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| 00:00.01 | karsten | Oh, and you need to modify for older sysstat which uses AM/PM formats. As of 10.0.x, it uses proper 24h timestamps, which makes life much easier. |
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| 00:01.07 | karsten | I've got a script which generates a bunch of plots for a bunch of hosts grabbing data over ssh in about 1m35s for 8 hosts. |
| 00:01.18 | karsten | (faster if you use ssh connection pooling as well0. |
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| 00:02.58 | Bronze | hmm - if you throw some packaging around that you'd be able to sell it! :-=) |
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| 00:16.03 | pablo | hi guys, how can I push the orphan of a package? |
| 00:17.12 | karsten | Bronze: :) |
| 00:17.57 | nkuttler | pablo: ? |
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| 00:19.12 | nkuttler | pablo: do you want deborphan? |
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| 00:21.07 | pablo | nkuttler: nop xD mantain a package, the actual mantainer is inactive, I need someone to orpahn it |
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| 00:26.31 | nkuttler | pablo: you want to become a debian developer? |
| 00:28.25 | pablo | nkuttler: DM |
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| 00:31.37 | nkuttler | !tell pablo about mentors |
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| 00:42.59 | tsukasa_ | question... is anyone interested in a device to let you use your phone as a unviersal remote? |
| 00:43.06 | tsukasa_ | would control xbmc and such too... open source... |
| 00:43.34 | karsten | Ah: solved the netcat / jobs issue with filedescriptiors: nc -u host portnumber <(echo 1) & |
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| 00:43.43 | gnarface | tsukasa_: shhh!. this is a support channel. you'll get in trouble |
| 00:43.44 | karsten | .... then kill $( jobs -p ) at end of script. |
| 00:44.13 | tsukasa_ | oh |
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| 00:45.48 | gnarface | tsukasa_: help me install debian on my palm t5 though and then configure it to be a universal remote and we're talking |
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| 00:46.38 | tsukasa_ | gnarface, doesn't much matter, most devices do not have an IR out |
| 00:46.50 | gnarface | tsukasa_: my palm does :) |
| 00:47.01 | abrotman | yay irda |
| 00:47.06 | gnarface | tsukasa_: hmm. i think most palms do, actually |
| 00:47.16 | gnarface | tsukasa_: until recently most phones did too |
| 00:47.34 | gnarface | tsukasa_: but unless your app runs on debian you're soliciting in the wrong channel |
| 00:47.59 | tsukasa_ | gnarface, most xbmc people use debian |
| 00:48.06 | abrotman | anyway ... |
| 00:48.07 | tsukasa_ | hence the channel |
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| 00:48.18 | tsukasa_ | home theater affecionados |
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| 00:48.21 | gnarface | googles xmbc |
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| 00:48.34 | bikcmp | where are some lenny mirrors? |
| 00:48.36 | tsukasa_ | plus it's open source andriod programming on top of it |
| 00:48.43 | bikcmp | it isn't on the default repos. |
| 00:49.01 | themill | points bikcmp at /topic |
| 00:49.05 | abrotman | bikcmp: archive.debian.org, good luck |
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| 00:49.51 | bikcmp | themill: i saw the topic :P |
| 00:49.56 | bikcmp | didn't explain WHERE i could find them. |
| 00:50.22 | abrotman | probably shpouldn't find them .. upgrade to squeeze instead :) |
| 00:50.26 | themill | And I presume "/msg dpkg lenny" was far too obtuse to try. |
| 00:50.32 | bikcmp | abrotman: i've nver upgraded ;p |
| 00:50.35 | bikcmp | no idea how. frankly. |
| 00:50.45 | bikcmp | plus i'm running this on an /extremely/ low power box |
| 00:50.47 | bikcmp | it'd take forever. |
| 00:51.04 | abrotman | right .. that's in the topic |
| 00:51.32 | gnarface | bikcmp: you missed something important inferred by themill's comment - /topic didn't tell you where to find what you were asking for, but it *did* tell you how to find info on how to find what you're asking for |
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| 00:51.49 | bikcmp | actually, it did. hm. |
| 00:51.51 | bikcmp | didn't see that part. |
| 00:52.04 | gnarface | bikcmp: i'd blame microsoft :) |
| 00:52.20 | bikcmp | not suprising |
| 00:52.31 | bikcmp | archive. worked, though. |
| 00:52.33 | gnarface | bikcmp: everywhere else, you're meant to read the text presented to you, not just click "ok" while reflexively ignoring it |
| 00:52.40 | bikcmp | gnarface: eh. |
| 00:52.44 | bikcmp | gnarface: the semicolon messed me up. |
| 00:52.52 | bikcmp | plus, I don't want to upgrade. |
| 00:52.54 | bikcmp | it'd take hours. |
| 00:52.54 | bikcmp | \ |
| 00:53.00 | abrotman | you should |
| 00:53.01 | bikcmp | this box is, like. yeah. kinda slow. |
| 00:53.06 | bikcmp | just a bit slow. |
| 00:53.17 | abrotman | it's better than not having security support .. suck it up .. let it run over night |
| 00:53.24 | bikcmp | abrotman: it doesn't connect to www |
| 00:53.29 | bikcmp | well, it's firewalled by a decent machine |
| 00:53.38 | bikcmp | it only has outgoing access, and it's just a file server :P |
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| 00:55.08 | abrotman | it only has outgoing .. but not www .. okay |
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| 00:57.05 | bikcmp | ick |
| 00:57.09 | bikcmp | well, ran into another problem |
| 00:57.10 | bikcmp | debian:/tmp# mount /dev/sdb1 usb |
| 00:57.10 | bikcmp | cd umount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs' |
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| 00:57.27 | bikcmp | i've never worked with this stuff on such a low level. how can I get it to recognize ntfs? |
| 00:57.49 | karsten | bikcmp: modprobe ntfs-ng |
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| 00:58.01 | karsten | bikcmp: ... IIRC. You've got to load the kernel driver. |
| 00:58.03 | gnarface | squeeze is pretty nice... |
| 00:58.16 | gnarface | i've been using debian since sarge |
| 00:58.20 | bikcmp | debian:/tmp# modprobe ntfs-ng |
| 00:58.21 | bikcmp | FATAL: Module ntfs_ng not found. |
| 00:58.46 | gnarface | bikcmp: custom kernel ? |
| 00:58.50 | kaizoku | try ntfs-3g |
| 00:58.52 | bikcmp | gnarface: i don't believe so |
| 00:59.04 | karsten | or just plain 'ntfs' |
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| 00:59.28 | karsten | find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel -name \*ntfs\* |
| 00:59.35 | karsten | ./kernel/fs/ntfs/ntfs.ko |
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| 00:59.43 | abrotman | if he's on lenny, it has to be built |
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| 00:59.47 | karsten | ... shows up on my box with a 3.0.0-16 kernel. |
| 00:59.48 | abrotman | i think |
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| 01:00.01 | karsten | !tell bikcmp about ntfs |
| 01:00.19 | bikcmp | fwiw 3g didn't work |
| 01:00.31 | karsten | bikcmp: Read what dpkg just told you. |
| 01:00.51 | bikcmp | ooh |
| 01:01.08 | bikcmp | ok. |
| 01:01.15 | bikcmp | i know how to change the paths it gave me, but the uid I don't understand. |
| 01:01.19 | bikcmp | what should the UID Be? |
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| 01:01.58 | karsten | bikcmp: you're talking about the mount command itself? |
| 01:02.11 | karsten | bikcmp: Just use the partition name. UUID is mostly for /etc/fstab. |
| 01:02.31 | abrotman | This isn't the droid you seek ... |
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| 01:04.08 | bikcmp | karsten: it mentioned something about fuse. |
| 01:04.10 | karsten | is confused as to whether or not he should be confused or not. |
| 01:04.11 | bikcmp | don't I need to install something? |
| 01:04.26 | LtL | bikcmp: you need the fuse module loaded |
| 01:04.28 | karsten | bikcmp: fuse == FUSE: Filesystem in userspace. |
| 01:04.35 | LtL | iirc |
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| 01:04.49 | bikcmp | 'fuse' loaded. |
| 01:04.51 | bikcmp | :P |
| 01:05.09 | gnarface | *sigh* ntfs with a lenny kernel ... as though that's gonna be less painful than upgrading to squeeze |
| 01:05.18 | karsten | I haven't messed with NTFS for a bit. |
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| 01:06.08 | bikcmp | still doesn't seem to work. |
| 01:06.12 | bikcmp | do I need to reboot, or something? |
| 01:06.21 | abrotman | hey i know .. you could upgrade to squeeze |
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| 01:06.38 | LtL | no reboot needed bikcmp |
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| 01:07.36 | bikcmp | abrotman: :P |
| 01:07.47 | bikcmp | abrotman: it'll take 2 days. |
| 01:07.49 | bikcmp | seriously. |
| 01:07.52 | abrotman | it will not |
| 01:07.57 | bikcmp | abrotman: it will on my hw. |
| 01:08.00 | bikcmp | believe me |
| 01:08.04 | abrotman | bet it doens't |
| 01:08.09 | bikcmp | abrotman: it's 200 mhz. :) |
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| 01:08.21 | abrotman | bikcmp: i've done upgrades on slower hardware in less time |
| 01:08.26 | bikcmp | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.28 | divbell | jasonwert has the bier, i suspect |
| 01:08.38 | abrotman | bikcmp: does it have X ? |
| 01:08.42 | bikcmp | X? |
| 01:08.45 | bikcmp | as in, the window manager? |
| 01:08.48 | bikcmp | no, it's completely cli |
| 01:08.53 | abrotman | bikcmp: less than 8hrs |
| 01:08.55 | bikcmp | it has almost nothing on it. |
| 01:08.58 | bikcmp | 8 hours, oh boy ;p |
| 01:08.59 | abrotman | divbell: do you need help ? |
| 01:09.26 | divbell | sure, what's on tap? |
| 01:09.49 | abrotman | Debian help |
| 01:09.53 | divbell | no |
| 01:09.57 | divbell | do you need help? |
| 01:10.06 | abrotman | divbell: please go play somewhere else |
| 01:10.14 | divbell | lighten up |
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| 01:10.38 | abrotman | divbell: this channel is for Debian support, please try to stay on-topic |
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| 01:14.27 | InSoMn1ac | so here is something funny, after 15-20min of enjoying some music my sound just stops working for some reason |
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| 01:16.25 | abrotman | InSoMn1ac: using what player? |
| 01:16.54 | InSoMn1ac | abrotman: actually it was online, browser/chrome |
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| 01:17.33 | abrotman | flash? html5 ? |
| 01:17.51 | abrotman | javascript? |
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| 01:18.58 | InSoMn1ac | abrotman: flash, but its the same problem in players as well |
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| 01:19.45 | abrotman | InSoMn1ac: so all sound is now broken? |
| 01:19.47 | flaggy | hello. I'm at lenovo site, customizing a laptop. There's 4 wireless adapters possibilities. I want to find out those which work best with debian. Is there a page with that information? |
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| 01:20.01 | InSoMn1ac | abrotman: yes |
| 01:20.15 | abrotman | flaggy: not generally, but usually the intel ones are the easiest |
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| 01:22.24 | flaggy | there are 3 intel adapters. I still have to figure out their differences :P |
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| 01:22.39 | karsten | InSoMn1ac: fuser -v $(find /dev/ -group audio) |
| 01:22.52 | karsten | InSoMn1ac: ... should show if anything's got your audio device(s) tied up. |
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| 01:24.27 | n-iCe | can anyone help me with my microphone? seems to not be working |
| 01:24.35 | Ard1t | abrotman: sorry what was the command again as i got disconnected |
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| 01:25.24 | n-iCe | I use HDA INTEL (alsa mixer) that's what the volume control says |
| 01:25.31 | n-iCe | all the options are enabled and with the volume up |
| 01:26.53 | gnarface | n-iCe: most common problem with that card is failure to autodetect. figure out which subrevision of the reference device you're using and pass it to the model= parameter for the driver |
| 01:27.31 | gnarface | n-iCe: without doing that there is a high probability that your audio jacks won't be in the correct order or even all active/correct |
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| 01:27.46 | n-iCe | gnarface: don't get what should I do :/ |
| 01:27.48 | abrotman | Ard1t: command for what? |
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| 01:28.42 | bikcmp | for a slow device, what should I use for it's file system. |
| 01:28.45 | bikcmp | s/./?/ |
| 01:29.04 | InSoMn1ac | abrotman: that was me about the sound broken |
| 01:29.15 | abrotman | command ? |
| 01:29.27 | abrotman | i just asked if it was all of your sonud |
| 01:29.34 | InSoMn1ac | yes |
| 01:29.52 | InSoMn1ac | then you suggest it the fuser ... |
| 01:29.59 | abrotman | no, i didn't |
| 01:30.05 | InSoMn1ac | right |
| 01:30.09 | abrotman | that was karsten |
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| 01:30.44 | InSoMn1ac | okay must of got it wrong |
| 01:30.51 | abrotman | i'll say |
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| 01:32.13 | InSoMn1ac | abrotman: anyway, so yes it's all broken, any suggestions? |
| 01:32.44 | abrotman | karsten was the one helping you |
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| 01:33.05 | LtL | InSoMn1ac: logout/login ..pardon the intervention.. |
| 01:33.07 | gnarface | n-iCe: well first you have to identify which type of hda intel device you have. they range all the way across the board from stereo-only laptop cards to 7.1 channel surround-sound rigs |
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| 01:34.13 | InSoMn1ac | karsten: still around? |
| 01:34.16 | nycjv321 | hey I am trying to install the latest version of perl on Debian Squeeze. However the latest version from aptitue install is 5.10.1 |
| 01:34.26 | nycjv321 | and thats a little outdated.. |
| 01:34.57 | dvs | ,versions perl5 |
| 01:34.58 | judd | No package named 'perl5' was found in i386. |
| 01:35.03 | dvs | doh |
| 01:35.30 | abrotman | judd: versions perl |
| 01:35.31 | judd | Package: perl on i386 -- lenny: 5.10.0-19lenny5; lenny-security: 5.10.0-19lenny5; squeeze-security: 5.10.1-17squeeze2; squeeze: 5.10.1-17squeeze3; sid: 5.14.2-9; wheezy: 5.14.2-9 |
| 01:35.44 | InSoMn1ac | LtL: if you don't mind me asking what would that do to help in this case? |
| 01:36.36 | InSoMn1ac | LtL: i mean to fix the problem |
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| 01:36.45 | nycjv321 | why the different version? (im new to debian) |
| 01:36.45 | LtL | InSoMn1ac: if sound just choked while streaming or listening, i'd just logout and login, prrrobably clear right up,. |
| 01:37.08 | InSoMn1ac | LtL: ok, i'll give it a shot |
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| 01:37.52 | karsten | IdleOne: Da. |
| 01:38.05 | karsten | IdleOne: Sorry. |
| 01:38.16 | karsten | abrotman: Not very patient that one is. |
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| 01:38.41 | abrotman | karsten: i'm crying .. |
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| 01:39.28 | dvs | nycjv321: Different release versions of Debian (current and future) |
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| 01:39.54 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: no luck with that |
| 01:40.00 | nycjv321 | is there anyway to bypass that? |
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| 01:40.19 | nycjv321 | I think 5.014 has been out for atleast a year |
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| 01:41.27 | abrotman | any way? yes .. good idea? not so much |
| 01:42.15 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: try this in a terminal, 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' |
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| 01:44.30 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: no noise/sound |
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| 01:46.09 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: hrm |
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| 01:46.46 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: does that file exist..did you say you're using lenny? |
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| 01:47.46 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: squeeze, yes the file exists |
| 01:47.58 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: it |
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| 01:48.22 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: I can't say i've ever had sound just quit on me, once it works, it keeps working...reboot worst case scenario |
| 01:48.24 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: it's a laptop HP Pavilion DV9000 |
| 01:48.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | why is it lm_sensoirs is so buggy |
| 01:48.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | ?? |
| 01:48.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | i cant get it to even repspond to an ignore for a fan.. |
| 01:48.50 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: make sure its not muted |
| 01:48.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got the config specified any everything |
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| 01:49.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | is it really that brken?? |
| 01:49.35 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: can't be muted because it was working fine and it just quit on me |
| 01:50.03 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: i am starting to wonder if it's the sound card |
| 01:51.26 | InSoMn1aC | before going into digging (reboting).. |
| 01:52.07 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: not onboard sound huh, lspci -v ..look for your card |
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| 01:57.16 | InSoMn1aC | rebooted = still no sound |
| 01:58.20 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: that's not good. lspci -v check to see the sound controller is still recognized, check dmesg also |
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| 02:01.18 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: as i thought, sound controller/card no where on the list |
| 02:01.38 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: how old is the laptop |
| 02:02.08 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: few years |
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| 02:02.48 | ACL_Tear | What is the best way to tell if I am using non-free software in my Debian squeeze or not? |
| 02:02.51 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: dmesg probably shows an error too...might be a dead chip |
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| 02:04.56 | LtL | ACL_Tear: is 'non-free' listed in /etc/apt/sources.list or have you manually installed any? I can't think of any command to tell unless you query individual packages w/dpkg -s foo |
| 02:05.48 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: is it hot where you are? it may come back after its cooled off but it's more likely toast |
| 02:06.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | ugh |
| 02:06.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | its so not working at all |
| 02:06.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | moving on.. |
| 02:06.59 | mick_laptop | heh, the nick reminds me of the aol days |
| 02:07.04 | mick_laptop | A/s/L :) |
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| 02:07.28 | LtL | mick_laptop: aol'ers hah... i remember those days too |
| 02:08.48 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: if it's not totally toast it will be soon for sure even if when it cools down and works for few more minutes |
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| 02:09.00 | ACL_Tear | LtL: nope, no non-free in etc/apt/sources.list. Thanks |
| 02:09.12 | mick_laptop | Eryn_1983_FL: what are you trying to do, I just got back |
| 02:09.13 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: true |
| 02:09.22 | LtL | ACL_Tear: sure, welcome |
| 02:09.57 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: i feel your pain for what its worth |
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| 02:12.29 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: thanks, i'll have to make do for some time, HP pavilion/DV series suck |
| 02:13.14 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: i've seen some run good, just not for long... might be worth sending it in |
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| 02:13.44 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: sure, with debian on it :) |
| 02:14.41 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: ah, yeah..forgot about that, they shiuldn't care what OS is on it, an oscilloscope doesn't know the difference |
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| 02:17.39 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: weekend near by, i'll have some time play with it, take out the toolbox and start disassembling |
| 02:18.30 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: give HP a call, maybe you can swap out the part...never worked with those ppl myself |
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| 02:18.50 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: neither do i |
| 02:18.59 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: might call for some intricate soldering though. |
| 02:19.28 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: bottom line = total suckage. |
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| 02:19.53 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: yeah, had that feeling from the first moment the sound went dead |
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| 02:20.26 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: you're intuition is likely on the mark. |
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| 02:20.46 | LtL | heat kills electronics |
| 02:21.03 | InSoMn1aC | more then we expect |
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| 02:22.49 | InSoMn1aC | LtL: anyways, i'm off mate, thanks for everything, have a good one |
| 02:23.01 | LtL | InSoMn1aC: take care, g'luck |
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| 02:23.17 | InSoMn1aC | see ya |
| 02:23.22 | knoxy | hi! I'm using debian wheezy in my dell l502x. The system is very cool, but when I try to connect the hdmi cable with my external monitor not work.. The secondary monitor in hdmi port is not detected. How can I do to fix it? thanks |
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| 02:35.51 | roboman2444 | whats the best screen recording software for debian? |
| 02:35.51 | roboman2444 | http://stream-recorder.com/forum/best-screen-capture-software-linux-t3720.html?s=023466727d686209e93b9c319f578ceb& |
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| 02:36.01 | roboman2444 | i am lookinga t these.. .recordmydesktop sucks |
| 02:36.08 | roboman2444 | xvidcap and istanbul look good |
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| 02:37.20 | roboman2444 | anyone? |
| 02:38.06 | abrotman | recordmydesktop ? |
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| 02:38.56 | kallisti | when I connect a VGA output into my laptop, is there any kind of event I can catch to run code from? |
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| 02:40.17 | nevyn | kallisti: not without polling I don't think |
| 02:40.40 | nevyn | X may advertise it on dbus but I doubt it. |
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| 02:42.27 | ectospasm | is anyone here in #debian-next? I'm running wheezy and I need some support. |
| 02:42.54 | nevyn | ectospasm: just ask there. |
| 02:43.12 | ectospasm | nevyn: yes, but to get in there I apparently need to be invited. )-; |
| 02:43.21 | nevyn | ectospasm: wrong network try oftc |
| 02:43.29 | ectospasm | gotcha. |
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| 02:44.11 | abrotman | or ask here |
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| 02:45.54 | roboman2444 | Back... Any word on the screencap? |
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| 02:48.10 | rypervenche | roboman2444: I use ffmpeg. |
| 02:48.26 | roboman2444 | Yea. Could also use that... |
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| 02:49.49 | rypervenche | roboman2444: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4f56fb09/ |
| 02:50.07 | roboman2444 | Thanks! |
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| 03:05.51 | bikcmp | ick. |
| 03:05.52 | bikcmp | debian:~# apt-get clean |
| 03:05.52 | bikcmp | E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing. |
| 03:05.52 | bikcmp | E: Unable to read /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/ - opendir (2 No such file or directory) |
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| 03:05.59 | bikcmp | shrugs. |
| 03:06.06 | Jef91 | So I'm using nm-applet on Debian Wheezy and I am getting "not authorized to control networking" when trying to connect to a wireless access point. Any ideas? My user is part of the netdev group already. |
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| 03:06.37 | roboman2444 | Jef91: there is a command to re load the groups stuff... That might work... Also try wicd |
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| 03:06.49 | Jef91 | roboman2444 WICD only half works |
| 03:06.53 | roboman2444 | Ah |
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| 03:06.59 | Jef91 | It fails to connect to a good deal of access points |
| 03:07.07 | Jef91 | was hoping to have better support with nm-applet |
| 03:07.12 | Jef91 | which is what I use on Ubuntu without issues :( |
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| 03:08.34 | simonlnu | bikcmp: don't paste. thanks. second, just mkdir it |
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| 03:09.07 | simonlnu | bikcmp: i'm betting someone did a rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/* at some point |
| 03:09.10 | bikcmp | i didn't |
| 03:09.14 | bikcmp | hm |
| 03:09.19 | bikcmp | i just mkdir'ed the directory though |
| 03:09.24 | bikcmp | worked |
| 03:09.32 | simonlnu | only way (other than fs corruption) it'd be gone |
| 03:09.53 | simonlnu | or a messed up restor from back up maybe |
| 03:09.58 | simonlnu | restore* |
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| 03:10.02 | mmnicolas | or you followed some posts on a blog recommending to put /var/cache on tmpfs in fstab |
| 03:10.13 | simonlnu | eew |
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| 03:10.36 | simonlnu | that would break a lot of things... |
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| 03:13.11 | simonlnu | i remember when apt-get was hella picky about the lock files |
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| 03:16.51 | mparodi_ | !version pidgin |
| 03:17.11 | mparodi_ | how was the command the version...? |
| 03:17.13 | LtL | , versions pidgin |
| 03:17.14 | judd | Package: pidgin on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.7.3-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze2; sid: 2.10.2-1; wheezy: 2.10.2-1; experimental: 2.10.2-1.1 |
| 03:17.21 | mparodi_ | thank you LtL |
| 03:17.30 | LtL | mparodi_: welcome |
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| 03:20.18 | mparodi_ | it's old, there's an important bug fix in 2.10.4 |
| 03:20.26 | mparodi_ | u.u |
| 03:20.50 | roboman2444 | Could always compile yourself |
| 03:21.07 | mparodi_ | sure, but then I can't upgrade it automatically |
| 03:21.28 | roboman2444 | Do that until it gets to .4 |
| 03:21.35 | mparodi_ | yep, I'll have to |
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| 03:31.07 | flaggy | mparodi_: open the bug on debian BTS, if it isn't open yet. I'd compile pidgin new version using the current packaging, see if that works. Fix anything that breaks. Then report it back to the maintainer. It can make his life easier and, on the very least, if you name your version 2.10.4~0-1 then, when the maintainer releases 2.10.4 or greater your system will be updated properly. |
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| 03:49.00 | nsadmin | Hi... so fdisk is forcing me to start the first partition on sector 61 (dos mode which is deprecated). How can I defeat that? I need 30 more sectors |
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| 03:50.48 | LtL | nsadmin: maybe parted will play nice |
| 03:51.00 | nsadmin | I'll check it out |
| 03:51.35 | nsadmin | nondos mode is even worse, it would start the first partition at sector 2048 |
| 03:51.40 | gunouille | made a good 4k alignment |
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| 03:52.20 | gunouille | don't forget to verify your partition table |
| 03:53.14 | nsadmin | my partition table started like this: dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb |
| 03:53.26 | nsadmin | not much to verify :) |
| 03:53.42 | gunouille | fdisk can verify it for you |
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| 03:55.27 | gunouille | you will come back here, when the data access fails randomly |
| 03:57.09 | nsadmin | come back??! I never leave!! |
| 03:57.59 | nsadmin | got it... the thing is you're bringing up something that's tangential to what I actually want |
| 03:58.24 | nsadmin | so, do you understand what it is I want? |
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| 04:00.27 | gunouille | your partition cleanup is not enough for grub2 |
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| 04:04.15 | trysten | ok i finnaly got BRCMSMAC to compile into the linux kernel |
| 04:04.41 | nsadmin | understood... that[s perfectly OK |
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| 04:07.32 | k-man | for some reason i think emails from cron are going missing |
| 04:07.54 | k-man | is there some mechanism for controlling what happens to the cron output in debian? |
| 04:08.20 | nsadmin | gunouille, and, having said ALL THAT, thanks for the tip. it does not go unappreciated. |
| 04:09.07 | gunouille | don't you say i am a troll? |
| 04:09.57 | nsadmin | well, you did try to refocus my attention... but, it looked like you were trying to point me at something important |
| 04:12.15 | nsadmin | I just want to get my little sony voice recorder going after trying to use it as a netinstall container (which didn't work at all) |
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| 04:16.20 | nsadmin | gunouille, tho, this: "don't you say i am a troll?" dpes bring up a question... |
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| 04:28.17 | hoverbear | So, very confused.... I had gnome 3 installed and working fine in normal composited mode.... Then rebooted and it's in fallback, but still detecting my gpu, and half a gig of updates, even though I installed like, 7 hours ago... I think I did pinning wrong. >.> |
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| 04:29.30 | hanibana | Hi. A user connects to my SMTP server (from a victim SMTP server?) and sets Mail-From address as <> and the From header (within the message) to one of my mail users. What's the most effective way to prevent such fake from addresses? I'm using Postfix/Amavis/SpamAssassin/ClamAV. |
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| 04:30.14 | nsadmin | hanibana, use ssl and authentication? |
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| 04:33.19 | nsadmin | hanibana, also, you might check to see if you're an open relay and figure out how to not be one |
| 04:33.51 | hanibana | nsadmin: why SSL? you mean SASL? I'm not open-relay. |
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| 04:34.39 | nsadmin | well whatever would allow both a known and encrypted protocol and (separately?) authentication |
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| 04:35.55 | hanibana | nsadmin, when some mail servers like gmail talks to my SMTP server and has mail for one of my user, it should not be forced to SMTP Authentication. |
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| 04:37.13 | fLoo | sup |
| 04:38.00 | jair | I have a questions guys, the default shell graphical environment for debian squeeze is gnome right, by default all icons are arranged to the left side of the screen is there a way I can align them all on the right side? without have to do it manually of course. |
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| 04:39.50 | dondelelcaro | hanibana: if you don't want to allow null envelope senders, do sender address verification or similar. |
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| 04:41.31 | LtL | jair: Gnome is default, 2) possibly /usr/bin/gconf-editor |
| 04:42.03 | hanibana | dondelelcaro: no. I want to allow it. |
| 04:42.32 | dondelelcaro | hanibana: so... I'm not sure I understand the point then |
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| 04:43.56 | nsadmin | what's a common *dm I could use for both xfce (which I built just to look at it) and kde (which I currently run), so I can use, what, the session menu to specify which, and where xfce (it's far from the standard place) |
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| 04:44.50 | ex-parrot | hi all... trying to tweak a package generated by checkinstall but I'm getting "Size mismatch" now when I try and install it. I generated the Installed-Size line in control from "du -sb"/1024 of the unpacked data.tgz file but apparently this isn't right? |
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| 04:46.05 | hanibana | dondelelcaro: I do allow null envelope senders. The question is: how and where can I detect/prevent an inbound message with `From' header set to one of my users? let me know I you need more explanation ... |
| 04:46.08 | dondelelcaro | use dpkg-deb to build Debian packages. Building them by hand is an exercise in pain |
| 04:46.26 | ex-parrot | dondelelcaro: you are correct :P |
| 04:46.42 | dondelelcaro | hanibana: why wouldn't you allow such an inbound message? |
| 04:46.45 | nsadmin | and this exercise in pain is presented to potential new maintainers |
| 04:47.02 | dondelelcaro | we don't ask new maintainers to replicate dpkg-deb -b |
| 04:47.19 | dondelelcaro | we *do* ask them to replicate dpkg-deb -x, but that's easy |
| 04:47.35 | nsadmin | build a package with no tools |
| 04:47.51 | ex-parrot | I would usually use dpkg-deb or one of its wrappers, but I (naiively) thought I might just be able to tweak this checkinstall output for a really basic two-file make install job... |
| 04:48.04 | dondelelcaro | without using dh, yes, but not without using dpkg-deb |
| 04:48.21 | ex-parrot | it works fine except that I must be calculating the Installed-Size line in a way that isn't right |
| 04:48.48 | ex-parrot | ah, scratch that. I made a typo. derp. |
| 04:49.11 | nvz | jair: has to be done manually.. many people have filed wishlist bugs for tblr icon alignment and it was never implemented in nautilus |
| 04:49.21 | hanibana | dondelelcaro: nice question :) |
| 04:49.53 | mpthompson | Anyone around that knows much about the A1000? I'm attempting to bring up the Ubuntu image on it. |
| 04:50.14 | mpthompson | Sorry, wrong IRC. I'll go away. |
| 04:51.05 | gunouille | blocks a1000 links |
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| 04:53.07 | jair | nvz: thank you for getting back to me :) |
| 04:53.17 | jair | LtL: I see will check that |
| 04:53.39 | nsadmin | nvz, can you do somthing with positioning by using a shell script which alters config files in order to affect the alignment? |
| 04:54.50 | hanibana | dondelelcaro: now I think I need the submission port and the port 25 for inbound mail. I should force SMTP-Auth at submission port. In other side, on 25 port, I should not allow inbound mail with envelope-sender or From header set to one of my domains? |
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| 04:58.58 | hanibana | thanks guys for your help. |
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| 05:03.13 | nvz | nsadmin: yeah by calling gconf-tool |
| 05:05.21 | nsadmin | cool... and xfce, does that use gconf? |
| 05:06.10 | nvz | nsadmin: we were not talking about xfce were talking about nautilus.. which keeps icon info in /apps/nautilus/desktop-metadata/ |
| 05:07.04 | nvz | so if you read in that info and take in to account data from say xdpyinfo to determine screen size, you could in theory write a script using gconftool-2 to align icons any way you like "automatically |
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| 05:08.48 | nvz | though there is also the fact that the open desktop standard defines a format which I believe is xml for .desktop files themselves |
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