| 00:00.07 | dvs | apparently, the youngins think that CD/DVDs are too fragile |
| 00:00.25 | abrotman | he wants to use DVD media .. so he's ont saying to abolish it all |
| 00:00.38 | rizlah | Who seriously burns 6 CDs? |
| 00:01.08 | craigevil | who downloads a dvd when the tiny netinstall cd works |
| 00:01.14 | rizlah | 6? Oops I mean 53. |
| 00:01.25 | craigevil | and not everyone has a dvd drive |
| 00:01.36 | abrotman | rizlah: who burns a DVD ... |
| 00:01.41 | themill | rizlah: so you'd burn all the DVDs? |
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| 00:01.58 | abrotman | rizlah: anyone that knows what htey're doing uses the netinst, either on a CD or a USB drive |
| 00:02.02 | rizlah | I burn a single DVD, and I could _possibly_ burn 5 or 6. |
| 00:02.05 | rizlah | 53? lolno. |
| 00:02.07 | abrotman | ha! |
| 00:02.09 | abrotman | !pal rizlah |
| 00:02.10 | dpkg | points at rizlah and laughs |
| 00:02.35 | rizlah | s/burn/would burn/ |
| 00:02.45 | abrotman | that's just silly |
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| 00:03.14 | themill | rizlah: so now just replace "DVD" with "CD" in your statement. |
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| 00:04.59 | TehRabbitt-Work | hey, trying to get squid working, but having some issues... I want it to act as a transparent proxy and I have DHCP set to point all networked machines to eth1's IP address, eth0 has a gateway set to the main router connected to my WAN. |
| 00:05.32 | TehRabbitt-Work | out of the box, I can browse the internet, but it's Extremely slow when requesting pages (routing issue?) and it seems like squid isn't working at all. |
| 00:05.55 | TehRabbitt-Work | it's a debian box with nothing else installed except openssh-server and squid |
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| 00:07.42 | TehRabbitt-Work | anything I might have missed? do I need to add something to iptables? |
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| 00:14.38 | dvs | yells at management |
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| 00:17.49 | addaddrx | would it be easy to |
| 00:18.02 | addaddrx | create custom debian distro? |
| 00:18.21 | abrotman | depends what you want it to do .. lots of information linked from google |
| 00:18.23 | addaddrx | same, just other version of few selected packages |
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| 00:18.59 | d1zzYLuLz | is there a way to specify which video driver to use? |
| 00:19.11 | d1zzYLuLz | i noticed during install that it installed xf86-video-intel, blah blah and some others |
| 00:19.24 | d1zzYLuLz | and now im stuck in 1024x768 resolution, and the only other option is 800x600 |
| 00:19.38 | TehRabbitt-Work | whats the best way to load iptables on boot btw? |
| 00:19.39 | addaddrx | feasible to dp it in a week, for a medium linux/c devel + admin |
| 00:19.41 | addaddrx | ? |
| 00:19.55 | ofware | d1zzYLuLz, what video card do you have? |
| 00:19.59 | TehRabbitt-Work | i installed iptables-persistant but when I add it to boot using update-rc.d it gives me an LSB Default-Start values warning |
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| 00:20.14 | d1zzYLuLz | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) |
| 00:20.26 | addaddrx | tehrabbid matbe make own init.d script |
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| 00:21.28 | abrotman | d1zzYLuLz: you need the X driver from backports.debian.org, probably kernel too |
| 00:21.32 | ofware | d1zzYLuLz, are the intel modules loaded ? |
| 00:21.55 | d1zzYLuLz | im debian testing too, btw, 6.0.3 netinst is waht iused to instal |
| 00:22.05 | abrotman | oh .. then you wouldn't need backports.debian.org |
| 00:22.09 | abrotman | d1zzYLuLz: how did you install X? |
| 00:22.15 | abrotman | and what is uname -r ? |
| 00:22.17 | addaddrx | which gfx is most supported,secure,open? |
| 00:22.21 | ofware | abrotman, fwiw my sandy bridge here is very happy running kernels 3.2.20 and 3.4.2 ; I needed that sound the intel sound would work as well. |
| 00:22.27 | d1zzYLuLz | http://auriza.site40.net/notes/debian/xfce-minimal-installation-on-squeeze/ |
| 00:22.29 | d1zzYLuLz | those directions |
| 00:22.30 | abrotman | addaddrx: intel |
| 00:22.34 | ofware | abrotman, sorry that was meant for d1zzYLuLz |
| 00:22.41 | abrotman | d1zzYLuLz: you tell me what it says .. i don't want to read it |
| 00:22.43 | d1zzYLuLz | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 00:22.52 | abrotman | d1zzYLuLz: well, that's a poor start |
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| 00:22.52 | addaddrx | abrotman: like 9xx cards? |
| 00:22.55 | abrotman | hardly |
| 00:23.06 | abrotman | d1zzYLuLz: aptitude install xorg linux-image-amd64 .. reboot, see if it's better |
| 00:23.26 | d1zzYLuLz | xorg xfce4 are the only two things w/ x in the apt-get install |
| 00:23.30 | abrotman | d1zzYLuLz: aptitude install xorg linux-image-amd64 .. reboot, see if it's better |
| 00:23.34 | d1zzYLuLz | the rest is alsa, gamin, xdg-utils desktop-base |
| 00:23.36 | TehRabbitt-Work | addaddrx: just figured out I can add it to /etc/network/interfaces using pre-up |
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| 00:23.50 | addaddrx | abrotman: which of intel cards would you use? |
| 00:23.55 | abrotman | the one in my laptop |
| 00:23.59 | abrotman | (s) |
| 00:24.08 | d1zzYLuLz | alright, ill brb...goin to reboot the laptop |
| 00:24.24 | addaddrx | so 915 family, is it? |
| 00:25.03 | abrotman | addaddrx: use what works best for you |
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| 00:27.05 | d1zzYLuLz | is it possible that it says 1024x768 but it is actualy 1366x768 |
| 00:27.21 | abrotman | d1zzYLuLz: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 00:28.12 | d1zzYLuLz | http://pastebin.com/tGhRkULw |
| 00:29.29 | abrotman | that's not testing .. you said you were running testing |
| 00:29.42 | d1zzYLuLz | ..i thought it was.. |
| 00:29.42 | d1zzYLuLz | lol |
| 00:29.51 | abrotman | lololololol |
| 00:29.55 | d1zzYLuLz | =\ |
| 00:30.01 | d1zzYLuLz | i just clicked links from the testing page |
| 00:30.09 | abrotman | dated when? |
| 00:30.13 | d1zzYLuLz | can i upgarde to testing or do i need to reinstall |
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| 00:30.23 | d1zzYLuLz | i dunno, the disc was a kinda old |
| 00:30.31 | d1zzYLuLz | i just know it said debian 6.0.3 netinst on it |
| 00:30.44 | abrotman | does that seem like a "testing" versoin number? |
| 00:30.50 | abrotman | !tell d1zzYLuLz about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 00:32.09 | d1zzYLuLz | i was confused, i thought squeeze == testing adn wheezy = unstable |
| 00:32.26 | abrotman | unstable is always sid |
| 00:32.30 | d1zzYLuLz | ahh okay |
| 00:32.38 | d1zzYLuLz | alright, let me switch this up here to wheezy |
| 00:33.10 | d1zzYLuLz | i usually do the arch linux thing, but i got an internship in an infosec position and everything is designed for backtrack |
| 00:33.20 | d1zzYLuLz | so i dont wanna be changing shit for arch |
| 00:33.24 | abrotman | backtrack is not Debian |
| 00:33.37 | abrotman | they are different distros .. if oyu're using backtrack, you sohuld ask them for support |
| 00:33.59 | abrotman | things we may tell you that would work on Debian might destroy backtrack |
| 00:34.38 | d1zzYLuLz | yeah i know |
| 00:34.48 | d1zzYLuLz | im not tryin to install backtrack as a main OS |
| 00:34.53 | d1zzYLuLz | i'm not going to be using all the tools from backtrack |
| 00:35.25 | d1zzYLuLz | i'm just saying, it being based on ubuntu, i want something similar, minimal, and new...ubuntu isn't minimal and isn't up to date |
| 00:35.48 | abrotman | let me repeat .. if you ask for support for something other than Debian in #debian, you can be banned. That is offtopic in this channel |
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| 00:36.27 | d1zzYLuLz | okay |
| 00:36.34 | d1zzYLuLz | well i was asking for debian support =) |
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| 00:37.25 | Bauer1 | I got issues attempting to install webmin: http://codepad.org/fYku9TUG this is after upgrading from lenny to squeeze. What would you suggest I do? |
| 00:37.57 | beardy | !webmin |
| 00:37.57 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
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| 00:39.15 | scientes | lol |
| 00:39.28 | abrotman | lololololol |
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| 00:39.31 | scientes | yes those debian packages at that site are a piece of shit |
| 00:39.35 | dvs | heh |
| 00:39.43 | scientes | i can personally attest that, I have a friend that swears by webmin |
| 00:40.31 | rbrooks | what distro is webmin for anyway? |
| 00:40.41 | abrotman | any, but it's a PITA |
| 00:41.20 | rbrooks | i like the icons, but nothing worked when i try it |
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| 00:43.25 | scientes | abrotman, hey, its not as bad as cPanel ;) |
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| 00:44.38 | abrotman | scientes: i wouldn't trust your opinion on anything computer related |
| 00:45.06 | craigevil | the wiki page has better choices than webmin |
| 00:45.51 | scientes | craigevil, except that page is REALLY out of date |
| 00:46.38 | craigevil | has a ton of other panels on my giant sources.list, sadly i also have the webmin repo |
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| 00:54.21 | abrotman | scientes: please don't msg me |
| 00:55.09 | d1zzYLuLz | jjjjjj |
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| 01:21.37 | codeKk | Hi all, i have a problem when i try to remove a package called "php5-mysqlnd", E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) i tried with -f and dont fix it |
| 01:21.37 | codeKk | :S |
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| 01:22.11 | stew | codeKk: does it tell you if, for example the postrm or prerm is what is failing? |
| 01:22.18 | stew | codeKk: you should put the whole thing into a pastebin |
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| 01:23.57 | codeKk | stew, http://pastebin.com/fkFi6eDk |
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| 01:25.07 | stew | codeKk: right, apt-listchanges bug, check the bts |
| 01:25.24 | codeKk | what is the bts? |
| 01:25.58 | stew | codeKk: the bugs database that you should know to be checking when you aren't running stable: http://bugs.debian.org/packagename |
| 01:26.14 | codeKk | :o thanks |
| 01:26.15 | stew | codeKk: wait, what version of debian is this? |
| 01:26.23 | codeKk | testing |
| 01:26.29 | codeKk | wheezy |
| 01:26.31 | stew | right |
| 01:26.36 | stew | you have more than one problem though |
| 01:26.43 | codeKk | :( |
| 01:27.07 | stew | anyway, the php problem is that php5-mysqlnd depends on a very specific version of php which is no longer offered by debian |
| 01:27.34 | stew | this php5-mysqlnd must not have come from debian, right? |
| 01:28.03 | stew | well, perhaps it did, but it is old |
| 01:28.08 | codeKk | hmm yes i install it with apt-get and in installation fail, and i want to remove it because i dont need this package atm |
| 01:28.57 | stew | but you can't remove it? |
| 01:29.14 | codeKk | yes i cant |
| 01:29.24 | stew | presumably because of the apt-listchanges bug? |
| 01:29.28 | codeKk | the output i show u is output from apt-get remove -f |
| 01:29.34 | codeKk | yes |
| 01:30.03 | stew | codeKk: did you check the bts? |
| 01:31.07 | stew | "apt-get remove -f" would actually probably try to install php5-mysqlnd, not remove it, btw |
| 01:31.25 | codeKk | stew, i try it too |
| 01:31.28 | codeKk | but same error |
| 01:31.30 | stew | you try what? |
| 01:31.37 | codeKk | install it too |
| 01:31.43 | codeKk | apt-get install -f |
| 01:31.51 | stew | yes, but the installation will not work |
| 01:31.55 | stew | unless you install a newer version |
| 01:32.11 | codeKk | no reports found on bugs.debian.org :S |
| 01:32.12 | stew | I'd expect "apt-get install -f" and "apt-get remove -f" to both do the same thing |
| 01:32.26 | stew | the -f meaning "fix" it will try to install the partially installed package |
| 01:32.39 | stew | have you tried specifically removing this package? |
| 01:32.45 | codeKk | yes |
| 01:32.54 | stew | with what exactly command? |
| 01:32.59 | stew | s/ly// |
| 01:33.21 | codeKk | apt-get install php5-mysqlnd |
| 01:33.22 | codeKk | ?¿ |
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| 01:33.37 | abrotman | ... |
| 01:33.43 | krisfremen | do we have mysql cluster in the repo? |
| 01:33.45 | stew | that is the command you used to try to remove this package? |
| 01:33.53 | codeKk | no |
| 01:33.55 | codeKk | to install it |
| 01:34.00 | stew | 21:32 < stew> have you tried specifically removing this package? |
| 01:34.07 | krisfremen | or any clustered database? |
| 01:34.19 | codeKk | to remove it i try with, apt-get remove php5-mysqlnd, apt-get remove --purge php5-mysqlnd, apt-get -f remove php5-mysqlnd |
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| 01:34.50 | stew | codeKk: if "dpkg -r php5-mysqlnd" doesn't remove it, I'd try getting rid of apt-listchanges first |
| 01:35.14 | stew | codeKk: and if you continue having problems with apt-listchanges, and you don't see a bug filed, please file one |
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| 01:48.06 | Edgan | Where can I find lenny deb files? |
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| 01:48.35 | abrotman | Edgan: archive.debian.org |
| 01:49.27 | Edgan | abrotman: thanks |
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| 01:56.16 | karsten | Is Debian committed in any way to one of the new init replacements? E.g.: upstart, systemd, EdsWildAndCrazyInit? |
| 01:56.35 | karsten | abrotman: I personally hod you directly responsible for my asking this question, BTW. |
| 01:56.37 | abrotman | didn't we just pick a new one ? |
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| 01:56.43 | karsten | s/hod/hold/ |
| 01:56.43 | abrotman | karsten: why? |
| 01:56.51 | abrotman | !insserv |
| 01:56.52 | dpkg | insserv is a dependency-based <init> system that is compatible with <sysvinit> and is the default from squeeze onwards. To use insserv, your init scripts need to have tags at the top of them that describe what they depend on, to permit the correct ordering of the init scripts; ask me about <missing lsb tags>. |
| 01:56.53 | abrotman | not the same ? |
| 01:56.56 | karsten | abrotman: pointing me at runit. |
| 01:57.01 | abrotman | karsten: oh, sorryt |
| 01:57.16 | abrotman | tried upstart once, system didn't boot |
| 01:57.21 | karsten | abrotman: I've been immersing myself in init and process monitoring crap for the past 48 hours. |
| 01:57.38 | karsten | You insserv is one I haddn't run across yet. |
| 01:57.49 | abrotman | karsten: can't you just write a cron job that looks every minute and starts it? :) |
| 01:58.02 | karsten | abrotman: ... and holy fuck, that's almost exactly the solution I was aiming toward myself. |
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| 01:58.13 | abrotman | karsten: sorry, i'll be quiet next time |
| 01:58.39 | karsten | Well, you didn't keep me from gettign my job done, which was wrting a simple process / log monitor service. |
| 01:58.54 | karsten | But I got to thinking about system reliability, which is a good thing to think about. |
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| 02:01.02 | abrotman | karsten: didn't this start two days ago?! |
| 02:01.49 | karsten | Anyhow: my preferred solution after looking at stuff for a while was to think, hey, why don't we leave init mostly alone, tweak the init.d scripts themselves to include a few additional handlers, including dependencies (allowing a dependency graph to be generated and parallel launching used if wanted), as wel as a "verify" and some sort |
| 02:02.10 | abrotman | karsten: but squeeze already uses insserv |
| 02:02.56 | karsten | ... of "onerror" handler which would, say, give a restart mechnaism, and some basic throttling parameters (similar to init's respawn protections), and maybe notification stuff. |
| 02:03.03 | karsten | I need to look at insserv. |
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| 02:03.16 | karsten | Seriously, I didn't know about it until you mentioned it. |
| 02:03.24 | abrotman | karsten: are you using squeeze? |
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| 02:04.15 | karsten | One some boxes, yes. |
| 02:04.18 | karsten | s/one/on/ |
| 02:04.38 | karsten | Hey. It's got insserv installed. |
| 02:04.40 | abrotman | if they were installed as squeeze, they're already using the dependency-based booting for insserv |
| 02:04.45 | karsten | Whaddyaknow?! |
| 02:04.51 | karsten | Yep. |
| 02:06.19 | karsten | OK, so I'm still talking about a few additional bits added on to that, but at least in concept, insserv would be extensible in this regard. |
| 02:06.24 | abrotman | karsten: do i get a cookie? |
| 02:06.38 | karsten | !cookie abrotman |
| 02:06.41 | dpkg | pulls out the cookie jar and finds petition... There is a petition to make abrotman go to debconf here: http://www.petitiononline.com/abrotman/petition.html |
| 02:06.42 | abrotman | oh dear |
| 02:06.56 | karsten | :) |
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| 02:07.10 | abrotman | could have been worse i suppose |
| 02:07.25 | karsten | The fun part was reading the various Systemd flamefests. |
| 02:07.41 | abrotman | i'm sure |
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| 02:08.21 | karsten | https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/V2t57Efkf1s |
| 02:08.40 | karsten | Greg Kroah-Hartman, advocating systemd, Ted T'so running screaming in the opposite direction. |
| 02:08.42 | karlpinc | karsten: You might want to look into systemd as long as you're looking around. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html It uses the kernel to cheat and avoid having to mess with dependences by letting daemons open ports with nothing on the other end. |
| 02:09.15 | karlpinc | karsten: The thread sounds fun. I'll look. |
| 02:10.20 | karlpinc | karsten: Do I have to sign in or something? Perhaps allow flash? |
| 02:10.24 | karsten | karlpinc: I tend to share Ted Tso's opinion of it: it's byzantine, too big, tries to do too much, conflates a ton of binary crap (the whole logging stuff that they want to integrate), etc. |
| 02:10.38 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:10.53 | abrotman | karlpinc: it's a public post |
| 02:11.02 | karsten | karlpinc: If you're not on a mobile device, that link should just work. If youo're on mobile, Google tries to make you sign up for Plus, which really sucks. |
| 02:11.04 | karlpinc | karsten: I can see that. The port idea is kind of neat though. |
| 02:11.18 | karsten | karlpinc: Port?? |
| 02:11.41 | karsten | Oh, right. |
| 02:11.48 | karlpinc | karsten: socket/whatever |
| 02:12.05 | karsten | Yeah, that also makes the system very Linux-specific. Which isn't all bad, but it is limiting for people who admit other OSs may possibly exist. |
| 02:12.13 | robokop | imho systemd has some nice ideas, but Lennart Poettering is a bit 'interesting |
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| 02:12.18 | robokop | ' to work with |
| 02:12.24 | karlpinc | I see the problem. erc is tough on urls. |
| 02:12.37 | karsten | robokop: He makes rapid lying assholes look attractive. |
| 02:12.37 | karlpinc | karsten: Sure. |
| 02:13.06 | karlpinc | karsten: rabid lying murderous assoles, or just rabid lying assholes? |
| 02:13.07 | karsten | Wait, did I just say that out loud? |
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| 02:14.27 | karsten | LWN also has a pretty good, measured discussion: https://lwn.net/Articles/389149/ ... And coverage of the Debian Debates Systemd thread: https://lwn.net/Articles/452865/ |
| 02:14.33 | slanx | where do i go for osx? |
| 02:14.50 | karsten | karlpinc: There's no need to slander the murderous here. |
| 02:14.57 | karsten | slanx: #osx |
| 02:15.01 | abrotman | slanx: #macosx |
| 02:15.03 | karsten | slanx: ... or #macosx |
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| 02:15.28 | scientes | https://www.change.org/petitions/lennart-poettering-continue-writing-useful-programs https://www.change.org/petitions/lennart-poettering-stop-writing-useless-programs-systemd-journal |
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| 02:19.34 | karsten | Hrm. is there a decent insserv overview page? |
| 02:19.54 | abrotman | karsten: /usr/share/doc/insserv/ ? :) |
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| 02:20.10 | karsten | And ironic that this seems to be a SuSE project based on the people working on it, though it predates systemd by a decade. |
| 02:22.23 | scientes | karsten, RHEL even shipped upstart in v6 |
| 02:23.11 | karsten | scientes: Yeah, I seem to recall something like that. Fedora 15 or thereeabouts is supposed to go systemd. |
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| 02:24.55 | karsten | scientes: Heh, i just saw your petition link :) |
| 02:25.19 | scientes | karsten, that is not mine |
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| 02:26.00 | scientes | yes f15 shipped systemd, and since f16 or so, they have been actively delving deep into using it |
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| 02:26.21 | scientes | esp now as they have removed console kit |
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| 02:32.18 | Cyclohexane | how do you tar multiple directories into one archive? but say 1 directory per command... |
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| 02:32.27 | karsten | abrotman: I think I asked, but are you actually using runit, and if so, as a sysinit replacement or enhancement? |
| 02:32.38 | karsten | (assuming those are mutually exclusive alternatives). |
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| 02:33.46 | abrotman | karsten: i am not |
| 02:34.18 | karsten | So you're an instigator and rabble rouser, but not a shaker and mover :) |
| 02:35.03 | abrotman | karsten: i think we're going to use puppet for that .. sort of .. not exactly the same idea |
| 02:36.17 | karsten | We're using chef, but same idea. Part of the problem is that there's so much domain overlap in these areas. |
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| 02:46.43 | karsten | abrotman: Have a good weeekend, I'm outta here. |
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| 02:49.00 | g3brown | Want to setup a software raid5 on squeeze. I'm not going to boot to the raid, just use it for storage. Little confused by the wiki. What tool should I be looking at? dmraid? |
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| 02:50.16 | trysten | cmnky: oh yeah, let's blame the proletariat |
| 02:50.29 | abrotman | karsten: good luck! |
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| 02:52.44 | karsten | Tx. |
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| 02:55.29 | symptom | is fglrx no longer in wheezy? |
| 02:56.16 | abrotman | check packages.debian.org |
| 02:56.25 | sney | symptom, it's waiting for ati to fix an abi compatibility issue. |
| 02:56.43 | symptom | sney, that will probably be a while, no? |
| 02:56.57 | sney | symptom, also, don't ask in multiple channels, it's disrespectful of the helpers |
| 02:57.12 | symptom | sorry |
| 02:57.29 | sney | symptom, it probably will be a while but it's already been a while, so maybe we're close to the end? who knows, though, and ati doesn't say how soon they'll be finished |
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| 02:58.33 | abrotman | looks at sney .. wonders when he got here |
| 02:59.52 | addaddrx | g3brown: dmadm |
| 02:59.57 | addaddrx | mdadm |
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| 03:00.45 | g3brown | addaddrx: is dmraid some subset of that or just a different tool? |
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| 03:02.38 | abrotman | different |
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| 03:03.49 | kamoricks | Hey. Unstable here, kernel 3.2.00-2-686-pae seems to be missing vesafb drivers. Anything to install to get them, or should I just recompile the kernel myself? |
| 03:04.45 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 03:04.46 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.1-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.20-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.19-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.18-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 03:05.00 | kamoricks | That'd be "sid". |
| 03:05.16 | abrotman | yeah, just checking |
| 03:05.58 | abrotman | /lib/modules/3.2.0-2-686-pae$ find . -name *vesa* |
| 03:05.58 | abrotman | ./kernel/drivers/video/uvesafb.ko |
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| 03:06.06 | abrotman | not the same? |
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| 03:07.02 | kamoricks | Exactly the same. Switched from vesafb to uvesafb. Thanks. |
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| 03:12.56 | johndoe_ | Does anyone have a suggestion of what would be the best paid VPN for Debian and Debian based distros? |
| 03:13.19 | johndoe_ | And for debian-live |
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| 03:15.56 | Hydroxide | johndoe_: no idea what you mean by best paid VPN |
| 03:16.05 | sney_ | maybe he means vps |
| 03:16.09 | Hydroxide | possibly |
| 03:16.21 | Hydroxide | but probably not if he mentions debian-live (?) |
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| 03:16.46 | johndoe_ | Hydroxide: Sorry, I meant live distros based on debian. |
| 03:17.08 | Hydroxide | johndoe_: well, debian live exists. it's Debian's live distro. |
| 03:17.38 | Hydroxide | johndoe_: there are various live distro derivatives, with different advantages and disadvantages, but #debian is for user support questions with debian, not its derivatives |
| 03:17.55 | Hydroxide | johndoe_: can you rephrase your question more clearly, maybe? |
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| 03:19.11 | johndoe_ | Hydroxide: I thought I was looking for a VPN (e.g. IPredator), maybe they are called VPS? I am only interested in running Debian Squeeze through it. My other distros are running in a VM. |
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| 03:20.14 | Hydroxide | johndoe_: yeah, VPN and VPS are different things. IPredator looks like a VPN. VPN == Virtual Private Network, for securing / protecting / connecting network traffic between different points |
| 03:20.27 | Hydroxide | IPredator is really more like an anonymizing internet proxy, but that's not relevant to your question |
| 03:21.19 | Hydroxide | a VPS is a Virutal Private Server, which is basically a VM in some provider's datacenter where it's reserved for your use, and you have root and can install stuff, reboot it, etc |
| 03:21.52 | Hydroxide | if you want a VPS, some relatively Debian-friendly options are Linode, Gandi, Bytemark, and Slicehost. |
| 03:22.01 | Hydroxide | there are others and this isn't meant as an endorsement |
| 03:22.54 | Hydroxide | if you want to do smething like IPredator, some people use Tor, but if you want to pay for it, I'm not sure what the current good options are. Anonymizer is well-known but I don't know them |
| 03:23.06 | johndoe_ | Hydroxide: I see. I suppose I meant a VPN. My router is not DD-WRT compatible, so I was looking for something that worked well with Debian, as in the installer and any other software |
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| 03:23.26 | Hydroxide | johndoe_: I'm still not sure what you mean. are you trying to install something on your router? |
| 03:23.31 | johndoe_ | Hydroxide: Thanks for your help |
| 03:23.43 | johndoe_ | Hydroxide: No, I was saying the router was not an option. |
| 03:23.48 | Hydroxide | johndoe_: you should be able to install Debian from behind most routers, whether they're using DD-WRT or not |
| 03:24.09 | Hydroxide | are you trying to set up a Debian box to serve as a router? |
| 03:24.12 | johndoe_ | My concern was installing the VPN software into Debian |
| 03:24.34 | johndoe_ | My Debian OS is not on the router |
| 03:24.38 | johndoe_ | Sorry for the confusion |
| 03:24.44 | Hydroxide | oh, so you're thinking of using a service like IPredator and they have client software that you need to install? |
| 03:24.51 | johndoe_ | Yes. |
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| 03:25.51 | Hydroxide | gotcha. Debian doesn't ship client software for those services, so if you want to know whether it works on Debian, you need to ask them. #debian supports Debian. If you use Tor, Debian does ship the software for that. |
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| 03:26.43 | Hydroxide | IPredator's web page seems to have instructions for setting it up on Debian, and it involves installing a standard PPTP VPN client that Debian ships |
| 03:26.47 | Hydroxide | so try that |
| 03:27.23 | Hydroxide | if you have problems installing the pptp-client package it mentions, we can help with that |
| 03:27.37 | Hydroxide | but if you have issues with accessing their service, contact them |
| 03:27.59 | johndoe_ | Hydroxide: Awesome, thank you. |
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| 03:28.06 | Hydroxide | np |
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| 04:20.09 | linux2 | does anyone know why the fglrx-driver package was removed from the testing distribution. I see that it was removed, but I can't seem to find a reason and it's making my laptop unusable at the moment. |
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| 04:22.26 | linux2 | I'd gladly use the ATI module until fglrx-driver is re-added to testing, but the ATI driver locks up my system for some reason. |
| 04:23.03 | dvs | linux2: because it won't compile with the newer kernel |
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| 04:24.15 | linux2 | ahh good reason. Well I guess that means I'll have to figure out how to get the ATI module to work |
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| 04:24.46 | dvs | linux2: Not too hard. Just have to install the firmware-linux-nonfree package. |
| 04:24.46 | icedtea | does debian stable use the new gnome shell? |
| 04:24.50 | linux2 | The xserver actually starts but all I can see is a cursor, and after a few seconds the cursor moves choppy and that's about all I can get it to do. |
| 04:25.04 | dvs | icedtea: no |
| 04:25.15 | linux2 | dvs, I'll install that package and see if that helps, but I believe it is already installed. |
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| 04:27.03 | Blue1 | linux2: nvidia card? |
| 04:27.19 | dvs | ??? |
| 04:27.58 | Blue1 | i have no idea what I will do when debian goes to gnome 3 |
| 04:28.08 | dvs | KDE! |
| 04:28.14 | Blue1 | suddenly xfce might look good |
| 04:28.37 | Blue1 | kde is just enough alike so I can do things, but just enough different so I cant |
| 04:29.29 | Blue1 | tried kde in latest suse -- not very stable -- like 3.5 was |
| 04:31.28 | linux2 | Blue1, I wish I could switch it out but it's a laptop |
| 04:31.40 | linux2 | so, I have absolutely no idea why the ati module won't work |
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| 04:31.49 | Blue1 | linux2: i run full debian desktop on my netbook - no issues |
| 04:32.00 | linux2 | it just starts X and then the cursor becomes choppy and I can't even switch back to the terminal |
| 04:32.13 | linux2 | I have to hold the power button to turn it off |
| 04:32.22 | linux2 | xorg.log doesn't report any issues |
| 04:32.56 | Blue1 | linux2: i ended up using the xorg.conf file from ubuntu on debian - however it was nvidia card not ati. |
| 04:34.00 | Blue1 | linux2: you can try this http://pkill-9.com/ubuntu-etcx11xorg-conf-livecd-fixes-debian-video-problems/ can't make it any more broke then it already is. |
| 04:34.23 | dvs | linux2: It must be really new. Like a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge. |
| 04:34.24 | linux2 | Blue1, yeah, I 've tried it with and without an xorg.conf file and both have the same results. Although I'm wondering if it has to do with the KDM at this point |
| 04:34.56 | linux2 | dvs, the funny thing is that it is really old. it's a radeon 3xxx series card. It's my friends laptop and I think he bought it in 2008 |
| 04:35.08 | linux2 | trying to get X to be stable on it has been a challenge |
| 04:35.21 | linux2 | it was working until he foolishly decided to update the system tonight |
| 04:35.25 | Blue1 | linux2: that's always an issue |
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| 04:36.53 | linux2 | let me try starting x without the KDM and see what happens |
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| 04:39.22 | n-iCe | Maybe a dumb question, is it possible ot modify a .iso distro ? I mean I have installed a distro but did a lot of modifications, desktop, menu, packages, etc, is there any way to create a whole .iso of my current system? thanks in advice. |
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| 04:41.02 | alkisg | What happens if I have manually created /etc/file and then I install a package which ships it as a conffile? Does it get overwritten or not, or do I get prompted about file changes? |
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| 04:41.43 | craigevil | alkisg, most if not all packages with an updated config file will ask you what you want to do |
| 04:42.10 | homes | n-iCe: fwiw if you're making custom live isos, some of debian-lives tools make it really easy |
| 04:42.12 | alkisg | craigevil: the difference is that it wasn't a conffile before, I didn't have the package installed |
| 04:42.50 | alkisg | I manually created that file, I didn't have older versions of that package |
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| 04:44.31 | craigevil | a newer package version should still ask, |
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| 04:45.12 | mah454 | How can change "ps" STIME format ? (e.g. ps -aux) |
| 04:45.17 | alkisg | Thanks... I'm not sure if debconf does that... hmm let me actually test by uninstalling a package first... |
| 04:45.48 | linux2 | ok, I got it to work, apparently I needed to enable KMS which I had disabled as it made it not work before |
| 04:46.43 | alkisg | craigevil: you're right, I did get a prompt, thanks again |
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| 05:01.25 | gabesubdo | a moment of silence, please, for the 8 year old server I just brought down for the last time |
| 05:02.16 | jordanm | was it still running sarge? |
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| 05:03.18 | gabesubdo | nah, over the years it went from red hat 8.1 to gentoo to etch to squeeze |
| 05:03.57 | swaj | hey all. I'm trying to install mysql-server, but I'm getting a strange error from apt: http://pastie.org/4096133 -- anybody have any ideas how to fix this? |
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| 05:07.43 | jordanm | swaj: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy mysql-server mysql-server-5.1 |
| 05:08.57 | swaj | jordanm: http://pastie.org/4096142 |
| 05:10.14 | jordanm | swaj: do you have any files in etc/apt/preferences.d? |
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| 05:11.20 | swaj | jordanm: yeah, I have a mysql-related file that is making all the mysql packages from dotdeb have -100 pin priority, because I wanted the debian ones, and not the ones from dotdeb |
| 05:11.34 | swaj | I put origin: "packages.dotdeb.org" on all of them |
| 05:11.53 | jordanm | swaj: and dotdeb is not configured on your system, which seems to be confusing apt |
| 05:11.57 | jordanm | !dotdeb |
| 05:11.57 | dpkg | Dotdeb (http://dotdeb.org/) is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack. Dotdeb packages are unsupported in #debian. The packages from backports.debian.org are vastly superior, ask me about <bdo>. To remove Dotdeb packages: "aptitude purge '~Vdotdeb'". |
| 05:12.21 | jordanm | swaj: just rm the file |
| 05:12.52 | swaj | yeah I only wanted dotdeb for the php-fpm stuff -- I didn't see it in backports yet |
| 05:13.04 | jordanm | ,version php-fpm |
| 05:13.05 | judd | No package named 'php-fpm' was found in i386. |
| 05:13.29 | jordanm | ,version php5-fpm |
| 05:13.30 | judd | Package: php5-fpm on i386 -- wheezy: 5.4.4~rc2-1; sid: 5.4.4-1 |
| 05:13.36 | jordanm | !tell swaj about ssb |
| 05:13.44 | jordanm | ,checkbackport php5-fpm |
| 05:13.51 | judd | Backporting package php5-fpm in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, virtual. |
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| 05:45.13 | n-iCe | question, uname -r says, linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 05:45.19 | n-iCe | but the package does not exist anymore |
| 05:45.25 | n-iCe | How do I upgrade to linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 05:45.39 | n-iCe | !bpo |
| 05:45.39 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>. |
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| 05:52.13 | n-iCe | how do I upgrade to linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 if I my uname -r says: 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 05:56.50 | craigevil | you need the same version of linux-headers as your kernel |
| 05:57.01 | n-iCe | but seems does not exist |
| 05:57.14 | n-iCe | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 05:58.09 | craigevil | so you upgrade your kernel to linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 05:58.31 | n-iCe | that's my question :) how to |
| 05:58.31 | n-iCe | :D |
| 05:59.13 | craigevil | the same way you installed the prrevious kernel |
| 05:59.40 | n-iCe | uhm I did not, it was already installed |
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| 06:01.40 | craigevil | apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
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| 06:01.53 | craigevil | the same way you install any other package from backports |
| 06:02.32 | n-iCe | do I need to reboot? |
| 06:02.40 | n-iCe | because they were already isntalled |
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| 06:02.41 | craigevil | to use the new kernel yes |
| 06:02.44 | Jareth3d | sure for boot on the new kernel ;) |
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| 06:05.36 | n-iCe | craigevil: thaaaank yooooou |
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| 07:04.49 | tdn | I have an SSH key pair on which I did not set a password when creating it. Is it possible to set a password for my private key now without having to distribute new public keys? Or do I have to generate a whole new key pair? It is 4096 bit RSA. |
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| 07:38.48 | jagginess | guardian, alot of things are debian specific.. |
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| 07:39.06 | jagginess | guardian, dpkg for example originated from the debian project |
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| 07:39.32 | KeatonT | dpkg needs to hurry up and install build-essential. |
| 07:39.32 | dpkg | KeatonT: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 07:39.33 | KeatonT | lol |
| 07:39.52 | KeatonT | o_O |
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| 07:40.26 | jagginess | tldp.org haha.. that site has gone obsolete even for the rtfm'ers *cough*.. sorry that was harsh.. |
| 07:41.01 | jagginess | loves defoma-- debian specific. |
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| 07:41.30 | jagginess | also loves the debian-specific logo more than any of fedora's. |
| 07:42.09 | homes | tldp is sadly outdated now :( |
| 07:42.28 | homes | is there a good modern linux network document? |
| 07:42.31 | jagginess | homes, that's why distros now use their wikis |
| 07:42.34 | jagginess | !wiki |
| 07:42.42 | homes | networking* |
| 07:42.48 | jagginess | http://wiki.debian.org |
| 07:43.04 | jagginess | google: "networking site:wiki.debian.org" |
| 07:43.53 | jagginess | "apropos network<enter>" also shows related manual pages |
| 07:44.01 | jagginess | eg: "man interfaces<enter>" |
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| 07:46.38 | ntsasng | Hi all |
| 07:46.47 | ntsasng | I have problem |
| 07:47.01 | ntsasng | After install Debian 6 |
| 07:47.17 | format_c | which is? |
| 07:47.22 | ntsasng | In my grub listed two windows 7 loader |
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| 07:47.35 | ntsasng | Now I want delete it |
| 07:47.48 | ntsasng | delete one in it |
| 07:47.51 | ntsasng | :) |
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| 07:50.49 | ntsasng | Can you help me? |
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| 07:51.47 | gnarface | sounds like a windows problem to me |
| 07:53.58 | gnarface | woops |
| 07:54.00 | gnarface | that was rude of me |
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| 08:08.11 | _droid | hi peoplem, how can i remove a user from a certain group? |
| 08:08.55 | jiku | _droid: man gpasswd |
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| 08:09.24 | babilen | _droid: "deluser user group" -- "man 8 deluser" |
| 08:09.43 | _droid | thx ill check that |
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| 08:11.02 | Milka | Hello! Is there a way to power down an ati card without proprietary drivers installed (wheezy)? |
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| 08:12.17 | babilen | Power down? Don't you want to use it? How would this work with fglrx? |
| 08:12.31 | _droid | jiku: i checked the manpage of gpasswd and entered into the commandline "passwd -d user smbuser" it gave me the confirmation that the user is removed from the group but when i want to delete the group i get "groupdel: cannot remove the primary group of user 'user'" |
| 08:12.40 | babilen | _droid: use deluser |
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| 08:13.09 | babilen | _droid: Also: What are you trying to do? You shouldn't remove the primary group of a user. |
| 08:13.33 | jiku | _droid: yes, if group is primary for a user, it won't allow to delete. |
| 08:13.41 | jiku | you will have to delete the user first. |
| 08:13.45 | _droid | babilen: just tried that it tells me that the user user uses this group as a primary group |
| 08:13.46 | Milka | babilen: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Wheezy says there is no fglrx-driver available and i am on a hybrid graphics laptop. |
| 08:14.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 08:15.28 | babilen | Milka: You should ask this in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net as this is a very testing specific problem. That being said: It is absolutely no problem to pull in packages from sid (cf. "/msg dpkg tum") and I would do that. I am not sure how well supported hybrid graphic cards are supported with amd cards, but if nvidia optimus is anything to go by: You probably cannot disable the card |
| 08:16.22 | Worf | i wonder what the current state of hybrid graphics is ... the last time i had such a laptop in my hand, it was paperweight and i had sworn to myself never ever to get near such a thing again. but that was last year, maybe time changed... |
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| 08:16.36 | Milka | babilen: there is only a 13 days old beta package for it at the moment which is said to be crashing on X start that is why i am not pulling it. |
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| 08:17.34 | babilen | Milka: I would check the BIOS as it might be possible to disable it. But please also ask in more specific channels such as #radeon and #ati about ways in which you can use hybrid graphic cards on Linux and if it is possible to use power conservation features. Last time I investigated that issue (1 year ago) I decided that support is abysmal in Linux (due to fundamental Xorg design problems) and that I should *never* buy hybrid graphics. |
| 08:17.41 | _droid | jiku: ok and can I change the primary group of the user? |
| 08:18.01 | Milka | Worf: there are people who got them to work, but since this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671320 you can't use ati's drivers and it makes the switching impossible. |
| 08:18.32 | babilen | Milka: Oh, still that beta package? Ok, in that case I would recommend to stay with radeon for the time being. Ask in #radeon for guidance on hybrid graphics. |
| 08:19.30 | babilen | Worf: My experiences (and conclusion) were similar. I just decided not to buy hybrid graphics and haven't looked into it in detail ever since. |
| 08:19.37 | Milka | babilen: allright, i will try thank you. |
| 08:19.40 | Worf | Milka: i see ... time to renew my "never get near hybrid graphics" resolution. after all, i see no reason to build such things anyway |
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| 08:19.49 | babilen | Milka: Good luck! |
| 08:19.59 | eventide | what is the supposed point of hybrid graphics anyway? |
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| 08:20.41 | Worf | eventide: the point is to avoid building a efficient powerful card in the first place, and hack around by combining a efficient weak with a inefficient powerful |
| 08:20.45 | Milka | eventide: you can get better battery life when you are not using the dedicated card, and still can rely on a stronger GPU when needed |
| 08:20.45 | jiku | _droid: yea you can.. but be careful.. i would say, edit the /etc/passwd file directly with the gid of the new group.. |
| 08:20.47 | _droid | babilen: |
| 08:20.53 | _droid | babilen: ok and can I change the primary group of the user? |
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| 08:21.08 | _droid | scratch that last question babilen |
| 08:21.09 | _droid | srt |
| 08:21.11 | _droid | sry |
| 08:21.12 | jiku | _droid: but be careful that it can break the system atleast some funtionalities |
| 08:21.33 | _droid | ok |
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| 08:21.38 | babilen | eventide: Energy saving when you don't need "the power" of a dedicated GPU for 3D rendering, computation (CUDA ...), ... |
| 08:22.01 | babilen | _droid: What are you trying to do? Don't you want to use user primary groups? |
| 08:22.03 | eventide | 3d rendering...intenstive compution...on a laptop? |
| 08:22.15 | jelly-home | eventide: "games", "video" |
| 08:22.39 | nsadmin | eventide... that was the brand name of a legendary harmonizer |
| 08:22.51 | Worf | but thy managed to bring down idle load power usages of CPUs down to the levels of Intel Adom systems ... why can't they do that with GPUs? |
| 08:23.19 | jelly-home | Worf: a good question for nvidia and amd, ask them! |
| 08:23.33 | babilen | eventide: Sure, why not? I develop locally and test my code before I run it on the compute servers ... And my current laptop is more powerful than *some* servers I have access to. Anyway: That is what came to mind. I also had the impression that a bunch of people play games on their laptops (and therefore need 3D rendering) but not having played games in ages I don't have first person experience. |
| 08:23.43 | jiku | is there way in apt-get to install a local package .deb downloaded? |
| 08:23.57 | jiku | i just want all the dependencies to be resolved automatically by apt |
| 08:24.00 | jiku | is there a way? |
| 08:24.02 | babilen | jiku: What did you download? |
| 08:24.06 | jelly-home | jiku: set up a local repo, /msg dpkg own repo |
| 08:24.10 | jiku | babilen: skype |
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| 08:24.12 | nsadmin | jiku, dpkg --help |
| 08:24.15 | jiku | new verison.. |
| 08:24.33 | nsadmin | careful there |
| 08:24.36 | jiku | nsadmin: hmm. ok.. i should have checked that first. |
| 08:24.38 | babilen | jiku: Just install it with "dpkg -i skype.deb" and run "apt-get -f install" afterwards. |
| 08:25.07 | nsadmin | jiku, not necessarily... I assumed you didn't know about dpkg |
| 08:25.25 | nsadmin | oh, the skype thing |
| 08:26.08 | jiku | nsadmin: i am not seeing a method in dpkg man where local package are installed with repository support for dependency resolution.. |
| 08:26.28 | jiku | nsadmin: yum has that option yum localinstall <packagename> |
| 08:26.35 | nsadmin | jiku, it's there :)_ |
| 08:27.16 | nsadmin | so, dpkg --help is a long listing... you can pipe that to less |
| 08:27.19 | nsadmin | or more |
| 08:27.28 | nsadmin | or pagert |
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| 08:27.48 | babilen | nsadmin: If you know the/a better answer: Just give it. |
| 08:28.03 | jelly-home | nsadmin: if it's there, I sure have not heard about it. Can you point to the exact place in TFM? |
| 08:28.35 | nsadmin | jelly-home, wtf... he wants to install a .deb that he downloaded |
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| 08:28.57 | jelly-home | nsadmin: and make its dependencies resolve automatically using available packages from repos. |
| 08:29.00 | babilen | nsadmin: And I am also not aware of a different method (other than the one I outlined above) to use dpkg to install a package with its dependencies. In fact that wouldn't be supported as dpkg is *not* concerned with dependency resolution at all. (that is apt*;s job) |
| 08:29.17 | babilen | jiku: Please see my comment above |
| 08:29.31 | babilen | jiku: (the "Just install ..." one) |
| 08:30.32 | nsadmin | right, dpkg does not deal with repositories in any way |
| 08:30.33 | craigevil | gdebi or qapt can do that |
| 08:30.40 | aidalgol | I've had to install dependencies for games and skype. My way of handling this is to install the package with dpkg, then use aptitude (in curses mode) to install its dependencies and mark them as automatically installed. |
| 08:30.58 | craigevil | or just do dpkg -i then apt-get -f install to fix the depends |
| 08:31.19 | nsadmin | if the .deb has deps that are not installed, it will actually refuse to install the package |
| 08:31.20 | jiku | craigevil: yea.. that is what i do usually.. |
| 08:31.24 | nsadmin | you would have to force it |
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| 08:31.52 | jiku | craigevil: but it would have been good if there was a direct option in apt-get..i don't know how hard it is, as i have no idea on developement :( |
| 08:31.57 | aidalgol | I also strongly recommend extracting the .deb and manually inspecting it for rogue (or just badly written) post/pre inst/rm scripts. |
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| 08:32.22 | craigevil | Jikan, install gdebi or if you are on testing or sid, qapt |
| 08:32.22 | jelly-home | nsadmin: no, you wouldn't. babilen and craigevil have pointed out the simplest procedure (that usually works) |
| 08:33.24 | nsadmin | jelly-home, I've -never- been able to install a package unless its deps have been installed, since before debian 1.1 |
| 08:33.26 | jelly-home | no dpkg forcing required |
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| 08:33.52 | babilen | nsadmin: dpkg just installs the package and complains about missing dependencies |
| 08:33.58 | babilen | nsadmin: Try it |
| 08:34.24 | craigevil | nsadmin, correct in part, dpkg will fail, then when you run apt-get -f install it will install the package and the needed dependencies |
| 08:34.43 | aidalgol | nsadmin: Yes, no dpkg forcing required. You'll end up with a partially installed (broken, in Debian terms) package. |
| 08:35.06 | nsadmin | because it will try to unpack? |
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| 08:36.10 | babilen | nsadmin: Try it and see. It would also be good to now trying to answer every single question even if you are unsure. |
| 08:36.26 | jvm_ | hi. i have to work with this damn confixx server, and have to leave confixx untouched. i want to create a cronjob, but there is no /etc/crontab?! what now? |
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| 08:37.24 | aidalgol | nsadmin: I'm not sure of the under-the-hood details, but from a user's perspective, all that you need to do to finish the installation is to satisfy the dependencies, so I suppose the package files have been unpacked, but not installed. (I am not a Debian developer.) |
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| 08:38.06 | mikejw | my version of chromium seems to be having problems with it's javascript engine or something.. anyone any ideas? |
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| 08:39.07 | jelly-home | babilen: not* trying? |
| 08:39.35 | nsadmin | aidalgol, packages installed by dpkg have two installation stages, (1) unpack, (2) configure |
| 08:39.54 | aidalgol | OK, so I guess it gets as far as 1. |
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| 08:42.54 | craigevil | mikejw, remove any extensions that might be causing the problem, or try updating chromium |
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| 09:03.25 | mikejw | craigevil, I don't have any extensions installed and chromium is at the latest version |
| 09:03.30 | mikejw | (stable) |
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| 09:10.10 | mikejw | there is a bug report for this here: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=83100 |
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| 09:10.54 | mikejw | weirdness |
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| 09:24.47 | craigevil | runs Chrome, every time i tried Chromium it had issues |
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| 09:29.02 | scientes | craigevil, please file bugs |
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| 09:30.13 | craigevil | likes chrome for the same reason i use firefox they both work, although i have been using qupzilla lately its lightning fast |
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| 09:33.55 | scientes | firefox has caught up with v8's javascript speed |
| 09:34.05 | scientes | when it was released it was much much faster |
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| 09:34.58 | Saintwolf | Hey guys, hopefully you can shed some light on this problem. Whenever I start cron from /etc/init.d/cron, it will die on every 10th minute. However, when I just type "cron" (as root), it keeps running. Any idea why this is happening? |
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| 09:36.15 | drathir | what can be the reason that resolv.conf changed on restart if i edit by hand and dont listen configuration from interfaces file? |
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| 09:39.04 | scientes | Draecos, resolfconf package |
| 09:39.11 | scientes | infamous ** resolvconf |
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| 09:40.40 | mikejw | anyone know where my plugins directory should be if installing firefox manually? |
| 09:40.46 | nsadmin | drathir: you're running a dhcp client? |
| 09:40.52 | scientes | mikejw, ~/.mozilla/plugins |
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| 09:42.55 | mikejw | nope not working |
| 09:43.19 | Nik05 | well somewhere there |
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| 09:43.54 | nsadmin | wrong nick |
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| 09:44.52 | craigevil | mikejw, it will use the plugins that iceweasel uses no need to do anything |
| 09:45.30 | craigevil | just make sure to use a different profile |
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| 09:47.56 | Saintwolf | Any idea anyone? |
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| 09:48.53 | craigevil | drathir, dhclient overwrites resolv.conf |
| 09:49.39 | craigevil | drathir, edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 09:52.41 | metaphysician | mikejw: firefox/plugins directory works for me. i use the upstream tarball (firefox-13.0.1.tar.bz2) |
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| 10:11.27 | chancellorsmith | i try apt-get install iperf and i get E: Couldn't find package iperf .. what to try |
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| 10:13.19 | babilen | dpkg: show sources.list chancellorsmith |
| 10:13.20 | dpkg | chancellorsmith: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
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| 10:14.25 | craigevil | see thats where debian needs inxi, inxi -r lists all sources.list |
| 10:14.25 | craigevil | no weird long command |
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| 10:15.06 | chancellorsmith | http://pastebin.com/iGtxxkQR |
| 10:15.10 | tremon | I'd think that cat /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} would be shorter. Add a 2>/dev/null if you really want to hide the error message |
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| 10:16.46 | craigevil | nice neat list, http://paste.debian.net/174791/ |
| 10:16.59 | tremon | chancellorsmith: are you running debian? |
| 10:17.16 | babilen | chancellorsmith: I don't see a single Debian repository in there. Which distribution is that? |
| 10:17.30 | chancellorsmith | Darwin Apple-TV 11.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 11.0.0: Tue Nov 1 20:33:58 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1878.4.46~1/RELEASE_ARM_S5L8930X AppleTV2,1 arm K66AP Darwin |
| 10:17.38 | chancellorsmith | oh sorry - wrong audience :-) |
| 10:17.48 | metaphysician | craigevil: not much use if inxi itself is a package. :) replace iperf with inxi in the original problem |
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| 10:19.24 | babilen | chancellorsmith: Well, that is not Debian at all. You definitely want to ask in the appropriate channel for your distribution. |
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| 10:23.32 | nsadmin | as he acknowledged on the same screenful where he first posted |
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| 11:23.34 | Saintwolf | Does anyone know why cron will run indefinitely when I type cron, but will be killed on every 10th minute if I run it with "/etc/init.d/cron start"? |
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| 11:24.01 | trysten | Saintwolf: yes |
| 11:25.10 | Saintwolf | trysten: Do tell... It's been frustrating me for a few days now. |
| 11:25.37 | trysten | Saintwolf: well i don't actually know, from the information you gave me. but i'm quite sure someone knows. |
| 11:25.45 | abrotman | ... |
| 11:25.57 | abrotman | Saintwolf: checked your messages/syslog for a possible reason? |
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| 11:27.21 | Saintwolf | abrotman: Nothing gets reported in syslog, messages or cron.log |
| 11:27.30 | Saintwolf | It just silently dies |
| 11:28.04 | abrotman | Saintwolf: is there possibly a cron job that runs at that time that is causing it to croak ? |
| 11:29.10 | Saintwolf | Nope. As I said, when I start it directly using /usr/sbin/cron, it will run just fine, but if I start it with the init.d/cron script it just dies on the 10th minute |
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| 11:29.54 | abrotman | does it actually process cron jobs when you run it directly? |
| 11:30.01 | Saintwolf | Yeah |
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| 11:30.39 | abrotman | time to turn up the log level i guess ? |
| 11:31.20 | Saintwolf | to 7? |
| 11:31.30 | trysten | to 11 |
| 11:32.11 | Innocentus | hi |
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| 11:32.36 | Innocentus | Should I generally enable SSL for all websites, even not all of them got a valid certificate? |
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| 11:33.26 | abrotman | Innocentus: if it doens' thave a valid cert .. would it work ? |
| 11:33.41 | Innocentus | abrotman: the encryption will allways work, only the validation not |
| 11:34.05 | Innocentus | it is sad that users get a shocker message when the certificate cannot be validated - so they won't even use the encryption |
| 11:34.24 | trysten | agreed |
| 11:34.33 | stew | sad? |
| 11:34.40 | stew | its good |
| 11:34.49 | trysten | why |
| 11:34.58 | abrotman | Innocentus: invalid meaning broken? or invalid meaning not signed by a CA ? |
| 11:35.01 | stew | because without that the entire system becomes useless |
| 11:35.03 | Innocentus | not signed |
| 11:35.08 | abrotman | that's not "invalid" |
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| 11:35.14 | Innocentus | right, but the user still get a shocker |
| 11:35.19 | stew | which is good |
| 11:35.22 | Innocentus | why= |
| 11:35.25 | trysten | stew: useless? it's still encrypted.. |
| 11:35.30 | Saintwolf | hmm, how do I set the log level through the init.d script? |
| 11:35.32 | trysten | or it could be |
| 11:35.41 | Innocentus | why can't they separate encryption from certification? |
| 11:35.45 | stew | "we can assure you that you are talking to, uhh, actually i have no idea who you are talking to" |
| 11:35.49 | Bauer1 | I added repo for installing Zend Server CE on my debian Squeeze, but when I follow instructions and try to install, I get the following error: http://codepad.org/CsjxN2cV |
| 11:36.02 | Bauer1 | how to resolve those dependency issues? |
| 11:36.11 | trysten | stew: well it would be good to stave off a false sense of security. other than that? |
| 11:36.18 | Innocentus | however, it is generally recommandable to turn ssl on on all websites or should it better turned of when unneeded? |
| 11:36.35 | abrotman | Saintwolf: should be an options lines, otherwise, just fine the start stanza, append it |
| 11:36.41 | stew | Innocentus: do you have as many ip addresses as websites? |
| 11:36.50 | Innocentus | of course - when someone boughts a certificate (which can be expensive) one also wants show it to everyone |
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| 11:36.52 | stew | or are you hoping that SNI will work? |
| 11:37.01 | trysten | Bauer1: have you tried running apt-get -f install? hahahahahaha |
| 11:37.06 | Innocentus | stew: the vserver got only one :) |
| 11:37.12 | stew | Innocentus: so SNI? |
| 11:37.24 | Bauer1 | trysten: no, usually forcing things would break a lot of other stuff |
| 11:37.25 | abrotman | Bauer1: we need your sources.list |
| 11:37.32 | abrotman | Bauer1: -f is fix, not force |
| 11:37.33 | Innocentus | stew: sni? I guess, this I don't know |
| 11:37.40 | Innocentus | stew: I use confixx |
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| 11:37.52 | Bauer1 | ohh, sec lemme try before I paste the sources.list abrotman |
| 11:37.54 | trysten | Bauer1: then fix the dependencies manually. what happens with apt-get check |
| 11:38.05 | stew | the thing to fix about x509 is not the user experience, its not requiring to pay off the cartels to get certified |
| 11:38.13 | stew | and use stuff like monkeysphere instead |
| 11:38.47 | Innocentus | stew: so I can a free certificate which also validates in browser? |
| 11:39.13 | stew | Innocentus: i don't understand your question |
| 11:39.30 | Innocentus | stew: monkeysphere is an alternative certificate system? |
| 11:39.34 | stew | yes |
| 11:39.39 | stew | one based on WoT |
| 11:40.48 | Innocentus | stew: and the 'normal' browsers will play? |
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| 11:41.01 | stew | Innocentus: no |
| 11:41.14 | Innocentus | stew: so the user gets a shocker |
| 11:41.17 | Bauer1 | thanks abrotman, it is installing zend server now |
| 11:41.32 | stew | Innocentus: only ones running a monkeysphere plugin. and then the only users that would trust your cert would be ones which have a trust path from their gpg key to yours |
| 11:42.00 | abrotman | uhm okay |
| 11:42.23 | Saintwolf | abrotman: OK, I set the log level to 11, but still getting nothing when it dies. |
| 11:42.41 | abrotman | Saintwolf: he was joking about 11 ... |
| 11:43.00 | Saintwolf | *sigh* |
| 11:43.01 | Saintwolf | ok |
| 11:43.07 | abrotman | Saintwolf: sort of |
| 11:43.07 | trysten | is cracking up |
| 11:43.10 | trysten | it goes to 11! |
| 11:43.13 | abrotman | trysten: not amusing |
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| 11:43.40 | trysten | abrotman: it was in |
| 11:43.44 | abrotman | Saintwolf: man 8 cron .. add up the numbers you want, or just make it 14 to make them all |
| 11:43.51 | abrotman | trysten: you just fucked up someone else's work .. are you happy ? |
| 11:44.15 | abrotman | Saintwolf: sorry, 15, not 14 |
| 11:44.24 | abrotman | smacks his broken fingers |
| 11:44.34 | trysten | abrotman: i didn't actually hurt anything. besides, it's good numerical humor. 11 is a funny number. like 42 |
| 11:44.49 | abrotman | trysten: you delayed his work, you don't know what that system does |
| 11:44.59 | abrotman | trysten: try not to be a PITA |
| 11:45.03 | abrotman | we have enough of those around here |
| 11:45.25 | trysten | raises his hand |
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| 11:45.57 | abrotman | trysten: perhaps you'd rather play in #defocus |
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| 11:46.24 | trysten | abrotman: you're right though, i did interrupt. however i wouldn't have if he had indicated any sort of urgency. he mentioned it had been going on for days |
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| 11:46.41 | trysten | you guys are all in my monkeysphere |
| 11:46.45 | abrotman | it doesn't mean it's any less urgent |
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| 11:47.01 | trysten | you win, abrotman |
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| 11:48.09 | trysten | what does the \x2f part do in newroot="${newroot:+${newroot}\\x2f}${s}" |
| 11:49.54 | stew | trysten: its a / character (man ascii, look for 2f) |
| 11:50.23 | stew | and "echo foo\\x2fbar" |
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| 11:51.08 | abrotman | Saintwolf: also, note there is a -f, which is similar to how you run it .. (that won't work if you boot the system with that) .. you could see if that impacts the outcome |
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| 11:52.34 | dokma | what is the best place to ask questions about gdb?? |
| 11:53.04 | Saintwolf | Changing the log level didn't help with the logs. Will do the -f option and let you know in 7 min |
| 11:53.21 | stew | dokma: i'd probably try #gcc first |
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| 11:54.42 | dokma | stew: great... I went to #c++ |
| 11:55.27 | trysten | stew: so i had to do echo -e \\x2f for it to work. the line i got was from a bash script. am i correct in presuming that the escape sequences are implied, and do not need any sort of 'enabling' in bash scripts? |
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| 12:09.09 | Mtl_Harmony | Hello. All my files are around 2M.. To improve performance, I want to use a FS with Block-Size: 2M. It seems that we can't with Ext4 ? :-o |
| 12:09.34 | Saintwolf | abrotman: It still dies after it finishes running my cron job |
| 12:09.42 | abrotman | Saintwolf: a specific cron job ? |
| 12:09.49 | abrotman | Mtl_Harmony: which filesystem has a 2MB block ? |
| 12:10.14 | Saintwolf | I have a cron job that runs every 5 minutes. Even when I get rid of it, it dies on a 10th minute |
| 12:10.41 | Mtl_Harmony | No one. I want to format with a 2M Block :-p Have 4700 Block writes / second... If I have a 2M block, it will be slighty reduced |
| 12:11.10 | abrotman | Mtl_Harmony: which filesystem has a 2MB block ? |
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| 12:11.58 | broomZ | If i want to encrypt the installation partitions with keysize > 256 - where can i find article about this howto? I think i need to encrypt before install somehow? because debian installer only allows the default keysize up to 256bit max |
| 12:12.24 | abrotman | Saintwolf: and there's not something that's running right before it ? |
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| 12:12.32 | Saintwolf | Nope |
| 12:13.20 | D-Boy | how can i find all files that contains a string like 'bmci' no case sensitive (bMci, BMcI....) on / |
| 12:13.28 | abrotman | D-Boy: man grep |
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| 12:13.51 | aeternum_solus | hi. I have a vmware esxi server running some debian guests. one of my servers randomly gets a dhcp address even though it's set to static. have checked and confirmed /etc/network/interfaces is set to static. when it receives a dhcp address, will go back to static if I ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0, but then later on it just randomly gets dhcp address. ideas? |
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| 12:13.59 | D-Boy | abrotman : thx ! |
| 12:14.37 | abrotman | aeternum_solus: is dhcp3-client installed? |
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| 12:14.58 | abrotman | Saintwolf: and if you run it from the script with a -f, it also dies ? |
| 12:15.00 | aeternum_solus | abrotman: no |
| 12:15.20 | abrotman | aeternum_solus: "dpkg -l isc*" |
| 12:15.20 | Mtl_Harmony | No way to have a FS with 2M Cluster ? |
| 12:15.23 | cusco | hey folks |
| 12:15.45 | cusco | there used to be a software that consulted som web site api, to check my music for known possible id tags |
| 12:15.48 | cusco | can't remember the name |
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| 12:15.57 | Saintwolf | abrotman: yes |
| 12:16.03 | abrotman | Mtl_Harmony: go to wikipedia .. look for a filesystem comparison, find one that has 2MB block sizes |
| 12:16.10 | aeternum_solus | oh. I should probably remove isc-dhcp-client ? |
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| 12:16.13 | Mtl_Harmony | Ok i'll check |
| 12:16.20 | abrotman | cusco: musicbrainz maybe ? |
| 12:16.27 | aeternum_solus | and isc-dhcp-common |
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| 12:18.11 | cusco | thanks abrotman |
| 12:18.37 | abrotman | cusco: not 100% sure that's it .. |
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| 12:25.06 | Mtl_Harmony | Maybe I've to use fragment-size ? |
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| 12:26.09 | stew | trysten: i think what you mean to ask is whether that is POSIX compliant. I assume so but don't know for sure |
| 12:26.19 | Mtl_Harmony | Do you think it's risky to disable the journal on a RAID10 System ? |
| 12:26.53 | abrotman | it's your data |
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| 12:27.39 | Mtl_Harmony | Even on a RAID 10, without the journal, you can corrupt everything? |
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| 12:29.42 | tremon | Mtl_Harmony: what journal do you mean? filesystem journal? |
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| 12:29.54 | Mtl_Harmony | yes. |
| 12:29.57 | abrotman | ugh .. why can't there be a usermode +l ... |
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| 12:30.10 | tremon | raid10 does not prevent filesystem corruption |
| 12:30.37 | Mtl_Harmony | I've a RAID10 with 4700 block writes / s. All the files written are between 1M and 4M |
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| 12:30.44 | abrotman | tremon: i think he's trying to get more speed ? |
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| 12:30.45 | tremon | although the likelihood of fs corruption because of sudden power loss is minimized with a battery-backed cache |
| 12:30.48 | Saintwolf | abrotman: It's still not working from the script, even with -f |
| 12:31.05 | Mtl_Harmony | I'm searching : How to reduce the I/O load |
| 12:31.21 | abrotman | Mtl_Harmony: you'd have to describe more about the filesystem? |
| 12:31.29 | abrotman | Mtl_Harmony: also, what's 'uname -r' ? |
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| 12:31.37 | tremon | Mtl_Harmony: metadata journalling shouldn't be that intensive, but instead of asking, how about setting up a proper test sytem? |
| 12:31.46 | Mtl_Harmony | 2.6.32-042stab056.2 (OpenVZ Stable Kernel) |
| 12:31.53 | Mtl_Harmony | Here is my mount options : |
| 12:32.02 | Mtl_Harmony | defaults,noatime,data=writeback,barrier=0,nobh |
| 12:32.06 | Mtl_Harmony | Ext4 RAID10 LVM |
| 12:32.25 | abrotman | Saintwolf: i wonder if you can get some sort of stack trace |
| 12:32.45 | Mtl_Harmony | iostat -> 4770,98 Blk_wrtn/s || 397,90 Blk_read/s |
| 12:32.54 | abrotman | Saintwolf: and there's nothing in /etc/crontab or /var/spool/cron/* that would kill it ? |
| 12:32.58 | Mtl_Harmony | The written files are 1-5M |
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| 12:33.09 | abrotman | Mtl_Harmony: and it's not fast enough ? |
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| 12:33.25 | Saintwolf | abrotman: Nope, and if I run it directly from /usr/sbin/cron, it runs just fine |
| 12:33.40 | Mtl_Harmony | Yep. I've a bit too much I/O Latency. |
| 12:33.54 | abrotman | why did you use LVM ? |
| 12:33.55 | Mtl_Harmony | I thought about removing the LVM ? |
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| 12:34.13 | abrotman | LVM isn't much overhead if really much at all |
| 12:34.24 | abrotman | rephrases his words to be words |
| 12:34.30 | Mtl_Harmony | :-p |
| 12:34.34 | abrotman | Saintwolf: any core or dump files in /tmp/ ? |
| 12:34.40 | tremon | Mtl_Harmony: are you concerned about latency or throughput? Because the two can be incompatible |
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| 12:34.59 | Saintwolf | Nothing in /tmp |
| 12:35.04 | Mtl_Harmony | Hmm. |
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| 12:36.05 | Mtl_Harmony | Good question... |
| 12:36.16 | tremon | yay :) |
| 12:36.50 | Mtl_Harmony | :-p |
| 12:37.05 | broomZ | anyone familiar with cryptsetup dm-crypt luks and how to setup encrypted partitions before installing debian? or some howto tutorial for this? i know debian installer allows LVM encryption, but it only allows keysizes up to 256bit and i need other sizes. any help? |
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| 12:37.52 | Mtl_Harmony | Latency I think. |
| 12:37.57 | abrotman | Saintwolf: ugh .. |
| 12:38.22 | tremon | in general, if you want to minimize write latency you must keep your i/o buffers as small as possible so that writes complete fast, but to optimize throughput you should increase buffersize to make the most use of batched writes and reordering |
| 12:39.16 | Mtl_Harmony | Hmm |
| 12:39.17 | tremon | I'm sure there are more knobs to to fiddle with, have you read about the kernel's VM tuning parameters? |
| 12:39.27 | Mtl_Harmony | Not so muc |
| 12:39.40 | Mtl_Harmony | I'm not used to manipulate FS |
| 12:39.46 | abrotman | Saintwolf: you could run the daemon with strace -o .. but it's going create a tremendous amount of logging |
| 12:39.54 | Mtl_Harmony | The written files are 1-5M files |
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| 12:40.02 | Mtl_Harmony | It's 90% of the usage |
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| 12:42.10 | tremon | Mtl_Harmony: http://www.westnet.com/~gsmith/content/linux-pdflush.htm might help you, but you might want to check in #linux for better info. I think that vm tuning will make more difference than ext4 mount options (you seem to already have the ones I know about) |
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| 12:42.37 | Mtl_Harmony | Thanks your help -) |
| 12:42.38 | Mtl_Harmony | :-) |
| 12:44.47 | abrotman | Saintwolf: did that make sense? |
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| 12:47.00 | trysten | so i've been reading scripts for a while. i'm getting tired of opening many scripts referenced in one script to find out what it is. know of some trick that will simplify reading of 'sourced' script files? perhaps a magic way of expanding . /scripts/functions to the entire file? |
| 12:47.46 | cemotic | trysten: talk sense |
| 12:48.27 | frostschutz | trysten: write a script :P |
| 12:48.45 | trysten | cemotic: sorry, i'm without sleep. in (shell) script files there are 'source' commands. it's the dot followed by a script name. i want to auto expand them |
| 12:48.56 | trysten | frostschutz: that would totally work. good idea. |
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| 12:49.30 | cemotic | trysten: pls don't /msg me, i am just a simple bot, not a humane being |
| 12:50.18 | Mtl_Harmony | And something else... |
| 12:50.43 | tremon | trysten: I tend to use yiW:r^R", but that only works for reading, not if you're editing |
| 12:50.43 | cemotic | { source | . } cmd |
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| 12:50.46 | tremon | ;) |
| 12:50.47 | Mtl_Harmony | SOme days ago, my disk latency multiplied by 2 |
| 12:50.57 | Mtl_Harmony | 200ms in average -> 400ms |
| 12:51.02 | Mtl_Harmony | Nothing changed on the host |
| 12:51.15 | Mtl_Harmony | Any idea :-p ? iotop shows nothing |
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| 12:51.34 | tremon | Mtl_Harmony: is the md array degraded? |
| 12:52.24 | Mtl_Harmony | It doesn't seems to. sas2ircu 0 status shows OPTIMAL |
| 12:52.37 | Saintwolf | abrotman: Here's my stack trace: http://pastie.org/4097649 |
| 12:54.30 | tremon | Mtl_Harmony: it's not a dm (software) raid then. Have you tried benchmarking the raw disk, if it's a problem with the controller or disks then no linux tuning will help you |
| 12:54.43 | Mtl_Harmony | :-p ok |
| 12:55.05 | Mtl_Harmony | <3 tremon thanks again |
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| 12:58.21 | nevyn | Mtl_Harmony: is this local disk? |
| 12:58.51 | Mtl_Harmony | Yep. 6 SAS Disks |
| 12:58.57 | Mtl_Harmony | RAID10 |
| 12:58.59 | Mtl_Harmony | (hard) |
| 12:59.12 | nevyn | hard? |
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| 13:01.01 | Mtl_Harmony | Hardware |
| 13:01.05 | Mtl_Harmony | :-) |
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| 13:01.41 | nevyn | ah.. yeahish |
| 13:01.49 | nevyn | what controller? |
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| 13:02.26 | abrotman | Saintwolf: that looks normal |
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| 13:02.44 | Mtl_Harmony | Symbios Logic SAS2008 PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS-2 [Falcon] (rev 02) |
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| 13:45.08 | gre | hi |
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| 13:46.29 | gre | i have a problem with my intel 82865G graphic controller, anyone know where i could find/install the driver please? |
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| 13:47.54 | abrotman | aptitude install xorg |
| 13:48.23 | gre | ok |
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| 13:50.18 | gre | "no packages will be installed" |
| 13:50.37 | gre | its ok, i already got xorg actually |
| 13:51.02 | gre | but there is a lag when im scrolling |
| 13:51.15 | gre | its isn't installed correctly |
| 13:52.09 | abrotman | it' salso an old card |
| 13:52.24 | gre | yes it is |
| 13:53.26 | gre | but if win xp can use it properly, debian should too |
| 13:54.49 | tremon | gre: you can try installing X and the kernel from backports, Intel has made many improvements to their driver in recent years, some of those optimizations may also apply to the 865 |
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| 13:57.13 | Mtl_Harmony | http://wall.quentin-machu.fr/x31/texte/0/ |
| 13:57.28 | Mtl_Harmony | tremon: The disk latency was back to 200ms. |
| 13:57.36 | Mtl_Harmony | Then this error appears; And OP ! |
| 13:57.40 | Mtl_Harmony | 400ms+ agian |
| 13:58.13 | abrotman | tremon: a card from 2004? |
| 13:58.36 | Mtl_Harmony | LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS2008 PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS-2 [Falcon] (rev 02) |
| 13:59.06 | tremon | abrotman: why not? the radeon driver still receives some improvements for r300 cards too |
| 13:59.19 | abrotman | ok |
| 13:59.32 | tremon | add iirc, the 865 shares its driver with the i915 which a little bit less old |
| 13:59.44 | tremon | needs an "is" |
| 13:59.50 | Mtl_Harmony | ? |
| 14:00.46 | gre | sorry i was reading a forum |
| 14:01.36 | gre | it appears soÃmeone managed to install it correctly by typing : apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel libdrm_intel1 |
| 14:01.46 | tremon | Mtl_Harmony: that sounds like a driver bug |
| 14:01.50 | gre | gonna try it but not sure |
| 14:01.50 | Mtl_Harmony | Arg |
| 14:01.52 | Mtl_Harmony | Ok |
| 14:02.31 | gre | tremon: i'm a newbie, thx for infos but its the first time i hear talking about "backports" |
| 14:02.44 | tremon | !tell gre about bdo |
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| 14:05.54 | trysten | tremon: regarding that string you gave me earlier, i presumed it was a vim command sequence. is it? |
| 14:07.14 | tremon | trysten: yes it was, it assumes the cursor is on an absolute filename without spaces and reads the file into the current buffer |
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| 14:08.04 | tremon | (yank inner word, Ex readfile, paste buffer: yiW :r ^R" ) |
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| 14:08.29 | tremon | trysten: but if you're editing the file, then reading an entire file in the current buffer is not really helpful |
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| 14:08.57 | Loosi | hiho |
| 14:08.57 | tremon | I'm sure you can tweak it to read the file in a new buffer, but I'm not that familiar with using multiple buffers in vim |
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| 14:10.41 | Loosi | maybe someone has an idea: http://pastebin.com/ea5fDHiT |
| 14:11.43 | trysten | wow. thank's tremon, your advice is invaluable. |
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| 14:13.11 | trysten | Loosi: do you need brltty? |
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| 14:14.25 | trysten | Loosi: or, is that what would be running the usb device? |
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| 14:14.49 | Loosi | trysten: never heard about that thing |
| 14:15.04 | Loosi | its a ftdi adapter for my arduino |
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| 14:15.54 | trysten | Loosi: apt-get remove brltty |
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| 14:18.23 | Loosi | trysten: thank you, its working now :) |
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| 14:26.45 | abrotman | that wwas quick |
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| 14:27.02 | trysten | what happened? what is ServerMode? |
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| 14:27.20 | ogitp | Hi guys. |
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| 14:27.23 | ogitp | I'm a first time Debian user here, first time Linux actually. I have some questions about setting up wireless, shoudl be pretty simple. Anyone know anything about Intel wireless n 2230? |
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| 14:27.48 | trysten | ogitp: apt-get install wicd-curses :P |
| 14:28.20 | Mtl_Harmony | What about that ? |
| 14:28.21 | Mtl_Harmony | http://wall.quentin-machu.fr/x33/texte/0/ |
| 14:28.32 | Mtl_Harmony | On two disks of the RAID |
| 14:28.42 | ogitp | trysten: yeah, but the device is simply not being listed in iwconfig |
| 14:28.52 | ogitp | thanks though |
| 14:29.23 | trysten | ogitp: right then. you could pastebin dmesg. or just look for a mention of the device. |
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| 14:30.06 | trysten | ogitp: a common problem with wireless chips is missing firmware. |
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| 14:31.34 | ogitp | trysten: sorry can't pastebin anything - haven't installed X yet. |
| 14:31.45 | abrotman | !pastebinit |
| 14:31.46 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 14:31.54 | abrotman | ogitp: do you have wired internet? |
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| 14:33.05 | ogitp | trysten: any ideas what firmware is missing? I've installed something already as the wiki directed me to. |
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| 14:33.22 | tremon | Mtl_Harmony: that might explain the timeouts, but I'm not familiar with smartctl on sas so can't tell you what the errors mean. But 30k automatic re-reads and then still uncorrected doesn't bode well |
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| 14:33.37 | sney | ogitp, please do not ask the same questions in multiple places, it's rude to the volunteers who spend time helping you. please look at your oftc tab as I have already answered your question |
| 14:33.41 | Mtl_Harmony | :-p |
| 14:33.46 | Mtl_Harmony | Disks are dead ? |
| 14:33.49 | abrotman | ogitp: you need to have internet first |
| 14:33.53 | tremon | or at least dying |
| 14:33.57 | Mtl_Harmony | héhé |
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| 14:34.36 | trysten | sney: what is oftc? |
| 14:34.52 | sney | trysten, another irc network, with the official #debian |
| 14:35.23 | trysten | there are other irc networks? O.O |
| 14:35.42 | Mtl_Harmony | XD |
| 14:35.50 | sney | :P |
| 14:36.06 | ogitp | sney: sorry, didnt know its rude |
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| 14:36.34 | trysten | ogitp: at least be patient and ask serially |
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| 14:42.02 | pi_ | hi. is there a way to do this: connect via ssh to debian that keyboard input is shown on currently active tty |
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| 14:43.19 | trysten | pi_: maybe. but it would be easier to connect to something else, like a screen session. that would be easy to set up. just have your login shell be an immortal screen session. i don't know how to change the tty's though. probably has something to do with getty, whatever that is. |
| 14:44.20 | pi_ | how is this done with screen? |
| 14:44.51 | trysten | you research screen. i'm looking up the getty thing. check the -x option. |
| 14:45.17 | inye | ttysnoop may help with that too: http://chris.ill-logic.com/wiki/ttysnoop |
| 14:46.06 | trysten | pi_: yeah, if ttysnoop can take over a tty, that would be even easier. looks like it does. |
| 14:46.35 | trysten | inye: good one. ttysnoop is way cool. |
| 14:46.56 | pi_ | ok, thanks for your answers. i will try ttysnoop. installs right now. |
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| 15:00.14 | haole | is there a way to use adduser without it asking for user input? i've tried with the information from the manpages but it always asks about the user's full name and stuff... i'm trying to do an automated install and this is an issue |
| 15:00.25 | Mtl_Harmony | useradd ? |
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| 15:02.12 | haole | Mtl_Harmony, but then i have to create the home directory, add to group and all that stuff... i could do it but i thought there were a magic flag do to what i want with adduser |
| 15:02.19 | cemiotic | haole: pres return a couple'a of times and you'r done |
| 15:02.26 | abrotman | haole: useradd has a method to do that |
| 15:02.31 | abrotman | so does adduser |
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| 15:02.58 | Mtl_Harmony | --home HOME_DIR |
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| 15:03.18 | Mtl_Harmony | & mkdir |
| 15:03.25 | pandaubuntu | hi :) |
| 15:03.29 | _stefanos_ | hello everyone. i run updates and the whole process got frozen at linux-headers upgrade process and i had to interrupt it with Ctrl-C; i waited for more than 20 minutes and also checked my processes, only 7% of CPU would get used. is there a way to forcefully re-run the whole process to fix any broken package? |
| 15:03.57 | sney | aptitude -f install |
| 15:03.58 | abrotman | _stefanos_: dpkg --configure -a |
| 15:03.59 | haole | cemiotic, it is an automatic install |
| 15:04.23 | _stefanos_ | abrotman, done it. nothing happened |
| 15:04.30 | haole | abrotman, could you please give an example? i've read the man pages for the adduser program and i couldn't find it |
| 15:04.49 | cemiotic | haole: http://manual.cream.org/index.cgi/adduser.8 |
| 15:04.51 | abrotman | _stefanos_: okay, so everything is configured .. |
| 15:04.57 | _stefanos_ | ok |
| 15:05.12 | abrotman | haole: but really, useradd is more made for this |
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| 15:05.36 | haole | abrotman, okay, gonna read useradd's docs |
| 15:05.43 | pandaubuntu | _stefanos_: what you did is really deangerus, for this, I once had to reinstall debian |
| 15:06.10 | _stefanos_ | pandaubuntu, no worries. i like destroying my system quite a lot :) |
| 15:06.11 | dokma | how can I find out which compile options were used for a package? |
| 15:06.25 | cemiotic | debian is worth the hussle |
| 15:06.27 | pandaubuntu | hahahaha, me too |
| 15:06.50 | nkuttler | !tell dokma about compile options |
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| 15:08.04 | abrotman | !tell dokma about debian/rules |
| 15:08.13 | pandaubuntu | have you any idea how to install the themes for gnome-shell extention (i have activate user themes) but i don't understend how i have to configure it |
| 15:08.15 | abrotman | _stefanos_: okay, so if you try to upgrade again ? |
| 15:08.22 | _stefanos_ | nothing happens |
| 15:08.24 | abrotman | pandaubuntu: in what OS? |
| 15:08.28 | dokma | nkuttler, abrotman: that's exactly what I was looking for. THANKS! |
| 15:08.28 | abrotman | _stefanos_: so what's the problem? |
| 15:08.36 | _stefanos_ | it didn't finish like it should |
| 15:08.36 | pandaubuntu | debian wheezy 64bit |
| 15:08.37 | _stefanos_ | but anyway |
| 15:08.47 | _stefanos_ | it seems that everything went ok |
| 15:08.55 | abrotman | okay |
| 15:09.23 | cemiotic | give sid to the ppl |
| 15:09.30 | abrotman | cemiotic: knock it off |
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| 15:12.18 | dokma | I see CFLAGS = -g $(DEB_OPT_FLAG) |
| 15:12.31 | dokma | should I put CFLAGS = -g -O0 ?? |
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| 15:13.22 | dokma | nkuttler: is CFLAGS = -g -O0 be enough to turn optimizations off? |
| 15:13.40 | abrotman | why would you do that? |
| 15:13.51 | dokma | gdb exibits some weird behaviour |
| 15:14.03 | dokma | so guys in #gdb told me to recompile without opts |
| 15:14.14 | haole | how do i change the console login screen of a Debian system? |
| 15:14.21 | haole | i wanted some nice ascii art for my new cluster :D |
| 15:14.31 | abrotman | ... |
| 15:14.47 | haole | abrotman, useradd did everything i needed... thanks for the tip |
| 15:14.57 | cemiotic | haole: xdm, gdm, kdm? |
| 15:15.05 | haole | cemiotic, no, the console login screen |
| 15:15.09 | haole | cemiotic, no X |
| 15:15.16 | cemiotic | ok, sorry |
| 15:15.33 | cemiotic | maybe tty, pty? |
| 15:15.35 | haole | i know that motd changes the system's "greetings" when a user logs in |
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| 15:16.24 | cemiotic | haole: mess around with getty |
| 15:16.50 | abrotman | really? |
| 15:17.01 | cemiotic | i'm not sure, though |
| 15:17.05 | haole | ok thx |
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| 15:18.00 | cemiotic | haole: lfs for beginners |
| 15:18.48 | cemiotic | for me debian is a tutor |
| 15:19.35 | haole | cemiotic, it was /etc/issue and its brothers (/etc/issue.*) |
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| 15:19.38 | haole | thanks anyway |
| 15:20.01 | cemiotic | haole: np |
| 15:20.05 | pandaubuntu | but why anything answer to my question -.- |
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| 15:20.41 | cemiotic | pandaubuntu: proper english, pls |
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| 15:21.28 | trysten | cemiotic: i knew you were human. you're tricky. |
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| 15:22.10 | cemiotic | trysten: pls, do come is troubled |
| 15:22.17 | cemiotic | is = if |
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| 15:22.33 | cemiotic | in = 0 |
| 15:23.19 | trysten | heheheh. well i have a question for #debian. do you know of some way to quickly get all the targets out of a makefile? i was hoping for something like make --list-targets but that's not a thing |
| 15:24.46 | cemiotic | trysten: read INSTALL and,or README before configure, make |
| 15:25.00 | stew | trysten: make <tab><tab> ? |
| 15:25.33 | abrotman | stew: Services are "back" |
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| 15:26.17 | trysten | stew: u so smrt! thanks, stew. this auto-complete dazzles me once again. |
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| 15:26.37 | stew | yeah services is working! |
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| 15:31.09 | abrotman | frowns |
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| 15:34.08 | lupintheethird | is there anything LMDE would bring to a new person of debian or is it best to spend more time with debian and get it to the point you want |
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| 15:35.40 | trysten | lupintheethird: LM is not Debian, and debian rules! |
| 15:36.26 | lupintheethird | trysten: the ONLY thing i had an issue when i installed debian, is when i manually typed in my network name, it worked and on first boot my internet worked but it wouldn't show me any wireless networks |
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| 15:37.40 | trysten | lupintheethird: well, LM is very different than debian.. but we'd be happy to troubleshoot your wireless if you can't get it working. |
| 15:38.32 | lupintheethird | trysten: im going to reinstall it quick while i go to work today and spend tomorrow sorting out all the little things, lemme ask you this before i install |
| 15:39.00 | lupintheethird | trysten: i use the netinstall, last time i installed it went to command prompt on first boot and i had to manually apt-get install gnome to get a DE, is that just the way debian testing works? |
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| 15:40.18 | trysten | i don't know. i'm not familiar with DEs. but you should have been able to select from like 6 different customizations. from laptop to server to desktop. did you get those options? |
| 15:40.58 | excalibr | Can someone help me with multiple nic issue. I have 2 nic's connected - wired and wireless usb. Both are connected to different routers and are assigned with different ip range/gateway. I can ping them all fine but I can't bind app to use the wireless usb. Any idea what's wrong? |
| 15:41.07 | lupintheethird | yeah i chose laptop and the other two that were automatically selected i think like core and what not |
| 15:42.12 | cemiotic | the same prob |
| 15:42.15 | trysten | lupintheethird: well if you wanted a DE to start, you have to select it there. otherwise it just gives you the standard installation which does not include a DR |
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| 15:42.42 | lupintheethird | trysten: is there a downside to that? i just figured i screwed the install up and something else would be broken but i have no problem just typing in one line to get a DE |
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| 15:43.21 | cemiotic | lupintheethird: why do you need a desktop environment in the first place? |
| 15:43.28 | trysten | lupintheethird: going straight to the 'command prompt' is perfectly normal. |
| 15:43.33 | trysten | cemiotic: oh, you |
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| 15:43.50 | lupintheethird | cemiotic: its a home computer and the only linux experience i have is ubuntu for a couple years |
| 15:44.07 | cemiotic | Xorg, X, and 6 vt's |
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| 15:45.06 | trysten | lupintheethird: if you install a display manager, it will be configured to start X on boot, and give you a graphical password prompt. |
| 15:45.15 | lupintheethird | trysten: awesome im going back to debian the twenty minutes i spent with it were better than the hour ive spent on this lmde crap trying to even get it to work properly |
| 15:45.35 | cemiotic | "X :0 vt7" is the trick |
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| 15:46.05 | d1zzYLuLz | what would be the best way to install virtualbox on debian wheezy? |
| 15:46.12 | cemiotic | and please do background => ... & |
| 15:46.24 | d1zzYLuLz | apt has ose and the backports is only 4.0 (according to the wiki) |
| 15:46.24 | apt | d1zzYLuLz: okay |
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| 15:46.41 | lupintheethird | alright have fun guys my usb drive is ready to install this |
| 15:46.44 | trysten | apt: have you met dpkg? |
| 15:46.52 | trysten | apt: great guy/gal. |
| 15:48.01 | cemiotic | i can't make my box working but i wont stop trying |
| 15:48.19 | cemiotic | vive la DebIan |
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| 15:50.36 | dokma | am I correct in trying export DEB_CXXFLAGS_SET=-g ?? |
| 15:50.57 | dokma | dpkg-buildflags --get CXXFLAGS returns the overriden value |
| 15:51.22 | dokma | but when I try dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b it still uses the old value |
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| 15:52.31 | dokma | pardon me... it did work |
| 15:52.32 | dokma | my bad |
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| 16:14.47 | d1zzY_ | how do i find out which wireless driver i am using? |
| 16:15.00 | WinstonSmith | is there any specific order to the configure options in debian/rules? trying to rebuild xchat without python support |
| 16:15.10 | abrotman | d1zzY_: PCI device? lspci -k |
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| 16:19.20 | metaphysician | lol Oracle asks users to verify their Java download by comparing file sizes. http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml <- i guess they lost all the patents to cryptographic hash functions? |
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| 16:28.54 | mooglenorph | What's the best way to upgrade to emacs24 on squeeze? |
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| 16:29.58 | mooglenorph | (I checked backports) |
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| 16:30.46 | abrotman | judd: versions emacs24 |
| 16:30.48 | judd | No package named 'emacs24' was found in i386. |
| 16:30.53 | abrotman | judd: versions emacs |
| 16:30.54 | judd | Package: emacs on i386 -- lenny: 22.2+2-5; lenny-backports: 23.1+1-4~bpo50+1; sid: 23.2+1-7; squeeze: 23.2+1-7; sid: 23.4+1-3; wheezy: 23.4+1-3 |
| 16:31.11 | abrotman | there's no 24 in Debian at all .. /msg dpkg uupdate .. good luck |
| 16:31.54 | ompaul | judd versions gcc-4.4 |
| 16:31.55 | judd | Package: gcc-4.4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.4.5-8; sid: 4.4.7-1; wheezy: 4.4.7-1 |
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| 16:34.55 | uwjesd | When I enter "swapon /swapfile" as root I get "swapon: /swapfile: swapon failed: Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt" what does this mean and how do I fix it? |
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| 16:35.55 | abrotman | it's german .. |
| 16:36.07 | nyuszika7h | If I set GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768x32 in /etc/default/grub, will that resolution be used for framebuffer when KMS isn't available? |
| 16:36.09 | Andreas1988 | hi what you doing here? |
| 16:36.23 | abrotman | Andreas1988: see www.debian.org |
| 16:36.24 | nyuszika7h | vbeinfo shows that is a supported mode |
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| 16:36.47 | Andreas1988 | im coming from settlers 2 multiplayer^^ |
| 16:37.01 | abrotman | Andreas1988: do you need help with Debian ? |
| 16:37.06 | blackgatocatnegr | Hi, after updating Tor, the old bug of **Vidalia could not open "/home/USER/.vidalia/torrc": Permission denied"** returned, this seems to be a debian specific issue. This time I can't solve it by stoping the tor daemon, even a clean install did not help. Any way to solve this without running Vidalia as root? |
| 16:37.08 | Andreas1988 | is debian a game? |
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| 16:37.28 | nyuszika7h | Andreas1988: No, Debian is a Linux distribution. |
| 16:37.37 | abrotman | Andreas1988: go to www.debian.org, this is not a social channel, this is for support of Debian, an operating system |
| 16:37.37 | nyuszika7h | And Linux is an operating system. |
| 16:37.54 | nyuszika7h | And that means Debian is an operating system, too. |
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| 16:37.59 | blackgatocatnegr | but there are some debian based "gamerz" linux distros |
| 16:37.59 | uwjesd | Andreas1988: At least this is what they say. |
| 16:38.18 | abrotman | nyuszika7h: linux is a kernel |
| 16:38.28 | nyuszika7h | You're right.. |
| 16:38.31 | nyuszika7h | Then GNU/Linux :P |
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| 16:48.11 | nyuszika7h | If I set GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768x32 in /etc/default/grub, will that resolution be used for framebuffer when KMS isn't available or is disabled? |
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| 17:17.32 | nyu | Hi, how can I change resolution of framebuffer terminals if I don't have KMS? |
| 17:17.53 | nyu | GRUB_GFXMODE only changed the resolution of the boot loader |
| 17:18.03 | _stefanos_ | can someone help me to make nautilus again my default file manager? thunar replaced nautilus because of xfce4 and that pissed me off :/ |
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| 17:34.44 | SvenG | hi! anyone know of a way to read out a list of all installed programs and their version numbers? is there are a script for this already? |
| 17:34.56 | SvenG | hints are welcome.. esp per /msg sveng hint.. (they're logged) thanks! :-) |
| 17:35.41 | m_athias | dpkg -l is probably what you are looking for |
| 17:35.42 | dpkg | No packages found matching is probably what you are looking for |
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| 17:45.57 | DexterF | hi |
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| 17:49.43 | Xtreme | hello |
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| 17:49.56 | Xtreme | how to install usb driver of unknown device? |
| 17:50.01 | Xtreme | something lsusb right? |
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| 17:52.36 | DexterF | looking for a qt program that remembers passwords for gpg for a while |
| 17:53.14 | DexterF | Xtreme: if the driver is not loaded automatically there probably is no driver. lsusb will tell you tho the device id |
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| 17:56.36 | dawud | DexterF: there's a pinentry program based on qt, IIRC |
| 17:57.00 | dawud | DexterF: yep: pinentry-qt4 |
| 17:57.05 | DexterF | dawud: rings a bell |
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| 17:58.25 | DexterF | dawud: ah, yes, thanks. now gotta figure why it lost its config... |
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| 18:00.21 | DexterF | gret. everything's in place but still doesnt work. clinging to kde3 is heavy. |
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| 18:09.33 | gueux | hi! I have a little problem with python-pip on unstable... a simple call to "pip" (with or without arguments) gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/cSe4Hd4r |
| 18:09.59 | nyuszika7h | Minecraft is crashing with fglrx - ATI proprietary graphics drivers :( I was wondering if anyone could help me? http://paste.debian.net/174862/ |
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| 18:11.13 | gueux | does someone else have the same issue (python-pip unusable on unstable) |
| 18:11.16 | gueux | ? |
| 18:12.07 | nyuszika7h | gueux: I haven't tried, but you could try installing from testing or stable |
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| 18:12.44 | abrotman | gueux: checked the BTS? |
| 18:12.51 | nyuszika7h | Add it to /etc/apt/sources.list, aptitude update, then aptitude -t testing install python-pip / aptitude -t stable install python-pip # remove it first |
| 18:13.05 | gueux | abrotman: yes |
| 18:13.15 | abrotman | nothing? |
| 18:13.46 | gueux | no :( |
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| 18:14.28 | gueux | nyuszika7h: how do I replace the version installed with an older one? |
| 18:14.51 | nyuszika7h | aptitude remove package |
| 18:14.58 | nyuszika7h | aptitude install -t testing package / aptitude install -t stable package |
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| 18:15.18 | nyuszika7h | Make sure deb entries for testing / stable are in /etc/apt/sources.list, and run aptitude update before trying to install from those if you just added them |
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| 18:16.28 | gueux | is there a way to replace the package without removing all its dependencies? |
| 18:16.52 | gueux | (that's what I was asking :) ) |
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| 18:17.33 | nyuszika7h | Hmm, not really sure, I tried reinstall with -t but it didn't owrk |
| 18:17.34 | obiwahn | you could edit the control file of the old pkg |
| 18:17.35 | nyuszika7h | work* |
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| 18:19.05 | abrotman | -t won't work |
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| 18:24.09 | gueux | hmm... python-pip has the same version on unstable and testing, so I guess my issue comes from another package :( |
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| 18:25.29 | tremon | gueux: you can downgrade a package with apt-get install pkgname=pkgversion, but only for as long as the older version is in the archive |
| 18:25.36 | tremon | !tell gueux about snapshots |
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| 18:26.17 | abrotman | but he doesn't know which to downgrade ? |
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| 18:26.49 | tremon | well, just covering all the bases then :) |
| 18:28.06 | tremon | and python-pip has seen a package upgrade today btw |
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| 18:29.26 | pjc_ | hi |
| 18:29.44 | tremon | (in testing I mean, unstable saw that version 11 days ago) |
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| 18:36.17 | lforlc | Hi, have you got problems updating your apt sources today? Problems with IPV6 addresses... I tried "Update" in Synaptic, but it gave me some "Network unreachable" errors with some ipv6 addresses at the end. I tried enabling ipv6 support in Network Manager but the connection didn't start with both ipv4 and ipv6 enabled :( |
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| 18:39.08 | pjc_ | lforlc: I have noticed bugs in general with ipv6 resolvers |
| 18:39.21 | pjc_ | eventually just end up with v4 resolvers |
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| 18:40.24 | lforlc | pjc_: I've set NetworkManager to "Ignore" ipv6, and "Automatic" to ipv4 (this is how my network has always worked, until today), but Synaptic won't update my sources this way :( That's why I'm asking about ipv6 issues |
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| 18:41.50 | pjc_ | lforlc: is there a v6 dns entry before the others in resolv.conf? |
| 18:41.51 | Dagger2 | lforlc: I've seen apt-get complain about v6 connection failures on v4-only machines when the remote server is down. it tries to connect to v4 first (which fails for whatever reason), then v6 (which fails because you have no v6), then it only reports the last connection failure |
| 18:42.26 | pjc_ | fortunatly I do not use network manager |
| 18:42.40 | Dagger2 | (and using a v6 vs v4 resolver will make no difference, because both of them return the same A and AAAA records) |
| 18:43.04 | Dagger2 | lforlc: can you actually reach the mirror in question with, say, wget? |
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| 18:44.39 | lforlc | Dagger2: thanks for explaination. I can't test it at the moment (I'm on Win7 atm). Anyway I tried ping6 on a ipv6 address, it gave me Not permitted... something like that, I don't remember clearly. |
| 18:44.50 | lforlc | But no, i didn't try wget to those mirrors |
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| 18:53.15 | haole | hello there... i'm having some problems with ssh without password auth on debian... i want to login with the user 'worker' on machine A to the user 'worker' on machine B, so I: 1- created the rsa key for the user 'worker' in machine A; 2- placed it at /home/worker/.ssh/authorized_keys in machine B; 3- chmod 600 /home/worker/.ssh/authorized_keys in machine B; 4- ssh worker@machineB |
| 18:53.15 | haole | however, it still asks for a password... what could i be missing here? |
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| 18:55.56 | nsadmin | haole, this is when you ssh as worker to machine B? |
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| 18:56.45 | nsadmin | and it asks for a password? (not pass phtase)? |
| 18:57.12 | DDemon | The net install iso does not have a driver for my machine, will the DVD-1 have it? (Ubuntu for example has all the drivers needed for my system, but it does not work for me currently) |
| 18:57.15 | stew | haole: in the future "ssh-copy-id user@remotehost" will do the copying of keys for you |
| 18:57.42 | nsadmin | DDemon, what driver? |
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| 18:57.55 | stew | haole: this is almost always a permissions problem. authorized_keys should be chmod 600, .ssh should be 700, none of /home /home/worker can be group writable |
| 18:57.59 | DDemon | That I do not know, it has not mentioned it during install |
| 18:58.11 | DDemon | Is there a way to check what device has no driver? |
| 18:58.34 | stew | haole: if that is all correct, see /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 18:58.39 | haole | nsadmin, yes... ssh worker@B |
| 18:58.57 | peterrooney | DDemon: what error message is the installer giving you? |
| 18:59.12 | nsadmin | DDemon, how do you know there is a missing driver? |
| 18:59.26 | nsadmin | could you be specific about what happens? |
| 18:59.42 | haole | stew, i've got the permissions in the B machine like this: .ssh -> 700, authorized_keys 600 |
| 18:59.58 | haole | stew, gonna check about /home and /home/worker |
| 19:00.12 | stew | haole: they should be owned by the user, too. /home and /home/worker must not be group writable |
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| 19:00.24 | DDemon | It simply stated some hardware on my machine required a non free firmware, if I had it available I had to put the cd in, which I had not, so I pressed skip (I wanted a quick install of debian to check if it ran stable on my system and it does) |
| 19:00.41 | haole | stew, /home and /home/worker are not writable |
| 19:00.54 | stew | the other common mistake is to mispaste and have the key spanning multiple lines instead of all one line |
| 19:01.08 | nsadmin | DDemon, so debian is installed and you like it? |
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| 19:01.29 | DDemon | I like it yes, I used to use it I think 7 years ago |
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| 19:02.01 | nsadmin | DDemon, ok, try: aptitude install linux-firmware-nonfree |
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| 19:02.17 | haole | stew, none of the the details you pointed out are wrong... don't know what could be happening here... everything works nice with root, but i need to login without password with a non-root user (for MPI computing) |
| 19:03.02 | stew | haole: you can try to remove the authorized_keys and copy it with ssh-copy-id, or you should just figure out what the actual error is by starting sshd in debug mode: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
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| 19:03.52 | haole | stew, nice to know that there is a debug mode... gonna try that |
| 19:04.01 | DDemon | could not find package :[ |
| 19:04.04 | obiwahn | i ry to start gnome via startx and if keeps failing |
| 19:04.07 | peterrooney | DDemon: it usually also works to have the linux-firmware-nonfree deb file on a USB stick. see also, /msg dpkg firmware netinst |
| 19:04.19 | obiwahn | it works when started via gdm3 |
| 19:04.24 | peterrooney | ,versions linux-firmware-nonfree |
| 19:04.25 | judd | No package named 'linux-firmware-nonfree' was found in i386. |
| 19:04.45 | peterrooney | whoops |
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| 19:04.59 | peterrooney | ,versions firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 19:05.00 | judd | Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on i386 -- lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.35~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.35; sid/non-free: 0.36 |
| 19:05.01 | nsadmin | ohh, firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 19:05.19 | DDemon | ah, will try that then, thank you xD |
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| 19:06.00 | nsadmin | DDemon, wrong name as peterrooney pointed out... for good measure you could also install firmware-linux-free |
| 19:06.02 | peterrooney | DDemon: you're welcome. I've never tried the unofficial builds |
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| 19:06.42 | nsadmin | hmm, there's a backported one too |
| 19:06.53 | DDemon | Yeah, the nonfree did not work but it suggested the free one, so I tried that |
| 19:07.16 | DDemon | Am I doing something wrong that makes me have to do this seperatly? |
| 19:07.21 | peterrooney | nsadmin: it's almost like people don't want to face tha same problem over and over again. |
| 19:07.36 | peterrooney | DDemon: no, some hardware is decidedly non-free |
| 19:08.29 | DDemon | ok, so by doing aptitude install firmware-linux-free I have fixed this issue? (Sorry for the someone newbie question) |
| 19:08.35 | DDemon | somewhat* |
| 19:09.52 | haole | stew, the debug messages weren't very helpful for me... the last message when the connection fails is this: debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS |
| 19:10.08 | peterrooney | DDemon: well, as long as you don't have the problem I had where the firmware was required for the ethernet port! better would be aptitude install firmware-linux firmware-linux-free firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 19:10.10 | Nightshade_ | I've always wondered what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude? I couldn't find a straight answer on the internet |
| 19:11.09 | haole | Nightshade_, different programs for the same function: package management |
| 19:11.43 | Nightshade_ | So no real big difference? |
| 19:11.53 | peterrooney | dpkg: why aptitude |
| 19:11.53 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. lenny->squeeze). Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
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| 19:12.17 | Nightshade_ | oh thank you lol |
| 19:12.49 | Nightshade_ | Cause I used aptitude for a while on another computer and it caused broken packages |
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| 19:14.22 | peterrooney | Nightshade_: "more advanced" == "more complicated" == "easily broken". Kernighan and Pike wrote, "When in doubt, use brute force - N is usually small." |
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| 19:14.57 | Nightshade_ | Oh yeah makes sense XD |
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| 19:20.00 | DDemon | peterrooney: The unofficial non-free cd, why is it unofficial, and would it be safe to install it? (Has it been made by the debian developers?) |
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| 19:23.12 | pc_magas | Good evening I have a problem with iptables can you help me? |
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| 19:23.50 | peterrooney | DDemon: it's probably because it doesn't conform to DFSG - the debian project is fairly picky about software liberty. |
| 19:23.54 | peterrooney | !ask |
| 19:23.54 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 19:25.51 | pc_magas | I have a vertual server with Debbina squeeze and I made this file according with the wiki: http://pastebin.com/7yi59cNM |
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| 19:25.58 | pc_magas | Debian* |
| 19:26.18 | pc_magas | When I type iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.test.rules |
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| 19:26.24 | pc_magas | I get this error |
| 19:26.34 | pc_magas | iptables-restore: line 2 failed |
| 19:26.57 | pc_magas | Why I get this what happened in the syntax of /etc/iptables.test.rules |
| 19:27.10 | pc_magas | Did I mispelled something? |
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| 19:31.24 | DDemon | Ah I see, So they will not put it up for download publicly, but it would be safe to use, as in, the only difference is that it includes some extra packaged that the normal install does not have? |
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| 19:33.22 | haole | stew, i removed the file and created it again, with the same permissions, and it worked... guess i was not seeing some stupid mistake there |
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| 19:36.07 | nsadmin | pc_magas, try replacing that line with -A output -j ACCEPT |
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| 19:36.45 | haole | what is the preferred tool to add a service to a runlevel in debian? |
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| 19:37.58 | cemiotic | haole: update-rc.d |
| 19:38.17 | OldParr | ¿how do i preview the images when inserting an image from iceweasel ? |
| 19:38.27 | nsadmin | that's been deprecated in favor of insserv |
| 19:38.30 | pc_magas | No not any change |
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| 19:39.13 | nsadmin | try looking at iptables-save |
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| 19:40.19 | nsadmin | or, make your file a shell script and put iptables in front of each uncommented nonblankline |
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| 19:41.12 | pc_magas | did not update the iptables |
| 19:41.47 | nsadmin | ok, start a new file, and copy lines 1 and 2 to it. |
| 19:42.18 | nsadmin | line 2, we'll try: iptables -A output -j ACCEPT |
| 19:42.32 | nsadmin | run that as bash (that file) |
| 19:42.39 | nsadmin | then run iptables -L |
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| 19:47.41 | ChrisH | Bind9 question. Resolving kleinanzeigen.ebay.de on on debian box works and times out on the second. The only visible difference I currently find is the non working is still running Lenny (yes I know) and the other is squeeze. And the ISP is differnet. Any ideas? Both bind are running with -4 (IPv4 only). |
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| 19:49.23 | OldParr | ¿how do i preview the images when inserting an image from iceweasel ? |
| 19:49.58 | nsadmin | pc_magas, did that work? |
| 19:50.49 | pc_magas | seems yes but what is this error? iptables v1.4.8: Couldn't load target `DENY':/lib/xtables/libipt_DENY.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:52.02 | nsadmin | you're using xtables? |
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| 19:54.00 | nsadmin | not sure why DENY is part of xtables... but, you could try installing the xtables extensions |
| 19:54.05 | pc_magas | xtables? |
| 19:54.34 | nsadmin | they're extensions... and I'm not sure why it's even looking there |
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| 19:56.44 | nsadmin | , v netfilter |
| 19:56.45 | judd | No package named 'netfilter' was found in i386. |
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| 19:58.32 | pc_magas | Also where can I find a repo with the latest kernel |
| 19:58.34 | pc_magas | ? |
| 19:58.52 | pc_magas | because 2.6 kernel is a liiiitle too old for me |
| 19:59.03 | nsadmin | does it work? |
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| 20:00.49 | OldParr | ¿ can you increease the size of the previews when inserting pics in iceweasel ? |
| 20:01.15 | alpine-r | using telnet, lol |
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| 20:02.20 | stew | pc_magas: what kernel version do you actually need? |
| 20:02.32 | pc_magas | The latest the better |
| 20:02.35 | pc_magas | for me |
| 20:02.42 | nsadmin | what's not working? |
| 20:02.43 | pc_magas | like 3.2 or 3.4 |
| 20:02.45 | DDemon | were would be a safe place to download the firmware rtl_nic/rt18168e-2.fw ? (I tried the unofficial iso and it still needed that firmware file) |
| 20:03.31 | nsadmin | pc_magas, is there something about the kernel that is not doing its job correctly? |
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| 20:04.31 | iluminator105 | how can i number contents of a file in one swoop from 01 to how many files in the folder? |
| 20:04.32 | rizlah | "Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.10 was released March 10th, 2012. The release included many major changes, described in our press release and the Release Notes." lolwut |
| 20:04.32 | n-iCe | how do I revert this command? usermod -d /etc/skel torro; chown -R torro /etc/skel |
| 20:04.44 | rizlah | Oh, nvm that's 5.0.10, not 5.0 |
| 20:04.49 | iluminator105 | how can i number contents of a folder in one swoop from 01 to how many files in the folder? |
| 20:05.55 | pc_magas | The kernel works fine but I assume that old kernel should have bugs and in the newer versions should have bugfixes |
| 20:06.07 | nsadmin | if you want to swoop, you probably need a loop |
| 20:07.39 | iluminator105 | forget about the swoop just how would i do it |
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| 20:08.13 | pc_magas | BTW How can I add a command or a script to run even before login |
| 20:08.16 | pc_magas | ? |
| 20:08.28 | pc_magas | I corfot the file I should modify |
| 20:08.28 | nsadmin | not understanding exactly what you want... a text file with a listing of files in a dir? |
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| 20:10.06 | nsadmin | pc_magas, for the kernel, look into backports (/msg dpkg bpo); look at /etc/init.d/rc.local |
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| 20:10.22 | pc_magas | Found thanks |
| 20:10.39 | iluminator105 | nsadmin, its audio file for n900 when play it its not in order so i number them because nautilus pulls them in order |
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| 20:11.31 | nsadmin | you want to add numbers to your file names? |
| 20:12.08 | iluminator105 | yea in front of the file name |
| 20:12.23 | iluminator105 | so this way player in n900 knows the order |
| 20:12.33 | nsadmin | do you have the order you want in a text file? |
| 20:13.02 | iluminator105 | no they are just as files too many to pull and order then that way |
| 20:13.05 | nsadmin | (if not... you're looking at running a lot of mv commands) |
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| 20:15.13 | raptor67782 | do you know how to record and send IR signal over a irda device (already irattached with irda , i.e. irattach irda0 -s ) ? |
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| 20:17.38 | nsadmin | iluminator105, if you know the order you want, and that order is either somehow discoverable or in a file somehow, then there's a way to swoop woth a loop... if not, you're looking at some mundane work |
| 20:18.38 | iluminator105 | well hmm... i didnt think of that since nautilus pulls them in order, they have a number but its after filename and player in n900 does not read it |
| 20:19.04 | raptor67782 | iluminator105: you are lucky to have a n900 |
| 20:19.05 | nsadmin | ok, is the number in the filename? |
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| 20:19.25 | raptor67782 | iluminator105: do you have irda infrared on this hardware n900? |
| 20:20.33 | iluminator105 | raptor67782, since the second best phone in the market best one being n9, someone was going going on about their iphone i did a aircrack on them...LOL |
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| 20:21.24 | iluminator105 | nsadmin, yes its is numbered n the name |
| 20:21.32 | raptor67782 | iluminator105: iphone of even Paris has been hacked , I read in the news. we can call you kevin ;) |
| 20:22.06 | nsadmin | show one example of a filename |
| 20:22.40 | iluminator105 | raptor67782, you have a n900? |
| 20:24.30 | raptor67782 | I dream about a linux in my pocket ;) |
| 20:24.34 | raptor67782 | (no ) |
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| 20:27.56 | pjc_ | its good to get rid of arch, back to squeeze on the thinkpad |
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| 20:28.10 | n-iCe | Hello guys, is there any application to make a .iso of my whole linux distro? in order to install it later? or in other computer? thanks |
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| 20:29.34 | pjc_ | n-iCe: different computers = differnet hardware, drivers etc |
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| 20:33.52 | n-iCe | pjc_: : what I really want is to save all my configurations, I downloaded a distro and did a lot of modifications, tint2 config files openbox config files, desktop changes, etc I want to save all that data so I can reinstall it later |
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| 20:41.35 | OldParr | i reading an article about installing firefox in debian it says: ----> deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian import ------------> is this a problem source? |
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| 20:43.24 | iluminator105 | nsadmin, i am getting the name drive over heated one sec |
| 20:43.36 | streuner | OldParr: insane |
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| 20:44.52 | iluminator105 | nsadmin, filename -01 |
| 20:45.56 | rizlah | pjc_: Why drop arch? and why use squeeze when the big freeze is coming later this month? |
| 20:46.04 | nsadmin | iluminator105, can you show an exact filename? when you ls and you see that name, do you see the number? |
| 20:46.09 | nsadmin | need exact text. |
| 20:46.15 | streuner | OldParr: why should someone in Debian using a mint repo to use firecrap... |
| 20:47.02 | OldParr | streuner: because i can not enlarge previews in iceweasel |
| 20:47.56 | streuner | OldParr: well, if you care about Debian you can file a bugreport or if not, just use binaries |
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| 20:48.26 | jagginess | OldParr, what article? |
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| 20:48.51 | jagginess | OldParr, i'd be surprised if it was from the debian wiki |
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| 20:49.48 | iluminator105 | nsadmin, Rio Geog - 01 filename.mp3 |
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| 20:50.56 | nsadmin | iluminator105, ok, show another example |
| 20:51.12 | iluminator105 | nsadmin, Rio Geog - 02 filename.mp3 |
| 20:51.12 | pjc_ | rizlah: just got fed up with it, I am not a fan of pacman |
| 20:51.22 | rizlah | heh |
| 20:51.26 | rizlah | What about the last part? |
| 20:51.31 | nsadmin | nono, a -different- example :) |
| 20:52.22 | OldParr | jagginess: http://superuser.com/questions/322376/how-to-install-real-firefox-on-debian-6 |
| 20:52.53 | iluminator105 | nsadmin, Rio Geog - 02 The Cat of Setting words.mp3 |
| 20:53.21 | nsadmin | ok, you have some common text there, |
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| 20:53.56 | OldParr | streuner: it is not a bug is just a limitation |
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| 20:54.55 | xfire78xx | sera :) |
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| 20:55.23 | nsadmin | don't type !list |
| 20:55.34 | streuner | xfire78xx: buona sera :-) |
| 20:55.49 | xfire78xx | ciao streuner |
| 20:56.06 | streuner | xfire78xx: ciao |
| 20:56.18 | xfire78xx | come andiamo? |
| 20:56.25 | jagginess | OldParr, that's an anonymous q&a site.. there's alot of mistakes on q&a sites.. there's wiki.debian.org/ http://www.debian-administration.org/ which i use as complementary to anonymous sources.. |
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| 20:57.16 | jagginess | OldParr, I tend to use google:"firefox site:debian.org" type of searches (i use "site:" with google) |
| 20:58.35 | streuner | xfire78xx: io sono in Roma mercoledi :-P |
| 20:59.12 | xfire78xx | buon per te, io sto in provincia di Napoli da tutta una vita :D |
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| 21:10.19 | nsadmin | cramo, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3171/what-is-debian-chroot-in-bashrc |
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| 21:17.36 | jair | hello all do you know what is the package that will enable the terminal bell and theme sounds in gnome debian squeeze? |
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| 21:38.46 | raptor67782 | do you know a cp with --progress (really cp modified, the real cp of /usr/bin ) ? |
| 21:39.34 | jelly-home | no, but rsync can be a decent replacement |
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| 21:42.51 | raptor67782 | jelly-home: would need a fork of /bin/cp |
| 21:44.38 | bardzusny | raptor67782: what's wrong with using script/other application/some sneaky alias? |
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| 21:46.28 | jelly-home | bardzusny: huh, how would script help to provide a progress meter |
| 21:46.44 | bardzusny | https://chris-lamb.co.uk/2008/01/24/can-you-get-cp-to-give-a-progress-bar-like-wget/ |
| 21:47.26 | bardzusny | also, apt-get install bar + http://www.theiling.de/projects/bar.html |
| 21:47.53 | jelly-home | oh, you meant a script, not the script tool. |
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| 21:49.50 | bardzusny | :) |
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| 21:54.49 | scientes | bardzusny, that is briggen awesome |
| 21:55.56 | bardzusny | scientes: which one? |
| 21:56.00 | scientes | both |
| 21:56.03 | scientes | ;) |
| 21:56.22 | scientes | bar is nice and simple |
| 21:56.24 | scientes | its just cat |
| 21:56.36 | bardzusny | yes they are, I never had this set up, but bashrc calls for some changes now |
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| 21:58.58 | scientes | bardzusny, the version in the repos is c, not bash |
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| 21:59.33 | bardzusny | scientes: bashrc to set up proper aliases for cp |
| 21:59.40 | bardzusny | so it's transparent |
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| 22:00.08 | scientes | i was talking about bar, not the cp one |
| 22:00.21 | scientes | the cp one is kinda intense with the ptrace |
| 22:00.52 | jelly-home | bar is like pv, only less awesome? |
| 22:01.26 | jelly-home | ,i pv |
| 22:01.27 | judd | Package pv (utils, optional) in squeeze/i386: Shell pipeline element to meter data passing through. Version: 1.1.4-1; Size: 27.5k; Installed: 136k; Homepage: http://www.ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/pv; ITP: #672104 |
| 22:02.31 | OldParr | ¿ jelly-home: is there some way to enlarge the previews images when you are browsing local files for uploading pics with iceweasel ? |
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| 22:02.43 | bardzusny | jelly-home: thanks for that, I'll look |
| 22:03.06 | jelly-home | OldParr: I have no idea. Please ask the whole channel. |
| 22:03.26 | bardzusny | scientes: replacing cp with bar would happen in bashrc too |
| 22:03.26 | bardzusny | if not alias then simple function |
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| 22:04.07 | scientes | jelly-home, oh wow, yeah that is even more awesome |
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| 22:09.43 | DDemon | I am unable to create a file in /etc/init.d/ using sudo, what should I do? |
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| 22:11.11 | jelly-home | DDemon: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:12.39 | DDemon | startup script for teamspeak, I found a way to write to it though using sudo su to root |
| 22:13.41 | jelly-home | DDemon: I mean, what was the exact command you tried to use, and how did it fail |
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| 22:17.12 | bardzusny | guys, try "sudo echo debianftw > /etc/debianftw" |
| 22:17.20 | bardzusny | sudo does these things sometimes |
| 22:20.41 | jelly-home | bardzusny: that one in particular is not a sudo issue, but a shell issue. The current shell prepares redirections and its own permissions apply |
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| 22:21.09 | bardzusny | (ssh, sudo is from ubuntu. it must be it's fault.) |
| 22:21.16 | bardzusny | s/ssh/hush |
| 22:21.18 | jelly-home | wtf |
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| 22:22.31 | jelly-home | well, sudo has existed for a decade or two before ubuntu |
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| 22:24.33 | bardzusny | yes |
| 22:24.44 | bardzusny | it's older than me actually |
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| 22:31.30 | koko_ | hello |
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| 22:32.00 | dvs | you! |
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| 22:32.40 | raptor67782 | does echo "$@" | while read -r _ _ foo ; do echo $foo ; done this can detect and avoid error with sh script.sh -option1 "file name x.bak" "file kd.bak2" hello bye |
| 22:32.43 | raptor67782 | with the " |
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| 22:33.44 | koko_ | what is the best practice on web server for security ? |
| 22:34.11 | karihre | Is this the place to ask mdadm related questions (recovering array), or is there a more specific channel available? |
| 22:34.30 | jelly-home | karihre: there's a #linux-raid channel here on freenode |
| 22:34.40 | karihre | jelly-home: ok, thanks |
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| 22:35.51 | KsM | I'm using xfce, how do I set my language to British English, for when I'm doing spellchecking and such |
| 22:36.25 | KsM | $ set | grep LANG |
| 22:36.26 | KsM | LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 |
| 22:36.26 | KsM | LANGUAGE=en_GB:en |
| 22:39.17 | DDemon | debian does not format ext4 by default? -.- |
| 22:39.42 | blip2 | DDemon: not in squeeze |
| 22:39.51 | blip2 | afaik next stable will |
| 22:40.25 | DDemon | hmmk, abit annoying cause ext3 does not support TRIM, wich is needed for ssd's :[ |
| 22:41.09 | blip2 | it's still supported in squeeze |
| 22:41.13 | blip2 | http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 |
| 22:42.14 | DDemon | yeah, but I'm going to need to convert ext3 to 4 now, I only noticed after completelly configuring the server lol |
| 22:42.22 | bardzusny | I think 2.6.32 that's in stable doesn't support trim |
| 22:42.35 | bardzusny | you may need to get kernel from backports |
| 22:43.37 | bardzusny | yes, it's in 2.6.33 and up |
| 22:43.59 | DDemon | ok, so I wont be needing to change kernel |
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| 22:44.19 | DDemon | oh wait, I will have to I see |
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| 22:44.39 | bardzusny | uname -r |
| 22:44.44 | bardzusny | if it's older than 2.6.33, you must change it |
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| 22:44.48 | DDemon | 2.6.32-5-amd64 is what I'm currently using |
| 22:45.10 | bardzusny | you must upgrade |
| 22:45.12 | DDemon | debian is high maintanance lol |
| 22:45.17 | bardzusny | (not debian, just kernel) |
| 22:45.34 | bardzusny | try unstable sometimes, LOL |
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| 22:49.34 | aristarchus | what is the best way to configure an xpad device? |
| 22:49.43 | aristarchus | (and test) |
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| 22:56.07 | karihre | since #linux-raid is inactive, any advice on how to move on recovering raid6 array where 2 drives failed, having problems starting the array, mdadm output http://pastebin.com/J3WFNgzs , why doesn't the array start with the five working drives? |
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| 22:57.30 | karihre | it should only need 4 to work (it was 6 with parity) |
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| 23:01.38 | frostschutz | karihre: well, for some reason it shows 3 drives as faulty removed |
| 23:01.46 | jelly-home | karihre: sdb4 and sdd4 are outdated |
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| 23:02.04 | jelly-home | karihre: thus you're left with only 3 uptodate members |
| 23:02.37 | karihre | hmm yes, I'm fairly sure these 5 are working though |
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| 23:02.48 | karihre | hmm |
| 23:02.55 | karihre | any advice? |
| 23:03.09 | jelly-home | wait for #linux-raid or ask in their mailing list |
| 23:04.06 | karihre | okay, thanks |
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| 23:05.14 | frostschutz | karihre: you could recreate the array with identical settings, --assume-clean and two missing drives (no redundancy). then check if the data is intact and in that case, readd the missing drives. it's a potentially destructive process though |
| 23:05.24 | DDemon | I want to upgrade to the 3.2 kernet, how would I go about doing this? I can't seem to be able to find a package list for backported kernels |
| 23:05.35 | jelly-home | DDemon: /msg dpkg bdo kernel |
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| 23:06.51 | frostschutz | karihre: or you could assemble it with --force but that also, may be destructive |
| 23:06.53 | Freeuser | Hello I am news in Debian I am using TAILS live usb but I can not install any software appear the message that the programs was not found I see the file configurator but I think tha is ok. by default |
| 23:07.41 | karihre | frostschutz: hmm yes, I was wondering if I should move in that direction |
| 23:08.01 | jelly-home | !tails |
| 23:08.02 | dpkg | Tails (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) is a live DVD/USB <based on Debian>, with the aim of preserving privacy and anonymity. It is not supported in #debian. https://tails.boum.org/ #tails on irc.oftc.net. |
| 23:08.30 | frostschutz | karihre: there's little else you can do. well, apart from using your backups. :) |
| 23:08.53 | Freeuser | Ok. thanks very much |
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| 23:10.01 | frostschutz | karihre: personally I prefer --create with --assume-clean and no redundancy (by starting out with the extra drives missing). that way it doesn't sync. if you force-assemble it and then it starts to sync in the wrong direction, it's pretty much over |
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| 23:10.44 | DDemon | thanks jelly |
| 23:10.51 | karihre | frostschutz: haha, that sounds nice |
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| 23:11.08 | karihre | I can't prevent it from syncing upon assembling? |
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| 23:11.33 | karihre | somehow delay it until I know it was okay |
| 23:11.42 | Freeuser | I was a pleasure dpkg I will be right back |
| 23:11.56 | jelly-home | karihre: you can assemble with "missing" members |
| 23:12.31 | jelly-home | karihre: needless to say, you want to tread VERY carefully |
| 23:12.54 | frostschutz | karihre: I don't know how to force the assembly into read-auto mode. there really ought to be a read only blind assemble mode but alas... |
| 23:12.57 | jelly-home | verify your backups are working |
| 23:12.59 | karihre | jelly-home: needless to say..:) |
| 23:13.16 | karihre | well as always in these cases, the backups are a different issue |
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| 23:14.09 | karihre | frostschutz: okay okay |
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| 23:14.47 | frostschutz | karihre: if you create with assume clean and missing members, you have to be careful to choose the same settings. same metadata version, same drive order, etc. and leaving the redundancy drives out (any 2 missing members for raid 6) is important so there can be no disagreement between any 2 drives which data is "correct" |
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| 23:15.53 | karihre | frostschutz: okay, luckily I saved the building process so I have the exact command |
| 23:16.19 | jelly-home | karihre: you have 3 up-to-date members, one member 9 hours outdated, and one 13 _days_ outdated |
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| 23:16.56 | karihre | but doing --create --assume-clean doesn't do anything harmful? it changes the metadata? can I go into a bad state? |
| 23:16.57 | jelly-home | if you wanted to force an assembly I guess you could use the 3+1 freshest member, |
| 23:17.03 | frostschutz | karihre: double check that command. some standard settings in mdadm change over time, it might pick metadata 1.2 today when it picked 0.90 last year or so |
| 23:17.24 | jelly-home | I don't see why a --create from scratch would be needed |
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| 23:17.48 | frostschutz | oh, can you assemble with missing? |
| 23:18.02 | karihre | jelly-home: I guess inputting the fresheshed drive is the best option |
| 23:18.18 | frostschutz | if you can assemble with missing then do that, then it can't sync and you're good |
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| 23:18.57 | jelly-home | NO WARRANTY |
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| 23:19.09 | frostschutz | naturally |
| 23:19.14 | karihre | of course not, I realize what I'm doing here |
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| 23:19.34 | karihre | I guess most of the data could be recovered, it would take a lot of work though |
| 23:19.40 | jelly-home | personally I wouldn't trust myself with this stuff and would wait for md people in #linux-raid |
| 23:20.20 | karihre | hmm okay okay |
| 23:20.42 | frostschutz | see you next year then |
| 23:22.08 | karihre | it's like that? |
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| 23:32.59 | jpinx | my squeeze crashed (flat battery in laptop) and on recharging and re starting I can not get wicd to connect to my local wan, error failed to get IP address. The wan is ok. I amusing it now from my n900 phone. |
| 23:34.04 | bardzusny | jpinx: does dmesg say anything about wlan? |
| 23:34.08 | jpinx | I have checked wicd settings and rebooted several times without success. |
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| 23:36.23 | jpinx | bardzusny: it says deauthenticating from (mac) by local choice (reason=3) |
| 23:37.41 | jpinx | then ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready |
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| 23:38.12 | jpinx | bardzusny: does that tell you enough? |
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| 23:40.08 | bardzusny | static ip? and other networks don't work either? |
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| 23:41.04 | jpinx | bardzusny: wicd not set for static IP |
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| 23:41.27 | jpinx | bardzusny: no other networks available to me |
| 23:41.40 | bardzusny | jpinx: I would try setting static ip (if you know settings) |
| 23:42.06 | jpinx | bardzusny: where do I find settings for that? |
| 23:42.42 | bardzusny | jpinx: in wicd, settings for the network |
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| 23:43.25 | Cskiboy | my computer is called "debian.hsdn1.tn.comcast.net" is there any way to change it to "Debian"? |
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| 23:43.36 | jpinx | bardzusny: wicd is not giving me any settings in properties for that AP |
| 23:44.09 | bardzusny | Cskiboy: "echo Debian > /etc/hostname", reboot |
| 23:44.11 | nsadmin | as root, can you do iwlist scan |
| 23:44.13 | bardzusny | Cskiboy: you may also need to edit /etc/hosts file |
| 23:45.17 | aber | jpinx, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wicd |
| 23:45.42 | jpinx | nsadmin: it tells me wlan0 is down |
| 23:46.05 | nsadmin | ok, good so far... try ifconfig wlan0 up and try again |
| 23:46.38 | Cskiboy | bardzusny: will removing the comcast.net line change my internet settings at all? |
| 23:46.40 | nsadmin | (except if wicd didn't do this I'm pessimistic) |
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| 23:47.16 | jpinx | nsadmin: ok. lots of settings now |
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| 23:47.37 | nsadmin | do they look like APs |
| 23:47.51 | jpinx | nsadmin: yes |
| 23:48.18 | nsadmin | ok, good... so far we know your hardware works, the driver is installed and working, and the firmware is installed |
| 23:48.19 | jpinx | zESSID's look right |
| 23:48.48 | jpinx | nsadmin: yes. it was working fine before the crash |
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| 23:49.26 | nsadmin | that's all I have... while I do run wicd, I didn't work thru this problem; I'm suspecting something disk-related happened during the crash that altered some config files? |
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| 23:50.01 | jpinx | nsadmin: on trying wicd again it fails and it brings the network down |
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| 23:50.59 | nsadmin | you might want to examine logs in detail, especially in regard to the wireless... but also stay focused on the rest of the process, you're looking for problems that didn't happen before |
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| 23:51.28 | jpinx | nsadmin: ok thanks |
| 23:51.33 | nsadmin | you know this deal, right? I know you've been around for years |
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| 23:55.25 | karihre | jelly-home frostschutz: it looks like a controller failed, two drives which are not responding went missing at the same moment |
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| 23:55.59 | karihre | I think I'll go the expensive way, buy new drives, copy the old ones over bit by bit and then start messing with this |
| 23:56.33 | karihre | and the person I created the server for agreed that it was advisable to have better backup system, so the extra drives will be used for that.. :) |
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| 23:57.03 | peterrooney | karihre: an object lesson that raid is not backup |
| 23:57.49 | karihre | peterrooney: well, this is also what I said when building it, but it was not my decision to not afford it at the time.. |
| 23:58.21 | karihre | but yes, a lesson learned |
| 23:58.57 | peterrooney | I only just discovered rdiff-backup this month |
| 23:59.09 | bardzusny | how did this joke go? "There are two kinds of people: those that make back-ups, and those that will." |
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| 23:59.40 | bardzusny | like everyone, thought he'll never experience hard disk failure |
| 23:59.40 | nsadmin | nonono... there are THREE kinds of people in this world... |
| 23:59.42 | karihre | haha, sounds probable :) |
| 23:59.49 | nsadmin | those who can count... |