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| 00:09.48 | madsci44 | hmm thats odd: #aptitude install linux-source-3.2 yields: "No candidate version found for kernel-source" |
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| 00:18.43 | Maccer | In grub-legacy, where are the boot menu entrees located at? I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst, maybe it's different in debian |
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| 00:20.32 | abrotman | you're using grub-legacy ? that file would exist if you were |
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| 00:21.08 | yuurbaa | I'm sorry for asking this here, but my IRC client is saying that #debian-next is invite-only. I'm running testing, and I'm encountering problems with my config file for awesome wm. It seems $XDG_CONFIG_HOME isn't getting set, so it's looking for the configs in /etc/xdg. |
| 00:21.28 | dvs | yuurbaa: It's on irc.oftc.net |
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| 00:22.44 | yuurbaa | dvs: Thanks. |
| 00:23.20 | dvs | np |
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| 00:31.47 | Maccer | abrotman: I know, I can't believe it myself. Debian's weird sometimes. |
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| 00:32.31 | jwayne | Maccer: what are you replying to? |
| 00:32.55 | jwayne | (wondering if quassel is missing stuff..) |
| 00:33.02 | Maccer | jwayne: > <Maccer> In grub-legacy, where are the boot menu entrees located at? I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst, maybe it's different in debian > <abrotman> you're using grub-legacy ? that file would exist if you were |
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| 00:33.21 | jwayne | ah ok |
| 00:33.44 | Maccer | The only place I can find menu.lst is @ /usr/share/doc/grub-legacy/examples/menu.lst |
| 00:34.31 | dvs | /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 00:35.08 | abrotman | Maccer: maybve you shuld verify before you hunt down files that hsouldn't exist? |
| 00:35.19 | Maccer | abramart: Verify... what? |
| 00:35.41 | abrotman | which bootloader you're using ? |
| 00:35.42 | Maccer | dvs: Oh, so it's a shell script? Ok. |
| 00:35.46 | Maccer | grub-legacy |
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| 00:35.59 | abrotman | yeah, you keep sayin gthat ... but the control file doesn't exist |
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| 00:36.36 | Maccer | It does on other distros abrotman... at least on Arch. |
| 00:37.05 | jwayne | oh crap.. |
| 00:37.08 | Maccer | But yeah it's in /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 00:37.13 | jwayne | sid update to the linux kernel.. |
| 00:37.17 | abrotman | then it's not grub-legacy |
| 00:37.22 | jwayne | *crosses finger... and upgrades* |
| 00:37.58 | Maccer | abrotman: I don't have the package installed. Maybe it's a remain of grub2 that I could have tried to install. |
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| 00:38.23 | abrotman | if you say so .. |
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| 01:09.32 | raden | how do i make it so eth0 is always up |
| 01:09.41 | raden | i have it set static address in interfaces |
| 01:09.49 | raden | when i log out it shutsdown eth0 |
| 01:10.57 | tekzilla | raden: you mean logout with your user ? thats extremely weird |
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| 01:11.07 | raden | tekzilla, driving me nutz |
| 01:11.07 | abrotman | not if he setup the stuff with network-manager |
| 01:11.18 | abrotman | did you check the box to allow all users to use it ? |
| 01:11.18 | raden | ablemann, i setup in interfaces |
| 01:11.32 | raden | then i had to with network manager and yes all users can use it |
| 01:11.56 | abrotman | interfaces and n-m don't really work together, so one of them isn't working right |
| 01:13.01 | tekzilla | shouldnt n-m just pickup whats in interfaces and leave it alone ? just for my own understanding |
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| 01:14.21 | abrotman | does that seem like what's happening? |
| 01:15.24 | tekzilla | not really.. never used n-m on a machine with static iface setup |
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| 01:17.50 | baronobeefdip | hello i need some help with my pxe server |
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| 01:18.24 | raden | abrotman, they seem like they cant get along :( |
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| 01:18.40 | abrotman | then can if you setup the stuff correctly |
| 01:18.48 | abrotman | raden: paste your interfaces file , paste.debian.net |
| 01:19.02 | raden | when did debian get so i dont want to say broken but i cant find a lighter word :( i have never had any issues with debian till this install |
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| 01:19.50 | tekzilla | baronobeefdip: whats wrong |
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| 01:20.05 | baronobeefdip | i am trying to get my pxe server booting an iso image but i keep getting errors |
| 01:20.24 | abrotman | raden: perhaps you haven't adapted to new ways? |
| 01:20.32 | baronobeefdip | i downloaded my iso image and put in the information and it keeps telling me that the ramdisk image wasn't specified |
| 01:20.47 | raden | http://paste.debian.net/163355/ |
| 01:20.52 | baronobeefdip | i downloaded ubuntu as a test and put in this information |
| 01:21.02 | raden | abrotman, its like anything sometimes u just need to figure out how to use it differently |
| 01:21.09 | raden | I love apt-get and debian stability |
| 01:21.13 | abrotman | raden: paste your interfaces file , paste.debian.net |
| 01:21.15 | raden | but this network issues just gah |
| 01:21.16 | baronobeefdip | Label Ubuntu |
| 01:21.24 | raden | abrotman, i did |
| 01:21.25 | baronobeefdip | Menu Label Ubuntu |
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| 01:21.38 | raden | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/163355/ |
| 01:21.40 | baronobeefdip | Kernel memdisk |
| 01:21.56 | baronobeefdip | and them INITRD=ubuntu.iso |
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| 01:22.28 | raden | abrotman, see anything wrong ? |
| 01:22.30 | tekzilla | baronobeefdip: i dont think that can work |
| 01:22.35 | baronobeefdip | i try booting the pxe server and i get the menu and everything but when it comes to booting the iso image memdisk now loads fine but it's asking me for a ramdisk image to specify |
| 01:22.49 | baronobeefdip | the what will work |
| 01:23.12 | baronobeefdip | i read that this would be possible with the memdisk kernel |
| 01:23.39 | baronobeefdip | i have also read countless articles through google searching and turned up nothing |
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| 01:24.13 | baronobeefdip | i seriously need some help |
| 01:25.10 | tekzilla | baronobeefdip: i'm also looking right now, never tried that before, just with normal nfs root filesystems |
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| 01:26.03 | baronobeefdip | if not the iso image then can it be done by extracting the contents of the iso file somewhere and make the pxe server link to the ramdisk image (whatever that is) and have it boot from there |
| 01:26.07 | abrotman | raden: looking |
| 01:26.33 | baronobeefdip | i'm just thinking of ideas and i really wanted it to work with the iso image |
| 01:26.34 | abrotman | raden: seems like it hsould work .. i'd just tell network-manager to to try to manage eth0 |
| 01:28.21 | raden | thery fight each other |
| 01:28.25 | baronobeefdip | regularly livecds use the vmlinuz kernel to boot themselves (grub i guess it for booting from harddrive while the syslinux method is done for the livcds |
| 01:28.42 | ^Busy^ | I'm allowing users to have Web space in their home directory (~/www per user) -- is 755 an acceptable permission for this directory (it is owned by user:user)? |
| 01:28.54 | baronobeefdip | and the syslinux developers claimed that memdisk can help emulate the vmlinuz process but i'm losing faith here |
| 01:29.11 | ^Busy^ | There is no PHP/Perl or any other (fast)CGI for this nginx installation if that changes things. |
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| 01:30.37 | abrotman | ^Busy^: 755 is fine |
| 01:31.00 | ^Busy^ | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 01:31.35 | baronobeefdip | i still need some hekp |
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| 01:32.33 | baronobeefdip | help, this pxelinux thing is getting very frustrating, i have already tried extracting the image to a directory somewhere on the tftp server root directory and directing the initrd declaration to the initrd.gz file and i keep getting errors |
| 01:33.20 | baronobeefdip | memdisk was said to have the ability to boot livecds over the network via pxelinux |
| 01:33.46 | baronobeefdip | but i am not seeing any of that going on right now, i know it can be done since i have seen it done on youtube with syslinux and pxelinux\ |
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| 01:41.24 | tekzilla | baronobeefdip: get the netinst iso, there should be a netboot.tar.gz contained with a kernel and ramdisk that should work |
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| 01:43.36 | baronobeefdip | i wanted to use other live cds like ubuntu, backtrack and whatnot on the pxe server without downloading anything extra or different other than the iso themselves, i want to be able to boot the live media over the network via the pxe server, i don't want to download any additional kernel images or download an operating system dedicated to running pxe linux, i want to get it working on debian so that i may get it working on oth |
| 01:43.37 | baronobeefdip | er operating systems as well |
| 01:44.26 | baronobeefdip | the suggestion you gave me looks like the debian networking install dvd, this is not what i was looking for |
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| 01:47.27 | madsci44 | hey baronbeefdip i have some experience with that |
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| 01:49.09 | tekzilla | baronobeefdip: well sorry man, hope you can figure it out |
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| 01:49.49 | madsci44 | baronobeefdip - you should just be able to create menu entries to point directly to the ISO files - you should not have to unpack them |
| 01:50.16 | clone_of_saturn | does anyone know how to get a list of installed packages which are older than the version in squeeze, without trying to resolve dependencies? |
| 01:50.40 | baronobeefdip | i have been trying to find out how to do that, but to no avail. do you know how to do it since i have been getting nowhere with researching this so ar |
| 01:51.24 | madsci44 | yup - what ISO are you trying to serve for an example? I can give you an exmaple for partition magic if you like |
| 01:52.16 | madsci44 | but first - is your tftpd and menu showing properly on the client? |
| 01:52.32 | baronobeefdip | i am trying to serve ubuntu and backtrack (debian soon) |
| 01:52.36 | tekzilla | baronobeefdip: did you do "APPEND iso" in the menu-file or whereever |
| 01:52.48 | baronobeefdip | yes but let me try it again |
| 01:53.46 | abrotman | !tell clone_of_saturn about which repo |
| 01:54.29 | baronobeefdip | so i did setup like this excluding the menylable i know that works |
| 01:54.34 | baronobeefdip | kernel memdisk |
| 01:54.39 | baronobeefdip | APPEND iso |
| 01:54.44 | baronobeefdip | initrd=BT5.iso |
| 01:55.21 | baronobeefdip | it should work i'm trying it out right now |
| 01:55.50 | madsci44 | for EXAMPLE.iso located in /srv/tftp/isolib/ i would use following stanzas, "LABEL exampleiso", "MENU LABEL Choose this to install example ISO", "LINUX memdisk", "INITRD /isolib/EXAMPLE.iso", "APPEND iso vmalloc=256M" |
| 01:55.52 | baronobeefdip | memdisk worked but it told me there was no ramdisk image specified |
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| 01:56.21 | baronobeefdip | i'll try your stanzas |
| 01:56.26 | madsci44 | ..where vmalloc should be enough to fit the ISO and I usually use double if its not too huge |
| 01:56.41 | fooflah | hi, i am having some problems with dpkg can someone help me ? |
| 01:56.50 | baronobeefdip | but is the directory for the initrd root to the harddrive or to the root of the tftp server itseld which is in /tftpboot |
| 01:56.54 | fooflah | i want to list the category and the package name |
| 01:57.09 | fooflah | so httpd cat=tools |
| 01:57.11 | fooflah | how i do that? |
| 01:57.28 | fooflah | dpkg -l not giving the category / section |
| 01:57.28 | dpkg | ii not giving the category / section 1.8-12.1 fooflah's private gamp collection |
| 01:57.29 | abrotman | what is "httpd" |
| 01:57.31 | madsci44 | I <baronobeefdip> believe its relative to tftpd directory |
| 01:57.35 | tekzilla | baronobeefdip: you can use relative and absolute paths |
| 01:57.42 | fooflah | package name |
| 01:57.49 | abrotman | fooflah: in which Distro ? |
| 01:57.52 | fooflah | httpd.version |
| 01:57.56 | fooflah | deb6 |
| 01:57.57 | fooflah | deb5 |
| 01:57.58 | fooflah | ubuntu |
| 01:58.00 | fooflah | anything |
| 01:58.03 | baronobeefdip | so sinc ei have the iso in the /tftpboot directory the initrd stanza should say initrd BT5.iso |
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| 01:58.06 | abrotman | there is no package named "httpd" in Debian |
| 01:58.13 | madsci44 | in my menu its listed as an absolute path so its treating the tftpd directory as its root |
| 01:58.27 | fooflah | i gave httpd as an example , it might as well be libc |
| 01:58.31 | fooflah | or glibc |
| 01:58.31 | tekzilla | baronobeefdip: yeah taht should work |
| 01:58.47 | fooflah | i want each package and the section with the dpkg command if possible |
| 01:58.48 | madsci44 | can always check logs to verify if it doesnt find it and adjust from there |
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| 01:59.48 | baronobeefdip | alright do you need the = in the initrd stanza because i just put it in the way you told me but i am getting that the initial ramdisk BT5.iso wasn't found |
| 02:00.43 | hellodamdam | ok i read a guide on how to hex edit a trojan to make it fud. APPARENTLY. why do i not believe that mbam wont find it, i dunno. i guess we will see |
| 02:01.01 | abrotman | how is that related to Debian ? |
| 02:01.01 | hellodamdam | but the next thing i need to know, is where to get a /clean/ /not-backdoored/ trojan? |
| 02:01.06 | hellodamdam | oops |
| 02:01.06 | hellodamdam | sorry |
| 02:01.08 | hellodamdam | wrong chan |
| 02:01.23 | baronobeefdip | now when i use the = memdisk loaded but it's telling me that no ramdisk was specified. what does this mean |
| 02:01.28 | fooflah | abrotman: any ideas? |
| 02:01.36 | baronobeefdip | and what stanza do i need to add |
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| 02:01.48 | abrotman | based on your vague question, no |
| 02:02.11 | madsci44 | baronobeefdip: mine works as I typed without = |
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| 02:02.23 | baronobeefdip | what version of syslinux are you using |
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| 02:02.49 | baronobeefdip | i mean downloaded, i downloaded the one from the debian squeeze repositories and found the kernel files in the /usr/lib/syslinux |
| 02:02.54 | baronobeefdip | directory |
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| 02:03.09 | baronobeefdip | for the tftp server i am using the package openbsd-inetd |
| 02:03.18 | madsci44 | <baronobeefdip> isolinux on mine is 2:4.05+dfsg-2 |
| 02:04.19 | baronobeefdip | 2:4.02 over here, has anything changed between the two |
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| 02:04.58 | madsci44 | <baronobeefdip> I doubt it but I dont know for sure - make sure to copy pxelinux.0 into your tftp root direcly from /usr/lib/syslinux/ |
| 02:05.21 | baronobeefdip | i did that |
| 02:05.30 | madsci44 | I have found sometimes other packages may have older/other versions of it |
| 02:05.50 | madsci44 | what part is it getting stuck on? |
| 02:06.08 | madsci44 | dir |
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| 02:06.13 | madsci44 | oops |
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| 02:06.19 | baronobeefdip | after memdisk loaded on the client side it tells me that a ramdisk image wasn't specified |
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| 02:07.20 | baronobeefdip | also memdisk doesn't go that far is i don't specify an = in the initrd stanza but when i do it give me the peter anvin prompt and all btu stops asking me for a ramdisk image |
| 02:07.48 | baronobeefdip | i mean stops to ask me for a ramdisk image which i though i specified wich was on the iso file |
| 02:08.59 | madsci44 | try copying vesamenu.c32 into your tftp root from /usr/lib/syslinux/ , and add stanza "KERNEL vesamenu.c32" |
| 02:09.20 | madsci44 | ...right after the "MENU LABEL" stanza |
| 02:10.23 | baronobeefdip | turns out it's still not finding the iso image, i changed the initrd stanza to a location where the iso image is not located and i get the successful memdisk loaded screen but then it asks me for a ramdisk image, nothing changed between the two so i think it's simply not finding the iso image |
| 02:10.45 | madsci44 | ah |
| 02:11.32 | madsci44 | other thing incase you have futher issues after you solve the path - make sure memdisk in tftp root is also from the installed syslinux version |
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| 02:11.54 | madsci44 | I suspect you probably did that already though.. |
| 02:12.30 | baronobeefdip | okay so i have the stanza KERNEL memdisk and KERNEL vesamenu.c32 and i get the ramdisk image not specified error again |
| 02:12.58 | baronobeefdip | it is all of the kernel files are from the installed syslinux version from the debian repo server |
| 02:13.06 | madsci44 | sorry skip the vesamenu one |
| 02:13.43 | madsci44 | on mine I have LINUX memdisk , - not KERNEL memdisk |
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| 02:20.01 | baronobeefdip | alright i'll give that a try |
| 02:20.23 | baronobeefdip | still nothing it's still looking for a ramdisk image |
| 02:20.54 | baronobeefdip | let me post my stanzas again |
| 02:21.06 | baronobeefdip | MENU LABEL BackTrack 5 R2 |
| 02:21.09 | baronobeefdip | LINUX memdisk |
| 02:21.23 | baronobeefdip | APPEND iso vmalloc=256m |
| 02:21.30 | baronobeefdip | INITRD=BT5.iso |
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| 02:22.30 | madsci44 | no = after INITRD just a space in my working version |
| 02:23.08 | baronobeefdip | okay |
| 02:23.25 | madsci44 | ... not sure if it matters. Also, I put the APPEND statement after the INITRD - again not sure if it matters, but thats generally the way it is written in most examples I've seen |
| 02:23.32 | baronobeefdip | still saying it could not find ramdisk image BT5.iso |
| 02:24.11 | baronobeefdip | still nothing |
| 02:25.06 | straterra | uh...the iso image is an initrd? |
| 02:25.09 | straterra | I..kinda doubt that |
| 02:25.17 | madsci44 | also check permissions on BT5.iso and tftp folder? tftpd user needst o access it |
| 02:25.34 | baronobeefdip | no it's a vmlinuz (when i boot it from the disk drive it uses vmlinuz |
| 02:25.53 | baronobeefdip | i thought memdisk was suppossed to boot all kinds of bootloaders |
| 02:26.18 | madsci44 | yeah it works on mine for everything from partition magic to firmware update iso images |
| 02:27.28 | madsci44 | also do you have a plain LABEL stanza preceeding the MENU LABEL line? |
| 02:27.40 | baronobeefdip | root owns the folder |
| 02:27.46 | madsci44 | such as LABEL BT5image |
| 02:27.48 | baronobeefdip | which kinda explians alot |
| 02:27.58 | madsci44 | root owning is fine - just make sure its world readable |
| 02:28.05 | baronobeefdip | do i change it with a chmod |
| 02:28.41 | baronobeefdip | i saw root when i ran an ls -ld |
| 02:28.42 | madsci44 | 755 |
| 02:29.34 | baronobeefdip | alright i did a chmod -r 755 /tftpboot |
| 02:29.47 | madsci44 | what directory path is the BT5image located in? |
| 02:30.18 | madsci44 | or rather BT5.iso - sorry |
| 02:30.22 | baronobeefdip | the tftpboot directory |
| 02:30.27 | baronobeefdip | this one /tftpboot |
| 02:30.31 | madsci44 | is it also world readable? |
| 02:30.58 | baronobeefdip | how do i check |
| 02:31.07 | madsci44 | oh you did -r nevermind - it is now :) |
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| 02:31.28 | baronobeefdip | i want to be sure how do i check to see if it is world readable |
| 02:31.32 | madsci44 | your tftpboot is in the root? not under /srv ? |
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| 02:31.52 | madsci44 | just ls -l /tftpboot/BT5.iso |
| 02:31.56 | baronobeefdip | yes the exact location of it is in the /tftpboot directory on the drive |
| 02:32.20 | baronobeefdip | everything says root |
| 02:32.28 | baronobeefdip | everything says root root |
| 02:32.30 | madsci44 | it should show like rwxr-xr-x |
| 02:32.39 | baronobeefdip | it's not |
| 02:32.46 | baronobeefdip | so it's a chmod 755 |
| 02:32.54 | madsci44 | yes |
| 02:33.05 | madsci44 | what is it now? |
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| 02:34.02 | baronobeefdip | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root BT5.iso |
| 02:34.24 | madsci44 | ok thats fine then |
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| 02:34.39 | baronobeefdip | okay now i'm going to boot it again |
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| 02:35.02 | madsci44 | have you checked /var/log/daemon.log for tftpd messages? |
| 02:36.26 | baronobeefdip | nothing seems to be wrong it's just saying that it served everything fine so tftp server isn't the problem |
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| 02:36.42 | lwizardl | hello |
| 02:36.58 | lwizardl | is there a way to stop adding a trash folder to external drives ? |
| 02:37.29 | somiaj | lwizardl: you are using gnome? |
| 02:37.35 | lwizardl | yes |
| 02:37.47 | somiaj | lwizardl: sounds like a nautilus setting (the gnome file manager) |
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| 02:38.32 | baronobeefdip | still didn't work |
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| 02:38.47 | lwizardl | somiaj, okay thanks |
| 02:38.56 | madsci44 | how did you set up your dhcp.conf ? are you using that to serve the pxelinux.0 file? |
| 02:39.12 | baronobeefdip | yes and the pxelinux.0 file is being served fine |
| 02:39.17 | madsci44 | is your menu label coming up as a choice on the client? |
| 02:39.37 | lwizardl | would labeling a drive in gparted remove the files on it ? or would it just be renaming it ? I don't want to loose the files on it but the mount point always currently is like 195.3GB |
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| 02:40.28 | baronobeefdip | let me retrace my steps |
| 02:40.34 | somiaj | lwizardl: adding/changing a label on a partition/file system shouldn't effect the data |
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| 02:40.53 | somiaj | lwizardl: though be careful on the file system, because I belive the label is a part of the file system. |
| 02:41.13 | baronobeefdip | i installed syslinux and openbsd-inetd and isc-dhcp-server |
| 02:41.51 | lwizardl | somiaj, then i will leave it alone for now |
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| 02:43.56 | baronobeefdip | i set up the openbsd-inetd server's tftp dameon to use the /tftpboot directory as the root directory, i also set up the dhcp server as a normal one but added the filename "pxelinux.0" and nextserver line in the subnet declaration. i also copied the pxelinux.0 file from the /usr/lib/syslinux folder to the /tftpboot directory and when i booted from the network it worked fine. copied all of the menus and the memdisk kernel to th |
| 02:43.57 | baronobeefdip | e tftpboot root folder too and i got a splash menu and everything worked i just need the iso images to boot |
| 02:44.33 | Jareth3d | someone know a good how-to to help me to setup a propely "xen" and Web Interface? |
| 02:44.53 | madsci44 | mine is running as standalone daemon - tftpd-hpa package |
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| 02:45.20 | baronobeefdip | so can that be the problem' |
| 02:45.27 | madsci44 | hot sure |
| 02:45.32 | madsci44 | ^Not |
| 02:45.33 | baronobeefdip | i am using the openbsd-inetd as the tftp daemon |
| 02:45.58 | baronobeefdip | i'm going to start from scratch then |
| 02:46.19 | baronobeefdip | but then i'll use the tftpd-hpa package instead of the tftpd one |
| 02:46.31 | baronobeefdip | unless you think it doesn't matter |
| 02:46.34 | madsci44 | I know that my system is set up to default to /srv/tftp yours seems not to be under srv directory? so that could be a different default due to the inetd version |
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| 02:47.05 | madsci44 | but I cant remember if that was out of the box or if I did something to put it there since I can be kind of pick about what goes where on my system |
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| 02:47.43 | madsci44 | I would try the tftpd-hpa package for sure |
| 02:47.49 | baronobeefdip | okay |
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| 02:48.03 | baronobeefdip | so i guess openbsd-inetd isn't good to use |
| 02:48.41 | baronobeefdip | it still confuses me that it's reading the pxelinux.0 bootstrap fine but not the iso images |
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| 02:50.29 | baronobeefdip | by the way did you have to do any chmodding or did you have to in order for everything to work |
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| 02:52.14 | madsci44 | no everything had the right permissions when i set it up - if your umask is different your mileage will vary |
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| 02:52.43 | madsci44 | im sure the openbsd works, but I have no experience with it, and there can be small differences - particularly in the paths |
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| 02:52.55 | madsci44 | which debian are you running? |
| 02:53.11 | baronobeefdip | squeeze |
| 02:53.28 | madsci44 | im pretty sure your tftp should be under /srv folder |
| 02:53.48 | baronobeefdip | by default where is the tftpd-hpa's root directory |
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| 02:54.31 | madsci44 | in /srv/tftpd ? let me check on another system that i havent messed with to verify thats the default location |
| 02:55.30 | madsci44 | baronbeefdip: sorry correction it is /srv/tftp not tftpd |
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| 02:56.01 | baronobeefdip | alright i' still continuing on with the new debian install, it should take long since it's virtual |
| 02:56.07 | dheerajchand | Hello all! |
| 02:56.18 | madsci44 | the default installation sets the owner as root and group as nogroup for the tftp directory |
| 02:56.49 | dheerajchand | I'm having some trouble installing gitolite on debian Lenny, following these instructions: http://mrich.jtgws.org/2011/06/30/gitolite-on-debian-lenny/ Anyone mind helping out? |
| 02:56.52 | baronobeefdip | guess i'll have to change that later, to change the permissions of the folder i have to use chmod 755? |
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| 02:57.21 | madsci44 | you should not have to worry about that if the install created the folder for you - which it should when you install tftpd-hpa |
| 02:57.22 | somiaj | dheerajchand: debian lenny is not supported any more and you should upgrade to squeeze. |
| 02:58.00 | dheerajchand | somiaj: Thanks for the advice. Let me run this past my co-devs |
| 02:58.18 | abrotman | it doesn't have security support |
| 02:58.39 | somiaj | dheerajchand: if you want to keep using lenny (with out security support) you can |
| 02:58.53 | somiaj | dheerajchand: but you will have to modify those instructions to point at 'archive.debian.org' which is where lenny now lives |
| 02:59.01 | somiaj | (which means chaning your whole sources.list file) |
| 02:59.32 | dheerajchand | Got it |
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| 02:59.48 | somiaj | so my guess is the reason those instructions were not working was because you won't find the backports on backports.debian.org anymore |
| 03:00.48 | baronobeefdip | so debian is now re-installing and i'm going to try everything from scratch since i just now picked up on this project after putting it off for 3 days |
| 03:00.51 | dheerajchand | I see, I see |
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| 03:04.56 | thepro4ever | i just upgraded from debian lenny to debian squeeze |
| 03:05.02 | thepro4ever | how can i tell i'm running squeeze now? |
| 03:05.17 | baronobeefdip | cat /etc/issue |
| 03:05.32 | dvs | thepro4ever: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:06.20 | somiaj | thepro4ever: or use lsb_release -r (sometimes those text files are not correct) |
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| 03:20.59 | n-iCe | I have dell inspirion mini 1018 but I cant ifconfig wlan0 up says is blocked because rfkill |
| 03:21.30 | lain- | do you have a button on your laptop that enables or disables wifi? |
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| 03:21.41 | lain- | i get that message if i toggle it to disable wifi |
| 03:22.38 | n-iCe | lain-: no |
| 03:25.04 | lain- | I encountered a problem with my PPPoE connection. When following the offcial debian guide regarding the subject I get past the 'pppoeconf' part. This all goes fine. The problem starts when i try to 'pon' |
| 03:25.17 | lain- | this says that only users in the 'dip' group are allowed to use this command |
| 03:25.41 | lain- | i tryed it with root this didnt work. i added my normal account and root to the group pon. typing groups listed me as being in it |
| 03:25.47 | lain- | yet the message persisted |
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| 03:26.01 | thepro4ever | how do i force remove a package with dpkg? |
| 03:26.04 | lain- | groups |
| 03:26.04 | lain- | root dip |
| 03:26.37 | lain- | try 'dpkg --force-help' |
| 03:26.51 | lain- | did you already read the man page? |
| 03:27.14 | thepro4ever | yeah and there are like 1000 references to forcing something |
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| 03:27.50 | lain- | '-_- ok if what you want equals this options: --force-... Override problems (see --force-help). |
| 03:28.09 | lain- | then --froce is what you need. If by forcing you mean something else please say so |
| 03:28.12 | lain- | force* |
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| 03:29.41 | thepro4ever | well basically i'm trying to remove libxml2 on my system so i can upgrade to the new version |
| 03:30.00 | thepro4ever | it looks like i'm still running libxml2 from lenny and i need newer versions |
| 03:30.15 | thepro4ever | so i had the bright idea i'd remove the curent version then go and install the new version |
| 03:30.36 | madsci44 | baronobeefdip: I made an example for you to reference here: http://pastebin.com/dcDaUpeW it shows a default menu and also the locations of relevant files |
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| 03:34.03 | lain- | thepro4ever: i am not really good with these kind of problems but why dont you apt-get --purge libxml2 ? |
| 03:34.04 | somiaj | n-iCe: there is a software kill switch too, there is a package called rfkill that can turn it on/off |
| 03:34.59 | dvs | thepro4ever: How come you're still running the version from lenny? Did you do an apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
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| 03:50.56 | thepro4ever | i have debian sqeeze now, how do i get the latest version of wine |
| 03:51.34 | pilotbub | squeeze the last drop! |
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| 03:52.40 | somiaj | thepro4ever: you will have to compile it yourself. |
| 03:53.46 | madsci44 | thepro4ever use the lamaresh repository |
| 03:53.53 | thepro4ever | somiaj: i downloaded the src already but there is no INSTALL file that explains how to compile it |
| 03:54.18 | somiaj | thepro4ever: http://paste.debian.net/163371/ (some notes I made -- I tested them on squeeze amd64) |
| 03:54.27 | madsci44 | www.lamaresh.net |
| 03:54.35 | allorder | or try playonlinux |
| 03:54.58 | thepro4ever | madsci44: the lamaresh one looks like an old version of wine |
| 03:55.29 | madsci44 | ah, could be - it used to be more current than the deb versions. |
| 03:57.51 | thepro4ever | well looks like i got worse problems now that i've upgraded to sqeeze |
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| 03:58.14 | pilotbub | your wino deserves may indicate a primal urge for Windows don't repress yourself |
| 03:58.22 | pilotbub | desires* |
| 03:58.29 | thepro4ever | i click on my terminal icon and i get "Could not launch icon, faied to launch gnome-terminal" |
| 03:58.32 | thepro4ever | shit |
| 03:59.43 | allorder | what do you want to use with wine ? |
| 04:02.39 | thepro4ever | i managed to get the root terminal up, when i type in gnome-terminal it says command not found |
| 04:03.22 | thepro4ever | i don't know, maybe sqeeze broke my old lenny icons |
| 04:03.29 | somiaj | thepro4ever: check if the gnome-terminal package is installed. |
| 04:03.52 | somiaj | thepro4ever: dpkg -l | grep gnome-terminal |
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| 04:05.20 | thepro4ever | no, i have something called gnome-terminal-data |
| 04:05.29 | thepro4ever | this icon use to work under lenny fine |
| 04:05.42 | thepro4ever | i will try installing the gnome-terminal package |
| 04:05.43 | somiaj | thepro4ever: aptitude install gnome-terminal |
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| 04:07.25 | thepro4ever | problem with that is it looks like it once to remove a 1000 packages to install gnome-terminal |
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| 04:07.58 | thepro4ever | s/once/wants |
| 04:08.03 | somiaj | care to put the output of 'apt-cache policy' and 'apt-cache policy gnome-terminal' on paste.debian.net |
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| 04:08.32 | somiaj | seems as if your install isn't complete or you have something wrong with your sources.list file causing some depedency issues |
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| 04:11.59 | thepro4ever | it won't let me do a copy out of the root terminal :( |
| 04:12.21 | thepro4ever | even if i pipe to a file |
| 04:12.38 | thepro4ever | nvm |
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| 04:15.18 | thepro4ever | oh wow my system is totally hosed, i tried piping it to a file then opening the file through my window manager and none of my apps can open it |
| 04:15.31 | SomeoneWeird | cat |
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| 04:16.39 | edsiper | hi, i need a mirror which contains Lenny packages for armel, anyone ? i cannot find it.. |
| 04:16.41 | thepro4ever | i'm just trying to open it a different way so i can do a copy |
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| 04:17.33 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 04:17.53 | johnfg | I've got to do a few things on this lenny machine, that I haven't used in a while. |
| 04:18.12 | johnfg | For some reason the device.map is wrong. What's the proper way to regenerate it? |
| 04:18.50 | thepro4ever | screw it, i'm rerunning apt-get -d dist-upgrade |
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| 04:22.32 | Kwerty | I get regular (and annoying) terminal messages of the format "do_IRQ: 0.107 No irq handler for vector (irq -1)". I have no interest in solving the hardware problem responsible; I merely wish (at this stage) to hide the reports. How might I effect this? |
| 04:22.52 | somiaj | edsiper: lenny has moved to archive.debian.org (as it is no longer supported). As for the state of lenny's armel port. I don't know much about it. |
| 04:23.48 | johnfg | somiaj, I know lenny's not supported, but how about what it takes to regenerate the device map? |
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| 04:25.31 | Kwerty | Apologies for the repeat (if repeated), but I'm unsure if the first line was actually sent: |
| 04:25.36 | Kwerty | I get regular (and annoying) terminal messages of the format "do_IRQ: 0.107 No irq handler for vector (irq -1)". I have no interest in solving the hardware problem responsible; I merely wish (at this stage) to hide the reports. How might I effect this? |
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| 04:26.55 | Ghorn__ | got a fatal problem dual system |
| 04:27.28 | Ghorn__ | tryed to install debian 6.x but on the install i got error cant install grub/lilu bootloader |
| 04:28.44 | lain- | This place is like the news you see on tv. 90% of it is bad horrible and makes you shake on your knees yet everytime you want to know what is going to happen next |
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| 04:28.58 | Ghorn__ | no i cant ever boot win :| anyone can help me |
| 04:29.12 | edsiper | thanks somiaj , i am mostly looking for a backport of gcc 4.6 for lenny/armel |
| 04:29.16 | madsci44 | i dont have a tv. |
| 04:34.27 | Ghorn__ | not one? |
| 04:35.31 | madsci44 | <Ghorn__> what is your partitioning setup? did you set up a /boot partition? is it primary? what did the installer say when it failed? |
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| 04:36.08 | Ghorn__ | have say something with can write /target or so |
| 04:36.31 | Ghorn__ | have take a screenshot of this error but i have no idea where it is |
| 04:37.15 | madsci44 | did you successfully complete the partitioning process? |
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| 04:40.42 | yogapants | Does anyone know what to do if you accidentally edited the config file to make the WPA2 pw shorter than it's supposed to be and in doing so locked yourself out of a debian based plug computer? |
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| 04:42.57 | johnfg | hey guys, I'm back on squeeze. |
| 04:43.21 | johnfg | Gonna try and so something: what's the command to regenerate grub.cfg/menu.lst? |
| 04:43.23 | madsci44 | at risk of sounding facetious - try logging in with a shorter password? ;) |
| 04:44.02 | yogapants | madsci44: you can't, it requires at least 8 digits wheres i set it to somethings 6 digits long |
| 04:44.07 | johnfg | Just update-grub? |
| 04:44.11 | lain- | can anybodoy test my webserver running on 201.9.165.113:31338 ? help greatly appreciated it should show the default apache banner when you didnt change the website |
| 04:44.14 | yogapants | i tried appending stuff at the beginning and end |
| 04:44.18 | lain- | i just had some problems chaning the default port |
| 04:44.32 | madsci44 | johnfg: yup |
| 04:44.37 | yogapants | its a plug computer so i have to connect to the wifi to ssh. thats the only interface |
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| 04:45.21 | yogapants | i was thinking maybe it went to some default pw |
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| 04:45.42 | lain- | can anybodoy test my webserver running on 201.9.165.113:31338 ? help greatly appreciated it should show the default apache banner when you didnt change the website |
| 04:45.56 | madsci44 | yogapants - im not familliar with plug computers - maybe theres a factory reset or something for that situation? |
| 04:46.16 | lain- | yogapants: i hope so otherwise you would be fubar i guess |
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| 04:55.13 | Ghorn__ | im back |
| 04:55.34 | Ghorn__ | so error is can not install grub-pc in /taget/ |
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| 04:56.38 | Ghorn__ | if i dont do the install route befor and just install the grub it work |
| 04:57.11 | Ghorn__ | only i cant login intro debian |
| 04:57.53 | Ghorn__ | */target/ |
| 04:58.07 | madsci44 | not sure what would cause that - is that when you choose to 'make the system bootable and install grub in the master boot record' |
| 04:58.18 | madsci44 | (dont recall the exact wording of the step) |
| 04:58.42 | Ghorn__ | if i skip everthing befor |
| 04:59.12 | madsci44 | make sure you have marked the boot partition as bootable - if you set them up manually, if you choose one of the automatic partitioning then it should do that for you |
| 04:59.16 | Ghorn__ | and just format to ext4 the debian partition it say found another bootloader vista...them it work |
| 04:59.34 | madsci44 | if you skip everythign before - it wont work because there is no "target" set up to properly install grub to |
| 04:59.54 | Ghorn__ | when i skip it work |
| 04:59.55 | Ghorn__ | when i dont skip i get this error |
| 04:59.58 | Ghorn__ | thats what i say |
| 05:00.06 | Ghorn__ | wait |
| 05:00.11 | Ghorn__ | starting tablet |
| 05:00.29 | Ghorn__ | them i can write step by step what i do |
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| 05:01.59 | DrManhattan | how do I enable nvraid on debian testing netinst |
| 05:02.11 | DrManhattan | I tried the dodmraid raid option at boot, no lucl |
| 05:02.14 | DrManhattan | luck |
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| 05:03.10 | Ghorn2 | ok now |
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| 05:04.04 | Ghorn2 | select language - location -keyboard mapping |
| 05:04.38 | syntaxx | can anyone suggest a good web dns management? |
| 05:04.54 | Ghorn2 | skip network config |
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| 05:05.57 | Ghorn2 | setup root pw user and pw |
| 05:07.10 | somiaj | edsiper: if you don't see on in lenny-backports you may have to make your own |
| 05:07.31 | Shadur | syntaxx: Poweradmin is supposedly halfway decent. |
| 05:08.05 | syntaxx | Shadur, ill take a look at it |
| 05:08.15 | Ghorn2 | manual hdd partition sda6 ext4 mounting point / boot is on the 100mb win7partition |
| 05:08.26 | Ghorn2 | and its flagged as boot |
| 05:08.49 | Ghorn2 | or i di here allready something wrong? |
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| 05:10.38 | Ghorn2 | accept now the installer ask do you want to write it on the hdd yes |
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| 05:11.26 | Ghorn2 | formate - installing sys |
| 05:12.58 | raden | anyone have any idea why when i logout of the gui it disconnects network ? |
| 05:13.27 | kb3gtn | network manager for the loss? |
| 05:13.36 | Ghorn2 | and now the error again the packet grub-pc cant installed in /target/ |
| 05:13.48 | raden | LOL |
| 05:13.56 | nevyn | raden: you didn't tick the little box "this is a system connection" when you setup networking in the gui |
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| 05:14.57 | madsci44 | Ghorn2: you are installing from a CD/DVD correct? |
| 05:15.19 | Ghorn2 | usb |
| 05:16.01 | raden | nevyn, i dont believe so |
| 05:16.12 | raden | nevyn, lemee try to check |
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| 05:17.01 | Ghorn2 | this is how i say when i install normal it dont work when i skip everthing and just install the grub it do sys install and install them grub and it work only unable to login |
| 05:17.42 | madsci44 | why do you choose to skip network configuration? |
| 05:17.51 | Ghorn2 | wlan |
| 05:17.55 | madsci44 | ah |
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| 05:18.13 | madsci44 | what do you mean by 100mb win7partition? |
| 05:18.54 | Ghorn2 | if you install win7 it do a 100mb partition for bootloader |
| 05:19.22 | madsci44 | did you format this partition as ext3 or ext4 ? |
| 05:19.30 | Ghorn2 | nope |
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| 05:19.44 | madsci44 | ok, grub needs its own boot partition |
| 05:19.51 | Ghorn2 | on ever other linux it have work |
| 05:20.02 | madsci44 | or alternatively in boot folder under root partition |
| 05:20.04 | sawgood | Hi: can someone tell me what the file path is to the file for httpd.conf is with Debian? |
| 05:20.14 | Ghorn2 | so on the ext4 |
| 05:20.22 | sawgood | actually /etc/apache2 has a blank httpd.conf file |
| 05:20.26 | madsci44 | I dont think you can share this with a windows native boot partition unless you reformat it, and when doing so ensure its bootable. |
| 05:20.39 | sawgood | I would like ot move the LISTEN port to 127.0.0.1 |
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| 05:21.00 | Ghorn2 | so to set the ext4 as bootpartition too right? |
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| 05:21.23 | madsci44 | alternatively you can make root bootable, and just use boot as folder in root, or, you can create a separate 100 meg partition for the linux /boot. |
| 05:21.34 | madsci44 | yes and format, and make sure its bootable |
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| 05:22.11 | Ghorn2 | but i want still to use win7 |
| 05:22.19 | madsci44 | are you attempting to preserve an existing windows ? - ah.. ok then that wont work |
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| 05:22.40 | madsci44 | what size is the partition you are using for the root? |
| 05:22.50 | Ghorn2 | 15 |
| 05:23.33 | madsci44 | you could use some space from that to make room for another small boot partition? |
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| 05:23.55 | Ghorn2 | my ssd will nuke me lol |
| 05:24.11 | Ghorn2 | how big shold it be? |
| 05:24.38 | madsci44 | ok then try this: dont make a separate partition for /boot, just make the root partition, format it ext4, and make sure it is bootable instead |
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| 05:26.07 | Ghorn2 | the installer ask me now if i want a logical partition as bootable |
| 05:26.20 | Ghorn2 | partition |
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| 05:26.36 | madsci44 | say yes - i think that will work - maybe... :) |
| 05:26.50 | Ghorn2 | maybe is good :-) |
| 05:26.57 | madsci44 | I have never tried that way |
| 05:27.26 | nevyn | can you boot from an lv yet? |
| 05:27.45 | Ghorn2 | if it dont work i come to you and you can fix it :-P |
| 05:28.06 | madsci44 | lol |
| 05:28.32 | nevyn | I didn't think it was possible. |
| 05:28.37 | Ghorn2 | another error now |
| 05:29.21 | Ghorn2 | install failed a part of the install have be failed error grub-bootloader |
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| 05:31.47 | madsci44 | I did it once a long time ago it worked |
| 05:31.59 | madsci44 | but as long as grub is installed to the mbr |
| 05:32.18 | Ghorn2 | grub was installed befor on the mbr |
| 05:32.28 | Ghorn2 | befor was running kanotix |
| 05:32.40 | madsci44 | it should be done again in this pass - so that it takes into account which partition to boot from |
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| 05:34.27 | koobs_ | Hi, can i use up ip route add, instead of up route add in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 05:34.56 | koobs_ | "up ip route add" rather than "up route add" (to use the iproute2 stuff, instead of the default route command) |
| 05:34.57 | madsci44 | on installation grub should detect the windows installation - and as long as windows has its own functioning boot it should give you a menu choice which to boot from |
| 05:35.25 | Ghorn2 | killed the install skip to grub sys installing - installed grub installed |
| 05:35.56 | Ghorn2 | but now im not able to login intro debian |
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| 05:36.26 | pavlz | hi |
| 05:36.37 | Ghorn2 | im not sure |
| 05:36.44 | pavlz | i got my e-mail on @gmail.com |
| 05:37.05 | pavlz | i would to download my e-mail by shell, how can i do it ? |
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| 05:37.20 | pavlz | can anyone help me ? |
| 05:37.24 | pavlz | thanks |
| 05:37.36 | Ghorn2 | but it feel like he get the when i do the stepn with username and password |
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| 05:38.27 | madsci44 | which image did you download to put on the usb stick? |
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| 05:39.47 | Ghorn2 | hybried iso amd64 6.0.4 |
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| 05:40.13 | Ghorn2 | live image |
| 05:41.21 | Ghorn2 | debian-live-6.0.4-amd64-kde-desktop |
| 05:42.02 | Ghorn2 | md5 is correct from the iso checked after the download yesterday |
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| 05:42.35 | madsci44 | I think if you skip everything and go to grub it installs to the mbr but you dont have anything else configured so thats why you cant log in - unless i misunderstand what you are saying. - you have to do it all in one pass, language, timezone, partition, install base system, install grub to mbr |
| 05:44.25 | madsci44 | if you install a monolithic root, (just one partition) and dont use a boot partition - it should work as long as the root partiion is mounted bootable. I dont think you can install /boot as the existing windows boot partition without problems. The root should be formatted to ext4 also in the process |
| 05:44.33 | Ghorn2 | language and keyboard mapping i have do just the rest skipped |
| 05:45.13 | Ghorn2 | but grub ist installed now |
| 05:45.22 | Ghorn2 | on the win partition |
| 05:46.01 | Ghorn2 | the installer have ask if i wsnt to install grub becuse he have found a win bootloader |
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| 05:47.35 | madsci44 | but if you didnt install the base system (if you skipped it) there is nothing in the linux set up for you to log into. |
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| 05:47.50 | Ghorn__ | so now |
| 05:48.04 | Ghorn__ | nono |
| 05:48.09 | Ghorn__ | when i have skip to grub |
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| 05:49.08 | Ghorn__ | the installer jumped back to partition them i formate the debian partition to ext4 he do it install the system and install grub |
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| 05:51.49 | pavlz | hi AT all, i got my e-mail on gmail.com i would like to access by shell, to download my e-mailes, anyone can help me ? tnx |
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| 05:52.59 | madsci44 | i think running install from beginnning to end without skipping anything is best to avoid problems. (except for network because of wlan in your case) but - maybe i dont understand what you are saying. |
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| 05:53.26 | Ghorn__ | i have do it from beginning to end |
| 05:53.31 | Ghorn__ | them the error is coming |
| 05:53.53 | madsci44 | even when you did not use a seperate /boot? |
| 05:54.04 | Ghorn__ | yes |
| 05:54.16 | Ghorn__ | only if i skip everthing and want just to install grub it work |
| 05:54.34 | madsci44 | wow ok. then im not sure whats going on. |
| 05:55.06 | Ghorn__ | only you are not able to login intro debian |
| 05:55.38 | madsci44 | only other thing I can guess is your existing partitino structure is interfering somehow, try on a separate blank drive as a test if you have one |
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| 06:00.17 | Ghorn__ | this is not really possible too |
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| 06:04.24 | madsci44 | i am probably not the best person to help you - there are likely others who know the installer better to diagnose whats happening. Also I have not tried the live images, I usually use netinst, netboot, or the standard ISO for the CD. I am presuming the installer is similar for the live/hybrid image you mentioned you are using and I could be wrong there also . |
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| 06:08.59 | Ghorn__ | i will figure it out whats wrong there |
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| 06:09.24 | Ghorn__ | it cant be possible if i do step by step it dont work and when i just want to install the grub loader it work |
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| 06:11.12 | newbie|4 | Hi there! Wnen I try install libmagick++-dev i get |
| 06:11.12 | newbie|4 | W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/libp/libpng/libpng12-0_1.2.44-1+squeeze3_i386.deb |
| 06:11.12 | newbie|4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.12 | newbie|4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:12.03 | newbie|4 | Hi there! Wnen I try install libmagick++-dev i get |
| 06:12.07 | madsci44 | yes, seems when you skip - it just installs grub but it doesn't point to a valid installation - hence you cant log in. |
| 06:12.12 | newbie|4 | W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/libp/libpng/libpng12-0_1.2.44-1+squeeze3_i386.deb |
| 06:12.16 | newbie|4 | W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/libp/libpng/libpng12-dev_1.2.44-1+squeeze3_i386.deb |
| 06:12.25 | newbie|4 | What can I do int this case& |
| 06:12.27 | newbie|4 | ? |
| 06:12.35 | madsci44 | using apt-get? |
| 06:12.51 | Ghorn__ | yes i just have got able to able to boot win7 |
| 06:12.57 | Ghorn__ | -able |
| 06:13.14 | Ghorn__ | but thx anyway madsci44 :) |
| 06:13.36 | madsci44 | Ghorn__ i hope you get it working :) best of luck! |
| 06:13.46 | Ghorn__ | better help thats on the debian.de channel (just startet some flame war...) |
| 06:14.10 | newbie|4 | If I try install libpng manually I get: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: multiarch-support |
| 06:14.18 | kevlarman | newbie|4: you probably need to apt-get update |
| 06:14.20 | newbie|4 | What does it mean? |
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| 06:16.48 | darkelfjuggalo | Earlier tonight i was walking with my netbook in hand and i tripped, dropping my netbook. since then i have a section of screen that is faded...roughly a quarter of the screen is showing more than color from top to bottom... is there a way to repair this without going into the machine? |
| 06:16.55 | newbie|4 | kevlarman: It really helped. Thanks |
| 06:17.12 | darkelfjuggalo | more white than color |
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| 06:20.01 | somiaj | darkelfjuggalo: sounds like you damaged the hardware, not sure if it is fixable. |
| 06:20.51 | darkelfjuggalo | i already had hardware damage in this but as long as i didn't move too much when it was on it was doing ok... |
| 06:21.05 | darkelfjuggalo | *grumbles* stupid animals under my feet |
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| 06:22.39 | somiaj | I don't know to much about how the lcd on hardware works, there is a ##hardware channel though |
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| 06:25.47 | buu | Hey, I managed to get my apt-get wedged by asking it to install something that depended on a libc that depended on a higher kernel version than I have access to, can someone take a look at tell me how to get out of this mess: http://pastie.org/3796535 |
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| 06:29.00 | somiaj | buu: sounds like you are preofrming voodoo, have you heard of backports? |
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| 06:29.30 | somiaj | buu: can you prove the output of 'apt-cache policy' on a pastebin |
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| 06:30.58 | buu | somiaj: http://pastie.org/3796551 |
| 06:31.12 | buu | I wasn't trying to perform voodoo, the problem is that I have a non-packaged kernel installed |
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| 06:32.06 | somiaj | buu: ok why do you have stable and unstable packages mixed -- that is voodoo that will break your system and cause things like you are running into. |
| 06:32.13 | somiaj | buu: do you want to run stable or do you want to run unstable? |
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| 06:32.53 | somiaj | also you should use ftp.<country code>.debian.org in your sources.list |
| 06:33.04 | buu | I want to run unstable |
| 06:33.08 | somiaj | or cdn.debian.net |
| 06:33.18 | buu | Also I looked for a countrycode.debian.org but the mirrors page didn't have one, heh |
| 06:33.25 | somiaj | buu: so finish dist-upgrading your system to stable so you don't have any stable packages floating around |
| 06:33.30 | buu | er |
| 06:33.30 | buu | OH |
| 06:33.38 | buu | I just .. I see |
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| 06:34.02 | buu | Except I can't run dist-upgrade because now apt is hosed |
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| 06:34.37 | somiaj | follow the instrucions, it suggest you run apt-get -f install |
| 06:34.41 | somiaj | let it try ot fix iteslf |
| 06:34.50 | buu | ... |
| 06:34.54 | buu | (I tried that first) |
| 06:35.06 | somiaj | but yes, if you don't fully upgrade to unstable and you start mixing versions like you did you get version conflicts that apt/aptitude cannot resolve |
| 06:35.18 | somiaj | did it work? if not try aptitude -f install (they use differnt logic) |
| 06:35.24 | buu | http://pastie.org/3796559 |
| 06:35.55 | buu | (aptitude didn't work either) |
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| 06:36.04 | yeizhihui | 大家好 |
| 06:36.07 | yeizhihui | 有人在吗? |
| 06:36.36 | somiaj | buu: ok what is the output of 'apt-cache policy libc6' |
| 06:36.44 | somiaj | buu: how did you pugrade to unstable in the firstplace? |
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| 06:36.54 | buu | somiaj: I ran apt-get upgrade; heh |
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| 06:37.19 | buu | http://pastie.org/3796564 |
| 06:37.30 | buu | (Because I always, always, always forget about dist-upgrade) |
| 06:38.09 | somiaj | buu: well why do you want to run unstable, you don't seem to have a grasp of how debian packages work. Realize that things like this can occur in unstable cause of bugs/bad packages in the repo |
| 06:38.37 | somiaj | buu: ok lets try to upgrade your libc6 package, 'apt-get install libc6' |
| 06:38.54 | pbase | interesting line by dpkg "dpkg: hmm... sanity is something that most developers lack" |
| 06:39.14 | somiaj | it is also very strange that this package didn't get upgrade when you went to unstable, libc6 is a core package so your upgrade seems to not have worked or was only partial |
| 06:39.28 | buu | somiaj: I assume it didn't get upgraded because I didn't dist-upgrade |
| 06:39.41 | somiaj | buu: no, libc6 will upgrade wiht a regular upgrade it is that core of a package |
| 06:39.51 | somiaj | buu: really most of unstable depends on libc6. (: |
| 06:40.06 | buu | Got me! |
| 06:40.11 | somiaj | buu: but answer my question. Why do you want to run unstable when stable is a solid system that will not run into these types of issues. |
| 06:40.21 | buu | Because I wanted packages that were more up to date |
| 06:40.39 | pbase | new is not always better.. is it? |
| 06:40.51 | somiaj | buu: you should go reinstall squeeze |
| 06:40.55 | somiaj | buu: and then learn about backports |
| 06:41.01 | buu | useful |
| 06:41.03 | somiaj | !tell buu -about squeeze-backports |
| 06:41.20 | somiaj | in most cases it will be only a few pieces of software you will care that is newer than squeeze |
| 06:41.45 | somiaj | and in that case you can compile/install them on squeeze, so you have a very stable core system with newer packages of the things you need |
| 06:42.17 | buu | Unfortuantely reinsstalling isn't really an option |
| 06:42.35 | somiaj | is this on a server? since you want to install apache I think so |
| 06:42.39 | buu | Good guess |
| 06:43.09 | somiaj | running insecure buggy software on a server is just bad bad juju. I would strong suggest you consider running stable with backports. |
| 06:43.27 | somiaj | but if you really want to run sid, prase though all the errors apt gives you untill you fix them and fully upgrade your system |
| 06:43.31 | buu | Sure, yes, I get the point |
| 06:43.35 | buu | But I need to get unstuck |
| 06:43.45 | somiaj | also #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is a prefered place for testing/unstable help |
| 06:43.51 | somiaj | so do as I said, 'apt-get install libc6' |
| 06:44.05 | somiaj | then run apt-get -f install again -- see what it complains about, try to fix its complaints |
| 06:44.11 | somiaj | and repeate |
| 06:44.20 | buu | I already tried all of that.. |
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| 06:54.16 | Kwerty | I get regular (and annoying) terminal messages of the format "do_IRQ: 0.107 No irq handler for vector (irq -1)". I have no interest in solving the hardware problem responsible; I merely wish (at this stage) to hide the reports. How might I effect this? |
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| 06:54.36 | withheld | I'm on debian testing, Wine depends on the dummy package wine-experimental so I can't install it, anything I can do? |
| 06:54.55 | xbix | you did it without love. repeat all dearly. |
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| 06:55.49 | somiaj | withheld: I would install the wine from the unoffical source or compile your own package. The version in debian is in a strange place |
| 06:55.55 | somiaj | !newer-wine |
| 06:55.56 | xbix | withheld: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is a prefered place for testing/unstable help |
| 06:56.17 | somiaj | !newer wine |
| 06:56.17 | dpkg | The wine-unstable packages in Debian are very out of date and possibly not what you want. For unofficial, newer versions of these packages for wheezy/sid, see http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ . These packages can be backported to squeeze with a little work, ask me about <ssb>. Alternatively, the commercial <cxoffice> offers a recent wine with support. |
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| 07:00.32 | nevyn | so why is that so? |
| 07:00.45 | nevyn | if there are newer packages? what's holding them getting into sid? |
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| 07:02.07 | somiaj | they are not made by debian devs |
| 07:03.34 | somiaj | they are also 1.5 and I'd think debian would prefer the stable branch 1.4 might be another issue |
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| 07:14.05 | xbix | nothing has happened |
| 07:14.16 | xbix | try else one |
| 07:14.28 | xbix | go to smoke |
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| 08:33.44 | mrfree | hi all |
| 08:34.07 | mrfree | I'm trying to chroot into my debian wheezy from another gnu/linux distro |
| 08:34.18 | mrfree | I've mounted /sys /dev /proc |
| 08:34.29 | mrfree | but with wheezy I need /run too... |
| 08:34.42 | mrfree | which is the right way to mount this dir? |
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| 08:37.41 | simonlnu | mrfree: mount --bind for all of them |
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| 08:41.41 | Iridos | simonlnu, I think he means the other distro (like squeeze) has no /run? |
| 08:41.54 | Iridos | dpkg, run |
| 08:41.55 | dpkg | /run is a new cross-distribution location for storing transient writable files needed from system startup to shutdown, but do not require preserving across reboots. It replaces several locations in the <FHS>. http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory |
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| 08:42.00 | simonlnu | oh, /var/run symlink it |
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| 08:42.37 | Iridos | right |
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| 08:43.07 | _-`user0`taf` | Hello ! |
| 08:43.11 | Iridos | heh, knew that from some bug-report, but forgot about it |
| 08:43.31 | cads | hi, I've installed deb, and made a few package additions, like xchat, flash-plugin-nonfree, a couple chess engines, build-essential, tcl/tk, some dev libraries, etc. |
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| 08:44.06 | cads | What's the best way to do the same package changes automatically in the future, say if I install deb on another system? |
| 08:44.36 | Iridos | what do you mean with "automatically"? |
| 08:45.02 | Iridos | get the same packages you have now? |
| 08:45.07 | cads | pretty much |
| 08:45.14 | Iridos | dpkg, debian clone |
| 08:45.15 | dpkg | One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup> <apt-clone>. |
| 08:47.19 | simonlnu | there's a typo in that factoid |
| 08:47.26 | Iridos | oh noes |
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| 08:48.12 | larrikin_ | your current dir is ALWAYS your home no? |
| 08:48.21 | simonlnu | !debian clone =~ s,./selectionfile/,~/selectionfile, |
| 08:48.21 | dpkg | that doesn't contain './selectionfile/', simonlnu |
| 08:48.24 | simonlnu | no |
| 08:48.29 | simonlnu | !debian clone =~ s,./selectionfile,~/selectionfile, |
| 08:48.30 | dpkg | simonlnu: OK |
| 08:48.35 | Iridos | wondered if you meant the ~/. thing |
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| 08:49.05 | simonlnu | cd ~/foobar |
| 08:49.08 | Iridos | simonlnu, as you have to copy the file anyway... |
| 08:49.13 | cads | Iridos, is it possible to pull back the clone operation so that it only applies the packages that I installed by hand? |
| 08:49.14 | simonlnu | your pwd is now ~/foobar |
| 08:49.27 | Iridos | I would have changed it the other way around and removed ~/ |
| 08:49.42 | simonlnu | go ahead ;) |
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| 08:50.35 | Iridos | could remove ./ as well... it's kinda safe to assume that after you copied a file, it's in the same directory as you are... except if you gave an absoulte/relative path to somewhere else, in which case hope would be that you know about it? |
| 08:51.58 | Iridos | cads,?? |
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| 08:52.59 | simonlnu | cads: no. that's an aptitude/apt-get specific thing. that data doesn't get stored with dpkg |
| 08:53.13 | cads | suppose I'd like to clone my package choice from a gnome desktop A to kde desktop B, and I'd like to avoid installing gnome on B |
| 08:54.05 | cads | realistically I'd like to simply install the packages I hand picked for A, and with enough forethought I might simply compose such a list |
| 08:54.50 | cads | simonlnu, cool, I'll check that out |
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| 08:55.41 | Iridos | gah |
| 08:55.45 | Iridos | larrikin_, well... export PROMPT_COMMAND='cd ~' |
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| 08:56.09 | simonlnu | omg |
| 08:56.16 | cads | thanks for the help, I'll look more into how apt-get logs package changes |
| 08:56.33 | cads | take it easy, all |
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| 08:57.18 | Iridos | I meant "gah, wireless disconnected me... again" |
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| 09:11.05 | enkrypt | I'm running debian sid on both a laptop with an ATI videocard (using the radeon open source driver) and a desktop with an nvidia videocard (using nvidia binary blob). since a few weeks both of these have developed Xorg problems. the laptop on ATI is showing bad image corruption, text going messed up. the desktop is OK, can even play games at high FPS, but since a few weeks my gvim has been terribly slow to resize. DRI seems enabled on both. any ideas? |
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| 09:15.26 | Iridos | check bugtracking-system, read topic |
| 09:15.31 | Iridos | dpkg, any ideas |
| 09:15.31 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of condoms, a little thermal paste, and 42 sex-crazed oxen. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
| 09:16.14 | Eninem | ^ this |
| 09:17.21 | sawjig | Why do the oxen need to be sex-crazed? |
| 09:17.30 | sawjig | Mating patterns of oxen tend to be seasonal. |
| 09:18.03 | Eninem | is this the voice of experience sawjig |
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| 09:19.01 | anticom | hi all |
| 09:19.40 | anticom | can i ask questions related to a certain debian package here too or is this pure debian OS? |
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| 09:21.57 | buu | Only one way to find out! |
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| 09:24.31 | anticom | is anyone familiar with subversion package? (especially the server thing) |
| 09:24.35 | anticom | :> |
| 09:24.47 | jelly | !ask |
| 09:24.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 09:26.21 | siyb | anticom: why would you want to use subversion anyways :P |
| 09:26.43 | anticom | siyb you're more the git-guy? |
| 09:26.47 | anticom | uname -a gives me "Linux [servername] 2.6.32-5-amd #1 SMP [date stsuff]". I've installed subversion and subversion-tools and managed to start my subversion server and even create a test repo using svnadmin |
| 09:26.57 | anticom | but i've got no clue, how to manage that authentification stuff |
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| 09:27.49 | anticom | i'm able to checkout remotely using tortoiseSVN (yea, shame on my, my machine is running on windows :/) but there's no login-like window poping up like it's saying in the docs |
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| 09:27.56 | anticom | so i'm assuming there is some issue with my server |
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| 09:29.06 | Geralt | Hi, is there an i586 (or older) version of squeeze available? I have a Via CPU which is not fully i686 compatible, causing the kernel to hang when booting |
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| 09:31.21 | Iridos | Geralt, all userspace packages are compiled for i386 (well, 486?), for the kernel, look at the kernel-name.. there's linux-image-2.6.32-5-486 |
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| 09:33.04 | Iridos | anticom, and there's nothing obvious in the config files in /etc? There might be additional info on debian-related stuff in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/README.Debian as well |
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| 09:35.03 | flonkgertonite | is there a command (like ps) that can list unresponsive processes? |
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| 09:35.11 | anticom | Iridos in the repository location and subdir "conf" there's a file passwd where i've added a user following the samples in there |
| 09:35.15 | anticom | but that doesn't help :/ |
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| 09:35.53 | anticom | flonkgertonite not sure, but maybe "top"? |
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| 09:40.04 | Geralt | Iridos: thanks, I'll try that |
| 09:40.08 | Iridos | flonkgertonite, ps and top will show them... depends on why a process is unresponsive, what it looks like |
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| 09:40.33 | jelly | flonkgertonite: can you first define "unresponsive"? |
| 09:40.46 | Geralt | :bd |
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| 09:41.41 | dgtl | hi there, i'm looking for a web-manageable ftpd on debian, it should be stable and easy to configure |
| 09:41.47 | Iridos | jelly, I think it means doesn't respond |
| 09:41.49 | Iridos | :P |
| 09:41.54 | dgtl | do you have any suggestions for me? |
| 09:42.26 | gnarface | hey if i want to cross compile a kernel for arm on a amd64 machine and i was going to use emdebian, which package would i install, and which binary is the actual cross-compiler? |
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| 09:43.06 | ansgar | .oO( Using vim via ajaxterm is web-managable, isn't it? ) |
| 09:43.28 | Iridos | gnarface, ask #emdebian on oftc... it's a good question though... you could ask them to put that on their webpage more clearly... |
| 09:43.40 | gnarface | oh boy |
| 09:44.01 | Iridos | or perhaps they did... you did read the emdebian page about toolchains? |
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| 09:44.39 | thomaschaaf | I have a very weird problem. I have a USB SD Card reader and am using an EyeFi SD Card. When I plug it into the reader nothing happens. Even /proc/partitions doesn't show anything. (just sda) |
| 09:45.14 | gnarface | Iridos: i remember reading it should be in my path already and this shouldn't be a problem |
| 09:45.16 | thomaschaaf | as soon as I run partprobe or fdisk -l /dev/sdb /proc/partitions ist filled with sdb1 |
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| 09:45.53 | thomaschaaf | running partprobe every second in a cronjob seams very stupid. Anyone know of a better and fast option? |
| 09:46.09 | Iridos | gnarface, well... http://www.emdebian.org/tools/crossdev.html dpkg-cross and apt-cross seem the main ingredients |
| 09:46.20 | thomaschaaf | by fast I mean that if I insert it it doesn't take ages to notice the partition |
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| 09:57.55 | Iridos | thomaschaaf, and by "nothing happens" you mean? Did you check dmesg output? |
| 09:58.42 | thomaschaaf | let me reboot |
| 09:58.53 | Iridos | huh, why? |
| 09:59.13 | thomaschaaf | Iridos: because once I mount it works |
| 09:59.44 | Iridos | even if you unplug again? |
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| 10:00.02 | Iridos | I dunno... udev should add the necessary devices |
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| 10:01.12 | thomaschaaf | dmesg, /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg keep quiet |
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| 10:03.16 | thomaschaaf | when I call partprobe: http://pastie.org/3797292 this happens |
| 10:03.24 | Agiofws | hey guys |
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| 10:03.47 | thomaschaaf | and when I remove it nothing happens again so until I call partprobe again it does nothing |
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| 10:04.13 | Agiofws | i have gimp installed in my system with out it showing up in my synaptic manager how would i uninstall it and use the official version of debian ? |
| 10:04.33 | Agiofws | dpkg -remove ? |
| 10:04.34 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Agiofws |
| 10:04.39 | ironm | Good Morning. I have reported the following issue: Regression: Error - Ubuntu-server 12.04 installation as VM on xen-server 6 (use of local iso file) |
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| 10:05.10 | ironm | This bug affects also wheezy (debian) |
| 10:05.29 | ironm | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/982430 |
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| 10:05.52 | ironm | Please confirm if you have had similar problems. Thank you in advance. |
| 10:06.21 | Iridos | thomaschaaf, not /var/log/dmesg (there is such a file??), I meant the output of the "dmesg" command |
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| 10:07.11 | Iridos | Agiofws, how did you install it, then? |
| 10:07.15 | ironm | !d-i |
| 10:07.16 | dpkg | 6.0 squeeze is now the "stable" Debian release (Feb 06, 2011). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. See also <errata>, <g-i>. |
| 10:07.38 | Agiofws | Iridos, i think manually or something |
| 10:07.53 | colock | miam, custom install cds :) |
| 10:07.59 | Iridos | well... then look in the installation instructions you followed or something |
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| 10:08.49 | Iridos | one of the jobs the package manager does is to keep track of files and make it possible to remove all of them... when you install outside the package management, that becomes your job |
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| 10:10.51 | floh` | hi |
| 10:11.43 | floh` | i'd like to share my network connection on eth0 via WLAN. i don't want briding. |
| 10:12.03 | floh` | i tried it with hostapd and dnsmasq, and the access-point-part works so far |
| 10:12.07 | colock | floh`: iptables + some basic NAT + MASQUERADE |
| 10:12.14 | floh` | however, dhcp is not working :/ |
| 10:12.17 | colock | also, ip_forwarding on |
| 10:14.29 | nsadmin | if you don't want bridging what do you want? |
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| 10:15.18 | Iridos | MAOAM! |
| 10:15.23 | mashed | magic broadcast zones :D |
| 10:15.25 | thomaschaaf | What is the easiest way to run partprobe every second? |
| 10:15.30 | Iridos | damn ad-impriinting during youth :( |
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| 10:16.26 | looka | hi |
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| 10:16.46 | looka | can someone help me on installing debian on hp pavilion series? |
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| 10:16.58 | looka | disk not found error |
| 10:17.10 | nsadmin | details please |
| 10:17.15 | looka | thanks |
| 10:17.33 | looka | well, i have pavilion g7 1300 series |
| 10:17.49 | looka | and i can't boot any of linux usb installation stick |
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| 10:17.52 | nsadmin | not saying I can help, but I will help gather info which you should keep track of |
| 10:18.06 | looka | it says /dev/sr0 not found |
| 10:18.07 | nsadmin | what about a cd? |
| 10:18.17 | looka | also fdisl -l lists no devices |
| 10:18.19 | jpinx | looka: bios issues? |
| 10:18.22 | looka | fdisk -l |
| 10:18.34 | looka | maybe, i got computer yesterday |
| 10:18.44 | thomaschaaf | looka: give us ls from /dev |
| 10:18.53 | thomaschaaf | in pastebin |
| 10:19.06 | looka | do i have to change hard drive in bios to ide or? |
| 10:19.17 | thomaschaaf | we dont know |
| 10:19.20 | looka | sory im on work now do not have notebook here |
| 10:19.31 | thomaschaaf | looka: then come back later |
| 10:19.46 | nsadmin | the best thing to do, then, is come when you have the machine in front of you |
| 10:19.52 | thomaschaaf | -.- |
| 10:20.13 | looka | thanks for help |
| 10:20.23 | looka | but i thought it may be common issue |
| 10:20.37 | looka | jpinx: what bios issues? |
| 10:20.38 | nsadmin | it will be helpful to have a separate machine to irc on |
| 10:20.52 | looka | yes, it would |
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| 10:21.07 | nsadmin | do you have another machine at home? |
| 10:21.16 | looka | yes i do |
| 10:21.20 | jpinx | looka: what other os boots on that troublesome machine? |
| 10:21.28 | nsadmin | ok, good... and you can irc from it? |
| 10:21.33 | looka | jpinx: only windows |
| 10:21.58 | looka | jpinx: i have tried ubuntu arch linux and debian |
| 10:22.25 | nsadmin | have you tried live cds? |
| 10:22.29 | looka | jpinx: all from usb stick, they boot normally (well with i915.modeset=0 kernel options) |
| 10:22.38 | looka | i have tried live usb |
| 10:22.41 | jpinx | looka: ok - come back when you're a bit more prepared ;) |
| 10:22.50 | looka | it really should not matter |
| 10:22.54 | looka | ok ok |
| 10:23.18 | nsadmin | well having said that you don't have to leave; we're not kicking you out or anything |
| 10:23.29 | jpinx | looka: true - if the bios is allowing booting from a usb windows - then it should boot a live CD |
| 10:23.46 | looka | nsadmin: tnx ;) |
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| 10:23.59 | jpinx | hell no - don't feel we're not trying to help :) |
| 10:24.27 | looka | could it be i need some wierd hard disk kernel modules |
| 10:24.41 | looka | or change the way it works in bios |
| 10:25.14 | nsadmin | and, we won't be able to help with this machine until you have em in front of you and can say what the machine actually does in response to things we ask you to do |
| 10:25.18 | jpinx | looka: personally I'd start by inspecting the bios settngs carefully |
| 10:25.42 | nsadmin | finally... |
| 10:25.54 | nsadmin | consider the possibility of returning the machine |
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| 10:26.15 | looka | ok tnx guys. my guess is that i might have to to change AHCI to IDE |
| 10:26.15 | jpinx | Oooo - is it new? :) |
| 10:26.23 | looka | it is brand new |
| 10:26.42 | jpinx | don't do anything - take it back and test another same model ;) |
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| 10:27.02 | looka | oki doki. |
| 10:27.07 | looka | have a nice day guys |
| 10:27.07 | jpinx | you might have a duffer ;) |
| 10:27.37 | looka | but hard disk works, on windows |
| 10:28.02 | thomaschaaf | how would I best start watch -n10 partprobe at boot? I guess I could write an init script.. |
| 10:28.10 | thomaschaaf | is there a quicker way? |
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| 10:29.02 | nsadmin | what has you wanting to start it at boot? |
| 10:29.52 | thomaschaaf | nsadmin: it should start automatically.. for some reason my sd card is not detected. Its supposed to be an autonomous system so I can't have the user "mount" the drive. |
| 10:30.06 | thomaschaaf | It should just be there. |
| 10:30.51 | thomaschaaf | Sadly when I insert the card into the device nothing happens until I partprobe then I see it in /proc/partitions |
| 10:30.53 | nsadmin | you want to mount it automatically, and it's a permanent feature of the machine? |
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| 10:31.38 | thomaschaaf | nsadmin: it's an sd card. So the person usign it inserts the card and it does things with the card |
| 10:31.49 | thomaschaaf | sometimes its an sd sometimes a cf card |
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| 10:32.19 | thomaschaaf | (/dev/sdb, sdc, sdd, dde since it's a multicard reader) |
| 10:32.50 | nsadmin | oh ok, so you want the card to just show up in /proc/partitions? |
| 10:32.57 | thomaschaaf | yep |
| 10:33.07 | thomaschaaf | after I partprobe I get /dev/sdb1 |
| 10:33.11 | nsadmin | and mounting it is going to be separate? |
| 10:33.16 | thomaschaaf | yep |
| 10:34.10 | triscuit | would it be ok to install apparmor or something similar in debian testing? |
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| 10:35.06 | Iridos | dpkg, apparmor |
| 10:35.06 | dpkg | AppArmor (Application Armor, formerly SubDomain) provides pathname-based mandatory access control, a file-system neutral alternative to <SELinux>. Previously maintained by Novell, included in mainline since Linux 2.6.36, enabled in Debian kernel images as of linux-2.6 3.2~rc7-1~experimental.1 (Debian bug #598408). http://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor http://apparmor.wiki.kernel.org/ #apparmor on irc.oftc.net. |
| 10:35.09 | thomaschaaf | nsadmin: don't have an idea either? :( |
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| 10:36.47 | nsadmin | thomaschaaf, do you care when this is started relative to when the machine is rebooted, as long as it's up by the time the machine finishes booting? |
| 10:37.13 | thomaschaaf | nsadmin: yea its just supposed to be there at somepoint |
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| 10:37.32 | nsadmin | so, doesn't matter as long as it's there |
| 10:38.00 | thomaschaaf | does not really matter.. it would be nice if its there at the end of the boot |
| 10:38.03 | nsadmin | now, watch may get you what you want... and, it's got a curses interface and wants to display on a terminal |
| 10:38.08 | thomaschaaf | but if it takes a minute longer thats okay |
| 10:38.28 | thomaschaaf | yea I was thinking of writing an init script which just runs watch |
| 10:38.54 | thomaschaaf | but I thought that there is a place where I can just define stuff somewhere else. like a "crontab" for "onboot" or something |
| 10:39.18 | nsadmin | instead of watch, you will want a loop that runs partprobe and then sleeps for some number of seconds |
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| 10:40.36 | nsadmin | you can put the thing that starts this script in /etc/rc.local |
| 10:40.59 | Iridos | thomaschaaf, you still haven't said if dmesg writes something interesting when you plug in the card |
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| 10:41.46 | thomaschaaf | Iridos: I did it does nothing no output in dmesg, /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/syslog |
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| 10:42.29 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:42.53 | thomaschaaf | nopr |
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| 10:43.00 | thomaschaaf | nothing :( |
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| 10:43.20 | nsadmin | ok |
| 10:43.27 | ptman | is there a way to comment pam profile files? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PAMConfigFrameworkSpec#config_file_format ) |
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| 10:45.12 | Iridos | thomaschaaf, that's weird... because... what you showed it prints when you do run partprobe does not include the initial detection of the device... I'd search for that in your place |
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| 10:49.24 | thomaschaaf | I feel like a terrible person for doing it like this: http://pastie.org/3797453 |
| 10:50.59 | Iridos | why would you need to to it so often |
| 10:51.09 | Iridos | you said it works after you do that the first time |
| 10:51.20 | thomaschaaf | I was wrong :( |
| 10:51.25 | thomaschaaf | I thought it did but it didn't |
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| 10:59.42 | dgtl | hi there, i'm looking for a web-manageable ftpd on debian, it should be stable and it should have a web-interface for up/downloads, a plus would be a webinterface for configuration |
| 10:59.47 | dgtl | do you have any suggestions? |
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| 11:00.16 | Iridos | err, what? |
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| 11:01.07 | dgtl | whats your question? |
| 11:01.16 | Disson | webmin or something? |
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| 11:03.05 | dgtl | Disson, as far as i know webmin has no webinterface for users to upload and download files, it can manage ftpd (there is also a proftpd plugin) but thats all |
| 11:03.07 | babilen | Disson: Webmin is completely unrelated to this as it is a web hosting control panel. It is also a horrible piece of software AFAI've been told |
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| 11:03.24 | mashed | dgtl: github.com/alol/glovebox like that? |
| 11:03.48 | mashed | no ftpd involves purely web based |
| 11:03.52 | Iridos | babilen, it's not really unrelated... if he wants to manage any ftp server via the web, it'll be over something like that |
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| 11:04.36 | Disson | babilen: true :D |
| 11:04.42 | Iridos | dgtl, there's surely no ftp daemon with that inbuilt... I also don't see why you'd want it. Also, what do you want to "manage" if not configuration? |
| 11:05.13 | Iridos | dpkg, old pal, why do you leave us |
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| 11:05.17 | babilen | Iridos: Ok, but I had the impression that dgtl is rather looking for a web-frontend that allows users to easily upload and download files. That this happens via FTP is an unfortunate design decision but not imperative for the user experience. |
| 11:05.33 | dgtl | mashed, it should be based on ftp protcol, glovebox is not as far as i can see |
| 11:05.46 | Woet | dgtl: any random FTP server + any random web-based FTP client |
| 11:05.47 | Woet | and done |
| 11:05.59 | babilen | dgtl: Why should it be based on FTP? (just curious) |
| 11:06.04 | mashed | dgtl: the fact you want to use it over a browser makes ftp redundant |
| 11:06.12 | babilen | fwiw, i'm not aware of something like that. |
| 11:06.13 | dgtl | it needs to be through the ftp protocol because experienced users should be able to login via an ftp client |
| 11:06.16 | Iridos | babilen, I also very much wondered about the question as such, hence my friendly: <Iridos> err, what? |
| 11:06.21 | babilen | hehe |
| 11:06.24 | mashed | you can use ftp directly through most browser with the correct url |
| 11:06.51 | dgtl | babilen, we have like 100 users, not everybody knows what ftp is, they only know their browsers |
| 11:07.03 | babilen | dgtl: Why is it important that you use FTP then? |
| 11:07.16 | babilen | Sounds as if you want anything but :-/ |
| 11:07.39 | dgtl | babilen, because it should provide both, access via ftp client for users who can handle it, and for non experienced users with webbrowsers |
| 11:08.07 | Iridos | dgtl, nothing stops you from allowing web-upload via one program and ftp-upload via another one... |
| 11:08.30 | mashed | tell me will the web users be uploading? |
| 11:08.45 | dgtl | Iridos, not true, simplicity does, we dont want to take care of more than one userbase |
| 11:09.05 | dgtl | mashed, yes, they will |
| 11:09.18 | babilen | Do we actually know good web-based alternatives that are *not* using FTP? I don't, but I never had the need for it. The only sensible suggestion so far was glovebox :) |
| 11:09.18 | Iridos | not true... simplicity suggests you do use tools that exist |
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| 11:09.59 | dgtl | Iridos, as long as these two programs are using the same userbase, it should be alright with me |
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| 11:10.34 | Iridos | babilen, I was just thinking about that, too... it's probably only 10 lines php or so, though (if you leave authentication to the web server) |
| 11:10.37 | ksk | webdav might be nice, if you want "ftp-funtionallity" but not use ftp (for good reasons...) |
| 11:11.01 | dgtl | for example, we dont wanna create two useraccounts, for the web-interface and another for the ftpd itself |
| 11:11.23 | Iridos | well, that's obvious |
| 11:11.28 | mashed | dgtl: ksk has the right idea webdav wold be perfect |
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| 11:14.32 | dgtl | mashed, maybe, but you cannot expect that 100 employees will change their habits, installing webdav-clients and stuff.. i cannot discuss the requirements as im not in the position to do that, i just have to implement whats possible |
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| 11:15.13 | dgtl | therefore i wasnt asking "what would be the best solution for this or that" |
| 11:15.20 | mashed | dgtl: on the contrary webdav support is in virtually all os's. it's been out of the box since windows 2000 and virtually forever on mac to |
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| 11:15.25 | dgtl | as o'm sure there are better ones as using ftp |
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| 11:16.39 | mashed | dgtl: in that case there is no 'quick fix' i suggest you install an ftp daemon and start researching web based ftp clients. |
| 11:16.57 | dgtl | mashed, this research braught me here:) |
| 11:17.01 | Iridos | dgtl, how do you have the users stored on the system |
| 11:17.06 | dgtl | mashed, yes, sadly it seems like that.. |
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| 11:17.46 | mashed | although imo i thnk ftp over http is fugly |
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| 11:19.18 | Iridos | ok, you wont say... so I'd run vsftpd and have a look if php-http-upload can cover the web-side for me |
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| 11:22.03 | Iridos | also thanks... "ftp for advanced users" was a good laugh... in the late 80ies early 90ies perhaps :) |
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| 11:22.35 | beardy | !ftpmustdie |
| 11:22.36 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html |
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| 11:24.36 | dgtl | Iridos, sorry, but you dont seem to understand how normal employees not linked to any it stuff think, the only thing they know is their webbrowser, employees which are able to use an ftp-client can be called advanced |
| 11:24.47 | dgtl | but i guess you just want to provoke so... |
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| 11:26.13 | Iridos | I just meant anyone you might call "advanced" would say "ftp? and transmit passwords in plaintext??" |
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| 11:29.53 | Iridos | hehe... http://fex.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/ I didn't have that problem... set up an anonymous ftp server with a non-writable download directory and a non-readably upload directory... so anyone could send me a file or I could make a file available to anyone |
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| 11:30.23 | Iridos | actually for downloads can just put stuff on the webserver |
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| 11:34.24 | mykhal | hi, someone knows what's with packages.debianbase.de ? |
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| 11:35.21 | mykhal | it resets connection (http). at least my one |
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| 11:36.45 | Iridos | I don't see such a server |
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| 11:36.48 | Iridos | what's it supposed to have |
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| 11:40.20 | mykhal | Iridos: it's debian repo, with e.g. freenx packages (http://wiki.debian.org/freenx) |
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| 12:00.42 | thomaschaaf | I installed nvidia-kernel-dkms a while ago and just found out, that opencl is not working (or activated) how would I go about activating that? |
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| 12:02.58 | Alam_Squeeze | thomaschaaf: do you have nvidia-opencl1 installed? |
| 12:03.50 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: http://pastie.org/3797743 nope I also don't have that |
| 12:04.01 | thomaschaaf | just the lib package |
| 12:04.08 | thomaschaaf | (don't know if thats the same= |
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| 12:04.40 | thomaschaaf | I do however have a 3.2 kernel so maybe somethings don't work. |
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| 12:05.26 | Alam_Squeeze | hmm, nvidia-opencl-icd? |
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| 12:06.58 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: http://pastie.org/3797766 thats available so I guess I should install that right? |
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| 12:11.39 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: is there a good way to check if it installed correctly? |
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| 12:15.00 | corpus | hello |
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| 12:15.48 | corpus | does anyone applied the latest apache2 security update ? |
| 12:15.56 | ksk | yap |
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| 12:16.16 | ksk | (did aptitutde upgrade this morning) |
| 12:16.33 | corpus | i want to ask if i have to remove the Alias /doc/ "/usr/share/doc/" fron the default configuration |
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| 12:16.48 | corpus | my english are not ok |
| 12:16.54 | ksk | xD |
| 12:17.05 | corpus | i read the security messages |
| 12:17.08 | Alam_Squeeze | thomaschaaf: I found https://bitbucket.org/codedivine/opencltests/, just need to fixu the makefile |
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| 12:17.48 | Alam_Squeeze | thomaschaaf: Makefile, http://pastebin.com/8iBMLqcm |
| 12:17.48 | corpus | and i understood that i have to remove Alias /doc/ "/usr/share/doc/" from default apache conf and from any .vhost also |
| 12:17.51 | corpus | am i ok ? |
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| 12:18.13 | ksk | sure corpus, go ahead |
| 12:18.14 | corpus | http://www.debian.org/security/2012/dsa-2452 |
| 12:18.27 | corpus | ok thanks ksk |
| 12:18.31 | ksk | if you dont need this things accessibly from the web you should have removed them already anyways |
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| 12:20.24 | abrotman | corpus: do you use that Alias anyway ? |
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| 12:20.39 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: hmm maybe I am not up to this :/ |
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| 12:20.58 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: updated the Makefile and now getting tons of errors |
| 12:21.10 | Alam_Squeeze | thomaschaaf: do you have libboost-dev installed? |
| 12:21.12 | corpus | yes was the default one |
| 12:21.38 | corpus | abrotman, yes was by default there |
| 12:21.54 | abrotman | corpus: but do you use any documents under that alias |
| 12:22.10 | Alam_Squeeze | thomaschaaf: a pastebin of errors would help |
| 12:22.16 | corpus | abrotman, i noticed today this |
| 12:22.19 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: http://pastie.org/3797826 |
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| 12:22.45 | thomaschaaf | but libboost-dev is installed |
| 12:22.56 | ecolitan | hello |
| 12:23.07 | Alam_Squeeze | thomaschaaf: opencl-headers |
| 12:23.21 | ecolitan | where can I find copies of packages from lenny |
| 12:23.50 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: I don't have that package |
| 12:24.04 | Alam_Squeeze | thomaschaaf: so no nvidia-opencl-dev too? |
| 12:24.34 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: that is my aptitude search uncensored :( |
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| 12:26.13 | cHarNe2 | hi guys, i'v been looking at a guide regarding presistant routes in debian, but what is the difference from post-up/pre-down and up/down? |
| 12:26.25 | Alam_Squeeze | thomaschaaf: nvidia-libopencl1-dev? |
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| 12:28.37 | linux-ninja | is there a broken library in squeeze? I am getting this message when running my MegaCli utility "error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory debian" |
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| 12:29.31 | Alam_Squeeze | linux-ninja: http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stable§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=libncurses.so.5 |
| 12:29.33 | ecolitan | i need to get a copy of the package php5-mysql from the old lenny repository, any ideas where I can still find it? |
| 12:29.53 | jelly | linux-ninja: which package is "MegaCli" part of? |
| 12:29.55 | daemonkeeper | !lenny sources.list |
| 12:29.55 | ecolitan | is there an archive of old dists somewhere? |
| 12:29.55 | dpkg | Lenny is no longer on the mirror network but can be found on archive.debian.org; you can use sources.list lines "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main". Realise that Lenny has not had security support since February 2012 and that you should upgrade to a newer, supported release. Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. |
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| 12:30.13 | linux-ninja | jelly, it is an independent package I downloaded from LSI |
| 12:30.15 | daemonkeeper | jelly: MegaCLI is a proprietary binary from DELL for their RAID controllers |
| 12:30.19 | daemonkeeper | Or LSI. |
| 12:30.21 | ecolitan | daemonkeeper: thanks! |
| 12:30.35 | jelly | daemonkeeper: so why are we searching for an error in Debian |
| 12:30.47 | daemonkeeper | jelly: We're not, linux-ninja is. |
| 12:31.13 | daemonkeeper | But Alam_Squeeze gave the correct answer. Installing proper dependencies will help linux-ninja out |
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| 12:31.44 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: I fucked up with aptitude and squeeze-backports so now I can't get nvidia-libopencl1-dev to be installed because it depends on something else :/ |
| 12:31.54 | Alam_Squeeze | NOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 12:32.41 | ecolitan | thomaschaaf: what does it depend on? |
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| 12:35.35 | thomaschaaf | okay got it installed |
| 12:35.37 | fabio | anybody know how to install gnome-boxes? |
| 12:35.52 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: same error test1.cpp:17:21: error: CL/cl.hpp: No such file or directory test1.cpp:21:33: error: boost/timer/timer.hpp: No such file or directory |
| 12:36.28 | fabio | I can found gnome-boxes in experimental and in sid |
| 12:36.37 | fabio | s/can/can't |
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| 12:37.18 | thomaschaaf | okay that did not fix stuff now nvidia-smi -q says that the componens are on 195 and the kernel has 275 :( |
| 12:37.33 | mbalmer | hi. anyone running squeeze on a Panasonic Toughbook CF-28? Can't get X to work (screen stays blank) |
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| 12:39.01 | abrotman | mbalmer: you may want to give more details, at least involving the video card model |
| 12:39.12 | Alam_Squeeze | thomaschaaf: you have libboost-timer-dev installed? |
| 12:39.59 | thomaschaaf | Alam_Squeeze: not available.. are my apt sources screwed up? |
| 12:39.59 | Alam_Squeeze | hmm, did I misspell the package? |
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| 12:40.05 | mbalmer | That is an Intel chipset, abrotman. ; Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 830M |
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| 12:40.18 | abrotman | mbalmer: that should just pretty much work .. how did you install X |
| 12:40.22 | linux-ninja | daemonkeeper, any clues as to where this is "libsysfs.so.2.0.2" |
| 12:40.39 | daemonkeeper | Use apt-file or packages.debian.org |
| 12:40.47 | mbalmer | abrotman, default install, and no, it does not work, unfortunately. I suspect the X Server |
| 12:40.59 | Alam_Squeeze | hmm, timer.hpp should be in libboost1.42-dev |
| 12:41.00 | abrotman | mbalmer: again .. how did you install X ? |
| 12:41.25 | mbalmer | abrotmann, the default install during the normal debian install. |
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| 12:41.48 | Alam_Squeeze | linux-ninja: try libsysfs2 |
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| 12:41.58 | abrotman | mbalmer: so you can't even get to a login prompt ? |
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| 12:42.06 | mbalmer | exactly. |
| 12:42.17 | mbalmer | well, I can login over the network. |
| 12:42.32 | abrotman | mbalmer: are you trying to use gnome? or some other WM ? |
| 12:42.48 | triscuit | sorry missed it earlier, apparmor is installed and enable in debian by default? |
| 12:43.04 | mbalmer | I am trying to use whatever debian installs by default, I think that is gnome, since it starts gdm3. |
| 12:43.05 | abrotman | no |
| 12:43.39 | abrotman | mbalmer:ssh in .. aptitude update;aptitude install xorg gnome gdm3 .. let's make sure it's all installed |
| 12:43.58 | mbalmer | it is installed. |
| 12:44.39 | mbalmer | I can manually start or stop it. it is the xserver. some settings in xorg.conf are needed, but I don't know what to try. whence I am looking for someone running that laptop. |
| 12:44.57 | abrotman | mbalmer: and /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist ? right ? |
| 12:45.21 | mbalmer | yes it does, I created one. but without, no chance either. |
| 12:45.29 | linux-ninja | Alam_Squeeze, sounds like this utility is turning into a nightmare to be install... I already install like about 5 packages and it still complaints |
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| 12:45.55 | abrotman | mbalmer: i should point out that generally, it's not needed |
| 12:46.09 | abrotman | mbalmer: try without, look at the Xorg.0.log in /var/log/ |
| 12:46.10 | mbalmer | I know ;) |
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| 12:46.55 | abrotman | nothing useful ? |
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| 12:47.14 | ChrisH | I am trying to gave dkms create the kernel modules for virtual box. it fails http://pastebin.com/hQQw74ZK Is my summary correct, there is no kernel header for my 3.2.0-1 but only for 3.2.0-2 ? And I need to install a new kernel and must boot now? |
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| 12:48.02 | abrotman | ChrisH: yes, you'd have to install the new kernel and reboot .. make sure you have the kernel metapackage installed |
| 12:48.09 | eugenmayer | Hello, looking at rc.2, openvpn should start pretty early, e.g before chef. Looiking at boot time, it always e.g. happens after chef / insignie, letting some of them fail during missing interfaces |
| 12:48.13 | abrotman | mbalmer: you could try adding in backports, see if some regression was fixed |
| 12:48.15 | eugenmayer | anybody has an idea why? |
| 12:48.51 | ChrisH | abrotman: thanks for confirming... Sad... booting is not an option yet |
| 12:49.45 | Alam_Squeeze | linux-ninja: you could run ldd on the binary to see what it needs |
| 12:50.16 | Alam_Squeeze | linux-ninja: 'ldd MegaCli' |
| 12:50.34 | linux-ninja | auch,, it mentiones it needs a whole bunch of stuff more |
| 12:50.52 | linux-ninja | wish I can just do a aptitude install MegaCli...:-) |
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| 12:55.02 | abrotman | !tell mbalmer about bpo |
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| 12:56.47 | thomaschaaf | with glxgears I tried to see what FPS I am getting. (195 FPS) is there a list where I can see what I should expect from my ion2? |
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| 12:58.05 | ChrisH | abrotman: Kernel Meta package: kernel-package or linux-image or something completely different? |
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| 13:04.45 | mbalmer | abrotman, thanks |
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| 13:10.18 | abrotman | ChrisH: what is uanme -a currently ? |
| 13:10.23 | abrotman | uh .. uname -a |
| 13:10.27 | abrotman | hates this keyboard |
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| 13:16.13 | ChrisH | abrotman: Linux aachen 3.2.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Feb 17 05:17:36 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 13:19.09 | iskywalker | Hi! |
| 13:19.32 | iskywalker | I am trying to setup a samba server but I get on the command: smbclient -L //localhost -U myuser |
| 13:19.42 | iskywalker | Can't become connected user |
| 13:19.47 | iskywalker | on the log |
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| 13:21.40 | ChrisH | iskywalker: does smbclient -N -L hostname show anything? |
| 13:21.45 | GTRsdk | How do I see what CPU flags my CPU has? |
| 13:22.13 | iskywalker | yes and my server is in it |
| 13:22.31 | mashed | GTRsdk: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 13:22.42 | mashed | or lscpu |
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| 13:23.06 | nsadmin | hmm, there are so many ls* now... |
| 13:23.26 | iskywalker | cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep flags |
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| 13:23.55 | GTRsdk | iskywalker: I only get pmac flags: 00000000 when I run that |
| 13:24.03 | SomeoneWeird | what's a good server monitor that can draw pretty graphs n shit? |
| 13:24.15 | SomeoneWeird | (lightweight too) |
| 13:24.27 | colo-work | Some_Person, take a look at munin |
| 13:24.27 | mashed | rrdtool |
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| 13:24.42 | nsadmin | if I just installed a samba, how can I test it? |
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| 13:24.58 | colo-work | nsadmin, run smbstatus on the server, and smbclient against it |
| 13:25.31 | WordpressNoob | debian 5. i'm trying to back up /var/www to an external hd. i can see it on GParted on the GUI (/dev/sdc) but i can't access it in the terminal |
| 13:25.38 | WordpressNoob | could anyone point me in the right direction |
| 13:25.41 | GTRsdk | mashed: I do not see a spot where it says flags:... |
| 13:26.21 | jordanm | WordpressNoob: "can't access"? |
| 13:26.26 | SomeoneWeird | WordpressNoob, mount it first? |
| 13:26.29 | mashed | GTRsdk: i was wrong it was not on lscpu it is only on `cat /proc/cpuinfo` |
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| 13:26.41 | WordpressNoob | oh, ok i will look up the command for that |
| 13:27.09 | SomeoneWeird | mkdir /hdd2 && mount /dev/sdc1 /hdd2 |
| 13:27.15 | SomeoneWeird | probably |
| 13:27.17 | Synthead | what is debian's equivalent to the 'wheel' group? |
| 13:27.42 | Synthead | WHEEL, JEEZ |
| 13:27.45 | Synthead | omg |
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| 13:28.01 | Synthead | totally saw it, it IS wheel ... my bad |
| 13:28.21 | GTRsdk | mashed: Now I see "pmac flags", but it says 00000000. Is there a way I can find out what that means? |
| 13:28.35 | iskywalker | ok problem fixed with pdbedit -a -u myuser |
| 13:28.45 | mashed | GTRsdk: what cpu is it? |
| 13:28.58 | WordpressNoob | ok next problem. how can i make the dir without being in the sudoers file? i have physical and root access but root is disabled on the terminal by default |
| 13:29.11 | GTRsdk | mashed: PPC970 |
| 13:29.44 | mashed | GTRsdk: well it's not going to have any intel flags, that's for sure |
| 13:29.51 | jordanm | WordpressNoob: su |
| 13:29.56 | babilen | !tell Synthead -about wheel |
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| 13:30.04 | babilen | Synthead: What are you trying to do? |
| 13:30.08 | SomeoneWeird | WordpressNoob, just mount it somewhere you have access lke /home/youruser/backupharddrive |
| 13:30.25 | WordpressNoob | jordanm, thanks |
| 13:30.37 | Synthead | babilen: lost my wheel group for a minute, that's all. I understand how it works :) |
| 13:30.42 | WordpressNoob | SomeoneWeird, does it matter if the space the user has access to is < the size of the usb hd? |
| 13:30.47 | nsadmin | if you -must-, you can make a wheel group and there should somewhere out there be an example for pam |
| 13:30.56 | SomeoneWeird | nop WordpressNoob |
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| 13:32.19 | babilen | Synthead: The wheel group is irrelevant on Debian. Hence my question :) |
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| 13:33.03 | johannes1 | hi, how can I find out, if pciback is compiled into the debian kernel or added as a module? |
| 13:33.04 | babilen | Synthead: You might want to read /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz to learn about standard groups on a Debian system. |
| 13:33.06 | Synthead | babilen: I want to sudo commands as a regular user |
| 13:33.34 | babilen | Synthead: Then you want to add that user to the sudo group or configure it more detailed in sudoers (/msg dpkg sudoers) |
| 13:33.56 | babilen | Synthead: Also make sure that sudo is installed, but that is probably a given |
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| 13:34.57 | Synthead | babilen: ahh, okay, so I was onto something by popping my nose in here then. no wonder it wasn't respecting /etc/sudoers :) works now, thanks! |
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| 13:35.52 | babilen | Synthead: No problem, have fun! (You can, naturally, configure sudo to grant privileges to members of the wheel group, but we have sudo for that) |
| 13:36.07 | babilen | s/sudo/the sudo group/ |
| 13:36.50 | WordpressNoob | ok soo mkdir /mnt/sdc1 |
| 13:36.56 | WordpressNoob | mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/sdc1 |
| 13:37.02 | abrotman | ChrisH: so your metapackage woudl be linux-image-amd64 .. make sure it's installed |
| 13:37.09 | abrotman | mbalmer: any luck ? |
| 13:37.20 | Synthead | babilen: a glibc upgrade broke ruby-enterprise on my native system (Arch), so I'm falling back to old reliable in a VM 'till this gets resolved. In times like these, stability and robustness is even more fun than bleeding edge, heh. |
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| 13:38.21 | nsadmin | WordpressNoob, if that'w what you want... |
| 13:38.47 | babilen | johannes1: Check /boot/config-$(uname -r) -- Which configuration key is this? CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND ? |
| 13:38.58 | WordpressNoob | now, i don't care if anyone can access this backup (privilege wise) so is it safe to just use W95 FAT32? |
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| 13:39.38 | nkuttler | WordpressNoob: certainly not |
| 13:39.38 | nsadmin | why would you want to do that? |
| 13:40.05 | nsadmin | and what do you mean by safe? |
| 13:40.09 | babilen | Synthead: Ack -- Let us know if you have further questions. Might make sense to host important services on a Debian box rather than Arch though :) |
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| 13:40.43 | WordpressNoob | nkuttler, can you elaborate? |
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| 13:41.26 | johannes1 | babilen http://pastebin.com/RJdMvvF1 |
| 13:41.59 | babilen | johannes1: Please use http://paste.debian.net and not pastebin.com (I hate it with a passion) |
| 13:42.19 | babilen | johannes1: So, does that answer your question? |
| 13:42.26 | nsadmin | meetoo... maybe pastebinit should be removed from debian... |
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| 13:42.42 | ChrisH | abrotman: done.. now I have at least kernel modules for 3.2.0-2-amd64 and virtualbox up after the next possible reboot. Thanks! |
| 13:42.49 | babilen | nsadmin: It uses sane default since wheezy |
| 13:43.29 | nsadmin | meanwhile, here's another alternative: aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl |
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| 13:44.48 | johannes1 | babilen I guess this means it is a module. I found a howto for changing the initrd to preload pciback before all other drivers, this is the command: mkinitrd -v -f --preload xen-pciback /boot/initramfs-XXXXX.img it is for fedora, so I dont know if it works for debian and or, what it actually does. Any ideas? |
| 13:45.19 | nsadmin | then you can whatevercommand | nopaste |
| 13:45.34 | nkuttler | WordpressNoob: define safe |
| 13:46.08 | babilen | johannes1: I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to achieve and why you would want to achieve that. I also have no idea why CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND is relevant for that. But yeah: It is compiled as a module. |
| 13:47.24 | WordpressNoob | nkuttler, i need something readable by Linux and Windows |
| 13:47.51 | WordpressNoob | i will run a VirtualBox on a Windows box to test the backups |
| 13:47.59 | WordpressNoob | but the backups will be done from Debian 5 |
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| 13:50.38 | nsadmin | WordpressNoob, noting in passing that debian 5 (lenny) ended 2 months ago |
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| 13:51.27 | WordpressNoob | nsadmin, yes well i don't choose what i inherit. i just do my best with the hand i'm dealt |
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| 13:52.05 | nsadmin | oh, so this is not your box? |
| 13:52.37 | WordpressNoob | that i made? no. but now that i'm responsible for it i'm gonna back it up before i do anything |
| 13:52.50 | WordpressNoob | my linux-fu is poor though |
| 13:53.12 | nsadmin | good call |
| 13:53.22 | nsadmin | backup before doing anything, that is |
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| 13:58.06 | nsadmin | what are you backing up exactly? |
| 13:58.10 | nsadmin | the debian? |
| 14:00.37 | nsadmin | do you already know how you will restore the backup? |
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| 14:01.25 | ChrisH | nsadmin: The most important question for a backup :) |
| 14:01.27 | Arafangion | nsadmin: It pains me not to respond to that. :) |
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| 14:02.08 | linux-ninja | Thank you guys , I was able to manage to get MegaCLi running, now off to learn all the crazzy commands of the CLI. ;-) |
| 14:02.23 | colo-work | you poor soul. |
| 14:02.29 | WordpressNoob | nsadmin, i'm only backing up the /var/www and dumping the mysql table to a .sql |
| 14:02.35 | WordpressNoob | i don't need anything else from this box |
| 14:02.46 | jordanm | FML |
| 14:02.56 | jordanm | wrong acronym |
| 14:02.59 | linux-ninja | colo-work, I am targeting the basics, there is not way I am targetting the whole LSi manual |
| 14:03.27 | WordpressNoob | ive only experience restoring those things through a web UI like phpmyadmin and FTP, but i'll learn locally |
| 14:03.27 | Arafangion | WordpressNoob: Consider doing full backups, you're likely to forget something otherwise. |
| 14:03.34 | Arafangion | WordpressNoob: For example, certificates. |
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| 14:03.47 | WordpressNoob | there are none on this box |
| 14:03.47 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 14:04.00 | WordpressNoob | but i will once i set up a new box the way i want it |
| 14:04.15 | ChrisH | linux-ninja: I dont want to open the pandoras box, but do you really want to use HW Raid Controller? |
| 14:04.36 | johnfg | my grub in debian squeeze is unable to boot gentoo, but it boots squeeze, windoze and lenny with no problems. |
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| 14:05.06 | johnfg | Is there a newer grub that might solve this problem in backports or in wheezy? |
| 14:05.07 | linux-ninja | ChrisH, unfortunately, that is what I was given to work with in this job...can't change it as per internal policies. |
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| 14:06.16 | babilen | johnfg: Do you know why that happens? (That is: What is special about gentoo?) |
| 14:06.19 | ChrisH | linux-ninja: Most of our customers did remove them and use them obnly for the hotplug functions |
| 14:06.29 | babilen | johnfg: What happens if you try to boot it? |
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| 14:07.29 | Iridos | nsadmin, we had that recently, didn't we... nopastes default server is also down or changed format, so it uses the next alternative one, which ends up at git.github.com and spits errors until it does |
| 14:07.47 | johnfg | babilen, I've got a couple of pastes of my squeeze grub.cfg if you want to see it. But I get these three errors: |
| 14:08.13 | babilen | johnfg: Please paste them to http://paste.debian.net (if more than, say, 2 lines) |
| 14:08.17 | johnfg | error: no such device: 6e203a9f-5549-4c3c-a0ef-84d309ec83f8 |
| 14:08.35 | johnfg | then it gives: error: no such partition |
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| 14:08.48 | johnfg | and finally it gives: error: you need to load the kernel first. |
| 14:08.49 | eeemsi | hi there |
| 14:09.04 | babilen | johnfg: Could you show me the output of "blkid" and "update-grub" along with the generated grub.cfg please? |
| 14:09.05 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/163375 |
| 14:09.17 | eeemsi | what does that mean -> WARNING: <options:softlimit> value is greater than 1024 or less than 0, set to 1024. |
| 14:09.28 | babilen | johnfg: Also include /etc/default/grub if you made changes to that. |
| 14:09.44 | eeemsi | that message is produced by the current inspircd in stable |
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| 14:10.36 | johnfg | babilen, That paste is a hand modified grub.cfg where I substituted the root=/dev/sdb13 for the root=UUID=, and the relevant lines are 105-112. |
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| 14:11.33 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/163372 This is what was output by sh -c "update-grub2 && grub-install" /dev/sda |
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| 14:11.51 | Iridos | johnfg, the question is... is there a device with id 6e203a9f-5549-4c3c-a0ef-84d309ec83f8 |
| 14:11.54 | babilen | johnfg: Ok -- You should not edit that file by hand as it is autogenerated and your changes will be frequently overwritten. May I see the output of the commands above? (Save "your" grub.cfg somewhere before that) -- Does it work if you don't make manual changes? |
| 14:12.10 | babilen | johnfg: Please also show us the output of "blkid" |
| 14:12.12 | johnfg | Iridos, Yes, that's the /boot partition of gentoo. |
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| 14:13.19 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/163410/ this is the output of blkid. |
| 14:13.45 | johnfg | grub2 boots the rest of the distros without a problem. |
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| 14:15.54 | babilen | johnfg: So: First of all /dev/sdb13 has a UUID of ce2a9820-db1e-4175-ae9c-94195d5fa831 not 6e203a9f-5549-4c3c-a0ef-84d309ec83f8 (that is /dev/sdb11) -- Does it work with the generated grub.cfg? (i.e. with /dev/sdb13 and *not* your manual changes?) |
| 14:16.20 | eeemsi | inspircd produces a load of 1.00 y ever … i'll need a hint how to fix that |
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| 14:17.36 | babilen | johnfg: btw: "sh -c "update-grub2 && grub-install" /dev/sda" is wrong -- Note that /dev/sda is trailing |
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| 14:19.34 | jargon- | how do i get the "Suggests" pkgs included in aptitude install, without actually typing them out one by one? |
| 14:19.41 | mbalmer | abrotman, no luck, X does not have an LVDS driver for that laptop |
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| 14:20.11 | abrotman | mbalmer: wouldn't think you'd need one .. should it be able to probe ? |
| 14:20.11 | johnfg | babilen, On your previous comment, if you look at the other entries for os's, you'll see the two id numbers. On squeeze, the first number, after the set is for the /boot partition. The root=UUID= number is for /. |
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| 14:20.55 | johnfg | How should that command be run? If you wouldn't mind typing it in the way I should have done it (but it ran without the /dev/sda at all. |
| 14:21.07 | mbalmer | abrotman, yes it needs a driver. but since the kms changes in X, this chipset combo does not work anymore. |
| 14:21.56 | abrotman | mbalmer: so you're SOL ? |
| 14:23.00 | abrotman | jargon-: -o APT::Install-Suggests="true" .. make the appropriate change in your apt.conf |
| 14:23.03 | mbalmer | abrotman, whatever SOL means, and please see pm ;) |
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| 14:23.29 | abrotman | mbalmer: Shit Outta Luck :) |
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| 14:24.49 | mbalmer | heh, yes, definitely. |
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| 14:27.08 | jargon- | abrotman: is it aptitude -o APT::Install-Suggest="true" abcde? what's the apropriate change in apt.conf? i don't want this for all pkgs, just for this one |
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| 14:27.49 | WordpressNoob | ok so using gparted i successfully unmounted and reformated the usb hd to fat32. now there's an exclamation mark warning saying "Unable to read the contents of this filesystem! Because of this some operations may be unavailable." |
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| 14:28.27 | abrotman | jargon-: i gave you a huge hint .. google should be able to help you witgh the rest |
| 14:28.46 | jargon- | aaah. the hint channel |
| 14:28.48 | jargon- | k, thanks |
| 14:29.11 | WordpressNoob | does this mean i have to install something to have Debian 5 read the fat32 partition? |
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| 14:30.08 | abrotman | jargon-: it should be the same as teh recmmends stuff .. so it may already be there |
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| 14:30.23 | jordanm | WordpressNoob: is this actually a production site you are trying to backup to a fat32 usb stick? |
| 14:30.38 | WordpressNoob | yes |
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| 14:34.28 | dzan | hi, running crunchbang which is debian 6 actually, installed nvidia drivers and used dual screen, when i removed one screen and resaved the xorg.conf something went wrong, I cant boot now, after grub the screen just remains dark |
| 14:34.40 | dzan | ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't work, ctr+alt+Fx doesn't work |
| 14:34.45 | dzan | recovery mode same thing |
| 14:34.59 | dzan | tried running on runlevel 1 or 3 by adding it to the grub kernel arguments doesn't work neither.. |
| 14:35.03 | dzan | any ideas? |
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| 14:35.24 | fir31ight | swap your monitor cable to the other port |
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| 14:36.26 | Iridos | dpkg, crunchbag |
| 14:36.26 | dpkg | Iridos: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 14:36.34 | dzan | fir31ight, oke i'll try that |
| 14:36.34 | Iridos | dpkg, crunchbang |
| 14:36.34 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbanglinux.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
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| 14:37.03 | Iridos | dzan, it's only debian-based, not debian... ask them |
| 14:37.05 | fir31ight | on snap, not supported :D |
| 14:37.23 | dzan | Iridos, i did but no help |
| 14:37.24 | Aenigma | gravity: you can try to disable the framebuffer when you boot or boot into singleuser mode. after you log in, you can remove the offending driver |
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| 14:38.10 | dzan | fir31ight, switched cable same effect |
| 14:38.11 | Aenigma | er, dzan |
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| 14:38.23 | dzan | Aenigma, well recovery mode should boot in singleuser moden no? |
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| 14:39.26 | Aenigma | dzan: does recovery mode boot with a framebuffer? |
| 14:39.37 | dzan | how can i disable framebuffer from in grub? |
| 14:39.54 | dzan | Aenigma, well some output while loading the kernel scrolls over the screen but when it switches to fb it goes black |
| 14:39.56 | Aenigma | dzan: i believe vga=normal nomodeset works |
| 14:40.06 | dzan | ( when normally the font would get smaller and colerful ) |
| 14:40.31 | Aenigma | dzan: that's because it's going through init. i don't think single user mode is supposed to do that |
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| 14:41.02 | dzan | Aenigma, added both vga=normal and nomodeset to kernel parameters, same thing |
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| 14:41.10 | dzan | Aenigma, there is "single" as argument for the kernel so.. |
| 14:42.10 | dzan | the relevant stuff in grub is just the linux /boot/vmlinuz-... command and after that the initrd / boot/initrd... right? |
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| 14:43.23 | Aenigma | dzan: it's at the end of the line describing the kernel location |
| 14:43.40 | dzan | Aenigma, I know after "splash and quiet" which i removed |
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| 14:43.58 | dzan | Aenigma, should I remove initrd ... since you said it shouldn't init? |
| 14:44.17 | Aenigma | dzan: do init=/bin/bash |
| 14:44.39 | dzan | Aenigma, and remove initrd /boot/initrd.img... ? |
| 14:44.51 | Aenigma | dzan: no, you shouldn't need to do that |
| 14:45.23 | dzan | so after that line I add init=/bin/bash and i leave the initrd command in place? |
| 14:45.45 | Aenigma | dzan: yes |
| 14:46.14 | Aenigma | dzan: realize that that's not a line; it goes at the end of the kernel arguments. like where "single" and "quiet" and "splash" would be |
| 14:46.20 | dzan | ah ok |
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| 14:47.11 | dzan | Aenigma, so currently i have "linux /boot/vmlinuz.... root=UUID=..... ro vga=normal nomodeset init=/bin/bash" |
| 14:47.15 | jargon- | for some reason on my squeeze 6.0.4 neither aptitude nor apt-get recognize --install-suggests. how come? |
| 14:47.25 | jargon- | not even in the man pages |
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| 14:47.42 | Aenigma | dzan: and it doesn't work? |
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| 14:48.07 | dzan | Aenigma, yes it did now |
| 14:48.15 | dzan | Aenigma, i added it at end of grub arguments at first |
| 14:48.26 | dzan | shit |
| 14:48.29 | dzan | my keyboard is wireless |
| 14:48.35 | Iridos | jargon-, what makes you think it should recognize that option? |
| 14:48.36 | eeemsi | could anyone give me a hint why inspircd does produce heavy load on one core(debian stable - InspIRCd-1.1.22+Azeitao r0)? |
| 14:48.37 | dzan | doesnt work in this mode |
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| 14:49.27 | dzan | Aenigma, any idea how to get the keyboard working for this? :D |
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| 14:49.34 | nsadmin | jargon-, if the command doesn't recognize it... and it's also not in the man page... what would be your conclusion? |
| 14:49.46 | dzan | ( didn't require to install a driver but guessing that's a kernel module or something not loaded this way ) |
| 14:49.50 | Kotus | sun-jre and wine for debian? |
| 14:49.55 | eeemsi | i thought it would be related to that softlimit thigng … but it does not seem that way |
| 14:50.22 | Aenigma | dzan: you don't have init running now. you don't have anything loading kernel modules. |
| 14:50.24 | jargon- | Iridos: well, oddly enough it keeps popping up in my search results for how to get apt to install the suggested pkgs for one specific pkg installation.... |
| 14:50.55 | fir31ight | jargon-: think that's only for ubuntu |
| 14:51.02 | dzan | shit so no keyboard |
| 14:51.23 | jargon- | fir31ight: aah i see. thank u |
| 14:51.46 | jargon- | the hazards of having ubuntu in your top search results. *sigh* |
| 14:51.47 | Aenigma | dzan: when you tried the other methods, were you doing it correctly? That is, always at the end of kernel arguments? |
| 14:52.09 | dzan | Aenigma, nomodeset and vga=normal yes |
| 14:52.23 | dzan | i'll try again but i'm 99% sure |
| 14:52.42 | Aenigma | dzan: changing runlevels, too? |
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| 14:53.10 | dzan | Aenigma, yes, i'd just have to add a 3 or a 1 after everything right? |
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| 14:53.30 | dzan | Aenigma, wouldn't need nomodeset and such right? |
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| 14:53.56 | dzan | Aenigma, does "ro" have to be there as kernel argument? |
| 14:54.04 | Iridos | jargon-, the manpage doesn't mention it, so whatever reason there is it turns up in your searches,,, probably not relevant |
| 14:54.22 | jelly | Kotus: which debian release? For Wine, there's no package for stable. Probably best to build from source into a custom prefix. Alternatively try backporting the sources from /msg dpkg newer wine |
| 14:54.29 | Aenigma | dzan: you want 1 |
| 14:54.44 | dzan | Aenigma, I just tried root=..... nomodeset vga=normal 1 |
| 14:54.51 | dzan | black screen as with everything else |
| 14:54.59 | dzan | ( with ro between ) |
| 14:55.01 | jargon- | Iridos: got it. :-0 |
| 14:55.02 | jelly | Kotus: for java, use make-jpkg from the java-package package. |
| 14:55.06 | jargon- | :-) * |
| 14:55.21 | jelly | Kotus: (available only on testing and unstable, but installable on stable as well) |
| 14:55.39 | nsadmin | itz a undocumented and disabled feature! |
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| 14:56.40 | Kotus | thans a lot jelly |
| 14:56.41 | Iridos | jargon-, it's easy enough to see the suggests though with "apt-get show <packagename>" (append "|grep Suggest" if you like) |
| 14:56.48 | Aenigma | dzan: do you have ethernet? |
| 14:56.55 | dzan | Aenigma, yes |
| 14:57.06 | Aenigma | dzan: do you have sshd on your machine? |
| 14:57.31 | dzan | Aenigma, thought about that too :p nop I don't and wouldn't know dynamic ip and can't acces router to assign one to the mac |
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| 14:57.50 | jargon- | Iridos: oh, i know how to see them. what i'm trying to achieve is to get apt to install them, without me having to type them out one by one, u know? |
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| 14:58.44 | alex- | Anyone haves experience with rssh? |
| 14:58.45 | dzan | w00t Aenigma ssh does run! |
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| 14:59.00 | dzan | Aenigma, must have installed it at one point and ip is the one I've last seen |
| 14:59.26 | Aenigma | dzan: let this be a lesson to be very afraid when installing proprietary drivers :3 |
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| 15:01.13 | alex- | Don't have any |
| 15:01.13 | dzan | Aenigma, guess there is nothing left then to find me a keyboard somewhere? |
| 15:01.31 | Iridos | eeemsi, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;package=inspircd could... but seems not to. You could install the version with debugging symbols and run gdb on it to see what it does... or possibly strace |
| 15:01.36 | nsadmin | alex-, ok. what would you like to accomplish? |
| 15:01.40 | jargon- | Iridos: aah, found it. it's: apt-get -oAPT::Install-Suggests=true install <pkg> |
| 15:01.43 | jargon- | thanks :-) |
| 15:01.46 | alex- | nsadmin: I'm not sure if I should use rssh or /bin/false as a shell and then change openssh-server config |
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| 15:01.53 | Aenigma | dzan: well, you're screwed unless you can get a more simple keyboard which youcan work without init really running, using a livecd, or you use the hdd to another Linux machine and modify from there. |
| 15:02.04 | alex- | nsadmin: What I like is something like /bin/bash to select, but then chrooted sftp |
| 15:02.04 | nsadmin | ohh, restricted shell |
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| 15:02.51 | Iridos | jargon-, ah, good. couldn't find that either |
| 15:02.53 | dzan | Aenigma, downloaded ubuntu but since version 10.11 the livecd always drops this machine in busybox don't know why guess i'll have to find another livecd, know a small one i can download quick? |
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| 15:03.30 | Aenigma | dzan: if you're going to use a new disk for it, get systemrescuecd |
| 15:03.35 | alex- | nsadmin: ywa |
| 15:03.36 | alex- | yes * |
| 15:03.44 | dzan | Aenigma, ok thx |
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| 15:04.49 | nsadmin | alex-, ok... hmm. chrooting (for this purpose) takes a lot to support it, the main thing being to have a copy of any lib and bin needed |
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| 15:05.17 | nsadmin | if the chrooted user will execute a command, then the command and all needed libs must be in the chroot |
| 15:05.49 | Aenigma | dzan: do you know what to do from the live environment? you want to mount your hdd in a directory so that it represents how your system is mounted. then you have to chroot into it and run aptitude or what have you to remove drivers |
| 15:05.55 | Woet | alex-: rssh works great. |
| 15:06.25 | nsadmin | so one thing you could consider is having a whole machine that's separate from the machine with the things you don't want for them to run |
| 15:06.31 | nsadmin | or read |
| 15:06.33 | alex- | Woet: better than http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/229 ? |
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| 15:06.48 | dzan | Aenigma, was going to google that, actually my first plan was to just mount the disk and see if there is a xorg.conf backup file to restore to |
| 15:06.49 | Woet | alex-: I have no idea, never tried that solution. |
| 15:08.04 | nsadmin | alex-, what is it you don't want them to be able to do? |
| 15:08.09 | Aenigma | dzan: your problem isn't x because your fb screws up in runlevels where x isn't even loaded |
| 15:08.23 | alex- | nsadmin: they may only upload and edit and download files n stuff in their home directory |
| 15:08.24 | dzan | Aenigma, ah crap is it that bad |
| 15:08.30 | alex- | e.g. /home/alex/ |
| 15:09.10 | dzan | Aenigma, so mount chroot then apt-get remove nvidia stuff and hope nouveau kicks in ? |
| 15:09.31 | nsadmin | what is outside their home dir you don't want them to access? |
| 15:09.35 | Aenigma | dzan: you can reinstall the appropriate replacement drivers |
| 15:10.16 | dzan | Aenigma, so manually install nouveau |
| 15:10.35 | alex- | nsadmin: my files |
| 15:10.48 | nsadmin | which are in what dir? |
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| 15:10.59 | Aenigma | dzan: i wouldn't call it manual when you use apt but yeah |
| 15:11.04 | alex- | nsadmin: idk exactly what dir |
| 15:11.14 | alex- | nsadmin: I want them to only be able to get inside their own home dir |
| 15:11.16 | dzan | Aenigma, hehe ok :p |
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| 15:11.55 | nsadmin | this rssh thing, I dunno if that will help or not... it would be worth taking a look at its feature list |
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| 15:12.36 | dzan | ( Aenigma the whole reason I installed the nvidia driver is because dual screen set-up wasn't supported the way I want to with nouveau and xrandr and such ) |
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| 15:14.05 | tdrusk1 | I assume this is my crappy graphics card. Is there any way to fix this? I am currently running open source ati drivers and I have tried using the proprietary and they didn't perform any better. http://i.imgur.com/d9JFj.gif |
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| 15:17.52 | alex- | tdrusk1: how to create that gifs? |
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| 15:19.54 | nsadmin | alex-, so you have a machine someone could shell into, and you want to allow that? |
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| 15:20.15 | nsadmin | are these people you know well? |
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| 15:24.24 | tdrusk1 | alex-: install byzanz and run byzanz-record output.gif in terminal. |
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| 15:26.09 | nsadmin | alex-, if the machine has sensitive data on it, why not have a separate machine for them to connect to? if you want, you can even not make yourself an account there, OR have an account and put no files in it |
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| 15:27.35 | alex- | nsadmin: because a seperate machine costs more money |
| 15:27.44 | alex- | And I also need to be able to access the files |
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| 15:27.55 | alex- | e.g. the people may upload stuff to the server for a game |
| 15:28.03 | alex- | but they may not edit/see/download my stuff |
| 15:28.23 | nsadmin | what kind of machine do you have already? what cpu, how much ram? |
| 15:29.12 | nsadmin | is this local or a remote? |
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| 15:29.53 | jair | hello guys, in debian should we using libreoffice instead of openoffice? |
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| 15:30.19 | babilen | jair: Depends on your version of Debian. Stable (i.e. squeeze) comes with OO, but libre can be installed from backports. |
| 15:30.27 | nsadmin | I think I heard something ablut libre replacing open? |
| 15:30.37 | babilen | That is the case (not in stable though) |
| 15:30.44 | jair | I was reading about what happened with openoffice and the oracle show and libreoffice separated from Oracle |
| 15:31.13 | jair | I see, thank you veyr much |
| 15:31.26 | jair | there is a .deb available on their website so I will give that a try |
| 15:31.33 | babilen | jair: OO is in squeeze/stable. If you want libreoffice you have to install it from backports. (/msg dpkg bdo) |
| 15:32.14 | jair | babilen: can't I use the .deb listed on their site? |
| 15:32.15 | babilen | jair: No, don't do that. You can install libreoffice from backports (official Debian repositories) -- There is (and there never should!) be a reason to use third-party .debs of dubious quality. |
| 15:32.22 | floh` | hi |
| 15:32.34 | jair | babilen: understand |
| 15:32.44 | babilen | jair: I have no idea what horrible things they do in their .deb, which version of Debian (if at all) they target and so on. Just use backports and be happy. |
| 15:33.10 | jair | babilen: got it, thank you for the info and advice, appreciated |
| 15:33.11 | floh` | i want to replace this line "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" in my sources.list by my univerity's mirror. the mirror is at http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/debian/. what do i need to change? |
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| 15:33.25 | babilen | jair: It might work, it might not. libreoffice is officially maintained by Debian and you can (easily) install it from backports. You get high-quality .debs and security support that way. |
| 15:33.32 | babilen | jair: Have fun! :) |
| 15:33.49 | Iridos | \o/? |
| 15:34.07 | babilen | floh`: Are you sure that your university mirrors security? (that is an uncommon thing to do) |
| 15:34.20 | floh` | babilen: ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/debian/debian-security/ |
| 15:34.22 | floh` | i think so |
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| 15:36.37 | babilen | floh`: Should be "deb http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/debian/debian-security/ squeeze/security main contrib non-free" then -- I still recommend security.debian.org though (cf. http://www.debian.org/security/faq#mirror) |
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| 15:38.38 | floh` | babilen: how often does security update, and when upgrading once or twice a week, how many data will be transferred from security? |
| 15:39.11 | floh` | i'm considering changing the mirror because i have limited traffic "to outside", but unlimited access to this mirror |
| 15:39.17 | nsadmin | that would be a bunch of guesses, in fact on top of more guesses |
| 15:39.51 | floh` | nsadmin: only circa. between 1 and 5 MB a week, between 10 and 50MB, between 100 and 500MB, more than 2GB? |
| 15:40.04 | Iridos | oh fucking aptitude |
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| 15:40.14 | tdrusk1 | Iridos: problems? |
| 15:40.54 | babilen | floh`: I wouldn't expect many changes. Are you concerned about bandwith? What is your setup? AFAICT security.debian.org gets you different mirrors based on DNS aliases. |
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| 15:40.59 | nsadmin | if I were to guess, bet. 10-100mb |
| 15:41.06 | Iridos | seems it doesn't like my year-long habit of ctrl-C-ing out of it when I notice I didn't see something apt is going to do in the preview |
| 15:41.21 | babilen | I'm with nsadmin on that |
| 15:41.34 | jair | babilen: the only thing is that, the version available on backports is older than the latest one :( |
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| 15:42.24 | babilen | ,versions libreoffice |
| 15:42.25 | judd | Package: libreoffice on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.4.6-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:3.4.6-2; sid: 1:3.5.2-3 |
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| 15:42.35 | Iridos | jair, and what feature does the latest version have that you are missing in the one in backports? |
| 15:42.36 | babilen | ,ssb libreoffice |
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| 15:42.43 | babilen | ,checkbackport libreoffice |
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| 15:42.56 | judd | Backporting package libreoffice in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libpoppler-private-dev, libpoppler-cpp-dev, libgraphite2-dev (>= 0.9.3) [!alpha !armel !sparc], libexttextcat-dev (>= 3.1.1), openjdk-6-jdk (>= 6b23~pre8-2) [alpha amd64 armel armhf i386 mips mipsel powerpc powerpcspe ppc64 s390 s390x sparc], mingw-w64 (>= 1.0), libcommons-logging-java (>= 1.1.1-9), libbase-java |
| 15:42.57 | judd | [!armel !armhf !hppa !powerpc !powerpcspe !ppc64 !kfreebsd-amd64 !kfreebsd-i386], libxml-java (>= 1.1.6) [!armel !armhf !hppa !powerpc !powerpcspe !ppc64 !kfreebsd-amd64 !kfreebsd-i386], libpentaho-reporting-flow-engine-java (>= 0.9.4) [!armel !armhf !hppa !powerpc !powerpcspe !ppc64 !kfreebsd-amd64 !kfreebsd-i386], liblayout-java (>= 0.2.10) [!armel !armhf !hppa !powerpc !powerpcspe !ppc64 !kfreebsd-amd64 !kfreebs |
| 15:43.08 | jelly | funky |
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| 15:43.46 | babilen | jair: You will (most likely) have to deal with missing dependencies when you try to install their version. I strongly recommend the one from backports. Are you sure that their version is meant for Debian squeeze? |
| 15:43.47 | nsadmin | the mirror pulses happen daily, and when they do is when the next batch of stuff could become available. many times, the mirror pulse happens and nothing there for security |
| 15:43.52 | Iridos | jair?? |
| 15:43.57 | jair | Iridos: visio import, and a lot of fixes |
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| 15:44.51 | jair | babilen: I believe so I can try to install it in a virtual machine I have here for testing |
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| 15:46.14 | babilen | jair: I am also unable to download their .deb and am reluctant to spend more time search for it -- Could you give me the download link please? |
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| 15:46.52 | afuentes | some unicode chars does not show in iceweasel. How do i know what fonts are those? |
| 15:47.09 | babilen | jair: Ah, found it .. |
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| 15:49.24 | jair | babilen: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?nodetect what do you think? |
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| 15:50.17 | Iridos | afuentes, you mean what fonts supply them? Not easily... There's a program that (kind of) shows what font they're in when you have a font that can display that character... |
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| 15:50.46 | Iridos | and even that seemed to just display some default-font a lot of the times |
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| 15:51.37 | afuentes | Iridos, the unicode shows a number, the unicode number i guess... its not possible to find a font with that_ |
| 15:51.39 | afuentes | ? |
| 15:52.38 | Iridos | what character is it? |
| 15:53.06 | babilen | jair: I have no idea about their .debs -- They look a bit weird (e.g. they don't even declare Dependencies on java AFAICT) -- No idea, I wouldn't use them. Use the backported ones, but you can certainly experiment in a VM and decide that you want to use their .debs. (voids warranty though and we can *not* support that) |
| 15:53.12 | afuentes | 01F4A9 |
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| 15:53.59 | Iridos | jargon-, argh... I wonder if my aptitude installs them by default |
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| 15:55.27 | afuentes | iridos, how did u find that that? |
| 15:55.33 | Iridos | tdrusk1, actually... the more I run the occasional "aptitude -f install", the more I regret using aptitude from time to time |
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| 15:56.21 | babilen | afuentes: It is 01F611 EXPRESSIONLESS FACE -- No idea which font has that though. |
| 15:56.27 | Iridos | afuentes, 💩? |
| 15:56.42 | afuentes | nah, i cant see it |
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| 15:56.49 | Iridos | well, be glad |
| 15:56.53 | babilen | 😑 |
| 15:56.55 | babilen | ? |
| 15:56.55 | Iridos | it's a wossname |
| 15:57.05 | Iridos | steaming dog-shit |
| 15:57.12 | afuentes | nop, that one either |
| 15:57.13 | Iridos | or, as we call it "poo" |
| 15:57.19 | babilen | I can't see it as well -- oh, is it STEAMING PILE OF SHIT ? |
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| 15:57.34 | afuentes | how can i live in a world where my browser cant display poo characters? |
| 15:57.36 | Iridos | if all your effort is for seeing this one, I would stop them right now |
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| 15:58.32 | Iridos | afuentes, how can you live in one where it can? |
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| 15:58.47 | babilen | afuentes: Is this really a problem? |
| 15:59.12 | jair | babilen: not problem I will test on the VM and see if I get any dependency errors. Thank you for the help |
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| 16:00.48 | babilen | Iridos, afuentes: Reminds me of http://www.reigndesign.com/blog/love-hotels-and-unicode/ -- I *really* don't understand why we have to have those in unicode. What a 01F4A9 indeed. |
| 16:00.51 | Iridos | babilen, well... it _is_ a problem that one can't easily find the font one needs to display a certain unicode character |
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| 16:01.27 | Iridos | although I think in this specific case one could just as well do without |
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| 16:02.08 | afuentes | babilen, not as much as a problem as something that itches my curiosity |
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| 16:02.57 | Iridos | afuentes, we discussed that at some length some months ago... and really there seems no simple way to find that |
| 16:03.00 | Iridos | dpkg, fonts |
| 16:03.00 | dpkg | Fonts available as Debian packages are automatically configured for use via <defoma>. To add user-supplied fonts to a Debian system, ask me about <install font> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts . For general font information, see http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ . See also <mscorefonts>, <ttf>. |
| 16:03.11 | Iridos | there's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters |
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| 16:03.33 | babilen | Iridos: And http://unicode.org/charts/ |
| 16:04.13 | Iridos | well, actually https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unicode/Character_reference/1F000-1FFFF |
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| 16:04.20 | Famic | hi |
| 16:04.44 | Famic | is there an easy way to get notified by email when something critical appears in the logs ? |
| 16:05.27 | Iridos | ha... and even my browser doesn't show the ones in the 1F100-1F250 range... thought by now I had every conceivable font installed |
| 16:05.31 | babilen | Famic: Investigate logwatch or monitoring solutions such as icinga, nagios, ... |
| 16:05.42 | Iridos | 🎶 |
| 16:07.00 | afuentes | Iridos, im so jealous, i cant see them |
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| 16:08.01 | CalimeroTeknik | hello |
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| 16:08.11 | CalimeroTeknik | locale-gen doesn't generate the locales, it says up to date |
| 16:08.11 | Iridos | afuentes, I ended up just installing pretty much every font available in debian... :P |
| 16:08.25 | CalimeroTeknik | I would like it to generate them, if possible |
| 16:08.32 | sander__ | Why do I get: Err http://ftp.no.debian.org lenny/main emacs22 22.2+2-5... 404 Not Found |
| 16:08.53 | afuentes | iridos, it seems a good enough approach... so what about a metapackage all-unicode-fonts? :D |
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| 16:10.10 | sander__ | ..that's when I try to install emacs on lenny. |
| 16:10.30 | floh` | sander__: isn't lenny end-of-life? |
| 16:10.39 | babilen | sander__: Lenny has been EOLed -- You should really upgrade to squeeze *NOW* |
| 16:10.40 | Iridos | afuentes, there's freaking many... lots of chinese, arabic, japanese and really-weird-stuff ones |
| 16:10.44 | babilen | !tell sander__ -about lenny |
| 16:10.49 | jargon- | Iridos: i think it depends on whether or not you have APT::Install-Suggests="true" in your /etc/apt.conf |
| 16:11.04 | babilen | sander__: You had more than a year for that upgrade -- Do it *now* as there is no support for it whatsoever. |
| 16:11.30 | jargon- | going home. see you guys tomorrow |
| 16:11.58 | sander__ | babilen, I'm not sure If I dare to do it.. I don't have physical access to the machine. |
| 16:12.09 | floh` | sander__: has this machine a LVM? |
| 16:12.18 | babilen | sander__: Well, it has been EOLed and moved to the archive. |
| 16:12.19 | CalimeroTeknik | also, why doesn't locale-gen generate *only* the locales I left in /etc/locale.gen? |
| 16:12.28 | babilen | !tell sander__ -about release notes |
| 16:12.52 | Iridos | jargon-, I even have APT::Install-Recommends "no"; ... perhaps it's something else and aptitude why <something> just picks up on the suggests to make up some bogus reason |
| 16:12.52 | floh` | if so, create a snapshot, set it up so that you can boot the snapshot in case of emergency |
| 16:12.52 | CalimeroTeknik | it generates 15 locales, not only mine |
| 16:12.52 | babilen | dpkg: tell sander__ -about lenny->squeeze |
| 16:12.52 | floh` | update anyway |
| 16:12.52 | floh` | and my lenny->squeeze upgrade went pretty smooth |
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| 16:13.07 | floh` | i definitely would have had no problems with networking and ssh |
| 16:13.21 | babilen | sander__: Make sure you have backups and access to a recovery console. Follow the release notes and upgrade now. We do not support it any longer and it has been moved to the archives. (i.e. you have to adjust your sources.list) |
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| 16:13.45 | Iridos | jargon-, http://paste.debian.net/163419/ <--- that is my fc-list |
| 16:13.52 | sander__ | babilen, what is the archive sources.list url? |
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| 16:14.16 | babilen | sander__: Read the private message from dpkg -- But really: *YOU HAVE TO UPGRADE* |
| 16:14.34 | sander__ | floe_, This machine is running lvm, yes. |
| 16:14.41 | sander__ | floh`, |
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| 16:14.58 | floh` | sander__: good. |
| 16:15.06 | floh` | well, maybe also not. |
| 16:15.21 | floh` | sander__: if your volume group has some space left, you could create a LVM snapshot |
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| 16:15.48 | floh` | then you'd have a hopefully-working squeeze and then still a working lenny (which can be discarded afterwards) |
| 16:15.58 | floh` | afk now. |
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| 16:19.30 | bitHipy_ | are non-free packages ever installed automatically when doing a netinst from scratch? E.g., when the only driver for a hardware device is non-free? |
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| 16:20.38 | jordanm | bitHipy_: no |
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| 16:20.44 | jordanm | !usb firmware |
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| 16:21.45 | jordanm | !installer firmware |
| 16:21.46 | dpkg | Debian-Installer since Lenny is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04 and http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/add-firmware-to . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. http://deb.li/3tGse |
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| 16:23.09 | bitHipy_ | thanks jordanm.. i was just trying to determine whether to report a bug (my thinkpads wifi nic driver was not installed automatically) |
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| 16:23.18 | bitHipy_ | guess it's not a "bug" |
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| 16:43.35 | muhoo | it's been years since i set up any clustering/mirroring for apache. it was LVS or mod_proxy or squid back then. what's the most current way to do it nowadays? |
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| 16:54.58 | grobda24 | Hello. Where are the sources.list lines for non-free and multimedia documented in the manual or wiki ? I've tried searching for this but can't find a reliable source for the actual "deb URL distro main" lines. |
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| 16:55.34 | somiaj | !non-free |
| 16:55.35 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 16:55.44 | jordanm | grobda24: "man sources.list" |
| 16:55.47 | somiaj | !tell grobda24 -about non-free sources |
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| 16:56.14 | somiaj | grobda24: as for multimedia that is another source that isn't related to non-free -- it is more unoffical but created by debian devs. |
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| 16:57.17 | grobda24 | Jord |
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| 16:57.59 | grobda24 | jordanm, somiaj, thanks. but I still can't find the URL for those repositories |
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| 16:58.15 | somiaj | did you read that factoid I sent you, non-free do not have a special url |
| 16:58.43 | grobda24 | oh, right sorry. misunderstood it ... I just add something to the end |
| 16:58.51 | somiaj | for the unoffical multimedia packages, check 'debian-multimedia.org' for instructions |
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| 16:59.45 | grobda24 | somiaj, nice one ! having some difficulties this end (rl) |
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| 17:21.34 | jubo2 | Shukran, shukran debian devels. |
| 17:21.57 | Iridos | afue... |
| 17:22.05 | Iridos | oh well... he wanted wasy or webdings, I guess |
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| 17:25.23 | Han | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:26.08 | jelly-home | Han: that channel is on irc.debian.org, a different irc network |
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| 17:26.24 | Han | ah, that figures, thanks jelly-home |
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| 17:33.06 | sander__ | What's the sources.list's old stable line for lenny? |
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| 17:34.31 | jelly-home | sander__: /msg dpkg lenny sources.list |
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| 17:35.02 | rombo | hi I tried to compile a kernel with make-kpkg and got this error, but I do not know, what it means: http://pastebin.com/D9PSYwFE |
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| 17:35.31 | jubo2 | I have problem.. |
| 17:35.48 | sander__ | jelly-home, thanks. |
| 17:35.49 | jubo2 | I use Debian Squeeze and the standard KDE it came with.. |
| 17:37.11 | jubo2 | I have managed to install Synaptiks ( a touch pad driver / configuration thingy ) but it says on start-up something like "Cannot run Synaptiks, either driver not installed ( and it is installed ) or not new enough" |
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| 17:37.38 | somiaj | rombo: what command did you run? And did you run this as a normal user? |
| 17:38.00 | jubo2 | This touchpad with no anti-accidental tap or cursor moves and no configuration for the acceleration and such.. |
| 17:38.16 | jubo2 | this.. |
| 17:38.23 | jubo2 | .. is driving me crazy |
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| 17:38.49 | jubo2 | and where is the scroll with two fingers, why is that not on by default..? |
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| 17:39.25 | rombo | somiaj I did: root@flicka:/mnt/comp# make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image |
| 17:39.51 | jubo2 | why there is no way to turn sane tap/non-tap threshold algorithms..? Any modern OS should have these.. |
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| 17:40.19 | rombo | somiaj it did not work using fakeroot either |
| 17:41.08 | jubo2 | Any commercial modern OS has 'em so why cannot has on Debian GNU/Linux ? |
| 17:42.21 | somiaj | rombo: ok because to me it looks like you need fakeroot, so make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --revision=1.0.custom kernel_image |
| 17:42.45 | somiaj | rombo: also make sure you make the revision as I showd it, the new debian package tools complain if you don't have a number as the first part of the revision |
| 17:42.59 | rombo | rombo I will do that |
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| 17:44.50 | somiaj | rombo: I don't read your nataive language so I can't figure out the exact error, these are all just guesses. (: |
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| 17:46.25 | rombo | somiaj I already thought that might be a problem, but dont know how to switch to english |
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| 17:47.34 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 17:47.49 | somiaj | rombo: me either, there is a #debian-de on irc.oftc.net -- but hopefully I figured out your issue for you. |
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| 17:47.58 | johnfg | I'm using network manager on this laptop running squeeze. |
| 17:48.37 | johnfg | I note that when I login through tty1, but am not logged on through gdm, that networking isn't started. |
| 17:49.27 | rombo | somiaj tried that first, but I didnt get an answer, so I tried here, I hope it works too |
| 17:49.27 | johnfg | I did /etc/init.d/networking start, got no errors, but wlan0 still didn't show up as being active. |
| 17:49.49 | Hans_Henrik | messed up my mysql-server really bad. (denies connections from everyone, including localhost ) ; i tried to re-install it. apt-get remove --purge mysql-server* ; apt-get install mysql-server ; despite apt-get remove --purge mysql-server* some of the old settings seem to have survived x.x i still get mysql -u root -p Enter password: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using pas |
| 17:49.55 | Hans_Henrik | any idea how i can fix it? x. |
| 17:50.08 | somiaj | johnfg: that is because all of the settings for network manager are saved for the user |
| 17:50.12 | kevlarman | johnfg: you'll need a network mangler client to get it to actually connect |
| 17:50.27 | somiaj | johnfg: so it won't bring up the network based on those settings until your user runs the client to tell it what to do (which happens when you log into gnome) |
| 17:50.29 | johnfg | kevlarman, Like what client? |
| 17:50.34 | kevlarman | normally that's the network mangler applet |
| 17:50.43 | kevlarman | but since you aren't logging in that isn't being started |
| 17:50.52 | somiaj | I don't think network-manager has a cli client so you really can't use it in this case |
| 17:51.03 | kevlarman | somiaj: i thought it did |
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| 17:51.23 | johnfg | kevlarman, Yeah, this doesn't come up much, and on my other system I don't use network manager, but configure the network manually. |
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| 17:52.04 | johnfg | i.e., what doesn't come up (besides the network), is using the cli from a tty without being logged in through gdm. |
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| 17:52.22 | kevlarman | johnfg: google pointed me to this: http://code.google.com/p/network-manager-cli/source/browse/trunk/nm-cli.py |
| 17:52.34 | kevlarman | no clue how well or terribly it works though |
| 17:52.37 | johnfg | kevlarman, I'll check it out. Thanks! |
| 17:52.42 | somiaj | kevlarman: sure you aren't thnking about wicd? |
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| 17:53.10 | kevlarman | somiaj: i've always configured my network manually since that one time network mangler screwed me over |
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| 17:53.48 | somiaj | haha I have never used network manager, been using /etc/network/interfaces since 2000. |
| 17:53.48 | ChibaPet | nmcli is a cli nm client. |
| 17:54.03 | ChibaPet | It can't create or delete new interfaces, but it can interact with existing ones. |
| 17:54.21 | ChibaPet | That said, I've stopped using any of those, and I'm working out of /etc/network/interfaces, with a script to identify local access points. |
| 17:54.47 | somiaj | ChibaPet: is it part of debian, I am not finding that anywhere, and there is no clear cli package for network-manager. |
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| 17:55.41 | ChibaPet | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=nmcli&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 17:55.59 | ChibaPet | Which is to say, it comes with the network-manager package itself. |
| 17:56.13 | somiaj | ahh no wonder I never seen it, I just looked for a package. (: |
| 17:56.34 | ChibaPet | It's fairly limited and the syntax is awkward. |
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| 17:56.53 | ChibaPet | But it works if you need it. Easier to bite the bullet and set up the interfaces file. |
| 17:57.10 | ChibaPet | sudo ifup wlan0=whatever-stanza |
| 17:57.24 | ChibaPet | sudo iwconfig wlan0 scan to see what's out there |
| 17:58.12 | ChibaPet | (I wrap the latter to give me nice formatting and to only show me the things I really want to see.) |
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| 18:01.13 | thewanderer1 | what did I miss during make-kpkg if I don't get an "asm/types.h" in the kernel headers directory? |
| 18:01.24 | johnfg | kevlarman, I tried it out but it won't run. And I don't know python at all! |
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| 18:01.57 | johnfg | It just returns the error: SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xc2' in file nm-cli.py on line 9, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for detail |
| 18:02.18 | johnfg | I know you said you didn't know if it would work. |
| 18:02.47 | kevlarman | johnfg: i think you manged it while downloading |
| 18:03.37 | johnfg | I went to the view raw file and saved it. Nothing obvious shows up. |
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| 18:06.20 | kevlarman | johnfg: wget it or svn co it |
| 18:06.31 | kevlarman | johnfg: \xc2 is |
| 18:06.36 | somiaj | johnfg: did you notice ChibaPet comments, the nmcli is a command that is part of the network-manager package, 'man nwcli' |
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| 18:07.27 | garo | Is there something like 'host' (from dnsutils) that checks /etc/hosts first ? |
| 18:07.28 | johnfg | somiaj, No, I missed those, thanks. |
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| 18:07.50 | somiaj | arg man nmcli -- but I think you got it. (: |
| 18:08.14 | somiaj | garo: what is it you are trying to do? |
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| 18:09.14 | johnfg | Well thanks for the help. I've got nwcli, so will work with that and see if I can understand how it would work, like I was on a headless machine. |
| 18:09.59 | garo | i'm looking for a command line program that returns '128.31.0.51' if i do 'the_program debian.org' except if /etc/hosts contains '1.2.3.4 debian.org' |
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| 18:10.10 | somiaj | garo: I just use ping |
| 18:10.12 | garo | (in that case i want to see 1.2.3.4) |
| 18:10.26 | garo | would work, but not really clean... |
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| 18:10.50 | somiaj | or configure a local nameserver as opposed to using /etc/hosts for local nameserver definitions |
| 18:10.58 | karlpinc | garo: You want "getent hosts the_program.debian.org" That's what goes through the resolver. |
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| 18:11.14 | karlpinc | garo: So, it does whatever the resolver does, /etc/hosts first, or whatever. |
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| 18:12.34 | garo | i only get ipv6 addresses with getent |
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| 18:13.30 | karlpinc | garo: Then the resolver's returning ipv6. Try "getent hosts www.google.com". |
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| 18:14.32 | garo | ipv4 |
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| 18:15.02 | garo | but 'dig -t AAAA www.google.com' tells me that it doesn't have ipv6, so that's normal |
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| 18:15.17 | rombo | somiaj It worked ;-) thanks |
| 18:15.43 | somiaj | rombo: glad my guess worked. (: |
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| 18:16.31 | garo | but there will be no ipv6 on the system i want to use getent, so actually the problem is fixed. Thanks ! |
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| 18:18.30 | R0b_ | is anyone here good at regular expressions? I need to grep some text. The problem is the text can change in length. The text always follows 'vhost ' and proceeds ' /etc/' I have no idea how to grab the text in between those 2 sections. |
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| 18:21.53 | jordanm | R0b_: grep -Po '(?<=vhost\s).+(?=\s+/etc)' <file> |
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| 18:22.35 | jordanm | R0b_: it's really difficult in grep if 'vhost ' can have a variable number of spaces |
| 18:23.31 | jordanm | if it is, I would use perl |
| 18:23.35 | err404 | Hello I try to import ejabberd config to prosody but ejabberd2prosody seem not work --> http://paste.debian.net/163436/ |
| 18:25.12 | Dagger2 | `sed -re "s/.+vhost (.+) \/etc.+/\1/"` would work, and be easy enough to change to "vhost +" if needed |
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| 18:25.59 | Iridos | I wonder what it is you guys think he asked |
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| 18:27.34 | duplo_ | Hello, I'm looking for an email notifyer which makes somethink like a green or red mail symobl at my gnome bar. Has somebody a good hint for me? |
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| 18:28.38 | johnfg | Anyway to go back beyond the top of the screen in a tty cli session? |
| 18:29.07 | Riviera | johnfg: yes, if your terminal emulator has some sort of backlog |
| 18:29.35 | Riviera | johnfg: often Shift + PgUp works. |
| 18:30.24 | Riviera | johnfg: tools like screen and tmux offer that kind of backlog for terminals that do not natively support it. If you are only concerned about the output of a particular command, using a pager like less also helps: commands | less |
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| 18:31.24 | johnfg | Yeah, it doesn't appear screen, after I did a test with catting a file, will go back. But I only used pg up, not Shift + pg up. |
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| 18:32.23 | johnfg | Riviera, Aha, from screen the shift does allow it to work. |
| 18:32.29 | iz | johnfg: with screen, ctrl-a, esc, up arrow |
| 18:32.29 | johnfg | Good to know, thanks. |
| 18:32.43 | johnfg | iz, Tks. |
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| 18:41.39 | dvs | a111: Annoying... |
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| 18:41.58 | a111 | ? |
| 18:42.06 | dvs | a111: You're quit message |
| 18:42.13 | dvs | s/you're/your |
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| 18:43.46 | b44 | Any way to switch from debian stable to testing ? |
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| 18:44.11 | dvs | !iyhtays b44 |
| 18:44.12 | dpkg | b44: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
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| 18:46.53 | pickcoder | how stable is the ZFS support in Squeeze? |
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| 18:53.06 | engla | b44: same way you upgrade between stable release |
| 18:53.29 | dvs | engla: Upgrading between stable releases vary from version to version |
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| 18:54.01 | engla | well the basic idea is the same |
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| 19:01.12 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. Since I did a system update on Squeeze on 10 Apr, tinyproxy won't start, reporting "Could not allocate memory for child counting." |
| 19:01.17 | Pegasus_RPG | even though there's plenty of memory available |
| 19:01.32 | Pegasus_RPG | any ideas what I can do to get it working again? |
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| 19:04.54 | thewanderer1 | Pegasus_RPG: was it just an update from stable to stable? i.e. only updates from security repo? |
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| 19:06.02 | Pegasus_RPG | yes |
| 19:06.13 | Pegasus_RPG | oh, found the problem. Somehow the permissions on /tmp were set to 700 |
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| 19:06.31 | Pegasus_RPG | (SHould be 777 +t right?) |
| 19:06.36 | Pegasus_RPG | thewanderer1: ^ |
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| 19:09.13 | thewanderer1 | Pegasus_RPG: yeah, 1777 |
| 19:09.45 | thewanderer1 | although it's a funny error message in this case - I guess it qualifies as a minor bug to misreport error conditions |
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| 19:15.29 | DelphiWorld | hello folks |
| 19:15.47 | DelphiWorld | can i install the Linux Airlines into another PC remotely? this PC have Linux allready |
| 19:15.56 | DelphiWorld | airlines===Debian |
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| 19:18.00 | tremon | DelphiWorld: wan remote or lan remote? |
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| 19:18.33 | DelphiWorld | tremon: lan... due to my accessibility issue... blindness i can't read screen on the host computer |
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| 19:19.17 | thewanderer1 | DelphiWorld: it may be possible to install remotely, although it's easier to install on a hard drive and then move the drive to the target PC |
| 19:19.52 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: good idea, but to install on the hard drive, it's not dezirable for me :( |
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| 19:20.29 | thewanderer1 | DelphiWorld: you'd be installing on some hard drive anyway, no? |
| 19:20.58 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: yes, but my windows speak for me terminal, but if i boot debian cd and set it up, i couldn't read; got it ? |
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| 19:21.07 | thewanderer1 | yes |
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| 19:21.42 | tremon | DelphiWorld: it's possible, but not easy. One way I can think of is to use the debian-installer ssh mode, but that requires lots of preparation if you can't access the debian-installer menu |
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| 19:22.07 | DelphiWorld | tremon: true. i want to be able to just boot it up, and get dhcp |
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| 19:24.02 | DelphiWorld | i'm realy stuck, Trellmor, thewanderer1 :( |
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| 19:24.23 | DelphiWorld | tremon :( |
| 19:24.27 | DelphiWorld | soerty Trellmor |
| 19:24.31 | DelphiWorld | sory Trellmor |
| 19:25.17 | tremon | DelphiWorld: you can install the isc-dhcp-server and debian-installer packages, then use a preseed file to automatically load the network-console module. I don't think it's easy to load a preseed file if you boot from a cd |
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| 19:26.18 | DelphiWorld | tremon: i have a dhcp server, but the installer i don't have a clue at all |
| 19:27.54 | DelphiWorld | </me would just do sudo halt :( |
| 19:28.00 | DelphiWorld | would just do sudo halt :( |
| 19:29.42 | tremon | DelphiWorld: that's just half of it. You'd need to configure your dhcp server to allow network booting, and install a tftp server to server the installer files. I can provide you with my preseed file to get you started on the installer, but the server setup would be up to you. If this is just a one-off thing, it might be easier to just swap drives |
| 19:30.18 | tremon | i.e. connect the other hard drive to your own computer and use debootstrap on that |
| 19:30.21 | DelphiWorld | tremon: i can set up the server no issue; but also bios access is required ! |
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| 19:30.43 | tremon | ah... good catch. Yes, you'd need to setup network booting in the bios |
| 19:30.46 | tremon | that sucks |
| 19:31.05 | DelphiWorld | tremon: :) |
| 19:31.11 | DelphiWorld | tremon: that the way i wanted it on cd |
| 19:31.18 | DelphiWorld | i allready built a iso but no luck |
| 19:31.21 | thewanderer1 | shouldn't a machine boot off the network by default if it has no other media to boot from? |
| 19:31.41 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: not all bios do that |
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| 19:31.52 | DelphiWorld | some bios just say indser your boot media and press enter |
| 19:31.55 | tremon | thewanderer1: most motherboards ship with the bootrom disabled... |
| 19:32.11 | thewanderer1 | DelphiWorld: are you familiar with Debian enough that you could install it manually via fdisk, debootstrap and grub? |
| 19:32.29 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: dude... didn't want to lock myself out of it :P |
| 19:33.07 | thewanderer1 | building a live system that starts SSH by default and putting it on a pendrive might be easier than the netconsole thing |
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| 19:33.56 | thewanderer1 | but the subsequent installation - much harder :P |
| 19:33.57 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: DUDE. aguin, how do i read the output? |
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| 19:34.31 | thewanderer1 | DelphiWorld: if you ssh to it, you can read the output, right? |
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| 19:34.44 | DelphiWorld | yes, thewanderer1 |
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| 19:35.02 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: but, aguin, usb boot required; ship me your eyes to my address please ;) |
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| 19:36.04 | tremon | DelphiWorld: you'll have the same problem with netboot, I think. Can you currently access the target machine at all? |
| 19:36.15 | thewanderer1 | you can make live systems for CDs as well - just as you can prepare netconsole for CD |
| 19:36.18 | DelphiWorld | tremon: i can now |
| 19:36.30 | tremon | DelphiWorld: what's running on it? |
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| 19:36.36 | DelphiWorld | tremon: pm |
| 19:36.50 | DelphiWorld | tremon: a debian clone |
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| 19:37.01 | thewanderer1 | and you want to install Debian? |
| 19:37.12 | thewanderer1 | hmm, I'd probably use the already functional system to do that |
| 19:37.13 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1: yes |
| 19:37.23 | tremon | lol... that's (hopefully) not a problem then. Just install debootstrap |
| 19:37.28 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 19:37.33 | thewanderer1 | allocating disk space may be an issue |
| 19:38.13 | DelphiWorld | i think i would need to repartition? |
| 19:38.28 | thewanderer1 | you would have to get some space to install on, yes |
| 19:38.47 | thewanderer1 | but it would be extremely unwise to remove the current system and be left without access |
| 19:38.49 | DelphiWorld | sudo halt. |
| 19:38.50 | DelphiWorld | end! |
| 19:39.33 | thewanderer1 | what's your current partition configuration? maybe you can resize the current FS / partitions and make way for Debian |
| 19:40.31 | DelphiWorld | thewanderer1i'm afraid to kill it; i may just wait for someone to come to my home and read out for me |
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| 19:40.56 | thewanderer1 | DelphiWorld: well, resizing should be mostly safe |
| 19:41.00 | tremon | DelphiWorld: do you have a separation partition for /home? can you backup/discard it? Then use that partition to install debian on, if you use lvm you will be able to live-migrate the data to another partition later on |
| 19:41.19 | thewanderer1 | or resize an existing partition |
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| 19:42.01 | tremon | yes, resize works too. (possible) problem is you need a reboot to load the altered partition table |
| 19:42.01 | DelphiWorld | right, but boot also is dangerous for me... i may kill grub |
| 19:42.22 | thewanderer1 | using the already existing GRUB is clearly the solution here |
| 19:43.10 | thewanderer1 | i.e. not rewriting the MBR code for GRUB |
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| 19:45.19 | zmitya | hi Gents |
| 19:45.43 | zmitya | I'm a newbie to LXC, this would be my first container, but during the creation I got this: |
| 19:45.48 | zmitya | http://pastebin.com/pwYhQagb |
| 19:46.10 | zmitya | however my /var is mounted with nodev option |
| 19:46.24 | zmitya | how can I solve this without remounting /var ? |
| 19:47.02 | thewanderer1 | zmitya: how about using some other directory than /var? :P |
| 19:47.24 | zmitya | thewanderer1: well, I did not choose that dir... |
| 19:47.32 | zmitya | it does it by default |
| 19:48.41 | thewanderer1 | zmitya: use some command line option to build in another directory, then. or if it doesn't exist, build manually instead of using lxc-create |
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| 19:49.54 | zmitya | thewanderer1: ok, I'll look for how to do it manually, because I could not find a way with lxc-create |
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| 19:50.52 | thewanderer1 | zmitya: isn't lxc-create just a script? even if not, it's free software, which means it's hackable :P |
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| 19:51.17 | tremon | symlinks might work too... |
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| 19:51.31 | thewanderer1 | true dat |
| 19:51.34 | zmitya | thewanderer1: sure, everything is possible I just wanted to do it in the "debian way" :) |
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| 19:52.00 | tremon | zmitya: the debian way is not mounting /var nodev if it interferes with your packages :) |
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| 19:52.30 | zmitya | tremon: well, thats true :) |
| 19:52.47 | thewanderer1 | actually, I always build stuff like that in /srv/lxc - no idea why they insist on /var |
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| 19:53.14 | tremon | doesn't know anything about lxc |
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| 19:53.18 | incog | gnome3 is horrible, discuss |
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| 19:53.30 | valdyn | incog: no, thats offtopic |
| 19:54.00 | incog | i switched to testing |
| 19:54.00 | thewanderer1 | besides, we're not into doing liberal arts homework here :P |
| 19:54.07 | incog | and my computer turned into a tablet |
| 19:54.10 | incog | it is vile |
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| 19:54.43 | angerman | what do I need to do if I want to install a cronjob? $ crontab -e .. and what else? |
| 19:54.45 | thewanderer1 | oh well, he should have been offered an RFP offer first |
| 19:55.04 | thewanderer1 | angerman: once you add it, it's there. |
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| 19:55.40 | angerman | hmm ... |
| 19:56.37 | angerman | thewanderer1: is there some log, where I can see if cron tried to run that job? |
| 19:57.00 | valdyn | angerman: the log of cron is mail |
| 19:57.00 | DelphiWorld | thank you thewanderer1, tremon; while fight it |
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| 19:58.53 | angerman | valdyn: ? where does STDOUT go? |
| 19:58.57 | thewanderer1 | also, /var/log/daemon.log, no? |
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| 19:59.32 | valdyn | angerman: it is mailed to root by default |
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| 20:01.46 | thewanderer1 | how do I add a quote to dpkgbot? |
| 20:02.20 | daemonkeeper | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.45 | angerman | valdyn: ahh. found it. thanks! |
| 20:02.58 | thewanderer1 | daemon: okay. now what? :P |
| 20:03.05 | thewanderer1 | oops. daemonkeeper. |
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| 20:03.18 | daemonkeeper | Did you do that? |
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| 20:03.32 | thewanderer1 | daemonkeeper: I actually did. I hope it wasn't a trap. |
| 20:03.41 | daemonkeeper | !thewanderer1 |
| 20:03.42 | dpkg | methinks thewanderer1 is capable to use the bot |
| 20:03.51 | daemonkeeper | Congratulations you managed to use the bot :p |
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| 20:04.09 | thewanderer1 | aha. so do I just go "qotd667 is greater than all evil"? |
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| 20:04.26 | daemonkeeper | Yes. <key> is <explanation> |
| 20:04.31 | daemonkeeper | dpkg: forget thewanderer1 |
| 20:04.32 | dpkg | daemonkeeper: i didn't have anything called 'thewanderer1' to forget |
| 20:04.47 | thewanderer1 | daemonkeeper: I remembered how to forget :P |
| 20:05.12 | thewanderer1 | but will it keep contigious qotd's? I mean, the array would fragment, no? |
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| 20:05.40 | daemonkeeper | You want alternatives? |
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| 20:06.08 | xfire78xx | sera |
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| 20:07.27 | thewanderer1 | well, I did add a qotd667, now do I include it in the cycle somehow? it's kludgy :P |
| 20:08.20 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: You want a || b |
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| 20:09.36 | Escherial | hello; so, i'm kind of stuck...pretty sure i've messed up my python installation and i don't know how to go back from here |
| 20:10.39 | Escherial | this is my /etc/apt/sources.list as of now: http://dpaste.org/anNaV/ |
| 20:11.06 | Escherial | i'd like to have python 2.7 installed, working alongside the existing versions of 2.6 and 2.5 |
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| 20:11.30 | Escherial | i'm pretty sure that my whole system's in an unregenerate state, contemplating wiping it and reinstalling |
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| 20:23.04 | cads | hey, I've been having problems with my network connection going stale. |
| 20:23.43 | cads | I'm on a laptop running debian squeeze, with an atheros wireless adaptor, using the ath9k driver. From time to time my network stops responding, pings to my gateway result in Host Unreachable. |
| 20:24.00 | cads | Rebooting fixes the problem temporarily. |
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| 20:25.49 | cads | disabling and enabling the network from the gnome panel network manager applet fixed the problem just now |
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| 20:26.18 | cads | The OS is a fresh install |
| 20:27.42 | cads | I'd like to throw some more competent diagnosis strategy at this, can someone suggest a relevant bit of documentation? |
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| 20:35.44 | Bronze | hi, need a direction here - just instakked a debian based distro, and noticed i have some weird defaults in the version of mutt that was installed. Then notice4d that the version of mutt installed is namned "debian specific" is there a place I can look to see what is in debian specific mutt that is different from the normal mutt ? |
| 20:35.54 | Bronze | *instakked - typo |
| 20:35.58 | Bronze | *installed |
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| 20:38.14 | peterrooney | Bronze: theyes' no way we could know unless we knew enough about your distro to answer questions in its channel. |
| 20:38.20 | peterrooney | !based on debian |
| 20:38.20 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 20:38.46 | peterrooney | s/theyes'/there's/ |
| 20:39.13 | Bronze | peterrooney: I see. So the package title "debian-specific" doesn't actually mean debian-specific? |
| 20:39.16 | jelly-home | Bronze: package sources provide all the parts a deb-based distro uses to build a package, including any functionality or config changes. Downloading them may be distro-dependent. |
| 20:39.25 | peterrooney | Bronze: as a starter, you could probably download the source (apt-src install mutt) and compare to upstream sources |
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| 20:39.41 | jelly-home | fuck is apt-src? |
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| 20:39.56 | Bronze | upstream means debian in this case? (distro installed is ubuntu 12.04) |
| 20:40.14 | jelly-home | Bronze: no, upstream means mutt authors. |
| 20:40.35 | Bronze | jelly-home: ah, thank you. |
| 20:40.45 | macsim | hi I can't found emerald in debian sid, google dig 2010 posts about this, I must install it from sources ? thanks |
| 20:41.00 | Bronze | jelly-home: i also ask what is apt-src? :-) |
| 20:41.14 | jelly-home | Bronze: I have no idea. |
| 20:41.27 | schipiura | I was reading the last issue of DPN and i found that may country is not represented in the local lists about events |
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| 20:41.52 | schipiura | There's one for almost every one, but for Brazil. |
| 20:41.57 | Bronze | jelly-home: aha - "apt-get source" may be what was meant |
| 20:42.04 | jelly-home | Bronze: in Debian, you'd use apt-get source packagename for... right |
| 20:42.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, apt-cache show apt-src? :D |
| 20:42.30 | peterrooney | jelly-home: you're kidding. I can't imagine a world where I know something you don't. |
| 20:42.40 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: can't be arsed to |
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| 20:42.50 | Bronze | peterrooney: is there an actual apt-src command? |
| 20:42.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | arses jelly-home until he does |
| 20:42.56 | joltcan | schipiura: Maybe you could contribute to the news? http://wiki.debian.org/ProjectNews/HowToContribute |
| 20:43.00 | schipiura | Brazil is not Hispanic. |
| 20:43.03 | jelly-home | ,info apt-src |
| 20:43.05 | judd | Package apt-src (admin, optional) in squeeze/i386: manage Debian source packages. Version: 0.25.1-0.1; Size: 35.5k; Installed: 76k |
| 20:43.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... you're missing out. It sounds like something I was missing in debian since 2001 |
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| 20:43.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | why'd my nick change |
| 20:43.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | again |
| 20:43.40 | schipiura | I will contribute, yes |
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| 20:45.49 | peterrooney | Bronze: yes, there is, the main point being that there's any number of ways to get the source for a debian package, and the upstream source. There aren't many packages for which debian is itself the upstream source. |
| 20:46.32 | Iridos | ... and we all know what happens when someone pisses into the water upstream of you |
| 20:46.51 | Bronze | peterrooney: ah, ok. so this mutt "debian-specific" is one of those rare cases where debian rolled its own special version. |
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| 20:49.05 | Iridos | Bronze, no.. it's usual that debian maintainers add patches for security/bugfixes. And then I guess packages go from sid to ubuntu and they add their patches and stuff... but you'd have to ask them about that |
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| 20:49.33 | jelly-home | Bronze: Debian rolls its own special version of everything in the distro, except the software that originates in Debian. |
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| 20:50.13 | Bronze | so the "debian-specific" label doesn't really imply any special customization then? |
| 20:50.21 | jelly-home | it depends. |
| 20:50.27 | Bronze | heh. |
| 20:50.58 | Bronze | get out a bottle of those "special" mellowing pills .... |
| 20:51.06 | Bronze | :_D |
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| 20:52.30 | jelly-home | ,info mutt |
| 20:52.31 | judd | Package mutt (mail, standard) in squeeze/i386: text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, PGP and threading. Version: 1.5.20-9+squeeze2; Size: 1985.0k; Installed: 5916k; Homepage: http://www.mutt.org/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/mutt |
| 20:52.34 | jelly-home | ,info mutt-patched |
| 20:52.35 | judd | Package mutt-patched (mail, extra) in squeeze/i386: the Mutt Mail User Agent with extra patches. Version: 1.5.20-9+squeeze2; Size: 381.1k; Installed: 856k; Homepage: http://www.mutt.org/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/mutt-patched |
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| 20:53.24 | piklu | hi Guys |
| 20:53.44 | piklu | I installed debian into a VPS box, now I need it to consume less memory, its already consuming 256 MB, any help ? |
| 20:53.49 | Bronze | hmm, Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15) |
| 20:53.50 | Bronze | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.52 | piklu | services that are of no use and can be turned off. |
| 20:55.28 | Bronze | piklu: I'm afraid that is going to be dependent on what you use your system for, so you will have to poke around and do a little reading |
| 20:56.02 | Bronze | peterrooney: , jelly-home Et al - thanks! |
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| 21:01.30 | pom | I upgraded from lenny to testing. Kernel 3.2 will not boot now. There is a long message about it, but I think the significant part is: ~"Kernel panic - not syncing: VGS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 21:01.34 | pom | " |
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| 21:02.56 | jelly-home | Bronze: figure out the package name, and get source for that. |
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| 21:03.26 | GapSpark | hello fuckers! |
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| 21:04.13 | Bronze | jelly-home: ja, on it. :) |
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| 21:06.39 | tremon | pom: not using uuids? |
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| 21:08.03 | pom | tremon: I think it updated that for me during the upgrade. |
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| 21:08.15 | pom | I am using mdraid, might be worht noting. |
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| 21:09.45 | tremon | pom: double-check that the root= argument is correct (if you're using mdraid, it should be). The kernel panic suggests that you're not using an initramfs? |
| 21:09.47 | GTRsdk | How do I have APT not want to remove nearly my whole system with autoremove? |
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| 21:09.55 | meisth0th | hello |
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| 21:10.19 | squeezembr | i am using puppy linux LIVE CD and want to restore grub2 to the MBR so i can boot Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze which is installed on my hard drive. My root partition is /dev/sda1. How can i go about it? |
| 21:10.37 | pom | tremon: I'm no exactly sure what initramfs is. It's menu.lst I'm supposed to dig in? |
| 21:10.52 | GapSpark | squeezembr you need to check the mbr 1st |
| 21:10.55 | meisth0th | i am trying to set a spam filter for my mail server using amavisd-new follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixAmavisNew |
| 21:11.11 | peterrooney | GTRsdk: deborphan might help. What is being removed that you think shouldn't be removed? |
| 21:11.13 | piklu | Bronze : webserver |
| 21:11.14 | squeezembr | GapSpark: what do you mean? |
| 21:11.31 | tremon | yes, check if there's an initrd line next to (below) your kernel |
| 21:11.35 | GapSpark | squeezembr type dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/* bs=999999 count=9999999 will test it |
| 21:11.44 | kunwon1 | don't do that squeezembr |
| 21:11.54 | kunwon1 | GapSpark is a malicious troll |
| 21:12.01 | meisth0th | as i understand by default debian configuration amavis stores spam mails in /var/lib/amavis/virusmails/ i want to change this behavior, i want them to be kept delivered to the recipient but with a changed subject |
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| 21:12.07 | GapSpark | no i am helping him |
| 21:12.26 | tremon | iirc, squeeze's md modules are not compiled in so you really need the initramfs |
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| 21:12.31 | piklu | Give me a short simple command to turn firewall / iptables in 1 line |
| 21:12.57 | Iridos | !ops GapSpark needs an exit |
| 21:12.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: iridos complains about: GapSpark needs an exit |
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| 21:13.16 | pom | Hmm, I just performed an aptitude full-upgrade, previously had only run safe-upgrade. This updated grub to grub2. I'm just gonna try rebooting again before i start fiddling. |
| 21:13.26 | karlpinc | !tell squeezembr about fixmbr |
| 21:13.41 | GTRsdk | peterrooney: http://pastebin.com/vGSJyUiF |
| 21:13.42 | tremon | pom: before you reboot, make sure you have /boot/initrd* files |
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| 21:14.00 | GapSpark | !ops iridos is a cunt |
| 21:14.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: gapspark complains about: iridos is a cunt |
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| 21:14.30 | GapSpark | !ops cunt is a cunt |
| 21:14.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: gapspark complains about: cunt is a cunt |
| 21:14.32 | Boohbah | GapSpark: that's not nice |
| 21:14.44 | karlpinc | Boohbah: Don't feed the troll. |
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| 21:14.52 | Iridos | just ignore him... the situation will be resolved momentarily |
| 21:15.29 | GapSpark | !ops abcdefghijklmnop1233212132132132121312312dsfsdafdsfdsafdsafdsfds broke the rules |
| 21:15.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: gapspark complains about: abcdefghijklmnop1233212132132132121312312dsfsdafdsfdsafdsafdsfds broke the rules |
| 21:15.32 | pom | tremon: It booted! |
| 21:15.45 | GapSpark | !ops abcdefghijklmnop1233212132132132121312312dsfsdafdsfdsafdsafdsdsfkjsd;flksdafjksa;df;ldsakf;lasdfdsjkfldskffds broke the rules |
| 21:15.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: gapspark complains about: abcdefghijklmnop1233212132132132121312312dsfsdafdsfdsafdsafdsdsfkjsd;flksdafjksa;df;ldsakf;lasdfdsjkfldskffds broke the rules |
| 21:15.47 | pom | Everything looks fine now. Not sure what was wrong, but probably the partial upgrade. |
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| 21:16.45 | Iridos | !next |
| 21:16.46 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 21:17.06 | NightRipper | wtf some guy just got me to format my harddrive, what do I do now, HELP!!! |
| 21:17.09 | streuner | Iridos: thats a special humor :-) |
| 21:17.33 | NightRipper | omg the guys name was gaspark or something HELP |
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| 21:18.24 | GTRsdk | Nightmare: well what do you want us to do? |
| 21:18.36 | squeezembr | my root partition is /dev/sda1 and it is not ext2 but ext4. shall i mount it as ext2 instead of ext4? |
| 21:19.01 | karlpinc | squeezembr: In order to chroot and fix the mbr? |
| 21:19.07 | squeezembr | yes |
| 21:19.31 | kevlarman | squeezembr: strictly speaking ext4 can't be mounted as ext2 if it has the fancy options enabled |
| 21:19.35 | karlpinc | squeezembr: You could _try_, but I don't think ext4 is bacwards compatible like that. |
| 21:19.54 | kevlarman | squeezembr: however all 3 are mounted by the ext4 driver on modern linux |
| 21:20.39 | squeezembr | i am confused, shall i mount my ext4 root partition as ext4 or as ext2 to fix grub2 and mbr problem |
| 21:20.44 | karlpinc | squeezembr: You might need a live cd (or whatever) that has ext4 support. On the other hand, you could contact the puppy people to see what they do to put grub2 into the mbr. (A debian-live cd might be easiest.) |
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| 21:21.08 | karlpinc | squeezembr: If it will mount as ext2, then you'd probably be ok. But it probably won't mount. |
| 21:21.44 | squeezembr | puppy linux has ext4 support |
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| 21:22.05 | karlpinc | squeezembr: Well, if it's ext4 then mount it as ext4. |
| 21:22.06 | kevlarman | squeezembr: then why not just mount it as ext4 |
| 21:22.11 | piklu | Can somebody tell me one simple command to turn firewall off !!!!!!! plz |
| 21:22.57 | tremon | piklu: what makes you think it's on? |
| 21:23.12 | karlpinc | piklu: iptables --flush But do you really want to if you can't put it back? |
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| 21:23.16 | Iridos | and why are there so many exclamation marks in that line |
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| 21:23.56 | GTRsdk | peterrooney: Do I just run deborphan <packages> ? |
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| 21:24.05 | tremon | my guess is he enjoys beverages from plzen |
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| 21:25.49 | Iridos | dpkg, !!!!!! |
| 21:25.50 | dpkg | i guess !!!!! is "And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five? A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head." -- Terry Pratchett, Maskerade |
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| 21:26.43 | Iridos | streuner, he asked for it and got exactly what he asked for. That's what we call "customer satisfaction" ;) |
| 21:27.57 | karlpinc | I see the problem squeezembr had, the <fixmbr> factoid says to mount as ext2.... It's not clear to me why. Oh well. |
| 21:28.06 | piklu | tremon : I think its ON because my nodejs app is not visible from servers outside or anywhere, but the 80 port is open definitely |
| 21:28.38 | piklu | karlpinc - just wanna stop it temporarily |
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| 21:29.33 | Iridos | piklu, there is by default no firewall configured on Debian. If rules are configured on this machine, you or someone else must have configured them. |
| 21:30.03 | piklu | Iridos - I dnt think so I configured a iptable rule |
| 21:30.06 | piklu | how to check? |
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| 21:31.07 | Iridos | run iptables-save |
| 21:31.39 | piklu | *filter |
| 21:31.40 | piklu | :INPUT ACCEPT [52:4584] |
| 21:31.40 | piklu | :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] |
| 21:31.40 | piklu | :OUTPUT ACCEPT [30:2984] |
| 21:31.40 | piklu | COMMIT |
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| 21:31.43 | Iridos | should just have some .... |
| 21:31.46 | Iridos | !next |
| 21:31.46 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 21:31.50 | dvs | heh |
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| 21:31.51 | GTRsdk | yay :) |
| 21:31.55 | piklu | sorry guys |
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| 21:31.58 | dvs | Iridos: YOu beat me to it |
| 21:31.59 | piklu | that was instant though |
| 21:32.06 | nsadmin | well, happy wouldn't be the adjective I'd use |
| 21:32.10 | Iridos | as I was going to say... |
| 21:32.28 | Iridos | should just have some ....comments (#) and policies (:) lines |
| 21:32.36 | piklu | Okay since its already done, so shall I insert a accept for 80 there?/ |
| 21:32.39 | nsadmin | piklu, so, aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl |
| 21:32.52 | piklu | ?? why that for ? |
| 21:33.06 | nsadmin | because it's a good way to do pastebins |
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| 21:33.35 | piklu | hmmm, Iptables not configured. |
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| 21:33.52 | nsadmin | what do you mean? |
| 21:33.57 | piklu | nsadmin, I ll take care manually, jst dnt wanna use anything on this VPS that ll gain more space/memory |
| 21:34.03 | Iridos | piklu, so yes... that's what an empty iptables configuration looks like... |
| 21:34.23 | piklu | Iridos: so why am not accessible from outside ) |
| 21:34.25 | piklu | :) |
| 21:34.49 | GTRsdk | piklu: is it for a web page or something? |
| 21:34.55 | nsadmin | piklu, it's not that much space... are you IRCing from that machine? |
| 21:35.01 | piklu | nodejs application |
| 21:35.11 | piklu | nsadmin : No, its diff machine |
| 21:35.21 | piklu | nsadmin : poor windows user :) |
| 21:35.34 | piklu | nsadmin : ( but i like it he he ) |
| 21:35.56 | Iridos | only _after_ they gave all their money for a new version of windows... |
| 21:36.03 | Iridos | plus their soul |
| 21:36.15 | nsadmin | anyway, you have a way to install a char stream pastebin prog |
| 21:37.05 | piklu | Iridos - yeah |
| 21:37.08 | piklu | back to topics |
| 21:37.13 | piklu | so thats my problem |
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| 21:37.27 | piklu | the nodejs app ( if u dnt know nodejs ask me now ) - isnt visible from outside |
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| 21:37.33 | GTRsdk | what is it? |
| 21:37.52 | nsadmin | it is something spelld i-t |
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| 21:38.12 | nsadmin | seriously, I want to know too |
| 21:38.14 | piklu | thanks for asking - I am beginner at it - It is a non blocking IO webserver, you can make amazing stuff in it scalable upto defeating most of the real time processing webstuffs |
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| 21:38.22 | squeezembr | i got an error when executing update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda : bash: update-grub: command not found |
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| 21:38.33 | Iridos | it? Like the Stephen King novel? |
| 21:38.40 | piklu | Thankful to quote it - http://nodejs.org/ |
| 21:38.57 | tremon | squeezembr: as root? |
| 21:39.02 | GTRsdk | piklu: So does that run a httpd like apache so files can be accessed on port 80? |
| 21:39.08 | nsadmin | ok, "turn firewall off", did you fix that part? |
| 21:39.25 | squeezembr | yes as root |
| 21:39.31 | piklu | GTRsdk : no, it lets u code your application/webcontent as server itsself |
| 21:39.45 | alnr | when i install kernel header package, the root of the installed folder does not contain a ./sources ./build folder (which eg virtualbox install wants). how do those 2 folders get there, in general |
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| 21:39.58 | piklu | GTRsdk : and yes it runs as a daemon on whatever port you configure it to run |
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| 21:40.11 | nsadmin | piklu, so, did you accomplish "turn firewall off"? |
| 21:40.23 | Iridos | so what port did you configure it on |
| 21:40.40 | piklu | nsadmin: if Iptables is the only firewall, than it is friends for now. |
| 21:40.46 | piklu | 80 |
| 21:41.09 | Iridos | and there wasn't already a webserver running? |
| 21:41.12 | squeezembr | so what dpkg said seems not to apply to my situation! |
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| 21:41.34 | piklu | Iridos : definitely no, since i did not install one |
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| 21:42.45 | piklu | netstat -L lists all the active open ports - how to check what process listens there, any idea? |
| 21:42.48 | squeezembr | what can i do??? |
| 21:43.20 | Iridos | piklu, so what does that say: netstat -pan |grep ':80[^0-9].*LISTEN' |
| 21:43.21 | GTRsdk | squeezembr: Is the drive encrypted? |
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| 21:43.32 | squeezembr | NO, the drive is not encrypted |
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| 21:44.01 | piklu | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3311/node |
| 21:44.14 | piklu | that is node running listening at 80 port |
| 21:44.15 | tremon | squeezembr: well, for one, make sure /usr/sbin/update-grub exists |
| 21:44.49 | GTRsdk | squeezembr: I think you'd have to enter the FS like in a chroot-ish way |
| 21:45.06 | piklu | oh wait. |
| 21:45.15 | piklu | I think its listening only to localhost connections |
| 21:45.19 | piklu | I need to change the code |
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| 21:46.03 | squeezembr | cd /usr; ls and /usr is empty! |
| 21:47.11 | Iridos | piklu, you configured it to listen only on localhost... so go reconfigure it to listen on either all interfaces or whatever yours is or whatever your IP is, depending on how its configuration goes |
| 21:47.25 | piklu | yes, Iridos, thats right |
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| 21:49.21 | squeezembr | i may have found the solution. i had to execute mount -t ext4 /dev/sda5 /usr to run update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda THIS TIME the commands were exexuted with no errors so i think i should reboot now and find out right? |
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| 21:50.17 | nsadmin | squeezembr, did you format sda5 as ext4? |
| 21:50.23 | squeezembr | yes |
| 21:50.28 | nsadmin | does grub support ext4? |
| 21:50.47 | nsadmin | what happened when you tried to mount without -t ext4? |
| 21:50.58 | tremon | nsadmin: grub-pc (v2) does |
| 21:51.14 | piklu | OKAY, another, trying to install using apt-get, change log section comes to read, whats the key to close it back |
| 21:53.04 | nsadmin | tremon, that resolves almost everything... except this mount thing... is there not an indication "ext4" in the superblock |
| 21:53.06 | nsadmin | '? |
| 21:53.28 | piklu | Iridos, done, running successfully, and am happy to see it running. |
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| 21:53.41 | Iridos | \o/ |
| 21:53.48 | piklu | Iridos: I ll be idle here trying to be friends with u people :) thanks so much. |
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| 21:54.09 | nsadmin | is an n person |
| 21:54.20 | Iridos | is more of an x person |
| 21:54.27 | Iridos | :) |
| 21:54.33 | piklu | lol |
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| 21:55.01 | tharkun | Gentlemen upgrading from lenny->squeeze has been a pain to achieve in the past specially with mysql db servers. Have the isues been fixed or is it best to do a backup and restore operation with all the associated down time? |
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| 21:55.39 | Iridos | has it? |
| 21:55.45 | piklu | Iridos: suggest me something I can read and brush up my linux. Effectively |
| 21:56.01 | kevlarman | tharkun: i'd say you want to test it on a server that isn't live regardless of the answer you get here |
| 21:56.03 | Iridos | I thought it was a lot less painless than previous upgrades |
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| 21:57.05 | nsadmin | piklu, look in the bash source, you will find bash-ref.pdf |
| 21:57.05 | tremon | nsadmin: not sure about the superblock, but ext4 data structures are very similar to ext2/3. Just different features. Wouldn't surprise me if the superblock was identical except for a version field |
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| 21:57.25 | kevlarman | tharkun: that said, if you really want (and have spare hardware), i've migrated mysql databases onto new servers with ~30 seconds of downtime |
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| 21:57.36 | tharkun | kevlarman: Thanks. Since this is the last server there is to migrate. I will simply roll out one of those nasty emails to all users to avoid working this sunday morning |
| 21:57.49 | nsadmin | that would be my first and for now only suggestion... time for my bass lesson! |
| 21:58.00 | tharkun | kevlarman: sorry no spare tires around here :( |
| 21:58.14 | samek | hello.. lenny packages aren't not available on mirrors? |
| 21:58.15 | Iridos | piklu, huh... depends a lot on what you want to read on. you can /msg dpkg grounding and then ask dpkg about the <topics> <>brackets that seem to apply to what you want to know about |
| 21:58.20 | kevlarman | tharkun: not even a staging server? D: |
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| 21:59.29 | tharkun | kevlarman: We've been tight on resources for some time now :( |
| 21:59.42 | piklu | Iridos, If I want something of like a book to learn from ground up, so I improve general linux, I have worked in many operating system, and believe me all these commands am asking you I have used before, but I forget them later too. |
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| 22:00.10 | samek | or let me ask differently.. where can i find lenny mirror? |
| 22:00.20 | tharkun | !lenny |
| 22:00.21 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
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| 22:00.45 | tharkun | samek: ^^ |
| 22:00.54 | piklu | whats the channel for debian devs? |
| 22:01.44 | tharkun | piklu: there is a not so recent book about linux that is quite easy to understand. Wait around until i recall the name |
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| 22:02.00 | tharkun | !rute |
| 22:02.01 | dpkg | Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition (RUTE) is a book for novice to intermediate users covering GNU/Linux in a non-distribution specific way. Packaged for Lenny as rutebook in <non-free>. Removed from Debian to resolve bug #540956, ask me about <grounding> for alternative resources. http://rute.2038bug.com/ |
| 22:02.09 | tharkun | piklu: there you go |
| 22:02.57 | Iridos | dpkg, dbugs 540956 |
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| 22:03.01 | dpkg | DONE:#540956:N[ftp.debian.org] RM: rutebook -- RoQA; orphaned, dead upstream, obsolete (); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:06:01 UTC [] |
| 22:03.01 | samek | tharkun: thanks |
| 22:03.14 | samek | !lenny sources.list |
| 22:03.14 | dpkg | Lenny is no longer on the mirror network but can be found on archive.debian.org; you can use sources.list lines "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main". Realise that Lenny has not had security support since February 2012 and that you should upgrade to a newer, supported release. Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. |
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| 22:03.48 | Iridos | samek, you can also do /msg dpkg lenny sources.list |
| 22:03.49 | piklu | tharkun: is it common to forget ? |
| 22:04.15 | kevlarman | tharkun: tbh, if you don't have a staging server, downtime related to upgrades isn't your fault, blame it on whoever won't buy you a staging server :P |
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| 22:04.50 | nicoparker | Hi everyone! Just one quick question : which soft is the default one in testing for taking care of the cpu frequency? |
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| 22:05.03 | nsadmin | that's the kind of thing that needs to be in the contract and highlighted |
| 22:05.26 | piklu | Monit vs Upstart - whats better ? |
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| 22:06.49 | tharkun | piklu: The larger your Alzheimer the harder it is to remember :D |
| 22:07.39 | piklu | tharkun: I have worked in multiple areas :) |
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| 22:11.55 | flonkgertonite | is there some kind disc burning utility (that can burn ISOs to a dvd) I can apt-get with a GUI? |
| 22:12.59 | tharkun | flonkgertonite: there are several but your dm prefers one. K3B works fine with kde and brassero is nice with gnome |
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| 22:29.49 | LordDeath | I just made an apt-get upgrade to install the latest apache2 packages |
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| 22:30.23 | LordDeath | http://www.debian.org/security/2012/dsa-2452 <-- this say I shouldn't allow dpkg to replace my current config files |
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| 22:31.49 | LordDeath | dkpg doesn't ask my any questions if the config files are still the same, right? |
| 22:32.43 | tharkun | LordDeath: It should but making a backup of your config files before upgrading is a good practice |
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| 22:33.57 | bobdobalina | exit |
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| 22:49.16 | rudi_s | LordDeath: If you haven't modified them it won't ask. |
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| 22:59.05 | Bartzy | Hey |
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| 22:59.09 | Bartzy | Message from syslogd@buzz at Apr 17 01:54:15 ... |
| 22:59.13 | Bartzy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:01.42 | k-man | how can i tell wich device my dvdrom drive is on? |
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| 23:05.10 | thepro4ever | how do i reinstall all of the x windows and xorg stuff |
| 23:05.23 | thepro4ever | i can't get my display running and its complaining that X is not found |
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| 23:08.59 | rudi_s | thepro4ever: apt-get install xorg |
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| 23:09.33 | thepro4ever | thankyou sir, this has been truly challenging for me trying to get all this stuff reinstalled |
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| 23:09.37 | thepro4ever | i will try that |
| 23:09.47 | dvs | reinstalled? |
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| 23:10.02 | rudi_s | np |
| 23:10.16 | boudiccas | if i want to remove all debs on my backuo drive, will this work please? .........rm /media/backup/*.deb |
| 23:10.37 | rudi_s | boudiccas: Try this: echo /media/backup/*.deb and see if it matches the files you want. |
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| 23:10.41 | rudi_s | Then run it with rm. |
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| 23:10.51 | rudi_s | (It should work fine - but if you're unsure, always try it with echo first.) |
| 23:11.10 | abrotman | wtf ... |
| 23:11.17 | boudiccas | i dont want ti to go into teh nested directories of my backups, just the straight runthrough of them |
| 23:11.33 | abrotman | reads his lastlog ... |
| 23:11.40 | rudi_s | boudiccas: Well, try it with echo ... |
| 23:11.45 | rudi_s | (And it won't recurse.) |
| 23:12.45 | boudiccas | thanks, it looks okay so i'll try it then |
| 23:12.54 | rudi_s | np |
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| 23:14.28 | Jayface | how do i refresh the $PATH |
| 23:14.31 | Jayface | ? |
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| 23:14.59 | Jayface | I added a script to my path location but it is not recognized |
| 23:15.00 | rudi_s | Jayface: Refresh? |
| 23:15.21 | rudi_s | What shell are you using? rehash in zsh, bash should just find it AFAIK. |
| 23:15.29 | Jayface | huh |
| 23:15.31 | k-man | i can't work out why i can't see the DVD drive |
| 23:15.33 | Jayface | i echo path |
| 23:15.42 | Jayface | and the path im using echoes |
| 23:15.52 | Jayface | but it still doesnt find my script |
| 23:16.02 | rudi_s | !enter |
| 23:16.02 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 23:16.16 | boudiccas | its asking if i want to remove the write protected file for /each/ deb. i'm using the command ..... rm /media/backup/*.deb ... how do i get it to /not/ ask and just remove them please? |
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| 23:16.31 | rudi_s | Jayface: ^ - Sure it's in the right directory? echo $PATH |
| 23:16.39 | Jayface | 1 sec |
| 23:16.47 | rudi_s | And it that doesn't work, try opening a new terminal and try it again. |
| 23:17.07 | Jayface | haha |
| 23:17.14 | Jayface | yeah I just needed a new console |
| 23:17.18 | Jayface | thanks |
| 23:17.23 | rudi_s | np |
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| 23:19.10 | boudiccas | sorted! i was already in /media/backup so i just ran the command ..... rm -f *.deb |
| 23:19.33 | rudi_s | boudiccas: Be careful with -f, might be dangerous. |
| 23:20.12 | piklu | I have got a mac, and it runs windows, and I cant end that thing, HOME and END when it comes to install and change logs are coming up in front |
| 23:21.06 | boudiccas | rudi_s, if its deleted some debs from within the backup its not a problem because they will be replaced with th enext backup at 0300 |
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| 23:21.38 | rudi_s | boudiccas: Sure, just wanted to mention that rm -f might be dangerous. |
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| 23:21.58 | boudiccas | rudi_s, np |
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| 23:25.28 | thepro4ever | wooo |
| 23:25.45 | thepro4ever | i got my display back using a string of commands that totally bewilder me |
| 23:25.55 | thepro4ever | i destroyed my display using command options that bewildered me |
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| 23:26.36 | thepro4ever | now back to the original problem, where do i get wine 1.4 to install on debian sqeeze? |
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| 23:27.14 | dvs | you're still installing wine? |
| 23:27.24 | sunbeam | does anyone know how to properly configure pure-ftpd? like setting timeout to 0 |
| 23:28.06 | thepro4ever | dvs: lets just say i got started and somehow when doing 1.5 i removed a shit ton of packages my system was dependent on |
| 23:28.16 | thepro4ever | dvs: i'm looking for wine1.4 now |
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| 23:30.25 | dvs | a111: Still annoying.... |
| 23:30.36 | a111 | put me on ignore then |
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| 23:34.46 | ponyofde1th | anyone configure nslcd with sasl and krb tickets? |
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| 23:34.57 | thepro4ever | someone in here gave me a link yesterday for install wine 1.4 on sqeeze but i couldn't do it yesterday because my display was all screwed, anyone have that link? |
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| 23:36.50 | dvs | !topicsmite thepro4ever |
| 23:36.51 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon thepro4ever. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 23:39.04 | thepro4ever | cries |
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| 23:41.34 | k-man | any ideas why wodim would be failing like this? http://pastie.org/3801223 |
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| 23:47.46 | abrotman | wtf was that |
| 23:47.56 | abrotman | k-man: strace it, see what file/directory it's looking for |
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| 23:58.05 | jwayne | omfg so much hate happening in security channel :( |
| 23:58.17 | abrotman | security channel ? |
| 23:58.27 | jwayne | ##security |
| 23:58.31 | jwayne | (didnt want to spam) |
| 23:58.34 | abrotman | oh .. i thought you meant #debian-security |
| 23:58.59 | jwayne | that chan exists here? .. oh was supposed to get on OTRC.. |
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| 23:59.04 | jwayne | oftc* |
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| 23:59.18 | abrotman | yes, it's on OFTC |
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