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| 00:15.48 | kingsley | Is my understanding correct that there's no package which lets you control the keyboard and mouse with commands spoken into the microphone? |
| 00:16.32 | pparadis | kingsley: you might be interested in the goals of --> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-accessibility/ |
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| 00:17.21 | oss117 | =) |
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| 00:18.40 | lasers | diabel: From what I read, ng seems like to be an efficent version of apt-catcher. :) |
| 00:19.44 | oss117 | so far so good |
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| 00:29.11 | Supaplex | shall try http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Rescue/Crypto |
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| 00:35.30 | Guest27387 | hi |
| 00:35.48 | ksm | So I have a very serious question here |
| 00:36.04 | ksm | I just removed a couple of kernels I no longer used, and stuff related to them using apt-get |
| 00:36.15 | ksm | and it deleted /vmlinuz and /initrd.img |
| 00:36.24 | ksm | is it okay if I just softlink them back |
| 00:36.38 | oss117 | =) |
| 00:36.46 | dvs | ksm: sure, you may have to rerun lilo |
| 00:36.57 | ksm | I have grub |
| 00:37.06 | dvs | that too |
| 00:37.20 | ksm | running update-grub now |
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| 00:38.42 | pparadis | dvs: you're showing your age with that lilo reference ;) |
| 00:38.52 | dvs | eh sunny? |
| 00:39.30 | pparadis | mumbles something about get off my lawn && dvs is always invited because he's old and we can bitch about the good old days ;) |
| 00:39.44 | dvs | heh |
| 00:40.03 | oss117 | lilo is depreciated ? |
| 00:40.34 | pparadis | grub has been the new hotness so long with debian it's done gone cooled off now. |
| 00:40.53 | oss117 | ok :) |
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| 00:51.17 | bitonic | I vaguely remember a way to list all explicitly installed packages (the ones for which I actually invoked `apt-get install' or `dpkg -i'). Is there a way to do that? |
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| 00:51.27 | peterrooney | GNU just declared grub2 stable this week, this should make the debian freeze smoother. |
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| 00:51.53 | dvs | after how long? |
| 00:51.57 | simonlnu | old news ;) |
| 00:52.00 | simonlnu | 10y |
| 00:52.02 | dvs | ,v grub2 |
| 00:52.03 | judd | Package: grub2 on i386 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16; lenny-backports: 1.97~beta3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; sid: 1.99-22.1; wheezy: 1.99-22.1 |
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| 00:54.10 | woshty | peterrooney: there is nothing about grub2 that is in any way smooth |
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| 00:56.57 | phantomcircuit | i have php5-intl installed but gettext isn't working |
| 00:57.06 | phantomcircuit | and there aren't any errors in the log |
| 00:57.19 | phantomcircuit | it just results in the default text being displayed |
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| 00:57.40 | oss117 | =) |
| 00:59.13 | fireant | I had to use grub2 today as other bootloaders couldn't read btrfs, confusing at first but works fine ;) |
| 01:03.15 | ponyofdeath | anyone else getting segfaults with xorg + fglrx from unstable? |
| 01:03.32 | pparadis | phantomcircuit: you might want to /join #php on irc.oftc.net or irc.freenode.net |
| 01:03.49 | phantomcircuit | pparadis, i was afraid of that |
| 01:04.11 | oss117 | =) |
| 01:04.15 | pparadis | phantomcircuit: sorry man, i avoid php like the plague after years of misery dealing with it. |
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| 01:06.10 | phantomcircuit | pparadis, im slowly replacing it |
| 01:06.16 | phantomcircuit | it's only used for display right now |
| 01:06.26 | pparadis | phantomcircuit: you're halfway there, then. |
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| 01:06.37 | oss117 | =) |
| 01:06.38 | phantomcircuit | unfortunately this has to work like |
| 01:06.40 | phantomcircuit | yesterday |
| 01:07.09 | pparadis | truly, if you've got something that has to be Working Right Now Or Else, #php may be a good place to camp. |
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| 01:08.52 | oss117 | =) |
| 01:09.00 | pparadis | oss117: stop. |
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| 01:09.28 | oss117 | =) |
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| 01:09.57 | oss117 | I will turn my script off then |
| 01:10.03 | pparadis | !ops oss117 is either a useless bot of a crapfiller. |
| 01:10.03 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: pparadis complains about: oss117 is either a useless bot of a crapfiller. |
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| 01:26.08 | roboman2444 | hrmph |
| 01:26.14 | roboman2444 | when will amd support xorg 1.12 |
| 01:26.34 | pparadis | ask amd :) |
| 01:26.38 | roboman2444 | and what is the problem with 1.12? why does fglrx crash? |
| 01:27.11 | pparadis | abi changs that mean fglrx and xorg no worky. |
| 01:27.22 | pparadis | well, fglrx no worky. |
| 01:27.24 | oss117 | =) |
| 01:27.29 | roboman2444 | hm |
| 01:27.40 | roboman2444 | how hard would it be for amd to fix its shit? |
| 01:27.42 | pparadis | oss117: seriously, stop. you're spamming the channel with that at this point. |
| 01:27.45 | SJr | I'm unsure from lsof how to tell if a process has a lock or not. on file. Should I see basically under the FD something like 22ww if it is writing the file and has a write lock? |
| 01:28.00 | SJr | Here is an example output |
| 01:28.01 | SJr | java 19603 seramage 22u REG 0,158 5 15531411 /ubc/cs/home/s/seramage/surrogate-syncfiles/surrogate-817d8e77-0ae4-46cf-aa5f-b4c04ca5ef6b-arrow06-seramage (netapp5.cs.ubc.ca:/vol/CPSC_dept12/home) |
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| 01:29.31 | oss117 | sorry I didnt knew to smile was associated to spam I wont dont it again |
| 01:29.32 | pparadis | SJr: http://www.linuxask.com/questions/how-to-check-if-a-file-is-locked-in-linux |
| 01:30.04 | pparadis | oss117: any content that serves no purpose and is repeatedly posted is spam (otherwise known as garbage). |
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| 01:30.41 | freeone3000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.52 | oss117 | =) |
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| 01:31.30 | oss117 | to my point of view it is only a way to tell you are reading it and you are there even you dont put any comments about it |
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| 01:31.41 | oss117 | but ok sorry, dont ban :) |
| 01:31.49 | jagginess | oss117: hdparm? hdparm isnt part of mdadm |
| 01:32.07 | roboman2444 | if it would be easy for amd to fix, why havent they? |
| 01:32.10 | jagginess | freeone3000: sorry |
| 01:32.17 | freeone3000 | jagginess: Right. Nor is smartctl. I've been at this for a few days, this is my results summary. |
| 01:32.18 | jagginess | ignores oss117 |
| 01:33.00 | freeone3000 | jagginess: Basically, SMART thinks that my sectors are bad, but when I actually try to use them, there's no problem. |
| 01:33.24 | jagginess | freeone3000: i don't know how to deal with hdparm showing errors.. but basically i try not to hang on to the drive and would rather change it asap |
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| 01:33.37 | freeone3000 | jagginess: I need that drive to rebuild the raid. |
| 01:33.53 | freeone3000 | jagginess: I will be able to change it six hours and twenty minutes after I get it to work. |
| 01:34.19 | jagginess | freeone3000: you sure you can't try to have a degraded array without it? |
| 01:34.41 | freeone3000 | jagginess: The array is already degraded, due to a drive that had a complete, actual failure. |
| 01:35.05 | jagginess | freeone3000: well the metadata is within the linux raid partitions.. I don't know how strict mdadm looks in the mbr block |
| 01:35.07 | freeone3000 | (didn't respond to smart, didn't respond to hdparm, couldn't be read from...) |
| 01:35.33 | freeone3000 | jagginess: The sector numbers are in the 2-million-ish range. It's not part of the MBR. |
| 01:36.10 | jagginess | freeone3000: i'm specualting if you can get away with it by forcing a read using dd |
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| 01:37.05 | jagginess | (,or dd_rescue) |
| 01:38.17 | freeone3000 | jagginess: The primary issue with that is I really don't have a place to put 2TB of blank space. |
| 01:38.20 | jagginess | freeone3000: i know what's part of the mbr. I'm saying i don't know if mdadm requires metadata from the mbr block.. |
| 01:38.45 | freeone3000 | jagginess: No. I'm using version 1.2 metadata. It doesn't even check the part table. |
| 01:38.56 | jagginess | freeone3000: but are you able to read part of it with a tool? |
| 01:39.08 | freeone3000 | jagginess: dd can read the bad sectors just fine. |
| 01:39.14 | jagginess | hmm |
| 01:39.16 | jagginess | hold on |
| 01:40.06 | jagginess | freeone3000: isn't therea a daemon service for smartctl? maybe try shutting that down, or turn off smart completely from the bios? |
| 01:40.43 | freeone3000 | jagginess: There's smartmontools. I've stopped it. Should that be sufficient? |
| 01:41.11 | freeone3000 | jagginess: If that fails, I'll try disabling it from the bios, then re-enabling it after the rebuild. I just need things to try. |
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| 01:42.32 | jagginess | freeone3000: did you try to use -T TYPE, --tolerance=TYPE with smartctl ? http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/man/smartctl.8.html (just in case you'd prefer to have smart daemon on) |
| 01:42.48 | jagginess | "verypermissive - equivalent to giving a large number of '-T permissive' options: ignore failures of any number of mandatory SMART commands. Please see the note above. " |
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| 01:43.45 | freeone3000 | jagginess: I can live without monitoring for a few hours. The worst it can do is lose all my data, which'll happen if this RAID can't be rebuilt anyway. |
| 01:44.23 | jagginess | freeone3000: you should dd that drive on a separate system.. |
| 01:44.35 | freeone3000 | jagginess: It doesn't boot from the RAID. |
| 01:44.36 | jagginess | freeone3000: the drive can mess up the powersupply |
| 01:45.08 | freeone3000 | Oh. Hmm. Don't really have a separate system that'll allow dd passthrough. |
| 01:45.13 | jagginess | ok |
| 01:45.24 | jagginess | well you should always have a spare drive :) |
| 01:45.40 | oss117 | :) |
| 01:45.50 | oss117 | sorry I have smiled again |
| 01:45.53 | oss117 | =) |
| 01:46.11 | dvs | *plonk* |
| 01:46.14 | freeone3000 | jagginess: I have spare *drives*. I've just ran out of places to stick them. :) |
| 01:46.54 | freeone3000 | jagginess: With smartmon off and mdadm --force --force, it's going ahead even with read failures on the initial read. Seems to be rebuilding fine, for now... |
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| 01:47.24 | bitblt | hey guys, what throws this "type=1404 audit...." is that auditd or selinux? |
| 01:47.26 | jagginess | freeone3000: well you should get a new drive.. i wouldnt do what you're doing.. you'll have to get another drive anyways.. |
| 01:47.34 | freeone3000 | jagginess: But I'll have my data. |
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| 01:49.03 | jagginess | bitblt: trying the root password, i'm almost through hang on |
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| 01:50.42 | freeone3000 | jagginess: Thanks a ton for the help. Finally got this working, even if it's against your judgement. :) |
| 01:50.57 | jagginess | freeone3000: it's already finished? |
| 01:51.15 | jagginess | freeone3000: sounds liek you just recovered your text file.. |
| 01:51.16 | freeone3000 | jagginess: It's at 8%, which is 6% further than the previous failure, and I can see the failure events racking up in the mdadm log. |
| 01:51.32 | freeone3000 | jagginess: So it's going to continue despite the errors, which means I have a chance of getting something. |
| 01:51.43 | jagginess | freeone3000: doing this beats the purpose of using a raid in the first place... |
| 01:51.51 | oss117 | =) |
| 01:51.53 | jagginess | freeone3000: it's not practical to continue using a faulty drive.. |
| 01:52.09 | freeone3000 | jagginess: It's mostly out of spite at this point. The PREVIOUS two weeks were spent fixing my RAID superblocks - two were 0.9, the rest were 1.2. So. |
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| 01:52.39 | freeone3000 | jagginess: It's not a long term thing. I'm not going to *keep* using it. I'm going to use it to rebuild the RAID onto the fifth drive, then I'll swap it out. |
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| 01:57.07 | Chimney-bored | hi |
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| 01:57.32 | chimney | where is the offtopic channel? |
| 01:57.35 | bitblt | haro |
| 01:57.46 | pparadis | chimney: #debian-offtopic |
| 01:57.59 | chimney | pparadis: thanks |
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| 02:00.50 | jhutchins | Anybody know of an archive of dmm for lenny? |
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| 02:06.33 | pparadis | jhutchins: http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/ |
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| 02:06.49 | pparadis | jhutchins: have you considered upgrading that system to squeeze? |
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| 02:12.40 | Ephexeve | Hey guys, how can I disable the password for apt-get? |
| 02:12.55 | Ephexeve | how do I do this in visudo? |
| 02:12.56 | pparadis | Ephexeve: that has to be run with root permissions. |
| 02:13.03 | stew | Ephexeve: there isn't a password for apt-get. can you show us what exactly you are talking about? |
| 02:13.27 | Ephexeve | pparadis: Yes, I know guys. I mean, sudo apt-get it ask for the password for sudo, how can I disable ONLY for apt-get? |
| 02:13.49 | pparadis | Ephexeve: why do you want to do that? |
| 02:14.19 | Ephexeve | pparadis: Don't feel like putting the password everytime |
| 02:14.32 | pfred1 | Ephexeve man sudoers |
| 02:14.40 | bitblt | soo anyone know? what throws this "type=1404 audit...." is that auditd or selinux? |
| 02:14.42 | mike42 | Ephexeve, you may find this helpful http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/01/make-sudo-stop-asking-for-password-when.html |
| 02:14.44 | bitblt | in dmesg |
| 02:14.59 | Ephexeve | mike42: cheers |
| 02:18.25 | jagginess | bitblt: i thought that was me, trying to login as root on your system.. did you see my attempts? |
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| 02:23.48 | bitblt | jagginess, erm... |
| 02:23.58 | bitblt | probably not, this is a private box in a private dc lol |
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| 02:27.41 | jagginess | bitblt: 1404 |
| 02:27.46 | jagginess | just typed=1404 |
| 02:28.06 | jagginess | wonders if he did an auditd or a selinux syntax |
| 02:28.35 | bitblt | yeah it's weird |
| 02:28.41 | OrigenAG | Hey Guys, I have a problem where when I load the Debian installed my keyboard doesnt work anymore. According to the FAQ this issue can be resolved with the boot flag "boot: linux noapic nolapic". Does this mean I need to manually customise the ISO to implement the solution? |
| 02:28.43 | bitblt | seems like it's auditing the whole stupid fs or something |
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| 02:30.02 | jagginess | bitblt: did you do a rescue mount on it before? try resetting or updating the labels if you did |
| 02:30.12 | bitblt | hmm |
| 02:30.40 | bitblt | it's odd though...it's happening on every system (we've done at least a dozen)....all were shutdown cleanly |
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| 02:34.49 | jagginess | bitblt: maybe somebody there didnt do a proper shutdown and kicked the power switch |
| 02:35.29 | jagginess | thinks top ladder moons are more prone to hit switches |
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| 03:13.42 | hotwings | so when i get to the grub installation part of debian testing netinstall... i do not want it to write to the MBR of the first disk, which is not where ive installed debian.. i want it on the MBR of /dev/sdc. can i do this from within the installer or do i have to boot into debian first? |
| 03:14.22 | dvs | hotwings: The expert install will let you do it. |
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| 03:23.31 | Supaplex | in testing, how can I find other packages with Tag hardware::camera and use::monitor ? apt-cache can show zoneminder, but I'm looking for similar packages |
| 03:24.06 | stew | Supaplex: use axi-cache search and hit tab a lot |
| 03:25.11 | stew | when you give it some terms and hit tab it starts being smart about what to offer to complete for you next |
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| 03:35.53 | stew | no, i refuse |
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| 03:40.00 | hotwings | dvs - i didnt see an option for expert install :\ |
| 03:40.46 | hotwings | actually i didnt see a debian install screen. i made the bootable usb stick im booting from with unetbootin, chose testing hdmedia amd64, and put the amd64 testing netinst iso on it |
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| 05:23.01 | MrGeneral | Hello need help. http://pastebin.com/u8jKKM46 what hall I do? |
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| 05:25.00 | sney | !bat |
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| 05:54.55 | namoamitabuddha | Is Debian frozen now? |
| 05:55.18 | namoamitabuddha | Debian Wheezy |
| 05:55.38 | jparkton | yupp |
| 05:55.47 | jparkton | according to rumor that is |
| 05:56.05 | namoamitabuddha | intend in June 30. |
| 05:56.11 | namoamitabuddha | But I don't know the timezone. |
| 05:56.33 | jparkton | so wait till the 31st |
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| 06:07.32 | jubei | guys whenever I login via ssh, it takes a while until the password prompt to come up |
| 06:07.40 | jubei | and I think it's related to the misconfiguration of my hostname |
| 06:07.59 | rjanja | add the -v flag and see what it's doing |
| 06:08.01 | jubei | i.e. for some reason when I try to login the server tries to see if it's hostname resolves to it's IP or something like that |
| 06:08.06 | jubei | does that make any sense? |
| 06:08.19 | jubei | rjanja, are you referring to me? |
| 06:08.28 | rjanja | if you want verbose output from ssh |
| 06:08.33 | jubei | rjanja, ic |
| 06:09.02 | rjanja | and yes the remote server could be trying to reverse resolve your IP |
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| 06:09.50 | jubei | rjanja, thanks for the -v, apparently it's trying a public key (RSA) and when that fails it prompts me for password |
| 06:09.59 | jubei | though I have no public key stored for that server |
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| 06:10.24 | rjanja | where's the noticeably delay? before a connection is made? |
| 06:10.42 | rjanja | s/noticeably/noticeable |
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| 06:20.26 | mah454 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:31.39 | jparkton | I keep getting this error when trying to decrypt my file http://paste.debian.net/177025/ |
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| 06:34.18 | pparadis | jparkton: that's happening because the secret key for your keyring isn't available. are you using the same machine you generated the encrypting key on? |
| 06:34.45 | jparkton | yes |
| 06:35.24 | pparadis | jparkton: i'll try to talk you through gpg from start to finish tomorrow. right now, i'm falling asleep at the keyboard and have to go to bed. |
| 06:36.56 | jparkton | np |
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| 06:55.06 | jubei | rjanja, the delay is after the username is entered |
| 06:55.17 | jubei | rjanja, I'm guessing it's related to the RSA key |
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| 07:50.07 | lilibox | hi |
| 07:50.38 | lilibox | i am lookign for help here, i am guessing about to change MoBo |
| 07:51.24 | lilibox | both running ATOM CPU and i wanna know real cpu benchmark difference, any CPU benchmark app running from command line or in ncurses? |
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| 07:58.07 | ompaul | eh - ncurses benchmarks - in the immortal words of John Mcenroe You CANNOT BE SERIOUS MANNNNNNNN |
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| 08:00.38 | ompaul | lilibox: eh, if you are running a machine and ncurses or some dopey bash script is not displaying quickly enough to not appear instantaneously well ehh I think the problem domain is somewhere else |
| 08:00.57 | lilibox | oh, i mean result can be show in ncurses environment |
| 08:01.10 | lilibox | my debian runs as something like server remotely |
| 08:01.16 | lilibox | no real GUI |
| 08:02.08 | ompaul | there are several dialog creating tools, your mileage may vary |
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| 08:05.11 | firebalrog | dstat |
| 08:05.29 | firebalrog | i think it was |
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| 08:08.19 | lilibox | thank you for direction, but i am looking for something like real cpu bench |
| 08:09.52 | Supaplex | ponders on that, while an NMI pops up |
| 08:09.54 | Supaplex | fsck: warning, /dev/brain has gone countless hours without sleep. check forced. zzZZzzz |
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| 08:19.12 | daniel-s | hi, I got this: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'phonon-backend-vlc'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
| 08:19.50 | daniel-s | apt-get -f dist-upgrade -o APT::Immediate-Configure=0 |
| 08:19.54 | daniel-s | ^does not work |
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| 08:31.37 | mah454 | default gnome-shell theme is adwaita , How can change this default ? |
| 08:31.39 | daniel-s | I'm removing kdebase, then going to try again |
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| 08:47.53 | monster | I am havinng trouble getting my wifi to work |
| 08:48.48 | monster | If I do lspci | grep -i net |
| 08:48.51 | monster | the output is |
| 08:49.24 | monster | 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) |
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| 09:09.01 | daniel-s | for some reason, apt-get install gnome worked |
| 09:09.09 | daniel-s | where dist-upgrade didn't |
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| 09:21.56 | Freso | Is there any place the Debian 2.2 ISOs are available for download? |
| 09:21.57 | begaei | Is there any place the Debian 2.2 ISOs are available for download? |
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| 09:25.21 | Freso | The oldest ones available on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ are 3.0 releases, and I haven't found anything reliable DuckDuckGo'ing yet. |
| 09:25.22 | begaei | The oldest ones available on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ are 3.0 releases, and I haven't found anything reliable DuckDuckGo'ing yet. |
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| 09:37.22 | morteza_ipo | I have a subproccess that I can't to kill it , kill -9 5521 , but it changed process number |
| 09:37.37 | morteza_ipo | how can I kill it? |
| 09:38.28 | cthuluh | first, stop using -9 |
| 09:38.45 | korkman | then find it's parent which respawns children |
| 09:38.49 | cthuluh | then, subprocess of what? have you tried pstree/htop? |
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| 09:39.02 | korkman | +1 pstree |
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| 09:40.16 | cthuluh | ps -o ppid -p "$pid" would be enough in most cases, though |
| 09:40.48 | korkman | my dolphin opens files on vfs paths via temporary downloaded files instead of opening the vfs path in the program. is that a tunable somewhere? |
| 09:41.08 | korkman | it's new since the 4.8 update i think |
| 09:42.12 | sidro | wheezy is freezed ? |
| 09:42.56 | korkman | should be since today. that's why the rush of updates came in lately. |
| 09:43.13 | morteza_ipo | thanks , solved |
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| 09:52.58 | korkman | how do i tell dolphin to use the vfs (sftp://) path for opening files with associated programs? |
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| 10:26.40 | suborbital | respect. |
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| 10:27.33 | suborbital | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.51 | suborbital | reminds me of openBSd'' |
| 10:28.06 | suborbital | and arch. |
| 10:28.25 | jubei | what does it me for something to "be off the chain" |
| 10:29.15 | suborbital | beter then good. |
| 10:29.28 | suborbital | sets a template for others to use. |
| 10:29.39 | suborbital | think debian has done that quite well acutally |
| 10:29.50 | suborbital | signal to noise ratio and all |
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| 10:30.42 | jubei | suborbital, i'm more interested in the etymological origin of the phrase. I understood it's a positive meaning butÂ… just wondering where that expression came from |
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| 10:31.20 | suborbital | thinkit was mid 90's |
| 10:31.38 | suborbital | some well almost 20 years ago |
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| 10:31.56 | ronny | hi |
| 10:32.28 | jubei | suborbital, i found it: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=off%20the%20chain |
| 10:32.35 | jubei | ronny, hi |
| 10:32.42 | ronny | my rood partition grew to 18 gb, its not /tmp and /var, whats a good way to figure whats wasting the space and how to clean |
| 10:33.07 | suborbital | i need to add the perl sripts for this :( |
| 10:33.13 | suborbital | fresh install jubei |
| 10:34.05 | ronny | *root |
| 10:34.14 | suborbital | lol 2010 |
| 10:34.25 | tremon | ronny: du |
| 10:34.32 | suborbital | anyway - RESPECT debian |
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| 10:46.00 | ronny | tremon: it seems to spread out evenly across various packages, its hard to tell how to reduce usage |
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| 10:48.43 | tremon | ronny: paste the output of du -ahx -d2 / | sort -h |
| 10:49.59 | tremon | !paste |
| 10:50.00 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 10:50.03 | tremon | just to be sure... |
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| 10:57.41 | ronny | tremon: http://paste.debian.net/177051/ |
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| 11:00.07 | tremon | ronny: /var/cache can be cleaned, depending on which program is using the space. Other than that, install less programs and examine /usr/share to find out which to uninstall |
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| 11:00.30 | raptor67682 | could pulseaudio NOT be by default instal in the next stable Debian (with alsa) ? |
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| 11:01.11 | tremon | raptor67682: it isn't installed by default. However, it is a hard dependency of Gnome3 which you will get if you choose the default desktop environment |
| 11:01.26 | ronny | tremon: i killed a few games now, but its still pretty hard to figure what to uninstall |
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| 11:02.01 | nsadmin | t |
| 11:02.14 | raptor67682 | tremon: well, for gnome, only newbies use gnome... uffff you make me relieved ;) |
| 11:02.42 | raptor67682 | tremon: I am glad that debian is not forcing users to use non necessary packags ;) lucky |
| 11:02.49 | nsadmin | raptor67682, whoever wants to can use gnome |
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| 11:04.02 | tremon | ronny: maybe someone knows a command that can easily show which packages use the most space, but that command would only work for managed packages. Did you install things in /usr manually? |
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| 11:04.43 | themill | !dpigs |
| 11:04.43 | dpkg | dpigs is a utility showing which installed packages occupy the most space. Available in the debian-goodies package. |
| 11:04.57 | tremon | yay :) |
| 11:05.50 | nsadmin | raptor67682, right, you can install what you want (within reason), and you don't have to install anything you don't want (except the base) |
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| 11:06.38 | raptor67682 | nsadmin: I am so happy of that ... it is really a great thing this server install |
| 11:07.11 | nsadmin | as long as you follow certain rules, it's pretty hard to break it |
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| 11:07.36 | nsadmin | so, did the freeze happen? |
| 11:08.39 | Freso | Is there any place the Debian 2.2 ISOs are available for download? |
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| 11:08.43 | Freso | The oldest ones available on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ are 3.0 releases, and I haven't found anything reliable DuckDuckGo'ing yet. |
| 11:08.58 | nsadmin | cv, archive.debian.org |
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| 11:09.08 | nsadmin | err Freso |
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| 11:10.25 | tremon | I don't think the installer iso's are on archive.d.o, at least haven't found them yet |
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| 11:10.52 | nsadmin | you want to install a 2.2? |
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| 11:14.40 | nsadmin | and 2,2 is too old to have a live cd with installer... it probably uses boot-floppies instead of debian-instalelr |
| 11:14.46 | diablo9 | i am having trouble getting a realtek NIC to work lspci is 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) |
| 11:15.12 | tremon | ,i firmware-realtek |
| 11:15.14 | judd | Package firmware-realtek (non-free/kernel, optional) in squeeze/i386: Binary firmware for Realtek wired and wireless network adapters. Version: 0.28+squeeze1; Size: 131.4k; Installed: 336k; Homepage: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git |
| 11:15.28 | Freso | nsadmin: No. And floppies can still use ISO files for flashing. |
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| 11:15.48 | Freso | But ah well. |
| 11:16.00 | nsadmin | Freso, "no" you don't want a 2.2? or? |
| 11:16.26 | Freso | nsadmin: I want one, but not for purposes of installing/running. |
| 11:16.35 | diablo9 | i have done apt-get install firmware-realtek |
| 11:16.53 | tremon | diablo9: did you install the firmware? It's only necessary for some models but generic rtl8139 has been in the kernel for ages |
| 11:16.54 | diablo9 | am i missing something? in lsmod i see 8139cp 15941 0 |
| 11:16.54 | nsadmin | diablo9, try ifconfig -a |
| 11:17.05 | diablo9 | it is not listed during ifconfig -a |
| 11:17.05 | tremon | diablo9: ah, nm then |
| 11:17.08 | diablo9 | hmm |
| 11:17.24 | diablo9 | im just having trouble figuring out what the next step of troubleshooting this is |
| 11:17.26 | nsadmin | maybe the driver is not inserted |
| 11:17.39 | tremon | diablo9: did you reboot/reload the module after installing firmware? |
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| 11:19.03 | nsadmin | let's see which card it is... diablo9, that line you posted was from lspci? could you show the same line but with lspci -nn? |
| 11:19.23 | diablo9 | yes |
| 11:19.27 | nsadmin | thanks |
| 11:19.27 | tremon | diablo9: there's also a 8139too module btw (for somewhat-compatible nics) |
| 11:19.31 | diablo9 | 04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10) |
| 11:19.32 | diablo9 | with nn |
| 11:19.45 | nsadmin | , pciid [10ec:8139] |
| 11:19.47 | judd | [10ec:8139] is 'RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel modules '8139too', '8139cp' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8139 |
| 11:19.53 | diablo9 | yeah i see the 8139too in lsmod as well |
| 11:20.00 | diablo9 | maybe i have to blacklist one? |
| 11:20.19 | nsadmin | I'm stumpped... still not in ifconfig -a? |
| 11:20.23 | tremon | shouldn't be necessary, iirc one depends on the other |
| 11:20.31 | nsadmin | that is you only have lo |
| 11:20.33 | nsadmin | ? |
| 11:20.56 | tremon | diablo9: can you paste dmesg somewhere? |
| 11:21.01 | diablo9 | 1 moment |
| 11:21.11 | nsadmin | yeah, that'd be great |
| 11:21.59 | diablo9 | dmesg > http://pastebin.com/rLBYCaNn |
| 11:22.48 | tremon | lol... "This (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip, use 8139too" |
| 11:23.05 | diablo9 | ok so i should do rmmod 8139cp |
| 11:23.06 | diablo9 | ? |
| 11:23.45 | tremon | I'd rmmod both, then reload 8139too. it's worth a try |
| 11:23.54 | nsadmin | [ 7.303493] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready |
| 11:23.55 | nsadmin | [ 9.981090] tg3 0000:02:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex |
| 11:23.58 | ronny | tremon: there is some python stuff installed manually - but thats in /usr/local and not noteworthy |
| 11:24.08 | diablo9 | eth0 is NOT the card i am having trouble with |
| 11:24.18 | diablo9 | there are 2 cards |
| 11:24.21 | korkman | dolphin opens files on vfs paths via temporary downloadeds instead of opening the vfs path in the program. even native kde programs. is that normal? |
| 11:24.45 | tremon | ronny: did you see the factoid from themill? |
| 11:24.47 | diablo9 | after i rmmod should i reboot and THEN inmod? |
| 11:24.57 | ronny | tremon: yup, installing that now |
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| 11:25.14 | nsadmin | ok, so at this point if you run ifconfig -a again, the one you want doesn't show up still? |
| 11:25.16 | tremon | diablo9: no reboot necessary |
| 11:25.22 | diablo9 | ty |
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| 11:25.38 | tremon | "8139too: Chip not responding, ignoring board" |
| 11:25.51 | tremon | "8139too: probe of 0000:04:00.0 failed with error -5" |
| 11:26.01 | nsadmin | is it plugged in tight into the slot? |
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| 11:26.19 | Aha2Y | q |
| 11:26.22 | diablo9 | hmm |
| 11:26.28 | nsadmin | ouch... card is bad? |
| 11:26.32 | diablo9 | oh |
| 11:26.34 | tremon | diablo9: if rmmod and modprobe works, it's probably a good idea to blacklist the -cp, but like I said, that's highly unusual |
| 11:26.35 | diablo9 | must have missed that |
| 11:26.51 | diablo9 | going to go reseat it and try again,brb |
| 11:27.08 | nsadmin | with the power off of course |
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| 11:28.28 | nsadmin | so I'm running kde and I installed compiz... I since rebooted... am I running compiz now? |
| 11:29.17 | tremon | doesn't compiz conflict with kwin? you can try compiz --replace (iirc), if nothing happens then yes, you were running compiz |
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| 11:29.53 | nsadmin | would it look vastly different from the normal wm? |
| 11:30.06 | nsadmin | it looks exactly the same |
| 11:30.12 | tremon | uses neither |
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| 11:31.10 | korkman | nsadmin: you can choose compiz as window manager in kde settings i think |
| 11:31.30 | nsadmin | korkman, cool, I'll try that |
| 11:31.57 | korkman | searches through the prefs |
| 11:32.16 | nsadmin | I'm running squeeze |
| 11:32.17 | korkman | "Default-components" |
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| 11:32.23 | diablo9 | success |
| 11:32.34 | nsadmin | diablo9 :) |
| 11:32.34 | korkman | "window manager" |
| 11:32.42 | korkman | translates german to english |
| 11:32.43 | diablo9 | i believe my pci expansion thing was not all the way in its slot |
| 11:32.57 | diablo9 | this is an optiplex gx280 |
| 11:32.59 | diablo9 | sff |
| 11:33.16 | tremon | nsadmin: apparently your crystal ball is better than mine :) |
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| 11:34.11 | ronny | hmm, down to 13 gb system, i wonder if there are tools to help me find packages of the category accidentially installed when messing around |
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| 11:34.41 | nsadmin | tremon, it was the only thing to follow into if you assume the hardware is good |
| 11:35.10 | tremon | yeah, well I hadn't even realised it could be an expansion card :) |
| 11:35.36 | nsadmin | I suspected there could be at least one card when he said two nics |
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| 11:36.49 | nsadmin | but yeah, it was guesses |
| 11:36.51 | tremon | ronny: I don't think there is an ?dont-want-anymore search term, but try aptitude search '?installed ?not(?automatic) ?reverse-Depends(?installed)' |
| 11:37.25 | tremon | ronny: hrm, I meant ?installed ?not(?automatic) ?not(?reverse-Depends(?installed)) |
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| 11:37.53 | nsadmin | well that was ugly :) compiz didn't do stuff good :) kde reverted after a few secs and all is well |
| 11:38.04 | korkman | nsadmin: on my system (wheezy somewhat), compiz is missing a decorator, so doesn't work (anymore). i think compiz is missing metacity. |
| 11:38.23 | korkman | nsadmin: and i see compiz packages are gone |
| 11:38.49 | nsadmin | korkman, running squeeze here, and saw kde decirator pkg for compiz |
| 11:40.30 | ronny | tremon: isnt that stuff autoremove would find anyway? |
| 11:41.15 | diablo9 | is there a prefered way to set up dhcp and tftp with debian squeeze? |
| 11:41.19 | tremon | ronny: no, autoremove uses ?installed ?automatic ?not(?reverse-Depends(?installed)) |
| 11:42.06 | ronny | tremon: ah, i see |
| 11:42.21 | tremon | ronny: and depending on the value of apt::keep-suggests it also includes ?not(?reverse-Recommends(?installed)) and ?not(?reverse-Suggests(?installed)) |
| 11:43.05 | korkman | nsadmin: i'm only projecting a dark future for compiz: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/compiz - i guess it didn't make it into wheezy |
| 11:43.40 | tremon | most of the functionality of compiz has been integrated into kwin and mutter, nowadays it conflicts with the DE's own compositor |
| 11:43.58 | tremon | at least that's how I understood it |
| 11:44.22 | korkman | tremon: yes, it's obsolete for the big DEs. even xfce has some light compositing available. |
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| 11:45.12 | korkman | the only niche where i see compiz is with smaller DEs that used to use metacity |
| 11:45.27 | nsadmin | korkman, yeah, when it switched to compiz the screen had rectangles and messy lines, maybe text, but totally garbled |
| 11:46.04 | korkman | it's really odd for kde to even include it in the settings :-) |
| 11:46.31 | nsadmin | tremon, so kwin can have those 3d effects? |
| 11:46.52 | ronny | is there a way to remove the installed manual mark of a package? |
| 11:46.52 | korkman | nsadmin: yes, kwin has copied many of the compiz effects |
| 11:46.58 | tremon | kwin has some 3d effects, not sure which of "those" you're looking for |
| 11:47.01 | ronny | (or set it again) |
| 11:47.17 | tremon | ronny: apt-mark or aptitude (un)markauto |
| 11:47.23 | nsadmin | well I've never seen comiz, so I was curious... as much so as I am about unity |
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| 11:48.19 | korkman | what's sad is that compiz had decent performance in its last days, and kwin 4.7 performance was way below that or mutter's. didn't try 4.8 yet. |
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| 11:49.26 | korkman | (running guildwars on wine with wobbly windows had good fps in compiz, kwin must run with effects turned off to compete, mutter had same performance as kwin) |
| 11:49.36 | nsadmin | tremon, just idle curiousity, so "those" is "any effect" |
| 11:49.46 | korkman | (mutter hat same performance as compiz, sorry) |
| 11:50.44 | nsadmin | so the kwin effects don't use the hardware accel? |
| 11:51.04 | korkman | nsadmin: oh it does |
| 11:51.17 | korkman | nsadmin: only very poorly :-) |
| 11:52.13 | korkman | nsadmin: for normal activity it's fluid and OK, but 3d gaming kills it. fortunately, there's a keyboard shortcut to switch on-the-fly on and off |
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| 11:53.02 | tremon | nsadmin: I'd like to hope there is a settings panel for it somewhere. Like I said earlier, I don't use it, but searching for "kwin effects" suggests things like shadow, blur, flip, snow, cube, explode should exist |
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| 11:53.30 | korkman | there were lots of performance improvements planned for 4.8 i think so it might work better now with wine games |
| 11:53.59 | ws2k3 | hi how can i see the cpu and ram usage of 1 proces ? |
| 11:54.09 | ws2k3 | can i in top see only one proces ? |
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| 11:54.52 | korkman | ws2k3: you can use htop instead and select the process with spacebar or filter |
| 11:55.16 | tremon | ws2k3: using ps would come to mind |
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| 12:08.05 | mparodi | Hello |
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| 12:08.25 | mparodi | am I missing a codec? look at that http://i.imgur.com/Xvsv9.png |
| 12:08.27 | claw | hello mparodi |
| 12:08.40 | mparodi | this is a screenshot of a video I recorded with a *good* camera |
| 12:09.01 | mparodi | when I play this in this computer it's awful |
| 12:09.05 | claw | what player are you using ? |
| 12:09.14 | mparodi | I tried with many, at the moment VLC |
| 12:09.36 | mparodi | with smplayer is even worse |
| 12:10.26 | mparodi | any idea? |
| 12:11.45 | nsadmin | I guess you could try the mplayer and codecs from dmm |
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| 12:12.31 | mparodi | dmm? |
| 12:12.43 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.49 | claw | http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
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| 12:13.19 | tremon | wasn't that renamed? |
| 12:13.21 | mparodi | yeah, but what codecs? |
| 12:14.50 | ronny | hmm, cleanup finished |
| 12:15.02 | mparodi | <mparodi> yeah, but what codecs? <- nsadmin |
| 12:15.05 | ronny | now im wondering if there is a way to test wayland with debian without breaking the world |
| 12:15.27 | nsadmin | mparodi, I think there's a package of a buncha codecs |
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| 12:15.50 | mparodi | hmn, btw, the extension of the files is "mts" |
| 12:15.52 | mparodi | o.o |
| 12:16.39 | nsadmin | you mean the video files from your camera? |
| 12:16.53 | mparodi | yes |
| 12:17.13 | mparodi | $ file 00000.MTS -> 00000.MTS: data |
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| 12:22.48 | nsadmin | maybe you need to find a way to convert |
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| 12:41.52 | newtolinux | hi |
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| 12:42.11 | newtolinux | is there a way I could make debian boot into a terminal before the windows x manager |
| 12:42.23 | newtolinux | and then when I type a command the desktop environmment loads |
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| 12:42.28 | newtolinux | but only on request? |
| 12:43.03 | ompaul | yes - start with service gdm stop or service kdm stop or whatever to get to a terminal |
| 12:43.41 | newtolinux | errr sorry how would I go about doing that? |
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| 12:46.23 | ompaul | you need to become root - so ctrl alt f3 log in as root and then apply the command above to turn off the X session - however ... update-rc.d -f kdm remove however if you do that you restart with service kdm start or service gdm start but if you don't know if you are using gdm or kdm or xdm or some other dm then I strongly suggest you don't do that |
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| 12:46.47 | LordShiva | newtolinux, boot into single debian :) |
| 12:46.54 | ompaul | then you need to start the session with startx or whichever dm you are using |
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| 12:47.01 | ompaul | LordShiva: that's hardly what's wanted |
| 12:47.40 | ompaul | newtolinux: why do you want to do this - it seems like a lot of work for something where you could just not log in and do CTRL ALT F1-F6 and log in there |
| 12:47.44 | LordShiva | or just click <ctrl><alt><f1> and log into console and then run /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 12:47.58 | newtolinux | would it be quicker that way? |
| 12:47.59 | ompaul | LordShiva: we don't do /etc/ since lenny |
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| 12:48.13 | newtolinux | suppose I just want to use vim |
| 12:48.20 | newtolinux | or read a file |
| 12:48.28 | newtolinux | there's no need for a heavy gui to load |
| 12:48.43 | ompaul | newtolinux: ctrl alt F2 or F1 or F3 and be happy there |
| 12:48.58 | newtolinux | plus it would be cool if I could type a command and then the GUI loads |
| 12:49.03 | LordShiva | Well stoping of gdm it goes /etc/init.d/gdm stop ompaul |
| 12:49.13 | sneex | gvim? |
| 12:49.31 | newtolinux | so if I type start x |
| 12:49.36 | LordShiva | Well stoping of gdm it goes /etc/init.d/gdm stop ompaul |
| 12:49.40 | newtolinux | gnome with start |
| 12:49.41 | LordShiva | just click <ctrl><alt><f1> and log into console |
| 12:49.41 | newtolinux | oh |
| 12:49.46 | newtolinux | nahhhhh |
| 12:49.50 | newtolinux | not the same |
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| 12:50.27 | sneex | xfce and run x all the time >< |
| 12:51.00 | newtolinux | lol |
| 12:51.24 | newtolinux | I mean it would be cool to replace the gui log in box |
| 12:51.26 | newtolinux | with a terminal one |
| 12:52.04 | sneex | xfce has terminals :P |
| 12:52.10 | ompaul | LordShiva: use rc-update.d if you are going to do anything cos squeeze and forward you it is the right way next you'll be saying use BUM |
| 12:53.42 | ompaul | learns his syntax is broken |
| 12:53.47 | newtolinux | How else can I force myself to learn more bash |
| 12:53.54 | newtolinux | it's cool once you know it |
| 12:53.55 | ompaul | newtolinux: open a terminal and do it |
| 12:53.58 | sneex | >< |
| 12:54.00 | newtolinux | lolll |
| 12:54.03 | LordShiva | ompaul, what do you mean ? |
| 12:54.05 | ompaul | newtolinux: just do it |
| 12:54.10 | newtolinux | yeah |
| 12:54.20 | LordShiva | /etc/init.d/ still works |
| 12:54.27 | ompaul | LordShiva: what I said - you won't get away with /etc/init.d/foo in wheezy |
| 12:54.31 | LordShiva | it is backard compatible ? |
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| 12:54.44 | LordShiva | ok |
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| 12:59.02 | TheRealJens | what am I doing wrong? |
| 12:59.07 | TheRealJens | any ideas? |
| 12:59.31 | newtolinux | any idea where ~/.xinitrc would go? |
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| 12:59.59 | stew | in ~/ ? |
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| 13:00.47 | ompaul | oh noes the light goes on and it's not even Sunday |
| 13:01.05 | ompaul | TheRealJens: asking a question on irc with no details |
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| 13:01.47 | newtolinux | right |
| 13:01.48 | newtolinux | brb |
| 13:01.58 | sneex | >< |
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| 13:05.59 | TheRealJens | ompaul: there are only so many words you can write in irc per message ... so I decided to start from the top. but there are not much more information I can give you. That's my crontab entry: "51 * * * * /home/jens/jmeter/startjmeter" ... I chose minute 51 for testing purposes (e.g. 14:51). the script itself starts with "#!/bin/sh". if I run the script from commandline everything works just fine. so I don't think there is anything wrong |
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| 13:07.08 | stew | TheRealJens: does the script depend on any environment variables? |
| 13:07.16 | TheRealJens | stew: no |
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| 13:07.24 | newtolinux | wow |
| 13:07.26 | newtolinux | linux is awesome |
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| 13:07.32 | newtolinux | is there anything it cannot do? |
| 13:07.35 | stew | TheRealJens: how did you add the crontab entry? |
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| 13:09.18 | TheRealJens | stew: crontab -e |
| 13:09.22 | TheRealJens | also: http://pastebin.com/h4U9X2QV |
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| 13:09.40 | TheRealJens | that's the script I try to run |
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| 13:12.07 | stew | TheRealJens: is cron running? |
| 13:12.36 | TheRealJens | stew: ps -ef | grep "cron" |
| 13:12.37 | TheRealJens | root 18608 1 0 14:38 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron |
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| 13:13.10 | TheRealJens | "/etc/init.d/cron status" |
| 13:13.11 | TheRealJens | Checking periodic command scheduler...done (running). |
| 13:13.45 | stew | TheRealJens: is it +x? |
| 13:14.10 | TheRealJens | -rwxrwxr-x |
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| 13:14.54 | TheRealJens | stew: -rwxrwxr-x |
| 13:15.45 | stew | TheRealJens: I would try adding set -x |
| 13:15.56 | themill | TheRealJens: what file is that crontab entry in? |
| 13:16.30 | TheRealJens | themill: I ran the command as the user I am right now. so I just typed "crontab -e" |
| 13:16.42 | TheRealJens | it's not root but another user called "jens" |
| 13:17.04 | themill | that's fine, I was just checking you weren't using a misnamed file in /etc/cron* |
| 13:17.17 | TheRealJens | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:17.31 | TheRealJens | :S |
| 13:17.31 | stew | TheRealJens: edit the file, add "set -x" as the second line |
| 13:17.40 | TheRealJens | stew: aaah |
| 13:17.46 | TheRealJens | ok. one moment please |
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| 13:17.55 | stew | you could also run it as "bash -x /home/jens..." |
| 13:18.00 | stew | to get the same effect |
| 13:18.31 | stew | or run it as bash -x /home/jens.... > mylogfile 2>&1" |
| 13:18.57 | TheRealJens | but I did not use bash shebang ... "#!/bin/sh" ... should I also switch to bash? |
| 13:19.19 | TheRealJens | bash is the default shell for the user |
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| 13:19.36 | stew | no, your script should run fine in dash |
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| 13:20.02 | TheRealJens | stew: set -x did not work :/ |
| 13:20.17 | stew | be more specific? |
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| 13:20.57 | stew | * * * * * /bin/bash -x /home/jens/jmeter/startjmeter > /tmp/startjmeter.log 2>&1 |
| 13:20.59 | stew | try that |
| 13:21.06 | TheRealJens | ok |
| 13:21.09 | stew | then see if /tmp/startjmeter.log is created |
| 13:21.10 | TheRealJens | one moment please |
| 13:21.20 | sneex | TheRealJens: you runnig selinux? |
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| 13:21.52 | TheRealJens | sneex: not that I know of. default debian install |
| 13:21.58 | sneex | k |
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| 13:22.33 | TheRealJens | stew: startmeter.log was created |
| 13:22.41 | TheRealJens | i post it in a sec |
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| 13:23.32 | TheRealJens | stew: looks like your bash -x worked! |
| 13:23.45 | stew | TheRealJens: -x just means "show me what you are doing" |
| 13:24.07 | stew | TheRealJens: if it works with -x it will work without it |
| 13:24.14 | TheRealJens | hmmm |
| 13:24.24 | TheRealJens | I also changed the shebang to #!/bin/bash |
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| 13:24.31 | TheRealJens | maybe that did the trick? |
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| 13:24.47 | stew | TheRealJens: what if you take off "bash -x" from the crontab entry? |
| 13:25.06 | stew | is /home mounted noexec? |
| 13:25.14 | TheRealJens | stew: wait a sec. I'll try that |
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| 13:25.16 | korkman | is there work underway to increase the maximum minor number for /devs? i find myself approaching the limit of 255 in various storage contexts, like drbd volumes, loop files, device mappers |
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| 13:25.54 | ompaul | korkman: what kernel are you running? |
| 13:26.12 | derpella | Hello. I have a weirdest issue with my Trust Bamboo tablet: it works awesome in about lower 2/3part of screen and lags in upper part... changing resolution changed nothing o_O |
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| 13:26.26 | ompaul | korkman: and what version of debian actually - new ones don't suffer |
| 13:26.30 | korkman | ompaul: more of a generic question - kernel is on most of my systems |
| 13:26.40 | korkman | ompaul: 3.2 |
| 13:26.48 | ompaul | korkman: it doesn't have that issue |
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| 13:27.03 | TheRealJens | stew: how can I find out how /home is mounted? I looked in /etc/fstab but there was no /home mount point in it |
| 13:27.03 | korkman | ompaul: so it's already done? |
| 13:27.51 | TheRealJens | stew: by the way. using bash instead of sh seems to do the trick. |
| 13:28.10 | ompaul | korkman: as far as I know it's not been an issue for some time |
| 13:28.11 | TheRealJens | the script is now running via cron |
| 13:28.26 | korkman | ompaul: so i can set max loop devices to 1000 or so? |
| 13:28.38 | ompaul | korkman: you can find some reference docs online if you can't prod me in 100minutes or so and I'll see what I can find |
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| 13:30.19 | ompaul | korkman: see 3.2.3 on this page http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/chp-3-sect-2 |
| 13:30.44 | ompaul | korkman: now I'm going about that business I need to go about |
| 13:31.37 | korkman | ompaul: thanks. |
| 13:33.03 | stew | TheRealJens: you can try "sh -x ..." and see why perhaps |
| 13:33.26 | TheRealJens | stew: good idea |
| 13:33.45 | TheRealJens | stew: I am going to dig a little bit further. but so far! thank you for helping me! |
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| 13:37.43 | miha | :p |
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| 13:40.41 | themill | miha: upgrade to squeeze... |
| 13:41.31 | themill | dpkg: tell miha about lenny->squeeze |
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| 13:54.52 | sneex | don't install php 5.3 - build it and apache together :P |
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| 14:01.43 | proby | hi , where could i find the log of all the text printed on boot ?? |
| 14:02.09 | sneex | dmesg |
| 14:02.25 | sneex | in /var/log |
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| 14:03.00 | proby | sneex where exeactly? |
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| 14:05.11 | sneex | there is a log of dmesg and a command |
| 14:05.19 | TheRealJens | stew: I found out what the real problem was.... the clock on the machine I was testing on was out of sync ... it was 5 minutes to fast. I resynced with ntpdate (also made a cron for that so it will sync every day from now on) ... |
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| 14:05.53 | engla | proby: there is /var/log/dmesg but it's not all messages at boot, just the kernel messages |
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| 14:06.24 | jelly-home | TheRealJens: you might want to install ntp (= service) instead and let it do its timekeeping job |
| 14:07.14 | TheRealJens | jelly-home: aptitude install ntp ?!? and remove ntpdate? will it ntp run autoamtically or do I have to install a job as well? |
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| 14:07.44 | sneex | ntpd will magically |
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| 14:08.01 | jelly-home | TheRealJens: yes; not needed, but you can't use ntpdate while the ntp service is running; yes (it's a daemon) |
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| 14:08.12 | dvs | TheRealJens: ntp is always running |
| 14:08.28 | jelly-home | TheRealJens: respectively |
| 14:08.29 | jelly-home | <g> |
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| 14:09.40 | TheRealJens | jelly-home and dvs: thank you. installed ntp |
| 14:10.02 | TheRealJens | ntpd is running.... so from now on I hopefully won't have to deal with nasty "time" issues |
| 14:10.56 | sneex | find . -type f -iname "Fedora*iso" -exec rm -f {} ; |
| 14:12.45 | themill | hands sneex -delete |
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| 14:13.28 | sneex | yup |
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| 14:14.35 | sneex | i hate cleaning old HDs :P |
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| 14:19.36 | jelly-home | TheRealJens: well. if your system clock drifts or skips away too fast, ntpd is sometimes unable to keep up and you really have to use something like ntpdate in a cron job |
| 14:20.07 | TheRealJens | jelly-home: thanks for the hint. I'll keep running ntpdate daily too |
| 14:20.24 | jelly-home | TheRealJens: ntpdate cannot work while ntpd is running |
| 14:20.28 | TheRealJens | ok |
| 14:20.51 | jelly-home | you can leave the job in place, it will just complain about "socket in use" and exit |
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| 14:44.20 | mmm4m5m | Hi all. Trying to install debian testing (laptop without CD ROM). I have grub2 USB stick with netinst iso inside (iso file, not extracted). Installer starts just fine and fail to "detect and mount CD-ROM"... Installer give me shell access. I did mount USB as /mnt/usb and now I am _trying_ to mount ISO file to /cdrom dir (I read this will help and installer will continue)... The problem is 1) "mount /mnt/usb/netinst.iso /cdrom -o loop |
| 14:45.04 | mmm4m5m | Any advice or hints? (except use dd and write iso to USB stick and delete all USB content) |
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| 14:48.50 | mmm4m5m | ... seems loop module is not loaded and not present |
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| 14:50.27 | korkman | mmm4m5m: you can work around that issue by using grub2 "memdisk" method |
| 14:51.14 | korkman | mmm4m5m: but basically, isos are not made to be run indirectly |
| 14:52.28 | korkman | mmm4m5m: or was is "loop" in grub2? anyways, grub would have to preload the iso into ram, but then it will fail, too, probably |
| 14:54.32 | mmm4m5m | korkman: I understand the diff with "indirect run ISO" just now... I have very basic idea how things "works"... Ok, I will check what other install options I have and will find another way. Thanks! :) |
| 14:55.27 | korkman | mmm4m5m: yeah running iso from filesystem really isn't worth the effort. |
| 14:55.55 | korkman | mmm4m5m: it confuses the iso bootloader, then the installer, etc. |
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| 15:01.18 | JaSeR | hello |
| 15:01.30 | JaSeR | does anybody have a minute for a BIND DNS question? |
| 15:01.42 | JaSeR | I think that I have configurated everything ok because I don't get any error |
| 15:01.42 | JaSeR | if I use de bind-dns-server like my DNS server (client-side) I can resolve my domain |
| 15:01.42 | JaSeR | so, the point is: if I can do dig @dns-host http://mydomain.net/ and get answer |
| 15:01.49 | JaSeR | do I only have to wait for DNS propagation? |
| 15:01.49 | JaSeR | I already know that it could late upto 48 hours, but I want to be sure of there is not an error of configuration :) |
| 15:02.07 | ompaul | dig at other servers |
| 15:02.17 | ompaul | ones you know didn't touch yours |
| 15:02.31 | JaSeR | google DNS for example |
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| 15:02.40 | JaSeR | don't know yet my domain |
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| 15:02.57 | jelly-home | JaSeR: get rid of those "http://" and tail "/" bits. |
| 15:03.36 | JaSeR | $ dig @172.18.0.1 mydomain.net |
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| 15:03.40 | JaSeR | I get the correct answer |
| 15:03.43 | jelly-home | "dig @dns-host mydomain.net" <- better than -> "dig @dns-host http://mydomain.net/" |
| 15:03.59 | JaSeR | sure, my iRC client did trick for me hehehe |
| 15:04.06 | JaSeR | i typed domain.net without http :) |
| 15:04.09 | jelly-home | thought so |
| 15:04.19 | tremon | JaSeR: so, did you register your dns server as authoritative for mydomain at the .net registrar? |
| 15:04.46 | JaSeR | i pointed my GoDaddy nameservers to my DNS-server |
| 15:05.23 | tremon | JaSeR: does your dns server have a publically-reachable address? 172.18 is not reachable from the internet? |
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| 15:05.30 | JaSeR | is my vpn :) |
| 15:05.31 | JaSeR | yes it have |
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| 15:06.14 | JaSeR | i can do from here dig @5.39.69.xx domain.net |
| 15:06.17 | jelly-home | JaSeR: you'd make debugging easier if you stated the actual domain name. We don't care if it's horse porn. |
| 15:06.28 | JaSeR | hahahahaha |
| 15:06.32 | JaSeR | ipalaus.net |
| 15:06.48 | dvs | not equine.xxx ? ;-) |
| 15:06.58 | JaSeR | not this one :P |
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| 15:08.59 | jelly-home | well "dig +nssearch ipalaus.net." shows no responses yet, it typically takes an hour or less for me with Namecheap. No idea how slow GoDaddy is. |
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| 15:09.38 | JaSeR | for me neither |
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| 15:10.11 | JaSeR | i don't care to wait hehehe |
| 15:10.13 | jelly-home | ipalaus.net.172800INNS178-33-167-146.ovh.net. |
| 15:10.13 | jelly-home | ipalaus.net.172800INNS178-33-167-147.ovh.net. |
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| 15:10.18 | jelly-home | does that seem correct? |
| 15:10.19 | JaSeR | but I wanted to be sure that i don't have anything wrong |
| 15:10.23 | JaSeR | nop |
| 15:10.26 | JaSeR | that was the old ones |
| 15:10.45 | jelly-home | well, that's what dig +trace ipalaus.net. stops at |
| 15:10.47 | yann2 | hi :) I'm thinking of a debian / bsd dual boot for my router, and was wondering - what would you consider more stable, the UFS driver for linux, or the ext2 driver for bsd? |
| 15:11.06 | JaSeR | jelly-home I migrated it to 5.39.59.15 |
| 15:11.08 | JaSeR | so |
| 15:11.11 | JaSeR | dig @5.39.59.15 ipalaus.net |
| 15:11.13 | JaSeR | is working |
| 15:11.21 | jelly-home | http://paste.debian.net/177082/ |
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| 15:11.41 | tremon | the SOA for .net suggests a minimal TTL of 1800 seconds if I'm reading it right |
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| 15:13.14 | proby | hi guys on boot i get this message : Setting kernel variables ...error: "net.ipv6.icmp_echo_ignore_all" is an unknown key |
| 15:13.20 | proby | what that means?? |
| 15:13.48 | jelly-home | JaSeR: for i in a b c d e f g h i j k l m; do dig @$i.gtld-servers.net. ipalaus.net. SOA; done -- none of the ".net" domain servers have the update yet |
| 15:13.52 | tremon | no, make that 30 minutes refresh but minimal ttl of 1 day |
| 15:14.29 | jelly-home | JaSeR: until they do, DNS (recursion) won't work |
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| 15:15.06 | JaSeR | so I just have to wait? |
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| 15:15.13 | jelly-home | JaSeR: notice that ipalaus.es is also broken because its NS records are at your .net domain which doesn't work yet |
| 15:15.22 | tremon | JaSeR: next time, do not retire the old servers before the dns changes have propagated |
| 15:15.29 | JaSeR | ok |
| 15:15.41 | jelly-home | JaSeR: assuming you've clicked all the bits at your registrar correctly, yes |
| 15:15.52 | JaSeR | ok |
| 15:15.53 | JaSeR | thanks you :) |
| 15:16.45 | excalibr | Does anyone know how to reset or clear out persistent storage on linux live usb? |
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| 15:19.43 | mparodi | suppose you need to convert a mts file to a mp4 (inside you can use whatever you like if it's common enough and if the quality is not that bad) |
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| 15:20.00 | mparodi | what ffmpeg's parameters would you use? |
| 15:20.10 | mparodi | there're hundreds, I really don't know u.u |
| 15:20.31 | boudiccas | mparodi: i'd use handbrake |
| 15:20.40 | tremon | mparodi: what's mts? mpeg transport stream? |
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| 15:20.58 | mparodi | AVCHD ? |
| 15:21.03 | mparodi | tremon, ^ |
| 15:22.28 | tremon | avchd is a codec, mp4 is the container it usually comes in. So assuming mts is also a container, I'd use vcodec:copy |
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| 15:23.06 | mparodi | I need to apply a filter so I can't copy it |
| 15:23.30 | mparodi | ffmpeg -i inputfile.mts -vcodec libx264 -vf yadif -acodec libmp3lame outputfile.mp4 |
| 15:23.32 | mparodi | I tried ^ |
| 15:23.37 | mparodi | but it crashes |
| 15:23.41 | faust_ | my notify-send stopped working a while back (updated testing). Might have been when i switched from xfce to openbox-session. Fix? ( i get no errors) |
| 15:23.45 | mparodi | [buffer @ 0x13d6760] Changing frame properties on the fly is not supported. <- error |
| 15:24.01 | mparodi | tremon |
| 15:24.02 | tremon | mparodi: try #avconv |
| 15:24.06 | mparodi | ok, thanks |
| 15:24.19 | mparodi | none is there u.u |
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| 15:24.43 | tremon | hmm... maybe I misremembered the channel name |
| 15:25.06 | tremon | goes hunting through his history |
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| 15:25.18 | tremon | mparodi: try #libav |
| 15:25.24 | Supaplex | tremon: wabbit season! |
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| 15:28.38 | tremon | faust_: does openbox even support libnotify? |
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| 15:35.34 | faust_ | tremon: not sure |
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| 15:36.28 | faust_ | tremon: how can one check? |
| 15:36.41 | tremon | https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24052 seems to suggest you must start notification-daemon manually |
| 15:37.06 | Freso | nsadmin: Thanks for the help earlier. Turned out I coiuldn't use it. Ah well. :) |
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| 15:41.13 | faust_ | tremon thanks! |
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| 15:45.43 | aguitel | when i try to connect in emesene it say:you have a broken profile .........do you want to fix your profile now ,whay this ? |
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| 15:52.43 | grepper | would using a SSD for / speed up dpkg apt-get much ? I find it slow at times installing, reading the database etc |
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| 15:55.25 | NiLon | grepper well in theory it should ~double the speed |
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| 15:55.48 | mparodi | <boudiccas> mparodi: i'd use handbrake <- thank you! :D |
| 15:55.53 | mparodi | (it worked) |
| 15:55.54 | Supaplex | grepper: axi-cache (from apt-xapian-index) works well. |
| 15:55.58 | grepper | NiLon: hm, might be worth it, they have finaly come down in price quite a bit |
| 15:56.10 | tremon | grepper: why would dpkg being slow be an issue? |
| 15:56.12 | boudiccas | mparodi: you're welcome |
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| 15:57.37 | grepper | tremon: I don't might waiting an extra 15 seconds, really. Just looking for an excuse to get an SSD :) |
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| 15:58.29 | grepper | but being on sid, you can wait quite a while sometimes for updates to install. And a recent dist-upgrade was took a long time |
| 15:58.33 | tremon | in that case, I can think of better excuses than dpkg's speed. Faster boot, faster application startup, less power usage, less noise... |
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| 15:59.23 | tremon | ime, the biggest factor in apt-get/aptitude slowness is the number of sources in sources.list |
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| 16:01.05 | grepper | yeah, I only have 2 deb lines with accompanying deb-src lines |
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| 16:03.55 | grepper | tremon: okay, you've convinced me. Doubtful I was going to be able to resist $80 CDN for an OSZ vertex 3 anyway. |
| 16:04.09 | grepper | er, 128 gb |
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| 16:13.02 | f4cl3y | ls |
| 16:15.22 | lcc | just installed exuberant ctags. how do I use it instead of gnu ctags? |
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| 16:17.59 | lcc | oh, ctags-exuberant |
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| 16:27.29 | GTRsdk | Hi. I'm using a Radeon 9600, and I can't see graphics onscreen properly. What should I do? |
| 16:28.09 | calrogman | Install the firmware for it. |
| 16:28.11 | ikonia | try the many different variations of ati modules, |
| 16:28.31 | ikonia | drop back to vesa to confirm you have a working setup, then move forward |
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| 16:30.26 | GTRsdk | How do I do that? |
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| 16:30.57 | ikonia | do which ? |
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| 16:31.16 | GTRsdk | install the firmware |
| 16:31.30 | dvs | firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 16:31.35 | ikonia | I've never had to install firmware for ati cards |
| 16:31.43 | ikonia | normally the propritary ati modules is enough |
| 16:31.44 | nsadmin | wow... suddenly without me doing anything, hibernate and sleep works |
| 16:31.59 | ikonia | bottom line is though, the ati cards are just a tedious fight |
| 16:32.21 | nsadmin | they're good for 2d |
| 16:32.30 | dvs | ikonia: the radeon module and firmware works fine for me. |
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| 16:33.14 | ikonia | dvs: some people will have excellent results, no question |
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| 16:35.19 | raidghost | Is there a chance of getting the dhcp release info from syslog out to a ip-list.php ? |
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| 16:36.03 | raidghost | verd handy when a device is connecting to the debian gw and i would like to know what ip the device was getting. |
| 16:37.49 | ograf | GTRsdk, http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary/ |
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| 16:38.33 | GTRsdk | Thanks for the help. firmware-linux-nonfree works magic :D |
| 16:38.46 | dvs | told ya |
| 16:39.03 | dvs | oops wrong person |
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| 16:43.30 | nsadmin | while the hib and sleep are working, they're behaving a little weird, for example when I sleep it, it does the same as when I close the lid in windows, seems like it's a hardware hibernate function that comes with the laptop... when I say hibernate, it does something then turns power completely off; my guess is it's a generic hibernate that's in the linux kernel and elsewhere |
| 16:43.41 | nsadmin | can anyone comment? |
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| 16:47.02 | dvs | nsadmin: My sleep function works but my hibernate doesn't. Hibernate turns off the computer and when it comes back on, the system boots normally (i.e. not from the point I turned on hibernate from) |
| 16:47.22 | jelly-home | nsadmin: how old is that laptop? early ACPI or pre-ACPI laptops had BIOS hibernation (to a file on a FAT partition) |
| 16:48.09 | jelly-home | nsadmin: how fast does the thing resume from sleep? |
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| 16:49.47 | jelly-home | speed or resuming less than 5-10 seconds, barring SSDs, would mean the machine didn't really hibernate, but just went to sleep as told to |
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| 16:52.47 | raidghost | Whatever. Flood is love |
| 16:54.13 | nsadmin | dvs, that describes my situation too (one sec, reading jelly) |
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| 16:54.33 | mariok | Hello guys |
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| 16:54.57 | mariok | today I wanted to extend a filesystem as I did it already severy times. |
| 16:55.02 | nsadmin | how fast does it return from sleep, pretty quickly... how old, I'd say 2 years |
| 16:55.10 | mariok | 1) e2fsck -f /dev/sdc1 |
| 16:55.25 | mariok | the filesystemcheck does NOT report any error and checks the filesystem |
| 16:55.26 | jelly-home | nsadmin: that's probably actual sleep then, working as intended |
| 16:55.31 | mariok | 2) fdisk /dev/sdc |
| 16:55.42 | mariok | delete the partition and created it in the new size |
| 16:55.50 | mariok | 3) resize2fs /dev/sdc1 |
| 16:55.53 | nsadmin | sounds it. I hadn't seen it work until yesterday |
| 16:55.56 | mariok | does not recognize the file system. |
| 16:56.09 | nsadmin | I made sure I had a big enough swap, and I already did |
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| 16:56.43 | mariok | Is there a way to force e2fsck "to know" that /dev/sdc1 contains a ext3 filesystem? |
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| 16:56.55 | mariok | Is there a way to force resize2fs "to know" that /dev/sdc1 contains a ext3 filesystem? |
| 16:57.08 | jelly-home | mariok: at 2) step, make absolutely sure the new partition begins at the exact same place as the old one. New fdisk defaults to 1MiB (2048 sectors) alignment where previously it used to obey CHS geometry for partition alignment |
| 16:57.53 | mariok | jelly-home: that's it I thing |
| 16:58.00 | jelly-home | mariok: thus your new partition may accidentally start at sector 2048 while the correct start sector should be 63 |
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| 16:58.18 | dvs | uses a live distro to resize partitions. |
| 16:58.29 | mariok | jelly-home: the old partition did start on sector 32 |
| 16:58.33 | mariok | the new start on 2048 |
| 16:58.46 | mariok | so I need to change that but how? |
| 16:59.07 | nsadmin | mariok, you mean even if it does not? |
| 16:59.47 | nsadmin | resizes lvs :) |
| 17:00.04 | mariok | original: |
| 17:00.04 | mariok | /dev/sdc1 32 33554431 16777200 83 Linux |
| 17:00.04 | mariok | new: |
| 17:00.04 | mariok | /dev/sdc1 2048 41943039 20970496 83 Linux |
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| 17:06.14 | jelly-home | le sigh |
| 17:06.27 | dvs | huh? Are you in France? |
| 17:06.32 | nsadmin | taking him awhile to get back |
| 17:06.55 | jelly-home | dvs: no, but I sure fooled you |
| 17:07.05 | dvs | nsadmin: He's probably cursing us for kicking him out. ;-P |
| 17:07.11 | dvs | jelly-home: heh |
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| 17:09.14 | jelly-home | well I guess he'd figure out fdisk -c=dos -H 255 -S 32 /dev/sdc or sfdisk or whatever |
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| 17:10.38 | nsadmin | does he want a new partition that he has to format? |
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| 17:17.10 | mariok | dos compatibility mode did help. thanks |
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| 17:32.40 | simrun | Is this an OK time to upgrade wheezy -> sid? |
| 17:32.48 | magyar | hi, I am not able to playback AVC codec on debian squeeze. Am I missing a decoder? |
| 17:32.56 | dvs | !iyhtays simrun |
| 17:32.57 | dpkg | simrun: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 17:33.02 | simrun | hehe |
| 17:33.05 | simrun | I think it is |
| 17:33.12 | simrun | Checked the transitions page etc |
| 17:33.15 | simrun | Just wanted to make sure |
| 17:34.25 | dvs | simrun: If you want to help debug Debian and run into its potentially fatal problems, go ahead. |
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| 17:34.51 | korkman | come on, sid isn't *that* dangerous |
| 17:35.23 | simrun | I'm planning on dual booting it and seeing if I can use it as a main desktop |
| 17:35.25 | dvs | korkman: In the past, sid had glibc fail and apt fail |
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| 17:35.46 | dvs | try recovering from that. |
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| 17:35.58 | oiglimpse | what goes on in this chat? can I get troubleshooting advice for a wireless issue? |
| 17:36.00 | woshty | magyar: AVC? |
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| 17:36.26 | magyar | woshty: Advanced Video Codec |
| 17:36.28 | nvz | oiglimpse: not with a question like that. try explaining your issue, what hardware you have, what version of debian and the kernel you are using.. etc |
| 17:36.46 | jello | !tell oiglimpse about ask |
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| 17:37.02 | magyar | i've installed "sudo apt-get install x264" but still get only sound |
| 17:37.16 | simrun | btw guys, is there a quick command to 'lock' the screen in console mode? |
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| 17:37.30 | nvz | simrun: if you're using screen you'd do C-a x |
| 17:37.40 | simrun | nvz, how would I unlock it after? |
| 17:37.46 | nvz | simrun: type in the password |
| 17:37.49 | woshty | magyar: what are you using for playback? |
| 17:37.52 | simrun | nvz, my user password? |
| 17:38.00 | magyar | woshty: vlc |
| 17:38.01 | nvz | simrun: the user running the screen session, yes |
| 17:38.06 | simrun | nvz, awesome thanks |
| 17:38.49 | nvz | simrun: if you're not a screen user, you may want to look into tmux its supposedly newer and better, but I'm a stubborn old screen user so.. might be better to learn tmux if you're not already partial |
| 17:39.07 | jelly-home | magyar: which debian release? Can you play it with mplayer? |
| 17:39.29 | jelly-home | oh squeeze, alright |
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| 17:39.34 | nvz | simrun: both allow terminal multiplexing, the ability to detach and reattach sessions, lock sessions, etc.. |
| 17:39.35 | jelly-home | ,v mplayer |
| 17:39.36 | judd | Package: mplayer on i386 -- lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3.2; lenny-security: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3.2; lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny2; squeeze: 2:1.0~rc3++final.dfsg1-1; squeeze-multimedia: 2:1.0~rc3++svn20100804-0.2squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540-1~bpo60+1; sid: 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540-1+b2; wheezy: 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540-1+b2; wheezy-multimedia: |
| 17:39.37 | judd | 3:1.0~rc4+svn20120324-0.0; sid-multimedia: 3:1.0~rc4+svn20120430-dmo1 |
| 17:40.01 | jelly-home | sooo many versions :-| |
| 17:40.03 | woshty | magyar: you could try using mplayer or xine or ffmpeg do recode, other than that i have no clue without looking at the file itself |
| 17:40.19 | magyar | thanks woshty |
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| 17:41.39 | oiglimpse | i have a intel 1030 iwlagn shows in lsmod lspci -v doesn't show any kernel driver in use. the card was working before i ran large update yesterday |
| 17:42.37 | jelly-home | oiglimpse: which debian release are you using? Can you show the complete "lspci -nn" line for the card? |
| 17:43.14 | oiglimpse | testing, that output is pretty big, will it let me paste here? |
| 17:44.00 | hanfi | Hi, since about a week, my gnome-shell does not have fonts anymore (it could be related to removal of defoma...but im not sure). It shows text in the top-menu-thingy and the panels too. But applications do not have any text. For example the terminal, no title, nothing. The cursor is there, and i can type, but its all blank. the system-settings window has buttons and a lot empty areas. I tried reinstall almost all font-related things. Any ideas |
| 17:44.01 | oiglimpse | 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 [8086:008a] (rev 34) |
| 17:44.35 | jelly-home | ,pciid 8086:008a --release sid |
| 17:44.36 | judd | [8086:008a] is 'Centrino Wireless-N 1030' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:008a http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 17:44.49 | tharkun | gentlemen the judd bot can give you the dependencies a certain package has, how do i tell it to give me the dependencies on wheezy instead of squeeze? |
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| 17:45.26 | jelly-home | tharkun: ask it in #debian-next on oftc; also, --release foo works for some commands |
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| 17:46.08 | tharkun | jelly-home: thanks |
| 17:46.26 | jelly-home | oiglimpse: is firmware-iwlwifi installed? /msg dpkg iwlwifi |
| 17:47.03 | oiglimpse | root@debian:/etc/rc0.d# /msg dpkg iwlwifi bash: /msg: No such file or directory |
| 17:48.24 | dvs | oiglimpse: type that here |
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| 17:49.10 | themill | jelly-home, tharkun: --release and --arch work for all commands where they make sense with the exception of pciid, xorg and kernels. |
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| 17:49.44 | oiglimpse | type "/msg dpkg iwlwifi" here? |
| 17:49.50 | themill | jelly-home, tharkun: you can "/msg judd help depends" too, where it will give you usage information including a command synopsis |
| 17:49.58 | jello | oiglimpse: yes, type it into your IRC client |
| 17:50.06 | oiglimpse | :) |
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| 17:51.52 | oiglimpse | yes i have those files installed and it was working yesterday before my update |
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| 17:52.50 | oiglimpse | iwconfig shows no wireless |
| 17:53.25 | jello | oiglimpse: are the kernel modules loaded? (you can check with lsmod) |
| 17:54.19 | oiglimpse | shows: iwlagn 166455 0 iwl3945 51920 0 iwl_legacy 48480 1 iwl3945 |
| 17:55.05 | simrun | nvz, ok, i'm back and screen isn't accepting my password :P |
| 17:55.47 | dvs | But that isn't iwlwifi |
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| 17:56.07 | tharkun | themill: thanks for the extra information. I can deduct a few things from that. :-) |
| 17:57.14 | tharkun | themill: Also I'm setting up an oversimplified factoid for booting from debian from a usb. with a few caveats would you Check it for proper language once it is completed? |
| 17:57.18 | themill | tharkun: fundamentally, what would be handy is for the half-written judd user docs to turn into fully-written judd user docs and land on a website somewhere... |
| 17:57.32 | simrun | nvz, no worries anyway. I might have a lookat tmux |
| 17:57.33 | themill | tharkun: to fix up the one you created the other day? sure. |
| 17:57.47 | tharkun | feels observed |
| 17:58.05 | oiglimpse | from the debian wiki: The iwlwifi module (iwlagn prior to Linux 3.2) iwlagn is part of iwlwifi i think? iwlwifi installation step three is # modprobe -r iwlagn ; modprobe iwlagn |
| 17:58.17 | themill | sends the black helicopters for another lap around tharkun |
| 17:58.51 | nvz | simrun: are you sure its plugged in, turned on, and you have some clue what you're doing? ;) |
| 17:59.13 | nvz | simrun: perhaps you ran it as root or something, idk.. |
| 17:59.24 | nvz | it says when its locked which user locked it though |
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| 18:02.27 | oiglimpse | i do find this error though: root@debian:/etc/modprobe.d# modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi FATAL: Module iwlwifi not found. |
| 18:03.09 | oiglimpse | is it missing files? latest firmware-iwlwifi package is installed |
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| 18:03.21 | zecrazytux | oiglimpse: depmod -a ? |
| 18:03.36 | zecrazytux | maybe the module is there but not in the dependency list |
| 18:03.42 | dvs | oiglimpse: No, you're right. iwlwifi comes with a newer kernel. |
| 18:04.01 | oiglimpse | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:05.01 | nsadmin | oiglimpse, you could run a recent and supported kernel :) |
| 18:05.07 | calrogman | That's a warning, not an error. Continue. |
| 18:05.17 | jelly-home | oiglimpse: that kernel is not present in any debian release, install linux-image-amd64 instead |
| 18:05.27 | calrogman | Also yeah, try rebooting every now and then. |
| 18:05.55 | nsadmin | well let's see what has him running that kernel |
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| 18:06.19 | oiglimpse | i don't know! lol |
| 18:06.24 | calrogman | It's probably a large uptime or something else largely irrelevant on a personal system. |
| 18:06.43 | oiglimpse | yes i don't reboot often |
| 18:06.53 | calrogman | Yeah, reboot now. |
| 18:07.17 | calrogman | Unstable gets kernel updates fairly frequently. It's not a good idea to leave an unstable system up for huge periods of time. |
| 18:07.21 | nsadmin | calrogman, curious, what kernel did you have him install? |
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| 18:07.44 | pithagorians | hi. i have a result of fsck - http://pastebin.com/4tk2tYaK. question - will this result destroy data on my disks? |
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| 18:08.07 | calrogman | I assume he has linux-image-amd64 or some other meta-package installed, so he'll have 3.2.0, by my reckoning. |
| 18:08.32 | nsadmin | at least that's the squeeze backport version |
| 18:08.43 | calrogman | It's also the latest in Unstable. |
| 18:08.53 | oiglimpse | how do you show the current kernel? |
| 18:09.03 | jello | oiglimpse: uname -srnm |
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| 18:09.05 | calrogman | uname -r |
| 18:09.09 | jello | oiglimpse: uname -srvm |
| 18:09.17 | oiglimpse | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.19 | dvs | calrogman: Actually, it could be linux-image-2.6-amd which is no longer used. |
| 18:09.34 | nsadmin | oiglimpse, so you're running that same kernel |
| 18:09.38 | dvs | oiglimpse: That's an old kernel |
| 18:09.46 | oiglimpse | Linux 3.0.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Aug 27 16:21:11 UTC 2011 x86_64 |
| 18:09.59 | calrogman | It could be, but that depends on linux-image-amd64 these days anyway, dvs. |
| 18:10.42 | dvs | almost a year old |
| 18:10.43 | dvs | ,depends linux-image-amd64 |
| 18:10.43 | judd | Package linux-image-amd64 in squeeze/i386 -- depends: linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64. |
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| 18:11.04 | oiglimpse | so, should i just try to update the kernel? can i do that without a reformat? |
| 18:11.07 | dvs | well, you ain't running squeeze |
| 18:11.09 | calrogman | 3.0.0.2-686-pae was the kernel I was running when I got my second highest uptime. Wireless broke on that too, iwl3945. Rebooting fixed it. |
| 18:11.18 | calrogman | Yeah you just need to reboot oiglimpse :/ |
| 18:11.34 | oiglimpse | i'll try it |
| 18:11.47 | nsadmin | oiglimpse, kernels are really easy to install, it's just a package |
| 18:12.06 | nsadmin | then you reboot |
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| 18:12.45 | nsadmin | if you ever needed to, you can also build your own kernel into a very similar package that you can install and remove at will |
| 18:13.07 | nsadmin | very neat, works great, cleans up after itself |
| 18:13.12 | dvs | except don't remove the one you're currently running! |
| 18:13.18 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 18:13.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.4-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.20-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.20-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 18:13.29 | calrogman | If your system takes a decade to POST you can also use kexec, in the kexec-tools package, to do a reboot into a new kernel without having the system completely halt. |
| 18:13.33 | engla | dvs: what happens? |
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| 18:13.54 | dvs | engla: system crash, go boom |
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| 18:14.04 | engla | why would it do that |
| 18:14.12 | nsadmin | if your system takes a decade to post, it's little wonder you don't like to reboot :) |
| 18:14.17 | Supaplex | engla: because strongbad logged in? |
| 18:14.27 | calrogman | Really? Surely with the kernel in memory the system would continue to function, maybe suffering reduced stability over time. |
| 18:14.32 | oiglimpse | no, this thing runs OK |
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| 18:15.06 | toni_ | hi! |
| 18:15.07 | oiglimpse | just a laptop i leave on standby when i close the lid |
| 18:15.14 | engla | dvs: are you just making this up? |
| 18:15.31 | calrogman | I'd put a dollar on it, engla. |
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| 18:16.05 | zecrazytux | I kown this might not be the best chan to talk about this, but if someone could give me a clue on the problem I explained on this thread http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-users/201206.mbox/%3C20120627131746.GC6862@libertine.intra%3E , I would be very thankful :) (it is an apache problem with squeeze's apache2) |
| 18:16.29 | ksm | 1.9G/var/cache |
| 18:16.34 | ksm | is this normal |
| 18:16.42 | dvs | engla: What? Removing the package for the currently running kernel? I'm not making that up. dpkg will display a huge warning saying that this is a very bad idea. |
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| 18:16.51 | zecrazytux | can anybody give me some hints on how to troubleshoot this, please ? |
| 18:16.55 | engla | dvs: hm ok |
| 18:17.21 | Supaplex | ksm: it could be lower with apt-get clean |
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| 18:17.49 | engla | dvs: it says it will render the system unbootable, which is not true since other kernels are installed |
| 18:18.30 | oiglimpse | so should I try linux image 2.6.32-45? |
| 18:18.46 | calrogman | Oh gods no, 3.2.0, oiglimpse. |
| 18:19.08 | H4x012 | guys what email server you offer for debian? |
| 18:19.15 | ksm | I keep having a problem with 3.2.2x kernels |
| 18:19.29 | ksm | Guess I should get 3.2.0 instead |
| 18:20.04 | engla | dvs: no boom on removal. that said, module load/unload doesn't work. which is expected. |
| 18:20.10 | Guest60452 | I used gparted to delete partitions on a computer with windows 7 and linux. I deleted the linux partition since linux would not boot. Now, after I deleted that partition with gparted, windows are not restarting and I get a message GRUB loading, error :no such partition, entering rescue mode, grub rescue>.. I did not erase NTFS partitions. How can I get Windows restart? |
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| 18:20.17 | calrogman | H4x012: You sound like the sort fo person who might be interested in mail.yahoo.com |
| 18:20.43 | Supaplex | yahoo mail? that's just torture. |
| 18:20.49 | calrogman | That's the joke. |
| 18:20.50 | zecrazytux | ahah |
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| 18:21.01 | zinx | Guest60452: you deleted the GRUB2 stage2 files |
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| 18:21.08 | zinx | Guest60452: and configuration file |
| 18:21.12 | H4x012 | :D |
| 18:21.30 | zinx | Guest60452: the easiest thing to do will be get a windows rescue disk of some sort and type fixmbr |
| 18:21.54 | ksm | Meh |
| 18:22.00 | calrogman | On the offchance you're serious, you're not very specific. Mailing lists are here: http://lists.debian.org/ and @debian.org email addresses are availale (given to?) Debian Developers and maybe Maintainers. |
| 18:22.07 | ksm | 3.2.0 doesn't show up on kernel.org's "stable" list |
| 18:22.24 | ksm | and I'm too stupid to find a 3.2.0 stable myself |
| 18:22.36 | zinx | Guest60452: you can also use the windows install CD and have it give you the recovery console - you just type fixmbr then exit, and you should be good |
| 18:22.47 | ksm | I'm running 3.2.21 now and I get somewhat odd load averages |
| 18:23.09 | calrogman | Or, you might have been asking about mail servers for running on a local machine. Look at task-mail-server |
| 18:23.59 | pparadis | ksm: i believe there's an amd64 kernel in backports at 3.2.18. |
| 18:24.13 | ksm | I'm using i386 |
| 18:24.22 | ksm | and wheezy |
| 18:24.32 | pparadis | hrm |
| 18:24.51 | ksm | I have a 3.1.6 kernel and a 3.2.21 kernel, and the original 2.6.x kernel from the install |
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| 18:25.17 | ksm | I only notice weird higher load averages on the 3.2.21 kernel |
| 18:25.40 | pparadis | anything in logs? |
| 18:25.47 | ksm | which ones |
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| 18:26.27 | pparadis | syslog, dmesg, etc |
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| 18:27.21 | ksm | Hm |
| 18:27.34 | Guest60452 | zinx, I thought windows had its own boot system. In any case, I do not have windows CD, but I do have Linux CD. Is it possible to install Linux and fix the problem? |
| 18:27.42 | pparadis | ksm: have you looked for what's using the extra CPU? maybe this might show something: 196-87.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian |
| 18:27.59 | pparadis | heh, copypasta fail |
| 18:28.04 | pparadis | ksm: ps -eo pcpu,pid,user,args | sort -k 1 -r | head -10 |
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| 18:28.22 | ksm | I've been watching htop, nothing new |
| 18:28.30 | zinx | Guest60452: it does, and doing fixmbr puts that boot system back in place |
| 18:29.01 | ksm | I often never go abole about a 0.5 load average, but on idle alone I'm reaching 0.7 and above with the 3.2.2x kernel |
| 18:29.01 | zinx | Guest60452: there is a Linux program to put a windows-compatible MBR back, but i do not know the name of it off-hand |
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| 18:30.39 | pparadis | zinx: http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 18:30.59 | zinx | pparadis: yeah, looks like one |
| 18:31.03 | korkman | Guest60452: windows 7 has a rescue partition. i'd try some supergrub bootdisk (included on may live cds) and try booting that rescue partition. i guess that works and the partition includes fixmbr. |
| 18:31.25 | korkman | ms-sys is included in systemrescuecd live cd |
| 18:31.47 | korkman | worked for me once |
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| 18:36.21 | Guest60452 | zinx, I have Debian Wheezy on cd . Do i just start installing it until disk formatting and try to install it in free space? And when would I do fixmbr? is it at the end of installation when grub is added to MBR? |
| 18:37.27 | zinx | Guest60452: don't install it |
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| 18:38.32 | korkman | Guest60452: download systemrescuecd and use that |
| 18:39.18 | korkman | Guest60452: or reinstall debian completely |
| 18:39.49 | korkman | Guest60452: if you want do dual boot, debian will detect windows and put it into grub menu |
| 18:40.28 | nvz | Guest60452: fixmbr is a windows command that will erase the bootloader and make linux inaccessible. You need not do anything but install debian, it'll find windows and add it to the grub menu |
| 18:40.48 | zinx | *shrug* |
| 18:40.58 | zinx | he doesn't seem to want Linux, kinda silly to wait through the install process |
| 18:41.27 | nvz | why is he running the installer in the first place if he doesn't want to install it |
| 18:41.29 | zinx | systemrescuecd or ultimatebootcd would probably be the easiest, or at least quickest, things to use |
| 18:41.35 | nvz | or is it all just a theoretical troll? |
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| 18:41.43 | zinx | nvz: that is why i told him not to install it >_< |
| 18:41.58 | Guest60452 | nvz, so it is safe to install debian in free space? I am not sure why zinx suggested not to install debian |
| 18:42.09 | zinx | nvz: he removed his Linux partition that had the GRUB2 stage2/config files on it, and now can not boot to windows. |
| 18:42.18 | zinx | nvz: because GRUB's still in the MBR |
| 18:42.40 | korkman | Guest60452: well the question is if you want to install debian or only rescue windows. |
| 18:43.29 | nvz | Guest60452: what I do is download unetbootin (unetbootin.sf.net) in windows, and strap Parted Magic onto a thumbdrive and boot that, use it to shrink the windows partition. You can install onto a windows partition but I wouldnt personally trust it in any way.. I'd neither trust the linux kernel's reverse engineered NTFS drivers to not at some point in time corrupt the NTFS nor would I trust windows to not infect or corrupt the linux |
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| 18:44.49 | zinx | nvz: hehe, i don't trust the Linux tools to do it right, but they have so far and I don't care if they do corrupt windows ;) |
| 18:46.03 | nvz | zinx: yeah well I dont trust windows as far as I can throw it... I wouldnt want my linux on a windows partition. I just recently (this month) installed WinXP Pro SP3 on here after not using windows at all for 12 years, on day 2 it was rooted with a ZeroAccess rootkit variant |
| 18:46.10 | Guest60452 | korkman, the priority now is to rescue windows, but I would like to have debian also. For some reason debian that was installed on the computer before did not boot. So, at this point I am looking for the easiest way to save widows. If I can do it with debian CD , it would be great |
| 18:46.52 | zinx | nvz: not surprising |
| 18:47.09 | zinx | nvz: you have to install windows without internet access, then install all the current updates (again, without internet access) |
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| 18:47.22 | zinx | nvz: otherwise there's a high likelyhood of getting rooted :P |
| 18:47.46 | zinx | Guest60452: yeah, installing Debian should fix it |
| 18:47.58 | zinx | Guest60452: if it doesn't boot Debian, we can probably help with that a little better, as well |
| 18:48.07 | nvz | Guest60452: windows is probably fine, you just have a broken bootloader, the tools on windows are fixboot (this fixes just the ntldr and stuff actually ON the windows partition) and fixmbr which installs the jump code on the MBR (not needed if you have a real bootloader like grub) |
| 18:48.24 | korkman | Guest60452: installing debian doesn't take too long so go for that since you want it mid-term anyway |
| 18:48.30 | nvz | Guest60452: do you have a working grub that it boots to on the system right now? |
| 18:48.43 | zinx | nvz: his grub is missing the stage2/cfg |
| 18:48.54 | zinx | nvz: because that was on the debian partition ;) |
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| 18:49.02 | nvz | ah.. just wondering if I could tell him how to boot windows from what he got now |
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| 18:49.13 | korkman | Guest60452: is the debian partition still intact or did you resize the windows partition? |
| 18:49.19 | zinx | probably would only take a chainloader (hd0,0)+1 |
| 18:49.34 | nvz | I know how it can be a little scary when you're a windows user and think you hosed your saftey net.. heh |
| 18:49.36 | oilglimpse | Thank you all, the kernel update + reboot restored my wireless connectivity |
| 18:49.39 | zinx | nvz: yeah |
| 18:49.51 | Guest60452 | nvz, I have grub rescue> on the screen right now |
| 18:49.55 | zinx | Guest60452: yeah.. just to be clear, your windows stuff is probably 100% ok |
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| 18:50.27 | Guest60452 | korkman, I did not touch any ntfs partitions |
| 18:50.38 | zinx | Guest60452: type chainloader (hd0,msdos1)+1 |
| 18:50.52 | korkman | Guest60452: like zinx says |
| 18:50.53 | nvz | Guest60452: do you have something to boot to a command prompt with? Windows media that is.. cause a fixmbr should give you the satisfaction of seeing windows boot again and letting chkdsk run if it needs to |
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| 18:51.32 | korkman | Guest60452: if that doesn't work, just install debian to the free partition |
| 18:51.36 | zinx | ^^ |
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| 18:53.03 | Guest60452 | zinx, i get unknown command 'chainloader' |
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| 18:53.23 | zinx | Guest60452: sigh, guess grub stage1 isn't so featureful these days |
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| 18:54.04 | zinx | Guest60452: yeah, if you do want Debian, just install it |
| 18:54.21 | zinx | Guest60452: we can help you with any boot issues, and it should make GRUB start functioning again with Windows as an option as well |
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| 18:56.21 | Guest60452 | zinx, I did find window recovery disks for that computer, but from what I understand it is not the same as rescue disk? |
| 18:56.37 | zinx | Guest60452: sometimes they aren't, sometimes they are |
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| 18:57.33 | nvz | Microsoft got real ignorant about being able to have boot media over the years.. you used you be able to make a bootable or recue disk just as easy as format one.. |
| 18:58.09 | Guest60452 | zinx, I think I will try installing Debian. It should at least restore the boot loader, right? |
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| 18:58.34 | zinx | Guest60452: yes |
| 18:58.35 | UltraMC | Hi my apache stoped working |
| 18:58.54 | UltraMC | http://pastebin.com/SVMkGrg0 |
| 18:58.55 | davidfn | hi everyone.I have a linux box with a bridge interface br0,in which eth0 and eth1 join,and a ppp0 interface performs pppoe dialup.forwarding between br0 and ppp0 is open.now i want to shape traffic to let eth0 and eth1 have different prio.should I make it in br0 or ppp0? |
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| 19:01.00 | davidfn | any network experts? |
| 19:01.11 | davidfn | hi everyone.I have a linux box with a bridge interface br0,in which eth0 and eth1 join,and a ppp0 interface performs pppoe dialup.forwarding between br0 and ppp0 is open.now i want to shape traffic to let eth0 and eth1 have different prio.should I make it in br0 or ppp0? |
| 19:01.36 | nvz | try it one more time, I dont think I can read stuff unless its pasted 3 times |
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| 19:04.45 | nodiscc | hi all, is there a way to decrease a process priority when it reaches a certain CPU load? |
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| 19:04.57 | nodiscc | i just ran `convert -adjoin -format pdf *.jpg cours.pdf` and my netbook was stuck for 5 minutes |
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| 19:05.08 | nodiscc | not sure if the command was right, I managed to Ctrl+C it |
| 19:05.15 | nodiscc | i was reading about cpulimits, but it looks like they just KILL the process if it takes too much CPU time |
| 19:05.23 | nodiscc | so is there a way to make cpulimit just `renice` the process? |
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| 19:13.43 | yann2 | is there a way to configure debian to install via serial console? Right after it boots the USB I don't get anything anymore... |
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| 19:15.09 | korkman | yann2: you need a specific logo-free bootloader |
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| 19:15.36 | korkman | yann2: any switch to graphics mode kills serial conversion |
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| 19:16.22 | korkman | yann2: maybe try selecting the text-mode installer blind first, that'd be easy |
| 19:17.05 | yann2 | I m using the netinst image, I need to find a way to alter the image though according to http://www.hacom.net/kb/debian-installer-serial-console-support |
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| 19:22.03 | gnarface | what's the best way to make a wifi hotspot out of a laptop with 2 network devices? |
| 19:22.12 | gnarface | (assuming debian squeeze) |
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| 19:23.43 | korkman | yann2: the howto is written for lenny, but i think it's true for squeeze as well unless there's a special cd image for this |
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| 19:26.48 | ksm | gnarface: turn the laptop into a gateway/router/something and have it as an ad-hoc? |
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| 19:29.06 | Ephexeve | Hey guys, question, I installed Squeeze using Gnome 2, everything working perfect,but I have a sound system of 5.1 and in my keyboard I have a up and down volume butom, when pressed it lowers the volume from the backspeakers, how can I fix this and set the settings for 5.1? I remember Ubuntu had some configurations for that |
| 19:29.59 | korkman | Ephexeve: is pulseaudio installed? |
| 19:30.12 | Ephexeve | korkman: No, which packaged should I install? |
| 19:30.29 | korkman | Ephexeve: well, "pulseaudio" ;-) |
| 19:30.55 | ksm | Hm |
| 19:31.04 | ksm | trying to compile the 3.4.4 kernel and I get this: debian/ruleset/targets/common.mk:286: *** Cannot find lguest tools. Stop. |
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| 19:32.23 | korkman | Ephexeve: can't remember if squeeze desktop dependencies pull in pulseaudio |
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| 19:33.56 | pparadis | ksm: do you need lguest? |
| 19:33.58 | pparadis | http://wiki.debian.org/Lguest |
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| 19:34.30 | ksm | pparadis: I was assuming I already had everything I needed since I've compiled kernels on this before |
| 19:34.43 | pparadis | ksm: if not, the most straightforward way around that seems to be this: make menuconfig and set processor type and features > paravirtualized guest support > lguest guest support (uncheck) |
| 19:35.11 | Ephexeve | korkman: Hmm, I installed pulseaudio and nothing happened.. |
| 19:35.35 | pparadis | ksm: bug 663474 seems relevant, but yeah, if you don't care about that stuff, i'd just disable it and move on. |
| 19:37.08 | ksm | Yeah I rarely use virtualization, but I might sometime later on, guess I'll just disable |
| 19:37.14 | korkman | Ephexeve: run "pavucontrol" and check if pulse has a reasonable understanding of your channels |
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| 19:38.00 | pparadis | ksm: as per the wiki entry i gave you before, lguest is experimental stuff anyhow. it's not necessary to do virtualization on the box. |
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| 19:38.57 | Ephexeve | korkman: No, nothing detected except HDMI |
| 19:39.32 | ksm | disabled what you said and I still get the error |
| 19:39.39 | ksm | and saved the config ofcourse |
| 19:39.40 | ksm | hm |
| 19:40.07 | pparadis | that's certainly odd, because if the feature is disabled it shouldn't care... unless there's another hook for it somewhere in the config. |
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| 19:41.03 | korkman | Ephexeve: sounds like some other daemon is hogging the soundcard :-/ did you logout / login? or maybe even do a restart |
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| 19:45.02 | ksm | pparadis: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34991499/offscrot/lguest1.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34991499/offscrot/lguest2.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34991499/offscrot/lguest3.png |
| 19:45.36 | rzs19 | hello, is there a boot argument to set the default graficcard? |
| 19:46.00 | pparadis | ksm: i'd remove Linux hypervisor example code there. |
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| 19:46.17 | ksm | pparadis: ok |
| 19:46.19 | rzs19 | i have two installed and i want to use the second one. i'm not talking about xorg. |
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| 19:47.27 | korkman | rzs19: you want to select a specific adapter for the vga console? don't know how to set that, i'm afraid the bios makes that decision |
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| 19:47.28 | rzs19 | the one in the PCIe x1 should be used for the linux console and i want passthrough that one in the PCe x16 slot to a kvm guest. |
| 19:47.38 | ksm | pparadis: that worked, thanks |
| 19:47.58 | rzs19 | korkman: yep, thats what i want. |
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| 19:48.23 | rzs19 | korkman: and in the bios there is no option to select this. |
| 19:49.21 | pparadis | ksm: you're welcome, glad it worked for you! |
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| 19:49.56 | Ephexeve | korkman: Will try that now |
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| 19:50.29 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 19:50.30 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.4-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.20-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.20-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
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| 19:51.05 | dvs | hmmm... When did the backport kernel get updated? |
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| 19:51.07 | korkman | rzs19: yeah i would have been surprised if there was any option. sounds very interesting, though. try the people on #linux, too. |
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| 19:51.32 | _droid | hi people i'm no console expert but maybe someone can help me in my shell script |
| 19:51.59 | _droid | i have several yourube links saved in a file that i want to download with youtube-dl |
| 19:52.21 | rzs19 | korkman: maybe i need to use xen? |
| 19:52.26 | _droid | now what is the best way to process each line which represents a youtube link? |
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| 19:52.32 | rzs19 | cant join #linux, need to be invited |
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| 19:52.40 | *** topic/#debian by themill -> squeeze (6.0.5) released; /msg dpkg squeeze | lenny no longer on mirrors; EOL 2012-02-06; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | wheezy frozen; /msg dpkg freeze | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ | channel logs: http://deb.li/yQXC |
| 19:52.41 | korkman | experimental has kernel 3.4? is there a slim chance it will make it into wheezy? |
| 19:52.56 | themill | topicdiff: wheezy frozen.... bug squashing time! |
| 19:53.03 | korkman | rzs19: um, try ##linux |
| 19:53.05 | ompaul | rzs19: register with freenode |
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| 19:53.26 | korkman | rzs19: ah, ompaul knows |
| 19:54.11 | dvs | korkman: none |
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| 19:54.43 | jelly-home | rzs19: korkman's right too. "invite only" happens with freenode channel redirection when you're already in the destination channel, and you seem to be in ##linux |
| 19:55.01 | jelly-home | one hash linux is just a redirection to two hashed channel |
| 19:55.52 | korkman | rzs19: quite a coincidence, they're on Xen VGA passthough topic right now :-) |
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| 19:57.19 | hanfi | _droid: cat <file>; while read line; do command $line; done (or something like that) |
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| 19:57.58 | hanfi | arg, that should be `cat <file> | while....` pipe not ; |
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| 19:58.28 | calrogman | for what purpose _droid? if you're wanting to just download a bunch of videos, youtube-dl has an option for reading in a list of URLs from a file |
| 19:58.45 | rzs19 | :D |
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| 19:59.03 | _droid | true but, i want to leave the option open for wget |
| 19:59.03 | jelly-home | korkman: if you require a newer kernel, you can install it yourself, and it's probably going to find its way to wheezy-backports and kmuto's d-i anyway |
| 19:59.15 | rzs19 | i have bought a intel xeon e3110 and a vpro certified motherboard to test vga passthrough last week. |
| 19:59.41 | rzs19 | an* |
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| 20:01.03 | rzs19 | i can passthrough the graphiccard, but the guest can not initialize it, so i want to switch the console output to the secondary pcie adapter, to test if its working, or maybe defect, wihtout changing it. |
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| 20:02.06 | rzs19 | damn, my sentence are dizzying, damn hot here :/ |
| 20:02.23 | calrogman | video=VGA-1 in the kernel boot args, maybe, rzs19? |
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| 20:02.58 | calrogman | not entirely sure of syntax of the video= paramater, it's not brilliantly documented |
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| 20:03.30 | rzs19 | does it start with zero, or one? |
| 20:03.35 | rzs19 | *asking google* |
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| 20:05.36 | Pussysale | hi |
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| 20:06.08 | Pussysale | Someone wanna buy my pussy |
| 20:06.19 | jelly-home | !ops Pussysale is being a smart aleck |
| 20:06.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: Pussysale is being a smart aleck |
| 20:06.52 | rzs19 | calrogman, seem ur right, need to test it :) |
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| 20:07.27 | calrogman | I've only on display adapter, so that's frankly surprising, rzs19. Glad I could help, nonetheless. |
| 20:07.34 | calrogman | s/on/one/2 |
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| 20:10.01 | ksm | Wait, so the releases aere being rolled? |
| 20:10.05 | ksm | *are |
| 20:10.24 | ksm | Do we celebrate now? |
| 20:10.35 | jelly-home | ksm: they roll up one every 2-3 years |
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| 20:11.53 | themill | dpkg: tell ksm about freeze |
| 20:11.59 | rzs19 | calrogman: found soemthing like that: http://vitalogy.cwsurf.de/wiki/doku.php?id=linux:gentoo:kernel:start but cant figure out, how to select the right adapter, seems like the adapter out? |
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| 20:15.24 | calrogman | rzs19: Check the dmesg output for lines including VGA, HDMI, DVI etc. |
| 20:15.47 | korkman | rzs19: from the information gathered so far, i'd try "video=VGA-0:d video=VGA-1:e" if the first card has only one analog output and the second has analog connected |
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| 20:16.57 | korkman | rzs19: but i'm still not convinced the video flag works across different cards :-/ |
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| 20:17.32 | calrogman | korkman: It does, according to Documentation/fb/modedb.txt |
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| 20:19.41 | mmm4m5m | korkman: for your info - most simple solution is "use initrd from hd-media" - it can search for installer ISO http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/booting-debian-iso-with-grub2-and-a-separate-kernel-809266/#post3978260 ... coz I had one ubuntu ISO there, I needed boot param "debconf/priority=medium" - so I can select which ISO file to be used. Cheers :) |
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| 20:25.38 | nodiscc | how do I create an empty APT keyring? |
| 20:26.06 | dondelelcaro | nodiscc: an empty file should work |
| 20:26.15 | dondelelcaro | though I've no clue why you'd want that |
| 20:26.23 | korkman | mmm4m5m: mh yeah, that's what i'd call not worth the effort :-) i used to tear isos apart to put them into my bootloader as well, but "what for?" i thought one day and installed a minimal debian into a partition which i now call my "personal rescue system" |
| 20:27.11 | korkman | mmm4m5m: pretty sure it can debootstrap, too, if it want it to |
| 20:27.37 | nodiscc | dondelelcaro: it doesn't. `sudo touch /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/satyajit-themes.gpg` |
| 20:27.51 | nodiscc | sudo apt-key --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/satyajit-themes.gpg adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 596D65AB5F0D930C |
| 20:28.01 | nodiscc | Error: The specified keyring »/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/satyajit-themes.gpg« is missing or not readable |
| 20:28.50 | ompaul | nodiscc: why are you using ubuntu stuff on a debian box? |
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| 20:28.53 | nodiscc | dondelelcaro: oops, my bad; it had a typo. |
| 20:28.56 | nodiscc | thanks |
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| 20:29.25 | nodiscc | ompaul: don't be,like that. These are just a few gtk themes. |
| 20:29.45 | ompaul | nodiscc: like what, what exactly are you ascribing to my question? |
| 20:30.30 | nodiscc | ompaul: no offense intended. People always get nervous when I talk about addind launchpad PPAs to my apt sources. |
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| 20:30.50 | ompaul | nodiscc: my worry is you incorporate something that breaks your machine and we go "you get to keep the pieces", which is not the desired outcome |
| 20:31.08 | jelly-home | it could be the desired outcome FOR US |
| 20:31.13 | ompaul | hehe |
| 20:32.04 | nodiscc | no breakage in sight, no worries. |
| 20:32.07 | ompaul | jelly-home: you may have a point, I'm not forging the chance to agree with you, I'll just postpone my public consent to that idea, right now. |
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| 20:32.18 | ompaul | forgoing even |
| 20:32.30 | pparadis | FORGED IN THE FIRES OF [no carrier] |
| 20:32.40 | ompaul | pparadis: : |
| 20:32.51 | ompaul | the blank face of being cut off |
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| 20:35.31 | liuyuan | Hi guys, I tried installing debian bumblebee, but was able to break my environment instead. Can I please have some pointers? Thanks. |
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| 20:36.44 | nodiscc | liuyuan: where did you get that bumblebee install? do you still have a /usr/ directory ? |
| 20:36.47 | pparadis | liuyuan: did you read all this? http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 20:37.23 | liuyuan | nodiscc: I'm using the sid package, pparadis, yes I have, thank you |
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| 20:38.01 | liuyuan | http://paste.debian.net/177125 |
| 20:38.12 | liuyuan | http://suwako.nomanga.net/ |
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| 20:43.32 | hanfi | someone knows what happened to http://packages.debian.org/sid/defoma ? i try find the 11.12 version...but all i get is 404 errors. |
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| 20:44.04 | dvs | ,v deforma |
| 20:44.05 | judd | No package named 'deforma' was found in i386. |
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| 20:44.16 | hanfi | ,defoma |
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| 20:47.35 | jelly-home | third try, anyone |
| 20:47.48 | jelly-home | no? |
| 20:47.52 | jelly-home | ,v defoma |
| 20:47.53 | judd | Package: defoma on i386 -- lenny: 0.11.10-0.2; squeeze: 0.11.11 |
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| 20:48.17 | jelly-home | hanfi: Debian got rid of it. It's not needed any more. |
| 20:49.44 | jelly-home | ,bug 651494 |
| 20:49.45 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/651494 in ftp.debian.org (done, moreinfo): «RM: defoma -- RoQA; Debian-specific, unmaintained, obsoleted by fontconfig»; severity: normal; opened: 2011-12-09; last modified: 2012-06-01. |
| 20:50.42 | jelly-home | hanfi: hope that answers your query |
| 20:50.48 | hanfi | i know, just it was removed abut when my problems started...so i thought its worth a try to use the sid version. Why does the debian website refere to that then? |
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| 20:51.49 | jelly-home | perhaps you found an automatically generated part of the web site |
| 20:52.10 | sirtophat | why do graphical environments tend to have so much flashing lights and alarms when you use them as root? I think it's annoying |
| 20:52.26 | dvs | !root |
| 20:52.26 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
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| 20:53.06 | pparadis | sirtophat: in short, things should be run at the least permission level possible. |
| 20:53.09 | sirtophat | programs shouldn't act like I don't know what I'm doing |
| 20:53.37 | pparadis | okay, so do what you want then. you can also modify them as you wish, you've got the source. that said, the rest of world isn't you, and isn't going to cater to you. |
| 20:53.48 | sirtophat | yeah |
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| 20:55.36 | pjc_ | sirtophat: it warns you because its a bad idea, why else? |
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| 20:55.57 | sirtophat | I don't really think it's that bad of an idea |
| 20:55.59 | dvs | pjc_: because it's wrong!!!! ;-P |
| 20:56.03 | Harzilein | sirtophat: which de are you referring to in particular? |
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| 20:56.35 | sirtophat | the file manager in xfce has a big red bar 'Warning, you are using the root account, you may harm your system' |
| 20:56.38 | sirtophat | I'm sure it's easy to remove |
| 20:56.47 | pjc_ | dvs: indeed it is |
| 20:57.00 | Harzilein | sirtophat: hmm |
| 20:57.03 | jelly-home | sirtophat: do you really know? Do you know GTK+ is specifically not made with any security concerns and not ever tested to work well as root? |
| 20:57.05 | dvs | remove?!? |
| 20:57.24 | sirtophat | remove or disable |
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| 20:57.37 | sirtophat | since it doesn't tell me anything I didn't already know |
| 20:57.49 | jelly-home | the warning is not there for you. |
| 20:57.55 | faustische | My WiFi Internet connection deteriorates over time; nothing would work without VPN, I would still be able to ping everything e.g. 8.8.8.8 or 4.2.2.4. After a restart the problem would magically go away. |
| 20:57.56 | sirtophat | I know |
| 20:58.08 | jelly-home | sirtophat: therefore, you can safely ignore it. |
| 20:58.16 | pparadis | why are we all still talking about this? |
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| 20:58.30 | faustische | I've tried: ifconfig down wlan0, ifconfig up wlan0 |
| 20:58.43 | faustische | /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 20:58.49 | faustische | /etc/init.d/network-manager restart |
| 20:59.01 | faustische | and: dhclient and dhclient -r |
| 20:59.04 | faustische | to no avail |
| 20:59.07 | sirtophat | when I use that it tells me it's depricated |
| 20:59.20 | faustische | same thing happens with nDisWrapper and kernel modules |
| 20:59.21 | Harzilein | sirtophat: i agree, that's slightly silly. otoh i really think most administrative work does not really require the sort of interface you get from thunar. i used to guess that people were unnecessarily using mc as root as well. i guess what you'd really want is some kind of sudofs or some other way to temporarily gain transparent fs access with another user's permission |
| 20:59.27 | faustische | Any idea? |
| 20:59.57 | faustische | Same thing happens on Ubuntu and Debian, alike! |
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| 21:00.53 | faustische | Year 1984, Iran, NewSpeak, DoubleTalk, DoubleThink, War is Peace, Slavery is Freedom |
| 21:00.58 | faustische | ^ Literally |
| 21:00.59 | Harzilein | sirtophat: the windows desktop analogy would be running explorer.exe with administrative privileges, that's usually a lot more permissions than you really need. |
| 21:01.05 | faustische | (Islamic Republic of Iran) |
| 21:01.12 | sirtophat | don't most people do that? |
| 21:01.12 | pjc_ | faustische: are you using a manager like wicd or network-manager? |
| 21:01.20 | faustische | pjc_, yes |
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| 21:01.28 | pjc_ | which one? |
| 21:01.36 | faustische | pjc_, network-manager |
| 21:01.38 | Harzilein | sirtophat: they do, i'm just saying it is a bad practice because it is not fine grained enough |
| 21:02.01 | faustische | I'm a prole |
| 21:02.05 | faustische | though |
| 21:02.11 | faustische | a freeman |
| 21:02.15 | pjc_ | faustische: only wicd here, sorry |
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| 21:02.26 | faustische | pjc_, thank you anyway |
| 21:02.38 | dvs | pjc_: no longer supported! |
| 21:02.51 | jelly-home | sirtophat: take it up with upstream xfce and GTK+, please. The behaviour is perfectly reasonable. |
| 21:03.05 | sirtophat | I'm not really that bothered by it |
| 21:03.31 | pjc_ | dvs: wicd? |
| 21:03.36 | jelly-home | sirtophat: then stop commenting on it, and problem solved |
| 21:03.42 | pparadis | http://www.wethepeeps.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/dead-horse.jpg |
| 21:03.50 | dvs | pjc_: yup |
| 21:03.58 | sirtophat | I stopped commenting on it 7 minutes ago |
| 21:04.44 | pjc_ | dvs: does not bother me atm, squeeze |
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| 21:08.24 | Joshun | hi |
| 21:08.39 | Joshun | does anybody know where i can find asoundlib.h |
| 21:08.53 | dvs | ,find asoundlib.h |
| 21:09.08 | Joshun | as in what package |
| 21:09.44 | jelly-home | dvs: "file" |
| 21:09.46 | aidalgol | Joshun: dpkg -S is one option |
| 21:09.57 | Joshun | ok thanks |
| 21:10.00 | Joshun | i'll try that |
| 21:10.09 | calrogman | Maybe, just a though, libasound2-dev |
| 21:10.14 | dvs | ah |
| 21:10.16 | calrogman | Wild speculation. |
| 21:10.26 | dvs | ,file asoundlib.h |
| 21:10.36 | judd | Search for asoundlib.h in squeeze/i386: libasound2-dev: usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h, usr/include/sys/asoundlib.h |
| 21:10.36 | dvs | thx |
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| 21:11.57 | vollhorster | 23:03 < pparadis> http://www.wethepeeps.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/dead-horse.jpg |
| 21:12.01 | vollhorster | 23:03 < pparadis> http://www.wethepeeps.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/dead-horse.jpg |
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| 21:13.15 | H4x012 | what king of auto backup system you suggest for /var/www ? |
| 21:13.39 | dvs | rsnapshot |
| 21:13.52 | boudiccas | rsync |
| 21:14.05 | aidalgol | Joshun: This lists and explains all the ways to find stuff on Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
| 21:14.14 | SpComb | rsnapshot or similar are nice |
| 21:14.19 | aidalgol | (At least, I think it's all the ways.) |
| 21:14.55 | nodiscc | anyone know a good rss reader? liferea is too heavy for my box |
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| 21:16.16 | sirtophat | firefox? |
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| 21:16.52 | aidalgol | If Liferea is too heavy for him, I'd be very surprised if he is using Firefox. |
| 21:17.25 | aidalgol | If you're an Emacs user, there's the built-in Newsticker. |
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| 21:18.09 | engla | nodiscc: too heavy in what way? |
| 21:18.19 | Joshun | i sorted out the asound thing |
| 21:18.25 | Joshun | can't find bzlib.h anywhere though |
| 21:18.31 | Joshun | even with dpkg -S |
| 21:18.48 | dvs | ,file bzlib.h |
| 21:18.50 | aidalgol | Joshun: Did you look at that page I referred you to? |
| 21:18.53 | judd | Search for bzlib.h in squeeze/i386: libbz2-dev: usr/include/bzlib.h; libcomplearn1-headers: usr/include/complearn-1.0/complearn/complearn-rcbzlib.h |
| 21:19.03 | aidalgol | I think dpkg -S only finds installed files. |
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| 21:20.07 | Joshun | i'll try dlocate |
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| 21:21.40 | nodiscc | engla: mem usage, mostly. well it also hogs my cpu when updating my feeds (200+) |
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| 21:24.05 | karihre | Does anyone know the difference between the smartd and smartmontools init scripts? |
| 21:24.38 | aidalgol | karihre: The init scripts start/stop the daemon. |
| 21:24.52 | karihre | I know, but which one? why are there two of them? |
| 21:25.01 | aidalgol | Two what? |
| 21:25.02 | karihre | there is only one daemon afaik |
| 21:25.08 | jelly-home | karihre: there is no /etc/init.d/smartd in squeeze any more. |
| 21:25.14 | karihre | I have both /etc/init.d/smartd and /etc/init.d/smartmontools |
| 21:25.21 | karihre | hmm okay, so it is some legacy stuff |
| 21:25.33 | aidalgol | oh, sorry, I misunderstood your question |
| 21:25.36 | jelly-home | karihre: check which package it belongs to, and what state that package is in |
| 21:25.37 | karihre | (just upgraded to wheezy) |
| 21:25.48 | karihre | will do |
| 21:26.13 | pparadis | nod, some cruft may need to be purged. |
| 21:26.26 | jelly-home | karihre: it could be leftover configuration from an old, removed but not purged package |
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| 21:26.46 | jelly-home | judd: file etc/init.d/smartd |
| 21:26.49 | Joshun | running make, fingers crossed |
| 21:26.50 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
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| 21:27.06 | pparadis | hehe --> http://www.spsmw.org/Portals/0/Gallery/Album/189/Cruft%20Street.jpg |
| 21:27.37 | engla | nodiscc: ok. using wheezy or squeeze? the newer version is faster, not sure if it's better. |
| 21:27.52 | Rockj | btw |
| 21:27.54 | Rockj | http://serverfault.com/questions/403732/anyone-else-experiencing-high-rates-of-linux-server-crashes-today |
| 21:27.58 | engla | nodiscc: there's a ncurses rss reader in debian I know |
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| 21:28.40 | karihre | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/0bBjePD5 according to this they both belong to smartmontools package, validated by this: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/smartmontools/filelist |
| 21:28.42 | nodiscc | engla: i'm on wheezy, and indeed liferea 1.8 is faster, the UI doesn't hang anymore when updating and son on, cool improvements but it's still too fat for this machine. |
| 21:29.00 | nodiscc | engla: yeah newsbeuter i heard of it, but i like, you know, pictures. |
| 21:29.11 | pparadis | Rockj: yeah, that's not pretty. i took ntpd off most of my stuff a while back for completely unrelated reasons, but i'm glad i did now. |
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| 21:29.43 | karihre | weird stuff, I guess I have to start to dig into the files and try to see what the difference is |
| 21:30.00 | jelly-home | Rockj: quick, patch and reboot your machines before it's too late!!! |
| 21:30.14 | Joshun | i'm not even running on i386 |
| 21:30.16 | nodiscc | it looks like feed readers development is a no man's land nowadays |
| 21:30.24 | Joshun | its armel |
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| 21:31.01 | Rockj | jelly-home: heh, does it really help to reboot before the leap second thing has been done? |
| 21:31.18 | engla | Rockj: it should be enough to disable ntpd for today? |
| 21:31.21 | jelly-home | Rockj: if you apply the fix to your kernel? Certainly |
| 21:31.34 | Rockj | turned off ntpd, we'll see if the few servers I have survives |
| 21:32.00 | Rockj | jelly-home: debian released kernel update? or requires manual patching? |
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| 21:34.45 | karihre | okay this leap second issue seems quite .. big? |
| 21:35.05 | tremon | hmm... 25 minutes to midnight here... |
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| 21:35.25 | jelly-home | Rockj: tbh, I have no idea. Upstream fix at http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1203.1/04598.html |
| 21:36.01 | Rockj | jelly-home: I'll wait until 02.30 CEST (then at least it has been 00.00 UTC) and Ill just do a rolling reboots of all my servers if their still alive :P |
| 21:36.01 | dvs | waves bye to tremon |
| 21:37.35 | pparadis | karihre: yeah, it's a bit of a big deal. hopefully people pay attention to it. somebody should probably submit it to /. as well, since that might help a bunch of folks not get screwed. |
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| 21:38.52 | karihre | hmm yes, I was not previously aware of this, luckily I'm on UTC so I guess I have some time :) |
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| 21:40.53 | jelly-home | I just did a (/etc/init.d/ntpd stop; sleep 7200; /etc/init.d/ntpd start) & |
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| 21:41.11 | dvs | and you survivied!?! |
| 21:41.25 | jelly-home | barely |
| 21:41.37 | Rockj | hihi |
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| 21:41.58 | jelly-home | but the csi victim on tv died |
| 21:42.20 | tremon | jelly-home: that might not help. Leap seconds are announced to the kernel in advance. As one of the comments states, use adjtimex -p and if the status: field has bit 4 set (value 16) the leap second will still occur |
| 21:42.21 | dvs | oh noes! The kernel claims its first victim! |
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| 21:43.55 | jelly-home | tremon: rats! |
| 21:44.02 | brong_ | tremon: I've updated the serverfault article with a link to the script I used |
| 21:44.13 | brong_ | http://serverfault.com/questions/403732/anyone-else-experiencing-high-rates-of-linux-server-crashes-today |
| 21:44.36 | tremon | doesn't enjoy working against the clock... |
| 21:44.40 | brong_ | haha |
| 21:44.44 | brong_ | it's a timebomb |
| 21:45.42 | dvs | is reminded of R.E.M. |
| 21:46.02 | brong_ | I'm real unpleased about the upstream fix because it's in 3.3 |
| 21:46.06 | pparadis | dvs: are you losing your religion? |
| 21:46.12 | jelly-home | tremon: I'm gone... (17 && 16) is true!! |
| 21:46.13 | brong_ | and I'd bloody be on 3.3, except they screwed up the bnx2 firmware |
| 21:46.27 | brong_ | and I haven't been bothered to try and fix it myself |
| 21:46.34 | dvs | pparadis: nope, just waiting for the End of the World |
| 21:46.38 | brong_ | figured I'd just stay with the 3.2 stables |
| 21:46.44 | pparadis | dvs: roger that, i feel fine too. |
| 21:46.46 | brong_ | speaking of which, why didn't it get backported to them? |
| 21:46.58 | brong_ | *sigh* |
| 21:47.06 | dimir | http://serverfault.com/questions/403732/anyone-else-experiencing-high-rates-of-linux-server-crashes-today |
| 21:47.14 | dimir | oh, already posted |
| 21:47.49 | tremon | jelly-home: according to one of the links, using adjtimex -S 1 will reset the bit |
| 21:48.17 | brong_ | dimir: yeah, I got a lot of karma out of that! |
| 21:48.18 | jelly-home | well this machine already had a crash today (for likely unrelated raisins) |
| 21:48.19 | tremon | note to others: -S 1 is only correct because jelly's status value was 17 |
| 21:48.39 | jelly-home | but that will steal a second |
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| 21:48.53 | brong_ | the perl script at http://linux.brong.fastmail.fm/2012-06-30/fixtime.pl will do the right magic for you |
| 21:49.05 | brong_ | I figure ntp will fix that tomorrow some itme |
| 21:49.14 | brong_ | I don't do anything which needs to-the-second accuracy really |
| 21:49.36 | tremon | catches himself trying to calculate 16401&48 by head |
| 21:49.37 | karihre | ok looking at the contents of the smartmontools package in wheezy it looks like the maintainer simply forgot to remove the smartd init script (there is a smartmontools initscript which does pretty much the same except the smartd seems to be a general one for many distros), any input on this, should I file a bug report? (smartd script: http://pastebin.com/exsA9BJ8 smartmontools script: http://pastebin.com/BhUDpf7v) |
| 21:50.07 | karihre | (if anyone wants to have a look at the package: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/smartmontools) |
| 21:51.04 | jelly-home | brong_: y u no close $cmdpipe |
| 21:51.36 | brong_ | oh, I just pinched bronto's code |
| 21:51.40 | brong_ | I didn't make it pretty ;) |
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| 21:52.04 | karihre | nevermind; http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631075 |
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| 21:52.37 | tremon | great... on my desktop I can't install adjtimex because wine is broken... |
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| 21:53.18 | jelly-home | tremon: you can often purge any broken packages with dpkg |
| 21:53.41 | tremon | yeah, but I don't want to purge it :) |
| 21:53.49 | jelly-home | tremon: install it later? |
| 21:53.52 | tremon | apt-get download && dpkg -i will do the trick, hopefully |
| 21:54.10 | pparadis | tremon: grab the source and compile it ;) |
| 21:54.13 | brong_ | heh |
| 21:54.22 | brong_ | I'll toss the squeeze binary up too |
| 21:54.25 | brong_ | you don't need anything else |
| 21:54.31 | pparadis | noc |
| 21:54.33 | pparadis | heh, nod rather |
| 21:54.37 | pparadis | although noc applies here |
| 21:55.50 | tremon | hmm... don't think the build-dep and dpkg-buildpackage would have finished in the 4 minutes I have left :) |
| 21:56.18 | pparadis | grab the binary from brong_ :) |
| 21:56.41 | brong_ | http://linux.brong.fastmail.fm/2012-06-30/adjtimex |
| 21:56.56 | brong_ | it's UTC when it happens, right? |
| 21:57.00 | brong_ | or is it localtime? |
| 21:57.10 | tremon | no need, apt-get download and dpkg -i worked fine |
| 21:57.13 | karihre | localtime I'd guess |
| 21:57.13 | brong_ | localtime would be bogus |
| 21:57.28 | brong_ | my servers are in New York anyway |
| 21:57.29 | brong_ | most of them |
| 21:57.33 | brong_ | some in Iceland |
| 21:57.37 | tremon | localtime, otherwise people wouldn't have been complaining for the past few hours |
| 21:57.51 | tremon | would have been great fun if it would have been utc |
| 21:57.59 | pparadis | yeah, that would have been epic. |
| 21:58.02 | pparadis | ..... BOOM |
| 21:58.02 | brong_ | tremon: no - it's the pre adjtimexing that's the problem |
| 21:58.14 | brong_ | at least for us |
| 21:58.16 | tremon | oh, must have misread it then |
| 21:58.27 | brong_ | whole day of random booms |
| 21:58.33 | brong_ | in New York and one in Iceland |
| 21:58.51 | tremon | haven't had pre-issues here |
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| 22:00.08 | tremon | yay |
| 22:00.19 | dvs | BOOM! |
| 22:00.31 | tremon | happy 1st of july everyone ;) |
| 22:00.41 | dvs | not here! |
| 22:00.50 | dvs | still waits for Canada Day |
| 22:01.16 | tremon | happy 1st of July to everyone in CEST then ;) |
| 22:01.29 | jelly-home | tremon: UTC is where the action's at |
| 22:01.52 | dvs | in an hour? |
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| 22:01.57 | jelly-home | two |
| 22:02.22 | tremon | hmm... the fun part is that my server has set the leap second bit again |
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| 22:02.44 | jelly-home | brong_: I checked your perl code for malware but can't vouch for that adjtimex binary |
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| 22:02.59 | jelly-home | tremon: forgot to stop ntpd? |
| 22:03.03 | brong_ | jelly-home: yeah, no shit |
| 22:03.17 | brong_ | I copied it from /sbin on a squeeze box |
| 22:03.19 | brong_ | 64 bit |
| 22:03.30 | jelly-home | sha1sum beyoatch |
| 22:03.57 | tremon | jelly-home: ah, yes. But that's running on my desktop too, and there it didn't set the flag |
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| 22:07.52 | karihre | Ok while I'm here, back in the days I would modify when services are turned on/off with update-rc.d and that still works, but with this new style service management (with the dependencies in the comment at the top of the service scripts) are there some new tools for managing this? |
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| 22:09.06 | tremon | karihre: insserv handles dependency-based boot, but update-rc.d acts as a frontend for that |
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| 22:09.18 | Wizard | Hi. |
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| 22:09.50 | karihre | tremon: okay, thanks |
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| 22:14.26 | tremon | reboots his nas for the first time in 270 days and prays all disks will survive |
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| 22:16.19 | brong_ | I don't like machines with uptimes over 60 days |
| 22:16.25 | brong_ | probably means there's a missing security fix! |
| 22:16.51 | dvs | brong_: It just depends how often the kernel is updated |
| 22:17.49 | brong_ | dvs, true |
| 22:17.51 | un214 | you mean you DON'T hotpatch your kernel? |
| 22:17.56 | brong_ | god no |
| 22:18.03 | brong_ | I reinstall frequently |
| 22:18.16 | dvs | reinstall? |
| 22:18.40 | calrogman | Hotpatching the kernel sounds like an easy way to get a panic, and corrupt filesystems if done during high load (if, say, a system administrator is an idiot). |
| 22:18.44 | tremon | there aren't that many kernel updates, and even less that affect my running kernel |
| 22:18.51 | imran-uk | but with ksplice you can update kernel and retain uptime? |
| 22:19.05 | ksm | How does ksplice even work |
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| 22:19.11 | brong_ | dvs, reinstall |
| 22:19.16 | brong_ | it takes <10 minutes |
| 22:19.18 | imran-uk | ksm, dunno, just something i heard about |
| 22:19.20 | brong_ | and one command |
| 22:19.22 | calrogman | Hey, wow, I can retain these meaningless numbers! That's awesome! I'll totally risk the stability of my machine for a larger e-peen. |
| 22:19.24 | ksm | I always thought of something similar to ksplice, but it'd just like |
| 22:19.38 | ksm | well I don't know if this is how ksplice works, but this was my idea: |
| 22:19.43 | un214 | it stops all threads but its own in kernel and patches by replacing the function entry point to a new page, to which the new function is copied |
| 22:19.53 | tremon | great, now my nas is spamming syslog because it can't load the ipv6 module |
| 22:20.00 | ksm | load up the new kernel into the memory, restart all the services into the new kernel, kill all the old ones, done. |
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| 22:20.04 | ksm | just like restarting a service |
| 22:20.05 | tremon | ipv6: Unknown symbol sock_queue_err_skb |
| 22:20.34 | un214 | if the kernel image was prepared for it in advance, it wouldn't even have to stop threads |
| 22:20.36 | imran-uk | calrogman, humans are such sympathetic creatures |
| 22:20.52 | calrogman | No we're not. |
| 22:20.59 | brong_ | dvs, seriously - I did a presentation on it a while back |
| 22:21.19 | brong_ | we can shut down, reinstall (valuable data preserved, but OS wiped) and be back in 10 minutes on any server |
| 22:21.27 | calrogman | Okay, show us said presentation. |
| 22:21.28 | brong_ | config should be identical |
| 22:21.38 | brong_ | it's a bit fluffy on the details |
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| 22:21.49 | brong_ | but basically FAI + git + Makefiles |
| 22:21.56 | calrogman | And while you're at it, explain how that would have any benefit whatsoever. |
| 22:21.57 | brong_ | and hit anyone on the head who hand edits things on servers |
| 22:22.12 | brong_ | calrogman: half a million users on <1 sysadmin |
| 22:22.29 | un214 | how do you have <1 sysadmin |
| 22:22.31 | brong_ | no maintenance windows |
| 22:22.34 | brong_ | I do other stuff to |
| 22:22.58 | calrogman | And how is that relevant to reinstalling an OS for shits and giggles? |
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| 22:23.23 | imran-uk | ksm, sounds kind of like that but happens at a more fundamental lkevel so that services don't even need to be restarted (see wikipedia [age) |
| 22:23.30 | dvs | would be scared to replace the kernel without rebooting |
| 22:23.35 | imran-uk | afaict |
| 22:23.44 | calrogman | I don't even trust kexec to get it right, dvs. |
| 22:23.53 | ksm | aargh |
| 22:24.05 | ksm | Why does this happen to me with all kernels >3.2 |
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| 22:24.31 | calrogman | Because "there was a regression, file a bug"? |
| 22:24.37 | ksm | I have a 3.1 and a 2.6 kernel and my load averages are small typically, under 0.2 or so |
| 22:25.06 | ksm | I have tried 2 3.2.2 and now on the 3.4.4 kernel and all of them I have an average >0.6 always |
| 22:25.20 | tremon | wonders where the flash-kernel hook has gone |
| 22:25.24 | ksm | and the cpu is barely being used |
| 22:25.28 | brong_ | calrogman: well - reinstalling rather than trying to maintain uptime of a single machine at all expense |
| 22:26.46 | calrogman | Because doing an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && shutdown -r is too hard, brong_ ? |
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| 22:27.05 | brong_ | calrogman: how many servers do you maintain? |
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| 22:27.33 | brong_ | actually, I do that sometimes too |
| 22:27.49 | brong_ | but if I have to replace hardware, or something has got corrupted |
| 22:28.04 | ksm | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34991499/offscrot/why%20these%20load%20averages.png |
| 22:28.08 | brong_ | or there's a snafu around upgrade order of packages and configuration |
| 22:28.16 | calrogman | If you need to replace hardware, and that warrants a reinstall rather than a reimaging, you've failed. |
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| 22:28.32 | brong_ | so about that presentation ;) |
| 22:28.36 | brong_ | there are three types of data |
| 22:28.40 | brong_ | 1) stuff you wrote yourself |
| 22:28.50 | brong_ | put that shit in version control - it's recreatable, but man it hurts |
| 22:28.51 | calrogman | If something's getting corrupted all the damn time, you need to seriously reconsider the software you're using. |
| 22:29.07 | brong_ | 2) stuff that's someone else's data - back it up, integrity check it. You can never get it back |
| 22:29.16 | brong_ | 3) cached data - you're not the primary copy |
| 22:29.21 | brong_ | disposable |
| 22:29.30 | brong_ | OS installs are cached data |
| 22:29.35 | brong_ | the primary copy is right there in the repository |
| 22:29.46 | brong_ | (Ok, so I cache a copy of the repository for performance) |
| 22:29.53 | tremon | ksm: it can be something as simple as latency scheduling. I've had a machine that had a continuous load average of 0.7 because pulseaudio was trying to be real-time responsive. Killing PA reduced the load to 0.02 |
| 22:30.00 | brong_ | If you reinstall from clean - you KNOW you can recreate it |
| 22:30.16 | brong_ | if you re-image from an evolving image, it will rot |
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| 22:30.34 | brong_ | because you've promoted a cache as if it was valuable data |
| 22:30.43 | brong_ | we cache the scripts that build the host |
| 22:30.46 | un214 | you mean you don't make your images out of stainless steal? |
| 22:30.57 | ksm | tremon: ah |
| 22:30.58 | brong_ | as in - store them in git |
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| 22:31.11 | brong_ | but images of the OS?? |
| 22:31.13 | brong_ | why? |
| 22:31.18 | brong_ | they go stale all the time |
| 22:31.22 | ksm | tremon: why would that affect only my kernels > 3.2 |
| 22:31.23 | calrogman | And what's the typical %uptime of these servers that you're doig reinstalls on all the time? |
| 22:31.37 | brong_ | calrogman: sometimes they creep out to 90 days |
| 22:31.49 | calrogman | I asked for the percent uptime. |
| 22:31.49 | brong_ | but usually there's a reason to do a security upgrade in between |
| 22:31.55 | brong_ | oh, percent? |
| 22:31.58 | brong_ | 99.something |
| 22:32.10 | brong_ | but it doesn't matter if one is down for a bit |
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| 22:32.30 | brong_ | because everything has enough capacity to be without one of its servers |
| 22:32.38 | brong_ | nothing relies on a single machine being up |
| 22:32.42 | calrogman | It matters if you don't administer a vast array of server. |
| 22:32.50 | brong_ | well, yes |
| 22:32.51 | ksm | tremon: so far killing pulseaudio has only made it go up a bit |
| 22:33.04 | tremon | ksm: maybe because of different defaults? Maybe a different scheduler, or different defaults in some time-critical subsystem? I'm not trying to explain (I can only guess), but it may be something very innocent |
| 22:33.04 | brong_ | if you're so constrained for resources that you can't afford to have a single machine down |
| 22:33.10 | brong_ | then you're a disaster waiting to happen |
| 22:33.15 | calrogman | If you've got two servers, for example, and one of them is down for an un-needed reinstall, suddenly that's a single point of failure. |
| 22:33.29 | calrogman | That's not a good situation to be in. |
| 22:33.29 | brong_ | ditto a reboot |
| 22:33.48 | ksm | tremon: I think I compiled with partial preempt, but that was also in my other kernels as well |
| 22:33.50 | brong_ | seriously, more time in the reinstall gets spent sitting waiting for fricking BIOSes to do their thing than in the actual install |
| 22:33.58 | tremon | brong_: I like your employer |
| 22:34.13 | calrogman | He seems very lax about use of company resources, huh tremon? |
| 22:34.14 | Posterdati | hi |
| 22:34.14 | brong_ | tremon: so do I :) |
| 22:34.30 | brong_ | calrogman: I don't like running systems at 99% capacity |
| 22:34.38 | Posterdati | please I've got a problem with wheezy: installing libupnp6 removes all kde packages |
| 22:34.39 | brong_ | so a single unexpected event causes a user visible outage |
| 22:34.45 | brong_ | that's not my idea of a fun time |
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| 22:35.24 | tremon | ksm: You'd need to ask a kernel expert for differences between the kernel versions |
| 22:35.36 | brong_ | so yes - I keep a spare unused blade in each bladecentre that can spin up to replace any failed blade in ... what was it again, 10 minutes |
| 22:36.00 | nkuttler | Posterdati: so don't do it |
| 22:36.10 | brong_ | and I keep spare capacity on our backend storage servers so if we lose one, I can replicate data around and have full redundancy again within a day |
| 22:36.13 | brong_ | that's the goal anyway |
| 22:36.13 | Posterdati | nkuttler: but I need amule :) |
| 22:36.21 | nkuttler | !tell Posterdati about debian-next |
| 22:36.32 | brong_ | 500Gb partitions turn out to be about the hard limit to achieve that with the speed of modern disks |
| 22:36.41 | calrogman | Say, is your employer hiring? |
| 22:36.55 | calrogman | Actually, forget I asked. I might go after your job. |
| 22:37.02 | Posterdati | nkuttler: ah ok, thanks |
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| 22:37.06 | brong_ | http://www.opera.com/company/jobs/ |
| 22:37.14 | brong_ | you're welcome to go for my job |
| 22:37.15 | calrogman | Oh, didn't expect that. |
| 22:37.44 | calrogman | Typical, nothing in the UK. |
| 22:37.48 | brong_ | nah, sorry |
| 22:37.52 | Gnarfoz | why would Opera have jobs in the UK |
| 22:37.56 | nkuttler | !ot |
| 22:37.56 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 22:38.09 | brong_ | we have a couple of people in the UK, but not an office there |
| 22:38.39 | meken | Hi, I am having trouble setting up a simple IP Masquerading scenario. Anyone have any experience with this? |
| 22:38.40 | brong_ | mostly the people who work outside offices have been around for a while and built up the level of trust that a new hire doesn't get |
| 22:38.54 | brong_ | I'm currently in Oslo, but probably back to Melbourne next year |
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| 22:39.19 | brong_ | and hey... the system we have works for me |
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| 22:40.14 | Gnarfoz | so I guess I'll find out if this leap second stuff affects any of my servers in about... 80 minutes? :\ |
| 22:40.58 | korkman | brong_: might i ask what kind of services you run on such a platform? sharded databases, web frontends? |
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| 22:41.24 | brong_ | korkman: the 500Gb stuff (where most of the data is) is Cyrus IMAPd |
| 22:41.30 | brong_ | so email |
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| 22:41.46 | brong_ | it's actually 500Gb of data plus some space on an SSD for high-IO meta |
| 22:41.57 | brong_ | in our current iteration of hardware |
| 22:42.09 | brong_ | older systems still us 10kRPM or 15kRPM SATA for the metadata |
| 22:42.51 | brong_ | the SSD systems are awesome, 10Tb of online email complete with enough CPU and 48Gb of RAM in a US $12K box |
| 22:43.03 | jelly-home | did they actually make 15krpm disks with SATA connectivity? |
| 22:43.14 | brong_ | no, SAS disks |
| 22:43.21 | JyZyXEL | squeeze freeze is today? |
| 22:43.22 | brong_ | but then SATA back from the RAID units |
| 22:43.36 | jelly-home | JyZyXEL: no, wheezy freezy |
| 22:43.51 | jelly-home | is. |
| 22:43.52 | brong_ | the SSD systems have been awesome, but it took me a year of rewriting Cyrus internals to get the most benefit out of htem |
| 22:43.59 | JyZyXEL | oh yeah wheezy of course, silly me |
| 22:44.27 | brong_ | had to get locking to the point where it didn't need to mmap large parts of the slow rust just-in-case |
| 22:46.10 | korkman | brong_: i still have a hard time figuring out how you split cyrus on many servers in an n+1 redundant fashion. you're not using maildir, right? |
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| 22:46.22 | brong_ | and we currently replicate to one local copy for failover and one remote copy (different country) for disaster recovery |
| 22:46.30 | brong_ | korkman: we run 20 cyrus instances per one of these servers |
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| 22:46.38 | brong_ | (20 x 500Gb == 10Tb) |
| 22:46.45 | JyZyXEL | does the two year release cycle give if there are a lot of RC bugs when the time comes? |
| 22:46.58 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: no such thing exists |
| 22:47.10 | brong_ | and they replicate to different machines, so shutting down one doesn't double the load on another |
| 22:47.13 | calrogman | There's no release cycle, stable is released when there are 0 RC bugs. |
| 22:47.55 | korkman | brong_: ah okay so it's mirrored, and when a machine goes down, many other machines must launch an instant asap to fill the gap? |
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| 22:48.04 | brong_ | not quite an instant |
| 22:48.09 | brong_ | master/master replication isn't there yet |
| 22:48.18 | JyZyXEL | that would be the green line in http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ i think? |
| 22:48.21 | brong_ | an unexpected failure means user visible downtime |
| 22:48.37 | calrogman | http://www.schmehl.info/Debian/rc-stats/7.0-wheezy/2012-23 |
| 22:48.48 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: yes |
| 22:48.58 | JyZyXEL | notice how it didn't quite reach 0 when lenny was release |
| 22:49.00 | brong_ | but a planned shutdown - yeah, it just transfers the master IP address to the other machine and does a quick restart of the service at each end |
| 22:49.02 | calrogman | Whoops, my mistake: http://www.schmehl.info/Debian/rc-stats/7.0-wheezy/2012-26 |
| 22:49.14 | brong_ | there's one master IP per instance |
| 22:49.26 | brong_ | again, once we have real master/master this will be even more seamless |
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| 22:49.42 | xzgv | hi, a couple of days i tried to install Debian business card iso, at the end i couldn't connect to the debian servers, is that a problem still? |
| 22:49.43 | Rockj | brong_: hm, do opera hos email? didn't know. :) |
| 22:49.46 | brong_ | I wrote an email to the cyrus-devel list just a few days ago outlining the steps from here to there |
| 22:49.49 | brong_ | Rockj: FastMail.FM |
| 22:49.51 | Rockj | s/hos/host/ |
| 22:49.56 | brong_ | Opera bought us a couple of years back |
| 22:50.00 | brong_ | mail.opera.com |
| 22:50.05 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: correct |
| 22:50.13 | JyZyXEL | whats up with that? |
| 22:50.37 | abrotman | RMs said it was okay .. check the archives |
| 22:50.38 | korkman | yeah it's the whole "opera must build a community" paradigm i guess |
| 22:50.43 | brong_ | something like that |
| 22:50.50 | xzgv | I did a minimal install |
| 22:51.09 | brong_ | obviously I can't talk about all the "where it's going" stuff that's not public |
| 22:51.17 | korkman | brong_: and you're running debian on the blades? |
| 22:51.20 | ksm | Do I compile my kernel for a Pentium Pro, Penium II or Pentium III for a P6200 (Which apparently in the i3/5/7/ family) |
| 22:51.23 | brong_ | korkman: yes |
| 22:51.24 | JyZyXEL | i hope its not them giving in to the whole two year release cycle nonsense :-p |
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| 22:51.36 | Rockj | brong_: aha, I see. You got me a bit off tracked when you said opera and email and lots of servers. Ive seen the old Opera Mini site in Oslo |
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| 22:51.42 | brong_ | on the blades and on the backend servers too, which are standalone 2U machines |
| 22:51.46 | brong_ | Rockj: Mini is on Debian too |
| 22:52.07 | jelly-home | ksm: what are you missing from debian's default kernel(s)? |
| 22:52.10 | brong_ | though they don't do much from Oslo any more |
| 22:52.32 | brong_ | we're colocated with them in Iceland, and they have datacentres all over the place |
| 22:52.36 | brong_ | Mini is an impresive operation |
| 22:52.46 | brong_ | I visited the guys in Sweden who run it a few months back |
| 22:52.48 | ksm | jelly-home: I just want to tweak it right, also > 3.2 kernels are giving me some weird uptimes |
| 22:52.52 | ksm | erm |
| 22:52.59 | ksm | s/uptime/load average/ |
| 22:53.06 | xzgv | i guess there are no problems connecting to the servers, huh? |
| 22:54.05 | jelly-home | ksm: why do you need to "tweak" it? Debian releases have a 3.2.x series kernel, not newer at present time. There's only a newer kernel in experimental |
| 22:54.23 | jelly-home | ksm: which debian release are you using? |
| 22:54.27 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 22:54.28 | ksm | wheezy |
| 22:54.28 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.4-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.20-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.20-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 22:54.41 | ksm | also > 3.2 kernels are giving me some weird load averages |
| 22:54.50 | ksm | So I'm trying to figure that out |
| 22:54.52 | jelly-home | ksm: does that include 3.2? |
| 22:54.57 | ksm | yes |
| 22:55.04 | jelly-home | aight |
| 22:55.05 | ksm | =>3.2 |
| 22:55.50 | ksm | But I'm readin about on wikipedia and I can't seem to find specifically which one the P6200 would fall under |
| 22:55.55 | ksm | *reading |
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| 22:57.30 | ksm | also would setting preemptivness affect it, because I left that at its default, which is some preemptivity, and I'm thinking of switching it off |
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| 22:58.09 | JyZyXEL | themill: was it because of the ponies? |
| 22:59.28 | jelly-home | that typo is unforgivable. |
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| 23:01.19 | ksm | so which architecture should I compile for |
| 23:01.41 | korkman | preferable the one the system runs on? |
| 23:01.55 | jelly-home | ksm: eh, go wild and build yourself a 64bit kernel! |
| 23:02.05 | ksm | with 32 bit libraries? |
| 23:02.23 | jelly-home | kernel uses no outside libs dude |
| 23:02.35 | ksm | My install is 32bit |
| 23:02.53 | jelly-home | so's mine, and I still use debian's 3.2.0-2-amd64 kernel |
| 23:03.41 | ksm | I think I'll stick with picking one of the three Pentium-x options listed |
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| 23:04.18 | korkman | (64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace *may* cause problems when less tested userspace daemons talk with less tested kernel modules) |
| 23:04.40 | jelly-home | korkman: like which one? |
| 23:05.10 | korkman | pluto with ipsec, which failed for me a long time ago (etch or so) |
| 23:05.22 | jelly-home | he's using wheezy. I haven't seen issues with 64bit kernel this year. |
| 23:05.25 | korkman | vdr with my dvb-s2 card last weeh |
| 23:05.28 | korkman | last week |
| 23:06.10 | korkman | experimental multimedia tree, granted, but still ... they do swap bytes occasionally |
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| 23:09.08 | brong_ | korkman: oh - I have a story about that ;) |
| 23:09.18 | brong_ | 64 bit kernel and 32 bit userspace days |
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| 23:09.52 | brong_ | we found a bug in mmap, where it could return a small set of zero bytes just past a page boundary if you did a read across the boundary |
| 23:09.53 | jelly-home | ignoring the silly tight-kernel-bound stuff like vbox |
| 23:10.04 | brong_ | it was in the 64 bit ASM code |
| 23:10.24 | brong_ | I spent a fricking week watching random corruptions occur in our Cyrus databases |
| 23:10.38 | korkman | oh my |
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| 23:11.52 | brong_ | yeah, that was fun |
| 23:11.55 | brong_ | we run Debian |
| 23:12.00 | brong_ | but lots of custom packages on top |
| 23:12.05 | brong_ | we apply something like 8 patches to postfix |
| 23:12.12 | brong_ | and we patch nginx as well |
| 23:12.15 | brong_ | even fricking apache-mod_perl |
| 23:12.20 | brong_ | I'm a bit bitter about that one |
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| 23:13.31 | korkman | heh i hope your patches are applied to upstream, maintenance of those must be hell |
| 23:13.43 | korkman | unless they're really small |
| 23:13.45 | brong_ | no, if they were, I wouldn't be patching |
| 23:13.52 | brong_ | we push what we can upstream |
| 23:14.04 | brong_ | I've been dragged to offtopic - you over there? |
| 23:14.20 | korkman | joining |
| 23:14.22 | brong_ | cool |
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| 23:22.28 | stew | JyZyXEL: the two year cycle that you are thinking of is the time to freeze, not the time to release. the release time is still governed by the RC bug count |
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| 23:23.38 | JyZyXEL | ohh i see |
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| 23:23.55 | stew | JyZyXEL: the RC bug count doesn't necessarily hit zero. some bugs get tagged as wheezy-ignore or squeeze-ignore or whatever. and when we are really close we will schedule it for a weekend when all the right people are free. and then we are going to release unless something major is discovered, but we'll schedule it when there are a handful of bugs left not knowing if they'll be fixed on time |
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| 23:34.03 | chocotaco | Heym what's the deal with the leap second today? |
| 23:34.10 | chocotaco | *Hey, |
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| 23:34.14 | abrotman | it'll be gone tomorrow |
| 23:34.30 | chocotaco | I have heard it is going around crashing servers; is that a thing or is it just scaremongering |
| 23:34.37 | themill | chocotaco: depending on your TZ, you either get a second more sleep or a second more drinking time. Your choice. |
| 23:34.41 | abrotman | chocotaco: uname -r ? |
| 23:34.45 | brong_ | chocotaco: my lack of sleep says, it's real |
| 23:34.57 | brong_ | I got paged every 2 hours, on average, with dead machines |
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| 23:35.06 | chocotaco | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 23:35.07 | brong_ | until we figured out what's causing it |
| 23:35.15 | brong_ | I don't run anything that old |
| 23:35.25 | brong_ | but 2.6.26 is supposed to be the last safe one |
| 23:35.26 | abrotman | chocotaco: and what timezone are you in ? |
| 23:35.27 | chocotaco | it is debian stable |
| 23:35.28 | brong_ | according to sources |
| 23:35.40 | brong_ | abrotman: timezone doesn't matter |
| 23:35.48 | brong_ | ntpd inserts the adjtimex early |
| 23:35.51 | chocotaco | pacific, UTC-8 |
| 23:35.56 | brong_ | my servers are all New York |
| 23:36.08 | brong_ | and they had issues since 3:30am Oslo time |
| 23:36.23 | abrotman | brong_: it was more if it had already passed or not .. |
| 23:36.35 | chocotaco | so should I turn off ntpd? |
| 23:36.36 | abrotman | chocotaco: and how many servers do you believe might be affected ? |
| 23:36.48 | themill | abrotman: the leap second is also independent of TZ ;) |
| 23:36.49 | chocotaco | well I have about 9 servers, all debian.... |
| 23:37.01 | chocotaco | most are debian stable, a couple are still lenny |
| 23:37.15 | abrotman | themill: oh duh .. it applies based on their clock .. not mine .. |
| 23:37.16 | brong_ | chocotaco: dpeends on the load |
| 23:37.29 | chocotaco | how dose the load affect them? |
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| 23:37.33 | chocotaco | *does |
| 23:37.34 | abrotman | themill: apparently i need to stop being on vacation :) |
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| 23:37.38 | brong_ | I think it's a race |
| 23:38.11 | chocotaco | I read that if adjtimex -p shows flag 16 then I'm already hosed unless I reboot |
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| 23:38.13 | chocotaco | is it true? |
| 23:38.17 | chocotaco | because it does :P |
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| 23:39.05 | dvs | 20 minutes to the end of the world! The Mayans were right!! ;-P |
| 23:39.16 | chocotaco | well if my servers crash at least I have remote hard reboot - I will just tell my customers that a few minutes' downtime is a small price to pay for the extra second of sleep they will get tonight! |
| 23:39.17 | brong_ | :) |
| 23:39.24 | brong_ | sounds good to me! |
| 23:39.28 | brong_ | I haven't been paged yet |
| 23:40.03 | Gnarfoz | machines that don't show a leap second for tonight in 'zdump -v right/UTC' should be fine, right? |
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| 23:41.01 | brong_ | depends if you're running ntp |
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| 23:41.34 | Gnarfoz | brong_: hm, it does? then I guess I haven't really understood the problem |
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| 23:42.06 | brong_ | the problem is ntpd fiddling fields in the kernel and causing a deadlock if that clashes with another operation |
| 23:42.11 | brong_ | hence it's race dependent |
| 23:42.14 | Gnarfoz | well, without ntp, even with the leap second showing up in there, nothing would happen, right? |
| 23:42.19 | brong_ | a lightly loaded server probably won't notice |
| 23:42.38 | simonlnu | adds one to the list |
| 23:43.18 | Gnarfoz | I guess I'll see in about 18 minutes |
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| 23:43.22 | Gnarfoz | ;-o |
| 23:43.45 | brong_ | I don't see the leap second on machines which I know have already crashed |
| 23:43.47 | microcolonel | why can't I kill kacpid? |
| 23:43.54 | brong_ | so I vote: yes, it could still be a problem |
| 23:44.04 | Gnarfoz | huh |
| 23:44.08 | Gnarfoz | hm. |
| 23:44.23 | Gnarfoz | and the solution is: kernel update; and the workaround: disable ntp? |
| 23:44.31 | jelly-home | microcolonel: it's a kernel thread. If it's eating lots of cpu, it's just an indication something _else_ is wrong. |
| 23:44.33 | brong_ | yep |
| 23:44.42 | Gnarfoz | that's... not a great deal of choices, hehe |
| 23:44.44 | microcolonel | ahh |
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| 23:44.50 | microcolonel | why is it running in the first place? |
| 23:44.52 | brong_ | Gnarfoz: there's a third one |
| 23:44.56 | brong_ | shut down and start up tomorrow ;) |
| 23:44.57 | microcolonel | this machine doesn't support ACPI |
| 23:45.02 | microcolonel | AFAIK |
| 23:45.04 | Gnarfoz | really? how'd that help? |
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| 23:45.16 | jelly-home | Gnarfoz: disable ntp; disable the leap second if already scheduled using adjtimex; reenable ntp after midnight UTC |
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| 23:46.13 | linbox | is kde 4.8.2 available for debian? |
| 23:46.19 | jelly-home | ,versions kde |
| 23:46.20 | judd | Package: kde on i386 -- lenny: 5:48; squeeze: 5:66 |
| 23:46.23 | jelly-home | eh. |
| 23:46.27 | dvs | ha |
| 23:46.35 | dvs | ,v kdebase |
| 23:46.36 | judd | Package: kdebase on i386 -- lenny: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; lenny-security: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; squeeze: 5:66 |
| 23:46.41 | Gnarfoz | I see, and it wont try to do it again after midnight since it'll just slew the difference in the normal way? |
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| 23:46.47 | themill | linbox: kde 4.8.4 is in wheezy |
| 23:46.55 | jelly-home | dvs: come ride the failboat |
| 23:47.10 | dvs | takes a life preserver |
| 23:47.44 | linbox | i just installed debian 6.0.5 how can I upgrade to kde 4.8.4 |
| 23:48.13 | themill | linbox: you would need to upgrade to wheezy. /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 23:48.37 | pparadis | linbox: short answer, you can't using the normal mechanisms, unless you do what themill just suggested. |
| 23:52.11 | Ephexeve | Hey guys, qustion, I managed to get pulse working, everything fine. Now I have one problem, when I go to the settings of the sounds effects of the system, and I select defaults, the music running stops, and I have to go and set sound to 5.1 again, any clue? |
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| 23:53.33 | Gnarfoz | great, no adjtimex for rhel6/centos6 |
| 23:53.34 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:54.43 | linbox | does anybody know the direct linbk to download kde 4.8.4 wheezy? |
| 23:54.58 | jelly-home | Gnarfoz: huh? adjtimex-1.20-2.1 |
| 23:55.03 | Ephexeve | Actually another problem, if I play music in banshee and then go to youtube the music from banshee stops, any idea? |
| 23:55.35 | jelly-home | Gnarfoz: installed an hour ago on centos 6 |
| 23:56.47 | themill | linbox: if you've already got squeeze installed, then just upgrade to wheezy. There's no dedicated installation media for wheezy that will install kde 4.8.4 any easier than upgrading. |
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| 23:57.14 | Gnarfoz | jelly-home: Warning: No matches found for: adjtimex |
| 23:57.21 | Gnarfoz | is it 32b only or something? |
| 23:57.26 | korkman | Ephexeve: mh, your pulseaudio still isn't on track, is it? |
| 23:57.32 | pparadis | linbox: if you're suggesting that you intend to install wheezy packages on squeeze, please don't try that. |
| 23:57.38 | Gnarfoz | or in centosplus... must be in some repo I don't have enabled |
| 23:57.52 | Ephexeve | korkman: totally not |
| 23:58.02 | pparadis | linbox: if that's the case, that's why we have backports (ask dpkg about it), but you cannot simply install packages from one release on another. |
| 23:58.20 | Ephexeve | korkman: Evething worked fine, like you told me, I can now select 5.1 and etc. But I can use it two sounds at the same time (youtube and banshee) |
| 23:58.20 | pparadis | linbox: also, the version of kde you want is not in backports, so you will need to upgrade to wheezy. |
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| 23:58.54 | jelly-home | Gnarfoz: mm, nope. Jun 30 23:45:20 Installed: adjtimex-1.20-2.1.x86_64 |
| 23:59.07 | Gnarfoz | 'yum info' on that? |
| 23:59.08 | korkman | Ephexeve: sounds like the flash implementation is using pasuspend and plays audio via alsa |
| 23:59.14 | Gnarfoz | should show what repo it's from |
| 23:59.21 | korkman | Ephexeve: update flash |
| 23:59.47 | Gnarfoz | well, it's too late now, anyway :D |
| 23:59.55 | jelly-home | Gnarfoz: eh, only says "Repo : installed" now |
| 23:59.58 | *** join/#debian Skunnyk (~Skunnyk@galileo.blizzart.net) |
