| 00:01.09 | phorce1 | kba: investigate nxserver/nxclient I'm not sure if they're in debian because I install the packages from the NoMachine website |
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| 00:04.54 | p01s0nb1t | BlueG: still with the changing colors thing? |
| 00:05.45 | p01s0nb1t | see this: tail -5 /usr/share/doc/grub-common/examples/grub.cfg maybe you need just that lines in 40_custom |
| 00:06.04 | LinuxGuy2009 | Hey guys I bought a MAudio MobilePre audio recording interface. Its a USB device. I installed the pulseaudio package and selected this device as the input and output device. I'm trying to get YouTube videos to play through it cause thats what my studio monitors are plugged into. However flash doesnt seem to play out of them. Is there something I missed? |
| 00:06.47 | unforgiven512 | Flash is a pain in the ass. |
| 00:07.30 | unforgiven512 | I know it should be possible; try installing the pulse extras, like padevchooser |
| 00:07.42 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok Ill check that out |
| 00:07.53 | unforgiven512 | And use it to set your USB device as the default output device. |
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| 00:08.26 | unforgiven512 | Also, I think flash might use ALSA |
| 00:08.42 | p01s0nb1t | I use a iceweasel addon called "FlashVideoReplacer" that allows to see youtube in vlc (and other options) |
| 00:08.57 | unforgiven512 | There's a pulse ALSA plugin in the repos; that may help as well. |
| 00:09.14 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok thats something else to check. cool. |
| 00:09.23 | unforgiven512 | (I'm pretty sure, at least.) |
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| 00:10.18 | unforgiven512 | PA is actually rather complex (and rather extensible and flexible.) |
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| 00:17.34 | wolfric | is there anyway to view all bugs for all packages? |
| 00:17.56 | wolfric | well not all of them at once, paginated or only the latest |
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| 00:19.14 | wolfric | ah wait sorry nvm, i see the "newest bugs" option |
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| 00:29.39 | KindOne | where are the kernal headers stored? |
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| 00:33.36 | BlueG | I could swear I had tried this earlier... but all you have to do is put "set color_normal=color/color" etc in 40_custom |
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| 00:33.58 | BlueG | maybe I forgot to update-grub2 after I tried that the first time or something |
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| 00:34.15 | kripz | how can i get more meaningful dmesg log times? |
| 00:34.16 | nkuttler | KindOne: did you install some? |
| 00:34.34 | dmbaturin | KindOne: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 00:34.49 | BlueG | It doesn't need to be 'echo "set color_normal=color/color"' |
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| 00:38.55 | gnarface | ok i wonder if anyone has the answer to this off the top of their heads: i made a bunch of packages and checked them into a repo i also made (with reprepro) |
| 00:39.08 | gnarface | then one of my co-workers made two packages and put them in and they broke the repo |
| 00:39.24 | gnarface | specifically this is the error: E: Problem parsing dependency Depends |
| 00:39.35 | gnarface | actually there's 4 lines of errors but that's the first one |
| 00:39.40 | gnarface | it shows up all over ubuntu forums |
| 00:39.52 | gnarface | did this guy make ubuntu packages and hand them to me? |
| 00:39.54 | gnarface | or what? |
| 00:40.13 | gnarface | the error goes away if i remove the package, comes back if i put it back in |
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| 00:40.29 | gnarface | is this something i can fix in the package simply or should i just do it over for him? |
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| 00:49.02 | themill | gnarface: can you pastebin the Packages file? or at least the stanza of the Packages file that relates to that package? |
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| 00:57.27 | Mandor | I've got a Debian box, reasonably up to date on patches, where a bunch of keys have suddenly stopped working. |
| 00:57.40 | Mandor | Both on X and the console. |
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| 00:58.06 | Mandor | Both via the built-in keyboard (it's a laptop) and via USB keyboard. |
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| 00:58.40 | Mandor | This includes the "e" key, the control keys, the alt keys, and the shift keys. |
| 00:58.50 | Mandor | I haven't rebooted. |
| 00:58.52 | Mandor | Help? |
| 00:59.27 | Mandor | This is Debian 6.0.4. |
| 01:00.21 | Mandor | Advice? |
| 01:00.52 | Mandor | I can ssh into the system and run commands. |
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| 01:12.34 | LtL | Mandor: you might find something helpful here, http://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard |
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| 01:18.46 | gnarface | ok guys is there an easy tool to edit the dependencies for a deb file? |
| 01:18.54 | gnarface | or do i pretty much have to create one from scratch to have that control? |
| 01:19.05 | nkuttler | gnarface: what are you trying to do? |
| 01:19.14 | gnarface | nkuttler: i'm trying to fix a broken package |
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| 01:19.39 | nkuttler | gnarface: not sure what that means. there's equivs for example |
| 01:19.44 | gnarface | nkuttler: i believe that the problem is someone created this with an empty Depends: field and now apt-get chokes every time i try to update from that repo |
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| 01:20.02 | gnarface | nkuttler: no i just need to fix a literal syntax error (empty Depends field) |
| 01:20.07 | gnarface | nkuttler: at least that's what i think the issue is |
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| 01:21.09 | nkuttler | gnarface: hrm, you could just try to extract the deb, edit the file, repack and dpkg -i ? |
| 01:22.28 | burd | If anyone from yesterday is interested, I can verify that wheezy partitioned the 3TB drive flawlessly, unlike squeeze |
| 01:22.37 | burd | the wheezy installer, sorry |
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| 01:25.25 | gnarface | nkuttler: how do i unpack a deb and repack it? is it just a cpio renamed like rpms are? |
| 01:25.30 | gnarface | nkuttler: or is it something else? |
| 01:25.54 | nkuttler | gnarface: ar |
| 01:25.55 | kevlarman | gnarface: ar |
| 01:26.03 | gnarface | thanks |
| 01:26.14 | nkuttler | gnarface: not sure though if dpkg would be happy about md5sum changes |
| 01:26.19 | gnarface | hmm |
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| 01:26.24 | gnarface | maybe i should just get the source and do it over |
| 01:26.35 | nkuttler | sure |
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| 01:32.15 | simonlnu | there's dpkg-repack |
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| 01:39.04 | bfig | hello, i'm trying to compile the examples at libsdl-1.3-dev . i haven't been able to do it. the compiler line i'm using: gcc examplealpha.c -o testcompilation -lSDL . i'm getting a "fatal error: SDL.h: no such file or directory" |
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| 01:39.29 | bfig | i've just downloaded the libsdl-1.3-dev package, so it probably is the compiler line, but what should i write instead? |
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| 01:41.17 | tdtusb | can anyone tell me how to install dillo-3.0.2-1 on squeeze? |
| 01:42.05 | bfig | tdn, apt-get install dillo ? |
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| 01:47.06 | tdtusb | bfig, that did not work because dillo-3.0.2-1 is not on the wheeze repo |
| 01:47.27 | simonlnu | squeeze, wheezy |
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| 01:49.18 | bfig | tdtusb, you should be able to do it changing the sources or just using wget + dpkg, right? |
| 01:49.55 | tdtusb | changing the sources? |
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| 01:50.35 | tdtusb | wget + dpkg? will not take care of dependencies or conflicting ones |
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| 02:00.18 | randomenduser | hello, just out of curiosity; when will vim 7.3 make it into stable? |
| 02:01.30 | p01s0nb1t | when wheezy turns stable maybe |
| 02:02.24 | p01s0nb1t | ,versions vim |
| 02:02.25 | judd | Package: vim on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.1.314-3+lenny2; squeeze: 2:7.2.445+hg~cb94c42c0e1a-1; sid: 2:7.3.429-2; wheezy: 2:7.3.429-2 |
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| 02:04.19 | randomenduser | ok thanks |
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| 02:15.37 | Lint | bfig, and when -Isomething? |
| 02:15.48 | Lint | *where's |
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| 02:16.08 | bfig | Lint, i've managed to do it with `sdl-config ... ` |
| 02:16.24 | bfig | that probably works too |
| 02:16.48 | bfig | only i couldn't find the sdl.h file (not with apt-cache search or dpkg -S) |
| 02:17.01 | bfig | i was most likely doing something wrong |
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| 02:23.15 | nsadmin | bfig, try with packages.debian.org or pkg apt-file |
| 02:23.31 | nsadmin | or... |
| 02:23.42 | nsadmin | , file sdl.h |
| 02:23.49 | judd | Search for sdl.h in squeeze/i386: libcsound64-dev: usr/include/csound/csdl.h; libpt-1.10.10-dev: usr/include/ptclib/vsdl.h; libpt-dev: usr/include/ptclib/vsdl.h; python3.1-dev: usr/include/python3.1/asdl.h; python2.6-dev: usr/include/python2.6/asdl.h; python2.5-dbg: usr/include/python2.5_d/asdl.h; libplib-dev: usr/include/plib/puSDL.h; libsdl1.2-dev: usr/include/SDL/SDL.h; |
| 02:23.50 | judd | python2.6-dbg: usr/include/python2.6_d/asdl.h; python3.1-dbg: usr/include/python3.1_d/asdl.h; python2.5-dev: usr/include/python2.5/asdl.h; libpt2.4.5-dev: usr/include/ptclib/vsdl.h; libclanlib-dev: usr/include/ClanLib-1.0/ClanLib/SDL/setupsdl.h, usr/include/ClanLib-1.0/ClanLib/sdl.h |
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| 02:25.47 | gnarface | that's not gonna work nsadmin cause its SDL.h |
| 02:25.52 | gnarface | ,file SDL.h |
| 02:25.58 | judd | Search for SDL.h in squeeze/i386: libcsound64-dev: usr/include/csound/csdl.h; libpt-1.10.10-dev: usr/include/ptclib/vsdl.h; libpt-dev: usr/include/ptclib/vsdl.h; python3.1-dev: usr/include/python3.1/asdl.h; python2.6-dev: usr/include/python2.6/asdl.h; python2.5-dbg: usr/include/python2.5_d/asdl.h; libplib-dev: usr/include/plib/puSDL.h; libsdl1.2-dev: usr/include/SDL/SDL.h; |
| 02:25.59 | judd | python2.6-dbg: usr/include/python2.6_d/asdl.h; python3.1-dbg: usr/include/python3.1_d/asdl.h; python2.5-dev: usr/include/python2.5/asdl.h; libpt2.4.5-dev: usr/include/ptclib/vsdl.h; libclanlib-dev: usr/include/ClanLib-1.0/ClanLib/SDL/setupsdl.h, usr/include/ClanLib-1.0/ClanLib/sdl.h |
| 02:26.10 | gnarface | oh it did work, there it is |
| 02:26.29 | gnarface | bfig: you want libsdl1.2-dev |
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| 02:28.02 | nsadmin | never seen judd put multiple lines for listings before right now |
| 02:29.29 | bfig | gnarface, better than libsdl1.3? |
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| 02:30.06 | bfig | i was just trying libsdl1.2 because i saw it in some tutorial which looked like a blast from the 90's |
| 02:30.37 | nsadmin | well which one do you want? (and for which purpose)? |
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| 02:31.03 | nsadmin | if you want to follow that tutorial, I think your instincts are great... use 1.2 |
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| 02:31.32 | frewsxcv | my wireless drivers are supposedly supported already with linux http://goo.gl/pmHeS but i don't think the module is loaded. any ideas? |
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| 02:31.55 | bfig | dunno, what would you suggest? i'm not really interested in following that tutorial... i'm just getting ahead of my course in computer graphics and getting all this paraphernalia solved before it becomes a burden |
| 02:32.39 | nsadmin | that's a good idea too; I'd suggest to find a set of tools that all work together |
| 02:33.06 | nsadmin | frewsxcv, find out if the mogule is loaded :) |
| 02:33.25 | frewsxcv | nsadmin: how do i check? |
| 02:33.36 | frewsxcv | modinfo rtl8192se returns nothing |
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| 02:33.55 | nsadmin | there are module commands, insmod, rmmod, modprobe, lsmod |
| 02:34.03 | nsadmin | the last one might be interesting here |
| 02:34.22 | NishaKitty | does anyone know how to make iceweasels tabs look better? |
| 02:34.25 | nsadmin | (but you should probably become familiar with all of them) |
| 02:34.31 | NishaKitty | (not with oxygen theme for firefox please) |
| 02:34.46 | nsadmin | NishaKitty, rose-colored glasses? :) |
| 02:34.50 | frewsxcv | nsadmin: doesn't look look lke it's loaded |
| 02:35.06 | NishaKitty | nsadmin: useful answers would be nice |
| 02:35.28 | nsadmin | ok, it may also be the case that module is also not installed with your kernel? |
| 02:35.52 | nsadmin | could you lspci -nn and find the line for your wireless (don't forget the -nn) |
| 02:36.04 | frewsxcv | 09:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8172] (rev 10) |
| 02:36.26 | nsadmin | NishaKitty, well, I dunno... you could try configuring the tabs in various ways |
| 02:37.30 | nsadmin | I'm not a graphic designer, nor do I know if I'd make a good one... if you're noticing something like that, you might be |
| 02:37.39 | LtL | judd: pciid 10ec:8172 |
| 02:37.40 | judd | [10ec:8172] is 'RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with no known kernel module in squeeze but has kernel module 'rtl8192se' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8172 http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 02:38.06 | nsadmin | hmm. |
| 02:38.09 | nsadmin | ,kernels |
| 02:38.10 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.2.0-1-686-pae (3.2.7-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-1-686-pae (3.2.6-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.2.4-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-41); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 02:38.26 | nsadmin | what's your uname -r? |
| 02:38.52 | frewsxcv | 2.6.39-2-amd64 |
| 02:39.02 | gnarface | bfig: well sdl 1.2 is the latest version in sid, which is debian unstable. generally when i'm working with new software i try to NOT go with something that's too unstable for debian unstable, but if you know what you're doing its not dangerous. (if you don't, you could easily hose your install - make a backup) |
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| 02:39.35 | nsadmin | would you like to try the 3.2.0 backport? |
| 02:40.02 | frewsxcv | oh wait, let me restart. i just realized grub didn't have my 3.x kernel as an option |
| 02:40.07 | frewsxcv | so i've been booting into 2.6.x |
| 02:40.08 | frewsxcv | restarts |
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| 02:49.24 | frewsxcv | yep that did it |
| 02:49.53 | nsadmin | frewsxcv, cool... so what's your uname -r now? |
| 02:50.03 | nsadmin | and, is your wireless working now? |
| 02:50.25 | frewsxcv | also, i am dualbooting two different distros. i have two separate /boot partitions (one per distro). is there a way i can set which one should be default? |
| 02:50.30 | frewsxcv | nsadmin: 3.0.0-1-amd64 |
| 02:50.33 | frewsxcv | and it's working |
| 02:51.34 | nsadmin | very cool :) |
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| 02:54.45 | somiaj | can't seem to get my wireless to connect to an open network (at a hotel), neither using /etc/network/interfaces or even wicd I cannot get a dhcp lease back. Can't seem to figure out what to do to get a lease back, I have the essid set up correctly. |
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| 02:55.34 | somiaj | frewsxcv: debian has a package called os-prober which does scan though the different partitions/etc and sets up grub options for other oses |
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| 03:21.37 | gnarface | apt-get -b source [package name] succeeds |
| 03:21.51 | bfig | gnarface, i installed 1.2 then :) . Thanks for explaining this :) |
| 03:22.02 | gnarface | but if i just apt-get source [package name] then make a change to something in /debian then it fails to build... what am i doing wrong here? |
| 03:22.11 | gnarface | bfig: np, good luck |
| 03:23.11 | gnarface | bfig: people who make software always want you using the very latest version of their software - in practice people who distribute software find this to often be overzealous |
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| 03:24.53 | bfig | agreed, i didn't know 1.3 was unstable. however, let's agree that sometimes the updates take a *lot* of time to come to a stable version |
| 03:25.17 | bfig | in this case i want to be as compatible as possible, this thing i'll program's gotta run in window$ |
| 03:26.07 | gnarface | bfig: its difficult because "unstable" can mean a lot of different things depending on who you ask |
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| 03:28.21 | bfig | i've found debian wheezy to be remarkably stable.. but there are some artifacts with locales and my laptop keyboard that piss me off and occur sometimes |
| 03:28.47 | bfig | but i think that's not related to wheezy, it's just xfce4 and the locale system doing weird things to my keyboard |
| 03:31.03 | gnarface | in debian speak "stable" refers to the API remaining unchanged |
| 03:31.09 | gnarface | not necessarily to whether it crashes or not |
| 03:31.23 | gnarface | although stable API's lead to more stable systems |
| 03:31.47 | bfig | that's very reasonable. i always thought they were related to security |
| 03:32.11 | bfig | ie, have been tested for most known attacks somewhat extensively |
| 03:32.40 | gnarface | hmm. |
| 03:32.56 | gnarface | well security updates are pretty much all the stable branch gets |
| 03:33.03 | gnarface | or fixes for severe bugs |
| 03:33.33 | gnarface | i note that the sdl wiki appears to have ditched all mention of 1.3 in favor of docs for migration from 1.2 to 2.0 |
| 03:33.54 | gnarface | that may have something to do with why 1.3 doesn't seem to have made it to sid yet |
| 03:34.16 | gnarface | and may mean it won't at all |
| 03:34.21 | gnarface | i'm not really in the loop on that one though |
| 03:34.36 | gnarface | lots of stuff depends on sdl and 1.3 may break things |
| 03:34.46 | gnarface | that's another common reason for delays |
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| 03:37.56 | unomystEz | anyone know of a secure (communications and storage) alternative to dropbox? any opinions on spideroak? |
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| 03:40.12 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah unom cloud |
| 03:40.36 | unomystEz | M4dH4TT3r: ? |
| 03:40.37 | cardamon | unomystEz: My opinion is that the only "secure" solution is to host both sides of the exchange. Barring that, encrypt the data. Don't look to another party to do that work for you. |
| 03:40.59 | unomystEz | SpiderOak stores the files encrypted |
| 03:41.13 | cardamon | unomystEz: You can encrypt them yourself before you store them. |
| 03:41.25 | unomystEz | cardamon: there are drawbacks to that approach however |
| 03:41.30 | cardamon | And decide how they're encrypted. |
| 03:41.42 | unomystEz | ie, access via mobile phone, etc.. |
| 03:42.41 | cardamon | unomystEz: You can always put up a webhost. But yes, there are drawbacks. |
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| 03:47.08 | xperia | hi to all. i have a small question related to iptables and the broken loopback on my router. this here is the iptables listing => http://pastebin.com/Qj9xGRdm |
| 03:47.10 | xperia | I am not able to access the server inside the Lan itself. from the Wan it works. Can anybody tell me why the above iptables breaks the loopback and how to fix it? |
| 03:48.07 | xperia | i am not that iptables pro to understand all that rules. need becouse of this a little help especially also with optimising the iptables |
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| 04:34.54 | Mr_Queue | unomystEz: spideroak I hear great things about. |
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| 04:35.57 | Mr_Queue | xperia: paste is gone |
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| 04:36.52 | somiaj | trying to connect to an open wireless network (at a hotel) but I can't get a DHCP response, anything I can do to dhclient to help wi this(even wicd cannot get a response) |
| 04:38.39 | Mr_Queue | somiaj: Doesn't sound like a end user problem. |
| 04:38.54 | Mr_Queue | Ask the front desk to reboot it. |
| 04:39.19 | gnarface | hmm. i had trouble getting a DHCP response 9/10 times recently with a open wireless network |
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| 04:39.32 | somiaj | Mr_Queue: all other laptops inthis room connect just fine |
| 04:39.36 | Mr_Queue | Have a smart phone? Can it get online via wifi? |
| 04:39.53 | gnarface | i ended up chalking it up to a really slow old (p2-266) laptop and a really impatient wifi device - 1/10 times it'd work |
| 04:40.21 | somiaj | Mr_Queue: I have this issue with other open networks on my debian laptop, have had this issue for a long time, it just rarely is an issue (I am very rarely on some open network) |
| 04:40.22 | Mr_Queue | somiaj: humm perhaps you have the same ssid in history with a wrong mac address? |
| 04:40.29 | somiaj | both wep and wpa networks I don't have issues with |
| 04:40.55 | Mr_Queue | Blow them all out of known AP's and try again. |
| 04:41.24 | somiaj | Mr_Queue: what do you mean, how do I do that. I basically use /etc/network/interfaces and have the following lines |
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| 04:44.08 | Mr_Queue | somiaj: find previous networks you've connected to and remove them. |
| 04:44.37 | somiaj | Mr_Queue: iface alias inet dhcp\nwireless-essid foo\nwireless-mode Managed |
| 04:44.38 | somiaj | Mr_Queue: remove them from what? |
| 04:44.49 | Mr_Queue | If your at a hotel using something stupid like linksys and you have a linksys in history, well there could be a problem. |
| 04:45.26 | somiaj | well this s a unique ssid that I have never used before, but I still don't see what you are saying to flush my history |
| 04:45.28 | Mr_Queue | I got to run, but I have a feeling you're way over thinking this, and that's the problem. |
| 04:45.32 | somiaj | I don't use a network-manager |
| 04:45.47 | Mr_Queue | Maybe you should, lol. |
| 04:45.52 | Mr_Queue | any how, back later. |
| 04:46.27 | somiaj | gnarface: I think it is bad drivers for my wireless card, wicd lags my whole computer cause of it (and sometimes crashes it ) |
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| 04:47.53 | somiaj | I was just hoping it was some configuration I could do wth dhclient to improve things |
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| 04:50.52 | Rusty1 | somiaj: tried starting dhclient with -nw ? |
| 04:51.18 | somiaj | Rusty1: is there a way to do that form the interfaces file? |
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| 04:52.23 | aBound | I'm curious to know how stable is Debian is it a rock solid distribution? |
| 04:52.44 | Rusty1 | somiaj: i havent done it that way, but when troubleshooting it has helped |
| 04:53.12 | somiaj | aBound: it is frozen in the sense that the packages versions don't recive feature upgrades, they only recive bug and security fixes. So security holes are backported to debian stable |
| 04:53.32 | somiaj | aBound: it also undergoes lots of testing and all dependencies and the likes work well if you stay within the debian stable repo |
| 04:53.34 | Rusty1 | man 5 dhclient.conf |
| 04:53.48 | somiaj | Rusty1: yea I was looking at it, thanks |
| 04:54.27 | Rusty1 | somiaj: what chipset, and kernel? |
| 04:54.41 | aBound | Hmm, thinking about giving it a try but seems it might be best I wait till a newer release arrives. |
| 04:55.12 | aBound | somiaj, Is it possible to upgrade Debian's kernel or would it not but ideal to do so if it's possible. |
| 04:55.13 | somiaj | Rusty1: RTL8188CE - running 3.2 amd64 kernel |
| 04:55.28 | somiaj | aBound: via backports you can install newer software backported to stables core depends |
| 04:56.18 | somiaj | aBound: kernels are common in squeeze-backports, so that is easy to do. Only issue is you don't get security support for those kernels (if a hole is found you'll have to upgrade to a newer backported kernel and this may be slower than the security for the debian squeeze stalk kernel) |
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| 04:57.09 | somiaj | aBound: backports is also the way to deal with a few applications you may want slighty newer version than stable has. Though this leads to the above issues, security updates may be an issue, and the backports are not as tested as the actual stable system for stablity |
| 04:57.59 | aBound | Interesting to know. |
| 04:58.10 | Rusty1 | somiaj: been having difficulties with wicd and 3.2, ralink usb n150 , wicd wouldnt auth , nm-applet (strted from terminal) seems to be ok |
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| 04:58.57 | Rusty1 | started from terminal cause fluxbox doesnt seem to have it in menu tree |
| 04:59.10 | Rusty1 | amd64 |
| 04:59.39 | aBound | somiaj, One last thing say if I needed to update the system is there such a utility or do I have to go through getting backports? |
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| 05:02.00 | Rusty1 | somiaj: hooked up a non-encrypted router, wicd wouldnt conect to it whilst iwconfig would after i killed wpa-supplicant - just notes, YMMV |
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| 05:04.34 | simonlnu | s/stalk/stock/ |
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| 05:05.25 | taylorjonl | I am trying to setup a network bridge in /etc/network/interfaces, do I setup the IP on the bridge or eth0? |
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| 05:05.51 | simonlnu | i do believe it's on brX |
| 05:06.04 | simonlnu | but check the manuals to be sure |
| 05:11.40 | aBound | somiaj, Thanks. |
| 05:11.46 | aBound | I'm off. :) |
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| 05:31.24 | blast_hardcheese | Do I have to do anything special to get ssh keys working with LDAP+autofs? |
| 05:31.57 | blast_hardcheese | Not sure which one is preventing authorized_keys from being read, I assumed it would just work |
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| 05:44.44 | karlpinc | blast_hardcheese: I've had issues with permissions on authorized_keys. I don't recall why but 600 fixed it. |
| 05:47.16 | blast_hardcheese | karlpinc: You don't want other people to be able to read your authorized keys, ssh enforces this |
| 05:48.17 | blast_hardcheese | That's not the issue I'm having, also modern ssh servers inform the user when you log in with bad permissions on your authorized_keys. I think this is an issue with enumerating user info from ldap, since the home directory is mounted. |
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| 05:48.25 | multiHYP | hi all |
| 05:48.35 | blast_hardcheese | karlpinc: Thanks for answering though :) |
| 05:48.42 | simonlnu | because the client checks the perms |
| 05:49.02 | multiHYP | is there anything i should be warned of before getting on with debian 6? i used to do a bit of ubuntu 11.04 administration. |
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| 05:49.23 | blast_hardcheese | simonlnu: I thought the authorized keys variable was set in sshd's config |
| 05:49.34 | blast_hardcheese | so the server would do the checking, not the client |
| 05:49.37 | simonlnu | blast_hardcheese: isn't it something to do with session opening, read stuff from ldap, then sshd sends to client, etc.? |
| 05:49.54 | simonlnu | there's a default built-in, that can be configured |
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| 05:50.19 | blast_hardcheese | Right; I assumed it was in the server, I could be wrong. Either way, it's in one of them :) |
| 05:51.00 | blast_hardcheese | I can query the server, I can log in with a password, |
| 05:55.17 | blast_hardcheese | for whatever reason I just can't get ssh keys working. |
| 05:56.03 | somiaj | ok still trying to debug this wireless issue (most likey due to the RTL8188CE chipset) anyways it wouldn't assoicate with the AP (iwconfig kept showing not-assoicated) so i *gulp* rebooted. So now iwconfig says I am assoicated with the AP on an open network, but dhclient still cannot get a dhcp response |
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| 06:00.09 | blast_hardcheese | somiaj: Manually set your IP, try to ping the gateway? |
| 06:01.33 | somiaj | blast_hardcheese: I was hoping not to result to that option, as this is a large hotel network. but I'll give it a try, time to try to guess a non-used ip |
| 06:02.35 | blast_hardcheese | Ping the IP you want to use from whatever machine you're on right now, |
| 06:02.46 | blast_hardcheese | if you don't get a response it's probably open :) |
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| 06:05.35 | somiaj | well that worked, I can now ping the gateway, hmm, well that gets me online, but still want to figure out why dchp doesn't like me |
| 06:05.58 | blast_hardcheese | dhclient -v ? |
| 06:06.24 | somiaj | going to see if the 'accept' button will let me onto the net this way without a proper dhcp lease |
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| 06:10.58 | blast_hardcheese | Aha! |
| 06:10.59 | blast_hardcheese | Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/blast_hardcheese |
| 06:11.55 | blast_hardcheese | Woot! |
| 06:12.30 | blast_hardcheese | Turns out my home directory was still 777 from when I was tracking down idmapd issues |
| 06:12.58 | blast_hardcheese | hooray for sshd -Dde |
| 06:15.43 | blast_hardcheese | Also, it turns out that nfsv4 didn't hang, the server was just getting slammed. 8 machines all trying to copy gigs of data... worse still, all 8 of those machines were virtual machines on the NFS server |
| 06:15.57 | somiaj | well the static ip seems to work and I assoicated correctly, but still want to figure out why dhcp doens't seem to like large open networks with multiple AP's |
| 06:16.05 | somiaj | most likely due to this crappy card...:/ |
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| 06:58.01 | moebius | i've built my first kernel |
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| 06:58.50 | moebius | now i don't really have to mourn about the ones that have been removed from backports, cause i can make them myself |
| 06:59.13 | moebius | only one question: do all those warnings in compiling process matter?.. |
| 06:59.24 | moebius | cause something makes me think it's inevitable anyway. |
| 06:59.59 | moebius | it all works, i'm on my own kernel now, checked dmesg - no errors. |
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| 07:00.54 | moebius | unlike on 2.6.32 where i would always get buncha ACPI errors... |
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| 07:04.45 | somethinginteres | All my non-security updates say "No update details available" using the ftp.debian.org mirror in sources.list. How can I get better information downloaded so I know what's changed in each update? |
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| 07:16.33 | HHELLD | What would be a good way to get diff with all local changes to the configuration files? And debconf-based changes, separately, perhaps. |
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| 07:17.19 | HHELLD | local + debconf can possibly be done with retreiving all the deb files for installed packages, extracting their conffiles, and doing a diff. Quite a bit of stuff to do and not even exactly precise. |
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| 08:27.25 | zendeavor | sweet |
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| 08:28.54 | zendeavor | so i am running squeeze, but i want to use a more up to date and capable version of subtle and i3. i've found that they are easily available, but in a sid/unstable repo that i can't use because i will have to upgrade dozens/hundreds of packages |
| 08:29.13 | zendeavor | but i'm under terse instruction to stick to squeeze for production reasons |
| 08:30.28 | Lint | zendeavor, you may try to rebuild them from source |
| 08:31.05 | zendeavor | yes of course i could do that but i'm not allowed the spare time to tinker about like that anymore |
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| 08:31.26 | zendeavor | i came from arch =\ |
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| 08:32.05 | zendeavor | got myself in trouble fiddling with the linux innards tweaking everything just so instead of getting work done |
| 08:32.26 | zendeavor | my punishment was a debian install ahah |
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| 08:44.50 | babilen | !tell zendeavor -about ssb |
| 08:44.50 | babilen | ,checkbackport i3 |
| 08:44.53 | babilen | ,checkbackport subtle |
| 08:44.54 | judd | Backporting package i3 in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libxcb-util0-dev (>= 0.3.8), libxcb-icccm4-dev. |
| 08:44.55 | judd | Backporting package subtle in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, squeeze-backports. |
| 08:46.08 | babilen | zendeavor: i3 might be more involved due to the missing build-dependencies (libxcb-util0-dev, libxcb-icccm4-dev) -- "/msg judd checkbackport libxcb-icccm4-dev" (and the other (recursively)) should tell you what else you need to backport and install first. |
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| 08:46.36 | Lint | ,checkbackport a b c |
| 08:46.37 | judd | No package named 'a' was found in sid/i386. |
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| 08:46.53 | Lint | ,checkbackport lxappearance b c |
| 08:46.55 | judd | Backporting package lxappearance in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
| 08:47.52 | babilen | zendeavor: Given that you endured Arch (your words) you *might* be interested in running testing or sid, but note that this might result in an unusable system and you have to know (or be willing to learn) about Debian's packaging system in order to solve some problems. Testing does not receive security updates as well. |
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| 08:48.26 | babilen | Lint: There is no need for the "b c" and you can "/msg judd" if you want to play with this feature. |
| 08:48.49 | zendeavor | oh i have no doubt i could run sid or testing like a breeze, but i have been warned lol |
| 08:48.51 | babilen | zendeavor: I would recommend to read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable if you consider the latter approach |
| 08:49.58 | zendeavor | arch was a fun 2 years for me. debian will take some time to grow on me i think |
| 08:50.07 | zendeavor | babilen: thanks alot for all the info |
| 08:50.11 | babilen | zendeavor: Yes, it *will* break (sometimes horribly) and you need sound understanding of Debian's innards to solve some of them. That being said: It is mostly fine ... I just wanted to give you the complete picture. |
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| 08:51.06 | zendeavor | i used to run aptosid/sidux back a few years ago, it wasn't so bad but maybe those devs were fixing things behind my back |
| 08:51.08 | babilen | zendeavor: ... and welcome to Debian :) |
| 08:52.44 | xwalk | zendeavor: The Debian communtiy in particular is what made me make the switch. |
| 08:53.11 | xwalk | Haven't come across a single person who hasn't been able to help me where documentation couldn't. |
| 08:54.15 | zendeavor | is that so |
| 08:54.29 | zendeavor | see, i've had the same experiences with arch ^.^ |
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| 08:55.04 | zendeavor | but you gotta be able to sling shhhhhhhhhhhh back at most of that community or you won't get anywhere heh |
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| 08:59.55 | guardian | hi, would you recommend adminer http://www.adminer.org/ over phpmyadin? |
| 08:59.59 | guardian | phpmyadmin |
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| 09:20.31 | zcat[1] | trying to download a file from the pirate bay. It's a silly minecraft poscast series which my kid has been watching at home and the cost of internet is crippling us, I want to download the whole series by torrent through a cheaper connection I have access to. Please no lecture about the legality or my taste in material just help me make it work. The link is on the pirate bay, it says there's plenty of seeders but when I try to put it in t |
| 09:20.32 | zcat[1] | ransmission all I get is "Downloading metadata from 0 peers" -- It's a magnet link, apparently it gets peers for the download from peers I alread have, but how do I get any peers to begin with when I have no peers to find them through? |
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| 09:23.09 | gain_ | hi all |
| 09:24.03 | gain_ | I've added squeeze bakcports repository but I cant find linux-image-2.6.38 or 39... |
| 09:24.25 | homes | did you do a aptitude update? |
| 09:24.34 | gain_ | y |
| 09:24.50 | homes | did you do an aptitude search? |
| 09:24.56 | gain_ | y |
| 09:25.04 | gain_ | cant find them with apt neither with aptitude |
| 09:25.14 | homes | is 2.6.38/39 actually in your repos? |
| 09:25.22 | gain_ | I think so |
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| 09:25.25 | homes | [packages.debian.org] |
| 09:26.02 | themill | ,kernels --release squeeze-backports |
| 09:26.03 | judd | Available kernel versions are: squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.2.4-1~bpo60+1) |
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| 09:26.44 | themill | gain_: you'd be looking for a 3.2 kernel; /msg dpkg bdo kernel |
| 09:27.18 | gain_ | themill, so the 2.6.38 version is not available anymore? |
| 09:27.42 | gain_ | instructions like https://ticketing.nforce.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/27/0/upgrading-the-kernel-to-2638-in-debian-6-squeeze |
| 09:27.56 | gain_ | or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9203618/debian-backports-disapeared-from-my-pakage-list |
| 09:28.12 | gain_ | are too old? |
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| 09:28.50 | themill | no, the 2.6.38 kernel is not available any more. Usually, there's only 1 kernel in backports and if you look at those posts, they're 6 to 9 months old. |
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| 09:29.53 | gain_ | damn... I'm trying to install mISDN, and the tutorial for compiling wants 2.6.38.2... with my 2.6.32 I have a compilation error... :( |
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| 09:30.16 | gain_ | I'll try with the new kernel... |
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| 09:33.20 | gain_ | so there's only one kernel in backports... good to know... thanks |
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| 09:38.20 | Trewas | zcat[1]: it probably needs to bootstrap the DHT system from normal torrents at least once (not on every startup) |
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| 09:43.58 | athit | Hi, |
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| 09:47.00 | zcat[1] | Trewas: It's been doing normal torrents pretty regularly .. how much doenloading do I need to do? |
| 09:48.31 | zcat[1] | never mind, found a normal torrent link |
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| 09:49.01 | luxx_ | hi guys |
| 09:49.10 | luxx_ | do you know a webserver which act like a cdn? |
| 09:49.29 | Lint | where can I get Debian 2? |
| 09:51.40 | streuner_ | Debian 2? do you mean really version 2? |
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| 09:53.35 | Woet | gotta keep them servers up to date |
| 09:53.43 | Woet | why would you go for debian 1 when you could get debian 2 |
| 09:54.11 | streuner_ | wtf is Debian 2? :-) |
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| 09:54.38 | Woet | debian hamm |
| 09:54.56 | streuner_ | !hamm |
| 09:54.57 | dpkg | Hamm (Debian GNU/Linux 2.0) was released for i386 and m68k (first multi-arch release) on July 24, 1998. It is no longer supported. Get old hamm ISOs here: http://mirror.debianforum.de/debian-iso-archive/hamm/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianHamm |
| 09:55.11 | streuner_ | i doubt, that Lint wants really Hamm |
| 09:55.37 | biggi_mat | Hello. So, explain on thing to me - df -h claims 92GB of used space while doing du -sh /* sums up to about 50GB. How? What am I missing? |
| 09:55.56 | Woet | you doubt or you hope? :p |
| 09:56.05 | Woet | i mean, you hope that he doesn't want hamm |
| 09:56.14 | Lint | but it's 639MB and from 2007, is that OK? |
| 09:56.26 | Woet | no |
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| 09:57.08 | James_KL | hello , installing Debian , gives that error x86_64 : http://bitsy.me/img4dy - WTF? |
| 09:57.33 | Woet | sigh |
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| 09:57.43 | Woet | !ops James_KL spams |
| 09:57.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: woet complains about: James_KL spams |
| 09:57.53 | biggi_mat | I fell for it :( |
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| 09:58.08 | Lint | what's in the link? |
| 09:58.23 | biggi_mat | Some russian crap |
| 09:58.27 | Woet | you vote for some kind of russian things |
| 09:58.47 | Woet | he did it on multiple channels |
| 09:58.48 | James_KL | you vote for Putin |
| 09:59.28 | Lint | I will for Prokhorov, and it's rather offtopic here |
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| 10:00.04 | James_KL | Prokhorov is gay. |
| 10:00.10 | James_KL | hello , installing Debian , gives that error x86_64 : http://bitsy.me/img4dy - WTF? |
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| 10:01.47 | Lint | why Hamm ISO is dated November 2007? it's not fake? |
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| 10:12.48 | Lint | which program can open "dict.dz" files? |
| 10:13.03 | Lint | GTK one is preferable |
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| 10:14.25 | grondilu | I've been banned from GMX and I cannot send emails anymore. I don't understand, I wasn't doing any spamming or anything. |
| 10:15.07 | grondilu | I know it's not debian related, but anyone here can give me an advice for a mail provider that I could use with smtp? |
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| 10:16.38 | streuner_ | grondilu: gmx.net (europe) |
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| 10:18.04 | streuner_ | grondilu: there is web.de too |
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| 10:18.38 | grondilu | streuner_: thks, I'll check this out |
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| 10:33.56 | crodjer | I am having a weird issue with gdm3. I can't get the alert bell to work with X terminals. With `echo "\a"` or xkbbell. |
| 10:33.59 | crodjer | It works with xdm though |
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| 10:37.11 | jelly-home | grondilu: gmail has a submission interface |
| 10:37.28 | crodjer | I use XMonad for window manager, but the problem persists in awesome too. How can I proceed to deal with this issue? |
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| 10:55.53 | Logi | if debian-next has become invite-only, how do you hope to keep wheezy/sid questions out of this channel? |
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| 10:59.27 | Logi | Shouldn't adding 'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free' to /etc/apt/sources.list (and updating etc) make the same version of a package available to apt/aptitude as is shown on http://packages.debian.org/experimental/digikam ? |
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| 11:02.55 | jelly-home | Logi: #debian-next is not on Freenode, but on irc.debian.org network |
| 11:03.19 | Logi | jelly-home: ah, right. Thanks. |
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| 11:03.35 | Logi | I've been away in ubuntu-land for a few years and forgotten the details |
| 11:03.38 | jelly-home | Logi: as for experimental, I'm not sure you have access to "ftp.debian.org", use a mirror instead |
| 11:04.12 | Logi | jelly-home: I did and then tried the original. I just didn't want the response to be that my mirror was lagging or useless. |
| 11:04.21 | Logi | I didn't get any download errors in either case |
| 11:04.29 | jelly-home | !bat |
| 11:04.29 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 11:04.46 | jelly-home | ,versions digikam |
| 11:04.47 | judd | Package: digikam on i386 -- lenny: 2:0.9.4-1; squeeze: 2:1.2.0-7; sid: 2:1.9.0-3+b1; wheezy: 2:1.9.0-3+b1; experimental: 4:2.5.0-1 |
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| 11:05.34 | Logi | jelly-home: Thanks for pointing out the places I should look for problems. I'll see if I can sort it out myself :) |
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| 11:06.05 | jelly-home | sure! |
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| 11:07.16 | Lint | that's bad advice, as some tools favours $LANGUAGE over $LANG |
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| 11:15.39 | Logi | jelly-home: well, what do you know? My mirror was lagging or useless. Both the .no and .is mirrors seem to be horribly out of date, but the .de mirror has the expected packages. |
| 11:16.43 | Logi | now we'll just have to see how horribly this breaks my system :) |
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| 11:41.02 | zendeavor | grah, halp. i cannot for the life of me why i cannot start mpd now. worked earlier in the day. i've tried setting `bind_to_address' to 'localhost' and '127.0.0.1' and commenting it out. lsof reports nothing bound to that address and/or port. strangely, ncmpcpp launches and connects to a running mpd anyway |
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| 11:43.50 | zendeavor | i can't find mpd with htop, ps, nothing |
| 11:44.07 | zendeavor | have no clue what is running on the address:port |
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| 11:47.20 | mariok | hi everyone. |
| 11:47.27 | moebius_ | i got a question. Never had this problem before, but now Synaptic's quick search doesn't show all the packages i got from repositories. I mean.. they're there, i can still install them or find using apt-cache search, but i need Synaptic sometimes. It doesn't show some things, unless i use global search which is right next to it. |
| 11:47.30 | moebius_ | any ideas? |
| 11:47.50 | mariok | I need help with apt-move. |
| 11:48.39 | mariok | I want the SHA256: Strings to appear in dists/squeeze/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz |
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| 11:49.02 | mariok | I understand that apt-move creates this file in ap "apt-move update" run |
| 11:50.00 | zendeavor | never mind me, somehow i had mpd running under root... |
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| 11:51.35 | zendeavor | x.x fehg |
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| 11:53.48 | zendeavor | moebius_: i can't imagine what's happened there for you, but i can assure you that you can survive just fine without synaptic by the by. synaptic has to get all that info by calling something right? ;D |
| 11:54.19 | zendeavor | one should never claim to need ;o |
| 11:54.20 | moebius_ | right |
| 11:54.26 | moebius_ | also i just like it more :) |
| 11:54.34 | moebius_ | it's faster and i can see the list of related packages |
| 11:54.40 | moebius_ | by the keyword |
| 11:54.47 | zendeavor | mhmm |
| 11:55.22 | moebius_ | hang on... i'm trying something here |
| 11:55.25 | zendeavor | i have to agree to be fair, apt output is horrendous even in a fullscreen terminal |
| 11:55.31 | zendeavor | at least imo |
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| 11:56.51 | moebius_ | solved. |
| 11:57.00 | moebius_ | dpkg --configure -a |
| 11:57.01 | dpkg | moebius_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 11:57.02 | moebius_ | this thing helped. |
| 11:57.06 | moebius_ | found on ubuntu forum lol |
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| 11:57.33 | moebius_ | but i believe it's only a bug of 32bit image of Debian.. cause i recently switched from amd64 one... and it never happened there. |
| 11:57.42 | moebius_ | images can be different just a tiny bit though. |
| 11:57.52 | moebius_ | or maybe i ran into that by one of the million accidents somehow. |
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| 11:59.41 | moebius_ | by the way.. i'm using 32bit version on amd64 machine just because of skype ) Latest version crashes on amd64 unmercifully. And yes, i need skype, so don't go "don't use crappy software" ;) |
| 12:00.00 | moebius_ | also.... i don't lose much, i have only 4gb of memory, and that's just fine. |
| 12:00.17 | jelly-home | Logi: huh, and the mirror status page says ftp.no.debian.org is just fine |
| 12:00.58 | jelly-home | moebius_: I have 8GB and also still use 32bit userspace |
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| 12:01.13 | moebius_ | jelly-home, oh really.. |
| 12:01.24 | moebius_ | jelly-home, on what system? amd64? |
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| 12:01.46 | jelly-home | moebius_: all the CPUs in the last 2-3 years have been amd64-capable, including Atoms |
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| 12:01.53 | moebius_ | hm... |
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| 12:02.00 | moebius_ | what is the reason if i may ask? |
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| 12:02.28 | jelly-home | no benefits switching to 64bit, only detriments |
| 12:02.33 | moebius_ | i see. |
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| 12:02.55 | moebius_ | usually that obstructs compiling stuff. |
| 12:03.01 | moebius_ | when you need extra devs |
| 12:03.58 | moebius_ | but for me it's somewhat different.... 32bit seems to be more... reliable in a way. I compiled my first kernel by the way... now i'm right on it. |
| 12:04.15 | moebius_ | works fine, no probs so far |
| 12:04.42 | moebius_ | after that they removed 2.6.38 from backports i got desperate and finally did it myself |
| 12:04.44 | Aiden | http://puu.sh/9J8n god damnit.... |
| 12:04.46 | jelly-home | I just use linux-image-amd64 kernels to have all the RAM available |
| 12:05.01 | jelly-home | moebius_: what's wrong with 3.2? |
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| 12:05.35 | moebius_ | jelly-home, i compiled not even 2.6.38, but 2.6.35 |
| 12:05.41 | moebius_ | just out of experiment, this is not the end |
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| 12:05.55 | moebius_ | but i have a bad experience installing 3.2. That thing disables my audio completely. |
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| 12:06.13 | moebius_ | but maybe that's only backports one... maybe if i compile it myself it will be different. We'll see. |
| 12:06.45 | moebius_ | 2.6.35 is just experimental. I just took a random one. Named it linux-image-2.6.35-exp :) |
| 12:07.14 | moebius_ | but i see no probs with it. Also it got rid of those ACPI annoying errors in dmesg provided by "stable" 2.6.32 one. |
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| 12:08.03 | moebius_ | hmm... good thing you told me |
| 12:08.06 | moebius_ | i got only 3.1 now... |
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| 12:08.08 | moebius_ | gonna fix it. |
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| 12:10.47 | moebius_ | so what you're saying, that if i install amd64 image it will still be 32bit?.. |
| 12:10.55 | moebius_ | if installed on 32bit Debian that is? |
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| 12:25.47 | _ProGammer | hi |
| 12:26.13 | _ProGammer | im trying to open("/dev/kmem",O_RDONLY) on debian6 |
| 12:26.20 | _ProGammer | but it return -1!! |
| 12:26.27 | _ProGammer | im root |
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| 12:27.31 | beardy | So bow. |
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| 12:28.01 | _ProGammer | ! |
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| 12:28.17 | Slydder | hey all. am looking for a way to prevent cron from creating /var/spool/cron when it starts if it's not present. does anyone know how I could do this? |
| 12:29.05 | beardy | If you don't know how to break your system you shouldn't. |
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| 12:30.46 | _ProGammer | beardy: if you have any idea please help me |
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| 12:31.39 | grandboy | http://xeducation.info/2012/03/blonde-teen-bj-in-a-car-then-beautifully-fucked-in-the-pussy/ |
| 12:32.31 | LjL | !ops grandboy |
| 12:32.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ljl complains about: grandboy |
| 12:32.33 | LjL | whoops |
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| 12:37.28 | babilen | LjL: Thanks |
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| 12:38.36 | quitte | hi. what's the name of that prgram that runs xephyr with a gdm session inside on the desktop? |
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| 12:40.24 | boy24ch | http://xeducation.info/2012/03/uk-soccer-fan-with-big-boobs-horny-as-hell/ |
| 12:40.24 | boy24ch | http://xeducation.info/2012/03/blonde-teen-bj-in-a-car-then-beautifully-fucked-in-the-pussy/ |
| 12:40.24 | boy24ch | http://xeducation.info/2012/02/bisex-party/ |
| 12:40.24 | boy24ch | http://xeducation.info/2012/02/my-tight-teens-pussy-is-very-wet-while-big-dicks-fucks-my-asshole/ |
| 12:40.24 | boy24ch | http://xeducation.info/2012/02/young-lesbians/ |
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| 12:57.05 | AlexAnteMachina | is anybody in here willed helping me to get my eee 1000 h's wifi running? |
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| 12:59.09 | nkuttler | AlexAnteMachina: ask your real question and you will see |
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| 12:59.26 | AlexAnteMachina | okay nkuttler |
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| 13:00.00 | AlexAnteMachina | yesterday I installed Debian Wheezy on my eee 1000h. |
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| 13:00.12 | AlexAnteMachina | during install wifi worked like a charme |
| 13:00.40 | AlexAnteMachina | but after installation was finished, it wont. |
| 13:00.58 | AlexAnteMachina | so i thought it might be missing firmware |
| 13:01.27 | AlexAnteMachina | installed fimrware-linux, firmware-linux-free and firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 13:01.37 | AlexAnteMachina | rebootet and still not working |
| 13:01.45 | nkuttler | doubtful. search for relevant lines in /var/log/messages |
| 13:01.56 | AlexAnteMachina | just a second... |
| 13:02.07 | nkuttler | actually, just pastebin that file |
| 13:02.17 | AlexAnteMachina | of course. |
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| 13:06.31 | Darkasakerionz | Hello, anybody can help me encrypting a file with blowfish and openssl? Thanks |
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| 13:14.28 | Iridos | Darka.... |
| 13:14.30 | Iridos | huh |
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| 13:22.42 | mariok | Hi. I tried to submit a bug by sening an email to submit@bugs.debian.org but I didn't get an auto response. How do can I see if the bug is successufully submitted? |
| 13:23.37 | quitte | mariok you can search for it on bugs.debian.org. why didn't you use reportbug? |
| 13:24.22 | mariok | quitte: thanks. I have my mail setup running on a different host in the internet. |
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| 13:24.56 | mariok | the system were the bug appears is not the same as the one where my MUA is configured |
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| 13:25.48 | quitte | that doesn't matter. reportbug can still be used. |
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| 13:26.07 | quitte | mariok: as long as you have an internet connection on that box |
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| 13:27.05 | mariok | quitte: It's not listed yet. |
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| 13:27.51 | mariok | quitte: How long does it usually take to get the bug listed? |
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| 13:28.22 | mariok | is it normal to get no auto reply if I send an email to submit@bugs.debian.org? |
| 13:29.13 | simonlnu | within the hour |
| 13:31.35 | mariok | is it a problem to attach a patch file and a gpt signature to the email ? |
| 13:31.49 | simonlnu | no |
| 13:31.57 | mariok | s/gpt/gpg/g |
| 13:32.03 | mariok | simonlnu: thanks |
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| 13:32.38 | Naeblis | I'm trying to install Debian, but it fails to install GRUB |
| 13:32.42 | simonlnu | there's certain headers it expects, and that's why reportbug was suggested to you |
| 13:32.45 | Naeblis | any ideas? |
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| 13:32.58 | simonlnu | Not Enough Info Naeblis |
| 13:33.02 | mariok | simonlnu: I fixed one issue of the bug and attached a patch. But there is another issue and I need someone with deep knowledge in apt-move. |
| 13:33.24 | simonlnu | the maintainer(s) do(es) |
| 13:34.43 | Naeblis | simonlnu, I get this: http://i.imgur.com/WH9EF.png |
| 13:35.08 | Naeblis | tried twice on new VMs now |
| 13:35.32 | quitte | mariok: once you reported the bug you can simply reply to the mail you'll get. |
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| 13:36.12 | waldvogel | Naeblis: maybe an issue with the disk setup... how did you do that? |
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| 13:37.16 | Naeblis | disk setup? You mean partition? I just let it keep the default options(keep everything on a single partition) |
| 13:38.06 | AlexAnteMachina | nkuttler, http://pastebin.ca/2123784 |
| 13:38.52 | Naeblis | so should I just install LILO then? |
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| 13:38.59 | Naeblis | :S |
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| 13:39.59 | mariok | simonlnu: the maintainers are the Debian QA Group |
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| 13:40.09 | mariok | the package in question is apt-move |
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| 13:40.52 | plank | apt-put |
| 13:42.01 | simonlnu | mariok: ah well, not much luck there, there's no maintainers right now |
| 13:42.33 | mariok | simonlnu: can you give a an advice how to proceed? |
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| 13:43.22 | mariok | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=apt-move says: |
| 13:43.32 | mariok | Maintainers for apt-move are Debian QA Group |
| 13:43.41 | simonlnu | mariok: you could volunteer to maintain it, or use something else |
| 13:43.41 | mariok | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/apt-move says: |
| 13:43.51 | mariok | Maintainer: |
| 13:43.52 | mariok | Chuan-kai Lin (QA Page) |
| 13:44.26 | simonlnu | or hit him up with an email saying you have a patch for it |
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| 13:45.11 | mariok | simonlnu: to volunteer as a maintainer? |
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| 13:45.21 | quitte | mariok: you might want to look at reprepro. i found it to be easy to use and the maintainer and developer to be veryy helpful |
| 13:45.21 | simonlnu | yes |
| 13:45.35 | simonlnu | reprepro is very cool |
| 13:45.40 | mariok | I need someone with deep knowledge about apt-move. If I'm the persion then I probable would not need someone with the knowledge |
| 13:46.14 | mariok | I sould have a look at it. |
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| 13:46.45 | mariok | is reprepro accepted by debootstrap as an source to debootstrap Debian GNU/Linux from? |
| 13:47.02 | mariok | s/an/a/g |
| 13:47.06 | nkuttler | AlexAnteMachina: looks like your hardware is ok: [ 14.737583] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready |
| 13:47.11 | quitte | mariok: yes |
| 13:47.17 | nkuttler | AlexAnteMachina: so it should just be a matter of connecting to the network |
| 13:47.17 | simonlnu | good question. there might be a hook you can hook into to call it |
| 13:47.28 | AlexAnteMachina | hummm... |
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| 13:47.45 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm not good in using a Terminal |
| 13:48.18 | quitte | mariok: at least it worked a couple of years ago. i don't see why that would have changed |
| 13:48.24 | AlexAnteMachina | So actually I'm pretty much lost, since the gdm3 wifi-manger tells me it'n not working |
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| 13:48.51 | simonlnu | ingnore me, quitte seems to know a lot more than i on this ;) |
| 13:48.56 | jetscreamer | gdm3 wifi? |
| 13:49.00 | quitte | AlexAnteMachina: i guess you are talking about network-manager? |
| 13:49.09 | AlexAnteMachina | quitte, yes |
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| 13:49.25 | quitte | AlexAnteMachina: remove the wifi interface settings from /etc/network/interfaces and let network-manager handle that for you |
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| 13:50.05 | jetscreamer | always make a backup |
| 13:50.09 | mariok | quitte: apt-move worked for me as well a few month ago. |
| 13:50.12 | quitte | AlexAnteMachina: once that's done try explaining how little it doesn't work. does it see other networks etc |
| 13:50.12 | jetscreamer | first |
| 13:50.25 | Iridos | mariok, I'd wait at least a day or so before resending... as for someone with knowledge about it, probably the person reacting to the bug-report will (should) have such knowledge :) |
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| 13:51.17 | AlexAnteMachina | ha! in /etc/network/interfaces i can read the settings i gave during installation. |
| 13:51.19 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 13:51.51 | quitte | make them into comments and reboot. then network-manager should be able to manage the interface |
| 13:52.20 | mariok | quitte: is the repository which you made with reprepro available over the internet? |
| 13:52.24 | AlexAnteMachina | is trying |
| 13:52.29 | mariok | I want to have a look at the Packages.gz file |
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| 13:52.45 | quitte | mariok uhm i don't know. let me try to goolge it |
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| 13:53.23 | quitte | mariok: no it's gone |
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| 13:53.47 | quitte | mariok: give it a try. it creates a directory just like a normal debian mirror |
| 13:54.01 | quitte | release files package file pool directory etc. |
| 13:54.11 | quitte | and is a bliss to setup and use |
| 13:54.20 | mariok | quitte: does the Release file contain a SHA256 section? |
| 13:54.44 | mariok | and in the Packages.gz each package must have a SHA1 and SHA256 line |
| 13:55.02 | mariok | ^^^ that is axactly the problem with apt-move |
| 13:55.08 | quitte | http://man.he.net/man1/reprepro google suggests yes |
| 13:55.12 | mariok | it does not yet create these SHA256 lines |
| 13:55.16 | AlexAnteMachina | nkuttler, quitte THANK YOU VERY MUCH! |
| 13:55.20 | AlexAnteMachina | works! |
| 13:56.06 | quitte | you're welcome |
| 13:56.26 | quitte | mariok: hmm after actually reading it i'm not so sure anymore. |
| 13:56.45 | AlexAnteMachina | glad my eee runs on pure debian now! |
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| 13:57.04 | AlexAnteMachina | Ubuntu pissed me off |
| 13:57.40 | quitte | it does that very well, doesn't it? especially when a new release is declared stable |
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| 13:58.44 | AlexAnteMachina | especially debian is good in turning battery-power into heat |
| 13:58.48 | AlexAnteMachina | doh |
| 13:58.53 | AlexAnteMachina | sorry, meant ubuntu |
| 13:59.05 | AlexAnteMachina | kinda confused now |
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| 13:59.39 | AndroidBeing | is there anything I need to change apart from an entry in fstab to get an NFS filesystem to mount at boot? |
| 13:59.59 | quitte | nfs-common needs to be installed |
| 14:00.37 | quitte | also the network interface needs to be up which is not the case with network-manager |
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| 14:02.28 | AndroidBeing | quitte: nfs-common fixed it :) |
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| 14:05.20 | mariok | okay I got the auto responder now about the bug report. |
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| 14:06.06 | jadams | I've got a policy I can see set in apt-cache policy for package google-chrome. I don't see reference to it in /etc/apt/preferences. How can I remove this policy? |
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| 14:10.04 | M4dH4TT3r | ubuntu eats dick |
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| 14:14.04 | themill | M4dH4TT3r: feel free to keep unhelpful comments like that to yourself |
| 14:15.05 | M4dH4TT3r | same 2 u themillerswife |
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| 14:17.03 | carlW | I have an old binary around linking against an ancient libtiff.so.3 |
| 14:17.12 | carlW | when I grab those libs from tape and place them in /tmp this doesn't work: |
| 14:17.26 | carlW | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/tmp/ ./oldprogram |
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| 14:17.41 | carlW | moving those libs to /usr/local/lib/ and running ldconfig doesn't work either |
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| 14:17.51 | carlW | BUT, moving them to /lib and running ldconfig works!? |
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| 14:18.40 | carlW | //etc/ld.so.conf contains /usr/local/lib, as does /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf |
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| 14:19.10 | carlW | and why is the trusted LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/tmp/ failing? |
| 14:19.33 | Woet | how to specify static ipv6 setting in the preseed of debian 6? |
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| 14:24.42 | benedikt | what program is responsible for "No mail" or "You have 1 new mail" notifications when I log in and where is it started? |
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| 14:27.16 | lolfrenz | hey |
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| 14:27.37 | lolfrenz | is there any way I can use the package manager to download and install packages without being root? |
| 14:27.44 | jetscreamer | sudo |
| 14:27.48 | lolfrenz | without being root. |
| 14:27.59 | lolfrenz | obviously, installing with --root=~/ or something |
| 14:28.00 | Lint | which program can open "dict.dz" files? |
| 14:28.04 | Lint | GTK one is preferable |
| 14:28.36 | Arcenciel | You want to install a program as root but you do not want to be root? |
| 14:28.47 | lolfrenz | where did I mention "as root"? |
| 14:29.02 | Arcenciel | I am sorry, it sounded like that. My mistake. |
| 14:29.16 | lolfrenz | np, I just want to install it somewhere in my home folder, where I have write access |
| 14:29.27 | benedikt | lolfrenz: you could download the .debs with apt-get -d and install with dpkg.. |
| 14:29.38 | lolfrenz | benedikt, I assume dpkg --root=~ ? |
| 14:29.51 | Lint | lolfrenz, there's --force-root option of dpkg |
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| 14:30.05 | benedikt | lolfrenz: afaik apt-get will check the UID when you run apt-get install and not let you pass unless it is 0. |
| 14:30.20 | lolfrenz | benedikt, so how do I get around that? |
| 14:30.44 | lolfrenz | apt-get -d is great, but it still checks for root |
| 14:30.47 | benedikt | lolfrenz: i'm not qualified to answer, i don't know if you can. The manpage surely mentions it. |
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| 14:33.20 | quitte | lolfrenz: there is no support to install debian packages in user directories |
| 14:33.40 | quitte | lolfrenz: all you can do is try to unpack the archives and get them working somehow |
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| 14:34.15 | mariok | thanks for your support. bye |
| 14:34.21 | lolfrenz | quitte, apparently I have aptitude installed, so I did "aptitude download vim" which gave me the package |
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| 14:34.35 | lolfrenz | quitte, but dpkg -i --root=~ still requires elevated privs |
| 14:34.48 | themill | lolfrenz: debian packages probably won't install correctly in anywhere other than / |
| 14:34.55 | quitte | lolfrenz: try dpkg -x |
| 14:35.23 | lolfrenz | oh, --force-not-root |
| 14:35.45 | lolfrenz | $ dpkg -i --root=. --force-not-root vim_2%3a7.2.445+hg~cb94c42c0e1a-1_amd64.deb |
| 14:35.45 | lolfrenz | dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: No such file or directory |
| 14:35.45 | dpkg | lolfrenz: no idea |
| 14:35.47 | lolfrenz | meh |
| 14:36.33 | quitte | lolfrenz: vim is something that your admin usually is willing to install |
| 14:36.36 | Woet | lolfrenz: have you already mentioned what you are trying to do? |
| 14:36.55 | lolfrenz | Woet, download and install a package in a subdir of my home without being root |
| 14:36.59 | themill | lolfrenz: none of the preinst and postinst scripts will work correctly when you unpack it anyway. |
| 14:37.10 | Woet | lolfrenz: and is there any reason for doing so? |
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| 14:37.37 | Woet | lolfrenz: that's why I'm asking what you are trying to do - not the solution you came up with |
| 14:37.43 | lolfrenz | Woet, because I can't be bothered to wait one day for the admin everytime I need something trivial installed, neither fix a million dependencies and compile by hand |
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| 14:38.04 | lolfrenz | I can't even work without vim installed, and the admin is rarely online |
| 14:38.21 | Woet | is it some kind of shell account? or school? |
| 14:38.53 | lolfrenz | just some box the guy I work for gave me to host some stuff I'm working on |
| 14:39.03 | lolfrenz | will be a production server eventually |
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| 14:40.06 | Woet | guess he should give you root or some small vps so you can do whatever you want :p |
| 14:40.12 | quitte | lolfrenz: dpkg -x unpacks the archive to a directory. that's not installing but you get the contents dumped in your directory. try that. |
| 14:40.30 | jelly-home | ,versions vim |
| 14:40.31 | Woet | you could try to get the binary file (like vim) from another server and copy it to your home dir |
| 14:40.31 | judd | Package: vim on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.1.314-3+lenny2; squeeze: 2:7.2.445+hg~cb94c42c0e1a-1; sid: 2:7.3.429-2; wheezy: 2:7.3.429-2 |
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| 14:41.39 | lolfrenz | Woet, sure, but vim was just an example. for instance, I need jre now |
| 14:42.21 | dvs | lolfrenz: you really should get him to set up sudo for you. |
| 14:42.22 | themill | lolfrenz: it's not going to work out well... |
| 14:42.50 | lolfrenz | agreed, but the package manager is still flawed |
| 14:43.05 | themill | it's designed to install packages system wide. it does this. |
| 14:43.07 | lolfrenz | one should not need root to a) download a package + b) extract in a writable folder + c) run pre and post scripts. |
| 14:43.36 | lolfrenz | agreed, but the system-wide restriction is a bit annoying |
| 14:43.58 | quitte | lolfrenz: dpkg -x, already |
| 14:44.13 | themill | you don't need to be root to download, you don't need to be root to extract it, you often need to be root to run the maintainer scripts because they are going to modify things system wide |
| 14:44.17 | lolfrenz | quitte, did it. |
| 14:44.36 | quitte | lolfrenz: does it work? |
| 14:44.56 | lolfrenz | quitte, for vim it kind of did, but the vim package I downloaded apparently only has vim.basic and a few other files (no runtime) |
| 14:45.08 | lolfrenz | quitte, I probably need to download the dependencies myself too |
| 14:45.20 | themill | if you're bypassing the dependencies, you'd kind of expect that. |
| 14:45.21 | quitte | yes. |
| 14:45.47 | quitte | lolfrenz: you also might have to change your ld library path |
| 14:45.58 | lolfrenz | themill, I was hoping "aptitude download" downloads the dependencies too |
| 14:46.46 | quitte | agrees that having a package manager with multi-user support would be nice |
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| 14:49.16 | lolfrenz | he doesn't even have sudo installed |
| 14:49.20 | lolfrenz | what kind of box is that ffs |
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| 14:50.10 | dvs | lolfrenz: if you're the one doing the work then he should |
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| 14:51.40 | Timmy | what can i use for DNS domain and Search domain? |
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| 14:52.56 | quitte | Timmy: the deafult will be fine. |
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| 14:53.47 | quitte | Timmy: if the machine is on a lan the local domain name is what you want to choose |
| 14:53.48 | Timmy | quitte: there is no default |
| 14:54.05 | quitte | Timmy: not giving a value doesn't work? |
| 14:54.26 | Timmy | quitte: i can ping ip addresses, but not addresses |
| 14:54.45 | quitte | hostnames? |
| 14:54.54 | somiaj | Timmy: check /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:55.00 | Timmy | im looking for somethin like 4.2.2.4 or 8.8.8.8 i cant remember what it was |
| 14:55.07 | quitte | Timmy: do you mean something like ping www.google.de doesn't work? |
| 14:55.13 | Timmy | yes |
| 14:55.21 | Timmy | but if i ping its ip it works |
| 14:55.43 | quitte | Timmy: no need to set a domain and search name. just put a nameserver entry in resolv.conf |
| 14:56.09 | Timmy | quitte: ok, what nameserver? |
| 14:56.20 | quitte | the one of your isp usually |
| 14:56.52 | somiaj | Timmy: do you have a router that you connect to? |
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| 14:59.22 | Timmy | somiaj: not mine but yes |
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| 14:59.52 | somiaj | Timmy: usually routers server as a dns, you can just use the gateway ip for your nameserver in that case |
| 15:00.22 | somiaj | well router ip |
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| 15:00.51 | Timmy | somiaj: alright, what is the google public domain resolve? |
| 15:01.51 | quitte | 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 |
| 15:02.00 | quitte | which i just figured out using google |
| 15:02.01 | somiaj | ahh those are googles public dns servers? |
| 15:02.15 | Timmy | quitte: this is what i was lookin for |
| 15:02.23 | Timmy | quitte: how can i use them? |
| 15:02.35 | quitte | Timmy: man resolv.conf |
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| 15:10.04 | jelly-home | !timmy |
| 15:10.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, timmy is the human I am plotting to kill |
| 15:10.09 | jelly-home | wait what |
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| 15:16.49 | _ProGammer | guys |
| 15:16.59 | _ProGammer | how to make initrd file for new kernel |
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| 15:17.07 | _ProGammer | mkinitrd :command not found |
| 15:17.09 | _ProGammer | ! |
| 15:17.20 | quitte | update-initramfs iirc |
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| 15:17.35 | _ProGammer | ? |
| 15:17.44 | quitte | if i recall correctly |
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| 15:19.38 | Iridos | and actually it's run automatically when you install a new kernel from the repo |
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| 15:20.12 | _ProGammer | you mean make install the kernel |
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| 15:20.22 | Iridos | no |
| 15:20.27 | _ProGammer | ? |
| 15:20.29 | Iridos | this is Debain, not LFS |
| 15:20.54 | _ProGammer | i make the kernel i got vmlinux |
| 15:20.58 | _ProGammer | cp to /boot |
| 15:21.06 | _ProGammer | i need initrd to boot into new kernel |
| 15:21.18 | _ProGammer | How to make that initrd.img ? |
| 15:21.29 | Iridos | I mean something like aptitude install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae |
| 15:21.34 | quitte | _ProGammer: the linux kernel source has a make target to build debian packages. make help |
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| 15:22.29 | jelly-home | _ProGammer: update-initramfs |
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| 15:27.21 | somiaj | you can also use make-kpkg |
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| 15:28.13 | Lint | which program can open "dict.dz" files? |
| 15:28.15 | Lint | GTK one is preferable |
| 15:29.03 | quitte | thos are just dictionary files for dict? |
| 15:29.21 | Lint | for what? |
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| 15:29.46 | quitte | apt-cache show dict |
| 15:29.52 | engla | Lint: what does `file` say the filetype is? |
| 15:30.15 | quitte | Lint: once you have a local dict server any dict client works |
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| 15:30.57 | Lint | is there software, but without a server? |
| 15:31.06 | quitte | don't know. |
| 15:31.19 | quitte | dict.dz are compressed dictionary files btw |
| 15:31.48 | quitte | Lint: runnning a local server is not that hard |
| 15:31.55 | quitte | apt-cache show dictd |
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| 15:35.00 | superlinux-hp | hi. i have two monitors. when i maximize a window, it spans in gnome over both monitors. how can i force it to maximize to its current monitor only? |
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| 15:35.48 | Therion87 | What kinda card you running? |
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| 15:36.05 | superlinux-hp | Therion87, ATI RADEON HD |
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| 15:36.20 | Therion87 | Proprietary drivers? |
| 15:36.25 | superlinux-hp | yes |
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| 15:36.39 | Therion87 | Look in the catalyst control center for the monitor configurations |
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| 15:36.44 | superlinux-hp | ok |
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| 15:37.56 | superlinux-hp | Therion87, nothing in my catalyst |
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| 15:38.05 | superlinux-hp | Therion87, nothing related to that in my catalyst |
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| 15:38.39 | superlinux-hp | Therion87, what then i should do? |
| 15:38.56 | Therion87 | Go to system perferences > Monitors |
| 15:39.16 | Therion87 | Is it chcked to have the same image on all screens monitors? |
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| 15:41.05 | Mohsen_Hassani | I need to switch to wheezy on my VPS. I've heard that it's not secure enough, I even don't know what security matters would threaten me. |
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| 15:41.59 | Lint | dictd is 4,5MB, isn't it too much? |
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| 15:43.44 | quitte | Lint 272kb with dependencies here |
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| 15:44.12 | quitte | 731kb when unpacked |
| 15:44.34 | MichelleZ | Mohsen_Hassani, the main security issue is that Weezy is the current testing so if there is a patch that gets applied to fix a hole it will be applied via the security team to release but could take 2 weeks or what ever the wait is to roll from unstable to testing, there are no direct security updates to testing |
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| 15:44.47 | Lint | it |
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| 15:45.08 | Lint | 8 packages, 2,5MB archives, 4,5MB increase |
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| 15:45.21 | superlinux-hp | Therion87, I don't want the same image on both screens!!! |
| 15:45.42 | Lint | dict dictd gawk dictzip libmaa3 libsigsegv2 m4 recode |
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| 15:45.56 | quitte | Lint: why do you think that's a problem? |
| 15:46.25 | Lint | it's 4 megabytes for a simple server application |
| 15:46.38 | Lint | overkill |
| 15:46.41 | superlinux-hp | i want the same desktop over both screens, AND when i maximize a window, it just grows to the current screen only. |
| 15:46.49 | quitte | it's just using diskspace. the footprint in ram will be much lower |
| 15:47.09 | Therion87 | Exactly uncheck it |
| 15:47.25 | superlinux-hp | Therion87, it's unchecked. |
| 15:47.35 | Timmy | ok, it seems google public dns service doesn't work, how can i find out current dns address? there is one but i don't know that |
| 15:47.43 | quitte | also ram is dirt cheap |
| 15:47.56 | quitte | and hdds should be recovering any time now |
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| 15:48.16 | Mohsen_Hassani | MichelleZ, thx :) The fact is that I need to install the newer version of espeak. I'm using squeeze now but only for this newer version of espeak I wanted to switch to wheezy. Is there any way to install the newer version of espeak which is available in squeeze on wheezy? |
| 15:48.36 | MichelleZ | is it on backports? |
| 15:50.09 | Lint | debian packagers must have brain fimosis. they have a metapackage for 20 packages, and each single one of them has a metapackage as the hard dependency. it's a nightmare |
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| 15:50.57 | Mohsen_Hassani | MichelleZ, sorry, I got dc. |
| 15:51.03 | Mohsen_Hassani | MichelleZ, Did you answer me or...? |
| 15:51.17 | quitte | Lint: try disabling recommends as dependencies |
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| 15:52.07 | babilen | Lint: There is no way we can comment on that without further details. It typically also helps to not insult the people you are asking for help. If you have the feeling that certain packages are buggy you can discuss it with us or file a bug. Thank you for your understanding. |
| 15:52.47 | MichelleZ | Mohsen_Hassani, i said try backports, but i looked whist you were dc and its not there so other options are you could build from debian source, not investigated the dep chain to see how easy this is. You could build from upstream source and install in /usr/local/* untill debian has the version you need in stable |
| 15:53.03 | Lint | oh my dear. why this terrible option is on by default? |
| 15:53.12 | babilen | MichelleZ, Mohsen_Hassani: Which package is this about? |
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| 15:53.24 | babilen | !tell Lint -about recommends |
| 15:53.25 | MichelleZ | espeak |
| 15:53.32 | babilen | !tell Lint -about apt recommends |
| 15:53.45 | babilen | Lint: Sorry for the noise (cmd recommends) |
| 15:53.50 | babilen | ,checkbackport espeak |
| 15:53.50 | Mohsen_Hassani | babilen, I need to install the available wheezy espeak on my squeeze, VPS. |
| 15:53.52 | judd | Backporting package espeak in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libsonic-dev. |
| 15:54.00 | babilen | ,checkbackport libsonic-dev |
| 15:54.01 | judd | Backporting package libsonic-dev in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
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| 15:54.34 | MichelleZ | ah cool script |
| 15:54.51 | babilen | Mohsen_Hassani: Ok, you have to backport and install libsonic-dev first which allows you to backport espeak easily. The procedure for both packages is outlined in "/msg dpkg ssb" -- Have fun and good luck! |
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| 15:55.49 | Mohsen_Hassani | babilen, MichelleZ Thank you! :) |
| 15:55.52 | babilen | MichelleZ: You can, naturally, also use "/msg judd checkbackport PKG" :) |
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| 16:22.47 | Mohsen_Hassani | On my squeeze I am currently using espeak. If I install another espeak using backport won't they get broken? Or I have to first uninstall the current espeak? |
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| 16:25.31 | quitte | Mohsen_Hassani: how essential is espeak to you? |
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| 16:27.28 | quitte | Mohsen_Hassani: if you are not blind I'd give it a try. my guess would be that it gets updated and then continues to work |
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| 16:41.31 | quitte | Mohsen_Hassani: if you are not blind I'd give it a try. my guess would be that it gets updated and then continues to work |
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| 16:42.29 | wibby | Hi, is it save to install upstart (apt says: "This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!")? or are there any good alternatives for it? I'd like to run a node.js server as a service. |
| 16:43.08 | themill | why would that require upstart? |
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| 16:43.37 | wibby | it's the common tool for that in the node community |
| 16:43.55 | themill | does node.js crash and need restarting all the time? |
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| 16:44.39 | wibby | well, when an error happens from which the program can't recover, the server goes down and should be restarted automatically |
| 16:44.55 | themill | eww |
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| 16:46.12 | wibby | so yeah, some sort of tool to handle that is in order. usually people use upstart for that. but the stern warning apt gave me causes me to look for alternatives |
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| 16:46.45 | quitte | wibby daemontools? |
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| 16:47.14 | themill | You already have a perfectly good startup system that works quite nicely. It does, however, assume that when you start a service, it keeps running. |
| 16:49.34 | wibby | deamontools looks appropriate |
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| 16:51.22 | wibby | can sysvinit be used for that sort of use case too? |
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| 16:51.57 | quitte | wibby: sysvinit can run a script that runs daemontools |
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| 16:57.58 | quitte | an alternative would have been to use inittab. too bad wibby quit |
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| 17:03.08 | GNU\colossus | whta will happen with Icedove and Iceweasel in stable once Mozilla stops supporting the 3.x release branches of the respective upstream projects? |
| 17:03.43 | babilen | GNU\colossus: They will still receive security support from the Debian maintainers and you can use the versions from http://mozilla.debian.net if you want. |
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| 17:04.08 | _16aR_ | Hi |
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| 17:05.01 | BlueG | It seems like I read something the other day about the problem of wireless chips that require non-free firmware and how hard it was to find ones that don't. |
| 17:05.32 | BlueG | There was a list of wireless chipsets that work with completely free software, but I can't seem to locate it now. |
| 17:05.33 | _16aR_ | Does someone has the same problem as me with mdadm ? My device is /dev/md0, but mdadm --examine --scan give /dev/md/0 which doesn't exist. Thus, update-initramfs will fail because he won't find the device mdadm will give you |
| 17:05.46 | GNU\colossus | babilen, I was using icedove from mozilla.debian.net, but the latest release (if it still happens to be based on Thunderbird 5.0) has multiple very relevant CVEs that aren't fixed in there. also, there's no working enigmail release available. I asked the maintainers if/how one could help, but never received a reply back. :( |
| 17:06.25 | BlueG | Can anyone point me to some information on that? Next time I buy a wireless receiver, I want to know that it will work without having to install non-free firmware. |
| 17:07.17 | babilen | GNU\colossus: I am not involved in the mozilla team at all and can't really help you with that. (I also don't really use their software) -- If you want to help the team you might want to pop into #debian-mozilla (irc.oftc.net) or (even better!) write to their mailing list. |
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| 17:09.16 | abrotman | GNU\colossus: you can also submit patches via the BTS |
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| 17:11.52 | Mohsen_Hassani | How can I get the version of installed espeak? |
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| 17:14.09 | LtL | Mohsen_Hassani: dpkg -s espeak |
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| 17:17.43 | zykotick9 | Mohsen_Hassani: alternativly, with a little less info, you can use "apt-cache policy espeak" |
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| 17:28.10 | Mohsen_Hassani | Can I see the version of packages using apt-cache search? |
| 17:28.48 | abrotman | apt-cache show or apt-cache policy |
| 17:28.59 | BlueG | Where can I find a list of wireless chipsets supported by debian without non-free firmware, etc? |
| 17:29.18 | abrotman | BlueG: it's not many, mostly atheros stuff |
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| 17:32.18 | BlueG | abrotman, yea, I read something about it the other day and I could swear I saw a list of chipsets that were known to be supported, but I can't seem to find it today. |
| 17:33.32 | abrotman | BlueG: maybe the wiki |
| 17:33.33 | abrotman | ? |
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| 17:34.08 | BlueG | ah-ha, I think it was http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 17:37.27 | karlpinc | (Then the problem becomes trying to figure out what products contain the desired chipsets. :-/ |
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| 17:38.19 | johndoe | how would i go abound installing oracle jdk7? |
| 17:38.22 | johndoe | * about |
| 17:40.20 | abrotman | judd: versions java-package |
| 17:40.21 | judd | Package: java-package on i386 -- lenny/contrib: 0.42; sid/contrib: 0.50; wheezy/contrib: 0.50 |
| 17:40.44 | johndoe | i forgot to tell, im running squeeze on amd64 |
| 17:40.47 | abrotman | johndoe: Debian can no longer distribute the official JDK .. you'll have to download it and install it yourself |
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| 17:40.53 | johndoe | abrotman: kk, thanks |
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| 17:47.00 | daGrevis | Hello! I just bought Logitech webcam c250. Video works, but I can't get microphone to work. Can anybody help me please? |
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| 17:47.03 | Mohsen_Hassani | How can I get support for espeak package? Seems there is not channel for it #espeak!? |
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| 17:54.38 | emper0r_ | hi, with many maildir boxes of my users have very slowlly server to show in webmail app, i move all old-data from +6 month before, to other path... how can i show like archive of mailman this maildir directly with filesystem.. i don't want to install other imap to check old mail... any idea? |
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| 17:55.59 | emper0r_ | or if exist any webmail to can read directly the maildir path and not connect by imap way |
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| 17:56.47 | acx0 | not sure if i'm just being paranoid, but would I be introducing any security vulnerabililties by publishing my ssh config in a public vcs? it contains some host aliases that I use for ssh-ing to different machines on my home network |
| 17:57.02 | acx0 | for example, 192.168.1.xxx is host A, 192.168.1.yyy is host B, etc |
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| 17:57.39 | daGrevis | Can anyone please help me with getting logitech webcam c250's mic to work on debian 6? |
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| 17:59.57 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: is it connected to your sound card or is it a separate sound card included in your webcam? |
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| 18:00.41 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, it's connected to my computer via USB. |
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| 18:01.29 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: does it show up in alsamixer? |
| 18:02.28 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, I'm not sure because I don't know the name of it. Can I somehow find out the name of it? |
| 18:03.03 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: lsusb should show it |
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| 18:03.42 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, Alsa mixer looks like this... http://i.imgur.com/Wo08E.png |
| 18:04.09 | _16aR_ | acx0, yes I guess it would |
| 18:04.19 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, lsusb gives me `Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:0804 Logitech, Inc. Webcam C250` |
| 18:04.34 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: the webcam should show up as a seprate device. See if there are any more devices in the scroll list |
| 18:05.41 | acx0 | _16aR_: do you know if it's possible to source another file from within the ssh config? |
| 18:06.27 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, scroll list of alsa mixer or lsusb cmd? |
| 18:06.39 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: of alsa mixer |
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| 18:09.31 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, I selected all possible devices and turn them on on max volume... still micro doesn't work. And there's nothing that sounds like my web cam as well. :( |
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| 18:10.38 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: ok, I think I'm out of ideas then, I'm afraid |
| 18:11.06 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: where there any other devices in the scroll list? |
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| 18:13.34 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, well - http://i.imgur.com/Cq60L.png . I tried to turn it on, but it doesn't help. |
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| 18:15.25 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: it is not disabled (there is an icon with a red circle and a cross)? |
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| 18:16.12 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, i just screw up everything... ;D I can't hear any sound neither. Are there any way to reset alsa mixer anyhow? |
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| 18:17.21 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: I don't know. Try to remember what you where fiddling with ;) |
| 18:18.18 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, if it would be so easy. ;D By logic, there should be some file that holds info about settings. I should just replace it with standard from debian.org or something |
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| 18:18.53 | Storfiskaren | it has probably been setup when you installed your system |
| 18:19.30 | kleanchap | how do you convert a dos text file to linux? |
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| 18:20.21 | acx0 | kleanchap: you can either manually remove the ^M's with sed, or just use a program like dos2unix |
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| 18:20.39 | acx0 | kleanchap: or if you use vim, open the file with it, and do 'set ff=unix' |
| 18:21.09 | gnarface | kleanchap: or you could just open it in emacs and not care |
| 18:21.33 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, heh. fixed sound. now mic again... really no thoughts? |
| 18:21.40 | kleanchap | I did it in VI and thought dos2unix was installed by default on my debian. |
| 18:21.59 | kleanchap | What package is dos2unix listed under? |
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| 18:22.14 | injureddeer | where can i setup script for exec when shutdown? |
| 18:22.37 | acx0 | kleanchap: the package is also called 'dos2unix' |
| 18:23.28 | abrotman | injureddeer: time for you to learn about init scripts .. have fun! |
| 18:23.30 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: the last screen shot indicated that the mic was disabled (there was a cross over it, the right icon below it( |
| 18:23.30 | kleanchap | acx0, Thnx |
| 18:23.48 | injureddeer | abrotman: i need it asap, plz |
| 18:23.57 | injureddeer | can u just say me? |
| 18:23.59 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: other than that, I'm sorry. Wait for some real sound-ninja |
| 18:24.01 | abrotman | injureddeer: better get reading |
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| 18:24.24 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, the problem is that it automatically turns back off when i do something out of that alsa mixer. |
| 18:24.32 | injureddeer | bash: /etc/init.d/shutdown: No such file or directory |
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| 18:25.03 | abrotman | injureddeer: what OS is this? |
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| 18:26.08 | ChibaPet | injureddeer: I went to duckduckgo.com and typed "debian execute script on shutdown". The first hit seems appropriate. |
| 18:29.33 | Storfiskaren | daGrevis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8892017&postcount=14 |
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| 18:34.18 | bellman | anyone know why an aptitude full-upgrade on wheezy is asking to uninstall vlc? |
| 18:34.35 | abrotman | that's part of running testing .. |
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| 18:34.53 | bellman | ahh well i'll just not upgrade. |
| 18:34.54 | abrotman | your vlc apparently depends on a library that is being remove |
| 18:34.57 | abrotman | removed |
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| 18:35.13 | abrotman | bellman: or you could try to actually figure it out .. |
| 18:35.39 | bellman | waiting approach will not work? |
| 18:35.50 | abrotman | how long will you wait? |
| 18:36.00 | abrotman | a day? a week? a month? |
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| 18:36.39 | bellman | i guess i can just upgrade and compile a statically linked vlc from source |
| 18:36.42 | abrotman | bellman: aptitude why-not vlc ? |
| 18:36.52 | bellman | k goodidea |
| 18:36.55 | abrotman | or let it remove itself .. then try to install it again ? |
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| 18:37.25 | raz | is there a way to fix the rubygems on debian squeeze? |
| 18:37.42 | abrotman | is it broken? |
| 18:37.46 | raz | the currently shipping version is completely broken ("invalid gemspec") |
| 18:37.54 | abrotman | did you check the BTS? |
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| 18:38.34 | bellman | what is the BTS? |
| 18:38.40 | gnarface | bellman: bugs.debian.org |
| 18:38.46 | bellman | why-not doesn't give me anything... aptitude full-upgrade states it seems to want a newer vlc-nox |
| 18:38.50 | gnarface | bellman: "bug tracking system" |
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| 18:41.35 | unomystEz | for my desktop, any recommendations for or against going with wheezy over squeeze? |
| 18:41.39 | gnarface | raz: i've noticed that the ruby project as a whole and as individual members treat all packaging systems outside of Mac OS X with equal contempt. if you need to work with ruby on linux, i recommend you just get used to wiping asses |
| 18:41.52 | abrotman | unomystEz: talk to the guy that can't install VLC today |
| 18:41.57 | unomystEz | ha |
| 18:42.13 | raz | gnarface: imho debian should then just drop ruby instead of shipping a broken version |
| 18:42.18 | unomystEz | I'm running squeeze now but notice that some of the packages I like (the latest versions) are in wheezy which brings me to my question |
| 18:42.26 | abrotman | unomystEz: such as ? |
| 18:42.27 | gnarface | raz: i'm sure nobody noticed or they would have |
| 18:42.28 | unomystEz | stuff like postgresql9, vim73 vs vim72 |
| 18:42.33 | abrotman | raz: that's not going to happen |
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| 18:42.45 | abrotman | unomystEz: did you check backports.debian.org ? |
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| 18:42.58 | unomystEz | was able to find postgresql9 but not vim73 |
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| 18:43.04 | gnarface | raz: from what i recall its a relatively trivial issue to fix. took me hours to figure out though, i should have written it down, sorry. |
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| 18:43.18 | saw | !ciao |
| 18:43.18 | dpkg | it has been said that ciao is both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter. |
| 18:43.40 | abrotman | unomystEz: you could backport it yourself .. your call |
| 18:44.01 | unomystEz | or compile from source i reckon |
| 18:44.07 | abrotman | why? |
| 18:44.20 | unomystEz | just my hunch, I've never backported before |
| 18:44.33 | gnarface | unomystEz: despite what it sounds like, backporting stuff that's already working in sid or wheezy is often much easier |
| 18:44.34 | unomystEz | anyway, I'm gonna reboot and install debian 6.0.4 squeeze then |
| 18:44.39 | unomystEz | aha |
| 18:44.51 | unomystEz | ok, will be back in about 30 mins in my new system |
| 18:45.01 | gnarface | unomystEz: after you install squeeze just ask the dpkg bot in this channel about 'backports' |
| 18:45.08 | unomystEz | will do |
| 18:45.13 | unomystEz | thanks for the pointers |
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| 18:50.19 | daGrevis | Storfiskaren, I will try to install http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ . |
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| 19:15.56 | ruif13 | hi,i use debian 6 in my laptop, after 2 or 3 hours running debian the system shuts down |
| 19:16.01 | ruif13 | anyone can help? |
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| 19:19.31 | Arcenciel | Re-install. |
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| 19:23.08 | ironm | hello. Can you give short hint what IP-address is used for saving debian-installer logs using the web-method? Thank you in advance for any hints. |
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| 19:27.31 | ironm | I am getting a message like: Web server started, but network not running. |
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| 19:30.36 | ruif13 | help :S with temp :( |
| 19:30.39 | ruif13 | anyone? |
| 19:32.23 | beardy | !ask |
| 19:32.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 19:35.41 | s3a | I'm using squeeze with gnote and my note has a lot of it highlighted in green but i can't unhighlight it. this seems to be a bug and not a feature and it's not the first time i got this but i don't know/remember how to get rid of this. did anyone else experience this or know how to solve this? |
| 19:35.50 | ruif13 | ok, i have problem with temperature my laptop shutdown after 3 hours working |
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| 19:36.08 | ruif13 | i use debian 6 |
| 19:36.09 | ruif13 | :/ |
| 19:36.24 | ruif13 | anyone can help please |
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| 19:38.40 | syslq__ | ruif13: could you elaborate? |
| 19:39.07 | jhutchins_lt2 | ruif13: You can install lm-sensors and cpufrequtils, you can clean the cooling fan, intake, outlet and heatsink. |
| 19:39.13 | threadlock | ruif13: air on a can perhaps? to clean out your fan |
| 19:39.19 | syslq__ | ruif13: did you use some other operating system before and this has not happened or have you always been using debian and this has only recently started to happen |
| 19:39.32 | MrFrood | ruif13: you have checked that the fans are not clogged up? |
| 19:39.37 | syslq__ | ruif13: it sounds like HW problem not sw, like threadlock said, or your fan stoped working |
| 19:39.48 | ruif13 | hum |
| 19:40.05 | threadlock | our doesn't work as it should |
| 19:40.11 | syslq__ | ruif13: are you blocking your ventilation? like having lappy on the bed and and vent shafts are bellow |
| 19:40.53 | ruif13 | ok but i can have a widget with temperature and cooling |
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| 19:41.09 | ruif13 | in painel |
| 19:41.31 | injureddeer | where can i setup script for exec when shutdown? |
| 19:41.37 | injureddeer | in debian wheezy |
| 19:41.44 | injureddeer | bash: /etc/init.d/shutdown: No such file or directory |
| 19:41.59 | ruif13 | i try to install lm-sensors |
| 19:42.16 | ruif13 | run sensors-detect |
| 19:42.36 | ruif13 | Sorry, no sensors were detected. |
| 19:42.36 | ruif13 | This is relatively common on laptops, where thermal management is |
| 19:42.36 | ruif13 | handled by ACPI rather than the OS. |
| 19:42.50 | ruif13 | after all questions |
| 19:42.52 | threadlock | ruif13: does it go into shutdown or just switch off? |
| 19:43.08 | ruif13 | switch off |
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| 19:43.40 | syslq__ | Hmm, I thought acpi is a method for os to controle hw rather than bios since it know's more of it |
| 19:43.40 | threadlock | ok, then you probably won't see anything in the logs |
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| 19:44.12 | threadlock | 'acpi -t' will give you the current temperature |
| 19:44.27 | syslq__ | ruif13: I work with laptops a lot and if I might say, the most problems are related to dust in vents or vents being blocked |
| 19:44.42 | ruif13 | threadlock acpi -t nothing |
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| 19:44.55 | ruif13 | ok syslq__ i think that is the problem |
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| 19:45.36 | ruif13 | but i need to install the temp monitor |
| 19:46.15 | syslq__ | ruif13: it usually is :) |
| 19:46.45 | ruif13 | http://pastebin.com/k2vuutRz |
| 19:46.58 | ruif13 | sensors |
| 19:47.14 | kleanchap | How do you grep for a string starting with a specific pattern? |
| 19:47.29 | ruif13 | but anyone can help installing lm-sensors? |
| 19:48.36 | syslq__ | kleanchap: with regex grep "^pattern.*" |
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| 19:49.00 | syslq__ | kleanchap: if you have some regex operator/reserved word like . in the pattern you need to escape it with \ |
| 19:49.17 | unomystEz | well, I installed debian 6 xfce desktop on my desktop and when it goes to change the video mode, I lose video signal |
| 19:49.26 | unomystEz | same thing in recovery mode, any ideas? |
| 19:50.09 | syslq__ | Video mode? |
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| 19:50.19 | kleanchap | syslq_, I did try grep "^MS-" *.txt and got nothing. I do know those strings exist. |
| 19:50.24 | syslq__ | unomystEz: how do you mean change video mode" |
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| 19:51.03 | syslq__ | kleanchap: try grep -E |
| 19:51.06 | kleanchap | syslq_, I got it to work now. |
| 19:51.10 | kleanchap | syslq_, Thnx |
| 19:51.15 | syslq__ | kleanchap: yw |
| 19:51.19 | jhutchins | kleanchap: The "strings" command may be useful. |
| 19:51.25 | unomystEz | syslq_, after grub it starts the kernel output then video goes off |
| 19:51.34 | jhutchins | Oh, wait, I thought you were doing binaries. |
| 19:52.50 | unomystEz | ah, I think it's happening when loading the nouveau drivers (I have nvidia) |
| 19:53.05 | unomystEz | any way to force another video driver via grub? |
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| 19:58.57 | solar_sea | Does debian's intel video driver work with Z68 chipset and the integrated GPUs for example in core i5 ? |
| 19:59.24 | unomystEz | any way to determine fastest debian mirror? |
| 19:59.51 | unomystEz | ah got it |
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| 20:02.15 | jelly-home | solar_sea: the one from squeeze-backports might be. Can you find out the pci-id? |
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| 20:04.54 | ironm | jelly-home, hello. may I ask for the URL of squeeze-backports? |
| 20:05.07 | jelly-home | !tell ironm about bdo |
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| 20:05.23 | jelly-home | ,versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 20:05.23 | ironm | thanks a lot jelly-home |
| 20:05.24 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on i386 -- lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny8; squeeze: 2:2.13.0-6; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.17.0-1; sid: 2:2.18.0-1; experimental: 2:2.18.0-1+exp1 |
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| 20:10.53 | injureddeer | how force detect new hdd connected to pc? |
| 20:11.13 | Arcenciel | You do not "force detect" you install it correctly or not. |
| 20:11.14 | Arcenciel | :| |
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| 20:13.44 | injureddeer | Arcenciel: i connect hdd with some controler via usb |
| 20:13.51 | injureddeer | and it worked when i connect first hdd |
| 20:13.54 | injureddeer | now i wanna other and other |
| 20:13.56 | injureddeer | noone work |
| 20:14.04 | injureddeer | and back to first hdd and it dont work too anymore... |
| 20:14.15 | injureddeer | so i need do some force check/detect |
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| 20:19.00 | jelly-home | injureddeer: did you disconnect the first one in a clean way? |
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| 20:19.57 | jelly-home | injureddeer: unplug the usb, look at `dmesg` output, plug it back in, wait ~10 seconds, look at `dmesg` again |
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| 20:33.58 | unomystEz | hmm, very strange.. htop is showing -nan for cpu% usage.... |
| 20:34.58 | gnarface | unomystEz: does top? |
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| 20:41.01 | LinuxGuy2009 | OK so I tried a newer distro based on debian unstable and I found that my Maudio USB MobilePre works just fine for Ardour DAW and for browser audio including flash. But I really want debian stable cause its exactly that, stable and reliable. The main issue is that ALSA doesnt seem to work with it, but I installed pulseaudio and the system can work with it fine. All apps can work with it. Only hangup is if I want to watch youtube tutorial |
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| 20:41.23 | LinuxGuy2009 | I downloaded and installed the latest flash plugin. Didnt help. |
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| 20:41.50 | gnarface | tell LinuxGuy2009 about based on debian |
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| 20:41.55 | gnarface | dpkg tell LinuxGuy2009 about based on debian |
| 20:42.22 | LinuxGuy2009 | gnarface: Did you even read the question? |
| 20:42.54 | gnarface | LinuxGuy2009: it cut off but you can ask the dpkg bot about "alsa checklist" |
| 20:43.02 | LinuxGuy2009 | gnarface: Ill pass |
| 20:43.11 | gnarface | shrug |
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| 20:44.13 | jelly-home | LinuxGuy2009: wait... how can pulseaudio work, but plain alsa not? |
| 20:45.11 | LinuxGuy2009 | jelly-home: Well what I should have said is that my onboard audio shows up in the system tray volume preferences, but not the maudio usb device. |
| 20:45.32 | LinuxGuy2009 | jelly-home: With pulseaudio installed I can actually see it and select it. |
| 20:46.12 | GNU\colossus | I'm looking for a relay-only MTA (like ssmtp) that supports TLS and SASL, and is available in squeeze. suggestions? |
| 20:46.36 | LinuxGuy2009 | jelly-home: However when I do select the USB device for playback, and play a flash video it comes out of onboard card. |
| 20:46.57 | jelly-home | GNU\colossus: huh, and ssmtp in squeeze doesn't? Did you try nullmailer? |
| 20:48.16 | jelly-home | nah... nullmailer does not depend on either openssl, gnutls or nss so I GUESS it doesn't do TSLS |
| 20:48.22 | jelly-home | TLS dammit |
| 20:48.36 | GNU\colossus | ssmtp links against gnutls though. maybe I dun fucked up. :) |
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| 20:49.05 | jelly-home | ormaybe gnutls vs. your smarthost/submission fails somehow |
| 20:49.18 | Mohsen_Hassani | I need to install espeak package from wheezy distro on the sqeeze dirstro on my VPS. |
| 20:49.36 | jelly-home | !tell Mohsen_Hassani about ssb |
| 20:50.21 | Mohsen_Hassani | jelly-home, Googling I noticed that backports is not available for wheezy packages |
| 20:50.40 | jelly-home | Mohsen_Hassani: that's why I suggested you make your own |
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| 20:51.32 | jelly-home | mixing packages from different releases with stable sounds easier but is bound to result in tears and anger |
| 20:52.17 | jelly-home | LinuxGuy2009: oh well. You can always force all the ALSA-based apps to use pulseaudio as default output |
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| 20:54.45 | jelly-home | LinuxGuy2009: use http://paste.debian.net/158449/ as your ~/.asoundrs, quit the browser, start it anew, verify with pavucontrol it outputs to the right device via pulseaudio |
| 20:54.47 | LinuxGuy2009 | jelly-home: How do I try that? |
| 20:54.55 | LinuxGuy2009 | ok |
| 20:54.58 | jelly-home | LinuxGuy2009: sorry, ~/.asoundrc |
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| 20:55.41 | jelly-home | ,checkbackport espeak |
| 20:55.44 | judd | Backporting package espeak in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libsonic-dev. |
| 20:55.55 | jelly-home | ,checkbackport libsonic-dev |
| 20:55.56 | judd | Backporting package libsonic-dev in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
| 20:56.09 | lasers | Is there a factoid trigger for turning off recommendations/suggestions? |
| 20:56.28 | jelly-home | Mohsen_Hassani: sounds like you'll have to backport and install libsonic-dev before espeak |
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| 20:56.47 | jelly-home | lasers: /msg dpkg apt-recommends |
| 20:57.11 | lasers | jelly-home: Ty. |
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| 20:57.16 | jelly-home | yw! |
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| 21:00.00 | polyurethane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiFLatzGQdg |
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| 21:01.09 | GNU\colossus | jelly-home, ssmtp does TLS just fine. it just wasn't mentioned in its config-file's comments, so I was naively assuming the Gentoo version of it that I've been dealing with might have that tacked on/patched into their release of the program. |
| 21:01.25 | jelly-home | !ops polyurethane spam |
| 21:01.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: polyurethane spam |
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| 21:03.40 | jelly-home | thanks |
| 21:05.11 | lasers | jelly-home: It wouldn' |
| 21:05.22 | lasers | jelly-home: It wouldn't work with ~/.aptitude/config ? |
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| 21:05.59 | Mohsen_Hassani | jelly-home, the espeak package I need to install is not available in squeeze-backports. It's only in wheezy, |
| 21:06.05 | jelly-home | lasers: I have no idea; whose ~ would that have to be? |
| 21:06.05 | Mohsen_Hassani | jelly-home, http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=wheezy&arch=amd64&searchon=names&keywords=espeak |
| 21:06.38 | lasers | jelly-home: A user with sudo privilege. |
| 21:06.46 | jelly-home | Mohsen_Hassani: Yes. "/msg dpkg ssb" shows you the procedure to make your own, local backport. |
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| 21:07.55 | jelly-home | lasers: I have no idea how aptitude acts in presence of sudo or how the interactive UI handles the switch to root. |
| 21:08.06 | lasers | jelly-home: Ah okay. -R, --without-recommends Do not treat recommendations as dependencies when installing new packages (this overrides settings in /etc/apt/apt.conf and ~/.aptitude/config). Packages previously installed due to recommendations will not be removed. |
| 21:08.25 | lasers | jelly-home: I'll figure it out. Or I'll use parameters. Thanks again. |
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| 21:20.41 | unomystEz | what's the best way to install firefox in debian? |
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| 21:32.24 | s3a | why does my terminal not launch when i change hostname? as soon as i change it back in tty1, it launches again |
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| 21:41.34 | rypervenche | unomystEz: apt-get install iceweasel |
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| 21:42.13 | rypervenche | s3a: Try restarting |
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| 21:42.56 | s3a | rypervenche, i changed the hostname temporarily (i don't want to do it permanently now) and i can't reboot because there is something that i have to save and i can't save until i am done using it |
| 21:44.18 | unomystEz | rypervenche, I've been reading up on this and it seems it's based on firefox 3.5.16 and a lot of plugins won't install |
| 21:44.43 | jelly-home | s3a: which Debian release are you using? Does any other X client, like "xdpyinfo" or "xterm" work while the hostname is changed? |
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| 21:45.38 | mooglenorph | Hi, I'm trying to convert a .djvu to a ps or pdf file for printing. |
| 21:45.48 | s3a | squeeze, xdpyinfo does not work with the changed hostname but it works when i have my normal hostname |
| 21:45.52 | s3a | jelly, |
| 21:45.54 | s3a | jelly-home, |
| 21:45.59 | mooglenorph | When I use djvups, even with -level=3, the ps is like 28MB where the original file was 2.6MB |
| 21:46.15 | jelly-home | s3a: what does "echo $DISPLAY" say in a terminal? |
| 21:46.19 | mooglenorph | this is a huge blowup and my printer can't handle it... how do I convert and maintain a small size? |
| 21:46.26 | s3a | jelly-home, with which hostname? |
| 21:46.35 | jelly-home | s3a: doesn't matter |
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| 21:47.17 | s3a | jelly-home, output: :0.0 |
| 21:47.27 | debian_de | 'nabend zusammen |
| 21:47.31 | xwalk | " jelllllll;;; |
| 21:47.38 | mooglenorph | I have also tried "print to file" in evince, and the size still blows up to 28MB |
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| 21:49.23 | debian_de | i got some trouble setting up a vpn tunnel on debian |
| 21:49.36 | debian_de | can anyone help me? |
| 21:50.08 | jelly-home | s3a: the xauth cookie all apps use to connect to the X11 server has the hostname in it. When you change the hostname, the app fails to send the correct cookie, and the X server refuses the connection. Do you have the full error message from xdpyinfo? |
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| 21:50.44 | jhutchins_lt2 | I've had problems with pdf files in linux having unreasonable sizes, particularly if the file is a large image like a scanned page from sane. |
| 21:50.55 | jhutchins_lt2 | mooglenorph: ^ |
| 21:51.21 | mooglenorph | jhutchins_lt2: ugh yeah. Are there any decent tools for this available in debian? I'm running Stable. |
| 21:51.30 | s3a | jelly-home, xdpyinfo No protocol specified xdpyinfo: unable to open display ":0.0". |
| 21:52.02 | jelly-home | s3a: yeah, that might be it |
| 21:52.03 | jhutchins_lt2 | I'm not sure, but I know it's possible because I've received image scans that were images and were reasonable sizes. |
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| 21:52.32 | s3a | jelly-home, can you tell me more about what you said above because i only grasped it slightly? |
| 21:53.31 | mooglenorph | jhutchins_lt2: current;y I'm trying to use evince's print to file feature twice, once to go dvju -> ps, once to go ps -> pdf, and hoping that cuts down on the size. |
| 21:54.07 | jelly-home | s3a: each local X client uses an authorization token to be able to connect to the X server. This way, other users on the same machine can't connect to your graphical session, and they can't look at what your mouse and keyboard and windows do. |
| 21:54.09 | mooglenorph | if that doesn't work I'm going to resort to using imageMagick |
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| 21:54.23 | mooglenorph | I think I can dial up the compression using that library/tool |
| 21:54.53 | jelly-home | s3a: this token is stored in ~/.Xauthority file, or $XAUTHORITY file if that env. variable is set. |
| 21:55.53 | jelly-home | s3a: if you do "xauth list", you'll see a line like your-hostname/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 hexadecimalcookiehere |
| 21:56.13 | jelly-home | s3a: if you lose that cookie, you can't open new X apps. |
| 21:56.51 | jelly-home | s3a: if you change the hostname, the apps will try to search for the wrong cookie. |
| 21:56.58 | jhutchins_lt2 | mooglenorph: Do you have a copy of Adobe PDF software on Windows? |
| 21:57.27 | s3a | jelly-home, ok so editing that file and adding temphost/unix:1 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-2 <hexadecimalcookie> would allow me to permanently use the temphost hostname? |
| 21:57.57 | jelly-home | s3a: perhaps. |
| 21:58.28 | jelly-home | s3a: you can try to xauth add newhostname/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 <hexadecimalcookie> |
| 21:58.49 | jelly-home | just don't wipe the current one ;-) |
| 21:59.31 | s3a | jelly-home, lol well i'm on my "mission critical" computer right now so i'll try it on my other computer later |
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| 21:59.43 | s3a | ^ that's in the terminal and not the file, right? |
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| 21:59.52 | jelly-home | dude, don't change hostname on "mission critical" machines |
| 22:00.10 | s3a | jelly-home, it was a temporary thing |
| 22:00.21 | jelly-home | s3a: the file itself has a binary format -- you edit it using the "xauth" command line tool |
| 22:00.21 | s3a | i knew rebooting would bring things back to normal |
| 22:01.27 | s3a | jelly-home, i see (thanks). so, i just make up a hexadecimal number up myself? |
| 22:01.36 | s3a | o wait |
| 22:01.42 | s3a | i use the same one? |
| 22:01.45 | s3a | for both hostnames? |
| 22:01.46 | jelly-home | s3a: you have to use the exact same one |
| 22:02.00 | jelly-home | it's a password of sorts to gain access to the X server |
| 22:02.14 | s3a | ok and this will *permanently* allow me to use "newhostname" ? |
| 22:02.31 | s3a | jelly-home, |
| 22:02.38 | jelly-home | s3a: until the X server is restarted, yes |
| 22:02.49 | s3a | i consider that temporary |
| 22:02.53 | s3a | since rebooting would reset |
| 22:03.03 | jelly-home | s3a: I've never tried changing the hostname while X was running. |
| 22:03.20 | jelly-home | don't really know if it's going to work at all |
| 22:03.27 | s3a | the alternative is a chroot? |
| 22:03.44 | thewanderer1 | I tried it once... but apps refused to start from then on :P |
| 22:03.53 | s3a | thewanderer1, lol |
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| 22:05.00 | s3a | wait so, i'm confused. if I CANNOT do it while X is running and if that command ceases to work when X is restarted and rebooting restarts X, then how can I do this? |
| 22:05.17 | thewanderer1 | wait what... :P |
| 22:06.22 | jelly-home | s3a: sorry, what? |
| 22:06.52 | jhutchins_lt2 | mooglenorph: The problem is that the PDF pseudo-printers don't have much user adjustment available. |
| 22:07.05 | jelly-home | s3a: a restart of the X server will trun things back to normal, a login after that will make a new, matching cookie on the server and client sides |
| 22:07.14 | jelly-home | turn* things |
| 22:07.15 | jhutchins_lt2 | mooglenorph: All I can find is a recommendation to convert grapics to svg format before processing. |
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| 22:07.43 | jhutchins_lt2 | mooglenorph: You could probably do that with imagemagic, but I'm not sure how well it would work. |
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| 22:09.01 | s3a | jelly-home, thewanderer1 sorry for being confusing. if i understood correctly, jelly-home, you said xauth add newhostname/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 <hexadecimalcookie> will only work until X is restarted. But if I reboot, then X is restarted meaning that my change will no longer take effect. BUT thewanderer1, I understood you saying that you tried doing such a thing while X was running and got bad results. So, what am I not seeing or misunderstanding? |
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| 22:09.43 | jelly-home | s3a: he's done: changed hostname while X was running |
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| 22:10.02 | jelly-home | s3a: he's NOT done: tried to fix things as above |
| 22:10.02 | thewanderer1 | s3a, I changed my hostname while X was running, which broke launching apps. and I did not xauth |
| 22:10.13 | s3a | jelly-home, o so basically what i did? |
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| 22:10.20 | s3a | it did cause me a few problems lol |
| 22:10.20 | jelly-home | correct |
| 22:10.23 | s3a | but tty1 fixed it |
| 22:12.31 | s3a | ok so there is no such thing as changing hostname "just for now", rebooting and having my normal hostname? i'd have to change it "permanently" for the new one and then permanently again for the old one? |
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| 22:16.33 | jelly-home | s3a: no, there is such a thing, and you did it, but as you can see, it carries some consequences |
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| 22:17.15 | s3a | jelly-home, if there are consequences then who would want to do it? |
| 22:17.25 | s3a | like what's the benefit of it? |
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| 22:18.37 | jelly-home | s3a: dunno, why did YOU do it? |
| 22:19.35 | s3a | jelly-home, i assumed there were only temporary changes and didn't assume there would be "actually bad" consequences |
| 22:20.07 | s3a | i like temporaryness. i use /tmp very much for example |
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| 22:20.36 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.36 | jelly-home | !assumption |
| 22:20.36 | dpkg | from memory, assumption is the mother of all fuckups |
| 22:21.23 | s3a | nsadmin, ya 9 days & reboot for me :) |
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| 22:21.52 | s3a | jelly-home, and yes i guess |
| 22:21.57 | nsadmin | so anything you may have put in /tmp is gone |
| 22:22.16 | s3a | nsadmin, i know. i just have a lot of temporary stuff |
| 22:22.31 | s3a | like for homework help i put my problems there temporarily |
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| 22:22.55 | s3a | having to delete them myself is a pain and makes my desktop accumulate junk |
| 22:23.33 | s3a | jelly-home, so ya basically the xauth command you gave me and a reboot and i'll be "newhostname"? |
| 22:23.41 | nsadmin | why would it make your desktop do anything? |
| 22:24.06 | s3a | nsadmin, what? |
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| 22:24.52 | jelly-home | s3a: if you're going to reboot, you don't need to tamper with xauth manually |
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| 22:25.51 | nsadmin | but anyway... that's ok, I was just thinking that you're wasting this hunk of metal called a disk by being temporary like that, and I realized it -is- a way to work |
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| 22:26.44 | s3a | nsadmin, if i didn't need disk space, i'd be running everything off ram instead :P |
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| 22:27.17 | s3a | jelly-home, so wait the xauth command followed by sudo hostname newhostname is for temporary changes? |
| 22:27.27 | s3a | (sorry, don't be angry lol) |
| 22:27.49 | jelly-home | s3a: yes |
| 22:29.04 | s3a | jelly-home, o so the bad thing was to do sudo hostname newhostname without the xauth command first? |
| 22:31.24 | jelly-home | s3a: changing the hostname is not neccesarily bad, it's just that some things depend on it |
| 22:31.35 | jelly-home | and you just found out about one of those things |
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| 22:32.40 | s3a | jelly-home, so it's kind of like a synchronization issue? to make sure everything agrees with each other? |
| 22:33.10 | jelly-home | yes |
| 22:33.23 | s3a | ok so that was the temporary way. how would i do it permanently? |
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| 22:35.18 | killfoo_ | hi! apt-get checks the mirror for multiple languages i never use. is there a way to check only for specified langs? |
| 22:35.38 | s3a | wait a minute. is the hostname command the temporary part and the xauth command is permanent as in the file is modified and doesn't change back unless i do so manually? |
| 22:35.42 | s3a | jelly-home, |
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| 22:38.26 | jelly-home | s3a: normally the file is set up when X starts and you log in. You don't have to do anything to it if you keep the same hostname during the whole duration of the X session |
| 22:39.01 | jelly-home | s3a: so even if you mess with it now, it won't matter after a reboot or restart of X |
| 22:39.16 | s3a | i see. makes sense. |
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| 22:39.48 | s3a | ok so i could "hot swap" between two hostnames if i do the xauth command, right? |
| 22:39.57 | s3a | and what's the permanent way? |
| 22:40.18 | jelly-home | !hostname |
| 22:40.18 | dpkg | Use "hostname foo" to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot (create /etc/hostname if it does not exist) and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set up local translations for a FQDN. See also 'man 1 hostname', /etc/mailname. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname |
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| 22:42.30 | s3a | jelly-home, ok i'll look at the link later. just before i go, is the answer yes to my "hot swap" question? |
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| 22:44.10 | jelly-home | s3a: no... once you have both cookies in place, they stay there and there's no need to change any of them further |
| 22:44.43 | jelly-home | that's ALL under the untested assumption that merely setting the cookie will actually help |
| 22:44.46 | s3a | no, i meant NOT modifying the ~/.Xauthority file |
| 22:44.52 | s3a | but just using the hostname command |
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| 22:45.27 | jelly-home | s3a: I was answering <s3a> ok so i could "hot swap" between two hostnames if i do the xauth command, right? |
| 22:45.49 | s3a | having reread my question, it can be misleading |
| 22:45.59 | s3a | i meant this: |
| 22:46.15 | jelly-home | s3a: you can hostname foo; hostname foo2 etc. as much as you wish |
| 22:46.22 | frikinz | Hi. anyone know how I could get kernel logs to be redirected to usb? booting problems.. |
| 22:46.40 | s3a | keeping ~/.Xauthority static/constant (basically letting it be) and just running hostname hn1 and then deciding i want to change my name again so hostname hn2 |
| 22:46.56 | s3a | jelly-home, as much as i wish as long as they're in the ~/.Xauthority file |
| 22:47.00 | s3a | right? |
| 22:47.10 | jelly-home | s3a: yes |
| 22:47.38 | frikinz | ok, getting a usb serial converter |
| 22:47.46 | s3a | jelly-home, ok thanks. this was very helpful :) |
| 22:47.55 | s3a | also thanks thewanderer1 |
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| 22:56.11 | pseubodot | bklist |
| 22:56.13 | pseubodot | blist |
| 22:56.25 | pseubodot | hmm. sometimes that doesn't work. especially when I'm in the wrong window. :P |
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| 22:59.34 | s3a | pseubodot, are you trying to run blkid? (you need root) |
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| 22:59.55 | s3a | if not, ignore me |
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| 23:02.46 | jelly-home | which player should I use to play .xm or .it or .mod tracker formats with decent quality? |
| 23:03.05 | jelly-home | it's: not mikmod. |
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| 23:03.55 | pseubodot | s3a: nope. am running bitlbee. |
| 23:04.18 | s3a | pseubodot, don't know about that sorry |
| 23:04.34 | pseubodot | s3a: IM<->IRC gateway |
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| 23:04.53 | s3a | ya i just checked :0 |
| 23:04.55 | s3a | :)* |
| 23:05.07 | s3a | anyways, back to homework for me ;) |
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| 23:09.01 | inigo | jelly-home, vlc? timidity? not sure about .it |
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| 23:23.40 | cramo | If I connect a HDD with my Debian and do not mount file system, then what are the possibilities to write to this device? One would be dd, but anything other? |
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| 23:25.09 | cramo | I ask this because I read about "write blockers"(http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Write_Blockers), but does not see match difference from connecting the HDD with my PC.. |
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| 23:41.49 | jelly-home | cramo: anyone with access to root user or a user that is member of disk group can write to the device |
| 23:42.31 | jelly-home | cramo: write blockers are used to ensure to writing takes place, regardless of the software tools used |
| 23:42.38 | jelly-home | s/to/no/ |
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| 23:43.36 | cramo | jelly-home, ok, I see. I was playing with hdparm "-r" option as this would do exactly what I was looking for, but this does not seem to work: http://pastebin.com/q65yB5Xd |
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| 23:45.11 | jelly-home | cramo: what did you expect would happen? |
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| 23:46.41 | factor | Anyone know a libgd like lib |
| 23:46.55 | factor | cant seems to compile libgd on my mips box |
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| 23:48.05 | jelly-home | factor: what's wrong with Debian's build? |
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| 23:48.26 | factor | I use the debian source, but I get an error at the end. |
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| 23:48.32 | factor | I think it uses the wrong headers |
| 23:48.40 | cramo | jelly-home, I would like to connect a HDD to my system and then ensure, that nothing can write on it. Basically similar thing as described here: http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Write_Blockers |
| 23:48.41 | JordiGH | How do you netinst over WPA wireless? |
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| 23:48.57 | ryao | How many Debian developers are there? |
| 23:49.11 | jelly-home | cramo: use a physical blocker device, nothing else will do |
| 23:49.17 | factor | ./.libs/libgd.so: undefined reference to `_IO_getc' |
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| 23:49.18 | factor | ./.libs/libgd.so: undefined reference to `_IO_putc' |
| 23:49.18 | factor | ./.libs/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__isoc99_sscanf' |
| 23:49.18 | JordiGH | ryao: Around 1k. I think db.debian.org can tell you the exact number. |
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| 23:49.36 | ryao | JordiGH: Thanks. |
| 23:49.39 | factor | it makes the libs , but I think it grabs some wrong headers somewheree |
| 23:49.42 | jelly-home | factor: did you install all the build dependencies? |
| 23:49.48 | factor | yes |
| 23:49.52 | ryao | JordiGH: This includes package maintainers, right? |
| 23:50.02 | factor | no problem with it compiling my mlibc does not have this functions |
| 23:50.11 | JordiGH | ryao: DMs? No. |
| 23:50.23 | jelly-home | factor: you're using an alternate libc? |
| 23:50.24 | factor | so the libs is kinda messed up |
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| 23:50.29 | factor | yes |
| 23:50.59 | jelly-home | well of course the symbols will be messed up |
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| 23:51.30 | factor | so the configure does not completley math |
| 23:51.38 | factor | I want something simpler than libgd |
| 23:51.44 | factor | does this exist |
| 23:51.44 | jelly-home | factor: make sure you're also using your custom libc's headers then, eh, you're basically building for a different platform |
| 23:52.09 | factor | all the binaries are MIPS if I read the bindaries |
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| 23:52.33 | factor | just does not have the same newer functions as the older ulibc I have |
| 23:53.09 | factor | will check the header pointers in the make file |
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| 23:54.12 | Gigio | io sono leggenda |
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| 23:54.24 | ruif13 | hi, help need with lm-sensors :/ |
| 23:54.36 | ruif13 | fan doesn't work only appears 0 RPM |
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| 23:58.49 | Vasistha | n/m, what I want is -F |
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| 23:59.57 | *** join/#debian elise-- (~el@12.53.192.218) |
