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| 00:11.08 | rgenito | has anyone here ever installed debian from a USB external optical drive? |
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| 00:11.37 | rgenito | i'm assuming all i need to do is just need to specify the BIOS to boot from USB... |
| 00:11.50 | rgenito | but if anyone knows for sure, it'd be much appreciated before i go buy an external USB optical drive :D |
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| 00:19.18 | LittleFoot | finaly wine is back!!!!!!! |
| 00:19.36 | LittleFoot | gah dat wuz gey |
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| 00:20.14 | LittleFoot | almost died |
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| 00:21.22 | rgenito | LittleFoot, how did wine disappear? |
| 00:21.29 | rgenito | was it not with debian for a while or something? |
| 00:21.33 | rgenito | is new to debian |
| 00:22.15 | LittleFoot | wen i updated my nvidia drivers and kernil wine disapeared |
| 00:22.27 | LittleFoot | i also updated to 6.0.5 |
| 00:22.37 | LittleFoot | im so confuz |
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| 00:26.22 | rgenito | LittleFoot, ah, makes sense |
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| 00:27.49 | acu | hey guys - I compiled the ATI proprietary driver, and all what I see is a blank black screen what should I do ? |
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| 00:29.13 | nevyn | !ati |
| 00:29.14 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 00:32.56 | acu | how would I know which Xorg version is in wheezy ? It is just not working, this i7 laptop is a kill - |
| 00:33.33 | sney | !version |
| 00:33.33 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_ , or run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Miscellaneous commands: try --version on the command. For the version of Debian, ask me about <debian suite>. |
| 00:33.36 | daemonkeeper | judd: versions xserver-xorg |
| 00:33.37 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.3+20; squeeze: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1:7.6+8~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:7.6+13; sid: 1:7.7+1 |
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| 00:37.49 | arthurb | Hey all. Updated my wheezy today and there's a configuration issue with libblas. It's very similar to what's described in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=659784 |
| 00:38.22 | arthurb | except I'm not using sid or experimental sources, just the testing |
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| 01:12.15 | dvs | !qotd47 |
| 01:12.15 | dpkg | <g4lt> okay, in a fit of complete irony, reportbug is puking on upgrade |
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| 01:16.02 | acu | so my i7 screws with wheezy are because of xserver-xorg ? - If I change repos to sid, reinstall xserver-xorg - recompile the driver - and go back to wheezy will be OK ? |
| 01:16.13 | acu | i7/ATI |
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| 01:19.15 | dvs | acu: You've get sid now. |
| 01:19.19 | dvs | *got |
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| 01:23.37 | acu | dvs: I see that the kernel is 6.20.3 on sid |
| 01:23.56 | dvs | ,kernel |
| 01:23.57 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.1-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.20-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.20-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.18-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 01:24.20 | dvs | 3.2.0-2 |
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| 01:28.34 | cockroach | hmm, i just dist-upgraded from squeeze to wheezy and now my /etc/postgres is empty (postgresql-9.1 is installed though). did i miss anything? |
| 01:29.02 | stew | cockroach: you missed that it is /etc/postgresql? |
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| 01:29.26 | cockroach | stew: heh, damn, i suck at typing. i was talking about /etc/postgresql |
| 01:29.38 | stew | everyone say YAY themill, on of our esteemed ops is now a DD! |
| 01:29.49 | cockroach | \o/ |
| 01:29.52 | jparkton | very nice |
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| 01:29.58 | jparkton | which? |
| 01:30.09 | pparadis | 21:29 < stew> everyone say YAY themill, on of our esteemed ops is now a DD! |
| 01:30.27 | stew | and this will make his console beep and keep him up too late! |
| 01:30.35 | pparadis | yes! |
| 01:30.41 | jparkton | win |
| 01:31.08 | stew | cockroach: does "pg_lsclusters" list any clusters? |
| 01:31.55 | cockroach | stew: nah, i can't initialize my cluster atm (which was why i tried upgrading to testing). basically an issue with running postgres inside bsd jails. |
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| 01:32.39 | cockroach | stew: but i didn't expect that to affect my config files :) |
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| 01:34.14 | stew | cockroach: well, the config file correspond directly to the existing cluster |
| 01:34.24 | stew | s |
| 01:34.42 | cockroach | stew: ah, so if i don't have any active clusters i don't have any config files? |
| 01:34.47 | stew | yes |
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| 01:35.06 | stew | you'll have /etc/postgresql/$version/$clustername for each cluster |
| 01:35.28 | cockroach | hmn, the thing is, pg_createcluster suggests messing with postgres' shared memory settings but i wouldn't know how if i don't have any config files... |
| 01:36.06 | pfred1 | had chinese buffet for lunch today so has had a few active clusters |
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| 01:36.46 | stew | cockroach: talking about shmmax? or what exactly? |
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| 01:36.51 | jparkton | is there something similar to git for sourceforge projects? |
| 01:37.01 | jparkton | or just simple upload / download |
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| 01:37.22 | cockroach | stew: it says "To reduce the request size (currently 2146304 bytes), reduce PostgreSQL's shared memory usage, perhaps by reducing shared_buffers or max_connections." |
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| 01:38.13 | stew | cockroach: what does "cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax" say? |
| 01:38.16 | cockroach | stew: guess i was going to look at the available options and start tweaking until it works or i get sleepy :) |
| 01:38.19 | pparadis | jparkton: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Git |
| 01:38.19 | acu | is exim working? It is kind of strange why Postfix is not the default MTA |
| 01:38.30 | cockroach | stew: "No such file or directory" :) |
| 01:38.41 | cockroach | stew: i am inside a freebsd jail |
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| 01:39.44 | pparadis | acu: exim has been the default debain mta for a long time. |
| 01:39.53 | pparadis | s/debain/debian/ |
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| 01:40.09 | stew | acu: at the time that exim was made the default MTA, postfix was not yet packaged for debian |
| 01:40.19 | stew | acu: (it was a LONG time ago) |
| 01:40.53 | stew | cockroach: can you figure out what shmmax is? |
| 01:40.57 | acu | stew and pparadis thanks, just wondering, I use postfix for mai mail, and somehow never made exim work (perhaps it requires some extra neurons) :) |
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| 01:41.20 | cockroach | stew: sysctl says "kern.ipc.shmmax: 536870912" |
| 01:41.42 | pparadis | either exim or postfix are fine. i tend to use exim for lightweight send-only configurations and postfix for inbound/outbound. |
| 01:41.50 | stew | hmm, that is a lot |
| 01:41.58 | cockroach | stew: ... which seems to be below the value that postgres wanted :( |
| 01:42.04 | cockroach | the OTHER below :) |
| 01:42.10 | stew | no, that is a lot |
| 01:42.12 | cockroach | yup |
| 01:42.19 | cockroach | again, failing at words :) |
| 01:42.21 | stew | no, its not below |
| 01:42.27 | stew | ok |
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| 01:43.29 | cockroach | the thing is, the shmget system call fails which is a known issue in freebsd jails but i think i configured everything the way it is explained on the intertubes |
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| 01:49.20 | Mr_Queue | $ curl -I ksplice.com |
| 01:49.22 | Mr_Queue | Server: Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) |
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| 01:51.22 | Mr_Queue | You would have thought they would be selling ksplice off of a server running their own Linux no? |
| 01:51.36 | acu | hey guys - is there a chance that the wheezy ATI Xorg problem is going to be fixed ? |
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| 01:53.38 | acu | I wonder, all ATI vga cards have this problem in wheezy ? |
| 01:54.13 | cockroach | acu: what problem? my radeon works great with wheezy |
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| 01:54.35 | amphorion | acu: ATI issue??? i don't have problems... |
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| 01:56.11 | pparadis | Mr_Queue: |
| 01:56.11 | pparadis | root@oak:~# apt-cache search ksplice |
| 01:56.12 | pparadis | ksplice - Patching live kernel without having to reboot |
| 01:57.21 | dvs | cockroach, amphorion: with the fglrx driver? |
| 01:57.35 | RobertAkiraFox | pparadis:nice info thnks |
| 01:57.37 | cockroach | dvs: no, with the radeon driver |
| 01:57.52 | acu | cockroach, I am trying to run wheezy amd64 in a intel i7 HP laptop since maybe 5 days - the install goes fine, but when I reboot the gdm hangs (of course there are few screwy messages ) but I cannot make it work, I have no GNOME or KDE, and do not know what to do, again, it is strange that Fedora17 works flawlesly in the same bloody laptop (and by the way, I tried without and with non-free repos, fimrware non-free, I even compile the p |
| 01:57.52 | acu | roprietary driver from ATI website, it still sucks, and I really need this laptop to work asap |
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| 01:58.19 | civillian | when I run apt-get update I see many references to translation services, ie Translation-zh. I only need en, can I disable the rest somehow? |
| 01:59.11 | cockroach | acu: oh, that sounds rather annoying. do you see the bootup messages (or logo or whatever) before gdm fails to start? |
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| 01:59.18 | cockroach | acu: (brb) |
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| 01:59.59 | acu | cockroach, yes I see the messages, and I need to get through ssh to the laptop to manipulate anything |
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| 02:02.43 | amphorion | mhhh.... I think your laptop is tooo new.... |
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| 02:03.37 | amphorion | the fglrx would not work with wheezy's xorg... and radeon did not support your card... |
| 02:03.56 | acu | it seems like amphorion |
| 02:04.06 | dvs | ... |
| 02:04.16 | acu | I was thinking I should perhaps download an older proprietary version ? |
| 02:04.16 | cockroach | acu: you can always try building the radeon driver yourself |
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| 02:04.34 | acu | cockroach: well this is what I did, |
| 02:04.44 | cockroach | acu: the latest git version? |
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| 02:05.53 | Mr_Queue | pparadis, I don't think that package does what you think it does. |
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| 02:06.18 | acu | this is what I used (both the stable and beta) http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx |
| 02:06.36 | pparadis | Mr_Queue: really? explain what it does. |
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| 02:07.11 | cockroach | acu: ah, that. i would recommend using the radeon driver from http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati instead (fglrx has never really worked for me, and i tried for what feels like decades) :) |
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| 02:07.23 | Mr_Queue | pparadis, Looks like nothing, it's there for because it made the freeze. |
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| 02:08.15 | pparadis | definitely recalls the acquisition of ksplice by oracle, but doesn't actually use that stuff, and is open to hearing that it does nothing nowadays. |
| 02:08.16 | acu | cockroach: this is my card --- > ati radeon 6700M |
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| 02:09.14 | acu | cockroach: but your link is for intelligent people only |
| 02:09.20 | acu | :) |
| 02:09.21 | cockroach | acu: :) |
| 02:09.40 | cockroach | acu: have you had a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638665 ? |
| 02:09.43 | acu | let me see if my little baby brain can untangle that puzzle |
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| 02:10.23 | cockroach | (it's a lengthy discussion, i didn't read everything but it seems to be resolved) |
| 02:10.25 | pparadis | Mr_Queue: that said, i'm confident ksplice can indeed be used on debian (and debian-based) systems --> http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/install |
| 02:10.45 | pparadis | Mr_Queue: so the point appears to stand in any event. |
| 02:11.00 | pparadis | is still open to being shown that he has erred somehow. |
| 02:11.02 | Mr_Queue | pparadis, you must pay for it to use it on Debian. |
| 02:11.14 | pparadis | Mr_Queue: right. that's not in dispute. |
| 02:11.38 | Mr_Queue | It's just comical they chose a Debian server to sell Ksplice from. |
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| 02:11.59 | Mr_Queue | While it's free for Desktops and their Linux distro. |
| 02:12.14 | Mr_Queue | Well, Ubuntu and Fedora desktops. |
| 02:12.26 | pparadis | Mr_Queue: your original point seems to have been that you were surprised that the ksplice folks were hosting their stuff on debian. in all honesty, that doesn't terribly surprise me. it's just a choice made by whoever is running that side of their stuff. |
| 02:12.31 | acu | cockroach, yes I have to read it, I spent way too much time to make a machine working, it is insane |
| 02:13.03 | cockroach | acu: heh, feels familiar. but it will be awesome once you get it to work :) |
| 02:13.29 | Mr_Queue | pparadis, So it only looks to be $2,299 a year to use it on Debian.. Simply amazing. |
| 02:13.51 | pparadis | hey, i wouldn't use it, but somebody is. |
| 02:14.52 | Mr_Queue | It has it's place, I don't need it.. I was just looking more into it. |
| 02:15.23 | acu | cockroach: I thought those times are past beyond potato, yet here we are 2012 ... this also tells about how scattered and adhd like is the whole linux community, it is so spread that the universe is reinvented at each turn... anyhow, l have to read those comments (they were in 2011) |
| 02:16.41 | cockroach | acu: oh, didn't see the year, thought it was from this april. so euhm, do you get any interesting error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? (please use pastebin, don't paste in channel) |
| 02:16.59 | cockroach | acu: also, no need to insult the community |
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| 02:17.17 | stew | acu: what does this have to do with the linux community? |
| 02:17.41 | pfred1 | cockroach http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iYoR0CreWYg/T97WNKbc3zI/AAAAAAAABXI/1a9DQNm3Ric/s1600/Linus-Torvalds-Nvidia-fuck-you.jpg |
| 02:17.43 | stew | acu: buy machines with intel graphics, they contribute their drivers to the community |
| 02:17.52 | cockroach | pfred1: heh yep |
| 02:17.55 | Mr_Queue | acu, My servers run great. |
| 02:18.07 | Mr_Queue | My laptop runs well enough to get on the servers. |
| 02:18.34 | Mr_Queue | That's about it.. |
| 02:20.12 | acu | cockroach, I am looking at top and one of the prozess is zombie |
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| 02:20.25 | acu | how can I see that process |
| 02:20.37 | cockroach | acu: that usually happens when there are hardware issues |
| 02:20.47 | cockroach | acu: i would look at the Xorg log for more information |
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| 02:21.00 | acu | gdm3 uses 70% of the cpu - we are talking about an i7 here |
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| 02:22.29 | adrakoa | any advice about virtual machine in Linux? I knew Xen... |
| 02:23.06 | pparadis | kvm |
| 02:23.12 | cockroach | adrakoa: virtualbox works nicely but is non-free |
| 02:23.17 | pparadis | but it really depends on your needs. i use the hell out of kvm. |
| 02:23.49 | acu | !paste |
| 02:23.50 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 02:23.56 | cockroach | ah also, I somehow misread Xen as vmware, thought you were talking about desktop stuff. never mind then :) |
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| 02:24.26 | pparadis | adrakoa: do a google query for: debian 6 kvm howto |
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| 02:25.02 | acu | cockroach, here it is http://paste.debian.net/176538/ |
| 02:25.35 | pparadis | acu: btw, you can talk to dpkg in /query to avoid extra lines in the channel here. |
| 02:26.15 | acu | adrakoa: you can install kvm and virt manager: _>>>> aptitude instal qemu-kvm virt-manager >>>> afterwards adduser acu libvirt ------ logout login start the virtual manager GUI |
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| 02:26.36 | cockroach | acu: could you try with the radeon (non-fglrx) driver instead and see what the error message is then? |
| 02:26.37 | dvs | Fatal server error: |
| 02:26.37 | dvs | [ 175.924] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot find a free VT |
| 02:26.52 | acu | dvs: what does it mean |
| 02:27.02 | cockroach | dvs: google seems to think that that error usually happens with fglrx |
| 02:27.11 | dvs | ah |
| 02:27.15 | pparadis | acu: ugh, installing virt-manager on a server system (if that's the intended use) is not the best route. |
| 02:27.25 | dvs | doesn't have to worry about it. |
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| 02:29.13 | acu | pparadis, perhaps, you can access sessions remotely, and always virsh is the cli alternative to virt-manager, but too many neurons requiered for hipocampal region to do cli everything :) |
| 02:29.24 | cockroach | acu: also, somebody else had the same problem on http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/05/msg01465.html but it doesn't look like anyone found a solution (yet) |
| 02:30.24 | acu | cockroach, at the beginning I thought it was my message :) since I agonize about this since few days |
| 02:30.42 | cockroach | :) |
| 02:31.28 | acu | cockroach: this laptop has some other bloody extras an accelerometer and this has intel wifi remote vga connection, I wonder if that is the built in the i7 and whether that requires some special drivers |
| 02:31.49 | cockroach | wtf is a "wifi remote vga connection"? |
| 02:31.56 | cockroach | sounds like magic to me :) |
| 02:33.06 | acu | lol, sorry, few molecules of glucose left, is quite draining, I wanted to use this laptop to setup few virtual machines and transfer them when I am done, and I wanted to use wheezy, but I cannot... |
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| 02:34.08 | acu | intel widi |
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| 02:36.38 | acu | cockroach: the last link you gave me show at least the gnome was working (in the fallback mode) that would be awesome (I could use kde too) but mine does not do that |
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| 03:06.10 | deadmund | What mono package do I need to run .net applications? |
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| 03:06.28 | jetscreamer | !epub |
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| 03:07.11 | karlpinc | bigterd: Check out dd. |
| 03:07.56 | karlpinc | bigterd: (And be sure you have a backup.) |
| 03:08.15 | bigterd | karlpinc, testing mdadm |
| 03:08.52 | karlpinc | bigterd: bonnie++, or maybe badblocks? |
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| 03:11.16 | bigterd | karlpinc, is dd able to read/write data from a drive that's been locked? ,ie ata passworded? |
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| 03:17.15 | kfc | when i boot my screen clicks off and on several times. green light stays on at monitor. then i have to make resolution adjustment for it to be aligned correctly. I do not know what is wrong |
| 03:17.39 | kfc | i loaded nvidia kernel and that did nothing but give me a dual boot |
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| 03:18.31 | acu | OK, I am still confused, If the ATI driver fglrx is messed up because of the current Xorg version in Wheezy, is there an older version of fglrx which works? I mean the incompatibility is due to minor differences ? |
| 03:18.40 | gnarface | bigterd: i would assume yes, if you're root or some user that has raw access to the device node, but i don't know for sure |
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| 03:19.06 | gnarface | bigterd: you can use /dev/zero as your input file with dd |
| 03:19.24 | ak5 | hi my php scripts aren't executing on my webserver, instead, when I navigate to them in a browser, it asks to download them? |
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| 03:19.36 | bigterd | yeah, i got a mountian of ata drives from old xbox consoles, the ata lock was stored on the motherboard, which, obviously, i don't havfe anymore.. |
| 03:19.44 | acu | bigterd, yes, dd is low level - so it does not care what is on the hard |
| 03:19.49 | bigterd | 15 200gb drives holding down paper and collecting dust. |
| 03:20.12 | acu | sell them |
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| 03:20.17 | gnarface | so you decided to make them hold down paper and generate heat instead? neato |
| 03:20.38 | bigterd | acu sell them? who's going to buy drives that are locked? |
| 03:20.53 | bigterd | gnarface, they aren't all hooked up yet, still working on a way to pull the ata protection from the firmware |
| 03:20.59 | boobah | burn them |
| 03:21.10 | bigterd | wtf? i'd like to use them.... |
| 03:21.15 | bigterd | shakes his head |
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| 03:21.57 | gnarface | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever ... this should blank the shit out of any drive |
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| 03:22.02 | gnarface | will not happen quicly though |
| 03:22.05 | gnarface | quickly* |
| 03:22.13 | kci | any ideas on the screen resolution issue? |
| 03:22.17 | acu | what do you mean they are locked ? |
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| 03:22.39 | gnarface | acu: probably some xbox-specific firmware thing that's no longer even relevant now that he's pulled them off the boards |
| 03:22.40 | acu | you just dd them (disk destroyer) |
| 03:22.42 | acu | !dd |
| 03:22.43 | dpkg | somebody said dd was an abbreviation for Debian Developer, or a utility for the low-level copying and conversion of raw data: man dd, dd if=/foo/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 to produce a bootable floppy, dd if=/dev/hdc of=image.iso to make an image of a CD/DVD. See also <win32 dd>, <ddrescue>, <gddrescue>. |
| 03:23.37 | bigterd | acu, drive won't accept any ata commands until it's unlocked... |
| 03:23.42 | bigterd | gnarface, yup. |
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| 03:24.44 | bigterd | i haven't tried dd yet, but nothing with hdparm won't budge, it'll pull the firmware, and that's it. |
| 03:25.03 | acu | first time I heard about this stuff, I know the old hard disk have pin for read only, but unless they are proprietary... |
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| 03:25.29 | bigterd | naw, they're not proprietary |
| 03:25.34 | bigterd | WD's.. |
| 03:25.47 | kci | by locked do you mean encrypted and the key is on the mb of the xbox? |
| 03:26.17 | gnarface | kci: i suspect that is the actual case. i doubt he actually knows |
| 03:26.21 | bigterd | kci, yup. i wouldn't say encrypted, but yes, it was on the mb of the xbox |
| 03:26.29 | gnarface | none of us are gonna find out really until he dd's the things though |
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| 03:26.55 | bigterd | :/ you seriously think dd will walk over the ata unlock? |
| 03:27.13 | acu | bigterd: encryption is higher level layer- you dd the disk, then you can recreate partitions and format them, motherboard is irrelevant |
| 03:27.20 | gnarface | if its either part of the filesystem or implemented separately (at the motherboard level) sure, why not? |
| 03:27.24 | gnarface | bigterd: ^^ |
| 03:27.25 | kci | gnarface: do you have a clue about the resolution issue i have stated above |
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| 03:27.28 | bigterd | hmmmm |
| 03:27.31 | bigterd | grabs more beer |
| 03:27.54 | acu | what was the question kci ? |
| 03:28.16 | gnarface | kci: just a guess, but you have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you're relying on Xorg's fancy new auto-detection capabilities? |
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| 03:29.17 | gnarface | kci: (hint: they're broken; manually lock down your resolution and horizontal+vertical refresh ranges) |
| 03:29.29 | kci | acu: when i boot my screen clicks off and on several times. green light stays on at monitor. then i have to make resolution adjustment for it to be aligned correctly. i loaded nvidia kernel and tha tdid nothing but give me a dual boot |
| 03:29.30 | bigterd | i figured it was beyond dd, i figuredf it was an ATA specification |
| 03:30.25 | gnarface | bigterd: if it was i would imagine that it would fail pretty quickly when you tried to dd |
| 03:30.58 | kci | gnarface: where can I get a good example of the xorg.conf for squeeze since by default it does not reference that file anymore |
| 03:31.01 | acu | when you boot and you are where ? past GRUB ? |
| 03:31.13 | acu | do you have the login in gnome or kdm ? |
| 03:31.17 | acu | kci |
| 03:31.43 | gnarface | kci: best way probably is to just use Xorg -configure to generate one, that way your starting point at least attempted to be tuned for your hardware (you'll still probably have to fix the resolutions+refresh ranges) |
| 03:32.04 | kci | acu: login is in gdm3 and the clicking on and off is after the initial grub screen |
| 03:32.11 | gnarface | kci: if you're using the nvidia binary drivers use their tool instead |
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| 03:32.32 | acu | kci: do you see the login screen ? |
| 03:32.54 | kci | acu: yes the initial grub screen |
| 03:33.12 | acu | kci: is gdm loaded ? |
| 03:33.38 | kci | acu: yes gdm3 loads |
| 03:33.47 | acu | in anycase, some refresh rate and/or resolution, you need to go and change in your properties, what do you use ? what debian distro |
| 03:34.22 | kci | acu: now you lost me what do you mean by debian distro |
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| 03:34.43 | acu | debian version - it was a freudian slip :) _ I have a hunch that you use debian derivative :) |
| 03:34.58 | acu | but it does not matter, we are good guys here |
| 03:35.22 | acu | kci, your problem is trivial compared to mine |
| 03:36.03 | kci | acu: i am sure and the version is squeeze |
| 03:36.14 | acu | I see, it should be easy then |
| 03:36.20 | bigterd | massive screen flood from the kernel as it boots, failed ata commands |
| 03:36.47 | kci | acu: what should i do at command prompt |
| 03:36.56 | acu | !xrandr |
| 03:36.57 | dpkg | hmm... xrandr is a command-line interface to the <RandR> extension; used to set the screen size, orientation and/or reflection. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
| 03:37.35 | acu | kci: also if you delete the xorg.conf and reboot, a new one will be created |
| 03:38.03 | acu | but just to make sure, make a copy of it, or simply rename it and reboot |
| 03:38.05 | ak5 | hi my php scripts aren't executing on my webserver, instead, when I navigate to them in a browser, it asks to download them? |
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| 03:39.55 | kci | acu: well it went back to the bar with applications places system being 1/4 inch lower and when i go to monitor and then choose 800X600 and then reverse to original it will be back like it should be |
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| 03:41.42 | ksm | Offtopic, but somewhat funny, thought you guys might chuckle at it: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/34991499/link/1340766740117.png |
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| 03:42.13 | kci | well need to shut down for the night chat more tomorrow |
| 03:42.13 | acu | kci: are you in squeeze ? - YOu can go to SYSTEM - PREFERENES - MONITORS - and there is the resolution and refresh ratae - but I guess now it works ? |
| 03:42.20 | jparkton | ak5 do you have apache2 installed? |
| 03:43.02 | kci | acu: yes i go there and change to 800X600 and then choose restore to previous and it is like it should be |
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| 03:43.41 | kci | acu: and that is what i have to do every boot or wakeup from sleep |
| 03:43.46 | acu | kci: make sure the monitor is properly pluged in the vga etc, sometimes it may missbehave, - but I gusess is working |
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| 03:44.11 | kci | acu: connections are a ok |
| 03:44.23 | acu | if you setup the refresh rate properly, it will be remembered |
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| 03:44.28 | acu | as I told you before |
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| 03:44.52 | kci | acu: the refresh is at 60 what should it be at |
| 03:45.05 | acu | ak5: are you here |
| 03:45.22 | acu | ak5: you have no php running - install the php |
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| 03:45.55 | acu | also, make sure the right access to the files are in place ak5 |
| 03:46.15 | adrakoa | bye |
| 03:46.22 | acu | bye adrakoa |
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| 03:47.31 | acu | hey guys is any desktop environment which does not require xorg ? |
| 03:47.46 | bigterd | about 3 trillion lines of this |
| 03:47.48 | bigterd | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.48 | bigterd | [ 108.273195] ata2.00: cmd c8/00:02:08:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma 1024 in |
| 03:47.48 | bigterd | [ 108.273197] res 51/04:02:08:00:00/04:00:17:00:00/e0 Emask 0x1 (device error) |
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| 03:47.50 | sney | not a desktop environment |
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| 03:47.58 | bigterd | oops |
| 03:48.02 | sney | but you can use emacs or tmux as a window manager |
| 03:48.06 | sney | bigterd, hardware problem |
| 03:48.18 | acu | sney: you are still around :) |
| 03:48.31 | sney | you *might* be able to get at that disk if you force PIO mode in the bios... it'll be slow, but no DMA to break |
| 03:48.33 | acu | I could not make this i7 laptop ATI work |
| 03:48.34 | bigterd | sney, you sure? all 12 drives? all non xbox drives work like a peach on the same cable and controller... |
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| 03:48.57 | sney | oh, xbox drive? funny, I was doing the same yesterday. I think they did something to the disk firmware to make it hard to access from a PC |
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| 03:49.13 | sney | I couldn't get windows to see it either. Maybe one of those USB-ATA adapters would work |
| 03:49.59 | bigterd | sney, yeah, i got a bunch of them i'd like to use, but they refuse to accept any commands... |
| 03:50.21 | bigterd | i found some windows software that sees it, says it tries to unlock, but then says it needs to be taken in and done professionall... |
| 03:50.45 | bigterd | i did run across some msdos software boot disk (floppy) that people used to pull firmware binary and read the password.... |
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| 03:51.29 | bigterd | hdd guru website, |
| 03:51.31 | sney | acu, I think you might just want to put that laptop in a drawer for a month or two and then try again when more driver development has been done |
| 03:51.44 | ak5 | jparkton: I have it installed, yes |
| 03:51.50 | ak5 | acu: sorry, I am now |
| 03:52.23 | ak5 | acu I just updated to the newest version of php5 |
| 03:52.27 | acu | ak5: it will work, you need php, and right acccess |
| 03:52.29 | bigterd | sney, standard pc reads fine....hdparm pulls all information |
| 03:52.30 | bigterd | http://pastebin.com/HZqQiLd0 |
| 03:52.38 | bigterd | even tells me it's locked... |
| 03:52.41 | bigterd | :/ |
| 03:52.44 | acu | make sure ls -l shows you right access to the folders |
| 03:52.47 | ak5 | acu: I tried chmod 777 and chown www-data:www-data |
| 03:52.47 | bigterd | so to dd i try |
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| 03:53.17 | acu | ak5 you may need to add an -R (recursive) so all the files under that folder are changed |
| 03:53.28 | ak5 | acu: yes did that to /var/www just to make sure |
| 03:53.31 | acu | chmod -R 777 |
| 03:53.38 | bigterd | ha, sorry guys. |
| 03:53.39 | bigterd | root@p17:/home/jason# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc |
| 03:53.40 | bigterd | dd: writing to `/dev/sdc': Input/output error |
| 03:53.41 | stew | uh |
| 03:54.04 | stew | if you are running chmod -R 777, you are doing the wrong thing, no matter what |
| 03:54.11 | stew | its never the right thing to do |
| 03:54.19 | bigterd | but hdparm can pull firmware info |
| 03:54.28 | bigterd | any other suggestions? |
| 03:54.47 | sney | call microsoft and ask them what their deal is? or look at some xbox modder websites and see if anyone else has already figured it out |
| 03:54.49 | ak5 | acu: any other suggestions? |
| 03:54.54 | sney | either way, it's venturing into offtopic a little bit |
| 03:55.04 | stew | ak5: try a2enmod php |
| 03:55.07 | bigterd | oh shit, sorry, wrong channel, i'm logged onto both of them |
| 03:55.11 | ak5 | bigterd: try ##hardware |
| 03:55.16 | ak5 | they know their shit |
| 03:55.23 | stew | ak5: php scripts do NOT need +x, they certainly don't need o+rwx |
| 03:55.39 | gnarface | bigterd: did you check here? www.xbox-scene.com word on the street is people have succeeded at what you're trying to do |
| 03:55.48 | stew | ak5: sounds like you have a lot of fixing to do |
| 03:55.53 | ak5 | stew: it's a2enmod php5 |
| 03:55.57 | bigterd | gnarface, i'll look into it. thanks. |
| 03:55.59 | stew | ak5: ok |
| 03:56.05 | ak5 | and it was running :D |
| 03:56.15 | stew | ak5: whatever, you NEVER EVER want to run chmod -R 777 |
| 03:56.37 | ak5 | stew: for testing purposes, why not, after I'll put it all back to 655 or similar |
| 03:56.37 | stew | acu: why on earth would you have someone run that? |
| 03:57.13 | stew | ak5: what are you trying to test by adding those extra permissions? |
| 03:57.49 | roe | Does anyone know how I can pipe the output of an ldapsearch command to a file if I am using the -W command (prompt for a bind password) |
| 03:57.49 | ak5 | stew: I don't want to start a discussion of principle, what that does is takes any kind of permission issues of the table |
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| 03:58.37 | acu | ak5: is still not working ? you need of course to have apache running you have to have your site pointed in default so /etc/apache2/sites-available/yoursite (or default) make sure that it points to your file, also there is a config into configuration of apache mentioning php, usually it works fine with me, I just do aptitude install apache2-mpm-prefork and php5 with whatever else I need pg-php5 or whatever |
| 03:58.53 | stew | ak5: this isn't a discussion of principal, this is a discussion of practicality. you just fucked it all up for no good reason |
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| 03:59.23 | ak5 | acu: yes both of these are working |
| 03:59.32 | acu | ak5: listen to stew, but if this is for training, it does not matter much |
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| 03:59.43 | ak5 | acu: but it displays plaintext instead of parsed php |
| 03:59.44 | ak5 | now |
| 03:59.44 | sney | stew, you are targeting your ire at the wrong confused foreigner Ithink |
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| 04:00.13 | stew | sney: foreigner? |
| 04:00.23 | stew | sney: i'm pretty sure its not mistargetted |
| 04:00.46 | ak5 | stew: it is very mistargetted, pls stop berating me for this |
| 04:00.51 | sney | well, the guy who gave him the bad advice is kind of a worse problem |
| 04:01.09 | ak5 | if you have a suggestion why my php is not being parsed, pls add to the discussion |
| 04:01.36 | stew | ak5: if you tried chmod 777, then no, it is not mistargetted. that is never the right solution |
| 04:01.37 | sney | acu: since this is an official support resource for debian users, if you want to give someone a hacky and possibly dangerous solution, at least TELL THEM that it is |
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| 04:02.02 | ak5 | JESUS CHRIST |
| 04:02.07 | acu | ak5: this is dangerous solution :) |
| 04:02.08 | ak5 | I know what chmod 777 does |
| 04:02.29 | stew | excellent, then I REALLY had the right target |
| 04:02.30 | acu | sney: I think he got the message |
| 04:02.50 | gnarface | still wants to find out if those xbox drives are unlockable from within debian |
| 04:03.00 | sney | acu: you are the one who needs a message |
| 04:03.01 | ak5 | can someone please point their webbrowser to acousticons.net |
| 04:03.20 | acu | sney: that's OK, relax, I got it |
| 04:04.04 | stew | ak5: have you run "a2enmod php5"? |
| 04:04.07 | ak5 | http://acousticons.net/index.php <-- why is it displaying phpcode |
| 04:04.09 | ak5 | stew: yes |
| 04:04.18 | stew | ak5: after that did you restart apache? |
| 04:04.51 | ak5 | # a2enmod php5 |
| 04:04.52 | ak5 | Module php5 already enabled |
| 04:04.56 | ak5 | yes |
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| 04:07.05 | ak5 | stew: so if I comment the application/x-httpd-php line in /etc/mime.types it gets displayed, if uncommented, it is a download |
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| 04:07.19 | ak5 | (both with unparsed php) |
| 04:07.20 | stew | ak5: both /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.{conf,load} exists and are symlinks to exiting files? |
| 04:07.31 | ak5 | stew: yes, to mods-available |
| 04:07.55 | stew | ak5: what do you mean about mods-available? |
| 04:08.34 | ak5 | the symlinks point to the files of same name in that dir |
| 04:08.57 | ak5 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 May 18 14:52 php5.conf -> ../mods-available/php5.conf ... same for .load |
| 04:09.31 | acu | lol |
| 04:09.49 | acu | ak5 everything is 777 in your computer lol |
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| 04:10.12 | ak5 | acu: no, everything in /var/www/vhosts/acousticons.net |
| 04:11.03 | stew | ak5: how does "md5sum /etc/mime.types" compare to "dpkg -s mime-support | fgrep /etc/mime.types" |
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| 04:12.05 | ak5 | stew: checking |
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| 04:12.39 | ak5 | stew: they are the same |
| 04:13.10 | ak5 | I changed that back :D |
| 04:13.13 | ak5 | don't worry :D |
| 04:16.27 | ak5 | stew: any other ideas? |
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| 04:18.57 | acu | ak5: you changed something on the way because this works for me without problems, always, what do you use, squeeze or wheezy ? |
| 04:19.08 | ak5 | squeeze |
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| 04:20.29 | acu | if you are still learning this stuff, I strongly recomend to start using virtual machines, if you would have one fresh, it takes few minutes to test it - since I use qemu-kvm, everything is much easier |
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| 04:22.51 | acu | anyhow, I have to bud off, I am tired from trying to make a new laptop run wheezy, just unbelievable, I have to concede and use fedora17 until a fix occurs in wheezy |
| 04:23.36 | ak5 | uh ok whatever dude |
| 04:24.06 | acu | by the way - never do chmod -R 777 :) |
| 04:24.09 | acu | bye |
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| 04:25.54 | jparkton | ak5 do you have the libapache2-mod-php5 module installed? |
| 04:26.22 | sney | considering it worked when he mangled the permissions, I would assume probably |
| 04:26.34 | ak5 | jparkton: just updated to latest version |
| 04:26.37 | sney | drop-in web apps always take some permissions mangling. just maybe not that kind |
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| 04:31.13 | jparkton | ak5, /var/log/apache2/error.log see if there is something in there |
| 04:32.16 | jparkton | there should be a line saying it was installed today or whenever |
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| 04:58.55 | Yamakiri | Hi, I was trying to repartition my hard disk to install an additional distro, and I was wondering exactly how I would partition the debian sector in half (it's nowhere near full) because the partition assistant on the ubuntu install CD simply wants me to format over the whole HDD |
| 05:00.37 | sney | Yamakiri, as long as it's an ext2/3/4 partition you can use resize2fs to make it smaller |
| 05:01.12 | Yamakiri | oh, thank you, let me try this |
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| 05:04.14 | Yamakiri | sney, I read that "The resize2fs program does not manipulate the size of partitions. " :/ |
| 05:04.24 | peterrooney | wonders if there's any disparity between how resize2fs and fdisk calculate sizes |
| 05:05.13 | sney | well, parted can resize partitions, I think. I've never had to do it since I always manage to have extra hard drives |
| 05:05.15 | peterrooney | sney, in theory, you shrink the filesystem first then shrink the partition |
| 05:05.26 | sney | yeah that's what I'm thinking. or maybe parted does both? |
| 05:05.37 | sney | just gotta make sure you know exactly how big that partition is |
| 05:05.49 | Yamakiri | what exactly *is* parted? |
| 05:05.56 | sney | !parted |
| 05:05.56 | dpkg | GNU Parted is a partition editor, used for creation, destruction, resizing and copying, including the associated file system within. I (Mongoose) used it to resize a 10G partition to 15G without losing my data. Supports Apple and sparc partition tables, can only shrink HFS/HFS+ filesystems. http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/ #parted on irc.freenode.net. |
| 05:06.06 | sney | it's like fdisk on steroids. |
| 05:06.23 | Supaplex | and viagra |
| 05:06.45 | Supaplex | for those extra perky partitions |
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| 05:09.07 | ak5 | jparkton: yeah I found that line |
| 05:09.15 | ak5 | configured and resumign normal operations |
| 05:09.39 | Yamakiri | with resize2fs, if I used -M, to the minimum size, does that mean there's not a single extra bit of memory, or there's a small extra amount allowed to allow for *some* functionality, like 10mb? |
| 05:10.25 | jparkton | ak5, so its going now? |
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| 05:10.55 | ak5 | jparkton: nope |
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| 05:11.14 | jparkton | ok gimme a sec |
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| 05:13.17 | jparkton | sudo gedit /usr/local/lib/php.ini |
| 05:13.23 | jparkton | or vim either or |
| 05:13.53 | ak5 | ok |
| 05:14.26 | ak5 | that file doesnt exist |
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| 05:14.52 | jparkton | ok |
| 05:15.01 | jparkton | how about httpd.conf? |
| 05:15.01 | ak5 | jparkton: I have /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini |
| 05:15.45 | ak5 | jparkton: httpd.conf doesn't exist either, i have /etc/apache2/httpd.conf though |
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| 05:15.54 | sney | nothing is in /usr/local if you installed it with apt |
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| 05:16.27 | sney | (with the possible exception of things like bsd games) |
| 05:16.32 | jparkton | so edit the httpd.conf |
| 05:16.33 | ak5 | jparkton: I have nothing in httpd.conf, but apache2.conf is full of directives |
| 05:16.42 | jparkton | heh |
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| 05:17.53 | sney | debian's apache config uses the conf.d setup, so it's httpd.conf.d I think with several config file snippets controlling different parts of the config |
| 05:18.34 | ak5 | sney: it is apache2.conf with includes to httpd.conf and conf.d |
| 05:18.55 | ak5 | sney: and sites-enabled/ |
| 05:19.03 | jparkton | so open up the apache2 http conf |
| 05:19.09 | ak5 | jparkton: done |
| 05:19.12 | sney | ok. the httpd.conf.d/ directory is where most of your important stuff is and it's where you should be putting settings |
| 05:19.28 | ak5 | sney: sure, ok |
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| 05:19.36 | ak5 | jparkton: what would you have me do? |
| 05:19.44 | jparkton | do you see this line there anywhere? <FilesMatch \.php$> |
| 05:20.14 | ak5 | yes |
| 05:20.57 | jparkton | do you have /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl? |
| 05:21.07 | ak5 | jparkton: the regex is a little cooler, but yes |
| 05:21.07 | jparkton | or is it installed in another directory? |
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| 05:21.17 | ak5 | jparkton: I have apachectl |
| 05:21.23 | ak5 | apache2ctl actually |
| 05:21.43 | jparkton | /usr/local/apache2/bin/apache2ctl restart |
| 05:21.59 | jparkton | service httpd restart |
| 05:22.03 | ak5 | ok |
| 05:23.20 | jparkton | ok whats your url again? |
| 05:23.34 | ak5 | acousticons.net |
| 05:23.42 | ak5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.12 | jparkton | ok still not working |
| 05:24.22 | ak5 | yeah :( |
| 05:24.25 | jparkton | sudo apt-get purge libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 05:24.43 | jparkton | sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 05:25.04 | ak5 | jparkton: lots of things will get removed, ok? |
| 05:25.17 | jparkton | lots of things? |
| 05:25.47 | jparkton | paste it please http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 05:26.01 | ak5 | no its ok I have backups |
| 05:26.04 | ak5 | lets do this |
| 05:27.04 | jparkton | k |
| 05:27.11 | ak5 | it removed all my plesk crap, but I hate that shit anyway |
| 05:27.23 | ak5 | ok reinstalled, still not working though |
| 05:27.23 | jparkton | true |
| 05:27.27 | jparkton | np |
| 05:27.46 | jparkton | sudo a2enmod php5 |
| 05:28.02 | ak5 | Module php5 already enabled |
| 05:28.08 | jparkton | heh |
| 05:28.18 | jparkton | sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
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| 05:28.42 | ak5 | done |
| 05:28.59 | ak5 | (not working) |
| 05:29.17 | jparkton | np |
| 05:29.32 | jparkton | sudo apache2ctl configtest |
| 05:29.33 | ksm | from a dpkg -l: |
| 05:29.34 | ksm | hi xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.19.0-4 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver |
| 05:29.46 | ksm | is it bad that there's and 'h' there |
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| 05:30.09 | ak5 | jparkton: [Wed Jun 27 07:29:57 2012] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 05:30.12 | ak5 | Syntax OK[Wed Jun 27 07:29:57 2012] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 05:30.15 | ak5 | Syntax OK |
| 05:30.27 | ak5 | I only have acousticons.net:80 |
| 05:30.33 | jparkton | thats fine |
| 05:30.38 | ak5 | i know :) |
| 05:31.24 | jparkton | ak5, sudo gedit /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf and comment out php_admin_value engine Off |
| 05:31.58 | ak5 | ok |
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| 05:32.36 | ak5 | restarting apche |
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| 05:33.11 | jparkton | k |
| 05:33.23 | ak5 | yeah got it |
| 05:33.26 | ak5 | not working though |
| 05:33.28 | ak5 | :( |
| 05:33.32 | jparkton | wow |
| 05:33.57 | ak5 | I am going to save my vhosts files and start from le beginning |
| 05:34.16 | ak5 | I am scping content now |
| 05:34.20 | craigevil | anyone know what can be causing this error, dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `yes' |
| 05:34.21 | jparkton | sudo apt-get purge apache2 |
| 05:34.28 | jparkton | sudo apt-get install apache2 |
| 05:34.42 | craigevil | happens with any apt-get update or apt-get install |
| 05:34.43 | ak5 | thanks for your help, but I'm going to get my hosting provider to reinstall debian fresh |
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| 05:35.14 | jparkton | craigevil, try running apt-get -f install |
| 05:35.28 | ak5 | craigevil: are you using apt from backports? |
| 05:35.39 | craigevil | no trying to help someone on the forums |
| 05:36.25 | craigevil | they do not have backports in their sources.list, just main and security |
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| 05:37.43 | sney | delete the apt cache and try again |
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| 05:43.35 | ksm | in dpkg -l output, what's "hi" at the beginning of the line mean, exactly? |
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| 05:44.36 | jparkton | ksm assumedly its an extra character being thrown in there for some reason |
| 05:44.47 | jparkton | But I dont know exactly how to fix it |
| 05:46.07 | ksm | hi xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.19.0-4 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver |
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| 05:46.37 | jparkton | ksm, what is the command you are using |
| 05:46.56 | jparkton | when I dpkg -l | less I don't get any hi message |
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| 05:47.56 | ksm | $ dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel |
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| 05:49.17 | ksm | dpk -l | less gives me a bunch of ii, some rc, and the one hi |
| 05:49.26 | ksm | dpkg* |
| 05:49.47 | ksm | I know ii = installed, not sure about rc, or hi |
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| 05:50.49 | craigevil | hi=half-installed |
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| 05:51.33 | ksm | So shouldn't I have gotten an error when i had run the dpkg -i ? |
| 05:52.04 | craigevil | never seen hi, just looked it up on the man page |
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| 06:11.04 | peterrooney | craigevil: try dpkg -l | head. 'hi' means Desired: hold, Status: installed |
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| 06:13.03 | ksm | oh |
| 06:13.22 | ksm | Yeah, I have it on hold because for a while now certain updates have been crashing it |
| 06:13.30 | ksm | I just manually update it |
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| 06:14.30 | ksm | peterrooney: so what is r under desired? |
| 06:14.32 | ksm | remove? |
| 06:14.46 | ksm | and c = configured under status? |
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| 06:20.04 | Trewas | ksm: rc means that the package has been removed successfully, but the configuration is left because it hasn't been purged |
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| 06:22.34 | ksm | oh |
| 06:22.46 | ksm | I almost always use purge when removing something. |
| 06:23.42 | Trewas | I think apt/aptitude's autoremove use remove without purge, so that can leave quite many packages in rc state |
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| 06:27.13 | JCDenton | Is installing the latest kernel from backports really as simple as "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64"? |
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| 06:29.14 | peterrooney | JCDenton: yep. |
| 06:29.21 | JCDenton | Neat, thanks. |
| 06:29.33 | peterrooney | ,versions linux-image-3.2.0-0 |
| 06:29.34 | judd | No package named 'linux-image-3.2.0-0' was found in i386. |
| 06:29.36 | peterrooney | ,versions linux-image-3.2 |
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| 07:04.22 | anub|s | Can someone give me some pointers for tuning debian for dedicated mysql server? |
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| 07:05.14 | anub|s | in a OLTP (Online transaction processing) enviroment (API request) |
| 07:05.20 | intore | good morning, i still have problem with the audio on my debian. it doesn't run. the same behavior yesterday and then magically it starts to run. could you help me please? |
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| 07:12.25 | balboah | anyone been playing around with supermicro machines booting debian iso remotely using ipmi? I haven't been able to on their sandy bridge motherboard |
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| 07:15.24 | klys | ~hardware |
| 07:15.25 | apt | hardware is, like, http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=hardware_products. If you don't know what you need, start with an TDM400P and an FXS module. |
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| 07:16.02 | klys | !hardware |
| 07:16.02 | dpkg | Before buying any hardware, make sure it is supported by all operating systems you want to use; ask me about <hcl>. To acquire details about your current hardware, ask me about <whats my hardware>. Please ask all non-Debian-specific hardware questions in ##hardware on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 07:18.40 | archetech | i have one of those cards what app are you guys talking about (nosy) |
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| 07:19.51 | klys | just hardware. nothing really. do you use asterisk? |
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| 07:20.15 | archetech | i have fooled with piaf |
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| 07:22.04 | klys | you may want a mirror put up for the late pbxinaflash.org |
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| 07:23.18 | archetech | late as in they are gone? |
| 07:24.40 | jasonmc | so the official radeon drivers from amd no longer work on older cards like the 4670? |
| 07:25.55 | jasonmc | but on windows the new catalyst does hmm |
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| 07:26.01 | jasonmc | 12.4 |
| 07:27.01 | jasonmc | what are people suppost to do |
| 07:27.44 | Supaplex | !ati |
| 07:27.44 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 07:28.27 | Supaplex | there are a few different drivers that should cover most all cards (depends on the driver, card, and features wanted) |
| 07:29.00 | jasonmc | k thanks |
| 07:29.10 | jasonmc | i tried once the open source driver and couldn't get anything tow ork |
| 07:29.28 | klys | ~mach64 |
| 07:29.35 | klys | !mach64 |
| 07:29.36 | dpkg | Mach64 is a graphics accelerator chipset family introduced by ATI in 1994, supported by the mach64 xorg driver (xserver-xorg-video-mach64 package). The Mach64 <DRM> driver is unmaintained and not built by default, see http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIMach64 and http://bugs.debian.org/542382#10 |
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| 07:34.55 | balboah | yay for pxe boot |
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| 07:35.09 | jasonmc | why is there no xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd package |
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| 07:37.14 | anub|s | whats a good io monitor? |
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| 07:44.21 | jasonmc | !xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd |
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| 07:46.49 | dansan | How do I install debian without formatting anything? I want to leave my /root system intact (of course, it wont have any directories in the way) and I couldn't figure out how to do it from the installer UI. |
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| 07:47.22 | dansan | my /boot device is separate and I don't mind if it gets formatted |
| 07:48.10 | peterrooney | dansan: manual partitioning - you can tell the manual partitioner to leave filesystems intact |
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| 07:48.47 | peterrooney | dansan: you still have to tell the partitioner what the filesystem already there is, and where you want it mounted after. |
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| 07:48.56 | dansan | peterrooney: ok. Is that the verbiage I should look for? Honestly, I haven't tried this in a year, but last time I couldn't tell if it wanted to format them or not |
| 07:49.09 | dansan | peterrooney: yeah, I did that part last time |
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| 07:53.56 | dansan | peterrooney: oh yeah, thanks for the help :) |
| 07:54.07 | captured9000 | How do i mount my canon rebel xti (04a9:3110) to pull my photos off it? |
| 07:54.42 | jparkton | captured9000, is it usb? |
| 07:54.44 | dansan | captured9000: I got on top it last time -- that seemed to work best |
| 07:54.47 | captured9000 | yes it is |
| 07:54.53 | captured9000 | usb that is |
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| 07:55.02 | captured9000 | i am running squeeze xfce |
| 07:55.05 | jparkton | lsusb and see if it is listed |
| 07:55.11 | captured9000 | it is listed |
| 07:55.23 | captured9000 | Bus 003 Device 004: ID 04a9:3110 Canon, Inc. EOS Digital Rebel XTi |
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| 07:56.08 | captured9000 | lol its hard to find info on the internet because camera's have mounts too |
| 07:56.31 | dansan | jparkton, captured9000: once we see it in lsusb, don't you have to make sure that the kernel loaded a module for it? |
| 07:56.40 | dansan | dmesg|less? |
| 07:56.59 | dansan | is shooting in the dark, but has a good aim! |
| 07:57.00 | jparkton | captured9000, apt-get install gtkam and see if that works |
| 07:57.04 | jparkton | if not we can mount it |
| 07:57.21 | dansan | how do you mount an imaging device? |
| 07:57.35 | jparkton | USB mass storage device |
| 07:57.35 | captured9000 | well i don't know if it needs to be mounted as an imag |
| 07:57.37 | captured9000 | yeah exactly |
| 07:57.37 | dansan | oooohhhh |
| 07:58.03 | simonlnu | usb-storage |
| 07:58.12 | dansan | I see, sorry, I thought it was a scanner |
| 07:58.12 | simonlnu | and you might to modeswitch it |
| 07:58.36 | captured9000 | gtkam is a solution |
| 07:58.39 | captured9000 | im sure there are many |
| 07:58.40 | captured9000 | ty |
| 07:58.46 | dansan | Some camers require you switch it into a mode for being accessed by computer |
| 07:59.29 | simonlnu | !modeswitch |
| 07:59.31 | dpkg | usb_modeswitch is a tool for controlling "flip flop" USB devices, e.g. WAN dongles. This utility can disable the storage device (aka "ZeroCD", containing non-Linux drivers) and enable the serial device. Packaged for Debian as usb-modeswitch, additional devices are supported in version 20100826-1+squeeze0 (part of the <6.0.1> point release). http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/ |
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| 08:00.42 | dansan | Hey, not sure if this is OT or not, but how well does Debian HURD work? |
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| 08:03.49 | Trewas | dansan: it doesn't do anything useful, it is a toy for people who like to develop the hurd kernel |
| 08:04.06 | dansan | Trewas: ok, ty |
| 08:04.19 | klys | treas: so what doesn't it do, from recollection? |
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| 08:04.56 | dansan | Trewas: can you use any linux drivers with it? I read once that they had a subsystem that allowed you to compile & run linux drivers |
| 08:05.23 | dansan | That would have to be a major effort to maintain since the linux driver interface seems to change constantly |
| 08:05.26 | e1z0 | in these days hurd kernel ? |
| 08:05.27 | e1z0 | lol |
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| 08:07.48 | e1z0 | hurn was in development since 198x |
| 08:08.23 | e1z0 | without any results... |
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| 08:08.41 | klys | this is also the hurd support channel, in case you haven't noticed. |
| 08:08.43 | dansan | that depends upon your definition of "results" |
| 08:09.16 | e1z0 | ok guys, i'm not going to troll in this channel |
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| 08:10.14 | e1z0 | the only one good distro left - "debian" |
| 08:10.22 | e1z0 | oh, how about bsd port ? |
| 08:10.25 | dansan | lol! Gentoo |
| 08:10.35 | dansan | Well, it has it's problems :) |
| 08:10.42 | e1z0 | i'm using gentoo too |
| 08:10.43 | e1z0 | :-) |
| 08:11.08 | dansan | The maintainers are all either on burn-out or just pissed all of the time. They close my bug reports (with fixes) almost always |
| 08:11.16 | dansan | or they let them rot until they are obsolete |
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| 08:11.42 | e1z0 | i always wanted to contribute to bsd/debian |
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| 08:12.06 | dansan | Yeah, I have a game I want to convert to a .deb. I did a nice *nix adapatation to the old Master of Orion II game |
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| 08:12.24 | dansan | I'm rather proud of it |
| 08:12.26 | klys | learn dpkg-buildpackage with hello.deb |
| 08:12.34 | e1z0 | lol |
| 08:12.54 | e1z0 | i did а dpkg portation to my distro |
| 08:13.02 | dansan | yeah, I'll eventually have to do that. Caught up in a kernel patch set I'm trying to get through though (Linux, not hurd :) |
| 08:13.02 | e1z0 | and did rpm portation |
| 08:13.05 | e1z0 | :-) |
| 08:13.10 | dansan | lol! |
| 08:13.12 | dansan | that's funny! :) |
| 08:13.16 | e1z0 | yeah |
| 08:13.25 | dansan | e1z0: did you just convert the gentoo packages? |
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| 08:13.41 | e1z0 | no |
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| 08:13.51 | dansan | modify ebuild? |
| 08:13.56 | e1z0 | my system is entirely based on my own |
| 08:14.20 | e1z0 | almost LFS |
| 08:14.22 | dansan | wait, so you used ebuild to build the packages still, then your own stuff to create the .deb packages? |
| 08:14.25 | e1z0 | but it's different |
| 08:14.37 | dansan | ahhh |
| 08:14.39 | jparkton | 945 packages upgraded, 697 newly installed, 256 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 08:14.43 | jparkton | sounds legit |
| 08:15.07 | e1z0 | sounds like you spend two days to upgrade |
| 08:15.14 | e1z0 | ;-) |
| 08:15.17 | aswen | hi, can I declare "allow-hotplug" multiple times in /etc/network/interfaces? (like allow-hotplug eth0 eth1\nallow-hotplug eth2 eth3) |
| 08:15.26 | dansan | That's how long it usually takes me to gen a new Gentoo system :) |
| 08:15.48 | dansan | but next time, I'm going to have a second quad core to add with distcc |
| 08:15.49 | e1z0 | depends on the hardware |
| 08:15.54 | dansan | sorry, OT :) |
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| 08:16.32 | e1z0 | but i like debian, this project is outstanding |
| 08:16.47 | e1z0 | with great ideas |
| 08:17.25 | dansan | Yeah, I would never give a normal user a Gentoo machine! That's what Debian is for :) |
| 08:17.59 | dansan | I installed LMDE on my laptop and later tried to convert it to pure debian. It's still got pieces of crap left over, so I need to re-install it |
| 08:18.01 | e1z0 | а good ideas integrated into debian |
| 08:18.20 | e1z0 | everyone can create а distro, but а good one can create only creative people |
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| 08:19.07 | balboah | debian install says my hardware needs non-free firmware to be installed: isci/isci_firmware.bin. I followed http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware to add the firmware deb's into the initrd. But how do I actually install it in this step? It's not auto detected and no dpkg in the console |
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| 08:20.14 | e1z0 | i cannot help, i'm а little bit drunk |
| 08:20.21 | klys | check out /usr/src/linux/Documentaation |
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| 08:21.06 | aswen | hmmm, man 5 interfaces told me already. |
| 08:21.46 | e1z0 | aswen, you are from nethelands ? |
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| 08:22.02 | e1z0 | dunno how to spell correctly |
| 08:22.06 | e1z0 | :-) |
| 08:22.44 | aswen | e1z0, yup |
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| 08:23.09 | e1z0 | nice! |
| 08:23.19 | aswen | e1z0, and you? |
| 08:23.29 | e1z0 | i'm from Lithuania |
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| 08:23.38 | e1z0 | if you know this small country |
| 08:23.39 | klys | there are a bunch of netherlands lusers hangin out in #chay on irc.rizon.? |
| 08:23.40 | e1z0 | :-) |
| 08:23.55 | klys | s/chay/chat/ |
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| 08:24.49 | chrisirc | I'm confused about time zones: what is the correct timezone name, as set in TZ, for the eastern US? |
| 08:25.01 | chrisirc | There's EST and EDT, but EDT seems bogus. |
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| 08:25.03 | klys | +5 |
| 08:25.45 | aswen | I know Lithuania, yeah, It's one the Baltic states isn't it? |
| 08:27.15 | chrisirc | Well I guess I'm asking at the wrong time of day. |
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| 08:27.39 | klys | told you. +5 EST, +4 EDT |
| 08:27.56 | klys | +6 EDT |
| 08:28.11 | chrisirc | And what should I do with +5 or +4? |
| 08:28.16 | chrisirc | I want to set TZ |
| 08:28.32 | klys | tzconfig |
| 08:28.39 | chrisirc | I need it in an env var. |
| 08:28.59 | klys | ~timezone |
| 08:29.00 | apt | it has been said that timezone is "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/<timezone> /etc/localtime", or tzconfig |
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| 08:30.22 | chrisirc | I don't want to change the global setting just to run 1 program with a different timezone. |
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| 08:30.37 | e1z0 | [11:25] <aswen> I know Lithuania, yeah, It's one the Baltic states isn't it? |
| 08:30.39 | e1z0 | yes |
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| 08:31.17 | klys | are you in lithuania? |
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| 08:31.29 | e1z0 | yeah |
| 08:31.41 | klys | are there nursing homes in lithuania? |
| 08:32.12 | e1z0 | i'm not correctly understand what did you say |
| 08:32.39 | klys | ok, it's homes for old poeple with locked front doors so the old people don't go out |
| 08:32.55 | ak5 | back doors are unlocked |
| 08:33.01 | e1z0 | lol |
| 08:33.16 | e1z0 | you guys joking |
| 08:33.19 | chrisirc | Wow, the answer seems to be TZ='EST+5EDT,M4.1.0/2,M10.5.0/2', according to http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/TZ-Variable.html, and that is correct right now. |
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| 08:33.47 | chrisirc | "WTH" |
| 08:33.53 | e1z0 | seems to be locale -a |
| 08:34.11 | e1z0 | if you don't have any other locales you can't do that |
| 08:34.37 | klys | ak5 where are you from |
| 08:34.53 | ak5 | china |
| 08:35.09 | klys | are they really not locked there? |
| 08:35.20 | ak5 | uh no, I was just making fun of you |
| 08:35.31 | ak5 | they don't really have nursing homes in china |
| 08:35.38 | chrisirc | What do you mean, e1z0 |
| 08:35.45 | klys | cause I heard china is a bad place to retire |
| 08:35.59 | ak5 | depends |
| 08:36.09 | e1z0 | chineese tank approching! |
| 08:36.22 | e1z0 | good people in china |
| 08:36.25 | ak5 | you can have lots of 20-something girlfriends with soft skin if you are 60 and white |
| 08:36.40 | klys | if they don't really have nursing homes then where do you find old people? |
| 08:36.41 | ak5 | (need a bit of cash, but not VERY much) |
| 08:36.50 | ak5 | klys: on the street?\ |
| 08:36.53 | ak5 | in their homes? |
| 08:37.08 | klys | should I believe this or is it a funny joke? |
| 08:37.12 | e1z0 | if you have 69, everything is good |
| 08:37.14 | ak5 | in asian culture it is normal to take your parents in when they get old |
| 08:37.22 | e1z0 | trololo |
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| 08:37.57 | klys | I was trying to ask about lithuania |
| 08:38.10 | omid8bimo | hey, i have this error on my debian's logs, "kernel: [2138443.431729] TCPv6: Possible SYN flooding on port 80. Dropping request." -- does debian comes with a default system to block sync attacks? or there is daemon or something? |
| 08:38.56 | klys | you were experiencing syslog results from tcp_syncookie |
| 08:39.40 | chrisirc | apt: timezone is "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/<timezone> /etc/localtime", or tzconfig, or http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/TZ-Variable.html |
| 08:39.40 | apt | ...but timezone is already something else... |
| 08:39.40 | e1z0 | omid8bimo, this is are no wrong |
| 08:40.05 | chrisirc | apt: timezone is also http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/TZ-Variable.html |
| 08:40.05 | apt | chrisirc: okay |
| 08:40.12 | chrisirc | ~timezone |
| 08:40.12 | apt | somebody said timezone was "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/<timezone> /etc/localtime", or tzconfig, or http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/TZ-Variable.html |
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| 08:40.19 | omid8bimo | ok so is this a daemon or a kernel setting? |
| 08:40.45 | Sevet | linux kernel setting |
| 08:40.54 | klys | tcp_syncookies are a kernel setting |
| 08:40.58 | omid8bimo | because according to sysctl -a | grep sync, tcp_synccooking is off -> net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies = 0 |
| 08:42.36 | e1z0 | don't look at that shit |
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| 08:43.00 | e1z0 | you can imagine how many these lines are comming from 10gbps line |
| 08:43.04 | harovali | hi, I'm connecting remotely via ssh to a host which already is running Xorg in :0 . I want x11vnc to allow me to attach to it, however it does not find a DISPLAY, even if I put -display :0 . What am I missing ? The local session in the host is already logged in via gdm3. |
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| 08:43.40 | omid8bimo | e1z0: why? :) |
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| 08:43.48 | harovali | I'm connecting with the sama local user as the session runs in the host |
| 08:43.59 | e1z0 | tcp in linux has some bugs |
| 08:44.16 | klys | same UID? |
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| 08:44.32 | omid8bimo | e1z0: oh! so its not enabled in kernel but already kernel is forcing it and using it |
| 08:44.35 | e1z0 | they comes on а big traffic |
| 08:44.50 | e1z0 | omid8bimo, yep |
| 08:45.33 | e1z0 | on fedora, centos, and some other distros |
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| 08:46.06 | omid8bimo | all right tahnks |
| 08:46.09 | klys | harovali: xvnc is a vnc server, not an X client. |
| 08:46.13 | omid8bimo | ^thanks |
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| 08:46.25 | e1z0 | omid8bimo, better on to see these messages |
| 08:46.30 | e1z0 | it's not important |
| 08:46.51 | klys | it's an X server probably running as :1 |
| 08:47.11 | omid8bimo | e1z0: well i guess its good thing that kernel is blocking sync attacks. i was just wonder what service is doing that since i didnt configure anything in this regard |
| 08:47.37 | e1z0 | what service do you run ? |
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| 08:47.42 | harovali | klys: I already know that. The x11vnc is the one that fails |
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| 08:48.12 | klys | harovali: connect to :1 instead |
| 08:48.52 | klys | or, DISPLAY=:0 x11vnc :1 |
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| 08:49.18 | harovali | klys: it says "x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":1", it cannot continue." |
| 08:49.22 | Sevet | omid8bimo: reading around it sounds like that message might actually be from backlog specified in the listen() call being full, not from the syncookies option. which'd mean your server wasn't accepting connections quickly enough. |
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| 08:50.26 | enrevseluj | hey guys |
| 08:50.33 | enrevseluj | i made a terribly mistake |
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| 08:50.49 | omid8bimo | Sevet: does this mean i should increase something in the kernel? i already increased max open files and max connections |
| 08:50.52 | enrevseluj | i changed all /var directory permission to 0755 |
| 08:51.08 | enrevseluj | command is chmod -R 0755 /var [ user roor ] |
| 08:51.12 | enrevseluj | [ root ] |
| 08:51.32 | enrevseluj | naturally the mysql server gone away |
| 08:51.48 | enrevseluj | and the other services which saves pid in /var folder |
| 08:51.56 | enrevseluj | how can i fix permissions ? |
| 08:52.26 | enrevseluj | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.31 | Sevet | omid8bimo: tuning your webserver. more workers, or increase the accept() backlog param if you can. |
| 08:53.08 | klys | chmod 700 /var/lib/mysql |
| 08:53.12 | skyshadow | hello to all, I use squeeze with the iceweasel backport and am having an issue authenticating the latest release does anyone else have the same problem or know a solution |
| 08:54.06 | omid8bimo | Sevet: my apache is configured with prefork. for accepting like 100000 connections per second, what server value and max client value do u suggest? |
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| 08:54.54 | klys | chmod 660 /var/lib/mysql/*.err /var/lib/mysql/ib_logfile* /var/lib/mysql/ibdata* |
| 08:55.22 | DruMn | how can i create folder with special permissions via ssh using mkdir ? |
| 08:55.27 | klys | chmod 644 /var/lib/mysql/*.flag |
| 08:55.34 | TuxFighter | Greetings, I have problems whiel try to catch GET login attempts into plesk. If there is someone who knows fail2ban and plesk or is a serverowner ples take a look: http://pastebin.com/0t07EqJC |
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| 08:56.39 | klys | chmod 660 /var/lib/mysql/*/* |
| 08:57.20 | klys | chmod 700 /var/lib/mysql/mysql |
| 08:57.27 | DruMn | mkdir folder -m 775 |
| 08:57.29 | DruMn | thanks |
| 08:57.29 | DruMn | =] |
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| 08:57.38 | DruMn | man mkdir <3 |
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| 08:57.56 | klys | chmod 600 /var/lib/mysql/mysql_upgrade_info |
| 08:58.31 | klys | that about clinches it for mysql permissions, unless you lost ownership |
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| 09:00.07 | enrevseluj | i will never be root |
| 09:00.08 | enrevseluj | anymore |
| 09:00.13 | enrevseluj | i will never be root |
| 09:00.15 | enrevseluj | anymore |
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| 09:00.32 | enrevseluj | i give rm -rf /var directory |
| 09:00.35 | enrevseluj | perfect day |
| 09:01.54 | ak5 | hi guys, how do I get terminfo for rxvt-256color in a headless squeeze box? |
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| 09:03.59 | Sevet | omid8bimo: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/misc/perf-tuning.html, look at using worker instead of prefork, tune ListenBacklog,MinSpareServers,MaxSpareServers,MinSpareThreads,MaxSpareThreads,ServerLimit,MaxClients - but haven't dealt with tuning it for that many cps personally |
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| 09:05.38 | omid8bimo | Sevet: apache is service a php application/website! can i move to worker? i read somewhere that prefork is better for php apps |
| 09:06.02 | Sevet | it depends whether your php is threadsafe or not |
| 09:06.06 | thewanderer1 | omid8bimo: why not run php5-fpm and connect to it via FastCGI? |
| 09:06.41 | omid8bimo | Sevet: you mean my php web application? |
| 09:06.49 | Sevet | no php libraries |
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| 09:07.20 | omid8bimo | thewanderer1: well in that topic, i have a little confusion! i have php5-fpm running in my server, but i dont know what is it doing? maybe its php-mod module! |
| 09:07.42 | thewanderer1 | omid8bimo: the PHP module is separate from FastCGI AFAIK |
| 09:08.02 | omid8bimo | i have this in my ps ax output: php-fpm: master process (/etc/php5/fpm/php-fpm.conf) |
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| 09:08.43 | Lartza | If I have a wheezy system can I dist-upgrade to sid? :P |
| 09:09.05 | klys | ak5: /usr/share/terminfo/r/rxvt-256color ncurses-term |
| 09:09.12 | Lartza | Mhh that won't probably work, Rapsbery Pi, forget it :D |
| 09:10.04 | omid8bimo | so how can i know what php system apache is right now using to serve php files? |
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| 09:11.28 | Sevet | omid8bimo: phpinfo |
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| 09:11.54 | Sevet | the debian apache uses prefork btw, worker is a compile-time option |
| 09:12.45 | Sevet | i think there's a worker package too though |
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| 09:13.13 | Sevet | yea, apache2-mpm-worker :) |
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| 09:15.50 | Sevet | omid8bimo: mod_php should be threadsafe so fine to use with worker, but other libraries you use from within php might not always be, that'd depend on what you're using. prefork is usually recommended for php because it avoids that being a problem, but worker is faster and has a lower memory footprint if you can use it. |
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| 09:17.12 | lost44 | Hi :) , every traffic to a few special domains should go over a socks5 proxy (with auth). How can I do this? |
| 09:17.43 | H4x012 | i think you cannot setup socks5 proxy server on debian |
| 09:18.13 | omid8bimo | Sevet: gptcha |
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| 09:18.59 | thewanderer1 | lost44: that sounds like a per-application settings, check your client app's documentation |
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| 09:19.58 | lost44 | thewanderer1: the application can not do this |
| 09:20.17 | klys | lost44: squid |
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| 09:20.55 | thewanderer1 | right, squid should be able to authenticate requests to special domains... although still, all traffic goes through a proxy, not just some |
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| 09:23.31 | Sevet | lost44: tsocks |
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| 09:24.31 | lost44 | my app can use 1 proxy, but for all traffic, but can i setup squid, route all traffic to squid and squid does the work to say, traffic to domain A goes to the socks and the rest goes directly |
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| 09:30.15 | ak5 | klys: I don't understand, do I put that string in the file you mentioned? |
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| 09:31.29 | klys | ak5: TERM=rxvt-256color DISPLAY=:0 rxvt |
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| 09:36.19 | ak5 | klys: I added that to /usr/share/terminfo/r/rxvt-256color to no avail |
| 09:36.35 | ak5 | what do you mean by ncurses-term though? |
| 09:36.38 | klys | sh$ TERM=rxvt-256color DISPLAY=:0 rxvt |
| 09:36.51 | klys | the package contains the file |
| 09:37.03 | ak5 | oh I see |
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| 09:41.08 | ak5 | klys: installing ncurses-term did the trick |
| 09:41.09 | echo_mirage | i try to get a script executed at boot. the working and executable script is in /etc/init.d and a link to it in /etc/rc2.d/ but it just doesnt get executed. what might be the problem? unter lenny it worked this way.. |
| 09:41.09 | ak5 | thanks |
| 09:41.35 | jparkton | echo_mirage, cd to the dir ls -l |
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| 09:41.41 | klys | np you're welcome |
| 09:42.22 | TuxFighter | Hello, I need some help with fail2ban configuration |
| 09:42.35 | jparkton | #fail2ban |
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| 09:42.36 | jparkton | ? |
| 09:42.42 | TuxFighter | negative empty |
| 09:42.44 | klys | ~ or ! |
| 09:42.44 | apt | hmm... or is that just a bot |
| 09:42.59 | craigevil | shut up apt |
| 09:43.04 | jparkton | lol |
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| 09:43.25 | TuxFighter | I tried to get a custom filter working on fail2ban: http://pastebin.com/0t07EqJC |
| 09:43.36 | TuxFighter | I pretty sure now that the RegEX is conform |
| 09:43.39 | echo_mirage | jparkton: http://pastebin.com/uHZg4HjG |
| 09:45.08 | jparkton | well |
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| 09:46.02 | gnugr | echo_mirage:did you give rights to that script "chmod 755 /etc/init.d/<script-file>" before you run "update-rc.d <script> defaults"? |
| 09:46.39 | echo_mirage | gnugr: actually i never ran update-rc.d |
| 09:46.51 | jparkton | ^^ |
| 09:46.56 | echo_mirage | and cant remember i used it before |
| 09:47.21 | gnugr | echo_mirage:do that and try again |
| 09:47.23 | jparkton | echo_mirage, update-rc.d blah defaults |
| 09:47.41 | jparkton | blah meaning test.sh |
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| 09:48.51 | echo_mirage | insserv: Starting test.sh depends on rc.local and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! |
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| 09:52.49 | echo_mirage | gnugr: jparkton : http://pastebin.com/UhmzCSMH |
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| 09:53.10 | Catnaroek | Hello. What is the package for the OpenGL C library? |
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| 09:53.46 | jparkton | echo_mirage, paste your test.sh please |
| 09:54.01 | jparkton | Catnaroek, gcc? |
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| 09:55.40 | echo_mirage | jparkton: #!/bin/bash <newline> mkdir /root/outputfiles |
| 09:55.54 | Catnaroek | jparkton: Well, what happens is that I am trying to install the Haskell platform from source (getting aptitude and cabal to work together seamlessly was painful), and when I run ./configure, it tells me "the OpenGL C library is required". |
| 09:56.00 | Catnaroek | jparkton: And I do have gcc installed. |
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| 09:58.31 | jparkton | Catnaroek, apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev libglc-dev freeglut3-dev libedit-dev libglw1-mesa libglw1-mesa-dev |
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| 09:59.43 | harovali | klys: I googled everything I could and tried every possible combination. My command goes like this x11vnc -rfbauth .vnc/passwd -find -reopen -many -shared -xauth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-mg-IRUgyo/database -rfbport 9600 -o ~/x11vnc.log |
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| 10:00.45 | Catnaroek | jparkton: Thanks. :) |
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| 10:00.59 | harovali | klys: then the log is http://bpaste.net/show/ylgFS1EnmmEEj996VSBR/ |
| 10:01.27 | harovali | definitely this is a very elusive problem ! |
| 10:01.41 | jparkton | echo_mirage, are you running any Cisco on that box? |
| 10:01.58 | harovali | how to run x11vnc with a running gdm3 with the user logged in |
| 10:02.51 | echo_mirage | jparkton: no. its a fresh squeeze, on armel |
| 10:02.58 | jparkton | Catnaroek, np did it config now? |
| 10:03.37 | harovali | this guy seems to have solved the issue http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=55327 , but for me it continues to fail |
| 10:04.06 | jparkton | echo_mirage, vim /etc/init.d/keymap.sh |
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| 10:04.31 | jparkton | your looking for $remote_fs from Required-Start and Required-Stop |
| 10:04.38 | jparkton | remove that and try again |
| 10:04.49 | klys | harovali: DISPLAY=:0 x11vnc ... |
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| 10:06.03 | echo_mirage | jparkton: i need to create this file |
| 10:06.34 | jparkton | if its not there look in debian/keymap.sh |
| 10:06.36 | harovali | klys: I got it working |
| 10:06.54 | harovali | klys: -xauth guess did the damm thing |
| 10:07.06 | harovali | klys: thanks a lot for your support |
| 10:07.11 | klys | sur |
| 10:07.13 | klys | e |
| 10:07.59 | Catnaroek | jparkton: Worked like a charm, thank you! |
| 10:08.14 | jparkton | Catnaroek, np glad to be of help |
| 10:10.35 | echo_mirage | jparkton: sorry but i cant find the file |
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| 10:11.28 | jparkton | hm |
| 10:11.32 | jparkton | strange |
| 10:11.47 | echo_mirage | maybe because i never plugged a keyboard |
| 10:11.56 | echo_mirage | only ttyS0 console |
| 10:12.28 | jparkton | I dont think that would cause it |
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| 10:16.56 | jparkton | echo_mirage, im stumped man |
| 10:19.34 | echo_mirage | jparkton: me, too |
| 10:19.46 | echo_mirage | jparkton: in lenny everything worked fine |
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| 10:34.16 | Konomi | hi peeps I am using reportbug in the console and it seems it keep sending my bug reports to the src instead of the main how do I change that or is it automatic? |
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| 11:00.42 | disposable | on redhat, when i mount a partition with 'acl' and issue ls -l, i get '-rw-------.' if acl is enabled. On Squeeze, i get no dot at the end. why is that? acl is enabled, and I am able to use setfacl (and it then displays + at the end) |
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| 11:11.28 | gnugr | disposable:try to check it out with "ls -dl dir" |
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| 11:17.24 | wuxiixuw | Hello, I am trying to install webmin, and followed instructions here: http://www.webmin.com/deb.html but still can not load the interface. and also can not open the website back end from this address http://ip:10000 |
| 11:17.57 | wuxiixuw | I've already run the 1st two commands mentioned in the top of the page. |
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| 11:19.45 | ratatata | nu |
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| 11:20.15 | wuxiixuw | ratatata: nu ? |
| 11:20.27 | gnugr | wuxiixuw:symlink webmin in /var/www and try again |
| 11:21.13 | ratatata | wuxiixuw, nu |
| 11:21.44 | gnugr | ratatata:do you need any debian help? |
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| 11:23.14 | ratatata | after i downgraded from sid to stable, i dont need any help |
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| 11:24.51 | wuxiixuw | gnugr: I am afraid I do not follow becase I am new to linux. |
| 11:24.55 | wuxiixuw | because * |
| 11:26.18 | gnugr | wuxiixuw:the webmin file should be in /var/www directory as symlink |
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| 11:34.29 | wuxiixuw | gnugr: I do not know what to do now because after running the two commands the webmin still not loading |
| 11:34.34 | wuxiixuw | please advise |
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| 11:38.02 | craigevil | !webmin |
| 11:38.03 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
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| 11:41.40 | Konomi | well that made me laugh |
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| 12:15.36 | lolobart | Hi.. i have 2 routers, (A) AP and and (B)client bridge connected wirelessly.. The B extends the wireless signal so i can connect my wireless devices.... Now, can my debian do this ? I want my debian box to act like the B router using only its wirless lan. |
| 12:16.06 | lolobart | No Ethernet |
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| 12:22.07 | gabedain | Is there a way to manually exit or skip a process/step during boot-up? Wireless is getting stuck and won't time-out for hours |
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| 12:22.45 | WormFood | gabedain, did you try <ctrl>C? |
| 12:23.01 | gabedain | WormFood: Yep, did nothing |
| 12:23.02 | abrotman | gabedain: turn off the wifi card |
| 12:23.18 | WormFood | boot into single user mode, and disable wifi |
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| 12:24.29 | arthurb | Hey all. Updated my wheezy today and there's a configuration issue with libblas. It's very similar to what's described in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=659784 |
| 12:24.34 | arthurb | except I'm not using sid or experimental sources, just the testing |
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| 12:25.38 | abrotman | that bug is older .. |
| 12:25.47 | arthurb | yes, it's not that exact same bug |
| 12:25.53 | arthurb | but the configuration error is the same |
| 12:25.57 | arthurb | update-alternative fails |
| 12:26.13 | abrotman | maybe you should put that error in a pasetbin |
| 12:26.18 | arthurb | yep yep |
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| 12:28.42 | arthurb | http://pastebin.com/YyqP751T |
| 12:29.12 | arthurb | ( I put a set -x in the configuration script ) |
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| 12:32.13 | abrotman | arthurb: did you read the entire bug ? |
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| 12:36.16 | arthurb | I did |
| 12:36.32 | arthurb | what did I miss? |
| 12:37.25 | abrotman | he asks about atlas being up to date at the bottom |
| 12:37.32 | arthurb | I updated atlas |
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| 12:40.45 | LinuxUser | hi all, i got a strange problem with apache, everytime a request includes "index" the request goes to the index.php even if there is a rewrite rule which should change that. |
| 12:41.20 | LinuxUser | for example "/grundlagen/index/Was-sind-Indizes" goes to "/grundlagen/index.php" |
| 12:42.00 | LinuxUser | the same application is running on an ubuntu server without this issue |
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| 12:44.29 | abrotman | arthurb: did you look at the diff for the fix, perhaps that woould give you a hint |
| 12:44.55 | abrotman | LinuxUser: you didn't show us the rewrite rule .. |
| 12:45.32 | LinuxUser | RewriteRule ^grundlagen\/(devisen|rohstoffe|aktie|etc|index|eurex|markt|optionsschein|boerseneinfuehrung|boersenhandel|boersenregeln|charttechnik|fundamentalanalyse|fonds)\/([a-zA-Z0-9,|-]+?)?$ grundlagen/grundlagen.php?art=$1¶ms=$2 [L] |
| 12:46.47 | abrotman | seems like apache is doing the correct thing .. ? |
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| 12:48.18 | gnarface | wtb newer ffmpeg in sid |
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| 12:56.00 | arthurb | abrotman, hum it seems I'm having a bunch of other problems with dpkg-maintscript-helper |
| 12:56.09 | arthurb | might be unrelated |
| 12:56.18 | arthurb | but it's preventing a couple other packages from configuring correctly |
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| 13:03.31 | Miimp | Hi |
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| 13:04.51 | da_didi | hi! short question.. my DNS server is currently not working, but so i can't login with ldap credentials.. unfortunately i can't login with the (old) local credentials.. any idea why? |
| 13:05.06 | da_didi | i tested the old login, when i shutdown the ldap i still can use the old user/password |
| 13:05.22 | da_didi | but without working dns resolv, i have timeouts |
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| 13:05.59 | abrotman | arthurb: are you mixing wheezy with other stuff >? |
| 13:06.00 | abrotman | ? |
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| 13:06.25 | abrotman | da_didi: can you login with rescue mode? |
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| 13:06.41 | LinuxUser | abrotman, no it's not doing the correct thing cause it displays the index.php instead of the grundlagen.php |
| 13:07.13 | stew | LinuxUser: where does this RewriteRule exist? |
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| 13:07.31 | da_didi | abrotman: its a remote server, no rescue mode |
| 13:07.46 | stew | is the second to last ? redundant? |
| 13:07.49 | abrotman | da_didi: no ilo or anything like that ? |
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| 13:07.54 | LinuxUser | stew .htaccess file in document root |
| 13:07.57 | arthurb | abrotman, nope |
| 13:08.02 | arthurb | but I think my installation is scrwed up |
| 13:08.03 | stew | LinuxUser: do you not have root on this box? |
| 13:08.17 | LinuxUser | full root access |
| 13:08.19 | arthurb | I removed some packages, and upon reinstallation they all have some postint script errors |
| 13:08.19 | da_didi | abrotman: right, no lilo or so |
| 13:08.20 | abrotman | arthurb: when is the last time you did a dist-upgrade? |
| 13:08.21 | stew | LinuxUser: then why would you use .htaccess at all? |
| 13:08.26 | arthurb | yesterday |
| 13:08.28 | abrotman | da_didi: iLO .. not lilo :) |
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| 13:08.44 | abrotman | do some of those characters have to be escaped in the rule ? |
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| 13:09.04 | da_didi | abrotman: as i don't know what it is, i guess no |
| 13:09.06 | abrotman | da_didi: in short, remote console |
| 13:09.25 | abrotman | da_didi: if you can't login .. what did you want us to help you with ? |
| 13:09.32 | LinuxUser | stew, cause the devs often do chances to the rules |
| 13:09.53 | da_didi | fix the error for the next time |
| 13:09.53 | stew | LinuxUser: do you AllowOverride FileInfo? |
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| 13:10.12 | LinuxUser | Allowoverride is set to all |
| 13:10.18 | abrotman | da_didi: you could a) get another DNS server b) put the host in your /etc/hosts c) put the IP of the LDAP in the config file |
| 13:10.23 | Feuerbach | I have working sound under an old ubuntu, but no sound under debian (stable) on the same machine. Drivers are loaded, the card is recognized, volume is ok etc. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot? |
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| 13:10.29 | LinuxUser | all other rewrites work correctly |
| 13:10.52 | LinuxUser | only this one isn't working on the debian webservers |
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| 13:11.03 | stew | LinuxUser: what if you remove the ^ ? |
| 13:11.07 | LinuxUser | on the ubuntu webserver this rule is working correctly |
| 13:11.10 | da_didi | abrotman: ok.. any idea why i cann't login when there is a timeout and why i can login when i stop slapd? |
| 13:12.10 | abrotman | da_didi: i can only guess your PAM is setup to not allow for the local user when the LDAP system is unreachable |
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| 13:12.37 | da_didi | abrotman: would this be /etc/pam.d/common-auth or /etc/pam.d/common-password? |
| 13:12.38 | LinuxUser | stew, still the same problem :( |
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| 13:12.52 | Feuerbach | here's my alsa-info.txt: http://pastebin.com/iUeCuBpx |
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| 13:13.12 | abrotman | da_didi: it depends .. your /etc/pam.d/ssh could include those .. |
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| 13:13.39 | abrotman | da_didi: and the PAM docs aren't so awesome, especially relating to LDAP |
| 13:13.43 | stew | LinuxUser: i would turn on rewrite logging (but that requires you to actually put the RewriteRule in the apache config where it belongs) |
| 13:14.01 | da_didi | abrotman: i don't have a /etc/pam.d/ssh |
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| 13:14.58 | abrotman | da_didi: sorry, /etc/pam.d/sshd |
| 13:15.18 | stew | da_didi: can you show us /etc/nsswitch.conf ? |
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| 13:16.35 | da_didi | stew: http://pastebin.com/RGJmyDPr |
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| 13:17.05 | da_didi | i am not sure why, but right now i can login and the DNS is still not working |
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| 13:20.12 | DataMadness | hello, is there any program which i can use to find duplicate files via ssh sessci |
| 13:20.54 | da_didi | abrotman: ok, i need to type each password twice but then i can login.. thanks for your help, this behavior is ok when dns is not working ;) |
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| 13:21.37 | themill | DataMadness: fdupes (amongst others) |
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| 13:21.55 | LinuxUser | stew: did turn on the rewrite log but it looks like that apache puts automaticly a .php onto "index" in the request |
| 13:22.04 | BotaniCar | DataMadness: ssh connection + sshfs , with sshfs you can mount remote directory |
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| 13:22.52 | trysten | i'm wondering if this is the "right way": to remove an old/unused kernel/initramfs i'm supposed to use update-initramfs -k <ver> -d. and just delete the kernel. |
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| 13:23.11 | DataMadness | BotaniCar: i could do this on the smb shares directly. (these are the only directories i want to scan). but then i still need some freeware/opensource software |
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| 13:25.50 | BotaniCar | datamadness: if you use sshfs there is no 3rd party software installed , you mount a remote directory like it's any other and do what you need. I'm sorry if i didnt see your txt with more details but it seems you only need to mount something remotely and use a local duplicate finding utility ( themill suggested fdupes) |
| 13:26.46 | abrotman | da_didi: are all of your DNS servers broken? do you have round-robin LDAP? |
| 13:26.47 | DataMadness | fdupe sounds good, i'm giving it a test right now |
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| 13:27.27 | da_didi | abrotman: my resolv.conf had only one entry.. i fix it right now with 6 nameservers.. no round-robin ldap |
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| 13:29.31 | abrotman | weird, but okay |
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| 13:30.02 | osfd | Hi there |
| 13:30.29 | craigevil | why would you put 6 nameservers in resolv.conf? you only need 1 or 2 at most |
| 13:30.57 | osfd | from time to time mu CPU is workign close to % whereas I'm almost doing nothing. Do you know from what it may come from, please ? |
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| 13:31.35 | boudiccas | osfd: run top and see |
| 13:31.41 | pjc_ | osfd: check using top or htop |
| 13:32.01 | osfd | boudiccas: of course that what I did and top is the top CPU consumption... |
| 13:32.29 | GRMrGecko | Reading http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid, it says that Linux SATA RAID is better. But where can I find a guide to install debian using it? |
| 13:32.39 | osfd | I run debian with xfce... |
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| 13:33.41 | GRMrGecko | The end result I'm wanting is to merge the 2 SATA drives I have in a raid 1. |
| 13:33.42 | abrotman | craigevil: you definitely should have more than one .. |
| 13:33.51 | evildmp | If I install mysql-server with apt-get, will I install a version with that ridiculous authentication bug? |
| 13:34.14 | hakr | good morning |
| 13:34.53 | trysten | mornin' |
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| 13:35.24 | craigevil | $ cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 hail google dns! |
| 13:35.36 | themill | evildmp: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2012-2122 |
| 13:35.37 | osfd | like anything I do is consumming % of the CPU |
| 13:35.48 | osfd | like anything I do is consumming 100% of the CPU |
| 13:35.55 | hakr | -m |
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| 13:35.58 | hakr | ;) |
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| 13:36.00 | craigevil | osfd, open top and see what is using it |
| 13:37.00 | osfd | craigevil: that's what I said, if I only launch top, top id the main CPU consumption |
| 13:37.04 | arthurb | abrotman, no, definitely still a problem with the update-alternatives on libblas3. I don't think it's atlas related, because I don't even have atlas as an alternative (and installing atlas would bring a libblas3 dependency) |
| 13:37.12 | osfd | If firefox (for example) it takes 100 |
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| 13:38.04 | evildmp | themill: thanks - it says it's vulnerable in stable, but no-one reports that they are able to reproduce it |
| 13:38.21 | evildmp | though I was able to reprdocue it myself with mysql 5.5 on a Ubuntu setup |
| 13:38.31 | evildmp | and https://www.secmaniac.com/blog/2012/06/11/massive-mysql-authentication-bypass-exploit/ reports it with 5.1 |
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| 13:41.35 | LinuxUser | stew: found the problem - looks like mod_negotiation did some changes to the request |
| 13:41.46 | LinuxUser | after disabling the problem has gone away |
| 13:42.02 | osfd | right now I'm using firefox and firefox takes 100% |
| 13:42.28 | osfd | when I kill firefox, everything remains awefully long, slow and sh*tty |
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| 13:42.58 | themill | evildmp: security-tracker actually says the opposite of what you assert |
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| 13:43.49 | evildmp | themill: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677018 ? |
| 13:43.58 | abrotman | arthurb: have you looked at the man page to see if there's another way to to do it? Did you look at teh patch that was supposed to fix it ? |
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| 13:45.21 | themill | evildmp: as you can see on the security-tracker page, the debian packages are not vulnerable because of the particular build options used; they patch to fix the problem is also included in the current version distributed by security.debian.org |
| 13:45.29 | evildmp | ok, thanks themill |
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| 13:45.38 | themill | which is also what that bug says |
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| 13:46.42 | tharkun | isolated all mysql servers to only trusted users. Securty breaches are traceable to individuals with a pink slip attached :) |
| 13:47.14 | osfd | it's like something is making everything low in background |
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| 13:49.40 | Brandan | Nvidia graphics card is over heating on command line server, should i just take the card out? |
| 13:50.12 | tharkun | Brandan: Are you using it? |
| 13:50.15 | Brandan | no |
| 13:50.19 | tharkun | ... |
| 13:50.31 | archetech | ..... |
| 13:50.44 | Brandan | =P |
| 13:51.16 | LinuxUser | keep it for fancy effekts :P |
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| 13:59.41 | arthurb | abrotman, fixed it somehow by purging the alternatives I had |
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| 14:00.17 | sidh | Greetings |
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| 14:01.03 | osfd | ok, I restarted and now everything is |
| 14:01.05 | osfd | OK |
| 14:01.17 | Brandan | removing the video card made the computer make a wounderful boot noise :) thanks |
| 14:01.18 | boudiccas | osfd: what are the specs of this machine? what cpu? how much ram? |
| 14:02.01 | tharkun | Brandan: nvidia cards usually misbehave when there is no driver for them. |
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| 14:02.20 | Brandan | atleast it saves power and leaves the room less hot. |
| 14:02.35 | Brandan | spent 4 hours in here and the temp rose 15 F with my 2 servers |
| 14:02.42 | Brandan | of cource one is a windows server ^^ |
| 14:03.10 | sidh | I can not aptitude update anymore : E: Could not open lock file /var/lock/aptitude - open (22: Invalid argument) |
| 14:03.17 | sidh | ls /var/lock doesn't list aptitude|dpkg process, so I dont know what to do |
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| 14:03.45 | thomasie23 | i´ve got a problem creating a torrent on my debian (openmediavault really but that´s just debian) NAS. I can create it but it won´t download since nobody is uploading, but how can I start uploading it? |
| 14:03.51 | tharkun | !tell sidh lsof |
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| 14:04.00 | osfd | boudiccas: ram 4 Go, CPU 64 bits |
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| 14:04.26 | boudiccas | osfd: shouldnt have any problems then, just keep top running and see how it behaves |
| 14:04.46 | osfd | boudiccas: that's what I've been doing for days... |
| 14:04.51 | osfd | something is wrong |
| 14:05.04 | tharkun | sidh: man lsof find about who is using that socket and why it is not reported dead. also check with ps for any apt* processes running on the background |
| 14:05.58 | tharkun | osfd: vmstat is your friend as well as ps and a tiny cronjob |
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| 14:07.56 | osfd | tharkun: what should I get from this ? |
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| 14:09.08 | tharkun | osfd: vmstat will give you interesting data on how your server is running, ps will give you interesting data on what programs are running, and the cronjob will do it for your through the day so you do not need to run it every 10 minutes to collect the relevant data |
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| 14:09.30 | tharkun | once you have the data you can take the appropiate decisitions to streamline your configuration |
| 14:10.06 | tharkun | And that is the beauty of it all. You get to decide what to run and what to kill on your piece of hw. |
| 14:10.27 | osfd | tharkun: I don't run a server, it's pesonnal computer |
| 14:10.48 | osfd | ps gives me only 3 tasks, including itelf |
| 14:10.53 | tharkun | osfd: I don't seee the difference. |
| 14:11.00 | tharkun | osfd: ps aux or ps -ely |
| 14:11.05 | sidh | tharkun: lsof doesn't list any apt process |
| 14:11.14 | tharkun | sidh: and ps aux ? |
| 14:11.30 | sidh | ps faux |grep apt too |
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| 14:13.10 | tharkun | sidh: strange, why don't you retry it now |
| 14:16.04 | craigevil | sidh, if you have update-manager installed it might be running apt-get/aptitude update |
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| 14:16.24 | craigevil | try doing killall apt-get, killall aptitude |
| 14:16.36 | osfd | tharkun: http://pastebin.com/HhVgdbCG |
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| 14:18.45 | sidh | tharkun: same |
| 14:18.50 | tharkun | osfd: how much ram do you have? |
| 14:19.06 | sidh | tharkun: i found a track I think |
| 14:19.12 | osfd | tharkun: as far as I know 3 or 4Go |
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| 14:19.22 | sidh | It seems / is ro mounted |
| 14:19.29 | tharkun | osfd: cat /proc/meminfo first two lines |
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| 14:19.30 | sidh | mount: warning: /etc/mtab is not writable (e.g. read-only filesystem). |
| 14:19.39 | tharkun | sidh: :-) |
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| 14:20.04 | sidh | cat /proc/mounts tells /dev/mapper/pve-root / ext3 ro,relatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=0,data=ordered 0 0 |
| 14:20.09 | osfd | MemTotal: 3083336 kB -- MemFree: 2182812 kB |
| 14:20.09 | sidh | quite strange |
| 14:20.30 | sidh | never did that afair |
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| 14:22.33 | tharkun | osfd: from what i can see of you post, your system is idle. no relevant load on it. you will have to track it however you want |
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| 14:23.23 | osfd | tharkun: what's that mean ? |
| 14:23.25 | trysten | what is HDIO_GET_IDENTITY? |
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| 14:23.37 | tharkun | sidh: take a look at /etc/fstab and fix accordingly. There is a way of remounting partitions on a live system but i can't recall it. You might want to fix your setup and then reboot |
| 14:23.59 | tharkun | osfd: your system is doing nothing. Keep an eye on it. |
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| 14:24.30 | stew | trysten: 0x30d |
| 14:24.33 | kade | hi. |
| 14:24.38 | jhutchins | sidh: Your system says it can't write /var/loc/apt* - perhaps the filesystem needs to be checked. Have you tried touch /var/lock/foo? |
| 14:25.00 | osfd | tharkun: I know it's doing nothing, that's why I'm worried that whenever I try to do something it consummes 100% of CPU... |
| 14:25.14 | trysten | stew: how did you do that o.O |
| 14:25.29 | stew | trysten: grep -r HDIO_GET_IDENTITY /usr/include |
| 14:25.31 | jhutchins | osfd: Simplest thing to do would be shutdown -Fr now |
| 14:25.48 | tharkun | osfd: top is your friend. as well as vmstat, whenever it pullls to a 100% cpu usage you better have those also running so you can spot what is going on. |
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| 14:28.07 | craigevil | osfd, are you using compiz or desktop-effects on kde |
| 14:28.36 | tharkun | xfce4 iirc |
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| 14:29.49 | abrotman | arthurb: okay, good to know |
| 14:29.54 | abrotman | arthurb: you may want to append that bug |
| 14:30.21 | sidh | jhutchins: cannot touch , ro fs |
| 14:30.44 | craigevil | sounds like you need to reboot and run fsck |
| 14:31.06 | sidh | if I check fstab I can see "/dev/pve/root / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1" |
| 14:31.24 | sidh | so it seems there has been errors with hdd, isn't it ? |
| 14:32.19 | sidh | craigevil: well even for rebooting, I have to type init 0 then reset button as poweroff and reboot doesn't work |
| 14:32.32 | sidh | -bash: /sbin/reboot: Input/output error |
| 14:32.41 | trysten | oh my |
| 14:33.04 | craigevil | wow take it outside and shoot it, put it out of its misery |
| 14:33.29 | jhutchins | sidh: No, that says that if there are errors, the drive should be remounted read only. |
| 14:33.31 | klys | appears defcon is coming up |
| 14:33.32 | tharkun | sidh: Given the latest news on your system backup to a different machine and euthanized that poor soul |
| 14:33.59 | jhutchins | sidh: fstab is preconfiguration of mount points, not current system status. That's mtab or the output of mount. |
| 14:34.36 | hakr | think it would be considered a civilian just 'helping the cause' if someone here were to get the source code running and actually disabled something of high risk? |
| 14:34.38 | sidh | I will boot a live CD then run fsckk on this hdd |
| 14:34.39 | jhutchins | osfd: Simplest thing to do would be shutdown -Fr now |
| 14:34.43 | jhutchins | osfd: Simplest thing to do would be shutdown -Fr now |
| 14:34.45 | jhutchins | osfd: Simplest thing to do would be shutdown -Fr now |
| 14:34.56 | sidh | jhutchins: I check with cat /proc/mounts |
| 14:35.03 | jhutchins | osfd: Simplest thing to do would be shutdown -Fr now |
| 14:35.12 | hakr | spam |
| 14:35.14 | tharkun | jhutchins: are you allright? |
| 14:35.22 | dvs | jhutchins: so whatcha saying?\ |
| 14:35.30 | marienz | trapped in an infinite loop :( |
| 14:35.33 | jhutchins | tharkun: Nothing a bigger hammer wouldn't fix. |
| 14:36.07 | tharkun | jhutchins: ok. I have a 10lb sledgehammer do you want me to send it to you ;-) |
| 14:36.17 | trysten | laughs |
| 14:36.27 | jhutchins | He could try something that might actually help, or he could continue to talk about it here for twenty minutes. |
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| 14:39.20 | sidh | well it seems this hdd is dying |
| 14:39.42 | sidh | re-installation time ! |
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| 14:39.56 | tharkun | Rescante in Pace |
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| 14:40.58 | sidh | the mos difficult part is recompiling the RAID card driver , but iirc I wrote a how to las time |
| 14:41.01 | sidh | last |
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| 14:55.10 | trysten | how can i lsmod from initramsfs |
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| 14:55.28 | trysten | /proc/modules is empty D: |
| 14:56.28 | linoob | hi |
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| 14:57.03 | linoob | is it possible to disable the history in empathy 2.30 ? |
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| 14:58.54 | osfd | tharkun: Hi again. Could over heating could make sense ? |
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| 14:59.36 | osfd | tharkun: because I put a 45 cm diameter in front of my computer and everything seems to be back to normal... |
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| 15:00.15 | boudiccas | osfd: 45cm dioiamteter what? |
| 15:00.37 | boudiccas | diameter |
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| 15:00.48 | osfd | boudiccas: fan... |
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| 15:02.21 | osfd | would that make sense ? |
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| 15:03.27 | tharkun | osfd: acpi -V should give you the relevant information on that. |
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| 15:04.01 | tharkun | cleaning the heat disipators and all relevant hw is a good idea now and then |
| 15:05.20 | osfd | tharkun: http://pastebin.com/tx9460NF -- it's my working computer and the guy in charge is an ass that will 3 weeks for that |
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| 15:08.08 | abhinavmehta | is it possible to send some text-message, provided sender is just having IP of receiver...? |
| 15:08.17 | abhinavmehta | message will be just a simple text message…and sender don't know what are the apps installed at receiver's-end. |
| 15:08.37 | tharkun | osfd: As you can see for yourself it is not overheating at this momment. You are chasing a ghost so you better set up a cron job to monitor that system. There is a lightweight program that can do it. Just let me check around my desktop for its name |
| 15:09.01 | tharkun | osfd: sysstat |
| 15:09.16 | osfd | tharkun: yes, it's not overheating at the moment because the big fan in front of it is cooling it |
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| 15:09.59 | NiLon | abhinavmehta well sure, you can send udp blindly at target but you have no way of knowing if it ever reached your target |
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| 15:10.24 | abhinavmehta | NiLon: hmm |
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| 15:10.51 | tharkun | osfd: measure something, take a remedy action measure again. |
| 15:11.05 | abhinavmehta | NiLon: so suppose somehow, if I know which os he(receiver) is on…can't I call some popup to show my message..? |
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| 15:11.40 | NiLon | abhinavmehta assuming that receiver don't have any listening app, no you can't do such thing |
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| 15:11.53 | osfd | tharkun: I will... for sure I will but for now, I'm 99% sure it was a problem of heat |
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| 15:13.36 | abhinavmehta | NiLon: I know, in regular way I can't…but is there some hack for it. I'm just trying to explore for fun. |
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| 15:13.51 | NiLon | abhinavmehta unpatched windows (2k and xp mainly) did have netsend enabled globally by default, it was patched years ago tho |
| 15:13.54 | boudiccas | osfd: so unblock the air vents and clean the fans and turn off the big fan and see how it goes |
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| 15:14.03 | trysten | guys i'm frustrated. i don't want to take the easy way out (burn a cd and install debian with the installer) and i think i'm really close to getting this debootstrap system to work. but i don't think it's sucessfully mounting the rootfs. it does detect the HD they are on (it's usb connected) and detects the partitions, but it fails to HDIO_GET_IDENTITY, which could be the reason that it's not mounting. sorry for rambling. |
| 15:14.29 | NiLon | abhinavmehta there's no way unless you install somekind app that listen for messages and make popups |
| 15:14.32 | tharkun | osfd: this job is mostly out of facts and not supositions or opinions. Try to be more systematic and more objective. |
| 15:14.33 | osfd | boudiccas: I'm not allowed to do that... I'll ask the guy in charge to do it |
| 15:14.45 | abhinavmehta | NiLon: awesome mate, you touched the vibe. I was reading that only…and started thinking about this crazy thing. |
| 15:14.52 | osfd | tharkun: not always easy, sorry |
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| 15:15.10 | abhinavmehta | NiLon: hmm |
| 15:15.25 | abhinavmehta | NiLon: Anyways, thanks for kind inputs. :) |
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| 15:17.59 | ansgar_ | I've heard that dnsmasq is the easiest way to have dns services working for hosts on my local subnet. I understand that dnsmasq uses external (such as isp) dns servers for hosts on the internet, does it use /etc/hosts for serving local network requests? |
| 15:19.36 | boudiccas | osfd: i though t this was your personal home computer? |
| 15:19.40 | tharkun | ansgar_: setting up bind is not such a big deal, you just need to make your local zone file and that's it |
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| 15:20.42 | ansgar_ | tharkun, I'm looking for an easy out. so far, I don't grok bind (or the details of dns specifically) at all. |
| 15:20.50 | osfd | boudiccas: it is a laptop -- personnal computer as PC but it's work one |
| 15:21.09 | boudiccas | osfd: then let wotk sort it out, its their problem |
| 15:21.16 | boudiccas | work |
| 15:21.35 | osfd | boudiccas: yes, you're right |
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| 15:22.02 | osfd | boudiccas: unless it's gonna take them 3 weeks... it took me 1 hur |
| 15:22.04 | ansgar_ | tharkun, do you know of something like "explain bind/dns to me like I'm five" guide? |
| 15:22.08 | tharkun | ansgar_: Grab the dns article on wikipedia. It is very ilustrative and you will get the important ideas. Once you have them setting up whatever server you want will be a piece of cake |
| 15:22.10 | osfd | boudiccas: but you're right |
| 15:22.45 | ansgar_ | tharkun, I'll give it a shot |
| 15:22.51 | tharkun | ansgar_: gl |
| 15:23.21 | ansgar_ | thanks |
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| 15:25.07 | osfd | by the way thank you to all of you |
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| 15:29.01 | DataMadness | i've made "apt-get build-dep mpd" to build mpd with mp3 support. what do i have to do to free the ~500MB which have been downloaded? |
| 15:30.07 | superstraw | apt-get clean ? |
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| 15:30.33 | Pe3k | hello, pls what package do you use for listening internet radio? I tried mpg123, but it produces some noise irregularly while it writes ICY-META: StreamTitle='' on standard output... maybe it is only about some setting.. |
| 15:30.43 | DataMadness | too easy, just tired auto-remove, auto-clean |
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| 15:32.23 | trysten | Pe3k: try mplayer |
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| 15:33.13 | Pe3k | trysten: thanks, do you use it, and it works well? |
| 15:33.27 | trysten | Pe3k: yup. i listen to lame internet radio like sky.fm |
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| 15:34.36 | sanitypassing | so, uh, gnome-panel isn't showing up for some reason. I've tried rebooting twice now, and it just refuses to appear. |
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| 15:34.49 | sanitypassing | I tried starting it manually via the terminal, but it says it's already running |
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| 15:37.32 | calrogman | sanitypassing: Sounds like all your panels got deleted somehow. Use gconf to add a blank panel to the desktop (don't ask me how, I don't use Gnome), or delete your Gnome configuration files to get the default panels back. |
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| 15:37.51 | sanitypassing | okay |
| 15:37.52 | TTT | hi, why can i use \\s to match whitespace in bash =~ regular expression with bash v3.2 in redhat, but only [:space:] works in bash v4.1 in debian? |
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| 15:38.45 | calrogman | sanitypassing: `gconftool -recursive-unset /apps/panel' should reset your Gnome panel settings. |
| 15:38.56 | sanitypassing | alright, thanks |
| 15:38.58 | calrogman | But if that doesn't work, blame Google, not me. |
| 15:39.05 | TTT | different regex libraries? different bash versions? environment settings? |
| 15:39.43 | sanitypassing | now should I have to logout for this to take effect? |
| 15:40.02 | calrogman | Yeah, you'll need to restart gnome-panel, at least. |
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| 15:40.19 | sanitypassing | ok, how can I do that without screwing something else up? |
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| 15:40.44 | calrogman | TTT: Different interpretation of regex. \s is vim/perly regex, [:space:] is posixly compliant regex. |
| 15:40.56 | calrogman | sanitypassing: Can you get to the alt-f2 dialog? |
| 15:41.12 | sanitypassing | doesn't look like it |
| 15:41.17 | sanitypassing | I have full terminal access though |
| 15:41.38 | calrogman | Easiest way is to log out then bac in then. |
| 15:41.49 | sanitypassing | not sure how to do that via terminal. :/ |
| 15:42.10 | calrogman | You don't have gdm on boot? |
| 15:42.10 | TTT | calrogman yeah, but why on earth did \s work on RH bash :\ |
| 15:42.45 | calrogman | TTT: Because that's the kind of regex bash used back then? |
| 15:42.53 | calrogman | There's not really anything else to it. |
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| 15:43.24 | sanitypassing | ah, there we are. |
| 15:43.33 | sanitypassing | logged out and then back in, and now it's working fine |
| 15:43.44 | sanitypassing | thanks for the help |
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| 15:57.34 | Alogeno_ | hi, after an apt upgrade i can't no longer log in into gnome shell or fallback...it happen only to me? it's a fresh bug? i'm on sid using nvidia drivers |
| 15:58.33 | epsilon | well it's sid.... can be anything |
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| 15:58.51 | Alogeno_ | actually i'm on lxde and all works |
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| 15:59.39 | jordanm | Alogeno_: as a sid user its your job to find and report the "fresh" bugs |
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| 17:42.23 | mdh | what's a good way to bring a gnome session over ssh? |
| 17:43.46 | gnarface | "good" is a very subjective term, but you would take your pick of one of the various VNC server/client solutions |
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| 17:44.12 | abrotman | or just remote X |
| 17:44.39 | mdh | i tried gnome-session with x11 forwarding |
| 17:44.46 | mdh | top and bottom bars don't work |
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| 17:45.23 | mdh | i'm looking for something like vnc that uses the efficency and crispness of x forwarding |
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| 17:45.53 | gnarface | yea well, i'm looking for a copy of ffmpeg that behaves as documented |
| 17:46.04 | gnarface | we don't always get what we want |
| 17:46.52 | gnarface | some of those VNC servers support a certain level of jpeg compression and other optimizations to take the lag out of the interface, but it still won't be very fun unless you're on a relatively underutilized LAN with the server |
| 17:47.30 | mdh | i got x forwarding working today |
| 17:47.39 | mdh | and that works great, but i can't get the whole desktop |
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| 17:48.23 | gnarface | prefers not to let his programs spill out of their windows |
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| 17:48.54 | nerdistmonk | so is there something im not understanding about multiarch? anytime i try to put in a i386 package it wants to remove 3/4 of my 64bit system... |
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| 17:50.25 | schreiberstein | Hi there |
| 17:50.28 | stew | nerdistmonk: can you show us? |
| 17:51.07 | abrotman | nerdistmonk: and why are you using multiarch? |
| 17:51.15 | popoi | how, after working in gui gnome get off to go to the command line? |
| 17:51.21 | nerdistmonk | because wine needs 32bit deps.... |
| 17:51.34 | nerdistmonk | and the lib32 stuff is being phased out in sid apparantly |
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| 17:51.50 | abrotman | you mean ia32-libs stuff ? |
| 17:51.56 | nerdistmonk | i got both... |
| 17:51.59 | nerdistmonk | ia32 and lib32 |
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| 17:52.16 | stew | we are probably getting a new ia32-libs in side later today |
| 17:52.21 | schreiberstein | i'm new to debian, but not new to linux, and installed debian wheezy alpha. can i safely remove the wheezy updates and security repo so that i just use the main repo? or are they recommended? |
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| 17:52.50 | nerdistmonk | All i know is i have no sound in wine, it hates pulseaudio, but i cant remove pulse because then i can only have one program at a time use my microphone |
| 17:52.51 | stew | ah, the new on is a transition to multi-arch package |
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| 17:54.01 | gnarface | schreiberstein: they're not used in wheezy, as far as i know, so yes |
| 17:54.10 | MO_Handes | what command to use for getting a list of mounted filesystems? |
| 17:54.23 | nerdistmonk | anyways i needed lib32asound-plugins or whatever but its not in sid or wheezy |
| 17:54.25 | gnarface | MO_Handes: this one is gonna shock you |
| 17:54.27 | gnarface | MO_Handes: mount |
| 17:54.29 | popoi | how to unload from memory gnome? and then from the command line to run gui Gnome again |
| 17:54.31 | Supaplex | MO_Handes: 'mount' 'df' |
| 17:54.37 | nerdistmonk | thats the file that would have fixed my audio in wine....but they dont have it anymore |
| 17:54.39 | schreiberstein | thanks. then i remembered right that these are just "dummyes" which redirect to the testing repo |
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| 17:54.45 | MO_Handes | oh I was looking for df, thanks |
| 17:54.52 | schreiberstein | or don't redirect to anything |
| 17:54.56 | schreiberstein | nevermind |
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| 17:54.58 | schreiberstein | thank you |
| 17:56.29 | nerdistmonk | so how do i make programs share my mic in alsa, dsnoop does not work...period |
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| 17:57.25 | stew | nerdistmonk: why can't you install i386 version of libasound2-plugins? |
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| 17:57.37 | sergiu-dev | Hi, do anyone know, how to install stuffs for bios, like firmware change ? There is just an file wihtout any format. |
| 17:57.38 | MO_Handes | I upgraded to wheezy but when I boot kernel 3 it does not recognize my RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller, I had previously installed driver in squeeze and now it works with kernel 2.6 |
| 17:57.42 | nerdistmonk | because it wants to remove the 64bit version and all the programs that depeneded on it |
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| 17:59.00 | stew | nerdistmonk: can you show us? |
| 17:59.06 | nerdistmonk | what do you mean show you? |
| 17:59.28 | stew | nerdistmonk: whatever "it" is and what "it" is trying to do |
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| 17:59.59 | nerdistmonk | dude.........i just said libasound2-plugins:i386 wants to remove libasound2-plugins amd64...... |
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| 18:00.21 | stew | ok? |
| 18:01.13 | nerdistmonk | -_- |
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| 18:01.33 | stew | well, that surprises me, but I'm happy to not help with it if you don't want help with it |
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| 18:01.44 | MO_Handes | how to install these packages (what are these named)? kernel && kernel-devel && kernel-headers |
| 18:01.52 | yggdrasil | hello, im working with a raspberry pi, wheezy and it is preconfigured to automatically log in as a user (not x just cli) how do i disable this? |
| 18:02.16 | stew | MO_Handes: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 18:02.48 | stew | MO_Handes: you probably want "aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" |
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| 18:03.01 | nerdistmonk | im leaving it broken, im going to switch to fedora, multiarch is a mess |
| 18:03.52 | MO_Handes | stew, I'm trying to build a few packages to make my wireless lan driver package |
| 18:04.23 | stew | MO_Handes: what makes you thihnk you need "kernel && kernel-devel && kernel-headers" ? |
| 18:04.49 | MO_Handes | stew, it works on kernel 2.6 but not in 3.2 and I have to rebuild it on kernel 3.2 |
| 18:04.58 | stew | MO_Handes: what is "it"? |
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| 18:05.12 | MO_Handes | the manual wants me to install those package to 'make' and 'make install' the driver |
| 18:05.13 | MO_Handes | RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller |
| 18:05.20 | stew | MO_Handes: obviously you already have a kernel. i don't know exactly what kernel-devel would be, kernel-headers would be linux-headers-$(uname -r). linux-headers-$version is typically all you need to build a driver |
| 18:05.21 | yggdrasil | hello, im working with a raspberry pi, wheezy and it is preconfigured to automatically log in as a user (not x just cli) how do i disable this? |
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| 18:06.03 | MO_Handes | do I need a reboot for booting into 3.2?! (I'm on 2.6 now) |
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| 18:07.01 | streuner | MO_Handes: sure |
| 18:07.10 | MO_Handes | so, bye for now ;) |
| 18:07.11 | stew | MO_Handes: then you don't want the $(uname -r) part, you want it to be linux-headers-$version where $version of the kernel you are trying to build for, perhaps ssomething like 3.2.0-2-amd64 |
| 18:07.18 | shingouz | why is one of my systems refusing to up the wlan with ifup. /etc/network/interfaces has a correct 'wireless-key mykeyhere' stanza but the wireless does not want to connect. with iwconfig eth1 key mykeyhere it works |
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| 18:07.48 | stew | shingouz: how exactly does it refuse? |
| 18:07.54 | stew | shingouz: does it give you an error? |
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| 18:08.25 | shingouz | stew: no ping responses and no network connectivity. my ap does not see it as a user |
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| 18:08.46 | shingouz | stew: no other errors that i can see |
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| 18:14.04 | dioz | why is flash, youtube, so horrible in linux? |
| 18:14.09 | dioz | i can't play 1080p youtube videos? |
| 18:15.08 | jordanm | using what graphics driver? |
| 18:15.21 | jordanm | flashplugin-nonfree or gnash? |
| 18:15.34 | dioz | it's just a OG debian squeeze install |
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| 18:15.56 | jordanm | dioz: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 18:16.15 | jordanm | dioz: if you didn't install flashplugin-nonfree, you are using gnash, which will never work very well |
| 18:16.23 | dioz | oh alright |
| 18:16.25 | dioz | i'll check that out |
| 18:16.27 | dioz | thanks guy |
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| 18:16.34 | jordanm | np |
| 18:17.00 | abrotman | i wouldn't say never .. |
| 18:17.06 | abrotman | he could also try lightspark |
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| 18:17.11 | dioz | it's intel g31 onbaord graphix ;] |
| 18:17.28 | abrotman | should be fine |
| 18:17.44 | abrotman | i used to watch 1080p on an 845 |
| 18:17.50 | dioz | kk, i'll checkout the non-free |
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| 18:17.57 | jordanm | the intel drivers are fine for that |
| 18:18.03 | shingouz | lightspark? dpkg is just as ignorant as i am this time |
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| 18:18.16 | abrotman | judd: info lightspark --release sid |
| 18:18.18 | judd | Package lightspark (utils, optional) in sid/i386: High-performance SWF player (experimental). Version: 0.6.0.1-2; Size: 109.6k; Installed: 788k; Homepage: http://lightspark.sf.net |
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| 18:18.49 | shingouz | ah. thanks. so judd is the new dpkg here now? |
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| 18:20.11 | MO_Handes | what is the best repository to use in sources.list? (I currently use http://ftp.debian.org/debian/) |
| 18:20.41 | stew | MO_Handes: what country are you in? |
| 18:20.54 | dioz | i've never ran a linux GUI before |
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| 18:21.05 | MO_Handes | MO_Handes, Iran, and I don't think there's one for Iran, I prefer to use the main one |
| 18:21.06 | dioz | this is kind of weird |
| 18:21.23 | MO_Handes | s/MO_Handes/stew |
| 18:21.23 | dioz | CLI or bust |
| 18:21.25 | stew | MO_Handes: you can use http://cdn.debian.net/debian |
| 18:21.34 | dioz | anyone know a sound card with optical out that has linux support? |
| 18:22.05 | MO_Handes | hmmm, thanks |
| 18:22.31 | stew | MO_Handes: perhaps ftp.tr.debian.org? |
| 18:22.48 | stew | MO_Handes: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 18:23.46 | MO_Handes | oh, what is this Epiphany browser all links are opened with, how to set the default browser to iceweasel? |
| 18:24.09 | MO_Handes | welcome back themill |
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| 18:25.18 | rgenito_ | "USB 2.0: Released in April 2000. Added higher maximum signaling rate of 480 Mbit/s (effective throughput up to 35 MB/s) (now called "Hi-Speed"). " |
| 18:25.30 | rgenito_ | what does "effective throughput" mean? |
| 18:25.58 | rgenito_ | i know, topic is debian... i figured debian people would know :) |
| 18:26.06 | dvs | rgenito: It means that there is overhead with the communication that reduces the speed to 32MB/s |
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| 18:30.45 | rgenito_ | dvs ahh i see, so there is other data that needs to be sent in order to properly communicate those raw 35 MB/s ? |
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| 18:32.17 | dvs | rgenito: Yes. For starters, it used a 8b/10b protocol so every 8 bits of data get translated into 10 bit of data over USB. |
| 18:33.27 | zecrazytux | I boudbt that the overhead is as high as near to 50%, but there is one controller for multiple ports |
| 18:33.32 | zecrazytux | and usb is half duplex |
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| 18:34.19 | dvs | zecrazytux: The overhead isn't 50%. It's closer to 25%. |
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| 18:41.34 | popoi | how to unload from memory gnome? and then from the command line to run gui Gnome again |
| 18:41.40 | popoi | ? |
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| 18:45.27 | tharkun | How can i get one package from oldstable in order to upgrade? |
| 18:45.28 | qwertz__ | Hi, is there a tool similar to bonnie++ to test integrity of file transfers on a hard disk? |
| 18:46.10 | dvs | !tell tharkun about lenny |
| 18:46.39 | dvs | !tell tharkun about lenny->squeeze |
| 18:46.51 | tharkun | dvs: only one package. Is the full iso the only way? |
| 18:47.11 | dvs | only one package what? |
| 18:47.32 | tharkun | I need only one package to finish backups so migration can be possible |
| 18:48.08 | dvs | tharkun: lenny is available at archive.debian.org so there's no need to download an ISO |
| 18:49.29 | themill | tharkun: what are you really trying to do here? |
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| 18:53.17 | tharkun | themill: I'm trying to backup some mysql server. I screwed the mysqldump program i just need it to backup. Nothing fancy. Mysql has a tendency to be a pita whenever you are upgrading debian |
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| 18:53.55 | dvs | has had the same problem with postgresql |
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| 18:55.21 | sweb | during compile php pecl extention http://pecl.php.net/package/fribidi .... give me an error |
| 18:55.23 | sweb | checking for FriBidi version... configure: error: fribidi-config not found. |
| 18:55.48 | redragonx | Does anyone know how to install patched libvdpau on debian 6, so i can stop having blue tinted people in youtube? |
| 18:55.56 | abrotman | tharkun: just grab the package from archive.debian.org |
| 18:56.12 | abrotman | sweb: why are you compiling it? |
| 18:56.43 | sweb | abrotman: support right to left using in image generation and pdf creation via php |
| 18:56.57 | tharkun | abrotman: I intend to do just that :-) |
| 18:57.15 | sweb | abrotman: http://old.nabble.com/Problems-installing-fribidi-with-pecl-td26420630.html |
| 18:57.32 | sweb | i think this problem not solved long time |
| 18:58.07 | sweb | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.pecl.devel/5947 |
| 18:58.08 | sweb | :( |
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| 18:58.16 | sweb | i think i cant compile it |
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| 18:58.26 | Siegel | hello |
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| 18:59.26 | Siegel | can you put more than one logical volume's on a single physical partition |
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| 19:01.22 | LoboX | cl |
| 19:01.29 | Siegel | anyone have any insight? |
| 19:01.51 | dvs | Siegel: You can have multiple logical partitions in an extended partition |
| 19:01.55 | one_love | queensbridge. |
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| 19:03.58 | Siegel | i made a mistake in my question |
| 19:04.30 | Siegel | i ment can you put more than one volume group on a single physical partition? |
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| 19:07.08 | dondelelcaro | Siegel: why would you want to do that? |
| 19:07.27 | dondelelcaro | I mean, it's probably possible, but you'd almost certainly just subdivide the partition |
| 19:07.42 | Siegel | i have a 60GB partition with a 60GB volume group with a 10GB logical volume is there a way to keep the data in the logical volume and shrink the volume group down to 20GB so i can add another 2 volume groups |
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| 19:08.10 | dondelelcaro | Siegel: is there any reason why you want additional volume groups instead of more logical volumes? |
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| 19:09.00 | Jrowiktu | http.debian.net Destination Host Unreachable |
| 19:09.35 | Siegel | i want to create some PV guests |
| 19:09.48 | Siegel | each needs its own volume group |
| 19:10.12 | redragonx | Does anyone know how to install patched libvdpau on debian 6, so i can stop having blue tinted people in youtube? |
| 19:10.32 | scientes | redragonx, thats a flash problem |
| 19:10.41 | tremon | dondelelcaro: I can think of one reason, not sure if it's true: VG's won't be activated until they are complete. So if you have your / on LVM, debian will fail to boot if any of the three drives fail, even if the LV in question is only on one of the disks |
| 19:10.56 | redragonx | yes, i am aware of that.. |
| 19:11.01 | scientes | redragonx, if you turn off flash, *some* youtube will work with html5 |
| 19:11.13 | redragonx | but there is a patch for it |
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| 19:11.25 | scientes | oh, then apt-get source it and build it |
| 19:11.30 | scientes | and if it works file a bug |
| 19:11.31 | redragonx | for the video decoding |
| 19:11.36 | scientes | apt-get sourcefoo |
| 19:11.40 | scientes | apt-get build-dep foo |
| 19:11.42 | scientes | cd foo |
| 19:11.56 | dondelelcaro | tremon: generally speaking, you'd do raid for that, but that would be multiple volume groups with multiple physical volumes on different disks |
| 19:11.56 | scientes | quilt import foo-patch.patch |
| 19:11.56 | scientes | dpkg-buildpackage |
| 19:11.58 | redragonx | its this |
| 19:12.05 | scientes | do it, and stop whining here |
| 19:12.07 | scientes | and then file a bug |
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| 19:12.15 | scientes | after it works |
| 19:12.17 | tremon | dondelelcaro: sure. Hypothetically speaking ;) |
| 19:12.24 | redragonx | http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue/131040#131040 |
| 19:12.38 | thewanderer1 | Siegel, you said "guests" - do you mean virtual machines? |
| 19:12.39 | redragonx | idk how to do that |
| 19:12.48 | scientes | redragonx, oh thats ust a binary workaround |
| 19:12.51 | Siegel | yes |
| 19:12.51 | dondelelcaro | Siegel: if you're doing kvm, the normal procedure is to generate a logical volume, and then have the guest use the logical volume as it's physical volume, possibly doing lvm on that physical volume |
| 19:12.57 | scientes | or whatever, redragonx just go do it |
| 19:12.59 | Siegel | paravitualized guests |
| 19:13.53 | Siegel | im using xen which seems to require volume groups from what i can tell by the command |
| 19:13.56 | redragonx | do what |
| 19:14.15 | dondelelcaro | Siegel: no, xen is perfectly ok with using a logical volume |
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| 19:15.02 | redragonx | There is no patch download,' |
| 19:15.52 | Siegel | ok but how do you specify which ones it uses cause this is what the command looks like xen-create-image --hostname=tutorial-pv-guest --memory=512mb --vcpus=2 --lvm=vg0 --dhcp --pygrub --dist=squeeze |
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| 19:15.56 | Ephexeve | Hey |
| 19:16.07 | trysten | Ephexeve: hello, how can we help you |
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| 19:16.49 | Ephexeve | I have some problem, I just installed ati driver (following the wiki) after when needing to go to the virtual console doesn't work, trying CTRL + ALT + F1-6 I get a black screen only.. |
| 19:16.51 | Ephexeve | Any idea |
| 19:16.54 | Ephexeve | trysten: |
| 19:16.55 | dondelelcaro | Siegel: that creates a new logical volume on the vg0 volume group, which is what you want. you probably also want a --size option. |
| 19:17.29 | trysten | Ephexeve: does your X work? |
| 19:17.42 | Ephexeve | trysten: Yes I am on it right now (Gnome2) |
| 19:17.43 | jhutchins_lt | Ephexeve: Driver for what on what following what wiki? |
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| 19:17.51 | Siegel | it wont try use existing logical volumes in that group? cause my root is there :P |
| 19:17.58 | dondelelcaro | Siegel: no. |
| 19:17.59 | trysten | Ephexeve: so what's your problem :P |
| 19:17.59 | Ephexeve | jhutchins_lt: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 19:18.21 | Siegel | ok awesome, thanks |
| 19:18.40 | Ephexeve | trysten: In the wiki in the Squeeze section, I tried to go to the console to kill the X, but didn't work.. when tyring to access the virtual-console I get a black screen only |
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| 19:19.42 | zecrazytux | Siegel: you may want to read xen-create-image manpage which has a LVM EXAMPLE section |
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| 19:20.00 | Ephexeve | sorry, it closed, any idea? |
| 19:20.13 | Siegel | will do thanks |
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| 19:20.52 | trysten | Ephexeve: perhaps you should try booting with a different runlevel to see what happens. also check top to see if getty started the tty's |
| 19:20.55 | trysten | ttys* |
| 19:21.11 | Ephexeve | trysten: Will try that |
| 19:21.14 | Ephexeve | Cheers |
| 19:22.11 | trysten | this worked before. i used ln to make a link to a bin in my home directory. when i moved the folder and used ln again, the bin won't start because it's not starting with the right PWD. how to symlinks handle this? |
| 19:22.54 | kevlarman | trysten: they don't |
| 19:24.11 | trysten | so symlink just makes the bin appear to be in that directory? cool. instead i should make a script that calls the bin from where it is, right? |
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| 19:26.20 | jhutchins_lt | trysten: runlevels really don't mean much on Debian, booting to single-user or rescue mode might be helpful. |
| 19:26.22 | Jrowiktu | i want install browser-plugin-gnash. he associated with two virtual packages libboost-date-time1.42.0 libboost-thread1.42.0 How to install plugin? |
| 19:26.46 | trysten | jhutchins_lt: i hope he figures out that's what i meant. D: |
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| 19:27.06 | jhutchins_lt | trysten: Yeah. Sounds like the framebuffer driver isn't working properly. |
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| 19:28.09 | freeone3000 | Crosspost from ##linux. I have a system where mdadm (and smartctl) marks certain sectors as invalid to read. hdparm can read them, dd can read them, and when I wrote a chunk of data to the sector with dd I got the same data back. How do I tell mdadm and smartctl that trust me, those are fine, continue rebuilding the RAID? |
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| 19:29.48 | bluesceada | hmm with the next debian release i can install a 64bit debian without any compatibility compromise for 32bit software, right? |
| 19:30.14 | freeone3000 | bluesceada: 32-bit software requires 32-bit libraries. You should be able to install 32-bit libraries in addition to your 64-bit libraries just fine. |
| 19:30.32 | bluesceada | yeah but it's not straightforward at the moment |
| 19:30.47 | kevlarman | freeone3000: for small definitions of just fine |
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| 19:30.53 | bluesceada | i thought there will be somekind of multilib support (a library that directly supports both somehow?) |
| 19:31.25 | freeone3000 | ia32's the closest that's feasible. WOW64 uses the same approach. |
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| 19:32.20 | kevlarman | e.g. gstreamer 64 bit headers differ from the 32 bit, they can't coexist and 64 bit headers will break the build with -m32 and vice versa |
| 19:32.28 | stew | bluesceada: yes, with the next release you'll be able to do "dpkg --add-architecture i386", then "apt-get install libsomething:i386" |
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| 19:34.53 | bluesceada | stew ah cool, how much of that already works in testing? or should i better stay away of it because it is still quite experimental? |
| 19:35.20 | stew | bluesceada: it works in testing now, yes |
| 19:35.23 | bluesceada | hmm cool |
| 19:35.24 | MO_Handes | I run `aptitude install realtek-firmware` and my WLAN is working now, but about 300 packages has been removed automatically that made my gnome look bad and some tools like software center, etc being removed. how to make it install all default wheezy packages again?! |
| 19:35.25 | bluesceada | thanks |
| 19:35.52 | bluesceada | stew: could i upgrade from 32bit to 64bit like that? i guess that is experimental then (and unsupported anyway...) ? |
| 19:35.54 | stew | MO_Handes: "aptitude install gnome" |
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| 19:36.18 | stew | bluesceada: i'm not sure |
| 19:36.23 | MO_Handes | stew, but it's not only gnome |
| 19:36.27 | tremon | bluesceada: in-place upgrade from 32->64 bits will be supported (eventually) |
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| 19:37.03 | stew | MO_Handes: "aptitude install gnome something-else yet-another" ? |
| 19:37.15 | bluesceada | tremon: wow okay ... but i should better not do it *now* .. right? |
| 19:37.19 | MO_Handes | it removed lots of libraries and applications but I don't know which ones |
| 19:37.38 | MO_Handes | I just want all default Wheezy applications be installed |
| 19:37.39 | stew | MO_Handes: check /var/log/aptitude or /var/log/dpkg.log ? |
| 19:37.47 | stew | MO_Handes: what do you mean by "default"? |
| 19:38.02 | MO_Handes | like when you install a fresh copy of it |
| 19:38.09 | MO_Handes | for example with cd 1 |
| 19:38.12 | stew | MO_Handes: "aptitude install '~prequired' '~pimportant'" this wouldn't include gnome though |
| 19:38.19 | bluesceada | and thanks for your great work btw (supposing you are debian devs) |
| 19:38.28 | redragonx | Can anyone please tell me how to import code properly to patch something from this http://plagman.net/stuff/0001-vdpau_trace-WAR-Flash-quirks.patch |
| 19:38.53 | stew | MO_Handes: perhaps "tasksel install desktop" also? |
| 19:39.28 | tremon | bluesceada: in wheezy, multiarch will be more like a "technology preview"; it's there and usable, but bugs are pretty much guaranteed. I wouldn't try crossgrading like that just yet. But it is a supported use case |
| 19:39.30 | stew | MO_Handes: and maybe "tasksel install standard"? I don't know what tasks you selected when you installed, perhaps also laptop |
| 19:39.35 | clu5ter | is there a special command for partyline on Debian between root and user account? |
| 19:39.44 | tremon | bluesceada: no DD yet :) |
| 19:39.46 | bluesceada | tremon: mh ok |
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| 19:40.00 | Ephexeve | I tried adding run level 2 in the kernel line but I keep booting on 5... |
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| 19:41.01 | Ephexeve | any idea? |
| 19:41.17 | stew | Ephexeve: are you running debian? did you chnage the default runlevel? in debian the default runlevel is 2 unless you change it |
| 19:41.33 | stew | Ephexeve: how are you checking which runlevel you are in? |
| 19:41.55 | tremon | Ephexeve: by default, runlevels 2-5 are the same |
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| 19:42.23 | Ephexeve | stew: Yes (I was running Arch my whole life, but I gave up, horrible, so a bit new to debian) in the boot splash, I edited the line and added run level 2 |
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| 19:42.30 | Ephexeve | Oh, so I should add 1? |
| 19:42.43 | stew | Ephexeve: what does "/sbin/runlevel" return? |
| 19:43.02 | Ephexeve | stew: N 2 |
| 19:43.06 | tremon | Ephexeve: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:43.10 | stew | Ephexeve: so you are in runlevel 2, not 5 |
| 19:43.22 | stew | Ephexeve: why do you care which runlevel you are in? |
| 19:43.55 | Ephexeve | tremon: I am trying to install ATI driver (where the wiki says) so they are telling me to open virtual console to kill the X, but I cannot, when tryin CTRL ALT F2 I get a black screen and nothing in there |
| 19:43.56 | ompaul | Ephexeve: debian philosophy 101, we are almost 100% certain if you wanted to install it you want to run it. |
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| 19:44.55 | Ephexeve | ompaul: hehehe, f*** arch |
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| 19:47.15 | ompaul | Ephexeve: no thanks, I have a life. :) |
| 19:47.32 | Ephexeve | stew: Any idea? |
| 19:47.49 | Ephexeve | ompaul: and I a new job and need to fix debian asap :P |
| 19:48.08 | stew | Ephexeve: I don't recommend using proprietary drivers |
| 19:48.38 | Ephexeve | stew: this is what I followed: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 19:48.55 | tremon | Ephexeve: can you point me to the wiki page, and which ati gfx card? |
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| 19:50.37 | Ephexeve | tremon: Sure: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary -> Radeon EAH5870 |
| 19:50.47 | Ephexeve | tremon: Debian squeeze |
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| 19:52.07 | tremon | Ephexeve: ok thx, if none of your text consoles are working you might want to try booting with radeon.modeset=0 |
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| 19:52.34 | Ephexeve | tremon: radeon.modeset=0 in the kernel line? |
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| 19:54.03 | tremon | Ephexeve: yes. But try ctrl-alt-f1 through ctrl-alt-f6 first |
| 19:54.23 | Ephexeve | tremon: Tried everything already :/ |
| 19:54.27 | Ephexeve | tremon: I will try that one now |
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| 19:57.38 | Asterix_ | Hi guys. I've faced issue with byobu after system updated an rebooted. When I'm trying to open new tab in byobu i'm getting "Cannot open /dev/ttyp*: permission denied". But sometimes new tab opens. Ready to give version, etc. What could happened? |
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| 19:57.44 | MO_Handes | stew, we were talking about some unexpectedly removed software, now I have a list of all of them in a file and each package name is seperated in a line, now how can I make apt-get to get names from the text file and install all of them? |
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| 19:58.30 | freeone3000 | MO_Handes: cat `file` | xargs apt-get -y install |
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| 19:58.42 | freeone3000 | MO_Handes: Err. Or a less stupid version. xargs apt-get -y install < file |
| 20:03.30 | peterrooney | freeone3000: non-cringe version that works in both bash and dash : apt-get install $(cat file) |
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| 20:06.27 | peterrooney | MO_Handes: the "... < file" construct does not do what freeone3000 thinks it does |
| 20:06.47 | stew | i think it does |
| 20:07.03 | stew | his works fine |
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| 20:07.08 | MO_Handes | anyway, I'm using the first one and it is working, thanks |
| 20:08.12 | stew | peterrooney: did you not see the xargs part? |
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| 20:12.15 | GiBa | hello |
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| 20:13.30 | MO_Handes | hi GiBa |
| 20:13.30 | MO_Handes | :) |
| 20:14.02 | GiBa | wsup? im just derping here |
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| 20:21.41 | freeone3000 | peterrooney: Yes, it does. It will feed the file as standard input to xargs. |
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| 20:22.26 | alesan | hi, do you know if there is a package into debian to auto-mount CD and DVDs as soon as they are entered |
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| 20:24.09 | thewanderer1 | alesan, while not a clean solution, I once hacked udev to auto-mount pendrives and start playing music on a little embedded computer. should be easy to hack the rules file... |
| 20:24.16 | peterrooney | sorry, yes, I missed xargs. but why use xargs at all? |
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| 20:25.41 | thewanderer1 | alesan, apparently, it's the RUN attribute that you need to set... other than that, there might be some packages worth searching - try apt-cache search a few times, then resort to the silly hack :P |
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| 20:26.13 | MO_Handes | when will Wheezy become stable? |
| 20:26.35 | kevlarman | MO_Handes: when there are 0 release critical bugs against it |
| 20:26.39 | alesan | thewanderer1, apparently there is one for USB automount |
| 20:27.18 | MO_Handes | how can I remove an unwanted shortcut in gnome3 applications menu which points to nowhere(broken link)? |
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| 20:28.18 | AgentC | hi |
| 20:28.34 | sebas-89 | hi man |
| 20:29.01 | AgentC | is it known why after distupgrade to testing the x-server (xorg) does not start ? |
| 20:29.36 | AgentC | is this a known bug ? |
| 20:29.48 | abrotman | with what video card? |
| 20:30.18 | AgentC | HP compaq board with intel chipset integrated |
| 20:30.45 | sebas-89 | maybe would be better intsall upgrade (no dist) |
| 20:30.45 | AgentC | VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04) |
| 20:31.20 | AgentC | on squeeze it runs without problems. |
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| 20:33.15 | thewanderer1 | AgentC, how old is this hardware? the support for old GPUs is sometimes dropped... |
| 20:34.14 | AgentC | thewanderer1: dunno, it is board integrated in an older hp compaq form-pc |
| 20:34.35 | AgentC | thewanderer1: hp compaq 7100 |
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| 20:35.32 | thewanderer1 | well, looks a bit old. have you checked the X log? |
| 20:35.51 | AgentC | no |
| 20:36.07 | greylurk | Hey, I've been tossed into the role of resurrecting an old system running Debian Lenny, and when I do apt-get update it's complaining about a 404 at http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages |
| 20:36.39 | greylurk | Do I have to update to squeeze to continue to use apt? |
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| 20:37.07 | thewanderer1 | !tell greylurk about lenny sources.list |
| 20:37.29 | greylurk | Thanks thewanderer1! |
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| 20:39.48 | tremon | AgentC: intel 915 should not be dropped. |
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| 20:40.23 | thewanderer1 | yeah, only 845 has been dropped lately... but still, the log has the answer (hopefully) |
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| 20:43.42 | Jparkton | is there a doc somewhere for upgrading from squeezy to wheezy? |
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| 20:44.07 | Jparkton | I did it last night but it crammed my hard drive full of stuff and now im running way slow, |
| 20:45.00 | MO_Handes | is it enough to install wheezy cd 1 to have necessary packages + gui + gnome 3 , etc? |
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| 20:46.49 | jhutchins_lt | MO_Handes: wheezy is testing. |
| 20:47.05 | jhutchins_lt | MO_Handes: The installer is also testing. |
| 20:47.10 | stew | MO_Handes: i thought you already had wheezy installed? |
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| 20:47.32 | jhutchins_lt | MO_Handes: If you want to help test, the recommended method is to set up a dual-boot of squeeze, then upgrade one of them to wheezy. |
| 20:47.50 | belak | I've been having issues with nginx clobbering the Host header when I set it... any idea why it would be doing that? |
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| 20:49.01 | MO_Handes | stew, I do, I had squeeze installed from dvd 1 in months and today I upgraded it to Wheezy. |
| 20:49.20 | MO_Handes | I just wanted to know if I liked to download the cd |
| 20:49.22 | stew | MO_Handes: to add gnome to that just "aptitude install gnome xorg" |
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| 20:51.17 | thewanderer1 | MO_Handes, GNOME + the base system with X.org and friends are far too big to fit on one CD, you need to use an Internet connection if installing from CD1 to obtain a "complete" system |
| 20:52.58 | Jparkton | can I get rid of initrd.img.old? |
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| 20:53.48 | LittleFoot | hi gaize |
| 20:53.53 | LittleFoot | i got wine back up |
| 20:54.03 | LittleFoot | but i am missing 3 libs still |
| 20:54.20 | LittleFoot | what do these do |
| 20:54.22 | LittleFoot | libgsm 32-bit |
| 20:54.27 | LittleFoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.32 | LittleFoot | OpenCL 32-bit |
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| 20:57.27 | LittleFoot | what is openCL |
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| 20:58.19 | jhutchins_lt | LittleFoot: Ever hear of google? |
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| 20:59.01 | LittleFoot | jhutchins_lt, ever heard that ur lame |
| 20:59.30 | jhutchins_lt | LittleFoot: Seriously, you'll get much better answers that way than here. |
| 20:59.52 | LittleFoot | no i want to talk w my debian ffriend |
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| 20:59.52 | LittleFoot | s |
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| 21:00.10 | tremon | LittleFoot: there's #debian-offtopic for that |
| 21:00.11 | LittleFoot | they can tel me if i need it or not |
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| 21:00.52 | MO_Handes | is there a way to change what power button does in gnome3? |
| 21:00.59 | LittleFoot | yes |
| 21:01.08 | Jparkton | when I tried to remove gnome-games it wants to autoremove just about everything |
| 21:01.08 | LittleFoot | r u trying to make it hard restart |
| 21:01.15 | Jparkton | I do have gnome-core installed |
| 21:02.01 | MO_Handes | I want it to power off |
| 21:02.19 | LittleFoot | whats it doing now |
| 21:02.22 | MO_Handes | shutdown -P |
| 21:02.26 | MO_Handes | now |
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| 21:02.32 | MO_Handes | it suspends |
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| 21:02.39 | LittleFoot | oh |
| 21:02.56 | Jparkton | when I tried to remove gnome-games it wants to autoremove just about everything |
| 21:02.58 | Jparkton | I do have gnome-core installed |
| 21:03.09 | Jparkton | is there any logical reason for this? |
| 21:04.14 | LittleFoot | MO_Handes, look for sys prefs power management |
| 21:04.35 | LittleFoot | its also in display manager |
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| 21:06.54 | MO_Handes | I can't find any settings for that |
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| 21:21.09 | jhutchins_lt | Jparkton: when you try to remove something that was instlaled as a component of something else, the system thinks it's a necessary part of the larger package and removing it would break things, so it removes it all. |
| 21:21.36 | jhutchins_lt | Jparkton: To get around that you can mark the package as manually installed, then use aptitude to remove it, which will offer you options. |
| 21:22.12 | Jparkton | I used unmarkauto but it still wanted to remove everything |
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| 21:22.40 | Jparkton | guess im forced to keep the games |
| 21:22.43 | Jparkton | :( |
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| 21:24.41 | jhutchins_lt | Jparkton: how many different options did apatitude give you? |
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| 21:25.39 | Jparkton | jhutchins_lt, none just y/n |
| 21:25.52 | Jparkton | wants to remove 161 core components |
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| 21:30.20 | jhutchins_lt | Jparkton: If you tell aptitude no, it should offer another solution or say no more solutions. |
| 21:30.38 | abrotman | or freak out and fall over |
| 21:30.46 | Jparkton | hahaha |
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| 21:32.10 | Jparkton | jhutchins_lt, well now it says its not even installed yet I still have a games menu, also same with transmission says its not installed but still launches from menu |
| 21:32.34 | Jparkton | and udev is crammed full |
| 21:33.06 | Jparkton | after upgrading distro what do I need to do to clean up all my old stuff |
| 21:33.59 | jhutchins_lt | jordanm: What did you upgrade from-to? |
| 21:34.42 | Jparkton | squeeze to wheez |
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| 21:35.38 | Jparkton | Kartik asked me to upgrade from squeeze so I can work on the gwibber package |
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| 21:38.51 | jhutchins_lt | well, udev isn't going to be affected by having games installed. |
| 21:38.59 | abrotman | Jparkton: you could have done that in a chroot or vm |
| 21:39.14 | Jparkton | this is vm |
| 21:39.17 | Jparkton | :) |
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| 21:44.40 | Jparkton | jhutchins_lt, I also have no system menu after upgrade and I got an error about gnome3 going to fallback mode? |
| 21:45.03 | abrotman | Jparkton: how did you install X and gnome3? |
| 21:45.35 | Jparkton | abrotman, they were auto installed on upgrade |
| 21:45.48 | Jparkton | well x was already there but I had gnome2 |
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| 21:47.53 | jhutchins_lt | Jparkton: You might find more people who know what happened on #debian-next on oftc.net |
| 21:48.24 | Jparkton | jhutchins_lt, cool thanks :) |
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| 21:51.06 | Lis | Hello everyone. I try to install debian on a external usb drive. The problem is that, if I try to boot from that usb drive I only get the grub rescue prompt. I tried >set prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub >set root=(hd0,1) insmod normal but that only prints a file not found error >ls (hd0,1)/boot does only show me a empty directory |
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| 21:52.09 | thewanderer1 | Lis, shouldn't that be "msdos1" instead of just "1"? just guessing at this point |
| 21:52.42 | Lis | yes ls prints msdos1. I tried booth with the same result |
| 21:53.39 | Lis | I even started the rescue mode and run another grub-installer /dev/sdf but that doesnt change anything |
| 21:54.03 | thewanderer1 | it could be that GRUB can't load some essential modules |
| 21:54.20 | thewanderer1 | does GRUB see all disks attached to the machine? |
| 21:54.20 | Lis | Its really uggly becouse if I run grub rescue> ls (hd0,msdos1)/ it prints boot sys dev etc... |
| 21:54.36 | Lis | yes |
| 21:55.28 | thewanderer1 | try just these: set root=(hd0,msdos1); insmod normal; |
| 21:56.24 | Lis | I did run that but that gives me a file not found error |
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| 21:58.14 | thewanderer1 | oh, msdos1 is not /boot but /... |
| 21:59.58 | thewanderer1 | after setting root properly, does ls /boot produce meaningful results? |
| 22:00.37 | Lis | I also searched the web for a possible fix but nothing helps. I also run $mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt $mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev $mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys $mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc $chroot /mnt $grub-install /dev/sdf $update-grub without success |
| 22:01.25 | BenNZ | Lis: you might want to specify where /boot is |
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| 22:01.59 | Lis | BenNZ: ok, and how do I do that? |
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| 22:03.17 | BenNZ | Lis: grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sdf , provided thats where /boot is of course |
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| 22:07.08 | Lis | hm there is no such option for this grub-install BenNZ |
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| 22:09.20 | BenNZ | Lis: ok use --root-directory= then |
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| 22:10.01 | Lis | BenNZ: Same error |
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| 22:10.38 | BenNZ | Lis: whats the exact error you get? |
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| 22:11.19 | BenNZ | Lis: whats the os your chrooting from? |
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| 22:11.31 | Lis | BenNZ: when I boot from the usb drive I get "error: File not found" grub rescue> |
| 22:11.51 | Lis | BenNZ: From the debian 6 rescue console |
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| 22:13.02 | BenNZ | Lis: ok well dont worry about chrooting , and mount the usb as /mnt and run sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdf |
| 22:13.37 | veryhappy | hi guys i want to install debian now on my shuttle barebone xs35gt-v2 but i don't know if i can use the 64 bit version of debian, i don't mean i don't know if it is supported by this computer or not. 64 bit is supported on this pc but i don't know how far and how compatible 64 bit nowadays is and perhaps you can also tell me if there is 32 bit compatibility available in the 64 bit version of... |
| 22:13.37 | veryhappy | ...debian. thank you |
| 22:13.43 | BenNZ | Lis: provided /mnt is empty and you dont have a seperate /boot , and the device is /dev/sdf |
| 22:13.54 | adrakoa | hi |
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| 22:14.08 | Lis | Ah, if I do that I get "grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot (is /dev mounted?). " |
| 22:14.19 | Lis | mh |
| 22:14.35 | BenNZ | Lis: i get that when i dont use a seperate /boot |
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| 22:14.50 | Lis | well I try it again |
| 22:15.10 | sjf | /msg dpkg guidelines |
| 22:15.25 | Lis | but I did use that command already |
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| 22:15.33 | Lis | brb |
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| 22:16.47 | veryhappy | Lis perhaps that has to do something with your /etc/fstab please check that |
| 22:17.16 | stew | veryhappy: for the most part, 64 bits is fine unless you have some proprietary 32 bit stuff that only works in 32 bits. then there are 32 compatibility libraries 64 bit which have decent but not complete coverage. with the next release of debian, you'll be able to freely install both 64 bit and 32 bit packages into the same install |
| 22:18.01 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/176697 |
| 22:18.04 | tharkun | abrotman: for the record there is some mixup of mysql versions on this machine that mysqldump does not work properly. It seems some perl and sqlite will have to do the backups :(( |
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| 22:18.39 | abrotman | tharkun: i'd tell you to use pgsql, but that won't help you here |
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| 22:19.10 | veryhappy | stew: thank you. well what would you suggest me? i'd like to rather take the debian partition when i boot it up as a server install means: text mode and actually only stuff like asterisk, iscsi, apache2, ftp and so on |
| 22:19.24 | ompaul | WFPKHC: you don't have an internet address, please as root type this, service network restart I'm operating off the assumption you have a wired connection |
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| 22:19.48 | WFPKHC | no i have an internet address - i managed to fix that myself by researching via google - and now i can bring up web pages |
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| 22:20.11 | WFPKHC | but it wont allow me to do apt-get update |
| 22:20.14 | ompaul | WFPKHC: then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 22:20.26 | ompaul | WFPKHC: won't let you ... |
| 22:20.42 | ompaul | perhaps you can be more specific |
| 22:20.42 | WFPKHC | sorry i dont understand what you just said |
| 22:20.47 | WFPKHC | ok |
| 22:21.16 | WFPKHC | ok when i go to terminal and type in "apt-get update" as root |
| 22:21.21 | WFPKHC | it gives me those last linees |
| 22:21.25 | WFPKHC | and doesnt update |
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| 22:22.06 | ompaul | WFPKHC: please paste.debian.net /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:22.17 | WFPKHC | k |
| 22:22.19 | WFPKHC | 1 tick |
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| 22:25.49 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/176702 |
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| 22:26.30 | ompaul | WFPKHC: perhaps if you read the lines with deb at the start of them and the comments around them you could fix that |
| 22:26.52 | WFPKHC | ok i will but does that need to be done each time a new install is done? |
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| 22:28.32 | ompaul | WFPKHC: the reason you didn't get that far is that you didn't have it wired up on install |
| 22:28.53 | WFPKHC | oh ok - because i am installing from disk 1 only via usb stick |
| 22:28.59 | WFPKHC | so that might have had something to do with it |
| 22:29.35 | ompaul | WFPKHC: wired up on install - gets you repos automatically working |
| 22:29.49 | WFPKHC | well it didnt mention anything on install |
| 22:29.52 | WFPKHC | to wire it up |
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| 22:30.13 | ompaul | WFPKHC: it's kind of useful |
| 22:30.29 | WFPKHC | well i went through a standard install |
| 22:30.41 | ompaul | WFPKHC: it won't fail but you get to work more after the happy event (install) |
| 22:30.43 | WFPKHC | the only thing was the dhcp network configuration |
| 22:30.56 | WFPKHC | that didnt work |
| 22:31.31 | WFPKHC | so with that that i just uncomment stuff and it should work? |
| 22:32.12 | WFPKHC | um i will play around with that |
| 22:32.20 | WFPKHC | but do i have to reboot each time i change it? |
| 22:32.32 | WFPKHC | or can i run a command that allows me to just restart it like a windows service? |
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| 22:35.03 | peterrooney | thinks all installers should have debconf priority set to low by default |
| 22:35.14 | WFPKHC | waves hello |
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| 22:36.20 | peterrooney | WFPKHC: after changing sources.list, you should run apt-get update |
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| 22:37.33 | veryhappy | stew: thank you. well what would you suggest me? i'd like to rather take the debian partition when i boot it up as a server install means: text mode and actually only stuff like asterisk, iscsi, apache2, ftp and so on |
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| 22:38.51 | WFPKHC | funnily enough - i did that without knowing you typed it peterrooney |
| 22:38.53 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/176706 |
| 22:39.05 | WFPKHC | and that is what i got - nothing that asks me if i should update |
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| 22:40.11 | WFPKHC | (im very new to linux and started off with fedora and yum and im not sure if it should be reacting in the same way) |
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| 22:42.51 | dvs | WFPKHC: If you have an internet connection, you should comment out the cdrom part of your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 22:43.25 | WFPKHC | i uncommented the other bits but did not comment out the cd rom |
| 22:43.28 | WFPKHC | ill try again |
| 22:43.34 | veryhappy | at everybody: what would you suggest me? i'd like to rather take the debian partition when i boot it up as a server install means: text mode and actually only stuff like asterisk, iscsi, apache2, ftp and so on |
| 22:43.34 | JasonWoof | does gparted automatically resize filesystems when you shrink a partition? |
| 22:43.45 | peterrooney | WFPKHC: once you have apt up to date (apt-get update or aptitude update), you can then get upgrades / security updates by running apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 22:44.02 | JasonWoof | I've got a vfat partition which I'd like to make smaller, without loosing the data on it. |
| 22:44.51 | WFPKHC | k |
| 22:47.30 | WFPKHC | thank you peterrooney - your help is appreciated alot |
| 22:47.47 | WFPKHC | (as well as everyone elses input) |
| 22:47.50 | WinstonSmith | the alot again |
| 22:47.57 | veryhappy | has nobody an answer? |
| 22:48.02 | WinstonSmith | http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.de/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html |
| 22:49.06 | abrotman | WinstonSmith: hello? |
| 22:49.13 | format_c | veryhappy, have you asked a question? |
| 22:49.25 | WinstonSmith | abrotman: WFPKHC> thank you peterrooney - your help is appreciated alot |
| 22:49.47 | WinstonSmith | will stop grammar police for today |
| 22:49.47 | WFPKHC | (i would read that article except im really busy atm) |
| 22:49.50 | abrotman | ... |
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| 22:50.19 | WinstonSmith | WFPKHC: just don't take me too serious! ;-) |
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| 22:50.54 | veryhappy | format_c: yes i did. funny how i can tell you definetely that you must be a windows user like me as well because i know that format c would not work because of the security in windows nowadays :D funny name btw |
| 22:51.26 | WFPKHC | i wont take you too serious if you dont take me too serious and we will get along just fine - but please be patient with me as imi lowsy at linux and just learning |
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| 22:52.15 | WinstonSmith | WFPKHC: welcome to the wonderful world of linux! |
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| 22:52.30 | format_c | veryhappy, those days are gone for very long |
| 22:52.45 | WFPKHC | try not to remind me im still pretending like its a bad dream because nothing is working for me |
| 22:53.02 | format_c | BTW I am not a windows user |
| 22:53.18 | WFPKHC | i am |
| 22:53.23 | WFPKHC | please dont hate me |
| 22:53.30 | WinstonSmith | WFPKHC: was the same for me at the beginning, but once you're climbing the learning curve it's very nice |
| 22:53.32 | dvs | !lart WFPKHC |
| 22:53.32 | dpkg | cats /dev/urandom into WFPKHC's ear |
| 22:53.52 | format_c | WFPKHC, OK will take that into consideration ;) |
| 22:53.54 | veryhappy | format_c why do you use this name then? |
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| 22:54.12 | WFPKHC | partially finds the cat joke funny only cause i have read alot of linux doc in the last 2 weeks and i know its a command of some sort - i will have to man it |
| 22:54.30 | format_c | for history I took it several years ago when I began Linux to love and Windows to hate. |
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| 22:55.03 | WFPKHC | ive been using linux for about 2 weeks now and i do love what i get - but holy crap there is some stuff that is just way out there and im like WTF |
| 22:56.15 | format_c | Working and digging into Linux world is like dropping leashes |
| 22:56.18 | WinstonSmith | WFPKHC: but when you understand all that stuff and realize what you can do with it, _then_ you'll be WTF ;) |
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| 22:56.36 | WFPKHC | lol thanks for the support guys |
| 22:56.40 | veryhappy | format_c i understand. well i used to work earlier always with windows but nowadays i try more linux for my work then only problem is it isn't so well usable for games i guess that's also a reason why it doesn't become so popular and used by many users in the world you have to get into it |
| 22:56.47 | WFPKHC | im going to go back to reading the manual =D |
| 22:56.49 | WFPKHC | thanks for help |
| 22:56.53 | WinstonSmith | \o/ |
| 22:57.04 | WinstonSmith | reading the manual is _always_ good :D |
| 22:57.16 | format_c | alright, lets get back on topic |
| 22:57.19 | dvs | there's a manual? |
| 22:57.24 | WinstonSmith | haha |
| 22:57.37 | veryhappy | i agree with WinstonSmith |
| 22:57.39 | veryhappy | :D |
| 22:58.03 | dvs | stops randomly pressing keys |
| 22:58.06 | WinstonSmith | RTFM'ing can be a choice of life ;) |
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| 22:58.49 | veryhappy | at everybody: now i ask a question |
| 22:58.50 | veryhappy | what would you suggest me? i'd like to rather take my debian partition when i boot it up as a server install means: stuff like asterisk, iscsi, apache2, ftp and so on |
| 22:59.02 | veryhappy | 32 bit or 64 bit? |
| 22:59.25 | format_c | depends on your processor type |
| 22:59.40 | veryhappy | format_c: i know it's 64 bit compatible |
| 22:59.40 | dvs | and how much memory you have |
| 22:59.42 | veryhappy | question shall be about the compatibility |
| 22:59.45 | WinstonSmith | and how much RAM you got |
| 22:59.46 | veryhappy | with 32 bit software |
| 22:59.54 | WinstonSmith | ah too slow |
| 23:00.22 | WinstonSmith | veryhappy: more then 4 GB of RAM? |
| 23:00.37 | format_c | you just can check on packages.debian.org if there is a amd64 version of your considered spftware packages. |
| 23:01.01 | WinstonSmith | under 4 i would stay 32bit. less hassle |
| 23:01.20 | engla | use 64 if you can. it's your native arch |
| 23:01.32 | WFPKHC | i have a problem with the documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch01.en.html |
| 23:01.37 | abrotman | try them both, decide for yourself |
| 23:01.57 | veryhappy | won't you understand i just want to know if you would suggest me 64 bit for a server installation in compatibility with perhaps 32 bit software i don't if there would be any but i want to go sure that i can install even that if that's necessary because i want to try out also other stuff and my system has a fast enough processor and 2 gb memory. |
| 23:01.59 | WFPKHC | the documentation says - # apt-get install mc vim sudo |
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| 23:02.16 | WFPKHC | but it comes up with an error |
| 23:02.30 | veryhappy | which error? |
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| 23:02.56 | dvs | WFPKHC: as root? |
| 23:03.04 | WFPKHC | paste coming up |
| 23:03.16 | veryhappy | ok |
| 23:03.31 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/176712 |
| 23:03.39 | WinstonSmith | veryhappy: i would use 32bit then. i had problems building stuff from source while on 64 (obviously it was an important program), so i went back to 32bit, especially as IMHO 64 only makes sense if you have more then 4 GB of RAM |
| 23:04.12 | stew | veryhappy: if you only have 2gb of memory you should use 32 bit |
| 23:04.18 | WFPKHC | its mostly at the bottom not the top |
| 23:04.20 | pparadis | WFPKHC: -vim is a typo |
| 23:04.25 | pparadis | no - |
| 23:04.33 | WFPKHC | after that i did it with no - |
| 23:04.43 | veryhappy | WinstonSmith: you are my savior good that was everything that i wanted to know but everybody mostly just write blah blah sorry to say it like this |
| 23:04.58 | veryhappy | i know it's meant very nice but winstons answer was the only helpful one |
| 23:05.32 | engla | veryhappy: You should try to use periods and commas; it would make your comments easier to read. |
| 23:05.41 | veryhappy | engla: ok thank you for that hint |
| 23:05.48 | veryhappy | i'll do that in future |
| 23:05.54 | veryhappy | ok thank you guys |
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| 23:06.01 | WFPKHC | after that i did it with no - and it still didnt work |
| 23:06.02 | veryhappy | WinstonSmith: your site was very funny :) |
| 23:06.04 | stew | WFPKHC: you don't have a regular debian repository, you only have updates. what country are you in? |
| 23:06.11 | WinstonSmith | veryhappy: the thing is that not all stuff is available for 64 yet, especially if you want to play around. all the main packages are probably available |
| 23:06.15 | WFPKHC | Australia |
| 23:06.26 | dvs | oi |
| 23:06.27 | arjovr | /msg dpkg guidelines |
| 23:06.32 | format_c | veryhappy, check this: http://paste.debian.net/176714/ to figure out your architecture. So I'm using 64bit because I have a 64bit processor, building software from source w/o any issues. |
| 23:06.33 | veryhappy | WinstonSmith: ok good for that hint. take care |
| 23:06.39 | WinstonSmith | good luck |
| 23:06.47 | stew | WFPKHC: get rid of the ftp.debian.org lines and add "deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian squeeze main" |
| 23:06.47 | veryhappy | format_c: i know that all thank you |
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| 23:07.06 | veryhappy | WinstonSmith: thank you, see you |
| 23:07.10 | stew | WinstonSmith: everything in debian that is available for i386 is available for amd64 |
| 23:07.18 | WFPKHC | k |
| 23:07.21 | WFPKHC | brb |
| 23:07.28 | abrotman | everything ? |
| 23:07.28 | WinstonSmith | stew: i stand corrected :) |
| 23:08.45 | pparadis | stew: that's actually not true. there's are some lisp related packages, iirc, that are only available for i386 arch. |
| 23:09.05 | abrotman | pparadis: wine stuff? |
| 23:09.16 | pparadis | it tripped a guy up a while back until i pointed out that what he was trying to install was only available for i386. |
| 23:09.25 | pparadis | abrotman: nah, i remember it being lisp-related. |
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| 23:10.22 | WFPKHC | so like this ? http://paste.debian.net/176717 |
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| 23:11.08 | dvs | WFPKHC: you still don't have a main repo |
| 23:11.39 | dvs | \deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main |
| 23:11.46 | WFPKHC | sits at his keyboard and gives dvs a dumb look* |
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| 23:11.52 | dvs | WFPKHC: deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main |
| 23:11.57 | dvs | add that |
| 23:12.04 | dvs | (and the deb-src line too) |
| 23:12.10 | WFPKHC | at the top where the cd part is? |
| 23:12.25 | dvs | That's fine |
| 23:12.29 | WFPKHC | i added it at the bottom of the last past i gave |
| 23:12.33 | pparadis | WFPKHC: http://paste.debian.net/176720/ |
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| 23:13.04 | WFPKHC | hands pparadis a minty for his help |
| 23:13.21 | abrotman | pparadis: i'm saying wine packages aren't all available for both |
| 23:13.29 | pparadis | abrotman: ah, gotcha |
| 23:14.06 | stew | judd: info wine --release squeeze --arch amd64 |
| 23:14.07 | judd | Package wine (otherosfs, optional) in squeeze/amd64: Windows API implementation - standard suite. Version: 1.0.1-3.1; Size: 42.9k; Installed: 96k; Homepage: http://www.winehq.org/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/wine; RFH: #479659 |
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| 23:14.47 | abrotman | judd: info libwine --arch amd64 --release sid |
| 23:14.48 | judd | No package named 'libwine' was found in sid/amd64. |
| 23:14.56 | abrotman | not sure what happened to it |
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| 23:15.30 | engla | abrotman: it went multiarch |
| 23:15.41 | stew | abrotman: you can install the 32 bit version in sid |
| 23:15.48 | engla | abrotman: wine depends on wine-bin:i386 on amd64 now |
| 23:15.52 | engla | (testing) |
| 23:16.28 | WFPKHC | this may take a while my copy and paste isnt working in terminal - sorry brb |
| 23:18.09 | pparadis | WFPKHC: wget -O sources.list http://paste.debian.net/plain/176720 |
| 23:18.42 | dvs | WTF! ;-P |
| 23:18.47 | stew | abrotman: fix my query? why is this returning 0 rows? select b1.package from binaries_suite_arch b1 join binaries_suite_arch b2 on b1.package=b2.package where b1.suite_name='stable' and b2.suite_name='stable' and b1.arch_string='i386' and b2.arch_string='amd64' and b2.id is null; |
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| 23:19.11 | stew | answer: it needs to be a left join... |
| 23:19.30 | stew | no, its still not working |
| 23:19.41 | dvs | stew: Yeah, using the join keyword is "passe" |
| 23:19.52 | stew | dvs: eh? what would I do instead? |
| 23:20.07 | dvs | stew: use a comma instead. |
| 23:20.16 | stew | how do i use a comma and do a left join? |
| 23:20.38 | themill | stew: what are you trying to find there? |
| 23:20.52 | stew | themill: binaries in i386 not in amd64 |
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| 23:21.02 | dvs | stew: you make sure that the id columns are equal between both tables |
| 23:21.17 | stew | dvs: its the same column |
| 23:21.22 | stew | dvs: and the ids are unique |
| 23:21.31 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/176721/ and http://paste.debian.net/176722/ |
| 23:22.04 | pparadis | WFPKHC: did you run apt-get update ? |
| 23:22.05 | abrotman | stew: left join sounds right though ... |
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| 23:24.26 | WFPKHC | i did apt-get update - but if want to update stuff do i have to type "apt-get upgrade"? |
| 23:24.54 | pparadis | WFPKHC: did you "apt-get update" after you updated /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 23:24.59 | pparadis | or only before? |
| 23:25.17 | pparadis | "apt-get update" updates your package lists. |
| 23:25.22 | WFPKHC | i just typed it then and it came up with something but it didnt change anything should i paste the results? |
| 23:25.32 | pparadis | sure |
| 23:25.36 | WFPKHC | well it doesnt update it - i dont think |
| 23:26.14 | pparadis | "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" (or dist-upgrade) are two different things. |
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| 23:27.00 | pparadis | please pastebin the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list ; apt-get update && apt-get install mc vim sudo" |
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| 23:27.46 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/176723/ |
| 23:27.52 | WFPKHC | k |
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| 23:27.53 | WFPKHC | brb |
| 23:28.40 | themill | stew: I'd end up with a sub-query for that, I suspect |
| 23:29.09 | acxty | Hi guys. I have an IBM x3250 M4 with this processor Intel Xeon Quad Core 4C E3-1220. Do the AMD64 version will work with it? |
| 23:29.19 | pparadis | yes |
| 23:29.37 | pparadis | amd64 is the arch for all "normal" 64-bit processors. |
| 23:29.54 | themill | stew: UDD gives me 216 such packages in squeeze fwiw |
| 23:30.05 | abrotman | sounds sort of old ... |
| 23:30.12 | acxty | pparadis: is that the correct or optimal version for that processor? |
| 23:30.16 | pparadis | acxty: yes |
| 23:30.24 | acxty | pparadis: thanks |
| 23:30.59 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/176724/ |
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| 23:31.40 | pparadis | WFPKHC: that's still incorrect. |
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| 23:31.56 | pparadis | WFPKHC: please use this --> http://paste.debian.net/plain/176720 |
| 23:32.00 | WFPKHC | hides in shame |
| 23:32.03 | dvs | WFPKHC: erase lines 21 and 22 (duplicate of 3 and 4) |
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| 23:32.15 | dvs | or use pparadis file |
| 23:32.30 | WFPKHC | brb ill go do it now |
| 23:32.51 | pparadis | dvs: he still doesn't have main in there, either. |
| 23:33.17 | pparadis | rather "squeeze main" |
| 23:33.21 | dvs | ah |
| 23:33.27 | stew | themill: you can play now too! ssh to ries and run "psql service=projectb" |
| 23:33.33 | themill | \o/ |
| 23:34.04 | themill | you should know better than to give me big databases to play with |
| 23:34.17 | pparadis | you like big data and you cannot lie? |
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| 23:34.35 | pparadis | the other DDs can't deny? |
| 23:34.40 | WinstonSmith | ++ |
| 23:34.46 | stew | he does. he's a professor of mayonaise |
| 23:35.01 | WinstonSmith | my DBs bring all the boys to the yard |
| 23:35.26 | pparadis | is like, it's better than yours. |
| 23:35.31 | pparadis | ducks |
| 23:35.33 | WinstonSmith | i could SELECT you but i'll have to charge |
| 23:35.44 | pparadis | groan |
| 23:35.56 | WinstonSmith | ^5 |
| 23:36.13 | pparadis | ^5 /me wanders off to get a pack of smokes, bbiab :) |
| 23:36.18 | WinstonSmith | :) |
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| 23:38.46 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/plain/176726 |
| 23:38.59 | WFPKHC | i typed it out manually to the file |
| 23:39.08 | WFPKHC | thats what took me so long |
| 23:39.45 | trysten | D: |
| 23:39.51 | WFPKHC | your telling me! |
| 23:40.02 | WFPKHC | is linux normally this bloody hard? |
| 23:40.21 | Jparkton | WFPKHC, yessir |
| 23:40.54 | WFPKHC | sighs with great distress |
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| 23:41.33 | Jparkton | WFPKHC, try pressing up and enter a couple of times see if it hits those 404 |
| 23:41.34 | stew | WFPKHC: deb-src http://ftp.au.debian.org/ squeeze main should be ftp.au.debian.org/debian |
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| 23:41.54 | stew | WFPKHC: and this shouldn't stop you from installing packages, just downloading source |
| 23:42.13 | Jparkton | ^ |
| 23:42.22 | WFPKHC | so should i do the up enter or change the file? |
| 23:42.27 | dvs | WFPKHC: Yeah, you forgot a /debian in the first deb-src linek |
| 23:42.52 | Jparkton | change the file first |
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| 23:44.10 | WFPKHC | k i changed it but why couldnt i copy from paste website to nano in terminal? |
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| 23:44.27 | Jparkton | I dunno |
| 23:44.37 | Jparkton | I use vim and it allows copy pastas |
| 23:44.38 | dvs | WFPKHC: pparadis gave you a command to download the file automatically |
| 23:45.26 | WFPKHC | he did? |
| 23:45.44 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/plain/176729 |
| 23:46.02 | dvs | wget -O sources.list http://paste.debian.net/plain/176729 |
| 23:46.07 | dvs | something like that |
| 23:46.19 | WFPKHC | oh ok |
| 23:46.32 | WFPKHC | i will try that |
| 23:46.38 | dvs | <pparadis> WFPKHC: wget -O sources.list http://paste.debian.net/plain/176720 |
| 23:47.18 | WFPKHC | what happens when that expires? |
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| 23:47.43 | dvs | What? The page? Then the command won't work anymore |
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| 23:50.37 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/plain/176733 |
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| 23:52.03 | dvs | WFPKHC: What's in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 23:52.09 | dz2 | I'm running fdisk to repartition an external drive. p tells that there are no partitions. I type a and 1 but i am not asked for size. |
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| 23:52.21 | engla | WFPKHC: you didn't put the sources.list into /etc/apt ? |
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| 23:52.37 | dvs | Oh, the command was wrong |
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| 23:52.49 | liveuser | hey guys |
| 23:52.56 | WFPKHC | is not lost and cries all over dvs' shoulder |
| 23:53.04 | WFPKHC | is now lost and cries all over dvs' shoulder |
| 23:53.08 | dvs | WFPKHC: wget -O sources.list http://paste.debian.net/plain/176720 |
| 23:53.16 | WFPKHC | i did that see the past |
| 23:53.20 | WFPKHC | i did that see the paste |
| 23:53.28 | engla | command wrong or user can't do anything by themselves |
| 23:53.32 | liveuser | i destroy my distro today |
| 23:53.37 | liveuser | now i have one live cd |
| 23:53.52 | liveuser | and i have to choose a new distro |
| 23:54.09 | liveuser | any recommends _ |
| 23:54.21 | WFPKHC | http://paste.debian.net/plain/176733 |
| 23:54.30 | abrotman | liveuser: this is #debian, try Debian |
| 23:54.38 | abrotman | liveuser: if you want other recommendations, try ##linux |
| 23:54.48 | WFPKHC | pokes abrotman* i see what you did there |
| 23:56.01 | dvs | WFPKHC: "updates" is spelled wrong in the second last line |
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| 23:57.34 | dvs | (but it is right in http://paste.debian.net/plain/176720) |
| 23:57.59 | WFPKHC | scratches my head because i did the wget which you said |
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| 23:59.12 | engla | WFPKHC: I've already said it, you downloaded the file but didn't put it in the correct place |
| 23:59.46 | WFPKHC | face palms |
| 23:59.50 | WFPKHC | sorry for being stupid guys |
