| 00:00.03 | ksuhku | make an ext partition labeled casper-rw? |
| 00:00.15 | ksuhku | in addition to whatever is there |
| 00:00.59 | floogy | hm,I trz it with a casper-rw file *formatted ext4 on a ext4 partition( instead... |
| 00:01.29 | nsadmin | floogy, just wanted to let you know to remember how the problem was found... initially, I nad no idea what the problem was |
| 00:03.02 | nsadmin | then we commented stuff out until the problem disappeared, and then uncommented stuff (important:) one at a time to rule out additional problems |
| 00:03.24 | nsadmin | then made sure the security line was uncommented, and at that point he was good |
| 00:04.17 | floogy | nsadmin, so it was the gr or the us server? |
| 00:04.36 | nsadmin | it was not his gr mirror |
| 00:04.43 | floogy | ksuhku: boot.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006315/ |
| 00:05.14 | floogy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.43 | nsadmin | it was the deb-src line, which should have pointed at security... here's his final sourcxs.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007352/ |
| 00:06.13 | nsadmin | notice how line 8 and 9 have elements in common |
| 00:06.41 | ksuhku | floogy, looks like a missing partition to me |
| 00:07.00 | ksuhku | try an ext partition labeled casper-rw |
| 00:07.15 | floogy | Hm, but everything is there |
| 00:07.40 | ksuhku | on the partition labeled casper-rw? |
| 00:08.11 | nsadmin | themill claims that line never could have worked, a fact that was not relevent to the solution... the tests revealed that line was the problem so we simply commented it out |
| 00:08.14 | floogy | $ ls -lh /media/f49b4004-f11c-40d5-bd6f-60847140f4fa/*rw* |
| 00:08.15 | floogy | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.0G May 25 14:17 /media/f49b4004-f11c-40d5-bd6f-60847140f4fa/casper-rw.ext4 |
| 00:08.15 | floogy | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.0G May 25 14:17 /media/f49b4004-f11c-40d5-bd6f-60847140f4fa/home-rw.ext4 |
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| 00:08.48 | floogy | formerly without .ext4 |
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| 00:12.07 | floogy | ksuhku: No the partition isn't labled casper-rw, but the file.... |
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| 00:15.40 | floogy | ksuhku: Itshould work with files too... Diddn't find a way to lable the partition with fdisk |
| 00:15.54 | floogy | maybe tune2fs? |
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| 00:17.02 | floogy | sudo tune2fs -L casper-rw /dev/sdd2 |
| 00:17.57 | floogy | I'll reboot to see if that might work, but I'm still curious why the file approach won't work |
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| 00:29.54 | alex- | The debian installation hangs at: Disabling netinst CD in sources.list (33%) |
| 00:30.21 | alex- | http://1.nl.eu.org/i/FmL.png |
| 00:32.55 | hippocras | alex- interesting |
| 00:33.14 | alex- | ikr |
| 00:33.54 | hippocras | alex-: 6.0.5? |
| 00:34.17 | alex- | I have no idea |
| 00:34.47 | hippocras | alex-: which version of debian are you installing? |
| 00:35.04 | alex- | I dont know |
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| 00:35.20 | lcc | will the next release of debian support uefi? |
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| 00:36.25 | engla | with grub-efi-amd64, efi boot is supported in wheezy to a degree. how it will be made available to users, no idea |
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| 00:40.51 | floogy | Does this indicate that it works now? /cow on / type overlayfs (rw) |
| 00:41.08 | floogy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:42.21 | floogy | Hm, I'm still curious why that doesn't work with casper-rw and home-rw files, as mentioned in the docs |
| 00:42.44 | ksuhku | !mint |
| 00:42.44 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 00:43.10 | floogy | will reboot, to see if the xchat history is persistent ;) |
| 00:43.41 | floogy | ksuhku: yes, but it's casper-rw related and that'sdeveloped by debian |
| 00:44.16 | ksuhku | 99% of mint is developed by debian |
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| 00:44.46 | floogy | I know |
| 00:45.16 | ksuhku | good luck and good night |
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| 00:46.23 | floogy | http://live.debian.net/manual/html/live-manual.en.html#521 |
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| 00:46.34 | floogy | ksuhku: good night |
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| 01:15.34 | mortal1 | has anyone set up whole disk encryption with a seperate /home parition? |
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| 01:17.55 | martianlobster | what is the package which contains the intel c++ compiler? apt-cache search isn't playing nice with me tonight |
| 01:21.28 | floogy | http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/c-compilers/ |
| 01:22.34 | floogy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:28.24 | martianlobster | floopy thanks |
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| 01:53.04 | trysten | so, say i want to keep a d from auto-starting |
| 01:53.17 | trysten | the "right way" of doing this would be to remove the symlinks in /etc/rc* right? |
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| 01:54.45 | nevyn | trysten: no.... |
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| 01:57.59 | trysten | ok |
| 01:58.04 | trysten | hmmmm |
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| 02:06.11 | nevyn | man update-rc.d |
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| 02:10.13 | enyawix | will someone look over my sources.list? |
| 02:10.29 | enyawix | I know i am missing packages |
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| 02:11.20 | craigevil | pastebin your list |
| 02:13.52 | enyawix | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.56 | craigevil | only thing you dont have is backports |
| 02:15.05 | craigevil | what packages are you trying to find? |
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| 02:15.41 | craigevil | ah never mind you do have backports, but it is listed under the Mozilla repo |
| 02:15.43 | enyawix | craigevil: just a few games |
| 02:16.09 | craigevil | try searching packages.debian.org |
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| 02:17.54 | enyawix | tremulous is listed on packages.debian.org I must have something wrong |
| 02:18.18 | gluesniffmonkey | Is there a way to start the win32-loader in non-graphical mode? http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
| 02:18.41 | gluesniffmonkey | I am installing on a machine with no working cd drive |
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| 02:19.41 | craigevil | enyawix, apt-cache show tremulous |
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| 02:20.20 | nevyn | gluesniffmonkey: is it new enough to boot off usb? |
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| 02:21.17 | enyawix | craigevil: it is listed |
| 02:21.29 | gluesniffmonkey | nevyn no. I can get to boot using the w32loader. But that goes into graphical mode. I then have no mouse |
| 02:22.31 | craigevil | enyawix, if it is listed you should be able to install it, apt-get install tremulous or aptitude install tremulous |
| 02:24.17 | enyawix | yes i may have found a bug in synaptic |
| 02:24.37 | enyawix | thanks for the help you guys are great |
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| 02:45.09 | flock-_ | Hello. I would like to hide my machine IP address /thats normally on header/ on emails sent by my machibe |
| 02:45.44 | Sm0ke0ut | that's not possible |
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| 02:53.23 | craigevil | use an anonymous remailer |
| 02:54.13 | nevyn | the bigger quesiton is why do you want to hide your IP ? |
| 02:54.22 | nevyn | but then why do I care. |
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| 03:06.44 | flock-_ | craigevil, any suggestion on anonymous remailer? |
| 03:06.47 | flock-_ | client. |
| 03:08.43 | craigevil | nope, Google it |
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| 03:57.55 | mortal1 | hey guys, I'm running an install, I'm currently at the 'partition disks' section. I have: /boot, LVM VG [root] [home], I've selected both of the volumes for use as encrypted volumes, but the partitioner is telling me I have to have a partition selected as / |
| 03:58.35 | mortal1 | I'd like to have / and /home both be encrypted, unlocked by one password, etc |
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| 04:01.03 | mmnicola1 | Yes, the installer requires / |
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| 04:01.41 | mmnicola1 | however, I fail to see the link between that and your wish to use encryption |
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| 04:15.36 | sideup66 | hello room |
| 04:15.54 | sideup66 | im back, still playing with this graphics problem but I made headway and have new questions :) |
| 04:16.39 | sideup66 | I finally got the display to show right after loading the nvidia-nonfree drivers, somehow that coupled by some x11 nvidia component identifies the monitor correctly and gets rid of the miniscule screen issue |
| 04:17.06 | sideup66 | but I would simply like to know how to change the resolution and screen refresh rate of the greeter screen or gnome login |
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| 04:18.00 | sideup66 | if anyone can explain that....? |
| 04:18.47 | Rusty1 | sideup66: in the absence of any help here , there are #nvidia and #xorg channels |
| 04:19.23 | sideup66 | i know, but my issue no longer resides with nvidia and xorg at this point |
| 04:19.34 | sideup66 | i was able to patch somthing together that (amazingly) works |
| 04:20.08 | Rusty1 | wait here, ask there, up to you |
| 04:20.15 | sideup66 | hmm ok |
| 04:20.26 | sideup66 | last time i got pingponged all over so yeah |
| 04:20.32 | sideup66 | i guess ill stay here |
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| 04:23.01 | sideup66 | !greeter |
| 04:24.50 | sideup66 | !x11 |
| 04:24.50 | dpkg | [x11] a protocol used by X servers and clients. X11 stands for the eleventh version of the X window system. |
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| 04:31.47 | nevyn | notwithstanding the fact the protocol has morphed and evolved over the last 20 years so while the protocol is still X11 the messages are very different. |
| 04:31.58 | nevyn | x11 all about the extensions |
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| 04:34.11 | sideup66 | all about extensions? |
| 04:34.32 | sideup66 | anyone know how to change the logon screen's configuration |
| 04:34.59 | sideup66 | thats all I need to do, the shell itself can be manipulated through grub (It does work fine that way once the nvidia nightmare was fixed |
| 04:35.30 | sideup66 | or if a toool to do it exists |
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| 04:40.37 | gyaresu | I want to setup an sftp chroot using built-in openssh config. I also want to preserve file/folder permissions. Anyone have a decent link for an approach that they take? |
| 04:42.45 | gyaresu | I've basically got this setup http://serverfault.com/questions/6895/whats-the-best-way-of-handling-permissions-for-apache2s-user-www-data-in-var and want to give a developer sftp access to /var/www |
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| 04:54.27 | gyaresu | Or everyone is sleeping... |
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| 05:17.41 | DimmuR | hello everyone, i have debian wheezy/sid and it updated my php5 version to 5.4.0 i need there version 5.3.3 and found all packages except of php5-fpm which is most needed is there any place where i could find it? |
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| 05:17.56 | DimmuR | I found all packages for 5.3.3 version except this one |
| 05:18.34 | gyaresu | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.49 | DimmuR | :| |
| 05:19.43 | gyaresu | So do you need php 5.4 ? |
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| 05:21.05 | gyaresu | DimmuR: Or do you want to roll it back to 5.3.3 ? |
| 05:22.01 | DimmuR | gyaresu, yes i want to roll it back to 5.3.3 but php5-fpm isn't available, but i found http://packages.dotdeb.org/dists/squeeze/php5/binary-i386/ this so i'm going to test it |
| 05:23.09 | gyaresu | DimmuR: I'm on my phone right now or id research with you. You know how to do apt pinning? |
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| 05:24.09 | DimmuR | gyaresu, used it once or two but apt-cache show php5-fpm | grep Version doesn't show any available version other than 5.4 |
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| 05:25.46 | gyaresu | Ok. Cool. Good luck package building :) |
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| 05:26.29 | DimmuR | gyaresu, this site i gave - sound's like packages installed fine |
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| 05:27.06 | gyaresu | DimmuR: I'm just looking on server fault. Have you tried there? |
| 05:27.23 | DimmuR | server fault? :> |
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| 05:27.49 | DimmuR | ah no i didn't search there |
| 05:28.21 | gyaresu | DimmuR: http://serverfault.com/questions/346787/couldnt-find-package-php5-fpm |
| 05:28.28 | DimmuR | just reading it :) |
| 05:28.32 | DimmuR | but it's about ubuntu |
| 05:28.53 | DimmuR | i'll try this source i found to fix it :) |
| 05:29.06 | gyaresu | DimmuR: Mighty phone searching skills! Yeah but someone might have a repo that's compatible. |
| 05:29.22 | DimmuR | i have only one app on server that requires regiser globals but it's so old that i don't even know if company that wrot it still exist |
| 05:30.06 | gyaresu | Can you replace it? Register global a is way old and bad and etc |
| 05:30.24 | gyaresu | ^ typo |
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| 05:31.23 | DimmuR | i know it's old and bad but it's not my software so it would long time to find out all places it's used in |
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| 05:33.03 | gyaresu | Yeah, you got legacy problems. I know it depends on who you're doing this for and why. Its hard to put your foot down and say "this is obsolete and must be replaced" |
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| 05:35.53 | gyaresu | Wow, there's not a lot of love for the fpm module. |
| 05:36.18 | Mtl_Harmony | Hi. My 32 cores / 6 SAS RAID10 Debian 6.0 is so strange... I've VPS on it. Yesterday they were a lot of "sendmail".. -> High I/O usage. Destroyed server XD I restarted. Sendmails+VPS=Load 20. Killed all sendmails=Load 1,6 with VPS. And I started a "tar" => Load 70 ! And the tar was at 00H. I still have a load average 70 with only 15% CPU and 1% wa..... RAM 28G/128G |
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| 05:37.53 | jagginess | Mtl_Harmony, you talk like bill gates |
| 05:38.07 | Mtl_Harmony | =x |
| 05:38.15 | cedr | hm; what should I grab for a small 'router' running debian? |
| 05:38.23 | cedr | is there any rec'd small boxes w/ 2 nics? |
| 05:38.28 | Mtl_Harmony | Sorry |
| 05:38.42 | gyaresu | Mtl_Harmony: That's interesting. Is there a question in there? :) |
| 05:39.00 | hippocras | I have this script I'm writing, and after I run some if-then-else statements that change the value of the variables, they return to the previous values they had. Is this by design? How do I get around it? |
| 05:39.01 | Mtl_Harmony | Why my load average is so High ? =O And cannot go down |
| 05:39.10 | gyaresu | cedr: How big a network? |
| 05:39.34 | Mtl_Harmony | Before the tar, the load was 1-2.. While taring 70 (wtf?) and 6h after : 70 |
| 05:39.37 | Mtl_Harmony | wwwwwtttffff xD |
| 05:39.59 | cedr | gyaresu: very small, home network; max 100Mbps down (possibly 250Mbps soon, would like to keep room to upgrade) |
| 05:40.04 | Mtl_Harmony | I launched a consistency check on the RAID10 |
| 05:40.10 | gyaresu | cedr: You can run a router on a 386 with no hard drive and two normal nics if you want |
| 05:40.22 | cedr | nods |
| 05:40.30 | cedr | small form factor is key here |
| 05:40.36 | cedr | since it's a small sq foot home |
| 05:40.48 | gyaresu | cedr: Do you want it to be a file server etc? |
| 05:40.54 | cedr | nope, just route |
| 05:41.12 | cedr | i have a ring of vpn servers I'd like to hook in to the box |
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| 05:41.24 | gyaresu | cedr: The best option is a linksys wrt54g running firmware like tomato. |
| 05:41.45 | cedr | I don't need wifi |
| 05:41.52 | sideup66 | hey room |
| 05:42.06 | cedr | just the ability to connect to 2-3 openvpn servers and set up subnets around that |
| 05:42.12 | gyaresu | VPN servers? |
| 05:42.17 | gyaresu | Ah k |
| 05:42.35 | cedr | yeah, i have some for 'surfing' and one is a backend network for my servers |
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| 05:43.09 | gyaresu | Then seriously. Just an old box with maybe a new psu and hdd |
| 05:43.10 | sideup66 | does anyone know if its possible to set screen resolution for your welcome screen via placing a shell script into your init.d folder? |
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| 05:43.26 | cedr | starting from scratch sadly |
| 05:43.34 | cedr | all my old equipment was tossed in the move :/ |
| 05:43.40 | jagginess | gyaresu, you can get a 25 dollar raspberry and make it into a tv set |
| 05:44.08 | gyaresu | cedr: no local paper etc to take junk box? |
| 05:44.16 | sideup66 | cedr why are you building a router with an old comp tower? why not just as said buy a used wrt54 and load firmware like dd wrt or the like? |
| 05:44.45 | sideup66 | they can be had used pretty cheaply |
| 05:44.46 | cedr | sideup66: dd-wrt didn't play nicely with my VPN last time I tried, does it support openvpn? |
| 05:44.57 | cedr | (I tried with pptp before, but the new network is using openvpn) |
| 05:45.07 | sideup66 | hmm not sure, could be a firewall issue, try disabling that |
| 05:45.08 | sideup66 | ? |
| 05:45.15 | cedr | plus i'd like to have differently routed local ips |
| 05:45.27 | cedr | oh, i don't have any at my disposal now, it was a year or so ago |
| 05:45.41 | cedr | moved toa new city and took the essentials |
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| 05:45.55 | gyaresu | cedr: You can do that with Linux networking as well |
| 05:46.11 | Mtl_Harmony | Any idea about my prob ? Load 70 with a simple tar cf and still have 70 6H after |
| 05:46.20 | cedr | nods; I'd have to research more for a different platform; I've only used debian really |
| 05:47.00 | sideup66 | anyone know how to simply configure the screen resolution on the debian login screen |
| 05:47.42 | sideup66 | stupid thing wants some crazy high resolution for unknown reason and to top it off the refresh is too high, im workin with an older crt that is nice and happy at 60 hz |
| 05:47.49 | sideup66 | this thing wants 75 by default |
| 05:47.52 | gyaresu | cedr: Ask your Neighbour if they have an old computer to sell. Win win. Meet neighbours and they clear that junk p3 out of the cupboard :) |
| 05:47.58 | cedr | :) |
| 05:49.01 | sideup66 | cedr: what are you trying to do? |
| 05:49.04 | gyaresu | sideup66: I don't even know if it's xorg.conf anymore |
| 05:49.15 | sideup66 | gyaresu: nah no xorg.conf |
| 05:49.21 | sideup66 | its debian squeeze |
| 05:49.50 | sideup66 | and thats precisly what im doing, old gateway with an amd athalon running at 1 ghz here, building a home server out of it :) |
| 05:49.53 | gyaresu | Mmm. But you know what xorg.conf is right? |
| 05:49.54 | sideup66 | media and file right now |
| 05:49.56 | DimmuR | gyaresu, sounds like this version from link i gave is missing few configs, otherwise its working |
| 05:50.22 | sideup66 | just for some reason linux freaks out because of the nvidia card in there o) |
| 05:50.25 | sideup66 | o0 |
| 05:50.53 | sideup66 | anyway yes i do know what an xorg.conf is, ive searched for it in /etc/x11 and its mia |
| 05:50.57 | gyaresu | DimmuR: I didn't like the amount of errors regarding spawning procs on server fault |
| 05:51.23 | gyaresu | sideup66: Nvidia drivers? |
| 05:51.55 | cedr | sideup66: I have ~4 openvpn servers in various locations: 1 is for 'US' services, such as Spotify; 2 are for 'general use'; and 1 is for servers. I'd ideally like to be able to manipulate routing depending on what IP I'm connected to (including providing access to the 'server' backend network) and also provide a way to skip the 'browse' server rotation and route directly out |
| 05:52.07 | DimmuR | gyaresu, i'm going to finish configuring this server and warn client about migrating all php based apps to work on register_globals off |
| 05:52.09 | cedr | s/connected/connecting/ |
| 05:52.10 | sideup66 | gyaresu: yes, I had a fiasco with xorg making the screen REALLY tiny, and switching over to the propietary nvidia drivers cleared that up |
| 05:52.12 | gyaresu | hates autocorrect for tech channels from iPhone |
| 05:52.20 | DimmuR | thanks for tips gyaresu now it's working |
| 05:52.38 | sideup66 | so i have a normal screen, the resolutions are just off at this point |
| 05:52.57 | gyaresu | DimmuR: Send them here if they argue. Stay strong! Fight the globals! ;) |
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| 05:53.39 | DimmuR | gyaresu, i can't argue it's to 'strong' client :P |
| 05:53.41 | cedr | (the general vpns also pick and choose outgoing IPs depending on some factors but that's not really related to the home network) |
| 05:53.41 | sideup66 | cedr: i see, good luck |
| 05:53.44 | gyaresu | sideup66: Remind me. What are the Nvidia commands? nv-something |
| 05:53.58 | sideup66 | hang on... lemme check.... |
| 05:54.02 | DimmuR | gyaresu, it's inland revenue :S |
| 05:54.11 | gyaresu | Omfg |
| 05:54.14 | cedr | sideup66: thanks! it'll be a bit time consuming but hopefully worth it |
| 05:54.20 | cedr | i just need to grab a box now :) |
| 05:55.03 | gyaresu | DimmuR: Well good luck to their 10 year old software. Tell the forward facing URL. I promise not to break it. |
| 05:55.04 | sideup66 | gyaresu: i has no nvidia commands :( |
| 05:55.15 | sideup66 | typed nv and was bashed |
| 05:55.21 | cedr | i had an old IBM P4 serving my old network (before I moved, wasn't as advanced - just a DHCP/DNS setup) but that died a few weeks before I left |
| 05:55.33 | cedr | (and it was too big really to pack with me) |
| 05:56.41 | sideup66 | found it, installing now from synaptics... |
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| 05:57.58 | gyaresu | sideup66: What package? |
| 05:58.14 | sideup66 | nvidia-settings |
| 05:58.14 | gyaresu | Nvidia tools or something right? |
| 05:58.34 | gyaresu | Ah there you go. It's been a while :) |
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| 06:00.01 | sideup66 | gyaresu: new problem |
| 06:00.12 | gyaresu | That won't ever change :) |
| 06:00.15 | sideup66 | when i open the tool it says i do not appear to be using the nvidia x driver |
| 06:00.26 | gyaresu | Well that's a good start |
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| 06:00.54 | sideup66 | please edit x configureation file and gives me a command (just run nvidia-xconfig as root), then restart the x server but that command bashes me as not found |
| 06:01.02 | gyaresu | sideup66: I'm on my phone so I may be useless but lets logic this out |
| 06:01.13 | sideup66 | gyaresu: its ok |
| 06:02.09 | gyaresu | If you sudu blah tab completed it won't show you the prog. You can just type it out fully or sudo su - |
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| 06:03.20 | Lymia | Hi, um. I've found a ".password" file in my home directory containing my plain text password. I did not make it. |
| 06:03.35 | Lymia | Is it known what program does this?? |
| 06:03.45 | sideup66 | gyaresu: nah it complains doing that |
| 06:03.53 | gyaresu | Lymia: Nothing should do that |
| 06:04.33 | gyaresu | Lymia: Have you used that same password for other services or scripts other than to login? |
| 06:04.47 | sideup66 | wait... gyaresu: i made a dumb mistake -_- i didnt install the stupid package |
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| 06:04.52 | sideup66 | that would help it work....right :p |
| 06:05.07 | gyaresu | slaps sideup66 with a large haddock |
| 06:05.27 | sideup66 | :p |
| 06:05.35 | Lymia | gyaresu: Only a few. |
| 06:05.38 | sideup66 | a book? no idea what that is |
| 06:05.47 | Lymia | Nothing important. |
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| 06:06.44 | sideup66 | i had the nv driver from xorg installed too because for whatever reason that would identify my monitor where the nvidia driver wont -_- |
| 06:06.59 | gyaresu | Lymia: Well something non-standard (and really badly written) has screwed up or you've just done a typo and outputed it accidentally |
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| 06:07.26 | gyaresu | sideup66: You're taking me back to some dark places in my life |
| 06:07.56 | sideup66 | gyaresu: -_- im guessing im not in a good place right now? :( |
| 06:08.04 | gyaresu | sideup66: http://xkcd.com/963/ |
| 06:08.19 | gyaresu | You my friend are entering the twilight zone |
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| 06:09.06 | gyaresu | sideup66: Just the one monitor? |
| 06:09.32 | sideup66 | oh my....i forgot that comic.... :/ whenever I played with the xorg.conf my graphical interface just hung up and decided not to load anymore...and woah |
| 06:09.47 | sideup66 | ok i made one and actually booted, in a very low resolution mind you but booted... |
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| 06:09.52 | sideup66 | i may have finally gotten somewhere |
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| 06:10.21 | gyaresu | You can set the (can't believe I remember this shit) edid's manually to get Nvidia to love you. (if that's still how it's done) |
| 06:10.22 | Lymia | gyaresu: A typo resulting in a ~/.password file? |
| 06:10.36 | Lymia | I'm thinking this either some kind of rootkit or something seriously strange. |
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| 06:10.54 | sideup66 | gyaresu: what happened that screwed these drivers up so bad recently, i always remembered em just working which is when life is going well... |
| 06:11.09 | sideup66 | ooo i got nvidia config pages :D |
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| 06:11.50 | gyaresu | Lymia: Yeah, forgot a command line switch or a badly typod pipe? Dunno. Rootkithunter? |
| 06:12.06 | Lymia | Ran that before, found nothing too suspicious |
| 06:12.07 | sideup66 | gyaresu: nothing in there to change resolutions, though now im running crazy low |
| 06:12.57 | sideup66 | 640x480 now |
| 06:13.02 | sideup66 | wow ok this thing is weird |
| 06:13.08 | gyaresu | sideup66: Done a search for your exact model monitor and xorg.conf? Usually someone's battles this before |
| 06:13.23 | sideup66 | hmm nope, good point |
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| 06:14.11 | gyaresu | sideup66: I think you'll find an edid for that monitor that you manually put in xorg.conf. I dis a lot of this shit with 3 monitors |
| 06:14.50 | gyaresu | Lymia: take off and nuke from orbit? |
| 06:15.51 | gyaresu | Seriously iPhones need a goddam autocorrect-tech option |
| 06:16.33 | Lymia | Last time I checked with rkhunter, I found little of too much interest. |
| 06:16.49 | Lymia | Possible rootkit strings got me a "hdparm"... in "hdparm" itself... |
| 06:17.03 | Lymia | (i.e. the strings check) |
| 06:17.27 | Lymia | I got something on "loaded kernel modules", but, I'm on a boot disk right now... |
| 06:17.30 | Lymia | If there's really something here... |
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| 06:18.19 | sideup66 | i think after working on this thing there is a reason their trying to deprecate xorg.conf... |
| 06:18.27 | gyaresu | Lymia: Production box? |
| 06:18.42 | Lymia | Personal machine. |
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| 06:18.50 | Lymia | Nothing /that/ serious. |
| 06:20.17 | gyaresu | Lydia I'd just wonder how I got that drunk. It's not your SSL keychain pass phrase linked from /etc/apache2/ssh is it :D |
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| 06:22.18 | gyaresu | sideup66: You rocking the /etc/init.d/xorg-server restart yet? You should also have about 5 different versions of xorg.conf.bak |
| 06:22.32 | gyaresu | Muhahahahahahahaha |
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| 06:23.06 | sideup66 | i found a clean one someone pulled from gutsy (ubuntu i know but it has the configs, and for poops n giggles im gonna put the nv driver back and see what happens with the other nvidia stuff there mwahahaha |
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| 06:23.44 | gyaresu | sideup66: I used to find it easier to ssh into the box and do it from a laptop next to the machine so as not have epileptic fits |
| 06:24.25 | sideup66 | garesu: good luck with that :p next is to tackle the shell though with the nvidia goodnness running its easily manageable from crub |
| 06:24.53 | gyaresu | sideup66: As an upside. Once you figure out what you're doing you can do x11 forwarding |
| 06:25.05 | sideup66 | hmm could not find a suitable recognition of screens, thats what xorg is crying about |
| 06:25.09 | sideup66 | and nope nv did nothing |
| 06:25.46 | sideup66 | also to note my machine didnt have xorg.conf originally |
| 06:25.51 | sideup66 | it just detected at boot time |
| 06:26.00 | sideup66 | which i assume 9x10 is fine |
| 06:26.28 | gyaresu | Edid |
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| 06:26.42 | sideup66 | im working from my laptop |
| 06:26.59 | gyaresu | Somethng something device identifier |
| 06:27.01 | sideup66 | edid is part of xorg.conf right? -_- just to clear up a noob question |
| 06:27.07 | gyaresu | Yup. |
| 06:27.12 | sideup66 | okies |
| 06:27.17 | sideup66 | then i think i know where that is :D |
| 06:27.39 | gyaresu | So you use the Nvidia driver but the settings still go in xorg.conf |
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| 06:28.02 | sideup66 | im thinking to do a lame, lock of the stupid thing im going to comment all other resolutions but the one i want *evil grin* |
| 06:28.02 | gyaresu | Thats why I was saying to do a search for the exact model |
| 06:28.12 | gyaresu | Nah |
| 06:28.26 | gyaresu | That way madness lies |
| 06:28.33 | sideup66 | http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/something-is-afoot.jpg |
| 06:28.56 | gyaresu | In essence you just want a default xorg.conf and maybe three extra lines |
| 06:28.58 | sideup66 | the gutsy one seems to not id monitors |
| 06:29.04 | sideup66 | just monitor 0 |
| 06:29.16 | gyaresu | sideup66: Yeah that's common. |
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| 06:29.47 | sideup66 | so i was going to swap them and just see where it leads, if that works, tweak for what I need and it may just be happy that way |
| 06:29.48 | gyaresu | There are ways but I cant remember atm. Not easy |
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| 06:31.09 | gyaresu | sideup66: Honestly you may be lucky but I recommend you find someone's conf online for the same model. Once you have the edid you will be sorted |
| 06:31.21 | avernos | i cant access USB with vbox. do i need to give it access by adding something to /etc/fstab? |
| 06:31.31 | avernos | none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=something,devmode=664 0 0 |
| 06:32.29 | sideup66 | hmm ok |
| 06:32.54 | sideup66 | wait nevermind the guy made the old ubuntu bug report with an ev910, which is what i have |
| 06:33.20 | peterrooney | Is there any video card that ISN'T completely broken for xorg? |
| 06:34.11 | gyaresu | avernos: Debian running under virtual box or the other way around? Not that I have any experience with either |
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| 06:34.46 | gyaresu | peterrooney: Yeah lots. This case is the monitor |
| 06:34.56 | rozie | peterrooney: I'd say most cards runs fine. I had problem only with one card and had to specify PCI |
| 06:35.34 | sideup66 | gyaresu: the guy had similar problems to me and fixed his by essentially restorin g the backup from his older distro and it made x11 happy again |
| 06:35.59 | gyaresu | sideup66: Does he post his config? |
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| 06:36.29 | gyaresu | sideup66: It's honestly just the one file that need the right params |
| 06:37.29 | sideup66 | i switched em, rebooting, fingers crossed... |
| 06:37.30 | gyaresu | What's your exact model of monitor. I'll practice my iPhone search skills |
| 06:37.59 | gyaresu | sideup66: See my post about restarting the service. You don't need to reboot |
| 06:38.06 | peterrooney | I'm just saying every video card I put in my machine beyond the level of, say, an ATI Rage or nVidia GeForce MX requires both research and tweaking of xorg.conf, and doesn't really perform any noticeably better. |
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| 06:38.55 | gyaresu | peterrooney: See previously linked xkcd comic. I have the scars. |
| 06:38.56 | sideup66 | gyaresu: oh ok, well i have a normal resolution again :) |
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| 06:39.42 | gyaresu | sideup66: Back to nv driver yeah? |
| 06:40.15 | sideup66 | its running on nv, i can pull it out if i want :D but it still has the proprietary nvidia one in there, it keeps the resolution sane |
| 06:40.30 | gyaresu | :/ |
| 06:40.51 | gyaresu | You're using one or the other. Not both. |
| 06:41.11 | gyaresu | Btw what's the equivalent of compiz these days? |
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| 06:41.33 | sideup66 | oh...then im totally not sure, quick way to check? |
| 06:41.43 | gyaresu | You know, accelerated pretty 3d desktop CPU wasting goofiness |
| 06:41.52 | sideup66 | but in the nvidia xserver setting window it ids the monitor properly now |
| 06:42.11 | sideup66 | :) |
| 06:42.13 | gyaresu | There's a command x-something that outputs current x11 params |
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| 06:42.24 | gyaresu | sideup66: Boom! |
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| 06:43.37 | gyaresu | sideup66: You can run glxgears to quickly see if you have hardware acceleration |
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| 06:44.00 | sideup66 | i have spinny gear thingies! |
| 06:44.11 | gyaresu | Should get 1000 fps or something. If it runs like crap === no accel |
| 06:44.25 | sideup66 | 811 fps, mind you the system is old.... |
| 06:44.31 | sideup66 | but the gears look smooth |
| 06:44.40 | gyaresu | Sounds hardware to me |
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| 06:44.53 | gyaresu | Id say that might be Nvidia drivers |
| 06:45.27 | sideup66 | i think it is... |
| 06:45.30 | gyaresu | You got the screen res and framer ate you want? |
| 06:45.37 | sideup66 | i can do one thing to find out... |
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| 06:47.20 | gyaresu | Glxinfo |
| 06:47.20 | sideup66 | im definitely going to need to tweak the shell, which i know how to do with gnome, thats a bit big, not terrible but 1024x768 wont hurt :) |
| 06:47.39 | gyaresu | Tweak the shell? |
| 06:48.14 | gyaresu | glxinfo | ack-grep stuff |
| 06:48.32 | gyaresu | Omg. I just remembered I used to do all this on Gentoo |
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| 06:49.33 | sideup66 | looks normal now :) if i can get the dpi on the welcome screen up though it would be awesome and yes, its the nvidia driver |
| 06:49.36 | cedr | .w 24 |
| 06:49.39 | cedr | oops |
| 06:49.56 | gyaresu | sideup66: Congrats! |
| 06:49.56 | sideup66 | this is the whole reason why i went with debian for my home server build, you can cheat with ubuntu-ey stuff :p |
| 06:50.21 | sideup66 | it zooms in for some reason on welcome, no idea why and cant zoom out which is weird but eh... |
| 06:50.35 | gyaresu | sideup66: Um. Welcome screen was boot splash from memory. I remember customizing the login images |
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| 06:50.53 | sideup66 | yeah the welcome splash |
| 06:50.57 | sideup66 | it always zooms in now... |
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| 06:51.37 | gyaresu | That can be setup with the kernel but there's probably a package for it now. Have a search |
| 06:51.43 | sideup66 | im getting there.... |
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| 06:53.17 | gyaresu | bootsplash |
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| 06:53.35 | gyaresu | I think it was one word. I'll have a look around |
| 06:54.13 | sideup66 | gyaresu: thanks for the help though :) im getting there |
| 06:54.26 | amphorion | plymouth??? or something |
| 06:54.44 | sideup66 | and all this monkeying around is helping my linux experience, im mainly a windows guy, i can wrangle that quite well but linux is a different breed of animal |
| 06:54.48 | gyaresu | sideup66: Just paying it forward. How do you think I got the knowledge :) |
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| 06:55.25 | gyaresu | sideup66: So much fun to be had |
| 06:55.39 | sideup66 | gyaresu: its fun when its all up and running! it doesnt break :p |
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| 06:56.30 | sideup66 | gyaresu: i used to run winxp on an older box and that thing needed babysitting about once a month, uncle was an old time admin and loved his linux boxes, big mac head really, he told me how those boxes would run 1 or 2 years at a time w/o even rebooting |
| 06:56.39 | sideup66 | he would run the shell :p |
| 06:56.42 | gyaresu | Breaking just means trying new things the wrong way. You can run a stable Linux box till the end of time :) |
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| 06:58.56 | gyaresu | I replaced an old 386 with a similarly old 386 by cloning the drive for a company that had used it nonstop for ten years as an inventory machine. Redhat 2. Something from memory |
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| 06:59.19 | sideup66 | very nice |
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| 06:59.45 | sideup66 | yeah he worked for verizon, really knows his stuff, taught me alot as a kid, im in college now and laugh at my roommate who doesnt play with this |
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| 07:00.18 | sideup66 | i just say yeah...til they throw a box in front of you and tell you to do somthing with it or you revamp the place with tux boxes, save the company a boatload of cash, and those machines run forever |
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| 07:01.58 | sideup66 | anywho |
| 07:02.13 | sideup66 | im wondering why the display always zooms in on welcome though :/ |
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| 07:04.54 | sideup66 | at the same time im thinking leave well enough alone... |
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| 07:10.36 | Tux | sideup66, you pung me XD |
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| 07:17.22 | xex | heh ompaul: |
| 07:17.29 | gyaresu | Right. Well that was rudely interupted. |
| 07:18.58 | xex | from finding out, the hard drive problem im having was an issue on Ubunutu back in 2008, something about the sata_nv driver. there is a patch for it, but i would assume it was added by now |
| 07:19.27 | ompaul | xex: as I said yesterday, try the firmware cd and try a live cd |
| 07:19.40 | xex | i dont have the inst... wait a minute |
| 07:19.42 | ompaul | xex: also if that was the case then perhaps there is firmware |
| 07:19.43 | xex | i might hang on |
| 07:20.53 | xex | yea, i dont have it, i remember having a CD with it when i bought it, guess i threw it away |
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| 07:22.56 | xex | basicly ompaul: from what i can gather https://lkml.org/lkml/2008/8/20/51 , cept mines the LT |
| 07:23.01 | xex | 680i LT |
| 07:23.19 | xex | but yea, ill hunt down some firmware and try again |
| 07:23.49 | ompaul | !tell xex about firmware |
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| 07:23.59 | gyaresu | It's funny how you go away for 5 min and there's a whole new conversation going on :) |
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| 07:24.56 | xex | lol |
| 07:25.42 | xex | this was going on about 8am est in here, but the original guy i was talking to isn't here |
| 07:26.39 | pikaro | hi! i'd like to access /dev/dsp from my Android device. Alas, my sound card is broken, so the device is not created. is there any way to access what _would have been_ sound if the card was working correctly? |
| 07:26.41 | gyaresu | Since there's more people awake now though... Question: I have /var/www/ setup like this http://serverfault.com/questions/6895/whats-the-best-way-of-handling-permissions-for-apache2s-user-www-data-in-var and I want to add SFTP for a developer to /var/www/. I'm assuming the best way is through the built in chroot commands in the openssh-server config? Anyone done this? |
| 07:27.02 | xex | jail |
| 07:27.52 | ompaul | gyaresu: why create a solution that changes the way the box works? |
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| 07:28.35 | gyaresu | ompaul: So two users via ssh can change files under the same group as www-data |
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| 07:28.57 | ompaul | gyaresu: sftp to a home directory, backup /var/www then rsync the contents into place - however |
| 07:29.18 | ompaul | gyaresu: you could add them to www-data |
| 07:29.54 | gyaresu | ompaul: Yeah, I can see a few ways of doing this. I was hoping someone had done it. I'll just have to read more docs. |
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| 07:30.18 | gyaresu | ompaul: there's a few catches from what I see is all. |
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| 07:30.40 | ompaul | gyaresu: the ideal version is they have access to a dev box, then they say commit - you do something like I described |
| 07:32.08 | sideup66 | dumb question folks....how does one increase the resolution in the shell in debian squeeze |
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| 07:34.13 | gyaresu | sideup66: high. |
| 07:34.16 | _KaszpiR_ | sideup66 yawn, first google shot http://geekomatic.ch/2011/03/01/1298966700000.html |
| 07:34.27 | sideup66 | hello again gyaresu, i thought you had left for the night |
| 07:34.44 | gyaresu | sideup66: phone battery |
| 07:35.13 | gyaresu | sideup66: and it's 13:05 here in India :p |
| 07:35.13 | peterrooney | sideup66: it's not a dumb question. It used to be extremely straightforward, but grub is deprecating the vga=XYZ option, and I've lost weeks trying to figure out what the new procedure is. |
| 07:35.19 | sideup66 | yeah i hate to be nitpicky, the login looks fine, it zooms in all the time for whatever reason but eh, its readable now so ill leave well enough alone but now my shell is huuuge |
| 07:35.33 | sideup66 | oh sheesh, 3:30 am here :blush |
| 07:35.41 | peterrooney | sideup66: by shell, do you mean virtual console? |
| 07:35.45 | gyaresu | sideup66: peterrooney bootsplash not the go any more? |
| 07:35.54 | sideup66 | not ginourmous unusable, its fine usability wise |
| 07:36.17 | sideup66 | its just a wee bit big haha, and by shell i mean say going to a tty prompt |
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| 07:37.22 | _KaszpiR_ | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=52934 |
| 07:37.31 | _KaszpiR_ | bye |
| 07:37.48 | sideup66 | and of course in pre boot |
| 07:38.08 | sideup66 | i just set the size in grub but it only affects grub, i went to /etc/grub.cfg i think the file was |
| 07:38.45 | sideup66 | i know it sounds silly |
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| 07:39.34 | peterrooney | _KaszpiR_: that page is genuinely not useful. |
| 07:39.38 | gyaresu | sideup66: Did you do a 'grub install --blah' or however it's done now to update the bootloader (grub)? |
| 07:39.48 | sideup66 | yup i did :D |
| 07:39.55 | sideup66 | annnnd it still is big haha |
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| 07:40.11 | _KaszpiR_ | peterrooney well, tried google, too tired |
| 07:40.14 | gyaresu | sideup66: Cool. Ok so it's definitely a grub thing then |
| 07:40.29 | xex | so uh ompaul: Seagate website has an upgrade listed for my model, lovely... |
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| 07:40.41 | gyaresu | rocks _KaszpiR_ gently to sleep. |
| 07:40.48 | sideup66 | it looks fine on the grub splash, then jumps back haha, im thinking now, there is a command to configure somthin |
| 07:40.52 | sideup66 | in the shell |
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| 07:41.03 | Artel | I just ran "apt-get install openjdk-6-jre" and a bunch of errors came up |
| 07:41.14 | Artel | now I want to remove and undo everything I just did. how do I do that? |
| 07:41.26 | peterrooney | _KaszpiR_: fair enough. It's not obvious, and the grub people clearly don't want to write a tutorial on it. I suppose they just magically expect everyone to read the source code or something. |
| 07:41.39 | _KaszpiR_ | haha |
| 07:41.46 | gyaresu | sideup66Fine in the splash and jumps back when? Is X getting loaded or are you getting dumped to a fullscreen black tty with flashy prompt? |
| 07:41.49 | _KaszpiR_ | that meant they don't want to write the docs |
| 07:42.01 | valdyn | Artel: simply fix the "bunch of errors" and undo what you did |
| 07:42.23 | gyaresu | Artel: It doesn't help you but 'sudo aptitude install blah -s' first. The -s is simulate. |
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| 07:42.44 | gyaresu | Artel: can you scroll back? Do you have etckeeper installed? |
| 07:42.50 | peterrooney | _KaszpiR_: the second best piece of programming advice I got at college was, "Write the documentation first, then make the code do that." |
| 07:42.52 | valdyn | Artel: ( did you seriously expect a useful answer with question that is almost completely void of any information ? ) |
| 07:43.21 | _KaszpiR_ | peterrooney and what was the first one? |
| 07:43.22 | Artel | I was hoping someone would understand but I'll give more information |
| 07:43.23 | Artel | http://pastebin.com/VeLCEqpM |
| 07:43.26 | gyaresu | valdyn: "I screwed up, how do I fix it?" is not a bad starting point. |
| 07:43.37 | sideup66 | think i forgot to do somthing in grub |
| 07:43.43 | sideup66 | ok im being a ditz :blush |
| 07:43.43 | Artel | okay wait I copied the wrong part of it. that has no useful information |
| 07:43.45 | gyaresu | sideup66: >< |
| 07:43.51 | peterrooney | _KaszpiR_: when you want to write a program, step away from the computer and grab a pencil and a pad of paper. |
| 07:44.11 | _KaszpiR_ | ah |
| 07:44.25 | gyaresu | sideup66: 3am is always the best time to work on linux. I hope you're in underpants and not writing down any of what you're doing. |
| 07:44.39 | ompaul | Artel: apt-get install foo you have no foo |
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| 07:44.43 | peterrooney | _KaszpiR_: don't come back until you know the first code you will type in, AND the first test you shall make of it. |
| 07:44.52 | ompaul | Artel: and that applies to all of those commands |
| 07:44.57 | gyaresu | Fucking India from the pastebin link "Access to this site has been blocked as per Court Orders" |
| 07:44.57 | _KaszpiR_ | so true |
| 07:44.59 | gyaresu | Same with vimeo |
| 07:45.09 | sideup66 | im definitely not writing down lol and no underware lol |
| 07:45.20 | peterrooney | OVERSHARING |
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| 07:45.27 | gyaresu | Artel: could you use paste2.org or something else please. pastebin is blocked here. |
| 07:45.29 | valdyn | Artel: your java is complaining about not enough heap, how much ram do you have? |
| 07:45.36 | Artel | 128mb |
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| 07:45.40 | ompaul | use http://paste.debian.net |
| 07:45.45 | valdyn | Artel: thats not enough |
| 07:45.48 | Artel | should I just give up on java? |
| 07:45.49 | sideup66 | im gonna get it for sleeping in tomorrow, im getting the mole label, idk if you saw this comic which describes a linux users life quite well: http://theoatmeal.com/blog/fix_computer |
| 07:46.00 | sideup66 | gyaresu: http://theoatmeal.com/blog/fix_computer |
| 07:46.02 | ompaul | Artel: you should have read what I said about foo |
| 07:46.14 | peterrooney | !pastebin.com |
| 07:46.14 | dpkg | pastebin.com takes forever to load, makes us enter a captcha to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 07:46.15 | Artel | ompaul: install everything that it said I was missing? |
| 07:46.29 | Artel | Is that what you meant? |
| 07:46.31 | valdyn | Artel: you should give up on the "standard" vms. There may be vms that use less ram. |
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| 07:47.05 | ompaul | Artel: no, apt-get install packagenamegoeshere you didn't have a packagename in the pastebin I saw |
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| 07:47.24 | gyaresu | sideup66: I'm supporting the compile your own kernel. You need to do that next. |
| 07:47.30 | ompaul | Artel: much like humans, computers don't do telepathy :) |
| 07:47.33 | sideup66 | lol |
| 07:47.40 | valdyn | ompaul: youre right, but thats not fixing his actual issue |
| 07:47.45 | sideup66 | i havent built a server closet either haha |
| 07:47.48 | gyaresu | sideup66: Build a Gentoo box and then move to linux from scratch ;) |
| 07:48.01 | vyadhaka1 | I am trying to use X11 forwarding via SSH, I can connect to the debian server fine from win7 PC, have Cygwin X server installed on the win7 pc, set the DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 on win7, but when I execute xterm in ssh console, it says the display is not set. Where am I going wrong |
| 07:48.07 | sideup66 | gyaresu: after this x11 trip im afraid to :o |
| 07:48.20 | sideup66 | and its sun's fault somehow, cheap sellouts to oracle... |
| 07:48.34 | ompaul | valdyn: if they ain't including package names their not getting anywhere, now do they know what package names they want - next question |
| 07:48.34 | gyaresu | sideup66: What else would I have to do on a sunny day otherwise? I'm living vicariously through your learning. |
| 07:49.04 | valdyn | ompaul: i think he just wanted to show us that his java fails |
| 07:49.12 | ompaul | valdyn: ah |
| 07:49.18 | gyaresu | There's a lot of tension here tonight. |
| 07:49.24 | gyaresu | gives hugs all round. |
| 07:49.29 | sideup66 | lol |
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| 07:50.02 | gyaresu | sideup66: omg, whiring fans. I used all my bluetack on the blue lights. |
| 07:50.18 | valdyn | whats the debian-packaged java vm that uses the least amount of memory? |
| 07:50.38 | ompaul | no clue |
| 07:50.43 | gyaresu | I know nothing about java. sorry |
| 07:51.11 | ompaul | valdyn: java is notorious for being a bad memory manager |
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| 07:51.54 | sideup66 | ompau1: you had to hear my asian programming teacher uptalk it |
| 07:51.56 | Artel | Do you guys think 128mb is enough for mysql? |
| 07:52.10 | valdyn | Artel: sure |
| 07:52.10 | sideup66 | i thought our first couple days of class were a java ad... |
| 07:52.18 | sideup66 | i added the thingie |
| 07:52.20 | Artel | Is there a mysql alternative that is more lightweight? |
| 07:52.21 | sideup66 | lets see what happens |
| 07:52.35 | gyaresu | Artel: no freaking way |
| 07:52.40 | sideup66 | and that works! |
| 07:52.42 | sideup66 | woot |
| 07:52.43 | sideup66 | :) |
| 07:52.44 | valdyn | Artel: question is if it can do mysql with the actual database you want it to handle well enough |
| 07:52.45 | gyaresu | Artel: if you mean with Apache |
| 07:52.58 | sideup66 | i knew i forgot somthin stupid in the one thingie *doh* |
| 07:53.02 | Artel | with lighttpd actually |
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| 07:53.50 | gyaresu | Artel: as a command line and a small amount of data. probably. But most web servers run multiple threads and mysql is usually first to explode |
| 07:54.28 | gyaresu | Artel: What are you a) trying to achieve? Can you find some more RAM? |
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| 07:54.53 | sideup66 | ok editing the payload setting in grub killed gnome :( |
| 07:54.54 | Artel | I don't think I can find more ram. And I'm not exactly trying to achieve anything, just want to set up a web server for fun |
| 07:54.58 | sideup66 | -_- i cant win can i? |
| 07:55.26 | gyaresu | Artel: Ok. It's just that 128 is really really small for a full LAMP stack. |
| 07:55.39 | sideup66 | ugh why is gnome unhappy :( |
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| 07:56.01 | gyaresu | Depending what you're programming in you might consider something else OR you can just use something like Jekyll to generate a static blog. |
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| 07:56.18 | gyaresu | You probably don't even need a db. |
| 07:56.47 | gyaresu | sideup66: Lost his little red hat? |
| 07:57.02 | sideup66 | yeah pretty much -_- |
| 07:57.23 | sideup66 | i think x11 is seeing grub force somthing then reading the xorg.conf and getting conflicting messages |
| 07:57.56 | ksuhku | little red billion-dollar-a-year hat |
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| 07:58.28 | gyaresu | sideup66: Next we'll hear all about how you can't get it working back to how it was working. Muhahahahahahahahah (Write shit down) |
| 07:58.58 | sideup66 | nah i think i know what i did, move the files around and itll fire up :p |
| 07:59.15 | sideup66 | also there are other ways to resize that shell than playing with grub i think |
| 08:00.10 | sideup66 | there is a reconfigure command that exists i just cant think of what its called (brainfart) |
| 08:00.43 | gyaresu | sideup66: dpkg-reconfigure xorg something something |
| 08:00.49 | sideup66 | yup, ui is back :p i was right |
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| 08:03.43 | Cultist | Hi everyone |
| 08:03.50 | sideup66 | i know its dpkg reconfigure somthin... |
| 08:04.01 | gyaresu | where is logwatch getting it's information from? There's no cron job and /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf is empty |
| 08:04.04 | gyaresu | wtf? |
| 08:04.34 | gyaresu | Cultist: Hi |
| 08:04.46 | Cultist | About to move to Debian from Slackware, at least temporarily, had a few questions I wanted to ask before I make the change though |
| 08:05.24 | gyaresu | sideup66: If you do reconfigure then you'll just break it again. All that does is re-write your xorg.conf (unless something has changed) |
| 08:05.36 | Cultist | First, I was going to go with -testing. Does this branch receive regular security updates and such in the same way that stable does? |
| 08:05.48 | gyaresu | !xorg |
| 08:05.49 | dpkg | X.Org X11 is the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2 and first included in Debian <Etch>. The release packaged for Squeeze is X11R7.5. To install, ask me about <install x>. To configure, ask me about <xorg config>. To remove, ask about <remove x>. Backports for Squeeze are available, ask about <bdo xorg>. http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQ #xorg on irc.freenode.net. |
| 08:05.56 | sideup66 | nono it doesnt reconfigure xorg.conf, it only affects the shell i remember it let me pick font, size, etc |
| 08:06.20 | peterrooney | sideup66: console-kit, IIRC |
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| 08:06.42 | gyaresu | Is the debian wiki the go-to place for info? http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg |
| 08:07.11 | peterrooney | sideup66: close. console-setup |
| 08:07.11 | gyaresu | Show's how long since I've done desktop Debian stuff. |
| 08:07.54 | sideup66 | perrooney: thanks! i knew it was somthing |
| 08:07.55 | gyaresu | Cultist: yes. Testing is awesome. More importantly though. What are you running the machine as? |
| 08:08.12 | peterrooney | Debian docs are rather out of date. The official Installation Guide still talks about hda, hdb, etc. |
| 08:08.27 | sideup66 | gyaresu: when im working on somthing my mind does a decent job of thinking backwards :p |
| 08:08.29 | Cultist | personal laptop. Wine games and dozens of various applications |
| 08:08.47 | sideup66 | gyaresu: so usually i go a couple of steps, back up, check, go forward...etc |
| 08:08.47 | gyaresu | Cultist: testing is the way to go then. |
| 08:09.30 | Cultist | Is python3 easy enough to install through aptitude? |
| 08:10.11 | gyaresu | Cultist: all packaged up and ready to go |
| 08:10.54 | sideup66 | thanks peter still big though...might just have to deal with it... |
| 08:11.31 | Cultist | is multilib capability easily managed? I use a few applications that require 32-bit libraries, while I use amd64 |
| 08:12.37 | sideup66 | i think im going to just take good with the bad for now |
| 08:12.44 | sideup66 | and turn in, its super late |
| 08:12.59 | sideup66 | thanks for the help guys |
| 08:13.19 | gyaresu | Cultist: dunno. I've never had any issues with 32/64bit |
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| 08:15.21 | Cultist | awesome |
| 08:15.25 | Cultist | ty gyaresu |
| 08:15.40 | gyaresu | np |
| 08:15.59 | valdyn | judd: versions python3 |
| 08:16.00 | judd | Package: python3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; sid: 3.2.3~rc1-2; wheezy: 3.2.3~rc1-2 |
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| 08:16.41 | Lartza | Can I install sid or wheezy packages in squeeze? |
| 08:16.49 | gyaresu | is wheezy the new unstable? Great name. |
| 08:16.57 | valdyn | !sid |
| 08:16.58 | dpkg | The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 08:17.09 | Cultist | oh one more, is the nvidia proprietary driver in the non-free repo or somewhere else easily accessible through aptitude? |
| 08:17.12 | gyaresu | !wheezy |
| 08:17.13 | dpkg | The release after squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie), and will be Debian 7.0. Ask me about <testing>. #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
| 08:17.30 | gyaresu | ah, ok. |
| 08:17.30 | Cultist | in Slackware you just download the binary installer from nvidia and execute it, I don't think you can do that in debian |
| 08:17.41 | valdyn | Cultist: slackware has no package management |
| 08:17.42 | gyaresu | Cultist: yeah you can. |
| 08:17.56 | valdyn | Cultist: so its ok to do that in slackware, its not in debian |
| 08:18.00 | Cultist | valdyn, yes it does, it just doesn't resolve dependencies |
| 08:18.02 | Lartza | Gosh when was 6.0 released? |
| 08:18.19 | valdyn | Cultist: slackware is just tarballs, thats not package management |
| 08:18.35 | gyaresu | dependency hell. oh redhat, how i don't miss those days |
| 08:19.16 | gyaresu | is not sure slagging on Slackware will bring Cultist into our friendly community :) |
| 08:19.36 | Cultist | package management just means managing packages. |
| 08:19.47 | Lartza | How do I package polarssl or install it from sid/wheezy or get from another repo? |
| 08:19.49 | Cultist | its package manager doesn't manage them for you, but rather provides you the means of managing them yourself. |
| 08:19.55 | Lartza | The one in squeeze is from 2009... |
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| 08:20.00 | valdyn | Cultist: exactly |
| 08:20.14 | gyaresu | Lartza: You can do apt pinning |
| 08:20.24 | Lartza | gyaresu, ? |
| 08:20.27 | Cultist | Which brings me to another question |
| 08:20.50 | valdyn | Cultist: lets just say nvidias installer should not be used. |
| 08:20.52 | gyaresu | Lartza: Getting only a certain package from a more recent release without updating everthing |
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| 08:21.58 | ratatata | nu |
| 08:21.58 | Lartza | gyaresu, Yeah but well, in Ubuntu that was something you were told not to do really :P |
| 08:21.58 | gyaresu | http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
| 08:21.58 | valdyn | Lartza: its not really different in debian |
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| 08:22.01 | valdyn | Lartza: but on *both* distros you can do a backport or use a backport |
| 08:22.04 | gyaresu | Lartza: I don't know the package you're after or why you need it. So it depends on your requirements. |
| 08:22.13 | Lartza | libpolarssl-dev |
| 08:22.19 | Lartza | It's ancient in squueze, from 2009 |
| 08:22.30 | valdyn | judd: versions libpolarssl-dev |
| 08:22.31 | judd | Package: libpolarssl-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 0.12.1-1; sid: 1.1.3-1; wheezy: 1.1.3-1 |
| 08:22.39 | valdyn | !tell Lartza -about ssb |
| 08:22.56 | gyaresu | !tell gyaresu -about ssb |
| 08:23.12 | Lartza | I think I already checked backports hmm |
| 08:23.52 | Lartza | Yeah not there |
| 08:24.02 | valdyn | Lartza: we know, we asked judd |
| 08:24.18 | Lartza | It lists backports too? Didn't know |
| 08:24.23 | valdyn | Lartza: yes |
| 08:24.25 | Lartza | :) |
| 08:24.31 | hell_razer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:25.38 | valdyn | hell_razer: that rule alone allows something that is allowed by default already |
| 08:25.55 | valdyn | hell_razer: so it does nothing on a default config |
| 08:25.58 | Artel | I'm getting 550: permission denied whenever I try to transfer a file via ftp. I'm running proftpd on my server |
| 08:26.30 | Artel | I'm trying to transfer the file to the /var/www directory. what's the best way of doing this? |
| 08:26.39 | hell_razer | valdyn: i have by default -P INPUT DROP |
| 08:26.51 | valdyn | hell_razer: good idea to show your whole config |
| 08:26.53 | gyaresu | Artel: heh. You probably don't have permission to write to /var/www |
| 08:27.03 | Artel | yeah. how do I give my user permission to write there? |
| 08:27.15 | Lartza | It fails on the apt-get -b |
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| 08:27.21 | Cultist | chmod -r 777 dirname |
| 08:27.21 | gyaresu | Artel: Well that's an interesting question. |
| 08:27.31 | hell_razer | valdyn: http://paste.enzotools.org/show/2402/ |
| 08:27.34 | Artel | chown? |
| 08:27.37 | Cultist | replacing 777 with whatever you need specifically |
| 08:27.42 | gyaresu | Cultist: No! |
| 08:27.43 | gyaresu | omg |
| 08:27.46 | Lartza | http://pastebin.ca/2154204 |
| 08:27.51 | hell_razer | valdyn: i want to limit vpn to host and only some ports |
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| 08:28.32 | Artel | Yay! Thanks guys |
| 08:28.46 | valdyn | hell_razer: nice paste, but i cant be expected to check every line |
| 08:28.47 | gyaresu | Artel: Cultist /var/www is www-data:www-data right? so you can set permissions and add your user to the www-data group but you also need to change your default umask to 0200 |
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| 08:29.22 | valdyn | hell_razer: do you *somewhat* understand what youre doing? |
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| 08:29.39 | valdyn | hell_razer: i mean theres alot of nonsense in there |
| 08:30.08 | hell_razer | valdyn: yes, some checking control bits is ugly |
| 08:30.29 | Lartza | Alright works now :D |
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| 08:30.47 | valdyn | hell_razer: im not talking ugly, im talking nonsense |
| 08:31.11 | valdyn | hell_razer: anyway..."how to limit port across vpn" means what? |
| 08:32.11 | hell_razer | valdyn: users connecting to vpn, its uses 47 and 1723 ports , and all connection works accros these ports |
| 08:32.19 | valdyn | hell_razer: right |
| 08:32.45 | hell_razer | valdyn: without forwardind, users can sell only 10.0.0.0/8 |
| 08:32.55 | hell_razer | valdyn: at all ports |
| 08:33.15 | hell_razer | valdyn: i want to permit acces to some port in vpn |
| 08:33.33 | hell_razer | *can see |
| 08:33.35 | valdyn | hell_razer: you mean you want to *restric* ports inside the vpn? |
| 08:33.44 | valdyn | hell_razer: you mean you want to *restrict* ports inside the vpn? |
| 08:33.51 | hell_razer | valdyn: yap |
| 08:33.56 | valdyn | hell_razer: thats not possible |
| 08:34.04 | hell_razer | o_O |
| 08:34.09 | valdyn | hell_razer: not from *outside* the vpn |
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| 08:34.35 | valdyn | hell_razer: you would have to decode the supposedly uncrackable vpn first |
| 08:35.16 | Cultist | dvd-1 is the only dvd required for installation of debian, right? |
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| 08:35.45 | valdyn | hell_razer: remember, its a vpn, its encrypted, you cannot monitor the contents and you cannot monitor the port being used |
| 08:37.10 | hell_razer | valdyn: -A INPUT -p tcp -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d 10.0.0.1 --dport 5901 -j DROP ? something like these ... |
| 08:37.49 | valdyn | hell_razer: is there a language barrier? |
| 08:37.52 | gyaresu | logcheck /etc/logcheck/violations.ignore.d/fooserver So it seems I need to create a specific filter to not trigger the "System Events" that give me an email every hour or so with just network access attepts. Does that sound right? |
| 08:38.46 | valdyn | hell_razer: that would be a proper rule for some case yes, I probably dont understand your actual setup and intention |
| 08:38.49 | hell_razer | valdyn: ok, i understand, that all in vpn network is out of control |
| 08:39.23 | gyaresu | hell_razer: maybe a paste of your network topology would help? |
| 08:39.29 | valdyn | hell_razer: consider using a firewall framework that makes complex firewalls managable |
| 08:39.42 | Woet | Cultist: CD 1 / DVD 1 are enough for the installation + most popular packages, the other CDs/DVDs are for all the other packages |
| 08:39.42 | valdyn | hell_razer: your rule collection makes this very hard |
| 08:39.58 | gyaresu | valdyn: I like firehol. You got a preference? |
| 08:40.16 | valdyn | gyaresu: I use shorewall, i dont know firehol |
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| 08:41.24 | gyaresu | So. No logcheck/logwatch love in the house? |
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| 08:54.49 | twanny796 | I set /etc/timezone to my time zone but still I get the wrong time, I have ntp installed?? |
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| 09:02.06 | CuteAlien | Hi! Got some minor annoyance with a video-plugin and was wondering if someone has a hint to improve this. Some website obviously optimized for WindowsMediaPlayer, I can still play the movies on Debian, but I can't pause (it will then re-start the video after a few seconds) or select starting the movie from any other time. |
| 09:02.36 | CuteAlien | Page is this one: http://timms.uni-tuebingen.de/Browser/Browser01.aspx?path=%2fUniversit%A4t+TCbingen%2fMathematisch-Naturwissenschaftliche+Fakult%A4t%2fPhysik%2fVorlesung+EinfChrung+in+die+Astronomie+I+WiSe+2008-2009%2f (sorry, german - just lick on time and see how it always starts at 0) |
| 09:02.50 | CuteAlien | Maybe someone got a hint. |
| 09:03.39 | valdyn | CuteAlien: the link is broken |
| 09:03.47 | CuteAlien | hm |
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| 09:05.36 | valdyn | CuteAlien: I see "TCbingen", thats how how umlauts are encoded |
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| 09:06.12 | CuteAlien | ah |
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| 09:08.59 | CuteAlien | Hm, and link doesn't change after selecting exact video, maybe part of the problem. |
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| 09:10.33 | valdyn | CuteAlien: you can select various playback formats |
| 09:10.49 | CuteAlien | yes, still haven't found one where it works perfectly. |
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| 09:11.06 | valdyn | CuteAlien: realplayer |
| 09:11.23 | CuteAlien | hm, failed getting that installed. |
| 09:11.39 | CuteAlien | How did you get realplayer running? |
| 09:11.39 | gyaresu | http://serverfault.com/questions/392878/how-should-i-setup-email-log-notifications-on-debian-server |
| 09:12.17 | valdyn | CuteAlien: im not trying to |
| 09:12.51 | valdyn | CuteAlien: i can download the .aspx file, read the rtsp url inside and play that with mplayer |
| 09:13.38 | valdyn | CuteAlien: thats done like that: select standalone and the blue 320 thing for realplayer, then "Anzeigen", Save the file read it, cut url, play url with mplayer |
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| 09:14.04 | CuteAlien | ah ok. |
| 09:16.18 | CuteAlien | ok, seems standalone allows me pausing and continuing :) |
| 09:16.27 | valdyn | CuteAlien: i can do about the same with the wmv for better quality |
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| 09:16.56 | valdyn | CuteAlien: for example: mplayer "mms://u-003-stimms03.uni-tuebingen.de/UT_2008/10/15/UT_20081015_001_astro1_0001.wmv500.wmv" |
| 09:17.36 | CuteAlien | yes, I got it mostly working with standalone that way. Still doesn't allow clicking a topic and starting from there, but pausing works this way without restarting video after a few seconds. |
| 09:17.47 | CuteAlien | But better than before, thanks. |
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| 09:20.25 | zykotick9 | I'm getting a BADSIG error for backports http://paste.debian.net/171224/ - searching online suggested installing "debian-backports-keyring", yet this packages doesn't seem to exist on my system? |
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| 09:20.53 | valdyn | zykotick9: so why dont you install it? |
| 09:21.13 | zykotick9 | valdyn: i'd love to - but it's not present? |
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| 09:21.27 | valdyn | judd: vesrions debian-backports-keyring |
| 09:21.34 | valdyn | judd: versions debian-backports-keyring |
| 09:21.35 | judd | Package: debian-backports-keyring on i386 -- lenny-backports: 2009.02.20 |
| 09:21.42 | valdyn | judd: versions deb-backports-keyring |
| 09:21.44 | judd | No package named 'deb-backports-keyring' was found in i386. |
| 09:21.54 | valdyn | zykotick9: ok that was outdated advice you found |
| 09:22.40 | zykotick9 | i did install the debian-keyring package, but that didn't change the error |
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| 09:23.40 | Cultist | Does the Debian installer support luks partition encryption? graphically that is, not just through cryptsetup? |
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| 09:30.03 | gyaresu | Here's an inflamatory question. Why is loggin via logwatch SO TOTALLY SHIT? The freaking documentation is ridiculous and I seem to need to know a lot of Perl. |
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| 09:31.23 | linkedinyou | hello guys |
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| 09:32.18 | _br_ | gyaresu: Try some other tool? How about e.g. logstash ? |
| 09:32.36 | gyaresu | _br_: Ok. Have you used it? |
| 09:32.38 | linkedinyou | can you please assist me i did rented a debian dedicated server self managed that i did find it is even no mysql no apache no php |
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| 09:32.52 | linkedinyou | i want to install all that and the webmin |
| 09:33.00 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Sure, I do paid remote support. |
| 09:33.08 | linkedinyou | can you please assist me thanks in advance |
| 09:34.09 | gyaresu_pay_me | There we go. |
| 09:34.14 | Dimeetrees | ahahaha |
| 09:34.18 | linkedinyou | hahaah |
| 09:34.19 | Dimeetrees | tall order$ |
| 09:34.30 | Cultist | Do you accept bits of string |
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| 09:34.40 | Dimeetrees | bicoins? |
| 09:34.42 | _br_ | gyaresu_pay_me: sure |
| 09:34.47 | zykotick9 | !tell linkedinyou about webmin |
| 09:34.52 | Dimeetrees | *bitcoins? |
| 09:34.53 | gyaresu_pay_me | linkedinyou: Seriously though we can help you learn if you want to help yourself. Otherwise, I really do actually work remotely on Debian servers for money :) |
| 09:35.19 | gyaresu_pay_me | _br_: :) Sorry, was that in regard to logstash? |
| 09:35.30 | _br_ | gyaresu_pay_me: jep |
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| 09:35.45 | DragonSlay | what is meant by 12.4% contiguous in fsck output. |
| 09:35.45 | linkedinyou | yes gyaresu i would pay if i do not manage after someone assist me |
| 09:35.47 | Cultist | stupid character limits >.< |
| 09:35.59 | gyaresu_pay_me | linkedinyou: don't worry about webmin. Just get the basics down and you'll be happier for it. |
| 09:36.23 | gyaresu_pay_me | _br_ jep? Are you Norwegian? |
| 09:36.27 | linkedinyou | how can i install the mysql server please |
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| 09:36.50 | _br_ | gyaresu_pay_me: nah |
| 09:36.52 | gyaresu_pay_me | linkedinyou: There's some very good tutorials we can link to. Have you any Linux experience before? |
| 09:37.27 | linkedinyou | i do have 4 servers centos but never debian |
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| 09:37.36 | linkedinyou | centOS |
| 09:37.40 | valdyn | DragonSlay: its a measurement of file fragmentation |
| 09:37.42 | gyaresu_pay_me | linkedinyou: And more importantly. What are you trying to achieve? blog? development environment? business website? etc. |
| 09:37.43 | linkedinyou | yes i do have some |
| 09:37.53 | _br_ | gyaresu_pay_me: I like logstash because you can sanitize the log stuff to a format you want and output e.g. amqp |
| 09:38.07 | DragonSlay | valdyn: should i be worried about 12.4%? |
| 09:38.17 | valdyn | DragonSlay: keep your disk fill state below 95%, thats all |
| 09:38.20 | valdyn | DragonSlay: no |
| 09:38.22 | gyaresu_pay_me | _br_: Cool. I will look at it. Cheers. |
| 09:38.42 | linkedinyou | it is an open source and i want to install the typo3 for my project it is not for profit |
| 09:39.03 | gyaresu_pay_me | linkedinyou: What's typo3? |
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| 09:39.07 | gyaresu_pay_me | linkedinyou: Got a link? |
| 09:39.08 | valdyn | DragonSlay: the number has no absolute meaning, its going to be different for different average filesizes |
| 09:39.19 | linkedinyou | it is a cms interface |
| 09:39.32 | valdyn | DragonSlay: but even then you dont need to worry about fragmentation |
| 09:39.37 | linkedinyou | i am trying to work on it and install it on my site |
| 09:39.46 | linkedinyou | yes |
| 09:39.58 | gyaresu_pay_me | linkedinyou: Ok. So you want apache & mysql? You've been given a self managed vps and you haven't done anything to it yet? |
| 09:40.03 | linkedinyou | http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_quickstart/1.0.0/view/1/2/ |
| 09:40.10 | Trewas | DragonSlay: there is filefrag in e2fsprogs package which tells in how many fragments a single file is, not very useful for determining the state of a whole filesystem though |
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| 09:40.31 | gyaresu_pay_me | linkedinyou: If I go away it's just a dead laptop battery. I'll be back in 5. |
| 09:40.40 | linkedinyou | it is new yes not done anything to it |
| 09:40.56 | linkedinyou | ok i will wait for you gyaresu |
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| 09:41.28 | linkedinyou | zykotick9 : ping |
| 09:41.46 | Trewas | I have one partitiotion which has been used for bittorrent for several years and fragmentation there is horrendous, reading files never exceeds 10MB/s (a 7200rpm 1TB disk so not terribly slow per se) |
| 09:41.52 | linkedinyou | i do not pay for panels this why i use the webmin |
| 09:42.45 | gyaresu_pay_me | linkedinyou: you don't need webmin. Better to do it via command line. Trust me. |
| 09:42.46 | zykotick9 | linkedinyou: webmin is a bad idea, for the reasons stated in the factoid |
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| 09:43.17 | linkedinyou | sure i will ignore webmin |
| 09:43.27 | linkedinyou | thanks for the advices |
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| 09:43.53 | mithrop | hi |
| 09:43.59 | DragonSlay | thank you, valdyn,Trewas. i've one more thing to ask. One of my harddrive has lost some files of about 400-600GB. Possible cause could be improper shutdown due high power fluctuations in my area. is it possible to get those files back, are there any recovery softwares you are aware of? |
| 09:44.19 | linkedinyou | <zykotick9> |
| 09:44.28 | woshty | why does akonadi-server, which for some reason i need to have to run korganizer, open dirs like /mnt and subdirs and keeps them open so i cant umount? |
| 09:44.47 | linkedinyou | i do not know how to backup without webmin |
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| 09:45.36 | valdyn | woshty: its probably indexing files, you should probably blacklist directories you dont want it to index |
| 09:46.29 | woshty | valdyn: why would anyone make it default index all dirs it can read? esp. mnt? how do i configure it to be just off? |
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| 09:46.47 | valdyn | woshty: no idea, i dont use it |
| 09:46.59 | Trewas | DragonSlay: not really, undeleting files in ext3/4 is quite difficult |
| 09:47.00 | DragonSlay | thank you, valdyn,Trewas. i've one more thing to ask. One of my harddrive has lost some files of about 400-600GB. Possible cause could be improper shutdown due high power fluctuations in my area. is it possible to get those files back, are there any recovery softwares you are aware of? |
| 09:47.05 | woshty | valdyn: i dont want to use it either .. :P |
| 09:47.23 | valdyn | woshty: you need the other functionality of akonadi |
| 09:48.13 | woshty | valdyn: hmm |
| 09:49.35 | DragonSlay | Trewas: I'm actually have important photos in there. |
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| 09:50.33 | petemc | DragonSlay: is there a lost+found directory ? |
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| 09:50.50 | mithrop | I need some help to update my system. There is some dependencies with my fglrx drivers and I want to be sure to make the good choice. Somebody can help me ? How can I give all the informations you need to help me ? |
| 09:50.58 | valdyn | woshty: im just googling: akonadi uses nepomuk to index files, you can disable indexing in system settings |
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| 09:51.28 | Trewas | DragonSlay: there is recoverjpeg package which tries to find jpeg files in a disk image, it actually works fine if the files are in one piece (not fragmented) |
| 09:51.48 | engla | also magicrescue |
| 09:51.52 | valdyn | woshty: hmm, no, thats not nepomuk but strigi, same difference though |
| 09:52.08 | woshty | valdyn: thank you, will try that. i hoped to use it just to connect to a caldav server and to replace lightning |
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| 09:53.57 | gyaresu | alrighty then |
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| 09:55.47 | gyaresu | hears crickets |
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| 09:56.40 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : moments plaese |
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| 09:57.12 | cedr | :D |
| 09:57.33 | gyaresu | Hey. So first question. Do you have a non-root user yet? Did you create it with useradd or adduser? |
| 09:57.44 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: sorry ^ was for you |
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| 09:58.00 | linkedinyou | yes did |
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| 09:58.42 | linkedinyou | it dedicatedc server root self manAGED |
| 09:58.42 | gyaresu | cool. edited /etc/sudoers ? |
| 09:59.04 | linkedinyou | no will now |
| 09:59.12 | gyaresu | hang on, you said you created a non-root user? yeah? |
| 09:59.40 | linkedinyou | yeh and the group too |
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| 10:01.03 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: you should have used adduser which creates your home directy groups etc. |
| 10:01.13 | gyaresu | You shouldn't need to add or create any groups just yet |
| 10:01.19 | gyaresu | Then you want to add webtraining.com.au,69.163.229.122 ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQDJ9RoyOW438zzIt0JGKZ2aTD4rsapQDbT+avkZFb7dXEv+dMe50eAvpt9DtbKH9evhfcOeeGvJ8OgFbXrycmGl5mg2fgVO1v0LlW9SETcFj3Y4yFkKbcy0cIrWZfI4GXSFxKuTHIQXMTAagsLIw7wHtXPfAWNjiMzR3EYdQ9y9CpjrXYatooZ8pZ4277lK/0pSGjcr/V4MvptW/yhjxLp33b74BmMXc4YsDdlADm7mocoGE9LpOKQEfRBXWl5q84RbtrEtZX6Ggmeqm51KCO+OOWLaZSypAUfIfqsiXPvYgKWN7LJaejOK4wzku3qsicCLvRixePeUOr6eGJi3tZj5 |
| 10:01.30 | gyaresu | pft. not that |
| 10:01.37 | gyaresu | too many windows open |
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| 10:02.16 | linkedinyou | :) |
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| 10:02.28 | linkedinyou | i am reading it anyway :) |
| 10:03.00 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: then you'll want to add ALL=(ALL) ALL to sudoers |
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| 10:03.55 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Make sure youre writing down every command that you do. You'll be happy later. I use google docs. |
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| 10:04.17 | gyaresu | webtraining.com.au,69.163.229.122 ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQDJ9RoyOW438zzIt0JGKZ2aTD4rsapQDbT+avkZFb7dXEv+dMe50eAvpt9DtbKH9evhfcOeeGvJ8OgFbXrycmGl5mg2fgVO1v0LlW9SETcFj3Y4yFkKbcy0cIrWZfI4GXSFxKuTHIQXMTAagsLIw7wHtXPfAWNjiMzR3EYdQ9y9CpjrXYatooZ8pZ4277lK/0pSGjcr/V4MvptW/yhjxLp33b74BmMXc4YsDdlADm7mocoGE9LpOKQEfRBXWl5q84RbtrEtZX6Ggmeqm51KCO+OOWLaZSypAUfIfqsiXPvYgKWN7LJaejOK4wzku3qsicCLvRixePeUOr6eGJi3tZj5 |
| 10:04.22 | linkedinyou | yes i am writing down now |
| 10:04.22 | gyaresu | ffs |
| 10:04.55 | linkedinyou | i will write this command this decade promise you :) |
| 10:05.05 | gyaresu | then sudo aptitude install mysql-server mysql-client |
| 10:05.24 | gyaresu | pick a passphrase like "chicken thing stuff turkey" |
| 10:05.40 | gyaresu | sudo aptitude install apache2 |
| 10:05.54 | cedr | see maui john sniffle |
| 10:05.59 | gyaresu | sudo aptitude install php5 libapache2-mod-php5 |
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| 10:06.16 | gyaresu | cedr: duckduckgo has a great passphrase generator :) |
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| 10:07.01 | khem__ | how do I do if I want to re-download the default fie of any package, but not replace anything? |
| 10:07.07 | khem__ | I need a fresh copy of the Debian MySQL startup script |
| 10:07.31 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: note that this is my question but the answer is still the best way of dealing with /var/www permissons if you want more than one user editing files in the webserver directory http://serverfault.com/questions/6895/whats-the-best-way-of-handling-permissions-for-apache2s-user-www-data-in-var |
| 10:08.11 | linkedinyou | gyaresu :how do i add the webtraining.com.au,69.163.229.122 ssh-rs |
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| 10:08.40 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: no dude. that was an accidental paste :) |
| 10:08.59 | gyaresu | that's the public key for a server I was logging into. :) |
| 10:09.14 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: So luckily I'm not gonna get hacked :) |
| 10:09.24 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : i was disencrypting that |
| 10:09.33 | linkedinyou | :) |
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| 10:10.03 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: So now you want to add sudo aptitude install phpmyadmin |
| 10:10.18 | linkedinyou | ~# sudo aptitude install mysql-server mysql-client |
| 10:10.19 | linkedinyou | -bash: sudo: command not found |
| 10:10.32 | linkedinyou | anything i type it is command not found |
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| 10:10.48 | linkedinyou | yes installing the phpmyadmin |
| 10:10.57 | cedr | nice |
| 10:10.58 | gyaresu | go back to root and install the package sudo |
| 10:11.01 | linkedinyou | but everything command not found |
| 10:11.09 | linkedinyou | ok |
| 10:11.11 | cedr | night all |
| 10:11.21 | gyaresu | night cedr |
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| 10:12.17 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: You'll need to edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf & add: Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf to the end of the file |
| 10:12.37 | linkedinyou | yum not found so i use the dpkg |
| 10:12.43 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: I usually put a comment in with my username like # gyaresu changed to make phpmyadmin work |
| 10:12.57 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: This is debian. Everything is through aptitude |
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| 10:13.37 | linkedinyou | how is that can you please explain the aptitude? |
| 10:13.50 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Then install automysqlbackup and think about setting up an offsite backup (I use a script with Amazon S3) |
| 10:13.59 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: aptitude is the debian package manager |
| 10:14.54 | linkedinyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:15.02 | gyaresu | You're going to need to also run $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config | set it to send outbound mail. |
| 10:15.07 | linkedinyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:15.09 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: aptitude is better |
| 10:15.23 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Where are you getting webmin? |
| 10:15.37 | linkedinyou | ok i will use aptitude |
| 10:15.45 | linkedinyou | is it like |
| 10:15.55 | linkedinyou | aptitude install sudo? |
| 10:16.01 | nkuttler | !webmin |
| 10:16.02 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 10:16.09 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: sudo aptitude search blah |
| 10:16.25 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: find the package you want and then run $ sudo aptitude install foo -s |
| 10:16.26 | nkuttler | linkedinyou: there's no need for sudo to search aptitude |
| 10:16.36 | nkuttler | linkedinyou: don't use root privileges when you don't need them |
| 10:16.47 | ksuhku | ^^ |
| 10:16.49 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: the -s will just pretend or 'simulate' installing the package. If it succeeds, run it again without the -s |
| 10:17.30 | linkedinyou | it install something but i will try to run the commond |
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| 10:19.31 | gyaresu | judd: help |
| 10:19.32 | judd | (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 10:19.48 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : thank you sudo works now |
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| 10:20.16 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Ok, now did you accidentaly try and install webmin? |
| 10:20.18 | linkedinyou | While not mandatory, it is highly recommended that you set │ |
| 10:20.18 | linkedinyou | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:20.34 | linkedinyou | no i am still in the mysql |
| 10:20.45 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: yes it is mandatory. Use a decent passphrase |
| 10:20.53 | linkedinyou | it is asking me to password |
| 10:21.09 | linkedinyou | how i do that |
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| 10:21.15 | nkuttler | linkedinyou: with your keyboard |
| 10:21.33 | nkuttler | just type whatever password you want to use in the future |
| 10:21.49 | linkedinyou | ok |
| 10:21.53 | ompaul | linkedinyou: and don't use a password you use for anything else, and make it unique |
| 10:22.10 | linkedinyou | yes ok |
| 10:24.12 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: all good? you've got a few steps there to go :) |
| 10:24.35 | linkedinyou | yes done the frist command |
| 10:24.42 | linkedinyou | and i will do the others |
| 10:24.47 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: I'm on irssi so if you talk to me make sure you use name completion. |
| 10:24.57 | linkedinyou | i done this <gyaresu> then sudo aptitude install mysql-server mysql-client |
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| 10:25.20 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : ok |
| 10:25.27 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Make sure you ask if you don't know why you're doing something. Just running random commands from well-meaning strangers is usually an awesome plan ;) |
| 10:25.45 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : ok sudo aptitude install apache2 |
| 10:25.51 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: yep |
| 10:26.11 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: I just install apache2 first and then the modules separately out of habit. |
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| 10:27.20 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : and now how to install the phpmyadmin please? |
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| 10:28.31 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Read above. Insatall the package and then edit the apache config |
| 10:29.51 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : ok |
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| 10:30.15 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: You've edited the apache config? Added the 'Include'? |
| 10:30.31 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : no i will now |
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| 10:31.40 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Once you have you should be able to $ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload | and get http://your_ip_addres & http://your_ip_address/phpmyadmin |
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| 10:36.45 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: All good? |
| 10:37.08 | vyadhaka | when launching a new x server, how do I make it start on a specific virtual terminal, like vt1, right now it launches the server on vt8 |
| 10:37.16 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : yes just added the include for phpmyadmin |
| 10:37.45 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: so restart the server and check for error messages and if all's ok you should see the default website |
| 10:38.06 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : ok |
| 10:39.32 | ompaul | D4rKr0W`afk: the way to do the afk is to do /away Put A Reason Here - then you avoid these nick changes |
| 10:39.52 | nkuttler | vyadhaka: man 1 Xorg |
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| 10:40.29 | nkuttler | vyadhaka: btw, why do you want to do that? |
| 10:40.59 | gyaresu | remote screens I'm guessing. |
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| 10:42.16 | xylon | what exactly is installed when I seect `Graphical desktop environment' in the software selection in the netinstall |
| 10:42.38 | xylon | Can I start off without a DE and install one later? |
| 10:42.45 | gyaresu | xylon: sure |
| 10:42.51 | nkuttler | xylon: apt-cache show task-desktop |
| 10:43.00 | nkuttler | xylon: basically, gnome |
| 10:43.45 | xylon | hmm the buzybox console doesn't find apt-cache |
| 10:43.54 | xylon | is task-desktop a package group? |
| 10:44.08 | nkuttler | xylon: because it's busybox? |
| 10:44.45 | nkuttler | xylon: it's just a package with dependencies |
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| 10:44.56 | xylon | cool |
| 10:45.11 | xylon | just I want to make sure I will still be able to get the full thing |
| 10:45.15 | xylon | here I go |
| 10:45.41 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : in the /etc i do not see the phpmyadmin |
| 10:45.46 | linkedinyou | did we installed that |
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| 10:46.45 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Did you? Remember how I said you should write down every command. |
| 10:46.48 | nkuttler | linkedinyou: see /usr/share/doc/package for instructions |
| 10:46.51 | gyaresu | It's for a good reason :) |
| 10:46.53 | xylon | it's basically because I remember reading somewere that you need to edit grub command line on Eeepc for eepc-laptop module to load, and that I should install the DE afterward |
| 10:47.10 | xylon | but can't find it again |
| 10:47.47 | nkuttler | xylon: sounds like something the kernel should do on it's own |
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| 10:48.01 | nkuttler | and doesn't really have much to do with your DE |
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| 10:48.36 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: nkuttler Yep. It's basically as I linked though. After it's installed just add "Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf" (without the quotes to the end of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 10:49.18 | hubabuba44 | hi I've a strange ssh daemon problem on squeeze. For some reason ssh server does not start at boot |
| 10:49.24 | xylon | nkuttler: but if the module doesn't load maybe touchpad and stuff won't get configure correctly |
| 10:49.35 | nkuttler | hubabuba44: do you get any errors in the logs? |
| 10:49.48 | nkuttler | xylon: oh well that's not a big deal. just load it manually then |
| 10:50.13 | nkuttler | xylon: assuming you know the shortcuts to launch a terminal ;) |
| 10:50.13 | hubabuba44 | nkuttler: it's a vserver so I don't have a console attached or so |
| 10:50.23 | nkuttler | hubabuba44: you don't get in at all? |
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| 10:50.51 | hubabuba44 | although I do have a rescue system where I can mount the system partition |
| 10:50.53 | hubabuba44 | and check logs |
| 10:51.06 | hubabuba44 | so far I haven't seen anything in any log... :( |
| 10:52.34 | hubabuba44 | I've chrooted into my system partition and looked at logs and also made sure that the /etc/rc3.d symlinks are setup |
| 10:52.46 | hubabuba44 | in order to make sure that openssh starts |
| 10:53.06 | hubabuba44 | is there a way to add some debug logging to the ssh daemon? |
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| 10:53.24 | hubabuba44 | maybe in /etc/ssh/sshd_config? |
| 10:54.20 | hubabuba44 | adding LogLevel VERBOSE |
| 10:54.21 | nkuttler | hubabuba44: yeah. in the chroot you could also try to start sshd |
| 10:54.45 | hubabuba44 | ah yeah good call thanks |
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| 10:58.37 | hubabuba44 | I'm able to start sshd and it does also work |
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| 10:59.05 | hubabuba44 | I assume that on boot something fails prior to setting up ssh |
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| 11:00.39 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: You've gone rather quiet. |
| 11:01.08 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : i am trying |
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| 11:01.18 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Something wrong? |
| 11:01.25 | valdyn | !debug ssh |
| 11:01.26 | dpkg | To debug sshd (server), run this as root on the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. See also <slow ssh connect>, <ssh permissions>. |
| 11:01.52 | grobda24 | Is "make ${PLATFORM}_defconfig" the only starting point for kernel config that helps set the config values ? Are there any other ways of setting up the kernel like using HAL detection for example ? |
| 11:02.10 | valdyn | grobda24: no |
| 11:02.31 | valdyn | grobda24: why dont you use a debian kernel? |
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| 11:02.55 | grobda24 | valdyn: no there are no other starting points, or no you can't use HAL ? |
| 11:03.05 | valdyn | grobda24: theres no "hal" |
| 11:03.14 | grobda24 | valdyn: ok, thanks |
| 11:03.19 | valdyn | grobda24: and you cant use that non-existing thing either |
| 11:04.11 | valdyn | ( yes theres an old hal package, but thats not needed anymore and its likely no longer developed anyway ) |
| 11:04.18 | nkuttler | hubabuba44: is the network up, can you ping the box? |
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| 11:04.54 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : did not manage to see the phpmyadmin |
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| 11:05.09 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: ? |
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| 11:05.30 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Is it installed? Just run $ sudo aptitude install phpmyadmin | again |
| 11:05.41 | hubabuba44 | nkuttler: yeah I can ping it |
| 11:05.50 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Obviously with out "| again" on the end. |
| 11:06.03 | hubabuba44 | also apache has bound to port 80 and 443 |
| 11:06.34 | hubabuba44 | although apache doesn't work bc of the cert password |
| 11:06.37 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : i am trying TO INSTALL AGAIN |
| 11:06.45 | nkuttler | hubabuba44: that's odd.. maybe sshd starts too early |
| 11:06.56 | hubabuba44 | S19 |
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| 11:07.09 | nkuttler | hubabuba44: i'd probably restart sshd from cron just to test if it can run at all |
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| 11:07.21 | nkuttler | or add another init script.. |
| 11:07.32 | hubabuba44 | yes I'm about to do that |
| 11:07.40 | hubabuba44 | and remove all other init scripts |
| 11:07.46 | nkuttler | hubabuba44: remove all other? |
| 11:07.48 | hubabuba44 | except the ones ssh needs |
| 11:07.55 | hubabuba44 | e.g. removing apache |
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| 11:09.07 | hubabuba44 | what is the standard way to remove/disable debian init scritps? |
| 11:09.17 | hubabuba44 | on debian squeeze, insserv? |
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| 11:10.12 | gyaresu | hubabuba44: You know you can add something like: SSLPassPhraseDialog exec:/etc/apache2/ssl/ssl.sh and just have #!/bin/sh echo "blah blah blah" to deal with SSL passphrase yeah? (sorry if obvious) |
| 11:10.42 | nkuttler | hubabuba44: rcconf, update-rc.d |
| 11:10.43 | hubabuba44 | gyaresu thanks I didn't know |
| 11:10.44 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : sorry for bad typooo |
| 11:10.52 | gyaresu | hubabuba44: coo |
| 11:10.52 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : │ Please choose the web server that should be automatically │ |
| 11:10.52 | linkedinyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:11.13 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: yep. so chose apache |
| 11:11.15 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : what i choose? |
| 11:11.20 | linkedinyou | ok |
| 11:11.35 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: >< Big learning curve here huh? :) |
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| 11:12.16 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : you done good job for me thank you bunch of thanks |
| 11:12.35 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : what i choose? The phpmyadmin package must have a database installed and |
| 11:12.36 | linkedinyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.36 | linkedinyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.48 | linkedinyou | If you are an advanced database administrator and know |
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| 11:13.10 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: You've got mysql installed and a passphrase right? Here's a hint: it's that. |
| 11:13.30 | linkedinyou | yes i guess |
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| 11:14.49 | hubabuba44 | ahh so disabling apache2 fixed the ssh issue |
| 11:15.06 | gyaresu | hubabuba44: orly? |
| 11:15.08 | hubabuba44 | looks like that the apache2 init script blocked on the ssl passphrase |
| 11:15.16 | gyaresu | haha! |
| 11:15.23 | hubabuba44 | and prevented ssh from starting |
| 11:15.33 | hubabuba44 | that is somehow a bit lame I think... |
| 11:15.49 | hubabuba44 | can that be really the case? |
| 11:16.00 | gyaresu | hubabuba44: Of course. |
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| 11:16.11 | nkuttler | hubabuba44: well, not everything is parallelized (yet) |
| 11:16.15 | hubabuba44 | why is init not handling something like this |
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| 11:16.34 | hubabuba44 | but I'm glad it is working now ;) |
| 11:16.36 | hubabuba44 | yehaaaa |
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| 11:17.09 | hubabuba44 | nkuttler: yeah systemd would have handled this better |
| 11:17.11 | hubabuba44 | :p |
| 11:17.16 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : mysql is root now what i have to do for the phpmyadmin? |
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| 11:17.50 | hubabuba44 | nkuttler and gyaresu thanks for your help! |
| 11:17.57 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Ok. So you've put in your username: root and the passphrase: whatever_that_was. Now you need to edit the files like I linked above. |
| 11:18.26 | gyaresu | hubabuba44: A pleasure. |
| 11:18.37 | gyaresu | Anything to keep me away from my own work... |
| 11:19.08 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : what is the paasphrase? |
| 11:19.49 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: remember when you installed mysql-server you had to chose a passphrase. Did you write it down |
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| 11:20.24 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: No priv messages. a) they're annoying b) the rest of the room will pick up your helpers mistakes :) |
| 11:21.13 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : is that same paassword i make for the mysql? |
| 11:21.29 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: But yeah, I'll be around. And what I'm helping you with isn't rocket science but if you don't write all the steps down then it's hard to know what you've done and get help for it. |
| 11:21.38 | linkedinyou | i have |
| 11:21.38 | linkedinyou | Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input statement. |
| 11:21.39 | linkedinyou | mysql> |
| 11:22.04 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Yep. phpmyadmin just needs the user root & the passphrase when you $ sudo aptitude install phpmyadmin |
| 11:22.08 | linkedinyou | mysql> is open now |
| 11:22.20 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Don't worry about using mysql from the command line yet. |
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| 11:23.01 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : phpmyadmin is same root paasphrase? |
| 11:23.11 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: The whole reason for phpmyadmin is so you can access it from http://your_ip/phpmyadmin and import/export/admin your database from a nice easy graphical interface |
| 11:23.42 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: no. When you installed mysql-server did you give it a passphrase/password? |
| 11:24.02 | linkedinyou | yes i did |
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| 11:24.14 | gyaresu | was it different to your users password |
| 11:24.27 | linkedinyou | yes differnet |
| 11:24.56 | gyaresu | awesome. then the username is root and the password is whatever you made it ONLY for mysql. |
| 11:25.30 | gyaresu | So when phpmyadmin was installing it would have asked for the user (root) and that password. It wouldn't have kept going if you gave it the wrong one. |
| 11:25.55 | gyaresu | If that's installed now then you can restart apache (if you've added that line) and access your website. |
| 11:26.09 | linkedinyou | ah |
| 11:26.29 | linkedinyou | infront of me now still that question |
| 11:26.31 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: I'm guessing your server is installed like 192.168.1.1 or something yeah? |
| 11:26.42 | gyaresu | mmm? |
| 11:26.43 | linkedinyou | ─────────┤ Configuring phpmyadmin ├───── |
| 11:26.50 | gyaresu | ah. cool. |
| 11:27.00 | linkedinyou | what i do now? |
| 11:27.03 | gyaresu | Just give it the user/pass we just discussed. |
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| 11:27.26 | linkedinyou | │ If you are an advanced database administrator and know |
| 11:27.37 | linkedinyou | i click ok? |
| 11:27.43 | linkedinyou | ok still there |
| 11:27.44 | a7x | is it possible to install debian in another partition through debootstrap and boot into it? |
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| 11:29.05 | ompaul | a7x: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 11:29.13 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : The phpmyadmin package must have a database installed |
| 11:29.24 | linkedinyou | i have to make a database now |
| 11:29.25 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: yep, so chose mysql |
| 11:30.31 | a7x | oh thanks ompaul |
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| 11:32.10 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: http://debianhelp.co.uk/phpmyadmin.htm this might help you at some point. Are you stuck? |
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| 11:32.35 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : yes i am stuck |
| 11:33.06 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : i did restarted the server it is unable |
| 11:33.16 | a7x | okay ompaul that is not what i was looking for |
| 11:33.34 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: How did you restart the server? |
| 11:33.45 | linkedinyou | reboot |
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| 11:33.58 | linkedinyou | typedin the console reboot |
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| 11:34.09 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: no. that's not necessary. you just need to run $ sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 11:34.12 | nsadmin | a7x, howbout man debootstrao? |
| 11:34.23 | nsadmin | -o+p |
| 11:34.39 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Did phpmyadmin install ok in the end? no errors? |
| 11:34.42 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : oh sorry for my big mastake |
| 11:34.58 | gyaresu | no problem that's why I'm trying to ask you very specific questions. |
| 11:35.10 | linkedinyou | was no error but the configuration did not esponde |
| 11:35.18 | linkedinyou | respond* |
| 11:35.55 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: you mean it didn't come back to a command prompt? or something else? I don't understand. |
| 11:36.14 | nsadmin | a7x, the direct answer to your question is: yes. |
| 11:37.32 | linkedinyou | yes it run another console |
| 11:37.50 | linkedinyou | and asked for new root password |
| 11:38.19 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: new? You just need to log in as the new user you made. |
| 11:39.03 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: like rather than root@ip_address it's going to be linkedinyou@ip_address |
| 11:39.15 | a7x | nsadmin, thanks, anyway it actually looks easier to download a .iso... i wanted to avoid it |
| 11:39.19 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : ill NOT be preserved! |
| 11:39.19 | linkedinyou | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
| 11:39.32 | a7x | nsadmin, and the main problem wasn't debootstrap but grub + postinstall scripts |
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| 11:40.07 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Yeah. You screwed it. That's not a problem. But you're having a problem actually DOING what I'm telling you. I don't know, it might be me.... |
| 11:40.27 | Borillion | when you do dig -x with a url are u supposed to see an answer section? |
| 11:40.34 | linkedinyou | no i am sure it is me |
| 11:40.45 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: can you log in as the new user you made or are you logged in as root? |
| 11:40.55 | linkedinyou | becouse it opened another console and i closed it |
| 11:40.58 | valdyn | Borillion: dig does not take urls |
| 11:41.03 | Borillion | I see |
| 11:41.10 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: You're using putty or something are you? |
| 11:41.11 | linkedinyou | i am root |
| 11:41.14 | Borillion | that would be my issue then :P |
| 11:41.19 | linkedinyou | yes putty |
| 11:41.22 | nsadmin | a7x, actually it might be easier... install the base, mount appropirate non-disk mounts, chroot in, install kernel |
| 11:41.23 | abrotman | Borillion: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 11:41.24 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: alright. Log out d |
| 11:41.26 | valdyn | Borillion: its only for querying dns |
| 11:41.31 | linkedinyou | ok |
| 11:41.45 | nsadmin | then arrange to boot that from your existing grub |
| 11:41.58 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Putty is just making a duplicate shell. You don't want to log in as root@ anymore. You want to log in as whatever_your_username_is@ |
| 11:41.58 | Borillion | Im trying to see why gmail is dumping the incoming messages from this url into spam |
| 11:42.12 | valdyn | Borillion: qmail does not deal in urls either |
| 11:42.36 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : ok i will login as user |
| 11:43.01 | valdyn | Borillion: theres ips and theres dns domain names, a URL is something else |
| 11:43.09 | Borillion | kk |
| 11:43.34 | Borillion | whatever is going on gmail wont/doesn't like my messages and thinks they are spam |
| 11:43.43 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Great. I'm guessing it was phpmyadmin that didn't get installed properly and was complaining because I think you rebooted while still in the install. So you can reconfigure that now by... |
| 11:43.43 | valdyn | Borillion: read the log file |
| 11:43.54 | nsadmin | and it's probably important to know which is which while you're discussing mail servers |
| 11:44.15 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin |
| 11:44.53 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: And I know I've asked you before but please tell me that you've installed the mysql-server package because otherwise phpmyadmin won't work. |
| 11:45.11 | Borillion | I know that URL -> dns lookup to resolve to an ip for server |
| 11:45.19 | abrotman | gyaresu: can't it work against a remote mysql system? |
| 11:45.20 | nsadmin | no |
| 11:45.25 | valdyn | Borillion: geez, i told you, URL is something else |
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| 11:45.32 | Borillion | ROFL kk |
| 11:45.32 | valdyn | Borillion: a dns domain name is not a URL |
| 11:46.00 | gyaresu | abrotman: phpmyadmin can work against remote mysql servers yep. |
| 11:46.07 | abrotman | right ... |
| 11:46.20 | gyaresu | abrotman: but the phpmyadmin install is rather straight forward if you've setup mysql first. |
| 11:46.40 | nsadmin | Borillion, again, it's important that you know what these things are. Really. a url follows the form prptocol://name-or-ip/dir |
| 11:46.41 | gyaresu | abrotman: give it username/password, edit apache2.conf, done. |
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| 11:47.30 | Borillion | dns domain name translates Internet domain and host names to IP addresses |
| 11:47.31 | abrotman | i don't want to use mysql or phpmyadmin .. |
| 11:48.15 | gyaresu | abrotman: huh? No-one will make you... |
| 11:48.28 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : it is asking me to add the users to the sudoers |
| 11:48.32 | linkedinyou | ? |
| 11:48.46 | linkedinyou | [sudo] password for rieeda: |
| 11:48.46 | linkedinyou | rieeda is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 11:48.46 | linkedinyou | $ |
| 11:48.57 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Cause you didn't do like I TOLD YOU :) |
| 11:49.17 | linkedinyou | yes i am sorry :( |
| 11:49.20 | gyaresu | That was the first thing you had to do as root. Install sudo package and edit the /etc/sudoers file |
| 11:49.32 | linkedinyou | ok |
| 11:49.35 | linkedinyou | i will now |
| 11:49.41 | nsadmin | is there a reason you're using sudo? in debian you would have had to install it |
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| 11:50.20 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: You'll have to be root though. So now you'll need to $ su root (Switch User to root) |
| 11:50.41 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: and then you can edit the /etc/sudoers file |
| 11:50.41 | linkedinyou | ok |
| 11:50.42 | nkuttler | nsadmin: gyaresu talked him into it |
| 11:50.49 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 11:50.50 | gyaresu | nsadmin: why not use sudo? |
| 11:51.00 | nkuttler | linkedinyou: use visudo to update that file, never edit it directly |
| 11:51.14 | nsadmin | hope he didn't talk him into disabling root's passwd :) |
| 11:51.50 | Borillion | is there a reason other than SPF records why gmail would be flagging messages as spam? |
| 11:51.56 | gyaresu | nkuttler: linkedinyou Oooh. That's right visudo. Had forgotten about that. See, that's why you don't want to do this in private chat :) |
| 11:51.59 | nsadmin | but, that would be part of a full sudo install |
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| 11:52.15 | gyaresu | Borillion: Because your website has SEO spam affiliate links :) |
| 11:52.24 | linkedinyou | :) |
| 11:52.33 | nsadmin | Borillion, are you receiving the messages? |
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| 11:53.05 | nsadmin | uhoh... someone's been using speedlings :P |
| 11:53.08 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: So do you know what you're putting in the /etc/sudoers file? |
| 11:53.12 | Borillion | Actually Im sending them out from my software to my gmail, they go to the spam folder |
| 11:53.27 | Borillion | I tried other gmail accounts I have the same results |
| 11:53.52 | Borillion | Also I just deployed the software so smap affiliate links would be unlikely no? |
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| 11:54.34 | gyaresu | nsadmin: nkuttler Seriously though, any new Debian reason not to use sudo? Not baiting. |
| 11:54.49 | Borillion | only sends emails to people on signup |
| 11:54.55 | nsadmin | really, you can choose what you want to do |
| 11:56.15 | nsadmin | I have a LOT of shell experience, I can be on as root all day and no problem... if someone is not familiar with the shell, he should limit his root logins, and count to ten before hitting enter on just about anything... maybe, that person could choose sudo |
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| 11:56.56 | gyaresu | nsadmin: cool, same same then :) |
| 11:56.59 | nsadmin | so, myself, I choose to not use sudo |
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| 11:57.18 | gyaresu | nsadmin: You obviously don't drink alcohol then. |
| 11:57.40 | nsadmin | I piped up because I thought it was weird he was using sudo as it's not installed by default on a debian system |
| 11:57.47 | gyaresu | ah |
| 11:57.48 | nsadmin | hell no |
| 11:58.01 | nsadmin | so, I have zero duis |
| 11:58.15 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: How's it going. Is your brain falling out yet? Just say if you're stuck. |
| 11:58.21 | gyaresu | nsadmin: duis? |
| 11:58.35 | linkedinyou | hahahh not stuck |
| 11:58.43 | linkedinyou | i am out of steam lol |
| 11:58.45 | nsadmin | convictions for driving under the influence (dui) of alcohol |
| 11:59.20 | xylon | I didn't select `Graphical desktop environment' when I installedit but now I boot into my new system and I have one anyway |
| 11:59.21 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : give a break teacher |
| 11:59.28 | gyaresu | nsadmin: ah. typing under... coding under... there must be a good one |
| 11:59.38 | xylon | only thing I notice is that grub doesn't have the debian theme |
| 11:59.44 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : best teacher ever i got :) |
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| 12:00.15 | nsadmin | linkedinyou, gyaresu, so if he's tired, it may be time for a break |
| 12:00.36 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: :) Just have a look at the first stuff I mentioned when we started this. It's worth reading over. All fairly sequential. You should be able to get apache started with mysql. If you need more help just make sure you're documenting this so people will know where you're up to. |
| 12:00.41 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : i wont go tell my teaccher say so |
| 12:00.50 | gyaresu | ahaha |
| 12:01.20 | nsadmin | he's a good teacher tho, so he will take that under consideration |
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| 12:01.25 | xylon | and it's true that the module wasn't loaded |
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| 12:01.59 | linkedinyou | nsadmin : yes he is .. we almost done |
| 12:01.59 | gyaresu | I'll never forget loop mounting directories to make the first bootable usb sticks. I can't even remember his name but it was like one of the Knoppix guys. Stayed with me for hours getting that shit working. Blew my freaking mind. Booting Linux from a usb stick OMG! |
| 12:02.09 | nkuttler | xylon: sounds like you did something wrong during package selection |
| 12:02.53 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : and you did that for me hahaahaha |
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| 12:03.09 | nsadmin | gyaresu, blew my own mind recently by successfully booting an installer from pxe |
| 12:03.26 | gyaresu | nsadmin: Yeah, cool huh? |
| 12:03.40 | nsadmin | yup... I couldn't boot any other way |
| 12:04.07 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : teacher just 10 minutes please i will go for natural needs :) |
| 12:04.14 | gyaresu | nsadmin: I used to get such a rush from building xp install cd's with lots of software packaged. Used to save hours. I ran my own business so that was 10-20 machines a weeks. |
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| 12:04.38 | nsadmin | oh that's right, I'm still trying to have udev recognize my cdrom so it puts it in the cdrom group |
| 12:04.51 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: No problem dude. Lots of others here will help you also but if you particularly get stuck just tweet me @gyaresu and I'll pop in if I'm free. |
| 12:05.02 | xylon | encrypting my eepc's drive divided read speeds by 10 |
| 12:05.15 | valdyn | xylon: nice |
| 12:05.16 | nsadmin | or maybe it's in the floppy group because a rule matched afterward that said group is floppy |
| 12:05.17 | xylon | because I have baddass SSD |
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| 12:05.23 | mparodi | Hello |
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| 12:05.38 | gyaresu | mparodi: Hello. How may we be of assistance :) |
| 12:05.39 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : an you please give me an email?i do not know tweet c |
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| 12:05.52 | nsadmin | mparodi, hi, welcome to debian support |
| 12:05.53 | valdyn | nsadmin: you probably dont even have a floppy, so why dont you remove floppy rules temporarily? |
| 12:05.57 | gyaresu | ahaha |
| 12:06.17 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: I'm sure with my username you'll find me on the internet :) There aren't any others. |
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| 12:06.56 | mparodi | Is there any way to fix this iceweasel error? http://i.imgur.com/erek1.png |
| 12:07.00 | mparodi | it's pretty annoying -.- |
| 12:07.02 | nsadmin | actually... there are various floppy drives in the room, but no actual floppies, and this machine (my laptop) does not have a floppy |
| 12:07.02 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : me too with this nickname you can find me anywhere in the world of net :) |
| 12:07.26 | mparodi | and it happens a lot! |
| 12:07.31 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: I'll remember that next time I need an apache server configured ;) |
| 12:07.49 | abrotman | mparodi: it's not shutting down correctly .. kill it |
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| 12:08.07 | nsadmin | valdyn, when I would restart udev, what happens? does it make nodes? empty nodes first? |
| 12:08.13 | mparodi | abramart, I can't kill it every time I want to open it! |
| 12:08.16 | abrotman | mparodi: and if you want to debug it, try running without plugins for a start |
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| 12:08.27 | mparodi | I mean, I can, but I prefer using another browser instead |
| 12:08.29 | valdyn | nsadmin: i dont know |
| 12:08.35 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : i guess i will leave you nice memory thou just wait as much you can it is minutes |
| 12:08.39 | linkedinyou | 10 minutes |
| 12:08.40 | valdyn | nsadmin: its recreated on reboot anyway |
| 12:08.47 | linkedinyou | brb |
| 12:08.50 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: I'll be around. |
| 12:09.13 | nsadmin | do you think the nodes are already created by the time udev gets to it? |
| 12:09.15 | abrotman | mparodi: is there already an actual window open ? |
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| 12:09.58 | mparodi | abramart, the problem is that once you close it you can't open it again immediately. it needs like 5 seconds while the process ends. so if you try to re-open it, it returns this error |
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| 12:10.06 | mparodi | it doesn't happen with any other browser! |
| 12:10.06 | abrotman | mparodi: abro<tab> |
| 12:10.16 | mparodi | abrotman, ^ |
| 12:10.19 | mparodi | :P |
| 12:10.24 | nsadmin | abrocatabro? |
| 12:10.30 | nsadmin | wow :) |
| 12:10.38 | abrotman | mparodi: tried without plugins? |
| 12:10.58 | gyaresu | nsadmin: werry punny |
| 12:11.01 | mparodi | I have... 2 plugins, it can't be the ṕroblem :| |
| 12:11.09 | abrotman | mparodi: which two? |
| 12:11.29 | gyaresu | waits for next customer service call... |
| 12:11.53 | nsadmin | gyaresu, it's my normal pundition |
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| 12:12.20 | mparodi | plugins: Shockwave Flash, addons: addblock, firebug |
| 12:12.30 | gyaresu | nsadmin: Always stack the same. Don't ever CHANG. |
| 12:12.33 | abrotman | mparodi: flash is a huge PITA .. causes all sorts of problems |
| 12:13.13 | ratatata | how can i downgrade debian from testing back to stable ? |
| 12:13.18 | abrotman | ratatata: you can't |
| 12:13.29 | ratatata | why |
| 12:13.37 | nkuttler | !downgrade |
| 12:13.38 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 12:13.42 | mparodi | ok, I'll try with this plugin disabled then. thanks |
| 12:14.10 | abrotman | ratatata: it's just not supported .. we can't stop you from trying, but we can't guarantee results either |
| 12:14.28 | nsadmin | ratatata, debian devs decided upgrades were enough work as it is... they put a lot of attention on upgrades so they work right |
| 12:14.43 | gyaresu | ratatata: Did this happen because you needed a specific package? Apt Preferences could help... next time. |
| 12:15.04 | abrotman | pinning isn't a good idea when using stable |
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| 12:15.11 | ratatata | no, my pc is old |
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| 12:15.18 | mparodi | I believe the problem is that it takes 5 seconds to close, and it doesn't allow me to create 2 processes. then the solution is to be able to create many processes! |
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| 12:15.38 | nsadmin | debian causes your machine to age??! |
| 12:16.11 | ompaul | nsadmin: for every day it it installed your machine is one day older I guess, or is that conflation? |
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| 12:16.23 | neomewmew | Hi, Im trying to installd debian testing, it keeps failing with an error saying busy box could not be installed |
| 12:16.25 | gyaresu | ratatata: What's the problem with old pc? |
| 12:16.34 | ratatata | i like old gnome |
| 12:16.36 | abrotman | neomewmew: which the daily netinst ? |
| 12:16.36 | nkuttler | neomewmew: are you using the testing installer? |
| 12:16.46 | abrotman | ratatata: okay, well, the easiest method is to reinstall |
| 12:16.47 | ratatata | and chromium browser dont work here |
| 12:17.01 | gyaresu | ratatata: Can't you just install a lighter desktop manager. Fluxbox or something? |
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| 12:17.04 | neomewmew | Using DVD from the weekly builds |
| 12:17.07 | abrotman | ratatata: or you could try to get used to gnome3 or some other WM/DE .. gnome2 is dead upstream, it's going away eventually |
| 12:17.13 | nsadmin | that day it gets older happens no matter what's on its disk |
| 12:17.25 | neomewmew | 3.7gb or something, verified md5 on my download |
| 12:17.36 | ompaul | nsadmin: what I said ;-) |
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| 12:17.42 | ratatata | i want downgrade because in old debia everything workde ok |
| 12:18.00 | ratatata | and now theres a lot of bugs |
| 12:18.04 | abrotman | ratatata: okay, but downgrades aren't supported |
| 12:18.06 | ratatata | im user not dev |
| 12:18.12 | gyaresu | neomewmew: I haven't used graphical installers for a long time. How far is it getting? |
| 12:18.14 | ompaul | ratatata: you need to reinstall, back up your data, and reinstall. |
| 12:18.21 | nsadmin | anyway, how can I figure this out... I'm fighting with udev and fighting (about another thing) with insserv |
| 12:18.26 | abrotman | neomewmew: congrats, you found a bug |
| 12:18.27 | ratatata | ok i will reinstal |
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| 12:18.52 | ratatata | but i thought meybe there is something in apt for that |
| 12:19.08 | abrotman | ratatata: as i said, we can't stop you from trying, but it probably won't go very well |
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| 12:19.15 | gyaresu | ratatata: you don't want to just use a different window manager? |
| 12:19.18 | future | Hi, there is a tool as language-selector for Debian , in my repos of Debian i have a package language-selector but is from ubuntu and dont work in Debia.n |
| 12:19.21 | ompaul | ratatata: whatever you do, back up your data |
| 12:19.33 | abrotman | future: dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 12:19.39 | neomewmew | I partition, it starts copying everything, then it asks me to select a kernel, it errors immediately after selecting. I tried maybe 5 times, it asked for the kernel selection three of those times |
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| 12:19.53 | ompaul | future: don't mix debian and ubuntu - it always ends horribly |
| 12:19.54 | xreal | I've got a file "commands.txt" with several tasks to run. How can I use xargs to run these in parallel? "cat commands.txt | xargs -n 1 -p 10" doesn't work |
| 12:20.08 | neomewmew | The times it didn't ask me, it was still the same spot |
| 12:20.10 | abrotman | neomewmew: you realize that image is not to install testing, but to test the installer? |
| 12:20.29 | abrotman | xreal: why not just make it a proper script ? |
| 12:20.43 | gyaresu | xreal: can you just make it a shell script? |
| 12:20.56 | xreal | abrotman: I want to run the tasks in parallel. |
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| 12:21.24 | future | xreal my english has many limitations , mission impossible for me to help you |
| 12:21.30 | neomewmew | You sure about that? Seems like a complete installation set to me |
| 12:21.42 | neomewmew | Ten DVDs and all |
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| 12:22.26 | abrotman | neomewmew: okay, don't believe me .. good luck! |
| 12:23.01 | abrotman | xreal: so what's the error with xargs? |
| 12:23.35 | xreal | abrotman: it runs every parameter of the command in each line. |
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| 12:23.50 | gyaresu | neomewmew: I have no idea about the dvd's but if you're sure you've got the right one's then memory corruption on the machine is most likely. Download memtest iso and check http://www.memtest86.com/ |
| 12:24.06 | gyaresu | Actually, does the debian installer have memtest on it? |
| 12:24.21 | abrotman | gyaresu: the testing installers are not meant for installing testing, they're for testing the installer .. |
| 12:24.26 | xreal | abrotman: I am stupid. "sh -c" fixed it. |
| 12:24.27 | xreal | Thanks :-) |
| 12:24.38 | abrotman | he should just install stable, then dist-upgrade |
| 12:24.44 | abrotman | xreal: didn't help at all, glad you found your issue |
| 12:25.04 | gyaresu | abrotman: ah, cool. |
| 12:25.13 | xreal | abrotman: I didn't tell xargs what to do with the input :-) |
| 12:26.16 | neomewmew | Just to make sure were on the same page, you're saying that this is not for installing testing? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 12:26.50 | neomewmew | Because the page on debian.org that links to that says its the complete system. |
| 12:26.52 | abrotman | neomewmew: a) you should have used the netinst b) You can use them to install testing, if you're lucky and they work that day. Install stable, dist-upgrade to testing |
| 12:28.01 | Kaede | Some other options are to run stable with backports, or use apt pinning (starting with stable). |
| 12:28.05 | gyaresu | And once we've worked that out... So is memtest a boot option on the Debian install discs? |
| 12:28.24 | abrotman | gyaresu: i believe it is, you can easily test this |
| 12:28.41 | Kaede | I think it has memtest and disc check |
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| 12:29.25 | gyaresu | Thanks. Still putting it out there as problem number two after wrong disc. |
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| 12:33.15 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : i am back fresh now |
| 12:33.28 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : are there teacher? |
| 12:33.32 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: heh. Cool. |
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| 12:33.44 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : thank you teacher |
| 12:33.48 | linkedinyou | :) |
| 12:34.16 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: So first question. Have you really installed mysql-server and given it a username/password? |
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| 12:34.41 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : still trying to see if the phpmyadmin installed i am root now and will make new users |
| 12:34.42 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: You can of course test this by $ mysql -u root -p |
| 12:34.57 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: wait one. |
| 12:35.03 | linkedinyou | yes done with mysql servers |
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| 12:35.28 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Ok, so you're adding a normal user with the adduser command? |
| 12:35.41 | linkedinyou | mysql> |
| 12:35.41 | linkedinyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.48 | neomewmew | Irc died on me |
| 12:35.50 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: What? |
| 12:35.53 | linkedinyou | yes i will add it now |
| 12:36.12 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: why is there a mysql there? Ah, you were just testing to see if it would let you access right? |
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| 12:36.38 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : yes testing |
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| 12:37.02 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: cool. And you've just done $ adduser bob |
| 12:37.15 | neomewmew | Anyway, I was going to say that the netinstall image is not an option because debian inexplicably does not have lynx as a boot application |
| 12:37.36 | abrotman | neomewmew: the browser? use w3m |
| 12:37.40 | gyaresu | neomewmew: And you need lynx why? |
| 12:37.51 | neomewmew | I have to authenticate via a browser to get internet access |
| 12:37.59 | abrotman | neomewmew: w3m cannot work for you? |
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| 12:38.05 | abrotman | is pretty sure that's on the netinst |
| 12:38.08 | gyaresu | neomewmew: urg. hate that. |
| 12:38.21 | neomewmew | Didn't know what debian had |
| 12:38.37 | neomewmew | Lynx is the only click browser I knew |
| 12:38.45 | abrotman | click? |
| 12:38.46 | neomewmew | Cli+* |
| 12:38.51 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Do we have a non-root user yet? |
| 12:38.51 | neomewmew | Auto correct |
| 12:39.12 | abrotman | neomewmew: lynx, links/links2, w3m |
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| 12:39.59 | nsadmin | neomewmew, why do you need lynx? |
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| 12:40.05 | abrotman | nsadmin: we already covered it |
| 12:40.11 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : yes done with the new user now |
| 12:40.25 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: cool so now you need to $ visudo |
| 12:40.37 | neomewmew | going to try one more time with net access, maybe it was trying to dl busybox and failed because it couldnt get out |
| 12:40.55 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : what is the $ visudo |
| 12:41.11 | abrotman | linkedinyou: why can't you 'aptitude install phpmyadmin' ? |
| 12:41.15 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: which edits your /etc/sudoers file. You need to add the user and the permissions below the root ALL=(ALL) ALL entry |
| 12:41.16 | nsadmin | abrotman, how far back? |
| 12:41.16 | linkedinyou | i did the su new user |
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| 12:41.31 | abrotman | nsadmin: further than the three lines of backscroll you read |
| 12:41.37 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: You're gonna love this. It's the vim text editer. I'll teach you how to use it. |
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| 12:42.11 | nsadmin | abrotman, that;s not a proper distance :P |
| 12:42.15 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : :) yes i never used the text editer |
| 12:42.25 | linkedinyou | i wish i can learn one |
| 12:42.29 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Don't $ su bob |
| 12:42.32 | nsadmin | how long ago in minutes |
| 12:42.39 | abrotman | nsadmin: FIIK .. SCROLL UP |
| 12:42.45 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: ^d to logout as new user. You need to be root to run visudo |
| 12:42.50 | abrotman | nsadmin: the guy only typed like 15 lines .. |
| 12:43.09 | nsadmin | ok, so that;s what I thought. |
| 12:43.43 | nsadmin | oh, got it |
| 12:43.54 | nsadmin | can't he use wget with a cookie file? |
| 12:44.01 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: So you should have CTRL + d (^d) and be root again yeah? then run $ visudo and tell me when you see the file come up with root ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 12:44.22 | gyaresu | nsadmin: session info... |
| 12:44.23 | abrotman | nsadmin: or he could use the browser that is on the netinst .. shocker i know |
| 12:44.42 | nsadmin | which browser is that? |
| 12:44.45 | nsadmin | links? |
| 12:44.58 | abrotman | nsadmin: read the backscroll |
| 12:45.08 | nsadmin | it is a shocker... I wasn't aware the base had any browser |
| 12:45.09 | abrotman | nsadmin: take 5 minutes, try reading |
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| 12:46.16 | gyaresu | puts loving vibe out through the internets to soothe the overly caffeinated linux geeks ;) |
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| 12:46.35 | linkedinyou | gyaresu :yes i can see the sudoers |
| 12:46.36 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: *snore* |
| 12:46.43 | nsadmin | you've spent more time trying to put me down than to give the answer you obviously knew |
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| 12:46.54 | nsadmin | and more bandwidth |
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| 12:47.10 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: cool. vim has two modes. one mode where you drive around and one where you edit the file. |
| 12:47.11 | abrotman | nsadmin: take a timeout, read the backscroll |
| 12:47.39 | abrotman | nsadmin: you could have easily answered your own questions instead of constantly showing your lack of desire to read and continually showing ignorance |
| 12:47.45 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: I just want you to use the j k l and h keys to move the cursor down the page (hint 'j' is down) :) |
| 12:47.55 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : yes i will add the new user under the root all |
| 12:48.12 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: You know hwo to use vim? |
| 12:49.08 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : never used it nor any text editor |
| 12:49.26 | linkedinyou | i was using the ftp |
| 12:49.36 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: place your cursor over the 'r' in 'root' and hit the 'o' key. That will open the line below and then you just type in your username and exactly the same format e.g. bob ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 12:49.38 | linkedinyou | then i upload the text |
| 12:50.26 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : which r?? |
| 12:50.29 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: when you're happy that you've got it right hit the escape key which will stop you from editing and then you literally need to type :wq (That's colon w q) |
| 12:50.47 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: the 'r' at the start of the word 'root' |
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| 12:54.06 | linkedinyou | gyaresu : the green cursor over the root r the ctrl o |
| 12:54.44 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: NO. READ WHAT I WRITE. |
| 12:54.50 | linkedinyou | it open file name to write /etc/sudoers.tmp |
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| 12:56.22 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: Yes that's correct about the file but just move your cursor down and hit the 'o' key. It means 'open' the line and start editing. There are many commands you can do. I'll show you a prog that teaches you but first just do exactly as I've written. |
| 12:57.12 | gyaresu | linkedinyou: the :wq means: colon says I'm gonna do some funky command. the 'w' means 'write' and the 'q' means quit. |
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| 12:58.03 | linkedinu | gyaresu: |
| 12:58.11 | gyaresu | linkedinu: Yo. |
| 12:58.16 | linkedinu | gyaresu: disconnected from net sorry |
| 12:58.21 | linkedinu | gyaresu:back |
| 12:58.22 | gyaresu | heh. |
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| 12:58.54 | linkedinu | hehehe it is the electrisity down lots of tine in the summer |
| 12:59.06 | gyaresu | linkedinu: You'll want a programme called tmux. Write it down in case we don't get to it. |
| 12:59.58 | linkedinu | gyaresu:done wrote it down |
| 13:00.24 | gyaresu | linkedinu: Cool. So now can you $ visudo that sucker so we can move on? :) |
| 13:00.26 | linkedinu | gyaresu:what is it for the tmux? |
| 13:00.38 | abrotman | !tell linkedinu about screen |
| 13:01.08 | gyaresu | linkedinu: It's so if you disconnect you can $ tmux attach and reconnect to stuff you were doing. So if you were in the middle of editing or updating it won't break everything by getting disconected |
| 13:01.23 | gyaresu | abrotman: your way's easier |
| 13:01.56 | linkedinu | gyaresu: ah that what i use in CentOS IN SCREEN? |
| 13:02.02 | gyaresu | !tell linkedinu how to install a hardened lamp stack |
| 13:02.06 | linkedinu | gyaresu:screen |
| 13:02.09 | abrotman | gyaresu: not quite |
| 13:02.19 | abrotman | linkedinu: why aren't you using the phpmyadmin packages? |
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| 13:02.37 | gyaresu | linkedinu: screen and tmux are the same thing. just use tmux. |
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| 13:02.53 | abrotman | or just use screen if you already are familiar with it |
| 13:02.56 | gyaresu | abrotman: linkedinu We're still installing sudo... |
| 13:03.03 | abrotman | but why? |
| 13:03.07 | gyaresu | abrotman: linkedinu ^ what he said about screen. |
| 13:03.15 | linkedinu | gyaresu: ah ok what perfer i will use it teacher |
| 13:03.19 | abrotman | what does sudo have to do with installing phpmyadmin ? |
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| 13:03.58 | gyaresu | abrotman: linkedinu has never installed debian or linux and I've been trying to help him. There's a few packages that are good to have in place first. |
| 13:04.03 | linkedinu | abortman : it is about me here disconnected while procesing the installition |
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| 13:04.11 | mikkelb | I'm trying to mass-download all spreadsheets off this site. Anybody know why this won't seem to fetch any .xls files? wget -m http://survivalware.wordpress.com/ -A xls |
| 13:04.16 | abrotman | gyaresu: but he's just asking how to install phpmyadmin .. |
| 13:04.29 | gyaresu | abrotman: sudo is nicer and gives you more respect for the power of the command line especially if you've never used it before. |
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| 13:04.46 | abrotman | it's only nicer if you actually understand how to use it and what it does |
| 13:04.51 | abrotman | otherwise, use 'su' |
| 13:04.53 | gyaresu | abrotman: no. he started with. "help i have a naked vps. what do I do?" and wanted to install webmin |
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| 13:05.07 | abrotman | there's the first mistake ... |
| 13:05.28 | linkedinu | gyaresu: promise you i wont use the webmin |
| 13:05.49 | gyaresu | abrotman: Soooooooo. I'm helping him down the path of sysadminyness. AS SOON AS HE GETS THAT FILE EDITED :) |
| 13:06.01 | abrotman | or just don't do it ... |
| 13:06.05 | abrotman | !tel linkedinu about grounding |
| 13:06.10 | abrotman | !tell linkedinu about grounding |
| 13:06.21 | gyaresu | then we can move back to $ dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin |
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| 13:06.31 | linkedinu | am i grounded now?? |
| 13:06.34 | gyaresu | !tell gyaresu about grounding |
| 13:07.09 | gyaresu | cool |
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| 13:07.49 | gyaresu | Ok. So abrotman . Do you think linkedinu should go away and read the Debian install information? |
| 13:07.49 | abrotman | neomewmew: any luck? |
| 13:08.05 | nsadmin | linkedinu, no, he's piling documents to read and practice so that you can get better |
| 13:08.09 | abrotman | gyaresu: it might be a good start to have basic skills before running a webserver and database server ? |
| 13:08.21 | abrotman | gyaresu: sudo isn't exactly a basic skill |
| 13:08.27 | abrotman | (or required skill) |
| 13:08.46 | neomewmew | w3m isnt on the dvd image i have, getting ready to burn a 6.0.2 image i have |
| 13:08.53 | mikkelb | you guys HAVE to help me |
| 13:08.57 | abrotman | neomewmew: you also looked for links and links2 ? |
| 13:08.59 | mikkelb | there is NO OTHER WAY |
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| 13:09.08 | neomewmew | yeah |
| 13:09.10 | abrotman | mikkelb: you could click each link |
| 13:09.10 | nsadmin | mikkelb, no we don't. but, we might |
| 13:09.18 | abrotman | neomewmew: that's nonsense .. one of those has to be on the DVD |
| 13:09.20 | mikkelb | :-) |
| 13:09.29 | abrotman | neomewmew: what is the URL to the DVD image you're using ? |
| 13:09.33 | mikkelb | abrotman: i'd rather not, there's probably a couple of hundreds of them |
| 13:09.41 | neomewmew | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 13:09.59 | abrotman | neomewmew: and you used DVD1 ? |
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| 13:10.14 | neomewmew | yep |
| 13:10.33 | abrotman | neomewmew: are you actually trying to use wheezy? |
| 13:10.46 | nsadmin | there must be x, gnome, iceweasel and everything he needs on that cd |
| 13:10.51 | abrotman | i realize that |
| 13:10.56 | neomewmew | its probably there as a package but i was looking in the terminal loaded by the installer |
| 13:10.59 | abrotman | neomewmew: is Debian installed on the box now ? |
| 13:11.12 | neomewmew | no, trying to install |
| 13:11.19 | abrotman | neomewmew: but you have a DVD full of software |
| 13:11.31 | abrotman | neomewmew: just unplug the network cable, configure network later |
| 13:11.40 | linkedinu | abrotman : i do have 4 linux server CentOS AND Opensuse ,, i just rented two dedicated Debian servers |
| 13:11.53 | linkedinu | and all dedicateded self managed |
| 13:11.56 | abrotman | linkedinu: so you're just trying to install LAMP ? |
| 13:12.20 | neomewmew | tried, installer freezes at the same place. the net access was just a theory |
| 13:12.24 | abrotman | neomewmew: no, i'm serious .. if you odn't have the network cable plugged in, it won't try to use the internet to get packges |
| 13:12.53 | linkedinu | i was shocked that when i rented from infinitie.net they give you a skeleton that u have to install everything by ur self |
| 13:13.05 | abrotman | would prefer that if were getting a VPS |
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| 13:13.18 | nsadmin | linkedinu, that's pretty common |
| 13:13.33 | linkedinu | i do not rent VPS |
| 13:13.35 | neomewmew | i tried that. i use wifi, but the card was unplugged (internal requires extra firmware) |
| 13:13.46 | abrotman | gyaresu_hire_me: please don't do that |
| 13:13.59 | forestbird | linkedinu: sounds like a minimal openvz template |
| 13:14.04 | gyaresu_hire_me | abrotman: orly? |
| 13:14.08 | abrotman | yeahreally |
| 13:14.38 | nsadmin | if they're giving you a whole os with root access, they don't necessarily know what to install for you, and they have images and limited time to spend (unless you want to pay their rate{ |
| 13:15.09 | linkedinu | forestbird : i do rent only high RAM |
| 13:15.11 | nsadmin | sometimes you get lucky and get someone who is really in service to his clients |
| 13:15.20 | linkedinu | more then 64 RAM |
| 13:15.33 | nsadmin | 64... what? |
| 13:15.42 | abrotman | anyway ... |
| 13:15.43 | linkedinu | memory |
| 13:15.56 | nsadmin | 64 mb? |
| 13:16.03 | abrotman | neomewmew: even CD1 would have a browser |
| 13:16.23 | linkedinu | my project is needing the Memory to be over 64 RAM |
| 13:16.27 | abrotman | neomewmew: so the DVD complains about busybox? |
| 13:16.49 | linkedinu | 64 GB |
| 13:17.01 | nsadmin | oh, that's a lot |
| 13:17.20 | neomewmew | yep |
| 13:17.36 | abrotman | neomewmew: do yu have the actual error? I'm downloading DVD1 now to see what's going on |
| 13:17.49 | nsadmin | in my first machine I had 4 mb, and I was compiling kernels on it |
| 13:17.57 | abrotman | neomewmew: it should work .. |
| 13:18.42 | neomewmew | i dont, didnt write it down. dont worry about it though, i have a stable dvd that im burning |
| 13:18.59 | abrotman | neomewmew: okay |
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| 13:19.13 | abrotman | neomewmew: the full DVD1? |
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| 13:19.23 | neomewmew | yeah |
| 13:19.34 | abrotman | oh okay |
| 13:19.56 | nsadmin | neomewmew, hard to help you when (by not writing these things down) you can't be specific |
| 13:21.16 | abrotman | it's the testing installer, even if we had the error, it could be broken in ways we may not comprehend |
| 13:22.05 | neomewmew | : it just said busybox could not be installed. it didnt have an error code or anything |
| 13:22.11 | nsadmin | neomewmew, let me just ask, is this your ISP that insists you do this web thing? |
| 13:22.20 | abrotman | he said yes! |
| 13:22.24 | linkedinu | abortmin:? |
| 13:22.25 | neomewmew | said to check the log, which showed nothing unusuall |
| 13:22.31 | abrotman | linkedinu: ? |
| 13:22.37 | linkedinu | abortmin:? how can i install sudo aptitude install phpmyadmin |
| 13:22.43 | abrotman | linkedinu: abro<tab> |
| 13:22.50 | abrotman | linkedinu: you don't need sudo |
| 13:23.05 | abrotman | linkedinu: use 'su' .. get to the # prompt .. then 'aptitude install phpmyadmin' |
| 13:23.11 | linkedinu | abortmin:? it is telling my user is not in the sudoers |
| 13:23.18 | linkedinu | ok |
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| 13:23.31 | nsadmin | I'd say jump providers |
| 13:23.39 | abrotman | may not be an option |
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| 13:24.15 | neomewmew | only one choice of isp here |
| 13:24.56 | abrotman | neomewmew: Kuwait ? |
| 13:25.05 | neomewmew | yeah |
| 13:25.30 | neomewmew | for the next several months anyway |
| 13:26.03 | nsadmin | a satellite provider would be better |
| 13:26.21 | abrotman | are you paying for it? |
| 13:26.26 | nsadmin | but then you're paying a lot, would need a dish, etc |
| 13:26.43 | linkedinu | neomewmew: still can not people use the skpye too in kuwait yes? |
| 13:26.50 | neomewmew | yeah, not nearly as much as a sat link would cost though |
| 13:26.52 | nsadmin | whether I'm paying for it and whether it's better are independent |
| 13:27.33 | neomewmew | you can use skype if you have it, just cant access the skype site withough a proxy |
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| 13:27.41 | abrotman | if he can't change his ISP, you're just rambling for no reason .. |
| 13:27.50 | abrotman | he already said there's only one choice .. just drop it |
| 13:28.17 | linkedinu | ah |
| 13:28.37 | linkedinu | abrotman, |
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| 13:29.23 | nsadmin | neomewmew, do you have other machines? |
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| 13:29.56 | neomewmew | just the one, plus the tablet im on now |
| 13:29.56 | nsadmin | and this service, is it metered? |
| 13:29.59 | linkedinu | abrotman : |
| 13:29.59 | linkedinu | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) |
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| 13:29.59 | linkedinu | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? |
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| 13:30.17 | neomewmew | not metered. |
| 13:30.22 | abrotman | linkedinu: did you 'su'? do you see the # prompt ? |
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| 13:32.19 | versuchsanstalt | good $time_of_day everybody. i am once again looking for the options flags for grip, the cd ripper. you know, the ones with the % sign. i cant get google to find them for me. anyone got a pointer for me? |
| 13:32.34 | linkedinu | abrotman, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
| 13:32.43 | linkedinu | abrotman : |
| 13:32.50 | abrotman | linkedinu: so do that |
| 13:33.01 | linkedinu | what? |
| 13:33.09 | nsadmin | neomewmew, that's good... so, what happens if you do as abrotman suggested, pull the internet cable, boot the installer and install as much as you can off the dvd? |
| 13:33.21 | gyaresu | linkedinu: $ dpkg --configure -a |
| 13:33.30 | abrotman | gyaresu: wrong |
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| 13:33.47 | abrotman | linkedinu: it gives you the command to run |
| 13:33.48 | neomewmew | identical results |
| 13:34.01 | nsadmin | gyaresu, he's not root (still, sigh) |
| 13:34.14 | linkedinu | i am rooooooooot |
| 13:34.24 | abrotman | linkedinu: so run the command the error told you to run |
| 13:34.28 | linkedinu | it is self managed dedicated server |
| 13:34.45 | linkedinu | abrotman, ok |
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| 13:35.07 | gyaresu | It was while installing phpmyadmin. He rebooted the machine. I'm guessing a dpkg-reconfigure is in order. But there's too many chefs at the moment. Going back to my sftp debacle over on terminal 2 |
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| 13:35.15 | nsadmin | you should show us what your current prompt looks like |
| 13:35.37 | abrotman | he said he's root |
| 13:35.46 | nsadmin | gyaresu, the too many chefs thing, that's true |
| 13:35.57 | abrotman | it doesn't sound like he's a total linux newbie, jsut a Debia newbie |
| 13:36.15 | neomewmew | anyway, i need to go. ill try this stable image and see how far it gets me |
| 13:36.22 | abrotman | neomewmew: good luck |
| 13:36.27 | neomewmew | thanks for the help |
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| 13:37.24 | nsadmin | abrotman, he must like a different text editor... he's not adept with vi |
| 13:37.56 | linkedinu | abrotman : now it ask me about the password Please provide the password for the administrative account with which │ |
| 13:37.58 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.07 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.25 | linkedinu | abrotman: what shall i give now? |
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| 13:39.18 | nsadmin | the Password of the database's administrative user :) mysql's superuser acct passwd |
| 13:39.24 | gyaresu | linkedinu: We went through this. Remember. The username was root and the password was whatever you created when you installed mysql-server |
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| 13:39.48 | bjorn_248 | anyone have any idea why I would have an empty dmesg? |
| 13:40.01 | linkedinu | gyaresu, yes i remmber that |
| 13:40.12 | linkedinu | i do have the mysql password |
| 13:40.26 | nsadmin | is that the one it wants? |
| 13:40.26 | linkedinu | gyaresu, i will place it here |
| 13:40.33 | gyaresu | linkedinu: So what do you think it's asking for? |
| 13:41.06 | linkedinu | gyaresu: i thought it is asking for new pass |
| 13:41.19 | nsadmin | linkedinu, it's good he helped you to organize the new passwords and names |
| 13:41.34 | nsadmin | usually you want a notebook to put all this in |
| 13:42.36 | abrotman | you write down passwords? in a notebook? |
| 13:42.55 | nsadmin | sometimes, yes |
| 13:42.57 | ompaul | abrotman: that depends on the disaster recovery requirements |
| 13:43.25 | abrotman | there are other methods |
| 13:43.32 | linkedinu | yes i did write down the pass but i still get this error |
| 13:43.33 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.33 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.33 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.33 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:44.25 | linkedinu | sorry |
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| 13:46.09 | linkedinu | dbconfig-common: flushing administrative password |
| 13:46.16 | linkedinu | all done now |
| 13:46.38 | abrotman | does it actually work? |
| 13:46.59 | linkedinu | gyaresu, abrotman |
| 13:46.59 | linkedinu | verifying access for phpmyadmin@localhost: success. |
| 13:47.00 | linkedinu | creating database phpmyadmin: success. |
| 13:47.09 | linkedinu | lemme check |
| 13:48.02 | linkedinu | abrotman: http://my ip/phpMyAdmin/ |
| 13:48.07 | linkedinu | dose not work |
| 13:48.22 | gyaresu | linkedinu: /etc/init.d/apache2 reload |
| 13:48.41 | linkedinu | gyaresu, ok |
| 13:48.47 | gyaresu | linkedinu: Did you edit the apache2.conf like I said? |
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| 13:49.31 | gyaresu | Oh no because you can't use vim. Well silly me for trying to teach you... /sarcasm (Not aimed at you linkedinu ) |
| 13:49.41 | linkedinu | gyaresu: yes i did add the include |
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| 13:50.00 | nsadmin | gyaresu, what editor does he like? |
| 13:50.00 | gyaresu | awesome sauce. What editor did you use? |
| 13:50.04 | themill | there should be no need to reconfigure apache to run with phpmyadmin |
| 13:50.14 | gyaresu | themill: Yes there is. |
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| 13:50.58 | cusco_ | because its in /usr/share and there needs to be some Alias /phpmyadmin to /usr/share/pma |
| 13:51.13 | cusco_ | but that is the debian package anyway |
| 13:51.19 | linkedinu | gyaresu: teaching me vim is the top needed by me as i tald you i never used the text editors |
| 13:51.21 | gyaresu | themill: You need to add "Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf" to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 13:51.39 | themill | gyaresu: no you don't. |
| 13:51.43 | linkedinu | without the couts |
| 13:51.46 | cusco_ | gyaresu: debian package should create /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin |
| 13:51.47 | cusco_ | or so |
| 13:51.48 | gyaresu | linkedinu: Later on when you have time just run vimtutor |
| 13:51.54 | nsadmin | linkedinu, is nano installed on the remote? |
| 13:51.55 | cusco_ | as a symlinkl |
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| 13:52.23 | linkedinu | nsadmin, my debian is empty |
| 13:52.37 | linkedinu | nothing installed it is self managed |
| 13:53.02 | gyaresu | cusco_: Nope. Version: 4:3.3.7-7 phpmyadmin didn't |
| 13:53.02 | nsadmin | by "self managed" that means you manage it? |
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| 13:53.53 | cusco_ | /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf: symbolic link to `../../phpmyadmin/apache.conf' |
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| 13:54.07 | linkedinu | nsadmin, i have never seen like the infinitie.net it is tatally skeleton no programes |
| 13:54.13 | cusco_ | linkedinu: should be able to access http://your-ip/phpmyadmin (note the small case) |
| 13:54.21 | gyaresu | Brand new naked Debian 6.0.5 installed last week. |
| 13:54.45 | nsadmin | linkedinu, while you shouldn't edit the sudoers file with this, you could (if you're root right now) install, say, nano |
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| 13:54.57 | nsadmin | this editor is small and easy to figure out |
| 13:56.01 | linkedinu | in there /etc/apache2/conf.d/ i do not see the phpmyadmin.conf |
| 13:56.11 | themill | gyaresu, linkedinu: dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin |
| 13:56.40 | mikkelb | there are some pretty cool alternatives to apache and phpmyadmin these days |
| 13:56.53 | gyaresu | themill: For who? Me? Trust me. It wasn't created. Not my first rodeo. |
| 13:57.14 | themill | gyaresu: trust me... it would be created if you asked debconf to do so. |
| 13:57.15 | linkedinu | themill : |
| 13:57.19 | linkedinu | it ask |
| 13:57.21 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.28 | mikkelb | linkedinu: why do you need phpmyadmin? |
| 13:57.31 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.38 | gyaresu | themill: Then why wouldn't it be created upon installation post apache/mysql install? |
| 13:57.40 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:57.43 | gyaresu | Just out of interest. |
| 13:57.53 | linkedinu | or |
| 13:57.55 | linkedinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.11 | themill | gyaresu: it's a lower priority question than what you have debconf configured to ask |
| 13:58.19 | linkedinu | what do i have to choose? |
| 13:58.29 | themill | linkedinu: if it's on the same machine, unix socket |
| 13:58.31 | mikkelb | linkedinu: bitch im talking to u |
| 13:58.34 | nsadmin | unix socket implies the php and web server, and the mysql, are on the same machine |
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| 13:58.41 | themill | mikkelb: steady... |
| 13:58.53 | mikkelb | themill: sorry |
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| 13:58.54 | gyaresu | mikkelb: I recommended it because he wanted webmin. I've been trying to simply get him up with phpmyadmin and Name Based Virtual hosts (I haven't told him that yet). |
| 13:59.29 | nsadmin | if php/apache is on a different machine than mysql, you'd have to do tcp |
| 13:59.36 | mikkelb | gyaresu: but all those tools are old and backwards |
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| 14:00.18 | gyaresu | mikkelb: Really, what like the internet? I write in node, should I recommend that instead? |
| 14:00.22 | nsadmin | if that webmin ever got compromised... |
| 14:00.30 | mikkelb | giving off the false promise of making it easier to administer ones systems, but in reality it's just a veil of confusion that by no means beats using a regular console |
| 14:00.32 | gyaresu | NOBODY IS INSTALLING WEBMIN |
| 14:00.40 | nsadmin | good :P |
| 14:00.46 | gyaresu | oh for god sake |
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| 14:01.02 | mikkelb | all the big boys have replaced apache with nginx |
| 14:01.11 | mikkelb | and php with rails http://rubyonrails.org/screencasts/rails3 |
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| 14:01.30 | nsadmin | rails is pretty cool... I gues... |
| 14:01.39 | mikkelb | when administering ones system via the console you also gain a lot of valuable knowledge of how the system is laid out and how it works |
| 14:01.52 | mikkelb | webmin just gives you a lesson in bad web / user interface design |
| 14:01.54 | linkedinu | thank youuuuuuuuuu guys installed now gyaresu nsadmin themill |
| 14:01.56 | mikkelb | or phpmyadmin or whatever |
| 14:02.27 | gyaresu | oh for the love of all that is sane. Just let this person get a working copy of apache and mysql installed so he can learn the basics. |
| 14:02.43 | mikkelb | gyaresu: dont oh for whatever me man |
| 14:02.57 | mikkelb | just because you realize you're giving off bad advice |
| 14:02.58 | nsadmin | gyaresu, he seems to have succeeded? |
| 14:03.15 | linkedinu | gyaresu, you been so so helpfull thanks alot |
| 14:03.19 | mikkelb | and linkedinu being too new to the game to know any better |
| 14:03.25 | mikkelb | linkedinu: WAKE UP |
| 14:03.34 | gyaresu | mikkelb: Shoosh. You're silly. |
| 14:03.51 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 14:03.53 | mikkelb | hehe yeah you're right |
| 14:04.01 | mikkelb | sorry y'all |
| 14:04.03 | gyaresu | linkedinu: Can you get the Hello! at http://your_ip and also http://you_ip/phpmyadmin ? |
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| 14:04.18 | nsadmin | mikkelb, in my case I run aolserver, tcl, postgres and openacs |
| 14:04.26 | linkedinu | gyaresu, lemme check please |
| 14:04.33 | gyaresu | linkedinu: Yep. |
| 14:04.35 | mikkelb | nsadmin: sweet |
| 14:04.40 | mikkelb | that'll do i guess |
| 14:04.55 | threex | how can i enable clicking with my laptop touchpad..? |
| 14:04.56 | gyaresu | linkedinu: Because if you're interested I'll show you how to add more than one website and bring them up and down. It's not hard. |
| 14:05.06 | mikkelb | as they say "to each his own" |
| 14:05.07 | nsadmin | mikkelb, it's the only thing I know how to create web apps in |
| 14:05.11 | mikkelb | is now playing: Dam-Funk - Toeachizown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S53cOe51W-s) |
| 14:05.17 | gyaresu | threex: I'm tempted to say "use your finger". |
| 14:05.32 | mikkelb | nsadmin: hehe |
| 14:05.39 | linkedinu | gyaresu, The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet. |
| 14:05.53 | linkedinu | yes all works fine now thank you teacher |
| 14:06.20 | threex | i`m sorry i mean , my touchpad wont respond,but it can use to scroll..and move the cursor |
| 14:06.28 | linkedinu | gyaresu, yes i am tatally intersting teacher |
| 14:07.07 | gyaresu | linkedinu: Cool. So there's a couple of other packages I'll recommend you install automysqlbackup, etckeeper, checksecurity and you might need to mess around with exim4 but... |
| 14:07.17 | gyaresu | Just write that stuff down and you can come back to it. |
| 14:07.44 | gyaresu | linkedinu: In your /etc/apache/sites-available are two files default and default-ssl (from memory) |
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| 14:08.17 | threex | gyaresu:can you help me? |
| 14:08.47 | linkedinu | threex, gyaresu is my teacher :) |
| 14:08.54 | nsadmin | it's not bad... for example the templating system allows you to have a programmer separate from a graphic designer... you teach the designer (who knows html) a few tags and how to read a data source comment and then he can make your data look any way he wants... look at the demo off this page: http://openacs.org/doc/acs-templating/ |
| 14:08.56 | linkedinu | only mine :) |
| 14:09.06 | nsadmin | oh shoot, he's gone? |
| 14:09.12 | gyaresu | linkedinu: I don't know if you have any domain names you've purchased but you can easily run multiple websites on the same server. If that's something you're interested in. I can help you out with that but you need to know how to load modules in apache and bring the sites up and down. |
| 14:09.37 | threex | can somebody help me..? |
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| 14:09.52 | linkedinu | gyaresu, I DO HAVE many domains like 10 and about 30 ips |
| 14:10.03 | gyaresu | linkedinu: a2ensite and a2dissite will 'en'able a site or 'dis'able a site. Same as a2enmod loads apache modules like 'rewrite' or a2dismod to disable. |
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| 14:10.14 | linkedinu | gyaresu, but do not know how to use it |
| 14:10.27 | nsadmin | threex, that's most of what the touchpad does... what else did you want? |
| 14:10.35 | gyaresu | linkedinu: Then you'll want to do name based virtual hosts and you do that by having individual files in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ |
| 14:11.50 | threex | nsadmin: i used to click with my touchpad....but now it wouldnt respond... |
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| 14:12.11 | linkedinu | gyaresu, brb wait please |
| 14:13.07 | nsadmin | threex. what amount of time between "i used to click with my touchpad" and "it wouldnt respond"? |
| 14:13.49 | bjorn_248 | anyone have any idea why I would have an empty dmesg? |
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| 14:15.33 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: nope. Is it there? $ which dmesg |
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| 14:16.05 | bjorn_248 | /bin/dmesg |
| 14:16.44 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: and which version of Debian? |
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| 14:17.12 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: I'm asking these obvious questions because it totally should be working :) |
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| 14:18.11 | bjorn_248 | debian 6 |
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| 14:19.33 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: bjorn_248 ok so it's not aliased. |
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| 14:20.14 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: what do you get when you run it. Just returns to the prompt? |
| 14:20.23 | bjorn_248 | /var/log/dmesg is empty |
| 14:20.29 | bjorn_248 | and yes, nothing is printed |
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| 14:21.43 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: I don't know enough about how the kernel writes to /var/log/dmesg but have you done something custom with the kernel perhaps? |
| 14:21.57 | bjorn_248 | nope lol |
| 14:22.04 | nsadmin | threex. still here? what amount of time between "i used to click with my touchpad" and "it wouldnt respond"? |
| 14:22.45 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: and you're running this as root? (shouldn't matter) |
| 14:22.53 | bjorn_248 | yes |
| 14:23.11 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: Ok, that's weird. |
| 14:23.17 | bjorn_248 | yeah it is |
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| 14:24.13 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: Virtual server by any chance? |
| 14:24.20 | bjorn_248 | yeah |
| 14:24.24 | gyaresu | mmmm |
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| 14:25.07 | nsadmin | anything in /var/log/dmesg? |
| 14:25.11 | bjorn_248 | nope |
| 14:25.25 | bjorn_248 | already said there wasn't :) |
| 14:25.41 | nsadmin | uname -r says? |
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| 14:25.59 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: You didn't run dmesg -c by any chance? |
| 14:26.08 | bjorn_248 | hmm, could be a custom kernel after all, but the vps provider must be doing that |
| 14:26.09 | bjorn_248 | 2.6.32-274.7.1.el5.028stab095.1 |
| 14:26.17 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: Ignore that. Wouldn't wipe out /var/log/dmesg |
| 14:26.53 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: Yeah, they usually do. Can't remember a kernel option that doesn't write out ringbuffer though. |
| 14:27.41 | gyaresu | bjorn_248: You don't have any /var/log/dmesg.random_name files or something by any chance? |
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| 14:28.16 | nsadmin | bjorn_248, is there a matching config- and vmlinux- in /boot? |
| 14:28.22 | jason____ | i got a unique situation with mdadm/mount/fsck/diaster..... |
| 14:28.54 | nsadmin | I only have unique situations with disaster... |
| 14:28.58 | gyaresu | jason____: Unique for who? I'm sure some of us have been there. |
| 14:28.59 | jason____ | mount keeps hanging, because of bad filesystem, i can't fsck because it's in use, yet it's not mounted... |
| 14:29.20 | gyaresu | jason____: Live-cd fix? |
| 14:29.22 | jason____ | and i can't stop /dev/md0, because it thinks it's still mounted, lsof prints out nothing related to the mount.. |
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| 14:29.36 | gyaresu | jason____: RAID? |
| 14:29.41 | gyaresu | jason____: What type? |
| 14:29.51 | jason____ | i added new devices to md0, (5), but they keep going as spares, |
| 14:29.56 | jason____ | 5, as raid5 |
| 14:29.59 | jason____ | not 5 devices |
| 14:30.40 | nsadmin | what kinda stuff you running with your raid5? |
| 14:30.41 | gyaresu | jason____: Mkay, so you've not brought the machine down yet? |
| 14:31.08 | bjorn_248 | nsadmin, there is nothing in /boot/ |
| 14:31.23 | jason____ | no no, not yet. nsaadmin, nothing important, i've been experimetning with usb pen drives, before i buy serious TB disks, and finally something puked and i'm trying to go intelligently about this |
| 14:31.35 | nsadmin | hmm. it's a good chance your provider don't want you to know nuthin |
| 14:31.53 | gyaresu | wait. these are usb pen drives? |
| 14:31.58 | jason____ | yeah, why not? |
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| 14:32.15 | nsadmin | there;s not aa in nsadmin :) |
| 14:32.26 | gyaresu | jason____: Just trying to get, you'know. Like. INFORMATION. So we can, you'know. Like maybe help you. :) |
| 14:32.29 | jason____ | nsadmin, i was getting pissed with tab auto complete |
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| 14:32.52 | nsadmin | yeah, wish that would work like the shell |
| 14:32.54 | gyaresu | jason____: what fs? |
| 14:33.13 | jason____ | gyaresu, alright, two devices are 8gb eide with raid0, md1, which is in part of md0 with 4 other 16gb pen drives. |
| 14:33.23 | bjorn_248 | I do have a few .gz files gyaresu, but extracting them just leads to more empty files |
| 14:33.24 | jason____ | ext4 |
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| 14:33.36 | bjorn_248 | e.g. dmesg.1.gz |
| 14:34.02 | gyaresu | Ok. And what are you wanting to recover? Everything? Or is this purely academic? |
| 14:34.04 | nsadmin | ohh, you can zless those : |
| 14:34.06 | gyaresu | Just out of interest. |
| 14:34.17 | jason____ | just out of interest if this is possible. but things got weird. |
| 14:34.24 | gyaresu | sweet |
| 14:34.32 | jason____ | shells keep hanging, stuff doesn't respond, kernel goes beserk when trying to fire up md0 |
| 14:34.46 | jason____ | but surprisingly nothing has locked up yet. |
| 14:34.48 | nsadmin | swapping? |
| 14:35.11 | jason____ | so i'm stuck, i have 4 mount pid's running, and i can't kill them for some reason. |
| 14:35.33 | gyaresu | jason____: So. My immediate idea is to just crash the system and fix this with a livecd. |
| 14:35.47 | jason____ | hm, well, the raid devices don't hold the OS itself. |
| 14:36.11 | gyaresu | jason____: So. You don't need the os. You just need to fix the file system. |
| 14:36.24 | jason____ | i was trying without rebooting, but i guess cheating is ok :) |
| 14:36.29 | gyaresu | Which is probably a fubared drive. Got any smart warnings? |
| 14:36.39 | jason____ | shrugs. pen drives have smart? |
| 14:36.43 | jason____ | haha |
| 14:36.59 | jason____ | i made a quick goofy torrent box with raid5 from a drawer full of pen drives. |
| 14:37.32 | jason____ | the devices that failed were pen drives. i know that for sure. |
| 14:38.04 | jason____ | and i've kickd them out, and tried to readd without wiping superblock ,but it kept complaining that it was already part of an array ( which was i trying to insert it into) |
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| 14:38.34 | jason____ | it might be a lost cause. guess i'll reboot and see what happens. |
| 14:38.40 | gyaresu | jason____: Yup. |
| 14:39.09 | gyaresu | jason____: I'd be inclined to rescue the lot from livecd. That's more achievable and good fun too. |
| 14:39.13 | jason____ | DOH< i just shutdown -r now in the wrong window to the wrong box... |
| 14:39.38 | jason____ | i'll see what a reboot does. |
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| 14:39.56 | cusco_ | jason____: I use different bash coulored prompts do identify what kind of box I'm at |
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| 14:40.41 | netsrot | Hi, how is a good way to kill X? I tried killall xinit which used to work but now I get no signal on the monitor. |
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| 14:41.56 | netsrot | I'm using ati foss drivers and is there any way to recover from that? |
| 14:42.00 | gyaresu | netsrot: stop the server? /etc/init.d/x11 (whatever it's called now) stop |
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| 14:42.47 | gyaresu | !tell netsrot ati |
| 14:42.53 | gyaresu | hmmm |
| 14:43.07 | nsadmin | about |
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| 14:43.35 | nsadmin | or, |
| 14:43.54 | gyaresu | !tell netsrot about ati |
| 14:44.00 | gyaresu | nsadmin: :) |
| 14:44.11 | gyaresu | what's the x11 service called? |
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| 14:44.24 | nsadmin | a gooder way: |
| 14:44.24 | gyaresu | x11-server... (damn, my momory) |
| 14:44.50 | nsadmin | netsrot, /msg dpkg ati |
| 14:44.56 | netsrot | I only have x11-common as init script |
| 14:45.09 | netsrot | that starts with x |
| 14:45.15 | engla | gdm? |
| 14:45.23 | netsrot | nope |
| 14:45.27 | nsadmin | you can only have one momory... and she'll have one momory... and so on, and so on, and so on... |
| 14:45.28 | netsrot | I use startx |
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| 14:45.47 | gyaresu | netsrot: That's just a shorthand to start the X11 server |
| 14:45.58 | engla | why not kill X |
| 14:46.08 | gyaresu | gdm xdm kdm is the desktop manager. |
| 14:46.09 | nsadmin | netsrot, take a look at your .xsession |
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| 14:46.59 | netsrot | ah it does exec openbox, it should exec openbox-session? |
| 14:47.03 | jason____ | hm, reboot didn't automount my arrays... |
| 14:47.06 | jason____ | no md0 or md1 |
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| 14:49.39 | ArmOrAttAk | hi #debian-overflow |
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| 14:50.06 | hke | gyaresu: {x,g,d}dm is actually the display manager |
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| 14:50.39 | gyaresu | engla: hke I was just going to say that it looks like using ?dm restart would do the job :) |
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| 14:50.53 | gyaresu | Shows how long since I've had a linux desktop :) |
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| 14:50.59 | ArmOrAttAk | can somebody explain to me why debian wants to removes all my kde packages when i type apt-get install libav-tools |
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| 14:52.27 | nsadmin | !frankendebian |
| 14:52.27 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince #linux to help. |
| 14:52.28 | engla | ArmOrAttAk: maybe aptitude can explain it better |
| 14:52.40 | hke | ArmOrAttAk: probably because one of your pkges to be installed conflicts with one of the pkgs libav-tools depends on |
| 14:53.03 | engla | for example a deb-multimedia package |
| 14:53.20 | jason____ | how can i print out alternatve sueprblocks from a file system? |
| 14:53.22 | jason____ | with fsck? |
| 14:53.24 | rozie | nsadmin: don't make such a drama |
| 14:54.14 | rozie | I switched to pure unstable from frankendebian and frankendebian generated less problems |
| 14:54.58 | nsadmin | you usually can't escape from frankendebian... |
| 14:55.08 | gyaresu | gets popcorn for unfolding season premierre of 'FrankenDebian!' |
| 14:55.23 | nsadmin | it;s aliiiiiiiive! |
| 14:55.24 | rozie | nsadmin: why not? |
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| 14:56.28 | gyaresu | waits for classic retort of "just cause" |
| 14:56.41 | jason____ | what's next if dumpe2fck won't regonize file system? |
| 14:56.51 | nsadmin | it's random... I don't know for all cases |
| 14:57.09 | gyaresu | jason____: photorec |
| 14:57.15 | jason____ | photorec? |
| 14:57.17 | ArmOrAttAk | thanks, any suggestions for fixing this situation? |
| 14:57.25 | gyaresu | jason____: The bomb in file recovery |
| 14:57.27 | rozie | gyaresu: wrong. copy of filesystem to a file first |
| 14:57.30 | jason____ | hmm. |
| 14:57.56 | gyaresu | rozie: pft. Ask him what he's fried. |
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| 14:58.44 | gyaresu | And don't get me started. Grandpa has SOOOO many stories of disaster recovery. You see, when I was a boy... |
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| 14:59.13 | netsrot | engla: when I kill x I get no signal on monitor and keyboard doesn't even work, I tried sys_rq alt r but it didn't help. I am able to remote it using ssh but don't know how to recover without a reboot. |
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| 15:00.54 | rozie | netsrot: what do you mean 'recover'? if you want just to restart X, /etc/init.d/kdm restart (or gdm, or what you use) should do the trick |
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| 15:01.17 | rozie | of course all programs using X will be closed |
| 15:01.23 | netsrot | rozie: I don't have a *dm init script. |
| 15:01.42 | nsadmin | netsrot, take a look at your .xsession |
| 15:01.59 | netsrot | nsadmin: it only starts exec openbox-session |
| 15:02.37 | rozie | netsrot: what is your login manager(? not sure if this is right name for kdm/gdm) |
| 15:02.53 | engla | netsrot: if you kill your session, X should quit right? |
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| 15:03.41 | nsadmin | ok, so: if you can quit from openbox (since it's what is execed from .xsession, it is the session controller), x will quit too becasue it's waiting for the session controller to die or exit |
| 15:04.05 | jason____ | alright, now what is one to do if i can't mount because of bad filesystem, can't check filesystem becasue of bad superblocks, and now i can't even mkfs because md0 is reported as size of zero!?? |
| 15:05.22 | rozie | jason____: do you have a backup? |
| 15:05.50 | jason____ | rozie, i'll just download the stuff again |
| 15:05.52 | jason____ | just iso's |
| 15:06.01 | jason____ | i'm confused why i can't make a filesystem |
| 15:06.17 | rozie | probably some hardware issues |
| 15:06.21 | rozie | did you check SMART? |
| 15:06.29 | jason____ | no errors |
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| 15:07.46 | netsrot | nsadmin: I also tried killing openbox-session but it was the same thing as killall xinit, when I remote to the machine it doesn't have any X processes running and keyboard not responding and monitor no signal. |
| 15:08.22 | nsadmin | wait, what gets execed? |
| 15:08.28 | nsadmin | openbox? |
| 15:08.39 | jason____ | mdadm keeps staying sdd has invalid superblock, no smart errors. |
| 15:09.00 | nsadmin | sure enough... openbox-session |
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| 15:10.14 | nsadmin | does openbox have a quit command of some kind, like filemenu->quit? |
| 15:10.16 | gyaresu | Superblock is first 512kb yeah. Boot sector? |
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| 15:11.04 | netsrot | nsadmin: yes the exit button worked =) |
| 15:11.26 | nsadmin | cool, would that be what you wanted? |
| 15:11.59 | netsrot | yes thank you. |
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| 15:13.49 | nsadmin | so the .xsession can be more complex, starting various clients (in the -background- so it's -not- the session controller) then the last client you would start should be execed because X is waiting for that process to die |
| 15:13.57 | reavengrey | ewvAS? |
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| 15:15.36 | netsrot | nsadmin: there was no x process running when I killed it and still no keyboard and monitor, still doesn't makes sens to me but it's working the way I like it now. |
| 15:17.05 | nsadmin | great :) |
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| 15:23.12 | jason____ | do i use grow to bring a spare actively into the array? |
| 15:23.20 | gyaresu_iphone | Ok well it's quiet in here. Conversation starter: why is there no nodejs package for Debian . |
| 15:23.41 | ompaul | ryan-c: we don't do conversation here try #debian-offtopic |
| 15:23.51 | ompaul | woops bad tabbing |
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| 15:24.00 | gyaresu_iphone | jason____: It's been a whole but that doesn't sound right |
| 15:24.07 | ompaul | gyaresu_iphone: : we don't do conversation here try #debian-offtopic |
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| 15:24.52 | gyaresu_iphone | ompaul: :) really? Not even when it's quiet and I'm being ever so helpful ;) np |
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| 15:26.49 | ompaul | jason____: I didn't test but it looks ok http://www.shainmiley.com/wordpress/2012/01/17/mdadm-cheat-sheet/ |
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| 15:27.29 | gyaresu_iphone | jason____: You are correct https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Growing |
| 15:27.48 | ompaul | gyaresu_iphone: a one line answer http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611698 |
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| 15:28.11 | jason____ | since everything puked and i'm starting clean, i'm going to experiment with raid5 with 4 devices, make fs, grow to 5 devices, expand fs, check fs. |
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| 15:28.13 | jason____ | see how this turns out. |
| 15:28.15 | ompaul | gyaresu_iphone: it's too new to have made it into squeeze aiui |
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| 15:28.47 | ompaul | jason____: was it caused by a software failure or disk dying? |
| 15:29.18 | gyaresu_iphone | ompaul: Well I'm sorry but you've fed the disruptive troll and now you must kick-ban yourself ;) |
| 15:29.30 | gyaresu_iphone | ompaul: And thanks :) |
| 15:29.52 | ompaul | gyaresu_iphone: if only I had the power I would be so gone :) |
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| 15:30.04 | jason____ | ompaul, not sure, i woke up one day and stuff was complaining of writing, discoverd two drives puked out and array failed. i tried to save it. so i just wiped it all, making a new array, new uid, new superblock, and going to see if making the filesystem works as should. |
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| 15:30.40 | jason____ | and i'm going to dump the superblocks from the ext4 fs before anything gets written and keep them soemwhere incase something happens |
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| 15:30.55 | jason____ | mind you i'm using all the same identical disks....so problem might reoccure. |
| 15:31.16 | ompaul | jason____: well at least change the order of them |
| 15:31.23 | ompaul | jason____: physically |
| 15:31.28 | gyaresu_iphone | jason____: I am so dodgy on you raid of flash drives. Its just so, so, something that I would do just to see if I could get away with it :) |
| 15:31.45 | jason____ | gyaresu_iphone, i didn't feel like spending money |
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| 15:32.08 | jason____ | i had to dremel the pen drives skinnier so they'll stuff in the usb ports side by side |
| 15:32.10 | gyaresu_iphone | Frankenraid |
| 15:32.26 | gyaresu_iphone | SEE SEE!!!!11! |
| 15:32.39 | jason____ | haha. i love free hardware. sky is the limit. |
| 15:33.17 | gyaresu_iphone | Just say that dremelling line out loud to yourself a couple of times and not giggle. |
| 15:33.22 | gyaresu_iphone | I dare you |
| 15:33.38 | jason____ | it's hard to not do. |
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| 15:34.11 | jason____ | i got a paycheck lined up for 5x2tb drives....wanna get my feel for mdadm on throw away pendrives and useless data before i get an 8tb array 1/2 full.... |
| 15:35.09 | gyaresu_iphone | I've recovered from multiple drive failures with raid 6 on a Debian home server |
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| 15:35.41 | gyaresu_iphone | Booted up to grml and figured it out |
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| 15:36.26 | gyaresu_iphone | jason____: I think you're doing it the right way. I mean you 'want' drives to fail. |
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| 15:36.51 | jason9537 | does anyone know of a more up to date guide on patching/packaging the debian kernel? the kernel-handbook seems to be out of date (for wheezy anyway) |
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| 15:37.02 | jason____ | yeah, i'm honestly leaning towards raid6...raid5 seems pointless with such large drives taking days to recover, a huge risk of another fatigued drive to puke |
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| 15:37.45 | jason____ | gyaresu_iphone, that's why i picked pen drives, wear leveling should show it face soon... |
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| 15:38.06 | jason____ | espeically with rtorrent running with 10,000 ocnnections on 20 open torrents... |
| 15:38.35 | gyaresu_iphone | jason____: It's been a while since I've researched but I don't think so. |
| 15:38.46 | ptrkmj | i need a version of usb-modeswitch from squeeze-backports to get my 3g mobile internet connection running. i'll download debs with web browser from other PC but how do i install them? directly with dpkg? |
| 15:38.54 | Woet | I know linux by default uses RAM for writecache, but some applications force it to write to the disk. Is it possible to dedicate a large part of the RAM (let's say 16 GB) and use it as a write cache which makes the application think it's a disk? |
| 15:39.00 | jason____ | gyaresu_iphone, dont' think so what? |
| 15:39.12 | gyaresu_iphone | Even the shitty chips in them don't matter. I think the kernel has got better but I'm often wrong |
| 15:39.33 | jason____ | you don't think i can kill a pen drive? |
| 15:39.37 | gyaresu_iphone | jason____: Wear on repeat writes |
| 15:40.09 | gyaresu_iphone | jason____: I have a small shell script that can do it but I seem to remember some smarter software |
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| 15:41.13 | ompaul | Woet: you want a ramcache? |
| 15:41.14 | jason____ | gyaresu_iphone, i'd rather kill them by using them usefully in a real world scenario, not wastefully kiling them....if there's a difference... |
| 15:41.19 | Woet | ompaul: yes |
| 15:41.26 | gyaresu_iphone | ptrkmj: Yep. Or I seem to remember putting them in the cache so apt just finds them |
| 15:41.46 | ompaul | Woet: as long as your ram is good it should be good - hope you have a good backup setup |
| 15:42.04 | Woet | ompaul: yes and yes, but I'm still not sure how to set it up |
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| 15:42.54 | xeon-enouf | Woet: tmpfs? |
| 15:43.12 | Woet | xeon-enouf: I know how to create a RAM disk, but I'm not sure how to configure it as write cache |
| 15:43.16 | xeon-enouf | or, create/load a dedicated ramdisk on boot |
| 15:43.31 | xeon-enouf | it == ? |
| 15:43.43 | gyaresu_iphone | ptrkmj: You can backup all your packages that way as well. For the wonders of reinstalling. Oh the things we do for dialup. |
| 15:43.43 | Woet | xeon-enouf: applications writes 8 GB file, goes to RAM, RAM is being written to disk and erased at the same time |
| 15:43.55 | xeon-enouf | apps suck ass? ;-) |
| 15:44.14 | Woet | xeon-enouf: it should not be a tmpfs or a ramdisk, but write cache. |
| 15:44.34 | xeon-enouf | writecache sounds like a winnows term to me |
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| 15:44.45 | zazzero_93 | ciao |
| 15:44.50 | Woet | xeon-enouf: it's not. |
| 15:44.50 | zazzero_93 | !list |
| 15:44.51 | dpkg | zazzero_93: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
| 15:45.08 | xeon-enouf | if you use winnows compatible apps, expect winnows behaviour |
| 15:45.16 | Woet | xeon-enouf: it has nothing to do with windows... |
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| 15:45.37 | xeon-enouf | misunderstands then; sowwy |
| 15:46.07 | phogg | Woet: familiar with bcache? It's not mainline yet IIRC, but sounds like your kind of thing |
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| 15:46.21 | Woet | phogg: I did use it before, let me look into it again |
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| 15:46.32 | Woet | yes, that's what I'm looking for :) thanks |
| 15:46.41 | ompaul | Woet: is this any use? mkdir /mnt/ram/ ; mount -t tmpfs tmp /mnt/tmp |
| 15:46.41 | jason9537 | I was under the impression bcache depended on a persistent cache device |
| 15:46.41 | Woet | ompaul: no, that's a ram DISK |
| 15:46.43 | phogg | Woet: https://lwn.net/Articles/497024/ |
| 15:46.43 | Woet | ram disk * |
| 15:46.50 | ompaul | ah then I got you wrong |
| 15:46.53 | ompaul | good then |
| 15:47.12 | martianlobster | I am reading about cpu organization, and this document says that there should be a file /dev/cpuset. I just checked 3 debian systems, and non of them have that file? Is there another file that serves the same purpose as /dev/cpuset on debian systems? http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man7/cpuset.7.html |
| 15:47.16 | jason9537 | it might not appreciate losing the cache device every boot |
| 15:47.19 | MO_Handes | I have just installe kde-full on Debian but I messed up with it. now how can I reset all configuration to defaults? |
| 15:47.19 | jason9537 | I could be wrong. |
| 15:47.37 | xeon-enouf | ofcourse; and so would Sun's L2ARC |
| 15:48.04 | xeon-enouf | ZFS stuffs |
| 15:48.27 | gyaresu_iphone | MO_Handes: Backup the packages and nuke from orbit? |
| 15:48.39 | xeon-enouf | have we made any/more progress? how's btrfs coming along? |
| 15:48.45 | MO_Handes | gyaresu_iphone, huh?! |
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| 15:49.11 | ompaul | MO_Handes: kde or users home directories - remember users home directories are created from /etc/skel |
| 15:49.25 | themill | dpkg: tell MO_Handes about cross-post |
| 15:49.29 | gyaresu_iphone | MO_Handes: Sorry, aliens reference. If you've only just installed do it again. |
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| 15:49.42 | engla | xeon-enouf: debian wheezy will be without stable btrfs that's for sure since it's always in development |
| 15:50.27 | xeon-enouf | Woet: FWIW; and IINM the author of bcache frequents #kernelnewbies on irc..... dang, forgot which Network :-p |
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| 15:50.54 | xeon-enouf | engla: ok - some info - thanks |
| 15:51.37 | xeon-enouf | Woet: i believe the nick is py1hon or simila |
| 15:52.01 | Woet | xeon-enouf: #bcache on OFTC according to wiki |
| 15:52.19 | xeon-enouf | wunderous and .. wonderful ;-) |
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| 15:53.06 | xeon-enouf | got his own channel i guess; i recall him running into issues when attempting to integrate with lvm2, etc |
| 15:53.14 | debusr | hi guys where I can find the default sources.list file for squeeze (stable) ? |
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| 15:53.24 | xeon-enouf | !mirrors |
| 15:53.25 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <geo sources.list>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:53.27 | themill | debusr: there isn't one. /msg dpkg make squeeze sources.list |
| 15:54.11 | debusr | themill, hmm i mean the default repositories that the installation creates |
| 15:54.19 | themill | debusr: there isn't one. /msg dpkg make squeeze sources.list |
| 15:54.44 | xeon-enouf | you bot :-p |
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| 15:55.03 | debusr | themill, i have 404 error in my: Err http://http.us.debian.org squeeze/updates/main Sources |
| 15:55.03 | debusr | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.03 | debusr | W: Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/updates/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found |
| 15:55.20 | debusr | the src repo for the squeeze main updates (source)! |
| 15:55.32 | themill | dpkg: tell debusr about make squeeze sources.list |
| 15:55.36 | themill | seriously.... |
| 15:55.44 | themill | debusr: that repo doesn't exist |
| 15:55.55 | debusr | themill, i have got the answer from the bot |
| 15:55.58 | xeon-enouf | debusr: ls /sys/class/net ...oh, hehe |
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| 15:56.42 | xeon-enouf | :~$ ping -c2 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/updates/main/source/Sources.gz |
| 15:56.43 | MO_Handes | sorry about the cross-posting, and I'm know on Debian-KDE, and only on this channel, now I want to know how to enable mouse tapping in KDE? |
| 15:56.45 | debusr | xeon-enouf, eth0 lo pan0 |
| 15:56.46 | xeon-enouf | ping: unknown host http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/updates/main/source/Sources.gz |
| 15:57.01 | xeon-enouf | debusr: you did it wrong as themill mentioned |
| 15:57.15 | debusr | xeon-enouf, i have not touched my sources list :( |
| 15:57.30 | xeon-enouf | !touch sources.list |
| 15:57.34 | xeon-enouf | :p |
| 15:57.37 | debusr | lol |
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| 15:58.11 | debusr | i must replace the htttp.us... with deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates mai ? |
| 15:58.12 | themill | debusr: umm... « i have not touched my sources list :(» is utter crap. You were frigging with it yesterday and we had this problem solved yesterday. |
| 15:58.32 | themill | how about doing what the bot said? Or what you were told yesterday? |
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| 15:58.57 | xeon-enouf | MO_Handes: there exists a #debian-kde channel, or did, (somewhere) but it might be a "devel" channel |
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| 15:59.17 | xeon-enouf | hahaha |
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| 15:59.33 | ech0 | hi |
| 16:00.12 | gyaresu_iphone | themill: Y U BRAKE! |
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| 16:00.46 | craigevil | xeon-enouf, #debian-kde is on oftc |
| 16:01.09 | gyaresu_iphone | ech0: Welcome. Please have a difficult Debian problem for us to solve. |
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| 16:01.19 | themill | MO_Handes: echo -e "#!/bin/sh\nsynclient TapButton1=1" > ~/.kde/Autostart/synaptics; chmod a+x ~/.kde/Autostart/synaptics |
| 16:01.38 | MO_Handes | themill, ty |
| 16:01.49 | ech0 | problem with debian? never.. |
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| 16:05.06 | gyaresu_iphone | I never did get around to solving sftp on /var/www for one user. While still allowing two other users to write to it because a chroot must have root ownership. How about that little pickle? |
| 16:06.41 | ech0 | maybe a group? |
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| 16:16.39 | intore | hi, which is the way to know the internet service provider of my internet connection? |
| 16:17.09 | abrotman | do a whois on your external IP |
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| 16:17.40 | MO_Handes | why my bottom panel looks like this? http://postimage.org/image/jqzy0m2xp/ |
| 16:18.32 | themill | MO_Handes: looks like transparency and your background wallpaper showing through. |
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| 16:20.28 | MO_Handes | themill, changed the wallpaper and the problem remains the same, the right side of the pannel looks ok, any solution?! |
| 16:21.28 | reavengrey | I don't think it's the wallpaper... |
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| 16:22.50 | abrotman | MO_Handes: you changed it during this session? |
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| 16:23.44 | craigevil | MO_Handes, had something similar to that when I upgraded to 4.8.3, it was an activities widget causing things to overlap, removed it and problem was solved |
| 16:23.59 | MO_Handes | abrotman, no, I just removed ~/.kde and logged in to KDE, and it looked like this from the beginning |
| 16:24.41 | MO_Handes | craigevil, what was the package name? |
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| 16:25.42 | craigevil | wasnt a package it was an activities widget? causing the taskbar to overlap the left side, right click removed it |
| 16:25.59 | Cyclohexane | when your ssh session times out does the process automatically kill itself *after a certain time period*? |
| 16:26.22 | gyaresu_iphone | Yes |
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| 16:26.41 | MO_Handes | craigevil, sorry I'm new to kde, where to right click? |
| 16:26.47 | _DomY-Dom | Hello http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22516/ unsure what to do can someone help please ? |
| 16:26.50 | craigevil | MO_Handes, this is the problem I had, http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3272/snapshot9.png see the left side |
| 16:27.11 | gyaresu_iphone | Cyclohexane: Run htop and watch as you disconnect |
| 16:27.40 | Cyclohexane | how long is the time period then? sometimes i log back in and the ssh process is still running from before |
| 16:27.41 | themill | !show sources.list _DomY-Dom |
| 16:27.42 | dpkg | _DomY-Dom: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
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| 16:28.30 | _DomY-Dom | ok thanks for your help themill and dpkg, give me a second |
| 16:28.55 | craigevil | MO_Handes, i kept right clicking on the panel on the left side until i found what didnt belong, in my case it was an activities widget? |
| 16:31.57 | MO_Handes | there's nothing to remove :-?? theres the launcher, desktop switcher, task manager and tray |
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| 16:33.49 | craigevil | MO_Handes, see this http://siduction.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2258 the post by hefee |
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| 16:35.04 | everythingWorks | is there a shortkey combo to switch between workspaces? |
| 16:36.07 | abrotman | in what? |
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| 16:36.16 | xeon-enouf | so; --> find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; | curl -F "sprunge=<-" http://sprunge.us |
| 16:36.30 | everythingWorks | abrotman: in debian?^^ |
| 16:36.34 | ksuhku | lol |
| 16:36.44 | xand | everythingWorks: in what desktop environment |
| 16:36.46 | abrotman | everythingWorks: CLI? Gnome? KDE? |
| 16:36.48 | everythingWorks | gnome |
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| 16:36.54 | abrotman | everythingWorks: 2? 3? |
| 16:36.57 | xand | you can configure it |
| 16:36.59 | everythingWorks | 2 |
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| 16:37.09 | everythingWorks | its the default i think, anyway |
| 16:37.10 | xand | everythingWorks: go to the keyboard shortcut settings to see what they are/set them |
| 16:37.23 | abrotman | everythingWorks: you configure it in your keyboard shortcuts .. i think the default is alt-#, but i can't recall |
| 16:37.32 | abrotman | wait, ctrl-# |
| 16:37.33 | abrotman | ? |
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| 16:37.59 | everythingWorks | nothing happens if i press this |
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| 16:38.16 | gyaresu_iphone | Sorry Cyclohexane I'm on my phone. But sshd is a service... |
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| 16:38.40 | xeon-enouf | keyboards are extremely borken'd |
| 16:39.30 | abrotman | everythingWorks: so configure it |
| 16:39.55 | everythingWorks | o0? |
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| 16:40.07 | everythingWorks | I just said nothing happens when pressing this. |
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| 16:40.26 | ksuhku | so try another key combo as suggested |
| 16:40.37 | abrotman | everythingWorks: configure it to be a key combo you know .. |
| 16:40.38 | everythingWorks | tried all :p |
| 16:40.47 | xeon-enouf | everythingWorks: irc,gnome.org ?? |
| 16:41.04 | abrotman | it's gnome2, they won't care, just like #kde doesn't care about kde3 |
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| 16:41.15 | xeon-enouf | heh |
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| 16:41.56 | xeon-enouf | and #xorg and #apache care less about deb pkgs :-pp |
| 16:42.07 | abrotman | and he ran off .. |
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| 16:42.18 | xeon-enouf | !run away |
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| 16:45.53 | Lymia | U-Umm... |
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| 16:46.00 | Lymia | What's up with the Wheezy install DVD? |
| 16:46.20 | Lymia | For some reason, I had to set APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "true"; and replace the cdrom:[] url with an file: one to get it to install at all. |
| 16:46.31 | Lymia | (in apt/sources.list) |
| 16:47.04 | abrotman | it's meant to test the installer, not install testing .. did you report your bugs? |
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| 16:47.58 | Lymia | abrotman: that explain it. |
| 16:47.58 | Lymia | Eh. |
| 16:48.11 | Lymia | I'm going to run it again in a VM once it's actually installed to determine the exact thing, I think. |
| 16:48.19 | Lymia | i.e. get the actual logs |
| 16:48.48 | Lymia | IIRC, during 'installing base system', it complained about using apt-cdrom instead of apt-get update for cdrom installs. |
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| 16:51.00 | Lymia | abrotman: through what channel would I report such bugs? |
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| 16:52.24 | abrotman | Lymia: you can use 'reportbug' against the debian-installer pseudopackage IIRC |
| 16:52.53 | abrotman | Lymia: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages .. sorry installation-reports |
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| 16:55.17 | Lymia | abrotman: Thanks. |
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| 16:55.35 | Lymia | I'll go run it again in a VM once I get the system fully up, and, get some actual data on it. |
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| 17:04.34 | _DomY-Dom | dpkg sorry for replying so late but here is the output of the file http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22518/ |
| 17:04.35 | dpkg | that's too long, _DomY-Dom |
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| 17:04.51 | _DomY-Dom | ? |
| 17:05.47 | haoyihuan | My chroot error seems to be caused by my fault opration "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /media/documents dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_6.0squeeze4_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.22_amd64.deb" |
| 17:06.50 | haoyihuan | Reason is my directory /media/documents is on a NTFS filesystem. |
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| 17:07.20 | hkais | hello all |
| 17:08.01 | hkais | is there a way to limit the visibility o f nfs exports? |
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| 17:08.35 | xand | hkais: limit how? |
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| 17:09.38 | haoyihuan | Thanks for kiyop's help and so on . |
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| 17:09.48 | hkais | to display only the exports for one user, which should see the export. e.g. I have the exports exuser1, exuser2, exuser3 and user1 should only see exuser1 and not exuser2 and not exuser3, user2 onyl exuser2 ... |
| 17:10.07 | xand | no then |
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| 17:11.12 | hkais | xand: what are the other options? |
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| 17:26.35 | themill | _DomY-Dom: did you fully complete lenny->squeeze on that box? (you still have some left over lenny sources.list lines there.) What's the output of "aptitude search ~U" |
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| 17:29.03 | b4h4 | hello, why aptitude update says i should install fix for apache2.2-bin, but i did not choose web server role when install system? |
| 17:29.35 | _DomY-Dom | @themill http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22519/ |
| 17:30.19 | tharkun | !tell _DomY-Dom @ |
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| 17:30.47 | tharkun | !@ |
| 17:30.47 | dpkg | @ is used to separate the username from the hostname in an email address, to denote channel operators on IRC, and to direct comments to particular users in some web forums. It is NOT used to direct comments on IRC; use "name: ..." instead of "@name ...". |
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| 17:32.12 | themill | _DomY-Dom: what does "aptitude full-upgrade" want to do? |
| 17:32.48 | themill | b4h4: apache2.2-bin is used as a document search/indexer thing by some desktop environments like gnome |
| 17:33.59 | _DomY-Dom | themill: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22520/ |
| 17:35.01 | themill | _DomY-Dom: sounds good -- do it |
| 17:35.13 | reavengrey | lol |
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| 17:36.26 | _DomY-Dom | themill: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22521/ didn't end up being so good.. |
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| 17:36.48 | b4h4 | themill, so it have installes because i choose Graphical desktop environment, in other words it a member of the gnome? |
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| 17:37.56 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: apt-get update && aptitude full-upgrade |
| 17:38.23 | reavengrey | lol |
| 17:38.36 | ompaul | !lol |
| 17:38.36 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 17:38.39 | themill | _DomY-Dom: where is this "teamspeak3" package from? its init script is crap |
| 17:39.11 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: didn't work… http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22522/ |
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| 17:39.34 | _DomY-Dom | themill: In fact, I have no clue, I just finished exams, my coadmin mut have installed it for some reason |
| 17:39.50 | _DomY-Dom | themill: not sure where to remove it from though, don't think that's what its name is |
| 17:39.58 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: your repos are a mess - pastebin the following please /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:40.31 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22523/ |
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| 17:41.04 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: that does not explain the previous paste |
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| 17:41.30 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: the previous one indictated lenny lines present |
| 17:41.57 | themill | ompaul: scrollback... |
| 17:42.11 | ompaul | deb http://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge contrib deb http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository sarge contrib |
| 17:42.24 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: they will never work |
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| 17:42.57 | ompaul | themill: yeah I'm scratching my head there is a lot of other stuff in there that shouldn't be there |
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| 17:43.23 | po_taka | how to allow echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile for non-root user ? |
| 17:43.23 | po_taka | file permission changes after each reboot ? |
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| 17:43.25 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: the multimedia stuff shouldn't be there |
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| 17:43.33 | themill | sure. there's also sources.list.d/lenny.non-free.list. (just a lenny->squeeze that wasn't finished properly) |
| 17:43.53 | themill | ompaul: but the lsb headers are all that's an actual issue now |
| 17:44.05 | ompaul | themill: ah |
| 17:45.48 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: I don't have a lot of time, however http://mirror.ovh.net/debian/ and your first lines match each other you can do without one of them |
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| 17:46.42 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: you also appear to have a ftp://ftp.us.debian.org lenny in there no lenny should be in place yet |
| 17:46.48 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: you also appear to have a ftp://ftp.us.debian.org lenny in there no lenny should be in place sorry now |
| 17:47.01 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: ok? |
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| 17:47.43 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: not sure what i'm supposed to do |
| 17:47.46 | _DomY-Dom | Sorry |
| 17:48.00 | _DomY-Dom | I've solved issues before but this is just.. messed up |
| 17:48.09 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: start off by pastbinning the full list you appear to have left out half it |
| 17:48.36 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: then let us find out where that teamspeak is coming from |
| 17:48.49 | _DomY-Dom | Which one did you say I had twice ? |
| 17:48.57 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.11 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: pastebin the full thing and I'll give it a once over for sanity |
| 17:49.19 | _DomY-Dom | Ah yes |
| 17:49.26 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: then apt-cache policy teamspeak |
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| 17:49.40 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: then apt-cache policy teamspeak3 |
| 17:49.53 | reavengrey | I can never wrap my head around apt |
| 17:49.57 | reavengrey | It's too gay |
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| 17:50.05 | _DomY-Dom | Lol |
| 17:50.25 | _DomY-Dom | reavengrey: what do you use anyway ? pacman ? |
| 17:50.26 | ompaul | reavengrey: that is an incorrect use of gay as I understand it |
| 17:50.42 | tharkun | can fail2ban and denyhosts coexist |
| 17:50.52 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: I confirm, that could be taken as a racist comment. |
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| 17:51.02 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: Yes I noticed that too, I can't get rid of denyhosts not sure why... |
| 17:51.03 | reavengrey | I use debian right now |
| 17:51.06 | reavengrey | but err, yea |
| 17:51.22 | reavengrey | also, ompaul bro, gay is a flexible word |
| 17:51.24 | _DomY-Dom | reavengrey: I use debian too... |
| 17:51.29 | reavengrey | "That car is so gay" |
| 17:51.30 | reavengrey | " |
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| 17:51.46 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: given the amount of time I have left best wait for someone else - however get all your sources properly pasted into a pastebin http://paste.debian.net is good |
| 17:51.52 | reavengrey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAWiAZE4S64 <-- best source for understanding gay |
| 17:52.03 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: and also apt-cache policy teamspeak3 |
| 17:52.07 | _DomY-Dom | reavengrey: Yes but it's not like you would say that if you were gay yourself.. |
| 17:52.10 | engla | reavengrey: just stick to talking about debian please |
| 17:52.13 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: ok give me asec |
| 17:52.23 | _DomY-Dom | engla: +1 |
| 17:52.29 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: I have to leave dinner function tonight |
| 17:52.41 | _DomY-Dom | ok can i send you a memo ? |
| 17:52.42 | reavengrey | be sure to get suited up :O |
| 17:52.54 | _DomY-Dom | reavengrey: … *facepalm* |
| 17:53.16 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: Can I send you a memo with the info later please ? |
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| 18:02.32 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/171267/ |
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| 18:04.04 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, get rid of everything below line 24 |
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| 18:07.09 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, and add contrib non-free to Squeeze and Security, teamspeak is in non-free |
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| 18:07.16 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: http://paste.debian.net/171268/ |
| 18:07.20 | _DomY-Dom | that's how it is now |
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| 18:08.53 | Bounceand | Ping |
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| 18:13.12 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, http://paste.debian.net/171271/ that's everything you will need except for webmin |
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| 18:16.50 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: awesome seems to be working for now, though still a few errors for ftp:// in what I can see |
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| 18:18.48 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 18:19.26 | johnfg | I'm running squeeze with all updates. I wanted to print off some sheet music from a commercial site where I have a license (our church does, i.e.). |
| 18:19.44 | johnfg | Twice, iceweasel has stated that the adobe plugin has crashed. |
| 18:19.56 | johnfg | Is this any kind of squeeze problem? |
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| 18:20.26 | ksuhku | adobe flash is a piece of shit |
| 18:20.27 | GNU\colossus | johnfg, don't use the adobe plugin, which isn't part of Debian, then. use another PDF reader, if possible. |
| 18:20.48 | GNU\colossus | oh, or do they deliver the music sheets via flash? |
| 18:20.50 | GNU\colossus | (wtf!) |
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| 18:22.33 | johnfg | GNU\colossus, I think it's the latter, they do it via flash, but using that adobe plugin. |
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| 18:22.45 | johnfg | The site is ccli.com. |
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| 18:30.06 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil / ompaul: my sources.list file now looks like this http://paste.debian.net/171275/ but I still have errors when trying to update && upgrade http://paste.debian.net/171274/ |
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| 18:32.20 | dokma|2 | is there a way to grant a user full access to files and folders in one specific folder no matter what particular access permissions are set on the contents of the folder |
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| 18:32.56 | themill | _DomY-Dom: you still haven't cleaned the lenny crap out of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
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| 18:33.43 | tharkun | BTW is there some major screw up on GPG error: http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports BADSIG AED4B06F473041FA Its been two days since it began? |
| 18:35.13 | _DomY-Dom | themill: should i literally delete it ? |
| 18:35.29 | zappal | i try to install grub-pc on squeeze apt-get install grub-pc then i did grub-setup /dev/sda and grub-setup /dev/sdb without fault but after update-grub i get this --> http://dpaste.com/752401/ |
| 18:35.37 | GNU\colossus | dokma, no |
| 18:35.39 | zappal | can anybody help me please |
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| 18:36.18 | themill | _DomY-Dom: I don't know what you've got there, but most likely. You should also get rid of line 22 of your sources.lidt |
| 18:36.26 | zappal | df -h |
| 18:36.27 | zappal | Dateisystem Size Used Avail Use% Eingehängt auf |
| 18:36.27 | zappal | /dev/md2 28G 12G 15G 45% / |
| 18:36.27 | zappal | tmpfs 3.0G 0 3.0G 0% /lib/init/rw |
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| 18:36.38 | dokma | GNU\colossus: do you know if it is possible to grant one user root like privileges in accessing files? |
| 18:36.40 | Lymia | Wee~ |
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| 18:36.46 | Lymia | I got XFS and full disk encryption working |
| 18:36.47 | themill | dpkg: tell zappal about paste |
| 18:36.48 | Lymia | With multiple partitions |
| 18:36.55 | zappal | sorry |
| 18:37.03 | tharkun | dokma: man sudo |
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| 18:38.14 | zappal | why do i get this error: out of partition |
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| 18:38.26 | dokma | tharkun: I don't think sudo will do here |
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| 18:38.40 | themill | tharkun: I can't say that I've seen that problem. Do you have a proxy in the way that's breaking things? |
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| 18:40.09 | tesla_dv1 | Has anyone had any success with the ATI proprietary driver (catalyst 12.4) with Debian Wheezy? I've successfully got it to work on squeeze... with wheezy or sid it fails to load the desktop manager and each time you're presented with a black screen with a fast blinking cursor. It is an AMD A6-3650 APU outputing to HDMI... |
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| 18:41.27 | tesla_dv1 | Also I have followed the wiki entry: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary without luck. |
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| 18:42.00 | abrotman | tesla_dv1: they're not compatible |
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| 18:42.58 | tesla_dv1 | abrotma: do you mean with testing/sid. Would a lower version of the fglrx driver work? |
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| 18:46.50 | tesla_dv1 | abrotman: could you please elaborate, been on this for a day now, pissed I may have to go put a vid-card in this thing.. knew I should have stuck with nvidia :( |
| 18:48.01 | tharkun | themill: non whatsoever. Actually apt-spy fubared stuff enough that i had to get my hands dirty to fix it. What is the factoid to reset the ftpmaster key? |
| 18:48.38 | peterrooney | dpkg: listkeys ftpmaster |
| 18:48.39 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'ftpmaster' by key (3): ftpmasters ;; ftpmaster down #del# ;; ftpmaster. |
| 18:48.44 | tesla_dv1 | and also there is a dependancy problem with the non-free repo driver because of xserver-xorg... I assume this is because xorg is ahead of the driver release cycle, anyone know if it will be fixed? |
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| 18:50.28 | _DomY-Dom | themill / ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/171279/ after having done what I thought ompaul wanted me to do (which was just keep that http://paste.debian.net/171280/ in my sources.list). I probably misunderstood… :( |
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| 18:51.21 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, you still have lenny |
| 18:51.45 | _DomY-Dom | I assure you I deleted it ! |
| 18:52.08 | craigevil | did you upgrade from lenny to squeeze? if so comment or remove any references to lenny |
| 18:52.10 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: god damnit.. |
| 18:52.14 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: no |
| 18:52.17 | _DomY-Dom | cragevil: one sec |
| 18:52.20 | damacus | hello - i'm having a problem with kvm on squeeze - i can pxe boot machines on my network, but i can't get a vm guest to netboot |
| 18:52.23 | damacus | it doesn't get an IP |
| 18:52.30 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release.gpg its till there somewhere |
| 18:52.37 | damacus | pxe works fine for esxi guests though |
| 18:52.40 | _DomY-Dom | cragevil: removed lenny for sure now |
| 18:52.45 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil* |
| 18:52.51 | _DomY-Dom | no idea where squeeze comes from though.. |
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| 18:53.07 | craigevil | did you upgrade from lenny to squeeze? |
| 18:53.26 | craigevil | also there is no volatile remove any line with volatile in them |
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| 18:54.26 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: I did not do anything with squeeze or lenny. http://paste.debian.net/171281/ |
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| 18:54.36 | craigevil | it should look more or less like this http://paste.debian.net/171271/ |
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| 18:54.39 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: ompaul told me to put in those two lines for sources.list with debian-volatile |
| 18:54.52 | sweb1 | any simple guide to build package from debian source package |
| 18:54.53 | sweb1 | ? |
| 18:55.05 | tesla_dv1 | Has anyone had any success with the ATI proprietary driver (catalyst 12.4) with Debian Wheezy? I've successfully got it to work on squeeze... with wheezy or sid it fails to load the desktop manager and each time you're presented with a black screen with a fast blinking cursor. It is an AMD A6-3650 APU outputing to HDMI... |
| 18:55.08 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: I had tried that didn't do anything, ompaul told me to delete all of that that I didn't need it |
| 18:55.23 | craigevil | the only reason you would have lenny , you either installed lenny or added lenny, Lenny is old stable |
| 18:56.01 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, what does cat /etc/debian_version show |
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| 18:59.22 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: http://paste.debian.net/171283/ but I think PM is more convenient what do you think ? |
| 18:59.55 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: sorry for epic fail for debian_version .. |
| 18:59.56 | _DomY-Dom | xD |
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| 19:01.12 | craigevil | well he was wrong, volatile is now squeeze-updates, remove everything and copy/paste > http://paste.debian.net/171271/ |
| 19:02.05 | _DomY-Dom | I had already tried that but never mind.. |
| 19:02.07 | _DomY-Dom | Ok so |
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| 19:02.27 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, what does cat /etc/debian_version show |
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| 19:02.50 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: 6.0.5 it said in the last paste debian I sent you |
| 19:02.50 | craigevil | or uname -a |
| 19:03.13 | craigevil | ah missed that ok, so you are running squeeze |
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| 19:03.47 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: for uname -a it says: Linux ____ #3 SMP Wed Apr 11 16:27:59 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 19:04.06 | _DomY-Dom | craigevi: squeeze yes apparently now i just added what you told me to sources.list |
| 19:04.37 | damacus | backports question -- how does that affect the upgrade process when wheezy comes out? |
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| 19:05.48 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: this is what happens when I now try apt-get update : http://paste.debian.net/171287/ |
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| 19:06.55 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, right you just need the key, apt-get install deb-multimedia-keyring |
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| 19:07.31 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: Nope, still a problem: http://paste.debian.net/171288/ |
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| 19:07.59 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil; do I just run apt-get -f install ? |
| 19:08.17 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, sure why not |
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| 19:08.37 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: didn't work either: http://paste.debian.net/171289/ |
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| 19:10.00 | craigevil | manually stop teamspeak, then run it again |
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| 19:10.21 | GNU\colossus | kick teamspeak into the bin, and upgrade to mumble today. |
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| 19:11.12 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: What is the teamspeak service called though |
| 19:11.50 | craigevil | no clue, try /etc/init.d/teamspeak stop |
| 19:12.21 | IBMHPGOOGLE | If I have ubuntu can I install debian by typing something even if I need to remove debian |
| 19:12.30 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: /etc/init.d/teamspeak3 stop |
| 19:12.30 | _DomY-Dom | Arrêt du serveur TeamSpeak |
| 19:12.30 | _DomY-Dom | /etc/init.d/teamspeak3: line 15: skill: command not found |
| 19:12.40 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: so I start it again now ? (not yeah that's french) |
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| 19:12.57 | craigevil | try doing apt-get -f install first |
| 19:12.57 | themill | _DomY-Dom: can you pastebin the output of "aptitude search ~nteamspeak" |
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| 19:13.14 | themill | (the teamspeak init script needs fixing or teamspeak needs purging) |
| 19:13.22 | Sw33NY | IBMHPGOOGLE, can you say me if you question is : If I have one CD/DVD of Ubuntu, can I install Debian with it ? |
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| 19:14.13 | APCPRO | is there any update for blender? |
| 19:14.42 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: http://paste.debian.net/171290/ still .. now for aptitude search ~nteamspeak I don't get anything. |
| 19:14.45 | IBMHPGOOGLE | Sw33NY, No I have it on the hard disk |
| 19:15.39 | jelly-home | IBMHPGOOGLE: sure, you can installed debian via a second linux installation. Read about the debootstrap method in Debian's release notes. |
| 19:15.43 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, remove teamspeak you can always reinstall it later |
| 19:16.08 | _DomY-Dom | themill: it's telling me teamspeak isn't installed but it clearly is since it's in /etc/init.d as teamspeak3, I can't remove it or purge cause it says it doesn't exist, what command do you want me to use ? |
| 19:16.13 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: same thing |
| 19:16.41 | jelly-home | dpkg: tell IBMHPGOOGLE about debootstrap |
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| 19:17.08 | jelly-home | dpkg: tell IBMHPGOOGLE about i-g |
| 19:17.18 | WinstonSmith | _DomY-Dom: i use TS3 on my server, using this init script: http://paste.debian.net/171292/ |
| 19:17.35 | IBMHPGOOGLE | jelly-home, No I meant directly from the terminal |
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| 19:17.47 | _DomY-Dom | WinstonSmith: I do not need it right now, I first need to fix my apt-get update && upgrade and then get postfix working, only then will I worry about TS3. |
| 19:17.56 | WinstonSmith | _DomY-Dom: take care that the script also starts the TS bot |
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| 19:18.03 | jelly-home | IBMHPGOOGLE: debootstrap is a command line tool |
| 19:18.07 | _DomY-Dom | WinstonSmith: Thanks anyways :) |
| 19:18.09 | WinstonSmith | ah fine |
| 19:18.12 | WinstonSmith | np |
| 19:18.14 | _DomY-Dom | craeigevil, themill |
| 19:18.31 | _DomY-Dom | craigevill, themill: how do I get rid of Teamspeak the regular commands ain't working.. |
| 19:18.43 | themill | _DomY-Dom: how did you install it? |
| 19:18.54 | _DomY-Dom | themill: I didn't that's the point, my coadmin must have done it |
| 19:19.21 | _DomY-Dom | themill: it's still there it's in /etc/init.d |
| 19:19.47 | _DomY-Dom | themill: but dpkg —force-all-r teamspeak3 with or without the 3, apt-get remove teamspeak3 etc don't work |
| 19:19.49 | themill | _DomY-Dom: actually, as a first step, let's get apt happy. Move away that init script (or delete it) and delete the symlinks to it from /etc/rc?.d/ |
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| 19:20.07 | _DomY-Dom | themill: ok so |
| 19:20.29 | IBMHPGOOGLE | jelly-home, Ok how can I install it |
| 19:20.45 | jelly-home | IBMHPGOOGLE: read the install guide, please |
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| 19:21.43 | _DomY-Dom | themill: 1) ok removed teamspeak3 from /etc/init.d, not sure what you want me to do in the second step I have this http://paste.debian.net/171293/ in the directory you mentionned |
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| 19:22.04 | jelly-home | IBMHPGOOGLE: the procedure requires decent knowledge of linux systems and quite a bit of manual work |
| 19:22.40 | themill | _DomY-Dom: looks like it doesn't have any more links to it. Try "aptitude full-upgrade" again |
| 19:24.04 | IBMHPGOOGLE | jelly-home: Ok so how many lines do I need to type and witch install guide |
| 19:25.47 | jelly-home | IBMHPGOOGLE: dpkg, the bot, told youabout the debian install guide in a private message a couple of minutes ago. Did you get it? |
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| 19:32.21 | _DomY-Dom | themill: seems to have worked! |
| 19:34.15 | _DomY-Dom | themill: Great apt-get is fixed ! |
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| 19:34.39 | _DomY-Dom | themill: ok so now I need to set up a mail server do you recommend postfix or sendmail ? |
| 19:35.04 | themill | anything but sendmail |
| 19:35.20 | _DomY-Dom | themill: ok lol I will attempt to install postfix now and configure it... |
| 19:36.20 | _DomY-Dom | themill: this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/postfix.html should work theoretically right ? |
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| 19:39.02 | themill | _DomY-Dom: I dislike "tutorials" because people follow them blindly. That said, http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze is fairly good. |
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| 19:40.54 | _DomY-Dom | themill: Lol "blindly" not exactly.. though ok let's say if I did follow "almost blindly" this http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze/postfix-database-configuration it should work out better than if I did follow "almost blindly" the one a the previous link I sent you right ? |
| 19:41.49 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html |
| 19:42.08 | tharkun | Nothing like good all upstream docs. Fairly accurate |
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| 19:43.01 | _DomY-Dom | themill: looks great, nice and clair, thought that's the bit after the dpkg-reconfigure part |
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| 19:43.29 | _DomY-Dom | themill: I know there's no way I can mess the dpkg-reconfigure but it's just that with that mess up of apt-get, I'm expecting anything right now.. |
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| 19:44.22 | _DomY-Dom | themill: ah yes I have a question too, I would like to have mail for two different domains, in System Mail name which one do I put, either of the two ? |
| 19:45.04 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: also i forgot an MTA is a powerfull piece of software. Start simple and add stuff until it does whatever you need. |
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| 19:45.58 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: sorry I called you themill for the last few times.. but ok thanks. can you answer my last question or do you not know ? |
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| 19:46.52 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: lunaphyte Allready answered you. Listen to him but first read the BASIC url |
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| 20:22.46 | juicy | hi, I was wondering how to set the time to use DST instead |
| 20:22.50 | juicy | s/instead/ |
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| 20:23.10 | xand | er... that should happen automatically if your timezone is correct |
| 20:23.14 | juicy | because right now, when I set the time with tzdata, it just reverts its self sort of |
| 20:23.14 | abrotman | !tell juicy about set the time |
| 20:23.17 | juicy | :/ |
| 20:23.24 | juicy | I know how to set the time.. |
| 20:23.36 | tharkun | dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 20:23.40 | juicy | I did that |
| 20:23.53 | juicy | and it set to the correct time (without DST) |
| 20:24.16 | xand | what timezone does "date" command say on the end? |
| 20:24.25 | juicy | EST |
| 20:24.40 | juicy | Sat May 26 15:22:05 EST 2012 |
| 20:24.47 | juicy | but thats not the right time |
| 20:24.52 | xand | your clock is slow btw |
| 20:24.59 | tharkun | ntp |
| 20:25.12 | juicy | how do I config ntp? |
| 20:25.18 | juicy | and I know, its like 3 mins slow |
| 20:25.19 | xand | apt-get install ntp |
| 20:25.27 | juicy | do I have to config it? |
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| 20:25.37 | juicy | I think OVH installed NTP and configured it with their time servers :/ |
| 20:25.40 | xand | not unless you can't access the debian ntp servers |
| 20:25.43 | juicy | brb, lemme install ntp and do that |
| 20:26.38 | xand | what is in /etc/timezone? |
| 20:26.40 | juicy | ok, now the mins are correct |
| 20:26.45 | juicy | but its still one hour back |
| 20:26.58 | juicy | America/Toronto |
| 20:27.00 | juicy | ^^ |
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| 20:27.07 | xand | is that correct? |
| 20:27.09 | juicy | yes |
| 20:27.12 | xand | hmm |
| 20:27.17 | juicy | but its 4:27 atm |
| 20:27.23 | juicy | and it sais 3:27 |
| 20:27.37 | xand | it says EST |
| 20:27.40 | xand | it should be EDT |
| 20:27.56 | juicy | and EDT will change with the daylight? |
| 20:28.02 | juicy | with the daylight changes * |
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| 20:28.28 | xand | if it was working properly it would automatically change to EDT and back to EST with no intervention |
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| 20:28.47 | juicy | ooh |
| 20:28.51 | juicy | one secc :) |
| 20:29.00 | xand | try dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 20:29.56 | xeon-enouf | depends on State ;-) AZ (and also HI?) doesn't do EDT -- zoneinfo/zdump are weird |
| 20:30.00 | C-Kermit | In Bash, to ge the exit status of a program I try variables $RETURN, $RET, $RC, $EXIT, $STATUS . . . none of them has the value. Which var houses the exit status of a proggy? |
| 20:30.19 | xand | you americans with your multiple timezones! |
| 20:30.29 | xeon-enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:30.39 | juicy | ok, now its 100% messed up :) |
| 20:30.40 | juicy | Sat May 26 20:30:20 EDT 2012 |
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| 20:31.00 | korkman | C-Kermit: it's "$?" |
| 20:31.03 | petemc | C-Kermit: $? |
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| 20:31.23 | xand | juicy: how did you achieve that? |
| 20:31.24 | C-Kermit | korkman, petemc: thank you kindly. |
| 20:31.28 | korkman | C-Kermit: and you must fetch it right after execution |
| 20:31.29 | xeon-enouf | xand: our global financial terrowista cartel is much more of an issue :-p |
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| 20:31.33 | xand | that time is GMT |
| 20:31.43 | C-Kermit | korkman: yes, ok |
| 20:31.43 | juicy | xand: just setting the timezone to EDT |
| 20:31.51 | xand | how? |
| 20:31.52 | korkman | C-Kermit: because in bash almost everything has an exit status and will overwrite $? |
| 20:31.59 | juicy | xand: you europeans with your perfectly organized time ;3 |
| 20:32.06 | juicy | export TZ=EDT |
| 20:32.09 | xand | I'm not european I'm british |
| 20:32.20 | juicy | potato, potato |
| 20:32.34 | C-Kermit | doesn't England have 2 time zones? |
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| 20:32.47 | xand | what |
| 20:32.49 | juicy | Im not american, Im canadian (unfortunately) |
| 20:32.55 | xand | north america |
| 20:32.58 | xand | north american |
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| 20:33.01 | juicy | xand: anywho, why did it do that? |
| 20:33.05 | twanny796 | how do I <b>completely</b> remove a package? |
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| 20:33.06 | xand | C-Kermit: no, unless you mean DST |
| 20:33.08 | xeon-enouf | juicy: does 'locales' print out apropos LC_TIME?? |
| 20:33.09 | engla | C-Kermit: as in GMT and BST yes |
| 20:33.18 | xand | twanny796: apt-get remove --purge blah |
| 20:33.18 | juicy | twanny796: apt-get remove --purge package |
| 20:33.23 | korkman | twanny796: "purge" it, like aptitude purge package |
| 20:33.24 | xeon-enouf | err 'locale' juicy |
| 20:33.26 | juicy | xand: :/ |
| 20:33.32 | juicy | xeon-enouf: one sec :) |
| 20:33.50 | juicy | xeon-enouf: bash: locales: command not found |
| 20:33.50 | C-Kermit | Russia must have about half dozen time zones |
| 20:33.54 | xand | I'm not sure that setting things in your shell will help o.o |
| 20:34.08 | xand | run this as root/sudo: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 20:34.18 | xand | that should configure it correctly... |
| 20:34.19 | juicy | mmk, thanks |
| 20:34.50 | xeon-enouf | set time using 'date' as well |
| 20:35.04 | xand | I'd use ntpdate ;0 |
| 20:35.38 | xeon-enouf | yea, i'm a drifter for sure :-p |
| 20:35.43 | juicy | http://pastebin.com/6Ad3J86m |
| 20:36.10 | xand | juicy: well it did work according to dpkg-reconfigure's output |
| 20:36.16 | juicy | ikr? |
| 20:36.45 | juicy | Imma brb, gonna go play golf :3 |
| 20:36.55 | xand | not sure why date is doing that. |
| 20:37.01 | juicy | I just want irssi time to be set properly :/ |
| 20:37.59 | xand | unset TZ |
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| 20:41.34 | gausus | re |
| 20:42.18 | gausus | i have an issue with wheezy - my system freezes about few minutes after startup |
| 20:42.22 | gausus | sometimes even faster |
| 20:42.36 | gausus | there is nothing in the logs |
| 20:42.44 | gausus | or any kernel message on the screen |
| 20:42.48 | gausus | just a hard freez |
| 20:43.06 | gausus | yet the hardware is fine - win7 runs on it for hours |
| 20:43.30 | aber | What processor do you have? |
| 20:43.36 | gausus | i5 |
| 20:43.47 | aber | What generation? third? |
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| 20:45.15 | korkman | also, is a gui loaded? what gfx? |
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| 20:45.37 | gausus | no - just console with default kernel fb |
| 20:45.54 | gausus | intel i5 cpu 760 |
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| 20:46.32 | Iamonthissong | how to generate new timezone (utc +2 hours 4 minutes when DST and utc +3 hours 4 minutes when it's not) in squeeze? |
| 20:47.18 | korkman | gausus: what does it run? cpu intesive application, or does it lock up without any load? |
| 20:47.52 | gausus | korkman: i boot it and leave it unused - it hangs in few minutes |
| 20:48.05 | gausus | sometimes it freezes during the boot |
| 20:48.12 | xand | generate new timezone? |
| 20:48.12 | gausus | maybe it is the ssd ? |
| 20:48.29 | korkman | gausus: does it boot from the ssd? |
| 20:48.43 | korkman | (should be no problem) |
| 20:49.29 | korkman | random freeze with otherwise fine hardware is strange |
| 20:50.13 | gausus | yes, it boots from ssd |
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| 20:50.23 | gausus | i tried ubuntu but the installer freezes during install |
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| 20:50.45 | gausus | (still the hardware looks fine - 8 hours of full detail diablo 3 and no problems) |
| 20:50.47 | korkman | the current wheezy kernel (is the install up-to-date?) is 3.2 series and already stabilizing so should be good |
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| 20:51.03 | Iamonthissong | xand: yep. my vps provider gives me utc +2 time instead of utc (openvz), and i have strong suggestion it is CEST (host node is in germany), so it will transform into utc+1 when winter, i can't correct time with date command(permission denied), so only way to correct time is generating new tz. |
| 20:51.31 | neglesaks | could someone give me a brief heads up of what the different debian live disks refer to (ex. bt-dd, bt-hybrid, iso-hybrid... etc)? |
| 20:52.07 | gausus | kernel is 3.2.0-2 |
| 20:52.07 | korkman | gausus: try loading a gui. maybe the gfx freaks out on text mode. |
| 20:52.21 | gausus | i have started gnome |
| 20:52.25 | gausus | and it looks fine |
| 20:52.34 | korkman | gausus: ah and ubuntu was on gui too and froze |
| 20:53.19 | Iamonthissong | neglesaks: bt - torrent-file, hdd - image of installed (not sure) debian, which you have to write to hdd, hybrid - iso file, which you can write on both dvd and usb flash stick. |
| 20:53.33 | gausus | korkman: ubuntu froze with either gui or text installer |
| 20:53.52 | korkman | gausus: check what device drivers are loaded lsmod maybe pastebin that |
| 20:54.13 | twanny796 | how do I get information on what files a package has and where it is intalled? |
| 20:54.15 | neglesaks | ah... thanks Iamonthissong - im going to seed the debian images on my server and im tryign to decipher which will be of most use to people. |
| 20:54.29 | neglesaks | im guessing the hybrid iso would be my choice? |
| 20:54.40 | xeon-enouf | C-Kermit: IINM, and i'm sure xand et al will correct me, i think (parts of) Scotland, which is part of the UK, not England is on a diff timezone |
| 20:54.48 | korkman | gausus: try and unload as many as possible, like bluetooth, wifi, whatever not required is loaded |
| 20:55.01 | gausus | korkman: ok, i had gnome running. i did apt-get -u update and the system froze |
| 20:55.02 | Iamonthissong | neglesaks: np. yep, i think so. |
| 20:55.07 | nvz | neglesaks: for a regular portable live distro then yeah that would be best |
| 20:55.20 | neglesaks | thank you. i will seed that then. thanks nvz, too! |
| 20:55.34 | C-Kermit | xeon-enouf: i see |
| 20:55.34 | xand | xeon-enouf: wrong |
| 20:55.42 | xand | all of the UK is the same timezone |
| 20:56.05 | xeon-enouf | sucks then |
| 20:56.18 | xand | Iamonthissong: did you try runnin "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" to fix it? |
| 20:56.38 | neglesaks | ah, foolish me. i found out that the iso folder contains iso's only, but no torrent files. :] |
| 20:57.00 | Iamonthissong | neglesaks: use bt folder then. |
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| 20:57.10 | neglesaks | i will. h |
| 20:57.12 | neglesaks | thanks again |
| 20:57.31 | Iamonthissong | xand: well, no. but i'm not sure if it will be help, if time on host node is wrong and i can't change time neither hn nor vps |
| 20:57.33 | mortal1 | has anyone had any luck accessing an encrypted drive via usb? |
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| 20:59.06 | gausus | korkman: i'll do so |
| 20:59.15 | Iamonthissong | xand: i tried. output is http://pastebin.com/U42sg0BA , when UTC time is 21:00 |
| 20:59.33 | korkman | gausus: i think some hardware is acting up. maybe kernel loads a wrong driver. try and catch it. |
| 20:59.34 | xand | hmm |
| 21:00.15 | korkman | gausus: there's really few things common between ubuntu installer and debian text console, so it must be something kernel related. |
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| 21:01.15 | Iamonthissong | xand: so, i can't see anyway except generating new tz. (if i could use date, it was pretty simple) |
| 21:01.33 | xand | I would complain to the provider who haven't set it up properly |
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| 21:03.24 | Iamonthissong | xand: well, i already posted it to forum of provider. thread is on premoderating, but i'd like see now proper time. |
| 21:04.15 | xand | you can't do it properly if you can't change the actual time with date |
| 21:04.20 | gausus | korkman: i'll try with 2.6. kernel |
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| 21:05.07 | gausus | korkman: thx :) |
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| 21:05.30 | Iamonthissong | xand: ah, ok, thnx for help. |
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| 21:06.45 | mjmt | We have three timezones in Australia. |
| 21:07.33 | dioz | i can't believe how stupid people are |
| 21:07.36 | mjmt | Plus I'm pretty sure not all states agree on DST. |
| 21:07.47 | xeon-enouf | Iamonthissong: i have tzconfig tzselect here, though they might be old/useless; also, you might alter /etc/default/rcS to not use UTC?? |
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| 21:09.57 | mjmt | dioz: About timezones? |
| 21:10.10 | dioz | i didn't realize which channel i was in |
| 21:10.18 | dioz | that was supposed to be typed in a different channel |
| 21:10.55 | dioz | this person calls me and i say to them "can i get your contact number" |
| 21:11.08 | dioz | she the broad is like "i don't have a contact unmber" i said "so if i need to call you back i can't?" |
| 21:11.12 | dioz | she says "oh no you can..." |
| 21:11.17 | dioz | then i say "well can i have that number?" |
| 21:11.28 | dioz | she says "which number" i say "the contact number so i can call you back if i need" |
| 21:11.34 | dioz | then she gave me her account number |
| 21:11.37 | dioz | facepalms |
| 21:11.39 | dioz | people are so dumb |
| 21:11.47 | mjmt | Probably calling you on her stapler, and her phone's in the drawer with the other stationery. |
| 21:11.59 | dioz | ragequits |
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| 21:12.51 | Iamonthissong | xeon-enouf: tzconfig - "WARNING: the tzconfig command is deprecated, please use: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" tzselect allows to change me timezone to any other but it isn't point of my problem, i need utc -2 in summer and utc -1 in winter, and i don't see tz like this |
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| 21:14.15 | dvs | Iamonthissong: sooooo... you live in your own timezone? |
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| 21:15.48 | Iamonthissong | xeon-enouf: thanks, reading man 5 rcS makes me understand how i can avoid that behaviour |
| 21:16.13 | C-Kermit | Linux vfat filesystem leaves the boot sector blank. Is there a utility to add booting code to boot sector? |
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| 21:16.37 | Iamonthissong | dvs: i thought i have to migrate in my own tz. |
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| 21:17.29 | reavengrey | wut |
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| 21:17.43 | reavengrey | C-Kermit: linux vfat does wut |
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| 21:18.25 | C-Kermit | reavengrey: "blank", as in "empty" |
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| 21:18.40 | reavengrey | Yea, but how does the VFAT driver in linux do this? |
| 21:18.57 | zophy | is there a dns changer infection threat 1?for linux |
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| 21:19.15 | C-Kermit | reavengrey: the formatting utility |
| 21:19.33 | craigevil | cfdisk |
| 21:19.57 | craigevil | zophy, lol no |
| 21:20.03 | reavengrey | VFAT is driver for linux written to deliberately take advantage of a patent hole |
| 21:20.14 | reavengrey | IT's not a formatter :| |
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| 21:21.16 | Pinchiukas | Anybody can tell me what "error: out of disk." means when booting after "Loading Linux 2.6.32-5-686"? |
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| 21:21.31 | craigevil | C-Kermit, cfdisk is the app you want, http://ss64.com/bash/cfdisk.html |
| 21:21.31 | Pinchiukas | I suddenly can't boot after a power loss... |
| 21:21.52 | C-Kermit | craigevil: thank you |
| 21:22.06 | xeon-enouf | there's a mbr pkg or something |
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| 21:22.28 | C-Kermit | xeon-enouf: ok, thanks |
| 21:22.35 | xeon-enouf | and another like 'sys' that's moreso meant for floppies? |
| 21:22.38 | zophy | Pinchiukas, omg |
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| 21:23.10 | xeon-enouf | mbr - Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers. #aye |
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| 21:23.26 | Pinchiukas | zophy, what? |
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| 21:24.44 | zophy | do you know what it means to "start thermo nuclear war" ? |
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| 21:24.59 | Pinchiukas | Anybody can help me with my problem? |
| 21:25.56 | mjmt | Pinchiukas: Can you boot a live CD? |
| 21:26.24 | xeon-enouf | yeah, and run fsck on /, then all others |
| 21:26.53 | xeon-enouf | are you sure you didn't run out of disk space? using lvm,md,encryption? |
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| 21:28.23 | craigevil | Pinchiukas, reinstall grub |
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| 21:30.02 | zophy | Pinchiukas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Rescue%20Mode, there's some stuff about grub if you can ghet that far when you boot from whatever you boot from |
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| 21:31.20 | _DomY-Dom | Hello again, I've just installed iRedMail but my roundcube seems not to be working :( http://sperec.fr/mail/ here is the prompt throughout the installation http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22527/, can anyone help ? |
| 21:31.31 | xeon-enouf | is grub2 default on Stable? |
| 21:31.49 | craigevil | ,versions grub-pc |
| 21:31.49 | judd | Package: grub-pc on i386 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16; lenny-backports: 1.97~beta3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; sid: 1.99-21; wheezy: 1.99-21 |
| 21:31.51 | xeon-enouf | hrmph 2.6.32 seems old for even stable :-p |
| 21:31.59 | xeon-enouf | ahh |
| 21:32.03 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: hi again, no anything about my current problem ? |
| 21:32.09 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: know* |
| 21:32.17 | xeon-enouf | ,versions grub-legacy |
| 21:32.18 | judd | Package: grub-legacy on i386 -- squeeze: 0.97-64; sid: 0.97-66; wheezy: 0.97-66 |
| 21:32.21 | craigevil | 2.6.32 is the default squeeze kernel, 3.2 is in backports |
| 21:32.33 | xeon-enouf | ahh, ok, thanks craigevil |
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| 21:33.34 | mynameisdeleted | so... 2 mins to fsck a 12TB drive |
| 21:33.44 | zophy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.45 | mynameisdeleted | 10 mins maybe to resize2fs that? |
| 21:33.45 | xeon-enouf | um |
| 21:33.51 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: Hello again, I've just installed iRedMail but my roundcube seems not to be working http://sperec.fr/mail/ here is the prompt throughout the installation http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22527/, can anyone help ? |
| 21:33.53 | krisfremen | 12TB drive? |
| 21:34.04 | mynameisdeleted | raid6, 6*3TB |
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| 21:35.16 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, I have never setup a server of any kind |
| 21:35.40 | xeon-enouf | !releases |
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| 21:35.41 | dpkg | See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. See <release history> or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases for prior releases. Ask me about <stable>, <testing>, <unstable> and <introduction>. |
| 21:35.45 | _DomY-Dom | craigevil: argh ok does anyone else n here know ? |
| 21:35.59 | zophy | heh, i messaged dmeg |
| 21:36.02 | craigevil | it didnt do a complete fsck in 2 minutes |
| 21:36.03 | zophy | dmesg |
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| 21:36.08 | xeon-enouf | zophy: ^ ; probably squeeze |
| 21:36.13 | mynameisdeleted | I guess fsck times relative to resize2fs dont scale between 1 drive desktops of 1TB |
| 21:36.21 | mynameisdeleted | and strange devices like ssd and raid with different block sizes |
| 21:36.35 | mynameisdeleted | I think for filesystems les than 1TB |
| 21:36.47 | mynameisdeleted | resize2fs to expand takes about 3 times as long as an fsck |
| 21:37.04 | mynameisdeleted | with 64MB cache times 6 and 24GB ram that caches as well |
| 21:37.11 | zophy | mynameisdeleted, make sure you back up the good porn |
| 21:37.19 | mynameisdeleted | fsck may get accelerated in ways resiz2fs doesnt |
| 21:37.32 | mynameisdeleted | last time I ran this it took a15 mins |
| 21:37.38 | mynameisdeleted | its much faster than array reshaping |
| 21:37.42 | mynameisdeleted | could take 30 this time |
| 21:37.51 | mynameisdeleted | I used -p to check progress as it goes |
| 21:37.52 | zophy | anyone know if reiser filesystem is being maintained ? |
| 21:38.09 | spongetims | Hello, I would like to install a network printer Dell 1720dn. I'm using debian testing with gnome desktop und awesome wm. I get following message: http://paste.debian.net/171305/ The package ist installed. Has somebody a hint for me? |
| 21:38.18 | wooster | reiser is maintaining it from san quenn |
| 21:38.23 | wooster | w/ pen and paper |
| 21:38.30 | zophy | germans killing russians, will it ever stop ? |
| 21:38.41 | zophy | was his wife jewish ? |
| 21:38.42 | wooster | he was framed |
| 21:39.10 | wooster | i don't think she was jewish |
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| 21:39.33 | craigevil | either way its offtopic |
| 21:39.33 | sussudio | zophy: yo, i don't know. turn off the lights and i'll glow. |
| 21:39.40 | xeon-enouf | printers are a PITA |
| 21:40.22 | craigevil | spongetims, use cups, although Dell printers sux more than others |
| 21:40.22 | xeon-enouf | wait, tried using CUPS and IPP? |
| 21:40.27 | _DomY-Dom | Hello again, I've just installed iRedMail but my roundcube seems not to be working http://sperec.fr/mail/ here is the prompt throughout the installation http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22527/, can anyone help ? |
| 21:40.36 | spongetims | cups, PITA? |
| 21:40.47 | zophy | what do they call call those toys that give random yes or no answers ? |
| 21:40.57 | mynameisdeleted | resized |
| 21:40.58 | mynameisdeleted | 15 mins |
| 21:41.04 | craigevil | spongetims, http://localhost:631/ |
| 21:41.13 | craigevil | !cups |
| 21:41.14 | dpkg | CUPS (formerly Common UNIX Printing System) provides a portable printing layer for UNIX-based operating systems and supports the Internet Printing Protocol. To install, ask me about <cups setup>. See also <debug cups>. http://cups.org/articles.php?L+TFAQ http://www.cups.org/ ##cups on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:41.35 | zophy | cups is good because it's from apple |
| 21:41.41 | mynameisdeleted | the /dev/md/md0 has been started with 6 drives |
| 21:41.46 | mynameisdeleted | much better than 3 drive raid5 |
| 21:42.18 | spongetims | craigevil: thanks |
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| 21:46.25 | spongetims | I get a username and password window after clicking on "add printer". Is user my current user? |
| 21:46.32 | zophy | CUPS says that my HP printer i threw away 2 months ago is idle |
| 21:46.50 | zophy | how did it know i threw it away ? |
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| 21:47.43 | craigevil | spongetims, root , add your user to the lp and lpadmin groups |
| 21:48.14 | zophy | craigevil, will he need to be root if he is in those groups ? |
| 21:48.20 | craigevil | nope |
| 21:48.22 | lord_rob | Hi ! My screen still goes in power saving mode with this xorg config. What's wrong with it ? http://pastebin.com/fRSCAkPC |
| 21:48.24 | zophy | cool |
| 21:49.29 | craigevil | zophy, my user's groups:craig lp cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev users netdev lpadmin powerdev scanner debian-tor |
| 21:49.47 | dvs | wonders why the lp group wasn't just called printer. |
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| 21:51.02 | thewanderer1 | guys, what do I do if I want to have OSSP UUID php5 module in Wheezy? |
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| 21:51.24 | zophy | dvs M$ patented the word 'printer' |
| 21:51.32 | themill | ,v php5-uuid |
| 21:51.33 | judd | Package: php5-uuid on i386 -- lenny: 1.5.1-1.1+b1; squeeze: 1.6.2-1 |
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| 21:52.48 | thewanderer1 | themill: yeah, that seems to be my problem |
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| 21:52.53 | zophy | i'm in group 'dip' |
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| 21:53.00 | themill | !dbugs 656482 |
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| 21:53.04 | themill | !dbug 656482 |
| 21:53.05 | dpkg | DONE:#656482:S[src:ossp-uuid] ossp-uuid: FTBFS with PHP 5.4 (patch); Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:21:13 UTC [] |
| 21:53.20 | themill | thewanderer1: you like php... it needs fixing... make it so! |
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| 21:53.43 | thewanderer1 | themill: okay, does DONE mean it's fixed and pushed into some repo? |
| 21:54.16 | themill | thewanderer1: no, done means the FTBFS was fixed... and if you look at the bug, you'll see that it was fixed by no longer building it |
| 21:54.27 | thewanderer1 | :/ |
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| 21:54.38 | _DomY-Dom | Hi, I've just installed iRedMail on my dedicated server but my roundcube seems not to be working http://sperec.fr/mail/ here is the prompt throughout the installation http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22527/, can anyone help ? |
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| 21:55.18 | _DomY-Dom | themill, do you know by any chance what's gone wrong ? i tried editing the /conf/roundcube file but it didn't make any difference |
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| 21:55.43 | themill | thewanderer1: when it comes to php failures like this, I can never work out whether to blame the php core developers for continually breaking the language or the php module writers for writing such crud to begin with |
| 21:56.54 | xex | the first |
| 21:56.55 | xex | :D |
| 21:57.04 | thewanderer1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.10 | craigevil | _DomY-Dom, http://www.iredmail.org/install_iredmail_on_debian.html |
| 21:58.02 | thewanderer1 | thanks |
| 21:58.13 | themill | _DomY-Dom: looks like you gave the config scripts the wrong password for the mysql root user |
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| 21:58.23 | mjmt | lord_rob: Screen blanking would still happen without DPMS, it's just the standby and suspend etc. that won't happen first (the manpage for xorg.conf says those require DPMS). Try xset s options. |
| 21:58.40 | zukalk | hi. i'm thinking of deploying a simple Squeeze printing/file server, but i want my system installed on a pen drive. does Debian Live allow persistence or should i look elsewhere? |
| 21:58.52 | themill | _DomY-Dom: I'm slightly concerned at how you don't have /sbin/runlevel though... that's very wrong |
| 21:58.58 | xeon-enouf | lord_rob: no idea why you need an xorg,conf, i just use xset and the dpms switches |
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| 21:59.29 | lord_rob | xeon-enouf: because I set a dual screen config |
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| 22:00.21 | spongetims | exit |
| 22:00.58 | xex | /exit |
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| 22:01.05 | _DomY-Dom | themill: do I really need it ? |
| 22:01.08 | thewanderer1 | zukalk: Debian Live can do persistence. personally, I hack initramfs-tools to load the system into RAM and do a normal install on pendrive's ext4. choose what seems saner... |
| 22:01.14 | spongetims | sorry and thanks to craigevil xex |
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| 22:01.28 | xex | lol |
| 22:01.36 | zukalk | thewanderer1, any solid documentation on that second method? |
| 22:01.37 | xeon-enouf | tty screens still blank (pretty sure a setting in /etc/console*/* takes care of that, but oh well), but all my xterms, etc (GUI) i control with xset |
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| 22:01.48 | zukalk | thewanderer1, in what way do you find it better? |
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| 22:03.16 | thewanderer1 | zukalk: solid, no. flaky and mine, possibly: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=49345 |
| 22:03.38 | C-Kermit | Does debian.org remove apps packages for previous releases of Debian, say for v3.4, v4.5, etc. ...? |
| 22:03.41 | thewanderer1 | zukalk: I just like having a typical Debian install that loads into RAM without the lots of Debian-Live hooks all around the place |
| 22:04.04 | zukalk | hum |
| 22:04.07 | C-Kermit | from the servers, that is |
| 22:04.10 | xeon-enouf | i suppose i could put my xset command in /etc/rc.local |
| 22:04.26 | xeon-enouf | if i rebooted ofter :-p |
| 22:04.28 | thewanderer1 | zukalk: then, for persistence, I do: cp -ax / /mnt/pendrive and I have persistence |
| 22:04.30 | zophy | ok, is there web basewd linux kernel ? |
| 22:04.30 | xeon-enouf | often* |
| 22:04.42 | zukalk | thewanderer1, but if everything's kept into RAM, how is persistence guaranteed if i change something?... oh, good timing |
| 22:04.57 | zophy | i want to boot into a browser and load the linux kernel as a browser extension |
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| 22:05.16 | thewanderer1 | zukalk: this also protects me from my own screw-ups - I upgraded to Sid once, then decided it was unstable, rebooted. woohoo, welcome back Squeeze... |
| 22:05.26 | zukalk | thewanderer1, nice! |
| 22:05.36 | craigevil | !tell C-Kermit about ado |
| 22:05.43 | zukalk | thewanderer1, thanks, i'll look into your post then |
| 22:05.54 | xeon-enouf | C-Kermit: i think maybe /msg dpkg snapshot and /msg dpkg ado if you need older pkgs |
| 22:05.56 | C-Kermit | craigevil: thank you |
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| 22:06.07 | thewanderer1 | zukalk: okay, and let me know if you find a dead link, I did lots of WWW rearranging lately |
| 22:06.29 | zukalk | thewanderer1, will do, thanks a bunch |
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| 22:07.01 | _DomY-Dom | themill: impossible to delete postfix and iRedMail, I can't manage to do it... |
| 22:07.12 | _DomY-Dom | themill: I want to start from scratch again and I can't remove it |
| 22:07.15 | mjmt | xeon-enouf: Some DEs save and restore those settings for you, or just 0 all those timeouts and do their own management (gnome-session does the latter). |
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| 22:08.19 | xeon-enouf | mjmt: no DEs here ;-) just X and openbox |
| 22:08.21 | zukalk | thewanderer1, do you think a headless squeeze with, i guess, CUPS and some ftpd/httpd will hold into 2 GB of RAM? |
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| 22:09.01 | _DomY-Dom | themill: ?? |
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| 22:09.17 | thewanderer1 | zukalk: yeah, it should use 1GB I think |
| 22:09.23 | zukalk | cool |
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| 22:10.43 | _DomY-Dom | Impossible to remove postfix and iRedMail does anyone know how to do it ? |
| 22:11.04 | xex | aptitude remove |
| 22:11.10 | abrotman | what is iRedMail ? |
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| 22:12.03 | craigevil | email server |
| 22:12.09 | craigevil | iRedMail - Free, Open Source Mail Server Solution for Linux/BSD - http://iredmail.org/ |
| 22:12.12 | mjmt | xeon-enouf: I just run gnome-session, it's good for theme, font, icon etc. settings. No panels or any of that crud, just a few good keyboard shortcuts like Ctrl+Alt+T for terminals. :) |
| 22:12.34 | abrotman | craigevil: in Debian ? |
| 22:12.39 | craigevil | nope |
| 22:13.17 | xeon-enouf | mjmt: heh -- i see now openbox gives me options related; openbox openbox-gnome-session openbox-kde-session openbox-session |
| 22:13.20 | craigevil | but they do have a debian howto, http://www.iredmail.org/install_iredmail_on_debian.html |
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| 22:21.08 | a7x | someone may help with a fail while loading local filesystem? |
| 22:21.15 | a7x | (debian sid just installed) |
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| 22:30.23 | anoob | My wireless network is marked as "Automatically connect to this network" but it doesn't connect when I boot up my computer ... |
| 22:30.34 | _DomY-Dom | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. I pressed enter without looking : http://paste.debian.net/171313/ look what just got deleted off my server…. how can i fix stuff please help me my websites are not functionning and can't access phpmyadmin, tried to reinstall it but got this http://paste.debian.net/171312/ |
| 22:30.52 | anoob | sorry, in Wicd and Debian testing |
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| 22:34.02 | _DomY-Dom | Ok basically more calmly, I have managed to reinstall apache2 but cannot reconfigure it apparently.. |
| 22:34.18 | themill | _DomY-Dom: what did you do to remove /sbin/runlevel? Do you actually want awstats? |
| 22:34.34 | _DomY-Dom | themill: /etc/apache2/conf.d/awstats.conf |
| 22:34.43 | _DomY-Dom | themill: i have the conf file |
| 22:34.52 | themill | I know that... do you actually want awstats? |
| 22:34.59 | _DomY-Dom | themill: yes |
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| 22:35.32 | _DomY-Dom | themill: I just messed up my apache though… by deleting that whole set off files.. when removing iRedMail http://paste.debian.net/171313/ ... |
| 22:35.52 | _DomY-Dom | themill: look at line 202 to 220 |
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| 22:36.18 | themill | what a mess |
| 22:37.00 | _DomY-Dom | themill: yes… my websites aren't working anymore… I can just view the phpmyadmin login and arrgh I'm so stupid not to have paid attention and just pressed enter.... |
| 22:37.14 | _DomY-Dom | themill: tell me there is a way of fixing it, the websites were very very important. |
| 22:37.50 | themill | "restore from yesterday's backup before you started breaking everything" would be one very easy approach... |
| 22:39.31 | _DomY-Dom | themill: I should just be able to do that from my host right ? |
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| 22:40.32 | _DomY-Dom | themill: ?? |
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| 22:41.36 | themill | _DomY-Dom: that entirely depends on whether your hoster does that for you or not. I assume that you would be keeping backups of very important websites.... You should be able to fix this box from the position it is in but it's going to be a lot of work. |
| 22:42.00 | forestbird | whoa, that script killed off some stuff... :) |
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| 22:42.06 | themill | _DomY-Dom: so... why don't you have /sbin/runlevel? |
| 22:42.36 | a7x | maybe he removed that too :P |
| 22:43.12 | twanny796 | what are the files in /var/lib/dpkg/info? |
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| 22:44.32 | themill | twanny796: the files that dpkg uses to configure/install/upgrade/remove the packages on your machine |
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| 22:45.38 | twanny796 | themill: can these files be re downloaded ? |
| 22:45.49 | themill | twanny796: what are you really trying to do? |
| 22:46.34 | twanny796 | themill: trying to re install asterisk configuration files |
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| 22:47.32 | themill | twanny796: the config files aren't there. The easiest approach is normally to delete the config files if you've modified them, and then have dpkg reinstall the relevant package with the confmiss option. Make sure you reinstall the right package and /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 22:49.10 | themill | twanny796: if you only want the odd file, then "aptitude download asterisk-config" will get the package and various tools like mc can let you extract an individual file from the .deb |
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| 22:55.10 | twanny796 | themill: yep, how can I work with .deb files? |
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| 22:55.46 | themill | twanny796: I normally use mc; you can always use "mkdir /tmp/foo; dpkg -x foo.deb /tmp/foo" |
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| 23:02.32 | twanny796 | themill: can I install it with dpkg? |
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| 23:04.06 | engla | twanny796: you can with dpkg -i but if you're missing dependencies then you can create a mess |
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| 23:04.18 | themill | twanny796: that won't help unless you use the confmiss option though |
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| 23:06.10 | twanny796 | themill: extracted into /, think it's ok like this ;) |
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| 23:17.52 | ompaul | themill: got a sec? |
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| 23:31.05 | trysten | good day, #debian! |
| 23:31.18 | nvz | sure about that? |
| 23:31.28 | trysten | it's a salutation |
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| 23:31.53 | nvz | well I gave all my money to the girlscouts for those little cookies.. |
| 23:32.00 | nvz | heh |
| 23:33.10 | trysten | what if the girlscouts sold giant cookies http://tinyurl.com/724r4es |
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| 23:40.13 | nvz | I was kidding.. honestly I'd probably be more likely to .. hmm.. maybe I should just say I have no interest in girlscout cookies.. heh |
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| 23:40.58 | neomewmew | and im back |
| 23:41.09 | nvz | neomewmew: meow what? |
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| 23:42.02 | C-Kermit | openSUSE removes from servers the apps for OS releases older than 1 major version number. Their on version 12.x now, can't find packages for version 10.xx any longer. |
| 23:42.18 | nvz | C-Kermit: this is #debian ;) |
| 23:42.18 | C-Kermit | is Debian that way too? |
| 23:42.26 | themill | dpkg: tell C-Kermit about archive.debian.org |
| 23:42.42 | neomewmew | whats the best way to upgrade a fresh debian stable install to testing? |
| 23:42.51 | C-Kermit | themill: thanks |
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| 23:43.05 | themill | C-Kermit: of course, archived releases don't have security support |
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| 23:43.17 | _br_ | neomewmew: change sources.list ; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade ; |
| 23:43.30 | nvz | neomewmew: meow, first you gotta change squeeze -> wheezy in sourvces list, then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 23:43.57 | nvz | though I heard someone mention yesterday there was breakage involving either insalls of or upgrades to wheezy |
| 23:44.02 | themill | does a little IYHTAYS dance |
| 23:44.11 | neomewmew | just change instances of the word squeeze to the word wheezy? |
| 23:44.39 | neomewmew | im normally a slackware user, terrified of breaking things with bad apt changes |
| 23:44.44 | nvz | neomewmew: and comment out the update urls for security and proposed updates.. cause those will 404 as they dont exist in wheezy |
| 23:44.51 | neomewmew | cool |
| 23:45.21 | themill | neomewmew: you might be happier to run stable for a while so you know your way around a debian system before having to face the challenges you will face when running testing. |
| 23:45.40 | thewanderer1 | how do I find out where the "cherokee" package went in Wheezy? |
| 23:45.53 | nvz | senses SNS syndrome comin on meow |
| 23:46.43 | themill | !dbug 670298 |
| 23:47.03 | themill | thewanderer1: ^^ the QA page for the package still exists. |
| 23:47.12 | thewanderer1 | oh. |
| 23:47.12 | xispirito | in my upgrade from Squeeze to Testing, the fontconfig package refuses to update, i have to remove dir, manually in /va/lib...but ks it, update runs fine |
| 23:48.35 | themill | xispirito: yes, this is known and a fix has been uploaded |
| 23:49.50 | xispirito | good |
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| 23:49.54 | neomewmew | about 1.2 gb of downloading sound right for the dist-upgrade? |
| 23:50.36 | xispirito | 2.5 gb here =D |
| 23:50.37 | blip2 | neomewmew: depends what you have installed |
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| 23:51.40 | neomewmew | whatever the defaults for a laptop install were |
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| 23:54.49 | nvz | neomewmew: sounds roughly about the size.. a standard desktop install of squeeze from the net would take up about 2.8gb or so (less for the compressed download of course) |
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| 23:57.28 | neomewmew | i will be very glad when this finishes and i can install the nvidia driver. 600x800 res does not work for me |
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| 23:58.22 | xispirito | i have a old computer with Nvidia Gforce 6200 XFX...the binary driver is horrible on them |
| 23:59.01 | themill | neomewmew: newer nvidia drivers doesn't not require squeeze→wheezy |
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| 23:59.38 | neomewmew | i decided to do the upgrade before installing anything else |
