| 00:00.54 | karlpinc | naiv: You can use "dig" to query the dns system and see for yourself. (It wouldn't hurt to have read the rfc to understand what dig tells you.) |
| 00:02.48 | nsadmin | , versions bpaste |
| 00:02.49 | judd | No package named 'bpaste' was found in i386. |
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| 00:07.27 | nsadmin | http://gist.github.com/1911766 |
| 00:07.37 | naiv | thank you karlpinc, I'm gathering some mana to read this. |
| 00:07.49 | nsadmin | oh oops, wrong paste |
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| 00:15.42 | rtmex | karlpinc: I run a program that must display the character 205 from the extended ASCII table, its a doble line, like an equal sign, the screen puts another charracter |
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| 00:18.45 | shawn186 | how do i make the resolution smaller in debian? |
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| 00:19.51 | robokop | shawn186: in X? |
| 00:20.55 | cthuluh | weird question |
| 00:21.48 | shawn186 | yes |
| 00:22.05 | robokop | shawn186: you can try with xrandr |
| 00:22.21 | shawn186 | i picked up debian 6 with vmware tools installed, but running it in vmware appears oversized |
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| 01:17.33 | Kobaz | is there a way to amplify the volume more than what the mixer device goes to |
| 01:17.49 | Kobaz | i have dual boot on this laptop, in windows my volume gets way louder than in linux |
| 01:17.59 | nsadmin | If I amplified my volume, I'd have 4 tb! |
| 01:18.14 | Kobaz | some sort of driver-level output gain |
| 01:18.51 | nsadmin | the mixer device connects to the card's hardware |
| 01:19.07 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 01:19.23 | nsadmin | one way to get more is get an external amp :) |
| 01:19.30 | Kobaz | but there was to be a software difference though |
| 01:19.41 | Kobaz | being in windows i can actually hear my built in speakers quite well |
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| 01:19.51 | nsadmin | but, those loudest settings on the mixer will probably distort |
| 01:19.59 | Kobaz | doesn't for me |
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| 01:20.37 | nsadmin | probably it would if you played something that was already loud enough to do so |
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| 01:21.34 | Kobaz | well yeah |
| 01:21.44 | Kobaz | i wonder if pulseaudio has preamp stuff |
| 01:23.36 | DanDare | Hello. I have Debian 6 in this laptop. Installed xfce4. Synaptics mouse pad doesnt accept tapping clicks, what should I look to fix this? Mybe installing stuff like "gsynaptics" ? |
| 01:25.38 | Kobaz | i loaded up qmmp and played some mp3s |
| 01:25.47 | Kobaz | enabling the preamp and bumping up the volume sounds fine |
| 01:26.03 | Kobaz | DanDare: what laptop? |
| 01:26.18 | Kobaz | and what kernel version? |
| 01:26.18 | DanDare | Kobaz, MSI CR420 |
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| 01:26.27 | Kobaz | you may need 3.3-rc |
| 01:26.34 | DanDare | Kobaz, kernel version ? Just standard Debian Squeeze |
| 01:26.39 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 01:26.39 | DanDare | Ah |
| 01:26.45 | DanDare | So i forgive it |
| 01:26.57 | Kobaz | you may need ot build a new kernel, there's been many patches to the mouse driver for new synaptics hardware |
| 01:27.05 | DanDare | I see |
| 01:27.06 | Kobaz | that's what i had to do for my new laptop |
| 01:27.20 | Kobaz | type uname -a |
| 01:27.30 | DanDare | Kobaz, I never did kernel upgrades. Bit worried about breaking various default system aspects |
| 01:27.38 | Kobaz | ah |
| 01:27.41 | DanDare | 2.6.32 |
| 01:27.44 | Kobaz | well then you'll be stuck |
| 01:27.53 | Kobaz | yeah that's too old for the new synaptics pads |
| 01:27.56 | DanDare | Yeah, it's ok so |
| 01:28.08 | DanDare | I think I can leave with it until next Debian release |
| 01:28.17 | Kobaz | next debian release won't have 3.3 either |
| 01:28.23 | DanDare | *can live |
| 01:28.27 | DanDare | Oh |
| 01:28.29 | DanDare | Well |
| 01:28.32 | Kobaz | you'll probably have to wait till next year for it to trickle down to a stable release |
| 01:28.45 | DanDare | Understand |
| 01:28.51 | Kobaz | unstable will get it sooner |
| 01:29.26 | Kobaz | but you shouldnt run unstable unless you're willing to put up with package breakage |
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| 01:32.13 | DanDare | Kobaz, yeah. Will just being patient and wait :) |
| 01:32.53 | Kobaz | scrolling didn't work for me |
| 01:33.05 | Kobaz | so that was a big deal so i played around and got it going pretty easily |
| 01:33.30 | Kobaz | upgraded to kernel 3.3-rc5 and upgraded the xorg synaptics driver, and good to go |
| 01:33.46 | Kobaz | but you need to know the kernel options for your machine, which will take some time to get right |
| 01:34.02 | Kobaz | anyway, dinner time |
| 01:35.09 | DanDare | I see. I may try it in some VM to see what it looks like |
| 01:35.17 | DanDare | thanks you. Have a good dinner |
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| 01:46.05 | kripz | can i image a live system using dd? |
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| 01:58.26 | apvp | Hi all! I installed Debian as a server, without X window system - is it ok to delete /usr/shareX11 and everything in it? |
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| 01:59.10 | apvp | * /usr/share/X11 * |
| 01:59.57 | streuner_ | sure, if you dont need X at all |
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| 02:00.59 | streuner_ | but why? /usr/share/X11: du -h 5,9M |
| 02:01.05 | apvp | Yup! I was just wondering if there was something there needed for the keyboard or something like that. |
| 02:01.30 | streuner_ | good question... |
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| 02:02.59 | Guest80348 | once i'm in /home# how do I get intothe next folder which would be sidney? |
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| 02:03.37 | lstarnes | Guest80348: cd FOLDERNAME |
| 02:03.56 | Guest80348 | think i tried that |
| 02:04.00 | lstarnes | what error? |
| 02:04.56 | Guest80348 | no such directory |
| 02:05.23 | lstarnes | what does pwd output? |
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| 02:07.02 | Guest80348 | lstarnes, /home |
| 02:07.27 | lstarnes | Guest80348: try ls. does it show a directory named sidney? |
| 02:08.17 | Guest80348 | lstarnes, lost+found sidney |
| 02:08.28 | lstarnes | uthen cd sidney |
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| 02:08.47 | Guest80348 | uthen? |
| 02:08.51 | lstarnes | *then |
| 02:08.56 | lstarnes | it was a typo. cd sidney |
| 02:09.33 | Guest80348 | got it |
| 02:09.59 | Guest80348 | hope this is the one with the drivers |
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| 02:10.19 | streuner_ | apvp, i wouldnt touch these kind of files at all... |
| 02:10.34 | apvp | Hmmm... maybe it's better to leave it there for now. Anyway, is there a way to make the text smaller in the command line (maybe change resolution)? I don't have X and the text appears too big. |
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| 02:14.11 | Guest80348 | unable to find the system utility 'id'; please make sure you have the package binutils |
| 02:14.19 | streuner_ | apvp: amset:/usr/share/X11/xkb# apt-cache show xkb-data |
| 02:14.27 | Woet | Guest80348: your question being? |
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| 02:15.11 | streuner_ | apvp: doesnt sound to me, its important in order to run cli keyboard at all |
| 02:15.41 | Guest80348 | where do i get this file what ever it is |
| 02:15.52 | streuner_ | apvp: do you have still a X package installed? |
| 02:16.06 | Woet | Guest80348: apt-get install binutils |
| 02:17.26 | apvp | streuner_: No, i have no X package. |
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| 02:18.20 | streuner_ | apvp: well, its easy to find out via "dpkg -S /foo-dir/whateverfile ... |
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| 02:19.32 | streuner_ | apvp: it must be package installed, even if you use --purge as option, it would purge the file(s) in /etc/* .... |
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| 02:22.31 | apvp | Yeah... i do have some: libx11-6 libx11-data libxau6 libxdmcp6 libxext6 libxmuu1 |
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| 02:24.00 | apvp | I was trying to remove everything not needed, but i can see it quicly becomes a pain. |
| 02:24.00 | streuner_ | judd, versions libx11-data |
| 02:24.01 | judd | Package: libx11-data on i386 -- lenny: 2:1.1.5-2; squeeze: 2:1.3.3-4; sid: 2:1.4.4-4; wheezy: 2:1.4.4-4; experimental: 2:1.4.99.1-1 |
| 02:24.52 | apvp | * quickly * |
| 02:24.55 | streuner_ | sure |
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| 02:27.08 | Guest80348 | is there a option to boot into a VGA console? |
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| 02:27.47 | somiaj | Guest80348: framebuffers are default in lots of cases, hit ctrl-alt-f1 and you should be at one |
| 02:27.59 | somiaj | Guest80348: if you want to disable the display manager /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 02:29.27 | Guest80348 | somiaj i did the ctrl+alt+f1 but now i get a new error too too much trouble to insrtall a driver |
| 02:29.40 | Guest80348 | http://paste.debian.net/157607/ |
| 02:30.13 | somiaj | Guest80348: it isn't supported to install the nvidia packages that way |
| 02:30.15 | Guest80348 | I though x server was the desktop |
| 02:30.24 | somiaj | !nvidia |
| 02:30.24 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 02:30.44 | somiaj | ,versions nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 02:30.45 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; squeeze-backports/non-free: 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 290.10-1; sid/non-free: 295.20-1; experimental/non-free: 295.20-1+exp1 |
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| 02:31.27 | somiaj | if version 195.36.31-6 isn't new enough for your card (or you really want a newer version) install the version from squeeze-backports (you'll probabaly have to backport your xserver too) |
| 02:32.11 | Guest80348 | oknow how do i get back to my desktop |
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| 02:32.29 | somiaj | ctrl-alt-f7 should get you there |
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| 02:33.35 | sanduz2 | im trying to find out the file system of my partition (ext3, ext4, etc.) but when i type mount or df it just shows rootfs as the filesystem for / |
| 02:33.59 | somiaj | sanduz2: type mount |
| 02:34.17 | streuner_ | sanduz2: and what does your fstab say about? ;-) |
| 02:35.37 | sanduz2 | streuner_, thanks it says ext3 |
| 02:35.44 | sanduz2 | streuner_, why does it only show on fstab? |
| 02:35.51 | sanduz2 | instead of the commands i mentioned |
| 02:36.18 | engla | sanduz2: df -T doesn't it show your root twice, once as rootfs and once as the real type? |
| 02:36.18 | streuner_ | sanduz2: thats for newbies, real hardcore *nix users look into /proc :-) |
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| 02:36.25 | somiaj | sanduz2: did you type mount and hit enter, that should list the actual file system mounted |
| 02:36.49 | sanduz2 | engla, nope. just the rootfs for / and some other unrelated ones |
| 02:37.01 | sanduz2 | streuner_, lol thanks |
| 02:37.13 | sanduz2 | somiaj, yes but it shows the same thing |
| 02:37.21 | sanduz2 | rootfs for / |
| 02:37.22 | somiaj | sanduz2: what does it show? paste the output? |
| 02:37.28 | streuner_ | sanduz2: well, all important infos from the kernel lives in /proc ... |
| 02:38.06 | engla | have a go at blkid |
| 02:38.36 | streuner_ | sanduz2: to tell you the truth, only to look into fstab, is in most cases maybe true, but not in all... |
| 02:39.31 | sanduz2 | somiaj, http://pastebin.com/S7W2wGLt |
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| 02:39.57 | sanduz2 | engla, ah nice command. thanks |
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| 02:40.25 | sanduz2 | engla, do you happen to know whats going on? why it would say rootfs nstead of the actual fs, on mount and df? |
| 02:40.27 | somiaj | sanduz2: hmm, well my mount tells me what the actual file system is, I have "/dev/disk/by-uuid/b3ee826f-2245-4123-aad0-276bb20221ed on / type ext4" |
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| 02:40.53 | sanduz2 | hmm |
| 02:42.03 | streuner_ | somiaj: i dont get the / FS here at all |
| 02:42.27 | streuner_ | somiaj: and this is sid here |
| 02:42.40 | somiaj | streuner_: yea I guess I am just use to it being there, not sure if it s because I use uuid's or not. Both my sid boxes see it and so does my squeeze chroot |
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| 02:43.41 | Strav | Hi! Anyone with some experience in maintaining a raid5 array? (I have some questions about the general good practices to avoid data corruption). |
| 02:44.43 | streuner_ | somiaj: sorry, iam blind today - /dev/disk/by-uuid/213b06e2-a72b-4557-8aad-f96207b882db on / type jfs (rw,noatime) |
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| 02:48.21 | spuxs_ | hi |
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| 02:48.57 | streuner_ | maybe sanduz2 is blind too? |
| 02:49.17 | sanduz2 | nope, i pastebin'd it |
| 02:49.30 | somiaj | yea it wasn't in his pastebin, it surprised me |
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| 02:50.16 | streuner_ | hm |
| 02:50.54 | streuner_ | true, i dont see the FS there too |
| 02:51.02 | somiaj | sanduz2: are you running in a live system or vm of some type? |
| 02:54.32 | sanduz2 | somiaj, nope |
| 02:55.02 | streuner_ | sanduz2: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 " say? |
| 02:55.41 | sanduz2 | ii libc6 2.11.2-10 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared Libraries |
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| 02:56.21 | somiaj | ,versions libc6 |
| 02:56.22 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze: 2.11.3-2; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.11.3-3; squeeze-updates: 2.11.3-3; sid: 2.13-26; wheezy: 2.13-26 |
| 02:56.39 | Xenguy | Folks, I'm finally getting around to upgrading from oldstable to stable, and I've hit a difficult situation |
| 02:56.51 | Xenguy | I'm getting a repeat error |
| 02:56.52 | somiaj | sanduz2: seems you have a strange version of that lib there, me guess you aren't running debian? |
| 02:57.00 | somethinginteres | tried to install Debian 6.0.4 stable. Grub wouldn't install on /dev/sda. Had to use LILO that booted me into an "(inframs)" prompt. I could get to any logs at the time. Ideas? |
| 02:57.10 | Xenguy | The error has to do with unmet dependencies |
| 02:57.11 | sanduz2 | somiaj, yes i am. debian 6 squeeze. maybe a package changed it? |
| 02:57.29 | sanduz2 | somiaj, what exactly are you learning from looking at that package? just wondering |
| 02:57.33 | Xenguy | I've tried 'apt-get -f install' and it errors out too |
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| 02:58.00 | streuner_ | Xenguy: you should know the procedure then... |
| 02:58.21 | Xenguy | streuner_: can you elaborate? |
| 02:58.30 | streuner_ | (give us the output of the whole error and pastbin it, with your sources.list) |
| 02:58.40 | streuner_ | pastebin* |
| 02:58.50 | Xenguy | streuner_: OK, let me work on that |
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| 02:59.06 | Xenguy | (I am at the console and c/p'ing with screen) |
| 02:59.22 | streuner_ | !pastebinit |
| 02:59.23 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <nopaste>. |
| 02:59.34 | somiaj | streuner_: the version in squeeze is 2.11.3-2 the version ou have is 2.11.2-10 |
| 02:59.40 | somiaj | sanduz2: ^^ |
| 02:59.45 | somiaj | streuner_: I is bad at tab completion |
| 02:59.59 | streuner_ | somiaj: no worries, that happens all the time... |
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| 03:00.18 | sanduz2 | somiaj, that package handles all the mount and df and all that stuff? |
| 03:00.40 | somiaj | sanduz2: no that is just a very core package that most other packages depend on |
| 03:00.52 | sanduz2 | oh ok |
| 03:00.56 | somiaj | sanduz2: so it is a quick test to see if you are really running an offical debian release or not, and you are not for some reason. |
| 03:01.14 | somiaj | sanduz2: did you install squeeze before it fully stabalized? |
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| 03:01.19 | sanduz2 | i had to install some packages that were not on the stable repo |
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| 03:01.31 | sanduz2 | somiaj, nope |
| 03:01.42 | sanduz2 | weird |
| 03:01.50 | somiaj | sanduz2: they must have brought in that strange version of the lib, not sure if that is why you are getting different results than us, but it could be. |
| 03:02.10 | sanduz2 | somiaj, thanks ill look into that |
| 03:02.27 | streuner_ | sanduz2: what kind of hardware do you use Debian at all? |
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| 03:03.58 | streuner_ | ii libc6 2.11.2-10 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared Libraries - /me never saw this before |
| 03:04.19 | streuner_ | "Embedded" |
| 03:04.47 | somiaj | my libc6 packages in both squeeze and sid have the same description |
| 03:04.56 | sanduz2 | streuner_, just a regular amd processor and motherboard. regular stuff |
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| 03:06.27 | somiaj | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libc6 |
| 03:06.37 | somiaj | seems the description changed sometime between Lenny and Squeeze |
| 03:06.48 | sanduz2 | somiaj, i just updated squeeze and now its 2.11.3-3 :P |
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| 03:07.58 | somiaj | sanduz2: not sure if that explains why mount didn't give you as detailed info as I was expecting, but it leads to say you may have other things that arent' debian proper hiding in your system. |
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| 03:09.33 | sanduz2 | somiaj, i use a repository called http://packages.dotdeb.org to get some new versions of packages. thats the only thing i think it could possibly be |
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| 03:10.29 | streuner_ | that would be explain other thinks, but not libc6 |
| 03:10.37 | streuner_ | things* |
| 03:10.39 | somiaj | probabaly, I've heard in passing bad things about dotdeb here, and this leads me to think they have merit. |
| 03:10.50 | streuner_ | !dotdeb |
| 03:10.50 | dpkg | it has been said that dotdeb is for the latest PHP and MySQL releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/ , but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN. The packages from backports.debian.org are vastly superior. Ask me about <backports> and <debian-backports>. "aptitude purge ~Vdotdeb" |
| 03:11.26 | sanduz2 | hm maybe ill use backports in the future |
| 03:11.28 | sanduz2 | !backports |
| 03:11.29 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 03:12.11 | sanduz2 | how do i get dpkg to talk to me in PM again? lol |
| 03:12.25 | somiaj | sanduz2: /msg dpkg foo |
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| 03:12.29 | sanduz2 | thanks |
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| 03:12.38 | streuner_ | sanduz2: /msg dpkg (bot) backports (factoid) for example |
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| 03:12.55 | sanduz2 | thanks |
| 03:13.25 | Xenguy | streuner_: paste.debian.net/157608 |
| 03:13.35 | Xenguy | streuner_: now working on the sources.list |
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| 03:14.23 | streuner_ | omg, lenny <-> squeeze |
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| 03:14.58 | streuner_ | Xenguy: production server? |
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| 03:17.27 | streuner_ | Xenguy: in general, make a clear/correct sources.list and run apt-get update |
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| 03:19.40 | streuner_ | Xenguy: why not just use pastebinit ? |
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| 03:21.12 | Xenguy | streuner_: /etc/apt/sources.list is here: |
| 03:21.16 | Devilholk | Anyone know of a serial terminal that will allow me to manually toggle control signals, like RTS? |
| 03:21.19 | Xenguy | paste.debian.net/157610 |
| 03:21.29 | Devilholk | I need to test some hw |
| 03:22.13 | Xenguy | streuner_: It's my gateway, a single point of failure, and yes, it would be good if I could solve this ;-) |
| 03:23.29 | streuner_ | Xenguy: /msg dpkg security |
| 03:23.49 | streuner_ | Xenguy: i think there is something wrong with yours |
| 03:24.20 | Xenguy | streuner_: hrm, alright, will check on that, tx |
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| 03:24.45 | streuner_ | Xenguy: deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free vs. deb http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 03:26.43 | streuner_ | Xenguy: only to see the first error, not checking the main repo |
| 03:26.55 | streuner_ | Xenguy: deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main is the right repo |
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| 03:28.29 | Xenguy | streuner_: So you recommend I add a slash to the end of the URL ? |
| 03:28.41 | streuner_ | yes |
| 03:29.00 | streuner_ | that is my first impression |
| 03:29.14 | Xenguy | OK, so add the '/', then apt-get update again? |
| 03:29.20 | streuner_ | yes |
| 03:29.30 | Xenguy | Tx, will try that then |
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| 03:30.15 | somiaj | Xenguy: if this is lenny->squeeze make sure you /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze (you want to upgrade in a paticular order) |
| 03:31.01 | streuner_ | Xenguy: deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib |
| 03:31.52 | Xenguy | somiaj: tx, I did just that, and it worked fine on my guinea-pig laptop |
| 03:31.54 | streuner_ | Xenguy: well, the main repo seem to be correct |
| 03:32.18 | Xenguy | streuner_: I'm disabling the multimedia repo also just in case |
| 03:32.49 | streuner_ | Xenguy: shouldnt be a big issue, IMO, but anyway, it wouldnt hurd, true |
| 03:33.10 | Xenguy | I know, I'm a little nervous about the errors I'm getting TBH |
| 03:35.29 | Devilholk | gives up and hooks up this thing to a windows computer. I'm not writing my own drivers just to toggle a signal >.< |
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| 03:36.05 | Devilholk | Unless... some high level simple programming software can manipulate said control lines. Better look into that |
| 03:36.53 | somiaj | Devilholk: not sure if people in #hardware or maybe #linux would have any suggestion of tools at that level. |
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| 03:38.24 | Xenguy | streuner_: It fails with the same errors :-( |
| 03:38.27 | Devilholk | somiaj: I think I found a solution just now. Python has got some stuff for that =) |
| 03:38.57 | Xenguy | In the distant past I have uninstalled whatever package was seemingly causing dependency issues... |
| 03:39.16 | Xenguy | I wonder if there is any package in particular that is problematic? |
| 03:39.40 | streuner_ | Xenguy: release notes would tell you |
| 03:40.03 | Xenguy | streuner_: there was some reference in the errors to 'held packages' |
| 03:40.18 | Xenguy | I'm not sure how to troubleshoot that tho |
| 03:40.39 | streuner_ | Xenguy: hm, well, i would remove these packages first and reinstall them then |
| 03:41.16 | somiaj | Xenguy: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold |
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| 03:41.38 | Xenguy | streuner_ somiaj tx, I'll have a look at that |
| 03:41.50 | somiaj | though I guess if you used aptitude hold foo, that would use a different database for that. |
| 03:43.33 | Xenguy | somiaj: I have so far avoided aptitude, and weirdly, it appears to be currently uninstalled on this system, which does not seem like a good sign (there are dependency issues with it also?) |
| 03:44.12 | Xenguy | When I run 'dpkg --get-selections | grep hold', it points to package 'virtualbox' |
| 03:44.15 | Xenguy | Hrm |
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| 03:44.40 | somiaj | Xenguy: aptitude actually does something 'better' than apt-get, if the upgrade processes says use aptitude I would use that as some releases apt-get did a nicer job and others aptitude did. |
| 03:45.11 | Xenguy | somiaj: It is too late for that debate; I have used apt-get |
| 03:45.12 | somiaj | Xenguy: 'aptitude hold' is just a different way of holding packages than using dpkg, but this isn't saying aptitude should be aboided. |
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| 03:45.56 | Xenguy | I'm going to try to remove virtualbox |
| 03:46.48 | Xenguy | Damn, same errors |
| 03:47.32 | Xenguy | When I try to just run 'aptitude', I get 'command not found' :-/ |
| 03:48.07 | Xenguy | Then if I try to install aptitude, I get the same bunch of dependency errors |
| 03:48.17 | Xenguy | I think I am in deep shite |
| 03:48.29 | streuner_ | nah :-) |
| 03:48.57 | streuner_ | you have always alternatives in Debian, dpkg to remove, apt-get to get packages |
| 03:49.27 | Xenguy | I have never hit a brick wall with Debian before |
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| 03:49.57 | Xenguy | I have had only to lather/rinse/repeat, and dependency issues work themselves out |
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| 03:50.16 | Xenguy | So the question now is how do I move this upgrade forward? |
| 03:50.31 | Xenguy | Cos I really don't want to have to install this box from scratch |
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| 03:52.26 | Xenguy | streuner_: Were you able to access that first pastebin I posted? |
| 03:52.43 | streuner_ | sure |
| 03:52.54 | Xenguy | OK, it's hard to tell here |
| 03:53.12 | streuner_ | and thats still the error you get? |
| 03:53.38 | Xenguy | Yes, it the same errors regardless of what I am trying it seems |
| 03:53.42 | Xenguy | Is there any package that appears to be a particular culprit? |
| 03:53.49 | streuner_ | ok, first error count |
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| 03:54.10 | Xenguy | streuner_: hmmm? |
| 03:54.12 | streuner_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 03:54.12 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.31 | streuner_ | just remove/purge this package... |
| 03:54.34 | streuner_ | and so on |
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| 03:54.58 | Xenguy | OK, I'll try removing libapt-pkg4.10 |
| 03:55.52 | streuner_ | judd, versions libapt-pkg4.10 |
| 03:55.53 | judd | No package named 'libapt-pkg4.10' was found in i386. |
| 03:56.29 | Xenguy | no dice, I get the same errors (apt-get -f install produces the same errors also) |
| 03:56.31 | streuner_ | judd, versions libapt-pkg4.10 |
| 03:56.32 | judd | No package named 'libapt-pkg4.10' was found in i386. |
| 03:56.39 | streuner_ | well, just use dpkg then |
| 03:57.02 | Xenguy | streuner_: as in dpkg -r libapt-pkg4.10 ? |
| 03:57.19 | streuner_ | s/-r/--purge/ |
| 03:57.33 | Xenguy | Let me try dpkg then |
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| 03:57.57 | Matiasu_ | Hello |
| 03:58.32 | Matiasu_ | is there any iptables config file example out there (something like a template)? |
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| 03:59.17 | Matiasu_ | ...suitable for a Debian server |
| 03:59.50 | Xenguy | Matiasu_: you want a firewall script? |
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| 04:00.25 | Matiasu_ | well, yes. I just don't want to read a 100 pages books to understand and learn all iptables can do for me |
| 04:00.39 | Xenguy | streuner_: Just tried --purging virtualbox (which appears to be a problematic package |
| 04:01.16 | simonlnu | Matiasu_: if something is not listening on a port, the port is closed. simple really. that said, you might want to have a default DROP policy for incoming requests for various reasons. |
| 04:01.16 | Xenguy | Matiasu_: I recommend 'shorewall' package if you are comfortable running a firewall on the commmand-line |
| 04:02.04 | simonlnu | yeh shorewall's ok (i don't like it though because it's too blah-abstract) |
| 04:02.17 | Matiasu_ | I'll try it, thank you |
| 04:02.25 | Xenguy | grabs a pint for the home stretch... |
| 04:02.57 | Xenguy | Matiasu_: np, shorewall is a good reliable firewall script |
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| 04:09.17 | Xenguy | dpkg -r libapt-pkg4.10 |
| 04:09.18 | dpkg | removes libapt-pkg4.10 along with a pound of flesh from xenguy's body, then staples xenguy back up with a staple gun. |
| 04:09.18 | Xenguy | dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove libapt-pkg4.10 which isn't installed. |
| 04:09.44 | Xenguy | Thank you dpkg, I've already lost a pound actually ;) |
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| 04:15.39 | Xenguy | Hrm, when I try to install 'libapt-pkg4.10', it tells me that 'apt' conflicts with another package |
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| 04:17.54 | tjf | I am having issues with sound again.. |
| 04:17.57 | tjf | This time with Skype |
| 04:18.15 | tjf | Removing pulseaudio and starting Skype = Skype crash |
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| 04:18.46 | somethinginteres | really need help here. Debian netinst can't see my wireless USB adapter during install despite me running the non-free-frimware iso.Anyone? |
| 04:20.21 | vbrummond | tjf: i think it mentions this in the skype release notes http://blogs.skype.com/garage/2011/04/skype_22_beta_for_linux_with_s.html |
| 04:20.43 | blast_hardcheese | What package takes care of the issue of different terminals having different backspace sequences? (^? vs ^H, mainly) |
| 04:21.09 | blast_hardcheese | This is something I haven't had to deal with since etch, but suddenly a friend of mine is experiencing issues like this |
| 04:21.12 | tjf | flips tables |
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| 04:23.51 | somiaj | somethinginteres: what is your actually wireless chipset? |
| 04:24.00 | Xenguy | Man, I am really fucking hosed here, god damn :-( |
| 04:24.29 | somiaj | somethinginteres: look it up on the debian wiki. NOte the netinstall contains the base system so you can install a functional debian base system without the internet. You can then get the wireless card working on that base system and then continue to install the rest from the internet |
| 04:24.32 | blast_hardcheese | Xenguy: Sounds like fun :) |
| 04:24.58 | Xenguy | blast_hardcheese: I find it fun when stuff just works :P |
| 04:25.07 | blast_hardcheese | Bah, what's the fun in that ;) |
| 04:25.11 | Xenguy | I just wanted to upgrade to Debian stable |
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| 04:25.23 | Xenguy | It's always worked before |
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| 04:25.28 | Xenguy | *shrug* |
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| 04:25.51 | blast_hardcheese | What errors are you getting currently? |
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| 04:26.11 | Aerosonic | Hey guys, Gparted Live runs on Debian, and apparently it's full of poop. |
| 04:26.12 | blast_hardcheese | Also, what are you upgrading /from/, potato? |
| 04:26.33 | Xenguy | blast_hardcheese: A bunch of dependency errors, and apt-get -f install produces the same errors |
| 04:26.55 | Xenguy | lenny->squeeze |
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| 04:27.48 | Xenguy | I followed the instructions given by '/msg dpkg lenny->squeeze' |
| 04:28.07 | Xenguy | It worked fine on my laptop for instance... |
| 04:28.11 | Elive_user76_en | how to chat using terminal in elive |
| 04:28.26 | Xenguy | But not on my gateway box tonight |
| 04:28.38 | Xenguy | The important one, of course ;-) |
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| 04:29.22 | Aerosonic | nevermind. |
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| 04:29.47 | Rusty1 | apt-get clean followed by use of aptitude in place of apt-get produce anything usable? |
| 04:30.00 | Elive_user76_en | how to chat using terminal in debian elive |
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| 04:31.12 | lstarnes | Elive_user76_en: it depends on the chat protocol\ |
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| 04:31.31 | Xenguy | Rusty1: Was that for me? |
| 04:31.38 | Elive_user76_en | how about irssi |
| 04:32.18 | Xenguy | Wow, disaster city |
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| 04:32.48 | somiaj | Elive_user76_en: bitlbee is a servr you can run (then connect to via an irc client such as irssi) that will connenct to various IM sites, such as jabber, irc, msn, yahoo, etc |
| 04:33.43 | Rusty1 | Xenguy: aye |
| 04:34.37 | Elive_user76_en | how about write in terminal.. when i try it the user cannot logged in |
| 04:34.48 | Xenguy | Rusty1: It seems that aptitude is not currently installed (installing it produces the same errors)... |
| 04:35.04 | Xenguy | And I'm not even sure apt is installed at this point :-/ |
| 04:35.20 | CDeLorme | Does anyone know where I could find instructions to setup debian squeeze with efi+grub2 boot loader? |
| 04:35.26 | somethinginteres | *sigh* grub won't install. "grub-install /dev/sda failed" :( |
| 04:36.26 | Xenguy | Rusty1: I'll try that, sec |
| 04:37.34 | somiaj | somethinginteres: pasting the actual errors may give more info. Also are you trying to install grub from some live/resuce cd or booted up into your actual install? |
| 04:38.10 | CDeLorme | I installed debian, made a FAT32 partition with bootable flag, skipped adding a loader since I don't want MBR on it. |
| 04:38.25 | CDeLorme | Used a live cd to manually boot linux, and installed grub-efi-amd64 |
| 04:38.41 | somethinginteres | somiaj: This is in the debian netinst amd64 installer. Unfortunately, the text I pasted is all that is displayed. |
| 04:39.52 | somiaj | somethinginteres: ok what you'll want to do is hit alt-f2 to open up a console |
| 04:40.59 | somethinginteres | somiaj: on the screen with the error now. I pressed alt+F2. Nothing occured. |
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| 04:41.32 | somiaj | somethinginteres: how about ctrl-alt-f2 |
| 04:41.50 | somiaj | somethinginteres: either way you need to get to a console and chroot into your target install. From there you should be able to fix it |
| 04:42.36 | CDeLorme | my grub-install doesn't recognize the --bootloader-id flag, doesn't like /dev/sda or /dev/sda1, and even though I've mounted it to /boot/efi, it doesn't work unless I specifically use --boot-directory= flag pointing to /boot/efi |
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| 04:43.06 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK I'm at "Press enter to activate console". If you don't mind I'll probably need some heavy coaching in this. Never done anything like this before. |
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| 04:44.00 | somethinginteres | CDeLorme: hmm |
| 04:44.15 | somiaj | somethinginteres: ok open the console, then type 'df' and hit enter |
| 04:44.56 | somiaj | somethinginteres: do you see your target root parttion mounted anywhere, lets say /target (I think that is where it should be put) |
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| 04:47.32 | DanDare | Whats better for Squeeze? Get latest openoffice from their site or just install using apt? Sorry for the kinda pointless question but its Squeeze openoffice version too much old ? |
| 04:48.06 | DanDare | Too much differences or bugs ? |
| 04:48.30 | somethinginteres | somiaj: I do see a /target but it is difficult to see what "sd" it is as the text doesn't easily align. It looks like it is on sdb but I'm not sure why that'd be the case. |
| 04:48.45 | cheapie | I have LTSP set up, but when the clients try to boot, they can't mount the NBD filesystem and drop me to BusyBox. |
| 04:49.30 | somiaj | somethinginteres: well if /target is already mounted, is there a /target/dev and /target/proc that are mounted as well? |
| 04:51.16 | Xenguy | Debian, I am pissed |
| 04:51.27 | Xenguy | See you tomorrow |
| 04:51.38 | somethinginteres | somiaj: there's a /target/dev listed but no /target/proc. FYI fdisk -l reports the drive I installed my root onto as sdc specifically sdc1 for / |
| 04:51.42 | dvs | O_O |
| 04:51.50 | Xenguy | We'll do battle again |
| 04:51.55 | somethinginteres | somiaj: there's also a /target/home listed |
| 04:51.56 | Rusty1 | Xenguy: |
| 04:52.08 | Xenguy | Rusty1: hullo |
| 04:52.15 | somiaj | somethinginteres: ok, then just do this 'chroot /target' |
| 04:52.21 | somiaj | somethinginteres: you are now inside the install. |
| 04:52.22 | Hemebond | Anyone know of some nice instructions on how to install Debian testing with LXDE from a USB pen drive? |
| 04:52.46 | cheapie | Hello? Can anybody help me at all? |
| 04:53.08 | Rusty1 | in the time it will take to upgrade you could simply install squeeze, peel off your home first |
| 04:53.09 | somiaj | somethinginteres: from there type 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' |
| 04:53.17 | dvs | \/lastlog cheapie |
| 04:53.27 | somiaj | somethinginteres: and it should give you a list of questions to answer about grub |
| 04:53.42 | Rusty1 | to a partition |
| 04:53.43 | lstarnes | cheapie: I'm sorry but I know nothing about LTSP. I wish I could help more |
| 04:53.44 | Xenguy | Rusty1: You are suggesting a fresh install? |
| 04:53.56 | Rusty1 | Xenguy: yup |
| 04:54.12 | Xenguy | Rusty1: I consider that a worst case scenario |
| 04:54.21 | Hemebond | somiaj: Are you helping someone with that grub "can't install to /target" problem? |
| 04:54.23 | Xenguy | Rusty1: this system is customized to the hilt |
| 04:54.51 | Rusty1 | Xenguy: condider time spent=time wasted |
| 04:54.52 | Xenguy | Rusty1: And the reason I chose Debian in the first place is because, unlike RH etc., I can actually successfully upgrade online |
| 04:54.57 | somiaj | Hemebond: I belive so |
| 04:55.08 | Hemebond | somiaj: I got hit with that too. |
| 04:55.09 | Xenguy | Rusty1: Except for this time, which is definitely a pissoff :P |
| 04:55.25 | Hemebond | somiaj: Didn't fix. Switch distro. |
| 04:55.31 | Hemebond | *switched |
| 04:56.21 | Xenguy | Anyhow, I've had enough lack of joy for one night, and will tackle this again in the morrow |
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| 04:56.39 | Xenguy | Thanks everyone/anyone who attempted to help :-) |
| 04:56.43 | somiaj | Hemebond: its not hard to fix, though be nice if there were some decent documentation to point to (sure there is but I haven't found it) |
| 04:57.20 | somiaj | Hemebond: though I never had a problem with a netinstaller, sems the installer on the debian-live images were doing this to me to. |
| 04:57.30 | Hemebond | somiaj: I see. |
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| 04:57.36 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK as expected questions are popping up. First one says "the following Linux command line was extracted from /etc/default/grub. Verify it is correct" The line to verify is blank though |
| 04:57.48 | Daniel70 | hi guys, about to install debian i386 (i5 750 with 8 Gb ram), will squeeze see all 8 Gb of ram ? |
| 04:57.49 | Hemebond | somiaj: I used the netinst ISO from a USB drive. |
| 04:57.58 | lstarnes | Daniel70: no |
| 04:58.02 | lstarnes | not without PAE |
| 04:58.08 | somiaj | Hemebond: I always used it from a cd, but the live installers from the usb drive...hmm |
| 04:58.25 | somiaj | somethinginteres: its ok, that is kernel boot paramaters, such as 'quiet' if you don't want lots of text output when you boot |
| 04:58.37 | somiaj | somethinginteres: being blank is just fine |
| 04:58.42 | Diopter | Netinst from USB works great for me. |
| 04:58.44 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: what PAE depends on, processor, OS setup ? |
| 04:58.58 | lstarnes | Daniel70: kernel setup |
| 04:59.04 | Diopter | Daniel70: Why would you choose i386 on an i5 with 8GB of RAM if you didn't absolutely have to? |
| 04:59.32 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: do I need it before install or can I recompile kernel after ? |
| 04:59.43 | lstarnes | Daniel70: I personally would advise using amd64. most multilib stuff works well enough, and I honestly think it's time for 32-bit to go the way of 16-bit |
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| 05:00.00 | Diopter | Long past time, imo. |
| 05:00.13 | somiaj | Hemebond: http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover |
| 05:00.33 | somiaj | somethinginteres: ^^ (though that is different than the method I gave you both work, I am giving you the method I used to fix this problem) |
| 05:00.48 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: see, I'm reinstalling from scratch a new system, any advice is very much welcome |
| 05:00.53 | lstarnes | Daniel70: if you still absolutely do not want 64-bit, then you can install the i386 version normally. I'm not sure if you can select the -pae version of the kernel from the install CD< but you can install it after you install the system |
| 05:01.28 | Hemebond | somiaj: Is installing Grub the last thing the Debian installer does? |
| 05:01.44 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: I'm having problems with the memory sticks on that mother, it seems Intel DP55WB is very much touchy on what sticks it likes |
| 05:01.56 | lstarnes | Daniel70: I'm not sure if PAE is enabled in the stock 686 kernel |
| 05:02.31 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: since I have to change memory sticks, I figured I could get some more ram |
| 05:03.14 | somethinginteres | somiaj: right. It's asking me what device to install grub on. Do I select /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1 (which is specifically my / )? |
| 05:03.22 | somiaj | Hemebond: for all pratical poruposes yes |
| 05:03.35 | somiaj | somethinginteres: you select the device you tell your bios to boot off of |
| 05:03.51 | somiaj | somethinginteres: it doesnt have to be the same disk that the system is installed on |
| 05:04.12 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: I'm yet not decided but since 32 bits cant see more than 4 Gb, I could very well go for 64 bits OS |
| 05:04.33 | lstarnes | Daniel70: it can with PAE, but I'd personanly just go for 64-bit |
| 05:04.33 | Daniel70 | just deciding both things at once |
| 05:05.24 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: so I can change my ram for another 4 gb from other brand, or go 64 bits and get up to 16 gb |
| 05:05.47 | Hemebond | somiaj: Would you just boot the netinst USB drive again and choose a "recover system" option? |
| 05:05.50 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK well in my case it's the same drive so I just select the overall drive /dev/sdc rather than /dev/sdc1? |
| 05:06.00 | Diopter | Daniel70: There are a lot more benefits to 64-bit than just RAM size. |
| 05:06.03 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: will 64 bits be better for virtualization ? |
| 05:06.06 | somiaj | somethinginteres: you can do either, but most will want the mbr (/dev/sdc) |
| 05:06.06 | lstarnes | Daniel70: considering that software 2 years from now will use substantially more RAM, it might be a good idea to use 32-bit with PAE or 64-bit |
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| 05:06.19 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK. |
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| 05:06.33 | lstarnes | Daniel70: it should be, especially since you can virtualize 64-bit OSes |
| 05:07.08 | somiaj | Hemebond: that is one way, note if you use 'recover=/dev/rootpartition' you will actually boot into your install using the netinstall kernel |
| 05:07.08 | Diopter | 64-bit is better for virtualization in several ways, not the least of which being that you then get guest OS flexibility |
| 05:07.21 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: and will I be able to virtualize 32 bits Win XP in a 64 bits debian ? I guess yes, just to be sure |
| 05:07.29 | lstarnes | yes |
| 05:07.51 | somiaj | Hemebond: you can also start the installer answer the first few questions about languange, hit alt-f2 (open up a new console) and from there either follow that link I gave you or do what I had somethinginteres do, chroot into your install and configure grub from there |
| 05:07.58 | lstarnes | anything 32-bit can work on a 64-bit system provided that you have the 32-bit libraries it uses |
| 05:08.18 | ScottSteiner | My system has 3 drives: my system drive and then two other drives in a logical volume. If I reinstall debian on the system drive, will that affect the logical volume at all? |
| 05:08.23 | Daniel70 | lstarnes: fine then, I'll try to go for 64 bits debian and 16 Gb ram |
| 05:08.26 | somiaj | Hemebond: though I forget the exact syntax for the recover option I was just pointing out that is different than just botting into the minial install system and then switching to a console. |
| 05:09.04 | Daniel70 | thanks lstarnes and Diopter for your help !! |
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| 05:09.24 | Diopter | Sure thing. Embrace the bits! The more the merrier. And such |
| 05:09.50 | Hemebond | somiaj: I see. |
| 05:10.02 | Hemebond | somiaj: (kind of) |
| 05:10.36 | somethinginteres | somiaj: Right. I ran that no error reported and it found the Linux stuff. It didn't mention anything about my WIndows 7 install on /dev/sdb (probably b/c I only selected /dev/sdc. Should I select both to get all recognised? |
| 05:10.45 | somiaj | Hemebond: I personally just use a live system as it gives me more tools. But you have all the tools. |
| 05:10.57 | somiaj | somethinginteres: no you only want to put grub in a single place |
| 05:11.01 | Hemebond | somiaj: A live system? What do you mean? |
| 05:11.07 | Hemebond | somiaj: Oh, a LiveCD? |
| 05:11.10 | somiaj | Hemebond: live.debian.net |
| 05:11.24 | somiaj | Hemebond: correct, so you are in a full os as opposed to a recovery or limited install shell |
| 05:11.29 | Hemebond | somiaj: Right. |
| 05:11.47 | somiaj | Hemebond: but then I know my way around linux well enough with chroots I prefer a full set of tools |
| 05:12.28 | somiaj | somethinginteres: there is a package called os-prober you can install to try to find your windows installer, but right now you should be able to tell your biso to boot off the linux drive or windows drive. When you tell it to boot off the linux drive it will see grub and use it |
| 05:12.50 | somiaj | somethinginteres: personally I would get yourself booting into your linux system and then worry about getting windows to boot with it next |
| 05:13.04 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK sure. Let me see if it boots |
| 05:13.10 | Diopter | full toolchain + chroot > busybox |
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| 05:15.00 | Hemebond | Is this forum post http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=59121 correct if I want to switch to Debian Testing after install via Live or Netinst? |
| 05:15.09 | Hemebond | Seems very convoluted. |
| 05:16.11 | somiaj | Hemebond: it is, simpliest way is change your sources from 'squeeze' or 'stable' to 'wheezy' (please don't use 'testing', you can but there are reasons not to) |
| 05:16.35 | somiaj | Hemebond: they have some complicated setup where they are using multiple unoffical repos and mixing testing and sid with pinning. |
| 05:16.37 | Hemebond | somiaj: I just want a Debian install that is not years old. |
| 05:16.44 | somiaj | Hemebond: though it is suggested that you stick with stable and use backports |
| 05:17.05 | somiaj | Hemebond: until you learn debian better stick with stable (learn how debian works) |
| 05:17.17 | somiaj | Hemebond: many packages that you want newer (this will boil down to a few) can be done with backports |
| 05:17.50 | somiaj | Hemebond: don't fall into the newer is better mentality, stability/security is what debian is based on (though I run sid myself, but I have to fix it most ugrades) |
| 05:18.12 | dvs | !sns |
| 05:18.13 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 05:18.14 | Hemebond | somiaj: Newer is better when the app is crashing or just plain broken. |
| 05:18.32 | somiaj | Hemebond: which app? I find apps crash more in testing/unstable than they do in stable. |
| 05:18.41 | Hemebond | But if this backports system is how it's done in Debian, I will learn it. |
| 05:18.51 | Hemebond | somiaj: pcmanfm |
| 05:18.52 | Diopter | I run testing most everywhere, but I've been doing this a long time |
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| 05:19.12 | somiaj | Hemebond: backport is your new software/app complied against the libaries in squeeze (This way you only have the app at a newer version but you have the stability/security of a core squeeze system) |
| 05:19.22 | somiaj | ,versions pcmanfm |
| 05:19.23 | judd | Package: pcmanfm on i386 -- lenny: 0.5-3; squeeze: 0.9.7-1; wheezy: 0.9.8-2; sid: 0.9.10-2 |
| 05:19.30 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK that worked. It's only the base system no GUI or anything atm b/c despite using the nofree-firmware netinst iso it wouldn't use my usb network adapter. |
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| 05:19.56 | somiaj | somethinginteres: ok, well now lets get your wifi adapter working, lsusb for me and give me the chipset info on your wifi |
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| 05:21.24 | somiaj | Hemebond: seems you will have to make your own backport as one hasn't been made |
| 05:21.34 | somiaj | ,check-backport pcmanfm |
| 05:21.35 | Hemebond | somiaj: Pants. |
| 05:21.35 | judd | Backporting package pcmanfm in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libfm-dev (>= 0.1.17). |
| 05:21.50 | Diopter | Or the version in squeeze might be new enough |
| 05:21.54 | somiaj | Hemebond: seems you can't backport that package, without first backporting the libfm lib |
| 05:22.00 | Hemebond | Diopter: It's not. |
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| 05:22.15 | Hemebond | ,check-backport libfm |
| 05:22.16 | judd | Backporting package libfm in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
| 05:22.24 | Hemebond | um |
| 05:22.24 | somiaj | Hemebond: /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 05:22.34 | somiaj | but yea looks lke you'll have to backport that lib first |
| 05:22.38 | Hemebond | Does that mean it's only been backported for i386? |
| 05:23.00 | somiaj | Hemebond: no that means that i386 contains new enough libaries to compile the package (thus backport it) |
| 05:23.15 | somiaj | Hemebond: for the most part that shouldn't change on amd64 (but some packages just don't have an amd64 counterpart) |
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| 05:23.22 | somiaj | ,check-backport libfm amd64 |
| 05:23.23 | judd | Backporting package libfm in sid→squeeze/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
| 05:23.30 | Hemebond | beautiful. |
| 05:23.38 | somethinginteres | somiaj: this is the output I got from lsusb prior to the install using Ubuntu's terminal - "Bus 008 Device 002: ID 050d:705a Belkin Components F5D7050 Wireless G Adapter v3000 [Ralink RT2573]" |
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| 05:25.36 | dvs | ,usbid 050d:705a |
| 05:26.16 | somiaj | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 -- it appears that the device is supported, there is just a small difference the the Ralink RT version on the list there |
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| 05:26.53 | somiaj | somethinginteres: firmware-ralink wireless-tools -- looks like those are the packages you need, manually download them and copy them over on a usb drive to install |
| 05:27.21 | dvs | somethinginteres: http://wiki.debian.org/rt2500usb |
| 05:27.28 | somiaj | somethinginteres: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-ralink |
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| 05:27.48 | sklav | hi guys /girls |
| 05:27.57 | sklav | anybody here using django on debian squeeze |
| 05:28.04 | sklav | i have a package uestion |
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| 05:28.21 | sklav | ^question |
| 05:28.27 | Diopter | Ask it |
| 05:29.05 | sklav | where does debians django store the /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/contrib/admin/media |
| 05:29.14 | sklav | the directory is non existant |
| 05:29.51 | somiaj | dvs: funny that same device is mentioned on two different pages, one says use firmware other says don't. |
| 05:30.02 | somethinginteres | somiaj: just a case of sudo dpkg -i? |
| 05:30.17 | somiaj | somethinginteres: well sudo isn't installed by default, so just dpkg -i as root |
| 05:30.20 | Diopter | sklav: Use dpkg -L <package> to list what files a package has installed where |
| 05:30.33 | Hemebond | somiaj: Will the Live ISO work fine from a USB drive using dd? |
| 05:30.35 | sklav | Diopter, i will use that thanks |
| 05:30.38 | somethinginteres | somiaj: kk |
| 05:31.03 | somiaj | Hemebond: yes all of debian's iso files (both debian-live and installers) from squeeze onward are hybrid |
| 05:31.17 | Hemebond | somiaj: Cool bananas. Thank you. |
| 05:31.48 | somiaj | Hemebond: I personally prefer the usb-hdd images because they allow me to partition the rest of my usb drive to still use |
| 05:32.02 | somiaj | Hemebond: except in windows (damn remvoable disk flag making windows ignore all partitions beyond the first) |
| 05:32.19 | sklav | thanks Diopter that found showed me were to look |
| 05:32.31 | sklav | obviously not were all the docs told me |
| 05:32.44 | Diopter | You bet |
| 05:32.47 | somiaj | sklav: /usr/share/doc/<pkg name> is a nice place to look for stuff to |
| 05:32.57 | somiaj | sklav: sometimes it tells things that are specific to debian systems you won't see in other docs |
| 05:33.49 | somethinginteres | somiaj: now it says my login is incorrect. Sorry about this. :) |
| 05:34.12 | sklav | somiaj, i was under the impression debian stayed as close to upstream as possible ;) |
| 05:34.26 | Diopter | Er, not really, lol |
| 05:34.36 | somiaj | sklav: to a point, debian has its own standards on where different types of data should be stored |
| 05:35.09 | somiaj | sklav: some things hsould be left to upstream, the actual location in which data is stored, not really an upstream issue. |
| 05:35.24 | sklav | :) |
| 05:35.58 | somiaj | somethinginteres: well if you don't know the root password you picekd during the install you'll have troubles as you won't have sudo by default |
| 05:36.24 | somiaj | somethinginteres: so if you can't login as user 'root' with what ever password you chose for root you'll have to boot up off that installer again, mount your system, chroot into it and change the root password |
| 05:36.44 | sklav | or just do it threw grub |
| 05:37.01 | sklav | init=/bin/bash or bin/sh etc |
| 05:37.05 | somiaj | sklav: unfonrtally even debian is bad at certain things not going to upstream, some developers work closer with upstream than others for doing debian specific fixes/changes. |
| 05:37.33 | sklav | honestly now that i know where it is located it kinda makes sense |
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| 05:37.48 | somethinginteres | samiaj: yeah doesn;t seem to want to accept either the user or root pass |
| 05:37.54 | sklav | they put it under /usr/share/pyshared/django/contrib/ |
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| 05:38.38 | sklav | im guessing pyshared is for shared python code and obviously searching for site-packages retuned no results |
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| 05:39.09 | somiaj | sklav: well /usr/share is a well defined location for shared data on debian systems. But my comments were more in general about how well upstream is honored, the truth is it varies from package/matainer to package/matainer |
| 05:39.27 | Diopter | sklav: Debian is fairly intelligent about a lot of things. But it's also generally "The Debian Way" |
| 05:39.37 | Diopter | And not necessarily what upstream or <insert other major distro here> thinks is best |
| 05:39.38 | sklav | will keep that info in mind |
| 05:39.56 | sklav | either way it is all working again as expected ;) |
| 05:40.12 | sklav | so a path change in my script is the least of my worries |
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| 05:52.40 | sklav | Diopter and somiaj thank you for the references and pointer |
| 05:52.50 | sklav | have a goodnight |
| 05:52.57 | Diopter | Sure thing. Likewise |
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| 06:01.14 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK. Success. I have changed my root password and am logged in. Tried to change the password for my normal user and it says it doesn;t exist. Very odd. |
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| 06:01.55 | Hemebond | somethinginteres: Does your name have an apostrophe in it? |
| 06:02.28 | somethinginteres | Hemebond: nope. |
| 06:02.31 | somiaj | somethinginteres: cat /etc/passwd -- do you see the user you created in that list? |
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| 06:04.22 | somethinginteres | somiaj: nope not there |
| 06:04.47 | somiaj | somethinginteres: grep 1000 /etc/passwd |
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| 06:05.23 | somiaj | somethinginteres: it seems that your root password and user wern't created for some reason if that is empty. In that case just 'adduser username' |
| 06:05.51 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK |
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| 06:12.22 | LinuxApprentice | hi, can someone help me install debian from an existing linux install utilizing the entire hd? |
| 06:14.38 | Diopter | Why do you want to install from within the existing one if you want to use the entire HD? |
| 06:14.52 | Diopter | Just put the installer on some boot media and go to town |
| 06:15.41 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK I've gone ahead and installed the wifi firmware. Reboot to take effect or? |
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| 06:16.31 | somiaj | somethinginteres: reboot will make it work but it isn't needed |
| 06:17.00 | somiaj | somethinginteres: just modprobe -r <module name> |
| 06:17.16 | somiaj | somethinginteres: lsmod | grep rt to get that, I forget which one it was for you. |
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| 06:22.11 | somethinginteres | somiaj: ran modprobe on rt73usb - no errors though ifconfig doesn;t list a wlan0 |
| 06:22.21 | somiaj | somethinginteres: ifconfig -a |
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| 06:23.51 | Diopter | For reference, ifconfig and route are outdated and very deprecated in favor of iproute2 |
| 06:23.58 | Diopter | (which doesn't hide interfaces that are down) |
| 06:24.07 | somethinginteres | somiaj: there's now a "lo" "eth0" and "wlan0" listed. When I just reolugged in the device it said "Error - failed to allocate device: |
| 06:24.23 | somethinginteres | Diopter: thanks for the heads up |
| 06:25.34 | Diopter | "ip a" will show you the interfaces, along with addresses (if any), or "ip l" for just interfaces and link-layer information |
| 06:25.58 | Diopter | (short for "ip address" and "ip link"; you can abbreviate almost every part of an "ip" command) |
| 06:26.48 | somethinginteres | Diopter: doesn;t seem to have an IP yet. and wlan0 info says "Link Encap:Ethernet" |
| 06:27.45 | Diopter | It will say that, yeah. 802.11 encapsulates ethernet frames. |
| 06:27.59 | somiaj | somethinginteres: your device is there and if you see no firmware issues it is ready to be brought up. I prefer to do this all with the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 06:28.15 | Diopter | (802.11 is wireless. All of the 802 group standards relate to ethernet) |
| 06:28.24 | somethinginteres | Diopter:kk |
| 06:28.51 | somethinginteres | somiaj: only error is that "failed to allocate device" one when I plugged it in |
| 06:29.10 | somethinginteres | somiaj: other than that. No problems. |
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| 06:29.37 | Diopter | If you want to bring it up manually you can certainly do it by hand. Even if you're using WPA, it's fairly straightforward |
| 06:29.44 | Diopter | (unless you're connecting to an enterprise WPA network :P) |
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| 06:30.08 | somethinginteres | Diopter: WPA2 home network |
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| 06:31.01 | Diopter | So, you can give it a try the way somiaj is suggesting, but if you need to troubleshoot it manually, you'll be making use of wpa_passphrase and wpa_supplicant to get a link, in conjuction with dhclient to get an IP |
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| 06:32.35 | somethinginteres | Diopter: whatever is easiest. I am an absolute vi/terminal newbie. /etc/network/interfaces/ currently only has auto lo in it along with the line :iface lo inet loopback" underneath |
| 06:33.19 | somiaj | somethinginteres: wpasupplicant may not have been installed by default, check that if it is not you can't use wpa encryption |
| 06:33.25 | somiaj | somethinginteres: dpkg -l | grep wpasupplicant |
| 06:34.22 | somethinginteres | somiaj: doesn't look like it's there |
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| 06:35.29 | somiaj | somethinginteres: down load it and its depends from packages.debian.org/wpasupplicant |
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| 06:38.17 | somethinginteres | somiaj: I also would need to download the dependencies for the dependencies.. right? |
| 06:39.00 | somiaj | somethinginteres: only the ones that aren't installed. |
| 06:39.10 | somiaj | somethinginteres: most of them should be |
| 06:39.29 | somiaj | are you sure your wireless network uses wpa? |
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| 06:39.43 | neoplus_1 | hi |
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| 06:40.12 | somethinginteres | somiaj: not the adapter itself sorry. The network itself via the router runs WPA2 protection |
| 06:40.25 | somethinginteres | somiaj: * not |
| 06:40.55 | somiaj | somethinginteres: yea then once you get that you should just need to put 3 lines in your /etc/network/interfaces file |
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| 06:41.10 | Diopter | Same difference. That means your wireless adapter has to use WPA2 to establish a link to the router over wireless. |
| 06:42.39 | somiaj | somethinginteres: http://paste.debian.net/157617/ after that 'ifup wlan0=home' will bring up your device |
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| 06:47.20 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK. Some of the deps have [ia64] in brackets I don't need them do I since I'm running amd64? There's a red dot next to it though |
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| 06:47.45 | somiaj | somethinginteres: correct |
| 06:48.01 | somiaj | somethinginteres: personally I'd just grab the package, try to install it. If it complains about a dependency go get it, repeate |
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| 06:49.07 | somethinginteres | somiaj: just dpkg -i *.deb? |
| 06:49.56 | somiaj | somethinginteres: basically, use tab completion to fill out names (don't want to grab other .deb files you have sitting in that directory) |
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| 06:56.57 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK debs installed. No apparent errors |
| 06:57.20 | somiaj | somethinginteres: look at that link, bring your interface up |
| 06:57.39 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK |
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| 07:01.02 | somethinginteres | somiaj: how do I get vi to let me type on a new line? |
| 07:01.49 | sgharms | Hello all, I'm looking for some hard core SSH CLI wisdom. I've set up an SSH tunnel over which I run FTP (don't ask). When i connect to the tunnel, I am redirected properly and can log in (yay) to the FTP host. But when I try to do a command like `ls` or `pwd` I get "ftp: Can't connect to `::1': Connection refused" -- I've tried this with passive mode on and off. Watching the SSH tunnel with -v on doesn't show any errors. I'm pretty baffled about wher |
| 07:02.01 | somiaj | somethinginteres: hit 'i' |
| 07:02.11 | somiaj | somethinginteres: or insert (hit escape then :wq) to exit |
| 07:02.38 | valdyn | sgharms: sssh uses multiple ports and connections, one ssh tunnel only provides one |
| 07:02.44 | valdyn | sgharms: ftp uses multiple ports and connections, one ssh tunnel only provides one |
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| 07:03.11 | sgharms | valdyn: That seemed to be the likely path of the problem... |
| 07:03.18 | valdyn | !ssh must die |
| 07:03.21 | sgharms | valdyn: but how can i deduce what additional tunnels need to be created? |
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| 07:03.28 | valdyn | damn brain fart |
| 07:03.31 | valdyn | !ftp must die |
| 07:03.32 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html |
| 07:03.36 | valdyn | sgharms: ^^ |
| 07:03.45 | valdyn | sgharms: you should probably not use ftp |
| 07:03.56 | somethinginteres | somiaj: b/c there's already info about loopback in there pressing i just starts typing at the begining of that line. Not a new one |
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| 07:04.30 | Diopter | sgharms: I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how ftp works. |
| 07:04.43 | Diopter | sgharms: Furthermore, holy crap, why aren't you just using sftp if you want ftp+ssh? |
| 07:05.47 | somiaj | somethinginteres: correct, put this at the end of the file |
| 07:05.51 | Diopter | Or rsync. Or scp. Or anythingbutftp |
| 07:05.51 | somiaj | somethinginteres: you can have multiple interfaces there |
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| 07:06.08 | somiaj | somethinginteres: the reason why I called it 'home' was to inspire you on how you can set up differetn wirless networks this way |
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| 07:06.41 | valdyn | sgharms: im sure its possible to do what you want via packet inspection, but this path leads nowhere, its to hard to be an option |
| 07:07.16 | Diopter | valdyn: Conntrack helpers for FTP over SSH to setup new tunnels automagically or NAT to existing tunnels... |
| 07:07.18 | Diopter | shudders |
| 07:07.24 | Diopter | Just what we need. Tunnel pools. |
| 07:07.42 | valdyn | Diopter: yes indeed |
| 07:08.15 | sgharms | Diopter: valdyn OK here's the mystery I'm dealing with. |
| 07:09.30 | valdyn | sgharms: its not hard to tunnel ftp, but dont try via ssh, theres plenty ways to create "complete" vpn |
| 07:09.31 | sgharms | Diopter: valdyn : Client gives me an ftp site to access the files for their site I'll be working on. from my house (for some reason) I can't ftp to their machine. I go to Derpbucks and get on their wifi: I can ftp to the site. I log into an shell account I have: I can get to the site |
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| 07:09.52 | sgharms | valdyn: Diopter so for some reason, when I ssh from within my home, no go (probably something screwy with the way my building is NATting, I'd suspect) |
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| 07:10.12 | Diopter | Ah, so outgoing port 21 from your house is blocked by your ISP, ostensibly. |
| 07:10.28 | valdyn | sgharms: is your nat done by a custom linux kernel? |
| 07:10.30 | sgharms | so my goal is to /effectively/ act as if my FTP tunnel is coming from my shell account host (i.e. i want to tunnel /via/ them ) |
| 07:10.47 | sgharms | Diopter: I thought that, but ftp.mutt.org (say) is just fine |
| 07:10.49 | Diopter | Why not just log into your shell and run the ftp command? |
| 07:11.06 | Diopter | Have you tried passive ftp mode from your house? |
| 07:11.58 | sgharms | Diopter: Yes I have tried the -[p]assive flag. And yeah, I agree keeping an extra shell session open so i can slurp, etc via the shll account is possible...butI was *sure* SSH could help me here |
| 07:12.19 | sgharms | it felt like one of those things like "Hey, shave a yak and look at the SSH man page and it'll be SO SWEET when it works." |
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| 07:12.37 | sgharms | for the record, valdyn and Diopter it is not *SO SWEET* |
| 07:13.19 | Diopter | The issues is that the FTP protocol uses two channels, control and data. |
| 07:13.58 | Diopter | Active is where the FTP server initiates a connection to the client's same source port it connected in on, from the server's port 20, for data. |
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| 07:14.15 | Diopter | Passive is where the server picks a random high port in a range, and the client connects in to it for data. |
| 07:14.53 | Diopter | Passive was designed for inbound-filtered clients, which is commonly by virtue of outgoing NAT |
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| 07:15.44 | sgharms | Diopter: I think it must be something about the inbound filtering. LIke I said, I can log into the box, i only see the issue once the remote starts trying to send back |
| 07:15.47 | Hemebond | Using dd to put the Live ISO onto a USB stick didn't work; didn't boot from the stick. |
| 07:16.05 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK file edited and wlan0 has an ip did get an error though "chown couldn't get attributes of /etc/resolve.conf" |
| 07:16.25 | somethinginteres | somiaj: but I seem to have an ip. |
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| 07:16.44 | Diopter | somethinginteres: Can you ping 8.8.8.8? |
| 07:16.46 | somiaj | somethinginteres: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 07:18.15 | Hemebond | Does it need a partition before I dd? |
| 07:18.22 | Diopter | Hemebond: No. |
| 07:18.34 | Diopter | Hemebond: You'll want to be dd'ing to the base device, not to a partition. |
| 07:18.52 | Hemebond | Diopter: I'll try it again. |
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| 07:19.11 | Diopter | Hemebond: Can you show us your dd command before you run it? |
| 07:19.21 | somethinginteres | Diopter: yes. I can. |
| 07:19.30 | Hemebond | Diopter: sudo dd if=Downloads/debian-live-6.0.3-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 07:19.47 | somethinginteres | somiaj: that command gives me what looks like info on the file. resolv.conf |
| 07:19.57 | Diopter | Hemebond: Looks fine. Might want to add bs=1M to the end. Usually makes it go a bit faster. |
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| 07:20.07 | Hemebond | Diopter: Ooh, neat. |
| 07:20.09 | Diopter | somethinginteres: Cool, so you have internets! Now see if you have DNS. ping google.com |
| 07:20.09 | somiaj | somethinginteres: can I have it please. |
| 07:20.48 | somiaj | somethinginteres: /etc/resolv.conf contains your nameserver info for turning domain names into ips, seems something is slightly wrong with setting that up. Beyond that you should have internet. |
| 07:20.54 | Diopter | somethinginteres: You also want to make sure the file permissions are right, as somiaj is helping you with. But DNS might be working anyway. |
| 07:21.28 | Diopter | sgharms: So, first question imo is to figure out why you can ftp to some sites from home but not this one. |
| 07:21.44 | Diopter | sgharms: Rather than immediately getting janky with multiple SSH tunnels. |
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| 07:21.56 | somethinginteres | somiaj: the file itself or the command output? |
| 07:22.10 | somiaj | somethinginteres: I want to see the permissions on the file, so the output |
| 07:22.15 | somethinginteres | somiaj, Diopter: pinging google.com seems to work |
| 07:22.21 | somethinginteres | somiaj: OK\ |
| 07:22.47 | somiaj | somethinginteres: seems everything is fine, I'm just seeing why you got an error. |
| 07:23.19 | somethinginteres | somiaj: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root [date] /etc/resolv.conf |
| 07:23.19 | sgharms | Diopter: yeah, my angle on that was: I'll spend the next 2 days on hold with various ISP support staff |
| 07:23.30 | sgharms | Diopter: while I waited, i thought I'd try to do something to get around it |
| 07:23.42 | somiaj | somethinginteres: hmm, permissions seem just fine, so I'd ignore that error (strange you got it) |
| 07:23.48 | somiaj | !tell somethinginteres about squeeze sources |
| 07:23.50 | sgharms | but i concur, there is much jank afoot |
| 07:24.05 | somiaj | somethinginteres: set up your /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get update then you can start installing stuff. (: |
| 07:24.25 | somiaj | !tell somethinginteres about squeeze sources.list |
| 07:28.05 | somethinginteres | somiaj: noted re: sources.list. So to install GNOME just apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 07:28.37 | somiaj | somethinginteres: no you shouldn't need to dist-upgrade, you are running squeeze |
| 07:28.48 | somiaj | somethinginteres: if you want to install default tasks, just run 'tasksel' |
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| 07:29.39 | sgharms | well thanks for all your help in trying to help me think about this Diopter and valdyn. Have a good night. |
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| 07:39.56 | somethinginteres | somiaj: tasksel only has SSH server or manual package selection as options. |
| 07:40.23 | Diopter | somethinginteres: You might be missing the tasksel-data package... |
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| 07:42.40 | somethinginteres | Diopter: I'll check |
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| 08:04.12 | jameslord | http://paste.ubuntu.com/857492/ , what is the command to make the following rules as a side effect of iptables |
| 08:04.16 | jameslord | help:) |
| 08:05.57 | Diopter | jameslord: Do you mean... how do you make the rules you've listed from scratch? |
| 08:06.31 | Diopter | You're showing a pair of custom chains in the filter table: nat_reflection_fwd and zone_wan_forward |
| 08:06.43 | jameslord | Diopter, yes, what is the command to make these rules? |
| 08:06.46 | Diopter | Presumably since they're both named "fwd/forward", they're sub-chains of the FORWARD chain |
| 08:06.58 | Diopter | So first you need to make those chains |
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| 08:07.21 | jameslord | http://paste.ubuntu.com/857495/ error:( i am a new commer to iptables, so i need help:( |
| 08:07.58 | Diopter | Can I first ask what you're trying to accomplish? |
| 08:08.04 | Diopter | Looks like you're trying to forward a port |
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| 08:10.29 | jameslord | Diopter i want to connect a host behind a router |
| 08:10.45 | jameslord | Diopter what is the command? |
| 08:10.51 | Diopter | Right. So you're forwarding a port. |
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| 08:11.18 | Diopter | I see "root@OpenWrt" in the second command, so presumably that's your router. |
| 08:11.28 | jameslord | dude, yes |
| 08:11.35 | jameslord | tell me the command, plz |
| 08:12.17 | Diopter | You're not telling us enough to help you just yet. |
| 08:12.27 | petemc | you should be able to set up port forwarding via luci on openwrt |
| 08:12.49 | jameslord | petemc dude, luci is down, i must use command,understand? |
| 08:14.33 | Diopter | jameslord: It would help the most, then, if you ran "iptables-save" on the router, and pasted the output. |
| 08:14.51 | Diopter | That way I could see all of the rules in all of the tables, and see how traffic is currently flowing |
| 08:15.15 | Diopter | What you've shown me thus far just says "If traffic happens to be going to my 10. IP already on the RDP port, let it forward" |
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| 08:15.31 | Diopter | Which is not exactly what you want for forwarding traffic originating from the intarwebs |
| 08:16.04 | Diopter | You're going to need a DNAT, is the short answer, in the NAT table PREROUTING chain. |
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| 08:27.01 | Strav | He. Small question: I usually schedule a weekly reboot and fsck check on my nas (raid5 array) to ensure a minimum of data corruption but each time, the fsck process seem to terminate very quickly and I'm wondering if it really did it's job. What would be the best practices to ensure a clean and persisten raid5 array? |
| 08:27.52 | Diopter | How are you achieving your RAID5? Software? Hardware? |
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| 08:31.32 | cheapie | OK... I managed to get my old problem fixed, but now I get "No response from server: restarting..." whenever I try to log in from a thin client. I can SSH to the server OK though. |
| 08:33.17 | Diopter | cheapie: What sort of thin client? |
| 08:33.57 | cheapie | Diopter: I think it's called a "zero client". It PXE boots. |
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| 08:36.02 | Diopter | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.04 | Diopter | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.06 | Diopter | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:41.56 | Diopter | cheapie: Cool. So, are you on the same broadcast domain as the server? |
| 08:42.11 | Diopter | cheapie: Because in order to PXE boot, you need to obtain an address over DHCP from the server in question. |
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| 08:42.53 | cheapie | Diopter: It's getting an address and everything, it's LDM that's giving me the error when I try to log in. |
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| 08:52.31 | bool | it seems like everyone at postfix is at sleep, so i will try to ask here |
| 08:52.32 | bool | will reject_unknown_recipient_domain prevent email to be sent to the relayhostname server? |
| 08:52.45 | misch | hello #debian, i had an win7+debain install! i had to reinstall windows and now my debian doesnt boot! any hints? |
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| 08:53.16 | Diopter | misch: Windows 7 installed the Windows bootloader, and it doesn't see your linux partitions by default. |
| 08:53.30 | bool | misch: boot from linux install cd, select advanced -> console or something. reinstall grub to master boot record |
| 08:53.52 | bool | google how to reinstall grub to master boot record |
| 08:54.07 | Diopter | You can also technically just add your linux boot partition to the Windows bootloader... |
| 08:54.18 | Diopter | But it's a lot less flexible than grub, so I wouldn't recommend using it as the primary :P |
| 08:54.19 | file-exists-p | I have installed a fvwm package made from the git version, and aptitude update insists on removing it to put back the squeeze version. How can I tell it to not do that ? |
| 08:54.54 | Diopter | bool: I think the answer is no. But let me dig into it |
| 08:55.06 | cheapie | Diopter: Did you give up on my problem? |
| 08:55.41 | Diopter | cheapie: I'm not familiar with LDM. Not sure what to suggest! |
| 08:55.56 | misch | diopter bool, i had easyBCD as bootloader! it was installed on win7 and i didnt install grub to MBR! |
| 08:56.18 | misch | easyBCD was installed on win7* |
| 08:56.32 | Diopter | misch: So you need to re-setup your BCD with easyBCD or similar, to point to the boot partition where you installed grub |
| 08:56.37 | Diopter | Or just go install grub to MBR |
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| 08:56.55 | misch | i still have the debian 6/GNU as startoption, but when i try to run debian it tells me win7 install is broken |
| 08:57.27 | file-exists-p | I guess "echo fvwm hold | dpkg --set-selections" was what to do ? :) |
| 08:57.34 | misch | yea, thought reinstall easybcd fixes it automatically |
| 08:58.06 | Diopter | misch: Just reinstalling it wouldn't, no. You'll have to go add the entry again |
| 08:58.13 | Diopter | Most likely Win7 cleared it out |
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| 08:59.24 | Diopter | bool: reject_unknown_recipient_domain only applies when the recipient domain has no A or MX record, or the MX record is borked |
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| 09:01.10 | BoyOfWuHan | LFS6.3,complie glibe ,,chroot $LFS,and ./configure got this error msg"checking size of long double... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long double), 77",,,,,any help? |
| 09:02.40 | misch | diopter "Bootloader Path; \NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr", could this be the correct path=? |
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| 09:04.01 | Diopter | misch: Not sure. Been a while since I BCD'd. Doesn't look familiar, but hey, give it a shot? :P |
| 09:04.54 | misch | haha, why there is no bootloader tool that can be installed to Bios/Hardware,,,, |
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| 09:05.07 | misch | configurable in biosmenu would be perfect |
| 09:06.45 | misch | does debain 6 have grub or grub2 as default bootloader? i installed the default one but is it grub? or grub2? |
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| 09:07.27 | Diopter | Actually there is |
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| 09:07.37 | Diopter | EFI is essentially a bootloader tool :P |
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| 09:10.12 | bool | Diopter, ok, thanks |
| 09:10.16 | misch | oh wow, issue is fixed! AutoNeoGrub0.mbr was wrong ! |
| 09:10.33 | misch | thx diopter :P |
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| 09:11.04 | madi | hi all, my computer running debian sqweeze sometimes restarts by its own, I am checking kern.log and found : iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x2000000. |
| 09:11.19 | bool | misch, debian uses grub2 |
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| 09:12.10 | madi | is firmware-iwlwifi crashing? |
| 09:12.12 | misch | my debian was able to boot thx bool! i am logged in already |
| 09:12.15 | Diopter | madi: Looks like it. |
| 09:12.28 | bool | misch, np |
| 09:13.06 | madi | Diopter, i found it is an old bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=550534 any chance to solve it? |
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| 09:16.03 | Diopter | madi: Perhaps installing a newer kernel through squeeze backports |
| 09:16.16 | Diopter | That and/or newer firmware seem to be what the bug report suggests |
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| 09:21.07 | codepal | I want to stop pcmanfm from loading when I run lxsession.... any ideas? |
| 09:21.17 | codepal | there must be some setting somewhere? |
| 09:21.25 | misch | win7 is a joke or? i am browsing trough my win7 user files with linux as i am allowed! but its passwordprotected on win7 |
| 09:21.45 | codepal | I'm using a debian 6 server via X ssh - and don't really need an extra desktop loading... |
| 09:22.05 | codepal | I'm happy just with just using the debian panel only via ssh |
| 09:23.44 | Diopter | misch: linux filesystems offer no magic security either if you can mount them as you please from another running OS. |
| 09:23.49 | Trewas | misch: unless files are encrypted then that is as expected, linux can bypass the user/group based permissions of ntfs |
| 09:23.50 | Diopter | misch: Perhaps what you're looking for is encryption :P |
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| 09:27.11 | misch | well, as soon as i fixed my touchpad issues and wifi problems i am happy to do some daily works with linux, i am sill a beginner ... |
| 09:30.51 | bool | ok.. i have configured some spamfiltering within postfix and also spamassassin. i also use a relayhost for outgoing mail. will my spamfiltering be applied also when the email should be redirected to my relayhost? if i understand the process right: sender -> mypostfix smtp (perform spamchecks) -> relayhost smtp (new set of spamfiltering) -> receiver |
| 09:32.19 | Diopter | Should be |
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| 09:37.08 | mah454 | Hello |
| 09:37.13 | mah454 | I use debian testing ... |
| 09:37.20 | mah454 | kernel crashed : http://pastebin.com/6PbMQ4rK |
| 09:37.24 | mah454 | How can fix this ? |
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| 09:38.50 | somiaj | mah454: does your machine work with other kernels? |
| 09:39.08 | mah454 | somiaj, not tested |
| 09:39.25 | mah454 | I installed debian on Laptop vostro 3350 |
| 09:40.02 | somiaj | mah454: well it looks like sdb is bad, but if it is a bad kernel, nice to have one you know that works laying around. Try a live stable system |
| 09:40.22 | codepal | kill -sigterm $(pidof pcmanfm) in my .bashrc works alright |
| 09:40.36 | mah454 | somiaj, I have not any sdb drive ! |
| 09:40.58 | codepal | I use this debian 6 machine headless, so i guess I can run pcmanfm when I need to... |
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| 09:41.36 | somiaj | mah454: that is what kernel is complainging about. |
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| 09:45.17 | Hemebond | Has anyone tried doing this http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers with backporting? |
| 09:45.27 | Hemebond | I tried and failed. |
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| 09:48.30 | Hemebond | Oh. I didn't try dkms. |
| 09:51.19 | somiaj | Hemebond: there is a version already in squeeze-backports so you shouldnt have to backport it yourself |
| 09:51.25 | somiaj | ,versions nvidia-dkms |
| 09:51.26 | judd | No package named 'nvidia-dkms' was found in i386. |
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| 09:51.30 | somiaj | ,versions nvidia-kernel0dkms |
| 09:51.31 | judd | No package named 'nvidia-kernel0dkms' was found in i386. |
| 09:51.33 | somiaj | ,versions nvidia-kernel0-kms |
| 09:51.34 | judd | No package named 'nvidia-kernel0-kms' was found in i386. |
| 09:51.39 | somiaj | ,versions nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 09:51.40 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; squeeze-backports/non-free: 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 295.20-1; wheezy/non-free: 295.20-1; experimental/non-free: 295.20-1+exp1 |
| 09:51.45 | somiaj | (damn I can't type this late) |
| 09:51.45 | Hemebond | somiaj: Yeah, I'm just talking about installing it. |
| 09:51.53 | Hemebond | Never even considered making my own :-) |
| 09:52.00 | somiaj | Hemebond: /msg dpkg squeeze-backports |
| 09:52.24 | Hemebond | So I just backport nvidia-kernel-dkms? |
| 09:52.26 | somiaj | make sure you have linux-headers-`uname -r` for the kernel you are using installed |
| 09:52.27 | Hemebond | I'll try that now. |
| 09:52.33 | Hemebond | Okay. |
| 09:52.43 | somiaj | no you follow the instructions and install a backport (backporting it yourself is different) |
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| 09:53.17 | Hemebond | ah, that's what I mean. |
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| 10:08.01 | Arconiaprime | Is there anyway to override the default outgoing route? For some reason I can't ping outbound without specifying the -I <interface>. I have default routes setup for both LAN and WAN, however without a -I neither work properly outbound. |
| 10:08.03 | Hemebond | I can't figure this out. |
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| 10:12.47 | Hemebond | Looks like it's better to just download the binary from Nvidia instead of going the Debian route. |
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| 10:18.21 | BBerry65 | hello |
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| 10:19.11 | emss | Hemebond check wiki.debian.org for ati/nvidia driver installation information |
| 10:19.42 | Hemebond | emss: I was trying to follow http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 10:20.01 | emss | oh |
| 10:20.09 | emss | i was reading above sorry XD |
| 10:20.15 | Hemebond | I've down the module-assistant method before, on Linux Mint. Worked well. |
| 10:20.20 | Hemebond | That's fine. |
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| 10:23.56 | guardian | hi |
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| 10:24.03 | guardian | in installed nginx-light from squeeze-backports |
| 10:24.03 | Hemebond | All done :-) |
| 10:24.13 | Hemebond | Finally, native res. |
| 10:24.17 | guardian | v 1.1.18 is installed and v1.1.14 is available |
| 10:24.25 | guardian | however, aptitude doesn't offer 1.1.14 as an upgrade |
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| 10:24.52 | guardian | i followed http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ but didn't add a pinning since the title of the section says "for lenny" |
| 10:25.01 | guardian | should I have added a pinning for squeeze? |
| 10:25.12 | guardian | the end of the section says "This is not necessary for squeeze-backports" in bold |
| 10:25.53 | Lukemob | hello, I want to ask.. if I install a Xen virtualization on my server.. will I be able to run some apps on host? |
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| 10:33.49 | guardian | how can i list all packages i installed from backports? |
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| 10:35.40 | cthuluh | aptitude search '~i~Asqueeze-backports' |
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| 10:36.36 | cthuluh | hmmm, almost |
| 10:36.45 | guardian | i tried aptitude search '?narrow(~i,~Asqueeze-backports)' |
| 10:36.52 | guardian | but it gives an empty list |
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| 10:37.35 | cthuluh | ~i ~A should be ~i AND ~A, I don't get it |
| 10:37.35 | apt | You ~A should be ~i AND ~A, I don't get it? |
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| 10:39.24 | LinuxApprentice | hello |
| 10:39.36 | LinuxApprentice | what's the command for dpkg to reconfigure debian ? |
| 10:40.14 | LinuxApprentice | i have just installed debian and my screen is only rendered to a small portion of the screen. i didn't install X/DE |
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| 10:41.14 | guardian | cthuluh: doesn't aptitude search '~i~Asqueeze-backports' give installed packages for which a backports exists, eventhough the installed version doesn't come from backports? |
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| 10:44.36 | cthuluh | guardian: seems so |
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| 10:46.59 | audifahrer | Hi |
| 10:47.11 | somethinginteres | Diopter, somiaj: I wanted to thank both of you for your help earlier today. I kept having weird problems with my /etc/passwd. So I reinstalled but it was dead easy and quick this time thanks to your help. Cheers! :) |
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| 10:48.17 | audifahrer | do you know if there's a group specific to Debian XML installation as in this topic: http://debian-xml-sgml.alioth.debian.org/xml-policy/xml-registering-resources.html or is here correct place? |
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| 10:52.02 | guardian | cthuluh: for the record, aptitude search '?narrow(~i, ~Abackports)' works fine. it just happened the only package i installed from squeeze-backports was nginx-light and for some reason when doing aptitude versions nginx-light the column that tells from which repo it comes from was blank. i guess it's because the package was broken. i upgraded nginx-light from my old squeeze-backports 1.1.8 to the new squeeze-back |
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| 10:53.42 | audifahrer | the question is how to make libxml++ find a catalog without installing my library as deb in the system and registering catalog. Each time installing is no option while I develop my application and XML structure. |
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| 10:57.35 | ddidderr | my default locale is not set. ls sorts files beginning with lowercase chars before files beginning with uppercase chars. I remember it had something to do with the locale. I already tried update-locale command and tried to set the variable by hand, but behaviour of ls didn't change. |
| 10:57.54 | valdyn | !locale |
| 10:57.55 | dpkg | A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale |
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| 10:59.22 | devoid1 | My Debian 6.0 gnome-desktop has totally broke, anyone that knows why? Here is a picture: http://i.imgur.com/eqa6o.png |
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| 11:01.04 | ksuhku | devoid1, haha what did you do to it? |
| 11:01.33 | devoid1 | ksuhku: Honestly, I have no idea why it happened. I just rebooted my server and now it's like that. I might have installed some packages with dpkg that caused it. Anyway, how do I fix? |
| 11:02.07 | valdyn | devoid1: that screenshot seems to be showing gnome 3, but debian 6 has no gnome 3 |
| 11:02.49 | ksuhku | what packages? |
| 11:03.01 | devoid1 | valdyn: I see, I think a deb file that I installed has messed it all up. I really want to avoid a complete system reinstall |
| 11:03.17 | devoid1 | ksuhku: Hold on, while I find the names of them |
| 11:03.35 | valdyn | devoid1: how do you install a *whole* bunch of ( im talking like 100+) packages without noticing? |
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| 11:03.50 | ddidderr | thanks so far. If I'm trying "LC_ALL=en_US.utf8" and then type "locale" it shows "LC_ALL=" |
| 11:03.59 | Woet | devoid1: "rebooted my server"? |
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| 11:04.13 | devoid1 | valdyn: That is a good question, could it be a deb file that had so many packages in it? |
| 11:04.18 | valdyn | devoid1: no |
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| 11:04.51 | Woet | devoid1: on your screenshot is your server? |
| 11:04.58 | devoid1 | Woet: yes |
| 11:05.06 | Woet | devoid1: why on earth is there a desktop on your server?! |
| 11:05.22 | jubo2 | lol GUI server... how un-ecolo |
| 11:05.44 | devoid1 | If all you're going to do is flame me because of it, then I will ignore you. |
| 11:05.55 | Woet | no, honest question, why? |
| 11:05.56 | valdyn | devoid1: show us your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 11:06.07 | devoid1 | Woet: It's to run a package that requires gui |
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| 11:06.30 | jubo2 | I'm having problems on debian, KDE and Iceweasel ... top says 50% of cycles are free and there are several hundered MB of RAM and the youtube.com plays like a tic in tar |
| 11:06.31 | zane | can someone help me to get my console-resolution to 'fill' my entire laptop screen and not just a small portion of it? i don't have X installed btw |
| 11:06.36 | valdyn | theres plenty reasons to run a gui on a "server" |
| 11:06.55 | Woet | valdyn: no, not really. besides "i dont know ssh its so hard" |
| 11:08.17 | fasta | Why is qcad not packaged in squueze, but is in lenny and in wheezy? |
| 11:08.20 | valdyn | jubo2: show us your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 11:08.25 | fasta | squeeze* |
| 11:08.45 | devoid1 | valdyn: here -> http://pastie.org/private/6blskqamrx9ugg0dn2qiqa |
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| 11:09.25 | valdyn | devoid1: the last line points to sid. So you probably have more a sid system than a debian 6 system |
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| 11:09.41 | fasta | jubo2: apt-get install htop && htop |
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| 11:09.50 | valdyn | devoid1: lets see the output for "apt-cache policy libc6" |
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| 11:10.01 | fasta | jubo2: if one of the bars is at 100%, it means you don't have enough single-threaded speed to run Flash. |
| 11:10.11 | nsadmin | Woet, all you have to do now is add "let's go shopping" and you have a barbyism |
| 11:10.29 | Woet | nsadmin: let's go shopping |
| 11:10.30 | fasta | jubo2: Flash is a very bad piece of software on Linux. (On Windows it works great. ) |
| 11:10.54 | streuner_ | bullshit |
| 11:11.00 | streuner_ | (TM) |
| 11:11.05 | fasta | jubo2: you need about 5 times more CPU on Linux vs Windows. |
| 11:11.16 | streuner_ | flash the crap, in every case |
| 11:11.23 | streuner_ | is* |
| 11:11.37 | streuner_ | it doesnt work on OSX sometimes... |
| 11:11.39 | fasta | streuner_: it even works fast in a VM running inside Linux. |
| 11:11.50 | zane | anyone? |
| 11:11.54 | Woet | it works great on OS X |
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| 11:12.02 | fasta | streuner_: it really is just the Linux version; I have no idea how they managed to get it to rn that slow, but it does. |
| 11:12.04 | streuner_ | Woest, i said sometimes... |
| 11:12.06 | Woet | and you get a terminal with apt-get if you want to |
| 11:12.07 | Woet | awesomeness |
| 11:12.13 | Woet | streuner_: well, not in the 3 years I've used it. |
| 11:12.18 | devoid1 | valdyn: http://pastie.org/private/zaee1q1gsqzfw2rjdwu6g |
| 11:12.26 | nsadmin | Woet, ok... whew... now that that's over, ssh is easy once you get it |
| 11:12.44 | Woet | nsadmin: sure, which is why you shouldn't run a gui on a server |
| 11:12.54 | valdyn | devoid1: ok, you're defenitely running sid then, for whats important, downgrading will be hard |
| 11:12.56 | Woet | nsadmin: you should read some guides and documentation and within a few hours you're more familiar with ssh |
| 11:13.10 | Woet | nsadmin: which is my entire point :) |
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| 11:13.54 | devoid1 | valdyn: I see. I am not so good with packages and package managers, but wouldn't it just be to remove that line "sid" from my sources.list and downgrade? |
| 11:13.58 | nsadmin | I understand ssh and x well enough... but, not sure what's going on, who;s running a gui or would rather do that than ssh in? |
| 11:14.11 | valdyn | devoid1: yes, "just", but downgrading this is not easy |
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| 11:14.15 | valdyn | !downgrade |
| 11:14.15 | dpkg | [downgrade] Downgrading is not possible with apt-get/aptitude and no future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 11:14.28 | Woet | nsadmin: devoid1 is running gnome on his server, now installed gnome 3 for sid and everything is messed up. |
| 11:14.47 | nsadmin | ohhh.... and the server is sid |
| 11:14.57 | nsadmin | that's not the greatest thing in the world |
| 11:15.25 | Woet | it's the greatest thing in the world if you want a bloated unstable server |
| 11:15.28 | Woet | which is what we all want |
| 11:15.50 | devoid1 | valdyn: Could I get all the files for gnome-desktop manually, in squeeze repository, and dpkg -i them? |
| 11:16.08 | valdyn | devoid1: just read what dpkg said |
| 11:16.09 | nsadmin | weee alll wannnt to go to a yellow submarine... |
| 11:16.15 | riad_shourov | hello..where can i get debian wheezy with a lower kernel version? |
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| 11:16.37 | nsadmin | well let's see |
| 11:16.45 | streuner_ | riad_shourov: need a special kernel for a special driver? |
| 11:17.02 | nsadmin | btw, woet, sorry for misaddressing you |
| 11:17.02 | riad_shourov | streuner_: hmm :) |
| 11:17.24 | Woet | nsadmin: i don't mind |
| 11:17.27 | devoid1 | valdyn: Ok, I see. |
| 11:17.36 | streuner_ | riad_shourov: in order words, why do you need another kernel, other than the default one in wheezy? |
| 11:18.03 | nsadmin | cool |
| 11:18.10 | Woet | orders streuner_'s words |
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| 11:18.27 | streuner_ | Woet, hehe, true |
| 11:18.27 | riad_shourov | streuner_: my wimax internet modem do not work without some specific kernels |
| 11:18.27 | nsadmin | in word order? |
| 11:18.40 | streuner_ | s/order/other/ , of course |
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| 11:19.40 | nsadmin | devoid1, physical distancewise... is this server of yours... 3 inches from you? 4 feet? thousands of miles? |
| 11:19.45 | streuner_ | riad_shourov: try to install the stable kernel via dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.32* ? |
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| 11:20.05 | streuner_ | riad_shourov: or you make your own kernel |
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| 11:20.42 | devoid1 | valdyn: Is it possible to reinstall Debian 6.0 but don't touch my /home/ directory? |
| 11:20.44 | riad_shourov | streuner_: my modem does not work on 2.6.32 .. i've tried previously with debian stable |
| 11:21.00 | streuner_ | riad_shourov: which one do you need? |
| 11:21.14 | Woet | devoid1: yes. |
| 11:21.37 | devoid1 | Woet: I wasn't asking you. |
| 11:21.38 | riad_shourov | streuner_: 2.6.38-* or 3.0.0-* |
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| 11:21.58 | Woet | devoid1: you are asking the channel. if you prefer speaking to someone private, query them |
| 11:22.07 | lord_rob | what a rude person :) |
| 11:22.08 | streuner_ | riad_shourov: very bad, the 3.0.0 isnt available in the repos, IIRC |
| 11:22.09 | Iridos | err |
| 11:22.24 | streuner_ | maybe in a archive |
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| 11:23.10 | Iridos | riad_shourov, but then it's in mainline kernels? Seems quite strange hardware support should only be present in such a small range of kernels |
| 11:23.33 | Iridos | dpkg, tell riad_shourov about snapshots |
| 11:23.41 | streuner_ | riad_shourov: http://snapshot.debian.org/ |
| 11:24.15 | devoid1 | Woet: Notice the "valdyn:" |
| 11:24.34 | Woet | bye bye |
| 11:24.39 | Iridos | !next |
| 11:24.40 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 11:24.52 | Iridos | slightly prickly |
| 11:25.18 | Woet | lord_rob: just to stroke my ego, you were calling devoid1 rude right? |
| 11:25.43 | lord_rob | sure not you Woet |
| 11:25.44 | riad_shourov | streuner_: problem is..my internet provider does not give any driver software for linux... some people made a deb file to run that modem in ubuntu for those specific kernels |
| 11:25.50 | Woet | whoohoo |
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| 11:26.26 | lord_rob | first time I read that answer when you help someone |
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| 11:26.41 | Woet | probably cause i called him silly for running sid and gnome on his server |
| 11:26.57 | riad_shourov | streuner_: actually... i am new with debian... i've tested them only with VBox for some time.. but i want to switch to debian |
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| 11:28.41 | lord_rob | Woet: depends on the server, if it's a home server, sid can do it |
| 11:28.47 | Iridos | riad_shourov, well, try running it with that kernel... |
| 11:29.09 | Woet | lord_rob: possibly, but i wouldn't call something with sid and gnome a server :p |
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| 11:29.21 | shp | when i start a movie or a song from totem or vlc, it does not play, it is like if it was in pause at 00:00, and when on a video i click in the middle of the video, i have a picture but it's like if it was in pause too |
| 11:29.38 | Iridos | Woet, "an experiment"? |
| 11:29.47 | Woet | Iridos: that about sums it up |
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| 11:29.51 | riad_shourov | Iridos: so..should i install those kernel on debian stable? or in debian testing? |
| 11:30.02 | Woet | Iridos: "windows server" works too |
| 11:30.56 | lord_rob | well I'm using phpmyadmin, it's easier to administer my mysql server on localhost. once again, I'm the only user of it, and only my parents could hack it :D |
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| 11:33.09 | Iridos | riad_shourov, dunno, there's no guarantee it will work... used to be no problem to run pretty much any 2.6 kernel you wanted, but then, before squeeze there have been changes to udev that would place quite strict userland requirements on running a certain kernel and I think during/before the 2.6.x->3.0 jump something similar happened... best would be if you could compile the module for a debian-kernel |
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| 11:33.27 | Iridos | lord_rob, perhaps they have! |
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| 11:33.45 | lord_rob | hehe Iridos ;) |
| 11:33.56 | lord_rob | maybe who knows :) |
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| 11:35.23 | riad_shourov | Iridos: tht would be tough to compile...but, can i find a debian testing version with a specific kernel? |
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| 11:42.40 | ParkerR | Ahh much better http://i.minus.com/iKQpj0uBQ8Nbn.png |
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| 11:43.27 | Iridos | riad_shourov, no, there are no "testing versions", it's rolling. Packages get in and replace older packages constantly |
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| 11:45.24 | Tom01 | Is the onboard AMD HD 3000 graphics supported by Linux? |
| 11:45.43 | riad_shourov | Iridos: oh...ok then |
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| 11:46.37 | shp | i have some random bugs on totem, vlc etc... sometimes video and music don't play whereas few minutes before or some hours after it works again |
| 11:47.37 | Iridos | riad_shourov, only stable is released - usually after freezing (no packages with new features, just bugfixes) for about half a year (there's no time-limit for this either, it's released when all bugs that have been classified release-critical are gone) |
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| 11:49.23 | Iridos | shp, check if something is using/blocking the sound device when things don't play with fuser (might have to run fuser as root if there are other users besides you who could use the sound device) |
| 11:49.54 | Iridos | freezing testing* |
| 11:50.09 | riad_shourov | Iridos: debian squeeze is quite old...so how can someone update the kernel in squeeze?? |
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| 11:50.43 | Iridos | dpkg, tell riad_shourov about backports |
| 11:50.48 | Iridos | judd, kernels |
| 11:50.49 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.2.0-1-686-pae (3.2.6-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-1-686-pae (3.2.4-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.2.4-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-41); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 11:51.20 | shp | Iridos, like that: "fuser /dev/snd/*" ? |
| 11:52.44 | Iridos | shp, yes, about like that :) - if there's OSS compatibility devices (/dev/dsp*) don't forget those |
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| 11:53.32 | shp | ok thanks Iridos , and since totem blocks for videos too, is there an equivalent for videos ? |
| 11:54.00 | Iridos | the videos have sound |
| 11:54.01 | shp | because in fact, i have no sound problem in youtube etc... in websites |
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| 11:54.32 | Iridos | that may be because flash is hogging the sound device |
| 11:55.20 | Iridos | who shaves the barber? |
| 11:55.23 | shp | ok thx Iridos , i will try all of that when the bug will occur once more |
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| 11:55.45 | shp | <Iridos> who shaves the barber? // his wife |
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| 11:57.01 | Iridos | shp, no! In a small village, the barber shaves every man who doesn't shave himself! |
| 11:57.27 | Iridos | anyway, I was just alluding to you not seeing any problems with flash ever... |
| 11:59.02 | shp | but who said the barber is a man |
| 11:59.16 | Iridos | hehe |
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| 12:00.35 | riad_shourov | Iridos: problem is... i'll not have internet connection with debian squeeze..so i'll not be able to install backports with apt-get |
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| 12:01.55 | Iridos | well, but what will you want from backports anyway, I thought you mainly wanted to take a kernel from somewhere else |
| 12:02.05 | Iridos | and you won't find THAT in backports |
| 12:02.28 | bool | i am trying to connect from my local computer to a remote postfix-server, but I get connection timed out. i can however send email from eg my gmail account to the server. what could be wrong? |
| 12:02.46 | bool | i am using telnet btw |
| 12:02.52 | bool | telnet server 25 |
| 12:03.28 | Iridos | riad_shourov, but to answer the question... there's offline solutions... /msg dpkg apt-offline |
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| 12:06.05 | cantido | Is there anyway to get an ARM cross toolchain in unstable? the emdebian toolchains have been broken for ages now |
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| 12:07.27 | Iridos | cantido, that would be a question for #emdebian on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:07.37 | cantido | Iridos: thanks :) |
| 12:08.36 | Iridos | and bring some patience, not so busy there |
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| 12:09.43 | cantido | Iridos: its taking 9hours to compile a kernel at the moment, plently of time to burn while its doing that ;) |
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| 12:16.10 | Benkinooby | hi, how can i mount a folder of a remote computer i have ssh access to? |
| 12:16.41 | ParkerR | Benkinooby, http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html |
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| 12:16.56 | somethinginteres | First logon after install I am being told that the password I use to logon doesn't match my logon keyring and I should enter the logon-keyring password. It won't accept any of my passwords. Ideas? |
| 12:17.11 | ParkerR | Wait scratch that |
| 12:17.11 | Benkinooby | ParkerR, nice, thank you! i didn't know that command |
| 12:17.17 | Benkinooby | ok |
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| 12:17.26 | ParkerR | Not sure if that is the more up to date way |
| 12:17.55 | Benkinooby | hm, or maybe i use scp |
| 12:18.01 | Benkinooby | it's for just one file |
| 12:18.10 | Benkinooby | i was just wondering if there is a convenient way |
| 12:18.17 | ParkerR | Benkinooby, sudo apt-get install sshfs |
| 12:18.21 | Benkinooby | so that i don't have to use scp all the time |
| 12:18.27 | ParkerR | Then do that link |
| 12:18.30 | Benkinooby | ParkerR, ok, thank you |
| 12:21.14 | cantido | Benkinooby: rsync can run over ssh too if you just want to sync a directory or something |
| 12:21.14 | trebi | hi, I have Debian wheezy with XFCE and I can'g get nm-applet to work with wireless. after bootup it pop-ups with root password request, and even when I enter it, I still can't get network connection. I had also this problem in Sabayon, but it was solved by removing config file, which now doesn't work. Sabayon's issue thread: http://forum.sabayon.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=25565&p=142306#p142306 |
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| 12:22.53 | e-anima | what the hell i do : mysql --user=USERNAME --password=1234!prrrr -D database_oc2 < /home/www-data/free_reset.sql and it says: !prrrr event not found? |
| 12:23.05 | e-anima | eny ideas. i dont get it |
| 12:23.07 | Iridos | ParkerR, nuffin wrong with sshfs |
| 12:23.19 | Iridos | dpkg, tell Benkinooby about sshfs |
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| 12:23.44 | Benkinooby | cantido, Iridos thank you both for your interest... i am with sshfs happy |
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| 12:24.07 | ParkerR | Iridos, Naah. It was just that that tutorial mentioned compiling. Didnt mention its just in the repos |
| 12:24.10 | Iridos | Benkinooby, actually, one annoying thing, by default stale sshfs will make all programs trying to access it hang |
| 12:24.18 | ParkerR | Iridos, I corrected as to not confuse |
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| 12:24.50 | thewanderer1 | e-anima, ! is a special character for Bash. try something like '--password=1234 |
| 12:25.05 | thewanderer1 | err, '--password=1234!prrrr' |
| 12:25.06 | e-anima | hm but that is the password |
| 12:25.12 | e-anima | ah |
| 12:25.13 | e-anima | k |
| 12:25.15 | e-anima | thx one sec |
| 12:25.16 | thewanderer1 | (sorry, bad Enter key placement :/ ) |
| 12:25.34 | e-anima | on lenny that was working, on squeeze not, new shell dash i guess |
| 12:25.39 | Iridos | thewanderer1, ELARGEFINGER |
| 12:25.42 | Iridos | :D |
| 12:25.47 | thewanderer1 | Iridos, ECHICLET :[ |
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| 12:27.30 | mallxs_ | hi trying to run a down loaded appl. file tell's it is a "ELF 32-bit LSB executable" but it cant find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 but it is in /usr/lib/ but i'm on amd 64 can that be the problem ? |
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| 12:28.33 | Iridos | Benkinooby, there's a remedy for that, too - but at first I wasn't sure it would work, now I forgot what did the trick |
| 12:28.36 | thewanderer1 | mallxs_, install ia32-libs... also, be careful what "down loaded appl." you run :P |
| 12:28.41 | cantido | mallxs_: try installing the ia32 gtk libs package |
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| 12:30.32 | mallxs_ | thanks will try to install ia32 libs, didnt know i could mix that,.... its a bot for a game, have been running that software on win, .. just trying to escape one more appl on that platform |
| 12:31.12 | cantido | mallxs_: its not really mixing, 32bit apps cant use 64bit libraries |
| 12:31.19 | mallxs_ | the other last one is a good driver for my G110 keyboard (logitech) |
| 12:31.33 | thewanderer1 | driver from Windows under Linux, huh... |
| 12:31.50 | cantido | mallxs_: what does it have that doesnt work with HID? |
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| 12:32.30 | mallxs_ | idk i will google HID and try |
| 12:32.54 | cantido | well, plug it in |
| 12:32.58 | cantido | what doesnt work? |
| 12:33.37 | cantido | you shouldnt need drivers for keyboards etc unless it has some weird hotkeys or something |
| 12:33.43 | cantido | there are utils for that though |
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| 12:35.39 | mallxs_ | it has 4 banks of hotkeys and colorred lights unde the key's (only using 4 of the key's atm) |
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| 12:36.20 | cantido | I would be surprised if there wasnt already a libusb because tool to control those |
| 12:36.51 | Serious_Sam | Hi there! How can I see what packages were installed with sorting by installation data? |
| 12:37.12 | guardian | what should i use to backup mysql? is mysqldump the way to go or is there a better way? |
| 12:37.18 | Serious_Sam | I tried Synaptic, but how can I sort in it? |
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| 12:39.34 | valdyn | guardian: mysqldump is not a backup method, its just a way to dump your database into files |
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| 12:41.32 | notau | guardian: export via phpmyadmin could be easy |
| 12:41.39 | guardian | yeah well if i can restore the db from that, does it qualify as a backup? |
| 12:42.46 | Serious_Sam | Guys, how can I view a list of installed packages sorted by installation date? |
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| 12:45.51 | somethinginteres | can't get sound on my new debian install. speaker-test and aplay return nothing even in root terminal. |
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| 13:05.37 | Serious_Sam | Guys, how can I view a list of installed packages sorted by installation date? |
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| 13:09.59 | Keefe | Serious_Sam: try this: ls -lt /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |
| 13:10.37 | jelly-home | Serious_Sam: the installation date is not kept in the database, but you could take a look at the logs for dpkg, apt or aptitude (all under /var/log/) |
| 13:10.48 | ghostlines | I'm running a squid proxy and it works fine, but when I run nmap I'm not seeing the port it's listening on, only when I run netsat. Is this strange? |
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| 13:11.09 | Serious_Sam | Keefe: jelly-home: thanks a lot for answers, guys |
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| 13:20.34 | valdyn | ghostlines: no |
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| 13:23.23 | AthomIk | hello |
| 13:23.45 | AthomIk | how i can downgrad nvidia debian drivers, because now i cannot run evolution...... |
| 13:23.57 | TechDesk | :> |
| 13:24.00 | AthomIk | seem 295 nvidia drivers is not good for my system |
| 13:24.14 | jelly-home | ghostlines: nmap pokes a few well known ports by default, not all of them. Try telling it to scan the exact port your proxy is listening on |
| 13:24.22 | AthomIk | TechDesk: hello, young girl, are you fine this day :D |
| 13:24.39 | TechDesk | :D oh yeah fine, and you ? |
| 13:24.55 | AthomIk | TechDesk: yes, my taylor is rich |
| 13:25.02 | TechDesk | >< |
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| 13:26.48 | AthomIk | lol, only my vm windows can read mail...... |
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| 13:32.57 | jelly-home | AthomIk: which debian release are you using and how did you install the nvidia drivers? |
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| 13:35.32 | AthomIk | jelly-home: i use sid, and i cannot run evolution |
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| 13:36.58 | AthomIk | evolution[20690]: segfault at 10 ip 00007f0f3c41dc0f sp 00007f0f208ed508 error 6 in libnvidia-tls.so.295.20[7f0f3c41d000+3000] |
| 13:37.08 | AthomIk | ok ? |
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| 13:37.32 | AthomIk | whit 290 i can run evolution and read mail |
| 13:37.38 | zane | TWM is amaaaaaaaaaaaazing! |
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| 13:37.51 | zane | debian net iso is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing |
| 13:38.29 | jelly-home | !tell AthomIk about snapshot |
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| 13:40.09 | jelly-home | AthomIk: find the version that worked, there, install and hold it, file bugs |
| 13:40.34 | zane | jelly-home: do you use a WM? |
| 13:40.50 | ghostlines | jelly-home, oh yeah thanks a lot now nmap finds the port. I'm losing it ;) |
| 13:41.00 | AthomIk | jelly-home: well, ok |
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| 13:41.26 | mallxs_ | cantido: install ia32 gtk libs worked ok, its onlylooks like that ia32-gtk is looking in /usr/lib/gtk for it engine as it says its the wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 .. is that a bug in the ia32 or a compile error in the applicatiion ? |
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| 13:42.40 | jelly-home | zane: yes. It's hard to have a graphical interface on Linux without X and a wm. |
| 13:43.04 | zane | jelly-home: do you use a wm or a de ? |
| 13:43.26 | jelly-home | zane: why do you ask? |
| 13:43.35 | zane | just curious is all |
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| 13:46.51 | Keefe | i want to install wheezy from a netinst build, but not the latest. i want the whole system to be as it were in July 2011. i know about the snapshots repo, but i don't know how to start out like that |
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| 13:47.15 | Keefe | is there an archive of wheezy netinst builds? |
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| 13:49.24 | boudiccas | Keefe; it will be a security risk |
| 13:49.54 | Keefe | just because of bugfixes since? |
| 13:50.06 | zane | i've just installed from the netiso, bare-nothin basically. what do i need to install to get my sound working? i just installed alsa, no sound though |
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| 13:50.18 | Keefe | or because it wouldn't be official, so could be tainted? |
| 13:50.21 | boudiccas | that and new versions of program coming out |
| 13:50.41 | tremon | zane: depends on the sound card |
| 13:51.13 | zane | tremon: alsamixer has a 'cirrus logic' in it |
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| 13:52.08 | zane | intel ac'97 audio controller |
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| 13:52.23 | Keefe | i'm not concerned about bugfixes. more important to me is getting a system working with a particular older version of fglrx. i've spent alot of time trying things and failing. i'm guessing there's some incompatibility between older fglrx and newer other system packages |
| 13:52.45 | tremon | zane: cirrus? that sounds old... I was going to refer you to non-free firmware, but I doubt that will work. Any error messages in dmesg? |
| 13:53.33 | zane | tremon: would alsamixer show it if that's not what i had? |
| 13:53.48 | shingouz | zane: you will need the nofree firmware too. firmware-nonfree (or something in that style) |
| 13:53.52 | jelly-home | zane: how did you test the sound. |
| 13:54.13 | tremon | no, it only shows what hardware it can identify |
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| 13:54.51 | zane | jelly-home: i tried playing a file in cmus |
| 13:54.57 | tremon | shingouz: that's firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 13:55.07 | jelly-home | zane: what's a cmus? |
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| 13:55.18 | zane | jelly-home: a CLI music player |
| 13:55.22 | jelly-home | !tell zane about alsa checklist |
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| 13:55.48 | jelly-home | ,info cmus |
| 13:55.49 | judd | Package cmus (sound, optional) in squeeze/i386: lightweight ncurses audio player. Version: 2.3.3-2; Size: 164.4k; Installed: 476k; Homepage: http://cmus.sourceforge.net/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/cmus |
| 13:56.24 | zane | yeah cmus is freaking sweet |
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| 13:57.05 | zane | is pulseaudio required for sound? |
| 13:57.10 | jelly-home | no. |
| 13:57.17 | zane | i don't have it installed |
| 13:57.25 | jelly-home | zane: good. |
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| 13:59.19 | zane | i don't hear the sound as root |
| 14:00.08 | zane | the ac97 mod is loaded |
| 14:00.20 | zane | do i need to restart after 'apt-get install alsa' ? |
| 14:05.58 | AthomIk | how i can remove all debian nvidia drivers ? |
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| 14:08.23 | jelly-home | AthomIk: how did you install them? |
| 14:08.47 | zane | jelly-home: no sound..... |
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| 14:10.23 | somethinginteres | Can anyone help me.. my sound isn't working on fresh install and all signs point to the fact it should be |
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| 14:11.27 | OBOD | Hello |
| 14:11.32 | zane | jelly-home: sound was muted, MM in alsamixer. lol |
| 14:12.10 | OBOD | I would like to ask something, is it possible with Debian to get a custom(untraceable) hostname, or a hardware firewall is necessery? |
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| 14:13.31 | AthomIk | jelly-home: with apt or aptitude |
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| 14:14.09 | jelly-home | AthomIk: I mean, the exact command? You'd know what to remove, then |
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| 14:15.26 | jelly-home | AthomIk: I guess you could remove everything with "nvidia" in its name |
| 14:16.05 | AthomIk | jelly-home: apt-get remove --purge *nvidia* ? |
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| 14:17.05 | shingouz | AthomIk: be smart and do apt-get remove --simulate *nvidia* first...... ;) |
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| 14:17.49 | jelly-home | AthomIk: I don't know the syntax off the top of my head. You're a sid user, so you ought to be able to read the manuals. |
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| 14:18.20 | AthomIk | ok seem it's apt-get remove --purge nvidia* |
| 14:18.23 | AthomIk | thk |
| 14:18.25 | zane | jelly-home: i can hear the Noise file but when i try to play a music file i get an error? |
| 14:18.58 | shingouz | AthomIk: ... do the --simulate run before you go --purge... saves you a lot of trouble |
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| 14:19.14 | jelly-home | zane: what exact error? what exact command line? |
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| 14:19.49 | shp | hi |
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| 14:20.21 | zane | jelly-home: Error: opening audio device. Internal error , in cmus |
| 14:20.29 | shp | i try to apt-get install gtkpod : "libasound2 : Breaks: libasound2-plugins (< 1.0.24) but 1.0.23-1+b1 is to be installed E: Broken packages" => i try to install libasound2 => the same with other packages |
| 14:20.45 | shp | (i added wheezy in deb sources and upgraded) |
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| 14:21.04 | zane | jelly-home: mplayer works but cmus doesn't? |
| 14:21.07 | jelly-home | shp: you seem to be mixing debian releases. Not a good idea. |
| 14:21.28 | jelly-home | zane: I've never used cmus, can't help with that one |
| 14:21.29 | shp | :/ isn't there any solution to install the latest version of gtkpod? |
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| 14:21.52 | dvs | !tell shp about bpo |
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| 14:22.24 | shp | thx dvs |
| 14:22.31 | jelly-home | shp: either fully upgrade to wheezy first, or reinstall the stable release and try creating a backport. |
| 14:22.34 | dvs | np |
| 14:22.41 | jelly-home | there is no gtkpod in bpo. |
| 14:22.47 | jelly-home | ,versions gtkpod |
| 14:22.48 | judd | Package: gtkpod on i386 -- lenny: 0.99.12-3; squeeze: 0.99.14-3; sid: 2.1.1-1; wheezy: 2.1.1-1 |
| 14:23.09 | shp | jelly-home, how can i fully upgrade to wheezy? isn't it what i did by adding wheezy in my repositories sources then upgrading the packages? |
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| 14:23.41 | tremon | shp: you need to apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:23.44 | jelly-home | !tell shp about squeeze->wheezy |
| 14:23.55 | jelly-home | !tell shp about wheezy |
| 14:24.09 | somethinginteres | is there a terminal command to find the -possible- versions of an avaliable package before you install it? |
| 14:24.20 | misch | #debian, can u tell me how to figure out which driver i need to install for my notebook touchpad? |
| 14:24.39 | shp | hmm i saw there is debian sid = unstable, it's better for me no ? |
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| 14:24.47 | jelly-home | somethinginteres: "apt-cache policy packagename" will show all the versions available from currently configured sources |
| 14:24.59 | misch | somethinginteres apt-get search or aptitude search? |
| 14:25.14 | misch | aww, busted :D follow jelly-home |
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| 14:25.42 | s7r | how can I use aol on debian ? aol all in one software and dial to aol via cable dsl |
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| 14:25.49 | somethinginteres | jelly-home: thanks! |
| 14:26.17 | somethinginteres | misch: roger that |
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| 14:27.15 | misch | can someone tell me how to figure out which driver i need to install for my notebook touchpad? |
| 14:27.17 | shp | thx, i did apt-get dist-upgrade, just hope it will not jeopardize my OS |
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| 14:29.28 | misch | someone there who has a debian installation on a notebook? |
| 14:30.23 | jpinx | misch: lots of us do |
| 14:30.44 | somethinginteres | misch: this isn't in the right direction is it? http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad |
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| 14:31.21 | misch | dunno if i got synaptics, cant say if this driver will work |
| 14:31.48 | misch | a command which list all of my hardware could help me :S |
| 14:31.59 | somethinginteres | misch: I think that page details how to work out touchpad type |
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| 14:32.48 | misch | do u know a command which lists all installed hardware? thought hwinfo will list it, but hwinfo isnt a right command |
| 14:32.58 | misch | probably i need to install it first :S |
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| 14:33.13 | somethinginteres | misch: lshw lists hardware |
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| 14:34.04 | somethinginteres | misch: don't think it's installed by default though. Gotta do apt-get install lshw |
| 14:34.27 | s7r | anyone ? |
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| 14:34.33 | misch | couldnt find package lsh |
| 14:34.33 | s7r | i really need to use aol on linux debian |
| 14:34.37 | misch | couldnt find package lshw *sry |
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| 14:35.14 | jacobw | s7r: what kind of connection is it? |
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| 14:35.44 | s7r | jacobw: i don't know the kind you do on windows with AOL all in one software, broadband home connection where you connect via your internet connection to aol and you have aol IP address |
| 14:36.09 | somethinginteres | misch: really? hmm. I am on wheezy dunno about others but for me it's there. http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lshw&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
| 14:36.12 | jacobw | s7r: do you have an aol modem? |
| 14:36.17 | s7r | jacobw: no sir |
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| 14:36.20 | s7r | only internet connection |
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| 14:36.39 | dvs | misch: aptitude install lshw |
| 14:36.52 | jacobw | s7r: is it a cable connection or an adsl connection? |
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| 14:37.09 | s7r | jacobw: cable connection. connect to aol via the broadband connection i already have |
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| 14:37.20 | s7r | it works on windows .. it should work on debian too |
| 14:37.25 | s7r | i am just debian newbie and don't know how |
| 14:37.32 | misch | dvs it doesnt find the package :D it tells me "couldnt find any package whose name or description matches "lshw"" |
| 14:37.42 | jacobw | do you windows on the same machine? |
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| 14:37.59 | jacobw | +s have |
| 14:38.11 | s7r | no jacobw |
| 14:38.18 | s7r | now only debian |
| 14:38.29 | jelly-home | misch: do an "aptitude update" before. If it still fails, pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" |
| 14:38.36 | misch | but i see in my sources.list there is eery entry commented out with # |
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| 14:39.02 | jacobw | s7r: so what kind of connection do you have in to your machine? |
| 14:39.12 | jacobw | s7r: ethernet or dsl? |
| 14:39.35 | s7r | ethernet ... i have a internal ip 192.168 from a router which has direct fiber optik connection with PPPoE |
| 14:39.42 | s7r | router is on the lobby |
| 14:39.55 | jacobw | ok |
| 14:39.56 | s7r | the router has a public ip and i have nat |
| 14:39.59 | s7r | to that ip |
| 14:40.01 | jacobw | yes |
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| 14:40.30 | jacobw | have you installed gnome? |
| 14:40.47 | s7r | jacobw: lxde |
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| 14:41.36 | jacobw | the router is connected to aol fibre? |
| 14:41.40 | s7r | no |
| 14:41.50 | s7r | it has nothing to do with ao |
| 14:41.51 | s7r | aol |
| 14:41.52 | misch | jelly-home http://paste.debian.net/157650 |
| 14:42.11 | s7r | I have internet connection from another provider with no relation whatsoever to aol |
| 14:42.26 | jelly-home | misch: right. You don't have any real debian mirror in there. |
| 14:42.26 | jacobw | so you use vpn to aol? |
| 14:42.43 | jelly-home | !tell misch about squeeze sources.list |
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| 14:43.19 | Bartzy | Hi, |
| 14:43.22 | s7r | jacobw: i don't use anything to aol. i have internet i am not trying to get internet connection from aol i am only trying to make a 'home network' with aol as it was possible under windows with their all in one software. this will allow me to get AOL IP address so i can watch hulu and etc. |
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| 14:43.31 | jelly-home | misch: add those two deb... lines, do an update again, see if that helps |
| 14:43.39 | Bartzy | when using start-stop-daemon --chuid USER , does start-stop-daemon uses 'su'? /etc/pam.d/su will be honored ? |
| 14:43.39 | somethinginteres | misch: you're problem is that your sources.list only references the cdrom. See http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ for a helpful way to generate a sources.list file. |
| 14:44.15 | jelly-home | Bartzy: I think it does not use su. |
| 14:44.27 | Bartzy | jelly-home: So what does it use ? 'login'? what in /etc/pam.d? |
| 14:44.36 | Bartzy | How can I change the limits ? |
| 14:45.12 | jelly-home | Bartzy: nothing in pam.d. You can change the limits manually in your custom init script. |
| 14:45.35 | Bartzy | jelly-home: Even though it's before I run start-stop-daemon ? |
| 14:45.39 | misch | oh hell yea, jelly-home it works now :S |
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| 14:46.04 | jelly-home | Bartzy: ulimit shell builtin works on the current shell. Child processes then inherit the limits. |
| 14:46.22 | jelly-home | misch: why the :S face |
| 14:46.51 | Bartzy | jelly-home: But start-stop-daemon will start a process that will daemonize itself (fork) - that child process of the process that start-stop-daemon started - will inherit the ulimit too ? |
| 14:46.53 | misch | cuz me dumb^^ |
| 14:46.54 | jacobw | s7r: that sounds a vpn or possibly a http proxy, what is the aol software called? find out what it does in general terms and see if openvpn supports the same behaviour |
| 14:47.15 | jacobw | s7r: it may not be possibl |
| 14:47.17 | jelly-home | Bartzy: one way to find out |
| 14:47.48 | Bartzy | jelly-home: I can't really test if it's changed or not, cause I don't control the daemon... |
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| 14:48.49 | jelly-home | Bartzy: you can however call something ele insteda of the daemon and see if its limits are set up properly |
| 14:49.00 | jelly-home | something else* instead* |
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| 14:50.34 | Bartzy | jelly-home: I'll try. |
| 14:50.48 | Bartzy | but I need to build something that daemonize and stuff |
| 14:50.49 | jelly-home | misch: also, comment out the active cdrom line so dpkg doesn't ask for the cdrom to install stuff |
| 14:50.49 | Bartzy | :( |
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| 14:51.19 | jelly-home | Bartzy: yeah, like a shell script that runs "ulimit -a > file; sleep 60" |
| 14:51.52 | zane | jelly-home: there was plugin options you can set in cmus via commands. i got it working |
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| 14:52.08 | jelly-home | !win zane |
| 14:52.09 | dpkg | Congratulations, zane! You have won a one way ticket to Christmas Island! |
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| 14:52.51 | somethinginteres | jelly-home: Someone should tell dpkg that going to Christmas Island in the Australian context is not a good thing. :) |
| 14:53.19 | jelly-home | somethinginteres: dpkg knows that already. |
| 14:53.22 | DanDare | Hello. I installed chromium-browser in squeeze using apt. How to get flash installed for it? Should I just get google chrome or firefox instead ? |
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| 14:55.09 | somethinginteres | DanDare: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 14:55.28 | DanDare | somethinginteres, thank you |
| 14:56.30 | misch | jelly-home ok did commented this out |
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| 14:58.36 | misch | is there a quick guide somewhere which shows the neccessary steps to set up a whole notebook? |
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| 14:59.00 | misch | i am confused a little bit |
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| 15:01.22 | boudiccas | misch; google for it |
| 15:01.24 | somethinginteres | misch: netbooks tend to be very specific in their fixes and things you need to get certain hardware working unfortunately. b |
| 15:01.34 | somethinginteres | misch: what's your exact notebook? |
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| 15:02.05 | boudiccas | !google |
| 15:02.06 | dpkg | Google is a search engine owned by Google Inc. whose mission statement is to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." The largest search engine on the web, Google receives over 200 million queries each day through its various services. http://www.google.com/ See also <chromium>, <gmail>, <googledns>, <googleearth>, <gsoc>, <gtalk>. |
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| 15:02.22 | misch | somethinginteres toshiba satelite c660 2gm http://de.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/product/Satellite-C660-2GM/1116554/toshibaShop/false/#0 |
| 15:02.44 | somethinginteres | misch: first things first http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel#A.22laptop.22_task |
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| 15:03.07 | boudiccas | misch; what does '2gm' mean? |
| 15:03.47 | misch | its the name of the notebook, toshiba satellite c660 2gm, dont know what this means |
| 15:04.00 | boudiccas | ok |
| 15:04.29 | shp | when i do "apt-get dist-upgrade" => http://pastebin.com/7J0wHefE :((( |
| 15:05.14 | quup | shp: what does echo $PATH say? |
| 15:05.42 | nsadmin | shp, this requires priveleges, what user do you run this as? |
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| 15:06.07 | knubbze- | hi |
| 15:06.08 | somethinginteres | misch: so yeah, if you run in terminal "tasksel install laptop" that installs packages useful to laptops. |
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| 15:06.43 | somethinginteres | misch: making sure to apt-get install tasksel if it isn't there. |
| 15:06.44 | knubbze- | is there a way to introduce code that is to be executed pre- and post-apt operation? I'd specifically like to mount -o remount,exec /tmp pre- and mount -o remount,noexec /tmp post |
| 15:06.58 | somethinginteres | misch: after that, if you have issues ping back here |
| 15:06.58 | misch | well, this is a good was to start, ill write this down somewhere... |
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| 15:07.13 | misch | good way to start* |
| 15:07.16 | misch | typo |
| 15:07.44 | misch | and its done now somethinginteres |
| 15:08.20 | somethinginteres | misch: OK restart your notebook. See if things work better for you and log back on to IRC and let us know |
| 15:08.21 | misch | i successfully set up the wifi before, the only thing i stuck with is my touchpad and also the vga driver |
| 15:08.42 | misch | i am here on irc with my homepc :D |
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| 15:09.28 | somethinginteres | misch: no worries then. :) Should work better now with that installed. The touchpad for e.g. should now work |
| 15:09.37 | Xenguy | Hello #debian, I sorry to report I am in the middle of an online dist-upgrade from lenny->squeeze and I am stuck in an in-between state of unsatified dependencies... |
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| 15:10.05 | Xenguy | I keep getting the same errors regardless of what I try... |
| 15:10.20 | Xenguy | I have tried apt-get -f install but it errors out also |
| 15:10.43 | misch | somethinginteres well, it does not |
| 15:11.16 | Xenguy | The errors I'm getting are pastebin'd here: paste.debian.net/157610 |
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| 15:11.55 | Xenguy | Sorry, that's my 'sources.list' file |
| 15:12.04 | Iridos | misch, I learned it's actually kinda wise to select a laptop with linux in view... the last one I bought perhaps 5-7 years ago, has a SD card reader that was never ever recognized by any kernel. At first I thought it's just too new, but then I realized it's too rare :-/ |
| 15:12.29 | Iridos | and that wasn't even a netbook! |
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| 15:12.46 | jman | Hey guys, wondering if someone can help me with a newb shell script quoting problem: http://pastebin.com/yUjnCEaf |
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| 15:13.08 | misch | ye, unfortunately, but debian is still the linux distri with the most drivers i guess |
| 15:13.22 | Xenguy | The dist-upgrade errors I'm getting are pastebin'd here: paste.debian.net/157608 |
| 15:13.25 | misch | so ill stick with debian and try to fix this somehow |
| 15:13.35 | shp | <nsadmin> shp, this requires priveleges, what user do you run this as? // exactly thx sudo was not enough i did from root and it worked |
| 15:14.04 | somethinginteres | misch: go to terminal type "dmesg" |
| 15:14.25 | Iridos | misch, nearly all drivers are in the kernel, so supported hardware would only depend on that (custom-made offered modules or patches aside) |
| 15:14.38 | Xenguy | If anyone has any ideas on strategy at this point, I'd appreciate it |
| 15:14.52 | somethinginteres | misch: that shows messages from the kernel as your notebook was booting. Paste that to paste.debian.net have a read over it and I'll do the same. |
| 15:15.07 | Xenguy | For example, is it worth trying a 'rescue' with Squeeze install CD? |
| 15:15.22 | shp | apt-get dist-upgrade => new error http://pastebin.com/Bm0vcfNa |
| 15:15.28 | Xenguy | Should I try forcing an install of apt/aptitude? |
| 15:15.37 | Iridos | dpkg, tell Xenguy lenny->squeeze |
| 15:15.46 | Iridos | (bit late, but you can still compare with what you did) |
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| 15:16.21 | Iridos | Xenguy, did you do what is outlined there or...? |
| 15:16.24 | Xenguy | Iridos: I followed those instructions, and they worked fine on my laptop, but this is my desktop system I upgrading now, and I'm getting what look like serious errors |
| 15:16.24 | misch | somethinginteres my console dont show up the complete output ! i am on 1366*768, |
| 15:16.49 | misch | somethinginteres there is a command to paste the output of dmesg into a new file? |
| 15:16.52 | Xenguy | shp: Was that for me? |
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| 15:17.31 | Iridos | Xenguy, ops, it didn't send the factoid as I forgot the "about" - but as you know anyway what I'm talking about :) |
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| 15:17.49 | somethinginteres | misch: dmesg < dmesg-output.txt |
| 15:17.50 | shp | Xenguy, no |
| 15:18.02 | Xenguy | Iridos: Yes, I've learned to trust the bot's instructions |
| 15:18.14 | misch | where does it save the file then somethinginteres? i am at / |
| 15:18.18 | Xenguy | But I need to find a way forward now :-/ |
| 15:18.45 | nsadmin | is forward the direction you're facing? |
| 15:18.55 | somethinginteres | misch: it will save in the working dir |
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| 15:19.13 | Xenguy | heh, yes, but I cannot move apparently |
| 15:19.20 | somethinginteres | misch: unless you do dmesg < ~/dmesg-output.txt |
| 15:19.28 | somethinginteres | misch: that should save to your home dir |
| 15:19.42 | misch | somethinginteres it tells me: no such file or directory. |
| 15:20.05 | misch | i typed : dmesg < dmesg-output.txt |
| 15:20.21 | misch | :) |
| 15:20.31 | somethinginteres | misch: try dmesg < /home/[username]/dmesg-output.txt |
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| 15:20.33 | misch | you will not be very lucky i guess somethinginteres ^^ |
| 15:20.54 | somethinginteres | misch: perhaps not but it will provide useful information |
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| 15:21.07 | Xenguy | Anyhow if there are any dist-upgrade type gurus in the channel, I'd sure appreciate some pointers about how to get this upgrade back on track |
| 15:21.12 | misch | i guess ill need some more hours to read some stuff |
| 15:21.13 | Iridos | Xenguy, one of the possible reasons is listed below: held packages. Check if you have any pinning (/etc/apt/preferences) or any packages on hold (/msg dpkg hold - that's a bit inconsistent... there are two types of hold you can check one with dpkg --get-selections|grep hold dunno about the aptitude one) |
| 15:21.33 | Iridos | below == on the bottom of your pastebin |
| 15:21.52 | Xenguy | Iridos: Thanks for reminding me about that issue... |
| 15:22.03 | Xenguy | I meant to ask about it, hrm |
| 15:22.07 | somethinginteres | misch: nah, just scroll through to look for obvious references to trackpads or errors that stick out. Paste it to paste.debian.net and I can read it too. |
| 15:22.21 | misch | somethinginteres, well now it tells me that /home/misch/dmesg-output no such file or directory |
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| 15:22.42 | somethinginteres | misch: when you ran dmesg < dmesg-output.txt did it present an error? |
| 15:23.05 | misch | it tells me : no such file or directory |
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| 15:23.09 | Iridos | Xenguy, if that doesn't turn out anything, try adding lenny repositories back to your sources.list and see if apt-get finds a solution with the greater choice - from your output it refuses to install cups-client from squeeze |
| 15:23.13 | somethinginteres | misch: sorry mate. I got the cmd wrong |
| 15:23.15 | Iridos | but it's not clear why |
| 15:23.19 | misch | :D |
| 15:23.40 | Iridos | judd, versions cups-ppdc |
| 15:23.41 | judd | Package: cups-ppdc on i386 -- squeeze: 1.4.4-7+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1.4.4-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 1.5.0-13; sid: 1.5.2-5 |
| 15:23.51 | somethinginteres | misch: it should've been dmesg > /home/misch/dmesg-output.txt |
| 15:23.57 | Iridos | Xenguy, as it won't install that, you could try aptitude why-not cups-ppdc |
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| 15:24.13 | Xenguy | Iridos: I'm used to working with dpkg and apt-get (as opposed to aptitude), and it appears that aptitude may not be currently installed anyway |
| 15:24.33 | misch | yah that worked somethinginteres^^ |
| 15:25.15 | Xenguy | Iridos: If I were to change my sources.list back to lenny, I would then do what? e.g. apt-get date |
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| 15:25.21 | somethinginteres | misch: awesome |
| 15:25.22 | Xenguy | Iridos: and then? |
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| 15:25.32 | axx_ | hi |
| 15:25.36 | Xenguy | Iridos: er, apt-get update I meant |
| 15:25.44 | axx_ | can anyone install and run page-crunch from the squeeze repos? |
| 15:26.09 | axx_ | it complains that it "can't find package Tk" when all deps are satisfied |
| 15:26.13 | Iridos | Xenguy, not change back! have both squeeze + lenny sources in there and see if it finds a solution |
| 15:26.37 | misch | something interes well, this is the whole output http://paste.debian.net/157654 |
| 15:26.46 | misch | somethinginteres well, this is the whole output http://paste.debian.net/157654 |
| 15:27.16 | Xenguy | Iridos: hrm, so you mean keep the squeeze lines and *add* similar lenny lines also? |
| 15:27.42 | axx_ | tcl8.4 and tk8.4 are installed, so I don't see what page-crunch is complaining about |
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| 15:28.12 | misch | somethinginteres: this is a bit much output i guess.... what do you believe you will find there? |
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| 15:28.18 | Xenguy | Iridos: I just want to make sure I understand you clearly, as I've never heard of doing such a thing, and I don't want to make things worse |
| 15:28.48 | somethinginteres | misch: line 617 seems to confirm you have a Synaptics touchpad |
| 15:29.13 | somethinginteres | misch: sorry, 716-717 |
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| 15:29.49 | Iridos | judd, versions libavcodec52 |
| 15:29.50 | judd | Package: libavcodec52 on i386 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.6-3; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.6-3; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.11-0.1 |
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| 15:30.31 | misch | somethinginteres yes. and i also tried to follow that guide u sent me before http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad |
| 15:31.06 | somethinginteres | misch: yeah, ran into trouble with the guide? |
| 15:31.30 | Iridos | Xenguy, that can sometimes help to fulfill dependencies... and at this point what should it hurt |
| 15:32.29 | somethinginteres | misch: What do you see at System -> Preferences -> Mouse -> Touchpad. You may be able to configure there. The touchpad is definately being seen and registered with the system. We just need to configure it. |
| 15:32.30 | misch | somethinginteres yes. i currently stuck on the Xorg -configure |
| 15:32.32 | Xenguy | Iridos: OK, I'll keep that in mind, but if I do add lenny lines back to sources.list, should I do an 'apt-get update' or not? |
| 15:32.33 | Iridos | Xenguy, I think the problem came from your use of either dmm or backports packages |
| 15:32.46 | Iridos | yes, of course |
| 15:33.15 | misch | somethinginteres i thought i just need to install driver or firmware, but ill need to create a config file instead? wat a sec while i look |
| 15:33.21 | Xenguy | Iridos: but not 'apt-get upgrade' <-- do I understand you correctly? |
| 15:33.37 | misch | wait* |
| 15:33.40 | Iridos | apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ... just see if it helps to continue upgrading, you can undo if it doesn't |
| 15:34.36 | Xenguy | Iridos: Alright, thanks |
| 15:34.43 | somethinginteres | misch: nah, I don't think you need to install firmware etc. That's already working or so it appears to be. Just configuration at this point |
| 15:34.45 | Iridos | it would be much more useful, to find out what package(s) cause the mess... |
| 15:34.46 | misch | somethinginetes, omg i am sry mate ! u now allowd to shot me ! better guess not that i just had to "enable mouse clicks with touchpad" i had to enable |
| 15:35.13 | Iridos | Xenguy, if you don't want to run aptitude why-not... the hard way to find out what keeps the package back is: just follow dependencies |
| 15:35.30 | misch | screw me :D well thank you rly it works now :P |
| 15:35.34 | Xenguy | Iridos: Just to clarify, it was during the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' that the errors I get now were received |
| 15:35.50 | somethinginteres | misch: :) No worries mate. If it makes you feel better. I just installed debian and spent 2hrs debuging my sound card. It was there, everything worked but no audio. Turns out it was just muted. Almost flipped my lid. |
| 15:36.18 | somethinginteres | misch: glad it's working for you. |
| 15:36.25 | Iridos | Xenguy, yes, I thought you'd escalate... apt-get upgrade, then, if successful apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:37.20 | Xenguy | Iridos: I'd gladly give aptitude a try, but for example if I just run 'aptitude' on the command-line, I believe it reported 'command not found', so I'm not sure if it is actually installed |
| 15:37.40 | misch | somethinginteres, well, this makes me real happy with my notebook! i figured out two essentials things now (my wifi and my touchpad), now ill set up xfce and sometime later my vga |
| 15:37.47 | Iridos | Xenguy, with "follow the dependencies" I mean... just try to apt-get install cups-client=1.4.4-7+squeeze1 (and so on and see what fails) |
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| 15:38.44 | Xenguy | Iridos: OK, thanks again for your help. I'm going to take some time and investigate your first suggestion, and have a look for any 'held' packages etc. |
| 15:38.45 | Iridos | Xenguy, actually... I think I see at least one major reason: python: Depends: python-minimal (= 2.5.2-3) but 2.6.6-3+squeeze6 is installed |
| 15:39.02 | Iridos | Xenguy, looks like you pinned the python metapackage? |
| 15:39.09 | Iridos | judd, versions python |
| 15:39.10 | judd | Package: python on i386 -- lenny: 2.5.2-3; squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze6; sid: 2.7.2-10; wheezy: 2.7.2-10 |
| 15:39.12 | misch | somethinginteres its an intel onboard graphics card, i guess ill find some drivers! if ill not, perhaps,,,, my notebook runs on the recommended resolution so ill not care ... ill see |
| 15:39.39 | Iridos | Xenguy, "dpkg -l python" gives you 2.5.2-3 as a version? |
| 15:40.02 | Xenguy | Iridos: I don't use pinning generally... sec, I'll check that out |
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| 15:40.50 | Xenguy | Iridos: yes, dpkg reports 2.5.2-3 |
| 15:41.25 | Iridos | try apt-get install python=2.6.6-3+squeeze6 |
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| 15:42.16 | Xenguy | Iridos: OK, let me try that (bear with me, I am on the console with no gpm installed, just copy/pasting with screen :) |
| 15:42.17 | misch | somethinginteres, well this is awesome, i am able to scroll with my touchpad, somehow i am not able to scroll with my touchpad on win7 ... weird |
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| 15:44.16 | Xenguy | Iridos: That errors out with similar errors (do you want me to pastebin a portion of the errors?) |
| 15:45.22 | Iridos | Xenguy, yes - or try to follow the trail of errors until you come so one not caused by depends... |
| 15:45.36 | Iridos | it's a bit tedious, but works :) |
| 15:46.37 | Xenguy | Iridos: give me a sec, I'll just pastebin it so I have a record of it |
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| 15:50.00 | Xenguy | Iridos: Errors are pastebin'd here: http://paste.debian.net/157657 |
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| 15:51.19 | somethinginteres | misch: just one reason to love Linux over Windows :P |
| 15:51.56 | Iridos | argh... yeah, it's repeating all the other dependency problems now - one would think adding lenny repositories back in would help reduce the amount of messages |
| 15:52.00 | ToTheInternet | hi, i upped memory_limit in /etc/php5/cli/php.ini to 512MB but when i run my php script from command line it says: PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 262144 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 523800 bytes) in Unknown on line 0 Could not startup. |
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| 15:52.18 | misch | somethinginteres yea but, i installed xfce4 and now i can not enable mousclick with touchpad :/ so i switched back to gnome and ill stay with gnome i guess |
| 15:52.27 | ToTheInternet | does debian use another php config file? |
| 15:52.28 | misch | somethinginteres but its not possible |
| 15:52.54 | misch | somethinginteres why should it only work with gnome? |
| 15:53.15 | Iridos | Xenguy, actually, does apt-get -f install (or aptitude -f install) now _with_ lenny repositories as a place to choose from give you any better result? |
| 15:53.15 | somethinginteres | misch: that's odd. Might wanna ask for assistance at #Xfce pointing out that it works in GNOME to the guys over there. |
| 15:53.23 | ksuhku | misch, first man synaptics |
| 15:53.39 | ksuhku | and then use synclient to enable taps |
| 15:54.25 | misch | ksuhku, hm, ill just stay with gnome... it works here! but thnks |
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| 15:55.07 | Xenguy | Iridos: So if I go this route (adding lenny repos back into sources.list), I should then do 'apt-get update' first, and then run 'apt-get -f install', or ...? |
| 15:55.10 | Iridos | Xenguy, hehe, well, the python stuff changed - it's an interesting state of affairs - you have several packages still depending on the old python |
| 15:55.49 | Xenguy | Iridos: Would it help if I try to uninstall packages that depend on old python, or ...? |
| 15:55.53 | Iridos | Xenguy, yes... just take care the "solution" isn't to remove all problematic packages, as that woule involve python |
| 15:56.07 | somethinginteres | misch: It probably doesn't work in Xfce yet b/c it needs to be configured there just as in gnome |
| 15:56.34 | Iridos | Xenguy, not really, you'd try to upgrade them all to squeeze |
| 15:56.40 | Iridos | judd, versions python-apt |
| 15:56.41 | judd | Package: python-apt on i386 -- lenny: 0.7.7.1+nmu1; squeeze: 0.7.100.1+squeeze1; sid: 0.8.3+nmu1; wheezy: 0.8.3+nmu1; experimental: 0.8.4~exp1 |
| 15:56.42 | somethinginteres | misch: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/mouse |
| 15:57.09 | ksuhku | misch, it's really not too complicated but anything you want |
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| 15:58.33 | Xenguy | Iridos: One other question while I think of it: altho I don't believe I've done any pinning, I probably have installed a small number of backports. Do you think that could cause any of the problems I'm having? |
| 15:58.44 | Xenguy | gets more coffee... |
| 15:58.56 | Iridos | Xenguy, so if you say apt-get install -t squeeze python python-apt python-brlapi python-cairo python-eggtrayicon [...] you'd have removed a lot of the reasons... - but then next line python-gnome2: Depends: python-gconf (= 2.28.1-1) but it is not going to be installed |
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| 15:59.26 | Iridos | Xenguy, so next question (following the python dependencies) - why is python-gconf not going to be installed? |
| 15:59.50 | Iridos | Xenguy, at one point you'll hit a package that really _cannot_ be upgraded... that's the one you should remove :) |
| 16:00.44 | Iridos | Xenguy, yes - I said so above. Either backport or debian multimedia packages. Those are much less tested than the regular debian packages and an upgrade solution for them is much more likely to be missing. |
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| 16:01.48 | ben1066 | So quassel-core in debian stable is 0.6.3 which has a bug with CTCP so I wish to update it to the backports version, however, it is already installed |
| 16:01.50 | ben1066 | how would I do this? |
| 16:02.26 | somiaj | ben1066: backports are pinned lower that stable by default, you need to explicity say install this from backports with apt-get -t squeeze-backports install foo |
| 16:02.39 | ben1066 | ive already installed said package |
| 16:02.40 | jelly-home | ,versions quassel-core |
| 16:02.41 | judd | Package: quassel-core on i386 -- lenny-backports: 0.5.1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.6.3-2+squeeze2; sid: 0.7.3-1; wheezy: 0.7.3-1 |
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| 16:03.14 | jelly-home | ben1066: if there is no "backports version", you have to build it yourself |
| 16:03.17 | ben1066 | There is no backport D: |
| 16:03.28 | jelly-home | !tell ben1066 about ssb |
| 16:03.36 | jelly-home | ,checkbackport quassel-core |
| 16:03.41 | judd | Backporting package quassel-core in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libqtwebkit-dev, libindicate-qt-dev. |
| 16:03.48 | jelly-home | huh |
| 16:03.59 | jelly-home | might or might not have some issues there |
| 16:04.09 | Xenguy | Iridos: Regarding the multimedia packages: when I began the upgrade, I left the multimedia repo active in my sources.list, but I later commented it out when I started getting errors -- I'm assuming I should leave the multimedia stuff commented out for now |
| 16:04.24 | ben1066 | ill just deal with the old 0.6.3 version :P |
| 16:04.33 | jelly-home | who needs ctcp anyway |
| 16:04.45 | jelly-home | :> |
| 16:04.56 | ben1066 | Nono, aparently it causes a crash under some circumstances |
| 16:05.11 | somiaj | ben1066: is there a bugreport on it? |
| 16:05.38 | jelly-home | ben1066: can someone lese cause a crash of your client? That would constitute a security issue |
| 16:05.54 | ben1066 | somiaj: not that I know of, however, it's been fixed in quassel itself |
| 16:05.55 | Xenguy | Iridos: Does that make sense to you also? ^^^ |
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| 16:06.05 | ben1066 | "We strongly recommend updating your core or monolithic client to 0.7.3 because of an issue with CTCP handling that could lead to an unresponsive or crashing core!" |
| 16:06.18 | Iridos | Xenguy, you had it active in the sources.list you pasted and I thought about it.. it's hard to say... I think it makes sense to have it in there - else you might not be able to upgrade some of the packages only dmm has and if those depend on packages from regular lenny repos... |
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| 16:06.51 | somiaj | ben1066: it isn't uncommon for debian to backport fixes like that to the squeeze version. I'd make a bugreport |
| 16:07.03 | ben1066 | Alright |
| 16:07.21 | ben1066 | is aptitude reccomended over apt-get? |
| 16:07.21 | somiaj | ben1066: though you may want to check to see if debian has tried that allready, but I don't see any bugreports on it. |
| 16:07.41 | jelly-home | ben1066: for daily usage? Yes |
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| 16:08.27 | frikinz | Hi. Does anyone know how to print duplex on an hp printer (the printer does automatic duplex) from say gedit (I need to print a txt file) ? |
| 16:08.52 | Xenguy | Iridos: OK, I'll re-enable the dmm line then, altho I seem to recall that the lenny dmm repo no longer exists (i.e. I think squeeze is the oldest dmm repo offered now) |
| 16:08.59 | ompaul | frikinz: tell cups that it does duplex let it manage it iirc that will work |
| 16:09.26 | Iridos | Xenguy, if dmm is a problem, then that would be the packages around libavcodec* |
| 16:09.33 | Iridos | judd, versions libavcodec52 |
| 16:09.34 | judd | Package: libavcodec52 on i386 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.6-3; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.6-3; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.11-0.1 |
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| 16:09.58 | ratnick | crowded |
| 16:10.01 | Iridos | judd, versions libavcodec-extra-52 |
| 16:10.02 | judd | No package named 'libavcodec-extra-52' was found in i386. |
| 16:10.20 | Xenguy | Iridos: Interesting, no mention of lenny there in dmm |
| 16:10.31 | Iridos | Xenguy, it's a bit like a gordic knot... but the only sword to part it in one go would be a reinstall |
| 16:10.38 | jelly-home | Xenguy: lenny support has ended in Debian as well |
| 16:11.00 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I know, that's why I'm trying to upgrade to squeeze ;-) |
| 16:11.04 | Stefunel | Guys, what do I have to modify to get an init.d script from running before the networking is brought up? |
| 16:11.05 | DanDare | Hey I didnt know about judd, very neat |
| 16:11.08 | Iridos | (but I hope you see how one can unravel it by supplying a solution) |
| 16:11.19 | ratnick | you can still purchase cd and dvd copies w/ all pkgs |
| 16:11.51 | DanDare | Stefunel, you can install chkconfig and then do man chkconfig, I guess |
| 16:12.50 | Xenguy | Iridos: I *really* don't want to re-install, for many reasons. When you say "supplying a solution", you mean finding the package that really won't upgrade and uninstalling it? |
| 16:13.04 | misch | how do i hide icons from desktop? i tried to delete it but they cant |
| 16:13.09 | frikinz | ompaul: mmhh that was it. I did it with hp-systray (which I though drives a cups interface) . But using the webserver on port 731, did the same but now gedit shows it. Okay.. thx! |
| 16:13.45 | ben1066 | somiaj: sent |
| 16:13.53 | Stefunel | DanDare will give it a try, thanks |
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| 16:14.12 | misch | * but they cant be deleted somehow (sry missed some text" |
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| 16:15.26 | DanDare | Stefunel, update-rc.d is a better option for that I guess |
| 16:15.32 | ben1066 | not convinced sendmail worked, havent recieved a copy |
| 16:15.43 | somiaj | ben1066: takes just a bit |
| 16:15.53 | ben1066 | somiaj: ah alright |
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| 16:16.29 | Xenguy | Iridos: OK, I'm going to try some of your suggestions, are you going to be around for a bit? |
| 16:17.06 | DanDare | StefandeVries, I think this http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-manage-services-with-update-rc. is a good reference "Custom priorities" |
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| 16:17.38 | StefandeVries | DanDare, ? |
| 16:18.07 | Stefunel | StefandeVries that was for me :) |
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| 16:18.20 | DanDare | StefandeVries, im sorry, message was for Stefunel |
| 16:18.33 | misch | nvm, sry debian, a quick google searched helped me |
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| 16:20.01 | petn-randall | Hi, from http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/asterisk.html I see that the debian voip team is using SVN. If I check it out, there's only the ./debian/ dir, and no source. How's the proper way to fetch the source? |
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| 16:20.32 | Stefunel | DanDare if I have two services that should start on the same runlevel, everything the same, how is Debian figuring out the order? |
| 16:20.50 | DanDare | Stefunel, I have the impression you can use the update-rc.d to set priorities accordingly /etc/init.d/ifupdown script |
| 16:20.51 | petn-randall | I could obviously just "apt-get source" the sid version, but the SVN version of asterisk is newer. |
| 16:21.32 | DanDare | StefandeVries, I dont know. |
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| 16:22.24 | DanDare | StefandeVries, but you can tune this manually, using update-rc.d |
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| 16:23.44 | warriors8710 | ciaoooooooo |
| 16:23.48 | warriors8710 | !list |
| 16:23.48 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
| 16:24.05 | DanDare | via est vita ? |
| 16:24.33 | Stefunel | DanDare it seems they are started alphabetically if runlevel is the same |
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| 16:25.53 | Iridos | Xenguy, supplying a solution is what apt* says you should do... apt-get/aptitude try to find a solution of the dependency problem. You can _always_ supply your own solution by naming the exact packages and versions (or with -t squeeze the repo they should come from) |
| 16:28.16 | Iridos | Xenguy, to supply your own solution would look like this: apt-get install -t squeeze python python-apt python-brlapi python-cairo python-eggtrayicon [...] |
| 16:29.37 | DanDare | Stefunel, take a look: http://packages.debian.org/en/squeeze/bum |
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| 16:29.54 | warriors8710 | ciao |
| 16:30.04 | warriors8710 | !list |
| 16:30.04 | dpkg | warriors8710: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 16:30.22 | Xenguy | Iridos: Thanks, that is good to know |
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| 16:31.01 | Xenguy | Iridos: Also thanks for prepending my nick in your responses, as it makes it much easier to keep track of the conversation here at the console :-) |
| 16:31.25 | Iridos | not everytime, though, to keep you alert |
| 16:31.26 | Iridos | :P |
| 16:31.50 | Xenguy | Iridos: Believe me, I am nothing if not alert at the moment ;-) |
| 16:32.02 | DanDare | Stefunel, at least in here it doenst seem its being started by alphabetical order |
| 16:32.03 | Xenguy | Emergencies tend to do that ;P |
| 16:33.00 | DanDare | Stefunel, it seems that for Squeeze you need to set priority < S10 to have your script started before network setup |
| 16:34.03 | DanDare | Stefunel, or < S08. There are the two scripts ifupdown-clean (S08), and ifupdown (S10), that are related to network configuration |
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| 16:36.13 | misch | someone there who can put in this modified bash layout into his shell and tell me how to get rid of that smybol which is shown infront of the time? http://paste.debian.net/157663/ |
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| 16:38.19 | epsas | \/win 22 |
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| 16:39.03 | DanDare | Confirmatio: /etc/rc.local will be executed only after all init scripts are done. Thats right ? |
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| 16:39.46 | Stefunel | thanks DanDare |
| 16:39.47 | Stefunel | will try |
| 16:40.10 | misch | epsas, was this an answere to me? |
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| 16:41.49 | Iridos | misch, can't you? |
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| 16:43.05 | misch | iridos, i have no idea |
| 16:43.06 | DanDare | Stefunel, ok, np. I just tried "bum" in here. Its nice to setup the priorities for custom init scripts. It cant change settings on system init scripts though |
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| 16:43.51 | _ramo | hi |
| 16:44.19 | epsas | misch - no |
| 16:44.54 | _ramo | has anyone installed successfully capistrano on debian squeeze? |
| 16:45.24 | Iridos | misch, look at it... it's not hard - start looking where the ____ ends... \n is newline, the next is a color definition - and you can guess what the short for showing the time is or look it up in man bash (search for ^PROMPTING) |
| 16:46.12 | Iridos | but as time starts with one certain letter, day with another, guessing might be enough |
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| 16:47.31 | misch | i totally mess this one up! i had this line exactly as it is on debian 5 and i had not this symbol! |
| 16:48.06 | Iridos | what symbol? The time is bracketed like [17:44:28, Sun Feb 26] |
| 16:48.14 | Iridos | [ is the only "symbol" in front of the time |
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| 16:48.55 | Mohsen_Hassani | Why is the pronunciation of espeak different in squeeze and wheezy? |
| 16:49.15 | misch | for me its not! for me infront of the time there isnt this [ there is some chinese symbol for me |
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| 16:50.03 | tremon | misch: it's an unprintable character #U0002 |
| 16:51.09 | tremon | misch: it's because you are missing an escape before the \033 on that line |
| 16:51.13 | misch | tremon how could i fix this? it worked on debian 5 |
| 16:51.52 | misch | weird, i copied the bash from the shell into paste.debian.net and there it is shown correctly :D |
| 16:52.01 | Iridos | huh? I copied his to see the crazy prompt and it works fine - I thought he meant the [ |
| 16:52.21 | tremon | Iridos: I guess it depends on bash version or locale... |
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| 16:53.24 | misch | iridos i mean the [ |
| 16:53.26 | misch | :D |
| 16:53.46 | Iridos | no, you don't |
| 16:53.50 | Iridos | <misch> for me its not! for me infront of the time there isnt this [ there is some chinese symbol for me |
| 16:54.09 | Iridos | !confuse me |
| 16:54.10 | dpkg | No, how are your bacon tomorrow, iridos? Shirts of the People's Republic of Swaziland with extra ham. |
| 16:54.19 | misch | my date is in those [ ], but the first one "[" isnt shows as [ its shown as an unprintable character |
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| 16:55.16 | tremon | in case you missed it: tremon> misch: it's because you are missing an escape before the \033 on that line |
| 16:55.19 | misch | or in other words my date has to be in those [ ] but they arent :) |
| 16:55.33 | misch | how do i do an escape? |
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| 16:55.37 | tremon | \[ |
| 16:55.46 | misch | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.05 | Iridos | tremon, I still don't see how you get to #U0002 |
| 16:56.23 | tremon | Iridos: me neither, but that's what bash was displaying for me |
| 16:56.26 | Iridos | and PS1=' \033\[0;36m\][\t, \d]' yields ;36m[17:56:13, Sun Feb 26] for me |
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| 16:57.05 | Iridos | so I thought [ is fine, as the preceding character starts a color definition (I wondered about \] though) |
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| 16:57.16 | tremon | for me it yields a unicode-square instead of the ;36m |
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| 16:58.03 | Iridos | but I get ;36m with \033\[ and the correct output with \033[ |
| 16:58.42 | tremon | here's hoping this doesn't kill xchat: [17:47: ... |
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| 16:59.09 | tremon | well, it didn't render anything either... |
| 16:59.16 | chaser12 | If i need to do some fairly simple data manipulation and math from a txt file spit it back into a txt file.. anyone have a favorite language i should look in to using to do so? |
| 16:59.30 | Xenguy | Iridos: Just noticed that in /etc/apt/apt.conf I have one line: Apt::Install-Recommends 0; |
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| 17:00.05 | chaser12 | I had been using gdl (gnu data language) but feel there is probably a better way of doing so |
| 17:00.07 | Xenguy | Iridos: Wondering if I should comment out that line - what do you think? |
| 17:00.23 | tremon | chaser12: dangerous question. Perl, awk, sed -- depending on what kind of processing you need |
| 17:00.58 | chaser12 | haha, ok well perl was where I was leaning, so I may run with that…. perl and python kept coming up |
| 17:01.10 | Iridos | Xenguy, that shouldn't have created any problem, though... just says that recommends aren't installed... leave it, it will only be more packages without (although mine reads: APT::Install-Recommends "no"; ) |
| 17:01.16 | chaser12 | I just want to make sure if im going to learn the language, I choose one that will be helpful in the long run |
| 17:01.22 | chaser12 | thanks tremon |
| 17:01.40 | Xenguy | Iridos: K, tx |
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| 17:05.10 | DanDare | Can someone recommend me any file manager for Debian with search capabilities ? |
| 17:05.20 | DanDare | Search for files with wildcards etc |
| 17:05.57 | Iridos | tremon, wait, wouldn't that be PS1=' \[\033[0;36m\][\t]' |
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| 17:07.23 | Iridos | DanDare, sounds like bash with wildcards and find :) |
| 17:07.23 | tremon | Iridos: yes, that was what I had in mind... |
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| 17:07.53 | DanDare | Iridos, I mean graphical file manager, like thunar |
| 17:07.56 | Iridos | ok... thought so - your way of saying it didn't come across so clearly |
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| 17:08.08 | DanDare | Iridos, yeah, Im sorry |
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| 17:08.54 | Iridos | DanDare, I thought so... it's just that exactly those features are where the commandline rather has its strong points |
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| 17:09.09 | mute | i forced an amd64 kernel onto my current 32bit machine. shouldn't i see 64-bit address spaces in /proc/$$/maps ? |
| 17:09.16 | Xenguy | Iridos: FYI, I get no output returned for: dpkg --get-selections | grep -i hold |
| 17:09.27 | Marezz | Im confused, there is vesa driver, nv driver, nouveau and prop nvidia driver... which free driver is best? |
| 17:09.29 | mute | s/machine/userland/ |
| 17:09.41 | tremon | will try to be less terse |
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| 17:10.19 | Iridos | tremon, funny... for me the superfluous \] is just ignored |
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| 17:10.42 | DanDare | Iridos, I know it. Still, there arent any grahical managers with simple search functions ? |
| 17:11.00 | Iridos | dunno, I never use any |
| 17:11.09 | DanDare | ok |
| 17:11.19 | tremon | misch, if you're still looking for the answer, you need to make sure there is a \[ before every \033 -- and your second \033 is missing that |
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| 17:12.26 | koskoz | I think I may have done a mistake while resizing my partitions in command line. I've deleted sda1 (root partition) and sda2 (/home) to resize sda1 to a bigger size. So after deleted them with fdisk and writing the table partition I wanted to use resize2fs while having trasnforming the partition from ext3 to ext2, but when I want to do that I've got the following error: resize2fs: Bad magic |
| 17:12.27 | koskoz | number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda1 |
| 17:12.27 | koskoz | Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. |
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| 17:13.39 | tremon | koskoz: I hope you have a backup of the partition table |
| 17:13.43 | misch | tremon thx... got it now ^^ |
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| 17:14.09 | koskoz | tremo: I don't think so |
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| 17:15.10 | Guest55046 | ciap a tutti |
| 17:15.10 | tremon | koskoz: in the future, when deleting/recreating partitions, always operate in sector-mode (e.g. fdisk -u), do not rely on cylinder or block count. Too many ways for that to go wrong |
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| 17:15.32 | koskoz | tremo: ok, but what can I do now? |
| 17:15.35 | Guest55046 | ciao a tutti |
| 17:15.48 | tremon | koskoz: your best bet is something like testdisk (iirc) to scan the disk for partition headers |
| 17:16.14 | koskoz | tremo: what did I do wrong? |
| 17:16.46 | tremon | for sda1, you can probably take some guesses (sector 63, sector 512, sector 2097152) but sda2 will be very hard to find |
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| 17:17.19 | koskoz | tremon: I have to recreate the exact same old partitions? |
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| 17:17.48 | tremon | koskoz: in all likelihood, you did not use the same tool for recreating the partitions that was used to create them in the first place. Not all tools have the same opinion on where the first partition should start |
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| 17:18.13 | tremon | koskoz: yes, to be exact: you must recreate them with the exact same starting sector |
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| 17:18.35 | koskoz | well, I'm sur sda1 started at the block 1, like it is right now |
| 17:19.35 | tremon | koskoz: I'm sure it didn't |
| 17:19.48 | koskoz | tremon: fdisk says it is |
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| 17:20.40 | Xenguy | Iridos: FYI, Still getting the same errors with both lenny and squeeze repo lines included in sources.list |
| 17:20.56 | tremon | koskoz: and how many sectors are in each block? How many sectors/block did the previous tool assume? |
| 17:20.59 | koskoz | tremon: when I do mke2fs -n /dev/sda1 I've got a list of backuped superblocks |
| 17:21.07 | Iridos | Xenguy, feared so... but easy to try |
| 17:21.33 | Xenguy | Iridos: I'm going to switch back to squeeze-only |
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| 17:22.16 | tremon | koskoz: yes, but that's counting from the current starting block. If your tools can't find the superblock with the current partition layout, it follows that the superblock backup locations are not the same either |
| 17:22.48 | koskoz | tremon: then I'm fucked? |
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| 17:23.01 | Stefunel | DanDare no matter what options I supply to update-rc.d, my init script will always get a S12... |
| 17:23.04 | tremon | koskoz: testdisk |
| 17:23.54 | DanDare | Stefunel, weird. Can you post the command line youre using, someone in here might help in case of bad syntax |
| 17:23.58 | koskoz | tremon: what am I suppose to do with it? Do you have a tutorial or something? |
| 17:25.28 | Stefunel | I am removing it first with : update-rc.d -f openvswitch-switch remove |
| 17:25.40 | Marezz | does this mean Im using nouveau? Graphics: Card: nVidia G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] |
| 17:25.40 | Marezz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.40 | Marezz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.45 | Stefunel | and then update-rc.d openvswitch defaults S06 |
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| 17:26.14 | tremon | koskoz: I have only every used it once, and that was to recover files from an ext2 partition. Maybe others have more experience with it |
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| 17:27.19 | Elraraniel | Is there a debian package for Ruby Enterprise Edition? Or do I need to keep that up-to-date manually? |
| 17:27.23 | Stefunel | the problem is, right now it is S12, befor networking and everything but it always starts after mountnfs and I don't get why |
| 17:27.31 | Iridos | tremon, thank god not! :) |
| 17:27.41 | misch | how u would rate my debian desktop from 1 to 10 ? http://www10.pic-upload.de/26.02.12/aqcmtm4w4rhr.png :) |
| 17:27.59 | Iridos | I'd rate it /msg dpkg polls |
| 17:28.23 | jelly-home | misch: from 1 to 10, it's too small! |
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| 17:29.02 | jelly-home | can't live with less than 800 pixels of vertical space |
| 17:29.17 | tremon | koskoz: maybe http://www.brzitwa.de/mb/gpart/index.html will help? Testdisk is more versatile, but gpart is aimed specifically at partitions |
| 17:29.18 | misch | its the work of 2 minutes ! so, 1to10 could be too much :D |
| 17:29.43 | ben1066 | I tried to submit a bug report |
| 17:29.50 | ben1066 | however mailq lists it as frozen |
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| 17:30.40 | koskoz | tremon: I can't use gparted, but I can use parted |
| 17:30.52 | koskoz | tremon: in the same time I'm doing this how to: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step |
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| 17:33.00 | jelly-home | koskoz: "gpart" is not the same thing as "gparted" |
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| 17:33.50 | koskoz | jelly-home: yeah ok |
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| 17:34.14 | koskoz | but gpart is aimed for the partition table, which means I'll still have to recreate the right partitions right? |
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| 17:37.21 | Bastian_B | Hi, what is the default ftp server installed on debian6 please? I wasn't able to find it out. |
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| 17:37.52 | Xenguy | Iridos: re: unmet dependencies, the first line is: aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg4.10 |
| 17:37.57 | koskoz | tremon: there is no way I can access datas in sda1? |
| 17:38.31 | Xenguy | Iridos: I'm thinking that it would be good to make sure I have the squeeze versions of apt, aptitude, and dpkg... |
| 17:39.00 | Iridos | Bastian_B, none? No wonder you couldn't find out |
| 17:39.06 | Xenguy | Iridos: So maybe I should try apt-get -t squeeze dpkg apt aptitude |
| 17:39.07 | Xenguy | ? |
| 17:39.24 | tremon | koskoz: not if the superblock can't be found |
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| 17:39.58 | Xenguy | Bastian_B: I don't know if there is a 'default' FTP server, but 'vsftpd' is a decent one |
| 17:40.00 | Bastian_B | Iridos: I am not sure, because I get a 'conrefused' error when I try to connect via ftp on port 21 |
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| 17:40.10 | Iridos | Xenguy, you cannot install/upgrade anything before you run an apt-get/aptitude command that solves the current dependency problems |
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| 17:40.33 | Iridos | Bastian_B, yes... means nobody's listening |
| 17:40.40 | koskoz | it smells like a reinstallation... |
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| 17:40.55 | Xenguy | Iridos: OK, well the errors mention aptitude in the first line, yes? |
| 17:41.07 | tremon | if you have no data to rescue, that will certainly be easier |
| 17:41.21 | Iridos | I just closed the pastebin :) |
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| 17:41.56 | DebrisRat | hi!! |
| 17:41.57 | Xenguy | Iridos: re: unmet dependencies, the first line is: aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg4.10 |
| 17:42.06 | killertux | so I am running debian mips wheezy and apt-get just does not like working with /etc/apt/sources.list with more than one line... is this bug so user error? |
| 17:42.15 | Bastian_B | Iridos: Allright ! thanks for your help and for your advice Xenguy too |
| 17:42.18 | DebrisRat | Sorry can i ask a question ? |
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| 17:42.32 | Xenguy | Bastian_B: np |
| 17:42.33 | Iridos | DebrisRat, you just did |
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| 17:44.02 | killertux | same line works if it's the first line but any lines after that "E: Type 'dep-src' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 17:44.18 | Iridos | Xenguy, right... that's one where it doesn't say why it has problems, though |
| 17:44.23 | Iridos | judd, versions libapt-pkg4.10 |
| 17:44.25 | judd | No package named 'libapt-pkg4.10' was found in i386. |
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| 17:44.54 | Iridos | Xenguy, duh... where do you get an aptitude from that depends on libapt-pkg4.10 |
| 17:44.54 | jelly-home | judd: whatprovides libapt-pkg4.10 |
| 17:44.56 | judd | Package libapt-pkg4.10 in squeeze/i386 is provided by: apt. |
| 17:45.02 | Iridos | oh, ok |
| 17:45.05 | Iridos | fairysnuff |
| 17:45.06 | tremon | killertux: that's user error, I think. Try deb-src |
| 17:45.25 | Xenguy | Iridos: Say what? |
| 17:45.29 | killertux | opps |
| 17:45.41 | _ramo | how can i completely uninstall the ruby package from my debian squeeze? apt-get --purge uninstall ruby1.9 is removing something, but i still see the path /var/lib/gems/1.9.1/.... |
| 17:45.41 | jelly-home | Iridos: the API (or is at ABI) virtual package name changes every now and them |
| 17:46.08 | Xenguy | Iridos: I'm just reporting the first line of error output... |
| 17:46.14 | Iridos | "fair enough"--> fairysnuff |
| 17:46.31 | Xenguy | Iridos: Does it look wrong to you or something? |
| 17:46.40 | sidney_ | can nvidia be purged from a system? |
| 17:46.46 | Iridos | not more than the rest |
| 17:47.01 | tremon | _ramo: dpkg -S /var/lib/gems/1.9.1/ |
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| 17:47.16 | Xenguy | Iridos: Just saw your judd queries... |
| 17:47.18 | Stefunel | DanDare LOL...this is incredible...I renamed the script to aXXX and now it starts firsh...LOL |
| 17:47.27 | _ramo | tremon: what is this doing? |
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| 17:47.45 | Xenguy | Iridos: Is there a problem with my apt then, or ...? |
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| 17:49.11 | tremon | _ramo: man dpkg will tell you it's a search command |
| 17:49.30 | tremon | _ramo: it will list which packages own files under that directory |
| 17:50.09 | _ramo | thank you |
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| 17:50.27 | debian_fanfanfan | i tried to aptitude-update, but I get E:Release file expired, ignoring http.......... message, where do I get the latest update source list |
| 17:50.35 | Xenguy | Iridos: hrm, apt conflicts with python-apt apparently |
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| 17:50.56 | Xenguy | Iridos: (just tried: apt-get install -t squeeze apt ) |
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| 17:52.19 | zykotick9 | debian_fanfanfan: (just curious) do you happen to be using an apt-cacher-ng proxy? |
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| 17:52.43 | debian_fanfanfan | zykotick9: i don't |
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| 17:53.43 | zykotick9 | debian_fanfanfan: k, i was just curious - i had the same issue a while back... ended up changing mirrors several times to get it resolved (apt-cacher-ng required an additional step) |
| 17:54.22 | debian_fanfanfan | zykotick9: Does installing apt-cacher-ng solve the problem? |
| 17:54.35 | zykotick9 | debian_fanfanfan: no - unrelated (in a way) |
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| 17:55.08 | zykotick9 | debian_fanfanfan: if i where you, i'd just try changing you mirror(s) then re-try updating |
| 17:55.09 | debian_fanfanfan | zykotick9: I see, what did you do to resolve the issue? |
| 17:55.42 | koskoz | wow guys, I'm really lost, I can't lost the data on the server but I don't know how to recover from the new partitionning :/ |
| 17:55.50 | koskoz | can I recover the old partition table? |
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| 17:56.05 | debian_fanfanfan | zykotick9: May I ask where do I get the update mirror(s) |
| 17:56.21 | debian_fanfanfan | zykotick9: new mirror(s) |
| 17:56.22 | zykotick9 | debian_fanfanfan: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:56.38 | zykotick9 | debian_fanfanfan: for a list of available mirror you mean? |
| 17:56.44 | Iridos | Xenguy, you have to provide a complete solution, naming all packages that are to be upgraded... - for each you specify the error message should disappear... and you'll finally hit a package that really cannot be upgraded and blocks everything else |
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| 17:56.56 | debian_fanfanfan | zykotick9: yes |
| 17:56.57 | zykotick9 | www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 17:58.03 | debian_fanfanfan | zykotick9: ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ <---something like this? |
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| 17:58.49 | koskoz | testdisk analyze: http://pastebin.com/ZNBTcpsb |
| 17:59.04 | zykotick9 | debian_fanfanfan: canadian mirrors have been having some issues! i'm in canada too. but ya. |
| 17:59.48 | zykotick9 | debian_fanfanfan: i'm currently using ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ so it should work |
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| 18:00.34 | debian_fanfanfan | zykotick9: cool, that does resolve the issue. thank you |
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| 18:01.52 | debian_fanfanfan | zykotick9: May I ask you another question |
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| 18:02.42 | zykotick9 | debian_fanfanfan: probably best to just ask the channel ;) but shoot. |
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| 18:04.01 | skorpio1963 | ciao a tutti |
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| 18:04.18 | skorpio1963 | !list |
| 18:04.19 | dpkg | skorpio1963: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 18:04.33 | gnugr | !it |
| 18:04.34 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:04.38 | debian_fanfanfan | I just apt-get install build-essential. After installation, I tried man gcc, and I got "Man 7 undocumented". I remember there is a package which includes all doc for gcc, g++, everything |
| 18:05.08 | TheWarden | Hi, I'm trying install firmware-iwlwifi and wireless-tools for according to http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy. However I can't find the firmware-iwlwifi package |
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| 18:07.07 | TheWarden | aptitude says no candidate version found for firmware-iwlwifi |
| 18:07.25 | gnugr | TheWarden: you can get firmware here: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/ |
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| 18:08.07 | TheWarden | gnugr: Oh really, so the package is no longer available like the wiki states? |
| 18:08.40 | Xenguy | Iridos: Thanks, gotcha, that is very clear. I'm now working along those lines. |
| 18:09.07 | TheWarden | gnugr: mmm which one do I get I have Debian Squeeze installed 64-bit |
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| 18:09.39 | jelly-home | ,versions firmware-iwlwifi |
| 18:09.40 | judd | Package: firmware-iwlwifi on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny2; lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.35~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 0.35; wheezy/non-free: 0.35 |
| 18:09.54 | jelly-home | !tell TheWarden about non-free sources |
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| 18:10.35 | jelly-home | no need to download things manually |
| 18:10.38 | TheWarden | also I need to locate wireless-tools as well as it appears not to be available or not found with the sources I have set. |
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| 18:11.06 | TheWarden | jelly-home: I've tried doing this http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy but doesn't work. The packages are still not found. |
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| 18:11.41 | zykotick9 | TheWarden: do you have non-free enabled in your sources.list? |
| 18:12.21 | TheWarden | zykotick9: Well going by what that page states I added the new source to my source.list file and did an update. So if that's what you mean yes. |
| 18:12.23 | jelly-home | TheWarden: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
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| 18:13.03 | Skrzyp | H-h-hi... |
| 18:13.08 | Skrzyp | Lot of guys. |
| 18:13.43 | Skrzyp | But, I have truly-old laptop with wireless PCIMCIA card. Can I netinstall Debian on it? |
| 18:13.44 | TheWarden | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/zj1c1fYx |
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| 18:15.00 | jelly-home | TechDesk: append " contrib non-free" to at least the lines 7, 8, 10, 11 |
| 18:15.27 | TechDesk | ? |
| 18:15.49 | zykotick9 | jelly-home: notice that main is duplicated, line 8 & 16 (can & us mirrors) |
| 18:16.20 | jelly-home | oh, I missed line 16 completely |
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| 18:16.52 | jpinx | Skrzyp: if you can get the pcmcia wireless card working -yes. I did that on a toshiba T8000 a while ago |
| 18:16.53 | jelly-home | having multiple mirrors is not a problem |
| 18:17.24 | jpinx | Skrzyp: though I'd recommend a cable connection for the actual instal |
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| 18:18.30 | jelly-home | TechDesk: add those two words to the lines which end merely with "main" |
| 18:18.31 | zykotick9 | Skrzyp: be aware that squeeze netinstall only supports Open or WEP wifi |
| 18:19.07 | TechDesk | why me ? |
| 18:19.22 | jelly-home | oh, not you, sorry |
| 18:19.28 | TechDesk | ^^ |
| 18:19.34 | jelly-home | TheWarden: append " contrib non-free" to at least the lines 7, 8, 10, 11 |
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| 18:19.50 | jelly-home | yall look the same to me! |
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| 18:20.48 | jelly-home | TheWarden: then redo the update. You can verify whether a package is available, and which version, using "apt-cache policy packagename" |
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| 18:23.12 | TheWarden | jelly-home: okay thanks, I'll give that a try. Should I remove this line? E: Release file expired, ignoring http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/Release (invalid since 16d 16h 3min 12s) |
| 18:23.40 | jelly-home | TheWarden: that mirror seems to be out of date. |
| 18:23.46 | zykotick9 | TheWarden: i've had lots of issues with nrc.ca recently |
| 18:24.20 | zykotick9 | TheWarden: i'd recommend you change that to the ftp.ca.debian.org as well |
| 18:24.20 | TheWarden | jelly-home: Oh well I think I added that for iceweasel |
| 18:24.32 | TheWarden | zykotick9: okay |
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| 18:25.26 | TheWarden | so change all nrc.ca references to the ftp.ca.debian.org? |
| 18:25.47 | TheWarden | that would be 4 lines to change then |
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| 18:25.54 | zykotick9 | TheWarden: might be a good idea - i'd recommend you just comment them out, then add new lines for the ftp.ca.debian stuff |
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| 18:26.28 | mariok | greets the channel |
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| 18:27.16 | mariok | I got stuck with deboostrap with an wired error message |
| 18:27.26 | mariok | E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-i386/Packages |
| 18:27.44 | mariok | I tried to google a bit but did'nt find a solution. |
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| 18:29.28 | mariok | I'm using my own mirror (local at my site) and I can see that only the Release and Release.gpg files are downloaded by debootstrap. |
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| 18:33.44 | mariok | the script works with on official mirror on the internet so I think it's not worth opening a bug at bugs.debian.org |
| 18:34.02 | mariok | the mirror I use is created by apt-move |
| 18:34.08 | TheWarden | argh I got both packages installed firmware-iwlwifi and wireless-tools and I do a iwconfig and there is no wireless extensions. :( |
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| 18:35.28 | TheWarden | dang all I wanted was to get wireless working mmmm |
| 18:36.01 | rtmex | Hello all, how can I configure console tu a font with charmap UTF-8 and setcode cp437 ? I think the Terminus font does not support cp437 |
| 18:36.33 | rtmex | I don't have X intslalled, just the console |
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| 18:36.57 | TheWarden | I shouldn't have to but maybe a reboot is necessary |
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| 18:38.37 | Ojol | Hi, how can i update a program that was compiled from source? Do I just configure && make && make install the newer source and it'll patch the existing version? |
| 18:38.38 | TheWarden | I'm out of ideas of what to do to get this working. |
| 18:38.51 | TheWarden | gtg for now |
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| 18:43.37 | Xenguy | Iridos: If I want to do 'apt-get install -t squeeze 1 2 3 4 5 |
| 18:44.24 | Xenguy | Iridos: etc., will the '-t squeeze' apply to all the specified packages that follow, or do I have to keep repeating the '-t squeeze' for each package? |
| 18:44.39 | Xenguy | (I'm assuming it is the former, but I just want to make sure) |
| 18:44.55 | elise-- | Apt-get install -my footinyourass |
| 18:45.19 | Xenguy | elise--: very helpful indeed |
| 18:45.38 | elise-- | You're welcome. |
| 18:45.48 | elise-- | :-P |
| 18:45.50 | Xenguy | I wish I could say the same. |
| 18:46.15 | gnugr | Xenguy: what you want to install? |
| 18:46.16 | elise-- | You seem capable. |
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| 18:46.37 | Diopter | thewanderer1: Still here? |
| 18:47.08 | Xenguy | gnugr: I have some large dependency problems that have cropped up during a dist-upgrade |
| 18:47.31 | Xenguy | gnugr: Do you know the answer to my question above? |
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| 18:48.18 | gnugr | Xenguy: try "dpkg --configure -a" then "aptitude -f install" |
| 18:48.48 | Xenguy | gnugr: hrm, that rings a bell from a long time ago -- thanks for the suggestion |
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| 18:51.05 | Xenguy | gnugr: (Stuff is happening) |
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| 18:52.39 | Iridos | Xenguy, yes, it should - but sometimes the selection is ignored (I mainly noted that on apt-get source xxx -t squeeze) - then giving the exact version with packge=versiono will still work |
| 18:53.32 | Xenguy | gnugr: Looks like some work was done, and also lots of errors (predictably) were received... |
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| 18:55.05 | Xenguy | gnugr: Hrm: "bash: aptitude: command not found" |
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| 18:55.12 | Xenguy | gnugr: Looks like aptitude depends on apt |
| 18:55.23 | gele | is it possible to encrypt an lvm volume group? not a physical volume, not a logical volume, but an actual volume group? |
| 18:55.23 | Xenguy | gnugr: Or a package provided by apt |
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| 18:55.38 | Xenguy | Iridos: OK, tx |
| 18:56.03 | gele | i'd like to set up the system so i can add new physical volumes to the group when i feel like it and have all data encrypted automatically. |
| 18:56.16 | Xenguy | gnugr: apt-get -f install still gives tons of errors |
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| 18:57.41 | Diopter | gele: Cool idea. Might be possible, not sure. |
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| 18:58.44 | gele | i suppose i could use a two-layered approach - have one "bottom" group with a single logical volume, which i encrypt, and then have a "top" group in that with all my logical volumes. |
| 18:58.55 | gele | but that seems a bit unneccessary if there is a way to do it directly. |
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| 19:00.39 | gele | or is there a simpler way than lvm when you just want to group many devices together as one virtual device? |
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| 19:01.55 | Diopter | lvm is about the simplest from the software side |
| 19:02.06 | gele | yeah, it's software i need. |
| 19:02.11 | Diopter | SATA RAID or JBoD are pretty easy, but need hardware support |
| 19:02.19 | Diopter | though I would strongly recommend against SATA RAID ever :( |
| 19:02.29 | Diopter | Performs like flaming ass, buggy as hell |
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| 19:02.52 | gele | i suppose another way would be to hack the initramfs to use the same encryption password for all encrypted disks. |
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| 19:03.39 | gele | as long as i don't have to enter a password for every disk i'm fine with that. |
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| 19:04.26 | Xenguy | gnugr: FWIW here are the errors after dpkg --configure -a : |
| 19:04.28 | fasta | How can I compare two file systems for differences in files? |
| 19:04.35 | Xenguy | http://paste.debian.net/157683 |
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| 19:04.46 | fasta | I only care about which files are newer differences and added/removed files. |
| 19:05.11 | gele | fasta: diff should be able to do it. |
| 19:05.34 | fasta | gele: also for a file system with millions of files on it? |
| 19:05.43 | Diopter | fasta: You can do that in a number of ways. There's not a super clean single command that's going to do it for you, but |
| 19:05.44 | fasta | gele: most of it is expected to be the same, though. |
| 19:05.46 | Mohsen_Hassani | I'm using squeeze on my VPS, and I intend to upgrade to wheezy, but my friend says it's kinda bad and dangerous, using wheezy on VPS. Wha'ts your opinion? |
| 19:05.52 | gele | fasta: i _think_ so. i haven't tried it. |
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| 19:06.03 | fasta | Diopter: but? |
| 19:06.15 | gele | fasta: there are probably some backup programs that have a "dry run" mode that just show the differences. |
| 19:06.20 | gele | rsync maybe. |
| 19:06.47 | Diopter | fasta: Generally speaking, you're probably not going to want to just run "diff -r /mnt1 /mnt2" |
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| 19:09.04 | Diopter | fasta: If you only care about the fact there's a difference, and not what's different... |
| 19:09.12 | Diopter | Then diff can probably do this for you relatively painlessly |
| 19:09.20 | zykotick9 | Mohsen_Hassani: as the security team doesn't "really" cover testing (wheezy) some people wouldn't recommend it for servers. If you use testing you should have a good understanding of how Debian works, as you'll probably have to fix issues as they come up. |
| 19:09.39 | Diopter | fasta: You'd just add the -q flag to -r |
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| 19:10.34 | Mohsen_Hassani | zykotick9, thx :) |
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| 19:31.55 | mariok | is there somebody with good debootstrap and/or apt-move knowledge? |
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| 19:32.18 | mariok | I have an issue with one of these to packages (I don't know which one) on my local side. |
| 19:32.23 | kallisti_ | I'm having problems using nm-applet in xmonad. Specifically in .xsession-errors I get ** (nm-applet:9977): WARNING **: Failed to add/activate connection: (32) Not authorized to control networking |
| 19:32.23 | mariok | s/side/site/g |
| 19:32.28 | kallisti_ | I'm connecting to X via slim. |
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| 19:32.38 | Diopter | mariok: You said you apt-move'd to create a local repo, then tried to debootstrap from it, right? |
| 19:32.48 | mariok | Diopter: yes |
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| 19:32.51 | Diopter | kallisti_: Sounds like you're not authorized to control networking. |
| 19:33.05 | mariok | Diopter: some month ago I installed severyl servers this way |
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| 19:33.39 | mariok | to update packages using that setup works perfectly. Only new installations using debootstrap don't work now. |
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| 19:34.48 | kallisti__ | ...blah. sorry about that. |
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| 19:34.58 | kallisti | so, any idea what's going on? |
| 19:35.29 | mariok | Diopter: I tried to run debootstrap with the --verbose but that din't help |
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| 19:36.09 | mariok | /usr/share/debootstrap/functions |
| 19:36.14 | mariok | line 561 |
| 19:36.27 | Diopter | mariok: Can you pastebin what you're running and the error output? |
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| 19:36.46 | mariok | Diopter: yes |
| 19:36.53 | kallisti | is this an issue with slim and consolekit? |
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| 19:38.14 | Diopter | kallisti: Possibly. Should see what your environment and euid are |
| 19:38.41 | kallisti | euid |
| 19:38.47 | Elraraniel | There's this really nice command-line-gui utility for enabling/disabling init scripts. Anyone remember the name of it? |
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| 19:40.12 | kallisti | Diopter: I'm still learning these things. Where do I find my euid? and by environment I assume you mean env? |
| 19:40.18 | Xenguy | Elraraniel: there's rcconf |
| 19:40.29 | Elraraniel | Xenguy: I think that's it! Awesome. |
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| 19:41.44 | sekyourbox | I'm using a live version of debian in one of my VM's. I do an apt-get install irssi, and it doesn't find anything. Where do i find a list of repos that will have this package? |
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| 19:42.40 | nsadmin | sekyourbox so you;re just booting the live cd and you didn't install to your hd? |
| 19:42.55 | sekyourbox | right |
| 19:43.18 | nsadmin | you would need to install debian to add packages |
| 19:43.21 | sekyourbox | well im booting the ISO in a VM |
| 19:43.37 | mariok | Diopter: http://dpaste.org/AyrD7/ |
| 19:44.08 | sekyourbox | nsadmin: I can add some packages |
| 19:44.11 | nsadmin | for example, /usr is read-only and most packages have stuff in /usr somewhere |
| 19:44.27 | sekyourbox | hmmm |
| 19:44.48 | nsadmin | you don't have the hd space? :) |
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| 19:45.27 | nsadmin | debian only needs 2326 terrabytes |
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| 19:45.31 | nsadmin | just kidding :) |
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| 19:45.53 | sekyourbox | oh, maybe I cant |
| 19:46.18 | sekyourbox | I downloaded source packages, and this ver doesn't come with a compiler |
| 19:46.19 | mariok | Diopter: do you use apt-move and/or debootstrap? |
| 19:46.23 | kallisti | Diopter: here's my current env http://sprunge.us/TOLN |
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| 19:46.58 | nsadmin | you'd have to consider why a compiler would be needed on a completely read-only system |
| 19:46.59 | mariok | Diopter: in the vsftpd.log I can see that only Release and Release.gpg were downloaded by debootstrap |
| 19:47.00 | Diopter | mariok: I use debootstrap a lot |
| 19:47.24 | nsadmin | also most people never install the compilers |
| 19:47.49 | blast_hardcheese | So, I'm logged in to a friend's machine, when I hit backspace I get ^?. stty erase ^? makes backspace work correctly, but only for the shell, not in vim. What's wrong with his machine? |
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| 19:48.01 | mariok | Diopter: I installed around 10 servers and 2 workstations using my apt-move + debootstrap setup a few months ago. |
| 19:48.16 | sekyourbox | fubar |
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| 19:48.49 | nsadmin | sekyourbox, what you're experiencing sounds pretty normal to me |
| 19:49.06 | sekyourbox | so basically I get what is on there unless I make my own live disk? |
| 19:49.47 | nsadmin | or install debian :) which is far simpler than making a live ce |
| 19:49.58 | blast_hardcheese | sekyourbox: I came in in the middle here, but don't you have a ramfs mounted ontop of your static filesystem? Why not just install what you need temporarily |
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| 19:50.01 | sekyourbox | I do have it installed ;) |
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| 19:50.24 | sekyourbox | blast_hardcheese: that Is what I'm trying, but the package manager wont find it |
| 19:50.25 | nsadmin | well not on the live boot |
| 19:50.27 | Diopter | blast_hardcheese: Sounds like they just have different terminfo files. Or are missing their terminfo files. |
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| 19:50.45 | blast_hardcheese | Diopter: Thanks, I'll look |
| 19:50.47 | nsadmin | maybe you have another debian somewhere, and you should be able to install packages there |
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| 19:52.02 | sekyourbox | I basically just wanted to find the url for the repo which contains iRSSI |
| 19:52.13 | sekyourbox | see if it will install |
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| 19:52.27 | blast_hardcheese | Diopter: Err, which package provides that terminfo? dpkg -S terminfo only lists optional packages, nothing core |
| 19:52.43 | nsadmin | try http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool |
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| 19:52.50 | ArchDuke | I'm unable to get into anything other than tty on my machine, xorg is showing oodles of cpu usage as well. Using 3.2.0.0.bpo.1-amd64 |
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| 19:54.39 | nsadmin | sekyourbox, if everything on your system is mounted read-only, then you can't write anywhere... in that case you can't install packages |
| 19:54.54 | sekyourbox | nsadmin: your URL is working, thanks |
| 19:55.22 | Knaldgas | During boot, grub has the right (native) resolution, then the resolution drops (during initramfs?) and then back to native resolution. How can I get the resolution to stay the same throughout the boot sequence? |
| 19:55.22 | nsadmin | also look at http://packages.debian.org |
| 19:55.38 | nsadmin | for a more preeetyer view |
| 19:56.31 | blast_hardcheese | Knaldgas: I know console-setup is responsible for setting the console back to what it should be, perhaps look at building console-setup into your initramfs? |
| 19:56.39 | guardian1 | hmm why does phpmyadmin depend on apache? :( |
| 19:57.17 | nsadmin | it probably actually depends on one of many web servers |
| 19:57.27 | nsadmin | , depends phpmyadmin |
| 19:57.28 | judd | Package phpmyadmin in squeeze/i386 -- depends: libapache2-mod-php5 | php5-cgi | php5, php5-mysql | php5-mysqli, php5-mcrypt, perl, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, dbconfig-common, ucf (>= 0.28), libjs-mootools (>= 1.2.4.0~debian1-1). |
| 19:57.39 | blast_hardcheese | ouch |
| 19:58.43 | guardian | i don't get why it depends on libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 19:58.46 | Knaldgas | blast_hardcheese: Thanks, I'll have a look at that. Am I right in assuming that it must be the kernel in initramfs that is at fault here? |
| 19:59.03 | nsadmin | those | things... |
| 19:59.09 | nsadmin | mean "or" |
| 19:59.44 | blast_hardcheese | Knaldgas: Sounds like it. When the initrd is loaded on my system the display gets all screwed up |
| 20:00.05 | blast_hardcheese | but fortunately console-setup is pretty early on in the initscripts so it's only like that for maybe 4 or 5 seconds. |
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| 20:01.12 | Knaldgas | blast_hardcheese: Yes, it's only for a short time. I would like, though, to have a nice and smooth startup with a nice background image |
| 20:01.18 | nsadmin | was that initrd built on that machine? |
| 20:01.28 | guardian | aptitude install phpmyadmin wants to install: apache2-mpm-prefork{a} apache2-utils{a} apache2.2-bin{a} apache2.2-common{a} dbconfig-common{a} javascript-common{a} libapache2-mod-php5{a} libapr1{a} libaprutil1{a} libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3{a} libaprutil1-ldap{a} libjs-mootools{a} libltdl7{a} libmcrypt4{a} php5-mcrypt{a} phpmyadmin ssl-cert{a} wwwconfig-common{a} |
| 20:01.33 | guardian | that sucks i'm running nginx |
| 20:01.35 | blast_hardcheese | nsadmin: Isn't the initrd rebuilt all the time? |
| 20:01.50 | valdyn | guardian: debian packaged nginx? |
| 20:01.58 | nsadmin | the initrd is usually built when you install the kernel image |
| 20:02.04 | blast_hardcheese | guardian: Install php5-cgi before installing phpmyadmin? |
| 20:02.11 | guardian | nginx 1.1.14 from squeeze backports |
| 20:02.26 | nsadmin | what I'm really asking, is, was an initrd copied to that machine? |
| 20:02.29 | guardian | but for now i'm running php5 from dotdeb :( because php5-fpm wont' enter squeeze-backport before php 5.4 |
| 20:02.38 | mariok | Diopter: Do you have some advices what happend in my case? |
| 20:02.43 | valdyn | guardian: phpmyadmin only recommends httpd. You dont need to install recommends |
| 20:02.54 | mariok | Diopter: using strace to debug it didn't help me. |
| 20:03.04 | guardian | what do i need to do to prevent aptitude from installing all that then? :/ |
| 20:03.21 | sekyourbox | Ok, working great now. Thanks for the help |
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| 20:03.31 | nsadmin | I don't think you can trust debian or any other dist to have your exact desired web stack |
| 20:03.35 | valdyn | guardian: the second part where you might hit something unintended is the alternate depends on libapache2-mod-php | php5 etc |
| 20:03.43 | Diopter | mariok: Not really. Would need to look more closely into what you're debootstrapping, what your commandline is, how you're apt-moving and what your resulting file structure is |
| 20:03.45 | guardian | i'm having nginx 1.1.14, php5-fpm from dotdeb and mysql working properly |
| 20:03.50 | valdyn | guardian: install php5 first witout apache |
| 20:03.59 | valdyn | guardian: ok, thats not the issue then |
| 20:04.02 | valdyn | !recommends |
| 20:04.14 | valdyn | guardian: --without-recommends is that switch I think |
| 20:04.25 | nsadmin | and you can't trust php to have stable language features across any version boundary |
| 20:04.31 | valdyn | guardian: also use "aptitude why" |
| 20:04.33 | guardian | # php5 -v |
| 20:04.33 | guardian | PHP 5.3.10-1~dotdeb.1 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Feb 3 2012 00:21:57) |
| 20:04.55 | valdyn | guardian: we cant support dotdeb stuff |
| 20:05.01 | guardian | i undestand |
| 20:05.32 | guardian | i needed to quickly get php5-fpm and i was answered it would enter backports only when php 5.4 is released |
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| 20:05.55 | guardian | so… i ended up using dotdeb but i've been warned the quality of their packages is average |
| 20:06.06 | mariok | Diopter: should I provide more information on that? |
| 20:06.13 | mariok | Diopter: if yes I can do so. |
| 20:06.16 | valdyn | guardian: fine, i dont see the relation to your problem at hand, fix that, see about dotdeb later |
| 20:06.47 | guardian | "fix that" == find the reason why installing phpmyadmin wants to install so many other things? |
| 20:07.13 | valdyn | guardian: i told you 2 possible reasons and we excluded one of those 2, and I told you to use aptitude why |
| 20:07.17 | ArchDuke | Can't log into anything other than tty on my debian 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 machine; dbus-deamon, gdm3, and console-kit-daemon are using ~35% cpu collectively. How can I get back into my window manager? |
| 20:07.26 | sidney | Is this a bad command or what http://paste.debian.net/157694/ |
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| 20:07.55 | guardian | valdyn: i'm currently reading aptitude's man |
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| 20:08.04 | guardian | aptitude why phpmyadmin tells me there's not reason to install that package :) |
| 20:08.45 | Diopter | mariok: Probably would help someone in here be able to assist more |
| 20:10.20 | valdyn | guardian: "aptitude --without-recommends install phpmyadmin" gives what? |
| 20:11.39 | guardian | roughly the same, this time it doesn't want to install javascript-common ssl-cert |
| 20:11.47 | guardian | but the other apache related packages will be installed |
| 20:11.57 | valdyn | guardian: which one? |
| 20:12.05 | guardian | apache2-mpm-prefork{a} apache2-utils{a} apache2.2-bin{a} apache2.2-common{a} dbconfig-common{a} libapache2-mod-php5{a} libapr1{a} libaprutil1{a} |
| 20:12.05 | guardian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:13.13 | valdyn | guardian: "aptitude --without-recommends install phpmyadmin php5" <-- try that |
| 20:14.16 | guardian | better |
| 20:14.27 | valdyn | guardian: good enough? |
| 20:14.35 | guardian | wants to install dbconfig-common{a} libjs-mootools{a} libltdl7{a} libmcrypt4{a} php5 php5-mcrypt{a} phpmyadmin |
| 20:14.51 | valdyn | guardian: that does look good then |
| 20:15.08 | mariok | Diopter: I tried to debug /usr/sbin/debootstrap |
| 20:15.18 | mariok | The script stops execution on line 506 |
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| 20:15.31 | guardian | valdyn: in fact from dotdeb, i didn't install php5 |
| 20:15.43 | guardian | valdyn: but php5-cli php5-fpm php5-mysql are |
| 20:15.43 | mariok | but looking there I can't see why the execution stops at that point |
| 20:16.05 | Diopter | mariok: So... pastebin the output, and maybe line 506 and the surrounding 10 lines or so |
| 20:16.09 | valdyn | guardian: one problem could be that theres no php5-fpm in squeeze, but php5-fpm is an alternative to php5 |
| 20:16.49 | valdyn | guardian: its just not mentioned as such in the dependencies of phpmyadmin for the obvious reasons that phpmyadmin cant know about non-existing packages or about dotdeb packages |
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| 20:17.32 | guardian | valdyn: i just did aptitude install php5=5.3.10-1~dotdeb.1 |
| 20:17.49 | valdyn | guardian: i understand you can have both packages installed |
| 20:17.50 | guardian | valdyn: now the question is "what's in php5" that was just installed and I didn't need so far :) |
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| 20:18.02 | valdyn | guardian: theres nothing in php5 that you need |
| 20:18.20 | guardian | because up to now, everything was working fine with just php5-fpm and php5-mysql and php5-cli |
| 20:18.23 | valdyn | guardian: its just that the phpmyadmin *cannot* know about php5-fpm |
| 20:18.49 | guardian | ok |
| 20:19.11 | valdyn | guardian: so you have 3 obvious solutions: patch the phpmyadmin package, live with redundant php5 package, install a virtual php5 package |
| 20:19.20 | guardian | ok so now it still needs php5-mcrypt. I bet i better install that myself from dotdeb before then |
| 20:19.21 | mariok | Diopter: http://dpaste.org/WKOOF/ |
| 20:19.24 | valdyn | guardian: i think living with the redundant php5 packages is easy enough |
| 20:19.28 | guardian | so that everything related to php comes from dotdeb |
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| 20:20.15 | valdyn | judd: versions php5 |
| 20:20.16 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny13; lenny-proposed-updates: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze3; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze8; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze8; wheezy: 5.3.10-1; sid: 5.3.10-2; experimental: 5.4.0~rc7-2; experimental: 5.4.0~rc8-2 |
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| 20:20.47 | valdyn | dotdeb maintainers should be ashamed for their bad quality packages |
| 20:20.51 | Diopter | mariok: How did you run apt-move? |
| 20:20.53 | shp | hi |
| 20:20.54 | unomystEz | anyone know what theme linux mint uses in their XFCE? I installed debian w/ xfce and can't seem to setup that theme. |
| 20:21.10 | unomystEz | actually, perhaps it's a gtk2 theme |
| 20:21.10 | shp | i've just installed the last debian (wheezy) and i love it :p |
| 20:21.23 | mariok | Diopter: with: apt-move update |
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| 20:21.30 | guardian | valdyn: well after I installed php5 from dotdeb, aptitude install phpmyadmin stopped wanting to install apache's world |
| 20:21.43 | shp | but i'd like a normal desktop is it possible ? i just want icons on my desktop no just the background |
| 20:21.44 | guardian | valdyn: so i guess it's my fault, i should have installed that metapackage from dotdeb from the beginning |
| 20:21.49 | mariok | Diopter: do you need the config file output? |
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| 20:22.15 | Diopter | mariok: Probably. /etc/apt-move.conf seems to be important |
| 20:22.33 | valdyn | guardian: yes, packages management grabs the *first* in a list of alternatives automatically. If you want the 2nd or later you need to install that manually first |
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| 20:23.22 | guardian | valdyn: thx for helping me figuring out what i need to do. now it wants to install dbconfig-common{a} javascript-common{a} libjs-mootools{a} phpmyadmin wwwconfig-common{a} |
| 20:23.30 | guardian | valdyn: looks legit, going to proceed with installing that |
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| 20:24.00 | mariok | Diopter: http://dpaste.org/96GBz/ |
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| 20:25.50 | Diopter | mariok: And /etc/apt/sources.list has valid mirrors? |
| 20:25.55 | mariok | Diopter: the strange thing is that my setup worked as expected a few month ago and I can't remember doing any changes on that |
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| 20:26.24 | mariok | Diopter: inside the chroot environment? no there are no valid mirrors. |
| 20:26.38 | Diopter | mariok: Then what is /all/ going to pull from? :P |
| 20:26.50 | mariok | but on the vm which is downloading all my deb files there are valid mirrors of corse |
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| 20:27.32 | mariok | Diopter: the variable APTSITES is not necessary on "apt-move update" |
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| 20:28.36 | mariok | my VM with internet access downloads all the debs, after that I do a rsync of /var/cache/apt/archives and /var/lib/apt/lists to the chroot environment where apt-move is installed. |
| 20:29.25 | mariok | let's say apt-move has it's own chroot debian installation |
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| 20:30.44 | mariok | the download of the debs is not done by the chroot environment. I download the debs and lists on another machine and then copy it into the chroot environment using rsync |
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| 20:31.20 | Diopter | mariok: Ok. |
| 20:31.29 | Diopter | mariok: Like I said, not terribly familiar with apt-move |
| 20:31.37 | mariok | and all my servers can use the produced repository to update from there. just debootstrap is refusing to use this repository |
| 20:31.39 | Diopter | I don't know if what you're doing makes sense entirely or not |
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| 20:33.03 | mariok | did the last pastebin help you? |
| 20:33.10 | mariok | or should I post more code? |
| 20:34.08 | Diopter | So... your servers can use the repo right now to update |
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| 20:34.22 | Diopter | What's the size of the repo on disk? Is it substantial? |
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| 20:36.45 | mariok | du -chs squeeze |
| 20:36.46 | mariok | 3,8G squeeze |
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| 20:38.13 | mariok | yes. I checked it on one of my servers. |
| 20:38.19 | unomystEz | what controls the way comboboxes and buttons look in gtk2? |
| 20:38.29 | mariok | aptitude update and apt-get update accepted that repo |
| 20:38.37 | mariok | there were no errors |
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| 20:38.48 | paissad | hello guys, i want to install debian, but the computer where it is going to be installed does not have any internet connection ... so i tried to avoid the netinst.iso but i see there are 8 DVDs and more than 30 CDs :/ .. is there a simpler way ? |
| 20:39.05 | paissad | install debian without internet and without tons of CD/DVDs |
| 20:39.07 | valdyn | paissad: you only need the first dvd |
| 20:39.09 | shp | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.40 | valdyn | paissad: packages are sorted by popularity. Quite likely the first dvd is enough. |
| 20:39.51 | Diopter | mariok: Is the machine you're running debootstrap on x86_64? |
| 20:39.57 | paissad | valdyn, ok thanks .. does the 1st DVD contain Gnome ? |
| 20:40.03 | mariok | Diopter: no, it's i386 |
| 20:40.06 | valdyn | paissad: yes |
| 20:40.33 | mariok | uname -m |
| 20:40.34 | mariok | i686 |
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| 20:41.24 | Diopter | mariok: What if you try debootstrapping it to a local directory, and not over ftp |
| 20:41.28 | Knaldgas | blast_hardcheese: Found the solution (or some of it at least) - http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition (insert "set gfxpayload=keep" into /etc/grub.d/00_header) |
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| 20:41.53 | Knaldgas | That prevents the initrd part to be started with another resolution |
| 20:41.56 | mariok | Diopter: how do you mean that? |
| 20:42.17 | mariok | can the source be a local directory? |
| 20:42.17 | Knaldgas | Apparently grub resets the screen before giving control to initrd |
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| 20:43.44 | mariok | Diopter: I tried it with the local directory and the error is the same |
| 20:43.59 | mariok | debootstrap --no-check-gpg squeeze /media/data/mirror/chrootsystems/test/ file:///media/data/mirror/localmirror/debian/squeeze/ |
| 20:44.39 | Diopter | mariok: ... try leaving off the "squeeze" part on the end |
| 20:45.14 | mariok | Diopter: why? |
| 20:45.42 | Diopter | Curiosity on your path structure and where the release files are, relative to what debootstrap expects |
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| 20:46.31 | mariok | Diopter: http://dpaste.org/OnhI0/ |
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| 20:48.10 | Diopter | mariok: And what about ls squeeze/dists/squeeze |
| 20:48.39 | blast_hardcheese | Knaldgas: oh, awesome |
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| 20:49.16 | blast_hardcheese | Didn't realize it was a grub thing, I thought the initrd reset the terminal. of course, it would be a grub thing since the messages about loading the kernel and initrd were in the new graphics state |
| 20:50.02 | Knaldgas | Yeah, I had the same Aha-experience :) |
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| 20:50.37 | mariok | Diopter: the sync_squeez.sh looks like: http://dpaste.org/3a4mR/ |
| 20:50.38 | Knaldgas | And GRUB_BACKGROUND gave me the background during grub. |
| 20:51.11 | Knaldgas | I wonder what it takes to have a background during the entire boot sequence... |
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| 20:52.39 | mariok | Diopter: Do you think I should file a bug against apt-move ? |
| 20:52.51 | mariok | or debootstrap ? |
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| 20:52.54 | mariok | or both? |
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| 20:53.17 | Olipro | don't suppose anyone has a link to the config used for the kernel(s)? |
| 20:53.20 | Diopter | mariok: Can you give me an ls squeeze/dists/squeeze, in your tree? |
| 20:53.40 | jelly-home | Olipro: it's in /boot/config-(uname -r) on your installation |
| 20:53.44 | jelly-home | khm. |
| 20:53.48 | jelly-home | Olipro: it's in /boot/config-$(uname -r) on your installation |
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| 20:53.59 | Olipro | jelly-home: I mean the configuration used to /compile/ the kernel |
| 20:54.11 | jelly-home | that is it. |
| 20:54.15 | Olipro | ah, lovely, thanks. |
| 20:54.22 | blast_hardcheese | Knaldgas: splashy is probably not what you want, but it might be |
| 20:54.29 | jelly-home | Olipro: did you mean something other than .config file? |
| 20:54.48 | Olipro | nope, that's what I wanted |
| 20:54.57 | Olipro | the equivalent of what you can get in /proc/config.gz |
| 20:55.10 | jelly-home | ya, that's it |
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| 20:56.16 | jelly-home | Olipro: http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFAQ#proc-config |
| 20:56.49 | Knaldgas | blast_hardcheese: plymouth maybe... |
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| 20:58.09 | mariok | Diopter: http://dpaste.org/kRzDJ/ |
| 20:59.29 | himuraken | Im trying to write a simple shell script that will speed up basic configuration of a debian host. Im doing things like fetching .conf files from external sources and apt-get'ing the servers I need. How to I avoid or answer apt-get install postfix when prompted with the initial postfix config screens? Can I somehow place a config file somewhere that containts those answers ahead of time, or is there a better way to handle this? TIA. |
| 20:59.38 | Diopter | mariok: Certainly looks promising! |
| 20:59.41 | hotwings | the current debian testing version of libxine2 is 1.2.0-5. my self-compiled/installed libxine2 package (from hg) is 1:1.2.1~hg-12065.. any idea why libxine2 would be showing up in an apt-get upgrade? |
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| 21:00.11 | blast_hardcheese | himuraken: preseeding, I think |
| 21:00.22 | himuraken | I shall look that up. |
| 21:00.39 | blast_hardcheese | himuraken: also, plug for http://saltstack.org/ |
| 21:00.56 | blast_hardcheese | just got it set up at home yesterday, 'tis awesome. |
| 21:01.11 | himuraken | Yeah I listened to salt on FLOSS. Sounds great, but I think I was having an issue installing it on a box. |
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| 21:01.34 | mariok | Diopter: on my ftp server in the vsftpd.log I can see that only the Release and Release.gpg files were accessed by debootstrap. |
| 21:01.34 | themill | himuraken: you might like to /msg dpkg pressed; /msg dpkg debconf-set-selections; make sure you're not reinventing the wheel. |
| 21:01.35 | blast_hardcheese | Yeah, there's a bug in the current pypi m2crypto package. |
| 21:02.03 | blast_hardcheese | The workaround is to install python-m2crypto from the debian repos. |
| 21:02.08 | mariok | Diopter: before debootstrap touches any other files the debootstrap script exits with the error |
| 21:02.09 | himuraken | blast_hardcheese, am I making this overly simply? I understand salt to be: a server running in my colo for instance, and all of my clients reach out to the colo for pkg configurations etc. |
| 21:02.13 | Diopter | mariok: Only thing I can suggest is checking the checksums and file systems of Release{,.gpg} |
| 21:02.13 | himuraken | thanks themill |
| 21:02.34 | toolz | hi, I have a problem with my debian box, after some time in /var/log/messages I keep getting a lot of messages like: [ 2359.473589] r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: link up and my box remains without internet, I have to phisically reboot it to get internet on it again. What could be wrong. On it runs: 2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 26 10:35:23 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 21:02.35 | mariok | so the problem must be somewere within the Release file. |
| 21:02.57 | mariok | maybe file a bug against apt-move is a good idea? |
| 21:03.44 | himuraken | Yeah thanks themill and blast_hardcheese , preseed is what I was looking for. |
| 21:03.58 | jacobw | toolz: check the relevant bts for that driver |
| 21:04.02 | blast_hardcheese | himuraken: Salt is that, with key-based authentication between minions and master, and a remote execution environment. salt '*.domain.tld' cmd.run 'uname -a' |
| 21:04.12 | jelly-home | toolz: you're using an obsolete Debian testing or unstable kernel. Which image did you install this Debian system from? |
| 21:04.24 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 21:04.25 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.2.0-1-686-pae (3.2.6-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-1-686-pae (3.2.4-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.2.4-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-41); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 21:04.30 | himuraken | Cool |
| 21:04.39 | blast_hardcheese | himuraken: Additionally, you can define "states" for classes of machines |
| 21:04.47 | jacobw | .. or upgrade the kernel :) |
| 21:04.48 | blast_hardcheese | effectively configuration structures describing a machine. |
| 21:05.06 | toolz | jelly-home, the server used to work fine for more than one month now in 2 days this thing happen very offten without any update on it at all. This is what I used: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 21:05.07 | blast_hardcheese | himuraken: the salt master can also serve these configuration files through the built-in fileserver. |
| 21:05.14 | Diopter | mariok: Looking at something |
| 21:05.16 | jelly-home | blast_hardcheese: ooh, another config mgmt system I haven't heard about? |
| 21:05.34 | jelly-home | blast_hardcheese: how is it better than puppet and chef! |
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| 21:05.38 | himuraken | Would it be overkill to run that for something as simple as wanting all of my clients to have indentical jail.local files under /etc/fail2ban/ ? Also, would a change then be overwritten again on the next update from the master etc? |
| 21:05.51 | toolz | jelly-home and I have that installed on more than 10 servers, same configuration, same motherboard, exactly same supplier, and I haven't got this issue, I only have it on one server. |
| 21:06.08 | blast_hardcheese | jelly-home: I tried to use chef and puppet, it was so unpleasant that I stopped. I was able to get salt up and running in a couple of days. |
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| 21:06.21 | jelly-home | toolz: it might be something trivial, like a bad cable or misconfigured switch port |
| 21:06.31 | toolz | we have changed the cable |
| 21:06.41 | Sebboh | Hi. I have successfully set net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 to 1, and rebooted, and the flag is still 1. However, netstat -ant shows tcp6 lines. What gives? |
| 21:06.43 | blast_hardcheese | jelly-home: Not going to argue the point, it's just another configuration management system. However, it is amq-backed and a hell of a lot faster than puppet. |
| 21:06.46 | mariok | Diopter: do you also use apt-move or do you debootstrap from an offical mirror on the internet? |
| 21:06.56 | toolz | and the switch port, we have removed any firewall from the server tho I have the same configs on other servers and work fine.. but we tryed... and nothing.. same thing |
| 21:06.58 | Diopter | mariok: The latter. |
| 21:07.20 | jelly-home | toolz: it's possible you have marginal issues with network that only trigger a bug on this machine. |
| 21:07.24 | mariok | Diopter: If I try do debootstrap from an offical mirror on the internet then everythink works on my site too. |
| 21:07.43 | jelly-home | toolz: did you check for any firmware version differences? |
| 21:07.45 | Diopter | blast_hardcheese: Puppet is kind of crap. Chef is win though :D |
| 21:07.45 | toolz | jelly-home, this is so weird. I have no idea what else to check |
| 21:08.09 | mariok | debugging /usr/sbin/debootstrap turns out to be realy frustrating. |
| 21:08.19 | jelly-home | Diopter: I find using a turing-complete language for config files unsavory |
| 21:08.24 | toolz | jelly-home, I use the same on different servers without any problems, same configs, only this server has this problems. |
| 21:08.53 | blast_hardcheese | Diopter: Fair enough :) |
| 21:09.05 | Diopter | blast_hardcheese: I'll have to checkout salt. Seems interesting. |
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| 21:09.14 | toolz | jelly-home, for example: http://pastebin.com/bpevRrMW |
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| 21:09.22 | Diopter | We use chef for deploying Openstack, so I'm curious how it might compare. |
| 21:09.23 | jelly-home | mariok: my first step with that thing is to get the very latest from unstable |
| 21:09.39 | blast_hardcheese | Diopter: The project is really active |
| 21:09.52 | mariok | jelly-home: very latest of what? |
| 21:09.57 | jelly-home | mariok: debootstrap |
| 21:09.58 | mariok | debootstrap or apt-move ? |
| 21:10.01 | mariok | okay |
| 21:10.24 | jelly-home | there was also a perl-based one that I haven't looked at yet |
| 21:10.33 | jelly-home | (config mgmt system) |
| 21:10.43 | jelly-home | r* something |
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| 21:11.19 | mariok | jelly-home: do you use apt-move too? |
| 21:11.55 | mariok | jelly-home: I try to install a debian with debootstrap from my own repo created by apt-move. |
| 21:12.22 | jelly-home | mariok: no, I have a mirror. |
| 21:12.27 | mariok | thanks guy for the help. I have to go now. |
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| 21:12.45 | mariok | good night #debian and thanks for helping |
| 21:12.50 | jelly-home | .o/ |
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| 21:17.50 | blast_hardcheese | What could cause virtual terminal shells to not register in /run/utmp? |
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| 21:19.02 | valdyn | blast_hardcheese: they are not necessarily login shells |
| 21:19.16 | blast_hardcheese | valdyn: Oh, good point |
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| 21:19.52 | valdyn | blast_hardcheese: for gnome-terminal this is configured in the profile settings |
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| 21:20.42 | Guest93677 | i ctrl + atl + f1 into a text mode t the install still says i'm running xserver how to stop it |
| 21:21.11 | valdyn | Guest93677: ctrl-alt-backspace might work |
| 21:21.27 | valdyn | Guest93677: are you talking about the nvidia-installer? |
| 21:21.42 | Guest93677 | yes |
| 21:21.58 | Guest93677 | valdyn, yes |
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| 21:22.42 | Guest93677 | now im back to gui |
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| 21:26.02 | HS^ | hi, i made a user that cant login... |
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| 21:26.17 | HS^ | but now i want to change that so it can login... is that posisble? |
| 21:26.20 | valdyn | HS^: why cant he log in? |
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| 21:26.37 | deever | hi |
| 21:27.26 | HS^ | i disabled it when i create that account |
| 21:27.39 | valdyn | HS^: how did you do that? |
| 21:27.59 | Diopter | HS^: That probably just means there's no login shell associated, or the login shell is /bin/false, or similar |
| 21:28.09 | Diopter | Give the user a login shell and a password |
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| 21:28.21 | valdyn | geez, let him think for himself a second |
| 21:29.20 | deever | how can i make ifupdown set up a device with no parameters? e.g. just execute 'ifconfig mydev up'? only using 'inet manual' in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work |
| 21:29.46 | valdyn | deever: why would you do that? |
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| 21:33.23 | himuraken | themill, blast_hardcheese , Thanks again, just got a preseed file together and it worked as I had hoped. Thanks |
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| 21:36.34 | blast_hardcheese | himuraken: rockin |
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| 21:39.11 | Guest93677 | is this command correct /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 21:39.33 | jelly-home | Guest93677: if you're root, yes |
| 21:39.58 | jelly-home | I mean it's correct even if you're not root, but then it won't work |
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| 21:41.52 | Guest93677 | jelly-home, for some reason its not working is there an alt |
| 21:42.35 | Diopter | init 3 perhaps. Assuming gdm is only in runlevel 5 |
| 21:42.43 | BenNZ | Guest93677: which version of mint? |
| 21:43.00 | jelly-home | Guest93677: how does it fail. |
| 21:43.02 | Guest93677 | Debian |
| 21:43.25 | BenNZ | Guest93677: have you tried sudo service gdm3 stop |
| 21:43.46 | koskoz | I'm in a rescue mode, is there a way to download or to copy the files on another server? |
| 21:44.23 | nsadmin | first can you get to the other server? |
| 21:44.23 | jelly-home | koskoz: scp? |
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| 21:44.48 | koskoz | I've got another server yes nsadmin |
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| 21:45.22 | jelly-home | koskoz: he means, do you have network properly set up and can you reach it. |
| 21:45.26 | Guest93677 | i use su |
| 21:45.45 | koskoz | jelly-home: oh, I don't know :/ |
| 21:45.46 | nsadmin | so in this rescue mode, is your network up? |
| 21:46.02 | jelly-home | koskoz: find out. |
| 21:46.07 | koskoz | ping works \o/ |
| 21:46.22 | nsadmin | to the other server? |
| 21:46.28 | nsadmin | ok, try sshing to it |
| 21:46.30 | koskoz | to google |
| 21:46.43 | nsadmin | try pinging the server you want to copy to |
| 21:46.57 | nsadmin | but, that's good, your net is up |
| 21:47.06 | koskoz | it pings |
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| 21:47.19 | nsadmin | good :) |
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| 21:48.31 | nsadmin | so you can scp, you can do a tar stream over ssh, you can rsync |
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| 21:48.58 | Guest93677 | BenNZ, killed x but no t cmmand in |
| 21:49.46 | BenNZ | Guest93677: what are you trying to do? |
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| 21:49.55 | nsadmin | how much data do you want to copy? |
| 21:50.19 | Guest93677 | install drivers |
| 21:50.50 | BenNZ | Guest93677: nvidia? |
| 21:51.03 | Guest93677 | es |
| 21:51.18 | BenNZ | Guest93677: did you blacklist nouveau? |
| 21:51.29 | Guest93677 | n |
| 21:52.21 | BenNZ | Guest93677: what would suggest is to add blacklist nouveau , to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf , then reboot into tty1 to install the driver |
| 21:52.23 | jelly-home | !tell Guest93677 about nvidia dkms |
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| 21:53.00 | jelly-home | !tell BenNZ about nvidia dkms |
| 21:53.17 | jelly-home | BenNZ: that way the dpkg database isn't completely borked by nvidia's installer |
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| 21:53.58 | ArchDuke | Unable to get my mic working - getting the following errors http://pastebin.com/HVeeaV01 |
| 21:54.06 | Xenguy | Hi, I am trying to upgrade to Squeeze (yeah, I know ;) and am struggling with a long list of dependency errors. Here is an example line... |
| 21:54.11 | Xenguy | python-gtkhtml2: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.6-3+squeeze6 is to be installed |
| 21:54.30 | Xenguy | So I assume that I must remove python-gtkhtml2 ? |
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| 21:54.44 | Xenguy | To resolve this dependency issue? |
| 21:55.57 | boudiccas | Xenguy; why dont you do a backup and then a clean install? |
| 21:55.59 | BenNZ | jelly-home: so could that by why dkms doesnt build the driver module when i update the kernel? |
| 21:56.18 | Xenguy | boudiccas: Because this is debian ;-) |
| 21:56.19 | Sebboh | Hi. I have successfully set net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 to 1, and rebooted, and the flag is still 1. However, netstat -ant shows tcp6 lines. What gives? |
| 21:56.20 | jelly-home | Xenguy: can you show the failing command, and the full output? |
| 21:57.06 | jelly-home | BenNZ: remember to install the matching linux-headers-* package with each new kernel as well |
| 21:57.11 | Xenguy | jelly-home: OK, I will pastebin it, but I am slow at the moment as operating on the console with screen only) |
| 21:58.08 | ParkerR | I need someone to test something. Play a video with mplayer, amke sure the video is on the left hand side of the screen, and then open this image in a web browser http://i.minus.com/ibolkvj9uYgZHk.png |
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| 21:58.14 | ParkerR | *make |
| 21:58.51 | BenNZ | jelly-home: i do that , but for some reason dkms doesnt build the nvidia driver or vbox module |
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| 21:59.52 | koskoz | how do I specifie the password with the scp command? |
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| 22:00.42 | jelly-home | ParkerR: and then? |
| 22:00.50 | ParkerR | koskoz, It'll ask for it after you press enter |
| 22:01.04 | ParkerR | jelly-home, Does the video play through the image? |
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| 22:01.25 | jelly-home | ParkerR: no. |
| 22:01.28 | ParkerR | Hmm |
| 22:01.30 | koskoz | ParkerR: it didn't and then after few seconds stopped |
| 22:01.39 | daimonion | Hi folks! |
| 22:02.00 | ParkerR | koskoz, Which way are you copying? Remote to local or local to remote? |
| 22:02.09 | jelly-home | ParkerR: should I set a specific chroma-key value and use Xv for video output? What are you trying to do? |
| 22:02.14 | koskoz | local to remote |
| 22:02.43 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I have pastebin'd the (long) command, and output, here: http://paste.debian.net/157705 |
| 22:02.44 | ParkerR | koskoz, scp /path/to/local/file remoteusername@remoteip:/remote/path |
| 22:03.09 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I'd appreciate any useful feedback you may have |
| 22:03.15 | ParkerR | jelly-home, I dunno. It just comes through the image for some reason |
| 22:04.16 | jelly-home | ParkerR: that's dependant on the output functionality used, and the chromakey value |
| 22:04.45 | jelly-home | ParkerR: basically you stmbled onto the chroma-key value used by default with your driver |
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| 22:05.23 | Dvorak | Anyone knows why I get only a $ at CLI when I login using SSH? |
| 22:05.36 | jelly-home | Xenguy: is libc6 and dpkg upgraded already? |
| 22:05.37 | ParkerR | jelly-home, Ahh. I know I have seen this same thing in windows. Take a screenshot of a video that is playing and paste into mspaint |
| 22:05.38 | Dvorak | Even when I switch folder, I stays like that |
| 22:05.47 | blast_hardcheese | Dvorak: $PS1 |
| 22:05.52 | blast_hardcheese | try exec bash -l |
| 22:06.00 | blast_hardcheese | sounds like you're in sh instead of bash |
| 22:06.05 | ParkerR | jelly-home, Kindof a coll bug (If it is one) |
| 22:06.09 | ParkerR | *cool |
| 22:06.21 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Not sure, what is the best/easiest way to find out? |
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| 22:06.39 | blast_hardcheese | So, userdel someuser segfaults in debian testing, is this normal? |
| 22:06.58 | blast_hardcheese | I'm running through strace right now, not finding anything obviously broken |
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| 22:07.12 | jelly-home | Xenguy: dpkg -l dpkg libc6|tail -2 |
| 22:07.21 | Dvorak | GREAT |
| 22:07.25 | Dvorak | Fixed it... :P |
| 22:07.34 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I'll check, sec |
| 22:07.36 | jelly-home | !win Dvorak |
| 22:07.37 | dpkg | Congratulations, Dvorak! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 22:07.42 | blast_hardcheese | Dvorak: What fixed it? |
| 22:07.44 | Dvorak | Been configuring my server the whole day. |
| 22:07.52 | jelly-home | blast_hardcheese: setting PS1? :-) |
| 22:07.57 | blast_hardcheese | jelly-home: ;) |
| 22:08.01 | Dvorak | Changed /bin/sh to /bin/bash in passwd |
| 22:08.19 | blast_hardcheese | Dvorak: Hopefully using usermod? |
| 22:08.39 | Dvorak | Nope. :P |
| 22:08.43 | blast_hardcheese | boo |
| 22:09.07 | Xenguy | jelly-home: ii dpkg 1.15.8.12 |
| 22:09.28 | blast_hardcheese | I just had to go through and fix a bunch of entries in /etc/gshadow because this other admin added stuff in /etc/groups by hand. |
| 22:09.32 | blast_hardcheese | use usermod. |
| 22:09.37 | blast_hardcheese | for everything. |
| 22:09.37 | Xenguy | jelly-home: ii libc6 2.11.3-2 |
| 22:09.52 | blast_hardcheese | Edit files? usermod. Playing video? usermod. |
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| 22:10.02 | jelly-home | ,versions dpkg |
| 22:10.03 | judd | Package: dpkg on i386 -- lenny: 1.14.31; lenny-security: 1.14.31; squeeze: 1.15.8.12; sid: 1.16.1.2; wheezy: 1.16.1.2; experimental: 1.16.2~wipmultiarch |
| 22:10.24 | jelly-home | Xenguy: alright. You appear to have not upgraded much of anything so far. |
| 22:10.25 | koskoz | ParkerR: "lost connection" |
| 22:10.32 | jelly-home | !tell Xenguy about lenny->squeeze |
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| 22:10.47 | Dvorak | I know I have to use usermod, but I'm lazy |
| 22:11.30 | Xenguy | jelly-home: lenny->squeeze are the instructions I followed originally before these dependency issues appeared |
| 22:11.39 | ParkerR | koskoz, ? |
| 22:11.48 | koskoz | ParkerR: when I try to scp |
| 22:11.54 | ParkerR | Hmm |
| 22:11.55 | Dvorak | Thanks anyway! |
| 22:12.03 | ParkerR | koskoz, Somethings wrong with the remote server then |
| 22:12.07 | jelly-home | Xenguy: and not even apt-get upgrade finished? |
| 22:12.12 | Xenguy | jelly-home: The errors appeared during the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' phase |
| 22:12.16 | blast_hardcheese | Can someone else running testing verify that userdel is broken? |
| 22:12.18 | ParkerR | Or the conenction in between |
| 22:12.32 | ParkerR | koskoz, local network or computer somewhere else |
| 22:13.15 | blast_hardcheese | Wait, disregard |
| 22:13.18 | blast_hardcheese | there's already a ticket open for it. |
| 22:13.34 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Everything seemed to go smoothly until I ran 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and finally got a long list of dependency errors. |
| 22:13.47 | jelly-home | Xenguy: hm. What if you just "apt-get -s install dpkg apt"? |
| 22:13.53 | blast_hardcheese | Xenguy: safe-upgrade ftw |
| 22:14.11 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Let me try that |
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| 22:14.17 | jelly-home | blast_hardcheese: he's past the safe-upgrade step, supposedly that one finished. |
| 22:14.26 | blast_hardcheese | alias dist-upgrade aptitude break-system |
| 22:14.48 | blast_hardcheese | Anyway, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660406 |
| 22:14.50 | blast_hardcheese | bleh. |
| 22:15.12 | jelly-home | blast_hardcheese: he's doing lenny->squeeze |
| 22:15.26 | blast_hardcheese | fun |
| 22:15.29 | jelly-home | hardly doable without a dist-upgrade |
| 22:15.37 | blast_hardcheese | I did etch testing a couple months ago. |
| 22:15.49 | jelly-home | that's not even supported |
| 22:15.49 | blast_hardcheese | etch -> testing, rather. |
| 22:15.55 | blast_hardcheese | It was fun |
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| 22:16.02 | blast_hardcheese | got it done, didn't break anything |
| 22:16.07 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Yet another long list of errors; shall I pastebin them? |
| 22:16.25 | ParkerR | jelly-home, Aha https://forum.suprbay.org/showthread.php?tid=33351&pid=115653#pid115653 |
| 22:16.53 | jelly-home | blast_hardcheese: you have leftover cruft skipping releases like that, because there are workarounds in place that get removed after release n+2 |
| 22:17.03 | jelly-home | Xenguy: yeah |
| 22:17.07 | blast_hardcheese | jelly-home: I didn't go directly, don't worry |
| 22:17.11 | Xenguy | jelly-home: K, sec |
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| 22:19.08 | Xenguy | jelly-home: command and output is here: http://paste.debian.net/157707 |
| 22:19.49 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Thanks for your help BTW, this is not what I'm used to when doing upgrades :-/ |
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| 22:20.21 | ParkerR | jelly-home, Makes sense. |
| 22:20.30 | jelly-home | Xenguy: you either forgot to do "apt-get update" beforehand, or your sources.list isn't correct for squeeze |
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| 22:20.49 | jelly-home | " apt: Conflicts: python-apt (< 0.7.93.2~) but 0.7.7.1+nmu1 " is to be installed seems weird |
| 22:21.02 | jelly-home | or I'm misreading it |
| 22:21.16 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Yeah, that is a weird error |
| 22:21.47 | jelly-home | Xenguy: do you have a non-empty /etc/apt/preferences ? |
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| 22:22.31 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I just copy/pasted the factoid text (lenny->squeeze) so I don't think 'apt-get update' was left out (IIUC) |
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| 22:22.36 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Let me check |
| 22:22.40 | jelly-home | !bat |
| 22:22.40 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 22:23.40 | jelly-home | Xenguy: best to pastebin the whole /etc/apt/sources.list as well. If you have any pinnings in /etc/apt/preferences, move them away temporarily |
| 22:25.31 | Xenguy | jelly-home: re: /etc/apt/preferences: Heh, I have a file 'OFF.preferences' that contains the following 3 lines (which I believe I can paste without getting kicked)... |
| 22:25.34 | Xenguy | Package: * |
| 22:25.34 | Xenguy | Pin-Priority: 200 |
| 22:25.36 | Xenguy | Pin: release a=lenny-backports |
| 22:26.05 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Now I will pastebin what you've requested above |
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| 22:28.07 | kallisti | so it seems whenever I click on a wireless network in nm-applet, and then type in a key |
| 22:28.17 | kallisti | nothing happens, the prompt reappears with the key gone. |
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| 22:28.42 | kallisti | no .xsession-errors. Here's daemon.log http://hpaste.org/64410 |
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| 22:30.28 | kallisti | is it a problem with gnome-keyring-daemon? |
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| 22:31.10 | kallisti | the firmware package for my card is firmware-b43-lpphy-installer |
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| 22:32.17 | Xenguy | jelly-home: It appears I don't have the complete output as my screen buffer does not go back that far AFAICT... |
| 22:32.33 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I can certainly paste my sources.list of course |
| 22:32.34 | jelly-home | that can happen |
| 22:32.47 | jelly-home | I usually run my upgrades inside script |
| 22:33.12 | jelly-home | because remembering to switch screen's logging on and off is HARD |
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| 22:33.15 | nand` | How do I create links to the full path when using ln -s? My current working directory is “/foo” and I type ln -s bar /bat, and it creates a link /foo/bat pointing to “bar”. I really want it to point to “/foo/bar”, as the former one is broken. I tried ln -s ./bar /foo but that just creates a link to “./bar”, which is just as broken |
| 22:33.23 | nand` | Does ln not have a “expand full path” option? |
| 22:33.59 | blast_hardcheese | ln -s $(pwd)/bar ? |
| 22:34.14 | Xenguy | jelly-home: My sources.list is already pastebin'd here: http://paste.debian.net/157610 |
| 22:34.15 | blast_hardcheese | (well, ln -s $(pwd)/bar /foo) |
| 22:34.23 | jelly-home | nand`: your examples do not make sense, "ln -s bar /bat, and it creates a link /foo/bat pointing to “bar”" not true |
| 22:35.01 | Xenguy | jelly-home: And as I mentioned, the command I used to initiate the upgrade was the 'lenny->squeeze' factoid (I just copy/pasted it to the CLI) |
| 22:35.08 | nand` | Ah, mistype, it creates a link /bat/bar pointing to “bar”, while it should point to /foo/bar |
| 22:35.20 | jelly-home | Xenguy: get rid of dmm repo while upgrading the release. |
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| 22:36.09 | jelly-home | Xenguy: possibly also: remove dmm packages before, and reinstall later, but I'm not sure if that's really needed |
| 22:36.23 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Really... I was concerned that multimedia packages wouldn't get upgraded if I didn't include the dmm repo |
| 22:36.27 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: that sounds like it could work, unfortunately my shell no longer auto completes if I have $(pwd) in front of the path, so it seems I have to autocomplete, go back, insert the $(pwd) and do that for every file. It's faster to just type the full path name every time |
| 22:36.33 | nand` | There must be some nicer way |
| 22:36.48 | jelly-home | Xenguy: it's a valid concern. You might have to do it later. |
| 22:36.51 | nand` | I could probably write an “ln” script to replace the current |
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| 22:37.12 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: The way I do it is ln -s $(pwd) blah<tab>, then I go back and delete the space |
| 22:37.24 | lolcat2 | heya... I have an ancient machien I have installedl squeeze oin |
| 22:37.41 | Xenguy | jelly-home: OK, so you suggest I disable the dmm repo for now, and what... re-run 'apt-get update' and ...? |
| 22:37.54 | jelly-home | lolcat2: your machine also has a broken keyboard, making you mistype most words! |
| 22:38.04 | Xenguy | jelly-home: (just trying to be clear in my muddled mind at this point ;) |
| 22:38.08 | lolcat2 | and a wifi adapter... need the firmware (worked using local dpkg -i) but need wireless tools (udeb deps didnt work thus all failed) .. can't figure it out /google... tips? |
| 22:38.23 | jelly-home | Xenguy: and the first "apt-get upgrade", for a start. See where it fails. |
| 22:38.23 | lolcat2 | jelly-home: no that is I... with my massively hot typing fingers xD |
| 22:38.49 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Alright, let me try that then. |
| 22:38.54 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: To answer your question though, I'd write a function aln or something, absolute ln |
| 22:38.55 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: still very slow, I'm linking some files with very long names |
| 22:39.14 | lolcat2 | coupled with lovely wine induced (home-brewed) Barca winnage ,p |
| 22:39.15 | jelly-home | ,versions libavcodec52 |
| 22:39.16 | judd | Package: libavcodec52 on i386 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.6-3; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.6-3; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.11-0.1 |
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| 22:39.52 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: that should work, I just need to strip leading ./ then expand all paths not starting with a / or ~ |
| 22:39.55 | lolcat2 | still... any easy way to force them lib6u thingies to get installed? :( this is for a small network of some importance. |
| 22:40.00 | nand` | I imagine there's some tool or function for this already |
| 22:40.01 | jelly-home | Xenguy: you will probably have to tell apt to downgrade libavcodec52 and others dependent on it to versions available in squeeze |
| 22:40.31 | lolcat2 | the keyboard is 15 yrs old by the way but not broken jelly-home |
| 22:40.32 | lolcat2 | :) |
| 22:40.56 | jelly-home | send the wine over to confirm the bug. |
| 22:41.01 | lolcat2 | hahahahahahah :D |
| 22:41.34 | lolcat2 | might do.. I only brewed 23 liters though this time around , tjihi.. just moved country.. back to my old equipment hence why this comp is well 15 yrs old ,p |
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| 22:42.17 | lolcat2 | (that is aboutish 8 galloons ) |
| 22:44.31 | ArchDuke | Unable to get my mic working - getting the following errors http://pastebin.com/HVeeaV01 |
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| 22:44.50 | jelly-home | if you have a macine on the internet, just download the debs manually |
| 22:44.56 | jelly-home | ,depends wireless-tools |
| 22:44.57 | judd | Package wireless-tools in squeeze/i386 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libiw30 (>= 30~pre1). |
| 22:45.17 | jelly-home | lolcat2: that one and its libiw30 and install using dpkg |
| 22:45.22 | jelly-home | just like the firmware |
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| 22:46.22 | Xenguy | jelly-home: OK here are the errors after disabling dmm repo, apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade: http://paste.debian.net/157708 |
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| 22:47.31 | lolcat2 | back: I tried hjelly,. but I get an error |
| 22:47.42 | lolcat2 | one sec |
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| 22:48.30 | lolcat2 | dep problems prevent conf |
| 22:48.32 | lolcat2 | basically |
| 22:48.43 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: Nah, you don't need to strip the leading ./, since ..././... == .../... |
| 22:48.57 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: alright |
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| 22:49.07 | lolcat2 | the thing is, the server I am installign is stand alone form net and has an old wifi usb adapter .. the firmaware loaded but wifi tools are not.. due to ther lib udeb deps |
| 22:49.10 | nand` | is /foo/~/bar still equal to /home/<name>/bar ? |
| 22:49.19 | lolcat2 | so I am a bit at a loss atm.. |
| 22:49.24 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: I don't think so |
| 22:49.26 | jelly-home | Xenguy: ok. now. use apt-cache policy libavcodec52 to see which version of it is available, and try installing that using something like apt-get install libavcodec52=4:0.5.6-3 |
| 22:49.29 | simonlnu | no |
| 22:49.42 | blast_hardcheese | yeah, ~ only expands at the beginning of a string |
| 22:49.55 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: Anyway, http://blast.hardchee.se/~/files/2012-02-26/aln.sh |
| 22:50.00 | lolcat2 | no nand` ~/bar is equal to /home/bar (link to absolute) |
| 22:50.18 | blast_hardcheese | lolcat2: No, it's equal to $HOME/bar |
| 22:50.24 | blast_hardcheese | ~bar would be /home/bar |
| 22:50.27 | simonlnu | what blast_hardcheese said |
| 22:50.33 | lolcat2 | but it is equal to /foo/home/bar however |
| 22:50.43 | blast_hardcheese | wat |
| 22:50.45 | lolcat2 | well, blast, I believe it was close enough in the context :) |
| 22:50.45 | simonlnu | no |
| 22:50.50 | lolcat2 | no? |
| 22:50.53 | blast_hardcheese | no |
| 22:50.58 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Alright, I'll look into that, sec |
| 22:51.03 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: looks neat, thanks |
| 22:51.11 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: Where do I place it? |
| 22:51.17 | lolcat2 | ah ok.. sorry .. I am archlinux more than debian (last time I was server deb was like erm 2000) so kinda rusty :/ |
| 22:51.19 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: no prob. .bashrc? |
| 22:51.24 | lolcat2 | (my apolologies) |
| 22:51.31 | lolcat2 | apologies , sigh |
| 22:51.42 | blast_hardcheese | lolcat2: Not a problem, but this is something that applies to all distros |
| 22:51.49 | blast_hardcheese | unless arch doesn't have home directories ;) |
| 22:51.54 | lolcat2 | true |
| 22:52.09 | simonlnu | nothing to do with debian |
| 22:52.30 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: Either .bashrc or .bash_profile, I have one linked to the other since I can never remember which is which. |
| 22:52.35 | lolcat2 | but I sitll thought I did proclaim a correct statement but I am distracted by my issue on debian to get my wifi working to continue network conf |
| 22:52.37 | lolcat2 | :) |
| 22:52.48 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: I've just created a file .bash_functions and included it from .bashrc for now :) |
| 22:53.02 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: Yeah, I've got ~/.bash_aliases, same deal :) |
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| 22:53.17 | nand` | Me too but I only use that for aliases |
| 22:53.21 | lolcat2 | (ps. home wine always will make an already debilitated pseudo-linuxer as myself rant in some arbitrary patterns lacking matching xD) |
| 22:53.28 | blast_hardcheese | Hmm, good point. |
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| 22:53.41 | blast_hardcheese | breaks out .bash_functions |
| 22:53.45 | nand` | then again, that could be considered an “alias” |
| 22:53.49 | nand` | just a very powerful one |
| 22:53.55 | miller_ss | hey guys. |
| 22:53.56 | lolcat2 | so... any eays way to get wifi tolls installed offline then? |
| 22:54.06 | lolcat2 | incl. udeb fail issues? |
| 22:54.17 | lolcat2 | tools, etc etc |
| 22:54.19 | mrtn | Am I correct that while soft link points to another file, hard link points to an inode? |
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| 22:54.25 | abrotman | lolcat2: /msg dpkg apt-zip |
| 22:54.34 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Output of 'apt-cache policy libavcodec52' is here: http://paste.debian.net/157709 |
| 22:54.38 | lolcat2 | thanks abrotman will post back |
| 22:54.57 | Xenguy | abrotman: Long time no see :-) |
| 22:55.06 | abrotman | hi Xenguy |
| 22:55.12 | Xenguy | abrotman: I think it's been years ;P |
| 22:55.15 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: Hmm, it doesn't seem to work as expected |
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| 22:55.34 | jelly-home | Xenguy: that's good, now the idea is to force the downgrade, and reduce the number of dependency issues caused by dmm |
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| 22:55.40 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: Oh? I did limited testing; aln -s foo /tmp/bar created /tmp/bar -> $(pwd)/foo for me |
| 22:55.49 | nand` | yes that works |
| 22:55.50 | abrotman | Xenguy: maybe a year? :) |
| 22:55.52 | lolcat2 | abrotman: the thing is I have a local dir with the deps of wireless tools (lib6.. x2) and I do a dpkg -i or --force but fail... |
| 22:56.03 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I am liking the way you think :-) |
| 22:56.14 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: What fails then? |
| 22:56.15 | Xenguy | abrotman: Probably just me, yeah :) |
| 22:56.33 | nand` | aln -st ~/foo bar bat baz doesn't work as expected, should create ~/foo/bar ~/foo/bat and ~/foo/baz pointing at $(pwd)/bar - baz |
| 22:56.59 | blast_hardcheese | Oh, right/ ~ |
| 22:57.08 | blast_hardcheese | forgot about that one. |
| 22:57.11 | blast_hardcheese | hold |
| 22:57.22 | jelly-home | ,versions transcode |
| 22:57.23 | judd | Package: transcode on i386 -- lenny-multimedia: 2:1.0.7-0.0; squeeze-multimedia: 3:1.1.5-0.7; sid: 3:1.1.5-1; wheezy-multimedia: 3:1.1.7-0.1; experimental: 3:1.1.7-1; sid-multimedia: 4:1.1.7-0.3 |
| 22:57.43 | jelly-home | Xenguy: you'll probably wantto remove that one for the time being |
| 22:57.46 | Xenguy | jelly-home: So just to be clear, I should just do a 'apt-get install libavcodec52' ? |
| 22:57.50 | dondelelcaro | nand`: uh... surely you mean ln -st ~/foo bar bat $(pwd)/baz ? |
| 22:58.06 | dondelelcaro | err, $(pwd)/bar bat baz; |
| 22:58.09 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Sorry, remove which? |
| 22:58.17 | jelly-home | Xenguy: apt-get install libavcodec52=4:0.5.6-3 |
| 22:58.32 | Xenguy | jelly-home: tx |
| 22:58.47 | nand` | dondelelcaro: That's the point of the aln script, it's meant to add $(pwd) to all appropriate arguments |
| 22:58.53 | jelly-home | Xenguy: [remove] transcode, and ffmpeg as well, judging from http://paste.debian.net/157708 |
| 22:58.54 | dondelelcaro | oh. I don't use aln. |
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| 22:59.21 | jelly-home | Xenguy: everything that needs libavcodec52 with epoch 5: |
| 22:59.31 | lolcat2 | http://batmat.net/apt-offline/ch3.html get no operations to execute so to speak, so doesn't follow the assumed pattern in the help guide abrotman |
| 22:59.36 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: take two |
| 22:59.37 | blast_hardcheese | http://blast.hardchee.se/~/files/2012-02-26/aln.sh |
| 22:59.42 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: It also fails on paths that need to be escaped. aln -s foo\ bar\ bat baz creates a number of broken links for me |
| 22:59.43 | blast_hardcheese | forgot this is what readlink -f does. |
| 22:59.47 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I was wondering about the best method of removing stuff at this point... |
| 22:59.48 | lolcat2 | dist upgrade 0 effect to impose |
| 22:59.48 | blast_hardcheese | Ooooh right |
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| 22:59.59 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Should I be using 'dpkg -r', or ...? |
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| 23:00.07 | jelly-home | Xenguy: yeah |
| 23:00.14 | dondelelcaro | blast_hardcheese: why don't you just use ln properly? |
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| 23:00.49 | blast_hardcheese | dondelelcaro: Does ln do this? |
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| 23:00.59 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Alright, I'm going to try removing those 2 you mentioned, and then apt-get the libavcodec52 |
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| 23:01.04 | lolcat2 | ok, re posting in other words: how would I successfully install package wireless-tools offline? |
| 23:01.05 | dondelelcaro | blast_hardcheese: it does if you call it properly |
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| 23:01.32 | blast_hardcheese | dondelelcaro: So, how would you call it? |
| 23:01.38 | jelly-home | "Dearest ln, please DWIM" |
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| 23:01.53 | lenswipe | hi guys |
| 23:02.13 | lenswipe | anyone know of any good pen testing software for debian? |
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| 23:02.30 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: Now it doesn't expand at all; /foo $ aln -st ~/test bar creates ~/test/bar pointing at “bar”, instead of /foo/bar as expected |
| 23:02.38 | abrotman | lolcat2: what? |
| 23:02.42 | gnarface | i think its time we all admit it, ln requires the arguments to be provided in the wrong order, period. |
| 23:02.48 | dondelelcaro | blast_hardcheese: if you need to make an absolute link, you specify an abosolute link. Otherwise, you use a relative link |
| 23:03.18 | dondelelcaro | blast_hardcheese: the way you're doing things now means that you'll generate broken links if you ever move the directories around |
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| 23:03.32 | lolcat2 | well I did the thing you said.. and I ended up doing the very first dist+upgrade and it just said nothing to do ... so I couldn't carry on in any logical way... so I ended up being at a loss |
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| 23:03.45 | blast_hardcheese | dondelelcaro: I understand this. |
| 23:03.50 | dondelelcaro | so... |
| 23:03.51 | nand` | dondelelcaro: I'm creating links to a read-only partition. That's the least of my worries |
| 23:03.55 | blast_hardcheese | This is why I'm not replacing ln entirely |
| 23:04.05 | lolcat2 | it annoyes me as it is such a simple operation but I simply lack the experience to sort something this mundane :/ |
| 23:04.26 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* |
| 23:04.27 | lolcat2 | (on this distro) |
| 23:04.28 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: http://blast.hardchee.se/~/files/2012-02-26/aln.sh ? |
| 23:04.29 | nand` | dondelelcaro: I just want to avoid having to type /mnt/C/Users/Nand/Desktop/foo/bar/bat/baz for every one of the ~200 links I'm creating |
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| 23:04.46 | blast_hardcheese | That should take care of the spaces issue |
| 23:04.51 | dondelelcaro | nand`: what are you creating links to? why not use a bind mount? |
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| 23:05.23 | dondelelcaro | nand`: why are you creating deep links instead of linking just to the head of the directory? |
| 23:05.33 | lolcat2 | nand`: it does sound like a shift and/or for loop |
| 23:05.46 | nand` | dondelelcaro: I have a big folder containing lots of things on an old (read-only) NTFS partition; I don't want to move these files around but I want to make them accessible to mpd; which lives inside its own “music” directory. So I'm creating symbolic links inside ~/music to the folders. I can't just create a link to the entire directory because it contains things that are not music (which mpd picks up |
| 23:05.48 | nand` | erroneously) |
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| 23:06.20 | Xenguy | jelly-home: OK, I removed 'transcode' and 'ffmpeg' successfully... |
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| 23:06.37 | Xenguy | jelly-home: and then ran 'apt-get install libavcodec52=4:0.5.6-3', and the errors ensued... |
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| 23:07.07 | lolcat2 | hahaah Psi-Jack OF CORSE YOU ARE DEBIAN |
| 23:07.11 | nand` | The alternative would be re-organizing the folder itself but it's on a read-only partition and I don't really want to touch it |
| 23:07.14 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Errors are pastebin'd here: http://paste.debian.net/157710 |
| 23:07.24 | dondelelcaro | nand`: hrm; do you have folders which only have music in them? |
| 23:07.36 | dondelelcaro | nand`: do you care about the hierarchical organization? |
| 23:07.36 | nand` | dondelelcaro: I have some, I've already symlinked those |
| 23:07.45 | nand` | dondelelcaro: What do you mean by that? |
| 23:07.54 | dondelelcaro | nand`: do you just want all the files linked? or what? |
| 23:08.06 | Xenguy | prepares an espresso... |
| 23:08.09 | nand` | dondelelcaro: I need the folders linked since, yes; and their contents should still have the same hierarchies |
| 23:08.10 | jelly-home | Xenguy: stupid apt. what about "apt-get remove libavcodec52"? |
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| 23:08.21 | jelly-home | probably similar... |
| 23:08.35 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I'll try that, sec |
| 23:08.45 | lolcat2 | thinks Xenguy better have one which makes 5 of em |
| 23:08.49 | lolcat2 | :) |
| 23:08.54 | lolcat2 | enough for two... |
| 23:09.04 | dondelelcaro | nand`: anyway, the general method is to do hopefully write a find routine which returns the set of directories to which you wish to link |
| 23:09.10 | Psi-Jack | Lolcat2, uhh yes. I do quite use Debian. |
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| 23:10.01 | nand` | dondelelcaro: I'd prefer to do the linking manually since the contents are often ambiguous and I want full control over which directories I link and which I don't |
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| 23:10.20 | nand` | either way, I'm already halfway through just using full paths + tab expansion, I suppose finishing it that way then never touching it will be faster than trying to write a script to do it |
| 23:10.22 | x4rkz | Hi |
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| 23:10.39 | lolcat2_ | Psi-Jack: yes I met you at linux though |
| 23:10.40 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: Does the recent version of aln work? |
| 23:10.43 | lolcat2_ | :) |
| 23:10.45 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: let me test it |
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| 23:10.56 | lolcat2_ | right.. coem on.. it canæt be this impoosible to get wiretolls installed on no network |
| 23:11.00 | lolcat2_ | wiretools |
| 23:11.03 | Xenguy | jelly-home: 'apt-get remove libavcodec52' looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/download/157711 |
| 23:11.03 | x4rkz | I'd like to configure my wifi, I've tried to dowload http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/i386/b43-fwcutter/download, put it on a USB key and install it with Gdebi but it still doesnt work |
| 23:11.11 | Psi-Jack | Lolcat2, and? I use many distros. |
| 23:11.22 | Xenguy | lolcat2_: no kidding right? ;-) |
| 23:11.36 | lolcat2_ | Xenguy: ,) anbd Psi-Jack just was saying:) |
| 23:11.47 | jelly-home | Xenguy: ha, so it's not installed at present at all |
| 23:11.57 | zane | x4rkz: you need to install the firmware files |
| 23:12.07 | zane | you have the b43? |
| 23:12.08 | lolcat2_ | you banned me after each and every question I had on disk performance pretty mucyh.. rememeber? (of cours eyou don't... girls cant ask crap in linux ,x) |
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| 23:12.33 | x4rkz | what do you mean ? I dont need http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/i386/b43-fwcutter/download ? |
| 23:12.35 | lolcat2_ | nvm was a fe wmonths ago.. I have a photographic memory , thats all |
| 23:12.41 | zane | lolcat2_: hahahahahahaha, state your case in ##linux-ops :-P |
| 23:12.55 | lolcat2_ | zane lol.. it didnt bother me.. those things never have :) |
| 23:12.57 | jelly-home | lolcat2_: can you move this to ##linux-ops or at least #debian-offtopic? |
| 23:13.00 | lolcat2_ | what must be. must be |
| 23:13.17 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: still fails on spaces, aln -s name\ with\ spaces ~/music creates ~/music/name ~/music/with and ~/music/spaces |
| 23:13.44 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: I think it's you don't re-escape when passing it to ln |
| 23:13.47 | lolcat2_ | sigh.. I am looking for a way to install wifi tools on that 15 yr old machine.. not anythign else.. I couldnt care less about other things.. so don't express statements which would imply it is so :p |
| 23:13.49 | nand` | it's because* |
| 23:13.52 | zane | x4rkz: there are firmware files that you need to extract and move to your file-system. why don't you just use the 'proprietary drivers' menu ? |
| 23:13.57 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I'm just going to brew an espresso, back in 5 or so |
| 23:14.09 | lolcat2_ | blah.. well I guess I will tinker along the :x |
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| 23:14.18 | jelly-home | Xenguy: I'll be going to bed soon. |
| 23:14.54 | jelly-home | Xenguy: I'd dpkg --remove libavdevice52 libavfilter1 libavformat52 libquicktime1, see how much breakage that "apt-get -f install" or "apt-get install dpkg apt" shows then |
| 23:15.19 | x4rkz | proprietary drivers menu ? |
| 23:15.40 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: what version of ubuntu are you using? |
| 23:15.49 | x4rkz | I'm using debian 6.xx |
| 23:15.55 | chaospsychex | x4rkzoh |
| 23:16.05 | chaospsychex | my bad, lol wrong channel |
| 23:16.23 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: one sec i will get a link with the commands you need to execute to get your wifi working |
| 23:16.30 | jelly-home | Xenguy: if dpkg complains of dependencies unsatisfied, you might have to use --auto-deconfigure |
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| 23:17.02 | ArchDuke | Unable to get my mic working - getting the following errors http://pastebin.com/HVeeaV01 |
| 23:17.12 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: http://blast.hardchee.se/~/files/2012-02-26/aln.sh |
| 23:17.15 | x4rkz | The thing is, right now I only can get the driver from my windows computer, I'd like to download what I need and put on the debian via usb device |
| 23:17.35 | blast_hardcheese | ln -vfs name\ with\ spaces /tmp/ creates /tmp/name\ with\ spaces |
| 23:17.45 | blast_hardcheese | err, aln @nand` |
| 23:18.13 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: ok on a sub stick download this file |
| 23:18.32 | mimoid | How do I get my luks/dmcrypt keys to be stored in the CPU's cache instead of RAM to defend against cold-boot attacks? |
| 23:18.49 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: yes that works |
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| 23:18.58 | boudiccas | x4rkz; why be so coy about what version of debian you are using? |
| 23:19.19 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2 |
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| 23:19.25 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: now only -t doesn't work as expected but that's not really an issue, this way is still much faster than before, thanks |
| 23:19.33 | x4rkz | what's the command to get more information about my debian ? |
| 23:19.38 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: copy that file to a folder in your home directory called 'b43' |
| 23:20.05 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: let me know once you are on the debian sys and have copied the file into a folder called b43 |
| 23:20.05 | cool_beans | Hey guys, I'm trying to install Debian on my laptop (is a bit old), and I get messages letting me know that additional firmware is required |
| 23:20.13 | boudiccas | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:20.27 | blast_hardcheese | nand`: Ah, crap, I've never used -t. Back to the drawing board :) |
| 23:20.27 | cool_beans | if I skip those messages, does Debian have something like an automatic additional driver detector kind of like Ubuntu? |
| 23:21.14 | x4rkz | ok, I use 2 differente computers so its almost done |
| 23:21.21 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: ok |
| 23:21.39 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: on the debian system open up a terminal and navigate to the b43 folder |
| 23:21.47 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: It just reverses the arguments (well not really, but the target is specified after -t) |
| 23:22.01 | nand` | oh, I can link multiple files without -t as well |
| 23:22.03 | nand` | let me test that |
| 23:22.07 | cool_beans | I'm only asking this question because I'm trying to figure out if Debian is right for me. |
| 23:22.37 | x4rkz | cp fileToCopy dirToCopy ? |
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| 23:22.58 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: are you inside gnome? |
| 23:23.04 | boudiccas | x4rkz; well? |
| 23:23.23 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: just do these commands exactly |
| 23:23.27 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: open a terminal |
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| 23:23.42 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: you'll hate to hear it but creating multiple symlinks with aln still fails :P aln foo\ bar bat\ baz ~/music should create ~/music/foo\ bar and ~/music/bat\ baz but instead I get a ln error about no such file |
| 23:23.57 | x4rkz | yes I am on gnome |
| 23:23.58 | cool_beans | Can anyone help me? |
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| 23:24.03 | jelly-home | cool_beans: Debian will only provide you with free drivers at start. If your hardware needs additional non-free drivers, some manual work will need to be done. |
| 23:24.22 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: copy the file you downloaded from the usb stick into a folder in your home directory and name the folder b43 |
| 23:24.43 | chaospsychex | go into the b43 folder and right click on the file you downloaded and click 'extract here' |
| 23:25.09 | jelly-home | cool_beans: while debian's wiki, or this channel, can help with that, it's not nearly as straightforward and simple as in Ubuntu. |
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| 23:25.18 | x4rkz | I did it |
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| 23:25.21 | Xenguy | jelly-home: back |
| 23:25.37 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: open a terminal and 'cd b43' |
| 23:25.47 | boudiccas | x4rkz; so what version of debian are you using? |
| 23:25.50 | x4rkz | except the exctraction |
| 23:26.00 | x4rkz | I need the command to do it |
| 23:26.02 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: right click the file and select extract here |
| 23:26.13 | x4rkz | bouddiccas: whazt command could give me more information about debian |
| 23:26.15 | boudiccas | x4rkz; i've already told you |
| 23:26.17 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: I won't perform any further testing, done with my linking :P |
| 23:26.25 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Can you give an example of using "--auto-deconfigure", I'm not familiar with that |
| 23:26.25 | nand` | blast_hardcheese: but thanks either way, aln helped speed up the rest |
| 23:26.36 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: or you can use 'tar xjf filename' |
| 23:26.42 | x4rkz | there's only extract to, and I have permission denied, I need to use terminal |
| 23:26.44 | jelly-home | Xenguy: you'd just add it to dpkg --remove |
| 23:26.45 | boudiccas | x4rkz; cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:26.53 | Xenguy | jelly-home: OK |
| 23:27.01 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: open terminal and type 'su' |
| 23:27.01 | jelly-home | if needed. |
| 23:27.06 | Xenguy | jelly-home: And thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it |
| 23:27.27 | x4rkz | I already typed su |
| 23:27.52 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: then type 'tar xjf filename' once you start to type the 'broadcom' as the filename if you hit TAB it will auto-complete for you |
| 23:28.00 | x4rkz | 6.0.4 |
| 23:28.13 | boudiccas | x4rkz; thank you, finally! |
| 23:28.16 | x4rkz | I know some of these stuff (TAB) but ty |
| 23:28.23 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: once it's extracted a folder will be created, cd into the folder |
| 23:28.35 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: then cd into the 'driver' folder |
| 23:29.10 | x4rkz | tar ... print a lot of strange caracters but dont do anything |
| 23:29.11 | rednovae | when i try to "apt-get remove portmap" |
| 23:29.20 | rednovae | it looks like apt is trying to reinstall portmap |
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| 23:29.35 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: do you have root priveleges? |
| 23:29.42 | rednovae | it attempt to connect to a package repo, and because the machine isn't connected to the internet, this fails |
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| 23:30.01 | x4rkz | yes |
| 23:30.26 | x4rkz | wai |
| 23:30.39 | x4rkz | timeout privileges, I typed su again and it worked |
| 23:30.45 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: ok |
| 23:30.51 | x4rkz | t |
| 23:30.54 | x4rkz | so I cd broad.../driver ? |
| 23:30.59 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: yes |
| 23:31.13 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: once inside the /driver folder type this command |
| 23:31.13 | boudiccas | its like getting blood from a stone! |
| 23:31.15 | abrotman | rednovae: use a pastebin to show us |
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| 23:32.36 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: b43 -fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta_mimo.o |
| 23:32.51 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: ooops |
| 23:33.02 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta_mimo.o is the correct command |
| 23:33.13 | rednovae | abrotman http://paste2.org/p/1917026 |
| 23:33.42 | x4rkz | then ? |
| 23:33.57 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: restart networkmanager with this command |
| 23:33.59 | abrotman | rednovae: shows it being removed ... |
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| 23:34.22 | Xenguy | jelly-home: 3 out of 4 removed fine: http://paste.debian.net/157722 |
| 23:34.36 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: i forget how to restart it, just 'pkill networkmanager' then 'networkmanager' |
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| 23:35.06 | x4rkz | networkmanager command not found |
| 23:35.24 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: type this as root 'pkill gdm3' |
| 23:35.31 | abrotman | wtf |
| 23:35.47 | jelly-home | Xenguy: mjpegtools also comes from dmm, get rid of it temporarily as well |
| 23:35.53 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: then back in |
| 23:36.01 | chaospsychex | gdm3 will automatically restart |
| 23:36.09 | x4rkz | how can I "back in" ? |
| 23:36.22 | themill | hopes chaospsychex carefully explained about the loss of data that will entail |
| 23:36.38 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: just reboot the debian sys |
| 23:37.02 | abrotman | wtf |
| 23:37.18 | x4rkz | so why did u make me type pkill gdm3 ? wasnt reboot enough ? |
| 23:37.39 | Xenguy | jelly-home: most def, I'll try to remove anything that is dependent on libquicktime1 |
| 23:37.39 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: yes |
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| 23:38.00 | cool_beans | jelly-home: thanks for the info, appreciate it! |
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| 23:38.18 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: when you log back in to gnome wifi should be working |
| 23:38.32 | x4rkz | Yes it is |
| 23:38.37 | x4rkz | thank you |
| 23:38.47 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: now give me a cookie for spoon feeding you! :-p |
| 23:38.51 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: you welcome |
| 23:38.56 | Xenguy | jelly-home: success, all 4 packages are removed now |
| 23:39.02 | abrotman | it was your choice to spoon feed him .. that's your fault |
| 23:39.17 | chaospsychex | abrotman: lol, i was playing with him. i don't mind, really |
| 23:39.27 | x4rkz | I modified /etc/network/interfaces before |
| 23:39.29 | abrotman | wasn't even a good spoon feeding |
| 23:39.33 | x4rkz | so I works at start |
| 23:39.43 | chaospsychex | abrotman: you didn't like the 'pkill gdm3' ?? lol |
| 23:39.54 | chaospsychex | abrotman: his wifi is working... |
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| 23:40.38 | x4rkz | but ping googlem.com -> unknown host googlem.com |
| 23:40.47 | x4rkz | google* |
| 23:40.59 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: are you connected to the wifi network? |
| 23:41.43 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: does /etc/network/interfaces show wlan0 as 'unmanaged' ? |
| 23:42.07 | x4rkz | network managed told me I was, I reconnected manually and it works now |
| 23:42.18 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: weird, ok though |
| 23:43.06 | x4rkz | mb I miss programmed the interfaces file |
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| 23:43.25 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Hrm, tried 'apt-get -f install' and 'apt-get install dpkg apt', and pretty similar error output as compared with previous pastebins... |
| 23:43.27 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: ahhh |
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| 23:43.52 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I'm going to try to uninstall any other dmm related stuff that I can spot/see |
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| 23:45.08 | jelly-home | Xenguy: what about "aptitude -f install"? |
| 23:45.22 | x4rkz-debian | # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # Carte Wifi auto wlan0 iface wlan0 pre-up ifconfig wlan0 up pre-up iwpriv wlan0 set AuthMod=WPAPSK pre-up iwpriv wlan0 set EncryptType=TKIP pre-up config wlan0 essid "Freebox-A358F0" pre-up iwpriv wlan0 set WPAPSK="danice-adjunget-carnificat." |
| 23:45.26 | x4rkz-debian | sorry there's no space |
| 23:45.31 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I don't think aptitude is yet installed, but let me try anyway, sec |
| 23:46.09 | Xenguy | jelly-home: As I thought: bash: aptitude: command not found |
| 23:46.40 | x4rkz | I disconnect with the windows computer |
| 23:46.53 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I think aptitude needs apt, and apt depends on something else(?) |
| 23:47.01 | chaospsychex | x4rkz: oh ok |
| 23:47.26 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Also apt is conflicting with python-apt :-/ |
| 23:48.17 | jelly-home | Xenguy: can you show the current "apt-get -f install" output? |
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| 23:49.22 | Xenguy | jelly-home: OK, 1 sec |
| 23:49.39 | x4rkz-debian | still here on debian, anything wrong with my file ? |
| 23:50.22 | abrotman | if you're using network-manager, it may not be consulting that file |
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| 23:50.59 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Latest output is here: http://paste.debian.net/157725 |
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| 23:52.50 | Xenguy | jelly-home: I assume I should try to get rid of 'gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg' for example, as it too depends on libavcodec52 ? |
| 23:54.19 | Xenguy | jelly-home: libmediastreamer0 is also dependent on libavcodec52 I note |
| 23:55.14 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Also libmjpegtools-1.9 |
| 23:55.39 | anigma | I'm trying to set up two public IPs on my Debian box. I followed these guidelines: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_One_Interface - This is how /network/interfaces looks like: http://pastebin.com/Eec1edSA and this is what the output of "ifconfig" is: http://pastebin.com/73XXGbwk - Anything wrong here? I can't ping to it either. |
| 23:56.47 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Also vlc-nox |
| 23:57.09 | Diopter | Ugh, aliased interfaces. |
| 23:57.21 | jelly-home | Xenguy: no, you just want to get rid of packages that depend on versions from dmm. Anything depending on 4:0.5.6-3 or lower is fine |
| 23:57.36 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Ahh, I see |
| 23:58.04 | civillian | anigma: iptables policy? |
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| 23:58.40 | Xenguy | jelly-home: Are there any other packages you see in the errors that I would be advised to remove? |
| 23:59.33 | Diopter | anigma: You really should be using the "ip" tool from iproute2, and not making aliased interfaces. What does the output of "ip a" show? |
