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| 00:00.21 | dvs | !qotd43 |
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| 00:00.22 | dpkg | <kingk> Its pretty easy to install Flash, you just dl, unpack, and run the installer. But it doesn't work for me <takatumi> kingk: and yet you say it's easy. |
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| 00:09.37 | simonlnu | i hope kingk has learned how to do that by now |
| 00:09.55 | dvs | me too |
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| 00:12.50 | JenniferB2 | I am at the " select and install software " step on the installation .. but it failes at the end ... saying that step failed |
| 00:12.55 | JenniferB2 | I only had desktop environment checked and standard utilities |
| 00:13.05 | JenniferB2 | Any clues? |
| 00:15.34 | gotmynick | you can jump to tty4 (ctrl+alt+F4) to see some log messages, but it should not fail. |
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| 00:15.57 | gotmynick | ctrl+alt+F1 to return to installation screen |
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| 00:16.42 | gotmynick | if you're doing a network install, many things may fail (network problems, clock problems if you did not use ntp during install...) |
| 00:17.31 | gotmynick | or maybe you're using the alpha installer instead of the stable one, and you have reach some bug |
| 00:17.35 | dvs | disk full? |
| 00:17.39 | gotmynick | too |
| 00:18.24 | dvs | JenniferB2: You can try it without the Desktop Environment checked and install it later. |
| 00:20.46 | gotmynick | anyway you was doing the kernel installation step one hour ago, so I put on this the longer installation award of the year |
| 00:21.35 | dvs | and getting the iso image three hours ago. |
| 00:23.11 | JenniferB2 | "Installation complete" - LETS SEE |
| 00:23.25 | gotmynick | Loading linux ... |
| 00:23.39 | dvs | core dump! |
| 00:23.39 | gotmynick | Loading initrd ... |
| 00:23.46 | gotmynick | hehehe |
| 00:24.30 | gotmynick | I want my money back! |
| 00:24.44 | dvs | I want double back! |
| 00:24.45 | JenniferB2 | well.. i got to grub ... listed them right ... but now I see black screen with some random text |
| 00:24.57 | JenniferB2 | and it is stuck |
| 00:25.02 | JenniferB2 | fuck |
| 00:25.20 | dvs | picture? |
| 00:25.49 | JenniferB2 | is a separate computer ... kmem_cache_alloc ... end trace |
| 00:26.04 | gotmynick | wow |
| 00:26.17 | JenniferB2 | very helpfull right? |
| 00:26.37 | cardamon | Anyone know what sets entries in mimeinfo.cache? something keeps writing gimp.desktop in the application/pdf entry. |
| 00:26.43 | JenniferB2 | i will try the recovery mode as well |
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| 00:28.18 | JenniferB2 | recovery mode seems to work ... however gets my screen to out of range .. so I cant see shit |
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| 00:31.37 | JenniferB2 | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=38761 |
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| 00:32.26 | spacedust | hi |
| 00:32.34 | spacedust | i have a system with an ati 5400 card |
| 00:32.41 | spacedust | is it hard to make it work with debian ? |
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| 00:33.15 | dvs | spacedust: Not with that card |
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| 00:33.42 | spacedust | dvs: it wont work ? :( |
| 00:34.33 | dvs | spacedust: Did you install the firmware-linux-nonfree package? |
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| 00:35.26 | spacedust | dvs: i did not install anything yet, im just looking at options available |
| 00:35.33 | spacedust | and id like to make it work with debian if possible |
| 00:36.12 | dvs | ??? |
| 00:36.42 | spacedust | dvs: well before i even attempt to make it work id like to know if it is even possible or not ? |
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| 00:37.34 | dvs | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450] [1002:68f9] |
| 00:37.37 | dvs | That works for me. |
| 00:38.12 | spacedust | dvs: and do i have to work a lot to make it work ? :) |
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| 00:38.48 | dvs | spacedust: Like I said before, I installed the firmware-linux-nonfree package and it worked. |
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| 00:39.07 | spacedust | dvs: hmm so debian basic install + firmware-linux-nonfree + someDE = works ? |
| 00:39.17 | spacedust | simple as that ? |
| 00:39.24 | dvs | yup |
| 00:39.31 | ung | I use stable and I installed the backports kernel 3.2 to get the usb3 speed. Now, I need to come back to 2.6 and I can live without usb3 but when I boot on 2.6 in grub, I get a black screen when I should see "kdm". I can only boot in 3.2, anyone can help please |
| 00:39.32 | spacedust | hmm sounds too good to be true :P |
| 00:39.57 | spacedust | dvs: tomorrow ill tell you how it worked out |
| 00:40.22 | spacedust | dvs: i guess this is totaly out of debian topic |
| 00:40.29 | spacedust | dvs: i guess this is totaly out of debian topic http://smxi.org/ |
| 00:40.33 | dvs | not really |
| 00:41.02 | spacedust | dvs: cause i was thinking maybe making it work with that |
| 00:41.12 | spacedust | dvs: the thing is i need it to output vga + hdmi |
| 00:41.16 | spacedust | at the same time |
| 00:41.20 | spacedust | and not sure how well that will work |
| 00:41.31 | dvs | I never tried that. |
| 00:41.53 | spacedust | dvs: how do i install firmware-linux-nonfree ? |
| 00:42.01 | spacedust | its just as simple as any other package ? |
| 00:42.05 | dondelelcaro | spacedust: yes. |
| 00:42.06 | spacedust | its a package ? |
| 00:42.08 | spacedust | oh cool |
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| 00:42.45 | dvs | spacedust: It's a non-free package but it is a package. |
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| 00:50.46 | ung | I use stable and I installed the backports kernel 3.2 to get the usb3 speed. Now, I need to come back to 2.6 and I can live without usb3 but when I boot on 2.6 in grub, I get a black screen when I should see "kdm". I can only boot in 3.2, anyone can help please |
| 00:51.35 | kevlarman | ung: which graphics driver are you using? |
| 00:52.12 | ung | kevlarman: fglrx-control fglrx-driver from backports |
| 00:52.26 | dvs | ung: fglrx doesn't work with 3.2 |
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| 00:53.25 | kevlarman | ung: you might need nomodeset on your kernel's command line |
| 00:53.29 | kevlarman | sounds like a kms issue |
| 00:53.35 | ung | ok |
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| 00:54.22 | Wally | how does one remove individual packages from debian? |
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| 00:56.10 | dvs | Wally: aptitude remove <package_name> |
| 00:56.27 | Wally | via the GUI? |
| 00:56.38 | dvs | Wally: Then I use synaptic |
| 00:56.46 | Wally | yeah but it wants to remove a heap of other stuff |
| 00:56.52 | Wally | for example: Gnome games wants to remove gnome |
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| 00:57.12 | engla_ | gnome is a metapackage |
| 00:57.14 | ung | kevlarman: I read about nomodeset but is it only for newer kernel? I mean, my problem is on the 2.6, not the 3.2 |
| 00:57.33 | ung | the "black screen" |
| 00:57.46 | kevlarman | ung: 2.6.what? |
| 00:58.16 | nvz | ung: what kind of video card and are you using X i.e. have a display manager starting when the machine comes on? |
| 00:58.28 | kevlarman | ung: kms has been in the kernel since 2.6.28 |
| 00:58.49 | ung | 2.6.32-6 i think (squeeze) |
| 00:58.56 | ung | 2.6.32-5 |
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| 00:59.37 | ung | nvz: I use ati 7970, and yes, kdm is starting but not on 2.6 (I get a black screen instead of kdm) |
| 00:59.45 | Wally | I have seen a way to remove individual packages.. Someone told me here once |
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| 01:00.34 | nvz | ung: are you able to see the console when you switch to it? are you using fglrx or the radeon driver in the kernel? |
| 01:01.00 | ung | nvz: I currently use fglrx |
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| 01:01.45 | ung | and no, I Just get a black screen, can't even get the error msg :( |
| 01:02.55 | ung | after I installed 3.2 backports, I had to reinstall the graphic driver cause my screen was flashing |
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| 01:03.28 | ung | even if fglrx doesn't work with 3.2, flashing stoped |
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| 01:05.04 | nvz | ung: do you see anything at all, a blank curser or anything? can you still switch to and see a normal console? |
| 01:05.42 | ung | nvz: no I really just see a black screen, no curser and I can't get to terminal |
| 01:06.31 | kevlarman | ung: which is what happens when you mix kms and drivers that don't support kms |
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| 01:07.16 | nvz | ung: this could be applicable.. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=80708#p440494 |
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| 01:07.28 | ung | but I don't understand, the graphic driver doesnt work on 3.2 but everything works in 3.2 |
| 01:07.38 | ung | graphic works in 2.6 and nothing work in 2.6 |
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| 01:09.11 | ung | I use 12.3, they use 12.6 beta |
| 01:09.19 | rtfm | ung: please show me the /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 01:11.42 | ung | http://paste.debian.net/176329/ |
| 01:12.06 | nvz | ung: well that thread indicateds the problem exists across multiple versions and isnt related to any of them |
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| 01:12.28 | nvz | that particular issue is related to a pci library |
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| 01:17.10 | ung | i'm not sure if i want to patch it |
| 01:17.28 | ung | they are all talking about sid and higher xorg |
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| 01:19.50 | ung | but thanks for the link |
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| 01:23.38 | ung | brb, I will try to boot the kernel with the nomodetest option |
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| 01:25.13 | dvs | it's "nomodeset" |
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| 02:07.35 | k-man | i've been trying out the xrdp package to allow me to connect to my debian machine using rdp - when i run a termianl in gnome - up arrow maximizes the terminal window rather than doing taking me to the previous line |
| 02:07.52 | k-man | but on the terminal proper, up arrow works as expected |
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| 02:10.27 | rgenito | eek |
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| 02:20.47 | sistematico | Anyone can help? LMDE 201204 dont reboot. |
| 02:21.04 | sistematico | I can halt, but no reboot. |
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| 02:21.14 | sistematico | Acer Aspire One d257 |
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| 02:22.03 | sistematico | With shutdown -r now i get only a blank screen and nothing happens.. |
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| 02:25.07 | WFPKHC | wonders on in |
| 02:25.26 | WFPKHC | is there a social channel for debian? is so what is the name please? |
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| 02:26.34 | engla_ | I think there is #debian-social on oftc, isn't there? |
| 02:27.27 | WFPKHC | waves hello to engl |
| 02:27.30 | engla_ | ok, no, it's empty |
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| 02:27.38 | reggal | What's a good macro program for Linux |
| 02:27.40 | reggal | for X |
| 02:27.47 | reggal | Any that are really good |
| 02:28.00 | WFPKHC | im looking for a place where i can ask a billion questions about linux but not be a leech or outstay my welcome like in other linux channels |
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| 02:28.30 | engla_ | reggal: what's a macro program? |
| 02:28.51 | klync | recommends m4 |
| 02:29.20 | un214 | darn!! |
| 02:29.32 | un214 | something broke console map |
| 02:29.49 | WFPKHC | sits quietly |
| 02:30.10 | reggal | Many programs allow you to create macros so that you can enter a single character or word to perform a whole series of actions. |
| 02:30.25 | reggal | err, macro programs allow you to create macros so that you can enter a single character or word to perform a whole series of actions. |
| 02:30.48 | reggal | You can also use macros to enter words or phrases that you use frequently. For example, you could define a macro to contain all the keystrokes necessary to begin a letter -- your name, address, and a code that inserts the current date. Then, whenever you write a letter, you just press the macro key to include the letter header. |
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| 02:30.55 | klync | WFPKHC: if your questions are about debian specifically, ask away. there's also #linux and a host of other channels here on freenode; there's even the -social and -offtopic ones |
| 02:31.06 | reggal | thaTs why I'm asking... what's a good macro program |
| 02:31.16 | reggal | What is the name of a good macro program for Debian |
| 02:31.35 | WFPKHC | well thats what people in other linux distrubutions said i should do but then when i asked those billion questions they accused me of being spoonfed - which i wasnt i just have a hard time undertanding |
| 02:32.57 | WFPKHC | i am happy to read documentation but sometimes it just doesnt make sense |
| 02:32.58 | WFPKHC | or doesnt work |
| 02:33.07 | klync | WFPKHC: enough meta for now - if you have a question, ask and let's see if we can get you on the path. if you're making an effort and reading the docs, I, for one, have no problem explaining basic concepts |
| 02:33.42 | reggal | xmacro how do I use that |
| 02:34.27 | klync | reggal: that totally sounds like what you're looking for! :D http://xmacro.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 02:36.03 | WFPKHC | ok i will start asking question - is it true that debian and redhat (fedora centos etc) have been fighting it out for top stop for servers for a long time? |
| 02:36.13 | WFPKHC | (thats from my research) |
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| 02:37.12 | WFPKHC | if that is true - is debian as rock solid as centos? |
| 02:37.21 | klync | WFPKHC: in a sense, but I don't think it's really a competition: each has its own goals, and each does a great job toward their respective ends, so they're the biggest distros. debian and rhel are each also the basis for lots of "daughter" distros, so they're similar in that way |
| 02:37.48 | klync | WFPKHC: imho, debian is more "rock solid", as in stable and reliable and performant, than centos or rhel |
| 02:37.51 | sistematico | WFPKHC: FreeBSD is rock solid =) |
| 02:37.53 | reggal | The big problem with Debian is not receiving enough new versions... it took forever for Debian to introduce Gnome3 |
| 02:38.18 | reggal | Because of this I think Debian is the most insecure OS... what if there was a flaw that affected the whole version and no security update was released |
| 02:38.19 | klync | reggal: that's not a problem with debian, it's just something that some people might not like |
| 02:38.27 | klync | *big* difference |
| 02:38.27 | un214 | freshly killed monster dropping gnome corpse was not safe to eat |
| 02:38.47 | WFPKHC | (please im new so if a question seems noob there is a reason for it) |
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| 02:39.08 | WFPKHC | ^reggal does have a good point there |
| 02:39.20 | engla_ | no, reggal has not |
| 02:39.23 | WFPKHC | k |
| 02:39.26 | klync | reggal: security.debian.org |
| 02:39.59 | klync | adds "security" to his list of what's included in debian's superiority as "rock solid" |
| 02:40.18 | WFPKHC | why do you define it as rock solid klync? |
| 02:40.35 | WFPKHC | i understand that its personal opinion only too |
| 02:40.59 | klync | WFPKHC: i have had rhel machines dump core on me or freeze with known good hardware and only "official" software; never with debian |
| 02:41.32 | WFPKHC | k |
| 02:41.58 | klync | WFPKHC: also, i have maintained boxes through several "dist-upgrades" (even did one today!) with no problem. rhel / centos just breaks upgrade paths sometimes (e.g. 5.x -> 6.0) and says "sorry, deal with it" |
| 02:42.37 | WFPKHC | k |
| 02:42.59 | klync | ... but i'm sure you could find a rhel fanatic to say the inverse if you weren't in #debian atm |
| 02:43.14 | WFPKHC | im sure i would but i got kicked out of there :( |
| 02:43.18 | klync | heh |
| 02:43.30 | klync | that's another thing, but it's more personal, so I won't get into it ... |
| 02:43.36 | klync | gnashes his teeth |
| 02:43.37 | WFPKHC | so the community was good at first but when it came to asking a billion quesetions they called me a help leech or something |
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| 02:44.14 | WFPKHC | the problem on my end is - i dont mind reading the documentation - but i have problems implementing it and "getting the concept" |
| 02:44.19 | klync | WFPKHC: well, this *is* pretty OT, I'm just waiting for someone to ask us to be quiet or get back on topic |
| 02:44.41 | WFPKHC | thats why i asked for the social channel when i entered |
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| 02:44.54 | WFPKHC | but apparently one does not exist |
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| 02:45.28 | WFPKHC | beams out of the room like they do in star trek |
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| 02:49.23 | dewmsolo | has anyone has success configuring microphone input from a creative x-fi soundcard? alsamixer show that the mic volume is way up but applications (skype or mumble) will not register any sound from the mic |
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| 02:52.35 | gnarface | dewmsolo: common first-time alsamixer user's error, i believe; hit TAB to see the recording controls (you're just turning up the mic's echo volume, not its input volume) |
| 02:52.57 | gnarface | dewmsolo: space bar should enable one of the channels i think ( you should see red highlighting text )\ |
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| 02:56.25 | dewmsolo | gnarface, spacebar to enable the channel did part of it thnx. Been googling for the past hour and nowhere was it mentioned. Thanks again! |
| 02:57.15 | dewmsolo | now mumble mixes both input and ouptut though...if i speak or make a sound the input in the heaphones is cyclic lol....keeps coming back forever |
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| 03:11.18 | gnarface | dewmsolo: that's cause you still have the mic volume up on the playback panel... i know its counter-intuitive but you actually want that OFF |
| 03:11.38 | gnarface | dewmsolo: (unless you're using your machine for karaoke or something) |
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| 03:12.59 | dewmsolo | ... |
| 03:14.08 | dewmsolo | mic is all the way down in playback of both pulseaudio and the soundcard according to alsamixer |
| 03:14.19 | gnarface | oh, you're not wearing headphones, are you? |
| 03:14.45 | dewmsolo | yes i am |
| 03:15.04 | gnarface | i don't use pulseaudio so i can't give you any help with that, but you shouldn't be hearing feedback with headphones on if your speakers are off, i don't think |
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| 03:15.48 | gnarface | however mumble should have a configuration tuning wizard that helps you set volume at the right levels to ditch background noise and stuff |
| 03:15.49 | dewmsolo | i don't really care about pulse....it just happens to be there for some reason |
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| 03:24.41 | supaplex | I'm installing wheezy from debootstrap to an external usb stick, and I'm wondering how to tell grub to pick up root=UUID= entries instead of the older root=/dev/sdcX (as it'll be sda or sdb, depending on bios boot order in the destination thinclient) |
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| 03:29.02 | fas3r | Hello |
| 03:29.16 | fas3r | I have a big problem after an upgrade on debian server |
| 03:29.22 | fas3r | this is the pastebin : http://pastebin.com/kFuEQNiF |
| 03:29.32 | fas3r | if somebody have an idea how to fix this :( |
| 03:29.42 | fas3r | it's during apt-get upgrade... |
| 03:31.06 | fas3r | for me it seens that i should reboot on a livecd then mount the system and do the apt-get upgrade without any network connection up... but maybe i missunderstand the erreor.. |
| 03:32.24 | supaplex | I'm guessing since I don't know enough French. It looks like it says error processing initscripts. insserv existing now without changing boot order. |
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| 03:32.44 | fas3r | supaplex: yes it's something like that |
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| 03:32.50 | fas3r | i mean the error |
| 03:34.30 | fas3r | supaplex: what i dont understand is this : insserv: There is a loop between service mountnfs and networking if started |
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| 03:35.20 | ksm | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=651130 |
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| 03:36.34 | dewmsolo | gnarface, no more sound at all now |
| 03:37.23 | fas3r | ksm: thank i guess i understand |
| 03:37.38 | fas3r | i should downgrade for these packages in errors .. |
| 03:37.43 | fas3r | if i understand |
| 03:37.48 | fas3r | thank you :) |
| 03:38.16 | dewmsolo | i do believe it is from poorly setting pavucontrol though |
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| 03:39.29 | supaplex | fas3r: I might understand the messages better, maybe unset LANGUAGE LC_ALL LANG |
| 03:40.20 | fas3r | supaplex: in progress |
| 03:40.48 | fas3r | supaplex: http://pastebin.com/dTcz16ZL |
| 03:40.59 | fas3r | (and thanks for your help all) |
| 03:43.23 | supaplex | fas3r: ahh, looks like insserv cannot determine a startup order to keep all the services happy. |
| 03:44.02 | supaplex | the insserv package says it uses relative ordering when services want to run, so dependencies can be calculated. |
| 03:44.25 | fas3r | ho ... ok |
| 03:44.37 | fas3r | so it's because of the installation of the new kernel ? |
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| 03:44.50 | fas3r | if i understand.. |
| 03:46.32 | supaplex | stuff in /etc/rcS.d/ links to /etc/init.d/. some services might need others before they should run. it's complaining about a detected loop. a wants b to start first, b wants c to start first, and c wants a to start first. |
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| 03:47.25 | trysten | why is dpkg so much nicer than judd? |
| 03:50.40 | fas3r | supaplex: I guess it's because of my firewall |
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| 03:55.25 | trysten | is there a good userspace 'ecrypted vault' technology? |
| 03:56.36 | gnarface | trysten: you mean like encfs? |
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| 04:00.41 | fas3r | supaplex: it was that :) thank you for your help :) |
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| 04:00.55 | fas3r | supaplex: everything is back to normal. Thanks again |
| 04:01.22 | fas3r | supaplex: so it means that i put my firewall in the wrong runlevel |
| 04:01.29 | fas3r | i will check this thank again |
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| 04:02.43 | trysten | gnarface: woah that's pretty neat. i like that alot. |
| 04:03.02 | trysten | gnarface: i was wondering though, can you think of how to decrypt a single file, manually, should the need arise? |
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| 04:17.16 | craigevil | ccrypt |
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| 04:24.16 | trysten | ccrypt is cool, but gpg -c seems like it can do the same thing as ccrypt. EncFS is *very* cool |
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| 04:52.15 | ectospasm | is EncFS different from ecryptfs? |
| 04:52.28 | ectospasm | I use ecryptfs like a champ |
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| 05:12.13 | pinkus | where would i check to wait for wheezy to freeze? debian.org? |
| 05:12.28 | karlpinc | ectospasm: ecryptfs is in-kernel encfs is fuse, so userspace. |
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| 05:37.58 | demonax | Hello, encfs is not working in squeeze. fuse failed to open /permission denied. |
| 05:38.00 | demonax | I checked the installed packages; I am listed in the group: fuse. Also, "modprobe fuse" was executed by root. |
| 05:38.02 | demonax | Please see #flood for details. |
| 05:38.04 | demonax | Any insight would be appreciated. |
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| 05:40.31 | ectospasm | demonax: is fuse listed when you issue the groups command? |
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| 05:42.20 | demonax | ectospasm: yes it is |
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| 05:46.01 | demonax | ectospasm: correction it is not under demonax. |
| 05:47.34 | ectospasm | if demonax is the user you're trying to use with encfs, then when you run "groups" the fuse group needs to be listed. Either log out or run "newgrp - fuse" |
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| 05:52.55 | ectospasm | demonax: if you just "adduser demonax fuse" it doesn't add the group for any current session, you'll have to log out and login again, or run "newgrp - fuse" from a demonax shell. |
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| 06:02.57 | paranoidphreak | hi everybody, i'm running squeeze and i'm unable to play a video that is in mkv format. how do i get this to work? |
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| 06:06.38 | craigevil | install vlc |
| 06:07.05 | paranoidphreak | craigevil: vlc is installed and still wouldn't play |
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| 06:16.20 | urlwolf | what is ubuntu doing different than other distros in terms of font rendering? I copied the kde settings panel for fonts 1:1, my fonts still look worse? |
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| 06:19.36 | craigevil | urlwolf, google there are a million threads in various forums, feel free to search forums.debian.net |
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| 06:20.26 | craigevil | personally i have never noticed any difference, or the so called bad fonts on debian in the 8 yrs i have been using it |
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| 06:25.05 | nmistry | can someone point me in the right direction for ipv6 client autoconfiguration on debian? |
| 06:25.27 | nmistry | debian squeeze to be exact. |
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| 06:26.38 | Dagger2 | if you're using SLAAC, you don't need to do anything |
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| 06:27.13 | Dagger2 | DHCPv6 I'm not so sure about... I know dhclient won't work with the provided config scripts in squeeze |
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| 06:28.34 | MO_Handes | all changed all squeeze phrases to wheezy in my sources.list and did a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade but after 300mb of downloads and installs /etc/debian_version shows 6.0.5 and there's no change in look and applications |
| 06:28.47 | MO_Handes | s/all/I |
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| 06:29.03 | nmistry | Dagger2, im not using SLAAC, im trying to create a private network behind 6to4 |
| 06:29.19 | nmistry | i want to dish out address on a specific /64 network |
| 06:29.51 | craigevil | MO_Handes, apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 06:32.05 | Dagger2 | nmistry: sounds like you want to be using SLAAC then, unless you need to have the ability to centrally assign specific IPs to particular hosts (in which case you need DHCPv6) |
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| 06:33.10 | nmistry | can SLAAC be used behind 6to4 2002:####:####: addresses? |
| 06:33.11 | Dagger2 | if it's the server side you were asking about, you need radvd installed... and if you want to do DHCPv6, then you additionally need isc-dhcp-server |
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| 06:33.31 | Dagger2 | yes |
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| 06:36.12 | nmistry | thanks Dagger2 , reading up on radvd now… one last question if i may? what needs to be put in the /etc/network/interfaces file for eth0 autoconf and dhcp are not accepted for inet6 |
| 06:37.42 | Dagger2 | for SLAAC, nothing. it just works once the interface is brought up, so the inet block is enough |
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| 06:39.08 | Dagger2 | if you want to bring the interface up with no v4 at all, then you need to do a bit of a silly dance with "iface eth0 inet6 static" and "up ip link set $IFACE up" |
| 06:39.48 | nmistry | interesting |
| 06:40.42 | Jakenl | man interfaces should explain the stanzas. |
| 06:40.52 | nmistry | thanks Jakenl |
| 06:40.56 | pandaubuntu | hi, can anyone tell me where is the configuration file of gnome-shell-extension (that says which extensions are active) |
| 06:41.37 | Dagger2 | (uh, whoops, not static; "iface eth0 inet6 manual") |
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| 06:42.19 | cardamon | Did Monospace change sometime recently in Wheezy? |
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| 06:42.32 | cardamon | Things look a little different. |
| 06:42.33 | nmistry | Thanks Dagger2 |
| 06:44.17 | pandaubuntu | ? |
| 06:44.29 | nmistry | thanks Dagger2 it seems to be working now that i have the static dance in place |
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| 06:45.40 | nmistry | Dagger2, is it possible to have both IPV4 and IPV6? |
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| 06:46.07 | nmistry | or do i actulaly need two interfaces |
| 06:46.18 | Dagger2 | yeah, that works fine on a single interface |
| 06:46.49 | Dagger2 | also note that you can't use eth0:0 style labels with IPv6... you just add the addresses to eth0 instead |
| 06:46.51 | nmistry | do i need both iface eht0 inet and iface eth0 inet6 lines? |
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| 06:47.17 | Dagger2 | just the inet line |
| 06:47.20 | nmistry | k |
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| 06:48.27 | pandaubuntu | ?? |
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| 07:13.43 | JPT | BotaniCar: if you did not place it in there, you should ask the owner of the files. otherwise: kill it. |
| 07:13.55 | JPT | well, maybe you want to keep the linux sources |
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| 07:19.09 | nmistry | Dagger2, is there anything special that is needed to get radvd working on br0? |
| 07:19.30 | nmistry | i have forwarding set to 1 |
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| 07:20.05 | Dagger2 | shouldn't be, other than the usual forwarding=1 requirement |
| 07:20.19 | nmistry | tcpdump is showing no packets |
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| 07:21.24 | nmistry | also radvd -d 5 shows nothing :( |
| 07:21.48 | Dagger2 | what does your radvd.conf look like? |
| 07:22.27 | nmistry | http://pastebin.com/zAHvqvS5 |
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| 07:23.35 | nmistry | hmm, interesting i am now getting router advert packets |
| 07:23.43 | nmistry | (not sure why it took so long for them to start) |
| 07:24.10 | Dagger2 | that looks fine. (you can usually just use "prefix ::/64", and it'll figure the prefix out from the IPs on the interface) |
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| 07:25.26 | nmistry | accept_ra is on |
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| 07:25.52 | nmistry | disable_ipv6=0 |
| 07:27.01 | Dagger2 | you also need forwarding=0 on clients for them to accept RAs |
| 07:27.10 | nmistry | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:28.02 | Dagger2 | enabling forwarding stops Linux from configuring itself using SLAAC, because routers are expected to be statically configured |
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| 07:28.15 | aswen | Hi there, I'd like help with the following: my nautilus filemanager "forgets" the width of the namefield after I alter this. Is it possible to make it wider permanent? (I use squeeze/gnome 2.30) |
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| 07:29.05 | Dagger2 | (though as of 2.6.38 or so, you can set accept_ra=2 to force it on even with forwarding on) |
| 07:29.16 | nmistry | i just did a sysctl mod |
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| 07:29.19 | nmistry | lets see if it helps |
| 07:30.50 | nmistry | THERE WE GO!!1 |
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| 07:31.12 | nmistry | Dagger2, that was the problem |
| 07:31.17 | nmistry | forwarding = 1 by default |
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| 07:31.53 | Dagger2 | hm, it's not normally set to 1 on Squeeze |
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| 07:32.01 | nmistry | not sure |
| 07:32.12 | nmistry | im doing this testing inside lxc, so i may have messed something up |
| 07:32.41 | nmistry | but im using debootstrap, so im not sure |
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| 07:35.11 | nmistry | Dagger2, is there a way to increase the speed at which it autoconfigures? |
| 07:35.19 | nmistry | it seems like it takes a few moments for it to autoconfigure |
| 07:35.37 | Dagger2 | it's normally within a few seconds. not sure there's much you can do about that |
| 07:36.20 | Dagger2 | bringing the interface up causes Linux to send router solicitations, so it's not like increasing radvd's advertisment frequency will help either |
| 07:36.38 | nmistry | the interface is up but i dont see any advertisements |
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| 07:37.29 | nmistry | Dagger2: im not referring to seconds, its taking minutes to autoconf |
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| 07:38.03 | Dagger2 | ah... that's not right |
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| 07:38.19 | Dagger2 | any firewall rules that might be blocking the solicitations? |
| 07:38.38 | nmistry | Dagger2: checking that now |
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| 07:40.27 | nmistry | no all firewalls are down |
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| 07:43.58 | nmistry | alright something weird is happening |
| 07:44.17 | nmistry | Dagger2: im running radvd -d 5 to put it in debug 5 and run in foreground |
| 07:44.29 | nmistry | when i hit ctrl-c it sends the advertisement and then resolves |
| 07:44.31 | nmistry | hrmmmm |
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| 07:45.58 | Dagger2 | I've never used radvd's -d. you could try running it normally and monitoring with `radvdump` instead |
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| 07:47.40 | nmistry | Dagger2: i i do an ifdown and ifup will radvdump show something? |
| 07:47.51 | nmistry | if i |
| 07:49.02 | Dagger2 | should do |
| 07:49.12 | Dagger2 | radvdump on the host, and ifdown/ifup on the client |
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| 07:50.21 | nmistry | Dagger2: when you run radvdump, how long does it take to dump the config? |
| 07:50.31 | nmistry | it takes a long while on my side |
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| 07:50.59 | Dagger2 | it dumps any advertisments it sees |
| 07:51.28 | nmistry | after a long while i get … # radvd configuration generated by radvdump 1.6 |
| 07:51.33 | nmistry | and the config its using |
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| 07:52.25 | Dagger2 | does `ping6 ff02::2%eth0` work from the guest? |
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| 07:52.47 | nmistry | yes |
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| 07:53.05 | nmistry | yet no ipv6 |
| 07:53.08 | nmistry | address yet |
| 07:54.41 | Dagger2 | that's the all-routers multicast address. the router solicitations should get sent to that, so if you can ping it the solicitations should be getting through |
| 07:55.09 | Dagger2 | is it something to do with having forwarding turned on initially? if you bring the interface up and only turn forwarding off slightly afterwards, it might not send solicitations |
| 07:55.40 | nmistry | should that be the case when i reboot the container after channging forwarding in sysctl? |
| 07:56.28 | Dagger2 | how are you disabling forwarding? |
| 07:58.36 | nmistry | net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=0 in /etc/sysctl.cfg |
| 07:59.01 | nmistry | here is the config that gets printed when the advert goes through when i ctrl-c |
| 07:59.02 | nmistry | http://pastebin.com/DXQY4uGv |
| 07:59.10 | nmistry | dont know if that helps… |
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| 08:01.05 | Dagger2 | sysctl is read from /etc/rcS.d/S14procps here, which is later than S09ifupdown |
| 08:01.16 | Dagger2 | so it might be disabling forwarding after ifup has run |
| 08:01.23 | nmistry | hm |
| 08:01.31 | nmistry | what do you recommend then? |
| 08:01.41 | nmistry | pre-up? |
| 08:01.44 | Dagger2 | try a "pre-up sysctl -w blah.forwarding=0" line in /e/n/i |
| 08:03.06 | nmistry | should i do conf.all or conf.$IFACE |
| 08:03.21 | Dagger2 | I have no idea |
| 08:03.25 | Dagger2 | there's .default. too! |
| 08:03.31 | nmistry | lets try iface first |
| 08:03.34 | nmistry | since its just for eth0 |
| 08:04.23 | hanibana | Hi. I've installed a Debian Etch as a Xen DomU (within Squeeze as Dom0) using xen-tools. Its kernel has been set to vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-xen-686 and now it's come up with 2.6.32 ! Will this machine be good with this kernel?! |
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| 08:08.10 | nmistry | Dagger2: whats strange is i am not seeing any packets on br0 from the host itself. its only setting the address if the radvd broadcasts. |
| 08:08.14 | nmistry | which is not very often |
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| 08:10.00 | nmistry | Dagger2: does ifup re-announce? |
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| 08:10.08 | nmistry | say i do ifup / ifdown |
| 08:10.13 | nmistry | reverse that |
| 08:10.15 | nmistry | down / up |
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| 08:13.31 | Vdragon | Is there any translators here? I would like to know that whether %N$s type of format specifier can be used in all PO strings? |
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| 08:14.07 | Dagger2 | bringing an interface (i.e. on the client) should cause Linux to send router solicitations |
| 08:14.19 | nmistry | so, i saw it send ff02::2: |
| 08:14.30 | nmistry | and nothing showed up on the tcpdump for br0 |
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| 08:16.39 | Dagger2 | you see the client send it, but it doesn't show up on the server side? |
| 08:16.47 | nmistry | yea |
| 08:16.57 | nmistry | if i login before it gives me an address, this does not work |
| 08:16.57 | nmistry | ping6 'ff02::2%eth0' |
| 08:17.29 | nmistry | once i have an address, it works |
| 08:17.43 | nmistry | actufally scratch that |
| 08:17.53 | nmistry | that does not work for a little while, then starts |
| 08:18.08 | nmistry | even without the address |
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| 08:19.01 | nmistry | i wonder if my bridge has a forwarding delay |
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| 08:20.40 | nmistry | im going to reboot everything and try again, i think something weird is going on w/ the host. |
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| 08:22.12 | nmistry | Dagger2: thanks for all your help… |
| 08:22.36 | nmistry | methinks a reboot and reconfigure will get it working right. |
| 08:22.58 | Dagger2 | here's hoping |
| 08:23.07 | nmistry | heh, true |
| 08:23.23 | klys | anyone here have dosemu working? I have hdimage="/dev/sda1" |
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| 08:24.48 | jelly-home | wow, I don't think I've used dosemu this century |
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| 08:27.27 | klys | my dosemu version is the latest from wheezy |
| 08:27.58 | klys | 1.4.0.1 |
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| 08:29.58 | nmistry | Dagger2, reboot of the host helped |
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| 08:30.15 | nmistry | gets interface almost instentaneously |
| 08:30.26 | nmistry | er. instantaneously |
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| 08:30.57 | nmistry | Dagger2, thanks for your help |
| 08:31.02 | Dagger2 | well... that fixes that |
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| 08:31.40 | nmistry | i think my br0 had forwarding delay set |
| 08:31.42 | nmistry | somehow |
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| 08:32.12 | Dagger2 | that does sound like it would cause your problem |
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| 08:34.52 | inspira | hola! |
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| 08:35.06 | nmistry | am i correct in assuming that SLAAC will give the same address every time, based on the mac.. |
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| 08:35.47 | Dagger2 | yeah |
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| 08:35.53 | nmistry | awesomes |
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| 08:38.05 | nmistry | Dagger2, thanks a bunch. Essentially i have setup LXC containers w/ v6 behind 6to4 on the LXC host. |
| 08:38.35 | nmistry | this was also an exercise for me to learn IPV6 in general |
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| 08:38.46 | nmistry | best way to learn is to get down and dirty |
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| 08:39.00 | ronny | hi |
| 08:39.21 | Vdragon | ronny: Hi |
| 08:39.26 | ronny | where do i report if __u64 and uint64_t are typedef'd to different types |
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| 08:39.38 | ronny | (which implies pointers being incompatible) |
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| 08:55.46 | nmistry | Dagger2: got ipv4 dhcp w/ ipv6 autoconf working, only catch i found was that i needed the inet6 entries before the inet entries |
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| 08:56.29 | untrusted | debian installer is not ipv6-only slaac ready right? |
| 08:56.50 | Nik05 | hey guys |
| 08:56.55 | nmistry | untrusted, im not using the installer, im using debootstrap |
| 08:57.02 | Dagger2 | you shouldn't need any inet6 entries at all. so long as the interface comes up some way or another, SLAAC will happen |
| 08:57.22 | nmistry | if i just have the ipv4's it does not happen for a long time |
| 08:57.27 | Nik05 | where are the message logged when you boot? |
| 08:57.49 | nmistry | if the 6 lines are first it happens right away. |
| 08:57.56 | Dagger2 | untrusted: does it even do v6 at all? :/ |
| 08:57.56 | untrusted | alpha version of wheezy installer tries to configure the network and isn't happy using ipv6-only with slaac |
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| 08:58.20 | untrusted | Dagger2: thats why i ask - maybe i missed something |
| 08:58.42 | Dagger2 | nmistry: weird, my /e/n/i just looks like this in my Xen VMs: https://p.6core.net/p/pr9iympwb5xfafo |
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| 08:59.46 | nmistry | Dagger2: my e/n/i |
| 08:59.47 | nmistry | https://p.6core.net/p/m4iwxlxoqwluie8n |
| 09:00.08 | Nik05 | when booting it says stuff like at started, cron started and just before i could login it said alot of stuff that normally isnt there |
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| 09:00.16 | Nik05 | but too fast to read |
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| 09:00.41 | Dagger2 | oh, maybe https://p.6core.net/p/ydut2cpf1qqwq14 would work |
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| 09:01.04 | nmistry | lemmie try |
| 09:01.09 | nmistry | i think i did that, but ill try again |
| 09:02.24 | nmistry | Dagger2, slap me silly and call me sally |
| 09:02.35 | nmistry | worked |
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| 09:03.14 | nmistry | booted 10 times, and every time it came up |
| 09:03.17 | nmistry | :D |
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| 09:03.42 | nmistry | very very kewl |
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| 09:05.00 | nmistry | lemmie ask a stupid question is there a verison of ping that understands ipv6 vs ipv4 addresses so you dont have to type ping6 and ping |
| 09:06.11 | Dagger2 | I guess there probably is, but I'm not aware of one |
| 09:06.31 | Dagger2 | it wouldn't be too difficult to wrap them in a shell script either |
| 09:06.35 | nmistry | yea |
| 09:06.40 | mz|` | mtr ? :) |
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| 09:13.32 | smellynoser | Howdy - For some reason there was a debian install cd in one of our servers that's just been rebooted, and now it's stuck on the installer page - how can I boot from the hard drive from the installer? |
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| 09:14.00 | sep | smellynoser, can't you eject the cdrom, and reboot ? |
| 09:14.57 | jinsei | smellynoser: any access to the kvm or the bios ? |
| 09:15.10 | smellynoser | I'm on the IP KVM, but don't have access to reboot it or physical access |
| 09:15.21 | smellynoser | I'll have to contact the data centre to take the cd out, but yea could do |
| 09:15.34 | jinsei | with kvm, you can access the bios |
| 09:15.37 | sep | smellynoser, reboot, and alter boot order via bios |
| 09:15.47 | jinsei | press the key which allow to select boot order |
| 09:16.01 | jinsei | or specific boot |
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| 09:26.07 | Cottus | \gnash |
| 09:26.09 | Cottus | !gnash |
| 09:26.10 | dpkg | Gnash is the GNU <Flash> movie player, developed from GPLFlash and part of the GNU project. The project aims to create a free software player and browser plugin. The browser plugins are packaged for Debian as mozilla-plugin-gnash and konqueror-plugin-gnash. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ #gnash on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 09:29.13 | klys | has gnash been tried out on chatcity.com ? |
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| 09:31.56 | Cottus | currently it's not working here at all |
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| 09:44.32 | graff_ | i usually have to create a new user and then gnash works for that user. pretty noob i know. but it works usually Cottus |
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| 09:56.53 | Cottus | init[dot]d, maybe something with the groups |
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| 09:59.35 | init[dot]d | I dunno |
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| 10:01.16 | graff_ | Cottus, nah you just probably have flash installed, is my guess. did you get it to work in a new user? it always works fine for me ofb |
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| 10:07.37 | nmistry | Dagger2: Thanks again for hepling me get the ipv6 stuff sorted. |
| 10:08.07 | nmistry | nite all. |
| 10:09.11 | init[dot]d | night |
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| 10:11.44 | Lartza | If I have squeezxe how can I make it systemwide something more recent? |
| 10:11.48 | Lartza | *squeeze |
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| 10:13.36 | bittin | Hello is there some way to run a 3.0 kernel in Squeeze? |
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| 10:14.22 | klys | yes, the only trouble I had is a crash when doing insmod 3c59x. linux-3.3.0 |
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| 10:14.59 | bittin | klys: okay is there any .deb mirror having newer kernels? |
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| 10:15.25 | klys | I don't know, but check backports.debian.org |
| 10:15.43 | bittin | ah seems they are in backports thx :) |
| 10:15.46 | bittin | i forgot about that |
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| 10:16.09 | init[dot]d | have to add unstable |
| 10:16.17 | init[dot]d | then you can grab it |
| 10:16.40 | klys | remember to back up /var/lib/dpkg beforr upgrading to unstable |
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| 10:21.07 | bitterpennies | I usually use network-manager with openvpn-gnome on debian squeeze gnome, no problems. I just installed debian squeeze lxde, installed nm (no recommends), and it works fine. I installed openvpn-gnome with it, and when i try to connect to it, it immediately notifies me "cant connect openvpn, no vpn secret... (paraphrase)". I connected with openvpn with commandline to test, and it works fine. Any suggestions? |
| 10:21.57 | bittin | init[dot]d: i don't want to upgrade to unstable :p |
| 10:22.22 | init[dot]d | pre release kernels are unstable |
| 10:22.28 | init[dot]d | I believe |
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| 10:24.11 | bittin | linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae seems working good enough from backports :) |
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| 10:31.18 | Ultra_ | Why my multiparted .tar unpacs just partly? (missing files): I have 25 .tar files like: filename.tar.001 - filename.tar.025 When I want to unpack them with cat myarchive.tar.* | tar xvf - it does, but missing files: whole .tar is 1,2 GB, but unpacked files have just 600MB - I have ~200 files missing out of ~400. Ive tared them using 7zip on my Windows OS: add to archive > .tar > 50 MB per part Little image what I mean: http://i.s |
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| 10:38.39 | Ultra_ | Why my multiparted .tar unpacs just partly? (missing files): I have 25 .tar files like: filename.tar.001 - filename.tar.025 When I want to unpack them with cat myarchive.tar.* | tar xvf - it does, but missing files: whole .tar is 1,2 GB, but unpacked files have just 600MB - I have ~200 files missing out of ~400. Ive tared them using 7zip on my Windows OS: add to archive > .tar > 50 MB per part Little image what I mean: http://i.s |
| 10:38.45 | jubei | guys I did adduser -g somegroup and for some reason it didn't create his home dir |
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| 10:41.00 | jubei | now even if I do adduser thatuser -g hisgroup -d /home/thatuser , it still doesn&t work |
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| 10:42.53 | Ultra_ | Why my multiparted .tar unpacs just partly? (missing files): I have 25 .tar files like: filename.tar.001 - filename.tar.025 When I want to unpack them with cat myarchive.tar.* | tar xvf - it does, but missing files: whole .tar is 1,2 GB, but unpacked files have just 600MB - I have ~200 files missing out of ~400. Ive tared them using 7zip on my Windows OS: add to archive > .tar > 50 MB per part Little image what I mean: http://i.s |
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| 10:45.07 | jelly-home | Ultra_: read about -M in tar manual |
| 10:45.24 | Ultra_ | Cool |
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| 10:45.35 | Ultra_ | what it means? :D |
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| 10:46.19 | Ultra_ | jelly-home http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/tar.html have only 2 "-M"'s there and none seems helping |
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| 10:47.17 | jelly-home | Ultra_: ‘--multi-volume’ ‘-M’ Informs tar that it should create or otherwise operate on a multi-volume tar archive. See section Using Multiple Tapes. |
| 10:47.56 | Ultra_ | Can you just tell me what to execute to untar it please? |
| 10:48.21 | jelly-home | Ultra_: I can't. Having never used it, I GUESS tar has its own format and a way to deal with multi-volume archives. You will have to read the manual. |
| 10:48.46 | Ultra_ | OK cool |
| 10:48.50 | Ultra_ | I want to show you something |
| 10:49.04 | Ultra_ | They said something about multi-volumes too: http://superuser.com/questions/441524/why-my-multiparted-tar-unpacs-just-partly-missing-files |
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| 10:49.44 | jelly-home | like I said, I'm not going familiar with the functionality and have never used it |
| 10:49.52 | jelly-home | s/going// |
| 10:50.26 | jelly-home | Ultra_: I suggest using the original docs instead of random web forums. |
| 10:50.27 | Ultra_ | What does it mean "One Tape or Disk"? |
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| 10:50.57 | Ultra_ | Why? They are more experienced people than me AND google gives no answers |
| 10:51.50 | jelly-home | forums are not the authoritative source, authors are |
| 10:54.30 | ChrisH | Ultra_: what does file thinks these parts are? I only used the -M option on real tapes before. Why splitting tar-archiv with weird windows sw? |
| 10:55.03 | Ultra_ | My connection is crap and there was no way to send 1GB tar to a server |
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| 10:55.41 | Sevet | Ultra_: sftp has a 'reput' command to resume uploading, or you could use rsync |
| 10:56.04 | ChrisH | Ultra_: then the standard way would be... tar into one single file, use slit to split into smaller parts; upload the smaller parts, con-cat them and continue. |
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| 10:56.50 | Ultra_ | So can you answer my question? |
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| 10:57.46 | ChrisH | Ultra_: did you answer mine first? My assumption is, winzip produces something that is winzip-only |
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| 11:01.38 | Sevet | Ultra_: if your connection is bad then perhaps the .tar files are corrupted too? compare md5sums to your local copies |
| 11:01.44 | zmitya | hi gents |
| 11:01.46 | Sevet | Ultra_: but i suggest you upload as a single .tar file. use resuming transfers (sftp/rsync) if your connection's unstable. |
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| 11:02.46 | zmitya | I just upgraded my wheezy again (after 2-3 days), my grub-pc failed to install |
| 11:02.51 | zmitya | I get this: http://paste.debian.net/176381/ |
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| 11:04.59 | ksk | " 21880 Killed " did you have an OOM-situation? take a look at dmesg/syslog |
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| 11:17.38 | zmitya | ksk: got it :( it was caused by grsec... |
| 11:17.43 | zmitya | thanks |
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| 11:26.02 | Somelauw | When using aptitude it, suggests to remove some packages. Is there a way to export a list of the packages it would remove? I couldn't find it in the manual. |
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| 11:27.33 | Somelauw | Is there also a reason why aptitude why aptitude could be suggesting removals? |
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| 11:29.03 | ksk | Somelauw: the reason probably is that these packages where installed because another package depended on them. if you remove this package aptitude is so smart sugesting to remove them |
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| 11:29.38 | Somelauw | ksk: Okay, is there a way I can export a list. Maybe by doing aptitude -s someoption? |
| 11:29.58 | Somelauw | I want to export exactly the list it suggests to remove when I open it. |
| 11:31.24 | Somelauw | Running aptitude -s autoclean shows a different list |
| 11:32.13 | ksk | i dont know |
| 11:32.26 | ksk | just fuckin copy&paste what "aptitude safe-upgrade" wants to remove? |
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| 11:33.17 | Somelauw | ksk: That only shows the upgrades, but not the removals. |
| 11:34.18 | Somelauw | And full-upgrade shows the same |
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| 11:39.57 | bittin | changed to Crunchbang that seemd better for my needs :) |
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| 11:43.36 | crane | Somelauw, you have to grep for it |
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| 11:55.28 | nono | hello |
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| 11:55.59 | klys | :) |
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| 11:57.59 | nono | I m running squeeze 6.5 and i set my network via console, and i noticed that networkmanager on gnome desktop is not linked to the 'console' setup of the network, so i searched and enabled the managed (to true), now i can see eth0 but i cant modify it (greyed) dispite fact current user is member of netdev. Anyone know how to solve this ? |
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| 12:00.38 | klys | nono: if you add yourself to a group you must logout and log back in to see results |
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| 12:01.40 | nono | klys, i rebooted in between. note that autologin is enabled (with bios autorestart) because its a server |
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| 12:02.25 | sfsf32 | hi |
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| 12:03.52 | fasta | How can I get a list of installable packages matching some POSIX regexp? |
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| 12:04.46 | sfsf32 | when my system is botting it frezes for a while when is starting wicd service. Any idea about how to fix that? |
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| 12:07.49 | Somelauw | crane: I don't know how I should grep that, since aptitude safe-upgrade doesn't show the removals. |
| 12:08.16 | Somelauw | Is there another way to show the suggestions aptitude suggests, maybe using synpatic. |
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| 12:09.22 | Somelauw | What happens when I run aptitude in interactive mode by doing aptitude -s. |
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| 12:14.00 | pikaro | hi! i'd like to blacklist the iwlwifi kernel module as my internal wifi car is broken, and my external one is rt2800usb. however, even when i put "blacklist iwlwifi" in /etc/modprobe.d, run depmod and regenerate initramfs, iwlwifi is still being loaded at reboot. how can i find out what does this? |
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| 12:15.13 | pikaro | (primarily, i'd like to do so because my usb wifi won't connect to the same ap the internal card - which keeps losing connection - is on. it is possible that this will be fixed when rt2800usb is my new and only wlan0, right?) |
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| 12:16.32 | nkuttler | !tell pikaro about blacklist |
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| 12:18.59 | pikaro | will try if directing it to /bin/true will work, thanks |
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| 12:40.31 | Somelauw | For aptitude does the -s option work in interactive mode as well? |
| 12:41.31 | ksk | no one uses that mode :P ( no me, thats for sure ) |
| 12:41.38 | ksk | s/no/not/ |
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| 12:42.10 | Somelauw | ksk: But there seems to be no other way to get the list of suggested removals? |
| 12:42.51 | Somelauw | And I really want at least someone else to read this list, since I don't want to break this system. |
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| 12:44.51 | ksk | Somelauw: do "aptitude safe-upgrade -sy" and follow instructions. it will tell you which packages it would remove |
| 12:44.56 | ksk | dont get your problem |
| 12:45.26 | kubz | hello, I'm using Debian wheezy, I've installed PHP, but installed version is 5.4, which doesn't work with TYPO3, how can I force Debian to use PHP 5.3? |
| 12:45.40 | ksk | ,versions php |
| 12:45.42 | judd | No package named 'php' was found in i386. |
| 12:45.55 | kubz | ,versions php5 |
| 12:45.55 | ksk | kubz: look for php5.3 at http://packages.debian.org |
| 12:45.56 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze8; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; sid: 5.4.4-2; wheezy: 5.4.4-2 |
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| 12:46.34 | Somelauw | ksk: But when running aptitude in interactive mode, it shows a different list. |
| 12:46.35 | ksk | you could try installing from squeeze, but i guess somthing huge like php will break (libc stuff etC) |
| 12:47.09 | ksk | compile it yourself |
| 12:47.14 | abrotman | kubz: your server runs sid ? |
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| 12:47.32 | kubz | abrotman: it's wheezy (testing) |
| 12:47.42 | kubz | ksk: yes, I'm afraid of that |
| 12:48.05 | ksk | you should be, yes. |
| 12:48.16 | hetOrakel | hi, i've got a nice one. I want to schedule something at say 43 minutes. The thing is i want it to shift in time over a couple of days. Can this be done by cron? |
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| 12:48.29 | ksk | dont use testing for production/something you earn money with |
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| 12:49.06 | kubz | ksk: it isn't for production, I'm trying to make box for vagrant |
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| 12:49.24 | kubz | I wanted to run typo3 on it, but typo3 isn't compatible with PHP 5.4 |
| 12:50.01 | Woet | is it possible to see the contents of the file inside a .tar.gz without extracting it? |
| 12:50.08 | Woet | I know you can list the files, but not the contents of those files |
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| 12:50.55 | H4x012 | i dont think so |
| 12:50.58 | ksk | nope Woet, i thing you will have to extract it |
| 12:51.20 | ksk | otherwhise people would not start crying when they see they have not enough space to unpack some backup ;) |
| 12:51.42 | Woet | i have about 200 archives and they all include the same filename |
| 12:51.45 | Woet | i want to search them all |
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| 12:51.53 | kubz | so, is there any repo for Debian wheezy with PHP 5.3? or compiling from sources would be the fastest option? |
| 12:53.18 | Somelauw | Anyway (since I couldn't find a way to export the list) , it tries to remove a lot of packages because they depend on libc:i386 |
| 12:53.23 | stephan48 | i got a debian based router in a vm, which when hit by a 0.0.0.0 route doesnt route anything out via its tun based tunnel.. |
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| 12:56.18 | stephan48 | my host is win7, any clue on how i could proceed with debugging? |
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| 12:56.31 | stephan48 | on which interface data goes in/out and if they reach my tunnel server at all? |
| 12:56.46 | stephan48 | i got a default route on the router, which redirects all traffic to tun0 |
| 12:56.59 | stephan48 | which works, i tested by accessing a webpage and pinging a host... |
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| 12:59.26 | stephan48 | when i tracert a host on the win7 host system i get from my router the message that the target net is not reachable |
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| 13:05.30 | bartus | hello, I have a problem with regexp in debian's find command. What is wrong with this: find archer-images/ -type f -regex "archer-images\/[0-9]{1}.*" |
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| 13:05.56 | bartus | file name patter looks like this: archer-images/130px-31,213,0,160-Shiningpath.png |
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| 13:06.09 | Pici | the filename has a / in it? |
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| 13:06.37 | crane | i gues archer-images is a directory...? |
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| 13:07.04 | bartus | crane is right, archer-images is directory |
| 13:07.33 | crane | then get it out of your regex ^^ |
| 13:07.35 | Pici | bartus: -regex is for matching against the filename itself, nothing else. |
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| 13:08.17 | bartus | wont work :/. |
| 13:08.34 | crane | bartus, you're trying to find something like archer-images/archer-images/$filenmae |
| 13:09.30 | bartus | yes, looking for a filename in subdirs. |
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| 13:10.06 | crane | but you're describing the subdirectory already in find $pathname |
| 13:10.11 | Pici | crane: shouldn't matter how far down the file is, theres no -maxdepth on that. |
| 13:10.15 | karlpinc | bartus: Start by using ' instead of ". |
| 13:11.47 | bartus | using " instead of ' wont change anything, also adding ".*" on from of the pattern wont produce any output: find archer-images -type f -regex ".*[0-9]{1}.*" |
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| 13:13.11 | bartus | using '+' or '?' instead of '{1}' works well but it's not what i'm looking for. |
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| 13:14.30 | crane | {3} would be better |
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| 13:15.28 | crane | 'cause [0-9]{1} is only searching for 0 till 9 if you've got 10 it doesn't match |
| 13:15.42 | freebird | you guys, which vmware should I use ? for free ? any suggestions ? |
| 13:15.43 | crane | but i'm not a crack with regex :D |
| 13:16.25 | Pici | bartus: looks like you need to specify -regextype as posix-awk, posix-egrex or posix-extended for {} to work properly. |
| 13:16.25 | bartus | crane, wont work :/ there is something terrible wrong with find regex :/ |
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| 13:17.39 | karlpinc | freebird: Unless vmware is a requirement you might consider <kvm>. Also unless full virtualization is required <lxc> can be much faster. If you must have vmware the free version can be installed from <non-free>. |
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| 13:18.41 | karlpinc | freebird: Otherwise, the answer is "depends". |
| 13:18.55 | crane | freebird, i'm using citrix xenserver, there is a free version which you can use. also you can use vmware esxi |
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| 13:19.40 | bartus | Pici, thanks mate ;] works perfect - will try to put it to find alias ! |
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| 13:19.55 | Pici | bartus: np |
| 13:19.57 | crane | bartus, whats now correct? ^ |
| 13:19.59 | crane | ^^ |
| 13:20.20 | gnarface | argh |
| 13:20.44 | pparadis | freebird: what are your specific virtualization goals? |
| 13:20.45 | gnarface | encoding video with ffmpeg and the resulting copy has uneven video playback speed, wtf is up with that? |
| 13:21.04 | H4x012 | guys |
| 13:21.09 | H4x012 | what is the best number for SYNFLOOD = Default: 0 [0-1] |
| 13:21.10 | H4x012 | SYNFLOOD_RATE = |
| 13:21.10 | H4x012 | SYNFLOOD_BURST = |
| 13:21.17 | bartus | i use pasix-egrep, thinks this would be best to keep same standard across my scripts. Now it looks like this: find archer-images -type f -regextype posix-egrep -regex ".*[0-9]{3}.* |
| 13:21.18 | H4x012 | rate and burst |
| 13:21.25 | H4x012 | in CSF firewall |
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| 13:22.12 | karlpinc | freebird: <kvm> is the solution that's most closely integrated into linux/FOSS and seems to have the most long-term legs. <vmware> currently has the most bling but the concensus around here is that that won't last forever. |
| 13:22.19 | Sevet | bartus,crane: regex matches against the full path, so 'find archer-images' regex does indeed match against "archer_iamges/fileame" - hence why .* at start worked (gobbled up path) |
| 13:22.52 | engla | btw, about kvm, do I have to add my user to the kvm group? |
| 13:23.19 | bartus | moreover, to indicate when filename starts i add '\/' after '.*' |
| 13:23.47 | bartus | now it's perfect match ;] |
| 13:24.04 | karlpinc | engla: Best place to look is file:///usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html |
| 13:24.14 | Sevet | bartus: that'll match files not starting with a digit where a directory in its path started with a digit |
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| 13:24.37 | engla | karlpinc: thanks but it does not cover kvm on testing |
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| 13:24.42 | karlpinc | engla: Nope,not there. Try the <readme.debian>. |
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| 13:25.32 | bartus | Sevet, fact... is there a way to limit '\/' to the las slash in path ? |
| 13:26.18 | Sevet | .*[0-9]{3}[^\/]* perhaps |
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| 13:26.49 | Sevet | .*\/[0-9]{3}[^\/]* even |
| 13:27.09 | bartus | Sevet, is it possible for linux filesystem to have file containing '/' ? |
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| 13:27.39 | Sevet | not sure... probably not... |
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| 13:29.31 | gnarface | seems like allowed characters in filenames would be filesystem-specific |
| 13:29.33 | bartus | Sevet, cant produce such file witch touch so probably you cant get it, thank for your help |
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| 13:30.23 | engla | karlpinc: it doesn't mention groups. Which is why I'm asking, I looked through the debian docs briefly before |
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| 13:31.24 | Sevet | gnarface: path separator wouldn't be. it's standard across all linux filesystems. you could get it on disk if you wrote directly to the drive, but i really doubt that file would ever be accessable. |
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| 13:32.23 | p00d73 | Hi, I received a signed PGP key in the text body of the mail instead of in attachment, when I copy-paste it in a text file and give it a .asc extension, GPG fails to import it |
| 13:32.31 | p00d73 | am I doing something wrong? |
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| 13:34.56 | nae | I want to have two instances of the same version of debian selectable via grub. I create a new logical volume, mkfs it, debootstrap a wheezy onto it, configure it (fstab, hosts, users, etc) then run update-grub. update-grub finds the new debootstrap'd wheezy but the root= parameter for the new grub entry is wrong. It's still just the original root. Where does update-grub get that from? |
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| 13:35.25 | nae | if I manually edit grub.cfg, it works fine |
| 13:36.46 | bartus | I have a specific question to ask, is someone now a free library, tool which provide 'cutting stock solver'. I am working on a script to automatically rearrange windows to get most optimized layout. Ned to solve 'nesting problem' for n'th windows base on their size. |
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| 13:55.56 | H4x012 | is it force to mount /tmp as file system? |
| 13:56.07 | H4x012 | and can someone explain why? |
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| 14:14.28 | hetOrakel | i want to schedule something at say 43 minutes. The thing is i want it to shift in time over a couple of days. |
| 14:15.15 | ksk | have fun. |
| 14:16.03 | hetOrakel | i have no idea how to do this any tips? |
| 14:16.33 | ksk | is an instersting question, but i have no idea. |
| 14:17.07 | hetOrakel | cron allows me only to schedule at predefined times/dates |
| 14:17.49 | engla | you have at |
| 14:17.52 | engla | `at' |
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| 14:19.09 | wolfric | what's with this..? W: Failed to fetch http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/oldstable/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 193.62.202.28 80] |
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| 14:19.50 | wolfric | ther'es no oldstable dir there... |
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| 14:20.36 | ksk | wolfric: did you do an aptitude update recently? |
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| 14:21.19 | engla | why not use the release name |
| 14:21.33 | engla | all the dists there are oldstables |
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| 14:22.46 | wolfric | ksk: yes that's where the error came from |
| 14:23.14 | wolfric | ksk: this was a valid sources.list entry for ages why was the oldstable dir removed...? |
| 14:23.24 | ksk | it was removed. |
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| 14:23.39 | wolfric | yes i can see that ... why? |
| 14:25.29 | hetOrakel | engla: how would `at' help me? The only way i see is to schedule all the occurences by hand. Not at a given interval... could you be more specific? |
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| 14:28.14 | hetOrakel | aaaaaaah! would it be possible to let the job reschedule itself??!! |
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| 14:29.15 | engla | right, or another scripted solution using at or something else |
| 14:29.35 | pc_magas | How can I make apt lokk first into the backports? |
| 14:29.43 | pc_magas | How can I make apt look first into the backports?* |
| 14:29.57 | pc_magas | when I upgrade my system? |
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| 14:32.00 | ersoy_ | hello, I can not install debian mutli-arch on my netbook; It is not find packages mirror |
| 14:32.22 | ersoy_ | only install standart system and ssh server |
| 14:32.25 | ersoy_ | how can i do? |
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| 14:37.41 | hetOrakel | engla: you're my hero! ;) |
| 14:37.45 | hetOrakel | it's working |
| 14:38.06 | engla | great, I knew I would one day be a hero |
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| 14:39.56 | rtfm | i have a problem |
| 14:39.59 | rtfm | watch this |
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| 14:40.41 | tempspace | Has anybody upgraded OpenSSL on squeeze before? |
| 14:40.45 | rtfm | http://pastebin.com/GFbv2Pqj |
| 14:40.48 | rtfm | ;) |
| 14:40.53 | rtfm | please help me |
| 14:40.56 | rtfm | (dance) |
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| 14:45.13 | abrotman | pc_magas: you don't want that |
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| 14:48.14 | pc_magas | Actually I found a way to do that |
| 14:48.40 | pc_magas | But it did not upgrated the kernel into 3.2.xx.... |
| 14:50.03 | tharkun | abrotman: Is there a package for ldap admin documentation? |
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| 14:56.00 | abrotman | tharkun: openldap you mean? |
| 14:56.06 | tharkun | abrotman: yes |
| 14:56.15 | abrotman | tharkun: i think the website is probably the best reference .. i'm not aware of any other .. simonlnu may be |
| 14:56.32 | tharkun | abrotman: thanks I'll pester him |
| 14:56.51 | tharkun | simonlnu: consider your self pestered about the slapd documentation on debian :-) |
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| 15:01.04 | tharkun | simonlnu: forget about it. i found this, http://www.openldap.org/doc/ maybe a reference on the man page or the README.Debian should be appropiate :-) |
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| 15:04.36 | Jhonyy1987 | Hi all |
| 15:04.58 | Jhonyy1987 | I'm trying to update my system and after doing apt-get upgrade as root I get the following error |
| 15:05.04 | Jhonyy1987 | E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 15:05.05 | Jhonyy1987 | E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 15:05.12 | Jhonyy1987 | Anyone knows how to fix this? |
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| 15:08.23 | Jhonyy1987 | fixed, I had another process in background |
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| 15:11.57 | Chelsea | What is the best way to auto-mount usb devices based on their device name in Stable? Would that be dbus, or maybe something else? |
| 15:12.36 | Natureshadow | _Nothin_ would ever be dbus in a not-so-evil world, Chelsea ... |
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| 15:14.36 | Chelsea | Natureshadow, atm I'm using scripts, but that's a very quick and dirty way. |
| 15:15.08 | Natureshadow | Chelsea: not necessarily. attach them to udev rules. |
| 15:16.14 | Chelsea | udev is a better way to solve auto-mounting than dbus? |
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| 15:19.50 | adac | any ideas why my entries in /etc/crontab are not working? Nothing gets executed. This is how my file looks like: https://gist.github.com/2996369 not even the "touch" command which I added for testing purposes. |
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| 15:22.10 | pickcoder | I am unable to build postfix 2.9.1 from bpo.. undefined reference to dict_pcre_open from libutil.a |
| 15:22.31 | pickcoder | the original tarball builds fine but I need to debian updates |
| 15:22.35 | pickcoder | s/to/the |
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| 15:23.25 | pickcoder | any ideas? these are built-ins with provided libs so I dunno why it is complaining |
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| 15:35.37 | tash | Not sure if this be asked in a Windows room or not, but figured I'd start here. I've mounted a Windows share via cifs. My webapp tries to create a folder on the share via mkdir but I keep getting permission denied. I set perms up on the Windows folder so that EVERYONE has Modify. Am I missing something else? |
| 15:37.24 | n1md4 | tash: Not really answering your question, but I had a similar problem with sshfs. I had to su and was then able to work. Does it work as root? |
| 15:37.40 | CybDev | modify != create |
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| 15:37.56 | CybDev | doesnt windows use acls? not standard rwx permissions? |
| 15:38.09 | liuyuan | Hi there, I'm trying to set up my wireless with debian wheezy. I would appreciate some help in the process. |
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| 15:38.19 | liuyuan | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.23 | skilz_ | Hey has anyone had trouble getting fake transparency using VMWare? |
| 15:38.26 | skilz_ | My setup is MacBook Pro running Debian Linux via WMWare Fusion, When I load up urxvt it's white with black text, I would like transparent with white text. |
| 15:38.36 | n1md4 | liuyuan: installed wireless-tools? |
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| 15:38.55 | n1md4 | liuyuan: are you in a gui ? |
| 15:39.02 | liuyuan | yes and yes |
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| 15:39.10 | gnarface | skilz_: off by default. check the man page |
| 15:39.14 | liuyuan | n1md4: I'm in x, but without a DE |
| 15:39.31 | n1md4 | can you see the interface; 'ifconfig' or 'ip a s' |
| 15:39.48 | skilz_ | gnarface: Yeah man I know about .Xdefaults and all that, But it didn't seem to work last time I tried. |
| 15:39.54 | liuyuan | No, I cannot, thanks for answering, btw. |
| 15:40.03 | gnarface | skilz_: o |
| 15:40.12 | shield | o/ |
| 15:40.27 | gnarface | skilz_: i've never tried setting it through .Xdefaults, i just pass a bunch of command line parameters |
| 15:40.44 | skilz_ | gnarface: Let me try that out. |
| 15:41.17 | gnarface | skilz_: urxvt -tr -fg grey80 -tint blue -sh 90 -tn xterm -vb |
| 15:42.07 | calrogman | `echo urxvt.transprent:on >> ~/.Xdefaults && xrdb -merge .Xdefaults && urxvt' |
| 15:42.18 | tash | CybDev: I gave write too, but not full control...not exactly sure how Windows does it honestly. |
| 15:42.22 | tash | I'll try as root |
| 15:42.23 | liuyuan | Hi there, I'm trying to set up my wireless with debian wheezy. I would appreciate some help in the process. |
| 15:42.35 | tash | root works fine |
| 15:42.41 | calrogman | What problems are you having liuyuan? |
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| 15:42.54 | skilz_ | gnarface: Well that works fine, do you type that every time you load it? |
| 15:43.17 | n1md4 | liuyuan: okay. so, you can get networking on it? Maybe missing firmware, what's the output of 'dpkg -l | grep firmware'? |
| 15:43.25 | tash | n1md4: when I su - www-data and try the mkdir, it fails |
| 15:43.29 | tash | permission denied |
| 15:43.32 | calrogman | skilz_: Use .Xdefaults |
| 15:43.37 | nerdistmonk | why does pidgin get all distorted (crackling) on voice calls, im on debian sid using pidgin 2.10.4? |
| 15:43.45 | cads | Hey guys, I upgraded to debian-testing, and I think it was a a mistake. XFCE is unstable, gnome panel is no longer configurable, random little parts of the desktop system are broken. |
| 15:43.46 | n1md4 | tash: I mean as root |
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| 15:43.51 | calrogman | The urxvt man page has a list of resources you can set. |
| 15:43.53 | tash | as root it works |
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| 15:44.21 | dondelelcaro | cads: please file specific bugs against packages documenting the problems that you find. |
| 15:44.33 | n1md4 | tash: Ah, okay. I'm afraid I don't have the answer beyond that, only that I have a similar problem on archlinux using sshfs. |
| 15:45.02 | liuyuan | n1md4: ii firmware-linux-free 3 Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel |
| 15:46.58 | nerdistmonk | why does pidgin get all distorted (crackling) on voice calls, im on debian sid using pidgin 2.10.4? |
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| 15:47.26 | gnarface | skilz_: no i don't type it every time i load it silly :-p |
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| 15:47.36 | n1md4 | liuyuan: just a suggestion, but maybe add 'non-free' to the end of your sources.lst and then install firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 15:48.02 | gnarface | skilz_: i just put that as the command in my user applications menu in e16 |
| 15:48.16 | skilz_ | Hmm, when I add this line to .Xdefaults and restart X it doesn't worj, urxvt -tr -fg grey80 -tint blue -sh 90 -tn xterm -vb |
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| 15:48.31 | cads | dondelelcaro, I have done so with a few of them. But I'd like to reinstall debian stable, and take the opportunity to use the 64 bit kernel. I was wondering if there's a way to save some of the manual config work I did on this current instance, to avoid forgetting all the packages and shortcuts I had, etc. |
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| 15:48.46 | gnarface | skilz_: that's not how .Xdefaults works as far as i know... |
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| 15:49.44 | calrogman | skilz_: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=dMnXv7HC I assumed you meant +tr +vb rather than -tr -vb |
| 15:50.52 | rootant | o/ |
| 15:50.59 | calrogman | wishes more things could be configured using X resources. |
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| 15:54.50 | calrogman | twiddles his thumbs and waits for skilz_ to come back |
| 15:55.20 | gnarface | calrogman: according to the urxvt manpage - is on and + is off... not sure how that translates to .Xdefaults though as i don't use it |
| 15:55.35 | dymaxion | hi, can anyone tell me the equivalent app for system-config-lvm (FC) in Debian? I'd like a graphical editor that I can create some LVM partitions and create RAID 1+0 setup. thanks |
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| 15:56.29 | calrogman | gnarface: Oh, okay, I read that all wrong then. I get the feeling those settings are some sort of elaborate practical joke, like the syntax of `dd'. |
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| 15:57.22 | gnarface | calrogman: right or like the origin of the names for LDAP and WINE |
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| 16:00.16 | gusto | hey |
| 16:01.34 | gusto | i have the problem, that i want to set my date with dvb-t using dvbdate, the problem is only, i am in the CEST timezone and the DVB-T mux seems to give me GMT+1, is there any way to set it locally to GMT+1 let it sync, and then set back? |
| 16:01.46 | balboah | any ideas why my sandy bridge motherboard doesn't recognize the debian iso when I mount it through supermicor's ipmi? it has always worked before, but not on this uefi thing |
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| 16:02.24 | calrogman | Heh, gnarface, urxvt's options are exactly opposite of xterms, where +vb turns a visual bell on and -vb turns it off. -/ |
| 16:02.52 | gnarface | calrogman: hilarious |
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| 16:12.38 | bitHipy | anyone running debian on a dual-sim phone? i'd like to find some hardware that can support this |
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| 16:14.26 | dokma | can parted resize partition and the filesystem(ext3) on it ?? |
| 16:14.43 | tharkun | I will get my hands on a used Samsung Galaxy phone in the near future. It runs Android at the moment. Is it possible to ditch that crap and install something else on it? |
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| 16:15.28 | sney | tharkun: there are some custom firmware distributions but you can't really run debian on it without losing the phone functionality |
| 16:15.57 | tharkun | sney: Do you have google term for that. It seems interesting to do it |
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| 16:16.32 | CRUNK | hey guys what is the utility in gnome's appearance to modify fonts for GTK called on the command line? i dont want to log out of my X session and log back into GNOME |
| 16:16.39 | sney | what, to put debian on it? I don't know if there are any howtos, but you probably have to bootstrap it anyway |
| 16:16.43 | CRUNK | got some stuff i dont want to lose |
| 16:17.23 | nvz | Can anyone give me advice on running down an intermittent gpu issue? Perhaps some kind of ignorant means of trying to induce the gpu hung scenario or something. I get periodic screen flicker like glitches and when I do 3d stuff eventually it it starts throwing i915_drm errors and in the most extreme situation the whole machine locks up |
| 16:17.34 | thewanderer1 | tharkun: the best you can do is run Debian in a chroot... works for me |
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| 16:19.41 | qw[UA] | help me please |
| 16:20.06 | qw[UA] | i am use in Spark (ubuntu) and i would like my monitor is auto-disable |
| 16:20.15 | tharkun | thewanderer1: thanks, I will disect the phones rom if necesary. it will be on a phone whos eol has allready arrived. |
| 16:20.20 | qw[UA] | help me please in off this options |
| 16:20.34 | gnarface | dpkg, tell qw[UA] about ubuntu |
| 16:20.36 | boudiccas | qw[UA]: then please ask in #ubuntu, its off topic here. we only support debian |
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| 16:27.27 | liuyuan | Hello debian, I'm still trying to get my wireless working |
| 16:27.39 | liuyuan | I can see it in ifconfig -a but not ifconfig |
| 16:27.48 | liuyuan | here are some information, thanks in advance |
| 16:27.58 | liuyuan | http://paste.debian.net/176435/ |
| 16:28.19 | calrogman | "16:42 < calrogman> What problems are you having liuyuan?" Thanks for finally answering. |
| 16:28.29 | liuyuan | I'm using wheezy 3.2.0-1-amd64, btw |
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| 16:28.43 | liuyuan | calrogman: sorry, I had to reboot :) |
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| 16:28.55 | calrogman | Fair enough. |
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| 16:29.27 | liuyuan | I tried adding the carl firmware as suggested on one of the forum post |
| 16:29.30 | liuyuan | It didn't work... |
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| 16:31.06 | calrogman | What does `iwlist wlan0 scan' say, liuyuan? |
| 16:33.21 | liuyuan | wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down |
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| 16:33.34 | liuyuan | sudo ifup wlan0 says |
| 16:33.34 | calrogman | ifconfig wlan0 up && !! :-) |
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| 16:33.52 | liuyuan | Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0. |
| 16:34.37 | calrogman | That's because it's not configured in /etc/network/interfaces, try runing `sudo ifconfig wlan0 up'. |
| 16:34.38 | spm-Draget | I know with all the fuzz about the raspberrypi it is not the best time to ask, but does anyone know and (even slower/worse) old (maybe china products?) arm-based machines, that run debian arm? Some I can eventually get even cheaper than 25-30$ ? |
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| 16:35.15 | spm-Draget | Basically just need something with working usb and ethernet =D (working usb could be enough ,there are some arm drivers for usb ethernet sticks) |
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| 16:37.49 | liuyuan | calrogman: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up didn't seem to change /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:37.55 | liuyuan | should I add it manually? |
| 16:38.11 | calrogman | Don't bother with that yet, we just want to get the card up for now. |
| 16:38.36 | calrogman | Try `iwlist wlan0 scan' again. |
| 16:39.16 | liuyuan | which package is that a part of? |
| 16:39.24 | liuyuan | it can't find the command. |
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| 16:40.13 | calrogman | Try `sudo iwlist wlan0 scan'... |
| 16:40.13 | liuyuan | wait sorry |
| 16:40.28 | liuyuan | let me paste it, one second, thanks :) |
| 16:40.43 | liuyuan | http://paste.debian.net/176437 |
| 16:41.11 | liuyuan | Hey! airyork, nice! |
| 16:41.39 | calrogman | `sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid AirYork && sudo dhclient wlan0' should get you online. |
| 16:41.50 | calrogman | If I remember manual wireless configuration right. |
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| 16:42.20 | liuyuan | let me try unplugging the eth0 |
| 16:42.29 | calrogman | No need for that. :-/ |
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| 16:43.47 | calrogman | How'd that go liuyuan? |
| 16:43.51 | liuyuan | calrogman: Great, I'm on wifi! Thanks! |
| 16:44.01 | liuyuan | wicd-curses is still bugging out though... |
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| 16:44.53 | calrogman | I bet a fiver you need to press P, scroll down to Wireless interface and type in wlan0. |
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| 16:46.17 | liuyuan | :o |
| 16:46.31 | liuyuan | calrogman: you would be five bucks richer |
| 16:46.51 | calrogman | Of course I would, that's *always* the problem with wicd not working. |
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| 16:47.22 | liuyuan | calrogman: Thanks very much |
| 16:47.31 | calrogman | No problem, enjoy Debian. :-) |
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| 16:47.57 | liuyuan | I will, it looks like it has a great community, hopefully, one day I will be good enough to be here and help others |
| 16:48.10 | liuyuan | Thanks again |
| 16:48.16 | calrogman | !next |
| 16:48.17 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 16:51.13 | trysten | i have a would, that's *always* the problem with wicd not working. |
| 16:52.10 | trysten | I'm sorry. that was a mistake. i have a USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge, and i was wondering how to figure out what driver it was using so i could include it in the initramfs for another system (that needs to boot off of it) |
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| 16:53.29 | calrogman | trysten: `lsmod | grep usb' would probably narrow it down. Put the output on a pastebin and share it with us. |
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| 16:56.35 | trysten | http://paste.debian.net/176442/ |
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| 16:57.47 | trysten | it would be easy to copy all those into the initramfs. do i have to do something with depmod after that? (i don't quite understand depmod yet) |
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| 16:59.36 | calrogman | No, depmod is for something else. Put all of those in the initramfs and run update-initramfs. |
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| 17:00.36 | Bartzy | How can I tell if a file is currently in the kernel cache ? |
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| 17:00.49 | jexmex | quick question |
| 17:01.20 | teaman | I'm running squeeze and I'm unable to add a parameter to my boot line grub. I edited GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX to contain 'consoleblank=0', ran update-grub. /boot/grub/grub.cfg contains this boot param, but after rebooting this isn't added to grub. Any ideas? |
| 17:02.30 | calrogman | teaman: <sarcasm>Use LILO instead.</sarcasm> |
| 17:03.20 | jexmex | if I have downloaded a .deb file, how can I install it, and force it to install dependencies? Trying to get mysql workbench working with the ubuntu 11 .deb file |
| 17:03.59 | ksk | jexmex: get the .debs of the dependencies, and install them before |
| 17:04.14 | ksk | jexmex: this is a "fucked up" setup anyway |
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| 17:04.38 | craigevil | also not a good idea to use ubuntu packages |
| 17:04.42 | jexmex | I download one deb then it pops up another one, was hoping I could tell it to go look for all dependencies and install them |
| 17:04.50 | jexmex | yeah there is no debian package |
| 17:04.52 | ksk | thats what i meant, mixing debian with ubuntu is not cool |
| 17:05.05 | craigevil | jexmex, so build one from sources |
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| 17:05.25 | ksk | there might be reasons doing so, but running a mysql server is not imho :P |
| 17:05.44 | jexmex | I had it working with with the ubuntu 10 deb, but it crashes all the time. Was going to try from source, not sure if I am brave enough |
| 17:06.01 | jexmex | mysql workbench is not a server |
| 17:06.38 | trysten | calrogman: i was wondering if there is a way to apply the magic of update-initramfs to an ramfs that's not intended to be run on the local machine |
| 17:06.41 | Devastator | i had an idea for judd bot, with who should i talk to? |
| 17:06.56 | abrotman | jexmex: you'd have to rip the .deb apart, change the deps, pack it back up .. and then it will crash on you when you try to run it |
| 17:07.05 | craigevil | jexmex, /msg dpkg ssb follow the instructions, but instead of a sid deb-src use the ubuntu deb-src , you can also check mentors to see if its there |
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| 17:07.51 | jexmex | ok, I am just going deal with it for now, maybe run it on my windows laptop, dont really have time to mess with it atm |
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| 17:08.03 | Bartzy | How can I tell if a file is currently in the kernel cache ? |
| 17:08.30 | calrogman | !tell Devastator about source judd |
| 17:09.03 | karlpinc | Devastator: dpkg knows about judd, poke around it's factoids or perhaps ask judd for help. |
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| 17:09.40 | Devastator | thanks calrogman, karlpinc |
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| 17:10.47 | karlpinc | Bartzy: I think ps will tell you, with the right options. This might be entirely wrong.... Alternately, I'd try lsof. |
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| 17:11.48 | AliceNine | hello, how can i install vlc 2.0.x on Debian 6.0.5? |
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| 17:13.56 | Devastator | well, perhaps it's better for me to share this idea and see if it's usable or not.. i thought about creating a !whynot <package> command for judd, then it can explains why this package is not used by debian etc.. |
| 17:13.58 | dondelelcaro | AliceNine: you'll have to backport it |
| 17:14.06 | dondelelcaro | AliceNine: or request that someone else backport it |
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| 17:18.35 | AliceNine | dondelelcaro: build from source, or too many depencies? |
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| 17:19.12 | Devastator | backporting is easier and safer imo |
| 17:19.34 | calrogman | Configuring VLC is like configuring physical constants so a universe doesn't implode on itself instantaneously. Backporting's the way to go. |
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| 17:19.55 | dondelelcaro | AliceNine: backporting is basically building from source, but with the added benifit of being able to upgrade, and not having to figure out how to configure the build system yourself |
| 17:20.06 | dondelelcaro | !tell AliceNine -about ssb |
| 17:20.23 | dondelelcaro | AliceNine: I'm not sure if the simple sid backport instructions will work for vlc, but that's the place to start |
| 17:21.14 | Devastator | you can always /msg judd checkbackport <package name> before trying |
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| 17:22.20 | tharkun | AliceNine: Check dependencies. Beeing a GUI most of the times trouble lies there. :( |
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| 17:26.01 | Bartzy | karlpinc. lsof is for open files. |
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| 17:27.46 | H4x012 | guys... what is the best ftp server to use on debian server? |
| 17:27.49 | H4x012 | also secure |
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| 17:28.15 | tharkun | I have an old-stable server still running, It is running postfix 2.9.3 and dovecot 2.1.7 neither of those is currently on stable, how can i upgrade the machine and still have a smooth transition with this particular packages? |
| 17:29.06 | tharkun | H4x012: sftp-server is part of the ssh suit. They are known for beeing very secure. |
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| 17:31.51 | jhutchins_lt | tharkun: The only real way to ensure a smooth transition is to model and test it. Clone your server (perhaps as a VM), upgrade the clone and check for problems. |
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| 17:32.28 | jhutchins_lt | tharkun: On the other hand, you can check the changelogs and scan forums for people who did a lenny-squeeze upgrade and see what issues come up. |
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| 17:32.49 | jhutchins_lt | tharkun: While the lack of screaming here is a good indication, not everybody here runs a public mailserver. |
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| 17:33.51 | jhutchins_lt | tharkun: I must admit that while I haven't upgraded mine yet, the determined effort by packagers and supporters to drive lenny out of existance has begun to wear me down. DMM doesn't support lenny any more. |
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| 17:34.43 | jhutchins_lt | I don't understand why they're so adamant about getting rid of it. Transition to the new gnome and KDE desktops is a big step backwards in usability for some people. Why can't they stick with something that works for them? |
| 17:35.00 | tharkun | jhutchins_lt: Same here. Since the only public daemons running are smtp and imap I've taken the steps to avoid upgrading. :-) |
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| 17:35.56 | tharkun | jhutchins_lt: what is gnome? and kde how do you cook it? /me has some vague memories |
| 17:36.57 | gnarface | gnome == persistent and malignant devolution of the concept of a desktop environment |
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| 17:37.16 | gnarface | kde == something that wants to be MS Windows really bad |
| 17:37.28 | dokma | xfce all the way |
| 17:37.46 | digdilem | unity? |
| 17:38.14 | gnarface | managed to successfully compile enlightenment 0.16 back in the late 90's and stuck with it |
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| 17:38.43 | dokma | enlightenment was my first try |
| 17:38.47 | tharkun | has been recompiling and patching ion3 for quite some time now |
| 17:38.50 | dokma | I think it was around 96 |
| 17:39.08 | digdilem | i love that there's plenty of choice |
| 17:39.33 | digdilem | and i don't blame WM's for borrowing look and feel from windows, as a UI windows is ok |
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| 17:40.30 | gnarface | well its pretty popular my complaint is mostly with the memory footprint ... i don't want my WM to have DE features |
| 17:40.39 | gnarface | i just want to fit more terminals on a screen and be able to overlap them |
| 17:40.43 | gnarface | virtual desktops are nice though too |
| 17:41.04 | digdilem | fair enough. not being a million miles from windows is useful when trying to migrate users away too :) |
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| 17:41.20 | gnarface | yea, not a situation i've ever had to be in |
| 17:41.43 | jhutchins_lt | There's an alternative to screen that does tiled consoles if that's all you need. |
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| 17:42.16 | calrogman | One word, "tmux". |
| 17:42.22 | gnarface | jhutchins_lt: well i'm speaking in hyperbole to a certain degree here... technically many of the programs i open are *not* terminal emulators |
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| 17:42.42 | jhutchins_lt | calrogman: Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of. |
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| 17:43.21 | jhutchins_lt | gnarface: Careful, we've been known to solve "problems" even when we know they're sarcasm. |
| 17:43.53 | digdilem | heh |
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| 17:44.39 | gnarface | right now the only problem i'm really having is with ffmpeg failing to transcode my fight-club dvd properly |
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| 17:45.32 | jhutchins_lt | My problem is I want tovid on my lenny desktop, but I don't want kde4. |
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| 17:46.47 | gnarface | oh fancy |
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| 17:47.58 | craigevil | tried using the tovid repo? |
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| 17:49.22 | boudiccas | gnarface: have you tried handbrake for it? |
| 17:49.50 | gnarface | boudiccas: i have not |
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| 17:50.47 | gnarface | boudiccas: i'm more interested in what the hell ffmpeg's problem is and whether there's a way around it than what i could use instead |
| 17:51.11 | digdilem | it's a good suggestion for when you get bored of that though, hb is "the" app for ripping |
| 17:51.30 | boudiccas | gnarface: fair enough |
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| 17:51.56 | gnarface | boudiccas: i've done this before with other DVDs and video content before successfully - i'm even using the comands i saved from back then and getting different results, so either there's something different in ffmpeg than back then, or there's something weird about this particular video (possibly both) |
| 17:52.06 | gnarface | digdilem: noted. its not in debian main though, is it? |
| 17:52.25 | digdilem | unsure. it is good though |
| 17:52.27 | boudiccas | ,versions handbrake |
| 17:52.28 | judd | No package named 'handbrake' was found in i386. |
| 17:52.37 | boudiccas | odd |
| 17:52.49 | craigevil | its in the dmo repo |
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| 17:54.06 | jhutchins_lt | craigevil: tovid seems to have gone dormant. They were looking for a new "owner" when last they updated, and it's the dependencies mencoder and transcode that I can't meet. |
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| 17:55.06 | jhutchins_lt | craigevil: dmm? |
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| 18:06.38 | mdhopkins | hi, how do I copy from my computer to a folder in an ssh session while logged in? |
| 18:07.03 | gnarface | mdhopkins: man scp |
| 18:07.20 | mdhopkins | oh sorry, thought scp was for when i'm not logged in only. |
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| 18:07.35 | gnarface | mdhopkins: scp is for files. ssh is not. |
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| 18:08.01 | mdhopkins | seems a bit daft to have to nab around in ssh, then switch windows just to run a command though. :( thanks guys. |
| 18:08.09 | mdhopkins | nab = nav |
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| 18:09.04 | gnarface | mdhopkins: for people who aren't good with memorization of file paths or using multiple terminals concurrently there *do* exist graphical ftp/sftp/scp clients |
| 18:09.45 | rootant | mdhopkins: you might want to take a look at sshfs |
| 18:09.52 | gnarface | mdhopkins: also there is sshfs which allows you to mount directories over ssh as you would ... rootant beat me to it |
| 18:09.56 | dondelelcaro | mdhopkins: you can also use <enter>~C!scp foohost:barfile baz; |
| 18:10.05 | dondelelcaro | if for some reason changing windows is a huge problem |
| 18:10.08 | rootant | gnarface: :> |
| 18:10.25 | mdhopkins | heh. i guess it's not a huge problem. i just hate to think i'm missing out on a better command :) |
| 18:10.27 | craigevil | jhutchins_lt, yes handbrake is in the deb-multimedia.org repo |
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| 18:13.57 | cerettala_ | anyone have any luck with fglrx and Xorg 1.12? Seems as though the two will not play nice with each other |
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| 18:14.11 | Alogeno_ | hello, i'm on sid and trying to make a multisystem usb pen, can someone point me to a good script or something to put many iso into one usb? |
| 18:14.27 | cerettala_ | yumi |
| 18:15.12 | Alogeno_ | yumi it's not only for win? |
| 18:15.29 | cerettala_ | there is, but it has a different name |
| 18:15.37 | cerettala_ | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ |
| 18:15.40 | cerettala_ | there you go |
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| 18:16.33 | Alogeno_ | yeah i'm already there but i only see a .exe and a small link for source |
| 18:17.45 | Alogeno_ | nope sorry i was on a different page |
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| 18:18.31 | Alogeno_ | and already tried install-depot-multiboot.sh but it ask me sudo passwd even if i'm root :/ |
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| 18:20.27 | H4x012 | MO_Handes |
| 18:20.29 | H4x012 | chetori? |
| 18:20.41 | thewanderer1 | Alogeno_, just use GRUB and configure it properly |
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| 18:21.55 | Alogeno_ | thanks thewanderer1 , can you point to a link? never done before |
| 18:22.03 | Blwch | OpenSSH is user's ~/.ssh keys if I've run `passwd -l user` -- is this Debian specific? IIRC, it was common to run `passwd -l` on a user if OpenSSH was only allowing access via private/public keys. Or perhaps I am being an idiot somehow? |
| 18:22.12 | Blwch | OpenSSH is rejecting* |
| 18:22.32 | freebird | you guys I'm creating a script of mobiles, how can I test so many mobile types ?? any app that helps me pelase ? |
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| 18:23.57 | dondelelcaro | Blwch: passwd -l just disables the user's password |
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| 18:24.27 | Blwch | dondelelcaro: I realise this only happens when UsePAM is set to no in sshd_config. |
| 18:24.36 | dondelelcaro | Blwch: if you want to disallow password authentication via ssh, then you do that PasswordAuthentication no |
| 18:24.44 | Blwch | Yes. |
| 18:24.55 | Blwch | I have that and UsePAM set to no -- I am now locked out of SSH. |
| 18:25.05 | dondelelcaro | Blwch: uh... why did you set UsePAM to no? |
| 18:25.44 | Blwch | dondelelcaro: I was told to do so many years ago when I was new and I had no reason to question this until now, apparently. |
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| 18:26.39 | gnarface | Blwch: and lemme guess... private key auth isn't working yet? |
| 18:26.52 | Blwch | gnarface: Correct. |
| 18:27.06 | Blwch | I either have to set UsePAM to yes or run passwd -u user -- neither of which I can do right now. |
| 18:27.37 | gnarface | i think actually you'd have to do both but i'm not sure |
| 18:27.43 | Blwch | gnarface: I've tested it on a second box. |
| 18:27.52 | Blwch | Either or seem to work. |
| 18:28.21 | gnarface | well i hope your data center support staff doesn't suck |
| 18:28.36 | Blwch | Fired off an e-mail, waiting. :p |
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| 18:29.51 | thewanderer1 | Alogeno_, create a partition on the target device, install GRUB on it, set the menu entries appropriately |
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| 18:32.27 | dokma | fdisk offers me to start a new partition on the same cylinder as the first one begins |
| 18:32.35 | dokma | isn't this wrong? |
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| 18:34.18 | dokma | as the first one ends that is |
| 18:37.30 | Blwch | gnarface: (should you care, somebody apparently has left their ssh session open for the past few days as root and we are back in!) |
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| 18:37.59 | gnarface | Blwch: hah. well i guess every cloud has a silver lining after all |
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| 18:42.34 | mrhaag | hello everyone. I'm trying to compile the hpsa (HP SmartArray SCSI) driver for a debian kernel, would this be a good place to ask questions, or should I ask a different channel? |
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| 18:45.30 | gnarface | mrhaag: did you check to see if its available through m-a ? |
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| 18:45.55 | mrhaag | I did check m-a. Didn't see it. |
| 18:46.42 | mrhaag | I have an odd problem, and it wouldn't be an issue except that I'm being forced to use the 2.6.24 amd64 kernel rather than a current one |
| 18:46.54 | mrhaag | you see, hpsa ships standard in everything over 2.6.33 |
| 18:47.04 | mrhaag | but I have a vendor who won't upgrade their distro |
| 18:47.05 | gnarface | hmmmm |
| 18:47.10 | sney | why are you forced to use an older kernel? |
| 18:47.11 | gnarface | so lenny? |
| 18:47.14 | mrhaag | yep. |
| 18:47.23 | mrhaag | Alienvault's "OSSIM" iso |
| 18:47.26 | gnarface | mrhaag: sorry, i really am |
| 18:47.32 | sney | I thought lenny's standard kernel was 2.6.26 |
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| 18:47.42 | sney | judd: kernels |
| 18:47.43 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.1-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.20-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.20-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.18-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 18:47.58 | mrhaag | yes, that's the lenny kernel I'm working with |
| 18:48.04 | mrhaag | 2.6.26-2-amd64 |
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| 18:48.08 | sney | well, there's 2.6.32 in lenny-backports, but still not quite 2.6.33 |
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| 18:48.37 | mrhaag | yes, after running through their installer it does update to 2.6.32 |
| 18:48.39 | mrhaag | so I'm stuck. |
| 18:48.54 | mrhaag | and HP only puts out packages for RedHat and SUSE |
| 18:49.13 | mrhaag | I even tried using alien to convert one of the RPMS |
| 18:49.25 | sney | yeah, that's rarely a useful solution |
| 18:49.37 | sney | ok. so what happens when you try to build the module |
| 18:49.53 | mrhaag | I tried compiling from source and it bombs out every time with errors I don't quite understand. |
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| 18:50.08 | gnarface | probably gcc bugs that were quashed half a decade ago |
| 18:50.20 | gnarface | but i'm just guessing |
| 18:50.22 | sney | paste the log |
| 18:50.26 | calrogman | That doesn't help, copy and paste the errors onto a pastebin and share it with us. |
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| 18:50.49 | mrhaag | alright, it'll take some time to put it together, but thank you all for the help. |
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| 18:51.46 | gnarface | lenny is the new IE 6 |
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| 18:51.51 | gnarface | takes a nap |
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| 18:54.09 | mrhaag | gnarface: I had that discussion with alienvault. they didn't seem to care. |
| 18:54.14 | mrhaag | http://pastebin.com/e6NCF6Tg |
| 18:55.29 | adrakoa | sorry, in this blogspot http://www.fonsoal.blogspot.com.es/ the second by the left side with one finger to the sky, which is his name? |
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| 18:55.39 | mrhaag | if something was obviously wrong with my build environment I'd probably miss it. I'm not so good at compiling things. |
| 18:55.57 | sney | 2.6.31.6? o_O |
| 18:56.09 | calrogman | The new IE 6. |
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| 18:56.32 | mrhaag | yes, the install disk starts out running 2.6.26-2, which is why I need to be able to compile it for both kernel versions. |
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| 18:56.39 | gnarface | mrhaag: i'm not familiar with this driver but it does look like the code is expecting headers definitions that its not finding, or something like that... |
| 18:56.45 | mrhaag | it ends up as 2.6.31 after installation |
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| 18:57.10 | gnarface | mrhaag: could be a version mismatch in the headers you do have though rather than missing ones |
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| 18:57.50 | gnarface | mrhaag: do you know for sure this driver even supports that kernel version? |
| 18:57.51 | mrhaag | do you mean a difference between the headers and the kernel version running while I'm compiling? |
| 18:58.16 | mrhaag | no, I have seen no documentation stating support for that kernel, and nothing saying it doesn't support it. |
| 18:58.36 | mrhaag | it's an odd situation, since most people running debian wouldn't need to bother with the old kernel. |
| 18:58.37 | gnarface | mrhaag: well, i actually specifically was just thinking of difference between headers the driver expects and the headers that are actually there... but now that you bring up that its also not the currently running kernel version, yea... that could be a complication too |
| 18:58.51 | webad_13 | openmotif is listed as non-free under http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/openmotif. My sources.list includes non-free (for unstable), yet apt-get install openmotif does not manage to find the package |
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| 18:59.01 | mrhaag | Linux alienvault 2.6.31.6 #3 SMP Tue Jul 13 06:50:17 EDT 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 18:59.05 | mrhaag | that's the currently running kernel |
| 18:59.40 | sney | judd: versions openmotif |
| 18:59.41 | judd | No package named 'openmotif' was found in i386. |
| 18:59.48 | calrogman | Did you try cognition, webad_13? |
| 18:59.53 | calrogman | ,versions motif-clients |
| 18:59.55 | judd | Package: motif-clients on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 2.2.3-4; sid/non-free: 2.3.3-5; squeeze/non-free: 2.3.3-5; wheezy/non-free: 2.3.3-5 |
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| 19:00.57 | sney | webad_13: also, that page you linked is for a source package. the 4 packages listed below the page header are the ones you can actually apt-get install |
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| 19:01.21 | gnarface | mrhaag: i wish i could help but i can't write or edit drivers. i wish you luck though. the official #debian advice i'm sure of course you know is to upgrade to squeeze at any cost |
| 19:01.29 | calrogman | !be a apt-cache barbie |
| 19:01.31 | dpkg | Aww, apt-cache is HARD! Let's go shopping, calrogman |
| 19:01.41 | mrhaag | gnarface: thanks so much. |
| 19:01.54 | sney | mrhaag: is there an older version of the hpsa driver you can try? |
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| 19:02.07 | mrhaag | no, it's a fairly new driver. |
| 19:02.33 | sney | are they still making new smart array scsi boards? I thought everything was SAS now |
| 19:02.37 | mrhaag | I've even seen evidence that I might be able to use the older cciss driver to operate the smartarray |
| 19:02.43 | webad_13 | sney: thank you, and thanks to everyone for a quick reponse |
| 19:02.50 | webad_13 | response* |
| 19:03.14 | sney | np |
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| 19:04.15 | mrhaag | here's a recent post from someone at HP regarding the driver: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2012/01/msg00977.html |
| 19:04.22 | mrhaag | but I don't see much followup from there. |
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| 19:04.47 | mr_burns | hello |
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| 19:04.58 | calrogman | Ahoy hoy, mr_burns. |
| 19:05.13 | mdhopkins | follow-up - i'm quite comfortable with scp and multiple terminal windows now; thanks for the help all. |
| 19:05.36 | solar_sea | Is the debian image for raspberry pi supported here ? |
| 19:05.57 | calrogman | It's Debian, so sure, why not. You have a problem? |
| 19:06.13 | mr_burns | how long is please a booting area at the beginning of partition with boot flag containing oem windows C: ? i saved recovery with dd, partition table with sfdisk and want to save the beginning of the C: to be able to fully restor computer later from saved recovery |
| 19:06.14 | rozie | solar_sea: it's not an official Debian image |
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| 19:06.17 | mr_burns | thanks |
| 19:06.41 | rozie | but maybe it's general Debian question, so ask a question |
| 19:06.59 | solar_sea | rozie: I'm aware of it. I can't find who makes it though :) |
| 19:07.13 | sney | I think it was just debootstrapped by someone on the raspberry pi forum |
| 19:07.19 | rozie | installing OS with unknown source is *bad* thing |
| 19:07.40 | sney | they might know in #debian-arm |
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| 19:08.39 | calrogman | That's how Ubuntu 12.04 was made too, sney. Then they went through and replaced all of the RGB hex triplets in the config files with #800080. |
| 19:08.54 | sney | heh |
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| 19:37.47 | jrgp | is there any benefit to using >| filename instead of > filename for pipe redirection? from what I can see >| seems to do the same thing |
| 19:40.26 | tvm | jrgp: i've never seen >|, what's the point ? pipe always sends the output buffer to the input of next command anyways |
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| 19:41.25 | calrogman | >| is like > with NOCLOBBER set |
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| 19:41.59 | tvm | oh. |
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| 19:42.03 | calrogman | noclobber* |
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| 19:42.25 | calrogman | So yeah, doing >| to a file that already exists will fail. |
| 19:43.24 | tvm | well, you usually control that inside your script or .bashrc |
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| 19:45.41 | calrogman | Yeah, you can use `set -C' to do the same thing, but if you want to switch between the two behaviours frequently in a script, it'd be more elegant to use >| where appropriate rather than set and unset -C throughout. |
| 19:47.14 | calrogman | And when I say elegant, I obviously mean "looks nicer", because writing good looking bash is *really* hard. |
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| 19:48.35 | tvm | agreed. |
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| 20:02.32 | darsie | Can I use a SD card in a mass storage card reader to create a bootable USB drive? |
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| 20:05.45 | GNU\colossus | darsie, depends on your BIOS. |
| 20:05.50 | GNU\colossus | if you're lucky, you can |
| 20:06.10 | hakr | i've never seen it work |
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| 20:06.24 | darsie | tests his luck |
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| 20:09.23 | darsie | seems to work. |
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| 20:10.25 | LittleFoot | hi |
| 20:10.46 | LittleFoot | cant install wine 1.4 |
| 20:10.49 | LittleFoot | FreeType 32-bit development files not found. Fonts will not be built. |
| 20:10.54 | LittleFoot | heeeeeeeeeelp |
| 20:11.11 | sney | where are you installing from and what debian version are you using |
| 20:11.36 | LittleFoot | debian 6.0.3 |
| 20:11.39 | LittleFoot | debian 6.0.5 |
| 20:12.01 | LittleFoot | 3.2 kernal |
| 20:12.15 | sney | where are you installing wine from... |
| 20:12.17 | LittleFoot | dl wine from wine |
| 20:12.30 | sney | source? debian packages? |
| 20:12.38 | LittleFoot | source |
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| 20:13.36 | sney | so it says you need the freetype development files, that would be some libfreetype*-dev package, you can find it with apt-cache search. OR install the packages from http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
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| 20:14.19 | ompaul | !wine |
| 20:14.19 | dpkg | Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . The beta Wine packages from lamaresh.net are not supported in #debian. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ http://www.winehq.org/ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See also <newer wine>. |
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| 20:14.20 | supaplex | how do I regenerate ssh host keys? I've purged and reinstalled ssh, but it yells there's no /etc/ssh/ host keys (I deleted them so duplicated machines would not share the same host keys) |
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| 20:15.16 | juniorsa | Hi, I have a customer that asked me to make a DNS TXT record for a domain with MS=ms7890900 can anyone tell me what the line should look like in the zone file? |
| 20:15.33 | LittleFoot | i dont see the unstable freetype pakage |
| 20:15.38 | darsie | supaplex: maybe dpkg-reconfigure ssh helps |
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| 20:16.12 | supaplex | tried that. ran fine, but didn't appear to do much. |
| 20:16.14 | dkr | supaplex: ssh-keygen -h something |
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| 20:17.51 | hakr | !g++ |
| 20:17.56 | hakr | :S |
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| 20:20.50 | Jhonyy1987 | If a cron job is configured to work each 5 minutes, but for some reason, on time takes longer, what happens? that the next one starts creating a new thread of execution of the same command? or just the next one is delayed until the current one is finished? |
| 20:21.06 | Jhonyy1987 | *one not on |
| 20:21.25 | cinex | hi. I'm having trouble getting the intel wireless module to work. (iwlagn). is there any known issues with squeeze? it doesn't create the device when I load it. |
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| 20:21.59 | cinex | Jhonyy1987: do u want it to run commands if it misses them ? |
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| 20:22.22 | cinex | Jhonyy1987: make a shell script to check if its already being executed. |
| 20:22.36 | supaplex | 0,5,10,15 ... !== */5 (all in the man page) |
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| 20:23.16 | Jhonyy1987 | cinex, no I want the next ones to wait until the current one is finished |
| 20:23.36 | cinex | Jhonyy1987: check out what supaplex said |
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| 20:24.00 | Jhonyy1987 | cinex, this is a command for syncing remote folders, so if for some reason (maybe a larg file) the current process doesn't finish, I don't want it to start again |
| 20:25.08 | Jhonyy1987 | supaplex, sorry didn't see your comment, so that means that the command will start at 5 no matter if the one at 0 is finished or not, right? |
| 20:25.08 | supaplex | Jhonyy1987: */5 in the crontab (last I recall) means wait 5min since last job finished. I'm typing from an embeded system, so you'll have to check the man page :) |
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| 20:27.59 | ruslanas | topic > thanx |
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| 20:44.35 | ersoy | hello |
| 20:44.45 | aswen | Hi, I like help with the following: I need to install usb-modeswitch-data. But I need the one that supports the huawei e352 dongle and that one seems to be the one in Wheezy. I run Squeeze. what would be the easiest and safest way to install that driver (is it in backports as well up-to-date enough?) |
| 20:44.45 | drega | exit |
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| 20:46.05 | craigevil | aswen, try the version in backports |
| 20:46.22 | ompaul | aswen: have you run wvdial just to be sure |
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| 20:52.38 | aswen | yeah, just found the one in backports |
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| 20:53.17 | aswen | now have to get it online |
| 20:53.24 | aswen | should I update any other packages? |
| 20:53.33 | oops | What is the wildcard character to select .foo.swp, .bar.swp, .swp but not .barswp? |
| 20:53.35 | ompaul | just make sure you have wvdial installed |
| 20:53.42 | aswen | ompaul, will try wvdial now |
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| 20:54.18 | aswen | ompaul, wvdial says no /dev/modem |
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| 20:54.41 | ompaul | aswen: you should have something like this: http://paste.debian.net/176497/ |
| 20:54.52 | ompaul | thats wvdial.conf |
| 20:55.16 | ompaul | you need to change the username / password and hs.vodafone.ie for whatever you do yourself |
| 20:55.41 | ompaul | aswen: with them right - wvdial as a normal user works |
| 20:55.45 | aswen | ah, will try to gen that. just created a mobile broadband connection in the network manager |
| 20:55.48 | ompaul | if you only installed the supporting software |
| 20:56.04 | ompaul | that might help you get user / pass and hs.whatever |
| 20:56.27 | aswen | give me a minute |
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| 20:56.50 | ompaul | aswen: I can't physics won't allow it ;-) |
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| 20:57.09 | aswen | ompaul, hahaha |
| 20:57.28 | aswen | then let me refrase: please wait a minute ;-) |
| 20:57.45 | jhutchins | aswen: phrase |
| 20:57.54 | ompaul | rephrase even |
| 20:58.07 | ompaul | pedants one and all |
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| 20:58.48 | jhutchins | That's why we're here, to teach people what's _RIGHT_. |
| 20:59.15 | ompaul | and we also do something with the debian way of being right |
| 20:59.28 | ompaul | which as we all know is more right than any other right ever |
| 20:59.52 | aswen | gehgehge |
| 21:00.16 | ompaul | aswen: may I ask whom your supplier is? |
| 21:00.59 | ompaul | I suppose I may, but the answer may not be forthcoming. |
| 21:01.21 | aswen | yes you may ask that |
| 21:01.50 | ompaul | aswen: who is the provider |
| 21:02.10 | aswen | ah, t-mobile ;-) |
| 21:02.24 | aswen | and here the output of daemon.log |
| 21:02.25 | aswen | http://paste.debian.net/176497/ |
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| 21:04.02 | gary2 | hey when i do a sudo apt-get xf86-video-ati says package not found ? |
| 21:04.11 | ompaul | aswen: http://www.mphone.co.uk/mms_wap_settings_t_mobile.html |
| 21:04.23 | gary2 | i made a livedvd with remastersys in virtualbox |
| 21:04.34 | ompaul | aswen: I don't know which tmobile you have but indicates they have made it stupider than it needs to be |
| 21:04.36 | gary2 | how do i install the opensource ati drivers ? |
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| 21:04.56 | gary2 | may i have some help here ? |
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| 21:05.13 | ompaul | !ati |
| 21:05.15 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 21:05.16 | jhutchins | gary2: That's not a Debian package. |
| 21:05.28 | aswen | I search the config file that was created by networkmanager |
| 21:05.47 | gary2 | ok may i ask how do i install the vesa drivers for x ? |
| 21:05.49 | aswen | and create the wvdial you advised with the tmobile settings I can find. |
| 21:05.58 | jhutchins | gary2: you can do an aptitude search ati and you may be able to find the correct package name. |
| 21:06.04 | gary2 | ok thanks man |
| 21:06.11 | craigevil | apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati |
| 21:06.21 | gary2 | aww |
| 21:06.29 | ompaul | aswen: you got more of a head start than I had when I had to invent that one :-) |
| 21:06.30 | jhutchins | craigevil: Thanks, my link to my debian box is down atm. |
| 21:06.31 | aswen | I reckon I should use the gprs settings or so. |
| 21:06.42 | aswen | yeah, thanks! |
| 21:07.14 | gary2 | thanks a bunch lads |
| 21:07.15 | gary2 | im just so use to arch linux.. but i like debian |
| 21:07.17 | gary2 | ok thanks |
| 21:07.25 | gary2 | ill try that out |
| 21:07.28 | gary2 | cheers for now |
| 21:07.29 | gary2 | :) |
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| 21:09.28 | hron84 | Hi, I have a debian lenny server, and I have a problem with bash completion. If I press tab (even for filename expansion) as user I got "sh: <( compgen -d -- '/' ): No such file or directory". As root completion works as expected. Is there a way to fix it? |
| 21:09.42 | hron84 | dist-upgrade is not a possible way |
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| 21:12.12 | gary2 | haha umm i do have the drivers install but my X say i have no res |
| 21:12.20 | jhutchins | Hm, what's "mode/#debian [+l 1264]? |
| 21:12.36 | supaplex | user limit probably |
| 21:12.47 | gary2 | because i made this iso in virtualbox using the virtualbox-additions |
| 21:12.51 | jhutchins | supaplex: Yeah, sounds about right. On a different client. |
| 21:13.02 | gary2 | is there a way i can setup ati in tty ? |
| 21:13.29 | frikinz | hron84: I partially remember getting the same problem. was linked to my user not having bash as shell in /etc/passwd |
| 21:13.55 | jhutchins | gary2: Yes, generally by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but you should allow it to autodetect. Do we understand that you are running a VM, or is this a hardware system? |
| 21:14.08 | hron84 | frikinz: hmm... i try out change shell |
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| 21:14.13 | gary2 | i'm running this on a live session |
| 21:14.18 | Supaplex | Irssi 0.8.15 (20100403) - http://irssi.org/ |
| 21:14.19 | gary2 | host live |
| 21:14.28 | jhutchins | gary2: On a VM or on hardware? |
| 21:14.30 | gary2 | i put the iso on a usb |
| 21:14.36 | gary2 | hardware sir |
| 21:14.38 | hron84 | frikinz: thanks, solved. |
| 21:14.59 | gary2 | i'm running it now in a live session but its running my hardware |
| 21:15.00 | jhutchins | gary2: That's too bad, the live systems usually at least fall back to vesa... |
| 21:15.35 | gary2 | and it doesn't :( it gives me no display when i load up and WM |
| 21:15.39 | jhutchins | gary2: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a lot to wade through, but it should give you some useful error message. |
| 21:15.55 | gary2 | and the screen just turns off so i had to alt+ctrl+f1 |
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| 21:16.37 | jhutchins | gary2: Did you get a blinking cursor or just a black screen? |
| 21:16.39 | gary2 | ok dude thanks for the help ill check it out and do my best to resolve this... |
| 21:16.56 | gary2 | blank screen and it turn off and my on button turn orange |
| 21:17.18 | jhutchins | gary2: We'll need to know which actual ATI chipset you have to help much further (and I'm not an ATI guru). |
| 21:17.34 | gary2 | i have AMD Radeon HD 6450 |
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| 21:19.01 | gary2 | you see i want to take out windows 7 and put linux back on but i dont want to use arch linux , i rather use debian stable squeeze because its stable |
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| 21:19.42 | gary2 | and i made this iso so i can have all my configuration setup .. it was suppose to be a distro but im gonna scratch this one out |
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| 21:20.09 | jhutchins | gary2: It looks like you need a driver that's not in regular squeeze but is in squeeze backports. |
| 21:20.10 | gary2 | well ill go and check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 21:20.22 | gary2 | i got the deb backports |
| 21:20.29 | gary2 | i put it in my sourcelist |
| 21:20.38 | jhutchins | gary2: xserver-xorg-video-radeon |
| 21:20.43 | jhutchins | ,versions xserver-xorg-video-radeon |
| 21:20.45 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-radeon on i386 -- lenny: 1:6.9.0-1+lenny4; squeeze: 1:6.13.1-2+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1:6.14.2-1~bpo60+1; sid: 1:6.14.4-5; wheezy: 1:6.14.4-5 |
| 21:20.46 | gary2 | ooo |
| 21:20.55 | gary2 | ok thanks man let me go to tty2 |
| 21:20.57 | gary2 | and try it |
| 21:21.32 | aswen | http://paste.debian.net/176499/ |
| 21:22.07 | gary2 | hmm i got it install ... i must have all them install because i done a xserver-xorg-video-all |
| 21:22.26 | gary2 | but i dont understand why it doesn't want to load up X ? |
| 21:22.42 | jhutchins | No, backports only install if you specify -t squeeze-backports |
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| 21:22.55 | gary2 | i done that |
| 21:23.03 | jhutchins | !tell gary2 about backports |
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| 21:23.57 | gary2 | ok ill try that then |
| 21:23.59 | gary2 | brb |
| 21:24.18 | jhutchins | !tell gary2 about bdo |
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| 21:25.04 | gary2 | ok sir that work :) |
| 21:25.09 | gary2 | its installing the drivers |
| 21:25.29 | gary2 | thank you very much i hope this resolve it |
| 21:26.07 | gary2 | been ALONG time since i use debian linux... i sort of went away from it because of ubuntu LOL but i love the stable release :) |
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| 21:26.39 | gary2 | arch linux is to much problems since it is a rolling system |
| 21:26.45 | nyuszika7h | Hi, I'm getting the following conflict when attempting to do a full-upgrade with squeeze and squeeze-backports (from http.debian.net). Any idea how to fix it? |
| 21:26.58 | nyuszika7h | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 21:27.00 | nyuszika7h | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.12 | nyuszika7h | It recommends to install busybox-syslogd. |
| 21:27.18 | nyuszika7h | Or dsyslog. |
| 21:27.27 | nyuszika7h | And so on. |
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| 21:29.19 | jhutchins | ,versions rsyslog |
| 21:29.20 | judd | Package: rsyslog on i386 -- lenny: 3.18.6-4; lenny-backports: 4.6.4-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 4.6.4-2; squeeze-backports: 5.8.9-1~bpo60+1; sid: 5.8.11-1+b1; wheezy: 5.8.11-1+b1 |
| 21:29.34 | jhutchins | ,versions initscripts |
| 21:29.35 | judd | Package: initscripts on i386 -- lenny: 2.86.ds1-61; squeeze: 2.88dsf-13.1+squeeze1; wheezy: 2.88dsf-22.1; sid: 2.88dsf-27 |
| 21:29.37 | LittleFoot | stupid wine |
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| 21:30.44 | gary2 | saying my hardware works , but it says no screen found ? |
| 21:31.03 | gary2 | that is what stopping me from loading into X |
| 21:31.21 | jhutchins | gary2: Do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
| 21:32.00 | init[dot]d | gary2 did you just upgrade? |
| 21:32.09 | gary2 | it says new file |
| 21:32.18 | gary2 | well no |
| 21:32.26 | gary2 | i dont have my debian install |
| 21:32.34 | gary2 | i'm trying to get it to load up into x |
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| 21:32.51 | init[dot]d | meh |
| 21:32.56 | gary2 | sudo i do a upgrade ? |
| 21:33.00 | gary2 | should*** |
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| 21:33.23 | gary2 | everything is upgraded |
| 21:33.29 | init[dot]d | when I upgraded from lenny to squeeze it removed all my xorg and gnome-desktop-environment stuff |
| 21:33.43 | gary2 | do i need gnome ? |
| 21:33.46 | gary2 | i dont want that |
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| 21:33.52 | gary2 | i have openbox |
| 21:34.14 | Supaplex | openbox > gnome (no gnome needed) |
| 21:34.16 | gary2 | and i use ~/.xinirc exec openbox-session |
| 21:34.39 | gary2 | xinitrc :P |
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| 21:35.47 | gary2 | its my screen it say "screen found" but not usable |
| 21:36.09 | init[dot]d | odd |
| 21:36.32 | init[dot]d | and you have a terminal shell or what does it do? |
| 21:36.57 | gary2 | i'm in a tty console |
| 21:37.14 | gary2 | i type startx and it fails to connect to xsever |
| 21:37.35 | init[dot]d | apt-get install xorg |
| 21:37.36 | gary2 | should i reinstall X ? |
| 21:37.41 | gary2 | alright |
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| 21:39.22 | GTRsdk | Can someone help me get zram setup on a system with 1 GB RAM, 2 CPU threads? |
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| 21:39.59 | gary2 | grrr |
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| 21:40.23 | gary2 | should i remove virtualbox-addition |
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| 21:40.57 | gary2 | thanks for all the help people ill figure it out :) ill go see #ati |
| 21:41.00 | gary2 | ok |
| 21:41.02 | gary2 | cheers |
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| 21:44.06 | webad_13 | I am trying to force i386 on amd64 (need libmotif4 32bit). After running dpkg --force-architecture -i libmotif4_2.3.3-5_i386.deb |
| 21:44.16 | webad_13 | i get http://pastebin.com/1Yske3TW |
| 21:44.26 | webad_13 | is there a way around it? |
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| 21:48.02 | init[dot]d | webad_13, have you done apt-get install ia32-libs |
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| 21:48.40 | martin3z | no truecrypt in debian repo? |
| 21:48.57 | webad_13 | init[dot]d: yep, up to date |
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| 21:49.42 | jhutchins | #ati is just gonna tell him his debian packages are too old. |
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| 21:50.04 | martin3z | any idea if i can crypt folder by some std soft, like bcrypt, mcrypt or ccrypt? |
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| 21:50.44 | GTRsdk | Is it safe to run upstart on Debian? |
| 21:51.00 | init[dot]d | webad_13, try apt-get remove libmotif4:amd64 then go again |
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| 21:53.51 | jhutchins | GTRsdk: why"? |
| 21:54.00 | webad_13 | init[dot]d: it shouldn't affect it, but I have tried once more (even purging) - still the same issue |
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| 21:54.35 | GTRsdk | looks like it is safe, so I'm going to try it... |
| 21:56.03 | init[dot]d | can you install libmotif4:32bit ? |
| 21:57.10 | webad_13 | init[dot]d: that is what I am trying to do - I haven't managed. I need libXm.so.4 |
| 21:57.17 | webad_13 | 32 bit |
| 21:57.21 | init[dot]d | ok |
| 21:57.42 | init[dot]d | apt-cache policy libmotif4:amd64 |
| 21:58.01 | N00bKulas27 | hello, is there something that we can use to emulate a dhcp server running on linux to give out vendor specific options? |
| 21:58.02 | webad_13 | tried to ln -s it to libXm.so.2, but wfcmgr failed |
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| 21:58.06 | init[dot]d | apt-cache policy libmotif4 |
| 21:58.09 | init[dot]d | I mean |
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| 21:59.06 | webad_13 | http://pastebin.com/330uRavS |
| 21:59.49 | N00bKulas27 | anybody? |
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| 22:01.08 | init[dot]d | webad_13, ok then apt-get install libmotif4 then remove / purge it then install the 32 bit one |
| 22:01.13 | jhutchins | N00bKulas27: Why not use a dhcp server? |
| 22:02.21 | webad_13 | init[dot]d: exactly what I tried in the last step - didn't work unfortunately |
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| 22:02.22 | N00bKulas27 | jhutchins: yeah, that's what am actually doing. setting up my dhcp server to give(offer) vendor specific option however I wanted to test it first before deploying it. |
| 22:02.23 | init[dot]d | wild |
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| 22:02.44 | webad_13 | init[dot]d: looks like 32bit is pooling some additional dependencies that are not within the usuall 32 libs... |
| 22:02.55 | jordanm | N00bKulas27: if its not on a network by itself, then it is "deployed" |
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| 22:03.25 | init[dot]d | libc6? |
| 22:03.32 | webad_13 | correct |
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| 22:03.57 | init[dot]d | can you install tha lib by itself? |
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| 22:04.01 | N00bKulas27 | jhutchins: so I wanted to know if there's a way to emulate a client(with vendor specific options) to request from my dhcp server the vendor specific options |
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| 22:04.04 | init[dot]d | or does it throw an error still |
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| 22:05.19 | bst | aswen: 'wvdialconf' command is your friend. Read man pages wvdial, wvdialconf and wvdial.conf. |
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| 22:09.46 | webad_13 | init[dot]d: just copied the lib itself wfcmg throws many errors but at least it opens up :). Thank you |
| 22:09.48 | webad_13 | don't know why I didn't try that in the first place |
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| 22:10.01 | init[dot]d | yar |
| 22:10.08 | init[dot]d | glad to be of help |
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| 22:21.00 | jimbo | I'm looking for help resolving a problem with broken packages, I am running debian on a non-standard system, because of the particular hardware I am using my kernel is pinned at 2.6.24.4, I made the mistake of trying to upgrade libc and other package sto testing... they could not configure becuase the kernel was out of date, but now I can't seem to downgrade them either as the packages are in a broken state and won't allow ne changes |
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| 22:21.51 | hetOrakel | hi i wanted to install `at' but with "apt-get install at" it shows a lot of mail dependecy's wich i do not want. |
| 22:21.52 | hetOrakel | [00:19] <IT_Sean> Okay... what about it? |
| 22:21.52 | hetOrakel | hi i wanted to install `at' but with "apt-get install at" it shows a lot of mail dependecy's wich i do not want. |
| 22:21.52 | hetOrakel | [00:19] <IT_Sean> Okay... what about it? |
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| 22:22.39 | hetOrakel | hi i wanted to install `at' but with "apt-get install at" it shows a lot of mail dependecy's wich i do not want. |
| 22:22.55 | hetOrakel | how can i install ONLY `at' |
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| 22:24.51 | JPP | hetOrakel: Dependancies are what they say on the tin, 'at' MUST have those installed alongside to run. |
| 22:25.00 | acu_ | Hey guys , since few days I am trying to install debian wheezy amd64 in a dv7 HP intel i7 laptop- after repetead failures I installed fedora 17 and works seamlessly, however I want to run debian, and I would appreciate if anyone can tell me what to do - again the install goes fine, if after installing debian wheezy in this i7 laptop I take the hard disk to another computer, everything runs fine, however in i7 when I boot, after GRUB |
| 22:25.00 | acu_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:26.03 | hetOrakel | strange, i managed to install it using aptitude. when i checked the depends. one by one i read at recommends mail, not "can not be installed without it" |
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| 22:26.24 | hetOrakel | it's working fine, but i would like to do it without using aptitude |
| 22:26.31 | pparadis | why? |
| 22:26.57 | hetOrakel | i don't like aptitude ;) |
| 22:27.05 | hetOrakel | i like apt-get |
| 22:27.08 | craigevil | hetOrakel, apt-get install --no-recommends at |
| 22:27.13 | pparadis | apt-get and aptitude are front ends that do virtually the same things, but aptitude is recommended these days. |
| 22:27.27 | pparadis | and yes, you can also avoid recommends and suggests with apt-get |
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| 22:27.37 | JPP | but not depends, surely? |
| 22:27.42 | pparadis | of course |
| 22:27.54 | pparadis | actual dependencies are not optional. |
| 22:28.06 | hetOrakel | at goes perfectly without the mail stuff |
| 22:28.11 | hetOrakel | i got the proof ;) |
| 22:28.16 | JPP | thought so...they would be pretty pointless if they were. |
| 22:28.17 | pparadis | um, nobody is saying it doesn't. |
| 22:28.28 | pparadis | "recommends" are not requirements. |
| 22:28.40 | JPP | infact, it doesn't even install them. |
| 22:28.45 | hetOrakel | craigevil thanks |
| 22:28.48 | JPP | it just says "recommended packages:" |
| 22:28.57 | JPP | but it won't actually force them. |
| 22:28.58 | craigevil | wonders why at wasn't already installed as it is part of the Standard task |
| 22:29.02 | hetOrakel | and it automticly selects them for me |
| 22:29.15 | hetOrakel | oh i was on a raspberry pi |
| 22:29.27 | hetOrakel | there isn't much by default |
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| 22:29.31 | pparadis | i believe default policy with apt-get is to install recommends but not suggests. |
| 22:29.43 | craigevil | bingo |
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| 22:29.50 | hetOrakel | ahh, is that configurarble |
| 22:29.54 | hetOrakel | when yes, where |
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| 22:29.57 | craigevil | i disable recommends in my apt.conf |
| 22:30.06 | pparadis | of coruse, either with the command line option or /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 22:30.10 | pparadis | course, even |
| 22:30.35 | craigevil | hetOrakel, add this to apt.conf , APT::Install-Recommends "0"; |
| 22:30.44 | pparadis | yepper |
| 22:30.59 | hetOrakel | hmmm there is no apt.conf there is a apt.conf.d |
| 22:31.06 | pparadis | create it. |
| 22:31.15 | hetOrakel | ok |
| 22:31.16 | pparadis | it's not there by default. |
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| 22:31.43 | hetOrakel | is that including the semicolon? |
| 22:31.48 | craigevil | yes |
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| 22:32.28 | hetOrakel | thank you guys |
| 22:32.32 | hetOrakel | it's working! |
| 22:33.18 | craigevil | hetOrakel, make actual apt.conf, http://paste.debian.net/176506/ |
| 22:33.24 | craigevil | whops make=my |
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| 22:36.34 | hetOrakel | thank you, i 'm gonna read something about this |
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| 22:39.19 | Supaplex | I'm hoping for something like iotop, but I don't want to see all the 0kb/s threads, and I'd like a print out every 5 seconds w/o clearing the screen (scroll it instead). Is there anything like that around? |
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| 22:41.33 | acu | can anyone help me get this anoying udev{403] :timeout messages out of my screen so I can type something ? |
| 22:41.34 | Supaplex | well I'll be, it took long enough for the man page to fire up. (slow embeded box) |
| 22:41.34 | pparadis | Supaplex: iotop -o -b |
| 22:41.34 | LittleFoot | any1 here having probls instaling wine |
| 22:41.34 | pparadis | Supaplex: also, man iotop |
| 22:41.34 | hetOrakel | hey supaplex, do you know the game? |
| 22:41.35 | jordanm | !tell LittleFoot about anyone |
| 22:41.35 | Supaplex | yup. about 500 bogomips on that box. :) |
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| 22:41.50 | Supaplex | hetOrakel: know it? I lost half my life playing it. ;) |
| 22:42.02 | hetOrakel | nice! |
| 22:43.33 | Supaplex | hetOrakel: one of the message boards I frequent has "level 111" as my location. :) |
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| 22:43.50 | Supaplex | !supaplex |
| 22:43.51 | dpkg | it has been said that supaplex is a classic game from the m$dos days featuring 111s of insanity. Now it's freeware, and has somewhere around 11 level seperate sets of (111) levels. a super hero one man support team, or see http://www.elmerproductions.com/sp/dlinst.html |
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| 22:46.25 | hetOrakel | is it possible to play on the pi ;) |
| 22:47.43 | LittleFoot | will i have any probs downgrading libasound2 |
| 22:47.48 | Supaplex | arm != x86 :p |
| 22:47.51 | LittleFoot | from .25 to .23 |
| 22:49.10 | hetOrakel | ha, i found this http://www.newsupaplex.pp.ru/sup_download_eng.html |
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| 22:51.29 | acu | the gdm3 is frozen, what do i need to press to go in tty (ctrl F1 ? |
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| 22:53.18 | engla | acu: Ctrl-Alt-F1 |
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| 23:02.13 | Maccer | Does anyone know where the lua api man entry is called and maybe what linker flag I should use for lua 5.1 in debian stable? |
| 23:02.31 | acu | how do you blacklist the accelerometer in wheezy ? (just read that maybe the cause why this i7 is dicking ) > |
| 23:03.30 | nutron | Seems that the only way I can get a patched libcairo2 is to get the source from the ubuntu repositories. I know this isn't #ubuntu, but does anyone know which libcairo2 is patched and which ubuntu release closely matches squeeze or wheezy? |
| 23:04.42 | engla | Maccer: it should be -llua5.1 |
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| 23:08.58 | Maccer | engla: I see. Yeah, thanks! :> |
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| 23:15.20 | acu | hey guys - I want to compile the proprietary ATI RADeon 6700 M driver - I need to installe aptitude linux-kernel-headers - does it pull with it gdd make etc ? |
| 23:15.39 | acu | gdd - gcc |
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| 23:16.34 | acu | hello, is anybody out there ? |
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| 23:18.08 | LittleFoot | wine has too many deps |
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| 23:19.02 | dvs | acu: You need build-essential to be able to compile kernel drivers |
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| 23:20.08 | acu | dvs: thanks, that is it, I guess I would not need the non-free repos, since I am going to download the file directly from ATI |
| 23:20.49 | dvs | acu: no I don't think so |
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| 23:22.44 | acu | dvs: thanks, I did not do this stuff since sometime, I needed before nvidia proprietary drivers, and now it seem the fglrx is not anynome in non-free for wheezy - and this i7 laptop is a pain in "somewhere"- to many whistles, uneccessary, who care for accelerometer ? |
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| 23:23.52 | dvs | acu: the fglrx driver is not compatible with the 3.2 kernel. |
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| 23:24.07 | kevlarman | dvs: wat? yes it is |
| 23:24.11 | acu | I have to choose between using Debian Wheezy with proprietary ATI or use Fedora |
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| 23:24.34 | kevlarman | dvs: you need the beta driver for xorg 1.12 support |
| 23:24.40 | acu | kevlarman, it was not there few days ago |
| 23:24.40 | dvs | kevlarman: That's what Ive been told as to why it isn't in the wheezy repo |
| 23:24.59 | kevlarman | dvs: that doesn't explain all the arch users running it on a 3.4 |
| 23:25.22 | kevlarman | dvs: now the lack of xorg 1.12 support is an issue in the currently released version |
| 23:25.24 | acu | wait guys- so I can just downloades as deb and dpkg --install ? |
| 23:25.46 | acu | in anycase, it sucks big time |
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| 23:34.11 | l1t | I'm trying to stop apache2 on debian. I try /etc/init.d/apache2 stop . I nmap localhost it's still there. I try killing the process with -9 as root it respawns as a new process. Please help. |
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| 23:35.58 | acu | !kilall |
| 23:36.04 | acu | !killall |
| 23:36.04 | dpkg | i heard killall is a bad idea on non GNU platforms, or ok on BSD, too |
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| 23:37.18 | engla | pkill should work everywhere |
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| 23:37.30 | l1t | can I get an example of the command please |
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| 23:38.28 | bigterd | does hdparm support writing a range of badsectores with one command? instead of one sector for every command? |
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| 23:39.24 | l1t | acu: thanks it worked |
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| 23:40.04 | ampharos | I have two disks: I want one for /boot and the other for / and swap, how can I accomplish this; does / need to be bootable? |
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| 23:45.04 | dvs | ampharos: no |
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| 23:48.52 | acu | how long should last a postprocessing kernel module whaen instlling a proprietary driver ? |
| 23:49.06 | sney | what? |
| 23:49.27 | acu | I am compiling the driver for ATI, and it seem stack at 89% |
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| 23:49.53 | acu | it is true, I am ssh ing into the machine, and the machine is in dgm |
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