| 00:00.10 | gnarface | ,versions libssl1.0.0 |
| 00:00.11 | judd | Package: libssl1.0.0 on i386 -- sid: 1.0.0g-1; wheezy: 1.0.0g-1 |
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| 00:03.10 | gnarface | ok so interesting gotcha |
| 00:03.50 | gnarface | don't use reprepro and apt-cacher-ng on the same host unless you want apt to confuse your backports repo with your caching proxy and just use both |
| 00:04.00 | gnarface | sigh |
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| 00:04.40 | gnarface | is that even for real? |
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| 00:04.47 | gnarface | must be hallucinating |
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| 00:17.48 | polyurethane | When I try to start a program through vnc it says 'Fork: failed to allocate memory' does anybody know why? |
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| 00:18.46 | nsadmin | you're out of memory? |
| 00:19.02 | polyurethane | nsadmin: how do I check how my I am using up? |
| 00:19.32 | aBound | polyurethane, Open a terminal and type: top |
| 00:19.32 | nsadmin | maybe that's in ps aux... and for totals you can look at free |
| 00:20.05 | aBound | If you have htop it's a better alternative to top. |
| 00:20.46 | polyurethane | nsadmin: aBound: http://pastebin.com/qaWS1cdX |
| 00:20.55 | polyurethane | it says i'm only using 200mb ram on the panel |
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| 00:24.28 | aBound | I'm not familiar with using a VNC I can't correct the error given that aspect. But seems memory isn't the problem if you're only using 200MB out of whatever else you have. |
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| 00:25.15 | l0n | aBound: unless it's a VPS with only 256MB RAM ;) |
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| 00:27.03 | aBound | l0n, That's a possibility too I couldn't find any errors subjected to that issue through Google anywhere. |
| 00:27.19 | polyurethane | It could be that aBound l0n |
| 00:27.31 | polyurethane | They have given me 10GB HDD when I was promised 50GB and it said 50GB on the panel |
| 00:28.25 | aBound | Have you checked with the hosting site? |
| 00:29.27 | aBound | grep don't leave home without it. ;) |
| 00:29.40 | polyurethane | aBound |
| 00:29.46 | polyurethane | http://pastebin.com/6GjAxd87 |
| 00:29.52 | polyurethane | why is that happening when I try to apt-get update? |
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| 00:30.41 | aBound | I'm guessing the PPA is invalid or the software sources link doesn't exist. |
| 00:31.25 | polyurethane | PPA = + |
| 00:31.27 | polyurethane | ? |
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| 00:33.40 | aBound | PPA = Personal Package Archives. |
| 00:33.56 | abrotman | PPA are not meant for Debian |
| 00:34.18 | abrotman | polyurethane: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 00:35.06 | polyurethane | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/AFfVw3wS |
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| 00:35.48 | abrotman | polyurethane: where did you get that second sourcE? |
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| 00:35.52 | abrotman | and you really shouldn't be using ftp.debian.org |
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| 00:36.21 | abrotman | polyurethane: where is the server? |
| 00:36.30 | polyurethane | i haven't done anything with it abramart |
| 00:36.32 | polyurethane | abrotman* let me check |
| 00:36.38 | sha0lin | it's not really a debian question but since the xen chan is dead, i'll ask here: how can i fix that error: Error: Device 0 (vif) could not be connected. Hotplug scripts not working. |
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| 00:36.45 | sha0lin | i have that since i migrated my domu |
| 00:36.57 | polyurethane | US abrot |
| 00:36.58 | abrotman | polyurethane: /msg dpkg squeeze sources.list ... replace yours with what the bot gives you .. |
| 00:37.00 | polyurethane | abrotman* |
| 00:37.07 | abrotman | US is not a location ... it's a huge country :) |
| 00:37.15 | polyurethane | isn't a country a location o.O |
| 00:37.21 | abrotman | "I'm from Europe" |
| 00:37.34 | polyurethane | D: |
| 00:37.40 | abrotman | polyurethane: use the sources the bot give you |
| 00:37.50 | polyurethane | will do |
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| 00:38.55 | aBound | Looks like I gotta read more often to learn some things. :) |
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| 00:39.16 | polyurethane | I get this update now when I try to update abrotman |
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| 00:39.29 | polyurethane | http://pastebin.com/5xX283Zt |
| 00:39.59 | abrotman | wtf kind of VPS is that? |
| 00:40.08 | abrotman | and if yu hit ctrl-c and do it agian ? |
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| 00:40.31 | polyurethane | a different error |
| 00:40.46 | abrotman | sounds like a lovely system .. |
| 00:40.51 | polyurethane | mmh, they're quite.. bad |
| 00:41.04 | darkelfjuggalo | ugh, i move this netbook even slightly in console it freezes up, when i restart installer and enter back into the console no partitions are found to be able to install the grub? |
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| 00:41.12 | polyurethane | abrotman |
| 00:41.13 | polyurethane | http://stirkbin.com/b13196 |
| 00:41.17 | tdrusk | I am writing a program that generates an html file that the user can print out. The table contains colors in each cell, but when I do a print preview the colors are gone. How can I get them to print as well? |
| 00:41.35 | abrotman | polyurethane: is the bzip2 package installled? |
| 00:41.49 | polyurethane | yep |
| 00:41.55 | abrotman | tdrusk: is it a color printer? |
| 00:42.01 | abrotman | polyurethane: i'd contact your hoster |
| 00:42.17 | polyurethane | not sure what to write D: |
| 00:42.18 | gnarface | tdrusk: in your print preferences you have to enable printing of background colors - its off by default in pretty much every browser ever since forever, including all versions of iceweasel in debian |
| 00:42.20 | tdrusk | abrotman: right now I am just trying to print to pdf. |
| 00:43.04 | abrotman | polyurethane: tell them what you're doing, you're getting weird errors .. that stuff shouldn't be happening |
| 00:43.16 | abrotman | it's not a functional VPS |
| 00:44.02 | polyurethane | alright, is there a possibility I have screwed it up abrotman? I'm a newbie when it comes to linux |
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| 00:44.36 | aBound | :P |
| 00:45.05 | abrotman | polyurethane: have you done anytihng wiht the system yet? seems like it'd be easy for them to reimage it ? |
| 00:45.36 | polyurethane | umm abrotman, I have just followed this guide and nothing more |
| 00:45.55 | abrotman | polyurethane: right, that's why i'm telling you to contact your hosting provider |
| 00:46.12 | tdrusk | gnarface: It doesn't seem to stick. Every time I print it goes back. Also, I checked in about:config and printer_Print_to_File.print_bgcolor is true. |
| 00:46.20 | polyurethane | http://news.metaparadigma.de/linux-setting-up-a-debian-vnc-server-237/ abrotman |
| 00:46.24 | polyurethane | I did abrotman :-) thanks for all the help |
| 00:46.31 | polyurethane | much appreciated |
| 00:47.10 | gnarface | tdrusk: i got nothing then, sorry |
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| 01:17.47 | Guest36969 | what's the difference between linux-image-3.2.0-2-rt-686-pae and linux-image-rt-686-pae ? the last one is the "generic package" and the rt-kernel package will autoupdate? |
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| 01:18.42 | dvs | Guest36969: The second package with automatically update to the latest version |
| 01:18.56 | abrotman | the latter is a metapackage |
| 01:19.10 | Guest36969 | dvs, ok, so thisis the package more interesting, right? |
| 01:19.19 | dvs | yes |
| 01:19.41 | abrotman | more interesting indeed |
| 01:20.09 | nevyn | eww pae? |
| 01:20.22 | pyg | Linux newb here... How would you know if a library is successfully installed? Or if it's installed at all? Trying to install nginx and it's giving me an error, quick googling told me it's missing dependencies, but I (thought) I installed PCRE lib already... |
| 01:20.25 | nevyn | linux-image-3.2.0-2-rt-amd64 won't work for you? |
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| 01:21.21 | aBound | pyg, Wouldn't using synaptic show which libraries are installed? |
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| 01:21.56 | Guest36969 | nevyn, what's the dfference? (my up us a core i5, and my system is 32 bits) |
| 01:21.57 | pyg | aBound: How would I do that? |
| 01:22.33 | aBound | I would figure you can install Synaptic and search for the missing libraries or check to see if PCRE is in the repository. |
| 01:22.48 | nevyn | Guest36969: so you can run a 64bit kernel with a 32bit userland |
| 01:22.52 | pyg | Ah, so I'd have to install Synaptic first (or rather, get the sys admin to do it--I don't have root). |
| 01:23.41 | aBound | You can see if Synaptic is installed by default but it will probably require root privileges to access it. |
| 01:23.43 | Guest36969 | nevyn, and it gives.. what? waht's the difference with that? (and by the way, which are the differences between pae and amd64?) |
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| 01:24.00 | jpinx | pyg: if you don't have root - how did you install any library? |
| 01:24.04 | dvs | !pae |
| 01:24.04 | dpkg | Physical Address Extension (PAE) is an x86 processor feature allowing more than 4 gigabytes of physical memory to be used. Linux supports PAE since version 2.3.23 (up to 64 GB of memory on 32-bit systems). PAE is supported by the Intel Pentium Pro/II/III/4/4M/D, Xeon, Core and Atom; AMD Geode NX, Athlon (K7), Duron, Opteron, Sempron, Turion and Phenom; Transmeta Efficeon; VIA C7 and some others. Ask me about <bigmem>, <686-pae>. |
| 01:24.05 | abrotman | pae is 32bit, -amdy64 is 64bit |
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| 01:24.22 | pyg | jpinx: configure --prefix=$HOME/local && make && make install |
| 01:24.51 | pyg | jpinx: Then while configuring nginx I simply add --with--pcre=$HOME/local/lib/ to the config |
| 01:24.57 | Guest36969 | abrotman thanks |
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| 01:25.12 | nevyn | pae is a 32bit mode with 36 bits of memory addressing 64gig totall addressable (4gig == 32bits * 4bits (16) == 64gig) |
| 01:25.37 | nevyn | Guest36969: it however restricts an individual process to no more than 4gig of ram. |
| 01:25.51 | abrotman | 2GB? |
| 01:25.51 | Guest36969 | nevyn, but I inly have 6gig of RAm in total... |
| 01:26.05 | nevyn | abrotman: ? |
| 01:26.16 | abrotman | thought it wsa 2GB per process for 32bit ? |
| 01:26.23 | nevyn | abrotman: 4 |
| 01:26.39 | darkelfjuggalo | Is there away to save a Tomboy Note or Notebook to the Desktop for quick Reference? |
| 01:26.41 | nevyn | abrotman: linux supports 4+0 with segmented addressing but the whole thing is NASTY |
| 01:26.50 | abrotman | shocked, really |
| 01:27.48 | gnarface | also PAE seriously breaks some video cards |
| 01:27.51 | Guest36969 | neI'm using the 32bit kernel becasue I read somewhere that module support were better than in amd64 mode, only for that, I'm not running big memory systems so... |
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| 01:28.25 | aBound | The limit for 32-Bit is 4GB usually but some OS's might read it as 3.5GB. |
| 01:29.01 | gnarface | aBound: that's just cause windows has to reserve a ton of memory |
| 01:29.24 | pyg | Here's a quick question, is there a flag I can pass to cd to return to my *previous* working directory? |
| 01:29.35 | dvs | - |
| 01:29.41 | ArmOrAttAk | cd - |
| 01:29.44 | gnarface | ooh neat |
| 01:29.49 | pyg | Thanks :) |
| 01:29.52 | abrotman | - |
| 01:29.55 | abrotman | ~ |
| 01:29.56 | Guest36969 | pyg cd ~ (that is alt gr + ?) |
| 01:30.04 | aBound | gnarface, Good thing I don't use Windows. ;) |
| 01:30.08 | abrotman | pyg: popd, pushd |
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| 01:30.45 | pyg | abrotman: ooohh, thanks. That's nifty :)! |
| 01:31.05 | abrotman | indeed it is |
| 01:31.19 | Guest36969 | gnarface, does pae breaj some video cards? how? |
| 01:31.26 | nevyn | Guest36969: cd does the same thing |
| 01:31.29 | abrotman | pyg: and you can really use it more than just the previous directory .. |
| 01:31.31 | nevyn | ~ is implied |
| 01:31.45 | nevyn | and pushd/popd are neat and occasionally useful |
| 01:32.42 | pyg | Yeah, I can see it coming handy if I know in advance I'll have to traverse back through a particular chain of directories. But it seems more gimmicky than directly useful. I like cd -, heh. |
| 01:33.21 | gnarface | Guest36969: i forget exactly, but it probably had something to do with 3d hardware acceleration |
| 01:34.12 | Guest36969 | gnarface, and it is said that 64bit mode breaks a lot of kernel drivers so... |
| 01:34.12 | abrotman | pyg: popd/pushd are more useful when you don't want to open multiple terminals and can't install screen |
| 01:34.33 | gnarface | Guest36969: in both cases this is unlikely to be a problem on modern hardware |
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| 01:37.11 | pyg | abrotman: Hmm, but you can only pop through the directly in the order you pushed it in, correct? Seems a bit inflexible to me. Fortunately I do have screen installed (or rather, my admin has it installed :P) |
| 01:37.49 | gnarface | Guest36969: these days most people's hardware and modules are pretty good on 64-bit but i recall specifically a problem with older ati or nvidia hardware where you'd get frequent/random IO locks or something like that unless you disabled PAE because it would try to use that instead of MTRR |
| 01:37.52 | karlpinc | pyg: No, you can rotate the stack as well as pushing and popping. |
| 01:38.00 | aBound | Is there a list of packages I can see for Debian Squeeze on their Debian's website? |
| 01:38.07 | dvs | has got to learn screen someday |
| 01:38.10 | aBound | on Debian's website** |
| 01:38.13 | gnarface | aBound: packages.debian.org |
| 01:38.25 | gnarface | aBound: also the repos are browseable manually through a http or ftp client |
| 01:38.32 | aBound | Awesome thanks. |
| 01:38.57 | abrotman | dvs: screen -Rd .. that's the basic way .. ctrl-a->p/n to switch screens .. now you can use screen :) |
| 01:38.58 | Guest36969 | gnarface, I'm using a brand new laptop, but I get random blocks... may be the kernel? |
| 01:39.00 | aBound | Interesting to know for those who may do a network install. :) |
| 01:39.25 | dvs | cool! |
| 01:39.53 | gnarface | Guest36969: random locks you mean? could be anything really from buggy firmware to buggy drivers to overheating |
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| 01:39.59 | karlpinc | dvs: If you're an emacs guy you want "escape \036\136" in your ~/.screenrc file to make the screen escape char ctrl-^ instead of ctrl-a. After that it's painless. |
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| 01:40.41 | Guest36969 | gnarface, I think its my graphi card or processor overheating, but I don't know how to verify this |
| 01:41.03 | killown | about cups, I was using debian 5.0 and the find printer could find the "lexmark x656 de" fine, but I am on debian 6.0 now and I can't find this printer |
| 01:41.05 | dvs | karlpinc: I'd rather learn the standard keyboard layout |
| 01:41.42 | karlpinc | dvs: ctrl-a conflicts with emacs go-to-beginning-of-line, which is used all the time for command line editing. |
| 01:41.52 | gnarface | Guest36969: lm_sensors is the package that you'd start with for monitoring temperatures. you probably want to make sure acpi is fully working and your fans are coming on at the right times too - some modern hardware requires acpi to be functional just to cool itself |
| 01:42.03 | karlpinc | dvs: (You could redefine it in emacs, but that's crazy.) |
| 01:42.42 | gnarface | i thought bash switched from vi line handling to emacs line handling by default like... years ago? |
| 01:43.08 | gnarface | in who's linux world is ctrl-a no longer "go to beginning of line?" |
| 01:43.17 | gnarface | i even have it doing that in firefox |
| 01:43.22 | karlpinc | gnarface: Yes, the default is emacs. But screen breaks this. Hence if you use emacs you frob ~/.screenrc,. |
| 01:43.23 | gnarface | er i mean iceweasel |
| 01:43.44 | gnarface | oh so you can run screen in the emacs terminal? |
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| 01:43.55 | gnarface | didn't even think of that |
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| 01:44.09 | Guest36969 | gnarface, using debian testing, lm_sensors is not part of the disto right now, and ACPI... it is configured in /etc/ACPI? |
| 01:44.09 | karlpinc | gnarface: You can run screen at the bash prompt, at which point the default readline ctrl-a does something different. |
| 01:44.17 | abrotman | karlpinc: why not 'fix' emacS? :) |
| 01:44.34 | gnarface | dpkg: start a browser war |
| 01:44.34 | dpkg | Opera is more user-friendly than Amaya! |
| 01:44.41 | abrotman | darn tootin it is |
| 01:45.13 | karlpinc | abrotman: :) Because ctrl-^ is the only ctrl sequence left unbound in emacs .... Really. |
| 01:45.21 | gnarface | Guest36969: i know frightfully little about acpi other than you probably need acpid installed |
| 01:45.52 | abrotman | karlpinc: thanks for reminding me why i don't use it :) |
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| 01:48.18 | darkelfjuggalo | I am currently in CONSOLE via USB netinstal trying to install GRUB the following link is commands put in according to dpkg and the result http://paste.debian.net/159631/ i do not know how to back out of chroot /target to mount the /sys |
| 01:48.38 | karlpinc | abrotman: Yah. Sadly, it's hard to even try to talk about emacs/vi without signs and portents and flamewars from the heavens. It'd be fun to try, but it's probably all been said anyway. |
| 01:48.59 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: ctrl-d to exit your chroot |
| 01:49.26 | darkelfjuggalo | ok do i need to mount /target/sys? |
| 01:49.33 | abrotman | karlpinc: doesn't bother me .. i'm perfectly happy with my editor |
| 01:50.10 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: probably ... |
| 01:50.11 | karlpinc | abrotman: Me too. But I can't figure out why people actually like vi. |
| 01:50.42 | boudiccas | cos they're masochists |
| 01:50.46 | karlpinc | abrotman: The subject is like a toothache that keeps coming back. |
| 01:51.06 | dvs | wonders why the GRUB mount point can't be selected from the dialog box. |
| 01:51.07 | gnarface | i can see why people like vi i just can't see why they all keep trying to stop me from using emacs |
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| 01:51.32 | boudiccas | because they haven't seen the light yet |
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| 01:51.58 | boudiccas | emacs rulez |
| 01:52.01 | abrotman | says the person running kde ... |
| 01:52.16 | boudiccas | who? me? no, i'm on gnome now |
| 01:52.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | gnarface: for teh same reason i have mormons and such showing up at my door to convert me (: |
| 01:52.26 | gnarface | once actually got fired because the windows port of emacs was able to copy+paste a large file without corrupting it after the windows port of vi failed to do the same thing for the project manager - i think he didn't like being shown up on a matter of principle |
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| 01:52.33 | abrotman | karlpinc: you have to try it .. i've had the misery of using both .. trying to use commands from one in the other is not a happy day :) |
| 01:52.33 | dvs | !beer boudiccas |
| 01:52.34 | dpkg | pulls out a nicely refined Dogfishhead 90min IPA for boudiccas |
| 01:52.57 | darkelfjuggalo | ok mount cant find /target/sys in /etc/fstab. do i need to bind something or rebind /target/dev then bind /target/sys to mount /target/sys? |
| 01:53.16 | boudiccas | haven'thad a beer for oh, at least two days now |
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| 01:53.34 | dvs | *gasp* |
| 01:53.41 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: i thought you needed to bind dev, sys, AND proc to be honest, but i've seen conflicting advice... |
| 01:53.52 | boudiccas | but i've got two bottles of nice red wine standing in the kitchen just waiting to be drunk |
| 01:54.08 | darkelfjuggalo | Thank you gnarface i'll try to bind all three |
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| 01:54.20 | darkelfjuggalo | dev sys proc in that order, correct? |
| 01:54.29 | gnarface | i don't think the order matters |
| 01:54.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | it doesnt |
| 01:55.14 | boudiccas | one ring to bind all three |
| 01:55.35 | darkelfjuggalo | one ring? |
| 01:55.39 | nyingen | for some reason the default X cursor on my system is the spinner |
| 01:55.42 | nyingen | how do I fix that? |
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| 01:56.04 | boudiccas | darkelfjuggalo; a quote from Lord of the Rings |
| 01:56.09 | darkelfjuggalo | lol |
| 01:56.11 | darkelfjuggalo | ok |
| 01:56.35 | darkelfjuggalo | i was hoping you meant i could chain the bind command to all 3 in a single line |
| 01:56.49 | boudiccas | no idea |
| 01:56.50 | gnarface | nyingen: sounds like a gnome or kde problem. my system doesn't have a spinner cursor |
| 01:57.34 | boudiccas | nyingen; dont they use spinners in coarse fishing? |
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| 01:58.29 | nyingen | Well, I don't know what the technical term for that icon is. It's the white circle with animated dots or pip going around the rim |
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| 01:58.45 | nyingen | a busy cursor |
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| 01:59.08 | boudiccas | ah, right now i know what you're talking about nyingen |
| 01:59.09 | gnarface | nyingen: i was serious about my response. my system has no such thing. its not a standard debian component, so you need to figure out what window manager's cursor theme is borked on you. |
| 01:59.44 | gnarface | nyingen: alternately, consider the possibility its not lying |
| 01:59.48 | nyingen | heh |
| 02:00.02 | boudiccas | gnarface; isnt it the default one in gnome showing that its busy? |
| 02:00.26 | gnarface | boudiccas: if i'd been foolish enough to install gnome anytime in the last 12 years maybe i could tell you |
| 02:00.34 | boudiccas | lol |
| 02:00.36 | nyingen | no, it's definitely erroneous. It appears on startup (of xmonad), and while the cursor turns into a normal one in most apps, on the blank desktop or certain apps like Eclipse it does not |
| 02:00.51 | nyingen | actually it appears on startup of gdm3, now that I think about it |
| 02:00.54 | darkelfjuggalo | is there a command --bing? i typoed to bind sys and didn't get an error message |
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| 02:01.03 | nyingen | so it's not xmonad's fault |
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| 02:01.59 | boudiccas | nyingen; what version of debian are you using please? |
| 02:02.09 | nyingen | seems odd though. This is a pretty new installation -- I installed it a few days ago. I installed latest squeeze and then upgraded to wheezy |
| 02:02.30 | sanjoyd | For two nights in a row, I find that after a while of inactivity my system (wheezy on amd64) stops responding. The only way I am able to fix this is by doing a (proper) shutdown using the power button. |
| 02:02.37 | sanjoyd | Any clues what could be wrong? |
| 02:02.59 | boudiccas | ah wheezy. maybe the good folks on #debian-next over on irc.oftc.net could help? |
| 02:03.16 | nyingen | yeah, I should probably tell them about it |
| 02:03.31 | nyingen | since I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything unusual with the installation |
| 02:03.37 | darkelfjuggalo | ok i have bind dev sys and proc... do i return to 'mount -t proc none /target/proc' |
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| 02:03.53 | nyingen | however, if anyone knows how to fiddle with the X cursor, I'm all ears |
| 02:04.00 | gnarface | sanjoyd: what's wrong is you're using a testing distro. secondarily you're asking about it in the wrong channel. you should probably ask over in #debian-next on oftc.net |
| 02:04.12 | abrotman | he's perfectly fine asking here |
| 02:04.15 | sanjoyd | gnarface: thanks! |
| 02:04.26 | abrotman | wish you guys would stpo doing that |
| 02:04.33 | gnarface | sorry abrotman |
| 02:04.33 | nyingen | is this channel only for talking about squeeze? |
| 02:04.41 | abrotman | no |
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| 02:04.44 | gnarface | sanjoyd: considering its testing, when was the last time you did a full update? |
| 02:04.56 | sanjoyd | Two days back. |
| 02:05.06 | sanjoyd | That is when this problem started. |
| 02:05.13 | abrotman | sanjoyd: so if you `aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade` .. nothing updates? |
| 02:05.20 | abrotman | sanjoyd: and what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 02:05.27 | pyg | exit |
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| 02:05.37 | gnarface | sanjoyd: testing is expected to break periodically.... you should consider another upgrade and if its still not fixed, then 1) check for a bug report and if it doesn't exist 2) create one |
| 02:05.52 | sanjoyd | abrotman: 3.2.0-1-amd64. I'm updating right now, will try a dist-upgrade and see. |
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| 02:05.59 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 02:06.00 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.3.0-rc6-686-pae (3.3~rc6-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.9-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.9-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.2.4-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-41); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 02:06.06 | tdrusk | sanjoyd: I'm guessing you tried ctrl+alt+f1 to try to get to a terminal? |
| 02:06.12 | abrotman | sanjoyd: is linux-image-amd64 installed ? |
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| 02:06.26 | abrotman | sanjoyd: and are you using binary drivers from amd/nviida? |
| 02:06.41 | sanjoyd | abrotman: no and yes. |
| 02:06.54 | gnarface | is there a betting pool on when wheezy will be released? |
| 02:07.07 | sanjoyd | tdrusk: keyboard wasn't working. |
| 02:07.20 | null- | gnarface: december |
| 02:07.39 | gnarface | null-: i was asking for the location of the betting pool, not what you bet on |
| 02:08.14 | gnarface | thinks december is a bit ambitious |
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| 02:11.04 | gnarface | sanjoyd: when you say the keyboard isn't working do you mean like, if you hit numlock or capslock the lights don't even change to denote you've toggled the state? |
| 02:11.16 | sanjoyd | gnarface: yep |
| 02:11.24 | darkelfjuggalo | ok my OS is on sdb would my grub-install command be 'grub-install /dev /target/sdb' [or sdb1]? |
| 02:11.40 | gnarface | sanjoyd: that's an IO lock. if you're using the nvidia binary drivers they are your primary suspect |
| 02:11.50 | abrotman | gnarface: /msg dpkg wheezy pool |
| 02:11.54 | gnarface | thanks abbe |
| 02:11.58 | gnarface | er, i mean abrotman |
| 02:12.00 | gnarface | sigh |
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| 02:12.12 | sanjoyd | gnarface: anyways, I guess I'm best off dist-upgrading and hoping this was fixed recently. |
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| 02:12.42 | sanjoyd | Btw, what is linux-image-amd64? I clearly have a kernel installed, what does this package install? |
| 02:12.50 | gnarface | sanjoyd: parent meta-package |
| 02:13.04 | gnarface | sanjoyd: updating it will automatically put you on whatever the current version is |
| 02:13.11 | sanjoyd | gnarface: okay. |
| 02:13.17 | gnarface | sanjoyd: you didn't dist-upgrade again today? yea do that first |
| 02:13.30 | sanjoyd | Yeah, seems I'm running an outdated kernel. |
| 02:13.43 | sanjoyd | I'll fix that first. |
| 02:14.13 | abrotman | which probably includes various fixes |
| 02:14.46 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_3.2.9-1/changelog |
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| 02:17.29 | darkelfjuggalo | I'm at the grub-install part but i can't get it to accept my location |
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| 02:26.47 | t4nk751 | hello |
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| 02:29.16 | gnarface | hey what do you guys use to benchmark https? ab seems to suck at it |
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| 02:29.56 | t4nk171 | is this the right place to ask something about a linux programme? |
| 02:30.31 | abrotman | t4nk171: are you using Debian ? |
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| 02:30.51 | t4nk171 | yes |
| 02:30.53 | t4nk171 | lenny |
| 02:31.30 | abrotman | so ask |
| 02:31.36 | t4nk171 | ok |
| 02:31.43 | dvs | nope. support is done. ;-) |
| 02:31.46 | t4nk171 | I want to use eclipse |
| 02:31.51 | t4nk171 | Helios |
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| 02:32.40 | gnarface | t4nk171: what's the problem, apt-get can't find it? |
| 02:33.21 | t4nk171 | I download it, i put it on desktop and I found inside the 'exe' programme eclipse |
| 02:33.37 | gnarface | dies a little inside |
| 02:33.54 | t4nk171 | eclipse for c/c++ |
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| 02:34.35 | t4nk171 | i made a project, from these tha eclipse has, a c/c++ project, the helloworld |
| 02:35.15 | t4nk171 | and I want to build it, but when I do this it says |
| 02:35.47 | t4nk171 | **** Build of configuration Debug for project testpro **** (Cannot run program "make": Unknown reason) |
| 02:36.10 | gnarface | t4nk171: you may not have make installed. |
| 02:36.38 | flaggy | jumps in front of a speeding train |
| 02:36.43 | LtL | t4nk171: apt-get install build-essential maybe |
| 02:37.02 | t4nk171 | I think that I have it |
| 02:37.12 | gnarface | t4nk171: check |
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| 02:37.47 | t4nk171 | this? |
| 02:37.51 | t4nk171 | "apt-get install build-essential" |
| 02:38.13 | abrotman | probably should use aptitude in lenny |
| 02:39.02 | t4nk171 | "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.", so I have it |
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| 02:40.15 | abrotman | perhaps it needs to be configured? |
| 02:40.22 | darkelfjuggalo | is it possible to configure a USB mem stick to run an offline installer and if so, what size would you need? |
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| 02:40.57 | t4nk171 | I think that i have to do something with the settings of eclipse, but I dont know what |
| 02:41.16 | dvs | has a 64GB USB drive with the double Blu-ray ISO on it |
| 02:41.22 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: i think technically just the netinstaller should be capable of a base install, but if you have an ssl key that's at least as big as a cd-rom you could just use CD1 and that would have enough to get a working desktop |
| 02:42.02 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: sorry i meant USB key, not ssl key. |
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| 02:42.11 | gnarface | should stop trying to do 2 things at once |
| 02:42.15 | edju | Running testing with KDE 4.6.5. I've somehow lost all applications in the KDE menu widget - the menu settings are correct. Anyone with a hint? |
| 02:42.45 | t4nk171 | "perhaps it needs to be configured" What do you mean? |
| 02:42.53 | LtL | tyche: in the build dir type, ./configure ...after that, 'make' |
| 02:43.07 | darkelfjuggalo | all i have is an 8GB and i just found out i need to use a different arch than what i have |
| 02:43.07 | croner | I have a cron setup for * * * * * /myscript (http://pastebin.com/7t1qEb2G) I did chmod this to +x 755 and the cron is running as root. But, I see it run in my logs it just... doesn't actually run. Did I skip over something? |
| 02:43.08 | abrotman | edju: is menu-xdg installed? have you tried logging out/in ? |
| 02:43.26 | abrotman | croner: is it actually called /myscript ? |
| 02:43.34 | dvs | darkelfjuggalo: the first DVD is fine. |
| 02:43.36 | croner | Nah it's called /scripts/checkInternet |
| 02:43.56 | Whiskey | lol |
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| 02:43.59 | croner | Of course this path is listed in the crontab -e thinger :-) |
| 02:44.02 | Whiskey | is it possible to do like |
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| 02:44.24 | darkelfjuggalo | the first DVD will fit on my USB drive? |
| 02:44.33 | edju | abrotman, xdg 0.5 is installed. I ahve logged out and in. |
| 02:44.38 | abrotman | darkelfjuggalo: how big is your USB drive?> how big is the ISO ? |
| 02:44.41 | croner | I see /USR/SBIN/CRON[2105]: (root) CMD (/scripts/checkInternet) in my logs, but it just doesn't trigger what I have inside the file |
| 02:44.44 | dvs | darkelfjuggalo: yes |
| 02:44.44 | abrotman | edju: just thought i'd ask |
| 02:44.50 | Whiskey | -/home/znc/bin ./znc --version and echo itt? |
| 02:44.50 | croner | When I run it myself with ./scripts/checkInternet it runs just fine though, of course |
| 02:45.06 | abrotman | croner: after the shebang, put something like "touch /tmp/cron_test" so you can see if it' srunning |
| 02:45.12 | darkelfjuggalo | ok can some1 walk me through this, first time making an installer in linux |
| 02:45.27 | abrotman | !tell darkelfjuggalo about usb install |
| 02:45.30 | dvs | darkelfjuggalo: cat debian.iso > /dev/sdb |
| 02:45.30 | abrotman | !tell darkelfjuggalo about ig |
| 02:45.55 | dvs | darkelfjuggalo: that's it (depending what device your USB drive is mapped to) |
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| 02:46.29 | darkelfjuggalo | ok for do i find out the drive? |
| 02:47.02 | abrotman | croner: wait, what's the point of this script? to check if you have connectivitiy? |
| 02:47.04 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: dmesg should say something when you plug it in, but if you only have one other drive on the machine and its sda, then its a safe bet that your USB key is sdb |
| 02:47.25 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: do NOT cat the debian iso to sdb until you've verified that |
| 02:47.48 | darkelfjuggalo | i have no intention of fuckign this computer up |
| 02:48.43 | darkelfjuggalo | [sdg] Attached SCSI removeable disk? |
| 02:48.57 | abrotman | croner: ? |
| 02:49.19 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: here's what i do, and its probably not the best way but it works for me: 1) run dmsg, examine the last 10 lines or so. 2) plug in the usb key 3) run dmsg again and compare the last 10 lines or so to the first run. the output should be pretty self-explanatory. if its telling you sdg, then its sdg |
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| 02:50.26 | dvs | darkelfjuggalo: Me? I'd run "fdisk -l" as root |
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| 02:50.30 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: to clarify, yes, USB keys are treated as "SCSI removeable disks" these days |
| 02:50.54 | gnarface | dvs: won't that fail to show devices that are unpartitioned though? |
| 02:51.12 | dvs | gnarface: I'll show the device |
| 02:51.34 | Vasistha | trying to figure out apt preferences ... so far I have this: http://paste.debian.net/159641/ |
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| 02:51.55 | Vasistha | ...but it's not having the desired effect: it is still suggesting I upgrade audacity |
| 02:52.17 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: note that depending on your system there may be a few seconds delay between when dmesg logs its first line about it and when its actually accessible in /dev |
| 02:52.38 | bantamug | hi - my screen (debian box, connected via HDMI to a Samsung flatscreen) seems to adjust its brightness depending on how much stuff is on the screen - i.e. if I switch panes in this irc / screen session, it gets brighter/dimmer. What's going on?! |
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| 02:53.17 | gnarface | bantamug: hardware feature of your display, most likely. but if you're using nvidia proprietary binary drivers you might want to check the nvidia-settings control tool for fancy stuff |
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| 02:53.46 | gnarface | bantamug: you might want to check the display's manual for stuff like "dynamic iris" or something |
| 02:53.52 | croner | So I have this sitting in my script, which the cron is running but it's not working for me. If I run it myself it's fine, but when the cron hits it I don't get the same outcome. http://pastebin.com/kuDLPapX |
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| 02:53.59 | bantamug | gnarface: hmm. thanks - I'll take a peek. |
| 02:54.22 | abrotman | croner: i asked you to test something |
| 02:54.39 | croner | abrotman, I must scroll up sorry I missed it |
| 02:54.47 | Whiskey | lol that was not easy to figure out how to do |
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| 02:55.01 | darkelfjuggalo | ive unplugged the USB stick and ran dmesg twice and it still loads this http://paste.debian.net/159642/ that is the stats for my USB driver how do i refresh so it will read without the USB? |
| 02:55.04 | croner | abrotman, yes it check for connectivity and runs commands if it is not found. |
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| 02:55.23 | abrotman | croner: that wasn't what i asked you to try |
| 02:55.48 | croner | To put something at the end? See if it hits it? Okay one sec |
| 02:55.53 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: i'm confused, what's the problem? |
| 02:56.20 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: that looks like normal output to me |
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| 02:56.25 | croner | Yes it gets to the end of the script okay. I added a simple touch to the end and the file does get made. |
| 02:56.55 | abrotman | croner: so your if statement or your wget is failing? tried using 'set -x' to get more verbose output ? |
| 02:57.39 | croner | abrotman, where do I apply this set -x? I'm not up on all this stuff :-) |
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| 02:57.56 | darkelfjuggalo | problem http://paste.debian.net/159643/ |
| 02:57.58 | abrotman | croner: line after the shebang |
| 02:58.14 | darkelfjuggalo | that is with the USB mem stick plugged in |
| 02:58.28 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: its not complaining about /dev/sdg, its complaining about debian.iso |
| 02:58.47 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: make sure you're using the right path and file name man |
| 02:58.58 | dvs | oh come on |
| 02:59.11 | darkelfjuggalo | ok |
| 02:59.24 | abrotman | gnarface: you're going to hurt him if you keep pushing that spoon :) |
| 02:59.49 | dvs | heh |
| 03:00.32 | gnarface | just hopes he isn't trying to put an 8GB DVD ISO on a 7.23GB USB key that merely has "8GB" silkscreened on the housing |
| 03:01.14 | unomystEz | well it appears my screen is unstable and keeps dying. Any ideas on replacements? Perhaps Terminal with tabs? |
| 03:01.15 | croner | Snazzy! |
| 03:01.17 | croner | . /USR/SBIN/CRON[2590]: (CRON) error (grandchild #2592 failed with exit status 127) |
| 03:01.35 | darkelfjuggalo | DVD 1 iso says 4.3GB |
| 03:01.49 | abrotman | croner: that's cute ... |
| 03:02.29 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: oh you're fine then |
| 03:02.53 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: if it appears to hang after you press enter, just be patient. this may take a LONG time. usb flash ram isn't known for throughput |
| 03:03.21 | darkelfjuggalo | it also says 2 hours until it is downloaded [i was under the impression it was going to be downloaded from that command |
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| 03:03.38 | croner | Will try putting full paths on it, brb |
| 03:03.43 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: you mean from cat? |
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| 03:03.49 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: live and learn |
| 03:04.40 | darkelfjuggalo | lol i know, I was hopeful more than anything |
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| 03:05.02 | croner | abrotman, do you think the cron is getting held up because of "if [ ! -s /tmp/index.google ];then" ? |
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| 03:05.46 | dvs | darkelfjuggalo: you really need to read up on the basics of Linux |
| 03:06.08 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: there's a package called coreutils that has a bunch of binaries in /bin which you'd do well to familiarize yourself with the basic purpose of, if not use. you'll see them over and over again and people will give you instructions assuming you know the basic context of their use |
| 03:07.01 | darkelfjuggalo | when im familiarizing myself with them i'm going to need a translator for half of it |
| 03:08.00 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: just go head first, get into trouble, get out of trouble: the best way to learn anything |
| 03:08.13 | dvs | disagrees |
| 03:08.17 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: keep backups |
| 03:08.28 | mmnicolas | dvs: with me ? |
| 03:08.33 | dvs | yup |
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| 03:09.52 | darkelfjuggalo | i have a few other things i want to deal with on this particular machine in the meantime of working with that. A. anyone who is familiar with the Tomboy notebook program....is there away to say individual notes or notebooks to the Desktop for quick reference? |
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| 03:10.08 | darkelfjuggalo | save^ |
| 03:10.26 | mmnicolas | dvs: Right, that might not be the "best way" with everybody, but it was with me :) |
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| 03:12.41 | ell | Somebody with the same problem with eclipse says "my make was located in /Developer/usr/bin; I added this to the PATH variable.", what is this PATH variable in eclipse? |
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| 03:14.01 | mmnicolas | ell: I don't use eclipse but my guess is he was talking "the" PATH, not eclipse's PATH |
| 03:14.03 | klys | ell: terminal emulator? |
| 03:14.39 | Vasistha | ell: env PATH=/Developer/usr/bin:$PATH eclipse |
| 03:15.02 | Vasistha | ell: of course I don't know if your make is also located there, where is your make? |
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| 03:15.47 | ell | it's /usr/bin/make |
| 03:16.25 | mmnicolas | It should already be in your PATH then |
| 03:17.05 | mmnicolas | ell: echo $PATH , You'll see what yours include |
| 03:17.54 | ell | this /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games |
| 03:18.23 | ell | how does this help me? |
| 03:18.45 | mmnicolas | ell: Well, It does exclude the possibily that your make isn't in your PATH |
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| 03:18.50 | DummyMode | hi |
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| 03:20.04 | ell | I have only one week linux and I dont know anything about debian and how can I make eclipse run |
| 03:20.12 | mmnicolas | ell: Having something in your $PATH means you don't have to type the full path to execute it, you should be able to simply type "make" and not having a "command not found" |
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| 03:20.31 | Vasistha | ell: how did you install eclipse? |
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| 03:21.20 | ell | I took it from eclipse's site |
| 03:21.29 | ell | I made it unzip |
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| 03:22.04 | ell | and inside the folder there is the programme eclipse |
| 03:22.30 | Vasistha | ell: well there is your problem. You should have just installed it with aptitude, using the debian version of eclipse. |
| 03:22.39 | mmnicolas | Try do undo all you have done, and simply type "aptitude install eclipse" |
| 03:23.39 | ell | I had done this before, how can I unistall the previous eclipse so to do this again as you say? |
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| 03:24.16 | mmnicolas | ell: Did you move stuff out of your home directory ? |
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| 03:25.37 | mmnicolas | If you did not run some install script as root you should be fine with just removing the folder |
| 03:25.52 | Vasistha | ell: what did you do to "install" it? Did you give your password or root password to install anything, or did you just unzip it and run the eclipse program? |
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| 03:26.12 | Vasistha | mmnicolas: I think you've got this :) I'm out! |
| 03:26.40 | mmnicolas | Vasistha: np, have a good one |
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| 03:27.13 | ell | I made both of them |
| 03:27.38 | ell | the first was to install as root etc, it didnt run |
| 03:28.05 | ell | the second was to download from eclipse site and just unzip |
| 03:28.21 | ell | can i do now "aptitude install eclipse"? |
| 03:29.18 | mmnicolas | You can, it might work, but honestly, I would now consider your system as "dirty" |
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| 03:30.20 | ell | they were different eclipse |
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| 03:31.11 | ell | what does aptitude does? is it like apt-get? |
| 03:31.53 | mmnicolas | Yes pretty much, there is so much controversy as to which one is better that you'll probably always have both available |
| 03:34.08 | ell | it says |
| 03:34.20 | ell | The following packages will be REMOVED: libserf-0-0{u} 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 3 not upgraded. |
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| 03:34.37 | ell | Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 90.1kB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] |
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| 03:35.14 | mmnicolas | are you using squeeze or wheezy ? |
| 03:35.32 | ell | lenny |
| 03:35.42 | nsadmin | want to upgrade? |
| 03:35.57 | nsadmin | lenny is EOL |
| 03:36.16 | ell | I have to use lenny |
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| 03:36.25 | nsadmin | ok |
| 03:37.13 | mmnicolas | ell: go edit your sources.list (nano /etc/apt/sources.list) as root |
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| 03:37.49 | ell | and what will I add inside? |
| 03:38.01 | mmnicolas | Have a single line looking like this: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
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| 03:38.41 | mmnicolas | you can keep your current mirror if you wish |
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| 03:38.56 | nsadmin | lenny may or may not still be on the mirrors |
| 03:39.14 | mmnicolas | nsadmin: really ? didn't they just release 5.0.10 ? |
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| 03:39.35 | mmnicolas | ah ok, see what you mean |
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| 03:39.55 | mmnicolas | ell: just remove everything and paste that exact line |
| 03:40.01 | nsadmin | still, you might be able to find an actual package mirror on archive.d.o |
| 03:40.52 | Whiskey | can you do apt-get and it can tell you what version number a software are? |
| 03:41.31 | nsadmin | Whiskey, you can try apt-cache policy <pkg> |
| 03:41.36 | mmnicolas | ell: save & quit then aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 03:42.04 | ell | I have this inside |
| 03:42.06 | ell | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
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| 03:42.56 | Whiskey | nsadmin |
| 03:42.57 | Whiskey | strange |
| 03:43.20 | Whiskey | i got |
| 03:43.20 | Whiskey | http://codepad.org/Wb8wTqNF |
| 03:43.28 | mmnicolas | ell: go on |
| 03:44.07 | ell | go on with what? |
| 03:44.23 | ell | the line you told me was inside |
| 03:44.35 | ell | so why to put it again? |
| 03:44.39 | mmnicolas | ell: aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 03:44.45 | ell | A! |
| 03:44.46 | Whiskey | wheezy (testing) (net): advanced modular IRC bouncer |
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| 03:46.16 | Whiskey | How do i get that package from wheezy |
| 03:46.42 | nsadmin | what are you running |
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| 03:47.30 | ell | I am afraid a little |
| 03:47.43 | ell | what will it do upgrade? :P |
| 03:48.06 | ell | because it asks me to continue or not |
| 03:48.15 | mmnicolas | ell: You really shouldn't this is oldstable, there shouldnt be lots of stuff to upgrade, just making sure you got everything up to date |
| 03:48.50 | mmnicolas | ell: unless you installed from a very old media |
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| 03:50.24 | ell | it says |
| 03:50.26 | ell | WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! |
| 03:50.51 | ell | Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security. You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that this is what you want to do. |
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| 03:51.38 | ell | libsqlite3-0 Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway? To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No" |
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| 03:52.30 | hanasaki | is there a tablet (like the apple/android onse) that will run debian and support all th wireless and network + gnome and kde with touchscreen and the pinch gestures? |
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| 03:53.19 | ell | i know that lenny are old, but i have to run a programme that somebody wrote with lenny. I had ubuntu but I had problems so i installed lenny |
| 03:53.35 | Whiskey | whereis |
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| 03:53.41 | Whiskey | can it show full path to file it find? |
| 03:53.58 | mmnicolas | ell: proceed, you probably just installed from an old media and the certificate changed, it'll most likely get updated through the dist-upgrade |
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| 03:55.20 | MooseExcursion | I have debian 6.0.4 and have been looking at how to do unattended installs. I've found plenty of information on the subject, but it seems like debconf-utils isn't the fixall (any more?). Am I looking in the wrong place? |
| 03:56.16 | ell | it says all the time |
| 03:56.22 | ell | Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway? To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": y Unrecognized input. Enter either "Yes" or "No". Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway? To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": y Unrecognized input. Enter either "Yes" or "No". Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway? To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": y |
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| 03:56.39 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: I've been doing unattended installs a while ago and never heard of that, familiar with preseeding ? |
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| 03:57.22 | mmnicolas | ell: do not paste long stuff here, just keep saying yes, a new keyring package will get installed at some point |
| 03:57.26 | MooseExcursion | mmnicolas, not specifically. I'm a software engineer, so none of the concepts sound foreign, but I just feel like I'm in the wrong hemisphere or something. |
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| 03:58.51 | SilverSwan | Hi |
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| 03:59.06 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: I've been using a preseed file injected in a netinstall iso and it worked pretty well, see: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed |
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| 04:00.08 | WormFood | does anyone know off-hand, if the debian installer supports installing to an iscsi "target"? |
| 04:00.29 | MooseExcursion | I've been trying to get http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs03.html.en (debconf-get-selections) working/installed/etc.... Have you just used a hand-generated or pre-generated preseed file? |
| 04:01.03 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: I've modified the default http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/example-preseed.txt |
| 04:01.10 | SilverSwan | Guys, wanted to know whats the best nvidia graphics card that is fully supported on linux? |
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| 04:01.35 | SilverSwan | $linux='Debian Wheeze' |
| 04:01.48 | LeLutin | I have a crypted partition that contains lvm volumes. when I let the boot process ask me for the password, I can see the LVM volumes with lvs, but when I open the disk with cryptsetup, I don't .. what step am I missing? |
| 04:02.25 | MooseExcursion | mmnicolas, I guess that's a valid answer. I was just hoping to get this utility to work. Have you had success modifying various parameters? It seems like it can be quite a pain to test that sort of thing, since it can involve a whole wipe every time. But I've seen stories of 40x machines being installed unattended in 5 minutes. *shrug* |
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| 04:03.51 | ell | can't we do the update from synaptic? because I have done a lot of yes but it still asks :P |
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| 04:04.49 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: They often suggest to do a normal install then get the "answers" from somewhere in /var/log/installer/cdebconf |
| 04:06.01 | mmnicolas | ell: hit ctrl-c and rerun the command with -y, aptitude -y dist-upgrade |
| 04:07.07 | nsadmin | ctrl-c? on a package install? |
| 04:07.16 | nsadmin | that would be a no-no :) |
| 04:07.21 | ell | this? aptitude update; aptitude -y dist-upgrade ?? |
| 04:07.22 | fulgore | heh, that's scary |
| 04:07.48 | nsadmin | fulgore, kilgore was here... |
| 04:07.55 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat exactly, but If I remember correctly, it has been a lot of trial & error for me |
| 04:07.59 | mmnicolas | ell: just the second part |
| 04:08.24 | mmnicolas | ell: brb, gotta remove theses onions before cooking that pizza |
| 04:08.31 | fulgore | nsadmin: eh? |
| 04:08.37 | nsadmin | nm :) |
| 04:08.39 | MooseExcursion | mmnicolas, I do see that file. so you're not sure about debconf-get-selections? |
| 04:09.06 | MooseExcursion | mmnicolas, the webpage says "However, a file generated in this manner will have some items that should not be preseeded, and the example file is a better starting place for most users." so maybe I should heed their advice |
| 04:11.06 | ell | it still asks again and again. I cant continue this, and I don't think that this is the problem. You can run eclipse with lenny, but I dont know how |
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| 04:11.44 | nsadmin | eclipse needs java |
| 04:12.11 | ell | how can I understand if I have what it wants? |
| 04:12.58 | ell | nsadmin? |
| 04:13.14 | nsadmin | understand which? |
| 04:13.33 | nsadmin | where did you install java to? |
| 04:13.34 | ell | if I have java installed |
| 04:14.36 | mosno | can someone please remind me why bash-completion isn't working inside of GNU screen? |
| 04:14.46 | nsadmin | if you type: echo ". $(which java)" |
| 04:14.49 | nsadmin | it says? |
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| 04:16.03 | ell | yes . /usr/bin/java |
| 04:16.10 | ell | so I have java |
| 04:16.48 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: Well, it might be a nice tool, but I wasn't aware of it's existence at that time |
| 04:17.33 | ell | how can I unistall eclipse? |
| 04:18.01 | nsadmin | java -version 2>&1 |head -1 |
| 04:18.21 | mmnicolas | ell: try just aptitude install debian-keyring first, then rerun aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 04:18.57 | ell | what does it do? |
| 04:18.59 | ell | aptitude install debian-keyring first |
| 04:19.09 | ell | *without first :P |
| 04:19.13 | mmnicolas | get the certificates it complains about |
| 04:19.32 | nsadmin | might be debian-archive-keyring |
| 04:20.20 | mmnicolas | oh yea, you're right |
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| 04:25.11 | guest25325 | how necessary is portmap for the health of a debian system? |
| 04:25.30 | nsadmin | does it produce second-hand smoke |
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| 04:25.32 | nsadmin | "? |
| 04:26.31 | nsadmin | portmap is for sun rpc... nfs, nis, etc |
| 04:26.32 | mmnicolas | guest25325: Always thought I only needed that for NFS |
| 04:26.43 | Coded1 | Nvidia GT430 v GT520 ... which one offers best bang for the buck? |
| 04:26.46 | ell | Sorry but I don't want all these, i will look for an other programme. kdevelop is good? |
| 04:27.08 | nsadmin | ell, tias |
| 04:27.36 | mmnicolas | ell: what all that ? dependencies ? |
| 04:28.43 | guest25325 | I upgraded my kernel from 2.6 to 3.2 with the squeeze backports, but that broke my nfs-common, so after that I got nfs-common to upgrade too, but that required that I removed portmap and install rpcbind |
| 04:29.18 | nsadmin | ell, you don't have a good track record with answering questions meant to help you here,,, I'll wait until you have some answers made with good response time |
| 04:29.53 | ell | i told you that i know tha i have old linux and the others, but i need them for my work |
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| 04:30.01 | nsadmin | (having said that, tias is probably the best thing to do) |
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| 04:30.27 | nsadmin | !lenny |
| 04:30.27 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 04:31.33 | ell | ok, I will see what i will do |
| 04:32.00 | nsadmin | if not... open eyes... |
| 04:32.04 | nyingen | !potato |
| 04:32.04 | dpkg | Potato is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, released August 14th, 2000. It is no longer supported. Ask me about <potato->woody> for upgrade information. See also <potato sources.list>. Get old potato ISOs here: http://mirror.klabs.be/debian-cd/potato/2.2_rev7/iso/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPotato |
| 04:32.16 | nyingen | neat |
| 04:32.42 | nsadmin | old potatos could have germs! |
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| 04:33.46 | ell | I know what is lenny and I didn't choose it. I told you why I installed lenny |
| 04:34.02 | nsadmin | ell, so, a perfectly valid response when you ask questions, is "lenny is no longer supported"... having said that, there is nothing stopping you from using it |
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| 04:34.23 | nyingen | slink is the first debian version I remember using. I used slackware prior to that |
| 04:34.27 | mmnicolas | ell: that's fine, but at least you should have an up to date lenny |
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| 04:35.32 | nsadmin | ell, if this is for work, you might let your supervisor that lenny EOLed feb 6 |
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| 04:35.56 | nsadmin | which as mentioned means no security support |
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| 04:37.46 | nsadmin | also if this is for work, you might request of your boss that he hire paid support people |
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| 04:39.33 | nutron | My xorg is hogging the cpu like a mofo, all applications, scrolling, moving windows... pegs at 100% cpu. I assume, that the problem could lie with nvidia, but I'm unsure how to go about resolving the problem (diagnosing?). xorg version 1.11.4, nvidia version 295.20 |
| 04:40.02 | nsadmin | nutron, good cooling setup? |
| 04:40.29 | mmnicolas | nutron: The problem would seem that you are *not* using the GPU |
| 04:40.56 | mmnicolas | nutron: can I get your Xorg.0.log in a pastebin somewhere |
| 04:41.01 | nutron | nsadmin, admittedly no, but it worked fine prior. Both cards are passively cooled and hover around 50C |
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| 04:41.11 | nutron | mmnicolas: indeed, sec. |
| 04:41.29 | nsadmin | nutron, not just the cards, everything in the box |
| 04:41.32 | nutron | (well it may take a while, this thing is slow like molasses) |
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| 04:42.13 | nsadmin | it could happen, that some improvement on the cooling could speed you up within seconds |
| 04:42.20 | ell | I have to go, thanks for the help |
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| 04:44.24 | nutron | mmnicolas: http://paste.debian.net/159646/ |
| 04:44.59 | nutron | the only thing that stands out in that file is the composite extension being enabled, I don't remember doing that |
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| 04:45.06 | nutron | goes to check xorg.conf |
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| 04:46.11 | darkelfjuggalo | if i hit enter in the terminal after cat [debian.iso] > /dev/[device drive] will this interupt the cat? |
| 04:46.13 | nutron | Hmm, and I don't have a compositing wm, also no calls to AIGLX in xorg or anything similar |
| 04:46.56 | somiaj | darkelfjuggalo: no |
| 04:47.16 | somiaj | darkelfjuggalo: it won't process the enter until after that process ends so it will be like hitting enter on the command prompt |
| 04:47.38 | darkelfjuggalo | ok so about how long might i expect this to take... was 2 hours to download the ISO |
| 04:47.50 | nutron | nsadmin: Aye but this setup has worked as is for some time (many months) until an upgrade a few weeks back. |
| 04:47.55 | somiaj | probaly faster than that...depends on your usb write speed darkelfjuggalo |
| 04:48.17 | darkelfjuggalo | i just know it is an 8GB USB2.0 |
| 04:48.29 | mmnicolas | nutron: that might not be the issue but, there is really no reason for xinerama to be enabled |
| 04:49.30 | nutron | mmnicolas: indeed there is unfortunately... I run 3 screens, and having it disabled does something icky (I don't remember exactly what), mainly because nvidia doesn't support xrandr (If I remember correctly) |
| 04:49.30 | nsadmin | nutron, as I said "it could be ..." |
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| 04:50.02 | nyingen | nutron: have you searched the web about this problem? I had something like this going on a couple years back, and there were many people with similar problems and suggested fixes |
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| 04:50.56 | nutron | nsadmin: indeed, thought about it, but that's why I know what the temps are, I've looked at it and it doesn't seem to be out of spec for the small amount of cooling blowing on the cards |
| 04:51.04 | somiaj | darkelfjuggalo: it will probably take less than 2 hours. |
| 04:51.09 | somiaj | darkelfjuggalo: what size image? |
| 04:51.16 | trysten | i'm using a commandline filebrowser, and it has an 'archive mode' |
| 04:51.25 | trysten | it says archives are handled by rx_* scripts |
| 04:51.29 | trysten | does anyone know what that is? |
| 04:51.38 | darkelfjuggalo | 4.3GB image size |
| 04:51.59 | nutron | nyingen: aye, there are many different problems reported, many back from 2006, hence why I ask 2 weeks later. Admittedly I haven't been hardcore trying solutions as I haven't had the time. Though.. here I am, yappin' about it |
| 04:52.31 | nyingen | I see. Well, good luck |
| 04:52.48 | darkelfjuggalo | the Grub kept Messing up even when I was manualing installing so I'm using the USB to make an offline INstaller of DVD 1 |
| 04:52.57 | nutron | nyingen: =) thought about hitting it with a hammer! |
| 04:53.05 | nyingen | heh |
| 04:54.24 | darkelfjuggalo | i figure the DVD would have the GRUB properly on it rather than my network breakng a File from the mirror |
| 04:54.43 | mmnicolas | nutron: I'd suggest disabling compositing then, just so it stops complaining |
| 04:55.22 | nutron | mmnicolas: hmm, remember how? I don't see anything related in my xorg.conf. Though I'll look again. |
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| 04:57.02 | mmnicolas | nutron: Option "Composite" "Disable" in the Extensions section |
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| 04:58.28 | nutron | mmnicolas: ok brb |
| 04:58.57 | boudiccas | nutron; why not document all these gems you're picking up in your blog for future reference |
| 04:58.59 | boudiccas | ? |
| 04:59.27 | nutron | boudiccas: what? |
| 04:59.47 | boudiccas | nutron; why not document all these gems you're picking up in your blog for future reference? |
| 05:00.00 | nutron | Sorry what gems? |
| 05:00.09 | boudiccas | all this information |
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| 05:01.00 | trysten | that's not how it works, boudiccas |
| 05:01.18 | nutron | How to disable the composite extension? ... That's an rtfm, and I simply asked out of pure lazyness and being tired of watching my screens refresh like a 286 windows 2.0 session. |
| 05:01.32 | boudiccas | trysten; why not? it helps you to learn and remember |
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| 05:01.40 | nutron | anyway, I need to restart my x, brb |
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| 05:01.58 | nyingen | irssi/screen fail |
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| 05:02.29 | trysten | boudiccas: yea it would help nutron, but not anyone else. not that much anyways. |
| 05:02.44 | boudiccas | you never know |
| 05:02.44 | trysten | if you want to help other people, you're better off editing the debian wiki, IMHO |
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| 05:06.06 | mmnicolas | I do maintain a personal wiki full of crap, mostly because I think it would interest anyone, and I'm not the most proficient english writer :( |
| 05:06.14 | mmnicolas | *wouldn't |
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| 05:06.33 | MooseExcursion | mmnicolas, how do you use the preseed file? Do you do a netboot? Put it on an iso? what? |
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| 05:08.17 | boudiccas | i maintain a blog called 'a taste of linux' in which i put down all the factoids and things that i've learnt to to help me for future reference |
| 05:08.26 | nutron | well turning the composite extension off, didn't do much except.. explicitly turn it off. No relief though. I'm guessing it's the nvidia driver somehow... |
| 05:08.45 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: yes, at first I used to crack open a netinstall iso put it there then rebuild the iso, after that I played around a lot with debian-live, but if you don't need a live environment at all, I would stick with the netinstall if I were you |
| 05:09.11 | nutron | boudiccas: I agree with you, and I do keep a blog, but tidbits that I run into are at times a simple lapse in judgement and/or simply skimming docs too fast =) |
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| 05:09.25 | DragonSlay | 10 |
| 05:09.35 | MooseExcursion | mmnicolas, I'm more keen on keeping the iso and the preseed separate. Any advice on this use case? |
| 05:09.36 | nutron | So far, about this problem, haven't really learnt much of anything new |
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| 05:09.51 | kleanchap | I want to install keepass on Debian. In the aptitude search, I am only finding keepassx. How do you install this package? The URL is at http://packages.debian.org/sid/keepass2 |
| 05:10.02 | darkelfjuggalo | do i have to do something special to eject a USB device without damaging it? |
| 05:10.28 | nutron | wow I haven't screen redraws this slow since first owning an oak 087 512k card |
| 05:10.46 | nutron | darkelfjuggalo: umount device |
| 05:10.50 | boudiccas | kleanchap; what version of debian are you using? |
| 05:11.14 | nutron | I wish I could take a video of this, I'm sure some would be amused =) |
| 05:11.33 | kleanchap | boudiccas, I believe it is 6.x |
| 05:11.43 | darkelfjuggalo | nvm i found my gnome right-click menu has a 'safely remove device' option |
| 05:11.55 | boudiccas | kleanchap; there is no 6.x, currently its 6.0.4 |
| 05:12.45 | boudiccas | kleanchap; please do .. cat /etc/debian_version .......... and post the result in channel here |
| 05:12.52 | kleanchap | boudiccas, I think it is 6.0.4 (probably). It was installed about 8 months ago. |
| 05:13.35 | kleanchap | boudiccas, It is 6.04 |
| 05:13.44 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: Yes I think you can even point to an url |
| 05:13.53 | boudiccas | kleanchap; it is not advisable to mix packages from other versions of debian. from what you say you're running squeeze and you want to install from sid, it wont work |
| 05:14.09 | MooseExcursion | mmnicolas, doesn't that require that you use pxeboot or something to get a dhcp-assigned IP address? |
| 05:14.10 | boudiccas | ,versions keepass2 |
| 05:14.12 | judd | Package: keepass2 on i386 -- sid: 2.18+dfsg-2; wheezy: 2.18+dfsg-2 |
| 05:14.27 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: don't think so, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 |
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| 05:15.00 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: But since your ISO is unchanged, you will have to specify the preseed file manually at each boot, which isn't really unattended then.. |
| 05:15.03 | boudiccas | kleanchap; another password manager for squeeze is 'revelation' which works very well |
| 05:15.05 | kleanchap | boudiccas, is squeeze the production version and sid the development version of Debian? |
| 05:15.31 | kleanchap | boudiccas, will it read the keepass files? |
| 05:15.41 | boudiccas | kleanchap; squeeze is stable, sid is unstable ............ and never the twain shall meet :) |
| 05:15.58 | boudiccas | kleanchap; doubtful |
| 05:16.04 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: But yes, PXE boot would be the way to go if you really need to be "fully" unattended and keep the iso unchanged |
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| 05:16.53 | MooseExcursion | mmnicolas, this is true... I guess I'd need to either automate the modification/creation of an iso or to do pxe like you say... I'm actually an entrepreneur with a horrible addiction to system administration. I hope it pays off. |
| 05:17.23 | MooseExcursion | mmnicolas, thanks for the advice. I must now sleep so I can go to my day job in the morning. |
| 05:18.51 | darkelfjuggalo | any idea how long the OS install should take to begin... i plugged the USB in, i clicked the install and it has not moved in 5 minutes, I can't move up or down the installer boot menu |
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| 05:19.13 | mmnicolas | MooseExcursion: gn |
| 05:19.56 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: Is it by any chance an amd64 iso on an x86 machine ? |
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| 05:20.51 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: do you have an activity led on that usb thing ? Is it doing something ? |
| 05:21.21 | darkelfjuggalo | the red light? it's blinking and yes it is and AMD64 ISO |
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| 05:23.49 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: how about the second part of my question, is your computer 64 bit ? |
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| 05:25.33 | darkelfjuggalo | yes, everywhere i looked online said the Archetecture was a AMD64 with 64 bit |
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| 05:27.14 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: so it's been more than 10 minutes now ? |
| 05:27.43 | darkelfjuggalo | yes |
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| 05:33.11 | cornerse | that's he hypothesis? what about my theory. |
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| 05:33.42 | mmnicolas | cornerse: ? |
| 05:36.15 | darkelfjuggalo | mmnicolas, any suggestions, or is this expected and working properly? |
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| 05:37.29 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: It is expected to be a little slower than booting from a cd, but not that much |
| 05:37.45 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: is it blinking regularly or randomly ? |
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| 05:41.10 | darkelfjuggalo | regularly |
| 05:41.35 | darkelfjuggalo | on for 2 secs off 2 secs in perfect rythmn |
| 05:41.37 | kleanchap | I like the evolution mail client. |
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| 05:41.57 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: yea, that's bad, try again with another usb drive |
| 05:42.16 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: are you doing using a squeeze or wheezy iso ? |
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| 05:43.52 | mmnicolas | kleanchap: Good thing for the evolution team, I'm sure you're one of the rare who still appreciate a non-web mail client |
| 05:44.24 | darkelfjuggalo | squeeze |
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| 05:45.36 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: I'd try again with another usb drive, and just to make sure, you did "dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdX" not /dev/sdXX right ? |
| 05:46.34 | darkelfjuggalo | i was told cat [.iso file path] > /dev/[drive] |
| 05:47.36 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: I guess it should also do it fine, but the recommended way is with dd |
| 05:48.25 | darkelfjuggalo | ok umm i have no other USB drive |
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| 05:48.46 | kleanchap | How can I regenerate the menus and menu items in Gnome? |
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| 05:49.06 | darkelfjuggalo | might a i386 iso work also... it is my understanding that the two are essentially the same thing... |
| 05:49.22 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: which iso did you download exactly ? |
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| 05:51.02 | darkelfjuggalo | AMD64 |
| 05:52.06 | mmnicolas | -_- |
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| 05:53.25 | mmnicolas | That is not an "exact" answer. |
| 05:53.26 | darkelfjuggalo | what? am i misunderstanding |
| 05:53.33 | mmnicolas | the filename |
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| 05:53.48 | darkelfjuggalo | AMD64 DVD 1 |
| 05:53.54 | darkelfjuggalo | let me look |
| 05:54.09 | darkelfjuggalo | debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
| 05:54.18 | mmnicolas | and how big is your usb stick ? |
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| 05:54.31 | mmnicolas | I mean, the capacity |
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| 05:57.47 | darkelfjuggalo | stick is 8gb, the file size is 4.3 |
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| 05:59.28 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: before trying again, type md5sum debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
| 06:00.09 | darkelfjuggalo | in the terminal? |
| 06:00.09 | mmnicolas | If it isnt exactly this: e6cc597c0547aa132414f23284af652b you will have to download it again |
| 06:00.13 | mmnicolas | yes |
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| 06:03.08 | darkelfjuggalo | e6cc597c0547aa132414f23284af652b |
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| 06:03.38 | darkelfjuggalo | it matches |
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| 06:04.20 | mmnicolas | It does, this mean your file isn't corrupted, try again with dd |
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| 06:05.18 | mmnicolas | You might want to have a look at dmesg (by typing dmesg) from time to time to make sure there isn't any IO errors while writing on your usb stick |
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| 06:05.28 | mmnicolas | on another terminal of course |
| 06:05.59 | darkelfjuggalo | can you give me a paste of the exact code input for dd i already have cd into the directory where the iso is stored |
| 06:07.11 | darkelfjuggalo | i can break it down from there |
| 06:07.34 | mmnicolas | dd if=debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/sdX |
| 06:08.12 | mmnicolas | just make sure you get the good device name (sdX), type cat /proc/partitions to identify which one is 8GB |
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| 06:09.24 | mmnicolas | I would also make sure it isn't mounted (don't really know if it changes anything) by typing "mount" and "umount /dev/sdX" if any |
| 06:11.35 | darkelfjuggalo | car /proc out put http://paste.debian.net/159651/ |
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| 06:13.34 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: so you have a 100GB, a 40GB and finally a 8GB drive (sdg) |
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| 06:13.44 | darkelfjuggalo | dmesg is telling me sdg |
| 06:13.51 | darkelfjuggalo | correct |
| 06:13.51 | mmnicolas | so, dd if=debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/sdg |
| 06:13.55 | mmnicolas | yep |
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| 06:15.40 | Radex | how to prevent daemons from starting at installation time? |
| 06:15.58 | mmnicolas | Radex: don't install them ? |
| 06:17.12 | darkelfjuggalo | do i have to 'su' with every reboot? [i did it through root terminal before, i opened basic terminal for the info gathering then wanted to sudo rather than reopen the the root terminal, but sudo said i wasn't in the sudoer file] |
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| 06:17.38 | Radex | need first configure it correctly, nginx and apache start defaulty on :80 port and installation over puppet it's main problem |
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| 06:18.43 | mmnicolas | Radex: I see, how about having their config files at the right place before installing them ? |
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| 06:20.37 | LordShiva | I got a error while upgrading to sid |
| 06:20.52 | mmnicolas | LordShiva: that is to be expected |
| 06:21.02 | LordShiva | and now I have most icons unavailable |
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| 06:21.21 | LordShiva | Anyone understand this there is nothing on google about it |
| 06:21.23 | LordShiva | (gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:11722): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory |
| 06:21.27 | Radex | mmnicolas: yes it's solution what i'm using but thiking if there is some better way |
| 06:21.34 | LordShiva | Is taht disk error ? |
| 06:22.02 | LordShiva | Or just because is interrupted while installing ? |
| 06:22.09 | LordShiva | I got a system halt |
| 06:22.23 | mmnicolas | LordShiva: might be both |
| 06:23.26 | mmnicolas | Radex: http://ask.debian.net/questions/how-to-prevent-daemons-from-starting-at-installation-time |
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| 06:25.36 | Radex | mmnicolas: i know that post, but want to ask there to be sure if it's really true ;) |
| 06:25.49 | mmnicolas | Radex: from what I can see, the best answer looks like mine |
| 06:26.08 | LordShiva | This look crazy if it is disk error can I get it back on anyway without reinstalling ? |
| 06:26.23 | LordShiva | I didnt backed up /usr partition |
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| 06:27.44 | Radex | mmnicolas: anyway will be good to add some param to disable autmatically start, i really like that option normally but in that case it's problematic |
| 06:28.08 | Radex | mmnicolas: btw thanks for your help |
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| 06:29.32 | mmnicolas | Radex: I kinda hoped for an aptitude switch that would do that, that would be nice |
| 06:29.33 | LordShiva | I got a halt while packages are still unpacked that is not fixed by dpkg --configure -a what command I should run dpkg --configure -a just do setting here |
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| 06:30.02 | LordShiva | or maybe to run dist-upgrade again ? |
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| 06:30.36 | Radex | mmnicolas: yeah, exaclty |
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| 06:33.24 | mmnicolas | LordShiva: maybe |
| 06:33.46 | mmnicolas | LordShiva: you know you're looking for trouble by using sid right ? |
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| 06:34.10 | LordShiva | yeap |
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| 06:45.31 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: ? |
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| 06:45.50 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: done with the dd ? |
| 06:45.56 | streuner | Why is plugin-containe such a crap? |
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| 06:47.06 | mmnicolas | streuner: plugin container as in nspluginwrapper ? |
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| 06:47.32 | darkelfjuggalo | still running |
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| 06:47.59 | streuner | mmnicolas: nah, it should in theory start in iceweasel apps when needed, usually flash |
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| 06:48.33 | darkelfjuggalo | i wish it gave a progress bar...even if it's just the - \ l / spinner and =bar |
| 06:48.44 | streuner | mmnicolas: usually my CPU is at 100 percent and i have to kill the process by hand... |
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| 06:52.42 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: yea, gddrescue does, it is meant for recovery from dying drive but it would also do the trick |
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| 06:53.40 | mmnicolas | streuner: probably better than having to kill iceweasel |
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| 06:54.19 | darkelfjuggalo | ok, im not soo worried about it, it just be nice to have an idea time wise |
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| 06:55.26 | streuner | mmnicolas: well, seems to be a new feature of firecrap ;-) |
| 06:56.19 | streuner | mmnicolas: its a bug |
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| 06:57.17 | mmnicolas | streuner: 10.0.2 ? |
| 06:57.39 | streuner | mmnicolas: yes |
| 06:58.32 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: you can use iotop to get an idea of the transfer rate, from there you can get an idea |
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| 07:01.28 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: once the dd ends, do not remove the drive immediatly, type "sync" and wait a moment |
| 07:01.59 | darkelfjuggalo | on sync done |
| 07:02.22 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: I personnaly always type eject /dev/sdg on top of that |
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| 07:02.41 | darkelfjuggalo | thank you was about to ask since the icon isn't available |
| 07:03.13 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: wait until the led stops flashing, then pull it out |
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| 07:05.16 | mmnicolas | now tell me it works before I go to sleep, otherwise nightmares of IO errors awaits me |
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| 07:08.31 | mmnicolas | or maybe DVD iso's aren't iso/usb hybrids... |
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| 07:15.23 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: so ? |
| 07:16.09 | darkelfjuggalo | well it's froze again with a slow fade on the light |
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| 07:24.16 | mmnicolas | darkelfjuggalo: same led behavior as earlier ? |
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| 07:26.09 | darkelfjuggalo | yes |
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| 07:27.27 | eugenmayer | hello, iam trying to compile / install swftools myself, due i patched the code. I want then ship it to all my debian machines. apt-repo is already running and all this, compiling (deps) is no issue, but how to properly create a deb package out of the source cod? |
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| 07:28.12 | tralala | eugenmayer: try checkinstall |
| 07:28.46 | tralala | or if the programme is already packaged, just compile from the debian sources |
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| 07:29.09 | eugenmayer | its packaged |
| 07:29.22 | eugenmayer | at least for ubuntu |
| 07:29.22 | eugenmayer | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/swftools/0.9.0-0ubuntu2 |
| 07:29.29 | eugenmayer | but iam not sure how to refactor it |
| 07:29.39 | tralala | then use dpkg-buildpackage |
| 07:29.45 | LordShiva | fixed it was a upgrade interrupt no fs errors :) |
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| 07:31.34 | eugenmayer | tralala: http://www.google.com/search?q=dpkg-buildpackage&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 |
| 07:32.00 | eugenmayer | tralala: sorry, should i use http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/dpkg-buildpackage ..or are there debian related docs |
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| 07:32.46 | tralala | eugenmayer: read the man page |
| 07:33.54 | eugenmayer | tralala: ok. Still not sure whether i should download a .deb package and "reuse" it somehow |
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| 07:35.41 | tralala | eugenmayer: no, you download the source package, unpack it, patch it and then build it with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 07:35.58 | tralala | using apt-get source |
| 07:36.15 | eugenmayer | tralala: hmm, the source package is 0.9.0, while i need 0.9.1. But i get your point. Thank you a lot! |
| 07:36.20 | eugenmayer | tralala++ |
| 07:37.03 | tralala | eugenmayer, you're welcome :-) |
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| 07:41.17 | Mlk | hello |
| 07:41.48 | eugenmayer | tralala: sorry, iam still not really getting it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swftools/0.9.0-0ubuntu2 .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/partner/+files/swftools_0.9.0.orig.tar.gz does not include any debian related files like DEBIAN/control |
| 07:42.40 | Mlk | can anyone show me how to add ipv6 alias manually with ip command? i looked at its man but im still lost |
| 07:43.21 | tralala | eugenmayer: you're supposed to use apt-get source |
| 07:43.35 | eugenmayer | debian sources do not have swftools :/ |
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| 07:45.51 | tralala | then get the .diff.gz and .dsc files from ubuntu + upstream sources and try to find you way from there |
| 07:46.32 | tralala | or just use checkinstall |
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| 07:53.40 | eugenmayer | tralala: wow, checkinstall is cool. |
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| 07:57.48 | gulzar | installed Warzone2100 but it is too slow. It works smoothly on Mint11 and on Arch. So what should I do ? Which other packages to install? |
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| 08:07.10 | eugenmayer | tralala: anyway to cross-compile fpr amd64? |
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| 08:12.11 | whitequark | what Debian/kFreeBSD is for? |
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| 08:12.19 | whitequark | apart from demonstration of Debian's portability |
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| 08:24.46 | eugenmayer | whitequark: well its a BSD kernel, so actually its secure |
| 08:25.39 | eugenmayer | whitequark: e.g. if you compare jails in BSD and similar stuff in Linux, you actually stop having toys but rather real tools ( all implementtions in Linux are not secure ) |
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| 08:26.38 | eugenmayer | whitequark: BSDs kernel is most probably one of the best out there compared to the security and cleanness aspects. The downside is, missing drivers, missing hardware compatibility |
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| 08:27.22 | eugenmayer | so you wont start using a *BSD on you laptop or similar. People do this, but they tend to have quiet some spare time :) So *BSD is rather a server-OS, but a real solid one |
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| 08:38.29 | eugenmayer | i just created a package with checkinstall and it worked fine, local installation worked out. After i know switched to arch=all i get this issue when a repo-client fetches the package list |
| 08:38.29 | eugenmayer | http://pastebin.de/24214 |
| 08:38.33 | eugenmayer | any ideas? |
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| 08:45.03 | LordShiva | How do you monitor cpu temperature on debian |
| 08:45.18 | LordShiva | I dont have sensors on sensor applet |
| 08:45.40 | LordShiva | Something additional for acpi is needed or ? |
| 08:46.14 | tralala | LordShiva: maybe your sensors are not supported. Have you got lm-sensors installed? |
| 08:46.41 | LordShiva | lets check |
| 08:46.47 | whitequark | eugenmayer: hm, jails, interesting |
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| 08:47.05 | whitequark | can you point me to any design flaws in linux jail implementations? |
| 08:47.17 | whitequark | *point me to an article about |
| 08:48.02 | LordShiva | yes but its not upgraded I'll upgrade it |
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| 08:51.25 | eugenmayer | whitequark: google |
| 08:51.29 | oznt | hi everyone |
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| 08:51.59 | LordShiva | I run AMD APU |
| 08:52.06 | oznt | is there a known problem with bugs in debian at the moment? I have been trying to submit a bug yesterday night, and today, but i never get an answer |
| 08:52.07 | LordShiva | is it supported ? |
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| 08:52.45 | whitequark | eugenmayer: ... gives a lot of vulnerabilites due to errors, but I don't see anything about design flaws |
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| 08:54.15 | tralala | LordShiva: it's the sensors' chipset that matters, not the cpu |
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| 08:55.30 | tralala | lm-sensors has chipset detection programme, but I don't remember how it's called or used. |
| 08:55.35 | tralala | check out the docs |
| 08:55.45 | trysten | can anyone sum up the difference between openSSL and GPG (GNU privacy guard)? |
| 08:56.19 | DelTree | ssl and gpg just almost have nothing in common... |
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| 08:57.34 | lhz | exim forwards mail to smarthost (To: me@empty) , I've done the normal dpgk-reconfigure exim4-config picking option 2 (smarthost). Shouldn't I expect local delivery? |
| 08:58.39 | trysten | DelTree: but openssl manages public/private keypairs, encrypts files, can create RSA signatures... |
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| 09:01.28 | eugenmayer | it seems like aptitude does not like empty Conflicts / Replaces entries created by checkinstall. is there something liek "none" i could use? |
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| 09:03.25 | tralala | eugenmayer: I doubt that the problem is in the empty entries. What's the error message that you get? |
| 09:03.25 | LordShiva | ok I got now a temp k10 |
| 09:03.28 | LordShiva | that is cpu |
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| 09:03.43 | eugenmayer | tralala: well you doub but its a fact :) |
| 09:03.50 | eugenmayer | its even documented as a bug. The fix is --replaces none --conflicts none |
| 09:04.02 | trysten | how do i reload the /etc/groups file? |
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| 09:05.01 | eugenmayer | tralala: jap, works. Confirmed |
| 09:05.06 | tralala | eugenmayer: a bug where? in aptitude? |
| 09:05.25 | eugenmayer | tralala: no, checkinstall. Its convention / rfc that those are not allowed to be empty |
| 09:05.55 | tralala | hmm, I recently used checkinstall without these and had no problems |
| 09:06.06 | tralala | however I did use apt-get |
| 09:06.26 | tralala | trysten: reload? What for? |
| 09:06.49 | eugenmayer | tralala: well, not sure for apt-get update, but aptitude update fails |
| 09:06.50 | trysten | tralala: i added myself to a group, but the `groups` command does not show that i am in it |
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| 09:07.13 | llutz | trysten: logout, login again |
| 09:07.15 | oznt | trying again: does some one here know if there's a problme with submitting bug reports? |
| 09:07.20 | tralala | trysten: you need to login again |
| 09:07.28 | trysten | gah |
| 09:07.43 | tralala | or you could use newgrp |
| 09:07.46 | Almtesh | Hi! |
| 09:07.49 | trysten | thanks guys |
| 09:08.00 | Almtesh | Is anyone knows where is nfsbooted? |
| 09:08.06 | Almtesh | I can't find it in squeeze. |
| 09:08.12 | trysten | tralala: that did it, thank you! |
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| 09:08.48 | tralala | trysten: this is temporary though. Eventually you'll need a fresh login |
| 09:09.26 | Almtesh | I nedd it to use debian through pxe. |
| 09:10.15 | Almtesh | This is a package that manage correctly, with scripts, to have a root filesystem mounted in nfs. |
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| 09:10.29 | Almtesh | Pearhaps a new package replaces it. |
| 09:10.36 | trysten | tralala: i see. well it was for shell purposes anyways. actually i was writing a script to put in /usr/local/bin/ is there another/better place that i can put user scripts? |
| 09:10.53 | Almtesh | It don't know because I lost it after lenny (oldstable). |
| 09:11.08 | tralala | trysten: for single user scripts I prefer ~/bin |
| 09:11.21 | Almtesh | It might be replaced by another package, or renamed, or integrated in another package. |
| 09:11.28 | Almtesh | But I can't find it. |
| 09:12.44 | trysten | tralala: OMG is that a thing?!? |
| 09:13.01 | Almtesh | Pearhaps I could install the lenny version. |
| 09:13.33 | tralala | trysten: say what?! |
| 09:14.24 | Almtesh | OK, I'll try to do it myself, as nobody answers. |
| 09:14.58 | tralala | Almtesh: see qa.packages.debian.org |
| 09:15.05 | trysten | facepalms |
| 09:15.30 | trysten | tralala: how do you add that to your path then? |
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| 09:16.41 | tralala | trysten: in your .bashrc or in /etc/bashrc if you have many users who want their own scripts |
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| 09:17.51 | tralala | or the appropriate file anyway - I never remembered all the rules of all the shell config files |
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| 09:20.19 | Braniac | hid3, i am trying to compile a new kernel "3.2.11" but i am also need all the iptables support, does anyone here know what are all the modules that i have to compile in order to have full iptables support??? |
| 09:22.07 | jargon- | i don't even know where to start... |
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| 09:22.28 | tralala | Braniac: see the debian kernel config in /boot/config-<version> |
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| 09:26.36 | Braniac | tralala: thanks for your answer, but i am not looking if my current kernel already support iptables, i am looking what modules to compile in the kernel to have support in it, sorry if that was heard rude but my english is not perfect |
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| 09:26.45 | Braniac | any ideas??? |
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| 09:28.08 | tralala | Braniac: you'll have to figure out which modules are needed by using you existing config |
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| 09:28.45 | tralala | i.e. I don't have the answer, just the way to get to the answer |
| 09:29.07 | Braniac | tralala: ok, thanks anyway |
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| 09:32.29 | kinlo | I have a problem with the kernel. If I boot the stock squeeze kernel, I can crash the thing consistently, using a third party driver compiled for that kernel. If I do exactly the same but by booting the redhat 6 kernel ontop of debian, the kernel works just right. Anyone who can help me getting the right patch from redhat in my debian kernel? |
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| 09:45.44 | devZer0_ | hello, does anybody know how to install squeeze with grub1 instead of grub2? the system doesn`t come up after installation because of a grub2 problem |
| 09:46.25 | tralala | kinlo: your best bet is to use the redhat kernel. Both redhat and debian patch their kernels with a different set of patches, so you can't just apply an easy fix. |
| 09:46.45 | dod | vddfsgs |
| 09:46.50 | dod | hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 09:46.58 | kinlo | tralala: would you recommend using redhat's kernel on top of debian? |
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| 09:48.55 | tralala | kinlo: I would recommend not using the binary driver that crashes the kernel |
| 09:48.57 | zeleboba1 | Can u Help me ,i have a problem, i Install Apache to Unix-Debian server, but my php files in the /www/ directory is not worked |
| 09:49.12 | kinlo | tralala: it's not a binary driver, it's opensource |
| 09:49.39 | tralala | how did you compile it? |
| 09:49.48 | kinlo | it's a third party driver, and since they are the drivers for the root disk I kinda need them |
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| 09:50.17 | kinlo | uhmz, let me see, it was my collegue that compiled them |
| 09:50.26 | mosno | zeleboba1, 1) define "not worked", 2) have you installed php? |
| 09:50.30 | kinlo | we're talking about the emulex hba drivers btw |
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| 09:51.11 | zeleboba1 | mosno: I try to connect such ip:/index.php this is program script who to use php and mysql, but it did not worked , paje is unavaiable |
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| 09:51.35 | zeleboba1 | I have installed php by standart install - command , more actions i don't do |
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| 09:52.36 | mosno | zeleboba1, /www is not the standard docroot |
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| 09:53.08 | mosno | zeleboba1, check your apache logs and config |
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| 09:53.59 | zeleboba1 | mosno which command i can check it? |
| 09:54.11 | tralala | kinlo: the normal way of using third party modules is module-assistant. If that fails, then there must be some conflicting patch in debian and your best bet will be to get help from the third party in locating and fixing the problem. |
| 09:54.39 | n1x | can i just symlink a dir in my ftp server (vsftpd) to make it available to public? |
| 09:55.03 | kinlo | tralala: the compilation is no problem, and the driver works in most cases, just adding new luns fails... it's clearly a bug in the kernel |
| 09:55.21 | kinlo | tralala: the problem is that those companies do not officially support debian so they will just say "use redhat" |
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| 09:55.37 | kinlo | tralala: usually we solve this by reproducing on redhat and then telling them to fix it |
| 09:55.47 | kinlo | tralala: but in this case, it works fine on redhat :( |
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| 09:56.15 | kinlo | I'd really like to continue using debian instead of redhat... |
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| 10:02.09 | mosno | zeleboba1, try this one: sensible-browser http://httpd.apache.org/docs |
| 10:02.48 | mosno | zeleboba1, and check out the docs in /usr/share/doc/apache2 |
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| 10:05.31 | killown | why the newest cusps version on debian 5 was able to find the printer lexmark x656de and the debian 6 with a newest cups one couln't ? |
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| 10:06.31 | happyhessian | why is there no noip2 for standard architectures (like amd64) in sid? http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=noip2 |
| 10:06.41 | zeleboba1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.51 | happyhessian | what's the recommended way to install a package like that? |
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| 10:15.41 | happyhessian | whatever, installed the lennny package. |
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| 10:34.57 | tralala | kinlo: it seems that you're out of clean solutions with debian. You might use a redhat kernel but there's no guarantee that you won't run into other issues. |
| 10:36.03 | tralala | And if security has to be considered you're probably better off just switching to redhat. |
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| 10:37.37 | maxorator | what's the easiest way to install the latest version of just one package, keeping the other ones updated at just the stable version? |
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| 10:38.27 | nsadmin | the way that works is to compile it |
| 10:38.27 | maxorator | lenny's latest PHP has a bug that results in segfaults, I need to update to a newer one not offered by the stable sources |
| 10:38.55 | nsadmin | so, don't run lenny :) (there's not support for lenny anymore) |
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| 10:39.11 | maxorator | uh, how do I update it then? |
| 10:39.32 | maxorator | from lenny to whatever is supported now |
| 10:39.56 | tralala | maxorator: backports |
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| 10:40.11 | nsadmin | lenny is the immediately previous version of debian... (called oldstable right now) |
| 10:40.34 | tralala | oh, if you're on lenny just upgrade |
| 10:40.44 | nsadmin | so you'd follow the lenny -> squeeze instructions |
| 10:40.46 | nsadmin | but... |
| 10:41.34 | nsadmin | just hold off one sec... is this thing running lenny, a remote server? or a local machine? |
| 10:41.41 | maxorator | VPS |
| 10:41.49 | nsadmin | remote? |
| 10:41.51 | maxorator | yes |
| 10:42.09 | nsadmin | ok, and it's operating now? is it a production box? |
| 10:42.17 | maxorator | operating |
| 10:42.27 | nsadmin | and not production? |
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| 10:42.34 | maxorator | what do you mean? |
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| 10:43.13 | nsadmin | is it a server which serves multiple (say) business customers, such that taking the server down could harm your income? |
| 10:43.55 | nsadmin | if something like that is true, you need to proceed carefully, starting with a full backup |
| 10:43.56 | maxorator | it's not business related, but hosts some sites that I would prefer are not down for long |
| 10:44.10 | nsadmin | are they all your sites? |
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| 10:44.53 | maxorator | technically yes |
| 10:44.59 | SpComb | stable -> stable dist-upgrades aren't that bad |
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| 10:45.09 | nsadmin | ok, no one pays you to keep them up? |
| 10:45.14 | maxorator | nope |
| 10:45.51 | nsadmin | ok, and, I also hear that the folks who run the sites might be like, your friends, and you'd like to keep them up for them |
| 10:46.03 | nsadmin | that sound right to you |
| 10:46.05 | nsadmin | ? |
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| 10:47.07 | maxorator | basically yes |
| 10:47.08 | nsadmin | if that's true... it would be polite of you to schedule down time in advance to fix this |
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| 10:47.41 | maxorator | I'm not even sure if my configurations can survive a reboot, since I've never rebooted my VPS |
| 10:47.42 | guardian | hi |
| 10:47.48 | nsadmin | and let everyone know |
| 10:47.51 | nsadmin | ugh :) |
| 10:48.04 | guardian | what's the difference between "stty -ixon -ixoff" and "stty start undef stop undef" ? |
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| 10:52.07 | maxorator | basically I have a mail server (postfix plus something), apache, mysql and svn running on my server, I think these can always easily be started manually once it's rebooted though |
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| 10:56.28 | jelly | maxorator: debian packaging for services almost always makes them start at boot |
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| 10:56.52 | maxorator | okay, that's good |
| 10:57.09 | maxorator | as long as ssh fires up I'm okay though |
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| 10:57.55 | tralala | maxorator: what kind of virtualisation does it use? |
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| 10:58.23 | maxorator | xen |
| 10:58.41 | tralala | and what's in dom0? |
| 10:58.46 | tralala | debian? |
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| 10:59.22 | maxorator | I don't know |
| 10:59.33 | maxorator | the service provider does not specify this |
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| 11:00.22 | maxorator | another problem is that the VPS panel does not have any start/shutdown/restart commands and some lenny to squeeze tutorials say I have to do shutdown instead of restart |
| 11:00.23 | tralala | maxorator: do they say if squeeze is supported in a domU? |
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| 11:02.37 | maxorator | no, only info they offer is that debian is the default OS, no other or more specific information is available |
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| 11:09.09 | tralala | maxorator: I've had an issue with domU squeeze under dom0 lenny |
| 11:09.44 | tralala | it couldn't parse grub2's screen and so it didn't boot |
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| 11:10.31 | tralala | so I had to tweek the conf files in dom0 to make it boot |
| 11:11.33 | tralala | maxorator: you could try a full backup, then a base install/updrage of squeeze, just to test if squeeze will boot |
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| 11:13.59 | maxorator | the problem is that the VPS panel offers no explicit backup/restore or even start/shutdown features, therefore the only way to do something like this would be to contact them |
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| 11:18.35 | tralala | you know, that's not such a bad idea - why not contact them and ask them directly is squeeze works in domU? |
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| 11:23.39 | maxorator | okay, I'll do that |
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| 11:28.30 | optraz | !wine |
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| 11:28.30 | dpkg | Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . The beta Wine packages from lamaresh.net are not supported in #debian. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ http://www.winehq.org/ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See also <newer wine>. |
| 11:28.48 | optraz | !newer wine |
| 11:28.50 | dpkg | Debian has both wine and wine-unstable packages that contain various releases of <Wine>. They have not been recently updated as it was not possible to build packages for amd64 with the tools in Debian. Ask me about <cxoffice>, <siyh>, <wine-unstable>. |
| 11:29.06 | optraz | !wine-unstable |
| 11:29.06 | dpkg | Unofficial but more up-to-date builds of wine-unstable for sid at http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
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| 11:32.07 | optraz | why is wine package is not available in wheezy? |
| 11:33.56 | poncha | i was searching for an apt distro with a newer (1.2.0 or higher) version of redmine packaged for squeeze, found hit on the web saying that there is version 1.3.2 (latest stable) in backports.debian.org ... added that repo to apt and updated the list - and there is nothing about redmine in the listings my apt fetched for this repo... how is that possible? |
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| 11:34.35 | eoke | optraz: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=68770 |
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| 11:35.43 | poncha | apt still sees 1.0.2 as the latest available version of redmine (and hence saying i've got the newest version installed), and looking though files in /var/lib/apt/lists for the backports repo i also cant find anything manually |
| 11:36.20 | poncha | yet http://www.debian-database.org/?s=list&r=squeeze_backports says the redmine package should definitely be there |
| 11:36.48 | klys | what is your line from /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:37.00 | streuner | judd, versions redmine |
| 11:37.06 | judd | Package: redmine on i386 -- lenny-backports: 1.0.1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.0.1-2; squeeze-security: 1.0.1-2; squeeze-backports: 1.1.2-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.3.1+dfsg1-1; sid: 1.3.2+dfsg1-1 |
| 11:37.22 | klys | streuner: you might remember me |
| 11:37.38 | poncha | klync: deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free |
| 11:38.17 | poncha | err, i have 1.0.1 right... same as listed in squeeze updates |
| 11:38.37 | zeleboba1 | Hello, i have problem can u help me? |
| 11:38.51 | poncha | but i dont even see the 1.1.2-2 which judd listed |
| 11:39.06 | zeleboba1 | I installed apache,php,mysql, but localhost/phpmyadmin - said The webpage cannot be found ???!! |
| 11:39.27 | poncha | zeleboba1: phpmyadmin is in neither of the packages you listed. it's a separate application |
| 11:39.31 | poncha | apt-get install phpmyadmin |
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| 11:39.55 | poncha | but beware, this is a huge security risk. please LIMIT access to this to only trusted ips |
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| 11:41.33 | zeleboba1 | I already established it through this team! but it isn't started through http://localhost/phpmyadmin |
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| 11:41.48 | poncha | streuner: so actually if i want version 1.3.2 i would have to mix in packages from wheezee nowadays? :( |
| 11:41.58 | poncha | **wheezy |
| 11:42.10 | streuner | poncha: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 11:43.18 | koisoke | hm. What is the most elegant way to purge all packages that are currently removed? |
| 11:44.12 | klys | you mean all available packages not installed? |
| 11:44.34 | klys | dpkg --purge |
| 11:44.35 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, klys |
| 11:44.49 | poncha | dpkg -L shows which ones are not installed... you can grep that list and dpkg --purge on each... say, with xargs ;) |
| 11:44.49 | dpkg | ii shows which ones are not installed... you can grep that list and dpkg --purge on each... say, with xargs ;) 1.9-15 poncha's private stamp collection |
| 11:44.56 | poncha | ouch |
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| 11:45.40 | poncha | -l i meant (not caps) |
| 11:45.50 | koisoke | klys: I mean packages that were formerly installed and are now removed with configuration files remaining. Is there some way to get all list all packages with state 'rc', short of using grep and cut? |
| 11:46.57 | maxou56800 | Hello! :) |
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| 11:47.38 | tralala | koisoke: aptitude search ~c |
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| 11:48.39 | zeleboba1 | hi |
| 11:48.46 | zeleboba1 | how can i join to php? |
| 11:48.51 | zeleboba1 | i have disconnect |
| 11:48.58 | zeleboba1 | #php unable to join channel (invite only) |
| 11:48.59 | zeleboba1 | - |
| 11:49.42 | ksk | im able to get there. maybe you need an freenode account to get there |
| 11:49.47 | ksk | ./msg nickserv help |
| 11:49.48 | ksk | i guess |
| 11:49.50 | poncha | zeleboba1: it's actually ##php |
| 11:49.54 | ksk | but thats kida offtopic |
| 11:51.35 | koisoke | tralala: aptitude search -F%p search ~c did what I want. thanks. |
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| 11:54.26 | tralala | koisoke, you're welcome :-) |
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| 12:03.47 | neorubenx | Hi, in crontable to say, from 14 to 00 (midnight), this is correct 14-00 or I need to do 14-23 and then another with 23-00 ? |
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| 12:06.00 | poncha | necronian: you can add one line with 0,14-23 |
| 12:06.36 | neorubenx | a thanks |
| 12:07.14 | poncha | neorubenx: but... that means which *hours* would be matched... if you want it to run every minute between 14:00 and 00:00 and stop at exactly 00:00 - then this will have to be done differently |
| 12:07.44 | poncha | so if you write 0,14-23 * * * * --- this means it will get executed from 0:00 till 00:59 as well |
| 12:08.08 | poncha | actually it is * 0,14-23 * * * |
| 12:08.15 | neorubenx | I just want only, from 14-23 and 23-00 |
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| 12:08.40 | neorubenx | poncha: ok, thanks again. |
| 12:08.42 | poncha | neorubenx: those are hours... how frequent do you want it to execute? |
| 12:08.42 | jargon- | i'm trying to sort out my broadcom wifi timeout/disconnect issues in kernel3.2 using http://wiki.debian.org/wl#Squeeze and it fails at the m-a with this in /var/cache/modass/broadcom-sta-source.buildlog* http://paste.debian.net/159682/ |
| 12:08.49 | jargon- | help? ^ |
| 12:08.59 | neorubenx | poncha: eery 10 mintus, lile */10 |
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| 12:09.07 | neorubenx | minuts,like. |
| 12:09.43 | poncha | neoice: and 00:00 would be the last time? in that case make a separate line for 0 0 * * * and */10 14-23 * * * one |
| 12:10.03 | neorubenx | ok, that just what I want, thanks again poncha :) |
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| 12:15.33 | babilen | jargon-: #657049 and #659509 -- You could try backporting a newer version from sid or (better IMHO) go for the DKMS package right away |
| 12:16.47 | babilen | jargon-: See <ssb> and <bdo> for a short description on how to do that. (/msg dpkg ssb) |
| 12:16.59 | babilen | ,checkbackport broadcom-sta-dkms |
| 12:17.00 | judd | Backporting package broadcom-sta-dkms in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
| 12:17.50 | jargon- | babilen: ok will do |
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| 12:18.40 | redhead88 | is there A recommended method for creating wireless profiles? |
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| 12:19.33 | superlinux-hp | hi. I have been looking online for this country telephone code number "+905" but i could not know which country it's. can someone tell me? |
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| 12:21.04 | superlinux-hp | Musaab, you an arab? |
| 12:21.20 | Musaab | turk |
| 12:21.36 | jelly | superlinux-hp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes |
| 12:21.36 | exi_ | moin |
| 12:21.42 | optraz | moinmoin |
| 12:21.53 | Musaab | superlinux-hp, you need an arab? |
| 12:22.01 | superlinux-hp | no |
| 12:22.17 | superlinux-hp | i your name is an arabic name |
| 12:22.23 | Musaab | yes it is |
| 12:23.00 | superlinux-hp | this is our arab channels ##arabic and #linuxac |
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| 12:23.11 | superlinux-hp | i though i'd invite you |
| 12:23.32 | Musaab | ahhh |
| 12:23.36 | Musaab | :) |
| 12:23.40 | Musaab | superlinux-hp, thanks :) |
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| 12:24.39 | exi_ | Ich hab da ma ne frage und zwar habe ich zu hause mir nen linux server auf gesezt mit der aktuellen debian distribution dann noch start ssh proftp usw nun habe ich mich mit dem thema sicherheit auseinander gesetzt, nun würde ich gern überprüfen ob der server auch sicher hätte da jemand villeicht einen ansatz für mich ? |
| 12:25.09 | Whiskey | How do i get |
| 12:25.30 | abrotman | exi_: english here |
| 12:25.35 | babilen | exi_: Versuchs in #debian.de oder auf Englisch hier |
| 12:25.44 | exi_ | ok thx |
| 12:25.50 | Whiskey | How do i get "/whatever/path/it/is" just be "/whatever/path/it" |
| 12:26.07 | abrotman | Whiskey: go to #bash .. stop asking scripting questions here |
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| 12:26.27 | Whiskey | them won´t help me :D |
| 12:26.30 | abrotman | it's been going on for days |
| 12:26.38 | abrotman | not our problem, go to #bash |
| 12:26.40 | jargon- | babilen: where do i find the dkms? |
| 12:26.55 | jargon- | babilen: or rather, *what* is the dkms pkg? |
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| 12:27.20 | abrotman | jargon-: "/msg dpkg dkms" if you want to know what it is |
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| 12:27.42 | Eninem | dummersack |
| 12:28.13 | jargon- | abrotman: thank u |
| 12:28.24 | abrotman | !tell jargon- about u |
| 12:31.09 | jargon- | abrotman: sorry. :P |
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| 12:31.35 | Eninem | !tell jargon- about sorry |
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| 12:31.59 | jargon- | Eninem: won't happen again. ever. |
| 12:32.02 | Eninem | ;) |
| 12:32.03 | jargon- | o_0 |
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| 12:37.59 | jargon- | abrotman: so, it's aptitude install dkms? and then? |
| 12:38.12 | abrotman | what did the bot say? |
| 12:39.09 | jargon- | well,it said what dkms is,but not how to use it :-/ |
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| 12:40.18 | jelly | Whiskey: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/100#Removing_part_of_a_string |
| 12:40.31 | Whiskey | yeh |
| 12:40.33 | Whiskey | i find that :d |
| 12:40.41 | jelly | you're welcome |
| 12:40.45 | jargon- | abrotman: or is it, backport broadcom-sta-dkms? |
| 12:40.50 | Whiskey | Now i can´t get it in work in next step :D |
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| 12:41.00 | abrotman | Whiskey: #bash, last warning |
| 12:41.20 | Whiskey | I just answerd :D |
| 12:41.27 | abrotman | jargon-: i haven't had the misfortune to use dkms |
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| 12:43.30 | spm_Draget | Did I miss something or does iptables come without an initscript? I need to manually load/store the rules? |
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| 12:43.59 | abrotman | spm_Draget: correct, read /usr/share/doc/iptables/* |
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| 12:44.48 | optraz | !newer wine |
| 12:44.49 | dpkg | Debian has both wine and wine-unstable packages that contain various releases of <Wine>. They have not been recently updated as it was not possible to build packages for amd64 with the tools in Debian. Ask me about <cxoffice>, <siyh>, <wine-unstable>. |
| 12:44.55 | optraz | !wine-unstable |
| 12:44.55 | dpkg | Unofficial but more up-to-date builds of wine-unstable for sid at http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
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| 12:45.10 | abrotman | optraz: you can msg the bot .. |
| 12:45.41 | optraz | okay thqanks abrotman |
| 12:45.50 | optraz | one question though, where can i get libwine-gecko in sid? |
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| 12:45.51 | spm_Draget | Is there some package that gives me an easy initscript to enable/disable/(load) iptable (rules) ? |
| 12:45.53 | optraz | im using wheezy |
| 12:46.40 | abrotman | spm_Draget: did you read the docs yet? |
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| 12:47.28 | spm_Draget | Yep. A link to http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/ and some hints on missing kernel support etc. in the Readme |
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| 12:49.23 | spm_Draget | Could you try to be a bit more specific what you are trying to tell me? |
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| 12:49.52 | abrotman | spm_Draget: gah .. the maintainer removed his rant .. the init scipt has been removed .. use iptables-restore/-save to do that when you bring up the box .. |
| 12:50.03 | abrotman | spm_Draget: in general, put iptables-restore in your pre-up for your interface |
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| 12:52.26 | spm_Draget | I have a rule-file that I wrote ages ago. For testing purpose, I'd like to disable iptables for a moment (restore empty/accept chain). I probally only need 10-20 minutes to figure out the syntax and clear the chains, test and restor again. But with the danger of locking me out of my server on some mistake. That is when I started thinking 'an initscript would be nice at this point' |
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| 12:54.11 | Iridos | I'm sometimes using chemdraw/wine, that I bought ages ago... there was a bug in wine from... dunno 2001 to 2009 or so and all atom-names (O,C,F) would become black boxes... but - that had been fixed at some time ( \o/ ) |
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| 12:54.40 | Iridos | but now there's a regression with wine-unstable 1.3.28-0.5, which I seem to run right now |
| 12:54.54 | Iridos | judd, versions wine-unstable |
| 12:54.55 | judd | Package: wine-unstable on i386 -- sid: 1.1.36-1 |
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| 12:55.07 | Iridos | ha.. must be a backport I did |
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| 12:56.53 | Iridos | but actually I'm quite sick of it... should I compile a package where it works, statically linked... perhaps put in /usr/local? |
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| 13:00.16 | tekzilla | will a kernel module built with 3.2.0-2 headers not work with a 3.2.0-1 kernel ? |
| 13:01.03 | abrotman | probably not ... different ABI |
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| 13:02.06 | Iridos | ah, squeezes version still works |
| 13:02.14 | indigo | if i've made my own build of a source package, how can i verify that the currently installed package is my build, and not the one from the standard repo? |
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| 13:02.34 | jelly | tekzilla: that's what the API change is for, to denote SOME modules will fail |
| 13:02.41 | jelly | ABI. dammit. |
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| 13:12.27 | daniel-s_ | what's the command that brings up a "run" dialogue? |
| 13:12.50 | gauteh | daniel-s_: on gnome i think its alt+f2 |
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| 13:14.20 | daniel-s_ | gauteh: yep, that's it, thanks. :) |
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| 13:15.39 | tekzilla | jelly: ok thanks, i thought it might work because of the same "major version" |
| 13:15.50 | albech | im having a very high wa:95+ when checking top.. how can i tell what is causing this? |
| 13:16.37 | jelly | tekzilla: that's completely unpredictable when talking about the kernel |
| 13:17.33 | tekzilla | ok its kindof what i expected.. problem is i cant seem to find the 3.2.0-1 headers anymore, and dont want to reboot.. |
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| 13:17.59 | medicineman | herrow |
| 13:18.12 | medicineman | any thinkpad t420 users out there> |
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| 13:19.42 | tekzilla | sorry nevermind, found them in the snapshot archive |
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| 13:21.30 | daemonkeeper | medicineman: You should ask your real question. |
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| 13:21.57 | albech | it seems to be some I/O issue, but how can I tell if its a network or disk issue? |
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| 13:23.23 | medicineman | having a couple issues... 1 is wireless not working, and then resolution to 1366x768 |
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| 13:23.42 | medicineman | i've read through forums like crazy, and still cannot seem to find the right answer :/ |
| 13:23.43 | jargon- | where do i report wiki bugs? |
| 13:23.44 | wart___ | hi folks; is htere a channel discussion for arm - i'm looking to get debian booted on a transformer prime |
| 13:23.51 | wart___ | i already have the chroot but i need to configure the kernel |
| 13:23.53 | jargon- | wiki errata* |
| 13:23.56 | wart___ | looking for tips |
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| 13:33.53 | DammitJim | how do I clean up my apt archives? |
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| 13:34.01 | DammitJim | it is currently using about 3GB of disk space |
| 13:34.05 | tralala | apt-get clean |
| 13:34.14 | DammitJim | what are those archives for? |
| 13:34.47 | tralala | for retrieving packages for installation |
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| 13:35.46 | DammitJim | but I can get those at any time if I have a connection to the internet, right? |
| 13:36.20 | DammitJim | thank you, tralala |
| 13:36.21 | patrik83 | DammitJim: Of course you can. |
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| 13:38.13 | albech | anyone know how to troubleshoot an issue where i have an extremely high iowait? |
| 13:38.48 | albech | how can i tell if it is disk or nic io |
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| 13:41.44 | tralala | albech: iotop, and... well there's something for the network too, but I can't quite recall the name |
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| 13:41.50 | tralala | nettop maybe |
| 13:41.58 | tralala | or iftop |
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| 13:46.34 | Night_Elf | Hi all. I have enabled the xdmcp logins from remotely by means of Enable=true at the [xdmcp] section of /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf file. I can connect via remmina with the xdmcp plugin. But somehow some of the keys in the keyboard don't work correctly. For example, UpArrow tries to call gnome-screenshot. And sometimes it seems like the mouse gets weird, as if the leftbutton is being held. |
| 13:46.44 | Sevet | pzn: tc can do that |
| 13:46.50 | Night_Elf | What can be the place where to see and fix this ? |
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| 13:47.16 | Sevet | pzn: read the 1st answer on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/614795/simulate-delayed-and-dropped-packets-on-linux |
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| 13:47.33 | superuser_ir | hi |
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| 13:47.58 | superuser_ir | how to bind php with apache2 in debian>? |
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| 13:48.53 | spiekey | Hello! |
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| 13:49.33 | spiekey | i upgraded a few debian lenny to squeeze now and i keep running into the problem that it switches the network card interfaces |
| 13:49.51 | spiekey | eth1 becomes eth2, eth2 becomes eth3, and so on |
| 13:49.54 | Night_Elf | superuser_ir: what do you mean ? |
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| 13:49.57 | spiekey | any ideas on that? |
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| 13:50.38 | ksk | spiekey: dunno why it changes, but you can "hardcode" which card is which interface in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 13:50.51 | ksk | (if you use udev, of course) |
| 13:51.24 | spiekey | does lenny 5 not use udev by default? |
| 13:51.35 | superuser_ir | superuser_ir:config apache2 with phpfbm? |
| 13:51.39 | spiekey | i mean, is this a changing feature from lenny to squeeze? |
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| 13:53.09 | superuser_ir | Night_Elf:config apache2 with phpfbm? |
| 13:54.01 | tralala | spiekey: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#device-reorder |
| 13:54.24 | Night_Elf | superuser_ir: phpfbm ? Is that a misstype of php-fpm which I just found to be a FastCGI Process Manager for PHP ? |
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| 13:56.35 | superuser_ir | Night_Elf: yes |
| 13:57.00 | spiekey | tralala, okay, thanks. i will have a look at it when i run into a upgrade situation again :) |
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| 13:58.47 | Night_Elf | superuser_ir: I can't see a debian package for that all right. I haven't used it, but I'd check and see what the documentantion says, starting here: http://php-fpm.org/wiki/Documentation |
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| 14:00.02 | superuser_ir | Night_Elf: :) |
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| 14:03.41 | indigo | is there some way I can know if a package i have installed came from the squeeze repositories, or is a custom build i made from a source package? |
| 14:04.11 | tralala | indigo: apt-cache policy package |
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| 14:04.48 | nsadmin | if it isn't, the policy police will be at your door momentarily... |
| 14:05.41 | ketsa | Hi all, what is the recommended pdf viewer in debian ? |
| 14:06.00 | tralala | ketsa: the one you like best |
| 14:06.17 | nsadmin | take a look at packages.debian.org for all your debian package searching and browsing needs |
| 14:06.30 | tralala | debian comes with a number of readers without really recommending any particular one |
| 14:06.30 | nsadmin | I know I have okular |
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| 14:06.51 | indigo | tralala: so, to make sure i'm reading this correctly, if i get a line with "*** [VERSION]" above /var/lib/dpkg/status, it's something not from a repository that's presently installed? |
| 14:07.10 | ketsa | well evince is not opening that pdf... so i am looking for sthg else. will try okular thanks |
| 14:07.27 | tralala | indigo: why don't you paste your output somewhere? |
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| 14:07.57 | indigo | tralala: an excellent idea. http://pastebin.com/Hj6bbhcJ |
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| 14:08.23 | Maleko | when you add a route ip with ip command, how do we make it apply only for particular ip range only? |
| 14:08.31 | flaggy | ketsa: I like xpdf, it opens everything |
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| 14:08.53 | tralala | indigo: as you can see here, the installed version matches the one in the archives, so the chances are it was installed from there |
| 14:09.17 | indigo | tralala: well, i don't know if the version really tells me anything, because the one i built has the same version, because i built it from the source package in the archives. |
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| 14:10.42 | tralala | indigo: then you'll have to compare check the timestamps of your files against the standard package |
| 14:10.56 | tralala | s/check// |
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| 14:11.05 | indigo | good idea - i'll try that |
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| 14:12.25 | tralala | and in the future if you rebuild the same version you might want to mark it somehow so that you can see it directly from the policy |
| 14:13.09 | inigo | Maleko, if the ip range is in a interface (and no more ips than such range in such interface), you can route by interface, else maybe you can use the "src" option (depending on scenario), else you can use an additional routing table |
| 14:13.11 | indigo | tralala: yes, in retrospect that seems like a good idea :) Unfortunately none of the "this is how to build a source package" tutorials I've found mention that |
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| 14:14.47 | tralala | indigo: I keep all of my custom builds in a local repo, so that I can at least tell that there's more than one source for the same version |
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| 14:15.34 | tralala | but I've never really built anything with the same version as the archives, so I never wondered about the source |
| 14:15.46 | indigo | tralala: do you have a link on how to set that up? When I looked in to it, there was a huge array of options, which all really seemed overly complex for my needs |
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| 14:17.10 | indigo | so far, when i've built source packages it's been either backporting newer versions, or applying bugfix patches |
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| 14:18.17 | nsadmin | you might want to make yourself two local repos, one for bug patches (to heal the bugs of course) and the other for backports you make |
| 14:18.25 | tralala | in any case a local repo has many uses, especially if it is on a NAS |
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| 14:19.22 | tralala | I don't see how two local repos is better than one |
| 14:19.45 | tralala | unless you plan to have multiple versions of the same package |
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| 14:22.21 | indigo | what tools do you reccomend for such a local repo? I'm looking at http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository, and the list is huge. |
| 14:22.54 | tralala | I only use dpkg-scanpackages |
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| 14:24.35 | Maleko | inigo: to be a bit more clear, i have public ip and internal lan ip (assign to eth0 and eth0 respectively). what i want to do is adding a specific gateway ip for that internal lan ip |
| 14:24.48 | Maleko | and eth1* |
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| 14:27.19 | indigo | Maleko: if you wanted to send everything for 192.168.0.0/24 to eth1, then "route add -net 192.168.0.0/24 eth1" |
| 14:27.20 | inigo | ip route add dev eth1 via "$gateway" #? |
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| 14:28.06 | tralala | Maleko: ip r add 10.50.0.0/16 via $IP |
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| 14:28.22 | inigo | maybe you're using /etc/network/interfaces, so use a "gateway" definition just in the public iface, and use a post-up in the internal |
| 14:28.35 | inigo | else ifupdown may play with your routes |
| 14:29.07 | Eninem | whats going on |
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| 14:34.31 | onosendai | D4rKr0W: succhiami il cazzo |
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| 14:35.48 | jelly | onosendai: dude, keep the swearing in private, the rest of us doesn't need to know |
| 14:36.12 | colo-work | jelly, but that's the perfect opportunity to bursh up one's Italian! |
| 14:36.31 | Mmike | Cara mia! |
| 14:36.34 | Mmike | Buon giorno! |
| 14:36.40 | Mmike | Com e'stai? |
| 14:36.41 | Mmike | :) |
| 14:36.44 | Mmike | Was this any good? |
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| 14:36.50 | jelly | colo-work: I go to #debian-it if I want some of that jazz! |
| 14:36.51 | Iridos | it is... funnily enough, 100% of my #debian-learned italian is cussing |
| 14:37.02 | colo-work | hehe |
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| 14:37.27 | colo-work | Iridos, it's the most basic language skill one needs to survive in Italy anyway |
| 14:37.29 | D4rKr0W | 10+ Mmike :D |
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| 14:37.50 | Iridos | doesn't make you overly popular, though |
| 14:37.51 | D4rKr0W | colo-work: swearing is nothing without gestures |
| 14:38.14 | D4rKr0W | jelly: it's ok, onosendai is just a kid |
| 14:38.32 | Iridos | all right... time to move on |
| 14:39.37 | Mmike | I know some of those too, but that's be inapropriate here :0 |
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| 14:51.39 | DotHack | I have a stupdi problem: im trying to set a password in the command ¨net idmap secret alloc <password>¨ but the password starts with -- and net see this as an uknown argumetn... how do i do this.. |
| 14:53.07 | jelly | DotHack: perhaps try asking in a samba channel. If it were a GNU tool, you'd be able to "net idmap secret alloc -- yourpassword" |
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| 14:53.27 | wuffi600 | hi |
| 14:53.46 | jelly | DotHack: the separate "--" tells GNU tools NOT to interpret any further arguments as options |
| 14:54.18 | jelly | so if you have a file named --foo, you can ls -l -- --foo |
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| 14:54.45 | DotHack | jelly: thnx!!! this works!! have been searching for this but couldnt find it anywhere |
| 14:55.12 | jelly | it's a common syntax with Linux tools, I guess |
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| 14:59.19 | Maleko | tralala: im getting "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument" |
| 14:59.24 | Maleko | $ ip -4 route add 172.16.234.116/16 via 172.16.0.254 dev eth1 |
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| 15:00.13 | tralala | drop the dev eth1 |
| 15:00.38 | tralala | which is eth1's subnet? |
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| 15:01.27 | Maleko | 255.255.0.0 |
| 15:01.35 | tralala | and network? |
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| 15:01.52 | tralala | 172.16? |
| 15:01.56 | Maleko | yup |
| 15:02.04 | tralala | ok, it should work fine then |
| 15:02.14 | Maleko | omitting dev eth1 gives me that error too |
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| 15:02.26 | zilvin | you don't need '-4' |
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| 15:02.36 | zilvin | ip route add network/mask via ip |
| 15:02.51 | abrotman | zilvin: does it hurt though ? |
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| 15:03.08 | zilvin | i don't know if it does, just saying what i use |
| 15:03.12 | Maleko | # ip route add 172.16.234.116/16 via 172.16.0.254 |
| 15:03.13 | Maleko | RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument |
| 15:03.15 | Maleko | :p |
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| 15:03.30 | Maleko | *shrug* |
| 15:03.37 | tralala | Maleko: make sure eth1's ip is in 172.16.0.0/16 |
| 15:03.42 | zilvin | 172.16.234.116/16 |
| 15:03.46 | zilvin | if it's a /16 |
| 15:03.54 | zilvin | then you don't specify the 3rd and 4th octet |
| 15:03.57 | zilvin | 172.16.0.0/16 |
| 15:04.01 | zilvin | that's the correct network number |
| 15:04.08 | zilvin | such network number as 172.16.234.116/16 is not valid |
| 15:04.24 | zilvin | ip route add 172.16.0.0/16 via 172.16.0.254 |
| 15:04.26 | zilvin | should work |
| 15:05.10 | tralala | nice catch |
| 15:05.12 | Maleko | here's what i entered or the if ip |
| 15:05.16 | Maleko | for* |
| 15:05.19 | Maleko | $ ip -4 addr add 172.16.234.116/16 dev eth1 |
| 15:05.43 | tralala | Maleko: what exactly are you trying to achieve? |
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| 15:05.49 | zilvin | Maleko, what are you trying to achieve? |
| 15:05.59 | tralala | do you want to route a whole subnet or a single IP? |
| 15:06.24 | Maleko | whole subnet of the lan ip |
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| 15:06.41 | fir31ight | Maleko: looks correct for adding ip to interface |
| 15:06.44 | zilvin | Maleko |
| 15:06.54 | zilvin | ip route add 172.16.0.0 via 172.16.0.254 |
| 15:07.00 | zilvin | oh sorry |
| 15:07.03 | tralala | /16 |
| 15:07.06 | zilvin | ip route add 172.16.0.0/16 via 172.16.0.254 |
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| 15:07.23 | zilvin | that's true if you can reach 172.16.0.254 |
| 15:07.28 | zilvin | e.g. ping |
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| 15:08.48 | wuffi600 | i've just freshly installed squeeze but encountered some problems. Could you help me with this: http://pastebin.com/CJBXPWiW |
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| 15:09.46 | zilvin | wuffi600: not quite sure which problem you want us to solve :-) |
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| 15:18.25 | Iridos | zilvin, I see someone running commands with mixed success... but no actual obvious problem :) |
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| 15:18.54 | pathcl | hey fellows is there a way to ignore a mount fs on snmpd.conf? |
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| 15:19.59 | superuser_ir | how to unzip bz2 file |
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| 15:20.04 | superuser_ir | ? |
| 15:20.12 | Iridos | bunzip2? |
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| 15:21.25 | wuffi600 | zilvin: 1st problem: not every package allows dpkg-reconfigure. so "dpkg-reconfigure -a" stops directly after the first error. |
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| 15:24.39 | Iridos | wuffi600, fix the package that produces the error... |
| 15:25.23 | wuffi600 | Iridos: cron, gpm and time are not configurable. why? |
| 15:26.06 | wuffi600 | Iridos: how could i fix it? It's a fresh install where nothing has been customized till now |
| 15:26.15 | jhutchins_wk | wuffi600: They are not configurable through dpkg. That is not the correct way to configure them. |
| 15:26.30 | jhutchins_wk | wuffi600: What did you use to partition the disk? |
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| 15:27.28 | wuffi600 | jhutchins_wk: "dpkg-reconfigure -a" stops after package cron. i guess that is a not wished sideeffect. |
| 15:27.55 | jhutchins_wk | wuffi600: That doesn't happen on any of my squeeze systems. |
| 15:28.05 | Iridos | wuffi600, seems it tries to stop cron and it's just not running |
| 15:28.07 | jhutchins_wk | wuffi600: Perhaps an aptitude -f install? |
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| 15:29.23 | wuffi600 | jhutchins_wk: i booted latest squeeze with "expert install" and did "manual" partitioning of hdd, entered "0,5GB" for /dev/sda1, "4GB" for /dev/sda2, ... |
| 15:29.51 | jhutchins_wk | I think that uses parted. |
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| 15:30.52 | wuffi600 | jhutchins_wk: i installed 3x this way with different values. Always same result: "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.", so that i can not use cfdisk . |
| 15:31.24 | jhutchins_wk | So use parted instead. |
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| 15:35.17 | wuffi600 | jhutchins_wk: i've tried to reinstall using -f , http://pastebin.com/Uu826VGq . Could you give a hint what i could try next? |
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| 15:37.17 | Iridos | what is it you want to do dpkg-reconfigure on those for? |
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| 15:37.59 | Iridos | wuffi600, bugs.debian.org/596369 |
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| 15:39.03 | wuffi600 | Iridos: i would like "dpkg-reconfigure -a" not stop after the first errorous package like cron, gpm, time |
| 15:39.49 | wuffi600 | Iridos: ok, i could do a "for i in $(dpkg --get-selections | awk' { print $1 }'); do dpkg-reconfigure $i ; done", sure. |
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| 15:40.35 | wuffi600 | Iridos: thank you for the link about the bug. so i guess all three packages are buggy. |
| 15:40.39 | babilen | wuffi600: What do you expect that to accomplish? What are you relly trying to do? |
| 15:41.53 | kian | Hi. Is it possible to clone a debian system's packages, respecting distributions from which things are installed? (e.g., a certain package comes from unstable) |
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| 15:43.38 | jelly | kian: there's very little support for mixing releases, you'd have to make your own script. |
| 15:43.44 | Iridos | wuffi600, no, it was assigned to debconf... dpkg-reconfigure had the bug. I don't know who or what is supposed to set DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_NAME ... e.g. also see comment in this duplicate bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=604163 |
| 15:44.25 | Iridos | kian, no... it's not even trivial (and sometimes impossible) to tell from where a package comes |
| 15:45.02 | wuffi600 | Iridos: oh, thank you. sorry for keeping you you this long to such a "small" topic/bug. thanx |
| 15:45.10 | kian | jelly, Iridos: thanks |
| 15:45.17 | threadlock | i like how the '-r' flag is undocumented for lvresize in debian, but still "usable".. and how it gives you a WARNING!!! when the fs is mounted that it ***WILL*** cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage if you continue, and that if you choose no it still continues to resize the volume |
| 15:45.23 | threadlock | works like a charm though |
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| 15:45.55 | Iridos | wuffi600, and I also wonder why you're doing this... I think last time I needed to run dpkg-reconfigure -a must be... well years ago, if not a decade |
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| 15:46.48 | Iridos | but I also get dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: couldn't identify the package |
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| 15:47.12 | jelly | threadlock: it's documented in wheezy |
| 15:48.28 | jelly | threadlock: where "documented" means "points to a nonexistent fsadm(8) page" |
| 15:48.47 | threadlock | jelly: heh, ok =) |
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| 15:49.03 | threadlock | probably sorted out till wheezy is stable then (perhaps) |
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| 15:49.27 | jelly | but is it really that hard to run resize2fs or xfs_whatever after the fact |
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| 15:51.09 | wuffi600 | Iridos: i'm doing the dkpg-reconfigure -atypically directly after fresh install. Just to not forget to configure a single package and to see what the release's default are. It just comfortable. |
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| 15:52.21 | Iridos | wuffi600, bugs.debian.org/546577 is, I think on the underlying issue |
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| 15:52.38 | Iridos | judd, versions dpkg |
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| 15:52.39 | judd | Package: dpkg on i386 -- lenny: 1.14.31; lenny-security: 1.14.31; squeeze: 1.15.8.12; sid: 1.16.1.2; wheezy: 1.16.1.2; experimental: 1.16.2~wipmultiarch |
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| 15:53.04 | Iridos | hmm, but that was in 1.15.7 before squeezes version |
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| 15:54.54 | superuser_ir | ls |
| 15:55.03 | dvs | NO files found |
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| 15:58.49 | Iridos | gives dvs some files |
| 15:59.03 | dvs | Oooooooooo CIA |
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| 16:00.16 | revil | Hey guys! How can I use msn in debian stable? Most popular clients seems to have been outdated in the sence of the used protocol in the squeeze flavour |
| 16:00.17 | lilsyko | greetings :) |
| 16:01.50 | dvs | !tell revil about iceweasel backports |
| 16:02.03 | Iridos | huh? |
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| 16:02.08 | Iridos | iceweasel? |
| 16:02.33 | Iridos | dvs, I'd think he means that icq-like messaging thingy |
| 16:02.35 | dvs | msn is a web interface? Oh... does he mean messageer? |
| 16:02.56 | dvs | messenger too ;-) |
| 16:03.28 | revil | dvs, I am able to login from a web interface in msn, but I was referring to Kopete, pidgin, gaim, emesene, all of which seem to fail. |
| 16:03.45 | revil | Does the repo for iceweasel have messenger packages, too? |
| 16:03.56 | dvs | revil: no, I misunderstood |
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| 16:04.28 | dvs | revil: I use Kopete but it doesn't seem to let me know when it's logged in. |
| 16:04.47 | dvs | revil: I still get messages when I receive a new email though. |
| 16:05.21 | revil | oh :( So, what is the squeeze solution to the MSN problem? Is it due to outdated packages? (Using wheezy packages with the same home flder and PC, I can login without any problems. Of course though,its inconvenient) |
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| 16:08.06 | dvs | revil: I assume it's still kinda working because I still receive notifications but I actually haven't had a chat since the problems started. |
| 16:08.22 | revil | so, dvs, its not working then, is it? |
| 16:08.42 | revil | At the same time, all other clients seem to fail, too |
| 16:09.03 | thewanderer1 | protocols change, packages in stable do not... backport from wheezy |
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| 16:09.33 | revil | thewanderer1, were there any backports? I'l recheck |
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| 16:09.52 | thewanderer1 | if there are none, you should backport it yourself |
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| 16:11.00 | Iridos | judd, versions pidgin |
| 16:11.01 | judd | Package: pidgin on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.7.3-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze2; sid: 2.10.1-1; wheezy: 2.10.1-1 |
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| 16:11.08 | Iridos | revil, what client |
| 16:11.21 | Iridos | you can backport yourself |
| 16:11.21 | revil | Iridos, anyone, don't really mind |
| 16:11.28 | Iridos | dpkg, tell revil about ssb |
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| 16:11.46 | Iridos | or you can check if any has been backported |
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| 16:13.51 | babilen | ,checkbackport pidgin |
| 16:13.54 | judd | Backporting package pidgin in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgadu-dev (>= 1:1.11.0-2), network-manager-dev (>= 0.9.0) [linux-any]. |
| 16:13.57 | babilen | That will be a pain ^^^ |
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| 16:14.23 | Iridos | \o/ a new trick for judd |
| 16:14.55 | thewanderer1 | oh. |
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| 16:15.16 | thewanderer1 | but you can backport libgadu, no? it's a simple piece of software. about network-manager... crap. |
| 16:15.24 | jelly | dunno what libgadu is, but I'd try to just wing it with n-m |
| 16:15.39 | babilen | thewanderer1: yeah, nm is the problem here |
| 16:16.05 | revil | iridos, those packages are heavilly dependent. Kopete for example depends on kde-network, which in turn depends on kdelibs, whose update might break my system I'm affraid.. |
| 16:16.35 | babilen | revil: What about emesene? |
| 16:16.42 | babilen | ,v emesene |
| 16:16.43 | judd | Package: emesene on i386 -- lenny: 1.0-dist-4; squeeze: 1.6.3-1; sid: 2.12.1+dfsg-1; wheezy: 2.12.1+dfsg-1 |
| 16:16.43 | revil | Is backporting from sid in the need to backport all dependencies, too? |
| 16:16.47 | revil | hm.. |
| 16:17.16 | babilen | revil: emesene should be easy to backport from sid (if needed) |
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| 16:17.43 | thewanderer1 | hmm, does backporting network-manager require you to pull in GNOME3? |
| 16:17.51 | babilen | No idea if it is any good -- I luckily never had the need for a MSN client |
| 16:17.56 | revil | emesene depends on python, .. |
| 16:18.07 | jelly | would not backport NM |
| 16:18.11 | babilen | revil: Why is that a problem? |
| 16:18.54 | salvin | can i disable the strobe effect in gnome3 when i delete text from an empty field of a gtk app? |
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| 16:18.58 | jelly | thewanderer1: esp. if it's not a crucial dependency, see how kfreebsd are built without support for it |
| 16:19.24 | revil | babilen, I actually did an apt-get -t squeeze-backports emesene, and it complains about python dependencies in a way that doesn't allow me to install. What does this mean? |
| 16:19.39 | thewanderer1 | yes... it should be possible to configure without n-m (especially useful when you're not using it and it keeps complaining about no net connection, refusing to connect you) |
| 16:20.02 | thewanderer1 | just seen the n-m dependencies - backporting would be suicide :P |
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| 16:21.19 | LordShiva | did anyone of you use codelite ? |
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| 16:21.42 | babilen | revil: emesene is AFAICT not in bdo and I would have to see the error messages along with other information (/msg dpkg bat) in order to help. jelly raises an interesting point in that it might be possible to compile a newer version of pidgin without the network-manager dependencies (and features) -- That would, most likely, mean that you have to tinker with debian/rules and debian/control in the pidging source package from sid |
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| 16:22.21 | jelly | pidges babilen |
| 16:22.27 | babilen | revil: What I meant is that you should try emesene from squeeze or backport it from sid (which is easy) if you need a newer version |
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| 16:22.48 | revil | oh.. I didn't realize n-m was meant for me, thanks! :) |
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| 16:27.09 | jelly | never-mind |
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| 16:28.35 | salvin | can i disable the strobe effect in gnome3 when i delete text from an empty field of a gtk app? |
| 16:29.03 | Iridos | my squeeze doesn't have gnome3 |
| 16:29.24 | dvs | None do |
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| 16:29.37 | Iridos | that was my point :) |
| 16:29.48 | Iridos | dvs, backported! |
| 16:29.59 | dvs | places his bet on wheezy |
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| 16:32.43 | salvin | i thinks gnome2 makes a sound in that case |
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| 16:33.11 | octeris | is there an "easy" way to rollback an upgrade to a previous version? I'm testing an unattended upgrade script and would like to rollback a package or two after running the script to see how the output changes. |
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| 16:33.25 | salvin | i won't alert when i press delete key on an empty gtk field |
| 16:34.56 | octeris | I mean using apt-get by the way. |
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| 16:35.53 | salvin | Iridos: are there 1200 gnome2 users here? :P |
| 16:36.04 | dvs | and 3 KDE users |
| 16:36.12 | salvin | lol |
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| 16:36.36 | Iridos | octeris, dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/package.deb apt-get install package=version - caveat /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 16:36.46 | Iridos | salvin, or 1200 fvwm2 users? |
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| 16:37.40 | octeris | Iridos: interesting, thanks |
| 16:38.11 | jelly | dvs: four! |
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| 16:38.34 | dvs | uh, they're leaving! |
| 16:38.40 | salvin | Iridos: 1200 fvwm2 users don't exist |
| 16:39.23 | Iridos | salvin, yeah... they're all leaving since you said that... channel will be empty in half an hour |
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| 16:39.40 | azertyu | hello there |
| 16:39.43 | azertyu | anyone here ? |
| 16:39.51 | Iridos | no |
| 16:39.53 | dvs | stays quite |
| 16:39.57 | dvs | quiet too |
| 16:39.58 | Iridos | dvs, quite what |
| 16:40.04 | somiaj | fvwm users do exist, they are just quietly happy with their wm. (: |
| 16:40.05 | Iridos | ah quite quiet |
| 16:40.07 | revil | How can I install the build-dep packages from squeeze, when the source is only available on wheezy? Will at-get source -t testing fetch from testing? ( I have apt::defaultdistro stable and repos from bioth flavours) |
| 16:40.30 | somiaj | revil: apt-get build-dep foo (this only install things from your 'deb' sources) |
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| 16:40.45 | azertyu | well system reboot 3 times per day i got this errorr on my log |
| 16:40.49 | somiaj | revil: as long as you don't mix squeeze and testing deb sources (you should never do this) it will install the squeeze versions. |
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| 16:41.03 | salvin | Iridos: ok, i'll wait that eating popcorn |
| 16:41.32 | revil | somiaj, I am backporting from wheezy, so it would be convenient to have the dependencies been drawn from a deb-src in this flavour. Thus the need :) |
| 16:41.40 | Iridos | \o/ --> \O/ ---> \( ° ^ ° )/ ---> BOOM |
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| 16:42.33 | azertyu | well system reboot 3 times per day i got this errorr on my log : [kern.info] kernel Copyright (C) 2004 MontaVista Software - IPMI Powerdown via sys_reboot. |
| 16:42.40 | salvin | somiaj: they are just trying to make usable their wm |
| 16:42.41 | azertyu | what that it means ? |
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| 16:44.37 | ksk | azertyu: probably someone speaks IPMI to your computers BMC and makes it reboot |
| 16:45.01 | azertyu | that's what i don't want |
| 16:45.05 | azertyu | how to avoid that one ? |
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| 16:46.07 | somiaj | revil: pay attention to the difference between a binary and a source package. the build-dep are binary packages so they are installed from a binary package repo (which is squeeze) |
| 16:46.44 | somiaj | revil: while a source package is mearly the source code to make a binary package, these come from the deb-src sources. If you need to backport any build-dep to get your backport to work you will have to figure out which ones need to be backported and backport them as well |
| 16:46.50 | revil | somiaj, yes, but aren't dependencies of a package concluded from data in the deb-src equivalent? |
| 16:46.52 | somiaj | revil: what package are you trying to backport. |
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| 16:47.46 | somiaj | revil: correct, the build-deb come from the source package, but it will install the binary packages required to build the package. Note there are wheezy packages which cannot be built in squeeze by default due to build-deps |
| 16:48.21 | somiaj | revil: this is because a newer version of the libary is needed for some reason. Depending on how many newer libaries are needed backporting said package may not be easy or possible. If you tell me what package you want to backport I can figure out what sort of issues you will have |
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| 16:48.48 | revil | somiaj, I did come across many of them. I am trying to backport msn clients (from wheezy), currently pidgin. |
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| 16:49.03 | somiaj | ,check-backport pidgin |
| 16:49.06 | judd | Backporting package pidgin in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgadu-dev (>= 1:1.11.0-2), network-manager-dev (>= 0.9.0) [linux-any]. |
| 16:49.07 | revil | So, I apt-get sourced -t wheezy pidgin, |
| 16:49.46 | somiaj | revil: If you need an msn client I don't think pidgin works anymore (I haven't been able to authenticate with the msn network for sometime with pidgin in sid) |
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| 16:50.16 | revil | somiaj, really? Did you have success with some other client? |
| 16:50.36 | revil | is abandoning backporting pidgin |
| 16:51.01 | somiaj | revil: actually it was due to me changing password, not pidgin, just checked. Yes pidgin works just fine |
| 16:51.21 | revil | oh, good... |
| 16:51.42 | revil | so, how did you backport from sid? |
| 16:51.47 | LordShiva | did anyone use codelite new version 3.5 on debian ? |
| 16:51.48 | revil | or didn't you? |
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| 16:52.20 | somiaj | revil: I just run sid, I live on the wild side (though my sound no longer works since my last dist-upgrade so I live on the quiet wild side) |
| 16:52.33 | somiaj | revil: but you can /msg judd check-backport <src package> |
| 16:52.41 | nukenn | does anybody already config. LACP in debian squeeze ? |
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| 16:52.59 | somiaj | revil: as I showed you pidgin has some issues, so you'll have to backport its issues. There is no automated script to do this, you'll have to do each dependency issue on at a time |
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| 16:53.18 | LordShiva | I build it from source and still get the error message when execute program that I compile |
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| 16:53.37 | nukenn | i'm trying to make a linkaggregation with two nics gigabit |
| 16:53.39 | somiaj | LordShiva: are you building from upstream source? |
| 16:53.50 | somiaj | ,versions codelite |
| 16:53.51 | judd | Package: codelite on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.0.4189~dfsg-1; sid: 2.8.0.4537~dfsg-4 |
| 16:53.53 | LordShiva | no ubuntu package |
| 16:54.05 | LordShiva | new 3.5 |
| 16:54.05 | nukenn | but the speed stay 1Gb when I do the LACP |
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| 16:54.19 | somiaj | LordShiva: are you running ubuntu? Have you tried to apt-get build-dep codelite? |
| 16:54.34 | LordShiva | yep |
| 16:54.56 | somiaj | LordShiva: if you are running ubuntu goto #ubuntu |
| 16:55.00 | Iridos | judd, check-backport sim |
| 16:55.02 | judd | No package named 'sim' was found in sid/i386. |
| 16:55.35 | revil | judd, check-backport pidgin |
| 16:55.37 | judd | Backporting package pidgin in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgadu-dev (>= 1:1.11.0-2), network-manager-dev (>= 0.9.0) [linux-any]. |
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| 16:56.09 | somiaj | revil: you can do that in a /msg judd check-backport (just so you don't spam the channell to much) |
| 16:56.12 | jelly | nukenn: how did you configure bonding on the Linux side? |
| 16:56.44 | somiaj | revil: looks like you'll have to backport libgadu-dev and network-manager (stupid thing depending on nm...personally I'd try to modfy the debian/rules script and take out that nm dependency...) (: |
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| 16:56.59 | jelly | nukenn: http://wiki.debian.org/Bonding |
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| 16:57.14 | Iridos | revil, ha, time to change from MSN to something else... as already discussed up there, you have to skip the network-manager dependency or you're in for hard times... which means changing the configuration and dependency file of the package |
| 16:57.51 | revil | somiaj, no, I wanted to draw some attention to the issue |
| 16:58.18 | somiaj | ,check-backport amsn |
| 16:58.19 | nukenn | jelly: yes, i've configured and i run cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0 and show me that it's working fine |
| 16:58.20 | judd | No package named 'amsn' was found in sid/i386. |
| 16:58.43 | jelly | nukenn: can your other end do more than 1Gbps? |
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| 17:00.03 | somiaj | revil: I think it is strange it has that as a build dep, because you don't need nm to install pidgin...:/ |
| 17:00.08 | nukenn | jelly: i have two servers, i'm configuring the bond in both |
| 17:00.18 | nukenn | jelly: i've configured on the switch too |
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| 17:01.10 | nukenn | jelly: when I transfer i file between then, the speed stay 50Mb/s |
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| 17:08.38 | rozie | hi. what are reqirements for public mirrors? I found data about disc space, but I wonder what are requirements for bandwidth |
| 17:09.02 | rozie | is 100 Mbps enough? |
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| 17:09.51 | dondelelcaro | rozie: more the better, but primary mirrors can pretty easily saturate gigabit |
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| 17:10.15 | somiaj | rozie, I don't think there is any set banwidth requirement. But it will depend on how many people you want/expect to use the mirror. |
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| 17:11.05 | somiaj | rozie: are you mirroring just stable or wanting to mirror testing/unstable (rolling releases) |
| 17:11.20 | somiaj | well shouldn't say rolling releases, should say moving targets |
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| 17:11.30 | rozie | somiaj: I cannot predict how many people will use this mirror ;) |
| 17:11.55 | somiaj | rozie: my guess is enough will use it until your bandwith is used up. (: |
| 17:12.23 | rozie | we have some spare resources in company, we consider mirroring debian (and ubuntu) archives |
| 17:12.24 | Iridos | nah |
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| 17:13.13 | rozie | but we need to estimate resources |
| 17:13.24 | somiaj | rozie: you'll get different bandwith ussage depending on if you want to just mirror the stable release vs the testing/unstable repos. |
| 17:14.23 | dondelelcaro | you actually can't really just mirror the stable release |
| 17:14.31 | dondelelcaro | or at least, you can't easily do that |
| 17:14.53 | rozie | I understand. still don't know if we're talking about 100 Mbps, 1 Gig or 10 Gig connection to be enough ;) |
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| 17:15.31 | dondelelcaro | rozie: some mirrors have 100Mb, some have more |
| 17:15.45 | dondelelcaro | rozie: whatever you have will be useful |
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| 17:15.57 | dondelelcaro | (assuming it's at least 100Mb) |
| 17:16.07 | rozie | 100 Mbps is not a problem |
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| 17:17.45 | rozie | is there any anycast or similar load-balancing mechanism for archives? |
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| 17:18.16 | rozie | I guess right now we depend on what user types in his apt.conf |
| 17:18.46 | rozie | there are tools to choose theoreticly the best mirror |
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| 17:19.11 | rozie | but maybe it'll be wise to have such a mechanism? |
| 17:19.24 | daemonkeeper | rozie: cdn.debian.net? |
| 17:19.25 | Iridos | there's cdn now |
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| 17:22.30 | somiaj | really dislikes touchpads on laptops and wished I didn't forget my mouse at home. |
| 17:22.52 | rozie | OK didn't know that - still using old way, must switch... |
| 17:23.04 | dvs | hands somiaj an "erasertop" |
| 17:23.21 | Iridos | rozie, of course fails if you're using an international dns |
| 17:24.08 | Iridos | rozie, nuffin wrong with choosing your mirror... ftp.<countrycode>.debian.net also isn't just a single server afaik |
| 17:24.33 | daemonkeeper | Depends on the country code, but yes. |
| 17:24.40 | Iridos | ha |
| 17:24.57 | Iridos | vatican |
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| 17:28.27 | Iridos | Monaco |
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| 17:28.52 | daemonkeeper | http://www.debian.org/mirror/list You will find one or two countries without mirror ... |
| 17:29.21 | Iridos | now I gotta look up the country code for vatican city and check if it got a debian mirror |
| 17:29.27 | Iridos | va |
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| 17:29.57 | Iridos | nope |
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| 17:30.03 | Iridos | seems the pope uses windows |
| 17:30.27 | Iridos | guess that's ok, seeing as he represents a proprietary religion |
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| 17:30.37 | DammitJim | Iridos, where do you see that? |
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| 17:31.38 | Iridos | DammitJim, see above... no debian mirror for .va ;) |
| 17:31.48 | DammitJim | lol |
| 17:31.54 | DammitJim | that's ok... they get it from .it? |
| 17:32.52 | Iridos | DammitJim, if you ran your own country and used Debian... would you run your own mirror, or depend on Italy? |
| 17:32.57 | Iridos | q.e.d. |
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| 17:34.19 | DammitJim | I see your point... you are saying not enough people in the Vatican are using Debian to make it worthwhile to them to have their own mirror |
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| 17:35.53 | jhutchins_wk | The swiss servers for Mandriva were always faster than any of the US servers. |
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| 17:36.17 | jhutchins_wk | Physical proximity != network proximity. |
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| 17:39.33 | SgrA | I need to install Debian Wheezy on a system right away. How do I go about doing it? |
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| 17:40.12 | dvs | SgrA: Install squeeze, upgrade to wheezy |
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| 17:40.58 | SgrA | Can't do it right away? |
| 17:41.25 | dvs | SgrA: It does have an installer but it may or may not work. |
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| 17:41.57 | SgrA | dvs: I'd give it a try since I have limited bandwidth. Where is it? |
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| 17:43.23 | babilen | SgrA: Note that the testing install is not meant for installing testing, but for testing the installer. It might very well result in an unusable system, but you can find it at: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- Note that the buld of bandwith will be used by packages you download anyway and that it therefore makes sense to use a stable installer to install a minimal squeeze system first and take it from there. |
| 17:43.23 | Guest37016 | hello, i have a strange error in my bash script: syntaxerror unexpected word `}' but i cant figure my mistake |
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| 17:43.44 | Iridos | SgrA, the netinstall is only about 200Mb... and you'll waste more if you download the wheezy installer (which is for testing the installer) and then still have to go the other way |
| 17:43.49 | babilen | Guest37016: Sounds as if you want to ask in #bash (and paste the script somewhere + error) |
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| 17:43.53 | SgrA | ah |
| 17:44.05 | Guest37016 | babilen, oh thx |
| 17:44.06 | babilen | s/buld/bulk :-/ |
| 17:44.23 | nyingen | SgrA: I installed squeeze and upgraded it to wheezy a few days ago, and it was quick and painless, so I'd just do that if I were you |
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| 17:44.48 | SgrA | So just install squeeze the right way, then edit sources.list to point to wheezy, right? |
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| 17:45.06 | babilen | SgrA: Please also read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable as a lot of tips/notes apply to testing as well. |
| 17:45.08 | Iridos | actually |
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| 17:46.31 | jeward | I'm having some difficulties upgrading MySQL this morning. |
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| 17:46.46 | jeward | Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server |
| 17:47.01 | babilen | !tell jeward -about bat |
| 17:48.10 | jeward | babilen: Working on it. |
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| 17:51.58 | plln | hi. i have a problem |
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| 17:52.19 | plln | i have a ubuntu server but stupid person was banned me! |
| 17:52.25 | plln | whatever |
| 17:52.43 | jeward | http://paste.debian.net/159741/ |
| 17:52.44 | plln | i want to open root access on gui |
| 17:53.05 | plln | when i tryed it says admin can not login this screen |
| 17:53.12 | jeward | babilen: Is that helpful? |
| 17:53.33 | plln | how can i open root access on gdm or xfce |
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| 17:54.43 | lasers` | Hi. Is LAMP same as xampp-linux? |
| 17:55.12 | _niCe_ | hi, got a small problem, atm my root server is making some trouble, but to fix this i have to shut down some services, now this is what i don't want to do - is there a way how i can download the entire system without shutting it down? |
| 17:55.24 | jeward | I'm having a problem upgrading MySQL this morning: http://paste.debian.net/159741/ Can anyone assist? |
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| 17:56.46 | plln | jeward: plase share /var/log/mysqld.log |
| 17:57.02 | somiaj | _niCe_: what do you mean by download the entire system? |
| 17:57.24 | somiaj | _niCe_: what file system do you use? Do you use lvm? |
| 17:57.25 | jeward | plln: I think that is in a different file, but I'll show it to you. |
| 17:57.37 | plln | invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. |
| 17:57.52 | plln | it says clearly mysql service failed |
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| 17:58.04 | plln | if you share your /var/log/mysqld.log file |
| 17:58.07 | jeward | plln: Yes, but I can't figure out why. |
| 17:58.13 | _niCe_ | somiaj, no not LVM, i'd like to cange it but no ^^ |
| 17:58.26 | jeward | plln: There is not such file. I think it is in another file. |
| 17:58.31 | plln | show as your log file than i will say to you why |
| 17:58.51 | jeward | plln: Working on it. |
| 17:58.57 | _niCe_ | somiaj, and yes the entire system |
| 17:59.24 | plln | cd /var log |
| 17:59.33 | plln | ls all |grep mysql |
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| 17:59.45 | plln | [/var/log/mysql.log |
| 18:00.22 | daemonkeeper | lasers`: LAMP is a shortcut for a popular software stack combination, xampp is an example of such a ready-to-use stack. No reason to use the latter in Debian, though. |
| 18:00.54 | jeward | plln: Did you want mysql.log or mysqld.log? |
| 18:00.57 | plln | any help for opening root access on gui |
| 18:01.11 | plln | i am a fedora user so my log file is mysqld.log |
| 18:01.15 | plln | you are a debian user |
| 18:01.21 | plln | so your file is probably mysql.log |
| 18:01.31 | somiaj | _niCe_: well there is no nice way to do this since durning the time it takes to download your data could change since it is an active server. Any reason why it has to be the whole system and you don't just download the user data from the server onto another server to take over? |
| 18:01.35 | jeward | plln: I would log as root on the console, stop gdm and startx. |
| 18:01.40 | daemonkeeper | plln: mysql logs to syslog |
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| 18:02.07 | somiaj | _niCe_: rsync is a nice tool, but the issue is making sure your data dosen't change durning the download/backup/snapshot |
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| 18:02.29 | _niCe_ | well i have got to find out why it is buggy, so just the userdata wont work >.< |
| 18:02.53 | jeward | This is the only mysql error I see in syslog from today: Mar 14 10:48:54 kw89 mysqld_safe[17791]: ERROR: 1064 You have an error in your |
| 18:02.53 | jeward | SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for t |
| 18:02.54 | jeward | he right syntax to use near 'ALTER TABLE user ADD column Show_view_priv enum('N' |
| 18:02.54 | jeward | ,'Y') CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT ' at line 1 |
| 18:02.54 | somiaj | plln: you can run paticular applications with root privlages from your current gui with sudo. |
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| 18:03.17 | jeward | Ooops. |
| 18:03.39 | plln | somiaj: i know but i need to open root acess to gui :D |
| 18:03.46 | jeward | http://paste.debian.net/159744/ |
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| 18:04.16 | _niCe_ | somiaj, well i have got to find out why it is buggy, so just the userdata wont work >.< |
| 18:04.17 | jeward | Is it possible the new version of MySQL balks at this statement and the old one does not? |
| 18:04.23 | jeward | The old version still runs. |
| 18:04.24 | plln | jeward: this is only sql query logs |
| 18:04.27 | somiaj | plln: why? As suggested you can run startx as root, you can even say run startx -- :1 if you want to just run a secondary xserver. |
| 18:04.43 | plln | i have a virtualbox |
| 18:04.53 | jeward | Is there an easy way to paste files? |
| 18:04.54 | Coornail | add column tinyint(1); ???; profit |
| 18:04.55 | plln | i installed ubuntu server on it |
| 18:05.04 | Coornail | jeward: there is a pastebin program |
| 18:05.12 | somiaj | _niCe_: copy the user data to another server, let it take over the servericse so you don't have any down time and then go figure out what is wrong with that server? |
| 18:05.21 | jeward | Coornail: installing |
| 18:05.22 | Coornail | jeward: pastebinit |
| 18:05.37 | Coornail | you can pipe in thing and it will pastebin it, awesome stuff |
| 18:06.07 | lasers` | daemonkeeper: Thank you. I'll try and install lamp. |
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| 18:06.11 | plln | jeward: i must warn you some times mysql will logs your own password to log file |
| 18:06.23 | plln | if you share with that plase change after you fix it |
| 18:06.24 | jeward | plln: Thanks, I'll check for that. |
| 18:07.03 | _niCe_ | somiaj, some problems with openvz, now i want to change to kvm but that doesn't seam to work |
| 18:07.31 | plln | sorry guys but debian sucks or my action is lame |
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| 18:07.57 | plln | arch & fedora rocks :) |
| 18:08.01 | daemonkeeper | lasers`: You realize "lamp" means "Linux Apache MySQL PHP". It's not you could install "lamp". Install individual packages. |
| 18:08.33 | lasers` | daemonkeeper: I'm learning how to do web development so everything is new to me. :) |
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| 18:08.55 | daemonkeeper | plln: I'm sure about that. But you failing to read logs does not mean its the distribution having problems. |
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| 18:09.36 | plln | daemonkeeper: i am not read logs |
| 18:09.45 | plln | i am trying to open access for root |
| 18:09.51 | plln | ( virtual machine ) |
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| 18:10.10 | Buglouse | Is it expected behaviour for apt-get to not be notified of /installed/ packages? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/565613/ |
| 18:10.26 | plln | [on deamon ] |
| 18:10.28 | plln | gui |
| 18:10.36 | jeward | The log I think you're asking for: http://pastebin.com/Ga7bE7gf |
| 18:10.46 | FerchoLP | is it possible that due to an I/O error in a partition (which is NOT / ), debian stops loading services and doesn't setup network interfaces? |
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| 18:11.04 | jeward | I don't see any errors in http://pastebin.com/Ga7bE7gf ? |
| 18:11.16 | movl | FerchoLP: if that partition is /usr |
| 18:11.22 | jeward | Is that the wrong log? /var/log/mysql.log is empty. |
| 18:12.29 | plln | jeward: there is no error record on this file |
| 18:12.31 | daemonkeeper | As I said, startup errors go to syslog. |
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| 18:12.37 | plln | try /var/log/messages |
| 18:12.45 | daemonkeeper | s/messages/syslog/ |
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| 18:12.50 | plln | { /var/log/syslog |
| 18:12.51 | jeward | plln: Right, but aptitude says it is not MySQL is not upgraded. |
| 18:12.57 | FerchoLP | mm, no, but maybe there were errors in the disk which contains / too :/ |
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| 18:13.07 | TheBeast | is there any way of instructing di to install certain packages from a different repo, possibly an external ppa resource? |
| 18:13.08 | jeward | plln: Okay, I'll grep all mysql lines from syslog. |
| 18:13.22 | plln | that will be good |
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| 18:13.40 | FerchoLP | it was weird that it entered maintance mode, fsck was run, and after rebooting network interfaces were still down and it was necessary to do ifup manually |
| 18:13.55 | jeward | plln: http://pastebin.com/p90YhEsz |
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| 18:14.55 | jeward | plln: The ERROR: 1064 seems to be the only problem logged? |
| 18:15.09 | plln | 1064 means your sql code is wrong |
| 18:15.19 | plln | or query |
| 18:15.23 | plln | wrong |
| 18:15.28 | jeward | plln: Right, is that what's stopping MySQL from upgrading? |
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| 18:15.46 | plln | i am looking for logs |
| 18:15.48 | plln | it huge |
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| 18:15.57 | plln | when i finished i will say |
| 18:16.13 | plln | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.22 | calculon | ..!., |
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| 18:16.39 | calculon | it's to you |
| 18:16.44 | jeward | plln: I need to do that? |
| 18:16.51 | doug | what's the best (most thorough?) way to know what package will provide a particular path? |
| 18:17.15 | plln | remember when you share your logs remove your information lines |
| 18:17.26 | jeward | plln: Hostname is fine. |
| 18:17.28 | plln | example host, port, user, pass |
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| 18:18.00 | jeward | plln: I don't see any reason MySQL upgrade is failing. |
| 18:18.15 | jeward | plln: Maybe aptitude is confused? |
| 18:18.25 | doug | what do i install to get /usr/lib/qt4/bin/lrelease-qt4 ? |
| 18:18.36 | daemonkeeper | Mar 14 11:08:23 kw89 mysqld_safe[20425]: ERROR: 1064 You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ALTER TABLE user ADD column Show_view_priv enum('N','Y') CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT ' at line 1 <- sounds like a good reason |
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| 18:18.54 | jeward | daemonkeeper: Is that the problem? |
| 18:19.00 | daemonkeeper | Yes. |
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| 18:19.20 | jeward | daemonkeeper: New version of MySQL chokes on that where the old one doesn't? |
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| 18:19.54 | doug | hm, maybe nobody's ever before had to find out what package a file comes from |
| 18:19.57 | plln | jeward: |
| 18:20.02 | plln | i found why |
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| 18:20.08 | plln | http://e-mats.org/2010/01/dpkg-configure-error-for-mysql-server-5-1/ |
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| 18:20.26 | plln | it is reaaly weird bug |
| 18:20.44 | daemonkeeper | It's the script in line 211 triggering the error: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-mysql/mysql-5.1/branches/stable-security/debian/mysql-server-5.1.postinst?view=markup |
| 18:21.02 | plln | open /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
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| 18:21.04 | jeward | plln: root@kw89:/var/log# grep bdb /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 18:21.04 | jeward | #skip-bdb |
| 18:21.10 | plln | yes |
| 18:21.17 | plln | skip-bdb to #skip-bdb |
| 18:21.28 | jeward | plln: Already was last upgrade. |
| 18:21.54 | jeward | daemonkeeper: I'm looking at your link, but not sure what to do with it? |
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| 18:23.34 | daemonkeeper | Well, it would be interesting what exactly the query is, being executed. |
| 18:23.39 | jeward | daemonkeeper: Is it suggesting the mysql root password was unset? |
| 18:23.46 | daemonkeeper | In the script it looks sane. |
| 18:24.12 | jeward | daemonkeeper: I'm seeing this problem on three servers so far. |
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| 18:24.25 | jeward | daemonkeeper: Most are upgrading fine. |
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| 18:24.41 | daemonkeeper | jeward: Chances are, this is a regression introduced by DSA-2429-1 |
| 18:24.53 | jeward | daemonkeeper: What do you recommend? |
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| 18:25.41 | daemonkeeper | jeward: Try #debian-security / file a bug. As a start, I'd enable query logs and see what /exactly/ the SQL query executed is, then try to see why it fails. |
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| 18:26.01 | jeward | daemonkeeper: Thanks! |
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| 18:26.46 | jeward | daemonkeeper: #debian-security is empty? |
| 18:26.54 | daemonkeeper | jeward: eh, sorry, on OFTC. |
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| 18:27.00 | zeleboba1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.02 | jeward | Ah, thanks! |
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| 18:28.37 | daemonkeeper | jeward: To get best support, try to find out what exactly the query executed is, by looking at the code it does not look wrong. Then see why it fails (e.g. compare with your current mysql schema layout) |
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| 18:30.01 | jeward | daemonkeeper: Sadly, I don't know how to do that. |
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| 18:30.53 | no_gravity | Hello! In Debian with the default gnome install, can I map my own key-bindings? For example, I would like to map the WINDOWS-KEY+J to down, so I can scroll down on websites by this key-combo. |
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| 18:34.56 | imgrey | hello #debian |
| 18:35.06 | imgrey | during installation I set language to GB |
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| 18:35.12 | imgrey | and I got weird layout |
| 18:35.20 | imgrey | I deleted GB language |
| 18:35.34 | imgrey | but after Xorg restart I get it in the list |
| 18:35.40 | imgrey | how to remove it permanently ? |
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| 18:36.55 | karlpinc | imgrey: You may need to purge the package, although that sounds odd. |
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| 18:37.11 | imgrey | kareem, what package ? |
| 18:37.30 | karlpinc | imgrey: Whatever package you deleted. |
| 18:37.49 | imgrey | what ? |
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| 18:37.55 | imgrey | I didnt delete anything |
| 18:38.12 | karlpinc | imgrey: "imgrey> I deleted GB language" |
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| 18:38.25 | klys | ~wayland |
| 18:38.38 | imgrey | kareem, I deleted it from menu |
| 18:38.44 | plln | voila i did iy |
| 18:38.51 | plln | finally i am root |
| 18:39.08 | thewanderer1 | imgrey, from what menu? |
| 18:39.12 | klys | plln how? |
| 18:39.43 | plln | firstly root passwords must be change |
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| 18:39.58 | karlpinc | imgrey: What menu? (In any case, if it's a kernel setting it might be easiest to reboot to get rid of it entirely -- although there may be another way. I don't really know what you're talking about.) |
| 18:40.00 | qdb | hello. i installed debian but i at first installation deselcted desktop. and then i have installed desktop from repo. but i have had few programs, almost only desktop, but gedit nd evolution were there. what would happen if i installed desktop from cd? and happens if i select desktop while installing from live cd? i see that openoffice , also many programs (also administrative programs, network manager etc) are in live cd, will they be installed? |
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| 18:40.30 | plln | apt-get install yourProgram |
| 18:40.32 | karlpinc | !tell qdb about tasksel |
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| 18:40.57 | karlpinc | qdb: You can use tasksel to install a whole bunch of stuff at once, or just install individual packages as desired. |
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| 18:41.54 | keith4 | I have journaled quotas enabled on /home. How do I set a default quota for new users? |
| 18:42.20 | qdb | karlpinc, can you assure that selecting desktop in it , or in tasksel in installation stage, which may be different, will install what i see in live cd? |
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| 18:44.01 | karlpinc | keith4: Best to refer to the debian reference at debian.org. I think there's a pam module, but I'm not sure that's the right way to do it. |
| 18:44.12 | karlpinc | keith4: You could ask here again later too. |
| 18:44.27 | keith4 | karlpinc: ooh, pam module. good call |
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| 18:44.31 | plln | now i am gonna love debian |
| 18:44.42 | jeward | plln: :-) |
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| 18:44.47 | dvs | how do you know/???? |
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| 18:45.03 | plln | i am almost work for this 30 minutes |
| 18:45.04 | karlpinc | qdb: It's all the same. (Although I'm not familiar with the live cd, believe they use exactly what's in the install.) |
| 18:45.24 | plln | only think is change root password and start xfce :) |
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| 18:45.53 | karlpinc | qdb: The live cd may have a smaller set of packages because it must fit on the cd. |
| 18:46.07 | argentineandude | Hi there, I'm having a serious problem with luks+initramfs derived from a bug in wheezy. Cannot get the initramfs to work back, and it has come to a point where I need to reinstall, which is a very bad alternative for me. |
| 18:46.17 | argentineandude | Can anyone lend me a hand, please? |
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| 18:48.03 | plln | omg. thunar has a purple info box |
| 18:48.08 | jelly-home | argentineandude: try irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-next channel for issues with wheezy |
| 18:48.21 | plln | it says you are using root account you may harm your system |
| 18:48.30 | plln | i am gonna exec rm -rf / |
| 18:48.37 | jelly-home | !tell argentineandude about debug initramfs |
| 18:49.41 | karlpinc | keith4: Glancing at the pam docs I don't see it. :-( I bet if you did "man -k quota" you'd find something. |
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| 18:50.31 | argentineandude | jelly-home: alright |
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| 18:51.21 | keith4 | karlpinc: there is a pam module. it's a google code project, though |
| 18:51.36 | argentineandude | jelly-home: but debian-next is invite only ... |
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| 18:52.08 | jelly-home | argentineandude: on this network, yes. Go to irc.debian.org. |
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| 18:52.20 | argentineandude | jelly-home: ACK that. Thanks |
| 18:52.25 | keith4 | for anyone's future reference, it's http://code.google.com/p/pam-setquota/ |
| 18:52.28 | drakythe | I seem to be doing somrthing wrong, again. The command to install a specific version of gcc would be "apt-get install gcc-4.3" ? |
| 18:53.08 | valdyn | drakythe: the command to install a package is not special for gcc |
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| 18:53.29 | drakythe | valdyn: I don't want gcc-4.4 I need 4.3 |
| 18:53.37 | kesroesweyth | I have a simple bash script that performs a mysql query and I want to run the script using 'watch' so it will auto-refresh every few seconds, but I lose the formatting in the mysql results when I run the script with 'watch'. |
| 18:53.43 | valdyn | drakythe: what is your actual problem? |
| 18:53.54 | kesroesweyth | Looks fine if I run the script manually. Anyone know why? |
| 18:54.34 | drakythe | valdyn: installing vmware tools. It needs a C compiler that matches my kernel headers, kernel headers say gcc 4.3.5, system has 4.4.5, it throws a bit of a fit. I'd like to back down to gcc-4.3.5 but apt-get install always goes after the more recent version |
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| 18:55.06 | valdyn | drakythe: apt-get install gcc does not install the most recent but the default for the release |
| 18:55.14 | chao | I have a 38 GiB and FAST growing ~/.xsession-errors file |
| 18:55.19 | chao | What's up with that |
| 18:55.19 | valdyn | judd: versions gcc-4.3 |
| 18:55.20 | judd | Package: gcc-4.3 on i386 -- lenny: 4.3.2-1.1; lenny-backports: 4.3.4-6~bpo50+1; squeeze: 4.3.5-4 |
| 18:55.31 | kevlarman | chao: slim? |
| 18:55.39 | chao | Slim what? |
| 18:55.45 | kevlarman | are you using it? |
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| 18:55.57 | drakythe | valdyn: how do you specify which release you'd like? |
| 18:56.00 | karlpinc | keith4: openbsd has edquota -p. You may need to wrap adduser in your own script. |
| 18:56.02 | valdyn | judd: now, since gcc-4.3 is avaiable in debian/stable I cant see what your problem is when you obviously know how to install it |
| 18:56.13 | valdyn | drakythe: ^^ |
| 18:56.27 | chao | I don't know what slim is |
| 18:56.28 | karlpinc | keith4: In other words, there may be no default. |
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| 18:56.33 | karlpinc | !tell chao about slim |
| 18:56.45 | chao | No I use kdm |
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| 18:57.10 | kevlarman | chao: wine? |
| 18:57.21 | valdyn | drakythe: "why is whatever im doing using gcc-4.4 while I want it to use gcc-4.3, which is also installed?" |
| 18:57.23 | chao | I have it installed but it is not running. |
| 18:57.31 | chao | I think maybe I should just delete the file and reboot |
| 18:57.33 | kevlarman | or just look at the file, it should be pretty obvious what is printing that much to it |
| 18:59.03 | drakythe | valdyn: Yeah, that would pretty be my problem it woudl seem |
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| 18:59.10 | valdyn | drakythe: how do you compile whatever you are trying to compile? Give the actual command. |
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| 19:00.12 | drakythe | valdyn: its a script. ./vmware-install.pl |
| 19:00.17 | kevlarman | chao: anyway yeah feel free to delete the file, but generally you want to figure out what's causing the problem, not work around it |
| 19:00.28 | plln | how can i do if root login on system after 5 minutes automatically kick roots |
| 19:00.57 | chao | kevlarman: How do I open a 39GiB text file without bad things happening |
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| 19:01.11 | kevlarman | chao: less is generally the simplest |
| 19:01.18 | kevlarman | chao: or even tail |
| 19:01.23 | valdyn | drakythe: ok, i cant say for sure then. Try these "CC=gcc-4.3 ./vmware-install.pl" or "MAKEFLAGS=CC=gcc-4.3 ./vmware-install.pl" |
| 19:01.26 | plln | chao: split it |
| 19:01.28 | karlpinc | plln: Check out the TMOUT env var in "man bash". |
| 19:01.29 | plln | to small parts |
| 19:01.31 | chao | less doesn't load the whole file? |
| 19:01.38 | kevlarman | chao: nope |
| 19:01.39 | chao | plln: I don't know how to split |
| 19:01.52 | plln | if it has new lines |
| 19:02.01 | kevlarman | chao: just tail -n 10000 ~/.xsession-errors|less |
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| 19:02.31 | plln | split -l 300 file.txt new |
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| 19:02.45 | plln | the new file only 300 line |
| 19:02.59 | kevlarman | chao: 32 bit programs can't even put the whole thing in memory |
| 19:03.11 | drakythe | valdyn: Cheers, that did the trick :D |
| 19:03.44 | plln | karlpinc: TMOut is cool but i need to also stop the timer |
| 19:03.50 | kevlarman | (and even if they could, they'd mmap it, which doesn't result in the file being loaded immediately) |
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| 19:03.54 | chao | I have a 64-bit install |
| 19:03.59 | karlpinc | plln: export TMOUT=0 |
| 19:04.09 | chao | So I deleted it as root, but I only have 4.x GiB free |
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| 19:04.24 | bolt | ssh spike |
| 19:04.26 | plln | :D |
| 19:04.28 | bolt | gah. wrong window |
| 19:04.29 | plln | du -h |
| 19:04.32 | kevlarman | chao: it's still there |
| 19:04.40 | plln | chao: du -h |
| 19:04.40 | kevlarman | up until all programs that had it open exit |
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| 19:05.21 | kevlarman | (in other words, you need to log out of X to make it go away) |
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| 19:05.32 | plln | karlpinc: can i change timeout variable dynamically ? |
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| 19:05.52 | karlpinc | plln: Sure. It's just another env var. |
| 19:06.08 | plln | for example |
| 19:06.27 | plln | my current timeout is 0 |
| 19:06.29 | karlpinc | plln: If that's what timing you out. There could be another way to do it I'm not familiar with. |
| 19:06.32 | chao | kevlarman: Ah ok |
| 19:06.35 | chao | Thanks for the tip |
| 19:06.36 | plln | if i set it in now to 500 sec |
| 19:06.37 | chao | I restart then |
| 19:06.50 | chao | Just upgraded my kernel anyway |
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| 19:06.58 | plln | system will kick my ass after 500 sec right ? |
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| 19:07.12 | qdb | do debian 1st cd and live cd install programs like in in live cd mode? |
| 19:07.16 | plln | or system will check environ next logon |
| 19:07.17 | karlpinc | plln: TMOUT is in minutes. |
| 19:07.26 | plln | that was example :) |
| 19:07.34 | karlpinc | plln: So after 500 minutes of inactivity you'd be out. |
| 19:07.34 | plln | TMOUT 5 |
| 19:07.46 | plln | if i set tmout 5 |
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| 19:07.53 | karlpinc | plln: _That's_ 300 sec. ;-) |
| 19:07.57 | plln | then system will kick my ass after 5 sec right |
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| 19:08.04 | plln | 5 min |
| 19:08.06 | plln | right |
| 19:08.10 | karlpinc | plln: right |
| 19:08.18 | plln | ok i will try |
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| 19:08.39 | karlpinc | plln: Trying is often the best way to confirm understanding. |
| 19:09.23 | plln | export TMOUT=300 |
| 19:09.27 | plln | export TMOUT=60 |
| 19:09.32 | plln | after 60 sec |
| 19:09.37 | plln | system will gonna kick my ass |
| 19:09.44 | karlpinc | plln: No. TMOUT is in minutes. |
| 19:10.01 | karlpinc | export TMOUT=1 Then you're off in 60 seconds. |
| 19:10.43 | plln | no dude |
| 19:10.46 | plln | its second |
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| 19:10.49 | plln | :D |
| 19:10.52 | plln | i just tried |
| 19:11.02 | karlpinc | plln: Ok. I'm wrong. |
| 19:11.20 | plln | thank you this is what i need :D |
| 19:11.42 | eyepop | :leave |
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| 19:12.04 | plln | its not persistent |
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| 19:12.21 | plln | after login you must type command again |
| 19:12.26 | karlpinc | plln: No. "man bash" See the part about ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile. |
| 19:12.52 | karlpinc | plln: (no, it's not persistent) |
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| 19:16.01 | wodim | where are php sessions stored? |
| 19:16.07 | wodim | (hi) |
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| 19:16.31 | bzed | in /var/cache/php5 or /var/run/php5 … somthing like that wodim |
| 19:16.35 | wodim | thanks. |
| 19:16.42 | bzed | wodim: look in your php config, the path is mntioned in there |
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| 19:16.50 | wodim | ah |
| 19:16.58 | wodim | well i have like 4 different php.inis |
| 19:17.00 | gnarface | uh, pretty sure they're in /tmp by default, wodim, bzed |
| 19:17.01 | wodim | i don't know what's it |
| 19:17.48 | gnarface | wodim: one for each method of running php |
| 19:17.51 | wodim | ;session.save_path = "/tmp" |
| 19:17.54 | wodim | uh, it's commented. |
| 19:18.01 | gnarface | wodim: that's cause its the default |
| 19:18.15 | wodim | oook. |
| 19:18.44 | gnarface | wodim: make sure you change the right one - if you don't know then its probably a good idea to change all of them |
| 19:18.49 | gnarface | wodim: and restart your webserver |
| 19:19.24 | wodim | my problem is that phpmyadmin was complaining about not being able to store sessions |
| 19:19.36 | wodim | because i messed with some permissions |
| 19:19.38 | wodim | but now it's ok |
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| 19:22.46 | ozn_ | hi everyone, can someone please look at: http://paste.debian.net/159754/ and tell me why i can't read the file ? despite me being in the right group??? |
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| 19:23.30 | kevlarman | ozux: i don't see you being in the right group |
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| 19:23.48 | kevlarman | err, there it is |
| 19:24.05 | dvs | kevlarman: What'd you say!?! |
| 19:24.45 | jelly-home | ozn_: a) remember to log off and back on, to make the newly added group active; b) you need to have at least +x permissions on the /etc/ssmtp directory, as well |
| 19:25.05 | wodim | revolving |
| 19:25.07 | kevlarman | jelly-home: if he can ls it, it's +x |
| 19:25.21 | jelly-home | kevlarman: ls is done as root. |
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| 19:25.36 | kevlarman | ah, did not notice that |
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| 19:26.22 | jelly-home | that's two things you missed. Perhaps a nice nap or a walk away from the computer might be in order? |
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| 19:26.34 | ozn__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.37 | DammitJim | man, I love remote installing debian :) |
| 19:26.45 | jelly-home | ozn__: a) remember to log off and back on, to make the newly added group active; b) you need to have at least +x permissions on the /etc/ssmtp directory, as well |
| 19:26.49 | ozn__ | DammitJim, what's your method? |
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| 19:27.07 | DammitJim | boot the host and do an advanced install |
| 19:27.16 | kevlarman | ozn__: c) try to be a little less persistent about leaving the channel right before someone answers |
| 19:27.17 | DammitJim | select the SSH package to install remotely |
| 19:27.22 | DammitJim | then ssh into the host from another machine :) |
| 19:27.26 | ozn__ | jelly, do I have to really log of from all my open sessions? |
| 19:27.43 | ozn__ | kevlarman, sorry i close my xchat tab |
| 19:27.47 | jelly-home | ozn__: no, any new session will have updated groups |
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| 19:28.23 | ozn__ | jelly-home, i did new sessions in gnome-terminal but still i cant read the file |
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| 19:28.33 | ozn__ | DammitJim, you know about FAI? |
| 19:28.40 | KaKila | hi. Trying to add a folder to PATH user-wide. Which file should I use? ~/.profile or is there any other recommended? |
| 19:28.49 | jelly-home | ozn__: that's not a new login session. If you're using X, log out of X and log back in again |
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| 19:29.24 | DammitJim | ozn__, no, I don't |
| 19:29.25 | DammitJim | what is that? |
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| 19:29.46 | ozn__ | Man, i wish i will see your face when you will learn FAI :-) |
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| 19:29.53 | ozn__ | Fully automatic install |
| 19:29.59 | gnarface | hey guys lets say i need to benchmark https but ab won't tolerate my bogus ssl key. what should i use instead? |
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| 19:30.02 | ozn__ | kind of like Kickstart in redhat, but better |
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| 19:30.24 | ozn__ | DammitJim, http://fai-project.org/ |
| 19:30.36 | ozn__ | take a look, would be happy to hear your response |
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| 19:31.00 | ozn__ | jelly-home, thanks you are right, i logged in the tty, now i can read the file |
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| 19:31.04 | DammitJim | ozn__, it looks very nice, but I like the debian installer the way it is |
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| 19:31.12 | DammitJim | for me it's not about the destination, but about the journey |
| 19:31.22 | JordiGH | How can I set a user's path, shell-independently? |
| 19:32.00 | ozn__ | DammitJim, well, i install about 10 computers a month :-) and they need to be identical, so i need a fast way... usually i work with Kickstart |
| 19:32.19 | ozn__ | because at work i can't choose ... we have RHEL and Centos |
| 19:32.33 | DammitJim | sorry, ozn__ I didn't ask you why you use FAI :D |
| 19:32.33 | dtcrshr | anyone successful installing jahshaka on debian? |
| 19:32.52 | DammitJim | man, there is something wrong with me... that wasn't nice of me to say that |
| 19:32.57 | DammitJim | ozn__, thanks for sharing what you use |
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| 19:33.30 | ozn__ | DammitJim, i would choose debian... but hey i am not the boss :-P |
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| 19:33.55 | ozn__ | anyway... i was spending to much time on the computer ... i am off... |
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| 19:34.06 | ozn__ | thanks for the replies |
| 19:34.51 | carandraug | Hi! I'm trying to set a environment variable in pam_environment. However, I'd like to create a new one that is an expanded version of another. For example, I have TESTENV=something${SHELL} in there. However, even after I log out and in again, $SHELL is not expanded. Anyone knows how to do that? man pam_env.conf says that {} should do the trick |
| 19:34.54 | pif | hi, how do I configure the X11 keymap ? |
| 19:35.05 | pif | er, select my keyboard |
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| 19:35.33 | pif | what package should I 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow' for that ? |
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| 19:36.32 | carandraug | pif, using GNOME? system > administration >keyboard |
| 19:36.44 | pif | I'm not in gnome yet |
| 19:39.02 | nkuttler | !keymap |
| 19:39.02 | dpkg | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your console and X keymap. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
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| 19:40.41 | nkuttler | !keymap is also setxkbmap |
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| 19:40.42 | dpkg | nkuttler: okay |
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| 19:43.06 | jelly-home | carandraug: huh, does Debian not use /etc/environment instead? |
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| 19:45.08 | carandraug | jelly-home, for system wide yes. This is for a single user. Debian uses ~/.pam_environment, which works fine for "normal" envs. But in this case I'm trying to make a new one that is a mix of another |
| 19:45.46 | jelly-home | carandraug: I'm not sure SHELL even exists at pam evaluation time |
| 19:46.47 | carandraug | jelly-home, ok, so what exists so I can test it? |
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| 19:47.18 | jelly-home | carandraug: uh, no idea. VAR1=foo \n VAR2=test${VAR1} |
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| 19:47.59 | carandraug | jelly-home, tried that before. Failed as well in the same way. That's why I'm testing with ${SHELL}, I was hoping that is more basic than the other ones I have in pam_environment |
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| 19:51.36 | pif | nkuttler: thanks! |
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| 19:58.25 | scientes | whois -lindi |
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| 20:01.39 | jodeba | Hi. I just got a new Thinkpad L520. Before that I used an old R61. I have been running debian squeeze on the R61, and I thought I could skip the hazzle of installing squeeze on the L510 by swapping the old disk in the R61 into the the new L520. Before the swap I installed the latest kernel from backports and the latest xorg-server and drivers. All seems to work great expect that LVDS only has the backlight on but no graphics what so ever. |
| 20:01.39 | jodeba | Does any of you have any experience with this? |
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| 20:03.13 | nkuttler | jodeba: check your xorg log |
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| 20:05.06 | jodeba | By the way the screen works correctly when showing grub, and 2.6.32 also boots fine except that only VESA is available. |
| 20:05.17 | jodeba | nkuttler, I will look at it. |
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| 20:17.31 | gnarface | so, nobody has any tips on benchmarking https? |
| 20:18.26 | gnarface | ab would work in theory, but it doesn't seem to have a flag to ignore the fact my certificate is bogus |
| 20:19.06 | syslq | gnarface: ab :) |
| 20:19.24 | gnarface | syslq: it just barfs on my forged cert |
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| 20:20.47 | GNU\colossus | gnarface, _you_ control your machine's and TLS stack's trust store. you can tell whatever library ab link against to implement TLS to trust your "forged" cert/CA. |
| 20:20.56 | GNU\colossus | ab links against* |
| 20:21.03 | gnarface | noted |
| 20:21.08 | gnarface | i guess that's what i'll have to do |
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| 20:21.41 | syslq | gnarface: iperf? |
| 20:21.52 | syslq | gnarface: dunno I mean, it's form the top of my head now |
| 20:21.55 | gnarface | hmm. checking iperf |
| 20:21.56 | GNU\colossus | iperf doesn't do HTTP. only TCP. |
| 20:22.01 | gnarface | oh |
| 20:22.07 | GNU\colossus | it has its own application layer protocol |
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| 20:22.30 | robokop | jodeba: does this thinkpad have sandybridge? |
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| 20:22.47 | jodeba | yes it does. |
| 20:23.01 | robokop | jodeba: what kernel do you use? |
| 20:23.17 | robokop | jodeba: sandybridge needs 2.6.37+ |
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| 20:23.25 | jodeba | atm it is 3.2 from backports |
| 20:23.47 | GNU\colossus | speaking of Debian backports kernels, do you happen to know why they don't have INTEL_IDLE enabled? |
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| 20:24.33 | robokop | jodeba: do you also run the intel video drivers from backports? |
| 20:24.38 | jodeba | By the way the vga output works just fine. |
| 20:25.38 | jodeba | robokop, yes I think so. |
| 20:25.56 | robokop | jodeba: ow, then i don't know, forget i said something |
| 20:25.59 | jodeba | xserver-xorg-video-intel: |
| 20:25.59 | jodeba | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:26.35 | jodeba | robokop, thats a shame. But thanks anyway. |
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| 20:38.12 | scwizard | This doesn't make any sense. When I log in as user A and run: logwatch --service play --range 5m --mailto exception@mydomain.com everything works fine. |
| 20:38.40 | scwizard | When I get cron to run it though things break. |
| 20:38.52 | thewanderer1 | scwizard, PATH? |
| 20:39.03 | scwizard | thewanderer1, it's wierder than that, check this out... |
| 20:39.26 | scwizard | syslog says: CRON[31205]: (userA) CMD (logwatch --service play --range 5m --mailto exception@mydomain.com) |
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| 20:39.29 | scwizard | which is what I want of course |
| 20:39.30 | scwizard | then... |
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| 20:41.23 | scwizard | Mar 14 16:35:03 ubuntu-play msmtp: host=server_email.mydomain.com tls=on auth=on user=someguy from=servername@mydomain.com recipients=mydomain mtpmsg='550 5.1.1 <mydomain>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table' |
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| 20:41.53 | scwizard | somehow when cron runs this command, the first half of the email address gets stripped from the recepients????????/ |
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| 20:43.18 | thewanderer1 | just what is "ubuntu-play"? |
| 20:43.25 | scwizard | the name of the server |
| 20:43.29 | scwizard | that the script is runnign on |
| 20:43.41 | thewanderer1 | you're not sneaking Ubuntu questions into #debian, are you? :P |
| 20:43.53 | scwizard | u_u |
| 20:44.04 | scwizard | I'm trying to switch I really am |
| 20:44.52 | thewanderer1 | anyway, check in sh (not bash) if it really works when run from the command line |
| 20:45.08 | scwizard | thewanderer1, hmm, that's sound advice |
| 20:46.00 | scwizard | also everything's going to be on debian (except for a few openbsd) after we migrate nonsense from running on vmware on windows server, to either xen machines or aws or something |
| 20:46.12 | scwizard | so I'm allowed to ask questions here right >_> |
| 20:47.15 | scwizard | also your guess about sh was in the money |
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| 20:47.45 | thewanderer1 | "in the money"? |
| 20:47.54 | redhead88 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:48.24 | scwizard | thewanderer1, when run with shell, I get the incorrect behavior |
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| 20:48.37 | scwizard | why would a perl script do different things depending on if it's run from bash or from sh? |
| 20:48.44 | scwizard | s/with shell/with sh/ |
| 20:48.55 | thewanderer1 | aha... I'm not sure how it interacts with @, here a random command seems normal |
| 20:49.24 | scwizard | ahh I see |
| 20:49.36 | thewanderer1 | if the program invokes external commands, it surely does it via some shell - maybe the incompatibility is there |
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| 20:50.08 | thewanderer1 | like it calls bash (from $SHELL) when run from bash only and does some data processing in the externally-spawned command |
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| 20:52.26 | scwizard | I was just about to ask why single quoting my arguments didn't fix the problem, but you seem to have explained it |
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| 20:56.40 | scwizard | so: bash -c 'logwatch --service play --range 5m --mailto exception@officegps.com' |
| 20:56.50 | scwizard | doesn't seem to do anything |
| 20:58.50 | scwizard | oh wait nm |
| 20:59.29 | plln | i want to mount a harddrive |
| 20:59.36 | plln | to /opt directory |
| 20:59.51 | plln | but current /opt directory using by system |
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| 21:00.39 | plln | current disk status /dev/hda |
| 21:00.48 | plln | another disk /dev/sdb |
| 21:01.01 | plln | i want to mount /opt to /dev/sdb |
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| 21:02.38 | scwizard | plln: modify your fstab then reboot? |
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| 21:03.04 | catiski | hello |
| 21:03.08 | plln | the old /opt directory has a few files |
| 21:03.17 | catiski | are you have linuxmint debian edition channel |
| 21:03.17 | plln | if i change from fstab |
| 21:03.17 | Mr_Queue | no need to reboot |
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| 21:03.27 | scwizard | what do you intend to do with those files plln? |
| 21:03.30 | plln | it will be system fault |
| 21:03.32 | plln | or not ? |
| 21:04.04 | plln | a few my installed application they can remoable |
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| 21:04.22 | plln | but a few binary file probably 3rd party application files |
| 21:04.33 | plln | if i change on fstab |
| 21:04.39 | plln | and system gone crash |
| 21:04.47 | plln | how can i restore the old one ? |
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| 21:07.30 | catiski | are you know linuxmint debian edition channel? |
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| 21:08.57 | ompaul | !mint |
| 21:08.57 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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| 21:10.10 | catiski | hmm |
| 21:10.19 | catiski | linux mint is a debian? |
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| 21:10.27 | catiski | >) |
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| 21:10.44 | ompaul | catiski: no |
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| 21:10.52 | catiski | oh ok |
| 21:11.01 | catiski | debian is linux mint right? |
| 21:11.13 | threadlock | no, read what dpkg said |
| 21:11.14 | catiski | just kidding mean |
| 21:11.19 | threadlock | :D |
| 21:12.50 | plln | thankyou scwizard & Mr_Queue |
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| 21:13.52 | plln | i am really gonna love debian |
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| 21:14.22 | catiski | me too |
| 21:14.32 | catiski | 353 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 71 not upgraded. |
| 21:14.36 | catiski | i hate waiting |
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| 21:16.32 | plln | have a jood day |
| 21:16.50 | catiski | its a jood day to die |
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| 21:17.07 | dvs | !lart catiski |
| 21:17.07 | dpkg | frags catiski with his BFG9000 |
| 21:17.41 | catiski | what is that |
| 21:18.23 | dvs | now feels old |
| 21:18.29 | dvs | !bfg9000 |
| 21:18.29 | dpkg | rumour has it, bfg9000 is the subspace weapon introduced in doom |
| 21:19.05 | Graveworm80 | Hi :)! Is there a way to set irq for devices on my own? I'm running a 3.2.0-2-686-pae distribution kernel with a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE and the NVIDIA propritary driver version 295.20. The NV card an one of my usb-slots are using IRQ 16. Every now and then (really often in the last two days) my system freeze. All I can do is ssh to my machine and reboot it. Syslog says something about " irq 16: nobody cared (try booting with the " |
| 21:19.05 | Graveworm80 | irqpoll" option)" and a lot of "NVRM: os_pci_init_handle: invalid context!". Allready tried to boot with "irqpoll" and "acpi=debug" kernel options (found with google). I need some hints what else could I do? |
| 21:19.11 | catiski | its a gift? oh thanks dpkg |
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| 21:19.57 | gnarface | remember when there *weren't* video games? |
| 21:20.00 | gnarface | i do |
| 21:20.02 | gnarface | sighs |
| 21:20.07 | dvs | nope |
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| 21:23.32 | nyingen | the existence of the LART command pleases me greatly |
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| 21:26.11 | scwizard | thewanderer1, it turns out that a time of day bug in my script was tripping me up. The command works fine when run from sh |
| 21:26.23 | scwizard | but it still doesn't work from cron |
| 21:26.41 | thewanderer1 | does it work in cron if you set PATH correctly? |
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| 21:27.16 | scwizard | I don't see how the PATH being set wrong would lead to the to address being screwed up |
| 21:28.00 | scwizard | but I guess I'll reset it somehwere along the chain? |
| 21:28.40 | thewanderer1 | I don't either, but it's usually the only difference from the usual execution environment AFAIK |
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| 21:29.24 | scwizard | how would I nip this nonsense in the bud and get cron's path set to "the usual execution enviroment"? |
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| 21:32.12 | scwizard | what would even possess cron to set the path to /usr/bin:/bin anyway *sigh* |
| 21:32.26 | scwizard | well google should know this |
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| 21:34.11 | indigo | scwizard: the answer is in crontab(5) |
| 21:34.31 | scwizard | yeah I learned from google :P |
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| 21:37.35 | scwizard | /usr/bin:/bin is a stupid default though |
| 21:37.36 | scwizard | just saying |
| 21:39.21 | nkuttler | scwizard: how so |
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| 21:39.44 | scwizard | it means rather than just working, the user needs to figure out that they need to change the path |
| 21:39.52 | repubi-can | :) |
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| 21:40.13 | scwizard | because there's a lot of programs that won't work with sbin in the path (understandably) |
| 21:40.18 | nkuttler | users shouldn't really need sbin |
| 21:40.19 | scwizard | *without |
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| 21:41.49 | scwizard | nkuttler, ok sure you could make a silly argument for that |
| 21:41.54 | scwizard | but what about /usr/local/bin? |
| 21:42.05 | ay_yiyyi | hey gents what do you use for large file servers |
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| 21:42.12 | karlpinc | scwizard: For that you could file a bug report. |
| 21:42.20 | nkuttler | scwizard: that's empty by default. if you put stuff there fix your PATH |
| 21:42.25 | ay_yiyyi | to ensure reliability and also to do backups? |
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| 21:42.34 | nkuttler | and yeah, wishlist bug.. |
| 21:42.36 | scwizard | well |
| 21:42.49 | scwizard | the real bug here, is that there's 50 different default PATHs in 50 different places |
| 21:42.56 | nkuttler | has a dynamic PATH that's set up by his shellrc |
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| 21:43.01 | karlpinc | scwizard: The guy maintaining cron is resposive. |
| 21:43.08 | nkuttler | scwizard: is there? example? |
| 21:43.20 | karlpinc | scwizard: Yes-ish. But standard is better than better. |
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| 21:43.49 | scwizard | path is set in /etc/login.defaults, in /etc/profile, in sudoers, and in various crontabs |
| 21:44.01 | scwizard | and those are just the places I have experiance changing it... |
| 21:44.02 | karlpinc | s/resposive/responsive/ |
| 21:44.09 | karlpinc | scwizard: and in pam |
| 21:44.18 | scwizard | as I said and those are just the places I have experiance changing it |
| 21:44.37 | nkuttler | scwizard: you change PATHs for users? |
| 21:45.05 | bana_don | oh yeah |
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| 21:45.20 | bana_don | gobolinux is interesting in that it has 1 path for all binaries |
| 21:45.25 | karlpinc | scwizard: But it's also an environment variable, ment to vary. You'd have to come up with a clever way to keep the "standard" somewhere and still let people do what they want. |
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| 21:45.54 | nkuttler | my PATH is set up dynamically on every login |
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| 21:46.27 | karlpinc | nkuttler: Yes, but all the daemons have their own defaults. Mostly rightly so, I think. |
| 21:46.29 | scwizard | karlpinc, yeah, that's what would be nice. However do that would require a bunch of cordination, and there might even be some security nonsense to worry about |
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| 21:46.46 | nkuttler | karlpinc: oh you don't want daemons to check random non-system paths.. |
| 21:46.56 | scwizard | so that's why it's the way it is |
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| 21:47.12 | bana_don | demons!! |
| 21:47.15 | bana_don | devils!! |
| 21:47.28 | gnarface | no, daemons |
| 21:47.37 | karlpinc | scwizard: Yeah. Cron is another daemon. But, it wouldn't hurt to have /usr/local/bin in there. It's recently gotten into the default path, iirc. |
| 21:47.59 | nkuttler | karlpinc: that sounds like a very bad idea |
| 21:48.12 | nkuttler | i mean, you should use absolute paths in your crontab anyway... |
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| 21:48.34 | scwizard | karlpinc, what is the "default path"??? |
| 21:48.54 | scwizard | as in where is it stored? if there exists such a thing? |
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| 21:49.19 | karlpinc | nkuttler: But the stuff run _by_ the crontab might want /usr/local/bin to replace one of the system binaries. That's why /usr/local/bin comes first in an interactive path. |
| 21:49.49 | nkuttler | karlpinc: well man 5 crontab |
| 21:49.51 | bana_don | liek cacodaemon? |
| 21:50.00 | scwizard | "you should use absolute paths in your crontab anyway..." <- irrelevant, the programs called by the program in your crontab might not use absolute paths |
| 21:50.08 | bana_don | doh |
| 21:50.11 | karlpinc | scwizard: Probably /etc/login.defs. Dunno. |
| 21:50.21 | bana_don | I reccomend tcl for most shelly task |
| 21:50.33 | bana_don | the event loop baby |
| 21:50.40 | bana_don | event driven programming |
| 21:50.41 | nkuttler | scwizard: sounds like stuff i wouldn't want to run |
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| 21:50.43 | karlpinc | scwizard: Well then "man login.defs" to you. ;-) That's where /usr/local/bin was added, after not being there. |
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| 21:51.31 | karlpinc | nkuttler: Well then, don't put it in /usr/local/bin/ ;-) |
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| 21:51.59 | nkuttler | i wouldn't want to add /usr/local/ to the cron paths either. that's +rw by staff by default and probably more on quite some hosts |
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| 21:52.14 | nkuttler | karlpinc: mine's empty |
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| 21:52.53 | karlpinc | nkuttler: It's for customzing the system, without having to package. The point is to replace the standard binaries. |
| 21:52.55 | nkuttler | i have a few scripts running from cron that need binaries in non-default locations. guess what, hardcoded paths |
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| 21:53.37 | nkuttler | karlpinc: hm, don't you know how to recompile a package? |
| 21:54.08 | karlpinc | nkuttler: Sure. But I don't often bother to package my own stuff, the stuff I write for local consumption. |
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| 21:54.22 | bana_don | anyone here switch to debian from redhat? |
| 21:54.27 | zeleboba1 | hello,who can help me with php on debian server |
| 21:54.34 | foxhacker | i switched |
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| 21:54.45 | zeleboba1 | Hello can u help me ??? i use script index.php , but server log to said some errors : Use of undefined constant . Php is defalut settings by a Debian Server Linux |
| 21:54.53 | scwizard | karlpinc, what would you think if pam, cron and sudo all used the value in /etc/login.defs for their default path? |
| 21:54.54 | karlpinc | bana_don: That's either a subject for #debian-offtopic, as is our current conversation, or you need to ask something specific. |
| 21:55.03 | karlpinc | scwizard: #debian-offtopic? |
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| 21:55.13 | nkuttler | zeleboba1: that sounds like a php question. ##php for php support |
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| 21:55.28 | scwizard | karlpinc, how? I'm talking about a hypotehtical change to debian? |
| 21:55.33 | gnarface | bana_don: i switched from slackware to redhat to gentoo to debian, does that count? |
| 21:55.34 | bana_don | is aolserver using os threads faster than nginx using epoll on debian? |
| 21:55.45 | bana_don | now how did u feel once got to debian? |
| 21:55.55 | karlpinc | scwizard: But this channel is for debian support, helping people with specific problems. |
| 21:55.58 | gnarface | bana_don: enlightened |
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| 21:56.23 | bana_don | now try archlinux and get the feeling again |
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| 21:56.29 | gnarface | bah |
| 21:56.43 | scwizard | karlpinc, so #debian-next for proposed changes to debian? |
| 21:56.45 | bana_don | my problem is I want to make money from open source startup but cant decide about using haskell or simply using psotgresql and aolserver and tcl |
| 21:56.47 | gnarface | debian is higher up the food chain |
| 21:56.55 | bana_don | well more users perhaps |
| 21:56.58 | foxhacker | can you go back to stable after going to test wheezy? |
| 21:56.58 | bana_don | but teknically |
| 21:57.01 | bana_don | arch ahead |
| 21:57.06 | nkuttler | foxhacker: no |
| 21:57.18 | foxhacker | gah that means reinstall |
| 21:57.20 | bana_don | Im highly teknical |
| 21:57.21 | karlpinc | scwizard: That's on irc.debian.org and is specific questions on the next release of debian. |
| 21:57.33 | bana_don | a wizard u could say |
| 21:57.37 | nkuttler | foxhacker: well... you can wait until wheezy becomes stable. that's a bit like stable |
| 21:58.22 | scwizard | I'm pretty sure people are allowed to talk about potential changes to debian in #debian |
| 21:58.23 | scwizard | :/ |
| 21:58.33 | gnarface | bana_don: ok wizard, how do i benchmark https if ab sucks too much at it? |
| 21:58.50 | scwizard | and general debian related stuff that's not asking for help |
| 21:58.53 | nkuttler | scwizard: #debian is for support |
| 21:58.53 | scwizard | I see a often |
| 21:59.03 | scwizard | the topic doesn't say that |
| 21:59.04 | bana_don | mmm |
| 21:59.08 | bana_don | fork bomb wget? |
| 21:59.15 | bana_don | lol |
| 21:59.21 | gnarface | bana_don: you're no wizard, you're just another nerd in a pointy hat |
| 21:59.24 | bana_don | well there are otehr tools |
| 21:59.30 | bana_don | but the main stat is not static |
| 21:59.35 | gnarface | can get his own pointy hat |
| 21:59.37 | bana_don | but dynamic pages generated |
| 21:59.45 | karlpinc | bana_don: If you want advice from a stranger, haskell. See paul graham's essays on lisp. |
| 21:59.54 | bana_don | gnarface: you are unenlightened |
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| 22:00.05 | gnarface | bana_don: yea but i gots me a pointy hat :) |
| 22:00.10 | guardian | hmm is it "normal" that www-data user isn't part of www-data group? |
| 22:00.23 | bana_don | karlpinc: you know hunchentoot is threaded with bordeacux threads and cl-weblocks and restas seems nice along with core cserver |
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| 22:00.34 | gnarface | guardian: its not?! |
| 22:00.36 | scwizard | guardian, no that's strange |
| 22:00.37 | bana_don | I wear a shourd since I am sinister |
| 22:01.08 | guardian | well i'm having www-data:x:33: |
| 22:01.11 | guardian | in my /etc/group |
| 22:01.13 | gnarface | guardian: maybe you're just confused because you don't see it in /etc/group? you're automatically in the group of your own name |
| 22:01.26 | guardian | ah yeah ok |
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| 22:02.35 | guardian | well gnarface, in fact i'm having problems with nginx not being able to access /var/www which is owned by root:www-data with proper +x and +r permissions for group. until I edit /etc/group and add www-data to it's own group |
| 22:02.37 | guardian | isn't that strange? |
| 22:03.35 | bana_don | cherokee seems ahead fo nginx |
| 22:03.48 | bana_don | it got ulti cpu support b4 nginx |
| 22:03.55 | bana_don | cherokee project cool gui too |
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| 22:05.08 | gnarface | guardian: yea... that's pretty strange, and i can't recreate it |
| 22:05.23 | gnarface | guardian: you're on squeeze, all stock components? |
| 22:05.36 | guardian | yep, nginx from backports |
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| 22:06.05 | gnarface | guardian: you're sure you're actually starting nginx as www-data:www-data right? |
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| 22:06.13 | gnarface | guardian: ps confirms it? |
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| 22:06.30 | guardian | how can i confirm it with ps? |
| 22:06.33 | gnarface | wonders if you're starting nginx as www-data:nobody |
| 22:06.39 | guardian | ps aux shows the user, not the group |
| 22:07.05 | gnarface | guardian: hmm. what's the config file say? |
| 22:07.14 | guardian | which config file? |
| 22:07.19 | gnarface | nginx |
| 22:07.26 | guardian | ah no my bad the config file says "www-data adm" |
| 22:07.29 | guardian | so that's it |
| 22:07.30 | gnarface | bingo |
| 22:07.40 | guardian | still, it's weird that |
| 22:07.46 | gnarface | agreed |
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| 22:07.52 | guardian | if i add www-data to www-data group in /etc/group then restart nginx |
| 22:07.53 | guardian | it works |
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| 22:08.12 | guardian | but i was on the same path as your analysis since doing chmod o+x on /var/www solved the problem as well |
| 22:08.17 | gnarface | well somehow nginx's config must start it as root then drop permissions to whatever you specify, probably omitting normal group membership |
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| 22:08.46 | guardian | yeah nginx's master process starts as root |
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| 22:08.51 | gnarface | guardian: aka its probably considered a security feature, not a bug |
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| 22:08.56 | guardian | then spawns a worker process |
| 22:09.18 | guardian | should i run nginx as www-data www-data; or www-data adm;? |
| 22:09.22 | guardian | not sure which to choose |
| 22:09.47 | gnarface | www-data www-data, for sure |
| 22:09.54 | guardian | allright |
| 22:10.02 | guardian | don't know why i put adm, i can't recall it |
| 22:10.11 | gnarface | well you'd want your log files readable by adm |
| 22:10.17 | guardian | and config file from debian just says "user www-data" without specifying the group |
| 22:10.52 | gnarface | if there's an option separately in fact you'd want to make sure its making group ownership of the log files adm, if its possible |
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| 22:11.03 | gnarface | unfortunately i'm not familiar with nginx |
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| 22:11.52 | gnarface | guardian: quality of default config files is a factor of the contributors more than debian |
| 22:12.07 | gnarface | guardian: the default apache2 configs these days are *amazing* |
| 22:12.18 | gnarface | guardian: lighttpd contrastingly blows |
| 22:12.49 | guardian | while i'm at it |
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| 22:13.00 | guardian | is it a security all to expose phpinfo and apc.php stats info? |
| 22:13.22 | guardian | it's at domain.com/phpinfo or /apc, should i at least protect that with a basic auth? |
| 22:13.23 | gnarface | last i heard phpinfo() itself is a massive security hole. don't expose it outside your lan |
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| 22:14.28 | gnarface | if your php config is properly setup (statically config a default timezone) you can mitigate some of the historic issues with phpinfo() but i wouldn't trust it still. can't tell you anything about apc unfortunately |
| 22:14.43 | guardian | ok |
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| 22:14.47 | guardian | that settles it |
| 22:14.50 | guardian | i'll just remove those :) |
| 22:14.55 | gnarface | a good plan |
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| 22:15.54 | gnarface | guardian: what i usually do is just run them on a separate virtualhost, one that's not accessible outside the local machine |
| 22:16.30 | gnarface | guardian: then you can just access them over ssh with lynx (or through iceweasel with X forwarding if you've got a lot of bandwidth to burn) |
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| 22:16.53 | guardian | still, i'm in the context of shared hosting and i'll let users use adminer |
| 22:17.01 | guardian | at least it scares me less than phpmyadmin |
| 22:17.08 | lapsusbrutus | "Fatal Error, no screens found" /var/log/Xorg.0.log sais. anything more than xorg needed for a working xserver and client? |
| 22:17.15 | gnarface | shudders at the thought of phpmyadmin |
| 22:17.47 | gnarface | lapsusbrutus: yep, the right video card driver for your hardware and (often) a partial or full xorg.conf |
| 22:18.33 | bana_don | aolserver for the wins |
| 22:18.41 | gnarface | bana_don: stop trolling |
| 22:19.04 | lapsusbrutus | gnarface: installed nvidia correctly I believe.. hmm xorg.conf then probably |
| 22:19.06 | gnarface | bana_don: sorry nevermind, its a debian package. continue |
| 22:19.33 | bana_don | draws his lightsabre |
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| 22:20.15 | gnarface | lapsusbrutus: yea that's a common issue. you may only need to specify the 'nvidia' driver itself so it doesn't pick one of the others erroneously |
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| 22:21.24 | gnarface | lapsusbrutus: i'm pedantic so i use a whole xorg.conf but i'm told this level of control-freak OCDism isn't really necessary anymore. that said, the nvidia binary drivers should come with a tool to generate you a working xorg.conf |
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| 22:23.14 | gnarface | lapsusbrutus: i'll pastebin mine here just for educational purposes: http://paste.debian.net/159780/ |
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| 22:24.56 | gnarface | lapsusbrutus: the video card section label is inaccurate, this config is now working identically with a later-model card (GeForce GTX 560 Ti) |
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| 22:46.52 | lapsusbrutus | gnarface: hmm where did my xorg.conf go.. Ive got /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d but this is new tech to me .p |
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| 22:47.55 | zeleboba1 | brokenstones.me |
| 22:48.18 | gnarface | lapsusbrutus: there *isn't* one by default anymore. insulting, isn't it? |
| 22:48.29 | lapsusbrutus | gnarface: yeah :p |
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| 22:49.47 | lapsusbrutus | gnarface: hmm how to generate one.. or do I have to lynx my way through the web to find one and modify it? Not good at writing these files from scratch |
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| 22:50.30 | gnarface | lapsusbrutus: the nvidia binary drivers should have given you a way to generate one. "X -configure" or some such thing may work too. i've just been editing that one for years so i forget |
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| 22:51.45 | lapsusbrutus | gnarface: Thanks a lot :) |
| 22:52.07 | lapsusbrutus | nvidia-support package it seems :) |
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| 22:53.28 | gnarface | lapsusbrutus: beware that if you have older CRT monitors and weird shit (digital projectors) you may still need to manually edit the config to get optimal resolutions/refresh rates, etc |
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| 22:53.51 | gnarface | lapsusbrutus: but whatever the nvidia tool generates should be at least a strong starting point |
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| 22:55.36 | Daniel70 | Hi all, I've just installed squeeze from DVD, now want to go testing |
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| 22:56.12 | Daniel70 | Do need to add security apt sources ? |
| 22:56.15 | gnarface | dpkg: tell Daniel70 about squeeze->wheezy |
| 22:56.36 | Josh33 | Hi ! Under GNOME 2.30, how can I change the window border color by |
| 22:56.36 | Josh33 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:57.50 | Daniel70 | dpkg: tell squeeze wheezy |
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| 23:01.08 | Daniel70 | dpkg hi |
| 23:01.08 | dpkg | hola |
| 23:01.25 | gnarface | Daniel70: psst. its a bot |
| 23:01.34 | Daniel70 | I know |
| 23:01.40 | gnarface | just making sure :) |
| 23:01.44 | Daniel70 | isn't it funny ? |
| 23:02.01 | gnarface | was that rhetorical ? |
| 23:02.20 | Daniel70 | im testing it :) |
| 23:02.35 | Daniel70 | dpkg upgrade testing |
| 23:02.36 | dpkg | Daniel70: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 23:03.16 | gnarface | Daniel70: you should msg it directly |
| 23:03.16 | Daniel70 | hehehe |
| 23:03.20 | Daniel70 | dpkg testing sources |
| 23:03.20 | dpkg | no idea, Daniel70 |
| 23:03.46 | Daniel70 | ok thanks gnarface |
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| 23:20.43 | datruth | Does a certificate need to be created before ssl-cert is installed? |
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| 23:21.12 | gnarface | datruth: i'm not sure why you think so or why its relevant, but i think ssl-cert comes with a dummy cert |
| 23:21.35 | gnarface | could be wrong but has never had the problem you seem to be having |
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| 23:22.53 | datruth | gnarface: i'm not able to install the things I want as it depends on ssl-cert and when installing ssl-cert is fails |
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| 23:23.58 | gnarface | datruth: huh. can you pastebin the output? |
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| 23:24.32 | datruth | gnarface: http://pastebin.com/wvxmmC7u |
| 23:25.26 | gnarface | ,versions ssl-cert |
| 23:25.27 | judd | Package: ssl-cert on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.23; sid: 1.0.28; squeeze: 1.0.28; wheezy: 1.0.28 |
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| 23:25.41 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 23:25.50 | gnarface | datruth: you're not on squeeze, are you? |
| 23:25.55 | lasers | [01:44:39] Message(471): #debian Cannot join channel (+l) - channel is full, try again later |
| 23:25.56 | lasers | o.O |
| 23:26.17 | datruth | gnarface: I think I am how can I confirm? |
| 23:26.27 | nsadmin | evidently you're sending |
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| 23:26.48 | gnarface | datruth: cat /etc/debian_version (but that doesn't tell us whether you've done horrible distro-mixing or anything) |
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| 23:27.33 | datruth | 6.0.4 |
| 23:27.50 | datruth | gnarface: I do not believe thare has been any distro mixing |
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| 23:28.24 | gnarface | datruth: here's the part that confuses me: it seems like it succeeded, even though it says it failed. does that snakeoil key exist? |
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| 23:29.07 | panosru | Hello I try to install a package which I need it and it fails to install.. you can check the output here: https://gist.github.com/dbdc81f54c380f457dce |
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| 23:29.53 | nsadmin | panosru, cat /etc/debian_version ; aptitude install pastebinit |
| 23:30.41 | panosru | nsadmin: and now what? :P |
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| 23:31.00 | panosru | nsadmin: https://gist.github.com/d98971794cd2d8005a7e <- this is what I got |
| 23:31.11 | datruth | gnarface: yes it does hrmmm |
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| 23:31.47 | gnarface | datruth: were you fully updated before you tried to install it? |
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| 23:32.21 | nsadmin | ok, cool... now, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit |
| 23:32.24 | datruth | yes I believe so |
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| 23:33.15 | nsadmin | I start make coffee... den I talk pretty someday... |
| 23:33.19 | panosru | nsadmin: ah pastebin has package, that's cool! :D here is the output: http://pastebin.com/1DvPzNwi (I have to mention that I used test sources some time ago.... ) |
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| 23:35.00 | nsadmin | yeah, I think the perl nopaste is also packaged now |
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| 23:35.49 | nsadmin | anyway, I see a coupla repos at the bottom, one says testing, that could explain why packages aren't installing |
| 23:35.56 | panosru | nsadmin: do you think is there a possibility to install libavahi-compat-libdnssd-dev package on my system? :/ |
| 23:36.31 | gnarface | datruth: might there have been a failed install earlier? maybe you could try to dpkg --purge it and then start over? |
| 23:36.45 | nsadmin | apt-cache policy libavahi-compat-libdnssd-dev | pastebinit |
| 23:36.53 | datruth | gnarface: hrmm how can I reinstall everything ? |
| 23:37.02 | nsadmin | panosru, do that while I start coffee |
| 23:37.13 | panosru | nsadmin: the one you see in the bottom is testing from rabbitmq |
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| 23:37.51 | gnarface | datruth: *everything* ?! just dpkg --purge ssl-cert |
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| 23:38.20 | nsadmin | yes, that;s why I'm not definite at the moment... ok, COFFEE... |
| 23:38.20 | gnarface | datruth: you don't want to uninstall "everything" really, do you? |
| 23:39.31 | datruth | gmarseliss: sure why not I have nothing installed really |
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| 23:40.57 | humitos | hello |
| 23:41.39 | humitos | I'm trying to compile sugar with jhbuild (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Jhbuild) but I can't find this package gdk-3.0 ; I'm running Debian Testing ; can you help me? |
| 23:42.02 | gnarface | datruth: well i've never done that and there is probably an easier way, but you could probably pipe the output of dpkg --get-selections to apt-get --reinstall with some bash and sed trickery |
| 23:42.54 | datruth | hrmm |
| 23:43.09 | datruth | is there no way to fix this? |
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| 23:43.34 | gnarface | datruth: well there's certainly many ways to fix it but the problem here is we don't yet actually know whats wrong |
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| 23:43.43 | gnarface | datruth: pastebin the output of dpkg -l for us |
| 23:44.56 | datruth | gnarface: sure http://pastebin.com/GgcEJXdk |
| 23:45.02 | nsadmin | , versions gdk-3.0 |
| 23:45.03 | judd | No package named 'gdk-3.0' was found in i386. |
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| 23:45.53 | humitos | nsadmin: judd so, what should I do? |
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| 23:46.30 | nsadmin | panosru, apt-cache policy libavahi-compat-libdnssd-dev | pastebinit |
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| 23:48.33 | gnarface | datruth: hmm. looks fine. i got nothing man :-/ hang out though because someone is likely to be able to help you here |
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| 23:48.53 | datruth | gnarface: cool thanks for trying |
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| 23:53.49 | luke-jr | I just finished a remote install of Debian 6… and realized I can't remove the CD :/ |
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| 23:54.07 | luke-jr | is it possible to boot without going on-site to do that? |
| 23:54.38 | karsten | luke-jr: What sort of CD drive is it? |
| 23:54.42 | luke-jr | karsten: no idea |
| 23:54.45 | dvs | luke-jr: ??? Then how did the CD get there in the first place/ |
| 23:54.53 | karsten | luke-jr: If it's a mini-drive, once you open it, it won't close. |
| 23:54.55 | luke-jr | dvs: someone put it in before going home |
| 23:55.02 | karsten | luke-jr: If it's a standard, you've got other issues. |
| 23:55.06 | karsten | luke-jr: Remote hands? |
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| 23:55.16 | luke-jr | so the Debian CD won't default to "boot from hard drive" or anything convenient like that? :D |
| 23:55.47 | karsten | luke-jr: I don't recall, though you can test this with a local machine or virtual machine. |
| 23:55.47 | dvs | luke-jr: I think that's more of a BIOS thing |
| 23:55.53 | karsten | luke-jr: Generally, boot order's set in BIOS. |
| 23:56.05 | karsten | dvs: It's possible for syslinux to be configured to boot HD by preference. |
| 23:56.09 | luke-jr | right, but I've seen some Linux CDs that pass off to HD by default |
| 23:56.30 | dvs | karsten: not that I know of |
| 23:56.32 | karsten | luke-jr: Do you have IPMI on the box? And is your serial-over-LAN or remote access configured? |
| 23:56.52 | karsten | dvs: It is that I know of. |
| 23:57.16 | dvs | \oh? |
| 23:57.20 | luke-jr | karsten: I don't think it's configured |
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| 23:57.57 | karsten | dvs: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/SYSLINUX#LOCALBOOT_type_.5BISOLINUX.2C_PXELINUX.5D |
| 23:58.29 | jhutchins_lt | luke-jr: It won't default to hard drive, but I don't think it will actually touch the disk without positive input, so it will take it off line but won't destroy it. |
| 23:58.39 | luke-jr | kvm -snapshot /dev/sda -vnc :0 -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d # demonstrates it won't |
| 23:58.54 | jhutchins_lt | luke-jr: I've never seen that as a default, only an option. |
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| 23:59.00 | karsten | luke-jr: This would appear to reduce your options to 1) get remote hands at your datacenter to remove the CD, 2) have the dufus who neglected to do this for your before to head back, 3) go there yourself, or 4) wait unti morning and elect 1-3. |
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| 23:59.48 | dvs | goes for the dufus option |
| 23:59.51 | jhutchins_lt | luke-jr: You have to manually alter the installer image to default to an unattended install. |