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| 00:02.06 | teratoma | so what package do i use to get Windows VPN server plus debian/ubuntu client working? |
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| 00:03.35 | abrotman | what is a debian/ubuntu client? |
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| 00:11.36 | chrissbx | Hello. Is there a way to keep /var/lib/apt and dpkg compressed? |
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| 00:18.31 | LV-426 | chrissbx, I suppose you could mount it as a compressed fs - seems ext2 support transparent compression together with the e2compr kernel patch |
| 00:19.59 | LV-426 | keeping better control over what apt keeps is probable a better approach though |
| 00:20.38 | chrissbx | Well there's some apt patch in launchpad, 2010. |
| 00:21.48 | chrissbx | I don't really like the idea to patch my kernel for compression. Especially since the files are probably always accessed sequentially and in that case, just gzipping them will work better. |
| 00:22.11 | chrissbx | I know I should just buy a bigger disk. |
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| 00:22.15 | wilfredor | Hi peoples |
| 00:22.24 | wilfredor | How I could install xulrunner-1.9.2 in debian squeeze |
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| 00:26.15 | LV-426 | chrissbx, checkout APT::Cache-Limit also |
| 00:27.27 | chrissbx | Well, I've run apt-get clean already. |
| 00:28.07 | abrotman | wilfredor: that specific version ? |
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| 00:29.08 | wilfredor | abrotman: yes |
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| 00:30.19 | abrotman | wilfredor: not newer than that? |
| 00:30.46 | wilfredor | I need this version 1.9.2 |
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| 00:32.53 | wilfredor | abrotman: I really need this version |
| 00:33.08 | wilfredor | abrotman: It's a dependence of kiwix |
| 00:33.17 | abrotman | wilfredor: in what version of Debian |
| 00:33.18 | abrotman | ? |
| 00:33.26 | wilfredor | abrotman: squeeze |
| 00:33.35 | abrotman | no such package in Debian ? |
| 00:33.57 | wilfredor | abrotman: no for squeeze |
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| 00:34.06 | abrotman | !tell wilfredor about sdn |
| 00:34.07 | abrotman | good luck |
| 00:34.32 | wilfredor | !tell me about sdn please |
| 00:34.42 | abrotman | the bot already did that |
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| 00:35.21 | wilfredor | abrotman: kiwix is free and I need kiwix for SOS childrens |
| 00:35.32 | abrotman | wilfredor: but you're using the Ubuntu PPA on Squeeze? |
| 00:35.37 | wilfredor | kiwix is GNU Wikipedia Offline reader for 3 wold countrys |
| 00:35.49 | wilfredor | abrotman: yes |
| 00:36.04 | abrotman | wilfredor: that may end badly .. but anyway, the bot told you where to look, good luck |
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| 00:36.45 | wilfredor | abrotman: could you build a debian package of kiwix? |
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| 00:37.04 | wilfredor | abrotman: http://www.kiwix.org |
| 00:37.20 | wilfredor | I need make a package of kiwix for my FLISOL |
| 00:37.51 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617813 |
| 00:37.55 | abrotman | someone is already trying |
| 00:38.06 | wilfredor | Kiwix need be installed in 430 computers |
| 00:38.46 | abrotman | okay .. |
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| 00:46.44 | dvs | sigh |
| 00:46.59 | abrotman | mmm .. grownups |
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| 00:50.57 | dvs | mumbles about west coaster logging in twice |
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| 00:52.54 | nsadmin | west coast of... australia? |
| 00:53.14 | dvs | not quite, eh? |
| 00:53.23 | nsadmin | canadaa? |
| 00:53.44 | nsadmin | bc, eh? |
| 00:53.55 | dvs | ;-) |
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| 00:59.34 | FelipeAbella | hi, i'm using module "wl" for wireless (BCM4313). I used network-manager to create an ad-hoc, and "iwconfig" agrees it is correctly configured, but no device can see it. It worked before (yesterday), and the only difference i recall is that yesterday i was connected to the internet through a cable, and know, through a modem. Any ideas? |
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| 01:01.05 | FelipeAbella | (updating network-manager, be right back) |
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| 01:02.29 | yannickoo | Hey guys, how can I include Plesk 10.4.4 into my sources.list? http://autoinstall.plesk.com/PSA_10.4.4/ just contains directories of different distributions |
| 01:03.03 | cantido | don't use plesk |
| 01:03.23 | yannickoo | cantido: :D |
| 01:03.30 | abrotman | yannickoo: a) plesk stinks b) if you insist, ask them |
| 01:03.31 | yannickoo | cantido: but i even wanna know the answer |
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| 01:03.38 | abrotman | yannickoo: plesk is not supported here |
| 01:03.42 | cantido | yannickoo: ask their support |
| 01:03.47 | yannickoo | fukka |
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| 01:03.59 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@91-64-76-59-dynip.superkabel.de] by abrotman |
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| 01:04.24 | abrotman | yannickoo: a) go somewhere else for name-calling b) maybve try ##plesk |
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| 01:05.18 | abrotman | that was easy! |
| 01:05.30 | thepro4ever | i put a disk into my optical drive and it doesn't look like it mounted it, now i can't get my optical disk drive tray open |
| 01:05.33 | thepro4ever | any ideas? |
| 01:05.45 | cantido | thepro4ever: try eject |
| 01:05.51 | scientes | thepro4ever, man eject |
| 01:06.11 | cantido | the door gets locked if its mounted though, so you might want to check mount too |
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| 01:07.11 | thepro4ever | eject isn't working |
| 01:07.30 | abrotman | thepro4ever: sounds like it's mounted |
| 01:08.47 | thepro4ever | this is all i have mounted, http://codepad.org/astYORQX |
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| 01:09.17 | abrotman | you have a web URL mounted ? |
| 01:09.28 | thepro4ever | http://codepad.org/8Roh0ms7 |
| 01:09.34 | thepro4ever | sorry that was a mistake |
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| 01:10.06 | cantido | thinks thepro4ever drive is secretly skynet |
| 01:10.28 | thepro4ever | cantido: i'm the father |
| 01:10.55 | abrotman | thepro4ever: did you look in dmesg or /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog ? |
| 01:10.56 | thepro4ever | is there a way to just force eject all drives |
| 01:11.40 | dvs | ducks |
| 01:12.00 | ranix | is there a factoid similar to !why not ubuntu |
| 01:12.22 | thepro4ever | well i'll try rebooting my pc i guess |
| 01:12.23 | abrotman | ranix: shuldn't that go without saying? |
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| 01:12.34 | abrotman | wow .. that's lazy |
| 01:12.52 | ranix | that string doesn't seem to hit |
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| 01:13.29 | abrotman | ranix: i think the inverse is "!why debian" |
| 01:13.42 | jwayne | why do people asking dumb questions have egomaniac nicknames lol |
| 01:13.51 | ranix | aha! thx abrotman |
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| 01:17.56 | male | Howdy. When did oprofile become obsolete and what package replaces it? |
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| 01:18.58 | abrotman | are you sure it's obsolete? they had a release last year |
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| 01:19.47 | abrotman | male: but there is a program called sysprof in Debian |
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| 01:20.48 | male | abrotman: Yeah, I noticed that... Seems a lot more basic than oprofile though... (oprofile has no installation candidate in unstable anymore). |
| 01:21.18 | abrotman | male: that just means the maintainer orphaned it |
| 01:21.43 | male | Sigh. It was never very easy to use, but oprofile + kcachegrind was a very handy combination. |
| 01:22.01 | mick_laptop | hi everyone, I'm trying to bridge my wifi to eth0. Any ideas how I can do this w/ NetworkManager? |
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| 01:22.28 | mick_laptop | I see "share with other computers" as an option, but I don't see where to specify the other interface |
| 01:22.47 | mick_laptop | I have gone under eth0 and set that to no availe |
| 01:22.53 | abrotman | male: removal reason: RoQA; low popcon, replacements exist, buggy, unmaintained |
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| 01:23.30 | cantido | mick_laptop: do you want to do it long term? |
| 01:23.49 | mick_laptop | no |
| 01:24.07 | mick_laptop | quick hack to get my voip up and running again so I can make some phone calls |
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| 01:24.50 | mick_laptop | vonage phone to eth0 sharing my wifi via hotspot |
| 01:25.01 | cantido | mick_laptop: I would use bridge utils, and create a bridge with that.. not sure how you would do it with network manager |
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| 01:26.02 | LinuxGuy20091 | I have a desktop machine with 8GB ram. I run 32bit squeeze with the bigmem kernel. Would there be any benefit to moving over to squeeze 64bit? |
| 01:26.20 | abrotman | LinuxGuy20091: do you have any processes that would benefit from it? |
| 01:26.48 | dvs | LinuxGuy20091: Move it over? You'd have to reinstall. |
| 01:26.57 | cantido | or install the amd64 kernel |
| 01:27.00 | LinuxGuy20091 | abrotman: I have no idea. |
| 01:27.14 | abrotman | LinuxGuy20091: large databases? complex computations? |
| 01:27.18 | LinuxGuy20091 | dvs: Obviously. |
| 01:27.31 | abrotman | cantido: that's a whole different mess |
| 01:27.37 | dwon | mongodb? |
| 01:27.51 | cantido | abrotman: he would still get the benefits of a 64bit kernel.. i.e. no PAE |
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| 01:28.16 | LinuxGuy20091 | abrotman: Handbrake encodes of my DVDs is the biggest thing I can think of that might benefit. Not sure if it will though and how much. |
| 01:28.53 | abrotman | probably zilch |
| 01:28.54 | dvs | LinuxGuy20091: Encode your DVDs to RAM? |
| 01:29.03 | abrotman | cantido: yeah, but really probably not worth it .. |
| 01:29.03 | cantido | LinuxGuy20091: anything that does a lot of register work should benefit.. |
| 01:29.24 | abrotman | oh yeah .. i was supposed to order more RAM |
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| 01:30.22 | LinuxGuy20091 | So would handbrake encodes qualify as a "lot of register work"? |
| 01:30.41 | abrotman | LinuxGuy20091: how about you test it out, let us know |
| 01:30.43 | cantido | LinuxGuy20091: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Architectural_features |
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| 01:30.54 | abrotman | LinuxGuy20091: you can write a blog post about it, get famous |
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| 01:34.04 | LinuxGuy20091 | Obviously sounds like a complete waste of time. |
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| 01:34.46 | cantido | yeah twice as many SSE registers won't help video encoding/decoding at all ;) |
| 01:35.40 | boudiccas | ,versions handbrake |
| 01:35.41 | judd | No package named 'handbrake' was found in i386. |
| 01:35.59 | boudiccas | ,versions handbrake-gtk |
| 01:36.00 | judd | Package: handbrake-gtk on i386 -- lenny-multimedia: 0.9.3-0.1; squeeze-multimedia: 0.9.5-0.1; sid-multimedia: 0.9.6-0.1; wheezy-multimedia: 0.9.6-0.1 |
| 01:37.25 | LinuxGuy20091 | handbrake is in debian-multimedia and is not supported. yadda yadda |
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| 01:41.05 | betology | hello, do you know if Debian uses BSD style init scripts? |
| 01:41.17 | cantido | LinuxGuy20091: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1204_3264&num=2 -- h264 encoding is apparently faster for amd64 anyhow |
| 01:41.39 | cantido | benchmarks done on ubuntu but it applies to debian all the same |
| 01:43.02 | abrotman | betology: does any linux use bsd style? |
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| 01:44.16 | betology | abrotman, in my LUG someone say Debian does !! |
| 01:44.25 | abrotman | betology: i think that someone is crazy |
| 01:44.50 | abrotman | betology: or they don't understand the difference |
| 01:45.01 | betology | abrotman, I readed Slackware use it |
| 01:45.40 | abrotman | betology: okay, well, Debian (the linux part of Debian) uses sysv |
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| 01:46.11 | betology | abrotman, do you know the difference? |
| 01:46.28 | abrotman | yes, do you? |
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| 01:46.46 | DMBoyCloud | alo alo |
| 01:47.27 | betology | abrotman, no, Can you tell me about it, please |
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| 01:47.51 | abrotman | betology: I'm sure there is a wikipedia article about it .. |
| 01:48.24 | cantido | I think there's this thing that search for keywords in the interwebs.. google.com or something |
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| 01:49.47 | betology | abrotman, thank you ! |
| 01:50.03 | ner0x | If I write a program for my debian distro, where should it preside? |
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| 01:50.20 | cantido | ner0x: /usr/local if everyone needs access to it |
| 01:50.22 | abrotman | ner0x: /usr/local/bin/ |
| 01:50.28 | ner0x | That works. Thank you! |
| 01:51.03 | ner0x | And for any type of file storage, /var/lib/$App/ <-- here |
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| 01:51.32 | abrotman | that's one possibility |
| 01:51.47 | cantido | ner0x: variable files.. not static stuff |
| 01:52.08 | ner0x | What about static? |
| 01:52.15 | cantido | /usr/local/share/ I think |
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| 01:52.23 | abrotman | perhaps you should define static/variable for him ? |
| 01:52.36 | abrotman | or ask him what type of files he plans to store |
| 01:52.47 | cantido | ner0x: static meaning data files for the application that don't change |
| 01:53.05 | ner0x | More like files that change for the app. |
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| 01:53.11 | ner0x | Project files, etc. |
| 01:53.26 | cantido | for example: nmap keeps some protocol lists etc in /usr/share/nmap |
| 01:53.40 | cantido | those only change when nmap is upgraded |
| 01:53.43 | abrotman | even though that could change ... |
| 01:53.45 | ner0x | These are files that users would upload. |
| 01:53.57 | cantido | ner0x: those go in /var |
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| 01:54.36 | cantido | ner0x: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE31 -- what /var is for |
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| 01:55.29 | cantido | and http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRSHAREARCHITECTUREINDEPENDENTDATA -- for /usr/share or /usr/local/share |
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| 01:56.01 | nsadmin | ner0x, would you say that most of these projects and project files contain source? |
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| 02:01.42 | nsadmin | ner0x, also, "if you write a program for your debian distribution", you would include a way to place the program in any directory and to make proper references to the directories that you place supporting files in |
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| 02:03.44 | cantido | only if you can be bothered to properly package ;) |
| 02:04.35 | nsadmin | plus if it's one file, then the script's location is -the- reference, if that's even needed |
| 02:04.54 | nsadmin | but, he's not talking so he must have made all those decisions already |
| 02:05.25 | abrotman | thank goodness |
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| 02:10.12 | pmpbook | Just updated a machine to wheezy |
| 02:10.34 | pmpbook | After the boot up process, the computer appears to stop sending a video signal |
| 02:10.45 | pmpbook | That is, at the point where I would login as a user |
| 02:10.52 | pmpbook | I can still ssh into the machine though |
| 02:10.57 | pmpbook | any ideas? |
| 02:11.33 | abrotman | pmpbook: check the X log, see what settings it thinks are usable |
| 02:11.52 | pmpbook | Not that comfortable with linux, what is the X log? |
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| 02:17.33 | abrotman | pmpbook: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 02:20.24 | pmpbook | thank,s one sec abrotman |
| 02:21.57 | pmpbook | Hmm, what is a text editor that will work in the command line |
| 02:22.04 | pmpbook | other than VI |
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| 02:22.23 | abrotman | you can just use "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" |
| 02:22.42 | LtL | pmpbook: nano, emacs |
| 02:23.01 | pmpbook | ahh nano |
| 02:23.07 | pmpbook | kept looking for micro for some reason |
| 02:23.26 | LtL | pmpbook: oops, emacs runs gui now :( |
| 02:23.45 | pmpbook | anyways what should I be looking for abrotman? |
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| 02:24.14 | jordanm | LtL: emacs -nw |
| 02:24.26 | LtL | jordanm: thanks jordanm |
| 02:24.35 | abrotman | pmpbook: the resolution it finds to be acceptable |
| 02:24.37 | jordanm | LtL: if not GUI is available, it will run non-GUI by default |
| 02:24.52 | LtL | jordanm: kk, thx. |
| 02:26.00 | pmpbook | abrotman I don't see anything about resolution, No layout section, no screen section, using defaults |
| 02:26.30 | abrotman | it'd probably be pretty far down |
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| 02:27.02 | pmpbook | oh there is more to this |
| 02:27.06 | abrotman | pmpbook: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 02:28.16 | pmpbook | No abrotman |
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| 02:34.13 | nutron | what does it mean when I do an ls -lh on / and /tmp is listed at 16G ... the directory. |
| 02:34.19 | nutron | fs corruption? |
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| 02:35.27 | nutron | drwxrwxrwt 6 root root 16G Apr 16 19:16 tmp |
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| 02:36.31 | pmpbook | actually I think it might be ok abrotman |
| 02:36.34 | pmpbook | I can vnc into it |
| 02:36.42 | pmpbook | and it mostly looks right |
| 02:36.49 | nutron | ls -R shows 250 files.. du ... shows 17G when in tmp... there are two directories inside of it each eating up about 300k |
| 02:37.28 | abrotman | nutron: is something writing to a very large file? |
| 02:37.45 | LuisLuis | Hello guys, i just installed Debian, and had ubuntu on another partition, the problem i have is that now the grub only shows me debian to start, theres no ubuntu. I will apreciate your help. Thanks. |
| 02:37.51 | nutron | I don't see any files in there... that are over say 80k |
| 02:38.09 | abrotman | LuisLuis: install os-prober |
| 02:39.26 | LuisLuis | thanks abrotman, i have already installed it |
| 02:39.52 | abrotman | LuisLuis: are you sure ubuntu is still there? |
| 02:40.03 | LuisLuis | yes |
| 02:41.19 | LuisLuis | abrotman, yes i can mount it also. |
| 02:41.35 | abrotman | LuisLuis: does the directory that holds the kernels still exist? |
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| 02:42.41 | LuisLuis | abrotman, sorry kinda noob doesnt know how to check that |
| 02:43.06 | abrotman | they'd be in /boot on the ubuntu system .. if it's on a different mount point, you need to make sure that's there also |
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| 02:48.39 | tsccof | hey guys, anyone having problems trying to add a MSN buddy using pidgin? |
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| 02:51.54 | somiaj | tsccof: there is a #pidgin channel, but first what version of pidgin are you using? The one in squeeze |
| 02:51.57 | somiaj | ,versions pidgin |
| 02:51.58 | judd | Package: pidgin on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.7.3-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze2; sid: 2.10.2-1; wheezy: 2.10.2-1; experimental: 2.10.2-1.1 |
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| 02:53.52 | tsccof | somiaj: yes, squeeze's, 2.7.3 |
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| 02:54.25 | somiaj | ,check-backport pidgin |
| 02:54.32 | judd | Backporting package pidgin in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgadu-dev (>= 1:1.11.0-2), network-manager-dev (>= 0.9.0) [linux-any]. |
| 02:55.31 | tsccof | somiaj: so, was it backported? |
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| 02:55.45 | somiaj | tsccof: No there isn't a backport and it won't be easy to backport (you'll have to backport some libaries) |
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| 02:56.03 | somiaj | tsccof: I am also unsure if the problem you are having is with the version in squeeze or not since I run 2.10.2 here. |
| 02:56.18 | somiaj | tsccof: what error/issue do you have when adding them? |
| 02:56.19 | tsccof | somiaj: it remained during all 2.7.X series |
| 02:56.30 | tsccof | somiaj: "Unable to add buddy. Invalid username." |
| 02:56.39 | tsccof | somiaj: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/13298 |
| 02:56.55 | somiaj | tsccof: are you using the users full email address. Have you asked him to try to add you first? |
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| 02:57.18 | tsccof | somiaj: he hasn't added me yet, I'm using his full e-mail address |
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| 03:00.56 | somiaj | well you are getting a different error message than that bug.... |
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| 03:04.32 | somiaj | I would have suggested trying a backport, but unforntally you are going to have to backport more than just the pidgin package |
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| 03:08.16 | pmpbook | I don't see an option under graphics |
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| 03:08.55 | tsccof | somiaj: well, actually, it's the same message... in the description, the guy 'simplified' it by recalling from memory.. the log message is the same |
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| 03:09.44 | somiaj | tsccof: well you could see if the suggested work arounds are fine. |
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| 03:10.10 | somiaj | I didn't read all the way thought the bugreport, but you could also try and see if you could apply the patch to get it to work on the squeeze version |
| 03:12.37 | tsccof | thanks for the help, somiaj! I'll patch it later on |
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| 03:57.22 | tdubellz | /1/399 |
| 03:57.30 | tdubellz | oops. |
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| 03:59.46 | consequent | has anyone here read the GEB: the Eternal Golden Braid by Hofstadter? I'm considering it as my next book. |
| 04:01.28 | Bronze | consequent: its an excelent bach |
| 04:02.33 | Bronze | and when escher you get done with it you can look for other godel books |
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| 04:04.49 | nevyn | groans |
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| 04:11.04 | peterrooney | consequent: your next month would be well spent reading it. |
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| 04:19.52 | nsadmin | anyone read David Deida's "The Way of the Superior Man"? |
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| 04:24.27 | roboman2444 | anyone know how to remove synaptics-touchpad from the 3.2 kernel? |
| 04:24.55 | roboman2444 | i have to always boot the 3.1 kernel, because my trackpad works MUCH better without synaptics |
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| 04:36.29 | simonlnu | roboman2444: how about just blacklisting the module? |
| 04:36.58 | roboman2444 | alright.... how do i do that? |
| 04:37.05 | roboman2444 | i assume some modprobe stuff |
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| 04:41.17 | laurus | I am trying to print from a USB printer. I press "Print" in a GTK application and nothing happens. The printer is set up through CUPS. What should I do? |
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| 04:45.56 | simonlnu | !module blacklist |
| 04:46.00 | simonlnu | !blacklist |
| 04:46.00 | dpkg | To blacklist a Linux kernel module, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 04:46.07 | simonlnu | roboman2444: ^^^ |
| 04:46.38 | roboman2444 | thanks |
| 04:46.46 | roboman2444 | but does it have to be .local.conf? |
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| 04:46.56 | roboman2444 | i have heared that just blacklist will work |
| 04:47.09 | simonlnu | as long as it has .conf it should be ok |
| 04:47.17 | simonlnu | heard |
| 04:47.20 | roboman2444 | alright |
| 04:48.03 | roboman2444 | is there a way to list ALL modules, not just currently loaded ones? |
| 04:48.33 | simonlnu | modprobe -l in squeeze will work |
| 04:49.04 | roboman2444 | invalid option |
| 04:49.46 | simonlnu | you're not using squeeze then, are you. |
| 04:49.51 | roboman2444 | testing |
| 04:50.32 | simonlnu | kmod list |
| 04:50.59 | simonlnu | oh, no, that won't work either |
| 04:51.03 | roboman2444 | |grep syn doesnt show anything... |
| 04:51.27 | roboman2444 | same as lsmod |
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| 04:52.39 | simonlnu | yeh... dunno. doesn't seem to be implemented in kmod |
| 04:52.48 | roboman2444 | alright... well thanks anyway |
| 04:52.53 | roboman2444 | hopefully that will work |
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| 05:55.07 | newbie|3 | Hi there! I installed Mozilla Firefox 11.0 and flashplugin-nonfree from repository. And flash player does not work. What is wrong? |
| 05:55.28 | kevlarman | newbie|3: did you read the note when you install flashplugin-nonfree? |
| 05:55.40 | newbie|3 | kevlarman: No |
| 05:55.51 | kevlarman | newbie|3: reinstall it, and read the note |
| 05:55.57 | flonkgertonite | where is the themes folder for gnome in debian? (where I would put theme files for gnome tweak tools)? |
| 05:56.23 | newbie|3 | kevlarman: kk, thanks |
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| 05:56.59 | kevlarman | newbie|3: if any packages print any notices in their install scripts, that generally means it's important |
| 05:57.04 | kevlarman | you shouldn't ignore them |
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| 05:57.32 | newbie|3 | kevlarman I'm sorry what notes do you mean? |
| 05:58.08 | newbie|3 | kevlarman: I install it without any notices |
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| 06:03.04 | loddafnir | hello , is this grub-efi-amd64 needed to for a gpt - 3GB HDD ? (standard desktop hardware) |
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| 06:04.08 | loddafnir | cause when i try to do a dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, i receive a /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst: line 270: 27556 Segmentation fault grub-mkdevicemap --no-floppy |
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| 06:06.41 | loddafnir | when i do a grub-probe sda, i just receive a grub-probe: info: opening md/0. |
| 06:06.41 | loddafnir | grub-probe: error: no such disk. although md/0 is available and all the other discs as well |
| 06:06.58 | loddafnir | + that first parition is marked as ef02 |
| 06:07.11 | loddafnir | while all other raid devices are marked with fd00 |
| 06:07.29 | loddafnir | Number Start (sector) End (sector) Size Code Name |
| 06:07.29 | loddafnir | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.29 | loddafnir | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:47.40 | Guest95025 | there are any programe in debian for searching and indexing content of local network |
| 08:47.56 | Guest95025 | ? |
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| 08:54.59 | fredl | is anybody aware of any managed switch appliance (so including hardware) that runs Debian? |
| 08:55.50 | fredl | I'm kinda looking around for a managed switch myself and figured it would be really cool to just have a little linux box with lots of interfaces doing the switching. |
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| 08:57.06 | fredl | so I don't mean 'appliance' as in a vmware of kvm virtual host or anything. |
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| 09:19.20 | nairb- | i'm running squeeze on ec2.... if I change my sources.list to point at wheezy and do a dist-upgrade, is there anything I have to worry about with respect to the virtualized kernel? or should it at least in theory "just work" ? |
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| 09:26.14 | sidro | hi |
| 09:26.57 | sidro | are bugs sended upstream ? |
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| 09:27.15 | sidro | or only to the debian team? |
| 09:27.17 | babilen | sidro: Not necessarily |
| 09:27.55 | sidro | how to send bugs upstream ? |
| 09:27.57 | babilen | sidro: It is up to the maintainer to decide how to handle the bug. Bugs reported to Debian's BTS are not automatically reported upstream as well. (which would be horrible) |
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| 09:28.45 | babilen | sidro: You report them to whatever bug tracker is used by the upstream project, but you can just as well report it to Debian as it might be due to Debian specific changes. |
| 09:28.59 | sidro | why is horrible? |
| 09:30.37 | sidro | maintainer send bugs upstream if are bugs in package and isn't fault of packager ? |
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| 09:31.31 | babilen | sidro: Because bugs would be duplicated everywhere - Bugs might be Debian specific or other things. If it makes sense to report a bug upstream that will be done. |
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| 09:33.16 | sidro | Will be send maintainer a report upstream if are bugs application ? |
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| 09:35.02 | babilen | sidro: Yes (If I understand your question correctly) -- Bugs will be reported upstream *if* it makes sense to do so. |
| 09:35.39 | guardian | hi, what could explain logrotate says "log does not need rotating"? log files are 3 days old and should be rotated daily. how does it work? there are no mentions of those log files in logrotate's status file. thx |
| 09:38.31 | sidro | babilen: ok |
| 09:38.33 | sidro | 10x |
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| 09:42.07 | babilen | !tell sidro -about reportbug |
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| 09:44.47 | sidro | thanks |
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| 09:50.32 | nairb- | or, what should my /etc/apt/preferences look like if I want everything on squeeze except one package that I want to pull from wheezy? |
| 09:50.44 | sidro | !tell sidro -about pidgin |
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| 09:50.46 | sidro | :) |
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| 09:51.15 | Joestar79 | hello everyone |
| 09:51.35 | Joestar79 | I need to install 2 uWSGI plugin inside a virtualenv |
| 09:51.55 | Joestar79 | what happens if I use sudo apt-get? |
| 09:53.10 | Joestar79 | will those plugins be installed in py env/lib/python2.6? |
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| 09:53.52 | tralala | Joestar79, you don't use apt-get in virtualenv |
| 09:54.20 | Joestar79 | I thought that. But what if I can't find the right pip install for those plugins? |
| 09:54.35 | nairb- | Joestar79: is it in "easy_install" ? |
| 09:54.45 | Joestar79 | which btw are uwsgi-plugin-http uwsgi-plugin-python |
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| 09:54.58 | Joestar79 | tried with pip install but didn't work |
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| 09:56.31 | Joestar79 | nairb- doesn't seem so |
| 09:56.34 | gnugr | Joestar79:use "apt-cache policy <package-name>" to check if exists |
| 09:57.06 | sidro | -help pidgin |
| 09:58.26 | Joestar79 | gnugr: it says they don't exist |
| 09:58.59 | Joestar79 | and so does aptitude search |
| 09:59.10 | gnugr | Joestar79:what debian version you run? |
| 09:59.20 | Joestar79 | the latest |
| 09:59.28 | gnugr | stable? |
| 10:00.08 | Joestar79 | Linux debian 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 26 05:20:33 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 10:00.22 | Joestar79 | gnugr: does this answer your question? |
| 10:00.49 | gnugr | Joestar79:btw which package are you looking? |
| 10:01.11 | Joestar79 | uwsgi-plugin-http and uwsgi-plugin-python |
| 10:01.28 | Joestar79 | I need those to properly configure uWSGI to run django 1.4 app |
| 10:01.57 | Joestar79 | or at least that's what I understood after reading a lot of blog posts |
| 10:02.20 | Joestar79 | I'm trying to server some django 1.4 app through nginx and uWSGI |
| 10:02.27 | Joestar79 | but had no luck so far |
| 10:03.20 | Joestar79 | I've installed uWSGI in my virtualenv and nginx system wide |
| 10:03.37 | gnugr | Joestar79:it does exists on testing(i did check) and i think you should try backports to see if exists |
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| 10:04.34 | Joestar79 | gnugr: I'm kinda new to debian, and I'm not quite sure I understand what u mean with "try backports" |
| 10:04.44 | Joestar79 | u mean adding some other repos? |
| 10:05.00 | sidro | yes Joestar79 |
| 10:05.02 | thewanderer1 | !tell Joestar79 about backports |
| 10:05.14 | Joestar79 | oh thx |
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| 10:07.27 | Joestar79 | all I need to do is add a line to my sources.lst and issue an apt-update? |
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| 10:07.56 | gnugr | yes, in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 10:08.01 | Joestar79 | and the plugins I need will then be available even through pip? |
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| 10:09.46 | nairb- | Joestar79: I'm not sure what they're suggesting is going to work for you.... sounds like you want to run multiple versions of certain python libraries by using python's virtualenv and are running into problems. they're talking about ways of upgrading packages in debian in general, not about keeping multiple python installations/dependencies managed separately. |
| 10:10.12 | zeev | Hi, I have problems with pings on my router from outside ( 79.181.29.214 ). However I can use www, skype and voip. Is there a problem with my router or with my ISP? how do I check it? thank you.... |
| 10:10.37 | Joestar79 | nairb-: Ok I guess I'm starting to understand |
| 10:10.40 | nairb- | Joestar79: it seems to me that you have a python specific question.... I don't particularly understand virtualenv but you might want to check in a python channel |
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| 10:11.22 | Joestar79 | from what I see I can now install packages from the backport with apt-get -t squeeze-backports install <packagename> |
| 10:11.41 | nairb- | Joestar79: python can be a real pia in this sense.... I haven't been using virtualenv but I've certainly run into issues when I had multiple versions of python installed and weird dependency issues. virtualenv is supposed to make those problems easier to solve but i don't really know how to use it. |
| 10:11.44 | Joestar79 | that could solve my issue if uWSGI would be installed system wide, I guess |
| 10:12.11 | Joestar79 | thx for your help everyone |
| 10:12.12 | nairb- | Joestar79: what debian are you running now? squeeze? |
| 10:12.38 | Joestar79 | how do I make sure of that? |
| 10:12.42 | Joestar79 | uname ? |
| 10:12.48 | nairb- | Joestar79: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 10:13.05 | Joestar79 | 6.0.4 |
| 10:13.16 | Joestar79 | so it's squeeze |
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| 10:14.54 | Joestar79 | even adding the backports I'm unable to locate the packages I need |
| 10:14.59 | babilen | Joestar79: Installations into virtualenvs (with pip) are unrelated to what is installed in the system. You really don't need to install a newer module version system-wide if all you want is to have it available in a virtualenv. |
| 10:15.12 | Joestar79 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:15.20 | nairb- | Joestar79: you migth be able to install using the url to uwsgi as described here: http://projects.unbit.it/uwsgi/wiki/Install |
| 10:15.26 | babilen | ,versions uwsgi-plugin-http |
| 10:15.28 | judd | Package: uwsgi-plugin-http on i386 -- sid: 1.1.2+dfsg-1; wheezy: 1.1.2+dfsg-1; experimental: 1.1.2+dfsg-2~experimental+2 |
| 10:15.29 | nairb- | Joestar79: pip install http://projects.unbit.it/downloads/uwsgi-lts.tar.gz |
| 10:15.56 | Joestar79 | babilen: I knew that, but I can't find pip install uswgi-plugin-http |
| 10:16.32 | babilen | Joestar79: That package is not available in backports and you *really* shouldn't install it on squeeze directly from wheezy/sid/experimental. I would strongly recommend to just install it with pip in a virtualenv and be happy. You can, however, backports it from sid. |
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| 10:16.39 | babilen | ,checkbackports uwsgi-plugin-http |
| 10:16.45 | babilen | ,checkbackport uwsgi-plugin-http |
| 10:16.52 | Joestar79 | I installed uwsgi in my virtualenv just issuing pip install uwsgi |
| 10:16.56 | judd | Backporting package uwsgi-plugin-http in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libjansson-dev, libluajit-5.1-dev [i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 armel]. |
| 10:17.11 | babilen | Ok, looks as if a backport is out of the question. |
| 10:17.29 | Joestar79 | babilen I really would like to install it only in my virtualenv. The problem is I don't know how do do it |
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| 10:18.35 | babilen | Joestar79: Are you sure that you have to install that plugin seperately. Have you checked the cheeseshop? |
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| 10:18.42 | Joestar79 | narib- u r telling me that I need to install the latest version and not the stable one to get those plugins automatically? |
| 10:18.59 | Joestar79 | babilen: I have no clue what cheeseshop is |
| 10:19.12 | babilen | Joestar79: http://pypi.python.org/pypi |
| 10:19.38 | babilen | Joestar79: But this is rather a problem for #python than #debian. Are you sure that you have to install that plugin seperately? |
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| 10:20.55 | Joestar79 | ok, I'll try to ask those questions in #python and no I'm not sure, because I'm far from getting the full control of what I'm trying to do |
| 10:21.25 | Joestar79 | babilen: how am I supposed to use http://pypi.python.org/pypi ? |
| 10:21.47 | Joestar79 | what kind of info should I be able to gather from it? |
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| 10:22.37 | babilen | Joestar79: You can search for packages on that site. The Debian packages for uwsgi are all built from a single source package. I would assume that you installed everything merely by running "pip install uwsgi" -- Do you have any reason to believe that is not the case? (cf. http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/uwsgi.html) |
| 10:23.16 | Joestar79 | yes, exactly I installed uwsgi with this command pip install uwsgi |
| 10:23.43 | babilen | Joestar79: I guess that is all you need -- Do you have any reason to believe that this is not the case? |
| 10:24.01 | Joestar79 | but I'm pretty sure those plugins aren't installed, because if I run uwsgi --plugins http,python it says they aren't installed |
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| 10:26.05 | Joestar79 | babilen: I uninstalled the stable version with pip and I'm now trying with pip install ttp://projects.unbit.it/downloads/uwsgi-lts.tar.gz |
| 10:26.13 | Joestar79 | to see if it makes any difference at all |
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| 10:27.29 | babilen | That is the LTS release -- But I would really ask this in #python. I am, unfortunately, not familiar enough with uwsgi to help you. |
| 10:27.34 | lelu | is it possible to install debian in a vm and customise it to my needs before deploying it to a physical machine? |
| 10:27.57 | nevyn | lelu: that seems silly but if you have p2v tooling that you've used before then sure. |
| 10:28.03 | Joestar79 | thx a lot everyone for your help |
| 10:28.04 | nevyn | it doesn't provide such things tho |
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| 10:28.54 | Joestar79 | babilen and everyone else: just to let u all know, using the latest version of uwsgi fixed it |
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| 10:31.54 | babilen | Joestar79: I rather think that "--plugins http,python" does not work in releases later than LTS (i.e. the stable one) -- Maybe your documentation is outdated. Be that as it may: Good luck and lets discuss further problems in #python. :) |
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| 10:40.02 | oo_miguel | For some reason I am unable to access my tomcat on the external interface |
| 10:40.08 | oo_miguel | just localhost:8080 works fine |
| 10:40.14 | oo_miguel | what might be blocking access to the port? |
| 10:41.26 | fahi | it's probably only listening to localhost |
| 10:41.34 | thewanderer1 | oo_miguel: netstat -tlnp see what address it is bound to, edit config accordingly |
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| 10:47.17 | newuser | anyone currently online? |
| 10:48.05 | babilen | newuser: No, you are alone. But seriously: There are 1204 users in this channel. If you have a question: Just ask! |
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| 10:50.57 | newuser | babilen: I'm old, old linux user - redhat 3, slackware, debian circa 2001 - looking to get back into linux and using it via VirtualBox so that I can still run my work software. Is base debian advisable or should I try out the ubunto craze? |
| 10:51.39 | oo_miguel | netstat -tlnp states: tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 11787/jsvc |
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| 10:52.01 | oo_miguel | does this mean that jsvc is listening to port 8080 on ALL interfaces? |
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| 10:53.11 | babilen | newuser: Well, you are in #debian and I think it is reasonable to expect that we will recommend Debian. A lot of people are happy with it and I can just recommend to give it a try. If you want to try Ubuntu as well you can do that too. |
| 10:53.19 | babilen | !tell newuser about install debian |
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| 10:54.00 | colo-work | oo_miguel, yes. |
| 10:54.39 | newuser | babilen: fair enough. |
| 10:54.47 | newuser | thanks. |
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| 10:56.21 | babilen | newuser: I would recommend the netinstall images. They also come with <firmware> (i.e. /msg dpkg firmware image) or with newer kernels from <kmuto> -- What kind of hardware are you installing on? |
| 10:56.37 | oo_miguel | so since my tomcat is listening on all interfaces, what might be the reason that im unable to connect on the external one? |
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| 10:58.12 | newuser | babilen: I am installing a virtual machine on VirtualBox. |
| 10:58.25 | babilen | Ah, right -- Sorry, you mentioned that already. :-/ |
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| 10:58.47 | newuser | Ideally want a minimal install |
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| 10:59.47 | babilen | newuser: Just don't install *any* tasks if you want a minimal installation. I would, however, recommend to at least install the standard tasks as it contains programs you would expect on any reasonably configure *NIX system. |
| 11:00.00 | newuser | Currently I'm using Salix - since I liked Slackware also, but - I've forgotten all the commands e.g. xorg sudoers etc. - I thought there is more readily available help for debian. |
| 11:00.03 | babilen | !standard |
| 11:00.03 | dpkg | standard task is probably a "task" that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage. It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e. "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"). For a list of packages, see http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel . Also ask me about <tasksel>. Packages in the <essential> set are always installed. |
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| 11:02.43 | newuser | babilen: Many thanks. I will try and get back. Cheers. |
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| 11:03.35 | babilen | newuser: Sure, have fun and just ask if you need help. |
| 11:03.40 | babilen | !tell newuser -about introduction |
| 11:04.29 | babilen | newuser: The documents referenced in the <introduction> factoid along with the sample chapter at http://debian-handbook.info/liberation/ (excellent intro to package management on Debian) should be all the documentation you need. |
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| 11:39.06 | Natale | salve |
| 11:39.09 | Natale | !list |
| 11:39.10 | dpkg | natale: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 12:08.56 | indigo_ | do the debian kernels come with a system.map? I can't seem to find it. |
| 12:09.16 | indigo_ | or maybe it's right there in /boot |
| 12:09.35 | Seb | indigo_: sure is |
| 12:09.46 | indigo_ | scratches head |
| 12:09.54 | indigo_ | i must have been looking on another host |
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| 12:10.37 | indigo_ | ok now the next question: is there a more elegant way of making ps find the System.map for the currently running kernel, other than telling it via arguments which to use, or making a symlink of /boot/System.map? |
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| 12:11.48 | indigo_ | actually, the man page for ps says it looks for /boot/System.map-`uname -r`, but it doesn't seem to be finding it anyway. |
| 12:12.05 | indigo_ | at least, the wchan column is - for every single process. |
| 12:12.42 | Seb | indigo_: it doesn't say that |
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| 12:12.52 | Seb | indigo_: re-read it, namely /proc/*/wchan |
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| 12:14.46 | indigo_ | i don't follow. |
| 12:16.14 | indigo_ | anyhow, maybe it's not about finding the symbol table. If I run "ps -n /boot/System.map -eo pid,user,wchan=WIDE-WCHAN-COLUMN -o s,cmd" I still get "-" for wchan for all but two processes. Those two processes get "ffffff" |
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| 12:17.09 | indigo_ | from what i'm reading, wchan shows where in the kernel a process is blocked -- it can't be that all but two processes on my system aren't blocked in the kernel somewhere, right? |
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| 12:28.41 | grobda24 | Is the correct channel for wheezy/testing ? |
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| 12:32.32 | thewanderer1 | !debian-next |
| 12:32.32 | dpkg | #debian-next is a channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 12:33.32 | _ramo | hi |
| 12:34.12 | grobda24 | thewanderer1, thanks |
| 12:34.12 | _ramo | does anyone of you using kvm as a VM software? i would like to take snapshots of an qcow2 image, but don't know how |
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| 12:37.02 | abrotman | grobda24: you can also ask here |
| 12:37.02 | fabiobik | its possible to compile debian to my notebook? ive seen many articles with benefits of compiling for our specific hardware. i want to know how to do it |
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| 12:37.29 | fabiobik | anyone have made something like this? |
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| 12:38.12 | petemc | fabiobik: the benefits are minimal to non existant |
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| 12:38.12 | grobda24 | abrotman, ok, well may as well start here then. |
| 12:39.18 | Gadien | would like an opinion: I want Debian... but I have to configure the Kernel for my USB WiFi, Meantime I'm using Ubuntu 11.10; but I want Firefox 11 not 6... should I get Mint because of it's gnome integration? (trying to install all the dependancies for firefox on Ubuntu is a bitch because it's configured to work with Unity). and if I install another distro, do I need to install a new... |
| 12:39.19 | Gadien | ...grub-bootloader to include the new distro? (Mint)... |
| 12:39.19 | fabiobik | petemc rly? |
| 12:39.19 | abrotman | Gadien: Debian can use Wifi .. and IW11 |
| 12:39.19 | nevyn | Gadien: run debian or do not run debian but don't ask about other distros in #debian |
| 12:39.19 | fabiobik | ive seen many people saying the system becomes more stable and fast |
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| 12:40.02 | fabiobik | petemc: do you know techniques to tune debian? |
| 12:40.06 | grobda24 | Are there any reports of the nvidia drivers not working with wheezy kernel 3.2.0-2-686-pae ? My xorg goes into an infinite restart loop but is ok with nouveau drivers. |
| 12:40.11 | abrotman | fabiobik: tune for what? |
| 12:40.32 | fabiobik | to make it more fast as possible |
| 12:40.36 | grobda24 | I'm gonna try downgrading the kernel but can't find anything without PAE which I don't need. |
| 12:40.43 | grobda24 | goes to search packages |
| 12:41.17 | rumba | Is there any way to install libssl1.0.0 on Squeeze without breaking anything? |
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| 12:44.31 | Gadien | abrotman: | + | I know it can, but not straight away... I need internet first and I need to do it with USB. I have done research into the WiFi package, Squeeze is the stable version but does not include ath-tck(whatever) Wifi device, so I can't simply get Debian via netinstall.. btw hello again. |
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| 12:45.31 | abrotman | wtf is ath-tck ? |
| 12:45.40 | abrotman | !tell Gadien about firmware installer |
| 12:46.02 | Gadien | abrotman: | + | and what's IW11 if I may ask. |
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| 12:46.56 | abrotman | Gadien: Iceweasel |
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| 12:47.52 | Gadien | abrotman: | + | ath9k_htc is what I meant |
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| 12:50.13 | abrotman | Gadien: what in gods name is | + | ? |
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| 12:50.43 | abrotman | Gadien: still, check that firmware ISO .. might get squeeze installed without 10 steps |
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| 12:51.04 | thewanderer1 | fabiobik: in general, recompiling everything is futile. better get more RAM (or use compressed RAM - ramzswap?), disable unneeded services, run an SSD... |
| 12:51.16 | Gadien | abrotman: sorry, It's part of the script I'm using. |
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| 12:51.45 | thewanderer1 | fabiobik: you may want to compile a kernel with automatic cgroup scheduling - new kernels often improve performance too |
| 12:51.51 | karlpinc | Gadien: I agree with abrotman. First see if firmware is the issue. If that does not work type "/msg dpkg kmuto" into your irc client for information on the kmuto newer install kernels. (Really, if that does not work, ask again here.) |
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| 12:53.16 | Gadien | karlpinc: yea thanks |
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| 12:55.05 | grobda24 | What do I need to do to install a stock kernel in Wheezy ? I just need a vanilla 686 kernel without any PAE or Bigmem. But I can't find anything in the Wheezy packages. |
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| 12:55.51 | thewanderer1 | grobda24: is PAE causing problems? |
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| 12:58.45 | grobda24 | thewanderer1, not sure. Could just be my video card drivers setup. However seeing as I only have 2gb of memory I don't need PAE. |
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| 13:00.09 | thewanderer1 | grobda24: it's probably the video card... and for a PAE-less x86 kernel, roll your own |
| 13:00.15 | thewanderer1 | (use make-kpkg and friends) |
| 13:00.18 | karlpinc | grobda24: I think there's only 486 and pae kernels now. Somebody did some benchmarking, or analysis of usage patterns, or something, and decided it's not worth it. You could probably see the discussion on the list for the kernel package maintainers. |
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| 13:00.59 | grobda24 | thewanderer1, yeah, I know, roll mai own, just feeling very lazy ATM |
| 13:01.11 | grobda24 | karlpinc, ok, thanks, I should probably look into that |
| 13:01.26 | thewanderer1 | download, change 1 config option, compile. your CPU is not as lazy as you :P |
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| 13:02.36 | grobda24 | can barely reach his Margarita |
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| 13:08.26 | oskie | i'm trying to figure out what needs to be backed up on a debian system and how to restore it from scratch. Exactly what dpkg files do you need to backup? And how do you restore using dpkg (--set-selection etc)? |
| 13:08.58 | nevyn | dpkg --get-selections > selections |
| 13:08.58 | dpkg | nevyn: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 13:09.17 | thewanderer1 | !apt-clone |
| 13:09.17 | dpkg | i heard apt-clone is a utility to clone/restore the packages on an apt-based system. It will save/restore the packages, sources.list, keyring and automatic-installed states. It can also save/restore no longer downloadable packages using <dpkg-repack>. For use with squeeze, ask me about <simple sid backport>. |
| 13:09.19 | boudiccas | oskie, have a look at rsync for backup, i use it for backing up /home and its good |
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| 13:10.14 | nevyn | but this doesn't gather customised configuration or data |
| 13:10.15 | oskie | boudiccas: thanks, i use tar right now but i don't want to backup all of / |
| 13:10.41 | oskie | thewanderer1: looks useful |
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| 13:20.29 | Gadien | I don't need to install to the MBR if I already have a bootloader installed do I... current OS's: XP and Ubuntu 11.10. |
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| 13:21.26 | EmleyMoor | Gadien: I would, if you are installing Debian, so you can be sure everything matches |
| 13:21.34 | uwjesd_ | Hello there. Is there asoundconf on debian 6 anywhere? |
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| 13:24.39 | Kriminel | hello everyone i'm a over zealous linux n00b trying to setup my VPS with *some* linux knowledge. However i'm stuck at solving issues with postfix install. Wonder if anyone can help me out here, here is the console log i'm getting: http://pastebin.com/ZjQd8heC |
| 13:25.27 | babilen | uwjesd_: You can/have to create it yourself. You can do that in /etc/asound.conf or in ~/.asoundrc -- The former is system-wide and applies to all users wheares the latter is user specific. |
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| 13:26.27 | jordanm | Kriminel: that's specific to your hosting providers non-default setup |
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| 13:26.49 | jordanm | Kriminel: this is your actualy failure: newaliases: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter default_privs: user nobody has privileged user ID |
| 13:27.33 | uwjesd_ | babilen: I am looking for the cli-program named asoundconf that is mentioned in the one or other alsa tutorial. It is supposed to do things like allowing me to choose which sound-card is active. |
| 13:27.47 | Kriminel | jordanm: thank you any idea how can i fix that? Also "111.ldconfig: /usr/lib/libnum.so.1 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start." is thrown a lot, anything i can do about that? |
| 13:28.56 | jordanm | Kriminel: delete it or install a working copy |
| 13:28.57 | _ramo | is there a debian backport pkg for qemu version 0.14 ? |
| 13:28.57 | Gadien | EmleyMoor: Really.. everytime I give Debian the keys to the MBR It makes itself the default OS, whereas currently I have control of which OS gets booted by default.. I just don't want to be stuck with it if I can't get an Internet connection.. |
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| 13:29.14 | jordanm | ,file libnum.so.1 |
| 13:29.19 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 13:29.26 | jordanm | Kriminel: not part of debian |
| 13:30.00 | Kriminel | jordanm i started seeing those errors after "apt-get install gcc" |
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| 13:30.16 | babilen | !tell uwjesd_ -about asoundconf |
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| 13:30.22 | jelly | Kriminel: pastebin the outputs of "file /usr/lib/libnum.so.1*" and "ls -ld usr/lib/libnum.so.1*" |
| 13:30.27 | babilen | uwjesd_: That are messages from the past :) |
| 13:31.02 | jordanm | Kriminel: what version of debian are you running? |
| 13:31.03 | jelly | Kriminel: sorry, there was a typo "file /usr/lib/libnum.so.1*; ls -ld /usr/lib/libnum.so.1*" |
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| 13:32.05 | Kriminel | jelly: http://pastebin.com/9a3h3sMz |
| 13:32.13 | babilen | recommends http://paste.debian.net |
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| 13:32.39 | jelly | Kriminel: that's somewhat suspicious. Can you pastebin the contents of that file? |
| 13:32.40 | jordanm | erm.. what? |
| 13:32.42 | Kriminel | jordanm: Debian 6 32bit |
| 13:32.59 | jelly | Kriminel: cat /usr/lib/libnum.so.1 |
| 13:33.07 | uwjesd_ | You removed software so you don't have to fix it? God why? I am buying a Mac. |
| 13:33.18 | jelly | Kriminel: or less /usr/lib/libnum.so.1 |
| 13:33.33 | babilen | uwjesd_: Ok, have fun! |
| 13:34.03 | uwjesd_ | babilen: Have fun "fixing bugs" as you call it. |
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| 13:34.15 | Kriminel | jelly: http://pastebin.com/EJiwcd7k |
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| 13:34.23 | babilen | uwjesd_: No, I hope you have fun buying an Apple computer and using OSX. |
| 13:34.38 | Gadien | squeeze-custom-i386-0315.iso "netboot-i386-0315.tar.gz "10.4MB"" Is that enough for a netboot? |
| 13:34.45 | jelly | Kriminel: your machine has malware. I strongly suggest a clean reinstallation. |
| 13:35.19 | Kriminel | oh wow really? its a blank VPS installed automatically a few days ago |
| 13:35.30 | Kriminel | i'll let them know! thank you! |
| 13:35.47 | jordanm | that kind of damage would have been caused by a root-level compromise |
| 13:36.04 | jordanm | installations in /usr/lib/ |
| 13:36.04 | jelly | Kriminel: either the installation image was dirty already, or it got exploited in that timeframe. |
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| 13:38.11 | Kriminel | jordanm, jelly: ok i'm requesting a reinstall, thank you very much for your help! |
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| 13:45.34 | muenchhausen | Hi there. I'm troubleshooting a debian system regarding some mail errors and found that the system is sending mails to a former admin. Somewhere a redirection to the former admins mail address seems to be happening but I just can't find it |
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| 13:46.14 | jordanm | muenchhausen: /etc/aliases? |
| 13:47.16 | muenchhausen | Jordanm: he's not in there, I updated those files. Anyway, somewhere his mail address must be stored, but I don't know where. He doesn't have an account |
| 13:48.10 | jordanm | muenchhausen: did you run newaliases after updating it? a user account can have a locat .forward file |
| 13:48.29 | jordanm | muenchhausen: what do the mail logs indicate? who was the email originally destined to? |
| 13:48.39 | muenchhausen | I did run newaliases |
| 13:48.45 | muenchhausen | original destination was root |
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| 13:49.17 | muenchhausen | to=<...@gmail.com>, orig_to=<root@... |
| 13:49.19 | jelly | muenchhausen: which MTA? |
| 13:49.26 | muenchhausen | postfix |
| 13:49.39 | babilen | Kriminel: Feel free to pop into #debian-offtopic if you heard something about it from your hoster. (just curious) |
| 13:50.14 | jelly | muenchhausen: pastebin your "postconf -n" and complete run of one message showing the issue from /var/log/mail.log |
| 13:50.24 | jordanm | muenchhausen: /root/.forward? I don't use postfix so I don't know specific alias lcations |
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| 13:51.41 | muenchhausen | there's no /root/.forward |
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| 13:53.32 | muenchhausen | I checked and updated both alias files (we have a /etc/postfix/map_aliases), no luck. What I find curious is: local_recipient_maps = $alias_maps,unix:passwd.byname |
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| 13:53.51 | muenchhausen | not sure what the unix part means |
| 13:54.04 | ImAHeadache | hey... i could need a program to virtualise my computer. Someone know one? |
| 13:55.06 | jordanm | !tell ImAHeadache about virtualization |
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| 13:57.32 | ImAHeadache | awsome |
| 13:57.41 | ImAHeadache | which one can you recommend? |
| 13:58.11 | ImAHeadache | i install a windows xp on it to play computer games |
| 13:58.43 | jordanm | wine will work better than that for gaming. 3D support in VMs is not good |
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| 14:04.29 | ImAHeadache | i dont care about wine! wine is a excellent way to compromise a Debian. i want a VM |
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| 14:05.07 | jordanm | virtualbox is good for desktop virtualization |
| 14:05.14 | ChrisH | uses Virtualbox on Desktop and ESX on Serverside |
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| 14:05.56 | ImAHeadache | ChrisH, thx <3 |
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| 14:07.10 | muenchhausen | possibly found it.. there was a third alias file, which was empty, but it seems like the hash file still contained the former admin |
| 14:07.49 | muenchhausen | or not... just took a while to start again |
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| 14:08.08 | muenchhausen | maybe a secondary program is the cause.. |
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| 14:11.01 | jhutchins_wk | muenchhausen: That looks like it's trying to use NIS to map mail users. |
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| 14:12.48 | martianixor | hi, guys those who had long time experimenting with backing up servers, I'm trying to automated the process, any recommendations :) |
| 14:13.10 | martianixor | s/automated/automate/g |
| 14:14.13 | nsadmin | martianixor, way wayyy too vague. be sicco, especially specific, complete and informative about your situation |
| 14:14.20 | babilen | martianixor: Use something like backuppc, burp, obnam, amanda, rdiff-backup, ... (or another of the million backup tools that are available) |
| 14:14.29 | martianixor | unfortunately I'm not the one who put services/software packages there so I'll have to look throughly what's on there etc .. |
| 14:14.40 | babilen | martianixor: But you might want to clarify what you want to backup and what your requirements are. |
| 14:14.59 | nsadmin | Is there a backup plan in place? |
| 14:15.05 | martianixor | nsadmin: :D nope |
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| 14:15.15 | nsadmin | that should be your starting point |
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| 14:15.26 | martianixor | it was all done manually rsync etc etc |
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| 14:15.51 | nsadmin | wait, so you do have a way you used to back up? |
| 14:16.01 | martianixor | nsadmin: I know, that's what I'm trying to do now, actually I'm in the process of collecting some info on what the heck is there in the first place to be backed up |
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| 14:16.49 | martianixor | nsadmin: not me, I was told that it was done manually and they don't care anymore backups "tarballs" are rendered unusable |
| 14:16.51 | nsadmin | one way: there is the installed system, divided into programs and libs and configuration files |
| 14:17.02 | nsadmin | then, there is your original material |
| 14:17.26 | nsadmin | the question being, how often for each? |
| 14:18.00 | muenchhausen | jhutchins_wk, what does this mean? |
| 14:18.09 | nsadmin | note that you can have a backup plan whether you execute that plan automatically or manually |
| 14:18.17 | martianixor | nsadmin: well, the problem is it was amateurishly done, so I'll start from absolute scratch |
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| 14:19.12 | martianixor | nsadmin: I think the problem is that no body knows anymore what's there and what are the things that should be backed up |
| 14:19.49 | nsadmin | then you have a step before creating the plan |
| 14:20.02 | martianixor | nsadmin: and hence the tarballs are unusable nothing can be recovered or listed from those, so it's a fresh start :D |
| 14:20.07 | martianixor | nsadmin: exactly |
| 14:20.51 | martianixor | nsadmin: I'm trying to collect info, I just don't want to do it stupidly I need to automate this process just exactly like having an automated backup plan |
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| 14:22.25 | martianixor | nsadmin: so the question in hand I guess is, Is there someway/tool to collect info instead of looking manually for things to backup |
| 14:23.23 | martianixor | I'm asking cause I'm sure someone got into such situation before, and tried to re-organize stuff, and automate, then plan then automate backup execution |
| 14:23.29 | nsadmin | you may wish to perform a full manual backup of everything just for peace of mind, then determine what is there (as you say) and form a plan (a "plan" is a list of the steps to back up each section, which can be hand-written) that backs up the whole thing in sections, and then determine how often/when each section is backed up |
| 14:23.52 | martianixor | nsadmin: well, I guess clonezilla is what came handy for this :) |
| 14:24.03 | jhutchins_wk | muenchhausen: It means that the centralized login system is being used to identify mail accounts. You have NIS set up and ypbind is running. |
| 14:24.04 | ImAHeadache | Hey i just wanted to say thank you! You guys here made the OS of my dreams possible :) |
| 14:24.41 | nsadmin | dreamsos |
| 14:24.56 | nsadmin | mcdonalds secret sauce? |
| 14:25.15 | ImAHeadache | I got a decent debian stable on 1 harddrive to work and a messed up slackware on the other to play around with :P |
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| 14:26.19 | muenchhausen | jhutchins_wk, can't find ypbind. We likely didn't set it up if it isn't set up by default. |
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| 14:29.59 | Ali | Hello :) |
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| 14:30.28 | Ali | Could anyone tell me which chapters should I study from "Operating System Concepts", If I wish to study linux's source code. |
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| 14:31.36 | Delf | Whats going on. My kern.log.1 is 1gb :S |
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| 14:35.16 | Ali | anyone here ? :D |
| 14:35.34 | muenchhausen | funky.. I sent two test mails, it looked like the first one wouldn't arrive. About four hours later it arrived after all |
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| 14:36.16 | muenchhausen | Ali, what's your goal? |
| 14:36.17 | Ali | congratulation :D |
| 14:36.34 | Ali | I wanted to ask a few questions about Operating Systems. |
| 14:37.12 | Ali | I am developing a simulator for my OS course, and I wish to contribute to an open source project this summer. |
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| 14:37.24 | mikkelb | Hello everyone - are there any music producers around? |
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| 14:37.44 | martianixor | nsadmin: do you recommend something else cloning the entire disk? |
| 14:37.53 | muenchhausen | mikkelb, kind of |
| 14:38.13 | nsadmin | martianixor, for which part? |
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| 14:38.21 | Ali | This was my original question: Could anyone tell me which chapters should I study from "Operating System Concepts", If I wish to study linux's source code. |
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| 14:39.00 | mikkelb | muenchhausen: nice |
| 14:39.09 | nsadmin | I'm just recommending two things: 1, backup the whole thing in a way it can be restored so that you don't have to worry, and 2, create a backup plan |
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| 14:39.16 | muenchhausen | Ali, I don't know that book. Guess you should at least know the rough structure and know which part you're interested in |
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| 14:39.27 | mikkelb | well the thing is, I just created this: http://soundcloud.com/groups/open-source-producers |
| 14:39.32 | mikkelb | this group is gonna be HUGE |
| 14:39.35 | rasusto | Ali: just download the actual source code |
| 14:39.39 | jordanm | Ali: understanding the linux kernel goes in depth with how the kernel works |
| 14:39.44 | mikkelb | and its gonna show how good music can also be made using free software |
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| 14:39.50 | jordanm | its a pretty large book though |
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| 14:39.58 | nsadmin | yes, and linux source is so wonderfully commented... |
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| 14:40.00 | nsadmin | NOT... |
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| 14:40.12 | muenchhausen | mikkelb, there are already a couple of guys on soundcloud |
| 14:40.13 | martianixor | nsadmin: well, with the current setup there's no way on earth to backup the entire thing without worrying, cause for instance code is updated on daily basis |
| 14:40.15 | Trewas | Ali: with 15 million lines of code in linux kernel I think you should first decide which actual part of the kernel code you want to check |
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| 14:40.27 | mikkelb | muenchhausen: really? |
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| 14:40.31 | mikkelb | who? |
| 14:40.32 | Ali | I am a noob at this lol. |
| 14:40.52 | nsadmin | martianixor, which would suggest you need a backup plan :) |
| 14:40.55 | Ali | I am fairly good with C/C++ though. Can't seem to understand where to start. |
| 14:40.56 | x0x | what different is in current/arch-latest build ? |
| 14:40.57 | martianixor | nsadmin: and one can't be sure in the current situation whatelse needs to be backed up |
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| 14:41.21 | rasusto | Ali: Read understanding the linux kernel from oreilly media |
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| 14:41.36 | jordanm | I already suggested that.. |
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| 14:42.11 | nsadmin | martianixor, start with the assumption that if something catastrophic happens and all media is completely destroyed, you will need to (buy new drives and computers and) restore from the backup |
| 14:42.22 | martianixor | nsadmin: haha yeah of course, but as I mentioned it's the second step, first I'm trying to automate the process for kind of collecting detailed info on inventory |
| 14:42.24 | muenchhausen | mikkelb, I don't have any link at hand, but subscribe to linux-audio-user http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/ and say hi ;) |
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| 14:42.47 | Ali | Got it! tnx. |
| 14:42.51 | nsadmin | second step after what? |
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| 14:43.08 | Ali | Also, could anyone sum up the main differences between linux and debian-linux? |
| 14:43.16 | martianixor | nsadmin: after collecting info on what actually need to be backed up |
| 14:43.22 | Ali | Why do the red-hat guys don't use debian? |
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| 14:43.34 | nsadmin | Ali, debian linux is named debian... |
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| 14:43.58 | martianixor | nsadmin: I mean there're software packages that are no longer needed, either cause a project has reached its end or canceled |
| 14:44.03 | mikkelb | thanks muenchhausen |
| 14:44.20 | nsadmin | so the comparison questions should be directed elsewhere... like a general linux channel |
| 14:44.22 | ChibaPet | Ali, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution |
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| 14:44.35 | Ali | Alright :) |
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| 14:44.46 | waza-ari | Hey all. I need to create a debian package just containing a shell script (to be copied to /usr/bin) and a cronjob. I never build a package before, can anyone help me with that easy? task? Thanks in advance |
| 14:44.47 | Ali | Thanks everyone :) |
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| 14:45.21 | nsadmin | waza-ari, you could start with the packaging manual |
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| 14:45.46 | nsadmin | waza-ari, also look at the hello package... read all files in the source package |
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| 14:46.07 | martianixor | nsadmin: I know this is bizarre but obviously there's no documentation whatsoever |
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| 14:47.09 | nsadmin | determining what is to be backed up is a separate decision process... what you should do first is create a plan that backs up everything |
| 14:47.18 | nsadmin | anyway, I'm out for awhile |
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| 14:47.46 | waza-ari | nsadmin: packaging manual covers mainly building packages from source / tarball. Just need a shell script packaged... |
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| 14:48.04 | martianixor | nsadmin: :) OK thanks alot, I hope I didn't annoy you, with persistence |
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| 14:48.38 | nsadmin | martianixor, no, you just blinded me with science... |
| 14:48.51 | Delf | How do I stop logging network packets? |
| 14:49.08 | nsadmin | how did you start? |
| 14:49.31 | Delf | That's the thing. I have no freakking idea. I'm guessing it's firestarter? |
| 14:49.40 | jordanm | where is it being logged to? |
| 14:49.44 | nsadmin | that could be |
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| 14:50.18 | nsadmin | firestarter probably uses iptables and iptables rules can log |
| 14:50.30 | Delf | kern.log and messages |
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| 14:50.51 | jordanm | Delf: yes, probably iptables if its going to the kmesg buffer |
| 14:50.57 | martianixor | nsadmin: looks like you have a good taste in music ... |
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| 14:51.10 | Delf | how do I stop iptables from logging? |
| 14:51.10 | jordanm | Delf: remove log actions from your iptables rules |
| 14:51.22 | jordanm | Delf: remove the rules which log |
| 14:51.39 | Delf | I've never touched iptables. Not familiar with it. |
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| 14:52.08 | jordanm | !tell Delf about iptables |
| 14:52.40 | martianixor | Delf: you better off trying things on your machine first, so you wouldn't block yourself out of the system |
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| 14:53.06 | martianixor | Delf: In case the server is remote |
| 14:53.14 | mikkelb | anyway im out |
| 14:53.20 | Delf | martianixor: Problem is, I'm using a win7. The server is Debian wheezy. |
| 14:53.28 | jordanm | i doubt it if he used firestarter, which is a gui |
| 14:53.41 | jordanm | oh, guess I was wrong... |
| 14:53.43 | mikkelb | Remember! If you love good music, start making it and share your tracks at I'm trying to allow users add a password to open up a user account after guest checkouts: https://gist.github.com/2398855 - what should I do next though? |
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| 14:54.20 | mikkelb | Remember! If you love good music, start making it and share your tracks at soundcloud.com/groups/open-source-producers today! |
| 14:54.28 | jordanm | Delf: "server" and "testing" don't go well together |
| 14:54.49 | martianixor | Delf: agree |
| 14:54.54 | Delf | jordanm: It's not server? I'm just using as a server :P |
| 14:55.00 | martianixor | Delf: I agree with jordanm I meant |
| 14:55.01 | Delf | what should I use? |
| 14:55.10 | nsadmin | martianixor, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y26Jce7JE0 |
| 14:55.11 | martianixor | Delf: a virtualbox |
| 14:55.11 | jordanm | squeeze - stable |
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| 14:55.35 | nsadmin | slightly different :) |
| 14:55.37 | martianixor | Delf: for testing things out on your Win7 |
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| 14:56.24 | martianixor | nsadmin: checking it out ;) |
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| 14:58.09 | crose | hello I'm trying to compile smartmontool 5.42 from sources but after 'make install' i've got the error 'make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.' |
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| 14:58.49 | jordanm | ,versions smartmontools |
| 14:58.50 | judd | Package: smartmontools on i386 -- lenny: 5.38-2+lenny1; lenny-backports: 5.39.1+svn3124-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 5.39.1+svn3124-2; squeeze-backports: 5.41+svn3365-1~bpo60+1; sid: 5.41+svn3365-1; wheezy: 5.41+svn3365-1 |
| 14:59.09 | jordanm | crose: what does .42 offer that .41 doesn't have? |
| 14:59.24 | nsadmin | .01 |
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| 15:00.09 | crose | jordanm : nothing but whenever I try to compile something it fails so I thougt it would be a good occasion to learn something new |
| 15:00.31 | Delf | I'm unable to find the iptables rules file |
| 15:00.49 | jordanm | Delf: did you read the documentation that dpkg sent you? |
| 15:00.57 | Delf | yes |
| 15:01.08 | Delf | http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 15:01.09 | nsadmin | Delf, sometimes a script can -generate- rules |
| 15:01.20 | Delf | where would it put them? |
| 15:01.23 | jordanm | crose: well, there is no "install" target in the Makefile. did you read the install docs? |
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| 15:01.52 | jordanm | Delf: that's probably firestarter dependant |
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| 15:02.35 | jordanm | crose: if its using a build system like GNU autotools, you need to run something like "./configure --prefix=/usr/local" first |
| 15:02.40 | martianixor | nsadmin: that's definitely different, I like improvising |
| 15:02.53 | jordanm | that generates the Makefile from Makefile.am and friends |
| 15:04.35 | nsadmin | martianixor, scott is pretty good at that |
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| 15:06.08 | kish | please tell me all i need to do to get debian to a usb stick and ready to install is a simple dd of the iso image |
| 15:06.42 | crose | jordanm: the "./configure ..." didn't help, I'm going to read the INSTALL file, thank you. |
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| 15:07.08 | giovaxt600 | ciao a tutti |
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| 15:07.17 | giovaxt600 | list |
| 15:07.46 | giovaxt600 | !list |
| 15:07.46 | dpkg | giovaxt600: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
| 15:08.07 | kish | !dd |
| 15:08.08 | dpkg | hmm... dd is an abbreviation for Debian Developer, or a utility for the low-level copying and conversion of raw data: man dd, dd if=/foo/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 to produce a bootable floppy, dd if=/dev/hdc of=image.iso to make an image of a CD/DVD. See also <win32 dd>, <ddrescue>, <gddrescue>. |
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| 15:21.24 | HideMe | How can I tell if I'm using Grub2 or not? |
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| 15:24.43 | jordanm | HideMe: apt-cache policy grub2 |
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| 15:25.58 | HideMe | jordanm Is there no version command? |
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| 15:29.28 | nsadmin | HideMe I think that was it |
| 15:30.08 | nsadmin | try dpkg -s grub-pc |
| 15:30.32 | nsadmin | then you have version and a lot of other stuff |
| 15:30.37 | nsadmin | like Status |
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| 15:31.01 | HideMe | well I know it's installed.... just wnat to confirm it's grub2 not legacy. |
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| 15:32.07 | nsadmin | what is it that you know is installed? |
| 15:32.13 | nsadmin | grub-pc? |
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| 15:32.29 | HideMe | Not sure... just did an upgrade from 5 to 6. |
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| 15:32.50 | babilen | HideMe: Could you paste the output of "aptitude versions '~i~ngrub'" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 15:32.51 | nsadmin | I see, so you haven't run that command yet |
| 15:32.58 | HideMe | According to your suggestion, grub is 1.98, which is ver 2. |
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| 15:34.03 | sim_ | hi |
| 15:34.14 | nsadmin | look in /boot/grub... do you see stage1, stage2, lotsa stage1.5s and menu.lst? |
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| 15:35.25 | HideMe | nsadmin, No stage*. |
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| 15:36.39 | nsadmin | ok, do you see menu.lst? |
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| 15:37.09 | HideMe | nsadmin, Nope. |
| 15:37.43 | nsadmin | do you see a lot of *.mod? |
| 15:38.04 | HideMe | Which I shouldn't... since I deleted it after my "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" |
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| 15:38.17 | HideMe | nsadmin, Yes. |
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| 15:38.23 | nsadmin | you have grub2 |
| 15:38.29 | HideMe | okay thanks |
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| 15:39.24 | masterkorp | hello, on squeeze i just installed bundler with gem isntall bundler |
| 15:39.31 | masterkorp | but i cant run it |
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| 15:40.18 | cyfi | hey, I'm looking to install arora on Debian squeeze. I downloaded arora_0.10.2-2_i386.deb and I'm getting depend errors. how can I downgrade or upgrade libqt4webkit. |
| 15:40.31 | cyfi | arora depends on libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3); however:Package libqt4-network:i386 is not installed. |
| 15:41.23 | nsadmin | masterkorp, I've never been a fan of the ruby debian packages, I've always built it myself and it has consistantly worked whereas the packages consistantly did not |
| 15:41.29 | movl | cyfi: why not install from the repos? |
| 15:41.42 | cyfi | I install iceweasal-arora, but this isn't what I wanted. I want minimal arora |
| 15:41.48 | cyfi | I tried, it failed, same error |
| 15:41.52 | abrotman | aurora ? |
| 15:41.58 | cyfi | yes |
| 15:42.11 | masterkorp | nsadmin: with rvm ? |
| 15:42.13 | abrotman | cyfi: see mozilla.debian.net .. follow those insructions, much easier |
| 15:42.29 | cyfi | I did already |
| 15:42.40 | nsadmin | what's rvm? |
| 15:42.59 | cyfi | I don't want iceweasel-aurora |
| 15:43.01 | abrotman | cyfi: not if you're getting that error .. reivew the instructions again |
| 15:43.08 | abrotman | i just asked you if you meant aurora |
| 15:43.10 | cyfi | I just want aurora |
| 15:43.12 | abrotman | you said yes ... |
| 15:43.22 | cyfi | is this the same thing? |
| 15:43.28 | nsadmin | I did ./configure ; make ; make install (with some parameters on the configure step) |
| 15:43.35 | abrotman | cyfi: where did you download 'arora' from ? |
| 15:43.49 | nsadmin | always worked where the debian packages never worked so far |
| 15:44.13 | masterkorp | nsadmin: its a ruby version manager |
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| 15:44.23 | masterkorp | nsadmin: http://beginrescueend.com/ |
| 15:44.23 | cyfi | I forget where I downloaded arora_0.10.2-2_i386.deb, some debian site |
| 15:44.37 | abrotman | cyfi: that's not very hepful |
| 15:44.47 | cyfi | sorry |
| 15:44.48 | nsadmin | no, I don't remember using that |
| 15:45.01 | cyfi | but there is a minimal arora browser ?? |
| 15:45.01 | abrotman | cyfi: try `apt-get -f install` |
| 15:45.29 | cyfi | The following packages will be REMOVED: arora |
| 15:45.50 | abrotman | cyfi: apt-get -f install arora ? |
| 15:46.12 | cyfi | Package 'arora' has no installation candidate |
| 15:46.22 | abrotman | not really sure why you're not installing this like a sane person to start with .. |
| 15:46.36 | abrotman | cyfi: put your /etc/apt/sources.list at paste.debian.net |
| 15:46.54 | cyfi | l |
| 15:46.59 | cyfi | k |
| 15:47.49 | cyfi | http://paste.debian.net/163537/ |
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| 15:48.31 | abrotman | cyfi: uncomment lines 6 and 17 |
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| 15:48.35 | cyfi | I've tried many different source files |
| 15:48.38 | cyfi | k |
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| 15:49.26 | abrotman | that's a messed up sources.list |
| 15:49.28 | abrotman | not good |
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| 15:50.23 | cyfi | why is it messed up |
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| 15:52.00 | cyfi | so, done updating.. |
| 15:52.03 | codepal | any ideas on why root might not be able to run: shutdown now -r ?? |
| 15:52.08 | abrotman | you shouldn't have stable/unstable/expermental/lucid in one sources.list |
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| 15:52.15 | abrotman | codepal: / is r/o ? |
| 15:52.29 | codepal | I assume it's disabled, just don't know how |
| 15:52.42 | codepal | abrotman, no - hdd is not read-only |
| 15:52.55 | codepal | this is on an in-production web server |
| 15:53.13 | codepal | and I can't reboot it!! |
| 15:53.19 | abrotman | codepal: / .. not the hdd |
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| 15:53.28 | abrotman | codepal: shutdown -r -f -d ? |
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| 15:53.37 | karlpinc | cyfi: For why things are messed up, see footnote 1 of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware |
| 15:55.03 | codepal | abrotman, looks like fail2ban might have locked me out of ssh :`( |
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| 15:55.34 | cyfi | karlpinc: yeah, I usually do follow footnote 1. |
| 15:55.35 | codepal | so I won't be trying anything until I get a response from the server hosting IT support team |
| 15:55.42 | karlpinc | codepal: Perhaps shutdown is picky and wants the time ("now") to come after the options ("-r"). Dunno. (I'm not going to try it on my box right now to find out.) ?? |
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| 15:56.42 | movl | shutdown needs the time |
| 15:56.48 | movl | it's mandatory |
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| 15:58.01 | abrotman | codepal: whoops |
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| 15:58.22 | movl | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.24 | codepal | abrotman, yeah, bad news - getting 502's from nginx and no way to fix it |
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| 15:58.53 | codepal | pity the rest of New Zealand is asleep, otherwise I could get this fixed so I can do some early morning work.... |
| 15:58.57 | codepal | so much for my plans |
| 15:59.26 | codepal | goes back to bed |
| 16:00.11 | abrotman | hhe |
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| 16:04.40 | ImAHeadache | is it possible to run html5 on deb stable? |
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| 16:05.28 | babilen | ImAHeadache: You can install newer IW versions from http://mozilla.debian.net if that is what you are asking. |
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| 16:08.21 | ImAHeadache | babilen, im not quite sure... i would like to be able watching youtube without flash. If i also can play browsergames it would be great but it is not really necersary |
| 16:09.21 | babilen | ImAHeadache: Sounds as if all you really need is just a newer Icweasel (i.e. Firefox) than the version in stable from http://mozilla.debian.net |
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| 16:09.49 | babilen | Not entirely sure what you need for WebM though -- You might have to enable that explicitly somewhere. |
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| 16:10.57 | ImAHeadache | babilen, never mind... its not that important. I will have a look and play around a little... |
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| 16:15.49 | cyfi | http://pkgs.org/debian-squeeze/debian-main-i386/arora_0.10.2-1_i386.deb.html <-- abrotman this is the file I was trying to install |
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| 16:16.54 | movl | cyfi: so again, why not install from the repo? |
| 16:17.07 | movl | and be careful that aurora != arora |
| 16:17.07 | cyfi | It's not letting me.. |
| 16:17.17 | movl | what message? |
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| 16:17.27 | cyfi | E: Unable to locate package aurora |
| 16:17.30 | cyfi | er |
| 16:17.41 | cyfi | er |
| 16:17.42 | cyfi | E: Package 'arora' has no installation candidate |
| 16:17.48 | sheep | you don't use apt to install a .deb. you use dpkg -i |
| 16:17.58 | cyfi | sheep: I know this.. |
| 16:18.26 | movl | cyfi: that is because your sources.list is a mess |
| 16:18.49 | abrotman | cyfi: did you apt-get update ? |
| 16:19.04 | cyfi | yes I did |
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| 16:20.41 | cyfi | Package arora is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 16:21.49 | movl | did you change sources,list? |
| 16:21.58 | cyfi | yes |
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| 16:22.21 | movl | could you paste it somewhere as it is now? |
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| 16:22.32 | cyfi | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 16:22.40 | movl | not here] |
| 16:22.44 | movl | c'mon... |
| 16:22.46 | cyfi | only has those two lines |
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| 16:23.07 | movl | well how do you expect things to work? |
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| 16:23.46 | cyfi | wait, what are those only updates ? |
| 16:24.15 | movl | yes, there are only updates |
| 16:25.34 | babilen | !tell cyfi -about make squeeze sources.list |
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| 16:32.51 | cyfi | http://paste.debian.net/163545/ |
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| 16:33.54 | movl | did you update after changing the sources,list? |
| 16:34.03 | cyfi | yes |
| 16:34.31 | movl | and how does that file look now? |
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| 16:35.46 | cyfi | http://paste.debian.net/163546/ |
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| 16:36.24 | movl | add contrib, non-free and update |
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| 16:38.15 | cyfi | so like this? http://paste.debian.net/163547/ |
| 16:39.10 | movl | lines 1 and 3 are redundant |
| 16:39.14 | movl | the rest is ok |
| 16:39.55 | movl | plus security, of course |
| 16:40.31 | movl | cyfi: http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ |
| 16:40.33 | anoob | i would like to remove compiled subversion: http://pastebin.com/5GjQ9BCc |
| 16:40.39 | anoob | nothing happens with make uninstall |
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| 16:40.54 | movl | anoob: make deinstall? |
| 16:41.28 | anoob | movl, it doesn't work too |
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| 16:41.59 | abrotman | movl: that site makes it way too easy to make a crappy sources.list |
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| 16:42.20 | somiaj | anoob: check the makefile, if they don't provde an uninstall or similar script you will have to look at what the 'install' did and undo it |
| 16:42.37 | anoob | somiaj, bad thing |
| 16:42.42 | anoob | somiaj, thanks, i'll check it |
| 16:43.03 | kleanchap | I have 2 seperate Hard disks. There is a folder on both the disk which I want to sync without deleting any files. I would prefer the most recent file over write the old one. Are there any tools to do this. At the end, it should be comparing apples and apples. |
| 16:43.11 | movl | abrotman: you mean all those 3rd party crap repos? |
| 16:43.15 | somiaj | anoob: in the future you may want to look into gnu stow, its a nice tool for manainging source installs in /usr/local so you don't have to rely on them having an uninstall option. |
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| 16:46.09 | gnugr | cyfi:fix your sources.list like this "http://paste.kde.org/458744/" |
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| 16:47.56 | abrotman | movl: yes |
| 16:48.01 | abrotman | gnugr: he already has one .. don't confuse him |
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| 16:48.13 | K|nG | Hi, I install apache2 with php but there when I use anyfile *.php there show me to download and php looks like isn`t working |
| 16:48.51 | gnugr | abrotman:i do not confuse him........ |
| 16:49.10 | abrotman | gnugr: yes, you do .. he didn't ask for Aurora .. he's been given mlutiple sources.list .. stop confusing him |
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| 16:49.17 | somiaj | K|nG: how did you install apache with php? Sounds lke you need to update your httpd.conf file to parse php files correctly |
| 16:49.59 | K|nG | somiaj: can you please explain me what I should add to httpd.conf, And to install i`v used apt-get install apache2, I install mysql and php perl python |
| 16:50.23 | somiaj | K|nG: what php package did you install? (I thought it got updated automatically) |
| 16:50.45 | K|nG | somiaj: php5 yes there is updated every package |
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| 16:51.25 | abrotman | K|nG: did you install libapache2-mod-php5? did you try a different browser? tried clearing your cache? try with wget? |
| 16:51.44 | K|nG | abrotman: I tryed all those things |
| 16:51.46 | K|nG | ain`t work |
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| 16:52.00 | abrotman | K|nG: all? |
| 16:52.04 | somiaj | K|nG: php5 is just a meta package that could dependon on one of a few multiple php installs. 'dpkg -l | grep php' -- which php packages do you have installed? |
| 16:52.30 | abrotman | K|nG: a2enmod php5 ? |
| 16:52.36 | somiaj | I belive the documentation in /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-php5 should tell you the changes needed to the httpd.conf file (again I'm surprised it didn't update this for you) |
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| 16:53.01 | abrotman | he shouldn't have to make any changes .. it should happen for him |
| 16:53.05 | K|nG | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/XbfGv2Sy |
| 16:53.16 | K|nG | abramart: I typed that and to me show Alredy running |
| 16:53.36 | K|nG | abrotman: Module php5 already enabled |
| 16:53.37 | abrotman | K|nG: restart apache? |
| 16:54.08 | K|nG | abrotman: again same |
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| 16:54.20 | K|nG | abrotman: Do I need to configure anything at httpd.conf |
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| 16:54.29 | abrotman | K|nG: are you using the default, or your own ? |
| 16:54.40 | K|nG | abrotman: I am using default one |
| 16:55.06 | abrotman | K|nG: should be fine then .. check your apache log/error log to see if something else might be going on .. and really, double check with wget instead of a browser |
| 16:56.19 | somiaj | only thing I saw is could the php5-cgi package cause a conflict with the libapache2-mod-php5 and not configuring his httpd.conf correctly. |
| 16:56.59 | abrotman | he could probably safely remove it |
| 16:57.04 | abrotman | the -cgi i mean |
| 16:57.14 | abrotman | but his logs hsould tell him if something is out of whack in that respect i'd think |
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| 17:12.17 | Serious_Sam | Hi there! How can I download original ICQ client under Linux? Please anybody try: http://www.icq.com/download/linux/ru |
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| 17:12.55 | izua | what is the name of the boot font that comes with squeeze? it has the acolade symbols ( '{' and '}' ) almost equal width, instead of having a pointy middle tip. the best i can describe them in asciiart is UUU, rotated either 90 degrees cw or ccw. |
| 17:13.10 | izua | i would like to use this font in other apps for monospace, but i can't find in the system fonts. |
| 17:13.14 | fabiobik | does anyone have issues with chrome displaying facebook? |
| 17:13.16 | somiaj | Serious_Sam: and this is a #debian support question because? Sounds like you should work ask for icq to support their client. |
| 17:15.22 | fabiobik | does anyone have issues with chrome displaying facebook? |
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| 17:16.36 | Serious_Sam | somiaj: can you try install it please (I gave a link)? |
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| 17:17.39 | Serious_Sam | somiaj: I press a button and nothing happens |
| 17:17.49 | Serious_Sam | button "Download" |
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| 17:19.15 | somiaj | Serious_Sam: no we will not support some unknown thrid party non-free software. |
| 17:19.29 | somiaj | Serious_Sam: install pidgin or some debian irc client with aptitude |
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| 17:20.54 | Serious_Sam | somiaj: Ok, thanks |
| 17:22.46 | Mourad` | I want Root free valid 100% give me prve plsssssssssssss /msg Mourad` |
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| 17:35.19 | cyfi | can someone help me fix broken packages. http://paste.debian.net/163550/ |
| 17:36.04 | babilen | ,versions arora |
| 17:36.05 | judd | Package: arora on i386 -- lenny: 0.2-1; squeeze: 0.10.2-1; sid: 0.10.2-2; wheezy: 0.10.2-2 |
| 17:36.08 | cyfi | Is this saying my libqt4-webkit is to new ? |
| 17:36.09 | babilen | !tell cyfi -about bat |
| 17:36.32 | somiaj | cyfi: is the top part your sources.list -- I notice that you do not have any squeeze sources |
| 17:36.57 | babilen | cyfi: Your sources.list is wrong in that you are missing the main mirrors. Please read "/msg dpkg make squeeze sources.list" and include a deb line for "squeeze" |
| 17:37.17 | somiaj | you have squeeze-updates, squeeze/updates, squeeze-proposed-updates but no squeeze. |
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| 17:38.37 | fabiobik | network-manager on xfce??? |
| 17:38.47 | fabiobik | ive installed and i cant see gui |
| 17:38.56 | fabiobik | also my wireless not work |
| 17:39.16 | babilen | fabiobik: You should see an applet in your panel. If not you can start "nm-applet" and it should appear. |
| 17:39.18 | cyfi | oh, I missed two lines. I have http://paste.debian.net/163552/ |
| 17:39.59 | buu | I have kind of an old-school problem here. I'm trying to sync some files from a remote server that are decently large. However when I use scp or wget or similar it only transfers at about 50% of my available bandwidth. Here's the thing though, if I open a second connection, same host, etc, I get another connection also going at 50% of my bandwidth. Are there any very clever tools that will somehow open multiple connections to fetch a file? |
| 17:40.03 | fabiobik | babilen: do you know how to configure my wireless? |
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| 17:42.11 | babilen | fabiobik: Can you use nm-applet right now? Did you install network-manager-gnome too? Please also read http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 17:43.14 | fabiobik | babilen: yeh i can see the nm-applet |
| 17:43.32 | cyfi | so install candidate is there.. It is broken, as mentioned before. Do I need to downgrade libqt4 or what? |
| 17:43.38 | fabiobik | babilen: and yes ive installed network-manager |
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| 17:47.00 | babilen | fabiobik: So, left click on the applet. It should list wireless networks in the vicinity and you can select the one you want to connect to. |
| 17:47.03 | LittleFoot | hi |
| 17:47.10 | LittleFoot | ok guys got debian to work |
| 17:47.22 | LittleFoot | still not all menus r there in administration |
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| 17:47.38 | LittleFoot | but i think it jus comes w less stuff than mint |
| 17:48.25 | LittleFoot | i also found a script to install nvidia kurnal and drivers |
| 17:49.18 | babilen | !tell LittleFoot -about nvidia dkms |
| 17:49.26 | LittleFoot | the script makes it look so easy |
| 17:49.31 | fabiobik | babilen: yeh ty |
| 17:49.43 | cyfi | !tell cyfi -about arora libqt4 |
| 17:49.47 | LittleFoot | not sure y i failed so hard installing it manually from debian instructions |
| 17:50.08 | babilen | LittleFoot: Whatever that script does is probably not a good idea. Please follow the nvidia driver installation procedure our bot (dpkg) told you about. What is your graphic card? |
| 17:50.12 | LittleFoot | all i need now is wine |
| 17:50.19 | LittleFoot | no its a good idea |
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| 17:50.39 | LittleFoot | want to see it? |
| 17:50.40 | cyfi | anything with wine is a bad idea |
| 17:50.45 | LittleFoot | jfc |
| 17:50.47 | LittleFoot | gtfo |
| 17:50.48 | babilen | LittleFoot: How so? Can you paste the script to http://paste.debian.net or give me a link? |
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| 17:50.53 | Tigerboy | I love wine |
| 17:50.54 | LittleFoot | yes |
| 17:50.58 | Tigerboy | Everything with wine. |
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| 17:51.03 | LittleFoot | babilen script looks good |
| 17:51.04 | sidro | !tell sidro pastebin |
| 17:51.11 | LittleFoot | cyfi, is an archaic idiot |
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| 17:51.29 | babilen | LittleFoot: Please refrain from insulting users in this channel. Thank you. |
| 17:51.34 | sidro | !tell sidro pastebin |
| 17:51.34 | cyfi | why not just run windows |
| 17:51.37 | LittleFoot | i h8 who mindlessly argue about stuff |
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| 17:51.51 | babilen | !tell cyfi -about selftell |
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| 17:52.08 | LittleFoot | cyfi, http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqjqfOcABpHGdaQ9VfdTdJ0ONyZ9rUBPCKrCC43ymnhKqJTF0M |
| 17:52.12 | Tigerboy | Winduhs is a very primitive operating system. |
| 17:52.13 | cyfi | you're telling me that running your stupid nvidia driver in wine is a good idea? |
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| 17:53.49 | Tigerboy | Debian based is the way to go. It frees you up in so many ways. It's empowering. |
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| 18:01.20 | edju | Running testing here. Having trouble installing my hp wireless printer printer - cannot connect to device. hp-check shows CUPS DDK not found. It is installed, but says "This is a dummy package to ease transition to new package name." I'm at a loss - do I have it or not? |
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| 18:02.59 | simonlnu | sidro: /msg dpkg factoid. you also left out the 'about' in your requests. |
| 18:03.31 | cyfi | http://paste.debian.net/163553/ is this telling me that libqt4* is bigger than the one needed for arora ? |
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| 18:04.32 | Ede_k | hi all |
| 18:05.34 | Ede_k | can someone explain me the following ? |
| 18:05.36 | Ede_k | root@debian:~# mkdir test |
| 18:05.36 | Ede_k | root@debian:~# cd test |
| 18:05.36 | Ede_k | root@debian:~/test# touch lala |
| 18:05.36 | Ede_k | root@debian:~/test# mkdir lala |
| 18:05.36 | Ede_k | mkdir: cannot create directory `lala': File exists |
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| 18:05.55 | Tigerboy | the thing I can't stand- no ipad support in linux |
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| 18:06.53 | Ede_k | http://paste.debian.net/163554 |
| 18:07.03 | jelly-home | Ede_k: directory entries must have unique names. |
| 18:07.23 | Ede_k | is it debian specific ? |
| 18:07.27 | rozie | no |
| 18:07.38 | Ede_k | on centos6 it works |
| 18:07.39 | jelly-home | Ede_k: it's a unix convention. |
| 18:07.45 | jelly-home | Ede_k: highly unlikely |
| 18:08.19 | rozie | Ede_k: proof it works. I mean, to touch lala; mkdir lala, ls -la lala |
| 18:08.23 | Ede_k | ok, you are right :-) |
| 18:08.42 | Ede_k | but centos doesnt give an error message |
| 18:08.51 | rozie | centos is broken |
| 18:08.51 | Ede_k | sorry :-) |
| 18:08.53 | rozie | report a bug |
| 18:08.57 | rozie | ;) |
| 18:09.01 | Ede_k | :-) |
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| 18:09.10 | Ede_k | thank you very much! |
| 18:09.14 | helo | i am running ARM debian lenny (5.0.7), and i'm unable to get a working sources.list. "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free" gives me a series of "Ign" and then 3 404 errors |
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| 18:09.40 | jelly-home | Ede_k: I find that unlikely as well. Are you really calling /bin/mkdir, or an alias? |
| 18:09.43 | cyfi | http://http <-- looks funny |
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| 18:09.53 | cyfi | helo: but I don't know |
| 18:09.54 | tremon | !lenny |
| 18:09.54 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 18:09.57 | somiaj | helo: lenny is no longer supported and reached its end of life (Check /topic) |
| 18:10.04 | jelly-home | !tell helo about lenny sources.list |
| 18:10.11 | somiaj | helo: this means its on archive.debian.org now (or read the factoid from dpkg) |
| 18:10.17 | Ede_k | jelly-home, on centos ? |
| 18:10.39 | jordanm | Ede_k: type -a mkdir |
| 18:11.04 | Ede_k | /bin/mkdir |
| 18:11.25 | jordanm | Ede_k: what is the output of that command? |
| 18:11.35 | Ede_k | ahhhh |
| 18:11.39 | Ede_k | forget it |
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| 18:12.05 | Ede_k | i first created the directory then touched the file |
| 18:12.30 | Ede_k | when i first touch the file also centos gives that error message! |
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| 18:12.40 | Ede_k | i worked to much today |
| 18:12.42 | Ede_k | sorry! |
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| 18:13.01 | Ede_k | but thank you very much for that fast and friendly support |
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| 18:13.18 | Tigerboy | you touched mkdir? |
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| 18:13.22 | jelly-home | Ede_k: np, have a nice day |
| 18:13.28 | Tigerboy | That's very touching |
| 18:14.22 | MindControl_Frag | gonna sound stupid but I don't suppose someone could hold my hand through getting my older Geforce card working? |
| 18:14.25 | cyfi | Tigerboy: quit touching me there |
| 18:14.35 | Tigerboy | where is there |
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| 18:18.12 | cyfi | http://paste.debian.net/163558/ |
| 18:18.35 | cyfi | what does this mean "Status: deinstall ok config-files" |
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| 18:19.09 | jelly-home | cyfi: the package has been removed, but not purged. There are config files left behind. |
| 18:19.35 | cyfi | so arora has been installed on my system before?? |
| 18:19.42 | jelly-home | apparently so. |
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| 18:20.07 | cyfi | what!! I can't install it now, when I want it. :( |
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| 18:20.43 | cyfi | would updating to gnome 3 shell break qt4 depends for other packages? |
| 18:20.51 | jelly-home | cyfi: which Debian release are you using? |
| 18:20.59 | cyfi | squeeze |
| 18:21.06 | jelly-home | ,versions arora |
| 18:21.07 | judd | Package: arora on i386 -- lenny: 0.2-1; squeeze: 0.10.2-1; sid: 0.10.2-2; wheezy: 0.10.2-2 |
| 18:21.35 | Tigerboy | I have gnome 3 and gnome 2 doing ok on one system. |
| 18:21.50 | jelly-home | cyfi: did you at some point have any newer release configured? |
| 18:21.54 | cyfi | I liked gnome 3 for about a week. |
| 18:22.05 | jelly-home | cyfi: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" |
| 18:22.09 | cyfi | jelly-home: I'm not sure |
| 18:22.11 | cyfi | ok |
| 18:22.39 | cyfi | http://paste.debian.net/163560/ |
| 18:23.03 | Tigerboy | cyfi: there are some nice gnome3 hacks you can try but I too default to the retro desktop- Don't really see a reason to leave it most especially with the restrictive nature of gnome3 |
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| 18:23.36 | jordanm | cyfi: how did you install gnome 3? |
| 18:23.37 | cyfi | Yeah, it was memory issues for me. I went to fluxbox |
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| 18:23.47 | jelly-home | cyfi: looks a-ok, apart from me having no idea what grasehotspot is |
| 18:23.59 | cyfi | jordanm: I forget, probably some guide I followed from google |
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| 18:24.36 | jordanm | following guides from google is one of the top ways to hose a system |
| 18:24.56 | cyfi | grasehotspot was some software for setting up chilli, squid, and uhh.. some other stuff. |
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| 18:25.18 | cyfi | I removed the software, I don't know why its still in repo, its not in my sources.list |
| 18:25.38 | jelly-home | cyfi: purge remaining bits of manually installed arora (dpkg -P arora) and try installing with apt-get again. |
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| 18:25.51 | cyfi | alright |
| 18:26.08 | jelly-home | cyfi: if it fails, pastebin the whole output |
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| 18:26.49 | cyfi | http://paste.debian.net/163564/ |
| 18:27.40 | cyfi | same error, depends. |
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| 18:27.52 | jelly-home | pastebin, please |
| 18:28.09 | cyfi | same error as last |
| 18:28.19 | cyfi | http://paste.debian.net/163565/ |
| 18:28.44 | jelly-home | ,versions libqt4-network |
| 18:28.44 | judd | Package: libqt4-network on i386 -- lenny: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; lenny-security: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; squeeze: 4:4.6.3-4+squeeze1; wheezy: 4:4.7.4-2; sid: 4:4.7.4-3; experimental: 4:4.8.0-1 |
| 18:29.04 | jelly-home | cyfi: do an "apt-get update", try again |
| 18:29.17 | cyfi | is it saying I need bigger version of libqt4-network ? |
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| 18:29.39 | cyfi | I've done many updates and tried. but here goes |
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| 18:30.16 | Delf1 | I'm having segfaults. This can't be good can it? |
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| 18:31.25 | tremon | Delf: not sure if it's good. I tend to crash at least once a day, and dump core with similar regularity |
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| 18:31.53 | jelly-home | cyfi: if it fails again, pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy libc6 arora libqt4-network" |
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| 18:32.06 | cyfi | gotcha |
| 18:32.09 | Delf | Me having segfaults is perfectly fine. I meant my computer! |
| 18:32.21 | Tigerboy | or also apt-get -f install |
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| 18:32.53 | JordiGH | Is there a Debianish way to automatically manage Python modules or eggs? I wish for something like dh-make-perl. I hate having to use language-specific package managers (easy_install or whatever). |
| 18:33.07 | JordiGH | apt should be the One Manager, One apt to rule them all. |
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| 18:33.30 | Tigerboy | is it a one bedroom apt? |
| 18:33.38 | JordiGH | Specifically, I want a debianish way to manage this one: https://bitbucket.org/offline/django-annoying/wiki/Home |
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| 18:34.36 | jelly-home | Tigerboy: try to be helpful and to the point in here, if you want to chat, there's #debian-offtopic or #defocus |
| 18:35.05 | Tigerboy | Oh ok I am trying |
| 18:35.37 | cyfi | jelly-home: http://paste.debian.net/163567/ |
| 18:35.49 | jordanm | JordiGH: just use dh $@ --with python2 |
| 18:36.01 | jordanm | JordiGH: that works with most python module packaging |
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| 18:36.28 | JordiGH | jordanm: In debian/rules, you mean? |
| 18:36.33 | Tigerboy | i was respondint to the "apt to rule them all" comment-and thinking that you couldn't from a 1 br apt |
| 18:36.34 | jelly-home | cyfi: it looks as if you've messed up the system trying to manually install newer packages than what's in squeeze |
| 18:36.36 | jordanm | JordiGH: that uses dh_python2 |
| 18:36.39 | jordanm | JordiGH: yes |
| 18:36.54 | cyfi | jelly-home: :) great |
| 18:37.03 | jelly-home | cyfi: if you want to use squeeze, reinstallation is the simplest way out |
| 18:37.07 | JordiGH | jordanm: I still need to add the minimum debian/* files required. Eh. Maybe I'll implement dh-make-python... |
| 18:37.30 | Tigerboy | Yes there are all kinds of helpful ways to fix it using dpkg and apt |
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| 18:37.34 | JordiGH | I guess dh-make can do the minimum thing, but then I need to clear out the example files... |
| 18:37.35 | jordanm | JordiGH: you can just take the default dh_make and just add --with python2 to the rules file |
| 18:37.49 | Tigerboy | Sometimes you get to where you are better off doing a reinstall |
| 18:37.56 | cyfi | jelly-home: this most likely happened during my manual install of gnome 3 shell |
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| 18:39.18 | cyfi | can I not down grade libc6 and all these other packages easly? |
| 18:39.38 | dvs | !downgrade |
| 18:39.39 | dpkg | [downgrade] Downgrading is not possible with apt-get/aptitude and no future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 18:40.05 | jelly-home | cyfi: see how many packages need it, first: /msg dpkg not available |
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| 18:40.39 | jelly-home | cyfi: if it's more than a dozen or so, it's easier and possibly faster to reinstall |
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| 18:41.49 | cyfi | wait a minute. |
| 18:42.24 | kish | im told i need nonfree drivers |
| 18:42.26 | kish | and i have none |
| 18:42.37 | kish | and i dont have a god damn media |
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| 18:44.21 | acu | hey guys - I want to create groups (ungroup) the GNU.svg - and I do not know how - I use Inkscape - can anyone help ? http://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/File:Heckert_gnu.svg |
| 18:46.10 | nsadmin | doesn't inkscape have group/ungroup menu entries? |
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| 18:46.38 | acu | nsadmin- yes but this gnu.svg is already one object - I want to break it in pieces |
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| 18:49.25 | nsadmin | maybe it's not grouped in the inkscape sense |
| 18:49.51 | nsadmin | maybe you'll have to edit the gnu.svg file as text |
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| 18:53.01 | cyfi | jelly-home: I think I might of fixed my problem. |
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| 18:53.27 | jelly-home | you might have? |
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| 18:53.36 | cyfi | we'll see after libqtcore4-dev gets done downloading |
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| 18:54.29 | cyfi | I removed libqtcore4 now its installing current version for squeeze libqt4-network i386 4:4.6.3-4+squeeze1 |
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| 18:55.42 | cyfi | cool, arora is downloading :) |
| 18:56.38 | cyfi | and it worked. |
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| 19:07.05 | jhutchins_wk | Iridos: #bash concurs, &>> will work in bash4. |
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| 19:08.18 | Iridos | I see |
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| 19:20.08 | MindControl_Frag | how do I fiddle around with my TTY framebuffer resolution now that the vga= option is deprecated in grub2? |
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| 19:20.38 | jelly-home | !win cyfi |
| 19:20.38 | dpkg | Congratulations, cyfi! You have won the US presidency! |
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| 19:21.19 | cyfi | thanks |
| 19:22.05 | cyfi | damn, it really wasn't worth the trouble. |
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| 19:23.15 | marcm | how can I restrict a certain repository to a single folder in that repository? In other words, lets say I just want PHP from a certain repository. How would I do that? |
| 19:24.33 | buu | repository? |
| 19:24.54 | jelly-home | !tell marcm about pinning |
| 19:24.56 | buu | oh |
| 19:24.58 | buu | I see. |
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| 19:26.16 | marcm | buu jelly-home - thanks, but I know about pinning. Isn't there a simpler method? lets say I want to restrict apt to just one folder of that repository? |
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| 19:27.30 | abrotman | marcm: the directory you're looking at .. apt doesn't know much about it .. could you backport it instead ? |
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| 19:32.37 | marcm | abrotman i wanted to use php 5.3.10 from dotdeb. I don't care much for anything else that they have to offer. |
| 19:32.38 | jelly-home | marcm: the directory structure is irrelevant really. If you don't have control of the repo, you can choose to have it enabled or not |
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| 19:35.05 | abrotman | marcm: avoid dotdeb if your server means anything to you |
| 19:35.37 | somiaj | ,versions php5 |
| 19:35.38 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze3; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze8; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze8; wheezy: 5.4.0-3; sid: 5.4.1~rc1-1 |
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| 19:36.06 | somiaj | hmm, I thought php5 packages made there way into squeeze-backports, but I'm not seeing them there. |
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| 19:37.12 | somiaj | they aren't appearing on packages.debian.org either, guess they are still waiting ot make it in. |
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| 19:39.17 | fabiobik | lol i have something strange on my terminal |
| 19:39.25 | fabiobik | fabio@ubuntu |
| 19:39.32 | fabiobik | wtf is this |
| 19:39.35 | fabiobik | im in debian |
| 19:39.51 | fabiobik | this is strange |
| 19:39.56 | somiaj | did you copy over your home directory from a ubuntu install? |
| 19:40.05 | somiaj | Did you call your computer ubuntu? |
| 19:40.07 | fabiobik | im on xfce |
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| 19:40.16 | fabiobik | nope |
| 19:40.22 | somiaj | that doesn't matter, what does 'hostname' give you in the shell? |
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| 19:40.32 | LittleFoot | ls -la |
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| 19:40.43 | fabiobik | somiaj: ubuntu |
| 19:40.57 | somiaj | fabiobik: your hostname is ubuntu. What does lsb_release -r tell you? |
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| 19:41.28 | fabiobik | somiaj: 6.0.4 |
| 19:41.43 | somiaj | fabiobik: so lsb_release -r -i -c -- just to be more complete |
| 19:41.59 | somiaj | fabiobik: for some reason you called your computer ubuntu, as to why I don't know. 'cat /etc/hostname' does that file contain ubuntu? |
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| 19:42.18 | fabiobik | somiaj: yes |
| 19:43.08 | fabiobik | Distribuitor id: Debian |
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| 19:43.22 | somiaj | fabiobik: change that file to another hostname if you don't like ubuntu as your hostname |
| 19:43.24 | maxdel74 | ciao |
| 19:43.36 | fabiobik | somiaj: how to do it |
| 19:43.38 | somiaj | fabiobik: as to why this is there, maybe you copied it over from a ubuntu install, maybe you choose ubuntu as your hostname when you installed. |
| 19:43.51 | somiaj | fabiobik: edit it with a simple text editor (though it may take a reboot for everything to grab the new hostname) |
| 19:43.52 | maxdel74 | ?list |
| 19:43.55 | fabiobik | yeh maybe i dont remember |
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| 19:44.03 | somiaj | fabiobik: you may also want to check /etc/hosts (does that have ubuntu in there anywhere)? |
| 19:44.08 | fabiobik | smiaj what file? |
| 19:44.16 | somiaj | fabiobik: /etc/hostsname -- already told you it. (: |
| 19:44.25 | fabiobik | somiaj: ups sorry |
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| 19:45.30 | fabiobik | somiaj: one more thing. when i start the notebook, the graphical desktop not initialize automatic. i need to first login and then startx |
| 19:45.38 | fabiobik | is there a way to make it automatic? |
| 19:45.53 | somiaj | fabiobik: install a display manager. For xfce you might want something simple like slim |
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| 19:46.13 | fabiobik | domiaj apt-get install slim? |
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| 19:46.16 | somiaj | fabiobik: you have xdm, wdm, slim, gdm, kdm as well known display managers |
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| 19:46.30 | somiaj | fabiobik: correct, slim is what I like and use for its simplicity and I think it looks good. Pick the one of your liking |
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| 19:47.23 | fabiobik | somiaj: well let me shutdown for testing. thanks for your help mate |
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| 19:54.15 | Jacruth | hi there, I'm trying to compile SDL and it says: error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory |
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| 19:55.45 | buu | Jacruth: Did you use build deps? |
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| 19:56.07 | Jacruth | no |
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| 20:08.34 | abrotman | Jacruth: did you use apt-file to look for that file ? |
| 20:08.43 | abrotman | judd: file asm/page.h --release squeeze |
| 20:08.48 | judd | Search for asm/page.h in squeeze/i386: linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-xen: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-xen/arch/x86/include/asm/page.h; linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-vserver: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-vserver/arch/x86/include/asm/page.h; linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/arch/x86/include/asm/page.h; linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-openvz: usr/src/linux- |
| 20:08.49 | judd | headers-2.6.32-5-common-openvz/arch/x86/include/asm/page.h |
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| 20:21.23 | envirocbr | Hey everyone. In tcpdump I remember a way to grep the unknown ethernet types that came into the interface but I can't find it in the documentation |
| 20:21.35 | envirocbr | woudl someone have an idea about this? |
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| 20:21.42 | jordanm | unkown ethernet types? |
| 20:21.53 | envirocbr | 0x088cc |
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| 20:22.20 | jordanm | is that supossed to be a TCP flag? |
| 20:23.19 | envirocbr | jordanm: I would use to this perhaps see the LLDP messages from a switchport |
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| 20:24.04 | envirocbr | ether proto 0x88cc |
| 20:24.07 | envirocbr | found it |
| 20:24.15 | sanitypassing | Hi, I mounted an external drive to /mnt. When I put a file there, does that put it on the drive itself? |
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| 20:24.29 | jordanm | envirocbr: maybe you are looking for ngrep -N/ |
| 20:24.30 | sanitypassing | (I just want to make sure. I'm a bit low on diskspace, and so I'm moving files to teh drive) |
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| 20:25.25 | jordanm | sanitypassing: yes |
| 20:25.26 | envirocbr | I don't see it in the documentatino though |
| 20:25.35 | sanitypassing | jordanm: ok, thank you. |
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| 20:26.01 | jordanm | -N Show sub-protocol number along with single-character identifier (useful when observing raw or unknown protocols). |
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| 20:26.55 | slikts_ | I think I'm crazy, I can't create symlinks, I do cd foo; ln -s bar ~/bar, and the symlink is broken |
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| 20:27.23 | envirocbr | jordanm: You see this in the tcpdump man pages? |
| 20:27.39 | slikts_ | it shows up as bar -> bar in ls |
| 20:27.44 | jordanm | envirocbr: ngrep |
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| 20:27.57 | muenchhausen | Hi again. My problem is that a mail that is supposed to go to root@localhost is sent to the gmail address of a former admin. However, I can't find where this is configured. The system runs postfix, courier, spamassassin and amavis |
| 20:28.23 | envirocbr | jordanm: Ah, I was using tcpdump |
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| 20:28.30 | envirocbr | as it was the only available tool to use |
| 20:28.49 | muenchhausen | Where could this be configured? I found three aliases files, made sure he's listed nowhere and recreated the hash file |
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| 20:29.09 | jordanm | muenchhausen: provide the full path to the source file |
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| 20:29.22 | jordanm | muenchhausen: ln -s "$PWD"/bar ~/bar |
| 20:29.41 | jordanm | slikts_: ^ |
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| 20:30.43 | jordanm | muenchhausen: grep '.*@gmail\.com' /etc/ -r? |
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| 20:31.08 | slikts_ | jordanm: but why does it happen? |
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| 20:31.26 | slikts_ | for some reason I expected it to just work |
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| 20:32.07 | muenchhausen | great line jordanm, thanks. |
| 20:32.22 | jordanm | slikts_: read the last sentence in the description of the manpage |
| 20:32.40 | jordanm | slikts_: Symbolic links can hold arbitrary text; if later resolved, a relative link is interpreted in relation to its parent directory. |
| 20:32.57 | muenchhausen | have to search the whole fs though, it's neither in /etc nor in /home ... |
| 20:33.11 | jordanm | muenchhausen: I would expect it to be /root/.forward |
| 20:33.23 | slikts_ | jordanm: I see, so I thought it would work because I usually don't use -s. thanks! |
| 20:33.36 | muenchhausen | sadly, no |
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| 20:34.39 | jordanm | muenchhausen: what does grep '^root' /etc/aliases say? |
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| 20:35.18 | muenchhausen | it tells the name of my user |
| 20:35.38 | jordanm | muenchhausen: what is in ~/<that user>/.forward? |
| 20:35.55 | jordanm | err /home/<user> |
| 20:35.57 | muenchhausen | no such file |
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| 20:36.37 | jordanm | muenchhausen: does courier do delivery with virtual users? |
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| 20:37.51 | muenchhausen | good question, I didn't look at courier closely yet since postfix is supposed to deliver mail |
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| 20:38.40 | jordanm | muenchhausen: looks like postfix will have something like virtual_* in the config |
| 20:38.44 | jordanm | I don't use postfix though |
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| 20:39.00 | ross` | hey, i would like to setup a system with dovecot/exim4/squirrelmail that allows people to login and have email without needing systems accounts |
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| 20:39.08 | ross` | perhaps a mysql implementation or something |
| 20:39.18 | ross` | does anyone have a link to a complete guide of setting up non user account email with these things |
| 20:39.43 | muenchhausen | jordanm, thanks, I'll have a look and if that doesn't help take the time to run grep -r on the whole system. |
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| 20:39.59 | muenchhausen | very useful flag btw., didn't know it, thanks. |
| 20:40.21 | jordanm | ross`: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/VirtualhostingWithExim |
| 20:40.40 | devidino | Salve ho il dvd di harry potter e la pietra filosofale volevo esarcitarmi con l'inglese ma quando avvio il disco con vlc imposto i sottotitoli eng la traccia la vede dal menu e dalla voce sottotitoli ma vlc non li mostra, ho anche importato la traccia srt prendendoda la internet ma nulla |
| 20:40.45 | devidino | a video non compaiono |
| 20:40.55 | jordanm | !es > devidino |
| 20:40.56 | dpkg | > devidino: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat |
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| 20:41.24 | jordanm | I was just guessing at the language... |
| 20:41.26 | thewanderer1 | jordanm, wanna bet $10 that was actually Italian? |
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| 20:41.33 | jordanm | thewanderer1: not really |
| 20:41.38 | jordanm | !it devidino |
| 20:41.44 | thewanderer1 | you were expecting !list, right... |
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| 20:42.32 | piklu | hi guys. Good Morning |
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| 20:42.41 | devidino | Jordan_U, sotty , I thought it to be in. |
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| 20:43.44 | gjergj | how to install firefox |
| 20:43.53 | jordanm | gjergj: apt-get install iceweasel |
| 20:44.01 | piklu | apt-get install firefox? he he |
| 20:44.18 | jordanm | !tell gjergj about iceweasel |
| 20:44.31 | gjergj | i need firefox |
| 20:44.43 | envirocbr | gjergj: Wont' happen with Debian in the repos |
| 20:44.49 | jordanm | gjergj: its the same thing with different artwork |
| 20:44.49 | envirocbr | gjergj: I think you can compile from source |
| 20:44.58 | envirocbr | SHuld you want the branding |
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| 20:45.21 | jordanm | mozilla provides pre-compiled binaries in a tarball, you don't have to compile it |
| 20:45.25 | jordanm | not supported here though |
| 20:45.38 | piklu | gjergj, http://deviceguru.com/adding-real-firefox-to-debian-linux/ |
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| 20:46.08 | jordanm | piklu: ... |
| 20:46.25 | jordanm | locally installed applications should go in /usr/local/, not /usr |
| 20:46.46 | piklu | jordanm, not my blog, he he |
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| 20:55.41 | xork | ugh.. my system will intermittently freeze when i'm doing heavy file operations (write mostly).. i've run fsck and smartctl isn't showing any problems |
| 20:55.48 | xork | cpu/ram are not maxing out |
| 20:55.55 | xork | anyone have any ideas on anything else to check? |
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| 20:58.46 | gjergj | how to install flash + java on iceweasel |
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| 21:01.12 | streuner | gjergj: its a pita, trust me, but /msg dpkg flash/java |
| 21:02.22 | gjergj | is it possible to add non free packages on sources.list ? |
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| 21:02.42 | streuner | gjergj: /msg dpkg nonfree |
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| 21:12.37 | ponyofde1th | hi, anyone configure nslcd with sasl support? |
| 21:12.55 | ponyofde1th | i cannot get nslcd configured to use krb tickets instead of svc adming account |
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| 21:20.03 | gjergj | how i can know what version of debian im running |
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| 21:23.30 | buu | gjergj: try /etc/debian_version =] |
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| 21:25.34 | gjergj | :) good |
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| 21:28.33 | jelly-home | !version |
| 21:28.33 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
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| 21:32.47 | muenchhausen | jordanm, failed to find anything with the following line. Any more ideas? grep 'jmeist@gmail\.com' / -ir -D skip --exclude-dir=/dev --exclude-dir=/proc --exclude-dir=/sys --exclude-dir=/var/log |
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| 21:34.15 | benvei | is there any option to get icedove work? |
| 21:34.22 | muenchhausen | looks to me as if the mail address isn't part of a text file... what else could it be? |
| 21:34.54 | fasta | benvei: what do you mean? |
| 21:35.14 | tekzilla | benvei: run icedove with the --work-pls parameter |
| 21:35.31 | jhutchins_wk | NIS Question: users/passwords get updated by utilities that automatically update NIS. Since the hosts file is usually just edited, what is necessary to propagate changes there? |
| 21:35.47 | fasta | !NIS |
| 21:35.48 | dpkg | The Network Information System (NIS, originally Yellow Pages) can be used to distribute system configuration data (e.g. user and host names) across networks; commonly used to maintain staff directories and files like /etc/group. Many sysadmins hate it because it is insecure. See also <LDAP>. |
| 21:36.14 | fasta | Why would you ever want to use that? |
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| 21:36.46 | matt12345 | Am I correct that dpkg and apt-get/apt-cache use text file in Packages.gz(looks like it lists all the packages) and apt-file uses Contents-<arch>.gz file in order to map each file with a package? |
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| 21:37.12 | jelly-home | fasta: NIS+ works everywhere, Solaris, HPUX, ... |
| 21:37.14 | benvei | fasta, i mean this bug : |
| 21:37.15 | benvei | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617759 |
| 21:38.24 | fasta | benvei: do you run experimental? |
| 21:38.34 | fasta | jelly-home: AIDS also works everywhere. |
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| 21:39.09 | benvei | fasta, no, stable |
| 21:39.16 | benvei | Debain squeeze with the stable repos |
| 21:39.26 | fasta | benvei: that bug is for experimental. |
| 21:39.51 | fasta | benvei: report a new bug. |
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| 21:40.57 | benvei | fasta, okay, i will do it. Is there any way to get a "real" thunderbird on Debian 6? ;) Its a VNC server, tomorrow the mailclient will be needed ;) |
| 21:41.34 | fasta | benvei: do you absolutely need Icedove? |
| 21:41.40 | fasta | benvei: is Evolution also OK? |
| 21:42.08 | fasta | benvei: I switch between those two until I find something better. |
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| 21:42.24 | benvei | fasta, i'm switching 12 Users from windows to linux... They only know thunderbird, so its not easy to lern them handle with Evolution ;) |
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| 21:42.40 | Morgawr`perm | hello, I have a quite silly problem |
| 21:42.46 | Morgawr`perm | I did ctrl+alt+f1 and went to tty mode |
| 21:42.57 | fasta | benvei: which arch? |
| 21:43.02 | Morgawr`perm | I remember in my old linux pc I could just ctrl+alt+F7 (or F8?) to go back to X |
| 21:43.03 | fasta | benvei: x86-64? |
| 21:43.04 | Morgawr`perm | but this time it doesn't work |
| 21:43.11 | Morgawr`perm | how do I get back to X? |
| 21:43.14 | fasta | benvei: what does icedove --version say? |
| 21:43.30 | tekzilla | Morgawr`perm: thats how you do it, maybe X is on another console ? |
| 21:43.38 | Morgawr`perm | tekzilla: how do I check that? |
| 21:43.45 | tekzilla | just try them all :) |
| 21:43.47 | Morgawr`perm | I did all from F1 to F8 :| |
| 21:43.51 | Morgawr`perm | (I even went to F12 |
| 21:43.51 | benvei | fasta, x64 |
| 21:43.52 | Morgawr`perm | ) |
| 21:43.52 | tekzilla | yeah ok |
| 21:44.00 | fasta | benvei: x64 does not exist. |
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| 21:44.11 | fasta | benvei: it's something made up by Microsoft. |
| 21:44.14 | benvei | fasta, x86-64... |
| 21:44.17 | benvei | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:44.23 | tekzilla | Morgawr`perm: sorry, never happened to me either |
| 21:44.32 | fasta | benvei: You can add deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free |
| 21:44.48 | fasta | benvei: then do apt-get update and apt-get install -t squeeze-backports icedove |
| 21:44.50 | Morgawr`perm | anybody got a solution? I don't really want to reboot my pc just for this silly thing (nor restart X and lose my session) |
| 21:45.16 | fasta | benvei: that will install a slightly newer version. |
| 21:45.42 | fasta | benvei: if it doesn't work apt-get remove icedove should get you back where you was, but I think it should work. |
| 21:45.57 | FlickerB | Morgawr`perm: In tty1 is x still running? |
| 21:46.00 | tekzilla | Morgawr`perm: maybe check in 'ps' output on which tty X should be running for a start |
| 21:46.06 | kevlarman | there's a repository for iceweasel and icedove |
| 21:46.10 | kevlarman | that i'm forgetting the url to |
| 21:46.18 | fasta | kevlarman: yes, but that will fuck up your system. |
| 21:46.26 | kevlarman | fasta: O_o |
| 21:46.41 | gjergj | i need good sources.list fow squeeze |
| 21:46.46 | gjergj | for |
| 21:46.49 | Morgawr`perm | tekzilla & FlickerB oh wow... I think I found my problem... X is in tty7 but I guess my (rather shitty) keyboard doesn't accept ctrl+alt+F7 input sequence |
| 21:46.54 | Morgawr`perm | =_= so it does nothing |
| 21:46.56 | fasta | benvei: status? |
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| 21:47.24 | tekzilla | Morgawr`perm: just alt+f7 maybe ? or is the f7 key broken :) |
| 21:47.33 | DaveNull | from a TTY, it's Alt-F7 (without Ctrl), no ? |
| 21:47.49 | Morgawr`perm | looks like it's alt+f7 the problem |
| 21:47.50 | FlickerB | Morgawr`perm: tekzilla is right, anything above f6 only needs alt. |
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| 21:47.55 | benvei | fasta, same error :// |
| 21:47.58 | Morgawr`perm | :( |
| 21:48.31 | fasta | benvei: then I think you did something with your system that you are not telling. |
| 21:48.31 | mafiaboy | is there any console based version of emacs as i sometimes use linuxx in console mode |
| 21:48.41 | fasta | benvei: however annoying this must sound. |
| 21:48.54 | benvei | fasta, installing xfce VNC, nothing elese |
| 21:48.56 | Morgawr`perm | okay.. I fixed the problem ahaha... I used altgr+F7 |
| 21:48.58 | benvei | its a fresh installation |
| 21:49.03 | fasta | benvei: icedove --version returns what now? |
| 21:49.06 | Morgawr`perm | it worked :) thanks guys, sorry for my silly problem |
| 21:49.09 | Morgawr`perm | see you! :) |
| 21:49.10 | cthuluh | mafiaboy: have you tried running emacs in a tty? |
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| 21:49.13 | benvei | fasta, Icedove 3.1.16 |
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| 21:49.33 | fasta | benvei: and what exactly do you see when it crashes? |
| 21:49.42 | cthuluh | mafiaboy: or, even, emacs -nw, or unset DISPLAY; emacs |
| 21:49.56 | cthuluh | mafiaboy: better ask #emacs, next, btw |
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| 21:50.27 | benvei | fasta, i don't see ANYTHING, i can only start it via the console |
| 21:50.49 | fasta | benvei: that doesn't make sense. |
| 21:51.00 | fasta | benvei: you have to start it in an xsession. |
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| 21:51.16 | fasta | benvei: or at least somewhere with a DISPLAY variable set. |
| 21:51.31 | benvei | fasta, done, same error |
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| 21:52.10 | fasta | benvei: you are not giving any useful information. |
| 21:52.20 | fasta | benvei: good luck. I gtg. |
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| 21:54.51 | rowinggolfer | PROPOSAL - put this on a t-shirt. https://dl.dropbox.com/s/z1zgy2rcdiovlbu/infographic_debian_history-en-v081.png |
| 21:54.52 | LittleFoot | iceweasel lol |
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| 21:55.06 | _cbr_ | Is there a good arm gnu eabi SDK for Debian? |
| 21:55.12 | KindOne | It looks like I can't add a VPN? |
| 21:55.37 | _cbr_ | That includes all the headers and a standard library I can link against. |
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| 22:21.05 | eightiesk | !wubi |
| 22:21.05 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 22:21.29 | eightiesk | :-p |
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| 22:25.00 | eightiesk | is there a wubi counterpart for debian? |
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| 22:27.13 | krisfremen | eightiesk: if I remember correctly, ibus has a wubi interface |
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| 22:28.37 | Eighties | krisfremen, I have never loaded debian before |
| 22:29.00 | krisfremen | Eighties: boot it up then and try ibus |
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| 22:29.58 | Eighties | krisfremen, whats ibus? |
| 22:30.06 | krisfremen | senses a troll |
| 22:30.36 | Eighties | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:30.51 | Eighties | just someone who hasn't used linux in 5 years |
| 22:30.57 | Boohbah | have you considered... virtualbox? |
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| 22:31.22 | shred805 | does anyone know how I enable TCP_NODELAY |
| 22:31.34 | Eighties | Boohbah, ugh here too |
| 22:31.41 | Eighties | you and your vbox |
| 22:31.42 | Eighties | :-p |
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| 22:32.05 | Boohbah | it is a far superior solution to wubi |
| 22:32.16 | Eighties | fine |
| 22:32.44 | shred805 | does anyone know how I enable TCP_NODELAY in debian squeeze? |
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| 22:35.56 | FlickerB | shred805: do you mean for a specific package such as ssh, apache, samba or am I not following? |
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| 22:36.50 | shred805 | FlickerB, i think telnet |
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| 22:38.22 | Geneller | hi everyone, i'm trying to install debian on an Alix 3d3, but i always get error about the processor i use |
| 22:38.28 | Geneller | any help please ? |
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| 22:38.47 | Eighties | how would i get my wireless working with vbox? |
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| 22:40.07 | Eighties | nm fml |
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| 22:41.46 | FlickerB | shred805: I don't think there's a client side option for that.... although i wouldn't be surprised if it were default... |
| 22:42.40 | FlickerB | Geneller: What processor do you have? |
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| 22:44.20 | Geneller | FlickerB: CPU: 500 MHz AMD Geode LX800 |
| 22:44.23 | Geneller | http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d3.htm |
| 22:45.00 | Geneller | i've being trying to download differente versions from here http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable |
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| 22:45.57 | simonlnu | the geodes should be supported by the i686 kernel, or similar for squeeze (whatever that is) |
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| 22:47.15 | Geneller | simonlnu: i've downloaded i386 and amd64 but neither worked |
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| 22:47.46 | Geneller | simonlnu: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable, from this link what version should download ? |
| 22:47.52 | lapsusbrutus | hi guys? what happened to wine in wheezy? aptitude search dont find anything 0.o |
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| 22:48.22 | simonlnu | i386 should... i was talking about the kernel. you may want to read more of the installer docs |
| 22:48.24 | Eighties | Boohbah, fails at boot loader |
| 22:48.25 | simonlnu | !ig |
| 22:48.25 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 22:48.31 | simonlnu | Geneller: ^^ |
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| 22:48.51 | Geneller | i386 gave me an error |
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| 22:49.42 | Boohbah | Eighties: then you have likely made a mistake |
| 22:49.47 | Boohbah | Eighties: go read the installation guide |
| 22:50.02 | Boohbah | Eighties: and the easiest way to get networking in vbox is with a bridged network device |
| 22:50.10 | lapsusbrutus | anyone knows what has happened? wine dissappeared from the repos in wheezy. |
| 22:50.34 | kevlarman | lapsusbrutus: the version in the repository was old enough to be completely useless |
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| 22:53.22 | lapsusbrutus | kevlarman: maybe for bleeding edge gaming, but worked for a lot of things. gotta compile then |
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| 22:55.50 | n-iCe | Hello! I have a huge problem! I have a Inspiron Mini Laptop Dell 1018 but the wireless is blocked, already checked the BIOS and is enabled, says something about rfkill, I can't turn on the switch due a keyboard raw code error 220 |
| 22:56.05 | n-iCe | this one, keyboard can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240 |
| 22:56.24 | n-iCe | I don't know what to do, I'm tired |
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| 22:56.39 | n-iCe | I'm using Debian 6.0.4 stable |
| 22:56.39 | muenchhausen | n-iCe, can you use the rfkill command? |
| 22:56.46 | n-iCe | muenchhausen: does not work, it keeps blocked |
| 22:57.12 | muenchhausen | what does rfkill list <device> say? |
| 22:57.33 | n-iCe | dell_wifi blocked hard and soft, same to wifi |
| 22:57.44 | n-iCe | but after unblock all or unblock 1 or 0, is the same, does not change |
| 22:58.08 | muenchhausen | you should at least be able to soft-unblock using rfkill |
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| 22:58.30 | n-iCe | but hard keeps blocked |
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| 22:58.37 | n-iCe | and is not making my network work |
| 22:58.55 | muenchhausen | hard likely can only be done using the switch |
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| 22:59.07 | muenchhausen | hw switch that is |
| 22:59.11 | n-iCe | and the switch does not command |
| 22:59.15 | n-iCe | does not work* |
| 22:59.19 | n-iCe | says that keyboard error |
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| 22:59.53 | muenchhausen | not sure about the keyboard error.. likely a bug |
| 23:00.13 | n-iCe | tried a lot of distros |
| 23:00.14 | muenchhausen | search the web for your laptop model + that error |
| 23:00.22 | n-iCe | the last kernel |
| 23:00.30 | Geneller | simonlnu: i still getting the same error |
| 23:00.32 | n-iCe | and is the same, I already did that, that's why I know all the listed commands does not work |
| 23:01.55 | muenchhausen | have you searched the kernel bug tracker? If you find nothing there, report the error |
| 23:03.00 | n-iCe | no I don't even have time, I need my laptop to work :/ |
| 23:03.20 | muenchhausen | well, if no-one reports a bug it likely won't get fixed |
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| 23:04.20 | n-iCe | muenchhausen: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=647249 |
| 23:04.23 | n-iCe | what do you think |
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| 23:04.48 | muenchhausen | is it a debian bug or a kernel bug? |
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| 23:05.11 | n-iCe | Debian I guess |
| 23:06.11 | muenchhausen | you said you tried other distros |
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| 23:08.51 | muenchhausen | it's probably rather pointless to test with debian and ubuntu since the later is based on the former |
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| 23:21.45 | thewanderer1 | is there a way to show `cp -R` progress? |
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| 23:31.49 | D-Chymera | hi guys, any ideas how I can edit the nautilus "computer" section bookmarks in gnome 3.4? |
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| 23:35.12 | gustavo_cm | Hi there. GParted shrunk my /home ext4 partition bud didn't update the superblock. How can I solve it? |
| 23:35.23 | gustavo_cm | I tried fsck, but nothing |
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| 23:44.35 | FluxD | linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM (meta-package) |
| 23:44.36 | FluxD | linux-image-686-bigmem - Linux for PCs with 4GB+ RAM (meta-package) |
| 23:44.36 | FluxD | linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM |
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| 23:44.45 | FluxD | which of that is the latest kernel for squeeze ? |
| 23:45.05 | gustavo_cm | Hi there. GParted shrunk my /home ext4 partition bud didn't update the superblock. How can I solve it? I tried fsck, but nothing. |
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| 23:45.48 | n-iCe | Hello, I just installed Debian 6.0.4 stable, but network-manager is not installed, how can I connect to the internet? |
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| 23:46.33 | krisfremen | n-iCe: ifup ifdown? |
| 23:46.37 | Macer | i was wondering if maybe someone here used mcabber? i just needed to know how to get rid of the buffer window on the bottom |
| 23:46.50 | n-iCe | Kirakishou: tried, but how can I know if the ethernet driver was loaded? |
| 23:47.00 | reflexrg | I am really liking squeeze so far. I like the fact it creates on installation root and normal user if I remember right you had to do the normal user after installation. Also I like the guided separate partitions that size it just right for you. But I'd like it that the netinstall allowed you to pick what desktop environment to install instead of just twm. Also having a automatically created sources list by choosing your location and wha |
| 23:47.14 | reflexrg | DEBIAN RULES! |
| 23:47.40 | reflexrg | Well this is from powerpc installation so might be different from x86 installation |
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| 23:49.25 | n-iCe | krisfremen: I did ifconfig eth0 up, and is listed in ifconfig, but I connect the ethernet try a ping google.com and does not work |
| 23:49.31 | n-iCe | how can I know when it is connected to the internet |
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| 23:53.36 | krisfremen | n-iCe: what does ping say? |
| 23:53.36 | krisfremen | server unreachable? |
| 23:53.36 | krisfremen | does it resolve? |
| 23:53.36 | krisfremen | does it time out? |
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| 23:53.51 | krisfremen | woops |
| 23:53.56 | krisfremen | damn 4G lag |
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| 23:54.07 | mgodzilla | no?you got kicked. |
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