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| 00:04.20 | scwizard | I can't get networking to work |
| 00:04.28 | scwizard | which is weird because it worked fine earlier |
| 00:04.37 | scwizard | also the cable it's plugged into is working when plugged into a windows box |
| 00:04.49 | scwizard | any diagnostics I can run? |
| 00:04.55 | chaput | ifconfig |
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| 00:05.25 | scwizard | I don't have an ip address when I ifconfig |
| 00:05.34 | chaput | dhclient eth0 ** replace eth0 with your adapter name |
| 00:05.35 | scwizard | erm whoops |
| 00:05.45 | scwizard | actually I have an ip6 one but no ip4 one |
| 00:06.19 | scwizard | sudo dhclient eth0 is hanging |
| 00:06.41 | scwizard | should I ctl-c out of it? |
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| 00:06.59 | scwizard | oh there it goes |
| 00:07.12 | scwizard | I still only have a ip6 address and not a ip4 one |
| 00:07.27 | Achylles | how do I restore alacarte debian small icons? |
| 00:07.47 | Achylles | they disappeared |
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| 00:13.11 | scwizard | I guess I'll try reinstalling :/ |
| 00:13.29 | scwizard | at least my graphics are fine now |
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| 00:19.02 | thewanderer1 | hmm, any idea why mdadm starts a nonexistent RAID set at boot? it's supposed to be ZFS, but it somehow detects it and mounts as md127 O.o |
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| 00:19.18 | a123 | Hi guys, does anybody know how often smartmontools updates attribute values for a drive? |
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| 00:19.57 | thewanderer1 | a123: errr, it reads them at runtime I think? |
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| 00:20.09 | dondelelcaro | a111: you just run update-smart-drivedb or similar |
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| 00:21.13 | a123 | It's reporting 0 reallocated sectors on one drive which should have some (I forced it with hdparm --write-sector), am I missing something? |
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| 00:21.39 | thewanderer1 | a123: maybe it has managed to reallocate it? |
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| 00:22.03 | a123 | If it relocated, why does smartmontools show 0 relocations? |
| 00:22.32 | dondelelcaro | a123: it may not have needed to be reallocated |
| 00:22.46 | dondelelcaro | or you may not have rewritten the bad sector |
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| 00:22.56 | scwizard | "your network is probably not using the DHCP protocol" |
| 00:23.05 | scwizard | but DHCP seems to work fine when I plug the wire into a windows box :( |
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| 00:23.29 | a123 | oh, good point. It was giving an IO error when reading the sector with --read-sector, then after writing the sector it was able to read it fine, I assumed that meant it had marked the sector as bad and given me a new one |
| 00:23.30 | thewanderer1 | scwizard: drivers / firmware required for the NIC I suppose? |
| 00:23.50 | scwizard | no that's not it! because earlier I was able to connect to the network fine |
| 00:24.34 | scwizard | the only thing that changed since then, is I got a new graphics card |
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| 00:25.02 | a123 | meh I'm going to stop worrying about it. For whatever reason there are hundreds of sectors giving IO errors on read, I'm going to wipe them all. |
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| 00:27.52 | thewanderer1 | ok, so I've borked my PAM setup... how to regain access to the system, now that login isn't working, and without a reboot? |
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| 00:28.58 | thewanderer1 | oh wow, silly me. I had another tty with a root login running O.o |
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| 00:32.33 | robin_sz | so, I has a luksOpen fs mounted under LVM ... every now and then (2 months ish) the drive begins to make a "ticking" sound and the machine crashes ... rebooting is sloooooow, grub takes ages and the drive never gets as far as booting |
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| 00:33.10 | robin_sz | so .. debian live, do the cryptsetup / vgscan / mount thing |
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| 00:33.29 | robin_sz | and it mounts fine .. reboot the machine, it then boots fine |
| 00:33.38 | robin_sz | clues? advice? etc? |
| 00:33.47 | kevlarman | robin_sz: sounds like a bad drive |
| 00:34.24 | robin_sz | so why is a live debian able to mount it perfectly and restore it to health? |
| 00:34.28 | scwizard | this is strange |
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| 00:34.33 | scwizard | my network phone is also not working |
| 00:34.44 | robin_sz | its not a one off, its happened half a dozen times |
| 00:34.54 | scwizard | windows can connect to the network but my linux box can't and my phone can't :/ |
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| 00:35.20 | robin_sz | scwizard, dhcp confilcts |
| 00:35.23 | MestreLion | Hi! How can I manually install a manpage? simply drop the troff file to /usr/local/share/man/man1/myapp.1 ? |
| 00:35.24 | robin_sz | reboot the lot |
| 00:35.24 | thewanderer1 | scwizard: hmm, ##networking? |
| 00:36.02 | scwizard | robin_sz, I don't know what that is, but I have a feeling you're on the mark |
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| 00:36.24 | MestreLion | any triggers I must to to "enable" the manpage after moving it to the man dir? |
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| 00:37.39 | robin_sz | scwizard, chances are your dhcp server has "forgotten" it has assigned the ip address to the windows box, and then tried to give it to your phoen and linux box, try a network restart on the linux box |
| 00:38.13 | robin_sz | and on turn the windows box off |
| 00:38.20 | robin_sz | for about .. oh .. a year |
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| 00:40.10 | robin_sz | would I gain anything in performance from running unencrypted partitions for / and luks on /home, /tmp and /var? |
| 00:40.26 | dondelelcaro | robin_sz: probably not |
| 00:40.33 | robin_sz | fair enough |
| 00:40.43 | dondelelcaro | robin_sz: since most things on / that you'd need would quickly get cached anyway |
| 00:40.51 | robin_sz | ah right |
| 00:41.55 | robin_sz | weird ... theres a file oooooooooo.ooo in / ? |
| 00:41.58 | scwizard_ | robin_sz, rebooting the router seems to have given the phone a dialtone |
| 00:42.19 | robin_sz | scwizard_, yeah, thats dhcp for you |
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| 00:42.56 | scwizard_ | robin_sz, do you still have this problem if you use a commerical router? |
| 00:43.17 | robin_sz | yes, |
| 00:43.30 | scwizard_ | I certainly hope not, because the servers have a very expensive router, and I really don't want ot have to reboot it ever for reasons I dont' really get |
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| 00:43.53 | scwizard_ | although I guess static IPs are being used a lot in that case, I dunno :/ |
| 00:44.04 | robin_sz | its a normal networking problem |
| 00:44.15 | robin_sz | servers should always be on static ips |
| 00:44.28 | robin_sz | dhcp is just a convenience for home users mostly |
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| 00:44.39 | robin_sz | hmm |
| 00:44.45 | scwizard_ | well now I know! |
| 00:44.46 | robin_sz | thats an over generalistation |
| 00:44.58 | scwizard_ | anyways the phone is working which is nice, but debian still won't get an IP |
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| 00:45.16 | robin_sz | what router is it? |
| 00:45.28 | scwizard_ | Linksys E1500 |
| 00:45.56 | robin_sz | shrug, it shoukld hand out dhcp addresses, take eth0 up and down on debian again |
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| 00:46.28 | scwizard_ | ifdown eth0 gives "interface eth0 not configured" |
| 00:46.39 | robin_sz | so ifup .. |
| 00:46.42 | scwizard_ | ifup eth0 gives ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 |
| 00:47.00 | scwizard_ | ifconfig says that it is a real interface tho so I dunno |
| 00:47.18 | somiaj | scwizard_: that means you don't have an entry for the device in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 00:47.30 | robin_sz | nods |
| 00:47.37 | somiaj | if it is a wired device just need the line 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' |
| 00:47.40 | scwizard_ | that's strange, because this was able to connect to the network once upon a time |
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| 00:47.55 | robin_sz | well, you cant now so add that line |
| 00:48.05 | scwizard_ | somehow the /etc/network/interfaces file doesn't exist O_O |
| 00:48.31 | robin_sz | you deleted it |
| 00:48.39 | scwizard_ | I have no memory of doing such a thing |
| 00:48.45 | robin_sz | and have amnesia |
| 00:48.46 | squibby | hi I'm a noob I was wondering if anybody in there knew of a way to tweak parameters for avahi-daemon so that it doesn't try to use mDNS for traceroutes or off network reverse lookups. right now I am just disabling avahi to get around this. |
| 00:49.32 | scwizard_ | oh it does exist, I just typoed and something wierd came up |
| 00:49.42 | robin_sz | who would have thought |
| 00:50.06 | scwizard_ | anyways some program called "networkmanager" seems to have commented out my eth0 inet dhcp line... |
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| 00:50.09 | thewanderer1 | squibby: do you mean you want to disable using avahi by the system resolver? |
| 00:50.27 | scwizard_ | I have #networkmanager#iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 00:50.31 | robin_sz | pesky networkmanager |
| 00:50.33 | scwizard_ | there, and I certainly never typed those lines myself |
| 00:50.42 | scwizard_ | what is networkmanager |
| 00:50.51 | scwizard_ | my guess is that it's something that came when I isntalled graphics |
| 00:50.56 | robin_sz | it manages network connections |
| 00:50.57 | scwizard_ | that thinks it's smarter than me when it's really not |
| 00:51.05 | scwizard_ | I can manage my own network connections tyvm |
| 00:51.11 | thewanderer1 | haha, looks like you got the gist of it :P |
| 00:51.24 | scwizard_ | sudo apt-get remove networkmanager <- do this? |
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| 00:51.40 | squibby | thewanderer1: I've already disabled it using update-rc.d, I was just poking in to see if somebody has a better, less aggressive way to get it to stop using mDNS to resolve IPs for traceroute, etc |
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| 00:51.47 | somiaj | scwizard_: go for it, I dont' use nm either |
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| 00:51.51 | thewanderer1 | scwizard_: network-manager I think |
| 00:51.58 | somiaj | scwizard_: some like it cause it has a gui front end for wireless networks. |
| 00:52.01 | thewanderer1 | squibby: see /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 00:52.09 | squibby | thewanderer1: I will. thanks. |
| 00:52.13 | robin_sz | scwizard_, you have gnome running? .. its the icon on top righ tthat looks like a ethernet socket |
| 00:52.41 | scwizard_ | >:( |
| 00:52.44 | scwizard_ | it wants to remove gnome |
| 00:52.46 | robin_sz | just click on eth0, job done |
| 00:52.48 | scwizard_ | when I remove network manager |
| 00:53.04 | thewanderer1 | scwizard_: with aptitude or apt? |
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| 00:53.28 | scwizard_ | ok I will try aptitude |
| 00:53.38 | LtL | scwizard_: try allow-hotplug eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces if n-m commented out inet blah blah etc |
| 00:53.39 | robin_sz | same thing will occur |
| 00:53.39 | thewanderer1 | also, removing gnome-desktop-environment *only* is not a problem. worse if it's trying to take those 300 packages with it... |
| 00:54.08 | scwizard_ | LtL: it's alreayd there |
| 00:54.14 | scwizard_ | thewanderer1, hmm... well it didn't so... |
| 00:54.22 | robin_sz | why are you making such a fuss out of just clicking that icon on your screen? |
| 00:54.36 | scwizard_ | I clicked it I clicked it u_u |
| 00:54.42 | scwizard_ | (had to log in to gnome) |
| 00:54.45 | scwizard_ | it says its connecting |
| 00:54.56 | robin_sz | then, your problems are over |
| 00:54.58 | robin_sz | relax |
| 00:55.02 | robin_sz | enjoy |
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| 00:55.28 | robin_sz | have 2 free interenets |
| 00:55.47 | scwizard_ | not over yet, wait for it to finish connecting >_> |
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| 00:56.06 | scwizard_ | "activation of network connection failed" |
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| 00:56.19 | thewanderer1 | /var/log/daemon.log to the rescue? |
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| 00:56.41 | robin_sz | the cable has fallen out |
| 00:56.43 | scwizard_ | so I will uncommetn those lines |
| 00:56.48 | scwizard_ | and eth0 up |
| 00:57.02 | robin_sz | or the card is duff |
| 00:57.06 | scwizard_ | and now it's doing DHCPdiscover |
| 00:57.08 | robin_sz | I blame the cable |
| 00:57.12 | scwizard_ | and it seems to be working |
| 00:57.19 | robin_sz | or the elves |
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| 00:57.48 | scwizard_ | no DHCPoffers recieved Q_Q |
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| 00:58.02 | robin_sz | pesky router |
| 00:58.08 | robin_sz | srsly, check cabling |
| 00:58.19 | thewanderer1 | scwizard_: maybe try to send a hostname along with your request? |
| 00:58.25 | thewanderer1 | some firmwares may require that |
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| 00:58.49 | thewanderer1 | (not sure if it'd work at the discovery stage, really) |
| 00:58.56 | robin_sz | nods |
| 00:59.04 | robin_sz | sounds liek neteork cable failure to me |
| 00:59.09 | robin_sz | or duff port |
| 00:59.21 | thewanderer1 | the first thing I'd check would be: does static connectivity without DHCP work? |
| 00:59.41 | robin_sz | goes back to trolling on 4chan |
| 00:59.42 | scwizard_ | might as well |
| 00:59.56 | tentwe | I don't have internet on my debian machine, and cannot provide internet to it. |
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| 01:00.12 | tentwe | Is it possible to, and if so can you provide a link, to install VLC offline? |
| 01:00.39 | tentwe | I do not have make installed, however if it is possible to install the build utilities, and then compile VLC that works |
| 01:01.03 | somiaj | tentwe: you can copied over the .deb's needed and install them with dpkg -i |
| 01:01.37 | tentwe | I guess the biggest problem is dependenacies, so if vlc depends on vlcdep and vlcdep depends on fdep which depends on derp |
| 01:01.49 | somiaj | tentwe: but you will either have to download the .deb an any dependencies from packages.debian.org, download a dvd/cd image with lots of packages. Not sure which cd would have vlc on it |
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| 01:02.05 | somiaj | tentwe: correct, packages.debian.org lists the dependencies so you can try to go though them |
| 01:02.07 | tentwe | Hmmm, cannot download large files... |
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| 01:02.26 | tentwe | So that is my best bet? I just didn't want to have to manually do it ;p |
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| 01:02.44 | thewanderer1 | ,info apt-zip |
| 01:02.44 | somiaj | depends, as I said you could grab a few cd images |
| 01:02.45 | judd | Package apt-zip (admin, extra) in squeeze/i386: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Version: 0.18; Size: 20.1k; Installed: 128k; Homepage: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/apt-zip |
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| 01:03.09 | somiaj | or yea there are tools you can download and create custom collections of debs. |
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| 01:04.08 | tentwe | Are their any windows tools for debs? |
| 01:05.02 | thewanderer1 | unlikely |
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| 01:08.40 | scwizard_ | :( with a static IP it still doesn't work |
| 01:08.49 | scwizard_ | the cable works fine, when I plug it into windows to |
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| 01:09.50 | robin_sz | duff card |
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| 01:10.32 | scwizard_ | well then let me test it with port intergreated into the MB |
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| 01:14.59 | solemnwarning | Hi |
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| 01:15.39 | solemnwarning | I just tried upgrading my server with a PCI-X Sil3124 SATA card from lenny to squeeze and encountered... slight problems |
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| 01:16.20 | solemnwarning | After running for a few minutes it started to generate constant ATA errors to the kernel log, from all disks and after a bit longer it dropped two of the disks entirely and corrupted the RAID array |
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| 01:17.02 | solemnwarning | I'm waiting for the array to (hopefully) rebuild under a livecd now, any insights as to why squeeze would act like this? |
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| 01:19.09 | scwizard_ | both the network card and the ethernet port in the MB are not working |
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| 01:21.13 | wodemaye_ | is condom an actual package? |
| 01:21.32 | scwizard | so did both pieces of hardware die after working previously? |
| 01:21.58 | scwizard | bleh :( |
| 01:22.29 | bandu | wodemaye_: it would be hilarious if it was |
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| 01:22.39 | wodemaye_ | sex! |
| 01:22.41 | bandu | like, a set-and-forget firewall or something |
| 01:22.44 | wodemaye_ | !sex |
| 01:22.45 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install diaphram; mount; fsck; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 01:22.48 | wodemaye_ | bandu yeah. |
| 01:23.05 | wodemaye_ | !pkg diaphram |
| 01:23.11 | wodemaye_ | meh. |
| 01:23.19 | bandu | heehee |
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| 01:24.55 | tentwe | I was just thinking about condoms... |
| 01:25.11 | tentwe | Checksums would be perfect for digital condoms... |
| 01:26.05 | tentwe | I mean, we have digital woman in picture form... |
| 01:26.08 | tentwe | coughs |
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| 01:26.20 | thewanderer1 | when installing nfs-kernel-server and nfs-common in a chroot, how to tell dpkg that it should *not* start the daemons? |
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| 01:29.12 | MestreLion | guys, about manyally installing a home-made man page... do I only need to move it to /usr/local/share/man/man1/myapp.gz , or are there additional steps? what about man-db? |
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| 01:30.14 | thewanderer1 | MestreLion: run "mandb", should handle things |
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| 01:31.16 | MestreLion | thewanderer1: with which options? mandb man page is a bit terse for someone who never messed with creating man pages before |
| 01:31.42 | thewanderer1 | I'd say just run it and it should work |
| 01:31.58 | MestreLion | sudo mandb with no options and that's it? |
| 01:32.05 | thewanderer1 | looks like it |
| 01:32.32 | MestreLion | thanks thewanderer1 ! I there any oficial docs/tutorials about it, besides the man page? |
| 01:32.57 | thewanderer1 | MestreLion: no idea :P |
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| 01:33.22 | thewanderer1 | !nmg |
| 01:33.23 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
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| 01:33.26 | thewanderer1 | maybe the above |
| 01:33.51 | MestreLion | ok, last question: is it possible to install man pages per user? I mean, just loke we do with icons and .desktop files in ~/.local/share ? |
| 01:34.59 | MestreLion | thewanderer1: not much.. dpkg do everything by itself... dh_man, etc... but only helpful if you're using a .deb file... i need to do it "by hand", without creating a .deb file |
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| 01:35.50 | MestreLion | the app itself will be in /opt , is kinda of a standalone app... but I still would like it to have a man page |
| 01:36.16 | thewanderer1 | make a package :P |
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| 01:36.47 | Delf | During crc check of some random files, I get bad CRC randomly. Any idea what It could be? |
| 01:37.25 | interop | Would you say libc* and libgcc* and libfreetype6 would be installed by default? |
| 01:37.46 | interop | Basically, I think I would need the QT stuff, and the VLC* stuff... |
| 01:38.09 | interop | Like libtar would be standard, right? |
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| 01:38.30 | MestreLion | thewanderer1: I will for sure, in the future.. but that's a whole new chaptter, a whole new universe to learn... for now, I'll keep it in /opt, and install icon, .desktop, symlink to /usr/bin and manpage |
| 01:39.45 | LV-426 | thewanderer1, regarding nfs, you could use apt-get -d along with dpkg --no-triggers |
| 01:39.45 | MestreLion | by the way.. besides those 4 files (exec symlink, icon, .desktop and man page), is there anything else for my app in /opt to have a decent integration with the system? |
| 01:40.12 | interop | i guess it can't hurt to find out myself... |
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| 01:43.28 | thewanderer1 | LV-426: oh, that'd be great. thanks! |
| 01:43.29 | LV-426 | hemm... scratch that, not sure it would work. |
| 01:43.32 | thewanderer1 | O.o |
| 01:44.05 | LV-426 | try it out... but it might only be relevant to inter-pkg configuration |
| 01:44.08 | thewanderer1 | trigger != postinst, huh? |
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| 01:59.11 | rainfyre | hey everyone. Is there any news on when the new stable is going to drop? |
| 01:59.55 | dondelelcaro | rainfyre: WIR, as usual |
| 02:00.20 | rainfyre | heh |
| 02:00.24 | rainfyre | yeah yeah |
| 02:00.28 | dondelelcaro | rainfyre: but considering that testing has yet to freeze, it's at least 6 months out |
| 02:00.32 | rainfyre | June or July? |
| 02:00.36 | rainfyre | oh ok |
| 02:00.51 | rainfyre | dondelelcaro: I didn't realize that testing hadn't frozen yet |
| 02:00.55 | rainfyre | wow! |
| 02:01.07 | rainfyre | dondelelcaro: and thank you! |
| 02:01.14 | dondelelcaro | we tend to be running at around a 2 year release cycle now, and squeeze has only been out for a bit over a year and two months |
| 02:01.25 | damacus | hehe |
| 02:01.27 | rainfyre | dondelelcaro: I was hearing rumors about it being in june or july so I thought I'd log in and ask |
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| 02:01.29 | damacus | that's all good by me... |
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| 02:01.44 | rainfyre | dondelelcaro: i love squeeze |
| 02:01.48 | Delf | Nevermind, ram was dammaged. |
| 02:01.52 | rainfyre | damacus: no doubt |
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| 02:10.14 | baronobeefdip | i know it's been going on for a while but i am still having trouble setting up my pxe boot server |
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| 02:10.57 | baronobeefdip | this time i didn't use iso images, i have been using the extracted contents of the iso images and i have been getting some pretty promising outcomes i just need to make it work |
| 02:11.50 | baronobeefdip | i have a copy of my default file on google docs if anyone want to view it (and change it that would be a very big help) |
| 02:12.43 | baronobeefdip | the dhcp and /etc/exports files seem fine, the dhcp server gives the client the pxelinux file and the nfs shares are accessable without a login and password |
| 02:12.50 | baronobeefdip | it's just still not working |
| 02:13.16 | baronobeefdip | so i need some help here |
| 02:14.14 | nvz | whats the problem |
| 02:14.28 | nvz | because after reading all those lines I dont see any mention of the issue |
| 02:15.02 | baronobeefdip | whenever i boot into the dhcp i am getting a request asking for me to "name the disk" but i am not using a disk i am using nfs |
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| 02:15.46 | nvz | judging by "boot into the dhcp" and "i am not using a disk I am using nfs" you dont know what you're talking about.. which would be the cause of the problem |
| 02:15.49 | nvz | heh |
| 02:15.57 | damacus | pxe is dicks :( |
| 02:16.02 | baronobeefdip | i would like to go over my procedures, i extracted the contents of the iso into the /srv/tftp/ubuntu directory and the vmlinuz and initrd.lz files are in the /srv/live/ubuntu |
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| 02:16.05 | nvz | loves pxe |
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| 02:16.17 | baronobeefdip | i am coming out a little vague i know but i'l about to get to the issue |
| 02:16.30 | SomeoneWeird | lol. |
| 02:16.33 | damacus | gPXE seems promising |
| 02:16.38 | damacus | but I had headaches with regular pxe |
| 02:16.54 | baronobeefdip | the /srv/tftp/ubuntu directory is being shared via nfs and i have it set as nfsroot in the /srv/tftp/pxelinux.cfg/default file |
| 02:16.57 | nvz | I've done all kinds of rube goldberg stuff with pxe |
| 02:16.58 | baronobeefdip | heres my default file |
| 02:17.04 | nvz | liek flashing a bios over pxe |
| 02:17.04 | damacus | hott |
| 02:17.08 | baronobeefdip | https://docs.google.com/document/d/106xme4DqHvLMgUHTnbCTN5UbhihhGxNLlQvuLPK0su0/edit |
| 02:17.10 | damacus | jeez |
| 02:17.23 | rypervenche | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 02:17.23 | dpkg | First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you will have a bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like squeeze-updates and backports, and change squeeze to wheezy. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while. |
| 02:17.33 | baronobeefdip | is gpxe in the repo server (if it's not then i am not going to bother) |
| 02:18.21 | baronobeefdip | as we speak i am setting up a new pxe boot server (the way i have been doing it earlier today, i have been experimenting lately and have been getting nowhere) |
| 02:18.24 | damacus | http://etherboot.org/wiki/howtos |
| 02:18.44 | damacus | can chainload gpxe |
| 02:18.47 | damacus | from regular pxe |
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| 02:20.13 | baronobeefdip | i have the contents of the iso file somwhere that is being hosted as the nfsroot declaration but i am not getting anywhere as soon as i see the errors i have been getting i'll get back to you. i noticed that in some documents it mentions a file called /dev/nfs but i don't see it (i have also noticed that other guides don't use it but unless it of any relavence what does it do) |
| 02:22.18 | baronobeefdip | alright here is the line for my nfs exports file "/srv/tftp/ubuntu *(ro,async,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check) |
| 02:22.25 | baronobeefdip | alright here is the line for my nfs exports file "/srv/tftp/ubuntu *(ro,async,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)" |
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| 02:22.58 | baronobeefdip | i have also added the next-server and filename "pxelinux.0" lines in the dhcpd.conf file |
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| 02:34.30 | Funkadelic | How can I insert a character after the same phrase on multiple lines of a file? |
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| 02:36.25 | baronobeefdip | alright here is the error i am getting on the client side of the bootup |
| 02:36.52 | baronobeefdip | NFS over TCP not available from 192.168.1.55 |
| 02:37.41 | un214 | ah diskless |
| 02:37.42 | un214 | what fun |
| 02:37.59 | baronobeefdip | do you know whats going on here |
| 02:38.13 | un214 | probably less than you |
| 02:38.23 | baronobeefdip | okay |
| 02:38.32 | damacus | baronobeefdip: interesting that its asking for NFS over TCP specifically, as opposed to UDP |
| 02:39.00 | baronobeefdip | its a recent version of syslinux and this is being done on the software from the squeeze repo |
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| 02:40.26 | baronobeefdip | like i said before the contents of the ubuntu iso image are in the /srv/tftp/ubuntu directory and the kernel declaration is told to look in ubuntu/casper/vmlinuz and the initrd is initrd=ubuntu/casper/initrd.lz |
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| 02:41.19 | baronobeefdip | and heres the exports line |
| 02:41.20 | damacus | just out of idle curiosity, you can mount this nfs share just fine from a normal linux box right? |
| 02:41.27 | damacus | with -oproto=tcp |
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| 02:42.20 | baronobeefdip | you mean this command |
| 02:42.21 | baronobeefdip | # mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt |
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| 02:43.26 | damacus | nfs-server:/ wouldn't make sense there.. nfs-server:/srv/tftp/ubuntu would |
| 02:43.38 | baronobeefdip | just an example |
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| 02:44.07 | damacus | so you've tested nfs i guess you're saying? |
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| 02:44.24 | baronobeefdip | just turned the computer back on i'll do a double check |
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| 02:46.02 | baronobeefdip | it works with the "mount -o nolock 192.168.1.55:/srv/tftp/ubuntu /root/ubuntu" command |
| 02:46.21 | baronobeefdip | so nfs isn't the problem here |
| 02:47.28 | baronobeefdip | still getting the "/tmp/net-eth0.conf no such device" error |
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| 02:51.05 | damacus | shrugs |
| 02:51.19 | damacus | gl if you figure it out, please lmk =) |
| 02:51.31 | baronobeefdip | nobody has been able to help me with this and it's really frustrating |
| 02:51.52 | damacus | maybe spend 30m-1h looking into gPXE? |
| 02:52.06 | damacus | chainload it, or use a simple boot dev from it |
| 02:52.35 | baronobeefdip | too complicated with all of the chainloading i just want a standalone booting app |
| 02:52.47 | damacus | take the time. it's worth it imho |
| 02:52.53 | damacus | bbl |
| 02:53.05 | damacus | just gonna leave this right here: http://etherboot.org/wiki/howtos |
| 02:53.19 | baronobeefdip | u already posted that |
| 02:53.25 | baronobeefdip | too much to go through |
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| 03:01.22 | jwayne | I installed Ubuntu :( |
| 03:01.36 | jwayne | (just on the laptop) |
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| 03:18.03 | beder | are there any quick scripts to change the phonon "profile": |
| 03:18.13 | beder | without resorting to the phonon x app |
| 03:21.59 | Mr_Queue | Anyone running the BFS here? |
| 03:23.04 | Mr_Queue | Patch went well on 3.3.2, but the make-kpkg failed on a known bug, walking up to testing which should fix that there.. Interested on how it's worked out for you. |
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| 03:24.41 | ar9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:32.22 | WilsonBradley | Anyone know what player can play back .av files in Linux? |
| 03:32.45 | ar9 | just .av? |
| 03:32.48 | ar9 | not avi? |
| 03:33.11 | Mr_Queue | ^ rename it and try again |
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| 03:34.00 | Mr_Queue | So no one has messes with the Brain Fuck Scheduler? |
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| 03:35.15 | dvs | Mr_Queue: I can compile 3.3.2 but I didn't patch mine. |
| 03:35.47 | Mr_Queue | Yeah the 3.3.2 compile went fine non-debian way. |
| 03:36.12 | Mr_Queue | make-kpkg failed on bug 638012 |
| 03:36.20 | dvs | I did mine the Debian way and it went fine. |
| 03:36.22 | Mr_Queue | Was fixed early this month. |
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| 03:39.34 | Mr_Queue | dvs: Are you on stable? |
| 03:39.57 | dvs | yes |
| 03:40.05 | Mr_Queue | interesting.. |
| 03:40.14 | Mr_Queue | Perhaps the patch caused it. |
| 03:40.35 | Mr_Queue | In the bug I posted, I tried the symlink which also failed. |
| 03:40.35 | dvs | That's what I'm thinking |
| 03:41.12 | Mr_Queue | The walk to testing is still unpacking, I'm hoping it will go. |
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| 03:49.23 | WilsonBradley | ar9: Yes just .AV |
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| 04:28.40 | baronobeefdip | i found out that you can pxe boot through http instead of the common nfs, this seems to be a bit simpler i am just having trouble finding a sample config file that implements pxelinux with http |
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| 04:31.48 | beder | baronobeefdip: it is a pxe script for slackware, but it might help you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/building-a-slackware-magical-script-feedback-and-suggestions-welcome-903069/ |
| 04:32.11 | kbar | wat |
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| 04:32.18 | kbar | sorry wrnog can |
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| 04:34.46 | baronobeefdip | it uses nfs like the last tactic i was looking at, i would still like to make a live cd iso bootable through pxelinux and have it installable. |
| 04:35.11 | baronobeefdip | plus it only copies down slackware, i want to implement it with the ubuntu livecd iso file |
| 04:35.22 | baronobeefdip | nfs keeps causing problems |
| 04:35.35 | beder | I don't really know anything about pxe, I just remembered seeing this topic a while ago and thought it might shed some light |
| 04:35.45 | beder | good luck :-) |
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| 04:39.18 | beder | good night all, time to go |
| 04:39.24 | baronobeefdip | have been trying to get pxe working all week but to no avail, i keep getting kernel panics and error in the botting process which i assume has something to do with nfs. i am also confused about how you configure the /src/tftp/pxelinux.cfg/default file since i see them completely differently for making ubuntu bootable through pxe, all are completely different so i don't know what works |
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| 05:36.55 | cerales | Does anyone know what might cause the stage of installation where the GRUB ootloader is installed to MBR to fila? |
| 05:36.58 | cerales | to fail* |
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| 05:41.24 | damacus | cerales: a few failed experiences with the squeeze installer than dmcrypt/swraid |
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| 05:48.43 | wodemaye_ | Hi, I'm getting completely frozen repeatedly for long periods of time by the "a script on this page is causing firefox to become unresponsive" or whatever it is dialog... |
| 05:49.15 | wodemaye_ | is there any way for me to kill ONLY the js interpreter of iceweasel from a CTRL+ALT+F1 prompt? |
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| 05:49.28 | wodemaye_ | like i can with killall gtk-gnash? |
| 05:49.58 | wodemaye_ | or better yet, only kill the script that's throwing the error? |
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| 06:04.55 | cerales | damacus: hmm.. no dmcrypt, nor even LVM |
| 06:05.03 | cerales | it just falis when putting the bootloader onto the MBR |
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| 06:07.33 | valdyn | !error |
| 06:07.33 | dpkg | user error at console, abort, retry, fail? See also <don't work>, <errors>. |
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| 06:18.25 | _ramok | hi |
| 06:18.39 | _ramok | is there any command to see a specific directory structure on console? |
| 06:19.25 | _ramok | i mean with owner group and access rights? |
| 06:19.34 | simonlnu | man ls |
| 06:19.54 | wodemaye_ | _ramok, ls -Rlh |
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| 06:20.56 | LV-426 | _ramok, tree -lug |
| 06:21.31 | _ramok | LV-426: i don't have "tree" on my debian squeeze |
| 06:21.55 | peterrooney | ,versions tree |
| 06:21.56 | judd | Package: tree on i386 -- lenny: 1.5.2-1; squeeze: 1.5.3-1; sid: 1.6.0-1; wheezy: 1.6.0-1 |
| 06:22.18 | _ramok | what do i have to install? |
| 06:22.26 | _ramok | package is not called tree, is it? |
| 06:22.53 | LV-426 | yes |
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| 06:23.45 | peterrooney | _ramok: in this instance, tree - but in general, if you install apt-file, you find out which package contains any given program |
| 06:23.45 | _ramok | okay, but -lug does not display the access rights, right? |
| 06:24.08 | peterrooney | s/you find out/you can find out/ |
| 06:24.24 | _ramok | ah, thanks |
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| 06:35.56 | raptor67782 | hello world |
| 06:36.04 | raptor67782 | I have a sheeva plug and this device is not working : |
| 06:36.46 | raptor67782 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.12 | raptor67782 | I would like to display and keys to work but the kernel Linux debian 2.6.36 is too old for that |
| 06:37.40 | Devastator | raptor67782 squeeze? |
| 06:37.47 | raptor67782 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.04 | Devastator | raptor67782 you can install a newer kernel using backports |
| 06:38.15 | raptor67782 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.31 | raptor67782 | well, I am not sure that it is the kernel this my box is a SHeeva plug. |
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| 06:38.48 | raptor67782 | I would like to keep this sheeva plug default squeeze otherwise that'lÃll be big mess |
| 06:39.18 | raptor67782 | the voip device works with ALSA but not the LCD and not the Key jstest |
| 06:39.33 | raptor67782 | I would like with jsevent to see the key pressed |
| 06:40.02 | raptor67782 | or other. just to see that one press 1, 2, ... left, right ... |
| 06:40.25 | Devastator | i know nothing about yealink, all i said is if you need a newer kernel use backports |
| 06:40.29 | raptor67782 | /dev/input$ ls |
| 06:40.31 | raptor67782 | by-id by-path event0 mice |
| 06:40.57 | raptor67782 | Devastator: but I would say that it could work since ALSA works. it is certainly some minor things |
| 06:41.11 | raptor67782 | maybe Udev dont make the LCD and KEys inputs ... |
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| 06:46.02 | peterrooney | Since when is #debian-next invite only? |
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| 06:56.11 | _ramok | i've some damn issues to set the access rights correct for my web folder... |
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| 06:56.26 | _ramok | does someone has the time to do it with me? i'm fighting it about 2 hours now... |
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| 07:11.43 | _ramok | if i have apache mit fcgi and suexec installed... where can i see why i get "ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access /app.php on this server." in the browser? i've looked in /var/log/apache2/error.log /access.log but i don't get anything here when looking with tail -f on these files |
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| 07:20.40 | Boohbah | _ramok: check your file permissions |
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| 07:32.14 | sanitypassing | Hi, is there anywa way at all to remove the borders from gnome-terminal? |
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| 07:52.56 | testo___ | hi all. i've a debian wheezy 64 bit |
| 07:53.02 | ElDiabolo | Hi. Are there any official torrents for testing netinstall? |
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| 07:53.36 | testo___ | no /usr/lib32/libGL in my ia32-libs package |
| 07:53.41 | testo___ | any ideas? |
| 07:54.54 | dutchfish | testo___, http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/debian-installer/ |
| 07:55.30 | testo___ | dutchfish: ? |
| 07:56.59 | dutchfish | testo___, you mean libGl.so ? |
| 07:57.07 | testo___ | yes |
| 07:57.11 | dutchfish | testo___, ia32-libs-dev: /usr/lib32/libGL.so |
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| 07:57.36 | testo___ | ahhh thanks i've missed a package |
| 07:57.41 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 08:05.59 | dutchfish | testo___, btw for less bandwidth if you plan to test the netinstall repeatedly like i do, use jigdo from the devel section http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 08:06.45 | testo___ | thanks for the hint dutchfish |
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| 08:07.37 | cerales | does anyone know what might be going on if I freeze on "create slab" on boot? i've just installed debian on a thinkpad L520 |
| 08:07.57 | cerales | some people suggested that i might be able to add 'acpi=off' as a line in GRUB so i added it at the end of the grub boot string but it made no difference |
| 08:07.58 | dutchfish | cerales, what debian version and kernel? |
| 08:08.32 | dutchfish | cerales, acpi off wont work for lsub/slab errors, its a kernel thing |
| 08:08.36 | sephii | I'm installing debian for a person who has little knowledge of computers. do you have any recommendation of an apt frontend? |
| 08:09.31 | kleanchap | Will "cp -R" retain the extra files in the destination directory that are not in the source? |
| 08:09.42 | cerales | it's debian testing |
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| 08:09.57 | dutchfish | cerales, uname -r ? |
| 08:10.02 | cerales | i can't boot.. |
| 08:10.10 | dutchfish | cerales, ah ok |
| 08:10.18 | dutchfish | ,judd kernel |
| 08:10.21 | cerales | i think it's kernel 2.6.35 |
| 08:10.36 | dutchfish | cerales, no, at least 3.x |
| 08:10.54 | dutchfish | ,jud kernel version |
| 08:12.05 | dutchfish | i believe its 3.2+44 |
| 08:12.16 | sephii | kleanchap: the files won't get deleted |
| 08:12.50 | dutchfish | cerales, http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=linux-image |
| 08:13.16 | kleanchap | sephii, Thnx! |
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| 08:14.17 | dutchfish | cerales, there are some particular issues with 3.2 on kirkwood cpu's i have read |
| 08:14.30 | dutchfish | cerales, which produce slab errors on boot |
| 08:14.45 | cerales | hmm |
| 08:15.06 | cerales | the odd thing is that i have the same problem if i try ubuntu or linux mint, BUT i'm able to boot into a Mint live cd without issues |
| 08:15.15 | cerales | but if i instal debian, mint or ubuntu, i get this issue |
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| 08:17.05 | dutchfish | cerales, i assume this is testing debian, not squeeze which has another slab error on boot with kirkwood cpu's sometimes like this: SLAB: cache with size 64 has lost its name |
| 08:17.42 | dutchfish | cerales, compare the kernels |
| 08:17.56 | dutchfish | cerales, it is not userland prolly |
| 08:18.14 | dutchfish | cerales, can you give me the exact phrase of the error? |
| 08:19.29 | dutchfish | cerales, btw if my hunch is correct, it was fixed in next kernel 3.3 |
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| 08:20.15 | dutchfish | cerales, you could try a livecd from a linux with that kernel and see if it solves the problem |
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| 08:22.21 | dutchfish | cerales, this is what pickaxe came up with: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux%2Fkernel%2Fgit%2Ftorvalds%2Flinux.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=slab+error |
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| 08:22.21 | guardian | hi, how to downgrade a package when aptitude versions doesn't show the previous anymore and the .deb isn't in /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 08:22.30 | guardian | i want to downgrade to nginx-full 1.1.17-2 from squeeze backports, the .deb is still in there http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/pool/main/n/nginx/ |
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| 08:22.50 | dutchfish | guardian, download from archives and dpkg install it and pin it if you want to keep it |
| 08:24.14 | guardian | download I can do, then "dpkg -i file.deb", then i have to edit /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 08:24.25 | dutchfish | guardian, http://archive.debian.org/debian/ |
| 08:24.26 | cerales | dutchfish: I see. So I need to get a livecd with the kernel version of what i installed, so that i can confirm that the kernel version is the problem? |
| 08:24.41 | dutchfish | cerales, or that, yes |
| 08:25.06 | dutchfish | cerales, rem that debian does port back fixes from future kernels .... |
| 08:25.08 | cerales | dutchfish: even then, all the OS's i've tried come with a kernel that doesn't work. so what would i be able to do? |
| 08:25.29 | dutchfish | cerales, find one with 3.3 |
| 08:25.52 | dutchfish | cerales, at least you could report a bug to the kernel team |
| 08:27.24 | cerales | dutchfish: makes sense. i'll give it a go, thanks. |
| 08:27.24 | dutchfish | cerales, or if you are brave enough compile one on your own |
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| 08:30.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | doh, when I run ls -l on my laptop, it says ls: error initializing month strings |
| 08:30.39 | dutchfish | cerales, there apears to be already a 3.3 in the trunk http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-3.3.0-trunk-686-pae |
| 08:30.54 | dutchfish | cerales, other flavors as well |
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| 08:32.08 | dutchfish | cerales, see also http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-kernel@lists.debian.org |
| 08:32.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | and seems that is because the month is in German... "Mär", but... printed in iso-8something, while $LANG is en_US.UTF-8 |
| 08:32.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | so I get a month of M� |
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| 08:34.43 | dutchfish | guardian, but be aware that backporting is not officially supported .... |
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| 08:35.07 | dutchfish | s/backporting/downgrading dugh |
| 08:35.27 | guardian | well i'm downgrading from a backport that bleeds a bit too much :) |
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| 08:35.38 | dutchfish | (sorry for my translation mistake) |
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| 08:35.55 | dutchfish | guardian, ehe |
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| 08:38.04 | Trieste | Hi, I have a stable netinstall cd, but the kernel is apparently too old to support my ethernet card, do you think that downloading a testing cd would solve that? |
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| 08:38.33 | Benkinooby | hi, this question came up yesterday: how can i get to use one single program to use vpn while all other software uses my normal connection? i thought about making the needed iptable rules (either by port used or destiantion ip/domain) and then forwarding these packets to my tunnel wich got it's own route entry. is there a simpler more staight forward way? |
| 08:38.55 | Benkinooby | argh, sorry for the grammar XD |
| 08:39.37 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, why not stick to a ssh tunnel then? |
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| 08:40.33 | Benkinooby | dutchfish, what do you mean |
| 08:40.35 | Benkinooby | ? |
| 08:40.53 | GDR| | dutchfish: not every program supports proxying |
| 08:41.31 | dutchfish | GDR|, true, but that was not the q |
| 08:42.18 | Benkinooby | my concrete problem is the following: i use a software that needs a licensing server. that server can only be reached from my uiversities network. so to start the software i have to vpn to the uni network and then start the software. as soon as i lose connection, the software will run 20 minutes before shutting down. |
| 08:42.56 | Trieste | or hey, to put it differently - what packages, beside the package with the kernel, do I need to upgrade it? |
| 08:43.02 | Benkinooby | GDR|, dutchfish wouldn't proxying need an extra proxy server` |
| 08:43.04 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, i would simply use a vpn router since this is already no more GPLed software |
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| 08:43.32 | Trieste | I could download them on my phone (where I'm now ircing from) and transfer them over USB |
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| 08:44.48 | Benkinooby | dutchfish, google only give me unusable results on vpn router... what's a vpn router? |
| 08:45.25 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, a sec |
| 08:46.05 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, something like a vigor 2230 there are quiet some others as well |
| 08:46.20 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, easy to setup |
| 08:46.53 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, if you insest on doing it it on a soft box, use a specialized linux firewall OS |
| 08:47.26 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, i have used smoothwall express on an old P4 for exactly the same reason, which you can setup in 15 min |
| 08:47.29 | Benkinooby | dutchfish, i have experience with bering on ebedded system |
| 08:47.45 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, or that |
| 08:48.30 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, setting up a vpn and proxy on a debian systems can be done, but it is not something you do in a few minutes |
| 08:49.12 | dutchfish | Benkinooby, i am just being pragmatic .... |
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| 08:49.45 | Benkinooby | dutchfish, didn't ask for anything else... |
| 08:49.54 | dutchfish | your welcome |
| 08:50.15 | Trieste | help, anyone? :) |
| 08:50.17 | Benkinooby | dutchfish, thx |
| 08:50.32 | dutchfish | Trieste, did you read the debian wiki about missing network drivers? |
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| 08:50.51 | Trieste | dutchfish: not yet, could you point me to it? |
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| 08:51.54 | dutchfish | Trieste, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetInstWithThirdPartyNetworkDriver |
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| 08:52.10 | DelphiWorld | hey guys, how to turn timestamping on dmesg ? |
| 08:52.52 | dutchfish | DelphiWorld, http://linuxaria.com/article/how-to-make-dmesg-timestamp-human-readable?lang=en |
| 08:53.08 | DelphiWorld | dutchfish: hmmm |
| 08:53.11 | DelphiWorld | dutchfish: let me read on |
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| 08:54.34 | nander | I got either a bug or a virus |
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| 08:54.54 | nander | I get infinite numbers of 'password required' screens |
| 08:55.05 | nander | For a net location I opened in rhythmbox |
| 08:55.55 | DelphiWorld | dutthank you for that my friend, but please would you give me the command to totaly remove the date/time using the /proc location, i remember doing that :( |
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| 08:56.11 | DelphiWorld | nander: is a streaming link ? |
| 08:56.18 | nander | It's a windows share |
| 08:56.22 | nander | (samba) |
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| 08:57.07 | nander | Oh, now rhythmbox has crashed |
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| 08:57.31 | nander | It seems rhythmbox doesn't like 16000 songs |
| 08:58.31 | DelphiWorld | lol |
| 08:59.17 | DelphiWorld | dutgot it? |
| 08:59.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps they were hip-hop |
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| 09:01.22 | nander | It was a collection of lots of different songs |
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| 09:02.49 | Trieste | What packages do I need to upgrade the kernel? |
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| 09:04.01 | babilen | Trieste: Upgrade the kernel from what to what? |
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| 09:05.11 | Trieste | babilen: from stable to whatever-supports-my-ethernet-card, which should be the version in testing |
| 09:05.27 | babilen | !tell Trieste -about bdo kernel |
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| 09:06.19 | babilen | Trieste: Which NIC is it? What is its PCIID? (lspci -nn) |
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| 09:06.53 | hanibana | hi. I've installed Debian by net-install CD version 6.0.0 . The question is: can I use "aptitude upgrade" to upgrade to 6.0.4? is it equivalent to having 6.0.4 fresh re-installation? |
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| 09:07.17 | Trieste | oh, sorry, the backstory here is that the stable install cd has a kernel which is too old to support my network card, so I thought I could install stable without the internet, manually download the (hopefully) few packages from my phone, upgrade the kernel and then pull up the rest |
| 09:07.20 | babilen | hanibana: yes |
| 09:07.31 | babilen | !tell Trieste -about kmuto |
| 09:08.20 | babilen | Trieste: The kmuto images come with newer kernels -- I would still strongly recommend to install and use a kernel from http://backports.debian.org after the installation. (In order to get upgrades) |
| 09:08.27 | hanibana | thanks babilen, afterall from where can I see my installed debian release number? |
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| 09:08.38 | babilen | hanibana: "cat /etc/debian_version" |
| 09:09.30 | hanibana | 6.0 means 6.0.0 ? |
| 09:09.36 | babilen | yes |
| 09:09.56 | hanibana | thank you. |
| 09:10.19 | babilen | hanibana: You are welcome. If you have further questions or would like me to take a look at your sources.list let me knoe :) |
| 09:10.24 | babilen | *know |
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| 09:10.50 | superlinux-hp | hi. is there a gnome screen ruler similar to kruler? |
| 09:11.58 | babilen | superlinux-hp: screenlets mention "rulers" in their description, but you might be able to just use kruler if it is what you are looking for. |
| 09:12.44 | Trieste | babilen: cool, thanks! |
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| 09:12.52 | superlinux-hp | babilen, what are screenlets? |
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| 09:13.35 | babilen | superlinux-hp: There is also https://bugs.launchpad.net/screenruler -- screenlets are "apt-cache show screenlets", but I don't really think that they come with a ruler. :) |
| 09:13.54 | superlinux-hp | ah ok |
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| 09:14.01 | superlinux-hp | i'll go check it |
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| 09:16.43 | guardian | is "echo packagename hold" | dpkg —set-selections the right way to pin a package to a particular version? |
| 09:16.55 | hanibana | babilen: :) yeah of course. Actually I've several HP DL580 G7 servers. I've problem with their ethernet cards. From lspci the model is: NetXen Incorporated NX3031. The problem is: after rebooting their net connections do NOT work. It just starts to work if someone plug/unplug the cable from server NIC ports manually! It's just weird for me. For Lenny we had to buy separate PCI cards! now for squeeze we have this problem. |
| 09:17.29 | Trieste | babilen: um, why is the cd version 200 mb and the usb version 20 mb? |
| 09:17.31 | hanibana | I read from here: http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant . It works fine with r2. |
| 09:18.22 | Trieste | of the kmuto images, i mean |
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| 09:19.53 | babilen | Trieste: They contain different sets of packages. You want the CD version (even if you plan to create a bootable USB) -- The USB images are meant for "the flexible way" as discussed in "/msg dpkg usb install" |
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| 09:22.05 | Trieste | babilen: I see, thanks |
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| 09:22.47 | babilen | hanibana: r2 of what? (>= 6.0.2 of Debian) ? |
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| 09:23.44 | starenka | hi, i stumbled upon this message: The kernel driver for this filesystem type is not available.: Error mounting: mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat' |
| 09:24.10 | starenka | if i look into /lib/modules i se vfat.ko under fs/fat directory |
| 09:24.18 | starenka | what's going on? |
| 09:24.20 | starenka | any clue? |
| 09:25.07 | babilen | hanibana: You might also need firmware (i.e. firmware-bnx{,2}) for that NIC. I can't really tell without knowing its PCIID and/or dmesg output. A backported kernel (3.2) might also be worth a try if the problem persists with the latest kernel in squeeze. |
| 09:25.12 | hanibana | babilen: so my bad mistake! what's this means?: squeeze-di-rc2 |
| 09:25.42 | babilen | hanibana: I read that as release candidate 2 of the debian installer for squeeze |
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| 09:26.45 | babilen | hanibana: That is: Everything that you can download right now is newer than that |
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| 09:28.43 | testo___ | does anyone installed systemd on debian wheezy? |
| 09:28.45 | hanibana | babilen: so what about "aptitude upgrade"? |
| 09:28.53 | hanibana | it works so? |
| 09:29.03 | testo___ | i cant find the way get rid of init and use only systemd |
| 09:29.55 | sephii | is there a way to mount ntfs partitions in the installer shell? |
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| 09:30.29 | babilen | hanibana: It should work, yes. Have you installed your system already? |
| 09:30.41 | hanibana | babilen: YEs |
| 09:30.52 | hanibana | and it was from 6.0.0 |
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| 09:31.39 | babilen | hanibana: Please show me your /etc/apt/sources.list (/msg dpkg show sources.list) and the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-get update ; aptitude search ~U" |
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| 09:33.08 | hanibana | lspci -vv output: http://pastebin.com/6pBdLL1t , and dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/ABdRXdJd . |
| 09:33.11 | hanibana | ok sure. |
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| 09:36.11 | babilen | !tell hanibana -about pastebin.com |
| 09:36.19 | babilen | hanibana: (No need to repaste it though) |
| 09:36.54 | hanibana | ok |
| 09:37.16 | babilen | hanibana: Could you show me "lspci -nn|grep -i NX3031" (-vv is confusing) in here? |
| 09:37.33 | hanibana | ok |
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| 09:38.38 | babilen | hanibana: But the dmesg output looks fine - Do you still experience problems? What about your sources.list and "apt-cache policy" and "apt-get update ; aptitude search ~U" ? (→ http://paste.debian.net ) |
| 09:39.33 | hanibana | http://paste.debian.net/164152/ |
| 09:39.52 | hanibana | actually, I had a local mirror which I did changed to official for upgrade. |
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| 09:41.29 | guardian | can someone help me with a oneliner that checks whether user foo belongs to group bar? |
| 09:41.58 | guardian | groups foo | grep bar ? |
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| 09:43.01 | babilen | hanibana: Ok, you miss essential entries in your sources.list (namely security repositories) -- Please read "/msg dpkg make squeeze sources.list" and alter it accordingly. The cdn. mirrors are geo ip based (/msg dpkg geo sources) and I would recommend *at least* entries for "squeeze main", security and squeeze-updates ... |
| 09:44.57 | hanibana | yeah sure... |
| 09:47.53 | hanibana | babilen: why these lines aren't present in default sources.list? |
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| 09:50.27 | babilen | hanibana: They should be, but it depends on what you do during the initial installation. I can't really tell you how you ended up with that :-/ |
| 09:51.00 | hanibana | babilen: yes, you're right :) |
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| 09:54.56 | Trieste | babilen: what if I can chroot to the squeeze that's already there? |
| 09:55.15 | Trieste | babilen: do you think I could upgrade the kernel that way? |
| 09:55.51 | babilen | Trieste: You don't have network access from "that squeeze" do you? |
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| 09:57.15 | Trieste | babilen: no, but I have it from the ubuntu live cd I'm chrooting to it from |
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| 10:01.26 | somiaj | Trieste: make sure you mount /proc and /dev inside the chroot first so it can access the network cards and the likes |
| 10:01.35 | somiaj | (might need /sys too) |
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| 10:04.49 | cerales | Does anyone know how i can set acpi=off in GRUB? when I boot into the installer I can just edit the options line, but now that i have grub installed the options work differently |
| 10:06.20 | babilen | cerales: /etc/default/grub -- Read "info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'" and edit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX accordingly |
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| 10:13.08 | cerales | babilen: thanks! |
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| 10:15.33 | cerales | babilen: I'm confused, though. my computer seems to feeze whlie the kernel is booting; previoisly i was setting acpi=off and it worked |
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| 10:15.51 | cerales | but i'm not sure if it's even mounting my root prtition before encountering this problem? |
| 10:16.05 | cerales | or, perhaps, do i need to do grub-install again after editing /etc/default/grub? |
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| 10:18.45 | babilen | cerales: No, but you have to run "update-grub" after making changes to /etc/default/grub |
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| 10:20.58 | cerales | babilen: so i do update-grub from the live cd? that seems to say 'cannot find a device for /' |
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| 10:22.15 | nischay | hello |
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| 10:28.34 | hanibana | babilen, I've upgraded to 6.0.4, but, still have this ethernet problem! it needs manual plug/unplug! :-( |
| 10:29.25 | hanibana | can't be the problem of LAN switch?! :\ |
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| 10:33.51 | babilen | !tell cerales -about fixmbr |
| 10:34.09 | babilen | cerales: If you work from a live cd you *have* to mount /proc and /dev into the chroot |
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| 10:34.51 | babilen | hanibana: You could try a newer kernel from http://backports.debian.org (/msg dpkg bdo kernel) or search for an applicable bug report. I haven't used that hardware so far and therefore don't have first-hand experience with it. |
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| 10:42.22 | thewanderer1 | I'm trying to make Debian copy over some additional config files and install packages during boot. the goal is: having a RAM-booted install, while also allowing the user to place packages on a pendrive to be installed before boot... |
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| 10:43.24 | thewanderer1 | the thing is, I need to mount a local disk filesystem first, and for that, I need the "zfs" binary and supporting libraries. how would I go about copying them to the initramfs? |
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| 10:49.02 | webad_13 | on sid here - after the update, horizontal edge scroll does not seem to work properly. Could anyone remind me how to get to setting for it - it is synaptic |
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| 10:50.45 | webad_13 | nevermind, got it :) |
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| 10:54.43 | project2501a | hey guys. does anybody have a live lenin mirror, please? |
| 10:54.48 | project2501a | need to snap postgres 8.3 |
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| 10:56.07 | babilen | project2501a: lenin mirror? Are you mayhaps thinking about "/msg dpkg lenny sources.list" ? But meh: Just upgrade! |
| 10:57.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | a live lenin mirror... aaaah, the images in my head that this creates... they don't go away |
| 10:57.22 | project2501a | lol |
| 10:57.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | isn't lenin kept on ice somewhere in russia? |
| 10:57.40 | project2501a | and they brought his corpse out to wash it, last week |
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| 10:58.47 | project2501a | babilen: i did upgrade to 9.1 problem is, the original data was on a 8.3 psql installation . i need to install 8.3 in order to tell pg_upgradecluster to upgrade from 8.3 to 9.1 |
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| 11:02.05 | project2501a | babilen: |
| 11:02.11 | project2501a | sorry wrong message |
| 11:02.18 | babilen | project2501a: I've seen it. |
| 11:02.39 | babilen | project2501a: Unfortunately I have to leave now. I'll be back shortly, but shouldn't the upgrade have handled that transition? |
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| 11:02.58 | babilen | project2501a: Sorry, bbl :-/ |
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| 11:17.22 | deever | after reconnecting a sata disk with the root LVM lv via usb, the initrd stops because the root lv is no activated automatically, which means i have to do a lvchange -a y. |
| 11:17.30 | deever | is there a way to reautomate that again? |
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| 11:21.11 | jelly-home | deever: it mgiht work better if your root= parameter is in format root=/dev/mapper/vgname-lvname |
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| 11:22.17 | tremon | deever: how did you manage to disconnect / in the first place? |
| 11:22.27 | jelly-home | deever: (as opposed to root=UUID=... or root=LABEL=... or root=/dev/vgname/lvname) |
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| 11:38.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | you cannot |
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| 11:40.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | that you can |
| 11:40.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | what stops you |
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| 11:40.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's an ar archive containing tar archives |
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| 11:48.51 | Trieste | babilen: Hi, so I got the cd with the backported kernel, installed it, but now it doesn't boot - it stops with error messages about nouveau |
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| 11:51.19 | Trieste | apparently the same problem as this guy: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=75497 |
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| 11:56.01 | babilen | Trieste: Try without KMS -- /msg dpkg kms -- http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#nVidia_GfxCards - You might also want to try disabling the NVIDA card in the BIOS (probably the pesky^Whorrible optimus crap) |
| 11:56.13 | babilen | Trieste: Actually I would try with pure intel first. |
| 11:57.07 | deever | jelly: that's how it is in grub, /dev/mapper/vg/lv |
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| 11:57.29 | deever | jelly-home: sorry, was for you |
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| 11:57.43 | my53|f | could I install 64 bit kernel version on pentium D? are new kernel good? I've search on google, but all discussion are old |
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| 11:58.21 | tremon | deever: try /dev/mapper/vg-lv |
| 11:58.25 | deever | tremon: what do you mean with "in the first place"? |
| 11:59.01 | deever | tremon: that's how it's already done |
| 11:59.03 | deever | oups |
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| 11:59.12 | babilen | my53|f: Please run "grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo". Does it show any results? |
| 11:59.20 | deever | jelly-home: i mean /dev/mapper/vg-lv |
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| 11:59.41 | tremon | deever: you said you reconnected your / LV. I'm curious how you managed to disconnect it without breaking your system |
| 12:00.02 | babilen | my53|f: AFAICT you can install amd64 on that processor though |
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| 12:00.38 | my53|f | babilen: http://pastebin.com/49gvZsGb |
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| 12:02.37 | deever | tremon: well, not without breaking, obviously...else i would ask the lv question here...;) |
| 12:02.59 | deever | s/would/wouldn't/ |
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| 12:04.07 | tremon | deever: my experience with disconnecting / is that your system would have crashed immediately. Not keep running fine until you shutdown and subsequently fail to boot |
| 12:04.16 | my53|f | babilen: I've some issues with lm-sensors, pwmconfig don't recognize sensors, so I've search for kernel configuration |
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| 12:05.16 | deever | tremon: huh? of course i did shutdown the box before disconnecting the disk...;) |
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| 12:06.21 | babilen | my53|f: Yeah, you can install amd64 kernels on that hardware |
| 12:07.13 | deever | the question is: why does a root fs on an LVM lv need an additionan 'vgchange -a y' if connected via usb? |
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| 12:07.17 | tremon | I'm confused. So you shutdown your pc, unplugged the disk, plugged it in again and it failed to boot? |
| 12:07.25 | deever | tremon: yes |
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| 12:08.09 | deever | as soon as i vgchange -a y in the initrd system, the system boots up properly. |
| 12:08.24 | tremon | deever: only reason I can think of is that the usb modules are loaded too late. But the initramfs has a timeout, it will wait a for a number of seconds before giving up. |
| 12:08.38 | deever | yes |
| 12:08.44 | thewanderer1 | deever: have you tried update-initramfs -k all -u ? |
| 12:09.30 | tremon | deever: I still fail to see how your fiddling with usb plugs has any relation at all to with your problem. Did you install a new kernel, perform updates recently? |
| 12:09.41 | tremon | s/with // |
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| 12:10.07 | deever | tremon: no |
| 12:11.26 | deever | thewanderer1: i don't think it's an usb problem since i only need to 'vgchange -a y' to make it work again. i don't need to load any modules and the root lv is also displayed in 'lvs', but not active |
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| 12:11.55 | CissWit | n |
| 12:12.14 | thewanderer1 | deever: yeah, but the initramfs needs to know that you require LVM early. so go and update the initramfs... |
| 12:15.15 | my53|f | babilen: etch 64 bit was the first so i've installed in this machine, many years ago, but was unstable, have you any shrewdness? |
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| 12:16.49 | babilen | my53|f: What do you mean by "have you any shrewdness" ? |
| 12:18.22 | my53|f | babilen: device, tip, advice |
| 12:18.36 | babilen | wut? |
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| 12:19.10 | my53|f | babilen: by your experience, have you any particular suggest? |
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| 12:19.40 | SeedGame | Hello all |
| 12:19.49 | SeedGame | I need help |
| 12:19.58 | babilen | SeedGame: Just ask |
| 12:20.09 | deever | thewanderer1: no improvement |
| 12:20.09 | SeedGame | Thanks. |
| 12:20.11 | babilen | my53|f: No, unfortunately not as I do not use pwmconfig |
| 12:20.42 | my53|f | babilen: ok, what about 64bit kernel? |
| 12:20.43 | thewanderer1 | deever: dpkg -L lvm |
| 12:20.49 | thewanderer1 | deever: see what initramfs scripts it delivers |
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| 12:20.58 | babilen | my53|f: I already answered that. You can install amd64 kernels on that hardware. |
| 12:21.04 | thewanderer1 | verify that they are working correctly i.e. they are there, hack them to give you some output etc. |
| 12:21.28 | my53|f | babilen: 'll go all right |
| 12:21.51 | SeedGame | I have one server and i have added two users in it, each user have rutorrent or deluge installed at a same time but I want each user not to exceed bandwidth lets say 50gb bandwidth |
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| 12:21.53 | babilen | my53|f: good luck -- you might want to check for applicable bug reports on http://bugs.debian.org |
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| 12:22.28 | SeedGame | How can i do that bandwidth quota |
| 12:22.46 | SeedGame | And each user have disk quota also |
| 12:22.51 | my53|f | babilen: :-) thaks a lot, ;-) |
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| 12:24.15 | tremon | SeedGame: magic word is traffic shaping, look up htb and sfq modules and tc binary |
| 12:25.26 | SeedGame | What is htp? |
| 12:25.26 | SeedGame | Htb |
| 12:25.26 | SeedGame | And sfq |
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| 12:26.13 | deever | thewanderer1: local-top/lvm2 |
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| 12:26.32 | thewanderer1 | deever: yeah, should run at the top (start) then |
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| 12:28.08 | tremon | SeedGame: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=traffic+shaping+htb+sfq |
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| 12:29.15 | SeedGame | Thanks tremon. |
| 12:30.20 | SeedGame | Would love to hangout here to learn stuffs :D |
| 12:30.46 | deever | thewanderer1: do you have any idea how to automate the 'vgchange -a y' at boot? |
| 12:30.51 | SeedGame | Brb |
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| 12:31.11 | Xtreme | hey guys, i installed debian |
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| 12:31.18 | Xtreme | guys how can i install firefox? |
| 12:31.25 | Xtreme | its not there in apt-get |
| 12:31.29 | daemonkeeper | deever: /etc/init.d/lvm2 already does so. |
| 12:31.32 | thewanderer1 | Xtreme: it's called iceweasel, and it comes by default |
| 12:31.43 | thewanderer1 | deever: if I were you, I imagine I'd hack the lvm2 initramfs script to do that - but it should really be done automatically |
| 12:31.52 | thewanderer1 | deever: say, is your / on LVM? |
| 12:31.52 | XLV | Xtreme, download the .deb from mozilla's web site, then use dpkg |
| 12:32.07 | Xtreme | xlv thanks |
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| 12:32.25 | daemonkeeper | XLV: err. no. |
| 12:32.41 | daemonkeeper | Xtreme: firefox is called Iceweasel in Debian. |
| 12:32.51 | daemonkeeper | Xtreme: Besides, there is no difference to Firefox |
| 12:33.11 | XLV | daemonkeeper, lots of differencies.. many extensions dont work etc |
| 12:33.21 | daemonkeeper | XLV: That's wrong. |
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| 12:33.40 | SpComb | on my debian Squeeze box, `update-rc.d -f remove nfs-common` leaves a symlink on rcS.d: rcS.d/K10nfs-common -> ../init.d/nfs-common |
| 12:33.42 | daemonkeeper | XLV: /any/ extension which works with Firefox version X works with Iceweasel C, too. |
| 12:33.48 | daemonkeeper | s/C/X/ |
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| 12:33.58 | SpComb | breaks puppet's use of `update-rc.d remove && defaults` to enable/disable services :/ |
| 12:34.19 | daemonkeeper | XLV: There is *no* technical difference between Iceweasel and Firefox. It's just that Mozilla does not like us to use their name. |
| 12:34.58 | AimHere | That's a pretty sweeping statement. THere's usually some technical difference between the Debian version and upstream |
| 12:35.11 | AimHere | But yeah, iceweasel is almost all firefox |
| 12:35.24 | XLV | yes, but, generally iceweasel lags behind in versions than ff, and several extensions that check strictly browser version dont work |
| 12:35.33 | Trieste | is it possible to install a specific version of the kernel? |
| 12:35.38 | daemonkeeper | XLV: You can use mozilla.debian.net to come over that |
| 12:35.39 | XLV | anyhow.. no problem with having ff installed too |
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| 12:36.05 | daemonkeeper | AimHere: There are backported fixes instead of upgrades in Squeeze. That's the whole reason why Mozilla does not like us to call the result Firefox. |
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| 12:36.13 | XLV | as you said yourself, its just a fork caused by legal issues |
| 12:37.20 | AimHere | There's plenty o' changes to firefox in Debian to make iceweasel. 67k of gzipped changelog |
| 12:37.28 | AimHere | (sid, not Squeeze) |
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| 12:38.15 | AimHere | A lot of that will be for packaging-specific changes of course |
| 12:38.39 | tremon | AimHere: err, that's 67k of *history*, since phoenix 0.4 |
| 12:38.39 | deever | thewanderer1: yes the / is on LVM |
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| 12:38.49 | AimHere | tremon Indeed |
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| 12:39.43 | daemonkeeper | AimHere: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-mozilla/iceweasel.git;a=tree;f=debian/patches;h=3cc1b2e741d013150e1e42662c29f4a4e1645010;hb=HEAD |
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| 12:40.22 | thewanderer1 | deever: hack the script or figure out why the codepath that should do vgchange -ay is not activated, then. I can see how it could fail with USB, though - those devices often take too long for udev to detect... |
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| 12:41.20 | SeedGame | Hello, i dont want to limit speeds but want to limit bandwidth. |
| 12:41.37 | thewanderer1 | what? O.o |
| 12:41.39 | AimHere | daemonkeeper, Well I think that proves that an emphasised "*no* technical difference" is kindof wrong |
| 12:41.54 | SeedGame | Tremor |
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| 12:42.36 | thewanderer1 | tasksel is not critical for the operation of Debian, is it? cause it's taking some space |
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| 12:42.56 | XLV | SeedGame, use trickle http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/trickle |
| 12:43.03 | tremon | thewanderer1: for me, it's the first thing to go after installing aptitude |
| 12:43.19 | XLV | SeedGame, it can limit bw per application/process |
| 12:43.31 | SeedGame | XLV, it will solve my problem? |
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| 12:44.00 | SeedGame | I want to limit bw per usr |
| 12:44.07 | thewanderer1 | tremon: well, I removed aptitude too. it's fat :P |
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| 12:48.40 | deever | thewanderer1: ah ok |
| 12:49.40 | Xtreme | guys its tar.bz on mozilla for firefox |
| 12:49.43 | Xtreme | how to install it |
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| 12:50.14 | abrotman | Xtreme: aptitude install iceweasel |
| 12:51.06 | Xtreme | abrotman, i want firefox bro |
| 12:51.16 | abrotman | Xtreme: then ask mozilla how to install it |
| 12:51.18 | abrotman | bro |
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| 12:52.50 | Devastator | 10 bucks he will try to install for tar.bz, remember, don't screw package management :) |
| 12:52.57 | Devastator | s/for/from |
| 12:53.05 | abrotman | that's his problem, apparently he knows what he's doing |
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| 12:53.54 | Devastator | let's hope you are right mr brotman |
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| 12:54.28 | tremon | any autofs wizards around? the autofs package hasn't been updated since october, but since today, accessing an auto-mounted homedir just hangs indefinitely. no nfs error either |
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| 12:54.54 | tremon | mounting manually in another dir works fine btw |
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| 12:55.46 | SeedGame | XLM, can i set bandwidth limit/user? |
| 12:55.49 | deever | thewanderer1: ah true! the "Assuming write-through" messages (dmesg) come after the errors that the lv could not be found! |
| 12:56.14 | SeedGame | I m linux n00b. |
| 12:56.20 | XLV | SeedGame, you need to install some traffic shaper for that |
| 12:56.30 | thewanderer1 | deever: no idea how to increase the timeout, but at least you know what your goal is :P |
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| 12:56.43 | SeedGame | Like htb? |
| 12:56.55 | SeedGame | Or sfq? |
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| 12:57.25 | SeedGame | As far as i knw they cap speeds. |
| 12:57.34 | SeedGame | Not bandwidth |
| 12:57.43 | SeedGame | I m right? |
| 12:58.04 | Xtreme | guys on debian, like apt-get which other pakage managers are there? |
| 12:58.07 | thewanderer1 | SeedGame: what is 'speed' and how is it related to bandwidth? |
| 12:58.33 | thewanderer1 | Xtreme: aptitude, synaptic (graphical) |
| 12:58.42 | SeedGame | :3 |
| 12:59.26 | SeedGame | I just want to cap total traffic they can use. |
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| 12:59.38 | thewanderer1 | so you mean like "10GB per day"? |
| 12:59.43 | Xtreme | thewanderer1, where can i find synaptics? |
| 12:59.44 | SeedGame | Both dl and up |
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| 12:59.53 | SeedGame | Yea wander |
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| 13:00.12 | SeedGame | I want to set for month though. |
| 13:00.21 | thewanderer1 | Xtreme: synaptic, not synaptics, and it's in the repository under the same package name |
| 13:00.27 | SeedGame | Like 12tb/month. |
| 13:00.37 | SeedGame | For each user. |
| 13:00.46 | mparodi | wow! I'm using Debian testing and let me tell you that the new kernel crashes every 3 minutes :P |
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| 13:00.55 | thewanderer1 | SeedGame: there is not a ready-made solution for that in Linux, you have to roll your own or find software which does that |
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| 13:01.31 | Xtreme | thewanderer1, thank you |
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| 13:02.13 | SeedGame | Wander, is there any pre-made software for that? :3 |
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| 13:02.49 | thewanderer1 | SeedGame: just look around, surely there is some. may be non-free though (as in, $$$) |
| 13:02.59 | SeedGame | I am not the programmer. |
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| 13:03.17 | SeedGame | I can do $$$ |
| 13:03.21 | thewanderer1 | you may want to hire one or a few, then :P |
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| 13:03.33 | SeedGame | Heh |
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| 13:03.46 | thewanderer1 | but those are already meta-discussions, far from technical issues :P |
| 13:03.54 | SeedGame | They charge alot like 100usd/hr. |
| 13:04.07 | SeedGame | Heh |
| 13:04.28 | abrotman | wait what? |
| 13:04.36 | abrotman | he wants a bandwidth cap per user? |
| 13:04.52 | SeedGame | And i dont want to go for vps solution b/c of resource hog. |
| 13:05.05 | SeedGame | Yea abrotman |
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| 13:05.49 | jelly-home | SeedGame: what kind of resource hog have you measured with openvz? |
| 13:06.23 | SeedGame | Harddisk performance. |
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| 13:06.52 | SeedGame | Which decrease the speeds. |
| 13:07.54 | thewanderer1 | with OpenVZ? huh. |
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| 13:08.03 | thewanderer1 | disable quotas, use LVM or ZFS, problem solved |
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| 13:08.15 | deever | thewanderer1: well, consequently, hacking 'vgchange -ay' into the lvm2 initramfs script doesn't help since that script is executed before the usb disk is properly detected... |
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| 13:08.32 | deever | hrm....:( |
| 13:08.44 | Xtreme | thewanderer1, how can i add my user to admin's group? |
| 13:08.47 | Xtreme | sudoes group |
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| 13:09.17 | mparodi | does anyone else have problem with kernel 3.2.0-1-amd64? it's crashing a lot |
| 13:09.32 | thewanderer1 | Xtreme: adduser <your_user> sudo |
| 13:09.54 | deever | thewanderer1: since the rootdelay seems great enough: do you know how to wait for a device being recognized in a script? ;) |
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| 13:10.16 | mparodi | in fact if I lock the session once it crashes I have to force a reboot because it freezes :| |
| 13:10.17 | SeedGame | I have xeon x3440 processor, 4x1tb disk, 16gb ram, i want to host total 8 vms on full server and 2/disk. Performance will be at its max? I am not sure. |
| 13:10.58 | mparodi | (if I'm using it, like now, it's not a problem tough.. all I see is a message on the top-right corner that says a bug report has been sent) |
| 13:11.02 | thewanderer1 | deever: look around the initramfs scripts, there should be a function for that |
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| 13:11.55 | SeedGame | Wander, performance will be gud with that setup? |
| 13:12.03 | SeedGame | At that specs |
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| 13:13.05 | Devastator | mparodi on wheezy? |
| 13:13.10 | SeedGame | I m not sure |
| 13:13.49 | mparodi | Devastator, is it the name of the current testing version? then yes (I don't know) |
| 13:14.31 | abrotman | mparodi: i386 or amd64? |
| 13:14.35 | Trieste | by the way, what kernel version does Squeeze use? |
| 13:14.40 | mparodi | amd64 |
| 13:14.49 | abrotman | Trieste: 2.6.32 by default |
| 13:14.53 | mparodi | Trellmor, uname -a |
| 13:14.56 | Trieste | abrotman: thanks |
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| 13:15.32 | Devastator | mparodi lemme update my wheezy laptop and let you know.. |
| 13:15.36 | abrotman | Trieste: that includes lots of backported security patches and driver enhancements |
| 13:15.43 | mparodi | 3.2.0-1-amd64 <-- in my case |
| 13:15.55 | abrotman | mparodi: have you install linux-image-amd64 ? |
| 13:15.58 | SeedGame | Thewanderer1, pee eem? |
| 13:16.14 | mparodi | is it required? I guess so but let me check |
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| 13:16.30 | thewanderer1 | SeedGame: it will work just fine |
| 13:16.37 | abrotman | mparodi: required, no, damn good idea, yes |
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| 13:16.47 | mparodi | ahm, interesting.. I don't have it installed |
| 13:16.49 | mparodi | (installing...) |
| 13:17.07 | abrotman | mparodi: which should also install 3.2.0-2 ? |
| 13:17.09 | Devastator | my laptop is still on 3.0.0 from pengutronix, will take a while.. |
| 13:17.18 | mparodi | linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64 |
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| 13:17.35 | abrotman | mparodi: see if that helps a bit |
| 13:17.48 | mparodi | ok, thanks! |
| 13:17.55 | SeedGame | Thanks. I am going with virtulisation with solusvm panel. |
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| 13:18.17 | mparodi | actually it's not a problem unless it's locked, in that case it freezes :) |
| 13:18.38 | thewanderer1 | mparodi: Intel graphics? try i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 |
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| 13:18.58 | SeedGame | This channel userbase is HUGE. |
| 13:19.16 | abrotman | huge? |
| 13:19.17 | Devastator | thewanderer1 in his case i think it's kernel related.. |
| 13:19.33 | abrotman | mparodi: does it lock without X? |
| 13:19.35 | SeedGame | :3 |
| 13:20.05 | mparodi | abrotman, no, in KDE, when you lock the screen |
| 13:20.08 | SeedGame | Debian FTW |
| 13:20.41 | abrotman | mparodi: does it lock with other WMs when you lock the screen? like in gnome? |
| 13:20.44 | abrotman | or LXDE |
| 13:20.51 | mparodi | or more precisely when you close the lid |
| 13:20.57 | thewanderer1 | Devastator: yes, and it's the kernel who handles the graphics (sadly) |
| 13:20.59 | SeedGame | Brb |
| 13:21.40 | Devastator | thewanderer1 ok, you got me :) |
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| 13:21.59 | mparodi | <abrotman> mparodi: does it lock with other WMs when you lock the screen? like in gnome? <- I don't think so |
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| 13:22.16 | abrotman | mparodi: so the kernel isn't actually the problem? it's actually KDE ? |
| 13:22.30 | Devastator | have you tested or are you just assuming? |
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| 13:22.54 | thewanderer1 | hmm, I don't recall the KDE in testing to be very stable, but I haven't seen freezes for the last few months |
| 13:23.01 | mparodi | I suppose it's the kernel because as I told you it shows a notification of a kernel bug report every 3~5 minutes :P |
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| 13:24.08 | Eninem | and my heart beatz |
| 13:24.10 | Devastator | can you tell which module is causing the bug reports? |
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| 13:25.20 | mparodi | Devastator, tell me how and I will try (I already tried but I couldn't find what exactly is crashing) |
| 13:25.58 | Devastator | can you pastebin the call trace? |
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| 13:26.19 | abrotman | mparodi: also, is your system totally up to date? |
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| 13:26.34 | mparodi | abrotman, yep, it is |
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| 13:26.44 | abrotman | mparodi: except your kernel ? |
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| 13:26.56 | mparodi | no, it's up to date too |
| 13:27.04 | tremon | ,versions linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64 |
| 13:27.05 | judd | Package: linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64 on i386 -- sid: 3.2.15-1; wheezy: 3.2.15-1 |
| 13:27.14 | abrotman | mparodi: you already rebooted ? |
| 13:27.19 | mparodi | many times |
| 13:27.27 | abrotman | mparodi: since you updated it 10 minutes ago ? |
| 13:27.43 | mparodi | well, sure not, I'm still here hehe |
| 13:27.54 | abrotman | okay .. you need to reboot to make the new kernel active |
| 13:28.06 | mparodi | ok, see you in a minute then |
| 13:28.10 | abrotman | hopefully ... |
| 13:28.15 | mparodi | :) |
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| 13:30.48 | mparodi | Done |
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| 13:31.15 | slikts_ | I'm basically shocked that python2.7 isn't in squeeze repos |
| 13:31.18 | abrotman | mparodi: let's also make sure the rest of your box is up to date ... aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade |
| 13:31.32 | abrotman | slikts_: why? squeeze froze 18 months ago |
| 13:31.41 | abrotman | released 14 months ago |
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| 13:32.53 | slikts_ | abrotman: I don't know, because it's really inconvenient |
| 13:32.54 | mparodi | aptitude sucks to make upgrades u.u |
| 13:33.36 | abrotman | mparodi: no, it's fine, and on testing, it's probably a really good idea |
| 13:34.01 | abrotman | mparodi: but hey, it's your opinion .. based on what you're telling me, KDE sucks .. happy now ? |
| 13:34.19 | abrotman | slikts_: sure, but Debian doesn't just slam new versions of base packages into a stable release |
| 13:34.23 | mparodi | no, aptitude's always trying to remove everything to solve the dependencies problems u.u |
| 13:34.57 | slikts_ | abrotman: why is python2.7 also not in squeeze backports? |
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| 13:35.11 | mparodi | full-upgrade -> Remove the following packages: \n [...] \n kdm |
| 13:35.12 | abrotman | mparodi: there's probably a good reason for that .. but apparently you know what you're doing .. so i'll let you figure it out, good luck |
| 13:35.12 | mparodi | WTF!? |
| 13:35.36 | mparodi | it wants to remove kdm! :P |
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| 13:35.43 | abrotman | slikts_: because the python maintainers don't think it's important or don't want to make the effort, or more likely, it's a really bad idea |
| 13:35.52 | abrotman | mparodi: this is probably why your box is crashing |
| 13:35.56 | slikts_ | abrotman: why would it be a bad idea? |
| 13:36.05 | abrotman | mparodi: you probably have been using apt-get for a few weeks, and you're far out of date |
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| 13:36.18 | abrotman | slikts_: you're replacing a core binary? python ? |
| 13:36.42 | slikts_ | uhhhh, you can provide both 2.6 and 2.7? |
| 13:36.44 | mparodi | abrotman, I usually use apt-get yes |
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| 13:36.53 | abrotman | mparodi: which apt-get ? |
| 13:37.11 | abrotman | slikts_: you're arguing with the wrong person .. if you want to do it, we can't stop you, but Debian isn't going to do it for oyu |
| 13:37.11 | slikts_ | abrotman: this is why it's a WTF situation |
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| 13:37.22 | mparodi | apt 0.8.15.10 for amd64 compiled on Mar 6 2012 14:33:57 |
| 13:37.33 | abrotman | mparodi: that wasn't what i meant .. which commands? |
| 13:37.36 | nkuttler | slikts_: why do you need 2.7 anyway? |
| 13:37.42 | mparodi | ah |
| 13:37.53 | slikts_ | nkuttler: because my code relies on features added in 2.7? |
| 13:38.05 | mparodi | apt-get upgrade |
| 13:38.13 | mparodi | if I just want to upgrade |
| 13:38.14 | abrotman | mparodi: okay .. let's try it my way .. because your way sucks |
| 13:38.20 | mparodi | haha |
| 13:38.25 | nkuttler | slikts_: so fix your code |
| 13:38.27 | abrotman | mparodi: aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade .. use a pastebin, show us |
| 13:38.34 | nkuttler | slikts_: and next time plan ahead before deploying.. |
| 13:38.36 | mparodi | remove kdm is not an option |
| 13:38.42 | abrotman | mparodi: PASTE |
| 13:38.42 | mparodi | but let me show you, 1 minute |
| 13:38.47 | abrotman | god ... stop freaking arguing |
| 13:38.56 | slikts_ | nkuttler: that's a laugh, it's not "fixing" if I have to make it less nice |
| 13:39.02 | abrotman | less nice :) |
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| 13:39.17 | slikts_ | 2.7 made the particular apis easier or nicer to use |
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| 13:39.29 | slikts_ | you have to be an idiot not to appreciate API clarity and ease of use |
| 13:39.50 | mparodi | http://paste.debian.net/164200/ |
| 13:39.53 | mparodi | isn't it insane? |
| 13:39.55 | tremon | slikts_: you have to be an even bigger idiot to prefer api clarity over system stability |
| 13:40.05 | abrotman | mparodi: you know what's insane, having a half-updated system |
| 13:40.11 | slikts_ | tremon: spoken like a true crab |
| 13:40.15 | abrotman | OMG |
| 13:40.16 | nkuttler | slikts_: it's also not very smart not to have deployment in mind during dev.. |
| 13:40.16 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 13:40.28 | TuRnaD0 | WTF, i just installed debian, but the disktop is not starting? when GNUB starts i wait, and then it ask me for the password ? |
| 13:40.30 | mparodi | http://paste.debian.net/164201/ <-- using apt-get |
| 13:40.36 | abrotman | mparodi: NO SHIT .. it's not working |
| 13:40.46 | abrotman | mparodi: run the aptitude .. we'll fix KDM in a minute |
| 13:40.58 | abrotman | mparodi: your method is CLEARLY NOT WORKING |
| 13:41.09 | abrotman | mparodi: if you run testing, and your system is half not updated, shit starts breaking |
| 13:41.27 | abrotman | mparodi: wait, let's try another thing first before the full-upgrade |
| 13:41.50 | tremon | I would r17, enter, n, enter, paste again |
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| 13:42.11 | slikts_ | I'm sure having a separate python2.7 would make debian really unstable |
| 13:42.12 | abrotman | mparodi: aptitude update;aptitude install kde-standard ... paste that |
| 13:42.42 | slikts_ | it's not like python 2.7 has been out and tested for years now or anything |
| 13:42.42 | abrotman | mparodi: i'm sorry, use the kde-full package, not kde-standard |
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| 13:42.49 | abrotman | slikts_: you're still arguing with teh wrong people |
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| 13:43.30 | cantido | has python2.7 :) |
| 13:43.40 | abrotman | judd: versions python2.7 |
| 13:43.40 | judd | Package: python2.7 on i386 -- wheezy: 2.7.2-8; sid: 2.7.3~rc2-2 |
| 13:43.45 | mparodi | http://paste.debian.net/164203/ abramart |
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| 13:43.57 | SpComb | is there some package that includes the kernel "Documentation/" files for the current stable kernel? |
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| 13:44.10 | slikts_ | abrotman: you're right, I'll just go jump through the hoops and then file this in the mental shelve labeled "disgusting aspects of debian" |
| 13:44.28 | nkuttler | SpComb: the source package should have it at least |
| 13:44.33 | abrotman | slikts_: well, that's your choice |
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| 13:44.45 | abrotman | mparodi: are you at the console or in X ? |
| 13:44.53 | mparodi | console |
| 13:45.00 | slikts_ | abrotman: I coudln't feel otherwise as a matter of conscience |
| 13:45.00 | cantido | SpComb: there is a package linux-doc-3.3 available for me that apparently has the kernel docs in it |
| 13:45.05 | mparodi | well, I'm in X here, kde is running of course |
| 13:45.07 | cantido | SpComb: the source packages should have it too |
| 13:45.28 | abrotman | mparodi: can you IRC from the console with irssi? or you don't know how to use it? |
| 13:45.41 | Harzilein | slikts_: why do you need 2.7 as a _system python_? |
| 13:45.48 | cantido | SpComb: actually, linux-doc seems to be a metapackage that points to the right one :) |
| 13:46.01 | SpComb | cantido: thanks, linux-doc-2.6 looks like what I want |
| 13:46.17 | mparodi | I know but I'm not willing to do a full-upgrade with aptitude, there's a 99% prob that it won't start again u.u |
| 13:46.21 | slikts_ | Harzilein: I specifically and repeatedly said that I'd be fine to have it as a separate python, I just want it to come from the backports repo at least |
| 13:46.33 | abrotman | mparodi: you can't keep delaying this ... |
| 13:46.46 | abrotman | mparodi: your system is in a horrible shitty state because you're been updating incorrectly |
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| 13:47.00 | Harzilein | slikts_: don't pythonists have something akin to perlbrew or rvm? |
| 13:47.01 | abrotman | slikts_: what about making your own backport? |
| 13:47.01 | themill | slikts_: it wouldn't work properly so it there wouldn't be any point in offering it in backports. What specific features of 2.7 do you need btw? |
| 13:47.02 | tremon | mparodi: if you fear upgrading, you shouldn't be running testing |
| 13:47.09 | slikts_ | Harzilein: there's pythonbrew |
| 13:47.26 | mparodi | tremon, I assume you didn't read what it will try to do ¬¬ |
| 13:47.28 | abrotman | mparodi: let's install another WM and DM and get you in that system, and we'll go from there .. |
| 13:47.36 | abrotman | mparodi: he's right |
| 13:47.45 | slikts_ | abrotman: last time I tried making a backport the compile process failed with a cryptic error, so no thanks |
| 13:47.46 | Harzilein | slikts_: if you need a recent python version in order to deploy your bleeding edge web application or something, just use that then? |
| 13:47.48 | abrotman | mparodi: do you know how to use fluxbox or something like that ? |
| 13:48.10 | Harzilein | slikts_: i'm sure system level scripting can do without 2.7 goodies |
| 13:48.19 | slikts_ | Harzilein: I was actually googling for whether pythonbrew works debian in the background :) |
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| 13:48.51 | Harzilein | slikts_: i'd recommend you install to the home directory of the user your application will run as |
| 13:48.53 | slikts_ | Harzilein: yes, it can do without it |
| 13:48.58 | mparodi | what's the problem with apt-get and in that case why it's still there (if it's that bad)? |
| 13:48.59 | cantido | slikts_: the kernel in squeeze should have LXC too, you could run a wheezy container just for python |
| 13:49.04 | Harzilein | slikts_: that should make it distribution independent |
| 13:49.04 | slikts_ | themill: it's lxml etree |
| 13:49.14 | abrotman | mparodi: are you going to keep arguing and be stuck with a busted system? |
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| 13:49.39 | mparodi | you didn't answer, and I'm not arguing, I want to know, that's it |
| 13:49.52 | abrotman | mparodi: it's not bad, it's the way you're using it |
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| 13:50.22 | abrotman | thinks we need a "testing TLC" factoid to help people understand how to run testing a bit better |
| 13:50.26 | cantido | if aptitude was that bad it wouldn't be part of the default install :) |
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| 13:50.39 | slikts_ | cantido: doing that in a VPS (i.e. resource constrained) environment doesn't sound good |
| 13:50.49 | themill | slikts_: that's in python 2.6 already |
| 13:50.51 | abrotman | mparodi: do you know how to use fluxbox or some other WM ? |
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| 13:50.58 | mparodi | yes |
| 13:51.04 | slikts_ | themill: but there are differences between 2.6/2.7 in that |
| 13:51.14 | abrotman | mparodi: okay, aptitude install fluxbox xdm |
| 13:51.22 | slikts_ | it doesn't matter, sorry for bitching here |
| 13:51.24 | abrotman | mparodi: make xdm the default DM |
| 13:51.37 | abrotman | mparodi: then logout of KDE, and into fluxbox |
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| 13:52.07 | abrotman | mparodi: i realize this is a huge pain, but your system is in a pretty awful state |
| 13:52.08 | themill | slikts_: sure they're not differences in the lxml module (or in libxml itself)? |
| 13:52.33 | mparodi | the next step is a full upgrade, right? u.u |
| 13:52.34 | slikts_ | themill: more or less |
| 13:52.37 | Harzilein | slikts_: can't the differences be contained in some class in your application that mixes in either 2.6- or 2.7-specific wrapper methods? |
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| 13:52.49 | abrotman | mparodi: we're going to do this in a few phases .. but first i'd rather have you out of KDE |
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| 13:53.16 | slikts_ | Harzilein: it's not worth the complexity just for niceties |
| 13:54.04 | abrotman | slikts_: are you surprised your app is being deployed on Squeeze? |
| 13:54.41 | slikts_ | abrotman: no, I'm just a debian noob |
| 13:54.49 | abrotman | oh, okay |
| 13:55.02 | mparodi | I'm installing gnome, I haven't used v3 so it's a good opportunity to do so |
| 13:55.25 | abrotman | okay .. that's kind of like fluxbox :) |
| 13:55.51 | mparodi | so WHY apt-get upgrade is a bad idea? |
| 13:55.55 | cantido | What's a decent flash card app? |
| 13:55.58 | Devastator | gnome is lightweight.. NOT |
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| 13:56.06 | abrotman | cantido: hypercard? :) |
| 13:56.12 | mparodi | you should give me a good answer |
| 13:56.20 | abrotman | mparodi: because you're not doing the upgrades you should be doing .. it's misisng a ton of packages |
| 13:56.26 | abrotman | mparodi: you haven't read the apt-get man page .. |
| 13:56.36 | cantido | abrotman: apt-cache doesn't know about it :/ |
| 13:56.46 | abrotman | cantido: it was a joke, it's an old MacOS app |
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| 13:56.57 | abrotman | cantido: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard |
| 13:57.00 | Devastator | mparodi you know aptitude is safer, right? |
| 13:57.29 | themill | Devastator: fsvo safer. There are many things that aptitude screws up that apt-get gets right and vice versa. |
| 13:57.35 | mparodi | I don't know if it's safer but it's extreme, if it can't resolve a dependency it will ask you to execute a rm -rf / ¬¬ |
| 13:57.36 | abrotman | cantido: apt-cache search flashcard |
| 13:57.43 | abrotman | mparodi: that's not true and you know it |
| 13:57.58 | cantido | tagainijisho looks like that app I want :) |
| 13:57.59 | abrotman | mparodi: your inexperience is how you got in this situation .. don't blame the tools |
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| 13:59.00 | Devastator | themill that's new to me, but thanks for the advice, never had problem with safe-upgrade/full-upgrade |
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| 13:59.46 | abrotman | Devastator: there are corner cases where aptitude is the worse tool, but it's rare |
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| 14:00.04 | themill | Devastator: you'll notice that the release notes for squeeze specifically tell you to use apt-get to upgrade from lenny. The release notes for wheezy are highly likely to say exactly the same. |
| 14:00.10 | Xtreme | guys how can i check hdd partition in debian? |
| 14:00.17 | abrotman | Xtreme: check it for what? |
| 14:00.29 | Xtreme | hdd partitions |
| 14:00.32 | Xtreme | like parted |
| 14:00.43 | cantido | Xtreme: fdisk |
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| 14:00.51 | abrotman | cat /proc/partitions ? |
| 14:01.02 | Xtreme | not there preinstalled |
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| 14:01.41 | Xtreme | fdisk is ther |
| 14:01.47 | Xtreme | how to print partitions? |
| 14:01.55 | cantido | man fdisk |
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| 14:02.00 | abrotman | Xtreme: have you tried looking at the help system in fdisk ? |
| 14:02.02 | Devastator | themill 99,9% of time i follow instructions to the letter |
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| 14:02.21 | Devastator | so if dpkg says to use apt-get i use it, but anyway, good info |
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| 14:02.53 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 14:03.17 | Devastator | thanks abrotman i will be more careful next time i use apt-get/aptitude :) |
| 14:03.22 | ZenWalker | smplayer sound is ok, but on totem the sound is off, why? |
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| 14:04.10 | ZenWalker | (testing) |
| 14:04.10 | Devastator | will aptitude replace apt-get in the future? |
| 14:04.20 | abrotman | Devastator: currently it cannot, they don't have the same features |
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| 14:05.17 | Devastator | i mean is that the general idea or it's just an option for those who prefer aptitude? |
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| 14:08.56 | ws2k3 | how i search in debian for files ? |
| 14:09.06 | Devastator | use find |
| 14:09.11 | valdyn | !tell ws2k3 -about search |
| 14:09.36 | ws2k3 | thx but i need files not packages |
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| 14:09.45 | ws2k3 | i'm looking for one text file |
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| 14:09.53 | abrotman | did you read the whole factoid? |
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| 14:10.10 | abrotman | or perhaps your question should be more specific |
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| 14:10.31 | ws2k3 | i just wanne search the filesystem for a file named ban.txtr |
| 14:10.33 | ws2k3 | that all |
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| 14:10.52 | Devastator | find / -name ban.txt |
| 14:10.53 | themill | ws2k3: locate |
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| 14:13.00 | ws2k3 | ty |
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| 14:16.50 | abrotman | mparodi: still going over there? |
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| 14:17.04 | mparodi | yep, it's still downloading |
| 14:17.14 | abrotman | this is why i'd suggested fluxbox .. it's small :) |
| 14:17.36 | mparodi | I knew, but I wanted to try gnome |
| 14:18.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... make sure it doesn't widdle into your pond is all I'm saying |
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| 14:19.35 | mms_ | I have 250 meg video file mpeg file. how can I reduce its size so I can upload to facebook quick ? |
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| 14:20.05 | wp | what would be the recommended way to install a package from testing on squeeze? the package is not listed on backports? |
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| 14:20.29 | abrotman | wp: which package ? |
| 14:20.36 | wp | pdns-server |
| 14:20.38 | abrotman | mms_: you'd have to re-encode it |
| 14:20.41 | abrotman | !tell wp about ssb |
| 14:20.43 | abrotman | good luck! |
| 14:20.47 | wp | thanks so much! |
| 14:20.50 | wp | :) |
| 14:20.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | mms_, upload to youtube and let them recode it for you :P |
| 14:21.10 | wp | abrotman: i found some 'old' articles though ;) |
| 14:21.19 | mms_ | man cannot I just do some processing locally ? |
| 14:21.23 | wp | just wondering what latest howto was heh |
| 14:21.30 | mms_ | how to re-encode ? |
| 14:21.39 | mms_ | any tool ? |
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| 14:21.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | sure... |
| 14:22.01 | Devastator | how does debian backports works? I mean, how packages are selected to be backported? |
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| 14:22.05 | mms_ | my format is mpeg |
| 14:22.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | mms_, but quality sucks with the defaults... |
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| 14:22.23 | abrotman | Devastator: i believe it's up to the individual maintainers |
| 14:22.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | mms_, ffmpeg for example |
| 14:22.37 | mms_ | let me check |
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| 14:22.41 | Nek | Heya all |
| 14:23.03 | Nek | I have a big problem with pure-ftpd-mysql. He refuse all connections. |
| 14:23.14 | Nek | And i don't know what is worng ! |
| 14:23.29 | Nek | do you now where i can find logs and errors ? |
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| 14:23.40 | abrotman | /var/log/ might be a good start |
| 14:24.00 | Devastator | abrotman i see, well, it's not that hard to backport manually anyway, thanks! |
| 14:24.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | mms_, there's even graphical frontends that are supposed to make it easy... but nothing really good... actually I finally found something that I found satisfactory... but my desktop died 3 days ago, so it's not in my history |
| 14:25.04 | Xtreme | guys how to install rpm file? |
| 14:25.05 | mms_ | popular video editing tools should do it right ? |
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| 14:25.23 | mms_ | so which is easy to use video editing tool ? |
| 14:25.26 | abrotman | Xtreme: have you tried to use google for any of your questions ? |
| 14:25.30 | abrotman | mms_: VLC might be able to do it |
| 14:25.41 | mms_ | might ??? |
| 14:25.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | Xtreme, alien |
| 14:26.05 | themill | Xtreme: the usual answer to that is "don't". What are you trying to do? |
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| 14:26.33 | Nek | abrotman, I don't find any correct log |
| 14:26.34 | Nek | :/ |
| 14:26.37 | Devastator | themill if i recall, he's trying to install firefox |
| 14:26.41 | Xtreme | themill, i am trying to install jdk/ |
| 14:26.48 | Xtreme | but there are two file, rpm and tar |
| 14:26.51 | Devastator | jdk? |
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| 14:27.07 | Xtreme | java development kit |
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| 14:27.25 | Devastator | i believe there's a package already in debian |
| 14:27.25 | sary | mms_: try Transmageddon |
| 14:27.26 | wp | abrotman: im running squeeze and found the correct pdns-server version in wheezy(testing), how would i do that? |
| 14:27.31 | Xtreme | so i was wondering if there is a way to isntall it graphical way like in rethat |
| 14:27.34 | Xtreme | redhat* |
| 14:27.38 | wp | abrotman: found it on backports |
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| 14:28.12 | abrotman | wp: what? |
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| 14:28.32 | wp | sorry :) |
| 14:28.42 | abrotman | judd: versions pdns-server |
| 14:28.43 | judd | Package: pdns-server on i386 -- lenny: 2.9.21.2-1+lenny1; lenny-security: 2.9.21.2-1+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.9.22-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.9.22-8+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.9.22-8+squeeze1; sid: 3.0-1.1+b1; wheezy: 3.0-1.1+b1 |
| 14:28.54 | abrotman | wp: see what the bot told you about ssb |
| 14:29.03 | Devastator | Xtreme you want oracle jdk? |
| 14:29.10 | Xtreme | yup :) |
| 14:29.12 | themill | Xtreme: which version of debian is this for? |
| 14:29.20 | Xtreme | sqeezu |
| 14:29.22 | Xtreme | sqeeze |
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| 14:29.56 | wp | abrotman: yeah, its also not in sid, so would that mean i have to build it from source? |
| 14:29.57 | themill | Xtreme: you have openjdk-6-jdk already available to you just an apt-get away... |
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| 14:30.01 | Devastator | Xtreme use the non-free repo, aptitude update, aptitude install sun-java6-jdk |
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| 14:30.30 | Devastator | Xtreme but there are open alternatives, like themill said |
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| 14:31.25 | Xtreme | well phpstorm doesnt support others |
| 14:31.26 | Xtreme | :( |
| 14:31.31 | abrotman | wp: /msg dpkg uupdate |
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| 14:32.13 | Xtreme | so i should downlaod .rpm file from oracle, and isntall it using alien (coz its version 7, and repos have version 6 :) |
| 14:34.02 | thewanderer1 | Xtreme: well, do you *need* version 7? |
| 14:34.46 | themill | Xtreme: can you point to where phpstorm says it (a) can't use openjdk and (b) needs jdk7 not jdk6? |
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| 14:35.44 | Xtreme | themill, for a) try to run it, it will give error on openjdk, b, it doesnt, but i need it to learn |
| 14:36.13 | wp | abrotman: who can i contact to make a pdns-server backport? the pdns community or ..? |
| 14:36.17 | themill | Xtreme: their own documentation says that it works with openjdk. And no, you don't need it to learn php... |
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| 14:36.46 | abrotman | wp: the maintainer |
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| 14:37.21 | Guest378 | Hi |
| 14:37.38 | Guest378 | Why items in menu Places open with VLC? |
| 14:37.53 | Guest378 | I tryed remove purge vlc |
| 14:37.59 | Guest378 | and open with... |
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| 14:38.25 | Guest378 | but any item placed over the Place menu is opening with vlc |
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| 14:42.08 | Guest378 | I have debian squeeze and gnome2 |
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| 14:42.47 | somiaj | sounds like a nautilus issue |
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| 14:48.57 | Guest378 | somiaj: or gnome issuse |
| 14:49.06 | Guest378 | *issue |
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| 14:50.04 | nsadmin | Guest378 had you edited anything, loike config files? |
| 14:50.06 | somiaj | well these are menus you get when browsing your files I am assuming. So you need to configure nautilus to reconize the application differently. I belive there is a way to configure this, but as I don't use gnome I don't know |
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| 14:50.26 | mparodi | abrotman, done |
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| 14:51.58 | zW | Hi. |
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| 14:52.21 | nsadmin | hi |
| 14:52.50 | zW | I see alot of tcp6 connections in netstat, my server is under a port attack. The strange thing is that in ip6tables all my policies are DROPPED (INPUT/OUTPUT/FORWARD) |
| 14:52.59 | zW | any clue why I still see those connections ? |
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| 14:53.33 | zW | example: tcp6 2305 0 217.21.184.210:80 81.165.38.14:50283 |
| 14:54.27 | vlade_imir | zW: it is aven stranger that you have tcp6 on ipv4 ;) |
| 14:54.56 | thewanderer1 | zW: it's a tcp6 socket because Linux automatically listens on both protocols when you make an AF_INET socket and listen on it. |
| 14:54.57 | mparodi | abrotman, so..? |
| 14:55.42 | thewanderer1 | zW: the traffic is coming in over tcp in reality, it's just that the underlying *socket type* is AF_INET6 |
| 14:56.39 | zW | thewanderer1: mmm I am under a distributed port attack on port 80 |
| 14:56.46 | zW | anu clue on how to block that ? |
| 14:56.51 | thewanderer1 | zW: ask your ISP. |
| 14:56.51 | zW | Maybe ratelimt on port 80 ? |
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| 14:57.11 | thewanderer1 | well, maybe, but then you will be dropping legitimate connections too |
| 14:57.14 | zW | thewanderer1: we are the ISP :) Maybe I can block it on my routers ... then again, it is distributed |
| 14:57.28 | thewanderer1 | block it at the ISP from whom they are outbound |
| 14:57.50 | thewanderer1 | also, just identify the attackers and block their IPs one by one |
| 14:57.55 | zW | thewanderer1: it is distributed. I already seen about 11.000 uniq IP's |
| 14:57.57 | thewanderer1 | you could use ipsets |
| 14:58.16 | thewanderer1 | well, with a hash table, a 11.000-element ipset should still be not-so-slow |
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| 14:58.48 | thewanderer1 | and perhaps block whole subnets if you think they couldn't possibly be legitimate users |
| 14:59.02 | zW | thewanderer1: except for _many_ connections I can't really figure out what the legimate connections are |
| 14:59.06 | tremon | zW: are your legitimate users confined to a country/region? |
| 14:59.16 | zW | tremon: no |
| 14:59.18 | tremon | ah... nvm then :) |
| 14:59.31 | zW | We are talking about a webserver |
| 14:59.40 | nsadmin | zW.you can't be THE isp... even if you're an ISP you must have one |
| 14:59.47 | thewanderer1 | zW: something like fail2ban should help I guess, if you manage to run it with ipsets instead of single rules |
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| 15:00.15 | zW | The strange thing is that I only see it on tcp6 |
| 15:00.18 | zW | and none on tcp |
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| 15:00.35 | zW | Maybe disableing ip6 would help ? |
| 15:00.54 | tremon | zW: did you (inadvertently) advertise a public 6to4 relay? |
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| 15:01.39 | zW | tremon: no |
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| 15:03.03 | TuRnaD0 | gnome dos not start after install, can anybody help ? |
| 15:03.16 | zW | tremon: can't I just disable ipv6 or something ? |
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| 15:04.29 | Gediminas | zW, and why would you want to do so? |
| 15:04.40 | tremon | zW: that won't help if the packets are entering over ipv4 |
| 15:05.15 | tremon | zW: to exclude possible relay issues, you could drop ipv4 protocol 41 (6in4) |
| 15:05.47 | alo_alo | zW i think that, if the attack method is syn flood you have to call your isp... |
| 15:06.37 | Gediminas | heh, and how he can identify that it waas SYN flood? ;] |
| 15:06.46 | alo_alo | :) |
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| 15:09.36 | Gediminas | if it was SYN flood with 11.000 uniq IP's.. that server would be unreachable.. ;) |
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| 15:14.03 | Slamd64 | Hello. I would like to know how to make the volume bar like on xubuntu, so it would look like this: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2011_2/xubuntu-music-integration.jpg |
| 15:14.20 | Xtreme | guys can i install flash player from repositories? |
| 15:14.29 | themill | dpkg: tell Xtreme about adobe flash |
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| 15:18.01 | abrotman | mparodi: did you get instructions ? |
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| 15:18.24 | mparodi | abramart, I was waiting for your instructions |
| 15:18.31 | mparodi | :P |
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| 15:19.04 | abrotman | mparodi: are you in gnome? |
| 15:19.28 | mparodi | I was but as you weren't here I changed to KDE again. 1 minute |
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| 15:20.50 | mparodi | abrotman, now I am |
| 15:21.16 | abrotman | mparodi: aptitude update; aptitude full-upgrade .. let it uninstall stuff, when it's done, aptitude install kde-full |
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| 15:21.30 | loddafnir | hello does anybody know why this mapping between device and path fails? |
| 15:21.31 | loddafnir | root@h1937418:/boot/grub# grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs /boot/grub |
| 15:21.32 | loddafnir | grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem. |
| 15:21.32 | loddafnir | root@h1937418:/boot/grub# grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs /dev/sda |
| 15:21.32 | loddafnir | ext2 |
| 15:21.46 | loddafnir | grub-pc fails to install |
| 15:21.51 | abrotman | mparodi: bbiab .. that'll take you a bit .. |
| 15:22.09 | loddafnir | both /dev/sda & /dev/sdb detect correct ext2 fs |
| 15:22.26 | abrotman | mparodi: when you're done with all of that, make sure KDM is installed? |
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| 15:22.42 | valdyn | loddafnir: you mean sda1 / sdb1, not sda or sdb |
| 15:23.10 | loddafnir | valdyn: the same |
| 15:23.11 | loddafnir | root@h1937418:/boot/grub# grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs /dev/sdb1 |
| 15:23.12 | loddafnir | ext2 |
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| 15:23.15 | mparodi | ok, it's already downloading the new packages |
| 15:23.17 | Gediminas | there is no difference sda/sdb, or sda1/sdb1 |
| 15:23.27 | mparodi | it'll take 25 minutes at least |
| 15:23.29 | valdyn | Gediminas: ummm |
| 15:23.46 | krisfremen | Gediminas: sdX is the hard disk sdXY is the partition |
| 15:23.51 | Gediminas | you can install grub to sda or sda1, it depends on layout |
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| 15:24.29 | valdyn | Gediminas: its a big difference |
| 15:24.53 | loddafnir | it fails already in process of installation of grub-pc, i am not at the point to grub-install it yet |
| 15:25.07 | loddafnir | the device.map is also created |
| 15:25.20 | loddafnir | root@h1937418:/boot/grub# cat device.map |
| 15:25.21 | loddafnir | (hd0)/dev/disk/by-id/ata-Hitachi_HDS721010CLA332_JP6940HZ0RES5F |
| 15:25.21 | loddafnir | (hd1)/dev/disk/by-id/ata-Hitachi_HDS721010CLA332_JP6940HZ0UPMPF |
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| 15:26.03 | loddafnir | sda1 & sdb1 are raid1-md partition |
| 15:26.16 | loddafnir | grub2 version, not leagacy |
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| 15:27.22 | loddafnir | but also md0- boot partition is correctly detected |
| 15:27.23 | loddafnir | root@h1937418:/boot/grub# grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs /dev/md0 |
| 15:27.23 | loddafnir | ext2 |
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| 15:28.47 | dcorbin | I recently upgraded my debian system, and now svn won't work because the bdb version is different. I found a few google hits describing what to do. However, all the stuff they point at seems to be missing. At this point, what I think I want is a Debian 5.0 Live CD, but I cannot find one. Everything is either "current", or a bad link. Any suggestions? |
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| 15:30.44 | mms_ | to reduce file size of mpeg using program like transmageddon what should I do ? convert to different format ? |
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| 15:31.16 | valdyn | !archive |
| 15:31.17 | dpkg | archive is, like, a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 15:31.26 | themill | dcorbin: running "svnadmin upgrade" on the repo should be sufficient |
| 15:31.56 | themill | ("svnadmin recover" perhaps also being necessary) |
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| 15:32.51 | tremon | mms_: you need to read up on video codecs and what they do. Here are some of your options: reduce framerate, lower resolution, lower quality, interlace, use better codec |
| 15:33.05 | thewanderer1 | dcorbin: you can still build a lenny chroot with debootstrap, just point it at the proper URL (i.e. archive, not the usual one) |
| 15:33.28 | thewanderer1 | that is, if you don't manage to fix it the "easy way" as suggested by themill :P |
| 15:33.35 | dcorbin | themill: thanks. In progress now. |
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| 15:34.12 | tremon | dcorbin: I've ran into this before, but many years back. iirc, there is a bdb tool to "convert" a database so that it works with a higher version of bdb |
| 15:34.37 | themill | tremon: yeah, iirc that's what svn recover is doing. |
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| 15:35.31 | tremon | thanks :) |
| 15:35.39 | siftyer | hello, i have this http://www.eprg.org/pdfcorner/text2pdf/text2pdf.1 troff manapge, how can i install it in a system wide fashion so that any user just has to type "man text2pdf" and he/she will get the manpage in a pager? |
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| 15:35.58 | Slamd64 | so, nobody knows the name of this volume applet: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2011_2/xubuntu-music-integration.jpg ? |
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| 15:36.51 | tremon | Slamd64: try on #xubuntu or #ubuntu |
| 15:37.00 | Slamd64 | ok thanks |
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| 15:38.34 | orflon | hello, I have an issue of "suspend failed" when my laptop is inactive. I installed some more packages and I would like to debug that issue. I have 2 questions: 1) in power management when it says "action: sleep after inactive for 10 minutes" that is *suspend* after 10 minutes? 2) Can't I force a suspend situation or should I wait for 10 minutes? How could I debug it? |
| 15:39.07 | themill | siftyer: sticking it in /usr/local/man/man1/text2pdf.1 and updating the man db should be sufficient. |
| 15:39.18 | siftyer | themill: how do i update the man db? |
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| 15:40.11 | siftyer | themill: by the way, there are 'man1' 'man3' 'man5' and 'man8' in /usr/local/man/ |
| 15:40.57 | themill | siftyer: sure -- you must have created them yourself at some stage -- but as you can see from that man page, it belongs in section 1 of the manual. |
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| 15:42.02 | siftyer | to update the db just run mandb? |
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| 15:43.22 | themill | siftyer: the man db is regenerated daily from cron or when you install packages that install new man pages. I can't recall what options mandb wants to do that properly.... you could just run its cron job from cron.daily... |
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| 15:45.11 | siftyer | themill: just sticking it in /usr/local/man/man1/ and running mandb did the job |
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| 15:45.27 | robin_debspace | Hi all… OK well, I've got a little problem here… I'm running 2 Debian servers, one of which is just a virtual machine functioning as a backup machine. Well, before I thought it would be a good idea to upgrade it to Testing, as I especially wanted the latest build of Apache and Nagios… So I edited my sources.list and changed all the "Squeeze" parts to "testing", then did aptitude update and aptitude full-upgrade… This went through just fine, |
| 15:45.34 | siftyer | (though mandb says that no man related subdirs have been modified) |
| 15:46.24 | siftyer | themill: how would i manually run such a cron.daily cronjob? |
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| 15:46.55 | [HaldriK] | Hi, everybody |
| 15:46.57 | robin_debspace | Though I think it's probably not booting up anymore, as I can't even ping the server at this time. |
| 15:46.58 | [HaldriK] | I have a problem with my audio system, I'm using phonon-backend-vlc, because it is light , around 18% of cpu consuption on amarok, using gstreamer got around 32% of cpu consuption. The problem is sometimes using vlc I hear some glitches or jumps reproducing audio with amarok, but reproducing audio with vlc directly don't have problems. I think vlc-backend is a good option but it seems like have problems with process priority, it is on Debian Wheezy. |
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| 15:47.52 | themill | siftyer: "/etc/cron.daily/man-db" (but if it's working, don't worry about it) |
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| 15:48.36 | siftyer | themill: thanks for the help! |
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| 15:54.30 | gnugr | [Haldrik]:i also use "phonon-backend-vlc" with no prob at all, but i think you better ask about it in #debian-kde |
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| 15:56.14 | orflon | anyone? |
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| 15:57.24 | mparodi | abrotman, it finished, I'm not installing kde-full |
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| 15:59.18 | themill | orflon: running "pm-suspend" is the manual way to trigger suspending. Working out why it doesn't work isn't always that easy... |
| 15:59.33 | Xtreme | guys how to enable tap-to-click feature?? (mousepad) |
| 15:59.54 | orflon | themill, thank you |
| 16:00.04 | abrotman | mparodi: you're not ? |
| 16:00.09 | abrotman | mparodi: why not? |
| 16:00.21 | themill | Xtreme: does running "synclient TapButton1=1" do that for you? |
| 16:00.31 | mms_ | http://www.pazera-software.com/products/mov-to-avi-converter/ I was able to choose minimum settings for video audio and convert from 250 to 25MB |
| 16:00.40 | mms_ | ok bye |
| 16:00.43 | mparodi | abramart, s/not/now/ sorry :P |
| 16:00.54 | mms_ | not sure if I can get any thing better than that |
| 16:01.00 | mms_ | I mean file size reduction |
| 16:01.02 | abrotman | mparodi: ah okay |
| 16:01.11 | abrotman | mparodi: is it installing KDM now ? |
| 16:01.12 | Xtreme | themill, trying one sec :) |
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| 16:01.47 | Xtreme | themill, thanks :) its working now :) |
| 16:01.47 | [HaldriK] | gnugr: there is four users |
| 16:01.53 | Xtreme | do i have to repeat it? |
| 16:02.23 | gnugr | [Haldrik]:sorry, it is on irc.oftc.net |
| 16:02.35 | [HaldriK] | ok |
| 16:02.41 | mparodi | abrotman, I don't know, I'm still reading what it will do, let me check |
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| 16:02.57 | mparodi | (the list is huge) |
| 16:03.07 | abrotman | i bet it is |
| 16:03.37 | mparodi | I don't think so |
| 16:03.38 | mparodi | Keep the following packages at their current version: \n 85) kdm [Not Installed] |
| 16:03.57 | abrotman | mparodi: so, aptitude install kde-full kdm |
| 16:04.11 | abrotman | admittedly,gdm3 should be able to login to KDE4 |
| 16:05.00 | themill | Xtreme: that's a one-time only thing. Your desktop environment might have a widget to set that automatically otherwise you'll need to add it to a start-up script for when you log in |
| 16:05.10 | thewanderer1 | dkms (>> 2.1.1.2-5ubuntu1) -- what does it mean in a Build-Depends field? newer than? if so, newer by how much? |
| 16:05.23 | abrotman | mparodi: did you turn off Recommends? |
| 16:05.40 | mparodi | no (or not explicitly at least) |
| 16:05.44 | abrotman | okay |
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| 16:07.20 | tremon | thewanderer1: iirc, strictly newer (as opposed to newer or equal) |
| 16:07.30 | abrotman | mparodi: better? |
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| 16:08.02 | mparodi | 9 packages upgraded, 346 newly installed, 4 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
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| 16:08.05 | mparodi | Need to get 497 MB/533 MB of archives. |
| 16:08.06 | mparodi | o.o |
| 16:08.10 | abrotman | is that all? |
| 16:08.11 | mparodi | I guess it's better now |
| 16:08.14 | thewanderer1 | tremon: okay... what sense does it make? should I assume that this particular version is broken and it needs a newer one? how do I know in which version it would be fixed? |
| 16:08.22 | abrotman | mparodi: i'm going to head out in a few minutes .. |
| 16:08.34 | mparodi | abrotman, do you mean it's not enough!? |
| 16:08.39 | mparodi | 400MB is a lot |
| 16:08.42 | mparodi | actually 500 |
| 16:08.55 | abrotman | mparodi: the one thing i will tell you .. it is *important* that you run full-upgrade/dist-upgrade probably once a week or more frequently .. otherwise, you end up in a situation like this |
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| 16:09.15 | abrotman | mparodi: i actually do it every time i upgrade on my wheezy box .. i read the packages it will remove/install .. |
| 16:09.59 | mparodi | but what is the problem with apt-get upgrade? is it that it doesn't install any new package you don't have? I read it just upgrade the ones you already have |
| 16:10.41 | tremon | thewanderer1: does this make sense: the depending package was released before the depended-upon package, the maintainer of the dependee had already accepted a fix to be included in the next release, but the exact version number was yet unknown |
| 16:10.56 | thewanderer1 | okay |
| 16:11.02 | tremon | (exact version of the depended-upon package) |
| 16:11.04 | thewanderer1 | works for me :P |
| 16:11.12 | tremon | please note that I'm not a DD though :) |
| 16:11.14 | abrotman | mparodi: you can use apt-get .. but you will want to use dist-upgrade at least once a week |
| 16:11.36 | mparodi | alright |
| 16:11.42 | abrotman | mparodi: upgrade will not install/remove packages .. it will only upgrade packages as they are .. this is a *huge* problem in testing/unstable |
| 16:12.11 | mparodi | well, I guess it'll work... after all it's reinstalling almost everything :P |
| 16:12.12 | mparodi | so thank you |
| 16:12.27 | abrotman | mparodi: so what's the moral of the story? |
| 16:12.36 | abrotman | (besides gnome3 is freaking awesome!) :) |
| 16:12.50 | mparodi | actually I don't like it u.u |
| 16:12.54 | mparodi | but.... |
| 16:13.00 | abrotman | mparodi: if something you want is being removed ... find out why, don't just ignore it |
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| 16:13.49 | pcormack | ahoy hoy |
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| 16:13.59 | spersaud | how do I reconfigure mail ? |
| 16:14.17 | pcormack | spersaud: mail server? |
| 16:14.33 | pcormack | exim? postfix? |
| 16:14.35 | spersaud | pcormack: I think the configuration got messed up, |
| 16:14.47 | spersaud | pcormack: good question, I dont even know what I have |
| 16:15.02 | abrotman | spersaud: telnet localhost 25 |
| 16:15.07 | pcormack | try dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 16:15.35 | spersaud | pcormack: I think I have postfix for some strange reason |
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| 16:15.49 | spersaud | c exim4 |
| 16:16.00 | spersaud | i postfix |
| 16:16.15 | abrotman | okay, so go to postfix.org, read the docs on how to configure it |
| 16:16.40 | spersaud | abrotman: lol |
| 16:16.45 | pcormack | Yup, docs and then a dpkg-reconfigure postfix |
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| 16:24.58 | chuckkh | Hi. Fluxbox on Debian stable. I'm trying to temporarily change my keyboard layout to another language, to type a couple of lines of text. I tried all of these suggestions: http://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard http://www.howtoforge.com/changing-language-and-keyboard-layout-on-various-linux-distributions http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch08.en.html#_the_keyboard_input but the layout hasn't changed. Do I need to restart X??? |
| 16:26.03 | chuckkh | and this: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Switch_Keyboard_layout (the Debian and Fluxbox suggestions) |
| 16:26.12 | alo_alo | chuckkh: setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:caps us,bg ,phonetic |
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| 16:27.01 | chuckkh | alo_alo: I tried $ setxkbmap us,ro |
| 16:27.09 | chuckkh | Is that not enough?? |
| 16:27.34 | chuckkh | I don't want to toggle languages with a keyboard shortcut, that's something I despise about windoze... |
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| 16:28.12 | chuckkh | and from what I typed, it didn't change immediately. |
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| 16:29.03 | chuckkh | $ setxkbmap -layout ro leaves my keyboard layout unchanged. |
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| 16:30.02 | alo_alo | hm |
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| 16:31.32 | chuckkh | even in the terminal window I typed it into, it's still the us layout |
| 16:31.40 | Zoup | dpkg-genchanges: warning: the current version (3.1.9-2X0) is earlier than the previous one (1:3.1.9-2), what does the number before : means? |
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| 16:31.56 | Catharina | olá |
| 16:31.57 | tremon | Zoup: epoch |
| 16:31.59 | Catharina | boa tarde |
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| 16:33.21 | tremon | notes that that doesn't really parse as good afternoon |
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| 16:36.22 | alo_alo | chuckkh: chek this text http://www.ub-filosofie.ro/~solcan/wt/gnu/k/ro-x-kbd.html |
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| 16:39.29 | alo_alo | ro layout hasn't work in my system too |
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| 16:44.09 | chuckkh | alo_alo: thanks, that page's command didn't help. |
| 16:44.12 | chuckkh | weird |
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| 16:53.15 | Shojo | chuckkh: are you trying to fix your keyboard layout? |
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| 16:54.18 | chuckkh | Shojo: I just want to change it temporarily for like 5 minutes. |
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| 16:54.40 | chuckkh | I don't want to permanently change it, nor to switch layouts with a shortcut. |
| 16:54.45 | Shojo | what OS? and what type of keyboard layout you want? |
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| 16:55.43 | alo_alo | chuckkh: setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:caps us,ro ,std_cedilla |
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| 16:55.56 | alo_alo | mcmvnbşţşlglş Ş))) |
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| 16:56.33 | chuckkh | Debian stable, Fluxbox, Romanian |
| 16:56.48 | alo_alo | check variants in grep Romanian /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst |
| 16:57.07 | chuckkh | alo_alo: exact same command had no effect here, I suspect there is some deeper issue :( :( :( |
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| 16:57.26 | chuckkh | ahhhh |
| 16:57.27 | nsadmin | chuckkh, backup whatever u change |
| 16:57.30 | alo_alo | :OO |
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| 16:57.34 | chuckkh | but thatţs with a toggle key |
| 16:57.38 | chuckkh | Great. |
| 16:57.42 | chuckkh | I didnţt want that... lol |
| 16:58.02 | chuckkh | nsadmin: thanks for the reminder! |
| 16:58.10 | alo_alo | and caps blink :)) btw i'm with thinkpad |
| 16:58.47 | chuckkh | alo_alo: any idea how I can turn that off?? |
| 16:59.08 | Shojo | chuckkh: pm :) |
| 16:59.37 | alo_alo | remove grp_led:caps |
| 16:59.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | chuckkh, I used to have a greek kbd layout to be able to write greek symbols in math formulae... you can configure several ones in xorg.conf |
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| 17:02.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | chuckkh, like... Option "XkbLayout" "us,ro" |
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| 17:02.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | huh, then could switch with a key I defined for that... all too long gone... |
| 17:02.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | gnome and stuff have their own arrangements |
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| 17:03.18 | chuckkh | Well, I finished the message I wanted to write using copy and paste and emacs. I guess it'll be the same next time. Thanks all! |
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| 17:07.46 | a_gn | what font do you guys prefer on your terminals ? |
| 17:07.57 | a_gn | I have always used terminus 12px |
| 17:08.06 | nsadmin | one that's easily readable |
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| 17:08.19 | a_gn | but it looks too small on my x220 |
| 17:08.34 | nsadmin | what's that? |
| 17:08.34 | a_gn | 14px looks too big |
| 17:08.45 | a_gn | thinkpad x220 |
| 17:08.56 | nsadmin | sounds like 13 is the sweet spot |
| 17:09.05 | a_gn | no 13px for terminus :( |
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| 17:09.48 | nsadmin | can't you either use an outline font or make a bitmap font from one? |
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| 17:10.18 | a_gn | umm...how do I do that ? |
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| 17:10.37 | a_gn | I don't like the anti aliased fonts |
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| 17:10.48 | nsadmin | I've never done it myself... first, find out what kind of font it uses |
| 17:10.56 | alex- | How can I reinstall Apache httpd.conf without loosing my other data? |
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| 17:11.31 | themill | alex-: httpd.conf is empty |
| 17:11.34 | alex- | oh |
| 17:11.38 | alex- | thanks for the tip |
| 17:11.40 | alex- | why is it there then? |
| 17:12.14 | Joestar79 | h iall |
| 17:12.25 | themill | alex-: if you include things in it, then they will be used. It's empty by default./ |
| 17:12.29 | Joestar79 | I'm unable to tell how my nginx and uWSGI r starting |
| 17:12.37 | nsadmin | I think because the configs are split into several files, some for individual virtual domains |
| 17:12.47 | Joestar79 | I thought it was through Upstart and 2 conf I had written |
| 17:12.52 | alex- | Hmm |
| 17:13.01 | alex- | themill: I need to fix that php files are being offered as a download |
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| 17:13.11 | Joestar79 | but something is wrong if I try sudo service nginx restart or sudo service djangoTest restart |
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| 17:13.42 | Joestar79 | (djangoTest is the uWSGI Upstart's init script) |
| 17:13.45 | tremon | before I go off on a wild goose chase, does anybody know what happened to the mythvideo package on dmo? All mythtv packages are upgraded to 0.25 except for that one... |
| 17:14.02 | themill | alex-: have you installed "libapache2-mod-php5" |
| 17:14.03 | Joestar79 | they r both placed under /etc/init/nginx,conf and djangoTest.conf |
| 17:14.24 | alex- | themill: thanks for the tip, somehow it got removed from my system |
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| 17:14.44 | alex- | themill: installed, but still problems |
| 17:14.49 | themill | tremon: judd things it exists |
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| 17:15.05 | themill | alex-: please test with something other than your browser (e.g. wget or curl) |
| 17:15.11 | Joestar79 | is there any way to check how a service in starting on debian? |
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| 17:16.17 | nsadmin | Joestar79, partial understanding error... but, do you want to find the script that starts a service? |
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| 17:16.24 | tremon | themill: yeah, but it also tells me that 0.25 is in sid-multimedia while mythvideo isn't in sid... |
| 17:16.49 | tremon | that should read "mythtv 0.25 is in sid-mm" |
| 17:16.55 | themill | tremon: what arch? |
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| 17:17.12 | Joestar79 | nsadmin: I'm trying to understand and take control on what happens on my system, I need to restart both uWSGI and NGINX manually and right now I must modify the conf and then reboot the VM, which is crazy |
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| 17:17.42 | tremon | themill: amd64 my system, judd speaks of i386 |
| 17:17.49 | nsadmin | one sec, more coffee... |
| 17:17.56 | tremon | themill: ah crap, I think I've found it, one sec |
| 17:17.58 | themill | ,versions mythvideo --arch amd64 |
| 17:17.58 | judd | Package: mythvideo on amd64 -- lenny-multimedia: 0.23.1-0.0lenny1; sid-multimedia: 0.24.2-0.0; wheezy-multimedia: 0.24.2-0.0; squeeze-multimedia: 0.24.2-0.0squeeze1 |
| 17:18.04 | themill | tremon: ^^ perhaps just not built yet |
| 17:18.32 | tremon | mythtv (0.25~beta-0.3) experimental; urgency=low : "mythtv-xommon should conflicts mythvideo, as this package has been merged in the core MythTV" |
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| 17:18.51 | alex- | themill: it works, thanks |
| 17:18.58 | themill | alex-: excellent |
| 17:18.59 | tremon | that's great, but mythtv-common doesn't replace: mythvideo so apt thinks it's broken... |
| 17:19.04 | Joestar79 | I thought those /etc/init/nginx.conf and /etc/init/djangoTest.conf were actually starting NGINX and uWSGI, but if I try sudo service nginx restart it says: restart: Unknown instance: |
| 17:19.19 | themill | tremon: could you just dpkg -r mythvideo first? |
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| 17:19.33 | tremon | themill: sure I can. Now that I know about the why... |
| 17:19.42 | themill | :) |
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| 17:21.14 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:22.40 | nsadmin | Joestar79, are those files +x? |
| 17:23.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | /etc/init/ doesn't sound like debian packages |
| 17:23.19 | Joestar79 | nsadmin: I was following a blogpost and I installed Upstart |
| 17:23.35 | Joestar79 | but right now I also have /ect/init.d/nginx |
| 17:23.38 | Joestar79 | I'm really confused |
| 17:24.04 | alex- | postfixsed: can't read /var/spool/postfix/pid/master.pid: Permission denied |
| 17:24.18 | nsadmin | the nginx is probably the start file... look in /etc/rc2.d/ for a file whose name contains nginx |
| 17:24.20 | Joestar79 | but what puzzles me even more is uWSGI. if it's not starting through /etc/init/djangoTest.conf I can't really why is is running |
| 17:24.36 | tremon | themill: done. Thanks for thinking with me :) |
| 17:24.44 | Joestar79 | but then, how come that sudo service djangoTest restart doesn't work? |
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| 17:24.52 | alex- | nvm |
| 17:24.55 | themill | tremon: any time |
| 17:25.10 | Joestar79 | nsadmin: ok going to look /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 17:25.29 | Shact | Hi all. Does anyone know how to install an old version of Icedove? Aptitude gets the latest one by default of course. Thanks |
| 17:26.01 | tremon | Shact: aptitude install <pkg>=<version> |
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| 17:26.06 | nsadmin | Joestar79, are you saying this: if test -d /etc/init; then echo yes; fi |
| 17:26.08 | nsadmin | says yes? |
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| 17:26.59 | Shact | thanks tremon |
| 17:26.59 | nsadmin | or says nothing? |
| 17:27.05 | Joestar79 | it says yes |
| 17:27.15 | Joestar79 | (btw what have I just typed?) |
| 17:27.27 | tremon | isn't /etc/init an upstart config dir? |
| 17:27.28 | Joestar79 | and I found S17nginx under /etc/rc2.d |
| 17:27.35 | nsadmin | ok, interesting... that's a test to determine if /etc/init is a dir |
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| 17:28.01 | Joestar79 | I could tell u that already since I put some files under /etc/init :D |
| 17:29.08 | nsadmin | I'm interested/curious where that dir comes from, because I don't remember that dir... perhaps you made it? |
| 17:29.08 | Joestar79 | so, having found S17nginx under /etc/rc2.d tells u anything? |
| 17:29.14 | Joestar79 | nope |
| 17:29.22 | Joestar79 | I just installed upstart using apt.get |
| 17:29.32 | Joestar79 | apt-get, sorry |
| 17:29.50 | nsadmin | ohh so maybe upstart makes that dir |
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| 17:30.20 | nsadmin | could you look thru the output of dpkg -L upstart and see if that dir is on the list? |
| 17:30.31 | Joestar79 | one sec |
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| 17:31.11 | Joestar79 | yes, it is |
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| 17:33.53 | nsadmin | ok, so that explains it... one thing, I can help you gather info and in the process become actually able to help with your issue... and, if you're just looking to understand how this works, maybe that's exactly what you're asking for? |
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| 17:34.41 | nsadmin | more directly, I don't have actual experience with upstart and only a little with the existing insserv thing |
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| 17:35.59 | Joestar79 | yeah sure man, I just wantto understand what's going on to be able to control the process at will |
| 17:36.04 | Joestar79 | so thx for your help and time |
| 17:36.23 | Joestar79 | I was eading some about Upstart and Inoticed that I just need to run sudo status myServiceName |
| 17:36.47 | Joestar79 | http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html that0s the link if anyone else is interested |
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| 17:37.24 | Joestar79 | but again I don't get the expected behaviour yet |
| 17:37.49 | Joestar79 | stondo@debian:~$ sudo status djangoTest |
| 17:37.49 | Joestar79 | djangoTest stop/waiting |
| 17:38.32 | ompaul | !paste |
| 17:38.32 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 17:38.35 | Joestar79 | but with restart or stop I get this: restart: Unknown instance: |
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| 17:39.17 | Joestar79 | I mean with sudo stop djangoTest |
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| 17:39.52 | ompaul | well you use upstart you are out there on your own pretty much most people are using insserv and older fun tools |
| 17:41.00 | Joestar79 | ompaul, if someone points me in a more debian-like way of starting services, I'll be happy to uninstall Upstart |
| 17:41.07 | nsadmin | Joestar79, so, I'm mildly curious about upstart, enough for me to install another debian on my ext and install upstart on that in stance |
| 17:41.12 | nsadmin | instance |
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| 17:41.52 | Joestar79 | ompaul: I'm just trying to learn and undesratnd what's going on |
| 17:42.35 | Joestar79 | nsadmin: I'll hang about, so I'll be curious to hear about your experience with Upstart |
| 17:43.07 | ompaul | man update-rc.d says clever stuff like update-rc.d package-foo 5432 enable and so on |
| 17:44.26 | Joestar79 | initctl list this command give a list of services started through Upstart |
| 17:44.54 | Joestar79 | and nginx is in that list, but without a process ID |
| 17:45.06 | Joestar79 | I'm guessing that's why I'm unable to start/stop/restart it |
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| 17:45.38 | Joestar79 | it just syas: nginx stop/waiting |
| 17:45.40 | nsadmin | maybe the startup script failed to execute? |
| 17:45.59 | Joestar79 | nsadmin: don't think so, since nginx and uWSGI are up and running and actually working very well |
| 17:46.10 | Joestar79 | I can see my django 1.4 app |
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| 17:46.46 | Joestar79 | u want to take a look at those startup scripts? |
| 17:46.53 | nsadmin | ok, so that makes me curious, you say (1) nginx is up and (2) upstart thinks it's not? |
| 17:47.29 | nsadmin | not yet |
| 17:48.02 | nsadmin | was nginx up while you installed upstart? |
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| 17:48.34 | tremon | Joestar79: if nginx is really started by upstart instead of through some other means (like manually invoking the init.d script), check if the upstart script has an "expect fork" line |
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| 17:49.07 | Joestar79 | nsadmin: well, initctl just says nginx stop/waiting |
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| 17:49.29 | Joestar79 | http://pastebin.com/ruPcGFhe <-- NGINX startup script using Upstart |
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| 17:49.59 | Joestar79 | tremon: there's no expect fork |
| 17:50.03 | Xtreme | guys can i set transparency to terminal and change backgroud color? |
| 17:50.03 | inabox_ | what is the deveopment channel? |
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| 17:50.56 | tremon | Joestar79: look for it when you check the upstart docs. It's been awhile since I've played with it, maybe the design has changed. Or, add it and see what happens |
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| 17:51.34 | Joestar79 | http://pastebin.com/KPAyjyKx <-- uWSGI Upstart script |
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| 17:51.38 | Xtreme | coz guys if i set transparency using terminal option, i am able to view the wallpaper. not the windows behind it |
| 17:51.47 | Xtreme | i want to view the window behing it |
| 17:51.51 | Joestar79 | tremon, ok I'll try to read and then play around |
| 17:52.19 | nsadmin | Joestar79, will look at that momentarily... and, so you know, the ads, captas and browser crashes are causing pastebin.com to be an increasing annoyance... would you be willing to install libapp-nopaste-perl? (then you can: cat foofile | nopaste) |
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| 17:53.36 | Joestar79 | oh I didn't know that |
| 17:53.38 | gigicavigliarott | ci |
| 17:53.39 | Xtreme | anyone? |
| 17:53.47 | gigicavigliarott | !list |
| 17:53.47 | dpkg | All the lists you ever want are on https://lists.debian.org/ (but if you are on a run for a list of software, try http://packages.debian.org/stable/ ) |
| 17:53.53 | Joestar79 | I'll install what u have just suggested, thx |
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| 17:58.46 | nsadmin | Joestar79, in stable, pastebinit is pretty much locked to pastebin.com, and the maint refuses to respond to requests to fix it |
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| 18:00.02 | offnod | offnod |
| 18:00.03 | mparodi | abrotman, now it seems to work well. thank you! |
| 18:00.29 | dvs | mparodi: He's away |
| 18:00.55 | mparodi | I suppose he'll read that later |
| 18:01.15 | offnod | when i log in as root in terminal, i still cannot edit /etc/fstab, how can i edit fstab without changing its permissions? |
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| 18:03.21 | nsadmin | offnod. whoami says root? |
| 18:03.40 | nsadmin | what is the command line you use to try to edit /etc/fstab? |
| 18:03.41 | mparodi | oh no! I've got another bug report! -.- |
| 18:04.04 | nsadmin | yay! err... booo! errrr.... Yay! |
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| 18:06.41 | Xtreme | does debian have any composite manager by default? |
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| 18:10.47 | Xtreme | anyuone? |
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| 18:13.11 | nsadmin | composite? what would be the components of it? |
| 18:13.40 | alo_alo | ??? as compiz |
| 18:14.19 | Xtreme | i want transparency for terminal |
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| 18:14.25 | Xtreme | not the fake transparency |
| 18:14.38 | Xtreme | how can i get it? |
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| 18:15.03 | ompaul | !tell Xtreme about compiz |
| 18:15.11 | ompaul | Xtreme: see the message from the bot |
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| 18:15.29 | Xtreme | ompaul, i am using gnome :( |
| 18:15.50 | ompaul | Xtreme: and I kde so see the message from the bot |
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| 18:17.33 | nsadmin | there are packages for compiz and such, but those things require 3d accel in hardware and associated drivers, some could possibly be closed and proprietary, and so those things are not "by default" since there would be some work involved to set them up |
| 18:17.50 | ompaul | and not all hardware is the same |
| 18:17.55 | Xtreme | thanks :) |
| 18:17.57 | Xtreme | installing it |
| 18:17.58 | nsadmin | that too |
| 18:18.19 | alo_alo | Xtreme: ин аджанце view in youtube compiz and cairo |
| 18:18.32 | alo_alo | in advance* |
| 18:18.35 | alo_alo | :)) |
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| 18:19.39 | Xtreme | alo_alo, thanks :) |
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| 18:29.15 | Xtreme | http://pastebin.com/9JC2DxZZ <got disconnected |
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| 18:32.13 | ompaul | Xtreme: people don't like pastebin please use paste.debian.net |
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| 18:33.33 | Xtreme | http://paste.debian.net/164266/ |
| 18:33.34 | Xtreme | here |
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| 18:33.59 | ompaul | gnome problems |
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| 18:35.11 | Xtreme | how to fix? |
| 18:35.16 | nsadmin | you can install libapp-nopaste-perl which will give you an executable called nopaste (for example "ls | grep foo | nopaste") which defaults to gist.github.com |
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| 18:36.48 | Arrowmaster | theres also pastebinit |
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| 18:37.42 | BotaniCar1 | Anyone has a positive expirience with Avery TV cards on Debian ? |
| 18:38.35 | nsadmin | which (a) defaults to pastebin.com and (b) the default can't be overridden, at least not in squeeze |
| 18:39.25 | ompaul | ooch |
| 18:39.32 | jelly-home | nsadmin: but it works |
| 18:39.33 | Arrowmaster | didnt realize it wasnt configurable in squeeze, it is in wheezy |
| 18:40.14 | themill | nsadmin: (b) is incorrect; (a) is incorrect for wheezy onwards |
| 18:40.15 | nsadmin | BotaniCar1, are you having difficulty with this card? if so, the conversation is better in reverse: tell your experience and specify what it's doing that's wrong |
| 18:40.29 | Xtreme | has anyone tried gnome3? |
| 18:40.36 | nsadmin | themill, tried it several times. the option doesn't work |
| 18:40.44 | themill | nsadmin: pebkac. |
| 18:40.55 | nsadmin | so, you've tried it? |
| 18:41.05 | BotaniCar1 | nsadmin, i ment no offense, i'm doing my google in parallell before i plug in a old card i found in closet. Just asking anyone having spare time and hands-on expirience. |
| 18:41.13 | nsadmin | show a specific invocation that works |
| 18:41.13 | themill | nsadmin: err... that's how I know it works... |
| 18:41.26 | BotaniCar1 | Havent tried it yet, antena cable is in room where kid sleeps, i'm doomed to wait |
| 18:41.41 | nsadmin | BotaniCar1, not your fault (at all) |
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| 18:48.16 | chuckkh | Hi. I really need some help. I was trying to change my keyboard temporarily, but entered a command that set up a toggle key, a key that I was already using for other shortcuts, and no longer works... |
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| 18:48.39 | chuckkh | $ setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:caps us,ro ,std_cedilla |
| 18:48.39 | chuckkh | ...was the command |
| 18:49.03 | chuckkh | and I was using Mod1 Shift T to open a new terminal in Fluxbox. Now Mod1 (alt) doesn't get sent to Fluxbox. |
| 18:49.26 | chuckkh | I tried running setxkbmap -option us |
| 18:49.26 | chuckkh | without options, but it doesn't seem to reset them |
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| 18:50.42 | chuckkh | ok, this seems to have done the trick, actually: $ setxkbmap -option |
| 18:50.48 | chuckkh | with no arguments.... weird ?!?!?! |
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| 18:53.36 | alo_alo | chuckkh: :))) i forgot ctrl:nocaps turning off the caps lock key |
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| 18:57.48 | chuckkh | alo_alo: I got that too, but that's not such a big deal; I just wish I could switch manually instead of setting up an automatic shortcut |
| 18:58.33 | chuckkh | Seems so silly- the only way to change my layout is to set up a keyboard shortcut and then use the shortcut; when I want to use that shortcut for other things, I have to turn it off, at which point I no longer have a way to change languages |
| 18:59.33 | alo_alo | chuckkh: remap it check options in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst |
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| 19:00.15 | alo_alo | and write you own command check and 'fbxkb' switcher |
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| 19:01.46 | chuckkh | alo_alo: I tried that... $ setxkbmap ro |
| 19:01.47 | chuckkh | should theoretically change it manually, but doesn't. |
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| 19:02.46 | alo_alo | chuckkh: setxkbmap ro -variant std_cedilla |
| 19:02.59 | alo_alo | ţţţâââ |
| 19:03.29 | chuckkh | ahhhhhhhhhh! |
| 19:03.32 | chuckkh | Wonderful!!! |
| 19:03.37 | chuckkh | Thanks alo_alo |
| 19:03.40 | alo_alo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.52 | alo_alo | Ş))) |
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| 19:06.20 | cheets | hi |
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| 19:06.56 | cheets | Where is the string stored for the string Apache outputs in it's header. For example "Debian" >? |
| 19:07.03 | Achylles | After an upgrade my compiz > debian (gnome3/gnome-shell) is tremendously lag and impossible to use it :( |
| 19:07.18 | chuckkh | alo_alo: OK, thanks again |
| 19:07.27 | zophy__ | is debian ported to windows 7 ? |
| 19:08.01 | alo_alo | cheets: welcome |
| 19:08.05 | cheets | HI! |
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| 19:12.35 | nsadmin | Achylles, perhaps you no longer enjoy hardware 3d accel |
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| 19:14.33 | Achylles | nsadmin, I enjoy it and I have nvidia gforce here. But, even in fallback session compiz is lagging too much and impossible to use. My session hangs when using compiz. So I have to change to metacity |
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| 19:16.30 | nsadmin | sec |
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| 19:17.05 | ITHKS_NOR | Can anyone tell me why i can't run apt-get on my Debian server? http://pastebin.com/sNK7HLRT - Here is the paste from my try |
| 19:17.13 | ITHKS_NOR | running Lenny |
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| 19:17.54 | nsadmin | lenny reached end of life 2 months ago |
| 19:18.23 | ITHKS_NOR | but i can't update my distro |
| 19:18.35 | ITHKS_NOR | with apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 19:20.05 | nsadmin | Achylles, so glxinfo claims direct rendering is enabled? |
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| 19:24.11 | nsadmin | ITHKS_NOR, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit -b http://paste.pocoo.org |
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| 19:25.15 | sherl0ck | i want to add a line into /etc/network/interfaces that will essential do this 'ip route add default dev eth0' |
| 19:25.18 | sherl0ck | ideas? |
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| 19:26.07 | nsadmin | ITHKS_NOR, tired of pastebin.com and dealing with how it crashes my browser... not your fault AND with the -b http:... you can control which pastebin site is used (pastebinit -l to see which pastebin sites are supported) |
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| 19:27.02 | peterrooney | nsadmin: have you given up on flash like I have with debian stable? |
| 19:27.15 | nsadmin | no, it seems to work ok |
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| 19:28.17 | peterrooney | nsadmin: I find a significant percentage of flash containing pages kill iceweasel. |
| 19:28.24 | babilen | !tell ITHKS_NOR -about lenny |
| 19:28.27 | babilen | !tell ITHKS_NOR -about lenny sources.list |
| 19:28.30 | Iridos | nsadmin, you let it crash your browser? seriously? |
| 19:28.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell ITHKS_NOR -about release notes |
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| 19:29.03 | babilen | ITHKS_NOR: You *really* have to upgrade to squeeze *now* -- You had more than a year for this and it is overdue. |
| 19:29.23 | bensons | sherl0ck: add a line to your iface eth0 block with something like -> post-up ip route add default dev eth0 |
| 19:30.11 | nsadmin | Iridos, prefer not... so, if people use nopaste for example, the default is github |
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| 19:31.05 | Iridos | nsadmin, don't you do flash/ad blocking? |
| 19:31.06 | Xtreme | guys need help in recovering windows |
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| 19:31.31 | Xtreme | how can i get it back? configure grub i mean? |
| 19:32.10 | nsadmin | Xtreme, sec. |
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| 19:33.17 | nsadmin | Xtreme, first, grub should find your windows automatically. |
| 19:33.39 | Xtreme | it did in ubuntu.. so i think it will do it in debian too |
| 19:33.48 | Iridos | dpkg, grub2 config |
| 19:33.48 | dpkg | If all you want is to dual-boot Debian and Windows, just install the os-prober package and run update-grub. Otherwise, check /etc/default/grub, /etc/grub.d/* and http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub#Configuration |
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| 19:34.08 | Iridos | anyway... I'd be glad of the respite |
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| 19:34.57 | nsadmin | Xtreme, so, did it work? |
| 19:35.40 | Xtreme | well i used boot-repair for ubuntu which doesnt seem to be there in debian repo |
| 19:35.53 | Iridos | Xtreme, ^^^^ |
| 19:36.05 | Xtreme | working :) |
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| 19:36.54 | Xtreme | yay found windows 7 loader |
| 19:36.56 | phajdan-jr | hi, "apt-get install mysql-server" is returning "The following packages have unmet dependencies: mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.1 but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages". I have testing in apt sources to use _specific_ packages from it. What does the mentioned error actually mean, and how can I solve it? |
| 19:37.03 | Xtreme | thank you guys :) |
| 19:37.30 | Xtreme | phaidros, go to synaptic, search mysql, select server, it will automatically select all pakage and install it |
| 19:37.31 | Iridos | means you're mixing distributions and that broke stuff... |
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| 19:37.37 | Xtreme | i did it like 15 mins ago |
| 19:37.51 | alo_alo | phajdan-jr: try apt-get install mysql-server-5.1 |
| 19:38.20 | Iridos | phajdan-jr, you're not supposed to mix testing and stable... you should use backports for selected packages or backport them yourself |
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| 19:38.31 | phajdan-jr | alo_alo: same error |
| 19:38.50 | phajdan-jr | Iridos: are there backports for php5-fpm? That sounds like a possible option. |
| 19:39.20 | Iridos | think not, that one came up once or twice |
| 19:39.32 | alo_alo | phajdan-jr: and last try :)) apt-get install mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server |
| 19:39.47 | Iridos | judd, versions php5-fpm |
| 19:39.48 | judd | Package: php5-fpm on i386 -- wheezy: 5.4.0-3; sid: 5.4.1~rc1-1 |
| 19:40.45 | phajdan-jr | alo_alo: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: mysql-server-5.1 : Depends: mysql-client-5.1 (>= 5.1.61-0+squeeze1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not going to be installed Depends: perl (>= 5.6) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: libhtml-template-perl but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages" |
| 19:41.14 | nsadmin | phajdan-jr, it seems like you're mixing (say) stable with testing, which would confuse your package database and/or the programs that read it... |
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| 19:41.55 | phajdan-jr | nsadmin: that's true, but it seems to me I'd need testing for php5-fpm |
| 19:42.13 | nsadmin | or a backport |
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| 19:43.12 | nsadmin | which wasn't listed by judd earlier... so, you probably need to get the source and build it |
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| 19:43.30 | Iridos | phajdan-jr, you can usually either backport the one from testing yourself or just recompile the one from squeeze - the fpm is just a compile option, as I understand? |
| 19:43.32 | Benkinooby | hi, is a question about tinydns appropriate here? |
| 19:43.33 | Achylles | nsadmin, my glxinfo is ok. Running alright. The problem is not with it. But, I suspect with compiz itself |
| 19:43.55 | Iridos | oh, yeah, but all the packaging stuff isn't done for stable |
| 19:44.05 | nsadmin | Achylles, does glxinfo say direct rendering is enabled? |
| 19:44.20 | Iridos | dpkg, tell phajdan-jr about ssb |
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| 19:51.48 | nsadmin | Benkinooby, what exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 19:53.24 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, just resolve some host in my internal network... everything is set up (to my best knowledge), tinydns is running (dnscache too) but i can not resolve my hosts and was wondering what i missed |
| 19:54.57 | nsadmin | so you want to have a server that knows hostnames in your LAN? |
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| 20:00.12 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, the long story is: it is part of an course and some students had problems with it so i want to check what wrong... until now i have not even a clue what's wrong |
| 20:00.28 | nsadmin | Benkinooby, can tinydns be authoritative over domains? |
| 20:00.43 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, yes |
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| 20:01.48 | nsadmin | ok, so you want to see what went wrong... is that right? |
| 20:02.03 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, yes |
| 20:02.24 | nsadmin | first, locate the log files tinydns logs to |
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| 20:02.52 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, case: i use "dnsip" to querry the ip of an host, that is managed my tinydns... all i get is an empty line |
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| 20:02.58 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, ok |
| 20:04.20 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, hm... the /etc/init.d/tinydns script says it is /var/log/tinydns |
| 20:04.27 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, that file does not exist |
| 20:04.46 | nsadmin | ok, good catch. |
| 20:05.45 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, ? |
| 20:06.23 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, what does that mean? |
| 20:06.34 | nsadmin | do you see a file in /etc/init.d related to tinydns? |
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| 20:08.53 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, not really |
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| 20:09.04 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, only tinydns |
| 20:09.13 | Benkinooby | the start-script for tiny dns |
| 20:09.37 | nsadmin | ok, we're going to use that to test |
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| 20:09.50 | nsadmin | you need to be root for this |
| 20:10.01 | nsadmin | try: /etc/init.d/tinydns stop |
| 20:10.01 | Iridos | that's the one in the dbndns or in the djbdns package? |
| 20:10.16 | nsadmin | dunno, I don't expect so |
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| 20:10.47 | Iridos | hm? |
| 20:10.54 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, works... message i get is "stopping private DNS server listening in 192.168.1.1 without deamontools..." |
| 20:11.07 | jelly-home | nsadmin: tinydns is _only_ authoritative |
| 20:11.42 | nsadmin | jelly, so it does not cache nonauthoritative names? |
| 20:11.55 | jelly-home | nsadmin: definitely not |
| 20:12.08 | nsadmin | so he can't use that for general use... bind9? |
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| 20:12.24 | Benkinooby | nsadmin, jelly-home hmmm... tinydns is not made for caching |
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| 20:12.47 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: correct. It cannot be used as a recursing dns, to put in resolv.conf. dnscache is the complementary recursor |
| 20:13.00 | Xtreme | guys how to check which is my default browser and change it? xchat is loading links in firefox but nautilis is loading in chrome |
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| 20:13.47 | jelly-home | nsadmin: one could argue bind has made a mess by providing those two, completely different functions in a single service |
| 20:14.38 | nsadmin | and they're both available thru port 53... so it |
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| 20:14.46 | Iridos | xchat loads stuff when one clicks on links? |
| 20:14.53 | nsadmin | is the protocol that would be fielding that blame :) |
| 20:15.03 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: is it an internal or a public domain? |
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| 20:15.10 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, only internal |
| 20:15.29 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, if that is the same as "private" - that's the term used in the script and other places |
| 20:15.31 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: did you instruct dnscache to ask the right authoritative dns server? |
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| 20:15.53 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, yes... it asks 192.168.1.1 wich also runs tinydns |
| 20:16.13 | jelly-home | s/also/only/ I presume |
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| 20:16.52 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: and if you use "getent hosts hostname.private-domain", do you see that query in dnscache logs? |
| 20:17.08 | Xtreme | nsadmin, can you also please tell me how to set a default browser? |
| 20:17.36 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, let me check for the dnscache logs |
| 20:18.07 | nsadmin | so if tinydns only supports domains its instance is authoritative over, and is not communicating over port 63, is there some kind of internediate protocol going on? |
| 20:18.16 | sje46 | I just downloaded a rar and extracted it; however it only extracted the directory and not any of the files within. I can view the files within file-roller, however. |
| 20:18.40 | valdyn | sje46: use unrar-nonfree |
| 20:18.58 | nsadmin | Xtreme, usually a browser will ask to be set the default browser when it is not and you start it |
| 20:19.18 | valdyn | sje46: the package name is probably "unrar" for the nonfree version |
| 20:19.35 | Xtreme | neither firefox is asking nor chrome |
| 20:19.41 | jelly-home | nsadmin: it does talk dns protocol. |
| 20:19.47 | Iridos | Xtreme, what happens when you call x-www-browser |
| 20:20.17 | valdyn | Xtreme: iirc xchat has an internal configuration setting that sets the browser |
| 20:20.21 | sje46 | valdyn: I havve unrar installed. It cannot find unrar-nonfree |
| 20:20.28 | Xtreme | Iridos, chrome |
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| 20:20.41 | valdyn | sje46: i just said that unrar is the non-free package already |
| 20:20.44 | Iridos | same with www-browser? |
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| 20:20.53 | sje46 | valdyn: and I'm saying unrar doesn't work. |
| 20:21.19 | valdyn | sje46: dpkg -S $(which unrar) |
| 20:21.47 | Xtreme | iridos, that gives me help syntax |
| 20:21.48 | valdyn | judd: versions unrar |
| 20:21.49 | judd | Package: unrar on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 1:3.8.2-1; squeeze/non-free: 1:3.9.10-1; sid/non-free: 1:4.1.4-1; wheezy/non-free: 1:4.1.4-1 |
| 20:21.56 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, hm... i think i enable logging for dnschache... no file again |
| 20:22.07 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, nsadmin maybe few more words about my setup |
| 20:22.09 | sje46 | "dpkg: /usr/bin/unrar not found" This is weird, because I *do* have unrar installed. It is an actual binary. |
| 20:22.26 | Benkinooby | i run that all on an embedded system, command line ony |
| 20:22.38 | valdyn | sje46: dpkg -l unrar |
| 20:22.39 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: huh, are you running tinydns and dnscache standalone, or via daemontools? |
| 20:22.42 | Iridos | dpkg, tell Xtreme about alternatives |
| 20:22.46 | Benkinooby | i have three additional computers, two in my LAN, one for sniffing one for traffic |
| 20:22.54 | Iridos | that's which sets what x-www-browser goes to |
| 20:23.01 | Benkinooby | the third one is sniffing the external (=internet connection) net |
| 20:23.14 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, standalone |
| 20:23.29 | sje46 | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/AHf0sHLM |
| 20:23.32 | jelly-home | I have no idea where the logs are supposed to end up that way. Maybe syslog. |
| 20:23.52 | valdyn | sje46: unrar is not installed, the unrar package is in non-free |
| 20:23.58 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, shouldn't they be in the file specified by /etc/init.d/dnscache? |
| 20:24.12 | valdyn | sje46: and this is what you need. |
| 20:24.17 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: I don't used /etc/init.d/dnscache, so I have no idea |
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| 20:24.44 | Iridos | Xtreme, update-alternatives --list x-www-browser shows you what you can set it to... update-alternatives --set x-www-browser <oneOfThose> sets it |
| 20:25.02 | sje46 | valdyn: when I type "unrar" without arguments it says "unrar: Archive not specified |
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| 20:25.22 | dvs | ,version unrar-nonfree |
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| 20:25.23 | judd | No package named 'unrar-nonfree' was found in i386. |
| 20:25.35 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, what i observe, when pinging an internal host at its name (specified by my tinydns server) is that it takes a long time, then i get an "bad address" and short before that i see a dns lookup on my external internface |
| 20:25.36 | valdyn | dvs: unrar-free or unrar |
| 20:25.38 | Xtreme | iridos, that is very very wierd,, firefox not in the list :( |
| 20:25.44 | dvs | ah |
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| 20:26.12 | Iridos | Xtreme, it's called iceweasel |
| 20:26.23 | Iridos | dpkg, tell Xtreme about iceweasel |
| 20:26.28 | sje46 | And I can unrar rars with file-roller, and presumably unrar |
| 20:26.41 | sje46 | Is unrar-nonfree for thigns like mp3? |
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| 20:26.47 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, the conclusion, that tinydns is working at all is the long time it takes util the dnsrequest is sent to the external net... |
| 20:26.52 | valdyn | sje46: its called "unrar" |
| 20:27.00 | valdyn | sje46: it is non-free |
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| 20:27.17 | Benkinooby | i added tinydns's ip into the resolv.conf file at first position ... and then two external dns servers |
| 20:27.22 | sje46 | valdyn: you didn't answer my question. |
| 20:27.23 | valdyn | sje46: its the original, so the most compatible |
| 20:27.38 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: do not add tinydns' IP to resolv.conf. |
| 20:27.48 | valdyn | sje46: the type of file has irrelevant |
| 20:28.09 | sje46 | valdyn: I have unrar already installed. It can extract some rars but not others. |
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| 20:28.37 | valdyn | sje46: you already showed that its not a program from debian |
| 20:28.45 | valdyn | sje46: so we can hardly know about it |
| 20:28.50 | sje46 | What does that mean? |
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| 20:29.04 | sje46 | 16:28 valdyn: sje46: you already showed that its not a program from debian <-- translate? |
| 20:29.06 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: that makes no sense. The correct approach is to use local recursors (ie. dnscache or some other recursor local to your network) in resolv.conf and let them ask the right authoritative dns server |
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| 20:29.32 | valdyn | sje46: you ran "dpkg -S $(which unrar)", the output of that command showed that your unrar is not from debian |
| 20:29.39 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, so 127.0.0.1 would be correct? |
| 20:29.42 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: the IP local dnscache is listening on should be in /etc/resolv.conf, and not much else |
| 20:29.47 | sje46 | "not from debian" <-- what do you mean? |
| 20:29.47 | Iridos | Xtreme, please keep it here in the channel |
| 20:29.52 | sje46 | not from debian repositories? |
| 20:29.59 | valdyn | sje46: yes |
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| 20:30.26 | valdyn | sje46: but technically were at "not from a debian package" |
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| 20:30.49 | sje46 | I didn't install it from anywhere else. I don't know if it installed with the OS or if I did sudo apt-get install unrar, but I didn't go on some website to get it, or add an extra repository |
| 20:31.17 | sje46 | "not from a debian package" -- what does this mean? Not from a .deb or not from a debian repository? |
| 20:31.19 | valdyn | sje46: we sure as hell cant know how you got it |
| 20:31.32 | valdyn | sje46: not from a .deb |
| 20:31.43 | sauvin | unrar is in debian repos. |
| 20:31.59 | valdyn | sauvin: no one is debating that |
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| 20:32.09 | sauvin | Then what's this about "not from debian"? |
| 20:32.10 | sje46 | valdyn: I'm pretty sure I didn't install it from a source that wasn't debian. |
| 20:32.30 | valdyn | sauvin: he has a file that is not from debian |
| 20:32.42 | sauvin | What's the file? |
| 20:32.43 | sje46 | No, scratched that. I'm POSITIVE I didn't install it from a source that wasn't debian. |
| 20:32.48 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, so to avoid any misunderstanding: i run dnscache and tinydns on the same machine (a firewall/router), which has 3 interfaces (extern, local and DMZ). the local interface has 192.168.1.1 |
| 20:32.50 | jelly-home | sje46: uh. what does "dpkg -S `which unrar`" say? |
| 20:33.01 | sje46 | scroll up, jelly-home |
| 20:33.12 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, dnscache listens on 192.168.1.1 |
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| 20:34.03 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: you can't have both dnscache and tinydns listening on the same interface. |
| 20:34.12 | sje46 | also, valdyn http://pastebin.com/tMs8b8vm /usr/bin/unrar shows up here. |
| 20:34.19 | jelly-home | sje46: uh. what does "dpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which unrar))" say? |
| 20:34.27 | jelly-home | :-) |
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| 20:34.46 | dvs | sje46: Looks like you have unrar-free |
| 20:34.56 | dvs | you need unrar (from non-free) |
| 20:35.10 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: so find out where dnscache is listening on, and use jsut that as nameserver for resolv.conf |
| 20:35.13 | sje46 | unrar-free: /usr/bin/unrar-free |
| 20:35.22 | sje46 | @ jelly-home |
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| 20:35.43 | sje46 | dvs: okay, how do i replace it? |
| 20:35.56 | jelly-home | sje46: well then. Try rar or unrar from unrar-nonfree package. Just install one of those. |
| 20:36.00 | sje46 | and also, dvs, that is fromd eian, right? valdyn is incorrect? |
| 20:36.00 | dvs | sje46: valdyn was trying to tell you all along |
| 20:36.03 | jelly-home | !tell sje46 about non-free sources |
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| 20:36.33 | jelly-home | erm. |
| 20:36.34 | sauvin | You have rars you can't unrar? |
| 20:36.48 | jelly-home | sje46: sorry, "rar" or "unrar" package. |
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| 20:37.12 | sje46 | sauvin: yes |
| 20:37.21 | jelly-home | sje46: note that "rar" is shareware |
| 20:37.21 | sauvin | sje46, what happens when you try? |
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| 20:37.34 | sje46 | hold on, I'm getting confused |
| 20:38.34 | dvs | sje46: Do what dpkg told you to do and then do "aptitude remove unrar-free; aptitude install unrar" |
| 20:39.23 | sje46 | But my unrar (which was apparently unrar-free) was still from debian, right? |
| 20:39.25 | sauvin | I want to know what error he gets. |
| 20:39.27 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, ok, it seems i have not understood an important part about dnscache and tinydns playing together... dnscache listens on 192.168.1.1 (that means it caches request from 192.168.1.1, right?) so i should enter 192.168.1.1 into resolv.conf - but then again you say i should not... |
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| 20:39.42 | sje46 | W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_squeeze_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages) |
| 20:40.03 | valdyn | sje46: your unrar was a symlink to unrar-free from a debian package |
| 20:40.13 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, the first entry of my resolv.conf is now 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' |
| 20:40.15 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: both tinydns and dnscache are services, listening for requests on a certain IP, both on the same port. Thus, they cannot run on the same IP. |
| 20:40.20 | sje46 | valdyn: but it was still from debian, right? |
| 20:40.24 | valdyn | sje46: yes |
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| 20:40.39 | sauvin | loses interest |
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| 20:40.42 | Klaus_Dieter | hello world |
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| 20:41.51 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: listening means a service allocates one port on a certain IP so that any connections to that (IP:port) tuple are managed by that service |
| 20:42.17 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, i understand that |
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| 20:42.52 | TTT | hi, I have a debian machine connected to a TV via HDMI. It's an AMD E-350 box, with Radeon 6310. X only allows using one resolution, 1280x720. And when I'm using that resolution, TV crops ~10-15 pixelrs from the screen edges... |
| 20:43.02 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: look at dnscache configuration, env/IP file, to see which IP it's configured to listen on |
| 20:43.12 | TTT | Is there a way to instruct X server not to use those 10-15 pixels at the screen edges? |
| 20:43.26 | sje46 | alright, problem solved. Thanks everyone! Also, just curious. Why was unrar-free unable to extract those rars? Is that a bug, or is that intentional? |
| 20:43.31 | tremon | TTT: see if your TV has a "just scan" mode (i.e. no overscan) |
| 20:43.35 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: it cannot be the same IP as a tinydns running on the same machine |
| 20:43.46 | TTT | tremon, will do |
| 20:43.57 | Xtreme | okay.. i downloaded firefox 11 from the site. and i installed it.. i set it as prefered application in system.. now, how to isntall it to update-alternatives and configure update-alternative x-www-browser to use firefox instead of chrome? |
| 20:44.10 | Xtreme | iceweasel is firefox 3.5 |
| 20:44.14 | Xtreme | so i updated |
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| 20:44.47 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, ok, i got that... i now tried what happens when i run tinydns only, no dnscache... but that does not work either... |
| 20:44.50 | Trewas | sje46: unrar-free can only extract files made with rar 2.x which is really old and most of the packages floating around are made with a newer one |
| 20:44.55 | dvs | !tell Xtreme about iceweasel backports |
| 20:45.19 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, so either tinydns or dnscache has to listen to 127.0.0.1 if i'm running both on the same IP |
| 20:45.22 | Benkinooby | i presume |
| 20:45.24 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: you have to run both if you want to be able to resolve for an internal domain. |
| 20:45.29 | sje46 | thanks, Trewas |
| 20:45.36 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: you CAN'T run both on the same IP. |
| 20:46.37 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: yeah, you could set up dnscache to listen on 127.0.0.1. (of course, then it can only be used on that machine only) |
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| 20:47.28 | Benkinooby | jelly-home sorry for saying "same IP" ... my fault... that was not what i had in mind |
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| 20:48.01 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: but if you want to have a recursor to configure other machines with, set up a second IP address on 192.168.1.x segment, let one be of tinydns, and a second one for dnscache |
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| 20:48.32 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: then point all the resolv.confs to dnscache IP |
| 20:48.36 | TTT | tremon, as far as I can see, no. I went through all the settings, but there was no overscan or not option. There is a way to adjust display position, but not size |
| 20:49.02 | TTT | vga-out worked fine with flgrx driver, but galium3d open-source driver disagreed with it last time I tried |
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| 20:49.36 | TTT | (something about detecting connected device, it did not recognize that sharp TV well) |
| 20:49.54 | TTT | problems with EDID or something |
| 20:50.09 | TTT | anyway, is there a way to crop my screen in software? xrandr or kms or anything? |
| 20:50.11 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, ok... i will work on that and take it as a solution for now.. but if you don't mind i'd like to ask you more about the 127.0.0.1 approach |
| 20:50.17 | tremon | TTT: that's unfortunate. I do not know about X' capability to do overscan compensation, maybe google can tell you |
| 20:50.32 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, what do you mean by " yeah, you could set up dnscache to listen on 127.0.0.1. (of course, then it can only be used on that machine only)" |
| 20:50.32 | tremon | TTT: does the driver detect the correct resolution or is that wrong too? |
| 20:50.55 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: 127.0.0.0/8 segment is machine-local, not visible from outside |
| 20:50.56 | TTT | I'll google "overscan compensation", I did google for cropping or padding or borders or margins, and found nothing |
| 20:51.09 | TTT | tremon, over HDMI it detects resolution fine |
| 20:51.17 | jelly-home | TTT: or google for your tv model and "no overscan" |
| 20:51.32 | TTT | jelly-home, that's also an option, thanks for ideas |
| 20:51.44 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, hm... so wouldn't it be ok to say i provide dnscache to "outside" and let tinydns only run internally? |
| 20:51.48 | jelly-home | it's often hidden or not obvious |
| 20:52.13 | Achylles | nsadmin, My rendering is working alright |
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| 20:52.36 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: that might work as well, but would hamper debugging (other clients would not be able to ask tinydns directly) |
| 20:53.31 | tremon | Matthew Garrett wrote a piece on TVs some time ago: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/8705.html . It's not directly relevant but it does add some contenxt. Moreover I always enjoy reading his pieces :) |
| 20:53.56 | jelly-home | yeah, his article did help me with my LG TV |
| 20:54.15 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, couldn't that be a wanted effect... for a user ther will be only one IP to ask for DNS... your set up would cause my network to have two IPs offering the same service for different domain spaces... |
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| 20:54.27 | jelly-home | (ie. setting video input name to PC magically put the tv into no-overscan mode) |
| 20:54.44 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: they're not the same service. |
| 20:55.00 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, yeah, sorry... i'm sloppy again :P |
| 20:55.02 | jhutchins | TTT: You can set up a "virtual screen" or "virtual desktop" in X that is larger than the screen display. Usually, you pan around on it, but it might be possible to pin it and use that for cropping. |
| 20:55.17 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: one is a recursor dns, one is an authoritative dns for your internal domain |
| 20:55.33 | jhutchins | TTT: It's not a feature I know much about, mostly I've disaBLED IT WHEN IT WAS ACCIDENTALLY ENABLED. |
| 20:55.43 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: users only need to know about the recursor (dnscache) |
| 20:55.44 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, i understand the difference |
| 20:55.46 | jhutchins | 'scuse the caps lock. |
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| 20:56.17 | dvs | WE'LL LET IT GO THIS TIME |
| 20:56.24 | jelly-home | Benkinooby: but it's useful to have a visible auth. dns and be able to verify its contents directly |
| 20:56.28 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, and the recursion would then ask tinydns running of a different IP if needed |
| 20:56.47 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, ok... i'll keep that i mind |
| 20:57.04 | jelly-home | right |
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| 20:59.18 | _ramok | hi |
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| 20:59.33 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, thank you very much for your help and input (for such a specific problem)... i'll try now to apply the the "hidden tinydns" solution... as i said before, i'm trying to find out what went wrong with a tutorial script so the steps are more or less given... i asume the authors of the script followed the hidden tinydns approch... i'll suggest your approach though... as my misery is partly the result of the "hidden tinydns" approach |
| 20:59.33 | Benkinooby | ;) |
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| 21:00.09 | jelly-home | TTT: more silliness from the interwebs: "I read that if you could send the Sharp a non-standard vertical sync frequency (refresh rate) a bit below the normal 60 Hz, the alternate View Mode would appear" |
| 21:00.10 | _ramok | i've tried to do a curl http://repo.varnish-cache.org/debian/GPG-key.txt | apt-key add - but got this message: gpg: '/etc/apt/trusted.gpg' cannot be opened |
| 21:00.11 | _ramok | gpg: keydb_get_keyblock failed: eof |
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| 21:00.15 | _ramok | do i miss anythign? |
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| 21:00.29 | jelly-home | TTT: http://michigantelephone.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/an-overscan-fix-for-the-sharp-lc-42sb45u-television-set-when-connected-to-a-computer-with-a-linux-operating-system-ubuntu-etc/ |
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| 21:01.11 | TTT | jelly-home, ok, I found my model, sharp aquos lc-26d44e-BK, I'm looking at it right now |
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| 21:02.56 | jelly-home | _ramok: is that apt-key command running as root |
| 21:03.16 | _ramok | jelly-home: i tried with sudo |
| 21:03.39 | jelly-home | _ramok: curl ... | sudo apt-key add - ? |
| 21:03.57 | _ramok | ah okay |
| 21:03.58 | _ramok | ... |
| 21:03.59 | _ramok | thanks |
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| 21:09.33 | Xtreme | guys configuring evolution, no SMTP option.. any way around? |
| 21:09.49 | Benkinooby | jelly-home, wow, it works! thank you! i set tinydns to listen to 127.0.0.1 and offer dnscache to 192.168.1.1 |
| 21:10.02 | Anthro | Anyone have any guesses on the timeframe for the next release? Yes, I know, when it's ready, but I'm looking for a ballpark idea. I want to install a version of a package from sid, but I'm on stable and it really wants to upgrade the whole system to testing before it will tolerate a sid package. |
| 21:10.26 | dvs | Anthro: What package? |
| 21:10.45 | Anthro | dvs: netatalk. Not available on backports. |
| 21:10.55 | dvs | !ssb |
| 21:10.56 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 21:11.43 | Anthro | dvs: Yeah, and building it myself is my backup plan. But if a testing freeze was right around the corner, I'd just upgrade to testing now. |
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| 21:12.13 | dvs | Anthro: I think it's planned for June |
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| 21:13.04 | Anthro | dvs: Hm. Okay, that's outside my limit for running testing/unstable. I'll build the package. Thanks. |
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| 21:14.05 | zleslie | Hi |
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| 21:16.08 | TTT | jelly-home, no luck so far finding that option in the TV, it just seems too old & stupid |
| 21:16.53 | zleslie | Where can I find where this link moved to? http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt |
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| 21:22.01 | steppe_ | hi |
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| 21:31.20 | pcormack | zleslie: no idea, what part are you interested in? |
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| 21:31.45 | archetech | what command will remove all .i386 files from a .686 deb 6 OS? |
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| 21:33.25 | cardamon | archetech: You don't know what you're asking. |
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| 21:35.33 | archetech | I dont hmm why dont you rephrase my question |
| 21:35.51 | sauvin | archetech, no. Explain what you want, and why. |
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| 21:38.12 | archetech | those files are for old cpu's I have a dual core e5300 they take up space and update for no reason |
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| 21:39.37 | sauvin | You dist-upgraded ? |
| 21:40.02 | TTT | jelly-home, tremon, jhutchins found it! xrandr -display :0 --output HDMI-0 --set underscan on --set "underscan hborder" 45 --set "underscan vborder" 30 |
| 21:40.11 | TTT | works well. Thanks for your help everyone |
| 21:40.28 | TTT | well, it works with radeon at least |
| 21:40.44 | jelly-home | TTT: /o\ |
| 21:41.16 | jelly-home | archetech: what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say on your Debian installation |
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| 21:41.59 | Xtreme | guys how to disable speakers after pluging in headphones? |
| 21:42.37 | archetech | says i386 |
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| 21:43.26 | archetech | kernel says i686 |
| 21:43.44 | flock-_ | Hello. Anyone can advice me a link or something with good iptables protection? udp/tcp |
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| 21:44.18 | zleslie | pcormack: I want the readme for partman-auto-raid, and perhaps an example. I hear it exists |
| 21:44.25 | jelly-home | archetech: what the kernel says is not important. Your whole OS is a Debian "i386" architecture. All of the userspace, all the apps. |
| 21:44.41 | dvs | flock-_: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 21:45.00 | jelly-home | archetech: this is normal for a 32bit installation. |
| 21:45.13 | pcormack | flock-_: stateful iptables rules |
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| 21:45.46 | sauvin | jelly-home, archetech's 32-bit apps are then being funneled through a thunk layer? |
| 21:45.55 | Xtreme | anyone? |
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| 21:46.55 | flock-_ | pcormack, what you mean? |
| 21:47.20 | jelly-home | sauvin: what? |
| 21:47.52 | sauvin | If he has a 32-bit userland but a 64-bit kernel, there's a layer inbetween ? |
| 21:48.04 | jelly-home | sauvin: he doesn't have a 64bit kernel |
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| 21:48.15 | sauvin | He said he did. |
| 21:48.26 | jelly-home | <archetech> kernel says i686 |
| 21:48.31 | sauvin | Oh... mea cupla, he just said "686". |
| 21:48.37 | jelly-home | that's 32bit |
| 21:48.38 | TTT | hmm, /msg dpkg overscan says it has no idea about overscan. Maybe we should add it? |
| 21:48.38 | cardamon | pats sauvin |
| 21:48.40 | sauvin | Mea coppola or whatever |
| 21:48.43 | Xtreme | well, google solution is not woking |
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| 21:49.08 | sauvin | Make a note: IRCing and gawking at pretty blondes are not compatible. |
| 21:49.18 | pcormack | flock-_: to specify a state for packets like RELATED,ESTABLISHED or NEW |
| 21:49.26 | archetech | is there a version command like lsb_release? |
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| 21:49.45 | jelly-home | !version |
| 21:49.45 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
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| 21:50.00 | pcormack | flock-_: plenty on the google machine on stateful firewalls |
| 21:50.17 | engla | archetech: just install lsb-release |
| 21:50.36 | archetech | 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 21:51.04 | sauvin | Yup, that's 32-bit. |
| 21:51.20 | archetech | so i386 pkgs are part of it ok ty |
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| 21:53.50 | archetech | deb does this so the iso can detect old cpu's at install which is nice for some folks |
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| 21:56.21 | sauvin | I didn't download a 32-bit or 64-bit ISO, I just downloaded some random install ISO. Bugger slapped AMD-64 on my machine. I'm thinking Debian-based distro installers do that, they select what they think is most appropriate for the machine they're installing onto. |
| 21:57.09 | engla | there's a hybrid 32/64 iso for debian |
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| 22:05.18 | jelly-home | sauvin: derivatives usually have their own installer. Debian only recently gained a combo 32+64 d-i image |
| 22:05.28 | jelly-home | one might call it... 96 |
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| 22:07.50 | Devastator | too bad it's not 69 :( |
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| 22:10.33 | Baen | evening |
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| 22:11.42 | cornfeed | can someone tell me how I can change the status of a package manually? currently it says a package didnt install properly but I fixed it manually.... |
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| 22:15.27 | jelly-home | cornfeed: let dpkg finish what it wants: dpkg --configure --pending |
| 22:16.10 | cornfeed | i did that |
| 22:16.13 | cornfeed | manually thought |
| 22:16.19 | cornfeed | though |
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| 22:19.11 | jelly-home | cornfeed: so what is the status of the package now? |
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| 22:19.40 | jelly-home | cornfeed: dpkg -s packagename | grep ^Status |
| 22:19.58 | jelly-home | "install ok installed" means everything is fine |
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| 22:21.22 | cornfeed | Status: install ok half-configured |
| 22:21.31 | cornfeed | I just had to do the configuring myself |
| 22:21.45 | cornfeed | is there anyway I can tell it that configuring went fine and to move on? |
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| 22:22.13 | pcormack | cornfeed: what is the package? |
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| 22:22.27 | cornfeed | samba4 |
| 22:22.40 | pcormack | might want to configure it so |
| 22:22.57 | jelly-home | cornfeed: again, let dpkg finish what it wants: dpkg --configure --pending |
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| 22:23.30 | jelly-home | that's the usual way |
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| 22:25.59 | jelly-home | less typical ways involve short-circuiting the postinst script with a well-placed "exit 0" |
| 22:26.16 | jelly-home | and then doing "dpkg --configure --pending" |
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| 22:28.16 | cornfeed | well no matter what the --configure keeps erroring out |
| 22:28.20 | cornfeed | it needs user input |
| 22:28.31 | cornfeed | is there a way to reset the status of the package? |
| 22:28.36 | jelly-home | cornfeed: how does it fail? Pastebin the whole output. |
| 22:29.52 | cornfeed | http://dpaste.org/6wM5A/ |
| 22:30.53 | jelly-home | cornfeed: and it does that even if you put an "exit 0" as the second line of its postinst script? |
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| 22:31.07 | cornfeed | ? |
| 22:31.17 | cornfeed | new to ubuntu |
| 22:31.27 | jelly-home | cornfeed: which debian release are you using? |
| 22:31.46 | cornfeed | and i know this is not #ubuntu.....12.04 |
| 22:32.08 | cornfeed | so yeah not pure debian |
| 22:32.10 | jelly-home | oh, that's not debian. |
| 22:32.16 | cornfeed | yeah |
| 22:32.18 | cornfeed | i know |
| 22:32.29 | jelly-home | I don't want to mess with that, sorry. |
| 22:32.35 | cornfeed | -_- |
| 22:32.50 | cornfeed | dpkg is dpkg is dpkg no? |
| 22:32.52 | dpkg | cornfeed: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 22:33.16 | themill | cornfeed: broken init scripts are specific to the package that provides them |
| 22:33.24 | themill | s/init/maintainer/ |
| 22:33.26 | jelly-home | cornfeed: this is not a channel for dpkg, and you're experiencing a packaging bug which is highly distro specific |
| 22:33.38 | cornfeed | okay.... |
| 22:34.01 | jelly-home | ,versions samba4 |
| 22:34.02 | judd | Package: samba4 on i386 -- sid: 4.0.0~alpha19+dfsg1-5 |
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| 22:34.36 | cornfeed | well i still dont see why i cant just force the status update |
| 22:35.04 | jelly-home | you probably can, but ask the ubuntu people about the approach optimal for that distro |
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| 22:36.17 | jelly-home | doing half-assed overrides may cause trouble later on, and I'm not comfortable with ubuntu enough to be 100% sure something that would work on Debian won't break the system horribly |
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| 22:39.23 | cornfeed | very used to arch and gentoo now....ubuntu is new territory... |
| 22:40.13 | jelly-home | try asking in ##linux or #ubuntu |
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| 22:47.00 | greyEAX | hoyo is there a way i can see what device is marked as my input device? |
| 22:47.30 | greyEAX | i was having trouble in a fedora livecd with mic audio, but then found i could go into settings and change to 'mic 2' which worked which leads me to believe |
| 22:47.45 | greyEAX | that apparently there is more than one detectable mic input on my system |
| 22:47.53 | greyEAX | i was wondering how i can check which one is enabled |
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| 22:53.03 | simonlnu | alsamixer |
| 22:53.18 | robertzaccour | What would happen if I chose not to install grub during installation? |
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| 22:53.23 | wolfric | what's the difference between inetutils-ping and iputils-ping |
| 22:53.47 | robertzaccour | Thats what I did before and have a feeling that is what corrupted my HDD |
| 22:54.19 | Listar | hi, i have 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 how i update to the new version? |
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| 23:00.10 | Baen | hello, im trying to install debian via netinstall. I have the appropriate .ucode files for my wlan device and its detected during boot however its only allowing network authentication over wep |
| 23:00.18 | Baen | is there anyway of authenticating over wpa? |
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| 23:12.05 | jelly-home | Listar: well, does apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 show any newer versions? |
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| 23:21.27 | newbie_C | night |
| 23:21.37 | nsadmin | morning? |
| 23:21.49 | newbie_C | not here :p |
| 23:21.56 | newbie_C | how do you solved it? http://pastebin.com/S7ZyRxMK |
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| 23:22.37 | nsadmin | copy it to gist.github.com :) |
| 23:22.49 | newbie_C | ok |
| 23:23.39 | nsadmin | (which has no ads, no capchas, and doesn't crash muh konkerer |
| 23:23.52 | newbie_C | ready: https://gist.github.com/2440218 |
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| 23:25.27 | newbie_C | see this https://gist.github.com/2440223 |
| 23:25.29 | nsadmin | what's a GString? |
| 23:26.04 | engla | newbie_C: syntax problems on linex 7 and 8 |
| 23:26.13 | engla | *lines |
| 23:27.06 | engla | newbie_C: GLib and C are not really on-topic here. But you have a GString** so you need &(*str)->str |
| 23:27.11 | engla | on line 7 |
| 23:27.54 | nsadmin | according to the paste that's line 8 (and 9) |
| 23:28.03 | engla | it's off by one |
| 23:28.14 | engla | seeing the error message below |
| 23:28.34 | engla | it's confusing either way |
| 23:28.36 | nsadmin | oh, I see... it's counting from the file |
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| 23:29.43 | nsadmin | newbie_C: get a copy of Allan I Holub's The C Companion |
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| 23:30.08 | nsadmin | which has two extensive chapters on pointers |
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| 23:33.06 | beder | "pointers are so much fun" said the person with sadistic personality disorder |
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| 23:34.06 | Alam_Squeeze | but pointers are fun! |
| 23:34.49 | nsadmin | just get lclint and be happy |
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| 23:36.45 | dani70 | hi guys, a question about sources.list |
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| 23:37.25 | Alam_Squeeze | what would cause mount not to allow bind mounts? I trying to bind mount my Debian /dev into this Ubuntu root filesystem's /dev so I can chroot and fix up it's grub2 setup after I copy the filesystem to a new hard drive |
| 23:37.37 | Alam_Squeeze | mount ‐B /dev /media/_/dev or mount ‐-bind /dev /media/_/dev just prints out the --help output |
| 23:37.38 | dani70 | I'm using Software sources in wheezy, but the sources listed don't match those in sources.list file |
| 23:38.13 | dani70 | should I go command line ? |
| 23:38.46 | Alam_Squeeze | ... NVM, -o bind worked |
| 23:40.12 | nsadmin | dani70, hmm. so, your preamble isn't matching your question... at least, I don't yet see a relation... so I'll just ask you, what are you asking? |
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| 23:42.01 | dani70 | nsadmin sorry, I want to go from wheezy stable to testing, software sources isn't working as I expected |
| 23:42.19 | nsadmin | wheezy is testing, so you're already thgere |
| 23:42.43 | dani70 | should i attempt to use software sources anyway or would be easier to use command line ? |
| 23:42.53 | beder | ? |
| 23:42.58 | beder | I think you're confusing your terms |
| 23:43.22 | nsadmin | first, let's get this part out of the way... there is no upgrade from wheezy to testing because (currently) wheezy IS testing |
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| 23:43.43 | dani70 | sorry again, too little sleep :) |
| 23:43.51 | beder | http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
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| 23:44.01 | beder | this might help |
| 23:44.03 | dani70 | I'm in stable |
| 23:44.23 | dani70 | want to go testing |
| 23:44.24 | beder | ok |
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| 23:44.55 | beder | deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free |
| 23:44.55 | beder | deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free |
| 23:44.55 | beder | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 23:44.55 | beder | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 23:44.59 | dani70 | installed from CD and changed sources to http stable |
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| 23:45.42 | beder | http://pastebin.com/95gyu8Jv |
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| 23:45.52 | dani70 | beder, I use http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php, that's not the problem |
| 23:45.56 | beder | I'm on wheezy, which is testing, which is what you want |
| 23:46.03 | dani70 | yes |
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| 23:46.11 | themill | dani70: please don't use that site... it generates crap sources.list files |
| 23:46.32 | dani70 | themill ok thanks |
| 23:47.16 | nsadmin | just so you know,,, I'm NOT going to ANY pastebin.com. None. Zero. aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl and then use nopaste where you were using pastebinit |
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| 23:48.10 | dani70 | anyway, lets go for another question, can I run dist-upgrade from software sources program after I change sources, is is ran automagically as I change sources ? |
| 23:48.27 | beder | apt-get update first |
| 23:48.32 | themill | dpkg: tell dani70 about squeeze->wheezy |
| 23:48.33 | beder | "first" is not part of the command |
| 23:48.43 | nsadmin | not run automagically. |
| 23:48.54 | dani70 | beder "first" hehehe |
| 23:49.20 | nsadmin | dani70, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:49.24 | dani70 | ok, thats why I messed up |
| 23:50.00 | dani70 | nsadmin I'm in another box now, but I tell you I'm in stable installed from CD |
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| 23:50.44 | nsadmin | show it from the machine you wanted to upgrade |
| 23:51.27 | nsadmin | so far the phrase you used "upgrade from wheezy to testing" has not been resolved |
| 23:51.53 | nsadmin | so please show what that box says for that command |
| 23:51.53 | beder | that's easy |
| 23:52.01 | beder | echo testing > /etc/debian_version |
| 23:52.03 | beder | there you go |
| 23:52.28 | dani70 | nsadin, I'm in stable, squeeze, 6.0.4, ok ? |
| 23:53.12 | newbie_C | engla thanks man =) |
| 23:53.12 | nsadmin | dani70, which is what /etc/debian_version contains? what is its exact text? |
| 23:53.48 | dani70 | I'm in another box at work now, will check at home |
| 23:54.09 | kish | any way around this aptitude error http://pastie.org/pastes/3831016/text |
| 23:54.25 | nsadmin | oh ok, so you can't get to it right now... ok |
| 23:55.17 | themill | kish: do you have "contrib" in your sources.list? |
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| 23:55.56 | dani70 | nsadmin I've installed a few days ago, changed software sources and tried to install upgraded packages, buy didn't run dist-upgrade, things went wrong and that's why I'm asking |
| 23:56.09 | kish | themill, no, i don'ẗ |
| 23:56.16 | dani70 | if software sources program does not run update dist-upgrade, then I'll do everything from command line, that's what I wanted to know |
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| 23:56.53 | themill | kish: the packages aptitude can't find are in contrib; /msg dpkg contrib |
| 23:57.03 | kish | themill, i added the contrib lines |
| 23:57.06 | kish | let me try now ;) |
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| 23:57.43 | dani70 | thanks nsadmin, themill and beder for your help |
| 23:57.52 | newbie_C | engla, printf("VALUE of struct: %s\n", *(str)->str); // beautiful =) |
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| 23:58.02 | nsadmin | dani70, ok, well it seems like you just need to complete the upgrade... |
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| 23:58.14 | kish | themill, that worked! thanks |
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| 23:58.23 | kish | btw, how did you know contrib was missing? |
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| 23:58.52 | nsadmin | certain things are easy to spot when you know what you're looking at |
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| 23:59.39 | themill | kish: glx-alternative-fglrx is in contrib which apt couldn't find, but it could find libgl1-fglrx-glx which is in non-free. A little ESP-over-IRC and some wild-arsed-guessing is all that's required after that ;) |
