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| 00:06.04 | aero__ | Where can I change the key combination for changing virtual desktops? |
| 00:06.26 | aero__ | nevermind |
| 00:07.56 | dvs | !next |
| 00:07.56 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 00:08.40 | streuner | dvs, happy in order to solve his/her own question? |
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| 00:08.48 | streuner | you are right then :-) |
| 00:09.02 | dvs | heh |
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| 00:09.18 | streuner | nm, it was a joke... |
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| 00:10.21 | streuner | (its a totally mess if somebody asking about virtual desktops/system)... |
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| 00:11.10 | korri | Hi guys, need help with my debian |
| 00:11.28 | korri | I upgraded my server wich was still using lenny to stable |
| 00:11.39 | streuner | production server? |
| 00:11.43 | korri | Yes |
| 00:11.47 | streuner | omg |
| 00:12.09 | korri | Not like an important one ;) But still production :p |
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| 00:12.46 | korri | It works ok now, but I can't manage to get linux-vserver to work now |
| 00:13.49 | korri | I have linux-image-vserver-686 installed but it seems to work with 2.6.32 kernel, and it looks like now I'm using 3.2.13 kernel |
| 00:14.10 | dvs | on production? |
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| 00:14.40 | streuner | hm, sources.list might be tricky then :-P |
| 00:14.51 | korri | Yeah kinda, but it's still my personal server, with my blog, a team forum and a few things |
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| 00:15.34 | streuner | wth, are you using a 3.2 kernel? |
| 00:15.58 | korri | I don't know, I'm with OVH |
| 00:16.14 | korri | The uname-r gives me 3.2.13-xxxx-std-ipv6-32 |
| 00:16.37 | korri | but I don't see anything that gives me 3.2.13 anywhere else |
| 00:17.11 | korri | like update-grub gives only 2.6.32-5 |
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| 00:17.41 | streuner | that makes no sense at all to me |
| 00:17.57 | streuner | you said you are using a 3.2 kernel... |
| 00:18.15 | streuner | grub should be able to show you in any cases... |
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| 00:18.26 | korri | Yeah cause since I used dist-upgrade |
| 00:18.34 | korri | uname -r shows 3.2 |
| 00:18.43 | korri | Is uname -r reliable ? |
| 00:18.54 | streuner | korri: please show us your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 00:19.22 | somiaj | is this a vps? |
| 00:19.33 | streuner | korri: top seems to show sometimes different values, but uname? no |
| 00:20.49 | korri | Here: http://pastebin.com/eQxH700r |
| 00:21.09 | korri | nop it's a dedicated server, but is used OVH sources |
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| 00:22.01 | streuner | great, with that sources.list, i would shout myself better :-) |
| 00:22.17 | korri | Realy ? why ? |
| 00:22.17 | streuner | thats a bad joke |
| 00:22.35 | streuner | well, no real official Debian repos... |
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| 00:23.18 | korri | Yeah, they are giving a few updated packages to work with the Real Time Monitoring and things like that, but everything is pretty much like the oficial one |
| 00:23.45 | streuner | apart, that nothing really works :-/ |
| 00:23.56 | korri | Just found that http://repo.psand.net doesn't super "stable", I'll try with "squeeze" shouldn't I ? |
| 00:24.20 | somiaj | yea its better to use squeeze than stable as when stable changes you don't want to upgrade until you are ready |
| 00:24.36 | somiaj | and the dotdeb sources aren't considered that good |
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| 00:24.37 | somiaj | !dotdeb |
| 00:24.37 | dpkg | dotdeb is for the latest PHP and MySQL releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/ , but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN. The packages from backports.debian.org are vastly superior. Ask me about <backports> and <debian-backports>. To remove: "aptitude purge '~Vdotdeb'" |
| 00:24.41 | themill | it's hard to imagine that postfix for sarge is going to be good there either |
| 00:26.00 | korri | It works pretty well :p But I must admit I did that the crapy way :s |
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| 00:26.20 | streuner | no |
| 00:26.34 | streuner | it didnt work, if you have to ask here then... |
| 00:27.08 | korri | The probleme is with vserver and the kernel, I doubt that it can come from my postfix repo. can it ? |
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| 00:28.24 | streuner | whatever you think about postfix, but the repo which is responsible for 3.2 kernel is just wrong |
| 00:28.56 | streuner | or you have a backports entry in your sources.list, and thats not the case... |
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| 00:30.05 | streuner | korri: the whole thing about Debian is in most case the sources.list |
| 00:30.12 | korri | Ok |
| 00:30.21 | streuner | and if you using the wrong one, its all crap, IMO |
| 00:32.48 | korri | So I should remove dotdeb and postfix ? |
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| 00:34.40 | somiaj | I would first figure out where that kernel came from, then consider not using the dotdeb sources, you may want to remove the packages they isntalled |
| 00:35.53 | streuner | korri: apt-cache policy <package> give you an idea *where* the kernel came from... |
| 00:35.56 | themill | this isn't just a case of the virtual machine using the host kernel is it? |
| 00:36.14 | streuner | omg |
| 00:36.16 | streuner | true |
| 00:36.31 | korri | ? |
| 00:36.34 | streuner | (that could be the next problem) |
| 00:36.58 | somiaj | he said it was a deticated server. |
| 00:37.01 | korri | I'm running a virtual machine with vserver, but my server is a phisical one |
| 00:37.13 | dalkor | new to not shared hosting, tying to change $path, but I seem to be blind. |
| 00:37.25 | dalkor | *.bashrc |
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| 00:37.46 | streuner | korri: so *YOU* installed the kernel, not the hoster? |
| 00:38.07 | streuner | korri: is that possible? |
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| 00:38.48 | korri | The debian came preinstalled, but it was like 2 years ago |
| 00:38.58 | aussa | hi, when running winetricks it tells me "wineserver not found" how do I solve that? |
| 00:39.22 | streuner | korri: sure, but you have no influence what kind of kernel your hoster running? |
| 00:39.30 | jbrks | anyone picked up on this arizona law bill about trolling? lol.. someone mentioned it on #linux.. |
| 00:39.32 | korri | I made a dist-upgrade today fron lenny to squeeze |
| 00:40.08 | korri | Yes I do, I had installed the vserver one, but it seems to have gone away on the upgrade |
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| 00:43.07 | streuner | well, so i go to the say from somiaj about deticaded server |
| 00:44.22 | streuner | korri: your hoster gave a sources.list, thats modern these days, but i wouldnt use it :-P |
| 00:44.55 | korri | Isn't it to late to change ? |
| 00:45.11 | streuner | maybe, libc6 would tell you |
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| 00:45.38 | korri | libc6 ? how ? |
| 00:45.51 | streuner | korri: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 00:46.16 | streuner | (in case that a 3.2 kernel is installed...) |
| 00:46.26 | streuner | shakes his head |
| 00:47.00 | streuner | korri: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 (you want to spam the channel)... |
| 00:47.05 | dalkor | nvm, I'm blind because files are hidden. |
| 00:47.06 | streuner | dont* |
| 00:47.49 | korri | ii libc6 2.11.3-2 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 00:47.57 | korri | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.57 | streuner | judd, versions libc6 |
| 00:47.58 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze: 2.11.3-2; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.11.3-3; squeeze-updates: 2.11.3-3; sid: 2.13-27; wheezy: 2.13-27 |
| 00:47.59 | korri | wups |
| 00:48.34 | streuner | hm, it seems its stable/squeeze then :-) |
| 00:48.40 | korri | :) |
| 00:48.56 | korri | So why is my uname -r 3.2.13 >_< |
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| 00:49.22 | streuner | makes no sense to me, according to your answers |
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| 00:49.36 | korri | >_< |
| 00:49.55 | streuner | are you able to install any kernels you want? |
| 00:50.00 | korri | Yes |
| 00:50.13 | korri | I think, I'm not really a kernel expert |
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| 00:50.39 | aussa | is there a wine channel? |
| 00:50.51 | streuner | aussa: /msg dpkg wine |
| 00:52.34 | somiaj | korri: dpkg -l | grep linux-image (do you see any strange linux images installed)? |
| 00:52.59 | somiaj | korri: also ls /boot/ -- do you see the 3.2 kernel image sitting in there? |
| 00:53.27 | korri | no 3.2 on any of those |
| 00:53.49 | korri | I have 2.6.26, 2.6.31 and 2.6.31 installed |
| 00:53.54 | korri | and vserver-686 |
| 00:54.20 | korri | looks like the default one is the vserver one |
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| 00:54.44 | somiaj | korri: those are strange kernel versions, care to put ls /boot on a pastebin |
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| 00:55.33 | korri | Here somiaj http://pastebin.com/bUgG9zfK |
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| 00:56.37 | korri | vserver seems to accept the kernel now that I replace stable by squeeze (upgraded and rebooted), but I still have the 3.2 uname -r |
| 00:57.06 | streuner | normally impossible according to your sources.list |
| 00:57.07 | LinuxGuy2009 | I decided to install all four of the main desktop environments on seperate partitions so I can learn each environment and keep them seperated. I need to know where I can edit the grub menu list to mark each one with (GNOME), (KDE), etc? |
| 00:57.33 | streuner | korri: someone else have the right to alter the system? |
| 00:57.40 | korri | (BTW vserver now shows : "vc_new_s_context(): Function not implemented" if anyone knows how to fix this, google doesn't give me anything usefull) |
| 00:57.44 | somiaj | korri: dmesg | head -- lets see what kernel it says you booted onto |
| 00:57.50 | korri | streuner, no, only me |
| 00:57.53 | somiaj | korri: again output at pastebin |
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| 00:58.31 | dvs | LinuxGuy2009: Why put them on separate partitions when ?dm can switch between them? |
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| 00:58.58 | korri | somiaj, http://pastebin.com/pBQR40xp |
| 00:59.17 | LinuxGuy2009 | dvs: I know that already but I hate mixing QT and GTK apps. |
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| 01:00.53 | streuner | Linux version 3.2.13-xxxx-std-ipv6-32 (root@kernel-32.ovh.net) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Debian 4.3.2-1.1) ) #1 SMP Wed Mar 28 11:20:23 UTC 2012 |
| 01:01.00 | streuner | here we go... |
| 01:01.04 | streuner | ovh.net |
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| 01:01.29 | korri | :s |
| 01:01.40 | streuner | (it seems to me, they made there own kernel...) |
| 01:01.47 | streuner | insane |
| 01:01.56 | somiaj | korri: hmm, it is almost seeming like you are on a vps and that kernel is provided by your host. One last thing, grep 3.2 /boot/grub/* |
| 01:02.20 | somiaj | thoug can't see how they got it on his system, can't seem to find the actual kernel image |
| 01:02.27 | korri | /boot/grub/menu.lst:# password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/ |
| 01:02.27 | korri | /boot/grub/menu.lst~:# password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/ |
| 01:02.54 | korri | I am using there sources in sources.list, that must be where it comes from |
| 01:03.03 | somiaj | must be some virtuailzation layer, they are pvoiding you that kernel. I would talk to them about it. |
| 01:03.17 | anoob | i've compiled php5.3.10 and now i want to configure it with apache2 (installed through the repository)... I can't just install 5.4 from repository because it break a lot of old php applications ... how do i configure both? |
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| 01:03.55 | streuner | php is just a nightmare... |
| 01:04.44 | streuner | (if you are insane enough to compile php, you should know what you are doing) |
| 01:04.49 | korri | ok, somiaj thanks for the help :) |
| 01:04.58 | anoob | streuner, thanks |
| 01:05.06 | jbrks | thinks all the script kiddies will go broke when jboss becomes everybody's boss. |
| 01:05.19 | streuner | anoob: sorry, IMO |
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| 01:10.45 | nevyn | LIKE A JBOSS ? |
| 01:10.54 | cantido | script kiddies have a wage? |
| 01:11.40 | cantido | doesnt see why compiling php would be all that insane IMO |
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| 01:22.29 | peterrooney | funny question, some process on my machine is occasionally allocating vt # 63 for something - any ideas on how would I go about finding out what's doing it? |
| 01:23.38 | nsadmin | peterrooney, switch to it? |
| 01:24.03 | peterrooney | nsadmin: there's never anything there. |
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| 01:24.41 | peterrooney | I only stumbled across it using alt-leftarrow from vt 1 |
| 01:24.45 | nsadmin | do you know the device node? /dev/tty63? |
| 01:25.14 | nsadmin | what about using lsof or fuser? |
| 01:25.32 | peterrooney | uh huh. lsof shows nothing. |
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| 01:26.20 | nsadmin | so the process may be gone or may have closed it and went on, meanwhile the tty is still created |
| 01:26.38 | peterrooney | exactly. |
| 01:27.24 | dvs | hides his backdoor |
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| 01:27.38 | nsadmin | I was to this point unaware of alt-leftarrow, so I went to tty1 and tried it... got to tty7, my x |
| 01:28.27 | peterrooney | OMJF, that's weird. I thought I'd never be able to show you something useful. |
| 01:28.49 | peterrooney | now if only lsof had a feature like `tail -f' |
| 01:29.15 | nsadmin | or if you could put a fileopen watchpoint on /dev/ttyx |
| 01:29.35 | peterrooney | ooh, sounds interesting... |
| 01:29.58 | nsadmin | let's see, so you'd have to wedge the file open syscall... |
| 01:30.22 | nsadmin | and it would look thru a list |
| 01:30.33 | peterrooney | has no desire to hack into the kernel. |
| 01:30.37 | nsadmin | already feel my machine slowing down... |
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| 01:31.02 | nsadmin | me neither, you could do that or hack/wedge the lib |
| 01:32.27 | peterrooney | found it - putting lsof on repeat with 0.1 second interval - culprit is Xorg. WTF? |
| 01:33.02 | nsadmin | interesting... when does it open it? |
| 01:33.14 | nsadmin | what version of debian? |
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| 01:34.01 | peterrooney | squeeze |
| 01:34.13 | nsadmin | same here... hmm. what's different... |
| 01:35.25 | nsadmin | when I do dpkg -s xserver-xorg | grep Version |
| 01:35.56 | nsadmin | I get Version: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1 |
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| 01:36.49 | peterrooney | also Version: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1 here |
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| 01:38.06 | peterrooney | I suspect some leftover screensaver. (gdm, e16) |
| 01:38.27 | nsadmin | I'm not running either of those |
| 01:38.29 | peterrooney | no, that wouldn't be right. |
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| 01:44.05 | korri | Anyone know where this error might come from : " vc_new_s_context(): Function not implemented " when starting vserver ? |
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| 02:20.56 | nsadmin | , versions postgresql |
| 02:20.58 | judd | Package: postgresql on i386 -- lenny-security: 8.3.16-0lenny1; lenny: 8.3.17-0lenny1; lenny-backports: 8.4.9-0squeeze1~bpo50+1; lenny-backports: 8.4.10-0squeeze1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 8.4.10-0squeeze1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 8.4.11-0squeeze1; squeeze-security: 8.4.11-0squeeze1; lenny-backports-sloppy: 9.1+124~bpo50+1; sid: 9.1+129; wheezy: 9.1+129 |
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| 02:34.18 | migra | why doesn't debian support ipv6 aliases in the interfaces file? |
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| 02:41.21 | klys | ok |
| 02:41.49 | klys | su I just did mv /lib /du/lib (it was an accident) |
| 02:42.59 | klys | can I ise LD_PRELOAD or is ldso reachable? |
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| 02:45.01 | seeker61 | just installed cupswrappermfc5840cn for a brother printer and the smaller fonts print blurred if black color prints just fine |
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| 02:56.23 | klys | ok I got it |
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| 02:56.47 | [eR]Jester | hey so.. |
| 02:56.51 | [eR]Jester | I was fapping |
| 02:56.52 | [eR]Jester | and my dick |
| 02:56.53 | [eR]Jester | fell |
| 02:56.54 | [eR]Jester | LOL |
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| 02:58.25 | gnarface | [eR]Jester: is that a debian issue? |
| 02:58.32 | [eR]Jester | debian? |
| 02:58.33 | [eR]Jester | thafk. |
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| 02:58.40 | [eR]Jester | yes it is. |
| 02:58.42 | [eR]Jester | I have problems. |
| 02:58.44 | [eR]Jester | fix them. |
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| 02:59.06 | [eR]Jester | Dbug |
| 02:59.08 | [eR]Jester | more like. |
| 02:59.10 | [eR]Jester | DFuck |
| 02:59.10 | [eR]Jester | LOL |
| 02:59.11 | nsadmin | formats [eR]Jester's dick |
| 02:59.15 | nsadmin | there, fixed |
| 02:59.19 | [eR]Jester | Thanks. |
| 02:59.21 | [eR]Jester | I owe you one. |
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| 03:00.24 | [eR]Jester | slaps eAndrius around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.25 | [eR]Jester | slaps DustyDin1o around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.26 | [eR]Jester | slaps Dunedan around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.27 | [eR]Jester | slaps ed1703 around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.28 | [eR]Jester | slaps EdePopede around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.29 | [eR]Jester | slaps ekix around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.31 | [eR]Jester | slaps Dybber around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.33 | [eR]Jester | slaps e_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.34 | [eR]Jester | slaps dv_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.36 | [eR]Jester | slaps durarara around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.37 | [eR]Jester | slaps duga around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.41 | [eR]Jester | slaps Eryn_1983_FL around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.43 | [eR]Jester | slaps Emmanuel_Chanel around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.43 | [eR]Jester | slaps elbing around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.45 | [eR]Jester | slaps Elision around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.45 | nsadmin | !ops [eR]Jester flood |
| 03:00.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: nsadmin complains about: [eR]Jester flood |
| 03:00.46 | [eR]Jester | slaps eon01 around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.49 | [eR]Jester | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.50 | [eR]Jester | FAIL |
| 03:00.52 | [eR]Jester | LOL |
| 03:00.54 | [eR]Jester | slaps ered around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.55 | LtL | mirc lamer |
| 03:00.56 | [eR]Jester | slaps Fudge around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.58 | [eR]Jester | slaps folivora around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:00.59 | [eR]Jester | slaps fredy around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:01.00 | [eR]Jester | slaps firztspawn around a bit with a large trout |
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| 03:01.23 | nsadmin | tnx. |
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| 03:02.11 | cantido | thinks there should be an IQ test on the bottom of ISP contracts |
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| 03:02.59 | EdePopede | they simply shouldn't sell computers with preinstalled OS |
| 03:03.19 | LtL | good ideas -both |
| 03:03.58 | cantido | if you sign up to facebook or twitter a massive log should swing down and smash your head off IMHO |
| 03:04.02 | EdePopede | only wondering, no flood limit? |
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| 03:04.32 | LtL | EdePopede: debhelper has been drinking on the job. |
| 03:04.46 | nsadmin | for that kind of flood, the limit is triggered by increasing level of annoyance :) |
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| 03:04.59 | zydingxiaomei | o |
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| 03:05.13 | nsadmin | too much motor oil... |
| 03:05.28 | peter5 | EdePopede: the normal limit is a 4th line within, like, 1 second. If you wait 1 second between lines, you avoid it. |
| 03:05.44 | EdePopede | uh, hard to beat without script |
| 03:05.57 | EdePopede | or copy |
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| 03:06.21 | cantido | EdePopede: just blanket block IPs that have posted to 4chan |
| 03:06.30 | cantido | 99% of trollers gone |
| 03:06.31 | zydingxiaomei | what about linu mint debian? |
| 03:06.43 | zydingxiaomei | linux mint debian |
| 03:06.49 | cantido | zydingxiaomei: anything that isnt called "debian" isnt debian |
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| 03:07.10 | gnarface | dpkg: tell zydingxiaomei about mint |
| 03:07.16 | peterS | cantido: or blanket block IPs that have visited www.google.com. I bet you get almost 100% of trolls that way |
| 03:07.34 | gnarface | zydingxiaomei: read what the bot said to you |
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| 03:07.59 | cantido | peterS: channel would be pretty quiet as people start getting blocked after googling problems |
| 03:08.04 | zydingxiaomei | ;-) |
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| 03:08.34 | peterS | indeed. just saying, "block all 4chan posters" would work ... if you don't mind some collateral damage. the google approach is the same but slightly more extreme |
| 03:08.56 | cantido | yeah it was a joke ;~ |
| 03:08.59 | nsadmin | "yeah, maybe you should google it... and oh yeah, in case you can't get back..." |
| 03:09.15 | cantido | we would need a google gateway bot that cant be blocked |
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| 03:27.44 | Flynsarmy | hey guys. just set up a debian server. i'm trying ssh root@localhost and using the correct pw but getting 'Permission denied, please try again.'. any ideas? |
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| 03:28.26 | sheep | Flynsarmy: I think root ssh login is disabled by default |
| 03:28.29 | LtL | Flynsarmy: by default root login via shh is not permitted. |
| 03:28.45 | LtL | */shh/ssh |
| 03:28.54 | Flynsarmy | how can i enable it? |
| 03:29.08 | sheep | I would avoid enabling that |
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| 03:29.35 | cantido | Flynsarmy: install sudo |
| 03:29.37 | sheep | if you do enable it, then at least require public keys to authenticate |
| 03:29.52 | LtL | Flynsarmy: /etc/ssh/sshd_config i believe., and sheep is right. |
| 03:29.55 | sheep | sudo is a more secure way around root being block |
| 03:29.58 | sheep | +ed |
| 03:30.05 | Flynsarmy | it's an amazon ec2. i'm already ssh'd in using a .pem file, just can't seem to do it without the pem |
| 03:30.21 | cantido | you only need to use root a tiny fraction of the time you are logged in, so use sudo |
| 03:30.33 | cantido | using root when you dont need to results in shit getting broken |
| 03:31.22 | Flynsarmy | yea it's the standard advice given :) i'd still like to know how to get it working though. it was working on the us ec2 server i made however not on the asia one for some reason. didn't change any ssh config on them and they're both running squeeze so dont see why they're different |
| 03:31.52 | cantido | Flynsarmy: there is an option in the sshd config for allowing root logins |
| 03:32.01 | cantido | I actually thought it was turned on by default.. |
| 03:33.03 | LtL | Flynsarmy: /etc/ssh/sshd_config line #22 |
| 03:33.27 | Flynsarmy | aha figured it out guys. sshd_config was diff between teh two servers :) one has PermitRootLogin without-password and one has PermitRootLogin yes |
| 03:33.30 | LtL | cantido: default is permit root login = no |
| 03:33.31 | Flynsarmy | thanks for your help |
| 03:33.44 | LtL | unless i changed it :D |
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| 03:33.57 | cantido | pretty sure I've logged in as root to some new installs .. |
| 03:34.13 | cantido | I havent installed from scratch since lenny from what I can remember though |
| 03:34.59 | Mp5shooter | anyone here good with phpmyadmin? #phpmyadmin is dead |
| 03:35.15 | cantido | is upgrading 300 packages on the slowest machine in the world :( |
| 03:35.43 | Mp5shooter | cantido, you haven't seen slow until you've seen packages get upgraded on my flash drive install |
| 03:35.43 | Mp5shooter | hah |
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| 03:36.57 | arinov | where can i get debian 5.0.10? |
| 03:37.09 | dvs | !tell arinov about lenny |
| 03:37.26 | cantido | Mp5shooter: this machine is running with an CF card for root |
| 03:37.40 | Mp5shooter | oh |
| 03:37.40 | Mp5shooter | :p |
| 03:37.46 | nairb- | he left too quick..... |
| 03:37.56 | cantido | I have an ARM machine running from an SD card.. that aint so bad :) |
| 03:37.59 | nairb- | yeah on ec2 the default is to allow root login using a private key |
| 03:38.04 | Mp5shooter | haha |
| 03:38.15 | nairb- | he should be adding a user, installing sudo, and disablling root login |
| 03:39.00 | Mp5shooter | phpmyadmin - inserting rows into tables - is there a way to change how large the text boxes are? |
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| 03:42.43 | Mp5shooter | http://puu.sh/nPey |
| 03:42.48 | Mp5shooter | that is what I'm talking about |
| 03:43.11 | boudiccas | my system has had a kernel failure overnight, which isnt cleared by rebooting. its got very high loads on my cpu, up in the 27's. how do i clear it please? |
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| 03:44.50 | NiLon | boudiccas there's no universal button to fix your system, you must first identify problem before we can help you |
| 03:45.11 | dvs | presses the "easy" butto |
| 03:45.12 | boudiccas | ok, how do i identify the problem please? |
| 03:45.18 | cantido | boudiccas: if the kernel crashes that doesnt cause load that survives a reboot |
| 03:45.22 | boudiccas | give us a clue :) |
| 03:45.29 | cantido | boudiccas: top |
| 03:45.57 | boudiccas | i'm running top and cant see nayhting unexpected or outof the oridinary except for the high cpu loads |
| 03:46.31 | cantido | boudiccas: load average or cpu usage? |
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| 03:46.39 | LtL | Mp5shooter: you could try <TABLE WIDTH=%> [percentage of page] width, or use pixels, the rows will be wider unless they have specific values. |
| 03:46.51 | NiLon | I would suggest checking system logs for hints of failure |
| 03:46.56 | Mp5shooter | mm |
| 03:47.04 | Rusty1 | or htop, what process is using cpu ? |
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| 03:47.17 | boudiccas | cantido, load average |
| 03:47.46 | cantido | boudiccas: ok, so you have processes that are hogging the system somewhere |
| 03:48.02 | cantido | boudiccas: or creating lots of IO wait etc |
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| 03:48.43 | boudiccas | i'm just installing htop to see what they are |
| 03:49.11 | cantido | boudiccas: what does the cpu usage look like? |
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| 03:50.15 | boudiccas | load average 37.19 htop cpu usage 11.5 |
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| 03:51.07 | cantido | what is the breakdown of the cpu usage? is there ton of wait? |
| 03:51.58 | peterrooney | has built a special condo in hell for people who specify a specific pixel size in web pages. the contract didn't pay well. |
| 03:52.34 | cantido | peterrooney: whats wrong with using a fixed width? |
| 03:53.35 | peterrooney | cantido: tell me what the dimensions of my browser window are right now. |
| 03:53.53 | boudiccas | cantido, i cant see nayhting using wait, and it didnt reboot, just a log off and restart to log me back in again, so i'm going to shut down and then reboot and see what happens |
| 03:53.53 | cantido | peterrooney: doesnt matter, you float a fixed width in the middle of the window |
| 03:54.23 | cantido | boudiccas: how does a kernel failure log you out? |
| 03:54.44 | boudiccas | i tried to restart na dit just did a log off and log back in again |
| 03:54.49 | boudiccas | and it |
| 03:55.28 | cantido | boudiccas: how do you know a "kernel failure" happened? can you paste the output? |
| 03:55.59 | cantido | peterrooney: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/ -- knock yourself out |
| 03:56.33 | boudiccas | no, i cant paste it, i tried already. i have a black popup with whitew riting saying "your system had a kernel failure . and then stuff i cant read |
| 03:56.59 | cantido | boudiccas: type dmesg into a terminal |
| 04:00.06 | boudiccas | cantido, http://pastebin.com/LebjkTWn |
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| 04:01.49 | cantido | boudiccas: did you disconnect a usb flash drive just before the error thingy popped up? |
| 04:02.11 | boudiccas | no, it was already popped up when i disconnected the external usb drive |
| 04:02.31 | Rusty1 | cantido: anythin like http://960.gs/ ? |
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| 04:03.11 | cantido | ok, it seems there was a panic .. maybe you have some app grinding away thinking that fs is still connected/mounted |
| 04:03.55 | cantido | Rusty1: yeah, grids are everywhere though :) |
| 04:04.44 | boudiccas | cantido, its not showing in top or htop, but i do hav ersync running every three hours doing a backup, but its not running atm |
| 04:04.55 | boudiccas | have rysnc |
| 04:05.01 | cantido | boudiccas: reboot the machine, see if it goes away |
| 04:05.06 | boudiccas | k, thanks |
| 04:05.14 | cantido | I have been getting panics like that on linux 3.2 a lot |
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| 04:14.10 | boudiccas | cantido, i've rebooted and cleared the cpu average load, and the kernel panic occurred between 2100 last night and midnight, as the 2100 backup went as normal but the midnight backup didnt take place |
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| 04:16.20 | cantido | boudiccas: what kernel are you running? |
| 04:16.38 | boudiccas | stock debain 6.0.4 |
| 04:16.42 | boudiccas | debian |
| 04:17.01 | boudiccas | .versions kernel |
| 04:17.15 | boudiccas | ,versions kernel |
| 04:17.16 | judd | No package named 'kernel' was found in i386. |
| 04:17.21 | boudiccas | bollocks |
| 04:17.55 | cantido | boudiccas: uname -r |
| 04:18.16 | cantido | the package is linux-image anyhow |
| 04:18.29 | boudiccas | 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 04:19.32 | cantido | boudiccas: if it starts to happen a lot you might want to try one of the backport kernels and see if it makes it better |
| 04:20.08 | boudiccas | this is a fresh install done about 3 days ago, so i dont know what caused it, but thanks for your help :) |
| 04:20.49 | boudiccas | i'll bear the backport kernel in mind though |
| 04:20.57 | cantido | well, from the output it seems the panic happened when something USB got disconnected |
| 04:21.22 | boudiccas | there was a panic before then, something that happened yesterday |
| 04:21.22 | cantido | I'm getting that a lot when I plug unplug USB->Serial adapters.. but I'm running 3.2 |
| 04:21.48 | cantido | boudiccas: fire up dmesg when it happens next time and keep a note of it somewhere |
| 04:22.08 | cantido | if you're getting panics all over the place you could have bad hardware |
| 04:22.09 | boudiccas | unfortunately dmsg doesnt log times and dates so i dont know how far to look back in it |
| 04:22.30 | toxicsgz | Would anyone have the time to help a novice install debian 6, it would be much appreciated. |
| 04:22.33 | boudiccas | the hardware hasbeen running okay for over a year now, but that doesnt stop ram dyin gon me |
| 04:22.37 | cantido | mmm I thought the kernel in stable had timestamps.. |
| 04:22.39 | boudiccas | dying on |
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| 04:22.52 | brotatos | how do i set up FTP for my debian server? |
| 04:23.00 | boudiccas | there are no timestamps in dmesg that i understand |
| 04:23.38 | cantido | brotatos: use SCP if possible, if not apt-cache search ftpd |
| 04:23.46 | cantido | there are 3 or 4 major ftpds |
| 04:24.07 | brotatos | cantido: i'm setting it up for some window users who don't have scp |
| 04:24.14 | brotatos | cantido: are there scp clients for windows? |
| 04:24.19 | cantido | brotatos: winscp |
| 04:24.29 | brotatos | cantido: thanks |
| 04:24.48 | cantido | brotatos: a lot of "ftp" clients can talk sftp too.. which is basically the same thing a scp .. another service provided by openssh |
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| 04:30.20 | antiisolo | Ok, I have debian squeeze 3.2. First, if I close the lid to my laptop, or manually put it into suspend/hibranate mode the screen doesn't come back. I can see a mouse.. but nothing else.. and when i move the mouse around, i can tell its hovering over things, but nothing comes back.. and also, it doesnt play videos. I have vlc, gnome and when i play formats like .mov the screen blinks black real quick, and then the audio plays |
| 04:30.26 | antiisolo | any ideas? |
| 04:30.53 | antiisolo | and I dont have a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 |
| 04:31.11 | antiisolo | but Xorg is running when I type ps -a |
| 04:31.39 | sheep | you don't need an xorg.conf to run X |
| 04:31.49 | sheep | wait, nm |
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| 04:33.04 | cantido | welcome to the world of suspend on linux(tm) |
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| 04:35.22 | antiisolo | not sure what you mean cantido |
| 04:36.00 | cantido | suspend on linux sometimes just works, a sometimes just doesnt |
| 04:36.11 | antiisolo | ah ok |
| 04:36.11 | cantido | s/a/and/ |
| 04:36.31 | antiisolo | so nothing to really do? it just happens on some peoples laptops? |
| 04:36.43 | cantido | do some google'ing with the brand/model of your laptop and "suspend" see if anything comes up |
| 04:37.19 | antiisolo | ok, thanks |
| 04:37.59 | antiisolo | any idea on the graphics issue? Its failing to open files that use opengl, it failed streaming a .mov from a site, and even downloaded files have issues |
| 04:38.26 | cantido | antiisolo: after resuming? |
| 04:39.18 | antiisolo | nah, anytime |
| 04:39.20 | boudiccas | antiisolo, what do you mena by 'squeeze 3.2'? squeeze is currently 6.0.4 |
| 04:39.24 | boudiccas | mean |
| 04:39.32 | antiisolo | sorry, i meant kernal 3.2 |
| 04:39.39 | boudiccas | ah right |
| 04:39.45 | cantido | antiisolo: do you know which video hardware you're using? |
| 04:40.01 | antiisolo | geforce gt540m |
| 04:40.16 | cantido | antiisolo: are you using the nvidia drivers or the open source ones? |
| 04:41.14 | antiisolo | i think open source, I just used apt-get and apt-get backports to update and dl everything it needed |
| 04:41.25 | antiisolo | sorry, not 100% sure, still new to this |
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| 04:41.36 | cantido | try the nvidia drivers.. it might just fix everything |
| 04:41.54 | cantido | get the newer ones from backports |
| 04:41.56 | nevyn | sigh. |
| 04:42.05 | cantido | _ |
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| 04:42.10 | cantido | s/_/? |
| 04:42.22 | nevyn | hates binary blobs. |
| 04:42.31 | cantido | hates non-working video more |
| 04:42.34 | nevyn | but I might end up there myself on this T61p |
| 04:42.47 | nevyn | because nouveau keeps garbling fonts |
| 04:42.55 | nevyn | particularly in gmail. |
| 04:43.05 | antiisolo | ok thanks cantido, ill look into it |
| 04:43.28 | cantido | antiisolo: it might fix the suspend stuff to, you never know |
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| 04:44.23 | boudiccas | ,versions linux-image |
| 04:44.24 | judd | No package named 'linux-image' was found in i386. |
| 04:44.54 | cantido | boudiccas: linux-image-2.6 |
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| 04:46.01 | boudiccas | i'm trying to see what each version of debian is running as their stock kernel, are they all running the 2.6 branch? |
| 04:46.12 | cantido | nevyn: do the free drivers handle va-api yet? |
| 04:46.20 | boudiccas | ,versions linux-image-2.6 |
| 04:46.21 | judd | No package named 'linux-image-2.6' was found in i386. |
| 04:46.34 | boudiccas | igive up |
| 04:46.40 | cantido | ,versions linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 04:46.42 | judd | Package: linux-image-2.6-amd64 on i386 -- lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.32+27~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+44~bpo60+1; sid: 3.2+44; wheezy: 3.2+44 |
| 04:46.57 | nevyn | cantido: umm isn't va-api the proprietary version of xv? |
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| 04:47.27 | cantido | nevyn: its full hardware decoding.. i.e. the video app passes h264 frames to the hardware and they come back decompressed |
| 04:47.58 | cantido | not sure about how the images get blitted to the screen.. but its good stuff either way |
| 04:49.29 | nevyn | cantido: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/VideoDecoding |
| 04:49.34 | nevyn | seems like work is being done |
| 04:49.39 | nevyn | even if it's not yet primetime |
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| 04:50.38 | cantido | yeah better than nothing, seems h264 is mostly supported.. and thats the main one |
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| 05:12.17 | smhar | how to restart the dhcp server? I do not seem to have /etc/init.d/dhcp-server |
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| 05:17.04 | Kaskoo | If you use bind the one you search is /etc/init.d/bind9 |
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| 05:23.04 | mah454 | what is default samba security level in debian ? |
| 05:23.10 | mah454 | debian stable |
| 05:23.36 | Kaskoo | sorry i didn't read it right, try this /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server |
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| 05:36.38 | fragrant | Wwhich packages contain ifconfig and route command? Which would i install to get those command? |
| 05:37.39 | peterrooney | fragrant: aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update ; apt-file search ifconfig ; apt-file search <whatever> |
| 05:37.57 | nevyn | dpkg -S /sbin/ifconfig |
| 05:37.57 | dpkg | You Fool! /sbin/ifconfig is installed! |
| 05:38.06 | peterrooney | fragrant: then you can answer this question about _any_file |
| 05:38.22 | nevyn | prefers dpkg -S for things that are installed already |
| 05:38.32 | nevyn | fragrant: but why are you using that legacy stuff. |
| 05:38.43 | nevyn | it's all about ip these days (ip2 actually but nevermind) |
| 05:39.03 | peterrooney | nevyn: true, but apt-file includes packages not currently installed |
| 05:39.41 | peterrooney | is usually willing to wait for better answers |
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| 05:40.09 | fragrant | What's the command to remove orphan packages from debian? |
| 05:40.18 | nevyn | deborphan |
| 05:41.34 | peterrooney | fragrant: apt-get --recon autoremove # because sometimes, you actually want to keep them! |
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| 05:44.48 | cassavuota | hi all |
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| 05:46.07 | terron | Is it possible to use XFCE's compositing abilities (particularly the transparency option for panels) when connecting via a vnc (tightvncserver/client)? |
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| 05:46.59 | cantido | terron: I dont think the vnc xserver has the extensions needed to do anything nice like that |
| 05:47.06 | cassavuota | how would i use the find command to search for files in /var except for /var/cache for example? is it possible one single command? |
| 05:48.17 | terron | ah, ok. thanks cantido |
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| 05:51.30 | grothendieck | cassavuota: use a regex |
| 05:52.20 | nevyn | will that stop find decending into the cache subdir |
| 05:52.29 | nevyn | or just filter the result. |
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| 05:52.52 | grothendieck | touche |
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| 05:54.37 | grothendieck | I think the -prune flag will stop it from descending |
| 05:54.43 | grothendieck | I think the -regex flag just filters |
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| 05:56.02 | grothendieck | http://www.gnu.org/software/findutils/manual/html_mono/find.html#Overview if anybody cares to actually find out |
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| 05:57.50 | mzrc | hi to you all |
| 05:58.31 | mzrc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:59.38 | simonlnu | "leased line set up tutorial howto" google it |
| 05:59.41 | grothendieck | nevyn: "find . -wholename './src/emacs' -prune -o -print" this skips ./src/emacs and all files under it |
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| 06:00.21 | nsadmin | mzrc, what kind of leased line? is there a csu/dsu on your side? |
| 06:00.40 | simonlnu | -prune is exclusion, not maxdepth |
| 06:00.43 | nsadmin | what's on the other side? is it an internet connection? |
| 06:01.00 | nevyn | cassavuota: there you go ^^ |
| 06:01.08 | mzrc | between to computer using a seril connexion |
| 06:01.14 | mzrc | *serial |
| 06:01.17 | simonlnu | man find; eh |
| 06:01.39 | nevyn | was looking for exclude in the manpage and -prune didn't show up. |
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| 06:02.38 | nsadmin | mzrc, so, there is a serial cable at your side? |
| 06:02.48 | mzrc | yes |
| 06:03.10 | nsadmin | and this line is NOT an internet connection? |
| 06:04.35 | nsadmin | quicker. I have places to be. |
| 06:05.06 | mzrc | no |
| 06:05.26 | cassavuota | grothendieck: not bad |
| 06:05.34 | mzrc | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.36 | nsadmin | ok, so the two computers have to be sending at the same rate |
| 06:05.43 | mzrc | yes |
| 06:05.55 | nsadmin | ever used setserial? |
| 06:06.02 | mzrc | not yet |
| 06:06.44 | nsadmin | so you have some learning to do, and you also need people on both sides with a phone |
| 06:07.30 | mzrc | the physicals links are done |
| 06:07.37 | nsadmin | then you can get at least a physical connection going |
| 06:08.04 | nsadmin | so you can already send/receive on the line? |
| 06:08.13 | mzrc | yes |
| 06:08.27 | nsadmin | then I don't understand what you're asking since you're done |
| 06:09.00 | nsadmin | how fast is the line? |
| 06:09.11 | mzrc | i want to set up line in a lan between too particular computers |
| 06:09.35 | nsadmin | in the same room? |
| 06:09.41 | mzrc | yes |
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| 06:09.58 | nsadmin | why do you need a leased line for that? how far are they apart? |
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| 06:10.24 | mzrc | in a same adminroom |
| 06:10.52 | nsadmin | btw, if the link is working (you can run minicom on both sides and each tyoe to the other)... |
| 06:11.03 | nsadmin | (that much is a yes? |
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| 06:12.05 | mzrc | yes |
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| 06:12.55 | nsadmin | ok, good.) |
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| 06:13.11 | nsadmin | you should be able to run pppd on each side |
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| 06:13.26 | nsadmin | if you want an -IP- connection |
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| 06:13.54 | nsadmin | how far apart are these two machines (in, say, feet) |
| 06:13.59 | nsadmin | ? |
| 06:14.19 | mzrc | 20 feet |
| 06:14.41 | mzrc | arround |
| 06:15.07 | nsadmin | ok, just mentioning you don't need a leased line (leased line means a line you rent from the phone company) |
| 06:15.27 | mzrc | ok |
| 06:15.58 | mzrc | what is pppd used for .? |
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| 06:16.25 | nsadmin | pppd is used to have a point-to-point internet connection |
| 06:17.19 | mzrc | it can also be used in a lan right? |
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| 06:18.58 | mzrc | it can also be used in a lan right? |
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| 06:19.39 | nsadmin | I'm not sure what you mean "used in a lan" and I'm not quite understanding why not use ethernet or wireless |
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| 06:20.25 | mzrc | because i've been to setup a ppp con |
| 06:20.33 | nsadmin | if the computer on the distant end doesn't have any of that and only has serial, you can do this... it will be SLOW |
| 06:20.35 | mzrc | because i've been asked to setup a ppp con |
| 06:20.46 | nsadmin | ok |
| 06:20.56 | nsadmin | that's as good a reason as any |
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| 06:21.33 | nsadmin | what operating system are the two computers using? |
| 06:21.55 | mzrc | debian |
| 06:22.11 | mzrc | debian squeeze |
| 06:22.12 | cantido | nsadmin: if you only have serial, why would you use ppp and not slip? |
| 06:22.28 | nsadmin | ppp is probably easier to set up |
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| 06:22.48 | nsadmin | aside from which... |
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| 06:22.54 | cantido | slattach blah ifconfig sl0 blah .. done |
| 06:23.26 | nsadmin | "<mzrc> because i've been asked to setup a ppp con" |
| 06:23.37 | mzrc | a how to on how to set up pp is wht i'm looking for |
| 06:23.56 | cantido | mzrc: what is the connection running over? dial up? |
| 06:24.04 | nsadmin | maybe the serial-howto |
| 06:24.11 | nsadmin | also man pppd |
| 06:25.37 | nsadmin | cantido, he originally said "a leased line" but the two computers are 20 feet apart... so I suggested he might not need a leased line |
| 06:25.54 | nsadmin | possibly he has an rs232 cable |
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| 06:26.01 | cantido | or some NICs |
| 06:26.09 | cantido | ip over serial.. fook that |
| 06:26.16 | nsadmin | that would be a much much faster connection... |
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| 06:26.42 | mzrc | nsadmin i have a rs232 link established |
| 06:26.48 | cantido | ip over bluetooth works too |
| 06:27.06 | cantido | mzrc: if the machines are right next to each other dont bother with PPP, use SLIP |
| 06:27.24 | nsadmin | mzrc: with a "null serial cable" between the computers? |
| 06:28.10 | mzrc | what does null serial cable means please!! |
| 06:28.16 | nsadmin | cantido, I'm guessing here, but I'm thinking he's being asked to learn how to set up a ppp connection |
| 06:28.28 | cantido | oh, a school project? |
| 06:28.30 | nsadmin | it's a serial cable with wires reversed.... |
| 06:28.43 | mzrc | nsadmin u're right |
| 06:28.52 | nsadmin | cantido, or an admin job where he's being trained |
| 06:28.55 | nevyn | nsadmin: don't go against the flow man. |
| 06:29.01 | lkslawek | is it possible to set apt policy in a way that will always prioritise packages from the older releases and yet allow apt-get to satisfy dependencies with packages from the releases with lower priority when it is asked to get certain package from specific (newer) release explicitly? |
| 06:29.11 | cantido | a null modem has RX on one end connected to TX and TX on connected to RX.. nothing amazing |
| 06:29.17 | nsadmin | nevyn, we need flow control?! |
| 06:29.32 | mzrc | yes |
| 06:29.35 | nevyn | no no copper cares which way signals go down it honest... |
| 06:29.37 | cantido | nsadmin: who the hell uses RS232 for anything these days... |
| 06:29.45 | nevyn | see DL-AK1 cable for an example |
| 06:30.11 | nsadmin | hmm, sounds like a diode |
| 06:30.21 | cantido | nevyn: the UART does care.. |
| 06:30.36 | nevyn | http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/dp/B000I1X6PM |
| 06:30.44 | nsadmin | but wait, he says the cable is connected and working |
| 06:30.49 | nevyn | nevermind. |
| 06:31.20 | mzrc | yes connection is done |
| 06:31.35 | cantido | buys mzrc a new space bar |
| 06:31.52 | mzrc | sorry |
| 06:32.25 | nsadmin | that's for new spaces |
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| 06:33.21 | cantido | mzrc: why do you need to setup PPP over serial in this day and age? school project? |
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| 06:33.53 | mzrc | so please where can i find a course or something else explaining how to do it |
| 06:34.14 | mzrc | cantido : yes a school project |
| 06:34.39 | nevyn | mzrc: can you type things on one end and see them at the other? |
| 06:34.40 | cantido | mzrc: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/ -- something like that? |
| 06:35.02 | cantido | mzrc: get minicom running on both ends and make sure that the link works first |
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| 06:35.21 | cantido | mzrc: send a file or two via xmodem to see that it isnt all over the place |
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| 06:35.26 | mzrc | minicom?? |
| 06:35.33 | nevyn | forget minicom. |
| 06:35.39 | cantido | mzrc: its your number one serial port friend |
| 06:35.43 | nevyn | on host B cat /dev/ttyS1 |
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| 06:35.52 | nevyn | on host A cat > /dev/ttyS1 |
| 06:36.02 | nevyn | type stuff.. check it appears on host B |
| 06:36.04 | cantido | nevyn: thats if the baud rates etc are the same |
| 06:36.11 | cantido | which they might not be |
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| 06:38.16 | nsadmin | we're proving again that his link is up? ok... |
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| 06:38.24 | mzrc | which of these ones ttyS0 ttyS1 ttyS2 ttyS3 |
| 06:38.46 | cantido | mzrc: is it a real serial port or a USB one? |
| 06:39.09 | cantido | nsadmin: if he doesnt now the dev node, I guess he hasnt tested it ;) |
| 06:39.09 | mzrc | serial |
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| 06:39.27 | nsadmin | that could be. |
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| 06:39.53 | nsadmin | mzrc, starting with one of the hosts, do this as root: |
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| 06:40.02 | nsadmin | cat /dev/ttyS0 |
| 06:40.08 | nsadmin | what happens? |
| 06:40.33 | mzrc | error |
| 06:40.40 | nsadmin | no such device? |
| 06:40.52 | mzrc | yes |
| 06:40.54 | nsadmin | which error? |
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| 06:40.59 | nsadmin | ohok |
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| 06:41.09 | nsadmin | cat /dev/ttyS1 |
| 06:41.16 | nsadmin | what happens? |
| 06:41.20 | mzrc | i/O error |
| 06:41.30 | nsadmin | not the same error? |
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| 06:41.59 | mzrc | tha same |
| 06:42.02 | mzrc | the same |
| 06:42.06 | nsadmin | ok |
| 06:42.12 | nsadmin | cat /dev/ttyS2 |
| 06:42.15 | nsadmin | what happens? |
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| 06:42.38 | mzrc | same rror |
| 06:42.52 | nsadmin | cat /dev/ttyS3 |
| 06:42.56 | nsadmin | what happens? |
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| 06:43.32 | mzrc | sorry but i have the same error |
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| 06:43.50 | cantido | serial ports are turned off in the bios settings maybe? |
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| 06:44.32 | mzrc | cantido |
| 06:44.39 | nevyn | mzrc: so you have a 9 pin serial cable plugged into the system? |
| 06:44.40 | mzrc | normally no |
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| 06:44.55 | mzrc | one |
| 06:45.01 | nevyn | one? |
| 06:45.48 | nsadmin | if this is a school assignment, you must have a handout describing what you are to do? |
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| 06:46.54 | mzrc | i'm lost |
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| 06:47.13 | mzrc | nsadmin i don't have |
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| 06:47.31 | mzrc | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:47.57 | cantido | mzrc: #debian doesn't have all the paperwork for your course .. ;p |
| 06:48.51 | mzrc | ok |
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| 06:49.24 | cantido | if you boot the machine and run dmesg there should be some lines about the UARTs anyhow |
| 06:49.30 | cantido | even if the machine isnt a PC |
| 06:50.21 | nsadmin | this class, it's a classroom situation? |
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| 06:51.19 | ws2k3 | hello people. i'm searching why i cant send any mails from php |
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| 06:51.53 | cantido | ws2k3: do you get errors in php? |
| 06:52.08 | cantido | ws2k3: and if its using the local host.. check the mail logs |
| 06:52.11 | mzrc | nsadmin yes |
| 06:52.25 | cantido | mzrc: ask your teacher for help? |
| 06:52.26 | ws2k3 | cantido no i dont get any error in mail |
| 06:52.32 | ws2k3 | i usee nullmailer |
| 06:52.39 | ws2k3 | with a remote smtp server |
| 06:52.41 | cantido | ws2k3: does the mail get queued at all? |
| 06:52.59 | nsadmin | ok, how exactly does the teacher give you assignments? |
| 06:53.01 | cantido | ws2k3: even nullmailer should log something :) |
| 06:53.25 | ws2k3 | when i use sendmail fromt he os it get logged |
| 06:53.29 | ws2k3 | and then i get the mail |
| 06:53.37 | ws2k3 | but from php it does nothing no logs nothing |
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| 06:57.45 | cantido | ws2k3: and no errors either.. annoying |
| 06:57.55 | cantido | errors in php |
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| 06:58.08 | ws2k3 | i need to look in error.php right ? |
| 06:58.12 | ws2k3 | in var/log/apache2 ? |
| 06:58.20 | cantido | ws2k3: error.log I think |
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| 07:14.55 | Mohsen_Hassani | How can I upgrade/update a espeak and its dependencies. I'm currently using Squeeze on my VPS, but I'd like to use the espeak which is available on Wheezy |
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| 07:18.36 | samantha-r-- | Mohsen_Hassani, try backports first |
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| 07:34.19 | hid3 | Hello everyone. Anyone know software to manage a smart (ORVALDI) UPS in Debian? |
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| 07:35.31 | Mohsen_Hassani | samantha-r--, Using this page http://backports-master.debian.org/Packages/ I noticed that backport does not have espeak package. |
| 07:35.32 | pfalcone | hid3: doesn't nut do the job? |
| 07:35.50 | Mohsen_Hassani | samantha-r--, Is there any way to update my squeeze espeak to wheezy espeak? |
| 07:37.40 | somiaj | !tell Mohsen_Hassani -about squeeze-backports |
| 07:37.45 | somiaj | !tell Mohsen_Hassani -about ssbp |
| 07:37.57 | somiaj | Mohsen_Hassani: if there isn't already a backport, you may have to make your own |
| 07:38.18 | samantha-r-- | Mohsen_Hassani, you might try pinning. i've never done it tho. also, your dependencies may get screwed up and it might break your system. not recommended, you're as completely and thoroughly on your own as you can possibly be. if it breaks, you own all six parts. |
| 07:38.22 | hid3 | pfalcone: I can't find Orvaldi supported at all by NUT at their site... :( |
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| 07:38.49 | somiaj | samantha-r--: you don't really want to do that, beause of the core libaries and the likes |
| 07:38.59 | somiaj | samantha-r--: dependencies that would get pulled in. look into backports |
| 07:39.18 | somiaj | ,check-backport speak |
| 07:39.19 | judd | No package named 'speak' was found in sid/i386. |
| 07:39.21 | samantha-r-- | somiaj, as i said, not recommended, might jack your system. :) |
| 07:39.28 | somiaj | ,check-backport espeak |
| 07:39.39 | judd | Backporting package espeak in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libsonic-dev. |
| 07:40.04 | somiaj | Mohsen_Hassani: looks lke it won't be an easy backport, you may have to backport some libaries first which means it won't be easy |
| 07:40.17 | mjt | just one :) |
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| 07:40.41 | Mohsen_Hassani | somiaj, thanks! |
| 07:40.44 | somiaj | mjt: well to start with, maybe libsonic needs more, (: |
| 07:40.44 | lkslawek | so if we are on pinning, this is this question of mine, about getting package and its dependencies automatically from release with lower priority - is it possible at all? |
| 07:40.46 | pfalcone | hid3: from what I recall, Debian should already include orvaldi UP support (http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/nut-upsdev/2011-July/005543.html) |
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| 07:40.58 | hid3 | Thanks! |
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| 07:45.20 | hp | I can access samba via netbios name, but not via IP address. |
| 07:45.27 | hp | what might be causing the problem? |
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| 07:45.37 | nsadmin | why is that a problem? |
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| 07:46.09 | hp | nsadmin, \\192.168.1.100 won't work |
| 07:46.18 | hp | but \\MyLenny works |
| 07:46.29 | nsadmin | you say, in part, "I can access" |
| 07:46.38 | nsadmin | why not use the netbios name? |
| 07:46.41 | samantha-r-- | yes, but ... why is that problem? |
| 07:47.20 | hp | samantha-r--, I want to make samba accessible via \\192.168.1.100 |
| 07:47.32 | samantha-r-- | i gathered that. why? |
| 07:47.33 | hp | it used to work. |
| 07:47.43 | nsadmin | aha, what changed? |
| 07:47.55 | samantha-r-- | windows service pack probably :) |
| 07:48.36 | nsadmin | would having a wins server on the same machine running samba make a difference? |
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| 07:51.34 | nsadmin | samantha-r--, what could have happened when the service pack is changed? |
| 07:52.03 | techman2 | Updates will be installed automatically according to |
| 07:52.13 | techman2 | nm |
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| 07:52.58 | nsadmin | if that's debian, you might consider turning that off and review packages about to be installed |
| 07:53.10 | foo357 | Hello |
| 07:53.38 | foo357 | I've got a computer running 64 bit, I want to install a particular package that only comes for the 32 bit arch |
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| 07:53.57 | shifty | is there a way I can modify another running process' environment - specifically its $DISPLAY? |
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| 07:54.04 | foo357 | this 32 bit package needs for example libstdc++6... so I suppose I need to have parallel installations of all the necessary packages |
| 07:54.05 | Eninem | only 64 bit |
| 07:54.41 | nsadmin | shifty, no, process can only set its own vars |
| 07:54.41 | sephii | shifty: try DISPLAY="..." yourcommand |
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| 07:54.45 | jomofcw | Hello ! |
| 07:55.04 | jomofcw | Using debian system, how can I easily find a file path ? |
| 07:55.11 | foo357 | how do I setup separate package installations, so I have both the 32 and 64 bit versions installed? |
| 07:55.16 | samantha-r-- | is it possible/wise to chain two ssh tunnels? i.e., home => tunnel to intermediary shell => tunnel to target? |
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| 07:55.31 | shifty | sephii: process is already running, so this isn't possible :-( |
| 07:55.44 | samantha-r-- | jomofcw: find . -name <filename> |
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| 07:56.10 | nsadmin | oh, you mean you want to start a program that has DISPLAY set |
| 07:56.10 | samantha-r-- | jomofcw: if the file is executable and in the path, you can figure out which will run by 'which <program>' |
| 07:56.10 | jomofcw | Thanks samantha-r-- ^^. |
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| 07:56.41 | shifty | the environment is visible in /proc/<proc-id>/environ, i wonder if modifying that has any effect |
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| 07:57.35 | Charlest | What package do I need to use in order to compile c programs? |
| 07:57.49 | nsadmin | Charlest gcc for one |
| 07:57.57 | Charlest | THank you |
| 07:58.03 | nsadmin | and, you need a fairly complete set of tools |
| 07:58.13 | nsadmin | for this, you want build-essential |
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| 07:58.23 | Charlest | Thank you |
| 07:58.45 | scientes | apt-get install build-essential |
| 07:59.00 | shifty | nsadmin: i've started mutt in a GNU screen at my computer and detach. then I ssh in and attach to the running screen. now I want to view an attachment. $DISPLAY is set to :0.0 (from when I started screen), but it needs to be (eg) 10.0 to have the image appear where I'm sitting. |
| 07:59.18 | scientes | and then ./autogen.sh; ./configure; make; and then either make install, or !checkinstall make install |
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| 07:59.22 | scientes | !checkinstall |
| 07:59.22 | dpkg | CheckInstall is a program that tracks all files installed by "make install" (or equivalent), creates a Debian (or other) package with those files, and adds it to the installed packages database, allowing for easy package removal or distribution. http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ See also <stow>. |
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| 07:59.37 | scientes | Charlest, |
| 07:59.41 | shifty | nsadmin: (of course I can make it do what I want, was hoping for an automatic solution) |
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| 07:59.53 | samantha-r-- | shifty: not easy. screen will preserve your $DISPLAY setting. possible to exit and restart mutt? |
| 07:59.55 | nsadmin | the thing is, sometimes you want to compile programs to use libc, so you want its dev part, and you can install that by itself, or, it will come in from build-essential |
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| 08:00.59 | ws2k3 | hello guys. i'm trying to let php send out any mail |
| 08:01.05 | nsadmin | mention has been made of ./configure, but I have the feeling you are composing your own programs. is that true? |
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| 08:01.09 | samantha-r-- | ws2k3: define "any." |
| 08:01.25 | shifty | samantha-r--: not easy - exactly. restart?!? I've have to turn in my geek card! |
| 08:01.32 | ws2k3 | so i installed nullmailer when i do echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com it does send the mail but when i let php it doesnt work |
| 08:01.46 | ws2k3 | when i let php send the mail i dont get anything in the mail.log or in the syslog |
| 08:02.04 | samantha-r-- | ws2k3: are you wanting to send to a specific address? or are you letting the user enter the address to send to? |
| 08:02.17 | nsadmin | ws2k3, what about the web error log |
| 08:02.54 | ws2k3 | in the error.log i dont get anything |
| 08:03.02 | nsadmin | Charlest, you writing the programs you want to compile? |
| 08:03.03 | ws2k3 | i let the user fill in a email adres |
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| 08:03.31 | ws2k3 | but that now the problem with a command i can send a mail to any addres that works fine |
| 08:03.38 | ws2k3 | only php never reaches nullmailer |
| 08:03.45 | nsadmin | ws2k3, are you writing the php where it's mailing something? |
| 08:03.58 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 08:04.09 | samantha-r-- | ws2k3: stop that immediately. you're writing a spam-making engine. when you burn in hell for putting such a thing on the internet, satan will send demons to torture you with viagra pills and penis enlargement pumps attached to ... unnatural parts of your anatomy. |
| 08:04.10 | ws2k3 | and i'm sure the php code is because the exacly same code did work before |
| 08:04.27 | ws2k3 | i only did a reinstall of the debian machine |
| 08:04.44 | ws2k3 | samantha lol... i let users recieve a email so they can activate there account thats all.... |
| 08:04.56 | nsadmin | ok, can you put in the php something that will log "about to mail" right before the code that sends |
| 08:05.19 | nsadmin | and then see if that appears in the error log? (if not, does it appear in a different log) |
| 08:05.54 | ws2k3 | when i do in php <? |
| 08:05.54 | ws2k3 | var_dump(`echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com`); |
| 08:05.54 | ws2k3 | ?> |
| 08:06.00 | ws2k3 | it echo's NULL in my browser |
| 08:06.01 | nsadmin | samantha-r--, I like demons! as long as they live in my computer and do stuff I like... |
| 08:07.13 | nsadmin | ws2k3, I almost learned php... err, I threatened everyone I was going to learn php... |
| 08:07.32 | ws2k3 | like i sad i think the problem is not in php |
| 08:07.33 | nsadmin | the thing is I know a coupla other languages and gained some general experience there |
| 08:07.41 | ws2k3 | because the exaclt same code did work before |
| 08:07.50 | ws2k3 | i only dida reinstall of the machine |
| 08:07.53 | jomofcw | Another stupid question : how to "get out" from a man display ? |
| 08:08.02 | ws2k3 | ctrl + x |
| 08:08.19 | jomofcw | Already done |
| 08:08.22 | jomofcw | no result :/ |
| 08:08.29 | somiaj | jomofcw: 'q' |
| 08:08.29 | jomofcw | So I wasn't so stupid xD. |
| 08:08.30 | nsadmin | well then you need to compare what's up "now" (during which it doesn't work) and "before" (when it did work) |
| 08:08.31 | ansgar | jomofcw: man less ;) It's usually q |
| 08:08.34 | jomofcw | I shall miss something |
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| 08:08.43 | ws2k3 | when i run : echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com by hand it works |
| 08:08.50 | ws2k3 | but when i let php execute that command it doesnt |
| 08:09.03 | jomofcw | ctrl+q doesn't work anymore |
| 08:09.12 | jomofcw | q works ^^ |
| 08:09.19 | jomofcw | thanks somiaj |
| 08:09.21 | somiaj | I don't ever recall it being ctrl-q |
| 08:09.36 | somiaj | though ctrl-q is useful if you decided to scroll lock your console |
| 08:09.42 | ansgar | ws2k3: Why do you try to run that? I believe php has a function to send mail already built in. |
| 08:09.43 | somiaj | with ctrl-s |
| 08:09.57 | nsadmin | that's xoff and xon, right? |
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| 08:11.14 | ws2k3 | ansger i do use the function of php |
| 08:11.29 | ws2k3 | i do this to send the mail : mail($email, $subject, $message, $headers); |
| 08:11.34 | ws2k3 | in php |
| 08:11.50 | nsadmin | and that works? or not? worked before? |
| 08:12.01 | ws2k3 | worked before |
| 08:12.06 | ws2k3 | worked with nullmailer |
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| 08:12.11 | ws2k3 | only now it dont |
| 08:12.41 | nsadmin | are you also playing with the cli php? |
| 08:12.47 | ws2k3 | no |
| 08:13.01 | nsadmin | it might be worth a shot |
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| 08:13.12 | ws2k3 | i also dont get any error in /var/log/apache2/error.log |
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| 08:13.37 | nsadmin | php5-cli - command-line interpreter for the php5 scripting language |
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| 08:15.57 | nsadmin | using this, maybe you can test very short php expressions and see the interpreter's response immediately, especially if there is an error |
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| 08:16.29 | ws2k3 | when i run : var_dump(`mail(ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com, test, test); `); |
| 08:16.34 | ws2k3 | it still echo's NULL |
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| 08:17.09 | Woet | ws2k3: how about some quotes? |
| 08:17.20 | Woet | mail("to@where", "test", "test") |
| 08:17.29 | Woet | this is not a debian question either, go to ##php |
| 08:18.22 | vdonnef | hi, what is the difference betwenn dh_make & cdbs? |
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| 08:19.04 | ws2k3 | woet i know my php code is fine |
| 08:19.12 | Woet | ws2k3: no, it's not |
| 08:19.20 | ws2k3 | maby the sample i provided no |
| 08:19.38 | nsadmin | dh_make looks at a project and tries to make a debian/ dir (and its rules and control file at least) which you MUST edit to get everything to work the way it's supposed to |
| 08:19.49 | ws2k3 | mail($email, $subject, $message, $headers); |
| 08:19.49 | Woet | ws2k3: then provide a proper example and go to ##php, as I mentioned. |
| 08:19.53 | ws2k3 | that how i send the mail |
| 08:20.00 | ws2k3 | i already been in #php |
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| 08:20.01 | Woet | ws2k3: go to ##php |
| 08:20.07 | ws2k3 | they noticed that the php code is fine |
| 08:20.17 | ws2k3 | so it most be something in my os |
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| 08:20.40 | Woet | ws2k3: and you have installed sendmail/exim I assume? |
| 08:20.56 | Woet | or any other mail daemon which takes care of the emails for you |
| 08:21.09 | ws2k3 | woet i have installed nullmailer. |
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| 08:21.33 | ws2k3 | and like i sad when i run : echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com |
| 08:21.34 | Woet | ws2k3: and what do its logs say? did you change the sendmail_path in the php.ini accordingly? did you try that command by hand? |
| 08:21.36 | ws2k3 | the mail arrives |
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| 08:22.01 | ws2k3 | when i use php to send the mail i dont get anything in the logs |
| 08:22.09 | ws2k3 | not in syslog not in mail.log and not in error.log |
| 08:22.24 | Woet | ws2k3: did you do a var_dump of $email, $subject, $message and $headers yet? what are it's outputs? |
| 08:22.24 | ws2k3 | well i dont know if i need to change the sendmail_path |
| 08:22.39 | nairb- | anyone know how to make logrotate keep log files forever ? |
| 08:23.00 | Woet | nairb-: set "rotate" to a very high value |
| 08:23.06 | nairb- | :-/ |
| 08:23.21 | nsadmin | has the sendmail path changed? |
| 08:23.30 | nairb- | is there seriously no way to have it be "forever" ? |
| 08:23.36 | Woet | nairb-: that's what I did, I set it to 1 thousand years (365000) |
| 08:23.46 | Woet | nairb-: according to the things I read, nope. |
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| 08:23.54 | ws2k3 | the sendmail path is just usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 08:24.21 | nairb- | that's still kinda ugly though... i don't want to set it to a thousand years.... |
| 08:24.50 | nairb- | i don't want it to check the age at all, what if i fuck up my system clock someday or something |
| 08:24.53 | Woet | nairb-: okay, then don't. good luck. |
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| 08:25.25 | nsadmin | ws2k3, and that file exists? |
| 08:26.01 | nairb- | is there an alternative to logrotate that doesn't suck? |
| 08:26.14 | ws2k3 | http://pastebin.com/ETE8BVX1 |
| 08:26.15 | nsadmin | the one you pick or write |
| 08:26.16 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 08:26.42 | ws2k3 | the link is a screen of my php.ini |
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| 08:27.09 | Woet | ws2k3: still waiting for the var_dump |
| 08:27.17 | nsadmin | ok, wonder if you'd be willing to install libapp-nopaste-perl |
| 08:27.33 | nsadmin | which is like pastebinit that doesn't use pastebin.com |
| 08:27.58 | nsadmin | after that you'd pipe into nopaste which will return a uro |
| 08:28.00 | nsadmin | url |
| 08:29.04 | colo-work | and finally, peace of mind: |
| 08:29.05 | colo-work | # cat /etc/rsyslog.d/zz-local.conf |
| 08:29.05 | colo-work | :msg, regex, ".*sending ioctl [0-9][0-9]* to a partition.*" ~ |
| 08:29.05 | colo-work | :msg, regex, ".*scsi_verify_blk_ioctl: [0-9][0-9]* callbacks suppressed.*" ~ |
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| 08:29.15 | colo-work | weeeee! |
| 08:29.41 | ws2k3 | wout i have enabled mail loggin in php.ini |
| 08:29.58 | ws2k3 | this is what i see in my mail.log mail() on [/var/www/fgh/account/forgotpwsendmail.php:51]: To: ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com -- Headers: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 To: ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com From: FreeGameHosting <info@freegamehosting.nl> |
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| 08:30.21 | ws2k3 | u still want a dump of that vars ? |
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| 08:32.22 | nsadmin | if you use nopaste I'll look at it... I'm not guaranteeing I'll understand it completely |
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| 08:33.06 | ws2k3 | woet that was my in my mail.log |
| 08:33.59 | nsadmin | this is the page for when they forget their password? |
| 08:35.10 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 08:35.26 | ws2k3 | they can fill in there email adres and then a mail will be sended |
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| 08:35.49 | nsadmin | hmm. are there other pages that send mail? |
| 08:36.27 | ws2k3 | yeah register.php |
| 08:36.31 | ws2k3 | when u make a new account |
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| 08:38.17 | nsadmin | ok, can you test that page to see if it sends the mail? |
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| 08:38.59 | ws2k3 | i tested both pages already |
| 08:39.01 | ws2k3 | same story |
| 08:39.12 | nsadmin | ok |
| 08:39.19 | ws2k3 | but like i sad i configuraed php.ini that it loggs all mail requests. to a special log file |
| 08:39.48 | ws2k3 | in that logfile i have this : http://pastebin.com/8Bs7a80t |
| 08:40.15 | nsadmin | as part of this, you have to think back about either what you did to change the system or just what changed in the system whether you did something or not |
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| 08:40.32 | nsadmin | (pastebin.com crashes my browser every time) |
| 08:41.20 | ws2k3 | lol |
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| 08:41.57 | ws2k3 | http://nopaste.info/ba8379498c.html |
| 08:42.08 | nsadmin | and, pastebinit seems to have something wrong with it... it says you can use gist.github.com but when you do it says you can't, so go file a bug... |
| 08:43.17 | nsadmin | that part didn't work every time I tried it, and the guy who maintains it keeps saying he won't fix problems for/in debian |
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| 08:44.05 | ws2k3 | can u read my nopaste? |
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| 08:45.32 | boudiccas | !u |
| 08:45.32 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 08:45.38 | nsadmin | it appears to have tried... I didn't see an error |
| 08:45.57 | nsadmin | boudiccas: K!! |
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| 08:48.01 | ws2k3 | nsadmin means that php succesfully recieve a request for an email |
| 08:48.22 | ws2k3 | it looks like debian doesnt use nullmailer by default |
| 08:48.57 | simonlnu | no it doesn't. uses exim by default |
| 08:49.10 | ws2k3 | because when i run apt-get install sendmail (it removes nullmailer) then i Do get a nice error in my syslog and mail.log |
| 08:49.31 | nsadmin | it would seem that php would complain if /usr/sbin/sendmail (or other mail path) didn't exist... and... does that file exist? |
| 08:49.42 | ws2k3 | yeah it does |
| 08:50.36 | ws2k3 | root@localhost:/# /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 08:50.36 | ws2k3 | No recipients were listed. |
| 08:50.36 | ws2k3 | root@localhost:/# |
| 08:50.39 | nsadmin | what if temporarily you renamed /usr/sbin/sendmail to something like /usr/sbin/sendmail-off |
| 08:50.43 | ws2k3 | means file does ifsist |
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| 08:50.59 | nsadmin | yep |
| 08:51.02 | nsadmin | sure does |
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| 08:51.37 | nsadmin | and then did one of the tests again |
| 08:52.42 | ws2k3 | sh: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found |
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| 08:52.50 | ws2k3 | that i get in error.log of apache2 now |
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| 08:52.59 | Mr_O | hi |
| 08:53.00 | ws2k3 | does the sendmail does have a log file ? |
| 08:53.02 | nsadmin | ok, so it is actually running that thing |
| 08:53.11 | nsadmin | rename it back |
| 08:53.30 | ws2k3 | i did |
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| 08:54.48 | ws2k3 | problem is now i cant see what is the result of the sendmail aplication |
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| 08:56.08 | nsadmin | ok, and yes, there will be /var/log/mail.* and /var/log/exim4/* |
| 08:56.16 | Mr_O | i've got a server running debian lenny i'd like to update (i will consider upgrade later) thing is sources.list must be updated first but i can't find the sources for lenny… |
| 08:57.05 | ws2k3 | nsadmin if i run sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com |
| 08:57.07 | streuner | Mr_O: /msg dpkg lenny |
| 08:57.07 | ws2k3 | that works fine |
| 08:57.23 | ws2k3 | php5 runs as www-data am i right ? |
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| 08:57.36 | ws2k3 | when i do su www-data |
| 08:57.37 | nsadmin | probably |
| 08:57.42 | ws2k3 | and i run the command again |
| 08:57.42 | ws2k3 | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com |
| 08:57.48 | ws2k3 | it says sendmail command not found. |
| 08:58.05 | nsadmin | because you need the full path if you are not root |
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| 08:58.30 | ws2k3 | i'm in usr/sbin |
| 08:58.41 | nsadmin | if you say sendmail |
| 08:58.52 | nsadmin | it will use the execution path |
| 08:59.03 | nsadmin | which likely does not contain :.: |
| 08:59.08 | themill | ws2k3: I'd hope you don't have . in your $PATH so being in /usr/sbin doesn't help |
| 08:59.16 | nsadmin | it will therefore not find it |
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| 09:00.15 | ws2k3 | hmm ok |
| 09:00.31 | ws2k3 | so is there any other way i can check/test why sendmail doesnt do his job |
| 09:00.44 | themill | look in its logs |
| 09:01.05 | ws2k3 | which los |
| 09:01.10 | ws2k3 | which logs |
| 09:01.19 | nsadmin | ok, and yes, there will be /var/log/mail.* and /var/log/exim4/* |
| 09:01.33 | ws2k3 | in var/log/mail.log doesnt appear anything |
| 09:01.34 | nsadmin | could be in there somewhere |
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| 09:01.45 | themill | .o0( nullmailer probably doesn't use /var/log/exim4 ) |
| 09:02.17 | ws2k3 | when i call sendmail by hand as root there comes a log entry in /var/log/mail.log and the mail nicely arrive |
| 09:02.28 | ws2k3 | but when i use php it doesnt |
| 09:02.58 | ws2k3 | no enty in mail.log no error in error.log |
| 09:03.01 | nsadmin | dpkg -s exim4 | grep Status |
| 09:03.01 | dpkg | There is no record of a exim4 | grep Status package |
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| 09:03.17 | ws2k3 | Status: deinstall ok config-files |
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| 09:03.28 | nsadmin | ahh, ok |
| 09:03.47 | ws2k3 | dunno if that is a good or a bad thing |
| 09:04.09 | themill | you're using nullmailer -- of course exim4 is not installed |
| 09:04.21 | nsadmin | it means exim4 may have been installed before, and now is not. the config files remain/ |
| 09:04.32 | ws2k3 | hmm |
| 09:05.01 | ws2k3 | its just like the call of from php never eaches nullmailer |
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| 09:05.19 | themill | can you pastebin the code you're testing it with |
| 09:05.27 | ws2k3 | .php code ? |
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| 09:05.31 | themill | yes |
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| 09:05.38 | ws2k3 | if u insist |
| 09:05.43 | ws2k3 | because i'm sure my php code is good |
| 09:05.52 | themill | I assume you have a 3 line test case here.... |
| 09:05.52 | ws2k3 | the same code worked yesterday |
| 09:06.10 | ws2k3 | the website is complleet |
| 09:06.17 | ws2k3 | i only reinstalled the webserver |
| 09:06.38 | ws2k3 | and in php.ini can u say log all mail request to a seperate logfile |
| 09:06.39 | ws2k3 | so i did |
| 09:06.42 | nsadmin | yesterday? what are the things that happened from the time it worked yesterday to the first time you discovered it did not, I guess today? |
| 09:07.07 | ws2k3 | reinstalled |
| 09:07.11 | nsadmin | "reinstalled the webserver", that could have been it |
| 09:07.31 | ws2k3 | in that logfile i have rules like this : mail() on [/var/www/fgh/account/forgotpwsendmail.php:51]: To: ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com -- Headers: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 To: ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com From: FreeGameHosting <info@freegamehosting.nl> |
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| 09:07.41 | ws2k3 | means php is recieving and processing mails. |
| 09:07.48 | ws2k3 | only they never reach my nullmailer |
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| 09:08.27 | nsadmin | and, at least we know for sure that the php code does touch /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 09:09.02 | ws2k3 | now i have apt-get remove nullmailer and now the sendmail MTA is running |
| 09:09.45 | themill | sendmail? |
| 09:09.48 | nsadmin | sendmail?? wow :) I have the oreilly book on sendmail :) |
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| 09:10.11 | ws2k3 | now it did install sendmail the full mta |
| 09:10.19 | Arafangion | Weird, facebook's broken for me on chromium. |
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| 09:10.25 | ws2k3 | and when i do a php request for a mail i get this in my logs |
| 09:10.25 | ws2k3 | http://nopaste.info/99f0925d5d.html |
| 09:10.49 | ws2k3 | as u can see now the request are reaching sendmail. |
| 09:10.58 | jomofcw | I'm trying to update from Len ny to Squeeze. Is that the right way according you : Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude |
| 09:10.58 | jomofcw | search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <release notes>. |
| 09:11.05 | Woet | yes, it is jomofcw |
| 09:11.07 | antiiraj | I am trying to install debian. At the beginning I was told that I need "non-free" firmware rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw. After a little research I found what it was for. My question to you guys is would you recommend putting this on a usb and just going ahead with the process or do after installation. This is the reason why I ask, http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-realtek/download |
| 09:11.07 | ws2k3 | but i wanne use nullmailer instead of sendmail |
| 09:11.09 | jomofcw | Woet :P |
| 09:11.11 | nsadmin | ws2k3, well, check your mail :) |
| 09:11.11 | Maleko | why does 7z never writes proper files/dirs permissions during extracting if they are missing? |
| 09:11.13 | themill | jomofcw: you should read the release notes |
| 09:11.28 | ws2k3 | nsadmin relay=www-data@localhost |
| 09:11.33 | ws2k3 | ofcrouse thatts not gonna wrok |
| 09:11.34 | ws2k3 | work |
| 09:11.47 | jomofcw | Woet I shall replace each "lenny" to "squeeze" in my "/etc/apt/sources.list", right ? |
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| 09:11.52 | themill | jomofcw: that is a brief summary at best and doesn't really cover everything |
| 09:11.54 | ws2k3 | i didnt configurated sendmail i only noticed it now appears in the logs |
| 09:11.55 | Woet | !+lenny->squeeze |
| 09:11.55 | dpkg | Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <release notes>. |
| 09:12.11 | simonlnu | READ THE <release notes>. |
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| 09:13.00 | nsadmin | ws2k3, check your mail anyway... |
| 09:13.02 | jomofcw | I suppose I shall not ask "where is the release note" ^^. |
| 09:13.10 | ws2k3 | i have my mail open |
| 09:13.13 | ws2k3 | but nothing |
| 09:13.16 | themill | jomofcw: ask dpkg |
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| 09:13.29 | jelly | dpkg, tell jomofcw about release notes |
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| 09:13.49 | ws2k3 | i have installed nullmailer again and retry to send a mail from php |
| 09:14.00 | jomofcw | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/index.fr.html |
| 09:14.04 | ws2k3 | and in mail.log i only have Apr 4 11:12:11 localhost nullmailer[5751]: Rescanning queue. |
| 09:14.07 | ws2k3 | so nothing again |
| 09:14.07 | nsadmin | so sendmail can't send it either... |
| 09:14.13 | ws2k3 | nope |
| 09:14.20 | ws2k3 | but thats proberly because i didnt configure sendmail |
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| 09:14.27 | nsadmin | see if exim4 can do it |
| 09:14.27 | ws2k3 | i only apt-get install that all |
| 09:14.41 | ws2k3 | well i think without any configuration it also cant |
| 09:14.44 | jelly | ws2k3: did you confirm you could send mail with /usr/bin/mail? |
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| 09:15.30 | ws2k3 | jelly no i didnt |
| 09:15.57 | jelly | well this is good enough as well: <ws2k3> so i installed nullmailer when i do echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com it does send the mail but when i let php it doesnt work |
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| 09:16.04 | ws2k3 | i only tryed : echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com |
| 09:16.09 | jomofcw | So, I'll get those error installing it : http://pastebin.com/2YXL8kzN |
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| 09:16.35 | themill | dpkg: tell jomofcw about pastebin.com |
| 09:16.36 | nsadmin | ws2k3, it could be your mail settings are not configured to send from the address you give as the from address |
| 09:16.47 | themill | jomofcw: please use a pastebin that isn't painful for everyone else |
| 09:16.50 | nsadmin | see if stuff has appeared in mail.log and mail.err |
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| 09:17.02 | ws2k3 | no because when i run the command with my email adres the mail reaches me |
| 09:17.11 | jomofcw | OK :/ |
| 09:17.27 | simonlnu | and one that doesn't require js to see it would be nice too |
| 09:17.28 | themill | jomofcw: as you'll see in the release notes, "volatile" no longer exists |
| 09:17.36 | nsadmin | jomofcw, easy painless way: aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl |
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| 09:18.21 | vibhav | How do I reset my root password on debian |
| 09:18.25 | vibhav | I use LILO |
| 09:18.36 | ws2k3 | when i let php send a mail i dont get anything in mail.log |
| 09:18.36 | nsadmin | vibhav, forgot it? |
| 09:18.45 | vibhav | nsadmin: yeah :( |
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| 09:18.49 | jomofcw | nsadmin thanks. Shall I restart serv on finish ? |
| 09:19.40 | ws2k3 | i just dunno else what i can try |
| 09:19.41 | nsadmin | jomofcw, restart right after installing new kernel |
| 09:19.48 | ws2k3 | or what i'm doing wrong |
| 09:19.48 | themill | dpkg: tell vibhav about ifrp |
| 09:19.50 | jomofcw | OK done, restarting. |
| 09:20.23 | themill | jomofcw: hang on... what have you completed? |
| 09:20.34 | nsadmin | then I would recommend apt-get install dpkg apt-get aptitude right after rebooting |
| 09:20.41 | jomofcw | themill all :D. |
| 09:20.59 | jomofcw | "apt-get install dpkg apt-get aptitude" |
| 09:21.01 | jomofcw | right ? |
| 09:21.17 | vibhav | themill: I use LILO |
| 09:21.20 | nsadmin | yeah, after that you can dist-upgrade |
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| 09:21.29 | themill | vibhav: I know. You said. |
| 09:21.53 | themill | jomofcw, nsadmin: updating apt and dpkg prior to doing the dist-upgrade doesn't help for lenny->squeeze. If anything it can make it harder. |
| 09:22.10 | jomofcw | "apt-get install dpkg apt-get aptitude" : It answer me "impossible to find the packet apt-get" |
| 09:22.14 | nsadmin | themill, oh? what happens? |
| 09:22.40 | themill | nsadmin: it needs to upgrade a pile of packages to do that install and then complains |
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| 09:23.15 | jomofcw | I'm doing the apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 09:23.49 | nsadmin | ahh, so in a sense that upgrade is broken? |
| 09:24.18 | nsadmin | and if you don't upgrade those things first, things work better? |
| 09:24.44 | ws2k3 | can i not sendmail write to a log or so ? |
| 09:24.51 | nsadmin | jomofcw, themill does understand the details |
| 09:24.52 | symen | a dist-upgrade feels like a heart transplant most of the time for me, too |
| 09:25.05 | ws2k3 | maby then i know why they aint calling nullmailer |
| 09:25.29 | nsadmin | ws2k3, have new entries appeared in the logs from testing when sendmail was installed? |
| 09:25.54 | nsadmin | maybe those will be in /var/log/mail* |
| 09:26.25 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 09:26.29 | ws2k3 | when sendmail was installed |
| 09:26.35 | ws2k3 | the php call works |
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| 09:26.47 | jomofcw | dist-upgrade always running... |
| 09:26.48 | ws2k3 | only sendmail isnt configurated so that why i didnt get that mail |
| 09:26.52 | nsadmin | but still no mail? |
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| 09:26.54 | ws2k3 | no |
| 09:27.00 | ws2k3 | because sendmail MTA is not configurated |
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| 09:27.23 | ws2k3 | but when i have sendmail installed he try's to send the mail |
| 09:27.52 | nsadmin | so, there are log entries in /var/log/mail* from that? |
| 09:28.06 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 09:28.10 | vibhav | this is wierd, i have changed my root password and still I get Authentication failure |
| 09:28.27 | nsadmin | they're still there? I'd love to see those. |
| 09:28.54 | ws2k3 | http://nopaste.info/497752a4f5.html |
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| 09:29.58 | ws2k3 | i could pastebin my php.ini if u like |
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| 09:30.02 | ampharos | When fscking a FS, and it asks to fix a problem, should it? |
| 09:30.10 | nsadmin | ok, nullmailer claims it has succeeded |
| 09:30.28 | ampharos | directory problem i think |
| 09:30.34 | ws2k3 | yeah thats a call i did myself |
| 09:30.37 | ws2k3 | in console |
| 09:30.52 | nsadmin | and you got that mail? |
| 09:30.55 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 09:30.58 | ws2k3 | when i run this command : echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com |
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| 09:31.00 | ws2k3 | i get mail |
| 09:31.03 | huglester | guys, I have old debian linux machine which loads fine on HDD1. but when I clone it to HDD2, it start.. loads etc.. then I see named loaded and system hangs ... caps lock is working but no further boot is happening |
| 09:31.07 | nsadmin | ok, so we know nullmailer is working |
| 09:31.15 | huglester | anyone maybe has some ideas what can be happening? |
| 09:31.16 | ws2k3 | thats right |
| 09:31.26 | ws2k3 | problem is that the php call never reaches nullmailer |
| 09:31.52 | ws2k3 | ./usr/sbin/sendmail never reaches nullmailer |
| 09:32.27 | nsadmin | when you tried at console, you used "mail"? |
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| 09:33.11 | ws2k3 | no i use echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com |
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| 09:33.32 | nsadmin | as... what user? |
| 09:33.38 | ws2k3 | root |
| 09:33.43 | nsadmin | ok, |
| 09:33.59 | nsadmin | that was /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 09:34.16 | themill | ws2k3: what happens when you run that command as www-data |
| 09:34.43 | nsadmin | themill, he would have to change it to the full path |
| 09:34.46 | ws2k3 | sh: sendmail: not found |
| 09:34.58 | themill | ... |
| 09:35.12 | ws2k3 | themill look at this |
| 09:35.12 | ws2k3 | http://nopaste.info/d5a41402ca.html |
| 09:35.15 | ws2k3 | pleas |
| 09:35.15 | josen | Thats okay, cause sbin is not in $PATH for normal users. You have to call it with the full path, its SUID, AFAIK. |
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| 09:35.29 | nsadmin | echo "test" | /usr/sbin/sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl test@test.com |
| 09:35.38 | josen | Yeah, ws2k3, use what nsadmin just said :) |
| 09:35.58 | Mr_O | streuner: thx a lot :) |
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| 09:36.23 | themill | we covered that over half an hour ago... |
| 09:36.23 | nsadmin | what you're missing here, is details on how executables are found |
| 09:36.24 | ws2k3 | yeah that works |
| 09:36.41 | nsadmin | ws2k3, ok, did you get that mail? |
| 09:36.44 | ws2k3 | yes |
| 09:36.56 | nsadmin | ok, that confirms it |
| 09:37.02 | josen | Still, doesnt PHP handle this stuff with it's mail() command? |
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| 09:37.15 | nsadmin | themill, he doesn't have necessary background to remember that stuff |
| 09:37.15 | ws2k3 | thats true josen |
| 09:37.38 | ws2k3 | nsadmin ur saying my php.ini is wrong ? |
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| 09:37.46 | ws2k3 | i'm calling sendmail wrong ? |
| 09:38.23 | nsadmin | well if you call it as just sendmail (as nonroot) it tries to find it in a few places that do not include /usr/sbin |
| 09:38.25 | josen | ws2k3, just set "sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail" and dont worry anymore ;-) |
| 09:38.50 | ws2k3 | josen u think i didnt had that ? |
| 09:39.16 | josen | Id say so, yes. |
| 09:39.30 | ws2k3 | well lets check it again i assume i need to change /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini ? |
| 09:39.34 | ampharos | Thank god my FS wasn't totally screwed up - seemed that Opera's cache was hammered |
| 09:39.42 | ampharos | lots of missing inode |
| 09:39.42 | nsadmin | no, I just noticed you're forgetting stuff about how $PATH works |
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| 09:39.54 | josen | nsadmin, that too :) |
| 09:40.20 | nsadmin | ampharos, you're advised to back up any original material immediately |
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| 09:40.43 | ws2k3 | so.. what should i do now ? |
| 09:40.54 | josen | ws2k3, are you running on the public internet? |
| 09:41.22 | ws2k3 | how u mean ? |
| 09:41.34 | ws2k3 | yeah the server is directly connected to the wan |
| 09:42.13 | josen | then I wouldnt try to setup an MTA with this state of knowledge. can get you into lots of trouble. |
| 09:43.19 | ws2k3 | josen i have a firewall that protect my nullmailer from abuse |
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| 09:43.35 | ws2k3 | and i use an externel smtp server to deliver my mail |
| 09:43.48 | josen | Good. |
| 09:44.11 | josen | Then Id write a minimal php example trying to deliver mail with all error reporting going to a file (like /tmp/php.err) and tail -f that :) |
| 09:44.41 | g00se | Puzzling things afoot with my mp3 player: it comes up mounted as /dev/sdb suddenly instead of /dev/sdb1. What could have happened? |
| 09:44.45 | josen | also, fix the paths in your php.ini and check phpinfo() if it takes the info from php.ini or somewhere in conf.d/ |
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| 09:45.50 | NiLon | php will only report error if it fails with sendmail, so I would actually check mta logs instead |
| 09:46.15 | NiLon | actually it doesn't even make error for that, it will simply return false |
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| 09:46.50 | josen | checking for returning false is part of a minimal mail() example ;-) |
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| 09:47.18 | josen | Also, he says it works from the commandline, so the next step is to debug the hand-off between php and the sendmail command/MTA |
| 09:47.31 | NiLon | yeah but if you already know that it's not working, that knowledge is not something you actually need :p |
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| 09:48.18 | nsadmin | josen, one thing we already tried that is part of that debug, is rename /usr/sbin/sendmail to /usr/sbin/sendmail-off |
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| 09:48.26 | NiLon | but yeah, you go and try whatever you find suitable |
| 09:48.50 | ws2k3 | hmm |
| 09:48.50 | josen | okay, sendmail looks fine. |
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| 09:49.23 | nsadmin | NiLon: that may be true, but if you don't know which way to go during debugging, all information remains valueable |
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| 09:49.57 | josen | ws2k3, turn off suhosin for a start and check again. |
| 09:50.14 | nsadmin | one thing I would check, is whether /usr/sbin/sendmail returns an exit status |
| 09:50.28 | NiLon | personally I would make 100% sure that mail is working fully with sendmail same way as php is using it before starting to research php |
| 09:50.30 | ws2k3 | what is suhosin ? |
| 09:50.47 | ws2k3 | i know my php code is good. |
| 09:50.49 | NiLon | that is because php's mail() is very dump |
| 09:50.53 | simonlnu | seriously? |
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| 09:50.58 | josen | You know which PHP Extensions you installed/loaded, right? |
| 09:51.07 | simonlnu | !suhosin |
| 09:51.10 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 09:51.18 | josen | Then you should know how to disable them. |
| 09:51.23 | NiLon | in debian suhosin is patched to php without installing it |
| 09:51.31 | NiLon | and you can't disable it without compiling php by yourself |
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| 09:52.01 | simonlnu | that's still the case for squeeze, anyway |
| 09:52.38 | NiLon | are we not talking about squeeze? |
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| 09:53.02 | ampharos | I've been having a REALLY bad problem |
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| 09:53.18 | ampharos | the system is a perpetual state of fs errors |
| 09:53.32 | ampharos | as soon i start opera and use it, shit fucks up BAD |
| 09:53.32 | simonlnu | it's called an fyi. you might consider being more open. |
| 09:53.38 | ampharos | the FS becomes read only |
| 09:53.44 | ws2k3 | hmm |
| 09:53.44 | ampharos | and I have to reboot |
| 09:53.45 | ksk | NiLon: i dunno if debian uses the patch or the extension, but theres a suhosin variable that deactivates its features/restrictions |
| 09:53.51 | ws2k3 | so the sendmail path is fine |
| 09:54.06 | ampharos | When I first started up the PC, it had massive inode problems, all pressed y |
| 09:54.22 | ws2k3 | so what can i do ? |
| 09:54.28 | NiLon | ksk sure there are plenty configuration options for suhosin |
| 09:54.44 | josen | ampharos, its not wise to "just press y" when fsck returns errors. Check dmesg and smartctl --all if your drive reports errors. |
| 09:54.52 | ws2k3 | my previus server had suhosin as wel |
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| 09:55.05 | simonlnu | ksk: both |
| 09:55.16 | ampharos | I've never experienced HD problems in Debian; I did experience some in Windows, bearings seized in that PC |
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| 09:55.52 | josen | hd/fs problems will haunt you no matter what os you run ;-) thats why you should do backups. |
| 09:56.05 | ksk | NiLon: "suhosin.simulation = On" |
| 09:56.11 | ksk | ask mr google about it |
| 09:56.24 | ksk | but, its not a bad idea to use suhosin anyway, imho.. |
| 09:56.24 | ampharos | dmesg only gets ugly if opera starts |
| 09:56.30 | symen | ampharos: make backups while you can :D |
| 09:56.34 | ampharos | I think my mother force shutdown the PC while opera was doing stuff |
| 09:56.39 | josen | nopaste us on how it gets ugly. |
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| 09:56.40 | NiLon | ksk ask about what? |
| 09:56.55 | ksk | < ksk> NiLon: "suhosin.simulation = On" |
| 09:57.04 | ws2k3 | hmm |
| 09:57.09 | NiLon | ksk why? |
| 09:57.11 | tosmo | when an (proprietary..) application segfaults after upgrading the rest of the system (most importantly probably libraries), where do i begin so search? Is there a good way to track down the segfault to certain library calls? |
| 09:57.18 | ampharos | the system is usable, it only seems Opera's .opera dir got totalled when the stuff screwed up |
| 09:57.35 | ampharos | when opera starts and tries to use it, it gets bad |
| 09:57.42 | ampharos | I don't have smartctl on the system also |
| 09:57.52 | ampharos | it wouldn't work on IDE drives anyways...? |
| 09:58.08 | nsadmin | tosmo other than that, the upgrade went well? |
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| 09:58.21 | josen | ampharos, if youre not running RAID1 i would run smartctl weekly with short offline test, just to be on the safe side. |
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| 09:58.42 | josen | someone still uses stuff from before 2002? Oo |
| 09:58.47 | ws2k3 | anyome still some idea's ? |
| 09:58.48 | ampharos | It's a damn desktop! |
| 09:59.05 | ampharos | It's a Celeron, you think I would RAID a Celeron? |
| 09:59.11 | josen | if its a primary desktop for someones work i would care ;-) apt-get install smartmontools |
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| 09:59.20 | tosmo | nsadmin: yep, but unfortunately it's the printer not working anymore.. (novell iprint) |
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| 09:59.40 | jelly | ampharos: only if you value your uptime and ability to work on it! |
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| 09:59.59 | josen | jelly, hehe, surely only then ;-) |
| 10:00.06 | nsadmin | you'll either need to grab old libs and put em somewhere they don't affect the system or upgrade your novell thing |
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| 10:00.26 | nsadmin | the former would need for you to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| 10:00.47 | josen | But I guess some random paranoia regarding real MTBF is always appropriate. |
| 10:00.52 | ws2k3 | nsadmin sendmail is still not reaching nullmailer |
| 10:01.23 | themill | ws2k3: have you made a simple 3 line example in php yet? |
| 10:01.48 | ws2k3 | for test mail ? |
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| 10:02.26 | themill | well, I suspect testing mail() would be more useful for you than testing any other php function right now. |
| 10:02.59 | ws2k3 | i understand |
| 10:03.05 | ws2k3 | but like i sad i'm pretty sure its not in php |
| 10:03.23 | ws2k3 | because php logs the mail requests |
| 10:04.07 | themill | a three line example makes it easier to trace execution... that's why I asked for it an hour ago |
| 10:04.08 | ws2k3 | this mail request have been logged : http://pastebin.com/41Y3d9SL |
| 10:04.32 | ws2k3 | what do u think would be nessecery in that example ? |
| 10:04.56 | themill | a single call to mail() with appropriate headers and message |
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| 10:05.32 | ws2k3 | ok i have that |
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| 10:05.54 | ws2k3 | means : mail('test@test.com', 'My Subject', $message); woudl do the job |
| 10:06.42 | ws2k3 | mail('ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com', 'My Subject', 'My message'); |
| 10:07.04 | ampharos | I did a smartctl scan http://pastebin.com/EPHV47gK |
| 10:07.07 | themill | that would be fine. Now what happens when you execute that with php5 at the command line? |
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| 10:07.48 | josen | ampharos, you see the device resets? |
| 10:07.53 | ws2k3 | how u mean at the command line |
| 10:07.59 | josen | When did you last vacuum clean your PC? ;-) |
| 10:08.04 | ws2k3 | i have placed that in a .php file that i run with my webbrowser |
| 10:08.26 | ampharos | a few months ago |
| 10:08.33 | themill | ws2k3: [09:13] <nsadmin> php5-cli - command-line interpreter for the php5 scripting language |
| 10:08.39 | ampharos | I keep my PCs clean about every 6 months |
| 10:09.11 | josen | try again and blow lightly into the pata connectors for a first try. the device resets are most often coming from dust (had in servers when I ran them without dust protection at least every 6 month) |
| 10:09.23 | ws2k3 | ok i installed |
| 10:09.28 | ws2k3 | but how do i start that command line |
| 10:09.37 | ws2k3 | because php5-cli is an unknow command |
| 10:09.46 | jelly | ws2k3: it's just php5 |
| 10:09.52 | Zitter | hi, is there a file where I can set my own crontab? My own = such as a normal sys user |
| 10:10.10 | themill | Zitter: run "crontab -e" |
| 10:10.33 | Zitter | yes, but when it asks me to save where I have to save? |
| 10:10.44 | ampharos | this thing was going to be taken out to the pastures anyways |
| 10:11.04 | themill | Zitter: what editor are you using? |
| 10:11.10 | Zitter | vim |
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| 10:11.24 | themill | Zitter: :x should be quite sufficient -- it uses a tempfile |
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| 10:11.50 | Zitter | ah, ok. tempfile was confusing me :) |
| 10:12.02 | ws2k3 | and how can i run code that i have entered ? |
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| 10:15.16 | nodiscc | $ gnome-terminal: Floating point exception. (gnome-terminal 3.2.1-2 on wheezy) How can I solve this? |
| 10:15.30 | ws2k3 | themill nullmailer-queue: Envelope sender address is invalid. |
| 10:15.30 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-inject: nullmailer-queue failed. |
| 10:15.33 | nodiscc | Good day everyone btw |
| 10:16.04 | ws2k3 | this was my rule "mail('ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com', 'My Subject', $message);" |
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| 10:16.34 | jomofcw | Back ^^ ! |
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| 10:16.42 | jomofcw | Lenny to Squeeze upgrade seems to be OK. |
| 10:17.25 | jomofcw | How can I unsure the right version is in now, plz ? |
| 10:17.29 | elektryk | Hi, can someone help me with "find"? I need to find files file.txt and file_1.txt. I use file[\\-_]?\\.txt but it only find file_1.txt. Why the "?" is not affecting on the []? |
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| 10:17.30 | nsadmin | sounds great |
| 10:17.48 | nsadmin | you want to be unsure? |
| 10:18.07 | nsadmin | jomofcw, try: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 10:18.17 | nsadmin | does it do anything? |
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| 10:19.52 | nsadmin | elektryk, show the whole find line you use |
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| 10:21.01 | elektryk | nsadmin: find "/some/folders/" -type f -iname "file[\\-_]?\\.txt" |
| 10:21.01 | symen | elektryk: why not file[\\-_]{0,1}\\.txt ? |
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| 10:21.21 | nsadmin | -iname is not regex |
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| 10:21.41 | elektryk | : o |
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| 10:21.55 | elektryk | what should i place there? |
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| 10:22.11 | nsadmin | is there -iregex? |
| 10:22.29 | ws2k3 | nsadmin |
| 10:22.39 | nsadmin | you want to fine fIlE.TXt? |
| 10:22.47 | elektryk | no |
| 10:23.03 | nsadmin | ok, why the iname? |
| 10:23.18 | ws2k3 | i get this error nullmailer-queue: Envelope sender address is invalid. |
| 10:23.18 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-inject: nullmailer-queue failed. |
| 10:23.20 | elektryk | don;t knwo, i faound it in some tutorial |
| 10:23.22 | nsadmin | what did you want that for |
| 10:23.42 | ws2k3 | this is the php code is execute mail('ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com', 'My Subject', 'test'); |
| 10:23.51 | nsadmin | ws2k3, what email is it trying to send from? |
| 10:24.40 | elektryk | i am a beginer, i need in php to get a list of files |
| 10:24.54 | elektryk | so what should a use instead of -iname? |
| 10:24.55 | ws2k3 | i dont know |
| 10:25.11 | nsadmin | elektryk, what os are you running? |
| 10:25.11 | mashed | elektryk: have you tried using the php filesystem functions? |
| 10:25.20 | ws2k3 | i think php.net is down |
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| 10:25.36 | mashed | it is much much much safer |
| 10:25.45 | nsadmin | it's returning pings |
| 10:25.51 | symen | elektryk: find "/some/folder/" -type f -regex "file(_[0-9]+){0,1}\.txt" |
| 10:25.57 | ws2k3 | nsadmin in my test.php i dont have a sender defined |
| 10:26.13 | elektryk | nsadmin: ubuntu but it should work on many systems, debian is the most important |
| 10:26.38 | nsadmin | about this sender... does your web server have a hostname? |
| 10:26.45 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 10:26.49 | symen | elektryk: i'm not sure about escaping the ( and [ |
| 10:26.53 | ws2k3 | i think so |
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| 10:27.03 | ws2k3 | the hostname is localhost |
| 10:27.03 | nsadmin | msg me it |
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| 10:27.17 | nsadmin | oh, you're just testing? |
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| 10:27.18 | nodiscc | can't connect to irc.oftc.net, anyone have the same problem? |
| 10:27.18 | ws2k3 | i runned hostanme |
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| 10:27.19 | ws2k3 | hostname |
| 10:27.20 | ws2k3 | in debian |
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| 10:27.41 | nsadmin | oh ok, but do you want this to be a real internet-facing web server? |
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| 10:27.49 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 10:27.52 | ws2k3 | it already is |
| 10:28.08 | mashed | cringes |
| 10:28.09 | nsadmin | oh, this is freegamehosting.nl? |
| 10:28.17 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 10:28.22 | nsadmin | ok, one sec |
| 10:28.23 | ws2k3 | freegamehosting runs on that server |
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| 10:28.55 | nsadmin | and that web server sees requests for www.fregamehosting.nl? |
| 10:29.00 | ws2k3 | yeah |
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| 10:29.06 | ws2k3 | i have configured a vhost |
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| 10:29.39 | nsadmin | ws2k3, this is a remote? |
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| 10:30.42 | ws2k3 | how u mean a remote ? |
| 10:30.56 | ws2k3 | is it a server in a datacenter yes |
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| 10:31.08 | ws2k3 | nsadmin i can define sendmail_from in php.ini |
| 10:31.11 | themill | ws2k3: set a correct From header in the additional_headers parameter for the mail() function |
| 10:31.25 | nsadmin | oh ok, still looking at stuff |
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| 10:31.59 | symen | ws2k3: you're on the right track now |
| 10:32.15 | ws2k3 | symen i think so |
| 10:32.17 | ws2k3 | but no |
| 10:32.25 | ws2k3 | i have defined a sendmail_from in php.ini |
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| 10:32.37 | ws2k3 | and i have restarted my apache2 |
| 10:32.50 | ws2k3 | and i have retryed the test.php |
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| 10:32.53 | symen | do you see the value coming back in php_info() ? |
| 10:32.54 | ws2k3 | and still sender invalid |
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| 10:33.19 | symen | put a php_info() call in your test script to find out if php really picked up the var. |
| 10:33.27 | elektryk | symen: find "/some/path/" -type f -regex "file(_[0-9]+){0,1}\\.txt" found nothing, with one \ also nothing |
| 10:33.37 | themill | did you change the right config file? And why are you restarting apache to test something at the command line? |
| 10:33.46 | elektryk | mashed: i need optymalization |
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| 10:34.10 | nsadmin | one thing, your domain has an mx record |
| 10:34.19 | Repox | Hi, I've been looking at backports, trying to grasp what it is, since I need an updated version of a package. Looking at this page http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ I see how I add the backports to my sources list and how I install a backported package. |
| 10:34.30 | symen | elektryk: http://php.net/manual/en/function.glob.php |
| 10:34.56 | ws2k3 | symen it picked the var |
| 10:34.57 | symen | elektryk: just try the glob() function, native php is always preferred over system calls. |
| 10:35.03 | symen | ws2k3: hmmmmmm |
| 10:35.27 | nsadmin | which means, mail coming in for someone@freegamehosting.nl is redirected to mail.freegamehosting.nl |
| 10:35.36 | elektryk | i don't know that function |
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| 10:35.45 | ws2k3 | still |
| 10:35.45 | ws2k3 | root@localhost:/home/server# php5 test.php |
| 10:35.45 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-queue: Envelope sender address is invalid. |
| 10:35.46 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-inject: nullmailer-queue failed. |
| 10:35.46 | ws2k3 | root@localhost:/home/server# |
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| 10:35.48 | Repox | Looking at http://backports-master.debian.org/Packages/ I see I can search packages. But I don't get any results or I'm told I have to many hits. But I can't find anything of what I'm actually looking for. I'm unsure as to how to proceed? |
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| 10:35.57 | mashed | hehe |
| 10:35.59 | ws2k3 | sorry that paste was to big |
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| 10:36.11 | ws2k3 | how u mean nsadmin ? |
| 10:36.30 | themill | ws2k3: did you change the right config file? And why are you restarting apache to test something at the command line? |
| 10:36.37 | symen | ws2k3: php cli uses a different php.ini sometimes |
| 10:36.37 | nsadmin | say someone sends mail to someone@fgh.nl |
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| 10:36.48 | ws2k3 | themill to be sure |
| 10:37.06 | symen | ws2k3: try running "php -i | grep sendmail_from" |
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| 10:37.48 | ws2k3 | symen output is sendmail_from => no value => no value |
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| 10:38.35 | nsadmin | maybe you have to copy the php.ini somewhere |
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| 10:38.49 | ws2k3 | nsadmin my phpinfo() shows i have it set |
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| 10:39.18 | nsadmin | ws2k3, when you do what tho? |
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| 10:39.21 | iHerb | Hello, and please sorry for that =) Have a nice day! |
| 10:39.21 | iHerb | iHerb.com - Vitamins, Supplements & Natural Health Products & etc! |
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| 10:40.01 | ws2k3 | nsadmin how you mean ? |
| 10:40.36 | themill | ws2k3: you edited the wrong php.ini. |
| 10:40.58 | symen | ws2k3: php5 cli invocation reads a different config file: run "php -i | grep php.ini" |
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| 10:41.28 | symen | themill: no, he basically should edit both regular php.ini and /cli/php.ini |
| 10:41.35 | jomofcw | nsadmin it doesn't do anything, so upgrade is OK ^^ ! thanks |
| 10:41.40 | ws2k3 | used antoher config |
| 10:41.42 | ws2k3 | Loaded Configuration File => /etc/php5/cli/php.ini |
| 10:41.52 | ws2k3 | but i noticed that in my php code i do |
| 10:41.53 | symen | or tell the command line to use the regular php.ini with command line option -c |
| 10:41.55 | jomofcw | Is there a command to display the version I use ? |
| 10:42.12 | nsadmin | jomofcw, version of? |
| 10:42.13 | ws2k3 | $headers .= "To: " . $email . "\r\n"; |
| 10:42.13 | ws2k3 | $headers .= "From: FreeGameHosting <info@freegamehosting.nl>\r\n"; |
| 10:42.17 | themill | symen: he's looking at phpinfo() on through a website and testing php on commandline -- we've both told him he edited the wrong php.ini for this twice. This has been going for hours now... life's too short. |
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| 10:42.53 | ws2k3 | themill i know. |
| 10:43.03 | ws2k3 | themill but in my php code i define a from. |
| 10:43.14 | nsadmin | !versions |
| 10:43.35 | symen | themill: i'm guessing it will turn out the problem is not in the php config |
| 10:43.45 | jomofcw | nsadmin core ? |
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| 10:43.53 | ws2k3 | symen i'm going to define a from in my test.php and run it again |
| 10:43.54 | symen | themill: so yes, it will take a while before he/we find the issue |
| 10:44.03 | themill | ws2k3: so do so in your test case... [11:31] <themill> ws2k3: set a correct From header in the additional_headers parameter for the mail() function |
| 10:44.11 | nsadmin | you mean of debian itself? look at the file /etc/debian_version |
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| 10:45.06 | elektryk | symen: glob don't alow to use regular expression |
| 10:45.14 | nsadmin | ws2k3, the commandline php and the apache php are using 2 different configs I think |
| 10:45.27 | elektryk | i just need to use scandir recurlivly |
| 10:45.50 | jomofcw | thanks nsadmin |
| 10:45.52 | ws2k3 | yeah it are differeny config |
| 10:46.03 | nsadmin | !version |
| 10:46.03 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 10:46.09 | jomofcw | Anyone knows how should I access the PhpMyAdmin install by default with squeeze :D ? |
| 10:46.17 | nsadmin | jomofcw, lookit dat! |
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| 10:46.48 | ws2k3 | is this correct : mail('ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com', 'My Subject', 'test','From: FreeGameHosting <info@freegamehosting.nl>'); |
| 10:47.01 | nsadmin | I do't like php or mysql that much ;) |
| 10:47.25 | nsadmin | I'm trying to help without viewing code ;) |
| 10:47.46 | ws2k3 | :) |
| 10:47.55 | nsadmin | if the 4th parameter is headers? |
| 10:48.07 | jomofcw | nsadmin thanks for version things :P I have each I need, except the PhpMyAdmin. I shall access it from web to know it. |
| 10:48.14 | nsadmin | or, what's the 4th param supposed to be |
| 10:48.23 | ws2k3 | http://php.net/manual/en/function.mail.php |
| 10:48.30 | ws2k3 | bool mail ( string $to , string $subject , string $message [, string $additional_headers [, string $additional_parameters ]] ) |
| 10:49.16 | nsadmin | and of course phpmyadmin combines these two things I don like much... sigh.... |
| 10:49.18 | nsadmin | :) |
| 10:49.49 | josen | anyone here who can point mke to a howto on how to setup automatic debian package building? |
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| 10:50.18 | Sevet | jomofcw: read /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian.gz for how to access your phpmyadmin, and 'dpkg -L phpmyadmin' will tell you what version's installed |
| 10:50.23 | nsadmin | ws2k3, what's the bool coming out of mail mean? |
| 10:51.02 | Sevet | whether it was accepted for delivery or not by your mta |
| 10:51.23 | nsadmin | you should check that bool in your code :) |
| 10:51.28 | Sevet | it doesn't actually mean it is/will be delivered, just that it'll try |
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| 10:52.33 | nsadmin | not that everyone would like what I like... openacs, tcl, aolserver, postgres |
| 10:52.35 | symen | elektryk: does http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2084325/help-with-glob-pattern help? :P |
| 10:52.45 | symen | never underestimate stackoverflow |
| 10:52.52 | nsadmin | instead of LAMP... that's LOTAP! |
| 10:53.12 | elektryk | symen: only * |
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| 10:53.46 | symen | elektryk: the link i pasted suggests using SPL DirectoryIterator instead, with an example |
| 10:53.50 | simonlnu | LEPP |
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| 10:54.18 | ws2k3 | the people in #php say this is correct : mail('ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com', 'My Subject', 'test',"From: FreeGameHosting <info@freegamehosting.nl>\r\n"); |
| 10:54.31 | elektryk | i just start writing it using scandir , i don't want to start it again |
| 10:54.40 | ws2k3 | but still it says invalid sender |
| 10:55.22 | nsadmin | you have to make nullmailer understand which domain it should allow sending from |
| 10:55.54 | simonlnu | linux, nginx, postgres, python/perl/php (in order of preference :P) |
| 10:55.57 | jomofcw | nsadmin xD |
| 10:56.19 | jomofcw | Thanks Sevet :). |
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| 10:57.07 | ws2k3 | hmm |
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| 10:58.26 | nsadmin | ws2k3, you want to test thing that comes out of mail |
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| 10:58.47 | nsadmin | something like |
| 10:59.02 | nsadmin | if <ws2k3> the people in #php say this is correct : mail('ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com', 'My Subject', 'test',"From: FreeGameHosting <info@freegamehosting.nl>\r\n") then ... |
| 10:59.18 | nsadmin | err wait, |
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| 10:59.44 | nsadmin | if mail('ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com', 'My Subject', 'test',"From: FreeGameHosting <info@freegamehosting.nl>\r\n") then ... |
| 11:00.34 | nsadmin | look at that link you posted on the manual for mail (of php) |
| 11:00.47 | nsadmin | you want to see what the return value means |
| 11:01.30 | nsadmin | and if you want good chances at success... ALWAYS check the return values of funcs you cal but didn't write! |
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| 11:01.42 | ws2k3 | nsadmin it return true or false |
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| 11:02.06 | nsadmin | yes, so, what does it mean when mail returns true? |
| 11:02.21 | jomofcw | Sevet PMA ask me for a login/password, but I dunno which one is... how can I define a new one ? |
| 11:02.34 | ws2k3 | that we are fine |
| 11:02.39 | ws2k3 | but i first need to fix the CLI |
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| 11:02.46 | nsadmin | and when false? |
| 11:02.55 | nsadmin | true |
| 11:02.59 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-queue: Envelope sender address is invalid. |
| 11:02.59 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-inject: nullmailer-queue failed. |
| 11:03.03 | ws2k3 | it return this error |
| 11:03.27 | simonlnu | jomofcw: the admin user/pass |
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| 11:03.29 | nsadmin | so if it did not work, it return false |
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| 11:03.38 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 11:03.59 | nsadmin | we should get out of the actual php language... better info on #php for that |
| 11:04.00 | jomofcw | simonlnu I dunno it, i already try each one I define previously but no one work. |
| 11:04.20 | ws2k3 | i know that why i'm in #php :D |
| 11:05.02 | nsadmin | but no matter what language... always ALWAYS never EVER fail to check the return value |
| 11:05.06 | simonlnu | !i forgot mysql root password |
| 11:05.19 | simonlnu | damn, ha |
| 11:05.21 | nsadmin | try: root |
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| 11:05.54 | nsadmin | never saw that one coming huhuh huhuhu |
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| 11:08.04 | simonlnu | !i forgot mysql root password |
| 11:08.04 | dpkg | If you've forgotten the <MySQL> root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld; /etc/init.d/mysql start See also http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html , <mysql initial password>. |
| 11:08.15 | simonlnu | jomofcw: ^^ |
| 11:09.15 | nsadmin | ohh, not you L:) |
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| 11:12.32 | zmuss | Hello, Can someone explain to me following line from iptables: "DNAT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:https to:192.168.5.100:10245 " Thanks |
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| 11:13.11 | mashed | zmuss: that is a catch all iptables rule |
| 11:13.24 | mashed | it will forward (NAT) all traffic to the specified host |
| 11:13.42 | mashed | like the DMX option on consumer firewalls |
| 11:13.48 | mashed | s/DMX/DMZ. |
| 11:13.51 | mjt | what?? |
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| 11:14.26 | zmuss | Thanks @mashed |
| 11:14.27 | mashed | oh wait no, mis read, it's HTTPS only |
| 11:14.31 | Sevet | mashed: no, just all traffic to port 443 to 192.168.5.100:10245, so more like port forwarding |
| 11:14.32 | mjt | mashed: you missed dpt:https didn't you? |
| 11:14.56 | mashed | yes :-/ |
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| 11:21.58 | phaidros | is there a way to see if and which files got modiefied since a package was installed with debian tools? |
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| 11:23.24 | ws2k3 | now i realy dont understand anymore |
| 11:23.50 | ws2k3 | mail('ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com', 'My Subject', 'test',"From: FreeGameHosting <info@freegamehosting.nl>"); |
| 11:23.54 | ws2k3 | it still says invalid |
| 11:24.12 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-queue: Envelope sender address is invalid. |
| 11:24.12 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-inject: nullmailer-queue failed. |
| 11:24.28 | nsadmin | nullmailer has to be reconfigured |
| 11:24.46 | ws2k3 | how u mean |
| 11:24.51 | mjt | echo "test" /usr/sbin/sendmail -f ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com |
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| 11:25.00 | mjt | echo "test" | /usr/sbin/sendmail -f ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com info@freegamehosting.nl |
| 11:25.03 | mjt | does it work? |
| 11:25.32 | nsadmin | nullmailer is an MTA and as such you have to tell it the domain that can send |
| 11:25.53 | mjt | or -- echo -e "Subject: My Subject\n\ntest" | /usr/sbin/sendmail -f ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com info@freegamehosting.nl |
| 11:25.54 | nsadmin | but... let mjt have a try :) |
| 11:26.00 | mjt | i wont ;) |
| 11:26.12 | mjt | i watched this story going on for several days |
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| 11:26.27 | mjt | (but i didn't pay much attention to it) |
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| 11:26.47 | andiolsi | is there any way to install a package (in this case grub-pc) wihtout it popping up ncurses interfaces? |
| 11:27.02 | ws2k3 | first command doesnt |
| 11:27.10 | mjt | doesn't what? |
| 11:27.14 | DasEi | is there a known reason why dotdeb repo isn't working anymore ? |
| 11:27.33 | mjt | andiolsi: if a package depend on some library you can't install it without that library, this is how dependencies work. |
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| 11:27.35 | nsadmin | dunno... dotdeb are separate |
| 11:27.38 | phaidros | DasEi: worked for me some hours ago |
| 11:27.49 | mjt | !dotdeb |
| 11:27.49 | dpkg | dotdeb is for the latest PHP and MySQL releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/ , but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN. The packages from backports.debian.org are vastly superior. Ask me about <backports> and <debian-backports>. To remove: "aptitude purge '~Vdotdeb'" |
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| 11:27.59 | DasEi | phaidros: mind giving me the line from sources ? |
| 11:28.02 | DasEi | ah |
| 11:28.16 | ws2k3 | this command works |
| 11:28.16 | ws2k3 | echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com |
| 11:28.31 | ws2k3 | but both ur command didnt |
| 11:28.33 | babilen | DasEi: I strongly recommend the packages from http://backports.debian.org |
| 11:29.01 | andiolsi | mjt: no i mean i want to install it without any user interaction whatsoever |
| 11:29.13 | mjt | andiolsi: so rebuild it to not _use_ ncurses |
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| 11:29.44 | andiolsi | that wouldnt be very generic |
| 11:30.20 | mjt | in that case split the package into 2 parts |
| 11:30.26 | ws2k3 | mjt doesnt send the mail |
| 11:30.37 | jelly | mjt: it's not using ncurses, it's using debconf in all likelihood |
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| 11:30.44 | mjt | sure I don't send any mail |
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| 11:30.50 | babilen | andiolsi: Try "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive ; apt-get -q -y FOO-PKG" |
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| 11:31.34 | mjt | and as far as i can see, nullmailer does not restrict envelope sender domain, not by default not at all. |
| 11:31.42 | DasEi | phaidros: ah, found my mistake, was using oldstable and had conflicting in use (see babil..), thanks anyway |
| 11:31.48 | phaidros | kk :) |
| 11:31.51 | ws2k3 | i understand |
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| 11:31.59 | ws2k3 | but still i cant get php in cli to send a mail |
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| 11:32.13 | phaidros | btw, debsums is the tool to check for changed files from packages |
| 11:32.18 | mjt | ws2k3: so who complains about wrong envelope address? |
| 11:32.32 | ws2k3 | root@localhost:/home/server# php5 test.php |
| 11:32.32 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-queue: Envelope sender address is invalid. |
| 11:32.33 | ws2k3 | nullmailer-inject: nullmailer-queue failed. |
| 11:32.33 | ws2k3 | root@localhost:/home/server# |
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| 11:32.42 | mjt | ws2k3: i mean when using simple /usr/sin/sendmail interface |
| 11:32.50 | mjt | sbin |
| 11:32.52 | ws2k3 | i do |
| 11:33.01 | mjt | php5 != sendmail |
| 11:33.02 | ws2k3 | i have a php script that i run in cli |
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| 11:33.24 | ws2k3 | when i run that it complains |
| 11:33.39 | babilen | ws2k3: Please paste to http://paste.debian.net not into the channel. Thank you! |
| 11:33.39 | mjt | ok, no problem then. |
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| 11:34.20 | ws2k3 | http://paste.debian.net/162013/ |
| 11:34.30 | ws2k3 | that is the php script that i run in cli |
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| 11:36.07 | ws2k3 | i realy dont understand i allways used nullmailer without any problems |
| 11:36.20 | ws2k3 | the php code that i use is exacly the same |
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| 11:36.48 | mjt | i doubt you'll go anywhere unless you'll start answering questions |
| 11:37.04 | ws2k3 | which question of u i didn answer ? |
| 11:37.31 | mjt | does it work when using /usr/sbin/sendmail interface? |
| 11:37.35 | ws2k3 | yes |
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| 11:38.19 | ws2k3 | if i run this echo "test" | sendmail -f info@freegamehosting.nl ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com i have an email within seconds |
| 11:38.51 | mjt | in this case it is a php question. i've no idea what is php and how to configure it, and what args the php mail() function accepts. You may try to replace /usr/sbin/sendmail binary with a tiny shell script that just shows command-line arguments, to see what php actually passes to it. |
| 11:39.03 | jelly | ws2k3: so tell PHP to use -f ... as well. |
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| 11:39.53 | zealiod | HOw do I allow a user to su into another user's account without a password |
| 11:40.17 | ws2k3 | mjt i'm sure the php code is right. because yesterday it worked with the same .php code |
| 11:40.18 | jelly | ws2k3: a quote from the manual http://php.net/manual/en/function.mail.php: "additional_parameters [...] can be used to set the envelope sender address when using sendmail with the -f sendmail option" |
| 11:40.39 | Nurbs | zealiod: You'd probably use sudo or similar instead |
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| 11:40.56 | ws2k3 | jelly that means i need to define -f in my php.ini ? |
| 11:41.01 | jelly | NO |
| 11:41.31 | Sevet | zealiod: 'sudo su - username' would let you do that, configuring sudo to let them do that without a password |
| 11:41.31 | jelly | ws2k3: read the manual. It says you can add a fifth optional parameter for mail() function. |
| 11:41.45 | Sevet | but remember you're giving that user full root access then, because they can su to root |
| 11:42.15 | Nurbs | Speaking of sudo... I'm going to fix mine. Seems to be broken. That's what you get for using unstable and experimental... :-) |
| 11:42.19 | CissWit | zealiod: try a rule like "user1 ALL=(user2) NOPASSWD: ALL" with sudo |
| 11:42.29 | mjt | actually sudo can be configured to run particular command as particular user |
| 11:42.30 | Nurbs | One can limit the users a user can sudo to |
| 11:42.32 | jelly | ws2k3: in your example, this might look something like mail('ton_wittenberg@hotmail.com', 'My Subject', 'test', "From: FreeGameHosting <info@freegamehosting.nl>", "-finfo@freegamehosting.nl");); |
| 11:42.36 | CissWit | zealiod: this will allow user1 to sudo as theuser2 without password |
| 11:42.46 | jelly | ws2k3: mind the typos |
| 11:42.58 | zealiod | CissWit: Will try - thanks |
| 11:43.04 | CissWit | but check the rule |
| 11:43.11 | CissWit | i'm not sure it's the exact syntax |
| 11:44.02 | zealiod | CissWit: yeah, taht's not worked |
| 11:44.26 | ws2k3 | jelly rofl |
| 11:44.30 | ws2k3 | ur command works |
| 11:44.41 | ws2k3 | at least in cli php |
| 11:44.41 | jelly | ws2k3: it's what the manual says to do. |
| 11:44.46 | ws2k3 | xD |
| 11:44.51 | jelly | ws2k3: did you read it? |
| 11:45.00 | ws2k3 | yeah i did |
| 11:45.02 | mjt | no, his function worked yesterday |
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| 11:45.10 | jelly | mjt: of course it did. |
| 11:45.16 | themill | mjt: on a different box... |
| 11:45.16 | ws2k3 | exacly that is what i'm trying to say |
| 11:45.27 | ws2k3 | the same box only reinstalled. |
| 11:45.32 | themill | same thing |
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| 11:45.37 | jelly | mjt: with a different MTA or a different configuration |
| 11:45.42 | jelly | "only reinstalled" |
| 11:45.44 | ws2k3 | different config |
| 11:45.48 | ws2k3 | same mta |
| 11:46.01 | ws2k3 | thats why i realy hate myself i didnt backup php.ini |
| 11:46.40 | ws2k3 | i also have set sendmail_from in php.ini |
| 11:46.55 | nsadmin | beating yourself up is offtopic :) |
| 11:47.05 | ws2k3 | very funny |
| 11:47.09 | linux_probe | lol |
| 11:47.33 | nsadmin | and unhealthy... |
| 11:48.15 | nsadmin | you reinstalled the nullmailer too tho, didn't you? |
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| 11:48.47 | ws2k3 | http://pastebin.com/FRKPBm22 |
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| 11:48.51 | ws2k3 | i reinstalled debian |
| 11:48.56 | ws2k3 | total clean install |
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| 11:49.40 | ws2k3 | so how should i configure this php.ini |
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| 11:49.42 | nsadmin | that part I didn't realize... didn't come up before when I was less tired :) |
| 11:49.43 | ws2k3 | to get it right |
| 11:50.16 | nsadmin | I think you do have it right, it's the configuration of nullmailer you have to redo |
| 11:50.38 | nsadmin | that thing about hostname being localhost also concerns me |
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| 11:50.54 | tobago | i try to set up a new name for my fresh debian. that is why i try to find the /etc/sysconfig/network as some in the www advised. but no sysconfig. |
| 11:51.04 | nsadmin | if the machine is directly facing internet, those things have to be done right |
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| 11:51.13 | mjt | /etc/sysconfig/network is redhatism |
| 11:51.21 | joltcan | tobago: network settings are in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:51.31 | tobago | i previous changed the /etc/hosts to 127.0.0.1 new_name localhost |
| 11:51.42 | ws2k3 | hmm |
| 11:51.44 | mjt | hostname is in /etc/hostname |
| 11:51.51 | phaidros | oops, what happened, php5-suhosin vanished froom wheezy ... o.O |
| 11:51.59 | ws2k3 | nsadmin on nullmailer there is allmost nothing to configure |
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| 11:52.10 | tobago | "hostname -f" returns the new_name |
| 11:52.43 | phaidros | ws2k3: hostname stuff can be important in mail issues, sometimes. check that "hostname" returns the short hostname and "hostname -f" the fqdn (name.domain.tld) |
| 11:53.35 | nsadmin | mjt, so /etc/hostname could contain freegamehosting.nl? |
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| 11:54.20 | phaidros | irc administrative: why is #debian-next invite only? |
| 11:54.28 | themill | phaidros: it's on irc.oftc.net |
| 11:54.41 | phaidros | themill: hm, in that case .. :) |
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| 11:55.01 | mjt | nsadmin: i don't think it is right, but something like "host.freegamehosting.nl" - just fine. Note there's also /etc/mailname |
| 11:55.04 | ws2k3 | the only thing i can configure on nullmailer is the remote |
| 11:55.40 | ws2k3 | i'm pretty sure i didnt change that on the previus system |
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| 11:55.49 | nsadmin | ws2k3, what's in /etc/mailname? |
| 11:55.56 | ws2k3 | localhost |
| 11:56.09 | ws2k3 | but i define a from in php |
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| 11:56.18 | nsadmin | ok, change it to freegamehosting.nl |
| 11:56.38 | nsadmin | and put the same thing in /etc/hostname |
| 11:56.43 | mjt | in my opinion a mail client should _always_ include complete sender address |
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| 11:56.55 | nsadmin | then, I would say, reboot |
| 11:56.58 | fasta | Is there an alternative to Calibre that works? |
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| 11:57.20 | nsadmin | let it come all the way up |
| 11:57.22 | ws2k3 | ok changed it |
| 11:57.27 | themill | dpkg: tell fasta about doesn't work |
| 11:57.28 | nsadmin | both? |
| 11:57.43 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 11:57.55 | themill | fasta: until you learn to start asking questions that actually have content and don't piss people off as soon as you hit enter, you're not going to get good help in #debian. |
| 11:57.56 | nsadmin | ok, reboot, let it come all the way back up |
| 11:58.09 | fasta | Calibre's GUI crashes and there are lots of other bugs. |
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| 11:58.47 | fasta | As such, the question is perfectly well defined: an ebook management solution which is stable (as in: does not crash and does what it is supposed to do). |
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| 11:58.50 | phaidros | fasta: thats not a question either :) for what kind of software are you looking? |
| 11:59.01 | phaidros | hm, k, you were first :) |
| 11:59.22 | themill | fasta: where "does what it is supposed to do" means what? and the crashes you describe are in which bug numbers? |
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| 11:59.39 | themill | fasta: there are lots of people who use this package ... it clearly works in some way. |
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| 11:59.44 | ws2k3 | nsadmin |
| 11:59.46 | ws2k3 | dont ask me why |
| 11:59.48 | ws2k3 | but it works |
| 11:59.50 | fasta | themill: sure, it works for some inputs, not all. |
| 11:59.53 | ws2k3 | the mail is up again |
| 12:00.01 | fasta | themill: that's the point of software; it has to work for all inputs. |
| 12:00.03 | themill | fasta: so the specific inputs it does not work on are ... |
| 12:00.09 | nsadmin | it was either mailname or hostname or both |
| 12:00.09 | phaidros | ws2k3: probably some hosts entry :) |
| 12:00.29 | fasta | themill: that would require time to figure out. |
| 12:00.33 | themill | fasta: please put yourself in our position and ask how on earth we'd go about answering your incredibly vague questions. |
| 12:00.36 | fasta | themill: I am asking for an alternative. |
| 12:00.39 | nsadmin | ok cool! |
| 12:00.41 | themill | dpkg: tell fasta about search |
| 12:00.49 | jargon- | !paste |
| 12:00.49 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 12:00.49 | fasta | themill: so, just assume that calibre doesn't work. |
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| 12:00.59 | jargon- | aah. .net! |
| 12:01.00 | nsadmin | so nullmailer must have pulled info from hostname |
| 12:01.17 | ws2k3 | yeah i think so |
| 12:01.24 | ws2k3 | nsadmin but can i now still use localhost ? |
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| 12:01.34 | Mkaysi | Is there any newer information about gnupg and update-alternatives than two years old "Won't fix" bug reports? |
| 12:01.38 | ws2k3 | nice that still works |
| 12:01.44 | nsadmin | you mean, will localhost still exist? yes |
| 12:02.08 | nsadmin | localhost can be defined in /etc/hosts |
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| 12:02.48 | nsadmin | and is actually served by interface called lo |
| 12:03.25 | ws2k3 | yeah i see it works |
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| 12:17.28 | s70rm | how can i get source code of a webpage? |
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| 12:20.09 | Repox | s70rm: Right click and select 'Show Source'. |
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| 12:22.40 | nsadmin | s70rmCV, of an active page? you can't get it all |
| 12:23.08 | nsadmin | like Repox says, you can get what the browser receives |
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| 12:24.20 | nsadmin | and, some of the code that contributes to what happens when you push buttons and links and stuff, lives on the server, runs on the server and never gets to the browser |
| 12:25.09 | hid3 | Hello everyone. I need to clone a working debian system to another physical disk. I've prepared and formatted the disk, mounted it to /mnt. Then I did cd / && rsync -aqxt . /mnt . Then I replaced boot=/dev/sdb (the 2nd disk) in my lilo.conf and re-ran `lilo`. |
| 12:25.13 | hid3 | Everything went nice. I powered off the system, removed the old/original disk and tried to boot from the new one, the clone. LILO worked fine, however, the system didn't boot (it hangs on 'freeing unused kernel memory ..' message. The original disk boots okay. Any ideas what may be wrong? |
| 12:25.29 | ws2k3 | thx for all help people |
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| 12:25.54 | nsadmin | welcome. it took us long enough :P |
| 12:26.15 | nsadmin | my idea only came when you said you did a clean reinstall |
| 12:26.29 | hid3 | Oh, and both disks use xfs filesystem, if that matters... |
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| 12:26.57 | nsadmin | hid3: how many partitions? |
| 12:27.22 | hid3 | nsadmin: one. One on the original disk, one on the clone |
| 12:27.37 | hid3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.03 | nsadmin | ok, well, first, you're advised to go to single user mode (reboot, select the maintainance mode) |
| 12:28.14 | nsadmin | then run this: |
| 12:28.31 | hid3 | that does not help. It hangs at the same message and doesn't give me the console/shell prompt |
| 12:28.48 | hid3 | linux single init=/bin/bash <-- this one is the only which works |
| 12:28.49 | ws2k3 | how should i install mod_rewrite ? |
| 12:29.11 | nsadmin | maintaince mode doesn't work? |
| 12:29.15 | hid3 | nope |
| 12:29.32 | hid3 | (it's LILO eitherway, so no 'maintenance mode' here but I understand what you mean) |
| 12:29.44 | nsadmin | ohh, you don't use grub? |
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| 12:30.13 | hid3 | no, because of a bug in the server itself (when I tried to switch to grub it crashed the system. BIOS bug) |
| 12:30.27 | nsadmin | anyway... |
| 12:31.00 | nsadmin | you would do this: |
| 12:31.22 | ws2k3 | nsadmin how should i install mod_rewrite for apache2 ? |
| 12:31.30 | nsadmin | do that thing that works for you to get to single user mode |
| 12:31.40 | hid3 | yeah, and what's next? |
| 12:31.51 | nsadmin | ws2k3, find it first... apt-cache search mod_rewrite |
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| 12:32.16 | nsadmin | hid3, mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
| 12:32.17 | jomofcw | simonlnu back. Thanks for the tips. But it just stop there : http://www.pastie.org/3726658 :/ |
| 12:32.18 | hid3 | (I've sucessfully re-ran `lilo` in single user mode with once, the new, disk in the system but that didn't help either) |
| 12:32.27 | ws2k3 | it already fixed |
| 12:32.30 | ws2k3 | it was as easy as a2enmod rewrite |
| 12:32.32 | ws2k3 | done |
| 12:32.35 | symen | hmmm |
| 12:32.42 | nsadmin | then do this cryptical lokking thing |
| 12:32.46 | hid3 | nsadmin: it became /dev/sda when I removed the old disk, but I understand what you say. |
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| 12:33.01 | nsadmin | don't remove it :) |
| 12:33.04 | Nurbs | When enabling libpam-systemd in common-session-noninteractive (which seems to be done automatically with 44-1) my sudo always returns with exit code 143. I can't see any obvious error with strace or ltrace or find a related bug. Any ideas before debugging further and opening a bug report? |
| 12:33.20 | hid3 | what's cryptical lokking? |
| 12:33.42 | nsadmin | wait, first, what's this deal about removiing the drive? |
| 12:33.50 | themill | Nurbs: there was another report of that earlier today -- reverting to an older systemd solved it |
| 12:34.11 | hid3 | I want to migrate to a newer/bigger disk. 73 GB -> 300 GB |
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| 12:34.33 | nsadmin | ok, so both drives should be in the machine when you reboot |
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| 12:34.41 | hid3 | yeah, got it. |
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| 12:35.08 | nsadmin | and, I'm assuming the original on the 73g is sda and the blank is sdb |
| 12:35.13 | hid3 | yes |
| 12:35.16 | hid3 | that's right |
| 12:35.22 | nsadmin | if you find it different when you boot adjust accordingly |
| 12:35.37 | Nurbs | themill: I see. I've only tried reverting to experimental's 43-1 which didn't seem to include libpam-systemd in common-session-noninteractive anyway (I imagine <43-1 didn't either), so that'd solve it as well as disabling it through pam-auth-config |
| 12:35.38 | hid3 | no, it's okay how you assumed |
| 12:35.38 | themill | !dbugs 667470 |
| 12:35.42 | dpkg | #667470:G[libpam-systemd] systemd: breaks sudo (); Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:45:01 UTC [] |
| 12:36.03 | nsadmin | ok, right after you reboot you mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
| 12:36.06 | jelly | or is sudo broken on its own?!?!?! |
| 12:36.11 | themill | Nurbs: ^^ there might be more information there -- and perhaps you can provide more info to that bug |
| 12:36.21 | nsadmin | then the cryptic thing is a tar stream: |
| 12:36.59 | nsadmin | ( cd / ; tar cfpl - . ) | ( cd /mnt ; tar xfp - ) |
| 12:37.59 | nsadmin | actually you might have to change the first tar to look like this |
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| 12:38.18 | nsadmin | ( cd / ; tar --one-file-system cfp - . ) | ( cd /mnt ; tar xfp - ) |
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| 12:38.52 | hid3 | nsadmin: got it. What's after that? |
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| 12:39.35 | Nurbs | themill: I see. Different issue, shouldn't this bug report be visible at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=libpam-systemd too? |
| 12:40.18 | nsadmin | then you will have copied the system, you just have to install grub or lilo on the new drive, remove the old and try booting |
| 12:40.30 | nsadmin | maybe you would have to use a rescue cd |
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| 12:40.39 | nsadmin | to install the boot loader |
| 12:41.14 | nsadmin | this is a machine you have right there in the room right? |
| 12:41.40 | hid3 | okay. In fact I did the same with rsync. But the problem is that the 'new' system starts booting corectly but hangs just before entering the correct runlevel. Not sure what's the problem is... |
| 12:41.55 | hid3 | nsadmin: unfortunately no, it's a remote one and I'll need to go there in the evening |
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| 12:42.24 | hid3 | LILO boots okay from the new disk. Problem is somewhere deeper :( |
| 12:42.47 | nsadmin | hmm. I should have asked you if it was remote... how remote is it? |
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| 12:43.04 | cyberbob | we can connect to remote mysql server using mysql -u db-user -h db-server -p but the server is hosting many databases and i need to login to check if a user "a" has access to the db "A" how can i do that |
| 12:43.27 | hid3 | 10 miles away. but that's not an issue. It's a production server so 1) I can't just poweroff it in the middle of the day 2) It can't stay offline for long |
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| 12:44.01 | nsadmin | how's it now? running? |
| 12:44.21 | nsadmin | and when you say production... is this for a client? |
| 12:44.27 | hid3 | yes, but on the old disk (73 gb). The space has almost ran out, a few gigabytes left. |
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| 12:44.32 | abrotman | does it matter? it's production |
| 12:44.35 | hid3 | Yes, it's for ~300-400 customers |
| 12:44.39 | kripz | with compiz, what is <primary key> ? |
| 12:45.01 | nsadmin | ok, in that case you ought to -schedule- this downtime |
| 12:45.42 | nsadmin | abrotman, wanted to see what he meant... and he definitely meant it |
| 12:46.02 | abrotman | production is production .. doesn't matter if it's for a client or him or 1 client or 1000 clients |
| 12:46.06 | nsadmin | one man's production is another man's chewy toy |
| 12:46.15 | abrotman | apparently in your screwed up world it is .. |
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| 12:46.29 | jomofcw | Trying to do the mysql reset pass process it stop too at the "middle" :/... http://www.pastie.org/3726733 |
| 12:46.43 | nsadmin | if it's just him, then the scheduling could have been more flexible |
| 12:46.55 | abrotman | not if it's production |
| 12:46.56 | hid3 | nsadmin: well, we will schedule it. But we need to solve the problem.... |
| 12:47.05 | hid3 | cause I need to return the old disk |
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| 12:47.15 | hid3 | and have the system running on the new one. |
| 12:47.29 | nsadmin | well then you have to prioritize and have conversatioms |
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| 12:48.07 | themill | jomofcw: looks fine so far |
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| 12:48.08 | nsadmin | one thing you could do temporarily is have both drives going, boot from sda and mount root off sdb |
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| 12:48.21 | indigo | is there a howto on packaging kernel modules somewhere? |
| 12:48.22 | hid3 | okay. The only problem I have now is the system hanging at boot time from new disk. Dies at 'freeing unused kernel memory'. Everything else is okay |
| 12:49.00 | nsadmin | isn't that right after loading the initrd? |
| 12:49.23 | hid3 | It's a custom kernel, no initrd image. Still, it works perfectly on the original drive.... |
| 12:50.04 | cantido | use the kernel gdb server ;) |
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| 12:52.16 | vdonnef | What's the difference between dpatch & quilt? which one is the best way to deal with patch? |
| 12:52.23 | nsadmin | hid3, can you talk to the people you're borrowing the drive from? |
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| 12:52.38 | hid3 | nsadmin: yes. they said to hurry up. |
| 12:53.24 | themill | vdonnef: for debian packaging or for random patching of sources? |
| 12:53.42 | vdonnef | debian |
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| 12:54.05 | Sevet | indigo: look at dkms and its mkdeb option |
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| 12:54.20 | nsadmin | abrotman, is there some kind of way to run a d-i and fool it into skipping the install steps but perform the kernel install and boot loader? |
| 12:54.21 | vdonnef | themill : debian |
| 12:54.53 | themill | vdonnef: then quilt with the debsrc3.0 format "3.0 (quilt)" would generally be the best plan |
| 12:55.25 | nsadmin | hid3 what version of debian is this? |
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| 12:55.38 | hid3 | nsadmin: squeeze |
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| 12:55.50 | jomofcw | OK so now I have change my Squeeze PMA root password for DB access. But when I try to access "http://localhost/phpmyadmin/setup/index.php" it ask me for a login (like an htpasswd) that I don't know... How can I define it please ? |
| 12:55.57 | vdonnef | themill: ok thank you, because I use quilt and i wanted to know if dpatch has an advantage ;) |
| 12:56.08 | nsadmin | what happens when you try installing one of the canned kernels? |
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| 12:56.48 | hid3 | Not sure, haven't tried that. I need some specific features the generic kernel does not have |
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| 12:56.58 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 12:57.23 | nsadmin | are you using make-kpkg to build the kernel after you set it up? |
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| 12:57.47 | hid3 | no, I just do 'make install' when I have finished compiling it |
| 12:57.57 | nsadmin | wait, if there's no initrd, then the disk controllers on the two drives should both be supported |
| 12:58.18 | hid3 | They are built in statically ( no module, etc, statically) |
| 12:58.23 | hid3 | filesystems also |
| 12:58.29 | hid3 | everything is static |
| 12:58.32 | nsadmin | they'd have to be :) |
| 12:59.12 | nsadmin | I'm thinking that the way debian installs a boot loader may or may not work with your setup |
| 12:59.41 | nsadmin | maybe for now you should use generic instructions for installing lilo |
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| 13:00.37 | nsadmin | there are just too many things you're doing differently and which involve the disks, the kernel and booting |
| 13:00.40 | KaiSVK | hi all, today I installed testing and the kernel still gives me its panic :) does anyone know it this is a know bug ? I googled up some archuser discussing this pcie_something kernel bug... |
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| 13:01.03 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 13:01.23 | nsadmin | you'll need a running environment, you can use most live cds that support your disk controllers |
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| 13:01.59 | nsadmin | you don't have to avoid debian ones, but the lilo package might not work (or exist :) |
| 13:02.02 | tosmo | i try to substitute some libraries with older versions by using LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/mylibs:$LD_... my.bin. but the loader won't use libs from /mylibs unless they are named libname.so.most-recent-version-on-system. i'd rather like it to accept libname.so, so that i can actually point it at the particular older version i need |
| 13:02.22 | hid3 | well, as mentioned, grub is problematic for the server itself (BIOS bug) |
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| 13:03.13 | jomofcw | OK so now I have change my Squeeze PMA root password for DB access. But when I try to access "http://localhost/phpmyadmin/setup/index.php" it ask me for a login (like an htpasswd) that I don't know... How can I define it please ? |
| 13:03.23 | nsadmin | so, continue to use lilo... and, you won't be able to install kernels built into debian packages until you unravel some of this |
| 13:03.41 | hp | samba version is 3.6.3 |
| 13:03.41 | hp | . it is accessible via netbios name, but not the IP address like \\192.168.2.100 |
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| 13:04.08 | hp | how to config so that I can access the samba server via IP addres |
| 13:04.42 | nsadmin | and not only can I not go over the details with you, but also you may have to come up with a specific plan. the most solid thing I've said to you is the tar stream thing |
| 13:05.12 | nsadmin | are these scsi disks? |
| 13:05.27 | KaiSVK | please anyone know about that kernel bug in the testing ? |
| 13:05.30 | hid3 | yes, pure scsi |
| 13:05.42 | nsadmin | I had a feeling they were |
| 13:05.54 | nsadmin | on two different controllers? |
| 13:06.00 | hid3 | no, on the same |
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| 13:09.11 | jomofcw | Please, help again :D ! Now, I have change my Squeeze MySQL root password for DB access. But when I try to access "http://localhost/phpmyadmin/setup/index.php" it ask me for a login (like an htpasswd) that I don't know... How can I define it please ? |
| 13:09.42 | nsadmin | a lot of people are going to say this whole thing about how your kernel is and how lilo is different from debian, they might say it's off topic... my opinion differs somewhat since I want you to be successful here;;; having said that, it's hard to know what's going to work for you |
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| 13:10.04 | babilen | !tell jomofcw -about phpmyadmin |
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| 13:10.24 | babilen | jomofcw: I assume that you might have to run "dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin" -- But read README.Debian first. Was it ever working? |
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| 13:10.47 | jomofcw | Trying, thanks. |
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| 13:12.07 | nsadmin | hid3, what if you schedule this, you can't get to it and have to return one of the drives? |
| 13:12.46 | hid3 | nsadmin: this scenario is simply impossible. I need that done either way. |
| 13:13.29 | nsadmin | ok, so you're in rock-in-a-hard-place land |
| 13:14.00 | nsadmin | I think you can still use the kernel you have, for one thing |
| 13:14.14 | jomofcw | I just reconfigure my PMA. But I still can't access "http://localhost/phpmyadmin/setup/index.php" with the login I just reconfigure... probably not so important |
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| 13:16.11 | nsadmin | hid3, I get to wondering tho, whether the kernel is "missing" something that grub needs, like a particular filesystem type |
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| 13:16.33 | nsadmin | maybe even, it can't open the initramfses |
| 13:16.35 | zmitya | hi gents.. which bot are you using for "debhelper" ? |
| 13:16.52 | hid3 | nsadmin: not sure. Doubt it. Still, the only thing I need is identical system copy running. No hassles about switching to different boot loader, etc |
| 13:17.17 | nsadmin | in that case... |
| 13:17.32 | jelly | can time go backwards on physical machines with ntpd? I have a cron job at "0 0 * * * ..." that runs "yest=$(date -d'1 days ago' +%Y-%m-%d)" and it got the same date two days in a row |
| 13:17.58 | petern_ | if its clock is fast, it could be adjusted backwards |
| 13:18.38 | jelly | should ntpd not make sure it is only monotonically increasing? |
| 13:18.46 | nsadmin | would you be open to starting over, making the partition the exact same size as on the 73g, copy by using dd and maybe lilo will work |
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| 13:19.23 | nsadmin | once you get the big drive situatted, try rebooting without the little drive |
| 13:19.53 | nsadmin | if that works, expand the size of the partition and then expand the size of the filesystem |
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| 13:20.44 | symen | you learn a lot just by lurking in this channel a bit |
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| 13:21.22 | nsadmin | but, I dont think doing a lot of experimenting is appropriate given the purpose of the machine |
| 13:21.26 | hid3 | nsadmin: dd is bad and evil for this purpose |
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| 13:22.39 | nsadmin | do you have a tiny ata drive you could throw in there? |
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| 13:24.20 | anticom | hi all |
| 13:24.26 | anticom | is there any gui for cron tab management? |
| 13:24.41 | anticom | could be web based or gnome |
| 13:25.07 | nkuttler | you need a gui to input text data? :| |
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| 13:25.33 | anticom | nkuttler i'm a typical windows user and used to fancy click interfaces ;) |
| 13:26.04 | colo-work | KDE used to have that in the 3.x series. |
| 13:26.10 | symen | anticom: http://webmin.com/ does that and more |
| 13:26.13 | colo-work | I guess someone eventually noticed what a dumb idea that was. |
| 13:26.21 | nkuttler | anticom: a quick apt search points to gnome-schedule |
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| 13:26.33 | nkuttler | symen: please don't recommend webmin |
| 13:26.55 | nkuttler | anticom: but you really want to use crontab (1) |
| 13:27.06 | Woet | nkuttler: and why not to recommend webmin? |
| 13:27.09 | nsadmin | it may look good... but some pieces don't work well, some really badly |
| 13:27.15 | nkuttler | !tell Woet about webmin |
| 13:27.17 | anticom | nkuttler yep |
| 13:27.39 | Woet | nkuttler: yes, it's of poor quality - still perfectly usable |
| 13:28.12 | nkuttler | Woet: just because it's usable doesn't mean it's supported here. it's not even in debian... |
| 13:28.16 | cantido | if you need webmin to manage cron.. maybe you should pay someone? |
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| 13:28.31 | Woet | nkuttler: symen is recommending, not supporting. |
| 13:28.35 | nkuttler | and i would dispute the usable part anyway |
| 13:28.43 | abrotman | nsadmin: did you get an answer > |
| 13:28.45 | abrotman | ? |
| 13:28.57 | Woet | nkuttler: everything I've ever done with it works |
| 13:28.58 | nkuttler | Woet: yeah, and this is a support channel. not a recommend random software place |
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| 13:29.08 | symen | to be honest, i would really recommend anticom to properly config a linux machine by learning the tools, but i think he tried already and gave up |
| 13:29.25 | Woet | nkuttler: anticom asks for a gui for crontabs and symen recommended it, that you personally dislike webmin is not relevant. |
| 13:29.56 | anticom | sysmen it's not about me using it |
| 13:30.07 | anticom | i need an interface everyone with access can maintain |
| 13:30.08 | nkuttler | Woet: it's relevant that webmin is not in debian |
| 13:30.20 | mashed | Given this is the debian support channel, and debian doesn't supprt webmin please go to #webmin and discuss it there |
| 13:30.58 | symen | mashed: is this Debian, inc.? |
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| 13:31.05 | symen | or is this a community? |
| 13:31.24 | babilen | !tell anticom about free whcp |
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| 13:32.21 | anticom | babilen how to intall? |
| 13:32.21 | Woet | symen: it's not been a community for a long, long time. |
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| 13:32.38 | mashed | symen: sorry to sound assy but webmin has been unanimously shunned by 90% of the community |
| 13:32.40 | nkuttler | !ot |
| 13:32.40 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 13:33.22 | symen | mashed: I understand. my personal experiences with webmin were not so awful |
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| 13:34.04 | nsadmin | hid3, this is kinda all I have for you... |
| 13:34.16 | symen | but eventually you will hit a wall and are forced to learn to properly configure a system through config files. |
| 13:35.00 | nsadmin | you may also need to consider a paid consultant who really knows the details of what needs to be done |
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| 13:35.27 | babilen | anticom: How to in(s)tall what exactly? |
| 13:35.58 | anticom | babilen what i've asked for :D sorry, i'm quite newbie when it comes to linux |
| 13:36.34 | nkuttler | anticom: just curious, but why do you think you need a cron job? |
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| 13:37.19 | anticom | nkuttler scheduling php scripts |
| 13:37.55 | babilen | anticom: You should have received a private message from our bot (dpkg) that lists a number of free web hosting control panels. You can ask the bot about each of them and I would also recommend to read the wiki page. All of these programs should be in Debian. (i.e. you just have to install the respective package) |
| 13:38.05 | nkuttler | anticom: in my experience those scripts usually comme with examples you can copy + paste into the crontab. that should make it very easy |
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| 13:38.19 | cantido | everything you need to know about crontabs is listed in the top of the defailt crontab :~ |
| 13:38.36 | anticom | nkuttler what scripts? i'm talking about stuff i write myself |
| 13:38.55 | anticom | i'm an software engineer but i'm deffo no server admin |
| 13:39.26 | cantido | PHP is called software engineering these days? |
| 13:39.29 | nkuttler | anticom: what cantido said. just type crontab -e, which should default to vim afaik |
| 13:39.38 | nkuttler | :| |
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| 13:40.20 | symen | cantido: how is software engineering only related to certain programming languages? |
| 13:40.48 | nkuttler | engineering kinda implies complexity |
| 13:40.50 | cantido | symen: scripting isnt really software engineering |
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| 13:41.00 | colo-work | bullshit. |
| 13:41.04 | cantido | symen: putting together someone elses parts isnt engineering something |
| 13:41.09 | symen | what is scripting? |
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| 13:41.20 | colo-work | you've trapped yourself in a can of worms. |
| 13:41.28 | colo-work | I won't let you out. ;) |
| 13:41.35 | cantido | symen: construction |
| 13:41.58 | symen | cantido: So is .net programming also scripting? |
| 13:42.04 | colo-work | where do you draw the line? your compiler, your standard library, your high level programming language, your assembler, your processor's instruction set. |
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| 13:42.10 | colo-work | all the works and components of other people |
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| 13:42.12 | themill | sends the language war to #debian-offtopic |
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| 13:42.51 | cantido | colo-work: you can write your own datastructures etc in C, thats engineering.. you could do it in bash shell script if you wanted.. but most people dont |
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| 13:43.27 | colo-work | writing your own data structures in C is a sign of NIH and a very special case of stupidity, not "engineering". |
| 13:43.40 | colo-work | reinventing the wheel for the billionth time is not "engineering". |
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| 13:44.00 | cantido | colo-work: what if you want stuff that uses NEON or something on ARM? |
| 13:44.23 | themill | cantido, colo-work: please move on |
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| 13:44.54 | cantido | well, anyhow, dont write system scripts in php |
| 13:45.09 | colo-work | I'll conclude this with: don't write anything in PHP. :) |
| 13:45.30 | colo-work | (except for, maybe, a PHP uninstaller. that'd be a very useful PHP program.) |
| 13:45.33 | symen | My next CRUD web app will be built in C, indeed. |
| 13:45.39 | cantido | colo-work: php works fine for what it is |
| 13:45.50 | mashed | takes cover |
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| 13:47.32 | mashed | What is the successor to php then? Python / Ruby / Java? |
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| 13:47.48 | dekatch | can i have a group cload? or where to ask for debian cloak? or is there somewhere OpenSourceMatters Group? |
| 13:48.10 | jelly | dekatch: are you a debian developer or debian maintainer? |
| 13:48.23 | cantido | mashed: PHP is suited for web apps, text generation etc.. why does there need to be a next to everything? ;) |
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| 13:48.32 | babilen | mashed, colo-work, cantido: Take it elsewhere. This is hardly a Debian support issue and therefore quite off-topic in here. |
| 13:48.34 | dekatch | this is really offtopic, but no i want just to join the group as fan |
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| 13:49.10 | cantido | buys babilen some slacker underwear |
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| 13:49.38 | indigo | Sevet: so hm...i think i've dkms set up properly, but then dkms build fails, and tells me to check make.log, and i'm not seeing the problem. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/2Tng2dNA |
| 13:49.43 | babilen | dekatch: Cloaks are rarely used by members of the Debian project and are not available for non-developers. |
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| 13:50.22 | cantido | indigo: what does the log it's telling you to check say? |
| 13:50.31 | indigo | cantido: it's in the paste |
| 13:50.41 | dekatch | unfortunately! i really would like to have OpenSourceMatters cloak :( nevermind |
| 13:50.41 | indigo | cantido: catted, at the end |
| 13:50.43 | cantido | indigo: oh yeah, sorry |
| 13:51.26 | cantido | seems it just builds nothing. :/ |
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| 13:53.02 | karont | hi |
| 13:53.21 | indigo | cantido: yeah... |
| 13:53.57 | indigo | cantido: i guess i'm wondering why it's entering the headers directory, and what it's doing in there. Seems to be entirely the wrong place, since there actually isn't any source code there. |
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| 13:54.28 | cantido | not sure, I have zero idea how dkms/kbuild works anymore despite maintaining an out of tree module |
| 13:54.32 | cantido | does a worried face |
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| 13:56.05 | indigo | cantido: well, any other suggestions on how i can manage atto's SAS driver on debian? |
| 13:56.39 | indigo | i just want some way to automate the build and deployment of it...hopefully something less fragile than a shell script. |
| 13:57.01 | cantido | indigo: is that packaged with all the nice dkms stuff in debian? |
| 13:57.07 | cantido | or is this from somewhere else? |
| 13:57.19 | indigo | cantido: it's from atto |
| 13:57.52 | indigo | cantido: ostensibly it's not supported on debian, but really it's just a simple directory with source code that has nothing specific to their supported platforms, rh and suse. |
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| 13:58.23 | cantido | yeah, what I remember of kbuild you only really have the source for the module and thats it |
| 13:58.30 | cantido | just refreshing myself on how it works.. |
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| 13:59.17 | themill | dpkg: tell icecdocorp about root |
| 13:59.50 | cantido | indigo: the module I built a long long time ago but still seems to work has a KBuild file and then a Makefile that does the right things using the running kernels headers.. is there anything like that in theirs? |
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| 14:00.55 | indigo | cantido: i don't know what a kbuild file is, but it does have a Makefile that I have used to successfully build it manually, after a minor patch. |
| 14:01.14 | indigo | cantido: notably the Makefile is in src/ though, and the top level Makefile just prints an error. |
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| 14:01.41 | cantido | the kbuild file just has the objects that should be turning into .ko's |
| 14:02.09 | cantido | indigo: if you cant get dkms working.. maybe adjust the makefile to find the right kernel headers with uname |
| 14:02.23 | cantido | that would make it more automated at least |
| 14:02.28 | indigo | cantido: i don't see anything like that. There's just the Makefile, some README, and some C source and headers. |
| 14:03.33 | indigo | cantido: yeah, i'm worried about kernel updates breaking it though. It sounded like dkms would rebuild it if my kernel changes, or something. Also, putting the resulting build in a deb for deployment would be nifty |
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| 14:04.15 | cantido | yeah thats the idea.. can you paste the makefile somewhere? |
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| 14:06.19 | 31NAA4R3U | help! dpkg-architecture -l returns empty list |
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| 14:06.41 | indigo | cantido: the source is here: http://www.attotech.com/software/files/drivers/lnx_drv_esashba_131.tgz |
| 14:06.50 | wintix | is there a 16TB limit for a ext4 device? somehow i cannot manage to get ext4 on a 18TB device. |
| 14:06.52 | indigo | the makefile is kinda big |
| 14:06.58 | mjt | 31NAA4R3U: bash: dpkg-architecture: command not found |
| 14:07.01 | cantido | wips out wget |
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| 14:07.13 | mjt | :) |
| 14:07.40 | 31NAA4R3U | have I missed to install something? |
| 14:07.59 | 31NAA4R3U | why is dpkg-architecture not working? |
| 14:08.19 | thewanderer1 | wintix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 look at the right panel |
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| 14:08.36 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 14:08.37 | symen | wintix: that's a nice storage medium you've got there |
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| 14:08.52 | jow | what should normally reside in /usr/include? |
| 14:09.05 | wintix | symen: not really. just a raid6 with some 2tb drives. nothing uncommon :) |
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| 14:09.37 | cantido | jow: libc includes, any -dev packages you have installed |
| 14:09.46 | cantido | indigo: that make file is crazy |
| 14:10.08 | wintix | thewanderer1: yes, i know. but it fails on a practical level. mkfs.ext4 -F /dev/cciss/c0d1p1 -> mkfs.ext4: Size of device /dev/cciss/c0d1p1 too big to be expressed in 32 bits using a blocksize of 4096. |
| 14:10.10 | jow | thx. |
| 14:10.14 | Posterdati | is it legal to add debian logo to a brochure for publicity purpose? |
| 14:10.36 | indigo | cantido: yes. it's also interesting how the tarball has permissions that don't allow you to read the files... |
| 14:10.44 | wintix | thewanderer1: at the same time man mkfs.ext4 says " Valid block-size values are 1024, 2048 and 4096 bytes per block." |
| 14:10.47 | thewanderer1 | wintix: well, why is it supposed to be 32 bits? are you on i386? also, is this Linux? |
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| 14:11.21 | wintix | thewanderer1: it's a 64bit squeeze system |
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| 14:11.26 | cantido | indigo: yeah, very weird stuff.. I'm not sure how you would get this working with dkms.. |
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| 14:12.06 | wintix | thewanderer1: i tried several other blocksizes but the kernel throws an error message like "EXT4-fs (cciss!c0d1p1): bad block size 65536" |
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| 14:12.44 | cantido | indigo: I was going to say maybe you could use the kernel post install hook (I think such a thing exists) to cause a build.. you would need to rework the bits where its trying to work out the running kernel and feed it the just installed kernel |
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| 14:12.58 | thewanderer1 | wintix: e2fsprofs is too old, you need a newer version, according to http://blog.ronnyegner-consulting.de/2011/08/18/ext4-and-the-16-tb-limit-now-solved/ |
| 14:13.04 | sephii | Posterdati: http://www.debian.org/logos/ |
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| 14:13.37 | cantido | wishes he had to worry about a 16TB limit :( |
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| 14:14.16 | wintix | thewanderer1: thanks for the link. think i will be sticking with xfs then. |
| 14:14.21 | indigo | cantido: maybe the better solution is to find a SAS adapter that's in the debian kernel :( |
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| 14:14.40 | Posterdati | sephii: I used http://www.debian.org/banners/ |
| 14:14.51 | Posterdati | sephii: not the official logos |
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| 14:15.29 | jelly | cantido: you'd use xfs instead anyway |
| 14:15.30 | cantido | indigo: I'm sure you could get it working, it's whether or not its worth the time/effort |
| 14:16.01 | cantido | has a mix of xfs, ext3, ext4, fat |
| 14:16.17 | sephii | Posterdati: so I guess it depends on the license they're published as. I guess these are GPL'ed or something like that but you might want to ask the author |
| 14:16.36 | Posterdati | ok |
| 14:16.40 | Posterdati | sephii: thanks |
| 14:16.47 | cantido | I thought the logos were unified so that you can use the normal logo for stuff like that now |
| 14:16.54 | cantido | there used to be two logos IIRC |
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| 14:17.18 | cantido | remembers a crappy bottle with the debian logo wedged in the top |
| 14:17.43 | indigo | http://www.debian.org/logos/ |
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| 14:18.48 | cantido | the row of "debian buttons" at the bottom needs an animated gif |
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| 14:23.03 | passstab | wait isn't locked branding the reason for iceweasel? |
| 14:23.36 | cantido | firefox dont want their trademarks etc on "forks" |
| 14:24.20 | passstab | hmm |
| 14:25.03 | passstab | i get it |
| 14:25.32 | dvs | Mozilla insists that it can only be called Firefox if it is at the latest version. |
| 14:25.45 | cantido | passstab: opensource is very anal these days |
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| 14:26.05 | passstab | is the locked debian logo anywhere in debian? |
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| 14:26.15 | passstab | i'v never seen it before |
| 14:27.33 | cantido | you have to be a DD to use it apparently.. maybe they put it on business cards to impress chicks |
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| 14:27.50 | cantido | "bet you've never seen this version of the debian logo eh?" |
| 14:28.12 | indigo | why are the linux headers on my system split between /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-xen/ and linux-headers-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64/? Is there something that puts them together so that 3rd party things that expect a normal linux source tree can build? |
| 14:28.46 | sephii | snap snap, grin grin, say no more! |
| 14:28.59 | cantido | indigo: there are packages for the complete source tree |
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| 14:30.10 | indigo | cantido: as it turns out, the headers are complete enough, but i have to modify that makefile to look in two places, since linux-headers-`uname -r` doesn't have the scsi includes, but common-xen does. |
| 14:30.15 | passstab | on a condom :D |
| 14:30.42 | cantido | thats not the debian logo commin out of the bottle baby |
| 14:31.25 | boudiccas | passstab, please take your toilet humour elsewhere, like in #debian-offtopic |
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| 14:31.39 | babilen | cantido: Please refrain from sexist remarks like that and keep it professional in here. |
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| 14:32.46 | cantido | babilen: seriously, you are a mental kill joy, all you see to do here all day is be anal |
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| 14:33.46 | cantido | indigo: how much was another card again? ;) |
| 14:34.00 | themill | cantido: this is a working channel -- social activity is in other channels. Please keep it that way for all our sakes. |
| 14:34.05 | indigo | cantido: not in the budget, unfortunately :( |
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| 14:34.22 | tobago | i installed a debian. i edited the /etc/hosts to: "127.0.0.1 new_name localhost", but beeing on that server by ssh it tells me: "tobago@localhost:~$" instead of "tobago@new_name:~$" |
| 14:34.29 | indigo | cantido: though...where would i go to get suggestions for cards that would work? |
| 14:35.06 | dvs | tobago: I think that more has to do with /etc/hostname |
| 14:35.08 | cantido | indigo: something that is in the mainline would be easiest if such a thing exists |
| 14:35.10 | floh` | tobago: you want /etc/hostname |
| 14:35.13 | themill | dpkg: tell tobago about hostname |
| 14:35.23 | floh` | tobago: well, actually you want both. |
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| 14:36.10 | cantido | themill: fare enough, but if all a single person does is say "stop doing that, don't do that, I'm a DD don't you know".. that isnt actually helping anyone |
| 14:36.29 | floh` | how can i find out all differences to a "stock" debian system (especially /etc, but also /usr), ideally without having to install an identical system? |
| 14:36.39 | indigo | cantido: yeah, i'm not entirely sure it does. Documentation is pretty scant. |
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| 14:37.08 | themill | cantido: that's not true on several points but it's not helping anyone to continue this conversation here |
| 14:37.18 | floh` | my lengthy-and-dirty solution would be: setup a chroot, install all the packages i have installed now, then diff -r |
| 14:37.28 | cantido | indigo: just a sec,.. you said just running make built working module right? |
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| 14:37.34 | tobago | floh`: mmh. it still is named: "tobago@localhost:~$" |
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| 14:37.48 | floh` | tobago: restart your shell. maybe restart even more (?) |
| 14:38.01 | floh` | oh wait you're sshing right? |
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| 14:38.26 | floh` | maybe restarting ssh helps? maybe you need to restart ssh from a shell which correctly displays the @new_name already (?) |
| 14:39.54 | indigo | cantido: if i symlink /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-xen to /usr/src/linux, yes. I'm trying to understand why the kernel headers are in two places, so i can avoid all this hackery |
| 14:40.50 | cantido | sees indigo ending up rewriting that driver :@ |
| 14:41.18 | tobago | floh`: right. i'm on that debian by ssh. i exited the ssh session and quit the shell. then sshed onto the debian again but still: "tobago@localhost:~$" |
| 14:41.53 | floh` | tobago: as i said, you might need to restart sshd. |
| 14:42.03 | tobago | ah o.k. the deamon... |
| 14:42.06 | floh` | that is, not reconnect, but stop and start the ssh-server process |
| 14:42.09 | floh` | yup ;) |
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| 14:44.09 | babilen | tobago: I wonder if http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_hostname_resolution and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=316099 is relevant for you. What does "hostname ; hostname -f" give you? Could you paste your /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts file to http://paste.debian.net please? |
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| 14:44.55 | tobago | babilen: "hostname -f" resturns the expected "new_name" |
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| 14:45.23 | tobago | i also restarted the deamon by sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 14:45.30 | tobago | and still the same localhost thingie. |
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| 14:46.15 | babilen | tobago: And "new_name" is *not* a FQDN? Could you please paste those files? (anonymise them if necessary/wanted) |
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| 14:49.04 | tobago | babilen: https://gist.github.com/2302078 |
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| 14:49.51 | themill | tobago: other than changing /etc/hostname, did you also change the hostname with the command "hostname" as dpkg suggested? |
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| 14:56.14 | babilen | tobago: Shouldn't that be "127.0.0.1 localhost\n127.0.1.1 tobago" ? Did you use "hostname" to set the hostname in addition to changing it in /etc/hostname? Did you reboot? |
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| 14:59.58 | rndmz | i need help with my Tty D: |
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| 15:01.11 | rndmz | someone there? |
| 15:01.19 | babilen | !ask |
| 15:01.19 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 15:02.10 | rndmz | derp |
| 15:02.21 | rndmz | I have a problem with Tty |
| 15:02.24 | rndmz | D: |
| 15:02.41 | rndmz | !ask i have a problem with tt7 |
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| 15:04.04 | themill | rndmz: just ask your actual question... what dpkg said makes a good template for you to fill in. |
| 15:04.08 | flower | u should specify ur problem, not senceless phrases like the one u gave, rndmz ;) |
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| 15:04.15 | cento | "just ask" means "follow the example" |
| 15:04.19 | cento | lol |
| 15:04.23 | rndmz | I've bad resolution on all my Tty, that's my problem |
| 15:04.39 | cento | rndmz, have you enabled fb? |
| 15:04.47 | rndmz | fb? |
| 15:04.51 | cento | framebuffer |
| 15:04.56 | rndmz | humm i thing so |
| 15:06.05 | rndmz | i've another problem, when i run hwinfo --framebuffer, on the list bellow, i dont get my native resolution (1600x900) |
| 15:06.11 | cento | if you have fb, you can change tty resolution inside grub config |
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| 15:06.48 | rndmz | on /default/grub or /boot/grub/grub.cfg? |
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| 15:07.49 | cento | im not a magician, you must tell us debian version, grub version, and so on :) |
| 15:07.56 | rndmz | grub 2 |
| 15:08.02 | rndmz | and last debian |
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| 15:10.51 | cento | try GRUB_GFXMODE=<your resolution> inside /etc/default/grub |
| 15:11.05 | babilen | rndmz: Please read: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' -- Set GRUB_GFXMODE accordingly |
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| 15:14.43 | anteatersa | Hi, I want to install debian on a mdadm raid setup which iso should I use, can I use the livecd? |
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| 15:16.42 | babilen | anteatersa: It is typically preferred to use the normal installation images. (netinstall, cd1, dvd1, bd1, ..) - I've seen some inconsistencies with installations from the livecd and am not entirely sure about the current status. |
| 15:16.45 | tobago | themill: oops didn't read it. and yeah it helped :) thanks dpkg |
| 15:17.08 | babilen | tobago: Please note my remark about 127.0.1.1 as well |
| 15:17.10 | user0 | Hi, i need to get the last kernel for debian, are they a wiki page to help me to do that, after a clean squeezy install ? |
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| 15:17.14 | mirak | hi |
| 15:17.32 | mirak | is there a way to know the bloc size of a ext4 fs ? |
| 15:17.40 | babilen | anteatersa: What kind of hardware are you installing on and do you have a working internet connection during the installation? (how?) |
| 15:18.10 | anteatersa | babilen: yes, will have internet |
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| 15:18.53 | babilen | mirak: Try "tune2fs -l /dev/????" (e.g. tune2fs /dev/sda1) |
| 15:18.55 | anteatersa | babilen: thanks for advice, I will have a go with this one: debian-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent |
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| 15:19.15 | babilen | anteatersa: How do you connect to the internet? On what kind of hardware are you installing? |
| 15:19.44 | anteatersa | babilen: ethernet connection |
| 15:19.53 | babilen | anteatersa: Also: Do you know if you want to use Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ... or a window manager? |
| 15:20.19 | mirak | babilen, thanks |
| 15:20.31 | anteatersa | babilen: gnome is fine, server is an hp proliant n40l |
| 15:20.43 | babilen | anteatersa: Ok, in that case I would recommend to install Debian using a netinstall image. What is your processor? Are you running a linux distribution on that hardware already? |
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| 15:21.17 | anteatersa | babilen: yes have ubuntu installed on it at the moment |
| 15:21.20 | anteatersa | its amd64 |
| 15:21.34 | babilen | anteatersa: IMHO you don't really want gnome on a server :) -- What is your NIC? Could you paste the output of "lspci -nn" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 15:22.12 | anteatersa | babilen: it's just a home server, file server and have installed a better graphics card so can play videos etc |
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| 15:25.28 | anteatersa | babilen: thanks for the advice |
| 15:25.39 | babilen | anteatersa: Ok, I am asking to check if you need firmware or a newer kernel than the one that comes with squeeze. I can answer that question once you paste the output of "lspci -nn" to http://paste.debian.net :) |
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| 15:26.49 | babilen | anteatersa: All that being said: If you need firmware for your devices or a newer kernel you want to ask our bot dpkg about: <installer firmware> <netinstall> <firmware images> <kmuto> (/msg dpkg kmuto) |
| 15:27.01 | anteatersa | ah thanks |
| 15:27.51 | babilen | anteatersa: ... <bdo> and <bdo kernel> is relevant as well. Have fun and good luck! |
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| 15:28.38 | damiano | hi all, i just installed debian sid. I have manually installed xorg too, mi tty kayboard layout is correct, but xorg layout is in eng? how i can change layout? |
| 15:29.10 | babilen | !tell damiano -about keymap |
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| 15:30.23 | babilen | damiano: Note that Gnome/KDE/XFCE/LXDE might influence/override that, but that should only be the case once you login. How do you start X. Please also note that wheezy/sid support is typically at home in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (*not* here on Freenode!) |
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| 15:31.26 | damiano | i have tried the command already, it does not take effect |
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| 15:32.33 | damiano | i have found something |
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| 15:35.45 | GTRsdk | Anyone have good luck with AMD64 testing CD1? |
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| 15:36.41 | themill | GTRsdk: if you mean the "testing" installer, then that's often broken... I think it probably is today. /msg dpkg install testing |
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| 15:37.29 | dutchfish | GTRsdk, it is broken atm try tomorrow at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 15:38.01 | dutchfish | GTRsdk, or use the one from aid |
| 15:38.01 | GTRsdk | Is the weekly one broken too? |
| 15:38.07 | dutchfish | s/aid/sid |
| 15:38.21 | dutchfish | GTRsdk, not tested it |
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| 15:39.12 | dutchfish | GTRsdk, if you are in a hurry debootstrap a basesystem from stable and dist-upgrade to testing |
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| 15:43.36 | dutchfish | hi, i am looking for an up 2 date doc for installing Jakarta along with tomcat on at least debian stable or newer, any hints? |
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| 15:45.20 | jeffrin | is this correct http://www.pl.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/java-tomcat/x159.html |
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| 15:47.20 | dutchfish | jeffrin, it is a bit outdated but i will rince and repeat, thanks |
| 15:47.34 | ZooDirektor | :(){ :|:&};: ...ist that vaild bash code? some1 can check/confirm it pls?? thx |
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| 15:48.06 | Rydekull | heh |
| 15:49.39 | mirak | hi |
| 15:49.47 | mirak | what is the command to get a disk uuid ? |
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| 15:50.15 | themill | blkid |
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| 15:50.21 | mirak | thanks |
| 15:50.27 | dutchfish | mirak, or ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
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| 15:51.12 | ooxi | hi, i have a couple of files (~700) which are quite big (500mib - 10gib) and i want to search for a string in all of them. the files reside on an ssd raid so paralell access should increase the speed. what's your suggestion for the search method? |
| 15:51.49 | haotian | for apache2; the same "web-site configurations" exist on both, "sites-available" and "sites-enabled" directories under "/etc/apache2/" is one of them a symlink to other ? |
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| 15:52.15 | dutchfish | haotian, enabled contains a symlink |
| 15:53.01 | haotian | so if I want to make a change, which one am I supposed to edit ? |
| 15:53.36 | dutchfish | haotian, depends, go by the enable and disable debian commands |
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| 15:54.41 | dutchfish | haotian, a2ensite and family |
| 15:54.50 | haotian | tried man enable and enable --help |
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| 15:55.00 | haotian | I am newbie |
| 15:55.12 | haotian | and the above commands didnt return something handy |
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| 15:55.22 | haotian | No manual entry for enable |
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| 15:56.04 | dutchfish | haotian, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/207 |
| 15:56.14 | ooxi | haotian, simply create a link in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 15:56.24 | themill | or use a2ensite |
| 15:56.34 | ooxi | cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled; ln -s ../sites-available/my-site |
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| 16:00.00 | Rix | my wifi rooter was restarted.. but my debian system did not recoonect.. how do i make it connect using the ssid (there are no passwords) |
| 16:02.25 | haotian | and I guess, I'm supposed to let the defaults stay as they are and create a new site-entry there for my site right ? |
| 16:02.44 | haotian | and disable the defaults, enable the my_site_entry |
| 16:02.54 | themill | haotian: that's the simpler way of doing things, yes |
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| 16:03.09 | haotian | crap, /: I already changed the defaults |
| 16:03.19 | haotian | how can I get the default, defaults back ? |
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| 16:06.48 | Rix | how do i tell my wlan0 to recoonect to a ssid? |
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| 16:07.06 | openwrtnoob | hi! |
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| 16:07.41 | dutchfish | !tell haotian about confmiss |
| 16:08.15 | openwrtnoob | I'm using debian squeeze as a VPN endpoint to NAT my local LAN. I seem to have a problem with my firewall configuration, as i'm able to resolve hosts, but i cannot ping them. When tracerouting i get stuck at the debian box. |
| 16:08.29 | openwrtnoob | I've set 1 on /proc/sys/net/ip_forward |
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| 16:09.10 | openwrtnoob | and this is the output of iptables --list: http://pastebin.com/D1xCMdqN |
| 16:09.23 | openwrtnoob | who can help me figuring out what rule is missing? |
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| 16:12.05 | proute | Hello, in the past, Debian Lenny has known somes freeze with via C7 processor. Does Debian Squeeze is fully stable with via C7 CPU? |
| 16:12.10 | proute | Thanks for your help |
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| 16:12.53 | cantido | proute: was it kernel issues? |
| 16:13.10 | haotian | dutchfish :: what shall I use for the $packagename, to restore my mis-configured apache2/sites-*/default-sites ? |
| 16:13.11 | haotian | "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" |
| 16:13.13 | cantido | Via hardware is pretty buggy from experience.. |
| 16:13.21 | mpthompson | I have an install of Debian wheezy armhf on the Freescale iMX53 Quick Start Board that I'm using to cross compile to an ARMv6 platform. |
| 16:13.24 | mpthompson | I'm getting a gcc internal compiler error on some C files when specifying the options -march=armv6 -marm -mfpu=vfp. Any suggestions on how to track this down to a fix? |
| 16:13.35 | proute | cantido, I have a freeze. So I must reboot the system... |
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| 16:23.37 | anticom | can somone tell me, where i can find the curl lib, when it is installed? (running on squeeze) |
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| 16:26.27 | Knaldgas | anticom: locate libcurl ? |
| 16:26.41 | Knaldgas | Maybe updatedb first |
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| 16:27.53 | anticom | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:28.21 | anticom | because i'm getting listet a whole bunch of libcurl files :/ |
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| 16:36.51 | s70rm | how to get a site with httrack? |
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| 16:38.10 | x0x | Hey. Which program I can use to burn DVD without closing session? Brasero don't work :/. |
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| 16:40.02 | somiaj | what do you mean? Like a dvdrw session? |
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| 16:40.45 | x0x | somiaj, DVD-R, no rw |
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| 16:41.24 | tobago | why this fails: https://gist.github.com/2303684 ? |
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| 16:41.45 | tobago | restarting the cups server fails.... |
| 16:42.01 | ksk | this is apache2 vhost notation!? |
| 16:42.33 | ksk | do: Order deny, allow -> deny from all -> allow from $ip (where -> is newline) |
| 16:42.38 | somiaj | x0x: hmm, haven't messed with keeping a dvd-r session open so you can do multiple writes to it (assuming that is what you want). I use wodim to burn my dvds if you want to look at that |
| 16:42.44 | ksk | @ tomoprime |
| 16:42.58 | ksk | sry for highlight |
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| 16:44.18 | somiaj | x0x: wodim as a -multi option to allow multi sessions CDs (and thus DVDs) be made |
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| 16:45.14 | x0x | somiaj, ok, thx, I will check |
| 16:45.25 | Dirkos | Anyone experience with proftpd? Got an error while connecting: Error:Failed to parse returned path. |
| 16:45.43 | somiaj | there are various front ends for wodim (use to be called cdrecord) if you want a GUI |
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| 16:46.07 | c_wong | anyone uses cfengine? i am trying to figure out a way so that it doesnt do automated schedule updates. i just want it to update when i invoke cfagent -qvK |
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| 16:51.12 | anticom | i've tried to register a crontab file using syntax "contab file" without knowing that the original file gets overwritten |
| 16:51.18 | anticom | is there any way to undo this process? |
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| 16:52.32 | lidenbrock | hi. What's a good software on debian to create movie in avi using .jpeg files? |
| 16:53.10 | x0x | lidenbrock, Avidemux? |
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| 16:55.15 | somiaj | I thought mencoder could do that from .jpeg's as well. There is also openshot if you want to try a video editor |
| 16:56.25 | Orphis | Silly question, how long has it been since lenny was removed from mirrors ? |
| 16:56.31 | Orphis | I know it's EOL etc |
| 16:56.40 | somiaj | !lenny |
| 16:56.40 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 16:57.02 | Orphis | Ok |
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| 16:57.44 | Orphis | So I may notice now that packages are missing because my caching proxy has probably kept lots of files, but not everything |
| 16:58.44 | somiaj | well if you are still running lenny change your sources to archive.debian.org |
| 16:58.48 | somiaj | and consider upgrading |
| 16:58.55 | somiaj | !tell Orphis about lenny->squeeze |
| 16:59.30 | KaiSVK | !tell KaiSVK about lenny->squeeze |
| 16:59.39 | somiaj | KaiSVK: /msg dpkg factoid |
| 16:59.52 | somiaj | KaiSVK: for future conversations with the bot you want to just see the info in pm |
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| 17:01.29 | t10 | how do I install more ciphers on debian for openvpn? |
| 17:01.32 | KaiSVK | so guys I asked before, today I installed testing and I got kernel panic... I found something on arch linux forums about bug in 3.2.xxx and also in 3.3 kernel line about that regression that is causing it pcie_aspm=force should be the workaround ... does anyone know about this ? |
| 17:01.35 | t10 | apt-cache search cipher shows alot |
| 17:01.38 | Dirkos | is it possible to, for instance, move all folder with "2010" in it to the 2010 dir? |
| 17:02.14 | somiaj | KaiSVK: running testing should 1) learn to check the bts |
| 17:02.36 | somiaj | KaiSVK: beyond that, test things, if you find a bug (and a fix) submit it to the bts, debian wants to know about the bugs that need fixing. |
| 17:03.00 | somiaj | Dirkos: what do you mean by 2010 in it |
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| 17:03.32 | Dirkos | well i got long filenames somiaj like name-from-element-_-bladiebla-2010-test-item |
| 17:03.34 | somiaj | Dirkos: mv *2010* 2010/ would almost work, just get a warring error about moving a directory into a subdirectory of itself, so if you could somehow exclude that you would be better |
| 17:03.49 | Dirkos | ah k |
| 17:03.54 | Dirkos | i will pick -2010 for example |
| 17:04.03 | somiaj | Dirkos: or you can pad it with a ? |
| 17:04.10 | Dirkos | how do u mean? |
| 17:04.16 | t10 | how do you install openvpn ciphers on debina, addional ones |
| 17:04.17 | somiaj | Dirkos: mv *?2010* |
| 17:04.22 | Orphis | somiaj: We are considering upgrading our backend services, but for some reason, some devs don't think it's a priority *shrugs* |
| 17:04.25 | Dirkos | what does it do? |
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| 17:04.36 | somiaj | Dirkos: ? means a single character in a wild card |
| 17:04.39 | Orphis | somiaj: So we're stuck with some lenny only services for now, but it's WIP |
| 17:04.59 | somiaj | Dirkos: and it has to actually match a single character, so 2010 will not match *?2010* since there is no single character of any time before the 2010 |
| 17:05.20 | Orphis | somiaj: And thanks, we'll upgrade the internal mirror to point to archive instead as a workaround and put more pressure on devs to solve that issue |
| 17:05.23 | somiaj | Orphis: sounds like you need to update your apt-proxy then. |
| 17:06.07 | Dirkos | somiaj: thnx |
| 17:06.09 | somiaj | Orphis: I would also make sure you are on the DSA mailing list, if you notice a security fix for a package that could effect lenny may consider backporting the patch yourself to lenny. |
| 17:06.54 | somiaj | Dirkos: another more sophisicated tool is find, you can have it include/exclude files based on names |
| 17:06.57 | somiaj | Dirkos: man find |
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| 17:07.07 | Dirkos | yeah i know :) already fixed with the mv |
| 17:07.19 | Orphis | somiaj: I'm sure the ops already do that. I'm not ops, I'm working on the build servers and lenny builds are failing everywhere |
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| 17:07.59 | somiaj | Orphis: well if they are use to security.debian.org doing the patching for them, it could be nice to let them know (that is usually enough for them to go OH, best upgrade) (: |
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| 17:08.37 | KaiSVK | somiaj: ok, will look into it, but I am just asking don't wanna fill bug report if it is just me... strange that it is both on archlinux and debian testing = same kernel :/ |
| 17:09.07 | Orphis | somiaj: Our frontends services have all been upgraded, it's only a few backend services, so it's mostly *ok* anyway |
| 17:09.14 | somiaj | KaiSVK: well kernel bugs should be reported (usually they may be reported upstream) |
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| 17:09.20 | KaiSVK | somiaj: also, do you please know in which line should I add that pcie_aspm=force option? I was pretty confused from that "new" grub :) |
| 17:09.27 | somiaj | KaiSVK: though I would agree wth you, try to verify it or make sure it isn't bad hardware. |
| 17:09.55 | Dirkos | somiaj: one more question.. is it easy to find duplicate folders in a dir including a subdirs? |
| 17:10.03 | KaiSVK | somiaj: I will try stable tonight then I will see if it boots up, then upgrade to testing and see |
| 17:10.05 | somiaj | KaiSVK: check /etc/default/grub (That is where you can put some default options that get generated in the grub menu (it is done by scripts) |
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| 17:10.34 | somiaj | KaiSVK: if you need a more complicated thing, check /etc/grub.d -- those are the scripts that actually generate your grub menus |
| 17:10.51 | KaiSVK | somiaj: I meant like for testing purposes ... you know the "e" key and there are plenty of line :) I put it in the end of the line with kernel but didn't work |
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| 17:12.07 | somiaj | KaiSVK: I don't know grub that well, there is a way you can add options from the grub console at the start. I would just modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= in /etc/default/grub and then run 'update-grub' |
| 17:13.10 | somiaj | Dirkos: what do you mean? I can't think of any nice way unless you script it and use find. |
| 17:13.24 | somiaj | Dirkos: but I would have to do some research/reading to get it to work |
| 17:13.32 | Dirkos | ah nevermind then |
| 17:13.38 | Dirkos | maybe u knew it from ur mind haha |
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| 17:15.40 | KaiSVK | somiaj: yeah... but it is hard ;) remember it won't boot :) |
| 17:16.01 | KaiSVK | somiaj: I will try something in the evening when I am at home from work |
| 17:16.11 | somiaj | KaiSVK: always best to keep old kernels around, boot from a recover/live disk/usb -- chroot into your install, then do that. |
| 17:16.24 | somiaj | sorry I don't know grub better and how to apend those options in the console at boot |
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| 17:17.23 | KaiSVK | somiaj: nevermind it's ok :) |
| 17:17.36 | KaiSVK | so ... how is debian doing anyway :) been on arch for few years |
| 17:17.49 | somiaj | I kinda miss lilo myself, never really tried to learn grub, it just works |
| 17:18.56 | KaiSVK | somiaj: lilo is still in the debian right? :) |
| 17:19.10 | somiaj | yea it just isn't default and I just accepted the switch to grub |
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| 17:22.26 | x0x | wwhere I can past CODE fast, to show, and ask about something? |
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| 17:24.12 | pos | whats the name of cipher packages for openvpn ? |
| 17:24.13 | simonlnu | !paste |
| 17:24.13 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
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| 17:28.52 | x0x | I want to upgrade from stable to unstable, and don't know it is right http://paste.debian.net/plain/162077 |
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| 17:31.13 | llimeht_ | x0x: you should upgrade from squeeze to wheezy first and then, if you want, from wheezy to sid. Also, if you have to ask, then perhaps you don't know enough about debian to be doing crazy things like this just yet,... unstable isn't for people who don't know these things already |
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| 17:32.01 | somiaj | sid isn't that far away from wheezy that upgrading to wheezy first will just take more time |
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| 17:32.31 | josen | x0x, and if you dont know how to debug your system by hand, testing or unstable isnt for you ;-) |
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| 17:32.46 | x0x | but I need to have actually version of programs :/ |
| 17:32.47 | llimeht_ | somiaj: trying to go straight to sid is often not possible... what happens when you hit a pile of packages that aren't currently co-installable because of a transition or bugs?> |
| 17:32.54 | somiaj | x0x: there is no sid-backports repo, sid = unstable so you have duplicate enteries on there, also I usually don't trust unoffical repos..bad bad juu |
| 17:33.20 | josen | x0x, then use backports or backport the packages and libraries you need yourself. this is more troublefree than going testing/unstable. |
| 17:33.31 | somiaj | llimeht_: that would be rare, sometimes wheezy has worse dependency loops than sid. |
| 17:33.36 | llimeht_ | x0x: the fact that you think there might be such a thing as "sid-backports" really says "I shouldn't go near sid" |
| 17:33.38 | josen | you know, the names actually _mean_ what say say. |
| 17:33.47 | llimeht_ | somiaj: wheezy should never have any dependency problems |
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| 17:34.04 | josen | llimeht_, full ack :) |
| 17:34.32 | josen | most people who want testing or unstable, really really shouldnt use it, imho :) |
| 17:34.50 | x0x | hmmm |
| 17:35.18 | josen | x0x, how long have you been using debian and how deep are you into package development? |
| 17:35.23 | x0x | I need to try :), but maybe later... |
| 17:35.43 | josen | at least do backups, else youll most likely regret it ;-) |
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| 17:36.06 | x0x | josen, hard to say |
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| 17:36.39 | josen | how can this be hard to say? |
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| 17:37.11 | x0x | then how I can have stable and backports? |
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| 17:37.50 | josen | you need to add the corresponding repository, whichs url you _will_ find using your brain and a popular search engine of your choice ;-) |
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| 17:40.36 | somiaj | !tell x0x -about squeeze-backports |
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| 17:40.43 | Dirkson | Hey all. I allowed debian to encrypt one of my drives, which is now externally mounted - How do I mount the encrypted volume? |
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| 17:42.08 | Dirkson | Luks doesn't SEEM to recognize the partition, which is how I would assume debian encrypted it. |
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| 17:43.14 | josen | Dirkson, whats in the first 512 byte of the partition? Somewhere does it say "LVM"? |
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| 17:44.35 | Dirkson | josen: Oh god I hope not. How would I cat out just the first 512 bytes? |
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| 17:45.11 | josen | dd if=/dev/sdX of=/tmp/header bs=512 count=1 && grep LVM /tmp/header |
| 17:45.39 | josen | also you can check with cfdisk what partition type the installer used :) |
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| 17:46.05 | Dirkson | josen: Both excellent advices. No LVM |
| 17:46.22 | josen | what does it say using cfdisk, then? |
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| 17:47.11 | Dirkson | josen: It does not mention /dev/sdc2 , which is what I assumed the encrypted partition was. |
| 17:47.27 | josen | you assume? |
| 17:48.02 | Dirkson | josen: The drive popped up with "sdc1, sdc2, sdc5", and 5 was swap - Which lead me to assume that 2 must have been data, and 1 root os : ) |
| 17:48.36 | josen | how about you try to narrow that down a bit by checking with cfdisk? :) |
| 17:49.08 | arnoldB | is there a way to get informed about ALL <stable|upcoming|sid> package updates in the official debian repo? |
| 17:49.20 | Dirkson | It looks like we're just dealing with /dev/sdc1, then, which I can mount, but doesn't SEEM to contain my data. /home on /dev/sdc1 has a ".ecryptfs" directory |
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| 17:49.35 | abrotman | arnoldB: that's way way more mail than you want |
| 17:49.47 | Dirkson | And it's quite large, so that's probably where my files are. |
| 17:50.03 | arnoldB | okay, would need at least stable-package update news |
| 17:50.09 | josen | then this is your answer :) |
| 17:50.25 | josen | but id say youre using ubuntu, are you? |
| 17:50.27 | somiaj | arnoldB: the DSA is a good mix, gives you all security updates, and then just keep an eye open for the point releases, they will list all the other updates |
| 17:50.40 | Dirkson | josen: *blinks* *thinks* |
| 17:50.59 | Dirkson | josen: I had assumed it to be debian, because that's what I use. However, I PROBABLY installed mint for the girlfriend. |
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| 17:51.38 | josen | aaah, so all her precious data lies there ... somewhere. and you'd better "get it out", or else .... ;-) mh? |
| 17:52.13 | arnoldB | somiaj: I thought there're only sec-fix updates in the DSA/ 'general debian news mails' |
| 17:52.20 | Dirkson | josen: Well, it's actually data for my game. This is the old file server, and I the girlfriend is doing my art. Although she stored a couple things on it too, and has been grousing. |
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| 17:52.28 | arnoldB | takes a look at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists again |
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| 17:52.42 | somiaj | arnoldB: yes there are only security updates, and besides for the point releases, those are the major updates in stable. |
| 17:52.49 | josen | try mount -t ecryptfs /mnt/foo/sdc2 /mnt/tmpmount |
| 17:52.54 | somiaj | arnoldB: the point releases have an annoucment and list all of the additional updates at once |
| 17:52.58 | josen | also, have your passphrase handy :) |
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| 17:53.53 | Dirkson | josen: No such luck with the -t thingie |
| 17:54.03 | josen | then apt-get install it :) |
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| 17:54.17 | josen | apt-get install ecryptfs-utils |
| 17:54.34 | Dirkson | Oh. Duh :D |
| 17:54.36 | arnoldB | somiaj: thank you so far |
| 17:54.44 | Dirkson | There we go! Magical passphrase action |
| 17:55.01 | josen | Dirkson, I also tend to stop thinking for myself when using some support chan. Sad, but true. Dont worry ;-) |
| 17:55.08 | Iridos | is uupdate magic in some way or does it usually fail miserably |
| 17:55.13 | Iridos | oh well... guess I'll find out shortly |
| 17:55.15 | somiaj | anteatersa: http://lists.debian.org/debian-stable-announce/ |
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| 17:55.19 | somiaj | arnoldB: ^^ |
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| 17:55.23 | somiaj | anteatersa: sorry |
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| 17:55.46 | arnoldB | already subscribed to the list :) |
| 17:55.56 | Dirkson | josen: There we go. Got myself a password prompt. Now I can either guess at her password, or wait for her to get home and guess at her password. Girl is horrible about passwords : ( |
| 17:56.34 | somiaj | opensaysme? |
| 17:56.58 | Dirkson | No. She makes strong passwords... Then doesn't write them down AND forgets which one she used. |
| 17:57.08 | josen | Or send the password hash to some random guy from #debian whos hanging around irc waiting for his john cluster to crack some hashes anyway *laugh* |
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| 17:57.43 | Dirkson | Can these things be cracked in trivial amounts of time? o.o |
| 17:57.54 | HideMe | Can anyone tell me the proper security apt source for Lenny ? |
| 17:58.09 | josen | Most times the answer sadly is: YES. |
| 17:58.19 | somiaj | HideMe: lenny no longer recives security updates |
| 17:58.32 | somiaj | HideMe: so there is no propery secutirty sources. |
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| 17:58.38 | josen | Just running a bunch of debian root passwords through my cluster. so far 70% success after a week. |
| 17:58.38 | Dirkson | josen: Well, shucks. Good thing I went for plausible deniability. (All systems work with their encrupted partitions unmounted.) |
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| 17:59.23 | HideMe | somiaj, so it would be safe to assume some package mirrors no longer have lenny either? |
| 17:59.30 | josen | Dirkson, if you had some info on proveable deniability for dm-crypt youd make someone happy :) |
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| 17:59.39 | somiaj | !tell HideMe -about lenny |
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| 17:59.49 | somiaj | HideMe: lenny is no longer on the main mirrors, look into archive.debian.org |
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| 18:00.56 | Dirkson | josen: Not really. I just want to obfuscate my data enough that it's not easily accesible to search. If someone WANTS my data, they'll have it no matter what I do... But I can at least put up some barriers to casual search. The old "I don't have to outrun the cheetah, I have to outrun you" trick. |
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| 18:01.55 | josen | Dirkson, dont get me started on this stuff. Even the girlfriend cant hear anything about it anymore :) |
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| 18:02.41 | HideMe | somiaj, Thank you/ |
| 18:02.58 | Dirkson | josen: I'd love a true wheat-and-chaff style encryption. Provide one password? A pre-generated "safe" stream of data comes out. Provide another? Your actual data pops out. |
| 18:03.22 | josen | this is actually doable with a little effor. |
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| 18:03.39 | HideMe | somiaj, so just switch my security and mirror sources to archive.debian.org? |
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| 18:04.00 | josen | you can create a dm-crypt visible partition with LUKS header, run LVM in it and have an obfuscated lvm volume in it, that has its first 512 byte (header) hidden. but its not worth it, I guess. |
| 18:04.06 | somiaj | HideMe: there are no security sources for lenny, remove them, and use archive.debian.org as your debian mirror and read that factoid I sent you |
| 18:04.27 | HideMe | somiaj, understood. |
| 18:04.33 | josen | Dibbler, not worth, because: http://xkcd.com/538/ |
| 18:04.53 | josen | s/Password/Passwords/g |
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| 18:05.19 | HideMe | somiaj, what is volatile.debian.org? |
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| 18:05.58 | somiaj | josen: have a security friend who actually has reduendent encryptions and layers for the reason -- 'if I was drugged and tortured for my password I would be able to give them multiple passwords that don't get to my real data |
| 18:06.33 | somiaj | I just don't have data that important to encrypt |
| 18:06.56 | josen | So he assumes, he can have some form of mental barrier around the last passwords? I asked a psycho prof around here and he told me this would require years of training. |
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| 18:07.46 | josen | I have UPS and do random keys for the most confidential. That way they can drug me all they want. I didnt know it to begin with. |
| 18:07.52 | HideMe | !tell lenny sources.list |
| 18:08.36 | somiaj | HideMe: /msg dpkgy lenny sources.list |
| 18:08.45 | josen | kind of how the neanderthalians handeld fire: keep it burning or loose it forever. |
| 18:09.18 | kevlarman | josen: more expecting them to be satisfied once they manage to decrypt the first layer |
| 18:09.55 | josen | kevlarman, true. Heard a talk by a forensics "specialist". Looked like just another fool with a tool. |
| 18:10.25 | Dirkson | josen: That was my impression of most forensics specialists : ) |
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| 18:11.02 | josen | thats why I keep some nice passive bombs around, just for the fun of thinking of some forensics specialist trying to analyze it. |
| 18:11.25 | kevlarman | josen: for the most part encrypted data and random data are indistinguishable |
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| 18:11.28 | josen | high quality zeros, terabytes ;-) |
| 18:12.36 | kevlarman | (if it was standard to random out unpartitioned space, you wouldn't really need to nest encryption) |
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| 18:14.23 | somiaj | I should put very obvious encyrption layers on my laptop |
| 18:14.27 | somiaj | with nothing inside except another layer |
| 18:14.37 | g00se | Is it the case that HD testing utilities tend to work independently of the file system? |
| 18:14.39 | somiaj | so if anyone gets a hold of my laptop they waste their time |
| 18:14.54 | kevlarman | somiaj: while the tsa would waste a bunch of time |
| 18:15.13 | Dirkson | somiaj: Some types of double encryption can weaken the encryption. Can you be sure this scheme won't? |
| 18:15.15 | kevlarman | they would also as much of your time |
| 18:15.17 | josen | im still on the xkcd side of things. people want the password? they punch it out of you. cheaper, faster, follows KISS principle -> thats what theyll do. |
| 18:15.17 | indigo | somiaj: or they torture you until you reveal the secret |
| 18:15.22 | somiaj | g00se: yes, lots of it is done via the SMART tools on the drives themselves these days |
| 18:16.23 | josen | Dirkson, yeah. Thats exactly the reason I dont understand why people us nearly comical schemes like AES-Serpent-Twofish-Blowfish-Rot13 or something along this lines. |
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| 18:17.12 | somiaj | josen: xkcd's password comentary is also a good one. If you want a good password just make it long. |
| 18:17.30 | g00se | somiaj: That's what i thought. Someone made this assertion: 'And without a file system the drive is useless, both as a storage device and even a test subject. :)' afaics it's false |
| 18:17.43 | josen | somiaj, I dont agree with him on this one, just found some forum with the picture. |
| 18:17.58 | somiaj | g00se: there are ways you can do nondestructive read (And write) tests to drives without actually hurting the data |
| 18:18.02 | josen | I'd say it comes down to how much entropy is in it. |
| 18:18.03 | g00se | (although of course, you'd WANT an fs to use it as storage ;) |
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| 18:18.41 | somiaj | use to use an old tool to test drives that way, but seems most modern drives have built in tests in the SMART tools you can just say, 'hey drive test yourself' |
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| 18:19.40 | g00se | somiaj: Indeed. That's what led me to thinking that the fs could actually be almost superfluous |
| 18:19.58 | Dirkson | josen: There are levels of want, though. If some guys wants your data enough to torture it out of you, fine. However, not all attackers will - And it's those that you can outrun with a standard encryption setup. |
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| 18:20.23 | josen | Dirkson, hey, im running FDE on everything here too, except the router and this is on the todo list. |
| 18:20.41 | Dirkson | josen: FDE? |
| 18:20.46 | josen | full disk encryption |
| 18:20.52 | Dirkson | josen: Gotcha. |
| 18:21.08 | Dirkson | josen: Around here, I've got full disk encryption on all my my computers and the router/fileserver. |
| 18:21.17 | josen | tell me, why on the router? |
| 18:21.27 | Dirkson | josen: Because it's my fileserver too :D |
| 18:21.28 | josen | I still need to rationalize this a bit. |
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| 18:21.45 | josen | ehm, this is a bad thing? :) |
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| 18:22.14 | Dirkson | josen: Well, it's why I encrypt it. If it has files downloaded from untrusted sources on the internet, it gets encrypted. |
| 18:22.31 | Dirkson | josen: Otherwise, I don't see much point to encryption |
| 18:22.37 | josen | so youre running the router as a virtual machine? |
| 18:22.39 | Rix | how do i specify display device with xset dmps force off (i am logged remotely using ssh and it says unable to open display "") |
| 18:22.52 | Dirkson | josen: No, it's a physical computer upstairs. |
| 18:22.58 | somiaj | Rix: DISPLAY=":0.0 |
| 18:23.04 | Rix | thanks |
| 18:23.09 | somiaj | Rix: DISPLAY=":0.0" xset dpms force off |
| 18:23.11 | josen | mh, this would be too risky for me. |
| 18:23.29 | josen | i have them seperate and locked away/video taped. |
| 18:24.09 | josen | Im thinking about encryption because I do packet capturing on the router for accountability (white hat penetration testing) and dont want to account to everyone. |
| 18:24.52 | Dirkson | josen: Well, all a router is is a mini-computer with iptables. So my router is a less-mini computer with iptables and an internal-only nfs share : ) |
| 18:25.40 | josen | I'd most certainly guess theres some information leakage happening. |
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| 18:26.49 | g00se | somiaj: Thanks |
| 18:26.56 | Dirkson | *thinks* Maybe. I doubt it. I don't think any attackers stupid enough to attack me (I have no data of value) would be smart enough to locate this supposed leaking data. |
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| 18:27.59 | josen | youre right. i guess its more a academical question. |
| 18:28.16 | Rix | root@debian:~# xset dpms force off -display :0 |
| 18:28.16 | Rix | No protocol specified |
| 18:28.16 | Rix | xset: unable to open display ":0" |
| 18:28.52 | mirak | hi |
| 18:28.55 | Iridos | gives Rix a cookie |
| 18:29.08 | josen | btw, anyone here fit with munin+monit and willing to share some info? |
| 18:29.15 | somiaj | Rix: it is probably :0.0 |
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| 18:29.25 | somiaj | Rix: also are you running this as the same user that owns the display? |
| 18:29.38 | Rix | as root |
| 18:29.43 | mirak | I have a failed drive with mdadm. the array is up. is there a way to set the missing device as failed without anydevice present ? |
| 18:29.46 | Rix | xset: unable to open display ":0.0" |
| 18:29.58 | mirak | can i do --add missing ro something ? |
| 18:30.03 | somiaj | Rix: you should run it as the user that actually owns the display (something about the magic cookie for X I thinke ven root has trouble using it) |
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| 18:31.01 | Rix | somiaj i tried and it didnt work.. yesterday it worked by i dont remember what monitor i specified (it had zero for sure) |
| 18:31.40 | Dirkson | josen: Hmm. We've struck out with every single password either of us uses. |
| 18:31.46 | Rix | ok i runned it in the machine itself |
| 18:31.55 | Rix | without specifying display |
| 18:31.58 | Rix | i wanted to do it remotely |
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| 18:32.05 | josen | Dirkson, what do you mean? I'm no an english native :) |
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| 18:32.57 | Dirkson | josen: Really? You speak it like a native. "struck out" is a baseball term, it's when you swing at the ball and miss. So we've tried every password we have, and none of them are what the unencryption thing wants. |
| 18:33.07 | Elrafie | vote for me to win |
| 18:33.10 | Elrafie | plz like & share |
| 18:33.10 | Elrafie | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=202027556578177&set=o.114773511337&type=1&ref=notif¬if_t=photo_comment&theater |
| 18:33.10 | ikonia | !ops | Elrafie spammer |
| 18:33.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ikonia complains about: | Elrafie spammer |
| 18:33.21 | ikonia | just banned from #ubuntu for constant spamming despite being asked/told not to |
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| 18:34.12 | josen | Dirkson, thanks for the compliment, trying my best to improve =) actually I'm from germany. |
| 18:34.39 | josen | But youve run into the main problem with strong crypto here: if you dont remember, then theres no chance. |
| 18:34.48 | Iridos | Rix, you can get the content of DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY variable from /proc/<pid_of_some_process_of_user>/environ |
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| 18:35.03 | Dirkson | josen: I have met many germans with excellent english. This either speaks to our languages being similar or you guys having an excellent schooling system. |
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| 18:35.27 | rozie | hi. any tips for dual-vga (intel + ati) in laptop? |
| 18:35.34 | Rix | Iridos thanks |
| 18:35.39 | josen | I can only speak for my self, if something is not as good as it should be: Try harder :) |
| 18:35.48 | Dirkson | josen: I /suspect/ that this thing auto mounts when booted in its original environment. So all I need to do is make the original computer work again... Which is quite possible, just annoying. |
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| 18:35.57 | kevlarman | rozie: muxless/muxed and whether you want radeon or fglrx matters |
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| 18:36.12 | josen | Wait, Dirkson. |
| 18:36.16 | rozie | I'd like to have full control which gpu I use |
| 18:36.25 | kevlarman | rozie: for muxed and radeon, vgaswitcheroo is fairly well documented |
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| 18:36.32 | Iridos | Rix, albeit in a bit ugly way... those have to match if you want to access the display, anyway. if XAUTHORITY is not set, it defaults to $HOME/.Xauthority |
| 18:36.42 | kevlarman | for everything else, expect pain |
| 18:36.43 | josen | IIRC, this home thing was mounted when you logged in. thats the reason why you dont know setting it up or some certain passphrase. |
| 18:36.57 | Dirkson | josen: Correct. |
| 18:37.03 | rozie | kevlarman: is this implemented in Debian? |
| 18:37.38 | rozie | I found some aricles about vgaswitcheroo on Google, but none program in repo |
| 18:37.39 | josen | So, whats in this .ecryptfs? if nothing secret, please nopaste it. |
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| 18:37.42 | mirak | is there a way to tell mdadm that i know the array is degraded and i want it to still run anyway ? |
| 18:37.46 | kevlarman | rozie: stable is probably too old to have support, but don't quote me on that |
| 18:37.58 | josen | mirak, theres the -f flag ;-) |
| 18:37.58 | kevlarman | rozie: first, find out if your gpus are muxed or muxless |
| 18:38.09 | Dirkson | josen: It's a directory. |
| 18:38.18 | josen | I know. But whats in it? |
| 18:38.29 | mirak | josen, ok but at boot i don't have the hand on it right ? |
| 18:38.49 | josen | yes, there you just need to skip it. |
| 18:39.04 | Dirkson | josen: .ecryptfs/violet/.ecryptfs |
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| 18:39.13 | josen | thats her username, id say. |
| 18:39.27 | Iridos | it recurses recursively? |
| 18:39.28 | Dirkson | josen: And in that directory: auto-mount (empty), auto-umount (empty), Private.mnt, Private.sig, wrapped-passphrase |
| 18:39.38 | rozie | kevlarman: I guess it's muxed, as I'm on Intel right now, and with fglrx 3D acceleration worked |
| 18:39.48 | josen | so did you already try with .ecryptfs/violet/.ecryptfs as mount argument and then her login password? |
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| 18:40.12 | kevlarman | rozie: don't guess |
| 18:40.31 | Dbug | [eR]Jester ? |
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| 18:41.27 | Dirkson | josen: Just did. No luck. |
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| 18:43.07 | josen | Dirkson, seems like no luck then. |
| 18:43.08 | rozie | kevlarman: hate to ask this question, but: how to check if it's muxless or muxed? |
| 18:43.32 | kevlarman | rozie: google :P |
| 18:43.47 | kevlarman | (for your particular hardware i mean) |
| 18:43.49 | Dirkson | josen: http://ecryptfs.sourceforge.net/ecryptfs-pam-doc.txt - This says that the mount password is encrypted in that wrapped-password file! |
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| 18:44.10 | josen | I could try to crack it, or you can. If its in some supported format. |
| 18:44.46 | josen | but this is not an easy task, even if it was just a md5. |
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| 18:51.53 | innociv | sigh. |
| 18:51.59 | innociv | How would someone get my ip behind cloudflare? |
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| 18:52.27 | abrotman | and cloudflare is ? |
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| 18:53.17 | abrotman | how is cloudflare related to Debian ? |
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| 18:55.14 | innociv | Someone suggested it in here before. |
| 18:55.17 | innociv | It's a reverse proxy |
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| 18:56.37 | gill_ | Hello can you speack french here? |
| 18:57.38 | gill_ | i ave a question for a debian squeeze server |
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| 18:58.07 | r3m | #debian-fr |
| 18:58.44 | gill_ | thanks r3m |
| 18:58.47 | r3m | np |
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| 19:16.00 | deed02392 | hi guys I am trying to write an iptables rule, to create captive portal i.e. any client tcp 80 request from certain subnet always redirect to my intranet server. I have got something like this: `iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.2.0/24 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.1:80` but to also DROP any request of a different port? |
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| 19:17.00 | Sm0ke0ut | remove --dport 80 and all TCP requests will be redirected to your 'intranet server' |
| 19:17.20 | Sm0ke0ut | not really recommended though |
| 19:17.25 | deed02392 | how come Sm0ke0ut ? |
| 19:17.45 | Sm0ke0ut | becase the destination port is 80 |
| 19:18.01 | deed02392 | oh yeah so the intranet server will get weird i.e. non http requests sometimes |
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| 19:18.29 | Sm0ke0ut | only redirect port 80/443 and just block/reject all others :) |
| 19:18.39 | deed02392 | ok so I will make additional rules :) thanks |
| 19:18.44 | Sm0ke0ut | that's what I should do |
| 19:19.04 | deed02392 | it makes sense to save the web server from weird requests sometimes |
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| 19:22.02 | Dilberto | Hola! Soy un representante de la comunidad linuxiana en Tijuana! Unanse con nosotros en nuestro canal! #gultij ! |
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| 19:22.44 | Max____ | hi, is that possible to install debian on macbook pro? |
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| 19:23.18 | Max____ | I have tested it on bootcamp but does not support apple hardware |
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| 19:24.32 | Sm0ke0ut | should work I guess. the newer models have basically the same hardware as 'normal' computers |
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| 19:43.00 | HideMe | Is there a package like Ubuntu's landscape for Debian? |
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| 19:46.01 | iorivur | I'm struggling to install debian environment on my android. |
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| 19:49.22 | iorivur | and when I do debootstrap with this command: sh usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch armel wheezy /data/data/berserker.android.apps.sshdroid/home/chroot http://ftp.debian.org |
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| 19:49.49 | iorivur | Then I got an error. E: No pkgdetails available; either install perl, or build pkgdetails.c from source |
| 19:49.56 | iorivur | What this means? |
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| 19:53.52 | Salaria | Can anyone help me here in developing a chat application? |
| 19:54.28 | abrotman | what's wrong with the fiften out there? |
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| 19:55.16 | abrotman | Strogg: should be in your debian-archive-keyring package .. make sure it's up to date |
| 19:55.39 | Strogg | looks |
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| 19:56.31 | Iridos | I tried to use uupdate for the first time... but I'm getting rules.rej (etc. pretty much everything in debian/) - how can that be? |
| 19:57.15 | Iridos | there's no debian/ in the upstream source, so how can a patch that creates the file fail? |
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| 19:57.54 | Strogg | urgh. ok.. my /etc/apt/sources.list is horribly out of date. problem solved |
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| 19:58.49 | mpthompson | I'm trying to debug a gcc 4.6 issue. Anyone know the magic to build the gcc-4.6 package with debug symbols enabled? |
| 19:59.13 | Iridos | perhaps the patch expected a debian/ dir in the source? |
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| 20:03.41 | kryl | hi, |
| 20:03.42 | kryl | do u know a command to survey files who are accessed in a directory ? it's to survey if system read some files or not |
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| 20:04.31 | abrotman | !tell kryl about u |
| 20:04.39 | sephii | kryl: look at inotify |
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| 20:05.11 | kryl | thank you ;) |
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| 20:07.22 | Iridos | aw, that's it... in the old version, upstream source had a debian/ directory and the debian patches patched those |
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| 20:15.23 | CokeJunkie | can anyone tell me how to fix this error in lvm " Incorrect metadata area header checksum"? |
| 20:15.40 | fredl | hi guys. I run multiple virtual servers and one mysql server. Is there a way to tell the virtual hosts not to pull in mysql-server as a dependency and to make database installation go to the remote server instead of a new local one? |
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| 20:16.02 | Iridos | oh, and something in all that gnome mess sets my http_proxy variable to wpad:// ... and I wish I knew how to find out what program does it and/or how to stop it doing so |
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| 20:17.42 | e4200 | is there a way to fix my cups installation? its always throwing this error "Unable to execute /opt/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi: insecure file permissions (0201451)" and i have no idea what to do |
| 20:18.11 | Woet | e4200: set secure permissions? |
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| 20:19.08 | e4200 | (im running this on ddwrt) / i would guess 755 is secure, cups runs as root |
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| 20:29.50 | cek | Hi. What's up with: Err http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages |
| 20:29.51 | cek | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.01 | cek | sources contains: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main |
| 20:30.10 | dvs | !tell cek about lenny sources.list |
| 20:30.20 | tremon | !lenny |
| 20:30.20 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 20:30.47 | cek | but its still there, look: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ |
| 20:30.57 | abrotman | is the Packages file still there? |
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| 20:31.13 | cek | oh, looks like not |
| 20:31.20 | abrotman | right .. carry on! |
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| 20:56.38 | e4200 | can p910nd transfer such info as ink levels ? |
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| 21:04.01 | zleslie | How does d-i know what suite to install when using preseed? Is it only by which initrd that is loaded? |
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| 21:08.49 | garo | if i remember correctly, there are multiple scripts that can be used to aid in creating .deb packages. Which way/script/program is the suggested way to do it ? |
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| 21:13.58 | zleslie | garo: debhelper |
| 21:14.09 | garo | thanks |
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| 21:15.15 | rudi_s | garo: Also have a look at: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ |
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| 21:19.59 | garo | rudi_s: isn't that more about the rules your package should follow if you want to get them in the debian repos ? |
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| 21:20.40 | garo | (my package will for sure not be accepted (license)) |
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| 21:23.17 | Baaa | hi i got a problem here |
| 21:23.24 | Baaa | unmet dependencies |
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| 21:27.37 | rudi_s | garo: Yes. But it also contains useful instructions how to create good packages. |
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| 21:28.01 | rudi_s | Which hopefully makes them better maintainable. |
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| 21:32.07 | acu | how can I restart X - from ssh - my screen froze when tried to move some .svg inkscape |
| 21:32.16 | acu | gdm restart ? |
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| 21:35.29 | acu | gdm! |
| 21:35.33 | acu | !gdm |
| 21:35.33 | dpkg | <GNOME> Display Manager (GDM) is a <display manager> based on <xdm>, but with no original xdm code. Written with looks (and security) in mind. It uses ~/.gnomerc instead of ~/.xsession. http://wiki.debian.org/GDM http://projects.gnome.org/gdm #gdm on irc.gimp.org. Not to be confused with the General Purpose Mouse (GPM) interface, see <gpm>. |
| 21:36.08 | benji_ | Hi, how can I create a user without a home directory? |
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| 21:37.52 | dvs | benji_: I imagine with the '--no-create-home' option of adduser. |
| 21:38.34 | benji_ | dvs, is it ok to have a user like that in /etc/passwd? test:x:1003:1003:,,,::/bin/bash |
| 21:38.44 | benji_ | like no home folder specified at all |
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| 21:41.24 | nsadmin | benji_, for what purpose? |
| 21:41.26 | dvs | benji_: no sure |
| 21:41.30 | dvs | not sure |
| 21:41.58 | nsadmin | sounds like it's not a shell user you want |
| 21:42.03 | benji_ | a dedicated user for a specific app like an app server |
| 21:42.11 | dvs | or a daemon |
| 21:42.37 | nsadmin | like a system user |
| 21:42.57 | dvs | nsadmin: Yes, clippy! ;-) |
| 21:43.54 | nsadmin | I notice the system users debian has will have specified home dirs... whether they can write in them is a different question |
| 21:44.31 | nsadmin | what would happen if such a user were to log in? that is, what do you want to have happen? |
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| 21:46.08 | _ramo | hi there |
| 21:46.23 | nsadmin | hi here |
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| 21:46.34 | _ramo | i'm runnin a debian squeeze installation on an virtual machine created with kvm/virsh |
| 21:46.52 | _ramo | on this debian machine i'm runnin an apache2 webserver with fcgid |
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| 21:47.24 | _ramo | if i benchmark this webserver, i get e really bad result... jut 5-6 requests per seconds that needs about 21 second for response |
| 21:47.39 | _ramo | i've installed atop to try figuring out the bottlenecks |
| 21:48.01 | _ramo | the only red line while benchmarking is: SWP | tot 1.9G | free 1.9G | | vmcom 4.1G | vmlim 3.8G | |
| 21:48.11 | _ramo | if i look at htop 1271 of 3966 MB of Mem are in use... and for Swp it says: 0/1952MB |
| 21:48.21 | _ramo | this is a virtual machine with 2 cpus and 4 gig of ram |
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| 21:49.28 | nsadmin | less enter key... more get to the question |
| 21:49.47 | _ramo | i don't know what that red line means |
| 21:49.52 | _ramo | or where the bottleneck is |
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| 21:50.03 | _ramo | or where to start searching |
| 21:50.19 | kevlarman | RA3OR: how much ram does the host have? |
| 21:50.25 | kevlarman | err _ramo |
| 21:50.25 | nsadmin | what's your load avg? |
| 21:50.31 | kevlarman | fails at tab |
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| 21:50.50 | joltman | i have an apache issue. I have installed CACTI according to the cacti docs. Cacti should be accessed by http://IP/cacti/ and the page comes up. however, when i click a link, the /cacti/ dir is not in the link. what am I doing wrong? Thanks! |
| 21:51.25 | joltman | cacti is loaded in /var/www/cacti |
| 21:51.38 | _ramo | kevlarman: 4 gig RAM |
| 21:51.43 | _ramo | nsadmin: how can i meaasure this? |
| 21:52.31 | kevlarman | _ramo: what vm software? |
| 21:52.45 | _ramo | kevlarman: virsh / kvm |
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| 21:52.56 | kevlarman | _ramo: try giving it less ram |
| 21:52.58 | evilsquelch | hello |
| 21:53.15 | _ramo | kevlarman: giving whome less ram? |
| 21:53.20 | kevlarman | the guest |
| 21:53.29 | _ramo | less ram? |
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| 21:53.41 | kevlarman | i know virtualbox mlock()s the guest's memory, if kvm does the same i wouldn't be surprised |
| 21:53.52 | kevlarman | that leaves nothing for the host |
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| 21:53.58 | kevlarman | which would be very bad |
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| 21:54.12 | _ramo | kevlarman: the host has 16 gig of ram |
| 21:54.23 | _ramo | nothing runs on that host expect 4 VMs |
| 21:54.39 | _ramo | 1.) 8 gig, 2.) 2 gig, 3.) 2 gig and the last (webserver) with 4 gig |
| 21:54.50 | kevlarman | exactly |
| 21:54.57 | kevlarman | that adds up to 16 |
| 21:55.00 | _ramo | yes |
| 21:55.13 | kevlarman | if kvm mlock()s the guests' memory, there's nothing left for the host |
| 21:55.27 | _ramo | hm, how much does the host need? |
| 21:55.46 | kevlarman | depends on what's running on it |
| 21:55.52 | FDFlock | obviously not 0! |
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| 21:55.56 | _ramo | kevlarman: just that 4 virtual machines |
| 21:56.12 | evilsquelch | the weirdest thing..i couldn't use any SSL authentication on my Debian sqeeze..but today it works fine.. Anyone else have this problem when they USB tether with a verizon phone? |
| 21:56.13 | kevlarman | but what FDFlock said :P |
| 21:57.11 | FDFlock | Hello everyone! :) Question: Didn't Debian use to mount /boot during kernel upgrades, in case /boot was marked as "noauto" in /etc/fstab? Do I remember wrong? |
| 21:57.16 | _ramo | okay, htop shows me on the host 15/15 used |
| 21:57.18 | _ramo | Gig |
| 21:57.19 | FDFlock | I just updated the kernel without mounting /boot first and made a mess... Yes, fixing it is easy, but it's a silly thing to happen in the first place |
| 21:57.48 | FDFlock | _ramo: I'd prefer "free -m" |
| 21:58.05 | _ramo | atop shows the red line: MEM | tot 15.6G | free 104.2M | cache 304.0M | buff 8.7M | slab 77.5M | |
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| 21:58.26 | nejucomo | When I start chromium-browser no window appears. There is a single error message on stderr: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" |
| 21:58.29 | _ramo | FDFlock: total used free shared buffers cached |
| 21:58.29 | _ramo | Mem: 15994 15889 105 0 8 304 |
| 21:58.40 | nejucomo | I don't see any bug reports about this in the debian bugs page. |
| 21:58.47 | nejucomo | Has anyone else experienced this? |
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| 21:59.04 | FDFlock | _ramo: Why don't you just leave some for the host, just to be safe? |
| 21:59.08 | nejucomo | I use an unusual desktop: started from slim, running xmonad; no gnome bloat. |
| 21:59.14 | FDFlock | nejucomo: Does changing GTK theme help? |
| 21:59.25 | _ramo | FDFlock: i'll add 1 gig for th host |
| 21:59.27 | _ramo | to see what happens |
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| 21:59.44 | nejucomo | duckduckgoes for how to change GTK theme. |
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| 22:00.09 | FDFlock | no idea, nejucomo... |
| 22:00.23 | FDFlock | ...unless you are using Gnome :) |
| 22:00.52 | FDFlock | BTW, is Xmonad difficult to configure for someone who does not know Haskell/ |
| 22:00.54 | FDFlock | ? |
| 22:01.11 | nejucomo | I suppose I should admit that I did 's/squeeze/wheezy/' in apt sources; then did apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; then later undid that search/replace, then did apt-get update; then uninstalled and reinstalled various packages… :-/ |
| 22:02.01 | nejucomo | FDFlock: Somewhat. It's easy to do simple customization by following examples (such as remapping key bindings or associating arbitrary commands with keybindings). |
| 22:02.23 | nejucomo | The syntax may be confusing. (The config file is haskell source!) |
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| 22:02.48 | FDFlock | nejucomo: I was wrong, canberra is not a theme engine, it's a sound-related thing |
| 22:03.02 | nejucomo | Anyway, I'm installing a new vm with debian squeeze and this time I intend to put in squeeze backports. Is that the right approach? |
| 22:03.18 | ksx4system | how do I run backports squeeze kernel on a Xen VPS (DomU)? |
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| 22:04.00 | FDFlock | nejucomo: I'm using squeeze, but I'd install wheezy if I was doing a new installation. Your needs might differ. |
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| 22:04.35 | thewanderer1 | will two files of originally the same contents encrypted with OpenSSL's RSA be the same after encryption too? |
| 22:04.42 | FDFlock | Of course, my little server will stay squeeze :) |
| 22:04.48 | nejucomo | FDFlock: wheezy seems unusable to me. Packages disappear all the time. |
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| 22:06.01 | _ramo | FDFlock: did you worked with virsh previously? |
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| 22:07.25 | FDFlock | _ramo: yes, but using a nice graphical frontend (virt-manager) |
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| 22:07.44 | _ramo | FDFlock: yes, i have this open |
| 22:07.54 | _ramo | i've shutted down the virtual machine and want to reduce the ram |
| 22:08.06 | _ramo | i've done this via console, but he didn't saved id |
| 22:08.52 | FDFlock | _ramo: For me it works fine with virt-manager, didn 't try otherwise |
| 22:09.06 | _ramo | FDFlock: how can you change this in virt-manager? |
| 22:09.42 | FDFlock | open VM, View->Details, Memory, set it there |
| 22:10.03 | FDFlock | And don't orget to pres "Apply"! |
| 22:10.07 | FDFlock | *forget |
| 22:10.31 | FDFlock | *press |
| 22:10.33 | _ramo | ohthis works when the machine is running too? |
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| 22:11.10 | FDFlock | no, it'll probably ask to apply the setting after the next guest (re)boot |
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| 22:11.47 | FDFlock | most things can't be changed while run ning |
| 22:12.26 | _ramo | FDFlock: okay, i've reduced 1 gig from one virtual machine |
| 22:12.29 | lapsusbrutus | Im in system "Daled" without any fuel. no ships here either.. possible to cheat fuel for a jump? |
| 22:12.33 | _ramo | but on host in atop i still see the red line |
| 22:12.42 | _ramo | i have reabooted the virtual machine where i have reduced 1 gig |
| 22:12.52 | FDFlock | lapsusbrutus: Wrong channel?! |
| 22:12.56 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: i would hope not |
| 22:13.13 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: that would leave them vulnerable to known plaintext attacks |
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| 22:13.43 | _ramo | FDFlock: is that normal? |
| 22:13.43 | thewanderer1 | kevlarman, I basically want to know if they can be used with deduplication |
| 22:13.48 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: you're supposed to pad the data with random bytes specifically to prevent that |
| 22:13.58 | thewanderer1 | oh... |
| 22:14.10 | thewanderer1 | I thought padding was preset and not random |
| 22:14.13 | FDFlock | I'm not an atop user |
| 22:14.27 | _ramo | FDFlock: free -m shows |
| 22:14.29 | _ramo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.29 | _ramo | Mem: 15994 15405 588 0 10 454 |
| 22:14.34 | _ramo | the same as above |
| 22:15.11 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: the entire purpose is to make it impossible to compare cleartext to ciphertext given the encryption key used |
| 22:15.54 | FDFlock | _ramo: You are interested in the "-/+ buffers/cache:" line! |
| 22:16.11 | thewanderer1 | kevlarman, hmm ok. what if I do need those to be comparable? it's protected by a password, anyway |
| 22:16.41 | FDFlock | _ramo: Otherwise, of course it will appear to use all the memory, it's called caching and is used to speed things up! |
| 22:17.08 | FDFlock | _ramo: Not using spare RAM for caching would be a waste |
| 22:17.36 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: you're asking for a weakness in your encryption algorithm |
| 22:18.19 | thewanderer1 | kevlarman, I'm asking for having identical inputs produce identical outputs |
| 22:18.24 | _ramo | FDFlock: that's what it shows: |
| 22:18.25 | _ramo | -/+ buffers/cache: 14940 1053 |
| 22:18.25 | _ramo | Swap: 32766 538 32228 |
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| 22:18.38 | FDFlock | kevlarman: What's wrong with pading with (eg.) zeroes? You got me curious. Any source I can look up? |
| 22:18.44 | FDFlock | *padding |
| 22:18.48 | kevlarman | FDFlock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Known_plaintext |
| 22:19.26 | FDFlock | thx |
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| 22:19.46 | FDFlock | forgot he doesn't have a browser right now but will check it later |
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| 22:20.41 | FDFlock | _ramo: So you have almost 1GB RAM free |
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| 22:20.47 | FDFlock | _ramo: As expected |
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| 22:21.01 | __zero | Is there any reason for su $USER -c $COMMAND to work perfectly if I execute it as root but doesn't work if it's inside a script that get run by a daemon (as root)? |
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| 22:21.32 | FDFlock | __zero: Is the daemon listed in sudoers? ;) |
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| 22:21.48 | kevlarman | FDFlock: su doesn't use sudoers |
| 22:22.09 | __zero | FDFlock: no but the daemon runs as root (i echoed whoami and i got root) |
| 22:22.11 | FDFlock | kevlarman: Oh, of course, I didn't notice |
| 22:22.13 | FDFlock | sorry |
| 22:22.38 | FDFlock | but who uses su nowadays :P |
| 22:22.56 | kevlarman | __zero: maybe your script isn't run from the folder you expect it to be? |
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| 22:23.26 | __zero | FDFlock: is there any other way to run a command as another user? |
| 22:23.44 | peterrooney | __zero: I would double check what PATH is set to inside your script |
| 22:23.49 | __zero | kevlarman: what do you mean? |
| 22:23.56 | thewanderer1 | kevlarman, well, I do need deterministic encryption with a 1<>1 mapping between inputs and outputs |
| 22:24.19 | __zero | peterrooney: already did that, there isnt any but all the commands are called with their full path (even su) |
| 22:24.30 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: ok, but that's a weakness that any decent algorithm explicitly avoids |
| 22:24.52 | FDFlock | __zero: sudo, obviously |
| 22:25.02 | kevlarman | or i should say any decent implementation |
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| 22:25.29 | thewanderer1 | kevlarman, it is a property I am after and I can't see how it would put my RSA-encrypted data in danger, really |
| 22:25.34 | _ramo | kevlarman: FDFlock if i benchmark now again, and look at atop, i see again the red line: SWP | tot 1.9G | free 1.9G | | vmcom 4.1G | vmlim 3.8G | |
| 22:25.52 | FDFlock | sudo can also set te environmental variables as needed, I don't even remember what su does |
| 22:25.55 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: well, first of all i doubt you have rsa encrypted data |
| 22:26.02 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: rsa is expensive |
| 22:26.19 | __zero | FDFlock: ill try to see how it goes then |
| 22:26.19 | kevlarman | it's used to secure an aes key |
| 22:26.22 | kevlarman | in ssl |
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| 22:26.46 | kevlarman | (which is much faster, and given a truely random key much harder to brute force than rsa) |
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| 22:27.30 | _ramo | do you guys have any idea how what else i can doo? |
| 22:27.39 | FDFlock | _ramo: I have no idea what atop does, but "free" is absolutely trustworthy, rest assured |
| 22:27.57 | FDFlock | _ramo: And free says that !GB of RAM has been freed! |
| 22:28.02 | FDFlock | *1GB |
| 22:28.23 | thewanderer1 | kevlarman, the use case is this: one unprivileged app (which can not read already encrypted files) drops files for other app which decrypts them, and the "other app" kind of expects checksums of same inputs to match |
| 22:28.33 | _ramo | FDFlock: yeah, now i have 3 gb ram free on my host... but my guest show the above red line if i do an ab benchmark on it |
| 22:28.56 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: then it shouldn't make that assumtion |
| 22:29.05 | FDFlock | WHAT THE **** IS THE RED LINE?!?!? |
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| 22:30.05 | kevlarman | thewanderer1: afaik you can encrypt a checksum of the data to follow without leaking information to someone without the decryption key, but i'm not a cryptanalysis expert, don't quote me on that |
| 22:30.14 | _ramo | FDFlock: that was my initial question above... i'm not sure, but i guess it shows some "critical" status |
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| 22:32.47 | FDFlock | _ramo: I'm using "htop" myself, you might like it... also, why red should mean critical or anything else? Read the manual of atop, I don't use it so I can't help you |
| 22:32.55 | peterrooney | kevlarman: I mightquote you on it, but I won't present it as authoriative. |
| 22:33.08 | FDFlock | ...but it might mean something completely different |
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| 22:33.20 | Bassliner | ZOMG I SEE RED LINEZ |
| 22:33.28 | Funkadelic | I put a little script together that should repeat a command a certain number of times. It should be ./script commandhere number_of_times_to_run_command. There's the script, but It's not stopping after the number of times http://pastebin.com/BUmHKTC3 |
| 22:33.41 | _ramo | FDFlock: yeah, i've used this tool, because it shows many information of ram, eth0, disk, etc. |
| 22:33.43 | Funkadelic | instead I get hi |
| 22:33.44 | Funkadelic | ./script: line 8: +: command not found over and over again |
| 22:33.55 | _ramo | htop is installed too here |
| 22:34.01 | Funkadelic | if I run ./script "echo hi" 3 |
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| 22:34.17 | Funkadelic | can anyone find my error? |
| 22:34.24 | _ramo | i just try to figure out where the bottleneck is for the apache to just can handle 7 requests per second |
| 22:35.17 | peterrooney | Funkadelic: because $i != $x |
| 22:35.19 | FDFlock | Funkadelic: is "x=[ $i + 1 ]" correct? I don't remember such syntax. Try adding "echo $x" to see if it gets incremented |
| 22:35.22 | kevlarman | Funkadelic: [ doesn't do what you think it does |
| 22:35.46 | FDFlock | Oh yes, it's "test" |
| 22:35.55 | abrotman | Funkadelic: ask the channel for your scripting language |
| 22:35.55 | FDFlock | is way too tired |
| 22:35.56 | Funkadelic | I'm really a dumbass |
| 22:35.56 | peterrooney | Funkadelic: #bash is very helpful about such things |
| 22:36.09 | Funkadelic | $i vs $x lol |
| 22:36.26 | Funkadelic | and thanks for the suggestion peterrooney |
| 22:36.30 | kevlarman | Funkadelic: also [ is /bin/test |
| 22:36.35 | peterrooney | Funkadelic: I've never compared $k to $t |
| 22:36.47 | peterrooney | chokes and coughs |
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| 22:37.57 | Funkadelic | I usually use $i as a counting variable, but I decided to use $x instead. So it should be x=(($x + 1)) or something? |
| 22:38.00 | Bassliner | FDFlock: http://paste.debian.net/162117/ |
| 22:38.14 | FDFlock | kevlarman: /usr/bin/test according to "which" but I think it's a bash builtin anyway |
| 22:38.19 | FDFlock | I might be wrong |
| 22:38.50 | FDFlock | Funkadelic: I'd use "let" but there are more than 1 ways to do it |
| 22:39.04 | kevlarman | FDFlock: it's /bin on osx |
| 22:39.11 | peterrooney | I learned FORTRAN first, so I almost always call my counters I, J, and K - X and Y are for screen co-ordinates |
| 22:39.16 | kevlarman | i'm currently lacking a linux |
| 22:39.32 | themill | kevlarman: all sane shells have test and [ as builtins |
| 22:39.38 | kevlarman | (stupid work mac refusing to do audio on linux) |
| 22:39.48 | Bassliner | themill: not correct. |
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| 22:40.14 | Bassliner | test, as well as [ are NOT shell builtins, but just binaries. |
| 22:40.18 | Bassliner | and yes, even [ is a binary. |
| 22:40.23 | kevlarman | themill: also true, but there are places where they get used that aren't parsed by a shell |
| 22:40.23 | FDFlock | kevlarman: do you miss it? I've never had a Mac, I wonder how usable they are for a Unix/Linux user |
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| 22:40.30 | Bassliner | unless you're scripting for posix sh, you want to use [[ and not [ |
| 22:40.39 | FDFlock | kevlarman: who wants to get deeper I mean |
| 22:40.39 | kevlarman | FDFlock: i'm using osx not by choice |
| 22:40.48 | kevlarman | FDFlock: it's my work box |
| 22:40.53 | kevlarman | at home i run linux |
| 22:41.03 | Funkadelic | Then to raise the $x variable by one, what would I use? |
| 22:41.10 | themill | Bassliner: you'll find that in every case you use test and [ you're using the shell builtin. "type -a [" |
| 22:41.16 | Bassliner | Funkadelic: http://paste.debian.net/162117/ |
| 22:41.45 | kevlarman | FDFlock: it very much has the foam padded feel that ubuntu loves to force on users |
| 22:41.48 | FDFlock | Funkadelic: "let x++" would work |
| 22:41.50 | FDFlock | I think |
| 22:42.02 | FDFlock | my bash-fu is rusty, and was never strong |
| 22:42.04 | Bassliner | themill: in bash shells you do, that's correct. |
| 22:42.18 | kevlarman | FDFlock: so if you like ubuntu out of the box, you'll like osx about the same/even more |
| 22:42.25 | Bassliner | themill: but you don't have to, and [ is perfectly valid as a command. |
| 22:42.28 | kevlarman | if you hate it, you'll hate osx about the same/even more |
| 22:42.34 | Bassliner | themill: and in posix shells, it is a command still, right? |
| 22:42.48 | themill | Bassliner: and dash, and posh, and ksh, ... as I said. In every sane shell. |
| 22:42.59 | FDFlock | kevlarman: I see, I don't really hate it, but I don't love it any more, either |
| 22:43.11 | Bassliner | themill: whatever you mean by sane, but as long as you declare it like so, i'm with you. |
| 22:43.25 | kevlarman | FDFlock: i do, but my work occasionally requires sound, and linux can't provide that... |
| 22:43.33 | kevlarman | so i'm stuck with a mac |
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| 22:44.22 | Funkadelic | What is this variable? I can't search it because it doesn't play nice with search engines: $@ |
| 22:44.29 | __zero | FDFlock: the sudo solution didn't work |
| 22:44.33 | FDFlock | kevlarman: What about jack and all the fancy stuff? (just curious)... Is it inadequate and/or hardwae-incompatib le? |
| 22:44.55 | FDFlock | __zero: id you use visudo to add the daemon? |
| 22:45.02 | themill | Funkadelic: you'd do better looking in "man bash" for that. |
| 22:45.21 | kevlarman | FDFlock: if alsa can't play sounds jack doesn't do much |
| 22:45.25 | __zero | FDFlock: the script is run as root (i checked with whoami) |
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| 22:45.31 | kevlarman | (same issue for ossv4, which i prefer atm) |
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| 22:45.43 | FDFlock | Funkadelic: And also the EXCELLENT http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ |
| 22:45.51 | Bassliner | seriously, i'd avoid the bash man page if you don't already know what you're doing |
| 22:46.03 | Bassliner | and i'd avoid the advanced bash guide as well |
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| 22:46.16 | FDFlock | Bassliner: Wait, what?! |
| 22:46.24 | kevlarman | i'd avoid bash :D |
| 22:46.25 | Bassliner | i wouldn't touch it with a stick. |
| 22:46.31 | Bassliner | kevlarman: i wouldn't. |
| 22:46.39 | FDFlock | and the reason? |
| 22:46.52 | kevlarman | Bassliner: i've been doing more and more in python |
| 22:46.57 | kevlarman | unless i badly need $() |
| 22:47.00 | Bassliner | kevlarman: which is perfectly good. |
| 22:47.09 | Bassliner | kevlarman: but i wouldn't avoid bash because of this. |
| 22:47.21 | FDFlock | learned everything he ever needed (and more) from the manpage and that guide |
| 22:47.21 | Bassliner | greg's wiki is a good starting point |
| 22:47.50 | FDFlock | kevlarman: good point about "stronger" scripting languages |
| 22:47.52 | Bassliner | FDFlock: fine with you. from my point of view, ABS is full of false techniques, and should be avoided, but that's just me. |
| 22:47.52 | themill | suspects it's well past time for this to move to #bash |
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| 22:48.13 | kevlarman | FDFlock: not "stronger", i'll still take bash over perl |
| 22:48.16 | Bassliner | #bash is an excellent point for learning bash btw |
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| 22:48.29 | FDFlock | Bassliner: Are you saying that th manpage id ful of false techniques as well? |
| 22:48.29 | kevlarman | FDFlock: unless some asshole used xml, then i use perl :( |
| 22:48.38 | FDFlock | *is |
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| 22:48.49 | kevlarman | FDFlock: the manpage is just unreadable unless you already know what to look for |
| 22:48.53 | Bassliner | FDFlock: no. it's just extremely hard to understand. if you don't just use it as a reference, avoid it. |
| 22:49.04 | Bassliner | kevlarman: exactly. |
| 22:49.12 | kevlarman | FDFlock: it needs to be split into about 50 man pages |
| 22:49.23 | kevlarman | maybe more |
| 22:49.39 | bunny69 | is there a tool than will limit a cpu usage for a process? |
| 22:49.41 | FDFlock | kevlarman: Of course Python is much more than the "scripting language" I called it |
| 22:50.00 | abrotman | bunny69: yes .. |
| 22:50.11 | bunny69 | hello abrotman |
| 22:50.12 | FDFlock | kevlarman: If you think the bash manpage is scary, wait to see mplayer's! |
| 22:50.27 | abrotman | FDFlock: kevlarman again .. ? |
| 22:50.30 | bunny69 | that* (my bad ..) |
| 22:50.39 | abrotman | bunny69: /msg dpkg search |
| 22:51.12 | kevlarman | FDFlock: this is getting more than a bit offtopic |
| 22:51.25 | FDFlock | abrotman, kevlarman : yeap, you are right, it's just that there were no Debian-related questions for a while |
| 22:51.28 | FDFlock | going to bed, bb |
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| 22:51.32 | abrotman | kevlarman: FDFlock maybe you two should actually join #debian-offtopic .. then you can just hang out there all the time |
| 22:51.48 | abrotman | FDFlock: just because there are no question doesn't mean you should start to ramble about whatever you want |
| 22:52.02 | kevlarman | abrotman: this discussion did start from answering a question |
| 22:52.14 | abrotman | which probably belonged in #bash anyway .. |
| 22:52.32 | RA3OR | <kevlarman> RA3OR: how much ram does the host have? |
| 22:52.38 | RA3OR | highlighted |
| 22:52.45 | RA3OR | goes back into darkness |
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| 22:52.57 | kevlarman | RA3OR: i occasionally fail at tab, sorry about that |
| 22:53.03 | RA3OR | np |
| 22:53.25 | RA3OR | does a long, complicated handshake with kevlarman |
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| 23:02.55 | allure | Is it correct to say that SMTP can be used to send AND RECEIVE emails? |
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| 23:03.50 | abrotman | allure: depending on the configuration, yes |
| 23:04.33 | allure | abrotman: so the protocol supports receiving email too? |
| 23:04.57 | abrotman | SMTP servers? |
| 23:05.02 | allure | abrotman: yes |
| 23:05.20 | abrotman | allure: it's a protocol .. it's the language spoken by the server and the client |
| 23:05.28 | abrotman | one is sending, one receiving ... |
| 23:06.09 | allure | abrotman: cool. Thank you :) |
| 23:06.30 | abrotman | allure: i feel like wikipedia could have answered that for you |
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| 23:07.24 | allure | abrotman: I've read it in my main language before comming... should've read in english, I think :D |
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| 23:08.18 | eugenmayer | is there any easy way to maintain a /etc/hosts file ? |
| 23:08.20 | abrotman | allure: no need to msg me |
| 23:08.26 | abrotman | eugenmayer: vi ? |
| 23:08.36 | allure | abrotman: so many times you answered my questions, I just wanted to give you a special thank you :) |
| 23:08.43 | abrotman | eugenmayer: maintain in what way ? |
| 23:08.47 | allure | abrotman: so, thank you a lot :))) |
| 23:08.48 | abrotman | allure: you can do that right here :) |
| 23:08.54 | allure | ok, sorry ;) |
| 23:09.06 | abrotman | it's okay .. we just generally like to keep disucssion in the channel |
| 23:09.20 | allure | (; |
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| 23:09.26 | eugenmayer | abrotman: rather using debian packages. Or being more specific, i have different packages like bacula, maintain this and that needing to enter some hosts entty which can change for alle clients which cannot / should not use the main DNS server |
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| 23:09.53 | abrotman | eugenmayer: wait what? |
| 23:09.58 | eugenmayer | abrotman: sure i could go some kind of dnsmasq way for a local DNS, but somehow feeling thats kind of an overkill |
| 23:10.03 | abrotman | eugenmayer: you want all hosts to have a templated /etc/hosts ? |
| 23:10.09 | abrotman | but have many common entries? |
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| 23:10.22 | eugenmayer | abramart: yes, lets say /etc/hosts.d/ |
| 23:11.55 | abrotman | eugenmayer: i don't think /etc/hosts.d/ exists (not an awful idea though) .. but you can look at things like nis, cfengine, puppet, chef, etckeeper maybe ... i've been working with puppet, it can do what you're asking |
| 23:12.06 | abrotman | though it might be over kill |
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| 23:12.16 | eugenmayer | abrotman: chef is in place, but yet not widly used |
| 23:12.22 | abrotman | okay, there you go |
| 23:12.55 | eugenmayer | abrotman: maybe its time to get all the clients into chef, as i need to migrate servers to our cluster, IP change, network changes and all this |
| 23:13.12 | eugenmayer | *proxmox clusters |
| 23:13.43 | LtL | depends where you are in Canada actually |
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| 23:13.58 | LtL | sorry, wrong channel, pardons |
| 23:14.04 | abrotman | thought so :) |
| 23:14.22 | eugenmayer | abrotman: puppet is just a differen chef=? |
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| 23:14.33 | abrotman | eugenmayer: you could also do it another way .. you could have a per host file, and then a shared file .. rsync the shared file to each system and then have a cron job merge the two |
| 23:14.44 | abrotman | eugenmayer: puppet and chef are roughly the same |
| 23:15.02 | eugenmayer | abrotman: any particular reason you prefer puppet? |
| 23:15.39 | abrotman | eugenmayer: just what i went with .. |
| 23:15.55 | eugenmayer | ok, no "deal breaker" or something. Ok thanks for your hints! |
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| 23:21.30 | steampunkey | any reason why the net device would be named 'rename3'? also, where is it? it's not in /dev/. thanks |
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| 23:22.14 | steampunkey | *etherned device. instead of eth0, that is |
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| 23:23.16 | abrotman | network devies are never in /dev/ and if you don't like it, use ifrename or /msg dpkg z70 |
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| 23:23.25 | eugenmayer | abrotman: using apt-mirror right now, do you think its better using deb-mirror for mirroring squeeze / lenny ? |
| 23:23.56 | abrotman | eugenmayer: how many systems are using the mirror? |
| 23:24.04 | steampunkey | abrotman: thanks, and where is it then? and why is it renamed? |
| 23:24.14 | eugenmayer | abrotman: no many, only internal. Lets say 20-50 |
| 23:24.20 | abrotman | steampunkey: i don't know why it was renamed .. you have the logs |
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| 23:24.36 | abrotman | eugenmayer: you should probably use something like approx instead .. far more efficient |
| 23:24.57 | evilsquelch | lkj |
| 23:24.58 | evilsquelch | l |
| 23:25.00 | evilsquelch | whayt? |
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| 23:25.30 | eugenmayer | abrotman: i rather really need a mirror, as my clients can access the internet |
| 23:25.40 | eugenmayer | abrotman: looks like approx is rather a caching mech. ? |
| 23:25.43 | abrotman | eugenmayer: your statement doesn't make sense |
| 23:25.50 | abrotman | eugenmayer: yes, it's a proxy |
| 23:25.51 | eugenmayer | abrotman: VPN |
| 23:26.10 | abrotman | eugenmayer: your proxy downloads it once as requested, then the clients get the package from your proxy |
| 23:26.12 | eugenmayer | abrotman: all my clients are locked down, cant access public mirrors, but only the maintain-net |
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| 23:26.25 | eugenmayer | abrotman: i undestand |
| 23:26.38 | abrotman | eugenmayer: okay .. but approx is generally more efficient |
| 23:26.39 | tedd | http://paste.ubuntu.com/915308/ |
| 23:26.51 | abrotman | unless your systtems are completely non-similar |
| 23:26.58 | tedd | can anyone take a look at that |
| 23:27.24 | eugenmayer | abrotman: 95% debian squeeze, rest lenny |
| 23:27.46 | themill | tedd: what are the permissions on /etc/grub.d/README? |
| 23:28.04 | tedd | themill: they are probably wrong let me check |
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| 23:28.17 | abrotman | how would they get wrong ? |
| 23:29.02 | tedd | themill : 755 |
| 23:29.33 | themill | tedd: a README file shouldn't be executable, should it? |
| 23:29.49 | tedd | nah it shouldnt |
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| 23:34.06 | LtL | eugenmayer: chmod 644 the README file, mine is. might help |
| 23:34.20 | Funkadelic | Does anyone know of a way to use a socks proxy with Chromium if and only if I'm in incognito mode? |
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| 23:34.50 | abrotman | LtL: worng person |
| 23:35.14 | LtL | abrotman: ah, sorry... tedd 644 it |
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| 23:35.33 | LtL | eugenmayer: sorry 'bout that. |
| 23:36.07 | tedd | thx |
| 23:36.17 | Funkadelic | I'm trying to create a secure anonymous web browsing environment, but when I'm logged into gmail/facebook/etc my info can leak over and associate my proxy with my personal info |
| 23:36.41 | Funkadelic | so that's why I need chromium to switch over to the proxy when I'm in incognito mode, and no other time |
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| 23:41.59 | eugenmayer | any list of stil avail debian lenny mirrors for main contrib non-free + security? |
| 23:42.20 | abrotman | eugenmayer: archive.debian.org |
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| 23:43.04 | eugenmayer | abrotman: also for security? |
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| 23:43.11 | abrotman | yeah |
| 23:43.18 | abrotman | security support for lenny has ended |
| 23:43.29 | eugenmayer | yeah, i remember |
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| 23:59.49 | innociv | Does anyone know what amazon does with EC2 when you get DDoS attacked? Do they null route you or do they mitigate it? |