detach/reattach running X programs. Version: 0.0.7.31+dfsg-1~bpo60+1; Size: 102.0k; Installed: 496k; Homepage: http://xpra.org/ |
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| 11:25.56 | petemc | and was a giant shell script |
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| 11:26.48 | SupaYoshi | does rsync always catch difference sbetween fiels? |
| 11:26.51 | SupaYoshi | and back them up ? :) |
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| 11:27.06 | ksuhku | thanks, themill |
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| 11:28.43 | shp | hi |
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| 11:29.29 | shp | sometimes when i try to start a song from totem or vlc, the song does not play, it stays blocked at 0:00 s, i can click on play etc... nothing happens, i'm forced to restart xorg |
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| 11:32.57 | shp | on vlc it plays but there is no sound ... |
| 11:33.48 | shp | but sound is still on google chrome |
| 11:33.57 | pksadiq | shp: have you started jackd? |
| 11:34.11 | shp | what's jackd? |
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| 11:35.44 | pksadiq | shp: ok, ignore it, in vlc preferences, try changing the Audio output to default or alsa |
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| 11:39.02 | shp | it does not work pksadiq |
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| 11:39.57 | kripz | how can i reconnect to a lost ssh session? it still shows up as pts/0 |
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| 11:41.21 | haole | hello there... i'm trying to install debian squeeze in a computer of my lab, but the installation won't detect its disk... i remember installing debian in this machine once, and that i had to input some extra parameter in the kernel command line, but i lost this magic command... anyone might know a candidate for what this command could be? |
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| 11:50.43 | nsadmin | haole, so you can run the installer? |
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| 11:51.45 | nsadmin | I'm about to reboot... one thing you can do is use a spare usb drive and install onto that, and then copy the installation onto your internal when you can access it |
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| 11:54.23 | haole | nsadmin: yes... i just found out the magical words: pci=nomsi |
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| 11:54.27 | haole | then the disks show up... thanks |
| 11:55.54 | dutchfish | kripz, the answer is not. But next time use screen. |
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| 11:57.06 | eagles0513875 | hey guys |
| 11:57.34 | eagles0513875 | what would i need to do to setup my own repository so that users can connect to it and download packages i provide? |
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| 11:58.45 | nsadmin | haole, so, it would be good right now to get a blank notebook (the paper kind where you write in it with pen or pencil) and write out everything you do when you try to install |
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| 11:59.17 | nsadmin | also good to find out what that pci= thing means and what it does |
| 11:59.29 | nsadmin | and write that in your notebook too |
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| 12:00.09 | nsadmin | eagles0513875, is that a riddle?! umm, a computer? |
| 12:00.28 | nsadmin | I'm rebootin! |
| 12:00.37 | eagles0513875 | nsadmin: obviously a computer but im saying is there a package to install that sets them up etc |
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| 12:01.11 | nsadmin | look into dpkg-scanpackages and dpkg-scansources |
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| 12:01.19 | dutchfish | eagles0513875, http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
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| 12:02.48 | apt-getter | good morning everyone |
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| 12:03.34 | apt-getter | ok then |
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| 12:04.25 | themill | dpkg: tell eagles0513875 about own repo |
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| 12:07.39 | dutchfish | eagles0513875, also http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286 |
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| 12:07.50 | cgc | hi everyone |
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| 12:08.50 | cgc | I've had a pxe auto install server set up for some time, but I went to install lenny from it today and it keeps failing trying to download the installer, it seems to be having signature problems... |
| 12:08.55 | cgc | anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 12:10.18 | cgc | the error in syslog is along the lines of, can't check signature, public key not found |
| 12:10.36 | cgc | and this happens no matter what mirror i try to install from |
| 12:11.00 | lautriv | i don't get the package-descriptions albeit AcqireTranslation is set.......any solutions ? |
| 12:11.05 | DelTree | maybe some link to the fact that lenny is dead ? |
| 12:11.47 | dutchfish | cgc, There isn't a way to do it. The only way you can force it is to load the Lenny iso via PXE. There isn't a way to force the netinstaller to grab an older version because it actually grabs and writes the newest version of the aptitude sources.list. |
| 12:12.22 | eagles0513875 | ty dutchfish |
| 12:12.28 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 12:12.49 | cgc | so I have to use squeeze from now on? :( this means I have to create a custom initrd because the squeeze one doesn't seem to recognize my hd :( |
| 12:13.23 | lautriv | cgc, unlikely.......what controller ? |
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| 12:13.57 | dutchfish | cgc, why you want to roll out oldstable? if so, you have to let your PXE server the latest lenny iso. That is however cumbersome and not desired. |
| 12:14.01 | ksuhku | cgc, you know lenny is EOL? |
| 12:14.36 | cgc | IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO]) |
| 12:15.12 | cgc | i think... i'm assuming its the same as aanothr machine of the same model |
| 12:16.23 | cgc | I guess I will have to go back and check, so the squeeze initrd contains the same drivers? |
| 12:16.36 | cgc | if so, i guess there must be something else wrong |
| 12:18.02 | Argafal | hi folks. i'm looking for something to read the status of my disks from a hardware raid controller. lspci claims the card is a "LSI Logic / Symbios Logic LSI MegaSAS 9260 (rev 05)". The machine is an IBM x3850 X5 server. |
| 12:18.03 | cgc | dutchfish: i wanted to roll out lenny because the autoinstall was set up for it already, and its not a machine that touches the internet, so it should suffice for what i want it for |
| 12:18.12 | dutchfish | cgc, i gues that depends on the kernel you choose during the netinstall, i doubt that they are the same. |
| 12:18.55 | dutchfish | cgc, you far better off running Debian's stable version no mather what. |
| 12:19.16 | cgc | dutchfish: i guess i should get the lastest netboot file and extract it, the one i have there, i put there some time ago, I just haven't got round to converting all my autoinstalls over to sqeeze yet... |
| 12:19.21 | dutchfish | cgc, lenny's suport is ending soon, anyway |
| 12:19.31 | ksuhku | already ended actually |
| 12:19.44 | dutchfish | ksuhku, thank you for the update. |
| 12:19.51 | ksuhku | np |
| 12:19.54 | cgc | i guess thats why my installs have broken :( time to upgrade to squeeze |
| 12:20.14 | dutchfish | nods |
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| 12:20.20 | ksuhku | applauses |
| 12:20.27 | cgc | well thanks for your help people :) |
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| 12:24.38 | lautriv | can anyone tell me something about the missing package-descriptions ? |
| 12:25.13 | simonlnu | they're not missing, they're in the Translation* files |
| 12:25.42 | lautriv | simonlnu, got that so far but my changes to apt won't grab them anyway. |
| 12:26.10 | simonlnu | you broke it, you get to keep both parts :P. |
| 12:26.36 | simonlnu | what happened/did you do? |
| 12:27.42 | lautriv | simonlnu, changed 70debconf to contain -->Acquire::Languages { "environment"; "en"; }; and added a new rule 99translations where it has a similar line. |
| 12:28.18 | simonlnu | why? you put that in /etc/apt/apt.conf or the conf.d/ dir |
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| 12:29.26 | simonlnu | i did something very similar and put it in apt.conf. works fine. |
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| 12:29.48 | lautriv | simonlnu, /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf and */99translations. regarding to some google-fu |
| 12:30.13 | simonlnu | Acquire { Languages { "en"; }; }; |
| 12:30.32 | simonlnu | that's what i put. |
| 12:30.53 | lautriv | simonlnu, where exactly ? |
| 12:31.02 | simonlnu | apt.conf, like i said |
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| 12:31.38 | simonlnu | dunno why you put in debconf, has nothing to do with debconf |
| 12:32.19 | lautriv | simonlnu, because that was the only reasonable page i found. and i have no apt.conf, just the split one apt.conf.d/ |
| 12:32.27 | simonlnu | has to do with apt-get, aptitude, others that use that, to fetch the Translation files. debconf doesn't do that |
| 12:32.34 | simonlnu | so you make it ;) |
| 12:32.48 | simonlnu | or put it in there, like 99local.conf |
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| 12:34.50 | lautriv | simonlnu, still no change :( |
| 12:35.03 | simonlnu | lautriv: did you update? |
| 12:35.16 | simonlnu | did you also remove it from the other files? |
| 12:35.31 | lautriv | simonlnu, sure, how else would it pull translations ? |
| 12:36.06 | simonlnu | you could even remove it entirely and update. add it in apt.conf, and update again |
| 12:36.57 | simonlnu | i just used the man page =) |
| 12:37.29 | simonlnu | themill pointed someone at translations the other day, and i just went with it |
| 12:37.35 | lautriv | simonlnu, some ppl stated anything which was formerly in /var/lib/apt/lists will be pulled anyway, that is also not the case. |
| 12:38.05 | simonlnu | pulled? pulled down? removed? |
| 12:38.24 | lautriv | d/l ed because former usage. |
| 12:38.32 | simonlnu | yes and no |
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| 12:39.29 | lautriv | simonlnu, and......before your line i had ign: some translation.en.......this vanished also. |
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| 12:41.09 | simonlnu | lautriv: paste.debian.net/156899 |
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| 12:41.29 | simonlnu | that's my apt.conf on this box |
| 12:41.57 | simonlnu | e.g. line from aptitude update: Get: 34 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main TranslationIndex [75 B] |
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| 12:45.18 | lautriv | simonlnu, no dice........Get:25 http://master sid/main Translation-en [3,892 kB] but no description avaliable. |
| 12:45.36 | simonlnu | try it, apt-cache show somepackage |
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| 12:46.01 | simonlnu | it sure fetched it alright |
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| 12:47.23 | lautriv | simonlnu, there i see it but not within dselect.........maybe this old saurus was not changed :( |
| 12:47.43 | simonlnu | dselect.. dunno if it supports it or not |
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| 12:48.30 | simonlnu | yup, works for me. i'm on wheezy |
| 12:48.49 | hyper_ch | hmmm strange, I just can't get the second network card to run |
| 12:48.57 | lautriv | simonlnu, so another thing just for mouse-shovelers. wait a year and the kernel is written in javish crap :( |
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| 12:49.21 | simonlnu | o_O |
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| 12:53.06 | simonlnu | wonders wth that was about ... |
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| 12:55.54 | snozek | hi |
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| 12:56.35 | snozek | in default snmpd.conf there is something like this: 157 extend test1 /bin/echo Hello, world! |
| 12:56.53 | snozek | how can i snmpget/walk this? |
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| 12:57.13 | snozek | i can't get anything but default system info |
| 12:59.11 | simonlnu | you need to tell it to include additional mibs |
| 12:59.21 | simonlnu | the default install is very minimal |
| 12:59.27 | snozek | mhm |
| 12:59.28 | simonlnu | on purpose |
| 12:59.37 | snozek | shouldn't -m ALL fix this? |
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| 13:00.18 | simonlnu | that's pretty much what i have |
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| 13:00.56 | simonlnu | you'll probably need to fetch the additional mibs, if you're using wheezy+ (don't recall if the add'l mibs were still included in squeeze) |
| 13:01.26 | simonlnu | snmp-mibs-downloader |
| 13:01.48 | snozek | ok i will try that |
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| 13:04.06 | fvahid | hi all when run torify emacs error occoured : libtorsocks: The symbol res_send() was not found in any shared library. The error reported was: not found! |
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| 13:05.42 | simonlnu | sounds to me like a missing library |
| 13:05.55 | fvahid | simonlnu: what lib? |
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| 13:09.07 | fvahid | !ping |
| 13:09.07 | dpkg | Sorry fvahid, you're not online. |
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| 13:09.38 | fvahid | ,apt |
| 13:09.44 | fvahid | !apt |
| 13:09.44 | dpkg | Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) is a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude. See also <aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/apt-system-diagram/ |
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| 13:09.57 | fvahid | !apt-cache |
| 13:09.58 | dpkg | apt-cache is a tool with several commands that query the package cache in various ways. To see versions of a package or which repository it came from, use "apt-cache policy foo", "apt-cache show foo" or "apt-cache showpkg foo" (searches for reverse dependencies). "apt-cache search foo" helps to find which packages provide or are related to foo, by searching all package descriptions. See also <which repo>. |
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| 13:10.14 | simonlnu | i don't know, one that has that function |
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| 13:13.23 | furien | http://thehackernews.com/2012/02/fbi-will-shutdown-internet-on-march-8.html |
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| 13:17.57 | bolt | furien: how is this bash related? |
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| 13:18.18 | petemc | itym debian related |
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| 13:18.48 | snozek | simonlnu: thanks. installing snmp-mibs-downloader helped, btw. how is the OID (number) generated? |
| 13:18.49 | furien | bolt, i don`t see anything about bash in my message |
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| 13:19.54 | bolt | furien: sorry, debian |
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| 13:20.13 | simonlnu | snozek: which oid? |
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| 13:20.40 | snozek | simonlnu: .1.3.6.1.4.1.8072.1.3.2.3.1.1.5.116.101.115.116.49 = STRING: "Hello, world!" |
| 13:20.53 | furien | bolt, if someone comes to ur private and say hi it doesn`t have to be bash related, after all ur on a multiplayer notepad and ppl are kevin mitnick around here |
| 13:20.57 | snozek | i know the last digits are "test1" in ascii |
| 13:21.12 | snozek | but how is NET-SNMP-AGENT-MIB translated to the number? |
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| 13:21.40 | simonlnu | look at the mib, and how / what the numbers are assigned to |
| 13:21.55 | bolt | furien: still, #debian-offtopic is over there --> |
| 13:22.04 | cpaq | how does a tv tuner work, do I need cable or can I buy one of those analog to digital converters? |
| 13:22.13 | furien | whatever dude, whatever |
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| 13:22.54 | cpaq | brb |
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| 13:24.05 | haole | hello... does the order of repositories in sources.list have anything to do with the proproty of each one? |
| 13:24.11 | bolt | cpaq: a tv tuner works like any other tuner. it allows a very narrow band of frequencies to pass through. it's also useless if the incoming signal is digital |
| 13:24.14 | haole | i want my local repo to me tried first than the internet repos |
| 13:24.32 | haole | s/proproty/priority |
| 13:24.51 | bolt | !tell haole about pinning |
| 13:25.02 | bolt | also, no, the order is irrelevant |
| 13:25.12 | simonlnu | i've noticed a pattern of last one in sources.list *tends* to be first, but it's not fixed |
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| 13:29.37 | cathper | I'm adding a Depends for a package. Should I update anything else than debian/control? |
| 13:29.55 | cathper | And, can the file be wider than 80 chars, or should I add a newline? |
| 13:30.07 | jelly | snozek: these extend shenanigans are why $employer has custom built net-snmp with "exec" feature still enabled |
| 13:30.25 | simonlnu | you can wrap it. leave a space at the beginning of the new line |
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| 13:30.52 | Faiko | !list |
| 13:30.52 | dpkg | faiko: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 13:31.13 | simonlnu | have fun downloading and installing debian |
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| 13:31.39 | jelly | snozek: it's much easier to just put in a custom OID and keep using it + .101.1 for the value. "exec .1.3.6.1.4.1.15609.666.161.1 postfixMailQueueCount /usr/local/cricket/postfix-queue" |
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| 13:33.16 | simonlnu | wonders if that's why his don't work, missing oid in exec |
| 13:33.47 | jelly | exec does not exist in lenny, squeeze and newer builds |
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| 13:34.51 | jelly | can't remember if snmpd outputs a silly message about it in syslog at start time, or not |
| 13:34.53 | simonlnu | they never worked for me, that's why i'm wondering |
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| 13:37.05 | jelly | our snmpd.conf has them hardcoded like above even though the right thing to do is probably upload MIB files to each machine and use names |
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| 13:40.04 | simonlnu | *nods* |
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| 13:45.43 | Cryp71c | What can I do to go about improving font rendering in debian? In my IDE, several windows fonts I've imported in (Consolas, in particular) look abysmal due to aliasing and (perhaps) other stuff.... |
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| 13:48.18 | DelTree | just don't use non-free fonts... |
| 13:49.11 | ksuhku | Cryp71c, which desktop environment? |
| 13:49.47 | Cryp71c | ksuhku, openbox |
| 13:51.27 | ksuhku | no ideas then besides what DelTre said |
| 13:51.43 | engla | Cryp71c: change your hinting settings? see xrdb -query for current settings and man fonts.conf |
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| 13:53.28 | DelTree | what kind of a font is it anyway ? is it vectorial ? do you have the definitions for the size(s) you intend to use ? if it's a bitmap interpolated to a size it does not exist for, aliasing is no surprise... |
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| 13:54.00 | Cryp71c | DelTree, not sure precisely, one caveat from having just moved from Windows is that I've become obsessed with Consolas. |
| 13:54.10 | Cryp71c | So I snagged the .ttf of it. |
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| 13:54.37 | DelTree | .ttf should be vectorial... |
| 13:54.39 | Argafal | It seems I need to get a kernel with the ipmisensors module. Is there a howto how to get this done? |
| 13:55.07 | Argafal | as in "how to build one myself" on basis of the default-debian configuration just with that module in addition? |
| 13:55.08 | Cryp71c | DelTree, it scales ok (it seems to) but its terribly (TERRIBLY) aliased. |
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| 13:57.04 | DelTree | Cryp71c: Consolas is a departure in the realm of Windows programming fonts because it is designed to work with a specific form of font antialiasing, specifically Microsoft's ClearType technology. |
| 13:57.09 | DelTree | Cryp71c: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolas |
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| 13:58.08 | DelTree | Cryp71c: if I do need to translate... it is designed by microsoft not to work outside windows vista+... |
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| 14:00.02 | Cryp71c | Well, I had it working beautifully in XP, and prior to being forced to move to Windows, I had it working great in my debian env...but I don't know what efforts I took to get it there...I'm looking at other fonts (notably, inconsolata) |
| 14:00.07 | DelTree | Cryp71c: you have plenty of free fonts at http://www.dafont.com/... just pick one... |
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| 14:02.29 | klys | what does cleartype accomplish? |
| 14:03.00 | engla | Cryp71c: try a different font like deja vu mono or inconsolata |
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| 14:03.43 | snozek | jelly: thanks |
| 14:04.12 | Cryp71c | engla, on that note, I've got inconsolata.otf downloaded and in my ~/.fonts directory. I've already run mkfontdir (to be safe) and fc-cache, but I cannot get inconsolata to show up anywhere |
| 14:04.35 | engla | Cryp71c: it's also in debian (at least in testing) |
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| 14:05.08 | Cryp71c | Do I have to do something special to get .otf fonts working? |
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| 14:05.32 | Cryp71c | actually |
| 14:05.38 | Cryp71c | it does show up in the WM |
| 14:05.41 | Cryp71c | just not netbeans... |
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| 14:06.21 | klys | deltree: when introducing new ms hype to #debian mi suggests you explain |
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| 14:08.11 | xispirito-away | Terminus is much better =) |
| 14:08.30 | klys | cryp71c: what do you use for netbeans dev? eclipse? |
| 14:08.56 | xispirito-away | dev? i use emacs |
| 14:09.50 | klys | xispirito: have you done swing stuff? |
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| 14:10.02 | Iridos | klys, subpixel rendering |
| 14:10.14 | xispirito | klys: no |
| 14:10.30 | klys | thx guys |
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| 14:12.17 | klys | mi heard there was a patent on using xml in a hierarchy |
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| 14:12.58 | simonlnu | oh please. first, take it to #debian-offtopic. |
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| 14:17.20 | pleaz | i try npm install mysql-libmysqlclient & get meny errors |
| 14:17.33 | pleaz | npm ERR! error installing mysql-libmysqlclient@1.2.10 Error: mysql-libmysqlclient@1.2.10 install: `make conf all` |
| 14:18.11 | simonlnu | not supported here |
| 14:18.20 | simonlnu | contact upstream |
| 14:18.30 | pleaz | node.js? |
| 14:18.34 | Cryp71c | Hrm, my font.conf is mostly empty...it has some stuff in it, but it looks shorter than it aught to be. Is this normal? Is there a program to create a basic configuration? |
| 14:18.39 | e_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:18.51 | simonlnu | pleaz: their web site, whomever made that module |
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| 14:20.36 | pleaz | fgdg |
| 14:20.44 | pleaz | \/bin/sh: mysql_config: not found |
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| 14:21.47 | pleaz | what i have installed fro mysql-libmysqlclient? |
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| 14:21.54 | pleaz | *for |
| 14:22.38 | Iridos | dpkg, tell pleaz -about apt-file |
| 14:22.45 | Iridos | libmysqlclient-dev: /usr/bin/mysql_config |
| 14:23.09 | pleaz | i don't install mysql |
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| 14:24.37 | Guest16202 | i |
| 14:24.39 | Guest16202 | hi |
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| 14:24.48 | Guest16202 | somebody? |
| 14:24.54 | pleaz | o |
| 14:25.17 | pleaz | russian speak anybody? |
| 14:25.25 | nkuttler | !ru |
| 14:25.26 | dpkg | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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| 14:26.15 | Iridos | foreign alphabets always look a bit like a drunk spider ran through the ink-pot then my screen |
| 14:26.33 | jelly | da! |
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| 14:33.28 | iateadonut | i keep being put on hosts.deny |
| 14:33.35 | iateadonut | even though my ip is on hosts.allow |
| 14:34.35 | ksk | so stop the one who puts you there? |
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| 14:36.29 | iateadonut | i can't figure out why i'm being put there. |
| 14:36.35 | petemc | denyhosts or some such |
| 14:36.40 | iateadonut | i take my ip off of hosts.deny, log in, and then i'm there again. |
| 14:36.52 | iateadonut | i have fail2ban. |
| 14:37.07 | iateadonut | i'm guessing that's what's doing it, although it just started happening recently. |
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| 14:38.29 | ksk | does not matter when you are in .allow anyways, right? |
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| 14:40.27 | Metaphysicist | How to install the Java JRE in Squeeze? Apt-get install is not showing a downloadable jre package. |
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| 14:40.50 | Iridos | yeah, I also thought hosts.allow beats hosts.deny |
| 14:41.03 | Iridos | so you can deny ranges and make exceptions for single hosts |
| 14:41.12 | Iridos | s/deny/ban/ |
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| 14:41.39 | iateadonut | ksk, right, doesn't matter that i'm in .allow |
| 14:41.51 | iateadonut | DenyHosts: Mon Feb 20 14:40:57 2012 | sshd: ip.add.re.ss |
| 14:41.57 | Iridos | dpkg, versions sun-java6-jre |
| 14:41.57 | dpkg | Iridos: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 14:42.02 | Iridos | ops |
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| 14:42.06 | Iridos | judd, versions sun-java6-jre |
| 14:42.07 | judd | Package: sun-java6-jre on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 6-26-0lenny1; squeeze/non-free: 6.26-0squeeze1 |
| 14:42.10 | project2501a | hey guys, i am trying to use dh-make-perl . i get an unexpected behavior. the debian package generated is based from my $HOME and not from ./ . I am building the package as dh-make-perl --build --cpan foo::bar. what am i doing wrong please? |
| 14:42.30 | iateadonut | as soon as i log in, just once, it produces that in hosts.deny. |
| 14:42.53 | iateadonut | i log off, then can't log in again. |
| 14:42.57 | Iridos | Metaphysicist, it's in non-free |
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| 14:43.30 | Iridos | until squeeze, dunno what replaces it in testing/unstable |
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| 14:44.32 | Lukemob | hello, I've got some question. I'm running 3 DNS servers in cluster.. now when I fell down, the DNS service stopped working. But when one DNS server is off, the domain doesn't work. Domains are configured well for NS |
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| 14:46.20 | Iridos | iateadonut, a) shouldn't deny you access if you're in hosts.allow, we said that |
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| 14:46.56 | Iridos | b) if it's fail2ban, that writes logs of what it does. Stop doing what triggers it |
| 14:47.30 | iateadonut | that's right; if i'm in hosts.allow, it shouldn't deny me access. |
| 14:47.40 | iateadonut | that's what it seems to be doing, though. |
| 14:47.51 | iateadonut | checking logs now. |
| 14:48.33 | fasta | What ultimately determines that gdm should run? |
| 14:48.49 | fasta | I want to replace it with a different chrooted gdm. |
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| 14:51.02 | Iridos | fasta, /etc/init.d/gdm*, its soft-links and the config files it accesses? |
| 14:51.18 | jelly | fasta: links in /etc/rc?.d/S??gdm and contents of /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
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| 14:51.46 | Iridos | /etc/X11/default-display-manager was the one I was searching for and didn# |
| 14:51.49 | Iridos | 't find |
| 14:51.51 | jelly | yeah |
| 14:52.03 | Iridos | and my return-key is too big |
| 14:52.05 | Iridos | or my fingers |
| 14:52.26 | jelly | I thought /etc/default/something but then I had an arrow to wait, what |
| 14:53.30 | Keizer | Iridos: I hear ya man I hit three keys at once |
| 14:54.00 | iateadonut | here's my fail2ban log: http://pastebin.com/tua3LAFj |
| 14:54.03 | iateadonut | (for today |
| 14:56.36 | Agiofws | hey |
| 14:56.36 | Agiofws | hello |
| 14:56.46 | Agiofws | is there a way i can list my package according to there size capacity ? |
| 14:57.05 | Agiofws | i have a capacity problem on my root file system |
| 14:57.07 | Agiofws | /dev/sda5 14G 14G 14M 100% / |
| 14:57.10 | petemc | !sort by size |
| 14:57.11 | dpkg | well, sort by size is aptitude search ~i -O installsize -F"%p %I", or see <sort by size sarge> |
| 14:57.23 | simonlnu | or debpigs |
| 14:57.24 | Iridos | iateadonut, stop typing the wrong ssh password |
| 14:57.31 | Agiofws | petemc, synaptic ? |
| 14:57.35 | petemc | no |
| 14:57.39 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 15:00.14 | Iridos | petemc, that seems rather broken... at least if it's indeed supposed to _sort_ |
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| 15:00.56 | iateadonut | Iridos, i'm using a key. |
| 15:01.02 | petemc | !factinfo sort by size |
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| 15:01.03 | dpkg | sort by size -- last modified at Wed Jan 6 22:15:55 2010 by jelly-home!n=jelly@islands.iskon.hr; it has been requested 102 times, last by petemc, 3m 52s ago. |
| 15:01.24 | Iridos | actually it even looks broken just for display... there's "k" and "kB", next to unitless numbers |
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| 15:04.06 | Iridos | perhaps the sorting is correct and only the display is broken virtualbox-ose 120 kB sits after python-scipy 34.7 M |
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| 15:07.01 | klys | does it go sid then lenny ? |
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| 15:07.58 | soa2ii | Hi. I need a new version of redmine. Would you recommend installing it using apt-pinning from testing or install it by hand? |
| 15:08.07 | jelly | Iridos: seems to be a bug in output to tty |
| 15:08.31 | jelly | adding | less on squeeze makes it more palatable |
| 15:08.41 | ksk | soa2ii: if testings version is up2date enough i personally would prefer that soulution |
| 15:08.45 | Iridos | jelly, not for me |
| 15:08.55 | Iridos | jelly, the quote was from |less |
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| 15:09.22 | soa2ii | ksk: ok :-) |
| 15:09.35 | jhutchins_wk | soa2ii: The proper, official method would be to backport it, but that might not be necessary if it doesn't have rigid dependencies. |
| 15:09.41 | jelly | Iridos: amusingly, aptitude search \~i -O installsize -F"%p %50I"|less is even nicer, if you ignore all the trailing whitespace |
| 15:09.53 | jhutchins_wk | soa2ii: Generally mixing packages from non-stable releases is a very bad idea. |
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| 15:10.04 | imMute | WRT apt-get itself and dpkg: are the Section, Priority and Essential "tags" on packages used? |
| 15:10.07 | jelly | Iridos: \ is because zsh |
| 15:10.15 | Iridos | jelly, how should that change anything if you don't have a user called i |
| 15:10.22 | Iridos | oh, ok |
| 15:10.33 | Iridos | yeah, I meant the \ |
| 15:10.35 | jelly | Iridos: the %50I change is relevant |
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| 15:11.23 | jelly | Iridos: I have no idea why a shell would change behavior if I do or don't have a user... bash sucks, there |
| 15:12.02 | iateadonut | it seems to have been happening (hosts.deny) when i logged in to two terminals (or a terminal and gui file transfer program) at the same time. |
| 15:12.08 | Iridos | jelly now the unitlless entries disappeared |
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| 15:12.36 | Iridos | jelly, I mean "~i" is special for "home of user i", but of course only when you have a user called "i" |
| 15:12.47 | colo-work | judd, versions gajim |
| 15:12.48 | judd | Package: gajim on i386 -- lenny: 0.11.4-3; squeeze: 0.13.4-3+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 0.14.3-1~bpo60+1; sid: 0.14.4-2; wheezy: 0.14.4-2 |
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| 15:13.04 | jelly | Iridos: nondeterministic behaviour in a shell? Sure why not! |
| 15:13.06 | wdp | Hello. I'm used to do "passwd user" as root to change the password of a user. In debian squeeze i get "current kerberos password:" and i can't change the password of a user |
| 15:13.06 | Iridos | jelly, so strictly one should probably escape stuff like ~i and similar... did I mention the username I always choose is "k"? |
| 15:13.18 | wdp | What do i need to do, to change the password of a user as root? |
| 15:13.22 | jelly | Iridos: feel free to fix the factoid fuss |
| 15:13.36 | Iridos | jelly, I feel the factoid is fine, it's aptitude that's broken |
| 15:13.51 | jelly | factoids ought to work |
| 15:13.53 | iateadonut | but my maxlogins in /etc/security/limits.conf is set to 20 for my user |
| 15:14.20 | Iridos | so should aptitude! |
| 15:15.01 | wdp | ..and, how can i disable this kerberos stuff |
| 15:15.32 | klys | wdp: rm -r ~/.kerberos or similar? |
| 15:15.46 | iateadonut | (incidentally, i had ssh: ip.add.re.ss in my hosts.allow instead of sshd: ip.add.re.ss) |
| 15:15.54 | iateadonut | (that was the problem with hosts.allow) |
| 15:16.03 | wdp | klys, there's nothing like that.. |
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| 15:16.28 | klys | .samba ? |
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| 15:16.33 | wdp | samba is not installed.. |
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| 15:17.02 | klys | it uses kerberos authentication. |
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| 15:17.51 | wdp | If I issue "passwd test" as "root" I'm asked for a kerberos password. I don't use kerberos anyway. And I don't know what password it expects from me. All I did was updating from lenny to squeeze. |
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| 15:18.09 | klys | does it go sid then lenny ? |
| 15:18.15 | wdp | no. |
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| 15:19.04 | klys | ~sid |
| 15:19.04 | apt | it has been said that sid is the unstable version of Debian. Don't use it unless you know what you're doing, or it can break horribly. a kid in "Toy Story" who was "unstable" and would break toys. There's no reason to backronym Debian/sid to "Still in Development", or see sid faq. sid requires use of bts (by design) or ELSE! |
| 15:19.33 | klys | wouldn['t that be wheezy now? |
| 15:19.37 | wdp | (should i say again that i didn't use sid?) |
| 15:19.42 | themill | klys: you need to talk to dpkg not apt. |
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| 15:20.13 | klys | !sid |
| 15:20.13 | dpkg | The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
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| 15:20.48 | klys | nwhat was sid reclassified as before lenny's release? |
| 15:21.05 | eagles0513875 | ok guys im having some annoying issues once i install metacity (compiz) and cairo-dock it seems that gdm doesnt seem to pick it up and list it as an option |
| 15:21.09 | jelly | klys: sid always stays sid. |
| 15:21.12 | wdp | so, nobody can help me? :) |
| 15:21.15 | eagles0513875 | what do i need to do so that it gets listed on the gdm login screen |
| 15:21.28 | klys | jelly: then what is wheezy? |
| 15:22.04 | jelly | klys: only the testing releases become stable; then a new testing release is introduced |
| 15:22.29 | jelly | klys: /msg dpkg wheezy; /msg dpkg testing |
| 15:22.30 | klys | ok, was it sarge then lenny ? |
| 15:22.41 | jelly | klys: /msg dpkg release history |
| 15:23.10 | Iridos | wdp, we're all still busy thinking very deep thoughts about your question |
| 15:23.21 | wdp | Iridos, of course. |
| 15:23.26 | Iridos | :D |
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| 15:25.03 | Iridos | wdp, really! I was thinking of suggesting to do something like "dpkg -l |grep -i ii.*kerberos", but actually on my system I get 12 packages that way, so that's a bit useless |
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| 15:25.38 | klys | apt-cache <something> /etc/pam.d/kerberos |
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| 15:25.54 | jelly | Iridos: see there, how can you even use * unquoted and unescape? That's just unsightly |
| 15:26.12 | wdp | klys, in my system, is no such file (/etc/pam.d/kerberos) |
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| 15:26.32 | Iridos | jelly, how can you write a factoid with unquoted "~"! on my kbd, ~ is even on the same key as *! |
| 15:26.50 | jelly | Iridos: my heart weeps |
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| 15:26.53 | themill | wdp: can you pastebin /etc/pam.d/common-password |
| 15:27.10 | wdp | ah. |
| 15:27.14 | wdp | there's kerberos stuff in. |
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| 15:27.35 | wdp | http://pastie.org/3421025 |
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| 15:27.41 | Iridos | jelly, I think it's extremely unlikely that a file that matches ^ii.*kerberos is present _anywhere_ |
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| 15:27.57 | wdp | themill, i guess, line 2 causes this stuff? |
| 15:28.12 | klys | ~kerberos |
| 15:28.12 | apt | well, kerberos is a cross-platform networked security and authentication system for accessing services. http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/, or not so well supported in debian, or getting better slowly in debian woody/sid |
| 15:28.38 | klys | iirc, the packages are krb5-* |
| 15:29.01 | jelly | Iridos: unsafe!!1 |
| 15:29.08 | fasta | What does this command do? The manpage is not specific enough: mknod tty8 c 4 8 |
| 15:29.11 | themill | wdp: yeah, deleting that line *should* be safe, but I'm not sure why you've got it at all which makes me slightly nervous. (Also check in the other /etc/pam.d/common* files. |
| 15:29.24 | fasta | In particular the 4 and the 8. |
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| 15:29.31 | Iridos | unaliases jelly's rm |
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| 15:29.59 | wdp | themill, i got it in all of my debian installations |
| 15:30.08 | wdp | themill, can you paste your's please? |
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| 15:30.48 | themill | wdp: hmm. what does "pam-auth-update" tell you is enabled? |
| 15:31.15 | wdp | kerb |
| 15:31.17 | wdp | lemme disable it there |
| 15:31.28 | wdp | aaah |
| 15:31.32 | wdp | themill, thanks! |
| 15:31.41 | themill | make sure you keep that root session open and test logging in with a different session |
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| 15:32.03 | wdp | yeah, it works :) |
| 15:32.48 | bellman | my motherboard, like many MicroATX boards.. has 3 audio jacks: Speaker (Green), line in (blue), microphone (pink). Where do I connect REAR speakers? |
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| 15:32.59 | somiaj | fasta: they are the Major and Minor node, though with udev you shouldn't be needing to manually make those in most circustances. |
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| 15:33.10 | Iridos | fasta, minor and major number of the device - the manpage DOES say, in SYNOPSIS |
| 15:33.17 | fasta | somiaj: that is what the manual said, yes. |
| 15:33.20 | wdp | bellman, there's a nice application and probably a better channel for you. #alsa - the app i'm talking about is speaker-test |
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| 15:33.41 | fasta | somiaj: however, if I tell anyone on the street that, they won't have any clue what I am talking about. |
| 15:33.56 | wdp | bellman, using "speaker-test -c 6 -t wav" it will make sound on all 6 speakers (if you plugged them in) and tell you which one it is. |
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| 15:35.03 | fasta | somiaj: as such major and minor number is just gibberish and has no place in a technical manual; that manual is there to explain someone who doesn't know all the intricate details what something is. |
| 15:35.17 | somiaj | bellman: depends on the driver used. Usually they detect what is plugged into them and act accordinally. Some drivers allow for a bit more configuration of what the pots do. |
| 15:36.02 | fasta | So, what are these numbers? |
| 15:36.22 | somiaj | fasta: the manual for mknod assumes you understand what a device file is and thus already know what the major and minor number mean. The manual is for the syntax of making device nodes, not explaining what they are. |
| 15:36.34 | themill | fasta: no, the manual pages are usually a quick reference for someone who already knows what these things are and just wants to know how to use this tool |
| 15:36.50 | somiaj | fasta: they are used to tell talk to the kernel so it knows what 'device' that file corresponds to. http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=MContent&pageid=94 is one thing I found. |
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| 15:37.18 | wdp | thanks again. ciao. |
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| 15:37.41 | fasta | Are these instructions still correct? http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 15:37.52 | somiaj | fasta: "The best overview of all the major and minor numbers is in the /usr/src/linux/Documentation. The devices.txt is considered the "authoritative" source for this information." |
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| 15:38.31 | fasta | somiaj: then the manpage should have said that. |
| 15:38.57 | fasta | somiaj: it should be possible to use a system without internet access, although everyone has it these days. |
| 15:39.27 | somiaj | fasta: you sure like to complain, why not write a patch for it and send it in if you belive so. You shouldn't be needing to make device files in the first place |
| 15:39.33 | engla | fasta: everyone we can hear about has internet access :-) |
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| 15:39.44 | simonlnu | laughs |
| 15:40.01 | fasta | somiaj: so the instructions are not up to date? |
| 15:40.27 | Iridos | fasta, a manpage can't explain all underlying concepts of unix, just because the command it describes touches on them |
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| 15:41.08 | fasta | Iridos: a file is a concept, the rest are details. |
| 15:41.25 | Iridos | all the better not to burden the manpage with such details :) |
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| 15:41.59 | klys | bellman: do you know about spdif? |
| 15:42.01 | Iridos | fasta, anyway, it doesn't matter... if and when ever you have to make a device node, you have to know it's minor and major number... you don't really have to understand what they are, though :) |
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| 15:42.31 | bellman | not really. i have analog speakers. in fact they are just 2 pairs of regular 2 channel speakers |
| 15:42.49 | klys | thx anyway |
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| 15:44.53 | Iridos | fasta, on un*x systems, pretty much everything is "a file"... one could say that's a unix concept :) |
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| 15:45.13 | fasta | Iridos: didn't I just say that? |
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| 15:45.36 | fasta | Iridos: apparently, the 4 is just a hardcoded constant. |
| 15:46.02 | steampunkey | any reccomendations for a middle-end MBO, proc(64 bit, multicore) and 3D configuration that would run entirely independently of the non-free repo? |
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| 15:47.06 | cockroach | steampunkey: 3d runs reasonably well with the free radeon drivers, not perfect though |
| 15:47.24 | steampunkey | cockroach: and non-free firmware |
| 15:47.46 | cockroach | steampunkey: ah, damn, the firmware. i keep forgetting about that. sorry for the noise then. |
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| 15:48.20 | gnarface | steampunkey: you're not gonna have any decent modern 3d support. only the older ati cards are *fully* supported by the radeon driver on any level compared to that of windows |
| 15:48.22 | steampunkey | np, thanks for the try |
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| 15:49.08 | gnarface | steampunkey: quake 1 would still be smokin, but for quake wars you'd still need binary gunk drivers |
| 15:49.16 | steampunkey | gnarface: i don't need it for "new games", i need it for a smooth HD display (maybe dual-head) |
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| 15:49.37 | gnarface | steampunkey: as long as by "smooth HD" you don't also mean "in Flash" |
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| 15:49.50 | steampunkey | i don't. note the "no non-free" above ;-) |
| 15:49.50 | cockroach | last time i tried quake wars i still had some texture issues and awful fps - not sure whether it works better now :) |
| 15:49.56 | somiaj | steampunkey: you may want to note there is a slight difference between the non-free firmware and a non-free binary driver like fglrx. So depending on your idea of non-free the firmware approach may be just fine. |
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| 15:50.30 | OldParr | how do i know which device is in ata4 ? |
| 15:50.41 | steampunkey | somiaj: i've been on and off the firmware for a few years now. i'd like to avoid the non-free repo completely in the future |
| 15:51.28 | somiaj | steampunkey: then you have to be very picky about hardware. I basically see the non-free firmware as part of the hardware (it is just shipped as a file instead of hardcoded on the chip). |
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| 15:51.32 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 15:52.19 | babilen | steampunkey: It is very hard to find recent hardware that works entirely without firmware. Not impossible though. You might want to aim for intel graphics (i7) and a NIC/wifi adaptor that does not need firmware. That should give you more than decent 3D performance and a no-non-free system. |
| 15:52.23 | gypsymauro | I've a folder with this permissions: drwxrws---+ how can I replicate ? |
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| 15:52.44 | babilen | gypsymauro: cp -a, or what do you mean by replicate? |
| 15:52.44 | steampunkey | somiaj: in an attempt to not shoot myself in the foot, i went with the in-between position of Stallman, who says if it's on the hardware then it's hardware. It doesn't make much sense, but that's where I'm at now. |
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| 15:53.26 | steampunkey | babilen: thanks for the suggestion, i'll google it. expensive? |
| 15:54.29 | babilen | steampunkey: As expensive as a decent mainboard + recent processor was for the last 10 years I would guess :) (haven't checked, ...) -- Intel on-board graphics is more than adequate for a wide variety of tasks and your best bet these days |
| 15:54.29 | gypsymauro | babilen: with chmod I mean, I want to apply same permission on another folder, and I suppose I've to use getfacl/setfacl too |
| 15:55.55 | klys | みだそひ |
| 15:55.57 | babilen | gypsymauro: You want to set SGID -- That can be done with, for example, "chmod g+s foo" |
| 15:56.01 | babilen | !jp |
| 15:56.02 | dpkg | Japanese speakers: please use #debianjp on irc.debian.or.jp or speak English here. |
| 15:56.06 | babilen | klys: ^^^ |
| 15:56.07 | somiaj | steampunkey: good luck with that. (: |
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| 15:56.25 | steampunkey | somiaj: thanks mate. |
| 15:56.29 | klys | can you see the unicode? |
| 15:56.36 | klys | can't |
| 15:56.40 | cockroach | can |
| 15:56.47 | gnarface | i saw it klys |
| 15:56.51 | Iridos | no polls |
| 15:57.13 | klys | i couldn't backspace it anyway |
| 15:57.17 | babilen | klys: No problem here -- You are most likely missing proper fonts. And please do not poll, if you have a problem with the rendering of CJK characters just ask. |
| 15:57.40 | gypsymauro | tank you babilen |
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| 15:58.10 | Iridos | actually... if I can see some unicode characters, is there a simple way to determine what font provided them? |
| 15:58.33 | babilen | I am not aware of one :-/ |
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| 16:01.37 | engla | Iridos: yes, you can check in gucharmap, click on the glyph there |
| 16:01.52 | babilen | But I guess that all that klys has to do is to install, say, xfonts-intl-asian (or xfonts-intl-japanese) + maybe some nice truetype fonts like thos from the ttf-kochi-* -- /me recommend "apt-cache search japanese font" and to take it from there. No idea what klys problem really is and what (s)he uses Japanese for. |
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| 16:01.58 | babilen | engla: yay! |
| 16:02.37 | klys | is not using X (android()) |
| 16:02.41 | engla | Iridos: (right-clikc), pretty hard to discover |
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| 16:03.03 | babilen | klys: Please elaborate - You are using Android and not Debian? |
| 16:03.06 | Iridos | engla, ooh :) |
| 16:03.19 | klys | debian irssi on andriod WM8650 |
| 16:03.25 | Iridos | engla, I knew gucharmap ... now only gotta find a way to search for a certain glyph |
| 16:03.36 | Iridos | ah, there _is_ a search function |
| 16:03.38 | Iridos | \o/ |
| 16:04.20 | OldParr | how do i know which device is in ata4 ? |
| 16:04.26 | babilen | How does this show me which font is used to render that glyph? |
| 16:04.31 | Iridos | 🙈🙉🙊 |
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| 16:04.44 | Iridos | engla, hm, it can't find the 1st of those, though... ends up on an empty square |
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| 16:05.00 | engla | babilen: right-click the glyph? |
| 16:05.14 | GarySteers | hello all, I have an old X6381-IDS, can Debian be installed on this? |
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| 16:05.51 | babilen | engla: That shows me which font gucharmap uses (presumably) not some random other application (in this case urxvt) -- I thought that was what we where after, but gucharmap still comes in handy. |
| 16:06.13 | babilen | And it is "Sazanami Gothic" \o/ |
| 16:06.40 | babilen | urxvt uses a different font (monospaced one) though, but I have no idea how to figure out what it actually uses. |
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| 16:07.06 | engla | babilen: well I'm not surprised gucharmap can only tell which font itself uses |
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| 16:07.35 | babilen | engla: Yeah, so am I. Hence my initial "I am not aware of a way" |
| 16:07.38 | klys | babilen, is this your consolefont? |
| 16:07.58 | klys | ~lct |
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| 16:08.38 | babilen | klys: What is my consolefont? I use urxvt with terminus + WenQuanYi Zen Hei ... The latter is a Chinese font, but might actually be used to render Japanese kanji too |
| 16:09.01 | babilen | klys: "urxvt.font: xft:Terminus:size=12,xft:WenQuanYi Zen Hei:size=1" in ~/.Xresources |
| 16:09.11 | klys | is it compatible with linux-console-tools? |
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| 16:09.34 | babilen | klys: Unfortunately I do not speak/read Japanese as well, so I am not that well versed when it comes to Japanese font. |
| 16:09.42 | babilen | klys: Is what compatible? |
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| 16:09.53 | klys | rxvt |
| 16:10.03 | babilen | klys: Are you running a Debian chroot on Android? |
| 16:10.12 | klys | yes |
| 16:10.12 | babilen | No, urxvt needs X |
| 16:10.47 | klys | most of the andriod stuff is chroot to /system so debian has / |
| 16:11.34 | babilen | klys: Well, I have never tried to type/see Japanese in my console -- But lets see how it works for Chinese. |
| 16:12.24 | babilen | klys: No, I can (at least with my current configuration) not read Chinese in the console. Do you speak Japanese? |
| 16:12.38 | klys | moshi moshi |
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| 16:12.46 | Iridos | engla, funny... it shows "dejavu sans" for some characters in "Common" that can't be displayed (box with 1CD3) |
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| 16:13.23 | engla | Iridos: well it seems to display that for everything it doesn't know. The box/unknown glyph is taken from there? |
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| 16:14.07 | babilen | klys: I assume that your utterance was meant to convey "No, I do not speak or read Japanese" -- Is that correct? |
| 16:14.08 | Iridos | engla, oh, it seems to print that for all in "common" |
| 16:14.12 | klys | \does it interest you to display unicode on the console/ |
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| 16:14.53 | babilen | klys: What are you trying to achieve and what can we help you with? It is irrelevant if we have an interest in CJK on the console for us to help you with that. |
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| 16:16.12 | rypervenche | Actually, I have an interest in that. I use zh_TW as my locale and only get question marks in my TTYs. |
| 16:16.30 | klys | DO YOU KNOW OF THIS COMMAND; zygote |
| 16:16.36 | klys | whoops |
| 16:16.44 | babilen | yeah, I get fancy boxes :) |
| 16:17.01 | Synthead | I just installed a minimal debian installation from cd1, and in running apt-get install ssh, I am prompted to insert the cd again. I want it to install from the network. what do I do? |
| 16:17.15 | klys | rypervenche: check the website for lct |
| 16:17.17 | babilen | !tell Synthead -about make squeeze sources.list |
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| 16:17.41 | Synthead | babilen: ? |
| 16:18.22 | steampunkey | is there anything that transparently (and securely?) encrypts a whole partition on a stick, then autoexecs on "all major OSes" and asks for password before mounting them? |
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| 16:19.57 | klys | steampunkey: start with pgp, check crackstation.net for advice on sha256 |
| 16:20.08 | Synthead | babilen: ok, I commented out the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list and it installed :) |
| 16:20.16 | babilen | Synthead: You should have received a private message from out bot which tell you which entries you should have in your /etc/apt/sources.list for squeeze -- Check your windows/tabs |
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| 16:22.10 | Synthead | babilen: ahhhh, cool, thanks |
| 16:22.16 | Synthead | babilen: that helps a lot |
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| 16:24.34 | babilen | Synthead: You are welcome -- If you need further help paste your sources.list to http://paste.debian.net and give me the URL. Good luck! |
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| 16:25.18 | me-1 | hi...I want to prepare Debian inslation cd . I am using windows 7 |
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| 16:25.51 | klys | www.debian.org |
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| 16:29.29 | rypervenche | klys: I can't find anything on lct. |
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| 16:36.27 | k-rAd | may a debian op please excuse me and offer me a second chance at good behavior in #debian-offtopic ? |
| 16:36.57 | abrotman | k-rAd: not a topic for this channel, msg one of the ops for that channel |
| 16:37.01 | themill | k-rAd: I removed the ban a couple of days ago. Please don't make be regret that decision. |
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| 16:39.30 | fasta | I have the following line in inittab: 8:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/chroot /sid-root /sbin/getty 38400 tty8 Now, I did init q and ... nothing happens on tty8. |
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| 16:40.13 | fasta | I had expected it to create something like Welcome to sid user: or something like it. |
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| 16:46.39 | somiaj | fasta: all that does is make a new tty which is already chrooted into your sid-root |
| 16:46.48 | somiaj | fasta: hit alt-f8 (or ctrl-alt-f8) |
| 16:47.07 | fasta | somiaj: I did hit ctrl-alt-f8 |
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| 16:47.39 | fasta | somiaj: but nothing is there. |
| 16:48.19 | somiaj | fasta: do you really want a logon on another tty setup, or would just say opening up a terminal and just typing chroot be fine? |
| 16:48.34 | fasta | somiaj: I want to logon. |
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| 16:49.07 | fasta | somiaj: perhaps I have to call chroot somelogin binary, then? |
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| 16:50.02 | Mephisto | i have a prob |
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| 16:51.04 | Mephisto | sometimes i open windows text docs, i'm using russian so cyrillic is not decoded unless i run gedit or any other text editing up with LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 parameter. How to make it recognize it without switching to russian locale completely (i prefer english interface)? |
| 16:51.28 | Mephisto | same goes for the terminal by the way, it shows question marks if cyrillic is used. |
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| 16:51.59 | Mephisto | i've had this all along, now i'd like to fix that if possible. |
| 16:52.57 | somiaj | Mephisto: from a terminal try 'LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 gedit' |
| 16:53.13 | Mephisto | somiaj, well that's what i do, that's the only thing that works. But how to make it work at once? |
| 16:53.43 | Mephisto | i can even change gedit launcher to open those files correctly, but that translates gedit into russian, but i dont need that |
| 16:53.47 | somiaj | Mephisto: what do you mean work at once? The LANG ist just an envvar that gets read by the application to decide local. |
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| 16:54.07 | Mephisto | somiaj, let me tell you something.. if i switch my system to russian locale everything will be fine |
| 16:54.38 | Mephisto | somiaj, but i don't want that. If i run an app with LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 parameter not only it recognizes the codepage it also translates the entire app into russian |
| 16:54.41 | Mephisto | you understand? |
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| 16:54.59 | ryann | seeing as there are 52 cd images to download, which are _required_ to get debian installed? hopefully just cd1? |
| 16:55.01 | abec0 | Doc in RU, interface in EN... |
| 16:55.13 | Mephisto | abec0, nope, that's the thing! Interface turns russian too! |
| 16:55.17 | Mephisto | abec0, you wanna see? |
| 16:55.22 | abec0 | ryann: Yes. |
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| 16:55.33 | ryann | ty |
| 16:55.37 | Mephisto | abec0, that's how it's been always for me |
| 16:55.56 | abec0 | Mephisto: I was just repeating what you wanted, in case it was not clear. |
| 16:55.57 | somiaj | ryann: you can even get away with the 'netinstall' cd wich is less than 200megs |
| 16:56.04 | abec0 | Was I mistaken ? |
| 16:56.13 | Mephisto | abec0, ok... look... |
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| 16:56.20 | somiaj | Mephisto: I understand what you want, I'm not that familar, but it isn't locale you want to change. |
| 16:56.52 | Mephisto | abec0, somiaj, http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot.png |
| 16:56.56 | Mephisto | somiaj, yep, exactly. |
| 16:57.20 | Mephisto | i want it to recognize the codepage, but NOT translate the app to russian. |
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| 16:57.30 | abec0 | Mephisto: I did understand the problem, then. |
| 16:57.33 | Mephisto | ok. |
| 16:57.36 | Mephisto | so what do i do? |
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| 16:57.48 | abec0 | I have no idea ;-). |
| 16:57.55 | Mephisto | ok :) |
| 16:58.00 | Mephisto | that's better. |
| 16:58.07 | abec0 | ;-) |
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| 16:58.30 | Mephisto | of course i can just run it always with RU UTF-8, but... even change the launcher settings.. but hey.. that's awkward.. |
| 16:58.43 | engla | Mephisto: don't you have a UTF-8 locale normally? cyrillic is not an encoding itself. |
| 16:58.58 | Mephisto | engla, i do have it, it works at least, but only when FORCED |
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| 16:59.15 | Mephisto | i know for sure that if i change my system to russian locale completely (including interface) everything will be fine. |
| 16:59.20 | fasta | somiaj: so, how can I do it? |
| 16:59.28 | engla | Mephisto: you speak of codepages and such things, that's a thing from legacy encodings and does not apply to UTF-8 |
| 16:59.32 | Mephisto | it doesn't matter whether i do it individually for each app or turn the entire thing into russian |
| 16:59.38 | engla | Mephisto: what's your normal locale? |
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| 16:59.47 | fasta | somiaj: AFAIK, I am doing everything as documented in random places on the Internet (as well as in the man page). |
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| 16:59.51 | Mephisto | engla, what do you mean "normal"? |
| 16:59.54 | Mephisto | engla, current? |
| 17:00.00 | engla | Mephisto: regular, default, currently used |
| 17:00.04 | fasta | somiaj: For example, this source: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_system_administration/debian_linux_guides/debian_linux_reference_guide/ch-tips.en_059.html |
| 17:00.05 | Mephisto | engla, EN UTF-8 |
| 17:00.31 | engla | Mephisto: so should that not support the same encoded files as the russian UTF-8 locale does? |
| 17:00.42 | Mephisto | engla, nope. That's what i'm talking about! |
| 17:00.49 | Mephisto | engla, unless i switch to either one or another. |
| 17:00.52 | Mephisto | engla, it's not universal |
| 17:01.04 | Mephisto | engla, i mean... listen. |
| 17:01.18 | Mephisto | engla, those are WINDOWS text files, they maybe not utf-8... |
| 17:01.22 | Mephisto | engla, made in notepad |
| 17:01.27 | Mephisto | engla, maybe they're windows-1251 |
| 17:01.36 | Mephisto | engla, BUT... if i use that parameter it SHOWS it |
| 17:01.55 | engla | shows what? |
| 17:02.03 | Mephisto | docs made in windows notepad. |
| 17:02.07 | Mephisto | shows correctly. |
| 17:02.16 | Mephisto | if i run an editor with RU UTF-8 thing. |
| 17:02.17 | engla | in gedit, if you specify encoding manually? |
| 17:02.20 | Mephisto | yep. |
| 17:02.22 | Mephisto | correct. |
| 17:02.31 | Mephisto | i dunno why, but that's what it is. |
| 17:02.39 | engla | Mephisto: maybe gedit is guessing encodings for you. After all, that's all you can do with legacy encodings |
| 17:02.46 | Mephisto | hm.. |
| 17:03.01 | abec0 | fasta: In french, I found this: http://blog.orniz.org/index.php/post/2009/07/Cr%C3%A9ation-d-un-chroot-sous-Debian |
| 17:03.11 | Mephisto | how come it can't guess it if no parameter is specified?.. |
| 17:03.19 | abec0 | Last part is a line that might work. |
| 17:03.20 | engla | Mephisto: ask gedit |
| 17:03.25 | Mephisto | alright. |
| 17:03.33 | Mephisto | actually, it's not only gedit, but any text editing app. |
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| 17:03.43 | engla | Mephisto: and they all behave the same way? |
| 17:03.47 | Mephisto | engla, yep. |
| 17:03.58 | engla | I'm sceptical |
| 17:03.58 | Mephisto | engla, let me make sure. I'll try libreoffice editor and Abyword. Hang on. |
| 17:04.04 | Mephisto | i'm just sure, but i'll do it just for you. |
| 17:04.18 | engla | don't mind those. those are not text editors |
| 17:04.25 | abec0 | BTW, I would also try to replace a line that is <8, just to see if it is the fact that it is a «plus one» tty that messes things up. |
| 17:04.31 | Mephisto | engla, what are those then? |
| 17:04.40 | themill | Mephisto: can you have another go at explaining what you're trying to do and what's not working. Real output would be nice and if you possibly can, try to explain things in full sentences rather than hitting enter every few words. It makes it really hard to follow you. |
| 17:04.54 | engla | Mephisto: some kind of document editors. They work with .doc etc |
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| 17:05.20 | Mephisto | Alright, let me say it all once more. And, engla, whatever they are they still support txt files. |
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| 17:06.29 | engla | What happens when not in a russian locale? Error message by gedit? |
| 17:06.36 | fasta | abec0: it doesn't. |
| 17:06.45 | fasta | abec0: I did understand the French. |
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| 17:08.10 | Mephisto | My system locale is set to EN UTF-8. Meaning everything is in english. I have problems opening text files made on windows, specifically those which are made in notepad, not .doc files of MS Word or anything. I'm not sure what codepage is used to create docs in notepad, someone told me it's windows-1251, so maybe that's why it doesn't show it. BUT.. if i change system locale to russian or just run a text editor with LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 parameter individually |
| 17:08.11 | Mephisto | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:08.51 | n3lThon | hi, im trying to create the base tree and I get the error: ".. failed : operation not permitted within namingContext" |
| 17:08.52 | engla | sure, that's what we already know |
| 17:08.55 | themill | Mephisto: what does "file somefile.txt" say about one of these files from notepad? |
| 17:09.05 | n3lThon | Im using back-sql. Thanks in advance :) |
| 17:09.07 | Mephisto | themill, let me show you. |
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| 17:09.29 | engla | Mephisto: what's your real locale name, and is it generated (en_US.UTF-8 I guess)? |
| 17:09.50 | engla | Mephisto: check `locale` in terminal, and you realize you can set parts of the locale as you want, for example only LC_CTYPE |
| 17:10.04 | Mephisto | yes, en_US.UTF-8. |
| 17:10.06 | Mephisto | http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot-1.png |
| 17:10.11 | Mephisto | that's what it shows. |
| 17:10.12 | engla | Mephisto: LC_MESSAGES determines which language the interface will be |
| 17:10.26 | Mephisto | (on the right side is russian translation which is displayed as alien symbols) |
| 17:10.35 | Mephisto | engla, now, that's more interesting. |
| 17:10.41 | Mephisto | engla, let me try. |
| 17:10.41 | engla | Mephisto: it's simply guessing encoding wrong. |
| 17:10.52 | themill | Mephisto: and the output from "file English.txt"? |
| 17:11.09 | Mephisto | themill, english is fine. |
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| 17:11.17 | themill | Mephisto: I want to see the output please. |
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| 17:11.29 | Mephisto | themill, wait please. |
| 17:11.37 | themill | engla: it's pretty braindead if it's guessing the encoding of a text file based on the locale :( |
| 17:11.48 | engla | themill: what should it do? |
| 17:11.48 | Mephisto | http://pastebin.com/QJN7wXDU |
| 17:12.04 | engla | themill: there is no such thing as plain text, no one tells you the encoding of the bytes.. What do you do. |
| 17:12.28 | themill | engla: it should be basing it on the byte sequences in the file... and if both locales are UTF-8, why is it randomly picking different encodings? |
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| 17:12.39 | engla | themill: the only structured way of guessing the encoding is looking at LC_CTYPE.. ok so it sees UTF-8 there, the input file is invalid UTF-8, it will have to either make another guess or give up |
| 17:12.49 | engla | themill: guess or give up. |
| 17:12.51 | themill | Mephisto: umm... that's not a system that's set to en_US.UTF-8 |
| 17:13.01 | Mephisto | themill, oh really? |
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| 17:13.20 | engla | hah, exactly as suspected |
| 17:13.25 | engla | Mephisto: use en_US.UTF-8 |
| 17:13.29 | themill | Mephisto: well... have a look at the output of locales there. Do you see en_US.UTF-8? And where's the output of "file English.txt"? |
| 17:13.30 | Mephisto | but i chose it before! |
| 17:13.43 | Mephisto | themill, tell me please, what do you mean by "english.txt"? |
| 17:13.44 | engla | Mephisto: make sure it is generated (locale -a) |
| 17:13.51 | Mephisto | themill, i showed it before |
| 17:14.03 | Mephisto | ok, wait. |
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| 17:14.16 | themill | Mephisto: English.txt is the filename you have for your document... "file English.txt" is a command. |
| 17:14.32 | Mephisto | themill, so what do you want me to do with it? What output? |
| 17:14.50 | Mephisto | http://pastebin.com/HDc3DPDb |
| 17:15.17 | themill | Mephisto: yes... I've asked to see the output of that command several times |
| 17:15.47 | Mephisto | well, is it ok? |
| 17:15.54 | themill | you've not shown it to me... |
| 17:16.08 | engla | Mephisto: does LANG=en_US.UTF-8 gedit work ok? |
| 17:16.18 | Mephisto | engla, i don't think so. Let me try. |
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| 17:16.48 | Mephisto | nope, same thing. In fact, this one is set by default. |
| 17:16.53 | Mephisto | so no wonder there's no change. |
| 17:17.05 | engla | Mephisto: you showed the locale output that said it was not set by default |
| 17:17.19 | Mephisto | ok.. let me set it by default, wait. |
| 17:17.22 | Mephisto | i remember i did it, yes. |
| 17:17.26 | Mephisto | but that didn't matter anyway |
| 17:17.33 | Mephisto | i made it like neutral |
| 17:17.36 | Mephisto | thought it'd help |
| 17:17.40 | Mephisto | but no change. |
| 17:17.50 | engla | with gnome apps you will want to use a UTF-8 encoding |
| 17:18.00 | engla | they have strange bugs otherwise in the C locale |
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| 17:18.19 | Mephisto | now.. remind me how to change the locale... dpkg-reconfigure locale? |
| 17:18.23 | themill | .o0( and we *still* don't know what enoding the file is in ) |
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| 17:18.33 | Mephisto | themill, tell me HOW to check. |
| 17:18.43 | Mephisto | themill, you're just saying "DO IT" but you're not saying how |
| 17:19.05 | themill | Mephisto: I've asked you to give me the output of "file English.txt" several times now. |
| 17:19.36 | Mephisto | themill, i know, but i still dunno what you mean by that. Sorry. Am i dumb or something or it's just not clear what you're trying to say? You want me to open the file and show you what's inside?! |
| 17:19.44 | themill | Mephisto: I've even explained that "file" is a command and that "English.txt" is the filename of your file. How do I know it's your filename... it was in your screenshot... |
| 17:19.50 | themill | no. |
| 17:19.52 | themill | command. |
| 17:19.55 | themill | run command. |
| 17:20.31 | Mephisto | rolling his eyes.. |
| 17:20.59 | Mephisto | man.. ok.. here we are.. only me and that file English.txt. How do you want me to touch it?.. |
| 17:21.28 | Iridos | you could run "locale -a" how can it be so much more difficult to run "file English.txt" instead? |
| 17:21.38 | Mephisto | now i see. |
| 17:21.45 | abec0 | Mephisto: just type «file English.txt» and paste the one-line output here. |
| 17:21.48 | Mephisto | you should've just said type "file English.txt" |
| 17:21.50 | Mephisto | that's it!! |
| 17:21.52 | Mephisto | brilliant dude! |
| 17:21.54 | Mephisto | thanks :) |
| 17:21.59 | Iridos | actually, that's what he did |
| 17:22.01 | Mephisto | Jesus Christ.. |
| 17:22.04 | Mephisto | well i didn't see it |
| 17:22.05 | Mephisto | sorry. |
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| 17:22.16 | Mephisto | now wait please |
| 17:22.41 | Mephisto | English.txt: ISO-8859 English text, with CRLF line terminators |
| 17:22.49 | Mephisto | so it's ISO-8859. |
| 17:23.11 | abec0 | I guess the name file does not appear as a command name so clearly when 1/ you did not know that command 2/ english is not your language. |
| 17:24.01 | Mephisto | abec0, both, but i guess what really kicks in is that i didn't know it's a command. My english is good enough to grasp it. |
| 17:24.11 | engla | Mephisto: it's not ISO-8859, that doesn't encode any cyrillic |
| 17:24.25 | engla | not ISO-8859-1 at least. |
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| 17:25.12 | engla | ISO-8859-5 is a cyrillic encoding |
| 17:25.26 | Mephisto | i pasted what it said. |
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| 17:25.34 | Mephisto | i didn't make this up. |
| 17:25.39 | fasta | I still would like to know how to get a login prompt for a chrooted install of Debian via inittab. |
| 17:26.27 | Mephisto | abec0, anyway, i don't quite get again what you're trying to say. What is this all about? Was it neccessary to say? |
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| 17:28.18 | Mephisto | well? Any ideas? |
| 17:28.22 | themill | it explains why gedit is so confused. There's no way of telling the various ISO8859-* encodings apart. |
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| 17:29.00 | themill | Is there no Tools->Encoding option in gedit? (I never use it because it's too painful for things like this0 |
| 17:29.21 | Mephisto | no, there's none. |
| 17:29.43 | Mephisto | there's option to set a language though. |
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| 17:30.58 | engla | Mephisto: I don't use gedit, but you can choose file encoding in the Open dialog |
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| 17:31.40 | somiaj | fasta: I think tty8 is sometimes used, try what you did but put it on tty9 |
| 17:31.53 | themill | gedit --encoding apparently works too. gedit --list-encodings to find out how to specify them |
| 17:32.08 | Mephisto | ok |
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| 17:32.38 | Mephisto | http://pastebin.com/b2RmD2zc |
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| 17:34.15 | engla | Mephisto: gedit apparently does not support encodings that well (changing etc) |
| 17:34.26 | engla | Mephisto: see this bug report for example https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342918 |
| 17:34.29 | Mephisto | abec0, by the way, keep your language clean too, put some quotes somewhere at least. |
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| 17:35.18 | Mephisto | engla, ok, thanks. |
| 17:35.40 | Mephisto | engla, what i wanted to know is how to solve this... and if it's problematic then it doesn't matter. I wanted to know if it's any possible to do this. |
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| 17:35.54 | Mephisto | engla, it works ok anyway if the system locale is set to russian. |
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| 17:36.25 | engla | experiment with the LC_* variables |
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| 17:36.33 | Mephisto | engla, it's ok, thanks. |
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| 17:36.41 | engla | for example LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.UTF-8 gedit |
| 17:36.57 | themill | have you tried "gedit --encoding ISO8859-5 English.txt" yet? |
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| 17:37.04 | Mephisto | no, not yet |
| 17:37.07 | Mephisto | wait |
| 17:37.46 | Mephisto | engla, your command didn't work. I mean.. no change. Just english interfance and the file is as usual encoded incorrectly |
| 17:38.03 | engla | ok |
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| 17:38.25 | Mephisto | themill, and your thing says this "ISO8859-5: invalid encoding." |
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| 17:38.34 | Mephisto | themill, and displays same old stuff. |
| 17:38.57 | themill | ahh... check your last pastebin again then. Should be gedit --encoding ISO-8859-5 English.txt |
| 17:39.17 | shad0w1e | hey- will 6.0 run properly on an Optiplex 990? |
| 17:40.32 | bliblu | hi, did someone find a job in websites like freelancer.com? does it work? are there disadvantages? thank a lot |
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| 17:42.03 | Mephisto | opened up, no errors reported, but this time it looks even more creepy. |
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| 17:42.10 | Mephisto | i mean same wrong encoding but looks differently. |
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| 17:42.46 | Iridos | bliblu, your method of searching for an appropriate channel to ask this failed |
| 17:43.15 | Iridos | Mephisto, perhaps it's just digital garbage |
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| 17:43.21 | bliblu | :( |
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| 17:43.47 | Mephisto | Iridos, i dunno... oh well. I guess i'll just have to run LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 thing or just convert to russian interface... but that's lame |
| 17:43.59 | abec0 | Mephisto: I was just trying to explain why you did not comply to suggestions, so that people wouldn't get mad at you for bad reasons. |
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| 17:45.25 | themill | It could well be that file got the encoding wrong when it tried guessing |
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| 17:45.33 | fasta | somiaj: nothing. Where are the error messages for inittab placed? |
| 17:45.54 | Mephisto | abec0, it's ok, i'd prefer them call me dumb instead of what you said. I know it's weird, but just personal reasons. |
| 17:46.01 | Mephisto | abec0, thanks anyway. |
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| 17:46.16 | Iridos | no worries, we can do that :) |
| 17:46.20 | Mephisto | :) |
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| 17:46.21 | somiaj | fasta: you can parse though the logs in /var/log |
| 17:46.33 | abec0 | Sorry then ;-). |
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| 17:46.42 | Mephisto | hehe.. yeah, it's alright.. |
| 17:46.45 | fasta | somiaj: I have no idea what to look for. |
| 17:47.35 | fasta | somiaj: Re-reading inittab |
| 17:47.41 | fasta | somiaj: it contains no error messages. |
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| 17:48.45 | sajjadg | hi. I have problem running gnome-shell in wheezy :( I think it's openGL(mesa) problem. the output of glxinfo is an error:X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) |
| 17:48.58 | themill | Mephisto: have a try with some of the other encodings as listed by --list-encodings. Your earlier suggestion of 1252 was a good one so try it. You may as well also try UTF-8. |
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| 17:49.57 | Mephisto | ok, let's see |
| 17:49.59 | somiaj | fasta: I'd do it by trial and error, I have never actually set up a chroot like that (I was always fine just typing chroot /sid_root or using dchroot/schroot to run things inside of it) |
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| 17:50.35 | fasta | somiaj: trial and error without a proper error message is just brute-force. |
| 17:50.47 | MRCracker | hi all, i want to edit history file, where is it? not in ~/.history |
| 17:50.57 | fasta | somiaj: there is nothing intelligent what can be done on a system without proper documentation. |
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| 17:51.25 | Mephisto | 1251 worked |
| 17:51.29 | Mephisto | displayed correctly |
| 17:51.29 | themill | Mephisto: KOI8-R would be another common one to try from your part of the world. No idea if windows notepad would try using it though -- WINDOWS-1252 sounds more likely. |
| 17:51.50 | Mephisto | so what do i do now... change the launcher settings?.. |
| 17:52.10 | Mephisto | so i would decode it always correctly? |
| 17:52.14 | Mephisto | it* |
| 17:53.02 | themill | No, you'd be better of trying to go over to a "UTF-8 everywhere" workflow. If you know a file is 1252 then manually select that from the File->Open dialogue box or from the command line. If it's UTF-8 then you shouldn't need to do anything. |
| 17:53.15 | Mephisto | hm.. |
| 17:53.18 | MRCracker | found, .bash_history |
| 17:53.40 | Mephisto | ok.. but... other text file that i made in gedit before displayed correctly too with that setting |
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| 17:54.31 | somiaj | fasta: you sure love to complain and offer no solutions. Figure out the problem, submit a patch to fix the documentation. |
| 17:54.45 | fasta | somiaj: I support the systems I write. |
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| 17:54.55 | fasta | somiaj: if others do the same, there wouldn't be a problem. |
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| 17:55.48 | Mephisto | oh no |
| 17:55.51 | Mephisto | it's not. |
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| 17:56.02 | Mephisto | shows garbage... so yeah.. you're right |
| 17:56.14 | fasta | If a package cannot be properly supported, it should just be dropped from Debian. |
| 17:56.17 | Mephisto | maybe i should just use separate text editors for each kinda files? |
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| 17:56.24 | Mephisto | like.. notepad that it's included in Wine?.. |
| 17:56.32 | Mephisto | it also doesn't recognize it by the way. |
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| 17:56.35 | Mephisto | shows same thing. |
| 17:57.18 | Mephisto | that's&* |
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| 18:00.22 | somiaj | fasta: what you are doing trying to mix squeeze and sid binaries is not supported by debian. You have unrealistic expectaions about what debian should support. |
| 18:00.43 | fasta | somiaj: I am not mixing anything; that's the whole point. |
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| 18:03.42 | DeM0nFiRe | Hello |
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| 18:06.16 | sajjadg | DeM0nFiRe: hello |
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| 18:06.59 | DeM0nFiRe | Strange, there's an LMMS package in stable and unstable but not testing lol |
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| 18:08.16 | Sevet | does anyone know how i could get mysql cluster 7.2 to compile libmysqlclient18 with versioned symbols? (for packaging) 7.1 used them but 7.2 doesn't seem to, possibly since they've moved to cmake. (7.2 is mysql 5.5 based which seems to have the same problem) |
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| 18:09.04 | abrotman | DeM0nFiRe: why is that strange? |
| 18:09.14 | Sevet | (slightly offtopic but i asked in #mysql and #mysql-ndb but got no answers :/) |
| 18:09.33 | somiaj | fasta: I was able to get it to work just fine from the documenation on tty9, I used "9:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/chroot /squeeze_chroot /sbin/getty 38400 tty9" |
| 18:09.35 | DeM0nFiRe | Well, I would expect the one from stable to be in testing if the one in unstable isn't ready for testing |
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| 18:09.43 | abrotman | DeM0nFiRe: it just means at somepoint, it was removed from testing, and it hasn't made it back yet |
| 18:10.27 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: it's not on topic here, but why in the world would you want to change the symbol versioning of libmysqlclient18? |
| 18:10.40 | abrotman | DeM0nFiRe: re-read what i said |
| 18:10.53 | DeM0nFiRe | I read what you said. |
| 18:11.01 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: you'd have to do magick with rpath, have two libmysqlclient18s, and then do the symbol versioning on top of that. |
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| 18:11.26 | fasta | somiaj: I am using the exact same. |
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| 18:12.12 | fasta | somiaj: (modulo one path) |
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| 18:12.29 | somiaj | fasta: yea I run sid, so I created a squeeze chroot. (: |
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| 18:12.42 | cusco_ | hi |
| 18:12.44 | cusco_ | i just copied a file over another file with the same name |
| 18:12.46 | cusco_ | any changes of getting it back? |
| 18:13.02 | abrotman | DeM0nFiRe: and you're 100% sure the version of LMMS in stable would work in testing? |
| 18:13.53 | Sevet | dondelelcaro: not change, just have it. there's plenty of history in various mailing lists of debian pushing mysql to version their symbols in older versions (one example of why being to avoid segfaults where a program loaded 2 versions of libmysqlclient causing programs to segfault), which they eventually did but now seem to have reversed that decision |
| 18:13.57 | fasta | somiaj: perhaps sid does work and squeeze doesn't? |
| 18:14.13 | fasta | somiaj: perhaps I just forgot some simple step? |
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| 18:14.40 | somiaj | fasta: the second more likely than the first. |
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| 18:14.57 | fasta | somiaj: which instructions did you follow? |
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| 18:15.03 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: yeah, but versioned symbols is something that has to be done across the board; it doesn't do any good to just do it now |
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| 18:15.55 | somiaj | fasta: http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap (I didn't modify my /etc/fstab because I don't want this to be permanate, but I did do all the mounts into the chroot) |
| 18:16.12 | somiaj | fasta: the same one you linked me |
| 18:16.12 | Sevet | dondelelcaro: the current libmysqlclient16 in debian does used versioned symbols. it's only the new libmysqlclient18 in 5.5/7.2 that's not in debian yet (well 5.5 is in experimental) that don't |
| 18:16.38 | somiaj | fasta: oh I also modifed /etc/inittab with an $EDITOR over doing it with echo, but I prefer to do things that way |
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| 18:17.59 | Sevet | dondelelcaro: this is for my ITP for 7.2, and if 5.5 also did it then all other debian packages depending on it could then use those symbols so it would be across the board |
| 18:18.38 | antonionunes | Saudações a todos. Novo no IRC e curioso no Linux. |
| 18:18.45 | fasta | somiaj: and you didn't execute the mknod? |
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| 18:19.15 | fasta | somiaj: I checked that I have the mounts too, I checked that I can execute basically everything I want in the chroot, including getty. |
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| 18:19.47 | fasta | somiaj: when I run /sbin/getty in the chroot with proper arguments, it basically waits forever. Is that normal? |
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| 18:20.57 | somiaj | fasta: no I didn't, the thing never tells you to either |
| 18:20.58 | Sevet | possibly it's not even neccessary any longer though, as the segfault reports in the past were where libmysqlclient and libmysqlclient_r were loaded which used the same symbols, while they've now been merged (libmysqlclient_r is a symlink)... and libmysqlclient16 would be using different symbols too because of its versioning so there couldn't be a 16/18 conflict either, but afaik dh_shlibs does |
| 18:20.58 | Sevet | do some magic with it to figure out dependancy versions |
| 18:21.06 | somiaj | fasta: and as I said in squeeze and later you should not need that |
| 18:21.19 | fasta | [ i.e. create tty8 with `mknod tty8 c 4 8' and run `passwd' ] |
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| 18:21.30 | fasta | This is then simply very confusingly written. |
| 18:21.33 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: ok, so what needs to happen is that the experimental package needs to use versioned symbols; the -cluster package shouldn't be building the mysql client library |
| 18:21.42 | fasta | I do get what they mean now then. |
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| 18:21.58 | fasta | But it is basically wrong. |
| 18:22.08 | qmr | low memory usage web server ... nginx or lighttpd ? |
| 18:22.09 | fasta | It is just a bad comment; that code does something else. |
| 18:23.06 | somiaj | fasta: again this is a fringe thing that is not offically supported, if you want to improve the documentation do so. It is a wiki after all |
| 18:23.07 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: and I'd file a bug against the libmysqlclient18 package to include versioned symbols; it probably isn't doing so yet because it's just an experimental package and no one should be building against it, but it needs to happen before it hits unstable |
| 18:23.21 | Sevet | 'k, that's a good idea |
| 18:23.57 | Sevet | the two are binary compatible now (in 16 they weren't) so using the 5.5 one should be fine |
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| 18:24.09 | fasta | somiaj: I just get the impression that sid is more stable than Squeeze. |
| 18:24.14 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: well, they have to be binary compatible, otherwise they have to use different sonames. |
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| 18:24.25 | Sevet | there's still the same issue in its libndbclient6 though, which would be in its own package |
| 18:24.32 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: same solution |
| 18:24.42 | somiaj | fasta: it is not, I have to fix my sid install every update (anything from little fixes to major fixes from a rescue cd) |
| 18:24.44 | Sevet | well, they have to be binary compatible, otherwise they have to use different sonames -> they should be but they werent :> |
| 18:24.53 | gnarface | fasta: that's an easy mistake to make when you read Ubuntu documentation |
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| 18:25.08 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: yeah, it's unfortunately a common problem; upstreams don't understand what sonames are for and generally have no idea how linking works |
| 18:25.16 | somiaj | fasta: squeeze is extreamly stable, but part of being stable means you have to stick to it's well tested and bug/security fixed package versions |
| 18:25.47 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: it tends to fall to binary distributions like Debian to make upstreams aware of the problem and provide patches |
| 18:25.52 | Sevet | same solution for libndbclient6 to be to file the bug against... the package i'm trying to build? |
| 18:26.23 | Sevet | i'll file a bug upstream and see if that gets a response |
| 18:26.36 | dondelelcaro | Sevet: see http://bugs.mysql.com/file.php?id=1866 for the original bug |
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| 18:26.47 | dondelelcaro | probably someone removed it because they didn't understand what it was doing |
| 18:27.08 | Th0rsten | Hi Guys, just one question are there reasons not to use the testing distribution on a laptop? |
| 18:27.24 | cbmuser | anyone here has experience with converting libraries to Multi-Arch? |
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| 18:28.03 | Sevet | thanks, gotta run now |
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| 18:30.09 | Deesl | HEllo |
| 18:30.13 | Dvorak_ | Hellow |
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| 18:34.19 | somiaj | Th0rsten: do you know how debian works. If after an update of a moving target and you get depends errors from apt, can you manually fix them? If you loose the ability to boot after an update can you use a rescue cd and chroot to recover you system? |
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| 18:34.43 | somiaj | Th0rsten: can you deal with broken packages as abi changes cause unxpected issues (making it so your x won't run) |
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| 18:34.56 | Th0rsten | hmm |
| 18:34.57 | zykotick9 | what is the dpkg keyword for, or similar to, "fix missing conf" factoid? |
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| 18:35.23 | Th0rsten | good question |
| 18:35.39 | Jrz | ug.. libyajl1 is missing on wheezy for xbmc-bin (from debian-multimedia |
| 18:35.40 | somiaj | Th0rsten: if you answer no to any of those questions, run squeeze until you learn how debian works. With squeeze-backports you can easily get support for hardware that requires a newer kernel or xorg. And you can also get some newer versions of packages you want. You can also make your own backports. |
| 18:36.12 | Th0rsten | i think i will stick to the backports then, but i did not even get that kernel running |
| 18:36.13 | somiaj | Th0rsten: i.e. that is why we say don't run testing, it isn't a question of if it will break, but when it will break and how baddly will it break. |
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| 18:36.20 | in2tactics | qmr: nginx |
| 18:36.34 | Th0rsten | i installed it from backports, it is even listed in grub.cfg |
| 18:36.48 | Th0rsten | but still not useable grub only shows the old kernel |
| 18:37.02 | somiaj | Th0rsten: what package did you install and how did you install it? |
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| 18:37.22 | hoxu | !tell zykotick9 about +confmiss |
| 18:37.28 | hoxu | !tell zykotick9 +about confmiss |
| 18:37.35 | hoxu | !tell zykotick9 about confmiss |
| 18:37.42 | zykotick9 | hoxu: thanks |
| 18:37.44 | in2tactics | qmr: you can add the nginx repository and have the latest debian builds of their software |
| 18:38.11 | Th0rsten | dont have the laptop online package was linux-image-3.2.0-0 installed via "aptitiude install -t squeeze-backports <name>" |
| 18:38.20 | qmr | anyone still use apache these days? it seems like nginx is the new hotness ... |
| 18:38.39 | in2tactics | qmr: apache is nice if you need the features imho |
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| 18:39.07 | BadCodSmell | Is there a "mysql_upgrade" command shipped with debian? |
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| 18:40.23 | in2tactics | qmr: i just use nginx for its basic functionality and low footprint and memory usage |
| 18:40.39 | qmr | in2tactics: you have it setup for php? |
| 18:40.58 | in2tactics | qmr: i only use nginx for basic html |
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| 18:42.04 | Th0rsten | ok i just thought about testing but it seems i will try and figure out what is wrong with my kernel as soon i have time. thx for the advice guys. will be back as soon i have time and google could not help me :D |
| 18:42.05 | in2tactics | qmr: but nginx runs php from my understanding, i do not like the debian binaries though, they are old and nginx has their own repository for debian so make sure you look into that if you go that route |
| 18:42.19 | BadCodSmell | ah i figured it out |
| 18:43.00 | qmr | in2tactics: the particular server this is on is centos5 actually. thought I'd force myself to learn it since it's "enterprise-y" or whatever. it sucks. :/ |
| 18:43.21 | izepstan | hi, hello there, i'm tryin to start a virtual xen client, now i have to understand this linux drive mapping thing, my physical drives name something like md1 2 and 3, but in the xen config file i have root = '/dev/hda1 ro' and if i start the machine /dev/hda1 does not exist. but it also won't start if i use the physical drive as root.... someone maybe wanna give me a hint? |
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| 18:44.18 | in2tactics | qmr: sorry no experience here with that distro =/ |
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| 18:45.24 | izepstan | should pastebin some configs/errors? |
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| 18:45.53 | Browncoyote | Hello |
| 18:46.26 | Browncoyote | is anyone in this room? |
| 18:46.30 | izepstan | haha |
| 18:46.32 | in2tactics | nope |
| 18:46.34 | Browncoyote | lol |
| 18:46.38 | Browncoyote | I can not get a user list |
| 18:46.44 | in2tactics | weird |
| 18:46.47 | Browncoyote | installed the gnome gui client |
| 18:46.49 | Browncoyote | silly me |
| 18:46.55 | Iridos | izepstan, /dev/md* are soft-raid devices... they're not physical either :) |
| 18:46.59 | in2tactics | irssi imho |
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| 18:48.11 | izepstan | Iridios, damn. ok and what do you think i have to put as root? |
| 18:48.20 | Browncoyote | so I am new to debian |
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| 18:48.51 | Browncoyote | this is a busy channel |
| 18:48.56 | in2tactics | it can be |
| 18:49.03 | Browncoyote | cool |
| 18:49.10 | Browncoyote | I like to chat |
| 18:49.13 | Browncoyote | or type rather |
| 18:49.16 | Browncoyote | both really |
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| 18:50.23 | remote | hello |
| 18:50.39 | fasta | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.39 | fasta | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.39 | remote | what is the best way to install newer software on a debian installation? |
| 18:50.40 | fasta | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.45 | fasta | somiaj: ... |
| 18:50.51 | Browncoyote | Hello |
| 18:50.54 | remote | i'm running debian stable but i'd like to have python 2.7 and emacs 23 |
| 18:50.55 | antismap | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.59 | antismap | oups :) |
| 18:51.04 | antismap | sorry |
| 18:51.13 | Browncoyote | go to software center |
| 18:51.19 | remote | antismap: you mean "oops" |
| 18:51.21 | fasta | somiaj: so, I have been wasting this time, because ... debootstrap in Squeeze sucks. |
| 18:51.24 | Browncoyote | or apt-get install it |
| 18:51.38 | somiaj | remote: backports |
| 18:52.23 | somiaj | fasta: your issue with getting the tty setup has nothign to do with debootstrap. |
| 18:52.29 | in2tactics | remote: yes you need to add backports |
| 18:53.02 | fasta | somiaj: so, then tell me where it does come from; I am not stupid. |
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| 18:53.09 | remote | ok i've done that but i still only get python 2.5 and emacs 22 |
| 18:53.27 | in2tactics | latest versions are not always available |
| 18:53.35 | fasta | somiaj: it's not like it is hard to execute a bunch of commands after I verified it enough times to check that it is supposed to work. |
| 18:53.41 | remote | latest is emacs 24 |
| 18:53.44 | somiaj | fasta: I have no clue why your inittab isn't respecting that extra tty you added to it. If I did I would have answered you. I was just saying when I did it I didn't run into the issues you did. |
| 18:53.48 | remote | i don't need latest |
| 18:54.03 | fasta | somiaj: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man8/debootstrap.8.html |
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| 18:54.10 | fasta | somiaj: it says it literally here. |
| 18:54.14 | in2tactics | remote: you can always make your own package and provide it to the community :) |
| 18:54.21 | bantamug | Does the version of Chromium in Squeeze work with Google Sync? Keep getting a server busy error, Chrome on another machine works fine... |
| 18:54.21 | fasta | somiaj: I expect Squueze to have the same problems. |
| 18:54.24 | remote | ok |
| 18:54.24 | somiaj | ,versions python2.7 |
| 18:54.26 | judd | Package: python2.7 on i386 -- wheezy: 2.7.2-8; sid: 2.7.2-13 |
| 18:54.32 | somiaj | ,versions python2.6 |
| 18:54.33 | judd | Package: python2.6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.6-8+b1; sid: 2.6.7-4; wheezy: 2.6.7-4 |
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| 18:54.47 | remote | ,versions emacs23 |
| 18:54.48 | judd | Package: emacs23 on i386 -- lenny-backports: 23.1+1-4~bpo50+1; squeeze: 23.2+1-7; sid: 23.3+1-5; wheezy: 23.3+1-5 |
| 18:54.51 | somiaj | remote: seems if you want a nwere version than ptyhon 2.6 you'll have to make your own backports |
| 18:55.21 | remote | weird i don't get to see emacs23 with squeeze backports |
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| 18:56.21 | somiaj | remote: its not in squeeze backports, the version in squeeze is almsot the same as the version in squeeze, so little reason to backport it |
| 18:56.34 | somiaj | remote: not sure on the exact difference betewwn 23.2 and 23.3 but it is probabaly small |
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| 18:57.07 | izepstan | to my concern with my xen client, if i use the sw raid partition in the config file as root, it throws me an error like /dev/mdX does not exist |
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| 18:57.54 | spectie | hey all! |
| 18:58.12 | spectie | does iceweasel 8.0 support HTML5 file stuff ? |
| 18:58.12 | remote | somiaj: i see emacs22 |
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| 18:59.07 | somiaj | remote: judd just told you that the package emacs23 is in squeeze |
| 18:59.11 | dvs | spectie: Why version 8? Why not version 10? |
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| 18:59.18 | somiaj | ,versions debootstrap |
| 18:59.19 | judd | Package: debootstrap on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.10lenny1; lenny-backports: 1.0.25~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.0.26+squeeze1; sid: 1.0.38; wheezy: 1.0.38 |
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| 18:59.42 | spectie | ,versions iceweasel |
| 18:59.43 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-11~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.5.16-11; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-12; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-12; wheezy: 9.0.1-1; sid: 10.0.2-1; experimental: 11.0~b3-1 |
| 19:00.00 | spectie | dvs, that seems to be the most up to date version i have available |
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| 19:00.23 | dvs | spectie: version 10 is in mozilla.debian.net |
| 19:00.32 | spectie | oh |
| 19:00.38 | spectie | i'll try installing the .deb |
| 19:00.50 | somiaj | fasta: the debootstrap from wheezy/sid has no special depends except wget (of any version it seems) so you can easily install a newer debootstrap if you think that is the problem |
| 19:01.07 | spectie | hmm, which version number should i choose ? |
| 19:01.24 | somiaj | fasta: though that should only effect the creation of the chroot, not the spawning of the tty from inittab |
| 19:02.43 | dvs | spectie: Choose? I'd select the version for the version of Debian you're running. |
| 19:02.51 | fasta | somiaj: ok, I think it is something else. I checked that /sid-root/sbin/getty <etc> does _not_ work, but that the same command without sid-root does work. |
| 19:02.54 | spectie | there are different version numbers |
| 19:03.25 | spectie | e.g. you said '10' |
| 19:03.28 | spectie | but 10 is not an option |
| 19:03.28 | somiaj | fasta: of course, you want to run the getty on your running system (you arne't creating a new tty inside the chroot, you care creating one in squeeze, that by default runs chroot |
| 19:03.37 | somiaj | oh wait, nevermind that fasta |
| 19:03.44 | spectie | it has: 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, release, beta, aurora |
| 19:03.54 | dvs | spectie: If you add the deb sources that are on that page, you can get a later version. |
| 19:03.57 | somiaj | fasta: either way the instructions did not say to run getty inside the chroot. |
| 19:04.12 | somiaj | spectie: release is version 10 I belive |
| 19:04.17 | spectie | aha ok! |
| 19:04.26 | spectie | the firefox/iceweasel versioning got really weird |
| 19:04.36 | somiaj | though I was disapointed with that repo, it's pinned strange so it may ask you to upgrade packages that don't need upgraded. |
| 19:05.05 | somiaj | spectie: yea they started throwing out releases, I think they wanted to be more like chromium as afraid that people though since version 17 so much greater than version 5, that chromium might be better |
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| 19:05.18 | spectie | ah |
| 19:05.23 | dvs | somiaj: which is so silly |
| 19:05.26 | spectie | it makes life more confusing for the rest of us ! |
| 19:05.35 | spectie | that don't really care about version numbers |
| 19:05.37 | fasta | somiaj: the instructions do say to run via chroot. |
| 19:05.51 | fasta | somiaj: but anyway, we can both read, no need to argue about that. |
| 19:05.52 | spectie | in fact, i'd be inclined to think that 17 for a 4 year old program is version bloat |
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| 19:06.02 | spectie | one major version/year seems reasonable |
| 19:06.12 | dvs | yup |
| 19:06.20 | fasta | I don't think anyone cares one bit about version numbers. |
| 19:06.37 | fasta | I think most people don't even know that Chrome has version numbers. |
| 19:06.56 | spectie | i really just want html5 stuff to work |
| 19:06.59 | spectie | as i don't have flash |
| 19:07.06 | spectie | well, only gnash |
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| 19:07.35 | somiaj | fasta: 8:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/chroot $MY_CHROOT /sbin/getty 38400 tty8" -- there is no $MY_CHROOT/sbin/getty there. |
| 19:07.53 | izepstan | how can i create a device under /dev ? |
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| 19:08.05 | somiaj | spectie: trying to watch youtube videos? |
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| 19:08.14 | spectie | well, trying to upload photos to VK |
| 19:08.16 | somiaj | izepstan: are you runnging squeeze? |
| 19:08.20 | spectie | youtube videos work with gnash ok |
| 19:08.21 | izepstan | yep |
| 19:08.36 | dvs | !tell izepstan about udev rules |
| 19:08.45 | fasta | somiaj: I know that. |
| 19:08.47 | somiaj | spectie: don't now about VK, but have you checked out youtube.com/html5 -- that should tell you if your browser supports html5 |
| 19:08.51 | izepstan | ok i go google |
| 19:08.54 | fasta | somiaj: I also don't have that in my inittab. |
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| 19:09.16 | somiaj | izepstan: you shouldn't need to manually make device files in /dev -- what are you trying to do? |
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| 19:09.32 | spectie | let me see |
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| 19:10.33 | spectie | hmm |
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| 19:10.52 | izepstan | start a virtual xen machine, but no matter what i put under root system throw an error like: ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! |
| 19:11.36 | izepstan | even if i use root=/dev/md1 which is my software raid and exists |
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| 19:12.27 | somiaj | izepstan: what does the fstab inside the image say the root fs is? |
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| 19:12.59 | izepstan | to check that i have to mount it right? |
| 19:13.30 | elise-- | \mount ./chair |
| 19:13.51 | somiaj | izepstan: I belive so. Just a random guess, I dn't mess with xen that much, but if your fstab is telling you the wrong root device it might not get mounted correctly |
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| 19:14.27 | izepstan | ah ok, thanks for that i'll go check, but has it to point on a existing device or will the device be created on start? |
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| 19:17.32 | izepstan | somiaj, there i have: /dev/hda1 none swap sw 0 0 and /dev/hda2 / ext3 noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
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| 19:29.32 | izepstan | if someone would take the pleasure to help me: http://pastebin.com/HaNuMf44 |
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| 19:31.00 | Connor_ | Anyone here use Debian on a Macbook? |
| 19:31.59 | somiaj | of course, is this a ppc or intel macbook? |
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| 19:32.22 | Connor_ | somiaj, Intel |
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| 19:32.50 | somiaj | Connor_: I still think you need to worry about booting the installer |
| 19:33.09 | somiaj | Connor_: http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook |
| 19:33.21 | Connor_ | somiaj, I'm already reading there, I was just wondering if anyone here already has it on their Macbook |
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| 19:33.44 | somiaj | Connor_: that is a silly quesiton, of course someone has installed it and written that documentation. I'm sure more than one have |
| 19:33.59 | somiaj | Connor_: if you have a more specific question ask that as opposed to finding someone to ask the question to |
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| 19:34.08 | mintsnow | I'm convinced that I will never get my campus wireless working with Debian. My head hurts from troubleshooting for the last several hours. |
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| 19:34.21 | izepstan | somiaj, http://pastebin.com/HaNuMf44 |
| 19:34.29 | somiaj | mintsnow: what is the issue? |
| 19:34.30 | Connor_ | somiaj, I"m talking about someone in this channel... |
| 19:35.16 | somiaj | izepstan: not that familar with xen, so wont' be of much help. |
| 19:35.25 | izepstan | ok np |
| 19:35.35 | somiaj | Connor_: still the answer to your question is 'yes', if you have an actual support question just ask it. |
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| 19:35.51 | mintsnow | somiaj, running Squeeze. wicd doesn't recognize wireless, installed the firmware but it was no help. cnetworkmanager recognizes there are networks at least. |
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| 19:36.10 | somiaj | mintsnow: are you running debian or mint? |
| 19:36.19 | mintsnow | debian. |
| 19:36.31 | somiaj | mintsnow: do you see the device in 'ifconfig -a' |
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| 19:37.20 | mintsnow | somiaj: yes, eth0, lo, and wlan0. |
| 19:37.34 | mintsnow | running off of ethernet rightnow. |
| 19:37.44 | in2tactics | mintsnow: does your school use special authentication with "peap" or something similiar? |
| 19:37.48 | somiaj | mintsnow: grep wlan0 /etc/network/interfaces (do you have any mention of wlan0 there?) |
| 19:38.00 | somiaj | in2tactics: I think it is more wicd doens't see the card. |
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| 19:40.25 | in2tactics | mintsnow: there is a #wicd channel on freenode have you checked there? |
| 19:40.59 | dvs | wicd will no longer be maintained after squeeze |
| 19:41.25 | mintsnow | there is no mention of wlan0. |
| 19:41.44 | somiaj | mintsnow: did you reboot the system after installing the firmware? |
| 19:41.47 | mintsnow | in2tactics, yes my campus has peap related authentication. |
| 19:41.51 | mintsnow | Yes, I rebooted my system. |
| 19:42.25 | somiaj | mintsnow: I don't see why wicd is not seeing the device then, though as dvs mentioned its a dead project and you might want to ust use network-manager instead |
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| 19:43.15 | HSorgYves | i am rebuilding a new server and wondering if i should pick libapache2-mod-fastcgi or libapache2-mod-fcgid |
| 19:43.30 | mintsnow | somiaj, thanks for your help. |
| 19:43.43 | mintsnow | I'll look into the documentation for network-manager. |
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| 19:45.03 | mintsnow | I think I'll just carry my ethernet cord around. |
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| 19:45.39 | Connor_ | For a Macbook model 4,1, would I need an i386 or amd64 install iso? I'm not sure if the Macbook supports 64 bit stuff or not lol |
| 19:45.45 | dvs | ??? the network interfaces file isnt that hard |
| 19:46.01 | Connor_ | mintsnow, have you tried wicd |
| 19:46.10 | dvs | ... |
| 19:46.20 | in2tactics | lmao |
| 19:46.26 | izepstan | if someone could take a short look, i think its very easy to solve: /dev/md3 1808084492 2872636 1714089716 1% /home |
| 19:46.31 | izepstan | sorry http://pastebin.com/HaNuMf44 |
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| 19:48.23 | etene | Connor_: amd64 will do |
| 19:48.25 | zykotick9 | dvs: somiaj i'm upset wicd won't be supported anymore. network-manager has a big issue, it requires GDM/KDM to connect to wireless. |
| 19:48.52 | dvs | just uses the network/interfaces file |
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| 19:48.58 | regaman | what are some good ways to hack routers |
| 19:49.43 | Vasistha | I usually use /sbin/ifconfig to find out my current ip address. Is there a simple way to get it in machine-readable form, rather than writing some weird sed script or some such? |
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| 19:49.51 | in2tactics | regaman: define "hack routers" |
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| 19:51.13 | zzing | Is there anything that would prevent a debian kernel/initrd from being booted off of a loopback device sitting on an ntfs drive? I have attempted this with the kernel starting up but it failing to find the init, ultimately with me down at a busybox. |
| 19:51.21 | acuozzo | I have SSHD configured to use PasswordAuthentication _only_. PAM's not involved in anyway then -- is that correct? |
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| 19:52.06 | etene | zykotick9: I used network-manager with fluxbox/xdm and it didn't need GDM/KDM. But it depends on dbus, if that's the drawback you meant. |
| 19:52.47 | zykotick9 | etene: yup, on a system without a DM this is a pain. |
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| 19:53.15 | mintsnow | I'm using awm right now and I'm still getting used to not having gnome, pardon my ignorance. |
| 19:53.26 | joltcan | Vasistha: Since I use DHCP I have a script in exit-hooks that does that for me |
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| 19:53.35 | joltcan | Vasistha: I use that to update my dyndns |
| 19:53.38 | etene | zykotick9: agreed |
| 19:53.45 | Vasistha | joltcan: care to share? |
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| 19:53.48 | acuozzo | I don't think I use PAM at all. Can I uninstall the related packages or are there too many dependencies? |
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| 19:54.27 | syntaxx | are there any conditioning partition during preseeding? like if the /home is exists do not create otherwise it create the /home if it not? |
| 19:54.35 | dvs | Setting up a wireless network without a DM is a pain? |
| 19:54.42 | fasta | somiaj: do you have device nodes tty8 for example in your chroot /dev? |
| 19:54.57 | zykotick9 | dvs: well not currently using wicd-curses ;) |
| 19:55.16 | dvs | heh |
| 19:55.39 | etene | dvs: network-manager without a DM would be a pain (if possible, i haven't tried) :D |
| 19:55.45 | joltcan | Vasistha: http://13b5abffbb661b63.paste.se/ |
| 19:55.52 | joltcan | Vasistha: that or ip a show xenbr0 |grep "inet "|awk '{print $2}' | sed "s/\/.*//" |
| 19:56.09 | joltcan | Vasistha: where xenbr0 is you nic |
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| 19:57.17 | Fakhouri | hello |
| 19:57.21 | Fakhouri | anybody there? |
| 19:57.59 | Vasistha | joltcan: yeah... laptop here has both wired and wireless, and it would be nice to be able to just detect what's active |
| 19:58.16 | joltcan | Fakhouri: Nope. We have all left |
| 19:58.28 | Fakhouri | joltcan: nice one :D |
| 19:59.21 | izepstan | http://pastebin.com/HaNuMf44 |
| 19:59.22 | joltcan | Vasistha: can't they both be active at the same time? |
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| 19:59.40 | Vasistha | joltcan: theoretically, butI almost never have both of them connected |
| 20:00.15 | joltcan | Vasistha: ok |
| 20:00.16 | Fakhouri | joltcan: I'm just trying to get a little bit "debianized" :P |
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| 20:00.51 | Fakhouri | btw, there is a project related to the treatment of the Arabic language called Mishkal |
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| 20:01.05 | fasta | somiaj: there I go. I fixed it :) |
| 20:01.13 | Fakhouri | It would be good to have it in the repos :) |
| 20:01.14 | fasta | somiaj: so, the instructions are wrong. |
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| 20:01.33 | joltcan | Fakhouri: on line 47 it cannot find /dev/sda1, and in your config you have hda1 |
| 20:02.15 | fasta | It is really AWESOME when people that don't know what they are talking about create a website with even more people copying the information everywhere in the same wrong way. |
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| 20:02.51 | fasta | The economics of the Internet have nothing to do with the creation of quality content, unfortunately. |
| 20:02.53 | Fakhouri | joltcan: I didn't mention HDDs :P |
| 20:02.57 | CruX| | hello, how can I install vlc 2.0 into debian stable ? without upgrading to unstable/testing ? |
| 20:03.11 | fasta | The less inefficient the process is, the more eyeballs on the ads. |
| 20:03.21 | Fakhouri | joltcan: I guess you wanted to tag someone else :D |
| 20:03.24 | joltcan | Fakhouri: oh, sorry! Haha, to tired for this |
| 20:03.41 | joltcan | izepstan: on line 47 it cannot find /dev/sda1, and in your config you have hda1 |
| 20:03.45 | joltcan | Fakhouri: sorry :) |
| 20:04.21 | Fakhouri | joltcan: don't warry |
| 20:04.33 | Fakhouri | I like you anyway :D |
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| 20:05.50 | izepstan | joltcan, yeah i tried all possible things... |
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| 20:06.35 | joltcan | izepstan: did you change hda to sda in the xen config? |
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| 20:07.06 | Vasistha | joltcan: btw, your `grep | sed | awk' can be replaced by just one awk: ip addr show wlan0 | awk '/inet /{gsub(/\/.*/,"",$2); print $2}' |
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| 20:07.18 | izepstan | joltcan, i changed all to sda1 and sda2 in config and also in etc/fstab on the disk.img |
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| 20:07.32 | n0yd | id like to do a netinstall, im curious, reading the wiki on wifi firmware. will it pickup the need for my b43 broadcom firmware like it will for the ipw? |
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| 20:08.00 | n0yd | so i can do the setup using my wifi |
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| 20:11.36 | joltcan | Vasistha: I guess. I hate awk, so I didn't bother |
| 20:12.19 | swerve | cups is failing to print anything on debian unstable |
| 20:12.20 | n0yd | hmmm, i found the unoffical images hosted on debians servers with the nonfree firmware built in |
| 20:12.33 | n0yd | my worry is what abut wpa suppplicant |
| 20:12.38 | n0yd | does the iso have it? |
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| 20:12.41 | swerve | even a test page hangs on 'processing', and then it starts to error |
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| 20:12.58 | qubodup | hi |
| 20:12.59 | mintsnow | you can just aptitude install wpa_supplicant. |
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| 20:13.05 | qubodup | I have scrot-0.8/ and scrot_0.8-7.diff in a directory. Both were downloaded from debian's package repo. I want to apply the patch. What do I do? |
| 20:13.08 | swerve | cups is 1.4.6. I'v restarted cups, restarted the printer, and even rebooted the server |
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| 20:13.15 | qubodup | I am trying to achieve this without understanding what patch actually does |
| 20:13.53 | swerve | error log is here: http://pastebin.com/yZG4dec0 |
| 20:14.15 | jelly-home | qubodup: a) how did you download and extract the directory b) what's your actual goal |
| 20:14.58 | swerve | this seems to be the problem: Unable to encrypt connection from 192.168.0.102 - A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. but not sure, since it won't print a test page, either |
| 20:15.02 | n0yd | mintsnow: on the cd? |
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| 20:15.17 | n0yd | and can i download something like wicd-ncurses? |
| 20:15.22 | qubodup | jelly-home: I downloaded them manually from http://packages.debian.org/lenny/scrot and extracted using atools' aunpack |
| 20:15.31 | n0yd | though i noticed debian doesnt have the ncurses version of wicd |
| 20:15.33 | qubodup | n0yd: there's wicd-curses |
| 20:15.39 | n0yd | there is? |
| 20:15.44 | swerve | apt-get wicd-curses |
| 20:16.03 | swerve | or aptitude |
| 20:16.05 | n0yd | oh ya |
| 20:16.07 | n0yd | ok |
| 20:16.08 | n0yd | thanks |
| 20:16.16 | jelly-home | qubodup: and the second question? Which Debian release are you using? |
| 20:16.20 | n0yd | so i can install that stuff on the net install cd? |
| 20:16.31 | n0yd | before i actually start installing the system |
| 20:16.41 | n0yd | ive done debian installs in the past, just not wifi |
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| 20:17.09 | joltcan | Vasistha: almost nicer to do python -c "import socket; print socket.gethostbyname(socket.gethostname())" for clarity :) |
| 20:17.20 | fasta | jelly-home: I have a debootstrap'ed system running on tty8. When I do xinit, I get that virtual console 9 cannot be opened. It says file does not exist or cannot be opened, but /dev/tty9 exists in the FS in the chroot. |
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| 20:17.45 | Vasistha | joltcan: that gives me 127.0.1.1 ;) |
| 20:18.03 | joltcan | Vasistha: yeah, thats a common problem with linux, but you could tweak it |
| 20:18.14 | jelly-home | fasta: mistab? |
| 20:18.41 | joltcan | Vasistha: actually, it seems like some people do a outbound connction first to get the interface with the default route |
| 20:19.01 | joltcan | Vasistha: I like the DHCP-stuff though, because then you get it in realtime |
| 20:19.08 | fasta | jelly-home: no, it wasn't. I did manage this issue. |
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| 20:20.24 | fasta | What is "unable to map FB aperture"? |
| 20:20.28 | fasta | I am trying to run two X servers at the same time in two completely different systems via debootstrap. |
| 20:20.44 | jelly-home | fasta: I mean, ask the whole channel, not just me. |
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| 20:39.57 | m8 | Conoscete una scheda ibrida dvbt dvbs compatibile con linux? |
| 20:40.00 | m8 | :( |
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| 20:40.08 | m8 | paste error |
| 20:40.24 | m8 | Do you know a dvb-t dvb-s(2) card compatible with debian? |
| 20:40.45 | Vasistha | !es |
| 20:40.45 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 20:41.41 | s7r | !de |
| 20:41.41 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 20:41.46 | s7r | !se |
| 20:41.46 | dpkg | Svensktalande debian-användare hittar du i #debian.se på FreeNode (irc.freenode.net), SE is also the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Sweden, it was included in the standard 1974. |
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| 20:42.00 | s7r | he knows] |
| 20:42.02 | m8 | s7r, paste error! |
| 20:42.02 | s7r | !kp |
| 20:42.02 | dpkg | [kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
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| 20:42.08 | engla | s7r: please stop |
| 20:42.12 | m8 | Vasistha, , paste error! |
| 20:42.18 | s7r | how many languages it knows? :)) |
| 20:42.23 | m8 | !it |
| 20:42.23 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:42.25 | m8 | :é |
| 20:42.33 | engla | s7r: use /query dpkg to talk in private |
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| 20:55.55 | okioman | hi |
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| 20:58.21 | burek | hi, I need a tool that can sniff incoming http requests and log them like apache web server does |
| 20:58.38 | burek | I'm using vlc as a http server (for streaming) but it doesnt support access logs |
| 20:58.56 | burek | is there any tool for debian that can sniff these incoming http requests and log them in CLF format |
| 20:59.01 | burek | (like apache) |
| 20:59.35 | dwfreed | burek: just reverse proxy the VLC? |
| 20:59.40 | burek | (i tried urlsnarf from dsniff, but it just doesn't capture anything?) |
| 20:59.41 | kevlarman | burek: just set up apache (or a lighter webserver) as a reverse proxy |
| 20:59.53 | burek | wait wait, i dont use apache |
| 20:59.58 | burek | i use vlc |
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| 21:00.27 | burek | oh i see.. to install a proxy before vlc.. |
| 21:00.40 | kevlarman | reverse proxy* |
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| 21:01.12 | burek | do you have any suggestions on which tool to use? |
| 21:01.15 | qubodup | jelly-home: I'm using arch linux :) |
| 21:01.26 | kevlarman | burek: apache... |
| 21:01.36 | dwfreed | burek: nginx is very lightweight |
| 21:01.39 | injureddeer | hi, do you know any nice mind map software for debian? |
| 21:01.48 | burek | injureddeer, Freemind |
| 21:01.53 | burek | Freetype |
| 21:02.04 | burek | Freeplane (I use that one) |
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| 21:06.22 | jelly-home | qubodup: and what are you attempting to do? |
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| 21:06.54 | injureddeer | burek: what is best? |
| 21:07.26 | jelly-home | qubodup: basically you just cd into the directory and zcat ../foo-1.2-1.diff.gz | patch -p1 --dry-run |
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| 21:08.07 | jelly-home | qubodup: if patch does not complain, remove "--dry-run" to actually apply the patch |
| 21:08.11 | burek | injureddeer, Google is D best :) |
| 21:08.39 | injureddeer | burek: http://www.insilmaril.de/vym/ do you know? |
| 21:08.54 | burek | not quite injureddeer .. |
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| 21:09.03 | burek | just try searching the google, it wasnt too hard for me |
| 21:09.08 | burek | thanks guys, i need to go now :beer: :) |
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| 21:10.54 | Synthead | I created a software RAID and want to have a few partitions on top of it. the debian installer seems to want to only partition out the raid with a single filesystem, though. what do I do? |
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| 21:15.24 | jelly-home | Synthead: a typical md raid setup uses identically partitioned disks, and separate md arrays on top of each matching partition set |
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| 21:17.44 | okioman | hi |
| 21:18.18 | thewanderer1 | why doesn't sudo use the PAM module (pam_krb5.so) I tell it to in /etc/pam.d/sudo? or at least it doesn't appear to, because my password fails. |
| 21:18.29 | okioman | can i ask a question about wheezy ? because on the dedicated channel, there is nobody avalaible |
| 21:19.07 | okioman | when i try to apt-get update, i get the following error: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.be.debian.org/dists/wheezy/main/binary-powerpc/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 77.243.184.65 80] |
| 21:19.17 | okioman | then i can't install any package from this repository |
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| 21:22.34 | Connor_ | Are there any performance loss/gains of using a swapfile over a swap partition? |
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| 21:23.59 | okioman | missing a debian/ problem solved =) |
| 21:24.11 | qubodup | jelly-home: thanks! will try that |
| 21:24.30 | qubodup | jelly-home: I'm trying to test the debian verion, as it appears to have more features than the one in arch linux |
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| 21:29.27 | d3eniz_ | im getting unable to locate package sudo from apt-get install sudo as root, what repository am i missing? |
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| 21:29.56 | Synthead | jelly: how do I use "Configure software RAID" in the debian installer then? |
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| 21:31.55 | jordanm | d3eniz_: the main one |
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| 21:43.53 | nameless` | hi |
| 21:44.07 | nameless` | indeed, i cannot see sda5 does not appear in /dev/ |
| 21:44.12 | nameless` | i've got a problem with mdadm on a fresh new installed debian 6.0 i just created two partition on my two hard drive type FD (linux raid auto). If i perform fdisk -l i can see /dev/sda5 and /dev/sdb5. However when running mdadm -Cv /dev/md2 -l1 -n2 /dev/sd{a,b}5 it tells me that "/dev/sda5 no such file or directory" |
| 21:44.28 | nameless` | indeed, i cannot see sda5 does not appear in /dev/ |
| 21:44.36 | ippx | hi, what is the difference between update and upgrade? |
| 21:44.36 | nameless` | any idea ? |
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| 21:45.05 | nameless` | ippx: update actually updates the list of paquet to see if there is any more up to date packet |
| 21:45.22 | nameless` | ippx: upgrade is an action to install new version of already installed packet |
| 21:45.59 | valdyn | nameless`: linux cannt update partition tables when filesystems on that same disk are mounted |
| 21:46.16 | jordanm | partprobe can |
| 21:46.29 | valdyn | nameless`: you can write and read the table with fdisk, but you cant use the partition via /dev |
| 21:46.45 | valdyn | nameless`: reboot once, try again |
| 21:47.07 | ippx | nameless so if i run upgrade it will run update first or do i have to run update first and then upgrade? |
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| 21:47.21 | nameless` | valdyn: alright thanks ! |
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| 21:50.35 | ippx | do i have to run update before upgrade? |
| 21:51.07 | valdyn | ippx: update updates the list of available packages, upgrade installs newer packages according to that list |
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| 21:52.02 | ippx | valdyn : so it a good practice to do so? :) |
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| 21:52.22 | nag | anyone else having issues with python after upgrading 6.0.3 -> 6.0.4? |
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| 21:52.55 | jordanm | nag: what issues? |
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| 21:53.21 | nag | jordanm: specifically, issues with the socket module. |
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| 21:54.18 | jordanm | nag: please explain your issue |
| 21:54.29 | nag | across 8 machines, all else being equal except 6.0.3/6.0.4, the 6.0.4 one exhibits timeouts anywhere from 1/2 to 9/10 of the time |
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| 21:56.13 | nag | python itself doesn't seem to be aware of any problems (no exceptions raised), so I'm guessing its something that's changed with the networking |
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| 22:01.08 | ikus060 | Hello, I'm using debian testing. When I use perl, it warning me about be local settings not being set. LANGUAGE = (unset) LC_ALL= (unset) LANG=en_GB.utf8 are not supported and installed on your system. |
| 22:01.20 | ikus060 | I do need some tips how to fix this |
| 22:01.47 | salamand1r | hola gente del universo debian, como andan? hay alguien por ahi?? |
| 22:02.02 | engla | !es salamand1r |
| 22:02.02 | dpkg | salamand1r: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat |
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| 22:02.53 | HSorgYves | ikus060: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 22:02.56 | engla | ikus060: run dpkg-reconfigure locales and make sure the box for en_GB UTF-8 is ticked |
| 22:03.36 | engla | ikus060: all supported locales are shown by locale -a |
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| 22:05.08 | ikus060 | engla, when configuring locales, en_CA.UTF-8 is selected. Which is Ok, since I'm in Canada ... |
| 22:05.55 | engla | ikus060: you can select as many you want to generate |
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| 22:06.18 | ikus060 | ok ok, I've select en_CA.UTF8 .. will see |
| 22:06.20 | engla | ikus060: but you'll have to use one of those you've generated later.. if en_GB.UTF_8 is not generated, perl will probably tell you the thing above |
| 22:06.44 | HSorgYves | ikus060: check your /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 22:06.46 | engla | ikus060: remember to reconfigure your own session the same way you set it to en_GB.. via a config file or whereever it came from |
| 22:07.14 | HSorgYves | ikus060: you may overwrite those values when connecting through ssh |
| 22:08.13 | HSorgYves | ikus060: then as engla says, check your /etc/bash.bashrc /etc/profile ~/.bashrc ... for LANG and LC* |
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| 22:13.26 | ikus060 | Thanks, I got it fixed. |
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| 22:14.44 | eniac | @big13 |
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| 22:15.01 | HSorgYves | ikus060: yw |
| 22:15.04 | engla | ikus060: great. It does matter, in your case not because of language but if you're configured to a nonexistent locale you'll fallback to a ASCII-only locale, with posix sort ordering etc.. |
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| 22:15.20 | eniac | Jesi li tu? Big13 |
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| 22:17.33 | sUperstar24 | 5 vs 5 ? steam on? |
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| 22:19.49 | Some_Person | How can I make znc automatically start on my Xen VPS running debian stable? |
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| 22:21.27 | eniac | Pa gde si? :) |
| 22:21.38 | eniac | Big13 |
| 22:21.52 | eniac | big13 |
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| 22:24.54 | eniac | Hej |
| 22:25.00 | eniac | Hallloooo |
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| 22:28.55 | jeward1 | Hello, I am having sound problems on a MacBook Pro 1,2. I can't get it to play JUST on the headphones. It either plays both internal speakers and headphones or neither. |
| 22:29.30 | jeward1 | Currently there is a red light emitting from the headphone jack which I have read means it is in optical audio mode? |
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| 22:33.17 | bs0d | Hello |
| 22:33.44 | bs0d | Where does Debian network manager store configuration files for openvpn connections? |
| 22:33.56 | JPT | probably in /etc/openvpn/*.conf |
| 22:34.18 | bs0d | JPT, no.. I've checked there .. no config files were created |
| 22:34.23 | JPT | mhh |
| 22:34.36 | JPT | maybe the process list reveals the config that's used |
| 22:34.53 | JPT | fire up the openvpn and do ps aux | grep openvpn |
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| 22:35.32 | engla | jeward1: just a guess, have you checked anything like this http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Sound |
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| 22:36.16 | jeward1 | engla: I'm googling all over. I've seen that page. Nothing seems to go back to my 2006 model. |
| 22:36.23 | bs0d | hmm it returns nothing ... no openvpn or just vpn entries in the ps output :( But openvpn I think was started as a daemon process |
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| 22:37.20 | bs0d | even after running command service openvpn restart ps shows no entries about openvpn |
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| 22:41.28 | bs0d | really strange affair |
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| 22:42.03 | bs0d | I have created a new vpn connection using network manager gui ( gnome ), but no vpn config files were created in /etc/openvpn |
| 22:42.19 | bs0d | and openvpn client is not started as well |
| 22:42.36 | beardy | bs0d: Don't use Network Manager. Configure OpenVPN in /etc/openvpn/ see /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/server.conf |
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| 22:44.13 | themill | bs0d: nm stores config files within the user's profile not system wide. |
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| 22:45.50 | abrotman | there's a checkbox to let other users use teh connection IIRC? |
| 22:45.55 | beardy | bs0d: Use /etc/init.d/openvpn to start and stop. Give the name of your conf, without the .conf, i.e '/etc/init.d/openvpn myserver start' to start. stop stops all running ones. If you don't give an argument, all .conf in /etc/openvpn are started. |
| 22:46.34 | beardy | bs0d: '/etc/init.d/openvpn status' and 'help' |
| 22:46.34 | bs0d | themill you mean somewhere in my home directory? But anyway .. it doesn't start openvpn client for some reason |
| 22:46.39 | abrotman | "available to all users" |
| 22:47.18 | themill | abrotman: yeah, sometimes that even works too. |
| 22:48.48 | bs0d | beardy .. openvpn service should be run only in case I run a vpn server, but I need client connection only .. or am I mistaken? |
| 22:48.48 | abrotman | themill: it's worked for me here |
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| 22:49.34 | themill | abrotman: yeah, it worked for me once, then created a connection that couldn't be used and also couldn't be deleted, etc etc... Not one of nm's finest moments. |
| 22:49.47 | beardy | bs0d: I don't know. :) Are you setting up a client to connect to a server that is already configured, and/or administered by someone eler? |
| 22:49.55 | beardy | else* |
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| 22:50.04 | Akedion | Or maybe have you checked the dependencies? |
| 22:51.03 | bs0d | beardy I need to set up a client vpn connection to 2 remote networks. I've been provided with 2 config files and signed certificates .. so I should edit /etc/default/openvpn in this case? |
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| 22:51.07 | beardy | bs0d: The configuration and management of openvpn is the same. Configure a client-config and start openvpn with it. |
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| 22:52.26 | beardy | bs0d: No, you should put the config files and certs in /etc/openvpn/ then '/etc/init.d/openvpn start nameofyourconf' |
| 22:52.26 | bs0d | is there any gui tool to manage vpn connections? Like start / stop / autostart them? I really feel a bit confused every time open a terminal and type in command like openvpn --config ... |
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| 22:52.55 | jeward1 | I do vpn from the network manager widget. |
| 22:53.06 | beardy | bs0d: Read above. Use the start|stopscript in /etc/init.d, that is: /etc/init.d/openvpn |
| 22:53.19 | jeward1 | But we switched to Cisco from openvpn, so that may not help. |
| 22:53.27 | Akedion | kde or gnome? |
| 22:53.30 | bs0d | beardy I mean gui tool ... not to type commands on the console |
| 22:53.42 | beardy | bs0d: I mean learna nd do as I say and life will be better. |
| 22:53.45 | HSorgYves | which php cache package do you suggest on debian? |
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| 22:54.23 | Akedion | lol |
| 22:54.25 | themill | HSorgYves: you've only got the choice of 2, don't you? try it and see |
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| 22:54.41 | bs0d | jeward1 how did you get network manager working? I tried to create a new connection in there, but 1) I cannot find where it places vpn config files for connections 2) Network Manager does not start openvpn client, at all |
| 22:54.52 | nkuttler | HSorgYves: xcache works for me |
| 22:55.05 | beardy | HSorgYves: Depends what you are going to do and in which way. Which webserver do you use? Will you use php to serve html, or use it as a CLI script interpreter? |
| 22:55.23 | nkuttler | HSorgYves: apc didn't but that was on woody or somewhen.. never touched it again since |
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| 22:55.42 | beardy | Oh, I missed the "cache". |
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| 22:55.59 | nkuttler | assuming he wants an opcode cache to begin with.. |
| 22:56.05 | HSorgYves | themill: php-apc, php-cache, php5-memcache, php5-memcached, php5-xcache; makes it 5 if I didn't miss anything |
| 22:56.10 | Akedion | bs0d: gadmin-openvpn-client may help you, but i think it's better learn how to configure without a gui |
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| 22:56.17 | nkuttler | HSorgYves: they cache different things |
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| 22:57.33 | HSorgYves | nkuttler: ok, so xcache is like eaccelerator or zend optimizer? |
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| 22:57.44 | abrotman | or both?! |
| 22:57.51 | themill | HSorgYves: the memcache* is not what you think it is |
| 22:57.52 | esaym153 | I can boot from a regular netinstall cd and install the debian OS to an inserted usb thumb drive right? |
| 22:58.11 | beardy | esaym153: Yes. |
| 22:58.12 | themill | HSorgYves: (the package descriptions may be enlightening) |
| 22:58.19 | HSorgYves | themill: ok, i should then read the documentation before asking ;-) |
| 22:58.34 | beardy | esaym153: Use 'dmesg' after inserting it, and make sure you select the right device. |
| 22:58.59 | HSorgYves | themill: any suggestion between apc and xcache? |
| 22:59.14 | bs0d | Akedion this gadmin-openvpn client is better to use, than debian network manager? |
| 22:59.15 | HSorgYves | nkuttler: yes; looking for opcode cache |
| 22:59.19 | beardy | esaym153: (Though the brand/model and size will help you too, when selecting device to partition and install on.) |
| 22:59.43 | themill | HSorgYves: I've never used either enough to really say anything intelligent about them. I think I've got xcache installed on a couple of machines but that was more of a "see if this helps; oh it seems to" basis |
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| 23:00.03 | beardy | esaym153: (Alt-F2 for a shell to run dmesg in, in the installer, Alt-F1 to get back to the installer.) |
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| 23:00.14 | HSorgYves | themill: ok, many thx |
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| 23:00.19 | manhunter | hi, how can i check if the fan above processor is running or not? any command? |
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| 23:00.42 | streuner | manhunter: lm-sensors? |
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| 23:01.06 | beardy | !be cli barbie |
| 23:01.06 | dpkg | But cli is soooooo hard! :`( Ken, call me a waaaaahbulance *cry* |
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| 23:01.13 | nkuttler | manhunter: or fancontrol |
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| 23:01.50 | manhunter | i have installed both lm-sensors and fancontrol, now how would run those commands to check? |
| 23:02.04 | abrotman | manhunter: they have documentation .. read it |
| 23:02.19 | streuner | manhunter: sensors |
| 23:02.32 | nkuttler | manhunter: /usr/share/doc/package, dpkg -L package | grep bin, man whatever, etc |
| 23:02.40 | esaym153 | sweet |
| 23:03.09 | streuner | manhunter: hm, sensors doesnt say something about the fan |
| 23:03.23 | beardy | esaym153: (If you want a USB-stick to have with you, have a look at the Debian Live images btw.) |
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| 23:05.29 | streuner | manhunter: well, the fan isnt supported by the lm-sensor packages (chipset), maybe you have more luck |
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| 23:09.59 | bs0d | themill you told me that Network Manager stores config files for vpn in user profile, could you please tell me where exactlty to look for them? Which directory? |
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| 23:11.24 | abrotman | bs0d: i'd thikn you'd be able to use the find command to find them |
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| 23:11.44 | abrotman | or grep |
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| 23:11.56 | themill | bs0d: that depends on the nm client you're using |
| 23:12.13 | bs0d | abortman unfortunately I have no idea how network manager could name the config file |
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| 23:12.35 | bs0d | themill I have Network Manager Applet 0.8.4 |
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| 23:13.36 | abrotman | bs0d: you don't know the name of your VPN connection groupname or anything ? |
| 23:13.37 | nameless` | is it possible to add a IPv4 address to my eth0 interface in order to be able to communicate with my vserver guest ? |
| 23:13.59 | nameless` | i'm afraid of trying in case i loose my ssh connection :) |
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| 23:14.29 | bs0d | abortman I named my VPN connection "UT", currently performing a system-wide search on this keyword, but networkmanager can name config file with some other name as well |
| 23:14.59 | psf | hello, i'm having trouble resizing mdadm partition. it says: "The filesystem is already 976757239 blocks long. Nothing to do!". Ideas? |
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| 23:15.49 | bs0d | network manager is not starting openvpn connection for some reason. ... |
| 23:16.18 | bs0d | I have added a new connection to the vpn tab ... but Last used: never I have placed autostart, but it is not started at all for some reason |
| 23:16.39 | manhunter | i have installed both lm-sensors and fancontrol, now how would run those commands to check? |
| 23:16.41 | manhunter | hi, how can i check if the fan above processor is running or not? any command? |
| 23:17.11 | streuner | manhunter: we told you, sensors, if the chipset is supported |
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| 23:17.59 | manhunter | how would i know if it's supported or not? |
| 23:18.18 | streuner | well, if you get an result, its supported :-P |
| 23:18.25 | bs0d | seems, that this network manager is not working at all .... |
| 23:18.31 | bs0d | is gonna try gadmin |
| 23:18.47 | kevlarman | sensors doesn't actually do much until you've run sensors-detect |
| 23:18.54 | manhunter | streuner: i typed sensors and got, acpitz-virtual-0 |
| 23:18.57 | manhunter | Adapter: Virtual device |
| 23:18.59 | manhunter | temp1: +51.0°C (crit = +90.0°C) |
| 23:19.02 | kevlarman | (defaults are usually ok, but use common sense) |
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| 23:19.12 | streuner | manhunter: sure, mobo and CPU temp. |
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| 23:19.22 | denom | can someone point me to an explnation of debian's stance on software patents? I read the announcement but do not fully understand |
| 23:19.27 | manhunter | streuner: so is it supported? |
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| 23:20.08 | streuner | manhunter: follow the advice of kevlarman, and run sensors-detect first |
| 23:20.53 | jelly-home | denom: something like "play dumb, plausible deniability, act only if the actual patent owner complains" |
| 23:21.00 | streuner | manhunter: well, usually most of BIOS has an entry about FAN's |
| 23:21.07 | manhunter | streuner: bash: sensors-detect: command not found |
| 23:21.54 | bs0d | Can anybody help me with this network-manager vpn setup? |
| 23:22.09 | streuner | manhunter: as root, well, you dont have lm-sensors installed then |
| 23:22.10 | manhunter | typing , sensors-detect, bash: sensors-detect: command not found |
| 23:23.14 | manhunter | streuner: as root it's running |
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| 23:27.09 | themill | bs0d: is /usr/share/doc/network-manager-openvpn-gnome/README enlightening at all? /usr/share/doc/network-manager-openvpn/README seems to imply that you need to have manually configured openvpn first. |
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| 23:30.38 | bs0d | Still no vpn connection ... network manager does not start it at all .. |
| 23:30.49 | bs0d | can anybody help me set it up so that it works? |
| 23:31.42 | beardy | Sure. $100/h, /msg me. |
| 23:31.53 | streuner | hehe |
| 23:32.04 | disposable2 | What option do i need to pass to kernel in grub so that it boots into runlevel 3? I've just installed testing. |
| 23:32.19 | bs0d | you are very helpful beardy |
| 23:32.20 | beardy | disposable2: Why do you need to use runlevel 3? |
| 23:32.20 | kevlarman | disposable2: 3 |
| 23:32.44 | streuner | disposable2: Debian uses 2, only in hard cases 1 |
| 23:33.25 | in2tactics | run level 3 is simply multi-user mode with network |
| 23:33.28 | streuner | disposable2: so its a very good question of beardy why you need 3 |
| 23:33.33 | bs0d | ok, I got it .. no help from this channel |
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| 23:33.44 | beardy | bs0d: You got help. |
| 23:33.57 | streuner | in2tactics: that wouldnt work in 2 too? |
| 23:34.07 | beardy | !runlevel |
| 23:34.07 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot. By default 2, 3, 4 and 5 are identical (no graphic/non-graphic runlevels), but you can configure this if you wish. Read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d; if that doesn't make sense, consider installing <rcconf> instead. See also http://debian-administration.org/articles/212, <startup>, <file-rc>, <single-user mode>. |
| 23:34.09 | in2tactics | well actually run level 3 is probably different than debian run levels... |
| 23:34.15 | disposable2 | Beardy that was a typo. I meant 2. Passing just '2' doesnt help |
| 23:34.15 | themill | bs0d: people make suggestions, you come back and just ask the same question again. It's a bit hard to say you're not getting help. |
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| 23:34.37 | streuner | hm, that makes sense then |
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| 23:34.58 | beardy | Ok, someone fscked up that factoid. |
| 23:35.20 | beardy | Debian doesn't care about runlevels, you most likely do not to care about runlevels, and use the default, which is 2. |
| 23:35.25 | bs0d | Im already in dispair setting up vpn ... I have added a new vpn connection in Network Manager, and ifconfig shows pan0 interface, but no address assigned to it, and this vpn connection seems not to be started at all for some reason |
| 23:35.42 | manhunter | streuner: hi |
| 23:35.51 | beardy | *have to care |
| 23:35.57 | streuner | manhunter: no result for your fan? |
| 23:36.17 | manhunter | streuner: i have pmed you the result |
| 23:36.19 | streuner | manhunter: in that case, you are using your BIOS |
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| 23:36.38 | manhunter | streuner: did you get the pm? |
| 23:36.39 | disposable2 | Beardy i dont want X to start. It messes up my screen and switching to tty<5 doesnt help |
| 23:36.41 | themill | bs0d: pan0 isn't going to be for your vpn. Did you read the two documentation files I pointed you to? Did you configure the vpn in /etc/openvpn? |
| 23:36.53 | manhunter | streuner: can't understand what you said |
| 23:37.04 | streuner | manhunter: sure, but i have no idea which chipset supports your fan... |
| 23:37.18 | beardy | disposable2: So disable your display manager or purge X. |
| 23:37.22 | beardy | !nodm |
| 23:37.22 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 23:37.24 | boudiccas | i have installed libreoffice 3.5.0 with dpkg over libreoffice 3.4.5. How can I revert it please as 3.5. isn't up to scratch please? |
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| 23:37.39 | manhunter | streuner: what do you mean by chipset? |
| 23:37.41 | beardy | Ah, there it was. |
| 23:37.41 | streuner | manhunter: just run "sensors", if you get an result about your fan, its supported, if not, you are out of luck |
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| 23:38.11 | manhunter | streuner: sensors, acpitz-virtual-0 |
| 23:38.13 | manhunter | Adapter: Virtual device |
| 23:38.15 | manhunter | temp1: +46.0°C (crit = +90.0°C) |
| 23:38.32 | disposable2 | Beardy for that i need to boot into runlevel 2. Otherwise my screen looks like thousands of glowing ants. |
| 23:38.33 | manhunter | streuner: what is the relation with this temparature with fan above processor |
| 23:38.38 | nkuttler | !tell boudiccas about downgrade |
| 23:38.39 | themill | boudiccas: (a) /msg dpkg pal me (b) /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 23:38.48 | streuner | manhunter: thats most likely a mobo or CPU temp. |
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| 23:39.17 | manhunter | streuner: what is the relation with this temparature with fan? |
| 23:39.33 | streuner | manhunter: its supported here too, but the fan chipset isnt supported here... |
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| 23:40.07 | streuner | manhunter: you are only able to know via BIOS then |
| 23:40.55 | boudiccas | okay, if i cant revery it, how do i uninstall it please so that i can then reinstall 3.4.5? |
| 23:40.59 | boudiccas | revert |
| 23:41.05 | streuner | manhunter: and, btw, lm-sensors is the only app. which supports these kind of things.... |
| 23:41.16 | streuner | in Linux |
| 23:41.23 | nkuttler | boudiccas: you just uninstall it |
| 23:41.39 | beardy | disposable2: No, you just need to boot at all, even into 'single", and disable your DM. |
| 23:42.38 | nkuttler | boudiccas: oh btw /msg dpkg snapshot if the package isn't in your testing/sid whatever mirror any more |
| 23:42.45 | boudiccas | nkuttler; it wasnt installed with apt-get so its not finding it in its cache |
| 23:42.57 | nkuttler | boudiccas: hm? how did you install it? |
| 23:42.59 | boudiccas | nkuttler; i'm using squeeze |
| 23:43.07 | manhunter | streuner: if the fan is not running, then can i run it from bios? |
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| 23:43.23 | boudiccas | nkuttler; sudo dpkg -i *.deb ........ in its relevant folder |
| 23:43.48 | streuner | manhunter: the fan should run in any case |
| 23:44.08 | nkuttler | boudiccas: sure apt-get can remove that.. and it doesn't matter in which directory you run that command either |
| 23:44.23 | themill | boudiccas: please tell me it wasn't the .debs from experimental that you installed in squeeze. |
| 23:44.35 | nkuttler | yeah.. wondering as well.. |
| 23:44.54 | boudiccas | themill; no, i gout ti from source |
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| 23:45.04 | boudiccas | nkuttler; Package libreoffice is not installed, so not removed |
| 23:45.13 | boudiccas | nkuttler; thats what apt-get says |
| 23:45.21 | nkuttler | boudiccas: dpkg -S `which libreoffice` |
| 23:45.50 | boudiccas | themill; no, i got it from souce, and installed it using dpkg |
| 23:45.57 | boudiccas | bollocks, source |
| 23:46.13 | nkuttler | whatever that means.. |
| 23:46.34 | themill | source != .debs. I assume you mean you downloaded them from documnentfoundation.org |
| 23:47.07 | disposable2 | Beardy ok it doesn't seem to be the X causing the screen corruption. I get it even in 'single' mode. System starts booting up with a big font and after a while i see the corrupted picture. |
| 23:47.45 | Maccer | 'scuse me, what does the --system param do in adduser/group? |
| 23:47.46 | beardy | disposable2: Then it is the frame buffer, the driver for your card, or your graphics card. |
| 23:47.54 | beardy | !nofb |
| 23:47.55 | dpkg | To disable framebuffer use at Debian installation time, supply the "fb=false" (d-i) or "video=vga16:off" (kernel) boot options. |
| 23:47.55 | boudiccas | themill; yes |
| 23:48.03 | disposable2 | Beardy that's on amd350 apu |
| 23:48.40 | beardy | and nowadays there is a new way to do it, which maybe someone else might remember. |
| 23:48.42 | boudiccas | nkuttler; using ........sudo dpkg -S `which libreoffice' ....... it just hangs and does nothing at a .....>> ......... cursor |
| 23:48.58 | themill | boudiccas: check the quotes more carefully |
| 23:49.10 | nkuttler | boudiccas: also don't use sudo on every line just because you can |
| 23:49.18 | boudiccas | themill; i cut and pasted it into my terminal |
| 23:49.23 | themill | boudiccas: you did not, it seems |
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| 23:50.56 | jelly-home | this is why $() is better! <g> |
| 23:51.03 | Iridos | or are there clients that "correct" quotes like that |
| 23:51.13 | HSorgYves | is there a way to prevent/remove the logging of postfix connection tests through localhost? if yes, how? |
| 23:51.27 | beardy | disposable2: http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting if you have to, boot with something else and fix it, if the nodm info doesn't work (by configuring the module, or blacklisting it), or boot the box and ssh into it and fix it. |
| 23:51.32 | abrotman | HSorgYves: there's a #postfix |
| 23:51.34 | themill | Maccer: a system user is one with a "low" UID to indicate that it is for a daemon not a normal user. |
| 23:51.47 | jelly-home | Iridos: boudiccas's xchat/Linux oughtn't |
| 23:52.05 | HSorgYves | abrotman: ok, thought it would be rsyslog specific |
| 23:52.16 | boudiccas | nkuttler; sorted out the quotes and i get this from it ........ dpkg -S `which libreoffice` dpkg-query: --search needs at least one file name pattern argument Use --help for help about querying packages. |
| 23:52.19 | Iridos | but I'm glad to see libre is now in backports |
| 23:52.23 | Iridos | judd, versions libreoffice |
| 23:52.24 | judd | Package: libreoffice on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.4.3-3~bpo60+1; sid: 1:3.4.5-2; wheezy: 1:3.4.5-2; experimental: 1:3.5.0-1 |
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| 23:52.47 | beardy | disposable2: Ah, here we go: "•Boot with the nomodeset kernel command line parameter. " |
| 23:52.58 | jelly-home | boudiccas: that implies you have no "libreoffice" binary in your PATH |
| 23:53.08 | lua | hi, do you know how to set a theme for the new (0.7.x) notification-daemon? |
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| 23:53.36 | boudiccas | jelly; i just use it as it sets it up, i dont set up any specific path for it |
| 23:53.39 | abrotman | boudiccas: if you type: which libreoffice .. at your prompt, does it return aynthing ? |
| 23:54.03 | boudiccas | abrotman; no |
| 23:54.22 | jelly-home | boudiccas: figure out the path to at least one of its binaries, then use dpkg -S on it |
| 23:54.34 | boudiccas | jelly; ok, thanks |
| 23:55.14 | nkuttler | boudiccas: or ls -d /usr/share/doc/libreoffice* and remove the correct packages |
| 23:55.31 | nkuttler | assuming your package even has a doc dir... |
| 23:55.50 | Iridos | well... all this is just to find the package name... dpkg -l \*libre\*office\* would probably find that as well.... or you still know from installing |
| 23:56.41 | Iridos | or package names |
| 23:56.57 | disposable2 | Beardy neither nomodeset nor video=vga16:off seem to have any effect. Unfortunately i only have a phone so it's a teal pain sshing into the machine and fixing it manually. |
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| 23:57.45 | beardy | disposable2: But with 'single' then? |
| 23:58.03 | beardy | disposable2: runlevel 1, that is |
| 23:58.40 | beardy | disposable2: Otherwise, read the nodm info carefully and do it blindly, log in, type carefully. :) |
| 23:59.06 | beardy | Or oh, yeah.. that wasn't it.. well. Hold on. |
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