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| 00:00.14 | tupi | gnarface, well, i did a long time ago. let me ask again, any debian kernel experts channel ? |
| 00:00.18 | marchdown_ | Don't know a way to have python2.6 alongside 2.7 or 3.0 either. |
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| 00:01.10 | Dulak | You can install all 3 of those and call them as 'pythonN.N file.py' to run things in whichever version you need. |
| 00:01.20 | Dulak | Only one will be the default python though. |
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| 00:01.44 | gnarface | tupi: not as far as i know, but there IS a #debian-next on otfc.net, as i said, for testing/unstable specific issues. you might have better luck in there than in here as the signal-to-noise ratio should be lower (this channel is more general support and support for stable) |
| 00:02.25 | tupi | alright folks, thanks all , i'll try to patch the kernel and/or to write an email |
| 00:02.28 | gnarface | tupi: there probably is also a linux-kernel-specific channel somewhere (distro agnostic) you might want to try to get info from both |
| 00:02.33 | tupi | gnarface, right, many thyanks |
| 00:02.41 | gnarface | tupi: good luck |
| 00:02.48 | tupi | owh that's a good idea thanks |
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| 00:03.07 | gnarface | tupi: when you get it working i'm certain the world will appreciate you posting a debian-specific howto somewhere on the web |
| 00:03.11 | gnarface | damn |
| 00:03.42 | marchdown_ | Dulak, the specific *specific* problem I have is that when I type "aptitude install terminator" or "aptitude install okular" I get solutions that propose to remove lots of stuff, but don't get around to actually installing requested packages. |
| 00:04.19 | gnarface | marchdown_: a typical complication of corrupting your package tree by mixing distros, fyi |
| 00:04.25 | Dulak | marchdown_: You removed python2.6? |
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| 00:05.37 | marchdown_ | Guilty as charged. I'm running Crunchbang which comes with Squeeze repos by default, and I added Wheezy to sources.list, got emacs-snapshot there, and removed it again. |
| 00:06.31 | Dulak | With mixed repos you have to leave python2.6 installed. You can use the alternatives system to make python2.7 the default 'python' if you need that, but you have to leave python2.6 installed |
| 00:06.39 | marchdown_ | I thought that I was prepared to learn how to sort out this mess, but it's been hours of googling around and reading manuals, and I'm getting frustrated. |
| 00:06.47 | gnarface | marchdown_: next time you'll remember to take a full backup first |
| 00:07.44 | gnarface | marchdown_: manually sorting out such a mess is theoretically possible but the knowledge is rare. if i had it i'd share it but my best advice is just to rent a time machine so you can go back to last week and take a full backup before you hose it |
| 00:07.57 | marchdown_ | gnarface, right you are. Thankfully, there's nothing of consequence on this system, but I still would like to run the latest emacs and a bunch of other stuff if I were to reinstall. |
| 00:08.13 | gnarface | marchdown_: ever heard of backports? |
| 00:08.19 | Dulak | If you want to run wheezy packages, upgrade fully to wheezy |
| 00:08.20 | marchdown_ | Vaguely. |
| 00:08.30 | gnarface | dpkg: tell marchdown_ about backports |
| 00:08.50 | marchdown_ | Dulak, I'm not running vanilla Debian, but Crunchbang. Not sure if I could go to Wheezy. |
| 00:09.10 | marchdown_ | Hey, thanks, guys. |
| 00:09.17 | gnarface | marchdown_: the party line is that you go to backports first, and only upgrade to testing/unstable if all else fails (or if you're a masochist) |
| 00:09.17 | marchdown_ | I appreciate your help. |
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| 00:09.41 | gnarface | not sure wtf crunchbang even is but i've heard the name come up in here multiple times in relation to "omg i hozed my debian" |
| 00:09.54 | marchdown_ | So what I've done is not simply a dangerous thing, but a huge no-no, and there's no going back, right? |
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| 00:10.08 | gnarface | marchdown_: that's a tidy summary, yes |
| 00:10.44 | marchdown_ | Hmm. Back to my first question: what should I read (or do) to actually *get* APT? |
| 00:10.55 | marchdown_ | I'm just not grokking it. |
| 00:11.00 | Dulak | marchdown_: install python2,6 again, and see if that helps. You might have hosed it too badly for that to fix it but it's a start |
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| 00:11.17 | corecode | hi |
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| 00:11.21 | marchdown_ | Dulak, aptitude install python2.6 doesn't do anything. |
| 00:11.30 | corecode | is there a way to set the sequence interfaces a brought up? |
| 00:11.31 | gnarface | hmm. marchdown_ the apt-get, apt-cache, apt-file manpages and the manpage for sources.list would all be a good place to start if you haven't read them |
| 00:11.46 | marchdown_ | I have, but I'm confused. |
| 00:12.00 | gnarface | marchdown_: well maybe i can help if you're more specific about what confuses you |
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| 00:12.48 | I_Died_Once | hi, hopefully a drive through question - is there an easy way to switch to and from gnome and kde4? |
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| 00:13.05 | marchdown_ | thank you. Could you briefly describe how do the dependencies work across repos? |
| 00:13.11 | I_Died_Once | using debian squeeze amd64 ?? |
| 00:13.13 | Viking667 | I've got a question. I'm updating the xapian database, and it's taken about four hours so far...the machine is a laptop, and has 512Mb. |
| 00:13.18 | marchdown_ | Do they get connected into one huge search tree or what? |
| 00:13.26 | Viking667 | ... and it's just erm, finished. |
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| 00:13.36 | Viking667 | what the heck is taking it so long? |
| 00:13.42 | Dulak | I_Died_Once: If you use a login manager you can choose at login which X session to use (gnome, kde, openbox. etc) |
| 00:14.25 | gnarface | marchdown_: by across repos, you mean "across debian versions" ? in both cases the answer is yes, but if you mix versions (squeeze/wheezy) that's where you tend to break dependencies |
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| 00:15.20 | Raymond1965 | hallo |
| 00:15.40 | unkmar | How do I restore the lower panel in gnome? |
| 00:15.41 | gnarface | marchdown_: perhaps if you looked at the basic structure of debian packages in general it'd be more clear to you how fragile the mesh of dependencies is, and how easily you can corrupt it by mixing versions that may have packages incompatible with *necessary* things from the older versions |
| 00:15.51 | marchdown_ | Can I just purge everything that I've installed from wheezy repos? How do I see wich repo what's coming from? |
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| 00:16.12 | marchdown_ | I will do that, thank you. |
| 00:16.15 | Dulak | unkmar: gnome2? |
| 00:16.26 | gnarface | marchdown_: in theory yes, you *could* just purge everything you installed from wheezy, but some of those packages may include the tools required to purge said packages themselves... then you're kinda painted into a corner, see? |
| 00:17.20 | marchdown_ | Whatever, it was only emacs and those of its dependencies that I didn't have already. |
| 00:17.40 | gnarface | marchdown_: was it? how about dpkg/apt/multilib-support? |
| 00:17.56 | gnarface | marchdown_: even some libc versions (as far as i know) may consider squeeze obsolete |
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| 00:18.13 | gnarface | marchdown_: apt-cache policy [package name] i believe will show you were you got any given package |
| 00:18.31 | marchdown_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.38 | marchdown_ | And we're golden. |
| 00:18.40 | dvs | bad |
| 00:18.52 | pom | I moved an IP from one machine over to another that is on the same switch. From behind the switch, the machines can talk, but outside, I can only ping that IP if it set up on the first machine. |
| 00:18.59 | gnarface | marchdown_: you gotta run that for every single package output by dpkg -l |
| 00:19.06 | gnarface | marchdown_: isolate all the ones that came from wheezy |
| 00:19.08 | pom | Whenever I take it down from the first machine and set it up on the latter, I can not reach it from "outside": |
| 00:19.12 | pom | What might cause this? |
| 00:19.15 | gnarface | marchdown_: hope to god none of them are required by squeeze |
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| 00:20.11 | marchdown_ | Ha. Now I'm beginning to see. |
| 00:20.43 | Dulak | pom: arp caching saves the mac->ip binding on the originating machine, it takes up to 5 minutes after a change like that for the originating machine to clear the cache. |
| 00:20.46 | gnarface | pom: managed switches (something relatively unique to non-home hardware) often have the ability to manually lock an ip to a specific port+mac address combo. you probably need to talk to your colo |
| 00:21.14 | pom | gnarface: It's my switch, and I'm logged into it. |
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| 00:21.24 | gnarface | pom: cisco hardware? |
| 00:21.33 | pom | No, it's a Netgear GS724T. |
| 00:21.40 | gnarface | but its managed |
| 00:21.41 | gnarface | ? |
| 00:21.52 | pom | gnarface: As far as I can tell, yes. |
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| 00:22.11 | gnarface | pom: see if you can disable static arp cache or whatever its called (i'm really not sure) |
| 00:22.14 | pom | I'm not exactly sure exaclty what it means to be managed, but yes, I'm pretty confident it is. |
| 00:22.25 | Dulak | pom: you need to delete the arp entry for the old mac address on the pinging machine after you switch, or let the cache timeout |
| 00:22.29 | gnarface | pom: if you're "logged into it" then its managed. |
| 00:22.55 | pom | It's managed! |
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| 00:23.48 | gnarface | marchdown_: further complications can arise because the preinst/postinst and such scripts put in wheezy packages may be 1) more buggy than those in squeeze and 2) written to assume an entirely wheezy userland (which you don't have) so just the simple act of asking a package to remove itself may fail based on your (in said wheezy package's view) partially obsolete userland |
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| 00:26.16 | epicfail | !wheeze |
| 00:26.16 | dpkg | Debian 6.0 <stable> is codenamed <squeeze>. The current <testing> distribution, which will be released as Debian 7.0, is codenamed <wheezy>. There is no "squeezy" or "wheeze". |
| 00:26.22 | epicfail | i love to !wheeze |
| 00:26.59 | kevlarman | squeezy does sound pretty awesome tbh |
| 00:27.02 | buntunub | you fool! the stable release is called squeezy :P |
| 00:27.11 | buntunub | squeezy wheezy |
| 00:27.23 | kevlarman | buntunub: sounds like an ubuntu version |
| 00:27.23 | gnarface | ugh you guys are messing with my brain |
| 00:27.30 | gnarface | i'm gonna start mixing them up now |
| 00:27.35 | epicfail | i like sqzeezy too... it sounds small |
| 00:27.37 | dvs | looks for Mr. Jefferson |
| 00:27.51 | unkmar | Dulak: I googled it. |
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| 00:28.34 | buntunub | reminds me too much of a charmin comercial |
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| 00:29.52 | gnarface | someone should make an ubuntu derivative distribution that just merges it back to debian stable and call it whatever the african word is for "i am who i am because you all suck" |
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| 00:30.54 | epicfail | i dont like ubuntu... its so buggy |
| 00:31.17 | gnarface | buggy is ok. where its inexcusable to me is that its more buggy than sid |
| 00:32.05 | craigevil | sid is extremely 'stable' for being unstable |
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| 00:32.59 | buntunub | this is true |
| 00:33.01 | gnarface | sure, and that even suggests that something like ubuntu is a good idea... which just makes it all the more glaringly obvious how hard they dropped the ball |
| 00:33.15 | epicfail | i upgraded! restard in 1 min! gogogo! |
| 00:33.27 | gnarface | epicfail: hooraaay! |
| 00:33.33 | gnarface | epicfail: you're on wheezy now? |
| 00:34.13 | gnarface | hehe guess so |
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| 00:37.49 | gnarface | hmm |
| 00:37.55 | dvs | hmm? |
| 00:37.56 | gnarface | epicfail is still not back. i'm worried about him |
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| 00:38.19 | buntunub | he must have changed his sources.list to squeezy |
| 00:38.24 | mosno | yeah, sid is more stable than ubuntu (at least for non-LTS) -- but there's always the elevated fear that something might break with an update. reading changelogs/bugreports will only get you so far |
| 00:38.25 | gnarface | haha |
| 00:38.43 | mosno | still pretty good for $0 :-) |
| 00:38.58 | gnarface | mosno: sure but sid never gave me a broken bind9 default install |
| 00:39.21 | mosno | gnarface, and sid never made my mouse cursor disappear when switching between X11 user sessions on the local console |
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| 00:40.00 | gnarface | i'm feeling crazy and destructive |
| 00:40.08 | gnarface | pours 2 shots and updates sid |
| 00:40.15 | buntunub | time for a reinstall then gnarface |
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| 00:40.44 | gnarface | buntunub: you mean of ubuntu? or do you mean that i should just get drunk and reinstall for the fun of it? |
| 00:40.53 | buntunub | or better yet.. roll your own kernel with a bunch of experimental options rolled in |
| 00:40.56 | gnarface | haha |
| 00:41.12 | gnarface | always did want to try out plan9 filesystem compatibility |
| 00:41.14 | mosno | wipe your partition and do a weekend-long LFS marathon? :P |
| 00:41.18 | Dulak | I got tired of the time. Sid required quite a bit more time on my part than stable did, and the few things I needed from sid that weren't backported I backported to squeeze myself. |
| 00:41.24 | buntunub | nah reinstall with everything on btrfs |
| 00:41.39 | craigevil | mosno, sid on my desktop was installed 7 yrs ago, daily apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, still havent had to reinstall |
| 00:42.02 | mosno | craigevil, nice. as long as you have a good backup/restore plan, life is good |
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| 00:42.26 | pom | gnarface: Do you think that Debian could be involved in my IP problem at all? I think it is a long shot, but when we went from Debian to Fedora (temporarily), we did the exact same swap, and there was no issue. This was two weeks ago. |
| 00:42.40 | buntunub | btw.. can you have your boot partition on btrfs yet |
| 00:42.55 | gnarface | i've had a couple annoying breaks on sid, but they were largely ultimately tied to X11/Nvidia binary incompatibility and old hardware or one inopportune upgrade during a perl transition |
| 00:43.00 | buntunub | havent heard if they fixed that yet |
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| 00:43.58 | gnarface | pom: anything's possible but the situation you described was in my experience 100% certainly related to managed switch configuration.... i suppose if you've done weird stuff to the way your debian install handles arp caching though... sure you could simulate that behavior ... stock though? i wouldn't place money on it |
| 00:44.41 | gnarface | pom: are you running some sort of fancy arp cache on another box on the network? i vaugely recall this as a common feature of openbsd routers too but i never really looked into it |
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| 00:45.12 | pom | No, there are four machines, one switch. I installed all of them my self. |
| 00:45.15 | Dulak | It's not the switch, it's the arp cache on the pinging machine. I'd bet you ping the ip while it's on the old machine, which gets the old mac address in the cache, then you switch it, and ping the ip, but it's still pointing at the old mac in the cache. |
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| 00:45.19 | philipp_ | hello? |
| 00:45.21 | pom | So sure there is nothing like that. |
| 00:45.40 | philipp_ | guys i did the dist upgrade but my gnome is gon now. HELP ME! |
| 00:45.49 | gnarface | pom: you're CERTAIN that no two boxes connected to this switch are using the same ip right? that could also cause a similar complication |
| 00:46.29 | gnarface | pom: note if its a managed switch it also may need its own ip |
| 00:46.33 | pom | gnarface: Yes. I just brouht it down from first machine, brought it up on seconds. Only connected to two machines. |
| 00:46.49 | craigevil | philipp_, dist-upgrade from what to what? |
| 00:47.04 | pom | When I bring up this IP on the original machine it talks happily to the internet again, immediatelyt. |
| 00:47.08 | philipp_ | craigevil from squeeze to wheeze |
| 00:47.12 | philipp_ | wheezy |
| 00:47.22 | gnarface | pom: got a spare switch? like a dumb non-managed one you could swap out just to test with? |
| 00:47.44 | craigevil | philipp_, reinstall gnome easy enough to do |
| 00:47.48 | pom | gnarface: Yeah, but not tonight. Think I'll have to call it a flop for tonight. :) |
| 00:47.51 | Dulak | pom: ohhhh, yeah gnarface is right, it's the arp cache on the switch then, I thought you were saying some other machine can't ping in. |
| 00:48.23 | philipp_ | craigevil: its something with the driver... how do i force a package installed with apt again? |
| 00:48.36 | gnarface | pom: just an fyi too... netgear and 3com's "ultra cheap competitors to cisco product" switches are *not* known for strict adherence to the operating manual they're shipped with... |
| 00:49.04 | pom | Dulak: It sure seems so. Happen to know a safe way to make it go nice? :) |
| 00:49.05 | craigevil | philipp_, video driver? follow the wiki to install ati/nvidia |
| 00:49.37 | philipp_ | craigevil: you are makeing fun of me? you know i have no GUI right now! |
| 00:49.48 | Dulak | pom: only if the switch lets you expire the cache, or turn it off, or make the timeout like 5 seconds, which many of the cheap switches do not let you do |
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| 00:50.11 | gnarface | philipp_: lynx will allow you to browse the web in text. not gonna be fun but it will be sufficient to read a wiki |
| 00:50.23 | craigevil | philipp_, so use links2 -g |
| 00:50.39 | pom | Dulak: Alright. So, ARP cache it's called, right? No known aliases, because I can find nothing ot the sort in the web interface. |
| 00:50.43 | Dulak | pom: quick and dirty would be to reboot the switch after you swap the ip to a new machine, but that is not a real solution for the future, just a 'get it working now' kind of thing. |
| 00:50.46 | craigevil | philipp_, what video card? |
| 00:50.51 | philipp_ | nvidia |
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| 00:51.01 | pom | Dulak: Yeah, I tried exactly that. Did not work. |
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| 00:51.12 | philipp_ | craigevil: nvidia is it nvidia-glx on debian testing too? |
| 00:51.15 | gnarface | pom: it may not be referred to as "arp cache" it may be something like "static arp" or some variation" |
| 00:51.16 | sweb | how can in install one package from testing packages ? |
| 00:51.25 | craigevil | philipp_, yes |
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| 00:52.58 | philipp_ | craigevil: it breaks on libc6-dev it tells |
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| 00:53.35 | dvs | !tell sweb about backports |
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| 00:54.01 | philipp_ | so you guys help me or not? |
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| 00:55.03 | sweb | INSERT not work in vi !!! |
| 00:55.05 | sweb | why ? |
| 00:55.09 | philipp_ | anyone there??? |
| 00:55.15 | philipp_ | thx for no help -.- |
| 00:55.21 | kevlarman | sweb: what do you expect it to do? |
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| 00:56.00 | craigevil | philipp_, apt-get install nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 00:56.08 | kevlarman | sweb: i (or a) |
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| 00:56.33 | philipp_ | craigevil: it is installed |
| 00:57.06 | philipp_ | craigevil: it tells me libc6-dev breakes on gcc 4.4 |
| 00:57.09 | philipp_ | dont know what that means |
| 00:57.24 | sweb | sweb: when i press `Insert` or `i` not insert method enable. arrow keys put some characters like `B` to source |
| 00:57.32 | sweb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:57.55 | gnarface | philipp_: do you have gcc 4.5 or gcc 4.6? i have all 3 and need at least both of the last two to do everything |
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| 00:58.14 | craigevil | philipp_, double check that you commented all of the squeeze lines in sources.list and run apt-get -f install |
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| 00:59.06 | philipp_ | craigevil: what the hell does gcc and libsomething have to do with nvidia-glx (not even glx-dev) |
| 01:00.02 | craigevil | philipp_, run apt-get -f install and pastebin any errors |
| 01:00.07 | gnarface | philipp_: everything |
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| 01:00.36 | philipp_ | HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PASTEBIN I HAVE NO GUI!!!! |
| 01:00.41 | gnarface | fuuuuck noobs |
| 01:00.46 | gnarface | philipp_: apt-get install pastebinit |
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| 01:01.04 | Dulak | haha, you really are in a mood today gnarface |
| 01:01.18 | gnarface | is angry today |
| 01:01.26 | dvs | backs away |
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| 01:01.43 | craigevil | !tell philipp_ about pastebinit |
| 01:02.00 | gnarface | takes a deep breath and puts down the chainsaw |
| 01:02.03 | philipp_ | okey on it |
| 01:02.50 | philipp_ | 160376 |
| 01:03.12 | philipp_ | paste.debian.net/160376 |
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| 01:04.05 | philipp_ | is there no command like apt-get -screweverythingelse install ? |
| 01:04.20 | craigevil | ,versions gcc-4.4 |
| 01:04.21 | judd | Package: gcc-4.4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.4.5-8; wheezy: 4.4.6-14; sid: 4.4.7-1 |
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| 01:04.45 | craigevil | you still have stable in your sources.list |
| 01:04.57 | dvs | or you didn't do an update |
| 01:05.05 | philipp_ | craigevil: rly? i alrady doublechecked |
| 01:05.08 | craigevil | either that or you have a apt.pref set to stable |
| 01:05.32 | craigevil | philipp_, look at the error then look at the ,versions gcc-4.4 |
| 01:05.36 | gnarface | don't forget to check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ too |
| 01:05.59 | philipp_ | i pasted my sources list 160377 |
| 01:06.18 | sweb | i have problem using vi in Debian :( |
| 01:06.21 | craigevil | philipp_, double check sources.list comment anything that has stable/squeeze, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 01:07.58 | philipp_ | craigevil: i pasted my sources.ist under 160377 |
| 01:08.33 | philipp_ | harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... did not do dist-upgrade just upgrade |
| 01:09.03 | craigevil | well doh then you didnt upgrade to testing |
| 01:09.25 | gnarface | !rimshot |
| 01:09.25 | dpkg | BA-DUM-TSHT! |
| 01:09.33 | philipp_ | now that we are all happy here: is there a way to copy/paste from terminal? |
| 01:09.51 | gnarface | gpm |
| 01:11.12 | philipp_ | what was the graphical browser for the terminal again? |
| 01:11.17 | philipp_ | xlinks -g ? |
| 01:11.36 | gnarface | lynx or links2 work.... neither are what i'd call "graphical" though |
| 01:11.58 | gnarface | is there an svgalib browser that does images and everything? |
| 01:12.02 | craigevil | links2 -g but you have to config it first |
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| 01:13.08 | craigevil | gnarface, follow the howto /usr/share/doc/links2/README.Debian basically only one command |
| 01:14.10 | gnarface | huh |
| 01:14.12 | gnarface | well i'll be |
| 01:14.16 | gnarface | that's a neat trick |
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| 01:17.30 | delvalle26 | gnarface: w3m as well |
| 01:17.40 | delvalle26 | you'll need the w3m-img package as well |
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| 01:18.02 | gnarface | neat |
| 01:18.17 | gnarface | had been wondering wtf w3m was good for |
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| 01:19.46 | Girls_09 | see @ double click -- > http://twurl.nl/lip7gr |
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| 01:20.08 | gnarface | glares at the spammer |
| 01:20.15 | gnarface | reaches for his chainsaw |
| 01:20.24 | dvs | eek |
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| 01:20.37 | gnarface | haha |
| 01:20.39 | gnarface | !rimshot |
| 01:20.39 | dpkg | BA-DUM-TSHT! |
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| 01:21.08 | philipp_ | |
| 01:21.11 | philipp_ | wtf is that? |
| 01:21.24 | gnarface | looks like a unicode character my font doesn't have a glyph for |
| 01:21.33 | gnarface | got the #? |
| 01:22.08 | gnarface | '\302\237'? |
| 01:23.07 | gnarface | some sort of escape sequence emacs uses? |
| 01:23.14 | gnarface | just guessing, i don't know |
| 01:23.54 | philipp_ | to be honest i start enjoing terminal only... |
| 01:24.01 | sweb | i add APT: Default-Release "stable"; to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf but during apt-get upgrade want to install from test |
| 01:24.03 | craigevil | return, happens when you copy text from a terminal and paste |
| 01:24.42 | craigevil | sweb, use backports or /msg dpkg ssb , dont mix repos unless you want a broken system |
| 01:24.48 | scampbell | anyone here had success at forcing preseed to always use a gpt disk label? |
| 01:25.36 | gnarface | oh download finished, long upgrade started. i will have to bail out to reboot in a minute or two here... wish me luck |
| 01:26.04 | sweb | craigevil: i need some packages from testing |
| 01:26.07 | sweb | craigevil: not all |
| 01:26.14 | sweb | how can i configure somes |
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| 01:26.50 | gnarface | philipp_: its a refreshing change from a DOS prompt, no? maybe you can talk some sense into sweb after your experience |
| 01:27.07 | craigevil | sweb, backport them follow what dpkg will tells you when you do /msg dokg ssb |
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| 01:27.58 | philipp_ | u know i once mad a women here in the chat who tould me she has not even installed a GUI |
| 01:28.35 | gnarface | i believe it. if you're hardcore there are a lot of performance benefits to be had on older hardware by not running X11 |
| 01:29.05 | gnarface | you limit your software choice sure, but you can still run quake 1 :) |
| 01:29.23 | craigevil | and watch videos in mplayer |
| 01:29.24 | philipp_ | never heared of her again... too bad... could have learned so much from her |
| 01:29.37 | Dulak | In the late 90s I refused to use X at all, but I grew out of that once gnome came along |
| 01:30.08 | philipp_ | have to restart brb |
| 01:30.25 | gnarface | grew out of it once nvidia started releasing linux drivers |
| 01:30.33 | DanDare | yeah, plain fvwm sucked at times |
| 01:31.15 | sweb | craigevil: my packages not available on backports |
| 01:31.16 | DanDare | icewm was a bit better |
| 01:31.44 | gnarface | i heard a rumor that after many years, afterstep is back in development |
| 01:31.55 | Dulak | sweb: then backport them yourself, it's not that hard to create packages, you will regret mixing repos. |
| 01:32.03 | craigevil | sweb, which is why you need to backport it yourself, do this /msg dpkg ssb and follow the steps to build it yourself |
| 01:32.11 | DanDare | windowmaker was a revolution ! :p |
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| 01:32.21 | philipp_ | heyyyyyyyyyyy and the upgrade failed ofc! |
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| 01:32.35 | gnarface | uh oh |
| 01:32.38 | DanDare | xfce is just great, for me |
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| 01:32.44 | gnarface | got a pastebin of the fail philipp_ ? |
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| 01:32.54 | sweb | i just wanna install some packages from testing. i dont think it's complicated |
| 01:33.18 | DanDare | sweb get the .DEB ans intall it |
| 01:33.23 | gnarface | sweb: seriously, talk to philipp_ ... he's going through the aftermath of what you're about to do to yourself |
| 01:33.43 | sweb | DanDare: and their depencies ? |
| 01:34.07 | DanDare | well, thats a bit more complicated, really |
| 01:34.09 | gnarface | its like watching a train wreck in slow motion, over and over |
| 01:34.20 | Dulak | sweb: When you mix repos it causes dependency nightmares, which will make you very unhappy. You will spend less time overall backporting whatever packages you need than if you try to 'shortcut' by mixing repos. |
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| 01:34.46 | Dulak | It only seems like it will be easier, but it never is. |
| 01:34.56 | sweb | ok guys ty for guide. Happy Nourouz(Persian New Year) ~0) |
| 01:35.41 | DanDare | is proud he just mess with stable |
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| 01:36.14 | Dulak | I run stable too, but I backported things I needed, it only takes mixing the repos once to learn that lesson. |
| 01:36.20 | craigevil | DanDare, stable ran for 2 days on this laptop before i installed sid |
| 01:36.24 | DanDare | I see |
| 01:36.47 | ineedarobot | hey all, I have two debian servers. one feels like it is running slower than the other. Is there any way I can run a basic performance test on the filesystem? |
| 01:36.53 | DanDare | Yeah I know. A functional and stable Debian is all I need/want |
| 01:37.14 | craigevil | DanDare, but i have ran sid for 8 yrs now so i can deal when it blows up |
| 01:37.33 | gnarface | ineedarobot: bonnie++ and hdparm are popular |
| 01:37.37 | DanDare | craigevil, understand.. .you are just other level of user than me |
| 01:37.57 | ineedarobot | thanks gnarface |
| 01:38.04 | DanDare | well, theres a reason I use Debian after all... for the stable distro :) |
| 01:38.17 | gnarface | ineedarobot: no problem |
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| 01:39.27 | gnarface | ineedarobot: you may also want to look into smartmontools if your hardware supports it (most x86 hardware does these days) to evaluate drive-life and wear-related issues |
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| 01:40.23 | ineedarobot | gnarface: it is a vps that feels slow. so i think i will run this and then ask support to fix if this looks bad. thanks again! |
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| 01:47.59 | gnarface | brb, rebooting for good measure |
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| 01:52.42 | fortpark | how can i start all services in a run level |
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| 01:54.34 | cthuluh | fortpark: generally you just switch to that runlevel, using telinit |
| 01:55.33 | fortpark | its not working like that |
| 01:55.45 | fortpark | i had something kill some pids in /var/run .... |
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| 01:56.02 | fortpark | not sure whats missing but they arent restarting atomatically |
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| 01:58.37 | gnarface | so far so good... |
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| 01:59.01 | beardy | !runlevel |
| 01:59.02 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot. By default 2, 3, 4 and 5 are identical (no graphic/non-graphic runlevels), but you can configure this if you wish. Read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d; if that doesn't make sense, consider installing <rcconf> instead. See also http://debian-administration.org/articles/212, <startup>, <file-rc>, <single-user mode>. |
| 01:59.16 | beardy | !wayttd fortpark |
| 01:59.16 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, fortpark? |
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| 02:02.39 | beardy | Generally you don't fiddle with runlevels. Install what you want, and donät install things you don't want to run. Simple as that. |
| 02:03.33 | gnarface | redhat legacy behavior has caused a lot of people to assume you control things with runlevels that you don't in debian/shouldn't ever though - that's an important thing for everyone to understand |
| 02:04.07 | fortpark | i was trying to start all services up to my runlevel |
| 02:04.25 | fortpark | because some were dead and i couldnt get into the system, even though ssh was running and iptables |
| 02:04.30 | beardy | fortpark: They are started if they should be and if your system is up. |
| 02:04.47 | beardy | fortpark: Then you have other problems, don't create more. |
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| 02:05.29 | beardy | fortpark: Find out why they are down instead. |
| 02:05.54 | fortpark | i just rebooted |
| 02:05.56 | fortpark | instead |
| 02:06.18 | beardy | Excellent choice. Now pay attention to what happens, if something isn't starting up. |
| 02:06.27 | fortpark | its fixed |
| 02:06.47 | beardy | Ok. Then examine the logs as to why it was as it was before. |
| 02:06.54 | fortpark | i know why |
| 02:07.06 | beardy | And? |
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| 02:08.29 | gnarface | aaaand, what he really wants to do is still totally possible in debian besides defaults foreign to his mindset but he's gonna blame you that it doesn't work how he expects |
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| 02:09.26 | gnarface | still isn't sure if debian deviates from system-v expected behavior on that one but has come to like it more |
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| 02:09.42 | beardy | Work with the sane Debian defaults for they are Good. |
| 02:09.58 | gnarface | there are a couple things i override with symlinks still |
| 02:10.04 | gnarface | nothing big |
| 02:10.19 | dhunter | ls |
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| 02:10.28 | gnarface | wrong window dhbiker |
| 02:10.30 | gnarface | er, dhun |
| 02:10.32 | gnarface | haha |
| 02:10.34 | gnarface | nevermind |
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| 02:18.43 | johnfg_ | hi folks |
| 02:19.51 | johnfg_ | last night someone mentioned a rolling release debian. Unfortunately, I didn't have logging turned on in irssi. Anyone know what it was? |
| 02:19.59 | mosno | johnfg_, cut |
| 02:20.09 | mosno | johnfg_, it's not mature yet afaik |
| 02:20.17 | fortpark | gnarface, how do i do it on debian? |
| 02:20.26 | gnarface | johnfg_: that's a dirty word around here, but sid is as close as you're gonna get for right now |
| 02:20.30 | johnfg_ | mosno, where is cut now? |
| 02:20.45 | gnarface | fortpark: what, keep your graphical login manager from starting by default? |
| 02:20.57 | mosno | johnfg_, i'd use sid plus apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs for now, unless you want to contribute |
| 02:21.01 | mosno | johnfg_, cut.debian.net |
| 02:21.05 | fortpark | no, manually start all processes up to runlevel 3 |
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| 02:21.12 | fortpark | well not manually |
| 02:21.13 | johnfg_ | gnarface, Yeah, understood. I thought about doing what someone mentioned, changing my sources to testing and then doing the dist-upgrade. |
| 02:21.25 | fortpark | automatically without dropping to runlevel 1 |
| 02:21.33 | johnfg_ | mosno, Thanks for the tip. |
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| 02:23.02 | Dulak | Can you unignore an ignored ssh key? I copied a key to my server but forgot to fix perms on the file and it ignored the key, now I cannot use it. Any way to unignore it? |
| 02:23.12 | gnarface | fortpark: hmm. not really sure without thinking it out a bit more. in general LSB http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot is the correct way but i think we need to backtrack here a bit. debian as far as i understood only goes up to 2 by default. what do you have in init 3 that's not already in init 2? |
| 02:24.34 | fortpark | inittab says runlevel 3 is the default |
| 02:24.48 | fortpark | err 2 |
| 02:24.49 | fortpark | hrm |
| 02:24.51 | gnarface | fortpark: you can still override the dependency-based boot with symlinks (you'll merely generate warnings wherever they conflict) but operating under the assumption that anything graphical is defaulted to a runlevel while anything non-graphical is defaulted to others (as per redhat traditionally) would be a confusing misconception under which to operate |
| 02:25.03 | fortpark | i dont use graphical |
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| 02:25.21 | kd123 | Hello |
| 02:25.39 | kd123 | I'm trying to setup two clients to pxe boot off a server... |
| 02:25.47 | gnarface | fortpark: and you can get in with ssh... so what isn't working again? |
| 02:26.14 | kd123 | the one client boots via pxe fine and acquires it's ip via DHCP fine, and tftp is fine too |
| 02:26.51 | kd123 | the other client... boots with pxe and acquires it's ip via DHCP fine (I think), but then TFTP times out |
| 02:27.32 | kd123 | I'm thinking that maybe my '/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf' file is incorrect... |
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| 02:27.48 | kd123 | does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 02:27.54 | gnarface | fortpark: (sorry if you already typed that part while i was rebooting) |
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| 02:29.12 | gnarface | blinks |
| 02:29.31 | beardy | folivora: What do you have in runlevel 3, or what do you think you have in runlevel 3? |
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| 02:30.08 | gnarface | beardy: it was fortpark. he's gone.... i suspect "gremlins" however is the answer |
| 02:30.11 | beardy | folivora: Nicktaberror, sorry. |
| 02:30.16 | kd123 | Here's the pastebin of my /etc/dhcp/dhcp.conf file -> http://pastebin.com/kmnG4B2K |
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| 02:30.31 | beardy | I think more of cluebies. |
| 02:32.26 | kd123 | What does the DHCP option "next-server" do? |
| 02:32.58 | gnarface | not sure but i can guess that if you only have one of everything then "something wrong" |
| 02:32.59 | kd123 | should that be set to the server interface's ip that the client is connecting to? |
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| 02:33.27 | DeM0nFiRe | Hello |
| 02:34.48 | gnarface | kd123: oh maybe that's a bad guess. did you read the dhcpd.conf manpage? it says "and |
| 02:34.48 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.48 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:35.56 | gnarface | kd123: i'm lead to believe that you want one filename, one next-server and a list of hosts for each group |
| 02:36.05 | kd123 | gnarface, no I didn't think of that... thanks for getting it for me... so "the address of the server from which to upload the file" |
| 02:36.51 | kd123 | gnarface... well my server has two interfaces eth0 (192.168.0.1) and eth1 (192.168.0.128) |
| 02:37.35 | gnarface | kd123: yea and filename would be the file name itself, and i'm assuming the hosts lines which contain mac addresses refer to the mac addresses of the machines TO which to push said file (not that i've ever tried pxe/tftp boot, although i intend to some day) |
| 02:37.47 | kd123 | if you look at my pastebin above... I have client 1 (node1) assigned "next-server 192.168.0.1" |
| 02:38.02 | kd123 | and client 2 (node2) assigned to "next-server 192.168.0.128" |
| 02:38.23 | kd123 | I have the filename set to pxelinux.0 ... same for both clients |
| 02:38.27 | gnarface | kd123: well i'd assume either would work as long as they're both physically connected to the same network.... like i said i've never done what you're trying to do though |
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| 02:39.03 | kd123 | well client 1 works fine... it's client 2 that's throwing the TFTP timeout... |
| 02:39.39 | kd123 | and client 2 gives the timeout if I set next-server to 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.128... |
| 02:39.46 | gnarface | kd123: well maybe the dhcp server or the tftp server is only listening on eth0? |
| 02:40.02 | kd123 | oh crap.... |
| 02:40.05 | kd123 | lol |
| 02:40.11 | kd123 | gnarface your a genius |
| 02:40.13 | kd123 | :D |
| 02:40.24 | gnarface | kd123: if that's true, god help us all |
| 02:41.14 | kd123 | haha... I've done this before... but I can't remember which file controls what the tftp server listens on... |
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| 02:41.46 | gnarface | kd123: i definitely can't help with that. i've still yet to try this whole preseeding thing |
| 02:42.03 | kd123 | gnarface, via iptables? |
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| 02:42.55 | gnarface | kd123: uh... i'm confused. how would iptables be involved? that's for firewalling and routing |
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| 02:43.28 | gnarface | kd123: maybe i should rephrase using more modern english: i have not tried what you are doing |
| 02:44.06 | gnarface | kd123: if my advice helped you, it was merely a lucky guess on my part |
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| 02:44.57 | kd123 | gnarface... I was looking at some iptables stuff earlier.... I thought I saw something refering to "preseeding"... |
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| 02:45.49 | kd123 | by the way the file to designate what interfaces the DHCP server should listen on is '/etc/defaults/isc-dhcp-server' |
| 02:46.04 | gnarface | kd123: iptables is a fairly multi-purpose routing+firewalling+traffic mangling tool. its very likely there are preseeding solutions involving it just like its very likely there are automobile solutions involving "GoodYear" brand tires |
| 02:46.41 | kd123 | I already have the DHCP server set to both interfaces.... INTERFACES="eth0 eth1"... so now I have to find the file for the TFTP server |
| 02:46.43 | gnarface | kd123: ah, that would be specific to the dhcp server YOU are using (the brand of tires, i guess) |
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| 02:47.01 | gnarface | kd123: fyi there are probably other dhcp servers available |
| 02:47.05 | kd123 | gnarface, lol .... ok I see.... I'm kinda a noob here |
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| 02:47.16 | gnarface | kd123: well you're already in uncharted territory for me |
| 02:48.09 | gnarface | kd123: if you can figure out which tftp server you're using you should be able to list its contents with: dpkg -L [package name] |
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| 02:48.22 | gnarface | kd123: that may show you where the config files are (they'd be the ones in /etc) |
| 02:48.43 | kd123 | gnarface... oh ok... I'm using tftpd-hpa... |
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| 02:49.25 | gnarface | kd123: dpkg -L only works for packages you currently have installed so i can't check your work on this one |
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| 02:49.42 | kd123 | yeah that's fine... I ran the command and it spit out locations |
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| 02:50.03 | kd123 | but I have some tftpd-hpa config file in '/etc/default' it didn't list :P |
| 02:50.23 | kd123 | but that TFTPD-hpa config file didn't list Interfaces to listen on.... hmmm |
| 02:50.48 | gnarface | kd123: hmm. well some daemons reuqire manual config file creation, fyi. check in /usr/share/doc/tftpd-hpa for debian-specific and package docs |
| 02:52.11 | kd123 | gnarface, ah ok... thanks for the tip |
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| 02:53.32 | gnarface | kd123: also i notice in the dhcpd config you pasted, it looks like you have two separate host blocks each with their own mac addresses... what you are trying to do sounds like it would require changing the location of one of the mac addresses so they're both under the same block, but the man page *I* read (maybe for the wrong dhcpd server though) suggests you'd group hosts like this under group blocks, while you're using the host |
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| 02:56.00 | kd123 | gnarface... I'm sure your on to something... I initially thought it was my dhcp file.... but my lack of networking knowledge makes this confusing |
| 02:57.36 | kd123 | so for my subnet192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0... I'd need like a range for both my clients? |
| 02:57.38 | kd123 | or I could |
| 02:57.43 | gnarface | hmm |
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| 02:57.48 | kd123 | have a separate subnet for each client? |
| 02:58.25 | gnarface | kd123: what does youre dhcpd.conf man page say? http://lrp2.steinkuehler.net/Packages/man/dhcpd.conf.5.man.htm i was going off this one but there are multiple dhcpd and i have no idea which this is for |
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| 02:58.56 | gnarface | kd123: try running man dhcpd.conf and scrolling down to EXAMPLES |
| 02:59.13 | gnarface | kd123: then you'll know at least you're working off the right docs |
| 02:59.15 | kd123 | ah ok |
| 02:59.18 | gnarface | kd123: (probably) |
| 02:59.24 | lasers | Hi. I want to use NFS for my XBMC PC accessing a server. I believe autofs is what I'm looking for. Is that correct? Does anybody have any experience with autofs? |
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| 03:05.15 | sweb | http://serverfault.com/questions/371383/install-whitelist-of-packages-using-unstable-in-debian |
| 03:07.50 | kd123 | gnarface, so a host can have multiple interfaces? |
| 03:08.35 | gnarface | kd123: you mean in a general networking context? sure, why not? |
| 03:09.12 | gnarface | kd123: or do you mean in a dhcp context? that i am not so sure of. |
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| 03:10.03 | gnarface | kd123: i'd consulte the dhcpd.conf man page for your dhcpd... i suspect its possible you may have to group multiple hosts stanzas (each with only one mac address) together with some other higher-level stanza (group maybe?) |
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| 03:11.40 | gnarface | does anyone here have experience using tftpd and isc's dhcpd to preseed debian installs? kd123 needs help and its outside my experience |
| 03:12.04 | kd123 | gnarface, I meant in a dhcp context |
| 03:12.16 | kd123 | gnarface, thanks for all the help |
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| 03:12.45 | gnarface | kd123: i wish you luck.. i'm sure if you read the relevant man pages your answers will materialize |
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| 03:14.01 | r3m | Hi, i installed debian on my laptop that already have win7, but i only see debian on grub screen (i do not erase win7 partition, only resize) |
| 03:14.08 | kd123 | hopefully... I'm lacking core networking fundamental understanding... but I'm learning a lot doing this |
| 03:14.44 | kd123 | r3m, grub won't list windows boot |
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| 03:15.44 | dvs_ | kd123: aptitude install os-prober |
| 03:16.21 | kd123 | dvs_... I was responding to r3m. :) |
| 03:16.29 | dvs_ | sorry |
| 03:16.35 | r3m | dvs_: thanks |
| 03:16.38 | kd123 | that's fine |
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| 03:33.15 | fragrant | Hi, when would we get debian wheezy as stable mode? |
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| 03:34.20 | somiaj | wait until wheezy stableizes and is released |
| 03:34.54 | fragrant | Is there any timeline for wheezy? |
| 03:34.59 | fragrant | ~wheezy |
| 03:34.59 | apt | wheezy is probably what fire_hawk thinks Debian 3.0 should be dubbed; Wheezy is the toy penguin from Toy Story 2. |
| 03:35.09 | fragrant | !wheezy |
| 03:35.09 | dpkg | The release after squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie), and will be Debian 7.0. Ask me about <testing>. #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
| 03:35.23 | somiaj | there is no real time line |
| 03:35.24 | dvs_ | !wwwr |
| 03:35.25 | dpkg | I don't know when Wheezy will release, but I can say that it will be sooner if you help. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. The freeze that will lead to the release of Wheezy is currently planned for June 2012. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/01/msg00009.html |
| 03:35.52 | fragrant | June 2012? |
| 03:36.19 | somiaj | that is the freeze, it will take a while after that date for all the release critical bugs to be fixed |
| 03:36.41 | gnarface | probably around 2-3 months i'd bet |
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| 03:37.30 | gnarface | haha |
| 03:37.32 | gnarface | !next |
| 03:37.33 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 03:38.09 | gnarface | to be honest june sounds early for me |
| 03:38.16 | gnarface | that's way earlier than i'd have expected |
| 03:38.19 | gnarface | seems ambitious |
| 03:38.25 | dvs_ | yup |
| 03:38.27 | gnarface | but i guess i'm not on the inside loop |
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| 04:12.33 | lasers` | Hi. I'm having problems trying to set up my first NFS (and autofs). Halp? :( |
| 04:15.20 | lasers` | http://pastebin.com/wrr3WF4i |
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| 04:17.12 | MelindaACN | Helllo |
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| 04:26.10 | pepi | hello |
| 04:26.16 | asarch | CPU Frequency Scalling for Debian Testing, hoe? |
| 04:26.22 | asarch | I mean, how? |
| 04:27.01 | asarch | My CPU is literally burning |
| 04:27.02 | asarch | :-( |
| 04:29.36 | nikitis | If I have a kernel compile error. What is the best way to get it looked at? |
| 04:29.38 | pepi | asarch: for me the best way is use source based operating system like gentoo but in debian is possible to make own kernel where you can set up it if it is supported. |
| 04:30.05 | asarch | ? |
| 04:30.23 | asarch | You mean nikitis, right pepi? |
| 04:30.51 | pepi | what is your CPU ? |
| 04:30.52 | FredwardTheGreat | my cpu frequency scalling for stuff at various places |
| 04:31.26 | pepi | my is for full performance always |
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| 04:31.44 | pepi | I mean my laptop |
| 04:32.10 | asarch | I would like to use "powersave" |
| 04:32.21 | asarch | Since Toshiba laptops are quiet hot |
| 04:32.28 | asarch | *quite |
| 04:32.28 | pepi | other have difrent options |
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| 04:32.37 | nikitis | I'm compiling the 3.2.11 kernel for debian on Playstation 3. I've debootstrapped successfully. But signal.c errors on on CC kernel/signal.o during kernel compile. I have line numbers etc. |
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| 04:33.48 | pepi | asarch: is the manufacturer of your CPU |
| 04:33.53 | nikitis | line 255 of signal.c |
| 04:33.58 | pepi | asarch: I mean model |
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| 04:34.36 | pepi | asarch: it is a intel or some amd ? |
| 04:34.57 | asarch | http://pastebin.com/Urh7GMUg |
| 04:35.00 | asarch | An Intel |
| 04:35.04 | asarch | Take a look |
| 04:35.17 | pepi | /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 04:35.23 | asarch | Yeah |
| 04:36.58 | pepi | so you use debian at this proc aye? |
| 04:37.35 | asarch | ? |
| 04:37.39 | asarch | What do you mean? |
| 04:38.31 | nikitis | Anyone? |
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| 04:41.32 | fragrant | Hi, i can't unmount a disk |
| 04:41.44 | fragrant | device is busy |
| 04:41.45 | fragrant | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.46 | fragrant | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.08 | pepi | I dont see point to setup any governor to this CPU its effective like it is |
| 04:42.16 | fragrant | mount --bind /dev /media/sda6/dev |
| 04:43.05 | pepi | /dev/what? |
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| 04:43.28 | fragrant | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.43 | epsilon | mount bind on dev? whos idea was that |
| 04:44.00 | pepi | its always /dev/sda or hda etc ? |
| 04:44.06 | fragrant | I chroot |
| 04:44.30 | fragrant | http://pastebin.com/CNHbZ8fB |
| 04:44.53 | pepi | mount -o loop /dev /media/sda6/dev |
| 04:44.56 | fragrant | To chroot i had to mount --bind /dev /media/sda6/dev |
| 04:45.26 | fragrant | How can i unmount now? |
| 04:46.40 | pepi | sorry |
| 04:46.48 | pepi | smoke to much |
| 04:47.18 | pepi | mount --rbind /dev /media/sda6/dev |
| 04:47.21 | pepi | or |
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| 04:48.19 | pepi | mount -o bind /dev /media/sda6/dev |
| 04:48.32 | fragrant | How can i umount? |
| 04:48.48 | pepi | umount /media/sda6 |
| 04:49.08 | fragrant | http://pastebin.com/CNHbZ8fB |
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| 04:49.26 | pepi | or full path of this what you mount |
| 04:49.52 | pepi | haha |
| 04:49.59 | pepi | cd |
| 04:50.14 | pepi | cd in all consoles |
| 04:50.19 | pepi | and then umount |
| 04:50.25 | fragrant | Fuck |
| 04:50.47 | pepi | back to your home folder or / or what ever |
| 04:50.47 | FredwardTheGreat | after it rebooted, wifi at my home was right place |
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| 04:51.18 | nikitis | Where's the best place to report kernel compile errors? |
| 04:51.54 | pepi | sometimes its me |
| 04:52.09 | nikitis | Is it this time :) |
| 04:52.18 | pepi | but best way is developer |
| 04:52.35 | nikitis | what i'm doing is a bit custom |
| 04:52.40 | nikitis | it's debian on Playstation 3 |
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| 04:52.49 | pepi | wow |
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| 04:52.59 | nikitis | I can compile 2.6.39.4 kernel fine on PS3 |
| 04:53.10 | nikitis | but 3.2.11 kernel errors out during compile |
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| 04:53.26 | nikitis | it's basically just powerpc |
| 04:53.31 | pepi | sorry never do it before, know its possible but threet it like standard PC |
| 04:53.39 | nikitis | right |
| 04:53.42 | nikitis | it is pretty much |
| 04:53.42 | FredwardTheGreat | it doesnt recognise it could pretty close |
| 04:53.50 | pepi | all data locater are in: |
| 04:54.00 | pepi | very basic mode |
| 04:54.07 | nikitis | Well a talented developer made all the patches needed to make it work. And he's made it work, but he cross compiles |
| 04:54.17 | nikitis | i'm trying to compile on the actual system |
| 04:54.21 | nikitis | during debootstrap |
| 04:54.28 | nikitis | well afterwards |
| 04:54.33 | nikitis | but that's how I get it on there |
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| 04:54.47 | nikitis | i wrote my own installer for 2.6 kernel which works very well |
| 04:55.06 | nikitis | and i'm just trying to upgrade it for 3.2.11 kernel |
| 04:55.15 | nikitis | really only changes is kernel compile |
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| 04:55.38 | nikitis | when it gets to CC kernel/signal.o signal.c has error line.255 |
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| 04:56.19 | nikitis | Here is the error: http://pastie.org/3632720 |
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| 05:00.14 | pepi | did you upgrade gcc ? |
| 05:00.32 | nikitis | no |
| 05:00.36 | nikitis | it's on 4.4 still |
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| 05:00.44 | nikitis | i was thinking maybe that's what needed fixing |
| 05:00.51 | pepi | did you try upgrade gcc*** |
| 05:00.51 | FredwardTheGreat | can't calculate upgrade gcc ? |
| 05:01.01 | pepi | hmmm |
| 05:01.18 | nikitis | well i only install build-essential just before kernel compile |
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| 05:01.25 | nikitis | and it installs 4.4 |
| 05:01.27 | pepi | its 4.4 good |
| 05:01.37 | nikitis | it may need higher |
| 05:01.40 | nikitis | 4.5+ |
| 05:01.54 | pepi | you can try |
| 05:01.57 | nikitis | i wasn't sure if it was gcc related but if it is, that may be my problem |
| 05:01.57 | FredwardTheGreat | did you upgrade gcc ? |
| 05:02.11 | nikitis | i did an aptitude update then upgrade |
| 05:02.16 | nikitis | before I do tasksel |
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| 05:02.33 | nikitis | i did not upgrade gcc |
| 05:02.33 | FredwardTheGreat | did you upgrade gcc related but i need additional pylons. |
| 05:02.59 | nikitis | so I should write my script to upgrade gcc |
| 05:03.21 | nikitis | in a debootstrapped environ, best recommended way to do that? |
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| 05:03.32 | nikitis | i could enable experimental repo |
| 05:03.37 | nikitis | download 4.7 |
| 05:03.44 | nikitis | then remove |
| 05:04.02 | nikitis | wise? Any other recommeneded methods? |
| 05:04.56 | pepi | tell me when this bug appears? |
| 05:05.10 | nikitis | during make of kernel |
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| 05:05.37 | pepi | kernel/signal.c ? |
| 05:05.44 | nikitis | yes |
| 05:06.11 | nikitis | i had another issue where system clock was set for 2006 |
| 05:06.12 | FredwardTheGreat | time for a month to build the pylons just happen to this at first run in wubi, or is an atheros issue is not how many diff 1 blocks (shares) that are sent in |
| 05:06.36 | nikitis | and was getting future errors, but i'm running it now with new date set |
| 05:06.41 | nikitis | to rule that out |
| 05:07.45 | pepi | http://pastie.org/3632769 |
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| 05:08.32 | nikitis | yes |
| 05:08.57 | nikitis | but i don't understand what it does |
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| 05:10.05 | nikitis | interesting, i see now it's unpacking linux-libc-dev_2.6.32-41_powerpc.deb |
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| 05:10.10 | pepi | it is changes in your kernel/signal.c and this one which one can work for you |
| 05:10.50 | nikitis | i would need a later one no? |
| 05:10.52 | pepi | sorry for my poor english |
| 05:11.03 | nikitis | oh you changed it |
| 05:11.22 | pepi | not me |
| 05:11.27 | pepi | my friend :D |
| 05:11.44 | nikitis | so i just replace it somehow? |
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| 05:11.54 | pepi | aye |
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| 05:14.48 | pepi | f**k me out! I'm helping you guys use debian where some how I betray my lovely gentoo |
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| 05:18.56 | laidback_01_ | I have what I think is an ethical question. could be just a naive security question too... I've noticed that the vast majority of my invalid login attempts come out of China, Singapore, N/S Korea, and Japan. A large amount of my email spam comes from Brazil, and some countries from the African continent. I'm tired of this stuff. So.. if I set my firewall to block connections from entire continental ranges, is this a fa |
| 05:18.56 | laidback_01_ | ux pas? or is this just good and well-know security practice? |
| 05:20.27 | Shadur | laidback_01_: It's slightly overkill. |
| 05:20.55 | xuser | pepi: why did you betrayed it? |
| 05:20.55 | Shadur | I'd recommend something like fail2ban |
| 05:20.56 | somiaj | laidback_01_: depends on your server and what you want to do with it. I would suggest something like fail2ban or denyhost that will just block any host that fails to login via ssh 3 times in a row |
| 05:21.06 | somiaj | laidback_01_: as for spam, a good spamfilter is your best bet |
| 05:21.14 | xuser | laidback_01_: that is well know not to do security paratice |
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| 05:22.44 | laidback_01_ | hmm... fail2ban, spam filters. i've got these in place already. I use postfix and amavis, and maia. however, if I stop the annoying country from even connecting to my mail server, then... well, amavis and maia are left to deal with spam from the UK and US... |
| 05:23.01 | laidback_01_ | xuser, why? I'm curious as to the reason. |
| 05:23.05 | pepi | cos its more clear |
| 05:23.51 | laidback_01_ | I'm really *not* trying to troll. I'm very interested in the reason(s) a person should not use their firewall as a crude instrument, and then ssh rules, and spam solutions as the fine-grained tools. |
| 05:23.53 | pepi | imap or pop3 ? |
| 05:24.18 | somiaj | laidback_01_: what is the purpose of your server? |
| 05:24.46 | laidback_01_ | somiaj: personal server, email, web, blog, host sites for friends, and maybe a couple of paying clients |
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| 05:25.00 | laidback_01_ | at most 10 clients - just to diffuse cost of server. |
| 05:25.22 | pepi | my server give you ssh irssi ekg2 finch etc, ninja allowed, no to abuser's |
| 05:25.33 | xuser | laidback_01_: that's the nazi way of doing it |
| 05:25.34 | FredwardTheGreat | that's exactly as broke as the .exe ; doing this one which one of my home was worth about hassle |
| 05:25.59 | somiaj | laidback_01_: yea you don't want to block major ip ranges if you have people who want to share their webpages |
| 05:26.16 | MestreLion | Hello Everyone! For pure curiosity: does anyone have a rough estimative of how large would be a Debian system (let's say stable) if one installed ALL available (non-conflicting) packages? |
| 05:26.46 | MestreLion | Just for the fun of having "the WHOLE Debian system installed" |
| 05:26.58 | pepi | laidback_01_: can I have just simple account by ssh ? |
| 05:27.07 | pepi | ]:-> |
| 05:27.15 | laidback_01_ | somiaj: hmm, I see that point as well, however, given that our intended audience would be english speaking, and probably from geographically connected areas (US, Canada) etc |
| 05:27.43 | laidback_01_ | pepi, I use freebsd, everyone of my clients is fully jailed. |
| 05:27.48 | MestreLion | what would it be? 150GB ? much more? much less? |
| 05:28.13 | somiaj | laidback_01_: there are just better ways to achive what you are doing. Maybe block port 22 (ssh) for everyone except trusted hosts, but allow things like port 80 to be seen by everyone. |
| 05:28.22 | pepi | MestreLion: about max 4GB with very very full list of apps |
| 05:28.39 | antiisolo | does squeeze 6.0.4 have any known issues for trying to dual with win7? last time I tried (sometime mid lastyr) when trying to dual with win7, debian wasnt installing a bootloader..when i installed it on its own dedicated hdd, it asked to isntall grub and everything, but when i did it with win7, nothing.. |
| 05:28.50 | pepi | laidback_01_: just jail ? |
| 05:29.18 | somiaj | antiisolo: debian works just fine dualbooting with win7, just make sure you install debian second and configure the bootloader correct |
| 05:29.18 | FredwardTheGreat | i don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to the correct value ? |
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| 05:29.48 | pepi | any access to gcc python/perl and debbuger like gdb? |
| 05:30.04 | MestreLion | pepi: It can't be only 4GB... I mean, my current, almost fresh 6.04 already takes almost 5GB |
| 05:30.04 | FredwardTheGreat | hes almost right |
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| 05:30.41 | laidback_01_ | pepi: yes, it's a jail. full freebsd environment. full access to a ports collection. so... gcc, perl, ruby, php, whatever. databases, etc. |
| 05:31.22 | antiisolo | somiaj thanks |
| 05:31.34 | pepi | MestreLion: clear your temp folders by apt-get autoclean or something like that |
| 05:31.44 | laidback_01_ | I'm asking questions about ethics in the debian channel, cause you folks are noted for it. not asking tech questions about freebsd here, don't want anyone getting confused by that. |
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| 05:32.45 | laidback_01_ | somiaj: thanks for your input, btw |
| 05:32.45 | MestreLion | pepi: I don't think 30.000+ installed packages would fit 5GB |
| 05:33.14 | antiisolo | does debian have any issues with i5 quadcores? |
| 05:33.44 | pepi | try testing |
| 05:33.44 | FredwardTheGreat | line 255 of control for long enough and try upgrade gcc |
| 05:33.50 | pepi | always works |
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| 05:34.34 | pepi | but you must just believe it |
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| 05:35.24 | pepi | laidback_01_: it is imaps or pop3s ? |
| 05:36.29 | laidback_01_ | pepi: well, the mail server I've built supplies imaps and pop3s, but no imap or pop3 |
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| 05:38.10 | pepi | laidback_01_: it is always good idea to ask uncle google |
| 05:38.20 | pepi | better then me |
| 05:38.20 | afidegnum | hello, anyone knows where should I configure my useDNS settings ? |
| 05:38.22 | pepi | http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/06/iptables-rules-examples/ |
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| 05:38.25 | FredwardTheGreat | qazjap11 |
| 05:39.02 | pepi | FredwardTheGreat: sound like identify fail |
| 05:39.02 | FredwardTheGreat | if we generaly fail on install 11.10, yes |
| 05:39.09 | laidback_01_ | pepi Oh, now i see why you were playing 20 questions! heh, no issue, I've got a pretty good mail server. thanks for the tips though! |
| 05:39.37 | pepi | always use your iptables |
| 05:39.58 | pepi | if dont help use failtoban or similar |
| 05:39.58 | FredwardTheGreat | is there a dsp client similar to java devepment in a file or is the pastebuffer in a file has changed, not working.. |
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| 05:40.51 | pepi | FredwardTheGreat: please paste your problem |
| 05:40.51 | FredwardTheGreat | jon--: so the actual problem is that you prolly are on ps3 |
| 05:41.11 | Qazjap11 | FredwardTheGreat, ? |
| 05:41.11 | FredwardTheGreat | fredwardthegreat, |
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| 05:42.03 | npx | i pity this lost soul who keeps using my nick |
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| 05:42.55 | npx | Anyway - I'm running Ubuntu (ugh) from a Wubi installation (ugh) and I want to install Debian on this 20gb repair partition (yum) |
| 05:43.25 | npx | Is there any easy way to accomplish this? The repair partition is /dev/sda1 and I'm thinking, you know, I could use debootstrap and install grub and fire it up |
| 05:44.17 | pepi | Y U ALL NO USE any ident? its shame to use linux/unix and have ~ before your nick |
| 05:44.17 | FredwardTheGreat | can u help me to it! |
| 05:45.17 | npx | Dear Internet, how 2 install Debian from Ubuntu with no CD or USB stick? |
| 05:46.16 | npx | this godless Unity shit is making me suicidal |
| 05:46.51 | laidback_01_ | npx: do you have another partition to work with? |
| 05:46.51 | FredwardTheGreat | at bayonet point and create new partition |
| 05:47.14 | npx | laidback_01_, yeah /dev/sda1 is a 20gig repair partition currently formatted NTFS |
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| 05:47.35 | laidback_01_ | if you have either another hard drive in your machine, or another empty (large enough) partition, you can install debian to a chroot there, and then have grub point at it |
| 05:47.35 | FredwardTheGreat | id do know there was trying to port 22 (ssh) for everyone always wanted to conquer everyone except bash even one of those either |
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| 05:48.13 | npx | laidback_01_, How can I install using a chroot? debootstrap? |
| 05:48.25 | laidback_01_ | you'd setup your chroot and bootstrap debian into it. Google for that - debian chroot bootstrap - I upgraded a RHEL machine a few years ago with this method |
| 05:48.25 | FredwardTheGreat | did you have either another nose hair as a test, just installed kubuntu on a few forum posts online with the bottles |
| 05:50.00 | pepi | npx: I can tell you how to install gentoo by using a simple ubuntu live cd :D its like ninja mode but you can achieve it :D hyhyhy |
| 05:50.36 | pepi | for chroot its simple |
| 05:50.40 | laidback_01_ | npx: yeah, it's debootstrap. I'm looking at google now, mostly it's how to setup xen jails and other VMs, but the idea is the same - just use a different kernel.... |
| 05:50.40 | FredwardTheGreat | sorry for my home files mostly moved, but signal.c errors on on cc kernel/signal.o during compile |
| 05:50.55 | pepi | prepare your dis by fdisk or cfdisk |
| 05:51.05 | pepi | mount partition |
| 05:51.11 | pepi | mount /dev |
| 05:51.16 | npx | laidback_01_, yeah debootstrap is running now, this was easy mode |
| 05:51.16 | FredwardTheGreat | laidback_01_, how im glad :) ok |
| 05:51.17 | pepi | mount /proc |
| 05:51.58 | npx | forgot to specify --arch amd64 |
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| 05:53.13 | npx | i don't know if using amd64 is actually a good idea on this Atom processor |
| 05:53.16 | npx | but what the hell |
| 05:53.16 | FredwardTheGreat | well, the mail server and what gpu? |
| 05:53.21 | laidback_01_ | well, I'm off to sleep |
| 05:53.21 | FredwardTheGreat | i normally goof off to be seen that. |
| 05:53.24 | laidback_01_ | good luck! |
| 05:53.42 | pepi | than chroot, download folder tree make kernel, install for example grub or make changes in existing grub.conf or in your other boot manager and you have very basic debian linux |
| 05:53.42 | FredwardTheGreat | very basic mode |
| 05:54.22 | pepi | npx: what atom exactly ? |
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| 05:54.38 | npx | 1.6ghz dual core with hyperthreading, 1mb cache, I forget the model |
| 05:54.46 | npx | it's fairly quick tbh |
| 05:56.01 | pepi | npx: cat /proc/cpuinfo | 'paste' where paste is your paste app |
| 05:56.07 | pepi | show me it |
| 05:56.39 | npx | Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2600 @ 1.60GHz |
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| 05:57.15 | npx | i like this debootstrap approach, I want a really minimal setup with ratpoison etc |
| 05:57.38 | npx | don't even want to fire up a bunch of ttys when the system starts |
| 05:58.43 | npx | i want this thing to FLY when I put an SSD and another gb of ram in it |
| 05:59.14 | npx | wonders if a 4gb SODIMM will work |
| 05:59.51 | pepi | npx: it will make you more safe and as we know 64 bin OS are way faster than 32 |
| 06:00.25 | pepi | npx: yes use amd64 |
| 06:00.25 | FredwardTheGreat | diablo-d3, was just trying to specify --arch amd64 |
| 06:01.01 | npx | oh jeez |
| 06:01.07 | npx | i can't run 64 bit binaries from this 32 bit kernel hahaha |
| 06:01.07 | FredwardTheGreat | eventually we know 64 bin os are way to set up the credit card |
| 06:01.23 | npx | facepalms |
| 06:02.02 | pepi | bit* |
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| 06:02.39 | blue52 | whats uup |
| 06:03.07 | pepi | npx: make your make.conf work for it |
| 06:04.29 | JeremiahONe-6c97 | hello |
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| 06:05.03 | npx | pepi, make.conf? i |
| 06:05.03 | FredwardTheGreat | pepi, i don't think i am, hey... |
| 06:05.12 | npx | i think that's a BSD thing, heh |
| 06:05.27 | pepi | heh |
| 06:05.36 | pepi | not only BSD |
| 06:06.18 | pepi | /etc/make.conf ? |
| 06:06.44 | npx | i don't want to compile anything on this machine |
| 06:08.05 | pepi | so go back to M$ shitware |
| 06:08.56 | pepi | or you gonna learn something about your linux or not :p |
| 06:08.56 | FredwardTheGreat | what in ubuntu): go to #bash and ask for 3.2.11 kernel for debian into the list of 100 people whom i might be when the brain doesnt give a markov chainer, gonna google it |
| 06:09.40 | npx | i'm just going to save a bunch of time and effort and install the i386 build of debian |
| 06:09.40 | FredwardTheGreat | it will save you a lot of 100 people whom i dont know |
| 06:09.54 | npx | since i only have 1gb of ram i don't think it matters much |
| 06:10.20 | pepi | 1GB its lots of |
| 06:10.33 | npx | i'm really not sure i can run the 32-bit ubuntu userland with a 64-bit kernel anyway |
| 06:10.45 | npx | too much work to attempt for too little return |
| 06:10.58 | Crooks_mobile | npx not that much work |
| 06:11.05 | somiaj | npx: if you want ubuntu support /join #ubuntu |
| 06:11.05 | FredwardTheGreat | it's been in #ubuntu stuff and sell |
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| 06:12.53 | pepi | simple xserver + openbox will eat max 70MB of your memory depending of what kind of services you wanna run during boot |
| 06:13.07 | npx | somiaj, I don't |
| 06:13.20 | npx | just trying to get debian installed, I don't have a cd-rom drive or a flash drive handy |
| 06:13.20 | FredwardTheGreat | ftg2: usb flash drive and a usb flash drive large would be disabling 802.11 n it's not working.. |
| 06:14.18 | Crooks_mobile | npx debootstrap will work w/o any disks. pretty straightforward process |
| 06:14.45 | npx | Crooks_mobile, my problem was that I'm running a 32-bit kernel and it tried to execute a 64-bit binary when it chroot'd into the new install to set it up |
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| 06:16.05 | npx | should go smoothly this time |
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| 06:17.08 | pepi | set up make.conf for amd64 and than install, for me it is only possible way |
| 06:17.25 | npx | this is actually kinda nicer than using that goodbye-microsoft installer because I can copy over the firmware for my wifi/ethernet |
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| 06:18.22 | somiaj | npx: do you have a linux install and an extra partition? |
| 06:18.22 | FredwardTheGreat | npx: it will make one great |
| 06:18.24 | Crooks_mobile | i prefer installing from debootstrap/chroot. you end up with a nice clean install |
| 06:18.24 | FredwardTheGreat | f**k me connection issues for trying to get debian wasnt installing a bootloader..when i see that one coming |
| 06:18.42 | npx | somiaj, I got it under control now I think |
| 06:18.55 | npx | debootstrap is running |
| 06:19.52 | npx | i went slow Windows 7 crapware -> ultra slow Ubuntu crapware via disk image on NTFS -> Debian on a partition |
| 06:22.03 | npx | now i need to install/setup grub |
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| 06:22.38 | FredwardTheGreat | bn` |
| 06:22.47 | npx | i wonder if i can chainload grub from the windows bootloader, that way I'll be able to get back into this Ubuntu install in case i mess this up somehow... |
| 06:22.55 | npx | google-fu, go! |
| 06:23.22 | bn` | ? |
| 06:23.22 | FredwardTheGreat | actually i need to upgrade gcc ? |
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| 06:23.38 | GorillaPatch | is it possible to use llvm as the default compiler on Debian squeeze? |
| 06:23.38 | FredwardTheGreat | this looks like it might still be off by default |
| 06:23.53 | npx | GorillaPatch, you can just set CC and CXX to clang |
| 06:24.13 | GorillaPatch | npx: sounds too easy |
| 06:24.48 | npx | GorillaPatch, It won't compile everything yet but you can try |
| 06:24.52 | GorillaPatch | what about binary compatibility with already installed shared libraries? do I manually have to maintain a GCC and a llvm version? |
| 06:25.17 | npx | nope, the ABI is compatible with a few baroque exceptions if you're using Objective-C |
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| 06:25.38 | npx | I think there may be some problems with C++-0x libraries too but i'm not sure |
| 06:27.11 | GorillaPatch | right c++0x is not fully supported yet |
| 06:27.46 | GorillaPatch | would you recommend installing it directly from the llvm's homepage or is there a package for that? |
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| 06:28.18 | npx | I'd leave that up to you, it's pretty easy to make .deb packages from the upstream sources if you want to |
| 06:28.32 | npx | or you can just install to /opt or whatever |
| 06:28.32 | FredwardTheGreat | and whatever |
| 06:28.54 | GorillaPatch | OK. thanks npx! I would up vote you if I could... |
| 06:28.54 | FredwardTheGreat | ok |
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| 06:31.39 | npx | okay so I installed grub with in my new debootstrap installation but /boot/grub is totally empty |
| 06:31.57 | npx | why am i not using lilo...? |
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| 06:45.45 | npx | do I need an entry for /dev in /etc/fstab? |
| 06:45.58 | npx | vim highlights devfs in read as if to taunt me for my silliness |
| 06:45.58 | FredwardTheGreat | yea i read latre etc |
| 06:46.05 | npx | red* |
| 06:47.28 | Crooks_mobile | npx yes |
| 06:47.28 | FredwardTheGreat | npx wonders if a linux install and as i am, hey... |
| 06:47.44 | Crooks_mobile | dev and proc |
| 06:48.44 | lasers | Anybody have experiences with Autofs? I simply can't get it to work. :| |
| 06:48.58 | npx | and sysfs! |
| 06:48.59 | FredwardTheGreat | keshi you wish people you and just logged back that it up |
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| 06:56.32 | npx | any issue with using a PAE kernel on a system with 1gb of RAM? |
| 06:56.51 | npx | i just want to use the 3.2 i686 RT image and there isn't one without PAE |
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| 06:59.07 | maurer | I'm looking to install debian on a new laptop. Is there any way for me to get the iwlwifi firmware on the install media so that I don't need to install a minimal system, reboot, do a usb stick transfer, dpkg -i, then install the whole system? |
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| 07:01.45 | geekou | maurer: you can manually modprobe your driver for your wifi |
| 07:01.52 | geekou | (you still need a USB transfert) |
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| 07:03.35 | npx | grub-install (hd0,0) will install to /dev/sda ? |
| 07:03.35 | FredwardTheGreat | its always /dev/sda or http://ubuntuforums.org or pop3 ? |
| 07:05.23 | lkthomas | anyone running kvm? what software do you use to control a cluster of KVM ? |
| 07:05.23 | FredwardTheGreat | i failed it under control for long enough |
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| 07:05.59 | lopret | hey guys |
| 07:06.17 | Crooks_mobile | Is fred a bot or something? nonsensical gibberish |
| 07:06.39 | lopret | i want to ask about external passwords |
| 07:06.39 | FredwardTheGreat | tau: you makeup nonsense, steal passwords by asking favours and getting people can't rob you wirelessly, jackass? |
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| 07:07.36 | lopret | i want to code an external password system and execute it in when system services loaded |
| 07:07.55 | lopret | and i want to if password module is deactivated |
| 07:08.03 | lopret | do not run some commands |
| 07:08.08 | lopret | else run commands |
| 07:08.08 | FredwardTheGreat | she's not run some commands |
| 07:08.14 | npx | lopret, this isn't really a development channel |
| 07:08.31 | npx | and your question is bad tbh, you need to do a better job of explaining what you're doing |
| 07:08.46 | lopret | how can get the development channel |
| 07:08.46 | FredwardTheGreat | brianp1992: from where snerd's aesthetic development channel |
| 07:08.56 | npx | ##c |
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| 07:10.16 | lopret | FredwardTheGreat: can you say the same ? |
| 07:10.21 | npx | http://pastebin.ca/2130303 - anyone see any glaring errors with this fstab? |
| 07:10.33 | npx | lopret, /j #c |
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| 07:11.02 | npx | eh fuggetiaboutit, I'll just try to boot and let the chips fall where they may |
| 07:11.02 | FredwardTheGreat | they fall |
| 07:11.17 | lopret | invite-only. |
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| 07:11.42 | lopret | FredwardTheGreat: and you 2 |
| 07:11.42 | FredwardTheGreat | tau: i don't play tf2 joke turned into sc 2 d: |
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| 07:15.47 | FredwardTheGreat | bennz |
| 07:16.10 | BenNZ | FredwardTheGreat: hello? |
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| 07:22.06 | Milos|Netbook | Starting vnStat daemon: vnstatdZero database found, exiting. |
| 07:22.06 | Milos|Netbook | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.12 | Milos|Netbook | What does this mean? |
| 07:22.16 | Milos|Netbook | I got it while trying to do apt-get install vnstat |
| 07:22.35 | Milos|Netbook | Oh, it's just not layed out nicely. |
| 07:22.54 | Milos|Netbook | should be a new line between vnstatd and "zero database found" |
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| 07:23.20 | Milos|Netbook | How can I stop debian from trying to start everything that has a daemon immediately after install? |
| 07:23.20 | FredwardTheGreat | jerck: hey… use linux/unix and have local versions that are immediately recognizable as the dual boot. |
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| 07:25.54 | tziOm | I have a problem with the way fonts look in debian (Anonymous Pro font in particular) Point is I used to have ubuntu and the same font. Now I installed debian, all the same configs (Xdefault for urxvt), but the font really dont look as should.. |
| 07:26.12 | tziOm | Its the correct font, just artisfacts and.. |
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| 07:29.07 | FredwardTheGreat | darkelfjuggalo |
| 07:29.40 | lopret | i am gonna shut FredwardTheGreat |
| 07:29.40 | FredwardTheGreat | if you're shut out from society |
| 07:30.01 | lopret | i am gonna shoot FredwardTheGreat |
| 07:30.01 | FredwardTheGreat | i am gonna google it |
| 07:30.07 | lopret | i am gonna shoot FredwardTheGreat |
| 07:30.25 | lopret | and he gone away :D |
| 07:30.25 | FredwardTheGreat | do i gone when i had another partition |
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| 07:38.15 | howardstern | hello, is there an easy way to append all ascii files called *.m into one large file using some command? |
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| 07:38.42 | Crooks_mobile | cat *.m > somefile |
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| 07:40.51 | Crooks_mobile | will virtualbox run over X forwarding? |
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| 07:46.34 | sabgenton | if I install a dependency with dpkg -s bladep.deb then run apt-get install thing_that_needs_that_dep |
| 07:46.36 | sabgenton | will it pick up bladep? |
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| 07:52.56 | FredwardTheGreat | npx yes |
| 07:53.13 | npx | so... are there any web browsers that don't require gconf and dbus and all this silly shit? |
| 07:53.13 | FredwardTheGreat | java web attack installs 4.4 |
| 07:53.50 | npx | i wont lie, i'm starting to nerdrage a little bit |
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| 07:56.07 | npx | anyone? web browser without a trillion external dependencies? |
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| 07:56.17 | gnarface | lynx? |
| 07:56.29 | npx | i see what you did there |
| 07:56.30 | cpx | hi all, i just managed to hide my title bar when I maximize my windows and I want to bring it back |
| 07:56.42 | dancek | , elinks, links2, w3m... |
| 07:56.48 | cpx | but unortunately it wont get back , i tried everything |
| 07:56.51 | gnarface | i'm pretty mad about gconf and dbus too npx |
| 07:57.18 | cpx | remove --purge , dconf , delete .themes , /usr/share/themes, create new user and log with it |
| 07:57.18 | FredwardTheGreat | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.24 | cpx | nothing helps |
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| 07:59.10 | cpx | is it possible to reset gnome on debian ? |
| 07:59.21 | cpx | to it's starting point |
| 07:59.41 | npx | want to install a browser? LOL INSTALL ALL GNOME DEPENDENCIES |
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| 08:00.39 | cpx | i tried to remove and purge gnome |
| 08:00.41 | cpx | nothing happens |
| 08:00.41 | FredwardTheGreat | it happens a lot of problems in the reason(s) a girl, guy. |
| 08:00.47 | Musaab_ | purge gnome??? |
| 08:00.52 | Musaab_ | IMPOSSIBLE |
| 08:01.00 | cpx | why |
| 08:01.01 | FredwardTheGreat | why i dismissed this word doesnt make you were a usb pen drive to boot/install or pop3 |
| 08:01.17 | cpx | i want to completely remove and purge gnome |
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| 08:01.41 | npx | i love this shit man, i didn't realize this was the current state of affairs in linux |
| 08:01.58 | npx | "you can use any desktop environment you want, even a totally lightweight one like ratpoison" |
| 08:01.58 | threadlock | why the silly chatter bot? |
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| 08:02.13 | npx | "oh btw you need to install the entirety of gnome or kde if you want a browser lol gg" |
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| 08:03.57 | npx | does webkit itself depend on QT or GTK? |
| 08:03.57 | FredwardTheGreat | it does it burn images on the brain doesnt give a math test miles-teg. |
| 08:04.02 | npx | holy shit ban this bot |
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| 08:07.02 | npx | so i guess the question is, which one pulls in the least unnecessary bullshit? |
| 08:07.13 | npx | epiphany actually seems less terrible than chromium |
| 08:07.54 | dancek | npx, what about arora? |
| 08:07.54 | FredwardTheGreat | mestrelion: about ethics in the database. |
| 08:08.18 | gnarface | npx: fyi i believe that only happens to you if you have any gnome or kde installed - without them things like iceweasel pull in much less |
| 08:08.19 | lasers | link2 ? |
| 08:08.20 | dancek | arora pulls some of qt but doesn't look like all of it |
| 08:08.20 | FredwardTheGreat | does webkit itself depend on qt or gtk? |
| 08:08.30 | lasers | lynx --dump ? |
| 08:08.42 | npx | saying lynx isn't clever |
| 08:08.50 | npx | it's like lowest common denominator nerd humor |
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| 08:09.18 | npx | checks out arora |
| 08:09.36 | dancek | npx, also midori and dillo might be relevant |
| 08:09.54 | gnarface | wonders why in the hell npx is running gnome in the first place if he hates bloat |
| 08:09.54 | dancek | oh, dillo isn't in debian anymore |
| 08:10.22 | npx | i'm not running gnome |
| 08:10.25 | npx | are you insane? |
| 08:10.29 | npx | i can't stand that shit |
| 08:10.29 | FredwardTheGreat | ti c64x dsps just have to stand in it |
| 08:10.43 | npx | it's become a legit abomination |
| 08:10.55 | gnarface | it was that in 1999 |
| 08:10.56 | FredwardTheGreat | calistaf sends out the probe to build but it was a muslim, according to an idol as thick as a room with in my new debootstrap installation but is a psychologist student but didnt know that looks interesting |
| 08:11.27 | npx | arora looks like a winner |
| 08:11.38 | gnarface | !ops FredwardTheGreat some annoying gibbering bot |
| 08:11.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: gnarface complains about: FredwardTheGreat some annoying gibbering bot |
| 08:12.33 | npx | i hope that bot becomes sentient and dedicates itself to inconveniencing the guy who invented pulseaudio for the rest of his natural life |
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| 08:12.41 | gnarface | haha |
| 08:12.59 | gnarface | yea i don't like pulse audio either. it breaks my alsa install every time something accidentally pulls it in |
| 08:13.26 | gnarface | i suppose everything has its purpose though |
| 08:13.32 | npx | no, pulse is retarded |
| 08:13.48 | npx | truly facepalm worthy |
| 08:13.48 | FredwardTheGreat | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.48 | kripz | is it possible to image a live system? running ext4 and no lvm |
| 08:15.41 | npx | yeahhhh, arora is alright. |
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| 08:16.34 | pmurias | what could change my lan ip adress? |
| 08:16.39 | gnarface | kripz: traditionally you'd use tar. ldap databases and mysql databases may not back up cleanly this way though so you might want to use their native tools to generate snapshots |
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| 08:17.01 | gnarface | pmurias: dhcp |
| 08:17.04 | pmurias | i'm suppling all the info staticly |
| 08:17.14 | gnarface | pmurias: how sure are you of that? |
| 08:17.14 | FredwardTheGreat | pmurias: dhcp |
| 08:17.24 | pmurias | pasting |
| 08:17.27 | gnarface | pmurias: you running network manager? |
| 08:17.40 | pmurias | http://pastie.org/3633396 |
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| 08:18.27 | pmurias | gnarface: it's not even installed |
| 08:18.27 | FredwardTheGreat | i just installed all available (non-conflicting) packages? |
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| 08:18.49 | pmurias | the change happens after a few hours |
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| 08:19.10 | pmurias | /etc/network/interfaces doesn't change |
| 08:19.25 | pmurias | and ifdown eth0;ifup eth0 |
| 08:19.35 | pmurias | fixes everything |
| 08:19.35 | FredwardTheGreat | well a fat loser who believes in everything else out there and were causing trouble, and an entry to a girl talked about relationships, divorce and whatever |
| 08:19.43 | gnarface | pmurias: you sure you're not running network-manager or something similar? and you're sure its your ip that changes (you're verifying with ifconfig) not your resolv.conf? |
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| 08:20.23 | pmurias | i'm verifing it with ifconfig -a |
| 08:20.50 | npx | arora is sweet; the support for us keyboard cowboys is a thing of beauty |
| 08:21.06 | npx | that fn key for disabling the touchpad... it's sexy |
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| 08:25.11 | Mmike | is there a way to make usermod NOT change current group ownership for a particular user? I'm doing this: usermod -g maingroup -G oldgroup someuser |
| 08:25.22 | Mmike | and after that all the user files are now owned by maingroup |
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| 08:51.37 | arvind_khadri | FredwardTheGreat, ya |
| 08:51.37 | FredwardTheGreat | fredwardthegreat, ? |
| 08:52.17 | arvind_khadri | You called my name. So I replied |
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| 08:52.30 | klawd | hi! |
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| 08:52.58 | klawd | can i prepend a string when i pass the contents of a file with indirection? (foo < bar) |
| 08:52.59 | FredwardTheGreat | i didnt see that someone placed in ubuntu): go to pass on |
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| 08:55.24 | Ghrim | Is there an iceweasel nightly? |
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| 09:02.09 | guardian | hi guys, i'm looking for a RAID1 SATA dedicated controller that works well with debian. we're going to plug 2 SATA SSDs on it. any recommendation? |
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| 09:05.41 | linduxed | my server tells me that my /home has gone read only |
| 09:06.07 | linduxed | and when i do mount -o remount it tells me that it's mounted read-only due to it being write protected ? |
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| 09:10.18 | linduxed | shit, mount -o remount,rw doesn't work either |
| 09:10.18 | FredwardTheGreat | that sailor is typical of completely irrational shit, and more for it all will go to class |
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| 09:14.34 | Woet | silly FredwardTheGreat |
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| 09:17.20 | philipp | what bootloader is debian testing useing? |
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| 09:18.57 | babilen | philipp: Depends on the architecture and your selection, but you can expect it to be grub2 in "default" cases. |
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| 09:23.12 | philipp | than god babilen u are exactly that miracle i need right now <3 |
| 09:23.35 | philipp | i upgreaded to testing and it shot my boot loader |
| 09:24.03 | klys | philipp: what does it boot to? |
| 09:24.37 | philipp | well after that i installed a backup on the other harddrive of mine |
| 09:25.02 | philipp | and since then it boots |
| 09:25.24 | klys | you might be using LILO |
| 09:25.28 | philipp | and now i would like to reconfigure the bootloader so he realise both harddrives |
| 09:27.01 | philipp | it seems that currently he is takeing the bootloader from sda and starting the os on sdb with it... did not even know its possible |
| 09:27.06 | babilen | philipp: If you are using grub2, try "update-grub2 ; grub-install /dev/sdX" (where sdX is a block device like sda (*not* sda1 or other partitions)) |
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| 09:28.53 | philipp | i am near crying and 2 min with you and all is fixed :D |
| 09:29.06 | philipp | well i restart it now to test it brb |
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| 09:37.12 | afuentes | how do you know what package i have installed that is providing me a virtual package? |
| 09:37.40 | philipp | babilen, i added /dev/sdb in the list and now it finds the system on /dev/sda.... thats odd |
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| 09:38.51 | philipp | babilen, okey need 1 more thing... how do i edit the bootlist manually so i can set a useful default and delete useless entrys |
| 09:39.03 | woshty | is there a non-sudo way to call s2ram as a normal user? |
| 09:40.15 | philipp | woshty, can you do it as root? just type "su" and press enter... |
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| 09:41.49 | woshty | philipp: i want to execute it with a shortcut, maybe from a script that locks the workstation, then suspends to ram |
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| 09:42.49 | philipp | woshty, you can give the script +s privileges "chmod +s |
| 09:44.01 | sephii | what should I install on testing to get java applets to work in iceweasel with openjdk? icedtea? |
| 09:44.27 | woshty | philipp: yes, i will do that. i thought there might have been some special debian way. |
| 09:44.32 | woshty | philipp: thx |
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| 09:45.27 | philipp | sephii, the best working one is java-sun whatever, the safest one is icetea.... thats a choice you gonna have to do but i recommend the one from sun |
| 09:45.35 | philipp | g2reboot brb |
| 09:46.04 | sephii | philipp: sun-java* is not in the repos anymore afaik |
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| 09:48.28 | bvierra | hey all hoping someone can help me with an issue I am having reguarding unixODBC and SQLBase. I think I have it tracked down via doing an LD_DEBUG=files and it is reporting an undefined symbol: gconv_end in ISO8859-1.so |
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| 09:50.12 | philipp | someone know how to edit the boot entrys in grub manually? |
| 09:51.14 | DelTree | philipp: in grub2, you just don't... what is it you want to achieve ? |
| 09:51.43 | woshty | DelTree: lol |
| 09:52.01 | Woet | philipp: nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 09:52.03 | Woet | for grub 2 |
| 09:52.09 | philipp | yes |
| 09:52.14 | DelTree | gr8... |
| 09:52.27 | DelTree | and next kernel update your edits are lost... |
| 09:52.55 | Woet | DelTree: so how do you change the default kernel to boot? |
| 09:53.33 | DelTree | Woet: /etc/default/grub, and you change GRUB_DEFAULT |
| 09:54.00 | Woet | oh, i see. i was confused with grub 1 then |
| 09:54.21 | DelTree | grub legacy's file was menu.lst |
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| 10:02.58 | SLFCore | anyone tried debian wheezy? |
| 10:04.33 | Woet | no, SLFCore, you would be the first. |
| 10:04.56 | SLFCore | i am already using debian wheezy testing version |
| 10:05.02 | SLFCore | sad news is that they switched to gnome 3 |
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| 10:05.37 | NoOova | hello all! how FQDN is searched? |
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| 10:07.23 | epsilon | eh? |
| 10:07.31 | sephii | NoOova: your question is very vague, what do you mean by that? are you talking about dns resolution? |
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| 10:18.43 | mau22 | Hi |
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| 10:20.07 | mau22 | I have DEBIAN5 configured with LILO bootloader. Since pc doesn't boot anymore I need to set VERBOSE boot on... how can I do that? |
| 10:21.16 | philipp | someone know how to change boot priority in grub? |
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| 10:22.00 | SLFCore | please check this out for any grub problems - http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/ |
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| 10:23.10 | SLFCore | philipp: /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 10:23.23 | streuner_ | mau22: use a live-CD, chroot it, and run lilo -v |
| 10:23.57 | philipp | well the first row in that file is DO NOT EDIT... |
| 10:24.07 | DelTree | once again... /boot/grub/grub.cfg is made up by scripts and is *not* to be edited manually !! |
| 10:24.50 | SLFCore | then /etc/default/grub |
| 10:24.51 | mau22 | streuner_: there's no option parameter to be passed when choosing item from lilo menu? |
| 10:25.47 | philipp | SLFCore, nothing about a boot priority there |
| 10:25.48 | Whiskey | i just added a user whit adduser |
| 10:25.58 | Whiskey | but i can´t execute any programs whit the user, how do i fix that?= |
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| 10:27.08 | streuner_ | mau22: why should that help? |
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| 10:27.21 | eugenmayer | Hello, pdf2swf: error while loading shared libraries: libgif.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 10:27.29 | eugenmayer | while i have this: |
| 10:27.29 | eugenmayer | locate libgif.so.4 |
| 10:27.29 | eugenmayer | /usr/lib/libgif.so.4 |
| 10:27.30 | DelTree | philipp: "boot priority" ? |
| 10:27.42 | eugenmayer | Any ideas, what iam maybe dealing with? |
| 10:27.48 | streuner_ | judd, versions pdf2swf |
| 10:27.49 | judd | No package named 'pdf2swf' was found in i386. |
| 10:27.57 | philipp | DelTree, yes what grub starts when i not react wihin 3 sec |
| 10:28.18 | eugenmayer | streuner_: those are build form source, using checkinstall |
| 10:28.21 | DelTree | philipp: GRUB_DEFAULT |
| 10:29.06 | sephii | eugenmayer: try running ldconfig |
| 10:29.19 | eugenmayer | streuner_: building system was a x86 squeeze, that client is a ubuntu lucid x64, but i actually think that must be compat |
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| 10:29.39 | eugenmayer | checking the other squeeze clients to be sure thats not a ubuntu fiddle to not waste your time |
| 10:29.41 | streuner_ | eugenmayer: well, in this case just /j #ubuntu |
| 10:30.01 | streuner_ | eugenmayer: besides, swftools exists... |
| 10:30.09 | streuner_ | judd, versions swftools |
| 10:30.10 | judd | No package named 'swftools' was found in i386. |
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| 10:30.13 | eugenmayer | streuner_: old version, nonpatched. |
| 10:30.26 | eugenmayer | streuner_: basically useless version. |
| 10:30.37 | streuner_ | eugenmayer: http://packages.debian.org/sid/swftools |
| 10:31.13 | eugenmayer | streuner_: yes, iam on 0.9.1 with paches. Thats far beyond the current status ( far means, the results are crazy different ) |
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| 10:31.58 | eugenmayer | streuner_: ok, those packages are working under squeeze, so its a lucid ( ubuntu ) fiddle. Damn how i hate this hoster... |
| 10:32.18 | eugenmayer | Why the world cant be Debian only? :) |
| 10:33.48 | tralala | it is |
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| 10:33.59 | tralala | the part that matters anyway :-) |
| 10:34.25 | philipp | nope... grub compleatly ignores any change in that file -.- |
| 10:34.48 | DelTree | philipp: did you run update-grub ? |
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| 10:42.11 | philipp | okey works |
| 10:42.42 | philipp | can you tell me how i add /dev/sda to grub again? |
| 10:43.31 | DelTree | ?? |
| 10:44.10 | philipp | there was a command like grub-add /dev/sda but i cant freakin remember |
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| 10:45.06 | philipp | grub-install ffs -.- |
| 10:45.14 | philipp | why cant i remember a single command |
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| 10:46.01 | DelTree | :) |
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| 10:56.20 | davidgul | hi |
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| 10:59.46 | davidgul | I using Nomachine nx and i dont know how to set up the port. when i change the purt in the sshd_config file and try to lugin it saya authentication failed for user rex |
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| 11:03.44 | cybrhuman | How does KDM and GDM grant access to video and audio? I found one post mentioning /etc/security/ but I find nothing mentioning any service I know there. |
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| 11:07.22 | nsadmin | cybrhuman, it starts an x server |
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| 11:08.41 | LittleFool | Hello, im using debian6 and trying to compile my own kernel right now for hyper-v which works quite good but now the ext4 support is missing. in make menuconfig i checked the ext4 support anything missing? |
| 11:08.59 | cybrhuman | nsadmin: yes, but it also automaticly grants you video acceleration, which is not automatically by for example the loginmanager Slim. |
| 11:09.45 | tralala | LittleFool, maybe you didn't check it after all. What does grep EXT4 $srcpath/.config say? |
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| 11:10.37 | LittleFool | CONFIG_EXT4_FS=y |
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| 11:10.50 | themill | cybrhuman: I gather slim doesn't do a few things with consolekit. |
| 11:11.03 | LittleFool | and some more all with =y except for EXT4-DEBUG |
| 11:11.16 | tralala | LittleFool, and how do you know that the support is missing? |
| 11:11.22 | nsadmin | xdm (which is an x -client-) starts x probably as root, and then connects to the server as root |
| 11:11.45 | LittleFool | tralala: when i try to do "mount /dev/sdb1 /backup" it says "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext4'" |
| 11:11.47 | nsadmin | when you log into xdm, the server is restarted as the login user |
| 11:11.51 | themill | cybrhuman: "/msg dpkg desktop groups" may also help |
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| 11:12.44 | tralala | LittleFool, did you boot the correct kernel? Does mount need a newer version to support ext4? |
| 11:12.50 | nsadmin | and therefore that login user can start x clients to display on that server (because it's running as you) |
| 11:13.01 | cybrhuman | themill: so I should read up on consolekit then, ty :) |
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| 11:13.14 | LittleFool | tralala: wait maybe i didnt install it correctly, it worked with the default debian6 kernal before |
| 11:13.29 | themill | cybrhuman: I recall that there's a fairly sparse wiki page on this and also some bugs in the debian bts against slim for not doing this properly. |
| 11:13.59 | tralala | LittleFool, why are you compiling a kernel anyway? Nowadays that's considered uncool. |
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| 11:15.23 | LittleFool | tralala: the server is running under hyper-v r2 and i would like to use the "normal" network interface along with scsi and the hyper-v integration tools (which still dont work) |
| 11:17.09 | tralala | LittleFool, are you using kernel-package for building your kernel? |
| 11:17.31 | cybrhuman | themill: so avoid slim on multi computer environments and use some other slightly more sane loginmanager? ty |
| 11:17.37 | LittleFool | tralala: i downloaded the source from kernel.org |
| 11:18.26 | tralala | Ok, now are you using kernel-package for building your kernel? |
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| 11:18.54 | LittleFool | tralala: ok it works now i didnt install it correctly i guess. if you know how to install the module hv_utils would be great |
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| 11:19.17 | themill | !lightweight |
| 11:19.17 | dpkg | <mjg59> To a first approximation, when someone says "Lightweight" what they mean is "I don't understand the problems that the alternative solves". (http://mjg59.livejournal.com/136274.html) |
| 11:20.00 | themill | cybrhuman: ^^ yes... avoiding tools that claim that "lightweight" is one of their key features is my normal approach... I get bored with working around deficiencies and lack of features very quickly. |
| 11:20.44 | tralala | LittleFool, there are two tools in debian for compiling kernels and kernel modules |
| 11:20.56 | tralala | kernel-package and module-assistant |
| 11:21.03 | cybrhuman | themill: I can manage "lighweight" stuff on my personal computer, but in trying to admin several machines, then I want tools that does things correctly from the start :) |
| 11:21.08 | tralala | Use them - they will make your life much easier. |
| 11:21.08 | FredwardTheGreat | ah, that makes my life is going to cancer research in economic science? |
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| 11:22.30 | LittleFool | tralala: im not good at this and this is my first time so i followed a tutorial, dunno if i can post the link here |
| 11:22.30 | FredwardTheGreat | themill: so you might want to get java applets list at the link i sent you come to tasmania, then repeat for computer |
| 11:22.42 | davidgul | I using Nomachine nx and i dont know how to set up the port. when i change the purt in the sshd_config file and try to lugin it saya authentication failed for user rex |
| 11:22.58 | tralala | LittleFool, you can. |
| 11:23.03 | woshty | how would i say chmod g+s numerically? |
| 11:23.52 | DelTree | why would you say it numerically ? anyway... 2000... |
| 11:23.54 | tralala | is this bot blessed by the channel ops or has it sneaked up in here? |
| 11:23.54 | FredwardTheGreat | sailorreality you have any real bots here? |
| 11:23.56 | LittleFool | tralala: its this one http://www.administrator.info/wissen/Debian-6-unter-Hyper-V-R2-integrieren-181181.html worked great expect ext4 was missing untill now and i cant find the hyper-v utilities driver |
| 11:24.15 | themill | FredwardTheGreat: do you have a debian user support question that we can help you with? |
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| 11:27.08 | tralala | LittleFool, try this instead http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_kernel_2.6_compile_debian |
| 11:27.08 | FredwardTheGreat | aborigines are like they had aids, piss drunk the night before deciding to turn it didnt work instead of individual packages couldn't be counted as a 1st os you don't have bad english and gdm grant access to a ports collection |
| 11:27.19 | tralala | !ops FredwardTheGreat is a troll bot |
| 11:27.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: tralala complains about: FredwardTheGreat is a troll bot |
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| 11:27.32 | Pierri_Magazine | algum brasileiro no #canal |
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| 11:27.40 | themill | tralala: thanks. Already on it. |
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| 11:28.05 | tralala | themill, ah, I didn't know you were an op too |
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| 11:31.57 | tralala | LittleFool, also see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelCustomCompilation and http://wiki.debian.org/Modules |
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| 11:32.36 | LittleFool | tralala: thanks for the infos i will try that one out |
| 11:32.47 | tralala | LittleFool, you're welcome :-) |
| 11:33.03 | LittleFool | even if its "uncool" :-D |
| 11:33.35 | tralala | it is uncool but needed sometimes |
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| 11:34.48 | LittleFool | if it works in the end im happy with that :D |
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| 11:35.41 | mau22 | Hi. I'm trying to run CHROOT but I get the msg: chroot failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error any hint??? |
| 11:35.45 | woshty | DelTree: thx, i usually use numbers |
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| 11:37.15 | tralala | mau22, what does file $chrootpath/bin/bash say? |
| 11:37.29 | DelTree | woshty: using numbers with chmod is really less powerfull... |
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| 11:38.10 | tralala | it is just as powerful although harder for the user |
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| 11:38.53 | tralala | I stopped using numbers as soon as I learned ugo+-rwx |
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| 11:41.22 | woshty | DelTree: but it is shorter, and i am always lazy and try numbers first .. until i run into problems and switch to symbolic mode :) |
| 11:41.51 | klys | is going lenny -> wheezy right now |
| 11:42.04 | themill | klys: don't. Do lenny->squeeze first. |
| 11:42.13 | klys | why? |
| 11:42.31 | klys | do you remember an error? |
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| 11:42.55 | themill | klys: skip-upgrading isn't supported and is completely untested. You're likely to have problems with maintainer scripts not doing the right thing. |
| 11:42.57 | klys | backed up /var/lib/dpkg |
| 11:43.09 | DelTree | woshty: shorter ?! |
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| 11:45.28 | Naeblis | Hi, I'm having trouble insalling sbuild using apt-get. I get E:Unable to locate package error. |
| 11:45.28 | lasers` | I'm learning about NFS and I discovered autofs! OMG! Does anybody here know about /net/xps.local? Can I use /net/xps instead or that's typical to use /net/xps.local ? |
| 11:45.45 | mau22 | tralala: chrooting from 32bit live cd to 64bit os... now trying a 64bit live cd... ;) |
| 11:45.55 | Naeblis | (this is in a VM, and I used offline installer disk to install Debian) |
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| 11:46.43 | woshty | DelTree: chmod 640 file |
| 11:47.24 | tralala | mau22, you can't do that unless you're running a 64bit kernel (which is not the case on a 32bit live-cd) |
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| 11:49.21 | Naeblis | so, how can I fix this? I suspect this is because Debian is looking at the ISO to install packages and not online... |
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| 11:50.27 | kripz | in what situation would atime be useful? i want to disable it |
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| 11:51.44 | colo-work | to determine which songs in your FLAC collection you haven't listened to in a while, for example. |
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| 11:54.45 | mau22 | tralala: problem solved... ;) thanks for supporting... ;) bye |
| 11:55.14 | tralala | mau22, you're welcome :-) |
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| 12:02.04 | GVolkman1 | Good morning all. I have a very serious issue with grub. I have an md raid that had the drive with /boot and grub which died. I replaced the drive, resynced, all good; but I can't grub-install $targdrive, or use dpkg-reconfigure, here is what I get: http://pastebin.com/md9tN06J |
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| 12:05.36 | nsadmin | the onlythng you lost was /boot? |
| 12:05.48 | nsadmin | which was on a separate drive? |
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| 12:06.50 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: yeah, I had /boot on the begining of a drive, the rest of the drive was used for md raid. now that drive is gone, raid is still good, just no /boot, and grub-install returns errors. |
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| 12:07.29 | nsadmin | have you replaced the drive? |
| 12:08.10 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: yeah, and I rsynced the degraded array, everything is good. I just can't get a bootloader to install, the methods i usually use is grub-install, but I also cannot do it using dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc |
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| 12:08.30 | arran-g | hi, is there a parser friendly version of the info at http://www.debian.org/security/? |
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| 12:08.51 | nsadmin | so you're actually able to boot, just not thru grub? |
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| 12:09.40 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: well...I haven't tried to boot, this is a prod machine, it won't reboot for another month or so. i am sure i could get it to boot if i needed, but who wants to go to a colo? |
| 12:09.49 | nsadmin | arran-g, perl (for example) has lots of html parsers |
| 12:10.14 | nsadmin | ohh ok |
| 12:10.34 | lasers` | nsadmin: I discovered autofs! So cool! Is it normal to mount it on /net/xps.local (for avahi) or I can do something like /net/xps/? Also... I /etc/exports this... /media/$UUID/ -- but when I cd /net/xps.local/ -- I'll be at /media. Is that normal? |
| 12:10.51 | arran-g | nsadmin: hmm, was trying to avoid having to parse the html |
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| 12:11.48 | arran-g | though there might be an rss or json feed lying about somewhere |
| 12:11.54 | klys | ...painless (reinstalled iceweasel from lenny) |
| 12:11.59 | arran-g | v |
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| 12:12.40 | nsadmin | arran-g, now having said that, the web site must have gotten it from somewhere |
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| 12:13.18 | nsadmin | and, you might discover that looking thru the html tree structure there |
| 12:13.24 | Azrael | hey folks, it looks like a default install of debian squeeze amd64 is setting a ulimit on max # of open files for any user (including root) to 1024. yet there's nothing in /etc/login.defs or /etc/security/limits.conf configuring this limitation. is this the new default? |
| 12:13.42 | nsadmin | is something consistant enough to pull |
| 12:14.00 | arran-g | nsadmin: true, think it might be worth inquiring about ? |
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| 12:15.21 | nsadmin | GVolkman1, could you cd /var/cache/apt/archives and then ls -C linux-image* | pastebinit |
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| 12:15.40 | nsadmin | also let's see your uname -r |
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| 12:16.01 | nsadmin | my current direction: let's try installing the kernel again |
| 12:16.31 | Oak | when I started Debian's graphical setup on my laptop, my USB mouse was not working. Why? |
| 12:16.44 | nsadmin | arran-g, well sure, it's worth a shot... do you see all info you want on the website? |
| 12:17.03 | arran-g | nsadmin: when I click thru yes |
| 12:17.07 | GVolkman1 | nasadmin: here that is: http://pastebin.com/0x14gsJv |
| 12:18.01 | nsadmin | pastebin.com has graced me by presenting a capcha... |
| 12:18.04 | nsadmin | one sec |
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| 12:18.44 | nsadmin | GVolkman1, and your uname -r? |
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| 12:19.18 | nsadmin | and do you have a new /boot mounted? |
| 12:19.45 | nsadmin | oh yes, and, we're going to reinstall all the grub stuff too |
| 12:19.48 | Oak | USB mouse damn it? |
| 12:19.56 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: right now 2.6.32-5-amd64, currently booted into linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64_2.6.32-41_amd64.deb |
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| 12:20.03 | GVolkman1 | i did mount /boot |
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| 12:20.50 | nsadmin | GVolkman1, ok, and you don't see evidence of that kernel... or do you? |
| 12:20.56 | nsadmin | in /boot |
| 12:21.01 | GVolkman1 | nada |
| 12:21.28 | nsadmin | ok, install the package for the kernel you're booted into |
| 12:21.47 | nsadmin | it will complain about modules |
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| 12:22.15 | nsadmin | you also do not see /boot/grub/? |
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| 12:22.56 | nsadmin | if yes to that, we're going to find and install the grub stuff too |
| 12:23.30 | nsadmin | and, how's that going? |
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| 12:24.06 | nsadmin | (others... hold on a sec, let us get to the point of breathing easy) |
| 12:24.41 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: okay, so I got grub to install with /boot mounted (which I thought you werent supposed to do!) |
| 12:24.49 | axx_ | hi all, does anyone know why the phpmyadmin package insist on installing apache2 when lighttpd is already installed on Debian testing? |
| 12:25.07 | nsadmin | did you reinstall the grub package? |
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| 12:25.20 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: yeah, dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 12:25.35 | nsadmin | no that's not a reinstall of the package |
| 12:25.35 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: so now I install the kernel, and I should be golden, eh? |
| 12:25.38 | nsadmin | but... |
| 12:25.44 | nsadmin | let's take a quick look |
| 12:26.07 | nsadmin | well I'd like to make sure... exists /boot/grub/ now? |
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| 12:26.34 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: /boot/grub is there |
| 12:27.03 | nsadmin | if you look in there, you should see a couple handfuls of files |
| 12:27.20 | nsadmin | maybe -not- yet including /boot/grub |
| 12:27.24 | nsadmin | err |
| 12:32.11 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: I am only tracking /boot/grub/*.mod |
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| 12:32.12 | bzed | axx_: I guess because you did not install php5-cgi |
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| 12:32.14 | nsadmin | maybe -not- yet including /boot/grub/grub.config |
| 12:32.14 | nsadmin | maybe it's grub.conf |
| 12:32.14 | nsadmin | that part seems to be looking good btw |
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| 12:32.14 | nsadmin | not guaranteeing results btw. that's on you) |
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| 12:32.18 | nsadmin | having said that... things are looking good so far |
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| 12:32.19 | nsadmin | what was the exact text of the dpkg-reconfigure cmd? |
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| 12:32.20 | nsadmin | GVolkman1, ok, that's pretty much what I expected |
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| 12:32.21 | sssslang | hi, could someone tell me how to enable/disable a service? I tried update-rc.d, but it told me the API's gonna change. |
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| 12:32.21 | GVolkman1 | nsadmin: I got it up. I think it is an issue with md and trying to configure where / is (?). now that I have grub installed i am good to go. thx for the help. |
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| 12:32.21 | guardian | hi, i'm maintaining a debian box that does shared hosting for around 30 users. is this a security issue to have a CREDENTIALS.txt file with 400 permissions in each user's home that reminds her the mysql login/pass. the way i see it, if FTP access is compromised the attacker can grep php files for mysql login/pass anyways. what do you think? |
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| 12:32.27 | axx_ | bzed: thanks for your answer, but I just checked, and I have installed php5-cgi :-/ |
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| 12:32.37 | nsadmin | GVolkman1, make SURE you reinstall the linux-image package |
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| 12:32.54 | nsadmin | like, dpkg -i linux-image-somethng |
| 12:32.58 | nsadmin | .deb |
| 12:32.59 | axx_ | sssslang: have you tried /etc/init.d/your-service start|stop|etc. ? |
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| 12:33.15 | themill | dpkg: tell sssslang about service |
| 12:33.28 | axx_ | otherwise, 'service' works too |
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| 12:33.37 | sssslang | axx_: this is the way to start/stop service, but i need the magic to enable/disable it ... |
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| 12:34.07 | nsadmin | oh well... he's not answering... hoping for the best :) |
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| 12:34.52 | sssslang | themill: thank you. but which is the offical way? |
| 12:35.40 | themill | sssslang: maintainer scripts use update-rc.d but beyond that, there is no "official" way. Use whatever you feel comfortable with. mv works best for me. |
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| 12:36.00 | axx_ | any clues as to why the phpmyadmin package would want to pull all apache2 related stuff when lighttpd is installed with php5-cgi ? |
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| 12:36.23 | nsadmin | sssslang, you want to what? take the service down right now? or take it down and not let it start at boot? |
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| 12:36.46 | sssslang | nsadmin: the latter one. |
| 12:37.04 | themill | axx_: could you pastebin the command you gave and the entire output? |
| 12:37.25 | axx_ | themill: sure thing, thanks for helping out |
| 12:37.30 | nsadmin | ok, so you would do service <yourservice> stop |
| 12:38.08 | nsadmin | to bring it down now that is... and then, look in /etc/rcX.d for links to that service |
| 12:38.18 | nsadmin | the S links start, the K links stop |
| 12:38.52 | axx_ | themill: https://paste.debian.net/160406/ |
| 12:38.53 | sssslang | nsadmin: i know the internals. but just want to find a not-so-dirty way. |
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| 12:40.04 | nsadmin | well I think that finding the "accepted" way if there is one, could be separated from "finding any way to do it now" |
| 12:40.25 | nsadmin | how urgent is it to stop this? when do you want to put it up again? |
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| 12:42.18 | sssslang | nsadmin: i find some service rarely used, which cause my debian slow to boot. i'll use /etc/init.d/SERVICE start to start them when i need to. |
| 12:42.50 | nsadmin | oh ok... so this is sorta clean up |
| 12:43.14 | nsadmin | nonurgent, non security related |
| 12:43.51 | themill | axx_: that you currently have the package system in an inconsistent state makes this much harder. If "/msg dpkg bat" and pastebin some more information as dpkg suggests that would help though |
| 12:44.24 | axx_ | themill: I have just realised my apt preferences caused me to grab som stuff from unstable |
| 12:44.37 | axx_ | themill: thanks for the pointers, I'll try to clear that up |
| 12:44.41 | themill | yes, you have an interesting mixture of wheezy and sid there. |
| 12:45.29 | axx_ | themill: uninented, that's what you get when you dabble with /apt/preferences without enough thinking put into it :) |
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| 12:47.49 | axx_ | themill: right, with the testing versions of php5-cgi and php5-common, it's a lot better! :) |
| 12:49.33 | themill | axx_: yeah, it would probably be ok if you had only sid php* packages too; the mixture plus a couple of currently-uninstallable packages from sid etc is going to make this a lot harder for aptitude which sometimes leads to surprises. |
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| 12:50.13 | axx_ | themill: I've commented out unstable from my pinning preferences, that should prevent it from happening in the future… |
| 12:50.34 | axx_ | but hey, I've learned something in the process ;) |
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| 12:51.16 | themill | so you now have both testing and unstable in your sources.list but no pinning? that's not going to end well... |
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| 12:53.13 | nkuttler | ugh pinning.. |
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| 12:53.43 | streuner_ | !bobbitt |
| 12:53.43 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorena_Bobbitt ]? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Squeeze, any other Debian system, "Debian based distro", or the fire that is <rpm>, <alien>, etc. |
| 12:55.08 | lasers` | I have a question about lirc-modules-source. It's in squeeze, but not wheezy. Is it now included with lirc or something? I asked because I think it's broke in squeeze (ie i couldn't use module-assistant to build it) |
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| 12:55.47 | nkuttler | !why is lirc-modules-source not in testing |
| 12:55.47 | dpkg | lirc-modules-source is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=lirc-modules-source |
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| 12:55.59 | nkuttler | hrm |
| 12:56.09 | nkuttler | since when is that a 404? |
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| 12:57.50 | axx_ | themill: right, so is this a correct solution ? https://paste.debian.net/160409/ |
| 12:57.52 | lasers` | Erm, the reason is not founded. |
| 12:58.04 | streuner_ | nkuttler: http://release.debian.org/migration/ |
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| 12:58.14 | themill | nkuttler: istr that the modules are now merged into the kernel |
| 12:58.15 | nkuttler | yeah, just looking into the source.. |
| 12:58.38 | themill | axx_: I can't see that mixing stable and testing and unstable is a good plan. |
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| 12:58.57 | woshty | is there still an official skype debian repo somewhere? |
| 12:59.07 | nkuttler | !tell woshty about skype |
| 12:59.31 | axx_ | themill: ok, I think I'm going about this the wrong way then… I'll remove unstable repos from my sources.list, and stick to testing |
| 12:59.39 | nkuttler | that's too bad. the script was really useful |
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| 13:05.10 | johnfg_ | hi guys |
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| 13:06.06 | johnfg_ | Other than looking at /etc/fstab, how do I print out the UUID of my hard drive partitions? |
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| 13:09.41 | sephii | johnfg_: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 13:09.55 | johnfg_ | I tried sudo e2label /dev/sdb11, but it returns nothing. |
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| 13:11.04 | johnfg_ | sephii: Let me give that a try. Great! Exactly what I needed. |
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| 13:11.47 | johnfg_ | My problem was in grub.cfg and grub not recognizing a partition. |
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| 13:12.26 | nsadmin | johnfg_, that /dev/disk/by-* are symlink farms created at boot |
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| 13:14.15 | jelly | at device detection time. Hot plugged devices appear there as well |
| 13:14.16 | johnfg_ | nsadmin: but accurate, right? |
| 13:14.33 | jelly | such is the majik of udev |
| 13:15.38 | nsadmin | think so... maybe by-label will (also) see that the partition in question has no label and so not make that symlink |
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| 13:16.07 | nsadmin | but yeah, it should be accurate |
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| 13:16.55 | johnfg_ | nsadmin: I installed linux mint debian edition (since removed) on an external hard drive, but had all kinds of problems. For some reason, squeeze's dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc didn't properly detect lmde. |
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| 13:17.30 | johnfg_ | Although I still have lenny on that drive and it's recognized fine. |
| 13:17.49 | Woet | johnfg_: why are you asking #debian when you are using linux mint? |
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| 13:18.35 | nsadmin | and, having said that, one way to use by-uuid is to see what /dev/thing has what uuid and then use the uuid in places where a /dev/something would normally be (like, in fstab and the grub config) |
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| 13:19.30 | nsadmin | do the rules apply to someone who uses a different dist? or to someone who asks about it? |
| 13:19.40 | johnfg_ | Woet: My questions aren't really about lmde. They were for squeeze and its grub-pc. |
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| 13:20.49 | johnfg_ | nsadmin: Woet I could have probably asked something in grub too, but perhaps this is the best channel. |
| 13:21.13 | nsadmin | I see people getting upset all the time when it turns out someone's running something else, when the reality comes when they try to apply it, and the channel is not privy to that |
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| 13:21.32 | nsadmin | the "getting upset" part is totally unnecessary |
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| 13:22.20 | nsadmin | are you kidding? this is the bestest channel everrr! |
| 13:22.25 | johnfg_ | nsadmin: Right. One of the things I'm wanting to try is the 'rolling release'. I may do that on an unimportant machine currently running squeeze. |
| 13:22.42 | johnfg_ | Change the stable to testing and do the dist-upgrade. |
| 13:23.04 | cockroach | is actually tempted to come here with each and every somewhat linux-related issue simply because there are usually tons of helpful people in here... |
| 13:23.10 | nsadmin | while not intended, effectively it does roll |
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| 13:24.05 | nsadmin | cockroach, that's an issue that may have caused the debian-only stance, to break the load issue |
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| 13:24.34 | kesroesweyth | cockroach: same here. It's a bit disheartening hearing "what does this have to do with debian?" when asking a question that is more generally related to linux than debian specifically |
| 13:24.35 | cockroach | nsadmin: might make sense, i suppose. |
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| 13:25.14 | cockroach | kesroesweyth: indeed. especially since it seems to be quite hard to find good people in "general linux" channels |
| 13:25.40 | cockroach | ... and you KNOW that somebody in here has the solution :) |
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| 13:26.26 | kesroesweyth | cockroach: it really is. I stay in this channel and ask questions here quite often, but I've asked questions about grep, bash scripts, and configurations for various daemons, and while they may have their own channels, why be so nit-picky? |
| 13:26.35 | nsadmin | but the more sicco you are anywhere, the more people that know whether they can help you or not, right away |
| 13:26.49 | themill | The people volunteering here are doing to to help with debian issues. Perhaps you should make availability of support one of the criteria you think about when choosing a distro. |
| 13:26.54 | nsadmin | s/but/and/ |
| 13:27.17 | johnfg_ | nsadmin: sicco? Don't understand. |
| 13:27.23 | nsadmin | !sicco |
| 13:27.23 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 13:27.30 | jelly | you sicko |
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| 13:27.58 | shingouz | plus the fact that it is supremely annoying when asking someone to do (for instance) a dpkg-reconfigure the next question is "how do i install dpkg on redhat" |
| 13:27.59 | nsadmin | specific informative concise keebler on-topic? |
| 13:28.08 | kesroesweyth | cockroach: a somewhat similar comparison is back when i worked at a local mom'n'pop pc shop, we didn't "support" phones, Macs, or systems running OS's earlier than XP, but when people brought them in, we were friendly and offered help if we had the answers. |
| 13:28.41 | themill | .o0( perhaps we could get back to debian user support now? ) |
| 13:28.53 | cockroach | kesroesweyth: aye. it's the curse of those who know stuff :) |
| 13:29.01 | cockroach | themill: okok... |
| 13:29.05 | kesroesweyth | cockroach: suppose so :) |
| 13:29.52 | nsadmin | kesroesweyth, in that instance, your marketing would be for pcs running that specific os, and if you pull in others and can help them too, you gain a rep |
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| 13:30.09 | kesroesweyth | nsadmin: precisely |
| 13:31.38 | nsadmin | in that instance, saying anything like "what does this have to do with pcs running xp?!!??!" will destroy any benefit your marketing may have otherwise cultivated |
| 13:32.05 | nsadmin | especially if you raise your eyebrows and make an angry face :) |
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| 13:32.15 | themill | makes angry faces at nsadmin |
| 13:32.41 | nsadmin | you mean there are times when you don't!??! Shocking! |
| 13:33.01 | kesroesweyth | nsadmin: you're exactly right |
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| 13:33.35 | nsadmin | steals themill's angry faces and throws them like a frizbee! |
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| 13:34.56 | nsadmin | there are ways of dealing with the load issue that are more honest and more in integrity |
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| 13:36.20 | cockroach | hmm, my fdisk complains that "Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary." - should i be worried about that? |
| 13:36.39 | kesroesweyth | cockroach: go to #fdisk with that question |
| 13:36.43 | cockroach | :) |
| 13:36.44 | kesroesweyth | cockroach: jk ;) sorry |
| 13:37.09 | petern_ | i'd say not |
| 13:37.25 | petern_ | i'm pretty sure drives manage all that stuff internally these days |
| 13:37.33 | cockroach | ok, thanks |
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| 13:39.37 | nsadmin | GVolkman1 and arran-g, how you doing |
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| 13:40.55 | Teduardo | Any chance of getting support for Broadcom 5720 QP NICs in the Squeeze net install image? |
| 13:41.04 | Teduardo | would really help me out =D |
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| 13:43.37 | nsadmin | Teduardo, you could start by installing without configuring the net |
| 13:44.01 | nsadmin | then you'll have a more complete linux installation with which to deal with that |
| 13:44.05 | thorus90 | I have installed racoon and wanted to edit the init skript because it doesn't start correct with the options modified in /etc/default/racoon, but if I'm changing anything with an texteditor it doesn't have an effect? o.O |
| 13:44.07 | Teduardo | all of our installs are remote... |
| 13:44.15 | Teduardo | no net != can't happen |
| 13:44.56 | nsadmin | no net not can't happen? :) oh, so there's also no separate ssn console? |
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| 13:49.53 | linduxed | i've got a failing drive, did a fsck on in (it completed but there were quite a few things it complained about), then reboot and about 10 minutes in a message pops up on the screen saying ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }. the question is, now that the fsck finished, is it safe to use the drive until i replace it? |
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| 13:50.54 | nsadmin | linduxed, it may have already failed |
| 13:51.10 | dvs | linduxed: No, replace it as soon as possible |
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| 13:51.30 | nsadmin | you probably need to replace it now |
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| 13:52.52 | linduxed | i take it that if i let my users access that drive it will mess up even more? |
| 13:53.39 | dvs | linduxed: The data is just going to get messed up even more if you keep on using it. |
| 13:53.54 | nsadmin | could be. if you can back it up, do it now. use tar cfpl for each partition |
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| 13:54.34 | nsadmin | it may be too late for that, it;s looking like it's physicallyu failing |
| 13:54.35 | linduxed | well i've got a backup of the partition that's messed up, but i guess that the other ones will start to fail too soon |
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| 13:54.57 | nsadmin | back them up now if you haven't already |
| 13:55.18 | linduxed | don't have the space for that currently... |
| 13:55.20 | linduxed | well |
| 13:55.24 | nsadmin | and you might want to do that in single user mode |
| 13:55.31 | linduxed | i've got one drive that's usable |
| 13:55.34 | linduxed | like |
| 13:55.53 | linduxed | it's empty, but it's not for storage, it would be the one i'd migrate to |
| 13:55.58 | nsadmin | it's time to buy 1-3 large drives maybe |
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| 13:56.27 | linduxed | maybe, but the fact that it's time doesn't mean i have them :,-( |
| 13:56.41 | nsadmin | understood |
| 13:56.49 | linduxed | but as said, i've got one drive that's ready to move to |
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| 13:57.03 | linduxed | but i'm currently logged in to the system on the old drive |
| 13:57.05 | nsadmin | I'd say make a partition on the newer drive for the old drive's tarball backups |
| 13:57.37 | nsadmin | that the only machine you got? |
| 13:57.40 | linduxed | yes |
| 13:57.43 | linduxed | well no |
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| 13:57.52 | linduxed | the only linux-box |
| 13:58.01 | linduxed | the rest are windows-boxes |
| 13:58.06 | nsadmin | can you talk to us using another machine? |
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| 13:58.19 | linduxed | well yeah, that i'm doing right now |
| 13:58.25 | linduxed | using my laptop for that |
| 13:58.27 | nsadmin | oh ok good |
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| 13:58.55 | linduxed | the second drive i mentioned, it's already in the server |
| 13:59.01 | linduxed | ready to be moved to |
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| 13:59.09 | nsadmin | good |
| 13:59.22 | nsadmin | can you reboot in single user mode? |
| 13:59.28 | linduxed | however, worth mentioning is that the setup that is currently on the computer, it's incredibly fragile |
| 13:59.30 | linduxed | or well |
| 13:59.36 | linduxed | fragile is maybe the wrong word |
| 13:59.55 | linduxed | it's... it's like the only thing that works, the samba config in particular |
| 13:59.56 | nsadmin | you think it might not take a reboot? |
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| 14:00.06 | linduxed | well yeah, that it should |
| 14:00.20 | linduxed | rebooting now |
| 14:00.39 | nsadmin | your grub list should have a maintainance mode boot |
| 14:01.22 | linduxed | fffffuuuuu |
| 14:01.26 | linduxed | nope it doesn't |
| 14:01.38 | linduxed | but i'll just edit the entry and add 3 to the end |
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| 14:01.46 | linduxed | should work right? |
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| 14:02.09 | nsadmin | are you sure there's none in the list? |
| 14:02.17 | abrotman | add 3 ? |
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| 14:02.40 | nsadmin | how did the grub config get created? |
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| 14:03.17 | nsadmin | well I'm gonna get you started anyway |
| 14:03.27 | johnfg_ | Is testing using the same version of grub as squeeze? |
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| 14:03.45 | nsadmin | , versions grub-pc |
| 14:03.47 | judd | Package: grub-pc on i386 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16; lenny-backports: 1.97~beta3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; wheezy: 1.99-17; sid: 1.99-18 |
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| 14:04.11 | nsadmin | nope doesn't look like it |
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| 14:04.56 | nsadmin | linduxed, add "single" |
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| 14:06.27 | nsadmin | it's time to back up my app :) |
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| 14:10.45 | stylewalka | I have broken apt,by mixing stable and testing. I get the error: Setting up libgcc1; FATAL: kernel too old; could anyone advice? |
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| 14:12.18 | pawdro | hi, is there any way to use gnome2 in debian testing right now? |
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| 14:14.39 | linduxed | nsadmin: sorry for the away-time |
| 14:14.45 | linduxed | nsadmin: had so fix some other stuff |
| 14:14.58 | nmvictor | Any help with PXE booting, please! |
| 14:15.10 | ikonia | nmvictor: are you using ubuntu or debian |
| 14:15.13 | linduxed | but... tbh it got more interesting, considering that now that i came back i got greeted with a kernel panic after reboot |
| 14:15.28 | nsadmin | uhoh |
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| 14:15.46 | nsadmin | are you in single user mode? |
| 14:15.59 | xerz | need help installing irssi on my debian VPS |
| 14:16.01 | ikonia | nmvictor: are you using ubuntu or debian |
| 14:16.05 | xerz | whats the command? |
| 14:16.07 | linduxed | well i just added that 3 to grub, so i'll force shutdown and try adding single instead |
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| 14:16.23 | ikonia | nmvictor: which distro is it ? |
| 14:16.32 | nsadmin | hmm. that doesn't sound that good |
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| 14:16.46 | xerz | ikonia: honestly you could of helped in ubunut -_- |
| 14:16.52 | linduxed | nsadmin: maybe i should boot up a live cd or something |
| 14:16.59 | nmvictor | ikonia: ubuntu 11.10, |
| 14:17.06 | ikonia | nmvictor: right - so why are you asking in #debian |
| 14:17.06 | linduxed | nsadmin: or well now it's booting, we'll see what happens.... |
| 14:17.11 | ikonia | xerz: I sure could. |
| 14:17.11 | nsadmin | that does sound like a plan |
| 14:17.12 | linduxed | now it's fscking... |
| 14:17.19 | linduxed | fuck this will take a while |
| 14:17.25 | xerz | so can someone please just tell me the command? |
| 14:17.30 | nsadmin | uhoh :) |
| 14:17.37 | linduxed | especially since it got stuck on 0.4%..... |
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| 14:17.42 | linduxed | :-S |
| 14:17.49 | linduxed | omg |
| 14:17.59 | linduxed | UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY |
| 14:18.04 | nmvictor | ikonia: i asked in ubuntu, I thought debian guys could also help, ubuntu and debian are almost the same. |
| 14:18.05 | linduxed | time to do this manually |
| 14:18.10 | nsadmin | uhoh :) |
| 14:18.20 | ikonia | nmvictor: nope, check the topic |
| 14:18.21 | nsadmin | boot the live ce |
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| 14:19.17 | nmvictor | ikonia: ok, lets stick to ubuntu. I badly need the help. |
| 14:19.18 | xerz | expres:~# apt-get install irssi Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package irssi |
| 14:19.20 | xerz | ????? |
| 14:19.39 | dvs | !ubuntu |
| 14:19.39 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 14:19.41 | ikonia | search |
| 14:19.43 | ikonia | search for irssi |
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| 14:19.59 | nsadmin | xerz, show your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 14:20.08 | nsadmin | (not pastebin.com please) |
| 14:20.08 | ikonia | nsadmin: it's a bastardisded vps |
| 14:20.16 | ikonia | it's running a RHEL kernel in a xen server |
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| 14:21.31 | sephii | nsadmin: why not pastebin.com? |
| 14:21.58 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.59 | ikonia | it's also a lenny based spin |
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| 14:26.53 | sephii | nsadmin: well if a website is capable of crashing your browser, your browser sucks too :) |
| 14:27.34 | thewanderer1 | hi. my touchscreen (wacom) is not detected by X.org. running Squeeze/backports. the kernel does see it, but not X. what should I do? I tried compiling xf86-input-wacom, but it yells about ABI mismatch. |
| 14:28.20 | xerz | nsadmin: i just tye in /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal? |
| 14:28.24 | xerz | type* |
| 14:28.27 | linduxed | nsadmin: i think i've got one lying around here somewhere |
| 14:28.32 | linduxed | nsadmin: i'll have to see |
| 14:29.02 | themill | sephii: pastebin.com often requires us to type in captchas to see your pastes. It's pretty annoying all-round |
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| 14:29.24 | linduxed | nsadmin: but first, i'll mail out to people that they definitely won't be getting their documents back that were made after the backup... |
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| 14:30.05 | nsadmin | when was the backup made? |
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| 14:30.11 | xerz | nsadmin: or do i type in cat /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal? |
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| 14:30.49 | nsadmin | xerz, you could try aptitude install nopaste |
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| 14:31.19 | nsadmin | then do cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nopaste |
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| 14:32.02 | nsadmin | pastebinit is pretty broken, so not recommending that |
| 14:32.20 | JSeymour | Do I recall correctly that Ubuntu users' questions about what would appear to be vanilla Debian-type stuff is strictly verboten in here? |
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| 14:33.09 | nsadmin | JSeymour, unless you want to apply any answer to an actual debian you have installed or need to work with |
| 14:33.15 | thewanderer1 | how do I compile xf86-input-wacom in Squeeze without running into ABI compatibility (7 vs. 12) errors? |
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| 14:33.54 | jelly | JSeymour: if they can reproduce the same issue with Debian, they're welcome to ask |
| 14:34.08 | jelly | so "yes" |
| 14:34.15 | JSeymour | nsadmin: This is an "apt-get upgrade" issue, with an apparently broken package. I *think* it's generic. |
| 14:34.30 | mjt | heh. it is not ;) |
| 14:34.37 | mjt | hi Jim |
| 14:34.50 | nsadmin | hi ;) |
| 14:34.51 | jelly | JSeymour: use ##linux. Unfortunately there is no channel for generic dpkg or apt questions |
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| 14:35.05 | JSeymour | mjt: I'm not saying the specific package problem is generic, but the nature of the problem and potential fixes. |
| 14:35.26 | JSeymour | Hi Misha :) |
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| 14:35.28 | nsadmin | JSeymour, and/or install debian and see if the problem esists there |
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| 14:35.48 | mjt | thats most likely some version conflict which only exist in there |
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| 14:36.00 | JSeymour | nsadmin: It doesn't even exist on two different machines with the same Ubuntu installs, so not likely :) |
| 14:36.05 | themill | JSeymour: a broken package is very distro specific. |
| 14:36.27 | linduxed | nsadmin: sunday |
| 14:36.37 | JSeymour | themill: I know. This isn't about the package, per se. But more how to approach fixing the problem. |
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| 14:36.59 | linduxed | nsadmin: but as said, it's only a backup for the partition that is failing, that is the data partition |
| 14:37.03 | themill | JSeymour: asking your distro support channel as they probably already know |
| 14:37.07 | mjt | we already discussed it more than needed to fix the problem, i guess ;) |
| 14:37.08 | linduxed | nsadmin: hopefully, the other stuff is intact |
| 14:37.15 | jelly | JSeymour: if #ubuntu is not useful enough, try directing the question to ##linux or #ubuntu-server if you have a server installation |
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| 14:37.38 | JSeymour | themill, nsadmin, jelly: Ok, thanks. My friend has offered to entertain my question on another channel. |
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| 14:38.29 | holzstock | Hello @ll! |
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| 14:38.41 | nsadmin | linduxed, did you successfully boot either in single user mode or from a live cd? |
| 14:39.08 | fredl | my exim4 on squeeze does not recognize mysql_servers, is this expected? |
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| 14:39.42 | petemc | fredl: you have to use exim4-daemon-heavy |
| 14:39.50 | fredl | petemc - I do. |
| 14:40.18 | fredl | petemc - I generated an /etc/exim4/exim4.conf |
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| 14:40.28 | petemc | fredl: does exim -bV mention mysql? |
| 14:40.38 | linduxed | nsadmin: not yet, lotsa people on my ass due to the server being fucked up :-/ |
| 14:40.49 | linduxed | nsadmin: i'll get a disc soon and boot off of it |
| 14:40.56 | thewanderer1 | can I somehow simulate a CD drive to upgrade the BIOS? I need to boot from an ISO but don't have a drive... I do have network boot and pendrives laying around. |
| 14:41.01 | fredl | petemc - yes it does, under lookups: |
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| 14:41.25 | petemc | fredl: where did you put the mysql_servers option? |
| 14:42.09 | fredl | petemc - I generated an exim4.conf with update-exim4.conf --keepcomments --output /etc/exim4/exim4.conf, then added 'hide mysql_servers = ....' at the end of exim4.conf |
| 14:42.12 | nsadmin | linduxed, no other machine can take over? I guess you gotta tell them to hold off uploading/downloading these document thingys |
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| 14:42.32 | petemc | fredl: put it at the top |
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| 14:43.43 | fredl | still the same petemc |
| 14:43.54 | intgr | Hi, is it possible somehow to compare all installed files with originals from packages? |
| 14:44.06 | intgr | Or find weird files that are not part of any package |
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| 14:44.52 | ksuhku | what's cd drives gotta do with bios updates thewanderer1? can't you just make a bootable usb stick? |
| 14:44.57 | fredl | petemc - hold on, made a typo, it works now |
| 14:45.00 | johnfg_ | Once I change my sources to testing and do the dist-upgrade, is gnome 3 available? |
| 14:45.08 | fredl | petemc - thanks! |
| 14:45.32 | petemc | np |
| 14:45.43 | linduxed | nsadmin: well i just mailed out that the server is down until tomorrow (fortunatelly, it's 1545 here, so a lot of people are already moving home) |
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| 14:45.56 | thewanderer1 | ksuhku, I would like to, but I don't know how to make a bootable stick using an ISO from Lenovo |
| 14:46.29 | thewanderer1 | and also make it look like a CD. |
| 14:46.39 | sephii | !tell johnfg_ about sns |
| 14:47.04 | ksuhku | thewanderer1, try one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tools_to_create_Live_USB_systems |
| 14:47.12 | johnfg_ | sephii: Nothin' came through. |
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| 14:47.55 | nkuttler | thewanderer1: can't you just cat the .iso to a drive and boot that? |
| 14:48.10 | thewanderer1 | nkuttler, I don't think so... |
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| 14:48.28 | thewanderer1 | the OS would need USB drivers I suppose, and at 30MB, it's surely some DOS |
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| 14:48.50 | HJE841 | What could cause my squeezy boks to halt boot after 'Starting MTA: exim4'? |
| 14:49.02 | esmirlin | hi people, can someone tell me how to activate the testing repo in a fresh installation of debian 6.0.4? |
| 14:49.30 | nkuttler | thewanderer1: i'd assume lenovo has documented how to do this on one of their devices without a cdrom drive |
| 14:49.49 | thewanderer1 | nkuttler, yes. use Windows or get a UltraBay with CD drive. |
| 14:49.56 | nkuttler | and if the bios supports booting from usb, why would the iso need usb drivers? |
| 14:50.15 | thewanderer1 | err, if I boot from USB, it doesn't automagically become a CD-ROM |
| 14:50.41 | HJE841 | esmirlin, try comment the line in /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update |
| 14:50.48 | johnfg_ | sephii: Ok, got it. |
| 14:50.54 | nkuttler | of course, but why would the upgrader assume it's on a cd? |
| 14:51.03 | esmirlin | HJE841: thanks! |
| 14:52.21 | thewanderer1 | nkuttler, because it's released as an ISO image |
| 14:52.28 | HJE841 | esmirlin, that would DE-activate it.. sorry |
| 14:52.31 | esmirlin | HJE841: but what should i write as testing repo? |
| 14:52.59 | HJE841 | esmirlin, no clue, sorry |
| 14:53.24 | nkuttler | thewanderer1: so? i can put a debian installer iso on a hd if i want to |
| 14:54.22 | fredl | petemc - do you know of any decent web administration frontend for exim? |
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| 14:54.36 | petemc | fredl: no |
| 14:54.55 | HJE841 | anyone have a clue on what happens in the boot sequence after 'Starting MTA'?? |
| 14:55.02 | fredl | hmm ok |
| 14:55.16 | nkuttler | HJE841: that would depend on your init scripts |
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| 14:55.47 | nkuttler | HJE841: check the /etc/rc* directories |
| 14:56.00 | HJE841 | nkuttler, how? |
| 14:56.05 | nkuttler | ls? |
| 14:56.10 | thewanderer1 | ok, I'll try booting this with unetbootin... |
| 14:56.20 | HJE841 | it won't finish the boot sequence |
| 14:56.28 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok, i'm in systemrescue-cd |
| 14:56.38 | nkuttler | HJE841: what do you mean? is there an error message or something? |
| 14:56.41 | linduxed | nsadmin: it's not debian, but i guess it will do |
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| 14:56.51 | HJE841 | nkuttler, no, it just stops |
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| 14:57.02 | HJE841 | blinking cursor |
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| 14:57.23 | nkuttler | HJE841: yeah so check which scripts are running after exim, or if exim itself hangs |
| 14:57.33 | nkuttler | HJE841: which debian release are you using? |
| 14:57.42 | nsadmin | linduxed, yeah... so first how large is your /? |
| 14:58.05 | HJE841 | nkuttler, squeezy |
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| 14:59.01 | linduxed | nsadmin: i'll have to mount and see |
| 14:59.11 | nkuttler | HJE841: i'd guess you have some custom script in there. debian script can probably catch a timeout |
| 14:59.17 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 14:59.20 | linduxed | nsadmin: i assume you mean the one on the drive, not the temporary live-cd one? |
| 14:59.27 | nsadmin | how large is the partition |
| 14:59.50 | nsadmin | not the temp. and, does the live cd env have tar? |
| 14:59.52 | HJE841 | nkuttler, yeah, I think I have something. I'll try boot in recovery mode |
| 15:00.10 | linduxed | yeah it has tar |
| 15:00.26 | nsadmin | ok good... we'll be using that alot |
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| 15:01.16 | nsadmin | this is a local server which you have root on? |
| 15:01.20 | linduxed | yeah |
| 15:01.24 | nsadmin | ok |
| 15:01.32 | linduxed | just to clarify the setup |
| 15:02.26 | linduxed | i'm sitting next to the server, live-usb plugged in, booted up systemrescue-cd. there are two drives in the server, one working one and a failing one, i'm pretty sure the working one is larger than the failing one |
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| 15:02.34 | HJE841 | hmm... I should know that by heart by now... |
| 15:02.35 | linduxed | the failing one has 6 partitions |
| 15:03.02 | linduxed | sdb6 is the one that's failing (that i know of that is0 |
| 15:03.05 | linduxed | ) |
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| 15:03.45 | nsadmin | and which is the / partition? want to get your instance booted with new / first |
| 15:04.14 | thewanderer1 | kernel.org is down, right? ... |
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| 15:04.22 | linduxed | nsadmin: the / is on sdb2 |
| 15:04.27 | nsadmin | (stay with me -- and/or let me know when you're pausing for things like coffee breaks) |
| 15:04.49 | linduxed | nsadmin: /boot is on sdb1, /var on sdb3 and swap on sdb5 |
| 15:05.09 | linduxed | nsadmin: sdb6 has the home directories and the other stuff |
| 15:05.21 | linduxed | nsadmin: funnily enough sdb4 is non-existant... |
| 15:05.22 | nsadmin | hmm. no /usr... could mean / is pretty big |
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| 15:05.45 | linduxed | nsadmin: it's a couple of gigs short of 500GB |
| 15:05.55 | linduxed | 5, more specifically |
| 15:06.14 | nsadmin | wow... and it's that full? |
| 15:06.30 | HJE841 | now why do I keep getting an uncaught exception when I try to make a debian liveUSB from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ? |
| 15:06.40 | HJE841 | I'm using ubuntu 11.04 |
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| 15:07.24 | thewanderer1 | HJE841, just dd it to the pendrive, don't use unetbootin |
| 15:07.37 | linduxed | nsadmin: hmmm, i don't see the free space on it through cfdisk |
| 15:07.41 | themill | HJE841: that might be a question that is better for #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 15:07.46 | nsadmin | HJE841, there's going to be more definitive info on #ubuntu |
| 15:07.47 | linduxed | nsadmin: but i know for a fact that it's got a lot of stuff on it |
| 15:07.59 | nsadmin | linduxed, ok, mount it and df |
| 15:08.03 | linduxed | nsadmin: i'd have to try mounting it to see how full it is right? |
| 15:08.04 | sephii | HJE841: have you tried to just dd/cat it on the usb key? |
| 15:08.10 | HJE841 | thewanderer1, what's the syntaks for dd? |
| 15:08.12 | nsadmin | yep |
| 15:08.57 | thewanderer1 | HJE841, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 15:09.01 | linduxed | nsadmin: used = 373G, size = 454G |
| 15:09.23 | HJE841 | thewanderer1, thanks |
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| 15:10.36 | nsadmin | linduxed, welp... ok, make a coupla primary partitions for /boot and / on the other drive... I guess make the one for / about 500g |
| 15:11.22 | linduxed | nsadmin: note that the previous setup had / separated |
| 15:11.34 | nsadmin | separated from what? |
| 15:11.49 | nsadmin | from /usr? |
| 15:11.51 | linduxed | it had / on one partition and /export on another one |
| 15:12.01 | linduxed | it also contained /home |
| 15:12.09 | linduxed | export that is |
| 15:12.16 | nsadmin | hmm. |
| 15:12.16 | linduxed | that's the huge one |
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| 15:12.27 | nsadmin | so /home is huge |
| 15:12.42 | nsadmin | run du -s (mountpoint)/home |
| 15:12.56 | linduxed | well, more specifically /export, which contains both home and all of the other stuff that is shared by samba |
| 15:13.02 | linduxed | *through samba |
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| 15:13.27 | nsadmin | ok, do you want to separate /export? |
| 15:13.44 | linduxed | if one is to emulate the previous environment then yes |
| 15:13.56 | linduxed | but i'm starting to wonder if that's such a good idea |
| 15:13.59 | linduxed | hmmm |
| 15:14.02 | nsadmin | well tell me what you want to do |
| 15:14.06 | linduxed | actually fuck it |
| 15:14.12 | linduxed | i'll just get a copied environment |
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| 15:14.19 | linduxed | i'll shape it up some other day |
| 15:14.23 | nsadmin | ok |
| 15:14.41 | linduxed | partition for /export it is |
| 15:15.00 | nsadmin | where did you mount the /? |
| 15:15.15 | linduxed | haven't mounted it yet |
| 15:15.32 | linduxed | but it was mounted (when stuffed worked) on sdb2 |
| 15:15.34 | nsadmin | I thougth you found out the used size of it |
| 15:15.47 | linduxed | ah, no only checked /export |
| 15:15.52 | linduxed | i can check that right away |
| 15:16.12 | nsadmin | is /export separated from / now? |
| 15:16.15 | HJE841 | is SATA 3 backwards compatible? |
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| 15:16.47 | linduxed | nsadmin: in the live environment, yes |
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| 15:17.09 | nsadmin | ok, now I'm really confused |
| 15:17.14 | linduxed | nsadmin: i've mounted /export on /mnt/export and the old /-partition on /mnt/root-dir |
| 15:17.30 | nsadmin | you said some things before that negates what you said more recently |
| 15:17.43 | nsadmin | so we need to start over with that info gathering |
| 15:17.46 | linduxed | ok sure |
| 15:17.52 | linduxed | you ask the questions then |
| 15:17.56 | linduxed | i think that will be better |
| 15:18.16 | nsadmin | ok, so you have a 500g /? |
| 15:18.35 | linduxed | we're talking about the old drive now? |
| 15:18.36 | bunny69 | folks... i'm desperately trying to master vhosting... i know that there are so many docs and such... but still, vhosting gives me such a headache... perhaps someone could point me to a bullet proof solution? i just want to addd a vhost and forget about it instead of playing funny games with apache all the time |
| 15:18.55 | nsadmin | yes, right now we're talking about the old drive |
| 15:19.17 | linduxed | nsadmin: i'll pastebin the old setup |
| 15:19.26 | nsadmin | bunny69, do you want to run a vhost company or use a vhost? |
| 15:19.28 | bunny69 | e.g. i have 3 vhosts right now... different IPs also, and now i added 4th vhost and out of the blue apache sends a visitor to same virtual dir for 2 of those 4 vhosts... why on earth is that? |
| 15:19.39 | bunny69 | no, not a company, those are my private websites |
| 15:19.47 | nsadmin | linduxed, nono, just answer the question I'm asking |
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| 15:20.16 | nsadmin | it will be marginally slower, but I'll get an exact picture of what you have |
| 15:20.17 | linduxed | nsadmin: no |
| 15:20.43 | bunny69 | nsadmin i just can't understand the whole concept, especially when there are more than 1 vhost defined for particular IP |
| 15:20.52 | nsadmin | ok, so now, remind me on the old drive where the / and /boot partitions are? |
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| 15:21.22 | linduxed | nsadmin: / was on sdb2 and it was 2.6G large |
| 15:21.36 | nsadmin | oh ok, and /boot? |
| 15:21.41 | linduxed | nsadmin: /boot was on sdb1 and was .3G large |
| 15:21.42 | nsadmin | with size too |
| 15:21.57 | nsadmin | ok, and that's the physical sizes? |
| 15:22.05 | linduxed | this according to "cfdisk /dev/sdb" |
| 15:22.12 | nsadmin | ok |
| 15:22.43 | nsadmin | so please create primary partitions for / and /boot on the new drive |
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| 15:23.08 | linduxed | i'll have to clean it first then, due to the fact that i have an experimental installation there |
| 15:23.22 | nsadmin | bunny69, the IP thing would have me confused as well, for example not sure how you'd ssh into separate vhosts with the same IP |
| 15:23.26 | linduxed | it can be removed, but i need to clean that away first |
| 15:23.45 | linduxed | oh wait, that's done |
| 15:23.52 | linduxed | forgot that it's that easy |
| 15:23.56 | linduxed | now then |
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| 15:24.28 | nsadmin | ok, so you want to create the partitions in low cyl numbers (at least for /boot) |
| 15:24.52 | nsadmin | is /exports the damaged partition? |
| 15:24.57 | linduxed | yes |
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| 15:25.09 | linduxed | i'm doing this in cfdisk btw, hope that works |
| 15:25.11 | nsadmin | ok, and we can restore that from the backup? |
| 15:25.25 | nsadmin | it should |
| 15:25.27 | bunny69 | nsadmin currently i don't need ssh there at all, just succesful apache setup |
| 15:25.28 | linduxed | yes, that i have backups of |
| 15:25.44 | nsadmin | ok, that's a good thing |
| 15:26.24 | nsadmin | bunny69, when a request is made to the web server, the name is used to tell apache what to do |
| 15:26.50 | linduxed | nsadmin: should i just try to recreate the setup of the old drive in cfdisk to the best of my abilities, basically/ |
| 15:26.54 | linduxed | ? |
| 15:26.57 | jubei | guys i noticed there's a pre-down rule for network interfaces. The question is, if I do shutdown -r (or -h) now, will the system run that rule? |
| 15:26.58 | nsadmin | so it's actually the same host, same apache, many virtual domains |
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| 15:27.22 | jubei | i.e. does the system bring the network interfaces down before restart or does it just ignore them and shutdown? |
| 15:27.46 | nsadmin | linduxed, we want to gradually wean the box off of the old drive, starting with / and /boot |
| 15:27.56 | nsadmin | so just do those for the moment |
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| 15:28.23 | linduxed | ok well i made a 300MB /boot at the start of the drive, then a 3000MB / right after that |
| 15:28.38 | nsadmin | sounds good |
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| 15:29.38 | linduxed | should i just try to cp the stuff over? |
| 15:29.49 | nsadmin | no, we're going to use tar |
| 15:29.53 | linduxed | ok... |
| 15:30.24 | linduxed | i'll just mount the sdb1 under /mnt so i can start the taring |
| 15:30.35 | nsadmin | it's worked for me every time and (while I think there might be cp success doing this particular thing), tar is the only thing I trust for this |
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| 15:31.01 | nsadmin | what's sdb1 for? |
| 15:31.08 | linduxed | that's /boot |
| 15:31.12 | nsadmin | new? |
| 15:31.19 | linduxed | nope, that's sda1 |
| 15:31.36 | bunny69 | nsadmin but what am i missing besides DocumentRoot in the vhost definition so apache serves the same directory for 2 domains? |
| 15:31.53 | linduxed | nsadmin: or well, sda1 is the empty 300MB large partition |
| 15:31.55 | nsadmin | so the new /boot is /sda1, the old one is sdb1? |
| 15:31.59 | linduxed | yes |
| 15:32.08 | bunny69 | both domains are set on same IP and this seems to be causing a problem but why? |
| 15:32.16 | nsadmin | ok, mount both of those and tell me the mount points |
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| 15:33.27 | nsadmin | bunny69, first off, this would be a discovery for both of us if I'm the one to try helping you... second, I need a bit of time |
| 15:33.50 | bunny69 | i read you |
| 15:34.06 | bunny69 | please take your time and whenever you can please get back to me |
| 15:34.16 | bunny69 | i really need some help, can't read docs all the time |
| 15:34.40 | nsadmin | one important thing is, the domain names have to resolve, which either means they're in /etc/hosts or they're active domains with name servers handling them |
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| 15:35.07 | bunny69 | yes, they both are resolving nicely being handled by ns |
| 15:35.19 | bunny69 | and no, they are NOT in /etc/hosts |
| 15:35.27 | bunny69 | should they? |
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| 15:35.53 | nsadmin | if they are resolving there is no need to be in /etc/hosts |
| 15:36.06 | bunny69 | both domains have record A in dns and both resolve to the same IP |
| 15:36.13 | bunny69 | ok i read you |
| 15:36.34 | nsadmin | cool... let me get him started |
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| 15:36.48 | bunny69 | ok :) |
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| 15:36.52 | asarch | Is there any other kernel besides 3.1.0-1-686-pae for testing? |
| 15:37.06 | themill | ,kernels --release wheezy |
| 15:37.07 | judd | Available kernel versions are: wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.9-1) |
| 15:37.12 | themill | asarch: ^^ |
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| 15:37.16 | nsadmin | linduxed, so the tar command you should use is dependent on where the two partitions are mounted. what are the mount points |
| 15:37.27 | asarch | How do you update (or change) your kernel in testing? |
| 15:37.34 | asarch | Thank you themill |
| 15:37.38 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
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| 15:37.50 | themill | bunny69: are you using the debian-provided /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ layout? |
| 15:37.59 | bunny69 | hm yes themill |
| 15:38.03 | linduxed | nsadmin: well the mountpoints for the /boot partitions are /mnt/old-boot and /mnt/new-boot |
| 15:38.10 | bunny69 | i use both sites-enabled and sites-available |
| 15:38.26 | asarch | dpkg-reconfigure kernel? |
| 15:38.31 | themill | bunny69: can you pastebin the sites-enabled/yoursite that is being problematic? |
| 15:38.31 | nsadmin | ok, here is the tar command you can use: |
| 15:38.35 | bunny69 | with the simplest virtualhost definition i could find and it worked until i wanted to hold more than 1 domain per IP |
| 15:38.37 | linduxed | nsadmin: the problem is that i can't mount the new root, because i get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' |
| 15:38.54 | bunny69 | themill yes i will in a sec |
| 15:38.59 | nsadmin | wait, you're using lvm? |
| 15:39.12 | themill | asarch: no, you need to install the relevant package. linux-image-686-pae should work in your case. |
| 15:39.32 | linduxed | nsadmin: you remember that i mentioned that the drive i'm moving to had an experimental installation that i said i could forfeit for this cause? |
| 15:39.37 | linduxed | nsadmin: that installation used LVM |
| 15:39.46 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 15:40.03 | nsadmin | so hold off on / for the moment |
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| 15:40.08 | linduxed | nsadmin: why the hell it still senses that after clearing the partition table in cfdisk and creating new partitions with new sizes.... |
| 15:40.15 | linduxed | that's beyond me |
| 15:40.54 | linduxed | ok, ill hold off with / for now |
| 15:41.00 | linduxed | what to do with boot |
| 15:41.10 | nsadmin | (cd /mnt/old-boot ; tar cfpl - .) | (cd /mnt/new-boot ; tar xfp -) |
| 15:41.16 | asarch | Thank you once again themill |
| 15:41.17 | asarch | :-) |
| 15:41.29 | nsadmin | those subshell parens are important... |
| 15:42.09 | themill | would use && not ; there for safety |
| 15:42.09 | linduxed | nsadmin: is that command zsh-compatible? |
| 15:42.17 | nsadmin | probably |
| 15:42.20 | linduxed | nsadmin: or wait... zsh is bash compatible |
| 15:42.23 | linduxed | *facepalm8 |
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| 15:42.57 | bunny69 | themill: http://pastebin.com/MDUAc8u9 |
| 15:43.08 | nsadmin | stop palming bunny69's face! :P |
| 15:43.13 | bunny69 | i tried to describe what is going on there |
| 15:43.31 | bunny69 | nsadmin nice one lol |
| 15:43.44 | linduxed | nsadmin: ehmm.... |
| 15:43.58 | nsadmin | linduxed, so that's going? |
| 15:44.10 | linduxed | nsadmin: i did that command, and it's finished within a fraction of a second |
| 15:44.13 | themill | bunny69: do you still have "NameVirtualHost *:80" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf (you should) |
| 15:44.16 | linduxed | nsadmin: like... at the speed of ls |
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| 15:44.19 | linduxed | with no output |
| 15:44.36 | bunny69 | themill i remember playing with that... let me check what i got in there |
| 15:44.37 | nsadmin | ok, sounds good... ls /mnt/new-boot |
| 15:44.43 | nsadmin | and look around, that look ok? |
| 15:44.52 | linduxed | nsadmin: hmmm, looks ok |
| 15:45.08 | nsadmin | ok, now we try / |
| 15:45.12 | linduxed | nsadmin: don't have md5deep or something like that to make sure, but i guess it'll work |
| 15:45.18 | sephii | bunny69: you shouldn't use an alias for that but a redirect to the www subdomain |
| 15:45.23 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok |
| 15:45.34 | linduxed | nsadmin: as said, i can't mount /dev/sdb2 |
| 15:45.37 | linduxed | sorry |
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| 15:45.39 | linduxed | sda2 |
| 15:45.41 | sidh | Greetings |
| 15:45.55 | nsadmin | ok, |
| 15:45.58 | bunny69 | themill: i have several listen lines in ports.conf (for diff IPs) and one of them is: Listen ip.which.both.domains.resolve.to:80 |
| 15:46.09 | bunny69 | sephii hm |
| 15:46.17 | sephii | bunny69: where's your domain.com vhost defined? |
| 15:46.33 | bunny69 | sephii it's in sites-enabled and sites-available |
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| 15:46.37 | themill | bunny69: that's not the important line... NameVirtualHost *:80 is the important thing, and with that you can then use "<VirtualHost *:80> ServerName www.example.com..." in each virtual hosts's definition. |
| 15:46.42 | linduxed | nsadmin: and when i try to do mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda2 it says that /dev/sda2 is apparently in use by the system |
| 15:46.47 | nsadmin | let's see... sda2 is the old / and sdb2 is the empty partjtion? |
| 15:46.58 | linduxed | nsadmin: other way around |
| 15:47.04 | linduxed | sda is the new drive |
| 15:47.07 | sephii | bunny69: please paste it as well, but here you should definitely have a ServerName instead of a ServerAlias |
| 15:47.07 | linduxed | sdb is the old one |
| 15:47.08 | bunny69 | themill did you mean NameVirtualHost *:80 in ports.conf? |
| 15:47.11 | sidh | I try to compile and install mysql-workbench 5.2.38 on debian stable amd64, and I'm facing this problem : No package 'gtkmm-2.4' found , any idea ? |
| 15:47.16 | nsadmin | ok |
| 15:47.25 | nsadmin | is the old / mounted? |
| 15:47.30 | linduxed | yes |
| 15:47.32 | themill | bunny69: yes. which was in there to begin with. |
| 15:47.37 | bunny69 | themill: what i have is: NameVirtualHost * <---is that wrong then? |
| 15:47.49 | bunny69 | sephii one more sec |
| 15:47.57 | linduxed | nsadmin: should we take this in a query, or is this a better place? |
| 15:48.47 | themill | sephii: in case you've missed it, there's some strange mixture of IP-based name-based virtual hosting going on here. I can't say I've ever tried to do that with apache2 (and my apache1.3 knowledge would both be rusty and unhelpful at this stage...) |
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| 15:49.44 | bunny69 | themill: i have changed to NameVirtualHost *.80 in ports.conf but the issue still exists |
| 15:49.50 | bunny69 | (restarted apache of course) |
| 15:49.59 | bunny69 | though i'm getting warnings like: |
| 15:50.00 | themill | bunny69: sure -- you have to configure the virtual host correctly too |
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| 15:50.13 | bunny69 | oh so this takes recofiguration of vhosts now |
| 15:50.19 | nsadmin | themill, isn't that typical of having one apache control several domains on the same IP? |
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| 15:50.30 | themill | nsadmin: sure. but that's not what bunny69 has at the moment |
| 15:50.33 | bunny69 | i'm getting a bunch of: mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undefined results |
| 15:50.41 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 15:50.58 | nsadmin | you mean due to the apache config? |
| 15:50.59 | bunny69 | i'm sure that my problem is very noobish... |
| 15:51.09 | bunny69 | ...i just don't get it |
| 15:51.21 | nsadmin | bunny69, beating yourself up is not permitted |
| 15:51.29 | bunny69 | he he |
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| 15:51.55 | bunny69 | themill so now: "<VirtualHost *:80> ServerName www.example.com..." in each virtual hosts's definition. ? |
| 15:52.00 | nsadmin | we;ll have to call you cryingbunny11111111 |
| 15:52.10 | bunny69 | smutbunny :) |
| 15:52.37 | nsadmin | too weak to even get to smut status... |
| 15:52.47 | bunny69 | doh |
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| 15:53.27 | sephii | themill: I think that could work, if the host is defined in NameVirtualHosts but yeah is looks like there's a mix between ServerName and VirtualHost |
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| 15:54.36 | linduxed | ok this is weird |
| 15:54.41 | sephii | bunny69: <VirtualHost *:80>ServerName www.example.com</VirtualHost> and <VirtualHost *:80>ServerName example.com</VirtualHost> |
| 15:54.48 | linduxed | i can't do umount /dev/sda2 |
| 15:54.53 | linduxed | it's not mounted |
| 15:55.09 | linduxed | but i can't do mkfs on it either, because it thinks it's used :-S |
| 15:55.10 | sephii | bunny69: also you should set the DocumentRoot only in your www.example.com vhost, and add a "Redirect permanent / http://www.example.com" in your second vhost |
| 15:55.48 | linduxed | OOOOH |
| 15:55.50 | nsadmin | getting weirder |
| 15:55.51 | linduxed | wait now |
| 15:56.00 | linduxed | /dev/mapper is filled with stuff |
| 15:56.13 | linduxed | systemrescue-cd must have automounted the lvm stuff |
| 15:56.15 | nsadmin | ok, try vgchange -a n |
| 15:56.18 | linduxed | gotta shut that down |
| 15:56.29 | bunny69 | themill, sephii: working on the new setup, brb |
| 15:56.37 | linduxed | 0 volumes active |
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| 15:56.49 | nsadmin | ok, now look in /dev/mapper |
| 15:56.51 | linduxed | now then |
| 15:56.55 | linduxed | mkfs running |
| 15:57.09 | nsadmin | oh, did thatwork? |
| 15:57.15 | linduxed | yeah |
| 15:57.25 | nsadmin | and you could mount the new /? |
| 15:57.26 | linduxed | just turned off all of those mapped volumes |
| 15:57.50 | linduxed | well i could at least do mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda2 |
| 15:57.54 | nsadmin | so the live cd must have done pvscan and vgchange -a y |
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| 15:57.58 | linduxed | probably |
| 15:58.12 | nsadmin | sdA2?? |
| 15:58.22 | linduxed | yeah |
| 15:58.22 | nsadmin | I thought that was the old root |
| 15:58.30 | linduxed | as stated B is old |
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| 15:58.32 | linduxed | A is new |
| 15:58.38 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 15:58.44 | linduxed | i know that's confusing |
| 15:58.49 | linduxed | but that's the way it is |
| 15:58.55 | nsadmin | np |
| 15:58.56 | bunny69 | themill, sephii: what has happened now is that the virtual host of domain.com is being served from main website located in /var/www just like there was no vhost defined... |
| 15:59.02 | linduxed | there |
| 15:59.07 | linduxed | ext3 on that thing |
| 15:59.15 | linduxed | let's try mounting it to /mnt/new-root |
| 15:59.17 | nsadmin | ok, mount it somewhere |
| 15:59.25 | linduxed | done |
| 15:59.35 | linduxed | got /mnt/old-root and /mnt/new-root |
| 15:59.45 | nsadmin | ok, |
| 15:59.50 | maurer | I'm in the debian installer, is there a good way to set custom mount options it doesn't know about? |
| 15:59.55 | maurer | I want to ask it to use the "discard" option |
| 16:00.01 | maurer | but it's not in the list of available mount options |
| 16:00.08 | themill | bunny69: what does "apache2ctl -S" say? (put it in a pastebin) |
| 16:00.13 | nsadmin | (cd /mnt/old-root ; tar cfpl - .) | (cd /mnt/new-root ; tar xfp -) |
| 16:01.03 | linduxed | nsadmin: running |
| 16:01.06 | Ghrim | I can't seem to delete a user. I've tried deluser and userdel -rf but the user still remains in /etc/passwd... help? |
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| 16:01.09 | linduxed | nsadmin: takes a bit longer |
| 16:01.16 | linduxed | nsadmin: can't this be done with -v ? |
| 16:01.17 | nsadmin | it's done? |
| 16:01.26 | linduxed | no not yet |
| 16:01.39 | linduxed | or will the -v mess up the piping? |
| 16:01.43 | nsadmin | I suppose, but again, I'm not so trusting of cp |
| 16:01.56 | nsadmin | yeah, it will mess up the pipe |
| 16:02.05 | linduxed | hmm, too bad |
| 16:02.10 | nsadmin | are you running in console? |
| 16:02.16 | linduxed | yeah |
| 16:02.22 | maurer | So is the reccomended method just to edit /etc/fstab during the install? |
| 16:02.29 | nsadmin | that will slow you down a LOT |
| 16:02.35 | linduxed | nsadmin: why is that? |
| 16:02.43 | linduxed | nsadmin: I'm in a tty |
| 16:02.53 | linduxed | nsadmin: done btw |
| 16:03.02 | nsadmin | dunno, someone said the other day the VCs are much slower than (say) xterm |
| 16:03.10 | linduxed | oh... |
| 16:03.17 | nsadmin | levels of magnitude even |
| 16:03.36 | nsadmin | did you put the v on the second tar? |
| 16:03.42 | nsadmin | or both tars? |
| 16:03.44 | linduxed | no |
| 16:03.46 | nsadmin | or ? |
| 16:03.50 | linduxed | didn't add any -v |
| 16:03.55 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 16:04.06 | nsadmin | then you won't get slowed down :) |
| 16:04.14 | linduxed | oh |
| 16:04.16 | linduxed | good |
| 16:04.19 | linduxed | well anyway |
| 16:04.26 | nsadmin | so it's safe to put v on the second tar |
| 16:04.26 | linduxed | i'll check if it copied the stuff |
| 16:04.59 | linduxed | nsadmin: looks copied |
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| 16:05.13 | thewanderer1 | why is the ABI of xserver-xorg in squeeze-backports labeled as "12" instead of "7"? did it really change since Squeeze, or is it an arbitrary choice? |
| 16:05.36 | themill | thewanderer1: ABI ≠ version number |
| 16:05.56 | maurer | Is there a way to run stble by default, tubt have other repositories available if a package wants a newer version of something as a dependency? |
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| 16:06.00 | maurer | *stable |
| 16:06.01 | thewanderer1 | themill, I know. however, xf86-input-wacom loads on Squeeze, while it does not on backports. |
| 16:06.06 | nsadmin | the next step is to boot your system in such a way where it mounts the new / |
| 16:06.23 | thewanderer1 | maurer, apt pinning. only for the brave. |
| 16:06.38 | thewanderer1 | (you should be using backports if possible) |
| 16:06.43 | zumbi | there was an ABI change on Xorg input devices |
| 16:06.49 | linduxed | nsadmin: well i checked, root seems fine |
| 16:06.55 | nsadmin | ok |
| 16:07.28 | maurer | thewanderer1: So, I'm installing on a new machine and I'm trying to make sure debian's suitable for my purposes. However, while I am fine with most packages not beeing bleeding edge, there are certain ones that I need the version from say, yesterday. |
| 16:07.29 | nsadmin | we;re going to keep the old /boot for the moment |
| 16:07.36 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok i see |
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| 16:07.46 | thewanderer1 | zumbi, oh... wacom probably hasn't adapted, then. not good... |
| 16:08.03 | themill | thewanderer1: the package is also in backports -- is the bpo package not compatible with the bpo xorg? |
| 16:08.05 | linduxed | nsadmin: wait, what do you mean by "keep"? i've already copied the old boot to the new boot |
| 16:08.07 | maurer | thewanderer1: I am wondering whether there's some reasonable way to deal with the dependencies for such a package |
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| 16:08.32 | thewanderer1 | themill, which package, namely? I only saw xserver-xorg-input-wacom in bpo, which does not support my hardware |
| 16:08.35 | zumbi | thewanderer1: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTYwOQ |
| 16:08.40 | nsadmin | for the new /, we will need to edit the /etc/fstab, first we're commenting out the /exports line |
| 16:08.55 | themill | thewanderer1: yes, that package. It's backported, but not a backport of the latest |
| 16:08.58 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok |
| 16:09.01 | nsadmin | and take a look at the / mount |
| 16:09.20 | thewanderer1 | themill, yeah, I needed the newest release... |
| 16:09.31 | themill | thewanderer1: judd says that xserver-xorg-input-wacom is quite backportable... you could just try it out ;) |
| 16:09.39 | nsadmin | show that line (with a space first) |
| 16:09.41 | thewanderer1 | themill, just uupdate and go? hmm |
| 16:09.48 | themill | thewanderer1: err.. no... /msg dpkg ssb |
| 16:10.26 | Mephisto | can anyone tell me why do they put patches on official linux kernel website? |
| 16:10.29 | Mephisto | how do i apply them? |
| 16:10.32 | thewanderer1 | themill, aha, you're implying that the one in sid works |
| 16:10.53 | linduxed | nsadmin: LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1 |
| 16:11.08 | maurer | thewanderer1: Basically, since my other machines are primarily gentoo, I'm wondering if there's a way that I can get debian stability for _most_ packages, and then have some subset of them (say, haskell development libraries, llvm, and a modern gcc) be bleeding edge and unstable |
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| 16:11.33 | maurer | In the past I've just gotten this by having _everything_ be bleeding edge but this has seemed a bit silly |
| 16:11.36 | nsadmin | ok, replace LABEL=/ with /dev/sda2 |
| 16:11.37 | thewanderer1 | maurer, yes, backports and maybe apt pinning |
| 16:11.41 | maurer | OK |
| 16:11.49 | nsadmin | this is temporary, we'll use the label again later |
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| 16:12.03 | linduxed | ok |
| 16:12.10 | linduxed | should i do the same for /boot? |
| 16:12.12 | nsadmin | now show the /boot line |
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| 16:12.36 | nsadmin | we want /boot to be /dev/sdb1 (the old one) |
| 16:12.43 | linduxed | nsadmin: LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 |
| 16:12.53 | linduxed | new-boot is ext2 btw |
| 16:13.01 | linduxed | hope that wont mess things up |
| 16:13.14 | nsadmin | ok, then you'd have to change the fstab entry |
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| 16:13.25 | nsadmin | wait, not yet tho |
| 16:13.33 | linduxed | ok |
| 16:13.50 | nsadmin | because we want the old one which should be ext3? |
| 16:13.57 | linduxed | yeah |
| 16:13.59 | linduxed | it probably is |
| 16:14.06 | nsadmin | ok |
| 16:14.07 | linduxed | i can double check though |
| 16:14.22 | linduxed | yeah |
| 16:14.24 | linduxed | it's ext3 |
| 16:14.55 | nsadmin | while you're double checking, we want to edit /mnt/old-boot/grub/grub.conf |
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| 16:15.26 | nsadmin | find the stanza where it boots normally |
| 16:16.04 | nsadmin | should be like 3-5 lines which maybe good idea to pastebin those, and if you're hav ing trouble finding it, pastebin the whole file |
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| 16:17.24 | linduxed | it's ok |
| 16:17.35 | linduxed | i think i can handle grub.conf :-P |
| 16:17.44 | linduxed | ok what now |
| 16:17.45 | chaser12 | Ive got a service that stars automatically at login, however it fails eachtime for some reason and I have to manually restart it. Is there a way to just delay its startup until possibly other service it depends on have been started? |
| 16:19.08 | nsadmin | sec |
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| 16:21.38 | nsadmin | linduxed, that grub and grub.conf is on the old drive and old /boot |
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| 16:21.54 | nsadmin | you want that to refer to the new / |
| 16:22.02 | linduxed | ok |
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| 16:22.32 | nsadmin | and then, with /exports commented out on the new /etc/fstab, you can try a boot |
| 16:23.24 | linduxed | i think i've got some more stuff to comment out apart from /export |
| 16:23.24 | nsadmin | oh, you might want to put single on the kernel entry for the grub.conf |
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| 16:24.00 | linduxed | first of aall |
| 16:24.01 | nsadmin | we want the other partitions (unless you suspect other partitions bad) |
| 16:24.12 | linduxed | oh you meant that way |
| 16:24.27 | linduxed | then yeah, i'll only comment out /export, if commenting out bad partitions is the cause |
| 16:24.32 | nsadmin | we just want to comment out /exports cause that's the bad one |
| 16:24.36 | linduxed | ok |
| 16:24.39 | linduxed | i see now |
| 16:24.55 | nsadmin | becasue you're going to make a new one and restore anyway |
| 16:25.07 | linduxed | ok |
| 16:25.12 | linduxed | hmmm |
| 16:25.35 | nsadmin | the goal right now is to get / from the new drive |
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| 16:25.47 | linduxed | currently the top grub entry has "root (hd0,0)" |
| 16:25.58 | davide_at_debian | hello. I'm trying to save the content of a dead website nowadays unreachable by the regular DNS/address, but it is still stored inside google's cache, nearly intact. So I tryed to crawl that cache, but after some pages, Google bothers I'm abusing its service and blocks me from accessing the cache. Do you know some alternative cache freely crawable I could use? |
| 16:26.06 | linduxed | that would be referring to what is now sdb1 |
| 16:26.07 | nsadmin | hmm. that's menu.lst? |
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| 16:26.14 | linduxed | i've got grub.conf |
| 16:26.19 | linduxed | not menu.lst |
| 16:26.24 | linduxed | this is an OLD server |
| 16:26.30 | linduxed | think stoneage |
| 16:26.46 | nsadmin | is it grub1? |
| 16:26.46 | linduxed | the kernel it boots is 2.6.9 |
| 16:26.48 | linduxed | that fucking old |
| 16:26.54 | linduxed | everything on it is from that time |
| 16:27.26 | nsadmin | ok, look at /mnt/ umm |
| 16:27.30 | nsadmin | sec. |
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| 16:29.41 | davide_at_debian | Do you knew Google offers a webcache with historic versions of websites? |
| 16:29.55 | sknrn | if i want to run a webserver off my machine, should a create a web-admin user or group that owns the web root, and work from there? |
| 16:30.05 | sidh | do you know how can I install gtkmm 2.4 on debian squeeze ? |
| 16:30.41 | floh` | hi |
| 16:31.25 | nsadmin | ok, look at /mnt/old-boot/grub/device.map |
| 16:31.27 | floh` | i'd like to luksSuspend the disk containing my root-partition upon entering s2ram mode. and i want my laptop wake up afterwards again. |
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| 16:32.00 | floh` | i think i'll have to create some kind of ram-fs containing statically linked versions of cryptsetup, pm-suspend and probably some more... |
| 16:32.20 | linduxed | nsadmin: (fd0) /dev/fd0 and (hd0) /dev/sda |
| 16:32.36 | floh` | can you tell me which programs i'll need in order to go to sleep completely, then wake up again and unlock my luks-device again (via luksResume)? |
| 16:32.40 | nsadmin | and sda is the new drive |
| 16:32.58 | linduxed | nsadmin: when i'm looking at it through this live-cd |
| 16:33.23 | linduxed | nsadmin: but had i booted into the old environment, the new drive would probably have been sdb |
| 16:33.30 | Owner | davide_at_debian~# thats called the wayback machine...and no google doesnt do it because google sucks |
| 16:33.45 | nsadmin | linduxed, hmmm... |
| 16:33.55 | linduxed | nsadmin: considering this device.map from the old env says sda and is referring to the old drive that is |
| 16:34.04 | nsadmin | we'll figure that out in a minute |
| 16:34.08 | linduxed | nsadmin: wait |
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| 16:34.35 | linduxed | nsadmin: this could be caused by the fact that in the BIOS of this computer, the hard drive boot sequence of the drives is reversed |
| 16:35.03 | linduxed | nsadmin: the new drive is number 0 and the old one is number 1 |
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| 16:35.13 | nsadmin | then maybe we better use uuids |
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| 16:35.28 | linduxed | nsadmin: however, the boot order of them is reverse, due to the fact that the old one needs to boot |
| 16:35.36 | linduxed | nsadmin: either is fine |
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| 16:35.46 | linduxed | it's just one reboot after all to adjust one letter |
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| 16:35.59 | nsadmin | yeah... |
| 16:36.13 | nsadmin | ok, see if you have a /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 16:36.30 | davide_at_debian | Owner: no doubt about Google suck, and I even tryed a website called nearly "waybackmachine.com" that stored historic archives |
| 16:36.31 | linduxed | yes |
| 16:36.55 | linduxed | it's got 7 uuid things, and one think called FCAC-015F |
| 16:36.58 | linduxed | *thing |
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| 16:37.24 | davide_at_debian | Owner: but those are absolutely obsoleted pages, archivied between 2004 and 2008 |
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| 16:37.35 | nsadmin | ok, you know those are links? find /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb1 |
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| 16:37.49 | Owner | davide_at_debian~# http://www.archive.org/index.php |
| 16:38.24 | linduxed | nsadmin: FFFFUUUUU |
| 16:38.38 | linduxed | nsadmin: i did cat 1209someUUID |
| 16:38.45 | linduxed | now my shell is fucked up |
| 16:38.56 | nsadmin | try reset :) |
| 16:39.05 | linduxed | oh thx |
| 16:39.08 | davide_at_debian | Owner: instead I saw the same pages on google's cache are really recent, from even early this month, when the website i'm trying to crawl failed in downtime. |
| 16:39.09 | linduxed | didn't know of that |
| 16:39.30 | nsadmin | you can use ls -l or readlink |
| 16:39.43 | linduxed | yeah, i figured now that that's what i need to do |
| 16:39.50 | nsadmin | cat just gets you the content of the drive :) |
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| 16:40.09 | linduxed | and what was it that i should get here? the new boot? |
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| 16:40.12 | linduxed | the new root? |
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| 16:40.28 | nsadmin | the new root and the old boot |
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| 16:41.03 | linduxed | and this i should append to? |
| 16:41.07 | linduxed | the grub.conf? |
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| 16:41.46 | davide_at_debian | Owner: mmm... http://wayback.archive.org got only 1 date, in far 2004 ... |
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| 16:41.57 | Owner | ok well |
| 16:42.01 | Owner | what site is it |
| 16:42.12 | nsadmin | you want UUID=(the new root uuid) in place of where it says in the kernel line root=/dev/somethjing |
| 16:42.14 | davide_at_debian | Owner: forum.freeciv.org |
| 16:42.29 | Owner | i see... |
| 16:42.42 | davide_at_debian | and it's been down all the last week, with nobody knowing anything |
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| 16:43.10 | scampbell | Does debconf provide any method of parsing it's multichoice fields. (comma+space delimited)? |
| 16:43.10 | Owner | maybe obama shut it down |
| 16:43.25 | davide_at_debian | I think I'll stick with google's cache, and try not to overflow its limits |
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| 16:44.09 | davide_at_debian | but that would undergo a very very long crawling time, like 2 weeks, for just a bunch of pages |
| 16:44.11 | thomaschaaf | Hello, I have a TP-Link tl-wn723n usb dongle. I got it run with the driver r8712u but after I create a connection with wpa_suplicants iwlist wlan0 scan will always say: "No scan results" after I rmmod r8712u && modprobe r8712u iwlist wlan0 scan works fine again. Does anyone know the cause for this? Also it's a: RTL8188SU |
| 16:44.44 | linduxed | nsadmin: done |
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| 16:45.36 | nsadmin | ok, so you should have something like kernel <filename> ... root=UUID=(somethjing) ... single |
| 16:45.44 | Owner | davide_at_debian~# why do you want to crawl a forum |
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| 16:46.05 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: my RTL8188CE has issues as well, I think the reltek drivers are just crap for these chipsets. |
| 16:46.14 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: what kernel are you using? |
| 16:46.26 | thomaschaaf | somiaj: 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 16:46.27 | linduxed | nsadmin: fixed the single part |
| 16:46.31 | linduxed | nsadmin: reboot time? |
| 16:46.35 | thomaschaaf | somiaj: same problem? |
| 16:46.36 | davide_at_debian | Owner: to re-put it online on a new domain. It woulnd't be impossible the sole admin died, and nobody still know nothing. |
| 16:46.47 | nsadmin | no not yet, got the old boot uuid? |
| 16:46.48 | linduxed | or should i pop into the new-root fstab? |
| 16:47.02 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: I have lots of strange wireless issues with it not wanting to autheniticate with large networks with multiple AP's and find reloading the module fixes things. |
| 16:47.14 | linduxed | nsadmin: i got it, but what should i do with it? |
| 16:47.20 | linduxed | put it into the new fstab? |
| 16:47.23 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: I really try to wire in my laptop whenever I can as I don't like wireless. (: |
| 16:47.28 | nsadmin | yeah, and put UUID=(new root) in for / and UUID=(old boot) for /boot |
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| 16:47.36 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: did you install the firmware from backports as well? |
| 16:47.45 | Owner | davide_at_debian~# :/ |
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| 16:48.19 | thomaschaaf | somiaj: yes bpo says that a package is backports right? |
| 16:48.28 | thomaschaaf | I have 0.35~bpo60 |
| 16:48.29 | davide_at_debian | Owner: and it's not even funny relunching a service in this circumstance. |
| 16:48.39 | Owner | davide_at_debian~# i guess google cache is all you've got...but that snot going to be very useful |
| 16:48.41 | MRCracker | hi all, i have upgraded my kde to 4.7 from 4.6 in debain testing but when i want to login plasma crashs and i can't access my deskyop |
| 16:48.44 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: yes, you can also use apt-cache policy firmware-realtek |
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| 16:48.54 | Owner | davide_at_debian~# and it would be hard to ask for a dead guys data |
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| 16:49.06 | nsadmin | linduxed, right now our goal is to get it booted with nothing changed except the new root |
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| 16:49.17 | somiaj | MRCracker: how did you upgrade, did 4.7 make it into testing andt his is just a normal upgrade, or are you pulling the packages from sid (or somewhere else)? |
| 16:49.53 | davide_at_debian | Owner: nearly all the pages are intact. I 'd just need to set an high delay between each page crawled, to avoid google from detecting an abuse |
| 16:50.18 | nsadmin | (maybe it won't mount say /var, if that happens maybe we come back to live cd boot and get uuids for all the other old-drive partitions then try booting again |
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| 16:50.28 | thomaschaaf | somiaj: I really don't understand why the drivers are non-free though.. what good is there for realtek that they can only see the drivers? |
| 16:50.30 | nsadmin | ) |
| 16:50.42 | Owner | davide_at_debian~# just use more ips |
| 16:50.51 | davide_at_debian | Owner: but still, that's not an optimal way. But perhaps the only one which could restore nearly every page. |
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| 16:51.27 | linduxed | nsadmin: should i add it as UUID=stuffhere or just as stuffhere? |
| 16:51.34 | linduxed | in the first column |
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| 16:51.46 | nsadmin | UUID= |
| 16:51.47 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: its a legal issue. Wirless cards to comply with the wireless signal laws have to have complete control over things, they do this by shipping non-free firmware (a binary blob we have no legal right to modify). The free (opensource) drivers in the kernel then just talk to the firmware. |
| 16:51.58 | MRCracker | somiaj: it is a normal upgrade |
| 16:52.18 | thomaschaaf | that makes sense :) |
| 16:52.20 | nsadmin | right in first col |
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| 16:52.40 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: over all I don't mind non-free firmware as I would rather have a firmware file (than have to flash the firmware on the card). I just think realtek doesn't put much effort into testing the linux side, overall my experience with their drivers has been poor. |
| 16:52.47 | somiaj | MRCracker: then check the bts first. |
| 16:53.05 | davide_at_debian | Owner: yes. that may be a solution. |
| 16:53.12 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok that looks better |
| 16:53.18 | linduxed | nsadmin: a question though |
| 16:53.32 | nsadmin | you could try a boot whenever |
| 16:53.33 | linduxed | nsadmin: the old env had a separate partition for var and a swap |
| 16:53.53 | linduxed | nsadmin: the swap is irrelevant i guess, but the /var... |
| 16:53.59 | linduxed | shouldn't we fix that too? |
| 16:53.59 | nsadmin | we want it to get those from the old drive |
| 16:54.17 | nsadmin | we can do that after you boot |
| 16:54.21 | linduxed | ok sure |
| 16:54.21 | MRCracker | somiaj: bts?? |
| 16:54.25 | linduxed | rebooting then |
| 16:54.41 | thomaschaaf | somiaj: actually I have a RTL8188CE on another computer and that works really well |
| 16:54.45 | nsadmin | you can... but I still need a break and want to go get a burger or somethjing :) |
| 16:55.34 | linduxed | well it's rebooting now, i'll see if it works |
| 16:55.43 | linduxed | well it's booting something |
| 16:55.48 | linduxed | omg |
| 16:55.52 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: Mine works well on a small home network in which I don't use a network-manager. |
| 16:56.00 | linduxed | kernel panic - not syncing attempted to kill init! |
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| 16:56.17 | linduxed | something seems wrong |
| 16:56.24 | thomaschaaf | somiaj: I will have to see :) new to linux and wifi |
| 16:56.25 | nsadmin | yeah |
| 16:56.33 | somiaj | thomaschaaf: on a large network with multiple AP's it doesn't associate correctly, and network-manager can get it to cause a kernel panic when it keeps brining the device up and down. I also get a very large lag with NM on the card. |
| 16:56.38 | nsadmin | well lemme go eat something |
| 16:56.42 | linduxed | hmm |
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| 16:56.53 | linduxed | maybe we should just try to boot from the new boot? |
| 16:57.05 | linduxed | i mean, i can make that partition bootable and it should work right? |
| 16:57.28 | thomaschaaf | somiaj: what I like less is that the SU card always does this: wlan1 unassociated Nickname:"rtl_wifi" |
| 16:57.33 | nsadmin | well the only problem I see is grub is not installed on the new drive |
| 16:57.46 | linduxed | oh you mean in the MBR |
| 16:57.52 | thomaschaaf | and I can't get any info about the card with iwlist |
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| 16:58.06 | nsadmin | I think so... and, did you install grub in the partition boot sector? |
| 16:58.28 | linduxed | nsadmin: wait a minute... you remember that i mentioned that experimental install? |
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| 16:58.34 | linduxed | nsadmin: that was a debian install |
| 16:58.42 | linduxed | nsadmin: it installed grub into the MBR |
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| 16:59.11 | linduxed | nsadmin: but maybe there will be some messed up mismatch considering that was grub2 and this is grub1 |
| 16:59.25 | MRCracker | somiaj: what is bts? |
| 16:59.26 | nsadmin | anyway, lemme get food |
| 16:59.31 | linduxed | nsadmin: sure thing |
| 16:59.31 | nsadmin | !bts |
| 16:59.31 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 17:02.36 | somiaj | MRCracker: someone who runs testing should know about the bts. Now it is time you learn. |
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| 17:03.08 | doofundrot | Hi Guys, Whats the best way to play windows games on linux? |
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| 17:03.21 | doofundrot | (without installing a windows partiton) |
| 17:04.57 | somiaj | doofundrot: depends on the game, but wine will play many games, check out winehq.org then go check their app database to see how well your paticular game runs in linux (via wine) |
| 17:05.01 | somiaj | doofundrot: note that debian |
| 17:05.07 | davide_at_debian | Ah, just to point out details.. that google cache even blocks user agents identified as "Wget" |
| 17:05.40 | Todd | though you can pass a real user agent when using wget if you so choose |
| 17:05.45 | somiaj | doofundrot: note that debian's version of wine is fairly old, if you are running squeeze you'll probabaly have to compile it yourself and it will take a little bit of work. |
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| 17:06.13 | Todd | there should be some prepackages binaries out there to keep you from having to compile yourself |
| 17:06.25 | Todd | s/es/ed/ |
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| 17:06.35 | davide_at_debian | Todd: yes, passing Iceweasel's UA string makes it unlock the block and work. |
| 17:07.10 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok this explains a thing or two... when i boot up into systemrescue-cd again and try to mount /dev/sda2 (the new root) it tells me "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" |
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| 17:07.32 | linduxed | nsadmin: then when i try to do -t ext3 it tells me that it's wrong fs type |
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| 17:08.05 | somiaj | Todd: not for squeeze |
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| 17:08.21 | somiaj | Todd: there are some unoffical wine 1.5 packages for sid. |
| 17:08.30 | doofundrot | somiaj: Thx will try I only want to play Starcraft II do I need playonlinux then or is wine itself enough to play the game? |
| 17:08.34 | Todd | somiaj, mm.. we'll need to fix that then :) |
| 17:09.06 | somiaj | Todd: unless someones offers to make them for squeeze, I doubt the debian dev making the 1.5 packages wants to backport them. |
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| 17:09.25 | Todd | packaging stuff is easy enough.. I'll take a peek when I get home from work. |
| 17:09.36 | daemon | hey all there is a way to get a minimal debian (cli) only and remove apache and any other crap that might have ben installed |
| 17:09.38 | Todd | though i have to be honest in that I typically run ubuntu on workstations and debian on servers |
| 17:09.39 | daemon | can anyone recall what it is |
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| 17:09.59 | linduxed | nsadmin: well i did a mkfs.ext3 once more on sda2 (new root), and it went really quick, doing the tar thing again for root |
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| 17:10.00 | somiaj | doofundrot: blizard games have tradtionally had good support in wine, and I don't think starcraft II will be different. I don't know for surce, check the app database, but that is a new enough game you will have to compile your own copy of wine (I would just install it in /usr/local as that will be the easiest) |
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| 17:10.29 | valdyn | starcraft 2 works fairly ok in wine, but its not usable for competetive multiplayer gaming |
| 17:10.38 | doofundrot | somiaj: kk |
| 17:10.38 | somiaj | Todd: yea I make my own custome wine packages, but debian likes to split things up into various binary packages, and I think that is where the issue is. |
| 17:11.50 | doofundrot | somiaj: Is there any alternative though? On OSX I always used Parallels Desktop on linux I tried to play games using virtual box but that doesn't went well though |
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| 17:12.17 | somiaj | Todd: http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ -- those are nice, but I wish he would make a 1.4 (as opposed to tracking the unstable branch and try to make squeeze packages) |
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| 17:13.13 | somiaj | doofundrot: as long as you are running a x86 cpu, wine is better than virtuailization. Issue with vbox is no direct access to the video card |
| 17:13.27 | Todd | nice |
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| 17:14.21 | somiaj | doofundrot: I have heard some talk about getting virtuilization to give more direct access to the hardware, but you really don't need emulation and I think the api translation of wine is a better approach (second to companies actually making linux native games) |
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| 17:16.49 | daemon | how do I uninstall all non essential packages |
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| 17:17.14 | somiaj | daemon: you can use aptitude to search packages based on priority |
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| 17:17.33 | somiaj | daemon: what is it you want to do though? You most likely want every package of standard priority and higher |
| 17:17.49 | daemon | somiaj, I just got a new vps and its got a very small amount of disk I only want to run haproxy on it |
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| 17:17.56 | daemon | so I want to uninstall apache and all the other crap they auto installed |
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| 17:18.53 | somiaj | I would just uninstall the things you don't want. |
| 17:19.04 | daemon | there appears to be quite alot of stuff I do not want |
| 17:19.05 | somiaj | as opposed to try to uninstall all packages of a paticular priority |
| 17:19.08 | daemon | so I was hoping for a way to automatically strip them |
| 17:19.22 | daemon | there was a command that is stored on the bot here I just cannot remember howto trigger it to tell me the command |
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| 17:19.30 | somiaj | daemon: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html |
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| 17:20.15 | somiaj | aptitude search ~i~priority(required) |
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| 17:20.44 | somiaj | or aptitude search ~i~prequired |
| 17:20.57 | somiaj | aptitude search ~i~poptional |
| 17:21.18 | somiaj | (sorry do the second one, you don't want to remove required packages) but that last one will list all installed packages with the optional prioerity |
| 17:21.40 | somiaj | you may also want to search for things with priority extra as well. |
| 17:21.40 | daemon | wow alot of crap |
| 17:21.50 | daemon | why on earth did they install samba (0_o) |
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| 17:22.01 | somiaj | I am not your vps. (: |
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| 17:22.16 | daemon | so anyway to just auto uninstall that list |
| 17:22.33 | daemon | I really with there was pkg_delete -a on debian -_- |
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| 17:25.29 | somiaj | daemon: I would just pipe that list into an apt-get --purge remove with xargs. |
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| 17:26.28 | somiaj | aptitude may have a better way to go about that. |
| 17:26.33 | daemon | ah gotcha |
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| 17:34.37 | bunny69 | i'm seriously tired of this shit... [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence |
| 17:34.44 | ikonia | bunny69: fix it |
| 17:34.55 | ikonia | you've got a named host and an overlapping IP host ? |
| 17:35.05 | bunny69 | i have no idea what i got anymore |
| 17:35.08 | ikonia | ooh |
| 17:35.14 | bunny69 | i spent like 6 hours on this already |
| 17:35.26 | bunny69 | and i totally broke my vhosts |
| 17:35.26 | themill | bunny69: what does "apache2ctl -S" say? (put it in a pastebin) |
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| 17:35.39 | bunny69 | hello again themill |
| 17:35.49 | bunny69 | lots of crap in there... |
| 17:35.58 | bunny69 | i think it's time to start from scratch |
| 17:36.17 | bunny69 | but without understanding what i'm doing it makes only a little sense |
| 17:36.35 | bunny69 | i might consider switching to another httpd |
| 17:36.44 | bunny69 | because apache is just too funked up.. |
| 17:36.58 | bunny69 | it was all fine until 1.3 |
| 17:37.20 | bunny69 | and docs are written by a geek for geeks only |
| 17:37.31 | themill | actually, vhosts are much much easier for apache 2.2 than they ever were for 1.3 |
| 17:37.39 | bunny69 | lots of bullshit while basic stuff just doesn't fcnk work |
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| 17:38.06 | bunny69 | look, how many hours more do i need to make the basic vhost setup running... |
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| 17:38.15 | Sexy_GirL | www.fungames22.com play online games :) |
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| 17:38.16 | bunny69 | this is madness |
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| 17:38.32 | themill | bunny69: you need to start answering the questions asked of you if you want help |
| 17:38.53 | bunny69 | i can't even get the default vhost running now |
| 17:38.59 | robin_debspace1 | Hi everyone :-) Are there any fail2ban experts in here? :-) |
| 17:39.11 | bunny69 | and docs explain it clearly and it seems like 3 mins. work |
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| 17:39.52 | bunny69 | enough of this shit... switching to lighttpd |
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| 17:40.26 | themill | *shrug* we can't help you if you won't help us do so. |
| 17:40.55 | bunny69 | i have like ten lines of output in apache2ctl and i can't make it public |
| 17:41.03 | bunny69 | all the ips, domains, etc. |
| 17:41.10 | bunny69 | how am i supposed to tell you what's there |
| 17:41.11 | ksk | oh, ips and domains |
| 17:41.28 | ksk | if your security relies on that :p |
| 17:41.43 | ksk | i can undestand, but output may become kinda useless without ips and hostnames ;) |
| 17:42.05 | bunny69 | many thanks for your time, themill |
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| 17:46.15 | robin_debspace1 | Aren't there any fail2ban users around??? :-( |
| 17:46.17 | doofundrot | Do you guys can recommend me any email clients for linux? |
| 17:46.29 | doofundrot | I am using thunderbird atm but it is ways to heavywight |
| 17:46.48 | robin_debspace1 | doofundrot Use Mutt… :-) |
| 17:47.18 | doofundrot | robin_debspace1: I already heard of it but it seems to be very hard to configure |
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| 17:48.41 | robin_debspace1 | doofundrot Well, it's command line based, but it isn't too hard to use depending what you wanna do with it… Should be OK especially if you're looking for something "lightweight". |
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| 17:51.25 | mark_u | hi everoyne. I realize this may not be the correct channel but I have a debian system with an LSI MegaRAID card and I monitor it using the megasasctl and megacli tools. Recently the drives in my array are showing "other" errors, not "media". Does anyone know what this means or how I can further analyze it? |
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| 17:53.46 | doofundrot | robin_debspace1: Maybe I should try it again...but last time I used it it was such a pain in the ass maybe I didn't read the wiki careful enough |
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| 17:55.51 | linduxed | nsadmin: hmmm, even more interesting is that the UUID change between reboots it seems (which could be causing the kernel panics). i just rebooted into the sysrecue-cd and the UUIDs were all different |
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| 17:56.45 | linduxed | nsadmin: or wait... i might be wrong on that one |
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| 18:07.25 | linduxed | nsadmin: actually, no they're the same |
| 18:07.33 | linduxed | ok this is pissing me off |
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| 18:07.52 | nsadmin | which they? |
| 18:07.53 | linduxed | the thing kernel panics, and the last things that go wrong are the following |
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| 18:07.59 | JohnWittle | where does debian store syslog.conf by default? It isn't in /etc |
| 18:08.01 | linduxed | nsadmin: UUIds |
| 18:08.20 | linduxed | the things that happens at the kernel panic isthe following |
| 18:08.31 | linduxed | with semicolon = newline |
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| 18:08.38 | nsadmin | JohnWittle, do you have syslog installed? |
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| 18:09.43 | JohnWittle | nsadmin: aha, rsyslogd is the new syslogd? :D sounds like fun |
| 18:09.56 | linduxed | Creating root device ; Mounting root filesystem ; mount: error 6 mounting ext3 ; mount: error 2 mounting none ; Switching to new root ; switchroot: mount failed 22 ; umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 ; Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 18:10.37 | nsadmin | linduxed, so it's at the point of mount / |
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| 18:11.04 | nsadmin | is the new / ext2? |
| 18:11.08 | linduxed | no |
| 18:11.10 | linduxed | ext3 |
| 18:11.28 | nsadmin | ok |
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| 18:12.34 | nsadmin | they could have gotten same uuiuds if partn was dded |
| 18:12.51 | linduxed | it hasn't been |
| 18:13.08 | nsadmin | weerrd |
| 18:13.33 | philipp | !wheeze |
| 18:13.33 | dpkg | Debian 6.0 <stable> is codenamed <squeeze>. The current <testing> distribution, which will be released as Debian 7.0, is codenamed <wheezy>. There is no "squeezy" or "wheeze". |
| 18:13.51 | linduxed | this stuff is soooo damn irritating |
| 18:14.04 | linduxed | let me get one thing straigt |
| 18:14.10 | linduxed | *straight |
| 18:14.14 | linduxed | now that i get this far |
| 18:14.19 | themill | philipp: you've been told to /msg the bot several times. And do you really expect that to have changed in last couple of days since you did it several times? |
| 18:14.27 | linduxed | it must be finding the /boot on the old drive, right? |
| 18:14.38 | linduxed | otherwise it wouldn't be scrolling any text at all? |
| 18:14.48 | philipp | themill, sry... i could not resist... |
| 18:14.56 | nsadmin | sis there anything in the boot messages that indicates the root fs? |
| 18:15.18 | linduxed | well i can only see a screenful |
| 18:15.34 | nsadmin | mustt... addddresssss... botttttttt... |
| 18:15.35 | linduxed | considering it's in kernel panic flashy-flash |
| 18:16.11 | linduxed | oh wtf is this shit |
| 18:16.21 | linduxed | scsi device sdb?? |
| 18:16.32 | linduxed | oh wait it might be a scsi |
| 18:16.35 | linduxed | sorry |
| 18:16.52 | nsadmin | the ides and satas etc are using scsi subsystem |
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| 18:17.01 | linduxed | oh ic |
| 18:17.10 | Eninem | where you been the past 10 years linduxed |
| 18:17.12 | nsadmin | hmm.. wait, in your system... hmm |
| 18:17.17 | linduxed | Eninem: :-P |
| 18:17.19 | Eninem | ;) |
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| 18:17.42 | linduxed | nsadmin: the only sensible data you'll get out of this kernel panic screen is what i posted up there |
| 18:18.01 | nsadmin | so where we are now, trying boots, kernel boots but can't mount / |
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| 18:18.18 | johnfg1 | hey guys. |
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| 18:19.22 | linduxed | alright, i'm tired of staring at this kernel panic screen |
| 18:19.34 | linduxed | i'm changing the UUIDs to actual dev names |
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| 18:20.02 | johnfg1 | For some reason my seagate freeagent is spinning down and not starting back up, even when I use sdparm on /dev/sdb. Any other ideas? I'm not at that site, btw. |
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| 18:20.24 | johnfg1 | In fact sdparm says sdb isn't present. |
| 18:20.39 | bolt | such tools rarely work on usb drives |
| 18:20.48 | bolt | at least they didn't use to |
| 18:20.50 | johnfg1 | Anything I can do remotely? As I can still ssh to the site. |
| 18:21.21 | nsadmin | linduxed, can you repost that? |
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| 18:22.02 | linduxed | nsadmin: what? |
| 18:22.12 | linduxed | the error? |
| 18:22.14 | nsadmin | linduxed, the kernel panic |
| 18:22.15 | nsadmin | yeah |
| 18:22.23 | linduxed | Creating root device ; Mounting root filesystem ; mount: error 6 mounting ext3 ; mount: error 2 mounting none ; Switching to new root ; switchroot: mount failed 22 ; umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 ; Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 18:22.46 | nsadmin | error 6, what's that... |
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| 18:23.09 | nsadmin | then error 2 |
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| 18:23.33 | nsadmin | there's soooo not enuf info in those err msgs |
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| 18:23.41 | nsadmin | not your fault |
| 18:24.13 | nsadmin | wait there's a little more than I thought |
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| 18:25.39 | linduxed | well at any rate i went into sysresc and changed UUID to /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda1 |
| 18:25.45 | linduxed | lets see if that works |
| 18:26.12 | linduxed | nope |
| 18:26.15 | linduxed | same old shit |
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| 18:27.02 | nsadmin | ok, which is ide and which is scsi? |
| 18:27.13 | nsadmin | the new drive is pata? sata? |
| 18:27.33 | linduxed | new drive i'm quite certain is sata |
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| 18:27.49 | linduxed | the old drive is the only one i can see output for in the kernel panic screen, and it says SCSI |
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| 18:31.57 | nsadmin | it -could- be that the live cd kernel is newer than the boot kernel |
| 18:32.13 | linduxed | oh that would be very accurate at least |
| 18:32.18 | linduxed | WAY newer |
| 18:32.30 | linduxed | don't see how that should affect anything though |
| 18:32.34 | nsadmin | can you try booting but get into the grub shell? |
| 18:32.42 | linduxed | yeah |
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| 18:33.35 | nsadmin | that's why labels were working for you before and uuids could work across this boundary |
| 18:33.54 | linduxed | in grub now |
| 18:34.10 | nsadmin | ok, root ( <tab> |
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| 18:34.34 | linduxed | modifying the top entry? |
| 18:34.36 | nsadmin | does it reply hd0, |
| 18:34.48 | nsadmin | no, you're in the shell right? |
| 18:35.02 | nsadmin | got a grub> prompt and everyuthing? |
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| 18:35.07 | linduxed | well no |
| 18:35.14 | linduxed | i've got the list of grub enties |
| 18:35.20 | linduxed | three different kernels |
| 18:35.23 | nsadmin | I gotta take a shower soon |
| 18:35.26 | linduxed | sure |
| 18:35.30 | nsadmin | try c for commandline |
| 18:35.37 | linduxed | ok |
| 18:35.40 | linduxed | done |
| 18:36.00 | linduxed | possible disks are hd0 hd1 |
| 18:36.26 | nsadmin | oh really,,, there's a new device.map? |
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| 18:36.40 | linduxed | not that i know of |
| 18:36.44 | nsadmin | ok, root (hd0,0) |
| 18:36.53 | nsadmin | you've got a grub1 |
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| 18:37.09 | linduxed | ok 0,0 chosen |
| 18:37.14 | linduxed | should i just boot or what? |
| 18:37.17 | nsadmin | and then try cat /grub/device.map |
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| 18:37.47 | linduxed | same output as before |
| 18:37.56 | linduxed | fd0 and hd0 |
| 18:38.01 | linduxed | hd0 being /dev/sda |
| 18:38.19 | linduxed | oh wait... |
| 18:38.22 | nsadmin | ok type root (hd1,0) |
| 18:38.24 | linduxed | this could be something |
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| 18:38.30 | linduxed | ok gimme a sec |
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| 18:38.56 | linduxed | hd1,0 will point to /boot |
| 18:38.57 | nsadmin | (and do the same thing, getting myself ready, brb) |
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| 18:39.01 | linduxed | should i do that? |
| 18:39.07 | nsadmin | yes, |
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| 18:39.22 | nsadmin | what/s the device.map there? |
| 18:39.28 | linduxed | exactly the same |
| 18:39.33 | linduxed | fd0 and hd0 |
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| 18:39.39 | linduxed | hd0 is /dev/sda |
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| 18:44.38 | sidh | does someone could help me to understand this message : |
| 18:44.43 | sidh | perl-base: Conflicts: update-inetd (< 4.41) but 4.38+nmu1+squeeze1 is to be installed. |
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| 18:45.09 | sidh | because recommended action does nothing |
| 18:45.28 | sidh | and I'm not sure to understand this message |
| 18:45.41 | themill | sidh: don't mix squeeze and wheezy/sid |
| 18:46.38 | sidh | themill: well i did it because mysql-workbench is not available in stable/backports |
| 18:46.49 | sidh | and I really need it |
| 18:47.08 | sidh | (and I coudn't manage to compile it from sources) |
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| 18:47.26 | nmvictor | Anyone skilled enough to help me with setting up PXE network booting, I the client stops with : No boot filename received. I dont know whats missing. |
| 18:47.45 | themill | ,checkbackport mysql-workbench |
| 18:47.46 | judd | Backporting package mysql-workbench in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, squeeze-backports. |
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| 18:47.59 | themill | sidh: you should be able to backport the debian package for that; /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 18:48.08 | linduxed | nsadmin: fixed it |
| 18:48.15 | linduxed | nsadmin: or well, i managed to boot something |
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| 18:48.25 | sidh | judd: I'm running amd64 |
| 18:48.33 | nsadmin | great... let's find out what you booted |
| 18:48.35 | thomaschaaf | I am trying to get the nvidia driver to work with 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 googling has brought me no luck. Anyone have an idea? |
| 18:48.42 | nsadmin | what was the issue? |
| 18:48.43 | themill | sidh: the build-deps are the same |
| 18:48.45 | linduxed | nsadmin: i changed the top grub entry, so that instead of a UUID it said /dev/sda2 for root |
| 18:48.56 | Guest85977 | hello everybody |
| 18:49.02 | linduxed | nsadmin: that got me all the way into a root shell |
| 18:49.14 | thomaschaaf | I really don't know how to follow: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#non-free_drivers because there simply is no 3 kernel in aptitude |
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| 18:49.20 | nsadmin | ok, great... it asked for maint password? |
| 18:49.25 | linduxed | lol |
| 18:49.35 | linduxed | can't find /proc |
| 18:49.38 | linduxed | no /dev/pts |
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| 18:49.43 | linduxed | i commented them out :-D |
| 18:49.45 | linduxed | hahaha |
| 18:49.48 | linduxed | rebooting |
| 18:49.49 | nsadmin | ok, so those things aren't mounted |
| 18:49.52 | nsadmin | wait |
| 18:50.18 | nsadmin | I gotta take a shower nowish, and I want to get some info from your system |
| 18:50.19 | sidh | themill: I already installed mysqlworkbench with pinning way |
| 18:50.27 | themill | sidh: :( |
| 18:50.27 | linduxed | sure |
| 18:50.29 | sidh | is there a way to roll back ? |
| 18:50.40 | linduxed | i wanted to reboot because the keyboard didn't work |
| 18:50.42 | nsadmin | first off, does it have net? |
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| 18:50.44 | linduxed | but now it does |
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| 18:50.54 | nsadmin | cool |
| 18:50.54 | themill | sidh: can you remove sid from your sources.list, run apt-get update and then "/msg dpkg not available" and pastebin the output |
| 18:50.57 | linduxed | i could try pinging goodle |
| 18:51.00 | linduxed | *google |
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| 18:51.09 | linduxed | nope |
| 18:51.10 | nsadmin | boodle? |
| 18:51.16 | nsadmin | unknown host? |
| 18:51.37 | linduxed | yeah |
| 18:51.38 | nsadmin | ok, probably need those mounts |
| 18:51.41 | sidh | themill: I remove only sid, or every repo that is not stable/backports ? |
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| 18:51.48 | nsadmin | do mount |
| 18:51.48 | linduxed | yeah, rebooting now |
| 18:51.50 | nsadmin | no params |
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| 18:52.00 | linduxed | too late hahah |
| 18:52.08 | nsadmin | afgh |
| 18:52.13 | linduxed | hehe |
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| 18:52.16 | linduxed | sorry |
| 18:52.17 | linduxed | brainfart |
| 18:52.23 | linduxed | forgot that i could just do mount |
| 18:52.35 | nsadmin | so what I want to know is what's / and /boot accdg to mount |
| 18:52.39 | linduxed | well at least i adjusted the fstab |
| 18:52.52 | nsadmin | you probably need those mounts for that |
| 18:53.13 | nsadmin | ok, I'm shorin |
| 18:53.16 | themill | sidh: umm... what others do you have |
| 18:53.19 | nsadmin | bbsoonish |
| 18:53.22 | linduxed | ok |
| 18:53.25 | themill | !show sources.list sidh |
| 18:53.25 | dpkg | sidh: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
| 18:55.12 | Guest85977 | so, i need to remove emoathy, evolution, ekiga and some other apps, BUT i don+t want to remove network tools, nm-applet, users and groups app (what is package name for users and groups app?), shortly, everything in preferences and administartion menu. can u help me do my first modular non-metapackage install? |
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| 18:55.24 | sidh | the mill I foolwed exactly this set up : http://www.jeyg.info/les-branches-debian-et-lapt-pinning/ |
| 18:55.42 | linduxed | nsadmin: well i got the shell now, but it complains a lot about not being able to touch and access /var |
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| 18:56.29 | sidh | the only difference is that I split each target in its own .list file, instead of a generic sources.list file |
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| 18:58.23 | themill | sidh: eeek... I wish we could nuke sites like that off the web |
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| 18:59.51 | sidh | themill: http://pastebin.com/8uNBAWLr |
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| 19:01.00 | themill | sidh: yeah, move everything other than squeeze.list and backports.list out of the way, apt-get update and then /msg dpkg not available |
| 19:01.09 | Guest85977 | so, i need to remove emoathy, evolution, ekiga and some other apps, BUT i don+t want to remove network tools, nm-applet, users and groups app (what is package name for users and groups app?), shortly, everything in preferences and administartion menu. can u help me do my first modular non-metapackage install? |
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| 19:01.18 | sidh | themill: ok |
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| 19:02.06 | Guest85977 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.13 | Guest85977 | help anybody |
| 19:02.31 | kevlarman | Guest85977: mark the things you want to keep as explicitly installed |
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| 19:03.13 | Guest85977 | kevlarman: in synaptic? or in aptitude? |
| 19:03.15 | kevlarman | (alternatively, just remove it and then reinstall the things you want to keep, apt-get will grab them from the package cache so there's no download) |
| 19:03.21 | kevlarman | Guest85977: either |
| 19:03.33 | Guest85977 | oh, nice |
| 19:03.38 | Guest85977 | thankyou |
| 19:03.41 | Guest85977 | :) |
| 19:03.57 | thomaschaaf | How do I install the kernel-sources? I am trying to run the nvidia-installer and get that error message, that the kernel soruces can't be foundhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/5910/Jing/2012-03-20_2003.png |
| 19:04.33 | kevlarman | thomaschaaf: 1) you should probably just use the package in non-free |
| 19:04.43 | kevlarman | 2) you want the kernel-headers package |
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| 19:04.55 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: I have kernel 3.2 |
| 19:05.00 | thomaschaaf | (for wifi) |
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| 19:05.14 | GNU\colossus | I'm looking to get avidemux on my squeeze system, but would like to avoid debian-multimedia. any tips on how to accomplish that? :) |
| 19:05.33 | kevlarman | ,versions nvidia-dkms |
| 19:05.34 | judd | No package named 'nvidia-dkms' was found in i386. |
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| 19:05.56 | lost_eden | getting things like "int16_t undeclared" when running make on a new debian vm, I assume I've missed installing an important package? |
| 19:06.04 | sidh | themill: http://pastebin.com/p30Lkk0R |
| 19:06.09 | lost_eden | I have build essentials, gcc, gcc-avr (which I'm using) |
| 19:06.20 | kevlarman | thomaschaaf: nvidia-kernel-dkms |
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| 19:06.31 | kevlarman | thomaschaaf: that one doesn't depend on a particular kernel |
| 19:06.43 | kevlarman | (and will automatically rebuild when you upgrade) |
| 19:06.49 | themill | sidh: at this stage it looks like a substantial part of your machine is already wheezy/sid. /msg dpkg unmixing |
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| 19:10.16 | sidh | themill: I won't have time to reinstall before this week end (i take a train tomorrow) |
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| 19:10.44 | sidh | so for now, I should upgrade to sid entirely, or staying like that ? |
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| 19:16.05 | greycat | We have a Lenny box, and we have a PHP developer, who is not me. 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny13 works but 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16 breaks. Specifically it breaks on a form with a lot of variables -- not all the variables are submitted. Our Googling points us to suhosin, and tells us to set variables. I'm TRYING that. Nothing is working. There are no errors logged ANYWHERE. It's just a silent failure. |
| 19:16.17 | greycat | Are there any PHPers here who can shed any light on this? |
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| 19:16.51 | greycat | Is there any magic invocation I need to use to make it tell me what's wrong? |
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| 19:18.11 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: I am following this tutorial: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Install_the_NVIDIA_X_driver_and_user-space_libraries and can't seem to find out what to install. I installed nvidia-glx now. But now startx still can't find the module nvidia |
| 19:18.18 | foxtrot9 | greycat, you might get more help in a PHP channel, I'm sure they're on here on freenode |
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| 19:19.12 | greycat | I thought it would be best to try here first, because it breaks when I install one specific Lenny security patch, and works again when I revert to the old .deb files. |
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| 19:21.10 | tralala` | what's the debian way of adding custom ca certificates? |
| 19:21.21 | kevlarman | thomaschaaf: you'll need to build a new initrd after installing the nvidia stuff |
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| 19:21.53 | kevlarman | thomaschaaf: actually first make sure that nvidia.ko exists |
| 19:22.00 | nsadmin | linduxed, done w/ shor |
| 19:22.06 | ompaul | greycat: is it possible to run it with |tee ? |
| 19:22.08 | nsadmin | you here? |
| 19:22.09 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok good |
| 19:22.17 | linduxed | nsadmin: i got the /var online |
| 19:22.25 | ompaul | greycat: I know nothing of php (as far as I know I'm lucky ;-)) |
| 19:22.30 | linduxed | i'm still booting from the the old /boot |
| 19:22.47 | linduxed | but now it boots the new root, and the /boot and /var ar mounted correctly |
| 19:22.53 | nsadmin | that's good, I think that should be the last thing to think about |
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| 19:23.00 | streuner_ | greycat, whats the command to list a cmd in dpkg? |
| 19:23.18 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: no I don't think so |
| 19:23.20 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: where would that be located? |
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| 19:23.24 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: http://pastie.org/3636875 |
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| 19:23.26 | thomaschaaf | sorry |
| 19:23.30 | linduxed | the only things that i miss in the new install is a swap (although it somehow found one at boot...) and /export |
| 19:23.33 | nsadmin | linduxed, you should be in the single-user as root... try, touch /hi |
| 19:23.33 | greycat | ompaul: It's a web server. |
| 19:23.58 | ompaul | greycat: scratch that idea |
| 19:24.03 | kevlarman | thomaschaaf: did you install nvidia-kernel-dkms? |
| 19:24.07 | thomaschaaf | yep |
| 19:24.09 | streuner_ | greycat, literal, but for a CMD |
| 19:24.19 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok... i touched /hi |
| 19:24.32 | nsadmin | so / is not ro, good |
| 19:24.45 | kevlarman | thomaschaaf: and the headers for your current kernel? |
| 19:24.50 | nsadmin | you have the start of your migrate to the other drive... |
| 19:25.05 | nsadmin | do you have dbs? |
| 19:25.20 | linduxed | i have no command called dbs |
| 19:25.29 | thomaschaaf | aptitude install linux-kernel-headers -t squeeze-backports does not install anything |
| 19:25.37 | streuner_ | wtf, is dbs? |
| 19:25.46 | greycat | Damn it! A comment on http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-lenny-ispconfig2-p5 from someone with a similar issue says he is getting ACTUAL LOGGED ERRORS from suhosin in his log file. I'm not getting errors. Nothing! |
| 19:25.49 | nsadmin | well, no postgres? no mysql? no.... orackle??! |
| 19:26.02 | linduxed | oh |
| 19:26.06 | linduxed | i don't know |
| 19:26.12 | linduxed | i've got mysql |
| 19:26.19 | linduxed | but i have no idea what i should use that for |
| 19:26.27 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: but I am pretty sure both things are installed |
| 19:26.31 | linduxed | i seem to have sqlite3 too |
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| 19:26.42 | nsadmin | ok, maybe you don't have any databases? |
| 19:26.51 | linduxed | i'm confused |
| 19:26.52 | nsadmin | android uses sqlite |
| 19:26.57 | linduxed | why are we talking about databases? |
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| 19:27.02 | Gomex | Hi |
| 19:27.11 | nsadmin | just checking to see what you got |
| 19:27.13 | Gomex | The name of kernel package is linux-base? |
| 19:27.22 | nsadmin | anyway, |
| 19:27.33 | DeM0nFiRe | Does debian do anything different with configuring PHP? Trying to turn off fastcgi logging, and I've got fastcgi.logging=0 in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and that doesn't turn it off |
| 19:27.40 | streuner_ | Gomex: what are you talking about? |
| 19:27.43 | nsadmin | did you move /var to the new drive? |
| 19:27.48 | linduxed | yeah |
| 19:27.56 | linduxed | mounted on /dev/sda3 |
| 19:28.06 | nsadmin | ok, good, and it's mounted and in fstab? |
| 19:28.11 | linduxed | yeah |
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| 19:28.12 | Gomex | streuner_, I wanna know what is the name of kernel package |
| 19:28.15 | linduxed | boots it good |
| 19:28.23 | nsadmin | and, do you have a big partition for /exports? |
| 19:28.23 | streuner_ | Gomex: linux-image* |
| 19:28.32 | linduxed | well no not yet |
| 19:28.40 | linduxed | and i have no swap partition yet either |
| 19:28.46 | linduxed | ill do those two |
| 19:28.57 | linduxed | oh ffs |
| 19:28.57 | nsadmin | maybe swap is next... how much ram? |
| 19:29.06 | streuner_ | Gomex: in Debian :-P |
| 19:29.10 | linduxed | don't have cfdisk on this old POS installation |
| 19:29.14 | linduxed | and can't install either |
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| 19:29.38 | nsadmin | hmm, you have fdisk tho |
| 19:30.06 | linduxed | yeah, but i've forgotten how to use that |
| 19:30.09 | linduxed | :-/ |
| 19:30.13 | linduxed | as for the memory |
| 19:30.19 | linduxed | i've got 1G ram |
| 19:30.46 | Gomex | straterra, thanks |
| 19:31.21 | Gomex | streuner_, I have a network card with driver broken in standart kernel of Debian 6 |
| 19:31.23 | nsadmin | ok, we're now gonna make 2 partitions |
| 19:31.34 | Gomex | broken driver* |
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| 19:31.42 | nsadmin | a 2g for swap and a 500g for /exports |
| 19:31.54 | nsadmin | first, fdisk /dev/sda |
| 19:31.58 | ompaul | greycat: http://forums.cpanel.net/f5/how-do-i-modify-suhosin-settings-221842.html not saying this is right for you, but it might be a track to have a look at |
| 19:32.03 | linduxed | i think that 500g is gonna have to be "the rest" instead |
| 19:32.20 | nsadmin | alright |
| 19:32.34 | linduxed | ok |
| 19:32.39 | nsadmin | I hope your users are helping you support that |
| 19:32.43 | nsadmin | :) |
| 19:32.58 | linduxed | haha |
| 19:33.00 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: http://pastie.org/3636937 this si all I have should there be an nvidia.ko in there? |
| 19:33.03 | linduxed | ok, i pressed m |
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| 19:33.07 | linduxed | hmmm |
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| 19:33.16 | linduxed | n seems to be the next thing |
| 19:33.26 | nsadmin | you want a logical |
| 19:33.30 | kevlarman | thomaschaaf: yes |
| 19:33.33 | nsadmin | n is "new partition" |
| 19:33.35 | linduxed | extended in this case |
| 19:33.39 | ompaul | Gomex: you have a bug that confirms that, or is it just that it didn't work on you starting up a 6.0 with that card, or something else |
| 19:33.49 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: is there a way to debug why it's not there? Who would have built it? |
| 19:33.50 | nsadmin | just a sec, |
| 19:34.05 | nsadmin | do you see any partitions >=5? |
| 19:34.18 | kevlarman | thomaschaaf: nvidia-kernel-dkms builds it when you install it or when you boot a kernel that doesn't have it yet |
| 19:34.30 | linduxed | nsadmin: what? |
| 19:34.37 | linduxed | nsadmin: if i print the partition table that is? |
| 19:34.38 | nsadmin | like, sda5 |
| 19:34.38 | thomaschaaf | I guess I could try rebooting? |
| 19:34.45 | nsadmin | yes with p |
| 19:34.50 | linduxed | nsadmin: no i've only got sda1, 2, 3 |
| 19:34.51 | greycat | ompaul: we've been googling this for days now. That URL you gave has a comment about suhosin errors being written to a log file. I would LOVE it if I could get some suhosin errors written to a log file, instead of this silent failure. |
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| 19:35.16 | nsadmin | you're right then, you want an extended |
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| 19:35.32 | nsadmin | then you can make 5 for swap and 6 for /exports |
| 19:35.45 | linduxed | why not 4 and 5? |
| 19:35.51 | linduxed | i don't need that gap that i had before |
| 19:35.54 | ompaul | greycat: ah ok, I'm getting a better picture, the only thing I can think of is to run the whole thing in strace (hoping you have a dev box etc) |
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| 19:36.24 | greycat | ompaul: Also of note here is that the working version (lenny13) ALSO has the suhosin patch applied. Both lenny13 and lenny16 say "with suhosin-patch" in the log file when they start up. One works, one doesn't. |
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| 19:36.34 | nsadmin | because 1,2,3 are taken, only primary left is 4, and that needs to be the extended dos partition, which will contain logicals which are numbered 5,6,7,8,9 |
| 19:36.36 | themill | greycat: you could work out which security update between 13 and 16 broke it. |
| 19:36.36 | nsadmin | etc |
| 19:36.44 | linduxed | ooooh |
| 19:36.53 | themill | greycat: that would at least narrow the field a little |
| 19:37.25 | oscurochu | I just copied my debian install to a new hard drive. when i run "update grub," the "new" installation does not show up, but grub finds gentoo, arch, and windows partitions. |
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| 19:37.35 | greycat | That would take some doing, as the only way I know whether it's working or not is to ask my PHP developer to launch her app and fill in a thousand fields. |
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| 19:37.39 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok i'm confused by this +sizeM |
| 19:37.41 | linduxed | thing |
| 19:37.51 | nsadmin | at this moment your only choice is to use 4 as a reg partition (then you have no more) or extended |
| 19:37.52 | linduxed | that's what i need, but i don't know what i should type |
| 19:37.55 | themill | greycat: oh.. yay for test suites? |
| 19:38.00 | nsadmin | you want it to cover the rest of the drive |
| 19:38.07 | oscurochu | i am running update-grub from a chroot environment. i mounted /sys /pts /proc /dev /boot and / to /mnt/target. |
| 19:38.09 | linduxed | well no i'm doing the swap now |
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| 19:38.14 | linduxed | so i only want 2g |
| 19:38.23 | nsadmin | hold up there :) |
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| 19:38.30 | nsadmin | you need that extended first :) |
| 19:38.36 | linduxed | well yeah |
| 19:38.41 | linduxed | i pressed e |
| 19:38.56 | themill | greycat: I presume you don't want to be told that lenny's php isn't getting security support any more and that there is probably a nice pile of CVEs against it already, do you? |
| 19:38.58 | nsadmin | ok, and? :) |
| 19:39.03 | linduxed | and then it says "selected partition 4" and asks for how many cylinders |
| 19:39.20 | linduxed | Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK |
| 19:39.23 | ac_slater | Can anyone tell me if GCC in debian is auotmatically doing anything? GCC44 in Archlinux and Debian is producing different output. |
| 19:39.24 | nsadmin | ok, you want that to cover all your space left |
| 19:39.29 | nsadmin | try hitting enter |
| 19:39.30 | linduxed | ooooh |
| 19:39.34 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: na that did nothing :( is there a way to reinstall it and then check a log to see what went wrong? |
| 19:39.38 | linduxed | so this is just making the extended partition? |
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| 19:39.43 | greycat | themill: we have a shiny new amd64 squeeze server ready for her to move to at some point in the future, but the longer we spend banging our heads against brick walls, the longer it'll take before she has time to migrate the databases to the new server.... |
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| 19:39.49 | linduxed | not the actual swap thing? |
| 19:39.52 | nsadmin | an EXTENDED partition is a container for LOGICALs |
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| 19:40.11 | linduxed | yeah i know that, but i thought i would be making the swap inside an extended |
| 19:40.12 | themill | greycat: sounds like "downgrade and migrate ASAP" is a reasonable strategy then |
| 19:40.23 | linduxed | that it would smash together two step into one |
| 19:40.26 | linduxed | oh well |
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| 19:40.44 | linduxed | ok now then |
| 19:40.47 | linduxed | new partition |
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| 19:41.01 | sidh | themill: well before reinstalling, I think I will try sid , I'm not very far now, and like this I could "see" |
| 19:41.14 | nsadmin | ok if the e partition is done |
| 19:41.32 | nsadmin | then the next thing you want is the swap (I would think) |
| 19:41.34 | greycat | Hmm, ompaul's URL also has a comment: "<? phpinfo(); ?>". We've already tried that as well, and the ONLY SUHOSIN VARIABLES IT SHOWS are suhosin.log.*. It doesn't show anything like suhosin.post.max_vars which is what we've been trying to change. |
| 19:41.35 | themill | sidh: wheezy might be a more sane choice... that way you're at least insulated from the worst of the problems |
| 19:41.59 | linduxed | oh ffs |
| 19:42.01 | nsadmin | make it for 2g (I'm doing the ancient "double ram size" formula) |
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| 19:42.29 | nsadmin | we gotta be in sync here, I can't see your screen :) |
| 19:42.29 | linduxed | sorry, something happened |
| 19:42.35 | linduxed | just a sec |
| 19:42.35 | nsadmin | uhoh... |
| 19:42.42 | ChrisH | Anyone having experience with WebDAV served on Debian? I am no asking for config hints but "real life" experience.. Users with Win* and Linux accessing from remote. |
| 19:43.21 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: doing just that works |
| 19:43.24 | thomaschaaf | kevlarman: doing just that worked |
| 19:43.34 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok done |
| 19:43.36 | linduxed | fixed it |
| 19:43.45 | nsadmin | ok, what do you have right now? |
| 19:43.47 | linduxed | got a sda5, but it's listed as linux |
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| 19:43.50 | linduxed | not as swap |
| 19:44.08 | nsadmin | t, 5, 82 |
| 19:44.11 | linduxed | gave the rest to sda6 |
| 19:44.12 | nsadmin | p |
| 19:44.26 | linduxed | ok all done now |
| 19:44.30 | nsadmin | w |
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| 19:44.40 | nsadmin | then you have to reboot |
| 19:44.54 | linduxed | doing reboot |
| 19:45.13 | nsadmin | you're almost done |
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| 19:45.50 | nsadmin | you have /boot on the other drive, you'll change that last |
| 19:46.00 | linduxed | yeah, was just gonna mention |
| 19:46.09 | nsadmin | you'll format the swap, add to fstab, |
| 19:46.25 | linduxed | in shell now |
| 19:46.30 | nsadmin | format the /exports, uncomment in fstab |
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| 19:46.44 | linduxed | mkfs.ext3 that is? |
| 19:46.44 | nsadmin | does it ask for "maintainance passwprd"? |
| 19:46.56 | nsadmin | yeah, or mkfs -t ext3 |
| 19:47.07 | Gomex | ompaul, yes, here is the bug > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=603673 |
| 19:47.31 | linduxed | oh wow, this might take a while |
| 19:47.46 | nsadmin | for now, leave /boot on the old drive |
| 19:47.55 | nsadmin | yeah, you got a big partition to format |
| 19:47.58 | linduxed | well it's mkfs'in |
| 19:47.58 | greycat | Hmm. I was able to set suhosin.log.syslog.priority in the php.ini file and observe its effect in phpinfo() output, so at least I know I'm editing the right file.... |
| 19:48.03 | ompaul | greycat: one person suggested that both of these needed to be set -- it's a straw suhosin.post.max_vars = 5000 suhosin.request.max_vars = 5000 |
| 19:48.44 | linduxed | hmmm, starting to get hungry... |
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| 19:49.00 | linduxed | what is it now... 8 hours since lunch |
| 19:49.06 | greycat | ompaul: We've been there and done all that, and there's nothing showing up in the error.log file, and there's nothing showing up in syslog, and there's nothing showing up in phpinfo() to even indicate that it's reading the changes from the php.ini file |
| 19:49.26 | nsadmin | where u at? europe? |
| 19:49.34 | linduxed | sweden |
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| 19:50.06 | linduxed | ok done |
| 19:50.12 | nsadmin | cool. |
| 19:50.27 | nsadmin | exists /exports? |
| 19:50.36 | linduxed | ?? |
| 19:50.42 | linduxed | what do you mean? |
| 19:50.43 | nsadmin | should be since we copied / |
| 19:50.45 | linduxed | the folder in root? |
| 19:50.49 | nsadmin | yes |
| 19:50.57 | linduxed | yeah it's there |
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| 19:51.23 | nsadmin | cool, you should be able to mount /exports |
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| 19:51.30 | DeM0nFiRe | Does debian do anything different with configuring PHP? Trying to turn off fastcgi logging, and I've got fastcgi.logging=0 in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini but I am still getting 500 errors for php errors |
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| 19:52.19 | ompaul | DeM0nFiRe: as long as you restart the apache it should behave afik |
| 19:52.32 | squibby | hey guys why do traceroutes seem to pause a several points when I run them from a debian based system? |
| 19:52.33 | DeM0nFiRe | Yeah, it's not :/ |
| 19:52.39 | nsadmin | not getting 420 ERIPPED errors? |
| 19:52.55 | Gomex | ompaul, to fix that, is just download and install that, package, right? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/linux-image-2.6-amd64/download |
| 19:52.59 | DeM0nFiRe | Me? No, it's 500 errors |
| 19:53.15 | DeM0nFiRe | And it's logging php errors in /var/log/apache2/error.log |
| 19:53.31 | squibby | the ping responses from the individual hops aren't affected, but it always pauses after a few hops, waits a few seconds, and then displays a few more hops. why is this? this only happens on debian systems |
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| 19:54.08 | ChrisH | squibby: is it different from other systems in the same network with the same resolvers active? |
| 19:54.14 | squibby | ChrisH: yes |
| 19:54.15 | ompaul | Gomex: how were you installing |
| 19:54.22 | nsadmin | linduxed, ok now edit /boot/grub/grub.conf |
| 19:54.29 | nsadmin | take out the single |
| 19:54.35 | ChrisH | squibby: what are the other systems running? |
| 19:54.48 | squibby | ChrisH: when I use the -n option to turn the name lookups off this problem disappears. but it doesn't happen with any other systems that I work with, freebsd, os x, RHEL, etc |
| 19:54.53 | nsadmin | then restore /exports |
| 19:55.02 | squibby | ChrisH: are you asking what resolver software I'm running? |
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| 19:55.39 | nsadmin | that will take a LONG time, have lunch, sleep till morning, then |
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| 19:55.44 | nsadmin | hit ctrl d |
| 19:55.52 | linduxed | nsadmin: well you know what |
| 19:55.54 | nsadmin | it will boot past maint mode |
| 19:55.57 | squibby | ChrisH: even if I run a second traceroute to the same destination directly after it completes, it pauses. which if resolvers were involved wouldn't it just use the information it should have cached from the previous lookup? |
| 19:56.09 | nsadmin | that doesn't sound good... |
| 19:56.12 | greycat | OK, I think my PHP developer gave up and went home. I'm just going to downgrade back to lenny13 and leave it. |
| 19:56.25 | ChrisH | squibby: I asked on FreeBSD, OS X, RHEL ... As you mention its faster with -n its a DNS resolving problem. |
| 19:56.26 | linduxed | the thing is that the restoring mechanism is a windows machine that logs in as root and backups/restores over the network |
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| 19:56.43 | squibby | ChrisH: the problem always disappears if I use the -n option. it does appear to be name lookup related, but I want to know why things behave this way on debian based systems. it doesn't seem to matter what location I'm at or what resolvers I'm using. this happens on debian, ubuntu, mint, whatever |
| 19:56.52 | DeM0nFiRe | This is pissing me off :/ I've done this before I don't know why it's not cooperating this time |
| 19:56.55 | linduxed | but if multi-user mode works... it shouldn't be a problem |
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| 19:57.09 | linduxed | it's jut that i haven't ever done this big of a restore ä-P |
| 19:57.12 | nsadmin | ok, then... type mount |
| 19:57.17 | linduxed | just a sec |
| 19:57.22 | linduxed | gotta fix that boot |
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| 19:57.29 | nsadmin | examine the output |
| 19:57.44 | nsadmin | well that's going to take a little time which I can't spend now |
| 19:57.55 | linduxed | yeah sure |
| 19:58.02 | linduxed | mount says... |
| 19:58.05 | nsadmin | make sure you have a tarball of that /boot |
| 19:58.05 | linduxed | sda2 |
| 19:58.08 | linduxed | sda1 |
| 19:58.10 | linduxed | sda3 |
| 19:58.12 | squibby | ChrisH: at work we have BIND 9 for caching, at other places I will be pointing at a dns proxy resolver on a router. at my home I have my resolvers set to google's dns. it doesn't matter. it's always slow, on any debian based distro I use at any location |
| 19:58.13 | linduxed | sda6 |
| 19:58.15 | linduxed | looks good |
| 19:58.24 | linduxed | the only thing though |
| 19:58.29 | nsadmin | ok, if not restore yet, |
| 19:58.38 | nsadmin | hit ctrl-d now |
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| 19:58.51 | linduxed | ok ... |
| 19:58.55 | linduxed | entering runlevel 3 |
| 19:59.01 | nsadmin | thereyago |
| 19:59.05 | ChrisH | squibby: You need to pick on of the IPs on which it hangs and do nslookup on the different OS. Are all slow with the same resolver IP used? Do you have an IP at hand? |
| 19:59.07 | linduxed | oooh |
| 19:59.09 | nsadmin | if that looks good |
| 19:59.15 | squibby | ChrisH: in fact I've always had to apt-get install traceroute even to begin using it. this leads me to believe that debian has some other traceroute tool that I should be using instead. |
| 19:59.19 | linduxed | so that takes me to multi-user? |
| 19:59.37 | linduxed | didn't know that |
| 19:59.39 | squibby | ChrisH: I'm just tracerouting to www.google.com. it always takes the same path from the location I'm at now |
| 19:59.39 | linduxed | now |
| 19:59.40 | superman_dim | any girl eant to see a big thick dick? |
| 19:59.43 | linduxed | important question |
| 19:59.48 | nsadmin | yep, and getting rid of "single" from /boot/grub/grub.conf makes it not boot in maintmode |
| 19:59.54 | ChrisH | sKeiths: none tool that i am aware of. |
| 19:59.56 | linduxed | nsadmin: it's still booting off of the old drive |
| 19:59.59 | linduxed | nsadmin: not the new one |
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| 20:00.13 | squibby | ChrisH: the traceroute numbers on the individual lines themselves are normal, it's just the output always hangs at intervals during the trace. it's very annoying |
| 20:00.20 | nsadmin | it's working now, and you have a backup |
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| 20:00.35 | linduxed | nsadmin: yeah, for /export |
| 20:00.49 | linduxed | nsadmin: but i'm saying that /boot is right now on the old drive |
| 20:00.54 | linduxed | the one that is failing |
| 20:01.02 | linduxed | just as you told me to do |
| 20:01.10 | linduxed | i need to move that i guess to the new drive |
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| 20:01.13 | nsadmin | I think the fails are bad sectors in that partition |
| 20:01.19 | linduxed | i think so tooå |
| 20:01.25 | nsadmin | as I said, I don't have time for that... |
| 20:01.28 | linduxed | ok sure |
| 20:01.29 | nsadmin | and |
| 20:01.36 | linduxed | i'll ask someone else about that detail |
| 20:01.36 | squibby | ChrisH: I've done my due diligence, this is definitely a debian thing |
| 20:01.42 | nsadmin | the basic deal is you have to install grub in sda |
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| 20:01.50 | squibby | I just want to find somebody who might know what is going on with their specific implementation |
| 20:01.57 | squibby | or whatever implementation it is using |
| 20:02.02 | nsadmin | and readjust the /boot mount |
| 20:02.05 | linduxed | nsadmin: ok, i'll try to manage that myself then, i've done it some time before |
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| 20:02.14 | linduxed | nsadmin: thank you so much for all your help |
| 20:02.26 | linduxed | nsadmin: you really did something extraordinary for me |
| 20:02.26 | nsadmin | oh, so I got a q |
| 20:02.35 | squibby | ChrisH: I am using these installations on virtualbox if that sheds any light. |
| 20:02.36 | nsadmin | cat /etc/debian_version says? |
| 20:03.11 | nsadmin | linduxed, and made sure also that you learned at least one or two things each step |
| 20:03.24 | ChrisH | squibby: I just did a traceroute www.heise.de and traceroute -n www.heise.de and it stopps at different places |
| 20:03.41 | linduxed | nsadmin: oh i don't have that, this machine in particular is an ancient centos machine |
| 20:03.47 | linduxed | :-P |
| 20:03.54 | nsadmin | ahh |
| 20:04.02 | squibby | ChrisH: yeah. I just want to know why that happens on debian systems. it's always when I'm using debian. debian 6, ubuntu 11.10, mint 12
same thing always |
| 20:04.06 | nsadmin | yeah, I don't care that much |
| 20:04.10 | linduxed | CentOS 4.4 |
| 20:04.17 | linduxed | i don't even know how old that is |
| 20:04.32 | squibby | ChrisH: most people just say use -n, which isn't a good answer for me. I want to know why this process is always faster on other systems. |
| 20:04.38 | nsadmin | meetoo, never ran sentos before in my life... I can't even spell it |
| 20:05.41 | linduxed | well, all i know is that this piece of junk hasn't been updated (and actually can't be) and it's running 2.6.9 |
| 20:05.47 | linduxed | so it must be like... 2004 |
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| 20:06.01 | ChrisH | squibby: looks like you want to run strace -fTo $FILE traceroute IP and one with -n and compare files... I assume its simply the reverse lookup which is slow. |
| 20:06.11 | mjt | 2.6.9-34.ELsmp -- that's rhel 4.3, running here |
| 20:06.12 | nsadmin | so to finish it off, like I said you would install the grub onto mbr of what's now sda |
| 20:06.33 | linduxed | yes |
| 20:06.41 | nsadmin | adjust mounting so /boot from new drive is on |
| 20:06.48 | linduxed | yes |
| 20:06.55 | nsadmin | copy grub.conf to new (we made some changes) |
| 20:06.58 | nsadmin | try to boot |
| 20:07.14 | linduxed | yes |
| 20:07.33 | nsadmin | linduxed, and having said all that over the last 5 hours... |
| 20:07.42 | nsadmin | you really should try debian :P |
| 20:08.01 | linduxed | nsadmin: dude |
| 20:08.05 | pdtpatrick | what does start-stop-daemon keep putting the wrong pid in my pidfile? The pidfile is always 1 less than the actual pid? so instead of 14603 it would put 14602 |
| 20:08.14 | nsadmin | see if someone will give you a machine (at minimum your users owe it to ya) |
| 20:08.21 | linduxed | nsadmin: what the hell do you think that experimental install i was talking about that i nuked was? |
| 20:08.26 | linduxed | nsadmin: it was squeeze |
| 20:08.40 | linduxed | nsadmin: i'm running squeeze on the server i chatting through |
| 20:08.42 | squibby | ChrisH: I'll look into that. |
| 20:08.45 | nsadmin | how did you like it? |
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| 20:08.50 | linduxed | that experimental install was what i wanted to move to |
| 20:08.52 | linduxed | nsadmin: i love it |
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| 20:08.58 | linduxed | nsadmin: for servers it's the best |
| 20:09.15 | linduxed | i use arch for desktops and laptops, but for servers there's nothing but debian for me |
| 20:09.18 | linduxed | but the thing is |
| 20:09.55 | linduxed | that this piece of shit setup has some magical configuration that i've spent MONTHS trying to recreate in debian so that all the laptops here recognize the server through samba |
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| 20:10.01 | linduxed | and i just couldn't fucking do it |
| 20:10.04 | linduxed | it's that simple |
| 20:10.18 | linduxed | it felt like porting a stack of hay |
| 20:10.22 | nsadmin | is that the main issue for this box? |
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| 20:10.42 | kevlarman | wait, did the multiarch dpkg just hit sid? |
| 20:10.44 | linduxed | if one single blade of hay was wrongly placed, no laptop was able to connect to the server through samba |
| 20:10.45 | robin_sz | so .. where on earth can I find a *unstable* live CD image? |
| 20:10.50 | kevlarman | upgrade time \o/ |
| 20:10.50 | nsadmin | two ways to port haystack: |
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| 20:11.02 | robin_sz | live.debian seems to have oldstabel and stable ... |
| 20:11.05 | nsadmin | move one straw of hay, repeat until done |
| 20:11.23 | nsadmin | or make bales, move each baie until done |
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| 20:11.34 | robin_sz | or napalm the field? |
| 20:11.35 | squibby | linduxed: I thought arch was intended to be a barebones type of installation. that's the first time I've seen somebody say they prefer arch for desktops or laptops. |
| 20:11.44 | greycat | robin_sz: there are no such things. You just install stable or *sometimes* testing (if there is a testing installation image, e.g. a few months before an expected release), and then "update" to unstable. |
| 20:11.56 | nsadmin | robin_sz, that's not moving, that's changing form of energu :P |
| 20:12.17 | kevlarman | squibby: it takes a special kind of crazy to run arch on a server |
| 20:12.22 | linduxed | squibby: i really love it for the fact that i get to build it from the ground up, so i know each part of the system |
| 20:12.24 | nemysis | hello have changed /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade Squeeze to Wheezy but some packages are not updated and kept |
| 20:12.32 | robin_sz | greycat, thanks, that explains it. I dont fancy installign either, though I did fancy trying them live for an afternoon, but I guees i'll do the vmware thing |
| 20:12.35 | kevlarman | squibby: it's generally about a month ahead of sid in terms of packages |
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| 20:12.48 | linduxed | squibby: the tools and configuration files are also nice |
| 20:13.04 | linduxed | squibby: i really enjoy it, but as said, i would have it on a server |
| 20:13.20 | kevlarman | linduxed: wat? |
| 20:13.29 | nsadmin | could be the samba in squeeze and the samba in cdentos-4.4 are too different |
| 20:13.52 | squibby | so I installed Mint 12 into a vbox right
I run software update. just let it do all its automagic 300+ updating of packages. it apparently decides to change the default interface from LXDE to GNOME without informing me or asking permission. that's hilarious |
| 20:14.08 | nsadmin | for wat, you need another t then you have power!@ |
| 20:14.37 | squibby | unless this isn't gnome. but it sure looks like gnome |
| 20:14.37 | woshty | I want to run an X program as another user. How would i accomplish that? sudo -E -u user does not seem to be enough. I get "No protocol specified" and "Cannot open display" as errors |
| 20:15.03 | greycat | woshty: ssh -X user@localhost command |
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| 20:15.42 | nsadmin | woshty, try this way: fire up xterm, run ssh otheruser@localhost, try to run other x program there |
| 20:15.54 | linduxed | nsadmin: that wouldn't surprise me in the fucking slightest. moving stuff from something as old as centos 4.4 to squeeze feels like porting a fort-t engine into a spaceship |
| 20:16.04 | greycat | you need ssh -X |
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| 20:16.51 | nsadmin | you mean like a sputnik 1? |
| 20:17.03 | linduxed | more like starship enterprise |
| 20:17.15 | woshty | greycat,nsadmin: that is an idea, but is there no way around that? the evil program is skype, there might be some issues with video. |
| 20:17.44 | nsadmin | gotta go, luck |
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| 20:18.10 | linduxed | thx |
| 20:18.18 | greycat | well, the other approach involves either being root so that you can read the logged-in user's .Xauthority file, or using some sort of magical pipeline involving xauth |
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| 20:19.44 | micw | hi |
| 20:20.13 | streuner_ | micw: moin moin |
| 20:20.27 | woshty | greycat: i ll try the ssh thing before using magical pipeline stuff, thx |
| 20:20.40 | micw | i have changed the partitions of our server and now i wantet to reinstall grub. so i bootet into rescue and got a chroot shell on the system |
| 20:20.49 | micw | then i ran update-grub |
| 20:21.08 | micw | the problem is that now there's no linux entry in my grub.conf anymore |
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| 20:21.24 | micw | how can i make update-grub detect my system again? |
| 20:22.04 | greycat | woshty: if you want the pipeline, /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie export |
| 20:22.17 | movl | micw, grub2, right? |
| 20:22.23 | micw | yes |
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| 20:23.07 | movl | ok, and what partition changes did you make? |
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| 20:23.39 | nemysis | RTFM to me apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 20:24.29 | micw | the root is on lvm over md, boot on an md. i changed the whole underlying partition layout because i had some alignment errors. i did this online with recreating the partitions and moving the lvm volumes |
| 20:24.30 | Quibus | hi all |
| 20:24.37 | Quibus | I encountered something weird |
| 20:24.58 | micw | so now i have boot on /dev/md0 and root on /dev/LvmData1/HostRoot |
| 20:25.06 | Quibus | I tried to file a bug against wine-unstable, but reportbug complains that there's a newer version: unstable: 1.1.36-1 |
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| 20:25.34 | Quibus | however, apt-cache policy wine-unstable lists: 1.1.34-1 as version in unstable |
| 20:25.41 | Quibus | What's going wrong there? |
| 20:26.13 | Quibus | ah, it's the arch |
| 20:26.17 | Quibus | so, never mind |
| 20:26.19 | valdyn | Quibus: that package is pretty much unmaintained, not much point in reporting a bug anyway |
| 20:27.25 | valdyn | micw: is the original place where /boot was still intact? |
| 20:28.13 | micw | no |
| 20:28.28 | micw | it's a new md0 on a different physical location |
| 20:28.40 | valdyn | micw: how do you know its not intact? |
| 20:29.11 | Quibus | valdyn: I wanted to strengthen the plead of the submitter of bug 649238 |
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| 20:29.20 | kitai | sounds like devices.map is wrong now |
| 20:29.28 | valdyn | kitai: no, not yet |
| 20:29.47 | valdyn | micw: the master boot record was never updated to refer to the *new* md0 |
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| 20:30.13 | valdyn | micw: so im wondering if the old md0 might not be intact still |
| 20:31.08 | valdyn | micw: md0 is only a name that your linux uses to refer to that structure. Grub cannot do that |
| 20:31.22 | micw | i fixed the device map |
| 20:31.50 | micw | ah, there are things missing in /boot |
| 20:31.59 | micw | especially a kernel ^^ |
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| 20:32.22 | micw | how can i re-install a package without uninstalling it before (uninstalling would remove lots of dependencies) |
| 20:32.59 | dondelelcaro | micw: aptitude reinstall foopkg; |
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| 20:33.16 | DanDare | is apt deprecated ? |
| 20:33.22 | valdyn | DanDare: no |
| 20:33.40 | DanDare | valdyn, i never use aptitude, just apt. Its OK ? |
| 20:33.46 | valdyn | DanDare: yes |
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| 20:33.53 | DanDare | Oh, cool. Thanks |
| 20:34.02 | micw | :) |
| 20:34.07 | micw | ok. i gues that was ist |
| 20:34.21 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: if you've never used aptitude, you should probably try it, but use whatever you want |
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| 20:34.50 | DanDare | dondelelcaro, undersatand. |
| 20:36.05 | valdyn | whenever i switch to aptitude it sooner or later brings me into a situation which I need apt-get to get out of in a way that suits me |
| 20:36.05 | dareth | Some people like super cow powers. |
| 20:36.07 | micw | thanks a lot, the system now boots again |
| 20:36.14 | valdyn | thats not happening the other way around |
| 20:37.07 | dondelelcaro | valdyn: that's not my experience, but then again, I know aptitude really well... |
| 20:37.37 | valdyn | dondelelcaro: yea, i think i could substitute apt-get with certain aptitude commands, but im really not used to it |
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| 20:38.25 | vvaYne | please help! i installed arch on my multiboot-system. now i have got grub1 in my mbr. grub1 doesnt detect my other linux partitions. how can i boot into my other linux systems? |
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| 20:39.12 | valdyn | vvaYne: you should ask in the arch forum or channel since it seems to be the boot loader of arch |
| 20:39.44 | kbar | vvayne, is you just edit the grub configuration you should be able to boot into other linux distros |
| 20:39.50 | kbar | and yeah you should ask #archlinux |
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| 20:41.35 | kephra | is there any light weight image viewer (with automatic thumb nails) compareable to good old xv in debian? |
| 20:41.45 | dondelelcaro | valdyn: oh, the real point of aptitude is the ncurses interface and the search options it has... just using it from the command line is kind of pointless |
| 20:41.55 | dondelelcaro | kephra: I use feh, qiv also works |
| 20:41.57 | greycat | I forward-ported xv. |
| 20:42.04 | kephra | neither xv nor gimv is available |
| 20:42.23 | greycat | xv *was* available... just have to reverse-backport it from the old version ;-) |
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| 20:44.15 | kephra | well qiv is'nt it - has no thumbnails |
| 20:44.36 | kbar | feh is pretty well |
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| 20:44.56 | kephra | and qiv segfaults ;-( |
| 20:45.53 | robokop | pornview works quite well |
| 20:45.56 | greycat | is it a *huge* image? |
| 20:46.20 | kephra | its a directory with lots of images - and I want to know what images I need to copy |
| 20:46.32 | kephra | so I need an image browser (thumbnails) |
| 20:46.46 | kephra | xv would be perfect - but debian no longer ships it |
| 20:47.10 | gnarface | hmm |
| 20:47.16 | gnarface | there was something that was part of e17 |
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| 20:47.24 | gnarface | entice or something like that |
| 20:47.26 | kephra | and patching xv up myself is a pain in the ass |
| 20:47.28 | gnarface | it reminded me of xv in some ways |
| 20:47.57 | greycat | -rw-r--r-- 1 greg greg 396962 Mar 4 2010 xv_3.10a-26.gw1_i386.deb |
| 20:48.31 | robokop | kephra: if you don't mind the name 'pornview' might be what you are looking for |
| 20:48.31 | greycat | can't remember which version of Debian I built it on, though |
| 20:48.37 | gnarface | kephra: check out entice - you may still have to compile it but it probably will compile without patching |
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| 20:48.56 | greycat | ooh, I have an amd64 one too |
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| 20:49.10 | kephra | lets check it, gnarface ;-) |
| 20:49.13 | greycat | -rw-r--r-- 1 greg greg 476320 Jul 16 2011 xv_3.10a-20.1_amd64.deb |
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| 20:51.25 | gnarface | hmm. i wonder if they changed the name |
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| 20:53.02 | Quibus | well, see you |
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| 20:55.33 | vvaYne | how to boot into debian without an grub2 entry, ich am thinking about editing an existing entry.. please help! really urgent |
| 20:56.20 | nemysis | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.35 | kephra | thanks gnarface ;-) |
| 20:56.39 | kephra | cu, next life |
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| 20:59.41 | vvaYne | please help! i installed arch on my multiboot-sysw i have got grub1 in my mbr. grub1 doesnt detect my other linux partitions. how can i boot into my other linux systems? |
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| 21:00.29 | vvaYne | nemysis: sry, what do i have to write into the grub-custom conf |
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| 21:01.08 | asarch | A Debian mirror. What? How? How much? Where? |
| 21:01.15 | nemysis | vvaYne, normaly what You use for entry in grub.cfg |
| 21:01.29 | asarch | What does it take to become an official Debian mirror? |
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| 21:03.52 | Yerodin | He guys. I followed this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-squeeze-ispconfig-2-p4 But I don't get the correct ouput using telnet which should be "250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN" at least. |
| 21:03.59 | Yerodin | What do I actually have to do? |
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| 21:04.25 | dondelelcaro | asarch: http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror#submit |
| 21:04.29 | valdyn | Yerodin: save us from reading that howto please, tell us the port youre telnetting |
| 21:04.41 | Yerodin | 25 |
| 21:04.45 | asarch | Thank you dondelelcaro |
| 21:04.45 | dondelelcaro | asarch: but of course, if you're setting up an official mirror, you really should read (or have already read) that entire page |
| 21:04.49 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
| 21:04.54 | valdyn | Yerodin: what are you getting instead? |
| 21:04.57 | asarch | I will |
| 21:05.06 | asarch | I will print it and read the entire page |
| 21:05.40 | Yerodin | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/9bnwT4n8 |
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| 21:06.31 | valdyn | Yerodin: are you intentionally not showing us the first line(s) ? |
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| 21:07.44 | vvaYne | nemysis: my grub entry looks like that: root (hd0,4) || kernel /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/sda5 ro || initrd /boot/initramfs-linux.img ->>> i changed sda5 to sda7 (aptosid) and i also treid sda8 (debian squeeze).. both didnt work, the system expexted an arch kernel. |
| 21:07.46 | Yerodin | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/fAVBPU17 |
| 21:07.57 | Yerodin | valdyn: What line's missing? |
| 21:08.18 | valdyn | Yerodin: theres no problem |
| 21:09.13 | Yerodin | valdyn: According to that guide there should have been "250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN" |
| 21:09.55 | valdyn | Yerodin: i dont see a problem, no matter what that guide claims you should get |
| 21:10.21 | Yerodin | Hmm, will continue first and see if an issue occures... |
| 21:10.38 | valdyn | Yerodin: youre not getting auth plain, but thats not bad, you dont need to allow plain auth afaict |
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| 21:11.54 | valdyn | Yerodin: but what I dont get is why youre using sendmail |
| 21:12.15 | valdyn | Yerodin: i mean you obviously have no clear idea what youre doing. So sendmail does not seem right |
| 21:12.27 | Yerodin | Its a guide with postfix, valdyn. |
| 21:12.43 | Yerodin | I'm trying to learn, valdyn, in my vm :) |
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| 21:12.58 | valdyn | Yerodin: ok, but this mail server is not postfix |
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| 21:13.12 | vvaYne | nemysis???? |
| 21:13.25 | Yerodin | valdyn: I want to install and configure postfix here. How do I correctly? |
| 21:13.34 | valdyn | Yerodin: "apt-get install postfix" |
| 21:13.51 | valdyn | Yerodin: that should automatically remove sendmail too |
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| 21:14.14 | Yerodin | Yes, it did. |
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| 21:14.27 | valdyn | Yerodin: how did you get sendmail? Is that what youre hoster intalled? |
| 21:14.35 | valdyn | *your* hoster |
| 21:14.55 | Yerodin | valdyn: Some guy installed it for me, but I want postfix more :) |
| 21:15.08 | valdyn | !sendmail |
| 21:15.08 | dpkg | Sendmail is one of the older Mail Transfer Agents, configurable using m4 and its own cf language. If you don't know why you want to use sendmail, consider using <postfix> or <exim> instead. Ask me about <mta comparison> for more information. http://www.sendmail.org/ #sendmail on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 21:15.26 | nemysis | vvaYne, probe dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc |
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| 21:23.39 | Yerodin | valdyn: When I start postfix and do ask the initscript afterwards if its running it says no... |
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| 21:24.25 | valdyn | Yerodin: maybe sendmail is still running |
| 21:24.31 | valdyn | Yerodin: run your telnet thing to see |
| 21:25.30 | valdyn | Yerodin: maybe your misconfigured postfix earlier. I cant know what you did following some weird howto |
| 21:25.31 | Yerodin | valdyn: Uh, now I get telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused when trying to telnet... |
| 21:25.41 | valdyn | Yerodin: good so nothing is running |
| 21:25.50 | valdyn | Yerodin: how do you start postfix? |
| 21:25.57 | klys | DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest; if i had my wits about me I'd say upgrade this harddrive ASAP |
| 21:25.59 | Yerodin | valdyn: Using initscript |
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| 21:26.25 | valdyn | Yerodin: did you already configure postfix at some point? did you answer some dialogues when installing it? |
| 21:26.27 | jhutchins_wk | Log |
| 21:26.42 | valdyn | jhutchins_wk: yea, i was getting to that |
| 21:26.57 | vvaYne | nemysis, i cant boot into the system to reconfigure grub |
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| 21:27.07 | valdyn | klys: depends |
| 21:27.12 | Yerodin | valdyn: Yeah, I did "dpkg-reconfigure postfix" and wrote in what the guide suggested... |
| 21:27.18 | Yerodin | valdyn: Any way to restore defaults? |
| 21:27.19 | nemysis | vvaYne, use single modus then |
| 21:27.37 | valdyn | Yerodin: right now we dont even want to restore defaults. Read the logfile |
| 21:27.39 | klys | valdyn: this time did double-duty |
| 21:27.47 | nemysis | vvaYne, or boot for some LiveCD and chroot in Debian |
| 21:28.04 | Yerodin | valdyn: What logfile, I was looking for some but couldn't find. |
| 21:28.10 | valdyn | klys: ive seen disks act offline for reasosn fixed by a reset of the disk( like a reboot ) |
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| 21:29.09 | klys | valdyn: ide0: reset: success (6 times) |
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| 21:29.37 | valdyn | klys: that's not like a disk power off |
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| 21:30.09 | valdyn | klys: its pretty likely that the disk is truely broken, but im just saying sometimes theres other reasons |
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| 21:30.21 | klys | the thing is I know better because this happened to me before |
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| 21:31.44 | valdyn | Yerodin: probably /var/log/maillog |
| 21:31.54 | valdyn | Yerodin: google is your friend |
| 21:32.20 | Yerodin | valdyn: /var/log/mail.log gives me a lot of Disconnected messages. |
| 21:32.41 | Yerodin | valdyn: Mar 20 22:30:01 luna233 postfix/postqueue[17156]: warning: Mail system is down -- accessing queue directly |
| 21:33.16 | valdyn | Yerodin: thats not useful |
| 21:33.56 | Yerodin | valdyn: Got something... |
| 21:33.57 | valdyn | Yerodin: we need the error where postfix refuses / fails to start. That obviously has to happen *before* postqueue notices that postfix is down |
| 21:33.58 | Yerodin | valdyn: Mar 20 22:33:43 luna233 postfix/master[17303]: fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 143: bad transport type: strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes |
| 21:34.01 | klys | when the harddrive was stolen it was in a zeroed-out state for several sectors at the beginning including where the partition table had been. the only reason I was able to view the data was I had written an LBA sector viewer and had it on a floppy. now it is stolen and no more reason to go there. |
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| 21:34.19 | valdyn | Yerodin: that has to be something you did |
| 21:34.37 | Vasistha | ,checkbackport openshot |
| 21:34.38 | judd | Backporting package openshot in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
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| 21:35.24 | Yerodin | valdyn: How do I set default transport type? |
| 21:35.40 | valdyn | Yerodin: i cant say, i dont know postfix |
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| 21:40.14 | fdoving | Yerodin: can you pastebin master.cf from around line 140 to around 145 ? |
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| 21:40.25 | Yerodin | fdoving: Sure. |
| 21:41.09 | Yerodin | fdoving: http://pastebin.com/Hnfe832e |
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| 21:43.50 | fdoving | Yerodin: if you commented the # submission inet n... line, you also need to comment the lines starting with -o below it. the -o lines are options, for the lines above. |
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| 21:44.18 | Yerodin | fdoving: Makes sense... ty |
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| 21:50.16 | Lovecraft | writes a ballad about Debbie and Ian and their fixation on 'Toy Story'. |
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| 21:53.21 | unzip | hi |
| 21:53.22 | unzip | does anyone know which window manager this is -> http://swoolley.org/files/scshot.png |
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| 21:56.11 | Vasistha | using dpkg -i to install a package I just built; is there an option I can give it that will also cause it to install dependencies? |
| 21:57.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | no |
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| 21:57.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | usually run apt-get -f install after dpkg -i |
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| 21:57.34 | gnarface | unzip: i do *not* know but i'm also curious. if i had to guess i'd say either blackbox with a really clever theme, or maybe ratpoison - but leaning towards the former |
| 21:58.01 | unzip | gnarface, i MUST have this shit |
| 21:59.13 | gnarface | unzip: the "< workspace 8 >" thing at the top makes me think blackbox, that's a pretty distinct blackbox thing, even though i've only seen that in the bottom center, its entirely possible that blackbox theming can allow you to move it. i'm not really all that familiar with blackbox |
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| 22:00.29 | AimHere | unzip > Someone there appears to be connected to ##politics on freenode |
| 22:00.31 | gnarface | unzip: its definitely got the type of look of something like ratpoison though, the fact that it looks like some of the tiles were mouse-positioned makes me think its just something that wants to look like it. i'm even less familiar with ratpoison |
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| 22:00.33 | AimHere | unzip > Ask there ;) |
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| 22:01.00 | gnarface | haha nice catch AimHere |
| 22:01.03 | gnarface | you win one internets |
| 22:01.12 | unzip | AimHere, it is swooley, but he is absent and the others dont know |
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| 22:02.04 | AimHere | It looks like whoever it is has customised gtk as well as his WM |
| 22:02.09 | gnarface | unzip: for all i know it could even be e16, and i'm *using* e16.... its theme engine is just that versatile |
| 22:02.22 | dondelelcaro | unzip: that looks like a fairly heavily customized awesome, but it's difficult to tell |
| 22:02.54 | AimHere | Are there any window managers that use gtk as a theme engine, or did this guy do double the amount of work? |
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| 22:03.05 | gnarface | double |
| 22:03.32 | gnarface | you can tell by his open gimp panel he's clearly got a gtk theme in place to match it |
| 22:03.50 | gnarface | if you could identify it, maybe it would have references to the window manager it goes with? |
| 22:04.11 | gnarface | unlikely to work in that direction but it often goes the other way (e16 themes often refer to the gtk theme they were designed to match) |
| 22:04.58 | gnarface | looks like he's still using the generic icon set from what little i can tell though |
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| 22:11.58 | pickcoder | upgrades are always fun |
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| 22:16.24 | fdoving | unzip: my guess is openbox. |
| 22:16.43 | AimHere | http://sourcemage.org/projects/grimoire/repository/revisions/master/show/windowmanagers <- It's one of those |
| 22:16.56 | unzip | lol, have 5 different guesses now |
| 22:17.22 | AimHere | Openbox doesn't have that slit or whatever you call it at the top. You can add third party ones on, of course |
| 22:18.17 | AimHere | I'm using openbox right now, and the icons are similar |
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| 22:19.19 | flo` | hi |
| 22:19.39 | flo` | when i manually compile cryptsetup statically and use it from a different partition, will that cause trouble? |
| 22:20.14 | flo` | will it especially cause trouble if i use /sbin/cryptsetub and my statically linked cryptsetup on the same volume? |
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| 22:20.25 | flo` | (i.e. i open with the one, then suspend and resume with the other)? |
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| 22:21.35 | fdoving | AimHere: my guess is that the taskbar is tint2 - atleast that is what i used to use back in my *box days. |
| 22:21.58 | AimHere | Quite possibly |
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| 22:35.03 | Ix-Xitan | hi |
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| 22:35.25 | MrHatter | is everyone now using ext4 instead of ext3 ? |
| 22:35.35 | flo` | not |
| 22:35.38 | Zharf | not |
| 22:36.00 | Ix-Xitan | Im trying to install debian on virtualbox now my pc is AMD 64 so ... i chose AMD64 version but its hanging at the installation menu should I use i386 version ? |
| 22:36.01 | flo` | but i'm considering switching to ext4 on my external disk |
| 22:36.15 | flo` | mostly used for backups and storing music, movies etc |
| 22:36.56 | hoverbear | Ix-Xitan: Is the virtual machine 64 bit? |
| 22:37.23 | MrHatter | is ext4 fsck that much faster ? |
| 22:37.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell MrHatter about ext4 |
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| 22:38.05 | Ix-Xitan | hoverbear: ok i tried both normal and 64 bit now the host is probably 32 bit is that the reason ? |
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| 22:39.27 | Ix-Xitan | if the host os is 32 bit shouldnt effect the virtual machine right? if the pc supports 64 bit |
| 22:39.28 | hoverbear | Ix-Xitan: So you're on a 64 bit OS right now? |
| 22:39.45 | MrHatter | i have added 2x 3tb drives to my md system, in the past i have been making 300mb partitions for the purpose of the forced file check and how long it takes. can you think of any other options to work around the forced fsck after a certain amount of days or reboots ? |
| 22:39.54 | karamorf | I've got an odd issue with libsvn-perl. if I try to use the lib (perl -e 'use SVN::Core') it errors out with 'libsvn_client-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file'. when i ldd svn I find 'libsvn_client-1.so.1' what needs fixing so these two things line up? |
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| 22:40.05 | Ix-Xitan | hoverbear : nope 32 bit |
| 22:40.14 | abrotman | MrHatter: you can 'tune' the filesystem to not do that |
| 22:40.23 | MrHatter | abrotman, would you do that ? |
| 22:40.36 | hoverbear | Ix-Xitan: Generally 32 bit won't run 64 bit. :-P |
| 22:40.37 | nvz | Ix-Xitan: in most cases that I know of virtual machines require a 64bit host os and virtualization support in the CPU to emulate 64bit |
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| 22:41.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | isn't the point of virtualbox to be able to do things like that? |
| 22:41.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | qemu can do amd64 on i386 |
| 22:41.53 | abrotman | MrHatter: it's not my data .. you're the one asking to avoid an fsck |
| 22:42.07 | kevlarman | Kamping_Kaiser: it's not particularly useful to fully emulate the cpu |
| 22:42.13 | Ix-Xitan | hmm interesting I never read about this I thought virtualization vives the impression that the guest is running on the very same hardware :P but good to know. thanks Kamping_Kaiser |
| 22:42.20 | Ix-Xitan | gives* |
| 22:42.31 | Ix-Xitan | thanks all :) |
| 22:42.36 | hoverbear | Ix-Xitan: Actually you can tweak the guest hardware in the machine's options in Virtualbox |
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| 22:43.17 | MrHatter | abrotman, i am not asking to avoid it, i am looking for a way of making it maybe faster, or doing it while the fs is live, so it is not sprung upon me a year later if i decide to restart. |
| 22:43.52 | MrHatter | i am wondering if there are other options. |
| 22:44.34 | frostschutz | MrHatter: which filesystem are you using? |
| 22:45.08 | MrHatter | frostschutz, ext3 |
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| 22:46.12 | gnarface | MrHatter: i have a suggestion for a filesystem that will fsck freaking almost instantly (and resize nearly as quickly, should you ever need it) but i'm not allowed to say what it is |
| 22:46.34 | gnarface | zips his lips |
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| 22:46.43 | abrotman | MrHatter: use a different filesystem |
| 22:47.17 | MrHatter | gnarface, i have not cottened on to what you are alluding. |
| 22:47.22 | MrHatter | abrotman, like what ? |
| 22:47.48 | gnarface | looks at abrotman with wide, frightened eyes |
| 22:48.42 | dvs | checks abrotman's forehead |
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| 22:50.21 | Ix-Xitan | ok :) it worked i386 |
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| 22:51.32 | abrotman | MrHatter: there are other filesystems out there, newer filesystems .. I have no idea how stable they are though .. btrfs? zfs? look around a bit .. |
| 22:52.10 | flo` | i want to luksSuspend the device containing my root filesystem. what can i do so that upon resume cryptsetup (which is located there as well) can properly work? |
| 22:52.15 | gnarface | of course there are older file systems too... |
| 22:52.25 | gnarface | not talking about fat32 here |
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| 22:53.16 | abrotman | gnarface: but they are no longer maintained :) |
| 22:53.17 | klys | has anyone seen an affs2 ? |
| 22:53.54 | gnarface | abrotman: neither is e16 but its been working fine for me for at least 13 years |
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| 22:54.09 | MrHatter | abrotman, yes, ext4 is not yet in debian stable, xfs apparently does fast fsck but i havent used it and would rather use one that other people have used and recommend. |
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| 22:54.31 | gnarface | i've used xfs. its got its value |
| 22:54.33 | abrotman | gnarface: it was buggy 10 years ago :) |
| 22:54.44 | abrotman | MrHatter: ext4 is in Debian stable |
| 22:55.01 | abrotman | or am i misremembering ? |
| 22:55.06 | gnarface | abrotman: so was debian :-p |
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| 22:55.22 | abrotman | oh wait .. it doesn't have true support, ignore me |
| 22:55.30 | abrotman | MrHatter: though there is a newer kernel at backports.org |
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| 22:55.46 | gnarface | is actually *not* sure ext4 can even be accessed from a squeeze install unless you do "expert" mode install - because he only ever does expert mode installs |
| 22:56.21 | MrHatter | gnarface, have you noticed speed increase on xfs for fsck ? |
| 22:56.41 | gnarface | MrHatter: i forget. |
| 22:57.06 | gnarface | MrHatter: i only used it once for a 14TB raid array. it never got rebooted. |
| 22:57.57 | gnarface | damn this is hard |
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| 22:58.14 | gnarface | hard to not just answer the freaking question, abrotman :( |
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| 22:58.39 | klys | he said you could ignore him |
| 22:58.52 | gnarface | that's not what he's talking about |
| 22:59.01 | klys | haha |
| 22:59.11 | dondelelcaro | MrHatter: ext4 certainly is in squeeze... it's just not the default |
| 22:59.20 | gnarface | ext4 will not fsck any faster |
| 22:59.23 | abrotman | was it not in lenny? |
| 22:59.40 | gnarface | also ext4 doesn't support block sizes below 1k... so there's that |
| 22:59.42 | silvertip257 | I don't believe ext4 was in Lenny |
| 22:59.45 | klys | kernel stuff is "not in lenny" afaik |
| 22:59.53 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: I don't remember |
| 22:59.55 | abrotman | one of them had ext4_dev, and i can't recall which |
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| 23:00.02 | abrotman | (either squeeze or lenny) |
| 23:00.02 | themill | lenny had ext4-dev |
| 23:00.09 | abrotman | ah okay . then yes, squeeze has ext4 |
| 23:00.46 | silvertip257 | gnarface: xfs cannot be shrunk at all ... which for a NAS is fine, but for a normal system it isn't the best |
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| 23:00.56 | gnarface | silvertip257: good to know |
| 23:01.06 | MrHatter | dondelelcaro, thx |
| 23:01.13 | gnarface | never shrinks anything except his alcohol supply |
| 23:01.46 | gnarface | silvertip257: xfs is not the mysterious filesystem i was alluding to earlier |
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| 23:02.22 | silvertip257 | gnarface: which one? can you just say XYZ fs? |
| 23:02.31 | gnarface | nope |
| 23:02.35 | gnarface | isn't allowed to |
| 23:02.54 | gnarface | abrotman can say it, but he won't |
| 23:02.58 | silvertip257 | ext4, right? |
| 23:03.01 | gnarface | noipe |
| 23:03.33 | silvertip257 | says well go beat around the bush ... |
| 23:03.41 | gnarface | haha |
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| 23:03.54 | gnarface | i already have, as much as i can risk |
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| 23:04.11 | abrotman | gnarface: you could just move on to another topic |
| 23:04.15 | dimaursu16 | hello |
| 23:04.20 | klys | hil |
| 23:04.25 | unzip | <swoolley> it's fluxbox with custom fb and gtk themes and my own font |
| 23:04.36 | silvertip257 | abrotman: sorry for bringing it back up ... he said "some mysterious fs" and I inquired |
| 23:04.39 | gnarface | unzip: hooraaay! |
| 23:04.45 | gnarface | unzip: mystery solved! |
| 23:05.03 | dimaursu16 | it is possible to design using new glade GTK2 UI's? |
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| 23:05.23 | klys | unzip: do you still have the screenshot? |
| 23:05.39 | dimaursu16 | I can't see any options which specifies which version of gtk I'm using |
| 23:05.40 | unzip | http://swoolley.org/files/scshot.png |
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| 23:06.51 | MrHatter | gnarface is talking about a filing cabinet. |
| 23:07.00 | gnarface | most certainly is not |
| 23:07.07 | gnarface | its nothing so facetious or petty |
| 23:07.42 | gnarface | also fyi you can't resize a file cabinet and fscking it takes FOREVER |
| 23:08.20 | klys | fsck cabinet, like |
| 23:09.04 | klys | ...16 old chimps who just went to the wall... |
| 23:09.07 | MrHatter | what about online fsck ? any talk of that in linux ? i think freebsd has this ? |
| 23:09.26 | gnarface | hmm. i think you can *check* them if you remount read-only |
| 23:09.34 | gnarface | but that's not quite the same thing as being able to fix stuff online |
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| 23:09.58 | klys | you mean fsck.git cvs? |
| 23:10.11 | dbarragan | \join abramart |
| 23:10.39 | gnarface | klys: there's a git version of fsck that works for read-write online filesystems? |
| 23:10.44 | klys | haha |
| 23:10.56 | pom | If I add an ip address with ip addr add x.x.x.x/x dev eth0, shouldn't that be enough to get the machine to start answering this address= |
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| 23:11.52 | klys | pcm, no, your route must face this subnet on the remote |
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| 23:12.21 | abrotman | he doesn't require a route |
| 23:12.47 | klys | get abrotman to start answering this address= |
| 23:13.03 | abrotman | he didn't say it was outside his LAN ? |
| 23:13.03 | pom | Am I pcm? |
| 23:13.16 | gnarface | probably |
| 23:13.22 | abrotman | yes |
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| 23:13.30 | klys | pcm is sox stuff, buy a usb XLR mixer |
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| 23:13.44 | pom | http://pastebin.com/HfmvCCmb is my "ip a" |
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| 23:14.03 | pom | Does it look like it's lacking anything? |
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| 23:14.44 | abrotman | pom: what have you done to try to test it ? |
| 23:15.01 | nikitis | Is there a reason I cannot sudo echo "deb http://somesourcehere experimental main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 23:15.08 | nikitis | I get permission denied |
| 23:15.28 | themill | nikitis: yes. |
| 23:15.28 | pom | abrotman: Nothing of the right kind, because it works, I can see. Problem with ARP probably. |
| 23:15.32 | abrotman | nikitis: because you didn't quote the whole command |
| 23:15.40 | nikitis | ? |
| 23:15.44 | themill | dpkg: tell nikitis about experimental |
| 23:15.46 | klys | nikitis: are you running sid or wheezy? |
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| 23:15.59 | nikitis | klys: no i'm compiling 3.2.11 for Playstation 3 |
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| 23:16.25 | nikitis | trying to figure out how to get updated gcc |
| 23:16.32 | nikitis | on a debootstrap installation |
| 23:16.41 | klys | apt-cache search gcc |
| 23:17.11 | abrotman | how will that help? |
| 23:17.22 | nikitis | gcc 4.4 isn't good enough |
| 23:17.39 | nikitis | it crashes at CC kernel/signal.o during kernel compile |
| 23:17.51 | abrotman | mayve that's a problem with the code? |
| 23:17.52 | klys | you have compiler error? |
| 23:17.53 | nikitis | I figured if I go experimental to get higher gcc |
| 23:17.56 | nikitis | klys: yes |
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| 23:18.36 | nikitis | klys: http://pastie.org/3638244 |
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| 23:19.55 | klys | nikitis: mebbe a compiler downgrade would help just as well |
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| 23:20.10 | nikitis | klys: what does that mean? |
| 23:20.19 | klys | gcc272 |
| 23:20.38 | nikitis | how would i get that on there? |
| 23:20.44 | nikitis | it's debootstrapped system |
| 23:20.48 | nikitis | not sure i can change that |
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| 23:21.02 | klys | apt-get install gcc272 |
| 23:21.15 | themill | makes klys try that |
| 23:21.25 | abrotman | klys: are you on drugs? |
| 23:21.26 | themill | nikitis: feel free to ignore klys. |
| 23:21.41 | klys | did compile hpfs.o using gcc272 earlier today |
| 23:22.15 | nikitis | if someone could tell me why exactly i get that kernel compile error |
| 23:22.16 | nikitis | i may take a different path |
| 23:22.16 | nikitis | cause i don't understand why |
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| 23:22.47 | klys | sigsegv |
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| 23:23.56 | abrotman | klys: where is the signal in his paste? |
| 23:24.16 | nikitis | yeah, don't see that either |
| 23:24.17 | klys | no, just saying my hpfs.o resulted in a sigsegv |
| 23:24.23 | nikitis | oh |
| 23:24.35 | abrotman | nikitis: you'd do better to ignore klys |
| 23:24.42 | abrotman | nikitis: why do you need that newer kernel ? |
| 23:24.58 | nikitis | abrotman: there's a lot of things requiring it for PS3 development. HW drivers etc |
| 23:25.05 | nikitis | i already have 2.6 working |
| 23:25.18 | nikitis | but it's not satisfactory |
| 23:25.32 | nikitis | a lot of design decesions have already been made |
| 23:25.44 | nikitis | not really negotiable. Needs to be 3.2.11 |
| 23:25.54 | abrotman | nikitis: have you asked #gcc or #kernel why it might not compile ? |
| 23:25.58 | nikitis | nope |
| 23:26.02 | nikitis | i'll do that though |
| 23:26.09 | nikitis | freenode? |
| 23:26.59 | klys | abrotman: yuo know it's freenode |
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| 23:27.38 | abrotman | wtf is wrong with klys ? |
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| 23:29.24 | gnarface | suspects he's either a bot or on crack |
| 23:29.34 | maxorator | Ìû |
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| 23:31.05 | gnarface | no clue |
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| 23:32.18 | Mephisto | question |
| 23:32.31 | Mephisto | what's been going on with backported iceweasel repo? |
| 23:32.53 | Mephisto | either it's down or the support for 3.6 and other versions has been cancelled or something |
| 23:33.19 | Mephisto | my repo for 3.6 doesn't work anymore and on their website there's no 3.6 or 10.0... only 3.5, beta, aurora etc |
| 23:33.33 | abrotman | what? |
| 23:33.39 | Mephisto | yep. |
| 23:33.46 | abrotman | from mozilla.debian.net ? |
| 23:33.48 | Mephisto | it's been like this for a few days |
| 23:33.50 | Mephisto | yeah. |
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| 23:33.59 | Mephisto | no 3.6, no 10... |
| 23:34.00 | themill | s/days/months/ |
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| 23:34.17 | Mephisto | i'm not sure about months... for a week for sure. |
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| 23:35.21 | Mephisto | hopefully it's just down.. but it doesn't quite look like that since they removed it from their website too... i mean repository generation according to your choice. |
| 23:35.31 | Mephisto | that seems like a planned action. |
| 23:35.45 | abrotman | oh, he's right .. ti's version 11 on their site |
| 23:35.49 | abrotman | no 3.6, no 10 |
| 23:36.05 | Mephisto | which is 11th? How is it called there? |
| 23:36.23 | abrotman | it's called iceweasel .. did you try reading the instructions on the site, or just come here to be spoonfed as normal ? |
| 23:36.29 | themill | Mephisto: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2115 yes, months. July last year. |
| 23:36.33 | antiisolo | I just used unetbootin to create a bootable sdcard, somehow the 4.6 gig iso become too big for my 8gig card, so i downloaded the smaller 156mb debian.. doing installation, it picked up no network.. couldnt pick up my ethernet, or wireless card.. i went along with it, and now have debian terminal, no gui, and no internet |
| 23:36.38 | antiisolo | any suggestions? |
| 23:36.40 | Mephisto | abrotman, you don't quite get it. |
| 23:36.52 | abrotman | uhhuh .. |
| 23:37.03 | Mephisto | abrotman, or you just insist on being fired back. I dunno man, you always have some probs. |
| 23:37.10 | abrotman | Mephisto: did you try the 'release' channel ? |
| 23:37.42 | Mephisto | yeah, that's what i tried. I'm not an idiot. |
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| 23:37.58 | abrotman | bites his tongue |
| 23:38.05 | Mephisto | 3.5, esr, aurora, beta |
| 23:38.37 | gnarface | saw abrotman bite his tongue for the first time ever, and nearly choked on his drink |
| 23:38.47 | Mephisto | hey gnarface! |
| 23:38.52 | Mephisto | nice to see you buddy |
| 23:38.57 | gnarface | 'sup man? |
| 23:39.00 | abrotman | aw, how cute |
| 23:39.23 | klys | was eating, meanwhile thanks |
| 23:39.34 | Mephisto | nah.. just chilling. Finished watching a movie, planning to do another one.. just dropped by to ask what's wrong with the iceweasel repo.. well, i still got 3.6 thank goodness... but i think that's it. |
| 23:39.44 | Mephisto | yeah abrotman, he's a good guy. Unlike some other people here ;) |
| 23:39.59 | Mephisto | anyways.... won't bother ya all. |
| 23:40.08 | gnarface | i've no idea what's going wrong with the iceweasel backports... sorry. haven't even been looking |
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| 23:40.17 | gnarface | i kinda liked 3.6 |
| 23:40.18 | abrotman | anyway .. http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/icedove-release/binary-i386/Packages |
| 23:40.25 | Mephisto | icedove.. |
| 23:40.36 | Mephisto | gnarface, many people like 3.6. |
| 23:40.37 | abrotman | sorry, change it to iceweasel, still works |
| 23:41.09 | themill | Mephisto: as usual, absence of real information and presence of ranting on your part leads to absence of help. Please start again and ask a concrete question that we have a chance of answering. |
| 23:41.11 | themill | dpkg: tell Mephisto about ask |
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| 23:41.14 | klys | started with iceweasel-wheezy, and it thrashed the system I had to reset X |
| 23:41.30 | Mephisto | themill, well... |
| 23:42.06 | abrotman | gnarface: i can't believe you're not nice to him .. |
| 23:42.13 | antiisolo | damn, guess not :/ |
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| 23:42.27 | Mephisto | themill, just nevermind, ok? I got my answer anyway. Seems like most people haven't got to know that yet. |
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| 23:43.04 | gnarface | abrotman: ? |
| 23:43.33 | gnarface | abrotman: i actually don't know |
| 23:44.01 | themill | Mephisto: you didn't get any answer other than "nothing has changed" but you didn't like that. |
| 23:44.42 | klys | you know, somwhere in the ethereal wired is the place where I care about you, though trust is complicated, and it's usually not irc, it does exist. |
| 23:44.57 | gnarface | klys: can you prove you're not a bot? |
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| 23:45.10 | klys | tob |
| 23:45.20 | Mephisto | themill, well, pardon me, but i didn't quite understand what he meant. Do you mean to tell me that i have to change the repo to Icedove and i still get Iceweasel 3.6? That's kinda eerie. |
| 23:45.29 | gnarface | klys: maybe recite for us a haiku you composed yourself |
| 23:45.33 | abrotman | wtf ... |
| 23:45.36 | gnarface | klys: a haiku about debian |
| 23:45.37 | themill | klys: how about you take a break from #debian and come back when you either make more sense or are more sober |
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| 23:46.00 | themill | Mephisto: no. nothing has changed. nothing. |
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| 23:46.45 | Mephisto | themill, well, listen, i don't get iceweasel 3.6 niether from the repo or the website. I just don't see it anymore. I dunno what you mean by "nothing's changed". Human hasn't changed much, that's true. Same stupid. But.. what about iceweasel? :) |
| 23:46.58 | abrotman | Mephisto: what's wrong with 11? |
| 23:47.13 | Mephisto | abrotman, well, nothing... i'll be using it in future i guess. |
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| 23:47.21 | Mephisto | abrotman, but i don't see 11 either. |
| 23:47.25 | Mephisto | let me just make a screen.. |
| 23:47.41 | abrotman | i already pointed you at it .. did you read? |
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| 23:47.51 | abrotman | wait .. nevermind .. i know the answer |
| 23:47.53 | Mephisto | yeah, i read. But i didn't get it, sorry. |
| 23:47.57 | gnarface | suspects klys is a bot. pretty clever one too |
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| 23:48.01 | Mephisto | is that what you were gonna say? :) |
| 23:48.23 | Mephisto | from what i heard i have to change it to Icedove and that's how i get Iceweasel 11. |
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| 23:48.44 | themill | Mephisto: "release" |
| 23:48.46 | Mephisto | that's rich. The question is... why would anyone put rice in a sack that's labeled "potatoes"? |
| 23:48.55 | Mephisto | fine. |
| 23:49.02 | gnarface | Mephisto: http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release/binary-i386/Packages i think he just meant to substitute "iceweasel" for icedove in that url he mis-pasetd |
| 23:49.05 | abrotman | Mephisto: I TOLD YOU SORRY .. I MADE A FUCKING TYPO .. |
| 23:49.12 | abrotman | jesus .. you're so damn dense |
| 23:49.13 | gnarface | Mephisto: i still don't know what to do with this though |
| 23:49.23 | Mephisto | ok, got it :) |
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| 23:49.37 | Mephisto | gnarface, basically you use it as a repo, without any version specified. |
| 23:49.43 | Mephisto | gnarface, but he couldn't just say so. |
| 23:49.49 | Mephisto | gnarface, it's too damn complicated. |
| 23:49.53 | abrotman | clearly Mephisto needs to read the instructions .. because he hasn't |
| 23:49.56 | abrotman | not even close |
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| 23:50.06 | abrotman | if he had, he'd know how to make this work |
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| 23:50.20 | abrotman | they have extremely simple instructions on their site .. mozilla.debian.net .. please go read them |
| 23:50.32 | abrotman | they're so easy I bet even themill could figure it out |
| 23:51.11 | Mephisto | abrotman, listen, i got it already, ok? It's just that they've changed it and it's confusing. Yeah, i didn't bother reading that, 'cause i read it before. |
| 23:51.23 | Mephisto | abrotman, and first thing that i saw is that previous stuff is missing |
| 23:51.41 | Mephisto | and now they made me change that damn repo to something else |
| 23:51.45 | abrotman | go read, then come back and blab some more |
| 23:51.52 | Mephisto | wtf... ) |
| 23:52.12 | Mephisto | read me, i GOT it. |
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| 23:53.12 | maxorator | Ìû |
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| 23:53.55 | abrotman | maxorator: please message me when you've fixed your client to not output random junk |
| 23:54.09 | gnarface | it wasn't random... it was the exact same junk every time |
| 23:54.20 | abrotman | it's nonsensical ? |
| 23:54.29 | gnarface | to me, it is |
| 23:54.33 | ix | abrotman: Just observed the same behaviour on another channel (from another host) |
| 23:54.45 | abrotman | yeah, i heard .. maybe staff will find him and figure out what's going on |
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| 23:55.11 | gnarface | also i think klys is almost certainly a bot - or else REALLY stoned and uncooperative ... but i'm betting on either a really clever bot or just someone pretending to be |
| 23:55.23 | gnarface | wonders how many people in here are actually bots |
| 23:56.02 | Mephisto | the thing is, previous version was better, cause it wouldn't ask me to upgrade to 10-11. But now it's probably because mozilla has finally cancelled the release of Firefox 3.6 (last version 3.6.28), so they decided to put it altogether. |
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| 23:56.15 | Mephisto | joint repo. |
| 23:56.36 | Mephisto | but noone... i said NOONE said that here. They'd rather tell me to go and read ABCs instead. |
| 23:56.39 | Mephisto | oh well. |
| 23:58.38 | gnarface | Mephisto: heh. don't ever tell kevlarman he's wrong fyi. he's way less fair+just than abrotman |
| 23:58.54 | gnarface | goes back to training the klys bot |
| 23:59.24 | gnarface | tries to train it to write a debian haiku |
