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| 00:00.55 | magyar | hi, how can i reinstall iceweasel 12.0-7~bpo60+1 on my squeeze box? I need the deb package |
| 00:01.51 | abrotman | so get it from the repo |
| 00:02.07 | dvs | is it still available? |
| 00:02.20 | magyar | abrotman: not sure which one |
| 00:02.35 | magyar | dvs: yeap that is my main concern |
| 00:02.47 | abrotman | magyar: a) why does it need to be reinstalled? b) why weren't you using the latest version ? |
| 00:03.49 | themill | iceweasel 13 from mozilla.d.n has nasty dependencies |
| 00:03.55 | magyar | abrotman: I was using 12.0-7~bpo60+1, than the genius in me wanted to install 13.0-1~bpo60+1 and the rest is history |
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| 00:04.13 | abrotman | it is? |
| 00:04.14 | dvs | themill: Yeah, it's not quite right but it's possible |
| 00:04.18 | abrotman | reads the backscroll ... |
| 00:04.24 | magyar | themill: yeah, believe me I've tired |
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| 00:05.06 | ztag100 | I assume this room includes debian arm, right? |
| 00:05.24 | magyar | and a leg :) |
| 00:05.31 | dvs | !rimshot |
| 00:05.31 | dpkg | BA-DUM-TSHT! |
| 00:05.48 | abrotman | ztag100: it can, but there is also #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net if it's sometihng more specialized |
| 00:06.08 | ztag100 | alright, just checking |
| 00:08.42 | magyar | dvs do tell |
| 00:09.42 | dvs | magyar: I installed two of the prerequisite libraries manually and iceweasel was accecpted as an upgrade. |
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| 00:11.19 | magyar | dvs: lidnspr xulrunner? |
| 00:11.34 | dvs | something like that. |
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| 00:14.07 | magyar | dvs: thanks, will try |
| 00:14.14 | dvs | np |
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| 00:17.47 | magyar | heheh, a bit of f-ing around but it did install |
| 00:17.57 | dvs | told ya |
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| 00:19.56 | magyar | super, it's a bit different form previous versions |
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| 00:21.00 | dvs | magyar: try opening a new tab |
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| 00:21.39 | jagginess | anyone knows of something similar like this? http://keepnote.org/ |
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| 00:22.54 | magyar | dvs, all of the previous tabs i had pop up |
| 00:22.56 | Iridos | only perhaps a hundred or so things kinda similar to it |
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| 00:23.59 | Iridos | I think they're called "editors" |
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| 00:24.46 | GG111 | My System-> prefrences menu is no longer there, after running apt-get upgrade, on Debian 6, and it seems that I cannot use apt-get at all now, just getting broken dep's all the time. |
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| 00:27.51 | engla | GG111: if you have broken packages (in apt's terminology) then you should fix that. apt-get check or so should tell you more |
| 00:28.04 | jagginess | dpkg -C |
| 00:28.05 | dpkg | jagginess: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 00:28.12 | jagginess | ololol.. |
| 00:28.16 | jagginess | "dpkg -C<enter>" |
| 00:28.28 | jagginess | and "apt-get -f install" tries to fix things |
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| 00:29.07 | nsadmin | GG111, a response with as much (needed) info as your question... we would need more details about and and |
| 00:29.23 | GG111 | engla: nsadmin , I'm at it now |
| 00:29.51 | Maccer | If I am to make server-orientated applications, should I target my developement towards stable debian and linux 2.6, or jump into linux 3.2+? |
| 00:30.37 | nsadmin | for one, I'd be curious why your system (which system btw?) -> preferences has anything to do with apt and/or your package db |
| 00:30.54 | GG111 | here is the output of dpkg -C |
| 00:30.58 | GG111 | http://pastebin.com/PrTdbQ5L |
| 00:31.26 | GG111 | jagginess: apt-get -f install did not solve it at the time, ran it again today with no success |
| 00:31.52 | nsadmin | I note in passing a preference for maybe paste.debian.net and against pastebin.com... sec, looking |
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| 00:33.10 | nsadmin | GG111, what was the output of apt-get -f install? |
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| 00:33.40 | GG111 | nsadmin: will pastebin soon |
| 00:34.34 | GG111 | please re-use the previous paste link. |
| 00:34.35 | abrotman | GG111: apt-cache policy binutils .. which version is installed? |
| 00:35.09 | GG111 | abrotman: Installed: 2.20.1-16 |
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| 00:35.47 | abrotman | judd: versions binutils |
| 00:35.48 | judd | Package: binutils on i386 -- lenny: 2.18.1~cvs20080103-7; lenny-backports: 2.20-4~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.20.1-16; sid: 2.22-6.1; wheezy: 2.22-6.1 |
| 00:35.55 | GG111 | I was at the border of just nuking and re-installing the system, you are my last resort :) |
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| 00:37.54 | abrotman | GG111: where's the output of "apt-get -f install" or "dpkg --configure -a" ? |
| 00:38.12 | GG111 | abrotman: I re-pasted it in the same link |
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| 00:38.34 | GG111 | let me do a new one |
| 00:38.46 | abrotman | won't load for whatever reason |
| 00:39.11 | GG111 | here http://pastebin.com/wpPcA2f6 |
| 00:40.08 | Iridos | judd, versions libc6-i686 |
| 00:40.09 | judd | Package: libc6-i686 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze: 2.11.3-3; squeeze-updates: 2.11.3-3; wheezy: 2.13-32; sid: 2.13-33 |
| 00:40.20 | abrotman | GG111: so you've been mixing versoins of Debian ? |
| 00:40.36 | abrotman | GG111: put your sources.list in paste.debian.net |
| 00:40.48 | Iridos | welcome to testing |
| 00:40.51 | GG111 | abrotman: mm.. not sure |
| 00:41.05 | GG111 | mm.. am I runing Debian testing ? |
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| 00:41.20 | Iridos | partly :) |
| 00:41.20 | abrotman | partially it would seem |
| 00:42.13 | kroosec | Not really specific to debian, but is there somewhere where I can find an old version of ModSecurity CRS (Core Rules Set) ? |
| 00:42.21 | GG111 | here is the sources.list http://pastebin.com/223KnWHa |
| 00:42.43 | abrotman | GG111: do you want to run stable or testing ? |
| 00:42.47 | abrotman | squeeze or wheezy? |
| 00:42.52 | GG111 | I did make some chages to it at the time. |
| 00:42.57 | GG111 | abrotman: stable, please |
| 00:43.00 | GG111 | :) |
| 00:43.01 | abrotman | too late ... |
| 00:43.01 | dvs | !beer abrotman |
| 00:43.01 | dpkg | pulls out an excellent Spaten Optimator for abrotman |
| 00:43.20 | abrotman | GG111: you can try to downgrade .. but we can't guarantee it will work |
| 00:43.39 | GG111 | abrotman: How did I get to testing ? |
| 00:43.40 | abrotman | GG111: your best choices a) reinstall b) finish the dist-upgrade to wheezy |
| 00:43.47 | abrotman | GG111: see those source lines for wheezy? |
| 00:43.51 | abrotman | wheezy != squeeze |
| 00:43.56 | engla | abrotman: there's one for sid too |
| 00:44.02 | abrotman | ugh |
| 00:44.05 | abrotman | it's so full of fail |
| 00:44.22 | GG111 | So, at the time I was just pasting away to sources.list and added those lines |
| 00:44.50 | GG111 | so, shall I issue do-relase ? |
| 00:44.52 | engla | how could it go wrong? |
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| 00:45.12 | Iridos | there's only one for sid. the wheezy one is DMM, really |
| 00:45.18 | GG111 | I'm not sure if I recall the command to realse upgrade |
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| 00:46.33 | abrotman | GG111: we don't have "do-release" like ubuntu does |
| 00:46.43 | abrotman | GG111: are you going to run wheezy or squeeze? |
| 00:47.35 | GG111 | I'm kind of lost for squeeze as far as I get from you guys, so,, I |
| 00:47.42 | GG111 | will go with wheezy |
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| 00:48.35 | abrotman | GG111: so you need to remove the refereces to sid and squeeze |
| 00:48.44 | abrotman | GG111: then paste your sources.list again .. let's see what you have |
| 00:48.53 | abrotman | GG111: you can comment out the lines you don't need instead of deleting them |
| 00:49.09 | GG111 | http://pastebin.com/223KnWHa |
| 00:49.34 | abrotman | is that your new one ? |
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| 00:50.57 | GG111 | abrotman: that's the one, I have not changed anything |
| 00:51.08 | swaj | Hey all. I'm trying to install Debian Squeeze onto a RAID 1 disk array with an Intel ICH-based controller. The installer, however, shows each of my two disks independently. Is this normal? If not, how do I get Debian to recognize the array? |
| 00:52.15 | engla | GG111: to start with, lines 7 and 8 are erronous. if you remove those you have left a standard squeeze sources.list |
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| 00:54.30 | GG111 | engla: doing it now |
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| 00:54.46 | GG111 | what's the best command to run once those lines are removed ? |
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| 00:55.01 | dvs | GG111: aptitude update |
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| 00:55.16 | engla | GG111: wait, if you wanted to upgrade to wheezy you need more |
| 00:55.36 | GG111 | engla: if I can stay with the stable that would be the best |
| 00:56.12 | abrotman | you really can't |
| 00:56.13 | engla | well if/how depends on which packages are installed from sid already. |
| 00:56.28 | abrotman | engla: libc6? |
| 00:56.52 | dvs | GG111: Since you added those erroneous lines to sources.list, you can't go back to squeeze without reinstallling. |
| 00:56.53 | GG111 | I'm running this : http://pastebin.com/223KnWHa |
| 00:56.58 | GG111 | no, sorry, |
| 00:57.02 | GG111 | I' |
| 00:57.23 | GG111 | I'm running this :apt-get install gnome-system-tools |
| 00:57.34 | abrotman | !tell GG111 about squeeze->wheezy |
| 00:57.56 | engla | abrotman: I didn't see that. |
| 00:58.04 | GG111 | and getting this : http://pastebin.com/UPdMiKxr |
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| 00:58.53 | GG111 | dvs: OK, so, How can I move up to wheezy completely, and may , by doing that, fix the bad state of my OS ? |
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| 00:59.28 | stew | GG111: which do you want to be running? squeeze or wheezy? |
| 00:59.36 | abrotman | he wants stable, has a wheezy libc7 |
| 00:59.38 | abrotman | 6 |
| 00:59.44 | dvs | 5? |
| 01:00.03 | stew | oh i was reading it backward |
| 01:00.38 | abrotman | as 2 ? |
| 01:00.57 | stew | as he had libc6 from stable and was trying to get libc6-dev from wheezy |
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| 01:02.04 | abrotman | i know, i was being a PITA :) |
| 01:02.50 | GG111 | has the jury reached a verdict ? |
| 01:03.06 | dvs | GG111: have you answered stew's question? |
| 01:03.07 | abrotman | you're in a bad spot |
| 01:03.10 | tommyfun | wipe and reinstall |
| 01:03.21 | abrotman | dvs: yes, he'd prefer stable, but doesn't seem to want to reinstall |
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| 01:03.35 | dvs | gooooooood luck with that. |
| 01:04.24 | GG111 | dvs: Well, I understand that stable==reinstall, so, I'll go with testing, as long as I can go back to installing pacakges. |
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| 01:04.40 | tommyfun | I got to the discussion late, where was the instability exactly? |
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| 01:05.08 | Iridos | he's got wheezy libc6 in a squeeze system and the resulting dependency mess |
| 01:05.12 | dvs | GG111: Then I'd change every instance of "squeeze" with "wheezy" in the sources.list file, then try "aptitude update" |
| 01:05.34 | tommyfun | I agree with dvs |
| 01:05.38 | abrotman | and get rid of the sid lines ... |
| 01:05.43 | tommyfun | I'd try that first as well |
| 01:05.52 | dvs | that's still there? |
| 01:06.07 | GG111 | dvs: OK |
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| 01:07.11 | GG111 | Ok, we're updating.. |
| 01:07.25 | abrotman | we? |
| 01:07.30 | abrotman | checks his system |
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| 01:07.36 | GG111 | yes, me and the computer, we're a team. |
| 01:07.37 | engla | GG111: no time to check your new sources list with your update pals? |
| 01:07.42 | dvs | heh |
| 01:07.57 | GG111 | the heck with it engla , I'm feeling risky |
| 01:08.08 | dvs | you sure have |
| 01:08.09 | engla | it's good to be consistent |
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| 01:09.25 | dvs | sid anyone? |
| 01:09.39 | abrotman | horrible bassist .. keep him |
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| 01:09.49 | GG111 | BTW, what's the diffrence between apt-get and aptitude ? |
| 01:10.07 | abrotman | mostly the problem resolution |
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| 01:13.23 | samuelkadolph | Does anyone know how to the volume controls on my usb speakers work? They generate keycodes when pressed but alsa doesn't change the volume. |
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| 01:14.08 | engla | samuelkadolph: alsa wouldn't do that but some daemon like xfce4-volumed would map key presses to volume changes |
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| 01:14.29 | Diopter | samuelkadolph: ALSA doesn't have any builtin facility to interpret keycodes. pulseaudio can do that, or other audio/volume daemons |
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| 01:14.56 | samuelkadolph | Hmm, good to know. I'll have to try those |
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| 01:18.01 | samuelkadolph | Does xfce4-volumed use x11? |
| 01:19.17 | abrotman | are you using xfce ? |
| 01:19.22 | samuelkadolph | No |
| 01:19.24 | abrotman | judd: info lineakd --release queeze |
| 01:19.25 | judd | Package lineakd (x11, optional) in squeeze/i386: Linux support for Easy Access and Internet Keyboards. Version: 1:0.9-6; Size: 105.5k; Installed: 448k; Homepage: http://lineak.sourceforge.net |
| 01:19.31 | abrotman | eh .. i guess not |
| 01:19.41 | samuelkadolph | It's on an embedded system with no desktop |
| 01:19.55 | abrotman | samuelkadolph: please pick one network to ask |
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| 02:02.27 | phillip69 | hello |
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| 02:17.25 | iluminator101 | how do you pipe any website to audio? |
| 02:19.20 | abrotman | vagueness |
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| 02:24.16 | iluminator101 | abrotman, you like festival or something using w3m or something like that |
| 02:25.21 | abrotman | so try that |
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| 02:30.30 | roboman2444 | ugh |
| 02:30.39 | roboman2444 | im having trouble with my xorg and fglrx |
| 02:30.44 | abrotman | in wheezy? |
| 02:30.47 | roboman2444 | yes |
| 02:30.50 | roboman2444 | testing |
| 02:31.01 | roboman2444 | i tried reinstalling it (from the .run from ati) |
| 02:31.04 | roboman2444 | but still fails |
| 02:31.12 | abrotman | i bet it does |
| 02:31.14 | roboman2444 | want my xorg log |
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| 02:31.23 | abrotman | last i knew, it wasn't compatible with the Xorg in testing |
| 02:31.30 | roboman2444 | up untill a few days ago, it was working fine |
| 02:32.00 | abrotman | right |
| 02:32.10 | duckmanito | quick question about iptables, i'm trying to set a NAT, I have this 2 rules http://pastebin.com/exb3UL7D , the 1st line tells to masquerade the outgoing packets, and the other to accept the forwarded packages from LAN to anywhere? |
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| 02:33.19 | abrotman | duckmanito: there's a #netfilter |
| 02:33.34 | duckmanito | abrotman, I cannot send messages :/ |
| 02:33.36 | duckmanito | there |
| 02:33.58 | abrotman | duckmanito: pastebin fail .. use paste.debian.net |
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| 02:34.18 | abrotman | duckmanito: /msg nickserv help |
| 02:34.27 | abrotman | duckmanito: you have to register |
| 02:34.54 | duckmanito | abramart, oh thanks |
| 02:35.05 | duckmanito | abrotman* |
| 02:35.18 | duckmanito | abrotman: btw, http://paste.debian.net/173424/ |
| 02:35.34 | roboman2444 | here is my xorg log file |
| 02:35.35 | roboman2444 | http://paste.debian.net/173425/ |
| 02:35.57 | roboman2444 | anyone know a fix? |
| 02:36.16 | abrotman | roboman2444: i'd ask #debian-next on irc.oftc.net .. pretty sure there is no fix |
| 02:36.43 | abrotman | or maybe it involves beta drivers |
| 02:37.05 | abrotman | duckmanito: i haven't done NAT with iptables in ages .. the netfilter website has examples though |
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| 02:37.49 | civillian | duckmanito: that will work for simple home internet sharing, what's your actual question? |
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| 02:39.43 | duckmanito | civillian: I'm trying to understand my iptables file well, and I thought that the 2nd line could be a bit permissive |
| 02:40.20 | civillian | duckmanito: it is |
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| 02:41.00 | civillian | like I said though, for a simple home network with just 2 interfaces to route between, it's ok |
| 02:41.27 | nate_ | d |
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| 02:41.44 | nate_ | well this quick bash script I wipped up downloads all the DVD's http://pastebin.com/n1EAs5Xx |
| 02:41.51 | nate_ | just curious is the first only the one that is for installing the os's and all the rest are just for packages you could download via, a package manager? |
| 02:42.22 | duckmanito | civillian: this are my actual iptables rules http://paste.debian.net/173427/ |
| 02:42.24 | civillian | nate_: more or less, that is true |
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| 02:42.58 | nate_ | so you only really ever need to download disk 1 right. |
| 02:43.00 | stew | nate_: yes, the dvds are really only intended for delivering packages to machines which cannot get them from a network |
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| 02:44.50 | nate_ | ok, but mostly today you can just do it thru the net so you really don't need 2- onward iso's. curious I have used ubuntu and other variants what package manager is in just straight debian would it still have apt-get , synaptic ,..etc |
| 02:45.15 | civillian | duckmanito: nice script. however your default policy for OUTPUT is accept yet you add specific accept lines on OUTPUT... pick one or the other to simplify the script |
| 02:45.34 | civillian | also a default policy for FORWARD is insecure |
| 02:45.35 | abrotman | nate_: yes, Debian has the apt tools |
| 02:45.46 | civillian | *default policy of accept, i mean |
| 02:45.48 | abrotman | nate_: most people installing Debian use the netinst, then get the rest from the internet |
| 02:45.58 | abrotman | nate_: and you seem to have broadband |
| 02:45.59 | duckmanito | civillian: that kind of help I need! |
| 02:46.07 | duckmanito | civillian: let me check |
| 02:46.10 | nate_ | does it have a gui version like synaptic or software center? |
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| 02:46.19 | abrotman | yes |
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| 02:47.40 | nate_ | what are they called for debian the gui version or are they synaptic exactly |
| 02:47.49 | abrotman | same things |
| 02:48.47 | nate_ | ok so then I can just have download dvd 1 forgot the rest of the iso's and used synaptic correct, It is provided on the first install disk 1 correct? |
| 02:49.07 | blackshirt | I think yes |
| 02:49.50 | stew | but it shouldn't really matter to you if you install synaptic from the dvd or from the internet, it will be the same exact process |
| 02:50.21 | duckmanito | civillian: http://paste.debian.net/173428/ better? How do I solve the FORWARD policy? I want to have LAN accessing WAN and VNET, but not VNET accessing LAN ("DMZ") |
| 02:50.23 | nate_ | I am going to try both ways just in case, Also is 6.0.5 close to the newest debian version |
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| 02:52.45 | civillian | duckmanito: change line 41 to be: iptables -A FORWARD -i ${LAN} -o ${WAN} -j ACCEPT |
| 02:53.27 | phillip69 | when trying to connect to my wireless connection failed bad password |
| 02:53.41 | duckmanito | civillian: and I set the default FORWARDING policy to DROP? |
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| 02:56.04 | iluminator101 | what are the cool github programs you guys use, that are your favorites? |
| 02:56.21 | abrotman | likes to use iluminator101 |
| 02:56.47 | duckmanito | lol |
| 02:56.53 | civillian | duckmanito: sorry just had my connection drop |
| 02:57.03 | duckmanito | civillian: np man |
| 02:57.30 | civillian | duckmanito: also you'll want iptables -A FORWARD -i ${LAN} -o ${VNET} -j ACCEPT |
| 02:58.05 | civillian | duckmanito: iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT |
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| 02:59.24 | duckmanito | civillian: I don't understand well the diference between a FORWARD and OUTPUT, forward is when the package "moves" between interface A and B, and OUTPUT... ? |
| 02:59.46 | civillian | correct, and output is packets that originate from the linux host itself |
| 03:00.17 | duckmanito | civillian, great! |
| 03:00.27 | civillian | duckmanito: :) |
| 03:00.55 | duckmanito | civillian, I will check that last entries you gave me, but thanks in advance |
| 03:01.58 | civillian | duckmanito: no problems, good luck |
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| 03:06.23 | duckmanito | civillian: "iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT" this line guarantees the "free" movement of packages in previously established connections ? (I will ask you every line!! hehe) |
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| 03:07.16 | civillian | duckmanito: yes, it ensures the return packets are permitted through |
| 03:08.19 | duckmanito | civillian, in my iptable file, lines 34 and 37 , I'm allowing ALL input traffic? :| |
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| 03:08.55 | civillian | duckmanito: you're saying you trust LAN and VNET implicitly |
| 03:09.04 | civillian | duckmanito: do you trust them? |
| 03:09.25 | duckmanito | civillian: I trust LAN, but VNET not.. |
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| 03:10.01 | civillian | duckmanito: ok, take out line 37 and test |
| 03:11.47 | duckmanito | civillian, ok, if I allow INPUT on LAN, it passed through WAN first, and that interface is not fully allowed, right? |
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| 03:12.31 | civillian | duckmanito: sorry I don't understand passed through WAN first.. |
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| 03:13.18 | duckmanito | civillian: sorry, my english is a bit basic, I mean, I'm trusting on that rule because a filter the WAN interface properly? |
| 03:13.40 | duckmanito | I filter* the WAN |
| 03:14.27 | tuv | apt-cacher-ng keeps causing "Hash mismatch" errors while apt-updating. it goes away right after restarting apt-cacher-ng, but then comes back again the next day! |
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| 03:16.00 | civillian | duckmanito: packets coming in from ${LAN} going to your linux machine are accepted, only some packets coming in from ${WAN} are accepted |
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| 03:17.19 | duckmanito | civillian: I understand, it confuses me the router point of view of IN and OUT :) |
| 03:17.43 | civillian | duckmanito: yes it can be confusing sometimes :) |
| 03:18.03 | civillian | duckmanito: it's interesting to note, if you set echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward then FORWARD is never used |
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| 03:18.12 | gnarface | iptables sucks |
| 03:18.38 | civillian | gnarface: thank you for your INPUT. I will FORWARD your query on and ACCEPT any recommendations you have. |
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| 03:18.48 | duckmanito | civillian: haha |
| 03:18.48 | gnarface | haha |
| 03:18.56 | civillian | :P |
| 03:19.16 | duckmanito | iptables is confusing, it's all I'm going to say |
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| 03:19.47 | duckmanito | gnarface, any better options? |
| 03:19.55 | duckmanito | seriously |
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| 03:20.02 | KeyboardingRhino | Do you guys have any experience with something like pf in the BSD world? I wonder how that compares |
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| 03:27.20 | tuv | anyone using apt-cacher-ng? how do i get rid of the "Hash mismatch" errors? |
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| 03:31.11 | cantido | KeyboardingRhino: pf in openbsd is very cool.. the config seemed a lot saner than iptables.. but I just use firehol on debian and it hides iptables :) |
| 03:31.54 | duckmanito | civillian, worked like a charm! |
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| 03:39.03 | roboman2444 | any way to fix this? |
| 03:39.04 | roboman2444 | Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 743: _dl_close: Assertion `map->l_init_called' failed! |
| 03:39.33 | stew | roboman2444: are you a c developer? |
| 03:39.43 | roboman2444 | not really |
| 03:39.46 | roboman2444 | its in psyconauts |
| 03:40.21 | KeyboardingRhino | Another broken humble bundle linux port? :( |
| 03:40.41 | roboman2444 | yep |
| 03:40.52 | roboman2444 | and i dont feel like psyconauts through wine |
| 03:41.40 | stew | roboman2444: what is the library that this happens with? |
| 03:41.48 | stew | roboman2444: (which is probably better for #gcc) |
| 03:41.59 | roboman2444 | its the humblebundle psychonauts |
| 03:42.22 | stew | roboman2444: this is going to end up being something where you call dl_open twice or you dl_close something where dl_open failed |
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| 03:42.40 | roboman2444 | hm |
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| 03:42.47 | roboman2444 | not my code |
| 03:42.53 | stew | so fix it for them |
| 03:43.37 | stew | oh, is this not free software? |
| 03:43.43 | KeyboardingRhino | no |
| 03:43.47 | KeyboardingRhino | it's a proprietary game |
| 03:43.54 | stew | oh, then fuck it, i'm not helping |
| 03:43.59 | roboman2444 | hehe |
| 03:44.07 | roboman2444 | well it is the humblebundle... |
| 03:44.12 | KeyboardingRhino | I would add that it's part of a bundle of games that weren't on Linux before a few days ago |
| 03:44.17 | stew | i don't know what that means |
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| 03:44.29 | KeyboardingRhino | So I imagine they didn't spend a lot of time getting it ready for linux |
| 03:44.51 | roboman2444 | yep |
| 03:45.07 | roboman2444 | LOL |
| 03:45.12 | roboman2444 | this is supermeatboy |
| 03:45.13 | roboman2444 | roboman2444@robofox-laptop:~/supermeatboy$ ./SuperMeatBoy |
| 03:45.14 | roboman2444 | Super Meat Boy: Installed in '.'. |
| 03:45.15 | roboman2444 | Super Meat Boy: Using amd64 version. |
| 03:45.15 | roboman2444 | Segmentation fault |
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| 03:45.26 | KeyboardingRhino | Welcome back |
| 03:45.30 | roboman2444 | lol |
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| 03:51.05 | wlightning | is there a way to apt-get install --reinstall all packages? |
| 03:51.07 | nate_ | other then straight debian what are the other popular debian based distro's that are people using now a days different then the ubuntu family of distro's |
| 03:51.40 | wlightning | I have a fs that I just recovered that has ~200 files missing from /usr/lib |
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| 03:52.17 | KeyboardingRhino | nate_: I installed Crunchbang on my laptop last night when Debian Testing wouldn't install. Didn't care for it that much, so I installed Gnome 3 and ripped out the Crunchbang-specific bits. |
| 03:52.24 | KeyboardingRhino | That's a popular one. |
| 03:52.45 | stew | KeyboardingRhino: you were using the testing installer? |
| 03:52.50 | jagginess | lol |
| 03:53.06 | craigevil | nate_, solusos, salineos, siduction, crunchbang, antiX, lmde, mepis |
| 03:53.50 | nate_ | are those all equivalently easy to install as ubuntu , knoppix ,..etc is |
| 03:53.56 | KeyboardingRhino | stew: I was using the CD image of testing from June 04 |
| 03:54.03 | KeyboardingRhino | stew: said it couldn't install busybox or something |
| 03:54.13 | Rusty1 | kanotix is still out there, somewhere |
| 03:54.19 | stew | KeyboardingRhino: you realize that is a work in progress which is *known* to be broken. so you verified that when the devlopers say "this stuff is broken", they weren't lying. |
| 03:54.55 | KeyboardingRhino | stew: yes, I'm not complaining. I was just telling nate one nice distro based on Debian. |
| 03:55.00 | stew | KeyboardingRhino: you verified this error: http://bugs.debian.org/674100 which you were told to review on this page: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Today |
| 03:55.06 | nate_ | and crunchbang you said you didn't like it what was the problem not the desktop manager you where looking for because I would think any distro in the family would be easy to quickly get the way you want |
| 03:55.40 | stew | KeyboardingRhino: i'm just telling you it was silly to use an image that was labelled "this won't work". if you want to actually instlal testing (instead of testing the next installer), you should install stable and upgrade |
| 03:56.08 | KeyboardingRhino | stew: thank you for that tip |
| 03:56.58 | KeyboardingRhino | nate_: I mainly didn't like all the work I was expected to do to get it working nicely. If I'm going to do that, I might as well just do a minimal install and install the things I want |
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| 03:58.44 | nate_ | what was so hard to get the way you want? |
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| 04:01.38 | craigevil | anyone know what these rcu, rcuc processes are? |
| 04:04.54 | Rusty1 | http://www2.rdrop.com/~paulmck/RCU/whatisRCU.html GIYF craigevil |
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| 04:06.24 | jagginess | anyone here used annotation on videos? |
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| 04:08.37 | craigevil | Rusty1, lol way over my head, at least i know they are legit processes |
| 04:10.05 | nate_ | does debian have a 64bit download for intel I see this 64-bit PC ('amd64') |
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| 04:10.12 | KeyboardingRhino | That is |
| 04:10.28 | KeyboardingRhino | It's just called amd64 because AMD was out with those before intel |
| 04:10.29 | jmarsden | nate_: amd64 is the Intel and AMD 64bit CPu architechture name |
| 04:11.02 | nate_ | so does it work on amd or intel 64 bit chips ? |
| 04:11.07 | jmarsden | nate_: Yes. |
| 04:11.13 | jmarsden | Both. |
| 04:11.40 | nate_ | how intel is different then amd arch machine code ISA or not the same? |
| 04:12.09 | jmarsden | Machine code is the same. Just use it :) |
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| 04:12.48 | wlightning | you should try comparing intel vs arm machine code =P |
| 04:15.05 | stew | nate_: after amd came out wth their 64 bit instruction set, intel started coming out with chips that implemented the same instructions |
| 04:15.45 | nate_ | O shoot it's all on there site just got to read everything http://wiki.debian.org/PackageManagement clears up what package managers there are and the gui question, |
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| 04:17.12 | nate_ | ok ok need to read but one last thing I am curious between the 3 main linux branches redhat , slackware , debian what are most people using percentage wise of each ... and which ones are business useing percentage wises |
| 04:17.17 | beardy | Reflect over AMD processors using the i386 arch the previous 10 years. |
| 04:17.47 | stew | nate_: its crazy, and hard to believe, but the percentages are 7, 7, and 7 |
| 04:17.57 | jamesd | nate_, drop slackware.. add SUSE/openSUSE |
| 04:18.20 | jamesd | at least for bussineses |
| 04:18.50 | nate_ | so there all about equal in usage but what about restricting to business's and custmerize products |
| 04:19.07 | stew | yeah, if you drop slackware and add SUSE, I know this is even crazier, but it is still 7, 7, and 7 |
| 04:19.17 | KeyboardingRhino | haha |
| 04:19.32 | stew | yeah, when you restrict to business it becomes 9, 9, and 9 |
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| 04:19.44 | nate_ | ? |
| 04:19.46 | beardy | Crazy right! |
| 04:19.49 | stew | yeah |
| 04:19.53 | jamesd | no redhat/centos, followed by opensuse, with debian pulling into third because its rare for commercial products to be availbie and supported in debian |
| 04:19.54 | stew | hard to believe |
| 04:20.16 | stew | redhat and cetntos happen to be a complete 50/50 split of redhat users |
| 04:20.35 | stew | jamesd: hmm, your numbers don't agree with mine |
| 04:20.43 | stew | jamesd: where did you get your made up nunmbers? |
| 04:20.46 | beardy | We use 99.97% Debian, where it's linux. |
| 04:20.51 | nate_ | well I thought most business would be using the support based linux's like rhel 90% |
| 04:21.02 | jamesd | fortune 500 comanies and large bussineses. |
| 04:21.13 | cedr | .31 |
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| 04:21.35 | stew | nate_: it really depends on how you measure the number of installs |
| 04:21.37 | dalias | nate_, what did you read? some 15-year-old linux book?? |
| 04:21.54 | wlightning | fortune 500 companies are only 500 companies... hardly a representation of all businesses |
| 04:22.22 | nate_ | ok what is the percent of linux based machine used in the business world to the microsoft machines is it 90% windows and 10% linux/mac |
| 04:22.26 | stew | nate_: i happen to have a pretty reliable method of determining the percentages of linux installs, other people tend to use very unreliable methods |
| 04:22.50 | nate_ | what would that be |
| 04:23.07 | stew | nate_: you say "7" a lot |
| 04:23.09 | wlightning | nate_, are you measuring desktops or servers? |
| 04:23.10 | beardy | Ya the mac is strong. |
| 04:23.26 | dalias | stew, i suspect whatever your method, it has major sampling errors |
| 04:23.34 | stew | dalias: you don't like 7? |
| 04:23.45 | dalias | huh? |
| 04:23.50 | stew | nate_: there isn't really a way of knowing, like, at all, so everyone is guessing. my guess is 7 |
| 04:23.51 | dalias | no idea what 7 means |
| 04:23.59 | stew | dalias: its out of 100 |
| 04:24.03 | nate_ | And I am assuming the 500 top IT company what linux distro's they use would be a good indicator of the industries linux distro;s |
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| 04:24.36 | stew | nate_: what happens when an it company uses more than one |
| 04:24.42 | beardy | Yes. Then I must do as them, becuse the majority of the world are not idiots. |
| 04:24.55 | stew | nate_: it actually turns out that 35 of the top 500 it companies uses debian |
| 04:25.02 | stew | nate_: it actually turns out that 35 of the top 500 it companies uses redhat |
| 04:25.05 | nate_ | or top picks for business world or at least the top pick that an HR guy would want to hire for a linux job position |
| 04:25.14 | stew | yeah, then 35 |
| 04:25.19 | beardy | 70 then? |
| 04:25.26 | cantido | stew: are those stats real? I would have guess RHEL would be massive compared to anything else |
| 04:25.26 | stew | no, its 35 |
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| 04:25.39 | KeyboardingRhino | He's using his 7% method |
| 04:25.40 | stew | cantido: yeah, i pretty much asked everybody |
| 04:25.50 | stew | there are always sampling errors |
| 04:25.53 | cantido | stew: thanks for doing the leg work :) |
| 04:25.58 | stew | right on |
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| 04:26.08 | nate_ | ok then what is the other 30 percent slackware based :) |
| 04:26.10 | jmarsden | !offtopic |
| 04:26.11 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 04:26.18 | cantido | hopes stew is joking |
| 04:26.39 | stew | no this is serious business |
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| 04:26.52 | beardy | bussiness* |
| 04:26.56 | stew | no |
| 04:27.02 | cantido | wonders how many toasters run debian |
| 04:27.24 | stew | cantido: if you look at 200 random toasters, you'll probably find that like 14 or so of them do |
| 04:27.42 | cantido | stew: do they toast the debian logo on the bread? |
| 04:27.49 | stew | no |
| 04:27.53 | stew | 0% |
| 04:28.04 | stew | i checked |
| 04:28.11 | jamesd | stew, you have a nice fantasy live... go to monster.com and do a search nationwide for redhat, slackware, suse, debian see who has the most job opennings. |
| 04:28.37 | stew | jamesd: do you think this is a good way to find out how many people use these? |
| 04:28.42 | beardy | Yes must be nationwide. |
| 04:28.51 | stew | oh, wierd |
| 04:29.07 | cantido | jamesd: if there are no jobs for a distro it could mean that those distros have decent people that don't get fired all that often |
| 04:29.29 | stew | debian has fewer becuase it takes less pepole to use debian becaus it rulez |
| 04:29.34 | cantido | +1 |
| 04:29.38 | stew | i mean run, not use |
| 04:29.38 | jamesd | stew, i just think you don't have a clue what the real world is doing... and btw fortune 500 companies may only be 500 companies but on average most have 2000+ servers in there corp. |
| 04:30.04 | beardy | Most have over 9000 actually. |
| 04:30.28 | beardy | Not including PCs and macs. |
| 04:30.44 | stew | yes, and of those servers, 14000 of then run debian |
| 04:31.17 | stew | dpkg: 14000.0 / (500 * 2000 ) |
| 04:31.18 | dpkg | 0.014 |
| 04:31.23 | stew | hmm wierd |
| 04:31.30 | stew | i expected that to be 7% |
| 04:31.47 | dalias | this is a stupid discussion |
| 04:31.54 | beardy | You have do calculate nationwide duh. |
| 04:32.10 | dalias | anyone who views the distro dichotomy as rh/deb/slack has been in cryo-freeze for the past 10 years |
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| 04:32.50 | cantido | people still use slackware? |
| 04:33.01 | dalias | i doubt slack is used by _anybody_ except hobbyists anymore |
| 04:33.07 | beardy | Small bussiness does. |
| 04:33.32 | cantido | beardy: why slack and not ubuntu? |
| 04:33.49 | beardy | License of the linux. |
| 04:33.51 | dalias | otherwise things are pretty much as expected |
| 04:34.10 | dalias | the dinosaur corps with too much money to spend being stupid are using rh, etc., as always |
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| 04:34.36 | dalias | the successful (but not so big as to be stupid and inefficient) hosting companies (e.g. dreamhost) are all running debian |
| 04:34.40 | stew | something like 7% of small business is using slak in some capacity |
| 04:34.48 | stew | slack* |
| 04:34.54 | dalias | stew, nonsense |
| 04:35.01 | stew | no, really, we counted |
| 04:35.03 | stew | all of them |
| 04:35.13 | dalias | not even 7% of businesses even have an employee who knows what slackware is |
| 04:35.17 | dalias | and there's no way to count |
| 04:35.59 | stew | i'm pretty sure that some of the companies I work for don't know what debian is |
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| 04:36.17 | stew | and you can count like 1,2,3,etc. until you get to 7%, its always 7% |
| 04:36.29 | dalias | that's not irrelevant to the fact that slack has <0.1% deployment in the field |
| 04:36.37 | stew | hmm |
| 04:36.41 | dalias | shut up about your stupid 7's |
| 04:36.44 | beardy | Ya in the field. |
| 04:36.48 | stew | that seems like a liot less then 7% |
| 04:36.56 | beardy | U must be working outside the nation stew lol. |
| 04:37.03 | cantido | who's running slackware in fields? is that for cooling or something? |
| 04:37.21 | dalias | slack is a great hobbyist system and basis for a machine you want to maintain yourself |
| 04:37.40 | stew | its good for running modem pools for dialup server |
| 04:37.47 | stew | don't underestimate! |
| 04:37.48 | dalias | it's prohibitively costly to maintain and keep secured in all but the most trivial deployed setups |
| 04:38.11 | dalias | that doesn't make it bad |
| 04:38.18 | dalias | but it means it's not for business purposes |
| 04:38.20 | stew | no, it makes it 7 |
| 04:38.26 | dalias | 0.07 maybe |
| 04:38.34 | beardy | It creates 7 new jobs each day. |
| 04:38.38 | stew | dpkg: 100 * 0.07 |
| 04:38.39 | dpkg | 7 |
| 04:38.42 | stew | seems right |
| 04:38.44 | dalias | beardy, each decade perhaps... |
| 04:38.58 | dalias | if slack were deployed, it would create millions of new jobs |
| 04:39.14 | dalias | because each system would need multiple full-time admins just to keep it up-to-date and secure :) |
| 04:39.28 | dalias | don't get me wrong, i love slack |
| 04:39.36 | dalias | but the idea that it's used or useful in business is a joke |
| 04:39.43 | stew | its actually easy to keep a distro secure that has no software available |
| 04:40.09 | beardy | Nationwide it is. |
| 04:40.11 | dalias | slack has available whatever you ./configure&&make install |
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| 04:41.19 | cantido | dalias: So you can't install stuff that doesn't use autoconf/automake? sounds a bit shit |
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| 04:42.59 | stew | cantido: you know how debian has like a couple thousand people that maintain packages. slackware has like 7, Patrick Volkerding and 6 other dudes |
| 04:43.51 | cantido | stew: sounds like the same situation as netbsd's pkgsrc or openbsd's ports.. they seem to do ok |
| 04:44.02 | beardy | Most of them have day jobs in the fortune 500 companies and no time maintaining either. |
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| 05:22.28 | Carlitos__ | hi all, I try to install a fresh debian 6 but everytime I try to format the partion stop at 33% any help |
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| 05:28.58 | lasers` | Carlitos__: You probably got a fat hard drive. |
| 05:29.52 | Carlitos__ | lasers`: it is a seagate barracuda 2 tb |
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| 05:30.12 | mz|` | o/ |
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| 05:30.36 | lasers` | Carlitos__: Here you go. I'd recommend you to use much smaller hard drive for OS and keep that 2TB solely for media purposes or such. |
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| 05:32.22 | lasers` | Carlitos__: I have 2TB too. Mounted at /mnt/black_onyx/ -- And that had nothing to do with my OS. 300GB for my OS. It'd be suckass to format 2TB often everytime I want to try new distro or whatever. |
| 05:33.25 | jagginess | Carlitos__, 2 tb, is like 2 floppy disks :p |
| 05:33.38 | jagginess | Carlitos__, make sure 'em disks aren't damaged by the company's scan tools |
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| 05:34.26 | jagginess | Carlitos__, a 2 TB isn't worth it, if you don't have 2 2TB drives.. for at least setting up a RAID1 |
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| 05:36.17 | nirjhor | what package provides libtinfo.so.5 ? |
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| 05:37.10 | mz|` | libtinfo5 libtinfo-dev |
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| 05:38.04 | nirjhor | ImportError:libtinfo.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 05:38.07 | nirjhor | getting this error |
| 05:38.08 | nirjhor | :S |
| 05:38.41 | jagginess | nirjhor, apt-file search libtinfo |
| 05:39.22 | nirjhor | -bash: apt-file: command not found |
| 05:39.23 | nirjhor | root@sarim:~# |
| 05:39.39 | mz|` | apt-cache |
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| 05:39.43 | jagginess | nirjhor, well if its not found then it should be installed. |
| 05:39.46 | mz|` | or aptitude |
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| 05:40.01 | arvind_khadri | nirjhor, you can use dpkg -S |
| 05:40.02 | jagginess | apt-cache search libtinfo , too |
| 05:40.19 | jagginess | no he can't, dpkg -S is only for installed files |
| 05:41.11 | craigevil | axi-cache search libtinfo 1 results found. 100% libtinfo-dev - developer's library for the low-level terminfo library |
| 05:41.21 | nirjhor | root@sarim:~# apt-file search libtinfo |
| 05:41.22 | nirjhor | root@sarim:~# apt-cache search libtinfo |
| 05:41.22 | nirjhor | root@sarim:~# |
| 05:41.23 | nirjhor | :S |
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| 05:41.28 | jagginess | nirjhor, no need to spam other channels.. we gave you the solutions here |
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| 05:41.55 | jagginess | ya.. thanks to ubottu.. now you'r dumping back here again.. bravo |
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| 05:42.13 | jagginess | genious. |
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| 05:42.16 | mz|` | :) |
| 05:42.49 | nirjhor | sorry :( |
| 05:42.57 | nirjhor | i copied the line |
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| 05:43.16 | nirjhor | there is no libtinfo-dev |
| 05:43.18 | nirjhor | on my system |
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| 05:44.13 | jagginess | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libtinfo |
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| 05:50.25 | BuisSse | error asm.ioctls.h No such file or Directory |
| 05:50.32 | forestbird | hi, yesterday I started experiencing the same issue as this guy: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/05/msg00005.html |
| 05:50.41 | BuisSse | does debian kernel headers have that dir? |
| 05:51.09 | forestbird | it seem like on xorg boot internal keyboard/mouse are not "triggered" |
| 05:51.41 | forestbird | udevadm trigger from the console do make them work, i would like to understand why this happens |
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| 05:54.37 | forestbird | I also see nothing in Xorg.log about mouse or keyboard being detected... why does xorg not detect it? it worked until yesterday I had a freeze. after the reboot it was broken. there were not xorg updates. running sid btw. |
| 05:54.59 | forestbird | for now I have manually configured mouse/keyboard in xorg.conf |
| 05:56.17 | craigevil | forestbird, see the last few posts, http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198&p=590656&sid=6a6be6369ef23f00524d33f1a201eb71#p590656 |
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| 05:59.30 | BuisSse | does asm/ioctls.h be available in the debian kernel-headers package? |
| 05:59.36 | forestbird | craigevil: oh, so it is probably this stuff: Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils |
| 05:59.50 | forestbird | craigevil: i even thought about downgrading them :) |
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| 06:00.20 | forestbird | i'll give it a try... thx |
| 06:00.37 | BuisSse^aw | does asm/ioctls.h be available in the debian kernel-headers package? |
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| 06:06.31 | craigevil | BuisSse^aw, yes learn to search, apt-file search ioctls |
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| 06:07.14 | allanozzolo | hello, do u know a way to recover deleted files (i did umount the partition, just to be sure) |
| 06:07.17 | allanozzolo | ? |
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| 06:09.07 | dioz | i got a dell optiplex 330 it's got a g31 express intel chipset w/ a gma 3100 "video card"... squeeze install went flawless but HD video play8back is choppy as heck |
| 06:09.10 | dioz | any suggestions? |
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| 06:09.50 | gnarface | dioz: you mean HD Flash Video? |
| 06:09.56 | dioz | yeah |
| 06:10.00 | dioz | youtube |
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| 06:10.16 | dioz | the youtubes |
| 06:10.22 | gnarface | dioz: :( sorry |
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| 06:10.46 | gnarface | dioz: known issue with Flash. |
| 06:10.57 | dioz | oh, well okay then |
| 06:10.59 | gnarface | dioz: not sure if there's much you can do about it but it'll never be like in windows |
| 06:11.14 | dioz | i never tried a mpeg or anything |
| 06:11.17 | dioz | i guess i should have done that |
| 06:11.22 | gnarface | dioz: yea you should do that first |
| 06:11.46 | gnarface | dioz: if you have a problem with an mpeg then maybe there's a video card driver issue |
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| 06:12.00 | dioz | i checked x.org.log and there was no errors |
| 06:12.06 | dioz | everything else seemed fine |
| 06:12.11 | dioz | just the youtubes HD vids |
| 06:12.14 | dioz | they all chop chop chop |
| 06:12.21 | dioz | i'll check it out again in the morning |
| 06:12.32 | dioz | i googled and it didn't gimme any results |
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| 06:12.36 | dioz | your reasoning sounds solid tho |
| 06:12.57 | dioz | thanks for the help |
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| 06:18.08 | cantido | dioz: flash should have va-api support.. you need to install some intel driver for it IIRC |
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| 06:35.52 | eft | why, when I use apt-get remove xxxx does the command list extra packages that will be installed? |
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| 06:40.24 | mjt | eft: because you're removing something which is listed as dependency for another package you've installed, and apt tries to preserve that and install an alternative. |
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| 06:42.46 | eft | mjt: thanks - you mean other packages must be dependent on xxxx ? |
| 06:42.58 | mjt | yes |
| 06:43.26 | mjt | the chain might be longer but the basic principle is the same |
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| 06:44.22 | mjt | for example, you may have exim mailserver installed, and some package may depend on it. now you remove exim, and apt offers to install, say, postfix. |
| 06:45.10 | mjt | or you remove some library used by exim, so apt has to remove exim too, and again, offers to install postfix. |
| 06:45.24 | eft | mjt: I hadn't considered that - in my case the packages are the vbox additions and I'm using "apt-get remove virtualbox-ose-guest-*" |
| 06:46.20 | eft | I didn't think anything else depended on the virtualbox-ose-* packages |
| 06:46.34 | mah454 | How can fix this problem ? http://paste.debian.net/173448/ |
| 06:46.36 | eft | but there are packages that do |
| 06:46.47 | mah454 | can not run vmware in debian ! |
| 06:46.49 | mjt | for example, virtualbox-guest-x11 depends on virtualbox-ose-guest-utils |
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| 06:48.58 | eft | mjt: so if I use the auto-remove option : apt-get remove --auto-remove virtualbox-ose-guest-* |
| 06:49.10 | mjt | no idea |
| 06:49.20 | eft | it ignores the fact that other packages depend on it? |
| 06:49.23 | eft | ok |
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| 06:50.47 | eft | mjt: thanks for your help, gnight ;) |
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| 06:50.54 | mjt | mah454: you have to ask vmware guys. I've no idea why it is trying to use /lib/modules/preferred/ - this directory does not exist - neither on debian nor on, for example, redhat. |
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| 07:00.53 | OKAN|2 | hi |
| 07:00.55 | OKAN|2 | i need help |
| 07:01.15 | OKAN|2 | how i do static ip in debian ? |
| 07:01.36 | forestbird | OKAN|2: man interfaces |
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| 07:02.26 | forestbird | if you are running network manager you can do it there.... but if not you have to use the above |
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| 07:03.20 | rohanrhu | hi |
| 07:03.33 | rohanrhu | forestbird: we did not |
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| 07:03.49 | rohanrhu | debian is not getting a static ethernal ip |
| 07:04.24 | rohanrhu | we must get ethernal ip as 192.168.2.7 |
| 07:04.42 | dondelelcaro | rohanrhu: so edit /etc/network/interfaces and set up the interface you want to configure appropriately |
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| 07:05.07 | rohanrhu | dondelelcaro: tried |
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| 07:05.49 | rohanrhu | dondelelcaro: but we could not |
| 07:06.01 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: did you try dhclient? |
| 07:06.22 | rohanrhu | dondelelcaro: eth0 not upping when configure /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:06.55 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: yes i tried after configure /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:07.18 | Pro100 | Äîáðîå âðåìÿ ñóòîê |
| 07:07.37 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: Is this a computer plugged into a standard router that's doing dhcp or some other setup? |
| 07:07.44 | Pro100 | íóæíà âàøà ïîìîùü â ïîäêëþ÷åíèè ïðèíòåðà |
| 07:07.49 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: debian running on virtualbox |
| 07:08.08 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: Well it's probably a virtualbox problem not a debian one. |
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| 07:08.35 | forestbird | rohanrhu: did you bridge the network? |
| 07:08.41 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: i do not think |
| 07:08.54 | rohanrhu | forestbird: yes bridged network on vbox |
| 07:08.55 | forestbird | rohanrhu: you can't get an external ip otherwise |
| 07:09.12 | rohanrhu | forestbird: we must get 192.168.2.7 |
| 07:09.18 | rohanrhu | on debian |
| 07:09.55 | forestbird | can you paste the output of: "ip addr" ? |
| 07:10.10 | grzesag_ | can you access any website from debian at this moment? |
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| 07:11.58 | rohanrhu | forestbird: http://pastebin.ca/2159347 |
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| 07:12.52 | rohanrhu | now, running on dhcp |
| 07:13.02 | gyaresu | there you go. |
| 07:13.06 | rohanrhu | but we must get 192.168.2.7 |
| 07:13.22 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: so post your interfaces config |
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| 07:14.10 | rohanrhu | http://pastebin.ca/2159348 |
| 07:14.47 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: That's not set staticly.... |
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| 07:15.25 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: yes i tried after i backup |
| 07:15.50 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: So show us how you set it statically. That's what you want after all. |
| 07:16.07 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: when i set as static, eth0 did not be up |
| 07:16.16 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: SO SHOW US |
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| 07:18.50 | cardamon | Disabling or controlling screen blanking after an interval is one those problems that has 20 seperate solutions, depending on what's causing it, isn't it? |
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| 07:33.07 | pr37 | what's the recommended size for separate /var and /tmp partitions these days? |
| 07:33.15 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: it solved |
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| 07:33.19 | rohanrhu | thank you |
| 07:33.24 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: awesome. |
| 07:33.40 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: Now you can get some packages installed :) |
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| 07:33.46 | jaiekdfsz | hi |
| 07:33.48 | Andorin | I'm trying to flush my DNS. Does Debian use nscd, dnsmasq, bind, or something else? |
| 07:33.59 | Andorin | I haven't gotten any of the three services to restart because they can't be found. |
| 07:35.15 | jaiekdfsz | is it possible for me to install debian with encrypted root / partition also if i have to use that pc in a remote way (ssh) ? problem is: how can i enter the password at boot time if i access it only via ssh ? |
| 07:35.30 | mjt | Andorin: "debian" uses whatever you have installed. |
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| 07:35.40 | mjt | Andorin: all the packages you mentioned are optional. |
| 07:35.51 | Andorin | Oh, I thought one was installed by default |
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| 07:36.03 | Andorin | Anyway, my system is caching my DNS requests /somehow/ |
| 07:36.12 | mjt | and it is trivial to check what do you have installed and running. |
| 07:36.50 | jaiekdfsz | Andorin: just cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 07:37.28 | Andorin | # Generated by NetworkManager <-- Relevant? |
| 07:37.36 | jaiekdfsz | then "netstat -naepcoe|grep -v unix" to see what service is listening on port 53 |
| 07:37.51 | mjt | naepcoe heh |
| 07:37.57 | jaiekdfsz | *-naepco |
| 07:38.06 | mjt | -unl |
| 07:38.11 | mjt | p |
| 07:38.16 | mjt | no matter. |
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| 07:38.38 | jaiekdfsz | mjt: lol, is usually use something like naepco, or aneopc |
| 07:39.12 | Andorin | that command gives a shitload of output |
| 07:39.26 | mjt | so what's in the resolv.conf? |
| 07:39.44 | jaiekdfsz | mjt: -unl doesnt works |
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| 07:39.50 | Andorin | can I just paste four lines in here? |
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| 07:40.07 | mjt | Andorin: what's the nameserver line? |
| 07:40.18 | mjt | jaiekdfsz: it does. |
| 07:40.19 | gyaresu | dpkg: tell Andorin about paste |
| 07:40.31 | mjt | no need to, really |
| 07:40.36 | Andorin | 192.168.1.1 |
| 07:40.43 | mjt | is that your host/ |
| 07:40.44 | mjt | ? |
| 07:40.46 | mjt | i guess not |
| 07:40.53 | mjt | and it looks like your router. |
| 07:41.11 | gyaresu | Andorin: Why do you need to 'flush' you cache btw? |
| 07:41.14 | mjt | that's what caches your dns requests, most likely running dnsmasq |
| 07:41.22 | Andorin | because I'm experimenting with my hosts file |
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| 07:41.35 | mjt | heh |
| 07:41.54 | gyaresu | Andorin: mkay. You can just edit your hosts file and restart your networking. |
| 07:42.03 | mjt | as usual, people are asking for solution to the wrong problem :) |
| 07:42.16 | mjt | there's no need to restart anything |
| 07:42.32 | gyaresu | mjt: That's true. Just tested :) |
| 07:42.32 | mjt | /etc/hosts by default takes precedence over dns lookups, to be able to override stuff locally |
| 07:42.50 | Andorin | apparently it's updated itself |
| 07:42.50 | mjt | it works even if nerwork is completely down |
| 07:42.59 | mjt | who "it" ? |
| 07:43.09 | gyaresu | mjt: It does help to ask 'why' someone is doing something before going down that yellow brick road |
| 07:43.20 | Andorin | Now I can't load facebook.com in my browser (I added 127.0.0.1 facebook.com to my hosts file) |
| 07:43.28 | gyaresu | >< |
| 07:43.46 | mjt | btw, firefox^Wiceweasel DOES cache host lookups. |
| 07:43.47 | Andorin | that is the intention, btwe |
| 07:43.47 | gyaresu | Andorin: I don't think the hosts file does what you think it does. |
| 07:43.48 | Andorin | btw* |
| 07:43.52 | jaiekdfsz | Andorin: nice choice! |
| 07:43.53 | Andorin | oh? |
| 07:44.00 | jaiekdfsz | fb sucks :) |
| 07:44.04 | gyaresu | Oh, you wanted to block facebook? |
| 07:44.08 | Andorin | yes |
| 07:44.16 | gyaresu | voila! |
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| 07:44.24 | mjt | but you didn't block www.facebook.com or any other alternative name or subdomain. |
| 07:44.39 | Andorin | I don't know any of them |
| 07:44.42 | mjt | it is best done in firefox itself, using an extension |
| 07:44.44 | mjt | you do |
| 07:44.59 | Andorin | Is it necessary to block www.facebook.com instead of facebook.com? I didn't think there was a difference |
| 07:45.06 | mjt | lol |
| 07:45.16 | jaiekdfsz | Andorin: i suggest you to have a look to dnsmasq, so you can add domains like *.facebook.com *.fbcn.net etc etc |
| 07:45.17 | mjt | ok, i'm shuttig up now. |
| 07:45.36 | Andorin | c'mon, I'm trying to learn here |
| 07:45.37 | gyaresu | mjt: breath... |
| 07:45.39 | Andorin | and ok |
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| 07:46.32 | gyaresu | Andorin: www. is a CNAME you can point to different computers with example.com and blah.example.com. They are different. |
| 07:46.47 | jaiekdfsz | Andorin: those are different domains. www.facebook.com is subdomain of facebook.com. if you lock ony facebook.com you'll not be able to access facebook.com but you'll be able to access the other one. |
| 07:47.01 | gyaresu | Andorin: Have a look for a dns tutorial. It's interesting stuff. |
| 07:47.02 | Andorin | I see |
| 07:47.03 | mjt | each name is different. it can point to the same thing but the name itself is different, and it is the name which you use in forefox etc. |
| 07:47.08 | jaiekdfsz | Andorin: so, or you block every fb subdomain or you try dnsmask |
| 07:47.25 | jaiekdfsz | *dnsmasq |
| 07:47.57 | gyaresu | and if you're trying to block EVERYONE on your home network from accessing facebook, you'll need to do it in the router. Because it's the DNS server for you network. |
| 07:48.18 | Andorin | I'm not, just my own computer |
| 07:49.12 | jaiekdfsz | Andorin: so try dnsmasq. read its config file, it has examples so you can edit them and make all the FB subdomains point to 127.0.0.1 (local host) |
| 07:49.39 | Andorin | Do I need to install any packages other than dnsmasq itself? |
| 07:50.11 | mjt | does it really matter? |
| 07:50.49 | gyaresu | Andorin: And if it does you can check dependencies via aptitude show dnsmasq (if you care). |
| 07:51.19 | jaiekdfsz | Andorin: no. just install dnsmasq and then type "> /etc/resolv.conf" and then edit dnsmasq config |
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| 07:52.38 | jaiekdfsz | (also, you'll need to specify , in the config, a file that contains a line "nameserver *yourdnsserver" so that dnsmasq can make requests. (change *yourdnsserver with the ip of your dnsserver |
| 07:52.42 | jaiekdfsz | ) |
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| 07:53.46 | Andorin | Clearing my /etc/resolv.conf killed my connection |
| 07:54.05 | jaiekdfsz | hey, is it possible to make a debian installation and set an encrypted root as i sait? |
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| 07:54.09 | jaiekdfsz | *said? |
| 07:54.34 | jaiekdfsz | Andorin: obviously. You have to setup dnsmasq at first |
| 07:54.36 | stummi | hi. when i want to download a changelog with aptitude it fails with the message "E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.". Whats the problem? |
| 07:54.47 | Andorin | right, I haven't figured out how to do that |
| 07:54.49 | mjt | dnsmasq in squeeze is not registered properly with resolvconf/networkmanager |
| 07:54.55 | mjt | in wheezy it does it all right |
| 07:54.59 | Andorin | trying to read through this http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/dnsmasq |
| 07:55.02 | gyaresu | jaiekdfsz: If you're trying to boot and need to put a password in before the os is running then no. |
| 07:55.16 | mjt | gyaresu: why not? |
| 07:55.24 | mjt | this setup has been supported for ages |
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| 07:55.35 | gyaresu | mjt: Because he wants to ssh in. |
| 07:55.40 | Andorin | I found /etc/dnsmasq.conf |
| 07:55.49 | mjt | ssh to enter pre-boot password? |
| 07:56.06 | jaiekdfsz | mjt: ssh to use that pc. |
| 07:56.27 | mjt | well, you have to enter the password on the console |
| 07:56.28 | gyaresu | jaiekdfsz: Is the computer already running at OS level? |
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| 07:56.38 | jaiekdfsz | mjt: so how can i use it if encryption needs that i enter a password at boot time? |
| 07:56.51 | mjt | < mjt> well, you have to enter the password on the console |
| 07:57.02 | gyaresu | jaiekdfsz: It's like asking how to drive a car when you don't have the keys. |
| 07:57.12 | jaiekdfsz | mjt: ah, there's no other way? |
| 07:57.26 | mjt | all other ways are pointless |
| 07:57.35 | stummi | .oO(network + ssh driver in bios *scnr*) |
| 07:57.43 | jaiekdfsz | gyaresu: yes it's running , i'm using it right now to use irc. |
| 07:58.29 | gyaresu | jaiekdfsz: So what's the problem? What's encryption got to do with connecting via ssh? |
| 07:58.42 | stummi | jaiekdfsz, the encryption is on a point *before* anything of your os is loaded. So parts of the os cannot be running before its decrypted |
| 07:58.47 | stummi | ssh is a part of your os |
| 07:59.02 | mjt | actually it is easy to put ssh into initramfs |
| 07:59.25 | gyaresu | mjt: orly? |
| 07:59.33 | jaiekdfsz | gyaresu: i'm using another pc to install debian on that disk. then i'm going to put the disk back in that pc. that pc is a screenless and keyboardless notebook |
| 08:00.06 | jaiekdfsz | i usually access it via ssh *only* , and i though maybe there's some way to use disk encryption. |
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| 08:00.31 | mjt | id's say don't bother with encryption in this case. |
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| 08:03.15 | jaiekdfsz | mjt: ok thanks. just for curiosity (talking about another pc) is it possible to do an installation to obtain an encrypted disk if the installation is done on an ext3 partition that already contains files (aka not formatted) |
| 08:03.20 | jaiekdfsz | ? |
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| 08:04.33 | cads | hey guys, I've nearly run out of space on my root partition, and I'm thinking of creating a separate partition for my /usr directory |
| 08:05.00 | jaiekdfsz | in other words "encrypt a partition preserving its contents" |
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| 08:05.49 | cads | I think that I can boot into some live disk, or perhaps debian's built in recovery mode, copy the contents of /usr to a new partition, and then set that partition to be mounted at /usr |
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| 08:06.05 | gyaresu | cads: Sounds good so far :) |
| 08:06.49 | cads | currently /usr is at 7 gigs - I'm thinking of giving it 16 gigs just to be safe in the future |
| 08:06.59 | zeev | Hi, I try to resize my root partition (LVM) with lvextend -L 30G but it says : Incorrect metadata area header checksum on /dev/sda1 at offset 4096, ... , Insufficient free space: 5296 extents needed, but only 0 available . what should I do? |
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| 08:08.27 | cads | zeev, it sounds like there's another partition right 'next' to your root partition, so there is no space to extend it to |
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| 08:09.36 | cads | you might be able to shrink or move adjacent partitions |
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| 08:09.50 | cads | I don't know what the checksum message is about |
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| 08:10.24 | cads | another idea is to analyze the space usage of your root partition, and consider putting heavy folders onto dedicated partitions |
| 08:10.50 | zeev | cads: how do I move the /home partition? |
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| 08:11.44 | cads | I think gparted allows you to do this (I am not familiar with the appropriate commandline actions) |
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| 08:12.45 | stummi | hm, i cannot start libreoffice in testing atm. I am the only one with this problem? |
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| 08:12.55 | stummi | "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'" |
| 08:13.24 | hyper_ch | hi there, I have written a littel bash script for a servicemenu in KDE and I wonder how that could be packaged into a .deb file. Is there a simple way? Basically the .deb package should upon installation only cope 4 files to a folder |
| 08:13.25 | cads | I've just started calc |
| 08:13.31 | cads | stummi, and I'm in testing |
| 08:13.46 | zeev | cads: if I reduce /home partition - where will the free space occur? between root and home or after home? |
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| 08:14.53 | cads | zeev, if I recall correctly, the partition resize dialog in gparted allows you to drag handles to resize or move a partition either 'left' or 'right' on the drive |
| 08:15.02 | stummi | cads, which java version are you running? |
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| 08:15.28 | cads | stummi: OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.1) (6b24-1.11.1-6) |
| 08:15.43 | stummi | ok, thats what i have too |
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| 08:20.18 | blast_hardcheese | Weird question, what are the buttons on the front of tablet laptop convertables typically called? |
| 08:20.36 | blast_hardcheese | I've got an x220t, the "rotate" button isn't recognized as an X button |
| 08:20.56 | blast_hardcheese | I'm not sure how to even begin my research, since I don't know what that class of button is called. |
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| 08:21.53 | blast_hardcheese | I wrote a script that reads from the thinkpad HDAPS module to figure out which direction the tablet is rotated in, but I can't figure out how to bind that script to the front button |
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| 08:22.32 | proby | good morning , i have a debian distro , when am trying to install anything from synaptic or apt it raises : "Please insert the disk labeled: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20120512-13:45 in drive /media/cdrom/" and i don't know how to solve the problem :( |
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| 08:22.53 | blast_hardcheese | proby: Check out /etc/apt/sources.list (or sources.list.d) |
| 08:22.54 | stummi | proby, remove the cdrom-lines from /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 08:23.08 | proby | ok thanks |
| 08:23.16 | blast_hardcheese | the problem is you installed from a CD, so Debian is trying to check for the packages on the CD instead of going out to the world |
| 08:23.34 | proby | so i just remove the cd lines |
| 08:23.46 | proby | or use package source manager |
| 08:23.48 | proby | *? |
| 08:23.53 | blast_hardcheese | yeah, and if the other lines (deb http://...) are commented, uncomment those. |
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| 08:24.29 | proby | okey clear and good :D |
| 08:24.38 | blast_hardcheese | :) |
| 08:25.30 | stummi | wonders where to start with his libreoffice-problem. I doesn't give any usable output and it doesn't seem to have a verbose param |
| 08:26.17 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: do you use node.js? |
| 08:26.27 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: yep |
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| 08:27.06 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: you can help us |
| 08:27.19 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: I'm new to it but I run one of my apps on it and often I use npm like I might use bash :) |
| 08:27.25 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: What's up |
| 08:27.51 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: we are making a poker game |
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| 08:28.38 | gyaresu | rohanrhu: mkay... Are you sure this wouldn't be better discussed in #node.js ? |
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| 08:29.30 | dsdeiz | hi, anyone happen to know a tool that shows the files that are available on one drive but not on a second drive? |
| 08:29.43 | stummi | diff |
| 08:29.50 | blast_hardcheese | dsdeiz: diff -r |
| 08:29.57 | rohanrhu | gyaresu: already i asking in node.js continuous |
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| 08:30.05 | gyaresu | ok |
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| 08:35.34 | sajanek | hello all |
| 08:36.11 | sajanek | is there an option to make l2tp (version 2) tunnel between two debians and support ppp inside? |
| 08:36.38 | sajanek | if yes, which l2tp deamon should I use (no ipsec) |
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| 08:43.46 | dsdeiz | diff also compares file contents? is it possible to only compare filenames and specify an extension too? |
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| 08:46.56 | nkuttler | dsdeiz: what are you trying to do? |
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| 08:49.14 | dsdeiz | compare files in folder1 and folder2 but they are videos so i'm guessing diff takes time |
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| 08:49.50 | nkuttler | dsdeiz: why compare? |
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| 08:50.27 | nkuttler | dsdeiz: as a quick hack you could run a diff on the ls output i guess, but maybe there's something better |
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| 08:50.58 | dsdeiz | i'm comparing which files exist in one directory and another |
| 08:51.14 | nkuttler | dsdeiz: you already said that, why? |
| 08:51.15 | ChrisH | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.21 | nkuttler | good idea |
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| 08:52.37 | dsdeiz | dunno how much further to explain it sorry. i just need the list of which files exist in one directory and another |
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| 08:54.44 | ChrisH | dsdeiz: I put "how to find duplicate files on debian" into google and one of the first hits was a hint to apt-cache show rdiff |
| 08:55.23 | pr37 | you might as well use fslint to find duplicates |
| 08:55.45 | bps | man uniq |
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| 08:56.11 | dsdeiz | ChrisH: i see. didn't think about that. thanks! |
| 08:56.34 | nkuttler | yeah, md5sum, sort, uniq |
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| 08:57.20 | ChrisH | prefers cksum ... its much faster then md5sum :) |
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| 08:57.42 | dsdeiz | things like rdiff and rsync compares file content though right? so i guess it'll still take time since the files i have are videos? |
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| 09:00.15 | Fico | Hi. How I have debian sqeeze and I want to download pidgin, but in repository for sqeeze have pidgin some issues with icq protocol, so I need to download it from wheezy repository, but I don't know, how. When I add source to source.list for wheezy, it says, that I need upgrade all packages. Can someone tell me, how can I upgrade only one package, please? Thanks |
| 09:01.02 | nkuttler | !tell Fico about backports |
| 09:01.20 | themill | ,checkbackport pidgin |
| 09:01.25 | judd | Backporting package pidgin in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgadu-dev (>= 1:1.11.0-2), libfarstream-0.1-dev, network-manager-dev (>= 0.9.0) [linux-any]. |
| 09:01.27 | themill | (this is not trivial) |
| 09:01.29 | blast_hardcheese | dsdeiz: pushd $DIR1; ls | sort > /tmp/dir1.txt; popd; pushd $DIR2; ls | sort > /tmp/dir2.txt; popd ; diff /tmp/dir1.txt /tmp/dir2.txt |
| 09:01.46 | blast_hardcheese | dsdeiz: where DIR1 and DIR2 are your two directories |
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| 09:02.20 | blast_hardcheese | Anyway, off to bed. Good luck |
| 09:02.26 | dsdeiz | cool, thx! |
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| 09:03.06 | Fico | nkuttler, themill, thanks. So this is not very easy task? |
| 09:03.22 | nkuttler | gosh where does that nm dep come from.. |
| 09:03.26 | nkuttler | Fico: apparently not |
| 09:03.55 | Fico | okay, anyway, thanks, I will look at this |
| 09:04.10 | themill | nkuttler: so it can know whether or not the network is up so it can do online/offline properly. |
| 09:04.50 | nkuttler | Fico: maybe you can build a backport from testing |
| 09:04.55 | themill | (quite why that is a b-d on n-m not a b-d on some d-bus binding I don't know) |
| 09:05.11 | themill | same version in sid and wheezy |
| 09:05.16 | nkuttler | ah.. |
| 09:05.20 | sonic | hi - i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but maybe someone knows: i was wondering if anyone knew the status of the freeradius package at the moment? it's still version 2.1.10 across stable/testing/sid but 2.1.12 has been the recommended release from upstream for quite some time now. |
| 09:05.36 | Fico | nkuttler, I think, this is too hard for me. I have to read about this at first |
| 09:05.51 | nkuttler | wouldn't pidgin get updates through volatile? |
| 09:06.15 | themill | !dbugs 675698 |
| 09:06.19 | dpkg | #675698:W[freeradius] please package freeradius 2.1.12 (); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:51:01 UTC [] |
| 09:06.31 | themill | nkuttler: that's not that easy to do when you're trying to chase newer versions of libraries though. |
| 09:06.33 | Fico | I don't know. How can I find out this? |
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| 09:06.50 | pr37 | what size should separate partitions for /var and /tmp generally be? |
| 09:06.57 | BuisSse^aw | Hllo everywone, I am facing this error asm/ioctls.h No such file or directory |
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| 09:07.14 | sonic | themill: i see, thanks. would that bug report be the right thing to keep my eye on for a response from the package maintainer? |
| 09:07.17 | nkuttler | pr37: if you have to ask you probably don't want separate partitions |
| 09:07.36 | pr37 | nkuttler, really? |
| 09:07.45 | themill | sonic: there's no response from the maintainer, unfortuantely. If you want to try packaging the new version yourself for your own use, /msg dpkg uupdate |
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| 09:08.06 | sonic | themill: ok, thank you. |
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| 09:08.29 | nkuttler | pr37: imo, yes |
| 09:09.29 | pr37 | nkuttler, perhaps I do want separate partitions because I don't want them on an SSD? |
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| 09:10.29 | nkuttler | would put /tmp on the ssd |
| 09:10.37 | themill | tmpfs? |
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| 09:10.44 | nkuttler | right.. |
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| 09:12.07 | nkuttler | pr37: it really depends on how you use the box. no way to tell |
| 09:12.37 | nkuttler | my /var/ is currently at 10G (on an SSD) |
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| 09:15.25 | pr37 | nkuttler, I figured that. unfortunately I can't tell what size my /var and /tmp were since my hdd with / and /home died |
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| 09:17.39 | nkuttler | pr37: sounds like you should start to make backups. especially if you're switching to SSD |
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| 09:18.00 | bytecounter | Hey @all |
| 09:18.34 | pr37 | nkuttler, all important data is backed up regularly. / isn't really important. |
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| 09:18.55 | nkuttler | heh |
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| 09:18.57 | bytecounter | Short question regarding display resolution |
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| 09:19.35 | Trewas | pr37: unless it's a server where you'd get lots of traffic to logs I wouldn't bother making separate /var, same for /tmp unless you are in habit of using it yourself for compilations, making disk-images, etc |
| 09:19.59 | bytecounter | I use debian in a VirtualBox. After installing the gustAdditions I have my to display, but only a max resolution of 1024x768 per display..what's wrong? |
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| 09:20.48 | nkuttler | !tell bytecounter about resolution |
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| 09:21.26 | bytecounter | nkuttler: Which info you need? |
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| 09:22.09 | bytecounter | Ah..I got the info.. |
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| 09:22.51 | danbee | bytecounter: sounds like it's not yet using the vbox driver for X |
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| 09:23.19 | danbee | Xorg logs will tell you |
| 09:23.42 | pr37 | Trewas, I figured separate /var because of /var/cache since i run testing and /tmp because of compilations |
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| 09:24.53 | nkuttler | pr37: storing the packages on another disk won't change much. most IO comes from installing them anyway |
| 09:25.06 | nkuttler | pr37: unless you mean that your SSD is too small |
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| 09:25.13 | pr37 | 60GB |
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| 09:26.48 | danbee | anybody had any issues using nautilus under openbox? it seems to randomly kill the X session for me |
| 09:26.52 | danbee | running debian wheezy |
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| 09:33.22 | MOHCTP | danbee: watch logs in /var/ |
| 09:34.17 | danbee | MOHCTP: i couldn't see anything useful in the xorg log, anywhere else i should be looking? |
| 09:34.48 | danbee | nautilus seems to be initiating a graceful X shutdown |
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| 09:35.01 | MOHCTP | danbee: you run root-ed xsession? |
| 09:35.06 | danbee | no errors or anything |
| 09:35.13 | danbee | root-eD? |
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| 09:35.21 | MOHCTP | danbee: clean worke-d) |
| 09:35.24 | danbee | the X session is running under my own user account |
| 09:35.44 | MOHCTP | danbee: use thunar instead nautilus! |
| 09:35.51 | MOHCTP | one way |
| 09:36.03 | danbee | yeah, i am for now, would like to get to the bottom of this though! |
| 09:36.03 | nkuttler | thunar++ |
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| 09:40.29 | MO_Handes | is "apt-get install wine" enough for installing wine?! why it downloads only 11mb? |
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| 09:44.14 | bytecounter | where I found the package sources for virtualbox |
| 09:44.15 | bytecounter | ? |
| 09:44.28 | MOHCTP | MO_Handes Filename: pool/main/w/wine/wine_1.0.1-3.1_i386.deb Size: 43972 |
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| 09:44.52 | MOHCTP | bytecounter in google |
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| 09:45.27 | MOHCTP | MO_Handes MD5sum: 7b3196def0d9064f7d382dd00286daec |
| 09:46.23 | bytecounter | Mohctp: Really? I searched..but now I found on virtualbox homepage.. |
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| 09:48.08 | themill | bytecounter: "apt-cache search virtualbox" |
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| 09:51.53 | stummi | bytecounter, apt-get source virtualbox? |
| 09:52.43 | themill | I very much that he's wanting the source for virtualbox. |
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| 09:52.55 | bytecounter | I found 4.1.0, but 4.1.12 needed |
| 09:53.06 | stummi | themill, i thought he want the package-source |
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| 09:53.15 | stummi | the upstream is on virtualbox.org |
| 09:54.27 | themill | stummi: "package source" is frequently used by people looking for a source for packages (i.e. a repository) not the source code for packages. |
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| 09:55.22 | starenka_ | hi, im trying to allow normal user to run supervisorctl as root, so i;ve tried starenka ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/supervisorctl |
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| 09:55.48 | starenka_ | but i got some permission errors, as supervisor uses socket, which is not allowed to be read by anybody but root |
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| 09:55.57 | starenka_ | how can i solve this? |
| 09:56.09 | starenka_ | is runnig the command w/ sudo solution? |
| 09:56.16 | starenka_ | how can i do that? |
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| 09:56.21 | starenka_ | sorry for dummy question |
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| 09:58.59 | starenka_ | heh |
| 09:59.03 | starenka_ | works, sorry |
| 09:59.05 | starenka_ | have a nice day :D |
| 09:59.22 | themill | !next |
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| 10:00.08 | avernos_laptop | how can permanently do this export PATH=$PATH:~/my new path to binaries |
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| 10:00.52 | xand | avernos_laptop: put it in ~/.bashrc |
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| 10:48.49 | puchu | hi |
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| 10:50.33 | puchu | im using debian 6 and the networkcard always seems to crash after copying files over with ssh - it nearly instandly hangs when i use tar +ssh to copy file over from the debian machine to my local machine - bringing the interface down and up again doesnt solve the problem - i always have to reboot the pc to get working networkcard again - what could i do to fix this bug? |
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| 10:51.07 | puchu | i always thought debian stable is stable ;) |
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| 10:52.07 | nkuttler | puchu: nothing in the logs? |
| 10:52.14 | nkuttler | could be a hardware issue as well |
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| 10:53.59 | puchu | nkuttler: nothing in dmesg |
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| 10:54.09 | puchu | i get an instant "crash" when i do ssh welle@10.0.0.12 "cd /mnt/foo; tar czf - alarpcode" | tar xzvf - |
| 10:54.14 | puchu | welle=debian |
| 10:55.02 | nkuttler | puchu: but other network stuff works? things that generate a lot of traffic? |
| 10:55.08 | puchu | tar on my local machine and copy it over with ssh works better - but i also had the problem in this "direction" |
| 10:55.22 | puchu | no the networkcard isnt reachable anymore |
| 10:55.29 | nkuttler | works better? as in crashes randomly? |
| 10:55.43 | nkuttler | puchu: first guess: heat issue, try other NIC |
| 10:56.02 | puchu | the laptop is completly cold i dont think its an heat issue |
| 10:56.14 | puchu | in widows on the same laptop the card works as it should work |
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| 10:57.04 | r4co0n | hello. I would need some help with finding a suitable 2d/3d geometry plotting program for debian, please. I want to produce images as seen in school mathematics books when covering geometry.. |
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| 10:58.13 | puchu | nkuttler: it uses the atl1c module |
| 10:58.31 | puchu | when i rmmod it and modprobe it again it says failed with error -5 |
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| 10:59.23 | nkuttler | puchu: uname -a? |
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| 10:59.46 | puchu | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 10:59.56 | puchu | original debian kernel - no mods |
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| 11:00.46 | nkuttler | hmmm, i think there were many updates to the kernel module since then |
| 11:00.56 | puchu | how can i update the kernel |
| 11:00.58 | nkuttler | might be worth a shot trying a new kernel. 3.1+ probably |
| 11:01.15 | puchu | in debian with aptitude |
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| 11:01.24 | nkuttler | puchu: /msg dpkg backports |
| 11:01.34 | Shadowcat | hey guys |
| 11:01.46 | Shadowcat | what's a good channel to ask about crm/cms systems? |
| 11:02.28 | nkuttler | puchu: doesn't seem to be anything newer though http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
| 11:02.29 | p0g0 | plone and drupal both have channels... |
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| 11:02.57 | puchu | nkuttler: an error message here but the same symptoms - dead network card |
| 11:02.58 | puchu | http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2012/05/msg00234.html |
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| 11:04.04 | nkuttler | puchu: /msg dpkg kp to build your own, not that easy though |
| 11:04.14 | Shadowcat | p0g0: we might have to change hosting companies |
| 11:04.34 | Shadowcat | we have 30,000 clients and our database consists of Microsoft Works, FileMaker, and an online CRM using Microsoft Access |
| 11:04.57 | bartus | hello, I'm looking for the way to append tags/data.stamp to may script output using pipe redirect and sed. Can someone explain to me why this construction is not working: "exec 3>&1;./test.sh |sed "s/^/[tag stdout `date.log`] /g" 1>&3 2>&1 | sed "s/^/[tag stderr `date.log`] /g";exec 3>&-". Tags on stderr is not applied. |
| 11:05.03 | babilen | !tell puchu -about bdo kernel |
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| 11:05.23 | puchu | nkuttler yeah i dont wanna do this - i know how to compile and configure kernels but i do it on gentoo where i dont need a initrd |
| 11:05.23 | babilen | curses dpkg |
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| 11:05.56 | nkuttler | !bdo kernel |
| 11:05.56 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are distributed via backports.debian.org. Ask me about <bdo> to add backports to your sources.list correctly, then run "aptitude update". To list available backported kernel image packages: aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'. To install a package (e.g.): aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` |
| 11:06.03 | Shadowcat | babilen: dpkg is mad at you, you were it knows you were cheating on it with rpm |
| 11:06.25 | nkuttler | puchu: look into backports ^^ |
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| 11:06.29 | babilen | puchu: You can quite easily install a kernel from backports. Just enable it as detailed on http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ and then install linux-image-ARCH (e.g. linux-image-amd64 if your architecture is amd64, 686-pae if i386, ...) |
| 11:06.30 | Shadowcat | uhh... syntax error there but you understand what I mean :P |
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| 11:06.52 | Shadowcat | you don't _need_ an initrd for debian... I've used kernels without them before |
| 11:07.00 | nkuttler | Shadowcat: #web, or /msg alis help |
| 11:07.03 | puchu | thanks for you help i will try it |
| 11:07.14 | puchu | you/your |
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| 11:12.28 | Sgt_Lemming | so... having issues with my server's file system being read only |
| 11:12.34 | MOHCTP | Shadowcat initrd do kernel rather? |
| 11:12.54 | Sgt_Lemming | in /etc/fstab it's showing as UUID=d4d583bc-cc33-4006-9b04-fe72ea4c5090 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 11:13.10 | Sgt_Lemming | any simple way to be able to get it back to normal? |
| 11:13.18 | Sgt_Lemming | or is that saying my raid is dying? |
| 11:13.22 | stummi | Sgt_Lemming, mount -o remount,rw / |
| 11:13.31 | stummi | but you should do an fsck first |
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| 11:13.48 | stummi | an ro-mount can indicate some problems with your fs |
| 11:14.10 | Sgt_Lemming | fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to re-open /dev/sda1 |
| 11:14.11 | Sgt_Lemming | e2fsck: io manager magic bad! |
| 11:14.13 | Sgt_Lemming | sigh... |
| 11:14.19 | MOHCTP | Ugly_Duck loOooOol |
| 11:14.45 | stummi | Sgt_Lemming, i would boot it via an live-system and do an offline-fsck |
| 11:15.01 | Sgt_Lemming | it's in a datacentre stummi >_< |
| 11:15.24 | Ugly_Duck | hiya, i am installing quota, i have split my drive in to var, home, / etc, does quota have to be enabled in / and home to enable the quota or just /home |
| 11:15.43 | stummi | doesn't your hoster provide something like a rescue system, Sgt_Lemming? |
| 11:15.47 | Ugly_Duck | MOHCTP: :) |
| 11:15.53 | Sgt_Lemming | no, they are rather shit. |
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| 11:16.37 | stummi | Sgt_Lemming, is it a vserver or a rootserver? |
| 11:16.49 | Sgt_Lemming | ...? |
| 11:17.01 | Sgt_Lemming | it's a physical server I own in a co-hosted datacentre |
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| 11:17.09 | stummi | ah, ok |
| 11:17.23 | Sgt_Lemming | no ipkvm, no remote reboot cause they are dodgy fucks |
| 11:17.43 | stummi | however, i think you have to ask them for help in this case |
| 11:17.47 | Sgt_Lemming | entirely possible the discs in have died |
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| 11:18.39 | stummi | cause fs problems on the root-fs cannot be fixed in general |
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| 11:19.34 | stummi | Sgt_Lemming, yeah, thats what i would assume. But your system seems to can boot and "just" have some problems with the superblock, so the chance is good you can still take a backup before it completly crashes |
| 11:19.53 | Sgt_Lemming | there is nothing important on it stummi |
| 11:20.10 | Sgt_Lemming | a minecraft server, which I have multiple backups of, and some other game servers |
| 11:20.32 | Sgt_Lemming | thanks for the help anyway |
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| 11:27.16 | Ugly_Duck | whats the best doc to read to harden a linux kernel? |
| 11:29.43 | garo | Replace your kernel by: int main(int argc, char **argv) {while(1){}; return 0;} |
| 11:30.10 | stummi | garo, may you should add a sleep(1) or so |
| 11:30.27 | stummi | so the kernel does not use too much cpu resources |
| 11:30.29 | stummi | Ugly_Duck, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 11:30.33 | garo | no really, i don't think there is 1 doc that you can read and magically have a supersecure system |
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| 11:31.04 | Ugly_Duck | stummi: already reading that, but thought someone might know of a condensed version |
| 11:31.31 | stummi | Ugly_Duck, the condensed version is this from garo. Or just pull out your ethernet cable |
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| 11:31.59 | themill | pulling the power cable is more secure than pulling the ethernet cable though |
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| 11:32.43 | nkuttler | Ugly_Duck: are you sure you mean the kernel only? |
| 11:32.51 | Ugly_Duck | nkuttler: yes |
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| 11:33.17 | nkuttler | Ugly_Duck: what kind of attacks do you want to protect yourself against? |
| 11:33.20 | stummi | Ugly_Duck, why would someone want just secure his kernel? |
| 11:33.53 | Ugly_Duck | nkuttler: was reading about hardening a system, part of that is the kernel, then processes, firewall etc |
| 11:33.54 | nkuttler | multi user system in an otherwise secured network? |
| 11:33.54 | stummi | i think the kernel itselfs is one of the smallest security issue on a linux system |
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| 11:34.01 | nkuttler | ,,, |
| 11:34.10 | nkuttler | stummi: well.. |
| 11:34.56 | nkuttler | Ugly_Duck: security is a layered thing. if you want to protect yourself against network attacks.. you secure the network first |
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| 11:35.13 | nkuttler | anyway, there is no condensed manual for security |
| 11:36.11 | stummi | kernel security is just relevant if somebody untrusted already on the system |
| 11:37.49 | Ugly_Duck | stummi: ok, thanks, that makes sense, just got 2 x DL380 G4 and installed Debian on it, want to set it up as a webserver, the other as a mysql server |
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| 11:38.40 | stummi | Ugly_Duck, then you should reading about web/net security at first |
| 11:38.54 | stummi | rule one: avoid php and php applications if possible ;) |
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| 11:39.13 | Ugly_Duck | man, all i know is php |
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| 11:39.43 | nkuttler | oh well.. |
| 11:39.45 | stummi | you could learn python/django or perl for example |
| 11:39.51 | Ugly_Duck | they're both behind a firewall |
| 11:40.40 | stummi | thinks like wordpress or phpmyadmin are huge security risks imho, cause there are expoits found more or less regulary |
| 11:40.53 | stummi | also joomla etc |
| 11:40.55 | Ugly_Duck | true |
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| 11:46.14 | Ugly_Duck | i brought my first server... was so happy |
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| 11:46.41 | Ugly_Duck | got to the place, they had two DL380's for sale and a ML350, so brought all three, then rang up and brought the last ML350 |
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| 11:57.25 | judgen | if i want to run lets say xterm or any other app outside of the windowmanager, how would i do this? |
| 11:57.42 | judgen | is the "override_redirect" usable on binaries somehow? |
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| 12:06.05 | anunakki | ok, so i'm more of a freebsd user, but i have clients who use debian, and i run debian on a few of my vps, in freebsd you can limit a unprivileged user to their own processes during a ps aux |
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| 12:06.23 | anunakki | in freebsd you'd just sysctl security.bsd.see_other_uids=0 |
| 12:06.32 | anunakki | what is the equiv for debian, if there is one? |
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| 12:07.46 | jelly | anunakki: no such functionality in the default kernel, but the grsecurity patchset has it (among lots of other things) |
| 12:08.03 | Nach0z | Dammit. jelly inb4'd me. >_< |
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| 12:10.02 | JyZyXEL | EXT4-fs (dm-0): ext4_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 659527 |
| 12:10.06 | JyZyXEL | are those saved somewhere? |
| 12:10.21 | JyZyXEL | didn |
| 12:10.27 | JyZyXEL | didn't see anything in lost+found |
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| 12:18.28 | netcrash | Hello, is there anyway I can from a tfp network install specify the configuration details of the server instead of having to go throught the menus? |
| 12:18.54 | jhutchins_lt | Ugly_Duck: "brought" is the past tense of "bring". |
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| 12:24.32 | Enekoos | hello |
| 12:25.27 | Enekoos | any can play DungeonKeeper II in wine? |
| 12:25.45 | Enekoos | $ wine DKII.exe |
| 12:25.45 | Enekoos | fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32e9c0,0x00000000), stub! |
| 12:26.30 | themill | guess that's a "no" |
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| 12:29.39 | babilen | Enekoos: Why don't you ask in #winehq? |
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| 12:30.07 | tvm | enekoos: check the winehq appdb website for more information |
| 12:30.22 | Guest44065 | Hey guys, need some help with partition table restoring - somehow it got fucked up since my last boot for my external drive. So now fdisk -l returns me /dev/sdb doesn't contain valid partition table. I had LUKS patition which i need like hell from need. Any suggestion how can i restore the table? |
| 12:30.23 | Enekoos | I don't know this I go, thanks |
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| 12:31.37 | ghhgh | Is there any way to mount a filesystem and let it show up to the system as a harddrive? |
| 12:32.19 | babilen | ghhgh: What are you trying to do? What do you mean by "show up to the system as a harddrive" ? |
| 12:32.36 | ghhgh | I'm trying to let it show up as a harddisk |
| 12:32.48 | ghhgh | So the system thinks it's an harddrive |
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| 12:33.20 | babilen | A filesystem is *never* a harddrive even if the filesystem in question is on a block device. What are you trying to achieve by that? |
| 12:33.55 | ghhgh | I want my filesystem to show up at the OpenMediaVault web ui |
| 12:34.21 | ghhgh | There isn't any way to do this, so I thought: maybe I can create a virtual harddisk (which will shop up I guess) |
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| 12:35.02 | spaeti | hi, could anybody please tell me how to pass the results of a find command to a program which expects a call like: program -i infile1 -i infile2 -i infile2? xargs or sthg? Thank you! |
| 12:36.03 | babilen | ghhgh: I would ask in #openmediavault about ways in which you can configure OpenMediaVault (which is not Debian, not packaged for Debian and not supported in here) |
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| 12:37.00 | ghhgh | It has 2 ways, as a package you can add to the Debian Repo's, and just apt-get install openmediavault |
| 12:37.00 | babilen | spaeti: Read http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind and use "-exec ... \;" |
| 12:37.07 | ghhgh | Or as a distro itself (which is debian + some packages) |
| 12:37.16 | ghhgh | What do you mean with not packaged for debian? |
| 12:37.53 | babilen | ghhgh: OpenMediaVault is not packaged for Debain AFAICT -- At least I can find no package in *the Debian archive* . |
| 12:38.02 | spaeti | babilen: thank you! |
| 12:38.08 | ghhgh | babilen: it's not in the default repo's |
| 12:38.23 | ghhgh | You'll have to edit sources.list and add it there |
| 12:38.26 | babilen | ghhgh: Yes and therefore not packages by Debian and not supported in here. |
| 12:38.38 | ghhgh | Hmm |
| 12:38.46 | ghhgh | so where then |
| 12:39.10 | babilen | ghhgh: But even it were in Debian I wouldn't know anything about it and couldn't help you with its configuration. My advice would be the same: Ask in #openmediavault |
| 12:39.24 | ghhgh | Nobody knows it there |
| 12:40.01 | babilen | Read documentation in that case -- I have no idea how OMV decides what it displays in its UI |
| 12:40.42 | alessandro_91_ca | Hi to all, I'm new to IRC.. I love the open source world, and i want to contribute. How i can contribute to debian? I'd love to become a debian developer |
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| 12:42.08 | allorder | alessandro_91_ca: http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ |
| 12:42.42 | babilen | alessandro_91_ca: Read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-contributing + http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2010/12/how_to_contribute_to_Debian/ |
| 12:43.54 | spaeti | babilen: sorry, but I can't seem to find how to pass the found files one by one to each -i switch there ... |
| 12:45.30 | babilen | spaeti: Ah, in that case I misunderstood what you are trying to do. I can't really think of an easy way to do it from the top of my head :-/ -- Might want to ask in #YOUR-SHELL (e.g. #bash) or #YOUR-FAVOURITE-PROGRAMMING-LANG (e.g. #python) |
| 12:45.55 | spaeti | babilen: okay, thank you very much; bye |
| 12:46.01 | babilen | Good luck |
| 12:46.29 | spaeti | thx! |
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| 12:52.55 | dpkg | MOHCTP: i haven't seen 'troller' |
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| 13:00.31 | ghhgh | http://1.nl.eu.org/i/kV7.png |
| 13:00.34 | ghhgh | Did I do something wrong? |
| 13:01.54 | ghhgh | https://paste.nl.eu.org/JhdseNWO |
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| 13:03.25 | nkuttler | ghhgh: can you ping the gateway? |
| 13:03.43 | ghhgh | ping 192.168.178.1 works |
| 13:04.12 | ghhgh | https://paste.nl.eu.org/hYABuDpt |
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| 13:04.38 | nkuttler | ghhgh: ping 46.252.26.177 |
| 13:04.49 | ghhgh | works |
| 13:04.53 | nkuttler | hm |
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| 13:06.03 | nkuttler | ghhgh: dig packages.omv-plugins.org |
| 13:06.23 | ghhgh | -bash: dig: command not found |
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| 13:06.50 | nkuttler | ghhgh: install dnsutils |
| 13:08.02 | ghhgh | nkuttler: can't |
| 13:08.10 | nkuttler | ghhgh: error? |
| 13:08.32 | ghhgh | https://paste.nl.eu.org/NKslRQ8x |
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| 13:08.45 | nsadmin | let's give him a numeric ip for source |
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| 13:08.57 | nkuttler | ghhgh: looks like your DNS is broken |
| 13:09.09 | nsadmin | ghhgh, could you pls paste your sources.lig? |
| 13:09.15 | ghhgh | lig ? |
| 13:09.18 | nsadmin | list |
| 13:09.26 | nsadmin | it's in /etc/apt/ |
| 13:09.41 | ghhgh | https://paste.nl.eu.org/ENCk6p9B |
| 13:09.48 | nkuttler | ghhgh: if you configured your network manually you need to set up your resolv.conf |
| 13:10.01 | ghhgh | what do i need to put in there? |
| 13:10.21 | nsadmin | temporarily you could put nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
| 13:10.55 | nkuttler | ghhgh: usually you get the nameserver from your provider, or just from your router |
| 13:11.25 | ghhgh | what is my routers nameserver? |
| 13:11.31 | ghhgh | nsadmin: I dont want google |
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| 13:11.43 | nkuttler | ghhgh: you have a router? why don't you use DHCP? |
| 13:11.59 | ghhgh | because I don't want my server to have another ip address each time |
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| 13:12.20 | nkuttler | most routers support static dhcp |
| 13:12.31 | nkuttler | oh well maybe not most |
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| 13:12.48 | nkuttler | ghhgh: or try your router's ip as nameserver |
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| 13:14.37 | ghhgh | aint working |
| 13:14.49 | nkuttler | !doesn't work |
| 13:14.50 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 13:15.14 | ghhgh | same error |
| 13:15.27 | nkuttler | oh well use google then or read your router's manual.. |
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| 13:16.08 | nsadmin | ghhgh, is your router a small blue plastic thing? |
| 13:16.15 | nsadmin | like a linksys |
| 13:16.16 | ghhgh | no |
| 13:16.24 | ghhgh | Ubee |
| 13:16.25 | nsadmin | ]oh, what is it? |
| 13:16.28 | ghhgh | modem/router combi |
| 13:16.33 | nsadmin | oic |
| 13:16.41 | ghhgh | ? |
| 13:16.48 | ghhgh | same error; (-5 - No address associated with hostname) |
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| 13:19.11 | nsadmin | ok, I'm sure your purpose in solving this problem is to get your net fully working (the physical connection is working like a champ), so you can webbrowse and install packages... I have that part correct? |
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| 13:20.17 | slav3_kitten | ok stupid question time! |
| 13:20.30 | nsadmin | is not :P |
| 13:20.31 | slav3_kitten | how do i get udhcp to push option 150 out to some cisco phones |
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| 13:21.01 | slav3_kitten | in options are i stuck "opt 150 192.168.10.1" |
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| 13:22.28 | slav3_kitten | it also seems not to be pushing lease to anything on the network which i'm trying to figure out at the same time |
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| 13:23.37 | ghhgh | anyone who can help me out? |
| 13:24.17 | nsadmin | ghhgh, well the permanent solution is to put some name server in your resolv.conf |
| 13:24.58 | nsadmin | one possibility is google, you don't want that, another is your isp's, we haven't found that, a third is for you to run a name server |
| 13:25.08 | babilen | ghhgh: What does "nslookup debian.org 8.8.8.8" give you? What about "nslookup debian.org" ? |
| 13:25.29 | nsadmin | he doesn't have nslookup (no dnsutils, can't install packages) |
| 13:25.37 | babilen | ah :( |
| 13:26.09 | nsadmin | but the "can't install packages" can be solved quickly |
| 13:26.27 | themill | ghhgh: you're ircing from this machine though, aren't you? |
| 13:26.35 | babilen | ,info dnsutils --release squeeze |
| 13:26.36 | judd | Package dnsutils (net, standard) in squeeze/i386: Clients provided with BIND. Version: 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze4; Size: 150.9k; Installed: 388k |
| 13:26.53 | babilen | Should be in the standard set of pacakges -- ghhgh didn't you install the standard task? |
| 13:27.04 | themill | yay for people not installing standard task :( |
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| 13:28.19 | nsadmin | ghhgh, ok, could you back up your /etc/apt/sources.list (maybe by copying it to your home dir) |
| 13:28.19 | nsadmin | slav3_kitten, sec; be with you shortly |
| 13:28.41 | slav3_kitten | take your time, looking for a large hamer ^.^ |
| 13:29.34 | babilen | ghhgh: Ok -- Can you resolve hostnames (e.g. "ping debian.org") when you enter "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in your /etc/resolv.conf? What is in there right now? |
| 13:30.03 | nsadmin | is aiming at installing a name server |
| 13:30.51 | babilen | Sure -- We could ask ghhgh to install, say, pdnsd -- but we still need to get DNS working beforehand. |
| 13:31.15 | babilen | is still not sure what the actual problem is ghhgh is facing |
| 13:31.46 | nsadmin | right, what we can do is have him backup his sources.list, then replace the urls with numeric so he can install packages, install a name server, restore the backup |
| 13:31.56 | nsadmin | pretty sure he can't resolve |
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| 13:32.45 | themill | or we can just fix is /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 13:33.00 | nsadmin | what address? |
| 13:33.16 | nsadmin | and, how do we find the one he's "supposed" to use? |
| 13:33.58 | themill | there are many public dns servers he can use. |
| 13:34.05 | nsadmin | he doesn't want to use 8.8.8.8, perhaps not even temporarily |
| 13:34.12 | babilen | nsadmin: We can use an open DNS server for the time being. Google's or OpenDNS or Verizon or ... |
| 13:34.37 | nsadmin | babilen, themill: cool :) address? |
| 13:34.49 | themill | !opendns |
| 13:34.49 | dpkg | OpenDNS is a service allowing faster and more secure DNS resolution. Uses the nameservers 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220. http://www.opendns.com/ #opendns on irc.oftc.net. See also <googledns>, <override dns>. |
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| 13:35.15 | babilen | nsadmin: Or the super old-school 4.2.2.4 (and variations) |
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| 13:35.37 | nsadmin | ghhgh, echo "nameserver 208.67.222.222" > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:35.42 | babilen | But I have the impression that ghhgh lost interest in resolving this problem anyway. |
| 13:35.50 | nsadmin | then try ping yahoo.com |
| 13:35.53 | nkuttler | still? |
| 13:36.05 | ghhgh | Do I have to reload the configuration or something? |
| 13:36.10 | babilen | ghhgh: No |
| 13:36.12 | nsadmin | nope |
| 13:36.14 | ghhgh | yahoo works |
| 13:36.27 | babilen | ghhgh: What doesn't work? |
| 13:36.29 | nsadmin | excellent :) now you can install packages |
| 13:36.31 | nkuttler | ghhgh: why don't you just unbreak your network config? seriously.. read your router manual and configure static dhcp |
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| 13:37.10 | nsadmin | ghhgh, want to use your own nameserver? |
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| 13:37.14 | ghhgh | yes |
| 13:37.19 | nsadmin | considers bind9 |
| 13:37.36 | abrotman | do you know any others? |
| 13:37.55 | babilen | recommends pdnsd (why not something simple?) |
| 13:38.03 | themill | ghhgh: why do you want to do that? |
| 13:38.07 | nsadmin | there's dnsmasq, but that just forwards? |
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| 13:38.22 | ghhgh | themill: because I want it to work |
| 13:38.23 | nsadmin | babilen, that caches? |
| 13:38.25 | themill | all dns server are ultimately just going to forward the request... |
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| 13:38.37 | babilen | nsadmin: sure |
| 13:38.37 | nkuttler | well, not all of them |
| 13:38.46 | ghhgh | which dns server does my pc uses then? |
| 13:38.53 | themill | ghhgh: so what you really want is a working connection, not necessarily to run a dns server on this machine |
| 13:39.05 | ghhgh | I want static ip |
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| 13:39.15 | nkuttler | he doesn't want to use DHCP |
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| 13:39.33 | babilen | Ok, just configure it that way. |
| 13:39.44 | abrotman | what does static IP have to do with running your own DNS ? |
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| 13:39.56 | themill | abrotman: nothing :S |
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| 13:40.17 | themill | ghhgh: you're ircing from this machine though, aren't you? |
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| 13:40.36 | babilen | And then proceed by installing the standard task with, for example: "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant" and upgrading the system "apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade" |
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| 13:40.58 | znull | nsadmin : hello, I got raid 10 hardware http://paste.debian.net/173493/ ( from what I know it should /vz only 2TB no?) |
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| 13:41.28 | nsadmin | ok, pdnsd it is. ghhgh, aptitude install pdnsd |
| 13:41.28 | nsadmin | ones that are not installed on your system (presently, the one from opendns) |
| 13:41.28 | nsadmin | before that, none. |
| 13:41.28 | nsadmin | let me know when your install is complete |
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| 13:41.45 | nsadmin | waht was that?! |
| 13:41.50 | abrotman | why does he need his own DNS again? |
| 13:42.30 | nsadmin | he said he wanted it |
| 13:42.37 | nkuttler | abrotman: because his static network config broke it |
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| 13:42.50 | abrotman | that doesn't mean he needs his own DNS? |
| 13:42.53 | nkuttler | well, that's why he needs DNS, not necessarily his own |
| 13:42.54 | nkuttler | yeah |
| 13:42.58 | abrotman | he just wants a static IP .. |
| 13:43.03 | nsadmin | it's his box; it's not up to me to be his parent by constantly checking on what he needs or doesn't need |
| 13:43.18 | nkuttler | and he doesn't want to use a public nameserver apparently |
| 13:43.28 | nkuttler | like, the evil google one |
| 13:43.34 | abrotman | or his ISPs ? |
| 13:43.34 | nsadmin | well specifically he said google |
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| 13:43.52 | nsadmin | abrotman, presently we don't know it |
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| 13:44.27 | ghhgh | why isnt it just working :S |
| 13:44.36 | ghhgh | normally I set this without nameservers and it works out of the box |
| 13:44.38 | ghhgh | static ip |
| 13:44.53 | themill | actually, ghhgh hasn't said much at all... there's been lots of leading questions and putting words in his mouth. |
| 13:45.08 | nsadmin | ghhgh, we think it's not "just working" because your router isn't doing dncp |
| 13:45.27 | abrotman | what? that'd never happen here .. |
| 13:45.32 | nkuttler | nono, he disabled dhcp |
| 13:45.34 | themill | nsadmin: the router's not doing dhcp now? when did that happen? |
| 13:45.37 | ghhgh | but when i do dynamic ip it works |
| 13:45.49 | themill | ghhgh: right... so you need to configure your /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:45.59 | ghhgh | to what? |
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| 13:46.12 | abrotman | the DNS server you want to sue |
| 13:46.13 | abrotman | use |
| 13:46.19 | abrotman | don't sue the DNS |
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| 13:46.48 | themill | ghhgh: hang on.. did you do that a few minutes ago and said that it was working now? |
| 13:47.09 | ghhgh | Hmm, when I set it to dynamic |
| 13:47.12 | ghhgh | It gets nameservers nameserver 212.54.35.25 nameserver 212.54.40.25 |
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| 13:47.23 | nkuttler | so use that for now |
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| 13:48.26 | babilen | Both of those servers time out for me (which doesn't mean that the same holds true for ghhgh) |
| 13:48.34 | babilen | ghhgh: What is the problem with that? |
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| 13:50.11 | sysdef | anyone has a link for me how to install Qt (PerlQT) (cpan or apt) in squeeze? |
| 13:50.54 | aguitel | is anyone compile qbittorrent ? |
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| 13:51.18 | sysdef | ...or someone who just solved the issue and know the answer |
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| 13:52.12 | abrotman | sysdef: apt-cache search perl qt ? |
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| 13:52.16 | babilen | sysdef: Are you looking for libqtcore4-perl ? Or what is "the issue" ? |
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| 13:52.21 | nsadmin | nkuttler, oh, you mean in his interfaces file |
| 13:52.22 | nsadmin | ghhgh, so the dynamic IP, part of that, is it hands your server a dns to put in its resolv.conf |
| 13:52.22 | nsadmin | that's why that works |
| 13:52.23 | nsadmin | themill, we put an opendns server there for the moment |
| 13:52.23 | nsadmin | it won't survive a reboot tho, that has to be solved |
| 13:52.23 | nsadmin | maybe we install resolvconf |
| 13:52.26 | nsadmin | , versions qbittorrent |
| 13:52.27 | nsadmin | the irc servers are getting attacked? |
| 13:52.27 | judd | Package: qbittorrent on i386 -- lenny: 1.1.0~rc1-2; squeeze: 2.2.11-1; sid: 2.9.8-1; wheezy: 2.9.8-1 |
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| 13:53.11 | nsadmin | aguitel, so qbittorrent is available as a package |
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| 13:53.46 | aguitel | nsadmin: but last version have bugs |
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| 13:54.12 | nsadmin | what version is that? what debian release are you running? |
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| 13:54.13 | sysdef | babilen: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CMad6jg1 |
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| 13:54.49 | babilen | sysdef: You have a local perl installation in /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 (which is, naturally, not supported by us) |
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| 13:55.39 | abrotman | sysdef: also see dh-make-perl .. good luck |
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| 13:55.56 | babilen | sysdef: Or wait -- That is not necessarily the case. Which module to you need for perl in order to be able to "use Qt;" ? |
| 13:55.59 | themill | nsadmin: why wouldn't /etc/resolv.conf with a static network config survive a reboot? |
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| 13:56.58 | abrotman | themill: because when it boots up and gets a dhcp address .. OHHHH wait .. You're tricky .. |
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| 13:57.19 | ghhgh | works now |
| 13:57.20 | ghhgh | thx |
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| 13:57.57 | babilen | sysdef: Are you looking for http://perlqt.sourceforge.net ? |
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| 13:58.05 | gyaresu | themill: You could add a dns-nameservers entry to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:58.25 | nsadmin | themill, good pt |
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| 14:00.02 | sysdef | babilen: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/perl looks like 5.10.1 is actual stable |
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| 14:01.22 | nsadmin | sysdef, that one would be installed in /usr... the one in /usr/local may be one you compiled yourself |
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| 14:01.46 | babilen | There isn't necessarily one in /usr/local (it is just part of the default search path) |
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| 14:02.09 | nsadmin | oh, good point, so he should run which perl |
| 14:02.30 | nsadmin | err echo ". $(which perl)" (for irc) |
| 14:02.32 | babilen | sysdef: Which module do you want to use in Perl? Do you have a CPAN link? Or *some* information about the actual module. The Debian package I pointed out was a shot in the dark and I am *not* proficient in Perl, let alone Perl+QT |
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| 14:03.36 | sysdef | i think it's http://search.cpan.org/~awin/Qt-0.03/Qt.pm |
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| 14:04.15 | abrotman | nsadmin: what is tghat echo command supposed to do ? |
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| 14:05.33 | slav3_kitten | ok, got the dhcpserver working |
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| 14:05.46 | nsadmin | abrotman, put a ". " before the path |
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| 14:06.02 | nsadmin | slav3_kitten, yay! |
| 14:06.10 | babilen | sysdef: That software was published in 1997 -- I am almost sure that it is not what you are looking for. |
| 14:06.13 | abrotman | nsadmin: and do WHAT with it? |
| 14:06.26 | nsadmin | echo it on his terminal |
| 14:06.27 | slav3_kitten | said screw udhcpd and did an isc-dhcpd-server |
| 14:06.34 | abrotman | oh dear god |
| 14:06.38 | abrotman | /usr/bin/perl |
| 14:06.55 | abrotman | are you using mirc from 1999? |
| 14:07.04 | nsadmin | no, xchat |
| 14:07.27 | nsadmin | never used mirc... isn't that a ported windows client? |
| 14:08.22 | nsadmin | aside from which it is not me whose client could respond to / at start |
| 14:09.30 | abrotman | but it's you telling him the commands .. |
| 14:09.49 | abrotman | maybe he'd just prefix your name .. |
| 14:09.50 | nsadmin | and you're still asking me what client I run when that's irrelevent? |
| 14:10.10 | nsadmin | maybe. |
| 14:10.17 | abrotman | no, just a pattern .. |
| 14:10.29 | nsadmin | ahh. something from the past. |
| 14:10.39 | nsadmin | got it... |
| 14:10.55 | abrotman | skeptical |
| 14:11.09 | nsadmin | parental. |
| 14:12.42 | sysdef | babilen: i think i'm searching for http://search.cpan.org/~ggarand/PerlQt-3.008/PerlQt/Qt.pod ? |
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| 14:14.12 | babilen | sysdef: I have no idea -- You clearly want to do something and read a document explaining that online. Which document is it? I would also recommend to ask in #perl and/or #qt |
| 14:14.15 | Enekoos | se despide |
| 14:14.44 | sysdef | i never needed a GUI for my perl programs since i'm a server engineer/admin. i just wanna try to use QT GUI |
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| 14:15.14 | babilen | sysdef: Why do you think that "use Qt;" is the correct way to do that? |
| 14:15.23 | sysdef | babilen: people in #perl have no idea, too. ^^ |
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| 14:16.07 | sysdef | according to some (old) howtos. looks like perl+Qt isn't popular. seems most are using GTK |
| 14:16.58 | babilen | sysdef: You might be looking for libqtgui4-perl, but I have on idea how to use it. You can search for related packages with the command abrotman mentioned some time ago (i.e. "apt-cache search perl qt") |
| 14:17.07 | babilen | s/on/no/ |
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| 14:18.01 | nsadmin | and/or you can also google for perl qt support |
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| 14:18.48 | nsadmin | , versions tcl |
| 14:18.50 | judd | Package: tcl on i386 -- lenny: 8.4.16-2; squeeze: 8.4.16-2; sid: 8.5.0-2; wheezy: 8.5.0-2; experimental: 8.6.0-1 |
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| 14:19.22 | nono | hello |
| 14:19.33 | sysdef | i'll have a look at libqttest4-perl. maybe i'll be smarter later the day :> |
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| 14:19.41 | sysdef | thank you for your effort! |
| 14:19.52 | nono | i need help running ocsinventory on squeeze, anyone wanna help please ? |
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| 14:22.24 | babilen | nono: You might want to ask in #ocsinventory-ng or at least tell us what your problem is. |
| 14:24.37 | nsadmin | nono, what docs have you read so far? what have you learned from them? where exactly are you stuck? |
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| 14:25.01 | nono | ok, i installed ocsinventory 205 on my squeeze server, apache is running fine but if i try to access http://localhost/ocsinventory it returns 404 |
| 14:25.46 | nono | i m at work, and pretty newbie with apache php and ocs :) |
| 14:25.47 | nsadmin | nono, ok, what happens when you try to access http://localhost/? |
| 14:26.02 | nono | it works fine i got response from apache |
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| 14:26.51 | abrotman | nono: did you look in the error logs to see what it says? |
| 14:26.59 | sam203__ | #flood |
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| 14:27.32 | nono | abrotman: problem is i m a bit lost, i was before coming here trying to locate that |
| 14:27.47 | abrotman | nono: /var/log/apache2/ most likely |
| 14:27.53 | nono | i look |
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| 14:29.24 | nsadmin | 404 seems pretty simple... nono, do you know where the install of ocsinventory has placed its web files? |
| 14:30.45 | nsadmin | also, look closely at the 404 message that comes from the web server... does the path it shows match the path you entered? |
| 14:30.59 | nono | no idea, last time i succeed ocs install (abou 1 year ago) it was on /etc/ocsinventory but i cant find it here with ocs 205 |
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| 14:31.26 | babilen | nono: Please also read /usr/share/doc/ocsinventory-server/README.Debian (and other docs therein) |
| 14:31.33 | nsadmin | nono, ok, how did you install ocsinventory? |
| 14:32.00 | nono | running setup.sh from the file downloaded on ocs site |
| 14:32.05 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 14:32.13 | vitaliel | Hello, is it a known bug in Debian wheezy that I can not create a mirrored lvm device: lvcreate -m1 -L 5G -n hm1 vg00? kernel 3.2.0-2-amd64, Errors: LV vg00/hm1_mlog in use: not deactivating, Aborting. Failed to deactivate mirror log. Manual intervention required. Failed to create mirror log. |
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| 14:32.35 | nono | all looks fine i only got ;)'s except from some optionnal perl stuff |
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| 14:32.55 | babilen | nono: Please ask #ocsinventory for support -- ocsinventory-server is packaged for Debian and the *only* way to install it that is supported by us via the package. |
| 14:33.02 | nsadmin | ahh, ok for that, you would need to consult their website... you may or may not be able to find someone who is able to support you here... |
| 14:33.04 | babilen | ,v ocsinventory.server |
| 14:33.05 | judd | No package named 'ocsinventory.server' was found in i386. |
| 14:33.08 | babilen | ,v ocsinventory-server |
| 14:33.09 | judd | Package: ocsinventory-server on i386 -- lenny: 1.01-6; squeeze: 1.02.2-1.1; sid: 2.0.5-1; wheezy: 2.0.5-1 |
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| 14:33.44 | nsadmin | nono, which version of debian are you running? |
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| 14:34.00 | babilen | nono: You can backport the version from wheezy or sid by following "/msg dpkg ssb" -- But you now have to figure out how to get rid of your installation and hope that it did not overwrite anything of importance. |
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| 14:34.29 | nono | i m running squeeze 604 |
| 14:34.44 | JustVPSTest | Hello averyone! I need help please! i some time ago rent a server(vps) and i try ti understand what in chennel in my server - hosting company tell - 100Mb/sec - i need to check it! I don't have another server for check it :( Please help - i shared one file ("World of Tanks" distrib. - http://worldoftanks.com/) - and please - if you can - start download this file just for 5-10 min - and i can |
| 14:34.45 | JustVPSTest | see in what channel i have in server! This is link to file: http://108.170.22.205/WoT_0.7.3_us_setup.rar (distr. in rar arch.) Tnx for every one who help me!!!!! |
| 14:34.53 | nsadmin | nono, ls /var/www does ocsinventory exist there? |
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| 14:35.43 | babilen | nsadmin: That really is out of the scope of the channel. nono should just install the Debian package and I can assure you that the likelihood of it working is quite high. |
| 14:35.45 | nono | nsadmin: no |
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| 14:36.04 | nono | ok babilen |
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| 14:36.24 | babilen | nono: Please uninstall your ocsinventory installation and install the ocsinventory-server package from Debian. (backport it from sid if you need the newer version) |
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| 14:37.02 | nono | oh yes i didnt think bout that :/ i wanted latest version |
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| 14:37.08 | nsadmin | babilen, agreed... looks like it can't be found anywhere on his system |
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| 14:37.30 | nsadmin | nono, is this for you personally? |
| 14:37.36 | nono | stupid me i have to add sid mirror for ocs so it install from sid version ? |
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| 14:37.54 | nsadmin | no, you add a deb-src for sid |
| 14:38.11 | DasEi | my real support question : since some time I get annoying comresetmessages from my hd's sata connection, tried as lot as I could think of, it's very limited in throughput (from about 80 to 20 MB/s) , and syslog/dmesg spilled with messages like http://www.anonbin.com/652971083, even a new hd has this behaviour , any hint ? (sry if repost, was disrupted) |
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| 14:38.38 | nono | i m at work i have a lenny + 0cs 1xx running but i installed it like 1 year ago at least , and thru package, |
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| 14:39.18 | nsadmin | nono, ok, and is this server in production at your work? |
| 14:39.29 | nono | i tried to install things independently but i dont have enough knowledge to check all |
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| 14:39.57 | nsadmin | nono, maybe they wrote an automated test suite |
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| 14:40.08 | nono | in production ? sorry my english is not that good |
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| 14:40.30 | nono | i run it only from me, to have quick informations about my workstations |
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| 14:40.40 | nsadmin | nono, is the lenny machine in use by employees of your company? |
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| 14:40.43 | nono | for me not from me :) |
| 14:40.49 | nono | no ... |
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| 14:41.05 | nono | it only runs virtual machines they use |
| 14:41.11 | nsadmin | ok, so it's not considered important for your work |
| 14:41.16 | nono | and host the ocs inventory server |
| 14:41.27 | nono | not at all ;) |
| 14:41.40 | nono | it s only for my work comfort ;) |
| 14:41.59 | nsadmin | ok, so other than that, does your company make use of ocsinventory at all? |
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| 14:42.24 | nono | i run virtualbox + windows station on new squeeze i installed , thats imprtant but i have no problem with that, |
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| 14:43.07 | nsadmin | ok, and does your company make use of ocsinventory? |
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| 14:43.26 | nsadmin | and if so which version |
| 14:43.28 | nono | i use ocsreport eveyday, so i know wich user as wich ip, wich one has this software or another one, who needs more ram in next , etc... |
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| 14:43.45 | nono | its 103 i think |
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| 14:44.12 | nsadmin | nono, I see. so, you use ocsinventory in order for you to support emoloyees |
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| 14:45.10 | nsadmin | yes? :) |
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| 14:45.44 | alex- | https://paste.nl.eu.org/xqrw1qTd |
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| 14:46.08 | nkuttler | alex-: you could really use a pastebin with a valid cert.. |
| 14:46.18 | alex- | valid cert costs money |
| 14:46.19 | nono | yes |
| 14:46.30 | nkuttler | confirming cert costs us time |
| 14:46.52 | sacredchao | My Debian server has terrible UTF-8 support on the command line... it can't display filenames with characters like ú or € or japanese characters, etc. |
| 14:46.55 | nono | we have about 100 comp running w2k or higher and nearly each of them has different hardware |
| 14:47.09 | sacredchao | However, my locale is configured to be en_US UTF-8 |
| 14:47.14 | sacredchao | What am I missing? |
| 14:47.22 | nkuttler | sacredchao: works for me. which terminal? |
| 14:47.34 | nono | and has a fixed IP so i need infos nearly every day acessing my ocsreport page, |
| 14:47.39 | sacredchao | nkuttler: I am logged in via SSH |
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| 14:47.43 | nsadmin | nono, ok. would you be willing to install a fresh squeeze (or maybe wheezy) on, say, a vserver and then try installing the debian ocsinventory-server on that? |
| 14:47.54 | sacredchao | it works on my local terminal |
| 14:48.13 | nono | nsadmin: that s what i m tryin ;) |
| 14:48.34 | nsadmin | oh, ok :) |
| 14:48.59 | nono | nsadmin: i first checked package but i saw it was same old version, i was curious to see ocs 205... |
| 14:49.22 | nkuttler | sacredchao: which local terminal? |
| 14:49.44 | nono | so i tried to install from bash all things needed , php apache perl etc... but i m to noob to link everything correctly to make this run lol |
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| 14:49.51 | nsadmin | right, that's why I suggested the possibility of wheezy (and for now, you leave the running lenny alone) |
| 14:50.33 | nono | nsadmin: to install ocs from sid on my squeeze server i just have to add deb line in sources file ? |
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| 14:51.04 | nsadmin | nono, sid and squeeze are not meant to mix |
| 14:51.16 | nsadmin | so you would have to backport |
| 14:52.02 | nono | ow |
| 14:52.19 | nono | is that dangerous for my health ? |
| 14:52.19 | nono | :) |
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| 14:52.30 | nsadmin | no, but remember I am not a doctor |
| 14:52.55 | nono | lol backport is rebuild from sources files ? |
| 14:53.03 | nsadmin | yes |
| 14:53.40 | nono | erm i think it will be harder for me than tryin to fix things as they are now |
| 14:53.48 | nsadmin | the issue is mostly depends... if you just install, it could cause your system to bring in sid packages, or uninstall a massive clump of packages |
| 14:54.15 | babilen | nono: Please do *not* install random software from upstream sources. The main reason for using a distribution is that it works hard to provide a set of packages that work together. We will also not be able to support your Frankendebian. |
| 14:54.30 | nsadmin | nono, you're doing this whole thing because you're curious about how it looks? |
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| 14:54.48 | nono | yes, and it makes me learn a lot |
| 14:54.55 | babilen | nono: We have backports for quite a number of packages and it is possible to backport some packages yourself if no backport is readily available on http://backports.debian.org |
| 14:55.13 | nono | i come from W world ;) and i learned all but spending hours on things like that |
| 14:55.21 | nono | all about linux i mean |
| 14:55.57 | sacredchao | nkuttler: What do you mean which local terminal? Which shell am I using? |
| 14:56.06 | nono | ok what i m going to do is install old ocs 1x from package wich runs fine and try on a vm frankenmachine to get the 205 running when i got some time :) |
| 14:56.22 | babilen | nono: Well -- Linux works differently and it is rarely a good idea to download and install software manually. Whenever you do this you should think: "There must be a better way" |
| 14:56.26 | sacredchao | Oh you mean on my laptop? I am using Konsole on my laptop, and UTF-8 chars show fine locally |
| 14:56.37 | babilen | !tell nono -about ssb |
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| 14:56.56 | babilen | nono: The <ssb> instructions should work just fine for ocsinventory-server |
| 14:57.42 | nkuttler | sacredchao: try with an xterm just for fun. that probably won't work, so pastebin the output of locale from your box and the server |
| 14:58.53 | nono | ok babilen thank you, i ll try that next monday |
| 14:59.07 | nono | now its we time :)))) |
| 14:59.12 | nono | Weekend |
| 15:00.20 | nono | thanks for help and advices , have nice day/night/mornin or whatever and a good weekend :) |
| 15:00.24 | nono | byhe all |
| 15:00.32 | babilen | nono: You too. Have fun! |
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| 15:01.57 | sacredchao | nkuttler: xterm with Unicode support has the same problem |
| 15:02.58 | sacredchao | Interesting... xterm with Unicode locally can display most latin-based Unicode characters, but the Japanese ones show up as boxes |
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| 15:04.48 | babilen | I guess that you miss Japanese fonts. The kochi ones are often recommended, but a huge number is packaged for Debian (apt-cache search japanese font) |
| 15:05.03 | themill | sacredchao: that sounds like a font problem for the terminal then -- pick a better font (or install cjk fonts and hope glyph fallback works) |
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| 15:05.38 | themill | sacredchao: the fonts need to be installed at the client end (not the server end of an ssh connection) |
| 15:05.41 | sacredchao | themill: It's not just cjk stuff, but latin characters with accents and umlauts, etc. |
| 15:06.02 | sacredchao | even the euro symbol doesn't show up on terminal on my server for example |
| 15:06.28 | themill | sacredchao: you said you were connecting via ssh earlier -- what terminal on what os are you sshing from? |
| 15:07.21 | sacredchao | Both client and server are Debian and I've tried using both Konsole and xterm with Unicode support (the latter doesn't even show cjk fonts correctly LOCALLY whereas Konsole does) |
| 15:07.42 | sacredchao | I am mainly using Konsole because it's 100% working on my client |
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| 15:07.55 | sacredchao | So I just need the correct fonts on my server probably |
| 15:08.08 | sacredchao | oh wait, just read what you said... |
| 15:08.23 | sacredchao | Maybe I need to install other locales? |
| 15:08.27 | sacredchao | on the server? |
| 15:08.31 | themill | quite possibly. |
| 15:09.02 | babilen | sacredchao: Which locale are you using locally? |
| 15:09.05 | koko_ | hello i have problem for PDC with squeeze https://www.debian-fr.org/samba-controleur-de-domaine-pdc-impossible-d-ajouter-un-pc-t38041.html |
| 15:09.18 | themill | bad locales settings can force a conversion to ascii, I think (fallback is C not C.UTF-8) |
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| 15:11.26 | babilen | koko_: Please note that only a subset of people in this channel is able to read French. |
| 15:12.01 | koko_ | ok sorry babilen |
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| 15:12.23 | nsadmin | somewhere in the world there could be a translator |
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| 15:13.24 | n-iCe | o/ |
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| 15:14.23 | sacredchao | themill, babilen: I just installed a slew of new locales and everything is showing up fine! |
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| 15:14.42 | sacredchao | Including things like ß and ü and japanese characters |
| 15:15.16 | babilen | sacredchao: 非常好! |
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| 15:16.33 | sacredchao | Locally on my client I am using fr_FR.UTF-8 currently |
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| 15:16.51 | nsadmin | sacredchao, so, greek chars? |
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| 15:16.55 | sacredchao | and my server is en_US.UTF-8 but all I had to do was install many other locales on my server |
| 15:17.09 | nsadmin | those are probably in separate font pkgs too |
| 15:17.12 | sacredchao | nsadmin: I installed the el_GR.UTF-8 locale so I assume it will work |
| 15:17.13 | alex- | https://paste.nl.eu.org/xqrw1qTd |
| 15:17.24 | babilen | sacredchao: And, most importantly, fr_FR.UTF-8 I assume‽ |
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| 15:17.43 | themill | yeah, having a locale that matches was ssh sends across the connection is the most important |
| 15:17.48 | nsadmin | do locales include fonts? |
| 15:17.52 | sacredchao | babilen: That's not too important to me, I am a neophye with français |
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| 15:18.41 | themill | nsadmin: no, it's only details of character encodings (and paper sizes, numerical formats, date formats etc -- the important one here is the character encoding) |
| 15:18.42 | babilen | sacredchao: You only need to make sure that the locale *you are using* is enabled. SSH is typically configured to respect the user's local locale settings. (see AcceptEnv in the SSHD config) -- Enabling a locale will *not* magically install suitable fonts, input methods or anything like that. |
| 15:18.48 | sacredchao | nsadmin: In my case, it's possible that themill is correct in saying the fonts on the client connecting via SSH are resposible for rendering what you see in your terminal emulator |
| 15:19.13 | nsadmin | themill, so that means the fonts have to be installed separately? |
| 15:19.37 | themill | of course |
| 15:19.43 | sacredchao | babilen: I installed fr_FR.UTF-8 on the server along with many others like greek, arabic, russian, chinese, many european languages, etc. but the server's locale is still en_US.UTF=8 |
| 15:20.16 | themill | nsadmin: that is a matter of both font codepoint selection (they're all unicode these days) and also glyph coverage. |
| 15:20.18 | sacredchao | Although I notice that the euro symbol is still not showing up on the server |
| 15:20.22 | nsadmin | sacredchao, so you want the default locale to not be that? |
| 15:20.32 | sacredchao | ah wait, there it is, just not in irssi |
| 15:20.34 | sacredchao | ? |
| 15:20.35 | babilen | sacredchao: yes, but now the server has fr_FR.UTF-8 which you asked it to use (by using it locally) -- All other locales were not needed to solve this particular problem. |
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| 15:20.54 | babilen | sacredchao: Or that is, at least, my current theory :) |
| 15:20.57 | sacredchao | babilen: My problem was lack of Japanese characters showing up in filenames |
| 15:21.01 | DasEi | any idea what causes this behaviour ? http://tinyurl.com/c7wk7ez |
| 15:21.09 | sacredchao | I am not sure fr_FR.UTF-8 helped that =P |
| 15:21.41 | babilen | sacredchao: Yes - You asked the server to use fr_FR.UTF-8 which it didn't know about. It therefore had to fall back to C ... Now that you enabled fr_FR.UTF-8 on the server it can use it. |
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| 15:22.11 | sacredchao | Hmm... how can I display currently used locale? |
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| 15:22.21 | themill | "locale" |
| 15:22.55 | DasEi | (comreset, sata down to 1,5g/s, crawling at 20mb/s read/write, lots of settings and even new hd tried, just current stable debian, not so for win or more 'exotic distros) |
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| 15:23.08 | babilen | sacredchao: Your client is configured to use fr_FR.UTF-8. When you connect to the server your client informs it "Hey, I'd like my locale settings to be super-french (aka fr_FR.UTF-8))". Your server is configured with AcceptEnv LANG, LC_* and therefore tries to respect that wish. It has, however, never heard about fr_FR.UTF-8 and falls back to C. |
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| 15:23.54 | themill | I wonder if it can be convinced to fall back to C.UTF-8 these days. (I wonder if it already does that now...) |
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| 15:23.57 | babilen | (That is my model-of-the-world right now -- Not sure if it is correct, but the evidence gathered so far does not contradict it) |
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| 15:25.11 | sacredchao | babilen: Okay but I installed all the locales on my server including fr_FR.UTF-8 but when I log in now it remains un_US.UTF-8 |
| 15:25.52 | sacredchao | I am pretty sure installing the jp_JP.UTF-8 locale on my server made showing japanese characters work, not installing fr_FR.UTF-8 |
| 15:26.30 | themill | sacredchao: the important thing is having client and server agree on .UTF-8 not on the language_country pair. |
| 15:27.20 | themill | babilen: I believe you're correct on this. This is precisely what we've had to fix for a few people sshing in from macos with very broken locale settings recently. |
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| 15:27.50 | Silent_ | Hello everyone |
| 15:27.51 | stew | SUPERFRENCH |
| 15:27.56 | babilen | It gets complicated when the remote shell configuration sets a locale as well ... |
| 15:28.09 | stew | Silent_: BONJOUR |
| 15:28.17 | babilen | hehe |
| 15:28.20 | Silent_ | SHALOM |
| 15:28.22 | Silent_ | :) |
| 15:28.32 | Silent_ | Guys, what is '/usr/X11R6/bin/X' used for? |
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| 15:29.16 | abrotman | Silent_: man X ? |
| 15:29.16 | nsadmin | being a file in a filesystem? could you be more speciric what you're actually curious about? |
| 15:29.19 | stew | Silent_: its the X server. note that X11R6 is obsolete (we are on R7 for years now) and /usr/X11R6 is typically a simlink to /usr if it exists at all, GOOD SHABBOS |
| 15:29.54 | Silent_ | I see |
| 15:30.06 | Silent_ | I asked because I followed this - http://www.linuxtoys.org/multiubuntu/multiubuntu.html |
| 15:30.17 | Silent_ | And I don't have the said file in this location. |
| 15:30.18 | nsadmin | oh ok, |
| 15:30.33 | nsadmin | as mentioned that seems to be normal |
| 15:30.41 | Silent_ | Yeah I see now |
| 15:30.43 | Silent_ | Thanks :) |
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| 15:31.08 | nsadmin | oh, glad you're here... |
| 15:31.33 | nsadmin | note that you could run separate x servers to accomplish your multiseat thing |
| 15:31.55 | stew | Silent_: looks like we moved to r7 in 2005 or so, which should give you an idea of the vintage of this page |
| 15:31.59 | nsadmin | each having a separate config file which specify which net card to you |
| 15:32.02 | nsadmin | to use |
| 15:32.09 | stew | err early 2006 |
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| 15:33.14 | Silent_ | Alright thanks guys |
| 15:33.18 | nsadmin | which video card to use |
| 15:33.18 | Silent_ | I'm off for now. |
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| 15:35.18 | sacredchao | I just changed my locale to eo.UTF-8 ^_^ |
| 15:35.24 | aleminio | is there any sort of alternative to chkdsk in linux to fix ntfs partitions? my ubuntu crashed while resizing the partition with the windows installation and i don't have access to a windows cd right now :\ |
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| 15:35.38 | sacredchao | wonders how good Debian's Esperanto translations are |
| 15:35.52 | aleminio | my debian* |
| 15:35.53 | DasEi | aleminio: ntfs-tools / testdisk in certain cases |
| 15:36.23 | aleminio | I tried ntfsfix but it's very basic and it wasn't able to fix it |
| 15:37.16 | themill | Is there a way of having libc fall back to LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 if the user selected CTYPE isn't available? |
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| 15:37.37 | DasEi | aleminio: ah , sorry, ntfsprogs it was |
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| 15:37.38 | themill | (rather than falling back to LC_CTYPE=C) |
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| 15:39.37 | DasEi | aleminio: messed mbr ? might try with testdisk then, somtimes it's possible to set the 'before-resized' back |
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| 15:40.33 | tharkun | themill: LC_CTYPE=C has no multibyte characters. making decoding straight forward. Changing to a UTF-8 character set introduces an unecesary complexity and the system can't ensure there is a decoder for it |
| 15:40.47 | aleminio | ok thx, i'll try it |
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| 15:41.30 | DasEi | aleminio: better back up current bad mbr, too, case the mess becomes worse |
| 15:41.38 | themill | tharkun: degrading to ASCII when there are multibyte chars around is a pita though -- this is becoming a FAQ for #debian. |
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| 15:42.24 | themill | tharkun: so the "no decoding" isn't quite right... it's replacing everything with little question marks all over the place. |
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| 15:43.10 | tharkun | themill: but that leaves the user the decisition of selecting the right character set. Beeing in character set hell is not good. |
| 15:43.24 | tharkun | brb |
| 15:43.59 | themill | tharkun: sure. So when the user has connected with LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 and the remote machine only has en_US.UTF-8, falling back to C.UTF-8 would be much more polite than falling back to C. |
| 15:44.14 | DasEi | help needed for annoying comresets on my sata every few seconds, hd crawls |
| 15:45.00 | tharkun | themill: When using ISO8859 which is still quite common, wouldn't fall nicely to C.UTF-8 |
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| 15:45.29 | themill | tharkun: but if the user has connected with LC_CTYPE=...UTF-8, then they evidently don't want ISO8859-x. |
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| 15:46.18 | themill | I'd have thought it were evident that they wanted something.UTF-8 at that stage, and even if we can't do LC_* right, we could at least get LC_CTYPE right now that C.UTF-8 is standard. |
| 15:46.32 | tharkun | themill: you are right, but changing a default needs to take into cosideration ALL the possible cases. That is why we still default to LC_CTYPE=C |
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| 15:47.17 | themill | sure. I'm thinking of this as something we can feed users to try out to fix their problems with ssh connections, not something that to change debian-wide |
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| 15:48.08 | stew | how about "stop using ssh from crappy, propietary OSs" |
| 15:48.30 | themill | stew: I had this problem connecting to one of your boxes from one of my boxes, remember... ;) |
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| 15:48.58 | tharkun | Oh god, now you "interconect" ... |
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| 15:49.02 | stew | oops |
| 15:49.21 | stew | themill: iirc you were using ssh from your amiga? |
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| 15:49.52 | themill | stew: you (quite sensibly) didn't have en_GB locales installed but my ssh client sent you that LC_CTYPE. Result was it degraded CTYPE to C and everything non-ascii was ????. |
| 15:49.54 | tharkun | nmap 192.168.100.170 |
| 15:50.20 | stew | I'm sure I prepared en_AU locales just for you in anticipation, only to be fooled |
| 15:50.25 | themill | hehe |
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| 15:57.22 | themill | tharkun: looking at that fallback list http://paste.debian.net/173523/ it looks like it does precisely the wrong thing for CTYPE. That's a sensible way of searching for a fall-through when you're talking about things like papersizes, but when you're explicitly looking for the encoding, then searching for things with the same listed encoding would be... sensible. (But I accept your argument that this is not something to change Just In Case™) |
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| 15:58.44 | jelly | should have prepared Explosive Runes instead |
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| 16:09.00 | ratatata | nu |
| 16:09.18 | tharkun | themill: If I get the idea right you make a request of a character set. When doing so part of the locale requested should have the UTF-8 part specified so you can set up a flag to look for all the variations your pastebin did plus C.UTF-8 avoiding the general fall back to C |
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| 16:11.05 | tharkun | Case there is no UTF-8 specified you get your default C right away and life is good. |
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| 16:13.30 | DasEi | any idea what causes this behaviour ? http://tinyurl.com/c7wk7ez |
| 16:13.34 | DasEi | (comreset, sata down to 1,5g/s, crawling at 20mb/s read/write, lots of settings and even new hd tried, just current stable debian, not so for win or more 'exotic distros) |
| 16:13.49 | themill | tharkun: yeah, that sounds more like what the user is asking for when they have LC_CTYPE=*.UTF-8 |
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| 16:19.25 | tharkun | DasEi: Any hardware change, in or around the server? |
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| 16:20.57 | okcx_ | Does anyone know how to configure a dual monitor setup with xrandr (nouveau)? |
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| 16:21.22 | stew | okcx_: sure |
| 16:21.34 | tharkun | lots of people do |
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| 16:22.04 | stew | okcx_: put the output of "xrandr" into a pastebin for starters |
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| 16:26.16 | okcx_ | here's the output http://pastebin.com/0p4L7xMH |
| 16:26.44 | okcx_ | DVI is left of VGA |
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| 16:30.58 | stew | okcx_: xrandr --output VGA-1 --auto --left-of DVI-I-1 |
| 16:31.12 | okcx_ | tries |
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| 16:31.31 | stew | err |
| 16:31.35 | stew | i suppose you want --right-of |
| 16:31.45 | stew | you can probably ditch --auto |
| 16:31.53 | okcx_ | I'll try :D |
| 16:32.15 | _DomY-Dom | Hi, how do you set the default directory of a ssh user through the terminal and make sure he can not see the rest (for now I just have the chown of the directory I want him to be able to modify) and what alternative of webmin do you recommend ? |
| 16:32.42 | stew | _DomY-Dom: what do you mean by "not see the rest" ? |
| 16:33.03 | stew | _DomY-Dom: we recommend the "just don't use webmin" alternative to webmin |
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| 16:33.45 | okcx_ | stew: it worked :) how can I save it permanently? |
| 16:34.26 | stew | okcx_: i put it into ~/.xsession which gets run by gdm when I login |
| 16:34.33 | _DomY-Dom | stew: as in not to see the other directories, so to not be able after setting the home directory for the user (which I also do not know how to do from the terminal) so that he can't do "cd.." |
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| 16:34.54 | okcx_ | stew, okay thanks :) |
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| 16:36.02 | stew | _DomY-Dom: if you don't want them to be able to use "cd .." you can't let them use a regular shell, i suppose |
| 16:36.17 | stew | _DomY-Dom: you probably DO want them to be able to see other directories |
| 16:36.31 | DasEi | tharkun: sorry for delay, I'm crossposting, no and I tried changing cables, settings in bios, even memtest and all I could think of, drive responds to hdparm as usual |
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| 16:37.42 | tharkun | DasEi: Last time i had something remotely similar was the air conditioning having some trouble related with humidity. Sorry out of my depth on this one |
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| 16:38.05 | _DomY-Dom | stew: yes sorry, I actually don't mind that they can't use a regular shell, it's for FTP access |
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| 16:38.28 | DasEi | tharkun: strange thing is further on, that I have one main host and use either vm's or other boxes for any play arounds, it's the main one and dualboot with xp hasn't that issue neither |
| 16:38.29 | stew | _DomY-Dom: ftp or sftp? |
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| 16:38.40 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: virtual user account, chroot the ftp |
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| 16:39.22 | DasEi | tharkun: thought it was the hd, just got a new one, marmel, well now backups are through, I'll have a walk and a reinstall |
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| 16:39.40 | DasEi | I'm after that for 3~ months btw |
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| 16:39.52 | _DomY-Dom | stew: sftp because the user already has a mail account and therefore by default shell access |
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| 16:40.30 | stew | _DomY-Dom: they should or should not have shell access? |
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| 16:41.20 | jordanm | you can chroot a stftp account and se ttheir login shell to scponly or some other restricted shell |
| 16:41.31 | _DomY-Dom | stew: well they already do, when I made them an email account |
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| 16:41.35 | jmosco | im trying to set up bonding with xen. Im not 100% sure, but I did read the docs. Here is what I have so far: http://pastebin.com/Pjnxb9yW |
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| 16:41.53 | jmosco | I tried to just do a ifup bond0, and that took down the entire network |
| 16:41.55 | jmosco | lol |
| 16:41.55 | _DomY-Dom | stew: so yeah, sftp then |
| 16:41.58 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: you never had to give them shell access, even if your mail accounts are system users |
| 16:41.59 | stew | _DomY-Dom: they should or should not have shell access? |
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| 16:42.22 | nsadmin | jmosco, is one of the to-be-bonded interfaces already in use? |
| 16:42.34 | okcx_ | is there any way to autologin without loginmanager or slim? |
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| 16:42.43 | jmosco | eth0 is being used by xenbr0 |
| 16:42.43 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: really? postfix made them an account which you can also use to ssh |
| 16:42.56 | stew | postfix doesn't make accounts |
| 16:43.06 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: useradd -s /sbin/nologin <user> |
| 16:43.07 | stew | and you could have postfix delivering mail to virtual users |
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| 16:43.10 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: what stew said |
| 16:43.10 | nsadmin | and it's also one of the interfaces in the bond? |
| 16:43.15 | _DomY-Dom | stew: it would be even better if they couldn't have shell access? but how would I do that considering making them a mail account already made them a |
| 16:43.22 | nsadmin | that could explain what's going on :) |
| 16:43.25 | stew | _DomY-Dom: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 |
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| 16:43.32 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: usermod -s /sbin/nologin <user> |
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| 16:43.54 | jmosco | well, wont that go away when I change to that config? I thought xenbr0 would use bond0, then bond0 will use eth0 and eth1 |
| 16:44.06 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: thanks a lot but does that restrict sftp too ? |
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| 16:44.09 | _DomY-Dom | stew: thanks :) |
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| 16:44.27 | stew | _DomY-Dom: with those instructions you can make it so that the only thing they can do with ssh is to sftp into their home directoy and not see anything else |
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| 16:45.15 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: to still allow scp/sftp, you will want to install set them to scponly |
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| 16:45.27 | jordanm | *and |
| 16:45.35 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: how exactly? |
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| 16:45.44 | stew | allowing scp and sftp is much more difficult than allowing just sftp |
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| 16:46.07 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: apt-get install scponly; usermod -s <shell> <user> |
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| 16:46.17 | stew | and... |
| 16:46.30 | Ryccardo|XFCE | stew: wouldn't changing the default shell be enough? |
| 16:46.34 | stew | and install a small linux install in each users' home directory, right? |
| 16:46.38 | pjc_ | hi |
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| 16:46.46 | stew | Ryccardo|XFCE: no |
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| 16:46.56 | jordanm | stew: no, only if you want them to have a chrooted shell |
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| 16:47.10 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: "Install the chrooted binary /usr/sbin/scponlyc SUID root" or not ? |
| 16:47.27 | _DomY-Dom | stew: let me try it first seems, straight forward accordin got what jordamn is stelling me |
| 16:47.30 | _DomY-Dom | tellin* |
| 16:47.32 | _DomY-Dom | telling* |
| 16:47.33 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: read the docs? its been a while since I have used it |
| 16:47.36 | _DomY-Dom | *DOUBLE FAIL* |
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| 16:49.08 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22951/ |
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| 16:50.00 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: the question looks pretty clear |
| 16:51.32 | stew | the question is clear, the choice is not |
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| 16:52.08 | jordanm | well, if he wants the chroot the user, there is only one option |
| 16:52.45 | stew | unless just sftp not scp is fine |
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| 16:53.18 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm what is the command again for giving a user only sftp and scp ? |
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| 16:53.30 | _DomY-Dom | one sec brb |
| 16:53.43 | stew | _DomY-Dom: do you want to limit users to their own home directories which gives you the added benefit of limiting what they can do with the added hassle of having to setup a chroot for each scponly user and the added potential problem of an additional suid root binary |
| 16:54.03 | stew | and the added maintanence of updating the user chroots |
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| 16:55.16 | _DomY-Dom | stew: stew: i only have to do it for one user yes but maybe what you're saying is a better idea, yes, any suggestions to how I would do that ? |
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| 16:55.29 | stew | how you would do what? |
| 16:55.36 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: but what was that usermod -s command again please ? |
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| 16:55.42 | _DomY-Dom | stew: limit them to their home directory |
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| 16:55.54 | stew | _DomY-Dom: i think the instructions I sent you are spot-on |
| 16:56.12 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ok and for ftp ? |
| 16:56.31 | stew | if you have sftp, why would you use ftp? |
| 16:56.48 | stew | but, it's going to different depending on which ftp server you use |
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| 17:09.38 | _DomY-Dom | stew: sorry for the delay - the first step of your tutorial says to add a line in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, do I need both of these or just one: http://cl.ly/1U2b2p1W0Y0F1e3y2V0w |
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| 17:10.09 | stew | _DomY-Dom: just the second one |
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| 17:10.27 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: could I have that line again please usermod -s /sbin/<SOMETHING> <shell> <user>, what was the <SOMETHING> , anyone have their irc history ? |
| 17:10.29 | _DomY-Dom | stew: k |
| 17:11.01 | stew | _DomY-Dom: note that doing the sftp chroot will make the scponly thing not work at all |
| 17:11.31 | stew | (at least via scp) |
| 17:11.36 | ZDebugger | hello |
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| 17:12.13 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ah but i don't want to do it like that, apparently there is a way of just associating that user to that home directory, well atleast through webmin there is... |
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| 17:12.22 | _DomY-Dom | stew: since the last time i did it was through webmin |
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| 17:13.05 | _DomY-Dom | stew: the only thing i've found on the net was to do it for a group of users, but webmin did it without having to have the user in a seperate group, since you say one can do without webmin, i want to here you now |
| 17:13.14 | _DomY-Dom | stew; hear* |
| 17:13.23 | _DomY-Dom | stew: in the sense, "see what you have to say" ^^" |
| 17:13.40 | stew | _DomY-Dom: in my instructions for sftp chroot where it says "match group whatever" you can also say "match user whatever" |
| 17:14.24 | stew | _DomY-Dom: if you want to chroot someone and still give them a working shell, you basically have to give them their own linux install in their home directory |
| 17:14.35 | stew | if you want to limit them to their home directory with sftp that is easy |
| 17:14.49 | stew | if you want to limit them to their home directory with sftp and scp that is a little harder |
| 17:15.06 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ok so: |
| 17:15.06 | _DomY-Dom | 1) i remove the scponly |
| 17:15.06 | _DomY-Dom | 2) the Match user thing is a command correct not something to put in a config file, just looks strange with the capital letter.. |
| 17:15.06 | _DomY-Dom | 3) it should work |
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| 17:15.23 | pjc_ | heh |
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| 17:16.02 | stew | _DomY-Dom: the match user thing goes into the sshd_config file |
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| 17:16.15 | _DomY-Dom | stew: okok |
| 17:16.20 | stew | you are saying "if the user matches, they get these additional config options" |
| 17:16.25 | _DomY-Dom | ok |
| 17:16.28 | _DomY-Dom | let me try |
| 17:16.46 | stew | and you are going to specify options like "they are only allowed to use sftp, no other command" and "they have to stay in their home directory" |
| 17:17.38 | _DomY-Dom | stew: where do i put the name of the user? |
| 17:17.49 | stew | Match user username |
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| 17:18.18 | _DomY-Dom | stew: no colon ? user:username ? |
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| 17:19.54 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ok and then for the usermod is it usermod -s sftponly username ? |
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| 17:20.14 | stew | _DomY-Dom: no colon, if you don't believe me, you can check "man sshd_config" |
| 17:20.20 | stew | _DomY-Dom: you don't need to use usermod |
| 17:20.44 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: man usermod |
| 17:20.47 | stew | unless you are matching on a group you want to put them in, which it sounded like you didn't want to do, which is why I mentioned "Match user" |
| 17:20.55 | stew | but if you did, it would just be "adduser username groupname" |
| 17:21.59 | Ryccardo|XFCE | Rosario Miraggio - Macchina 50 |
| 17:22.13 | _DomY-Dom | stew: i do need the chown though right, it's chown -R username:users /var/whateverdirectory right ? |
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| 17:22.40 | _DomY-Dom | stew: note, don't need to give him access to /home/username, it's for a website |
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| 17:22.54 | stew | _DomY-Dom: no its "chown root:users /var/whateverdirectory" |
| 17:23.21 | stew | any of these are predicated on root owning the directory that you are chrooting them to |
| 17:23.22 | _DomY-Dom | stew: the user isn't in the root group.. |
| 17:23.31 | stew | yeah, that's required |
| 17:23.39 | _DomY-Dom | stew: oh the user has to be root ? |
| 17:23.43 | stew | no |
| 17:23.49 | stew | the directory has to be owned by root |
| 17:23.51 | jordanm | ... |
| 17:23.52 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ok |
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| 17:24.20 | jordanm | this is venturing from irc help to consulting |
| 17:24.40 | _DomY-Dom | stew: nope didn't work. user couldn't connect to sftp |
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| 17:24.58 | stew | !doesn't work |
| 17:24.58 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 17:25.21 | stew | jordanm: i should help less? |
| 17:26.00 | _DomY-Dom | stew: no as in it literally does not work. Now that I inserted those lines "Match …" cannot connect to sftp with that username and login |
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| 17:26.40 | stew | _DomY-Dom: as in, we need more details than "doesn't work" |
| 17:27.11 | jordanm | stew: you are welcome to help as much as you would like. I personally wouldn't have got that far in :) |
| 17:27.12 | themill | jordanm: I'm sure stew can offer quite favourable rates |
| 17:27.32 | jordanm | themill: favourable to who? |
| 17:27.36 | _DomY-Dom | stew: as in the error is "Could not connect to server |
| 17:27.36 | _DomY-Dom | The user name or password was not accepted by the server", i haven't changed the password since before I put those lines in and haven't typed it in wrong ;) |
| 17:27.49 | stew | _DomY-Dom: check /var/log/auth.log |
| 17:28.00 | stew | it will probably tell you that permissions are not right yet |
| 17:29.01 | stew | the client side is rarely useful in debugging these things, since the server is never going to be readily giving useful information to an unauthorized client |
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| 17:30.48 | _DomY-Dom | stew: "Jun 8 18:26:37 srv75 sshd[5958]: Failed password for invalid user maintool from [MY IP-ADRESS] port 57996 ssh2" |
| 17:31.01 | _DomY-Dom | stew: maintool is the name of the user |
| 17:31.11 | stew | it appears to be an invalid user |
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| 17:31.33 | stew | what does "getent passwd maintool" return? |
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| 17:33.04 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ah no i know what the problem is, remember that usermod -s /sbin/nologin maintool jordanm made me do ? how do I "undo" that ? |
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| 17:34.38 | irgendwer4711 | hi, how to clean up debians dpkg database? |
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| 17:34.51 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: Just to have this thing straight. People on irc don't make you do stuff. You are the one that does it. It is your sole responsability and you should be aware that it may not work. You are the one in front of the keyboard and the one making the ultimate decisitions |
| 17:34.54 | themill | irgendwer4711: clean up in what sense/ |
| 17:35.06 | irgendwer4711 | to remove entries |
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| 17:35.16 | stew | _DomY-Dom: "usernod -s /bin/bash maintool" |
| 17:35.24 | stew | i attempt to force you to do that now! |
| 17:35.41 | _DomY-Dom | stew: no I did not type "usernod" xD |
| 17:35.48 | nsadmin | usernods at stew |
| 17:35.50 | jelly-hme | nods |
| 17:36.01 | _DomY-Dom | *lol* |
| 17:36.08 | _DomY-Dom | Damn that's not how you do italics ^^ |
| 17:36.08 | stew | _DomY-Dom: oops I slipped, i meant to type "chsh -s /bin/bash maintool" |
| 17:36.11 | themill | irgendwer4711: what entries do you want to remove? I'm not understanding what you're trying to achieve yet |
| 17:36.15 | stew | the keys are right next to eachother |
| 17:36.16 | _DomY-Dom | stew: what does that do ? |
| 17:36.28 | stew | _DomY-Dom: it prompts you to read the manpage |
| 17:36.31 | _DomY-Dom | stew: why chsh not usermod ? |
| 17:36.37 | irgendwer4711 | themill: I have many entries of old selfbuild kernel-images |
| 17:36.37 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ok.. ^^" |
| 17:36.47 | stew | _DomY-Dom: because i suck at typing usernod |
| 17:36.51 | _DomY-Dom | themill: I understand, will be more careful with my choice of words now. |
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| 17:37.06 | themill | irgendwer4711: the packages probable want purging -- that should be sufficient. /msg dpkg purge |
| 17:37.07 | stew | you should be more careful with your choice of tab completion |
| 17:37.27 | irgendwer4711 | themill: no, it does not remove the entries |
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| 17:37.48 | _DomY-Dom | stew: I can still see all the directories with that user |
| 17:38.34 | themill | irgendwer4711: what are you removing entries from? Some output in a pastebin might be handy about now |
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| 17:38.58 | irgendwer4711 | themill: I mean dpkg -l (L) |
| 17:39.02 | stew | _DomY-Dom: did you restart ssh after editing the config? |
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| 17:39.41 | irgendwer4711 | themill: dpkg -l linux-image* |
| 17:40.33 | stew | irgendwer4711: the answer to your original question is "you don't clean it up" |
| 17:40.55 | irgendwer4711 | I want |
| 17:40.59 | themill | irgendwer4711: can you pastebin that output? What release of debian is this? |
| 17:41.09 | irgendwer4711 | ubunut 10 ;-) |
| 17:41.26 | themill | grrrrr |
| 17:41.46 | themill | irgendwer4711: please ask #ubuntu. This isn't an issue in any recent debian release. |
| 17:41.48 | irgendwer4711 | I have this question since debian times |
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| 17:43.55 | prodnix | Id much prefer LVM but Im curious if it would have any drawbacks |
| 17:44.05 | _DomY-Dom | stew: Ok, let's do this step by step now. I added this "Subsystem sftp internal-sftp" and then these lines http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22952/ to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and then did did chown root:users /var/www/maintool/public_html/www (which is the correct path same as in the Match ….ChrootDirectory /var/.…). Connecting to SFTP it still showed me the default / directory so I can see all directories. I thought I may have forgotten the userm |
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| 17:45.08 | jonaskoelker | Hello all. When I boot my install, I'm told I must manually run fsck on my btrfs, as fsck.btrfs failed (not found). I see btrfsck, is that it? It complains that the device (/dev/sda2 at /) is mounted... |
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| 17:45.37 | jhutchins_lt | jonaskoelker: That is correct. |
| 17:45.47 | _DomY-Dom | jonaskoelker: yes |
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| 17:46.04 | stew | _DomY-Dom: what do you mean by "default / directory"? |
| 17:46.28 | jonaskoelker | okay... (1) isn't it a bug that ${whichever} expects fsck.btrs (vs btrfsck)? (2) how do I get to fsck my btrfs partition? |
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| 17:46.32 | _DomY-Dom | stew: the core directory |
| 17:46.53 | jonaskoelker | do I copy btrfsck into elsewhere and run it from there? umount -l /dev/sda2? |
| 17:47.32 | _DomY-Dom | stew: as in the one with home, root, etc, .... |
| 17:47.42 | _DomY-Dom | stew: i see al the files |
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| 17:47.58 | jordanm | jonaskoelker: btrfs still lacks a fsck that can be used as fsck.btrs |
| 17:48.19 | jonaskoelker | jordanm: huh? btrfsck isn't it? |
| 17:48.20 | jordanm | jonaskoelker: I would call it a feature request bug for a non-usless fsck utility :) |
| 17:48.27 | cardamon | Disabling or controlling screen blanking after an interval is one those problems that has 20 seperate solutions, depending on what's causing it, isn't it? |
| 17:48.45 | jordanm | jonaskoelker: no, it doesn't fix errors |
| 17:48.50 | jonaskoelker | -.- |
| 17:48.59 | jonaskoelker | then what does it do? |
| 17:49.00 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ok I was able to change the home directory for the user, it still has access to the others though |
| 17:49.05 | jordanm | jonaskoelker: "btrfsck can now repair some forms of filesystem breakage" |
| 17:49.15 | jordanm | apparently it can handle "some" as of march 26th |
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| 17:49.37 | jordanm | jonaskoelker: its still in heavy development... by a single oracle employee |
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| 17:49.59 | kevlarman | wish they would just dual license zfs instead :( |
| 17:50.05 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ? |
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| 17:52.32 | _DomY-Dom | stew: you know what, here let me make life easier for you, this is what I did: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22953/ |
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| 17:55.06 | stew | _DomY-Dom: the username is "maintool" not "maintool sftponly". fix the "Match user" line |
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| 17:56.34 | _DomY-Dom | stew: damnit i've just done something stupid by mistake i wanted to do chown -h -R maintool:users /aspecificdirectory and i did chown -h -R maintool:users / so now it seems not to have access to anything.. |
| 17:56.51 | _DomY-Dom | stew: actually no, it can't even connect to the shell |
| 17:57.17 | stew | fun |
| 17:57.21 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: congrats for breaking your system |
| 17:57.34 | nkuttler | the power of root.. |
| 17:58.08 | stew | now we get to belittle you when you tell us that you don't have up to date backups |
| 17:58.32 | lapsusbrutus | is there a way I can easily connect to different types of networks when traveling around not having to start X? want to avoid X so I guess nm-applet or wicd will not work? Im aware of wpa supplicant, but this is a little cumbersome right when changing between many networks at airports etc.. ncurses would be great, anything but having to startx :) |
| 17:58.33 | nkuttler | oh well it's just permissions.. not *that* bad |
| 17:58.35 | jonaskoelker | so... how do I bring my system in a situation where I can run btrfsck? |
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| 17:59.12 | _DomY-Dom | nkuttler: you gotta be joking. |
| 17:59.14 | stew | lapsusbrutus: both nm and wicd have text based tools |
| 17:59.32 | stew | yeah, he's joking, it is that bad |
| 17:59.33 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: you changed the ownership of / to maintool:users ? |
| 17:59.40 | stew | (recursively) |
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| 17:59.45 | nkuttler | ^^⁺+ |
| 18:00.00 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: i'd reinstall, much less trouble than trying to fix this |
| 18:00.11 | lapsusbrutus | stew: ohh they do? I had no idea, wich one do you use? |
| 18:00.35 | _DomY-Dom | nkuttler: noooooo. Damnit |
| 18:00.48 | _DomY-Dom | nkuttler: i didn't i did "-h" though |
| 18:00.57 | lapsusbrutus | stew: hmm wicd-cli cool |
| 18:01.25 | stew | lapsusbrutus: and wicd-curses |
| 18:01.32 | stew | lapsusbrutus: i don't recall what the nm one is |
| 18:01.33 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: doesn't seem to be relevant |
| 18:01.53 | _DomY-Dom | nkuttler: fun, i can't access ssh anymore … neither with maintool nor with root |
| 18:02.21 | lapsusbrutus | stew: great!! thanks a lot stew! Gotta look at this |
| 18:02.25 | _DomY-Dom | nkuttler: am i really screwed ? |
| 18:02.49 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: pretty much |
| 18:02.59 | _DomY-Dom | nkuttler: there is absolutely nothing I can do ? |
| 18:03.27 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: sure, you could fix the permissions.. if you can still get root on the box. that would take much more time than reinstalling though (imo) |
| 18:03.52 | _DomY-Dom | well, for now, i can't actually access ssh so.. |
| 18:04.01 | stew | _DomY-Dom: boot into a rescue cd, then for each file on the box, chown the file/directory to the correct owner by looking at who owns it in your backup |
| 18:04.21 | nkuttler | oh, local box, that's nice |
| 18:04.50 | jordanm | he should have paid stew's consulting fees |
| 18:05.11 | stew | if you paid stew's consulting fee's youd be $HOME by now! |
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| 18:05.24 | centrux | buenassssssss |
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| 18:05.42 | stew | tardes |
| 18:05.52 | _DomY-Dom | stew/nkuttler: thanks for your help, there is no way I can any of that since I can't access ssh anymore, neither with maintool nor with root... |
| 18:05.55 | centrux | de que forma puedo poner para que se vean tanto en consola como en parte gráfica los acentos y enies de los archivo ?? |
| 18:06.04 | stew | !es |
| 18:06.05 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 18:06.12 | _DomY-Dom | stew/nkuttler: see this is why I hsould have just stuck to webmin.. |
| 18:06.16 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: like stew said, boot a rescue cd, or put the hd into a different computer |
| 18:06.21 | nkuttler | :( |
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| 18:06.32 | _DomY-Dom | nkuttler: I don't have access to the physical server |
| 18:06.38 | jordanm | someone does |
| 18:06.40 | centrux | perdon |
| 18:06.44 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: webmin breaks things in more subtle ways, that's true. and it's not supported here |
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| 18:07.12 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: ok i'll ask my host to do it then, hopefully they will |
| 18:07.17 | stew | webmin probably lets you screw up your box in a much nicer, web-based interface |
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| 18:07.35 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: they will probably reinstall the OS for you so you can restore your backup |
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| 18:07.49 | nkuttler | thinks his rxvts are nice |
| 18:08.35 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: I can do that myself… I also have a backup. I would prefer though if they could do what stew said |
| 18:08.48 | _DomY-Dom | that is to "boot into a rescue cd, then for each file on the box, chown the file/directory to the correct owner by looking at who owns it in your backup" |
| 18:09.00 | gez | Hi: Where can I find the mantainer of Blender? (I mean, the guy who packages it for Debian) |
| 18:09.08 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: good luck getting them to do that for free.. and today |
| 18:09.11 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: that will take forever and $$ |
| 18:09.20 | stew | gez: why? can you not juust interact with him via the bts? |
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| 18:09.31 | _DomY-Dom | k fine, screw this I'll reinstall it.. |
| 18:09.41 | stew | gez: Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers <pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org> |
| 18:09.46 | stew | gez: its a mailing list |
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| 18:09.54 | nkuttler | _DomY-Dom: wait, you do have backups? through your hoster or some custom solution? |
| 18:10.13 | JonB | hi, under which circumstances will Debian restart a crash aborted pvmove command? |
| 18:10.13 | nkuttler | they can probably reinstall a backup for you, if it's of / |
| 18:10.24 | Mortvert | Hi. How can i prevent apt-get install mpc from trying to install any part of X11? |
| 18:10.42 | Mortvert | Since http://pastebin.com/jee6S96W is what i get. And i don't want any part of x11 installed :v |
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| 18:11.53 | JonB | I was bitten by a bug that looks like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=706036 in Debian Squeeze which made me power cycle the machine. before the 2. powercycle it said 10%, and after the 2. powercycle I upgraded to lvm2 from wheezy (+ other packages) |
| 18:11.56 | jordanm | Mortvert: mpc isn't even in the package list to be installed there |
| 18:12.20 | Mortvert | jordanm - well, what i did is apt-get install mpc |
| 18:12.21 | JonB | But here in the evening some hours after the upgrade I wanted to complete the pvmove command, but there was nothing to move any more? |
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| 18:12.43 | JonB | how did the machine get from 10% completed to 100% completed without me running pvmove? |
| 18:12.46 | stew | judd: recommends mpc |
| 18:12.47 | judd | Package mpc in squeeze/i386 -- recommends: None. |
| 18:12.52 | stew | judd: depends mpc |
| 18:12.54 | judd | Package mpc in squeeze/i386 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.1), libmpdclient2 (>= 2.1). |
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| 18:13.10 | stew | Mortvert: are you sure you try to install mpc and not mpd? |
| 18:13.17 | Mortvert | err, |
| 18:13.18 | Mortvert | mpd* |
| 18:13.23 | Mortvert | i need the daemon :v |
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| 18:13.29 | jordanm | Mortvert: try -R, if it still pulls them in, then that's it. its only installing x11-common, so disk space is the only negative |
| 18:13.46 | stew | its going to pull them in anyway |
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| 18:13.54 | jonaskoelker | I fsck'ed my disk, but when I reboot I still get the "[I wanted to but could not fsck]". Can I manually mark that disk as you-don't-need-to-fsk? |
| 18:13.58 | stew | Mortvert: you'd have to build your own debian package |
| 18:14.05 | jordanm | 582k of disk space actually |
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| 18:15.15 | JonB | does installing lvm2 make the computer run pvmove? |
| 18:15.38 | jordanm | ,file pvmove |
| 18:15.42 | judd | Search for pvmove in squeeze/i386: lvm2: sbin/pvmove |
| 18:15.43 | gez | stew: Thanks. I'm new here, trying to learn the appropriate procedures to contact mantainers. |
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| 18:16.16 | JonB | judd: yes, it is a part of lvm2 |
| 18:16.30 | gez | I found that Blender in testing repository lacks an option and I wanted to check if s/he turned it off accidentally or intentionally |
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| 18:16.49 | JonB | judd: but is /sbin/pvmove executed at installation? |
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| 18:17.05 | Beast | hi all |
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| 18:17.56 | Beast | say, I'm trying to install onto an old computer using kfreebsd and the ncurses style screen has frozen but thge harddrive is going, sounds like a type writer. |
| 18:18.03 | lapsusbrutus | hmm installed firmware non-free, I have to bring wlan0 up manually, but thats probably just because I havent looked at interfaces file yet, but iwlist scan do work, but wicd-curses cant find any networks.. any one cant think of why that could be? |
| 18:18.04 | Beast | it's been over an hour |
| 18:18.34 | Beast | can I take it that the intsaller is frozen and my hd is most probably on the fritz? |
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| 18:18.45 | JonB | Beast: what happens if you switch to the 2. terminal with ctrl+alt+f2 ? |
| 18:19.14 | judgen | how do i set up multiple displays with the free drivers (AMD/ATI) |
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| 18:19.41 | jordanm | judgen: I just used the gnome monitor tool. kde has similar, otherwise, xrandr |
| 18:19.50 | Beast | JonB: nada |
| 18:20.04 | JonB | Beast: do you have a physical keyboard in it? |
| 18:20.13 | Beast | yep |
| 18:20.24 | Beast | I must admidt that I unpluged it though |
| 18:20.37 | JonB | Beast: does it have a capslock? |
| 18:20.52 | Beast | it's an old big style pin connector |
| 18:21.00 | Beast | yes, there is a capslock |
| 18:21.40 | JonB | Beast: does the capslock LED on the keyboard turn on/off if you pressed the capslock key while the keyboard is plugged into the computer? |
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| 18:22.05 | Beast | j |
| 18:22.16 | Beast | JonB: none of the locks light up |
| 18:22.28 | JonB | Beast: that is usually not a good sign |
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| 18:22.56 | Beast | It's probably frozen. And I should try another hd. |
| 18:23.00 | koko_ | helo |
| 18:23.24 | koko_ | how can i found file excel password ? |
| 18:23.47 | JonB | Beast: seems like it |
| 18:23.52 | Beast | I had my doubts about this hd, because it was a littlke last I recall. I haven't used thi scomputer in years. I do recall my debian installed onto it not booting all of a sudden, years ago, not that I think of it. |
| 18:24.03 | Beast | ok, thanks for the confirmation. |
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| 18:24.08 | craigevil | Beast, that happens sometimes if the installer cant connect to the web |
| 18:24.15 | JonB | Beast: this time, write defect on it |
| 18:25.07 | Beast | aborting. Will do JonB. craigevil: ah, it's not linked to the net. Something to try. |
| 18:25.14 | lapsusbrutus | when I change sources.list to wheezy, "violatile" is not found. Disable them is what I should do I guess? |
| 18:25.17 | koko_ | what program ould recovery excel password ? |
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| 18:25.56 | joltcan | koko_: I would assume that type of software are much easier to find via google |
| 18:26.04 | craigevil | lapsusbrutus, there is no volatile even for squeeze |
| 18:26.22 | lapsusbrutus | craigevil: thanx :) |
| 18:26.36 | craigevil | lapsusbrutus, for testing you should only have two line deb and deb-src |
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| 18:27.47 | stew | well there is volatile for squeeze, its just now confusingly renamed updates |
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| 18:27.58 | stew | but no there is no such equivalent for testing |
| 18:28.39 | jordanm | its only conufsingly named for people who didn't use volatile for many years |
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| 18:32.22 | jimcooncat | What's the state of nomachine (nx) tech in Debian? Is there a server package? For client, do you use remmina? |
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| 18:33.37 | jimcooncat | squarepeg: 1227 users say hello back |
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| 18:36.42 | stew | jordanm: no the confusing thing is that security is squeeze/updates and volatile is squeeze-updates |
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| 18:37.24 | stew | i think there was an ITP for nomachine many years ago |
| 18:37.31 | jordanm | ah |
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| 18:37.58 | jimcooncat | stew, ITP? |
| 18:38.02 | stew | !ITP |
| 18:38.03 | dpkg | Intent To Package (ITP) is a Debian <bug> filed against the <wnpp> pseudo-package, to indicate someone is working on packaging a piece of software for Debian. This is done to avoid a duplication of work. |
| 18:38.32 | jordanm | stew: looks like a RFP, no ITP |
| 18:38.51 | stew | ah |
| 18:39.20 | stew | yeah: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=601460 |
| 18:39.26 | Guest38441 | Is gnash/debian capable of playing youtube videos ? |
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| 18:39.39 | jimcooncat | nomachine was a real mess. Seveas worked on it for years for the Ubuntu crowd. Neatx looked very promising but Google didn't follow through with development. |
| 18:39.41 | stew | jimcooncat: so the status is "at least one other person wants this" |
| 18:39.48 | Guest38441 | and is it any lower in memory consumption than flahplugin-nonfree ? |
| 18:40.08 | jordanm | Guest38441: sometimes, and no |
| 18:40.23 | stew | Guest38441: you can play youtube videos without flash at all: http://www.youtube.com/html5 |
| 18:40.50 | jordanm | stew: looks like a bigger market in the ubuntu circle, they have a PPA and documentation at least |
| 18:41.02 | Guest38441 | wow |
| 18:41.04 | Guest38441 | cool |
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| 18:41.16 | jordanm | (some) |
| 18:42.10 | linduxed | for the console (not X) isn't the colemak keyboard layout included? |
| 18:42.15 | linduxed | in squeeze that is |
| 18:42.26 | linduxed | like som variant of the us keyboard |
| 18:42.36 | linduxed | (and if it is, how do i enable it?) |
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| 18:43.21 | jordanm | looks like freenx upstream has been dead for about 4 years |
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| 18:45.29 | jimcooncat | ... it showed such promise (wipes tear from eye). thanks folks, I'll bug the remmina people about it. |
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| 18:46.15 | jordanm | it also has one source file with a questionable license |
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| 18:46.37 | jordanm | "A portable, public domain, version of the Data Encryption Standard." that is the only sentence that gives any indication of "free" |
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| 18:51.27 | jimcooncat | jordanm: Friends don't let friends use DES anyway. For something like remote control, blowfish is the deal. |
| 18:51.57 | JonB | jimcooncat: or md5 |
| 18:52.51 | judgen | Jordan_U, the gnome tool shows both screens, and applying the settings does nothing at all. And the results are the same when running as root |
| 18:53.20 | Jordan_U | judgen: Wrong jordan :) |
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| 18:55.46 | jelly-hme | jordanm: can't get more free than "public domain" |
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| 18:56.32 | ksinkar | what is the pre-installed installer for debian, apt-get or aptitude? |
| 18:56.47 | jelly-hme | ksinkar: both |
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| 18:58.00 | Guest77333 | is there a debian unified2/barnyard2 package? |
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| 19:02.03 | markdiske | i'm getting errors whenever i try to install anything with apt-get. 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable & 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable .....any ideas? http://dpaste.com/756760/ |
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| 19:03.17 | themill | markdiske: do you use sudo to invoke apt? |
| 19:03.35 | nitro-x | echo $PATH |
| 19:03.49 | markdiske | themill: yes. /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
| 19:04.06 | jordanm | jelly-hme: yes, but I am not sure describing the application as "public domain" grants rights the users. IANAL |
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| 19:04.19 | jordanm | markdiske: I don't see sbin |
| 19:04.20 | themill | markdiske: did you pay attention to the prompts that sudo gave you about fixing your sudoers in a recent upgrade? |
| 19:04.36 | nitro-x | export PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin |
| 19:04.40 | themill | echo $PATH isn't very useful when you're using sudo |
| 19:04.52 | themill | neither is rewriting the user's path |
| 19:05.12 | markdiske | themill: i read it...don't know how to fix it |
| 19:05.14 | jordanm | he could do sudo bash -c 'echo $PATH' |
| 19:05.26 | babilen | !sudo path |
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| 19:06.16 | markdiske | thank you |
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| 19:06.55 | babilen | markdiske: It is typically a very good idea to at least tell us which version of Debian you are tracking. Complete commands + output are nice as well. A special bonus is that we even have a testing/unstable specific channel over at irc.oftc.net calles #debian-next. w00t! |
| 19:07.08 | selector | i wanto tu unzip a zip to a subdirectory under current directory, is this way to go? > unzip file.zip -d pwd /unzipped |
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| 19:08.19 | selector | pwd would give me current direcgtoryu |
| 19:08.21 | jordanm | selector: why are you passing two args after -d? |
| 19:08.32 | jordanm | selector: no, you want $PWD |
| 19:08.47 | jordanm | not that should be needed anyways |
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| 19:09.03 | selector | i want to unzip all files under a subdirectory |
| 19:09.07 | jordanm | unzip file.zip -d unzipped/ |
| 19:09.13 | selector | i wanto tu unzip a zip to a subdirectory under current directory, is this way to go? > unzip file.zip -d pwd/sub_dir |
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| 19:09.32 | selector | aha aha |
| 19:09.34 | selector | i understand |
| 19:09.38 | selector | wawawiwa great success |
| 19:09.59 | jordanm | !tell selector about cross-post |
| 19:11.04 | selector | alright guys sorry, i dont know which channel is active, which is not - im not irc guru, dont know how this all works |
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| 19:15.32 | parcs` | anyone recommend a particular resource on creating a debian package for a piece of software that is not currently packaged? |
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| 19:15.44 | jordanm | !nmg |
| 19:15.44 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 19:16.01 | jordanm | parcs`: what software? |
| 19:16.42 | parcs` | jordanm: urweb |
| 19:17.10 | parcs` | thanks for the link |
| 19:17.26 | ahwan | hi all |
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| 19:17.47 | DelphiWorld | yo all |
| 19:17.56 | DelphiWorld | how to replace ncurses with readline? |
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| 19:18.10 | ahwan | m male |
| 19:18.12 | ahwan | age 17 |
| 19:18.17 | ahwan | from india |
| 19:18.21 | ahwan | m a student |
| 19:18.23 | jordanm | ahwan: wrong channel |
| 19:18.34 | DelphiWorld | ahwan: no sexy here :P |
| 19:18.42 | stew | ahwan: please don't hit enter so often. if you have a debian related question, just ask it |
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| 19:19.13 | ahwan | no..m come here for something serious |
| 19:19.26 | ahwan | not for any bad things |
| 19:19.27 | jordanm | DelphiWorld: that's a very vague question |
| 19:19.38 | geekbri | If you have installed a .deb file, does that actual deb get cached anywhere in the system? |
| 19:19.42 | jordanm | stew: +q |
| 19:19.50 | ahwan | but i dnt know abt debian |
| 19:19.56 | judgen | ahwan, wellcome |
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| 19:20.07 | jordanm | geekbri: if its installed via apt, it may be cached, but not via dpkg directly |
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| 19:20.09 | craigevil | geekbri, if you downloaded it using apt-get/aptitude yes |
| 19:20.18 | ahwan | say smthng abt debian |
| 19:20.21 | geekbri | It was not, it was installed directly with deb |
| 19:20.21 | DelphiWorld | jordanm: i don't want config dialogs to be ncurces but i want it to be cmdline |
| 19:20.23 | geekbri | rather dpkg |
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| 19:20.35 | jordanm | DelphiWorld: debconf? |
| 19:20.47 | DelphiWorld | jordanm: yep |
| 19:20.50 | stew | jordanm: working on it |
| 19:21.10 | DelphiWorld | ahwan: http://www.debian.org |
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| 19:21.48 | craigevil | DelphiWorld, dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 19:22.23 | jordanm | DelphiWorld: DEBCONF_FRONTEND=text |
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| 19:22.59 | DelphiWorld | jordanm: still see ncurses |
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| 19:23.20 | jordanm | DelphiWorld: then reconfigure like craigevil's suggestion |
| 19:23.46 | DelphiWorld | i see, can't use ncurses need my friend to come |
| 19:23.48 | themill | s/text/readline/ |
| 19:24.18 | themill | also s/DEBCONF_FRONTEND/DEBIAN_FRONTEND/ |
| 19:24.32 | themill | DelphiWorld: you could DEBIAN_FRONTEND=readline dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 19:24.53 | jordanm | themill: ah, the joeyh manual I am looking at is 12 years gold |
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| 19:25.33 | themill | jordanm: yeah well, I would have said "DEBCONF" was a better name than DEBIAN for a debconf control variable, personally... |
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| 19:26.17 | DelphiWorld | themill: thank you, work! |
| 19:26.23 | themill | \o/ |
| 19:28.26 | DelphiWorld | themill: :| |
| 19:29.16 | themill | ;( |
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| 19:29.48 | DelphiWorld | themill: cry! |
| 19:30.29 | themill | DelphiWorld: no joy? |
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| 19:30.38 | DelphiWorld | LOL |
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| 19:40.14 | lapsusbr1tus | guys, please help, I cant live without my norwegian dvorak, but now I cannot find it on the "dpkg-reconfigure console-data", hmm got it on all my other machines, I just might have forgotten howto... anyone can give a helping hand? |
| 19:40.42 | Nik05 | first say FAENN!!!!! |
| 19:40.48 | Nik05 | then, i dont know... |
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| 19:41.18 | lapsusbr1tus | Nik05: :p |
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| 19:41.55 | Nik05 | and know i am not Norwegian and faen is the only word i know, lol :P |
| 19:42.05 | Nik05 | know :S.... i mean no |
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| 19:43.46 | jimcooncat | anyone here tried x2goserver? do you like it? |
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| 19:44.44 | lapsusbr1tus | hmm that was strange I went through the ncurses menus: select from arch list > dvorak > Standard > Standard .. and there it was ... puzzled but happy |
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| 19:45.55 | linduxed | ok so when i log into a server for the first time it says something like "the authenticity of host ...... cant be established. RSA fingerprint is ............" |
| 19:45.58 | lapsusbr1tus | ahh stupid me.. was on ssh lol sorry |
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| 19:46.18 | linduxed | how do i print the fingerprint on the server side? |
| 19:46.40 | linduxed | like if i already have access from some other computer to that server |
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| 19:49.12 | themill | linduxed: ssh-keygen -l -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key |
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| 19:49.42 | jimcooncat | linduxed: step 1, find the key files: http://packages.x2go.org/debian |
| 19:49.56 | jimcooncat | linduxed: oops |
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| 19:50.27 | jimcooncat | step 1: ls /etc/ssh/*key* |
| 19:50.32 | jordanm | themill: isn't the fingerprint returned of the public key? |
| 19:50.33 | linduxed | themill: thx |
| 19:50.36 | linduxed | jimcooncat: thx |
| 19:51.03 | jimcooncat | step 2 (as themill said) |
| 19:51.18 | themill | jordanm: not sure what you're asking there |
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| 19:52.08 | jordanm | themill: disregard |
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| 19:53.11 | mynameisdeleted | if one has an unexpected shutdown or 2 is runnign a read-only scandisk after the next boot a good idea? |
| 19:53.22 | mynameisdeleted | and if it reads erors recover onto another drive? |
| 19:53.46 | jimcooncat | mynameisdeleted: you on linux or windows? |
| 19:53.50 | mynameisdeleted | linux |
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| 19:54.14 | mynameisdeleted | my last hang I noticed a journalish crash in dmesg |
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| 19:54.21 | ahwan | stew ....plz reply quick |
| 19:54.25 | mynameisdeleted | so I decided to run an extra scandisk in read-only mode |
| 19:54.29 | tharkun | Gentlemen i have this ods file and there is no X running at the moment is there a way to convert it to simple txt? |
| 19:54.39 | mynameisdeleted | would a successful fsck on startup fix this happening again? |
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| 19:55.25 | jordanm | mynameisdeleted: scandisk == fsck? |
| 19:55.28 | mynameisdeleted | yup |
| 19:55.37 | mynameisdeleted | pretty much |
| 19:55.47 | themill | tharkun: unoconv |
| 19:55.51 | stew | ahwan: please stay on-topic in this channel. This channel needs to remain about debian end-user support |
| 19:56.05 | tharkun | themill: thanks |
| 19:56.24 | mynameisdeleted | sudo fsck -C -n /dev/root_device |
| 19:56.31 | themill | tharkun: (ymmv with unoconv... I've never used it to convert to text formats and spreadsheets are often a bit more stuctured than you can represent in plain text) |
| 19:56.38 | mynameisdeleted | warning.. filesystem stil has errors... they look minor and like ones fsck typically fixes |
| 19:56.53 | mynameisdeleted | but I cant tell fsck to fix them while running so when I get home I'll reboot and run fsck from there |
| 19:57.00 | mynameisdeleted | I have a rescue initrd that can run fsck as well |
| 19:57.09 | mynameisdeleted | and a rescue shell |
| 19:57.11 | tharkun | themill: Let's see the output, It can't get any worse than nothing :) |
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| 19:58.18 | mynameisdeleted | does mountnig an nfs directory with nolock risc corruption if 2 systems try to write same file at once? |
| 19:58.27 | mynameisdeleted | ... this rarely happens |
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| 19:59.02 | mynameisdeleted | and if it does happen normally the first one to write finishes before the last one starts |
| 19:59.10 | mynameisdeleted | so you just get the newer of 2 versiosn |
| 19:59.45 | mynameisdeleted | I'm guesisng remote write-locking is recommended on any networked file system |
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| 20:00.15 | mynameisdeleted | also my experimental hdparm parameters.. one of them was dangerous and has been removed |
| 20:00.54 | mynameisdeleted | whats the best way to tell a system that after a reboot I want an fsck before mounting anythign rw |
| 20:01.52 | jimcooncat | mynameisdeleted: run it from livecd? |
| 20:02.11 | mynameisdeleted | if I had a cd drive that would be good...... I have netboot and such |
| 20:02.16 | craigevil | shutdown -fr now |
| 20:02.17 | mynameisdeleted | and rescue initrds with rescue utilities |
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| 20:03.00 | craigevil | whoops its shutdown -rF now |
| 20:03.02 | jimcooncat | mynameisdeleted: put a livecd on your pxe server then and you'll always have it |
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| 20:03.22 | mynameisdeleted | I dont even see -F as an option in the shutdown man page |
| 20:03.23 | craigevil | mynameisdeleted, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/ |
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| 20:03.45 | jordanm | mynameisdeleted: what version of debian? |
| 20:04.05 | mynameisdeleted | squeeze/stable |
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| 20:04.44 | themill | mynameisdeleted: my squeeze machines have -F in man shutdown |
| 20:04.45 | mynameisdeleted | sudo touch /forcefsck |
| 20:04.46 | jordanm | mynameisdeleted: -F is in my squeeze manpage |
| 20:04.47 | mynameisdeleted | and then reboot |
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| 20:05.02 | mynameisdeleted | ahh... me too |
| 20:05.11 | mynameisdeleted | I was running man shutdown on my work laptop which is debian |
| 20:05.12 | mynameisdeleted | oops |
| 20:05.14 | mynameisdeleted | I mena ubuntu |
| 20:06.26 | tharkun | themill: thanks but "The provided document cannot be converted to the desired format." :( |
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| 20:07.25 | themill | tharkun: what format did you ask for?> |
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| 20:07.43 | tharkun | txt |
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| 20:07.59 | mynameisdeleted | ran sudo shutdown -rF now |
| 20:08.05 | tharkun | the other available i think was pdf which puts me back to square 1 |
| 20:08.07 | mynameisdeleted | I'll check the system in 5 or 10 mins to see how it came back up |
| 20:08.22 | themill | tharkun: I don't see that format in unoconv --show under the spreadsheets heading. |
| 20:08.45 | themill | tharkun: csv, html, xhtml? |
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| 20:08.58 | mynameisdeleted | hi all |
| 20:09.08 | mynameisdeleted | back from my other linux system |
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| 20:11.13 | tharkun | themill: I saw Text and asumed txt wwhen it was csv thanks |
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| 20:13.22 | Sargun-Work | How do I setup a debian repository in a way where I can have two packages with the same name in two different distros? |
| 20:13.24 | Sargun-Work | i.e. no pools? |
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| 20:14.13 | stew | Sargun-Work: i'm not sure how "no pools" logically follows from "two packages with the same name" |
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| 20:14.24 | stew | Sargun-Work: are the pacakges going to have different contents but the same version number? |
| 20:14.28 | mynameisdeleted | looks like my fsck was successful |
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| 20:14.41 | mynameisdeleted | so far read-only fsck after boot shows no signs of error |
| 20:15.00 | mynameisdeleted | fsck on a marse-probe is generally a bad idea unles one can physically reboot it if one needs rahter than just ssh in |
| 20:15.09 | mynameisdeleted | so I should have waited till I got home |
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| 20:16.27 | Sargun-Work | stew: Yes. |
| 20:16.42 | Sargun-Work | stew: I.e. ruby 1.8.7 - compiled for maverick vs precise |
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| 20:16.56 | stew | Sargun-Work: if they are are different they should have different versions |
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| 20:17.22 | stew | 1.8.7-1+maverick1 and 1.8.7-1+precise1 perhaps |
| 20:17.26 | mynameisdeleted | new ro fsck loooks MUCH better |
| 20:17.31 | mynameisdeleted | so I should have more stable system |
| 20:17.44 | mynameisdeleted | I might force-reinstall the existing base system to make sure base files are not corrupted |
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| 20:18.08 | mynameisdeleted | generally that is done during down-time |
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| 20:23.44 | mynameisdeleted | I love qemu+kvm in -curses mode on guest os's set up never to use X or graphical images |
| 20:24.09 | mynameisdeleted | runs perfectly in screen |
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| 20:26.28 | bs0d | Hello everybody |
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| 20:38.58 | brokencycle | Hi! |
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| 20:39.53 | brokencycle | I'm having a problem with DNS. Afaik, mentors.debian.org is supposed to exist, but: http://pastie.org/4052576 |
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| 20:40.04 | themill | brokencycle: mentors.debian.NET |
| 20:40.25 | brokencycle | themill: thank you! |
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| 20:41.31 | brokencycle | themill: but http://www.analogx.com/cgi-bin/cgidig.exe?DNS=208.67.222.222&Query=mentors.debian.org&Type=1&submit=Lookup |
| 20:41.36 | brokencycle | weird... |
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| 20:43.53 | themill | brokencycle: the IP address it's returning there is one of those silly "oh didn't you find what you were looking for, can I sell you something instead" placeholders |
| 20:44.40 | brokencycle | themill: oh, great! =8-{ |
| 20:45.00 | bs0d | does anybody use KVM? |
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| 20:45.25 | stew | bs0d: lots of people |
| 20:45.51 | rainfyre | heh |
| 20:46.08 | bs0d | I don't quite understand can it be configured to use real hw, i.e physical video card, if its not used by the host system ( no X server installed )? |
| 20:46.09 | themill | brokencycle: well, it's an opendns landing page. That may or may not be *quite* that evil. |
| 20:46.19 | bs0d | Sorry, if my question is in the wrong channel |
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| 20:47.10 | bs0d | to be more exact, can the VM use physical video card of a host system? |
| 20:47.13 | brokencycle | themill: i consider opendns evil. |
| 20:47.36 | brokencycle | it's an open invitation to censorship. |
| 20:47.39 | brokencycle | imho |
| 20:47.42 | brokencycle | imnsho |
| 20:47.57 | brokencycle | people using it should sign up for aol |
| 20:47.59 | brokencycle | instead |
| 20:48.35 | brokencycle | but thanks for the heads up |
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| 20:49.02 | stew | bs0d: i don't see why not |
| 20:49.11 | craigevil | opendns pissed me off so i switched to googles dns |
| 20:49.18 | _DomY-Dom | stew / jordanm / themill / nkuttler: Hello again, fixed my server ^^" |
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| 20:49.34 | stew | \*/ |
| 20:49.46 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: did you document it? |
| 20:50.12 | craigevil | the stupid opendns error page sucked, when i have firefox set to use googles lucky it still went to the opendns page |
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| 20:50.18 | themill | hmm? what did I do? Or was this sufficiently long ago that I've forgotten my key rôle? |
| 20:50.32 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: This was yet another reinstall today, I had fixed it the other time in a way longer way, funnily enough, this time, didn't require "myisamchk" |
| 20:50.56 | _DomY-Dom | themill: no you just something about me questioning stew in a specific way earlier this evening ^^" |
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| 20:51.38 | ompaul | _DomY-Dom: pointing it to the right conf files / socket ? or something like that? |
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| 20:55.35 | stew | themill: he's got you mixed up with thark*n |
| 20:55.36 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: you mean for my first reinstall ? No just needed rebuilding of databases using "myisamchk". All hail to nezZario and his famous method which only works for the lucky ones (i.e : me) |
| 20:55.40 | stew | (as he did earlier) |
| 20:55.40 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: I'll document it ;) |
| 20:55.46 | themill | stew: heh |
| 20:55.47 | _DomY-Dom | stew: sorry themill |
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| 20:56.27 | stew | people really need to stop using myisam |
| 20:56.42 | stew | but that's a rant for another day |
| 20:57.14 | abrotman | nah, let it all out |
| 20:57.27 | _DomY-Dom | stew: ok I have this: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22961/, now what. The tutorial you sent me says to chmod the home of the user.. earlier on you told me to chown the directory I wanted the user to be able to access and write in and that that directory should be its home |
| 20:57.38 | jordanm | stew: myisam has performance benefits in some situations |
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| 20:58.08 | jordanm | you don't always need transactions, foreign key contraints, and other goodies innodb has to offer |
| 20:58.20 | abrotman | just use pgsql like a sane person |
| 20:58.24 | themill | sure. You could also use csv files. |
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| 20:59.34 | _DomY-Dom | stew: I had to use it I had no other choice ompaul and I had tarred the /etc, /var/lib/mysql and /var/www, I didn't have access to phpmyadmin at the time. But yes nezZario did say that next time, I should use mysqldump. Though there is something interesting, this time, I used the same backup but myisam wasn't required. Maybe it's because I installed the mysql-server after having copied the old one in and it kind of built it at its installation. Anyway |
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| 20:59.45 | stew | you can also just say fuckit, chmod -R 777 /var/www ; i don't need security. people should use more transactions and database constraints |
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| 21:00.36 | abrotman | oh ... files! |
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| 21:01.10 | jordanm | _DomY-Dom: the table engine is decided in the CREATE TABLE ... |
| 21:01.24 | jordanm | 5.1 defaults to innodb, previous versions defaulted to myisam |
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| 21:02.02 | _DomY-Dom | stew: Then you would be wrong in saying webmin is useless ! |
| 21:02.12 | stew | eh? |
| 21:02.18 | stew | !webmin |
| 21:02.18 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 21:02.39 | _DomY-Dom | Let me explain |
| 21:02.43 | themill | wonders how many highlights don gets from that factoid |
| 21:03.20 | stew | i would realy hope the "poor quality" part is much improved by now |
| 21:03.56 | stew | I think that originally came from me when they filed an RFS with a pacakge that was basically just untarring the entire upstream tarball and then moving stuff around by hand in postinst |
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| 21:04.00 | abrotman | i think they just had another CVE |
| 21:04.00 | _DomY-Dom | See, what I'm trying to raise here in the debian channel, is the issue of people saying this is pointless, etc. But in Webmin, when you create your user, you can decide that its home directory will be /.…. and that it has access to that /... and can write in it and it does not see the other directories when you connect with that user ! I have been trying all evening to ask stew how to do it through the terminal. However, his method has not worked, o |
| 21:04.09 | _DomY-Dom | ompaul: a bit of analysis there, you taught me well master jedi ;) |
| 21:04.21 | _DomY-Dom | Waiting for a counter-argument for that one x) |
| 21:04.35 | stew | _DomY-Dom: my method didn't work because you ran "chown -R /" |
| 21:05.08 | _DomY-Dom | stew: I reinstalled since. I am retrying it and asking you what to do after that step: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22961/ |
| 21:05.40 | stew | _DomY-Dom: what exactly does webmin actaully do when you set a user to be locked to a directory in webmin? |
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| 21:05.43 | SpComb | _DomY-Dom: when you connect via SCP/SFTP, or via bash and ls? |
| 21:05.43 | abrotman | when you connect with that user how? FTP? ssh? |
| 21:05.46 | stew | _DomY-Dom: like how does it enforce this? |
| 21:05.54 | jhutchins | How do I force a scsi rescan? |
| 21:06.02 | abrotman | jhutchins: yes |
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| 21:06.07 | _DomY-Dom | stew: since I find this tutorial unclear http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 I also tried it but it didn't work. It executes commands in the terminal obviously. But then which ones ? is it a long complciated sequence that none of you is able to master ? |
| 21:06.08 | abrotman | oh .. how! |
| 21:06.24 | abrotman | !tell jhutchins about scsi rescan |
| 21:06.37 | stew | _DomY-Dom: what? |
| 21:06.43 | _DomY-Dom | SpComb: SFTP. |
| 21:06.54 | abrotman | or FTPS? |
| 21:07.09 | stew | _DomY-Dom: yes, http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22961/ looks correct now |
| 21:07.37 | jhutchins | abrotman: thx |
| 21:07.38 | _DomY-Dom | stew: the first bit was my answer to your "my method didn't work because you ran "chown -R /"" and my second bit was an answer to your "what exactly does webmin actaully do when you set a user to be locked to a directory in webmin?" |
| 21:08.20 | stew | _DomY-Dom: i'm sure that there was nothing in the tutorial that was unclear in a way that would make "chown -R /" seem like a good idea |
| 21:08.46 | stew | _DomY-Dom: the fact taht you have NO IDEA what webmin is *actually* doing is a good argument against something like that running your server |
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| 21:09.54 | stew | you'll find that people in here are also biased (perhaps now wrongly) about how bad it has been in the past. its not in debian because it was such a huge pain because of all the security problems that nobody that had enough of a clue to maintain it could be bothered to touch it |
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| 21:12.04 | _DomY-Dom | stew: I didn't do that chown on purpose ! I pressed enter by mistake. Anyways, I want to do it again now, what should I do after this : http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22961/ ? |
| 21:12.14 | patient | in order to install debian testing, am i fine with 1cd or do i need multiple? |
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| 21:12.37 | patient | i see there are 71 |
| 21:12.42 | stew | patient: just get the netinst from stable. there is no reason to get anything more, since all the packages are going to be replaces with packages from testing anyway |
| 21:12.48 | stew | _DomY-Dom: nothing, that's it |
| 21:12.59 | patient | hm i see |
| 21:13.25 | patient | so i should just do net-install and change sources.list and apt.conf to point to testing? |
| 21:13.27 | _DomY-Dom | _DomY-Dom: clearly not… the tutorial has "# chown root.root /home/user" and "# usermod -d / user" after that… is that necessary ? |
| 21:13.50 | stew | _DomY-Dom: i'm confused as to how you hitting enter by mistake was a result of the tutorial being unclear |
| 21:13.50 | abrotman | patient: that's generally the recommended way .. but 'wheezy', not 'testing' |
| 21:14.09 | patient | yes yes, thanks stew and abrotman |
| 21:14.20 | stew | _DomY-Dom: the home directory for the user should be the chroot direcotry. yes, the chroot directory should be owned by root |
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| 21:14.23 | patient | thought you had to install through the weekly snapshots |
| 21:14.27 | stew | does it really say root.root and not root:root? |
| 21:14.30 | _DomY-Dom | stew: It wasn't… That was something completely different. Ok big misunderstanding there.. |
| 21:14.39 | abrotman | patient: nope, and generally that won't work |
| 21:14.48 | _DomY-Dom | stew: yes i just copy pasted it |
| 21:14.52 | patient | ok thanks a lot |
| 21:14.52 | _DomY-Dom | stew: it does say that |
| 21:15.10 | _DomY-Dom | stew: though I always retype my commands so I wouldn't have done that.. I'm not that stupid.. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 |
| 21:15.17 | _DomY-Dom | stew: Third time i'm sending the link |
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| 21:15.33 | abrotman | should he read it a third time? |
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| 21:15.50 | stew | i don't need to, i can do this from memory i've done it enough times |
| 21:16.23 | stew | and look at that! its half past GnT o'clock |
| 21:16.26 | stew | happy friday |
| 21:16.35 | abrotman | hands stew a stew lager |
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| 21:19.07 | sysdef | is there something like (a working) pastebinit for squeeze? |
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| 21:20.33 | abrotman | sysdef: pastebinit |
| 21:21.30 | sysdef | abrotman: THIS API HAS BEEN DISABLED. Please use Pastebin's new API. http://pastebin.com/api |
| 21:21.43 | abrotman | so use a different pastebin |
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| 21:22.04 | themill | dpkg: tell sysdef about pastebinit config |
| 21:22.18 | themill | (or /msg dpkg nopaste) |
| 21:23.14 | jelly-hme | sysdef: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com |
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| 21:23.43 | jelly-hme | (no minimum length limits) |
| 21:23.46 | _DomY-Dom | stew: if that (http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22961/ all I needed to do for my user "totemis" to have only access to /var/www/maintool/public_html/www, then I can officially tell you that, it has not worked. As in, when I connect with totemis in SFTP, the home directory is /home/totemis and the user can view all the other directories in /. If I do usermod -d /var/www/.… totemis then its home directory is /var/www but it can still view all the ot |
| 21:23.56 | tidux | does Debian support the Allwiner A10 in armel or armhf? |
| 21:23.59 | sysdef | and the maintainer won't fix the config? |
| 21:24.13 | tidux | the Mk802 stick-computer has an unlocked bootloader |
| 21:24.17 | tidux | so I'd love to Debianize it |
| 21:24.35 | jelly-hme | sysdef: the maintainer has interesting methodology |
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| 21:25.25 | sysdef | i see |
| 21:25.43 | _DomY-Dom | stew seems to be away - anyone else know how to associate a user only to one directory in which it can read and write through SFTP without using webmin/ through the terminal ? |
| 21:26.03 | themill | !dbugs 673311 |
| 21:26.08 | dpkg | #673311:N[pastebinit] pastebinit: API deprecated (upstream confirmed); Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:01 UTC [673617] |
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| 21:26.44 | _DomY-Dom | jordanm: what was your way with scponly again? |
| 21:27.02 | jelly-hme | yay for Severity wars. |
| 21:27.44 | themill | yeah, sad. Much more fun to fiddle with severities than fix the package |
| 21:27.56 | _DomY-Dom | themill: do you know by any chance? |
| 21:28.02 | jelly-hme | themill: do a NMU! |
| 21:28.04 | jelly-hme | hides |
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| 21:30.37 | _DomY-Dom | At this stage, I do almost feel like saying "#debian you are disappointing how dare you insult webmin of all these names while you cannot say how to make a user which has access to only one directory in which it can read and write through SFTP on the whole server". |
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| 21:31.11 | jelly-hme | _DomY-Dom: but you won't do that, right? |
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| 21:32.07 | _DomY-Dom | jelly-hme: lol while I kind of just have ^^". Do you by any chance know how to do this? This tutorial was clearly unsuccessful: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590. And jordanm never got a chance to finish explaining his "scponly" method. |
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| 21:32.53 | jelly-hme | _DomY-Dom: I can't answer that question with making you angry. |
| 21:33.07 | tharkun | smells blood in the air |
| 21:33.17 | _DomY-Dom | jelly-hme: Doesn't matter if you don't know. |
| 21:33.24 | jelly-hme | *no comment* |
| 21:33.34 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: do you know? And if you do, can you help me instead of sniffing the air ^^" |
| 21:34.01 | jelly-hme | If you come back tomorrow morning CEST I'll both know and be bothered to help a bit |
| 21:35.18 | _DomY-Dom | jelly-hme: No, sorry, I need to get this done by this evening, and I will get this done by this evening. If it involves getting every single person on this #debian channel to admit that they do not know how to do it and then finding some Webmin thiing that'll just do the thing for you. |
| 21:35.46 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: Can you post your goal please. |
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| 21:36.41 | _DomY-Dom | _DomY-Dom: Having a user called let's say "totemis" to be able to see only the directory /var/www/maintool/.… when it accesses my server through SFTP and giving it the permission to write in that directory. |
| 21:36.51 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: Having a user called let's say "totemis" to be able to see only the directory /var/www/maintool/.… when it accesses my server through SFTP and giving it the permission to write in that directory. |
| 21:37.04 | _DomY-Dom | **God I'm tired to have written that message to myself..** |
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| 21:38.06 | esto | http://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze |
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| 21:38.20 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: sounds fairly straight forward right? Well, I have been unable to do so for now through the command line. When Webmin used to work, I had used it to do it for me. |
| 21:38.25 | _DomY-Dom | esto: Hi, will check out your link. |
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| 21:38.55 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sftp+only+shell which in turn has this link on the first line http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94 |
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| 21:40.37 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: I've done this bit https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sftp+only+shell already, let me have a look at the second bit |
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| 21:41.13 | tharkun | :) |
| 21:41.58 | SYSGEEK | Hey I heard a lot of things about how Linux can be installed on everything. Can someone help me install it in my toaster? |
| 21:42.08 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: Nope I can still view all the other directories. |
| 21:42.16 | toor__ | I cant upgrade to testing, I have this message |
| 21:42.21 | toor__ | abierto: 310; cerrado: 353; diferido: 6; conflicto: 7 O |
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| 21:42.54 | SYSGEEK | Or my refrigerator? OR MY TOILET?! :D |
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| 21:43.20 | SYSGEEK | LINUX-POWERED TOILETS! GET YOURS NOW! |
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| 21:43.50 | lapsusbr1tus | aircrack-ng not in wheezy? why? |
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| 21:44.35 | win98for3v4 | hi |
| 21:44.38 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: A horrible hack would be to change /home permissions from drwxr-xr-x to drwxr-x--- |
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| 21:44.59 | pjc_ | toor__: looks like package conflicts |
| 21:45.05 | tharkun | That is if you are in a hurry and then take your time to do a proper research on how to do it properly |
| 21:45.24 | SYSGEEK | My girlfriend runs Linux. She's sexy. The storage medium can be found in the depths of her rectum. |
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| 21:45.30 | pjc_ | toor__: can you pastebin the output from apt-get -f install |
| 21:45.32 | themill | SYSGEEK: go away |
| 21:45.57 | SYSGEEK | U Jelly? |
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| 21:46.14 | toor__ | pjc_: I use aptitude, in apt i can upgrade |
| 21:47.05 | Agent_Orange | i have to admit that was kinda funny |
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| 21:48.00 | win98for3v4 | anyone know of any mirror sites for the debian distro? when i try debian.org, it says "this website has been blocked by your system administrator" |
| 21:48.40 | win98for3v4 | anyone know of a morror site? |
| 21:48.42 | tharkun | win98for3v4: ask your system administrator about that. If he/she blocked one, maybe all are blocked |
| 21:49.00 | win98for3v4 | um, i have no system administrator, im in direct control of this pc, and |
| 21:49.07 | win98for3v4 | i just reinstalled the os yesterday |
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| 21:49.43 | pjc_ | win98for3v4: are you in control of the firewall/ web content filtering? |
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| 21:50.14 | win98for3v4 | yes, i have control of all the network equipment i use to connect |
| 21:50.16 | tharkun | win98for3v4: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt |
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| 21:50.23 | aleminio | hey guys, do you have any suggestions of a good php editor for linux with an ftp file manager built in? |
| 21:50.35 | tharkun | win98for3v4: disregard that is something else |
| 21:50.40 | ivo_ | probably eclipse |
| 21:50.47 | ivo_ | or netbeans |
| 21:50.50 | win98for3v4 | that ftp server you sent me wont work either |
| 21:51.05 | win98for3v4 | the mirrors.txt |
| 21:51.12 | themill | win98for3v4: sounds like you're not in control of all your network equipment then |
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| 21:51.27 | rredd4 | when typing this in inittab 1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f YOUR_USER_NAME tty1 </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1 where it says your user name, where do i put my password |
| 21:51.42 | pjc_ | win98for3v4: port 21 |
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| 21:52.44 | aleminio | I have eclipse installed but even with the "remote systems" addon, it's so buggy |
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| 21:53.02 | aleminio | and uncomfortable, it's ashame there's nothing better |
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| 21:53.23 | sponji_ | whats the apt-get command to install glib ?? |
| 21:53.28 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: add chrooted to your search term and lots of pages will come in handy. |
| 21:54.12 | pjc_ | sponji_: remove the words "whats the" and "command to" |
| 21:54.13 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun:: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22963/ |
| 21:54.42 | sponji_ | Unable to locate package glib |
| 21:55.16 | format_c | sponji_, aptitude search libglib |
| 21:55.34 | format_c | aptitude install libglib2.0-0 |
| 21:55.47 | sponji_ | awesome |
| 21:55.49 | sponji_ | thank you |
| 21:55.51 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun; sorry missed something, here is the right link: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22964/ |
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| 21:56.15 | toor__ | pjc_: 468 no actualizados. |
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| 21:56.20 | format_c | sponji_, just search before, pick the appropriate package and install it |
| 21:56.27 | format_c | cd |
| 21:56.32 | format_c | oops |
| 21:56.34 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: and no I did not write "username" instead of "totemis" when doing the usermod. |
| 21:56.57 | sponji_ | libglib2.0-dev will do for compiling irssi ? |
| 21:57.15 | format_c | This is delivering the header files. |
| 21:57.34 | format_c | Normally you only need this if you're compiling programs makeing use of libglib |
| 21:57.40 | pjc_ | toor__: can you access the installer from http sources? |
| 21:57.58 | pjc_ | toor__: or whatever it be |
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| 21:58.24 | _DomY-Dom | Hi all - if anyone can help, I will be very grateful. My goal is to "have a user called let's say "totemis" to be able to see only the directory /var/www/maintool/.… when it accesses my server through SFTP and giving it the permission to write in that directory. 22:36_DomY-Dom tharkun: Having a user called let's say "totemis" to be able to see only the directory /var/www/maintool/.… when it accesses my server through SFTP and giving it the permiss |
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| 22:00.12 | _DomY-Dom | *sorry for repeating block my fault |
| 22:00.28 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: taylor make the filesystem so they can't read upstream |
| 22:00.56 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: I'm sorry, what's wrong ? |
| 22:00.57 | fishhead | I have installed wheezy gnome 3 without any installation problems other than I can not use networkmanager as user..... anyone know how to fix this issue |
| 22:01.10 | tharkun | But let me keep on researching it has become some what of a challenge. (Unless some idiocy on the office comes across) |
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| 22:01.50 | rgr | networkmanager as user? |
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| 22:02.19 | agami | fishhead: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Set_up_PolicyKit_permissions |
| 22:02.33 | craigevil | fishhead, make sure your user is in the netdev group |
| 22:02.33 | fishhead | It will not display any wireless networks but it is connected to the internet |
| 22:02.44 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: paste /etc/shells |
| 22:02.44 | fishhead | I did check that |
| 22:02.50 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: stew says he's done it loads of times and seems to be thinking that I'm an idiot not having managed to do it so he's just stopped replying apparently. jordanm is maybe absent but he had a way using "scponly" which he said was fairly straigh tforward. Thanks for helping. |
| 22:03.04 | craigevil | fishhead, http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#NetworkManager |
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| 22:03.39 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: /etc/shells: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22967/ |
| 22:04.18 | toor__ | gpgkeys: key 07DC563D1F41B907 not found on keyserver |
| 22:04.46 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: grep totemis /etc/passwd |
| 22:04.51 | pjc_ | wat? |
| 22:04.58 | lapsusbr1tus | I installed the deb for ubuntu at aircrack-ng's site.. no warnings, and seems like its working.. taking the chance :) |
| 22:05.08 | pjc_ | toor__: it went from ftp to gpg |
| 22:05.20 | tharkun | !tell lapsusbr1tus ssb |
| 22:05.30 | tharkun | !tell lapsusbr1tus about ssb |
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| 22:05.57 | tharkun | lapsusbr1tus: not much fuss get the source and recompile, nothing fancy |
| 22:06.15 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22968/ |
| 22:07.30 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: ls /home |grep totemis |
| 22:07.48 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: it returns "totemis" |
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| 22:09.00 | toor__ | pjc_: I use the url of step 2 http://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning |
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| 22:09.50 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: I have a prety close idea on what is going on, have you checked /var/log/auth.log for any error or warning messages? |
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| 22:10.16 | lapsusbr1tus | tharkun: ok, probably better, or should I "upgrade" to sid? testing is pretty stable... so sid probably also not that bad :) |
| 22:10.42 | jordanm | !sid |
| 22:10.42 | dpkg | The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
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| 22:11.42 | tharkun | lapsusbr1tus: as dpkg stated you get to keep all the pieces. Maybe a package or two from sid. It ain't a safe place if you need something to do with your computer |
| 22:11.59 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: Change the home dir of your user to whatever you specified on your chroot |
| 22:12.15 | chalcedony | ~$ pidgin |
| 22:12.15 | chalcedony | Exiting because another libpurple client is already running. |
| 22:12.15 | chalcedony | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.19 | lapsusbr1tus | ok :) |
| 22:12.22 | pjc_ | toor__: and if you use http://wwwkeys.pgp.net as the keyserver? |
| 22:12.28 | chalcedony | nothing shows, i can't kill what it can't find |
| 22:12.47 | tharkun | !tell chalcedony lsof |
| 22:12.48 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: didn't do any "chroot". |
| 22:13.10 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22965/ says different |
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| 22:14.12 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: Ah, I see so you mean do "usermod -d /var/www/maintool/public_html/www totemis" ? |
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| 22:14.30 | tharkun | Do as you see fit |
| 22:14.38 | toor__ | pjc_: gpgkeys: no key data found for http://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net/ |
| 22:14.40 | tharkun | !lsof |
| 22:14.40 | dpkg | methinks lsof is LiSt Open Files, "aptitude install lsof" . See also <open files>. |
| 22:14.48 | tharkun | chalcedony: ^^ |
| 22:15.31 | chalcedony | tharkun, losf seems to list a lot of things.. |
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| 22:15.39 | chalcedony | lsof too ;) |
| 22:17.17 | tharkun | chalcedony: /msg dpkg open files |
| 22:17.33 | tharkun | it will maybe show you who is responsable for it |
| 22:18.00 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: still can't connect in sftp with the user although if I could I probably would end up with that directory as the home one but still access and viewing of the other folders |
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| 22:18.54 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: what is /var/log/auth.log telling you? |
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| 22:19.49 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: Ahah, interesting ! http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22969/ |
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| 22:20.20 | pjc_ | toor__: no idea... try gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net -a --send-keys xxxxx |
| 22:20.31 | pjc_ | works for me |
| 22:20.44 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: fix as instructed |
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| 22:21.27 | toor__ | xD bash: try: command not found xD LOL |
| 22:21.32 | toor__ | my error |
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| 22:22.27 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: chown -R totemis:users /home/totemis |
| 22:22.31 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: ? |
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| 22:23.15 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: you are in far better hands now. |
| 22:23.27 | toor__ | pjc_: but gpg say me atention: not expor nothing (in bad english) |
| 22:23.41 | pjc_ | export |
| 22:24.15 | pjc_ | and the key was generated in step one? gpg --list-keys |
| 22:24.23 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: ok will let you know when I get it :D |
| 22:24.36 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: BTW Are you using debian? |
| 22:24.44 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: yes lol |
| 22:24.50 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: do you mean on my local computer ? |
| 22:24.56 | toor__ | pjc_: is the pgp of 07DC563D1F41B907 multimedia testing |
| 22:25.28 | tharkun | _DomY-Dom: ls -ld /var/www drwxr-xr-x 9 501 staff 4096 Jun 8 14:51 /var/www |
| 22:25.38 | tharkun | the 501 is the one i don't like |
| 22:26.13 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: yes just changed that |
| 22:26.22 | _DomY-Dom | tharkun: are you following #openssh ? |
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| 22:27.15 | pjc_ | toor__: the key should be 8 chars long |
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| 22:28.17 | cromag | hi, does anyone know if there is a channel for lftp ftp client somewhere ? |
| 22:28.21 | fishhead | Ok have wheezy user networkmanager working now...I installed from wireless and found the settings saved in /etc/network/interfaces just set it to default settings thanks for helping |
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| 22:28.31 | jeddi | this the right place to ask about unstable's KDE having a failing krunner? I've read a few of the bug reports, and then upgraded to experimental (4.8.3?) for most of my kde packages - but krunner's still failing on startup and on subsequent manual starts. |
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| 22:28.42 | Doobie420 | apt-cacher-ng is a great package for enterprise |
| 22:29.01 | toor__ | pjc_: I use this guide http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=19732 |
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| 22:29.27 | Doobie420 | acts as a proxy for apt upgrades, saves tons of time and bandwidth, fricken awesome! |
| 22:29.33 | wilfredor | where I could to find the driver for http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/GENIUS_TVGO_A03X_Hardware_chips.jpg ?? |
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| 22:30.45 | jeddi | Doobie420: good for home use too - i used to use approx, but it hiccuped occasionally - apt-cacher-ng is pretty robust. |
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| 22:31.07 | Doobie420 | jeddi, i only have 1 system at home, but good for you! |
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| 22:31.52 | jeddi | Doobie420: i have one desktop and two laptops .. so a bit more useful .. but even with just oen machine i find it really useful for when i set up vm's .. i tend to have at least a half dozen running in various states. |
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| 22:32.32 | Doobie420 | true |
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| 22:33.27 | jelly-hme | how do I make apt or aptitude or whatever not catch and ignore SIGINT? |
| 22:34.11 | nsadmin | jeddi, is this the place to ask... well it is #debian, and there is a #debian-next on some other network, maybe there too... there;s also a #debian-kde. |
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| 22:34.39 | econdudeawesome | howdy! if I'm running a java program that might be causing a hardware conflict, how do I log this info to a desktop txt file? $java -jar <command> | then what? |
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| 22:34.59 | nsadmin | jeddi, as you're running experimental and sid, could you file a bug report when you fix it. with patches? |
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| 22:35.17 | patient | can't you redirect the standard output econdudeawesome ? |
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| 22:36.31 | toor__ | pjc_: whit keys.gnupg.net found |
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| 22:44.57 | jeddi | nsadmin: i looked for debian-kde, but wasn't coming up in list .. will try looking again. will post a bug if i get no joy - i'm not confident of resolving it by myself though. there's a lot of rc's under .kde that may be contributing to this problem ... |
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| 22:45.05 | arthurdent | is there a safe way to install python3.2 on squeeze via apt? |
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| 22:46.15 | arthurdent | as far as i can tell it's not in backports and only in wheezy |
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| 22:46.38 | themill | arthurdent: not really. You could have it in an schroot (/msg dpkg schroot) or upgrade to wheezy (/msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy). You won't find core bits of the toolchain backported |
| 22:46.45 | jeddi | arthurdent: what do you need python3.2 for? there may be other ways of accessing it that are easier |
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| 22:47.16 | jeddi | arthurdent: sorry - that sounded confrontational - i mean - what scenarios do you want to use it for? if just plain dev, a vm might work (as themill alludes) |
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| 22:47.45 | bfig | hello, my father (who uses windows) accidentally removed an important folder from his usb pendrive, i'd like to see if i can get the info back. is there a way to get the files back from the pendrive? |
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| 22:48.16 | arthurdent | jeddi: i'm installing it on the loadset for my college, bossman wants to use squeeze and not wheezy for stability or whatever |
| 22:48.16 | bfig | he just deleted them (on windows), and now i'm on debian, that's why i ask here. i was wondering if you could point me to a command/website |
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| 22:48.31 | nkuttler | bfig: try ##windows |
| 22:48.35 | themill | jeddi: stability has an awful lot going for it. |
| 22:48.42 | jeddi | bfig: testdisk (package) might help. recoverjpeg will pull back, obviously enough, jpeg's. |
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| 22:49.02 | bfig | ok, gonna see what's up with testdisk |
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| 22:49.58 | jeddi | bfig: magicrescue - check that package too |
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| 22:50.24 | johndoe_ | I'm getting this error when trying to update brand new Debian system: http://paste.debian.net/173584/ |
| 22:50.33 | bfig | jeddi, do you have experience with photorec? |
| 22:50.47 | jeddi | oh, themill, arthurdent, i'm a big proponent of stability. there's not much that *needs* python 3+, hence my question. |
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| 22:51.09 | bfig | the man page for testdisk is extremely shallow |
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| 22:51.11 | bfig | googles |
| 22:51.22 | jeddi | bfig: i've used photorec and recoverjpeg .. both work similarly well - only used them to recover image files from sd and cf cards on (v)fat filesystems. |
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| 22:51.48 | jeddi | bfig: lots of doc pages out there for these tools - lots of people have horror stories they've documented. often with success stories appended, though, which is good. :) |
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| 22:52.02 | bfig | nice |
| 22:52.29 | jeddi | bfig: i'd suggest that you do a dd of the entire disk - then you can work from that image - it'll be a) much faster, b) give you some peace of mind that you can leave the device entirely alone - you never have to even mount the thing. |
| 22:52.45 | bfig | ok |
| 22:53.06 | jeddi | bfig: you're hip with how dd works, yeah? |
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| 22:53.58 | bfig | more or less... i have an input stream and an output stream (in my case /dev/sdb1 and the target file, i think) |
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| 22:54.27 | bfig | dd /dev/sdb1 ~/file/path/thediskfile |
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| 22:54.43 | jeddi | bfig: yup. so just use dd to replicate the whole of /dev/sdb (I'd suggest) into a file - say 'sdb.dd' in your home directory - and then you can run all these tools against that image file - as i say it'll run much faster, and you can quickly experiment with the different recovery tools. |
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| 22:54.55 | jeddi | bfig: dd if=/dev/sdb of=~/sdb.dd bs=1024 |
| 22:55.02 | jeddi | (or similar) |
| 22:55.13 | bfig | why the bs=1024? |
| 22:55.16 | jeddi | optional. |
| 22:55.20 | jeddi | drop it - it'll be fine. |
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| 22:55.24 | jeddi | habit, in my case, sorry. |
| 22:55.29 | jeddi | bs = block size. |
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| 22:55.56 | albech | what am i missing in my sources, since i cannot get the virtual package freebsd-smbfs? |
| 22:55.57 | bfig | yes, i was checking the manpage, but what does it do? |
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| 22:56.13 | jeddi | bfig: the bs bit? |
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| 22:56.28 | jeddi | bfig: it configures (from memory) the size block to read at a time. it's almost meaningless in this context. |
| 22:56.31 | bfig | yes, does that limit the buffer size or somethingl ike that? |
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| 22:57.07 | themill | albech: what's the output of "dpkg --print-architecture" on that machine? |
| 22:57.19 | bfig | mind if i ask where do you find it useful/necessary? |
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| 22:57.35 | albech | i386 |
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| 22:58.00 | albech | themill, i386 |
| 22:58.01 | mparodi | what was the command to find the version of a package? |
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| 22:58.07 | jeddi | bfig: ya know, now i think about it - i've never found it useful .. at least not on gnu/linux. i think in another life - about a decade ago - i found some performance differences based on bs for dd on some solaris systems - if you matched it with the file sytsem's expectations .. but maybe that's my memory playing tricks. |
| 22:58.12 | themill | albech: that package only exists for the kfreebsd architectures. |
| 22:58.13 | mparodi | I'm mean, here, there was a bot... |
| 22:58.15 | jeddi | mparodi: dpkg -l {packagename} |
| 22:58.21 | themill | mparodi: /msg judd versions $package |
| 22:58.34 | bfig | cool |
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| 22:58.59 | mparodi | it wasn't judd iirc |
| 22:59.04 | albech | themill, before i used the smbfs package with great success, but somehow it is no longer available and its alternative cifs-utils is giving me some strange problems |
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| 22:59.24 | arthurdent | jeddi: the school teaches python3, so that's the reason |
| 22:59.24 | mparodi | anyway, it doesn't find any "virtuoso" package |
| 22:59.39 | themill | mparodi: it was judd if you're talking about any time in the last 5 years. |
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| 22:59.45 | jeddi | bfig: but you may want to experiment with different bs's yourself one time if you're bored .. see if you notice any differences. i suspect on a rinky dinky usb-2 flash device talking to a sata-2 or sata-3 device, there won't be much differences to be seen. |
| 22:59.48 | arthurdent | I'm trying to automate the install process as much as possible, installing from source is not a big deal though |
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| 23:00.01 | themill | mparodi: it's virtuoso-opensource |
| 23:00.26 | zophy | emc2 symmetrix with about 50 144 Gb drives..how much terabytes is that ? |
| 23:00.30 | jeddi | arthurdent: fairy nuff. i'd be tempted to crank up a vm then. or the schroot approach as themill suggests - probably easier. |
| 23:00.34 | bfig | mparodi, :) |
| 23:00.36 | bfig | >_> |
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| 23:00.43 | jeddi | arthurdent: installing from source is *so* 1990's. |
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| 23:01.12 | mparodi | bfig, do I know you? |
| 23:01.15 | jeddi | arthurdent: if you want to automate it .. use vagrant wrapped aorund a virtualbox instance. Fun. :) |
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| 23:01.24 | zophy | the 90's were grand, lots of chicks in panties |
| 23:01.29 | zophy | luved it |
| 23:01.35 | arthurdent | that's alright, i'm just going to throw the python 3.2 from source install into a bash script :P |
| 23:01.36 | jeddi | zophy: maybe we lived in different 90's. :) |
| 23:01.45 | bfig | maybe, i have the gift of omnipresence on the internet |
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| 23:02.07 | mparodi | themill, it's definitely virtuoso-opensource, thanks. but somehow it's not on my repos o.o |
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| 23:02.35 | zophy | UPS just left, see if the NSA moved the sat cams |
| 23:02.39 | zophy | oops |
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| 23:02.54 | themill | mparodi: it's not in wheezy atm |
| 23:03.06 | mparodi | yep |
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| 23:03.14 | mparodi | I wonder why |
| 23:03.28 | themill | !why is virtuoso-opensource not in testing |
| 23:03.29 | dpkg | virtuoso-opensource is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=virtuoso-opensource |
| 23:03.30 | mparodi | it's in squeeze after all |
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| 23:04.41 | themill | mparodi: it was removed from testing because it wouldn't build on a pile of architectures and was causing problems to other transitions |
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| 23:05.46 | mparodi | I see |
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| 23:07.58 | mparodi | it was a bad idea to purge it from my system a while ago u.u |
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| 23:08.46 | Iridos | dpkg, tell mparodi about snapshots |
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| 23:25.03 | nightfrog | I have 6.0.5 net install on a cd and at the install it gets to the "Detect network hardware" and goes no further. Why? |
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| 23:26.13 | nightfrog | It does this with Install and the GUI Install |
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| 23:29.31 | MOHCTP | nightfrog: what you want ? |
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| 23:30.01 | nsadmin | nightfrog, so it just freezes? |
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| 23:32.11 | nightfrog | nsadmin: Yep. |
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| 23:32.59 | nsadmin | are you at that point now? if so... hit alt-F2... does that take you to a different screen? |
| 23:33.04 | nightfrog | Hmm. The power wasn't connected to the floppy and was causing it to freeze |
| 23:33.28 | nsadmin | seems weird... it's working now? |
| 23:33.49 | nightfrog | Yep. Thanks |
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| 23:34.07 | DataMinor | do you micrwave them right out of the freezer ? |
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| 23:34.50 | DataMinor | i like to grind my cd's under my car tires before i microwave them |
| 23:35.08 | DataMinor | gives them that crunchy 60's sound |
| 23:36.08 | DataMinor | i wonder what software PHIL Specter used ? |
| 23:37.18 | dvs | tries to make a network connection from his floppy drive. |
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| 23:38.06 | bowling900 | dvs you need to push harder |
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| 23:39.13 | nsadmin | the baby will come out sooner |
| 23:39.33 | DataMinor | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.03 | bowling900 | floppy baby, 5 1/4 inches aww |
| 23:40.31 | nsadmin | as he grows he shrinks |
| 23:40.34 | themill | DataMinor: we've had previous discusions about being more signal and less noise in the channel. |
| 23:40.36 | nsadmin | to 3.5in |
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| 23:40.57 | bowling900 | when he hits puberty he loses his corners |
| 23:41.10 | bowling900 | sry lol |
| 23:41.16 | DataMinor | themill, yes, you are correct |
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| 23:44.16 | nightfrog | I need the e100/d101m_ucode.bin. I downloaded firmware-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso and wondering if I waste a cd on this if it will have the file I need |
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| 23:45.16 | dvs | nightfrog: There is also a firmware.tar.gz file which will also contain those firmware files. |
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| 23:47.13 | nightfrog | Seems to only search the floppy drive instead of the flash drive I have in |
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| 23:47.38 | craigevil | download the firmware-linux-nonfree.deb and put it on a flash drive, the installer will find it and install it |
| 23:48.21 | nsadmin | the installer would find the .deb? has to be in the / of the flashdrive? |
| 23:49.08 | craigevil | yes |
| 23:50.24 | craigevil | i used the netinstall and put firmware-ipw2x00.deb on a flash drive, installer found it and did the install using wpa on the neighbors wireless |
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| 23:52.05 | craigevil | which is why it pisses me off when people say you cant use wpa to install, when i have done it multiple times with no problems |
| 23:52.35 | dvs | you can't use WPA to install! |
| 23:52.56 | craigevil | yes you can, READ the install guide |
| 23:53.11 | craigevil | i have done it on several different machines |
| 23:53.29 | themill | craigevil: with the wheezy installer, I take it? |
| 23:53.37 | craigevil | squeeze |
| 23:53.49 | craigevil | its how i installed on this thinkpad a year ago |
| 23:54.37 | craigevil | sat on my backporch and used the neighbors wireless took over an hour and a half to install kde |
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| 23:55.39 | craigevil | by the time it was done the sun had set and i was getting wet from the dew |
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| 23:58.18 | dvs | Nope, it says "WEP Security key" |
| 23:58.24 | themill | craigevil: kmuto installer? WPA support wasn't merged into the installer images until july 2011. |
